[Senate Hearing 119-173]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 119-173

                    SHIFTING GEARS: ISSUES IMPACTING
         THE TRUCKING AND COMMERCIAL BUS INDUSTRIES IN THE U.S.

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                                HEARING

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                  SUBCOMMITTEE ON SURFACE TRANSPORTATION,
                     FREIGHT, PIPELINES, AND SAFETY

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                         COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE,
                      SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                             JULY 22, 2025

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       SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                       TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             MARIA CANTWELL, Washington, 
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi                Ranking
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                  BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee          GARY PETERS, Michigan
TODD YOUNG, Indiana                  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
TED BUDD, North Carolina             TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri               JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JOHN CURTIS, Utah                    BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio                  JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
TIM SHEEHY, Montana                  JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia  ANDY KIM, New Jersey
CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming              LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
                 Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
           Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
                     Liam McKenna, General Counsel
                   Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
                 Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
                     Jonathan Hale, General Counsel
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 SUBCOMMITTEE ON SURFACE TRANSPORTATION, FREIGHT, PIPELINES, AND SAFETY

TODD YOUNG, Indiana, Chairman        GARY PETERS, Michigan, Ranking
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi            BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri               BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio                  ANDY KIM, New Jersey
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia
                           
                           
                           C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on July 22, 2025....................................     1
Statement of Senator Young.......................................     1
Statement of Senator Peters......................................     2
Statement of Senator Cantwell....................................     4
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................    45
Statement of Senator Moreno......................................    48
Statement of Senator Lujan.......................................    51
Statement of Senator Fischer.....................................    53
Statement of Senator Klobuchar...................................    56
Statement of Senator Markey......................................    58
    Letter dated July 22, 2025 to Hon. Todd Young and Hon. Gary 
      Peters from Zach Cahalan, Executive Director, Truck Safety 
      Coalition (TSC)............................................    60

                               Witnesses

Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive Officer, American 
  Trucking Associations..........................................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................     7
Lewie Pugh, Executive Vice President, Owner-Operator Independent 
  Drivers Association............................................    18
    Prepared statement...........................................    19
Fred C. Ferguson, President and Chief Executive Officer, American 
  Bus Association................................................    30
    Prepared statement...........................................    32
Sean M. O'Brien, General President, International Brotherhood of 
  Teamsters......................................................    34
    Prepared statement...........................................    36

                                Appendix

Letter dated July 21, 2025 to Hon. Todd Young and Hon. Gary 
  Peters from Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety..............    65
Anne C. Reinke, President and CEO, Intermodal Association of 
  North America (IANA), prepared statement.......................    70
Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA), prepared statement....    72
Response to written questions submitted to Chris Spear by:
    Hon. Todd Young..............................................    80
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    82
    Hon. Amy Klobuchar...........................................    84
    Hon. Tammy Duckworth.........................................    85
    Hon. Ben Ray Lujan...........................................    85
Response to written questions submitted to Lewie Pugh by:
    Hon. Roger Wicker............................................    87
    Hon. Todd Young..............................................    87
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    88
    Hon. Tammy Duckworth.........................................    89
    Hon. Ben Ray Lujan...........................................    90
Response to written questions submitted to Fred C. Ferguson by:
    Hon. Todd Young..............................................    90
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    91
    Hon. Tammy Duckworth.........................................    92
    Hon. Ben Ray Lujan...........................................    94
Response to written questions submitted to Sean M. O'Brien by:
    Hon. Roger Wicker............................................    94
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    95
    Hon. Tammy Duckworth.........................................    96

 
                    SHIFTING GEARS: ISSUES IMPACTING
         THE TRUCKING AND COMMERCIAL BUS INDUSTRIES IN THE U.S.

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                         TUESDAY, JULY 22, 2025

                               U.S. Senate,
  Subcommittee on Surface Transportation, Freight, 
                             Pipelines, and Safety,
        Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in 
room SR-253, Senate Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Todd 
Young, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Young [presiding], Cruz, Fischer, Moreno, 
Peters, Cantwell, Klobuchar, Markey, and Lujan.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TODD YOUNG, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM INDIANA

    Senator Young. Good morning, everyone. As we look forward 
to a timely opportunity to review the current landscape of 
these industries and to inform our work on this committee as we 
draft legislation.
    Over the past few hearings I have made it a priority to 
examine where within our Federal ecosystem outdated or 
unnecessary rules exist, if there are any, rules that don't 
impact the safety of our roads, or that can be costly for those 
in the private sector looking to increase safety, improve 
efficiency, and innovate to create a more robust and effective 
industry that helps power our economy.
    For instance, last week during our nomination hearing of 
Mr. Barrs to serve as administrator of the Agency, I commented 
on FMCSA rules, which would require truck drivers to manually 
place warning triangles behind a vehicle when it is stopped or 
pulled over. In the most severe circumstances, this could 
require drivers to exit their vehicles in severe weather when 
visibility might be poor, and walk along busy highways next to 
oncoming traffic.
    I think we all understand the benefit of informing other 
drivers of stopped vehicles on the shoulder of the road, but if 
there are avenues that could allow for industry to provide the 
same or greater level of efficacy while increasing safety, then 
I believe Congress should remove bureaucratic red tape 
prohibiting this innovation.
    This is just one example where I think we can improve upon 
our rules and regulations to give industry more flexibility to 
innovate and voluntarily deploy different technologies and 
applications to advance the safety of our roads. I hope this 
hearing could help highlight additional opportunities as we 
work on this Surface Transportation Reauthorization.
    Our reauthorization work also provides a pathway to 
accomplish common-sense policy solutions to address issues 
crippling our transportation network. Earlier this Congress, I 
led a hearing in this subcommittee examining the drastic rise 
of cargo theft and how it hurts businesses, our supply chains, 
and the American people.
    That hearing highlighted the complexity of freight fraud, 
and cargo theft, and the need for Congress to take a 
comprehensive approach to stopping these criminals. Since that 
hearing, I have learned of the need to update regulations, 
implement safeguards for consumers and businesses, ensure our 
law enforcement agencies are well equipped and prepared to 
respond to any wrongdoing, and encourage or provide for greater 
cross-government collaboration.
    This hearing provides an opportunity to further these 
conversations and to hear from industry leaders representing 
voices afflicted by the freight fraud and how we can work to 
address these issues together.
    I know this is of the utmost importance to the Chairman of 
the Full Committee, Senator Cruz, as well as our colleagues on 
the Democratic side of the aisle, and I stand ready to work 
with them to address this national and economic crisis.
    Last, I believe for our commercial trucking and bus 
industries, I believe that they are the safest, most effective 
and--among the most effective industries we have, and we must 
also focus on improving our roadway infrastructure so that they 
continue to be so.
    This includes maintaining road quality and focusing Federal 
funding to leverage state, local, and private dollars for 
infrastructure projects that will vastly improve roadway 
safety. My home state of Indiana is home to over 97,000 miles 
of public roadways. And as the crossroads of America, Hoosiers 
rely heavily on our transportation infrastructure.
    In Evansville, Indiana, I have been working hard for years 
to secure Federal funding for the I-69 Ohio River Crossing 
Project to fill a critical final gap in the Nation's 
transportation infrastructure, as it links I-69 between 
Kentucky and Indiana over the Ohio River.
    This is the type of project which will mitigate traffic 
congestion, improve overall roadway safety, and significantly 
leverage non-Federal dollars, the type of project where Federal 
infrastructure dollars should be focused.
    We have an experienced panel here with leaders representing 
voices across the commercial trucking and bus industries. So I 
thank all of you for your willingness to testify here today and 
for your contributions to our dialogue.
    I now recognize Ranking Member Peters for any opening 
remarks he might have.

                STATEMENT OF HON. GARY PETERS, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN

    Senator Peters. Thank you, Chairman Young, and thank you to 
our esteemed witnesses for being here with us here today.
    Today we will be hearing from the trucking and motor coach 
industries and workforce about the day-to-day challenges they 
face, and how Congress can come together to hopefully address 
them. Our nation's truck drivers are the backbone of our 
economy. These frontline workers spend long hours, often away 
from their families, at all times of day and night transporting 
goods across the country to America's communities.
    In fact, in Michigan, over 80 percent of our communities 
depend exclusively on trucks to move their goods, especially in 
those rural, hard-to-reach corners of our state. It is not an 
exaggeration to say that the trucking industry touches every 
American's daily life each and every day. That is especially 
true for Americans who have made trucking their career. There 
are nearly 250,000 trucking jobs in Michigan alone and making 
up one in fifteen jobs throughout my state.
    From long- and short-haul drivers, to mechanics, 
dispatchers, logistics coordinators, these jobs provide key 
opportunities for Michiganders. And I am committed to making 
sure that these jobs live up to their promise for Michiganders 
by providing fair wages, health care, and retirement benefits.
    And that is why I am proud to have one of the foremost 
leaders of that fight here to testify today, Teamsters' 
President, Sean O'Brien. Mr. O'Brien and members of this panel 
know today very well, the single most important factor in 
success of our truck drivers, and this industry, as well as for 
road users across the country, is safety.
    And I believe this committee must prioritize safety in the 
next Surface Transportation Reauthorization Bill for both 
truckers and those who share the road with. From the deployment 
of advanced safety technologies, and driver assistance systems, 
to investing in safer streets, stronger bridges, tackling truck 
parking issues, and defending the drivers access to rest, and 
bathrooms, and to addressing both the freight fraud and theft 
as well.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today on how 
they think Congress and the Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration can tackle these issues, and how we can ensure 
the FMCSA follows through on effective enforcement. I know the 
FMCSA will need resources and direction from Congress to do 
this, and I hope we can work across the aisle to make it 
happen.
    And finally, I want to acknowledge that today's trucking 
industry, as well as all freight and multimodal industries, is 
facing incredibly challenging economic environment with this 
administration's chaotic approach to tariffs. This doesn't just 
impact truckers and consumers, changing rules, raising prices, 
and economic uncertainty, impacts the manufacturers who build 
the trucks, that move our goods and keep our drivers safe.
    In Michigan, our robust commercial vehicle manufacturing 
supply chain relies on cross-border trade with Canada and with 
a global supply chain. Many of these businesses have been 
forced to consider laying off workers or pausing investments 
due to a lack of certainty created by constantly shifting 
tariff policies.
    We can and should pursue policies to create commercial 
trucking manufacturing jobs here at home. But continued chaos 
will only serve to harm U.S. manufacturers, consumers, and our 
intermodal freight system.
    I am thoroughly looking forward to learning more about the 
challenges in this space as well from each of our panelists 
today. Thank you again for our witnesses for being here today 
and for your contributions to this industry that critically 
support the American economy.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Young. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    Senator Cantwell, you are recognized.

               STATEMENT OF HON. MARIA CANTWELL, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON

    Senator Cantwell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
you and Senator Peters for holding this important hearing. It 
is a very important issue, in general, our transportation 
network, and certainly moving forward on a Service 
Transportation Bill.
    In Washington, our state, our economy runs on ports, and 
runs on trade, and relies on the efficient movement of those 
goods, the trucks carrying a majority of freight in our state, 
moving nearly $400 billion worth of goods every year. So the 
industry's contribution to our economy cannot be 
underestimated.
    We must emphasize the importance, as my colleague from 
Michigan just did, on the safety of commercial vehicles. Last 
year, we had 54 fatal accidents in the State of Washington 
involving large trucks. These incidents have devastating 
impacts on the families and the communities.
    And just this past weekend, we saw a serious one with 
environmental consequences, a fuel truck crashed off Highway 
101, spilling 3,000 gallons of diesel gasoline, jeopardizing 
tap water for 19,000 people, and damaging vulnerable salmon 
habitat. So as we consider the Surface Transportation Act, yes, 
safety must be a priority for that.
    We know the cost of increase of transportation goods are 
being felt by consumers. My colleague just mentioned that as 
well. Delays due to congestion add more than a hundred billion 
dollars to the cost of moving goods every year. And that is why 
in the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill, I made sure everybody 
knew: Freight can't wait. If we don't have freight moving, we 
lose our competitiveness as a nation.
    And that is why the Mega Program, the INFRA Program, and 
the Ports Grant program are all about eliminating the 
bottlenecks that happen in transportation that mean we can't 
get our product to market in a timely fashion. 34,000 truck 
drivers in the State of Washington are essential to that 
freight network and the amount of freight moved by trucks 
across our state is expected to increase in the next 20 years.
    So we must ensure that drivers have fair wages, access to 
safe resting places, and high quality training programs. And in 
addition, we have got to get rid of the high cost of tariffs 
and the impact that they are having on our economy. Proposed 
tariffs on trucks and truck parts could increase the cost of a 
new truck by $35,000. And on top of that, fluctuations in 
freight volumes as business scrambled to respond to on-again, 
off-again policies have also caused uncertainty for truck 
drivers.
    Last month, the Port of Seattle and Tacoma reported that 
20--reported 20 percent fewer truck visits to the port compared 
to June the previous year. So we obviously are seeing the 
impact at our ports. So Congress must do everything we can to 
help in this effort.
    So thank you, Mr. Chairman, and look forward to working 
with you and the Ranking Member on these important Surface 
Transportation Acts, and will be back to ask questions after 
the witnesses. Thank you.
    Senator Young. Thank you, Senator Cantwell.
    We are going to dive right in. I would like to introduce 
our witnesses for today. Each of them has extensive knowledge 
about the truck and motor coach industries.
    Our first witness is Mr. Chris Spear, President and CEO of 
the American Trucking Associations, his own extensive 
experience in transportation and public policy, having held 
senior positions at Hyundai Motor Company, Honeywell 
International, and served as the Assistant Secretary of Labor 
for Policy, at the U.S. Department of Labor. Welcome, sir.
    Our second witness is Lewie Pugh, Executive Vice President 
of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association. Before 
joining OOIDA, Mr. Pugh was an owner operator for nearly 23 
years, and he earned the distinguished Million-Miles Safe 
Drivers Award. Welcome, sir.
    Our third witness today is Mr. Fred Ferguson, he is 
President and CEO of the American Bus Association. Mr. Ferguson 
also serves as the President of the National Bus Traffic 
Association, and the ABA Foundation. He has over 15 years of 
experience in public policy across the government, nonprofit, 
and private sectors. Welcome, sir.
    And then last, but not leastly, our final witness is Mr. 
Sean O'Brien. He is General President of the International 
Brotherhood of Teamsters. Mr. O'Brien is a fourth-generation 
Teamster, a union that represents over one million workers 
across the United States of America and Canada. It is a 
privilege to have you here, sir. Welcome.
    So we will now recognize Mr. Spear to deliver his opening 
statement. Mr. Spear, you are recognized for 5 minutes.

    STATEMENT OF CHRIS SPEAR, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
            OFFICER, AMERICAN TRUCKING ASSOCIATIONS

    Mr. Spear. Thank you, Chairman Young, Ranking Member 
Peters, and Members of the Subcommittee. I want to thank you 
for the opportunity to testify today on behalf of the American 
Trucking Associations.
    For over 90 years, ATA has represented an industry that 
today employs 8.5 million of the hardest working men and women 
in the country. We appreciate your commitment to safety. Every 
American benefits from a modern, safe, and efficient 
transportation network. It is even more essential to the three 
and a half million truck drivers who are indispensable to our 
way of life. Roads and bridges are their shop floor.
    ATA was among the first to support passage of the landmark 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, which boosted highway funding by 
38 percent. Unfortunately, rising construction costs and red 
tape have eroded the impact of Federal grants. One consequence 
is record-high congestion now costing our economy more than 
$109 billion, the equivalent of 435,000 truck drivers sitting 
idle for an entire year.
    The next infrastructure bill has got to, not only alleviate 
those bottlenecks, but prioritize other critical projects like 
truck parking. There is currently one parking space for every 
11 truckers. Expanding parking access is not only the right 
thing to do for road safety, it is the bare minimum we owe our 
drivers, particularly women drivers who deserve a secure, well-
lit place to rest.
    Trucking offers a pathway to rewarding careers. That was 
the motivation behind the Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot 
Program established by Chairman Young, and Full Committee 
Ranking Member Cantwell, which allow qualified 18-, 19-, and 
20-year-olds to operate safely in interstate commerce. Every 
member of this panel should be invested in creating pathways 
for 18 to 20-year-olds to operate safely in interstate commerce 
and to be able to access good paying jobs in the trucking 
industry.
    However, self-serving, factless claims that there is no 
driver shortage undermine the serious work of this committee. 
Driver pay does not go up 19 percent during a freight recession 
unless there is a shortage of qualified drivers. You may also 
hear today about how the Biden-Su Independent Contractor Rule 
helps our Nation's 350,000 independent truckers.
    I encourage members of this committee to actually ask the 
independent contractors about that, because they are going to 
tell you that this rule takes away their freedom of choice to 
be their own boss and to grow their own business.
    The trucking industry goes to great lengths to keep 
roadways safe. Every year, motor carriers invest $14 billion in 
safety technologies and driver training, including 
apprenticeships. ATA is ready to partner with this subcommittee 
and the DOT on deploying proven technologies that focus 
drivers' awareness as well as mitigate and reduce crashes.
    Ground-breaking developments in the autonomous vehicle 
space hold future promise for improving safety while enhancing, 
not displacing, the invaluable role of truck drivers, our 
industry's greatest asset. The most important safety action we 
can take is ensuring that unsafe drivers do not get behind the 
wheel in the first place. That requires drivers being 
proficient in the English language, as well as proven drug 
testing protocols.
    As more states legalize recreational marijuana, and opioids 
plague our communities, Federal acceptance of both oral and 
hair testing are vital to keep unsafe drivers off the road.
    Another issue that should unite us is addressing the 
meteoric rise of cargo theft. This economic and national 
security threat has exploded in a few--in the last few years 
with annual losses now totaling a staggering $35 billion. To 
protect our supply chain and employees, we need legislation to 
combat fraud and empower Federal law enforcement to take the 
lead. ATA testified 25 times before Congress, helping shape the 
current Highway Bill. Today is our seventh hearing in just 7 
months.
    We fully understand your responsibility is the safety 
title, arguably the most important title in the Highway Bill. 
This effort is transformational opportunity, it is not only 
going to help our industry, but the entire supply chain and our 
Nation's economy.
    Thank you again for your leadership and I look forward to 
answering all of your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Spear follows:]

