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                                                        S. Hrg. 119-188

                    BAD MEDICINE: CLOSING LOOPHOLES
                      THAT KILL AMERICAN PATIENTS

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                                HEARING

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS


                             FIRST SESSION

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                             WASHINGTON, DC

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                            OCTOBER 8, 2025

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                     RICK SCOTT, Florida, Chairman

DAVE McCORMICK, Pennsylvania         KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York
JIM JUSTICE, West Virginia           ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts
TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama            MARK KELLY, Arizona
RON JOHNSON, Wisconsin               RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia
ASHLEY MOODY, Florida                ANDY KIM, New Jersey
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Opening Statement of Senator Rick Scott, Chairman................     1
Opening Statement of Senator Kirsten E. Gillibrand, Ranking 
  Member.........................................................     4

                           PANEL OF WITNESSES

Tony Sardella, Founder and Chair, API Innovation Center, 
  Distinguished Fellow of Health Innovation, Washington 
  University in St. Louis Olin Business School, Chesterfield, 
  Missouri.......................................................     5
Tony Paquin, President and Chief Executive Officer iRemedy 
  Healthcare, Inc., Stuart, Florida..............................     7
Andrew Rechenberg, Economist, Coalition for a Prosperous America, 
  Washington, DC.................................................     9
Marta E. Wosinska, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Center on Health Policy, 
  The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC......................    10

                                APPENDIX
                      Prepared Witness Statements

Tony Sardella, Founder and Chair, API Innovation Center, 
  Distinguished Fellow of Health Innovation, Washington 
  University in St. Louis Olin Business School, Chesterfield, 
  Missouri.......................................................    36
Tony Paquin, President and Chief Executive Officer iRemedy 
  Healthcare, Inc., Stuart, Florida..............................    45
Andrew Rechenberg, Economist, Coalition for a Prosperous America, 
  Washington, DC.................................................    70
Marta E. Wosinska, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Center on Health Policy, 
  The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC......................   101

                        Questions for the Record

Tony Sardella, Founder and Chair, API Innovation Center, 
  Distinguished Fellow of Health Innovation, Washington 
  University in St. Louis Olin Business School, Chesterfield, 
  Missouri.......................................................   119
Tony Paquin, President and Chief Executive Officer iRemedy 
  Healthcare, Inc., Stuart, Florida..............................   130
Andrew Rechenberg, Economist, Coalition for a Prosperous America, 
  Washington, DC.................................................   137
Marta E. Wosinska, Ph.D., Senior Fellow, Center on Health Policy, 
  The Brookings Institution, Washington, DC......................   141

                       Statements for the Record

Association for Accessible Medicines Statement...................   149
American Hospital Association Statement..........................   156
American Society of Health-System Pharmacists Statement..........   160
Continuus Pharmaceuticals Statement..............................   165
Doctors for America Statement....................................   179
Lupin Statement..................................................   181
Lupin - Coral Springs, FL Statement..............................   183
National Taxpayers Union.........................................   185
Teva Pharmaceuticals Statement...................................   191

 
                    BAD MEDICINE: CLOSING LOOPHOLES 
                      THAT KILL AMERICAN PATIENTS 

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                       Wednesday, October 8, 2025

                                        U.S. Senate
                                 Special Committee on Aging
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 3:27 p.m., Room 
216, Hart Senate Office Building, Hon. Rick Scott, Chairman of 
the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senator Scott, Tuberville, Johnson, Moody, 
Gillibrand, Warren, and Kim.

                 OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR 
                      RICK SCOTT, CHAIRMAN

    The Chairman. The U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging 
will now come to order. Last month, this Committee held a 
hearing about the dangers older Americans face due to unsafe 
foreign generic drugs. We exposed not only the threat posed by 
poor quality, generic drugs that can hurt or even kill American 
seniors, but also how dependent the United States is on 
dangerous supply chains that threaten shortages, keeping life-
saving drugs from getting to those who need them.
    The terrifying reality we face is that our Nation is 
completely beholden to Communist China and India for the vast 
majority of our generic drugs and their ingredients. Communist 
China is the world's largest producer of active prescription 
drug ingredients, and India, relies on Communist China for 
approximately 80 percent of the active drug ingredients it uses 
in drug manufacturing.
    A study from one of our witnesses, Mr. Tony Sardella, found 
that 83 percent of the top 100 generic drugs consumed by U.S. 
citizens have no U.S.-based source of active drug ingredients. 
Another 11 percent have only one domestic source of active drug 
ingredients.
    We also learned in our last hearing that if Communist China 
or India shut off the flow of these essential drugs, the U.S. 
would only have months of prescription drug supply, forcing us 
to begin rationing drugs and turn away all but then the most in 
need within a matter of weeks. Let me say that again. If 
Communist China, our adversary, or India decided to shut off 
supply and generic prescription drugs to the United States, we 
would run out of prescription drugs in a matter of months and 
be forced to begin rationing drugs and turning away all but the 
most desperately in need within a matter of weeks.
    I think everyone here remembers the supply shortages we 
faced during the COVID-19 pandemic; PPE supplies and even baby 
formula. Think about the catastrophic scenario we would face if 
millions of Americans didn't have the prescription drugs they 
need to survive.
    The health of older Americans is too important to leave to 
chance. Congress has to work with the Trump Administration, and 
now, to make sure that Americans have safe and high-quality 
drugs, and secure the prescription drug supply chain. Ninety-
one percent of prescriptions filled in the United States are 
for generic drugs. It's essential that the quality and safety 
of generic prescription drugs meet the same high standards of 
brand name drugs.
    A study showed that serious adverse events like 
hospitalization, even death, were 54 percent more likely for 
foreign generic drugs compared to American-made generic drugs. 
I'm not exaggerating when I say that people are dying in 
America today because of bad medicine from under-regulated 
markets in India and Communist China.
    When I asked Peter Baker, a former FDA inspector, if he 
would allow himself or his family to take generic drugs made in 
India or Communist China, he said not. He told us that he 
believed that Americans were being killed every day from 
foreign-made generic drugs. I want to say that again. A former 
FDA inspector who worked in China and India, told this 
Committee that he believes Americans are being killed every day 
from dangerous foreign-made generic drugs.
    Mr. Baker also told a heartbreaking story of having to go 
to multiple pharmacies with his elderly grandmother to find a 
safe generic drug for her prescription, only to be forced to 
accept an Indian-made drug that paid a massive settlement to 
the U.S. Department of Justice for falsifying quality testing. 
Peter knew that the drug in his grandmother's prescription was 
potentially dangerous, but had no other options.
    No American should ever have to deal with what Peter talked 
about, and be worried that a family member will be hurt or 
killed by the medicine that is supposed to heal or treat them. 
It's unacceptable for that to be happening in our country. 
Every American needs to get loud and demand change.
    Everyone knows that how I feel about Communist China, but 
I'm not the only one concerned about the dangers of foreign, 
major generic drugs. The BBC reported earlier, earlier this 
year that doctors in Communist China are worried about the 
quality of their generic drugs. One doctor said that 
antibiotics coming out almost entirely from Communist China 
were causing allergies and elevated blood pressure.
    Unsurprisingly, the Chinese Communist Party downplays these 
reports just like they've denied using slave labor, but this is 
a real problem and we cannot rely on low quality, ineffective 
generic drugs from Communist China.
    In our last hearing, our witnesses underscored quality 
issues that present real dangers to the health of patients. In 
2007 and 2008, heparin that sourced contaminated ingredients 
from Communist China killed up to 100 people in the United 
States. These problems continue to happen nearly 20 years 
later. In 2023, contaminated eye drops from India, killed four 
people, and caused adverse events in at least 55 patients. The 
Federal Government needs to ensure access to safe and high-
quality drugs today.
    Following our hearing last month, Ranking Member Gillibrand 
and I sent a letter to the FDA asking what steps they're taking 
to stop dangerous drugs from coming into our country. I also 
met with FDA Commissioner Makary and he talked about his fight 
to fix the issues we have highlighted. I applaud his attention 
to the issue, and the Trump Administration's work to increase 
the amount of unannounced foreign inspections, a crucial first 
step to holding foreign manufacturers accountable to the same 
standards we hold American manufacturers.
    When it comes to solutions, I believe one of the most 
important things we can do is to establish a federal buyer's 
market. The Federal Government is the largest purchaser of 
drugs in the United States, accounting for 40 percent of 
outpatient prescription drugs purchased as of 2018.
    On the Senate Armed Services Committee, I have pushed for 
the Department of War to leverage its buying power to 
prioritize purchasing drugs made in America, using American 
ingredients. Senator Warren held a hearing last year on this 
same issue. If no American option is available, then the 
Federal Government should prioritize drugs and ingredients from 
allies and Trade Act-compliant countries.
    The buying power of the Federal Government can move the 
needle and bring manufacturing for essential drugs back to the 
United States. The national security risk of relying on 
Communist China for essential drugs and drug ingredients are 
unacceptable. The same risk risks are unacceptable for seniors 
who trust they will have access to the drugs they need. In 
2024, the U.S. manufactured 37 percent of its consumed drugs. 
This number is down from 2002 when it was 83 percent. In just 
20 years, we have seeded control of our medical supply chain to 
Communist China and India.
    Even if we start prioritizing certain drugs or types of 
drugs like antibiotics which come as China's supplies, 90 
percent of the ingredients for globally, we'd be making our 
medical supply chains much safer, not just for seniors, but for 
all Americans.
    I will continue fighting for the Federal Government to 
purchase American-manufactured drugs. We cannot rely on 
Communist China for something as important as the health of 
Americans. Every American deserves to know where the drugs 
their purchasing came from. That is why I support mapping our 
supply chains as well as our country-of-origin labeling.
    I've introduced the Country of Origin Labeling Online Act 
to require country of origin labeling for consumer products. 
Consumers deserve to know where items they purchase are made, 
and for something as important as the medications you take, 
that information is crucial. I will be introducing legislation 
on country of origin labeling for prescription drugs that would 
require drug labels include the country where each drug 
ingredient and the finished drugs are manufactured, processed, 
or compounded.
    We've already seen Communist China place export 
restrictions on rare earth elements as part of trade 
negotiation, and there's no reason why they won't do the same 
for medicines. Agencies like the Department of War and Veterans 
Affairs stepping in to purchase American made drugs could bring 
industry back and create a steady supply of important 
medications and ingredients for the American people.
    Other steps like the Department of Commerce Section 232 
investigation could level the playing field for American 
manufacturers. Section 232 tariffs are for goods that impact 
our national security, and I can't think of anything more 
crucial to health of our seniors than generic drugs. On Friday, 
I sent a letter to Secretary Lutnick and U.S. Trade 
Representative Greer, encouraging them to immediately place 
Section 232 tariffs on generic drugs.
    This is a national security and a public health issue for 
seniors and all Americans. I look forward to this discussion 
with our witnesses on how we can make sure Americans never have 
to worry about missing a dose of their medication or the 
quality of drugs in their medicine cabinet. I'd like to turn it 
over to Ranking Member Gillibrand for her opening statement.

                 OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR 
             KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, RANKING MEMBER

    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Chairman Scott, for today's 
hearing. Thank you to all our witnesses for being here today. 
We really appreciate you. I'm looking forward to continuing our 
robust discussion on ways to improve and secure our domestic 
generic drug supply, which includes ensuring that 
pharmaceuticals entering the United States are of the highest 
quality and standard.
    During our previous hearing, we heard about some of the 
problems that consistently plague the generic drug industry and 
some proposals to begin to help to address the issues. Today, 
we will dig deeper into some bipartisan solutions that this 
Committee and other committees of jurisdiction can work on 
together to ensure Americans can access high-quality drugs that 
they need when they need them.
    Currently, too many active pharmaceutical ingredients and 
key starting materials are made outside the United States. 
Given recent instability in geopolitics and international trade 
policy, this reliance increases the risk that Americans may not 
have access to life-saving drugs in times of crisis, 
threatening our national security.
    However, we must approach strengthening and reforming this 
extremely complex supply chain thoughtfully and thoroughly. 
Generic drug manufacturers cannot simply flip a switch and move 
all components of production to the U.S. or other allied 
nations. To ensure Americans have a reliable supply of safe and 
affordable drugs, Congress will need to work to make more 
targeted investments in biotechnology, research, and 
infrastructure, to create long-term support and stability for 
this critical industry in our Nation.
    We must examine the underlying economic dynamics in the 
current marketplace and adjust incentives to fix the "race to 
the bottom" in generic drug pricing, which can create drug 
quality issues, drive manufacturing outside of the U.S., or 
cause companies to stop production of certain drugs altogether.
    Additionally, we must strengthen the ability of federal 
agencies to ensure strict oversight of foreign manufacturing 
facilities, to strengthen the supply chain and enable patients 
to access the quality medicines they need. As we look to 
address these issues, we must make sure drugs remain affordable 
for our constituents, particularly our seniors, many of whom 
are on fixed incomes.
    Americans are already struggling with high costs across the 
board, and I'm committed to working with Chairman Scott and my 
colleagues across the aisle to find solutions that serve our 
constituents by strengthening the generic supply chain, 
promoting quality domestic production, and protecting our 
national security.
    I look forward to this robust discussion, as well as the 
future potential bipartisan legislation on the issue.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Ranking Member Gillibrand. Now, 
I'd like to welcome our witnesses who are here to talk about 
their work to bring drug manufacturing of essential drugs back 
to the United States, and making sure the American people have 
access to the drugs they need.
    First, I'd like to recognize Tony Sardella. Mr. Sardella is 
the founder and chair of the API Innovation Center, a non-
profit that establishes public-private partnerships to secure a 
drug supply chain. He is a distinguished fellow for health 
innovation at the Olin Business School at Washington University 
in St. Louis. Thank you for the critical work you do and for 
being here today. Please begin your testimony.

