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                DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR 
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                            STRATEGIC FORCES

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DEB FISCHER, Nebraska			JACK REED, Rhode Island
TOM COTTON, Arkansas			JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire
MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota		KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York
JONI ERNST, Iowa			RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska			MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii
KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota		TIM KAINE, Virginia
RICK SCOTT, Florida			ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine
TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama		ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma	        GARY C. PETERS, Michigan
TED BUDD, North Carolina		TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri			JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JIM BANKS, INDIANA			MARK KELLY, Arizona
TIM SHEEHY, MONTANA                  	ELISSA SLOTKIN, MICHIGAN
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                    Subcommittee on Strategic Forces

  DEB FISCHER, Nebraska, Chairman
TOM COTTON, Arkansas		ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine
MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota	KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York
KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota	ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama	JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JIM BANKS, Indiana         	MARK KELLY, Arizona        

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                       C O N T E N T S

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                             march 26, 2025

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United States Strategic Command and United States Space Command..     1

                           Members Statements

Fischer, Statement of Senator Deb................................     1

King, Statement of Senator Angus S., Jr..........................     3

Wicker, Statement of Senator Roger...............................     4

Reed, Statement of Senator Jack..................................     5

                           Witness Statements

Cotton, General Anthony J., USAF, Commander, United States            5
  Strategic Command, Department of The Air Force.

Whiting, General Stephen N., USSF, Commander of United States        34
  Space Command, Department of The Air Force.

Questions for the Record.........................................    69

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Department of Defense Missile Defense Activities.................    77

                           Members Statements

Fischer, Statement of Senator Deb................................    77

King, Statement of Senator Angus S., Jr..........................    78

                           Witness Statements

Yaffe, Andrea, Acting Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of        79
  Defense for Space Policy, Department of Defense.

Guillot, General Gregory M., USAF, Commander, United States          84
  Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command.

Collins, Lieutenant General Heath A., USAF, Director, Missile        93
  Defense Agency.

Rasch, Lieutenant General Robert A., USA, Executive Officer, Guam   101
  Defense System Joint Program Office.

Questions for the Record.........................................   113

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Department of Energy's Atomic Energy Defense Activities and         131
  Department of Defense Nuclear Weapons Programs.

                           Members Statements

Fischer, Statement of Senator Deb................................   131

King, Statement of Senator Angus S., Jr..........................   132

                           Witness Statements

McConnell, James J., Acting Principal Deputy Administrator.......   133

Jarrell, Roger A., II, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary for     134
  Environmental Management.

Houston, Admiral William J., USN, Director, Naval Nuclear           135
  Propulsion Program.

Vann, Dr. Brandi C., Performing the Duties of the Assistant         145
  Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological 
  Defense Programs.

Hoagland, David A., Acting Deputy Administrator for Defense         146
  Programs.

Bussiere, General Thomas A., USAF Commander......................   158

Wolfe, Johnny R., Jr., USN Director for Strategic Systems           169
  Programs.

Questions for the Record.........................................   185

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DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 
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                       WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26, 2025

                      United States Senate,
                  Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND AND UNITED STATES SPACE COMMAND

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room SD-106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Deb 
Fischer (Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Fischer, Cotton, Wicker, Rounds, 
Tuberville, Banks, King, Reed, and Kelly.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. The hearing will come to order. Good 
morning, everyone.
    The Strategic Forces Subcommittee meets today to receive 
testimony on the posture of the United States Strategic Command 
and the United States Space Command. I want to begin by 
thanking our witnesses, General Cotton from COM, and General 
Whiting from SPACECOM.
    General Cotton, this is likely one of the last times you 
will be speaking before our Committee. You have always been 
open and forthright with this Committee, and I want to thank 
you for your service and dedication as you approach your final 
year as Commander of STRATCOM.
    Today we face a threat environment more dangerous than we 
have seen since the Second World War. For the first time in 
history, the United States faces two adversary nuclear powers, 
in Russia and China. Russia has nearly completed modernizing 
its nuclear triad, and continues to expand and improve their 
tactical nuclear forces. China, meanwhile, which used to be 
considered a lesser-included case, is expanding its own arsenal 
at a breathtaking pace. China now has more ICBM launchers than 
the United States, and is expected at least to triple its 
stockpile by 2035. I would also note that China has outpaced 
every previous estimate that we have made.
    General Cotton, as you well know, this is an extremely 
important time for STRATCOM. Each leg of our triad is 
undergoing a generational modernization. This includes the 
Columbia-class submarine to replace the Ohio-class; the B-21 
bomber to replace the B-1 and B-2 bombers; and the Sentinel 
ICBM, to replace the Minuteman III.
    Given the ages of the legacy programs, it is essential that 
these modernization efforts be prioritized and properly 
resourced to ensure we have capabilities fielded in time to 
meet the growing threat. While it is the responsibility of the 
services to get these programs back on schedule, it is STRATCOM 
who must mitigate risks associated with any delays. I look 
forward to hearing more in the closed session about your plans 
to do so.
    Additionally, the nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise 
missile, or SLCM, remains a critical program to deter our 
adversaries from believing they can use tactical nuclear 
weapons. I look forward to hearing from you, General Cotton, on 
your work with the Navy on SLCM.
    I would be remiss if I did not also underscore the 
importance of NC3, what Senator King and I refer to as the 
fourth leg of the triad. NC3 underpins all aspects of nuclear 
deterrence. General Cotton, I appreciate the focus that you 
have given NC3 modernization during your time in command, and I 
will be eager to receive an update on the implementation of the 
NC3 roadmap.
    General Whiting, the space domain is now, as you point out 
in your opening statement, a highly contested strategic 
environment. China and Russia possess growing counter-space 
capabilities that hold United States space assets at risk. 
Russia is developing the capability to place a nuclear weapon 
on orbit, while China is investing in maneuverable satellites 
that could target our satellites. These are just the threats 
that we can discuss in this open setting.
    While I look forward to a more robust discussion on how we 
need to address these threats in a classified session, I am 
eager to hear from you during this open session on your 
priorities for fiscal year 2026, and how we can leverage 
emerging technologies to field more dynamic space-based 
systems. I am also eager to hear an update on how SPACECOM is 
working with the other combatant commands, the services, and 
the intelligence community to ensure that we are developing the 
right capabilities, sharing information with warfighters in 
real time, and that the services and interagency partners are 
integrated appropriately.
    I will make one final point before I turn it over to 
Senator King for his opening statement. Both of your combatant 
commands rely on access to critical electromagnetic spectrum to 
carry out your missions. As we know, there are efforts underway 
to force DOD to vacate portions of those spectrum bands. Such 
an outcome would be detrimental to U.S. national security and 
result in significant costs, as various DOD equities are forced 
to invest the resources to redesign, procure, and field new 
systems to operate in different spectrum bands, if that is even 
feasible.
    General Whiting and General Cotton, I look forward to 
hearing from both of you on the importance of spectrum to your 
missions. Before any decisions are made on whether to auction 
off DOD spectrum, the American people deserve to understand the 
risks there would be to national security.
    Again, thank you both for appearing before us today. I look 
forward to hearing your testimony.
    Senator King, you are recognized.

            STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS S. KING, JR.

    Senator King. Thank you, Senator Fischer. I want to first 
thank both of you for your service and for the incredible work 
that you have done, both in managing the assets that are in 
your purview but also in thinking about how to move forward.
    This is a posture hearing. It is really a status report. It 
is a combination of a status report, where are we now but where 
do we need to be, and what do we need in the way of resources 
in order to get there.
    General Cotton, deterrence is the keystone of our entire 
defense strategy. We often forget that. We get lost in counting 
tanks or airplanes or Navy ships. But the whole idea of all of 
these resources is that they never be used, that they be such a 
terrifying prospect for a potential adversary that they will 
never be used. And in fact, deterrence had worked in the 
nuclear area for 75, 80 years. So that is really what we need 
to talk about today.
    Modernization the triad, which we are in the middle of 
right now, is an expensive proposition. But to shortchange that 
process, in my view, would be disastrously short-sighted. So I 
hope to hear where we are on modernization with parts of the 
triad, but also where we need to be, what necessary authorities 
there are that we need to be talking about, and also necessary 
funding. I refer to nuclear modernization as the pig in the 
budgetary python. It is, unfortunately, just by history, we are 
having to do all three legs at once, and that is a very 
expensive proposition, but it is something that we have to do 
in order to maintain the deterrence strategy that has protected 
this country for so long.
    In terms of the space assets, of course, it is no news to 
anybody that space was an uncontested domain 20 years ago. Ten 
years ago, it began to be contested, and today it is highly 
contested. So, General, we have really got to be understanding 
the status, where we are, particularly when we are talking 
about a potential conflict with China, which would involve the 
vast expanse of the Pacific Ocean and naval power, and how that 
will be subject to space assets and how we can protect 
ourselves in a time of potential conflict. Of course, we all 
hope that conflict can be avoided. That brings me back to 
deterrence.
    So I think the important message that I have is that 
decisions we make here today, and over the next 6 months, will 
have profound impacts in the future. And that is what is so 
important about what we are talking about today. I can think of 
no two more important people right now in thinking about how to 
posture this country in order to maintain deterrence and the 
security of the American people.
    So I thank you for being here, I look forward to your 
questions, and now I think it is time to turn it over to the 
Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. We are joined 
today by Chairman Wicker and Ranking Member Reed, and I would 
ask each of them to give an opening statement if they so desire 
at this time. Chairman Wicker.

               STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER WICKER

    Chairman Wicker. Thank you, Madam Chair, and I want to 
thank the Chair and Senator King for working together as a team 
for years on this topic. I think it should be clear to people 
listening that there is no space between them. They are 
approaching this in a bipartisan manner. They understand how 
important it is. And yes, Senator King is correct. We are 
talking about preventing. We are talking about being strong 
enough to prevent a nuclear war, and nothing could be more 
important. And yes, it is going to be expensive, but there is 
no question about it, we are going to have to spend the money 
as wisely and efficiently as we can to get the job done.
    I want to thank Senator [sic] Cotton for his service and 
wish him well as he prepares to transition into private life, 
and thank you, General Whiting, for being here.
    I am going to put my statement in the record and just say 
that today I hope to understand how you are managing the risks 
of critical military capabilities that are both too old and too 
few to truly meet the threats of today, much less those of 
tomorrow.
    Second, how to understand better the roles of your commands 
evolving as the new Administration develops updated strategies 
and guidance, and then hear your thoughts on areas where you 
believe this Committee can help improve the effectiveness of 
our strategic deterrent and space posture.
    With that I will ask unanimous consent to include my 
statement in the record, and yield back.
    Senator Fischer. Without objection.
    [The prepared opening statement of Senator Roger Wicker 
follows:]

           Prepared Opening Statement by Senator Roger Wicker
    Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    I would like to start by expressing my appreciation to Senator 
Fischer and Senator King for their leadership of the Strategic Forces 
Subcommittee over these past several years. Their close collaboration 
is a testament to what we can accomplish when we work together in a 
bipartisan manner on the most severe threats to our Nation.
    As the commanders of U.S. Strategic Command and U.S. Space Command, 
you gentlemen represent both our first and last lines of defense. Our 
nuclear forces have formed the foundation of our national security 
since the end of the Second World War and have deterred major wars for 
over seventy years. Our space-based capabilities are our eyes and ears 
around the globe and form the communications backbone for U.S. military 
operations, including missile defense, worldwide.
    We are all very aware of the growing military cooperation between 
China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. This collaboration presents a 
complex and far-reaching set of threats that demands a generational 
investment to rebuild and revitalize America's military strength.
    Unfortunately, the rise of these new challengers could not come at 
a worse time. The defense investments we made during the cold war have 
long since expired. Defense spending is near record lows as a 
percentage of our economy, and all aspects of our military forces are 
now in dire need of repair or replacement. This neglect is no more 
evident in the very military capabilities you General Cotton, and you 
General Whiting, are expected to bring to bear every hour of every day.
    In your testimony today, I would like to understand how you are 
managing the risk of critical military capabilities that are both too 
old and too few to truly meet the threats of today, much less those of 
tomorrow. I would also like to better understand how you see the roles 
of your commands evolving as the new administration develops updated 
strategies and guidance for the joint force. Finally, I would like to 
hear your thoughts on areas where you believe this committee can help 
improve the effectiveness of our strategic deterrent and space posture.

    Chairman Wicker. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Madam 
Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Ranking Member 
Reed.

                 STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Senator Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Chairman. Welcome, 
gentlemen. We look forward to your testimony. I want to commend 
General Cotton for his 39 years of service to the country and 
to the Air Force, and I wish you and your wife, Marsha, the 
very best in your retirement. General Whiting, thank you for 
joining us this morning also.
    General Cotton, there are reports that indicate that the 
Administration is considering removing the dual-hatted role the 
Commander of U.S. European Command currently holds as the NATO 
Supreme Allied Commander Europe, or SACEUR. The SACEUR position 
was created, in part, to ensure that our nuclear weapons, and 
hence our nuclear umbrella provided to our NATO allies under 
Article 5, was always kept under the control of the United 
States. Indeed, the release codes for our nuclear weapons which 
are carried by NATO planes come from the President through 
SACEUR to unlock the weapons. If the U.S. walks away from this 
position, we are lessening the protection of our extended 
nuclear deterrent to our allies, and I believe we are harming 
U.S. national security and global security.
    For over 6 decades, the United States nuclear umbrella has 
provided an iron-clad guarantee to deter the Soviet Union and 
now Russia, and it has been successful.
    I am also concerned about the signal it may send to our 
Asian allies, especially South Korea, who also relies on the 
credibility of our nuclear umbrella.
    These are difficult issues, and I hope in the course of the 
questioning we can get more details from you about that.
    Again, thank you, Madam Chairman.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Reed, and now I would 
like to have our opening statements from the panel. General 
Cotton, would you go first, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL ANTHONY J. COTTON, USAF, COMMANDER, UNITED 
     STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND, DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE

    General Cotton. Good morning, Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking 
Member King, Chairman Wicker, and Ranking Member Reed, and 
distinguished Members of this Committee. It is an honor for 
Sergeant Major Kramer and I to be here, alongside General 
Whiting and Chief Master Sergeant Simmons, and a privilege to 
continue representing the servicemembers, civilians, and 
families of United States Strategic Command.
    I would like to thank this Committee and Congress for its 
continued support in providing us with the resources required 
to execute our assigned missions. Above all else, I extend my 
gratitude to the American people for their enduring support of 
the military.
    In my third and final year of serving as STRATCOM Commander 
it has been the most rewarding experience of my 39-year career. 
I have submitted my 2025 posture statement for the record.
    I will begin by assuring you that the Nation's nuclear 
forces, which are foundational to our national security, are 
safe, secure, effective, and credible. As I speak, STRATCOM and 
its components are deterring our adversaries and stand ready to 
respond decisively, whether underground, in the air, or beneath 
the seas, should deterrence fail.
    Our mission has never been more important. Today the United 
States, its allies and partners are confronted with a 
deteriorating security environment. The Chinese Communist Party 
is rapidly expanding its nuclear forces into a fully functional 
triad, with more than 600 nuclear warheads, and counting. 
Russia has modernized the majority of its nuclear arsenal. 
North Korea continues with its unlawful and destabilizing 
programs in pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and 
ballistic missiles, and Iran continues to pursue uranium 
enrichment.
    Additionally, the tools of war are changing, from novel 
missile systems to counter-U.S. space capabilities, from 
cyberattacks against critical infrastructure to competition in 
the electromagnetic spectrum. These are rapidly developing 
threat vectors across multiple domains and regions, to include 
the Arctic.
    To effectively deter our adversaries across the spectrum of 
threats requires sustained legacy triad systems and urgently 
completing the multigenerational, decades-long modernization of 
all three legs of the nuclear deterrent and its critical NC3 
systems.
    No portfolio is in need of recapitalization more than a 
nuclear portfolio, and the modernization I am advocating for 
requires continued, uninterrupted funding and an industrial 
base capable of steady and continuous production. Commitment to 
modernization will ensure that U.S. strategic weapons continue 
to deter aggression, assure our allies and partners, and allow 
us to achieve national objectives if deterrence fails.
    Thank you again for your support and focus on our mission, 
and I look forward to answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Anthony J. Cotton 
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    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General Cotton. General 
Whiting.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL STEPHEN N. WHITING, USSF, COMMANDER OF 
    UNITED STATES SPACE COMMAND, DEPARTMENT OF THE AIR FORCE

    General Whiting. Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, 
Chairman Wicker, and Ranking Member Reed, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for your support and the opportunity to 
represent the warfighters of U.S. Space Command. It is truly an 
honor to testify alongside my friend, General Cotton, once 
again, and to discuss our vital role in achieving peace through 
strength.
    At U.S. Space Command our guiding principle is clear. To 
secure peace, we must be well-prepared for conflict in space, 
and if deterrence fails, we will fight and win. U.S. Space 
Command is upholding this principle in the face of operational 
threats, which continue to expand at a breathtaking pace, and 
which are being fielded deliberately to challenge the United 
States, the American way of life, and hold the Joint Force at 
risk. These novel and unprecedented developments include 
China's robust counter-space weapons and space-enabled kill 
chains, Russia's reported pursuit of an on-orbit nuclear anti-
satellite weapon, and wide-ranging ballistic cruise and 
hypersonic missile threats.
    Despite the growing threats, the United States maintains 
advantages in space thanks to the unified mission focus of our 
superb joint warfighters, our unmatched commercial space 
sector, and our expansive and more empowered alliances and 
partnership. Our foremost advantage, and the cornerstone of 
U.S. Space Command, are our officer, enlisted, and civilian 
personnel. No other nation can match our team's understanding 
of the complexities of space and the requirements to 
effectively operate in the most challenging area of 
responsibility. Our military has the best-trained, most capable 
space warfighting force in the world, and they stand dedicated 
to fight for America.
    Since my last testimony, U.S. Space Command published our 
new campaign plan, integrating and synchronizing the Command's 
operations, activities, and investments with the Joint Force 
and the interagency, leaving no doubts to our opponents that we 
are stronger, more capable, and ready to counter any threat.
    Over the past year, U.S. Space Command's commercial 
integration cell grew to 17 commercial mission partners, 
enhancing our threat information sharing at classified levels 
and improving our crisis action planning.
    We also expanded Multinational Force Operation OLYMPIC 
DEFENDER to seven nations, with the addition of Germany, 
France, and New Zealand. This growth further strengthens 
partnerships and enables our allies to share the burden of 
collective space security.
    That said, these advantages, and our ability to deter 
potential adversaries, cannot be taken for granted. Deterrence 
in space is consistent with other domains. It requires a keen 
understanding and clear communication of what we are deterring 
against; credible, acknowledged capabilities to impose costs on 
those who attack us; and resilient architectures to dissuade 
attack by making any effort futile.
    Accordingly, U.S. Space Command is fully integrated into, 
and contributing to, the Department of Defense's implementation 
of the President's executive order to establish a Golden Dome 
for American missile defense shield.
    U.S. Space Command appreciates Congress' significant 
support of numerous critical space superiority programs and in 
the recent fiscal year 2025 appropriations law. Looking forward 
to fiscal year 2026 and beyond, U.S. Space Command requires 
stable funding as well as effective and efficient acquisition 
programs, delivering advanced space capabilities to enable a 
balanced space deterrence force structure.
    Most pressing are the delivery of integrated space fires, 
enhanced battle space awareness, and integrated command and 
control capabilities to achieve space superiority to defend the 
Homeland and protect and enable the Joint Force. The Unified 
Command Plan directs U.S. Space Command to protect and defend 
U.S., and as directed, allied and commercial space capabilities 
through necessary offensive and defensive space operations. 
Like other combatant commands, we require combat-credible 
kinetic and non-kinetic means to deter and counter adversary 
actions.
    By investing in space superiority capabilities we send a 
clear message: the United States has the advantage, and we 
remain committed that space will be safe, secure, and stable. 
We are ready to repel all challengers, and any attempt to turn 
space into a battle field will fail.
    Although many challenges lie ahead, the future of space 
holds tremendous promise for America, if we actively and 
thoughtfully protect it. I am grateful for Congress' support to 
U.S. Space Command and continued investment to advance 
America's strength in space. Your continued backing not only 
ensures that U.S. Space Command protects our interests in space 
today but also protects that future which is coming.
    Madam Chairwoman, I have submitted my posture statement for 
the record, and I look forward and the Subcommittee's 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Whiting follows:]
      
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    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General Whiting. We will begin 
with 5-minute rounds of questions.
    I strongly believe that the Bipartisan Strategic Posture 
Commission's 2023 report should be required reading for 
everybody in the Department of Defense. It clearly articulates 
the threats that we face, and it concludes, rightfully 
concludes, that we are woefully underprepared.
    Based on the recommendations of that report, last year's 
NDAA directed the Department to develop a deterrence strategy 
that would pace this projected threat. This strategy must also 
include an assessment of the amount and type of nuclear weapons 
and delivery systems necessary to implement that strategy.
    General Cotton, can you tell me how the development of this 
strategy is coming along?
    General Cotton. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman. If you recall, 
when I first took over as the Commander of U.S. Strategic 
Command, one of the first thing we did was we instituted a 
nuclear recapitalization and transition cross-functional team 
to do exactly that, because one of the things we wanted to 
assure ourselves was did we have the capacity and capability 
and posture correct. That was in alignment with the study and 
the Commission's report, and it pretty much mirrored everything 
that was said in the Commission.
    Since that time, what we have done is looked at the options 
that are available on all three legs of the triad. We are 
currently sufficient--currently--but in order to maintain 
sufficiency as we continue to have legacy systems online before 
the new systems come on board, there are some options within 
all three legs of the triad to increase capacity and 
capability.
    Senator Fischer. General Cotton, you recently said that the 
Air Force should procure at least 145 B-21 bombers. From your 
position, as STRATCOM Commander, can you share with us why you 
assess that that should be the new procurement floor?
    General Cotton. Yes, Senator. When we first looked at the 
numbers of what would be required for the next generation of 
bombers to replace the B-1 and the B-2, that was a different 
geopolitical environment. We actually started a study in 2020, 
to ensure that our numbers were correct in regard to what we 
wanted to see the B-21 fleet look like.
    At that point, the conversation from the Department would 
be a minimum of 100 B-21s should be procured, as we looked to 
see what the environment brought to bear. The other number that 
we would always talk about would be the 145 number, which would 
bring the total of the bomber force for the United States and 
allies--because the bomber force represents all the bombers for 
the Western world--would be about 220, and that would include 
the B-21s as well as the modified B-52J models that would come 
out.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General, as you know, this 
Committee, on a bipartisan basis, strongly supports SLCM, the 
nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missile, and a program of 
record was included in our fiscal year 2024 NDAA. In your view 
as STRATCOM Commander, will SLCM-N address a capability gap?
    General Cotton. It will, ma'am, and what it does for us is 
twofold. It gives the President a broader range of options, and 
I think that is my role and my job as a combatant commander is 
to present a broad range of capability and options for the 
President. It also provides--it is a regional tool that can be 
used, as well. So we can actually benefit from our geographic 
combatant commanders, which they support the idea of SLCM-N, as 
well, because from a regional perspective, it can hold 
adversaries at risk.
    Senator Fischer. Yes or no. Do you see opportunities to 
speed up that program?
    General Cotton. I would hope so, Madam Chairwoman, and the 
reason is I know that there is a program of record that has 
been established in the Department of the Navy. I would love to 
see some acceleration from that team to see what we can do to 
get the assets a little quicker and move it to the left.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Whiting, I want to get 
one question in for you at this point, as well. Every service 
relies on your assets that are based in space. I do not think 
that gets enough attention. Are you coordinating with the other 
combatant commands and also with the services, with the 
intelligence community, to make sure that these assets under 
your command are going to be integrated appropriately?
    General Whiting. Madam Chairwoman, absolutely. In fact, I 
have a liaison element that I have assigned to each of the 
other combatant commands. So there is a liaison element from 
U.S. Space Command that sits inside of U.S. STRATCOM as well as 
all the other combatant commands to persistently do that type 
of coordination, to make sure that our operational plans are 
advancing together, that our real-time operations are 
considering each other's capabilities.
    We do that with our intelligence community, as well, 
primarily through the National Reconnaissance Office. Again, we 
have an exchange of liaison officers and operational centers 
that work together. Then with the services, at the Joint 
Headquarters I have not only components from each of the 
services assigned to me but I have personnel from all of those 
services, which keep us tightly linked with their future plans, 
as well.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you, Madam Chair. A couple of 
preliminary questions about staff. Both of you mentioned in 
your testimony that you rely upon not only military personnel 
but civilians. My question to each of you is, are you under any 
orders or have orders come down, or have you already started to 
implement, or has somebody started to implement reductions in 
force--firings, people who have taken, I call it the early 
retirement option? General Cotton what is the status of your 
civilian workforce?
    General Cotton. Well, our civilian workforce, we are about 
65 percent civilian in the headquarters, but that does not 
count for the 41,000 that make up the componencies that work 
under my charge.
    Right now, Senator, very small amount of folks that took 
the early retirement activities, but the option for them to do 
so still exists. But right now we are not seeing an effect. The 
numbers are pretty small.
    Senator King. No firings?
    General Cotton. We have not fired anyone.
    Senator King. Are you under any orders to reduce that staff 
by any certain percentage?
    General Cotton. We are looking for the efficiencies piece, 
but right now it is all voluntary. Like I said, from our 
perspective, from STRATCOM, the numbers have been very, very 
small.
    Senator King. Are you subject to a hiring freeze?
    General Cotton. I am.
    Senator King. So those people who are leaving, you are not 
allowed to replace. Is that correct?
    General Cotton. Well, we have an opportunity to get a 
waiver approved because of our mission set, and if there is a 
requirement for us to do a waiver to see if we can get someone 
through the hiring freeze, we can process that.
    Senator King. General Whiting, same set of questions.
    General Whiting. Senator, my answers are almost identical 
to General Cotton's. About 60 percent of my headquarters staff 
is Government civilians. We have had a small number who have 
volunteered for the deferred retirement program. We are under 
no orders to fire anyone. We are aware that we need to look for 
efficiencies, as General Cotton discussed. We also are under a 
hiring freeze, and we have the opportunity for critical 
positions to ask for exemptions to that.
    Senator King. Thank you. General Whiting, I was interested. 
You mentioned, I think it is called the Artemist Accords, which 
is clearly based upon allies. I am concerned that we seem to be 
in a process of alienating our allies. Talk to me about the 
importance of the Artemist Accords in order to carry out your 
mission.
    General Whiting. Senator, the Artemis Accords are overseen 
by NASA and the Department of State, and that is a civil 
exploratory set of agreements about shared principles in space 
between countries. On the military side, I have a named 
operation called Operation OLYMPIC DEFENDER, which includes 
seven countries, which is the United States plus the Five Eyes 
Nations, Germany, and France, where we cooperate in space 
together to understand what is happening there.
    Senator King. Those relationships with other countries are 
important to the execution of your mission. Is that correct?
    General Whiting. They are, Senator.
    Senator King. A question that I have not been able to get a 
clear answer on is what is the concept of the Golden Dome? In 
other words, would it be 1,000 THAAD batteries, or is it 
conventional missile defense? Is it directed energy? What is 
the underlying concept of Golden Dome other than to protect the 
Homeland, which is certainly a worthy goal?
    General Whiting. Senator, the Department right now has been 
going through a series of meetings and working groups to define 
what that architecture will look like. But in the executive 
order it lays out that the President is asking the Department 
to develop a series of capabilities that will protect against 
these new, modernized threats like hypersonics, maneuvering 
vehicles, that put the Homeland at risk.
    So I think it will be a layered system that will have to 
account for all of those threats, at multiple phases of the 
lifecycle of the missile.
    Senator King. Well, that is the mission. I understand. But 
I take it we are some distance away from the operational 
concept of what it will consist of.
    A very specific question. Both of you rely heavily on 
Kwajalein Atoll for training and testing purposes. My 
understanding is the infrastructure there is woefully 
inadequate. Can you speak to an effort to try to upgrade that 
infrastructure so that atoll can continue to be an important 
part of our Strategic Deterrence Initiative?
    General Whiting. Senator, Kwajalein Atoll is very important 
for our space mission. I visited there last summer. There are 
five sensors there that support our mission. We have advocated, 
with the Department of the Army, for investments there, to make 
sure that the infrastructure can support those missions, and, 
in fact, my combatant command is in the process right now of 
defining exactly what the support requirements are that we need 
there, so we can put those into our next O plan, to make sure 
the Army understands exactly what requirements we need. But 
that is a very important location for us.
    If you can just keep the Committee informed of that, of 
what the need is, whether it is authorities or funding, it 
could be an important part of our ongoing deliberations. Thank 
you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Rounds, 
you are recognized.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, 
General Whiting and General Cotton, I want to thank you both 
for your service to our country and for the role that you play 
in keeping our country safe.
    General Whiting, I will begin with you, and I am going to 
have the same question for General Cotton, as well. How 
important is it that the use of the electromagnetic spectrum, 
in particular areas of the lower 3 GHz band and the 7-8 GHz 
band of the spectrum, be maintained by the Department of 
Defense? I have asked this of over 24 separate uniformed 
officers over the last 2 years, and the answer has been 
consistent. But I wanted to hear it from both of you again 
today, in terms of the need to have that access for the defense 
of our country.
    Would you, General Whiting, explain, at least, or confirm 
clearly the need for the Department of Defense to maintain its 
ability to use that unimpeded, in that particular range of the 
spectrum, please?
    General Whiting. Senator, thank you for the question. I 
totally agree that those two bands are very important to our 
mission, in fact, vital. The lower three, or that 3 GHz region, 
is an area where we have radars and sensors which allow us to 
detect, track, and engage targets through all weather, and we 
have a number of capabilities there like the SPY-1 and SPY-6 
radars, which are on Navy ships, that can support our mission; 
the long-range detection radar in Alaska, which is critical for 
missile defense; the Space Fence and the future Deep Space 
Advanced Radar concept.
    Then in the higher bands that you discussed, the 7 and 8 
GHz, that is vital for SATCOM and special missions that we 
execute there, and we could not do our global wide-band 
satellite communication mission without that spectrum, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General Whiting. General Cotton, 
same questions.
    General Cotton. Senator, I would echo exactly what my dear 
friend said in regard to the lower bands. If we loose the 
ability for early detection, that takes away decision space for 
decision leaders and decisionmakers in regard to being able to 
execute operational plans. So when we talk about what it 
affects in regard to ISR, it is going to be incredibly 
important.
    In the higher bands, part of my UCP is global reach through 
global strike. The bomber force, as an example, has the ability 
to traverse all over the world. SATCOM communications are going 
to be vital for those weapon systems today and in the future.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General. Also, General Cotton, 
you have mentioned it a little bit already, but with the B-21, 
there was the decision about we are acquiring 100 of them 
currently, the number has been debated. Should it be 145? 
should it be more than that? I have appreciated your indication 
that you have come around to approximately 145.
    Can we talk a little bit about this, I mean, this is the 
next generation. This is the six-generation aircraft, this 
platform that is there. Can you talk a little bit, in this open 
discussion, but I think the American public need to understand 
just what a platform this is and what it is capable of doing, 
and once again, in this unclassified environment.
    General Cotton. Thank you for that, Senator. When we talk 
about stealth, there are actually only two platforms on the 
face of the Earth that has all-stealth capability, and that is 
the current B-2 Spirit and its next-generation replacement, the 
B-21. There is no other all-aspect stealth aircraft on the face 
of the planet. The B-2 is the only one, and the B-21 just will 
dwarf its capabilities with the advanced technologies that it 
has.
    It will be the predominant bomber for the United States Air 
Force moving forward, as we move to a two-bomber fleet, which 
will only be the B-21 and the B-52 and the modified version of 
that, the B-52J.
    So it is incredibly important. It is incredibly lethal, 
with a stand-in and stand-out capability. So that is why I am a 
big proponent on constant production that far exceeds 100, to 
the 145 number, to get us to about 220 with those two 
platforms.
    Senator Rounds. I noted that you have had a view that 
indicated the need to accelerate the B-21 production. Can you 
explain just a little bit about why we need to accelerate that 
production?
    General Cotton. Sir, as we start to see the legacy systems 
start to divest, that the fleet has, the Air Force fleet, the 
B-1s and the B-2s, in particular, I want to make sure that we 
do not see a large bathtub in the ability of operational 
platforms that are available to be used.
    Senator Rounds. We have worn our current weapons platforms 
out.
    General Cotton. We do.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator Reed, 
you are recognized.
    Senator Reed. Thank you, Madam Chairman. General Cotton, as 
I indicated in my opening remarks, there was an issue regarding 
the separation of the dual-hatting of the U.S. European 
Commander, SACEUR. What is your military opinion of the effects 
this could have, possibly weakening the extended deterrence of 
your force, affecting your force structure in other ways, and 
also the potential to accelerate nuclear proliferation? I would 
note that the front page of the Wall Street Journal has an 
article titled, ``Wary Europe Eyes Own Nuclear Force.'' Could 
you comment, please?
    General Cotton. Thank you, Ranking Member Reed. I think the 
relationship that I have as far as my operational plans with 
General Cavoli, both as the EUCOM Commander and as SACEUR, to 
your point in your opening, is incredibly important in the 
execution of operational plans for me, even, in STRATCOM.
    As you know, I have a relationship with the United Kingdom. 
I have a relationship with SACEUR in the relationship of what 
the DCA aircraft bring to bear, to be able to hold the 
adversary at risk, and that is done through the lens of 
currently General Cavoli with the SACEUR hat. That would change 
a little bit if that commander was not a U.S. commander, in the 
relationship that I would have.
    Now, the relationship that I have with my allies and 
partners, especially my European allies and partners, is still 
steadfast, whether it be with the United Kingdom, whether it be 
with France, or whether it be with the other NATO nations.
    Senator Reed. Thank you. General Cotton, one other 
question. The Air Force has proposed a reorganization, which I 
understand has been put on hold until the new Secretary is 
confirmed, that would cede much of the operational control of 
heavy bombers away from Air Force Global Strike Command to new 
composite wings out of Air Combat Command. In response to this, 
Section 1631 of the 2025 NDAA stopped this until a report is 
submitted. It has not yet been received.
    How concerned are you about this reorganization impacting 
your nuclear deterrence mission?
    General Cotton. Senator Reed, today I have one belly button 
in the Department of the Air Force that presents two legs of 
the triad, and 68 percent of the NC3 capability, to me, as my 
component, and that is the Commander Air Force Global Strike 
Command. So as a four-star, the Commander of Air Force Global 
Strike Command has oversight and has the subject matter experts 
in the nuclear deterrent field, and he owns the bomber leg, as 
well as the ICBM leg.
    You know, all I ask of the United States Air Force is to 
ensure that when I have force presentation that I can still 
look to one person that can give me the answers to readiness, 
give me the answers to where we are acquisition strategies, 
gives me the answers to where we are on manpower and help that 
they might need. Today, I only have to look to Barksdale Air 
Force Base and talk to the Commander of Global Strike to get 
that answer.
    Senator Reed. Thank you. General Whiting, are you concerned 
about becoming overly reliant upon commercial providers for too 
many of the Department's missions into space? Do we draw a 
line? Do we ensure that this is a competitive situation?
    General Whiting. Senator Reed, I think the principle we 
need to apply is balance. For those things that we can go to 
commercial industry for, we should absolutely leverage that. 
U.S. commercial space industry is a massive advantage for this 
Nation, and it is an advantage that has widened over the last 
several years, and I think will continue to widen.
    But there are certain missions where we absolutely need to 
design and build for ourselves our own capabilities. For 
example, the space capabilities we provide to support General 
Cotton for nuclear command and control for SATCOM, those are 
not capabilities that are easily replicable in the commercial 
market. So we need to design those for purpose-built reason so 
we can assure to General Cotton, to the Secretary, and to the 
President that they can talk to their nuclear forces when 
required.
    So I think it is a matter of balance, and we need to apply 
that lens to each mission, sir.
    Senator Reed. Thank you very much. Gentlemen, thank you for 
your service. Thank you, Madam Chairman.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Reed. Senator 
Tuberville, you are recognized.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Madam Chair. Good morning, 
men. General Cotton, thanks for your service. Thirty-nine 
years. I retired after 40 years of coaching. After the first 
week I was sitting around the house, reading the paper, 
drinking coffee, and my wife said, ``You ain't been here in 40 
years. Get you a damn job.'' So here I am today. So don't think 
you are going to go home and fish and play golf. But thank you 
for your service.
    Gentlemen, in 2024, the Navy eliminated the lead Columbia-
class submarine, said it could not be delivered for 12 to 16 
months late. GAO also reported that late delivery of the lead 
submarine could jeopardize its planned availability for 
operations in 2030, and delays of the class could impact 
planned transition from Ohio-class submarines.
    If Columbia-class submarines are not available, General, 
what plans have we taken in that regard to fill the gap?
    General Cotton. Thank you for that question, Senator 
Tuberville, and you are right. Right now we are anticipating a 
12-to 16-month delay for the first Columbia-class.
    What is going to be incredibly important, and I say this 
constantly, is how do we continue to fortify our legacy systems 
until we do that. So what the Navy is doing is a project called 
PIRA, and that is the Pre-Inactivation Restricted 
Availability--that is what that acronym stands for--in which 
they will look at up to five boats and figure out which of the 
five boats they might be able to modernize or do some extended 
life work to, to make it so we do not lose anything from our 
legacy systems to counter the delay and create a bathtub in our 
capabilities on the submarine force.
    Senator Tuberville. What is the cost of that? That cost has 
got to be astronomical, though, right, if we are running late 
and we have to fill in a gap with that. I mean, have we looked 
at that, and do we have the funding?
    General Cotton. Well, you know, I do not have the numbers 
before me in regard to what the Navy is doing for the cost of 
PIRA. I can get that to you. We can probably talk about that 
and I will have it by closed session. But I think bottom line 
in that regard, we need to ensure that we keep that capability 
alive and well. I need to make sure that the tubes that are 
available on the SSBNs remain the tubes that are available on 
SSBNs, even if there is a slip to the new system that is 
supposed to replace it.
    So I am trying to make it so we prevent a catastrophic 
failure in regards of creating a bathtub, in all three legs of 
the triad, to ensure that does not happen.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, and again, thank you for 
your service.
    General Whiting, U.S. Space Command's role in missile 
defense, planning and operational support for Guam, how 
critical is that? Obviously you have been given that task. 
Where do we stand on that?
    General Whiting. Senator, Guam is a vital location for many 
of our national defense needs, including for space. Through our 
Joint Functional Component Command for Integrated Missile 
Defense we do provide that planning and operational support 
that you highlight. We are regularly working with INDOPACOM as 
well as the Missile Defense Agency, the Army, and the Navy to 
develop that architecture that is being delivered to defend 
Guam against the missile threats we now see, primarily from 
China.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, thank you. We are doing a lot of 
work in Guam. Obviously, an AEGIS system being put on the 
island as a first line of defense.
    Let me ask you, too, about the Golden Dome. The President 
gave us obviously that referendum that he wants to protect our 
country with some kind of Golden Dome. Do you have a certain 
group that works with that within Space Command, or is the 
entire Space Command working on this together? How does that 
work?
    General Whiting. Sir, it is a whole-of-command effort 
support a whole-of-Department of Defense effort. So it is 
certainly within my command, that subordinate command, the 
Joint Functional Component Command for Integrated Missile 
Defense has a leading role as well as my J8 Resourcing and 
Requirements Division. In fact, that J8 Division, we have 
partnered with NORTHCOM and General Guillot there to co-write 
requirements document for the Golden Dome for America, and we 
will be delivering that over the next few months to the 
Department of Defense.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Recently President Trump put 
me on the Board of Visitors for Air Force Academy. I look 
forward to coming out and visiting with you all and possibly 
seeing some of your work. So thanks to both of you for your 
service. Thank you, General.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Cotton, you are recognized.
    Senator Cotton. General Whiting, I want to return to 
Senator Reed's line of questioning about commercial space 
launch and any kind of risk it might pose us. You called the 
commercial space industry a, quote, ``massive advantage.'' I 
assume you are saying it is a massive advantage against our 
chief adversaries in this domain, China and Russia?
    General Whiting. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Can you give us a sense of scale of how big 
the--well, first off, commercial space launch, to be precise 
here we are talking about ULA, the United Launch Alliance and 
SpaceX. Correct?
    General Whiting. That has been the providers and now Blue 
Origin has recently demonstrated New Glenn. Yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. So can you give us a sense of scale of just 
how massive an advantage we have over, say, China because of 
ULA and SpaceX?
    General Whiting. Yes, Senator, and while I do not have the 
numbers I can qualitatively describe those. If you go back 
probably 5 to 10 years, the number of launches we were 
executing compared to those in China or Russia looked very 
similar. But over time, the U.S. has massively increased the 
number of launches, and that equates to what we call ``mass to 
orbit.'' So that means we are able to put more satellites on 
orbit, whether for commercial or government purposes, and those 
are getting cheaper and cheaper per pound, which also gives us 
more opportunities to leverage space for various missions.
    Senator Cotton. So you said 5 to 10 years ago we had 
roughly equal space launch capacity as China and Russia, but 
now we have substantially exceeded them, right?
    General Whiting. Correct. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. What has been the driver over the last 5 to 
10 years of that substantial increase? Is it ULA or is it 
SpaceX?
    General Whiting. Predominantly SpaceX. Yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. So if it wasn't for SpaceX, we might be in 
this position where we still are at near equivalence to China 
and Russia in space launch.
    General Whiting. They certainly have been innovative and 
rapidly changed that market. Yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. General Cotton, you have 
testified in the past, as have your predecessors, that China 
has undertaken a breathtaking buildup of its nuclear arsenal. 
It used to have what is called ``minimal deterrence,'' a 
nuclear arsenal just sufficient for a second strike. Obviously 
now it is moving on to first strike capabilities, whatever its 
rhetoric is. I think the Department estimates that has doubled 
its nuclear arsenal since Xi Jinping took power. It is 
projected to double again by the end of this decade, and maybe 
even double again by the middle of the next decade.
    Could you explain the kind of advantage this might provide 
China, not just in the nuclear balance of power but also in a 
conventional conflict, say if China decided to go for the 
jugular in Taiwan?
    General Cotton. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Nice seeing you. 
I think when we put in perspective where we were just left of 
probably 2018, and we saw it as a nascent threat, and the 
breakout that my predecessor announced, you are right. What it 
does in changing the calculus in our strategy is now we must be 
prepared for two nuclear peers instead of one. I would garner 
to say, Senator, included in that is two nuclear peers that 
have a transactional relationship that has blossomed over the 
last couple of years, as well.
    So as we look at the capabilities that we are seeing in all 
three legs, you are absolutely right. Having an H-6N with long-
range strike capability is not a regional hegemon weapon 
system. Having land-based ICBMs is not a regional hegemon 
weapon system. Building out their submarine force and having 
hypersonic weapons that are dual-use capable and FOB'd is not 
necessarily seen as a regional hegemon weapon system. So it 
makes us look at things a little differently, and our strategy 
has changed to compensate for that.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I will close on a couple of 
points. I have made them before. You have agreed with them 
before. I would love to hear your agreement one more time. Some 
people say about our nuclear weapons that we spend way too much 
money on weapons we never use. I respond to them that we 
actually do not spend that much money on them. We may be 
spending some money modernizing them now, compared to our total 
defense expenditures. But more importantly we have used our 
nuclear weapons every single day, going back 80 years this 
August, to prevent the kind of war that the world saw twice in 
20 years.
    Do you agree with that, General Cotton?
    General Cotton. I absolutely agree with that, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. I want to finally add my note of 
agreement, with our fantastic Chairwoman, Senator Fischer, on 
what she said about the nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise 
missile, also known as SLCM-N. The program held on by a thread 
throughout the Biden era, thanks to congressional support, and 
I am glad that you acknowledge how important it is, and that if 
anything, we need to do everything possible to accelerate that 
capability.
    Thank you, gentlemen.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Kelly, 
you are recognized.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Madam Chair. General Cotton, 
General Whiting, thank you for being here. I want to first 
touch on Golden Dome, and then I want to save some time for 
SLCM.
    I agree nuclear deterrence keeps us safe, and General 
Cotton, you mentioned two nuclear peers. One of my biggest 
concerns is the third one, which is the DPRK. I think it is 
fair to say that most of the time, with our nuclear peers, we 
are dealing with rational actors. We hope that is the case. 
That is the thing, part of nuclear deterrence, that they will 
act rationally.
    I am not so sure that is the case with the DPRK, and they 
are building more nuclear weapons. They are working on other 
systems to deliver them, and they can now range into the United 
States. I believe that is our view as a Nation.
    So can you talk a little bit about Golden Dome, and my 
concern with this is that it could potentially, even though I 
am not against the idea of a system that can protect the entire 
United States from incoming ballistic missiles, nuclear armed. 
At the same time, this could accelerate a growing number. Our 
adversaries' response to having a missile defense system could 
be to build more nuclear weapons, and if one or two get 
through, that is too many. Right now we do have a defensive 
system to protect us from a rogue actor in launching one ICBM, 
and my understanding is--and if you could share a little bit, 
General Cotton, about how effective that system is with the 
interceptors we have in Alaska and in California.
    So could you provide an estimate of how much this would 
cost and what enhanced capability we would get out of this. Do 
you feel we can build a system that is not penetrable?
    General Cotton. Well, thank you, Senator Kelly. I do not 
want to get out of my lane because NORTHCOM, General Guillot, 
is the one that is undertaking that role. My responsibility, 
from Golden Dome, is twofold in accordance with the EO, and 
mine is to make sure that I can assure that a second strike 
capability for the United States remains, and how do we ensure 
that.
    As far as the reliability of the ground-based interceptors 
piece, once again I do not own that platform. That platform 
belongs to NORTHCOM, and that is probably best for General 
Guillot to answer that.
    I do believe, and we heard my colleague talk about the 
layered approach that is kind of the essence of Golden Dome for 
America. I think that is the answer and the key on how that 
system can be deliverable, moving forward.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you. Thank you, General. I 
do agree. I think it is something we need to look into, and we 
need to look at a cost-benefit analysis of this and also 
consider how it would potentially change the nuclear deterrence 
posture of not only us but China and Russia.
    On SLCM-N, I know it was brought up here also, General. One 
of my concerns here, one of the things that makes us stand out 
is our submarine force, especially the attack submarines are 
incredibly effective. To integrate a tactical nuclear missile 
into a Virginia-class sub would take modifications that are 
significant, and you would have to put the security system that 
we have in effect for nuclear weapons. My problem, I think, 
that I have with this is in the Western Pacific this is a 
capability. Our attack submarine force is incredibly capable, 
and I think this would be somewhat disruptive. I think that 
needs to be a consideration before we go down the road of 
significant modifications to these systems.
    If you could just comment briefly on that.
    General Cotton. Senator, I think from my perspective a lot 
of those are TTPs that the Department of the Navy had, and I 
think they need to pull those out of the cupboard and look to 
see what those TPPs where when we had TLAM-Ns. I do not know if 
it would be disruptive, especially now that what we are seeing, 
especially in the INDOPACOM theater in regard to our allies and 
partners' ability of letting us have dual-use, nuclear-capable 
things arrive on their shores, the fact that I can now have B-
52s flying to Japan, where I did not before, and on the Korean 
Peninsula. I think there is work to be done, but I think it can 
be accomplished.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Madam 
Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Banks, 
you are recognized.
    Senator Banks. Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you to 
both of you for being here today. General Cotton, thank you for 
your service. You are a hero. What you have done over the last 
3 years is remarkable, and it has been an honor to work with 
you on the House Armed Services Committee and now again on the 
Senate Armed Services Committee.
    As we have talked about before, SLCM-N is meant to deter 
China and would be launched from attack submarines. SLCM-N is 
needed to help address capability and escalation management 
gaps stemming from the rapid growth of China and Russia's 
theater-range nuclear systems.
    General, do you agree with the 2018 Nuclear Posture Review 
that validated the need for SLCM-Ns, and if so, what does this 
need to still stand?
    General Cotton. I do agree, Senator, and thank you for the 
comments that you made. What was said in 2018 still holds true 
today, I think even more so. When I talk about being able to 
give a geographic combatant commander the ability to also hold 
an adversary in their region at risk, you can now see that what 
you are seeing in this weapon system is more than just a 
strategic weapon. It now can be a regional weapon and a 
regional deterrence, as well, for my fellow combatant 
commanders that hold the regions of responsibility.
    Senator Banks. What do we need to do to remain committed to 
it?
    General Cotton. The program of record has been established. 
We just need to make sure we continue to pump the well, to 
ensure that they move out. As the Chairwoman said, if we can 
get things to the left, I would gladly accept being able to get 
the articles quicker than later.
    Senator Banks. Got it. Fiscal year 2024 NDAA directed the 
Navy and the NNSA to develop and deploy an operational SLCM-N 
no later than 2034. Do you believe that we should still have 
SLCM-N no later than 2034?
    General Cotton. I would love to move that to the left, 
Senator.
    Senator Banks. Got it. General Whiting, the President's 
Executive Order to establish the Golden Dome for America 
stresses the need for both weapons to shoot down enemy missiles 
and the satellites to track them. The EO called for the, quote, 
``acceleration of the deployment of the hypersonic and 
ballistic tracking sensor layer.''
    If we are going to have an effective Golden Dome for the 
U.S. Homeland, how important is it that we expand our fleet of 
ballistic and hypersonic missile tracking satellites and space-
based sensors?
    General Whiting. Thank you for the question, Senator. For 
the modern threats that we need to track, we will only be able 
to do that from space, and we need to be able to maintain 
custody of those threats, not only when they are in the boost 
phase, when the rockets are burning very hot and we can track 
them with our infrared satellites, but then also when they are 
coasting, so that we can, again, maintain custody to engage at 
the various layers. So it is absolutely vital, Senator.
    Senator Banks. Do you agree with President Trump that we 
need to rapidly accelerate HBTSS so that we can have the 
sensors in space that we need to target incoming threats?
    General Whiting. I do, Senator. Those threats are real 
today, those more advanced threats, and our current systems are 
optimized against traditional ballistic missiles, not against 
the variants that we are seeing fielded today.
    Senator Banks. General Cotton, China leads the world in 
hypersonics and has hundreds of long-range hypersonic missiles. 
As you know, China shocked the world 4 years ago when its 
hypersonic vehicle orbited the entire Earth before landing. The 
United States has still not fielded a functional hypersonic 
weapon. Naval Surface Warfare Center Crane is a proven leader 
in hypersonics, as you and I have talked about many times 
before. How important is increased investment in hypersonics if 
we are going to regain our military edge over China?
    General Cotton. Senator, it is very important, and the work 
that I have seen done by Crane has been extraordinary for the 
Department of the Navy. I think investments, but actually 
production, and getting them to the warfighter so they can be 
implemented and put in our arsenal.
    Senator Banks. Got it, and finally, while we are replacing 
most of our nuclear arsenal in the next decade or two, we are 
keeping the B-52 bombers around well into mid-century. How 
critical is the B-52 program if we are going to keep those 
planes in the skies for decades to come?
    General Cotton. Incredibly important for us, sir. As I 
mentioned, Senator, we are going to move to a two-platform 
bomber force for the United States of America. It will be the 
B-21 and a B-52J. It is incredibly important that we get those 
75 birds and modify them with their replacement of their 
engines, their radars, and----
    Senator Banks. I have got 10 seconds. Can you talk about 
the advantages of the new B-52 engines over the old engines?
    General Cotton. Yes. The Rolls-Royce engines that are right 
there, being worked in Indiana, gives us incredible increase in 
range and speed and durability.
    Senator Banks. Thank you. My time has expired.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Banks. Senator King and 
I would like a second round before we had to classified, and I 
would like to followup on some of Senator Banks' comments about 
Golden Dome and space-based sensors.
    General Whiting, what would be the impacts to the mission 
effectiveness of SPACECOM were the government to auction off 
spectrum currently utilized by the Department? Could Golden 
Dome even take place?
    General Whiting. Ma'am, we could not execute Golden Dome 
without full access to those two spectrums that we discussed 
earlier, the lower 3 and then the 7 and 8 GHz. We use that 
lower 3 band, again, through so many of our radars, to be able 
to track from the ground, and then the 7 and 8 GHz band is so 
important for our communications and other special missions. I 
can only see those requirements getting bigger for those 
spectrums as Golden Dome delivers.
    Senator Fischer. If it was auctioned off, and if it was 
vacated by the Department, what is the timeframe, not to 
mention the cost. What is the timeframe in research, 
development for those new sensors to be even located in another 
spectrum that would not have the capability that the current 
spectrum has to even accomplish that. Ten years? Twenty years?
    General Whiting. Madam Chairwoman, I do not have a timeline 
because I think our focus has been not on vacating that but 
figuring out if there is a way to share that spectrum through 
dynamic spectrum sharing, and I understand there are 
technologies there that may make that available. The Department 
has done some studies on that and laid out a series of 
conditions that would need to be met if dynamic spectrum 
sharing can occur, and I endorse that those conditions must be 
met if we are going to figure out a way to share that spectrum 
with commercial industry.
    Senator Fischer. Can dynamic sharing take place now?
    General Whiting. Ma'am, I am told the technology is close 
to being ready. I do not know if it is actually ready today, 
but I would want to verify that, certainly.
    Senator Fischer. You would need to test.
    General Whiting. Yes, ma'am. Absolutely.
    Senator Fischer. General Cotton, same question to you. If 
the government were to auction off spectrum currently utilized 
by the Department, how would STRATCOM's mission effectiveness 
be impacted?
    General Cotton. It would be impacted, Madam Chair, because 
what would happen is, to the point that was made by General 
Whiting, you know, we count on understanding what the threat 
looks like, being able to see that threat before it actually 
comes--we call that ``left of launch'' type of activities--as 
well as what we are talking about in the higher bands on what 
is the capacity and capability of my three legs to be able to 
utilize SATCOM, et cetera. It would absolutely affect us.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Sir. Senator King.
    Senator King. Two things. I just wanted to followup on the 
discussion of hypersonics. I believe that we have missed two 
critical strategic technologies and are woefully behind, 
hypersonics and directed energy. These are things that we 
should have seen coming, and now we are playing catch up. I 
just want to emphasize not only do we need a hypersonic weapon 
for deterrent possibilities, but we need hypersonic defense. 
Those aircraft carriers in the Pacific are sitting ducks for 
hypersonic missiles coming at them 4,000 to 5,000 miles an 
hour, 100 feet above the surface of the ocean.
    So, hypersonic defense is something I think we need to 
invest in, as well as the development of a hypersonic offensive 
capacity in order, again, to provide a deterrent. General 
Cotton, would you agree?
    General Cotton. I do agree with that statement, Senator.
    Senator King. The other thing that I wanted to mention, it 
has sort of become conventional wisdom here that we are going 
from one near-peer adversary to two. I believe we are going 
from one near-peer adversary to three and a half because of, as 
I think you touched upon this, the growing cooperation between 
China and Russia. Then you put in Iran, which has also become a 
contributor to Russia's war machine, as well as North Korea, 
which is also contributing to Russia's efforts in Ukraine.
    I think we need to think strategically, not two near-peer 
adversaries, but the potential of two near-peer adversaries who 
are working together. That creates its own strategic 
challenges. General Cotton, what are your thoughts on that?
    General Cotton. Senator, you are absolutely right and that 
is what we are actually doing at STRATCOM today. When we look 
at, and you are right, I call them third-party influencers. 
What I mean by that and to your point, I would add, one, that I 
think is a little different nuance, that is the new 
relationship that we are seeing that is happening between 
Russia and the DPRK. So, we are talking about DPRK. We are 
talking about Iran. We are talking about China, as well as the 
Russian Federation.
    Senator King. I think we have to assume that in a time of 
serious conflict it would not be just with one or the other. It 
could well and probably would involve all four of those powers 
that you have mentioned.
    General Cotton. That is why I call them the third-party 
influencers because what they could do is they can be a 
distraction from the main effort that could be launched by any 
one of those that we had mentioned.
    Senator King. General Whiting, your thoughts on that new 
strategic reality?
    General Whiting. Senator, we watch those same four 
countries that General Cotton just mentioned, and their 
bilateral relationships with each other, and we see 
increasingly that space is becoming an area where countries 
with more sophisticated space knowledge, like Russia or China, 
appear to be willing to tradeoff that space knowledge for 
something that they want in return, whether that is armaments 
or some other political agreement. So we are very concerned 
with that and watching how they are cooperating on space.
    Senator King. I just think that this new relationship needs 
to be part of our strategic thinking going forward, to inform 
things like the Nuclear Posture Review and also the fundamental 
defense strategy.
    Thank you very much, gentlemen. Thank you again for your 
service, and I appreciate having been able to work with you. 
You are still at it. He is the guy that is leaving. We are 
going to miss you, General. Thank you.
    Senator Fischer. We have him for a while yet.
    With that we will adjourn the open session of this hearing 
and reconvene down in classified in order to have our 
classified briefing from you gentlemen. Thank you very much.
    This section of the hearing is closed.
    [Whereupon, at 10:44 a.m., the Subcommittee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                              golden dome
    1. Senator Warren. General Cotton, what is United States Strategic 
Command's (STRATCOM) estimate or range for the cost of deploying the 
Iron Dome of America/Golden Dome (Golden Dome) or a similar system 
across the entire United States? Please describe your methodology for 
the estimate or the source.
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding the cost of deploying Golden Dome and the 
methodology for estimating this cost.

