[Senate Hearing 119-273]
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S. Hrg. 119-273
NOMINATION TO THE NATIONAL AERONAUTICS
AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION AND THE
FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
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UNITED STATES SENATE
ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
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SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION
ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS
FIRST SESSION
TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota MARIA CANTWELL, Washington,
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi Ranking
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JERRY MORAN, Kansas BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee GARY PETERS, Michigan
TODD YOUNG, Indiana TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
TED BUDD, North Carolina TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JOHN CURTIS, Utah BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
TIM SHEEHY, Montana JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia ANDY KIM, New Jersey
CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
C O N T E N T S
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Page
Hearing held on April 9, 2025.................................... 1
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................ 1
Statement of Senator Cantwell.................................... 3
Letter dated March 4, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Mike Moses, President, Virgin Galactic....... 92
Letter dated March 12, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Kay Ivey, Governor, State of Alabama......... 94
Letter dated April 7, 2024 to Senator Ted Cruz and Senator
Maria Cantwell from Darren Pleasnce, President and CEO,
Aircaft Owners and Pilots Association (AOPA)............... 95
Letter dated April 7, 2025 to Ranking Member Chris Van Hollen
and Senator Angela Alsobrooks from Robert D. Braun, Head,
Space Exploration Sector, Johns Hopkins Applied Physics
Laboratory................................................. 96
Letter to Hon. John Thune, Hon. Chuck Schumer, Hon. Ted Cruz
and Hon. Maria Cantwell from Zak Kukoff, Chair, Tech
Practice, Lewis-Burke Associates; Devin Bryant, Space Lead,
Lewis-Burke Associates; David Cowan, Managing Partner,
Bessemer Venture Partners; Delian Asparouhov, Co-Founder
and President, Varda Space Industries; Partner, Founders
Fund; Blake Scholl, Founder and CEO, Boom Aerospace; John
Gedmark, Founder and CEO, Astranis; Chris Power, CEO,
Hadrian; Austin Bishop, CEO, New American Industrial
Alliance; Patrick Blumenthal, Founder, Anomaly Fund; Adam
Grosser, Chairman, UP Partners; Saurav Shroff, Co-Founder,
Starpath; Xander Oltmann, General Partner, Commodity
Capital; Max Haot, CEO, Vast Space; Jonathan Lacoste,
General Partner, Space VC; Andy Lapsa, Founder and CEO,
Stoke Space; Jason Kim, CEO, Firefly Aerospace; AJ Piplica,
Founder and CEO, Hermeus; Bradley Cheetham, CEO, Advanced
Space; Jake Poliskin, Founding Partner, Shorewind Capital;
Yash Shevde, Founder, Ursa Bio; Solange Massa, CEO,
Ecoatoms; Casey Handmer, Founder, Terraform Industries;
James Barlia, Executive Director, Station DC; Ashley
Pilipiszyn, Founder and CEO, BESXAR........................ 97
Letter dated March 21, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Dave Cavossa, President, Commercial Space
Federation................................................. 99
Letter dated March 14, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from former astronauts: Robert Cabana, Leroy
Chiao, Ken Cockrell, Cady Coleman, Drew Feustel, Jack
Fischer, Mike Foreman, Ron Garan, John Grunsfeld,Ken Ham,
Brent Jett, Scott Kelly, Shane Kimbrough, Michael Lopez-
Alegria, Ed Lu, Leland Melvin, Dottie Metcalf-Lindenburger,
Karen Nyberg, Steve Oswald, William Readdy, Garrett
Reisman, Stephen Robinson, Rusty Schweickart. Nicole Stott,
Steven Swanson, Jim Voss, Peggy Whitson, and George Zamka.. 101
Letter dated March 4, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Republican Governors: Governor Bill Lee,
State of Tennessee; Governor Sarah Sanders, State of
Arkansas; Governor Ron DeSantis, State of Florida; Governor
Brian Kemp, State of Georgia; Governor Mike Kehoe, State of
Missouri; Governor Kevin Stitt, State of Oklahoma and
Governor Greg Abbott, State of Texas....................... 102
Letter dated April 8, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Tim F. Lussier, M.A.--San Antonio, Texas--
United States of America--Planet Earth..................... 104
Letter dated March 27, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Ed Bolen, President and CEO, National
Business Aviation Association.............................. 105
Letter dated April 9, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Will Marshall, Co-Founder and Chief Executive
Officer, Planet Labs PBC and Robbie Schingler, Co-Founder
and Chief Strategy Officer, Planet Labs PBC................ 107
Letter dated February 20, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon.
Maria Cantwell from Bill Woolf, CEO, President and Founder,
Space Force Association, Colonel, USAF (Ret.).............. 109
Letter dated April 7, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Michael K. Powell, President and CEO, NCTA--
The Internet & Television Association...................... 110
Letter dated April 8, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Jonathan Spalter, President and Chief
Executive Officer, USTelecom--The Broadband Association.... 111
Letter dated March 20, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Grant Spellmeyer, President and CEO,
America's Communication Association........................ 112
Letter dated February 28, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon.
Maria Cantwell from James Erwin, Executive Director,
Digital Liberty............................................ 113
Letter dated February 26, 2025 to Hon. John Thune, Hon. Chuck
Schumer, Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria Cantwell from Nathan
Leamer, Executive Director, Digital First Project; Harold
Furchtgott-Roth, Senior Fellow and Director, Center for the
Economics of the Internet, Hudson Institute; Grover
Norquist, President, Americans For Tax Reform; Evan
Swarztrauber, Senior Fellow, Foundation For American
Innovation; Tom Hebert, Executive Director, Open
Competition Center; James Erwin, Executive Director,
Digital Liberty; Mike O'Rielly, Senior Fellow, Free State
Foundation; David Williams, President, Taxpayers Protection
Alliance; Ashley Baker, Executive Director, Committee for
Justice; Yael Ossowski, Deputy Director, Consumer Choice
Center; Gerard Scimeca, Chairman, Consumer Action for a
Strong Economy; Jeff Mazzella, President, Center For
Individual Freedom......................................... 115
Letter dated March 4, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from ACT | The App Association, Alliance for
Telecommunications Industry Solutions, CEDIA, Consumer
Technology Association, CTIA--The Wireless Association, GPS
Innovation Alliance, INCOMPAS, Internet Infrastructure
Coalition, Information Technology Industry Council,
Institute for Education, USTelecom, TechNet, Wireless
Infrastructure Association and XR Association.............. 117
Letter dated April 9, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Morgan Reed, President, ACT | The App
Association................................................ 119
Letter dated April 2, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from Fire Chief Josh Waldo, CFO, EFO IAFC
President and Board Chair 2024-2025........................ 120
Letter dated April 8, 2025 to Hon. Ted Cruz and Hon. Maria
Cantwell from David Zumwalt, President and CEO, WISPA--
Broadband Without Boundaries............................... 121
Statement of Senator Wicker...................................... 5
Statement of Senator Sheehy...................................... 7
Statement of Senator Kim......................................... 59
Statement of Senator Fischer..................................... 61
Statement of Senator Klobuchar................................... 63
Statement of Senator Moran....................................... 65
Statement of Senator Peters...................................... 67
Statement of Senator Blackburn................................... 69
Statement of Senator Lujan....................................... 71
Statement of Senator Sullivan.................................... 73
Statement of Senator Blunt Rochester............................. 75
Statement of Senator Young....................................... 76
Statement of Senator Duckworth................................... 78
Statement of Senator Moreno...................................... 80
Statement of Senator Markey...................................... 82
Witnesses
Jared Isaacman, Nominee to be Administrator, National Aeronautics
and Space Administration....................................... 8
Prepared statement........................................... 10
Biographical information..................................... 12
Olivia Trusty, Nominee to be a Member, Federal Communications
Commission..................................................... 45
Prepared statement........................................... 47
Biographical information..................................... 47
Appendix
Response to written questions submitted to Jared Isaacman by:
Hon. Ted Cruz................................................ 123
Hon. Roger Wicker............................................ 127
Hon. John Curtis............................................. 127
Hon. Shelley Moore Capito.................................... 128
Hon. Maria Cantwell.......................................... 128
Hon. Brian Schatz............................................ 137
Hon. Edward Markey........................................... 138
Hon. Gary Peters............................................. 140
Hon. Tammy Baldwin........................................... 142
Hon. Jacky Rosen............................................. 143
Hon. Ben Ray Lujan........................................... 145
Hon. John Hickenlooper....................................... 146
Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester.................................... 148
Response to written questions submitted to Olivia Trusty by:
Hon. Ted Cruz................................................ 148
Hon. Dan Sullivan............................................ 149
Hon. Marsha Blackburn........................................ 149
Hon. Todd Young.............................................. 150
Hon. John Curtis............................................. 151
Hon. Shelley Moore Capito.................................... 151
Hon. Maria Cantwell.......................................... 152
Hon. Amy Klobuchar........................................... 159
Hon. Brian Schatz............................................ 159
Hon. Edward Markey........................................... 160
Hon. Gary Peters............................................. 161
Hon. Tammy Baldwin........................................... 162
Hon. Tammy Duckworth......................................... 163
Hon. Jacky Rosen............................................. 163
Hon. Ben Ray Lujan........................................... 165
Hon. John Hickenlooper....................................... 166
Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester.................................... 168
NOMINATION TO THE
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE
ADMINISTRATION AND THE FEDERAL
COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 9, 2025
U.S. Senate,
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
Washington, DC.
The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:25 a.m., in
room SR-253, Senate Russell Office Building, Hon. Ted Cruz,
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
Present: Senators Cruz, Wicker, Fischer, Moran, Sullivan,
Blackburn, Young, Budd, Schmitt, Curtis, Moreno, Sheehy,
Capito, Lummis, Cantwell, Klobuchar, Markey, Peters, Baldwin,
Duckworth, Rosen, Lujan, Hickenlooper, Kim, and Blunt
Rochester.
OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ,
U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS
The Chairman. Today, we will hear from Jared Isaacman, who
has been nominated to lead the National Aeronautics and Space
Administration, NASA; and from Olivia Trusty, who has been
nominated to the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC.
NASA has always been at the forefront of American
leadership. In 1969, that meant putting a man on the Moon,
today, it means returning there; this time to stay.
Our nominee, Jared Isaacman, has been active in the
commercialization of space exploration. In 2021, Mr. Isaacman
commanded the first all-civilian spaceflight, Inspiration4.
In 2024, he flew his second commercial mission, going
further into space than any other manned mission since Apollo
17. He brings a unique perspective to the challenges facing
NASA and the space industry.
Today, NASA is at a crossroads. The explosive growth of the
commercial space sector, from hardware manufacturers to space
tourism ventures, has transformed the celestial and economic
landscape. Space is no longer the exclusive domain of sovereign
nations and a handful of legacy defense contractors. The
democratization of space has spurred growth, reduced launch and
satellite costs, and fostered the curiosity of the next
generation.
At the same time, the future of the final frontier has
never been more uncertain. In military terms, space is the
ultimate high ground. A nation that dominates in space can
deprive others, not only of intelligence capabilities, but
modern conveniences like GPS and satellite internet. And make
no mistake; the Chinese Communist Party has been explicit in
its desire to dominate space, putting a fully functional space
station in low Earth orbit and robotic rovers on the far side
of the Moon.
We are not headed for the next space race. It is already
here. President Trump alluded to this race in his inaugural
address when he envisioned American astronauts on Mars. I
strongly support the President's vision. In fact, my 2017 NASA
Authorization Act was one of the very first pieces of
legislation President Trump signed in his first term, and it
explicitly enshrined this goal in law.
But the pursuit of the next horizon cannot mean abandoning
American dominance where it is already established. The
International Space Station has been continuously manned for
more than 20 years, serving as a hub for research and testing
together with our international partners in space exploration.
While we will eventually have to retire the ISS, before that
happens, we must put the necessary systems in place to support
and command American astronauts continually in low Earth orbit.
We cannot surrender low Earth orbit to the Chinese or to the
Russians. Likewise, the Artemis mission, launched during
President Trump's first term, is set to return American
astronauts to the Moon and establish a sustained human presence
there.
Joining us in the audience today, as we heard earlier this
morning, are the four Artemis II astronauts: Reid Wiseman,
Victor Glover, Christina Koch, and Jeremy Hansen.
[Applause.]
The Chairman. In the next year, they will fly to and orbit
the Moon, setting the course for Artemis III's return to the
lunar surface in 2027. The Artemis mission and the entire Moon
to Mars program, which have enjoyed consistent bipartisan
support, serve as a stepping stone to landing American
astronauts on Mars. In fact, this stepping-stone approach is
explicitly in the law as enacted by Congress. We must stay the
course.
An extreme shift in priorities at this stage would almost
certainly mean a red Moon, ceding ground to China for
generations to come. I am hard-pressed to think of a more
catastrophic mistake we could make in space than saying to
Communist China: The Moon is yours, America will not lead.
So I look forward to hearing from Mr. Isaacman about his
goals for NASA, his commitment to Artemis, how he intends to
refocus and reinvigorate the Agency in its core mission, and
how he will ensure America continues to lead the world in space
exploration.
Let me now turn to the Federal Communications Commission,
which faces its own set of challenges. The Agency's Universal
Service Fund was recently challenged in the Supreme Court. Its
Broadcast Ownership Rules are ill-adapted to the modern media
environment. And most significantly, in March 2023, the FCC
lost its authority to conduct Spectrum auctions for the first
time ever. This ongoing lapse in auction authority has cost
jobs and has weakened America's global standing.
Increasing the amount of Spectrum available for commercial
use will secure our preeminence in telecommunications and will
unlock billions of dollars for domestic investment, creating
hundreds of thousands of jobs.
Olivia Trusty has nearly 20 years of relevant experience in
telecommunications. She is currently a staff member at the
Armed Services Committee, which is chaired by our colleague,
Senator Wicker, who will be introducing her this morning. Ms.
Trusty has also worked as a policy director here at the
Commerce Committee, giving her well-rounded views of the
interests of both the Department of Defense and the commercial
industry when it comes to mid-band spectrum. I am confident
that Ms. Trusty will be an asset at the FCC, where she will
champion a Spectrum pipeline, protect free speech, and ensure
access to fast and affordable Internet.
I look forward to hearing from both of today's nominees and
learning how they hope to advance American greatness within
their institutions.
I now turn to Ranking Member Cantwell for her opening
remarks.
STATEMENT OF HON. MARIA CANTWELL,
U.S. SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON
Senator Cantwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And good morning
to our two nominees: Mr. Isaacman, Ms. Trusty, congratulations
on this nomination. Mr. Isaacman, obviously for NASA, and Ms.
Trusty for the Federal Communications Agency.
First, Mr. Isaacman, nominee for the Administrator of NASA,
as my colleague was just saying, the space race is heating up.
You will have a critical task of delivering mission-critical,
on-time, and on-budget challenges for the United States of
America over the next 4 years to make sure that we do not lose
in that space race. This includes successful execution on the
Artemis program, which will take the United States back to the
Moon and ultimately the goal of getting to Mars.
The NASA Authorization Bill, which Senator Cruz and I co-
sponsored, strongly backs the Artemis program. It includes a
lunar lander redundancy, NASA's Space Launch SLS system, and
critical to America's leadership in space, getting Americans
back to the Moon.
The State of Washington has long been a home to aviation,
but now, with over 40 companies across the State of Washington
producing space-related products, we have over 2,000 employees
working just on the Artemis program. So we're invested. These
companies supply components for the Gateway Space Station, the
Orion crew capsule, the two crewed lunar landers, the SLS heavy
lift rocket, and its ground system.
Beyond space exploration, NASA is also one of the world's
top R&D organizations. We had a chance to talk about that in my
office, about NASA's discoveries and science that are helping
us with our aerospace industry overall. NASA scientists and
engineers provide the crucial evidence and information to both
government and industry on issues like AI, quantum, advanced
aerospace materials, and next-generation manufacturing.
So I know a consortium in my state, standing up a tech hub,
has been an applicant that NASA has been very supportive of.
I do have concerns as we move forward about reports in the
press about where the administration will come down on
investments. I hope we can talk about this today and clarify
your position as it relates to these priorities for our Nation.
For example, in March of--last month, The Wall Street Journal
reported that the Trump administration was considering major
changes to the Artemis program. You, too, have also made past
statements about changes to the program. And if NASA does
terminate the SLS and relies only on commercial rockets, such
as SpaceX and Blue Origin, New Glenn, experts say Americans
will not get to the Moon before the end of the decade, so a lot
of scientific analysis resting on your shoulders, and then the
budget capabilities to convince our colleagues to make these
investments.
Like the Chairman, I want to win the race. I want to make
sure that China does not beat us to Mars. And I hope that even
with this recent announcement of theirs, that we beat them to
the Moon. I strongly believe that safety and resiliency, built
through redundancy and innovation through competition is a key.
So I would like to hear your views on that this morning.
We are also seeing the administration, and DOGE
specifically, cancel research grants to fund science agency and
lay off highly skilled technical experts across the Federal
Government. According to the news reports, NASA has confirmed
an announcement by DOGE that up to $420 million in agency
contracts have been canceled. So this is of concern, sorting
out how this cancellation impacts many different organizations.
Meanwhile, tomorrow is the last day of work for several top
NASA advisors, including the chief economist, the chief
scientist, and the chief technologist, their positions were
eliminated because of the DOGE agenda. Reports indicate that
the Fiscal Year 2026 budget request might slash NASA's science
funding by half.
So Mr. Isaacman, all of these are in the news, and we will
want to understand your commitment to these issues, or
understanding your strategy about how you see us making these
commitments to invest in science for the future.
Now to Ms. Trusty; certainly welcome to you and your family
who is here. I think you definitely outnumber the astronauts in
the room, which is, we very much appreciate that.
[Applause.]
Senator Cantwell. It is good to have that support, and your
nomination comes at a critical time for the FCC. We want to
have a communications system that is admired by the world, and
we know that you are no stranger to this issue, working very
diligently for Senator Wicker, both here on this committee and
now on the Armed Services Committee.
The FCC plays a vital role in Spectrum policy management
and commercial airwaves, and I have long advocated, as I said
in my earlier statement, for an evidence-based system. During
the first Trump administration, the rush to auction, I think,
raised some concerns. Most notably, they sold the C-band
without proper FAA coordination about the impacts of aircraft
altimeters creating an unnecessary problem that almost caused
flights to be grounded, and slowed down the implementation of
5G.
So I hope we will hear about that issue, how you see us
getting a more balanced approach in communication. Because of
the FCC's influence over some of our most important
institutions, including the media, and the internet, and
providers, the FCC is an independent agency not subject to
direct Presidential control, but this tradition is under
attack.
The Trump administration is seeking to bring independent
agencies, like the FCC, under the President's direct control.
Recently, the President fired two Democratic commissioners at
the independent Federal Trade Commission without cause. So let
me be clear, removing independent commissioners based on their
party affiliations sets a dangerous precedent.
I expect this administration will maintain a full FCC staff
with five commissioners, including two Democrats, and
meanwhile, the Trump administration FCC Chair has launched a
series of investigations into media companies that the
President doesn't like, so I was very happy to see this recent
decision on holding up the AP, very important to have a very,
very competitive landscape when it comes to media and news
production.
The FCC should return to its longstanding role as a
neutral, independent regulator, and so look forward to asking
you questions about that as well today. But again,
congratulations on your nomination.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. Thank you. And in a moment I will recognize
Senator Wicker. But I do want to note in addition to the four
Artemis II astronauts who are here, we actually have a total of
ten astronauts in the room. We have had six more. We have the
astronauts of Polaris Dawn: Scott Poteet, Sarah Gillis, and
Anna Menon; and we have the astronauts of Inspiration4:, Hayley
Arceneaux, Chris Sembroski, and Dr. Sian Proctor. So to the six
of you as well, thank you for your service, and welcome.
[Applause.]
The Chairman. And I have to say, anytime you have ten
astronauts in the room, that this may be the most badass
assemblage at a Commerce Hearing that I have seen.
And with that, I recognize Senator Wicker to make an
introduction.
STATEMENT OF HON. ROGER WICKER,
U.S. SENATOR FROM MISSISSIPPI
Senator Wicker. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. And yes,
thank you for introducing all of our astronauts, and as you can
see, Senator Fischer and I engaged in a little hero worship
before you hit the gavel and started this.
But I am absolutely delighted to introduce and recommend to
the Committee and to the Senate, Olivia Trusty as the next
member of the FCC.
I am unqualified, actually, to tell what a great nominee
she is. And also, I hope there is some work being done back at
my office. We have a number of staffers who slipped away, and I
think there are probably a number of people watching on the
telephone. But I am profoundly appreciative for this honor, and
appreciative to President Trump for making this nomination.
I frankly cannot conceive of a more qualified nominee.
Oliver Trusty performs work at the highest level of excellence
and she does it for the right reasons, and for 7 years now I
have been the beneficiary of her expertise, but frankly this
Committee, and the Armed Services Committee, and Full Senate
have also been the beneficiary of her expertise.
When I became Chairman of the Commerce Committee, I was
fortunate that Olivia agreed to join my committee staff. A few
years later, I became a Ranking Member of the Armed Services
Committee and I knew there was one member of this committee
staff that I wanted to bring over to handle her portfolio
there.
Olivia Trusty has helped all of us advance initiatives that
made America more connected and more secure, initiatives that
fall squarely within the Federal Communication Commission's
jurisdiction. On technology party, she has helped us pass
legislation to improve maps. She has worked to ensure broadband
funds are directed where they are most needed and where
Congress intended them to be.
She has brought us closer to getting more Americans
connected to high-speed internet. And of course we are not
quite where we need to be. I think she will help us in this new
position get there quicker.
Her work has contributed to national security. She was
instrumental in advancing legislation to free our domestic
networks from communications equipment manufactured by foreign
adversaries.
She has been a leader on Spectrum policy, an area that
bridges both technology and national security. She has
collaborated with members and staff across the Commerce and
Armed Services Committees to find common ground between
commercial and Federal interest. Olivia Trusty wants to help
our country maintain our leadership without risking national
security, and she has worked to make that happen.
I could go on and on, but Olivia does like brevity. She
chooses her words carefully and concisely. Let me just say she
plays chess, not checkers. She sees around the corners. She
shoots straight and she will shoot straight with members of
this committee and the Senate. She uses common sense and
adherence to the law, and she will do so as a commissioner.
On a personal basis, she is serious about her faith. She is
an NCAA gymnast at UNC Chapel Hill. She is a Mormon Republican
from Maryland, for heaven's sake.
[Applause.]
Senator Wicker. And those of us who know her know that she
will do a magnificent job. And actually we are fortunate that
she has chosen to work in the public sector for the taxpayers,
and I could not give a more resounding endorsement to her
nomination.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. Well, I will say that it is very impressive,
particularly that she plays chess, and not checkers and shoots
straight, I will say shooting is a novel strategy in chess, but
whatever works and gives you the checkmate. There is more than
one way to defeat the king.
And with that, I recognize the junior senator from Montana,
Senator Sheehy, to introduce Mr. Isaacman.
STATEMENT OF HON. TIM SHEEHY,
U.S. SENATOR FROM MONTANA
Senator Sheehy. You had to put ``Junior.'' in front of it,
didn't you, Ted?
[Applause.]
Senator Sheehy. For nearly 70 years the United States----
The Chairman. I am still the junior senator from Texas;
this place, that could stick around a long time.
Senator Cantwell. I am the longest-serving junior member.
[Laughter.]
Senator Cantwell. So yes, 24 years you could still be the
junior member.
[Laughter.]
Senator Cantwell. I wear it with a badge of honor.
[Laughing]
Senator Sheehy. Well, thank you, Chairman and Ranking
Member. For nearly 70 years, the United States has been at the
forefront of space exploration. President Trump knows how
critical it is for our country to lead the way yet again as our
space program aims to reach new heights and that is why he
chose exactly the right man for the job, Jared Isaacman.
I have personally known Jared for several years sharing an
aviation community in Montana and cooperating with him on
improving the education experience for our next generation of
explorers, astronauts, engineers, and pilots who attend Space
Camp at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center in Huntsville,
Alabama.
Of note, both Jared and I attended Space Camp, an arduous
5-day program for small children, and I would say it lit a
spark in both of us to chase the dream of aviation and
aerospace. We both dreamed of being astronauts as children. The
difference is Jared actually is one, whereas I had to settle
for the decidedly less cool title of Senator.
America has been the leader of global space travel for
generations, pushing the boundaries of science and testing
limits of human endurance and intellect. All Americans should
be deeply proud of the incredible accomplishments of heroes
like Alan Shepard, John Glenn, Neil Armstrong, Jim Lovell, and
many others.
The sacrifice and leadership of these brave astronauts is
what most Americans know well. What they usually do not know is
that behind each and every one of these heroes, many of whom
sitting in front of us, is a massive team of dedicated
engineers, program managers, innovators, test pilots, welders,
electricians, truck drivers, and families who are the true
heroes of our space program. To lead this incredible team
requires a leader who not only understands and believes in the
mission, but also has the interdisciplinary skill sets to
coordinate these cross-functional teams to achieve critical
outcomes.
As we have unfortunately seen in recent days, NASA is
struggling. And what is worse, it has been struggling for the
past couple of decades. Since the tragedy of the Columbia
disaster in 2003, which I remember like it was yesterday as I
was preparing to enter the pool for a high school swim meet.
NASA has been a struggling organization full of great people
searching for revival.
For 10 years the United States of America was paying the
Russian Government taxi fare to send our own astronauts into
space. This would make JFK and Ronald Reagan turn in their
graves. And in light of the recent Starliner Mission to the ISS
that left astronauts stuck in space for 9 months, we are
reminded that much work still remains.
President Trump, both, and Elon Musk, who is one of our
greatest space entrepreneurs, both knew it was time for a
change, and enter Jared Isaacman. Despite his childhood desire
to be an Air Force pilot and an astronaut, Jared found out that
he was smarter than most and started a disruptive software
company in his garage as a teenager. That company grew to be a
tremendous multi-billion dollar success, and that success
fueled his ascension into the Hall of Fame as a record-setting
jet pilot, an aggressive fighter pilot for our Air Force combat
pilots, and most recently, the first civilian astronaut to ever
conduct a spacewalk.
On top of all that, Jared and I share another passion,
pediatric philanthropy. Jared has personally donated millions
of dollars to improve health care for at-risk children all over
America, a cause which brought us together.
NASA is at a point of great pride for a generation. It
represents a moral obligation for us to continue to lead in the
greatest frontier ever known, and it deserves strong
leadership. Jared is an articulate leader, a great father and
husband, and one of the smartest people in America. Jared
understands not only how to manage complex, multi-billion
dollar organizations, but also how to design and engineer
critical systems. And to top it all off, he knows how to fly
spaceships.
America has given us a mandate to push the boundaries of
outer space, and NASA is in need of spiritual and
organizational rejuvenation, and that will take fresh, bold
leadership. Jared is the perfect man for the job, and I look
forward to adding NASA Administrator to his already remarkable
resume.
Thank you.
The Chairman. Thank you. I now recognize Mr. Isaacman for
his opening statement.
STATEMENT OF JARED ISAACMAN,
NOMINEE TO BE ADMINISTRATOR,
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
Mr. Isaacman. Thank you, Senator Sheehy, for the very
generous introduction. Thank you Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member
Cantwell, distinguished Members of the Committee, I am honored
and very grateful to be here before you today as President
Donald Trump's nominee to lead the National Aeronautics and
Space Administration.
I have lived the American dream, and I owe this Nation a
great debt. I would happily serve President Trump in any
capacity, but to work alongside the people that have expanded
the boundaries of exploration and brought humanity closer to
the stars would be the privilege of a lifetime.
Before I begin, I would like to acknowledge my crewmates,
as you did earlier, Senator, along with my wife, Monica, and my
two wonderful daughters that are sitting behind me, Mila and
Liv.
I do recognize I am a newcomer, so I thought I would share
a bit about my story, along with my understanding of the
challenges and the opportunities that lie ahead. I am an
entrepreneur, and my journey began when I took a risk and left
school at age 16 to build a company in my parents' basement.
Despite my unconventional start, I found success very early in
life and led my company into a multi-billion dollar enterprise
that employs thousands. I am a pilot with an aeronautics
degree. Over the last 20 years, I have flown over 7,000 hours
in jets and ex-military aircraft, setting world records, and
performing in air shows.
My passion for aviation also led me to start another
company, this time a defense aerospace business. As a company,
we operated the world's largest private air force. Our job was
to fly fighter jets as adversaries, executing enemy tactics,
and training American warfighters. We managed hundreds of
millions in defense contracts and saved taxpayers billions
along the way.
I am also an astronaut. Alongside a talented team, I led
two record-breaking missions to space. On my last mission, we
tested a new spacesuit while performing a spacewalk and orbited
farther away from Earth than any human has gone since the last
time Americans walked on the Moon. Along the way, my two
crewmates, Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon, became the women who
have journeyed farthest from Earth ever.
I am an advocate for science. During these missions to
space, my crew and I performed approximately 50 science and
research experiments. I have also publicly supported the
Chandra X-ray Observatory and offered to fund a mission to
extend the life and capabilities of the Hubble Space Telescope.
I care about the people back at home and our collective
future here on Earth. My space career did not burden the
taxpayers. They were privately funded and aimed at inspiring
and helping people all over the world. One example is the over
$250 million we raised to support St. Jude Children's Research
Hospital and their critical work to ensure no child dies in the
dawn of life. Alongside these efforts, I have personally
donated hundreds of millions of dollars to charitable
endeavors.
I share all this because I am not a typical nominee for
this position. I have been relatively apolitical. I am not a
scientist. I never worked at NASA. I do not think these are
weaknesses. In fact, I believe President Trump found them to be
strengths. And if confirmed, I will bring all my experience to
the greatest adventure in human history, the quest to discover
the secrets of the universe.
On that note, NASA is the most accomplished and respected
space Agency in the world, but for all NASA's historic
achievements, the Agency is not without challenges: Presidents
have called for a return to the Moon and a path to Mars since
1989, and well over a hundred billion has been spent without
the intended results. Most programs, new telescopes, rovers, X-
planes, entire spaceships, are over budget and behind schedule.
And this is discouraging because when people look up at the
stars and wonder what is out there, they want those answers
today and not decades down the road.
And I know it is not lost on members of this committee that
we have geopolitical rivals moving at impressive speeds. It is
imperative for our national security, our pride, and all that
we stand to gain in exploration that we never come in second
place. If confirmed, and with the support and guidance of
President Trump and Members of Congress, we will reinvigorate a
mission-first culture at NASA with the following objectives.
First, American astronauts will lead the way in the
ultimate high ground of space. As the President stated, we will
prioritize sending American astronauts to Mars, and along the
way we will inevitably have the capabilities to return to the
Moon and determine the scientific, economic, and national
security benefits for maintaining a presence on the lunar
surface. We will focus our technology development efforts on
the world's greatest engineering challenges, such as the
practical application of nuclear propulsion, so we can truly
unlock humankind's ability to explore among the stars.
Second, we will ignite a thriving space economy in low
Earth orbit. By working alongside international partners and
industry, we can unlock the true economic potential of space
and deliver meaningful benefits to the American people,
potentially even charting a course for NASA to become a
financially self-sustaining Agency.
Number three, NASA will be a force multiplier for science.
We will leverage NASA's scientific talent and capabilities to
enable academic institutions and industry to increase the rate
of world-changing discoveries. We will launch more telescopes,
more probes, more rovers, and endeavor to better understand our
planet and the universe beyond.
If confirmed, I will work alongside and recruit the most
talented minds this Nation has to offer, and we will
concentrate our resources toward achieving the near-impossible,
the objectives that no other Agency, company, or institution is
capable of accomplishing; we will do so knowing the risks and
the ground-breaking opportunities that lie ahead, because some
risks, like exploring the worlds beyond ours, are worth taking.
We will do this not just to expand our knowledge or
strengthen our national security, but to improve all life here
on Earth and inspire the next generation to reach even further.
This is why America needs NASA, why the world needs NASA,
because there is no more important investment than inspiring
our children to build a better and more exciting future. And
the best way NASA can do that is by delivering on our mission
and ushering in a new golden age of science and discovery. And
we will not fail.
Thank you.
[The prepared statement and biographical information of Mr.
Isaacman follow:]
Prepared Statement of Jared Isaacman, Nominee to be Administrator,
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Thank you Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and distinguished
members of the committee. I am honored and very grateful to be here
before you today as President Donald Trump's nominee to lead the
National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I have lived the
American dream and I owe this Nation a great debt. I would happily
serve President Trump in any capacity but to work alongside the people
that have expanded the boundaries of exploration and brought humanity
closer to the stars, would be the privilege of a lifetime.
Before I begin, I would like to acknowledge my family--my parents,
Sandy & Don Isaacman, my wife Monica and my two wonderful daughters,
Mila and Liv.
I do recognize, I am a newcomer so I thought I would share a bit of
my story, along with my understanding of the challenges and
opportunities ahead.
I am an entrepreneur and my journey began when I took a risk
and left school at age 16 to build a company in my parent's
basement. Despite my unconventional start, I found success very
early in life and led my company into a multi-billion-dollar
enterprise employing thousands.
I am a pilot with an aeronautics degree. Over the last 20
years, I've flown over seven thousand hours in jets and ex-
military aircraft, setting world records and performing in
airshows. My passion for aviation also led me to start another
company--this time a defense aerospace business. As a company,
we operated the world's largest private air force. Our job was
to fly fighter jets as adversaries, executing enemy tactics and
training American warfighters. We managed hundreds of millions
in defense contracts and saved taxpayers billions along the
way.
I am also an astronaut. Alongside a talented team, I led two
record-breaking missions to space. On my last mission, we
tested a new space suit while performing a spacewalk and
orbited farther away from Earth than any human has gone since
the last time Americans walked on the Moon. Along the way, my
two crewmates, Sarah Gillis and Anna Menon, became the women
who have journeyed farthest from Earth . . . ever.
I am an advocate for science. During these missions to
space, my crew & I performed approximately 50 science and
research experiments. I have also publicly supported the
Chandra x-Ray Observatory and offered to fund a mission to
extend the life and capabilities of the Hubble space telescope.
I care about the people back at home and our collective
future here on Earth. My space career did not burden the
taxpayers. They were privately funded and aimed at inspiring
and helping people all over the world. One example is the over
$250 million we raised to support St. Jude Children's Research
Hospital and their critical work to ensure no child dies in the
dawn of life. Alongside these efforts, I have personally
donated hundreds of millions to charitable endeavors.
I share all of this because I am not a typical nominee for this
position. I have been relatively apolitical; I am not a scientist and I
never worked at NASA. I do not think these are weaknesses. In fact, I
believe President Trump found them to be strengths. And if confirmed, I
will bring all my experience to the greatest adventure in human
history--the quest to discover the secrets of the universe.
On that note, NASA is the most accomplished and respected space
agency in the world--but for all of NASA's historic achievements, the
agency is not without challenges:
Presidents have called for a return to the Moon and a path
to Mars since 1989 and well over a hundred billion has been
spent without the intended results.
Most programs--new telescopes, rovers, X-planes, or entire
spaceships--are over budget and behind schedule.
This is discouraging because people look up at the stars and
wonder what is out there today, not decades down the road.
And I know it is not lost on any members of this committee that we
have geopolitical rivals moving at impressive speeds. It is
imperative--for our national security, our pride, and all that we stand
to gain in space exploration--that we never come in second place.
If confirmed, and with the support and guidance of President Trump
and members of Congress, we will reinvigorate a mission-first culture
at NASA with the following objectives:
First--American astronauts will lead the way in the ultimate `high
ground' of space.
As the President stated we will prioritize sending American
astronauts to Mars. Along the way, we will inevitably have the
capabilities to return to the Moon and determine the scientific,
economic, and national security benefits of maintaining a presence on
the lunar surface. We will focus our technology development efforts on
the world's greatest engineering challenges, such as the practical
application of nuclear propulsion, so that we can truly unlock
humankind's ability to explore among the stars.
Second--We will ignite a thriving space economy in low Earth orbit.
By working alongside international partners and industry, we can
unlock the true economic potential of space and deliver meaningful
benefits to the American people--potentially charting a course for NASA
to become a financially self-sustaining agency.
Third--NASA will be a force multiplier for science.
We will leverage NASA's scientific talent and capabilities to
enable academic institutions and industry to increase the rate of
world-changing discoveries. We will launch more telescopes, more
probes, more rovers and endeavor to better understand our planet and
the universe beyond.
If confirmed, I will work alongside & recruit the most talented
minds this Nation has to offer and we will concentrate our resources
toward achieving the near-impossible--the objectives that no other
agency, company or institution is capable of accomplishing. We will do
so knowing the risks and ground-breaking opportunities that lie ahead--
because some risks, like exploring the worlds beyond ours, are worth
taking.
We will do this not just to expand our knowledge or strengthen our
national security, but to improve all life on Earth and inspire the
next generation to reach even further. This is why America needs NASA--
why the world needs NASA--because there is no more important investment
than inspiring our children to build a beaer, more exciting future. And
the best way NASA can do that is by delivering on our mission and
ushering in a new Golden Age of Science & Discovery--and we will not
fail.
Thank You.
______
a. biographical information
1. Name (Include any former names or nicknames used): Jared Taylor
Isaacman.
2. Position to which nominated: Administrator of the National
Aeronautics & Space Administration.
3. Date of Nomination: January 20, 2025.
4. Address (List current place of residence and office addresses):
Residence: Information not released to the public.
Office: 3501 Corp Parkway, Center Valley, PA 18034.
5. Date and Place of Birth: Union, NJ.
6. Provide the name, position, and place of employment for your
spouse (if married) or domestic partner, and the names and ages of your
children (including stepchildren and children by a previous marriage).
Monica Isaacman, homemaker.
7. List all college and graduate schools attended, whether or not
you were granted a degree by the institution. Provide the name of the
institution, the dates attended, the degree received, and the date of
the degree.
Embry Riddle Aeronautical University--Bachelor in Professional
Aeronautics (2011) (February 2010-November 2011).
8. List all post-undergraduate employment, including the job title,
name of employer, and inclusive dates of employment, and highlight all
management-level jobs held and any non-managerial jobs that relate to
the position for which you are nominated.
Shift4 Payments, Founder and CEO (June 2000 to present)
Draken International, Co-founder and CEO (November 2011-
April 2020)
Denmar, Consultant (October 2020 to present)
9. Attach a copy of your resume.
See attachment.
10. List any advisory, consultative, honorary, or other part-time
service or positions with Federal, State, or local governments, other
than those listed above after 18 years of age.
Honorary Commander--US Air Force Academy
11. List all positions held as an officer, director, trustee,
partner, proprietor, agent, representative, or consultant of any
corporation, company, firm, partnership, or other business, enterprise,
educational, or other institution.
Shift4 Payments, Inc.--Chairman of the Board, CEO, and
Director, 6/2020 to present
Shift4 Payments, LLC (fka Harbortouch Payments, LLC and
Lighthouse Network, LLC)--Chief Executive Officer, 3/2014 to
present
Shift4 Subsidiaries
C.C. Productions, LLC--President and CEO, 12/2022 to
present
CFC & FP Enterprises, LLC--President and CEO, 12/2022
to present
Credorax (USA) LLC--Authorized Person to sign entity
documents for filing, checks, notes in connection with bank
accounts, facilities or services per Operating Agreement,
12/2023 to present
Pinnacle Hospitality Systems, LLC--President and CEO,
7/2022 to present
POSITOUCH, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 10/2017 to
present
POSTEC, LLC--Chief Executive Officer 12/2021 to
present
Revel Systems, Inc.--President and sole Director, 6/
2024 to present
SIDFT4 CORPORATION--President and CEO and sole
Director, 11/2017 to present
Shift4 Payments Finance Sub, Inc.--President and
Director, 10/2020 to present
Shift4Shop, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 11/2020 to
present
The Giving Block Holdings, LLC--Chief Executive
Officer, 2/2022 to present
Micros Retail Systems, LLC--Chief Executive Officer,
10/2020 to present
Venuenext, Inc--President, 4/21 to present
Shift4 Shop, LLC (formerly 3dcart, LLC)--Chief
Executive Officer, 11/2020 to present
S4-ML Holdings, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 8/2019
to present
MSI Merchant Services Holdings, LLC--Chief Executive
Officer, 3/2014-12/2021
Restaurant Manager, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 8/
2017-12/2021
Positouch, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 10/2017-12/
2021
Future POS, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 10/2017-12/
2021
Harbortouch Financial, LLC--Chief Executive Officer,
1/2011-12/2021
Draken International, LLC--Chief Executive Officer, 11/2011-
4/2020; Director/Manager, 11/2011-10/2020
26 North Aviation, Inc.--Director, 1/2007 to present
Rook Holdings, Inc--Director, President, Treasurer,
Secretary, 3/2014 to present
Rook Aviation Holdings, LLC--Member and President, 1/2019 to
present
Rook Investments, LLC--Member and President, 7/2019 to
present
Black Diamond Jet HoldCo, Inc--President, CEO, and Director,
3/2019 to present
Black Diamond Jet Holdings, LLC--President, CEO, and
Manager, 12/2019 to present
JDI Holdings LLC--Member and President, 12/2005 to present
Xenomorph, LLC (Dissolved)--Managing Member, 2/2021-2/2023
Bone Horse Marine, LLC--Managing Member, 7/2021 to present
Bone Horse, LLC--Managing Member, 4/2019-12/2024
Bone Horse Hangars, LLC--Manager and Member, 7/2021 to
present
RookX, LLC--Managing Member, 1/2021 to present
Rook Public Strategies, LLC--Managing Member, 7/2021-12/2024
PolarisX, LLC--Managing Member, 12/2022-12/2024
Rook SPV I, LLC--President, Secretary, Treasurer, 3/2021 to
present
Rook SPV II, LLC--President, Secretary, Treasurer, 8/2021 to
present
Rook SPV III, LLC--President, Secretary, Treasurer, 12/2022
to present
Rook SPV IV, LLC--President, Secretary, Treasurer, 3/2023 to
present
Rook Space Investments, LLC--President, Treasurer,
Secretary, 2/2021 to present
12. List all memberships you have had after 18 years of age or
currently hold with any civic, social, charitable, educational,
political, professional, fraternal, benevolent or religiously
affiliated organization, private club, or other membership organization
(You do not have to list your religious affiliation or membership in a
religious house of worship or institution). Include dates of membership
and any positions you have held with any organization. Please note
whether any such club or organization restricts membership on the basis
of sex, race, color, religion, national origin, age, or disability.