   Prepared Statement of Chris Spear, President and Chief Executive 
                               Officer, 
                     American Trucking Associations
Introduction
    Chairman Young, Ranking Member Peters, and members of the 
Subcommittee, I am grateful for the opportunity to testify today on the 
key issues facing the trucking industry. I am the President & CEO of 
the American Trucking Associations (ATA), a 90-year-old federation and 
the largest national trade organization representing the 8.5 million 
men and women working in the trucking industry, including more than 3.5 
million professional truck drivers.
    As a 50-state federation that encompasses 37,000 motor carriers and 
suppliers, ATA proudly represents every sector of the industry. From 
less-than-truckload to truckload carriers, from agriculture and 
livestock transporters to auto haulers and household goods movers, and 
from large fleets to mom-and-pop one-truck operators, ATA serves as the 
single unified voice of the trucking industry.
    Trucking is the backbone of the Nation's economy, with more than 80 
percent of U.S. communities relying exclusively on trucking to meet 
their freight transportation needs. According to Federal data, heavy 
and tractor-trailer truck driver is a top-ten most common occupation in 
18 states.\1\ These truck drivers are the unsung heroes of our supply 
chain and keep the wheels of our economy turning. In 2023, they drove 
almost 330 billion miles--the equivalent of 13 million trips around the 
globe--to deliver roughly 11.4 billion tons of freight,\2\ 73 percent 
of the Nation's annual tonnage.\3\ Over the next decade, those drivers 
will be tasked with hauling an additional 2.7 billion tons of freight 
above current volumes.\4\
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    \1\ Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics. U.S. Department of 
Labor, Bureau of Labor Statistics. May 2024. https://www.bls.gov/oes/
current/oessrcst.htm
    \2\ American Trucking Trends 2025. American Trucking Associations, 
2025.
    \3\ Freight Transportation Forecast 2024 to 2035. American Trucking 
Associations, 2024.
    \4\ Ibid.
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    ATA was one of the first industry trade associations to endorse the 
bipartisan Senate bill that became the landmark 2021 Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA). We hope and trust that the 
collaboration that provided increased resources to counter years of 
neglect to our Nation's highways will continue with the next 
reauthorization even as current law expires months before a midterm 
election.
    IIJA represented a historic 38 percent increase in funding for 
roads and bridges, which are the shop floor for our Nation's truck 
drivers. Unfortunately, the impact of this historic investment was 
diminished by inflation, political distractions, and economic 
uncertainty over the past four years. Over the first nine months of 
Fiscal Year 2024, the government spent approximately $35 billion on 
bridges and highways, but after adjusting for higher construction 
costs, that's 24 percent less than the same period in the year before 
the IIJA was enacted.\5\ Some important programs were rolled out 
slowly, and with additional red tape beyond the requirements laid out 
in statute.
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    \5\ Rampell, Catherine, ``The legacy of Bidenomics: Maybe not much 
at all.'' Washington Post, 7 January 2025, https://
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/01/07/biden-economy-biden
omics-legacy-inflation/
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    Since the enactment of the IIJA, freight markets have remained 
stagnant while costs for motor carriers have increased. Analysis from 
the American Transportation Research Institute (ATRI) shows that, 
excluding fuel costs, marginal costs per mile for truck operations have 
risen to the highest recorded levels ($1.779 per mile on average) in 
the history of its annual Operational Costs of Trucking report,\6\ all 
while ATA's trucking activity report shows that for-hire truckload 
freight has declined 3 percent between December 2021 and May 2025.\7\ 
As we look towards the next surface transportation reauthorization, it 
is vitally important that we find ways to make investments and set 
policies that will empower trucking companies of all sizes to put 
skilled, well-trained drivers in newer, safer trucks on our freight 
corridors.
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    \6\ An Analysis of the Operational Costs of Trucking: 2025 Update. 
American Transportation Research Institute, July 2025.
    \7\ ATA Trucking Activity Report (TRAC). American Trucking 
Associations, 2025.
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    In a difficult environment, this Committee has found bipartisan 
consensus on issues important to the trucking industry, such as cutting 
red tape for supply chain workers to obtain valuable credentials 
through passage of the Transportation Security Screening Modernization 
Act last year. We are grateful that the Committee has already shined a 
light on the growing threat of cargo theft for our supply chains in its 
February hearing titled, ``Grand Theft Cargo: Examining the Costly 
Threat to Consumers and the U.S. Supply Chain,'' and advanced common-
sense bipartisan bills such as the Household Goods Shipping Consumer 
Protection Act and the Promoting Resilient Supply Chains Act.
    This hearing is a tremendous opportunity for the Committee to 
consider how to improve highway safety, recruit the next generation of 
truck drivers to fulfilling careers, protect supply chains from 
sophisticated and organized criminals, and ensure long-term American 
leadership in innovation and infrastructure. We commend you for 
bringing this panel together, and for your continued efforts to craft 
policies that will ensure the safe and efficient movement of our 
Nation's goods.
Opportunities to Increase Highway Safety
    Safety is a key focus and priority for the trucking industry. We 
welcomed IIJA investments in Federal roadway safety programs, and the 
industry welcomes partnerships with agencies and technology innovators 
that will make our highways safer. Trucking companies make major 
investments every day in proven safety technologies for their fleets: 
ATA's 2022 Safety Spend Survey showed that the industry invested $14 
billion annually in safety, an increase of over 40 percent above the 
preceding 2015 survey.\8\ Federal regulatory reforms supported by ATA 
have reduced both the number of truck-involved crashes and the crash 
rate over the past several decades. However, more must be done to 
improve highway safety for all motorists. ATA looks forward to 
supporting workable requirements to deploy proven safety technologies, 
improve drug testing to meaningfully curb the rise of impaired driving, 
ensure compliance with Federal training requirements, and enforce 
driver qualification requirements to make roadways safer for all road 
users.
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    \8\ 2022 ATA Safety Spend Survey. American Trucking Associations, 
2023. https://www
.trucking.org/news-insights/new-study-underlines-trucking-industrys-
commitment-safety.
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Clear Requirements for Proven Safety Technologies
    Congress and the trucking industry need to ensure that the safety 
technologies on commercial vehicles enhance drivers' attention and 
alertness while on the road. One technology that needs immediate 
attention is Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB). AEB, and the suite of 
tools that support it, is a prime example of a proven safety technology 
that can reduce and mitigate crashes. Because AEB is already a mature 
and well adopted safety technology in the heavy-duty sector, Congress 
directed the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) in 2021 to mandate 
AEB on all new heavy-duty trucks, ensuring the proliferation of this 
critical safety tool. This is because AEB technology had been available 
for more than 10 years in the heavy-duty sector at that point with 
clearly demonstrated benefits. It is worth noting that this technology 
has gone through many iterations over these 10+ years to improve its 
effectiveness, integration, and driver experience based on industry 
feedback.
    Last year, DOT proposed an AEB mandate for industry segments 
outside of heavy-duty, where the technology is still under development 
and has not been widely adopted. This exceeded Congressional intent to 
focus on heavy-duty where the technology is mature. AEB is not widely 
available in medium-duty and in particular vocational vehicle segments. 
New developments for different vehicle configurations, braking 
technologies, and sensor placements would be required to deploy AEB in 
these segments in the proposed timeframe. While industry is currently 
working on these issues, the systems are not yet developed at the same 
level of effectiveness, integration, and driver experience as heavy-
duty. The mandate also proposed overly aggressive braking standards 
that effectively treat AEB as a replacement for the driver, a standard 
for which AEB is not designed. AEB and the suite of tools around it 
have always been designed as a driver assistance technology. AEB is 
designed specifically to help the driver respond more effectively, buy 
time for the driver to avoid hazards, and potentially mitigate crashes 
if the driver cannot respond in time. Industry has spent immense time 
and effort building driver trust in this technology and wants to ensure 
the technology is rolled out appropriately and over a realistic 
timeframe--when it is truly ready--in order to maintain that trust. ATA 
urges this Subcommittee to provide oversight of DOT on this matter to 
ensure that regulation focuses on heavy-duty AEB, that the DOT applies 
performance requirements that represent the design intent of the 
technology, and that DOT works with industry to overcome barriers to 
implementation. Industry is eager to work with the DOT on AEB beyond 
the heavy-duty sector, but these efforts should be separate so as not 
to delay a rule in heavy-duty which could save lives in the near term.
Testing for Drug Use
    Ensuring that our roads are free from drivers under the influence 
of controlled substances is a top priority for the trucking industry. 
Since the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) Drug and 
Alcohol Clearinghouse launched in 2020, more than 308,000 positive drug 
tests among commercial motor vehicle drivers have been recorded, 
highlighting a persistent and alarming trend in substance use that 
threatens the safety of our Nation's highways.\9\ Of these positive 
drug tests, marijuana remains the leading drug violation among drivers, 
accounting for roughly 60 percent of positive tests annually--a 
troubling statistic that underscores its widespread impact on highway 
safety.
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    \9\ Drug & Alcohol Clearinghouse: March 2025 Monthly Summary 
Report. U.S. Department of Transportation, Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration, March 2025.
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    Last year, Attorney General Merrick Garland moved to reschedule 
marijuana from a Schedule I to a Schedule III substance, raising 
serious concerns about the unintended consequences for highway safety. 
Such a move would have weakened zero-tolerance policies, compromised a 
robust Federal drug testing program currently in place for safety-
sensitive professions, significantly complicated enforcement, and 
potentially increased marijuana use among all drivers. Given the 
absence of a validated standard for measuring marijuana impairment and 
the fact that it already accounts for most drug violations in the FMCSA 
Clearinghouse, rescheduling marijuana would jeopardize the safety of 
millions of road users. This Subcommittee must ensure that effective 
and robust drug testing protocols for safety-sensitive occupations 
remain intact, and that transportation safety is prioritized regardless 
of the legal status of marijuana at the Federal level.
    Additionally, employers need to be equipped with the most 
effective, reliable tools for ensuring a drug-free driving workforce. 
The 2015 FAST Act required the Department of Health and Human Services 
(HHS) to issue guidelines for hair testing--a proven alternative drug 
testing method that allows for a longer detection window than 
traditional urinalysis and yields more comprehensive results. However, 
a decade later, HHS has yet to finalize the guidance in accordance with 
Congress' original intent, leaving DOT without the means to accept and 
recognize hair testing results in its Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse. 
ATA supports efforts like H.R. 4320, which would allow positive hair 
testing results to be added to the Clearinghouse and give employers 
another tool to ensure that unsafe drivers are not put behind the 
wheel. Dereliction of duty by HHS has had disastrous consequences for 
highway safety: the absence of guidance means that nothing prevents a 
driver who tests positive on a hair test from legally operating a truck 
on our Nation's highways today. Another critical tool, oral fluids 
testing, remains in regulatory limbo awaiting Federal finalization of 
laboratory certifications before it can be used by employers in post-
accident and roadside contexts. Federal acceptance of both oral fluids 
and hair testing as independent, alternative testing methods would 
allow employers to identify a greater number of safety-sensitive 
employees who violate Federal drug laws and keep these unsafe drivers 
off the road. We urge this Subcommittee to hold HHS accountable and 
require the agency to swiftly complete the regulatory steps necessary 
to ensure these critical alternative testing methods are made available 
to employers, as well as investigate and identify potential regulatory 
barriers that may be adding to ongoing delays.
Distracted Driving
    Addressing distracted driving among all roadway users--commercial 
drivers and passenger vehicle drivers--is vitally important to ATA and 
its members. ATA recognizes distracted driving--whether manual, visual, 
cognitive, or emotional--as a form of impaired driving. Any activity 
that diverts a driver's attention threatens roadway and industry safety 
and endangers all road users. Far too often, distraction is the cause 
of tragedy on our Nation's roadways. According to NHTSA, in 2022, 
distraction was a causal factor in 8 percent of fatal crashes and 12 
percent of injury crashes; however, those figures are likely much 
higher as distraction goes largely underreported in official statistics 
due to drivers failing to admit to being distracted, difficulty for law 
enforcement to detect distraction, and inconsistent crash reporting.
    ATA is committed to working with this Subcommittee and relevant 
stakeholders--law enforcement, Federal and state regulators and 
legislators, safety advocates, and drivers--to tackle this epidemic. 
This begins with effective and robust enforcement of existing handsfree 
and distraction laws. ATA supports federal, state, and local laws 
prohibiting handheld wireless device use while driving, emphasizing 
truly hands-free operation. These laws and policies should apply to and 
be strictly enforced among all motorists, not just commercial drivers, 
to promote safer roads. Because commercial drivers rely on essential 
in-cab technologies, lawmakers must consider how best to integrate the 
safe use of these vital tools while minimizing visual-manual 
interaction and distraction and allow safe use of hands-free 
technologies such as voice-activated dialing or voice-mail retrieval.
    ATA is also committed to prioritizing awareness, enforcement, and 
technology-driven solutions that reduce distracted driving and improve 
roadway safety for all. We believe safety campaigns that highlight the 
grave consequences of distracted driving can lead to greater awareness 
and behavioral changes that ultimately lead to cultural shifts in how 
we think about and accept risky driving behaviors. We recognize that 
these shifts take time and continuous exposure to safety messaging, 
much like the cultural shift towards universal seatbelt use in the 
1990s. Thus, it is critical that this Subcommittee ensures critical DOT 
funding and other resources dedicated to distracted driving campaigns 
and awareness efforts remain intact and, if possible, amplified.
Rigorous Driver Training Standards
    We also urge the Subcommittee to support efforts to ensure a 
qualified and well-trained workforce and reject ongoing efforts to 
exempt training requirements for new drivers. ATA has long supported 
the Entry Level Driver Training (ELDT) rule, which was implemented 
three years ago. Ensuring that entry-level drivers receive appropriate 
instruction from a consistent, industry-wide curriculum is vital to 
improving safety on our Nation's highways. While ELDT has received 
nearly universal support from the industry, ATA is aware that the 
spread of misinformation led to efforts to undermine the program and 
exempt certain individuals from this standardized training curriculum. 
We urge this Subcommittee to uphold its commitment to rigorous training 
standards for both new and veteran drivers, ensuring the highest level 
of safety on our Nation's roads.
    In addition to maintaining the integrity of ELDT requirements, 
FMCSA must continue its work to improve oversight of its Training 
Provider Registry (TPR). ATA strongly supports efforts to root out 
fraudulent or substandard training providers and ensure that only 
legitimate, high-quality ELDT-compliant programs are listed on the TPR. 
These efforts must include increased auditing, enforcement actions, and 
data validation to prevent drivers from accessing incomplete or 
inadequate training and testing. Without these safeguards, more 
unqualified drivers would be on our Nation's highways--a safety risk 
our Nation simply can't afford. ATA and our industry partners oppose 
unqualified training providers that allow individuals to obtain a 
commercial driver's license (CDL) simply by paying a fee, effectively 
circumventing the structured curriculum established by ELDT. While 
FMCSA has made progress in establishing tools for ELDT enforcement, 
until early June 2025, FMCSA's TPR website showed that only four 
training providers have been removed from the TPR since 2023. Federal, 
state, and industry stakeholders all recognize that these numbers are 
unacceptable given the much larger volume of fraud reports to the 
agency. Ensuring the quality of driver education is just as important 
as ensuring its consistency, and we commend FMCSA's recent efforts to 
close loopholes, remove bad actors from the TPR, and strengthen trust 
in the training pipeline by removing over 50 training providers from 
the registry in June. While some of these removals were involuntary or 
on an emergency basis (based on a provider failing to meet or maintain 
Federal and state requirements and ELDT qualifications), many of these 
removals were ``voluntary.'' For example, one removal was based on a 
training provider closing its doors which suggests an urgent need to 
audit the registry and weed out shoddy providers. We urge this 
Subcommittee to play a role in pushing this critical action to prevent 
exploitation, preserve the value of the ELDT program, and improve 
safety.
    Additionally, ATA strongly supports expanded enforcement of driver 
qualification requirements, including English Language Proficiency 
(ELP). Driver qualification standards are a fundamental component of 
ensuring roadway safety. The ability to understand and respond to 
traffic signs, communicate with law enforcement, and complete required 
reports and logs is essential to the safe operation of commercial 
vehicles on our Nation's roadway--and has long been a Federal motor 
carrier safety regulation. As outlined in 49 CFR Sec. 391.11(b)(2), 
commercial motor vehicle drivers operating in the U.S. must be able to 
read and speak English ``sufficiently to converse with the general 
public, to understand highway traffic signs and signals. . ., to 
respond to official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and 
records.'' ATA applauds the Trump Administration and this Congress for 
taking action to clarify and enforce this longstanding requirement. In 
keeping with the President's April 28th Executive Order, ``Enforcing 
Commonsense Rules of the Road for America's Truck Drivers,'' the 
Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA) reenacted ELP requirements as 
part of its Out-of-Service (OOS) criteria for commercial drivers 
(effective June 25, 2025). Simultaneously, FMCSA revised its policy and 
associated guidance outlining how law enforcement must assess a 
driver's ability to meet the Federal ELP requirement. FMCSA's revised 
ELP policy sets forth a two-part roadside assessment for roadside 
enforcement to determine whether a driver's lack of English proficiency 
poses safety risks warranting OOS action including (1) a driver's 
ability to communicate effectively with enforcement officers (such as 
load contents, origin, and destination), and (2) read and interpret 
road signs, including dynamic message signs that display critical 
roadway safety advisories.
    ATA supports FMCSA's clarification and revised ELP policy as a 
commonsense, safety-driven measure that upholds the principle that all 
drivers operating on U.S. roadways must be equipped with the necessary 
communication skills to respond in real-time to rapidly evolving 
roadway conditions, enforcement directions, or emergency situations. In 
an April 2025 letter, ATA also urged DOT to improve tracking of CDL 
issuances, including non-domiciled CDLs.\10\ We strongly support 
Secretary Duffy's initiative, announced in June, to audit state driver 
licensing agencies' practices regarding non-domicile CDL issuance to 
ensure that all commercial drivers on our Nation's roadways are 
properly qualified and licensed. We urge the Subcommittee to support 
continued implementation of this policy and to complement these efforts 
with a broader, end-to-end commitment to ensuring that only safe, 
qualified commercial drivers--through rigorous training, testing, and 
enforcement--are permitted to operate on our Nation's roadways.
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    \10\ ``Spear, Chris. April 10, 2025. Letter to Secretary of 
Transportation Sean Duffy. Available online at: https://
www.trucking.org/sites/default/files/2025-04/ATA_DOT20April%202025%20
Enforcement%20and%20CDL%20issuance%20FINAL4-10-25.pdf.
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Supporting Trucking Career Pathways and the Dignity of the Driver
    The trucking industry, which serves as the backbone of our Nation's 
economy and supply chain, continues to face driver shortages. Due to 
the recent freight recession, the driver shortage has been alleviated, 
but it has certainly not been eliminated. It is also important to note 
that even though the driver shortage may now be less severe than it was 
in 2022, the long-term causes of the driver shortage have not changed, 
and the industry fully expects the shortage to worsen when the freight 
market recovers. Over the next decade, trucking companies will need to 
hire roughly 1.2 million new drivers to keep pace with growing freight 
demand and an aging workforce.\11\
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    \11\ ATA Driver Shortage Update 2022. American Trucking 
Associations, October 25, 2022. Available online at: https://
ata.msgfocus.com/files/amf_highroad_solution/project_2358/ATA_
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    Similarly, there is a diesel technician shortage in our industry. 
According to data from the TechForce Foundation, an estimated 41,000 
additional diesel technicians were needed in 2022, including new 
positions for additional work, unfilled prior openings, and replacement 
of those leaving the position.\12\ This shortage does not include the 
collision repair technicians, tire technicians, etc. that are also in 
demand. Long term, without additional skilled technicians to perform 
both regular and acute maintenance of trucks, our vehicles will be less 
safe and fuel efficient--and so will your automobiles.
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    \12\ ATA works with TechForce to track the technicians needs of the 
industry. TechForce's report on national technician needs is available 
upon request. The Committee can contact them through their website: 
https://techforce.org/.
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    These are good-paying, family-sustaining jobs that are not 
accompanied with the same debt that often comes with a college degree. 
The vast majority of diesel technicians make $50,000-$80,000 per year 
in base salary plus bonuses.\13\ Truck drivers make good salaries too, 
with truckload drivers earning a median salary of $76,420 per year 
according to a 2023 ATA industry survey.\14\ This is a nearly 10 
percent increase over the two preceding years.\15\ That same study 
found linehaul less-than-truckload (LTL) drivers earning a median 
salary of $94,525 in 2023,\16\ and local LTL drivers earning a median 
salary of $80,680.\17\ Drivers who choose to become independent 
contractors earn even more than those averages, while enjoying the 
opportunity to set their own schedules, choose the routes they run, and 
grow their own businesses. ATA strongly supports the protection of the 
independent contractor business model that is at the heart of the 
trucking industry.
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    \13\ The State of Diesel Mechanics, Randall Reilly/Shell Lubricant 
Solutions, 2022, at 12 (copy available upon request from https://
www.randallreilly.com/).
    \14\ Driver Compensation Study: Operations Data 2023, American 
Trucking Associations, p. 14.
    \15\ Ibid.
    \16\ Ibid., P. 66.
    \17\ Ibid., P. 67.
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    Relatedly, it is vitally important that Congress provide the 
skilled trades with the same access to financial resources and 
flexibility as are afforded to traditional four-year colleges and 
institutions. ATA was grateful for strong bipartisan support of the 
Freedom to Invest in Tomorrow's Workforce Act¸ which allows 
individuals to use 529 funds to pay for training to become truck 
drivers or diesel mechanics, as well as various measures to enable the 
use of short-term Pell Grants for these programs. We were also grateful 
to see those measures enacted in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
    Looking ahead, we want to work with champions of the industry on 
both sides of the aisle to build upon this success and work toward 
parity in terms of the financial resources and options available for 
the skilled trades compared to traditional colleges and universities. 
ATA strongly supports establishing apprenticeships that will help new 
drivers enter the industry and receive valuable training. For this 
reason, we have endorsed bills such as the bipartisan, bicameral 
Veterans Transition to Trucking Act and are grateful to members of 
Congress, including members of the Commerce Committee, for their 
leadership in advocating for robust apprenticeship programs.
    Reducing financial barriers to entry will certainly help the 
trucking industry recruit the next generation of safe truck drivers. 
ATA also strongly supports passage of the bipartisan LICENSE Act, which 