    2. Senator Warren. General Cotton, if Congress does not provide 
significantly more funding, what specific programs would need to be cut 
or scaled back to fund such a deployment and ensure programs were not 
duplicative?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding programmatic decisions.

    3. Senator Warren. General Cotton, given that the Israeli Iron Dome 
is designed to intercept slow, short-range threats, what is the 
technical plan to adapt that system into one that can counter more 
advanced missile threats possessed by America's adversaries?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding technical plans to adapt Golden Dome to 
counter advanced missile threats.

    4. Senator Warren. General Cotton, how much would such adaptations 
cost?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding cost estimates for technical plans to 
adapt Golden Dome to counter advanced missile threats.

    5. Senator Warren. General Cotton, what timeline would be required 
to field an operational system for the Golden Dome?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding the timeline required to field Golden 
Dome.

    6. Senator Warren. General Cotton, in the 1990's, it was determined 
that space-based missile defense (SDI/``Star Wars'') was too 
technically challenging and prohibitively expensive. What are the 
greatest technological risks now for pursuing a similar program?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding technical risks to pursuing Golden Dome.

    7. Senator Warren. General Cotton, former Under Secretary of 
Defense for Research and Engineering Michael Griffin and former Deputy 
Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering Lisa Porter, 
who both served during the first Trump administration, contend that the 
Missile Defense Agency (MDA) is not structured to lead an effort of 
this magnitude. Do you agree with their assessment?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding whether MDA is structured appropriately.

    8. Senator Warren. General Cotton, Griffin and Porter contend that 
the Golden Dome program management should not be performed within any 
existing agency. Do you agree, and if so, should a new agency be 
created to manage this program?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. 
Therefore, defer to OSD for information regarding program management 
efforts for Golden Dome.

    9. Senator Warren. General Cotton, do you believe the Golden Dome 
would require an entirely new approach to command and control?
    General Cotton. Although USSTRATCOM is directed to support the 
Golden Dome planning process, we are not leading this effort. Defer to 
OSD for information regarding command and control requirements for 
Golden Dome.
                         nuclear modernization
    10. Senator Warren. General Cotton, given the costs of deploying 
and maintaining a new nuclear cruise missile, should this program take 
precedence over investments in conventional capabilities like 
shipbuilding that could achieve similar deterrent effects?
    General Cotton. Defer to OSD for determination of investment 
priority for the Department. The Nation's investments for defense 
should be an integrated and carefully balanced portfolio of nuclear and 
non-nuclear/conventional capabilities.
    The deterrence and assurance effects of capabilities like a Nuclear 
Sea-Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM-N) and other theater nuclear 
capabilities are qualitatively different than those of both 
conventional capabilities and the existing capabilities of the 
strategic nuclear triad. Investments in SLCM-N and other theater 
nuclear capabilities are needed to supplement our portfolio and enhance 
the ability of the Joint Force to deter adversaries, assure allies and 
partners, and provide integrated options for achieving objectives and 
managing escalation by providing flexibility to the President.
    The need for the SLCM-N does not negate the need for conventional 
capabilities. A robust set of nuclear and non-nuclear capabilities is 
vital to successfully concluding conflicts while managing escalation. 
The demand for tankers, ships, and conventional prompt global strike 
weapons across Combatant Commands continues to grow. USSTRATCOM 
continues to advocate for rapid development and fielding of advanced 
conventional capabilities and is expanding efforts toward Conventional 
Nuclear Integration (CNI). The integrated employment of non-kinetic 
capabilities (e.g., space, cyber, electromagnetic spectrum), combined 
with conventional and nuclear operations, must be considered through 
all phases from competition to conflict.

    11. Senator Warren. General Cotton, has STRATCOM evaluated the 
operational effects that a new nuclear-armed cruise missile would have 
on the conventional mission?
    General Cotton. Defer to OSD for an evaluation of operational 
effects a new nuclear-armed cruise missile would have on the 
conventional mission. The Nuclear Employment Strategy of the United 
States requires integration of non-nuclear capabilities into nuclear 
planning. In partnership with seven other Combatant Commands, the Joint 
Staff, Army, Air Force, and Navy, USSTRATCOM continues to expand 
efforts toward Conventional Nuclear Integration (CNI) with a 2-year 
Joint CNI Test to develop a concept of operations to update the process 
for developing CNI options during competition. This effort will further 
inform both conventional and nuclear requirements processes to support 
CNI operational requirements and ensure the United States is postured 
effectively.

    12. Senator Warren. General Cotton, how long could Minuteman III 
ICBMs (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile), the current ground-based 
leg of the nuclear triad, stay operational?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Air Force for specifics on MMIII 
sustainment efforts; however, the legacy MMIII ICBM will remain 
critical to my deterrence and assurance objectives until replaced by 
the Sentinel. I remain confident the Air Force, with the continued 
support of Congress, can adequately sustain the MMIII until replaced by 
the Sentinel program.

    13. Senator Warren. General Cotton, if the Air Force plans to 
extend Minuteman III to 2050, would the Air Force and lead contractor 
Northrop Grumman Corp. benefit from additional time to better plan and 
manage the Sentinel program?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Air Force for specifics on Sentinel 
timing; however, USSTRATCOM will incur additional operational risk the 
longer MMIII is deployed.
                   program requirements and oversight
    14. Senator Warren. General Cotton and General Whiting, do you 
agree that any new major defense program should receive an independent 
cost estimate before Congress funds the program?
    General Cotton. Defer to OSD on independent cost estimates for 
major defense programs. As a Combatant Commander, I expect weapon 
systems to be delivered ready and capable of providing options to the 
President.
    General Whiting. Cost estimates play a crucial role in the 
decisionmaking process for major defense programs, ensuring responsible 
fiscal stewardship and strategic planning. Independent cost estimates 
provide valuable insight into potential program costs and risks, but I 
also recognize the expertise and assessments provided by the Services 
and would add that integrated Independent Technical & Cost Estimates 
with qualified space professionals are important for space systems. It 
is important to consider all available cost evaluations to ensure 
comprehensive and informed budgetary decisions that best serve national 
security priorities.

    15. Senator Warren. General Cotton and General Whiting, do you 
agree that a Congressional Budget Office cost estimate of a major 
defense program would help inform decisionmakers at DOD (Department of 
Defense) and in Congress on whether a program is worth pursuing?
    General Cotton. Defer to OSD on a Congressional Budget Office cost 
estimate for major defense programs. As a Combatant Commander, I expect 
weapon systems to be delivered ready and capable of providing options 
to the President.
    General Whiting. We recognize the value of thorough cost 
assessments in driving informed decisionmaking for major defense 
programs. Congressional Budget Office cost estimates can provide 
additional insight that contributes to better acquisition outcomes, 
ultimately supporting the development of the combatant command 
capabilities our forces rely upon. At the same time, we acknowledge the 
expertise and evaluations conducted by the Services, especially for 
space systems in which accurate cost estimates must be informed with 
technical input from space experts. A comprehensive approach that 
incorporates multiple perspectives ensures well-rounded fiscal and 
strategic planning to meet national defense objectives.

    16. Senator Warren. General Cotton and General Whiting, how does 
independent technical expertise in areas such as nuclear and space 
science benefit your command?
    General Cotton. Nuclear technical expertise is critical to 
supporting USSTRATCOM's Unified Command Plan responsibilities. 
Independent nuclear technical expertise is vital to ensuring the 
Nation's nuclear capabilities remain safe, secure, effective, and 
credible.
    General Whiting. Independent technical expertise provides U.S. 
Space Command (USSPACECOM) the opportunity to review and comment on the 
strengths and weaknesses of relevant capabilities through the lens of 
Combatant Command responsibilities articulated in the Unified Command 
Plan. This expertise also enables a holistic assessment of capabilities 
across all Services and agencies, facilitating the integration of 
emergent capabilities into wargames, exercises, and modeling. For 
example, USSPACECOM leveraged John Hopkins University Applied Physics 
Laboratory on a Nuclear Electric Propulsion / Nuclear Thermal 
Propulsion space study that included the National Laboratories and DOD 
Laboratories to inform plans, define quality requirements, and develop 
concepts to increase the Command's lethality and provide decision 
flexibility.
                              arms control
    17. Senator Warren. General Cotton, the U.S. and Russia are no 
longer engaged in arms control negotiations, and New START (Strategic 
Arms Reduction Treaty) is set to expire in 2026. What specific risks 
does STRATCOM foresee if the U.S. enters a world without legally 
binding arms control agreements?
    General Cotton. Absent New START or a similar agreement, Russia 
would be unconstrained to expand its strategic nuclear forces, 
potentially adding to its already large arsenal that includes theater-
range non-strategic nuclear systems and novel weapons platforms. This, 
along with the expanding Chinese and North Korean nuclear capabilities 
and increasing collusion between all three states, exacerbates 
deterrence challenges and the potential risks of simultaneous or 
sequential conflict with nuclear-armed states.

    18. Senator Warren. General Cotton, given the historical success of 
arms control in reducing nuclear arsenals and preventing arms races, do 
you believe STRATCOM should be focusing on expanding nuclear 
capabilities rather than strengthening diplomatic engagement with 
adversaries?
    General Cotton. The USSTRATCOM mission is to deter strategic attack 
through a safe, secure, effective, and credible global combat 
capability and, when directed, is ready to prevail in conflict. The 
President assigned USSTRATCOM the responsibilities for strategic 
deterrence; nuclear operations; nuclear command, control, and 
communications (NC3) enterprise operations; joint electromagnetic 
spectrum operations; global strike; and missile threat assessment which 
together, underpin national security. As such, the command is focusing 
on modernizing nuclear capabilities (including all three legs of the 
triad and NC3) while sustaining legacy nuclear systems.
    Defer to the State Department on strengthening diplomatic 
engagements. However, I support verifiable arms control efforts that 
advance U.S., Allied, and partner security. I stand by to provide my 
best military advice if asked.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Jackie Rosen
                            nuclear testing
    19. Senator Rosen. General Cotton, Nevada has played a critical 
role in nuclear weapons development, but often at a high cost. From 
1951 to 1992, 928 nuclear weapons were detonated in Nevada, causing 
people and land to be exposed to toxic levels of radiation. That is one 
of the reasons why I strongly support the mission of the Nevada 
National Security Site and the Stockpile Stewardship Program, 
predominantly at the Principle Underground Laboratory for Subcritical 
Experimentation (PULSE)--an underground laboratory where scientists 
conduct subcritical experiments to verify the reliability, safety, and 
effectiveness of our nuclear stockpile. PULSE is undergoing a major 
construction project that will soon host the most capable weapons 
radiographic systems in the world. For decades, the national laboratory 
directors in their annual stockpile reports say that returning to 
explosive nuclear testing is unnecessary, with over 1,000 subcritical 
experiments and robust computer modeling providing the data to support 
those positions. Do you agree with these data informed assessments that 
it is unnecessary for the United States to resume explosive nuclear 
testing?
    General Cotton. At this time, there are no identified issues 
requiring a return to nuclear underground testing. However, the Nation 
needs to preserve this capability should the need arise.

    20. Senator Rosen. General Cotton, given the ongoing advancements 
in artificial intelligence (AI) for weapons design, the production of 
new pits to replace aging ones, and the modernization of PULSE at the 
Nevada National Security Site (NNSS), how do you assess these 
initiatives in providing greater certainty about warhead performance, 
even for new designs, as compared to our current stockpile stewardship?
    General Cotton. Defer to the weapons design experts at our national 
laboratories to provide specifics regarding increases in certainty from 
ongoing advancements. The Nation must continue to develop and field 
state-of-the-art non-nuclear test, modeling, simulation and 
manufacturing capabilities and tools to maintain confidence in our 
aging stockpile and modernize for the future.

    21. Senator Rosen. General Cotton, what is your assessment of how a 
resumption of U.S. nuclear testing would be interpreted by other 
nuclear states, particularly Russia, China, North Korea, Pakistan, and 
India?
    General Cotton. There are too many variables to accurately assess 
how other nations would interpret or respond if the United States were 
to resume nuclear testing. The scale, type, location, and timing of a 
test, as well as how the United States were to communicate the 
intention or rationale of the test, all have the potential to cause 
significantly different interpretations or responses. While the 
circumstances of U.S. testing could be interpreted by nuclear states as 
justification for restarting their own nuclear test programs, they 
could also be the impetus for increased calls for an international 
moratorium or other restrictions on further nuclear testing.

    22. Senator Rosen. General Cotton, do you assess that this would 
increase the likelihood of nuclear proliferation?
    General Cotton. I cannot speculate about other nations' sovereign 
decisions, which are made based on their own interests and perceptions 
of the geopolitical environment.
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                              golden dome
    23. Senator Kelly. General Whiting, the Administration is currently 
pursuing a Golden Dome--which is supposedly analogous to Israel's Iron 
Dome. To me, this is comparing Apples to Oranges. Stopping ballistic 
missiles is a different problem set than stopping rockets and mortars. 
While I don't oppose the idea of a Golden Dome, the cost benefit 
analysis must make sense before pursuing an astronomically expensive 
project. General Whiting, SPACECOM (Space Command) is responsible for 
missile defense operations, which means you would play a critical role 
in the creation of a Golden Dome. Can you provide an overview on our 
current missile defense capabilities, and if you were directed to 
implement a golden dome strategy, can you provide an estimate as to how 
much that would cost and what enhanced capabilities we would be after?
    General Whiting. The current missile defense enterprise is an 
integrated, layered architecture designed to provide multiple 
opportunities to detect and defeat incoming threats before they can 
reach their targets. Our current missile defense capability is divided 
into three primary areas: interceptors, sensors, and command and 
control systems. The Unified Command Plan directs USSPACECOM to provide 
``operational planning and support to trans-regional missile defense'' 
and to operate ground-based and space-based sensors to provide missile 
warning and missile tracking. U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and 
the other regional combatant commands are responsible for operating the 
interceptors using command and control systems provided by the Missile 
Defense Agency.
    Pending final direction on Golden Dome implementation, a more 
comprehensive layered defense approach is needed, which will require 
investments currently being factored into the President's Budget for 
fiscal year 2026, development and deployment of capabilities to defeat 
missile attacks prior to launch; boost-phase and perhaps midcourse 
intercept from space; non-kinetics; fully integrated command and 
control, as well as foundational sensor capabilities. USSPACECOM has 
been actively advocating for several enhanced capabilities that align 
with the President's Executive Order, such as the custody layer of the 
Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture and space-based interceptors 
capable of boost-phase intercept. As Golden Dome's architecture is 
still pre-decisional, and USSPACECOM's role is to define requirements 
as opposed to acquiring systems, I refer questions related to 
acquisitions and costs to the DOD.
                          space infrastructure
    24. Senator Kelly. General Whiting, as we continue to advance our 
capabilities in space, it's clear that space dominance is about much 
more than just ensuring we can access space. It's about ensuring we 
have the freedom to operate in space--protecting our assets and 
maintaining our strategic advantage in an increasingly contested 
environment. Our space infrastructure needs to be resilient, adaptive, 
and capable of evolving in response to emerging threats. This includes 
the ability to not only evade adversarial actions but also reposition, 
repair, and refit assets in orbit to ensure continuous functionality. 
General Whiting, given these priorities, I'd like to hear your thoughts 
on the Space Force's philosophy regarding these capabilities, and what 
plans you have in place to ensure that the U.S. remains capable of 
maintaining a strong, flexible, and secure presence in space.
    General Whiting. Space dominance is not just about access--it's 
about maintaining the freedom to maneuver, defending our assets, and 
preserving our strategic advantage in an increasingly contested domain. 
Achieving this requires a robust operational framework that ensures 
resilience and continuity. Recognizing these challenges, USSPACECOM is 
prioritizing the ability to deploy, regenerate, and reconstitute at 
scale across all levels of conflict. Therefore, we require a 
combination of responsive launch capabilities, maneuverability, and in-
domain logistics to be provided by the Services to guarantee 
uninterrupted space effects throughout the duration of a conflict.
    To support the Services' responsibility, we are leveraging 
structured processes that ensure our priorities align with strategic 
objectives. Through the Integrated Priority List process, we continue 
to emphasize a balanced mix of Service-developed capabilities. 
Recognizing our budget resources are finite and must be shrewdly 
allocated, I would like to highlight the increasing importance of 
investing in sustained space maneuver to secure our long-term strategic 
advantage.
                             nuclear triad
    25. Senator Kelly. General Cotton, I share the concerns a lot of 
folks have about the current modernization efforts of our Nuclear 
Triad. The Sentinel program faced a cost overrun that resulted in a 
Nunn-McCurdy violation. You recently stated we need to acquire 145 B-21 
raiders, with the current programmed 100 being the bare minimum for 
readiness. Finally, you stated in an interview that we need to build a 
greater number of Columbia class ballistic missile submarines If 
everything is a priority, nothing is a priority. Where do you see the 
greatest need for modernization in our nuclear triad?
    General Cotton. All triad modernization programs of record (PORs) 
are vital to maintaining nuclear deterrence. For a number of reasons, 
the Nation chose to delay nuclear modernization over the past several 
decades and our legacy systems are now well past their intended lives. 
Each leg of the nuclear triad must be modernized concurrently to ensure 
we retain a creditable deterrent. Additionally, our legacy triad 
capabilities must be sustained until the PORs deliver USSTRATCOM 
warfighting capabilities. USSTRATCOM will continue to accumulate 
operational risk until all PORs fully deliver.

    26. Senator Kelly. General Cotton, while we continue efforts to 
modernize our nuclear triad, how is STRATCOM strategically deterring 
our adversaries and ensuring our current arsenal remains relevant?
    General Cotton. The nuclear triad remains safe, secure, effective, 
and credible and ready to execute the mission. USSTRATCOM provides 
tailored strategies to effectively deter across a spectrum of 
adversaries, threats, and conflict, and backstop our extended 
deterrence commitments.
    All elements of the triad undergo rigorous inspections and follow 
consistent testing regimes to ensure existing capabilities remain safe, 
secure, effective, and credible.
    Furthermore, USSTRATCOM continues to assess capacity, capability, 
and the forces required to support our tailored deterrence strategies 
to ensure the current arsenal remains relevant.
                     spacecom and industry partners
    27. Senator Kelly. General Whiting, last year I discussed with your 
predecessor how SpaceX and Starlink temporarily discontinued services 
of their platforms during the conflict in Ukraine after they took issue 
with the `weaponization' of their technologies. SPACECOM was working on 
an initiative to ensure we wouldn't lose commercial capabilities during 
crisis or conflict. Can you provide an update on what steps you have 
taken to ensure we don't lose critical access to commercial 
capabilities during crisis or conflict?
    General Whiting. DOD's 2024 Commercial Space Integration Strategy 
describes how DOD will ensure access to commercial solutions across the 
spectrum of conflict: ``The Department will use contracts and other 
agreements as the formal mechanisms to ensure access to commercial 
solutions across the spectrum of conflict and mission areas. Contracts 
and other agreements will address the cyber, data, and supply chain 
security requirements that commercial entities will need to meet to 
work with the Department. As necessary, contracts will enable 
prioritization of Department requirements and capability needs over 
other commercial clients in specific situations.''
    USSPACECOM supports the DOD Commercial Space Integration Strategy 
by establishing the security conditions for integration, mitigating 
risk to commercial space actors inherent in supporting national 
security space operations. The Strategy states that: ``In appropriate 
circumstances, the use of military force to protect and defend 
commercial assets could be directed.'' USSPACECOM stands ready to 
protect and defend commercial assets from aggression in the space 
domain if directed to do so. USSPACECOM also mitigates risk to 
commercial space actors through sharing of threat information. In 2024, 
our Commercial Integration Cell, which enables sharing of classified 
threat information with the space companies the U.S. Government most 
relies on for space services, expanded to 17 commercial mission 
partners.
    We recognize that the DOD must maximize the gains from our 
innovative commercial partners, while avoiding dependencies that limit 
decision space. We will continue to seek ways to protect and ensure 
access to critical capabilities throughout all phases of conflict.

    28. Senator Kelly. General Whiting, the complexity and scale of 
warfare has expanded exponentially over the past decade--how is 
SPACECOM postured to leverage and capitalize on industry initiatives? 
How can we ensure critical capabilities get into the hands of the 
warfighter while the technology is still relevant?
    General Whiting. On January 6, 2025, USSPACECOM published our 
Experimentation Strategy to explore and promote utilization of emerging 
space domain technologies and innovate in support of all our vital 
missions, including deterrence. As a part of this drive for a culture 
of innovation, we also updated the Command's Commercial Integration 
Strategy, which captures how we will leverage industry initiatives. 
Through this strategy, we identify and advocate for promising 
technologies; incorporate and operationalize commercial partners and 
their capabilities into training and operations; and implement 
information sharing and protection of commercial capabilities when 
directed. The ongoing execution of this strategy includes the 
Commercial Integration Cell and Joint Commercial Operations Cell, as 
well as our integration of commercial quick reaction capabilities 
through our own initiatives and via the Services. Inserting these 
systems into planning, wargaming, and exercising is essential to give 
our warfighters the opportunity to determine effective and efficient 
employment before a crisis or conflict.
                           hypersonic weapons
    29. Senator Kelly. General Cotton, as you know, our adversaries 
continue to develop advanced weapons and capabilities to try to erode 
our competitive edge. Systems like hypersonic weapons add new 
complexity and danger to strategic deterrence. In your prepared 
statement, you referenced the danger posed by nuclear armed hypersonic 
weapons. The speed and unpredictable flight paths make hypersonic 
weapons more difficult to detect, track, and can reduce your margin for 
error and response time. Can you talk about the risks adversary 
hypersonics pose to your mission of strategic deterrence?
    General Cotton. On January 6, 2025, USSPACECOM published our 
Experimentation Strategy to explore and promote utilization of emerging 
space domain technologies and innovate in support of all our vital 
missions, including deterrence. As a part of this drive for a culture 
of innovation, we also updated the Command's Commercial Integration 
Strategy, which captures how we will leverage industry initiatives. 
Through this strategy, we identify and advocate for promising 
technologies; incorporate and operationalize commercial partners and 
their capabilities into training and operations; and implement 
information sharing and protection of commercial capabilities when 
directed. The ongoing execution of this strategy includes the 
Commercial Integration Cell and Joint Commercial Operations Cell, as 
well as our integration of commercial quick reaction capabilities 
through our own initiatives and via the Services. Inserting these 
systems into planning, wargaming, and exercising is essential to give 
our warfighters the opportunity to determine effective and efficient 
employment before a crisis or conflict.

    30. Senator Kelly. General Cotton, do you think hypersonics are a 
key aspect of our strategic modernization efforts?
    General Cotton. Yes, hypersonic weapons will provide a highly 
responsive, long-range, non-nuclear capability for distant, defended, 
and/or time-critical threats when other forces are unavailable, denied 
access, or not preferred. These weapon systems will provide senior 
leaders with additional credible strike options to influence all stages 
of conflict without crossing the nuclear threshold.

    31. Senator Kelly. General Whiting, SPACECOM is responsible for 
missile defense, what is SPACECOM doing to ensure we develop the needed 
technology to detect and respond to hypersonic threats with the 
required speed?
    General Whiting. Under the current Unified Command Plan, USSPACECOM 
is responsible for transregional missile defense planning, operations 
support, and sensor management. We work closely with USNORTHCOM, U.S. 
Indo-Pacific Command, and other regional Combatant Commands, who are 
responsible for missile defense operations employing systems supplied 
by the Missile Defense Agency.
    To effectively address the hypersonic threat, we are advancing 
operational concepts through the Golden Dome effort, advocating that 
the Services provide key technologies that stay ahead of emerging 
threats. Additionally, USSPACECOM is collaborating with USNORTHCOM to 
develop an Initial Capabilities Document for Golden Dome, identifying 
essential requirements to track and respond to hypersonic threats with 
the necessary speed and precision.
    Through our requirements processes, we continue to advocate for the 
accelerated integration of enhanced capabilities, including Hypersonic 
and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor, the custody layer within the 
Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture, space-based interceptors 
for boost-phase engagement, pre-launch and boost-phase missile defeat 
capabilities, and advancements in non-kinetic defense measures. These 
efforts align with the President's Executive Order on Golden Dome for 
America, ensuring our missile defense architecture remains agile and 
responsive to the evolving threat landscape.


 
                   THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MISSILE
                  DEFENSE ACTIVITIES IN REVIEW OF THE
                   DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR
         FISCAL YEAR 2026 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, MAY 13, 2025

                      United States Senate,
                  Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

            DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MISSILE DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 4:45 p.m., in 
room SR-232A, Russell Senate Office Building, Senator Deb 
Fischer (Chairwoman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
    Subcommittee Members present: Senators Fischer, Tuberville, 
King, and Kelly.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. I call this hearing to order. I would like 
to thank the witnesses for being here today.
    This Subcommittee has long worked on a bipartisan basis to 
strengthen and improve our national integrated air and missile 
defense architecture. Our adversaries continue to improve and 
diversify their ability to hold the Homeland at risk, including 
through ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise missiles. I remain 
deeply concerned that the status quo will not suffice in the 
coming decades, and I look forward to hearing from each of our 
witnesses about their work on the Department's various missile 
defense activities.
    General Guillot, as the Commander of United States Northern 
Command (NORTHCOM) you are ultimately responsible for the 
defense of our Homeland. I look forward to hearing how NORTHCOM 
is working to enhance domain awareness to provide a common 
picture of the operational environment.
    Ms. Yaffe, as you stated in your written testimony, missile 
defense and the space domain are intrinsically linked. I look 
forward to hearing your views on the evolution of missile 
defense and how space-based systems can continue to play an 
important role going forward.
    Lieutenant General Collins, I understand the Missile 
Defense Agency (MDA) will retain its key role in developing, 
testing, and integrating many of the technologies that comprise 
our missile defense system, and I look forward to hearing how 
we can expect to expand on these efforts in the coming fiscal 
year.
    Finally, I would like to welcome Lieutenant General Rasch, 
in his capacity as the Executive Officer of the Guam Defense 
System Joint Program Office. I look forward to hearing from you 
about the progress being made to expand and improve the 
integrated air and missile defense of Guam, which will protect 
over 160,000 American citizens living on Guam.
    I understand that we are still waiting for details of the 
fiscal year 2026 President's Budget Request to be released, and 
that the President is in the final stages of making key 
decisions about the Golden Dome system. While this means that 
follow-on conversations will be necessary once the 
Administration provides us those details, I still expect a 
robust conversation this afternoon on the future of missile 
defense. Thank you again.
    Senator King, would you like to make some opening remarks 
please.

            STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS S. KING, JR.

    Senator King. Thank you very much, Madam Co-Chair. Can I 
say that?
    Senator Fischer. Yes.
    Senator King. Thank you. This Subcommittee does work very 
strongly on a bipartisan basis. We look forward to your 
testimony. Very important hearing today with regard to a very 
important subject.
    Ms. Yaffe, I don't expect you to answer these questions now 
but I am giving you a preview. One of the questions is, in 
light of the multiplicity of threats now, whether it is 
standoff cruise missiles, Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles 
(ICBMs), sea-launched missiles, space-based weapons, is missile 
defense feasible? In other words, is it technologically 
feasible if we face a serious attack from an adversary that has 
not several dozen missiles but several thousand.
    Mr. Guillot--or General, I am sorry--one of the questions I 
am interested in is the importance of sensors. This discussion 
is often about missiles, but it is also about knowing what is 
going on, and particularly in your AOR I think there are some 
serious questions that bear discussion about our situational 
awareness.
    Finally, General Collins, I am interested in what is Golden 
Dome. In other words, what is the plan? What does it consist 
of? I did a little artificial intelligence (AI) research this 
morning and found out Israel is exactly the same size as New 
Jersey. So having a missile defense system in a limited space, 
also that defends against pretty small caliber munitions from 
the terrorists in the region, obviously more serious from Iran, 
but whether that concept can be transferred to the continental 
United States is a question I will be interested in.
    So I look forward to all of your testimony. Very important 
hearing, and I appreciate all the work that you do and the 
service you provide to the country.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King.
    Now I would like to begin with statements from each member. 
Who is going first at this point? Ms. Yaffe?

 STATEMENT OF ANDREA YAFFE, ACTING PRINCIPAL DEPUTY ASSISTANT 
  SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR SPACE POLICY, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

    Ms. Yaffe. Thank you. I am happy to start out to provide 
the policy perspective.
    Chair Fischer, Ranking Member King, and distinguished 
Members of the Committee, thank you for inviting me to testify 
on the Department of Defense's missile defense posture, on 
behalf of the Office of the Secretary of Defense. I am grateful 
to appear alongside my distinguished colleagues.
    Missile defenses are a vital element of our strategic force 
posture, both as a means of deterrence as well as defending the 
U.S. Homeland and security interests abroad. As we see nearly 
every day in conflicts across the world, offensive missile 
capabilities are now a central feature of modern warfare and 
routinely deployed to coerce and intimidate opponents, inflict 
tactical damage, and carry out strategic campaigns.
    Our adversaries are investing in the next generation of 
offensive capabilities to hold the United States Homeland at 
risk, coerce our allies and partners, and threaten our deployed 
forces.
    To counter these growing threats we need next-generation 
missile defeat and missile defense architectures that can 
complement our existing nuclear and conventional offensive 
capabilities. The President has mandated that the United States 
will develop and field a next-generation missile defense shield 
to provide for the common defense of our citizens and the 
Nation and deter, defend against, and defeat any foreign aerial 
attack on the Homeland. We will also guarantee our secure 
second strike capability. This broad mission set is the task 
before us today.
    Missile threats pose a substantial and growing risk to the 
American people, U.S. national interests, and our allies and 
partners. The growing cooperation and potential for more 
coordinated action among China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran 
is reflecting a shared interest in undermining United States 
interests globally.
    We also see these countries working together to advance 
their respective interests. Russia has provided technical and 
economic assistance to North Korea and Iran in return for 
thousands of munitions, attack drones, and ballistic missiles. 
Russia has employed North Korean missiles in Ukraine, resulting 
in improvements in their accuracy and destructive capability.
    Department of Defense (DOD) must content with adversaries 
possessing a range of sophisticated technologies, including 
advanced cruise and ballistic missiles and maneuverable 
Hypersonic Glide Vehicles (HGVs), as well as lower-tier threats 
like unmanned aircraft systems from both State and non-State 
actors. These capabilities continue to evolve and include a 
wide range of platforms, speeds, distances, and attack vectors 
that are easily concealed and evasive.
    This is where the value of missile defense, a core 
component of deterrence by denial, comes in. Robust missile 
defense capabilities raise the threshold for conflict and 
introduce uncertainty and complexity into attack planning, 
thereby undermining an adversary's confidence that an attack 
will be successful. The greater the cumulative challenges for 
an adversary, the greater the likelihood of avoiding an attack 
in the first place. If deterrence fails and an attack does 
occur, missile defenses limit the damage and assure the means 
of effective responses.
    Moreover, missile defenses provide time and space for the 
President to decide how to respond most effectively. The 
financial outlays of missile defense and missile defeat today 
more than offset the exponentially greater costs that would be 
incurred by the lack of defenses in a potential conflict 
tomorrow.
    Missile defense systems also contribute to deterrence by 
reinforcing our diplomatic and security posture while 
reassuring allies and partners. Should deterrence fail, the 
United States, our allies, and partners would need robust 
missile defense and defeat options, not only to defend and 
protect our interests but also to manage escalation. 
Integration with our allies and partners improves our all-
domain awareness, redundancy, and shot deconfliction. The 
deterrence by denial contributions to missile defense continue 
to serve as a complement to the cost imposition strategies 
offered by our conventional and nuclear forces. Together they 
give our decisionmakers time and credible options to deter 
aggression, assure lethality, protect the American people from 
harm, and respond to attacks if deterrence fails.
    The Department of Defense remains committed to making the 
necessary investments in our strategic posture to deter our 
adversaries and, if deterrence fails, to prevail in conflict. 
The missile defense and defeat mission requires sufficient and 
consistent funding and support.
    Thank you for your dedication to our mission and our 
servicemembers and for the opportunity to testify to you today 
alongside my colleagues. I look forward to answering your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Yaffe follows:]

                 Prepared Statement by Ms. Andrea Yaffe
                              introduction
    Chairman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and distinguished members of 
the Committee: Thank you for inviting me to testify on the Department 
of Defense's missile defense posture. I am grateful to appear alongside 
my distinguished colleagues. The Assistant Secretary of Defense (ASD) 
for Space Policy is the principal civilian advisor to the Secretary of 
Defense, the Deputy Secretary of Defense, and the Under Secretary of 
Defense for Policy on all missile defense and defeat activities. It is 
my privilege and honor to oversee this office pending the nomination 
and confirmation of a new ASD for Space Policy. For this testimony, I 
will review how air and missile threats have evolved over the last year 
and provide an update on our missile defense policy, strategy, and 
programs to meet these challenges.
    Missile defenses are a vital element of our strategic force 
posture, both as a means of deterrence as well as defending the U.S. 
Homeland and security interests abroad. As we see nearly every day in 
conflicts across the world, offensive missile capabilities are now a 
central feature of modern warfare. China, the Democratic People's 
Republic of Korea (DPRK), Russia, and Iran now routinely deploy 
advanced missile systems to coerce and intimidate opponents, inflict 
tactical damage, and carry-out strategic campaigns.
    Our adversaries are investing in the next generation of offensive 
capabilities to hold the United States Homeland at risk, coerce our 
allies and partners, and threaten our deployed forces. China, Russia, 
and the DPRK, are fielding more advanced missiles with greater ranges 
and in larger numbers to provide the means for strategic-level attack 
against the Homeland, including nuclear and conventional options. These 
adversaries are rapidly modernizing, expanding, and diversifying their 
missile forces, incorporating technological advances into warheads, 
delivery systems of all types, and supporting command and control 
systems. Iran, meanwhile, has the capability to strike targets 
throughout the Middle East and continues to arm its proxies in the 
region. The President's Golden Dome for America Executive Order 
underscores this point: ``The threat of attack by ballistic, 
hypersonic, and cruise missiles, and other advanced aerial attacks, 
remains the most catastrophic threat facing the United States.''
    To counter these growing threats, we need next generation missile 
defeat and missile defense architectures that can complement our 
existing nuclear and conventional offensive capabilities. The President 
has mandated that the United States will develop and field a next 
generation missile defense shield to provide for the common defense of 
our citizens and the Nation, and deter, defend against, and defeat any 
foreign aerial attack on the Homeland. We will also guarantee our 
secure second-strike capability. This broad mission set is the task 
before us today.
    Missile defense and the space domain are intrinsically linked as 
key elements of the necessary solution. Proliferated space-based 
sensors offer an optimal perspective for missile warning and tracking, 
and efforts in the space domain will be critical for the future 
technological growth of missile defense. The other essential 
requirement for countering missile attacks is to develop and deploy 
capabilities to defeat them prior to launch.
                          security environment
    Missile threats pose a substantial and growing risk to the American 
people, U.S. national interests, and our allies and partners. The 
growing cooperation and potential for more coordinated action among 
China, Russia, the DPRK, and Iran is displaying a shared interest in 
undermining United States interests globally.
China
    China is modernizing its missile forces to enhance its strategic 
deterrence capabilities and to deter and counter third-party 
intervention in regional conflicts. Today, China maintains a diverse 
arsenal of intercontinental-range forces, theater-range road-mobile 
ballistic missile systems, strategic hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) 
capable of carrying nuclear warheads, and sea-launched ballistic 
missile submarines that can hold the United States and our allies and 
partners at risk. China is expanding its nuclear arsenal at 
extraordinary speed, developing a nuclear triad of land-based and sea-
based missiles and a nuclear-capable strategic bomber. The United 
States Intelligence Community assesses that China will have more than 
1,000 operational nuclear warheads by 2030, many of which will be 
deployed at higher readiness levels. We remain very concerned about the 
lack of transparency from China regarding these developments.
    China is also developing more survivable intercontinental ballistic 
missiles (ICBMs) to improve its nuclear-capable missile forces. Its 
ICBM arsenal currently consists of approximately 400 missiles, 
including fixed and mobile launchers capable of launching unitary and 
multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles. China's development 
of advanced nuclear delivery systems, such as a strategic HGV and a 
fractional orbital bombardment system, creates new challenges for 
deterrence.
    China views the possession of advanced conventional missile systems 
as a means to coerce neighbors and subvert U.S. efforts in the region. 
China possesses a variety of conventional mobile ground-launched, 
short-range, medium-range, and intermediate-range ballistic missiles 
and ground-launched cruise missiles to enable long-range precision 
strikes within the First and Second Island Chains. This includes 
conventionally armed anti-ship ballistic missile variants and multi-
role missiles for targeting aircraft carriers and other ships in the 
Western Pacific.
    Beijing is also developing and testing more advanced theater-range 
missiles, including capabilities and methods to counter adversary 
ballistic missile defense (BMD) systems. This includes the DF-17 and 
longer-ranged DF-27 that have HGV payloads designed to evade early 
warning radars and associated defenses. More alarmingly, China is 
exploring the development of conventionally armed intercontinental 
range missile systems. If developed and fielded, these capabilities 
would enable China to strike all 50 states, the District of Columbia, 
and United States territories with conventional missiles. The 
introduction of intercontinental conventional capabilities has the 
potential to introduce uncertainty regarding whether an attack has a 
conventional or nuclear payload, thereby risking escalation to a 
nuclear exchange. In addition to missile development, China is making 
significant advancements in Command, Control, Computing, 
Communications, Cyber, Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and 
Targeting (C5ISRT) capabilities, such as a space-enabled targeting 
network, as well as counter C5ISRT capabilities, such as ground-based 
and space-based counterspace weapons, to strengthen their kill webs, 
enable the successful delivery of their long-range precision weapons, 
and, ultimately, hold U.S. and allied and partner forces at risk.
Russia
    Russia continues to field ballistic, cruise, and hypersonic 
missiles and is using these systems extensively in Ukraine. It has 
employed air-launched, ground-launched, and sea-launched systems, some 
of which could also deliver a nuclear warhead. In addition, Russia is 
pursuing novel and destabilizing nuclear systems that are additive to 
its existing capabilities, and are designed to hold the United States 
Homeland, allies, and partners at risk.
    Additionally, the direct-ascent anti-satellite missiles and on-
orbit counterspace capabilities being developed by China and Russia 
threaten the space-based sensors critical for our early warning and 
missile defense architecture. These threats underscore the need to 
create a shared international understanding what constitutes 
responsible operational rules for safety and stability in space.
DPRK and Iran
    The DPRK and Iran also have missile capabilities that threaten our 
territory, forces, and allies. The DPRK continues to develop its ICBM 
forces with frequent long-range tests of new systems, including the 
test last October of a new, more powerful solid-fueled missile capable 
of reaching most of the continental United States. The DPRK's 
conventional missile forces, including short and medium-range ballistic 
missiles, and cruise missiles, remain a substantial threat to the 
DPRK's neighbors and to U.S. territory and forces in the region.
    Iran possesses the largest missile program in the Middle East and 
twice demonstrated its willingness and ability to use this force last 
year with coordinated air and ballistic missile strikes of more than a 
thousand kilometers against Israel. Iran also remains the world's 
biggest proliferator of ballistic and cruise missiles and unmanned 
aircraft attack systems and related technologies to State and non-State 
entities. The recipients of Iran's support include Hamas in Gaza, the 
Houthis in Yemen, and Hezbollah in Lebanon. Like Iran, these groups 
have demonstrated a willingness to use these weapons--whether against 
Israel or commercial shipping in the Red Sea.
Adversary Cooperation
    We also see these countries working together to advance their 
respective interests. Russia has provided technical and economic 
assistance to the DPRK and Iran in return for thousands of munitions, 
attack drones, and ballistic missiles. Russia has employed DPRK 
missiles in Ukraine, resulting in improvements in their accuracy and 
destructive capability. The significant growth in the DPRK-Russia 
strategic partnership merits close attention because the two countries 
increasingly share resources, knowledge, and technology to bolster and 
expand their air and missile forces.
Adversary Missile Defense Capabilities
    China and Russia possess the largest integrated air and missile 
defense forces in the world, dedicated to protecting their respective 
homelands and forces from air and missile attack. China is modernizing 
its ballistic missile defense capabilities, fielding the indigenous CH-
AB-02 (HQ-19) and developing kinetic-kill vehicle technology to field a 
mid-course interceptor. This mid-course interceptor will form the upper 
layer of a multi-tiered missile defense. China tested a land-based, 
mid-course interceptor on February 4, 2021. Russia, meanwhile, has 
maintained a missile defense system to defend Moscow since the 1970's. 
It currently consists of about 68 nuclear-armed interceptors. Russia is 
also developing the S-500, which has some capability against ballistic 
missiles, and operates other credible air and missile defenses to 
defend critical assets and fielded forces.
                  missile defense strategy and posture
    DOD must contend with adversaries possessing a range of 
sophisticated technologies, including advanced cruise and ballistic 
missiles and maneuverable HGVs, as well as lower-tier threats, like 
unmanned aircraft system (UAS), from both State and non-State actors. 
These capabilities continue to evolve and include a wide range of 
platforms, speeds, distances, and attack vectors that are easily 
concealed and evasive.
    This is where the value of missile defense--a core component of 
deterrence-by-denial--comes in. Robust missile defense capabilities 
raise the threshold for conflict and introduce uncertainty and 
complexity into attack planning, thereby undermining an adversary's 
confidence that an attack will be successful. The greater the 
cumulative challenges for an adversary, the greater the likelihood of 
avoiding an attack in the first place. If deterrence fails and an 
attack does occur, missile defenses limit the damage and assure the 
means of effective responses. Moreover, missile defenses provide time 
and space for the President to decide how to respond most effectively. 
The financial outlays of missile defense and missile defeat today more 
than offset the exponentially greater cost that would be incurred by 
the lack of defenses in a potential conflict tomorrow. This premise is 
at the core of the Golden Dome executive order.
    Missile defense systems also contribute to deterrence by 
reinforcing our diplomatic and security posture while reassuring allies 
and partners. Should deterrence fail, the United States, our allies, 
and partners would need robust missile defense and defeat options not 
only to defend and protect our interests, but also to manage 
escalation. Integration with our allies and partners improves our all-
domain awareness, redundancy, and shot deconfliction, and we are 
working to overcome barriers to data and cost sharing.
    Last year, we witnessed this scenario unfold on multiple occasions. 
Iran's large-scale ballistic, cruise missile, and UAS attack against 
Israel in April and follow-on massive ballistic missile attack in 
October 2024 represented one of the largest concentrated barrages ever 
conducted by any nation. The successful coalition missile defense and 
missile defeat responses against both attacks created opportunities for 
strategic pause, allowing Israel to calibrate its next moves rather 
than rush into a counterattack with potential unintended escalation.
    The deterrence by denial contributions to missile defense continue 
to serve as a complement to the cost imposition strategies offered by 
our conventional and nuclear forces. Together they give our 
decisionmakers time and credible options to deter aggression, assure 
lethality, and protect the American people from harm and respond to 
attacks if deterrence fails.
    Space-based capabilities and assurance of nuclear second-strike 
capabilities are also part of the direction for a Golden Dome for 
America. The executive order calls for the ground-breaking development 
and deployment of a next generation missile defense shield capable of 
protecting the American people against a catastrophic missile attack. 
Golden Dome is a top priority for the Department and will include the 
development of cutting-edge domain awareness systems, kinetic and non-
kinetic missile defeat capabilities in the space and cyberspace 
domains, and advanced command, control, and battle management systems 
to integrate and augment traditional U.S. missile defense capabilities.
    Burden sharing with allies and partners is also a priority in the 
missile defense arena. Japan's co-development of the Glide Phase 
Interceptor with us is a prime example, as is their acquisition of 
Aegis system equipped vessels and SM-6 interceptors. Data sharing in 
the Indo-Pacific region is also a crucial initiative, with efforts 
already in place with Japan and South Korea, and discussions underway 
with Australia as well. Meanwhile, we are co-developing the Arrow 4 and 
co-producing Iron Dome, David's Sling, and Arrow 3 BMD systems with 
Israel, and Saudi Arabia is acquiring seven THAAD batteries. Closer, to 
home, Canada is acquiring over-the-horizon radars that will be helpful 
for the defense of North America. Finally, in Europe, Germany, Norway, 
Poland, Romania, Sweden, and Switzerland are acquiring Patriot 
batteries and interceptors. These allied investments are a start, but 
not sufficient to meet the growing threats that we collectively face 
today. As the Secretary has stated many times, greater burden-sharing 
is required, and we continue to emphasize this point in our discussions 
with our allies and partners.
                               conclusion
    The Department of Defense remains committed to making the necessary 
investments in our strategic posture to deter our adversaries and, if 
deterrence fails, prevail in conflict. The missile defense and defeat 
mission requires sufficient and consistent funding and support. Thank 
you for your dedication to our mission and our servicemembers, and for 
the opportunity to testify to you today alongside my distinguished 
colleagues. I look forward to answering your questions.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you very much. General Guillot, 
welcome.

   STATEMENT OF GENERAL GREGORY M. GUILLOT, USAF, COMMANDER, 
  UNITED STATES NORTHERN COMMAND AND NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE 
                        DEFENSE COMMAND