        STATEMENT OF TONY SARDELLA, FOUNDER & CHAIR, API

       INNOVATION CENTER, DISTINGUISHED FELLOW OF HEALTH

      INNOVATION, WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY IN ST. LOUIS OLIN

            BUSINESS SCHOOL, CHESTERFIELD, MISSOURI

    Mr. Sardella. Thank you. Good afternoon, Chairman Scott, 
Ranking Member Gillibrand, and members of the Committee. As 
chairman indicated, I'm the founder and chairperson of the API 
Innovation Center, dedicated to building health security of our 
generic drug supply chain. I'm honored to be here this 
afternoon and share how our work at the API Innovation Center 
is addressing the severe challenge of a vulnerable U.S. generic 
pharmaceutical supply chain.
    There are three key things that I want to share with you 
today. The first, is the U.S. generic drug supply chain is 
over-reliant on foreign manufacturers, and specifically placing 
our seniors and veterans at severe risk. Second, the API 
Innovation Center's private-public partnership model is showing 
promise in addressing this complex issue and the economic roots 
that drove the dependency. Third, policy instruments can foster 
increased U.S. private sector investment and production to 
address our vulnerabilities.
    Our over reliance on foreign sources to meet our Nation's 
needs are quite stark. As Chairman Scott mentioned, research 
we've done found 83 percent of the top 100 generic medicines 
prescribed to Americans have no U.S. source. I'd like to share 
some new research we just conducted on behalf of the Committee.
    Our mapping of generic supply chain reveals that for 10 of 
the most frequently prescribed medications for our elderly and 
veterans, 95 percent of those medicines have no U.S. API 
source. Even more stark, 84 have no finished drug production 
and they're dependent primarily on China.
    This continues with the research we provided before that 
mapped our generic supply chain from drug all the way to key 
starter materials, and showed that for 40 critical medicines 
that we identified for our Nation to have its own secure 
supply, that the key starter materials were exclusively 100 
percent dependent on China. For half of them, half of those 
critical medicines and nation require.
    The API Innovation Center focuses on addressing this 
national security. It emphasizes modernizing existing idle 
domestic manufacturing that we uncovered through our research 
with manufacturers and doing so to ensure our resiliency and 
stable supply chain.
    The model has three key components. First, investment of 
public funds that APEC has received from the State of Missouri, 
as well as from the bio map as per federal program. That 
capital modernizes the production methods to produce these 
medicines.
    We not just bring back production, but we're producing it 
in modern, advanced, more efficient manners and also using new 
technologies, many of which have been developed here in the 
United States by equipment manufacturers. We take the 
investment in the new modern techniques and we contract 
existing idle FDA facilities that exist already to produce 
these modern methods of production.
    Third, we partner with long-term agreements with end 
healthcare systems, national retail pharmacies, as well as drug 
production companies to be able to ensure predictable demand 
and supply for the entire network.
    The approach is delivering promising results. Over 70 U.S.-
based manufacturers are collaborating and entering into 
agreements with APIIC to build an end-to-end domestic supply 
chain capable of sourcing, developing, producing, and 
distributing cost-competitive, U.S.-made medicines, with a 
near-term focus on 25 priority medicines that we've itemized, 
and a long-term goal of 300 medicines made here in the United 
States.
    The partnership enables the U.S.-based API and drug 
manufacturers to gain certainty of their demand and economic 
viability to produce in the U.S. It gives healthcare systems 
and national retail pharmacies certainty of supply and 
stability of cost, and our citizens and seniors gain a drug 
supply resiliency and we as a nation gain national security.
    While innovative partnerships are essential, policy plays a 
decisive role. There's a need, a critical need to clarify and 
harmonize the definition of made in America. For 
pharmaceuticals, current procurement rules allow drugs 
assembled in America, but comprised of foreign APIs to be 
labeled as USA-made. Second, the Federal Government's 
purchasing power can be leveraged. Last, sustained public-
private investment to modernize idle facilities. The 
vulnerabilities are significant but solutions visible.
    Thank you for the opportunity to share our research and 
perspective.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Sardella. Now, I'd like to 
introduce Tony Paquin, the co-founder, president, and CEO of 
iRemedy, a company from my home State of Florida, working to 
provide buyers with American made medical products. Mr. 
Paquin's company worked tirelessly to supply the Federal 
Government with medical supplies during COVID, and he brings a 
wealth of expertise into the medical supply chain.
    Mr. Paquin, thank you for being here today. Please begin 
your testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF TONY PAQUIN,

             PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER

           IREMEDY HEALTHCARE, INC., STUART, FLORIDA

    Mr. Paquin. Chairman Scott, Ranking Member Gillibrand, and 
members of the Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to 
testify.
    For over 25 years, I've worked in the healthcare 
technology, logistics, and distribution. At iRemedy Healthcare, 
we manage an artificial intelligence procurement platform that 
supports manufacturers worldwide. My experience includes 
building software, scaling networks, partnering with hospitals, 
manufacturers, and government agencies, all of which has given 
me a clear view of how our supply chain actually functions on 
the ground.
    That vantage point has revealed two urgent truths. First, 
that far too much of our production of essential medicines has 
been ceded to China and India, leaving our Nation dangerously 
exposed to weak oversight, counterfeit risks, and most 
importantly, price manipulation. Second, then an unintended 
consequence of that globalization is the concentration of our 
supply chain into a small group of intermediaries that 
restricts the flow of drugs into American hospitals, locking 
providers into contracts, and stifling supply chain and market 
innovation. Combined, these two truths are deadly.
    I grew up in Flint, Michigan, and have seen firsthand the 
prosperity of an active manufacturing economy as well as the 
devastation when industries are hollowed out. Today, I'm here 
to say bluntly, we must end our dependences on foreign 
adversaries, and restore control of our medical supply chain to 
the United States.
    During Operation Warp Speed, my company was a key supplier 
of needles and syringes. We delivered more than one billion 
items for the country's needs. What I witnessed during that 
period was alarming. At one point the Chinese Communist Party 
seized 40 percent of our China-based inventory awaiting 
shipment. We routinely dealt with bad actors attempting to 
bribe dock workers and factory managers peddling fake FDA 
510(k) certifications.
    As you know, the vast majority of prescription medicines 
are generic, yet those drugs overwhelmingly come from high-risk 
overseas suppliers. When supply lines are disrupted, we quickly 
see shortages of life sustaining medicines for conditions like 
diabetes, heart disease, and cancer oversight is essential for 
immediate relief.
    We must enforce unannounced FDA inspections overseas as we 
do here in the U.S. We must require a clear country of origin 
labeling, and independently validate imported shipments for 
quality.
    These are Band-Aid fixes that do bring transparency and 
deter quality failures, but they won't fix the problem. The 
only real cure is to reshore the supply chain, and I'm here to 
report that we can do so. First, APIs nearly all come from 
overseas, especially China. We must invest in new technologies 
and fast track permits for factories. We must treat this as the 
national security issue that it is and prevent bureaucratic 
delays.
    Second, generic drug manufacturing. Here's the truth. The 
technology already exists in this country to make generics 
profitably without raising costs for consumers. What we lack is 
fair competition. Generics are often a commodity, and foreign 
governments have learned how to weaponize commodity pricing 
against us. Until we level that playing field, American 
manufacturers will never have a chance to compete.
    Let me give you a real-world example. Oxford Pharmaceutical 
is an Alabama-based generic drug manufacturer with the 
capability to produce life-giving medicines domestically. 
They're a high-quality modern U.S.-owned example of American 
manufacturing excellence. They make drugs here in America 
efficiently, safely, and at scale.
    What stands in their way is a market that has been 
deliberately tilted against domestic producers. Even when 
companies like Oxford can produce at competitive costs, they're 
forced to compete against artificially subsidized Chinese and 
Indian importers that are all too often unfairly awarded U.S. 
Government contracts. Shockingly, this happened to Oxford just 
a few months ago.
    That system has to end. We must protect American producers 
with targeted licensing and trade enforcement. We must use 
artificial intelligence to overhaul the drug marketplace, and 
reform federal procurement so that U.S.-made drugs are the 
default, not the exception. If given fair access, domestic 
manufacturers can compete and win. If not, we remain captive to 
adversaries abroad.
    President Trump has shown leadership with executive orders 
to prioritize American made medicines, but we need an all-
government response involving regulation, legislation, and 
procurement. We must act now. First, apply the immediate Band-
Aid fixes; unannounced FDA inspections overseas, clear country 
of origin, labeling and randomized testing on imported drugs.
    These bias transparency, and time, then cure the disease 
reshore API production with new technology manufacture 
domestics generics domestically with fair trade protections 
free from foreign price manipulation, and use the full weight 
of government purchasing power to put resilience above cheap 
imports.
    Members of the Committee, this is not just economics. This 
is sovereignty. This is national security. It is needed to 
protect our seniors, our soldiers, and our families when the 
next crisis strikes.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for your leadership, and to the 
Committee for this opportunity.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Paquin. Next, I'd like to 
introduce Andrew Rechenberg, with the Coalition for Prosperous 
America, a nonprofit organization that represents American 
manufacturers and producers across a number of industries and 
sectors, to support domestic industry and protect our national 
security. Mr. Rechenberg has experience with the Department of 
War, as well as the Department of Commerce, and is an expert in 
trade industrial policy.
    Mr. Rechenberg, thank you for being here today. You may 
begin your testimony.

           STATEMENT OF ANDREW RECHENBERG, ECONOMIST,
       COALITION FOR A PROSPEROUS AMERICA, WASHINGTON, DC

    Mr. Rechenberg. Chairman, Ranking Member, and members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify here 
today. My name is Andrew Rechenberg, and I'm an economist with 
the Coalition for Prosperous America, leading analysis on 
pharmaceutical supply chains and domestic manufacturing.
    America's medicine supply chain is in a crisis. Two decades 
of offshoring have caused domestic pharmaceutical production to 
fall from 84 percent of the U.S. market in 2002 to just 37 
percent today, leaving 80 percent of active pharmaceutical 
ingredients with no U.S. source whatsoever. India and China 
have captured the market by undercutting American producers, 
not through efficiency, but through state subsidies, poor labor 
standards, and safety shortcuts.
    This dependence has consequences. As U.S. production 
collapsed, drug shortages tripled from 88 in 2002 to more than 
300 in 2024, driving 300 to 500 percent price hikes that erased 
any supposed cost savings. This is because 40 percent of our 
essential drugs rely on only a single manufacturer.
    When I was in Pharmaceuticals in India and was shut down in 
2023 for falsified data and safety failures, U.S. hospitals had 
to ration chemotherapy because one factory made half of our 
cisplatin supply. These failures show what happens when we 
chase the cheapest offshore medicine instead of safe American 
production. That is not resilience. It is a national security 
breach at the heart of America's healthcare system.
    It can be fixed. At CPA, we've developed a five-pillar 
strategy to rebuild pharmaceutical independence. Pillar 1, the 
tariff rate quota system restores control. The TRQ allows a 
limited volume of imports from trusted countries at zero tariff 
rates. Imports above that quota volume or from high-risk 
nations face steep tariffs. Quota volumes are based on the gap 
between total U.S. demand and current U.S. production, then 
adjusted each year as capacity grows.
    Trusted in-quota countries would be limited to those with 
equivalent FDA-recognized safety standards. This TRQ system 
rebuilds capacity steadily without disrupting short-term 
supply.
    Strengthening domestic production directly is just as 
vital. Pillar 2, the PILLS Act, provides production and 
investment tax credits for U.S. made generics, active 
pharmaceutical ingredients and biosimilars, plus a domestic 
content bonus for U.S. sourcing. This creates the conditions 
for sustained growth in U.S. pharmaceutical manufacturing.
    Rebuilding does take time. Pillar 3, FDA reform, ensures 
the safety of current imports. Ninety percent of foreign FDA 
inspections are pre-announced, and many plants go five years or 
more without review. When inspections do occur, they often 
reveal falsified tests and unsafe conditions, reflected in 
studies showing that generics made in India have a 54 percent 
higher rate of severe adverse events.
    Yet, for imports, the FDA still relies on company paperwork 
instead of independent testing. We can address all of this by 
requiring independent batch testing for imported drugs in U.S. 
labs, regular unannounced foreign FDA inspections, and strict 
penalties for offenders, including import bans.
    Next, Pillar 4, federal purchasing realignment treats 
medicine procurement as a matter of national security. It 
ensures that federal programs prioritize reliable U.S.-made 
medicines. This aligns directly with the pharmaceutical supply 
chain, Defense and Enhancement Act to strengthen domestic 
resilience and minimize reliance on risky and adversarial 
nations.
    Finally, we must look to the frontier of medicine. Pillar 
5, biotechnology leadership. The U.S. must invest heavily in 
NIH and biotech startup innovation, and raise clinical trial 
standards that protect U.S. patients and ensure drug quality. 
These steps will ensure the next generation of cures is 
discovered and made here at home.
    These five pillars are how we end shortages, ensure safety, 
and restore America's capacity to make the medicines our people 
depend on. America's medicine system is fragile by design, but 
it does not have to stay that way. Congress can act now to 
rebuild what was lost, and ensure that never again will our 
patients, our hospitals or our troops depend on foreign supply 
for life itself. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Rechenberg. Now, I'll turn it 
over to Ranking Member Gillibrand to introduce our next 
witness.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Chairman Scott. I want to 
move to introduce our next witness, Dr. Marta Wosinska. Dr. 
Wosinska is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution Center 
on Health Policy, with expertise in prescription drugs and 
pharmaceutical supply chains. Dr. Wosinska previously served in 
the Federal Trade Commission, in the Office of Inspector 
General at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 
and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Center for Drug 
Evaluation and Research. She's also served as economic advisor 
to the U.S. Senate Finance Committee. You may begin.