Business Executives for National Security
Association of Space Explorers
Experimental Aircraft Association
Aircraft Owners Pilot Association
International Council of Air Shows
CNBC CEO Council
These organizations do not restrict membership on the basis of sex,
race, color, religion, national origin, age, or disability.
13. Have you ever been a candidate for and/or held a public office
(elected, non-elected, or appointed)? If so, indicate whether any
campaign has any outstanding debt the amount, and whether you are
personally liable for that debt. No.
14. List all memberships and offices held with and services
rendered to, whether compensated or not, any political party or
election committee within the past ten years. If you have held a paid
position or served in a formal or official advisory position (whether
compensated or not) in a political campaign within the past ten years,
identify the particulars of the campaign, including the candidate, year
of the campaign, and your title and responsibilities. None.
15. Itemize all political contributions to any individual, campaign
organization, political party, political action committee, or similar
entity of$200 or more for the past ten years.
See attachment.
16. List all scholarships, fellowships, honorary degrees, honorary
society memberships, military medals, and any other special recognition
for outstanding service or achievements.
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Honorary Doctorate
Foreign Policy Research Institute, Ben Franklin Award
United States Air Force Academy, Honorary Commander
FAA, Commercial Astronaut Wings
National Business Aviation Association, Meritorious Service
to Aviation Award
Ernst & Young, EY Entrepreneur of the Year
National Space Society, NSS Space Pioneer Award for
Entrepreneurship
UP Partners, UP Inspiration Award
Living Legends of Aviation, Dr. Buzz Aldrin Space
Advancement Award; Eren Ozmen Entrepreneur of the Year Award;
Induction to Living Legends of Aviation
Space Force Association, Advancing Human Presence in the
Space Domain Award
EarthLight Foundation, Space Cowboy Award
Global Lithuanian Leaders, The Laureate of Global Lithuanian
Award 2021
Space Camp, Hall of Fame
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Eagle of Excellence
Award
AOPA Hoover Trophy
Everyday Astronaut Astro Awards, Most Inspiring, Most
Innovative and Important Mission of 2024 Award
St. Jude Children's Research Hospital, Michael F. Tamer
Award
American Astronautical Society, Neil Armstrong Space Flight
Achievement Award
Aim Higher Gala, Inspiration Award
Commercial Spaceflight Federation. Commercial Space Business
& Finance Award
Vladimir Komarov Diploma, FAI Astronautic Records Commission
NAA/FAI, Numerous NAA/FAI World Records in Aviation and
Space
Electronic Transactions Association, 40 Under 40
Inc 500, 30 Under 30
Air Force Association, John R. Alison Award
Governor Rick Scott, FL, Draken International recognized for
local job growth
17. List all books, articles, columns, letters to the editor,
Internet blog postings, or other publications you have authored,
individually or with others. Include a link to each publication when
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the
publication when available.
Not applicable.
18. List all speeches, panel discussions, and presentations (e.g.,
PowerPoint) that you have given on topics relevant to the position for
which you have been nominated. Include a link to each publication when
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the
speech or presentation when available.
Speech, Commencement Address at Embry-Riddle's Fall 2024
Undergraduate Commencement Ceremony, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical
University, Decem-
ber 12, 2024. See the university's press release here, http://
news.erau.edu/
headlines/jared-isaacman-inspires-emb1y-riddle-grads-to-pursue-
moonshots#:
:text=%E2%80%9Clt%27s%20you%20who%20wil1%20make,Center%20in%20
Daytona%20Beach%2C%20Florida., and a video of the address here,
https://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjyyGjeYrKO.
Fireside Chat, Space Force Power Conference, United States
Space Force, December 10, 2024. A recording of the event is
available here: https://www
.youtube.com/watch?v=CdaqX3AMxy8
Panelist, Astronaut Reunion, Association of Space Explorers,
December 5, 2024.
Fireside Chat, Polaris Dawn Event, UC Davis for Spaceflight
Research, November 22, 2024.
Fireside Chat, Beyond Earth Symposium, Beyond Earth
Institute, November 13, 2024. A recording of the event is
available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pZ1H4WjnVU
Fireside Chat, Foreign Policy Research Institute's 18th
Annual Benjamin Franklin Award for Public Service, Foreign
Policy Research Institute, November 13, 2024.
Panelist, Planetary Congress, Association of Space
Explorers, October 3, 2024.
Panelist, Up.Summit, UP.Partners, September 30, 2024.
Fireside Chat, Polaris Dawn Mission Briefing, Polaris Dawn,
August 19, 2024. A recording of the event is available here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGtzDmwfkCY.
Fireside Chat, X Takeover, Tesla Owners of Silicon Valley,
July, 28, 2024. A recording of the event is available here:
https://www.facebook.com/tesla
siliconvalley/videos/full-interview-with-jared-isaacman-shares-
the-ground-breaking-work-with-polaris-/8703988886355087/.
Fireside Chat, Commercial Spaceflight Transportation
Conference Washington, DC, Commercial Space Federation,
February, 21, 2024.
Fireside Chat, ICR Conference, ICR, January 8, 2024.
Fireside Chat, Space Force Power Conference, United States
Space Force, December 13, 2023.
Fireside Chat, LiveWIRED, WIRED, November 5, 2023. A
recording of the event is available here: http://www.wired.com/
video/watch/lets-die-on-mars
Fireside Chat, Space Cowboy Ball, EarthLight Foundation,
November 18, 2023.
Fireside Chat, NBAA Annual Conference, NBAA, October 17,
2023.
Panelist, EAA Aviation Museum Space Day Event, October 7,
2023.
Panelist, Disrupt Conference, TechCrunch, September 19,
2023.
Fireside Chat, International Space Development Conference,
National Space Society, May 25, 2023.
Fireside Chat, National Character and Leadership Symposium
(NCLS), United States Air Force Academy, February 23, 2023.
Fireside Chat, SpaceCom 2023--Accelerating the Global
Business of Space, SpaceCom, February 23, 2023.
Fireside Chat, Space Force Culture Coalition, United States
Space Force, February 21, 2023.
Fireside Chat, BENS Virtual Discussion on Polaris Dawn with
NY Metro Member Jared Isaacman, BENS, February 21, 2023.
Acceptance Speech, Living Legends of Aviation, Kitty Hawk
Air Academy, January 20, 2023.
Panelists, UP.Summit, UP.Partners, June 7, 2022.
Fireside Chat, LOGIN '22, LOGIN, June 3, 2022.
Speech, Commencement Address at Embry-Riddle's 2022 Spring
Commencement, Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, May 14,
2022.
Presenter, Easterseals Advocacy Awards, Easterseals April
12, 2022. A recording of the event is available here: https://
www.youtube.com/watch?v
=ehpBgLMJU7s.
Fireside Chat, Agilysys User Conference, Agilysys, March 1,
2022.
Acceptance Speech, Living Legends of Aviation, Kitty Hawk
Air Academy, January 21, 2022.
Fireside Chat, Annual CNBC Technology Executive Council
Summit, CNBC, November 17, 2021.
Panelist, ASCEND, The American Institute of Aeronautics and
Astronautics, November, 15, 2021. A recording of the event is
available here: https://youtube/VjHzpOqu5iU
19. List all public statements you have made during the past ten
years, including statements in news articles and radio and podcasts and
television appearances, which are on topics relevant to the position
for which you have been nominated, including dates. Include a link to
each statement when possible. If a link is not available, provide a
digital copy of the statement when available.
See attached.
20. List all digital platforms (including social media and other
digital content sites) on which you currently or have formerly operated
an account, regardless of whether or not the account was held in your
name or an alias. Include the full name of an ``alias'' or ``handle'',
including the complete URL and username with hyperlinks, you have used
on each of the named platforms. Indicate whether the account is active,
deleted, or dormant. Include a link to each account if possible.
X/Twitter: @rookisaacman, https://x.com/rookisaacman
Instagram: rookisaacman, https://www.instagram.com/
rookisaacman/
Shift4 personnel previously created a Linkedin account for
me, but I never used it, and it has been deleted.
21. Please identify each instance in which you have testified
orally or in writing before Congress in a governmental or non-
governmental capacity and specify the date, committee, and subject
matter of each testimony.
None.
22. Given the current mission, major programs, and major
operational objectives of the department/agency/commission/corporation
to which you have been nominated, what in your background or employment
experience do you believe affirmatively qualifies you for appointment
to the position for which you have been nominated, and why do you wish
to serve in that position?
I believe many aspects of my background make me qualified to serve
as NASA Administrator, and it would be an immense honor to do so. My
education, experience as a pilot, time as a commercial astronaut, and
work as an entrepreneur together reflect my life-long passions of
aviation and spaceflight. Throughout my various endeavors, I have had
the opportunity to work with the government as a partner in the private
sector. This has provided me with unique insights into how we can
improve and innovate NASA's operations. I am committed to NASA's quest
to explore space, innovate for humanity, and inspire our Nation through
discovery.
As a student, I attended the Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University
where I graduated with a bachelor's degree in professional aeronautics.
As a pilot, I have more than 7,700 hours of jet pilot experience
and the highest FAA ratings, which include my Airline Transport Pilot
certificate with experimental type ratings to operate ex-military
aircraft.
As a commercial astronaut, I have spent the last four years helping
plan, develop, train, and execute two commercial space missions through
the Polaris Program. My crew and I flew farther into space than any
other human has since Apollo 17-more than 50 years ago. Aspects of our
missions reflect the exciting future of space, such as the testing of
new spacesuits during our spacewalk and the use of laser communications
to send a message to the world. These efforts renewed excitement about
what the future holds for America as a spacefaring Nation, but we also
remained dedicated to addressing the hardships and challenges of the
world we live in today. In the course of the Polaris missions, we
raised over $250 million for St. Jude Childrens Research hospital, of
which I have contributed more than $125 million directly. My experience
as an astronaut and leader for two missions has also given me a
profound understanding of the coordination required between NASA,
commercial partners, other government agencies, and outside
collaborators to achieve mission success.
As an entrepreneur, I have also created a career in business that
is directly related to managing a large agency and advancing American
aeronautical interests and innovation. I co-founded the world's largest
private air force, Draken International, to train pilots for the United
States Armed Forces and its allies. This defense aerospace business,
involving high performance military aircraft, saved taxpayers hundreds
of millions and enhanced the training of our military warfighters. I am
also the founder and CEO of Shift4 Payments, an innovative payment
processor company, which I started in my parents basement when I was 16
years old. Throughout my long business career, I have run my companies
efficiently, responsibly, and with thousands of employees.
I hope to have the opportunity to advance the President's goal for
America to lead in space, science, technology, and exploration as NASA
Administrator.
23. What do you believe are your responsibilities, if confirmed, to
ensure that the department/agency/commission/corporation has proper
management and accounting controls, and what experience do you have in
managing a large organization?
It is imperative that the Administrator of NASA manages the agency
responsibly and efficiently to ensure its organizational resources are
dedicated to consistently moving the ball forward and advancing our
national interests.
As the founder and CEO of two large companies, I am responsible for
overseeing large budgets and have navigated complex logistics matters
on a daily basis. As the founder and CEO of an aerospace defense
contractor under government oversight, and a public company listed on
the New York Stock Exchange, I also understand the importance of
leading large organizations responsibly with proper governance and
accounting controls.
24. What do you believe to be the top three challenges facing the
department/agency/commission/corporation, and why?
NASA is the most respected and accomplished space agency in the
world. The NASA logo inspires Americans and people the world over to
dream of what the future may hold. However, the agency has faced
significant challenges over the years that have impeded the mission.
1. NASA has been unable to return to the Moon or have an achievable
path to Mars, despite plans to do so as far back as President
George H.W. Bush's Administration in 1989.
2. The pace of world changing discoveries has slowed with flagship
missions consistently billions over budget and behind schedule.
3. The space economy has yet to be revealed. For over 60 years, the
space economy has had the same customers (governments) looking
for the same capabilities (communications and observation).
I believe the challenges stem from:
A distracting number of priorities that are not fully
aligned with the NASA mission.
An organizational structure and policies that fuel
bureaucracy and throttle progress.
A culture that needs to be reinvigorated to make better use
of capable commercial industry and to win against geopolitical
rivals that are quickly threatening the ever expanding ``high
ground''. If we do not lead, we follow, and if we follow, we
may never catch-up.
I am committed to working tirelessly alongside some of the
brightest minds in the Nation to solve the problems and return NASA's
focus to executing on the mission.
b. potential conflicts of interest
1. Describe all financial arrangements, deferred compensation
agreements, and other continuing dealings with business associates,
clients, or customers. Please include information related to retirement
accounts, such as a 40l(k) or pension plan.
My employment agreements and arrangements are described on my Form
278e Public Financial Disclosure Report, which I am working on with the
Office of Government Ethics (OGE) and NASA ethics officials. That form
will disclose the following agreements and arrangements:
1) A corporation I own has a Tax Receivable Agreement (TRA) with
Shift4 Payments, Inc. Under the TRA, Shift4 Payments, Inc.
agrees to make payments to the historic equity owners in an
amount equal to a percentage of the benefit the corporation
derives from certain specific tax attributes, if, as and when
realized Prior to the IPO of Shift4 in 2020, the company
operated as a partnership for U.S. Tax purposes. Upon the IPO,
an umbrella partnership--C-Corporation structure was
established. The operating partnership (Shift4 Payments, LLC)
will be modified by reclassifying my interests as an original
owner into a new class of interest that is exchangeable for
Shift4 common stock (Class A). The TRA requires Shift4 to share
tax savings with the original partners.
2) Pursuant to my employment agreement with Shift4 Payments, LLC,
for 36 months after resignation, I will be eligible for health
insurance benefits and other reimbursed expenses for fees in
connection with former employment/ownership. I do not
anticipate participating in or accepting such benefits.
3) In February 2025, I anticipate receiving an annual RSU award from
Shift4 Payments, Inc. for the 2024 calendar year. RSU grant
levels for the Chief Executive Officer are decided in
conjunction with the Company's year-end compensation decisions
based on individual and Company performance from the prior
fiscal year.
2. Do you have any commitments or agreements, formal or informal,
to maintain employment, affiliation, or practice with any business,
association, or other organization during your appointment? If so,
please explain.
An entity I own holds agreements with Space Exploration
Technologies Corp. (SpaceX). These include agreements related to two
future space flight missions in the Polaris Program. There are three
space flight service agreements related to different missions in the
Polaris Program.
I am currently working with OGE and NASA ethics officials on
addressing these contracts from an ethics and conflicts perspective. I
am committed to working with OGE to identify an appropriate way to
avoid conflicts of interest related to these contracts and work toward
a resolution that, if necessary, will be fully described in my Ethics
Agreement letter.
3. Indicate any investments, obligations, liabilities, or other
relationships which could involve potential conflicts of interest in
the position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will
resolve each potential conflict of interest.
I have equity interest in Shift4 Payments, Inc., a payments company
that predominantly serves restaurants, hotels, sports stadiums and
theme parks. Shift4 processes some of the payments for SpaceX Starlink
Internet service, but this represents less than \1/2\ of a percent of
the company's revenue. I intend to resign from my positions and will
continue to work with OGE and NASA ethics officials on how to handle my
interest in Shift4.
I own ex-military aircraft that are occasionally used in a charter
or lease arrangement by U.S. Government test pilot schools and for R&D
testing.
My separate involvement in contracts with SpaceX is described in
the previous question.
In all of these matters, I am working with OGE and NASA ethics
officials to identify and resolve conflicts in the appropriate time
frame. We are working toward an Ethics Agreement letter that will
contain my commitments to resolve existing conflicts. As Administrator,
I would be committed to full transparency on these issues and I would
work closely with the agency's ethics staff and OGE to resolve any
potential conflicts that should arise during my tenure.
4. Describe any business relationship, dealing, or financial
transaction which you have had during the last ten years, whether for
yourself, on behalf of a client, or acting as an agent, that could in
any way constitute or result in a possible conflict of interest in the
position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will resolve
each potential conflict of interest.
My involvement in contracts with SpaceX is described in the
previous questions. As noted above, I am working with OGE and NASA
ethics officials to identify and resolve conflicts in the appropriate
time frame. As Administrator, I would be committed to full transparency
on these issues and I would work closely with the agency's ethics staff
and OGE to resolve any potential conflicts that should arise during my
tenure.
5. Identify any other potential conflicts of interest and explain
how you will resolve each potential conflict of interest. None.
6. Describe any activity during the past ten years, including the
names of clients represented, in which you have been engaged for the
purpose of directly or indirectly influencing the passage, defeat, or
modification of any legislation or affecting the administration and
execution of law or public policy. None.
c. legal matters
1. Have you ever been disciplined or cited for a breach of ethics,
professional misconduct, or retaliation by, or been the subject of a
complaint to, any court, administrative agency, the Office of Special
Counsel, an Inspector General, professional association, disciplinary
committee, or other professional group? No.
If yes:
a. Provide the name ofthe court, agency, association, committee, or
group;
b. Provide the date the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or
personnel action was issued or initiated;
c. Describe the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or
personnel action;
d. Provide the results of the citation, disciplinary action,
complaint, or personnel action.
2. Have you ever been investigated, arrested, charged, or held by
any Federal, State, or other law enforcement authority of any Federal,
State, county, municipal, or foreign government entity, other than for
a minor traffic offense? If so, please explain.
Yes, in February 2010, when returning from a trip to watch the
Olympics in Vancouver, I was detained by U.S. Customs and Border
Protection on a warrant related to a charge for ``drawing and passing
checks without sufficient funds,'' based on a dispute with the Palms
Casino Resort in Las Vegas over a travel reimbursement that the resort
promised and subsequently failed to honor. The dispute arose the month
prior, and I was under the impression the matter was resolved. I was
not aware that law enforcement was involved in the matter. As a result,
I was very surprised when CBP took action. However, the matter was
resolved in less than 24 hours and the charges were dismissed.
I did then and still now disagree with the other party's handling
of the matter. I considered civil action against the resort, but opted
against it to avoid any further headache.
Following this incident, the Nevada district court sealed all
records associated with this incident, stating, ``All proceedings
recounted in the sealed records are deemed never to have occurred.''
Although it remains sealed, in the interest of full transparency, I
have disclosed it here for the Committee's awareness.
3. Have you or any business or nonprofit of which you are or were
an officer ever been involved as a party in an administrative agency
proceeding, criminal proceeding, or civil litigation? If so, please
explain.
Shift4, the company of which I am currently CEO, and its
predecessors and subsidiaries have collectively been in business for
over 25 years. The company, which is publicly traded on the NYSE, is
infrequently party to lawsuits filed by and against the company. Please
see attached for PACER listings of litigation involving Shift4, as well
as its predecessors Harbortouch Payments, LLC, and United Bank Card,
Inc. Also attached are PACER listings of litigation involving Draken
International, the company which I co-founded and for which was
previously CEO, but with which I am no longer affiliated. Also attached
is a PACER listing of litigation involving me individually.
To the extent the Committee would like additional information on
matters listed in the PACER attachments, such as a summary of
litigation involving Shift4 over a certain time period, please do not
hesitate to ask.
With respect to agency proceedings, Shift4 recently settled a
matter with the SEC involving allegations that the company failed to
disclose on its annual 10-K forms and/or its proxy statements for FY
2020 through FY 2022 related person transactions for a total of three
individuals. This settlement began with outreach from the SEC
requesting that Shift4 voluntarily provide documents and information
regarding related persons transactions involving immediate family
members of Shift4's officers and directors. Shift4 cooperated with the
inquiry, in the course of which we learned that three individuals'
names and compensations were inadvertently left off of SEC-required
reports and disclosures. Those disclosures were made as of April of
last year.
Shift4 offered to pay $750,000 to settle the claim. For reference,
$750,000 is about 0.03 percent of Shift4's annual revenue for 2023. The
settlement order, which states, ``In determining to accept the Offer,
the [SEC] considered remedial acts promptly undertaken by [Shift4],
including making disclosures and improvements to policies and
procedures concerning related person transactions, as well as
cooperation afforded the Commission staff,'' is available on the SEC's
website here: https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/adrnin/2025/34-
102146.pdf. SEC Order 11.
4. Have you ever been convicted (including pleas of guilty or no/o
contendere) of any criminal violation other than a minor traffic
offense? If so, please explain. No.
5. Have you ever been accused, formally or informally, of sexual
assault, sexual harassment, or discrimination on the basis of sex,
race, religion, or any other basis? If so, please explain. No.
6. Please advise the Committee of any additional information,
favorable or unfavorable, which you feel should be disclosed in
connection with your nomination.
I am a devoted philanthropist and have demonstrated a large
financial commitment to various causes throughout my life. Below are
details regarding the contributions of $50,000 or greater I have
donated to 501(c)(3) organizations in my personal capacity:
St. Jude Children's Research Hospital (2021, 2022, 2023):
$123,351,928
Renaissance Charitable Foundation, Inc. (2022, 2023, 2024):
$13,150,247
U.S. Space & Rocket Center Education Foundation (2022, 2023,
2024): $11,352,879
Naval Aviation Museum Foundation, Inc. (2021): $5,533,456
St. Luke's Health Network, Inc. (2023, 2024): $4,776,908
Lehigh Valley Zoo (2024): $1,000,000
Edward Charles Foundation (2021, 2022): $650,000
Davinci Science Center (2022): $571,467
Baylor College of Medicine (2022): $516,181
House of Hope Foundation for Kids with Cancer (2023):
$500,000
Space Force Historical Foundation (2024): $500,000
California Institute of Technology (2025): $500,000
Global Citizen (3-Year Pledge beginning in 2023) (2023,
2024): $500,000
Kiddie Hawk (5-Year Pledge beginning in 2023) (2023, 2024):
$200,000
Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University (2023): $150,000
Los Angeles Dodgers Foundation (2024): $126,683
Ukraine House DC Foundation (2022): $100,000
Business Executives for National Security (2023): $80,000
El Sistema USA (2023): $75,000
The Mars Generation (2021): $50,000
Earthlight Foundation (2023): $50,000
d. relationship with committee
1. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation complies with deadlines for information set by
congressional committees, and that your department/agency/commission/
corporation endeavors to timely comply with requests for information
from individual Members of Congress, including requests from members in
the minority? Yes.
2. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation does whatever it can to protect congressional witnesses and
whistleblowers from reprisal for their testimony and disclosures? Yes.
3. Will you cooperate in providing the Committee with requested
witnesses, including technical experts and career employees, with
firsthand knowledge of matters of interest to the Committee? Yes.
4. Are you willing to appear and testify before any duly
constituted committee of the Congress on such occasions as you may be
reasonably requested to do so? Yes.
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POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS 2015-PRESENT
(through 2/3/2025)
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TRUMP VANCE INAUGURAL 11/27/2024 $2,000,000.00
COMMITTEE, INC.
WHITESIDES VICTORY FUND 10/29/2024 $5,000.00 JFC contribution: allocated by JFC to California
Democratic Party (see below)
(CALIFORNIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY) 10/29/2024 $5,000.00
DSCC 10/23/2024 $41,300.00
MONTANANS FOR TESTER 10/1/2024 $3,300.00
MICHIGAN DEMOCRATIC STATE 8/1/2024 $10,000.00
CENTRAL COMMITTEE
MITTEN PAC 8/1/2024 $5,000.00
ELISSA SLOTKIN FOR MICHIGAN 7/29/2024 $3,300.00
ELISSA SLOTKIN FOR MICHIGAN 7/29/2024 $3,300.00
CASEY KEYSTONE VICTORY FUND 7/17/2024 $15,400.00 JFC contribution: allocated by JFC to
Pennsylvania Democratic Party, Bob Casey for
Senate, Inc., and Keystone America PAC (see
below)
(KEYSTONE AMERICA PAC) 7/22/2024 $2,100.00
(BOB CASEY FOR SENATE INC) 7/22/2024 $3,300.00
(PENNSYLVANIA DEMOCRATIC PARTY) 7/22/2024 $10,000.00
GEORGE WHITESIDES FOR CONGRESS 2/20/2023 $3,300.00
GEORGE WHITESIDES FOR CONGRESS 2/20/2023 $3,300.00
MARK KELLY FOR SENATE 10/1/2022 $2,900.00 In-Kind Contribution--Fundraising Event Catering
DSCC 7/11/2022 $26,500.00
DSCC 7/11/2022 $23,500.00 Recount Account
MONTANANS FOR TESTER 3/31/2022 $2,900.00
BOB CASEY FOR SENATE INC 3/30/2022 $2,900.00 ................................................
SHAHEEN FOR SENATE 3/30/2022 $2,900.00
DSCC 3/29/2022 $10,000.00
FRIENDS OF MARK WARNER 3/29/2022 $900.00
FRIENDS OF MARK WARNER 11/2/2021 $2,000.00
SMP 10/28/2021 $100,000.00
SUSAN WILD FOR CONGRESS 10/24/2021 $2,900.00
SUSAN WILD FOR CONGRESS 10/20/2021 $2,900.00
IMPACT 10/20/2021 $10,000.00 $5,000 refunded on 11/2/2021
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER 10/20/2021 $2,900.00
FRIENDS OF SCHUMER 10/20/2021 $2,900.00
MARK KELLY FOR SENATE 7/3/2021 $2,900.00
FRIENDS OF DENNIS ROSS 11/8/2016 $500.00
FRIENDS OF DAVID JOLLY 10/7/2015 $1,000.00
GRAVES FOR CONGRESS 3/31/2015 $1,500.00
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JOSH SHAPIRO FOR GOVERNOR 3/2/2022 $50,000
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The Chairman. Thank you.
Ms. Trusty.
STATEMENT OF OLIVIA TRUSTY, NOMINEE TO BE A MEMBER, FEDERAL
COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION
Ms. Trusty. Thank you. Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member
Cantwell, members of the Committee, thank you for convening
this hearing.
Senator Wicker, thank you so much for your very kind
introduction. It has been a privilege to work with you on your
staff for nearly 8 years, serving the people of Mississippi and
all Americans. Thank you so much for this opportunity.
I also thank President Trump for the incredible honor of
this nomination to be a Commissioner at the Federal
Communications Commission.
And last but not least, I thank my family for their love
and support. And I will briefly introduce those here today and
watching via webcast: My parents, Terry and Ellen Trusty; my
sisters Lauren, Jennifer, Angela, Elizabeth, and Caroline, and
my brother TJ; my brothers and sister-in-law, Thomas
Ventimiglia, Matthew Burton, Saula Fifita, and Nain Trusty; and
my precious nieces and nephews, Sofia, Thomas, and Julian
Ventimiglia, Ella, Jack, Caroline Kay, and Henry Burton, and
Isabelle, Summer, Ellen, and Lana Trusty. I love you all so
very much.
Growing up in a large family with five sisters and one
brother, I was taught early on about the value of service.
Through my parents' daily actions, they emphasized the
importance of helping others, whether through small acts or
larger commitments. As I have grown older, I have credited my
parents' example to the example set by my paternal and maternal
grandfathers, George Preston Trusty Sr., and Ernest DeWitt
Powell Jr., both of whom served our country in World War II and
the Korean War, respectively. Although my grandfathers came
from different backgrounds, they shared a common commitment to
defending this country and protecting the values we all hold
dear.
What brings me here today is my desire to continue the
shared commitment to public service and love of country that
has been in my family for generations.
When I first moved to Washington, D.C., nearly 20 years
ago, after graduating from the University of North Carolina at
Chapel Hill, I began my career in the public policy office of a
telecommunications company. This is where I was introduced to
Universal Service principles and the critical mission of the
FCC. During that time, I saw firsthand how access to modern
communication services, particularly for Americans living in
rural and remote areas could change lives.
I also learned the value of a simple Internet connection,
it not only gives communities the ability to stay connected
with loved ones, but it opens the door to education, jobs,
economic opportunities, and so much more. Indeed, it allows
Americans to participate fully in society and an ever-expanding
global digital economy. Following my time in the private
sector, I have had the opportunity to work in the House of
Representatives and in this hallowed chamber on
telecommunications, technology, consumer protection, and most
recently, national security.
All of these policy areas are core to the FCC's mission to
make available affordable, high-speed, reliable, and secure
communication services.
Now, in carrying out this mission, it is not lost on me
that the problem set facing the Commission is both vast and
diverse. The Agency must contend with unforgiving geographic
landscapes to achieve universal connectivity. It must stay
ahead of sophisticated illegal robocallers defrauding and
scamming vulnerable populations like our youth and seniors. It
must work with Federal partners to defend the security of our
communications networks from the attacks of nation-state
actors, and it must work collaboratively with private and
public sector interests to ensure that the United States leads
the world in next-generation communications.
Notwithstanding these issues, given my unique experiences
working on both, this distinguished Committee, and the Armed
Services Committee, as well as the dedication and expertise of
FCC staff, I believe these challenges can be overcome.
In that spirit, I would like to offer a short list of
commitments on which I hope there is bipartisan consensus, if
confirmed. If confirmed, I will work with Congress and the
administration to expand access to high-speed Internet services
for all Americans, protect consumers from illegal robocalls,
strengthen the security of the Nation's telecommunications
networks, and restore America's leadership in next-generation
communications technologies.
Mr. Chairman, thank you again for holding this hearing. I
look forward to answering any questions.
[The prepared statement and biographical information of Ms.
Trusty follow:]
Prepared Statement of Olivia Trusty, Nominee to be a Commissioner,
Federal Communications Commission
Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and members of the
Committee. It is a tremendous honor to be nominated and I thank
President Trump for this opportunity. I also thank my family for their
love and support.
Growing up in a large family with five sisters and one brother, I
was taught early on about the value of service. Through my parents'
daily actions, they emphasized the importance of helping others,
whether through small acts or larger commitments. As I have grown
older, I have credited my parents' example to the example set by my
paternal and maternal grandfathers--George Preston Trusty, Sr. and
Ernest Dewitt Powell, Jr. Both of whom served our country in World War
II and the Korean War, respectively. Although my grandfathers came from
different backgrounds, they shared a common commitment to defending
this country and protecting the values we all hold dear. What brings me
here today is my desire to continue the shared commitment to public
service and love of country that has been in my family for generations.
When I first moved to Washington, DC nearly twenty years ago after
graduating from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, I
began my career in the public policy office of a telecommunications
company. This is where I was introduced to universal service principles
and the critical mission of the FCC. During that time, I saw first-hand
how access to modern communications services, particularly for
Americans living in rural and remote areas, could change lives. I also
learned the value of a simple Internet connection: it not only gives
communities the ability to stay connected with loved ones, but it opens
the door to education, jobs, economic opportunities, and so much more.
Indeed, it allows Americans to participate fully in society and an
ever-expanding global digital economy.
Following my time in the private sector, I have had the opportunity
to work in the House of Representatives and in this hallowed chamber on
telecommunications, technology, consumer protection, and, most
recently, national security. All of these policy areas are core to the
FCC's mission to make available affordable, high-speed, reliable, and
secure communications services.
In carrying out this mission, it is not lost on me that the problem
set facing the Commission is vast and diverse. The agency must contend
with unforgiving geographic landscapes to achieve universal
connectivity; it must stay ahead of sophisticated illegal robocallers
defrauding and scamming vulnerable populations like our youth and
seniors; it must work with Federal partners to defend the security of
our communications networks from the attacks of nation state actors;
and it must work collaboratively with private and public sector
interests to ensure that the United States leads the world in next-
generation communications. Notwithstanding these issues, given my
unique experiences working on both this distinguished committee and the
Armed Services Committee, as well as the dedication and expertise of
FCC staff, I believe these challenges can be overcome.
In that spirit, I would like offer a short list of commitments on
which I hope there is bipartisan consensus. If confirmed, I will work
with Congress and the Administration to:
Expand access to affordable, high-speed Internet services
for all Americans;
Protect consumers from illegal robocalls;
Strengthen the security of the Nation's telecommunications'
networks; and
Restore America's leadership in next-generation
communications technologies.
Mr. Chairman, thank you, again, for holding this hearing and I look
forward to answering any questions.
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a. biographical information
1. Name (Include any former names or nicknames used): Olivia Britt
Trusty.
2. Position to which nominated: Commissioner at the Federal
Communications Commission.
3. Date of Nomination: February 11, 2025.
4. Address (List current place of residence and office addresses):
Residence: Information not released to the public.
Office: 228 Russell Senate Office Building, Washington, DC
20510.
5. Date and Place of Birth: Baltimore, Maryland.
6. Provide the name, position, and place of employment for your
spouse (if married) or domestic partner, and the names and ages of your
children (including stepchildren and children by a previous marriage).
Not applicable.
7. List all college and graduate schools attended, whether or not
you were granted a degree by the institution. Provide the name of the
institution, the dates attended, the degree received, and the date of
the degree.
Undergraduate Degree:
The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, August
2001 to May 2005, Bachelor of Arts Degree in Political
Science, Awarded May 2005
Graduate Degree:
Georgetown University, August 2005 to December 2006,
Master of Arts Degree in American Government, Awarded
December 2006
8. List all post-undergraduate employment, including the job title,
name of employer, and inclusive dates of employment, and highlight all
management-level jobs held and any non-managerial jobs that relate to
the position for which you are nominated.
Qwest Communications, Senior Policy Representative and
Government Relations Assistant, May 2006-April 2010*
Verizon, Senior Consultant and Legislative Assistant, April
2010-September 2013*
Office of U.S. Congressman Bob Latta (R-OH), Legislative
Assistant, September 2013-September 2014*
U.S. House Committee on Energy and Commerce, Subcommittee on
Digital Commerce and Consumer Protection, Professional Staff
Member, October 2014-April 2017*
Office of U.S. Senator Roger F. Wicker, Legislative Assistant/
Telecommunications Subcommittee Staff Director, May 2017-
December 2018*
U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
Policy Director, January 2019-December 2022**
U.S. Senate Committee on Armed Services, Professional Staff
Member/Cyber Lead, January 2023 to present**
*Denotes non-managerial job that relates to the position for
which I have been nominated
**Denotes managerial-level job that relates to the position for
which I have been nominated
9. Attach a copy of your resume.
Attached.
10. List any advisory, consultative, honorary, or other part-time
service or positions with Federal, State, or local governments, other
than those listed above after 18 years of age. None.
11. List all positions held as an officer, director, trustee,
partner, proprietor, agent, representative, or consultant of any
corporation, company, firm, partnership, or other business, enterprise,
educational, or other institution.
Gymnastics Teacher--Hill's Gymnastics, Gaithersburg, MD*
Adjunct Lecturer--Georgetown University, Washington, DC*
*I no longer hold these positions.
12. List all memberships you have had after 18 years of age or
currently hold with any civic, social, charitable, educational,
political, professional, fraternal, benevolent or religiously
affiliated organization, private club, or other membership organization
(You do not have to list your religious affiliation or membership in a
religious house of worship or institution). Include dates of membership
and any positions you have held with any organization. Please note
whether any such club or organization restricts membership on the basis
of sex, race, color, religion, national origin, age, or disability.
None.
13. Have you ever been a candidate for and/or held a public office
(elected, non-elected, or appointed)? If so, indicate whether any
campaign has any outstanding debt, the amount, and whether you are
personally liable for that debt. No.
14. List all memberships and offices held with and services
rendered to, whether compensated or not, any political party or
election committee within the past ten years. If you have held a paid
position or served in a formal or official advisory position (whether
compensated or not) in a political campaign within the past ten years,
identify the particulars of the campaign, including the candidate, year
of the campaign, and your title and responsibilities. None.
15. Itemize all political contributions to any individual, campaign
organization, political party, political action committee, or similar
entity of $200 or more for the past ten years.
From 2016 to 2024, I have made political contributions to Donald J.
Trump for President, WinRed, and the Trump National Committee. The
cumulative amount of my contributions to WinRed exceeds $200. Those
contributions are listed below.
11/06/24--WinRed, $141.00
10/16/24--WinRed, $47.00
07/14/24--WinRed, $20.82
08/30/20--WinRed, $5.00
07/26/20--WinRed, $5.00
06/14/20--WinRed, $5.00
05/09/20--WinRed, $5.00
12/20/19--WinRed, $5.00
16. List all scholarships, fellowships, honorary degrees, honorary
society memberships, military medals, and any other special recognition
for outstanding service or achievements.
Athletic scholarship at the University of North Carolina at
Chapel Hill (2001-2005)
Eastern Atlantic Gymnastics League All-Academic Team (2001-
2005)
NACGC Academic All-America (2004-2005)
Carolina Panthers Graduate Scholarship (2005)
Black Women's Congressional Alliance Honoree (2023)
Women in Cable Telecommunications ``Listen Award'' Recipient
(2023)
17. List all books, articles, columns, letters to the editor,
Internet blog postings, or other publications you have authored,
individually or with others. Include a link to each publication when
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the
publication when available. None.
18. List all speeches, panel discussions, and presentations (e.g.,
PowerPoint) that you have given on topics relevant to the position for
which you have been nominated. Include a link to each publication when
possible. If a link is not available, provide a digital copy of the
speech or presentation when available.
2020 CTIA 5G Summit, Congressional Perspective: What's Ahead
for Washington--https://www.ctia.org/news/video-congressional-
perspective-whats-ahead-for-wireless-in-washington
2022 FCBA Annual Seminar Congressional Panel
2024 Dynamic Spectrum Alliance Global Summit: Government and
Commercial Spectrum Sharing, Creating a Value Proposition for
Everyone
19. List all public statements you have made during the past ten
years, including statements in news articles and radio and podcasts and
television appearances, which are on topics relevant to the position
for which you have been nominated, including dates. Include a link to
each statement when possible. If a link is not available, provide a
digital copy of the statement when available. None.
20. List all digital platforms (including social media and other
digital content sites) on which you currently or have formerly operated
an account, regardless of whether or not the account was held in your
name or an alias. Include the full name of an ``alias'' or ``handle'',
including the complete URL and username with hyperlinks, you have used
on each of the named platforms. Indicate whether the account is active,
deleted, or dormant. Include a link to each account if possible.
X: @obritt3 https://x.com/obritt3 (active)
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-trusty-2b850398 (active)
Instagram: @obritttrust https://www.instagram.com/obritttrust/
(active)
Instagram: @obtrusty https://www.instagram.com/obtrusty/
(active)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/public/Olivia-Trusty/
(dormant)
21. Please identify each instance in which you have testified
orally or in writing before Congress in a governmental or non-
governmental capacity and specify the date, committee, and subject
matter of each testimony. None.
22. Given the current mission, major programs, and major
operational objectives of the department/agency/commission/corporation
to which you have been nominated, what in your background or employment
experience do you believe affirmatively qualifies you for appointment
to the position for which you have been nominated, and why do you wish
to serve in that position?
For nearly 20 years, I have had the opportunity to work on
telecommunications, technology, consumer protection, and national
security policy. Every employment experience I have had--which includes
over seven years in the private sector and over 11 years on Capitol
Hill--involved working on policy issues that are core to the FCC's
mission. If confirmed, I look forward to applying the knowledge and
skills I have gained throughout my professional career to advance the
availability of affordable, high-speed, reliable, and secure
communications services across the country.
I wish to serve at the FCC because I love this country and I have
seen the transformational impact that an Internet connection can have
on individuals, families, and communities. If confirmed, my efforts
would be dedicated to ensuring that every American has access to the
Internet and the opportunity to participate in the 21st Century
Internet economy.
23. What do you believe are your responsibilities, if confirmed, to
ensure that the department/agency/commission/corporation has proper
management and accounting controls, and what experience do you have in
managing a large organization?
If confirmed, my responsibility would be to carry out the FCC's
mission by making sure all Americans have access to communications
services. As part of this effort, I would focus on promoting
competition, innovation, and investment in U.S. communications
networks, while protecting consumers and strengthening network
security.
Managing an organization in the U.S. government--large or small--
requires strong leadership that is guided by advancing the public
interest and a commitment to the law. It also involves setting clear
goals, and fostering a culture of transparency and accountability. A
willingness to engage with stakeholders of all different backgrounds
and perspectives is also critical to effective management and making
informed decisions. My management and leadership experiences on the
Senate Commerce Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee have
helped me to develop skills in each of these areas. They have also
helped me find ways to build consensus and identify common ground on
policy issues that can be highly technical and politically sensitive in
nature. Altogether, my professional background has prepared me to take
on more managerial responsibilities at the FCC, if I have the honor of
being confirmed.
24. What do you believe to be the top three challenges facing the
department/agency/commission/corporation, and why?