    General Guillot. Chair Fischer, Ranking Member King, and 
distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for 
holding this important hearing. North American Aerospace 
Defense Command and United States Northern Command have 
critical roles in defending The Homeland from missile attack, 
and your support remains vital to our success.
    I would like to start by recognizing the tremendous work 
being done by Lieutenant General Collins, Acting Principle 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense (ASD) Yaffe, and 
Lieutenant General Rasch. Northern American Aerospace Defense 
Command (NORAD) and NORTHCOM are fortunate to have such 
committed partners in our shared no-fail mission.
    Defending the United States from missile threats remains a 
top command priority. That mission is more important than ever 
as global competitors continue their rapid development and 
fielding of advanced missile capabilities and delivery 
platforms along with increased cooperation and technology 
sharing.
    To counter these growing challenges, NORAD and NORTHCOM 
rely on realistic planning, on-time investments based on 
specific threats, and forward-looking policies that ensure the 
command's ability to detect, track, and defeat potential 
threats in all domains.
    To ensure our ability to defend against missile attacks, 
NORAD and NORTHCOM require a layered, domain awareness network, 
from seabed to space, to detect and track threats to North 
America. That sensing network is vital to today's ballistic and 
cruise missile defense missions and to the Golden Dome concept 
because we can't defeat what we can't see.
    Alongside improved domain awareness we must also improve 
our capability and capacity to defeat advanced missile threats. 
The Next-Generation Interceptor is vital to countering North 
Korea's growing ICBM capability, and innovation investment in 
advanced defeat mechanisms, which could include directed energy 
and boost-phase intercept will be crucial against cruise 
missiles, hypersonics, and other advanced threats.
    There are significant challenges ahead of us, but NORAD and 
NORTHCOM stand ready to deter aggression and defeat threats to 
our Nation.
    Again, thank to this Subcommittee and my fellow witnesses 
for your continued support, and I look forward to your 
questions. We have the watch.
    [The prepared statement of General Guillot follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Gregory M. Guillot
    Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and distinguished members 
of the Sub-Committee: I am honored to appear today and to represent the 
men and women of United States Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and North 
American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). Both commands continue to 
defend North America through what is arguably the most complicated and 
rapidly evolving operational environment we have seen. The USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD operational environment remains diverse and dynamic, ranging 
from persistent competitor activity in the vicinity of North America to 
major natural disasters that have impacted millions of Americans. I am 
proud to report that the service members and civilian Federal employees 
at the heart of every USNORTHCOM and NORAD endeavor have risen to each 
challenge as they stand their unending watch over our homelands.
    USNORTHCOM and NORAD are distinct commands linked by history, 
collaboration, and a shared commitment to defending North America. 
USNORTHCOM was established in 2002 as the U.S. geographic combatant 
command responsible for homeland defense, security cooperation with 
allies and partners in the command's area of responsibility, and 
Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) in the continental United 
States and Alaska. USNORTHCOM is responsible for defending the United 
States--to include Hawaii and Alaska--from ballistic missile attacks, 
while the Commander of USNORTHCOM is also designated by the Unified 
Command Plan as the Department of Defense Advocate for Arctic 
Capabilities. Finally, in accordance with Presidential Executive Orders 
issued on 20 January, 2025, USNORTHCOM is rapidly integrating requested 
military personnel and assets to support the Department of Homeland 
Security (DHS) and U.S. Customs & Border Protection (USCBP) along the 
southern border, employing unique military capabilities in all domains, 
and developing plans for establishing territorial integrity along the 
southern border. USNORTHCOM's current mission in support of USCBP is to 
seal the borders and repel all forms of invasion including mass 
migration, narcotics trafficking, human smuggling and trafficking, and 
other criminal activities.
    Established in 1958 to counter the threat of Soviet long-range 
bombers, NORAD is the bi-national United States and Canadian command 
responsible for aerospace warning, aerospace control, and maritime 
warning for North America. For nearly 67 years, the United States and 
Canadian personnel assigned to NORAD have worked side-by-side in a 
shared commitment to continental defense. Forged through operational 
experience and a common vision, NORAD consistently demonstrates world-
class professional standards while executing its critical defense 
mission 24 hours a day. Today, NORAD remains the world's only bi-
national command, safeguarding the United States and Canada while 
routinely demonstrating seamless interoperability and operational 
excellence that our competitors can only hope to match.
    Together, USNORTHCOM and NORAD's experience, expertise, and 
dedication to homeland defense are more critical today than ever. 
Following years of steady investment, our strategic competitors have 
the means to overcome U.S. advantages provided by our favorable 
geography and advanced technology. Today, our competitors have the 
capability and capacity to threaten all of North America with a range 
of advanced nuclear, conventional, and non-kinetic systems while 
employing disruptive grey-zone, cyber, and information operations 
against the United States and our international partners. As part of 
that effort, competitors have formed strategic relationships that 
increase their collective ability to challenge U.S. and allied 
interests around the world with growing disregard of international 
norms or the sovereignty of nations that challenge their expansionist 
ambitions. Meanwhile, unprecedented flows of illicit drugs and human 
traffic across the U.S. southern border have created a crisis that 
undermines national security and the safety of citizens and communities 
across the country.
    The dynamic operational environment and evolving threats to North 
America require USNORTHCOM and NORAD to execute new missions on a 
moment's notice without sacrificing ongoing operations and future 
planning. USNORTHCOM and NORAD are fortunate to draw upon decades of 
shared history and lessons learned to shape the commands' plans and 
operations, and defending the homelands in the coming years will 
require forward thinking, advanced capabilities, and a professional 
workforce with the experience and technical knowledge necessary to 
plan, resource, and execute the commands' crucial missions in 
tremendously demanding conditions.
    The Homeland defense enterprise will continue to rely on realistic 
planning, targeted investment, and forward-looking policies that ensure 
the Commands' ability to detect, track, and defeat potential threats in 
all domains. USNORTHCOM and NORAD are working in close synchronization 
with each of the commands' interagency, international, and DOD partners 
to improve shared all-domain awareness, interoperability, and the 
defeat mechanisms required for a layered all-domain defense capable of 
deterring and defeating a wide range of threats to critical 
infrastructure, force projection capability, and our citizens.
    As competitor ambitions and capabilities grow, USNORTHCOM and NORAD 
remain committed to improving all-domain awareness, reinforcing our 
vital network of allies and partners, and fostering a workforce of 
skilled and dedicated civilian and military professionals. Each of 
these focus areas are critical to ensuring the homeland defense 
enterprise remains ready to deter and defeat any threat to our nations 
today and well into the future, and both commands have made significant 
strides in building the capabilities, networks, and people needed to 
execute their vital missions.
                        threats to north america
    The global security environment is growing increasingly volatile, 
characterized by intensifying competition among major powers and 
mounting threats to the rules-based international order. Among the 
myriad developments that are reshaping the strategic environment, three 
trends are of particular concern to NORAD and USNORTHCOM due to their 
immediate implications for our Homeland Defense mission.
    First, the likelihood of a direct conflict between the United 
States and one of its four principal adversaries is increasing. While 
the PRC, Russia, North Korea, and Iran each seek to avoid armed 
conflict with the United States, their perception of Western decline 
fosters a growing willingness to challenge the United States on the 
global stage and increases the risk of miscalculation in a crisis. As 
Russia's brutal and misguided invasion of Ukraine enters its fourth 
year, there remain several plausible pathways by which the war could 
escalate into a direct military conflict with the United States. 
Similarly, the conflict ignited by Hamas' October 2023 attack on Israel 
has expanded to encompass much of the Middle East and threatens to 
embroil the United States in a direct military conflict with Iran and 
its proxies.
    Meanwhile, simmering tensions in the Taiwan Strait and South China 
Sea carry a persistent risk of escalation into armed conflict between 
China and the United States, with consequences that could span a 
generation. Finally, Kim Jong Un's public abandonment of peaceful 
reunification as a national goal and growing assertiveness on the 
global stage risks sparking renewed conflict on the Korean Peninsula 
after more than seven decades of uneasy Armistice.
    Second, strategic cooperation between and among our four principal 
adversaries has grown substantially since the beginning of the Ukraine 
War, increasing the risk that war with one adversary could quickly 
expand into war with an enemy coalition. To date, each of these 
relationships has remained mostly transactional, and none has advanced 
to the level of a formal military alliance. Nonetheless, these 
countries' shared perceptions of the West as a global destabilizing 
force could form the foundation of a wartime partnership. At the center 
of this concerning dynamic is a rapidly evolving relationship between 
the United States' two most capable adversaries.
    Despite decades of mutual mistrust, Beijing and Moscow seem 
determined to advance their strategic partnership and military 
cooperation to counter what they perceive as a persistent United States 
threat to their core security interests. Catalyzed by the onset of a 
major war, this nascent military cooperation could quickly expand into 
coordinated military operations that complicate U.S. and allied 
planning and advance each adversary's ability to threaten North 
America. We saw glimpses of this enhanced military cooperation last 
summer when Chinese bomber aircraft deployed to a Russian Arctic 
airbase and flew a combined patrol with Russian heavy bombers over the 
Bering Sea.
    Such ``access transfer'' accelerates and extends China's ability to 
threaten North America in the air domain and raises the specter of 
coordinated military operations in the event of a strategic conflict. 
Separately, North Korea's willingness to risk its own troops in support 
of Russia's war in Ukraine demonstrates the lengths to which these 
partners are willing to go to advance their strategic positions and 
defy the Western-led international order. It also raises concerning 
questions about the quid pro quo that Moscow may offer in return, 
potentially including expertise that could accelerate Pyongyang's 
development of advanced strategic weapons.
    Third, each of our adversaries is advancing its ability--and, in 
some cases, rehearsing its plans--to threaten North America in multiple 
domains and from multiple vectors, increasing the likelihood that an 
armed conflict would include direct strikes on the Homeland. The PRC is 
expanding its ability to hold portions of North America at risk with 
conventionally armed weapons, providing Beijing a strike option against 
our Homeland that is above its demonstrated robust cyberattack 
capabilities but below its threshold for nuclear use. Last July, 
Chinese surface combatants deployed to the Bering Sea for the fourth 
straight year and operated within cruise missile range of critical 
infrastructure throughout Alaska. Since 2023, China has launched two 
hulls of its new Shang III class of nuclear-powered guided-missile 
submarines (SSGN), which in the coming years could provide Beijing a 
clandestine land-attack option against critical infrastructure in 
Alaska and the U.S. West Coast. In November, China incorporated air-
refuellable H-6N medium bombers into a Sino-Russian combined bomber 
patrol, marking the first long-range use of a platform that will extend 
the PLA Air Force's strike range to include portions of Alaska even 
without basing or overflight permissions from the Russians. Finally, 
China may be exploring the development of conventionally armed ICBMs 
that could allow Beijing to strike targets in Alaska and the 
continental United States without crossing the nuclear threshold.
    Meanwhile, China is advancing the quantity and sophistication of 
its North America-threatening nuclear deliver platforms. Chinese 
missile developers are probably developing nuclear-armed ICBMs equipped 
with hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) or the ability to fly a 
fractional orbital bombardment system (FOBS) trajectory that approaches 
North America from the south rather than the traditional northerly 
vector for which our legacy early warning radars were designed. Such 
systems, if fielded, would erode strategic stability by degrading our 
ability to provide granular and actionable warning of an inbound 
attack.
    Despite the degradation of its warfighting capabilities in Ukraine, 
Russia has enhanced its already formidable capability to threaten North 
America with conventionally armed air-and sea-based cruise missiles. 
Three years of strike operations into Ukraine have provided valuable 
operational experience to Russian aircrews and naval forces. In the 
last year, Russia's heavy bomber fleet has resumed its pre-war pace of 
strategic deterrence patrols--including multiple flights along the 
North American coastline--while simultaneously intensifying its strike 
operations into Ukraine. In the maritime domain, the Russian submarine 
force conducted its first port call in Cuba since the cold war and 
further integrated advanced Severodvinsk-class SSGNs into the Russian 
Pacific Fleet, portending regular--and potentially concurrent--patrols 
by cruise missile-capable submarines off North America's Atlantic and 
Pacific coasts.
    In the nuclear domain, Russia fielded the world's first HGV-
equipped ICBM over 5 years ago and continues to develop and test other 
novel nuclear delivery systems, like the FOBS-capable Sarmat heavy 
ICBM, the Poseidon transoceanic torpedo, and the Burevestnik nuclear-
propelled cruise missile. If fielded, these advanced weapons will 
severely challenge our ability to detect and characterize an inbound 
attack and determine an appropriate response during a conflict.
    North Korea continues to defy the international nonproliferation 
regime and advance its strategic weapons program. Kim Jong Un's newest 
ICBM--the Hwasong-19 he first tested last October--probably can deliver 
a nuclear payload to targets throughout North America while minimizing 
our ability to provide pre-launch warning due to the shortened launch 
preparation timelines afforded by its solid-propellant design. Regime 
rhetoric surrounding the new ICBM suggests Kim is eager to transition 
his strategic weapons program from research and development to serial 
production and fielding, a process that could rapidly expand North 
Korea's inventory and narrow my confidence in USNORTHCOM's ballistic 
missile defense capacity in the coming years.
    Finally, Iran retains the capability to strike the United States in 
the cyber domain and through its asymmetric and proxy operations. 
Meanwhile, Iran's burgeoning nuclear energy and space launch programs 
provide a viable pathway for developing a North America-threatening 
ICBM should its leaders determine that they need a more forceful means 
of challenging the United States.
    Separately, we face a variety of non-traditional threats that could 
disrupt critical services in the Homeland and degrade NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM's ability to carry out our no-fail missions. Key among these 
is a spate of activity over the past year involving small uncrewed 
aircraft systems (sUAS) operating over sensitive DOD installations and 
other Defense Critical Infrastructure. While much of this activity may 
be attributable to hobbyists, peer adversaries clearly have incentive 
to collect intelligence on these installations, and our law enforcement 
partners have uncovered evidence of a foreign intelligence nexus in 
some of these incidents.
    Meanwhile, our principal adversaries are concentrating their 
increasingly sophisticated offensive cyberoperations on U.S. defense 
and civilian infrastructure. Over the last year, Russian-affiliated 
cyber actors have conducted attacks on water supply, wastewater, 
hydroelectric, and energy facilities in the United States, while PRC-
sponsored cyber actors have positioned themselves on IT networks in 
multiple United States sectors, potentially enabling them to rapidly 
transition to disruptive attacks in the event of a crisis or conflict.
    Finally, I remain highly concerned by threats presented by non-
State actors. USNORTHCOM assesses the threat of a foreign terrorist 
attack in North America is at the highest level in at least 5 years, as 
the Israel-Hamas conflict has motivated foreign terrorist organizations 
to rejuvenate their attack planning against the United States. These 
groups have also redoubled their propaganda efforts in the last 18 
months to inspire lone-wolf terrorists to pursue attacks within the 
Homeland, as seen with the deadly January 1st 2025 attack in New 
Orleans.
    Separately, transnational criminal organizations based in Mexico 
continue to threaten United States sovereignty and territorial 
integrity through the production and trafficking of fentanyl and other 
dangerous drugs and the facilitation of unlawful mass migration toward 
the U.S. southern border. Drug-related violence has escalated in recent 
years as rival cartels fight for control of lucrative drug and human 
trafficking routes and demonstrate a growing willingness to directly 
engage Mexican security forces, increasing the risk of spillover 
violence into the United States.
                         defending the homeland
    Homeland defense remains USNORTHCOM and NORAD's top priority and 
essential task. Strategic competitors continue their rapid testing and 
fielding of precision weapons systems capable of striking targets well 
into the U.S and Canadian interior. As those threats increase, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are tasked with defending critical defense 
infrastructure in the Homeland from attack in order to preserve U.S. 
Force projection capability and mitigating risks to vital 
transportation, energy, and manufacturing hubs. Addressing threats from 
long-range missiles, cyberattacks, and unmanned aerial systems requires 
close coordination and collaboration with a host of interagency, 
international, and DOD partners, and USNORTHCOM and NORAD are ideally 
situated to serve as the synchronizer and integrator for that crucial 
whole-of-government enterprise.
    Over the course of the last year, USNORTHCOM and NORAD have 
expanded on already robust efforts to improve the capability of the 
Joint Force and the interagency community to defend key sites--from 
military installations to civilian transportation and energy nodes--
from attack. That effort is making significant progress thanks in large 
part to the expertise, cooperation, and commitment of our DOD and 
interagency partners. As this critical effort moves forward, success 
will depend on collaboration across the interagency community, as well 
as on developing the forward-looking capabilities and policies 
necessary to ensure a seamless and well-coordinated defensive 
enterprise that accounts for the unique requirements of conducting 
defensive operations inside the United States and Canada.
    In the event of combat operations or attacks against the United 
States, USNORTHCOM will have a role in protecting DOD installations--
along with airports, seaports, rail networks, and highway 
infrastructure necessary to project forces into overseas geographic 
combatant commands--from both kinetic and cyber threats. USNORTHCOM is 
actively engaged with the whole-of-government enterprise involved in 
this nationwide effort to refine the plans and deployable, low-
collateral capabilities required to mitigate the wide range of threats 
to these key sites inside the United States.
Protecting Territorial Integrity
    Following the January 20, 2025 Presidential declaration of a 
national emergency on the U.S. southern border, USNORTHCOM was assigned 
amplified responsibilities for maintaining the territorial integrity 
and sovereignty of the United States. In accordance with Presidential 
Executive Orders and Department directives, USNORTHCOM immediately 
deployed 1,800 military personnel, aircraft, and equipment to the 
southern border to reinforce existing Federal military personnel, 
aircraft, and equipment to the southern border to reinforce existing 
Federal military personnel, aircraft, and equipment to the southern 
border to reinforce existing Federal military personnel, aircraft, and 
equipment to the southern border to reinforce existing Federal border 
security operations in support of U.S. Customs and Border Protection 
(USCBP). Meanwhile, the command is preparing a Commander's estimate and 
a detailed contingency plan (CONPLAN), in accordance with Presidential 
Executive Orders and Department directives, toprovide steady-state 
border security in accordance with the pending update to the Unified 
Campaign Plan (UCP) directed by the President. USNORTHCOM's priority is 
to meet the requirement and intent of these directives, and the 
command's actions and plans reflect the urgency associated with the 
President's emergency declaration.
Defending Against Air and Missile Threats
    The DPRK continues to test increasingly capable ICBMs, while Russia 
and the PRC have steadily expanded their stockpiles of highly capable 
long-range land-attack cruise missiles and the fleets of the delivery 
platforms that launch them. The risks to the homeland posed by nuclear-
armed ICBMs are clear, while advanced PRC and Russian cruise missiles 
are difficult to detect and can carry both nuclear and conventional 
payloads. All of these weapons can be launched against the United 
States and Canada in an effort to degrade the infrastructure enabling 
United States military force projection, inflict economic harm, and 
weaken public support for U.S. intervention in overseas conflicts.
    As air and missile threats to the homeland will continue to mount, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are taking immediate actions to implement the 
January 27, 2025 Executive Order directing the building of a Missile 
Defense Shield for North America. USNORTHCOM and NORAD envision this 
defensive system of systems as three overlapping defensive domes that 
will provide a continental all-domain awareness network directly linked 
to tailored defensive systems capable of defeating threats ranging from 
high-altitude ballistic missiles to lower-flying air-breathing threats, 
including cruise missiles and unmanned aerial systems. These systems 
threaten all of North America, and the commands are working closely 
with Canadian allies to ensure a fully integrated approach to 
continental defense.
    As the foundational dome, improved domain awareness from the 
seafloor to space remains the most critical priority for deterring and 
defeating missile threats to the Homeland. USNORTHCOM and NORAD are 
working closely with the U.S. Air Force, which has been tasked as the 
executive agent for air-and cruise-missile defense of the homeland to 
identify potential solutions to domain awareness challenges. It is 
vital that the domain awareness network provide the ability to detect, 
discriminate, and deliver crucial real-time information and a single 
common operational picture to leaders at all appropriate levels. 
Command modernization initiatives, including the establishment of a 
layered system of sensors such as space-based Airborne Moving Target 
Indicator (AMTI), Over-the-Horizon Radar (OTHR), the E-7 Wedgetail, and 
Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS), remain critical to 
continental defense in order to detect, track, and prosecute adversary 
submarines, aircraft and surface vessels, as well as inbound missiles.
    In the next tier, USNORTHCOM will continue to defend the United 
States--to include Alaska and Hawaii--attacks from ballistic missiles 
as well as emerging threat systems. In the near-term, the current 
United States ground-based midcourse defense system has a long record 
of success and remains fully capable of defending against a potential 
DPRK missile attack. However the DPRK's demonstration of larger and 
more capable ICBM technology will require a corresponding increase in 
United States BMD capability beyond planned inventories. The on-time 
fielding of the Next-Generation Interceptor (NGI) remains a major 
USNORTHCOM priority, and I am working closely with the Missile Defense 
Agency and the Department to ensure that program remains on track. 
Looking forward, the United States and Canada must develop the 
capability to detect, track, and defeat emerging adversary systems, to 
include ICBMs armed with multiple independently targetable reentry 
vehicles (MIRVs), hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs), and fractional 
orbital bombardment systems (FOBS).
    The final tier will defend against air-breathing threats, to 
include unmanned aerial systems, threat aircraft, advanced land-attack 
cruise missiles, and hypersonic cruise missiles designed to challenge 
U.S. Homeland defense systems from lower altitudes. To ensure 
effectiveness, the three nodes must be resilient, interconnected, and 
tailored to defeat specific threats, and developing these defenses and 
associated policy guidance that reflect the complex strategic 
environment and the reality of a homeland at risk will be critical in 
the coming years. I have every confidence in our collective ability to 
overcome these challenges and remain fully committed to collaboration 
with the Department, international allies, industry partners, and this 
Committee in pursuit of that critical goal.
                      operation noble eagle (one)
    While some of the capabilities required for comprehensive air and 
missile defense of the homeland remain in development, Operation NOBLE 
EAGLE (ONE) and NORAD's aerospace control mission have secured North 
American airspace for decades, adapting constantly to ever-evolving 
threats including Russian--and now PRC--bombers, violent extremist 
threats to civilian aviation, and advanced cruise missiles launched 
from the air and sea. NORAD's ability to adapt to and outpace emerging 
challenges is a cornerstone of the command's longstanding reputation as 
a pillar of continental defense.
    The threats to North American airspace have steadily grown more 
complex, and now include a spectrum of competitor capabilities that 
range from modernized long-range bombers and hypersonic cruise missiles 
down to small unmanned systems that can fit into a backpack. While two 
decades of whole-of-government response have reduced the threat of 
terrorist threats to civil aircraft, NORAD maintains the ability to 
deter and defeat nation-State threats from every avenue of approach to 
North America while safeguarding national leaders from aerial threats, 
both in the National Capital Region and around the country.
    Given the evolving security environment and robust mitigation 
efforts carried out by interagency partners, NORAD, in cooperation with 
the Department and the National Guard Bureau, will make specific 
changes to ``just in case'' aerospace control alert forces (ACA-1) this 
year and is conducting ongoing analysis of ``just in time'' flexible 
response capabilities (ACA-2). Such adjustments will allow NORAD to 
optimize protection of prioritized Defense Critical Infrastructure 
while maintaining adequate national response capability in support of 
civilian air traffic. In turn, the Air Force and the Air National Guard 
will be able to generate greater readiness against high-end threats 
though enhanced campaigning and training while remaining available to 
NORAD when indications and warning triggers are met.
    I am grateful to the Committee for your support for these key 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD priorities, as we work to identify effective and 
affordable capabilities that will meet this important challenge now and 
well into the future. The same can be said of our Canadian partners, as 
the Government of Canada has committed to fielding long-range sensors 
and weapons system to deter and defeat potential air, sea, and missile 
threats in the approaches to North America. Integration and 
collaboration with Canada--through NORAD and in broader continental 
defense initiatives--will grow even more necessary as our competitor 
field greater numbers of increasingly advanced long-range cruise 
missiles.
Countering Unmanned Aerial Systems
    There is perhaps no better example of the rapidly evolving 
strategic environment than the emergence of small unmanned aerial 
systems (sUAS) as a threat to infrastructure and personnel in the 
homeland. The availability and utility of small drones has grown 
exponentially over the last decade, and some have repeatedly employed 
these systems for illicit purposes. While U.S. and coalition forces 
overseas have faced the threat of weaponized unmanned systems for 
years, small drones have emerged as a significant risk to 
infrastructure and safety in the United States in a relatively short 
period of time. The widespread availability of small drones, coupled 
with a complicated regulatory structure and limitations on UAS 
countermeasures based on concerns for flight safety and privacy, has 
created significant vulnerabilities that have been exploited by known 
and unknown actors.
    There have been multiple incursions by UAS over military 
installations in the United States over the past year. To mitigate the 
potential threats to safety and security presented by UAS overflight of 
DOD facilities, USNORTHCOM and NORAD, in close coordination with the 
military Services and DOD, resourced equipment and analytic tools to 
installation commanders to assist with detection, tracking, and 
mitigation of potential UAS threats. In November 2024, then-Secretary 
of Defense Austin directed USNORTHCOM to serve as the synchronizer, 
integrator, and/or coordinator of domestic counter-small UAS (C-sUAS) 
activities within the continental United States and Alaska for DOD and, 
when requested and approved, for the interagency. USNORTHCOM will play 
a critical role in an enduring whole-of-government effort to protect 
people, infrastructure, aircraft, and facilities from malign sUAS 
incursions. This effort will require investment in robust and evolving 
mitigation technologies suitable for use in the United States, 
alignment with interagency and industry partners, and policy and 
statutory changes that balance safety, privacy, and defensive 
requirements.
    In October 2024, USNORTHCOM and NORAD were proud to host 
Demonstration FALCON PEAK 25.1, which brought together DOD, 
interagency, and industry partners seeking to demonstrate counter-sUAS 
sensors and defeat mechanisms. Thanks to extraordinary support from the 
U.S. Army's 4th Infantry Division, 10th Special Forces Group 
(Airborne), the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the Colorado 
National Guard, and many others, demonstration participants tracked and 
engaged live sUAS targets in complex, realistic scenarios over a number 
of days and nights within military Special Use Airspace. The 
demonstration provided important insights that the Commands and our 
partners will continue to build on, including during FALCON PEAK 25.2, 
which will include a larger slate of vendors, participants, and systems 
in August 2025, meeting FY25 National Defense Authorization Act 
direction.
    In recognition of the sUAS threat and the Commands' increased 
responsibilities, USNORTHCOM and NORAD have shifted resources and 
personnel to establish a C-UAS operations branch within our 
headquarters. This Committee has long been aware of the potential 
threat presented by sUAS, and I would like to extend my appreciation 
for your ongoing support for C-UAS research and acquisitions. That 
support will remain critical as success in the homeland C-sUAS mission 
will depend on improved C-UAS technology, interagency collaboration, 
and corresponding authorities and resourcing for the mission to defend 
against this significant risk to safety and security.
Cyber Domain Roles and Responses
    Threats to civil and military infrastructure are a direct and 
constant concern for USNORTHCOM and NORAD. While not directly 
responsible for the defense of non-USNORTHCOM networks, cyberattacks 
against United States and Canadian infrastructure carry the potential 
to negatively impact DOD force projection and could require significant 
defense support to civil authorities to mitigate the consequences of a 
damaging cyberattack against transportation, energy, or economic 
networks.
    Any direct action against the United States by a major competitor 
would almost certainly involve cyberattacks against strategic North 
American infrastructure, and USNORTHCOM collaborates daily with U.S. 
Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM), the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure 
Security Agency (CISA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and 
any number of other intergovernmental partners to deter, defend, and--
if necessary--respond to cyberattacks.
Defense Operations in the Arctic
    Defending North America is inherently linked to the ability of the 
Joint Force to operate effectively across the entire USNORTHCOM area of 
responsibility--to include the Arctic. Russia is expanding its 
capability and capacity to conduct military operations in the Arctic, 
seeking to control access to northern sea lanes and threaten North 
America from the northern approaches. In 2024, Russian and PRC aircraft 
and surface vessels conducted joint patrols in the Bering Sea, while 
the PRC repeatedly deployed dual-purpose vessels into the Arctic as 
part of a longstanding effort to expand the ability of the People's 
Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) to conduct multi-domain operations in the 
high north.
    Arctic responsibilities are shared across multiple geographic and 
functional combatant commands, and as competition in the region 
increases, safeguarding Arctic access and freedom of maneuver will 
depend on Joint Force Arctic operational capabilities and build on the 
already strong ties between Arctic partners. USNORTHCOM places enormous 
value on the ability to conduct operations and exercises in the high 
north and to execute assigned missions in coordination with fellow 
combatant commands.
    The annual ARCTIC EDGE exercise is a key example of a USNORTHCOM 
event that evaluates combatant command planning, communications, and 
operational oversight while simultaneously providing warfighters and 
enablers with valuable operational experience as they test the people, 
equipment, and logistics trains needed to execute their missions in 
remote and austere locations. Regular exercises and real-world 
operations in the Arctic remain critically important and generate 
valuable lessons learned for participants from the combatant command 
and components headquarters down to the operational and tactical 
levels. Effective operations in the Arctic require specialized training 
and equipment under the best of conditions, and there is no substitute 
for real-world experience in the region. USNORTHCOM and NORAD will 
continue to advocate for designated Arctic units that are specifically 
trained and equipped to execute their assigned missions in all 
conditions.
    As inter-reliance between allies and partners grows increasingly 
vital to ensuring a secure and open Arctic, USNORTHCOM and NORAD gain 
strength and capability from our military partnerships. In particular, 
the Canadian Armed Forces' expertise in Arctic operations and the 
Government of Canada's longstanding commitment to Arctic security are 
of enormous value to continental defense. Canada's Arctic Foreign 
Policy (CAFP), announced in December 2024, clearly recognizes the 
significance of Russia-PRC collaboration in the Arctic as well as the 
vast importance of the North American Arctic to both the United States 
and Canada.
    This policy will directly support NORAD through international 
diplomatic engagement and a series of important Canadian defense 
investments that will strengthen shared continental defense 
capabilities. The extraordinary value of the United States-Canadian 
defense relationship has proven itself time and again over the course 
of six decades, and I have every confidence that the the strategic 
vision and commitment to North American defense articulated in the 
CAFP, when resourced, will pay dividends for the defense of North 
America for many years to come.
              security cooperation with regional partners
    USNORTHCOM's regional security cooperation relationships remain a 
critical element of the command's missions. USNORTHCOM's military 
partnerships with Canada, Mexico, and The Bahamas enhance our own 
homeland defense while building the capacity of those partners to 
operate and communicate with United States Forces. Those relationships 
are vital to countering competitor influence and presence in the 
Western Hemisphere while improving intelligence sharing, border 
security, and domain awareness.
    Decades of information sharing, combined exercises, and routine 
direct engagement between USNORTHCOM senior leaders and our Canadian, 
Mexican, and Bahamian military counterparts has brought North American 
defense cooperation to a historic high point. The bilateral and 
multilateral ties between our militaries will be of critical importance 
over the next 18 months as the United States, Mexico, and Canada 
prepare to host the FIFA World Cup in the summer of 2026. USNORTHCOM's 
capacity to synchronize interagency and international partners will be 
crucial to ensuring the safety and security of this quadrennial global 
tournament. That work--which will involve dozens of military, 
intelligence community, and law-enforcement partners from all three 
host nations--is already well underway and will grow in scope and scale 
through the end of the competition.
    In the meantime, USNORTHCOM's routine engagements and exercises 
with our regional partners have produced operational capability with 
direct benefits for the defense of North America. In 2024, as a Russian 
Navy surface action group (SAG) transited the Atlantic Ocean, 
USNORTHCOM, NORAD, the Canadian Armed Forces, United States European 
Command, and United States Southern Command maintained constant common 
situational awareness of the SAG's location, while executing seamless 
operations across multiple international and combatant command 
boundaries. The execution of this mission was the direct result of the 
close ties between USNORTHCOM and our international and cross-command 
partners and demonstrated a degree of commonality and interoperability 
that our competitors are years from being able to match.
    Building our partners' ability to operate with U.S. Forces has led 
directly to improved regional domain awareness, information sharing, 
and cooperation against shared security challenges, especially given 
the efforts of peer competitors to gain influence with the United 
States' nearest neighbors. USNORTHCOM's dedicated efforts to support 
our partners' defense requirements over the years have played an 
important role in maintaining the United States as the clear partner of 
choice while simultaneously improving our partners' capability and 
capacity for addressing internal security challenges. USNORTHCOM 
remains committed to these essential relationships.
              defense support of civil authorities (dsca)
    USNORTHCOM's support to civilian Federal agencies in times of need 
stands as the command's most visible mission to American citizens. 
Operating in support of a lead Federal agency, USNORTHCOM leverages the 
command's expertise in planning, synchronization, and operations to 
prepare for, assess, respond to, and recover from domestic incidents. 
In 2024, USNORTHCOM provided air assets and ground forces to fight 
major wildfires in the western United States, to include the recent 
fires in Los Angeles; delivered relief to Americans in need following 
major hurricanes and flooding along the Atlantic coast; supported 
Federal law enforcement in securing National Special Security Events 
(NSSE); reinforced Federal counter-drug efforts, and augmented USCBP 
border operations.
    USNORTHCOM is proud to support each Federal partner, and delivering 
relief to American citizens exercises the same planning, operations, 
and communications mechanisms required to conduct homeland defense 
operations during periods of crisis and conflict. Drawing on the 
Command's expertise, specialized capabilities, and robust interagency 
networks, USNORTHCOM supports the vital missions of U.S. Federal law 
enforcement partners as they safeguard U.S. borders and citizens by 
leveraging the command's specialized intelligence collection 
capabilities abroad.
    Those capabilities also allow USNORTHCOM to play an increasing role 
in illuminating the illicit networks used by criminal cartels to move 
money, human traffic, and illegal drugs. The narcotics smuggled into 
the United States by transnational criminal organizations are directly 
responsible for tens of thousands of deaths each year, and USNORTHCOM 
welcomes the opportunity to assist partners in reducing the flow of 
illicit drugs into the United States.
    In the aftermath of the catastrophic flooding that struck eastern 
North Carolina in October 2024, USNORTHCOM supported the Federal 
Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) with ground forces and aviation 
assets for search and rescue, delivery of relief supplies, route 
clearance, and other key missions that directly assisted residents of 
the affected areas. I want to specifically recognize the extraordinary 
response of leaders and Soldiers from the U.S. Army's XVIII Airborne 
Corps, to include units from the 101st Airborne Division and the 82d 
Airborne Division. Thanks to their readiness, skill, and devotion to 
their mission, every USNORTHCOM request for forces was executed well 
ahead of required timelines and enabled an extraordinary response to a 
historic disaster. While there were certainly lessons learned for an 
even more effective response in future contingencies, I am extremely 
proud of the work done by USNORTHCOM, U.S. Army North and the deployed 
U.S. Army units whose incredible efforts helped so many Americans in 
need.
    A similar level of support from across the Department enabled 
USNORTHCOM to augment U.S. Secret Service (USSS) protection of the 
major Presidential and vice-Presidential candidates during the last 
several months of the 2024 Presidential campaign. In response to a USSS 
request for assistance following the attempted assassination of 
President Trump, USNORTHCOM, in concert with the Joint Staff and the 
military Services, provided explosive ordinance technicians, military 
working dog teams, and rotary-wing assets to ensure the safety and 
security of the candidates at nearly 200 locations. Successfully 
deploying dozens of highly specialized security teams to hundreds of 
event sites was a testament to the professional planners and operators 
involved with the mission, and I am proud of USNORTHCOM's support for 
this critical effort.
                               conclusion
    I am honored and privileged to lead the men and women of USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD. I thank our service members and civilian employees for their 
efforts while executing our noble mission of defending the United 
States and Canada as both commands continue to expand our bi-national, 
whole-of-government, continental approach to homeland defense. I 
appreciate the critical role Congress plays in ensuring our service 
members remain ready to defend our homeland now and in the future, and 
I look forward to continued collaboration with all of our critical 
partners in defending our great nations.
                      We Have the Watch

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General. General Collins, 
welcome.

    STATEMENT OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL HEATH A. COLLINS, USAF, 
                DIRECTOR, MISSILE DEFENSE AGENCY

    General Collins. Thank you, ma'am. Good afternoon, Chair 
Fischer, Ranking Member King, distinguished Members of the 
Subcommittee. Thank you for this opportunity to talk about the 
Missile Defense Agency portfolio.
    MDA is moving quickly to provide effective defenses against 
a dangerous missile threat to defend the U.S. Homeland, our 
deployed forces, and our allies and friends. The agency is 
transforming itself, its enterprise, and its industry base in 
order to develop and deliver capabilities to the warfighter, at 
scale and speed.
    As we move with urgency to deliver the next-generation 
missile defense system, we intend to leverage the performance 
efficiencies found at integrated layered defenses. We also will 
continue to integrate and improve the space domain to support a 
missile defense posture that is more effective, resilient, and 
adaptable, to known and unanticipated threats.
    MDA's focus is on the improvement and sustainment of U.S. 
Homeland and regional defenses. We are enhancing the 
performance and capability of the fielded, Ground-based 
Midcourse Defense system along with development and testing of 
the Next-Generation Interceptor. We are working with the Navy 
to improve the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) capability 
and enhance hypersonic defenses, and with the Army to make 
investments in the future development of the Terminal High 
Altitude Area Defense system, THAAD.
    Together in support of the Nation's missile defense 
enterprise and Golden Dome for America, MDA remains focused on 
delivering advanced, reliable, and resilient capabilities on 
accelerated timelines to meet the warfighter's needs.
    I greatly appreciate your continued support for MDA and for 
the missile defense mission, and I look forward to answering 
your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of General Collins follows:]

       Prepared Statement by Lieutenant General Heath A. Collins
    Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and distinguished Members 
of the Subcommittee, it is an honor to appear before you today to 
discuss the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) portfolio.
    MDA is moving fast to provide effective defenses for the protection 
of the U.S. Homeland, deployed forces, and our allies and friends. We 
are focused on delivering advanced, reliable, resilient capabilities on 
accelerated timelines to meet Warfighter needs. Today, MDA is 
transforming itself, its enterprise, and its industry base to employ 
modern digital frameworks, models, and tools that improve decision 
advantage in order to field capabilities to the Warfighter at speed and 
scale. MDA is also engaging non-traditional companies with their 
innovative tools and approaches to tackle complex design and 
integration challenges. These efforts will reduce lead times and 
increasing transparency, agility, and efficiency to enable the MDA 
workforce to focus on delivering next generation missile defense 
capabilities.
    Over the past decade, adversaries have significantly advanced their 
ability to strike the homeland and field more sophisticated long-range 
weapons, including new ballistic, cruise, and hypersonic missiles. 
China is at varying stages of developing nuclear-armed Intercontinental 
Ballistic Missile (ICBM)-class hypersonic glide vehicles (HGV), orbital 
weapons, and even conventionally armed long-range missiles designed to 
strike the Continental United States (CONUS) without crossing the 
nuclear threshold. Russia has improved its already formidable 
capability to threaten CONUS and recently fielded the world's first 
HGV-equipped ICBM. Moscow continues to develop and test other novel 
nuclear delivery platforms like the Sarmat heavy ICBM and the 
Burevestnik nuclear-powered cruise missile. Russian bombers and naval 
combatants have resumed deterrence patrols that place their cruise 
missiles in range of the homeland. North Korea is advancing its 
strategic weapons program. In October 2024, Pyongyang tested the new 
Hwasong-19 ICBM that can probably deliver a nuclear payload to points 
across North America. Iran is growing its nuclear and space launch 
programs to provide a viable pathway for developing a nuclear-armed 
ICBM, should Tehran decide to do so.
        layering and integration critical to system performance
    Layering defenses is critical to improving the performance of any 
missile defense system. A network of geographically dispersed sensors 
and diverse weapon systems allows the system to engage inbound threats 
at varying times in the missile's flight to improve overall defense 
effectiveness. There are system performance benefits to having 
engagement capabilities in different geographic domains and the ability 
to layer engagements, to include increasing the probability of a 
successful intercept.
    An examination of the defense of Israel from real world missile 
attacks over the past 17 months provides a look at the performance 
efficiencies integrated layered defenses make possible. In 2024, Iran 
conducted two large-scale aerial and missile attacks on Israel. Israeli 
missile defenses and the United States Missile Defense System 
demonstrated combat-proven interoperability by detecting, tracking, and 
engaging the most complex, dense, and stressing ballistic missile 
attacks in history, saving countless Israeli and American lives. These 
same United States and Israeli assets have successfully defended Israel 
against dozens of missiles launched from Yemen by the Houthis.
    Working together with Israeli missile defense systems, Aegis BMD 
and Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) have performed 
exceptionally well, contributing to the highly successful protection of 
Israel as well as United States and international military forces and 
the civilian population. Aegis BMD demonstrated operational capability 
outside its design requirements. Standard Missile (SM)-3 Block IA and 
Block IB missiles demonstrated high reliability and excess capabilities 
in these operations. SM-6 missiles fired in Sea-Based Terminal mode 
demonstrated high reliability and effectiveness. We have been working 
closely during this period with the Navy to deliver missile software 
upgrades and Aegis weapon system upgrades to improve defenses. 
Additionally, the U.S. Army deployed THAAD to Israel in October 2024 
and has since conducted the first U.S. engagement with the weapon 
system. The system has performed very well with regional partners in 
defensive operations demonstrating the maturity, reliability, and 
effectiveness of the THAAD system, fully integrated and layered with 
the Israeli missile defense systems. During these operations, we 
learned much about the effectiveness of our sensors, weapons, command 
and control systems and the tactics, techniques and procedures to 
employ them effectively, validating the need for layered missile 
defenses. The exo-and endo-atmospheric layers across multiple systems 
proved vital in reducing the engagement burden on lower tier systems, 
prevented damage to critical defended assets, and ultimately saved 
lives.
    A missile defense system is only as effective as its ability to 
command and control all integrated elements. The Command and Control, 
Battle Management and Communications (C2BMC) system proved its value in 
integrating real-world combat operations. C2BMC provides global 
communications, command and control and is a force multiplier that 
brings different sensors and shooters together so that systems not 
designed to work together can share data and engage threats they 
otherwise would not have been able to see. In the Middle East, C2BMC 
enabled remote engagements by both Aegis and Israeli systems, 
correlated and combined overhead and terrestrial sensor data, extended 
engagement ranges far beyond internal weapon system radars resulting in 
improved system level performance.
    As part of a future layered defense construct within the Missile 
Defense System, we will buildupon C2BMC to deploy a more scalable, 
operational open architecture to increase data processing capabilities, 
improve missile defense system performance, and enable situational 
awareness for senior commanders and battle management and command and 
control for operational warfighters throughout a mass raid situation. 
C2BMC will also expand the existing, globally deployed network to 
integrate more sensors and shooters and provide secure, physical 
communication data links for all new sites.
    There is a growing Warfighter demand for enhanced joint force 
capabilities to combat threats across the continuum of air, cruise, 
ballistic and hypersonic missiles. MDA, as the Integrated Air and 
Missile Defense (IAMD) Technical Authority, is engineering and 
prototyping the Joint Tactical Integrated Fire Control (JTIFC) 
architecture focusing on multi-domain, cross-Service kill chains, 
enabling true ``right sensor, right shooter'' capability to counter 
emerging threats. JTIFC enhances integrated fire control capabilities 
across the Services and agencies by essentially ``connecting'' existing 
sensors, command and control systems, and weapons at the tactical 
level.
    JTIFC efforts include MDA's Joint Track Management Capability 
(JTMC) Bridge, which is designed to connect Army, Navy, Marine Corps, 
and Air Force weapons, sensors, and fire control networks into a Joint 
Integrated Fire Control Network. The JTMC Bridge is on a path to field 
with the Army Integrated Battle Command System (IBCS), Navy Cooperative 
Engagement Capability (CEC), and Air Force Tactical Operations Center--
Light (TOC-L) Programs of Record in 2027 to 2028.
    This JTIFC architecture has been demonstrated at multiple Combatant 
Command and Service exercises, to include the successful intercept of a 
cruise missile during Army Flight Test 6 in 2021. Recurring Service 
exercises include the Army's annual Project Convergence (Capstone 5 
upcoming), U.S. Indo-Pacific Command's biennial Valiant Shield and 
Operation Sling Stone, and U.S. Northern Command's Northern Edge. 
Future JTIFC capabilities to be engineered and planned for delivery to 
the Services' programs include the fusion of combat identification 
features from all sensors, force level engagement coordination, and 
distributed electronic protection capabilities. The Guam Defense System 
builds on the JTIFC core architecture and future capabilities, ensuring 
joint weapons and sensors are integrated for layered area defense. 
Recognizing that a more effective force is integrated and interoperable 
with allies and partners, JTIFC can enable cross-Nation kill chains in 
support of evolving warfighting concepts and security partnerships.
                space is vital to future missile defense
    We must continue to integrate and leverage the space domain as we 
sharpen our focus today to develop and deliver the next generation 
missile defense system. The exploitation of space supports a missile 
defense posture that is more effective, resilient, and adaptable to 
known and unanticipated threats. The proximity, persistence, and 
precision of space-based missile defense assets offers a truly 
transformative capability.
    To ensure rapid gap coverage, MDA has developed prototypes designed 
with Warfighter capabilities in mind. The MDA Hypersonic and Ballistic 
Tracking Space Sensor (HBTSS) program, for example, is helping to close 
the gap by supporting detection and tracking of hypersonic weapons and 
providing multi-domain support to the Overhead Persistent Infrared 
(OPIR) enterprise architecture. HBTSS, which provides fire control 
quality data to support engagements, is proving to be a critical 
element of our future hypersonic kill chain. Currently, HBTSS has 
collected over half a million images, to include data collected from 
test targets, targets of opportunity, and real-world events. 
Additionally, the HBTSS program has made remarkable development 
achievements. It implemented a new enterprise ground system in just 36 
months; rapidly designed and built two satellites within 36 months; 
conducted the first accelerated National Security Space Launch within 
12 months in collaboration with the Space Force; and participated in 
its first test within 119 days of launch. MDA will continue to grow its 
collaboration with the Space Force to develop and deliver this vital 
capability to the future Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture.
    Following an extremely successful HBTSS program, we are pursuing 
the same approach in developing the Discriminating Space Sensor (DSS) 
to perform birth-to-death tracking and discrimination of in-flight 
ballistic missiles and their payload objects. MDA will launch a DSS 
prototype satellite in 2029, followed by on-orbit test and 
demonstration of DSS capabilities to inform future space-based 
architecture and design requirements. The DSS prototype will 
demonstrate the technology required to track ballistic missiles from 
space birth to death while discriminating lethal objects from non-
lethal objects, with the final operational DSS system design to be 
decided by the Space Force. MDA will expand the demonstration of 
critical DSS capabilities to provide the United States an interim 
capability to defend against ballistic and other advanced missile 
threats from peer, near-peer, and rogue adversaries.
    Finally, President Trump's January 27, 2025 Executive Order 
highlighted the need to develop cutting-edge, next generation, kinetic 
and non-kinetic capabilities that will include a focus on the 
development of space-based interceptors (SBI) capable of boost phase 
defense. A space engagement layer would complement land-and sea-based 
defenses. MDA stands ready to work closely with the Space Force and 
other stakeholders on the development and delivery of the SBI 
architecture. From a missile defense architect and developer 
perspective, a space-based missile defense layer would offer numerous 
benefits, including a persistent on-call global presence, which would 
reduce the risks associated with hostile missiles launched with little 
or no notice from different regions around the world.
        leveraging advanced technologies for future capabilities
    MDA is rapidly developing, demonstrating, and transitioning 
disruptive missile defeat capabilities to deter, degrade, and destroy 
adversary threats. MDA is using the rapid development of prototypes to 
develop and demonstrate disruptive, ``game-changing'' capabilities, 
with incremental capability off-ramps to the Warfighter. We recently 
unveiled a new framework to streamline the acquisition of missile 
defense technologies. One significant part of this framework is the use 
of a Multiple Authority Announcement (MAA), which consolidates a broad 
range of procurement authorities and methods, such as Other 
Transactions, Commercial Solution Openings, Procurement for 
Experimental Purposes, Cooperative Research and Development Agreements, 
grants, and research and development agreements. The MAA, which was 
released last month, is an acquisition approach gear toward reaching 
non-traditional defense contractors. However, it does not prevent 
traditional defense contractors from participating when they have 
solutions that could potentially meet the Government's needs. The MAA 
seeks responses from a broad set of innovative technology companies to 
develop capabilities that allow MDA to better manage complex design and 
integration challenges and accelerate critical decisionmaking. The 
combination of a competitive environment with simplified procurement 
processes and continued leverage of MDA's unique acquisition 
authorities will strengthen our ability to accelerate overall timelines 
and deliver operational capability to the Warfighter.
    The Agency is developing a multi-layered defensive architecture to 
counter hypersonic threats in defense of the homeland. This 
architecture leverages advanced sensors for early warning, 
identification, and persistent tracking of hypersonic threats. MDA is 
analyzing several initiatives to address these threats, including: 
enhancing persistent tracking of unpredictable targets, improving 
communication systems, adapting fire control strategies, and developing 
new kinetic interceptors with exceptional agility in extreme 
aerothermal environments. Additionally, MDA is exploring non-kinetic 
solutions and payloads to effectively neutralize hypersonic threats.
    MDA is collaborating across the DOD Special Projects enterprise to 
synergize resources and leverage residual missile defense capabilities. 
Our advanced Modeling, Simulation, and Analysis laboratory provides 
element-and component-level performance assessment up to mission-level 
analysis at all levels of classification. The lab is on a growth path 
to federate the models across the DOD, providing an integrated approach 
to missile defeat.
    MDA is prioritizing the integration of Directed Energy (DE) systems 
into the Missile Defense System, which would reduce the burden on 
kinetic interceptors and augment existing capabilities. In 2024, the 
Directed Energy Independent Assessment Team recommended MDA reestablish 
efforts to develop and deploy DE systems. MDA also initiated work on a 
phased, long-range detect and track rapid prototype, coupled with a 
kill laser. Conceptually, a High Energy Laser can thin out the number 
of objects in an attack, lower the cost per kill, and provide a nearly 
unlimited magazine. MDA is on a path to demonstrate progressively 
higher High Energy Laser power levels, with incremental capability off-
ramps to Service partners on the path to an objective capability. MDA 
also supports a joint DOD effort to determine the effectiveness of High 
Energy Laser weapon systems against a series of dynamic targets. In 
2024-2025, the Probability of Weapons Effectiveness Experiment 
successfully engaged and negated a series of dynamic targets in 
crossing and head-on profiles. Finally, High Energy Laser for Regional 
Airborne Defense (HELRAD) explores the application space for state-of-
the-art directed energy systems as they apply to future MDA 
architectures, identifying opportunities for MDA's future DE programs. 
MDA will continue to partner across the DOD and Intelligence Community 
to ensure a seamless left-through-right-of-launch integration effort in 
defeating missile threats.
                            homeland defense
    For homeland defense, MDA continues to improve performance of the 
fielded Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system, which recently 
celebrated its 20 year anniversary of 24/7 defense of the homeland. In 
2025, we will deploy capability to increase battle-space via a change 
to the Ground Based Interceptor (GBI) that enables firing only two of 
the three solid rocket motors along with discrimination improvements to 
improve overall system performance against more complex threats with 
countermeasures. Additionally, MDA is continuing development and 
testing of the Next Generation Interceptor (NGI), which is the future 
replacement for the GBI fleet. The NGI's modular design will facilitate 
upgrades to address evolving threats and provide a substantial increase 
in firepower given the multiple kill vehicles on board. Additionally, 
NGI will provide a reduced cost-per-kill through its increased 
efficiency, reliability, and availability, providing greater magazine 
depth.
    We received authority to proceed into the Product Development Phase 
with the NGI program in September 2024 and have enjoyed many successes 
thus far in this new phase of development. However, there are some 
challenges we are addressing given the complexity of the NGI weapon 
system. Beyond the expected design challenges, we have experienced 
unanticipated programmatic, technical, and producibility challenges 
that are driving increases to the estimated development and deployment 
schedule. The earlier-than-planned down-select in April 2024 had a 
significant impact on NGI's supply chain. Upon learning of the early 
down-select, NGI suppliers moved quickly to limit fiscal exposure and, 
in some instances, stopped development work on critical NGI components 
while waiting for the final down-select decision. The combination of 
these supply chain impacts along with post-COVID-induced inflation have 
adversely impacted the program. In addition, we have experienced 
significant development and manufacturing challenges with the solid 
rocket motor cases to be used in qualification testing. Solid rocket 
motors are on the critical path to executing the first flight test of 
the NGI. These development and supply chain challenges required us to 
develop a comprehensive NGI re-plan schedule. The result is key 
milestones have shifted to the right.
    Despite these challenges, the NGI program continues to move forward 
while still enforcing technical rigor and a ``fly before you buy'' 
approach to deliver this critically important capability. The NGI 
program will execute an All Up Round Critical Design Review in first 
quarter fiscal year 2027 on the way to completing two rigorous flight 
tests in fiscal year 2029. This will provide USNORTHCOM with an 
opportunity to declare an Initial Operational Capability no later than 
fiscal year 2030. To demonstrate confidence and to reduce program risk, 
MDA is exploring options for a flight test demonstration in 2028.
    Concurrent with NGI development, MDA is upgrading the legacy 
fielded homeland defense system ground components supporting the GBI 
fleet to ensure seamless NGI compatibility to address the evolving 
threat. The ground weapon system monitors the health and status of 
interceptors, conducts pre-launch activities, performs engagement 
planning, tasks interceptors at launch, provides in-flight updates to 
the interceptor, and ensures communication connectivity between all of 
the launch sites and ground-based sensors. We have synchronized the 
ground weapon system development schedule with the NGI re-plan 
schedule. Together, these two programs have an executable path forward 
to provide USNORTHCOM with improved capability and capacity against the 
2030+ advanced peer, near-peer, and rogue nation threats.
    From a sensor perspective, MDA added Long Range Discrimination 
Radar (LRDR) for Space Domain Awareness in December 2024. LRDR is 
currently preparing for an operational flight test, Flight Test Other 
(FTX)-26a, in the third quarter of fiscal year 2025. LRDR will use an 
updated software build to improve discrimination performance against 
additional threats while adding hypersonic defense tracking capability. 
MDA is partnering with Space Force, USNORTHCOM, and U.S. Space Command 
(USSPACECOM) to accelerate fielding these LRDR capability improvements. 
MDA plans to complete the LRDR transition and transfer process with the 
Space Force in 2025.
    Finally, we will deliver a new C2BMC capability to USNORTHCOM and 
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) in summer 2025, including 
faster user interface responsiveness and improvements allowing 
USNORTHCOM to receive GMD real-time fire control options, improving 
USNORTHCOM Commander decision-space timing. In fiscal year 2026, we 
plan to upgrade space track processing timelines, improving defense 
against large raids and reporting on hypersonic threats to potential 
missile defense shooters.
                            regional defense
    Globally deployed sea-based and land-based Aegis BMD capabilities 
are critical to the Nation's defense of our deployed forces, allies, 
and partners against a wide variety of short-, medium-, and 
intermediate-range missile threats. MDA continues to design 
improvements to the Aegis BMD capability, improving Sea Based Terminal 
(SBT) defense, advancing weapon system and missile reliability, and 
enhancing Aegis BMD engagement capacity and lethality. We will continue 
to develop Aegis BMD weapon system software to enhance functionality 
and leverage more-capable radars and National Technical Means.
    Aegis Baseline 9.2.4 (with BMD 5.1.5) is still on track to meet 
certification in third quarter fiscal year 2025. Once certified, this 
baseline is expected to deploy to 14 U.S. Navy ships. BMD 5.1.5 adds 
capability for Sea-Based Terminal Increment 3, increased ballistic and 
hypersonic threat space, expanded hypersonic tracking and Link 16 
reporting, enhanced space domain awareness, and discrimination 
architecture improvements. MDA is on track to meet our SM-3 Blk IB and 
IIA deliveries for FY2025, having completed 54 new production 
deliveries and 35 recertifications across all variants.
    MDA has received supplemental funding in both fiscal year 2024 and 
fiscal year 2025 to procure replacement missiles for those expended in 
combat operations, as well as an increase in fiscal year 2025 funding 
to continue production of SM-3 Block IB missiles. MDA is proactively 
working to minimize and mitigate expected SM-3 Block IB production gaps 
while the Prime contractor works to complete its proposal in support of 
a synergy buy. With fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 funds, MDA is 
moving forward to award this contract for procurement of SM-3 Block IB 
missiles by the end of calendar year 2025.
    MDA is committed to developing a layered defense against rapidly 
evolving threats, with a particular focus on countering regional 
hypersonic missiles. Today, Aegis BMD ships are equipped with SBT 
capability, which is tested, certified, and deployed, including an 
initial defensive capability against hypersonic threats. MDA has been 
working closely with the Navy to develop field and upgrade SBT defenses 
to counter advanced threats. With the successful Flight Test Aegis 
Weapon System (FTM)-32 in March 2024 and the FTX-40 successful 
demonstration this past March, we moved another step closer to making 
SBT Increment 3 an operational capability, improving our capability 
against some hypersonic threats.
    The Glide Phase Intercept (GPI) development program represents a 
key element in defeating the rapidly evolving hypersonic threat of the 
layered defense strategy. GPI will expand the area defensible against 
these threats and account for expected future developments by our 
adversaries. Developing and fielding GPI capability is essential to 
countering not only the hypersonic threats we face today but also those 
anticipated in 2035 and beyond. MDA's plan for GPI development meets a 
critical need for the warfighter and can be leveraged to deliver this 
capability in defense of the homeland and can be accelerated with 
adequate resources. Additionally, we are seeking a layered approach 
with other kinetic and non-kinetic effects to accelerate the defeat of 
the hypersonic threat as part of the MDA Hypersonic Defense Task Force.
    In May 2024, MDA and Japan Ministry of Defense (MoD) signed a 
formal Cooperative Development arrangement to jointly develop and 
mature the GPI. This strategic collaboration leverages Japan's world-
class expertise in key missile components, particularly in advanced 
propulsion and aerodynamic control technologies. Cooperative 
development of the GPI will deliver a critical capability to counter 
threats in the USINDOPACOM region for both Japan and the United States.
    As mentioned last year, previous Department priorities and funding 
decisions drove MDA to move forward with carrying out the prototype 
project with a single interceptor developer in September 2024, opposed 
to two, in contrast to our approved acquisition strategy. As a result, 
the program schedule moved right to 2035 and the overall programmatic 
risk is high. MDA is working diligently with our partner, Japan, and 
our industry partner to shore up the program and look for any 
opportunities to accelerate and burn down risk as soon as possible. In 
addition to GPI interceptor development, MDA continues to develop 
enhancements to the mature and capable Aegis Weapon System. These 
software-only enhancements will enable seamless integration of the GPI 
interceptor by leveraging existing Aegis capability to engage and kill 
threats based on remote sensor data.
    The Department is continuing development of a missile defense 
capability for the defense of Guam against diverse missile threats. In 
collaboration with the Navy, we are supporting the Army as they execute 
the USINDOPACOM requirement for a layered missile defense capability on 
Guam against simultaneous raids of cruise, ballistic, maneuvering, and 
hypersonic glide threats. MDA successfully conducted a live intercept 
in December 2024 of a ballistic missile target, marking the first BMD 
intercept test event executed from Guam. With Flight Test Experiment 
Aegis Weapon System (FEM)-02, the initial Aegis Guam System integrated 
with the new AN/TPY-6 radar and Vertical Launching System fired a SM-3 
Block IIA, which intercepted an air-launched MRBM target off the coast 
of Guam. The AN/TPY-6 radar tracked the target shortly after launch to 
intercept in the first end-to-end tracking use of the radar during a 
live ballistic missile flight test.
    The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) Weapon System has a 
proven track record of defeating incoming threats and serves as a vital 
component of our Nation's layered Missile Defense System. The THAAD 
Weapon System is a globally transportable, ground-based missile defense 
weapon system that is highly effective against short-, medium-and 
intermediate-range missile threats inside and outside the atmosphere in 
the terminal phase of flight. MDA supports and sustains THAAD batteries 
in CONUS as well as in the USINDOPACOM and U.S. Central Command 
(USCENTCOM) Areas of Responsibility.
    Through the end of second quarter fiscal year 2025, in conjunction 
with the Army, MDA completed fielding of the global THAAD System Build 
4.0 (TH 4.0) to five of seven batteries. The capabilities include 
enabling remote launch and enhancing integration of Patriot Missile 
Segment Enhanced (MSE) interceptors within a THAAD battery. These 
capabilities provide an increase in the defended area and greater 
engagement opportunities by allowing the Patriot MSE interceptors to 
leverage the highly effective THAAD AN/TPY-2 radar. Also, with close 
coordination to better support Commander USCENTCOM, MDA significantly 
reduced time required to provide warfighters a quick-look analysis 
following a THAAD Weapon System real-world event.
    Starting this quarter, MDA will begin delivering THAAD Battery 8, 
the first U.S. battery with THAAD Configuration 3.1 hardware and THAAD 
System Build 5.0 (TH 5.0) software. Configuration 3.1 is the largest 
hardware upgrade to-date modifying over 190 components to address 
obsolescence and increase cybersecurity to improve weapon system 
performance. System-level testing will start at the end of fiscal year 
2025. THAAD Battery 8 will execute a series of rigorous test events and 
demonstrations culminating in Flight Test THAAD Weapon system (FTT)-26 
in fiscal year 2027 and supporting the Army's fielding process. MDA 
plans to begin upgrade on the first of seven U.S. Batteries to 
Configuration 3.1 in the 2027 timeframe.
    MDA will leverage the recently awarded THAAD Evolutionary 
Development Task Order to continue developing the weapon system and 
deliver enhanced capabilities to the Warfighter within a more agile and 
responsive development process. THAAD System Build 6.0 (TH 6.0) and 
Integrated Battle Command System (IBCS) THAAD Integration (ITI), while 
experiencing a delayed start due to the incremental continuing 
resolutions and reduction in the appropriation, will be developed 
within this agile process. TH 6.0 provides initial capability against 
non-ballistic threats and increased threat engagement space.
    The Army Navy/Transportable Radar Surveillance and Control Model 2 
(AN/TPY-2) is a highly transportable multi-functional, high-resolution, 
phased-array ground-based X-Band sensor that is highly effective at 
acquiring targets in the boost, midcourse, and terminal phases. AN/TPY-
2 can be deployed in forward-based mode (FBM) or terminal mode (TM) 
configurations for THAAD fire control and engagement operations. FBM 
radars provide detection close to the threat origin as well as target 
acquisition and discrimination to the C2BMC interface to support 
external shooters to include: GBI, Aegis, THAAD, Patriot, and 
international systems. Currently AN/TPY-2 is deployed in both modes 
supporting operations in the USINDOPACOM, U.S. European Command, and 
USCENTCOM areas of responsibility.
                          allies and partners
    Close collaboration with our Allies and partners is critical for 
addressing today's security challenges. MDA actively and closely 
engages with multiple partners across the globe to build capability and 
interoperability against shared missile threats.
    Asia/Pacific. MDA uses Foreign Military Sales (FMS) to deliver the 
SM-3 Block IB and Block IIA interceptors to Japan and provide the 
weapon system components and associated software for two Japanese-built 
Aegis System Equipped Vessels, which will be fielded with the solid-
State SPY-7 radar and an Aegis Weapon System. The first tactical SPY-7 
(V)1 radar array has been installed at the Production Test Center in 
Moorestown, NJ, and has successfully tracked satellites and aircraft. 
Production of the remaining radar hardware is on track to support full 
system light-off by the end of fiscal year 2025. MDA is also providing 
technical assistance to Australia to support its development of a Joint 
Air Battle Management System that will integrate Australia's air and 
missile defenses and enable interoperability with United States and 
other allied IAMD capabilities. MDA conducts cooperative research and 
development projects and studies with Japan, Republic of Korea, and 
Australia.
    Middle East. MDA continues to foster a strong, long-standing 
partnership with the Israel Missile Defense Organization. MDA provides 
$500 million per year for engineering, development, co-production, 
testing, and fielding of the Arrow Weapon System, the David's Sling 
Weapon System, and co-production for the Iron Dome Defense System. MDA 
is also executing fiscal year 2024 $5.2 billion Israel Security 
Supplemental Funding for additional procurement of Iron Dome Defense 
System, David's Sling Weapon System, and Iron Beam defense systems to 
counter short-range rocket threats. Arrow, David's Sling, and Iron Dome 
proved their immense value in Operation Swords of Iron and allow Israel 
to maintain their qualitative military edge against their adversaries. 
As a key participant in the development and negotiation of the 
supplemental Exchange of Letters, MDA's required U.S. workshare worth 
$2.750 billion will be brought back to the U.S. industrial base.
    In support of our global partners, MDA is currently in production 
of seven THAAD batteries, including interceptors, for the Kingdom of 
Saudi Arabia (KSA) FMS case. One battery has been emplaced in Saudi 
Arabia, and the second is scheduled for shipment later this year. THAAD 
KSA battery equipment and interceptor production deliveries will 
continue through fiscal year 2027. MDA also continues to support and 
provide additional capabilities via FMS to the two THAAD batteries of 
the United Arab Emirates. UAE was the first nation to employ fielded 
THAAD batteries during attacks from Iranian proxies. Working 
multilaterally with the Gulf Cooperation Council, MDA is defining 
recommendations for an integrated air and missile early warning 
architecture of sensors and command and control for the Arabian Gulf 
region.
    Europe and North America. MDA has a number of ongoing cooperative 
research and development projects and studies with the Netherlands, 
Norway, Denmark, and the United Kingdom. MDA also works closely with 
NATO by providing subject-matter expertise to the NATO Communication 
and Information Agency for the continuous testing and interoperability 
of BMD systems. Last year, MDA and Canada began a study to examine 
potential architectures to increase missile defense capabilities of 
North America. This is the first cooperative project between MDA and 
Canada in 17 years.
                     laser focus on the warfighter
    None of the Agency's many efforts would be possible without 
continuous collaboration with the Warfighter. To that end, MDA has 
intensified strategic engagement with the Combatant Commands, Services, 
and the Joint Staff. Our Missile Defense Board of Director meetings 
continue to serve as the premiere senior level forums to coordinate 
missile defense programs and issues with the Lead Military Departments. 
MDA goes to great lengths to involve the Warfighter early on during the 
technology development and product development phases to address 
requirements. We also support Lead Military Department efforts to plan 
for Doctrine, Organization, Training, Materiel, Leadership, Personnel, 
Facilities and Policy factors. Once the capability is fielded, close 
collaboration with the Services and Combatant Commands is essential to 
sustain and, as required, enhance that capability throughout its 
service life. Additionally, we back this up with real-time technical 
support, as demonstrated during recent real-world operations. Ensuring 
the Combatant Commanders and Services have what they need to fight and 
win will always be my top priority.
                               conclusion
    Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, Members of the 
Subcommittee, the Missile Defense Agency is committed to attracting and 
building the strong, skilled workforce we need to develop and deliver 
this Nation's next generation missile defense system. I would like to 
recognize and thank the men and women who serve in our Armed Forces at 
home and abroad and who operate the Missile Defense System with the 
support of our dedicated civilian and contractor workforce. I greatly 
appreciate your continued support for MDA and the missile defense 
mission, and I look forward to answering the committee's questions. 
Thank you.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General. General Rasch, 
welcome.