would reduce burdensome red tape and outdated barriers to obtaining a 
CDL by codifying DOT waivers issued under both Presidents Trump and 
Biden with no findings of adverse safety impacts.
Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program
    The IIJA directed the DOT to establish the Safe Driver 
Apprenticeship Pilot Program (SDAP) to provide a pathway for 18-, 19-, 
and 20-year-old drivers to gain the knowledge, skills, and expertise to 
drive safely in interstate commerce. The SDAP was modeled after the 
apprenticeship program originally outlined in the DRIVE Safe Act and 
requires apprentices to complete 400 hours of on-duty time with an 
experienced driver, meet 13 performance benchmarks, and operate 
vehicles with five industry-leading safety technologies, including an 
active braking collision mitigation system and a forward-facing video 
event capture system. The pilot program was designed to provide a level 
of safety far beyond what is currently required for similarly aged 
individuals to obtain their CDLs and drive intrastate to demonstrate 
that, with the appropriate education, training, and safety technology, 
18-, 19-, and 20-year-old drivers can operate safely in interstate 
commerce.
    While ATA was enthusiastic about the prospects for this highly 
anticipated and widely supported pilot program, DOT's problematic 
implementation of the SDAP irreparably stunted participation and 
deterred younger drivers from considering this career pathway. DOT 
added two additional requirements not found in law as a condition of 
participation. These included a requirement that participating motor 
carriers be part of a Department of Labor (DOL)-approved Registered 
Apprenticeship Program to be eligible, and a requirement that 
participating motor carriers utilize driver-facing inward cameras, 
another safety technology beyond the five safety technologies already 
required. Importantly, the latter requirement was added almost eight 
months after the enactment of the IIJA and just before the pilot 
program was launched. The last-minute changes caused many motor 
carriers to decline participation in the program altogether. This 
egregious overstep necessitated Congressional action, which was signed 
by the President, to prohibit DOT from imposing its unnecessary, 
additional conditions for participation.
    Unfortunately, by the time DOT was forced to restore SDAP back to 
its original intent, the pilot program was nearly at the halfway point 
to the three-year sunset, and the damage had already been done. The 
short duration of the pilot program and the associated lack of 
permanence has deterred motor carriers from undergoing the onerous and 
costly process to adjust internal operations and become eligible for 
SDAP participation. Motor carriers have also cited challenges with 
securing insurance for potential apprentices. At this point, with just 
a few months remaining before the sunset of the SDAP, DOT's latest data 
for the fourth quarter of 2024 show that only 68 apprentices have 
applied, and 36 have completed the probationary periods.\18\ I would 
note that 59 motor carriers and 139 experienced drivers (trainers) have 
been approved to participate.\19\ If given more time, these carriers 
and experienced drivers would have the opportunity to train more 
apprentices. In total, apprentices have driven over 1,250,000 miles and 
over 23,500 hours safely in interstate commerce.\20\ Importantly, 
according to the latest data reported by DOT, no apprentices in the 
pilot have been involved in a reportable crash.
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    \18\ Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program, Quarterly Program 
Update, End of Fourth Quarter 2024, Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration. Available online at https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/
fmcsa.dot.gov/files/2025-02/SDAP%204Q-2024.pdf (accessed July 16, 
2025).
    \19\ Ibid.
    \20\ Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot Program, Program Committee 
Briefing, Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, April 11, 2023.
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    While participation fell short of the 3,000-concurrent participant 
cap, the data generated from this pilot program demonstrates what the 
trucking industry knows to be true: that with rigorous safety and 
training guardrails, 18-, 19-, and 20-year-old drivers can operate 
safely in interstate commerce. Several of our members have utilized 
SDAP and are enthusiastic supporters of it. They have found the program 
to be a valuable component of their overall workforce development 
efforts, and the SDAP program has made a significant difference in the 
lives of these apprentices.
    Importantly, the SDAP will sunset in November 2025, and apprentices 
who are in the process of completing the program will unfortunately 
have to forfeit the progress they've made toward the ability to operate 
in interstate commerce. We urge this Subcommittee, and DOT, to consider 
extending the sunset of the SDAP until a more permanent solution can be 
enacted through the upcoming surface transportation reauthorization. A 
permanent pathway to fulfilling careers will help the trucking industry 
recruit the next generation of talented, safe drivers and will help 
address the pervasive driver shortage.
Ensuring Bathroom Access
    Truck drivers are the heartbeat of our economy and critical to 
supply chain continuity. When they stop for pickups or deliveries--
which can take hours on end while the truck waits to be loaded or 
unloaded--drivers should have access to restroom facilities. Such basic 
accommodations are more than just common courtesy; this is about 
ensuring the dignity of drivers and supporting the men and women who do 
the heavy lifting to provide for everyone in this country. Guaranteeing 
restroom access would address a major barrier to retaining and 
recruiting more truck drivers, particularly women.
    ATA is thankful for the bipartisan introduction of a bill in the 
House of Representatives that will confront this challenge faced by 
professional truck drivers: H.R. 2514, the Trucker Bathroom Access Act. 
The legislation requires shipper and receiver facilities to make 
existing employee restrooms available to truck drivers. We would be 
grateful for bipartisan support for this issue in the Senate as well, 
potentially for introducing a standalone measure and considering it 
during the upcoming surface transportation reauthorization. We look 
forward to working with you to ensure that drivers' most basic needs 
are met while they do the important work of delivering the Nation's 
goods.
Expanding Truck Parking Capacity
    Another barrier to supply chain efficiency is the ongoing, well-
documented shortage of safe truck parking. As with prohibitions in 
accessing bathrooms while on the job, the nationwide shortage of safe, 
secure, well-lit areas to park a truck overnight is a huge disincentive 
for workers--particularly women, who currently make up only 7 percent 
of truck drivers--from entering careers in trucking. In 2015, the 
Federal Highway Administration's (FHWA) Jason's Law report acknowledged 
the shortage of truck parking capacity as a serious highway safety 
concern. The FHWA found that more than 75 percent of truck drivers and 
almost 66 percent of logistics personnel ``regularly [experienced] 
problems with finding safe parking locations when rest was needed.'' 
\21\ Due to inaction at the federal, state, and local levels, the truck 
parking shortage has only worsened since 2015. In its 2019 update to 
the Jason's Law report, the FHWA found that the percentage of drivers 
who regularly had trouble finding truck parking had skyrocketed from 75 
percent to 98 percent.\22\ This is not only a public safety issue and 
problem for drivers on the road today, it also represents an enormous 
challenge to recruiting a new generation of drivers (including women 
and other traditionally underrepresented demographics) to enter the 
industry.
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    \21\ Jason's Law Truck Parking Survey Results and Comparative 
Analysis. Federal Highway Administration, U.S. Department of 
Transportation, August 2015.
    \22\ Jason's Law Commercial Motor Vehicle Parking Survey and 
Comparative Assessment Presentation. Federal Highway Administration, 
U.S. Department of Transportation, December 2020.
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    Sustained and robust Federal investment in the expansion of truck 
parking capacity is key to addressing this longstanding problem. ATA 
supports the Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act, which would 
establish a competitive discretionary grant program and dedicate $755 
million for truck parking projects across the country.
Protect Our Supply Chains
    The upcoming surface transportation reauthorization is also a 
chance to address issues which have caused increasing challenges since 
the enactment of the IIJA. As the Subcommittee is aware, there has been 
a dramatic rise in the incidence of cargo theft and freight fraud, 
which is disruptive to our supply chains and which will require new 
tools and coordination at the Federal level to combat organized crime. 
Additionally, ATA supports the clarification that states are prohibited 
from superseding National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 
standards for motor vehicle safety.
Cargo Theft and Freight Fraud
    ATA is grateful to the Subcommittee for beginning a larger 
discussion about the substantial impacts of cargo theft on the trucking 
industry and our Nation's supply chains with its hearing in February. 
That hearing provided a platform for a trucking executive to share his 
personal experience as a victim of cargo theft and fraud, and he 
highlighted the vulnerabilities of FMCSA's registration system, as well 
as the critical downstream impacts of those vulnerabilities. Moreover, 
the witness also used his time to encourage the Subcommittee to 
exercise robust oversight as the agency takes steps to upgrade its 
registration system and implement enhanced identify verification 
processes to further bolster security and deter bad actors.
    ATA was encouraged by Chairman Young's publication of an op-ed 
titled, ``Cargo Theft is a Growing National Security Issue,'' following 
the hearing and wholeheartedly agrees with his assessment that Congress 
must ``examine and reconcile potential catalysts that allow criminals 
to steal cargo, modernize and implement safeguards for businesses and 
consumers, and ensure our law enforcement agencies are adequately 
prepared and equipped to respond to reports of wrongdoing.'' This 
Subcommittee is well-positioned to ensure that DOT engages in an ``all-
hands-on-deck'' approach by coordinating with other appropriate Federal 
agencies, law enforcement, and the private sector to combat the 
organized theft groups (OTGs) and transnational criminal organizations 
(TCOs) who are currently exploiting our domestic supply chains. 
Relatedly, Chairman Cruz announced at a full Committee hearing last 
week that he is currently drafting legislation to help DOT combat cargo 
theft and rampant fraud, and we greatly appreciate his attention to 
this complex issue.
    Furthermore, we are grateful that the Committee on Commerce, 
Science, and Transportation has already taken an important first step 
toward providing FMCSA with the necessary tools, resources, and 
authorities to protect the trucking industry and consumers from fraud 
by approving the Household Goods Shipping Consumer Protection Act (S. 
337). Specifically, this bill restores FMCSA's ability to impose civil 
penalties against unauthorized brokers and other bad actors, allowing 
the agency to act swiftly in meting out penalties. The bipartisan 
legislation gives states the ability to use Federal funds to enforce 
consumer protection laws and root out fraudulent actors before they 
strike. The Household Goods Shipping Consumer Protection Act is a 
critical element of a broader Federal response to freight fraud, and we 
hope that Congress advances it expeditiously.
Strengthening NHTSA's Role in Setting Industry Standards
    Under existing law--going back to the National Traffic and Motor 
Vehicle Safety Act of 1966, Pub. L. 89-563--when NHTSA promulgates a 
Federal motor vehicle safety standard, states are prohibited from 
issuing standards of their own on that same subject (see 49 U.S.C. 
Sec. 30103(b)(1)). Congress has charged NHTSA with promulgating 
``practicable,'' ``objective'' standards that ``meet the need for motor 
vehicle safety,'' (see 49 U.S.C. Sec. 30111(a)). Allowing states to 
promulgate their own equipment standards when NHTSA has acted 
undermines that decision.
    However, current law contains an exception that threatens to 
swallow the rule: it expressly provides that compliance with a NHTSA 
standard does not preempt ``liability at common law'' (see 49 U.S.C. 
Sec. 30103(e)). This invites legal uncertainty, undermines 
Congressional intent to empower NHTSA to promulgate nationally uniform 
motor vehicle safety standards, and threatens supply chain integrity. 
Given that the trucking industry operates in all 50 states and that the 
market for motor vehicles is national in scope, we strongly support 
NHTSA's role as the primary authority over motor vehicle safety 
standards and urge Congress to reaffirm that role.
Ensure Long-Term American Leadership
    IIJA was the largest investment in our Nation's supply chain 
infrastructure in nearly a century and represented a concrete effort to 
ensure America's global economic leadership. As the Subcommittee looks 
towards the 2026 reauthorization, we would be remiss not to highlight 
additional opportunities to build on that investment moving forward and 
to make sure that Federal regulatory leadership and resource 
allocations are focused on a long-term strategy that will keep our 
economy growing for years to come.
Federal Leadership in Autonomous Technology Development
    As mentioned before, America's truck drivers are the unsung heroes 
of our supply chain; they are the trucking industry's greatest asset. 
The groundbreaking developments in autonomous vehicle (AV) technologies 
offer opportunities to help improve the safety and productivity of 
those individuals, and to make trucking a safer and more welcoming 
profession for the next generation of truck drivers. New autonomous 
technologies do not mean that all vehicles will become ``driverless 
vehicles'' and that truck driving jobs will be eliminated. The reality 
is more nuanced.
    Given the variety of freight movement--including liquids, 
livestock, hazardous material, large construction equipment, and 
oversize loads--and the variety of road, terrain, and weather 
conditions throughout the country, there will continue to be a role and 
need for drivers as part of a logistics system that includes automated 
trucks. ATA believes that automated trucks will be a tool that will 
help improve the efficiency of freight movements and help address the 
persistent shortage of drivers, not replace them. Driver 
responsibilities may adjust over time with deployment of automated 
technologies, but the industry will continue to need drivers, our 
greatest asset.
    The trucking industry has a substantial stake in the enhancements 
to road safety that automated and connected vehicle technology will 
provide. America's roads and bridges are truck drivers' workplace, and 
safety is paramount. The safety gains achieved by removing human 
error--as well as the additional economic and societal benefits--are 
very enticing to an industry that already spends billions of dollars 
annually on safety, including technology enhancements, to ensure that 
drivers and passengers of all vehicles make it safely to their 
destination.
    ATA will continue to advocate for a strong Federal framework for 
automated vehicle testing and deployment. Such a Federal framework is 
critical for ensuring the safety and trust of the public and necessary 
for testing the efficacy of automated vehicles in interstate commerce. 
A Federal framework also provides clear paths for new and innovative 
technologies to move from testing to deployment through established DOT 
processes. This can include exemptions, interpretations, 
investigations, or data requirements designed to ensure safety and 
build public trust.
    We encourage Congress and Federal agencies to develop proactive 
policies that will foster innovation and ensure that America does not 
fall behind its global competitors in the development of this important 
technology. AVs and automated driving system (ADS) deployment have the 
potential to significantly enhance the safety, efficiency, and 
productivity of the U.S. freight and logistics systems. We have an 
opportunity to ensure that the technologies and vehicles that generate 
those benefits are developed, improved, implemented, and sold around 
the world by American companies.
Supporting Deregulatory Efforts
    As the Nation's largest representative of motor carriers and motor 
carrier suppliers, ATA strongly supports the Trump Administration's 
efforts to ensure a regulatory environment that appropriately 
prioritizes reducing undue burdens and costs on motor carriers without 
compromising strong safety regulatory protections. Regulated entities, 
including motor carriers, rely on thoughtful, well-written, and safety-
driven Federal regulations and guidance to ensure the utmost safety for 
commercial drivers and all who share the road. However, ATA recognizes 
that certain Federal rules and regulations that affect the trucking 
industry are redundant, outdated, or place undue burden on members of 
the trucking industry--in some cases, invoking compliance merely for 
compliance's sake rather than a material benefit to the industry or 
national interest. ATA applauds this Administration and DOT's efforts 
to swiftly review and take deregulatory action to existing rules, 
regulations, and guidance that remove unnecessary red tape and 
regulatory burdens and promote industry efficiency without harming 
safety.
    As part of these efforts, in May 2025, ATA offered numerous 
targeted deregulatory recommendations to DOT and OMB aimed at aligning 
Federal regulations with modern technology, operational realities, and 
safety priorities--many of which the Administration has already acted 
on. ATA urged DOT to eliminate outdated or burdensome requirements that 
no longer contribute to highway safety. These include repealing the 
rear underride guard certification label mandate under 49 CFR 393.86, 
which creates unnecessary costs for carriers without measurable safety 
benefits, and updating roadside warning device requirements (49 CFR 
393.95(f)) to support vehicle-integrated lighting systems--particularly 
for autonomous vehicles--rather than relying on driver-deployed warning 
triangles. ATA also called for revisions to hazmat railroad crossing 
rules (49 CFR 392.10-392.11) that require all stops regardless of risk 
level, and for the repeal of legacy trailer marking rules (49 CFR 
393.13) that apply to equipment no longer in service. ATA also urged 
DOT and FMCSA to modernize Electronic Logging Device (ELD) related 
rules by allowing digital access to required documents and removing 
unnecessary paper log backup requirements (49 CFR 395.8(k)(1) and 
395.22(h)). Moreover, ATA recommended making permanent existing 
exemptions for simplified ELD use during yard moves, eliminating manual 
logging requirements that add administrative burden without enhancing 
safety. Additional reforms included eliminating the 15-day roadside 
inspection report return requirement (49 CFR 396.9), modernizing CDL/
CLP testing rules to improve workforce entry, and rescinding broker 
transaction transparency requirements (49 CFR 371.3(c)) that conflict 
with market principles and fall outside FMCSA's safety mandate.
    While ATA supports regulatory reform, we strongly urge Congress and 
DOT to preserve proven, safety-enhancing regulations that, if 
eliminated, would materially and consequentially impact highway safety 
for all road users. Among these critical regulations is the ELD 
mandate, which has delivered measurable reductions in hours-of-service 
(HOS) violations and crash rates since implementation. Repealing or 
weakening this mandate, which has been requested by some industry 
stakeholders, would be a step back for the industry as ELDs modernize 
compliance monitoring and enforcement without altering rest 
requirements. We also emphasize that any future changes to the 
underlying HOS rules, upon which ELD rules are predicated, must be 
grounded in data and scientific research. Similarly, as previously 
mentioned, ATA supports continued advancement of life-saving 
technologies like AEB and opposes efforts that would slow or reverse 
progress on drug and alcohol testing reforms. In all cases, regulatory 
streamlining must not come at the expense of highway safety, and we 
commend DOT and FMCSA's approach to sound, practical deregulatory 
action.
Addressing Critical Freight Bottlenecks
    Infrastructure investments must be made in ways that benefit 
highway system efficiency, lower supply chain costs, and ensure the 
competitiveness of American businesses with global supply chain 
partners. ATA strongly supports investments that will reduce freight 
congestion at key bottlenecks and encourage the efficient movement of 
goods at our Nation's intermodal gateways.
    Highway congestion, for example, added nearly $109 billion to the 
cost of freight transportation in 2022--a 15 percent increase year-
over-year.\23\ In 2022, truck drivers sat in traffic for 1.2 billion 
hours, equivalent to more than 435,000 drivers sitting idle for a 
year.\24\ This caused the trucking industry to consume an additional 
6.4 billion gallons of fuel, resulting in the release of 65.4 million 
metric tons of additional carbon dioxide emissions.\25\
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    \23\ Cost of Congestion to the Trucking Industry: 2024 Update. 
American Transportation Research Institute, Dec. 2024.
    \24\ Ibid.
    \25\ Ibid.
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    ATA recommends that the next surface transportation bill bolster 
discretionary funding programs to ensure that they address major 
freight bottlenecks. ATRI annually identifies the top 100 freight 
bottlenecks nationwide, and the trucking industry suggests that DOT 
prioritize these locations for maintenance and improvement.\26\
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    \26\ Top 100 Bottlenecks--2024. American Transportation Research 
Institute, 2024.
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    Another contributing factor to supply chain bottlenecks and 
efficiency is the poor state of freight intermodal connectors--the 
roads that connect ports, rail yards, airports and other multimodal 
facilities to the National Highway System. Despite their vital role in 
the freight distribution network and the economy, these connectors are 
often neglected and fail to receive needed investments. Currently, only 
9 percent of intermodal connectors are in good or very good condition, 
19 percent are in mediocre condition, and a troubling 37 percent are 
rated in poor condition.\27\ Not only do deteriorating roads damage 
both the vehicles and the freight they carry, but FHWA found a 
correlation between poor roads and vehicle speed. Average speed on a 
connector in poor condition was 22 percent lower than on connectors in 
fair or better condition.\28\ FHWA further found that congestion on 
freight intermodal connectors causes 1,059,238 hours of truck delay 
annually and 12,181,234 hours of automobile delay.\29\ Congestion on 
freight intermodal connectors adds over $96 million to freight 
transportation costs each year.\30\
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    \27\ Freight Intermodal Connectors Study. Federal Highway 
Administration, April 2017.
    \28\ Ibid.
    \29\ Ibid.
    \30\ An Analysis of the Operational Costs of Trucking: 2025 Update. 
American Transportation Research Institute, July 2025.. Estimates 
average truck operational cost of $90.89 per hour.
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    One possible reason connectors are neglected is that the vast 
majority of these roads (70 percent) are under the jurisdiction of a 
local or county government.\31\ Too often, these roads serve critical 
roles in regional, national, and international commerce beyond the 
geographic boundaries of the jurisdictions that have responsibility for 
them, but those broader interests may not be factored into the local 
jurisdictions' spending decisions. While intermodal connectors are 
eligible for Federal funding, this is simply not good enough. ATA 
supports a set-aside of funding for freight intermodal connectors to 
ensure that these critical arteries are given the attention and 
resources they deserve.
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    \31\ Freight Intermodal Connectors Study. Federal Highway 
Administration, April 2017.
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Prioritizing Projects That Improve Freight Mobility
    Although the IIJA did not set aside funding for either highway 
bottleneck elimination or intermodal connectors, these projects are 
eligible for funding under several of the discretionary programs. 
Congress should ensure that the resources available from these 
important programs are used primarily for projects that improve 
transportation safety and mobility, as well as projects that address 
infrastructure deficiencies that contribute to supply chain 
inefficiencies. These programs should not be used to advance parochial 
agendas that are outside of their Congressionally mandated scope. Nor 
should Congress further divert funding from highway projects. Highways 
carry the vast majority of people and freight, and unlike some modes, 
including freight railroads, highway users cannot directly invest in 
their transportation infrastructure. They must instead rely on 
government agencies to effectively invest their user fee revenue in 
projects that improve roadway safety and efficiency. Using this money 
to subsidize other transportation modes breaks the trust and the 
implied agreement that users place in their elected officials to invest 
in projects that are directly beneficial to motorists.
Providing Consistent, Sustainable Funding
    Underpinning all these recommendations is the need for a long-term, 
stable revenue source for the Highway Trust Fund (HTF) to support 
investments in our roads and bridges. This revenue source should be 
paid for equitably by all road users, including those that do not 
currently contribute to the HTF. The trucking industry is the leading 
payer to the HTF, contributing almost half of all revenues while 
representing less than 5 percent of road users. While the trucking 
industry is proud to pay our fair share, Congressional attention and 
action is necessary to ensure a lasting, viable, and equitable revenue 
source for continued infrastructure investments.
    Federal fuel taxes, which are the primary funding sources for the 
HTF, have not increased since 1993. If Congress will not act to 
increase those taxes, or even index them for inflation, then 
alternative solutions that account for new engine technologies must be 
enacted in a way that ensures the burden of maintaining our highways is 
allocated fairly and sustainably for future generations. ATA recommends 
a user-pay solution to the HTF shortfall that adheres to the following 
principles:

   Reasonably Uniform Application: Apply uniformly across 
        various classes of highway users to ensure fairness.

   Verifiable Metrics: Base the system primarily on measurable 
        and easily verifiable factors, such as highway and vehicle use.

   Evasion Prevention: Minimize opportunities for tax or fee 
        evasion to maintain revenue integrity.

   Administrative Simplicity: Ensure the system is cost-
        effective and straightforward for the government to administer, 
        collect, and enforce, without imposing excessive administrative 
        or record-keeping burdens on highway users.

   Commerce-Friendly: Avoid creating barriers or inefficiencies 
        that hinder interstate commerce.

    Identifying a long-term, sustainable solution for HTF revenues can 
also provide flexibility to ultimately relieve trucking of the burden 
of the century-old, 12 percent Federal excise tax on heavy-duty trucks 
and trailers. Initially implemented as a 3 percent tax to offset the 
cost of American participation in World War I, this tax has grown to be 
one of the highest excise taxes on any good in the United States. As it 
adds over $20,000 to the cost of a new $180,000 truck and $6,000 to the 
cost of a new $50,000 trailer, this onerous charge creates a 
disincentive to putting new equipment that is cleaner and safer than 
ever before on our Nation's highways.
    Meanwhile, at the state level, the absence of sufficient funding 
from user fees has led states to increasingly turn to tolls to fund 
infrastructure projects. Unfortunately, there appears to be a growing 
trend that places this burden disproportionately and unfairly on the 
trucking industry through the misuse of tolls. A recent court decision 
in Rhode Island legalized truck-only tolls, allowing the state to 
reinstate tolls solely on tractor-trailers, which represent just 3 
percent of vehicles on the tolled facilities. In Manhattan, trucks must 
pay a toll every time they cross 60th Street, while cars pay only once 
per day. As these anti-truck tolling arrangements spread, the price 
will be borne by consumers due to higher supply chain costs. We urge 
Congress to reform Federal Interstate tolling authority to prevent 
these types of abuses.
In Conclusion
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the 8.5 
million people in trucking-related jobs who power our Nation's supply 
chains and keep the wheels of the economy turning. Surface 
transportation reauthorization in the 119th Congress is a potentially 
transformational opportunity for our country. The ATA looks forward to 
supporting your efforts to improve the safe and efficient movement of 
freight across our Nation and to encourage economic growth.
    Thank you again for your leadership on these vital issues.

    Senator Young. Thank you, Mr. Spear.
    Mr. Pugh, you are recognized for 5 minutes, sir.

   STATEMENT OF LEWIE PUGH, EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT, OWNER-
            OPERATOR INDEPENDENT DRIVERS ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Pugh. Yes. Thank you, Chairman Young, and Ranking 
Member Peters, and Members of the Subcommittee. I am Lewie 
Pugh, the Executive Vice President of the Owner-Operator 
Independent Drivers Association.
    From the U.S. Army to running my own trucking business, 
trucking is the only thing I have ever done my entire adult 
life, with over two and a half million safe miles of driving. 
OOIDA is the largest national association representing small 
business truckers and professional drivers. We have 
approximately 150,000 members across the country who operate 
240,000 pieces of equipment.
    Our mission is to promote and protect the interests of 
members on any issues that impact their safety and their 
success. The Trump administration has embraced a new approach 
to developing trucking policy to prioritize the needs of 
truckers. It began in February when the U.S. DOT reopened its 
public comment period on broker transparency, rulemaking that 
was launched in 2020 in response to an OOIDA petition.
    It continued in April with an executive order addressing 
OOIDA's request to enforce existing English language rules, a 
proficiency that have long been ignored. And just last month, 
Secretary Duffy announced nine major initiatives, nine, to 
improve working conditions for truckers that directly addressed 
many long-standing driver concerns, including withdrawing the 
controversial speed limiter mandate.
    These steps are welcome and long overdue in a departure 
from the old ways of Washington. They demonstrate regulators 
are finally prioritizing truckers over corporate mega fleets, 
shippers, trial lawyers, and safety advocates. To be clear, 
OOIDA is a nonpartisan organization. We have a reputation of 
telling you how it is, and we don't pull any punches, but we 
also give credit where credit is due and advocate tirelessly on 
behalf of our members.
    Truckers now need lawmakers to embrace the new approach the 
White House has taken with as much energy and resolve. I assure 
you this can be done in a bipartisan manner and promote highway 
safety that improves driver recruitment, retention, increases 
supply chain efficiency.
    In fact, many of OOIDA's proposals for the Highway Bill 
already achieve these objectives. This includes enhancing 
driver training, improving restroom access, and combating 
freight fraud. More broadly, efforts to expand truck parking 
capacity, eliminate the Federal Law that prevents truckers from 
being guaranteed overtime pay, and stopping the unsafe 
increases of truck size and weights. These have all garnered 
significant bipartisan support.
    While truckers are thrilled that folks in Washington are 
finally listening to their needs, others in the industry will 
resist this new approach. They want to return to the old way of 
doing things when maximizing corporate profits and over-
regulating small businesses, dodging responsibility for 
improving working conditions for drivers took precedence.
    For example, large carriers will oppose OOIDA's efforts to 
prohibit predatory lease-owned scams. By design, these leave 
truckers broke and empty-handed. Law enforcement will again 
begin to attempt to put trackers on truckers, which has been 
soundly rejected by the industry. Trial lawyers will pursue a 
totally unnecessary increase in minimum insurance requirements 
to destroy small business trucking, and brokers will fight 
tooth and nail against compliance with broker transparency 
compliance which is a rule that is already on the books.
    Let me remind you the old approach simply doesn't work. 
Policies that large carriers swore would improve safety, like 
electronic login devices, have proven to be totally 
ineffective. The pilot program for teenage drivers has been a 
colossal taxpayer-funded failure and its enrollment numbers 
tell the story.
    As I have outlined in my testimony, Congress has the 
ability to make the next Highway Bill the most pro-trucker pro-
safety bill in history, but only if you commit to prioritizing 
the needs of truckers.
    Thank you for this opportunity. And I look forward to 
answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Pugh follows:]