The top three challenges facing the FCC include the following:
Achieving universal connectivity. The cornerstone of the FCC's
mission is to make communications services available to all
Americans. With the future of the Universal Service Fund in
question, it is imperative that the FCC work with Congress to
restore predictability and sustainability to the FCC's ability
to foster and promote the delivery of affordable, high-speed,
and reliable Internet services to all Americans.
Strengthening network security. Nation states and malicious
cyber actors are targeting United States critical
infrastructure, including commercial telecommunications
networks, to degrade and disrupt America's economic stability
and national security. The FCC has a responsibility to work
with private industry and its Federal partners throughout the
U.S. government to strengthen the cyber defenses of
telecommunications networks against increasingly sophisticated
and hostile cyber threat actors.
Renewing the FCC's spectrum auction authority. Making spectrum
available for commercial use is vital to continued innovation
and economic prosperity in the United States, as well as
America's global leadership in next-generation communications
technologies. The ongoing lapse of the FCC's auction authority
severely constrains the Commission's ability to meet the
growing spectrum demands of the private sector, risking the
Nation's economic security and technological leadership abroad.
The FCC should work with Congress to renew the FCC's auction
authority immediately to reach our economic goals in the United
States and remain competitive in the global digital economy.
b. potential conflicts of interest
1. Describe all financial arrangements, deferred compensation
agreements, and other continuing dealings with business associates,
clients, or customers. Please include information related to retirement
accounts, such as a 401(k) or pension plan.
I have an Individual Retirement Account. I also have a Thrift
Savings Plan.
2. Do you have any commitments or agreements, formal or informal,
to maintain employment, affiliation, or practice with any business,
association, or other organization during your appointment? If so,
please explain. No.
3. Indicate any investments, obligations, liabilities, or other
relationships which could involve potential conflicts of interest in
the position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will
resolve each potential conflict of interest. None.
4. Describe any business relationship, dealing, or financial
transaction which you have had during the last ten years, whether for
yourself, on behalf of a client, or acting as an agent, that could in
any way constitute or result in a possible conflict of interest in the
position to which you have been nominated. Explain how you will resolve
each potential conflict of interest. None.
5. Identify any other potential conflicts of interest and explain
how you will resolve each potential conflict of interest. None.
6. Describe any activity during the past ten years, including the
names of clients represented, in which you have been engaged for the
purpose of directly or indirectly influencing the passage, defeat, or
modification of any legislation or affecting the administration and
execution of law or public policy.
I presently serve as a Professional Staff Member on the Senate
Committee on Armed Services. I previously served as a Policy Director
on the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. In
both positions, I have been asked for my thoughts on legislative
matters pending before Congress, and I have regularly advised Senate
offices on communications policy and legislation.
c. legal matters
1. Have you ever been disciplined or cited for a breach of ethics,
professional misconduct, or retaliation by, or been the subject of a
complaint to, any court, administrative agency, the Office of Special
Counsel, an Inspector General, professional association, disciplinary
committee, or other professional group? If yes:
No.
a. Provide the name of the court, agency, association, committee, or
group;
b. Provide the date the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or
personnel action was issued or initiated;
c. Describe the citation, disciplinary action, complaint, or
personnel action;
d. Provide the results of the citation, disciplinary action,
complaint, or personnel action.
2. Have you ever been investigated, arrested, charged, or held by
any Federal, State, or other law enforcement authority of any Federal,
State, county, municipal, or foreign government entity, other than for
a minor traffic offense? If so, please explain. No.
3. Have you or any business or nonprofit of which you are or were
an officer ever been involved as a party in an administrative agency
proceeding, criminal proceeding, or civil litigation? If so, please
explain. No.
4. Have you ever been convicted (including pleas of guilty or nolo
contendere) of any criminal violation other than a minor traffic
offense? If so, please explain. No.
5. Have you ever been accused, formally or informally, of sexual
assault, sexual harassment, or discrimination on the basis of sex,
race, religion, or any other basis? If so, please explain. No.
6. Please advise the Committee of any additional information,
favorable or unfavorable, which you feel should be disclosed in
connection with your nomination. None.
d. relationship with committee
1. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation complies with deadlines for information set by
congressional committees, and that your department/agency/commission/
corporation endeavors to timely comply with requests for information
from individual Members of Congress, including requests from members in
the minority? Yes.
2. Will you ensure that your department/agency/commission/
corporation does whatever it can to protect congressional witnesses and
whistleblowers from reprisal for their testimony and disclosures? Yes.
3. Will you cooperate in providing the Committee with requested
witnesses, including technical experts and career employees, with
firsthand knowledge of matters of interest to the Committee? Yes.
4. Are you willing to appear and testify before any duly
constituted committee of the Congress on such occasions as you may be
reasonably requested to do so? Yes.
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The Chairman. Thank you to you both. Thank you to you both.
All right, Mr. Isaacman, let us start. If you are
confirmed, you will oversee NASA's various field centers,
mission directives, and affiliated activities. This includes
Artemis and the Moon-to-Mars Program, which aims to keep us one
step ahead of nations like China in the fight for supremacy in
space.
The threat from China is very real. Just last week, General
Saltzman, Chief of Space Operations for the Space Force,
testified before the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review
Commission that Beijing has been explicit as recently as
October of last year, in stating that China intends to surpass
the United States and become the world's preeminent space
power.
As General Saltzman put it, ``China's advancement in space
technology, their stated desire to dominate, and Beijing's
disregard for international norms for the responsible use of
space make them an incredible danger to U.S. prosperity and
security. China has said that they will put a man on the Moon
by 2030, and that they will build a permanent lunar base there,
along with Russia, by 2035.''
Based on how quickly they have already progressed, I think
it is quite possible that China reaches those milestones sooner
than those dates, and indeed that China reaches the Moon before
the end of President Trump's current term.
Mr. Isaacman, if China beats us to the Moon, what
consequences might America face?
Mr. Isaacman. Mr. Chairman, I really appreciate that
question, and I could not agree more with all of your
commentary, sir, including in your opening remarks. We
certainly cannot lose. If we do not lead the way and we are
following, we may be following forever, and the consequence of
which could be extraordinary.
I mean, even if you are talking about things that have
maybe even a low probability, let us say, for example, on the
lunar surface, helium-3 becomes a new source of fusion power,
it could shift the balance of power here on Earth. I do not
think we can afford to find that out the hard way.
As you said, sir, and I have agreed for a very long time,
space is the ultimate high ground. We cannot afford to cede
that ground.
The Chairman. So my team did a visual representation of
what the stakes are, and it is a simple question, what does the
future look like in 2030? Now, I will note that my team used
ChatGPT to make this poster, and my immediate comment on seeing
it is the American flag is too damn small, and I was told it
was difficult to get a bigger American flag on AI. That may be
underscoring the need to win the race for AI as well, but it
does give a sense of exactly what the choices we are facing
now.
When we met in my office, you said beating China back to
the Moon was, ``critical for our national interests''. You also
said that if President Trump turns on the television and sees
Chinese astronauts on the surface of the Moon before Americans,
you said you would be fired that day. In your written
testimony, however, you said quote, ``We will prioritize
sending American astronauts to Mars.'' There seems to be a bit
of tension between the commitment you made in my office and
your testimony.
What is your view? Will you maintain course with the
Artemis program so that we can return American astronauts to
the Moon before President Trump leaves office?
Mr. Isaacman. Mr. Chairman, I really, I really appreciate
the statement. First, I could not agree more with the President
and his inspiring and ambitious goal to send American
astronauts to plant the stars and stripes on Mars. He did not
say we should not go to the Moon. I suspect the President, as I
feel and probably a lot of Americans is, is what is taking us
so long to get back to the Moon and why does it cost so much
money?
I absolutely want to see us return to the Moon. As I
mentioned in my prepared remarks, determine the economic,
scientific and national security value, while we are also
proceeding toward Mars. I do not think we have to make any
tough trades here, Senator. I think if we can concentrate our
resources as the world's greatest space agency, we do not have
to make a binary decision of Moon versus Mars, or Moon has to
come first versus Mars, I think we could be paralleling these
efforts and doing the near impossible, which is exactly why the
American taxpayers funded NASA in the first place.
The Chairman. Well, I will say on the question of whether
NASA has to implement Moon then Mars, United States law is
explicit non-equivocal on that. 51 U.S.C. Section 20302, which
Senator Cantwell and I wrote, says, ``The vision for space
exploration, the administrator shall establish a program to
develop a sustained human presence in cislunar space or on the
Moon as a stepping stone to future exploration of Mars and
other destinations.'' The notion of the Moon as a stepping
stone is explicitly in U.S. law. Do you acknowledge that?
Mr. Isaacman. Yes, I do, Senator.
The Chairman. And let me ask you, given the current NASA
budget, if we assume for a moment we are not going to see a
dramatic shift and NASA's budget double tomorrow, do you
believe it is possible to stand up a full mission to the Moon
and a full mission to the Mars simultaneously?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, as I mentioned my prepared remarks,
I think we can absolutely do that. We can figure out the space
economy in low Earth orbit. We can run more scientific
missions. This is the Agency that went from sending Alan
Shepard on a suborbital mission, and 8 years later we saw Neil
Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the surface of the Moon. Do I
think that we can get back to the Moon, chart a course for Mars
and do all the other things; absolutely, Senator.
The Chairman. So do we have your commitment that you will
not allow the scenario on the right on this poster to happen,
that China will not beat us to the Moon, that one of these
heroes sitting in this room will set his or her, and as a
father of two daughters I am particularly excited that Artemis
has committed, it will be a ``her'', the first woman will step
foot on the Moon and she will be an American astronaut. Do we
have your commitment that we will win the race to the Moon and
China will not beat us?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I only see the left-hand portion of
that poster.
The Chairman. And next time we will make the American flag
bigger.
Senator Cantwell.
Senator Wicker. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent that
the poster be placed in the record.
The Chairman. An excellent idea.
Senator Cantwell. I do agree.
The Chairman. And a Chairman who is crossing his T's and
dotting his I's would have done so already; without objection.
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The Chairman. Senator Cantwell.
Senator Cantwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And continuing
on this same point; listen, I have no doubt of your
capabilities at the technical side of this and the expertise
both on the aviation and the space side. It is a question, I
think, of a long-term challenge of different administrations to
deliver on this goal and how each administration and each
Congress does or doesn't support it. So I view your job as like
wrangling the powers that be to support the mission and
understand what it is going to take to support the mission.
So like Senator Cruz, I want to understand a little bit
more about your commitments. The most recent Economic Impact
Report highlighted that in Fiscal Year 2023, NASA projects to
generate more than $75 billion in economic output. And the
National Academy Studies chaired by Norm Augustine found that
NASA's budget office is often incompatible with the scope,
complexity, and difficulty of its mission work. That means that
we end up shortchanging it to certain degrees.
So I want to make sure I understand what your commitment is
because there is been so much in the press. Do you commit not
to closing any of the NASA's ten centers or divesting from
critical infrastructure without the expressed authorization of
Congress?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, you absolutely have my commitment to
work alongside Congress. I think NASA is going to require the
best and brightest from across the Nation in all of our
critical infrastructure in order to achieve its mission to do
the near impossible for all humankind.
Senator Cantwell. Do you see any reason to close these ten
centers?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, there is only so much that I can be
briefed on in advance of this opportunity. I fully expect to
roll up my sleeves and determine where all of our best
resources are so we can get back to achieving the mission as
quickly as possible.
Senator Cantwell. The 2024 National Academy's Report noted
that the use of service and firm fixed-price contracts at early
stage of technology development can jeopardize mission success
and degrade NASA's own in-house technical capabilities. What
are your thoughts about these fixed-term contracts?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, as some----
Senator Cantwell. Do you agree with that statement? I
guess, do you agree with that statement? They can be
deleterious. I am just asking if you agree with that.
Mr. Isaacman. I take two things away from that, Senator.
First, having run a defense aerospace company for more than a
decade, and generally I am a fan of fixed-firm price contracts
and being held accountable to what we did. In terms of the
difference between NASA's in-house expertise and what
commercial industry is able to provide, I believe NASA should
be working, again, per my prepared remarks, on the near
impossible, what no one else is capable of doing, and when they
figure it out, commercial industry takes over and brings the
rest of the world to follow.
Senator Cantwell. You might be one heck of an entrepreneur
in relation to science. You said you are not a scientist. But
that won't matter if we make very bad decisions based on
somebody's arbitrary budget analysis instead of what is our
long-term mission. So that is what we are trying to get out of
you. How do you think we are going to accomplish this so that
we have a more--listen, the more we can explain this to
everybody, I guarantee you the more my colleagues will support
it in a budget.
The more it gets slashed and burned by different
approaches, by DOGE, the more harmful it can become to people
undermining the support for the mission overall. So you have a
big challenge here. It is to move us forward at a critical
moment.
So do you believe that we should have a reduction in
workforce, or the science budget, some of the things that I
mentioned in my opening statement?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I read what is on NASA Watch and in
the news like everybody else. If I am confirmed, I am eager to
understand all of the considerations, the discussions being
made about a reorganization, I believe that we are going to
need the best and brightest to do the near impossible, and we
should be concentrating all of our resources on the most
critical objectives that I kind of outlined in my opening
remarks, ma'am.
Senator Cantwell. Do you support the continued Artemis
Mission with the Space Launch System?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I believe that is currently the
plan. I would like nothing more than to see this Artemis II
crew get around the Moon, and then they are back at home
watching their friends walk on the Moon. I think the real
question is, again: Why has it taken so long? Why does it cost
so much money?
Senator Cantwell. But in the issue of: Are we going to
commit to this? I think this and the Lander Redundancy are kind
of like--people see that as a: We are going to the Moon and we
are going to get this done. Not this discussion of like, we are
going to skip these things, short change this, and then we are
going to focus on Mars in a different route. That is what I am
trying to get from you.
Whether when you get there, I get that you are saying it is
the current plan. I am asking as a nominee to run this
organization, do you have a different view of that, that you
think right now, yes, there is a different way to do this?
Mr. Isaacman. Ma'am, I can tell you not just as a nominee,
but as a space enthusiast who wants my daughters to see
American astronauts walking on the Moon, it was the left-hand
side of that poster that I am fully supportive of. I would like
nothing more than to see Artemis II get around the Moon, and
again see Americans walking on the Moon. And again, I do not
think these are either/or. I mean, NASA is an extraordinary
Agency that can do the near impossible. We can chart a course
for Mars in line with the President's vision to return to the
Moon before the Chinese can get there to figure out the space
economy and do the other things, ma'am.
Senator Cantwell. There is a lot here. The HiCAM program on
thermoplastic composites, do you support that program at NASA?
Mr. Isaacman. I think NASA has the best, brightest, most
talented engineers and scientists and we should be working on
cutting-edge technology.
Senator Cantwell. OK. I will want for the record whether
you support that in, you know, clarity, not just like, hey, I
like cutting-edge technology. These are really big decisions
that lots of us have already weighed in on, and we just want to
know whether they are going to get slashed someday because the
President wakes up and says he does not want to do it, and
whether you are going to say yes, yes, go ahead? So this, it
will take all of us working together.
Ms. Trusty, I do not want you to keep going--ignored
through the conversation. My time has expired. I will want to
come back to you on the MVD, the broadcasters getting more
ability in the marketplace, particularly as I mentioned
earlier, you want a vibrant news competition, particularly when
it comes to local journalism, reopening that case at the FCC.
But I will take that for coming back on a second round.
And I love that, Senator Wicker thinks that you play chess
instead of checkers because we need a lot more chess playing at
the FCC. Thank you.
The Chairman. Grand Master Wicker.
[Laughter.]
Senator Wicker. Also, you can go out and shoot skeet and
then come back and play chess. But thank you very much.
Well, let me direct my first question to Mr. Isaacman. You
probably know that NASA has eight field centers, one of which
is the John C. Stennis Space Center in Mississippi. The Stennis
Space Center is home to NASA's largest rocket propulsion test
site. If we did not have that, we would have to build another
one. The Stennis Space Center also hosts a number of companies
working on commercial space programs; the Space Center's
infrastructure represents substantial government investment as
well as private investments.
So the day after you are confirmed and sworn in, will you
come to visit me in Mississippi at the Stennis Space Center?
Mr. Isaacman. I will get there as soon as I possibly can,
Senator.
Senator Wicker. All right. Well, I think that is a fair
answer.
Now, Ms. Trusty, let us talk about the plan for Broadband
Bill, we finally got that reported a few weeks ago, and you
worked with members of this committee, even as a staff member
for the Armed Services Committee, in getting some compromised
language on the Plan for Broadband Act. Do we need it, and what
accommodations did we make to get everybody on the same page?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, thank you so much.
Senator Wicker. You can take about a minute and a half.
Ms. Trusty. OK. Thank you so much for the question. Thank
you for your leadership on this issue. You know, interagency
coordination is essential to closing the digital divide. I
think as many members on this committee know, there are about
130 broadband programs across 15 different agencies, and GAO
has determined that those programs are fragmented and
duplicative.
And there is an opportunity to streamline, consolidate, and
coalesce these programs so that the resources are better
targeted to unserved areas so that we can get communication
services to more rural, remote areas that lack connectivity
right now, and expand and close the digital divide--or just
close the digital divide, not expand it.
And so I think the Plan for Broadband Act is the key to the
solution, it creates a strategy that will help us to target
these resources better to unserved communities so that
everybody can fully participate in the global digital economy.
Senator Wicker. And we had to accommodate high-cost areas,
tribal areas, and also do some compromising on the spending
cap. So I do appreciate that.
Let me ask then in the last two minutes, during COVID-19,
the broadband across Europe suffered several disruptions. Did
we have that kind of disruption in the United States, or was
there a difference, and why do you think things may have turned
out differently in Europe as opposed to here in the United
States?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you so much, Senator. I appreciate this
question. You know, I think the reason why we did not face the
same issues here during the COVID pandemic as it relates to our
Internet networks, is because competition and innovation, a
light-touch regulatory framework we saw worked really well. We
just have not seen the predicted harms materialize in the
absence of more prescriptive legacy regulations.
And so under your leadership, when I was on this committee,
to ensure consumers were protected, even if competition and
innovation fail, you set up a Bipartisan Net Neutrality Working
Group to put together bipartisan legislation to ensure that
consumers were protected regardless, but that we had a modern
framework. I thought that was a great example of how to move
forward with our next-generation networks, and ensure that
consumers continued to have access to critical connectivity
services.
Senator Wicker. Has there been any throttling or blocking
in the United States in recent years?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, I am not aware of any of the predicted
harms materializing that were projected during this debate a
couple of years ago.
Senator Wicker. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Kim.
STATEMENT OF HON. ANDY KIM,
U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW JERSEY
Senator Kim. Yes, thank you, Chair.
Mr. Isaacman, I would just like to start with you. I guess
I just wanted a little more clarity about, are you committed to
having a permanent presence on the Moon?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I think the biggest thing is we need
to get back there. It has been taking a very long time and the
American taxpayers have invested an awful lot.
Senator Kim. I agree with you on that front. I think we can
take that for granted between me and you, but I guess I wanted
to get a sense because, you know, the Chairman laid this out
actually, and then the poster that he had was not just about
getting back to the Moon, but it was about sustaining a
presence on the Moon. And I just feel like I do not have a good
understanding of what your actual position is right now on
that.
Mr. Isaacman. Well, I think, Senator, again, the first step
to me is to return to the Moon and determine its economic, its
scientific, and its national security value for remaining
there.
Senator Kim. Yes. I saw that in your statement. And I
guess, again, I was confused, because in your response to the
Chairman, you were talking about how Helium-3, this is
something that could very well shift the balance of power
within the--you know, here on Earth. What else are you looking
at? Like what else is in your mind right now beyond Helium-3
and the impacts there when you are talking about scientific,
economic, and national security?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, I mean, that is what we need
to get there to find out. You know, all the best science
fiction movies out there have something like Helium-3 as the
economic justification for an enduring presence, not just on
the Moon, but throughout, you know, space exploration.
Senator Kim. So I guess, you know, kind of as we have been
talking about this, you know, Moon, Mars, two priorities, you
were much more definitive about saying we need to get to Mars.
So I guess I just want to ask you that same question. What are
the scientific, economic, and national security priorities that
you see more clearly when it comes to going to Mars right now
than in terms of having a permanent presence on the Moon?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, to be clear, I certainly hope
in the future that we have lots of space stations, a full lunar
outpost, a Mars outpost, and we are pushing even beyond that. I
am just saying we need to get back to the Moon. We need to
figure out why we need to be there, and I certainly hope there
is a reason.
Senator Kim. Why do we need to be--what I am trying to get
a sense of, you seem much more definitive about saying we need
to get to Mars and putting resources toward that effort. What
are the specific economic, scientific, and national security
interests you see there? Because I get a sense that you have
some greater clarity there than you do when it comes to the
Moon.
Mr. Isaacman. Well, I would actually hope you are getting a
sincere answer from me that we should be doing both and the
other things. Now Mars----
Senator Kim. Do you think we can do both Moon and Mars on
the current NASA budget?
Mr. Isaacman. I sure hope so. And NASA was built to do the
near impossible and have a thriving space economy in low Earth
orbit and continue extraordinary science missions to kind of
unlock the secrets of the universe, sir.
Senator Kim. Well, I guess I just want to reinforce what
the Chairman said. I mean, I think we need to have much more
clarity in how we are talking about, what is our objectives
when it comes to the Moon? As mentioned, we have a lot more
clarity about what China's objectives are, and I hope that that
is something that you can clarify quickly if you are confirmed.
When it comes to the International Space Station, what is
your perceived timeline there in terms of when we should be
starting to bring that down?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, first of all, I do not know of
any reason why we should be bringing it down before what is
currently scheduled. What I do think we need to do is maximize
its remaining life, get as much of the high potential science
and research to the station, figure out what that space economy
is so when the day does come to hand it off to the commercial
LEO destinations, they are in a financially self-sustaining
type way.
Senator Kim. And you talked about that in terms of the
space economy. In terms of what should succeed the
International Space Station, do you believe that that should be
commercial only, or do you see prospects of the U.S.
Government, or a government-run space station to succeed the
International Space Station?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, right now, Senator, if we do not figure
out the space economy, whether it is commercially operated or
not, it is going to be entirely financially sustained by the
Government.
Senator Kim. So I guess I am asking what is your--do you
have a preference, in terms of do you see a sense of need for a
government-run--I guess I am just trying to ask you, what is it
that NASA can do that commercial efforts cannot do?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, I mean, that is a fantastic question,
Senator. I mean, the line should be drawn, again, in terms of
NASA undertaking the near-impossible challenges that, again, no
company, organization, or agency anywhere in the world would be
able to undertake it. I gave a very good example, I think, in
my opening remarks on nuclear propulsion; that is something
that no company would ever embark upon. There is no obvious
economic return, there are regulatory challenges. That is
exactly the kind of thing that NASA should be concentrating its
resources on.
Senator Kim. The last thing I just want to say here, and I
know I am running out of time, I am really hard to see. I think
we are all very proud of the astronauts that are here in this
room. But I think I could speak for them and say, look, we also
recognize the importance of the civil servants playing so many
different roles for the safety and the innovation that is out
there.
As I expressed to you, I am concerned about how this
administration has approached what I believe are indiscriminate
cuts at different--and firings at different departments and
agencies. And if you are confirmed, I hope that you stand up
against indiscriminate cuts. I think we are all very--
recognizing that there are places for efficiencies and
elsewhere. But we need to make sure that we are protecting the
expertise that is out there.
And with that, I will yield back.
The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Fischer.
STATEMENT OF HON. DEB FISCHER,
U.S. SENATOR FROM NEBRASKA
Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to
our two nominees today for your commitment to public service.
Ms. Trusty, I appreciated meeting with you to learn more
about your experience and your goals if you are confirmed as a
FCC Commissioner. And as you know, one of my top goals is to
maintain a steady and predictable Universal Service Fund.
Congress' intent has been clear, we must keep all Americans
connected. I also look forward to co-chairing the Universal
Service Fund Working Group with Senator Lujan to advance this
priority.
Ms. Trusty, how do you view the Universal Service Fund and
its mission to Universal Service?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you so much for the question, Senator,
and thank you for the time. It was great to meet with you and
discuss your priorities.
The Universal Service is the cornerstone of the FCC's
mission. The Universal Service Fund itself has connected
millions of Americans across the country. As you know, there is
somewhat of an uncertain future with the Universal Service Fund
as there is a constitutional challenge before the Supreme
Court, and the contribution base is shrinking as more Americans
shift to internet-based communications.
And so I think it is incumbent upon the FCC to work closely
with Congress and interested stakeholders to identify a
specific, predictable, and sufficient form of support as
required in the Communications Act to continue meeting the
needs of Americans across the country.
Senator Fischer. Thank you. From my experience serving on
this committee and also on Armed Services Committee, I
appreciate the differing cultures, missions, and priorities of
the various Spectrum stakeholders, and I have seen the
consequences when they conflict. I worry that Federal missions,
including national security, can be undermined because of these
frictions, particularly when collaboration among stakeholders
is strained and consensus cannot be reached.
Ms. Trusty, what do you think the appropriate role is for
the FCC and its engagement with the Department of Defense?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. And I appreciate this
question because I know this is such an important topic and a
sensitive one, too. So you know, as you have noted, I have
worked on both the Armed Services and Commerce Committees, both
great experiences. During my time on the Armed Services
Committee, I have certainly developed a greater appreciation
for DOD's national security mission and how critical Spectrum
is in carrying out that mission.
I also know from my time on the Commerce Committee that
Spectrum is the lifeblood of wireless communications. It is
essential to meeting our economic objectives, both domestically
and abroad. And so I think given these two experiences, I can
certainly help find solutions where there is common ground,
where we do not have to sacrifice our Spectrum for warfighting
needs, but we can also create opportunities to repurpose
Spectrum for commercial use.
And I think the way to do that, frankly, is to have
everybody in the same room at the same time hearing the same
things. Otherwise, I think there is a lot of information that
gets lost in translation, contributing to further misalignment
on Spectrum policy. When we are all together, it can further
promote transparency and accountability in these processes.
Senator Fischer. Well, how do you think this dialogue can
become more constructive? Do you have any suggestions on how to
do that? As a member of the staff on the Armed Services
Committee, you had access to classified briefings that others
do not have access to. So you have a fuller understanding of
what is at stake here. So how can we have a constructive
dialogue?
Ms. Trusty. Well, Senator, I think that is the issue. You
know, when I was on the Commerce Committee, I did not have a
full clearance, and so I was not privy to many of DOD's assets
and capabilities. But when I was on the Armed Services
Committee, I had a clearance and could understand better, or to
a better degree, why some of the assets and systems were so
essential. I will say, though, I think we have to find a way to
accommodate both our national security and economic security
interests. I worry that if either side of this debate fails,
then our global competitors win, and I think that would have a
devastating consequence to our economic and national security.
Senator Fischer. And I think we are beginning to achieve
that, this way forward.
Ms. Trusty. Yes, ma'am.
Senator Fischer. Looking at the international role on
telecommunications, how can a more unified position among
Federal agencies boost the United States' global leadership?
How can we ensure that national security perspectives are
included in an overall position that we have for this country?
Ms. Trusty. Absolutely, Senator. Thank you for this. So I
had the opportunity to attend the last WRC in Dubai, and I
think the takeaway was that America did not put our best foot
forward because we did not have a unified approach to our
Spectrum policy. And so I think if we have a unified strategy
where we highlight key U.S. interests, whether with respect to
both our economic and national security, it gives us more time
and space to work with our international partners and allies to
develop coalitions where they have a lot of similar interests.
And going into it that way, we can preempt those who are
attempting to undermine U.S. values, among other things.
Senator Fischer. And if confirmed as an FCC Commissioner,
the Commission, as a whole, would definitely have a leadership
role in that process, correct?
Ms. Trusty. Absolutely. So the Department of State
typically runs the WRC process, but NTIA and the FCC certainly
contribute to that.
Senator Fischer. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Klobuchar.
STATEMENT OF HON. AMY KLOBUCHAR,
U.S. SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA
Senator Klobuchar. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to both
of you for being here. You win the prize as the best name for a
nominee, Ms. Trusty.
So I just wanted to have one follow up from Senator
Fischer's questions, because I care a lot about Universal
Service. Senator Thune and I have worked a lot on that
together. How do you think the FCC should modernize the USF to
ensure its long-term sustainability?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you for the question, Senator. You know,
I know that there are a number of proposals on the table,
whether it comes from identifying a specific predictable or
sufficient funding resource to ensure the Universal Service
Fund can continue to meet connectivity needs across the
country. There are proposals about a Federal appropriation or
looking to other private sector entities to contribute to the
contribution base.
I think all of those things should be discussed between the
FCC and Congress to ensure we can continue meeting connectivity
needs across the country.
Senator Klobuchar. Thank you. As you know, I work with
Senator Wicker on the Data Act to improve the accuracy of the
FCC's broadband availability maps, but we know more work needs
to be done. If confirmed, how will you continue to work to
ensure the accuracy of the maps?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. So you know, I was on this
committee when the Broadband Data Act was passed with the goal
of making sure we knew where broadband is available, where it
is not, to better target resources to unserved areas. You know,
as a part of that law, there is an opportunity for a challenge
process where folks can challenge the accuracy of the data,
which I think can help improve the accuracy of the maps.
I also think the FCC should work with private sector
stakeholders who produce their own maps to inform the accuracy
of the maps so that we can better target resources to areas who
remain unserved, or remain--yes, remain unserved.
Senator Klobuchar. OK, very good. Thank you. And as you
know, I care a lot about getting the broadband funding out. We
have talked to a number of nominees about that. I will ask you
a question in writing on 9-1-1.
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator.
Senator Klobuchar. So thank you.
Mr. Isaacman, welcome. We had a good talk over the phone. I
mentioned STEM was really important to me. I was looking back--
in 2017, President Trump signed into law, and I remember
because Senator Fischer called me from the White House, she was
there, and she said, ``What is this bill of yours he is signing
into law?'' because she happened to be there. And they did an
event.
So it was a bill authorizing the NASA Administrator to
encourage women to study STEM--it is called the INSPIRE Women
Act and pursue careers in aerospace. Could you talk about
promoting the STEM workforce, and then your role if confirmed
as NASA administrator, how you can inspire more people to go
into STEM in general? I'm just coming off the robotics
competition in Minnesota on Saturday. Thank you. I was there.
Mr. Isaacman. Understood, Senator. First step is I am still
working on getting my two daughters to want to grow up and
enter a sphere--enter into the STEM fields. I have tried with
space flight and I will get there. I would love to answer that
really in two parts. I think the first thing is, first it is a
fundamental obligation of NASA to inspire the next generation
to want to be scientists, engineers, astronauts, pilots,
doctors, researchers, and I think the best way NASA can do that
is by executing on its mission.
I mean, that is what is going to have children want to
dress up as astronauts and scientists for Halloween, is to get
back to the Moon, to get to Mars and to inspire the world with
whatever the replacement is someday for James Webb that gives
us a hundred times the resolution.
The second part, ma'am, is what I mentioned in my opening
remarks about NASA being a force multiplier for science. Once
we inspire them in their youth to want to grow up and join this
grand endeavor, we want to get them hands-on in their various
academic institutions.
I think NASA can lend its expertise, its talent, its bulk
buying of rockets, its standard bus architecture, and get
academic institutions to want to contribute, whether it is
building probes, or sensors, get them hands-on so when they
graduate they want to join the greatest space agency in the
world.
Senator Klobuchar. Very good. You know, I think not just
with space but also with medical developments right now because
of a combination of mapping of the human genome, home of the
Mayo Clinic, Minnesota, as well as the potential of AI to do
good when it comes to things like rare diseases. We are just on
this cusp of scientific development kind of bursting out. I do
get concerned about some of these cuts to science-based
research and agencies across the government, not just space
related. Will you be an advocate for science within the
administration?
Mr. Isaacman. Yes, ma'am. I do believe the President is
looking to usher in a golden age of science and discovery.
Personally, I just spent a few days ago with 50--40 different
science and researchers sharing the results from my most recent
mission to space. I am passionate about science. I would love
nothing more than to continue to see NASA go out and try and
unlock the secrets of the universe.
Senator Klobuchar. Thank you.
Senator Moreno [now presiding]. Phenomenal plugs for
Minnesota in that questioning.
Senator Klobuchar. I always find a way. You will learn that
soon, Mr. Moreno.
Senator Moreno. So, Senator Moran, see if you can top that
for Kansas.
STATEMENT OF HON. JERRY MORAN,
U.S. SENATOR FROM KANSAS
Senator Moran. Well, that was not what I intended to talk
about, but I am happy to promote my state and have to,
certainly, to Mr. Isaacman. Wichita, in particular, the air
capital of the world, Wichita State, NIAR, and these
astronauts, when I had a conversation with them by phone, asked
me the question: Do you know that you have the greatest space
museum in the world in Kansas? To which I said, I know that, I
am just pleased that you know that. Can I tell the rest of the
world that you are saying those things? And so I thank you for
that opportunity, the Cosmosphere in Hutchinson, Kansas.
Ms. Trusty, let me start with you. I am pleased by your
nomination that President Trump has chosen to nominate you. I
appreciate the friendship you and I have had over a long period
of time of my office in Dirksen, and we have passed and had
conversations in the hall for a long time. I have great faith
in you.
Let me ask you these--well, on that topic, let me tell you
that it has been my disappointment over time to watch the FCC
become much more partisan and incapable of reaching decisions.
It has changed in the time that I have been in the Senate, as
the Senate has changed in the time that I have been in the
Senate, and I would encourage you to use every effort to find
ways, to find solutions to problems, and to bring the
Commission together to serve the American people. And I do not
know that I need to ask you, but I assume you would say that
you will do so?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, absolutely, Senator.
Senator Moran. Thank you. I want to mention just Spectrum
policy, as a couple of my colleagues have mentioned before.
Looking at Congress' options about authorities to the FCC, when
it comes to reauthorizing that Spectrum Auction Authority, what
would your recommendations be?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. I think this is very
important. So I would recommend that Congress restore auction
authority as quickly as possible. I think it can be a catalyst
to investment and innovation, particularly as it relates to
expanding broadband infrastructure across the country. I also
think it serves as a signal to the rest of the world about how
we are prioritizing our telecommunications policy and where we
are going.
This is underpinning every emerging application that we can
think of, artificial intelligence, quantum computing, and so
much more. And so I think by showing that we have confidence in
our regulatory processes and frameworks to have auction
authority restored to support that kind of innovation, I think
that will go a long way.
Senator Moran. Ms. Trusty, media ownership is back in the
news again. Do you believe it is important for the FCC to rid
us of the rules that are no longer necessary or inhibit
competition that currently exist in media ownership rules?
Ms. Trusty. I appreciate the question, Senator. I
definitely think we need a modern regulatory framework that
reflects the realities of today's video and media marketplace.
As you know, the media marketplace has changed dramatically
over the last two decades, driven largely by technology
advancements and changes in consumer preferences.
Consumers have access to all sorts of things, your
traditional broadcast and cable, as well as live streaming
video and social media, all things that make for a great
personalized television viewing experience and things that I
think the FCC should continue to promote that allows
broadcasters to flexibly compete against technology companies
for ad revenues, consumer viewers, as well as programming.
Senator Moran. Ms. Trusty, that is particularly true in
rural America where the options are fewer than they used to be,
and local programming, is it difficult to task or accomplish.
So I encourage you to pursue those changes.
One more, BEAD implementation, one of things we are worried
about is the timing of the FCC's efforts in deploying broadband
funds when BEAD is yet uncompleted. Because one of the goals is
to make sure that we do not overbill, and that you are not both
providing dollars to the same opportunities to provide
broadband and Internet services.
So would you consider--how would you consider the FCC in
holding off moving forward on allocating 5G funding until BEAD
allocation decisions have been made in order to maximize the
efficiency of those 5G funds?
Ms. Trusty. I appreciate this question, Senator. This goes
to the heart of interagency coordination. I think the FCC and
NTIA need to be in constant contact about where BEAD is going,
when it is going, so that we can be better stewards of taxpayer
dollars, target funds to unserved areas, ensure that there is
no duplication or overbuilding, as you mentioned, and there
could be a possibility where BEAD infrastructure could be
leveraged for USF funds or vice versa.
But I think this all goes to interagency coordination and
making sure we are the best stewards of taxpayer dollars. So
you have my commitment that I would do that, Senator, if
confirmed.
Senator Moran. Thank you.
Mr. Isaacman, let me tell you that I now have concern about
your leadership capabilities. While you were indicating that
you were working on getting your daughters to pursue STEM
education, both of them were shaking their heads this way.
[Laughter.]
Senator Moran. I hope you can fare better at NASA.
Mr. Isaacman. We are going to fix this, Senator.
Senator Moran. In the short 12 seconds that I have left in
my time, I will ask, I guess, one question. Do you believe that
the current Artemis architecture featuring SLS Rocket or Orion
Spacecraft is the best and fastest way to beat China to the
Moon?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, this is the current plan. I do
believe it is the best and fastest way to get there. I do not
think it is the long-term way to get to and from the Moon and
to Mars with great frequency. But this is the plan we have now
and we have got to get this crew around the Moon and the
follow-on crew to land on the Moon.
Senator Moran. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Senator Moreno. I now recognize Senator from Michigan, Gary
Peters.
STATEMENT OF HON. GARY PETERS,
U.S. SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN
Senator Peters. Thank you, Senator. Congratulations to both
of our nominees here, on your nomination to these important
positions.
Mr. Isaacman, we had a great opportunity to talk yesterday
in my office about a variety of issues. Artemis came up
frequently as I know it has come up at the hearing frequently
as well, including Senator Moran in the previous question, and
you suggested here and there that NASA can pursue the Artemis
program, our mission to the Moon, and a potential Mars mission
in parallel tracks, is how you have been describing it.
I am concerned though about the possibility of achieving
that. While we expect budget cuts to NASA, we have already seen
cuts and somewhat significant cuts, I would argue, to staff at
NASA. So my question for you is do you agree that budget cuts
would undermine that vision that you are expressing?
Mr. Isaacman. Well Senator, I think right now NASA has a
pretty extraordinary budget. I believe it is close to every
Federal law enforcement agency combined times two. With that
budget and those resources available, I do believe we can do
the near impossible. I think we can have multiple flagship
scientific missions at once, which means we can have multiple
space exploration missions at once, and try and solve the space
economy in low Earth orbit, sir.
Senator Peters. Even with budget cuts, you will be able to
do that, and----
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, I am not familiar with what
the--what is potentially being contemplated, but I will
absolutely do the most with the resources available to try and
deliver on NASA's world-changing mission, sir.
Senator Peters. So given the--I think it is pretty clear we
are likely to see constrained budgets. How do you envision
speeding up our timeline for the Mars mission that you talked
about while also ensuring that Artemis is properly resourced
and protected from any future cuts that may come their way?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, I think across the board we
have to acknowledge, as I mentioned in our opening remarks, we
do have problems here. The President--presidents have called
for return to the Moon and a path to Mars since 1989. We spent
a lot of money and we have not gotten this crew around the
Moon, let alone landing on it. If I am confirmed, I absolutely
am going to roll up my sleeves and get in the trenches with the
best and brightest and figure out where we have our program
challenges, what is impeding progress, clear those obstacles
and get back to delivering on the mission.
If we can do that, then we are going to get the
inspirational side of NASA going, we are going to get the STEM
side growing, and the next generation is going to grow up and
want to reach even farther, sir.
Senator Peters. As you know, public private partnerships
between NASA and commercial space companies is a critical part
of space exploration efforts, you know that firsthand from your
flight to space twice with SpaceX. And I understand that you
have business ties with SpaceX previous to your nomination as
well.
My question for you, given the fact that Elon Musk serves
both as the CEO of SpaceX as well as--is a White House employee
and leader over DOGE, which has significant influence over
spending and contracts, at least that is what we have been
seeing, certainly in our meeting, I was happy to hear you say
to me that you are not beholden to Elon Musk in any way. So I
want to give you an opportunity to say that on the record, if I
may.
So first, have you had any communication, e-mails, text or
calls with Elon Musk regarding how your plan to manage NASA
since you were nominated?
Mr. Isaacman. Not at all, Senator.
Senator Peters. What steps will you take, if confirmed, to
ensure that he is not allowed undue influence, given the
extensive contracts that he has with NASA, to make sure that he
has no undue influence over the awarding or the implementation
of those contracts?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, I think, Senator, I absolutely want to
be clear. My loyalty is to this Nation, the Space Agency and
their world-changing mission. I have to imagine that in the
1960s, Administrator Webb would have taken phone calls and
welcomed the input from all the various contractors that were
contributing to the endeavor. But they are the contractors.
NASA is the customer. They work for us, not the other way
around, Senator.
Senator Peters. Very good. Ms. Trusty, you have a deep
history working on defense related Spectrum issues that are
absolutely critical, as you know, to our security apparatus.
However, agencies other than the DOD use Spectrum for key
public safety applications, and I believe that they need to be
protected as well.
One such band is 5.9, also known as the Auto Safety
Spectrum, which is overseen by the Department of
Transportation. This band allows for the deployment of safety
technologies, including cellular vehicle to everything
technology that certainly enables collision avoidance, freight
efficiency movements and a whole lot more. In 2020, some of the
Spectrum was allocated away from these auto safety purposes,
which in my mind will reduce roadway safety in the long term.
And I believe we cannot let that happen again.