STATEMENT OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL ROBERT A. RASCH, USA, EXECUTIVE 
       OFFICER, GUAM DEFENSE SYSTEM JOINT PROGRAM OFFICE

    General Rasch. Thank you, Madam Chair. Chairman Fischer, 
Ranking Member King, and distinguished Members of this 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before 
you today to discuss the criticality of defending the island of 
Guam. On behalf of the Army Senior Leadership, we thank you for 
your continued support of our soldiers, sailors, airmen, 
marines, guardians, civilians, and their families.
    Guam is an indispensable part of the Homeland, and its 
defense is not only essential to the security of the United 
States but is also a strong deterrence to the ever-evolving 
complex threats we face. The fiscal year 2023 National Defense 
Authorization Act required the Secretary of Defense to 
designate a senior official to oversee the missile defense of 
Guam. In February 2024, as directed by the Under Secretary of 
Defense, Acquisition and Sustainment, the Guam Defense System 
Joint Program Office, JPO, was established at the Army Rapid 
Capability and Critical Technologies Office. Beyond the 
Department's investments in Guam's defense, the Under Secretary 
of the Navy is the appointed lead senior defense official for 
all other DOD efforts in Guam.
    The Joint Program Office is charged with synchronizing the 
development, testing, fielding, and sustainment of the Guam 
Defense System components and the integration of the 
corresponding command and control systems resulting in the 
development of a Joint Integrated Battle Manager, and this 
Battle Manager will allow current service and agency-owned 
components to behave as an integrated and unified system.
    The Joint Program Office works closely with the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment, the Guam 
Synchronization Oversight Council, and leadership across the 
services and the Missile Defense Agency to build and sustain an 
architecture capable of defending Guam against a multitude of 
complex air and missile defense threats.
    Together, the Department is working diligently and with 
urgency to secure the initial capability increment in 2027. 
This will provide capability well beyond the currently employed 
THAAD battery as part of Task Force Talon. Your continued 
support ensures that we remain capable of fighting for and from 
Guam, meeting the challenges of today and tomorrow.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to speak with you about 
this critical mission and the joint commitment to the defense 
of Guam. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of General Rasch follows:]

        Prepared Statement by Lieutenant General Robert A. Rasch
    Chairman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and Members of this 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today 
to discuss the criticality of defending the island of Guam. On behalf 
of the Army Senior Leadership, we thank you for your continued support 
of our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, Guardians, Civilians, and 
their Families.
    Guam is an indispensable part of the United States, and we are 
moving with haste to ensure we have the capabilities necessary to 
defend the island from ever-evolving complex threats. In addition to 
being part of the homeland, a robust defense of Guam provides a strong 
deterrence and preserves combat power and Joint Force projection if 
conflict arises.
    Pursuant to the Fiscal Year (FY) 23 National Defense Authorization 
Act, the Secretary of Defense designated the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Acquisition and Sustainment (USD(A&S)) as the Senior Defense 
Official responsible for the missile defense of Guam. In February 2024, 
as directed by the USD(A&S), the Guam Defense System Joint Program 
Office (GDS JPO) was established at the Army Rapid Capability and 
Critical Technologies Office (RCCTO).
            guam defense system architecture and background
    The JPO is charged with synchronizing the development, testing, 
fielding and sustainment of the Guam Defense System components and the 
integration of the corresponding command and control (C2) systems 
resulting in the development of a Joint Integrated Battle Manager 
(JIBM). The JIBM will allow current service and agency--owned 
components to behave as an integrated and unified system. The GDS 
effort includes the synchronization of over 20 prototype efforts and 
programs of record across three services and the Missile Defense Agency 
(MDA). Because of that, the JPO does not control resourcing for Service 
and Missile Defense Agency (MDA) programs contributing to the GDS 
architecture. The JPO is the materiel developer for GDS at the systems 
level and is responsible for providing GDS system-level architectural 
baselines and Guam-specific technical requirements. The JPO synthesizes 
the integrated system-level cost, schedule, performance, and risk 
posture of the GDS, providing senior Department of Defense (DOD) and 
congressional stakeholders with the necessary information to make 
informed investment and priority decisions to ensure success.
    The DOD's investments in Guam extend beyond the GDS. In January 
2024, the Deputy Secretary of Defense appointed the Under Secretary of 
the Navy as the Lead Senior Defense Official for the DOD's efforts in 
Guam. Through the Guam Synchronization Oversight Council, a forum that 
includes senior leaders from across the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense and the services, the Under Secretary of the Navy ensures 
visibility on key issues, synchronizes military construction efforts, 
and serves as the Department's primary liaison to the government of 
Guam.
    The JPO works closely with the USD(A&S), the Guam Synchronization 
Oversight Council, and leadership across the services and the MDA to 
build and sustain an architecture capable of defending Guam against a 
multitude of complex air and missile defense threats. Together, the 
Department is working diligently and with urgency to secure the initial 
capability increment in 2027-2028, beyond the currently employed the 
Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) Battery in Task Force 
Talon. To this end, the JPO is leading the Department's efforts to 
synchronize and integrate GDS capabilities across several capability 
domains (doctrine, organization, training, materiel, leadership and 
education, personnel, facilities, and policy) with a specific focus on 
creating doctrine to fight as an integrated, digitized Joint Force for 
the Integrated Air and Missile Defense fight. We are working across the 
enterprise to finalize the organizational structure and path to certify 
the Guam Command Center, and have also been tasked to create a common 
understanding across the DOD on the status of GDS and identify risks/
gaps to provide mitigation recommendations to the Commander, U.S. Indo-
Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) through a routine series of updates.
    The JPO was approved by the USD(A&S) to pursue a hybrid acquisition 
strategy in which the synchronization of integrated air and missile 
defense components' deliveries will be managed as a Middle Tier 
Acquisition for Rapid Fielding and the Joint Integrated Battle Manager 
will be developed using the software pathway. The JIBM will provide an 
integrated command and control layer over proven systems from across 
the Services such as Aegis, Integrated Air and Missile Defense Battle 
Command System (IBCS), Command and Control Battle Management 
Communications (C2BMC), and Tactical Operations Center--Light (TOC-L) 
enabling efficient responses to threats without duplication. This 
integration layer will provide artificial intelligence-optimization 
algorithms and decision management aids to enhance performance of the 
joint system against the scale and complexity of the threat. The use of 
the software acquisition pathway provides flexibility to rapidly design 
and deliver an open system that will have the ability to be replicated 
or scaled quickly to other Areas of Operation. This will benefit not 
only USINDOPACOM, but any Combatant Command providing Commanders with 
the capability needed to fight and win.
    Similarly, as the Department refines its plans for the Golden Dome 
of America, the investment in the GDS may play a pivotal role informing 
this strategy. During a recent visit to Guam, the Secretary of Defense 
emphasized the importance of this approach, stating that 'the Guam 
Defense System is a model for the Golden Dome.' This alignment 
underscores the critical role that Guam's defense architecture and 
command and control integration will play in shaping future U.S. 
defense initiatives, setting a standard for how we approach and 
implement integrated defense systems across the Nation. Critical 
components to the joint architecture that might be shared by both Guam 
and Golden Dome include MDA's Joint Track Management Capability bridge 
as a functional joint engagement coordination baseline, joint 
electronic protection attributes to add resiliency to our sensor 
network, non-kinetic threat engagement capabilities to preserve high 
value kinetic interceptors, the integration of the Army's IAMD Battle 
Command System with MDA's THAAD system to support joint force 
employment flexibility and the Joint Integrated Battle Management 
capability that integrates the service and agency C2 systems.
    Thank you once again for the opportunity to speak with you today 
about this critical mission and the joint commitment to the defense of 
Guam. Your continued support ensures that we remain capable of fighting 
for and from Guam, meeting the challenges of today and tomorrow.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General Resch, and thank you 
all for your opening statements.
    We don't have too many of us here today so we may have more 
than one round of questions. I will begin the first round.
    General Guillot, I have appreciated our past conversations 
about the need for increased domain awareness, for we cannot 
shoot what we cannot see. As we look toward Golden Dome and the 
future of missile defense, what additional improvements need to 
be made with respect to domain awareness?
    General Guillot. Madam Chair, I think that what I call the 
domain awareness layer of Golden Dome is the most critical that 
we need to have first, for the reasons that you just mentioned. 
Any chance of using advanced interceptors or defeat 
capabilities would not be possible if we can't detect and track 
these threats.
    I think that it is a seabed-to-space approach. We need to 
have undersea sensors to detect submarines that can now get 
closer to North America than they could before, based on 
improved stealthiness of those ships. Then a ground layer that 
can see much further out because of the advanced standoff 
weapons that our adversaries can now employ. We need an air 
layer, like the E-7, to close the kill chain with fighter 
aircrafts or surface-to-air systems, and then a space layer. 
The space layer would both track airborne moving targets or 
aircraft, but also systems like Hypersonic Ballistic Tracking 
Space Sensor (HBTSS) that could track hypersonics, as well as 
the warning capability that we need to detect the launches to 
begin with.
    Senator Fischer. Is there anything you can tell us in this 
setting about Golden Dome and the options that may be available 
on the sensors and the radar systems that would be used?
    General Guillot. Madam Chair, I don't know what the Golden 
Dome will look like, but I suspect that it would be able to use 
a lot of the systems that are already in place and currently in 
development, which would give us a full capability in probably 
something closer to zero to 5 years, as opposed to something, 
you know, a decade out into the future. A couple of those 
systems would be the HBTSS that I just mentioned for the 
hypersonics, space-based Airborne Moving Target Indication 
(AMTI), which we have a number of prototype systems on orbit 
now, over-the-horizon radars which are also operational in, not 
in the United States, but elsewhere. For instance, the E-7 
which many other countries operate.
    Senator Fischer. So given that, how much risk would Golden 
Dome incur if the Department was forced to vacate the lower 3 
Gigahertz (GHz) or a portion of the 7-8 GHz spectrum that it 
now has?
    General Guillot. Madam Chair, it is my assessment that we 
would assume an extraordinarily high level of risk if we lose 
control of those portions of the spectrum. Many of the systems 
that we rely on every day today, much less in the future, for 
Homeland defense, reside in that spectrum range.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Collins, can you 
provide us with an update on the Hypersonic and Ballistic 
Tracking Space Sensor, or the HBTSS system?
    General Collins. Yes, Madam Chair, thank you. So, the 
Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor is a prototype 
program that MDA pursued to prove out the technology such that 
from space we could close the kill chain on a hypersonic 
weapon. The focus of that was to prove out that the space 
system could have the accuracy, the track quality, and get that 
data into the command-and-control system fast enough to be able 
to close that fire control loop.
    Those two systems, launched in February of last year, have 
gone through two test bed launches where we had a test bed 
target launch fly a hypersonic profile, and we have collected 
data from the sensors during that. So far, we have proven out 
the timeliness, latency of the fire control loop with those 
systems, as well as the sensitivity of those systems to close 
the loop. We are going back with some algorithm updates into 
the payload to improve on the track quality. But we see that 
closing as well.
    It has been a very successful prototype program, and all 
along, we have worked in parallel with the Space Force and 
Space Development Agency. They now have our HBTSS-like 
requirements as part of their proliferated warfighting space 
architecture. In the tranches to come in the follow-on years 
they will slowly be building up an operational hypersonic 
tracking layer for us.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Perhaps in another setting we 
can talk about a more definitive timeline when that would be 
available. Thank you.
    Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you, Madam Chair. The nature of my 
questions may appear to be critical. I am certainly in favor of 
defending the Homeland against missile attack. No question. My 
fundamental question is, is it feasible, given today's 
technology and also the cost involved. I will quote Lincoln: 
``Your critic is your best friend,'' so take it in that spirit.
    For example, Ms. Yaffe, you mentioned deterrence by denial. 
Is that really viable today, deterrence by denial? Can we 
realistically say that we could deny a substantial missile 
attack from Russia or China, or heaven forbid, both?
    Ms. Yaffe. Senator----
    Senator King. I am a great believer in deterrence. I am 
just not sure deterrence by denial is realistic in this 
setting. Convince me.
    Ms. Yaffe. Senator, thank you for the question. This is 
meant to be an integrated air and missile defense system that 
is intended to send a message to the adversary that they may 
not achieve their objectives. What we want to do is place the 
burden of escalation on the adversary and demonstrate that it 
will be harder for them to achieve their objectives in an 
attack.
    Right now, as you are well aware, we do not have a homeland 
missile defense system that is intended to guard against 
adversary threats beyond North Korea or rogue State actor 
threats. Meanwhile, the threats themselves have been expanding 
significantly, with Russia and China pursuing a breadth of 
capability----
    Senator King. Well, that is my point. We have developed a 
Missile Defense Agency essentially to defend against North 
Korea and Iran and perhaps a rogue, not China and Russia. Now 
we are talking about an accelerating Chinese pursuit of this 
capability. Russia already has the largest nuclear stockpile in 
the world.
    What level of scaling up would it take to have a missile 
defense system capable of providing any realistic deterrent to 
China and Russia?
    Ms. Yaffe. Sir, this is not an answer that will be 
deliverable overnight. However, what the President has done is 
challenged us to actually look at what an integrated air and 
missile defense system of the Homeland would look like, which 
is not something we----
    Senator King. What does that mean? Is that 1,000 THAAD 
batteries around cities?
    Ms. Yaffe. Sir, I can't weigh in on what the specific 
architecture would look like. I can't get ahead of what the 
architecture decision will be that will come out, I think, with 
the budget. However, it is intended to leverage new 
technologies to get ahead--we have got, certainly, the lift in 
the executive order--but to leverage some new technologies both 
to accelerate the deployment of the HBTSS on the hypersonic 
side, also to leverage non-kinetics. I know that you are 
interested in directed energy to see what directed energy might 
be able to help with, to help us change the cost curve.
    But it should be a mix of new technologies that we might be 
able to demonstrate in the next 4 or 5 years, along with----
    Senator King. What is the assumption----
    Ms. Yaffe.--legacy systems.
    Senator King. General Collins, what is the assumption of 
how many Ground Based Interceptors (GBIs) would have to be 
launched to knock out one North Korean ICBM?
    General Collins. Sir, that would be a classified number. We 
would have to wait until the closed session to answer that.
    Senator King. All right. Well, General Guillot, you 
mentioned seabed. Isn't that a critical area where we need 
better sensors, better knowledge, and particularly in your Area 
of Responsibility (AOR), in the Northwest?
    General Guillot. Senator, absolutely. It is critical, the 
seabed. Detection and awareness of the seabed and the undersea 
environment are critical to homeland defense.
    Senator King. The Russians are, in fact, significantly 
building up their military infrastructure on their shore of the 
Arctic Ocean. Is that correct?
    General Guillot. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator King. So that is an area where we have to have 
better visibility, and also to the west, as the balloon 
incident told us.
    General Guillot. Yes, sir. All true.
    Senator King. You mentioned directed energy. The reason for 
my question, General Collins--and I understand in classified--
but those interceptors are about $60 million a copy. I can 
understand maybe that is a reasonable number if you are talking 
about a limited capacity of North Korea or Iran, but if you are 
talking about between now it is 300, up to 1,000 missiles in 
China, I don't know how many, several thousand, from Russia, 
the economics don't work. How do you feel about the potential 
of directed energy, which is about 75 cents a shot once it is 
installed?
    General Collins. Yes, sir. We are certainly interested in 
pursuing directed energy from a missile defense perspective. At 
this point in time, we are years away from having a capability 
that would be able to have an effect against an 
intercontinental ballistic missile. So for the near future we 
will still very much rely on the layered approaches that we 
have today for ballistic missile defense.
    Senator King. Define layered approach. You have used that 
term several times.
    General Collins. Yes, sir. We look to be able to take 
multiple engagements on any missile as it is coming in. So in a 
perfect world we would try to intercept and take out the 
missile when it is still coming out of the ground and being 
launched from the enemy territory. That is the boost phase. 
While it is in space it is midcourse phase, and then as it is 
coming back into the atmosphere it is the terminal phase.
    Today we very much focus on the midcourse for engagements. 
We would certainly look to be able to try to bring technology 
to bear that we could get into the boost phase preferred, but 
then we may also have capabilities, an underlayer of 
capability, that could be brought to bear to then have a second 
shot or a second engagement capability while it is in terminal.
    So the layers of defense, or defense in depth, is what I 
refer to when I mention layered missile defense.
    Senator King. I think the prior administration lowered the 
directed energy budget by a half over the past 4 or 5 years. I 
think that was a terrible strategic mistake. I hope this 
Administration will remedy that, because you mentioned it is 
going to be years. One way to make it months instead of years 
is to devote more resources to the research and development of 
that capability, which it seems to me is clearly the technology 
of the future in this field.
    Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Senator 
Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Sounds like a guessing game 
to me, a lot of things that are going to happen, and of course, 
I don't know how many missiles could reach our mainland that 
they have right now, but obviously space is going to decide a 
lot of that, with missiles coming from space in the near 
future.
    But that being said, General, how are we doing on Guam? We 
got the Aegis system started, what, about 3 years ago, maybe a 
little less? How are you doing? Getting better?
    General Rasch. Senator, getting better. Lots of teamwork 
across the services and with Missile Defense Agency, and my hat 
goes off to General Collins and his team who really led the 
Department of Defense in early implementation, all the legwork 
for laying the ground efforts for the military construction 
that occurred there.
    MDA demonstrated this last year early Aegis Guam capability 
with a flight test that was executed there, very successfully. 
That work was really the starting point. That equipment has 
stayed onsite. It offers a credible deterrence against 
potential adversaries, while the Army then does its planning to 
come in, in the 2027 timeframe, with the next, what we call 
tranche one of capability for Guam.
    It is a lot of consensus building. It is a lot of teamwork 
across the Department of Defense. This is the Homeland, so, in 
in several ways, we are learning a lot of lessons that we 
believe can also apply to the Golden Dome team as they continue 
that mission set. But very optimistic that the Army is going to 
meet its mission, that will have a credible capability on 
island in the timeframe we lay out.
    Senator Tuberville. Have we decided who is going to operate 
it?
    General Rasch. Well, that decision, as we build out the 
overall command and control capability, the C2 for the defense 
of Guam would typically fall to the Air Force to conduct that 
overall coordination. But it will be manned jointly as we have 
both Navy systems, Air Force systems, Army systems on the 
ground. We will have, you know, servicemen and women from all 
of those services operating it typically under an Air Force 
leadership who will then report to the combatant commander, 
Admiral Paparo.
    Senator Tuberville. Does that include Reserve, National 
Guard?
    General Rasch. Sir, it absolutely can. Even with the small 
footprint the Army has had on island today with the Task Force 
Talon, which is the THAAD battery, we have relied heavily on 
the Guam National Guard who provides a security force for that 
unit that is operating away from a typical Army base. A great 
job of those soldiers, supporting that mission truly defending 
the Homeland. Within the Army, there is talk about potentially 
expanding that mission set for the Guard members on Guam. It is 
still under discussion, so I can't get ahead of those decisions 
as they play out. But I believe all things are on the table at 
this point.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. I know it is a long process, 
a long process. I mean, how many years do you think we have got 
left to be fully operational?
    General Rasch. Senator, I believe we will be improving this 
capability forever, and defense never rests because offensive 
threat never rests. So, we will continually evolve. The point 
of our effort is to try to get as much capability as soon as 
possible, and capability isn't just a thing. It is not just, 
you know, a launcher. It is not just a radar. It is not even 
just a command and control. It is soldiers, you know, airmen, 
you know, all the folks actually manning this equipment, 
ensuring they are properly trained. It is ensuring that we have 
the proper sustainment tail on island to support it, that we 
can sustain it not just for a day, but for years in time. So, 
we will be at this for a while.
    Senator Tuberville. It is like defending a different 
offense every week, if you are a football coach. You have got 
to change, don't you?
    General Rasch. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. General Collins, thank you 
for the footprint you have in my State of Alabama at Redstone 
Arsenal. We are proud of all the work you are doing. How much 
of MDA's effort and investment in Golden Dome do you expect to 
take place in Huntsville? Do you expect to request any 
additional resources for maintenance or buildings or anything 
like that in the future?
    General Collins. Well, Sir, Missile Defense Agency is 
really proud of being part of the Tennessee Valley and that 
Redstone Arsenal. Certainly, a large contingent of our 
workforce is at Redstone Arsenal, and as well as many of our 
industry partners are in that area, as well.
    I can't give you an exact percentage, but certainly the 
engineers, the program managers, the contracting officers, the 
entire workforce of Missile Defense Agency and the associated 
industry members are going to be very busy and very devoted to 
making any of the parts of Golden Dome real.
    Senator Tuberville. You are building things right now too, 
right? You have got things under construction, I think the last 
time I was there.
    General Collins. Yes, sir. We are doing them. We are in the 
middle of a ground test facility infrastructure update, which 
is a fairly large renovation and construction project that is 
going on. That is going on right now, to help get us ready for 
the ground test infrastructure we need to support next gen 
missile defense. As we start digesting and dissolving the 
Golden Dome requirements, there may be additional requirements 
that we need to make sure we are ready to go.
    Senator Tuberville. I got one more question, if we got time 
here. General Collins, I want to ask you about our space-based 
sensors, which is an absolutely critical component of any 
effort to develop the next-generation missile defense 
capability. Last year, the U.S. put a new hypersonic and 
ballistic tracking space sensor satellite in orbit. Do we have 
any plans, either as part of the Golden Dome architecture or 
independently, to expand that capability?
    General Collins. Yes, sir. We, as well, believe that a very 
effective and resilient space layer is going to be critical to 
the future missile defense requirements of the Homeland as well 
as our deployed forces. We rely on space assets today as part 
of our kill chain for initial tip-off, and we will continue to 
do that.
    The Space Force, Space Development Agency, will 
operationalize the HBTSS capability. The relationship we have 
with Space Force is we may prototype technology that is 
required and prove it out for missile defense. The Space Force 
will operationalize that capability as we move forward, and 
HBTSS will be foundational. That type of technology will be 
foundational to hypersonic missile defense in the future. We 
are working on future prototyping space sensor capabilities, in 
particular, discriminating space sensor to help improve 
ballistic missile defense in the future as well. We will 
prototype and Space Force will operationalize. Space will be 
very key to protecting the Homeland and our deployed forces in 
the future. Thanks, Senator.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    General Rasch, when you look at the defense that Guam is 
going require, you and I, earlier today, we had a conversation 
about that and the importance of integrating those systems--
Army, Navy, MDA.
    My Co-Chair talked about directed energy and how important 
the uses of that could be, and it would be a lot cheaper. But, 
can you compare the systems that we need to integrate for the 
defense of Guam specifically, and some of the challenges that 
we face looking at directed energy and the capabilities it has 
in some more adverse conditions that are out there, maybe not 
always ready, and the different options it provides you and 
your soldiers with as you look toward defending that island?
    General Rasch. Madam Chair, absolutely, and thank you for 
the question. As we spoke earlier, the new thing that we are 
doing for Guam is not just putting the individual material 
systems and programs on island, but really taking the first 
step at integrating the command and control functions. So Air 
Force has a system, Tactical Operations Center (TOC) Light. The 
Navy has their Aegis system, which will be Aegis Guam. Missile 
Defense Agency has Command, Control, Battle, Managment 
Communications (C2BMC), and the Army has the Integrated Air 
Missile Defense Battle Command System, IBCS. These are four 
separate systems that loosely interoperate now, but we believe 
that is not good enough in the long term. So we are integrating 
these with a layer of decision support on top of the Joint 
Integrated Battle Manager.
    This capability will leverage a lot of the work that 
Missile Defense Agency has done to date in that single 
integrated air picture arena, of getting a common air picture 
with those systems, and then providing a layer of decision aids 
on top, so that the decisionmaking, who has got a hard decision 
to make on a potential threat, can actually do fire direction 
to the appropriate system that actually has a killing 
capability.
    So that is the new work that we are doing for Guam from a 
command and control or fire control perspective.
    With regards to directed energy, as General Collins said, 
the technology is evolving, and the Army, I know, has invested 
a lot in ground systems from a directed energy perspective. We 
have deployed several of those systems overseas to get 
continued operational assessment. For the defense of Guam there 
is the potential, as those technologies continue to evolve, to 
be integrated in as part of this architecture.
    Realizing, though, that directed energy is not a panacea. 
As you pointed out, there are days, good days and bad days, for 
lasers. Weather can affect their lethality. It can affect the 
range. So, as we continue to learn about this technology and 
what its capability is, we also have to ensure that we 
integrate the atmospherics at the time. You know, as you get 
closer to the Earth the air is dirtier. Windy days create dust, 
which can reflect or refract the light. Moisture can do the 
same thing, if it is raining.
    So having a mix of capabilities, and that the soldiers that 
are operating that integrated system understand basically how 
good the laser is today. The ranges of those directed energy 
systems are not out at the ranges of our more exquisite and 
expensive missile systems are.
    So we have to build that trust with the soldiers, that if 
they let a threat getting closer, to allow directed energy to 
be the effector, that it is going to work. So that is something 
that the Army, I know, was working at lower powers, 
necessarily, than we would put on Guam, but starting down that 
venture now, and we are looking forward to seeing where that 
technology takes us.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General.
    Senator Kelly, you are recognized.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Madam Chair. General Collins, so 
last year Missile Defense Agency proposed termination of the 
Standard Misile-3 (SM-3), and months after that termination 
recommendation that missile was used in defense of Israel 
against ballistic missiles. So based on the recent combat 
experience with the SM-3, and I am not sure exactly what the 
number of rounds that were fired, but what is the current plan 
for the SM-3 going forward? Has that plan been reevaluated?
    General Collins. Thanks, Senator, for that question. 
Certainly in last year's hearing we certainly talked about the 
decision, the fiscal decision that was made to terminate the 
SM-3 Block 1B line. Since that, you are very right, it has been 
a workhorse in the Eastern Mediterranean, protecting the 
citizens of the State of Israel.
    As we now are planning with the increased focus on missile 
defense of the Homeland and missile defense in general, the 
future decision space within the SM-3 program is being re-
looked at, as part of the deliberations for Golden Dome, and, 
as well, with the President's budget that is in development.
    What I would also, though, say is through a number of 
supplementals we do appreciate the support that has come 
through supplemental funding that has come back to replenish 
the SM-3 1B lots that were expended in the Eastern Med, and we 
will continue to track that very closely with both the Block 1B 
and the Block 2A's, moving forward.
    Senator Kelly. Do you know how many rounds were fired, SM-3 
rounds?
    General Collins. I do not have the latest but it is in the 
dozens.
    Senator Kelly. The SM-3 line has not been shut down at all, 
so it sounds like, in fact, the rate of production has 
increased.
    General Collins. The rate of production is still 
continuing. We still have fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 
plus the supplemental funding that still will go on contract 
before the end of this year. So that line will still remain 
open for years into the future. It takes a few years from 
beginning to end to get those rounds out.
    The funding decisions, though, are here and now, to make 
sure that we continue to keep that line open and viable as we 
move forward.
    Senator Kelly. Go back to last year when the decision was 
made to terminate production of SM-3. What was the plan for the 
follow-on missile that would perform the duties of the SM-3?
    General Collins. Sir, there was not a plan set forward on a 
replacement for the SM-3 1B. It was to rely more on the Block 
2A line, which is a larger, more expensive missile, but the 
quantity production rates were lower for that missile. But that 
was the decision.
    Senator Kelly. General Rasch, I appreciate all the work you 
and your team have done on the Guam defense system. I am 
interested in hearing any lessons from Guam Defense that can be 
applied to Golden Dome as we come up with a plan. I know the 
study has been, well, the timeline for the 60-day study is 
complete. But anything that informed that study from Guam 
Defense?
    General Rasch. Senator, thank you for your question, and 
absolutely lessons learned. Guam, being part of the Homeland, 
provides a lot of the same challenges that we will have here at 
Continental United States (CONUS). Interagency cooperation and 
coordination will be required. We have certainly learned that 
on Guam, so it is not just a DOD venture. It is bringing in the 
whole-of-government as far as site locations, environmentals, 
everything that we have to do there. We have certainly shared 
that across with the teammates as they are thinking about the 
Golden Dome, the Golden Dome challenge.
    The other area that I believe is significant is the 
integration of our command and control systems. Our services 
have typically fought the air missile defense threat as 
stovepipes, and so our work to do that level of integration, 
for at least the land piece of those systems, from the Army, 
the Navy, the Air Force, and Missile Defense Agency, to start 
the integration of that, absolutely should be a model, or at 
least a starting point for how we take on the bigger challenge 
of developing and air missile defense capability across the 
entire continental U.S.
    Senator Kelly. Ms. Yaffe, on the 60-day study, I know the 
report has gone to the White House. I don't know if the 
President has signed off on it yet. It doesn't sound like it. 
But I want to just hear, if you can speak to what kind of 
preliminary activities have been accomplished and anything you 
can say about what you have discovered in the 60-day study.
    Ms. Yaffe. Sir, thank you. I think I can say broadly, as 
you know, this executive order really challenged the Department 
to take this integrated approach in a really unprecedented way 
that would require the breaking down of silos to be successful.
    When it came into the building, our office, the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense, joining with Joint Staff to bring 
together all of the stakeholders and start working on different 
design options, we matured them to a place where the technical 
experts took over and really refined them into a few different 
options to bring to the Secretary.
    My understanding is the Secretary of Defense and other 
Department leaders have engaged with the President, and the 
hope is that there will be an announcement soon, certainly tied 
with the budget. There was a breadth of options looked at that 
tied the new and potential ways to accelerate developmental 
capabilities to get some demonstrations with the existing 
capabilities, so that we can have an integrated, layered 
system.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Thank you.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator King you 
are recognized.
    Senator King. General Rasch, I am very interested in Guam 
as a test bed, which has been discussed repeatedly in this 
hearing. My question is, how much has the development of 
missile defense infrastructure on Guam cost?
    General Rasch. Senator, that is a good question, and 
obviously one that gets a lot of interest because there tends 
to be a conflating of different costs to support overall the 
island of Guam. Obviously still recovering from a horrible 
typhoon a few years ago. There are dollars that the DOD is 
investing in fixing things that were damaged.
    Senator King. No, I understand that. But can the defense 
piece that you have discussed here today, be isolated and 
identified? Somebody must know what it has cost.
    General Rasch. Yes, Senator, it can, and we have estimated 
that at about an $8 billion investment. Not new investment but 
really it is the cost of the systems that the services were 
building already that will now be located at Guam, 
approximately $8 billion across all of the services when you 
look through the overall cost of the individual components.
    Senator King. I find that concerning because I just did a 
calculation here, 779 cities in the United States with more 
than 50,000 people. In fact, Guam is half the size of San 
Antonio. So if we are talking about providing the level of 
defense that we have on Guam for our citizens in our country, 
we are talking about an awful lot of money. I can't do the math 
in my head, but 800 times $6 billion is a pretty astronomical 
cost.
    Again, as you can tell, I am skeptical. I want to be proven 
wrong. I look forward to future hearings and discussions and 
seeing how Golden Dome evolves. The question is, is it the best 
place to put our money, or should we be developing our 
deterrent capability and accelerating the reconstruction of the 
Triad as a more effective deterrent than one that looks like it 
has some technical and financial questions.
    But I think the next time we have this hearing we probably 
will have some more answers about what Golden Dome actually 
looks like. Don't get me wrong, I am all for protecting the 
Homeland. It is just a question of how much will it cost 
relative to other defense needs and how effective can it be 
technologically, given the development of things like 
hypersonics, maneuverable missiles that, as you know, General 
Guillot, are below the level of traditional sensors and much 
more difficult to intercept.
    I look forward to continuing this discussion, and certainly 
I hope, Madam Chair, that as soon as Golden Dome is more 
formulated we can have a hearing to discuss its components.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. I agree with you. 
I believe Golden Dome is part of the mix and the options that 
are out there as we look at the defense of our Homeland, and 
specifically in the Indo-Pacific with Guam, as well. We have 
heard from a number of our panelists at posture hearings but 
also in classified briefings that the Administration has 
followed previous administrations in putting the top priority 
on our Triad, on modernization, on making sure that the 
President will have options there, as well.
    So I look forward to seeing, with you, how Golden Dome is 
going to be able to fit in the mix, along with hypersonics and 
many other options that are going to be available in the 
future.
    With that I thank the panel for being here today. Senator 
King and I need to get down and vote. But we thank all of you 
for your dedication, for the time you give us here in the 
Senate, and on this Subcommittee especially, and the 
information you provide us. Thank you.
    We are adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 5:34 p.m., the Subcommittee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                           required resources
    1. Senator Cotton. General Collins, will you be advocating for a 
significantly bigger budget to effectively implement Golden Dome?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Beginning with fiscal year 2026 
President's Budget requestfor fiscal year , the Missile Defense Agency 
future budget requests will include the requisite funding to 
effectively support the implementation and integration of the Golden 
Dome architecture.
                         golden dome diplomacy
    2. Senator Cotton. General Collins, how will the Golden Dome 
architecture provide a stabilizing force between the United States and 
its adversaries, by providing the freedom of maneuver to respond to an 
attack?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Golden Dome architecture provides a 
stabilizing force between the United States and its adversaries by 
presenting a formidable missile defense system. It is in response to 
years of adversaries' developing advanced capabilities to threaten our 
security and the increasingly unstable situation that they have 
created. Robust defenses raise the stakes for adversaries and introduce 
significant uncertainty and complexity into their attack planning, 
ultimately undermining their confidence in a successful outcome. 
Combined with the United States' enhanced ability to deter through 
punishment, missile defenses disincentivize, and reduce the likelihood 
of, a contemplated armed attack on the United States.
    Should deterrence fail, a robust national missile defense system 
would limit the damage inflicted on the United States' population, 
infrastructure, and retaliatory capabilities. This, in turn, would 
afford the President more time and flexibility in decisionmaking, 
safeguard offensive options from destruction, and potentially 
facilitate de-escalation. If the Golden Dome architecture is not 
developed to address advancing missile threats, U.S. options during 
crisis escalation could be significantly curtailed.
                   golden dome magazine requirements
    3. Senator Cotton. General Collins, how much is successful 
intercept of advanced threats a function of capabilities versus arsenal 
size, and how do you balance that?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.
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                Questions Submitted by Senator Jim Banks
                             space sensors
    4. Senator Banks. Ms. Yaffe, President Trump has made the 
implementation of a Golden Dome missile defense system a priority. The 
need for a defense system with the ability to neutralize the threat of 
ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise missiles is essential to national 
security. How can Congress help revitalize the defense industrial base 
and its supply chain to help accelerate and deploy a Space-Based Sensor 
Layer for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
             hypersonic and ballistic tracking space sensor
    5. Senator Banks. Ms. Yaffe, the President's Executive Order (EO) 
directs the acceleration of the deployment of Hypersonic and Ballistic 
Tracking Space Sensor. With the likelihood of the Department of Defense 
operating under a continuing resolution (CR) throughout the entirety of 
the calendar year, how will this affect the timing of Golden Dome 
initiatives?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
                    acquisition policy--lead agency
    6. Senator Banks. Ms. Yaffe, as we look to accelerate the 
implementation of the Golden Dome, which specific agency of the 
Department intends to lead the acquisition process?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.

    7. Senator Banks. Ms. Yaffe, if no single agency will lead the 
process, what aspects of the process does the Department plan to be led 
by which agencies?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                       missile defense of hawaii
    8. Senator Hirono. General Guillot, the President's recent missile 
defense Executive Order tasks you with providing ``an updated 
assessment of the strategic missile threat to the Homeland''. I remain 
concerned about the viability of the Department of Defense's (DOD) 
strategy to defend Hawaii from missile threats. Will you commit to 
include the missile defense of Hawaii as part of your assessment?
    General Guillot. Yes, in coordination with USINDOPACOM, I will 
include missile defense of Hawaii in my assessment.
                       missile defense resourcing
    9. Senator Hirono. General Guillot, our adversaries are investing 
heavily in advanced air and missile systems that threaten the United 
States and require increased investments in missile defense 
capabilities. How is United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) 
coordinating with United States Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) to 
ensure the missile defense of Hawaii?
    General Guillot. USNORTHCOM is responsible for the Ballistic 
Missile Defense of Hawaii and routinely conducts exercises to ensure a 
high level of proficiency. We also have well-established processes with 
USINDOPACOM to share information on potential threats and our Ballistic 
Missile Defense posture.

    10. Senator Hirono. General Guillot, will you commit to working 
with my office to ensure that Hawaii is protected as part of the 
implementation of the Golden Dome EO and additional architecture?
    General Guillot. Yes, I commit to ensuring Hawaii is protected as 
part of the Golden Dome Executive Order.

    11. Senator Hirono. General Guillot, between January 20 and April 
8, the U.S. military flew 46 flights that carried migrants on military 
aircraft. These flights lasted 802.5 hours, at a cost of approximately 
$21,087,300, according to information provided in response to 
congressional Requests for Information. As the operational leader for 
the border mission, how is NORTHCOM's expanded border security and 
mission impacting resourcing for the missile defense?
    General Guillot. I am not aware of the border mission having any 
impact on missile defense resourcing. Both missions are priorities for 
the Department of Defense, and NORAD and USNORTHCOM do not anticipate 
one mission competing for funding with the other.
                          ground-based sensors
    12. Senator Hirono. Lieutenant General Collins, how is the 
Department integrating commercial ground-based sensors in the Golden 
Dome architecture and leveraging the Joint Global Hypersonic 
Operational Sensor Tasking program sponsored by the Missile Defense 
Agency to identify promising commercial sensors that could augment the 
current integrated air and missile defense architecture?
    Lieutenant General Collins. [Deleted.]
               engagement with non-traditional companies
    13. Senator Hirono. Lieutenant General Collins, how is the Missile 
Defense Agency (MDA) improving communication and transparency with non-
traditional companies as part of the Golden Dome program?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA is prioritizing a greater focus 
on research and development with nontraditional defense contractors. 
MDA will work directly with the Director of GDA on efforts in which 
communication and transparency will be critical to rapidly developing 
missile defense technologies and capabilities.
         engagement with allies and partners on missile defense
    14. Senator Hirono. Ms. Yaffe, how are you increasing engagement 
with allies and partners, particularly in the Indo-Pacific, on missile 
defense?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.

    15. Senator Hirono. Ms. Yaffe, what type of cross-DOD and 
interagency coordination is the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy 
(USD(P)) pursuing and leading to this end?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
                       missile defense of hawaii
    16. Senator Hirono. Lieutenant General Collins, will you commit to 
working with my office to ensure that Hawaii is protected as part of 
the implementation of the Golden Dome EO and additional architecture?
    Lieutenant General Collins. I am committed to protecting the 
homeland, which includes Hawaii. In coordination with the Director of 
GDA, I will work with your office on matters related to implementing 
GDA.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                              golden dome
    17. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what is DOD's estimate or range 
for the cost of deploying the so-called ``Golden Dome'' or a similar 
system across the entire United States? Please describe your 
methodology for the estimate or the source.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. The Administration recently announced a potential 
cost of $175 billion for Golden Dome for America over a period of 3 
years. The Department of Defense closely coordinated with the Services 
and the Missile Defense Agency to develop cost estimates, and I defer 
to the Department regarding the methodology for this estimate.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    18. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, please describe the process the 
DOD will use to estimate the costs of Golden Dome.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are primarily responsible for 
establishing operational requirements for executing the commands' 
assigned missions. The recently established Direct Reporting Program 
Manager, in coordination with the Services and Missile Defense Agency, 
will lead the process for estimating costs.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    19. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, please describe the process the 
DOD will use to provide program justification for Golden Dome.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are primarily responsible for 
establishing operational requirements for executing the commands' 
assigned missions. I would defer to the Department regarding the 
Department's processes for program justification.
    Lieutenant General Collins. There will be primary programs aligned 
to the DRPM of GDA as well as GDA contributing to programs existing in 
other services portfolios. Many MDA programs will be a primary resource 
for executing the GDA program and this differentiation will be outlined 
in PB27 budget documentation.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    20. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, please describe the process the 
DOD will use to assess and determine the technological feasibility of 
Golden Dome.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are primarily responsible for 
establishing operational requirements utilizing an Initial Capabilities 
Document. The recently established Direct Reporting Program Manager, in 
coordination with the Services and Missile Defense Agency, will lead 
the process for estimating technological feasibility.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Twenty years of advancements in U.S. 
missile defense technology, as well as recent successful deployments to 
protect allies and partners, have demonstrated the technological 
feasibility of our systems. Building on these successes, GDA will 
require next-gen investments and integration across the DoW components 
to realize the full GDA architecture.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    21. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, would DOD cut, delay, or reduce 
the scope of any existing missile defense programs that may duplicate 
Golden Dome capabilities? Please describe which existing programs could 
be considered duplicative and whether they would be cut, delayed, or 
reduced in scope.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM have not identified 
duplicative capabilities requiring cuts, delays, or reduction in scope. 
In fact, the commands have advocated for earlier operationalization of 
identified capabilities to meet operational requirements. NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM will continue to work with the Golden Dome Direct Reporting 
Program Manager to support the Department's effort in delivering a 
capable and cost-effective defense system.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates. In 
this capacity, he will identify the contributing programs for inclusion 
within the system-of-systems GDA architecture.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    22. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, given that the Israeli Iron Dome 
is designed to intercept slow, short-range threats, is there a 
technical plan to adapt that system into one that can counter more 
advanced missile threats possessed by the United States's adversaries?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Israel's Iron Dome is just one system within 
Israel's Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) network. Similarly, 
Golden Dome for America (GDA) will also be an IAMD network designed to 
counter the entire spectrum of current and evolving air and missile 
threats. It is imperative to have comprehensive domain awareness and 
integration within and across the layers of the GDA architecture to 
protect a larger area against more advanced threats. Unfortunately, the 
scope and scale of threats GDA must defend against is likely to make a 
direct adaptation of Israel's IAMD network, including Iron Dome, 
infeasible.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA will use a system-of-systems 
approach leveraging new and existing U.S. missile defense capabilities 
to detect and defend against ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise 
missiles, as well as other next-generation aerial threats from peer, 
near-peer, and rogue adversaries.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    23. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, how much would such adaptations 
cost?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are responsible for 
establishing operational requirements for Golden Dome. While I defer to 
the Department regarding estimated costs, and the adaptation of Israeli 
systems is likely infeasible, the commands will continue to work with 
the Golden Dome Direct Reporting Program Manager to support the 
Department's effort in delivering a capable and cost-effective defense 
system.
    Lieutenant General Collins. he Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    24. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what is the estimated timeline 
to field an operational system for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. The President's has directed the Department to 
deliver a capability within 3 years, and NORAD and USNORTHCOM are 
supporting the Golden Dome Direct Reporting Program Manager and the 
Services efforts to meet that directive.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future program schedules.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    25. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, how confident are you that an 
operational system for Golden Dome could be fielded within 5 years?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I am quite confident that 5 years is an achievable 
timeline. USNORTHCOM and NORAD currently operate the Ground-based 
Midcourse Defense system and the National Capital Region Integrated Air 
Defense System, both of which will integrate with additional Golden 
Dome capabilities, and additional capabilities are available now and 
ready for operational use when funded. Other capabilities require some 
technical development but have a viable path for delivery within 5 
years, within the directed timeline.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future program schedules.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    26. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, are you aware of any analysis of 
alternatives or similar studies completed or underway for the Golden 
Dome program? Please provide any completed analyses and estimated 
timelines for competing analyses underway.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes. In collaboration with the Missile Defense 
Agency and the Services, NORAD and USNORTHCOM have supported past 
studies and analysis, including Air and Cruise Missile Defense of the 
Homeland, layered homeland defense, and ballistic missile defense 
sensor architecture. The Department is leveraging those analyses to 
help inform the Golden Dome for America (GDA) architecture development 
and is continuing to conduct analysis in support of the GDA 
architecture and its cost. I would defer to the Department regarding 
the release of those analyses and timelines for those currently 
underway.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA architecture is being built on 
a foundation of over 40 years of development and fielding of U.S. 
missile defenses and recent successful demonstrations of missile 
defense capabilities protecting allies and partners. In the near term, 
the fiscal year 2025 reconciliation package has identified resources 
that would buttress this existing foundation with additional studies 
and analysis.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    27. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, in the 1990's, it was determined 
that space-based missile defense (SDI or ``Star Wars'') was too 
technically challenging and prohibitively expensive. What are the 
greatest technological challenges facing a Golden Dome system?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I believe the key technological challenges for a 
Golden Dome for America system include integrating multiple defense 
layers (such as radars, interceptors, and directed energy) across vast 
geographical areas; handling the high cost of interceptors versus 
relatively inexpensive threat systems such as UAVs; and ensuring 
resilience against cyberattacks and electronic warfare. The system is 
also likely to require advanced AI for real-time target discrimination 
and coordination, as well as the need to overcome environmental 
limitations such as weather effects on directed energy weapons and 
power requirements for continuous operations. With that said, many of 
the NORAD and USNORTHCOM requirements for homeland defense, including 
increased all-domain awareness, are currently available and could be 
integrated into existing defense networks within a zero-to-three-year 
timeframe.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA will use a system-of-systems 
approach that leverages new and existing U.S. missile defense 
capabilities to deter and defend against ballistic, hypersonic, and 
advanced cruise missile, and other next-generation aerial threats from 
peer, near-peer, and non-State adversaries. Large-scale integration and 
next-gen capability investment across the DoW will be required to 
successfully develop and deploy GDA.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    28. Senator Warren. Lieutenant General Collins and Lieutenant Gen 
Rasch, former Under Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering 
Michael Griffin and former Deputy Under Secretary of Defense for 
Research and Engineering Lisa Porter, who both served during the first 
Trump administration, contend that the MDA is not structured to lead an 
effort of Golden Dome's magnitude. Do you agree with their assessment?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
schedules. MDA was identified as the systems-of-systems engineering and 
global test execution lead for the integrated GDA architecture.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    29. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, former officials Michael Griffin 
and Lisa Porter also contend that the Golden Dome program management 
should not be performed within any existing agency. Do you agree, and 
if so, should a new agency be created to manage this program?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. While I respectfully defer to the Department on 
matters of policy, NORAD and USNORTHCOM are committed to working 
closely with the Direct Reporting Program Manager and other partners to 
define requirements for Golden Dome capabilities in support of homeland 
defense.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA will work directly with the 
Director of GDA to manage GDA.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    30. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, do you believe Golden Dome would 
require an entirely new approach to command and control?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. The increased scope and scale of the air and 
missile defense mission will place a greater emphasis on timely and 
seamless command and control integration across geographic regions, 
mission areas, the Interagency, and with Allies and Partners. I do not 
believe this would represent an entirely new approach to command and 
control. The Department has considered this more expansive approach in 
the Joint All-Domain Command and Control concept, as well as the work 
being done for the defense of Guam. NORAD and USNORTHCOM, along with 
all of our partners, will leverage these efforts to the greatest extent 
possible in the command and control approach to Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future architectures.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    31. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, is there a possibility that 
adversaries who see the U.S. investment in a Golden Dome begin to adapt 
their offensive forces in response?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, U.S. adversaries are likely to adapt their 
offensive forces in response to the U.S. Golden Dome initiative in an 
attempt to ensure their ability to hold the U.S. Homeland at risk.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA is required because peer and 
near-peer competitors of the United States have been advancing their 
offensive capabilities for decades in order to hold us at risk and/or 
prevail during armed conflict.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    32. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, have DOD or U.S. intelligence 
agencies assessed how our potential adversaries are likely to respond 
to the development and deployment of Golden Dome? If so, please 
summarize what the DOD or intelligence agencies found to be the likely 
reaction to the Golden Dome options.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, the National Intelligence Council published a 
Top Secret-level assessment of China's and Russia's likely reactions to 
the United States Golden Dome initiative on March 12, 2025. The 
product, serial number NICM 2025-07785-A, was coordinated with multiple 
DOD agencies and commands--including NORAD and USNORTHCOM.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA is required because peer and 
near-peer competitors of the United States have been advancing their 
offensive capabilities for decades in order to hold us at risk and/or 
prevail during armed conflict.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    33. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, if DOD does not have an 
assessment of how potential adversaries would respond, when will DOD 
conduct one?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Multiple DOD agencies and commands--including 
NORAD and USNORTHCOM--coordinated on and concurred with the National 
Intelligence Council's March 12, 2025 assessment of China's and 
Russia's likely reactions to the United States Golden Dome initiative 
(NICM 2025-07785-A). In addition, the Secret-level version of the 
Defense Intelligence Agency's February 19, 2025 assessment on 
``Strategic Missile Threats to the U.S. Homeland'' (DIA--F--25I85-C) 
contains a similar assessment of our adversaries' likely reactions.
    Lieutenant General Collins. I defer to my colleagues in the 
Intelligence Community when an assessment should be conducted. When it 
is, MDA will participate as requested and appropriate.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    34. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, once DOD has an assessment of 
how potential adversaries would respond, will you commit to sharing 
those results with the Senate Armed Services Committee?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. The National Intelligence Council's Top Secret-
level assessment of China's and Russia's likely reactions to the United 
States Golden Dome initiative (NICM 2025-07785-A, published March 12, 
2025) is available on CIA's ``WIRe'' website. The Secret-level version 
of the Defense Intelligence Agency's February 19, 2025 assessment on 
Strategic Missile Threats to the U.S. Homeland (DIA--F--25I85-C) 
contains a similar assessment of our adversaries' likely reactions 
(beginning on page 31) and is available on DIA's ``Source'' website. 
Additionally, I commit to sharing my perspective on how USNORTHCOM 
intends to counter the threat.
    Lieutenant General Collins. I will share my views on the 
assessment's implications for MDA's efforts on missile defense 
capability development.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    35. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, do the architecture options and 
cost estimates provided by the DOD to the President take into 
consideration the need to respond to the likely reactions of potential 
adversaries to each option?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. While I defer to the Department regarding its 
development of cost estimates, NORAD and USNORTHCOM are certainly 
considering current and future threats in developing requirements for 
the Golden Dome architecture.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    36. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, how much does DOD estimate a missile 
from Iran, North Korea, Russia, China, and any other potential 
adversary costs to produce?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    37. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General Collins, and 
Lieutenant General Rasch, how much more expensive is a U.S. interceptor 
for Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) (whether the existing 
ground-based interceptor, the sea-based SM-3 Block IIA, or the future 
Next-Generation Interceptor) compared to Chinese or Russian ICBMs, 
roughly?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I would respectfully defer to the intelligence 
community for information regarding the cost of adversary weapons 
systems. However, NORAD and USNORTHCOM are well aware of the need to 
pursue lower-cost defensive capabilities and remain ahead of the ``cost 
curve'' as competitor capability and capacity increases.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The cost of defensive interceptors is 
greater than the cost of adversary ICBMs. The cost of allowing a 
nuclear weapon to detonate in a population center, however, would be 
hundreds of thousands of fatalities and hundreds of billions of dollars 
of damage. The existing GBIs' cost is on the order of $100 million per 
round (including cost of the recent Service Life Extension Program). 
Next Generation Interceptors are estimated to cost on the order of $140 
million per round, and SM-3 Block IIA are on the order of $25 million 
per round.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Missile Defense Agency.

    38. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, DOD's 2024 Annual Report on 
Military and Security Developments Involving the People's Republic of 
China states at several points that China ``may be exploring 
development of conventionally armed intercontinental range missile 
systems''. General Guillot has testified before the House that China 
may be developing a conventionally armed ICBM. Why would the existing 
Ground-based Midcourse Defense system, designed to defend against the 
North Korean ICBM threat, not be sufficient for addressing this Chinese 
conventionally armed ICBM problem?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. The current Ground-based Midcourse Defense system 
was designed and deployed to defend against ICBM threats from rogue 
nations such as North Korea. China's advanced long-range missiles 
create geometry, capability, and capacity challenges that North Korean 
missiles do not match. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are working with the 
Department to ensure that the capabilities of the Golden Dome, 
including the Next Generation Interceptor, are able to defend against 
the full spectrum of current and future intelligence-assessed threats.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The missile defense system can engage 
and destroy a limited number of nuclear or conventional ICBMs launched 
from China but would become depleted when faced with a quantity of 
adversary ICBMs larger than that of North Korea.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Missile Defense Agency.

    39. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, did the DOD assess how each 
architecture option provided to the president for Golden Dome is 
compatible with the president's stated goal of seeking 
``denuclearization'' agreements with Russia and China? If so, please 
describe what the Department's conclusion was about the effect Golden 
Dome would have on this Presidential priority.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Office of the 
Undersecretary of Defense for Policy regarding the Department's 
assessments. NORAD and USNORTHCOM, along with USSPACECOM, the Missile 
Defense Agency, the Services, and other stakeholders, provided input 
and advice to the Department throughout the development of the Golden 
Dome for America architecture and remain fully aligned with the 
Department's approach to defending the Homeland.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Consistent with one of the President's 
stated policy goals for pursuing GDA, our missile defenses will help to 
ensure our Nation's second-strike capability, thus diminishing an 
adversary's perceived benefit of using nuclear weapons to attack the 
United States. Decreasing the utility of nuclear weapons can put us on 
a path toward denuclearization.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    40. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, the Congressional Budget Office 
(CBO) recently estimated that it would cost between $160 and $540 
billion to deploy and maintain for 20 years a boost-phase interceptor 
constellation that would protect the United States from the North 
Korean threat of a decade ago. The CBO warns, however, that costs of a 
program relevant to today would likely be higher. Do you still believe 
boost-phase intercept is the most cost-effective way to utilize space-
based interceptors?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department and U.S. 
Space Command regarding the costs related to space-based capabilities.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by 
NORTHCOM.

    41. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, in the defense portion of the 
reconciliation bill, the majority has proposed to appropriate $25 
billion for Golden Dome missile defense programs. Because some of these 
programs, notably the $5.6 billion proposal for a space-based intercept 
capability, are entirely new concepts, it is not clear that a large 
influx of research, development, test, and evaluation funding in the 
first fiscal year would be appropriate. What are DOD's plans for 
allocating the reconciliation funds, if they materialize, over the next 
4 years?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department regarding 
budgetary decisions. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are responsible for 
establishing operational requirements and support the Golden Dome 
Direct Reporting Program Manager, the Services, and the Department as 
they assess resource allocation for Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    42. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, when do you expect to have an 
independent cost estimate for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Historically, obtaining an independent cost 
estimate (ICE) for a Major Defense Acquisition Program (MDAP) typically 
takes between 6 to 12 months, though the timeline can vary depending on 
the program's complexity and maturity. NORAD and USNORTHCOM will 
continue to work with the Department to support a timely ICE.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    Defense Program Oversight
    43. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, do you agree that generally any 
new major defense program should receive an independent cost estimate 
before Congress funds the program?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes. Independent cost estimates are essential for 
ensuring new major defense programs are financially viable and 
accountable. They provide a robust foundation to make informed funding 
decisions, promote transparency, prevent waste, and help ensure 
taxpayer money is spent wisely on defense priorities. Without them, 
there is a heightened risk of moving forward with programs with 
unrealistic cost expectations, leading to future financial challenges.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Major defense programs should receive 
an independent cost estimate before Congress funds the program, 
contingent on the severity and timeline of the threat the program is 
addressing.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. I believe that communication with 
congressional stakeholders is a critical piece to the success of 
defense programs. In the case of the Guam Defense System, as new major 
defense program, joint cost estimates were created in coordination with 
OSD CAPE. In addition, OSD CAPE completed an independent assessment of 
the GDS total cost and integrated master schedule.

    44. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, do you agree that a 
Congressional Budget Office cost estimate of a major defense program 
would help inform decisionmakers at DOD and in Congress on whether a 
program is worth pursuing?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, a Congressional Budget Office cost estimate 
of a major defense program is helpful for decisionmakers at both the 
DOD and in Congress. NORAD and USNORTHCOM will support the Department 
in its effort to appropriately inform decisionmakers both internally 
and in Congress as they determine which programs are worth pursuing.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The Department of Defense often utilizes 
independent entities in the development of programs and to support 
milestone decisions.

    45. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, how does independent technical 
expertise in areas such as nuclear and space science benefit your 
office?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Independent technical expertise in nuclear and 
space science is indispensable for enhancing homeland defense. It 
provides objective analysis, advanced technology development, and risk 
mitigation strategies to help ensure the U.S. remains prepared for 
emerging threats in both the nuclear and space domains. From missile 
defense and space security to nuclear deterrence and threat 
assessments, this expertise supports the development of comprehensive, 
resilient, and effective defense strategies to protect the U.S. 
Homeland.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The independent technical expertise 
provides another perspective to our organic agency nuclear and space 
science expertise. The independent team is able to leverage their 
knowledge of supporting programs outside of MDA offices and provide our 
team insight into how other entities address similar issues.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO utilizes independent experts 
at Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab and MITRE to support 
modeling and simulation and systems engineering for both exo-
atmospheric and endo-atmospheric missile engagements.

    46. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, Acting Assistant Secretary Yaffe 
stated in the hearing that the President still has to make some 
decisions on the missile defense architecture and that the architecture 
will be released along with the DOD budget. Will a report on the final 
missile defense architecture be released by DOD or any other government 
agency? If so, please describe what level of classification the report 
will be released at and whether there will be an unclassified summary.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department on the 
release of DOD-level reporting. NORAD and USNORTHCOM execute the 
missile defense missions but are not directly involved in authoring or 
releasing potential reports on future architecture, but both commands 
are ready to provide support, expertise, and advice as additional 
guidance becomes available.
    Lieutenant General Collins. If a report is directed by Congress, 
DoW will be responsible for releasing the final product. The 
classification of the product will be as required.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    47. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, will you commit to voluntarily 
complying with information requests and deadlines set by the DOD 
Inspector General or your service-specific Inspector General on Golden 
Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, I will comply with any Inspector General 
requests received regarding Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. Yes.