           STATEMENT OF DR. MARTA E. WOSINSKA, PH.D.,

            SENIOR FELLOW, CENTER ON HEALTH POLICY,

           THE BROOKINGS INSTITUTION, WASHINGTON, DC

    Dr. Wosinska. Chairman Scott, Ranking Member Gillibrand, 
and distinguished members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify at this important hearing. My name is 
Marta Wosinska, and I'm a senior fellow at the Brookings 
Institution. Today, I speak in my personal capacity, reflecting 
nearly 15 years of studying drug supply chain issues from 
within the government and outside, and with no financial stake 
in the outcome.
    Over all these years, I have observed what policy solutions 
catch the interest of lawmakers. I have seen that many of the 
solutions that resonate sound good, but they don't address the 
problem that lawmakers claim they want to solve.
    Today, as we talk about solutions, I urge you to ask the 
following questions; What specific problem is the solution 
meant to address? What else is needed for this solution to 
succeed? How do we handle the unintended consequences? Is this 
the most effective and efficient cost effective and efficient 
path? Only when you ask these questions, you will be best 
prepared to design policies that not only do the job well for 
patients, but also assured that taxpayer dollars are used 
wisely.
    For instance, if persistent drug shortages in hospitals are 
the top priority, durable solutions require shifting hospital 
incentives so that reliability, not just low cost is valued. 
Transparency to hospitals around supply chain reliability will 
be important, and you will want to keep far away from tariffs 
unless you fix various payment systems.
    If the concern centers on China, then the focus should be 
on antibiotics and, _for pretty much any other drug_ the focus 
should shift upstream away from pharmaceutical production steps 
and toward chemicals that are not regulated by FDA. You will 
also want to think about how to leverage India in de-risking 
from China.
    If the objective is to increase domestic drug 
manufacturing, which by the way, is a solution to supply 
concerns, not the problem, then any new facility counts as 
progress, regardless of whether it addresses areas of critical 
need or shortage risk. If domestic manufacturing is the goal, 
then you may not pay as much attention to whether policies 
designed to promote onshoring like tariffs could destabilize 
supply.
    What if we're concerned that weak FDA oversight abroad 
creates opportunities for defective drugs making their way to 
American patients? Onshoring could help because we will be 
building newer, more automated facilities, and FDA would have 
an easier access to these facilities.
    Let's be realistic. Onshoring will require government 
support to undo the economic forces that moved production 
offshore. In fact, a lot of government support. With 
constrained budgets, this means policymakers should prioritize. 
I would urge you to consider that essential medicines and choke 
holds with China are much more pressing onshoring targets than 
Indian-made statins or blood pressure medications.
    Fortunately, we do have other options for addressing 
product defect risks in commonly used medications. FDA can 
create greater quality assurance by increasing unannounced 
inspections, and Congress can support FDA by providing more 
resources, but we would need to do more because many industry 
observers and compliance professionals tell me that the current 
inspection-based model for oversight is not enough.
    This is where I urge the Committee to consider the proposal 
I published this morning, which would require every importer to 
designate a qualified person based in the U.S. with personal 
responsibility for verifying that each batch meets quality 
standards. Mandatory product testing would be part of that 
process. This system is already working for drugs in Europe and 
has precedent in U.S. drug regulations and other U.S. sectors 
like finance, where CFOs must personally certify financial 
disclosures.
    To conclude, let me reiterate that lasting policy must 
focus on clearly defining the problem, aligning incentives, so 
the right behaviors follow, and adapting proven practical 
solutions from other settings facing similar challenges. When 
reforms are grounded in clear objectives and match to the 
challenge, they will best protect patients and ensure prudent 
use of public resources.
    Thank you again for inviting me to participate. I look 
forward to your questions, and to this Committee's leadership 
in advancing meaningful reforms that will enhance both the 
quality and reliability of America's drug supply.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Dr. Wosinska. Now, we'll turn it 
over to questions we'll start with coach Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks for 
the panel being here today. I'm going to ask the obvious 
question, Mr. Rechenberg. If we closed our borders, do we have 
the ability, and the assets, and the chemicals that we could 
mine to make every drug that we need in this country?
    Mr. Rechenberg. No, not currently. That's why in the TRQ 
plan that I'm proposing, we do work with trusted countries with 
regulatory standards equivalent to our own. The FDA already 
recognizes this through mutual recognition agreements with the 
European Union, the United Kingdom, and Switzerland as well. We 
do have enough capacity when working with trusted equivalent 
regulatory nations like that, but currently on our own, no, we 
do not. That's why we need to rebuild this capacity.
    Senator Tuberville. Would we have to use China at all?
    Mr. Rechenberg. No, we would not.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Good. Mr. Paquin, when you talk 
about how companies like Oxford Pharmaceuticals should be used 
as an example of how it is possible to own shore drug 
manufacturing in a competitive environment?
    Mr. Paquin. That's correct, Senator. They are a very well 
run, significantly sized, highly automated production facility 
in Birmingham, Alabama. They really can produce pretty 
competitively. I think sometimes, we sort of misunderstand a 
little bit of the cost factor of these drugs.
    Amlodipine, for example, costs about two cents a dose to 
manufacture, but it is reimbursed by Medicare Part D at 10 
cents. Actually, the manufacturing cost is a very small part of 
the total cost that ends up going to the consumer or to the 
payer. The manufacturers like Oxford Pharmaceutical here in the 
United States can operate pretty competitively if they're not 
at target of unfair competitive practices coming out of India.
    Senator Tuberville. What changes do you think we need to 
make to have Oxford and other companies to be on a level 
playing field? What do we need to do?
    Mr. Paquin. Well, I think there's really two main things we 
can do, but there's two immediate actions that we could be 
looking at. I think Andrew and the Coalition for Prosperous 
America made a good recommendation about, you know, quotas 
based on the marketplace, and not allowing a country like India 
to overwhelm our supply, thereby driving down the value of 
those drugs.
    Second, the VA and the U.S. Government should really 
prioritize domestic manufacturing over foreign manufacturing, 
and that is something that can be done without any major 
additional cost to the government and is not happening 
currently.
    Senator Tuberville. You mentioned in your testimony that 
Oxford has modern FDA-approved facilities, but still loses 
contracts to virtual importers tied to China and India. Can you 
explain what that says about the way our current system works?
    Mr. Paquin. Well, first off, I would say it doesn't work 
very well in terms of recognizing the national security 
implications and just the good sense of supporting a domestic 
manufacturer. Those contracts that they recently lost were 
probably a lowest price, technically acceptable type of 
contract.
    I think what's happening there is the VA is really not 
applying the right way to think of technically acceptable. All 
generic drugs, I would argue, are not equivalent. A generic 
drug manufactured in Birmingham, Alabama, is probably going to 
be much higher quality and reliable than a drug made somewhere 
in India where we don't have good access to surveillance of 
that manufacturer.
    I think that--and then also, when we look at technically 
acceptable, we should consider resilience issues, investing in 
our domestic manufacturing capability should be one of the 
considerations when somebody like the VA is putting a contract 
out for bid.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Mr. Rechenberg as we saw 
during COVID, United States is way too relying on China, we 
mentioned that, and India. How can a well-designed tariff rate 
quota system be used to strengthen domestic production and 
mitigate shocks or supply shortages in the U.S. market?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Yes. The main cause of the supply shortages 
in the market right now is disruptions to these very few sole 
manufacturers in China and India. We're very much reliant on 
the single source vulnerabilities, but if we give the market 
space for U.S. producers through a tariff rate quota system, it 
very much encourages companies to reinvest in the U.S. and 
bring production because there's this guaranteed market space 
that domestic producers can capture.
    Over time, it will bring back and diversify our supply 
base, which will lead to less shortages over time as we have 
more backup options and more U.S. domestic supply.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Ranking Member Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Senator Kim.
    Senator Kim. Thank you. Dr. Wosinska, I wanted to just 
start with you. I was intrigued by what you raised in terms of 
that idea about the EU-qualified persons. I guess I just wanted 
to start by just asking, does the framework like that model 
already exist in other sectors in the United States? I felt 
like you said something about on the finance side and others, 
but I just wanted to get a little bit more clarity from you 
just how novel of an idea this is.
    Dr. Wosinska. It's actually not a novel idea. I mean, for 
one, it has been used in Europe for decades, but in the United 
States, in terms of FDA and something that FDA is already 
familiar with during when FSMA passed, so the Food Security 
Modernization Act, there are a couple of programs for drug 
importers.
    I discuss in the paper that I published earlier today where 
the importer is an extra layer of verification that the product 
that is being imported into the United States, they have to do 
a certain set of checks, and in a sense, verify. There's a 
person who is responsible for verifying and signing off that 
everything meets the standards that are expected.
    We have that, we have it in the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. It's 
the same general concept that somebody takes on personal 
responsibility for what is being put forward. It also exists in 
an of other professions where there is actually this kind of 
accountability that's added.
    Senator Kim. Given your knowledge about, you know, our 
markets and our structures here in terms of this industry, how 
challenging would it be to be able to implement this? How 
significant of a change would this create?
    Dr. Wosinska. You would have to modify legislation. You 
would have to--the HELP Committee would need to make changes to 
the Food Drug and Cosmetic Act. That would be necessary.
    In terms of how big of a shift it would be, it would depend 
how it would be designed. I don't think we have enough time to 
kind of go into the details about what are the levers, but for 
example, the qualified person framework in Europe applies to 
every manufacturer, including domestic European manufacturers.
    Here, the idea is to, in a sense, complement what FDA is 
already doing, complement the areas where they are struggling 
much more, which is with countries that don't have comparable 
regulatory systems, and so, you could narrow it down in that 
particular way.
    You know, there's a question, do you do it? There's 
mandatory testing that Europe does, and the product actually 
have to make it into Europe first before it gets tested. It 
sits there in warehouses. Would that be necessary? It adds to 
cost, but then it also adds a certain level of assurance.
    One thing I would like to mention is that there are 
different ways of trying to solve this and level the playing 
field. If you were to ask me, I would prefer to level the 
playing field in a way where we actually have this kind of 
quality assurance, because overnight, we're not going to be 
able to switch away from our reliance, especially on India.
    India in 2024 produced 61 percent of solid oral dose 
products that we sell in the United States, and the full market 
is 187 billion pills, and India makes 60-61 percent of them. 
We're talking about 180 different facilities. We're talking 
about API facilities of probably over 200, well over 200. The 
size of this is massive, and I think we need to prioritize. One 
way for us to deal with that is to save onshoring for 
priorities and figure out some other ways to deal with 
manufacturing quality.
    Senator Kim. Well, I think the idea is that we can have 
multiple tools that don't have to run sequentially----
    Dr. Wosinska. That's right.
    Senator Kim [continuing]. but simultaneously. Mr. 
Rechenberg, you raised the issue about independent batch 
testing and things that are somewhat similar to what we just 
heard. I don't know how familiar you are with this qualified 
person model. What's your sort of initial reaction to that, and 
what else can we be thinking about in terms of independent 
batch testing?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Yes, I think that this is also a critical 
point for anything that we're currently importing needs to be 
verified for quality. Because a lot of the time, in the U.S. 
currently, we're getting drugs that are imported, and we only 
find out after the fact that they have these bad tests, and 
then they're recalled, and U.S. patients have already taken 
them.
    If we adopt a more European-style model where we have this 
independent batch testing that in order to have these drugs 
released into the U.S. market, they have to be tested and 
verified that they are quality drugs, that they work for what 
they say they're going to work for. Then this will greatly 
reduce the risk. This is an essential first step.
    Senator Kim. You think it's worth exploring these different 
ideas that are out there?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Absolutely.
    Senator Kim. Okay. Well, thank you so much, and with that, 
I'll yield back.
    The Chairman. Senator Johnson.
    Senator Johnson.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, having supplied the 
medical device industry for close to 30 years, I mean, this is 
just quality control 101 we're talking about here. It's 
actually shocking it's not in place. Chairman knows I'm big 
into data, so I want to understand the raw material supply 
chain here. We talk about precursor chemicals. Approximately, 
how many precursor chemicals do you need? What's the universe 
of that? I'll ask you, Mr. Paquin, or whoever knows it.
    Mr. Sardella. I could say within one dimension. We looked 
at 40 critical medicines. They were based on seven foundational 
chemistries, so seven to make the 40 started with raw 
chemistry, seven raw chemicals, they got converted into key 
starter materials. Those got converted to active pharmaceutical 
ingredients and then drug. The ratio is not of magnitudes of 
order that's insurmountable. It's achievable.
    Senator Johnson. How many total drugs are we--how many 
total drugs? Anybody have a number?
    Mr. Sardella. It is 3,200 approved drugs for use in the 
United States.
    Senator Johnson. Over 3,000?
    Mr. Sardella. Correct.
    Senator Johnson. How many active pharmaceutical ingredients 
comprise those 3,000 drugs?
    Mr. Sardella. We don't have specific data on it, but I 
would say in the hundreds, not thousands, by any means.
    Dr. Wosinska. For API it would be the same number. Because 