I think my Senator from Ohio will agree that we have to
make sure auto safety is always put at the forefront of
considerations when it comes to the Spectrum. So my question to
you is, if confirmed, will you commit to protecting the
remaining Auto Safety Spectrum for roadway safety innovation
like the cellular vehicle to everything technology?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, thank you for this question and it is
really important to me. In my time in the House I worked
closely with NHTSA on vehicle safety issues. So I am very
familiar with the safe--the life saving potential of C-V2X, it
will be--and so I think as a--if confirmed, my responsibility
is to put Spectrum to its highest and best use, meaning
maximizing its economic and societal benefits.
When it comes to vehicle safety that will certainly be a
part of the information in the record, and I would be happy to
work with you to ensure that C-V2X can be deployed with the
resources it needs so it is readily available to all Americans.
Senator Peters. Well, I hope it is a priority and we'll--if
confirmed we will work closely with you.
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator.
Senator Moreno. Senator Blackburn.
STATEMENT OF HON. MARSHA BLACKBURN,
U.S. SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE
Senator Blackburn. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to
each of you for getting that testimony in and for being here
today. We appreciate it and appreciate the opportunity to visit
with you.
Mr. Isaacman, I was so pleased to hear you talk about
nuclear propulsion. We have Oak Ridge National Labs, we have
Arnold Air, which is the only place you can do hypersonic
testing, and of course, Huntsville and Marshall Space Flight is
very close to our Tennessee border. We have a lot of
Tennesseans that are there. So pleased to hear you put some
emphasis on that, we agree with you that emphasis needs to be
placed there.
But I want you to just give me a synopsis of what you think
is the most important area of competition as we look at what is
happening with China, with Russia, with great power
competition, what North Korea and Iran are doing?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, thank you very much for the
question. For starters, competition can work really well. I
think competition from a commercial perspective is doing great.
We have gone from a world where at one point in time the Nation
had a dependency on one launch provider, and foreign rocket
technology. Now, we have a very mature commercial industry with
several providers able to help us accelerate mass, and people
and astronauts into orbit.
Well, competition works well in the global stage as well,
ma'am, so long as we do not lose. And right now, I mean, that
could not be more important in the ultimate high ground of
space. I mean that is a critically important domain. NASA will
continue to press out, lead the way in that ultimate high
ground. But we are going to need our partners in the Department
of Defense, the Space Force, we are going need to be
collaborating and making sure they are watching out for us.
Senator Blackburn. Ms. Trusty, welcome. And I am so pleased
to see so many of your family members here to support you. And
to all of the--I guess it is nieces, and nephews that are here.
Ms. Trusty. That is right, and siblings, and friends.
Senator Blackburn. Just know she is really smart and she is
working hard. OK. We talked a little bit about spectrum and as
you know, it concerns me that 60 percent of our mid-band
spectrum is held by Federal agencies. Much of that is sitting
fallow, it is not being used. We cannot afford that. We are
commercializing only 5 percent of that.
So talk to me about the importance of NTIA conducting an
inventory, the importance of the FCC supporting an inventory,
the importance of Congress restoring the ability to have
spectrum auction authority?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator, for this question. So I
will start kind of from the first part about restoring auction
authority. As I mentioned previously, I think this is
incredibly important to our economic and national security. I
think auction authority serves as a catalyst to investment and
innovation, not just for broadband deployment across this
country, but for emerging technologies and applications that
will allow us to be a global leader in technological
innovation.
As far as supporting an inventory, I think an inventory
could be good. It tells us what spectrum is being used and how.
As you know, there may be some things that are classified or
sapped and they will not be available to the public. But
certainly members of the Committee could have access to that
information to make more informed decisions about spectrum
management. But I think we do need to have a full view of what
is available, what is being used, so that we can properly put
Spectrum to its highest and best use for economical----
Senator Blackburn. And maybe even share some of that
spectrum?
Ms. Trusty. Potentially, as the studies indicate. Yes,
ma'am.
Senator Blackburn. OK. Talk to me a little bit about USF. I
know Senator Fischer and Senator Klobuchar asked you about
that. And I think USF has outlived its usefulness and needs to
be replaced with something different. We will see what the
court has to say about it. So articulate reforms if they say
you can keep USF, and replacement if they say you cannot?
Ms. Trusty. Sure, Senator. I appreciate this question. So
Universal Service is the cornerstone of the FCC's mission. It
is a part of the Communications Act to advance and preserve
Universal Service generally as a concept and----
Senator Blackburn. Yes. I just want to know reforms. Yes.
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator. So there could be distribution
reforms, or contribution reforms, depending on what the facts
tell us. I think there is an opportunity to have performance
metrics for each of the programs to understand what the
efficacy is of each of those programs in addressing the needs.
There could be better oversight over eligibility requirements.
There could also be better oversight over participating
providers' compliance with those programs to ensure that those
dollars are being targeted to those who need them.
Senator Blackburn. Excellent. Thank you so much.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
I am going to send you one question on PAOLA.
Ms. Trusty. Yes, ma'am.
Senator Blackburn. Because that is so important to our
artists there in Tennessee. And to each of you, all the
children deserve ice cream. They have been awesome today.
[Laughter.]
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator.
The Chairman. I would ask, Senator Blackburn, is the ice
cream limited to the children?
Senator Blackburn. Senator Cruz, you showed up on time
today, so you, too, deserve ice cream.
[Laughter.]
Senator Blackburn. I will be certain that at lunch I serve
you ice cream.
The Chairman. I will take it. Senator Lujan.
STATEMENT OF HON. BEN RAY LUJAN,
U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO
Senator Lujan. It looks like I am joining you for lunch,
Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, thank you for this hearing today.
It is good to see you both here and with family support.
That means something. Ms. Trusty, in last month's Supreme Court
oral arguments in the USF case, the Solicitor General noted
that the FCC Commissioners do not have statutory for-cause
removal protections. In our meeting yesterday, you stated that
the issue of for-cause removal was subject to pending
litigation and that you would not weigh in.
Regardless, it appears that President Trump believes he can
fire you at-will when confirmed. How will you maintain your
independence if the President can fire you simply because he
may not like a position you take?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. I appreciate the question
and I understand the importance of the issue. My job, if
confirmed, is to focus on upholding and enforcing the law.
Whatever happens with what is subject to pending litigation, my
first obligation is to facts, the law, and with respect to the
proceeding that comes before the Commission, and that is--I
think the FCC has a very transparent and open process and my
commitment would be to making sure that I have--what I commit
to, I have no fear--without fear of favor, I would make a
decision with respect to any individual or entity that comes
before the Commission.
Senator Lujan. I appreciate that. Yesterday when we spoke,
I shared with you I was a former utility commissioner and the
importance of the training I received as an administrative law
judge. And while we may be able to gather information
elsewhere, it is the importance of the record. The decisions
that will be made that are in front of you will be based on the
record that is established. Is that something you agree with?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator.
Senator Lujan. I appreciate that. Ms. Trusty, as I shared
with you yesterday, I have also been very disturbed by the
actions taken by Chair Carr to investigate broadcast companies
for their editorial decisionmaking. In January, Chair Carr
reinstated complaints against ABC regarding its moderation of
the debate between Trump and Harris. Trump complained that the
debate was, quote, ``rigged'' and stated, ``They ought to take
away their licenses for the way they did that.'' Do you think
it is appropriate for the President to call for the revocation
of broadcast licenses?
Ms. Trusty. So Senator, I think President Trump has First
Amendment rights to express his views. My responsibility, if
confirmed, is to focus on the facts, FCC precedent and the law
in carrying out whatever the decisionmaking process is for
proceeding before the Commission.
Senator Lujan. As part of that, In March 2025, Chair Carr
gave an interview to Bloomberg News in which he said, ``any
business that are looking for FCC approval, I would encourage
them to get busy ending any sort of their invidious forms of
DEI discrimination.'' In addition, Chair Carr said that ``CBS
editorial decision regarding an interview with Vice President
Harris would factor into the review.'' My question to you is:
Do you think it is appropriate to consider a broadcaster's
editorial decisions when reviewing a merger?
Ms. Trusty. So Senator, with respect to mergers or
transactions, I would be--I would look at them through the lens
of what advances the public interest. As you know, these are
very fact-specific cases that require a thoughtful and thorough
review of information in the record, and I would be guided by
the statute.
Senator Lujan. Let me ask the question very clearly. Do you
believe that the FCC should be weaponized against media
organizations?
Ms. Trusty. No, Senator.
Senator Lujan. I appreciate that very much.
Now, Mr. Isaacman, I have many questions for you. I want to
be--I am always aware of my members'--my colleagues' time as
well. I am going to submit your questions to the record.
Ms. Trusty, I just want to conclude by sharing with you
that you have an ethical record. You have a strong reputation
on Capitol Hill, protect it. You have a bright future. We need
good Democrats, good Republicans. I do not agree with all your
positions, I do not agree with all my Democratic colleagues'
positions, but the FCC should be a strong independent body. We
need good people there. And I appreciate you being here today.
I yield back.
Senator Cantwell. Mr. Chairman, if I could, before we
continue. For the record, Senator Fetterman would like to be
recorded as an ``aye'' by proxy on the Roth nomination.
The Chairman. Without objection, the record will be
corrected to so reflect.
Senator Sullivan.
STATEMENT OF HON. DAN SULLIVAN,
U.S. SENATOR FROM ALASKA
Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And to our
nominees, congratulations, and thank you for willing to serve
your country and your families, great to see so many families
here.
Ms. Trusty, I want to make sure I get your commitment off
the bat to come to Alaska, see the many challenges we have in
Alaska. You can bring your whole family, we can do it during
the summer, go fishing, but I need you to get out to my state
and see the challenges, particularly as it relates to
communications, broadband, Internet connectivity. You know,
people talk about rural, and then there is Alaska, which is
just way more rural than everywhere else. Can I get your
commitment to do that?
Ms. Trusty. Absolutely, Senator.
Senator Sullivan. And you know, when the FCC commissioners
do that, they have all come to our state, they realize that in
terms of the FCC, there is really, really the need for
importance on embracing flexible policies as it relates to
Alaska. The FCC came up with The Alaska Plan, as I am sure you
are aware of, and then they have now referred to that as the
FCC's Alaska Connect Fund.
Will you commit to me to working with any--on any future
changes? There is a midpoint pause in 2029 relating to the
Alaska Connect pause that gives the FCC the opportunity to look
at different flexibilities there. Can I get your commitment to
work with me on both what was The Alaska Plan and now the
Alaska Connect Fund?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator, I would be happy to.
Senator Sullivan. That has strong bipartisan support over
the last several years in the FCC, pretty much all the
commissioners have supported it. Can I get your commitment on
that?
Ms. Trusty. Yes. Yes, Senator.
Senator Sullivan. Great. I am going to ask you a question
for the record on media ownership that I would like your
response on.
Mr. Isaacman, have you seen the movie ``The Martian''?
Mr. Isaacman. I have, Senator.
Senator Sullivan. OK. I have a--well, my daughters are
older now, but when I took them to see that, they were very
inspired. And you kind of have the Hollywood version, the live
version right here, with all these smart, good looking
astronauts in our hearing room today. Can you give me your
ideas on how to promote better through media, maybe even
through Hollywood, these upcoming missions to the Moon,
missions to Mars, to inspire our young people?
I think it is a really, really great opportunity. I do not
think NASA has always embraced that opportunity, but we have so
many exciting things on the horizon. And I mean it, when you
look at these astronauts and how smart they are, and how
inspiring they can be to young Americans to serve their
country, to study science. Give me your thoughts on that, and
what an opportunity we have to take advantage of that?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, I completely agree. And as I
mentioned before, I think it is a fundamental obligation of
NASA to inspire the next generation to want to grow up and be
scientists, engineers, astronauts, researchers, and set the bar
even higher. And I do believe the first step on that journey is
to execute on the mission.
I mean, nothing is going to create more future scientists
and engineers than seeing American astronauts on the Moon,
American astronauts on Mars, in line with President Trump's
vision, planting the stars and stripes on Mars.
So I do think that is a fundamental obligation. I think
that NASA right now we could do a better job, if confirmed, on
emphasizing quality, content over quantity. There is, I think,
about 300 different NASA social channels. They are awesome.
They put a lot of good things out. I think we can narrow that
down and make sure we are capturing the really inspirational
footage, what everybody wants to see that inspires them to grow
up and want to reach even higher.
Senator Sullivan. Good. I think you will have strong
bipartisan support for doing that. I also want to get your
commitment, if confirmed, to come to Alaska?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, as a pilot, I have been fortunate to
fly around Alaska quite a bit. And I would point out on
aircraft that rolled off assembly lines in Wichita--I know
Senator Moran would like to hear that--I am looking forward to
returning.
Senator Sullivan. Good. Because as you know, and you have
helped pioneered commercial space flight, you know better than
most that the future of space access is not just Cape
Canaveral, or Vandenberg, it is increasingly spread across our
entire country, including places like Alaska. The specific
Spaceport Complex on Kodiak Island is the only high altitude,
polar-capable spaceport in the United States. There is rising
demand for facilities like that at Kodiak in terms of both
government and commercial launches. They have done both.
And I would love to take you out to Kodiak Island. Not just
to see the largest brown bears in the world, of which we have
thousands, but a really, really up and coming spaceport
complex. Have you ever spent time out at the Kodiak Spaceport
Complex?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I have been there. I did not see any
bears. I was looking and I would love to return, sir.
Senator Sullivan. OK. So you and I are going to return, and
we will get an eye on some bears, maybe do some fishing with
Ms. Trusty when she brings her family.
[Laughter.]
Senator Sullivan. But in all seriousness, that is a
spaceport complex that I think has enormous potential. Would
you agree with that?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I think that, as mentioned before,
space is the ultimate high ground. It is a vitally important
domain for national security. I frankly think we need more
spaceports. We have to always ensure our access to low Earth
orbit and ensure national security.
Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. And by the way, if anything, Senator Sullivan
is underselling the fishing in Alaska. It is phenomenal. It is
not quite as big a state as Texas, but it, but it has enormous
natural beauty.
Senator Sullivan. OK, Mr. Chairman, you do not want to do
the size stuff with me.
[Laughter.]
The Chairman. Senator Blunt Rochester; yet another massive
state.
STATEMENT OF HON. LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER,
U.S. SENATOR FROM DELAWARE
Senator Blunt Rochester. That is correct. That is correct,
Delaware. And we are, that is right, we are the first state
though. That is the important thing.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to Ranking Member Cantwell;
welcome Ms. Trusty, and Mr. Isaacman, and your families.
I would like to start my questions with Ms. Trusty. As an
avid tech person myself, I love this stuff. Based on
predictions, I have seen that 6G is coming sometime in the
early 2030s. And I have heard exciting things about how 6G
networks will be integrated with AI to enable better
connectivity. In the House, I was fortunate to lead bills on
immersive technology, and it really helped, helping us train
our workforce. AI literacy was one of the bills that I focused
on. And just the notion of being able to do things in real
time, real-time adaptive changes presents a lot of
opportunities, but it also presents challenges.
There were some issues that delayed the initial 5G rollout,
such as Huawei being used as a potential supplier,
infrastructure build out issues and more. And I view the 6G
rollout as a crucial step in our competition against China in
the national security realm as well as technology spaces.
Ms. Trusty, if confirmed, what specifically do you think
the FCC can do to ensure that the 6G rollout is smoother than
the 5G rollout was?
Ms. Trusty. Great. Thank you for the question and I really
agree with so much of what you said. I will start with
cybersecurity and making sure networks are deployed in a secure
way. And I applaud this committee on making sure the Rip and
Replace Fund was fully funded.
I have been interested to see the creation of the National
Security Council at the FCC. And I think that is an opportunity
for the FCC to leverage its authorities in the Secure and
Trusted Communications Networks Act to ban other high-risk
equipment and vendors from our Nation's communications
networks. I also think the FCC can promote the adoption of open
radio access network technology, which can help diversify and
strengthen our domestic supply chain so that we are not overly
reliant on one or two vendors. And I think it can help increase
security, competition, and ultimately reduce the cost of
providing these networks in the first place.
Senator Blunt Rochester. I am a big supporter as well on
strengthening our supply chains. We actually have a Cantwell,
Blackburn, Blunt Rochester Bill. I like to call those my
strange bedfellows bills where we come together on these issues
that we know are going to affect all of us. I want to also
discuss the potential security concerns about 6G, particularly
given, again, the flaws in 4G and 5G networks, such as a study
finding that 100 percent of 4G networks were susceptible to
denial of service attacks, and 5G being vulnerable to network
attacks. I know this is an easy one. So maybe it is a yes or
no. Will you prioritize cybersecurity for 6G networks?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator.
Senator Blunt Rochester. And what other potential measures
do you think the FCC can take to best secure 6G networks in
particular?
Ms. Trusty. You know, I think this, a lot of this can be
done through AI. I am really excited about the development of
the technology, and I think there are tremendous use cases in
not only detecting fraud and scams, but securing the network
itself. So if I am confirmed, I would look to leverage
artificial intelligence in these ways.
Senator Blunt Rochester. You kind of preempted my next
question, which deals with so many Americans. It is estimated
that around four million--or four billion robocalls are made
per month. In fact, Delaware, while we are the first state, I
do not like the fact that we are the first state in robocall
complaints. I think I probably received four of them while I
was sitting here. And there is now this AI-powered grandparent
scams.
Back when I was in the House, as I mentioned, some of the
legislation I introduced, but we had one on the Fraud and Scam
Reduction Act, to help tackle scams that target seniors. And I
encouraged the FCC--I am encouraged that they now cover AI
voice calls under the TCPA. And last year, now Chair Carr
supported requiring callers to disclose, upfront, to consumers
when they receive an AI-generated call. Do you support
requiring callers to disclose to consumers when it is an AI-
generated call?
Ms. Trusty. I certainly think that can be helpful in
protecting consumers from illegal robocallers, Senator.
Senator Blunt Rochester. And I will say consumer protection
is one of the areas that we are very much focused on. Should
you be confirmed, we would like to continue to work with you on
that.
And Mr. Isaacman, we had a very good conversation as well.
I will be submitting questions for the record because I respect
the Chairman's time. So I yield back.
The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Young.
STATEMENT OF HON. TODD YOUNG,
U.S. SENATOR FROM INDIANA
Senator Young. Well, thank you both for being here today.
Mr. Isaacson--Isaacman, rather, the U.S. economy, national
defense infrastructure, they all rely on satellites extensively
these days, for GPS, for weather, for communications purposes,
for surveillance, and much more. So a collision or a loss of
key satellites could result in even catastrophic national
security and economic costs. As you know, the TraCSS system,
Traffic Coordination System for Space was launched in 2024. It
is being developed to provide situational awareness data across
civil, military, and commercial sectors.
Mr. Isaacman, if confirmed, how would you ensure that NASA
coordinates with the Department of Commerce and DOD on space
situational awareness, and space traffic management efforts?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, thank you very much for the
question. This is a subject that I am pretty passionate about.
My two missions to space, the number one risk we faced was from
orbital debris. For starters, I think NASA absolutely will play
a role. As you know, this new frontier continues to open, and
ideally, we have lots of space stations, and lots of activity,
and a great, flourishing economic environment in space, I
believe all of the information that we can gather from our
assets on space debris should be funneled into a single mission
control that has the ultimate situational awareness.
But I have to say also, the biggest threat, Senator, is
what we cannot track, what is so tiny, the millimeter-size
objects at orbital velocity that can shred a satellite or a
spacecraft. And in that respect, we have to stop adding to the
problem.
The United States is very good at not adding to the
problem. I cannot say that is the same for some of our
geopolitical rivals, sir.
Senator Young. Maybe you could speak with a little more
specificity about the gravity of the problem. Paint the picture
for those who might be watching these proceedings about how
extensive this challenge has become. I will just let you take
it from there.
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, absolutely. A lot of people think of
whether it is a discarded second stage in orbit or a defunct
satellite as the problem. We know where they are, and we can
have trajectories that avoid them. The issue is the speck of
paint that falls off that satellite that is now traveling at
17,500 miles an hour and can collide with another object going
17,500 miles an hour.
I had an opportunity to visit the NASA facility, the White
Sands Missile Range, and see what a one- and two-millimeter
piece of aluminum does at near orbital velocities, and I can
tell you what it penetrates through is pretty--it is eye-
opening, to say the least.
It is an issue. We certainly need to do all we can to avoid
any sort of kinetic conflict in low Earth orbit, to stop adding
to the problem. Again, I think the United States does a
fantastic job at doing this. We need to work really hard to
make sure others, maybe less responsible actors do not add to
the problem.
Senator Young. Well, I would like to work with you on this
challenge, should you be confirmed, as I believe you will be.
So clearly, you are conversant in it, and it sounds like you
will be prioritizing this.
Ms. Trusty, the FCC's International Bureau Telecom and
Analysis Division, TAD, issues licenses to own and operate
submarine cables and associated landing stations in the United
States. Commercial undersea telecom cables carry approximately
99 percent of transoceanic digital communication, serving as a
physical backbone for our internet. Since 2022, Russia has
stepped up its attacks on this infrastructure. In 2023, Yi Peng
3, a Chinese tanker that had previously departed a Russian
port, cut two Baltic Sea cables.
You know, incidents like this we are reading about them on
a regular basis these days. Ms. Trusty, what steps is the FCC's
TAD Office taking to protect undersea cable infrastructure and
the sensitive data and information transmitted across undersea
cables every day?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I think
this is such an important issue. I focused a lot on it during
my time on the Armed Services Committee. This is such an
important part of our critical infrastructure, and I think we
need to do more to secure it. As you mentioned, the FCC works
closely with Team Telecom to review and approve undersea cable
applications. I think we can promote more transparency in our
foreign ownership in these undersea cables, so we have a better
sense of what the risk might be.
I also think we should try to promote more U.S.-led
undersea cable projects so that we can eliminate the risks
entirely. In addition to that, I think exploring the
diversification of undersea cable routes to ensure that there
is no single point of failure to the extent an undersea cable
is disrupted. But I think, as a protective measure, we should
work on strengthening our disaster recovery and emergency
response plans, given that some of these cables are so
vulnerable to exploitation.
If I am confirmed, Senator, this would be a priority of
mine.
Senator Young. My office will follow up with you on some of
your answers for further elaboration, but I do get the sense
you are very much dialed into this. I will just make one last
comment, knowing that we have colleagues waiting.
Setting standards, Ms. Trusty, at the FCC through
international governing bodies is increasingly important. I
think we have been outflanked over the years by the Chinese in
particular, but also by others. We need to develop a unified
position here at the Federal level between the FCC, and state,
and the NTIA, and various other entities so that we can
prioritize this moving forward. So we will follow up with a
question for the record about that as well.
Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Duckworth.
STATEMENT OF HON. TAMMY DUCKWORTH,
U.S. SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS
Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As Ranking
Member of the Aviation and Space Subcommittee, I am looking
forward to getting a bipartisan NASA reauthorization done to
make sure that NASA is able to execute its mission with a
consistent vision and congressional support, free of undue
influence from any temporary government employees.
According to the Global Counterspace Capabilities Report
published this month, the PRC is rapidly advancing a broad
spectrum of counterspace capabilities as part of a sustained
push to secure military power in orbit and expand their
presence in space. The PRC has also started building its second
satellite Internet constellation in low Earth orbit and has
committed to continued human presence in LEO at its Tiangong
space station.
More than ever, NASA's missions need to be consistent and
laser focused, and avoid major subversions of mission
priorities and diversion of funds, not only for our global
space leadership but also for our national security.
I am going to, Mr. Isaacman, ask you a couple of yes/no
questions, but first, I just want to say that a sustained human
presence in low Earth orbit is crucial for advancing scientific
research, testing technologies for future deep space missions,
and fostering a thriving economy and global leadership, as LEO
serves as a unique environment for research, development, and
training due to its microgravity environment.
By supporting extended human operations in LEO, NASA can
test exploration systems, conduct human research, and maintain
operational expertise vital for missions on the Moon and to
Mars. These are not things that can be done by machine alone,
and a gap in our human presence in LEO will likely result in
ceding our leadership to the PRC.
Mr. Isaacman, do you support maintaining continuous human
presence in low Earth orbit?
Mr. Isaacman. I do, Senator. I think if reusability has
given us anything, it is a very affordable path to send
American astronauts to and from low Earth orbit.
Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Elon Musk has suggested that
the International Space Station's strategic value has run its
course and should be deorbited as soon as possible to focus on
a mission to Mars. For the last--and that is quote, he said,
``As soon as possible.'' For the last 26 years, the strategic
value of the International Space Station has been invaluable,
serving as a beacon of the United States' global leadership and
a symbol of what we can accomplish through international
cooperation.
Funnily enough, although I do not think it is very funny at
all, SpaceX has been awarded the contract to deorbit the
International Space Station. Mr. Isaacman, do you believe there
is still utility in maintaining a U.S. presence on the ISS, at
least through 2030, as currently planned?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, as I mentioned in my prepared
remarks, I think we need to use up every bit of life that is
remaining on the International Space Station so we can crack
the code on the space economy and better hand off those
responsibilities to commercial industry. I am familiar with Mr.
Musk's remarks in that. I do think he is a very accomplished
entrepreneur. I would like to understand his rationale behind
that. Just as I think, you know, Administrator Webb would want
to hear from all of the commercial contract leaders from the
1960s during the space race.
Senator Duckworth. But you do not think that we should
deorbit the ISS now?
Mr. Isaacman. I do not think we should deorbit it now. I
think we need to make the most use of the space station while
we have it, and figure out what we can accomplish in the unique
environment of microgravity, and figure out the space economy
for Commercial LEO.
Senator Duckworth. Thank you. The Artemis program is
critical in our effort to return to the Moon, and returning to
the Moon is seen as a stepping stone for broader human
exploration, and critical for scientific discovery, advancing
technology, and as a necessary preparation for eventually
progressing to human missions to Mars. I know a few of my
colleagues already today have tried to get a specific answer
out of you, but you have avoided directly answering them today.
So I ask again.
Mr. Isaacman, do you support maintaining NASA's long-term
mission to maintaining--maintaining NASA's long-term mission to
maintain a human activity on the Moon?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, and I am sorry if I am not sounding
clear on this. I think it is imperative that we do both. I
think that is what NASA was created to do. I would love nothing
more than to see this crew get around the Moon, for us to land
on the Moon, figure out its scientific, economic, national
security value, while we are also charting a course in line
with President Trump's vision for American astronauts to plant
the stars and stripes on Mars.
Senator Duckworth. So you think we can do both
simultaneously?
Mr. Isaacman. I mean, we do multiple flagship scientific
missions at NASA. We maintain a presence in LEO where we are
undertaking dozens of scientific experiments at once. I think
we can, ma'am.
Senator Duckworth. Do you think we can maintain a mission--
a presence on the Moon and a mission to Mars simultaneously?
Mr. Isaacman. I think we can do the Moon, and Mars, and
beyond.
Senator Duckworth. OK. You know, whatever we can do to
support the space program, I am on board. I just have one final
question, I am asking all the Trump nominees: If given an
illegal or unconstitutional order by President Trump or your
superiors, would you oppose it?
Mr. Isaacman. I do not think President Trump would give an
illegal order, but I would follow the law, ma'am.
Senator Duckworth. And you would oppose--if he were?
Mr. Isaacman. I do not believe the President would give me
an illegal order, ma'am.
Senator Duckworth. OK, that is fine. But if given an
illegal or unconstitutional order, will you oppose it?
Mr. Isaacman. I will always follow the law, ma'am.
Senator Duckworth. So is that a yes? You will oppose an
illegal order if given one by either the President or your
superiors?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I will always follow the law.
Senator Duckworth. I am out of time, Mr. Chairman.
The Chairman. Senator Moreno.
STATEMENT OF HON. BERNIE MORENO,
U.S. SENATOR FROM OHIO
Senator Moreno. I will start with you, Mrs. Trusty. Thank
you so much for taking the time in my office. We did not know
each other before meeting with you. Your parents are beaming
with pride, which I love to see, with good reason. You are
somebody who has an incredibly great temperament, incredible
intellect, and I cannot think of somebody more qualified to do
your job, honestly.
The one question I have for you is, there is a scourge of
robocalls, it creates enormous amounts of scammers. Seniors are
getting bilked of their life savings. How would you use
advanced technologies to put an end to this?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. I really appreciate this
question, because you are right. I worry about the
susceptibility of our youth and seniors to robocall scams. And
I really worry about how illegal robocallers, as we just
discussed, are leveraging artificial intelligence to get around
call authentication measures.
So I think, generally, the FCC could benefit from stronger
enforcement authorities and penalties to go after illegal
robocallers. I also think the FCC can continue its work in
working with international counterparts as well as state
attorneys generals to go after these fraudsters. But I think we
need to discuss more proactive call-blocking measures so that
these calls never reach the end user. So again, I think
artificial intelligence is the key here.
Senator Moreno. Well, thank you, and I cannot wait to have
you in that agency taking care of it.
Ms. Trusty. Yes, sir.
Senator Moreno. And I am sure you will. And again, thank
you for serving this country.
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, sir.
Senator Moreno. Mr. Isaacson [sic], I am sure with your
deep intellect that you know that the Aircraft Engine Research
Laboratory in Cleveland, Ohio, was created 17 years before NASA
was created. And there is a sign when you walk, or when drive
into the center that says ``For the Benefit of All''; what does
that mean to you?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, I do believe that NASA's
mission is to undertake the near impossible, to solve the most
demanding, complex engineering challenges to bring the
commercial--so the commercial industry can follow, and to bring
the rest of the world along the way.
Senator Moreno. And that is something that I am sure you
have a passion, a deep passion, to make sure that we are always
the leader; is that correct?
Mr. Isaacman. A hundred percent, Senator.
Senator Moreno. And just for the record, could you give me
a sense of the scale of difficulty it was for you as a kid, if
I can say that, as a teenager, to create a company that would
become as successful as yours? Give me the scale of difficulty,
and kind of some of--give me one example of a deep challenge
you faced making that happen that you thought maybe was not
possible?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, there is a--there was certainly a
lot of ups and downs over the last 26 years. I would say
probably some of the earliest challenges, although, I mean, as
a company that went through the Dot-com, the Great Recession,
the pandemic, we certainly had our fair share of obstacles
along the way. Probably some of the hardest was the earliest
days, Senator, where we tried to grow through our own cash-
flows, which is always a challenge. And I was 16 years old, so
I had to make sure I hid myself from any trade shows, or in-
person meetings. Occasionally someone would show up at the
house for a meeting, and my father fortunately took that for
me.
Senator Moreno. It is always hard to meet underachievers.
So congratulations on that. How will you use that skill set at
a complex organization like NASA?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, NASA is an extraordinary agency, and
they are the most accomplished, well-respected space agency in
the world. I want to do whatever I can and work alongside the
best and brightest to continue that. I do suspect there are
some things that I have learned through running two successful
businesses over the last two--you know, more than two decades
that I think I can help bring to the Agency.
I would love to roll up my sleeves, figure out what is
being--what are the challenges we have from a program
management perspective that are causing everything to take
longer than it should, and cost more than it should. I would
like to instill a very strong mission-first culture at the
Agency, that if we can execute on our mission and get to the
Moon, get to Mars, and all the other things, the inspiration,
the STEM education will all take care of itself.
A culture of ownership and accountability, that when we
make mistakes, we own them, we fix them, and we get back to
delivering on their important objectives.
Senator Moreno. Well, thank you for that. And I have one
last question.
Ms. Trusty, one hundred percent unequivocal support from
me. I hope to see my Democrat colleagues join us and see if we
can get as many votes for you as humanly possible.
But for Mr. Isaacson [sic], I have one question. It does
hinge for me, the entirety of whether I can support your
nomination or not. Who is the most important character in the
movie Armageddon?
Mr. Isaacman. Clearly Bruce Willis, for the important self-
sacrifice for all mankind, sir.
Senator Moreno. Let the record show he did not say Dan
Truman, which makes me wonder of his judgment. But I will still
reserve my vote for you.
The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Moreno. I would note that
when you were describing the motto ``For the Benefit of All''
at the facility in Ohio, I thought you were going to reference
the phrase ``To Serve Man'', the classic Twilight Zone episode
that ends with ``It is a cookbook. It is a cookbook.''
Senator Markey.
STATEMENT OF HON. EDWARD MARKEY,
U.S. SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS
Senator Markey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Ms. Trusty, congratulations on your nomination. As you
know, I authored the E-Rate, E for Education, program in the
House of Representatives as part of the Telecommunications Act
of 1996, because I believed then, and I believe now, that
access to education should not depend on your ZIP code. Thanks
to the E-Rate, thousands of schools in the United States now
have high-speed Internet access. That is millions of students
who can research, learn, and grow with the tools they need to
succeed in the 21st century economy. Do you agree that the E-
Rate program has been a success?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, thank you. Yes, I agree that E-Rate
has been an important part of making sure students are
connected across the country.
Senator Markey. Student education has changed a lot since I
created the E-Rate program nearly 30 years ago. Today, learning
often extends outside the schoolhouse, putting many low-income
and rural students who lack Internet access at home at a
serious disadvantage. Do you agree that having access to high-
speed broadband at home is important for students and educators
in our modern educational environment?
Ms. Trusty. Certainly, Senator. I think having access to
broadband at home, at school, everywhere across the country, is
important.
Senator Markey. And do you agree that a predictable funding
source for E-Rate is critical for schools and libraries to stay
connected?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator. The Communications Act requires a
specific, predictable, and sufficient funding source for
Universal Service.
Senator Markey. Thank you. Now, let us turn to a different
issue. Over the past few months, Chairman Carr has taken a
series of steps to attack broadcasters over their news
programming. He pressured CBS to release a transcript of an
interview with Vice President Harris that supposedly contained
evidence of deceptive editing.
When the transcript clearly refuted that allegation,
Chairman Carr still opened a docket to accept public comments
on it. He has taken similarly baseless steps against ABC and
NBC, and he opened an investigation into the underwriting
practices of public broadcasters without citing any evidence of
wrongdoing.
Taken together, these actions indicate a Chairman intent on
weaponizing the FCC's legal authorities for ideological and
partisan purposes.
Ms. Trusty, I understand you cannot comment on open
proceedings, so I will ask generally. Do you agree that the FCC
should not open or conduct investigations for political
purposes?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator. I agree with that.
Senator Markey. If asked to vote on an investigation or
enforcement matter that violates the First Amendment, will you
vote against that matter?
Ms. Trusty. So Senator, I do not want to speculate on
something that has not happened yet. But what I can tell you
is----
Senator Markey. If it is a violation of the First
Amendment, will you vote against it?
Ms. Trusty. What I can tell you is, I firmly believe in the
First Amendment. And I will not do anything to violate it.
Senator Markey. OK, that is what I wanted to hear, and I am
glad to hear that you will take that position. And I am going
to be closely monitoring the Commission's work to ensure that
it complies with the First Amendment. Thank you.
Mr. Isaacman, you have deep personal and financial ties to
Elon Musk. You have invested tens of millions of dollars in
SpaceX. You have paid millions of dollars to SpaceX for two
private space flights. Your payments company, Shift4, has an
ongoing, ``global strategic partnership'' with Starlink worth
millions each year.
And according to a recent Wall Street Journal report, Musk
personally asked you to lead NASA. Given SpaceX's significant
interest before NASA, you can understand why the public would
be concerned about conflicts of interest here. So let us try to
set a few things straight. I understand that you met with Elon
Musk at Mar-a-Lago in late 2024; is that correct?
Mr. Isaacman. No, Senator. I was in Mar-a-Lago to be
interviewed by the President of the United States.
Senator Markey. So you did not meet with Elon Musk at Mar-
a-Lago?
Mr. Isaacman. I went to Mar-a-Lago to be interviewed by the
President of the United States----
Senator Markey. I did not ask you that. Did you meet with
Elon Musk at Mar-a-Lago?
Mr. Isaacman. I believe he was one of dozens of people that
were around Mar-a-Lago at the time, Senator.
Senator Markey. So did you meet with him?
Mr. Isaacman. I would not say we had a meeting. We probably
had a conversation in passing, Senator.
Senator Markey. OK. During that same trip, then President-
elect Trump offered you the NASA Administrator job; is that
correct?
Mr. Isaacman. At the conclusion of the meeting, Senator, he
did.
Senator Markey. Thank you. Was Elon Musk in your meeting
when Trump offered you the NASA position at Mar-a-Lago?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I was interviewed by the President
of the United States.
Senator Markey. Was Elon Musk in the meeting when he
offered you the job?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, my meeting was with the President of
the United States.
Senator Markey. So Elon Musk was not in the meeting; is
that what you are saying?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I was being interviewed and speaking
with the President of the United States.
Senator Markey. Can you just say he was not in the meeting?
Was he in the meeting or not in the meeting?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I am trying to be as transparent as
I can. I was being interviewed by the President of the United
States.
Senator Markey. It is not a difficult question. Was Elon
Musk in the room when the President offered you the job?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I was--again, my meeting was with
the President of the United States.
Senator Markey. I am assuming that you do not want to
answer the question directly because Elon Musk was in the room.
I think that is the only conclusion anyone listening to this
could reach, unless you want to dispel us of that notion.
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, again, I was being interviewed by
the President of the United States. I would also say I have
no----
Senator Markey. That is not what--I appreciate that. I am
just trying to determine Elon Musk's role in this, and you are
not willing to be fully transparent. Have you discussed your
plans for NASA with Elon Musk?
Mr. Isaacman. I have not.
Senator Markey. So those questions obviously raise serious
questions. And I want to turn to one more specific question.
From monitoring sea level rise to polar ice loss, to wildfires,
NASA's satellites are the backbone of climate research used by
scientists, policymakers, and the public across the globe.
NASA's Earth Observing System collects and archives more than
147 terabytes of data each day. This data underpins climate
action efforts at every level of the government, and it drives
global research collaborations, and it informs life-saving
disaster response.
It is a public good. Yet the Trump administration is
seeking to undermine that. A recent investigation found that
large swaths of climate datasets, visualizations, and web
tools, once publicly accessible, have been altered or taken
down. This unprecedented rollback of public information
compromises scientific continuity and transparency at a time of
accelerating climate threats and extreme weather events.
If confirmed, will you commit to fully restoring and
maintaining access to data, as well as resisting any political
pressure to sideline climate research at NASA?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I can tell you I am very passionate
about the Earth Sciences Division inside of NASA, especially
with respect to anything that has impact on human life and the
financial repercussions for remediating things such as
wildfires, landslides, flooding. Earth Sciences also, it plays
a big role in----
Senator Markey. But will you----
Mr. Isaacman.--near-earth asteroid protection.
Senator Markey. But will you make a commitment to restore
all of that information so that it is available to the public?
It is vital scientific information.
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I have not been made aware of any
information that is not being provided. I mean, I am just not
familiar with any of these changes, Senator.
Senator Markey. I am very disappointed in your question
[sic]. All this information is vital to getting the information
into the hands of scientists and ultimately ordinary citizens
too.
The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Markey.
Senator Markey. And I appreciate your indulgence, Mr.
Chairman.
The Chairman. Mr. Isaacman, in response to Senator
Duckworth, you said multiple times you will follow the law.
Under every circumstance, you will follow the law. I appreciate
that commitment.
I want to go back and revisit the exchange you had with
Senator Kim, because one component of the law, you have said,
and I am glad to hear it, that under your leadership, America
will beat China back to the Moon. That is important. But the
law is clear beyond simply going to the Moon, that is part of
it; that going to the Moon shall be a stepping stone for
further exploration of Mars. The ultimate objective is Mars,
but going to the Moon is critical.
The law also specifies explicitly, ``The Administrator
shall'', and when legislation uses the word ``shall'', it
denotes a mandatory obligation, ``The Administrator shall
establish a program to develop a sustained human presence in
cislunar space or on the Moon.'' With respect to Senator Kim
you were reluctant to commit on a sustained human presence on
the Moon. Could you clarify your view on that to this
committee?
Mr. Isaacman. Well, Senator, as a space enthusiast, I would
like nothing more, as I have said before, to see a number of
lunar outposts, and Mars outposts, and for us to even progress
farther out into our solar system. If we have--if we are in an
unlimited budgetary environment and can maintain an ongoing
presence on the lunar surface, I am more than supportive of it.
I think it is imperative that we have to get back to the Moon
first as quickly as we possibly can, figure out again the
scientific, economic, national security value to being there,
which I am very hopeful that we are going to find in order to
support the ongoing presence on the lunar surface, sir.
The Chairman. So the statute is written in the disjunctive.
It gives the choice of either the surface of the Moon or
cislunar orbit; what is your view on the Gateway project?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, that is an area that if I am
confirmed, I would, again, would love to roll up my sleeves and
get--further understand what is working right? What are the
opportunities the Gateway presents to us? And where are some of
the challenges? Because I think the Gateway is a component of
many programs that are over budget and behind schedule, sir.
The Chairman. So you are describing Gateway as over budget
and behind schedule. I will say there is a long history in NASA
of administrations coming in and canceling programs and causing
massive delays. Barack Obama did that with Constellation, and
NASA struggled for years as a consequence. As Administrator,
are you going to cancel the Gateway program?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I have no intention as of now to say
that I would cancel any program. I need to, if I am confirmed,
get in the job and understand where things are at. I want to
assure you and this Committee that I want to see America win
and succeed and lead in space, whether that be the Moon, Mars,
low Earth orbit, and beyond. I do not want to see us come in
second place, and I certainly do not want to see the right-hand
side of that poster you put up, sir.