    48. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, will you commit to voluntarily 
complying with information requests and deadlines set by the Government 
Accountability Office on Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, I will comply with Government Accountability 
Office requests received regarding Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. Yes.

    49. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, will you commit to voluntarily 
complying with information and testimony requests by Congress on Golden 
Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. Yes, I will comply with requests for information 
and testimony by Congress regarding Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. Yes.

    50. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, has an Inspector General or the 
Government Accountability Office reached out to your offices about 
Golden Dome? If so, please describe the nature of that outreach.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. No, NORAD and USNORTHCOM has not been contacted by 
an Inspector General or the Government Accountability Office regarding 
Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. No.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO has not received requests or 
communications from the Inspector General or Government Accountability 
Office on Golden Dome. The Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

                   golden dome conflicts of interest
    51. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, which private sector entities 
has DOD consulted regarding the Golden Dome program? Please provide a 
complete list of all outside entities consulted.
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department regarding 
private-sector consulting it may have conducted.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The GDA Office is responsible for all 
information concerning the Department of War's activities on Golden 
Dome.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO has not consulted industry or 
outside entity engagements regarding Golden Dome as the JPO is not 
directly involved in the development of GDA.

    52. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what role, if any, has SpaceX, 
Anduril, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, L3Harris, or any of the company's 
officers or representatives had in developing or advising on 
requirements for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM (N&NC) establish operational 
requirements based on our assigned missions. While industry can present 
capability options to address those requirements, the commands are in 
support of the Golden Dome Direct Reporting Program Manager, the 
Services, and Missile Defense Agency as the organizations tasked with 
determining the best capabilities to meet requirements. NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM do not have any visibility on the role, if any, defense 
contractors have in developing or advising on Golden Dome requirements.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO has not participated in 
engagements or conversations with SpaceX, Anduril, Palantir, Lockheed 
Martin, or L3 Harris regarding Golden Dome as the JPO is not directly 
involved in the development of GDA.

    53. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what information have your 
offices received from SpaceX, Anduril, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, 
L3Harris, or any of the company's officers or representatives regarding 
Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM have received briefings from 
Anduril, Raytheon, and Northrop Grumman, while other companies are 
scheduled to present on either the Golden Dome for America (GDA) writ 
large or various components in support of the GDA.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The listed companies responded to MDA's 
GDA RFI last spring. DOW and MDA routinely receive unsolicited 
proposals from companies with ideas for new capabilities.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO is not a direct part of 
Golden Dome and has not discussed GDA's development with industry 
partners.

    54. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, has there been any formal or 
informal involvement in the process of developing requirements for 
Golden Dome or awarding Golden Dome contracts by Elon Musk, or by 
individuals working for or on behalf of SpaceX, Anduril, Palantir, 
Lockheed Martin, or L3Harris, or any Government Department of 
Efficiency affiliated employees?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. While N&NC have no acquisition authority for the 
GDA, we have and will continue to work with the GDA Direct Reporting 
Program Manager, the Services, and Missile Defense Agency to determine 
the best capabilities to meet requirements.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO has not participated in 
engagements or conversations whether formal or informal with SpaceX, 
Anduril, Palantir, Lockheed Martin, or L3 Harris regarding Golden Dome 
as the JPO is not directly involved in the development of GDA.

    55. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, has your office or any DOD 
office you are aware of been consulted by or in discussion with Elon 
Musk or any of his representatives regarding the Golden Dome program?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. NORAD and USNORTHCOM have not discussed Golden 
Dome development with Mr. Musk or his representatives.
    Lieutenant General Collins. No.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO has not participated in 
engagements with Mr. Musk or anyone acting on his behalf.

    56. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, according to press reports, DOD 
is considering a ``subscription model'' to acquire SpaceX services. 
What cost analysis has DOD performed related to its consideration of 
this model?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department regarding 
acquisitions and related cost analysis. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are not 
involved in specific acquisition approaches.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO does not currently have plans 
to acquire SpaceX services.

    57. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, to the extent that DOD has 
performed the cost analyses mentioned in the question above, what have 
they shown?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department, as NORAD 
and USNORTHCOM are not involved in this decision.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. The GDS JPO does not currently have plans 
to acquire SpaceX services and as such no cost analysis for that 
procurement have been conducted.

    58. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, according to press reports a 
subscription model could cause DOD to be ``locked into a subscription 
and lose control over its ongoing development and pricing.'' What are 
the long-term cost risks of a subscription model?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department, as NORAD 
and USNORTHCOM are not involved in this decision.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. Neither the GDS JPO nor the Rapid 
Capabilities and Critical Technologies Office (RCCTO) utilize 
subscription models for our programs.

    59. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what is DOD's intellectual 
property rights strategy for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department, as NORAD 
and USNORTHCOM do not have a role in determining intellectual property 
rights strategies related to Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The DOD Instruction 5010.44 requires 
DoW programs to have an intellectual property (IP) strategy. For GDA 
efforts, the Director of GDA is required to manage a robust IP strategy 
to identify and manage the full spectrum of IP and related matters 
(e.g., technical data and computer software deliverables, patented 
technologies, and license rights) from the inception of a program and 
updated throughout entire product life cycle--initially as part of the 
acquisition strategy, and during the operations and support phase as 
part of the life-cycle sustainment plan.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    60. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, will the DOD provide an 
assessment of the cost and readiness risks associated with a 
``subscription-based'' model for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department as NORAD 
and USNORTHCOM are not involved in determining costs or risks 
associated with this reported model.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    61. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, what is the cost estimate for 
the ``subscription-based'' model for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department as I have 
not been made aware of the DOD cost estimate for a ``subscription-
based'' model.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

    62. Senator Warren. Ms. Yaffe, General Guillot, Lieutenant General 
Collins, and Lieutenant General Rasch, which companies are most likely 
to benefit from an accelerated timeline for Golden Dome?
    Ms. Yaffe did not respond in time for printing. When received, 
answer will be retained in Committee files.
    General Guillot. I respectfully defer to the Department, as I do 
not have specific information about contracts related to Golden Dome.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The Director of GDA is responsible for 
establishing requirements that will inform future cost estimates and 
architecture options.
    Lieutenant General Rasch. This question is best answered by the 
Golden Dome program office. While there are potential synergies between 
the two, as it stands, the Guam Defense System and Golden Dome for 
America (GDA) are separate efforts and the JPO is not directly involved 
in the development of GDA.

                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                                sm-3 ib
    63. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, fiscal year 2024 
funding and supplemental dollars for SM-3 IB were available nearly 12 
months ago. When did MDA re-engage the prime contractor for missile 
production?
    Lieutenant General Collins. On December 29, 2022, the Missile 
Defense Agency (MDA) released a Request for Proposal (RFP) for a 
combined SM-3 Block (Blk) IB/SM-3 Blk IIA fiscal year (FY) 2023-2025 
procurement contract. On July 11, 2023, the prime contractor submitted 
their initial proposal to MDA, but it was not fully compliant. 
Following termination of new production in the fiscal year 2025 
President's Budget request, initial expenditure of Blk IA/IB missiles 
in combat, and the receipt of supplemental funding to replace those 
missiles, MDA provided the prime contractor with an updated All-Up 
Round (AUR) Blk IB procurement RFP on August 16, 2024. In that RFP, MDA 
requested pricing for a minimum quantity of 10 AURs and a maximum 
quantity of 78 AURs. Since that time, we have remained engaged with the 
prime contractor to identify and mitigate production gaps and to 
accelerate the proposal and award timeline.

    64. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, extended delays in 
contracting have implications for the industrial base of any program. 
MDA recently stated that the SM-3 IB suppliers are in production. Are 
all SM-3 IB suppliers currently in production?
    Lieutenant General Collins. No. The fiscal year 2019-2023 Multiyear 
Procurement (MYP) contract for SM-3 Blk IB remains in progress, with 
final deliveries planned for August 2026. Several suppliers have 
already delivered their components in support of the MYP contract. Many 
of these suppliers also deliver the same or similar components to other 
Department of War programs and maintain a current production line.

    65. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, did any SM-3 IB 
suppliers fall out of qualification during the period of program 
termination?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA is aware that production has 
been completed for several suppliers on the prior contract, and they 
will require restart and possibly requalification. We have worked with 
the prime contractor to award two Undefinitized Contract Actions (UCA). 
These UCAs will allow the SM-3 Blk IB supplier base to begin material 
procurement and assembly in advance of the fully definitized contract, 
using fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 funds. We anticipate 
awarding that contract by the end of this calendar year. MDA will 
complete a risk-based evaluation of the requalification process, 
balancing cost, delivery timeline, and technical risk, to determine if 
they can apply extensions or waivers on a case-by-case basis.

    66. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, if so, what are the 
costs and schedule delays caused to the program by these delays and 
qualification lapses?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The costs associated with production 
gaps have been estimated by the prime contractor to be as high as $180 
million. The cost estimates included assumptions about requalification 
requirements that may be reduced following case-by-case evaluation of 
requalification requirements. Requalification of production lines is 
not currently driving the production schedule. The primary schedule 
driver for production is an obsolescence effort with a resulting 33-
month gap in deliveries between the current multiyear procurement 
contract and the follow-on fiscal year 2024/2025 contract. MDA and the 
prime contractor are working to reduce the timeline for the 
obsolescence effort and bring delivery schedule to the left.

    67. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what is the 
production restart cost associated with the continuation of the SM-3 IB 
program?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA does not expect any explicit 
production restart costs other than those associated with supplier 
requalification and/or obsolescence efforts, as discussed above.

    68. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what are the Non-
Recurring Engineering (NRE) costs associated with the termination?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The prime contractor's Not-To-Exceed 
estimate for the NRE associated with AUR procurement is $180 million. 
The government anticipates the final NRE costs will be lower but is 
dependent upon the final proposal and subject to negotiation of final 
cost.

    69. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what percentage of 
the NRE could have been mitigated with a 2025 Undefinitized Contract 
Action (UCA) award?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA has awarded two UCAs in support 
of SM-3 Blk IB production. The first was for MK 72 Boosters, MK 104 
Dual Thrust Rocket Motors, and Integrated Detector Assemblies and was 
awarded in February 2025. The second UCA was for up to 55 AURs awarded 
in May 2025. Definitization of these UCAs is planned by the end of this 
calendar year. MDA will not be able to estimate the percentage of NRE 
that will be mitigated by the use of these UCAs until after the 
contract is definitized. The use of UCAs did give the prime contractor 
the ability to begin production activities approximately 9 months 
earlier than would otherwise have been possible.

    70. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what is the MDA plan 
to utilize UCA awards for the SM-3IB program in the future?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA awarded two Undefinitized 
Contract Actions (UCA) to support fiscal year 2024/2025 SM-3 Blk IB 
procurement. MDA awarded the first UCA in February 2025, for MK 72 
Boosters, MK 104 Dual Thrust Rocket Motors, and Integrated Detector 
Assemblies. MDA awarded the second UCA in May 2025, for up to 55 All-Up 
Rounds (AUR). MDA plans to definitize these UCAs by the end of this 
calendar year. These UCAs will mitigate production gap risk and enable 
AUR delivery earlier. In the future, MDA will continue to evaluate the 
risks and benefits of using UCAs to accelerate outcomes and reduce Non-
recurring Engineering (NRE) costs for SM-3 procurement.

    71. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, the Committee is 
aware that the decision to terminate led the prime contractor to turn 
off significant advance company funding for the program that would have 
bridged fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2024. How many missiles does 
the NRE value equate to at planned unit costs for fiscal year 2024/
2025?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The prime contractor has estimated the 
NRE cost at $180 million. Pending the final negotiated and definitized 
AUR per unit cost, this NRE cost equates to approximately 10 AURs.

    72. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what is the MDA's 
plan to accelerate production and lower costs using Long Lead 
procurement, instead of relying on industry funding, in order to recoup 
schedule loss?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The SM-3 program cannot utilize Advance 
Procurement (Long Lead-time Items) as defined in Department of War 
Financial Management Regulations (FMR) because no component, part, or 
material lead times exceed the life of the appropriation (FMR Vol 2A 
Chapter 1 section 2.2.3.3). SM-3 will utilize Economic Order Quantity 
in conjunction with future Multi-year Procurements (FMR Vol 2A Chapter 
1 section 2.2.3.4). MDA awarded two UCAs to replace industry funding, 
which will allow the prime contractor and its suppliers to begin 
material procurement and assembly. These UCAs should allow MDA to 
recoup approximately 9 months compared to traditional contracting 
processes. An obsolescence issue, not covered under the UCAs, drives 
the first delivery of AURs. MDA awarded a separate contract action for 
that effort in June 2025. MDA and the prime contractor will work with 
the supplier to accelerate that effort and bring first delivery 
forward.

    73. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, MDA's termination 
decision also interrupted planned improvements to add capability and 
address obsolescence. How are those costs being addressed in the fiscal 
year 2024/2025 contract?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The fiscal year 2024/2025 contract will 
not address added capability. As a result of the Department's decision 
to terminate, MDA is making several life-of-type buys for obsolete 
components to support the maximum quantity of AURs (78) specified in 
the Request for Proposal. These obsolescence mitigation efforts have 
been ongoing in parallel with the prime contractor's production 
contract proposal efforts. A separate contract covers obsolescence 
mitigation, and the AUR unit cost does not reflect it.

    74. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, the committee notes 
that the Director indicated that the SM-3 IB program will continue in 
production ``for years into the future'' during his testimony before 
the committee. How many SM-3 IB missiles does MDA intend to request in 
fiscal year 2026?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    75. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, how many missiles 
annually will MDA request across the future years defense program 
(FYDP)?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The fiscal year 2026 President's Budget 
request does not include additional procurement of SM-3 Blk IB missiles 
but does include procurement of 12 SM-3 Blk IIA missiles. The fiscal 
year 2026 President's Budget request only includes fiscal year 2026 
procurement, not FYDP.

    76. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, the Director noted 
that there was no plan with the termination of SM-3 IB to fill the 
mission set and suggested the plan was to fill that mission set with 
SM-3 IIA. What are the distinct missions that both missiles do that are 
not common?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    77. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what mission sets 
does MDA give up with the termination of SM-3 IB and a planned reliance 
on SM-3 IIA?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    78. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, the Director noted 
that there was no plan with the termination of SM-3 IB to fill the 
mission set and suggested the plan was to fill that mission set with 
SM-3 IIA. Are there distinct missions that both missiles do that are 
not common?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    79. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what mission sets 
what MDA giving up with the termination of SM-3 IB and a planned 
reliance on SM-3 IIA?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    80. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, MDA did not request 
additional SM-3 IIAs in fiscal year 2025. What is the outlook for SM-3 
IIA across the FYDP?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The response contains sensitive 
information and will be provided to the requestor by other means.

    81. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, what is MDA's plan 
for annual production?
    Lieutenant General Collins. The fiscal year 2026 President's Budget 
request does not include additional SM-3 Blk IB procurement but does 
include procurement of 12 SM-3 Blk IIA missiles.

    82. Senator Kelly. Lieutenant General Collins, has MDA revisited 
inventory requirements for SM-3 IB and SM-3 IIA? Please provide the 
latest inventory requirements and current inventories.
    Lieutenant General Collins. The MDA monitors the Navy Munitions 
Requirements Process (NMRP) for the SM-3 Blk IA/IB and SM-3 Blk IIA. 
The NMRP serves as the only formal capacity requirement for SM-3 
missiles and accounts for new procurement, sustainment 
(recertification/repair/increased service life), operational 
expenditures, flight test expenditures, demilitarization, and unplanned 
losses. The NMRP is classified and updated annually and establishes the 
program's acquisition objective. The classified SM-3 Block IA/IB and 
IIA total munitions requirement numbers have been sent via other means.


 
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 
               2026 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, MAY 20, 2025

                      United States Senate,
                  Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES AND DEPARTMENT 
                  OF DEFENSE NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAMS

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 4:46 p.m. in room 
SR-222, Russell Senate Office Building, Senator Deb Fischer 
(Chairwoman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members Present: Senators Fischer, Rounds, King, 
and Kelly.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. Welcome. The hearing will come to order. 
Welcome to our distinguished witnesses. Thank you for appearing 
before us today, and we look forward to hearing your testimony. 
This Subcommittee frequently hears about the threats that we 
will face in the coming years. We know that Russia and China 
are modernizing and diversifying their nuclear forces. We know 
that these nations have a No Limits partnership and are working 
together more closely than we ever anticipated, and we know 
that our modernization efforts have slipped.
    There are many reasons for these delays, but this afternoon 
I want to hear from our witnesses about what the Department of 
Energy (DOE) and Department of Defense (DOD) are doing to move 
forward with nuclear modernization. Today we welcome two panels 
of witnesses. On our first panel, we have Mr. James J. 
McConnell, and Mr. Roger Jarrell. Did I say that correctly? 
Jarrell, from the National Nuclear Security Administration 
(NNSA) and Admiral William Houston from the Naval Nuclear 
Propulsion Program.
    On our second panel, we have Mr. David Hoagland from NNSA, 
General Thomas Bussiere from Air Force Global Strike Command, 
and Vice Admiral Johnny Wolfe from the Navy Strategic Systems 
Programs. We also have Dr. Brandy Vann, who is performing the 
duties of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Nuclear, 
Chemical, and Biological Defense Policy and Programs.
    The Subcommittee was instrumental in creating that position 
in section 1621 of last year's, National Defense Authorization 
Act (NDAA). We did so because we observed a lack of cleared 
leadership within the office of the Secretary of Defense for 
the nuclear enterprise. I understand the implementation plan 
for Section 1621 has yet to be submitted to Congress. This 
delay does not instill confidence that the department is taking 
these reforms with the seriousness they deserve.
    Before I turn it over to Senator King, I do want to 
congratulate NNSA on completing the first production unit of 
the new B61-13 nuclear bomb, which provides the President with 
additional options to go after harder targets. I look forward 
to hearing more about how NNSA was able to achieve this so 
quickly, and what opportunities exist to take lessons learned 
from manufacturing the B61-13 and apply them to other 
production lines.
    Senator King, you are recognized for any remarks.

             STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS S. KING JR.

    Senator King. Thank you, Madam Chair. I think it's 
important to emphasize at the beginning of this hearing why 
nuclear weapons. Why is it that we have this focus on your 
production of nuclear weapons and also on our strategic 
delivery platforms? It's because of deterrence. The whole idea 
of nuclear weapons is to never have to use them, and they will 
never have to be used as long as our adversaries are convinced 
that if they use nuclear weapons first, they will pay a 
terrible and unacceptable price.
    So I think it's important that we remember the fundamental 
purpose of this whole enterprise, which is to make this country 
safer and to avoid the use of these unthinkable weapons. Every 
year, or probably every 12 months or so, I speak at the launch 
of a new destroyer at Bath Iron Works in Maine, and my remarks 
always have a similar theme, which is we're building these 
ships in the hopes that they will never have to be used in 
conflict, because having them there, having the capability that 
you're responsible for developing is what keeps this country 
safe and avoids the unthinkable, which is a nuclear 
confrontation.
    I am concerned, and I'm sure we will examine these 
questions in during the course of the hearing with issues of 
staffing whether it's at Hanford or at the National Labs or in 
NNSA generally because we can't solve these problems, we can't 
meet the demands that are being placed upon you without the 
people.
    I'm worried that we've lost in the past few months some 
pretty important people, some very capable people, and I want 
to be sure that the expertise that those people carried with 
them is being transferred to new staff coming on, and that 
we're adequately staffing various departments and bureaus in 
order to be sure that we can meet the demands. We're now well 
into the modernization of the nuclear triad with missiles with 
the bomber, with the new Columbia class submarine, but they 
have to have the weapons in order to make them the effective 
deterrent, and that's where NNSA comes in.
    So I'm looking forward to the hearing, and I hope you will 
address issues of staffing and adequacy of staffing because I 
am concerned that that could hobble our ability to meet the 
very high level of demand that we have in the Nuclear 
Modernization Project. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Now I look 
forward to hearing the opening statements from our first 
members of the panel. Mr. McConnell, you are recognized.

   STATEMENT OF JAMES J. McCONNELL, ACTING PRINCIPAL DEPUTY 
                         ADMINISTRATOR

    Mr. McConnell. Chairman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and 
Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to 
provide an update on the Department of Energy's National 
Nuclear Security Administration. With the support of the 
administration in Congress, the NNSA is executing its vital 
National Security missions, which cannot be accomplished 
anywhere else in the U.S. Government.
    Not since the cold war have we had seven simultaneous 
weapon programs in the program of record, and not since the 
Manhattan Project have we so fundamentally overhauled our 
infrastructure. Within these monumental tasks, I'm proud to 
report on some of NNSA's accomplishments. NNSA is 
simultaneously delivering major stockpile modernization 
programs that cover all three legs of the nuclear triad, 
introducing new capabilities for the President to strengthen 
deterrence.
    Noticeably, the first war reserve plutonium pit for the 
W87-1 warhead was produced at Los Alamos National Laboratory in 
October. Last December, the B61-12 Life extension program, 
which improved the B61's safety, security, and reliability 
completed its last production unit. Additionally, NNSA achieved 
the first production unit for the B61-13 just yesterday, almost 
a year ahead of schedule.
    Alongside stockpile modernization efforts, NNSA must design 
new materials for future stockpile needs, certify components, 
and assess the stockpiles condition annually. Our world class 
science and technology capabilities ensure that our stockpile 
is safe, secure, reliable, and effective without underground 
nuclear explosive testing.
    Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory recently installed 
El Capitan, our first exascale computer system for national 
security. It has been benchmarked as the world's fastest 
supercomputer and is running full 3D nuclear weapons 
simulations in support of stockpile stewardship activities.
    Infrastructure modernization across the enterprise is 
required to meet today's needs and provide enduring, flexible, 
and resilient capabilities. To this end, the enterprise 
blueprint aligns timely delivery of specialized infrastructure 
with mission demands over the next 25 years. We are making 
progress on large and small-scale projects. The uranium 
processing facility is now over 70 percent complete with 
operations plan to begin in 2032.
    Reestablishing the capability to produce new plutonium pits 
remains a priority, and we continue to make progress at the Los 
Alamos Plutonium Pit Production Project and the Savannah River 
Plutonium Processing Facility. The Defense Nuclear 
Nonproliferation Program is another key element of our national 
deterrent and helps to keep nuclear and radiological threats as 
far from the U.S. Homeland as possible.
    As the share of nuclear power in the global energy mix 
grows, NNSA facilitates the global deployment of U.S. developed 
nuclear reactors that incorporate the highest standards of 
nuclear safeguards, security, and proliferation resistance. 
This work would not be possible without the dedicated 
professionals of the Federal and contractor workforce.
    We are grateful for Congress's continued support. Thank 
you, and I look forward to your questions.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. McConnell. Mr. Jarrell, 
welcome.

 STATEMENT OF ROGER A. JARRELL II, PRINCIPAL DEPUTY ASSISTANT 
             SECRETARY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT

    Mr. Jarrell. Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and 
Members of the Subcommittee, it's an honor to appear before you 
today.
    The Environmental Management (EM) program was born out of 
the Manhattan Project, a monumental effort that helped end 
World War II and win the cold war. Today, EM is entrusted with 
the largest environmental cleanup effort in the world. Enabled 
by significant investments from Congress, EM is leveraging the 
best of American industry to achieve our mission safely and 
effectively. The budget request reflects the Trump 
administration's strong commitment to the EM mission and what 
it brings to the American people.
    With treatment capabilities in place, addressing 
radioactive tank waste safely, effectively, and efficiently is 
a top priority for EM. Key demolitions are advancing, including 
at West Valley, where the last major building is set to come 
down next month. In Nevada, we're on track to complete legacy 
cleanup over the next 5 years. In addressing legacy waste of 
the past, EM is helping launch a golden era of American energy 
driving innovation and enabling national security missions of 
the future.
    This is vividly on display in Tennessee. Transformational 
progress there is unleashing commercial nuclear power and 
supporting modernization of NNSA's Y12 complex, and the Oak 
Ridge National Lab. Management responsibilities for the 
Savannah River site have been successfully transferred to NNSA. 
In Idaho, our team is helping with key demolitions for naval 
reactors, and this spring we completed key infrastructure 
upgrades at WIP, so the facility can support Department of 
Energy (DOE) missions for years to come.
    As we execute our mission, we're looking forward to ways to 
deliver cleanup commitments more efficiently without 
sacrificing safety or effectiveness. Just last month, we 
completed the 2000-gallon test bed initiative. It's a tool 
that's helping us look at options with the potential to address 
Hanford tank waste sooner, safer, and at less cost to the 
American taxpayers.
    I thank the Subcommittee for this longstanding support of 
our program. I look forward to working with you and to answer 
your questions. Thank you.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. Adam Houston, welcome. 
It's good to see you again.
    Admiral Houston. It's great seeing you too, Chair Fischer.

 STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL WILLIAM J. HOUSTON, USN, DIRECTOR, NAVAL 
                   NUCLEAR PROPULSION PROGRAM

    Admiral Houston. Chair Fischer, Ranking Member King, 
distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today.
    Your support for the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program 
enables my team to design, operate, and maintain the world's 
preeminent force of submarines and aircraft carriers that 
routinely carry out high priority national security missions 
around the world. Through decades of investment in research and 
development, Naval Reactors has delivered the advanced 
technology that assures the U.S. Navy's current dominance. Our 
talented and dedicated people, peerless technology, and state-
of-art facilities, give us the ability to operate our nuclear 
fleet wherever and whenever we choose.
    To continue as the greatest naval force on the planet, we 
must continue to invest if we want to sustain our advantage. 
This year, Naval Reactors will prioritize three key areas and 
two priority projects. First, our most important resource, our 
people. The people within the Naval Nuclear Propulsion 
Enterprise are essential to the management and oversight of the 
important work we perform for our Nation.
    Second, we'll continue to focus on research and development 
of technologies that support our current and future fleets to 
reduce overall costs, shorten construction timelines, and add 
capability to the fleet. Finally, we'll continue to execute 
efforts that modernize and sustain critical infrastructure 
throughout our aging Direct Lithium Extraction (DLE) 
laboratories.
    I'm seeking your continued support for two national 
priority projects. The first is the continued development of 
the reactor plant for the Columbia-class ballistic missile 
submarine, directly supporting the Navy's number one 
acquisition priority. The second project is continued 
construction of the Navy Spent Fuel Handling Facility in Idaho, 
which enables long-term reliable processing of spent fuel from 
the Navy's nuclear fleet.
    We continue to experience challenges with this project, but 
I've been to the site multiple times in the last year, and 
progress is visible. In closing, your strong enduring support 
enables the Naval reactors to succeed and continue to excel 
over 76 years beyond the early days of Admiral Rickover. I 
respectfully urge your continued support across our efforts 
this year. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral William Houston 
follows:]

       Prepared Statement by Statement of Admiral William Houston
    Chair Fischer, Ranking Member King, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you 
today to discuss Naval Reactors. Your continued, strong support for the 
mission of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program enables the United 
States' nuclear Navy to maintain and expand the maritime dominance our 
Nation has secured for many decades.
    Naval Reactors continues to embody the foundational principles and 
standards of excellence set forth by Admiral Rickover over 76 years 
ago. Within my role, I routinely interact with our experts across the 
naval nuclear enterprise, directly supervise our dedicated laboratories 
and related work at our nuclear capable shipyards, and ensure safe and 
effective execution of the Program's cradle-to-grave responsibilities. 
As part of my annual appearance before the subcommittee, I want to 
assure you that the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program is well positioned 
for the challenges ahead. On any given day, our Naval Reactors team is 
providing continuous support for a globally deployed force while 
maintaining an eye on future requirements and ensuring our position as 
the world's premier fighting force.
    Naval Reactors' congressional support and the trust of the American 
people has been steady throughout our 76+ years of service. That 
support has positioned us well, but we will not rest on our existing 
reputation or processes, as the world continues to change around us. 
Naval Reactors must outpace that change in all aspects of naval nuclear 
propulsion and the Program is committed to maximizing the resources 
provided by the American people to make that happen.
    As part of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program's responsibilities, 
we train every nuclear operator that serves onboard our nuclear-powered 
ships. I have interviewed hundreds of officer candidates in my first 
year as the Director and I am routinely impressed with the young, 
talented and energetic candidates who sit across from me. When I talk 
with commanding officers returning from deployment, there is a 
consistent message that the propulsion plants are performing very well 
and are highly reliable. It is the combination of willing, capable 
experts and the finest technology in the world that sets the framework 
for the future of naval nuclear propulsion.
    I have established three pillars for the Naval Nuclear Propulsion 
program to focus on in the year ahead: our mission, our people, and our 
foundation. Our mission centers on ensuring the nuclear powered Navy is 
increasingly ready to fight today. That fight could include not only 
traditional weapons and combat systems, but also a hybrid mix of new, 
ambiguous threats. Our nuclear Navy must be ready to respond.
    ``People, not organizations, get things done,'' at Naval Reactors, 
and throughout the naval nuclear enterprise, we live this mantra on a 
daily basis. Our flat organizational construct enables and encourages 
seamless connections with our Fleet Sailors, public and private 
shipyards, the Navy and Department of Energy civilian workforce, and 
our Naval Nuclear Laboratory subject matter experts. As I will outline 
later in this testimony, our cadre of highly trained, educated and 
experienced professionals is keeping the US Navy ahead of competitors. 
Together, our people build and maintain the nuclear Navy, operate our 
dedicated research laboratories, train operators, utilize our nuclear 
infrastructure to support the Fleet, and ensure safe disposition of our 
spent naval nuclear fuel. Your partnership and leadership, together 
with the Department of Energy and the Navy is needed now, more than 
ever, as we design, manufacture and deliver warfighting ships that will 
power our fleet and protect the national security of the United States 
for the rest of this century and beyond.
    Finally, Naval Reactors must solidify and reinforce our existing 
foundation, including the logistical frameworks we rely on to design, 
build, maintain and dispose of the nuclear powered fleet. While our 
continued success relies heavily on that foundation, we must keep an 
eye on the horizon. Through advanced development of cutting-edge 
technology, new materials and innovative designs, we continue to 
shepherd the naval nuclear industrial base while maintaining our high 
standards and delivering new capabilities.
    Looking forward, we are increasingly aware of our adversaries' 
ambitions and the nature of new threats to our national defense both 
above and below the sea. Our actions today in executing cradle-to-grave 
responsibility for naval nuclear propulsion will impact the security 
and prosperity of our Nation for generations and our supremacy cannot 
be taken for granted. Naval Reactors will ensure our mission, people 
and foundation can efficiently meet the challenges the Nation has 
entrusted us with.
                        naval reactors overview
    This Committee's support has enabled Naval Reactors to continue to 
power maritime dominance and preserve our record of safely operating 
and maintaining our ships, while protecting personnel, the public and 
the environment. We accomplish this through sharply focused regulatory 
oversight of all aspects of the Program, documented in annual 
performance reports available via the Department of Energy webpage. 
Your support has been essential to the design, development, production, 
and proving out of manufacturability of the Columbia-class propulsion 
plant, ongoing construction of the Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility 
in Idaho, and recent resumption of training at our prototype research 
and training reactor at the Kesselring Site in New York. In the last 
year, we have made substantial progress with construction and assembly 
of Columbia-class life-of-ship cores which are in serial production, 
with the second and third ship cores currently being built.
    We will continue to meet current and near-term commitments, but we 
are constantly investing and planning for the future of naval nuclear 
propulsion. For example, Naval Reactors remains engaged with DOE and 
NNSA leadership to ensure a future uranium enrichment capability will 
support national security requirements, including naval nuclear 
propulsion, into the next century. Through the support of Congress, we 
continue to develop and pursue advanced technologies and recapitalize 
infrastructure across all four of our Naval Nuclear Laboratory sites. 
The Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho includes the Expended Core 
Facility (ECF), which provides the capability to manage and examine 
spent naval nuclear fuel, and materials irradiated in the Advanced Test 
Reactor. The ECF is over 60 years old, and Naval Reactors is 
transitioning its capabilities in stages, starting with spent fuel 
management, which will take place within the Naval Spent Fuel Handling 
Facility by the early 2030's. Naval Reactors is also beginning crucial 
design and scoping work on the second infrastructure project that will 
transition spent naval nuclear fuel examinations out of the ECF. As a 
continuation of our phased approach, a future irradiation testing 
capability will be vital to the Naval Reactors program into the next 
century.
                             major projects
Columbia-class Propulsion Plant
    The Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine remains the Navy's 
number one acquisition priority. Research, development, and design for 
the Columbia-class SSBN began in fiscal year 2010 and construction 
started in fiscal year 2021. The Navy-funded electric drive propulsion 
system for the Columbia-class is revolutionary. To date, lead ship 
reactor plant components have been delivered on schedule and the 
reactor core remains on track to support lead ship delivery. Naval 
Reactors will continue reactor plant design, fabrication, and safety 
analysis work required for lead ship reactor testing. Additionally, 
Naval Reactors recently commenced testing of the lead ship electric 
drive propulsion system at the compatibility test facility (CTF) in 
Philadelphia, PA.
Spent Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project
    Construction of the Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility at the Naval 
Reactors Facility in Idaho is progressing. The Naval Spent Fuel 
Handling Facility is essential to management and disposition of naval 
spent nuclear fuel in support of aircraft carrier and submarine fleet 
operations. Near-term milestones include erection of structural steel 
for the main process building, construction of the reinforced concrete 
spent fuel pools, and procurement and installation of the process and 
utility systems required for operations. I want to encourage Members 
and staff to visit the site to view this project's scale and progress 
to date. As the visible progress and constant activity at the site get 
us closer to the finish, Naval Reactors remains committed to keeping 
the committee informed of progress on this complex and large-scale 
infrastructure project.
Naval Examination Acquisition Project (NEAP)
    The Naval Examination Acquisition Project (NEAP) is the second 
major project at the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho. NEAP will 
recapitalize and transition the existing reactor core examinations 
capability out of the aging ECF. These core examinations allow 
scientists and engineers to compare actual fleet operation-measured 
reactor core performance data, to performance predicted by models and 
testing programs during development and production of the core. These 
examinations provide vital data to validate, improve, and deliver, safe 
and unrestricted operations throughout the multi-decade lifespans US 
Navy reactor cores are designed to operate. Without examining actual 
spent fuel, current fleet operations may be restricted or limited when 
issues arise, with conservatism maintained to protect the crew, the 
core and the environment. The Program will move forward on the several-
year detailed design phase to prepare for NEAP construction to support 
these examinations. We are incorporating lessons learned from the Spent 
Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project and are engaged with NNSA and 
DOE on timing and sequence of planned infrastructure projects at the 
Idaho National Laboratory. I look forward to providing an update in the 
coming years as we come through the complex design phase for this 
essential facility.
                             technical base
    In addition to the three priority projects discussed above, Naval 
Reactors maintains a world-class, high-performing workforce across the 
naval nuclear propulsion technical base. Our workforce provides 
sustained, uninterrupted support of the cradle-to-grave operations of 
our Nuclear Navy, and on-call assistance for hundreds of operational 
requests on an annual basis. The Program's technical base includes a 
foundation of specialists at our dedicated facilities and laboratories 
that provide a human-in-the loop, utilizing cutting edge equipment 
related to nuclear materials, nuclear physics, thermal-hydraulics 
testing, acoustics, electronics, software development, and systems 
integration, to conduct our work.
    The Naval Reactors technical base not only supports the fleet 
operating today, it sets the foundations for our Navy to retain and 
expand our technological advantages over competitors. Specifically, the 
technical base: 1) receives daily emergent requests and feedback from 
our globally deployed nuclear fleet, 2) executes cutting-edge 
technology research and development in support of improving today's 
nuclear fleet and delivering a more capable and lethal future fleet, 
and 3) modernizes critical dedicated infrastructure and equipment while 
safely and efficiently addressing the Program's legacy environmental 
liabilities.
    Recruiting, promoting and retaining top talent in our government 
civilian and contract workforce is critical to our ability to fulfill 
and mature our mission amidst a wide array of challenges and new 
demands. The broad range of talent in our organization is in high 
demand from all areas of our economy, but many choose to stay with the 
Program because we are directly supporting national defense. We remain 
focused on attracting and retaining a well-trained, highly qualified 
workforce and continue to work with our laboratories, private 
shipyards, Navy, and DOE leadership to stay competitive in this 
aggressive talent market within the nuclear enterprise.
Program Direction
    The Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program will utilize Federal employees 
to supervise, set direction for, and effectively manage operations at 
our Headquarters in Washington D.C. and field offices in New York, 
Pennsylvania, and Idaho.
    Supporting several classes of nuclear-powered ships whose lifetimes 
can extend over half a century requires staffing continuity and 
longevity, and that workforce possesses the deep technical knowledge to 
execute Naval Reactors' cradle-to-grave responsibilities. The 
combination of increasingly complex systems, new and innovative 
research, and evolving and expanding vulnerabilities are informing our 
human capital strategy to develop and mature generational expertise. 
Recruiting, training, and retaining the Naval Reactors workforce is a 
fundamental enabler of all aspects of naval nuclear propulsion, and 
assures the power to propel our submarines and aircraft carriers and 
their systems.
    In concert with our ongoing focus on research and development, we 
continue to identify new approaches to attract the Nation's top talent 
and retain the skilled workforce to meet the critical requirements of 
naval nuclear propulsion.
Research and Development of Naval Reactors (NRD)
    Naval Reactors Development (NRD) is focused on safely and 
effectively delivering competitive advantage in all that we do. 
Technology investment today will increase capability, reduce costs, 
shorten lead times, and tighten construction spans for current and 
future nuclear powered warships.
    Our first priority is today's fleet of nuclear powered submarines 
and aircraft carriers. Our laboratories and resident experts directly 
respond to hundreds of operational requests and technical evaluations 
annually. They assess and respond to emergent issues, keep our ships 
mission-ready, safe to operate, and deployable anywhere, any time. The 
unique nature of military operations has a significant portion of our 
nuclear powered ships at sea and globally deployed all day, every day. 
Their propulsion and power systems are required to remain online at all 
times. That does not happen without critical support, years of 
technical expertise, and a ready technical laboratory infrastructure.
    Naval Reactors has reinvigorated advanced technology development 
for the next generation of nuclear powered ships and submarines. We are 
pursuing advanced reactor core and fuel systems, manufacturing methods 
and inspection techniques, next-generation propulsion plant equipment, 
instrumentation and control systems and sensors, and asymmetrical 
applications of technologies. These advancements take time to 
materialize and be proven, but in response to today's strategic 
environment, we are executing with a higher sense of urgency to 
simultaneously shorten development timelines, lower acquisition and 
lifecycle costs, and improve adaptability. I invite you to visit our 
facilities with your staffs, talk with our naval nuclear propulsion 
experts and enhance your understanding of how we are delivering this 
capability.
Operations, Facilities and Infrastructure
    Our operations, facilities and infrastructure support a wide 
spectrum of Naval Reactors' cradle-to-grave related work and 
recapitalization projects at multiple Naval Nuclear Laboratory 
facilities and infrastructure systems. Many of the Program's required 
facilities have supported the Program since its inception under Admiral 
Rickover, over 76 years ago.
    Decontaminating and decommissioning (D&D) facilities that date back 
to the early 1950's, including some no longer in use, is also part of 
our facilities and infrastructure plan. We have approximately $6B in 
environmental liabilities requiring D&D efforts. A significant portion 
of this estimate includes the cost to remediate and demolish the 
inactive facilities and infrastructure at the Naval Nuclear Laboratory 
sites, which were essential to earlier propulsion plants on now-retired 
classes of submarine and surface ships.
    We continue to retire these liabilities in an environmentally 
responsible and cost-effective manner. Our established partnership with 
the Department of Energy Office of Environmental Management (DOE-EM) 
leverages their experience in efficient, safe, and cost-effective 
remediation of environmental liabilities. DOE-EM is working on all four 
of our sites, including D&D of the S1W prototype that supported 
development of the USS Nautilus (SSN 571), which will complete 
dismantlement later this year.
                               conclusion
    Over 76 years of maritime dominance does not guarantee we will 
continue to lead, and every day, there are active challenges to our 
maritime position. Naval nuclear propulsion remains an incredible but 
unforgiving technology, we harness it with a constant focus on safe 
operation across the cradle-to-grave responsibilities the Nation 
entrusts to Naval Reactors. We are balancing investment in today's 
fleet with future fleet requirements, while delivering unflinching 
naval nuclear propulsion for the U.S. Navy. I appreciate the strong 
support of Congress for this program.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Admiral. The committee will now 
start our first round of questioning, 5-minute round, please.
    Mr. McConnell, as I mentioned in my opening statement, I 
commend NNSA's workforce for their dedication and speed in 
delivering the first production unit of the B61-13. In this 
setting, are there any lessons learned from the production of 
the B61-13 that can be applied to other production lines?
    Mr. McConnell. Thank you, Senator. Most definitely there 
are. The clear collaboration and alignment between the 
Department of Defense and the Department of Energy and NNSA 
from the beginning in the initiation of the B61-13 concept 
allowed us to move promptly into a design and approval process, 
which allowed for maximum use of the production capabilities 
that had been established for the B61-12 and allow us to very 
efficiently and effectively transition from the last production 
unit of the B61-12 into the first production unit of the B61-
13, using very similar production and equipment components.
    So that ability to maximize efficiency and minimize the 
transition time and to add another capability to the President 
and the war fighters to address, as you had said in your 
opening remarks, harder and larger targets with the B61-13 
allowed us to fill a need in our deterrence and address that 
very quickly.
    Senator Fischer. Do you see any other opportunities where 
we can increase and accelerate the weapons production?
    Mr. McConnell. So NNSA has for quite a while had a program 
to enhance stockpile responsiveness, which is a across the 
board effort to identify opportunities to improve the 
efficiency of everything from design, through design for 
manufacturing, through production, production certification, 
and rate production through this effort that's been underway 
for, as I said years now.
    At the same time, we're looking to do more accelerated 
capabilities and create an office that would allow us to be 
even more focused on identifying new and novel ways to bring 
options to the President and the war fighters to address 
ongoing and new needs.
    Senator Fischer. Last October, you released your enterprise 
blueprint and that outlined the plans for recapitalizing major 
infrastructure projects over the next 25 years, and that 
includes how it will replace facilities that date back to the 
Manhattan Project. I appreciate the level of thought that went 
into those plans, including the careful sequencing to ensure 
that new facilities come online as they're needed so it can 
support the production of our nuclear weapons.
    Can you provide us with an update about the ongoing capital 
assets projects?
    Mr. McConnell. Thank you, Senator, and thank you for your 
continued attention and awareness to our enterprise blueprint 
and the opportunity that it represents.
    Senator Fischer. I find it very exciting, the opportunity 
it presents. I hope it's followed.
    Mr. McConnell. Very much so. We have laid out a very--as 
you indicated, a very thoughtful and careful and not extreme 
list of key facilities that are necessary over the next 25 
years to produce a agile and responsive and resilient nuclear 
security enterprise that is fit for the challenges that we will 
face. It is time-phased to make sure that we bring the 
facilities on in order that they're needed to produce the 
actual products that we deliver to the Department of Defense. 
So there is a logic and a sequencing to it.
    Nonetheless, it is a fairly large group of things to be 
done. Thankfully the President's budget is strongly supportive 
of nuclear modernization, and we are off to a very good start 
to execute the facilities that are in the first earliest phase 
of that time sequenced enterprise blueprint.
    Senator Fischer. In your opening comments, sir, you in 
passing--I felt it was in passing, you mentioned Savannah 
River. Can you provide us with an update on Savannah River and 
the plutonium processing facility there?
    Mr. McConnell. Yes, so a couple different things. My 
colleague discussed that we have transitioned the site itself 
from an Office of Environmental Management focused site to NNSA 
as the landlord for the entire site in recognition of our long 
and continuing and growing need for operations at Savannah 
River, not the least of which is the Savannah River Plutonium 
Production Facility. That facility is well underway under 
design.
    We look forward to achieving the 90 percent design 
threshold, a key threshold for us for having significant 
understanding of the expectations, requirements, and design 
details of the facility in calendar year 2026. There are other 
things going on in parallel. We need the facility. We also need 
the talented people to man the facility and for example, our 
welding certification facility is up and running, and so now we 
are putting students through in order to be able to have 
talented and capable skilled craft in the numbers we need with 
the certifications we need to execute the mission as soon as 
the facility itself is ready.
    Senator Fischer. Are you comfortable with the schedule 
you're on?
    Mr. McConnell. We need to do everything fast. Time is our 
most significant figure of merit. It is a very complicated, 
large, and difficult facility to construct. We are on a good 
timeframe. We are making progress to meet our expected 
milestones. But major, one-of-a-kind high hazard nuclear 
facilities like these are always difficult to manage and I 
would always like to have more margin.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. Senator King, you are 
recognized.
    Senator King. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. McConnell, I 
think one of the most underappreciated risks that this country 
faces is the danger of terrorists getting ahold of nuclear 
materials. My frustration is that I can't find where in the 
whole Federal enterprise, somebody's in charge of thinking 
about that. So I'm going to start with you. All of our 
attention is to our near peer adversaries, and I understand 
that, but if nuclear materials and rudimentary explosive device 
fell into the hands of a terrorist group, deterrence doesn't 
work.
    They don't have a capital city to destroy. They don't care 
about dying, and the damage on a nuclear device in a tramp 
steamer headed into the port of New York would be incalculable. 
Talk to me about proliferation and how we keep our own 
materials safe, but how can we think about this in a broader 
sense, for example, developing technology to sense nuclear 
materials in a place where they shouldn't be.
    Mr. McConnell. Thank you for the question, Senator. Your 
question in your opening remarks, you talked about the 
deterrent with a T, the safe, secure, and reliable nuclear 
deterrent that we are responsible for. We are also responsible 
for many other aspects of deterrence with a C, including our 
Office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation, and the Office of 
Counter-Terrorism Counterproliferation.
    Senator King. Is that within NNSA?
    Mr. McConnell. Those are within NNSA. They are a senate 
confirmed Presidential appointee at the same rank and the same 
position as our deputy administrator for defense programs. The 
Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation mission includes the efforts 
to figure out how to frustrate and prevent risks posed by non-
State actors. You're absolutely right, sir. The non-State 
actors are not deterred in the same way as the State actors 
are. We have a integrated system between Defense Nuclear 
Nonproliferation, and the Counter-Terrorism 
Counterproliferation folks with the support of the scientists 
and engineers and capabilities of the defense programs part.
    Senator King. I would hope also the intelligence community.
    Mr. McConnell. The intelligence community and our 
Department of Energy Intelligence group to prevent, counter, 
and respond to those threats. Our approach is to make sure that 
it is extremely difficult, virtually impossible for those non-
State actors to get access to the material and the technology 
that is necessary to create a device and to make the penalty 
they pay for attempting to acquire that material or that 
knowledge very high and to make sure that our ability to detect 
and to counter and prevent any efforts are successful so that 
we can maintain safety and security and provide that deterrence 
as far from the U.S. shores as possible.
    Senator King. I agree and I appreciate that. I just hope 
this will maintain a high level of focus because, as I say, I 
think it's a somewhat underappreciated risk when we're talking 
about national security. I view this as one of the most serious 
that we face. Let me talk for a moment about staffing. As you 
know, there was a 16 percent cut initially, and people came 
back. Now, I think we're talking about an 8 percent cut in the 
staffing of NNSA. But my impression is you were understaffed to 
start with.
    Has any cost benefit analysis been made about what the cost 
to the enterprise is of losing people versus the fairly limited 
savings from the salary involved?
    Mr. McConnell. I'm not aware that we've done an analysis in 
that parameter space. We have evaluated the risk to our mission 
of the recent reductions in staff and have found them 
acceptable for now and in the short term to continue to achieve 
our mission.
    Senator King. That strikes me as implausible, given the 
level of the demands being placed upon the agency at this 
particular moment in time where we're modernizing, we're 
developing new weapons, we're trying to get back into the pit 
business. Downsizing in that situation doesn't strike me as a 
logical management move.
    Mr. McConnell. We believe we are acceptably managing the 
risk of the status quo. Our mission is increasing over time and 
the speed by which our mission is increasing is also getting 
more rapid. It is important as we go forward with the 
enterprise blueprint, with the program of record, with all of 
the work in front of the National Nuclear Security 
Administration, that as our output requirements and mission 
requirements increase, that our ability to meet those mission 
requirements and outputs are commensurate.
    We are never going to be able to buy our way to success and 
there's, there's limits to that. So a fundamental part of our 
ability to achieve----
    Senator King. I might suggest there's something between 
buying your way to success and staff cuts that diminish the 
ability of the enterprise to meet its goals.
    Mr. McConnell. I agree, Senator, and we are going to need 
to make sure that our resources are adequate. We're also going 
to continuously need to look for those productivity and 
efficiency enhancements that will fundamentally allow us to 
unlock additional output and achieve the mission that the 
Nation and the Department of Defense and the President expect 
of us.
    Senator King. Thank you. I'll have some followup questions.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Rounds, 
you are recognized.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Madam Chair. First of all, 
gentlemen, thank you for your service to our country. Mr. 
McConnell, China and Russia are significantly expanding their 
nuclear arsenals. How is the NNSA adjusting its stockpile 
stewardship and modernization priorities to maintain a credible 
deterrence against both near peer competitors simultaneously? 
How does the growing parody between Chinese and U.S. nuclear 
arsenals impact the ability of the U.S. to maintain that 
nuclear deterrence?
    Just to throw in just a third one here, just for the heck 
of it, as the combined nuclear arsenals of Russia and China 
begin to eclipse that of the United States in terms of numbers 
of warheads, will that increase the likelihood or decrease the 
interest of our partners or unaligned nations seeking their own 
nuclear deterrent?
    So basically, how are we stacking up against our 
adversaries? What are we doing to stay ahead? What's that going 
to do to the stability in the rest of the world?
    Mr. McConnell. Thank you, Senator. As I indicated earlier, 
we are currently engaged in seven weapon modernization programs 
at the same time. This is the most active and the highest 
number of weapons systems we've been producing or working on 
developing at one time since the height of the cold war. That 
is reflective of the requirements that we get from the 
President, the strategic command, and the Nuclear Weapons 
Council. We are very successful up to this point in delivering. 
We have delivered the B61-12, the B61-13, we're on track with 
the W88, which is to achieve first production unit relatively 
soon.
    We're continuing with the other weapon systems, W87, W80-4, 
all of those programs represent our increased focus on the 
ability to ensure that the President and the war fighters have 
the options they need to respond to the geopolitical realities 
we are in. That is not to say that we're at or trying to get to 
parody, certainly not parody with the combined capabilities of 
the Chinese and the Russians, that we can deter and provide the 
deterrence with a flexible, effective, efficient, and reliable 
suite of options in our deterrence, which is what we're working 
on.
    That combined with our dedicated efforts to improve the 
physical condition of the security enterprise, both its 
production capabilities and its science capabilities that are 
essential to be able to design, certify, and assess the 
stockpile gives us and continues to give us the edge and the 
confidence that we need to provide deterrence, both for 
ourselves and in somewhat into your last point is also the 
extended deterrent that we provide to our allies and our other 
friendly nations.
    We are rising to the challenge, but the challenge keeps 
rising also. We will continue on that path.
    Senator Rounds. Out of curiosity, because we're talking 
about lots of demand for it, and along with fuel for our 
carriers and our submarines, where are we getting our uranium? 
Can we talk about that in this open setting?
    Mr. McConnell. Yes, to a certain extent. So we need uranium 
for many different uses. We need unencumbered uranium in order 
to run reactors to produce tritium. We need highly enriched 
uranium to fuel the Admiral's reactors for our nuclear fleet of 
submarines and aircraft.
    Senator Rounds. No question about the need. My question is 
in this open setting, and I'm not sure if we can do it or not, 
but where are we getting it from?
    Mr. McConnell. So we have enough material on hand for the 
near term for both unencumbered fuel for production uses and 
for the Navy. But we are going to need eventually to create a 
domestic enrichment capability, and that the Department of 
Energy and the National Nuclear Security Administration are 
currently on a two-pronged effort to do that. We have an 
activity going on with Babcock and Wilcox Nuclear Energy (BWXT) 
to produce the Domestic Uranium Enrichment Centrifuge 
Experiment, DOUCE, it's much easier as an acronym. Then we have 
the AC 100 also.
    Senator Rounds. I didn't do a very good job of asking it 
maybe. Where are we getting our uranium from? Can we talk about 
that in here?
    Mr. McConnell. Perhaps----
    Senator Rounds. Admiral Houston?
    Mr. McConnell. Phone a friend.
    Admiral Houston. Yes, Senator. We're getting it from 
existing stockpiles. We haven't produced highly enriched 
uranium since 1992. For my program, which is the primary user, 
because I actually expend that highly enriched uranium because 
I'm using it in my reactors. We are good into the 2050's for 
that. But we are watching, we will need an enrichment 
capability, just like the weapons complex will need an 
enrichment capability. That's part of the enterprise blueprint 
that's outlined by NNSA to develop that enrichment capability.
    Senator Rounds. So the enrichment capabilities that we will 
need, we know it, we've got till 2050, but between now and then 
we should be talking about it.
    Admiral Houston. Absolutely, Senator, and that's going to 
be due to the difficulty and standing up that capability----
    Senator Rounds. That's not a 5-year plan either, is it?
    Admiral Houston. It is not. It is a long-term plan across 
there, and it's laid out in the NNSA blueprint, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you, Madam 
Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Rounds. For our next 
rounds of round of questions, I would ask that we just ask one 
question since we have a second panel coming up. Mr. McConnell, 
you're getting a work over today. Can you provide us with an 
update on--no, I want to ask you this one.
    How are you working to ensure that Los Alamos can meet the 
demand for pits until Savannah River can do that rate 
production?
    Mr. McConnell. Thank you, Senator. As I indicated, we've 
hit a major milestone in producing the first diamond stamped 
war reserve, W87-1hit at Los Alamos in October of last year. We 
are now actively working on the project, which will allow us to 
achieve rate production of at least 30 pits per year at Los 
Alamos. We call it 30 base.
    That project is executing right now to deliver 
approximately 2028, and then we will followup with additional 
work to improve the reliability of our ability to deliver. So a 
more reliable production rate at 30 pits per year, which will 
take us into the early 2030's. What that work means 
specifically is we need to move old equipment out of the space 
to create D and D we call it. It's another thing that EM does 
quite a lot of, in order to create white space that we can then 
move new work spaces, new glove boxes and capabilities in.
    Senator Fischer. Are you speaking specifically about Los 
Alamos here?
    Mr. McConnell. Yes, all of that happens in PF4.
    Senator Fischer. And how that ties in then to what happens 
at Savannah River.
    Mr. McConnell. Right. So by 2028, we get to the 30 pit per 
year capability at Los Alamos. In parallel at Savannah River, 
at the Savannah River Plutonium Production Facility, SRPPF, as 
they indicated, we're working to mature the design to get to 90 
percent design in calendar year 2026, which will then allow us 
to move on to construction and production of the plant by 2032 
to get to initial production and then rate production of at 
least 50 pits per year at Savannah River in that timeframe.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Senator King.
    Senator King. Mr. Jarrell, I'm going to give you a question 
for the record so it doesn't count as my one question. If you 
could supply the Committee with an analysis of your staffing 
levels. I know you've lost some key people at Hanford. But for 
the record, not now, but if you could give me some background 
on that.
    Senator King. Admiral, my question is, is Naval Reactors on 
track with the Columbia Construction Project? In other words, 
when the submarines are ready, will the new reactors be ready?
    Admiral Houston. Senator King, absolutely. My reactor for 
District of Columbia is ready. It's just waiting to be shipped 
when Electric Boat wants it. We don't ship it early just due to 
security requirements.
    Senator King. Of course.
    Admiral Houston. The second reactor core is 75 percent 
complete. Now, we don't have issues with that. Our heavy plant 
equipment we are on schedule to meet required in yard dates so 
that steam generators, pressurizers, reactor cooling pumps. Our 
largest component, which I've mentioned before that had the 
most concern for us was the turbine generator. That turbine 
generator is at Electric Boat right now. It's being outfitted, 
completely tested. Our turbine generator has been tested and 
it's being packaged for shipment from the vendor across 
country, and it is not the critical path on delivery of 
District of Columbia. So we are within the timeframe on that.
    Senator Fischer. Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. I will pass.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. With that, I would like to thank our 
first panel for being here today and providing us with 
information. You may get other questions for the record, and I 
would ask that you return those within 2 weeks. Thank you. If 
we could have the second panel.
    Welcome to our members of panel two. We appreciate you 
being here today. If you are ready, we will take your opening 
statements. Let's begin with Dr. Vann, please?