a drug is the API. It would be the same number, but the 
question is how many intermediates, or reagents, or solvents, 
or key starting materials, that will be less.
    Senator Johnson. Again, I'm just--so are there 100 
precursor chemicals, or is that overstating the case?
    Mr. Sardella. Probably, a little higher than 100 as raw 
chemicals. I mean, within magnitude of order.
    Senator Johnson. Almost all those are produced in China.
    Mr. Sardella. A predominant number of those are produced in 
China. Our chemical manufacturing base moved to China many 
decades ago, and they control that.
    Senator Johnson. If you're getting a brand name drug, are 
those precursor chemicals for the brand name drugs produced 
here in America?
    Mr. Sardella. No. They would be likely also produced 
elsewhere. Keeping in mind that most of our new branded drugs 
are biologicals, and we're talking about drugs that are called 
small molecules. They're chemically derived.
    Senator Johnson. We are highly deficient in the base raw 
material, right, the precursor chemicals. Most in China, even 
with brand name drugs, that's a precursor chemical coming in 
from China. Is it easier to quality control than the active 
pharmaceutical ingredients?
    Mr. Sardella. The key starter materials from a control 
standpoint still have issues in regards to their quality. If 
you want to say, like, impurities still exist in those key 
chemicals----
    Senator Johnson. Because we're taking those precursors 
chemicals now for brand drug, are they also getting the API 
then primarily?
    Mr. Sardella. That is correct.
    Senator Johnson. Then, they're just stamping the pill. Dr. 
Wosinska, you're shaking your head.
    Dr. Wosinska. API is largely for branded drugs, is largely 
made in the United States and Europe.
    Senator Johnson. Okay, say that over again?
    Dr. Wosinska. For branded drugs, API is overwhelmingly made 
in the United States and Europe, but using----
    Senator Johnson. Not in China, but using precursor 
chemicals primarily from China.
    Dr. Wosinska. Only if they are small molecules. Back to the 
point that Tony made, if you have biologics, the ones--and a 
lot of the branded drugs are biologics, those are made with an 
entirely different process. That's not chemical. You actually 
grow them in cells.
    Senator Johnson. Okay. Then that's done here in the U.S.?
    Dr. Wosinska. That would be done in U.S. and in Europe.
    Senator Johnson. The precursor chemicals, that's a 
frightening process, requires permitting. Why was that off 
shored? Because of permitting process? Or is there any kind 
of--I wouldn't think in big man, you know, large refining 
process, you're going to have much cost advantage due to 
offshore. Is it a primary problem of permitting?
    Mr. Sardella. No, the genesis of that offshoring had 
multitude of factors. One was regulatory oversight in the 
United States for those facilities versus foreign, the cost of 
labor in foreign countries versus the United States.
    Senator Johnson. Refining, you got a lot of equipment, and 
there's not many people hanging around a refinery plant.
    Mr. Sardella. Well, and the third part was this a desire 
not to have those facilities here or near populations in the 
United States
    Senator Johnson. Because it's a dirty manufacturing 
process.
    Mr. Sardella. Just large emissions, large facilities.
    Senator Johnson. Correct. We're going to first have to 
overcome that. There're basic and precursor chemicals, and we 
have to have that honest discussion.
    By the way, Dr. Wosinska, you know, we are staying on the 
same hymnal here. You know, solve a problem. You had to first 
properly define it. That's why I'm--again, I've only got five 
minutes. I'm basically out of time here. We need to properly 
define this problem. We need to understand the raw material 
supply chain. We need to understand volumes. We need to 
understand how many--what we're talking about. Before we leap 
to a solution that's mistargeted, but let's get all this data 
down. Again, this, Mr. Chairman, I really appreciate this 
hearing. This is extremely important. We need to fully 
understand this. We need more data.
    Mr. Sardella. If I could add to it, one of the things I'd 
mentioned was the fact that we're not just reshoring, we're 
using advanced technology. The ability to convert those large 
facilities into equipment that fits on this table is a critical 
added value. Bringing it to United States with advanced 
technologies, advanced equipment that allow us to make those 
facilities smaller, cleaner, and more efficient.
    Senator Johnson. But let me, final point. Doing a QC check 
on even imported drugs, this is not rocket science. Now people 
can cheat on it, it needs regulatory oversight. This should not 
be hard. It's shocking that it's not already in place. It shows 
the failure of our federal health agencies. Truthfully, it's 
the utter failure that this is happening today.
    The Chairman. Well, the fact that we don't have, we don't 
have a supply chain, we don't have a map, right? There was no--
we haven't thought about having a map. We've allowed ourselves 
to be so dependent, it doesn't make any sense.
    Senator Johnson. We've known about these drug shortages for 
a long time and we've done nothing about it. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    The Chairman. Ranking Member.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I welcome this 
Committee's eager efforts on this issue, because I think we can 
make a difference on a bipartisan basis on this.
    Dr. Wosinska. Let's talk a little bit more about China, 
specifically. You mentioned your concerns about antibiotics, 
and that should be prioritized. Tell us what else you think 
should be prioritized. What specific medicines do you believe 
are most vulnerable to dependency? Lay the out the risk for us.
    Dr. Wosinska. Thank you for this question. I think every 
one of us here at this table would agree that antibiotics are 
by far the most vulnerable. If you actually look at India and 
what the Indian government is concerned about, they are also 
themselves very nervous about their own reliance on China, 
especially around antibiotics.
    A lot of the subsidies that they are doing is to actually 
de-risk their own supply chains, actually on our behalf to a 
large extent, so, this is great because they're invest, they're 
making these investments without the American consumers having 
to pay, for taxpayers to pay for this, but there's this concern 
about antibiotics. That's by far the most concerning. I think 
it's much more difficult back to the mapping exactly which 
drugs have the largest exposure to China other than that.
    I would say is, that we don't have to figure that 
antibiotics need support and we need to move on other things. 
We do need to do more homework and understand it. I will say 
that in terms of mapping, I am a little wary about mapping it 
for everything. I would much rather start with: here are the 
essential medicines, and here, let's figure out where they come 
from, because those are the ones that we know we will be able 
to secure
    I would probably start prioritizing drugs first in terms of 
their importance, and then really in detail mapping, because 
it's not just figuring out where the KSM comes from. The key 
starting material is only one of the chemicals that you use. 
You need reagents and you need solvents. Those are largely made 
in China.
    You need to know all the pieces. If you try to do this for 
3,000 drugs, we're going to be stuck in analysis paralysis for 
a really long time. I would say yes, absolutely mapping, but 
let's prioritize where we map first.
    Senator Gillibrand. Does anyone want to add to that answer 
from their perspective?
    Mr. Sardella. I do. On the mapping, one of the things we've 
found is we have worked to map several hundred, is that there's 
purposeful obfuscation of where the supply comes from and so 
on.
    Senator Gillibrand. By whom?
    Mr. Sardella. By companies in China, who in other areas 
where they don't----
    Senator Gillibrand. They pretend they're from the United 
States.
    Mr. Sardella. Correct. They are many different versions of 
a company. You can't quite track back to is it produced in a 
China facility? It could be a multitude of reasons. It could be 
that maybe the facility has some sort of FDA warning. It could 
be just based on business and ownership structure that they 
don't want it to be known who owns which company. It's very 
difficult.
    We've found that although we're working through it, there 
are data sets that allow you to identify where those sources of 
are coming from, from beginning to end.
    Senator Gillibrand. Tony or Andrew, do you have anything 
you want to add to the China problem?
    Mr. Paquin. Yes, I would just add that I think it 
underscores our inability, ultimately, to have oversight into 
China, and to really understand what the problem and the 
sourcing is. I agree that we should focus on essential 
medicines. That's a definable problem. We can zero in on that. 
I think the strategy is to then move that into domestic 
manufacturing as quick as possible. Then we have control of the 
supply chain.
    Mr. Sardella. If I could add to that. We've also taken a 
lens on not only essentials because some of these are very, 
very low-cost medicines, but also what do the healthcare 
systems need? What do national retailers need? What does the 
government need? What makes economic sense to produce here in 
the United States with advanced technology? When we put those 
lists together, we did come together with a prioritized list 
where it makes economic sense. There's demand for those 
medicines, there's a need for them and they can be a 
sustainable investment by the us.
    Senator Gillibrand. Have you submitted that list to us?
    Mr. Sardella. We've submitted it in collaboration with 
ASPR, and be happy to submit those as well.
    Senator Gillibrand. Please submit it to the Committee.
    Mr. Sardella. I'll be happy to.
    Senator Gillibrand. Andrew?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Yes. The final part that I would add is 
that this does have to be a drug-by-drug approach, especially 
for a program like the TRQ. I agree that the antibiotics are 
one of the most critical and one of the most urgent to start 
on. These are going to have different solutions because they 
have different supply chains.
    Additionally, I would say that India is not necessarily a 
de-risking from China. India has plenty of its own problems, 
whether it's safety issues, FDA flags that have been in Indian 
facilities. As on top of that, India had the same problems 
during COVID. They cutoff some of their supply to the United 
States, not because of any adversarial, geopolitical reasons, 
but they have their own population they're trying to supply. 
The more we can bring back to the U.S., the safer our supply 
chain will be.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The Chairman. Senator Moody.
    Senator Moody. Thank you, Chairman Scott. Thank you to our 
witnesses for being here today, especially a great Floridian. 
Always appreciate seeing a fellow Floridian.
    You know, I think during the COVID years, a lot of things 
came to light that maybe Americans weren't paying attention to, 
even those in the industry. Dependencies for our drug supply 
chains on these four nations, I think, really started hitting 
home for a lot of people.
    I don't think most Americans know that more than 50 percent 
of the manufacturers supplying our market, it's coming from 
overseas. I don't think they know that. I don't think that they 
know that, one of you mentioned, 80 percent of active 
pharmaceutical ingredients are manufactured overseas, or that 
China and India combined, make up 85 percent of active API 
filings. I don't think Americans understand that.
    Just for having this hearing, I think, Chairman Scott, does 
Americans a service in shining a light on this specifically 
when you look at the fact that drug and API manufacturers in 
China and India receive the most FDA warning letters for 
violations, which can mean carcinogens and medicines 
destroying, or falsifying data and non-sterile manufacturing. 
Everybody's shaking their head, correct.
    I mean, how long has this been prevalent, that we've been 
seeing these types of violations? Has that increased as our 
dependencies on these foreign nations has increased?
    Mr. Paquin. I think this is a, you know, unintended 
consequence of the globalization activity over the last 20 
years. Senator, and I think you make a very good point. COVID 
really created the awareness because it broke the global supply 
chain, and then we all experienced what you're referring to. I 
think that the average person in America is not really aware of 
this problem.
    I do believe that there is a growing awareness that we 
didn't have maybe five or ten years ago. You know, when we talk 
about the various actions to take place, and obviously, I keep 
going back to the idea of bringing supply back to domesticating 
here, the United States. The idea of country of origin labeling 
on a medication would probably do a lot toward what you're 
describing, and that is making the average consumer, and by 
that, I mean not just patients, but also the doctors, and 
pharmacists, and healthcare professionals aware of this risk, 
and that'll probably serve us well as we try and correct the 
problem.
    Mr. Sardella. I wanted to add, when we commenced the 
initiative informed the API Innovation Center, it's only been 
three years in existence. The first study we did was a 
perception gap study, and that study looked at the perception 
of our reliance, of shortages, versus real data around the 
shortages.
    What was striking at that time was the two most important 
stakeholders in our country underestimated the risk scientists 
and government. I really commend these hearings to expose that 
both from a government and a scientific community. By nation, 
we greatly underestimated the risk of shortages and 
overreliance compared to other nations like China, India, and 
Europe.
    That perception gap is starting to close thanks to these 
types of sessions and the interest. We're working effortly to 
continue with our publications to close those gaps.
    Senator Moody. I have to imagine that if consumers had the 
information and the choice, knowing where about the increase in 
violations, I mean at this point is are consumers ever informed 
that where the main ingredients and the drugs that they're 
taking are manufactured?
    Mr. Sardella. Very unlikely. There's no transparency. This 
is a very interesting concept. This is an industry like any 
other supply chain. Any other supply chain, you can look and 
understand where the product comes from, what the ingredients 
are, and where it's sourced. Not our pharmaceuticals.
    Any other product that you procure has clarity where you 
can compare quality of that product. You cannot compare the 
quality of the pharmaceuticals as a result. One in every four 
prescriptions in the United States is from a facility that has 
an FDA violation. A quarter of the prescriptions have a 
violation. I don't want to create alarm. Some of them are 
simple procedural violations, but nonetheless, it means a 
quarter are being prescribed that have some sort of violation 
on the FDA. It is not known.
    What's also striking is while we overestimate the cost when 
we work with manufacturers, we're talking like less than a 
penny to have a U.S. existing manufacturer manufacture that 
medicine here in the United States with the highest quality of 
manufacturing standards.
    Senator Moody. I'm out of time, but I hope you will 
explore, Mr. Chairman, as you do your questioning, the national 
security implications for a failure in that supply chain. Thank 
you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator. Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
Ranking Member for holding this hearing today. We're talking 
about a broken supply chain, and I was looking at the numbers 
on this.
    The U.S. imports seven times the amount of drugs that we 
were importing in the year 2000. That's how much this has gone 
up, and you-all are discussing how our reliance on foreign-made 