The Chairman. So I want to ask you again, because you have
said you will follow the law. Are you committed to a sustained
human presence in cislunar space or on the Moon, and that is
Federal Statute?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, if that is the law then I am
committed to it.
The Chairman. OK. All right. Let us talk LEO. The
International Space Station is managed at Johnson Space Center
in Houston, Texas. NASA is planning to retire the ISS by 2030,
replacing it with one or more commercially developed space
stations, funded partially by NASA and partially by outside
customers. Unfortunately, both NASA and commercial replacements
are behind schedule. Do you agree that we cannot have a gap
period between the ISS and its successor, when there would be
zero human U.S. presence in low Earth orbit?
Mr. Isaacman. I do agree, Senator. We cannot cede low Earth
orbit to the Chinese.
The Chairman. Now, I would note, in the first Trump
administration, there were those in the administration pushing
to deorbit the International Space Station prematurely. Given
that we have invested over $100 billion dollars in the station,
I think that would be profoundly foolish to give up on that
investment as long as it is safe to continue using it. After
the administration floated this idea multiple times, the U.S.
Senate passed legislation that I authored, 100 to nothing.
Every Republican and every senator came through, committing
that we would maintain the International Space Station at least
until 2030, as long as it is safe and scientifically feasible.
Will you commit to follow the law and not deorbit the space
station before 2030?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I will absolutely commit to follow
the law, and I think we need to maximize the return that
taxpayers have invested in that orbital laboratory, use every
bit of time we have to crack the code on the space economy, and
give Commercial LEO destinations a fighting chance when they
inevitably take over, sir.
The Chairman. Ms. Trusty, it has been 2 years since the FCC
lost general auction authority, and 3 years since the last
meaningful auction of Spectrum. The Spectrum Pipeline Act,
which I introduced with Leader Thune and with Senator Blackburn
last year, would restore the FCC's auction authority and would
establish a clear pipeline of mid-band spectrum for commercial
use.
Ms. Trusty, should Congress restore the FCC's general
auction authority with a clear pipeline of mid-band spectrum?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator, and to the extent it accommodates
both our economic and national security interests, I believe it
can.
The Chairman. So what would be the benefits of restoring
the auction authority with a clear pipeline of mid-band
spectrum?
Ms. Trusty. Thank you, Senator. I think there would be
tremendous economic benefits: job creation, workforce
productivity, the expansion of broadband services across the
country, I also think it is foundational to our leadership
internationally on global technologies.
The Chairman. As you know, the Department of Defense has
been highly resistant to giving up any Spectrum, and for a long
time they have given a parade of horribles as to what would
occur if any Spectrum moved to the commercial sector. I find
that parade of horribles highly incredible and the result of
bureaucratic intransigence. It is intransigence that began when
General Milley was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and DOD
chose a strategy of absolutely resisting and refusing to work
on freeing up Spectrum.
I recently had a classified briefing, of which you are
aware, where I asked two questions to the senior leadership at
DOD and also senior leadership of the intelligence community.
The first question I asked was: Over 50 countries across the
planet have moved substantial portions of the Spectrum in
question to the commercial sector, and they are being used
presently for commercial purposes, is it DOD's position that
our Navy does not operate in the Pacific, that we can only
defend Topeka, Kansas, and the rest of the world, our military
is unable to defend the United States?
You have unique expertise, having worked both on the
Commerce Committee and the Senate Armed Services Committee. In
your opinion, are we able to defend ourselves across the globe,
even in areas where other countries have moved significant
portions of Spectrum to be available for the commercial sector?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, I appreciate this question. So I will
say I am not privy to all of DOD's Spectrum assets and
capabilities, but I do think there is an opportunity to move
forward on Spectrum policy that protects both our national
security and advances our economic interests. And I think what
that really requires is, like you said, having classified
briefings or briefings in the public, where multiple
stakeholder perspectives are represented to challenge positions
on various matters. I think it promotes transparency, and it
ensures, I think, there is more cohesion on Spectrum matters
going forward.
The Chairman. The second question that I asked DOD that
they had a totally insufficient answer to, was what would be
the national security consequences, and I would add the
economic security consequences, if America loses the race for
6G, and the global telecom architecture is built by Huawei and
controlled by the Chinese communists, and every active duty
serviceman and woman who has their own cell phone is now
communicating over Chinese telecom infrastructure. In your
judgment, what would be the economic interest and the national
security interest if that occurred, if we lose the race to 6G?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, I think--I hope we could all agree
that it would be devastating to our economic and national
security interest if we had to be reliant on Chinese
technologies.
The Chairman. Senator Cantwell.
Senator Cantwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am glad I made
it back. Ms. Trusty, you both look like you----
The Chairman. I did filibuster a little bit for you.
Senator Cantwell. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I wanted
to go back to that virtual multichannel video programming
distribution issue at the FCC. I want to understand whether you
think the FCC should reexamine and negotiate with online
platforms the carriage of local news content. I am concerned
that these large platforms, because of the way things have
evolved with the affiliates kind of leaving the broadcasters to
themselves, and yet they could have some ability.
Right now, I believe local broadcasting is holding us
together in a lot of ways. It is a trusted source of content
that people believe in. They believe their local news
organization. They think that model probably would not exist if
the community did not believe in the product, and so we do not
want to lose that.
But as the digital age continue to evolve, and these
products and services continue to evolve, like YouTube now
being a dominant content distributor, then the ability to
negotiate directly with them is a big revenue opportunity, if
you will. So how do you look at that issue? Do you think that
this should be looked at by the FCC and help level the playing
field for local journalism?
Ms. Trusty. Senator, I do. So you know, to your point about
localism, I think it is extremely important. Broadcasters
provide vital news and information about social and cultural
events, educational programming, and information in disasters.
And I think it is incumbent upon the FCC to work with Congress
to ensure we have a modern regulatory framework that reflects
the realities of today's media marketplace, that enables
broadcasters to better compete against technology companies for
viewers, for ad revenues, for programming, all things that they
can generate resources by to reinvest into their news gathering
operations and increase the availability of local news.
Senator Cantwell. OK. And what do you think the best way
for--I think they opened that case many years ago and then
closed--then have not reopened it--or actually, technically, I
am not sure about that. You probably know the answer.
Ms. Trusty. I think the----
Senator Cantwell. It is probably like in quasi-land, where
you could just easily reopen it; is that right?
Ms. Trusty. Well, I think it is still open before the
Commission. I am happy to take a look at it, if confirmed. I
know that it has been a question on your mind for the past
couple of FCC nominations hearings, but I think it is an
important issue, Senator. I am happy to take a look at it and
ask the questions.
Senator Cantwell. Right, but you think it should be
relooked at, is that----
Ms. Trusty. I am certainly happy to take a look at it.
Senator Cantwell. Yes. Yes. OK. And then I cannot even--OK.
I am sure you believe in the First Amendment. I am sure you
believe in not weaponizing--making sure that we have a free
press, back to this broadband issue. As we have continued to
allocate resources and look to the FCC, what do you think the
best thing the FCC could do now to put more clarity behind the
shortfall in broadband inequities?
Ms. Trusty. So I think when we talk about broadband
inequities, I think about affordability and adoption. And so
with respect to affordability, I think we can promote more
competition, embrace more technologies. I think when you have
more choice in the marketplace that helps to reduce the cost of
the service.
I also think we can focus on removing regulatory barriers
that might impede broadband deployment or raise the cost of
broadband deployment. If those regulatory barriers are out of
the way, I also think that can reduce costs for consumers. Of
course, we have the Lifeline program as well. So as the
Committee is looking at potential reforms to USF, perhaps there
is an opportunity to make adjustments to better target those
services to communities in need.
I would also speak to digital literacy programs. I know
that the private industry and public interest groups have
programs of that sort to help people understand how to maximize
the benefit of this technology in their lives.
Senator Cantwell. And what about the mapping? You know
that--I mean, I think we might probably even have shared with
you that Microsoft data that they came up with, which can tell
you by household who does not have broadband.
Ms. Trusty. Absolutely. I think maps are foundational to
closing the digital divide. And we have the Broadband Data Act,
but of course there is always room for improvement, so if I am
confirmed, I would welcome the opportunity to work with private
sector stakeholders, like your own constituents, to better
improve the maps.
Senator Cantwell. Well, I think it could help us elevate a
conversation into what are the choices that we could have if we
really understood that people at $40,000 of income probably
aren't buying broadband, which means their kids, from a school
perspective and other things, might not be getting the access
that we want. And then obviously the impact it has on
communities.
And then back to the Spectrum. I listened to what you said
earlier, even though I have been running in and out at various
votes, that you believe that the DOD side of this equation
needs to be thought through, that your experience here and then
your experience there gave you two different viewpoints on
this. How do you think the FCC could best help in resolving
this issue?
How do we--let me say it differently. Ten or fifteen years
ago, we probably would have said the FCC is the undisputed
scientific leader. You know, you would go to your scientist and
you would say, this is what they say about interference, right?
But now the world has changed, and we have so much more on the
technology front. And now we have agencies disputing each
other, right; DOD and FAA, or various things.
How do you think you can reassert the FCC's scientific
leadership on this issue when so much of the conversation ends
up happening, you know, downstairs in a secure briefing room?
Ms. Trusty. Sure. I appreciate this question. I think this
is probably the heart of the issue that engineers do not agree
on interference metrics, among other things. So this is where I
think the FCC, NTIA, MOU, memorandum of understanding could
probably come into play.
Senator Cantwell. The one that they just did, or you mean a
new one?
Ms. Trusty. Maybe a new one.
Senator Cantwell. OK.
Ms. Trusty. That is updated and reflects some of these
other considerations. Maybe we have to hire more engineers and
technical people to help address this issue, who have
experience in both camps as well. So those are, potentially,
some ideas to address this.
Senator Cantwell. And then what about the secure nature of
this? I am pretty sure, Mr. Isaacman--it is interesting you are
here together. It has made it harder for all of us because
there is a lot--there are ample questions to ask both of you.
But you are an intersection of a very big, important, what is,
not just a communication system but is a vulnerability for
national security if we do not get it right. And so I think Mr.
Isaacman can tell you how broad he thinks this is going to go
in the future, the constellations, not just the LEOs that he is
talking about, but how much more of this communication is going
to happen through the satellite system and why we have to have
this layer of security.
But do you have ideas that you think the FCC could do in
listening more to the private sector--a framework by which the
private sector and agencies could have more conversations about
what the future looks like, and thereby, you know, find some
more common ground?
Ms. Trusty. So I think this goes back to a conversation we
had a little bit earlier about folks having clearances, because
much of this information is classified or in a special access
program, and it is very sensitive. And so I know that some
people in the industry do have clearances, but to the extent we
can bring those folks into the same room with Federal agencies
to have these robust conversations about what the needs and
interests are, what the objectives are, to try to find common
ground, I think that is the most important thing here.
Senator Cantwell. I did not mean to engage you on this, but
Mr. Isaacman, do you understand my point? That there is so much
yet to still happen here, how do we get the dialogue toward the
advancements that could happen when basically everybody needs a
national security clearance, and yet at the same time give
people an understanding of where we could come together?
Ms. Trusty, you do support the effort, the NTIA's report
that DOD and NTIA should look at dynamic spectrum sharing; you
do support that?
Ms. Trusty. Yes. I think we should be investing in dynamic
spectrum sharing technologies.
Senator Cantwell. OK. Mr. Isaacman, any thoughts here?
Mr. Isaacman. Senator, I would not want to encroach on my
nominee's clear command over the Spectrum here. I would say, at
least through the lens of NASA, I am excited about what
commercial industry is working on in terms of next-generation
technology. My most recent mission to space, we tested out
sending an awful lot of data securely over a laser link, a beam
of light. I think that is a great way, at least from NASA's
perspective, to not add to the demand problem with respect to
the Spectrum.
Senator Cantwell. Um-hum. Well, I do think this will be one
of the big challenges we face is how do we--if we want this
leadership position, how do we think ahead? How do we get this
conversation with the private sector, who is really doing a lot
of that thinking, but also get the DOD part of it, and then get
the dynamic spectrum part of it done correctly?
OK, well thank you both very much. Mr. Isaacman and Miss
Trusty, I am going to ask you a final question required of all
nominees: If confirmed, do you pledge to work collaboratively
with this committee to provide thorough and timely responses to
the Committee's request and appear before the Committee when
requested?
Ms. Trusty. Yes, Senator,
Mr. Isaacman. I do, Senator.
Senator Cantwell. Thank you. I have letters of support from
various organizations for Mr. Isaacman and Ms. Trusty's
nomination that I would ask unanimous consent to be inserted
into the record.
So, without objection, so ordered.
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Senator Cantwell. Senators will have until the close of
business Friday, April 11, to submit questions for the record.
These nominees will have until the close of business Tuesday,
April 15 to respond to these questions.
I thank Senator Cruz for allowing me to come back and ask
these questions.
That concludes our hearing today. The Committee stands
adjourned.
[Whereupon, at 12:58 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
A P P E N D I X
Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to
Jared Isaacman
Question 1. Do you commit to providing NASA's initial reduction in
force (RIF) plan, as submitted to OMB, to the Committee, if confirmed?
Answer. To the extent it is permissible, yes. Like all Federal
departments and agencies, NASA operates within a government-wide
framework and must adhere to OMB and White House guidance regarding RIF
procedures.
Question 2. Do you commit to providing all subsequent RIF plans to
the Committee prior to executing them?
Answer. To the extent it is permissible, yes. Like all Federal
departments and agencies, NASA operates within a government-wide
framework and must adhere to OMB and White House guidance regarding RIF
procedures.
Question 3. In your testimony, you made several important points
about the economics of space exploration. In particular, you emphasized
the goal of a commercial low Earth orbit (LEO) economy and the need to
understand the commercial potential of outer space beyond LEO. You
promised that NASA would ``ignite a thriving space economy in low Earth
orbit,'' discussed your desire to maximize the remaining life of the
International Space Station (ISS), and said you would ``determine the
economic . . . value'' of the lunar surface as part of your approach to
lunar exploration.
Such economic analysis may prove challenging in part because NASA
recently disbanded the Office of the Chief Economist at NASA
headquarters, telling Committee staff that ``there is no intention to
maintain the function of the chief economist at the agency, and no plan
to transfer those functions within other elements of the agency.''
Among other things, this office helped with cross-agency economic
planning, conducted market assessments and economic analyses, and
advised the Administrator on economic matters related to budget
planning, program implementation and review, and procurement.
a. Do you have a strategy for developing a robust space economy,
particularly in LEO, where private investment, and not just NASA
funding, sustains various space capabilities and activities? If so,
please describe it.
Answer. Yes, hopefully I have been clear and passionate in my
testimony and responses that unlocking the true space economy is
imperative. After 60 years of space exploration, we're still largely
operating under a government-funded model focused on launch,
communications, and observation. It is not reasonable for taxpayers to
perpetually fund the future we all envision for space.
If confirmed, my strategy starts with making the most of the ISS
while it's deemed safe to operate. We need to prioritize science and
research with real economic potential--particularly in biotech,
pharmaceuticals, and advanced materials--to validate commercial use
cases and give future LEO destinations the best possible chance of
success. That is our best path to ``crack the code'' on the space
economy.
Second, we need to remove the friction and bureaucracy that slows
commercial progress. That means streamlining NASA's infrastructure
access, rethinking how we engage with and `do business' private
industry, and ensuring our funding models don't just subsidize activity
but instead catalyze scalable, sustainable outcomes.
b. If confirmed, do you intend to seek out any market assessments,
economic analyses, or other financial or economic products to inform
decision making at the agency? If yes, from where or whom will you
obtain this information?
Answer. If confirmed, I would absolutely seek out credible economic
and market analyses to inform decision-making at NASA--especially as we
work to ignite a true space economy and ensure a responsible return on
taxpayer investments.
That said, I would also like to understand the current resources
and internal capabilities within the agency. I'm aware that certain
economic offices or roles were recently dissolved, and I'd want to
review that rationale and determine whether that expertise should be
restored or supplemented.
Question 4. During your hearing, you criticized the speed of NASA's
return to the lunar surface, citing the cost and schedule overruns. You
said the President and many Americans are probably asking, ``what's
taking us so long to get back to the Moon and why does it cost so much
money?'' As you know, the Apollo program was primarily about putting
man on the Moon, not maintaining a sustained human presence there. In
contrast, the Artemis program is intended to create a ``sustained human
presence in cis-lunar space or on the Moon.'' (emphasis added)
Similarly, the overarching Moon-to-Mars program is intended to ensure
that the efforts and technologies of the Artemis program feed forward
to manned missions to Mars. I am concerned about suggestions that the
United States abandon the statutory requirement for NASA to maintain a
material presence on or near the Moon. Congress was clear that the
Artemis architecture is not to be retired or disbanded just because we
have once again reached the Moon. Rather, Artemis and particularly
Gateway are to serve as something akin to a forward operating base in
space.
a. In your own words, how do understand the term ``sustained human
presence'' found in Sec. 20302 of Chapter 51, United States Code?
Answer. In my view, a ``sustained human presence'' means more than
simply visiting or conducting one-off missions. It implies a continuous
or regularly recurring physical presence that enables a broader
strategic objective such as a scientific, economic or national security
imperative.
b. Do you believe a sustained human presence at or on the Moon is
necessary to maintain American leadership in space?
Answer. As I stated during the hearing, I'm committed to following
the law--and as a lifelong space enthusiast, I would like nothing more
than to see lunar operations become continuous, enduring, and routine.
That said, maintaining American leadership in space will require
flexible policies that ensure clear scientific, economic, and strategic
value for the American taxpayer and allow the agency, working with the
Congress, to adapt to meet the ever changing geopolitical landscape.
Question 5. During your hearing, several members of the Committee,
including me, questioned you about whether NASA can meet its existing
statutory obligations while simultaneously embarking on a new, dual-
track mission to Mars under current budget levels. Do you believe that
NASA--under current budget levels--can simultaneously have a continuous
human presence in LEO through and beyond the life of the ISS as we
transition to commercial LEO destinations (CLDs); establish a sustained
human presence at the Moon; continue funding for other, existing
complex science missions; and stand up a new manned mission to Mars?
Answer. Historically, NASA managed multiple complex human
spaceflight programs simultaneously--Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo--
alongside numerous exploration missions like Ranger, Surveyor, Pioneer,
in an era with far less technological capability than we possess today.
More than six decades later, with the advances in industry and
innovation, I believe the world's premier space agency should be
capable of executing multiple major initiatives at a time.
I believe pursuing both lunar and Martian objectives is not
inherently cost-prohibitive nor expressly prohibited by existing
Federal statute should such efforts not detract from the near-term
objective of returning to the Moon first. There is meaningful hardware
commonality across the existing Artemis Human Landing System (HLS)
providers. For instance, both contractors are already required to
validate reusable heavy-lift launch capabilities--technologies
essential for transporting mass beyond low Earth orbit, whether toward
the Moon or Mars. In fact, many of the technologies and capabilities
NASA is already investing in--such as surface nuclear power systems,
nuclear electric propulsion, and nuclear thermal propulsion--are highly
relevant for Mars exploration, though they remain underfunded and
subscale.
Question 6. During the hearing, when asked by Senator Moran if you
believe the current Artemis architecture, featuring the Space Launch
System and Orion, is the best and fastest way to beat China to the
Moon, you answered, ``I don't think it's the long-term way [SLS and
Orion] to get to and from the Moon, and to Mars, with great frequency,
but this is the plan we have now. . .''
a. What do you envision as the long-term way to get to/from the
Moon and Mars?
Answer. As I stated during the hearing, SLS is the current plan and
the fastest way to send American astronauts back to the Moon ahead of
our geopolitical rivals. And this is a race we can't risk losing. But
once our initial lunar objectives have been met, I believe NASA should
transition from competing with industry and focus again on what no
other agency or organization is capable of accomplishing.
The commercial launch market is more capable than ever, with
numerous American providers investing in heavy-lift capabilities. NASA
should take advantage of that competition and eventually refocus its
world-class talent and infrastructure on what no one else is doing:
developing the next generation of exploration technologies. That
includes nuclear-powered spacecraft, which I believe represent the
logical next step for long-duration, deep space missions beyond Mars.
b. What is the time-frame in which you believe NASA could begin
executing the plan you describe?
Answer. Human Landing System (HLS) contractors are already
developing heavy-lift capabilities as part of the Artemis program. As
those vehicles prove themselves by supporting Artemis lunar missions,
they will be well-positioned to take on greater responsibility for
sustainable, affordable transport to the Moon and Mars.
Beyond just the existing HLS contractors, there are additional
commercial providers investing in similar heavy-lift capabilities. As
commercial readiness increases, NASA will have the opportunity
eventually to transition away from government-owned heavy-lift launch
and shift its focus toward enabling technologies for deep space
exploration.
Question 7. There has been much speculation in the media about the
administration's rumored desire to move NASA Headquarters out of
Washington, DC, and to a NASA field center. Will you commit to
notifying me or my committee staff of any NASA plans to move
Headquarters outside of Washington, DC, well ahead of an official
announcement?
Answer. Yes.
Question 8. NASA's Science Mission Directorate is responsible for
the Mars Sample Return (MSR) mission and is managed by the Jet
Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). The Mars Sample Return will be crucial for
helping plan a manned mission to Mars. The astromaterials receiving
facility at the Johnson Space Center will be responsible for receiving,
processing, and housing these samples--as they do with all
astromaterials--once they have returned to Earth. However, NASA has
halted progress on the program after cost and schedule ballooned well
beyond expectations. You have said you believe in commercialization and
helping to spur the space economy. Currently, the commercial space
company Rocket Lab has a proposal to manage MSR for less than half of
the last estimate from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). Do you
commit to taking a hard look at whether MSR should be outsourced to
industry, if confirmed?
Answer. Yes.
Question 9. When we met in my office, you talked about potentially
centralizing mission control and space traffic management. Currently,
the Johnson Space Center is home to Mission Control for all manned
missions in space. What is your view on the future of mission control
and space traffic management?
Answer. NASA currently operates multiple ``mission control''
functions across the country, and while that's understandable given the
agency's diverse mission portfolio, I don't believe every mission
requires its own bespoke mission control center. This problem will only
further be exacerbated as commercial industry matures and the space
economy is finally uncovered.
If we truly envision a future with multiple space stations, regular
lunar operations, Mars missions, and an expanding array of flagship
science missions, then we need a more scalable, efficient, and
centralized approach. This could include the consolidation of mission
operations into a single, unified mission control architecture--a
central command center that maintains real-time situational awareness
across all peaceful space exploration activities. That doesn't mean
eliminating specialized expertise, but rather integrating and
streamlining operations where possible to improve coordination,
resilience, and decision-making.
Question 10. During your hearing, I asked if you intended, if
confirmed, to cancel Gateway, the orbital lunar outpost that NASA
currently plans to use as both the first step in a sustained human
presence at the Moon and later on as the staging point for a manned
mission to Mars. You said you ``have no intention, as of now to . . .
cancel any program . . . if I'm confirmed.'' The Washington Post,
however, reported on Friday, April 11th that when OMB completed ``pass
back'' of the forthcoming NASA budget request for Fiscal Year 2026, it
came to light that the administration intends to cancel Gateway. Just
this month NASA took possession of the main module of Gateway,
beginning the process of assembly and integration with other sections.
Despite the fact that NASA has the hardware on hand, and despite the
fact that other, partner nations are actually shouldering 60 percent of
Gateway's cost, the administration appears to want to cancel the entire
effort.
a. Given that NASA intends to use Gateway to meet the statutory
requirement for a sustained human presence at the Moon, how will NASA
(and you, if confirmed) meet this statutory obligation if Gateway is
terminated?
Answer. I am not aware of any plans to cancel Gateway, and as I
stated during the hearing, I am fully committed to following the law as
written. I would have to look into the specifics of this matter more
closely, if confirmed.
b. If cancelled, how will you ensure the aforementioned
international partners remain partners in the lunar exploration effort
given that we might unilaterally upended their investments?
Answer. American leadership in the ultimate high ground of space
requires the contributions and trust of our international partners. Our
credibility is paramount. I have no interest in seeing those
relationships jeopardized or driving our allies into partnerships with
geopolitical competitors.
While, again, I am not aware of any plans to cancel Gateway, if
such a situation arose, I would work closely with our partners--as I
have done in countless complex international negotiations in my
business career--to find an acceptable path forward. I have a long
track record of bringing people together to accomplish difficult, high-
stakes objectives, and I would bring that same collaborative mindset to
NASA.
c. Would NASA need additional taxpayer dollars to repay the
international partners of Gateway for the investments and hardware
contributions they have made to this point if Gateway is cancelled?
Answer. I wouldn't want to speculate on something I'm not aware is
actually under consideration.
Question 11. The Federal government is currently operating under a
continuing resolution which extends the funding levels and funding
provisions of the Fiscal Year (FY) 2024 appropriations act through the
end of the current Fiscal Year. Importantly, Section 739 of the FY24
appropriations act states that agencies may not change programs,
projects, or activities unless such changes are approved in a
subsequent law. Section 1105 of the FY25 continuing resolution, under
which the Federal government is currently operating, extended this
prohibition, stating:
``Except as otherwise expressly provided in this division, the
requirements, authorities, conditions, limitations, and other
provisions of the appropriations Acts referred to in section
1101 shall continue in effect through [the end of FY25].''
Given these explicit prohibitions, do you believe the agency has
the legal authority to unilaterally cancel Gateway or make any changes
listed in the forthcoming President's Budget Request (PBR)?
Answer. I am not currently a party to any budget discussions and am
not aware of any planned program cancellations. As I mentioned during
my hearing, I believe NASA is capable of managing multiple world-
changing endeavors--if we eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy and stay
focused on the mission. I remain hopeful that tough trades won't be
required, but if they are, I would work closely with the Congress to
ensure the best possible outcomes and to remain fully compliant with
existing law. The goal must always be to fulfill the agency's
obligations while advancing American leadership in space.
Question 12. Public reporting indicates that FY26 PBR will propose
significant changes to multiple NASA programs, including a number of
exploration and science-focused programs. If confirmed, will you
maintain progress on those programs until any changes are made in law,
as is required by both current authorizing and appropriations law?
Answer. I am not currently a party to any budget discussions and am
not aware of any planned program cancellations. As I mentioned during
my hearing, I believe NASA is capable of managing multiple world-
changing endeavors--if we eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy and stay
focused on the mission. I remain hopeful that tough trades won't be
required, but if they are, I would work closely with the Congress to
ensure the best possible outcomes and to remain fully compliant with
existing law. The goal must always be to fulfill the agency's
obligations while advancing American leadership in space.
Question 13. In your testimony, you highlighted the strategic
importance of the Moon as a source of Helium-3. There are several
commercial entities seeking to extract and return Helium-3 to the Earth
for applications such as fusion energy. What do you see as NASA's role
in enabling a robust commercial marketplace for resource extraction on
the Moon?
Answer. As I've said before, it's imperative that we crack the code
on the space economy and shift away from a model where taxpayers are
solely funding the future we all want to see in space. The first step
is to make the most of the ISS--prioritizing high-potential science and
research and ensuring we fully leverage its remaining life.
That said, I believe the next frontier of economic opportunity will
extend to the lunar surface. If confirmed, I would support NASA in
enabling early commercial efforts--through technical support, access to
infrastructure, and policy leadership--while ensuring the agency
remains focused on exploration, science, and stewardship of this new
domain. If Helium-3 or other resources prove to be economically viable,
NASA can play a vital role in catalyzing that marketplace in
partnership with industry and international partners. This may very
well be one of the paths to NASA becoming a self-sustaining agency.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Roger Wicker to
Jared Isaacman
Question 1. NASA leadership at the John C. Stennis Space Center in
Mississippi has made great strides in partnering with commercial space
firms in rocket propulsion testing. However, barriers to more effective
partnership, such as lengthy decision processes, cost, and risk
acceptance persist within NASA.
If confirmed, how will you transform NASA to remove the barriers
that inhibit the full utilization of NASA's world class test
capabilities, such as lengthy decision-making processes and outdated
regulations? How will you utilize your authorities to grow NASA's
partnerships with commercial space industry for the use of land and
infrastructure at NASA centers?
Answer. NASA Stennis is a great example of how the agency can
reinvent itself to better support commercial industry. That kind of
transformation needs to happen across more of the organization. I have
no doubt that outdated regulations, unnecessary layers of bureaucracy,
and slow decision-making are inhibiting NASA's ability to fully
leverage its world-class infrastructure--and ultimately slowing down
mission delivery.
If confirmed, you can count on me to roll up my sleeves and get in
the trenches to identify and remove those barriers. I will draw on
everything I've learned from leading two successful companies,
including in the aerospace and defense sectors, to help NASA become
faster, more collaborative, and easier to do business with.
I would also fully utilize the Administrator's authorities to
expand public-private partnerships--ensuring that land, infrastructure,
and talent at NASA centers are being used to their full potential to
support American innovation, grow the space economy, and accelerate the
agency's core mission.
Question 2. NASA is increasing its reliance on the commercial space
sector to execute its mission. For example, the International Space
Station will be decommissioned in 2030, and will be replaced by
commercial space stations. It is important for the United States
government to both grow the commercial space industry and maintain
government activity in space, especially as our key competitors, China
and Russia, have increased their space presence and developed launch
vehicles capable of reaching all orbits and satellite constellations
for remote sensing, navigation, and communications.
If confirmed, will it be a priority of yours to continue to invest
in Federal capabilities at NASA field centers? I believe we can balance
increasing opportunities for commercial space industry with the need to
maintain Federal investments in space exploration. Is that a balance
that you support?
Answer. Yes, I believe that balance is not only possible--but
essential. NASA has partnered with commercial industry since its
inception, and the line of responsibility has always been clear: NASA
should focus on the near-impossible--those missions and technologies
that no other organization, company, or country is capable of
achieving.
When NASA accomplishes a major breakthrough, it should hand off
that capability to commercial partners and shift its focus to the next
frontier. That's how we scale innovation, grow the space economy, and
maintain American leadership.
For example, as industry continues to mature in chemical
propulsion, NASA should already be shifting its focus toward nuclear
propulsion and other next-generation technologies. That's what it means
to push the edge of the possible. If confirmed, I would support
continued investment in NASA's field centers--not just to preserve core
capabilities, but to ensure we're always preparing for the next leap
forward.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Curtis to
Jared Isaacman
Artemis/Defense in UT
Question 1. Utah is home to Northrop Grumman's Solid Rocket Motor
production. Companies in Utah are then able to leverage this technology
to help lower the costs of no-fail national security missions. As a
result, Artemis contributes to reducing costs for defense research and
production. As Administrator, how would you implement efficiencies to
lower production costs for Space Launch System components?
Answer. Solid rocket motor production--like the work done in Utah--
is a critical national capability that not only supports Artemis but
also strengthens our no-fail defense programs. I understand and
appreciate the strategic importance of these industrial synergies, and
I believe Artemis can and should contribute to a broader ecosystem of
innovation, workforce development, and supply chain resilience.
That said, SLS has faced well-documented cost and program
challenges. If confirmed, I would work to implement greater
accountability and transparency in the production of SLS components
alongside a broader cultural mission-first transformation at the
agency. It has taken long enough, cost enough and it's time to get back
to the Moon, to do so before our rivals get there and press on to Mars.
Question 2. Utah continues to face serious challenges related to
drought, wildfire risk, and declining water levels, and particularly at
the Great Salt Lake. If confirmed, how would you ensure that NASA
continues to prioritize Earth Science efforts--like satellite-based
drought monitoring and water resource modeling--that help states like
Utah manage these risks?
Answer. I believe Earth Science is one of NASA's most important
missions--because it delivers real, measurable benefits to the American
people. Satellite-based observations, including drought monitoring,
wildfire forecasting, and water resource modeling, provide critical
data that helps communities and those suffering from real hardships
that cost billions to remediate.
If confirmed, I will ensure that NASA continues to prioritize high-
impact science efforts that support agriculture, safeguard
infrastructure, and help states respond to drought and natural
disasters. We should be using our space-based assets not only to
explore the solar system, but to protect and better understand our own
planet.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Shelley Moore Capito to
Jared Isaacman
WV Visit
Question 1. Mr. Isaacman, thank you for your willingness to serve
and for speaking with me on Monday. The IV&V Center in Fairmont, West
Virginia is the home of NASA's IVV Program and is a critical resource
to the agency. The center has identified and fixed thousands of
software defects, including 18,000 for the Artemis I projects alone. I
would love to host you at the IV&V Center in Fairmont so you can see
for yourself how invested they are in safety and mission success.
If confirmed can you commit to visiting this important facility
with me?
Answer. Yes. It would be my pleasure.
Space Collaboratives
Question 2. I am a strong supporter of the Keystone Space
Collaborative (KSC). As a Pennsylvanian I'm sure you recognize that the
contributions to our space program and the aerospace industry aren't
limited to just a few geographic regions. Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West
Virginia offer the resources, expertise, research and workforce to make
major contributions.
How will you prioritize working with this collaborative and with
other stakeholders across the country?
Answer. Absolutely--as mentioned in the hearing, I believe NASA
will need the best and brightest from across the Nation to achieve
world-changing objectives. Organizations like the Keystone Space
Collaborative are helping to ensure that Ohio, Pennsylvania, West
Virginia, and other regions play a critical role in shaping the future
of aerospace and space exploration.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to
Jared Isaacman
DOGE, Workforce, Budgets. Mr. Isaacman, I appreciated our
conversation about NASA's priorities and the importance of sustained,
robust funding to achieving these goals. You yourself recognized you
are a ``political newcomer,'' and told me you thought NASA's funding
would be protected because ``everybody likes NASA.'' Unfortunately, the
Trump Administration's DOGE team is signaling NASA's budget may be
next.
On March 10, pursuant to President Trump's DOGE executive order
(EO), NASA carried out its first round of reductions in force--
terminating 23 employees, including NASA's Chief Scientist,
Technologist, and Economist. A second round of large-scale terminations
is expected soon.
Meanwhile, according to recent press reports, the White House is
considering proposing major cuts to NASA's science budget for FY 2026--
potentially up to 50 percent.
Question 1. I know you have said you would like to work on the moon
and Mars missions in parallel and believe it can be done with NASA's
current budget. However, if there is enough funding only for a mission
to the moon or a mission to Mars--which will you prioritize?
Answer. Given existing law, I would prioritize the Artemis program.
That said, I believe pursuing both lunar and Martian objectives in
parallel is not inherently cost-prohibitive. There is meaningful
hardware commonality across the existing Artemis Human Landing System
(HLS) providers. For instance, both contractors are already required to
validate reusable heavy-lift launch capabilities--technologies
essential for transporting mass beyond low Earth orbit, whether toward
the Moon or Mars.
Historically, NASA managed multiple complex programs
simultaneously--Mercury, Gemini, and Apollo--in an era with far less
technological capability than we possess today. More than six decades
later, with the advances in industry and innovation, I believe the
world's premier space agency should be capable of executing multiple
major initiatives at a time.
Question 2. Yes or no: Would you support a 50 percent cut to NASA's
science budget?
Answer. I have not reviewed or been party to any official
discussions, but a 50 percent reduction to NASA's science budget does
not appear to be an optimal outcome.
Question 3. Mr. Isaacman, you have expressed ambitious plans for
NASA if confirmed. How do you plan to accomplish these priorities if
the Administration tries to shrink NASA's budget and slash its
workforce?
Answer. As I stated during the hearing, NASA requires the best and
brightest talent from across the Nation to accomplish what no other
agency or organization can--especially in environments that demand
doing more with less. I support the President's commitment to
eliminating fraud, waste, abuse, and unnecessary bureaucracy that can
hinder the agency's mission. If confirmed, I will advocate for NASA's
priorities and the resources needed to pursue them as efficiently and
effectively as possible.
Question 4. In addition to lunar and Martian exploration, do you
believe that NASA has other important missions to fulfill, such as
conducting and supporting research and development (R&D) in Earth's
orbit, space science, Earth science, and aeronautics R&D?
Answer. Yes. As I noted in my prepared remarks, NASA has a vital
role to play across science and exploration. The agency should continue
to lead in the high ground of space--not only to return humans to the
Moon and journey to Mars, but also to ignite a thriving space economy
by maximizing the remaining life and utility of the International Space
Station, and serving as a force multiplier for science. Through this
work, NASA can accelerate the pace of world-changing discoveries.
Question 5. Do you support reductions in force at NASA?
Answer. As I stated during the hearing, NASA must be staffed with
the best and brightest from across the country to take on its bold and
complex mission--especially in times that require greater efficiency. I
support the President's goal of eliminating fraud, waste, abuse, and
unnecessary bureaucracy that can impede progress. If confirmed, I will
advocate for the agency's priorities and the resources necessary to
achieve them while ensuring that any organizational changes are
thoughtful, mission-focused, and grounded in the need to enhance--not
diminish--NASA's ability to deliver on the mission.
Question 6. How will NASA maintain critical expertise in economic
and technical areas after these reductions in force? Specifically,
without the Office of the Chief Economist, how will the agency publish
Economic Impact Reports and how will you make informed decisions
regarding the economic feasibility and merits of NASA's efforts to
support sustainable commercialization of space activities?
Answer. If confirmed, I would want to fully understand the
rationale behind these reductions--particularly in areas so closely
tied to one of my top priorities: igniting a space economy. Like
millions of others, I'm excited about the opportunities space offers,
but I also recognize that taxpayers cannot carry the full burden of
those ambitions indefinitely. To unlock the economic potential of
space, we will need the insight of experts who understand how to
translate scientific and technical achievements into sustainable, real-
world value. That type of expertise--economic and technical--must be
preserved and utilized to ensure that NASA's commercial initiatives are
both strategically sound and fiscally responsible.
Question 7. Do you consider supporting NASA's workforce and
physical infrastructure to be important budget priorities?
Answer. NASA's people and infrastructure are foundational to the
agency's success. The workforce represents the talent and expertise
required to pursue groundbreaking science and exploration, while the
infrastructure--developed over decades--is a key enabler.
Question 8. In light of the ongoing reductions in force at NASA and
potential large-scale budget cuts, are you concerned that NASA will
lose and fail to attract the scientific and technical expertise that we
need to stay ahead of our competitors?
Answer. I firmly believe that if NASA continues to deliver on its
mission--pursuing what no other agency or organization can--then
recruitment, retention, STEM engagement, and public inspiration will
follow. People are drawn to purpose, and few missions are as bold or as
meaningful as the one NASA undertakes.
NASA Thermoplastics Research and Development. NASA's aeronautics
R&D is crucial for both aviation safety and America's global aerospace
leadership. Through the Hi-Rate Composite Aircraft Manufacturing
(HiCAM) project, NASA is developing technologies that achieve up to 50
percent reduced cost for composite structures while enabling high-rate
production for future aircraft.
The Spokane Aerospace Tech Hub will complement this work by taking
NASA's lab-proven technologies and completing the critical final steps
needed for full-scale industrial production, focusing on thermoplastic
composites where Europe and Asia currently lead. This capability
represents both an economic opportunity and a national security
imperative, ensuring domestic control of technologies essential for
next-generation fixed-wing aircraft.
Question 1. Mr. Isaacman, as Administrator, how will you ensure
that NASA's aeronautics programs and projects such as HiCAM support
critical initiatives like the Spokane Tech Hub that strengthen our
domestic supply chains and help American manufacturers compete globally
in next-generation lightweight aircraft materials?
Answer. I care deeply about American competitiveness and believe
NASA should focus on advancing next-generation technologies that align
with the agency's mission and broader national priorities. If
confirmed, I will quickly get up to speed on these initiatives and
evaluate how NASA can best support projects like HiCAM and the Spokane
Tech Hub to enhance our domestic capabilities and global leadership in
aerospace.
Question 2. Will you commit to continue supporting NASA
participation in the Advanced Aerospace Materials and Manufacturing
Center (AAMMC) as a member of the Tech Hub's consortium of public and
private sector members?
Answer. I am not yet fully familiar with the specifics of the
AAMMC, but based on what I understand, it seems both logical and
beneficial for NASA to participate in efforts that bring together
public and private sector expertise to advance critical aerospace
technologies.
Aviation and Spaceflight Safety. This Committee has been focused
for several years on our legislative and oversight responsibilities
related to aviation safety. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)
Reauthorization Act of 2024 includes new measures to improve aviation
safety. NASA plays a critical role as a technical advisor to the FAA
and developer of technologies essential to both aviation and human
spaceflight safety.
In your private sector experience, you've been a pilot and founded
a company that provided adversary air training services to the U.S.
military. You've also participated in commercial human spaceflight
missions.
Question 1. Do you agree that NASA's R&D and technical advisory
capabilities are vital to the safety of our aviation system and the
safety of the flying public?
Answer. Yes. NASA has a long and respected history of research and
innovation that directly supports aviation safety. Its technical
expertise has played a critical role in improving systems, procedures,
and technologies that protect the flying public.
Question 2. How would you ensure NASA continues to provide the
technical expertise needed by regulatory agencies like the FAA for
aviation and commercial spaceflight safety?
Answer. NASA's management of the Aviation Safety Reporting System
provides unique insight into self-reported safety-related incidents,
positioning the agency to contribute meaningfully to safety
improvements. If confirmed, I would collaborate closely with the FAA
and industry stakeholders to identify the most pressing challenges in
aviation and commercial spaceflight safety and ensure NASA's resources
are directed toward developing solutions that produce measurable
results.