 STATEMENT OF DR. BRANDI C. VANN, PERFORMING THE DUTIES OF THE 
   ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR NUCLEAR, CHEMICAL, AND 
                  BIOLOGICAL DEFENSE PROGRAMS

    Dr. Vann Yes, ma'am. Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member 
King, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify here before you today regarding our 
nuclear forces.
    As President Trump and Secretary of Defense, Hegseth have 
stated, the United States will achieve peace through strength 
by rebuilding our military and reestablishing deterrence. 
Nuclear weapons provide a unique deterrence effect that no 
other element of our U.S. military power can replace, and our 
Nation must continue to field a flexible and modern nuclear 
deterrent. These capabilities are critical to the continued 
safety and security of our American people, our allies, and 
partners, both now and in the future.
    The Department continues to prioritize nuclear 
modernization and sustainment of the three legs of the triad 
and our nuclear command control and communications, as well as 
all the supplemental capabilities to the program of record. 
Additionally, the department supports the efforts of Department 
of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration to 
recapitalize, sustain, and operate the nuclear enterprise. The 
United States must deliver the nuclear modernization program of 
record while continuing to sustain our legacy systems to avoid 
a deterrence shortfall and mitigate risk.
    To that end, the President's top line budget request for 
the Department of Defense does include a prioritization of our 
nuclear modernization and sustainment efforts. The Department 
of Defense remains staunchly committed to the viability of the 
United States nuclear deterrent in response to an unprecedented 
security environment with multiple nuclear challengers who have 
not followed our lead as a responsible nuclear power.
    DOD is acutely aware of the significant challenges that we 
face and recognizes that urgent action is required. In response 
to this evolved threat landscape, the department and the 
Nuclear Weapons Council continue to make the necessary policy 
changes and implement necessary actions to address what we 
acknowledge is a program of record that is necessary but maybe 
insufficient for the realities of the security environment that 
we will face.
    We recognize that we must be flexible, efficient, and 
adaptable to the evolving geopolitical landscape in order to 
defend the Homeland and provide options to the Secretary and 
the President that bolster deterrence. I want to close by 
acknowledging the creation of the Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Nuclear Deterrence, Chemical, and Biological 
Defense Policy and Programs referred to in the department as 
the ASDNDCBD, who will be at the forefront of the DOD's efforts 
to sustain and modernize this nuclear deterrent. This position 
will serve as a key point of accountability to Secretary 
Hegseth and to Congress on this critical national security 
mission.
    Finally, thank you to this Committee for your longstanding 
bipartisan support to our nuclear deterrent mission and to the 
dedicated professionals across our nuclear enterprise, as well 
as my colleagues here at the table who work diligently every 
day to execute this highest priority defense mission. Thank 
you, and I look forward to your questions.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Dr. Vann. Mr. Hoagland, 
welcome.

STATEMENT OF DAVID A. HOAGLAND, ACTING DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR 
                        DEFENSE PROGRAMS

    Mr. Hoagland. Thank you, Chairman Fischer, Ranking Member 
King, and members of the committee, I'm grateful for the 
opportunity to represent the men and women of the NNSA today. 
It is an honor to describe the extraordinary range of 
activities being executed across our nuclear enterprise.
    NNSA performs national security functions that exist 
nowhere else in the U.S. Government. Among these 
responsibilities is to ensure the safety, security, and 
effectiveness of the stockpile, which has been the cornerstone 
of America's defense for more than 75 years. The foundation of 
our mission is our workforce, the cadre of scientists, 
engineers, technicians, Federal agents, and others at NNSA and 
across our enterprise who provide exceptional expertise to our 
nuclear deterrent.
    Although this mission has spanned decades, we are now 
performing it in a strategic environment that grows more 
challenging with each passing year. The United States must 
simultaneously deter multiple nuclear armed adversaries whose 
own nuclear capabilities continue to advance. To ensure the 
dependability of our deterrence, NNSA is now modernizing both 
the legacy stockpile as well as the scientific and the 
production infrastructure upon which it depends.
    NNSA is presently executing seven major stockpile 
modernization programs covering all three legs of the nuclear 
triad. One recent addition to this program of record, which has 
been discussed, the B 61-13 observed a key milestone this month 
when we completed the first production unit of the new bomb 
fully 1 year ahead of schedule. This acceleration was achieved 
by implementing several technical and programmatic innovations 
to optimize production in an approach we hope to apply to 
future modernization efforts.
    NNSA has also established a program for the Nuclear Armed 
Sea launched cruise missile, which will provide the Navy with 
considerable new options to deter China in the Indo-Pacific. 
Work is on schedule for the W 80-4 warhead, the warhead for the 
Air Force's long-range standoff missile, and beyond these 
current programs, NNSA is also pursuing two formal studies to 
meet requirements for hard and deeply buried target defeat and 
next generation reentry capabilities.
    Underlying both our stockpile modernization programs and 
the development of future capabilities is the infrastructure of 
the weapons complex. As the committee is acutely aware, both 
our production plans and the facilities used to design, 
certify, and assess the stockpile are urgently in need of 
recapitalization. Even as we maintain and operate legacy 
facilities, we're prioritizing infrastructure investments to 
align with mission needs over the next quarter century through 
the enterprise blueprint.
    In particular, NNSA is advancing multiple large 
construction projects to provide the strategic materials needed 
for the deterrent, including plutonium, uranium, lithium, 
tritium, and high explosives. Successfully meeting NSA's 
objectives and in turn ensuring the dependability of the 
Nation's strategic deterrent, consistent investment. I 
appreciate Congress's unwavering support of the deterrence 
mission, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of Mr. James McConnell and 
Mr. Dave Hoagland follows:]

 Joint Prepared Statement by Mr. James McConnell and Mr. Dave Hoagland
    Chairman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to provide an update on the 
Department of Energy's (DOE) National Nuclear Security Administration 
(NNSA). NNSA appreciates the Subcommittee's ongoing support.
    NNSA performs national defense and public safety and security 
missions that exist nowhere else in the U.S. Government. In addition to 
maintaining the U.S. nuclear stockpile and powering the Navy's nuclear 
fleet, NNSA is responsible for preventing the spread of nuclear weapons 
to foreign states and terrorists and responding to life-threatening 
nuclear emergencies. Over the last year, NNSA continued to deliver 
modernized nuclear weapons to the Department of Defense (DoD) while 
sustaining stockpile systems and minimizing or securing nuclear and 
radioactive materials around the globe to stop threats as far from the 
U.S. Homeland as possible. This work is being carried out every day by 
the dedicated and highly talented women and men across the nuclear 
security enterprise's Federal and contractor workforce.
    NNSA is executing these missions against the backdrop of an 
increasingly complex and volatile international environment that 
presents significant, often overlapping, challenges. China represents a 
unique threat as it rapidly modernizes and expands its nuclear arsenal 
while continuing to be an economic peer. At the same time, Russia 
maintains the world's largest nuclear arsenal, continues to expand its 
capabilities, and has revised its nuclear use doctrine, expanding the 
set of circumstances under which it may launch a nuclear attack. The 
need to deter Russia and China simultaneously presents a new deterrence 
challenge distinct from the cold war and presents a possible future 
where the U.S. must counter two nuclear peers.
    We are also witnessing growing threats from regional actors like 
Iran and North Korea. Iran continues to take steps to reduce the amount 
of time it would take to produce a nuclear weapon. North Korea is 
committed to developing long-range, nuclear-armed missiles capable of 
posing a direct threat to the United States, its allies, and critical 
assets across the Indo-Pacific region.
    Finally, we are seeing growing levels of military and economic 
cooperation between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea, including 
technology sharing. As the 2025 Annual Threat Assessment of the U.S. 
Intelligence Community noted, ``These primarily bilateral 
relationships, largely in security and defense fields, have 
strengthened their individual and collective capabilities to threaten 
and harm the United States, as well as improved their resilience 
against U.S. and Western efforts to constrain or deter their 
activities.''
    In this challenging strategic environment, the U.S. nuclear 
stockpile remains safe, secure, reliable, and effective. However, we 
recognize that deterrence is not static; new and modern capabilities 
and options for the President are necessary to not only maintain but 
strengthen deterrence.
    NNSA is also challenged by aged and fragile infrastructure across 
the nuclear security enterprise. It is becoming more challenging to 
reliably meet deterrence needs in decades-old production facilities and 
science and technology infrastructure. NNSA is working to maintain 
existing facilities to meet current stockpile demands while 
simultaneously investing in modern infrastructure.
    Considering the compounding challenges facing the enterprise, I am 
proud to report on some of NNSA's recent accomplishments. In a major 
milestone, the first war reserve (WR) diamond-stamped plutonium pit for 
the W87-1 warhead was produced at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) 
last October, reestablishing a previously dormant manufacturing 
capability essential for our enduring stockpile. Last year, NNSA 
completed the Last Production Unit (LPU) of the B61-12 Life Extension 
Program (LEP). The successful execution of this program saw the 
consolidation of multiple B61 variants with updated non-nuclear 
components and improved safety, reliability, and accuracy metrics that 
will extend its service life for at least another 20 years. By taking 
advantage of existing B61 production lines, NNSA now anticipates 
producing the first B61-13 almost a year ahead of schedule.
    The unmatched scientific capabilities we use every day to design, 
certify, and assess our stockpile have made further groundbreaking 
advances, which are foundational to our confidence in the nuclear 
deterrent. Last year, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory installed 
El Capitan, our first exascale computing system for national security. 
With the capability to perform 2.79 quintillion calculations per second 
at peak performance, it has been benchmarked as the world's fastest 
supercomputer and is currently running classified, full 3D nuclear 
weapon simulations in support of nuclear stockpile stewardship 
activities. Additionally, the National Ignition Facility (NIF) has now 
repeated its seminal 2022 fusion ignition breakthrough numerous times 
and continues to see increased yields and net energy gains. On April 7, 
NIF achieved a record fusion energy yield of 8.6+MJ, demonstrating the 
first gain greater than 4 times. Fusion ignition provides unparalleled 
insights into the exceptionally high pressures and temperatures present 
inside a nuclear explosion. The ability to successfully replicate 
ignition at higher yields and greater net energy gains improves our 
ability to maintain confidence in the nuclear stockpile.
    Over the past year, NNSA has also achieved significant 
accomplishments across the full range of its nonproliferation, 
counterterrorism, and emergency response activities, significantly 
contributing to U.S. security by eliminating or mitigating nuclear 
security threats before they affect the Homeland, our interests 
overseas, or our allies. NNSA has worked to improve the United States' 
space-based nuclear detection capability in partnership with U.S. Space 
Force through the delivery of Global Burst Detector III payloads. These 
sensors are integrated into satellites in support of the nuclear 
warfighting mission and treaty verification. Additionally, NNSA has 
replaced or is in the process of replacing almost 90 percent of the 
cesium-based blood irradiators in the United States with devices that 
do not use radioactive sources, permanently reducing the risk of a 
``dirty bomb'' attack on American soil.
    NNSA's Naval Reactors program continues to ensure the U.S. Navy's 
competitive warfighting edge and secure the sea-based leg of the 
nuclear triad with unmatched submarine technology. The reactor for the 
new Columbia-class ballistic missile submarines and reactor designs for 
the next generation of fast-attack submarines are in progress. The S8G 
Prototype reactor at the Kesselring Site completed its refueling 
overhaul last July, providing an additional 20 years of training, 
research, and development opportunities. The Spent Fuel Handling 
Recapitalization Project at the Naval Reactors Facility also continues 
to progress, and with the near-term award of the last major 
construction subcontract, the Project retires a significant amount of 
risk and will be entirely in execution mode through completion. The 
project has completed its heavily reinforced concrete foundations, 
continued erecting structural steel for the main process building, and 
started construction of the spent fuel pools.
    Finally, to help plan the modernization and recapitalization of 
NNSA's aged and fragile infrastructure, NNSA published its Enterprise 
Blueprint which outlines a 25-year plan to align the construction of 
specialized infrastructure with demands across the nuclear stockpile, 
global security, and naval nuclear propulsion missions. The United 
States can no longer rely on decades-old production facilities and 
science and technology infrastructure to meet deterrence needs. The 
nuclear security enterprise must re-establish eliminated capabilities; 
replace buildings that are failing; and meet modern safety, security 
and environmental standards. While the Enterprise Blueprint provides a 
roadmap to modernize and recapitalize NNSA's specialized 
infrastructure, we recognize that as an enterprise we must reliably 
deliver projects on time and within cost parameters if we are to 
successfully deliver a modern infrastructure capable of delivering a 
modern stockpile for our Nation's defense.
    These accomplishments demonstrate NNSA's determination to fulfill 
our national security missions while remaining clear-eyed about the 
scale of the work ahead. We intend to move forward with urgency and 
precision.
                           weapons activities
    NNSA's Weapons Activities portfolio covers activities including 
stockpile management; production modernization; stockpile research, 
technology, and engineering; infrastructure and operations; defense 
nuclear security; secure transportation; and information management and 
cybersecurity.
Stockpile Management
  Stockpile Major Modernization
    NNSA is executing an expanded program of record to meet extant and 
emerging DOD requirements. We are delivering seven major stockpile 
modernization programs which are at different stages of design, 
engineering, and production simultaneously. The modernization programs 
cover all three legs of the nuclear triad and introduce new options and 
capabilities for the President.
    In December 2024, NNSA achieved the LPU for the B61-12 LEP just 3 
years after the announcement of the First Production Unit (FPU) in 
fiscal year 2022. In fiscal year 2026, the program will transition to 
Stockpile Sustainment.
    NNSA is also building the B61-13, which strengthens deterrence and 
assurance by providing the President with additional options against 
certain harder and large-area military targets. The program will be in 
Phase 6.6, (Full-Scale Production). Appropriated funds in fiscal year 
2024 for the B61-13, allowed NNSA to leverage active B61-12 production 
capabilities. NNSA appreciates the support from Congress to authorize 
and appropriate these funds in fiscal year 2024. This has improved 
efficiency and enabled NNSA to quickly meet an emerging DOD need. NNSA 
plans for a system level FPU in fiscal year 25, significantly ahead of 
our previous fiscal year 2026 timeline.
    The W88 Alt 370 Program will remain in Phase 6.6 (Full-Scale 
Production) and is scheduled to reach LPU in the final quarter of 
fiscal year 2025. The W88 warhead has been deployed in the stockpile 
for more than 30 years. The W88 Alt 370 modernizes the arming, fuzing, 
and firing subsystem; improves surety; and replaces the conventional 
high explosive and associated materials.
    The W80-4 LEP will remain in Phase 6.4, (Production Engineering), 
and reached a major milestone with reacceptance of the WR plutonium 
pit. The program has also reached FPU for multiple components. It 
remains on track for system FPU in fiscal year 2027, aligned with the 
Long-Range Standoff Weapon and the Air Force's schedule for initial 
operational capability.
    In accordance with Section 1640 of the fiscal year 2024 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), NNSA and DOD added the Nuclear-Armed 
Sea-Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM-N) to the program of record. The 
program entered a tailored Phase process which combined Phase 6.2 
(Feasibility Study and Option Down-Select) and 6.2a (Design Definition 
and Cost Study) in June 2024. In January 2025, NNSA's SLCM-N Federal 
program office down-selected the warhead to the W80 family and 
continues to coordinate with DOD as missile options are evaluated.
    The W87-1 Modification Program is currently in Phase 6.3 
(Development Engineering). The program is replacing the W78 warhead, 
currently one of the oldest in the stockpile. It will be the first 
weapon to receive newly manufactured plutonium pits. This program took 
a critical step forward last year when the first WR plutonium pit for 
the W87-1 was diamond stamped at LANL. NNSA continues to closely 
coordinate with the Air Force's Sentinel Program, and the FPU for the 
W87-1 is scheduled to be delivered in the early 2030's.
    The W93 program will be in Phase 2a, (Design Definition and Cost 
Study), with efforts focused on ascertaining the cost and schedule 
associated with development and production of the W93/Mk7. The W93 will 
meet DOD requirements to enhance operational effectiveness of the U.S. 
ballistic missile submarine force. The W93 program is being undertaken 
in parallel with the UK A21/Mk7 or Astraea warhead program, continuing 
coordination through the U.S.-UK Mutual Defense Agreement.
  Stockpile Sustainment and Weapon Dismantlement and Disposition (WDD)
    Stockpile Sustainment supports maintenance, sustainment, and 
surveillance activities to ensure the existing U.S. nuclear deterrent 
remains safe, secure, and effective. Stockpile Sustainment directly 
executes maintenance, limited life component exchanges, minor 
alterations, surveillance, assessment, surety studies and capability 
improvements, management activities, and support of weapons until they 
are dismantled for all enduring weapons systems in the stockpile. WDD 
also provides material and components from dismantled weapons for reuse 
in the current and modern stockpile and provides for safe and secure 
dismantlement of nuclear weapons, components, and critical materials 
for the stockpile, production modernization, and other stakeholders 
across the nuclear security enterprise.
  Production Operations (PO) and Nuclear Enterprise Assurance (NEA)
    PO provides the unique foundation for site-specific, production-
enabling capabilities to execute weapons production, including process 
improvements and investments focused on increased efficiency of 
production performance. Scope covers recruitment and development of 
skilled labor required for nuclear weapon systems capabilities that 
enable individual weapon production and are not specific to one 
material stream. PO also provides production equipment maintenance and 
calibration services for manufacturing operations to meet DOD WR 
requirements. In addition to these activities, NEA prevents, detects, 
and mitigates potential consequences of subversion across the 
enterprise, both to the stockpile and to the associated capabilities to 
design, produce, and test nuclear weapons.
Production Modernization
    The production modernization program re-establishes and modernizes 
the manufacturing capabilities for nuclear weapons that degraded or 
were eliminated after the cold war. This includes modernization of 
unique materials production capabilities across the enterprise 
including plutonium, uranium, lithium, high explosives, tritium, non-
nuclear components, weapons assembly/disassembly and special materials. 
All of these materials and capabilities require modern infrastructure 
to ensure reliable production capabilities at required capacities.
  Plutonium Pit Production
    NNSA's highest production modernization priority is re-establishing 
the ability to produce new plutonium pits at scale, a capability that 
has been absent since Rocky Flats ceased operations in 1989. Although 
the W87-1 and W93 programs are setting the pace and quantity for pit 
production now, NNSA's long-term stewardship of the nuclear stockpile, 
including future weapons systems, will require newly produced pits. We 
recognize, fundamentally, that as long as nuclear weapons exist, we 
will need a pit production capability. To achieve the requisite pits 
per year (ppy) necessary for current and future stockpile needs, NNSA 
is pursuing a two-site strategy at LANL and the Savannah River Site 
(SRS). The two-site strategy is a key component of NNSA's development 
of a modern nuclear security enterprise, with an emphasis on 
flexibility and resilience.
    NNSA's pit production plan includes a redesign and refurbishment of 
plutonium facilities at LANL to support a production capacity of no 
fewer than 30 ppy while simultaneously increasing the production of WR 
qualified pits for the W87-1. This work achieved a major breakthrough 
when the first diamond stamped WR plutonium pit for the W87-1 was 
produced last year. We anticipate Los Alamos achieving the capability 
to produce 30 ppy by 2028, with increased manufacturing rate confidence 
as additional equipment is installed into the early 2030's. In the 
coming year, NNSA is planning to conduct engineering evaluations for 
Los Alamos pit production in concert with increased equipment 
purchases, installation activities, and removal of legacy equipment in 
pursuit of rate production. Our ability to execute work on the pit 
production line while producing qualified plutonium pits for the W87-1 
is a testament to our adaptability as an organization and the urgency 
around reconstituting this vital capability.
    NNSA is also making progress on the Savannah River Plutonium 
Processing Facility (SRPPF) to establish the capacity to produce at 
least 50 ppy. The SRPPF Main Process Building is on track to reach 90 
percent design completion in calendar year 2026 and NNSA aims to 
establish a cost and schedule baseline for the project in fiscal year 
2026. Demolition and removal of equipment and commodities from the 
interior of the Main Process Building at SRPPF was completed in 2024 
with over 2,500 gross tons of material sent offsite for recycling. We 
have also completed design in areas such as road construction and other 
required site preparations to accelerate the start of construction.
    As NNSA ramps up efforts to bring on the workforce necessary to 
operate SRPFF, SRS is also bringing new facilities online that will be 
essential for training specialized machinists and operators, such as 
the Machining Training Center, established last year. Once SRPPF 
construction is finished, NNSA will introduce nuclear material and 
begin the manufacturing process for pits and reach rate production as 
soon as possible. We recognize the aggressiveness of SRPPF's schedule 
and appreciate congressional support for construction and long-lead 
procurements.
    NNSA expects to make progress on the final design of the overall 
SRPPF project and the beginning of construction of the High-Fidelity 
Training Center, Main Process Building and the Operations Center. These 
subprojects are being pursued in parallel with ongoing execution of 
long-lead procurement such as production equipment, gloveboxes, and 
bulk material.
  Uranium
    Alongside pit production, the Uranium Processing Facility (UPF) at 
the Y-12 National Security Complex is a top infrastructure 
modernization priority. Current uranium processing is carried out in 
Building 9212, a Manhattan Project-era facility well past its design 
life. By contrast, UPF will relocate casting, special oxide production, 
and salvage and accountability capabilities into a new, modern, more 
efficient, and safe facility. The construction of the overall UPF 
project is now over 70 percent complete. We expect construction to be 
finished in 2027 with transition to operations to complete no later 
than 2032. The current UPF cost estimate is $10.35B. While UPF is under 
construction, NNSA continues to maintain legacy facilities to produce 
weapons components.
    Along with UPF, NNSA is advancing its development of one or more 
gas centrifuge technologies for domestic uranium enrichment. Our 
nearest-term priority is to produce unobligated low-enriched uranium 
(LEU) to fuel tritium production. Over the long-term, we will need to 
produce unobligated highly enriched uranium (HEU) for the Naval Nuclear 
Propulsion Program. For almost 10 years, NNSA's efforts have been 
focused on research and development at Oak Ridge National Laboratory to 
advance the Domestic Uranium Enrichment Centrifuge Experiment (DUECE) 
gas centrifuge technology. This past August, NNSA contracted with BWXT-
Nuclear Fuel Services to conduct a year-long engineering study that 
will help us plan our acquisition approach for a pilot plant using the 
DEUCE technology. The next step will be to contract for the design and 
licensing to deploy this pilot plant at the beginning of fiscal year 
2026.
    To reduce risk to meeting domestic uranium enrichment program 
objectives, NNSA is also exploring the feasibility of a second 
centrifuge technology, the AC100. This past December, NNSA released a 
Request for Information for industry input on an AC100 deployment that 
would provide a limited early production capability and demonstrate one 
of the available centrifuge technologies. NNSA is on track to contract 
for an AC100 project execution plan at the beginning of fiscal year 
2026.
  Lithium
    Lithium handling, packaging, and processing are key capabilities in 
the nuclear weapon production mission. NNSA requires specialized, 
weapon-specific forms of lithium for the production of nuclear weapon 
components. NNSA currently processes lithium in Building 9204-02 at the 
Y-12 National Security Complex, which is 82 years old and suffers from 
structural degradation. In 2023, NNSA broke ground on the Lithium 
Processing Facility (LPF). NNSA will ensure the continuity of critical 
lithium processing capabilities during the transition to LPF.
  Tritium
    Tritium gas, a critical component of nuclear weapons systems, 
decays over time and must be continually replenished to maintain 
stockpile effectiveness. NNSA produces tritium by irradiating Tritium 
Producing Burnable Absorber Rods (TPBARs) at two Tennessee Valley 
Authority (TVA) reactors before transferring them to SRS for 
extraction, purification, and loading into gas transfer system 
reservoirs, or for other national security needs. During this past 
year, NNSA, in coordination with the TVA, pursued and received Nuclear 
Regulatory Commission (NRC) approval to increase the per-reactor 
operating cycle maximum TPBAR limit from 1,792 to 2,496. This 
represents a 39 percent increase in TPBARs and by extension, a similar 
increase to the Watts Bar Nuclear (WBN) reactor site tritium production 
capacity. The increase will enhance programmatic flexibility and 
capacity to meet demand fluctuations or recover from a potential 
realization of programmatic risks. NNSA continues to support an 
increasingly reliable, resilient, and flexible tritium supply chain to 
meet the growing nuclear security enterprise mission.
High Explosives and Energetics
    NNSA is currently working on two major construction projects that 
support our high explosives capability. The High Explosives Science and 
Engineering (HESE) facility at the Pantex Plant will consolidate 15 
aging facilities into three new, more efficient ones to conduct 
science, technology, engineering, and production activities. We 
anticipate HESE completion in 2028. Additionally, at Pantex, the High 
Explosives Synthesis, Formulation, and Production Facility (HESFP) will 
replace 11 deteriorating World War II-era formulation facilities and 
establish an in-house high explosives manufacturing capability. NNSA is 
working to achieve the operational start date for HESFP as required by 
the fiscal year 2024 NDAA. While NNSA executes these major capital 
projects within the complex, we are also working closely with partners 
in DOD to establish main charge insensitive high explosives production 
at Holston Army Ammunition Plant, and with the Naval Surface Warfare 
Center Indian Head Division for HE formulation. Additionally, to ensure 
a sufficient supply of critical FK-800 binder needed to manufacture 
these high explosives, NNSA successfully contracted with 3M to procure 
up to 32,000 pounds of remaining FK-800 supply, which is anticipated to 
be delivered by the end of fiscal year 2025. NNSA is also formulating 
new insensitive high explosives to replace existing formulas that use 
FK-800.
  Non-Nuclear Components
    The overwhelming majority of a nuclear weapons package consists of 
highly specialized non-nuclear components. NNSA designs most of the 
non-nuclear components at Sandia National Laboratories and produces 
them at the Kansas City National Security Campus. The need to execute 
seven weapon modernization programs simultaneously presents a 
production capacity challenge at Kansas City, as the current 
manufacturing complex was designed for a requirement of one weapons 
system in development and one system in production. Changes in the 
program of record have resulted in a significantly increased need for 
non-nuclear components, and therefore a doubling of the workforce since 
2014. To meet expanded production, facility, and workforce needs, NNSA 
launched the Kansas City Non-Nuclear Expansion Transformation (KCNExT), 
a multi-phase real eState acquisition approach, allowing the 
utilization of each phase immediately upon completion while 
construction continues elsewhere. NNSA broke ground on Phase One last 
year and a Topping Out Ceremony for Phase One occurred in February.
    In addition, all weapons require trusted, warhead strategic 
radiation hardened microelectronics (WSRH). These can only be designed 
and manufactured at the Sandia National Laboratories' Microsystem 
Engineering, Science, and Applications (MESA) complex. Strategic 
radiation hardened microelectronics are essential components of a 
nuclear weapon's arming, fuzing, and firing system, which provides the 
signals that initiate the nuclear explosive chain. Production of WSRH 
components at MESA is considered high risk due to high downtime rates 
of old equipment that is no longer supported by the manufacturer.
        stockpile research, technology, and engineering (srt&e)
    The SRT&E program provides the foundation for science-based 
stockpile decisions; delivers advanced capabilities to support DOD 
requirements and counter emerging threats; and innovates across the 
nuclear security enterprise to improve productivity, efficiency, and 
responsiveness. For more than 30 years, NNSA's unrivaled scientific 
enterprise has provided the decisive edge to maintain confidence in the 
stockpile without the need for explosive testing. Thanks to the 
tireless work of a generation of scientists and engineers, we now have 
a better understanding of a nuclear weapon than at any time in the 
atomic era.
    Within SRT&E, the Advanced Simulation and Computing program 
supports the subject matter experts, integrated design codes and other 
physics and engineering models, along with the enabling infrastructure 
represented by El Capitan and other computational systems. These 
capabilities provide unprecedented modeling and simulations essential 
for certifying the nuclear stockpile and also provide support for 
NNSA's nonproliferation and counterterrorism missions.
    As Secretary Wright has said, AI is the next Manhattan Project. 
NNSA is taking decisive action to leverage advantages offered by AI. We 
believe this technology can be applied to every aspect of our nuclear 
deterrent mission, accelerating the time needed to solve some of the 
Nation's toughest science challenges. That is why NNSA is already 
starting to harness our premier computing power to support AI to 
analyze diagnostic data, optimize experimental designs, and improve our 
facility operations. NNSA will not only use AI to support the critical 
Stockpile Stewardship Program (SSP) with data those who created the 
program did not know was possible, but will also use it to provide 
valuable insights into the potential for AI to advance similar non-NNSA 
defense missions and assess our adversaries' military activities.
    The Inertial Confinement Fusion program gives NNSA experimental 
access to extreme temperature and pressure regimes characteristic of 
nuclear weapons explosions to support design, certification, and 
assessment of the nuclear stockpile. While commercial fusion energy 
facilities are being designed and built, LLNL's NIF remains the only 
location on Earth capable of achieving fusion ignition. NIF's ability 
to repeatably provide multi-megajoule fusion yields allows stockpile 
scientists to test the survivability of U.S. stockpile systems when 
exposed to hostile environments, improve the predictive capability of 
NNSA's simulations, develop high-fidelity diagnostics and advanced 
experimental platforms, and better understand the outputs of nuclear 
explosions. As modernization decisions will be reliant on the 
certification of new materials, components and systems not previously 
fielded in the stockpile, the capability to generate fusion yield in 
the laboratory is a critical tool that is unique to the U.S. nuclear 
complex.
    The Weapon Technology and Manufacturing Maturation program develops 
agile, affordable, assured, and responsive technologies and 
capabilities for nuclear stockpile sustainment and modernization. This 
action accelerates the nuclear weapons lifecycle by rapidly developing, 
building and testing prototypes through ground and flight test 
demonstrations. The Engineering and Integrated Assessments program 
ensures system-informed survivability in present and future stockpile-
to-target sequences and ensures a responsive nuclear deterrent through 
collaborative partnerships, proactive integration, disruptive 
innovation, and assessments. NNSA is supporting two Phase 1 system 
studies for early exploration of concept assessments for hard and 
deeply buried target defeat and non-ballistic reentry systems in 
response to Nuclear Weapons Council requests for joint studies of 
future weapon and nuclear security enterprise capabilities. NNSA will 
continue to support our DOD partners and harness the creative and 
dynamic capabilities of our labs, plants, and sites to rapidly address 
the shifting threat environment.
    A critical infrastructure investment to support the design, 
certification, and assessment of the current and future stockpile, NNSA 
is constructing the Enhanced Capabilities for Subcritical Experiments 
(ECSE). The current focus is on the expansion and construction efforts 
at the Principal Underground Laboratory for Subcritical Experimentation 
(PULSE) at the Nevada National Security Site. ECSE includes development 
of the Z-Pinch Experimental Underground System (ZEUS) and Advanced 
Sources Detectors (ASD) Scorpius instruments. Experiments with these 
tools at PULSE will allow NNSA to conduct system-level plutonium aging 
experiments by the end of the decade, providing an important capability 
to assess system designs. Importantly, they will support certification 
of the W80-4, W87-1, and W93 programs.
                     infrastructure and operations
    As NNSA's workload increases in response to the global threat 
environment, the enterprise urgently requires modernized 
infrastructure. A significant portion of NNSA's critical facilities is 
operating beyond its 40-year life span while other capabilities must be 
reestablished. Recapitalizing and restoring these capabilities is 
critical for on-time delivery of the weapons modernization program of 
record.
    While new facilities are under construction, NNSA must continue to 
maintain and operate in legacy facilities to enable weapons 
modernization at an increased pace as well as meet global nuclear 
security requirements, including counterterrorism, 
counterproliferation, and nuclear emergency response. As noted 
previously, the need to operate legacy facilities while also 
constructing new ones places additional financial and workforce strain 
on NNSA and requires our adaptability and flexibility.
    The Enterprise Blueprint issued last year is the plan for 
surmounting this challenge. It provides a roadmap for the next quarter-
century of NNSA programmatic construction to carefully manage the 
overlapping requirements of weapons delivery schedules, legacy facility 
maintenance, and new facility construction by employing new approaches 
to improve performance in delivering projects. Even so, we are clear-
eyed that reform must come from within, and NNSA must keep costs and 
schedules within appropriate levels as part of our responsibility to 
Congress and the American people.
    Infrastructure modernization goes beyond the construction of new 
facilities. It also delivers modern capabilities and efficient 
technologies that take advantage of revolutions in production over 
previous decades while promoting higher safety and security standards 
for our workforce and the communities in which we operate. The overall 
aim of our infrastructure modernization effort is to make the nuclear 
security enterprise scalable and flexible to meet non-linear mission 
demand over the coming decades.
                         secure transportation
    NNSA's Secure Transportation program includes the Mobile Guardian 
Transporter (MGT) acquisition program, leading-edge communication 
systems and recruitment, retention, and training for our highly 
qualified Federal Agents. MGT is the next generation secure trailer 
system and with our highly qualified Federal agents, will ensure the 
safety and security of existing and planned cargoes, meet nuclear 
explosive safety standards, and protect the public. Due to the rigorous 
screening and training required for these Federal agents, maintaining a 
steady cadence of Federal Agent Training Courses is essential, and NNSA 
appreciates support for continuing to onboard new agents.
    The Secure Transportation Asset (STA) Program, which provides this 
capability, has a record of 100 percent safe and secure shipments 
without compromise, loss of components, or release of radiological 
material.
                        defense nuclear security
    Defense Nuclear Security provides protection for NNSA personnel, 
facilities, weapons, and materials from a full spectrum of threats 
ranging from minor security incidents to acts of terrorism in a rapidly 
evolving technology threat landscape.
    As NNSA's overall mission set continues to grow, NNSA is enhancing 
security capabilities through the acquisition and employment of 
innovative physical security technology to improve risk mitigation and 
promote more efficient security operations. Additional personnel, 
larger facility footprints, and larger quantities of sensitive 
materials require additional shifts and potential return to 24/7 
operations at some locations. Furthermore, rapidly evolving technology 
presents novel security challenges that require novel solutions.
    One of the most complex and rapidly evolving security threats NNSA 
faces is from drones and other uncrewed aircraft systems. NNSA is 
making substantial investments in next-generation counter-uncrewed 
aircraft systems (CUAS) while updating hardware and software of current 
platforms. In partnership with Idaho National Laboratory, NNSA is using 
the lab's dedicated CUAS range to conduct testing and evaluation of 
future-generation CUAS acquisitions, assisting security planners in 
identifying future generation solutions to improve NNSA's existing CUAS 
platforms.
Information Technology and Cybersecurity
    NNSA faces a growing array of IT and cybersecurity challenges and 
is responding through strategic modernization of its IT and 
cybersecurity environments to include more resilient and flexible 
capabilities. These investments focus on enterprise-scale cybersecurity 
infrastructure, operational technology security, Nuclear Enterprise 
Assurance requirements, zero trust architectures, and commercial cloud-
based technologies for both classified and unclassified networks. 
Additional investments include integrated communications and innovative 
collaboration services. These actions are geared toward making NNSA 
systems more secure in an increasingly digital world.
    NNSA continues to invest in its digital transformation and digital 
engineering efforts. In July 2024, NNSA launched Enterprise Secure 
Network (ESN) Hub, a centralized classified computing environment that 
will connect partners and collaborators across the enterprise in new 
ways, increasing productivity while keeping our work secure. For the 
first time, NNSA mission personnel can access a common enterprise-wide 
computing infrastructure from secure locations across the enterprise at 
any time. This effort is just one part of NNSA's broader digital 
transformation initiative that will streamline and optimize efficiency 
across the enterprise through new tools and revised work processes.
                    defense nuclear nonproliferation
    The work conducted under Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation creates a 
multilayered defense to prevent, counter, and respond to the threat of 
nuclear and radiological terrorism, as well as the threat of hostile 
countries acquiring nuclear weapons. This work makes America safer by 
both protecting American citizens and interests overseas and keeping 
threats as far from the U.S. Homeland as possible. These activities are 
a powerful and necessary component of strategic deterrence.
    NNSA's nonproliferation programs also facilitate the global 
deployment of U.S.-developed nuclear reactors that incorporate the 
highest standards of nuclear safeguards, security, and proliferation 
resistance. NNSA's work in this area is a ``win-win'' that helps 
unleash the American nuclear renaissance while also keeping America 
safe from the threats of nuclear proliferation and terrorism.
  Material Management and Minimization
    The Office of Material Management and Minimization works to prevent 
hostile State or non-State actors from acquiring weapons-usable 
material for use in an improvised radiological or nuclear device by 
eliminating it or replacing it with less attractive material.
    NNSA is successfully executing a recovery project for high-assay 
low-enriched uranium (HALEU). This activity removes unusable scrap 
HALEU materials from Y-12's aging 9212 facility and processes it into 
an oxide form. Once produced, the material is being provided to DOE's 
Office of Nuclear Energy to support advanced reactor demonstrations. In 
addition to the benefits to industry, this project will support a more 
efficient transition to UPF. To date, NNSA has produced over 300 kg of 
oxide and is on track to produce more over the next 2 years.
    NNSA also works with partners in the United States and with 
countries around the world to convert research reactors and medical 
isotope productionsites away from HEU to LEU or HALEU. These 
conversions allow for critical research and business activities to 
continue while eliminating the associated proliferation risk. Most 
recently, NNSA's partnership with Japan achieved the conversion of the 
first of two reactor cores at Kyoto University's Critical Assembly from 
HEU to HALEU. This marks the 110th research reactor or medical isotope 
facility that NNSA has helped convert to a proliferation resistant fuel 
or otherwise verified as shutdown.
    Additionally, NNSA works with partner countries around the world to 
eliminate excess inventories of HEU and plutonium. To date, NNSA has 
eliminated over 7,345 kg of HEU and plutonium, the material equivalent 
of several hundred nuclear weapons.
  Global Material Security
    The Office of Global Material Security makes America safer by 
working in the United States and internationally to secure and prevent 
the smuggling of radioactive and nuclear materials that could be used 
in an attack against the United States or its interests.
    Global Material Security also works with U.S. industry to advance 
U.S. competitiveness, prosperity, and security. The program currently 
works with nine U.S. advanced reactor vendors on security by design to 
increase global competitiveness and exportability. It also supports the 
development of groundbreaking technologies to replace radioactive 
materials, such as cesium-137 and cobalt-60 across a broad spectrum of 
medical, agricultural, and industrial applications. This includes a 
congressional mandate to eliminate all cesium-137 blood irradiators in 
the United States by 2027. To date, NNSA has eliminated 400 such 
devices. Eliminating these materials ensures that they can never be 
used in a radiological device that poses a threat to the United States, 
its citizens, or interests. Global Material Security also deploys 
American radiation detection equipment in countries around the world to 
build partner-country capacity to stop radiological and nuclear 
smuggling. This forward-leaning approach disrupts illicit smuggling 
supply chains and halts threats before they can reach the Homeland.
  Nonproliferation and Arms Control
    Dating back to the Eisenhower Administration, it has been U.S. 
policy to support the safe and peaceful use of nuclear energy. Today, 
that growth is larger than at any point in history. In 2023, there were 
more than 410 nuclear reactors in operation across 30 countries. Today, 
more than 40 countries are considering expanding their civilian nuclear 
fleets or adopting nuclear power. Many of these countries are nuclear 
newcomers who lack the sophisticated technical experience and 
safeguards regime to ensure the safe use and operation of these power 
plants and their material. China and Russia also dominate the field of 
nuclear reactor construction. Of the 52 reactors that have started 
construction since 2017, 48 are of either Chinese or Russian design.
    To balance longstanding U.S. support for expanded nuclear power use 
and the potential known and unknown proliferation risks associated with 
that expansion, the Nonproliferation and Arms Control program 
undertakes a wide array of activities, including building the capacity 
of the International Atomic Energy Agency and its Member States to 
implement international nuclear safeguards; strengthening domestic and 
global capacity to detect and prevent illicit transfers of prohibited 
materials, equipment, and technology; provide technical assistance to 
the Department of State on the negotiation and implementation of 
nuclear cooperation agreements and implement the nuclear export control 
regulations at 10 CFR Part 810, under which the Secretary of Energy 
authorizes U.S. companies to export unclassified nuclear technology and 
assistance.
  Nuclear Nonproliferation Research and Development
    Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation Research and Development directly 
contributes to nuclear security by developing U.S. capabilities to 
detect and characterize global nuclear security threats, specifically 
foreign nuclear material production and weapons development activities, 
movement, and illicit diversion of special nuclear materials and global 
nuclear detonations. Irrespective of existing arms control agreements, 
these capabilities provide the U.S. with the ability to independently 
detect and verify foreign nuclear weapons development and activities 
around the world and in outer space.
    Current programmatic focus is on the production of nuclear 
detonation detection satellite payloads in line with the schedule 
established with the U.S. Space Force; continued development of 
technical approaches, including remote sensing and AI, to drive early 
detection of nuclear proliferation; and ongoing infrastructure 
recapitalization activities to meet future mission objectives and 
anticipate threats through demonstration and validation in 
representative environments.
Nuclear Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation (CTCP)
    The CTCP program counters nuclear terrorism and nuclear 
proliferation and responds to any nuclear or radiological threat, 
incident, or accident worldwide. CTCP acts in an expanded 
counterterrorism and counterproliferation environment given the growing 
use and reach of nuclear and radiological material, potential risks 
inherent in emerging technologies like AI that lower the barrier to 
access nuclear technical expertise, and the nuclear emergency response 
implications of a deteriorating global security environment. CTCP 
harnesses DOE's decades of experience with nuclear weapons and 
materials, directs it toward understanding substantial and unresolved 
scientific challenges associated with nuclear threats posed by any 
adversary, and maintains the capability to respond to those threats in 
fulfilment of key national security and public safety missions.
    To effectively respond to nuclear emergencies worldwide, CTCP is 
responsible for the Nuclear Emergency Support Team (NEST), an 
organization of on-call technical specialists trained and equipped to 
respond to nuclear threats, incidents, and accidents anywhere on Earth. 
NEST maintains a vast array of capabilities to detect, assess, defeat 
and attribute the provenance of loose nuclear material or improvised 
nuclear devices; safely resolve any accidents involving a U.S. nuclear 
weapon and mitigate impacts to public health and safety during a 
radiological or nuclear emergency of any scale. NEST executed 27 
unclassified emergency response operations in 2024 and continues this 
steady operational tempo in 2025 while maintaining 24/7/365 readiness 
to respond. NNSA was proud to celebrate NEST's 50th anniversary last 
September, a reflection on half a century of critical, often unseen, 
work keeping the United States citizens and our interests around the 
world safe.
    CTCP also engages in extensive training and coordination with 
local, State, and Federal partners to prepare them for a potential 
nuclear or radiological emergency. These partners have repeatedly and 
successfully worked alongside NEST for the protection of large-scale 
national events, including Presidential inaugurations, Super Bowls and 
the Olympics. CTCP also partners with the FBI to sustain advanced 
counter-WMD capabilities in 14 major U.S. cities and is building an 
enhanced baseline capability in each FBI field office to conduct 
initial counter-WMD operations.
    In addition, CTCP assesses emergency response gaps and works to 
address these through building capable partnerships with State and 
local communities and international allies so they can counter and 
respond to radiological and nuclear incidents, accidents and terror 
threats. These domestic partnerships strengthen and exercise local 
response coordination. Internationally, NNSA is a leader in nuclear and 
radiological emergency response. CTCP works to build partnerships 
capable of countering threats before they reach the Homeland, and, 
should an incident occur, mitigating impacts to public health and 
safety to preserve American safety, security, and economic interests.
    CTCP also retains extensive nuclear forensic capabilities, which 
deter a malign State and non-State actors from carrying out a nuclear 
terror attack. To maintain this deterrent, CTCP is focused on 
strengthening nuclear forensics capabilities to ensure decisionmakers 
receive timely assessments that support attribution in the event of a 
nuclear incident. As with other nonproliferation, counterterrorism and 
emergency management activities, robust forensics serves as a key 
complement to our nuclear weapons deterrent, reinforcing the certainty 
of an American response to any nuclear attack.
                             naval reactors
    The Naval Reactors portfolio supports NNSA's close partnership with 
the U.S. Navy in support of the nuclear fleet. Naval Reactors is 
advancing naval nuclear propulsion capabilities to keep the U.S. Navy 
on the cutting edge of warfighting capability, maintaining the assured 
second-strike capability of the sea-based leg of the nuclear triad, and 
building the next generation of naval nuclear propulsion infrastructure 
for continued operational success. Last year NNSA celebrated the75th 
anniversary of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program and its 
unprecedented record of technological innovation and success.
    Naval Reactors is currently working on four major initiatives: 
Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine reactor systems development; 
development of future advanced submarine technology to support next 
generation designs; continued progress on base technology development; 
and infrastructure recapitalization at program sites, including 
decontamination and decommissioning efforts leading to a reduction in 
long-term program liabilities.
    These infrastructure efforts include constructing the Naval Spent 
Fuel Handling Facility at the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho to 
recapitalize the capabilities for naval spent nuclear fuel handling 
that exist in the over-60-year-old Expended Core Facility.
    Finally, Naval Reactors continues to support the Australia-United 
Kingdom-United States (AUKUS) partnership through reimbursable work 
with Australia and the U.K. NNSA will continue its collaboration with 
the Departments of State and Defense to advance the goals of the 
enhanced trilateral security partnership.
                     federal salaries and expenses
    NNSA's Federal workforce executes the essential government 
functions of the agency including mission program management, project 
management, budget development, contract management, and effective 
oversight of its management and operating contractors.
    NNSA's mission is accomplished through the hard work and innovative 
spirit of a highly talented workforce committed to public service. NNSA 
is a lean organization that will continue to identify efficiencies to 
provide an agile and efficient organization to meet evolving mission 
needs.
                               conclusion
    These are unprecedented times for the nuclear security enterprise. 
Not since the cold war have we had seven simultaneous weapons programs 
in the program of record, and not since the Manhattan Project have we 
so fundamentally overhauled our infrastructure. Never have we tried to 
undertake both these tasks at the same time, in an already turbulent 
international environment. We appreciate Congress' continuous support 
for our mission priorities. NNSA is committed to delivering modernized 
weapons on time and at pace to the DOD, safeguarding nuclear materials 
globally, creating the next generation of naval nuclear propulsion 
technology, and doing it all while modernizing our infrastructure. 
There is much work to be done, but I am confident in our ability to 
succeed. Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Hoagland. General Bussiere, 
welcome. Good to see you.