pharmaceuticals exposes Americans to drug shortages, to safety 
risks, and exposes seniors more than anyone.
    For years I've been working with my colleagues to try to 
advance reforms, establishing stronger transparency rules, 
closing loopholes in the Buy American requirements. I just want 
to say we've gotten a lot of pushback from people who make a 
lot of money by keeping all of this opaque, and maximizing 
their profits, and minimizing safety for the American people.
    Today, I want to hit on something that you all have 
mentioned, and that is how we get more drugs manufactured 
domestically. How do we move our supply chain here to the 
United States. Mr. Rechenberg, you're an expert on drug supply 
chains. You know that other countries are subsidizing the 
manufacturer of prescription drugs. How does that affect our 
ability to make these drugs here in the United States?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Yes, and this is one of the main problems; 
that these foreign companies are being subsidized by their own 
governments. They're able to severely underprice U.S. producers 
and drive them out of the market.
    We really need a comprehensive approach here, starting with 
something like a tariff rate quota system to create a space in 
the market for U.S. producers. We need to supplement that with 
direct production incentives for companies, whether through an 
act like the PILLS Act or through federal procurement. Federal 
procurement can be a huge part of this, and incentivizing and 
prioritizing American-made medicine.
    Senator Warren. Let's talk a little bit about buying here 
in the United States. The Federal Government could make it 
easier and less risky for manufacturers to make their products 
in the U.S. if we would just leverage the power of our federal 
contracts.
    That means the government makes a deal with the 
manufacturer, and says, we guarantee we will buy a certain 
volume of drugs over the next several years. That makes it 
better for you. Make the investments, you get out there, you 
produce the drugs.
    Now, the DOD actually has contracts for essential 
medicines, because for obvious reasons, it is important to make 
sure that our service members have the drugs they need as a 
national security issue. I have been pushing DOD to make those 
contracts, domestic production advances.
    Mr. Sardella, you lead the API Innovation Center, and 
you've actually looked in to how many critical drugs rely on 
ingredients manufactured exclusively in China, I think you were 
talking about this earlier. Would it help national security to 
expand federal contracting programs at DOD and other agencies 
and focus them on domestic drug manufacturing?
    Mr. Sardella. Absolutely. It would be a significant lever 
to bring back a strong U.S. industrial base for manufacturing. 
I commend all the incredible work you've done in this area. 
Then second, one of the elements that would be also very 
effective is shifting the contracting vehicle from what is an 
IDIQ, indefinite demand, indefinite quantity, in business.
    Indefinite demand and indefinite quantity does not reduce 
the risk. There's no certainty you could lose a contract or 
volume turning that into a certainty of demand and volume and 
even cost or price so that a manufacturer can make an 
investment. We have a small business in Missouri where we've 
placed two medicines for manufacturing for a healthcare system. 
We've provided them our technology that we developed. They are 
now making investments to expand their facility because they 
have certainty that the healthcare system is giving them a 
long-term agreement. If the newest government did the same, we 
expect the same.
    Senator Warren. You and I are in the same place on this; 
that more robust federal contracting can create the kind of 
sustained demand that manufacturers need so that we can 
eliminate these supply chain vulnerabilities and protect our 
national security.
    For me, that is reason enough to implement them. Some 
critics have warned that, oh, if you shift to American-made 
drugs, it will be too expensive. On the other hand, we're 
paying a price, A for vulnerability, and B, if our seniors end 
up taking drugs that are ineffective and so they are sicker, 
they stay sick, or if our hospitals are getting price gouged 
during shortages.
    Mr. Rechenberg, do you think that shifting to more domestic 
manufacturing of pharmaceuticals would over the long run cost 
more money or save more money?
    Mr. Rechenberg. It would save far more money. We've seen, 
as I mentioned in my opening statement, 300 to 500 percent 
price hikes during a shortage. That's one way we would save 
money, but also, we're paying a lot more every time the 
medicine's not there, and the PE have to be in the hospital 
longer, or you have to have substandard medicine or the 
hospitals have to pay extra staff to take care of people. Over 
the long run, you save much more money than you would otherwise 
because you stop these shortages and you guarantee safer, more 
effective medicine.
    Senator Warren. Thank you. You know, Americans shouldn't 
have to worry about the quality of their prescriptions, whether 
they're safe to be able to take, whether they're effective, 
what will happen if the supply chain breaks. For me, that's 
reason enough to manufacture right here in the United States 
and using federal contracts to lower those production costs.
    I think there are a lot more benefits for doing this. That 
is why I have a bill, the Pharmaceutical Supply Chain Defense 
Enhancement Act that would do just that. I hope we can get some 
bipartisan support and get that moving. Thank you very much. 
Again, thank you Mr. Chairman for holding this hearing today.
    The Chairman. Thanks. Senator Warren, we served on a 
subcommittee together, Subcommittee on Armed Services. We had 
she had a hearing and the individual from DOD tried to explain 
that he couldn't buy American because there's regulation that 
required him to buy foreign, and then, we found out that there 
was no regulation.
    Senator Gillibrand. I think there's a regulation that says 
to buy the cheapest. There's always a cheap thing, and that's 
the problem that we talked about.
    The Chairman: He couldn't explain.
    Senator Gillibrand. He probably didn't know.
    Mr. Sardella. We have analyzed those costs for specific 
molecules among our industrial base, and we verify that they 
can be produced by U.S. manufacturers an equivalent price. 
What's preventing that is certainty that they will have a long-
term agreement to supply it so that they can make the 
investment.
    Then, second, we submitted data for the Congressional 
Budget Office based on this bill that showed one must and think 
of it as one temporal point in time where an adversarial 
country or a foreign manufacturer purposely to drive out, all 
U.S. manufacturers put the price way below the cost.
    If you look at it on a five-year average, as Andrew said, 
you would save significant dollars because once they drive 
every U.S. manufacturer out, they increase the price, massive 
volatility. It has to be looked at from a budgeting office on a 
five-year average basis. That's not even, to bring in what 
Andrew said, it costs over tens of millions of dollars per 
shortage of drug within a healthcare system. They're incurring 
significant costs of those shortages as well.
    The Chairman. You know, and I just get followup----
    Senator Warren. I was just going to say, I get really 
frustrated on this, that people treat risk as if it's free. We 
are paying a price for risk, for the fact that yes, we got it 
right down to the tightest nickel on how to purchase this 
stuff. It's a very fragile system for way, just pay for another 
way. That's a cost.
    The Chairman. We'll go back to what Senator Warren was 
bringing up. If we had--if we took the DOD and we took the VA, 
right, if we just took those two and they--I'll just take their 
drug buying, would that be enough volume to move volume?
    Mr. Sardella. You would transform the U.S. generic supply 
chain, and you would also cause a force function for private 
markets to then also now procure from U.S. manufacturers, 
because of the reasons we just said, you don't want a quarter 
of your pharmaceuticals in an FDA violation site. You want to 
have certainty in local response time resiliency. You would 
fundamentally transform our generic supply chain.
    The Chairman. What percent of the generic drugs that the--
if the DOD and VA did just their generics, what percent of the 
volume that come into the country, would that be you? Just 
like, is that of 100 percent of generics sold? What percentage 
does DOD of that 100 percent and VA together.
    Mr. Sardella. Oh, I don't have specifically those numbers, 
but it from a standpoint of moving the market and creating an 
industrial base, 200, 300 medicines into generic would cause a 
significant resiliency base and a U.S. manufacturing base.
    The Chairman. All right. Then Mr. Sardella, so you've 
worked with companies that have opened up plants----
    Mr. Sardella. Expanded.
    The Chairman [continuing]. so have they been able to make 
the price almost equivalent to what's being bought from 
overseas?
    Mr. Sardella. Correct. With new technology. We're not just 
saying make it the same way. We're through the private 
investment in public from State of Missouri and ASPR, they're 
making it in modernized methods. I give the example, it's like 
they currently make them in batches, the size of this room. 
Now, they make them in equipment that's the size of this table.
    The Chairman. Do you have what the return on investment is? 
Do you know if--so if you were going to invest, how much would 
it take to open up a plant and how, what would be the how long 
would it take to get your money back? Do you have any idea yet?
    Mr. Sardella. On some of the drugs, because we're focused 
on expansion because there's 30 billion doses of idle capacity 
in the United States, 30 billion just sitting there. We're 
focused on taking those idle facilities that are already FDA-
approved. What it means is they can get the drug commercialized 
in less than five years and they get a return on investment in 
three years.
    The Chairman. Three years. Okay. We actually don't have to 
invest money--I'm a business guy. If you gave me a three-year 
return, I'll do that every day. Right?
    Mr. Sardella. Absolutely.
    The Chairman. I mean, so, okay, so number one, we can get 
the cost down and number two, we can get the investor gets a 
return.
    Mr. Sardella. Correct. The return's so strong that our 
partners are going and getting their own loans to be able to 
expand facilities.
    The Chairman. What we got to do is go back to what Senator 
Warren said; we got to commit volume.
    Mr. Sardella. Correct.
    The Chairman. If just DOD and VA did it, and that's it.
    Mr. Sardella. It'd be transformational.
    Dr. Wosinska. Can I just add? It's in maybe 10 percent of 
total volume. I mean, it absolutely would bring some domestic 
manufacturing to the U.S., it would help secure supplies for 
VA, but it's too small of a fraction to really create change in 
the rest of the market. It's not to do it, I absolutely 
encourage you to do it. This is a perfect thing to that, you 
know, very sensible thing to do. We need to think beyond that 
because we need to sort of change the dynamics in the rest of 
the markets in the 90 or so percent, in the markets, to change 
how those markets operate and what they value.
    The Chairman. Just a caution, I ran a hospital company, and 
I was two percent of the entire healthcare dollar. I focused 
on, you know, I could move all the volume in the whole country, 
I could force everybody to change based on buying, based on 
quality. Everybody had to change. I would just even--because 
nobody would, there's no--I was the biggest committed buyer in 
the VA. I think you're--what you said makes sense, but reality 
is most people are not committed buyers. That's why if we have 
really committed buyers, then I think it'd have a bigger 
impact.
    Dr. Wosinska. I'm sorry that Senator Warren left because 
Senate Finance actually has a proposal on that that was put 
forward last year, that exactly does this; the idea for the 
most vulnerable supply chains, which are a lot of the generic 
sterile injectables is to create committed contracts, and then 
have add-on payments for choosing reliable manufacturers. 
Absolutely, the same concept. It really would be great to see 
movement on that side.
    The Chairman. Have any of you done business with the DOD or 
VA?
    Mr. Paquin. Yes, we've done business with the DOD and the 
VA.
    The Chairman. Did they care about quality?
    Mr. Paquin. No. You know, I was going to bring that up. I 
commented earlier about technically acceptable, and I think 
that's a mis defined term in this circumstance. They're not 
considering resilience. For example, they're not considering 
the benefits of supply chain, and they're viewing that drug 
overseas as equivalent to the drug domestically made. I think 
that's the big mistake. I would say that what we could use 
would be a DOD set aside requirement for American made for 
example. I completely agree that the VA could lead the charge.
    I think you'll find that private hospitals or the 
commercial hospital business that you're familiar with would 
actually follow that lead. I think they're ready to recognize 
the need for resiliency and stability in the supply chain. You 
need that big buyer to step up and start the process. I think 
that's the VA and the DOD.
    Mr. Sardella. I can confirm what Tony is saying, because we 
are aggregating demand with healthcare systems and retail 
pharmacies knowing that this is a national priority for our 
Nation. They are willing, as he said, and that would give a 
further indication to aggregate demand across their systems to 
procure U.S.-based supply for the benefit of the system.
    The Chairman. For each of you, if you had a choice, there's 
two different, same drug, and you had one little bottle that 
said, "Made in the United States," okay. The other bottle said, 
"Made in China." How many of you would buy same price? Look, 
they both look really nice. Same little, pretty bottle. How 
many of you would buy China?
    Mr. Sardella. I might want to disclose that my original 
background is as a toxicologist in this context, I would 
absolutely buy the U.S. medicine.
    The Chairman. Anybody buy China? No? What if it added on 
there that whether American or Chinese, that it's under an FDA 
violation, however small. There's some website that you can go 
to see what it was. Would that have an impact on you?
    Mr. Paquin. Yes. Clearly, we would avoid buying anything 
that had an FDA violation. You know, when you think about 
something so sensitive as a drug, right, we're not buying a toy 
or a vitamin. We're buying something that affects our health in 
a very personal way. We'd buy quality.
    The Chairman. The thing about the buyers in this country, 
Federal Government, hospitals, nursing homes, GPOs, doctors, 
pharmaceutical chains, have you known any of them that 
required--they did it based on quality?
    Mr. Paquin. No, I regularly do business with all those 
entities, and they don't really require--they may want to, but 
there isn't a method for them to assess that quality as we've 
been describing. There's really no independent way to measure a 
report.
    The Chairman. Good, but Tony, they could say, "I'm not 
doing it. If you haven't had an FDA inspection within three 
years, I won't do it."
    Mr. Paquin. They could do it for sure.
    Dr. Wosinska. Can I add something?
    The Chairman. Sure.
    Dr. Wosinska. I have studied generic sterile injectable 
shortages really for 15 years. Transparency often comes up that 
we don't know which manufacturer is reliable, but at the end of 
the day, it's the lack of incentives, and the fact that 
hospitals and GPOs do not fully internalize the harm that comes 
with it. The numbers that Andrew commented on----
    The Chairman. Can you go through--when you say the harm, 
how would you define the harm?
    Dr. Wosinska. Yes. The amount of money that hospitals--and 