Lunar lander redundancy. You have publicly criticized many aspects
of NASA and the current Artemis architecture. For example, you
previously criticized NASA for supporting two Human Landing System
(HLS) lunar landers from two providers. However, dissimilar redundancy
ensures safety and competition between more than one provider spurs
innovation.
Question 1. Are you still opposed to redundancy? Or do you now
support human lunar lander redundancy?
Answer. Several years ago, I expressed concerns about redundancy
after a competitive process had already concluded and a single provider
had been selected. At the time, I found it difficult to reconcile
having no redundancy for transporting astronauts to lunar orbit--given
our reliance on a single vehicle like SLS--while simultaneously funding
multiple redundant systems for the landing itself. My position stemmed
from a genuine concern over program delays, budget overruns, and the
risk that my children might not see American astronauts return to the
Moon within a reasonable time-frame or budget.
Question 2. If you now support HLS lunar lander dissimilar
redundancy, please explain why your position has changed.
Answer. I no longer oppose lunar lander redundancy because the
decision has already been made, and significant investments have been
committed. As a result, the United States now has an additional
commercial provider with heavy-lift launch capability, which enhances
national resilience and capacity in space exploration.
Question 3. How would you ensure the safety of our astronauts
without the added resiliency created through redundancy?
Answer. Fortunately, we now have two commercial providers
developing redundant lunar landers, which strengthens mission safety
and flexibility. However, I believe it's important to highlight that we
still lack redundancy in the systems that transport astronauts from
Earth to lunar orbit and back. That remains a critical area of focus if
we are to ensure complete mission resiliency and crew safety.
Space Launch System (SLS). You previously called NASA's Space
Launch System (SLS) ``outrageously expensive'' and suggested it was the
result of the Federal government being ``lousy at capital allocation.''
Question 1. Yes or No: Do you support continued Artemis missions
with NASA's Space Launch System?
Answer. Yes. As I mentioned during the hearing, the SLS is part of
the current plan and represents the fastest path to returning American
astronauts to the Moon. That said, the program has significant
challenges. Even NASA's Inspector General has issued multiple reports
critical of the SLS program's cost and schedule performance.
Question 2. Yes or No: Do you plan to cancel NASA's Space Launch
System, if confirmed?
Answer. No. As I stated in the hearing, SLS is the current plan and
the fastest means of sending American astronauts to the Moon ahead of
our geopolitical rivals. As I emphasized during the hearing, this is a
race the United States can't afford to lose. Once those obligations
have been met, I believe NASA should transition away from competing
with the commercial sector and instead focus its world-class talent and
infrastructure on developing the next generation of exploration
technologies--including nuclear spaceships--as a logical next step.
Question 3. According to a March 29, 2025, Wall Street Journal
report titled, ``Elon Musk's Mission to Take Over NASA--and Mars,'' the
Trump White House plans to propose canceling SLS in its FY 2026 budget
proposal. Are you aware of any such plan?
Answer. I am not aware of any plan to cancel SLS.
Question 4. Have you discussed the prospect of canceling SLS with
any Trump Administration official?
Answer. No.
Question 5. Have you discussed the prospect of canceling SLS with
any SpaceX representative?
Answer. No.
Question 6. Do you believe canceling SLS would be detrimental to
U.S. efforts to return to the moon before China arrives?
Answer. Yes.
Question 7. If confirmed, do you intend to move NASA away from SLS
and toward reliance on commercial heavy lift launch vehicles, such as
the SpaceX Starship and Blue Origin New Glenn? Why or why not?
Answer. As I've said, SLS is the plan today and provides the
fastest pathway for returning American astronauts to the Moon and it is
imperative we do not lose in this regard. However, at some point in the
future, after NASA meets the imperative lunar objectives, I believe the
agency should transition away from competing with commercial providers.
Instead, NASA's focus should shift toward the technologies that no
other agency or organization is capable of developing--such as nuclear-
powered spacecraft--that will enable deeper space exploration and
sustain U.S. leadership in space.
NASA Funding and Support to the Commercial Space Economy. In your
written and verbal testimony before the Committee, you stated that one
of your three main objectives for NASA was to ``ignite a thriving space
economy in low Earth orbit.'' You further explained that by working
alongside international partners and industry, ``we can unlock the true
economic potential of space and deliver meaningful benefits to the
American people--potentially charting a course for NASA to become a
financially self-sustaining agency.''
NASA's current support to fostering a thriving low Earth orbit
space economy often involves partnerships with commercial industry that
include cost sharing, in-kind technical support, and commitments to be
an ``anchor tenant'' customer in specific mission areas and
capabilities.
Question 1. Given the nascent nature of many on-orbit commercial
space activities and NASA's current role as a source of Federal funding
and technical assistance to industry, what financial arrangements are
you envisioning that would allow NASA to be self-sustaining and
independent of significant Congressional appropriations?
Answer. Like millions of others, I envision an exciting future in
space--but I also recognize that budgets are not unlimited. For over 60
years, American taxpayers have invested in the agency's pursuit and
exploration of the final frontier. Moving forward, those taxpayer
contributions should increasingly be supplemented by the economic
potential space has to offer. Ideally, NASA should begin to explore
mechanisms for generating offsetting revenue--similar in spirit to the
FAA's use of the Airport and Airway Trust Fund.
CLPS and Lunar Science. The Commercial Lunar Payload Services
(CLPS) program has emerged as a critical component in supporting NASA's
sustainable lunar presence and meeting civil and national security
needs. Key modifications are being considered for CLPS 2.0, such as
establishing a regular cadence of missions, adopting block buy
contracts, expanding to heavier cargo-class landers, incorporating
infrastructure providers, and making CLPS a multi-directorate program.
Question 1. Will you commit to supporting these modifications to
CLPS and increasing funding between the Space Technology Mission
Directorate (STMD) and the Exploration Systems Development Mission
Directorate (ESDMD) to expand commercial lunar surface demonstrations?
Answer. While I cannot speak to future budget increases, I am a
strong advocate for the Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS)
program and believe it represents a compelling model not only for lunar
missions, but for future exploration and discovery efforts more
broadly. CLPS embodies a templated, scalable approach that allows for
more frequent, cost-effective ``shots on goal,'' in contrast to NASA's
historic reliance on bespoke, high-cost science missions. Expanding
this type of model can accelerate discovery, spur commercial
innovation, and better position NASA to pursue a wide range of
scientific objectives across the solar system.
Astrophysics. We are aware of your past interest in proposing a
servicing mission to the Hubble Telescope using private funding. U.S.
leadership in astronomy dates back to more than a century, with space-
based telescopes revolutionizing our understanding of the universe.
Sustaining the operations of our existing astrophysical observatories
is at significant risk due to proposed steep cuts in their operating
budgets, despite huge demand for observation time using these
telescopes.
Question 1. Will you commit to supporting the full operations cost
of Hubble and JWST, to ensure that taxpayers receive the appropriate
return on their investments in these missions?
Answer. I strongly believe in maximizing the value of instruments
that have already been funded and are delivering meaningful scientific
returns. Telescopes like JWST, Hubble, Chandra, and others represent
decades of investment and are producing groundbreaking insights.
Heliophysics. Space weather caused by the relationship between the
Sun and the Earth, is an area of NASA science that is vital to the
global economy. Warning times for the impact of a direct hit on our
planet from a coronal mass ejection (CME) remain dangerously low,
putting at risk assets in space and critical infrastructure on Earth.
Unfortunately, NASA's most recent budget requests for this field of
research have been lower than expected.
Question 1. Will you support growing the Heliophysics budget so
that it reaches roughly a billion dollars a year to adequately address
space weather risks?
Answer. I am personally well aware of the risks posed by space
weather--not only to our Nation's critical infrastructure but also to
the lives of astronauts. If confirmed, I will be an advocate for
continued investments in heliophysics and for ensuring that we remain
vigilant in understanding and mitigating these risks.
Question 2. What are your plans to implement the National Academies
most recent Heliophysics decadal survey that called for developing the
Geospace Dynamics Constellation (GDC)?
Answer. I am not yet deeply familiar with the details of the GDC
program, but if confirmed, I intend to become well-versed in the latest
decadal recommendations and do everything I can to support their
thoughtful implementation. The decadal surveys represent a vital,
community-driven process for setting scientific priorities, and I take
that guidance seriously.
Question 3. Will you commit to protecting the operations and
science data analysis budgets for currently operating missions like the
Magnetospheric Multiscale (MMS) Mission so that U.S. scientists and
researchers, rather than their Chinese counterparts, can continue to
lead the world in the analysis needed to better understand the risks
from space weather?
Answer. I am not yet familiar with the specific status of the MMS
mission, but I care deeply about maintaining U.S. leadership in science
and ensuring that our investments continue to yield important data and
discoveries. If confirmed, I will take a close look at the mission's
contributions and work to understand both the risks it helps address
and the opportunities it presents for continued leadership in
heliophysics.
Elon Musk and Conflicts of Interest. I understand you have a close
relationship with Mr. Musk and his company, SpaceX.
I want to be clear about my expectations: The American people must
have confidence that their leaders are not beholden to any one person.
If you are confirmed, I expect you will go above and beyond the bare
minimum and clearly demonstrate that you are acting in the public's
interest--not Mr. Musk's or your own.
Context:
My relationship with SpaceX is not unlike NASA's, in that they are
currently the only commercial provider offering crewed transportation
to and from low Earth orbit. I do not have a close personal
relationship with Mr. Musk. While I've spoken with him occasionally
over the years in my capacity as a SpaceX customer, I would describe
our interactions as professional. I admire and respect his
contributions to space and technology, but it would be inaccurate to
characterize our relationship as close.
Question 1. How will you ensure that your relationship with Mr.
Musk and SpaceX will not result in conflicts of interest or the
appearance of conflicts?
Answer. I disclosed all financial and contractual relationships
during the ethics process and have fully complied with the guidance and
conclusions provided by government ethics officials. I will not
hesitate to involve NASA's General Counsel, or other designated agency
ethics officials, on any matter that could even give the appearance of
a conflict. I have no interest in personal gain or benefiting any
contractor--I am here solely to serve my country and lead the world's
greatest space agency with integrity and transparency.
Question 2. Will you commit to recusing yourself from NASA
decisions that would impact SpaceX or Mr. Musk?
Answer. I fully commit to adhering to my ethics agreement, and
whenever there is uncertainty, I will consult with the NASA General
Counsel, or other designated agency ethics officials, to ensure full
compliance.
Question 3. If no, what will you do to ensure Mr. Musk does not
inappropriately influence these decisions?
Answer. The commercial launch market today is more competitive than
at any point in the history of space exploration. NASA will continue to
conduct open and fair competitions with the objective of delivering the
best capability to taxpayers at the lowest cost.
Question 4. What procedures will you put into place to ensure that
Mr. Musk does not inappropriately influence the independent decision
making of NASA?
Answer. NASA has operated for decades alongside a broad base of
major contractors--including Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman,
Blue Origin, and SpaceX. I trust the agency has well-established
internal controls to preserve independent decision-making, and if
confirmed, I will uphold and reinforce those standards across the
board.
Question 5. To promote public confidence and transparency, will you
notify Congress every time Mr. Musk meets with you or anyone on your
senior team?
Answer. Upon confirmation, I will execute my duties as
Administrator consistent with applicable government ethics laws and
regulations and based on guidance from the NASA's General Counsel or
other designated agency ethics officials.
Question 6. You have made the decision to retain a 25 percent
ownership interest in Shift4, rather than divesting entirely, while
Shift4 maintains a financial relationship with Starlink that pays your
company between $10-16 million per year. Given this ongoing financial
relationship with one of Mr. Musk's companies, what specific steps will
you take, if confirmed, to avoid the appearance of conflicts of
interest with Mr. Musk or Starlink?
Answer. Upon confirmation, I will resign from my positions with
Shift4 Payments, LLC and Shift4 Payments, Inc, and its wholly owned
subsidiaries. I will also surrender my majority voting control of the
business. I will take these actions pursuant to my ethics agreement.
Furthermore, upon confirmation, I will execute my duties as
Administrator consistent with applicable government ethics laws and
regulations and based on guidance from the NASA's General Counsel or
other designated agency ethics officials.
Question 7. Will you ensure SpaceX employees are not given access
to NASA computer systems, databases, or facilities that present a
conflict of interest, like what we have seen at the FAA?
Answer. No vendor or contractor will have access to NASA systems or
data beyond what is explicitly permitted under their agreement with the
agency, existing agency policy, or would be otherwise inconsistent with
applicable law or regulation.
Question 8. At your hearing, you testified that you had a
conversation with Mr. Musk at Mar-a-Lago in late 2024. I understand you
told my staff this conversation pertained to Musk's DOGE efforts. What
specifically did you discuss with Mr. Musk at Mar-a-Lago?
Answer. My conversation with Mr. Musk was unrelated to my interview
with President Trump for the position of NASA Administrator. We
discussed the possibility of me volunteering to support the Trump
administration.
Question 9. According to a March 29, 2025, Wall Street Journal
report titled, ``Elon Musk's Mission to Take Over NASA--and Mars,'' Mr.
Musk called you late last year and asked you to become the head of
NASA. In your interview with my staff on April 3, 2025, you said this
reporting was ``1000 percent false.''
Yes or No: Is the above reporting from the Wall Street Journal
false?
Answer. Yes, that reporting is false.
Question 10. You testified at your hearing that you have not
discussed your plans for NASA with Mr. Musk. For the record: Since
November 5, 2024, have you ever discussed anything pertaining to NASA
with Mr. Musk?
Answer. No.
Question 11. Since November 5, 2024, have you been on any text
chains with Mr. Musk?
Answer. No.
Question 12. If your answer is yes to the above question, are any
of these text chains conducted over a private messaging application
like Signal?
Answer. N/A.
Question 13. Will you abide by all Federal records preservation and
archiving laws, if confirmed?
Answer. Yes.
Question 14. How much money have you paid to SpaceX for the two
spaceflights you purchased (Inspiration4 and Polaris Dawn)?
Answer. Pursuant to my ethics agreement, I have terminated all
space flight service agreements that I had with SpaceX and all money
paid to SpaceX for future missions has been refunded. Furthermore,
pursuant to my ethics agreement, I am committed to ensuring that these
funds are reinvested in non-conflicting passive investments. The amount
I paid to SpaceX for past missions is subject to confidentiality
obligations in my contractual agreements with SpaceX.
Question 15. According to a March 29, 2025, Wall Street Journal
report titled, ``Elon Musk's Mission to Take Over NASA--and Mars,'' you
talk ``frequently'' with SpaceX executive Michael Altenhofen, who was
recently named a NASA senior adviser.
Yes or No: Is the above reporting from the Wall Street Journal
accurate?
Answer. No.
Question 16. What role and portfolio would Mr. Altenhofen hold at
NASA under your leadership, if confirmed?
Answer. Senior Advisor to the Administrator--Aerospace Engineering.
Legal. I am aware you were detained by U.S. Custom and Border
Patrol agents in 2010 on a warrant for drawing and passing checks
without sufficient funds to a Las Vegas casino. I am aware you were
also sued on four separate occasions around this time (2008-2010) in
connection with casino debts and allegations of fraudulent checks,
which I understand you dispute.
Question 1. Do you agree that violating legal obligations is
unacceptable, irrespective of one's ability to pay any fines or other
related costs?
Answer. Yes--I agree that violating legal obligations is
unacceptable, regardless of one's financial means. That said, I believe
some additional context is important. In my early 20s, I was fortunate
to experience business success at a young age, and I spent time in
casinos as an immature hobby. The legal matters referenced were, in
fact, forms of negotiation and were all resolved promptly. The incident
at the border, following my return from the Olympics, stemmed from a
payment issue that had already been resolved, which is why I was
detained for only a few hours.
I fully acknowledge this was a brief and immature period in my
youth and a poor use of my time and resources. Since then, I've
redirected my focus toward far more meaningful and productive
pursuits--starting a family, building successful companies, developing
an accomplished aviation and space career, and engaging in significant
philanthropic efforts. I have always been transparent about these
matters in all security clearance documentation and have held a
clearance since 2013 without issue.
Mistakes made in youth don't excuse poor decisions, but I believe
growth, accountability, and public service are powerful ways to
demonstrate how far one has come.
Question 2. Can you assure the Committee that this type of behavior
is in your past?
Answer. Yes.
Climate and Earth Science. The Science Mission Directorate is an
important part of NASA that funds scientists through more than 4,000
openly competed research awards--including many in the Earth Science
Division. The Earth Science Division operates more than 20 satellites
in orbit, sponsors hundreds of research programs and studies, and funds
opportunities to put data to use for societal needs. NASA's Climate
Change webpage contains critical information based on NASA's collection
of long-term observations of the planet.
Question 1. Do you agree that man-made climate change is a real and
serious issue?
Answer. I am not a climate scientist. My background is in business,
aviation, and commercial space exploration. I am confident that the
Earth's climate has changed throughout its 4.5 billion year history. I
believe in studying the causes and consequences of these changes to
help mitigate the challenges we face on Earth as a result.
Question 2. Do you support NASA's Earth Science Division and its
efforts to develop cutting-edge sensors and data analysis technologies
that can improve Earth observations important to climate science,
weather modeling, resource management, and the mitigation and response
to natural disasters such as wildfires?
Answer. I fully support NASA's Earth Science Division and its work
to advance technologies that improve our understanding of our planet
and help respond to the challenges we face on Earth.
Question 3. Do you commit to supporting continued funding through
the Earth Science Division for research programs and researchers
focused on understanding complex Earth systems and their dynamic
interactions?
Answer. I'm not currently aware of any proposed changes to the
Earth Science Division's budget. If confirmed, I will seek to better
understand these programs and the contributions they make, and I will
advocate for investments that are aligned with NASA's mission and
deliver meaningful value to the public.
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Mr. Isaacman, in the past you
have seemed to implement diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives
into your personal and professional life. You stated prior to the
Inspiration4 mission that you did not want to send ``four rich white
guys'' to space and you also implemented DEI policies at your
companies, Draken and Shift4.
Question 1. Do you still value diversity in the workplace?
Answer. I value a merit-based culture that results in the most
capable team that reflects excellence, commitment, and character--
regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
Question 2. In your interview with my staff, you said we need the
``best and brightest'' at NASA. I agree. How did the DEI policies at
Draken and Shift4 benefit your multi-million-and billion-dollar
companies, and do you think similar policies could benefit the mission
of NASA?
Answer. I value a merit-based culture that results in the most
capable team that reflects excellence, commitment, and character--
regardless of race, gender, or sexual orientation.
Question 3. Do you think that targeting and eliminating DEI
programs and policies will discourage the ``best and brightest'' from
wanting to work at NASA?
Answer. I was not involved in any decisions to remove specific DEI
programs, but I believe that when NASA focuses on bold, challenging
missions, it will naturally attract high-caliber individuals from all
backgrounds who want to be part of something extraordinary.
Question 4. NASA websites no longer state that the Artemis 3 lunar
mission will aim to land the first person of color and the first woman
on the moon--a longstanding goal of the Artemis program since the first
Trump Administration. What message do you think it sends to the
engineers, mathematicians, and scientists of tomorrow that NASA has
taken this step to remove this language from the objectives?
Answer. I was not involved in the decision to remove that language.
What I do know is that it has been over 50 years since Americans last
walked on the Moon, and despite commitments from every President since
1989--and over $100 billion invested--we still haven't returned. Fixing
that challenge should be our highest priority. If we can't get back to
the Moon in an economic and safe way, then it won't matter who the crew
is. Mission success, especially at an agency like NASA, will ultimately
open the door to broader participation and lasting inspiration for
future generations.
Campaign Contributions. You made a $2 million contribution to the
Trump-Vance Inaugural Committee on November 27, 2024. One week later,
then-President-elect Trump posted on Truth Social his intention to
nominate you for the NASA Administrator role.
Question 1. Did anyone suggest to you that a contribution to
President Trump's Inaugural Committee would position you to be
nominated for a position in his Administration? If so, who?
Answer. I reject the premise of this question, and no one ever
suggested that a contribution would position me for a nomination.
Question 2. In July 2024, you posted on X that you ``have never
been in love with either candidate for President.'' At what point did
this opinion change?
Answer. That comment was part of a longer, multi-paragraph post
that deserves proper context. In it, I expressed outrage over the
assassination attempt and made clear that such violence has no place in
the world's greatest democracy. I also stated that I believed President
Trump would be our next President and wished him well in unifying and
leading the Nation.
To be clear, my position has not changed. I've never claimed to
``love'' politics, but I have consistently supported President Trump.
Tariffs. President Trump's tariffs are raising the cost of living,
crashing the stock market, and causing uncertainty for our business
community. As you pointed out in your testimony, most NASA programs are
``over budget and behind schedule.''
Question 1. Are you concerned that potential scarcity and cost
increases within the aerospace manufacturing supply chain caused by
tariffs will contribute to further delays and budget overruns?
Answer. I am not deeply familiar with the full details of NASA's
aerospace supply chain, but I would assume that, given the dual-use
nature of many space technologies, most of NASA's hardware is
manufactured and assembled in the United States. That domestic base
likely provides a degree of insulation from tariff-related volatility,
though I would want to better understand the nuances if confirmed.
Question 2. Tariffs pose a particular challenge for small
companies, which cannot absorb cost increases as easily as big
contractors. Are you concerned that some start-up NASA partners will be
unable to survive the uncertainty and disruption caused by the
Administration's trade war?
Answer. I support the President's broader objective of reducing the
trade deficit and bringing more high-quality manufacturing jobs back to
the United States. As someone who has led a public company for many
years, I've learned that leadership requires looking beyond short-term
market volatility to focus on long-term impact.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Brian Schatz to
Jared Isaacman
Support for Space Science
Space science is the cornerstone of NASA's work, driving
achievements and discovery and we face growing competition from China
in space science investments.
Question 1. Will you commit to increasing investment and providing
not less than the FY25 Senate level of $7.576 billion for space science
in the NASA budget, including in the fields of astrophysics, planetary
science, earth science, lunar science, and heliophysics?
Answer. I am deeply passionate about science and spoke extensively
about its importance during the hearing. If confirmed, I will advocate
for strong investment in space science--across astrophysics, planetary
science, Earth science, lunar science, and heliophysics--and for
securing as much funding as the government can reasonably allocate. I
also believe we should look to amplify these efforts through
partnerships with international partners, commercial industry, and
academia whenever possible.
Support for Astronomical Science
NASA's astrophysical observatories have received bipartisan support
over decades. They are also areas where international partnerships will
become increasingly important to bring the scale of investment needed
to support advanced scientific infrastructure.
Question 2. Will you commit to continuing NASA's leadership in
astronomy and ensuring a full return on investment by supporting the
full cost of operations for the Hubble Space Telescope and the James
Webb Space Telescope?
Answer. I am a strong believer in maximizing the value of
instruments that have already been built, funded, and are producing
meaningful scientific returns. The James Webb Space Telescope, Hubble,
and Chandra all fall into this category. I've publicly supported each
of these observatories and believe their continued operation is
essential to advancing our understanding of the universe. I'm generally
opposed to small-scale funding cuts that reduce the return on decades
of investment in world-class scientific tools.
Question 3. Will you commit to supporting the completion of the
Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope?
Answer. To my knowledge, the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope is
nearing completion and remains on schedule and within budget--something
that is unfortunately rare for flagship programs at the agency. I'm not
aware of any reason why it should be canceled, and I would support its
completion and successful deployment.
Question 4. Will you commit to funding for the Habitable Worlds
Observatory?
Answer. I'm intrigued by the Habitable Worlds Observatory and the
promise it holds, but I would need to learn more before making a
commitment. My understanding is that it's not expected to launch until
the 2040s. While I support the mission concept, I would also want to
explore whether aspects of its scientific objectives can be accelerated
through other near-term opportunities.
Question 5. What role do you think international partnerships
similar to those in the Habitable Worlds Observatory will play out in
the future?
Answer. I value international partnerships when they are focused,
well-managed, and aligned around achieving ambitious goals.
Collaboration can be a powerful multiplier when each partner is fully
committed and accountable. However, I don't believe in pursuing
partnerships simply for the optics--results matter. Effective
international collaboration will continue to play an important role in
NASA's future, especially for large-scale science missions and deep
space exploration.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Edward Markey to
Jared Isaacman
Elon Musk
In your nominations hearing, you repeatedly refused to answer
whether Elon Musk was in the meet when then-President-elect Donald
Trump offered you the position of NASA administrator. I want to give
you another opportunity to clarify that question.
Question 1. Was Elon Musk in the room when then-President-elect
Donald Trump offered you the position of NASA administrator?
Answer. My interview was with the President of the United States.
The person asking me questions--and ultimately offering me the
opportunity--was the President himself.
Question 2. How many other people were in the room when then-
President-elect Donald Trump offered you the position of NASA
administrator?
Answer. My interview was with the President of the United States.
The person asking me questions--and ultimately offering me the
opportunity--was the President himself.
Question 3. Did Elon Musk say anything when then-President-elect
Donald Trump offered you the position of NASA administrator? If so,
please describe those conversations.
Answer. My interview was with the President of the United States.
The person asking me questions--and ultimately offering me the
opportunity--was the President himself.
Question 4. The Wall Street Journal reported in March that Elon
Musk called you ``late last year'' and asked whether you would become
the head of NASA. Is that reporting accurate? If not, please describe
any inaccuracies.
Answer. No, that reporting is entirely false. Mr. Musk never called
me to discuss becoming NASA Administrator, nor did we have any
conversations about Mars-related objectives. The only call I received
regarding this position came from Secretary Lutnick, who was serving as
co-chair of the transition team. That phone interview ultimately led to
my in-person meeting and interview with President Trump.
NASA Reduction in Force
Mr. Isaacman, I am deeply troubled by the recent, seemingly rushed
decision to dissolve the Office of the Chief Scientist and the Office
of Technology, Policy and Strategy at NASA. The reported abrupt
termination of approximately 15 dedicated civil servants, individuals
with decades of invaluable experience across NASA's diverse centers and
missions, is particularly concerning. These individuals, vital to
providing unbiased, science-driven analysis, were given a mere 30-day
notice of their Reduction in Force, a move that alarmingly predated any
broader restructuring plan or even the Agency's own submission to OPM
for such action. This raises serious questions about the rationale
behind this decision, and whether it represents a troubling disregard
for scientific expertise and the critical role these public servants
play in ensuring NASA's mission is based on sound, evidence-based
policy.
Question 1. Given my concerns about the abrupt dissolution of these
offices and the loss of non-partisan, experienced civil servants
providing ``unbiased, science-driven analysis,'' as the potential next
Administrator, would you have valued having these offices and their
expertise to support you in leading NASA? Recognizing these non-
political civil servants provided mission-driven, agenda-free
contributions to agency-wide strategy and policy development, distinct
from the term appointees who led them, how would you ensure such
valuable expertise is retained and utilized under your leadership?
Answer. Over the last 26 years, I've founded, led, and grown two
successful companies, including acquiring and reorganizing
organizations to improve performance. I take great pride in assembling
high-performing teams and retaining top talent--whether in business,
aerospace, or human spaceflight. If confirmed, I intend to bring that
same approach to NASA.
Regarding the offices that were closed, I was not involved in those
decisions. If confirmed, I will review the rationale behind those
closures and evaluate whether the agency is retaining and properly
utilizing the expertise necessary to support NASA's mission and
strategic planning efforts.
Question 2. If confirmed, would you commit to reviewing the
decision to terminate these civil servants and prioritize their
reinstatement to appropriate positions within NASA? This would ensure
the agency retains their valuable experience and maintains continuity
in its scientific and strategic planning efforts.
Answer. As noted in my previous answer, if confirmed, I will review
the rationale behind these decisions and assess whether reinstating any
of these individuals would strengthen the agency's ability to deliver
on its mission.
NASA Heliophysics and Decadal Survey Priorities
Mr. Isaacman, Massachusetts was proud to see our homegrown Lunar
Environment heliospheric X-ray Imager (LEXI), developed by students and
faculty at Boston University, successfully land on the Moon aboard
NASA's Blue Ghost Mission 1 spacecraft in March. LEXI is now sending
back invaluable global images of the interaction between the solar wind
and Earth's magnetic field--data that is essential to understanding the
space environment around our planet.
Heliophysics research is foundational to protecting our
infrastructure, ensuring astronaut safety, and supporting the success
of both human and robotic missions in space.
Question 1. Given the release of the 2024 Solar and Space Physics
Decadal Survey, how do you plan to support NASA's Heliophysics Division
and advance its top priorities, including sustaining the Diversify,
Realize, Integrate, Venture, Educate (DRIVE) initiative and expanding
the cadence of the Heliophysics Explorers program, particularly the
Small Explorer (SMEX) and Mid-sized Explorer (MIDEX) missions and
Missions of Opportunity (MO)?
Answer. I believe NASA should be a force multiplier for science.
Advancing affordable, high-impact discovery must be a top priority. I'm
very supportive of SMEX, MIDEX, and similar initiatives that can
increase the cadence of meaningful scientific returns in a cost-
effective way. If confirmed, I would look forward to working closely
with the Heliophysics Division, academic institutions, and other
partners to help implement the priorities outlined in the Decadal
Survey and accelerate the rate of breakthrough discoveries.
Question 2. Do you agree that strategic investments in Heliophysics
should remain a key priority for NASA?
Answer. Given how central the sun is to our existence, it makes
sense that we'd want to know as much about it as possible.
NASA Science Mission Directorate Funding
Mr. Isaacman, NASA's science missions are foundational to the
agency's global leadership in space and to the public's trust in its
work. Programs like the Great Observatories--including Chandra, which
is operated out of my home state of Massachusetts--provide essential
data on everything from newborn stars to galaxy clusters, which cannot
be captured from Earth. It supports approximately 200 jobs requiring
highly specialized X-ray expertise.
You've previously expressed support for these observatories.
However, we've seen repeated attempts to siphon funds from the Science
Mission Directorate to cover cost overruns in the Artemis program. That
approach undermines NASA's long-term scientific mission.
Question 1. Given the importance of NASA Science to the nation, can
you commit that, under your leadership, funding for the Artemis program
will not come at the expense of the Science Mission Directorate which
manage flagship observatories like Chandra?
Answer. As you've noted, I've been very public in my support for
exploration assets like Chandra that continue to generate meaningful
scientific returns. I don't believe in cutting small-dollar programs
that are delivering real value--especially in science. If confirmed, I
will advocate for protecting those investments and ensuring that
science remains a core pillar of NASA's mission, even as we pursue
ambitious goals through Artemis and other human spaceflight programs.
NASA and Climate Data
Mr. Isaacman, from monitoring sea-level rise to polar ice loss to
wildfires, NASA's satellites are the backbone of climate research used
by scientists, policymakers, and the public across the globe.
NASA's Earth Observing System collects and archives more than 147
terabytes of data each day. This data underpins climate action efforts
at every level of government, drives global research collaborations,
and informs life-saving disaster response. It's a public good relied on
by communities worldwide.
Yet the Trump administration is undermining that work. A recent
investigation found that large swaths of climate datasets,
visualizations, and web tools--once publicly accessible--have been
altered or taken down. This unprecedented rollback of public
information compromises scientific continuity and transparency at a
time of accelerating climate threats and extreme weather events.
Question 1. If confirmed, will you commit to fully restoring and
maintaining access to data as well as resisting any political pressure
to sideline climate research?
Answer. As I mentioned during the hearing, I am not currently aware
of any restrictions related to public access to NASA data, but if
confirmed, I would look into this matter closely. I strongly support
Earth Science and believe the data NASA collects can play a critical
role in supporting the agriculture industry and mitigating the impacts
of wildfires, droughts, flooding, and other natural hazards.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Gary Peters to
Jared Isaacman
Question 1. Mr. Isaacman, I was happy to hear you say in the
hearing that it is a fundamental responsibility of NASA to inspire the
next generation. I agree that NASA's missions play a key role in doing
so. The NASA Office of STEM Engagement also develops the next
generation of scientists by providing for Michigan's Space Grant
Consortium, which funds graduate fellowships, undergraduate research
grants, faculty research grants, educational programs at the K-12
level, and NASA internships.
President Trump's previous NASA Administrator proposed zeroing out
the budget for NASA's Office of STEM Engagement--something Congress
blocked. A failure to invest in the next generation hamstrings U.S.
competitiveness and makes it difficult to build on the work we have
already invested billions in.
If confirmed, are you committed to continuing funding for NASA's
STEM education programing? Do you agree that it is important for NASA
to fund workforce initiatives that ultimately support their exploration
accounts?
Answer. I hope my track record--both through my human spaceflight
missions and my financial support for programs like Space Camp--makes
clear how much I value STEM education. As I emphasized during the
hearing, it all begins with completing the mission. It's been over half
a century since Americans last walked on the Moon. Until we deliver on
those goals, we are not living up to our full inspirational potential.
That said, I strongly support STEM initiatives that get students
excited about science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.
Question 2. Mr. Isaacman you've mentioned your passion for science
and shared that you believe President Trump is hoping to usher in a
golden age of science.
I remain deeply concerns about potential budget and staffing cuts
that would only favor funding for the exploration account. A
fundamental part of the Artemis missions are its science missions which
seek to better understand lunar resources in preparation of sending
humans to the moon. Beyond supporting exploration efforts NASA's
science budget includes programs to research things like space weather
which impacts our everyday lives.
Recent reporting suggests that OMB is planning to propose cutting
NASA's Science budget by $3.4 billion, or about 45 percent. Do you
think these cuts would reduce science capacity at the agency to unlock
the future of space?
Answer. I have not been privy to any internal budgetary planning or
decision making conversations at the agency. If confirmed, I look
forward to reviewing OMB's recommendations and working with Congress to
determine the appropriate level of funding to ensure NASA can execute
its mission. That said, I will always be an advocate for NASA and its
science portfolio.
Question 3. Recent reporting suggests that OMB is planning to
propose cutting NASA's Science budget by $3.4 billion, or about 45
percent. If confirmed, will you commit to pushing back on OMB and the
President if they recommend these cuts?
Answer. I have not been privy to any internal budgetary planning or
decision making conversations at the agency. If confirmed, I look
forward to reviewing OMB's recommendations and working with Congress to
determine the appropriate level of funding to ensure NASA can execute
its mission. That said, I will always be an advocate for NASA and its
science portfolio.
Question 4. Mr. Isaacman, in the hearing you stated your commitment
to following existing law which directs the NASA Administrator to
``establish a program to develop a sustained human presence in cis-
lunar space or on the Moon''. You also mentioned that you do not
believe that the Space Launch System is a good long-term option for
getting astronauts to and from the moon with great frequency.
Commercial heavy lift launch vehicles have been suggested as potential
alternatives for future missions to and from, but work is still being
done to make them fully operational. What do you envision as the future
alternative to the SLS and how will you ensure that NASA has the
necessary resources to partner with commercial companies and invest in
these alternatives?
Answer. As I've said before, I believe the SLS and existing Artemis
architecture represent the fastest way to get American astronauts back
to the Moon. But over the long term, it's not a sustainable or
affordable solution. Fortunately, the commercial launch market is
stronger than ever. Since SLS was first established, companies like
Blue Origin, ULA, SpaceX, and Rocket Lab have made major investments in
heavy-lift capabilities. Competition drives down costs and accelerates
innovation. In that respect, at some point the government will need to
move on from competing with commercial industry in launch and invest in
the next generation spaceship technology, what no other agency or
organization is capable of delivering, like the practical application
of nuclear propulsion.
Question 5. Programs and contracts like those in Artemis support
thousands of jobs across the U.S. manufacturing supply chain. This is
extremely important in Michigan especially where suppliers are critical
to NASA's mission and goals. Any cuts to NASA programs equate to job
cuts in Michigan and across the country.
Do you agree that part of the role NASA's programs can and do play
is to strengthen critical national security manufacturing supply chains
and jobs in aerospace?
Answer. Absolutely--but I also believe that every partner, vendor,
and program must deliver. We should be paying for results and holding
all stakeholders accountable when expectations aren't met. I'm not
putting all the responsibility on contractors--NASA's own program
management plays a role as well. But no one should be satisfied that
every President since 1989 has called for a return to the Moon and a
path to Mars, and despite more than $100 billion invested across
Constellation and Artemis, we have yet to fly a single crewed mission
around the Moon let alone land on it. That must change.
Question 6. Every year I coordinate a bipartisan letter to our
Appropriations Commerce, Science, and Justice subcommittee asking that
they support the funding necessary to ensure Artemis missions can
launch on time. Delays in the launch schedule not only delay scientific
discovery but can lead to additional costs.
What is your plan to ensure that NASA has the necessary resources
to maintain Artemis' launch schedule? If your plan is to speed up the
launch schedule, how exactly do you plan to do so?
Answer. My approach is shaped by 26 years of experience leading
high-performance teams in business, along with a background in
aerospace and commercial space. I've built companies from the ground
up, led acquisitions and turnarounds, and flown to space twice on
record-breaking missions. What I've learned is that results don't come
from slogans or slide decks--they come from leadership that's present,
hands-on, and relentlessly focused on mission execution. NASA knows
this better than anyone--based on what has been accomplished
historically--we just need to restore that mission-first culture.
If confirmed, I'll roll up my sleeves, get in the trenches with the
team, and lead a cultural and program management transformation. We'll
take a hard look at the real problems--both internal and external--that
slow progress and put timelines and budgets at risk. Key areas of focus
will include:
Reducing organizational bureaucracy to streamline
communication and accelerate decision-making
Strengthening program management with clear ownership,
defined timelines, and measurable results
Driving vendor accountability through transparent
performance metrics and consequences when expectations--
especially those owed to taxpayers--are not met
Reinforcing a culture of urgency and ownership at every
level of the agency--we don't go home until the day's problem
is solved because no one else will solve it for us--and then we
do it all over again the next day NASA has the talent and
resources to achieve the near-impossible. But when major
programs fall behind, it delays world-changing discoveries,
fails to meet our inspirational obligations, and undermines the
credibility of the agency the public entrusts with its hope for
future generations.
Question 7. Mr. Isaacman, we have seen massive reductions in
staffing across agencies. Earlier this year it was reported that NASA
negotiated with the Office of Personnel Management to avoid mass
layoffs. Additionally, there are reports that up to 5 percent of NASA's
staff already accepted a buyout agreement.
We have also heard that NASA staff are awaiting a realignment plan
that will further reduce NASA staffing numbers. You have big plans for
NASA, but I fail to see how we achieve them if we are not retaining
talent.
What is your plan to ensure that NASA remains sufficiently staffed?
How do you plan to do that in an environment where NASA's budget
decreases?
Answer. If confirmed, I hope to be in a position to lead these
discussions thoughtfully and constructively. As I stated in my prepared
remarks, I'm stepping away from my business career--and my commercial
spaceflight career--because I believe I owe a debt to this Nation and
want to contribute to NASA's extraordinary mission.
I'm not here for a title. I'm here to help the agency, not
dismantle it. And if NASA is working on what no other organization on
Earth can accomplish--world-changing missions--I believe it will
continue to attract and retain the talent it needs to succeed.
Question 8. Have you communicated with--including over messaging
app, e-mail, or in person--Elon Musk since accepting your nomination?
Answer. No.
Question 8a. If yes, what was the substance of the communication?
Answer. N/A.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Baldwin to
Jared Isaacman
1. Inspiring the Next Generation of STEM Professionals
Each year, the Wisconsin Space Grant Consortium hosts an annual
First Nations Launch National Rocket Competition. This competition
serves as an opportunity for students at Tribal Colleges and
Universities, Native American-Serving Nontribal Institutions, and
members of American Indian Science and Engineering Society chapters to
gain experience and explore engineering and design principles to
inspire these students to pursue careers in aerospace.
If confirmed, will you support programs, such as the First Nations
Launch National Rocket Competition, that encourage, inspire and train
students from diverse backgrounds to pursue careers in aerospace and
STEM?
Answer. While I am not directly familiar with the First Nations
Launch National Rocket Competition, I firmly believe it is a core
obligation of NASA to inspire the next generation to join the adventure
and reach even higher. I am a strong advocate for STEM programs--
especially those that deliver high-impact outcomes from relatively
small investments.
2. Role of Commercial Space Industry
In your testimony, you briefly discussed the importance of
determining the future of the space economy before the de-orbiting of
the International Space Station.
Why do you believe scientific innovation alone is not justification
to continue investing in the ISS or future space stations? What do you
picture the future of the space economy to look like and what economic
value do you envision discovering if you are confirmed? What role do
you believe commercial space companies should play in determining the
economic activity in space?
Answer. Like millions of others, I envision a future where humanity
becomes a spacefaring civilization, rich in scientific discovery and
exploration. But I'm also realistic--budgets are not unlimited. For
space to reach its full potential, we must unlock its economic value.
If the ISS or future space stations are to continue operating in the
long term, they cannot rely solely on government funding; there must be
a pathway toward sustainable commercial engagement.
If confirmed, I would welcome input from the best and brightest
across NASA, academia, and industry. In the near term, I believe the
greatest opportunities are in the pharmaceutical and biotech sectors,
where the microgravity environment can yield breakthroughs. Over the
medium term, mineral extraction and on-orbit manufacturing may also
become economically viable.
Commercial space companies should play an active and collaborative
role in shaping this future. Alongside international partners and
academic institutions, they can help identify the highest-potential
science and research that will ignite a true space economy. NASA's role
should be to lead, convene, and help de-risk that future--while keeping
its focus on what no other agency or organization can accomplish.