    STATEMENT OF GENERAL THOMAS A. BUSSIERE, USAF COMMANDER

    General Bussiere. Good afternoon, Chairwoman Fischer, 
Ranking Member King, Members of the distinguished Committee. I 
have the honor of representing the men and women of Air Force 
Global Strike Command and to be providing you an update today 
on our mission, our airmen, our ongoing modernization efforts, 
and the challenges of sustaining our legacy weapon systems.
    I'd like to thank Congress for your continued support for 
not only our Nation's defense, but for the Air Force's nuclear 
deterrence and long-range strike missions. My full statement 
has been submitted for the record. The Air Force Global Strike 
team has the privilege of executing our Nation's strategic 
nuclear deterrence and conventional long-range strike missions. 
My top priority remains maintaining a viable legacy force while 
modernizing and taking care of our airmen and their families.
    Modernization efforts include the Intercontinental 
Ballistic Missile (ICBM) leg, the B21, the B52 J model, the MH-
139 Gray Wolf helicopter, the Survival Airborne Operations 
Center, our Weapons Generation facility upgrades, our long-
range standoff weapons, and the nuclear command and control and 
communications architecture. This Committee recognizes the 
serious nuclear threats to our Nation. We face the challenge of 
deterring two major nuclear powers, China and Russia, who 
possess both modern and diverse arsenals. Additionally, North 
Korea poses an escalating threat, and there is the potential of 
a nuclear armed Iran.
    This dangerous and unprecedented security environment is 
further complicated by the increased coordination among these 
U.S. rivals. This underscores the importance of fielding a 
flexible and modern nuclear force to effectively deter them. 
While Global Strike Command leads the charge in sustaining 
current forces in deploying future long-range strike weapon 
systems, we do recognize this is the bedrock of our military 
strength. It's the foundation of our Nation's defense and 
essential for assuring our allies and partners.
    Equally important to a viable and effective nuclear 
deterrence is our ability to effectively conduct conventional 
long-range strike missions. We remain focused on sustaining and 
modernizing our conventional bombers and fielding improved 
long-range strike capabilities to provide the Nation with a 
full range of deterrence options. Through it all, our Striker 
airmen remain our greatest strength, their dedication, 
innovation, resilience, make it all possible.
    But the world is an uncertain place. We must remain 
vigilant and continue to invest in our airmen and their 
families and provide them with the resources, training, and 
support they need to get the job done we're asking them to do.
    The Air Force Nuclear Enterprise is in a critical phase of 
transition. There is no operational margin remaining and our 
resources continue to be stretched, impacting the readiness and 
well-being of our dedicated airmen. Today I request your 
continued support as we confront these pressing challenges 
while upholding our Nation's security. Thank you. I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Bussiere follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Thomas A. Bussiere
                              introduction
    Air Force Global Strike Command (AFGSC) provides strategic 
deterrence and long-range strike capabilities anytime, anywhere as 
directed by the President, and the Commander, United States Strategic 
Command (USSTRATCOM). As a cornerstone of our Interim National Defense 
Strategy, AFGSC sustains current forces while simultaneously 
integrating future long-range strike weapon systems. This past August 
marked the 15th anniversary of AFGSC's establishment, a testament to 
our vital role as the central force provider for the Air Force's 
strategic responsibilities, but our command is younger than our weapon 
systems. The B-2A and B-1B are over 30 years old, and the B-52H just 
had its 72d birthday. The Minuteman III missile (MMIII) is 55 years old 
and the overall intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) weapon system 
is even older. The nuclear, command, control, and communications 
systems (NC3) is built on cold war-era architecture. As AFGSC 
transitions legacy systems to new technologies, we must achieve balance 
between critical sustainment of aging systems and continued funding for 
essential replacements such as the B-21 bomber and the Sentinel ICBM.
    AFGSC demonstrates dedication to the Nation's credible deterrent 
through continuous global engagement. Strengthening deterrence requires 
a force that is demonstrably lethal, always ready, and operates with 
shared national security objectives. In 2024, AFGSC planned and 
executed 33 Bomber Task Force (BTF) events, encompassing 267 days of 
deployed bomber operations across multiple geographic commands. AFGSC 
executed more bomber task missions in the last 12 months than the last 
20 years combined. The demand signal for BTFs to showcase American 
airpower, empower allies and partners, and give adversaries pause is 
significant, and will likely only increase in the future. The 24/7 
vigilance of our ICBM force marks 55 years of unyielding resolve 
afforded by the MMIII. The dedication to our operational tempo, coupled 
with our focus on people, mission, modernization, and engagement, 
enables AFGSC to maintain its strategic advantage in both the nuclear 
and conventional realms.
    However, AFGSC faces a watershed moment: there is no remaining 
margin in our legacy fielded forces but the demand for these 
capabilities has not waned. Arguably, AFGSC capabilities have never 
been more important for our overall defense due to the modernization, 
increasing capabilities, and diversification of the nuclear 
capabilities of our adversaries. We must never forget the weight of our 
responsibility in safeguarding national security. Sustaining our legacy 
systems cannot be overlooked as all hands focus on the daunting 
challenge of modernizing and recapitalizing all legs of the nuclear 
triad. AFGSC needs continued support and on-time, stable funding to 
equip our Airmen to compete effectively in this ever-changing and 
challenging strategic environment.
                      global security environment
    The United States and Allies and partners face one of the most 
challenging threat environments since the cold war, as highlighted by 
the need to simultaneously deter two major nuclear-armed adversaries 
and a nuclear-armed rogue nation, the DPRK). China and Russia possess 
advanced and diverse nuclear capabilities, demanding a complex and 
multifaceted strategic approach. The Kremlin's deployment of nuclear 
weapons to Belarus and its plans to aggressively expand its military 
present new challenges to European security. Additionally, the 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) has doubled down on 
expanding nuclear capabilities, and the potential for Iran to develop 
nuclear weapons remains a grave concern. In an unprecedented move, the 
DPRK has deployed approximately 10,000 troops to support Russia's 
efforts against Ukraine on the battlefield. Most alarming is the 
deepening alignment amongst these nuclear-armed actors and the need to 
be ready to defeat this new axis of aggressors.
    As the Department's pacing threat, China continues to pursue an 
unprecedented military buildup, including the expansion, modernization, 
and diversification of its nuclear and conventional forces. China's 
growing stockpile of deliverable air-, ground-, and sea-launched weapon 
systems pose a challenge to current United States and allied missile 
defense systems beyond the Second Island Chain. China remains on an 
accelerated pace to possess 1,000 operational nuclear warheads by the 
end of the decade, complicating the requirements for United States 
deterrence globally. China's establishment of new silo fields and new 
ICBMs will only increase the threat posed by the Chinese Communist 
Party's (CCP). Consequently, China will possess new options for 
coercive purposes before and during a crisis or conflict. China is also 
rapidly modernizing air and sea conventional capabilities with next-
generation aircraft such as their stealth H-20 bomber and enhanced 
naval strike weapons to keep United States and allied forces outside of 
optimum employment parameters in a regional conflict.
    China's nuclear force expansion is complemented by an increasing 
industrial base capacity to create plutonium from fast-breeder 
reactors. Of additional concern is China's deepening economic, 
diplomatic, and military support to and alignment with Russia. China's 
economic and diplomatic support is helping Russia sustain its war in 
Ukraine. China and Russia are also expanding their defense cooperation 
beyond Ukraine; for the first time last year, Chinese and Russian 
bombers conducted a joint patrol in international airspace off the 
coast of Alaska.
    China's nuclear and conventional expansion efforts, in conjunction 
with deepening growing ties to Russia, raise the risk to United States 
and allied forces in the Indo-Pacific region. Despite Russia's heavy 
losses, it still maintains the world's largest nuclear stockpile with 
modernized systems and a growing arsenal of novel asymmetric nuclear 
weapons. Additionally, President Putin announced that Russia reserves 
the right to use nuclear weapons against any country that poses a 
critical threat, including from conventional weapons, to Russian or 
Belarusian sovereignty and/or territorial integrity. Additionally, 
President Putin stated the participation of, or support from, a nuclear 
State conducting aggression against the Russian Federation and/or its 
Allies from any non-nuclear State would be considered a joint attack.
    While the DPRK is not an adversary on the same scale as China or 
Russia, it still presents deterrence dilemmas for the United States and 
our allies and partners. The DPRK poses a persistent threat and growing 
danger to the United States Homeland and the Indo-Pacific region. The 
DPRK continues to expand, diversify, and improve both conventional and 
nuclear strike capabilities. The development of liquid and solid-fueled 
missile systems will further complicate our ability to monitor and 
react to ballistic missile threats. The DPRK has expanded partnerships 
with both China and Russia, which provides political cover for Kim Jong 
Un regime's continued nuclear weapons expansion. The DPRK and Russia 
signed a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Treaty in June 2024, which 
includes a mutual defense provision and highlights the deepening 
strategic alignment between the countries, particularly in their 
opposition to the United States and our allies. The agreement also 
codified cooperation in areas such as trade, investment, and nuclear 
energy. DPRK rhetoric also continues to become more confrontational as 
the United States and the Republic of Korea conduct strategic exercises 
and bring strategic assets into the theater. The situation remains 
tense and any conflict on the Peninsula could involve multiple nuclear-
armed actors, thus raising the risk of escalation and nuclear 
employment.
    As of today, Iran does not possess a nuclear weapon and it remains 
the policy of the United States that Iran be denied a nuclear weapon 
and ICBM capability; however, Iran is expanding its nuclear program in 
concerning ways, to include producing highly enriched uranium. Iran 
continues to enhance military capabilities, holding the largest 
inventory of ballistic missiles in the region, and funds militia groups 
as well as terrorist organizations throughout the Middle East. Iran 
also continues to pursue destabilizing policies across the region, 
providing material and lethal support to a range of U.S.-designated 
terrorist organizations and militia groups. Iran's longstanding support 
to Hamas enabled the October 7th terrorist attack against Israel. 
Furthermore, Iran's continued support to the Houthis has enabled the 
ongoing attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden 
and numerous attacks on U.S. forces across the region.
    Most concerning are the increasing transactional relationships 
between nuclear-armed adversaries. This axis of aggressors continues to 
defy international law through technology exchanges, joint exercises, 
and mutual support. China and Russia's ``strategic partnership'' 
features extensive military cooperation, with China supplying crucial 
materials that bolsters Russia's defense industry. Iran provides Russia 
with drones and missiles, while the DPRK has sent vast quantities of 
arms, ammunition, and personnel. The continued cooperation raises the 
possibility of a multi-front war, which necessitates a reassessment of 
long-term defense strategies and escalation dynamics.
     facilities sustainment, restoration, and modernization (fsrm)
    The current Air Force Installation Infrastructure Action Plan 
highlights a critical vulnerability for AFGSC, most notably aging 
facilities and infrastructure coupled with consistent underinvestment 
in power projection platforms. Installations are increasingly 
susceptible to both adversarial threats and extreme weather 
environments, posing an unacceptable risk to the Striker mission. All 
of these concerns undermine global strike options for our Nation.
Weapons Generation Facilities and Weapon Storage Areas
    In addition to modernization of weapon systems, the command 
continues our long-term plan to recapitalize aging Weapon Storage Areas 
(WSAs) with facilities known as Weapons Generation Facilities (WGFs). 
These facilities fulfill a major security initiative for the command 
and help ensure nuclear security by significantly reducing operational, 
logistical, and munitions risk. The sequencing and timing of the WGF 
recapitalization efforts are driven by operational requirements and 
outdated WSA conditions. Of the seven planned, five are currently in 
the fiscal year 2025-29 Future-Years Defense Program and four are under 
construction. Of those under construction, two are bomber WGFs and two 
are ICBM WGFs. The WGF at Dyess Air Force Base (AFB) is planned for 
fiscal year 2028, and the design is scheduled to complete this fiscal 
year. F.E. Warren AFB has seen the first completed WGF and is scheduled 
to reach full operational capability (FOC) in early 2026. The timing 
and sequencing of the modernization endeavor are critical to sustaining 
credible deterrence while ensuring integration of and support to new 
mission weapon systems.
Supply Chain and Flying Hour Program Challenges
    Every weapon system that AFGSC provides must have a defense 
industrial base robust enough to support the sustainment of operational 
capabilities in order to maintain a credible deterrent against 
adversaries. Current and future weapon systems cannot withstand any 
further supply chain disruptions and must be funded to the maximum 
extent possible to restore supply chain resiliency. The Air Force must 
restore readiness and posture, so our platforms will be ready today and 
for the future.
    A critical shortage of parts is severely limiting the bomber 
execution of the fleet flying hour program. The shortage, driven by 
diminishing manufacturing sources, materiel shortages, long repair 
times, and a shrinking industrial base, is reflected in the rising 
Total Non-Mission Capable Supply rate, leading to increased downtime 
and cannibalization of parts from other aircraft. Current support and 
readiness spares packages are insufficient to meet operational demands. 
This parts crisis directly impacts essential maintenance, hindering 
both Programmed Depot Maintenance (PDM) and home-station work, reducing 
operational flexibility.
    Diminishing Manufacturing Sources and Material Shortages issues, 
the lack of vendor bids, and long lead times have resulted in delayed 
delivery of required parts. These issues have negatively affected 
Aircraft Availability (AA). Continued support of the Full-Scale Fatigue 
Testing is imperative to keep the B-52H airframe in use since it has 
surpassed its scheduled lifespan. Similarly, the Forward Intermediate 
Fuselage replacement for any high hour airframes must be pursued to 
maintain the current and future fleet size. We must continue to 
modernize the B-52H avionics systems to ensure compatibility in joint 
operations and global airspace.
    The E-4B National Airborne Operations Center (NAOC) provides a 
survivable command and control capability. The fleet is approaching 
end-of-service life and faces sustainment challenges. The low density/
high demand dynamic of the platform prioritizes AA as the E-4B 's top 
concern. Along with aircraft age, other factors include lengthening PDM 
times, diminished manufacturing sources, and parts obsolescence. 
Initiatives such as PDM flow optimization, KC-10 engine long-core 
procurement and overhaul, and recovering unused 747-200 parts from a 
NASA aircraft retirement action have shown some success toward 
mitigating known sustainment issues.
    The E-4B Program Office will also sustain and modernize mission 
system capabilities until the replacement platform, the Survivable 
Airborne Operations Center (SAOC), is operational. Current examples of 
successful ongoing modernization programs include a Low Frequency 
Transmit System, Family of Advanced Beyond Line-of-Sight Terminal and 
Survivable Super High Frequency systems. Additionally, as the E-4B gets 
closer to SAOC transition and subsequent end-of-life, AFGSC will 
balance modernization efforts and AA.
                               operations
ICBM Operations
    The modernization of the U.S. ICBM force is critical to maintaining 
a credible and effective nuclear deterrent. ICBMs are the most 
responsive leg of the U.S. nuclear triad providing rapid global strike 
capability. The Sentinel program is a massive undertaking that is 
pivotal to U.S. national security and represents the Air Force's most 
critical recapitalization effort to date. The sheer size, scale, and 
scope of this effort cannot be overstated as the entire system is being 
rebuilt from the ground up. Even with its inherent complexities, 
Sentinel remains essential to national security and there are no 
alternatives to the program that provide acceptable capability to meet 
joint requirements at less cost as certified by the Department of 
Defense (DoD) to Congress in 2024. By enhancing the accuracy, security, 
and reliability of the U.S. ICBM force, Sentinel will ensure the 
effectiveness of this critical leg of the U.S. nuclear triad.
ICBM Modernization Roadmap
    In 2024, the Sentinel program underwent a Nunn-McCurdy review to 
address cost overruns exceeding 37 percent. The Department's final 
Nunn-McCurdy estimate determined the cost increase to be 81 percent. In 
response, AFGSC immediately initiated a comprehensive review of both 
system requirements and Concept of Operations (CONOPS). The ongoing 
process focused on refining system requirements, operational concepts, 
and fostering collaboration between stakeholders to ensure a cost-
effective and successful modernization of the ICBM force.
    RV Modernization: The ICBM warhead stockpile continues to fulfill 
USSTRATCOM mission requirements beyond its planned lifespan. AFGSC 
engages in efforts with DOD partners to produce fuse replacements for 
the existing stockpile of Mk21s to support Sentinel initial operational 
capability (IOC). This effort not only strengthens the industrial base 
but also establishes a framework for future capabilities, ensuring the 
land-based leg of the nuclear triad remains a robust and adaptable 
strategic deterrent.
Collaborative Leadership for Sentinel Success
    Unified Approach: AFGSC and the Air Force Nuclear Weapons Center 
(AFNWC) have formed a strong partnership to address Sentinel challenges 
and accelerate ICBM modernization efforts. Leadership from both 
organizations collaborate regularly through integrated partner teams, 
General Officer Steering Groups, and Executive Steering Boards to 
proactively resolve issues and ensure alignment.
    Revalidated Requirements: Since July 2024, AFGSC has spearheaded an 
effort to revalidate and recertify all Sentinel requirements to 
maintain performance. The objective is to work toward a cost-effective 
strategy for the program, expected to be refined by the end of the 
year. All requirements were traced to source documentation for need and 
military utility. The collaborative effort between AFGSC and AFNWC 
assures the Sentinel program delivers a weapon system that meets all 
strategic requirements.
    Evolving Concept of Operations: The Sentinel CONOPS serves as a 
critical communication tool, clearly articulating operational 
requirements to both the acquisition community and contractors during 
the design phase. The Weapon System Requirements and current CONOPS 
were reviewed and signed in March 2025.
Site Activation Task Force (SATAF) Achievements
    In October 2024, the Sentinel program transitioned from Program 
Integration Offices to fully operational Task Force at F. E. Warren 
AFB, Malmstrom AFB, and Vandenberg Space Force Base (SFB). Minot AFB is 
progressing to establish its task force presence, marking a significant 
milestone in the program's execution. Simultaneously, Sentinel support 
facilities are undergoing preparations to accommodate Sentinel-assigned 
personnel and equipment at these bases, ensuring a smooth transition 
while safeguarding operational readiness of the MMIII weapon system.
Local engagements
    The Director of ICBM Modernization continues to take a holistic 
approach to Sentinel education and socialization by visiting the three 
missile wings and engaging in dialog with community members. These 
engagements offer an opportunity to address concerns from the local 
population and leaders within the areas impacted by the Sentinel weapon 
system. These conversations will continue with community town hall 
meetings through 2025.
    While many aspects of the Sentinel program are going right, we must 
remain vigilant and fully committed to the unparalleled 
recapitalization of a critical component of our national security. 
Maintaining the MMIII weapon system while concurrently bringing 
Sentinel online demands careful and sustained attention. The Sentinel 
program is not just about modernization--it is about preserving peace 
through strength.
                        security response forces
    Our nuclear security teams, comprised of steadfast and highly 
trained professionals, stand ready to defend our Nation's nuclear 
arsenal. However, they face a rapidly evolving threat landscape that 
requires constant adaptation and support. Our leaders are actively 
addressing the complex challenges of organizing, training, and 
equipping these defenders to meet current and emerging threats, from 
countering unmanned aerial system (UAS) activity to operating in 
extreme weather conditions at our bomber and missile bases. Their 
crucial mission demands unwavering focus and investment as it remains 
central to USSTRATCOM operational plans and national security.
    To enhance the safety and lethality of our Security Forces, AFGSC 
is modernizing its vehicle fleet. This modernization effort directly 
addresses serious safety concerns surrounding the aging Up-Armored High 
Mobility Multi-Purpose Wheeled Vehicles (UAHMMWV), a platform 
tragically linked to multiple fatal rollover accidents at AFGSC ICBM 
wings, resulting in the loss of two defenders in 2023 and 2024. The 
Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV) is a modern and improved tactical 
vehicle providing better field of view, suspension systems, and modern 
safety features compared to the currently employed UAHMMWV. I continue 
to request congressional support to field AUVs to reduce the risk of 
mishaps and unnecessary loss of life.
    As AFGSC navigates these modernization efforts, the arrival of the 
MH-139A Grey Wolf marks a positive step toward strengthening the 
security posture of the ground-based nuclear deterrent. The MH-139A 
provides greater speed, range, and carrying capacity above the current 
UH-IN fleet. Following successful testing, the MH-139A is on track for 
IOC in 2025, with full deployment across all ICBM bases by 2027.
    As of February 2025, 13 MH-139A helicopters have been delivered--
seven to Malmstrom AFB, three to Maxwell AFB, and two are in retrofit 
status for the environmental control system and radio. The current buy 
profile procures 19 aircraft, 11 of which will field at Malmstrom AFB 
and eight at Maxwell AFB by August 2025. The arrival of the MH-139 Grey 
Wolf marks a decisive upgrade for AFGSC, bringing a more lethal 
presence to the defense of the ground-based nuclear deterrent.
Counter-Unmanned Aerial Systems
    Since 2016, AFGSC, with crucial backing from USSTRATCOM, has made 
strides in counter-unmanned aircraft technology to strengthen our 
national deterrence. During 2024, two U.S. military bases experienced 
security breaches involving UAS, raising concerns about this growing 
threat. In August, multiple UAS conducted a week-long surveillance 
operation over Plant 42 in California, potentially gathering 
intelligence on classified projects. In November, a Chinese citizen was 
apprehended for using a UAS to photograph Vandenberg SFB. These 
incidents underscore the vulnerability of military installations to UAS 
surveillance and the potential compromise of national security.
    We must match our capabilities to the threats we face. The Joint 
Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft Systems C-sUAS Office and Office of the 
Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment lead the overall 
DOD effort to combat current and future UAS threats, and United States 
Northern Command is the synchronizer for Counter-UAS (c-UAS) efforts in 
the Homeland. In recognition of this growing challenge, the Department 
launched Replicator-2, a whole-of-department and interagency effort to 
improve c-sUAS protection for critical assets, largely centered on the 
Homeland (CONUS). AFGSC is actively contributing to these efforts as 
well as leveraging internal innovation endeavors to seek solutions for 
the specific challenges our forces face from UAS, especially as they 
relate to operations in the ICBM missile fields and defense of our WSAs 
and WGFs. As we modernize our nuclear capabilities over the coming 
decade, we must also prioritize modernizing our defenses against UAS 
threats.
                           bomber operations
    The United States must maintain military superiority by integrating 
new technologies while sustaining existing capabilities. AFGSC will 
work with the Secretary of the Air Force's staff to obtain waivers of 
the 5-year ``sunset'' prohibition on modernizing aircraft scheduled to 
retire, (as codified in Section 2244a of Title 10) as doing so is 
clearly in the national security interest of the United States. 
Leveraging this statutory authority for the B-2A is essential to 
maintaining long-range global strike nuclear deterrent capabilities 
while completing modernization programs impacting all Air Force 
bombers.
Nuclear Requirements and Conventional Long-Range Strike Mission
    Conventional long-range strike capabilities are equally important 
and must evolve to address emerging threats. AFGSC must maintain the 
ability to hold any target at risk, anywhere in the world, at any time. 
Our airmen routinely demonstrate this capability through CONUS-to-CONUS 
missions and BTF deployments, reinforcing allied confidence and 
deterring adversary aggression. The future of conventional long-range 
strike will be shaped by a two-tiered approach. The B-21 Raider and its 
family of systems will provide advanced stand-in capabilities by 
leveraging next-generation stealth, sensing, and precision-strike 
technology to penetrate contested environments. Simultaneously, the B-
52H, armed with the Standoff Attack Weapon, will deliver massed fires 
from outside heavily defended areas. This integrated force will enable 
AFGSC to generate a persistent, scalable, and lethal global strike 
capability, ensuring dominance across the spectrum of conflict.
B-21 Raider
    The B-21 is the most exquisite weapon system ever built. At its 
core, the B-21 enhances deterrence by ensuring the United States can 
hold any target worldwide at risk, even in contested regions protected 
by sophisticated air defense systems. We are building on lessons 
learned from the B-2A to give the B-21 a survivability edge in high-
threat environments. The B-21's ability to penetrate and persist in 
hostile airspace makes it uniquely suited for both deterrence and, if 
needed, decisive action.
    Beyond its combat capability, the B-21's strategic value is 
amplified by its role in a broader network of systems. This makes it 
more than just a bomber--it is a force multiplier that enhances 
situational awareness and joint operations. Its design also emphasizes 
adaptability, with a modular structure and digital engineering that 
allow rapid upgrades to counter new threats, ensuring relevance for 
decades.
    From the outset, the B-21 program has leaned forward and considered 
sustainment while the design was in development. As a result of those 
early considerations, the B-21 program is ahead of schedule on certain 
portions such as technological data, product support, and material 
readiness. Affordability, combined with easier maintenance due to 
advancements in stealth coatings and manufacturing, supports a larger, 
more sustainable fleet, which will be key for deterring adversaries who 
might otherwise exploit any gaps a smaller force could create. We must 
continue looking at how to right-size the bomber fleet to meet the 
demands the Nation is asking of it.
    The B-21's dual nuclear and conventional capabilities are critical 
as competitors seek to challenge us by operating below nuclear 
thresholds. As a result, the United States must also deter using 
conventional weapons tailored to meet the needs and capabilities of the 
B-21; if we lose the ability to deter malicious regional actions via a 
combination of stand-in and standoff, nuclear, and conventional 
effects, we play into adversary anti-access/area denial aspirations. 
The B-21's fusion of stealth, versatility, scalability, and enduring 
design strengthens U.S. deterrence, ensures credible response 
capabilities, and offers cost-effective modernization for maintaining 
tactical and strategic advantage in the 21st century. The success of 
the B-21 Raider program is a testament to the unprecedented 
collaboration among our military and civilian experts. The seamless 
integration of operational, acquisition, and industry professionals--
specifically, the mighty Eighth Air Force, the Rapid Capabilities 
Office, and Northrop Grumman--is the driving force behind this 
program's remarkable progress. This synergistic partnership enables us 
to develop and field the world's most advanced platform unrivaled in 
its ability to project power globally at a time and place of our 
choosing.
B-2A
    The B-2A is the USAF's sole penetrating bomber, providing unmatched 
stealth and strike capability, making it a cornerstone of both 
conventional and nuclear deterrence. Targeted modernization in low 
observable signature and supportability modifications, communications 
upgrades, and weapons delivery ensures the B-2A maintains its lethal 
edge through B-21 fielding. The Adaptable Communications Suite is 
entering test and evaluation with efforts to accelerate fielding in 
fiscal year 2026. The B-2A Displays Modernization Program is currently 
in test and evaluation and is anticipated to enter the Production and 
Deployment Phase (Milestone-C) in 4Qfiscal year 2025, alleviating the 
second Mission Impaired Capability Awaiting Parts driver for the B-2A 
fleet. These modernization efforts are essential to bridge the 
capability gap until the B-21 reaches FOC.
B-1B
    The B-1B platform remains a conventional force workhorse until the 
B-21s are fully fielded. Time and again, B-1Bs have taken the lead in 
combat, demonstrating their critical role in combat operations. This, 
in addition to their enduring participation in the DOD's BTFs, is 
designed to demonstrate that the United States can reach any target in 
the world with minimal risk to its forces. The B-1B is currently 
undergoing the most significant modernization program in its 30-year 
history. Through the B-1 Embracing Agile Scheduling Team program, the 
B-1B received a suite of accelerated upgrades, including enhanced 
friend-or-foe identification, more secure communications, and improved 
defensive systems. The program also introduced valuable new tools like 
a modernized simulator and digital twin technology, enabling more 
effective training and proactive maintenance. As both a proven combat 
platform and a cornerstone of future deterrence strategies, the B-1B 
will remain a vital asset for projecting American airpower well into 
the 21st century.
B-52H
    The B-52H Stratofortress remains the backbone of the USAF, 
providing unmatched long-range strike capability and heavy payload 
capacity for the past 70 years. Even today, the B-52H continues to 
demonstrate its relevance in operations around the world. To ensure the 
B-52H can continue to deliver this level of combat power for decades to 
come, AFGSC is undertaking major modernization efforts for its aging B-
52H fleet, aiming to extend its service life beyond 2050. This includes 
re-engining the bomber with Rolls-Royce Fl30 turbofans, upgrading its 
radar to an Active Electronically Scanned Array system for improved 
reliability and mission effectiveness, and procuring a new Weapon 
System Trainer to simulate future B-52H configurations and 
capabilities. The B-52H's modernization into the B-52J platform is not 
just about upgrades--it is essential for viability of the bomber.
    Even as we upgrade to the more lethal B-52J, global demand for BTFs 
is surging, not subsiding. B-52H deployments showcase the importance 
the United States places on assuring Allies and partners as the visible 
presence of our bombers, airmen, and integrated operations provides a 
critical deterrent against potential adversaries. This demand for a 
strong, responsive bomber presence will only intensify in the coming 
years, making our modernization efforts all the more urgent.
    Air-Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) to Long Range Standoff (LRSO)
    The Air Force is replacing its aging ALCM with the LRSO weapon, 
which is being designed, developed, and deployed as a modern nuclear-
capable cruise missile. The LRSO program is progressing well, having 
achieved a successful design review and currently undergoing flight 
testing.
                       airborne operations center
    AFGSC's NC3 architecture connects our Commander-in-Chief and 
command authorities to forces around the globe, before and during 
conflict. One component in this NC3 network is the NAOC, which is 
always on alert to connect the President, Secretary of Defense, 
Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff, and senior leaders.
    The E-4B Program Office will sustain and modernize mission system 
capabilities as necessary through the transition period until the 
replacement platform is operational. The Sierra Nevada Corporation--
SAOC contract is progressing well. Three aircraft were received in 
April 2025, and we are on track to receive an additional two in 
September 2025. The Integrated Baseline Review was completed in October 
2024 and the System Requirements Review and Digital Data Package 
process are both on track. The SAOC program stands to mitigate all 
issues within the current NAOC fleet as well as serve as a next-
generation aircraft that will be postured to directly support the 
President, the Secretary of Defense, and the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff well into the future.
    This need for reliable command and control is met in part by the 
newly activated 95th Wing, which brings together specialized units to 
ensure seamless execution of strategic operations. The 95th Wing now 
provides combatant commanders with assured command and control (C2) 
over assigned forces through global command, control, and communication 
capabilities. The wing organizes, trains, and equips the total force to 
execute strategic requirements as set forth by commanders.
    Operating under 8th Air Force and AFGSC, the 95th Wing incorporates 
existing units from across different components of the Air Force. These 
include the 595th Command and Control Group, the 253d Command and 
Control Group; and the 610th Command and Control Squadron. This 
integration forms a cohesive and powerful unit.
           nuclear command, control, and communications (nc3)
    AFGSC plays a critical role in ensuring robust NC3 capabilities. We 
are responsible for the Strategic Readiness and effectiveness of our 
Air Force's nuclear deterrent forces, which hinges on reliable NC3. 
These efforts ensure vital NC3 systems are integrated into my portion 
of our Nation's strategic nuclear enterprises.
    Furthermore, AFGSC and the United States Space Force (USSF) have 
critical interdependency when it comes to NC3. Space-based assets are 
integral to NC3 by providing early warning of missile launches and 
enabling swift decisionmaking and response options. Satellites provide 
secure communication channels between national leaders and nuclear 
forces, ensuring reliable transmission of orders and information. 
Through coordinated efforts, AFGSC and USSF unlock amplified 
capabilities that exponentially enhance the effectiveness and 
resilience of the Nation's strategic deterrence. For example, AFGSC is 
integrating the Advanced Extremely High Frequency system into our 
ICBMs, bomber forces, and command posts. AFGSC is also advancing 
efforts to enhance survivable beyond-line-of sight communications for 
the bomber force, including the development of High-Speed Terminals.
    Additionally, we continue reexamining legacy technologies through a 
modern lens. Long established high-frequency waveforms are now 
benefiting from digital software-defined radios, which enhance 
performance and provide critical redundancy in the event of space-based 
system failures. In the Very Low Frequency domain, we continue to 
modernize our receivers with smaller, plug-and-play replacement 
solutions that enable seamless upgrades while maintaining compliance 
with cryptographic standards. Additionally, our Senior Leader Network 
remains a vital asset, ensuring strategic decisionmakers in Washington 
have reliable worldwide communications and services in times of crises.
    NC3 is the cornerstone of America's deterrence posture. AFGSC 
continues to leverage industry and academia to pursue next-generation 
technologies including protected satellite communications for secure 
connectivity, artificial intelligence (AI) powered cyber defense for 
real-time threat detection and mitigation, and integrated multi-domain 
command and control for faster, more adaptable agile decisionmaking. 
Every day, AFGSC hones this strategic capability, ensuring that if 
called upon, we will be ready.
                          airmen and families
    The unwavering dedication of our Striker Airmen, who work 
tirelessly 24/7, truly enables AFGSC to stand ready to face any 
challenge or threat, even as our advanced weapons systems and 
modernization efforts capture global attention.
Innovation
    Maintaining our competitive edge demands a steadfast commitment to 
innovation, a commitment embodied by our resourceful and dedicated 
Airmen. STRIKEWERX, the Global Strike innovation hub, stands as a 
testament to this commitment. Recognizing that our airmen are our 
greatest asset, we have fostered an environment where ingenuity can 
flourish. We connect Airmen with industry experts and academia, 
sparking partnerships that drive rapid and impactful technological 
improvements.
    We continue to adapt and adopt inexpensive commercial sector 
technologies, including improving bomber pilot training, modernizing 
bomber crew alert communications, training for emergency situations 
more realistically, and providing our security forces with more 
effective technology as they secure our nuclear capability. Airman 
ideas have produced tangible results, including operationally fielded 
B-52H engine pod covers and deployable maintenance structures to 
facilitate operations in frigid conditions at our northern bases. This 
ability to rapidly translate innovative ideas into executable solutions 
underscores AFGSC's dedication to equipping warfighters with leading-
edge technologies.
    To combat recurring engine failures in B-52Hs at Minot AFB caused 
by extreme cold, engineers developed a new engine inlet cover design 
incorporating a heating duct. This initiative, culminating in the 
``Strike Tank 2023'' project approved in October 2023, saw delivery of 
testable prototypes by June 2024. These covers, offering full engine 
encapsulation and a heating mechanism, proved so effective that 12 were 
immediately procured for operational testing. By August 2024, the 
success of the covers led to equipping the entire Minot B-52H fleet. 
This proactive solution saves an estimated 7,500 maintenance hours per 
year and prevents costly engine damage, showcasing a remarkable return 
on investment in operational readiness.
    In addition, we are empowering Airmen to harness the power of data 
analytics and AI. The Command uses AI to project trends in operational 
status and quickly address and identify problem areas. Our use of 
centrally funded Air Force cloud platforms brings together enterprise 
and Command data to inform the Commander's risk assessment. The Command 
uses commercial AI/machine learning offerings within the USAF data 
fabric to accelerate business processes. AFGSC is also one of the most 
prolific users of robotic process automation tools in the USAF. By 
providing access to cutting-edge tools and training, we enable Global 
Strike Airmen to develop and leverage secure cloud-based applications 
that streamline processes and maximize the efficiency and effectiveness 
of our personnel.
Missile Community Cancer Study
    The health and well-being of our Airmen and their families is a top 
priority. This is why AFGSC teamed up with the USAF School of Aerospace 
Medicine (USAFSAM) in 2023 to conduct a thorough investigation to 
address concerns about a possible link between working on missile 
fields and cancer. The Missile Cancer Community Study includes a 
comprehensive environmental analysis. Over 2,400 samples are being 
collected and analyzed in three phases across three Missile Wings and 
Vandenberg SFB. With two rounds of sampling already completed, the 
investigation revealed trace amounts of polychlorinated biphenyls 
(PCBs) exceeding the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) recommended 
threshold on 4 out of 1205 total surface swipe samples. To ensure the 
safety and well-being of our Airmen, Missile Alert Facilities with PCBs 
above the EPA threshold were promptly and thoroughly cleaned. They have 
since passed rigorous safety inspections and are now back in full 
operation. Initial findings from phases IA and 1B of the epidemiologic 
study have shown no increase in cancer rates among our Missile 
Community compared to the non-Missile Community or the general U.S. 
population. This includes data on 14 common cancers.
    Additionally, Phase 1C did not identify a statistically significant 
elevated mortality of these cancers in the Missile Community when 
compared to the general U.S. population. While the initial phases of 
our study have been reassuring, we are committed to gathering the most 
comprehensive data possible. To that end, we are incorporating State 
cancer registries into the second phase of our study to gain a complete 
understanding of potential health risks within the Missile Community. 
Phase 2, scheduled for completion by the end of 2025, will offer a more 
complete and detailed analysis of cancer incidence within the Missile 
Community. AFGSC is actively engaging with leading health organizations 
such as the USAFSAM, the Defense Centers for Public Health, and 
Veterans Affairs throughout this process. To ensure full transparency, 
we hold quarterly town hall meetings, provide updates on a dedicated 
webpage, and share findings with stakeholders to ensure our Airmen and 
families are informed. We understand this is about more than just 
data--it is about the health and peace of mind of our Airmen, their 
families, and our veterans. We are unwavering in our commitment to 
providing them with clear, accurate information and ensure complete 
transparency throughout this process. They deserve nothing less.
Professional Military Education and Development
    Building a culture of excellence and pride within AFGSC is key to 
maintaining the warrior ethos and achieving mission success. My AFGSC 
Force Development Division is committed to providing our personnel with 
the knowledge, skills, and experiences necessary to excel and lead our 
command with distinction.
    AFGSC partners with Air University to modernize Professional 
Military Education (PME), particularly Intermediate Developmental 
Education (IDE). Our flagship effort is the School of Advanced Nuclear 
Deterrence Studies at Air Command and Staff College, which develops 
deterrence and assurance experts equipped to advise senior leaders 
across the DOD. AFGSC also participated in the successful Agile 
Learning pilot program, an IDE modernization initiative focused on 
flexible, mission-relevant learning experiences. Building on this 
success, AFGSC is committed to exploring the full potential of 
innovative programs like Agile Learning. Beyond officer PME, AFGSC 
provides high-quality professional development opportunities for 
enlisted Airmen, including unique, mission-focused content incorporated 
into Enlisted
    Robust pre-command education is also critical. The Nuclear 
Stewardship Executive Course provides Group and Wing Commanders and 
their Senior Enlisted Leaders with a deep understanding of their 
nuclear mission responsibilities. Our AFGSC Command Team Course unites 
Squadron Commanders and their Senior Enlisted Leaders, forging a shared 
understanding and purpose. Through this course, they gain the knowledge 
and skills to lead their squadrons as one cohesive force, effectively 
executing this critical mission. We continuously assess and refine our 
pre-command education to ensure relevance and efficacy in preparing 
commanders for the complexities of the nuclear enterprise.
    In addition to education and training, AFGSC offers coveted 
internships-including AFGSC Intern, Striker Trident, Striker Titan, and 
Striker Trailblazer-providing exceptional officers, enlisted personnel, 
and civilian Airmen with invaluable hands-on experience in the nuclear 
enterprise. The Academic Partnerships in Nuclear Education program 
collaborates with academic institutions to provide Airmen access to 
advanced education in fields like defense and strategic studies, 
nuclear deterrence, and engineering management.
    These initiatives, alongside our Air Force Reserve Officer Training 
Corps Summer Internship Program, are key to attracting and developing 
top talent for AFGSC. By cultivating an environment where individuals 
are recognized and rewarded based on their abilities, performance, and 
contributions, we aim to attract the best and brightest. Upholding 
rigorous standards for our Airmen is non-negotiable, as it directly 
contributes to mission accomplishment and the long-term health of our 
command.
    To encourage individual drive, recognize excellence, and cultivate 
a strong sense of pride within its ranks, AFGSC is exploring various 
strategic initiatives focused on enhancing both talent management and 
retention rates. The Personnel Division has launched a series of 
``sprints'' to rapidly analyze data and assess recommendations that 
will enhance transparency in the assignment process, as well as 
incentivize AFGSC bases.
    AFGSC is working on restoring recurring Career Field Health 
Briefings and expanding the Commander's Nuclear Focus list to include 
additional Air Force Specialty Codes (AFSCs). In line with improving 
retention, AFGSC reevaluated Selective Reenlistment Bonus (SRB) 
multipliers based on recommendations from the RAND study and updating 
related policies. The input from key AFSCs regarding SRB adjustments is 
under review.
    AFGSC addressed quality of life by introducing a one-time cold 
weather pay incentive for Airmen stationed at northern tier locations 
such as Malmstrom and Minot AFB, effective from 1 April 2024. In 
addition, AFGSC with assistance from the Assistant Secretary of the Air 
Force for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, instituted a civilian retention 
incentive in order to retain top civilian talent. The 10 percent 
monetary incentive is calculated as a percentage of the employee's rate 
of basic pay.
    These initiatives prioritize transparency, flexibility, and 
competitive compensation to effectively align talent management with 
the demanding requirements of the Strategic Nuclear Deterrence mission. 
By investing in its Airmen, AFGSC reaffirms its commitment to its 
workforce and strengthens America's fighting force.
Defense Health Agency
    The current State of healthcare within AFGSC needs attention. The 
Defense Health Agency (DHA) recently reorganized and established a 
Personnel Reliability Program Tiger Team to address gaps that could 
jeopardize the readiness of our Airmen and their families, particularly 
with the impending B-21 bed-down at Ellsworth AFB. While the Tiger Team 
addressed some concerns, the lack of a Surety Support Coordination Cell 
highlights a lack of uniformity. Chronic underfunding and staffing 
shortages across the Military Health System worsen our DHA's ability to 
provide timely and quality care. This chronic instability, resulting in 
hundreds vacant positions at MTFs on Air Force Bases, directly impacts 
mission readiness and reduces access to care for military families.
                               conclusion
    AFGSC stands at a watershed moment. The world is watching as we 
simultaneously sustain aging cold war systems and usher in a new era of 
strategic deterrence. We are modernizing at a significant pace while 
ensuring legacy systems remain ready to answer the Nation's call. We 
are tackling challenges head-on, including aging infrastructure, supply 
chain disruptions, or the need to counter evolving threats like UAS. 
Through it all, our greatest strength remains our Striker Airmen--the 
heart and soul of AFGSC. Their dedication, innovation, and resilience 
are the driving force behind our success. However, we cannot afford to 
be complacent and must remain vigilant in the face of growing threats. 
We must continue to invest in our people, ensuring they have the 
resources, training, and support they need to carry out their critical 
mission. With unwavering commitment to our mission and steadfast 
congressional support, AFGSC will continue to deter aggression, assure 
Allies, and safeguard our Nation's security, now and into the future.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General. Admiral Wolfe, good to 
see you.
    Admiral Wolfe. And good to see you.
    Senator Fischer. Welcome.

 STATEMENT OF VICE ADMIRAL JOHNNY R. WOLFE, JR., USN DIRECTOR 
                 FOR STRATEGIC SYSTEMS PROGRAMS

    Admiral Wolfe. Chairwoman Fischer, Ranking Member King, and 
distinguished Members of this Subcommittee, it is an honor to 
be here and a privilege to continue representing the 
servicemembers, civilians, and families of the Navy Strategic 
Systems Programs, SSP. I'd like to thank Congress for its 
continued support in providing us with the resources required 
to execute our assigned mission. I have submitted my posture 
statement for the record.
    I'll begin by assuring you that the Navy's nuclear forces, 
the bedrock of our national security are safe, secure, 
effective, and credible. As the Navy command that provides cost 
effective, safe, and secure, sea-based strategic deterrent 
solutions, SSP is entrusted to provide cradle to grave 
lifecycle support to three critical programs.
    The Trident II(D5) Strategic Weapons System, the Navy's 
Conventional Prompt Strike Hypersonic program, and the Nuclear 
Armed Sea Launch Cruise Missile, SLCM-N program. These are 
three of the Nation's highest priority acquisition programs and 
with your support, they ensure the Navy is delivering peace 
through strength.
    SSP ensures the highest levels of readiness and 
modernization for the Trident Strategic Weapon System, which 
underlies our national strategy to deter any adversary who 
threatens United States, our allies, or our interest. As the 
most survivable leg of the triad, the ballistic missile 
submarine force represents a substantial portion of our 
Nation's deployed nuclear warheads, providing an unyielding 
foundation for assured response against any adversary.
    The Navy strategic deterrent stands at a critical juncture. 
To maintain our advantage in the face of evolving threats, we 
must prioritize the modernization of our nuclear infrastructure 
and industrial base. A strong domestic industrial base is the 
foundation of a credible deterrent. Using resources authorized 
by this committee, SSP is actively working to revitalize this 
natural interest, ensuring the timely production and delivery 
of critical strategic weapon system components while fostering 
American jobs and technological superiority.
    Our modernization needs cannot succeed without investing in 
research and development. The critical skills for our workforce 
and the facilities needed to produce, sustain, and certify our 
strategic systems. Our infrastructure is also at an inflection 
point. Existing facilities are reaching their 30-year 
recapitalization windows as we enter into a once in a 
generation transition of both the Trident Strategic Weapons 
System and the Ballistic Missile Submarine Platform. In 
accordance with the fiscal year 2024 NDAA, SSP has established 
a SLCM-N program office and over the past year, we have focused 
on conducting the assessments needed to deliver a weapon system 
that meets war fighters' needs.
    Executing this program requires a careful balancing of 
resources to ensure existing critical Navy and Air Force 
programs of record and our submarine fleet are not adversely 
impacted. SSPs mission, strategic deterrence, is critical to 
this Nation. It is the foundation of the National Defense 
Strategy and is a top priority of the Department of Defense.
    In order to accomplish all of all three national missions, 
SSP relies on a relatively small number of trained, skilled 
employees, and it is critical that my command is able to 
appropriately staff its workforce with these highly specialized 
technical experts. People are as foundational to our nuclear 
deterrent as the strategic weapons themselves.
    As the 14th Director of Strategic Systems programs, I have 
absolute faith and confidence in the safety, security, 
effectiveness, and credibility of our Nation's strategic 
deterrent due to the proficiency and professionalism of the 
dedicated service members and civilians who have made strategic 
deterrence their life's work. With continued congressional 
support and stable on-time funding, the Navy will continue to 
effectively defend our Nation and preserve peace for future 
generations.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify and I look forward 
to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Wolfe follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Vice Admiral Johnny Wolfe
                              introduction
    Strategic Systems Programs' (SSP) mission is to deter strategic 
attack by providing credible and affordable nuclear and non-nuclear 
capabilities to the Warfighter to underwrite the security of our 
Nation. As the Navy command that provides cost-effective, safe, and 
secure sea-based strategic deterrence solutions, the SSP team is 
entrusted to provide cradle-to-grave lifecycle support to three 
critical programs: the Trident II D5 Strategic Weapon System (SWS), 
Conventional Prompt Strike (CPS) hypersonics, and the Nuclear-Armed 
Sea-Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM-N) programs.
    The U.S. nuclear triad's most survivable leg is provided by the 
sea-based strategic deterrent (SBSD). This force represents a 
substantial portion of our Nation's deployed nuclear warheads, 
providing an unyielding foundation for assured response against any 
adversary. The SBSD encompasses a formidable network of assets: the 
strategic nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) force, the 
Trident II SWS and its associated nuclear warheads, the Navy Nuclear 
Command, Control, and Communications systems, and the crucial shore-
based maintenance and security infrastructure. Underpinning these 
capabilities is a wide-ranging industrial base, ensuring the 
sustainment and modernization of this vital deterrent for decades to 
come.
              maintaining unmatched strength and lethality
    SSP's core mission supporting the sea-based leg of the nuclear 
triad comprises two fundamental lines of effort: the safety and 
security of our Nation's strategic assets entrusted to the Navy; and 
the design, development, production, and sustainment of the Navy's SWS. 
We strive to maintain a culture of excellence, underpinned by rigorous 
self-assessment, to achieve the highest standards of performance and 
integrity for personnel supporting the strategic deterrent mission. We 
focus unrelentingly on our tremendous responsibility for the custody 
and accountability of our Nation's nuclear assets. The men and women of 
SSP, our Sailors, our Marines, our Navy Masters at Arms, our Coast 
Guardsmen, and our industry partners remain dedicated to supporting the 
strategic deterrence mission, ready to respond to the emerging needs of 
our Warfighter, and committed to protecting and safeguarding our 
Nation's assets with which we are entrusted. Thank you to the 
congressional defense committees for your unwavering and continuing 
support for our critical mission.
    The safety, security and reliability of the Navy's nuclear weapons 
is SSP's highest priority. The SSP flight test program measures 
performance and reliability of the SWS in order to ensure military 
effectiveness. SSP has successfully conducted 193 flight tests of the 
Trident II missile--the most recent of which occurred in April 2025. 
Furthermore, the Navy strictly complies with the Nuclear Weapons Surety 
Standard for all nuclear weapons in its custody and regularly evaluates 
itself to ensure we are meeting those standards. The Trident II program 
is safe, secure, and highly reliable.
        ssp priorities: lethality, warfighting, homeland defense
    SSP approaches our mission through the lens of our three main 
priorities:
      Lethality: SSP ensures the highest levels of readiness 
and modernization for the Trident II (D5) SWS, providing critical 
support to the U.S. national strategy to deter any adversary who 
threatens the United States, our allies, or our interests.
      Warfighting: Our unwavering focus on designing, 
developing, and deploying the most advanced SLBM, SLCM-N, and 
hypersonic technology ensures the U.S. Navy maintains its competitive 
edge in an increasingly contested maritime domain.
      Homeland Defense: As the most survivable leg of the 
nuclear triad, the SBSD, under SSP's stewardship, stands constant, 
providing an unshakeable deterrent against attack on our Homeland.
                          state of the program
    Today's strategic nuclear triad benefits from the strategic 
foresight and the decisions of those who have come before. Strategic 
investment into a nuclear weapons support infrastructure promoted both 
the safety and longevity of the SWS as well as the high levels of 
security required for weapons of such importance. After seven decades 
of use, the Navy must revitalize and build the capacity that will allow 
this infrastructure to continue to meet Warfighter requirements in the 
face of evolving threats. In addition to revitalizing legacy 
infrastructure to sustain SWS shore operations, the Nuclear Enterprise, 
and SSP in particular, must prioritize expanded and new infrastructure 
to promote the safety, security, efficacy, and credibility of the SWS 
through 2084. These investments will be made in weapon design and 
development capacity, transportation and storage infrastructure, 
technical operations, and nuclear weapons security facilities.
    A minimum of 12 Columbia-class SSBNs, each equipped with 16 missile 
tubes, will replace the current fleet of 14 Ohio-class SSBNs, each 
equipped with 20 operational missile tubes (in accordance with the New 
START Treaty). The continued demonstrated high performance of the SWS 
will ensure the Columbia-class meets U.S. Strategic Command 
(USSTRATCOM) direction to meet requirements derived from Presidential 
guidance. A decrease in demonstrated performance could impact the 
Navy's ability to meet USSTRATCOM requirements, which establish the 
minimum force necessary to deter adversary attack against the Homeland 
and to provide the President with an assured survivable second-strike 
capability. For this reason, the Navy must maintain a robust Ohio-class 
SSBN age management program to avoid a degradation in mission 
capabilities in the transition as the Columbia-class SSBN prepares to 
enter service.
    The SBSD stands at a critical juncture. Decades of strategic 
foresight have delivered an unparalleled capability; but to maintain 
our advantage in the face of evolving threats, we must prioritize the 
modernization of our nuclear infrastructure and industrial base. SSP 
will continue to balance the following priorities as we move into a new 
era of balancing sustainment and new programs:
      Prioritizing Modernization: With their advanced 
capabilities, the Columbia-class SSBN combined with its Trident SWS, 
represent a generational leap forward in our undersea deterrent. With 
improvements in the SSBN platform come upgrades to the SWS as well--
both the Trident missile and its warhead. SSP is fully committed to 
ensuring a seamless transition from the Ohio-class SSBN, leveraging 
existing infrastructure while modernizing the SWS to meet the demands 
of the future.
      Revitalizing the Industrial Base: A strong domestic 
industrial base is the bedrock of a credible deterrent. SSP is actively 
working to revitalize this vital national asset, ensuring the timely 
production and delivery of critical SWS components while fostering 
American jobs and technological superiority.
      Confronting Emerging Threats: In light of the ever 
evolving threat landscape, SSP is fully committed to investing in 
strategic deterrence technologies, including SLCM-N and conventional 
hypersonics, and strategies to protect our strategic assets from those 
who seek to undermine our national security.
      Balancing Systems Integration: SSP is the system 
integrator for the SWS. This requires our civilian workforce with 
critical knowledge of design, development, and sustainment to 
collaborate with industry partners in support of nuclear modernization.
 sws sustainment on ohio-class ssbn and procurement for columbia-class 
                                  ssbn
    The 14 ship Ohio-class fleet remains the backbone of U.S. strategic 
deterrence, carrying approximately 70 percent of the U.S.'s New START 
Treaty-accountable deployed nuclear warheads in the form of the W76 and 
W88 families of warheads. Originally designed for a 30-year service 
life, the Ohio-class submarines were called upon to extend this service 
to 42 years, supporting a delay in investment in the next generation of 
SSBNs. To account for this extension in service life, SSP embarked on a 
life extension program for the Trident II D5 missile to update 
critical, aging missile electronics systems. SSP introduced the first 
Trident II D5 Life Extension (D5LE) program to the fleet in 2017 and 
the missile will remain an effective and credible SWS into the 2040's--
supporting the Ohio-class submarine through end of service life and 
serving as the initial SWS for the Columbia- and UK Dreadnought-class 
SSBNs.
    In parallel, SSP's program efforts and collaboration with the UK 
through the Polaris Sales Agreement, as amended (PSA) and Mutual 
Defense Agreement, as amended (MDA) support the UK's Continuous At Sea 
Deterrent through Vanguard-class SSBN end of service life and the 
transition to a Dreadnought-class SSBN fleet.
    To meet these critical program responsibilities, SSP will sustain 
our deployed systems and modernize for our new ones, ensuring that we 
continue to keep the Navy's nuclear weapons safe and secure. We will 
develop and protect our logistics supply chain. Through these measures, 
SSP will continue to unlock new capabilities that the Warfighter can 
leverage to enhance strategic deterrence and act decisively should 
deterrence fail.
           trident ii d5 life extension and life extension 2
    The Trident II D5 Life Extension 2 (D5LE2) program is essential to 
maintaining a credible SBSD through the life of the Columbia-class 
SSBN. This program will:
      Extend Service Life: D5LE2 will replace the D5 and D5LE 
missiles to align with the Columbia-class, ensuring a credible at-sea 
deterrent for decades to come.
      Enhance Capabilities: Using a hybrid approach of 
leveraging existing reliable technology and integrating cutting-edge 
advancements, D5LE2 will have the flexibility to counter emerging 
threats throughout its life.
      Strengthen the Industrial Base: D5LE2 is a critical 
driver in revitalizing our domestic industrial base, ensuring the 
availability of critical components and supporting American jobs.
    As the Navy carefully manages the approach to end of life of our 
Ohio-class SSBNs, we have assessed how we can ensure the SWS is 
available throughout the life of the Columbia-class SSBNs. A minimum of 
12 Columbia-class SSBNs will replace today's 14 Ohio-class SSBNs, and 
beginning in fiscal year 2030, we will load current D5LE missiles on 
Hulls 1 through 8 of Columbia-class SSBNs. Production of additional 
D5LE missiles is not practical due to obsolete parts and the current 
lack of a robust industrial base.
    To meet inventory requirements and maintain a credible strategic 
deterrent in the face of evolving threats, we will need to design, 
engineer, produce, and deploy D5LE2 in time for strategic outload of 
Columbia Hull 9. D5LE2 will be incorporated on all follow on Columbia-
class Hulls and later on Columbia-class Hulls 1-8 during their Extended 
Refit Period from fiscal year 2039-49. D5LE2's architecture will ensure 
the weapon system maintains demonstrated performance and survivability 
while facing a dynamic threat environment driven by multiple nuclear 
challengers until Columbia-class end of life.
    D5LE2 is a hybrid of existing, cost-effective technology (e.g., 
solid rocket motors, ignitors) and redesigned and updated components 
(e.g., avionics, guidance, system architecture); it is structured to 
maintain today's unmatched reliability and demonstrated performance 
while unlocking untapped system potential to efficiently respond to 
emerging needs and to maintain a credible SBSD.
                   industrial base and infrastructure
    The Nation requires a modernized nuclear force and supporting 
infrastructure to execute our national strategy. Unlike SLBM programs 
of the past, D5LE2 does not have the benefit of a healthy defense 
industrial base that was historically built on simultaneously 
maintaining production and continuous development. Our modernization 
needs cannot succeed without investing in research and development, the 
critical skills in the workforce, and the facilities needed to produce, 
sustain, and certify our nuclear systems. Ensuring robust defense and 
aerospace industrial base capabilities--such as radiation-hardened 
electronics, strategic inertial instrumentation, and solid rocket 
motors--remains an important priority in conjunction with research and 
development investment.
    SSP has placed particular emphasis on the Solid Rocket Motor (SRM) 
industry and its sub-tier suppliers. We appreciate the support of 
Congress to allow for the continuous production of these vital 
components. Over the past 15 years, the SRM industrial base waned 
following the completion of the Space Shuttle missions, Minuteman III 
re-graining, and disruption of the space launch market by new Liquid 
Rocket Engine entrants. However, SRM demand is increasing due to 
competing programs (CPS, Sentinel, Next Generation Interceptor) and 
production rate increases for D5LE and D5LE2. In addition, the Trident 
II D5 SRM production line is aging and requires modernization in order 
to ensure production can continue well into the 2060's.
    In short, full support of D5LE2 today is vital to achieving Initial 
Fleet Introduction in 2039 and to embarking on a path that maintains an 
SLBM deterrent capability through the service life of the Columbia-
class SSBNs. If the Nation does not continue to address these concerns, 
no amount of money will be able to mitigate the risks realized if we do 
not adequately prepare our industrial base.
    In addition to SRMs, we also need a national capability to build 
aeroshells, which protect the payload upon re-entry to the atmosphere. 
The Navy has not delivered an integrated aeroshell since the 1980's and 
needs to reinvigorate a production capability that only resides in a 
small cadre of highly skilled experts in an exceptionally niche 
industry. Aeroshell investment supports the Navy but will also be cost-
effectively leveraged by our colleagues in the Air Force and our 
strategic partners in the United Kingdom as they pursue their 
independent warhead program endeavors.
    The program's infrastructure is also at an inflection point, as 
existing facilities are reaching their 30-year recapitalization windows 
as we enter into a once-in-a-generation transition of both the weapons 
system and platform. The Navy relies on a limited footprint in Kings 
Bay, Georgia, Bangor, Washington, and Florida's Space Coast to process 
missiles and outfit the SSBNs. Maintaining and sustaining facilities is 
critical to meeting USSTRATCOM and Fleet mission requirements, as well 
as providing new capabilities through military construction. We will 
make smart investments to address capability gaps, throughput 
constraints, and design for surge capacity to address requirements 
presented by new and emerging threats. Our Nation and the Navy will 
continue to prioritize and resource the sustainment and modernization 
of its nuclear infrastructure enterprise to provide an effective and 
flexible deterrent now and into the future.
    As the Navy executes the modernization and replacement of the SSBN 
and associated SLBM leg of the nuclear triad, DOD and the Department of 
Energy's (DOE) National Nuclear Security Administration's (NNSA) 
infrastructure must be prepared to respond in tandem to the evolving 
needs of the Nation. We must have an effective, resilient, and 
responsive plutonium pit production capability. This capability can 
address age-related risks, support planned refurbishments, as well as 
prepare for future uncertainty. Additionally, tritium, lithium, and 
uranium, and high explosives and energetics, among other strategic 
materials, are vital to ensuring the Navy can continue to meet its 
strategic deterrent requirements.
    Efforts to sustain and modernize deterrent industrial base and 
infrastructure must continue. Our strategic forces underpin every 
military operation around the world, and we cannot afford to delay 
given the increasing threats facing our Nation.
                  warhead and reentry body activities
    The Navy is also working in partnership with NNSA to refurbish our 
existing reentry systems and develop new reentry systems in response to 
USSTRATCOM requirements. As the threat environment faced by the nuclear 
enterprise continues to evolve, it is critical that the Navy designs, 
develops, and deploys programs that meet the needs of the Warfighter.
    Today, the Trident II D5 missile is capable of carrying two types 
of warhead families, the W76 and the W88. SSP is designing and 
developing a new warhead system: the W93 warhead and Mk7 reentry body 
system. It will be designed for use on both the D5LE and D5LE2 missiles 
and, through the PSA and MDA, and the Mk7 reentry body will support the 
UK's sovereign Replacement Warhead program.
    W93/Mk7 will provide flexibility and adaptability to meet future 
Warfighter needs. With the near simultaneous age out of the deployed 
stockpile beginning in the 2040's, the W93/Mk7 will help address 
production concerns in the Nuclear Enterprise and ensure an 
uninterrupted at sea deterrent for the sea-based leg of the nuclear 
triad. In 2021, the Navy entered Phase 1 of the joint DOD-DOE Nuclear 
Weapons Lifecycle Process with NNSA for the W93. The Phase 1 effort 
addressed evolving ballistic missile warhead modernization 
requirements; improving operational effectiveness for USSTRATCOM; and 
mitigating technical, operational, and programmatic risk in the sea-
based leg of the nuclear triad while simultaneously reinvigorating the 
atrophied industrial base. In fiscal year 2022, the W93 program 
received Nuclear Weapons Council (NWC) authorization to enter Phase 2, 
Feasibility Study and Design Options, which further refined and matured 
the design of the W93/Mk7 program in a manner that provides an 
affordable, credible, safe, and secure weapon to the Warfighter. This 
marked the first time a nuclear weapons program had reached Phase 2 
since the W88 which ended production in the 1990's. As of March 2025, 
the W93/Mk7 program proceeded into Phase 2A. The W93/Mk7 will not 
increase the size of the deployed stockpile and will not require 
underground nuclear explosive testing. The Navy will work in close 
coordination with the DOD, NNSA, NWC, and Congress as this effort 
matures.
   polaris sales agreement (psa) and mutual defense agreement (mda): 
                     support to the united kingdom
    Fundamental to U.S. strategic and extended deterrence policies is 
the special relationship between the U.S. and the UK through the 1958 
MDA and the 1963 PSA. Under the PSA, the U.S. sells the Trident II SWS 
to the UK along with associated support, testing and training 
equipment, and defense services. This sales agreement allows the U.S. 
to procure the SWS, other equipment, and services for the UK on U.S. 
contracts under the same terms and conditions as those for the United 
States, allowing for increased economies of scale and sharing certain 
costs and liabilities.
    In particular, certain SWS equipment, including missiles, are 
``mingled'' in common asset pools. Although the U.S. maintains these 
mingled assets in the United States, the UK retains right to title for 
mingled assets in the United States, and the United States transfers 
title to the UK for deployment. The United States and the UK 
proportionately share costs and liabilities to maintain (and eventually 
dispose) of mingled assets throughout their lifecycles.
    Under the MDA, the United States cooperates with the UK on the uses 
of atomic energy for mutual defense purposes. The PSA and MDA 
agreements are complementary, and together enable the U.S. Navy to sell 
SWS delivery system and reentry body equipment to the UK, as well as to 
exchange controlled unclassified and classified information, including 
atomic information, with the UK. This framework has ensured the U.S. 
ability to support the UK with strategic capabilities to ensure a 
robust, sovereign nuclear deterrent.
    SSP's key responsibility associated with the Columbia-class program 
is the integration of the SWS onto the new SSBNs. A critical aspect is 
the Common Missile Compartment (CMC) that will support Trident II SWS 
deployment on Columbia-class SSBNs and the UK Dreadnought-class SSBNs. 
The CMC represents the most recent example of the PSA partnership, in 
which our nations established a cost-sharing arrangement to design, 
develop, and produce common shipboard infrastructure that improves 
comingling of Trident II D5 missile inventory and sets the stage to 
improve maintenance system consistency across the two fleets.
    SSP also supports the SSBN Program Executive Office as it oversees 
U.S. industry's delivery of CMC components to both Navies for 
installation into their new SSBNs. Full lead ship construction is in 
progress along with delivery of SWS equipment to the UK in support of 
construction and outfitting efforts under the authorities of the 1963 
PSA.
    As with the Columbia-class SSBNs, the UK Dreadnought-class SSBNs 
will initially carry the Trident II D5LE missile. The development of 
the Mk7 reentry system to support the U.S. W93 warhead program is also 
critical to the UK's independent development of a next generation 
nuclear warhead and reentry system. Our nations are working separate 
and sovereign nuclear warhead programs that will leverage the Mk7 
reentry system. SSP will continue to nurture and safeguard this special 
relationship with the UK as it contributes to ensuring peace through 
strength with the UK's Continuous At Sea Deterrent (CASD) today while 
modernizing and building flexibility, adaptability, and resiliency into 
the UK's future CASD.
                  sea-launched cruise missile, nuclear
    Today, our deterrent force is challenged by adversaries' theater 
nuclear capabilities for which we have limited response options and 
against which we must invest now in capabilities to maintain deterrence 
for the future. In the fiscal year 2024 NDAA (Public Law 118-31), 
Congress directed establishment of a major defense acquisition program 
for SLCM-N. SLCM-N is a flexible, credible, and survivable sea-based 
regional deterrent capability designed to complement existing 
capabilities and to expand Presidential options.
    In accordance with the fiscal year 2024 NDAA, Navy established a 
SLCM-N Program Office at SSP in March 2024. Over the past year, SSP has 
focused on standing up this program office and conducting the 
assessments needed to deliver a weapon system that meets Warfighter 
needs. The SLCM-N program is focused on achieving a milestone decision 
in fiscal year 2026 and continuing program assessments to buy down 
technical and programmatic risk. Executing this program requires 
careful balancing of resources to ensure existing critical Navy 
programs of record are not adversely impacted.
    Fiscal year 2024 Research, Development, Test & Evaluation funding 
enabled the program to begin building the technical understanding and 
programmatic underpinnings in support of a SLCM-N capability delivery 
by fiscal year 2034. Over the last year, the SLCM-N program has focused 
on understanding and determining the Weapon System's architectures. 
SLCM-N development will span the missile system, fire control, launcher 
system, platform integration, and warhead system integration as well as 
development of applicable support equipment, telemetry and flight test 
hardware, ashore infrastructure, and training material. The program 
office has focused efforts on defining the system architecture that 
integrates these elements, conducting systems engineering analysis to 
inform key Materiel Solution Analysis (MSA) decisions, and establishing 
the acquisition framework that will enable successful program 
execution.
    The program has conducted assessments of early candidate airframe 
options to understand the key technical challenges unique to developing 
SLCM-N. Challenges identified include integration of a nuclear warhead 
into a conventionally armed cruise missile design while meeting nuclear 
surety requirements and marinizing a missile not originally designed 
for underwater launch. In addition to these initial technical 
assessments, the program researched potential alternate airframe and 
component vendor options to understand the missile options that may 
best meet requirements and provide the best path to Initial Operating 
Capability (IOC) by fiscal year 2034. Beyond SLCM-N airframe 
considerations, the Navy, in cooperation with NNSA, has worked to 
assess available warhead options for selection of a warhead that meets 
requirements.
    The program has been equally focused on the integration of SLCM-N 
into the Virginia-class submarine. As the SLCM-N shipboard architecture 
matures, preliminary platform interfaces are being established, 
shipboard environments defined, and fire control solutions that meet 
nuclear surety requirements assessed. Over the last year, the SLCM-N 
program has conducted numerous programmatic and engineering assessments 
to help define and narrow the shipboard integration trade space and 
enable MSA engineering decisions. The SLCM-N weapon system is being 
designed and integrated with the intent to minimize impact to Virginia-
class readiness and operations.
    In parallel with efforts to develop the missile system and 
integrate it into the submarine, the program is working to develop the 
supporting infrastructure needed to store, maintain, and deploy SLCM-N. 
The weapon will be stored and loaded at the Strategic Weapon Facilities 
(SWF) already used for the Trident II D5 SWS and will leverage a 
combination of existing, modified, and new facilities at the SWFs. 
Early studies are focused on developing a plan for the SWFs that 
supports SLCM-N requirements while ensuring SWS programs of record are 
not impacted.
    The Navy is moving rapidly to complete the activities needed for a 
successful milestone decision in fiscal year 2026. Consistent funding 
resources are critical to the program's ability to deliver a system 
with an IOC by fiscal year 2034. The ability to find and rapidly scale 
the workforce that will develop SLCM-N is critical to mission success.
                               workforce
    SSP's mission--strategic deterrence--is critical to this Nation. It 
is the foundation of the Interim National Defense Strategic Guidance 
and is the top priority of the Secretary of Defense. Based on the 
success of the Trident program, SSP has also been tasked with rapidly 
developing and producing the Navy's first hypersonic weapon system, 
CPS, along with the Army's long range hypersonic weapons system. At the 
same time, SSP is currently developing the SLCM-N. This is a new 
capability that required the organization to establish a new program 
office, along with corresponding staff. Finally, I have Echelon I 
command responsibilities for the personnel that execute regulatory 
oversight of the Navy Nuclear Deterrence Mission and technical 
authority on Department of the Navy Nuclear Weapons and Nuclear Weapons 
systems, effort that provides a holistic Navy view of the no-fail 
mission.
    Because of our demonstrated success, and the importance of these 
new programs, SSP's workforce has been growing and requires continued 
growth. SSP must recruit, train, and retain some of the most sought-
after skills in the U.S. job market to support the breadth and 
complexity of SSP's strategic deterrence mission. SSP requires a 
workforce comprised of highly specialized, technical experts. Failing 
to appropriately staff this command would be catastrophic to the Navy's 
Fleet Ballistic Missile program, the Conventional Prompt Strike program 
and the Sea-Launched Cruise Missile--Nuclear program.
    History reminds us that the swift, successful creation and 
execution of the Fleet Ballistic Missile program in the 1950's was 
truly a result of national commitment, congressional support, and a 
cadre of hand-selected scientists, engineers, and inspirational 
leaders. Though process will always underpin our efforts, our dedicated 
predecessors--civilians, military, and industry partners alike--
responded to the national need with focused determination and propelled 
the program forward with a vision. People are as fundamental to our 
nuclear deterrent as the SWS itself. Today, SSP and its industry 
partners are focused on inspiring, growing, and retaining a generation 
of workforce that did not live through the darkest days of the cold 
war. Connecting a new workforce to this fundamental global security 
mission remains an important task shared among the entire nuclear 
enterprise.
    Our mission has grown significantly, while our workforce size has 
not grown in the same proportion. Additionally, as the global threat 
environment has changed and the operational tempo has increased, the 
workforce is challenged to manage the increased strain on an already 
aging deployed weapons system. In order to accomplish SSP's sustainment 
and development missions, SSP must have trained, skilled employees on-
board and able to work independently.
    The next decade is a time of great importance to successfully 
accomplish concurrent development efforts, on top of the sustainment of 
the aging D5/D5LE weapon system. SSP has spent the past several years 
posturing its workforce, organizational structure, infrastructure, 
culture, and technical capabilities to ensure optimal success for the 
impending bow wave of critical development, testing, deployment, and 
sustainment.
                               conclusion
    Since the 1950's, our Nation's sea-based strategic deterrent has 
been a critical component of our national security and must continue to 
assure our allies and partners and deter potential adversaries well 
into the future. SSP ensures a safe, secure, effective, flexible, and 
strategic deterrent, with a steadfast focus on the proper stewardship, 
custody, and accountability of the nuclear assets entrusted to the 
Navy. Sustaining and modernizing the sea-based strategic deterrent 
capability is a vital national security requirement.
    As the fourteenth Director at SSP, I have absolute faith and 
confidence in the safety, security, effectiveness, and credibility of 
our Navy's strategic deterrent due to the proficiency and 
professionalism of the dedicated service members and civilians 
committed to our mission. With continued congressional support and 
stable, on-time funding, the Navy will continue to effectively defend 
our Nation and preserve peace for future generations.