there was a study, $360 million from additional costs resulting 
from shortages. It seems like a large number. This comes out--
--
    The Chairman. Just because of costs.
    Dr. Wosinska. Right. They have to have additional staff and 
whatnot that comes out to $60,000 per year. That's nothing for 
a hospital. That $60,000 is nothing for a hospital. If you look 
at how much for a day----
    The Chairman. That's for a day, by the way,
    Dr. Wosinska. This is for a year, right?
    The Chairman. I know.
    Dr. Wosinska. If that's the level of the cost, you know, 
hospitals are very strongly incentivized to buy the cheapest. 
In a sense, it makes sense. These drugs are therapeutically 
equivalent. You're paying for quality, right?
    The Chairman. We're not paying for quality.
    Dr. Wosinska. We are not paying for quality. We're not 
paying for quality. I will say that I have to disagree with 
Andrew here. I don't think there's free lunch. If we want to 
have reliability, if we want to have resilience, if we have to 
want to have quality, we will have to pay for it. I think it's 
a--you know, we have to ask ourselves how much are we willing 
to pay for it? But there are ways to do it, but you have to 
change incentives.
    I think, you know, Civica Rx, I don't know if you're 
familiar with that organization, right? They do a lot of 
homework around where the drugs are made. They have stockpiles, 
they have long-term contracts. Hospitals are not signing up for 
these contracts. They're really wary about this because, oh, my 
goodness, they might actually end up paying more, right? We 
have to change the fundamental incentives, and shift sort of 
how hospitals are thinking about it.
    The Chairman. Well, the problem--I used to be in the 
business, I just say nobody came to my hospital because I 
served Pepsi over Coke. Nobody came because I did this, you 
know, I had this drug or that drug, or I bought my drugs in the 
United States, or I bought my drugs someplace else.
    Dr. Wosinska. There isn't accountability for hospitals 
either. If they have a shortage, they point as the 
manufacturer, right? It ultimately ends up with the patient, 
unfortunately.
    The Chairman. Andrew, when you say that it pays for it, 
have you been able to do a study of what the additional costs, 
additional hospitalization, blah blah blah, any of those 
things? Have you done that?
    Mr. Rechenberg. Yes. We're currently working on a study to 
get an exact number here. From all the research that we've done 
so far, looking at the productivity costs, the shortage costs, 
and as well as just the worst patient outcomes, whether it's 
delayed care, rationed care, or getting substandard treatment, 
the cost vastly outweighs.
    We're currently in the process of making a study to get an 
exact number on this, but it is clear already that the long-
term cost is much, much more savings than it would be by paying 
the marginally more rates in the beginning.
    Then on top of that, I'll add for this buyer's side, for 
the hospital, because we don't have this mandatory country of 
origin labeling, the hospitals themselves often don't know what 
the supply chain risks are
    The Chairman. Even if they wanted to do the right thing.
    Mr. Rechenberg. Exactly. Especially when it comes back to 
the API. They have so little visibility into the quality side, 
they have to go for the price, and that inevitably pushes 
things more offshore.
    Dr. Wosinska. I can tell you that where it really does pay 
off is for the patient. There was one study that looked at one 
particular shortage, one shortage of a drug, and the fact that 
more patients ended up dying of septic shock because the 
alternative was not available. When you looked at the cost of 
life, and you calculated the number of patients that died, that 
single shortage cost over $13 billion.
    Senator Gillibrand. The hospital doesn't pay that cost.
    Dr. Wosinska. Exactly. The hospital does not pay that cost. 
There's a big gap between the----
    The Chairman. It's worse.
    Senator Gillibrand. You pay the hospital.
    The Chairman. That's right. The worst is that we don't pay 
for results like we should pay. We should pay different. Like, 
if somebody doesn't do your car, fix your car, right, you don't 
pay, but every healthcare provider thinks, well, you still have 
to pay. Why?
    Senator Gillibrand. The problem is, you're talking about 
dynamic scoring, which is not how the hospitals balance their 
budgets. When you do your analysis, you say it's only costing 
them $60,000 a year because they're not obligated to factor in 
all the costs and harm caused to the patient, or to society, or 
to any other stakeholder outside of their bottom line. That's 
the problem. Like, the costs are spread to us. The profits are 
given to the provider.
    When they're doing their cost-based analysis, they're 
saying, "Well, we are going to go with the cheaper drug." The 
DOD is the same. Every purchaser in the system today has 
multiple factors, but cost is almost always the factor. I 
believe----
    The Chairman. It's the decision today, not the long-term 
cost.
    Senator Gillibrand. Correct. No one does dynamic scoring. 
No one actually wants to bear the full brunt of the cost. I 
think part of this Committee's job is to really do all the 
pieces that you've all suggested; country of origin labeling, 
making sure we know the quality upfront, have an incentive as 
you say, to do the quality testing, make sure that the cost, as 
you've decided, Andrew is documented to the world, to the 
patient, to the United States.
    Then to the other piece of national security that's not 
even you calculable. You can't calculate what will happen if 
we're at war. The risk if we're at war with China and you can't 
get antibiotics into this country and how many millions of 
people die, the cost of that is trillions of dollars. It's 
incomprehensible.
    The truth is, this is a reason why no one's done this work 
before because the cost is incalculable. I'm really excited 
about the work this Committee's doing, and I think it's 
important.
    The Chairman. It seems like if you go through the process 
to make movement, the easiest thing is because they report to 
us, DOD and VA, right, if they started buying based on buying 
American, that would move the needle, right? That would move it 
the fastest. The other is why doesn't--we talk about these 
violations, FDA, or the FDA knowing that we only have one 
supplier. Why aren't they doing something?
    Mr. Sardella. In regards to diversifying?
    The Chairman. Yes, I mean, why wouldn't they? I mean if 
they're responsible for us staying safe, right?
    Mr. Sardella. Well, their mandate is to ensure that 
manufacturers comply with CGMP manufacturing practices, and 
that before they even produce those medicines, that they've 
been vetted through analysis of them. Going beyond as to 
managing the supply chain itself and saying how many, that 
would be outside their bounds in regards to what they would 
work on. I would also ask----
    Dr. Wosinska. Yes----
    Mr. Sardella. I would also say that--sorry Marta. Just one 
line. I would also say that that strategy also does something 
very different as well. It's a strategy of redirecting as 
opposed to countering, right, as opposed to countering and 
trying to counter India and counter China, which will be very 
resourceful, right? Being able to start with redirecting 
manufacturer through procurement U.S.-based requirements, U.S.-
based prioritization.
    Which by the way, we're the only nation that does not 
prioritize their domestic manufacturing source over foreign. 
The ability to do that is a far more higher probability of 
success because you're redirecting, you're not countering, 
which is difficult.
    The Chairman. Did you want to say something? Okay. Just off 
the top of our head, we can think about the VA, DOD, we should 
have some sort of map. Even if we start, like you said, you 
can't start big, you should even if we start small and then we 
should have higher expectations for all of our buyers.
    Senator Gillibrand. Demand transparency, I definitely think 
that can require transparency.
    The Chairman. Sorry, go ahead.
    Senator Gillibrand. We should require transparency. We 
should require labeling. We should require information. Then, 
that also can move a market because you can shame people into 
not--like if they're not caring where their drugs are coming 
from, and they're not caring about the outcome to their 
patients, you can shame them into better participation.
    Then, if the DOD and the VA can be the standard bearer or 
the hallmark of success, and show that long-term their costs 
aren't going skyrocketing high, they can then make the case you 
should do these long-term investments, get the quality drugs 
you need.
    Then pushing Governors and pushing Presidents to invest 
domestically, because the other point you all raised up is that 
most of our adversaries and most of our competitors, they do 
domestic investment. I mean every company in China is wholly 
owned by China. Like, they will do all the baseline 
investments.
    We can create an investment fund that actually invests in 
domestic production to incentivize it. Even if we don't want to 
create a pot of money, we certainly can create massive tax 
incentives. There's many ways to create carrots.
    The Chairman. Well, and what if Tony said it's right, 
there's a three-year payback. I mean you don't have to invest a 
dime.
    Mr. Sardella. Especially, if you're using existing 
facilities, and that's the key.
    The Chairman. At least short-term, we have plenty of 
capacity.
    Mr. Sardella. We have over 30 billion doses of capacity.
    Senator Gillibrand. Also, you can use the Defense 
Production Act to require us to use that capacity.
    Mr. Sardella. That is correct.
    Senator Gillibrand. Once we map capacity, if you've already 
done that, we can publish that to say we will then ask the DOD, 
and the VA, and the President to ask each of these 
manufacturers to use all their capacity to begin to ramp up 
domestic production of the top 10 required generic drugs for 
our safety and survival.
    Mr. Sardella. You have facilities that are highly 
experienced at producing these medicines. They should be 
leveraged first and foremost because they're experts in these 
areas, like the companies that Tony brought up. Before even 
starting up new facilities, we will need, ideally--hopefully, 
we'll be able to open new facilities. Leveraging the incredible 
experience we already have in this industrial manufacturing 
base that is elite and being able to provide them new 
technologies, that's where the investment, I believe, is the 
greatest place.
    It's about investing and allowing for sustainable 
independence by these manufacturers. We don't want the 
government to continue to have to invest in them, modernize 
their facility, leverage their expertise. Let them invest 
themselves now that there's a market and allow them to be 
sustainable long-term economically to produce these medicines.
    You've created the demand. Demand investment in 
modernization so they can compete so long-term we don't have to 
revisit this and have to continue to fund it. The industries 
themselves can do it.
    The Chairman. Great. Okay, go ahead.
    Dr. Wosinska. Can I comment on transparency? I think it's 
really, really critical. The way I think about transparency is 
who needs what information and what are they going to do with 
it? I think it's really, really critical to ask that question 
because some transparency for the sake of transparency is not 
going to get you anywhere. Transparency can actually sometimes 
backfire.
    I am a very big proponent about the government having 
transparency. This is how you decide what to prioritize, where 
to invest. This is why it's important for FDA to know that 
manufacturers might have a problem and this buys them time. For 
example, hospitals really want an early warning system of 
shortages. You know what that means? That means that they 
basically have a sign to a stockpile really early, and then FDA 
actually has much less time to try to fix the problem.
    Where I get really nervous is transparency to consumers. 
I'll tell you why. I actually have a story very similar to 
Peter Baker's story, and it actually involves my mother, if I 
would be allowed to share this story. I've never shared it 
publicly.
    My mother was diagnosed with cancer in early 2020, and she 
needed to get radiation, and chemotherapy, and it was going to 
be oral chemotherapy. It was a 60-day supply of a pill, and it 
was going to be an old generic, and knowing what I know, I got 
very nervous. I started to--I basically thought; if my mom 
doesn't respond well to this therapy, I will never forgive 
myself because what if that product was not made to 
specification?
    I actually have access to a lot of information, and I 
looked at who the manufacturer is for this NDC, and I looked, 
you know, where it might be manufactured and what are the 
alternatives. It was really difficult for me, and I have access 
to really top information. You would think that I would be the 
first person to say, "We need to fix it."
    You know, what I learned from this experience is the 
complete opposite because of what happened next. I went to one 
pharmacy, and I said, "Can you dispense me this NDC?" They 
said, "No, we don't do special orders." I went to another 
pharmacy, I got the same answer. Pharmacies are reimbursed in 
exactly the same way. It's a low business margin.
    You have one option when you go to a pharmacy. Unless we 
were to fix how pharmacies are reimbursed and how pharmacies 
stock, the patient only has one choice; to pick it up or not 
pick it up. This is not like going to a store where you have 
five shirts and you get to choose one. They don't have a 
choice.
    By giving this information to consumers where there's 
absolutely no (financial) incentive for a pharmacy to do 
anything about it and respond, that is a recipe for a lot of 
non-adherence. Yes, I would prefer to choose the non-Chinese 
drug over a Chinese drug, but in a pharmacy, I'm not going to 
have that option. It's really, really, really important that we 
either fix the pharmacy reimbursement policy or look for 
solutions elsewhere.
    The Chairman. Let me give you my response. I really believe 
in transparency, and I'll give you a story. I've run a bunch of 
companies, and you know what every employee wants, they want 
every hospital in the network. That means you get no discounts, 
right? The reality is if I had two plans, and everybody's 
included in a plan that's cheaper with just one hospital, 
include a smaller network.
    Some people would pick one because they know it, but some 
people would pick a bit more expensive. I actually really 
believe that people, they'll look at it and look, is it going 
to be perfect? No. People buy bad, ugly sweaters sometimes, but 
I believe over time it'll force whoever the pharmacy is.
    If I walked in, and I had one, and it said if I would 
just--I'd start bugging them. We see it now. We see it with 
people buying America. You know, you can even get on Amazon, 
which still doesn't disclose all country of origin, but you go 
to Amazon now and they have sections. I can tell you, I've 
talked to people that make it America, they put the label on 
made the America, their revenues go up.
    I believe it's--I agree with you, it's not going to be 
easy. It's not going to be perfect. The information never is 
perfect, if we do it all, it will force people to change. They 
will change. I've seen it in too many businesses. Do you want 
to add anything?
    Senator Gillibrand. No, you can close us out.
    The Chairman. I want to thank everybody for being here 
today and participating. I look forward to continue working 
with members across the aisle, down the dais. If any Senator 
has additional questions for the witnesses or statements to be 
added, the hearing record will be open until next Wednesday at 
5:00 p.m.
    I want to thank each of you for being here, and if you have 
any suggestions for either one of us going forward, we are 
going to get this fixed. Thank you.
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                            October 8, 2025