      Prepared Statement of Lewie Pugh, Executive Vice President, 
             Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association
    Chairman Young, Ranking Member Peters, and members of the 
Subcommittee, my name is Lewie Pugh and I am the Executive Vice 
President of the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association 
(OOIDA). Prior to working at OOIDA, I was a small-business trucker for 
nearly 23 years with 2.5 million miles of safe driving. Before 
operating my own trucking business, I drove a truck during my service 
in the United States Army. I still proudly hold a Commercial Driver's 
License (CDL).
                              ABOUT OOIDA
    The Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) is the 
largest trade association representing small-business truckers and 
professional truck drivers. OOIDA has approximately 150,000 members 
located in all fifty states that collectively own and operate more than 
240,000 individual heavy-duty trucks. OOIDA's mission is to promote and 
protect the interests of our members on any issues that impact their 
economic well-being, working conditions, and the safe operation of 
commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) on our Nation's highways.
    Almost all freight in the United States is carried by a truck at 
some point and over 70 percent is carried exclusively by truckers. 
Small trucking businesses, like those we represent, account for 96 
percent of registered motor carriers in the United States, making them 
a key component of the Nation's supply chain. We are undoubtedly the 
safest and most diverse operators on our Nation's roads. Every region 
of our country and segment of our economy relies upon long-haul truck 
drivers. Our members are an integral part of the global supply chain 
and have a unique perspective on the many challenges our Nation faces 
in moving freight in the safest, most efficient manner.
                              INTRODUCTION
    The Trump Administration has embraced a new approach to developing 
trucking policy that prioritizes the needs of truckers. It began in 
February when the U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT) reopened 
the public comment period for its broker transparency rulemaking that 
was launched in 2020 in response to an OOIDA petition. It continued in 
April with an Executive Order addressing an OOIDA request to enforce 
existing English language proficiency rules that have long been 
ignored. And just last month, Secretary Duffy announced the launch of 9 
major initiatives to improve working conditions for truckers that 
directly addressed many longstanding driver concerns, including 
withdrawing the controversial speed limiter mandate.
    These steps are a welcomed and long-overdue departure from the old 
ways of Washington. They demonstrate regulators are finally 
prioritizing truckers over corporate megafleets, shippers, trial 
lawyers, and safety advocates.
    To be clear, OOIDA is a non-partisan organization. We've always had 
a reputation for telling it like it is. We don't pull punches. But we 
also give credit where credit is due, and advocate tirelessly on behalf 
of our members.
    Truckers now need lawmakers to embrace the new approach taken by 
the White House with as much energy and resolve. I assure you this can 
be done in a bipartisan manner that promotes highway safety, improves 
driver recruitment and retention, and increases supply chain 
efficiency. In fact, many of OOIDA's proposals for the highway bill 
already achieve these objectives.
    This includes enhancing driver training, improving restroom access 
at facilities where truckers pick up and deliver freight, and combating 
freight fraud. More broadly, efforts to expand truck parking capacity, 
eliminate the Federal law that prevents truckers from being guaranteed 
overtime pay, and stopping unsafe increases to truck size and weight 
have all garnered significant bipartisan support.
    While truckers are thrilled folks in Washington are finally 
prioritizing their needs, others in our industry will resist this new 
approach. They will want to return to the old way of doing things--when 
maximizing corporate profits, overregulating small businesses, and 
dodging responsibility for improving working conditions for drivers 
took precedence.
    For example, large carriers will oppose OOIDA's efforts to prohibit 
predatory lease-to-own scams that intentionally leave truckers broke 
and empty-handed. Law enforcement will again attempt to mandate 
`trackers on truckers', which have been soundly rejected by industry. 
Trial lawyers will pursue totally unnecessary increases to minimum 
insurance requirements that will destroy small trucking businesses. 
Safety advocates will push for mandating unproven and cost-prohibitive 
equipment like side underride guards. And brokers will fight efforts to 
ensure they finally comply with existing transparency rules.
    If you're not yet ready to embrace the new trend of prioritizing 
the needs of truckers, let me remind you that the old approach simply 
doesn't work. Policies that large carriers swore would improve safety, 
like the electronic logging device mandate, have proven ineffective. As 
predicted, pilot programs for teenage drivers have been colossal 
failures, leading their proponents to blame inward facing camera 
requirements rather than admit their own policies have made trucking 
unappealing to younger Americans.
    Congress has the ability to make the next highway bill the most 
pro-trucker in history, but only if you commit to prioritizing their 
needs. In my testimony, I've outlined several ways you can do so while 
promoting highway safety, improving driver recruitment and retention, 
and increasing supply chain efficiency. I look forward to discussing 
these proposals with you during questioning.
                            DRIVER TRAINING
    The 2022 implementation of new Entry-Level Driver Training (ELDT) 
requirements represented an important first step to ensuring drivers 
entering our industry are properly trained. Unfortunately, far too many 
drivers still lack the basic skills necessary to safely operate a 
commercial vehicle. Congress must take steps to further enhance safety 
by implementing measured and widely-supported improvements to ELDT 
regulations.
    OOIDA favors the introduction of mandatory behind-the-wheel (BTW) 
hours for new drivers. In 2015, we participated in the Federal Motor 
Carrier Safety Administration's (FMCSA) Entry-Level Driver Training 
Advisory Committee (ELDTAC). ELDTAC was comprised of 26 industry 
representatives tasked with conducting a negotiated rulemaking on 
training regulations and requirements. The panel overwhelmingly 
supported establishing a minimum number of BTW hours in the rulemaking. 
As a result, the agency's Notice of Proposed of Rulemaking originally 
contained a 30-hour BTW benchmark. Regrettably, this critical element 
was omitted in the final ELDT rule.
    Compared to the brief evaluation an examiner is currently required 
to conduct, mandatory BTW training provides greater opportunity to 
evaluate the skills of the entry-level driver and for the trainer to 
offer corrective actions. These hours expose the entry-level driver to 
multiple road signs and various traffic/roadway situations, giving the 
instructor more options to identify and correct deficiencies. At a 
minimum, Congress should improve ELDT by embracing the ELDTAC's 
recommendation that drivers complete a minimum of 30 hours BTW 
training.
    OOIDA also supports the Commercial Motor Vehicle English 
Proficiency Act, S. 2114, introduced by Senator Roger Marshall (R-KS). 
This common-sense bill would require drivers demonstrate they can read 
critical road signs before being permitted to operate an 80,000 lb. 
vehicle on public roadways. It would also require CDL testing be 
conducted only in English. In addition to reading road signs, 
professional truckers routinely communicate with law enforcement and 
first responders in order to do their jobs safely and effectively. 
OOIDA has long advocated for stronger driver training requirements and 
we believe S. 2114 is a key element to achieving this goal.
                            RESTROOM ACCESS
    Most Americans take for granted the fact they readily have access 
to a restroom, especially where they work. For truckers who make their 
living on the road, they often depend on accessing restrooms at 
facilities where they pick-up or deliver freight. Unbelievably, 
professional drivers are frequently denied restroom access at these 
locations. While this problem effects all truckers, it is particularly 
burdensome for female drivers.
    Although this problem has been going on for years, the COVID-19 
pandemic made it worse. Throughout the pandemic, truckers literally put 
their lives on the line to keep the Nation safe. Yet at the same time, 
shippers and receivers started restricting access to their facilities, 
including restrooms. Suddenly, finding a place to use the bathroom 
became more difficult, even impossible at times for our members. While 
the pandemic has subsided and life has largely returned to normal, some 
businesses have kept these crude restrictions in place.
    OOIDA has championed legislation in the House that would solve this 
problem. The Trucker Bathroom Access Act, H.R. 2514, is 
straightforward, bipartisan legislation that would provide truckers the 
dignity and respect they deserve. It is supported by both trucking and 
retail organizations. The bill simply requires that if a business has a 
restroom available for employees or customers, then that restroom must 
also be available to truckers when they are picking up or delivering 
freight. Importantly, the legislation does not require that a business 
build any new restrooms and includes guardrails for safety and security 
considerations at shippers and receivers.
 BROKER TRANSPARENCY, FREIGHT FRAUD, & THE FEDERAL REGISTRATION SYSTEM
    Existing regulations (49 CFR 371.3) require brokers to keep records 
of transactions with motor carriers. Under 371.3, each party to a 
brokered transaction also has the right to review the record of the 
transaction. This allows our members to know precisely how much a 
shipper paid the broker and how much the broker then paid the motor 
carrier. These regulations also enable carriers to verify claims 
charged against them after they finish hauling a load. As motor 
carriers are increasingly victimized by freight fraud, unpaid claims, 
dubious charges, unpaid loads, double brokered loads, and load phishing 
schemes, the current lack of transparency has left them little to no 
means to defend themselves from fraud.
    Unfortunately, brokers have a long history of deliberately and 
blatantly circumventing transparency requirements. In order to protect 
against fraud and scams, we tell our members that they should closely 
examine documentation and verify that all information is legitimate. If 
brokers are allowed to continue evading Federal transparency 
regulations, it makes it difficult for carriers to determine who is 
adhering to the rules or who may be trying to scam them. In short, 
practices that undermine trust and transparency will make it harder to 
determine who is a bad actor.
    In May 2020, OOIDA submitted a Petition for Rulemaking with FMCSA 
to ensure compliance with 371.3. The petition requested that brokers 
automatically provide an electronic copy of each transaction record 
within 48 hours after the contractual service has been completed and 
asked that brokers be prohibited from including any provision in their 
contracts that requires a carrier to waive their rights to access 
transaction records--a shady practice that is rampant among brokers. 
Our rulemaking was granted by FMCSA during the first Trump 
Administration.
    Since the launch of the rulemaking in August 2020, OOIDA and its 
membership submitted thousands of comments to FMCSA, conducted meetings 
with regulators and lawmakers, and participated in public listening 
sessions supporting the need for transparency. These efforts culminated 
in the Biden Administration publishing an NPRM in November 2024, 
demonstrating that ensuring transparency has bipartisan appeal. The 
public comment period initially closed on January 21, 2025, but was 
reopened by the Trump Administration earlier this year for additional 
feedback.
    Unfortunately, the NPRM does not explicitly include the two 
significant reforms we recommended. However, the proposal will help 
ensure that carriers finally have access to fundamental transactional 
documentation and restore a level playing field between carriers, 
shippers, and brokers. We have submitted separate comments detailing 
what FMCSA must do to strengthen the rulemaking, such as clarifying how 
they will enforce the rules and closing all loopholes that let brokers 
waive transparency rights. If implemented properly, this rulemaking 
will contribute to a more ethical, fair, and efficient freight 
brokerage marketplace.
    If FMCSA is unable to finalize a rule that fully prevents brokers 
from evading Federal transparency regulations, it is imperative 
Congress compel the agency to do so.
    Additionally, OOIDA, along with numerous other trucking industry 
stakeholders, strongly supports bipartisan legislation introduced by 
Senators Deb Fischer (R-NE) and Tammy Duckworth (D-IL) to combat 
freight fraud. S. 337, the Household Goods Shipping Consumer Protection 
Act, would restore FMCSA's authority to impose civil penalties on 
unauthorized brokers, require physical addresses for brokers, compel 
the agency to analyze trends and commonalities among companies applying 
for shipping authority to identify potentially bad actors before they 
commit fraud, and allow states to use Federal funds to enforce consumer 
protection laws relating to freight movement. Earlier this year, the 
bill passed this Committee with broad bipartisan support. If it is 
unable to pass the Senate independently, it is critical S. 337 be 
included in the next Highway Bill.
    We also thank FMCSA for responding to feedback from the trucking 
industry by addressing freight fraud through other actions. The agency 
has proposed and/or finalized various fraud-related rulemakings, 
established a registration fraud team, and is currently rolling out an 
updated registration modernization hub known as the Federal 
Registration System (FRS). FRS should help motor carriers, drivers, and 
brokers consolidate their required business information into a 
centralized portal, while preventing fraudulent actors from entering 
the industry. If administered effectively, we are optimistic the system 
can improve the registration process, enhance user experience, 
incorporate identity verification tools, and more readily identify 
fraud within the supply chain. However, the Committee must ensure that 
FMCSA is implementing these new systems and identify verification 
protocols in a safe, reliable manner that protects legitimate 
stakeholders.
                            UNDER-21 DRIVERS
    Large motor carriers have long peddled the thoroughly debunked myth 
of a driver shortage to promote policies that enable them to hire the 
cheapest labor possible. This includes recent efforts to lower the 
minimum age for driving interstate to 18 years old.
    Over the objections of OOIDA, organized labor, and safety advocacy 
groups, Congress authorized the failed Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot 
Program in IIJA. Since the pilot program's launch in January 2022, 
large carriers have struggled mightily to find 18, 19, and 20-year-olds 
interested in participating. In several years, the program has only 
registered a few dozen applicants. The American Trucking Associations, 
who clamored for the inclusion of this initiative in IIJA and called 
the utilization of existing registered apprenticeship programs the 
``gold standard'' for driver training, later reversed course and said 
the stringent apprenticeship standards discouraged participants. 
Carriers have also blamed the required use of inward-facing cameras for 
lackluster driver participation. This is despite the fact that one of 
their largest carriers recently announced they will equip all of their 
tractors with driver-facing cameras.\1\ Large carriers will continue to 
struggle to find participants in the Safe Driver Apprenticeship Pilot 
Program as long as it is authorized, but it's not because of the 
scapegoats they have identified.
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hunt-driver-facing-cameras-ATRI-issues-opportunities-report/647985/.
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    The pilot program has failed to yield a valid sample size and has 
inadvertently shed light on some of the fundamental problems in 
trucking that have stunted the retention of drivers. Rather than 
extending the pilot or decreasing the minimum age requirements for CDL 
holders, the Committee should consider alternative solutions that solve 
some of the problems that drive support for permitting younger drivers 
to haul interstate.
    OOIDA agrees prohibiting younger drivers from crossing state lines 
is foolish. For example, it makes little sense for a young trucker in 
Kansas City, KS, to be allowed to drive to the state's border with 
Colorado, but not deliver freight in neighboring Kansas City, MO. But 
the solution to this problem is not suddenly permitting that 
inexperienced driver to cross the country without limitations, entering 
terrain and experiencing elements they find unfamiliar and have not 
been trained to handle safely.
    Instead, the Committee should consider implementing an air-mile 
radius for younger drivers to operate within that would permit them to 
cross state lines. Not only will this allow businesses shipping across 
state borders to improve their efficiency, it will give inexperienced 
drivers better opportunity to develop their skills in familiar 
conditions while receiving more advanced training. Then, they can enter 
the long-haul segment of our industry when they reach 21 years of age 
better prepared for safe, productive careers behind the wheel of a CMV. 
OOIDA believes a 150-mile radius, which is currently in effect for 
other programs at USDOT, would be appropriate.
    While OOIDA has long opposed large carriers' efforts to expand 
their driver pool to teenagers on the false narrative of a driver 
shortage, we view our air-mile radius proposal as a safer alternative 
that provides benefits to shippers, carriers, and new drivers.
                     PREDATORY LEASE-TO-OWN SCHEMES
    Predatory truck leasing schemes are another longstanding problem 
within our industry. While traditional lease agreements can allow 
truckers to operate as independent small-businesses, there is a subset 
of leasing arrangements that almost always exploits drivers. Under 
these ``lease-purchase'' or ``lease-to-own'' agreements, a motor 
carrier (or related entity) owns a truck and leases it to a driver. In 
turn, the driver enters in to an agreement to lease the truck back to 
and operate it for the motor carrier. This this scenario, the motor 
carrier and lessor are effectively the same entity.
    Companies peddling these supposed ``opportunities'' typically offer 
the false promise of fair compensation, future ownership of the truck, 
and independence from employer-employee requirements. While the 
purported goal of these agreements is for the driver to become a full-
fledged owner-operator at the end of the lease, these schemes rarely 
work. Instead, drivers are paid pennies on the dollar and have their 
work limited by the leasing entity to prevent them from ever securing 
ownership of the truck they lease. They are also provided no 
independence to seek better compensation or more steady work with other 
motor carriers.
    This system pushes individuals who genuinely desire a career in 
trucking out of the industry and further contributes to driver 
turnover. Additionally, the financial and personal pressures resulting 
from escalating debt can create highway safety risks.
    OOIDA supported the establishment of the Truck Leasing Task Force 
(TLTF) in IIJA and its mission to examine the terms, conditions, and 
equitability of common truck leasing arrangements. Following a series 
of productive meetings and discussions, TLTF submitted their findings 
to USDOT, the Department of Labor, and Congress in January 2025. OOIDA 
echoes TLTF's final report which found that the negative impacts of 
inequitable lease-purchase programs negatively affect individual 
drivers (especially new drivers), the trucking workforce, the health of 
the industry, and roadway safety. We encourage the Committee to 
implement TLTF's comprehensive recommendations including enacting a 
statutory prohibition on CMV lease-purchase agreements as irredeemable 
tools of fraud and driver oppression.
                MINIMUM LIABILITY INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS
    OOIDA has long fought efforts to increase minimum liability 
insurance requirements for motor carriers and will vehemently oppose 
legislation that includes an increase of any amount. Not only is such 
an increase wholly unnecessary, it would do nothing to improve highway 
safety, needlessly jeopardize countless blue-collar jobs, and destroy 
many small trucking businesses.
    Federal research has demonstrated such a change is entirely 
unnecessary. A Congressionally-required study determined the vast 
majority of truck-involved crashes do not exceed today's minimum 
insurance levels. In fact, the existing minimum of $750,000 covers 
costs in over 99 percent of crashes involving a CMV.
    It's important to understand the impact any increase would have on 
our economy. Increasing motor carriers' minimum liability requirements 
would affect all businesses transporting property, not just long-haul 
trucking operations. The impact would be felt in many sectors of the 
economy, including the agriculture, construction, manufacturing, 
towing, and materials industries. Raising insurance minimums for 
countless businesses engaged in trucking would undoubtedly cause many 
to shutter, leading to the loss of blue-collar jobs. This policy 
clearly does not belong in legislation that is designed to rebuild our 
infrastructure and encourage economic growth.
    Calls for higher insurance requirements have come from trial 
lawyers looking to line their pockets at the expense of truckers, 
farmers, ranchers, towers, construction firms, manufacturers and any 
other industries reliant upon trucking. We strongly encourage members 
of the Committee to prevent any such provision from being included in 
the next surface transportation reauthorization.
                             SPEED LIMITERS
    In 2022, FMCSA launched a controversial speed limiter rulemaking 
that would restrict all heavy-duty CMVs to a single top speed across 
the country, as low as 60 miles per hour. This mandate would have a 
negative effect on road safety, crash rates, driver retention, and 
supply chain performance, which is precisely why it is incredibly 
unpopular among professional drivers.
    While the Trump Administration has recognized the strong opposition 
to speed limiters among truckers and announced USDOT will withdraw the 
rulemaking, there are lawmakers who want to use surface transportation 
reauthorization to impose a mandate over our members' and other 
industry stakeholders' objections. These efforts must be rejected by 
the Committee.
    However, OOIDA strongly supports efforts to go a step farther. The 
DRIVE Act, S. 1696, is legislation introduced by Senator Steve Daines 
(R-MT) that would prevent future Administrations from advancing any 
policies that create dangerous speed differentials among vehicles, 
which are proven to lead to higher crash rates. We believe this 
proposal must be included in the next Highway Bill.
                ELECTRONIC LOGGING DEVICE CERTIFICATION
    Since its implementation in 2017, the Federal Electronic Logging 
Device (ELD) mandate has been beleaguered by FMCSA's decision to allow 
manufacturers to self-certify devices. Over the last several years, 
nearly 300 ELDs have been deemed non-compliant by the agency, leaving 
truckers little confidence in determining what devices will ensure 
their long-term compliance with the regulation.
    Since Congress forced truckers to comply with this mandate, you 
must now compel FMCSA to implement a long overdue certification process 
that prevents non-compliant devices from ever entering the marketplace.
    A robust certification process would also address long-standing 
concerns involving cybersecurity threats related to ELDs. In 2020, the 
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) issued a bulletin indicating 
self-certified devices did not follow cybersecurity best practices and 
were vulnerable to compromise. Specifically, the bulletin stated, 
``Although the mandate seeks to provide safety and efficiency benefits, 
it does not contain cybersecurity requirements for manufacturers or 
suppliers of ELDs, and there is no requirement for third-party 
validation or testing prior to the ELD self-certification process. This 
poses a risk to businesses because ELDs create a bridge between 
previously unconnected systems critical to trucking operations.'' These 
conditions have not changed in five years.
    Furthermore, Congress must impose a ban on technology from hostile 
nations like Russia and China from being utilized in ELDs that track 
American truckers. ELDs generate copious amounts of data about our 
supply chain, including the movement of specific vehicles. Allowing our 
enemies and competitors unimpeded access to this data should concern 
lawmakers as much as it does the truckers who are forced to use the 
devices. This kind of ban could also be achieved by enacting a rigorous 
certification process at FMCSA.
                         SIDE UNDERRIDE GUARDS
    Truckers hold a number of concerns about mandating underride 
equipment, specifically side underride guards. These include 
operational and safety challenges regarding rail-crossings, loading 
docks, and low ground clearances, as well as equipment damage resulting 
from curbs, roundabouts, speed bumps, and other highway features. 
Additionally, there are no commercially-available side underride guards 
that have demonstrated a capability to fully prevent passenger 
compartment intrusion among passenger vehicles in highway driving 
conditions, raising serious concerns about their purported efficacy and 
benefits.
    For decades, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 
(NHTSA) has considered numerous options involving side underride 
guards. NHTSA has consistently concluded Federal mandates would be 
impractical and cost-prohibitive. The Committee must reject calls for 
this unworkable and costly mandate to be included in surface 
transportation reauthorization.
       UNIQUE ELECTRONIC IDENTIFIERS OR ``TRACKERS ON TRUCKERS''
    Truckers strongly oppose the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance's 
(CVSA) proposal to mandate the use of Universal Electronic Identifiers 
(UEI) or as OOIDA calls them, ``Trackers on Truckers''. Our members 
have been extremely clear that this concept is an unwarranted intrusion 
into their privacy, as well as an overly costly and burdensome 
requirement that does nothing to improve their efficiency or safety. 
Due to the absence of any research demonstrating how the use of UEI 
technology would improve safety, the motivation for pursuing this 
mandate appears to be nothing more than adding convenience for 
enforcement agencies.
    In fact, truckers are concerned the implementation of this proposal 
would negatively affect highway safety if enforcement officers begin 
prioritizing roadside inspections based on potentially unreliable data, 
instead of observable safety hazards. To make matters worse, barreling 
forward with a new mandate involving the transmission of sensitive 
information only intensifies concerns involving identity theft, cargo 
theft, security threats, and more.
    This is likely why FMCSA's September 2022 ANPRM on UEI was soundly 
rejected by industry stakeholders and never advanced through the 
regulatory process. Having reached a dead-end at the agency, CVSA is 
now turning to Congress to impose an unnecessary mandate over the 
objections of motor carriers and professional drivers. The organization 
claims the technology would only be required to transmit identifying 
information related to the CMV. However, FMCSA's stalled ANPRM went 
much further and included the possible transmission of information 
related to the individual trucker operating the vehicle. And as we've 
seen with the ELD mandate, manufacturers have gone well beyond what 
Congress required and offered devices that collect and transmit all 
types of information. As a result, truckers have little faith in CVSA 
and others' long-term commitment to limiting the type of information 
being shared.
            TOLLING AUTHORITY EXPANSION & CONGESTION PRICING
    Truckers hate tolls. They are an extremely inefficient and 
unreliable source of funding. Truckers also hate congestion pricing, 
which unfairly penalizes them for conditions beyond their control. 
Efforts to expand the use of tolling and congestion pricing are the 
direct result of Federal lawmakers' inability to establish sustainable 
funding streams for our highways. Rather than shifting responsibility 
(and blame) to state and local decisionmakers for your own lack of 
political will, Congress should increase the efficient and reliable 
user fees in place today, as well as take simple steps to ensure all 
road users are contributing to the maintenance and development of our 
infrastructure.
    Truckers often have limited control over their schedules, and are 
subject to the demands of shippers and rigid hours-of-service (HOS) 
regulations. They have little choice but to use a tolled road (if a 
non-tolled alternative isn't available) or drive through metropolitan 
areas during times of high congestion. Unlike other highway users, 
truckers may lack the ability to choose alternate routes to avoid 
congestion due to size and weight restrictions, heavy vehicle 
prohibitions, and other limitations on ancillary roads. For these 
reasons, tolling and congestion fees disproportionately and unfairly 
impact truckers.
    Let us be clear--small trucking businesses, which already pay tens-
of-thousands of dollars in taxes every year to maintain our 
infrastructure, are willing to pay more for improved infrastructure, so 
long as it is done in a fair and equitable way. OOIDA has long 
advocated for increases to existing fuel taxes as a way to fund greater 
infrastructure investment. We support new funding mechanisms proposed 
by both the American Highway Users Alliance (AHUA) and the Truckload 
Carriers Association (TCA), which ensure all users are finally paying 
to maintain our roads and bridges.
    If Congress is considering raising revenue, it should have the 
political courage to do so through proven, cost-effective methods like 
fuel taxes, instead of methods like tolling that disproportionately 
harm truckers. The Committee must take steps to not only limit the 
tolling of currently non-tolled highways, but ensure revenue is being 
used exclusively for the maintenance of the tolled asset.
                      VEHICLE MILES TRAVELED FEES
    The authorization of programs to administer Vehicle Miles Traveled 
(VMT) fees, including those targeting only truckers, would be premature 
for the next highway bill. Existing user fees are already incredibly 
efficient and easily administered. These are thoroughly proven 
mechanisms that provide a transparent and effective way to fund highway 
construction and maintenance. The costs of administering these user 
fees are extremely low--estimated to be less than 1 percent of all 
revenues collected. If Congress is serious about raising revenue in the 
near term, it must acknowledge increasing existing user fees is the 
most practical and effective solution.
    In contrast, truck-only VMT taxes have proven to be highly 
problematic and largely unsuccessful. Whereas gasoline and diesel taxes 
have low administration costs because they are collected from a small 
number of entities, a VMT tax imposed on truckers would skyrocket the 
number of payers into the millions. Such a tax structure would be 
incredibly difficult to enforce and would require a major expansion of 
Federal bureaucracy.
    It is a common misconception that increased costs associated with 
truck-only VMTs could simply be passed on to shippers. While its true 
most motor carriers are now capable of passing fuel surcharges along, 
it took truckers decades to defer the rising cost of fuel to their 
customers. Shippers will similarly be unlikely to immediately accept 
higher fees to cover the cost of truck-only VMT. Instead, they will 
simply hire carriers willing to absorb the most cost. For small-
business truckers, who operate on the slimmest of margins, this would 
be particularly harmful. While shippers may one day be willing to 
accept charges for VMT, the initial years or decades of implementation 
could be devastating to small businesses.
    IIJA required USDOT to create the Federal System Funding 
Alternative Advisory Board, a panel directed to analyze VMT. OOIDA has 
a seat on this advisory panel, but the board has only recently begun 
its work. It would be premature for Congress to take any additional 
steps to advance VMT until the panel has finished its report, which 
will include recommendations related to the structure, scope, and 
methodology for developing and implementing a nationwide pilot program.
            NATIONAL CONSUMER COMPLAINT DATABASE IMPROVEMENT
    FMCSA's National Consumer Complaint Database (NCCDB) has proven to 
be an ineffective tool for motor carriers and drivers to report 
coercion and unsafe practices committed by motor carriers, unscrupulous 
activities conducted by brokers, and cases of freight fraud. Typically, 
truckers do not receive a satisfactory response when they call the 
NCCDB hotline or submit their concerns via the online portal--if they 
receive one at all. The lack of response from FMCSA discourages 
truckers from using the NCCDB to submit cases, which also contributes 
to a lack of understanding of the scope of the problems our members 
face with motor carries and brokers.
    FMCSA must improve its response to complaints filed through NCCDB, 
but we recognize the agency likely lacks the resources to do so. NCCDB 
improvements are especially important in light of potential changes to 
HOS rules resulting from upcoming FMCSA pilot programs. HOS flexibility 
must be used at the discretion of drivers; in instances where carriers 
are forcing or coercing drivers to use flexibility in an unsafe way, 
drivers must have a reliable outlet to report these abuses.
    IIJA required the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to examine 
the NCCDB and evaluate the effectiveness of efforts to consider and 
follow-up on complaints submitted to the database, the types of 
complaints, and awareness of the system. The GAO published their 
findings in September 2023, stating, ``FMCSA has not designed 
sufficient controls to help ensure its policy for reviewing complaints 
related to motor carriers is followed.''\2\
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    \2\ GAO Report to Congressional Committees, ``Motor Carrier 
Operations: Improvements Needed to Federal System for Collecting and 
Addressing Complaints against Truck, Moving, and Bus Companies,'' 
September 19, 2023, (GAO-23-105972, https://www.gao.gov/assets/
d23105972.pdf.
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    We are optimistic that Secretary Duffy's recent announcement that 
the NCCDB is being migrated to a modern customer service platform to be 
more user-and mobile-friendly will help streamline the response 
process, improve response timeliness, expand complaint categories to 
include property brokers, and initiate enforcement action when 
applicable.
    We believe ongoing NCCDB changes can further be supplemented simply 
by changing the name of the system. Possible suggestions for a more 
logical name would be the ``National Truck Safety Hotline'' or the 
``Truck Safety and Compliance Hotline.'' A new, more identifiable name 
would help raise the platform's awareness among professional truckers 
and improve its utilization.
    Each year, FMCSA receives hundreds-of-millions of dollars for 
enforcement purposes, a large portion of which is devoted to ensuring 
compliance with regulations that have little to do with highway safety. 
While OOIDA is not in favor of increasing overall enforcement funding 
for FMCSA, we encourage the Committee to repurpose many of these 
dollars--derived largely from user fees imposed on motor carriers--to 
make NCCDB an effective and reliable tool for truckers to report 
concerns.
       ENGLISH PROFICIENCY, NON-DOMICILED CDL HOLDERS, & CABOTAGE
    At a minimum, motor carriers and drivers should be expected to 
comply with existing regulations that promote safety. One such 
requirement is that drivers are able to understand and communicate in 
English. 49 CFR 391.11(b)(2) states that a person is qualified to drive 
a truck only if they, ``Can read and speak the English language 
sufficiently to converse with the general public, to understand highway 
traffic signs and signals in the English language, to respond to 
official inquiries, and to make entries on reports and records.'' The 
ability to understand and react to road signs, especially in emergency 
situations, is critical for public and operational safety. Drivers must 
also be able to communicate with law enforcement and, in the case of an 
emergency, first responders.
    On April 28th, President Trump issued Executive Order 14286, 
``Enforcing Commonsense Rules of the Road for America's Truck 
Drivers.'' The action outlined procedures that have since reinstated 
English proficiency violations back into the Out-of-Service Criteria. 
OOIDA strongly agrees with President Trump's decision to resume 
enforcement of English proficiency requirements for commercial drivers. 
We believe the Executive Order is a welcome step towards restoring a 
commonsense safety standard. OOIDA has also supported legislative 
efforts strengthening English Language Proficiency regulations. S. 2114 
would ensure English Language Proficiency is included in CDL testing 
procedures, while H.R. 3608 would codify licensing and enforcement 
aspects of the Executive Order into regulations.
    Additionally, we applaud the Executive Order's objective to gather 
more information on the number of drivers with non-domiciled CDLs 
currently operating on our roads. Non-domiciled CDLs allow individuals 
to operate a CMV for work, regardless of whether they are an American 
citizen or came to the U.S. with a work visa. FMCSA issued regulatory 
guidance in 2019 that created a loophole for states to expand the 
issuance of non-domiciled CDLs. We are hearing growing concerns from 
truckers about the prevalence of drivers using these licenses. As USDOT 
conducts a nationwide audit into state practices about issuing non-
domiciled CDLs, we urge the Committee to consider how these drivers are 
being recruited, compensated, and treated, and the safety records of 
carriers utilizing these CDL holders. Furthermore, we question the need 
for this program entirely, as trucking is currently experiencing over-
capacity that limits job opportunities for domestic drivers.
    Finally, drivers from Mexico and Canada are being enticed by fleets 
to remain in the U.S. after hauling freight across our borders for the 
purpose of illegally transporting domestic loads. In many cases, fleets 
utilizing these drivers can pay them a fraction of the compensation of 
an American trucker, providing a financial incentive to continue this 
illegal practice. In addition to suppressing domestic wages, this 
practice allows drivers who have completed lower safety standards to 
operate on American roads. Law enforcement must do a better job 
identifying violations and enforcing existing cabotage rules, and FMCSA 
must take aggressive action against fleets found to be violating these 
laws.
                  UNIFIED CARRIER REGISTRATION REPEAL
    Administered by the Federal and state governments through a 
partnership with the motor carrier industry, the Unified Carrier 
Registration (UCR) system imposes various taxes on motor carriers and 
distributes the resulting revenue to 41 participating states. The 
system was established in 2005 for the purpose of maintaining a single 
national register of motor carriers conducting interstate travel. 
However, the system no longer meets its original objectives and 
currently does nothing more than generate revenue for states. As a 
result, UCR is a chief example of government bloat and should be 
repealed.
    Truckers also have concerns with how the system is administered, 
starting with the inequity in the assessment of fees on motor carriers. 
The current tax structure is particularly burdensome and costly for 
single truck operators or small fleet carriers, who are assessed 
disproportionately higher fees than their larger competitors. In 
addition to concerns about inequality, the system lacks the 
transparency and accountability to merit the trust and support of motor 
carriers and Congress. Because oversight of the system is practically 
non-existent, lucrative contracts for services have been doled out with 
little to no competition or transparency.
    In fact, transparency throughout the program is severely lacking. 
Often, it is difficult to determine precisely what programs UCR taxes 
are supporting within participating states. Many states use UCR revenue 
as a non-federal match for Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program 
(MCSAP) funding, which is devoted primarily to enforcement. 
Essentially, these states are utilizing a federally-authorized tax on 
motor carriers to leverage additional Federal funding for the policing 
of truckers. Rather than returning surplus funds to the depository, 
several `donor states' are currently flouting the UCR agreement and 
keeping revenues that exceed their entitlement in state coffers.
                              HAIR TESTING
    No one better understands the critical role that drug and alcohol 
testing fulfills in keeping America's highways safe than OOIDA members. 
However, there are still significant debates and unanswered questions 
concerning the use of hair testing. We do know hair testing can lead to 
false positives because of environmental contamination and the 
interference of cosmetic treatment on the analysis of hair.
    Variances in hair types have also posed difficulties in 
standardizing drug testing. Hair shape, size, color, texture, 
formation, and other qualities varies by race, sex, age, and position 
on the scalp. Not surprisingly, all these limitations have led to 
discriminatory employment practices. There is no shortage of research 
illustrating these concerns and that is why the Department of Health 
and Human Services (HHS) refrained from mandating hair testing in their 
2020 proposed guidelines. OOIDA remains opposed to any sort of hair 
testing mandate that would be initiated by Congress or HHS.
       CRITICAL ISSUES OUTSIDE THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMITTEE
                             TRUCK PARKING
    OOIDA will not support surface transportation reauthorization that 
fails to dedicate Federal funding exclusively for the expansion of 
truck parking capacity. Specifically, truckers favor solutions included 
in the Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act, H.R. 1659. This bipartisan 
legislation enjoys universal industry and stakeholder support.
    Alleviating the truck parking shortage has been the top safety 
concern for American truckers for decades. Members of Congress from 
every corner of the country and across the political spectrum have 
supported this legislation over the years because they understand the 
truck parking crisis is negatively affecting their constituents who 
make a living behind the wheel. With research indicating there is a 
single parking spot available for every 11 trucks on the road, the lack 
of available spaces is forcing truckers to choose between parking in a 
potentially unsafe location, such as a highway shoulder, or continuing 
to drive while they feel fatigued or are out of available driving hours 
under federally-mandated HOS regulations. Increasingly, these factors 
are also negatively affecting the safety of the driving public.
    The current highway bill increased spending on things like CMV 
regulatory enforcement, created new uses of funds from the Highway 
Trust Fund (HTF) for water infrastructure projects, vegetation 
management, and other non-road projects, and authorized $800 million 
for a new bike lane program, as well as a new program to promote 
``pollinator management'' along highways. At the same time, Congress--
specifically the Senate--failed to prioritize or dedicate funding for 
truck parking.
    Somehow, after nearly a decade of unified advocacy, the trucking 
industry still finds itself pleading for help and feeling anxious that 
the Senate may again fail to act. Frankly, truckers are sick and tired 
of some lawmakers ignoring their pressing safety needs while funding 
other pet projects, and rest assured, they will be watching closely to 
see if Washington finally delivers. If the next surface transportation 
reauthorization fails to provide dedicated funding for truck parking, 
but authorizes even a single penny of funding for new initiatives, 
OOIDA will use every tool it has to ensure the legislation is defeated.
                        SIZE & WEIGHT INCREASES
    OOIDA opposes controversial proposals to increase the size and 
weight of CMVs, which would reduce safety and adversely impact small 
trucking businesses. In fact, allowing bigger and heavier trucks on our 
roads would only benefit shippers and a handful of large corporate 
motor carriers.
    These proposals would pressure small trucking businesses to 
increase their hauling capacity to stay competitive. Unlike large 
carriers, who could transition their fleets over time while maintaining 
business, smaller trucking companies and owner-operators would be 
forced to immediately modify their equipment at great cost just to 
remain viable. Unfortunately, previous weight increases have 
demonstrated heavier trucks don't lead to better compensation for 
professional drivers, as some proponents have mistakenly claimed.
    We remind lawmakers that earlier this year, one of the Nation's 
largest retail businesses admitted before a House Committee that they 
would not pay truckers a penny more for hauling additional freight. 
Considering these factors, increasing size and weight is all cost and 
no benefit for truckers. Additionally, there is currently an excess of 
trucking capacity, and motor carriers remain more than capable of 
meeting the Nation's ongoing transportation needs.
    Congress must also reject efforts to allow commodity-specific 
exemptions, especially for the movement of electric vehicles (EV). 
Providing preferential treatment to EV manufacturers would create a 
scenario in which heavier auto transporters inflict greater damage to 
our roads, while the owners of the EVs being hauled will pay NO fees to 
maintain our infrastructure. Truckers see these proposals for the scams 
they are and implore the Committee to reject policies that benefit EV 
manufacturers and owners at a cost to small trucking businesses. Rather 
than providing favors to select entities in our industry, Congress 
should instead focus on policies that improve conditions for trucking 
operations of all sizes.
            INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS & WORKER CLASSIFICATION
    Some trade associations and large motor carriers have claimed 
independent contractors in trucking are threatened by the Department of 
Labor's (DOL) 2024 worker classification rule, and that this rule 
presents safety issues for truckers and the public. This is patently 
false.
    To set the record straight, the 2024 rule has not jeopardized or 
limited any of our 150,000 members' ability to utilize the independent 
contractor model as owner-operators, and claims that this rule must be 
changed to protect the trucking industry, public safety, or the supply 
chain are unfounded. Small-business truckers and owner-operators 
continue to have the discretion to run their business in the safest and 
most efficient way possible.
    We believe DOL's 2024 rule struck an appropriate balance for worker 
classification and eliminated a concerning provision from the 2021 rule 
that encroached on USDOT's, and this Committee's, authority. This 2021 
provision would have also allowed carriers to micromanage an owner-
operator's business.
    In its 2021 Final Rule, DOL created an exemption for ``safety'' 
requirements, clarifying that anything a carrier required in the name 
of safety could not be used as evidence that a hiring entity was 
controlling its worker. DOL specifically noted that a contractual 
requirement for an owner-operator leased to a carrier to use a speed 
limiter was ``implemented in order to comply with specific legal 
obligations and to ensure safety,'' and that this requirement wasn't 
controlling how an owner-operator chose to manage their business.
    Going further, in an opinion letter issued in conjunction with the 
Final Rule, DOL said that requiring owner-operators to use and comply 
with intrusive inward-facing cameras, monthly safety meetings, onboard 
monitoring systems, and numerous other measures were simply adhering to 
``certain rules to which the worker is already legally bound,'' and 
that they therefore aren't controlling a trucker's operation.
    Given that USDOT has never mandated these technologies or 
requirements, we believe that DOL infringed on USDOT's authority by 
determining that these measures improved safety and constitute a 
specific legal obligation. In fact, as already mentioned in this 
testimony, USDOT recently announced that it would withdraw its proposed 
speed limiter rulemaking. In its announcement, the Department even 
called speed limiters a ``safety hazard'', eliminating any argument 
that these devices should be considered safety equipment by DOL.
    We urge lawmakers to reject any proposals that are promoted under 
the guise of protecting independent contractors and be skeptical of 
legislation that would limit or conflict with this Committee's work to 
promote safety, small businesses, and the supply chain.
                GUARANTEED OVERTIME FOR EMPLOYEE DRIVERS
    An outdated exemption in the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) denies 
employee drivers guaranteed overtime pay. This policy has exacerbated 
problems the Committee has sought to address in the past, including 
detention time, driver retention, and even highway safety. S. 893, the 
Guaranteeing Overtime for Truckers (GOT Truckers) Act, would eliminate 
this exemption, finally placing a value on all of the hours a driver 
works, and help address these problems.
    First, eliminating the current exemption would force shippers, 
receivers, and others throughout the supply chain to value all of a 
driver's working hours, and in turn, reduce detention time. Drivers are 
often not paid for detention time, and even when they are, industry 
practice dictates that drivers give up two hours of their time for free 
while they wait to be loaded or unloaded. As a result, drivers work 50, 
60, and up to 70 hours in a week, with many of these hours spent 
unpaid, waiting at the loading dock. If drivers were paid overtime, 
then entities throughout the supply chain would finally have to pay 
drivers for all their hours on the clock and have an incentive to keep 
them moving.
    Eliminating the exemption would also help improve driver pay and 
retention, especially in light of the One Big Beautiful Bill (OBBB). 
OBBB exempts overtime wages from taxes, but only if these overtime 
wages are required to be paid under the FLSA. Because truck drivers are 
exempt from the FLSA overtime provision, even if they are currently 
working for a carrier that pays them overtime, they will not benefit 
from ``no taxes on OT''. Eliminating this discrepancy will put truckers 
on equal footing with most other blue-collar workers who will be 
getting tax-free overtime in the coming years. This in turn will help 
keep drivers in the industry instead of seeking a new job with better 
compensation.
    While this legislation falls outside the Committee's jurisdiction, 
we hope that you will support S. 893 to help address a number of 
related issues before the committee.