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Admiral. We will begin our 
first round of questions. Five-minute questions please. Admiral 
Wolfe, I've appreciated our discussions on standing up the 
SLCM-N. Can you update the Committee on the progress that the 
Navy's made on that?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for the question. Yes, 
as I've said, we stood up our program office, we started to 
look at what----
    Senator Fischer. Do you found that to be helpful?
    Admiral Wolfe. What to be helpful, ma'am?
    Senator Fischer. That you've got the office stood up.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. Absolutely. What that is a lot--
--
    Senator Fischer. Was that faster than you anticipated?
    Admiral Wolfe. Excuse me, ma'am?
    Senator Fischer. Was it quicker than you anticipated?
    Admiral Wolfe. I wouldn't say it was quicker than 
anticipated. We're still trying to ramp up to get the right 
number of folks, but what that small group of people, since 
we've stood that up, has been able to do in the last year, 
we've been able to focus on what are the things that we need to 
do to get to meeting the requirement of 2034, but as 
importantly, it's allowed us to work with NNSA in partnership 
to select a family of warheads.
    It's allowed us to pulse industry and start to get ideas 
and new ways of thinking into this system, so that we can 
continue to meet all of the requirements. We've really started 
to hone in on what are those concepts and how are we going to 
integrate this system onto a platform that was never built to 
carry nuclear weapons.
    We've had many discussions with this Committee in the past 
about how we're going to do that, and in the last years we've 
worked with the fleet, we've also been able to get their ideas 
to understand exactly how we can go about this without 
impacting the larger SSN mission.
    Senator Fischer. You have a 2034 timeline, what's the 
greatest risk to that, do you think?
    Admiral Wolfe. I think the greatest risk to the 2034 
timeline again, is it goes back to that it's really 
understanding how are we going to get this system integrated 
into a platform that was never purpose built for that. It's 
also to be able to do that in a way so that we don't deter from 
the primary SSN mission. This will be a whole new 
infrastructure that we have to stand up. Getting all of those 
things in place, getting the weapons system done, but as 
importantly, getting the fleet trained, getting all the things 
that we need to do, that's going to be one of the challenging 
parts of this.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Mr. Hoagland, can you provide 
an update on NNSA's progress on the future warhead for SLCM-N?
    Mr. Hoagland. Yes, Senator. Thank you. Paralleling Admiral 
Wolfe's comments, we stood up a program office last summer. 
Among the first responsibilities of that office. They ran a 
very disciplined warhead selection process using over 30 
metrics to grade and rank the suitable warheads for options. We 
have selected and identified the W 80 family of warheads as 
most suitable for this purpose, that this allows us to stay 
ahead of the interface documents that we'll be pursuing the 
engineering required and emphasis on staying very coupled to 
the Navy during development with the platform into which that 
warhead will go.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. I appreciate the thoughtful 
work that both NNSA and the Navy along with U.S. Strategic 
Command (STRATCOM) and the combatant commanders are doing to 
assess the best way forward for this program. I appreciate the 
close communication with this Subcommittee as design choices 
are considered. So, thank you for that.
    General Bussiere, the Air Force is responsible for many of 
the components that comprise our NC3 system, including 
delivering the new Survivable Airborne Operations Center (SAOC) 
aircraft. Can you provide us with an update on that program?
    General Bussiere. So, Madam Chair, of the Survivable 
Airborne Operations Center, the 747-8is that will replace the--
--
    Senator Fischer. Oh, mic?
    General Bussiere. Yes, it is.
    Senator Fischer. Can you get a little closer?
    General Bussiere. Yes.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    General Bussiere. So, the SAOC weapon system that's going 
to replace the existing E-4B National Airborne Operations 
Center is fairly nascent in its execution from the contract 
award last year but going very well. So the primary contractor 
has built facilities in Ohio and they purchased the original or 
the initial buy of 7478is, and they're going through initial 
processes of it.
    We're also outlining the military construction to outfit 
off Air Force base and I think most members of the Committee 
are aware that we stood up the 95th Wing to take host of that 
capability as well as others in that portfolio.
    Senator Fischer. What can you share about the 95th wing 
that was stood up? What are the operations of the unit? How are 
they progressing it off it?
    General Bussiere. So, they're literally, we just stood it 
up a few months ago. Colonel Leaumont is the first commander as 
most Committee Members are aware. He was the five 95th command 
and control group commander, which is the group that previously 
had the NAOC mission. He's standing up his command team 
outfitting his organization and we're giving him the resources 
to pull together.
    I think most committee members are aware, when I first 
wanted to stand up this wing, it was bringing together both 
Active Duty, Guard, Reserve elements in the, in the in the 
realm of communications and control in our special space into 
the leadership oversight of one commander. We're very pleased 
with its progress so far.
    Senator Fischer. Good to hear. Thank you. Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you. Admiral Wolfe, you used a term 
I've never heard before, stable on time funding. What does that 
mean?
    [Laughter.]
    Senator King. Let's hope that we can make that happen. 
That's certainly the goal, and I understand how debilitating it 
is to not have stable on time funding.
    Dr. Vann, I just understand that you're leaving Federal 
service shortly after 15 distinguished years, and I just wanted 
to congratulate you and thank you for your extraordinary 
service to the country. Let me start with a question for you 
Dr. Vann. The prior organization that preceded where you are 
now included chemical and biological defense and threat 
reduction. I don't think that's in the new job description. 
Where has that gone? Is that still being attended to somewhere?
    Dr. Vann No, so it actually is still a part of the 
implementation plan of the nuclear deterrent and chem/bio 
defense policy and programs. So, it will be all pulled together 
into an organization.
    Senator King. It's going to stay in the current, the new 
organization?
    Dr. Vann That is the hope and the current plan based off of 
the legislation.
    Senator King. Mr. Hoagland, if you were listening to the 
first panel, you won't be surprised by this question. You 
mentioned the phrase, ``the foundation is our workforce.'' How 
is your workforce? Do you have sufficient workforce? Did you 
have to go through rifts and fork-in-the-road and people 
leaving? Where are you compared with where the organization was 
in terms of staffing on January 1st of this year?
    Mr. Hoagland. Thank you, Senator King. We did recover. We 
have brought back all the terminated employees that were lost 
in February. The people I speak to and work with in NNSA, in 
particular in the weapons activities portfolio, are here for 
the mission. They're motivated by the mission. They recognize 
the multi-generational inflection point we're experiencing in 
the nuclear deterrent, and they're laser focused, and they're 
delivering with some losses from the deferred resignation 
program.
    We undertook a process to identify critical needs, either 
from those absences or because of emergent requirements in the 
program, and we've shifted staff around to attend to the most 
important needs, and we continue to deliver.
    Senator King. Well, one of my questions is, is the hiring 
freeze still in effect?
    Mr. Hoagland. By and large, the hiring freeze is still in 
effect.
    Senator King. Well, that's what worries me is with people 
are taking deferred whatever you call it, fork in the road 
retirement, and the hiring freeze is in effect, you end up 
with, could end up with some pretty important vacancies.
    Mr. Hoagland. That's very true. With the Secretary's 
support, we have exempted the hiring freeze for the Office of 
Secure Transportation. We're very pleased to note that we've 
been able to offer job opportunities and we are starting a new 
class for Office of Secure Transportation this month to 
continue the pipeline into that particular mission space.
    Senator King. Thank you. General Bussiere, good to see you 
again.
    General Bussiere. Same here, Senator.
    Senator King. Thank you for the service that you're 
providing. We had some discussion in the Armed Services 
Committee this morning about Air Force availability. Do you 
have a figure for availability of your strike force? In other 
words--well, you know what I mean. What's the percentage of 
your force that's available at any given moment?
    General Bussiere. From a bomber perspective, Senator?
    Senator King. Correct.
    General Bussiere. So, between the B1, B2, and B52 force, we 
hover around the fifties for aircraft availability just because 
of spare parts and the legacy weapon system sustainment.
    Senator King. In terms of spare parts, one of the things 
the committee is looking at is when we are acquiring new 
platforms that we also acquire the intellectual property so 
that we can make our own spare parts. I believe there should be 
a 3D printer in every depot and on every naval ship. Right now, 
is spare parts a bottleneck for you? Because to be honest, 50 
percent availability the commercial aircraft is 98 percent 
availability. They'd be long out of business if they had a 50 
percent availability.
    General Bussiere. It's not necessarily unique to the bomber 
fleet, it's just it's----
    Senator King. No, I understand that. That was the number we 
had this morning for the Air Force generally.
    General Bussiere. The bomber fleet is challenged by what we 
call is legacy vendors that don't actually make the parts we 
need. So that's a challenge for the acquisition community to 
get those contracts put on order. As you know, the B52 is----
    Senator King. Pretty old.
    General Bussiere.--70 years plus old. The B2 is in its 
thirties, the B1 is in its forties and fifties, depending on 
the year the aircraft was made, and we're using them a lot. So 
the demand signal for our bombers is at the highest level that 
I've seen it in my career. While we're also challenged to get 
the sustainment parts on the shelf for the legacy.
    Senator King. I hope that could be a priority in terms of 
sustainment and maintenance and maintaining a higher level of 
availability that's a better deal for the taxpayers and it 
makes sure service all the more lethal if it's available
    General Bussiere. Without a doubt, and that's obviously the 
reason why we're going to be fielding the B21 Raider platform 
to replace the B1 and the B2 is because of the age and the 
legacy fleet and modernizing the B52 H to the B52 J model.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Madam Chair. Once again, thank 
you all for your service to our country. General Bussiere, the 
B21 program is critical to the future bomber leg of the triad. 
Based on what you know of the current and projected demand 
commensurate to a great power competition paradigm with two 
near peer nuclear adversaries, how many B21s do you believe 
would be optimally needed to support U.S. war plans and 
deterrence?
    What do you think the key drivers are going to be with 
regard to managing the procurement and sustainment right now, 
based on what you're seeing and recognizing that, I think 
there's a lot of us would like to see these B21s come on at a 
higher rate than what they're currently planned for, but this 
is probably one of the best examples of a system which is 
working. It's on time, it's on budget.
    Can you share with us a little bit about what you think the 
needs are for this particular platform?
    General Bussiere. Yes, Senator Rounds, very pleased with 
the progress so far. The B21 Raider platform. As the committee 
is aware, we've had first flight, we have one aircraft, T-One 
is in testing, developmental testing out at Edwards Air Force 
Base, and we have a classified number on the production line. 
Ellsworth Air Force Base is the first installation, we'll field 
the B21, and our construction projects to bed down that weapon 
system are going very well also, as well as the repair of the 
runway to field that capability.
    As the Committee is aware, the program of record currently 
is at least 100. The Air Force back in 2018 and 1919, I believe 
testified before Congress that the right number at that time 
potentially could be as high as 145. I understand General 
Cotton testified to that effect this year. I support assessing 
the increase of the production from 100 to 145. But I think the 
real question for the department and for the Nation is what's 
the right mix of long-range strike platforms versus other 
strike platforms?
    It's a reasonable question the Nation has asked several 
times in the last year or two, and that there are ongoing 
efforts, I believe, both on the Hill and in the Department of 
Defense to assess what the correct number of long-range strike 
platforms are in the Department of the Air Force.
    Senator Rounds. I think part of that also goes back to what 
exactly will the threat be. Part of what we're asking to be 
developed based on the NDAA last year was a study anyway as to 
how we handle two different theaters at the same time. Because 
there's a general consensus out there that if we're going to 
have a significant problem with one of our near peer 
adversaries in one theater, very high probability that we'd 
have a similar threat develop in a second theater. Thus, 
putting the demand out there to be able to respond in both 
locations with appropriate platforms.
    I'm going to come over to Dr. Vann for just a second. Can 
you share a little bit about the direction that you see the 
approach taking? I know that you know, either we talk about a 
new defense strategy we look at revising somehow our current 
one. Can you share with us a little bit about the, the 
direction that you see in terms of our strategic response and 
what we can expect from the Administration?
    Dr. Vann Sure. Yes, sir. Secretary Hegseth, of course, 
approved an interim National Defense Strategic Guidance 
classified document, which really goes into some details about 
how the DOD is going to implement President Trump's peace 
through strength kind of agenda. In there, there was some 
discussion about the prioritizing, planning, resourcing 
decisions that will be kind of entered into with a full 
National Defense Strategy (NPS).
    As you know, the NDS requires a review of our force size, 
shape, posture considerations, and all of the detailed 
prioritization of the threats, missions, and major investments. 
We do anticipate an in-depth look in the NDS on our nuclear 
strategy and our posture, especially in this kind of new 
geopolitical environment. I would anticipate broadly nuclear 
strategy and posture will be leveraging the work of things like 
the Strategic Posture Commission's analysis, as well as some of 
the updated information that we have about the geopolitical 
threat environment.
    Senator Rounds. Do you have a timeline?
    Dr. Vann Sir, it is just begun and it is just underway. Our 
policy colleagues are working on pulling that together as we 
speak.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator. Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Madam Chair. Admiral Wolfe, I 
want to come back to the SLCM-N discussion. So you talked about 
you stood up the program office, you are in the process of 
looking through a family of warheads to figure out what the 
warhead would be a pulsed industry. You've been working with 
the fleet and you talked about how to integrate this needed 
platform on a platform that wasn't designed for a nuclear 
weapon.
    You mentioned that we can't deter, and I think I wrote this 
down as a quote, ``We can't deter from the primary SSN 
mission.'' The primary Virginia-class submarine attack, 
conventional attack mission. And that's my big concern here.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir.
    Senator Kelly. So, explain to me how do we do that and how 
do we integrate a nuclear weapon into a Virginia-class sub 
without impacting training, mission systems, security? I assume 
we're going to have to have marines on board. Usually with 
nuclear weapons, we provide a contingent, unless that is a 
decision that does not apply in this case, we've got to store 
these weapons.
    So, my assumption, and I might be wrong, we would carry 
fewer torpedoes. This could possibly change the ops tempo of 
the submarine, because now we have different systems that we 
have to maintain that are additional systems. We're going to be 
limited in the ports we can go in, so maybe even maintenance 
overseas and resupply could be impacted. I assume there's going 
to be additional operator positions for the nuclear enterprise 
on board. So what positions are we going to take away?
    So, if you can go into a little bit about that and then 
come back to how this doesn't deter from the primary 
conventional mission.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. So, acknowledge all your concerns 
we've talked about those in the past. So those are all the 
things as we work with the fleet, we are looking at what are 
the ways that we can architect the system to be able to do just 
what you said. Certainly there's going to be--I would tell you 
there's not going to be zero impact, but as we've worked with 
the fleet, what we believe is, we can come up with the right 
concepts of how do I train a crew that can deploy with this 
weapon to do the things that it needs to do that doesn't 
require the rest of the crew doing the missions they would 
normally do.
    Senator Kelly. Where do these people sleep?
    Admiral Wolfe. So, we're going to work through that, sir. 
It's not going to take a large number of folks once you get 
that weapon on board. Just to address your, your concern about 
marines in a submarine environment, we don't need marines. We 
don't need that type. We know how to do that in different ways. 
It's what we do on our Ship, Submersible, Ballistic, Nuclear 
(SSBN)s today. So we're going to take the best of all of those, 
and we're going to figure out how we do that and integrate that 
with a very small number of additional folks. I can tell you, 
having done this a long time, it will be a small number of 
folks that actually have to operate that particular system, 
which will be different than all of the other systems that are 
on board, so.
    Senator Kelly. Madam Chair, let me be clear here. Here's my 
concern. I understand we're going to try to do the best job we 
can at this, but we have an incredibly capable platform in the 
Virginia-class submarine.
    Admiral Wolfe. We still will.
    Senator Kelly. Well, we do now, and it's a conventional 
platform----
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir.
    Senator Kelly.--that the Chinese and the Russians pretty 
much, but definitely the Chinese cannot compete with. I'm 
concerned we come out of this and the likelihood that we have 
to use the conventional part of this, of a Virginia class 
submarine and a conflict with China is rather high, if we got 
into a conflict. The probability that we would use the nuclear 
systems aboard this submarine are actually rather low. So, 
we're going to sacrifice the exquisite capability of this 
platform, and it's going to become a little less capable. I 
don't know how less capable. My concern is it could be 
significant.
    My other concern is, we've set $2 billion aside for the 
development of this. Congressional Budget Office (CBO) 
estimates, the cost of SLCM-N and its war add at $10 billion 
between 2023 and 2032 if the program began in 2024. That amount 
does not cover pro production costs beyond 2032, nor does it 
include any of the costs for integrating the weapon system into 
the submarines, which I think is going to be substantial. I 
mean, we're talking about billions of dollars.
    Then we have the additional costs beyond that of, you know, 
security and operations and weapon storage costs. So, I don't 
think this thing has been fully thought out, but again, my 
biggest concern about this, and I am not against having another 
tactical nuclear option, I just think that the costs not only 
the financial costs, but the cost to the conventional submarine 
fleet, in my view, is too high.
    I come from the aviation background, so it's kind of hard 
for me to say that I think our conventional submarine force is 
unmatched anywhere in the world. And it is something where we 
have this substantial overmatch with the Chinese and I feel 
we're putting it at risk. Thank you.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Kelly. General 
Bussiere, I urge you to work closely with Secretary Meink and 
also to be able to reach that next milestone that we have with 
Sentinel. The longer we delay the decisions, the more budget 
uncertainty that program's going to face. It's been determined 
that that is a program that is priority and that this country 
needs. Can you please describe the risks that we may incur if 
Sentinel is not adequately funded in fiscal year 2026 budget?
    General Bussiere. So, Madam Chair, I look forward to the 
opportunity for our new Secretary of the Air Force Secretary 
Meink to come visit Barksdale and get a complete update on all 
our--at least two thirds of the Nation's nuclear triad from Air 
Force Global Strike Command. As it relates to the Sentinel 
Weapon System, I've said in several public forms that this July 
will be the 55th anniversary of fielding the Minuteman III 
capability, the 91st Missile Wing in Minot, North Dakota. 55 
years ago.
    So, the time for recapitalizing, the land leg of the triad, 
quite frankly, was probably a decade or two decades ago. But 
here we are today in 2025 and we're restructuring the Sentinel 
Weapon System to be able to field that capability at a very 
stressed time in our Nation's history. I agree with the 
committee's position that the Sentinel Weapon system needs to 
be funded sufficiently to get that program back on track and 
field it as expeditiously as we can as a department. I'm 
confident that our secretary will have the same position.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General. Admiral Wolfe, can you 
provide an update on the Trident II D5 Life Extension 2 (D5LE2) 
and the impact of the recent contract modification that took 
place?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. So D5LE2, as you know, is the 
replacement for the current system that we have. We've just 
come through a recent review to know that we're starting to 
understand the exact requirements, which dovetail from what we 
actually have today. So we've come through that. That program 
is on schedule it's on track and certainly the contract 
modifications were to continue down that path so that we can 
eventually get into our preliminary design review, our critical 
design review with the goal of, right now the plan is to start 
flight testing of that system in 2033.
    We're challenging the team to pull that to the left to get 
early learning. It's things we've gotten, what we've learned in 
other programs, like hyper sonics, get that testing done as 
quickly as you can. So the modifications you're referring to 
are to start us down that path and get industry ramped up to 
continue that development effort.
    Senator Fischer. What do you see as the biggest threat to 
being able to execute those timelines?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. It's kind of what I said in my 
opening testimony. I think our biggest, I wouldn't say threat, 
but the thing we're going to watch closely is how we ramp 
industry back up in all of these modernization programs. Not 
this one, but, you know, things like Rad-hard electronics, 
solid rocket motors, all of those things which are very small, 
industrial based. Again, with and as we're all trying to do 
this at the same time, making sure we've got the industrial 
capacity and capability to meet all of our program needs to 
keep them on track.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you. Senator King, other 
questions?
    Senator King. Just a couple. Admiral Wolfe, you're working 
with the British on the W 93. How is that collaboration going?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. So I would tell you both programs, 
they're being done in parallel. Obviously, the UK design is a 
sovereign design, but as we work in parallel both us and NNSA 
under the Mutual Defense Agreement, I think we have gotten to 
the point where both teams are moving forward in parallel, the 
right amount of data is being shared where it needs to be 
shared. I would say the way that we're all three of our 
organizations are working together is, is really good right 
now.
    Senator King. Final question, General Bussiere, how are you 
doing on retaining pilots? That's been a problem with the 
fighter pilots. Is it a similar problem with bomber pilots or 
is that a different breed of cat?
    General Bussiere. No, our rated management stressors are 
pretty agnostic of the platform. So, we're experiencing similar 
challenges in retaining. You know, historically when the 
airlines are hiring, we have a retention problem, and when 
they're not hiring, we don't. There's different dynamics that 
affect a aviator's decision to stay in the Air Force. But we 
have similar challenges in Air Force Global Strike Command.
    Senator King. A couple of years ago Senator Cotton and I 
had what amounted to a focus group with Young Air Force pilots 
without the brass around. To sort of get from them some 
information about their view of the retention issues and the 
pilot shortage issues. It was very interesting. We expected 
going into that meeting, it was going to be all about bonuses 
and quality of life and housing and all those kinds of things.
    What they shared with us almost universally was they want 
to fly. What was pushing them toward the door were desk 
assignments. These were people that joined the military and 
they don't necessarily want to be a General, they want to fly 
airplanes. I thought that was a very interesting insight that 
came across to Tom Cotton and I very strongly, and I just 
commend that to you for your thinking in terms of retention.
    General Bussiere. Senator King, that's a universal aspect 
of retention for aviators in the Department of the Air Force. 
Across the board the department is aggressively trying to come 
up with not only new ways for generating aviators through our 
pilot pipeline, but also coming up with programs to convince 
our aviators of staying in service to their nation in the Air 
Force.
    Senator King. Well, one way may be to have parallel tracks. 
You're on the pilot track or you're on the officer track, and 
it may be that some people choose to stay with flying as 
opposed to moving up in the ranks. But I just wanted to share 
that with you because the impression came through so 
dramatically to us that this was one of the principle issues. 
So, I just, again, wanted to share that insight.
    General Bussiere. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Thank you to our 
panel members today. Appreciate you being here and providing us 
with important information. With that, the hearing is 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 6:07 p.m., the Subcommittee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
               nuclear armed sea-launched cruise missile
    1. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, is there a need for Nuclear 
Armed Sea-Launched Cruise Missile (SLCM-N) or a variant to field prior 
to 2034?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. Our deterrent forces are challenged by U.S. 
adversaries' theater nuclear capabilities, for which we have limited 
response options. SLCM-N is a theater nuclear system intended to expand 
the President's options for responding to limited nuclear use and 
strategic, non-nuclear attacks. The Navy is executing the SLCM-N 
program to meet the requirement established by the National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA) of fiscal year 2024, as amended, to achieve a 
SLCM-N initial operational capability (IOC) by September 30, 2034.

    2. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, what is driving that need 
for an earlier SLCM-N variant to field prior to 2034?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The Navy's SLCM-N program is executing to meet 
the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA's requirement, as amended, to achieve IOC by 
September 30, 2034. The program is working to effectively deliver the 
required capability as soon as feasibly achievable.

    3. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, you stated that SLCM-N 
fielding by 2034 was on a ``very, very aggressive timeline''. Is the 
SLCM-N program still on track to reach initial operating capability 
(IOC) by 2034?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The SLCM-N program is executing to a schedule 
based on the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA requirement, as amended, to reach 
IOC by September 30, 2034 and the program is on track to meet that 
schedule. The program's next major programmatic event is Milestone A in 
fiscal year 2026, with Milestone B anticipated to occur in fiscal year 
2029 and Milestone C anticipated in fiscal year 2032.

    4. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, has the Navy given you a 
requirement to demonstrate a SLCM-N capability earlier than IOC?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The Navy is executing the SLCM-N program to the 
congressionally mandated requirement to achieve IOC by September 30, 
2034. The Navy has not levied a requirement to demonstrate a SLCM-N 
capability earlier than the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA requirement.

    5. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, will the Navy fiscal year 
2026 budget request include early submarine platform funding to make a 
submarine available sooner than required for IOC?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The Navy's fiscal year 2026 budget supports the 
SLCM-N program's approach to submarine platform integration, including 
funding that will be used to 1) develop and produce a prototype nuclear 
fire control subsystem, 2) conduct submarine platform systems 
modifications, and 3) begin development of SLCM-N engagement and 
mission planning systems.

    6. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, will the Navy fiscal year 
2026 budget request for SLCM-N include the budget to develop an 
additional missile sooner than the missile required for IOC?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The Navy's fiscal year 2026 budget supports the 
program's approach to competitively design and prototype multiple 
missile airframe options. The budget will be used to procure hardware 
for early developmental testing, including early prototyping, ground 
testing, and long-lead components for early flight testing.

    7. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, has the Navy proposed any 
legislative recommendations to Congress to allow for an earlier SLCM-N 
deployment option?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The Navy has not proposed any legislative 
recommendations to Congress to alter the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA 
requirement to achieve SLCM-N IOC by 2034.

    8. Senator Cotton. Vice Admiral Wolfe, for any alternative, earlier 
systems being pursued, does this take resources from, or add any risks 
to the original SLCM-N system?
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. The DOD is committed to funding the SLCM-N 
program to deploy a capability that meets program requirements to 
achieve IOC by September 30, 2034. Any options to accelerate delivery 
of a SLCM-N capability earlier than fiscal year 2034 will require 
additional consideration.

    9. Senator Cotton. Mr. Hoagland, the National Nuclear Security 
Administration (NNSA) established a Federal Program Office for SLCM-N 
in July 2024. What progress has been made on the SLCM-N program since 
July?
    Mr. Hoagland. Since establishing a Federal program office for SLCM-
N in July 2024, NNSA has made significant progress on this program. 
This includes developing selection criteria for the SLCM-N warhead, 
down-selecting the warhead type in concert with the Navy, and 
establishing a milestone-based schedule for development, testing, and 
production of the weapon. NNSA continues to coordinate with DOD/Navy 
partners as missile options are evaluated.
                                sentinel
    10. Senator Cotton. Dr. Vann, what is the expected operational 
capability date for Sentinel?
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Drew Walter, Performing the Duties of the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Nuclear Deterrence, Chemical, and Biological 
Defense Policy and Programs, responded to questions on behalf of Dr. 
Vann. Pursuant to Executive Order (EO) 14265, Modernizing Defense 
Acquisitions and Spurring Innovation in the Defense Industrial Base 
(April 9, 2025), the Department of Defense is conducting a review of 
Major Defense Acquisition Programs (MDAP), and the Sentinel Program is 
being reviewed as part of that effort. In parallel, the Sentinel 
program continues its restructuring efforts, as required after the 
Nunn-McCurdy certification, and has not yet reached a new Milestone B 
approval. The expected initial operational capability will not be known 
until the restructuring is complete and the program is approved for a 
new Milestone B.

    11. Senator Cotton. Dr. Vann, how do you assess the risk of 
strategic deterrent requirements caused by current delays to the 
Sentinel program?
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
U.S. nuclear forces remain sized and postured to support deterrence 
objectives identified for the nuclear triad. Current projected delays 
of Sentinel re-emphasize the importance of the Minuteman III (MMIII) 
Intercontinental Ballistic Missile system. My team and I will continue 
to work with General Bussiere and the Air Force to ensure MMIII remains 
a safe, secure, viable, and effective facet of the nuclear triad as 
long as it remains in the field.
    The programmatic risk of a delayed fielding of Sentinel remains 
under evaluation, and I remain confident in the U.S. nuclear 
deterrent's ability to meet all objectives.
                       enriched uranium resupply
    12. Senator Cotton. Admiral Houston, what is the most specific date 
you can provide for when the NNSA will need a new supply of enriched 
uranium to meet national security needs?
    Admiral Houston. The amount of HEU currently allocated from the 
existing Department of Energy (DOE) stockpile for Naval Reactors' use 
is projected to last until the 2050's under the previous 
administration's shipbuilding plan. Pending no major changes to either 
future shipbuilding plans or to current HEU allocations, NNSA's current 
schedule to have new HEU enrichment capabilities operating before 2050 
will support uninterrupted Navy nuclear shipbuilding, inclusive of the 
United States' commitment to deliver nuclear-powered submarines under 
AUKUS. Any acceleration in shipbuilding plans or reallocation of 
stockpiled HEU away from Naval Reactors will drive an earlier 
enrichment need.

    13. Senator Cotton. Admiral Houston, do you believe that the NNSA's 
domestic uranium enrichment program can meet that date?
    Admiral Houston. NNSA's program has so far met initial milestones 
for testing and deployment of new enrichment capability, and my team is 
following and supporting these efforts. To augment these efforts and 
maximize margin to the Navy's need, my team is also engaged in DOE's 
efforts to implement the President's Executive Order on Reinvigorating 
the Nuclear Industrial Base, which includes actions to ensure a 
domestic nuclear fuel cycle sufficient to meet civilian and defense 
needs, if necessary.

    14. Senator Cotton. Mr. McConnell, given the growing nuclear 
threats, do you think 80 plutonium pits per year will be enough to meet 
deterrence requirements?
    Mr. McConnell. NNSA has committed to producing no fewer than 80 
plutonium pits per year as soon economically and technically possible, 
with the goal of re-establishing the capability for steady-State rate 
production of plutonium pits on the timelines required to meet DOD 
requirements.
                           rapid acquisition
    15. Senator Cotton. Mr. McConnell, the NNSA's acquisition cycle to 
modernize the weapons in our stockpile can take around 20 years. Do you 
think there's a role for a rapid acquisition effort in the NNSA that is 
dedicated to delivering capabilities faster by tailoring requirements 
and prioritizing speed?
    Mr. McConnell. NNSA is currently executing seven nuclear 
modernization programs in the program of record while sustaining the 
existing stockpile and recapitalizing the enterprise's industrial base. 
Major modernization efforts often take at least a decade.
    The evolving global security environment requires the nuclear 
security enterprise, in coordination with DOD, to rapidly demonstrate 
and potentially deploy new nuclear weapons with novel characteristics. 
The enterprise is developing weapon concepts that fill emerging 
deterrence gaps, producing systems at ``the speed-of-need'' while 
minimizing impacts to the ongoing Program of Record (PoR).
    NNSA believes the fastest and most efficient path to the rapid 
demonstration of novel capabilities is through the use of existing 
programmatic authorities. Today, NNSA is rapidly demonstrating 
capabilities on a small scale through initiatives such as the Stockpile 
Responsiveness Program (SRP). NNSA is modestly reorganizing this 
program within the Office of Research, Development, Test, and 
Evaluation (RDT&E) to accelerate execution. NNSA's Office of Stockpile 
Modernization is also streamlining execution where possible to field 
new weapons with service engagement and authorized acquisition 
programs; however, the office does not need any additional programmatic 
authorities. The B61-13 is the most recent example of rapidly fielding 
a new capability.
    Within current programmatic lines, NNSA is chartering a Nuclear 
Deterrence Rapid Capability Team (ND RCT) to streamline oversight and 
execution of rapid capability demonstration activities. ND RCT will 
integrate efforts across several subprograms to support up to three 
simultaneous projects that address identified capability gaps. As ND 
RCT executes these projects, it will identify opportunities and future 
activities necessary for full system development, production, and 
accelerated fielding, as directed.

    16. Senator Cotton. Mr. McConnell, should we use the approach used 
in W76-2 and the B61-13 programs, which delivered new capability in 
years, not decades, to address some of our near-term deterrence 
challenges?
    Mr. McConnell. The W76-2 and B61-13 programs are recent examples of 
NNSA using existing production lines to quickly adapt to a changing 
threat environment and rapidly deliver additional capabilities to 
address deterrence gaps. NNSA, in coordination with the Department of 
Defense, will continue to evaluate opportunities to apply similar 
approaches for future programs, however, these opportunities are rare.
    Recognizing that the evolving geostrategic environment presents 
challenges to the nuclear security enterprise, NNSA is chartering a 
Nuclear Deterrence Rapid Capability Team using existing authorities to 
address deterrence gaps identified with the Department of Defense.
                      personnel retention efforts
    17. Senator Cotton. Mr. McConnell, Fort Chaffee in Arkansas is home 
to the Training Command for the NNSA's Office of Secure Transportation, 
which transports nuclear weapons all around the country. What is your 
plan to improve both recruiting and retention of our transport agents 
trained here?
    Mr. McConnell. The Office of Secure Transportation's (OST) Federal 
Agents (FAs), also known as Nuclear Materials Couriers (NMCs), 
safeguard nuclear weapons, weapon components, and Special Nuclear 
Materials in transit throughout the nuclear security enterprise.
    Recruitment and retention of our FAs remains a top priority for 
NNSA. NNSA recently approved a 1-year extension of OST's 25 percent 
recruitment incentive for NMCs. Since offering this incentive in April 
2023, OST has increased Federal Agent class sizes. NNSA is actively 
recruiting OST agents to ensure our mission is executed securely and we 
continue to prioritize hiring for these critical positions.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                        enriched uranium supply
    18. Senator Tuberville. Mr. McConnell, I have been a proponent of 
thorium-based salt reactors for a long time, which is a promising 
energy source technology that we invented and later abandoned, but that 
China is known to be pursuing in our stead. Resuming the development of 
this technology relies on the United States taking advantage of our 
stockpile of Uranium-233--the largest inventory in the world--which the 
Department of Energy has unfortunately identified for disposal. Can you 
tell us the size and disposition of our remaining Uranium-233 inventory 
today?
    Mr. McConnell. Safely processing and disposing of the U-233 
inventory at Oak Ridge remains one of the Department's highest cleanup 
priorities. Disposing of the remaining U-233 will reduce the security 
posture at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, enable the demolition of 
legacy facilities, and significantly reduce security costs. The 
Department has completed direct disposition of about half of the total 
U-233 inventory at Oak Ridge. The remaining U-233 requires processing 
and down-blending before disposal, and the Department has processed 
approximately 40 percent of this material.

    19. Senator Tuberville. Mr. McConnell, what is the Department's 
latest plan for the material?
    Mr. McConnell. The Department will continue to process and dispose 
of the remaining U-233 at Oak Ridge, consistent with congressional 
direction. Our approach is enabling the Department to process U-233 in 
a cost-effective manner while also providing private industry with 
isotopes for next-generation cancer treatments. There is no suitable 
long-term storage solution for the U-233. If the Department were to 
forgo processing and down-blending, the government would need to create 
a suitable storage option, which would entail considerable time and 
cost. This could also jeopardize financial and other support for the 
disposition project and impact current contracts. Those impacts would 
eliminate material for cancer treatments worldwide and further impact 
the government financially.

    20. Senator Tuberville. Mr. McConnell, what can you tell us about 
thorium reactor technology and what advantage, military or otherwise, 
might China gain over the United States if it goes unchallenged in its 
pursuit of it?
    Mr. McConnell. Molten Salt Reactors (MSRs) are a class of advanced 
nuclear reactors under development that have the potential to 
contribute to many U.S. energy policy objectives. While some MSR 
designs might use a thorium-based fuel cycle, all current U.S. 
commercial reactors use uranium and the U.S. infrastructure for nuclear 
energy is built to support reactors that use uranium. There are two 
naturally occurring fuel source options for nuclear reactors: uranium 
and thorium. Both have been studied and developed in the past in the 
United States as potential fuel materials for nuclear energy sources. 
The choice of fuel material to be used in a nuclear reactor is made by 
the developers of the commercial reactor, and some MSR developers are 
designing concepts that could use thorium as fuel. With the absence of 
an economic driver to establish such a commercial thorium fuel 
infrastructure and with the current abundance of uranium, U.S. 
Government investment in a thorium fuel cycle is not warranted at this 
time. If a need for thorium fuel emerges in the future, this position 
may be revisited. The use of thorium fuels also poses a proliferation 
risk which would need to be mitigated to support their use in reactors.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                            right-to-repair
    21. Senator Warren. General Bussiere, you stated in the hearing 
that between the B-1, B-2, and B-52, ``we hover around the 50's for 
aircraft availability just because of spare parts and the legacy weapon 
sustainment''. Does the Air Force own the intellectual property rights 
needed to manufacture those spare parts itself?
    General Bussiere. Each aircraft spare part is unique in what it 
takes to manufacture or refurbish. The Air Force does not own rights to 
every part the bombers need to operate. Many parts are sent back to the 
Depots for refurbishment and other parts are re-manufactured after a 
lengthy process of finding and funding a company that did not initially 
build it.

    22. Senator Warren. General Bussiere, if the Air Force were allowed 
to manufacture the spare parts it needs or have the technical data 
necessary to allow other companies to compete to manufacture those 
required spare parts, could the bomber availability rate increase?
    General Bussiere. These matters generally fall under the purview of 
Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC). As such, Air Force Global Strike 
Command (AFGSC) defers to AFMC on this inquiry.

    23. Senator Warren. General Bussiere, how can the Air Force prevent 
new weapon systems from following a similar path as the bombers, where 
sustainment becomes a challenge due to legacy vendors who no longer 
make needed spare parts?
    General Bussiere. These matters generally fall under the purview of 
Air Force Materiel Command (AFMC). As such, Air Force Global Strike 
Command (AFGSC) defers to AFMC on this inquiry.
       national nuclear security administration non-proliferation
    24. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, the fiscal year 
2025 continuing resolution shifted $185 million from the NNSA's Office 
of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation (DNN) to weapons programs, 
threatening DNN's critical missions of securing nuclear materials 
worldwide so they don't fall into the wrong hands, enhancing nuclear 
detection capabilities, and strengthening arms control verification and 
monitoring. Do you fully support these DNN missions?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
is fully committed to Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation activities that 
have the greatest impact on making America safer, stronger, and more 
prosperous. Nonproliferation and nuclear deterrence are mutually 
reinforcing for U.S. national security as the strategic threat 
environment continues to evolve. DNN and Defense Programs (DP) work in 
concert to ensure that NNSA carries out its mission. DNN leverages the 
unique technical and scientific knowledge that underpins DP's Stockpile 
Stewardship Program for a range of nonproliferation, 
counterproliferation, and counterterrorism missions, from assessing 
foreign weapons programs and potential terrorist devices to enhancing 
security and safeguards for civil nuclear applications. Therefore, 
increasing funding for DP benefits DNN activities and NNSA's mission. 
Furthermore, DNN is revising its international engagement model to 
include more cost-sharing with partners thereby reducing program costs.

    25. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how important 
is NNSA's role in the U.S. Government's non-proliferation work?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
plays a pivotal leadership role in the U.S. Government's nuclear 
nonproliferation work, drawing on the unique capabilities of DOE's 
national laboratories, plants, and sites. From designing space-based 
sensors that detect nuclear explosions to removing weapons-usable 
nuclear material from foreign countries and managing and maintaining 
24/7/365 capabilities to respond to worldwide nuclear and radiological 
threats, NNSA performs vital national security functions that do not 
exist anywhere else in the U.S. Government.

    26. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how does NNSA 
plan to ensure that non-proliferation work does not fall behind at a 
time of growing nuclear risks?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
is strongly committed to its nonproliferation mission. NNSA has a 
proven record of responding nimbly to a changing global threat 
environment, ranging from programs to secure nuclear materials after 
the fall of the Soviet Union; to increased efforts to prevent nuclear 
and radiological terrorism after the attacks of September 11, 2001; to 
today's work to address nuclear and radiological threats in one of the 
most challenging geopolitical environments that the United States has 
ever faced.
    To keep pace with today's threat environment, NNSA is evaluating 
and leveraging emerging technologies including artificial intelligence, 
developing advanced monitoring and verification capabilities, revising 
our international engagement model to include more cost-sharing--
simultaneously reducing program costs and improving program 
sustainability. Additionally, NNSA is committed to providing its 
unparalleled expertise with nuclear topics to ensure any planning to 
address growing nuclear risks is technically informed.

    27. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, what impact 
will the current funding trajectory of DNN have on global nuclear 
threat reduction programs, particularly those focused on radiological 
material removal and illicit trafficking prevention?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: DNN 
is reprioritizing its efforts to focus on activities that have the 
greatest impact on making America safer, stronger, and more prosperous. 
This includes activities that permanently eliminate radioactive sources 
and that form partnerships in regions with the highest trafficking 
risks. To increase efficiency, DNN also is looking to expand burden-
sharing with its partners, so that they bear more of the costs for 
maintenance and sustainment of any support or equipment provided by 
DNN.

    28. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, and General Bussiere, the United States 
and Russia are no longer engaged in arms control negotiations, and 
Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty is set to expire in 2026. What specific 
risks does your office foresee if the U.S. enters a world without 
legally binding arms control agreements?
    Mr. McConnell., Admiral Houston and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: The expiration of the New START Treaty in February 2026--
absent any breakthroughs on arms control--will be the first time in 
decades there is no bilateral international agreement to limit the size 
of U.S. and Russian strategic nuclear forces. NNSA is preparing for 
this nuclear environment, including through the development, testing, 
and demonstration of applied monitoring and verification technologies.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. While the New START Treaty (NST) remains in 
force, Strategic Systems Programs is committed to fully implementing 
and complying with the Treaty, to include maintaining inspection 
readiness of all NST-declared facilities, providing required 
notifications of motor movements, and adhering to all other treaty 
requirements.
    I defer any questions about a world without legally binding arms 
control agreements to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Policy (OUSD(P)).
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
The expiration of the New START Treaty in February 2026--absent any 
breakthroughs on arms control--will be the first time in decades there 
is no bilateral international agreement to limit the size of United 
States and Russian strategic nuclear forces.
    DOD is preparing for this nuclear environment. Should the 
circumstances for arms control and risk reduction negotiations emerge, 
DOD stands ready to contribute to those efforts.
    General Bussiere. I defer to OSD to discuss arms control 
agreements.
         national nuclear security administration modernization
    29. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how is the NNSA 
addressing workforce shortages at key sites?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: The 
workforce at NNSA's laboratories, plants and sites is the 
organization's most valuable asset. NNSA has successfully implemented 
several initiatives to attract, recruit and retain employees for our 
M&O workforces, including recognizing service credit across the nuclear 
security enterprise to allow the movement of employees and introducing 
special targeted funds, stipends and bonuses to retain employees where 
attrition is high. The normalization of attrition to rates comparable 
to or lower tha historical rates indicate that these retention efforts 
have been effective.

    30. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, what are you 
doing to recruit and retain the next generation of nuclear scientists 
and engineers?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: The 
unique work within the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) 
requires specialized skills in a broad array of technical fields, many 
of which are in high demand within the private sector. The science, 
technology, engineering, and manufacturing capabilities within the 
nuclear security enterprise underpin NNSA's ability to conduct 
stockpile stewardship, solve the technical challenges of verifying 
treaty compliance, combat nuclear terrorism, detect and counter nuclear 
proliferation, and guard against the threat posed by nuclear 
technological surprises.
    NNSA's ability to meet these national security missions depends 
upon its ability to recruit, train, and retain its world-class 
workforce. As part of the strategy to address future workforce needs, 
NNSA has implemented multiple university programs to provide the next 
generation of scientists with the opportunity to acquire the experience 
and expertise needed to sustain the enterprise and provide valuable 
basic and applied research in support of NNSA's missions.

    31. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many NNSA 
employees have left in 2025?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: Since 
the beginning of the fiscal year 2025 (October 1, 2024) through May 31, 
2025, 148 employees in the Federal Salaries and Expenses (FSE) account, 
45 employees in the Office of Secure Transportation, and 21 employees 
in Naval Reactors have separated from NNSA. This includes four previous 
Deferred Resignation Program participants who have since separated from 
the agency and no longer receive salary and benefits.

    32. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many NNSA 
employees do you expect will leave or accept offers to leave?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: While 
130 employees across NNSA have elected to participate in the Office of 
Personnel Management Deferred Resignation Program and will be resigning 
or retiring in 2025, NNSA remains committed to upholding its critical 
mission to protect America's national security.

    33. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many years 
of work experience did each NNSA employee who has left since 2025 have?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
employees who have departed since the beginning of 2025 possess varying 
professional backgrounds. The average years of Federal Service of 
employees who retired, resigned, or transferred to other Federal 
agencies was 16.5 years.

    34. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, do you have any 
examples or data to indicate that the abrupt firing of parts of the 
NNSA workforce earlier this year undermines your recruiting efforts?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: There 
are no examples of data that indicate NNSA recruiting efforts have been 
undermined. NNSA is actively hiring Nuclear Materials Couriers within 
the Office of Secure Transportation and over 100 applications have been 
received to date for each advertised location.

    35. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many NNSA 
employees were fired at the request of the Department of Government 
Efficiency this year?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: DOGE 
did not direct the termination of employees at NNSA.

    36. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many NNSA 
employees were asked to come back after they had been fired?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: Of 
the 177 probationary employees initially terminated, all terminations 
were rescinded.

    37. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, how many NNSA 
employees returned after been asked to come back?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: Of 
the 177 probationary employees initially terminated, all but three 
elected to return.

    38. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, what were the 
costs of this firing and rehiring?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
has not conducted an internal audit to determine the costs attributed 
to these release and rehiring actions.

    39. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, what were the 
effects of this firing and rehiring on the NNSA's work and mission?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: NNSA 
continues to deliver on its critical national security missions without 
interruption.

    40. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell and Mr. Hoagland, with 
constrained resources and multiple programs facing delays, what 
criteria is the NNSA using to prioritize among competing modernization 
efforts?
    Mr. McConnell. and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: For 
stockpile modernization, NNSA executes the nuclear modernization 
Program of Record (PoR), as directed by the President and authorized 
and appropriated by Congress. Prioritization and sequencing of programs 
across the PoR is coordinated through the Nuclear Weapons Council, of 
which NNSA is a member.

    41. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, and General Bussiere, given the costs of deploying 
and maintaining a new nuclear cruise missile, should this program take 
precedence over investments in conventional capabilities like 
shipbuilding that could achieve similar deterrent effects?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: As this is not in NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the 
Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about investment strategy 
to the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Financial Management & 
Comptroller.
    General Bussiere. I defer to OSD for investment prioritization. 
AFGSC remains committed to ensuring the readiness and effectiveness of 
our Air Force's nuclear deterrent forces.

    42. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, and General Bussiere, has your office evaluated the 
operational effects that a new nuclear-armed cruise missile would have 
on the conventional mission?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: As this is not in NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the 
Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about operational effects 
of fielding SLCM-N to the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations.
    General Bussiere. The Air Force has operated nuclear-armed cruise 
missiles alongside conventional munitions for decades. AFGSC 
continuously evaluates the readiness of airmen to operate both nuclear 
and conventional munitions.

    43. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, and General Bussiere, how long could Minuteman III 
Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles, the current ground-based leg of 
the nuclear triad, stay operational?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: As this is not in NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the 
Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about Minuteman III to 
Air Force Global Strike Command.
    General Bussiere. Modernizing the land-leg of the nuclear triad is 
critical to maintaining a credible and effective nuclear deterrent. 
AFGSC, in partnership with the AFNWC, will continue operating and 
sustaining the Minuteman III weapon system to ensure that it remains 
safe, secure, and effective until it is replaced by Sentinel.

    44. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, and General Bussiere, if the Air Force plans to 
extend Minuteman III to 2050, would the Air Force and lead contractor 
Northrop Grumman Corporation benefit from additional time to better 
plan and manage the Sentinel program?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: As this is not in NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the 
Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about Minuteman III to 
Air Force Global Strike Command.
    General Bussiere. Additional delays will hinder the modernization 
of our capabilities and increase the risk of being unprepared for 
future threats. Furthermore, the issue of Diminishing Manufacturing 
Sources and Material Shortages (DMSMS) will continue to pose 
considerable challenges, which are expected to worsen as the Minuteman 
ages. AFGSC is actively collaborating with the Air Force Nuclear 
Weapons Center (AFNWC) to ensure the Sentinel program is brought online 
as soon as possible, while also maintaining the capabilities of the 
Minuteman III.

    45. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, and General Bussiere, President Trump and 
Vice President Vance repeatedly indicated support for denuclearization 
since taking office in January. Has the Administration or the 
Department of Defense made denuclearization a priority for your work?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: The Secretaries of Defense and Energy have reaffirmed the 
importance of modernizing our nuclear triad. The decision to enter into 
arms control negotiations rests with the President. NNSA stands ready 
to support the negotiation and implementation of any such agreements 
through our unique technical capabilities, especially as related to 
monitoring and verification.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about nuclear strategy to 
the OUSD(P).
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
Risk reduction efforts and arms control can contribute to U.S. security 
by helping to reduce the risk of nuclear conflict and inadvertent 
escalation. Any such agreements must enhance U.S. security, be 
stabilizing, and be verifiable. If the circumstances for arms control 
negotiations can meet these factors in support of U.S. interests, the 
Department stands ready to contribute to these efforts. As long as 
nuclear weapons exist, and until the security environment becomes 
conducive for disarmament, the Department will maintain a safe, secure, 
and effective deterrent.
    General Bussiere. The Administration has been clear about the 
importance of mitigating the risk of nuclear conflict, including by 
strengthening the U.S. deterrent. I defer to OSD to provide further 
details on prioritization.

    46. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, and General Bussiere, how is support for 
denuclearization reflected in the budget request?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: The Secretaries of Defense and Energy have reaffirmed the 
importance of modernizing our nuclear triad. The decision to make 
reductions to the U.S. nuclear stockpile rests with the President.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about nuclear strategy to 
the OUSD(P).
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
Risk reduction efforts and arms control can contribute to U.S. security 
by helping to reduce the risk of nuclear conflict and inadvertent 
escalation. Any such agreements must enhance U.S. security, be 
stabilizing, and be verifiable. As long as nuclear weapons exist, and 
until the security environment becomes conducive for disarmament, the 
Department will maintain a safe, secure, and effective deterrent. The 
Department's budget request funds full scope modernization of U.S. 
nuclear forces and NC3 capabilities, as well as modernization of the 
defense industrial base and the Department of Energy's nuclear security 
enterprise, which are critical to our ability to sustain our legacy 
nuclear force and deliver a modern force in the coming decades.
    General Bussiere. I defer to OSD to answer this question.

    47. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, and General Bussiere, what steps are 
being taken by your office to move toward denuclearization?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: The Secretaries of Defense and Energy have reaffirmed the 
importance of modernizing our nuclear triad. The decision to make 
reductions to the U.S. nuclear stockpile rests with the President.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about nuclear strategy to 
the OUSD(P).
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
Risk reduction efforts and arms control can contribute to U.S. security 
by helping to reduce the risk of nuclear conflict and inadvertent 
escalation. Any such agreements must enhance U.S. security, be 
stabilizing, and be verifiable. As long as nuclear weapons exist, and 
until the security environment becomes conducive for disarmament, the 
Department will maintain a safe, secure, and effective deterrent. We 
must continue to message to Russia and China that neither country will 
be safer in an unconstrained environment--a position we repeatedly hear 
from allies and partners in multilateral venues.
    General Bussiere. I defer to OSD to answer this question.

    48. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, Mr. Hoagland, 
Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, and General Bussiere, there continue to 
be numerous unanswered questions pertaining to operational impacts of 
the SLCM-N, impacted U.S. military communities, and relationships with 
allies such as Australia. How will the SLCM-N affect the conventional 
mission of our attack submarines?
    Mr. McConnell, Admiral Houston, and Mr. Hoagland. On behalf of NNSA 
witnesses: As this is not in NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the 
Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about operational effects 
to the Office of the Secretary of the Navy.
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
In accordance with section 1640 of the National Defense Authorization 
Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2024, as amended, the Department established 
the SLCM-N program in March 2024. As the program progresses to 
Milestone A, expected in fiscal year 2026, we will continue to actively 
evaluate the SLCM-N impacts to U.S. military communities, conventional 
missions, and allies.
    General Bussiere. I defer to Navy or OSD to discuss impacts SLCM-N 
could have on the conventional mission of attack submarines.

    49. Senator Warren. Mr. McConnell, Mr. Hoagland, and Mr. Jarrell, 
what will the potential infrastructure investment be to house these new 
missiles in communities that are currently not home to nuclear weapons?
    Mr. McConnell, Mr. Hoagland, and Mr. Jarrell. On behalf of NNSA and 
DOE-EM witnesses: As this is not in DOE-EM or NNSA's purview, DOE 
defers to the Department of Defense.

    50. Senator Warren. Admiral Houston, Vice Admiral Wolfe, Dr. Vann, 
and General Bussiere, how will this weapons system impact AUKUS 
[Australia, United Kingdom, United States]?
    Admiral Houston. On behalf of NNSA witnesses: As this is not in 
NNSA's purview, NNSA defers to the Department of Defense.
    Vice Admiral Wolfe. I defer any questions about AUKUS to the 
OUSD(P).
    Dr. Vann. Mr. Walter responded to questions on behalf of Dr. Vann. 
We continue to actively evaluate the SLCM-N impacts to U.S. military 
communities, conventional missions, and allies. We are committed to 
meeting congressional requirements for SLCM-N in a manner that is fully 
consistent with our obligations to our AUKUS partners.
    General Bussiere. I defer to OSD to discuss potential impacts.

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