                      Prepared Witness Statements

                             Tony Sardella

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                            October 8, 2025

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                              Tony Paquin

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                        Questions for the Record

                             Tony Sardella

                  Ranking Member Kirsten E. Gillibrand

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                         Dr. Marta E. Wosinska

                  Ranking Member Kirsten E. Gillibrand

    Question:

    You have written about how federal transparency initiatives 
will fall short of their goals if purchasers, such as 
hospitals, have no economic or institutional motivation to act 
on such information.
    How can hospitals be incentivized to consider quality and 
reliability over the cost of drugs?What are some of the 
potential downsides of transparency initiatives should they not 
be executed alongside other initiatives, such as reforming 
economic incentives?

    Response:

    Transparency initiatives in drug manufacturing often fail 
to achieve their intended goals-not because the information is 
wrong, but because they lack the right incentive structures to 
motivate action. Simply making information available is not 
enough; those who receive it must be both motivated and 
equipped to act on it in ways that align with broader economic 
incentives or institutional structures. Without this alignment, 
transparency efforts become costly nice-to-haves, and may even 
produce unintended consequences that worsen the very problems 
they were designed to solve.
    To understand which transparency approaches are most likely 
to succeed, it is useful to first examine the main types of 
transparency initiatives and how they interact with underlying 
economic incentives-which often diverge from what serves 
patients best. There are three main types of transparency 
initiatives:
      1.Government-facing initiatives
      2.Patient-facing initiatives
      3.Institutional buyer initiatives
    Existing government-facing initiatives primarily focus on 
mapping supply chains to identify geopolitical exposure and 
with it identify which drugs require alternative sources in 
which production stages of supply chains. Incentives to act on 
this information will be driven, to a large extent, by Congress 
(by setting out the tools and directives as well as 
appropriating funds to follow through) and the administration 
(by identifying which existing tools they can deploy).
    Patient-facing initiatives include adding to the pharmacy 
label either the Country of Origin or a rating of product 
quality. The goal of these efforts is to shift markets through 
patients as they begin to shop for versions that presumably are 
less likely to have product defects. There are two intertwined 
reasons, however, why such initiatives could go astray. First, 
without reforms for how pharmacies are reimbursed, patients 
have limited options in how they respond to sourcing 
information, other than deciding not to fill the prescription. 
Second, neither measure is strongly correlated with actual 
product quality, making potential misinterpretation by patients 
particularly concerning.
    When it comes to institutional buyers, efforts have focused 
largely on creating transparency in the hospital and clinic 
sector, not the retail pharmacy sector (where the consumer-
facing measures seem to have gotten more attention). In the 
hospital space, there are two main types of transparency 
initiatives:
       Supply chain reliability assessments and;
       Early warning systems.
    The data needed to support these transparency initiatives 
varies depending on the goal. Supply chain reliability 
assessments focus on evaluating the long-term dependability of 
a manufacturer's supply chain over the duration of a multi-year 
contract, using indicators such as plant redundancy, inventory 
controls, raw material sourcing, risk management practices, and 
historical shortage records. In contrast, early warning systems 
aim to detect abrupt risks or disruptions in the near term-
drawing on real-time signals like new shortage posts on the 
ASHP website, reports of product discontinuations, sudden order 
limits from any wholesaler, newly announced adverse FDA 
inspection findings, recalls, or reports of supply 
interruptions in global logistics. The economic incentives for 
these two transparency approaches diverge sharply.
    Early warning systems enable hospitals to continue 
prioritizing low-cost procurement without regard for long-term 
supply reliability, only shifting tactics and rapidly 
increasing orders at the first hint of trouble. This dynamic 
offers clear advantages to well-resourced institutions equipped 
to act quickly, which in turn has driven commercial vendors to 
develop various rapid alert tools. Yet this competitive 
hoarding erodes the advance notice intended for regulators, 
limits FDA's ability to intervene, and accelerates the very 
shortages these transparency initiatives are supposed to help 
prevent.
    In turn, purchasing in times of relative stability-whether 
through spot buys or contracts-is dominated by the strong 
incentive to choose the lowest-cost option. There is little to 
push hospitals or group purchasing organizations toward 
factoring in supply chain reliability or resilience, as most do 
not directly bear the costs when a disruption occurs. While 
there are tools and frameworks available to inform more 
resilience-focused procurement, hospitals have options but 
typically lack a meaningful reason to use them, absent clear 
financial rewards or contractual requirements.
    Policymakers would be wise not to fuel early warning 
systems for hospitals but to support supply chain reliability 
efforts in two ways: by supporting the related transparency 
efforts and by creating economic incentives.
    Policymakers can promote supply chain reliability in drug 
procurement by ensuring purchasers have access to meaningful, 
actionable information. Changes to current reporting 
requirements-such as requiring suppliers to specify not only 
who a drug is "manufactured for" but also who it is 
"manufactured by"-would make it far easier to track products to 
facilities that do not have a good compliance record. 
Supporting FDA's Quality Management Maturity (QMM) initiative 
is another foundational step, as public disclosure of QMM 
ratings would highlight manufacturers that invest in robust 
quality and operational practices, allowing buyers to consider 
reliability and performance in addition to price during 
contract negotiations.
    Policymakers should complement transparency efforts by 
pursuing payment and contracting policies that create 
meaningful economic incentives for hospitals and manufacturers 
to prioritize supply chain reliability. Current proposals-such 
as those from the Senate Finance Committee and HHS-would 
authorize financial rewards or penalties based on a buyer's or 
supplier's record of ensuring supply continuity, product 
quality, or timely response during shortages. By tying payment 
rates directly to reliable performance-or imposing 
disincentives for repeated supply failures-these initiatives 
aim to move the market beyond cost alone, encouraging long-term 
investments in resilience throughout the supply chain.

    Question:

    In your research you recommend a broad strategy when it 
comes to deciding which drug supply chain resiliency efforts to 
prioritize and support. More specifically, you recommend that 
the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response 
shift from a fixed list of essential drugs toward a longer list 
that stratifies drugs by how critical they are, their reach, 
and how vulnerable they are to disruption.
    Could you say more about how this longer, stratified list 
would better enable the federal government to support 
resilience efforts?

    Response:

    When it comes to supporting drug supply chain resilience 
efforts, setting priorities is important because of the scale 
and complexity of the drug supply chain. There are well over 
2,000 approved prescription drugs, spanning a large array of 
ingredients, manufacturing technologies, and production sites 
that collectively produced 187 billion tablets and capsules for 
American patients in 2024, not counting other dosage forms. The 
lack of economic incentives in the market coupled with the 
magnitude of what it would take to secure all drug supply 
chains requires that the government prioritizes where to 
engage.
    Prioritization is not only needed but possible because not 
all drugs are equally important. For example, some drugs are 
lifesaving in emergencies, such as epinephrine auto-injectors 
for severe allergic reactions or insulin for patients with type 
1 diabetes. Others, like certain chemotherapy agents or 
antibiotics, are critical for treating serious infections and 
cancers. Drugs for chronic conditions, such as 
antihypertensives and statins, affect large patient populations 
but interruptions are not generally life threatening, 
especially in the short term.
    U.S. government prioritization began with the FDA's list, 
created under a 2020 Executive Order, which identified over 220 
drugs and medical countermeasures most needed for immediate and 
life-saving medical use in hospitals. The Administration for 
Strategic Preparedness and Response (ASPR) subsequently 
narrowed this to 86 drugs, focusing more tightly on those 
deemed essential for acute care. Most recently, at the 
direction of the administration, ASPR further narrowed the 
target to about 26 drugs, selecting those for strategic 
stockpiling initiatives.
    Budget and time constraints have made this narrowing 
process unavoidable. With limited new funds appropriated by 
Congress for comprehensive supply chain resilience, the 
administration's current efforts are focused on building and 
maintaining a six-month supply of active pharmaceutical 
ingredients (APIs) for this small subset of drugs. If 
policymakers pursue costlier or more complex resilience 
strategies such as supporting new domestic manufacturing of API 
and all its inputs, not even all 26 may be covered, and 
prioritization within this short list would become necessary 
under a limited budget.
    A broader, stratified list would give policymakers 
flexibility to adjust investments as resources change. If 
Congress allocates additional funds, efforts could expand 
without reworking the prioritization framework. Such a list 
would guide readiness planning, clarify what additional money 
could achieve, and allow for a quick response as budget 
realities evolve.
    In practice, criticality and reach remain fairly stable for 
most products unless major therapeutic advances occur; 
vulnerability can change quickly. Initial reviews should focus 
on identifying drugs with the greatest health impact and reach. 
Detailed, regularly updated vulnerability assessments can then 
be reserved for a larger list of higher-priority drugs, 
concentrating resources where they matter most and avoiding 
exhaustive analysis of less critical products.
    To build a practical, ranked drug framework, it is also 
essential to factor in resilience-building cost and capacity 
constraints. The main cost drivers are often tied not to the 
price of the drug itself, but to the logistics of production-
such as the potency of the active pharmaceutical ingredient 
(affecting how much can be handled in existing facilities if 
capacity is limited) and the specialization required of 
manufacturing processes. These realities can force tradeoffs, 
requiring policymakers to choose between covering more drugs 
that fit within common, flexible plant capacity, or 
prioritizing medicines that do not demand highly specialized 
production setups and supply chains.

    Question:

    Your work highlights why drug manufacturers outsource 
chemical synthesis for drug manufacturing to China. Chemical 
synthesis can create toxic materials and could be quite harmful 
to the environment. You recommend that the U.S. fund chemical 
industrial parks as part of onshoring efforts.
    Could you say more about how funding domestic industrial 
parks could help to reduce American reliance on chemicals 
synthesized in China?