3. NASA Budget
It has been reported that the preliminary version of President
Donald Trump's budget calls for a cut of 47 percent to NASA science.
If NASA's budget is cut by 47 percent, how would this impact future
science projects at NASA? Would any projects be fully terminated?
Answer. If confirmed, I look forward to reviewing OMB's
recommendations and working with Congress to determine the appropriate
level of funding to ensure NASA can execute its mission. That said, I
will always be an advocate for NASA and its science portfolio.
4. Conflicts of Interests
During your hearing, you refused to answer whether Elon Musk was in
the room when President Trump interviewed you and offered you the NASA
Administrator appointment.
Question 4a. To your knowledge did Elon Musk recommend your
nomination to President Trump?
Question 4b. Do you believe it would have been improper for Elon
Musk, who holds extensive contracts with NASA and deep conflicts of
interest, to be in attendance for a nominee's interview with the
President for the NASA Administrator appointment? If no, why?
Answer to 4a and 4b. I've heard that several retired Generals and
Admirals I worked with while running my defense company had recommended
me for different positions. I also had just returned--about two months
before my nomination--from a record-breaking space mission. During that
mission, my crew and I traveled farther from Earth than any humans in
more than half a century. Two of my crewmates became the women who have
traveled farthest from Earth, and we conducted dozens of research
experiments, tested a new EVA suit during a `spacewalk', and pioneered
next-generation communications--all widely covered in the media. So,
while the nomination personally came as a surprise and an honor, it
does not seem that unusual that my name was being circulated.
It is not my place to speculate on hypothetical situations. As I've
said previously, my interview was with the President of the United
States. He asked the questions, and he made the decision.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Jacky Rosen to
Jared Isaacman
Future of Space Stations
The request for proposals for phase two of the Commercial Low Earth
Orbit Development Program is expected to define NASA's level of
investment and commitment, awarding contracts to two or more commercial
providers to ensure redundancy and competition for services, which are
essential to driving innovation and economic growth.
Question 1. Given the critical need for these providers to be
operational before the ISS deorbits, if confirmed, how do you plan to
ensure the timely development and deployment of these stations?
Answer. There are two parallel priorities I would focus on if
confirmed.
First, we need to prioritize the highest-potential science and
research on the ISS that could help ``crack the code'' on a sustainable
orbital economy. These commercial stations won't succeed unless there's
a strong value proposition in space, and NASA has a role to play in
identifying and advancing the research that could unlock it--
particularly in sectors like biotech, pharmaceuticals, and advanced
manufacturing.
Second, we need to identify and clear the obstacles currently
holding back commercial providers--whether they're technical,
financial, regulatory, or bureaucratic. That means working closely with
the companies involved, understanding where delays or hardships are
occurring, and eliminating roadblocks wherever possible.
We are on the clock with the ISS's end of life timeline. If
confirmed, I will do all I can to bring urgency and focus to ensuring a
successful transition that doesn't leave a gap in our presence in low
Earth orbit or jeopardize the emergence of a true space economy.
NASA's Commitment to Commercial LEO Destinations (CLDs) Project
Commercial space companies have expressed concerns about
overburdensome requirements, regulatory delays, indemnification, and
the unpredictability of NASA's commitment to Commercial LEO
Destinations project.
Question 1. How will you ensure continuous presence in space and
prevent a funding or policy gap that could undermine the success of
these private space stations?
Answer. One of the greatest accomplishments of the ISS has been its
ability to sustain human life in low Earth orbit over long durations.
Meanwhile, the cost of transporting astronauts to and from LEO has come
down significantly from prior generation vehicles like Shuttle. So, the
challenge today isn't launch--it's the economic viability of commercial
LEO destinations.
As currently contemplated, these future stations will rely in part
on government subsidies, but that model is unlikely to be sustainable
in the absence of a real on-orbit economy. That's why I emphasized
during my testimony how critical it is to maximize the remaining life
of the ISS--not just to continue exploration, but to crack the code on
the space economy and give commercial providers the best possible
chance to succeed. If confirmed, I'll prioritize this effort and do all
I can to ensure a seamless transition that avoids a gap in presence and
purpose in LEO.
Question 2. Given your private sector background, what changes
would you advocate for in NASA's approach to managing technical
requirements, cost, schedule, and risk to make it more agile and
commercially friendly while maintaining accountability?
Answer. To start, I'm not convinced the current system enforces any
real accountability. Programs run over budget, fall behind schedule,
and the only consequence seems to be cancellation. That's not
sustainable for an agency with world-changing goals.
If confirmed, I will get in the trenches to understand the root
causes. It's clear that bureaucratic layers have formed--often serving
their own preservation rather than the mission. In the private sector,
resources--whether people, capital, infrastructure, or leadership--are
aligned around clear goals with defined outcomes and performance
metrics. That makes it easy to spot when something is off track and
implement course corrections early.
I intend to bring that mindset and my experience running two large,
successful companies--including in aerospace--into NASA. The agency
doesn't lack talent or capability; it needs a clearer alignment between
mission and execution, and a mission-first culture that values
execution, ownership and urgency. That's how we'll restore momentum and
complete the ambitious goals the Nation expects from NASA.
NASA EPSCoR Funding
One of my top priorities in Congress is supporting growth in STEM
fields by investing in education and workforce training that will
bolster STEM opportunities for everyone. As you know, NASA EPSCoR is a
joint federal-state program designed to allow more states to
participate in space and aeronautics research. In Nevada, schools such
as the University of Nevada, Reno and the Desert Research Institute
rely on NASA EPSCoR seed funding for research and scholarships in order
to enhance STEM opportunities.
Question 1. How can Congress further support the ESPCoR program and
ensure NASA can continue to grow the program's reach and its diversity
in scientific research?
Answer. As I mentioned during my testimony, NASA has a fundamental
obligation to inspire the next generation to join this grand adventure
and aim even higher. That inspiration starts by getting back to the
mission--landing astronauts on the Moon and Mars, launching new
telescopes, and delivering breakthrough scientific discoveries that
captivate the world.
But inspiration alone isn't enough--we also need to provide
pathways for participation. Programs like EPSCoR are essential because
they help connect students and researchers from underserved regions and
institutions to the opportunities that NASA provides.
Initiatives in STEM Funding
I'm proud to have introduced several bipartisan STEM-related bills
over the past several years, including my STEM RESTART Act with Senator
Hyde-Smith, the Rural STEM Act with Senator Wicker--which was included
in the CHIPS and Science Act--and the Building Blocks of STEM Act with
Senator Capito, which was signed into law in the 116th Congress.
However, there is still more work to be done, particularly in breaking
down barriers that stand in the way of students of all ages and
backgrounds from pursuing STEM education and STEM careers.
Question 1. How can NASA work to break down barriers to young
people in STEM so that in the future you have the workforce you need to
continue to make scientific breakthroughs?
Answer. I firmly believe that if NASA can deliver on the mission--
what no other agency or organization on Earth can achieve--then
recruiting, retention, STEM engagement, and inspiration will largely
take care of themselves. That's the first step: accomplish bold, world-
changing goals that ignite imagination and ambition.
But we also have to create tangible pathways for participation that
also serve NASA's mission. As I mentioned in my remarks, NASA should be
a force multiplier for science--leveraging its talent, infrastructure,
and partnerships to push down opportunities to academia.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to
Jared Isaacman
Question 1. I recently introduced legislation to hold special
government employees, like Elon Musk, accountable and prevent them from
acting in their own financial interest. I'm concerned to hear media
releases that discuss SpaceX's connection to China, specifically, the
article published March 26, 2025, titled ``How Elon Musk's SpaceX
Secretly Allows Investment from China,'' which details how investors
from China buy stakes in the company as long as funds are routed
through offshore hubs. As you know, Musk's company SpaceX has been
awarded many NASA contracts, including their human lander system (HLS)
for the Artemis moon missions. I understand that the contracting
officer at NASA who awarded SpaceX this contract now works for SpaceX
overseeing the Starship development. Do you believe that companies with
contracts like the HLS should receive investment from China? Will NASA
proactively identify and mitigate conflicts of interest and enforce
government transparency?
Answer. I'm not familiar with the specific article or any related
claims regarding a particular vendor. That said, I would hope that
NASA--and the broader U.S. government--have implemented the appropriate
safeguards to ensure open, fair competition while also protecting
against influence from geopolitical adversaries. If confirmed, you can
count on my full commitment to protecting American interests, ensuring
transparency, and maintaining a level playing field that advances our
national security and space leadership.
Question 2. Commercial providers have put forth faster and cheaper
solutions than the current NASA architecture has laid out. If
confirmed, can you ensure that NASA will fairly consider all commercial
procurement options to fund multiple industry concepts through early
design phases to maximize innovation?
Answer. Competition is a core ingredient of our economic system--
and I'm a strong believer in its power to drive both innovation and
affordability. If confirmed, I will ensure that NASA remains open to
new ideas and that we create space for commercial solutions to be
evaluated fairly, particularly in early-phase development where
multiple concepts can unlock future capability and cost efficiencies.
Question 3. Congress has consistently supported the development of
a sustainable Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) economy, including utilizing
microgravity research, space-based manufacturing, and human
spaceflight, while leveraging commercial platforms to reduce government
costs and expand market opportunities. What role do you see for NASA in
ensuring the United States is a leader in capabilities such as space-
based manufacturing and microgravity research?
Answer. As I stated in my prepared remarks and throughout my
testimony, unlocking a sustainable space economy is imperative. After
more than 60 years of space exploration, the space economy remains
centered around launch, observation, and communications--largely funded
by government contracts. That is not enough for the future we all
imagine in space.
If confirmed, I will prioritize identifying the highest-potential
science and research opportunities--especially in areas like
biotechnology, pharmaceutical development, and on-orbit manufacturing--
and work closely with commercial partners, academia, and international
allies to help ignite a true economic engine in space.
Question 4. NASA's Commercial Low-Earth Orbit Development Program
is critical to ensuring that China does not surpass the U.S. in
leadership in LEO. The recently introduced NASA Transition
Authorization Act pushes NASA to down select to two commercial
providers by March of 2026, with one being operational by 2030. What
actions will you take to ensure an orderly transition to commercial
space stations to maintain our continuous human presence? What are the
key challenges you foresee in ensuring there is no gap in human
presence in LEO, and how should NASA support a smooth handover to
commercial platforms?
Answer. Keeping astronauts alive in space for long durations is one
of the ISS's greatest achievements. Meanwhile, the cost of launching to
and from LEO has declined steadily over the decades. So the challenge
isn't the continuous `heart beat' in space--it's the economic viability
of commercial space stations.
As they are currently structured, many commercial platforms are
expected to rely on government subsidies, yet we haven't seen a self-
sustaining on-orbit economy emerge. That's why, during my testimony, I
emphasized the importance of making the most of the ISS's remaining
lifespan--to help crack the code on the space economy and give
commercial providers the best possible shot at success. If confirmed, I
will make this a priority and ensure NASA provides the technical,
logistical, and strategic support needed for a seamless transition.
Question 5. Will you commit to supporting the development of a
national strategy for commercial spaceports, funding for spaceports,
and best practices that could be led by NASA?
Answer. I believe it is a national security vulnerability to have
too few facilities for the launch and recovery of space vehicles. If
confirmed, I would work with the Department of Defense, FAA, and other
stakeholders to ensure the United States has the infrastructure
capacity to meet the growing demands of national security, commercial,
and civil space operations.
Question 6. The Suborbital Crew Program (SubC) offers government
employees, including NASA astronauts and researchers, the opportunity
to train aboard suborbital vehicles as a part of their preparations for
longer-durations missions. The SubC program is also a way for
astronauts to practice on experiments they might be conducting in
microgravity in the future. Can you provide an update and explain your
support for utilizing additional flight training in space and more time
in microgravity for our NASA astronauts and researchers through the
SubC program? After all, the first American in space flew a suborbital
mission and we can all agree on the benefits Alan Shepherd's flight had
on the future of the Astronaut Corps.
Answer. Suborbital spaceflight offers meaningful microgravity
experience at significantly lower cost and likely lower risk than
orbital missions. It's an efficient capability that we should be using
to prepare astronauts and researchers for longer-duration missions and
experiment validation.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to
Jared Isaacman
STEM & Science Missions
NASA's missions fulfill national goals and advance science. From
the Artemis Mission to return to the moon, the Hubble and James Webb
Space Telescopes, and returning samples collected from asteroids and
Mars, space is a powerful tool to attract students to STEM fields.
Question 1. Mr. Isaacman, in what way could these key NASA missions
inspire the next generation of scientists?
Answer. Exactly right--NASA inspires by doing the mission. When we
accomplish the near-impossible, when we explore the unknown and deliver
breakthrough discoveries, we ignite the imagination of the next
generation. That's how students choose to pursue science, technology,
engineering, and math--not just because they're told to, but because
they want to be part of something bold and meaningful.
Hubble has inspired the world for decades. Now it's time to get the
next generation of telescopes into orbit--and astronauts on the Moon
and eventually Mars. That's how we continue the cycle of inspiration
and achievement.
Question 2. If confirmed, will you commit to prioritizing the
advancement of NASA's existing portfolio of science and STEM missions,
including funding new and existing space telescopes and partnerships
with academic institutions?
Answer. Consistent with my testimony, I want NASA to be a force
multiplier for science. That means launching more missions--more
telescopes, more probes, more rovers--and deepening partnerships with
academia (and their healthy endowments) to ensure students and
researchers are active participants in that work.
If confirmed, you can expect me to be a passionate advocate for
science. The discoveries we make--and the way we make them--are
foundational to both our national competitiveness and our ability to
inspire future generations.
Artemis and Gateway
NASA is currently partnering with commercial space companies to
return astronauts to the moon and establish an orbiting lunar outpost
that can be used for scientific research and as a pathway for missions
to Mars.
Question 3. How do you plan to prioritize exploration on the Moon
under the Artemis Program, led by NASA in collaboration with commercial
partners?
Answer. As I've stated in previous responses and during my
testimony, I believe the current Artemis architecture is the fastest
path to landing American astronauts back on the Moon--something every
President has called for since 1989. That said, it's clear the program
has struggled with cost, schedule, and execution. Over $100 billion has
been invested in this effort, and yet we still haven't flown humans
around the Moon let alone landing on it.
If confirmed, I will focus on getting Artemis back on track. That
means working alongside NASA leadership, commercial partners, and
program managers to address the root causes of delays--bureaucracy,
program misalignment, and lack of accountability--and restoring a
mission-first culture across the agency. We must deliver results,
demonstrate progress, and prove to the world that NASA can once again
achieve the extraordinary.
Question 4. If confirmed, how will you plan for human exploration
on Mars while maintaining a consistent lunar presence?
Answer. Artemis is the current plan, but that doesn't preclude
parallel efforts to pursue the President's inspiring and ambitious goal
of sending American astronauts to Mars. In fact, many of the
technologies and capabilities NASA is already investing in--such as
surface nuclear power systems, nuclear electric propulsion, and nuclear
thermal propulsion--are highly relevant for Mars exploration, though
they remain underfunded and subscale. Additionally, commercial partners
under Artemis are developing very heavy-lift launch vehicles that could
support both lunar and Mars missions.
Mission Priorities
The Mars Sample Return mission is key to advancing our
understanding of the red planet. NASA also conducts missions that
observe the Earth to help support water conservation, forest health,
and crop management.
Question 5. How will you balance NASA's priorities between
planetary exploration and Earth Science missions?
Answer. I am passionate about all of NASA's science and exploration
missions--including both planetary and Earth sciences. Prioritizing
these efforts isn't about choosing one over the other, but rather about
identifying where the greatest breakthroughs are possible.
Some of this prioritization is guided by the decadal survey
process, which I fully respect. But if confirmed, I would work closely
with NASA's experts and stakeholders to evaluate missions based on
their scientific promise, potential economic value, and relevance to
national security. Whether we're uncovering the secrets of other worlds
or advancing our understanding of Earth, the goal is the same: to
deliver meaningful, world-changing results.
Spectrum
Space operators rely on spectrum during launch, to support in-space
operations, and for transmitting scientific data and imagery from Earth
observations. As commercial uses of spectrum continue to increase, it
is important to ensure that Federal agencies can continue conducting
their missions while using spectrum efficiently.
Question 6. How does NASA plan to continue working with Federal
partners such as the NTIA and FCC to ensure sufficient spectrum is
available to support science, commercial, and national security
missions in a growing space ecosystem?
Answer. If confirmed, I would advocate for preserving the spectrum
NASA requires to fulfill its on-orbit mission requirements. That said,
I also believe we can take a proactive approach to reducing future
demand.
Several commercial companies are already investing in advanced
technologies like optical/laser forms of communications, which offer
high-bandwidth alternatives to traditional systems.
Space Debris
Satellites and space stations can be damaged or destroyed by
orbital debris, threatening human lives in addition to commercial and
national security missions in space. Globally, other nations are
pursuing demonstration missions to refine their technologies to
remediate space debris.
While NASA has studied space debris issues extensively, the U.S.
cannot fall behind in deploying its own technological capabilities.
Question 7. How can NASA help catalyze investments in developing
and demonstrating technologies on-orbit, such as active debris removal,
to support the safe and resilient use of space?
Answer. As I mentioned during my hearing, I'm very familiar with
this issue--MMOD (Micrometeoroid and Orbital Debris) was the greatest
threat to both of my space missions. While I'm not opposed to investing
in active debris removal technologies, we need to be clear-eyed about
the real challenge: the majority of the risk comes from millimeter-
sized debris traveling at orbital velocities--objects too small to see
or track but large enough to cause serious damage.
From a policy standpoint, the best thing we can do is stop making
the problem worse. That means stronger international norms and
accountability around responsible behavior in space--such as proper
deorbiting practices, ending destructive ASAT testing, and avoiding
uncontrolled satellite breakups, which are often caused by less
responsible foreign actors.
International Space Station
The International Space Station (ISS) is scheduled to operate
through 2030, providing a platform for human presence in space and an
opportunity to perform scientific research in microgravity.
Currently, NASA is working with the commercial sector to support
the development of future commercial LEO destinations, which will
maintain the United States' presence in LEO and offer the opportunity
for continued microgravity research on-orbit.
Question 8. How do you recommend NASA manage the ISS transition to
ensure a safe deorbit plan while maintaining continued U.S. presence in
low earth orbit?
Answer. To my understanding, NASA has already held a competition
and selected a vendor to support the safe deorbiting of the ISS.
As such, my priority would be to maximize the remaining value of
the ISS before it is decommissioned. We must prioritize the highest-
potential science and research that can be conducted on the station--
and do everything possible to ``crack the code'' on an on orbit
economy. The success of commercial LEO destinations will depend on what
we learn and accomplish now.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to
Jared Isaacman
NASA's Space Grant program has played a critical role in expanding
STEM education and research opportunities in states like Delaware.
Question 1. If confirmed, will you commit to supporting the Space
Grant program and ensuring its continued funding?
Answer. Programs like Space Grant help turn that inspiration into
action by providing hands-on opportunities, academic support, and real
pathways into the workforce. If confirmed, I would strongly support
efforts that connect students to NASA's mission and help develop the
talent needed to lead in space, science, and innovation.
Question 2. How do you view NASA's role in fostering STEM education
and workforce development through programs like Space Grant?
Answer. Inspiring the next generation to pursue careers in STEM is
a fundamental obligation of NASA. Programs like Space Grant help turn
that inspiration into action by providing hands-on opportunities,
academic support, and real pathways into the workforce. If confirmed, I
would strongly support efforts that connect students to NASA's mission
and help develop the talent needed to lead in space, science, and
innovation.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to
Olivia Trusty
Question 1. Many in Congress, including myself, are committed to
ensuring broadband connectivity across the country. However, the
Universal Service Fund--an annual, multi-billion-dollar program--has
operated with minimal oversight or accountability from Congress since
its establishment in 1996. This has led to significant mission creep,
particularly during the Biden administration with respect to its
unlawful expansion of the E-Rate program.
As the ``contribution base'' has continued to shrink, there have
been increasing calls to expand that base--more accurately, to broaden
the consumer tax burden--to additional sectors and services. As I
stated in my Blueprint for USF Reform, expanding the base alone would
not reduce the amount consumers pay but merely change the method of
collecting their payments. It would conceal, rather than fix, mission
creep and unaccountable spending and undermine incentives for the FCC
to lower costs or improve program performance.
Expanding the revenue base before pursuing spending reform also
puts the cart before the horse. As you acknowledged at your hearing,
there are over 100 different overlapping broadband programs at 15
different Federal agencies. As such, before expanding the tax base, it
is necessary to examine what the programs themselves are paying for and
to what extent they continue to be necessary. Spending reform must
precede revenue reform.
Do you agree that reform to root out mission creep and waste,
fraud, and abuse must be pursued before revenue reform?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. As we discussed in my office, will you commit not to
expand the contribution base beyond clear, current FCC authority
without explicit Congressional action to authorize such expansion?
Answer. Yes.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Dan Sullivan to
Olivia Trusty
Alaska Connect Fund
Question 1. In Alaska, communications access is critical for our
communities, yet the terrain is unlike anywhere else. The weather is
extreme. The building season is short. And, the permitting process is
challenged by Federal land ownership. No other state has so many remote
communities that are unconnected from any other infrastructure such as
roads or utilities.
Providers face numerous challenges from an abbreviated construction
season, to lack of commercial power, to the need to charter flights to
conduct maintenance and repairs, and more.
In recognition of Alaska's challenges, the FCC has long recognized
the importance of embracing flexible policies for Alaska.
Will you commit to making sure that FCC policies are flexible so
that they reflect the unique circumstances facing providers and need to
tailor their universal service obligations accordingly?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working at the FCC to promote
policies, including policies that involve universal service
obligations, that are flexible and reflect the unique connectivity
needs in Alaska.
Outdated Media Ownership Requirements
Question 1. Chairman Carr has called this a ``break glass moment
for local broadcasting'' and has said that he will be looking at the
current local broadcast ownership rules and seeing which ones are no
longer necessary because of all of the disruption in the media
marketplace and the many different ways people consume media.
Updating, and in some cases eliminating these ownership rules, is
important for a state like Alaska if we want to continue to receive
important local news and information.
I am a strong supporter of local broadcast stations in my home
state of Alaska. They provide important news, weather and emergency
information to my constituents. These stations and stations across the
country face economic challenges today due to market competition. These
economic issues can lead to a reduction in their local news coverage,
which we've seen in areas of our state.
Ms. Trusty, will you work to ensure that the FCC is pro-active in
adopting policies that protect local stations' ability to continue to
serve their key role in our communities, including by relaxing
ownership rules that were enacted decades ago when the media space
looked very different from today?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to promoting policies that protect
local stations' ability to continue to serve their key role in
communities across this country so that local broadcasters can better
compete for viewers, programming, and advertising revenues in today's
vibrant and dynamic media and video marketplace.
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Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Marsha Blackburn to
Olivia Trusty
Question. As you know, arrangements requiring musical performers to
play at broadcast station events in exchange for airplay--particularly
when coupled with threats of reduced airplay for non-compliance--
violate the FCC's payola rules. These rules prohibit broadcasters from
making programming decisions based on receiving anything of value
without on-air disclosure of such consideration. Last month, after I
sent a letter to the FCC, Chairman Carr issued an enforcement advisory
addressing complaints that broadcasters are coercing musical artists to
perform for free at station events or festivals by threatening to
reduce their airplay if they refuse. If confirmed, will you commit to
protecting American artists and continued vigilant enforcement of the
FCC's payola rules?
Answer. Yes.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Todd Young to
Olivia Trusty
Undersea Cables
Question 1. As global demand for data capacity grows and
geopolitical competition intensifies, undersea cable infrastructure has
become increasingly vital to national security, economic
competitiveness, and digital resilience.
What is the FCC's plan to support the private sector's increasing
demands for greater deployment of subsea infrastructure?
Answer. The FCC is actively reviewing subsea cable rules for the
first time since 2001 through a notice of proposed rulemaking initiated
in November 2024. Information collected through this proceeding will
help inform the FCC's next steps pertaining to streamlining the
licensing process of subsea cable infrastructure; more efficient
coordination with Federal agencies regarding subsea cable projects; and
enhancing the national security of this critical infrastructure.
Question 2. What gaps do you see in FCC oversight of subsea
infrastructure development and usage?
Answer. Today the FCC lacks sufficient transparency into the
foreign ownership of undersea cable infrastructure development, as well
as the security measures that subsea cable operators are implementing
to protect this critical infrastructure from sabotage, disruption, or
compromise.
Question 3. What can Congress do to better support the FCC's
undersea cable efforts?
Answer. To support the FCC's undersea cable efforts, Congress could
do the following: help promote more U.S.-led undersea cable projects to
reduce potential security risks stemming from the foreign ownership of
undersea cables; explore the diversification of undersea cable traffic
patterns or routes to ensure there is no single point of failure if
there is a cable outage due to sabotage or natural disasters; and
strengthen disaster recovery and emergency response plans for undersea
cables that have been compromised.
NextGen Television Standard
Question 1. Ms. Trusty, two years ago Senator Schatz and I wrote a
letter to the FCC that was signed by 26 of our colleagues asking the
Commission to expedite the continued rollout of the Next Generation
Television Standard, or ATSC 3.0. The current standard, HD, has been
around for almost 30 years and the new standard, NextGen, is a pro-
consumer, innovative technology that not only provides viewers with
much better picture and audio quality but also allows for targeted
weather and emergency alerts. Just this week, the FCC invited public
comment on a petition for rulemaking on this very issue, underscoring
the growing momentum and continued interest in accelerating the
modernization of this important technology.
If confirmed, can you commit to working with your colleagues,
Congress and industry to ensure the transition to NextGen TV happens
expeditiously and in a way that benefits television viewers?
Answer. Yes.
FCC International Leadership/Standard Setting
Question 1. The Federal Communications Commission (FCC), alongside
other U.S. government agencies, is tasked with ensuring that American
interests and values are effectively represented in these forums. Given
the strategic importance of emerging technologies like 5G, satellite
communications, and cybersecurity standards, U.S. engagement and
leadership in global discussions is more important than ever.
How do you view the FCC's role in international standard-setting
bodies, and what steps can the Commission take to strengthen U.S.
leadership in those forums?
Answer. The FCC works in coordination with the State Department and
NTIA to ensure that global standards align with U.S. regulatory
frameworks and technical priorities to foster more efficient, cost
effective and interoperable communications services around the world.
To strengthen U.S. leadership in these global forums, the FCC can work
with the State Department and NTIA to develop a unified U.S. strategy
in advance of global meetings and conferences and support efforts to
build coalitions among international allies and partners. This will
help ensure the United States is better positioned to counter those
seeking to undermine U.S. values and interests in global forums.
Question 2. What are the risks if the U.S. does not actively
participate or lead in global standard-setting conversations?
Answer. If the U.S. does not actively participate or lead in global
standards-setting forums, we risk losing our ability to lead in the
development of next-generation communications technologies as well as
our ability to lead in emerging technologies, such as artificial
intelligence and quantum computing. Maintaining an active U.S. presence
in these global forums is foundational to our continued ability to
promote human flourishing, economic competitiveness, and national
security.
Question 3. How can the FCC better coordinate with other Federal
agencies, like NTIA or the State Department, to present a unified U.S.
position internationally?
Answer. Coordination among the FCC, State Department, and NTIA is
essential to advancing the United States' economic and national
security interests abroad. This coordination can be guided by
interagency working groups, memoranda of understanding, or joint
strategic plans that define roles, responsibilities, and procedures for
coordination and could provide strategic roadmaps for advancing U.S.
interests in international forums.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Curtis to
Olivia Trusty
Question 1. Local TV and radio stations are the backbone of our
communities. They remain one of the last and best sources of local news
in the areas they serve. But these local broadcasters are at risk of
being left behind as FCC ownership rules--many of which predate the
internet--limit their ability to compete with new forms of news
consumption, like social media. Do you believe the FCC's media
ownership rules are still appropriate in today's digital landscape? Why
or why not?
Answer. The media marketplace has changed dramatically over the
last two decades. This change has been driven largely by technology
advancements and changes in consumers preferences. Today, U.S.
consumers now have access to a variety of programming options across
multiple platforms, which makes for a more personalized television
viewing experience.
To ensure that local broadcasters and radio stations can compete
and support their vital news gathering operations in the midst of this
technological change, the FCC has a responsibility to modernize its
regulatory framework to reflect the realities of this vibrant and
dynamic media marketplace. Modern rules will better position local
broadcasters and radio stations to compete for viewers, advertising
revenues, and programming, which can ultimately foster greater
investments into local news and investigative journalism in communities
across the country.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Shelley Moore Capito to
Olivia Trusty
R-DOF Transparency
Question 1. Miss Trusty, thank you for your willingness to serve on
the FCC. I enjoyed our conversation, and as I mentioned I care about
the Rural Digital Opportunity Fund. I am looking forward to getting my
Rural Broadband Protection Act signed into law, which will improve R-
DOF and other programs on the front end, but I have questions about how
the program is being carried out right now.
I would like to see a greater level of public reporting, such as
state-by-state milestone reports for providers and their committed
locations which would provide greater visibility into the progress of
the program. This type of reporting would provide assurance that
program participants are on track and expected to meet required
milestones. Moreover, the FCC could detail its methods for performance
testing and verify that service is being delivered as reported.
Can you commit to working to improve transparency in R-DOF?
Answer. Yes.
Designated Market Areas
Question 2. I am glad to see the Chairman's ``Delete, delete,
delete,'' effort underway. There are lots of burdensome regulations
that the FCC should review. One that I have heard about from my state
are Designated Market Area requirements for TV providers. Some parts of
my state are forced to watch D.C. or Pittsburgh channels rather than
West Virginia stations.
Do you agree that D-M-A requirements should be reviewed?
Answer. I agree that D-M-A requirements should be reviewed as part
of efforts to expand access to local news in West Virginia and other
states across the country.
Local Broadcasters
Question 3. Staying on the broadcast topic, West Virginians trust
and rely on their local stations more than any other media entity.
Chairman Carr has stated that the local broadcast industry is at a
``break glass moment.''
Do you agree with that, and if so, what do you think can be done to
ensure the industry's survival and allow it to better compete with the
increasing threats from Big Tech in the marketplace?
Answer. I agree with Chairman Carr that the local broadcast
industry is at a ``break glass moment.'' To ensure local broadcasters
can survive, I believe that the regulatory framework governing the U.S.
media and video marketplace needs to be modernized to help broadcasters
better compete against Big Tech for viewers, programming, and
advertising revenues. I believe this will help increase localism and
diversity, and advance the public interest in the media and video
marketplace.
WV Visit
Question 4. West Virginia is unlike any other state in terms of
deploying broadband and if confirmed, I would like to host you in the
state to get to see some of our challenges first hand.
Can you commit to visiting West Virginia as a member of the FCC
with me?
Answer. Absolutely. I would be honored to visit West Virginia.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to
Olivia Trusty
Local journalism. As discussed at your confirmation hearing, I
believe local journalism is more important than ever, as are the local
broadcast stations that serve their communities with access to trusted,
on-the-ground news and reporting. The public deserves relevant,
authentic local news that tells them what is happening in their
communities.
Our democracy relies on open debate, and no government official
should use their authority to stifle reporting, interfere with
editorial decisions, or undermine constitutional rights. To ensure that
the public continues to have access to trusted, non-partisan
information, we need to find ways to help broadcasters serve their
communities free from government intimidation.
Question 1. How can the Federal Communications Commission (FCC, the
Commission) promote local journalism?
Answer. The FCC can promote localism by modernizing the regulatory
framework governing today's media marketplace. Modernizing rules can
help local broadcasters and radio stations compete against Big Tech for
viewers, advertising revenues, and programming. Broadcasters can then
be better positioned to invest more resources into local news and
investigative journalism in communities across the country.
Question 2. Would modernizing FCC regulations like the treatment of
virtual multichannel video programming distributors (vMVPDs) help level
the playing field for local journalism?
Answer. It is important for the FCC to conduct a holistic review of
FCC regulations governing the media marketplace and modernize those
rules based on information in the record. Such information will likely
inform how the FCC should move forward to best increase the
availability of local news and enhance local broadcasters' ability to
compete against vMVPDs.
Media and Free Speech Protections. Free speech is paramount under
our laws, but we have witnessed the Trump Administration's efforts to
target major outlets and smaller broadcast stations alike in repeated
attacks against the truth. President Trump's FCC Chair, for example,
has launched unprecedented attacks on the freedom of the press, using
sham investigations to pressure and harass regulated companies in an
effort to intimidate and bully them into submission.
Question 1. Do you believe that the FCC should be weaponized
against media organizations?
Answer. No.
Question 2. Will you reject efforts by the Commission to impede or
restrict the freedom of the press?
Answer. Yes.
Question 3. Should the FCC exercise its regulatory powers,
including but not limited to merger approvals, spectrum authorization,
and licensing authority, to threaten companies simply if they do not
agree with the current administration?
Answer. No.
Affordable Connectivity Program. The Affordable Connectivity
Program (ACP) helped 23 million households pay for essential broadband
service before it ran out of funding last year. I have long been
concerned that we don't have the right strategy to make broadband
affordable for all Americans.
Question 1. Ms. Trusty, you said that affordable broadband was one
of your top priorities. How will you accomplish this at the FCC?
Answer. If confirmed, I will work to expand access to affordable
broadband by promoting more competition and choice in the broadband
marketplace. I believe that more choice in the marketplace will lead to
lower prices for consumers. I will also work to remove regulatory
barriers that increase the cost of deploying broadband for providers
and ultimately increase the cost of purchasing broadband services for
consumers.
Question 2. Do you believe that the ACP should be renewed?
Answer. I support the Committee's continued efforts to expand
access to affordable broadband. I would ultimately defer to Congress as
to whether the ACP should be renewed.
Universal Service Fund. Promoting universal access to
telecommunications services is one of the FCC's core principles. In
Section 254 of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, Congress
directed the FCC to advance universal access to telecommunications
services that are essential to education, public health, or public
safety, and that are consistent with the public interest, convenience,
and necessity. Yet the Universal Service Fund (USF) is at risk due to
legal challenges to the FCC's ability to administer the Fund, and to
Congress's right to direct the FCC to advance the goals of universal
service. Moreover, a bipartisan group of members of this Committee has
been working to ensure that the FCC can continue in its mission to
offer connectivity to modern communications for all.
Question 1. Yes or no: Will you support the Commission's efforts to
advance universal service, consistent with the public interest,
convenience, and necessity, for services essential to education, public
health, and public safety?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. While I am aware that the issue is currently being
litigated, do you believe that Section 254 and the USF are legal?
Answer. It would be imprudent for me to prejudge the legality of an
issue that is currently being challenged before the Supreme Court.
Free and Open Internet. Connectivity in the 21st Century depends
upon access to a free and open Internet that protects consumers,
competition, and innovation, and promotes public safety and national
security. As the expert agency on communications, the FCC's policies
must advance access to broadband without preference for any content or
traffic online, and without favoring any particular service,
technology, or provider.
Question 1. Should Internet service providers be allowed to block
websites or content?
Answer. I believe that Congress is best positioned to determine the
rules governing Internet service providers' network management
practices to ensure the continuation of a highly competitive, robust,
and innovative Internet economy that is available to all Americans. If
confirmed, I would welcome the opportunity to be a part of any
legislative effort related to this issue.
Question 2. Should Internet service providers be allowed to
prioritize a website or a service by speeding it up or slowing down
other content in exchange for payment?
Answer. I believe that Congress is best positioned to determine the
rules governing Internet service providers' network management
practices to ensure the continuation of a highly competitive, robust,
and innovative Internet economy that is available to all Americans. If
confirmed, I would welcome the opportunity to be a part of any
legislative effort related to this issue.
Question 3. Since the first Trump Administration repealed net
neutrality rules in 2017, the FCC has received approximately 40,000
consumer complaints about Internet service providers concerning
``speed, throttling, open internet, and data cap'' concerns. Do you
believe the FCC has a role to play in addressing these complaints?
Answer. The FCC has a responsibility to investigate consumer
complaints and act as necessary in accordance with facts in the record,
FCC precedent, and the FCC's authorities under the law.
Tribal Coordination and Outreach. Washington State is home to 29
federally recognized Tribes, each with their own Tribal government
working to preserve culture, protect resources, and improve the lives
of those in their communities. Accessing modern communications like
broadband is an essential tool for advancing these goals and requires
coordination at the local, state, and Federal level.
Question 1. Yes or no: Do you commit to working with Tribal
governments on broadband connectivity and deployment issues relevant to
their communities?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. If confirmed, will you advance policies at the FCC that
recognize the sovereignty of Tribal governments and encourage
coordination with Tribal representatives?
Answer. Yes
Question 3. Recently, the Commission has invested in targeted
outreach efforts to increase participation of Tribal libraries in the
E-Rate program. If confirmed, what steps will you commit to continuing
to prioritize support for Tribal libraries? What steps will you take to
ensure such outreach continues, and what recommendations will you make
to improve the Commission's efforts?
Answer. The Universal Service Fund and the programs it supports are
facing an uncertain future, in part, because of a shrinking
contribution base. If confirmed, I commit to working with Congress and
interested stakeholders to identify a ``specific, predictable, and
sufficient'' form of support that empowers the FCC to continue
addressing connectivity needs across the country, including the
connectivity needs of Tribal libraries. I also commit to making
recommendations and working within the Commission to streamline
application processes, provide technical assistance, and promote the
availability of digital literacy and workforce development programs in
Tribal communities to improve the Commission's efforts to expand access
to modern communications services in these areas.
988. In recent years, the FCC has played an integral role in
expanding access to 988--The Suicide & Crisis Lifeline, first by
designating a three-digit number to make it easier for those in crisis
to reach help, then by supporting texting to 988, and most recently by
implementing geo-routing to route callers to their closest 988 call
center. Yet the Trump Administration's cuts to the Federal workforce,
including massive cuts at the Department of Health and Human Services,
threaten to cripple support and staffing resources for 988, cutting off
access to critical mental health services, including for the LGBTQIA+
community, veterans, and Spanish speakers.
Question 1. If confirmed, will you support policies at the FCC that
will continue to promote and expand access to 988 for all who need it,
regardless of background, sex, gender, race, or creed?
Answer. Yes.
Robocalls and Robotexts. In your testimony, you pledged to protect
consumers from illegal robocalls. Washingtonians receive tens of
millions of robocalls each month, and one study in 2024 suggests that
Washington consumers are among those who receive the most spam calls in
the country. Unwanted text messages are also a growing nuisance.
Question 1. How will you work to reduce the number of unwanted, and
often fraudulent, robocalls for all Americans, including consumers in
Washington State?
Answer. If confirmed, I will work with Congress to help strengthen
the FCC's authorities to combat unwanted and fraudulent robocalls. I
will also work with international partners as well as state attorneys
general to protect consumers from these abusive calls. If confirmed, I
also commit to supporting efforts to develop more proactive call
blocking measures to prevent robocalls from reaching consumers in the
first place.
Question 2. Do you support regulations that work to reduce the
number of spam text messages?
Answer. I support the idea that new regulations may be necessary to
reduce the number of spam text messages.
Cyber Security. The United States has been under increasing cyber-
attacks by hostile foreign powers, notably China and Russia. Last year,
Chinese hackers, as part of the Salt Typhoon attack, hacked into U.S.
telecom networks and monitored phone calls and text messages, targeting
prominent figures, including Vice President J.D. Vance.
Question 1. What is the FCC's role in mitigating attacks like Salt
Typhoon, and what should the FCC do to help prevent future attacks?
Answer. To mitigate future attacks like Salt Typhoon, the FCC has a
responsibility to work with Federal partners to ensure
telecommunications providers have the tools and resources they need to
defend their networks against malicious cyber threat actors. To prevent
future attacks, I believe the FCC should participate in ongoing whole-
of-government conversations about how to improve the efficacy of the
United States' deterrence efforts against nation state actors. The FCC
should also work with Federal partners and the private sector to
diversify and strengthen the U.S. domestic supply chain for
telecommunications network components to increase the security of the
Nation's communications infrastructure.
Public Media. Public media provides a vital community service by
offering local content, breaking news, and weather. But public
television and radio stations are under attack by the Trump FCC, where
the current Chair has initiated sham investigations to intimidate
public media organizations that the President has deemed unfavorable.
Question 1. If confirmed, will you support policies that promote
and preserve public media in communities across the country?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that public media can
operate in accordance with the law.
FCC Independence. Congress established the FCC to oversee some of
the most important institutions in our society, including the media
industry. Because of this influence, the FCC is an independent agency
and not subject to direct presidential control.
President Trump is now wrongfully trying to bring independent
agencies under his control, recently firing the two Democratic
commissioners at the Federal Trade Commission, another independent
agency.
Question 1. Do you believe it is important for the FCC to be
independent of the President?
Answer. Whether agencies like the FCC are legally independent from
the Executive Branch is subject to pending litigation. Whatever the
FCC's legal status is determined to be, my commitment to this Committee
and to Congress is that I will follow the facts in the record, FCC
precedent, and the law with respect to any proceeding before the
Commission, if confirmed.
Question 2. Do you believe that the FCC benefits by having both
Democratic and Republican Commissioners to debate and decide on policy
and regulatory issues?
Answer. If confirmed, I will strive to reach consensus with
everyone and anyone at the FCC in carrying out the agency's mission.
Question 3. If confirmed, do you commit to carrying out your duties
independently?
Answer. If confirmed, I will be guided by the facts in the record,
FCC precedent, and the law with respect to any proceeding before the
Commission.