    Senator Young. Thank you for your words, Mr. Pugh.
    Mr. Ferguson, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

 STATEMENT OF FRED C. FERGUSON, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
               OFFICER, AMERICAN BUS ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Ferguson. On behalf of the American Bus Association and 
the $90 billion motor coach and group travel industry, thank 
you for your bipartisan leadership today.
    The private motor coach industry powered 40 billion 
passenger miles in 2024, led by 1,800 operators, 90 percent of 
whom are small businesses. We are the most efficient and 
sustainable form of transportation driven by equipment 
innovation and the removal of up to 35 cars per trip. We 
generated $90 billion in economic activity in 2024, and our 
industry employs more than 500,000 Americans. We moved 
approximately 10 percent of Amtrak passengers and you are going 
to be seeing motor coaches on airport tarmacs more and more as 
buses are being a viable substitute to regional jets.
    With this reach, we will be a key player in the upcoming 
mega decade of events and playing a crucial role in generating 
that $100 billion in economic activity that travel live events, 
and the sporting events will bring to the table.
    Most importantly, the Committee should view us as a 
strategic transportation reserve. We answer the call for 
natural disaster evacuations, the movement of emergency 
personnel and aid, and troop movements of the U.S. military 
when it is required. Moving to the hearing, safety is a core 
pillar of ABA and has been throughout our 99 years of 
existence. Upholding a rigorous safety ethic is part of ABA's 
code of ethics and unsatisfactory members are asked to leave 
the association.
    As Congress reauthorizes surface transportation programs, 
ABA offers five core recommendations to ensure the motor coach 
industry remains safe and competitive within the national 
transportation network.
    Number one--Hours of Service: The motor coach industry 
operates under fundamentally different service models than the 
freight sector. Passenger and group service involves unique 
scheduling, rest periods, and safety considerations. Applying a 
uniform framework does not recognize the functional differences 
of each sector, and we urge Congress to affirm the importance 
of maintaining distinct hours of service regulations.
    Number two--Minimum Insurance Requirements: ABA supports 
maintaining the current Federal minimum insurance levels. The 
motor coach industry operates under ongoing and rigorous 
Federal oversight with every company subjected to regular FMCSA 
inspections. This high level of accountability paired with 
industry-led efforts, such as the ABA Bus Industry Safety 
Council, and the Motor coach Safety Action Plan has contributed 
to a steady decline in passenger fatalities. Raising minimums 
would likely lead to reduced service availability across the 
transportation network without any clear safety benefit.
    Number three--Systems Modernization: ABA encourages 
Congress to modernize the safety measurement system and the 
compliance, safety, and accountability methodologies. The 
current data is skewed across sectors and we recommend creating 
distinct peer groups for passenger carriers and adjusting data 
models to reflect size, seasonality, and operating risks.
    Number four--The Speed Limiter: As being discussed, the 
announcement by Secretary Duffy to reconsider or withdraw the 
Speed Limiter Rule is a welcome development. We encourage the 
full withdrawal of this proposal in recognition of the motor 
coach industry's strong safety record and need for operational 
flexibility.
    Number five--Access to federally Funded Transit Facilities: 
Private motor coach operators play an essential role in 
connecting cities, particularly rural communities. We work with 
transit hubs and train service providers, as mentioned, and we 
are a major part of the Federal 5311(f) program, yet, our 
industry faces barriers accessing publicly funded facilities, 
which is a current requirement of the law. ABA calls for 
stronger enforcement of reasonable access and better 
transparency in facility use policies.
    In closing, ABA is committed to working closely with this 
subcommittee, our membership, and FMCSA to uphold the highest 
standards of safety, accessibility, and reliability in motor 
coach operations.
    I am happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Ferguson follows:]

           Prepared Statement of Fred C. Ferguson, President 
         and Chief Executive Officer, American Bus Association
    Chairman Young, Ranking Member Peters, and Members of the 
Committee:

    On behalf of the American Bus Association (ABA), I would like to 
express our sincere appreciation to you for your bipartisan leadership 
and commitment in swiftly beginning the highway reauthorization 
process. Your efforts to address our Nation's infrastructure needs are 
commendable, and we value the opportunity to engage with this committee 
on issues critical to the motorcoach industry and the broader surface 
transportation system.
    Founded in 1926, ABA is the leading national trade association 
representing the private motorcoach, charter bus, group travel, and 
tourism industries--sectors that collectively generate nearly $90 
billion in economic activity annually and employ more than 500,000 
Americans. Our members provide essential service across the intercity, 
charter, tour, and commuter markets, connecting people with places and 
supporting both mobility and economic growth in urban and rural 
communities alike.
    Beyond our commercial service, the motorcoach industry plays a 
vital role in supporting national emergency response and public service 
needs. Our vehicles and operators are regularly mobilized for natural 
disaster evacuations, the movement of emergency aid and personnel, and 
the transportation of U.S. military service members. These missions 
demonstrate the sector's logistical capacity, reliability, and 
readiness in times of crisis.
    With nearly 400 million passenger trips taken annually, the 
motorcoach industry is a critical pillar of America's transportation 
system--providing safe, affordable, and environmentally efficient 
mobility options. From small family-owned operators to national 
carriers, motorcoaches serve communities in every state, connecting 
people to work, school, healthcare, tourism, and more. Whether moving 
students, commuters, military personnel, or travelers, our industry 
ensures access where other modes often do not reach. Motorcoaches also 
complement the broader transportation network, linking seamlessly with 
airports, rail stations, transit hubs, and roadways--truly helping bind 
the Nation together.
    ABA has a long, constructive track record of engagement with the 
U.S. Department of Transportation and the Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration (FMCSA) on a wide range of issues, including vehicle and 
driver safety, regulatory compliance, emergency preparedness, and 
workforce development. We've served as a vital partner to the agency by 
offering technical expertise, surfacing operational realities, and 
creating opportunities for dialogue with motorcoach operators of all 
sizes. Through initiatives like safety councils, listening sessions, 
and training partnerships, ABA has helped bridge the gap between policy 
design and on-the-ground implementation. We look forward to continuing 
this solutions-oriented collaboration to advance thoughtful, data-
driven policymaking that supports both safety and the long-term 
sustainability of the industry.
    As Congress undertakes the important work of reauthorizing the 
Nation's surface transportation programs, ABA respectfully submits the 
following recommendations under the Senate Commerce Committee's 
jurisdiction to ensure the motorcoach industry continues to operate 
safely, efficiently, and competitively in the broader multimodal 
landscape.
    ABA Policy Priorities for Surface Transportation Reauthorization
Hours of Service (HOS)--Preserve Industry-Specific Flexibility
    The motorcoach industry operates under fundamentally different 
service models than the freight sector. Charters, tours, overnight 
trips, and intercity passenger service involve unique scheduling, rest 
periods, and safety considerations. Applying a uniform HOS framework 
across both freight and passenger sectors does not recognize the 
functional differences of each sector, and the corresponding 
operational and safety realities of passenger carriers. A one-size-
fits-all model creates unnecessary compliance burdens and scheduling 
challenges, and we urge Congress to reaffirm the importance of 
maintaining distinct, tailored Hours of Service.
Minimum Insurance Requirements--Avoid Burdensome Increases
    Raising Federal minimum liability insurance requirements would 
impose disproportionate financial strain on small and mid-sized 
operators without demonstrable improvements in safety. There are 1,800 
motorcoach operators across the country, nearly 90 percent of whom 
operate fewer than 25 coaches. Increasing insurance costs already 
present financial limitations on these small businesses, and changes to 
the minimums would likely result in reduced service across the network. 
In our view, the existing minimums already reflect appropriate levels 
for the industry, which has consistently maintained a strong safety 
record. We urge Congress to retain the current insurance thresholds and 
avoid changes that would create barriers to market entry and service 
sustainability.
    The motorcoach industry operates under a high level of regulatory 
oversight--an appropriate standard given the responsibility of 
transporting passengers safely. Every motorcoach company is subject to 
routine FMCSA inspections at least once every three years. In recent 
years, industry-led progress, including the implementation of the 
Motorcoach Safety Action Plan, broader adoption of advanced safety 
technologies, improved vetting of new entrant carriers, and expanded 
safety education and outreach efforts, has contributed to a steady 
decline in passenger fatalities (NHTSA FARS/FMCSA Large Truck and Bus 
Crash Facts, Nov. 2024--Table 28). ABA is proud to play an active role 
in national safety initiatives such as the Road to Zero Coalition and 
the U.S. DOT's National Roadway Safety Strategy--both of which reflect 
the industry's deep and ongoing commitment to safety.
    In accordance with MAP-21 directives, FMCSA and its Motor Carrier 
Safety Advisory Committee (MCSAC Task 14-2) reviewed proposals to raise 
minimum insurance liability levels. Ultimately, the agency was advised 
to pause any rulemaking on this issue pending further study (FMCSA-
2014-0211). For many motorcoach operators, insurance represents one of 
the top three cost drivers--second only to vehicle acquisition and 
personnel--making any increase in mandatory coverage levels a matter of 
serious concern.
CSA/SMS Modernization--Reflect Passenger Industry Realities
    While the motorcoach industry supports efforts to modernize FMCSA's 
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA) program and its Safety 
Measurement System (SMS), current methodologies unfairly group 
motorcoach operators with freight carriers, resulting in distorted 
performance metrics. ABA recommends that FMCSA separate motorcoach 
carriers into distinct peer groups, adjust violation weightings to 
align with passenger-sector risks, and revise data methodologies to 
accommodate small, seasonal operators. These changes would ensure a 
more accurate and equitable assessment of safety performance.
Speed Limiter Rulemaking--Avoid One-Size-Fits-All Mandates
    The speed limiter rule under consideration at FMCSA was primarily 
designed with heavy freight vehicles in mind and does not account for 
the distinct safety needs and operating conditions of motorcoaches. 
Moreover, there is no compelling reason for a nationally uniform speed 
limit for all commercial vehicles. Variations in geography, traffic 
congestion, and operational needs justify allowing companies to set 
their speed governors at different levels. The announcement by 
Secretary Duffy to reconsider or withdraw the rule is a welcome 
development. We encourage the full withdrawal of this proposal in 
recognition of the motorcoach industry's strong safety record, need for 
operational flexibility, and the adverse impact such a mandate would 
have on rural and long-distance service.
Access to Federally Funded Transit Facilities--Ensure Fairness for 
        Private Operators
    Private motorcoach operators often face challenges accessing 
federally funded public transit facilities, despite their role in 
delivering public transportation and complementing government services. 
ABA urges Congress to strengthen and enforce ``reasonable access'' 
requirements for private operators and to improve transparency around 
facility policies. Reauthorization legislation should include 
provisions that protect access and foster greater cooperation between 
public and private transportation providers.
    Given the Subcommittee's jurisdiction over the Federal Highway 
Administration, ABA urges Congress to take action to ensure that 
motorcoaches receive equitable access to HOV and bus-only lanes, as 
well as achieve toll parity with publicly funded transit vehicles. 
These policies are essential to promoting efficiency, reducing 
congestion, and leveling the playing field for private operators who 
deliver vital transportation services to millions of Americans without 
public subsidy.
Regulatory Modernization--Cut Red Tape, Improve Efficiency
    Outdated or overly complex regulatory processes continue to 
challenge motorcoach operators and impede efficient compliance. 
Reauthorization presents an opportunity to modernize vehicle inspection 
procedures, streamline commercial driver's license (CDL) testing, and 
improve FMCSA's registration and data systems. ABA supports practical 
reforms that reduce administrative burden while preserving--and in many 
cases enhancing--safety oversight.
                    Other Critical Engagement Areas
FMCSA Staffing--Rebuild the Passenger Carrier Division
    FMCSA's Passenger Carrier Division plays a vital role in industry 
oversight and stakeholder engagement. However, the division has lacked 
a permanent chief for more than three years and is severely 
understaffed, with only two remaining staff members based in Iowa. To 
restore effective communication and improve regulatory responsiveness, 
ABA urges FMCSA to prioritize appointing a permanent division chief, 
fill critical vacancies, and work collaboratively with the industry to 
identify qualified candidates. A well-staffed and engaged division is 
essential to maintaining a strong, safety-focused regulatory 
environment for motorcoach operators.
California Meal and Rest Break (MRB) Preemption--Protect National 
        Consistency
    The 2020 FMCSA determination to preempt California's meal and rest 
break rules for interstate passenger-carrying drivers was a necessary 
and appropriate action to preserve national consistency in HOS 
regulations. State-level labor rules that overlap with Federal 
regulations create confusion, compliance risks, and operational 
disruptions. ABA urges FMCSA to deny all pending waiver requests and to 
defend the 2020 determination in court. A clear and consistent Federal 
standard is essential to ensuring legal clarity and safe, efficient 
service across state lines.
English Language Proficiency (ELP) Rule--Improve Implementation
    ABA supports the intent behind the ELP rule as a safety measure, 
but its current implementation varies widely across states, creating 
confusion for both drivers and testers. Enforcement inconsistencies and 
unclear testing standards undermine both compliance and recruitment. 
ABA urges FMCSA to partner with industry on a webinar or listening 
session to clarify expectations, gather state-level feedback, and 
ensure the rule is implemented in a way that supports safety without 
worsening the national driver shortage and provides a clear path back 
for those who fall short.
    ABA is committed to working collaboratively with this subcommittee, 
the full Senate Commerce Committee, and the Federal Motor Carrier 
Safety Administration to ensure that motorcoach transportation 
continues to meet the highest standards of safety, accessibility, and 
reliability.
    We believe that a strong partnership between policymakers, 
regulators, and industry leaders is essential to advancing practical, 
data-driven solutions that reflect the unique operating realities of 
motorcoach providers. Whether it's improving regulatory clarity, 
supporting workforce development, or ensuring safe operations on the 
road, ABA is ready to provide insights and engage constructively in 
shaping the future of passenger transportation. Safety is our number 
one priority.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify. I look forward to your 
questions and to ongoing collaboration on these vital issues.