    Response:

    Efforts to derisk pharmaceutical supply chains from China 
require developing alternative sources for critical chemical 
inputs. Diversification does not necessarily mean full 
onshoring; establishing production capacity in allied, cost-
competitive countries can often achieve greater efficiency 
while mitigating geopolitical risk. However, for strategically 
sensitive or high-risk materials, selective onshoring can 
enhance national resilience.
    An important part of derisking supply chains from China is 
at the earliest, unregulated steps: key starting materials, 
intermediates, and auxiliary chemicals like reagents and 
solvents used in synthesis. This is where U.S. drug supply 
chain exposure is the greatest.
    The reliance is driven by Chinese firms' strong cost 
advantage through significant economies of scale coupled with 
lower labor, energy, and transportation costs. Historically, a 
lax regulatory framework allowed Chinese producers to operate 
with higher environmental and workplace risks than Western and 
Indian competitors, enabling their cost advantage. Following 
the Beijing Olympics, China began to reckon with environmental 
pollution and began raising standards and investing in greener 
manufacturing methods.
    The question is then, how should the U.S. respond if it 
chooses to onshore chemical manufacturing. Environmental 
deregulation alone will not succeed in shifting production to 
America because China will continue to hold an insurmountable 
cost advantage driven by lower energy, lower labor, and deep 
economies of scale. In fact, a race to the bottom on 
environmental standards would require the U.S. to set 
regulations lower than even India and China are willing to 
accept-countries that have already rejected the dirtiest 
manufacturing practices as economically and socially 
unsustainable.
    The future of chemical manufacturing lies in advanced green 
chemistry technologies that represent the next generation of 
global competitive advantage. These approaches are more 
efficient, create higher value-added products, and generate 
more skilled, higher-paying jobs than legacy chemical 
processes.
    Chemical industrial parks offer a more sustainable and 
scalable alternative to traditional one-company-at-a-time 
funding. By co-locating multiple manufacturers within shared 
infrastructure-centralized wastewater treatment, utilities, 
analytical testing facilities, and logistics-these parks 
significantly lower the per-unit overhead for each producer. 
This model is widely used in Europe, India, and certain U.S. 
states.
    Parks also create resilience: if one tenant exits, another 
can step in using the same infrastructure, protecting the 
government's investment and maintaining supply continuity. For 
policymakers working within budget constraints, industrial 
parks provide a mechanism to support multiple products and 
processes simultaneously, rather than betting on individual 
companies or isolated facilities.
    Centralized environmental controls-shared wastewater 
treatment plants equipped to handle toxic intermediates, air 
quality monitoring, and hazardous waste management-enable cost-
efficient pollution control far more effective than individual 
facilities can achieve. This allows domestic chemical 
production to meet U.S. environmental standards without 
imposing prohibitive costs on each manufacturer, reversing the 
historical trend of exporting pollution alongside production.

                        Senator Raphael Warnock

    Question:

    Rural health providers in Georgia rely on access to 
affordable drugs to treat patients, including older Americans. 
Due to financial vulnerability, rural providers have limited 
capacity to build a stockpile of drugs in preparation for 
supply shortages.
    How can Congress work to ensure rural hospitals and clinics 
can provide affordable and safe drugs to seniors in times of a 
drug shortage crisis?
    What kind of policy changes would incentivize domestic drug 
suppliers to develop generic drugs and improve aging rural 
populations' access to prescription drugs?

    Response:

    It is indeed the case that rural providers, especially 
those not part of a large health system, have severely limited 
ability to withstand supply disruptions. This stems partly from 
scale: they often lack staff dedicated to supply chain 
management, operate on thin financial margins that leave little 
room for inventory investment, and cannot leverage the 
purchasing power of larger systems. Independent rural 
facilities face a particularly acute challenge: unlike small 
hospitals within integrated systems that can at least access 
their parent organization's negotiating leverage and shared 
contracts, truly independent rural providers must navigate 
procurement entirely on their own.
    A 2023 STAT article illustrated this dynamic during the 
national shortage of carboplatin and cisplatin. Large health 
systems weathered the disruption easily, using their purchasing 
power and strong supplier relationships to stockpile supplies. 
Small, often rural, independent oncology clinics could not-they 
lacked these advantages and were sidelined by allocation 
systems favoring historical bulk orders. Many small clinics had 
to ration care, send patients to distant centers, or delay 
lifesaving treatment altogether, intensifying distress and 
risking poorer outcomes for vulnerable populations. The 
shortage exposed systemic flaws in drug procurement practices 
and underscored the urgent need for reforms to ensure more 
equitable access to essential drugs.
    Analytics and data systems play a major role in the 
disparities seen during chemotherapy drug shortages because 
large hospital systems typically have sophisticated analytics 
tools that allow them to monitor drug inventory, predict 
shortages, and swiftly respond by stockpiling or reallocating 
supplies across their networks. These systems provide 
actionable data on usage rates, inventory levels, and shortage 
signals, enabling proactive strategies like early purchasing or 
redistribution before official shortage notifications are 
issued. In contrast, small independent clinics often lack 
access to such analytics and automation, making it difficult 
for them to anticipate shortages or compete for limited supply-
further widening the gap in access during crises like the 
carboplatin and cisplatin shortage.
    Expanding the use of advanced analytics with small 
providers has the potential to help these providers better 
anticipate drug shortages, optimize inventory, and negotiate 
more effectively with suppliers, reducing vulnerability during 
supply chain disruptions. However, the cost, technical 
complexity, and need for specialized staff pose significant 
obstacles. Many small clinics operate with tight budgets and 
limited personnel, making it difficult to adopt and maintain 
sophisticated data systems even if the technology itself is 
available. They will always be behind the curve and therefore 
last in line.
    For most small and rural clinics, greater resilience may 
come from direct preparedness strategies, such as regional 
stockpiling programs, collaborative purchasing efforts, and 
supportive policy reforms that redistribute essential drugs 
during crises.
    One such recent effort was CMS establishing a separate 
payment system for small independent facilities, many of them 
rural, to help them create and maintain a buffer inventory of 
essential medicines. This authority is based on the same legal 
mechanism used for N95 mask stockpiling during the pandemic. 
The program allows qualifying hospitals to receive targeted 
Medicare payments specifically for the costs of purchasing and 
storing a reserve supply of designated drugs, with eligibility 
focused on hospitals most likely to face financial and 
logistical barriers to stockpiling.
    However, this authority is limited by statutory language 
that restricts reimbursement to only "reasonable costs." The 
"reasonable costs" constraint ties reimbursement only to 
Medicare's share of a hospital's business, meaning that 
hospitals must maintain buffer inventory sufficient to serve 
their entire patient population-including Medicaid, uninsured, 
and commercially insured patients-but can only be reimbursed 
for the Medicare portion of those inventory costs. 
Additionally, the costs of tracking, monitoring, and reporting 
on buffer stock inventory are not reimbursed under the program. 
These limitations mean that the payments offered may not fully 
cover the financial and operational burdens of creating and 
maintaining a substantial buffer stock, limiting participation.
    To address these limitations, Congress should strengthen 
the existing CMS framework by amending the statutory authority 
that currently restricts reimbursement to "reasonable costs" 
tied only to Medicare's share of hospital business. 
Specifically, Congress should authorize CMS to provide full 
reimbursement for buffer stock costs regardless of payer mix, 
recognizing that hospitals must maintain inventory for all 
patients, not just Medicare beneficiaries.
    Additionally, the statute should be amended to support a 
fixed payment model rather than the current submit-a-bill 
approach, which would reduce administrative burden and make 
participation more attractive to resource-constrained rural 
hospitals. The fixed payment should also cover the costs of 
tracking, monitoring, and reporting on buffer stock inventory-
costs currently excluded from reimbursement.
    Congress and CMS can also influence how wholesalers 
allocate scarce products during shortages. Wholesalers 
typically allocate based on historical purchasing patterns over 
a short lookback period (often 3-6 months), which 
systematically disadvantages small rural providers with 
variable ordering patterns. A rural hospital that orders 100 
units of a critical drug every 12 months may receive zero 
allocation if the lookback period captures only the months 
between orders. Meanwhile, large integrated health systems have 
a significant advantage: they can bypass wholesalers entirely 
and purchase directly from manufacturers during shortages, 
securing supply outside the allocation system altogether-an 
option unavailable to small independent hospitals.
    To level the playing field, CMS could mandate that 
wholesalers use longer, smoothed lookback periods as a 
condition of participation in Medicare or Medicaid programs-for 
example, calculating allocations based on 12-24 month rolling 
averages rather than recent 3-6 month snapshots. Additionally, 
Congress could direct FDA or CMS to establish minimum fairness 
standards for allocation methodologies during shortages, 
similar to how other federal agencies regulate allocation of 
scarce resources. Finally, allocation formulas should be 
reformed to use objective metrics tied to patient population 
served, licensed bed capacity, or facility size, rather than 
pure historical purchasing volume.
    Beyond influencing allocation during shortages, Congress 
can also make the entire pharmaceutical supply chain more 
reliable by reducing the risk and frequency of supply 
disruptions themselves. Legislative actions may include 
requiring redundancy and diversification among manufacturers, 
strengthening federal oversight for manufacturing quality and 
inspections, incentivizing domestic production, and supporting 
proactive stockpiling at the national level. These measures 
would help prevent supply shocks from occurring and limit their 
scale, ensuring that small rural hospitals are not perpetually 
vulnerable to access disparities even when major disruptions 
occur.

    Question:

    Hurricane Helene shut down Baxter International's North 
Carolina facility and caused a nationwide intravenous (IV) 
fluid shortage. Hospitals across the country were forced to 
ration their IV fluids until the company restored its 
manufacturing capability. I sent a letter to the Food and Drug 
Administration and the Department of Health and Human Services 
leadership pushing them to provide relief during this crisis.
    How could Congress leverage technology like predictive 
analytics to strengthen the resilience of domestic drug supply 
chains in times of natural disasters?

    Response:

    Predictive analytics can be an invaluable tool for 
monitoring supply chains and anticipating shortages, but their 
use during a crisis-such as the IV fluid shortage following 
Hurricane Helene-can compound existing vulnerabilities. When 
predictive analytics signal an emerging scarcity, large health 
systems often respond by accelerating stockpiling or bulk 
purchasing, which can deplete inventory faster and outcompete 
smaller hospitals for limited resources. This dynamic can leave 
rural and independent providers even more exposed, intensifying 
the very shortages that technology is aiming to mitigate.
    Better, real-time tracking of saline usage at both 
inventory and patient levels would significantly improve a 
hospital system's ability to allocate scarce resources during a 
shortage. Saline and other IV fluids are FDA-approved drugs, 
yet many hospitals treat them as supplies rather than 
medications. This classification outside the pharmacy system 
means administrations and usage are often not barcode-scanned 
or tracked like medications, making it difficult for health 
systems to know where the product is being used or how much.
    To address this tracking problem, CMS could require health 
systems to reclassify and track IV fluids as FDA-approved drugs 
rather than allowing them to be handled outside pharmacies as 
untracked supplies. Enhanced analytics could identify which 
units or patients have the greatest clinical need, optimize 
distribution, and reduce waste or unnecessary stockpiling 
throughout the network.
    While real-time tracking and robust analytics enable 
smarter, more equitable allocation of supplies during a 
shortage, hospitals also need practical and systemic strategies 
to prepare for major disruptions. For high-volume products like 
saline, maintaining a buffer inventory is particularly 
challenging given the heavy usage, physical volume, and cost of 
storage. Hospitals must adopt additional safeguards and 
diversify their approaches beyond stockpiling to prepare for 
potential shortages.
    For hospitals, avoiding sole-source contracts is a key 
step. Reliance on a single supplier for saline or other 
essential fluids can dramatically widen the impact of any 
supply disruption, whereas maintaining relationships with 
multiple vendors lessens vulnerability-enabling continued 
provision of urgent services even during supply chain shocks. 
Recent shortages have exposed disparities based on with which 
manufacturer a hospital contracts. During the 2024 saline 
shortage following Hurricane Helene, hospitals contracting with 
Baxter received only 40-60% of normal allocations, while those 
using B. Braun experienced minimal disruption as B. Braun's 
facilities were unaffected.
    Manufacturers can help by investing in more flexible or 
'fungible' production systems that allow rapid pivots to 
different bag sizes or formulations as market demand and 
regulatory priorities shift. Facilities able to quickly change 
production lines or scale outputs for alternative product sizes 
improve overall supply chain resilience, reducing the risk and 
magnitude of shortages from specific disruptions. Encouraging 
manufacturers to adopt these adaptive capabilities can increase 
redundancy and responsiveness, ultimately protecting the entire 
healthcare system during crises.
    Congress and the administration can play vital roles in 
supporting alternative hospital preparedness strategies for 
saline shortages-using both regulatory "sticks" and financial 
"carrots." On the regulatory side, policymakers could 
strengthen antitrust enforcement and oversight to discourage 
anticompetitive practices, such as exclusive or sole-source 
contracts that undermine supply resilience and limit access 
during disruptions. On the incentive side, Congress could 
expand payment models or grant programs to encourage hospitals 
to diversify suppliers and invest in logistics for alternative 
sourcing.


      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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