Question 4. Would you support the President's firing of an FCC
Commissioner due solely to their political affiliation?
Answer. I would defer to the President, the Senate, and the Courts
regarding the oversight and management of nominees.
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. President Trump's FCC Chair has
initiated a startling display of agency overreach by sending letters to
three regulated companies--Comcast-NBCUniversal, Verizon, and Disney/
ABC--informing them of investigations into their DEI practices. These
letters, which cite concerns about each company's compliance with the
FCC's equal employment opportunities rules, target policies that the
Chair labels as ``invidious forms of DEI discrimination'' when they are
in fact focused on encouraging and cultivating business opportunities
for a diverse and qualified workforce.
Question 1. Do you agree that a private company should be able to
make a business decision to prioritize diversity free from FCC
interference and second-guessing?
Answer. In accordance with Section 151 of the Communications Act,
the FCC has a responsibility to make sure communications services are
available to all Americans without discrimination on the basis of
protected characteristics, including ``race, color, national origin, or
sex''. The FCC also has a responsibility to enforce civil rights
protections contained in Sections 334 and 554 of the Communications Act
regarding equal employment opportunity. If confirmed, my commitment is
to uphold and enforce the law.
Bipartisan cooperation. Nominees to fill open seats on independent
commissions are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate.
This Committee has long worked with the White House to ensure that
there is bipartisan cooperation when there are vacant seats to be
filled by both parties.
Question 1. Yes or no: Will you commit to working with this
Committee and responding to any inquiries, regardless of party?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. Yes or no: Do you support having a fully staffed FCC
with five Commissioners, including two Democrats?
Answer. If confirmed, my job will be to work with everyone and
anyone at the FCC to carry out the mission of the agency. I would defer
to the President, the Senate, and the Courts on the oversight and
management of FCC nominees.
Question 3. Yes or no: Do you think the American people benefit
from having a fully staffed FCC?
Answer. I believe that the American people benefit when the FCC
operates efficiently in carrying out its mission; is responsive to the
connectivity needs of unserved or underserved communities across the
country; and is a good steward of taxpayer dollars.
Tariffs. President Trump's tariffs are raising the cost of living,
crashing the stock market, and causing uncertainty for our business
community.
Ms. Trusty, you spoke about the importance of affordable broadband.
A recent study by Price Waterhouse Coopers found that these tariffs
could raise costs in the telecom and technology sectors by $126
billion.
Question 1. Yes or no: Do you think that these tariffs will make
broadband less affordable?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
Question 2. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will make
broadband more expensive to deploy?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
Question 3. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will increase
costs for entities participating the USF's High Cost program? If so,
how should the Commission address those increased costs?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
As a general matter, to address any unanticipated increased costs
in the USF High Cost program, the FCC should focus on removing Federal
regulatory barriers, and working with states and localities to remove
state and local regulatory barriers, to reduce the cost of broadband
deployment. The FCC should also work to strengthen and diversify the
Nation's domestic supply chain to promote more competition and choice
in telecommunications components and equipment, which can further
reduce the cost of broadband projects in the USF High Cost program.
Question 4. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will increase
costs for entities participating the USF's E-Rate program? If so, how
should the Commission address those increased costs?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
As a general matter, to address any unanticipated increased costs
in the E-Rate program, the FCC should focus on removing Federal
regulatory barriers, and working with states and localities to remove
state and local regulatory barriers, to reduce the cost of broadband
deployment to schools and libraries. The FCC should also work to
strengthen and diversify the Nation's domestic supply chain to promote
more competition and choice in telecommunications components and
equipment, which can further reduce the cost of broadband projects to
schools and libraries.
Question 5. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will increase
costs for entities participating the USF's Lifeline program? If so, how
should the Commission address those increased costs?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
As a general matter, to address any unanticipated increased costs
in the Lifeline program, the FCC should focus on removing Federal
regulatory barriers, and working with states and localities to remove
state and local regulatory barriers, to reduce the cost of broadband
deployment, which will ultimately reduce costs for end-users. The FCC
should also work to strengthen and diversify the Nation's domestic
supply chain to promote more competition and choice in
telecommunications components and equipment, which can further reduce
the cost of broadband projects, and reduce the cost of broadband
services for low-income consumers.
Question 6. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will increase
costs for entities participating the Universal Service Fund's Rural
Health Care program? If so, how should the Commission address those
increased costs?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
As a general matter, to address any unanticipated increased costs
in the USF Rural Health Care program, the FCC should focus on removing
Federal regulatory barriers, and working with states and localities to
remove state and local regulatory barriers, to reduce the cost of
broadband deployment projects that support access to health care in
rural communities. The FCC should also work to strengthen and diversify
the Nation's domestic supply chain to promote more competition and
choice in telecommunications components and equipment, which can
further reduce the cost of broadband projects and promote access to
health care in unserved or underserved communities.
Question 7. Yes or no: Do you think that tariffs will increase
costs for entities participating in the FCC's Secure and Trusted
Communications Networks Reimbursement Program? If so, how should the
Commission address those increased costs? Will Congress need to
appropriate additional funds to remove untrusted Chinese telecom
equipment from U.S. networks?
Answer. I am not an economic or finance policy expert and cannot
offer an informed opinion on tariffs. That said, I have full faith and
confidence in President Trump and his team to address trade imbalances
that ultimately benefit the Nation's long-term domestic economic
interests.
As a general matter, to address any unanticipated increased costs
in the FCC's Secure and Trusted Communications Networks Reimbursement
Program, the FCC should promote the adoption of Open RAN technologies
to diversify and strengthen the Nation's domestic supply chain. This
can help promote more competition and reduce the cost of
telecommunications equipment. To my knowledge, there is not a current
need for Congress to appropriate additional funds to remove untrusted
Chinese telecom equipment from U.S. networks.
Spectrum. During the first Trump Administration, there were
failures to coordinate on Federal and commercial spectrum policy.
I believe we must create a coordinated approach to domestic
spectrum policy, where agencies such as the Federal Aviation
Administration, Department of Transportation (DOT), Department of
Defense (DoD), and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration work
together with the National Telecommunications and Information
Administration (NTIA) and FCC--cooperatively--on spectrum.
Question 1. How should the FCC coordinate spectrum auctions with
Federal agencies, if authority is reinstated, to ensure that critical
Federal systems and capabilities are not compromised or diminished?
Answer. I believe that the FCC should coordinate with NTIA and
consult with impacted Federal agencies, through established mechanisms
such as the Interdepartment Radio Advisory Committee to ensure that
spectrum management decisions, including auctions, are informed by
economic and national security analyses.
Question 2. Yes or no: Do you agree that we cannot put our national
security and public safety at risk to free up spectrum for sale to the
commercial sector?
Answer. Yes.
Question 3. Yes or no: Do you agree that proper coordination of
spectrum use is vital?
Answer. I agree that coordination between the FCC and NTIA on
spectrum, as well as consultation with impacted Federal agencies, is
vital to putting spectrum to highest and best use and advancing the
Nation's economic and national security interests.
Question 4. Do you think it's wise to auction Federal spectrum
before technical studies are finished to determine the viability of
relocating Federal systems?
Answer. I believe that technical studies can help inform the
spectrum management process and ensure that both NTIA and the FCC are
putting spectrum to its highest and best use, in support of the
Nation's economic and national security interests.
Question 5. If confirmed, will you commit to collaborating on a
spectrum policy that engages stakeholders from NTIA and the Department
of Commerce, DoD, DOT, and industry, to work towards resolution to
restore U.S. leadership in innovation?
Answer. Yes.
Question 6. Do you believe that spectrum reallocation studies in
the Lower 3 GHz and 7/8 GHz need to be completed before the FCC begins
a proceeding to auction those bands?
Answer. Given that this is an active topic of debate before
Congress, I would defer to Congress on how the technical studies of
these bands should inform spectrum management processes at NTIA and the
FCC.
Question 7. Do you agree that if the DoD is required to surrender
use of a band of frequencies for which the DoD is the primary user that
the NTIA must make available, if necessary, an alternative band of
frequencies as replacement for the band being surrendered as described
in Section 1062(b)(1)(B) of the 2000 NDAA?
Answer. I agree that Section 1062 (b)(1)(B) of the FY 2000 NDAA
states the following: ``If, in order to make available for other use a
band of frequencies of which it is a primary user, the Department of
Defense is required to surrender use of such band of frequencies, the
Department shall not surrender use of such band of frequencies until:
the National Telecommunications and Information Administration, in
consultation with the Federal Communications Commission, identifies and
makes available to the Department for its primary use, if necessary, an
alternative band or bands of frequencies as a replacement for the band
to be so surrendered.''
Question 8. Do you agree that the Secretary of Commerce, the
Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
must jointly certify to the Committee on Armed Services and the
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation of the Senate, and
the Committee on Armed Services and the Committee on Commerce of the
House of Representatives that the alternative band that is made
available to the DoD provides comparable technical characteristics to
restore essential military capability that will be lost as a result of
the band of frequencies to be so surrendered as described in Section
1062(b)(1)(B) of the 2000 NDAA?
Answer. Yes.
Question 9. Did this process occur in advance of FCC Auction 110 of
the 3.45 to 3.55 GHz Band where the DoD was the primary user?
Answer. I was not at the FCC during this time and therefore cannot
speak to what processes did or did not occur in advance of Auction 110.
Question 10. Will you commit to me that you will follow the law and
not vote to auction a band of frequencies where the DoD is the primary
user unless and until the process as described in Section 1062(b)(1)(B)
of the 2000 NDAA is completed?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to following the law with respect to
any proceeding that comes before the Commission.
Section 230. Congress passed Section 230 in 1996 to provide a
liability shield for the then-nascent Internet industry. While there
have been discussions in Congress about updating the law, the FCC has
rejected the idea that it has the authority to enforce Section 230
since it was passed nearly 30 years ago. But the current FCC Chairman
is now talking about attempting to interpret the law to say that the
FCC can police what is said online, and that they will do so to favor
conservative voices online.
Question 1. Do you agree that it is Congress's role, not the FCC's,
to update Section 230?
Answer. I agree that Congress has the authority to amend or update
Section 230 in the Communications Act.
Question 2. Do you believe that online platforms have First
Amendment rights?
Answer. Yes.
Mapping. It is critical that we have the best data to make
important decisions about where to expend taxpayer funds for broadband
deployment. While the FCC has improved its broadband maps over the last
few years, more remains to be done. I am particularly concerned that
the current maps wholly rely on providers' assertions about the speed
and availability of their service.
Question 1. Will you commit to working with me and this committee
to continue to improve the FCC's broadband maps?
Answer. Yes.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Amy Klobuchar to
Olivia Trusty
Next Generation 9-1-1
Our 9-1-1 systems are outdated and in need of significant upgrades.
As co-chair of the Senate Next Generation 9-1-1 Caucus, I've been
working to secure funding to modernize America's 9-1-1 call centers
through spectrum auction proceeds.
Question 1. Do you agree we need to modernize our 9-1-1
infrastructure?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. If confirmed, will you commit to working with Congress
to ensure America's 911 Centers have the cybersecurity, resiliency, and
interoperability that Next Generation 911 technology provides?
Answer. Yes.
Question 3. What concrete measures should the FCC prioritize to
promote Next Generation 9-1-1 deployment?
Answer. To promote Next Generation 9-1-1 (NG911) deployment, the
FCC can do the following: proactively enforce Commission rules against
fee diversion to ensure resources are available for NG911 deployment;
support the development of interoperability standards between states
and localities to ensure nationwide NG911 interoperability; and promote
public awareness and education about the benefits of NG911 technology
to incentivize greater investments into the technology.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Brian Schatz to
Olivia Trusty
DOGE Access to FCC
Reports have found that individuals identified as employees of DOGE
have been listed in a public directory for FCC staff. Within the scope
of FCC's jurisdiction includes policy and regulatory matters, including
broadband and satellite communications, of relevance to Elon Musk's
business interests.
Question 1. Will you commit to ensuring that DOGE employees are
conducting activities that do not pose any conflicts of interest with
Elon Musk's business interests?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to acting without fear or favor
toward any individual or entity petitioning the FCC for a certain
outcome regarding any proceeding before the Commission regardless of
who is employed at the FCC or any other Federal agencies.
Question 2. Will you commit to ensuring DOGE employees abide by
appropriate cybersecurity standards and data access restrictions if
provided access to internal FCC systems and information?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to abiding by cybersecurity
standards and data access restrictions to internal FCC systems and
information, and ensuring that all individuals under my authority do
the same.
White House Oversight of Independent Agencies
On February 18, 2025, President Trump announced an Executive Order
(EO) entitled, ``Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies.'' The EO
institutes an unprecedented requirement for direct presidential
oversight over actions and strategic plans by independent agencies,
including the FCC.
Question 3. As Commissioner, will you commit to upholding the
independence of decision making at the FCC?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to making decisions based on facts
in the record, FCC precedent, and the law.
Federal Trust Responsibility to Tribal and Native Communities
It is critical that the United States continues to uphold its trust
responsibility to Tribal and Native communities.
Question 4. Please provide a description of your understanding of
the Federal trust responsibility to American Indians, Alaska Natives,
and Native Hawaiians, and how that necessitates continuance of programs
that directly and indirectly serve these communities.
Answer. The Federal Indian trust responsibility is a legally
enforceable fiduciary obligation on the part of the United States to
protect tribal treaty rights, lands, assets, and resources, as well as
a duty to carry out the mandates of Federal law with respect to
American Indian, Native Hawaiian, and Alaska Native tribes and
villages.
Question 5. At FCC, will you commit to upholding this trust
responsibility?
Answer. Yes.
Question 6. Yes or no, will you commit to holding Tribal
consultation before the FCC makes changes to programs that serve
Tribes, or engages in Reductions in Force and agency reorganization
efforts that may affect Tribes and service on Tribal lands?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to consulting with a wide range of
stakeholders, including Tribes, on proceedings that come before the
FCC.
Question 7. Yes or no, will you continue to abide by the NTIA-FCC-
Department of the Interior Tribal Spectrum Memorandum of Understanding
(MOU)?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to abiding by any and all MOUs in
force and effect that involve the FCC's coordination with other Federal
agencies.
Question 8. Given the growing competition for mid-band spectrum
between military and commercial users, how should policymakers view
Tribal governments in this dynamic?
Answer. Given that spectrum is a finite resource, policymakers
should always strive to put spectrum to its highest and best use and
maximize the economic and societal benefits of spectrum use to ensure
the best return for all people across the country, including those
living on Tribal lands.
Question 9. Do Tribes represent a unique category of spectrum
stakeholders, and what role does direct access to spectrum for them
play in expanding competition in underserved areas?
Answer. In Auction 108 (2.5 GHz), the FCC established a Tribal
priority window in recognition of the unique connectivity needs and
challenges facing Tribal lands. This particular auction can help inform
how future opportunities for direct access to spectrum in Tribal
communities can expand competition in unserved or underserved areas.
Question 10. Yes or no, will you commit to maintaining the Office
of Native Affairs and Policy at the FCC?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with the hardworking and
dedicated staff at the FCC to address the Nation's connectivity needs
across the country, including on Tribal lands.
Question 11. Yes or no, will you commit to issuing internal
guidance clarifying that Executive Order 14151 does not apply to Tribes
and Tribal programs, as well as services and staff associated with the
Commission's government-to-government relationship with Tribes?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to upholding and enforcing the law,
which requires the FCC to make communications services available across
the country without discrimination on the basis of protected
characteristics. I also commit to promoting policies that acknowledge
and support the unique connectivity needs of individuals, families, and
communities living in rural and remote areas, including Tribal lands.
Next Generation Television/ATSC 3.0
In 2023, I co-authored a bipartisan letter, signed by 28 senators,
to the FCC urging the Commission to take an active role in a successful
ATSC 3.0 transition. This transition will play an important role in
supporting the competitiveness of local TV broadcasters and the
services they provide to their communities, including expanded local
news, advanced emergency alerting, and improved viewer experience.
Question 12. Will you commit to ensuring that the FCC provides a
timely regulatory framework and next steps for this initiative?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working to ensure that the FCC
provides a timely regulatory framework and next steps for this
initiative.
Question 13. Will you commit to ensuring the FCC takes an active
role in addressing potential challenges posed by the transition from
ATSC 1.0 to 3.0, including working with Congress, public broadcasters,
industry, and consumer groups to ensure that consumers with legacy TVs
are not harmed by any changes?
Answer. Yes.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Edward Markey to
Olivia Trusty
Disability Accessibility
People with disabilities rely on accessible services, including
Telecommunications Relay Services, audio description, and accessible
software to communicate and access video programming. The FCC has been
tasked by Congress in numerous laws to ensure telecommunications and
video programming providers make their services and products
accessibility to people with disabilities.
Question 1. If confirmed, will you commit to carrying out these
laws and to ensuring the FCC fully enforces the laws within its
jurisdiction, including the Communications and Video Accessibility Act?
Answer. Yes.
Question 2. If confirmed, will you ensure that the FCC itself
maintains accessible websites, facilities, and services so that the
public and employees with disabilities can fully benefit from,
participate in, and contribute to the FCC's work?
Answer. Yes.
Question 3. If confirmed, will you commit to ensuring that people
with disabilities continue to be able to access emerging communications
services as technology evolves?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working to ensure that people
with disabilities can continue to access emerging communications
services consistent with the law and the scope of the FCC's authority.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Gary Peters to
Olivia Trusty
FCC Independence
Question 1. The FCC website states that the FCC is ``an independent
U.S. government agency overseen by Congress.'' We have unfortunately
seen this President undermine independent agencies by illegally firing
Democratic commissioners at the Federal Trade Commission.
a. Do you agree that the FCC is an independent agency?
Answer. Whether Federal agencies like the FCC are legally
independent from the Executive Branch is subject to pending litigation.
Whatever the FCC's legal status is determined to be, if confirmed, I
commit to following the facts in the record, FCC precedent, and the law
with respect to any proceeding that comes before the Commission.
b. What protections and practices make the FCC an independent
agency?
Answer. Whether Federal agencies like the FCC are legally
independent from the Executive Branch is subject to pending litigation.
Whatever the FCC's legal status is determined to be, if confirmed, I
commit to following the facts in the record, FCC precedent, and the law
with respect to any proceeding that comes before the Commission.
c. If confirmed, will you commit to carrying out the FCC's mission
free from undue influence or control from the President?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to following the facts in the
record, FCC precedent, and the law with respect to any proceeding that
comes before the Commission.
Weaponization of the FCC
Question 2. President Trump has suggested on multiple occasions
that licenses for major news organizations like CBS, ABC or NBC should
be revoked when they conducted reporting he disagreed with. However,
under the first amendment, major news organizations can and should
publish news that is inconvenient or critical of politicians--including
the President--without fear of retaliation.
This isn't a partisan concern either--in 2017 former FCC Chairman
Ajit Pai said: ``Under the law, the FCC does not have the authority to
revoke a license of a broadcast station based on the content of a
particular newscast.''
If confirmed, will you oppose any attempt to weaponize the FCC to
intimidate news media or limit freedom of the press?
Answer. Yes.
Public Broadcasting and Emergencies
Question 3. Public television and radio stations play an integral
role in our Nation's emergency alert system. In 2022, FEMA selected CPB
to administer the Next Generation Warning System (NGWS) grant program,
providing public media stations funding to replace and upgrade
infrastructure to expand alert, warning, and interoperable
communications, creating a more resilient and secure public alerting
system during emergencies.
Delta College Public Media, which serves a largely rural and
underserved audience in the crook of Michigan's thumb, received a grant
allocation of up to $976,708 under this program. Modernizing emergency
communications to be able to reach underserved areas is becoming
increasingly crucial--particularly with recent ice storms in northern
Michigan causing widespread power outages and a complete wipeout of
phone and cellular services.
If confirmed, do you commit to working to preserve this important
funding stream to CPB and supporting public media stations' efforts to
reach underserved communities during emergencies?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that public media can
operate in accordance with the law. I would defer to Congress on
preserving funding streams to CPB as the FCC has no authority over
these funds.
Public Broadcasting Community Good
Question 4. Public broadcasting plays an essential role in local
news and programming, education, public safety, and more. For 2025,
Congress appropriated $535 million to the CPB, which is less than 1/
100th of a percent out of the total budget and costs, on average, only
$1.50 per American per year.
In my state, the Michigan Learning Channel is a publicly funded
statewide initiative to improve math and literacy, and I always like
watching Michigan Out-of-Doors, a program which promotes the outdoor
recreation and beauty our state has to offer.
Do you agree that public media plays an essential role in
communities that traditional profit-based broadcasters are not able to
fill?
Answer. Public television was formally created in the late 1960s
through the Public Broadcasting Act to serve and promote cultural,
educational, and civic engagement. The FCC has a responsibility to
ensure that public media (i.e., non-commercial stations) operate
legally and in the public interest. I would defer to Congress as to
whether public media plays an essential role in today's video and media
marketplace.
Support for USF
Question 5. You discussed in your testimony and during the hearing
that one of your primary goals on the FCC will be closing the digital
divide.
One of the FCC's most powerful tools to that end has been the
Universal Service Fund, which supports rural broadband, Internet access
at schools and libraries, affordability, and more. As a member of the
bipartisan USF Working Group, I know reforms are needed to make this
fund sustainable for decades to come. Unfortunately, the USF has been
under attack.
Do you agree that the Universal Service Fund is a vital resource
that must be maintained in some form if we are to close the digital
divide?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to advancing and preserving
universal service, as required by Section 254 of the Communications
Act, to meet the connectivity needs of all Americans. I also commit to
working with Congress to identify a ``specific, predictable, and
sufficient'' form of support for the FCC to continue expanding access
to modern communications services to communities across the country.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Baldwin to
Olivia Trusty
1. Robocalls and Scams
Robocalls and ever increasingly sophisticated scams pose a serious
threat to millions of Americans, especially to our seniors. These scams
can lead to significant financial losses including people losing their
life's retirement savings, breach of sensitive personal information,
and loss of peace of mind as people are bombarded by these spam
communications.
As Commissioner of the FCC, how would you work to protect Americans
from these increasingly dangerous scam calls and text messages?
Answer. If confirmed, I will work with Congress to help strengthen
the FCC's authorities to combat unwanted and fraudulent robocalls. I
will also work with international partners as well as state attorneys
general to protect consumers from these abusive calls. I will also
support efforts to develop more proactive call blocking measures to
prevent robocalls from reaching consumers in the first place.
2. Local Programming
Unfortunately, Wisconsin is home to a number of ``orphan counties''
who find themselves put into out of state television media markets and
are unable to access local programming such as local news and local
sports.
If confirmed, will you work with my office to address the issue of
``orphan counties'' and help ensure Americans are able to obtain access
to local, relevant television programming?
Answer. Yes.
3. Rural Connectivity
In your testimony you emphasized the importance of quality Internet
connection for people to fully participate in our increasingly digital
economy.
As Commissioner, how would you work to increase broadband
connectivity in rural areas? Additionally, how would you ensure that
connectivity is financially accessible?
Answer. If confirmed, I would work to increase broadband
connectivity in rural areas by doing the following: coordinating with
other Federal agencies with broadband programs to eliminate program
fragmentation and duplication across the Federal government and ensure
Federal resources are better targeted to unserved areas; remove
regulatory barriers that impede or increase the cost of deploying
broadband to rural areas; embrace new technologies such as satellite
broadband or fixed wireless services that can provide a more cost
effective solution in expanding connectivity to rural, unserved areas;
and consider adjustments to USF programs to better target resources to
unserved communities.
To ensure connectivity is financially accessibility or affordable,
if confirmed, I will work to promote more competition and choice in the
broadband marketplace, which can improve the quality of service and
reduce costs for consumers. I will also work to remove regulatory
barriers that increase the cost of deploying broadband for providers
and increase the cost of purchasing broadband services for consumers.
4. 988-lifeline
The 988-lifeline program is a vital resource for Americans,
offering support in critical times of need. LGBTQ+ people, especially
youth, experience increasing rates of suicide, with these individuals
being 8.4 times more likely to have reported an attempt to end their
lives.
To continue to support all Americans in times of need, will you
commit to ensuring all existing FCC support services and resources for
LGBTQ+ people will remain accessible?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to ensuring that FCC support
services and resources are accessible to all Americans, including
LGBTQ+ individuals.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to
Olivia Trusty
Martha Wright-Reed Just and Reasonable Communications Act
Question 1. In 2023, my bipartisan Martha Wright-Reed Just and
Reasonable Communications Act was signed into law to prevent prison
telecom providers from gouging consumers when they call their
incarcerated loved ones. Last year, the FCC voted unanimously to
implement the law, cutting the cost of a fifteen-minute phone call to
or from large jails from as much as eleven dollars to just ninety
cents. The FCC also took the first step and slashing the cost of video
calls by implementing an interim rate cap on video calls as they
collect more data.
Had you been a member of the FCC last year, would you have joined
all the other Commissioners in voting to adopt the rule implementing my
Martha Wright-Reed Just and Reasonable Communications Act?
Answer. In light of pending litigation regarding the FCC's
implementation of the Martha Wright-Reed Just and Reasonable
Communications Act, I believe it would be imprudent for me to comment
or speculate on what I would have done, if I had been a member of the
Commission. That said, if confirmed, I commit to protecting consumers
from exploitation in the telecommunications marketplace.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Jacky Rosen to
Olivia Trusty
Network Security
Our adversaries continue to grow more sophisticated and aggressive
in their cyberattacks, including those in the telecom sector. A big
part of network security is not just ensuring we have secure hardware--
though I am thankful we secured additional funding last fall for ``Rip
and Replace'' to help providers use trusted equipment--but
increasingly, our networks must have sophisticated and dynamic defenses
against network intrusions, like Salt Typhoon.
Question 1. What do you see the FCC's role in promoting secure
networks and cybersecurity?
Answer. To mitigate future attacks like Salt Typhoon, the FCC has a
responsibility to work with Federal partners to ensure
telecommunications providers have the tools and resources they need to
defend their networks against malicious cyber threat actors. To prevent
future attacks, I believe the FCC should participate in ongoing whole-
of-government conversations about how to improve the efficacy of the
United States' deterrence efforts against nation state actors. The FCC
should also work with Federal partners and the private sector to
diversify and strengthen the U.S. domestic supply chain for
telecommunications network components to increase the security of the
Nation's communications infrastructure.
Question 2. If confirmed, what steps would you take to move the
telecom sector forward in adopting better cybersecurity practices and
standards?
Answer. If confirmed, I will promote the adoption of Open RAN
technologies that can help strengthen and diversify the Nation's
telecommunications supply chain and increase network security. I will
also promote the use of the FCC's authorities in the Secure and Trusted
Communications Networks Act to ban high-risk equipment and vendors from
the Nation's communications infrastructure. If confirmed, I would also
focus on increasing the security of undersea cable infrastructure to
better protect the Nation's economic and national security interests.
USF Cybersecurity
Hackers are increasingly targeting schools and health care
organizations in ransomware attacks. In fact, Clark County School
District was the target of a ransomware attack in 2023 that exposed the
sensitive information of over 200,000 Nevada students. The previous FCC
chair established a cybersecurity pilot program within the USF's E-Rate
program, allowing schools and libraries to use E-rate funding for
cybersecurity expenses.
Question 1. If confirmed, would you support actions like this pilot
program and work with Congress to help protect schools from ransomware
attacks?
Answer. Schools are a target-rich environment for cyber-attacks
because they have legacy infrastructure that is vulnerable to
exploitation and they store a lot of sensitive personal information. If
confirmed, I commit to working with schools and libraries to strengthen
their cybersecurity defenses from ransomware attackers and other cyber
threat actors.
Broadband Affordability
Ensuring that communities can afford broadband is just as critical
as building the networks themselves, and not every option is
affordable. Satellite Internet providers like Elon Musk's Starlink can
be much more expensive for consumers than fiber or fixed wireless
service. With monthly fees from $120 to $500, these prices are simply
out of reach for many low-income and rural households.
Question 1. If confirmed, would you support expanding the FCC's
Lifeline program to provide a more robust, ACP-like subsidy--so that
affordability doesn't remain a barrier for newly connected communities,
and the investments in broadband deployment translate into meaningful
adoption?
Answer. If confirmed, I will work to expand access to affordable
broadband by promoting more competition and choice in the broadband
marketplace. I believe that more choice in the marketplace will lead to
lower prices for consumers. I will also work to remove regulatory
barriers that increase the cost of deploying broadband for providers
and ultimately increase the cost of purchasing broadband services for
consumers.
I believe the FCC needs to work urgently with Congress to identify
a ``specific, predictable, and sufficient'' form of support to continue
meeting connectivity needs across the country, before making
significant reforms to the USF programs.
Tribal Priority Windows
The FCC's 2.5 gigahertz Tribal Priority Window, enacted by former
Chairman Pai in 2020, helped hundreds of Tribes claim spectrum and
deploy broadband where commercial providers failed to reach. The
upcoming AWS-3 auction presents a similar opportunity--and it could be
done without significantly delaying the auction or impacting the value
of the licenses.
Question 1. If confirmed, would you support creating future Tribal
Priority Windows or other public interest set-asides to ensure Tribal
Nations and unserved communities can access spectrum and grow their
communities directly, rather than waiting on commercial deployment?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to putting spectrum to its highest
and best use and maximizing the economic and societal benefits of
spectrum use to ensure the best return for all people across the
country, including those living on Tribal lands. In Auction 108 (2.5
GHz), the FCC established a Tribal priority window in recognition of
the unique connectivity needs and challenges facing Tribal lands. This
particular auction can help inform how future opportunities for direct
access to spectrum in Tribal communities can expand competition and
access to modern communications services in unserved or underserved
areas.
CBRS & DOD
Since the FCC finalized the rules for the CBRS band, we have seen
it being used in a variety of innovative ways. In Las Vegas, Cox worked
with the City to launch a private network on CBRS that powers smart
cities and Internet of Things (IoT) devices. As you know, CBRS is
shared with the military, and has been an important model in how the
FCC and the military can work together to enhance commercial spectrum
use while protecting defense equities.
Question 1. Will you commit to continuing to work with DoD and the
NTIA to ensure any changes to CBRS's rules are not made unilaterally
and do not harm our national defense?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with NTIA, DOD, and any
other impacted Federal agency in spectrum proceedings that come before
the FCC.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to
Olivia Trusty
Question 1. I have been on the record in support of FCC policies
that help many points of view reach the public. This does not just mean
viewpoints I agree with. Whereas Chair Carr has put pressure on
broadcasters that take positions President Trump dislikes, I have been
supportive of rules that would help independent video programmers gain
an opportunity to compete by bringing their content to the public no
matter their viewpoint. I am similarly concerned that the broadcast
industry is now asking the FCC to eliminate ownership limits
altogether. Do you think there is any limit to how many households a
single company can reach? As you know, although Congress set a national
ownership cap at 39 percent of U.S. households, the way the FCC
measures the cap means some companies already reach 70 percent of the
U.S. audience. Is 70 percent of the country too large? How few
independently owned TV stations in a single community or local market
are too few?
Answer. There is currently an active proceeding before the FCC on
media ownership limits. To remain impartial, I believe it would be
imprudent for me to comment on issues related to the active proceeding
in my capacity as a nominee. As a general matter, for any media related
proceeding before the FCC, I commit to following the facts in the
record, FCC precedent, and the law, if confirmed.
Question 2. As you know, Congress unfortunately failed to extend
the American Connectivity Program (ACP), which expanded affordable
broadband access to over 23 million households. That makes the FCC's
Lifeline program, a part of the universal service fund (USF), even more
important today for helping eligible, low-income Americans access
wireless and Internet service. Could you share more about ways you
believe Lifeline could be improved? Please be specific.
Answer. I support the Committee's continued efforts to expand
access to affordable broadband. To improve Lifeline, I believe the FCC
should work with Congress to do the following: develop performance
metrics to better track the program's effectiveness in expanding access
to affordable communications services; conduct enhanced oversight over
the eligibility of Lifeline recipients to ensure the resources are
going to those in need; and closely align the Lifeline program with
digital literacy efforts.
Question 3. Yes or no, do you think that the Universal Service Fund
should have a stable, dedicated funding source--rather than rely on
annual appropriations?
Answer. I believe that carrying out the FCC's universal service
mission requires the funding source to be ``specific, predictable, and
sufficient'' in accordance with Section 254 of the Communications Act.
Question 4. How do you think the FCC should modernize the Universal
Service Fund to ensure its long-term sustainability?
Answer. I believe the FCC should modernize the USF to ensure its
long-term sustainability by increasing transparency and accountability
into how USF monies are spent across the four programs it supports.
This will ensure that the funds are spent judiciously and go further in
expanding access to communications services across the country. I also
believe USF should be better coordinated with other Federal broadband
programs, like BEAD, to avoid fragmentation, duplication, overbuilding,
and the waste of taxpayer dollars.
Question 5. Would you support creating future Tribal Priority
Windows or other public interest set-asides to ensure Tribal Nations
and unserved communities can access spectrum and grow their communities
directly, rather than waiting on commercial deployment?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to putting spectrum to its highest
and best use and maximizing the economic and societal benefits of
spectrum use to ensure the best return for all people across the
country, including those living on Tribal lands. In Auction 108 (2.5
GHz), the FCC established a Tribal priority window in recognition of
the unique connectivity needs and challenges facing Tribal lands. This
particular auction can help inform how future opportunities for direct
access to spectrum in Tribal communities can expand competition and
access to modern communications services in unserved or underserved
areas.
Question 6. When we met in my office you said that both President
Biden and President Trump were the ``certified'' winners in 2020 and
2024 respectively. You would not say whether of them were ``lawfully''
elected. Yes or no, were 100 members of the currently sitting U.S.
Senate lawfully elected?
Answer. All 100 members of the sitting U.S. Senate were certified
as the winners of each of their respective elections.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to
Olivia Trusty
Media Oversight
Chairman Carr has initiated investigations into Disney, ABC,
Comcast, CBS, and others regarding what he sees as discriminatory
practices or unfair news coverage. These investigations come at a time
when Congress has worked on a bipartisan basis to attract journalists
to newsrooms in Colorado and across the country.
Question 1. Do you think Chairman Carr's investigations of
broadcasters could negatively affect attracting future journalists to
newsrooms? Why or why not?
Answer. As a nominee to be a Commissioner at the FCC, I believe it
would be imprudent for me to comment on the impact of any pending
proceeding before the Commission. That said, I believe local news is
vital to communities across the country. Local broadcasters provide
news and information about social and cultural events, educational
programming, and critical information during emergencies and disasters.
If confirmed, I commit to promoting policies that empower local
broadcasters to expand access to local news to all Americans.
Spectrum Relocation Fund
The Spectrum Relocation Fund (SRF) provides a funding mechanism
through which Federal agencies can recover the costs associated with
relocating their radio communications systems or sharing the
reallocated spectrum.
Question 2. What changes do you think need to be made to the SRF to
enable agencies to continue performing their Federal missions without
harmful interference from potential commercial uses of reallocated
spectrum? In your view, could a reformed SRF allow for increases in
non-federal uses of spectrum? Will you commit to carefully considering
the perspectives raised by Federal agencies and work to ensure spectrum
decisions made by the FCC fully account for necessary steps to mitigate
potential interference?
Answer. I believe the Spectrum Relocation Fund (SRF) is an
important tool in the spectrum management process. I am aware of
concerns from Federal agencies regarding delays in accessing SRF
resources and constraints on how the SRF monies can be used. I believe
the SRF should be modernized to be a more effective tool in the
spectrum management process. If confirmed, I commit to carefully
considering the perspectives raised by Federal agencies and working to
ensure spectrum decisions account for necessary steps to mitigate
potential interference.
Question 3. How can the FCC coordinate with industry and other
Federal agencies to develop and incentivize the adoption of
technologies that minimize harmful interference and increase flexible
access to spectrum?
Answer. I believe that the FCC should coordinate with NTIA and
consult with impacted Federal agencies, through established mechanisms
such as the Interdepartment Radio Advisory Committee and the Commerce
Spectrum Management Advisory Committee to ensure that spectrum
management decisions, including auctions, are informed by economic and
national security analysis and incentivize the adoption of technologies
that minimize harmful interference and increase flexible access to
spectrum.
Data Privacy and Cybersecurity
Breaches such as Salt Typhoon demonstrate the need for increased
preventive and corrective cybersecurity measures. In the past, the FCC
has pursued consent decrees with companies to resolve investigations
over data breaches. Data breaches can cause harmful exposure of
consumers' data and cyber attacks can damage key communications
services.
Question 4. In what specific ways could the FCC further incentivize
measures to increase resiliency across the communications sector from
data breaches and cybersecurity attacks? To date, do you believe the
FCC's pursuit of consent decrees has been sufficient? Should the FCC
consider new rulemakings to encourage enhanced protections from
cyberattacks and data breaches?
Answer. If confirmed, I will promote the adoption of Open RAN
technologies, which can help strengthen and diversify the Nation's
telecommunications supply chain and increase resiliency across the
communications sector from data breaches and cybersecurity attacks.
I believe the FCC should increase transparency into enforcement
actions, to the extent possible, to ensure that consent decrees improve
compliance, deterrence, and lead to a faster resolution of rule
violations.
To enhance network protections from cyberattacks and data breaches,
I believe the FCC needs to work with Federal partners to ensure
telecommunications providers have the tools and resources they need to
defend their networks against malicious cyber threat actors. This
includes working with telecommunications providers to improve their
cyber hygiene to counter increasingly sophisticated and hostile cyber
threat actors. I also believe the FCC should participate in ongoing
whole-of-government conversations about how to improve the efficacy of
the United States' deterrence efforts against nation state actors,
which can further protect our Nation's networks from cyberattacks and
data breaches.
Direct to Cell
Reliable communications can be a lifeline in a public safety
emergency or while exploring the great outdoors across the mountains of
Colorado. Last month, the FCC approved rules for expanding cellular
coverage for cellphones outside of cell tower range using satellite
communications. In a remote environment, direct to cell service could
help enhance public safety and save lives.
Question 5. If confirmed, what will your priorities be to enhance
the reliability and accessibility of public safety communications
services? What future improvements do you see in the field of direct to
cell services?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with Congress and
interested stakeholders to improve back-up power solutions and promote
the hardening of communications infrastructure to enhance the
reliability and accessibility of public safety communications services.
I would also advocate for more accurate, timely, and accessible
information in the FCC's Disaster Information Reporting System.
Some future improvements in direct-to-cell services could include
broader device capability with these services, more support for 911 or
location tracking capabilities during emergencies or disasters, and
wider geographic coverage.
Telecom Supply Chain
In order for us to succeed in our efforts to connect every American
to high-speed and affordable broadband, we need reliable, secure, and
readily-available supply of infrastructure network equipment.
Question 6. What role should the FCC play in continuously
monitoring and strengthening supply chains to support our existing and
future communications networks? Do you believe the FCC should receive
more voluntary notifications, on a timely basis, from the private
sector about potential shortages of network equipment that could impede
the timely completion of broadband infrastructure projects funded by
the FCC?
Answer. I believe that transparency into the health and resilience
of the Nation's telecommunications supply chain is vital to the FCC's
continued ability to close the digital divide and strengthen network
security. Voluntary notifications from the private sector about
potential equipment shortages could help the FCC quickly address such
shortages and ensure the timely completion of broadband projects.
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Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to
Olivia Trusty
Question 1. Should consumer protection be a top FCC priority?
Answer. If confirmed, protecting consumers is among my top
priorities. I believe that protecting consumers is critical to the
FCC's mission in making communications services available to all
Americans.
Question 2. Ms. Trusty, do you think Federal workers at the FCC are
crucial for advancing consumer transparency?
Answer. FCC staff are critical to carrying out the mission of the
agency in expanding access to communications services, advancing
consumer transparency, and upholding and enforcing the law.
Question 3. Last year, the FCC introduced ``broadband nutrition
labels'' to show what ISPs charge. However, potential Federal staffing
or funding cuts could jeopardize this and similar initiatives.
Ms. Trusty, for consumer transparency purposes, will you commit to
defending the broadband nutrition label program if it, and programs
like it, face cuts?
Answer. In accordance with the bipartisan Infrastructure,
Investment, and Jobs Act, the FCC has a responsibility to establish
rules requiring the display of broadband consumer labels (also referred
to as the ``broadband nutrition label program''). If confirmed, I
commit to uphold and enforce these rules--or any successor rules--in
accordance with the law.
Question 4. What concrete measures would you implement to improve
telehealth access and quality for underserved Americans?
Answer. If confirmed, I commit to coordinating with Federal
partners to better target broadband funds to underserved areas to
provide improved support for telehealth-enabling infrastructure. I also
commit to promoting the use of the FCC's special temporary authority to
experiment with expanding access to telehealth initiatives.
Question 5. Ms. Trusty, what additional policy reforms or actions
should the FCC pursue to ensure broadband deployment is strategically
targeted to underserved communities?
Answer. If confirmed, I would work to increase broadband
connectivity in rural areas by doing the following: coordinating with
other Federal agencies with broadband programs to eliminate program
fragmentation and duplication across the Federal government and ensure
Federal resources are better targeted to unserved areas; remove
regulatory barriers that impede or increase the cost of deploying
broadband to rural areas; embrace new technologies such as satellite
broadband or fixed wireless services that can provide a more cost
effective solution in expanding connectivity to rural, unserved areas;
and consider adjustments to USF programs to better target resources to
unserved communities.
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