    Senator Young. Thank you, Mr. Ferguson.
    Mr. O'Brien, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

STATEMENT OF SEAN M. O'BRIEN, GENERAL PRESIDENT, INTERNATIONAL 
                    BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS

    Mr. O'Brien. Thank you very much, Chairman Young, Ranking 
Member Peters, and Members of the Committee. Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today on issues impacting the trucking 
and commercial bus industries.
    I am Sean O'Brien, General President of the International 
Brotherhood of Teamsters. The Teamsters Union represents more 
than 1.3 million workers since 1903. That is 122 years. Our 
membership includes hundreds of thousands who start their 
workday behind a steering wheel of a commercial vehicle.
    I am personally familiar with the subject of this hearing 
and not simply as general president of the Teamsters, I started 
my apprenticeship program at 18 years old in the rigging 
industry in South Boston where I was an apprentice rigger, then 
a low driver, hauled heavy equipment both interstate and 
intrastate.
    The Surface Transportation Reauthorization is an 
opportunity for bipartisan action. Together, we must create 
economic opportunity and improve the lives of millions of 
Americans. The Teamsters look forward to working closely with 
the Committee to write a bill that prioritize workers, 
prioritize public safety, and protection of jobs.
    For decades, the Teamsters have led the way in making the 
trucking industry a better and safer place to work. Teamsters' 
drivers earn wages and benefits that ensure our members can 
support their families and retire with dignity. Our union 
provides high-quality training to drivers. We regularly induct 
members into the UPS Circle of Honor and many other driver 
safety programs recognizing 25 to 30 years of safe driving 
without an accident.
    I would like to start by talking about the state of our 
industry. You have all heard about so-called ``driver 
shortage'', and I think you just heard one of my colleagues 
testify to that, we have been told we can solve this problem by 
forcing drivers to work longer hours and operate heavier 
trucks. At UPS, for example, one of our members may spend years 
working another position, another classification before a job 
operating a tractor trailer becomes available.
    Once our members do get behind the wheel, most remain in 
these good paying, reliable, and safe positions until 
retirement. At carriers like TForce and ABF, Teamsters only 
experience a 10 to 12 percent turnover ratio. Union drivers 
have the best wages, health care, and retirement securities. In 
Teamster shops, workers are incentivized to stay, so-called 
``driver shortages'' do not occur.
    To help make this a reality for more workers, the Teamsters 
urge Congress to invest in high-quality CDL training. Sadly, 
predatory CDL programs are widespread in this country. They 
take money from students who then graduate unable to pass a 
skills test or operate a vehicle safely. Teamster Locals in 20 
states certify members in the public as CDL drivers, usually at 
no cost to the students. Let us grow these programs for more 
American drivers.
    The expansion and creation of competitive grant programs 
under the DOT that are accessible at teams training would help 
significantly. Federal action is also overdue to regulate 
autonomous vehicles. Allowing the unfettered operation of AVs 
is a threat to public safety and to good paying jobs in the 
trucking industry. The Surface Reauthorization presents an 
opportunity for Congress to take decisive worker first action 
on AVs.
    I would also like to draw the subcommittee's attention to 
the growth of dangerous trucking business models. Amazon's 
trucking services are largely provided by its freight service 
partners, better known as FSPs. FSPs are contractors who, in 
turn, hire drivers. These small motor carriers exist as unique 
entities with individual DOT identification numbers.
    This means that the Government cannot connect the dots 
between individual carriers to establish a patent of unsafe 
behavior across a fleet contracted by Amazon and many others. 
This inability to trace unsafe behavior is critical when we 
know that Amazon FSP drivers were cited for violations at a 
rate of 70 times higher than UPS Teamsters.
    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration should be 
directed to collect consolidated safety metrics for companies 
using contracted fleets. They should also conduct a study on 
the safety of Amazon's local last-mile delivery service using 
vehicles under 10,000 pounds.
    The Teamsters call on the Committee to reject policies that 
would reduce safety on our roads. This would include a 
rejection of weakening hours of service regulations, or 
permitting longer, heavier trucks. Allowing corporations to 
push drivers to high levels of fatigue or to operate more 
dangerous vehicles will result in unnecessary accidents, 
injuries, and death.
    It is important that Congress is aware that one of the 
obstacles we face in providing the benefits of Teamsters' 
representation is employer abuse of labor law and refusing to 
bargain in good faith. Employers drag out negotiations for 
years and deprive workers of better wages and safer working 
conditions. This is not a bug. It is a feature in our labor 
codes.
    The Teamsters wholeheartedly endorsed the Faster Labor 
Contracts Act. This bill requires employers to bargain with 
workers within 10 days of voting to form a union.
    For the record, I want to thank Ranking Member Peters and 
Senator Moreno for their co-sponsorship of this important 
legislation.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify today. I look 
forward to your questions as well.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. O'Brien follows:]

       Prepared Statement of Sean M. O'Brien, General President, 
                 International Brotherhood of Teamsters
    Chairman Young, Ranking Member Peters, and members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on 
``Shifting Gears: Issues Impacting the Trucking and Commercial Bus 
Industries in the U.S.'' The International Brotherhood of Teamsters 
represents 1.3 million hardworking people in the United States, Canada, 
and Puerto Rico, in nearly every Congressional district, including 
hundreds of thousands of members who start their workday behind the 
steering wheel. While today I am proud to serve as the General 
President of the Teamsters Union, I also started my career as a truck 
driver, working in the rigging industry as a heavy-equipment driver in 
the Greater Boston area.
    For decades, the Teamsters have led the way in making the trucking 
industry a better, safer place to work. Thanks to strong union 
contracts, our drivers earn wages and benefits that ensure they can 
support their families and have access to a dignified retirement. In 
the sectors in which we represent drivers, our members earn wages and 
benefits significantly higher than nonunion workers, particularly in 
the Less than Truckload (LTL) sector. For example, at UPS, a typical 
package car driver working full-time in last-mile delivery brings in 
salary plus benefits with a which substantially surpass their peers at 
nonunion operators FedEx and Amazon. Our members also work safer, with 
access to both high-quality training and workplace protections and it 
is our privilege to regularly induct members into the UPS Circle of 
Honor, recognizing 25 years of driving without an accident.
    I appear before you today at a critical moment as this Committee 
and Subcommittee begin consideration of the surface transportation 
reauthorization. This legislation provides an opportunity to work on a 
bipartisan basis to improve our Nation's infrastructure, strengthen 
supply chains, create economic prosperity, and improve the lives of 
millions of Americans who drive, maintain, dispatch, and load the 
trucks that deliver goods to every corner of this Nation and sustain 
the lifeblood of American commerce.
    I call on the Committee to embrace legislative proposals that 
prioritize these workers and their labor and reject corporate schemes 
eager to make driving more dangerous, drivers more fatigued, or replace 
humans entirely with unproven technologies.
DRIVER PIPELNE
    The Teamsters have no doubt that members of this Subcommittee have 
heard and will continue to hear about the specter of a so-called driver 
shortage and the actions that Congress should take in response. 
Industry has been pushing this narrative for more than two decades, 
including the claim that the Nation is short of as many as 60,000 or 
more drivers today, and potentially hundreds of thousands in the 
future. The Teamsters continue to reject this narrative. We agree fully 
with the recent, Congressionally mandated, National Academies of 
Science study on driver compensation and driver retention which noted 
that ``the application of traditional economic principles, therefore, 
does not support assertions of persistent shortages of drivers in the 
long-distance TL sector'' and that ``what seems likely, in the 
committee's view, is that carriers in the long-distance TL sector have 
come to believe there are chronic shortages of drivers because of the 
constant need to replace them during both expansions and contractions 
of the long-distance TL sector''.\1\
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    Instead of accepting mass driver shortage narratives on their face, 
we urge subcommittee members to instead consider several key points. 
First, that claims of driver shortages are frequently accompanied by 
legislative or regulatory requests that are harmful to drivers, 
including solving ``shortages'' by requiring them to drive longer 
hours, operate heavier trucks, or by attacking key elements of labor 
law which prevent the abuse and misclassification of drivers. In this 
regard, we view shortage claims as little more than a pretext for 
actions that might otherwise draw opposition and scrutiny.
    Secondly, we continue to encourage this subcommittee and Congress 
broadly to delve further into the ``why'' of large carriers and their 
representatives' supposed difficulties. In 2021, an average of 50,000 
Commercial Drivers Licenses (CDL) were issued each month.\2\ Yet the 
truckload sector has long reported annual turnover rates of between 80-
90 percent. While we acknowledge that long-haul truck driving is a 
challenging career that is not suitable for everyone, a turnover rate 
of such magnitude in any other industry would raise significant alarm 
bells. As we have long maintained, there are persistent and endemic 
issues in the trucking industry driving this incredible turnover, 
including low wages, exploitative contracting schemes, predatory truck 
leasing arrangements, and more. We believe these issues are worthy of 
deeper consideration, more so than proposals which would supposedly and 
paradoxically increase driver supply by making driving a more difficult 
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    Finally, our experience at Teamsters carriers like TForce, ABF, and 
UPS, as well as dozens of smaller trucking companies, offers a striking 
contrast to the turnover challenges in the truckload sector. While we 
acknowledge that there are substantial differences between truckload 
and less than truckload careers, it is still significant that we 
experience only 10-15 percent annualized turnover at Teamsters LTL 
carriers. At UPS, depending on location, an employee may spend years 
working in various positions before a position as a feeder driver, 
operating UPS tractor trailers, becomes available--at which point most 
members stay in that position until retirement. The reasons for this 
are not mysterious--as discussed above, when offered industry leading 
wages, health care, and retirement benefits, workers are incentivized 
to stay, and ``shortages'' do not occur.
    To that point, we are unsurprised by a 2019 Bureau of Labor 
Statistics report into the question of driver availability and economic 
behavior which largely concluded that the supply of drivers behaves in 
the manner a basic supply and demand model would anticipate, with 
expected responses to economic incentives. BLS stated that ``the 
overall picture is consistent with a market in which labor supply 
responds to increasing labor demand over time, and a deeper look does 
not find evidence of a secular shortage'' and further, ``Econometric 
models of in-and outmigration of drivers support this conclusion. 
Drivers with higher earnings and [better] hours [when first observed by 
the study] are less likely to leave driving [12 months later].''
    While we reject the shortage narrative, that does not mean that 
Congressional action on the driver pipeline is unwarranted. There are 
opportunities for Congress to include initiatives that are 
simultaneously pro-worker and pro-business in the upcoming 
reauthorization. For years, Congress has funded driver training though 
the Commercial Motor Vehicle Operator Safety Training (CMVOST) grant 
program. The program is small in scope--in 2024 it awarded a total of 
$3.5 million to 27 awardees, and most awards are targeted at advanced 
safety training for previously licensed drivers.\3\ However, a 
reworked/larger CMVOST, or the creation of a new competitive grant 
program dedicated to new licensure, could create significant 
opportunities for prospective drivers.
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    The need for high quality CDL training is increasingly clear as 
predatory CDL programs persist across the country. As the Commercial 
Vehicle Training Association (CVTA) stated in a recent letter to 
Secretary Duffy, ``the continued presence of non-compliant entities on 
the TPR allows these bad actors to offer substandard training services, 
resulting in students paying out-of-pocket for instruction that does 
not meet Federal standards. These students are often left unable to 
pass the CDL skills test, obtain employment, or operate safely; 
creating a significant risk to all who share the road.'' It benefits no 
one to generate ``graduates'' who can't pass a skill tests or, if they 
can, are not able to operate safely.
    Teamsters local unions in 20 states have established training 
trusts or apprenticeship programs to train and certify our members and 
other workers as CDL drivers, as well as offering training in hazmat, 
passenger, school bus and doubles/triples endorsements--all at little 
or even no cost to students. Our programs graduate CDL holders who not 
only have the actual skills needed to be safe drivers but also obtain a 
pathway to employment. We have deep interest in growing our current 
programs to reach more Americans in new locations, to expand our 
offerings in existing programs, and to graduate increased numbers of 
highly skilled drivers. The expansion and/or creation of new funding 
streams accessible to Teamsters training programs would be critical to 
this effort, and we ask for support for this initiative in the surface 
reauthorization.
    Opportunities to expand driver training programs also exist outside 
of the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration orbit. The Teamsters 
are proud to represent the affiliated Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way 
Employes (BMWED), protecting 37,000 rail workers who build, inspect, 
and maintain railroad tracks, bridges, and structures. As part of these 
responsibilities, many maintenance of way workers (MOW) are required to 
hold a CDL to operate specialized rail equipment. Our BMWED members 
report substantial bottlenecks in receiving railroad-provided training. 
To solve this issue, we strongly support explicit clarification of the 
workforce development eligibility within the Consolidated Rail 
Infrastructure and Safety Improvements (CRISI) Program to include CDL 
training programs. As labor organizations are already eligible 
recipients under CRISI, this would allow the BMWED to apply for Federal 
support to conduct training programs directly.
AUTONOMOUS VEHICLES
    With increased efforts by autonomous vehicle (AV) manufacturers to 
commercialize autonomous trucks, and examples of actual, limited, 
commercial deployments, it has never been clearer that Federal action 
is long overdue. At this hour, the sole unique responsibility that the 
Federal government places on the testing or deployment of autonomous 
vehicles is for the operator to report significant accidents via the 
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration's (NHTSA) Standing 
General Order 2021-01.
    It is incomprehensible that in the same universe in which the 
Federal government regulates the size of hazard material placards down 
to a millimeter, autonomous vehicles are permitted to freely roam the 
country without oversight. Allowing the unfettered and unregulated 
operation of autonomous vehicles--ultimately seeking to replace human 
drivers with robots--is unequivocally a threat to safety on our 
roadways and the existence of good jobs in the trucking industry. The 
surface reauthorization presents an opportunity for Congress to finally 
take decisive action on autonomous vehicles.
    This Committee has the advantage of holding jurisdiction over both 
NHTSA, responsible for vehicle manufacturing standards, and FMCSA, 
responsible for issues regarding commercial deployment and operations. 
It is essential that the reauthorization mandates the creation of a 
regulatory framework for autonomous vehicles governing aspects under 
the jurisdiction of both agencies. We call for the adoption of policies 
and other actions enumerated in the Teamsters' Autonomous Vehicle 
Federal Policy Principles.\4\
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    We urge the Committee to specifically consider the economic impacts 
of mass deployment of unregulated autonomous vehicles on your 
constituents. The single most common occupation for men in the United 
States without a college degree is driver/sales workers and truck 
drivers.\5\
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    Industry talking points on ``fostering innovation'' and ``competing 
with foreign adversaries'' falls on deaf ears for the millions of 
Americans the AV industry seeks to automate out of a job. Among other 
efforts, the Subcommittee should consider enacting workforce 
recommendations made by the Department of Transportation's Transforming 
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    While certain regulatory responsibilities concerning autonomous 
vehicles clearly rest with the Federal government, the subcommittee 
should not pursue legislative efforts that seek to preempt states from 
exercising their existing authorities to oversee autonomous vehicles. 
Particularly as it relates to the terms and permissibility of operating 
within states without the presence of human drivers, and the collection 
of data to inform states' decision-making. We commend every member of 
this subcommittee for their recent vote to strike a restriction on 
state action on artificial intelligence from the reconciliation bill.
PREDATORY MODELS
    As the Subcommittee considers how to best promote safety in modern-
day trucking, it must act on the growth of novel corporate arrangements 
that render existing safety and accountability metrics ineffective. We 
draw the Subcommittee's attention to the trucking practices of Amazon.
    Much of Amazon's trucking services are provided by its Freight 
Service Partners (FSP). These are contractors to Amazon who in turn use 
drivers to haul Amazon products. However, these individual motor 
carriers, many of which are small operations of only a few drivers, 
exist as unique entities with individual Department of Transportation 
(DOT) identification numbers under FMCSA's Compliance, Safety, 
Accountability (CSA) program, and subject to related enforcement 
actions through the Safety Fitness Determination (SFD) rating system.
    The resulting effect of this model is that the safety behavior and 
metrics of the contracted carrier reflects only the performance of that 
individual carrier, not the parent organization impelling these fleets 
en masse. FMCSA lacks the ability to connect the dots between 
individual carriers or establish a pattern of unsafe behavior across 
the contracted fleet. This practice of devolving responsibility has 
come with tragic results--a 2022 Wall Street Journal investigation 
found that trucking companies hauling freight for Amazon have been 
involved in crashes that killed more than 75 people since 2015. The 
investigation further revealed that some carriers were found to be 
operating despite FMCSA Out of Service Orders; were rehired after 
significant violations; and that FSP drivers were cited for violations 
at a rate 70 times higher than UPS Teamsters drivers.\7\
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    While the use of contracting and freight brokerages are a 
fundamental component of the trucking industry, the use of contracting 
for the express purposes of avoiding safety responsibility should not 
be permitted. To address this scourge, FMCSA should be directed to 
amend the CSA program to collect comprehensive safety metrics for 
entities making use of large numbers of contracted fleets, which would 
be inclusive of the safety performance of all contracted carriers. This 
would permit FMCSA to take relevant enforcement action in response to 
such arraignments.
    Similarly, we note that Amazon performs most of its local last-mile 
delivery service using vehicles under 10,001 GVWR, unlike the package 
cars deployed by UPS. Critically, this also means that because these 
vehicles are generally not classified as commercial motor vehicles 
because of their weight, they fall outside the scope of FMCSA's safety 
authority, once again putting Federal regulators in the dark regarding 
their safety performance. To better understand the safety risks 
presented by these operations, the committee should require that FMCSA, 
in conjunction with safety research organizations and the Motor Carrier 
Safety Advisory Committee conduct a study on the safety of such 
operations and risks presented by their unregulated status and make 
recommendations to Congress.
SAFETY ISSUES
    As discussed previously, it is imperative that the surface 
reauthorization legislation does not reduce safety on our roadways and 
for our members.
    The Teamsters oppose efforts to water down critical Hours of 
Service (HOS) regulations, including increasing drive or duty time 
windows, or providing unwarranted HOS flexibility. The DOT has 
previously identified that fatigue is a contributing factor in at least 
13 percent of large truck crashes, and fatigue is tragically endemic to 
the industry.\8\ Allowing corporations to further push drivers to 
dangerous levels of fatigue is a proposal that can only result in 
unnecessary accidents, injuries, and deaths.
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    We also strenuously oppose efforts to raise maximum truck length 
and weight. While we appreciate that these items are bifurcated between 
this committee (length) and the Committee on Environment and Public 
Works (weight), we call on members to oppose any changes within this 
committee's jurisdiction, and in the reauthorization writ large. 
Research, including the 2019 Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits 
Study and recent studies concerning the impacts of larger trucks on 
bridge infrastructure, make clear that increasing truck size and weight 
is a clear threat to safety.\9\ Our members continue to report that 
heavier vehicles present operational difficulties such as controlling 
brake distance and maneuvering in congested traffic conditions. Our 
members also report that these larger trucks are more likely to 
overturn. These proposals are also strenuously opposed by the Teamsters 
Law Enforcement League, representing law enforcement and first 
responders across the country, based on their experiences dealing with 
overweight trucks in the states in which they are currently permitted.
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DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING
    The Teamsters Union remains committed to compliance with DOT's drug 
and alcohol testing requirements, as informed by the Department of 
Health and Human Services' (HHS) Mandatory Guidelines for Federal 
Workplace Drug Testing Programs. We acknowledge that HHS has failed to 
date to complete scientific and technical guidelines for hair follicle 
testing as a method of detecting the use of a controlled substance for 
purposes of DOT testing.
    However, we are deeply disturbed by, and strongly opposed to, 
proposals seeking to skirt the statutory frameworks for DOT testing and 
guarantees that have been in place for almost 30 years. Specifically, 
any effort permitting the use of privately tested hair follicle samples 
to satisfy DOT panel tests and/or uploads to FMCSA's Drug and Alcohol 
Clearinghouse must be rejected.
    Congress must continue to entrust the scientific professionals at 
HHS to determine whether mandatory guidelines for the use of a sample 
can be developed in a manner that satisfies scientific and due process 
concerns. In lieu of this, no legislative action should be taken.
CABOTAGE
    Since the adoption of NAFTA, Mexico-domiciled motor carriers have 
been prohibited from engaging in U.S. point-to-point (domestic) 
transportation within the United States.\10\ Despite this, recent 
research conducted by the Teamsters into issues surrounding cross-
border trucking networks in California revealed a concerning prevalence 
of illegal cabotage operations by these motor carriers. We encourage 
the Committee to direct FMCSA to conduct an analysis of the scope of 
current cabotage violations, and work in concert with relevant law 
enforcement agencies to curtail these operations.
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LABOR STANDARDS
    While outside the jurisdiction of the Committee, it is important 
that Congress broadly is aware that one of largest impediments the 
Teamsters face in providing the benefits of Teamsters representation to 
more drivers is the ability for corporations, including trucking 
companies, to abuse existing labor law and refuse to bargain in good 
faith with newly organized workers. Too often we have witnessed 
employers dragging out negotiations to deny workers from securing the 
wages and conditions they deserve indefinitely. This is a feature, not 
a bug, in our current labor codes. For this reason, we urgently express 
our strong support for the Faster Labor Contracts Act, which would 
require employers to collectively bargain with newly organized workers 
within 10 days of voting to form their union. We thank Ranking Member 
Peters and Senator Moreno for their co-sponsorship of this essential 
legislation.
    The International Brotherhood of Teamsters thanks the Subcommittee 
for the opportunity to testify today. We look forward to continuing to 
work together on a bipartisan basis on the upcoming surface 
transportation reauthorization.

    Senator Young. Thank you, Mr. O'Brien.
    We are now going to turn to member questions, and I will 
begin. I will begin with the Drive Safe Act. We have had some 
of our witnesses mention this legislation, now law. This is 
something, an issue I encountered. And I do think there are 
labor shortages as it relates to drivers of large trucks in 
this country, and I have encountered it throughout the State of 
Indiana.
    I would travel around Indiana where--right next to some 
major metropolitan areas in other states. Next to Lawrenceburg, 
Indiana, is Cincinnati, next to New Albany and Jeffersonville, 
Indiana, is Louisville, Kentucky, next to East Chicago, and 
Gary, and Chicago, Illinois, and in each of these locations, I 
discovered that there were trucking companies attempting to 
move things, not only within Indiana, they had great facility 
to do that and had enough drivers because drivers could be 18 
if delivering things within Indiana. But to go across state 
lines, you have to be 21.
    That struck me as someone who believes in the power of 
markets, as absolutely absurd. I looked in the Constitution, it 
does still say that our job is to facilitate interstate 
commerce, and so I began working on this with all sorts of 
stakeholders here. And we finally got this signed into law 
after working on it for a number of years.
    And case closed, right? No, that is not how it works. We 
had some real challenges with implementation with the last 
administration. The Biden administration imposed a number of 
additional burdensome requirements going well beyond 
congressional intent, and it has severely hampered 
implementation and participation.
    So we are going to give this another shot, but we want to 
do so in an informed way. So Mr. Spear, from your perspective 
at ATA, if implemented as Congress intended, how would this 
program help to bring younger qualified drivers into the 
industry?
    Mr. Spear. We are going to utilize that interstate commerce 
element that you mentioned, which is--and you are full right to 
emphasize--49 states, 49 states have legislation on the books 
allowing an 18-year-old to drive. Now, a little short drive in 
Indiana, in California, Texas, you can get a pretty good clip 
in, right? So there are no training standards, there are no 
performance metrics attached to any of that.
    What you did in this pilot program, and at the time, Chair 
Cantwell, agreed to a national pilot program to bring 3,000 of 
these 18-, 19-, 20-year-olds in and properly teach them how to 
safely and responsibly drive. OK. I think we would all agree on 
that, training is key. None of the 49 states have that. Your 
pilot program that was enacted has 400 hours of training of 
which you have to have a supervised driver, experienced driver 
in the cab with you, it has 14 metrics attached to it.
    This is a step toward safety unlike the 49 states, not a 
step away. The reason that it got poor attendance is because 
the last administration put a whole number of requirements into 
the pilot that you didn't authorize, including inward-facing 
cameras. OK?
    You already have supervision with the experienced driver in 
the cab. So I know you and I have some differences, Navy, Army, 
the Army. I was just down in Benning last Friday, my son is 
commissioned as a captain, he is a company commander, 236 18-
19-year-olds preparing to be infantrymen.
    Senator Young. Yes.
    Mr. Spear. OK. They are going to go do the unthinkable. 
Hopefully they don't, but if they have to, they are trained to 
be the best. If we can do that for 18- and 20-year-olds, I am 
pretty sure we can teach them how to cross state lines in a 
class A.
    Senator Young. Yes. So you know, it is an interesting 
factoid that the 18 to 21 cohort actually has lower insurance 
rates than slightly over 21 for whatever anomalous reason. So 
it might suggest--I am speculating here--that that group who is 
motivated at the age of, say, 19 to get this sort of training 
is self-selecting, right? They are very motivated, very 
conscientious and thus on balance, may be safer, maybe even 
safer.
    Mr. Spear. And Mr. Chairman, I would also say----
    Senator Young. But nonetheless, we baked 400 additional 
hours in. We are going to get it right this time.
    I am going to move on to Mr. Pugh because I did indicate in 
good faith that I wanted to continue soliciting feedback from 
others. And I know--I believe from your comments you have 
expressed some reservations, Mr. Pugh, about the experience of 
these drivers and the potential of driving into new terrain. So 
I will give you an opportunity. Do you believe that the 
requirements related to complete performance benchmarks for 
driving in different areas and at different times of the day 
including on the interstate, in city traffic, on rural two 
lanes, and evening driving are unsatisfactory?
    Mr. Pugh. I think that we need a pathway for 18 to 21 years 
old to drive truck. I was an 18-year-old, and went in the 
United States Army and drove a truck. That was my pathway. I 
went to the Service, got my CDL, and started driving at 21. I 
do also think at 18 to 21 years old, I did a lot of dumb 
things. Even when I was in the Military, and you have oversight 
when you are in the Military, there are other people there to 
guide you, you know.
    But with that also being said, I think what we have to 
think about here is how we do this. Because even with 400 hours 
of training, and say you drive around the State of Indiana, or 
the State of Florida, what happens when you go to the Rocky 
Mountains and you have never seen the Rocky Mountains, or in 
the Appalachian Mountains.
    I think a much safer, better way to handle this, and I 
agree with you, it makes no sense that a kid who lives, say, in 
Louisville, Kentucky, can't just cross the state line, or a kid 
in Indianapolis can't go maybe to Chicago. You know, I 
understand what you are saying, go to Gary, but he can't cross 
to Chicago.
    I think what we should think about is 150 air mile radiuses 
like we do in agricultural and the short haul. That way, these 
kids who are from 18 to 21 years old, they learn how to operate 
this equipment in these trucks in areas that they know where 
they are from, and they know where they are.
    As far as inward-facing cameras, I don't think that has 
anything to do with it, because it is funny that we don't want 
inward-facing cameras for young kids that are 18 to 21, but we 
want to have them in this new Independent Contractor Law for 
owner operators who probably have 20 or 30 years experience. 
That is OK.
    Senator Young. All right. Thank you, sir. Thanks for your 
comments. We will continue to work on this. We want to--we want 
to get this thing right.
    So I will recognize Mr. Peters for some questions.
    Then we will move to Chairman Cruz who just joined us.
    Senator Peters. Well, thank you Mr. Chairman. My first 
question is for both Mr. Spear as well as Mr. O'Brien. I have 
long been a champion of the safety benefits of autonomous 
vehicle technology and what it could offer to the 
transportation system if they are deployed responsibly and 
transparently.
    In your testimony, both of you mentioned the need for a 
Federal Policy Framework for autonomous vehicles to set the 
rules for the road. Mr. O'Brien, you brought it up in your 
opening comments as well. I agree that we need action in this 
space, but to do that, we are going to need to make sure that 
we are meeting the needs of workers, of innovators, and 
Americans who expect safe roads.
    So my question for both of you is: Can each of you please 
expand on, perhaps, the top two or three principles that you 
believe must be addressed by Congress or regulators in a 
Federal Autonomous Vehicle Framework?
    Mr. O'Brien, would you kick that off, please?
    Mr. O'Brien. Yes, I appreciate this opportunity. Our 
biggest fight whenever we go to the bargaining table with any 
and all industries is automation. Automation is a real threat 
to American jobs, and we feel strongly that the biggest threat 
to the trucking industry is autonomous commercial vehicles not 
requiring human operators.
    So that is a priority to make certain that we have human 
operators in these vehicles. And I know some people think it is 
not coming for a long time, but either way, whether it comes 
tomorrow or 20 years from now, we have to be prepared. And 
protecting good middle-class jobs is important.
    You know, I think there was a statistic set out here today, 
3.5 million drivers right now. Well, if we replace 3.5 million 
drivers, where do they go, and what do they do? And more 
importantly, it is a public safety issue. We have talked to 
many law enforcement groups regarding their concerns regarding 
autonomous commercial vehicles. And it is a real concern if you 
have a family of four driving down the road.
    Right now the best computer and the best reaction is a 
human operator. And we have all seen how in certain situations 
where technology has failed in testing of such vehicles with 
autonomous drivers. And last, we talk about all this investment 
that we make in infrastructure. And if we allow autonomous 
vehicles to be heavier, longer, and no requirement, or expand 
requirements of when they can travel on the roads that is going 
to be a detrimental effect to bridges, roads--bridges, off-
ramps, and roads moving forward. So we think those are the top 
three threats.
    More importantly, it is the jobs. Where do we put these 
people that have depended upon driving commercial vehicles, 
providing goods and services to this country? And I think there 
is no better example than what we went through during the 
pandemic where truck drivers, regardless of whether you were 
union, a non-union, or independent, we were all looked upon as 
essential workers providing goods and services to this country.
    And we are not assets. We are human beings that provided 
these goods and services so that this country could keep 
moving. And I think we should be appreciated, not forgotten. 
And the investment should be made to protect these jobs, not 
replace them.
    Senator Peters. Very good. Mr. Spear?
    Mr. Spear. Yes. I think Ranking Member know full well there 
are five levels of automation. The first four require a driver, 
you know, engaged in the operation of the commercial vehicle. 
Level five is driverless. We are a long ways from deploying 
that widespread. We are going to see some, you know, operations 
down in the Southwest where it makes sense. You know, the 
weather is accommodating for that sort of activity, maybe not 
so much in Wyoming, Nebraska where I am from.
    So you know, you are going to see this crop up. But I think 
to point out, the levels one through four really improve safety 
performance, not just for the company and the driver, but for 
the motoring public. There are some really good elements of 
technology that we need to continue to foster. Level five, 
before we even get to that, I think is important.
    This also comes down to the driver shortage. If you believe 
it or you don't believe it, it is a fact. It is a fact. We 
watch it nationwide. We have the largest number of drivers 
under our membership. We know the demand for these drivers. And 
if there is a shortage, the inclusion of such technology, even 
if it is level five, is not going to be displacing anyone's 
jobs. So this is a red herring. It is--it is a baseless threat 
that I don't believe in, and our industry has proven that.
    Last thing, in terms of automation, the modes are 
intermodal now. In my industry includes all ports. We support 
them, rail, we are locked arms now. The automation of the 
ports, if you looked at the ILA negotiations that just happened 
for the East Coast and Gulf Coast Ports and include the ILW on 
the West Coast, 65 ports in the United States and not one of 
them ranks in the top 50 in the world for productivity, 
efficiency.
    We cannot compete. We cannot get the throughput that the 
President wants in and out of these ports if we don't utilize 
technology. And you can do it without displacing union jobs. So 
we need both, is the point.
    Senator Peters. Very good. I know I am low on time, but Mr. 
Chairman has granted one additional question, which I 
appreciate.
    For Mr. O'Brien, and your testimony, you describe a 
shipping model currently being utilized by Amazon that creates 
avenues for avoiding accountability at FMCSA. I have raised 
similar concerns with the National Labor Relations Board 
regarding reports of Amazon retaliating against unionization 
activities by delivery service partners.
    Just a quick question, given recent changes, what are the 
difficulties you face at the National Labor Relations Board 
which have impacted your ability to either prevent or address 
instances of retaliation, or other labor abuses in the 
industry?
    Mr. O'Brien. Well, I think the National Labor Relations 
Board, and I have had this conversation with many Democrats, 
many Republicans, and someone who organizes workers every 
single day for the last 30 years, the system is broken, and it 
has been broken for a long time. And we usually try and avoid 
the NLRB at all costs because it is antiquated, and it is also 
too long of a time-frame to get any type of resolution.
    But when you are talking about Amazon, and DSP models, and 
the FSP models, you are talking about an employer who has 
skirted obligations of direct employer in claims that they have 
nothing to do with these subcontractors, yet, they are forced 
to buy the equipment from Amazon, or lease the equipment from 
Amazon, they are forced to follow the policies and procedures, 
but they don't go on Amazon's books as it comes to recording 
safety violations or anything else. And there is proven 
statistics out there as a result of that.
    But on a bigger scale, we have been getting--we got a 
favorable decision in California regarding the DSP model under 
the current Acting General Counsel of the NLRB. But with that 
said, the bigger picture is the reason why we are working 
bipartisan to pass the Fair Labor Standards Contract to make 
organizing a choice that doesn't involve any type of 
retribution, retaliation for direct employees.
    And I think we are going to be fighting the subcontractor 
model for years to come, or independent contractor model. And 
look, we are not against anybody for being an owner operator, 
trying to be their own boss. I think, you know, that has been 
around for 30, 40, 50 years. What we are against is these 
corporations that are exploiting workers through a scam system 
that doesn't provide good opportunity, that has 150 percent 
turnover ratio in the industry.
    And if there is such--and my colleague talked about driver 
shortages--if there are such driver shortages or turnovers in 
industries, you have got to ask yourself, there is something 
wrong. And that is something wrong that we identify with, is 
not being a direct employee, not having the rights to 
collectively bargain----
    Senator Young. We are going to move on.
    Mr. O'Brien.--not having the best benefits in the industry.
    Senator Peters. All right. Thank you.
    Senator Young. Thank you. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. O'Brien. Yes.
    Senator Young. Senator Cruz, you are recognized.

                  STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ, 
                    U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS

    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to each of 
the witnesses for being here.
    I want to go back, Mr. Spear, and Mr. O'Brien, to the topic 
that Senator Peters raised, which is autonomous vehicles, which 
is obviously an incredibly important topic, one that impacts 
over three million jobs, one that impacts our economy 
profoundly.
    Mr. O'Brien, I wanted to give you an opportunity to respond 
to what Mr. Spear said particularly talking about levels one 
through four of automation and what your view and the 
Teamsters' view is on levels of automation that fall short of 
removing the driver. What is, you all, view on that?
    Mr. O'Brien. I am not familiar with one through five, what 
he is talking about, but I can talk about the threat. You know 
we talk about automation and I drove a truck my entire life. I 
drove oversized loads, I hauled heavy equipment both interstate 
and intrastate, and you know, there is no better brain--or 
better computer than your brain or your instinct.
    Now, we understand technology is coming and we are not 
trying to impede any type of technology that is going to make 
business more efficient. Our sole goal is to protect these 
jobs, and to make certain that people that don't have the 
opportunity to go to college, that don't have the opportunity 
to get high, you know, white-collar jobs have the opportunity 
in the trucking industry.
    I am a fourth-generation truck driver, and I have seen 
firsthand how important it is to maintain these jobs at the 
highest level. If we try and replace human operators with 
computers, I think one, it is going to be detrimental to 
recruiting new drivers, which further would give credibility to 
a driver shortage because the uncertainty of the industry. 
Second, again, it is going to be such a public safety risk.
    I mean, do you want your family driving in a car, a 
minivan, next to a vehicle, not being operated by a human? I 
don't. I have two boys and I, you know, would hate to think 
that they are vulnerable to a malfunction in a computer.
    And last, the infrastructure, I mean, how many times, and 
you have been around a long time, Senator, well respected, have 
you fought long and hard to improve infrastructure especially 
in your state? Now, if we allow all these autonomous vehicles 
to run wild, it is going to destroy that infrastructure that 
we, as taxpayers, have all invested in over the last several 
decades.
    And I think the most important thing, and I will say it 
again, is the jobs. Where do these people go if you eliminate 
three million jobs? And people may not think, or there is 
testimony here, it is not happening for a long time. Don't kid 
yourself. If a big tech could have this done tomorrow and these 
corporations could operate without human operators, without 
paying wages, benefits, that would happen tomorrow.
    Senator Cruz. So Mr. O'Brien, Mr. Spear, both of you all 
have called for a Federal framework for autonomous vehicles. I 
want to ask each of you, what are the most important two or 
three elements in any Federal framework? Mr. Spear, you can go 
first.
    Mr. Spear. Well, I think interstate commerce, you have got 
to protect it, we need one standard, not 50. Right now you have 
16 states that have automated vehicle laws on the books. We are 
operating, we are developing technologies that I think are 
going to, you know, really be forward-leaning in terms of 
productivity and what it can do for the supply chain in levels 
one through four.
    We are a ways out from full autonomy. You might see it, as 
I said earlier, in the Southwest, but nationwide I just don't 
see it in the near future. But to get there you have got to 
develop----
    Senator Cruz. What do you mean by ``a ways out'', how would 
you quantify that?
    Mr. Spear. I would say probably 10, 15 years out. But it is 
always described as threat to jobs, threat to jobs. I go back 
to the ports example, 65 ports in this country, not one of them 
ranks in the top 50 for efficiency and productivity. This 
President wants to take things to a whole another level. To 
grow this economy, we are going to need both jobs and autonomy.
    We are going to need technologies to get that throughput in 
and out of those ports and on our roads to where it needs to 
go. You are going to need both those hardworking union jobs, 
and you are going to need technology to assist them. This is 
assuming the economy remains stagnant that we have got to wrap 
our--you know, bubble wrap around all these jobs to protect 
them. No, we don't. They are going to be there. We need more 
throughput to grow the economy, we are just not going to be 
able to do it by adding more people. You are going to have to 
add technology to get efficiency. It is that simple. You need 
both.
    Senator Cruz. So Mr. O'Brien, top two or three elements in 
a Federal Framework for AVs?
    Mr. O'Brien. We need human operators in these vehicles. And 
if it is true what he is saying, if you are going to replace a 
human operator in a commercial vehicle, where does that person 
go? Where has that job gone? And I am all for efficiencies. I 
don't think--I don't want you to think that we are not for 
efficiencies. I am familiar with the ILA Agreement on the East 
Coast. I sit on the Port Authority Board at the Massachusetts 
Port Authority, which you know, as well.
    But there are efficiencies built in there, but there is 
also job protection as a result of implementation of this 
technology which further gives credibility on, when you sit 
down and negotiate a collective bargain agreement you can 
embrace the technology and also the efficiencies, but you also 
can protect and create new jobs as a result of this technology. 
So I think second priority be, upon implementation, you create 
opportunities and jobs as a result of this technology.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you. OK. Final question, Mr. Spear, the 
Texas Department of Public Safety has reported that you can buy 
a Mexican CDL for as little as $2,500. Fraudulent licenses mean 
we don't know if these drivers are qualified to be on the road. 
What should Congress do to make sure that only qualified, 
properly vetted drivers are operating on our roads?
    Mr. Spear. Well, I think--you are absolutely right and it 
is happening, and it is a big problem. We talked about English 
language proficiency, making certain that they can communicate 
in the English language. That is critical. People out there 
taking advantage of B-1 drivers coming in, drop a load, they 
are using them for weeks to move freight in the United States. 
That is illegal. It is called cabotage.
    You can buy illegal CDLs, you know, on the corner. This is 
not uncommon. We need Federal enforcement, we need to work with 
state enforcement and local to understand those credentials and 
take these drivers off the road. They have no business being 
out there. We have seen foreign drivers that don't speak 
English, that are having no insurance whatsoever and operating 
shoddy equipment out there. That is the kind of riffraff we 
need to get out. That is not the image any of us want. OK? We 
are very proud of our industries and what we do, but that kind 
of thing happens and there is an accident that is not a 
reflection of our efforts. We need good coordination with our 
Federal regulators to ensure that these folks are taken off the 
road.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you.
    Senator Young. OK. I am going to recognize Senator Moreno 
for questions. Senator.

               STATEMENT OF HON. BERNIE MORENO, 
                     U.S. SENATOR FROM OHIO

    Senator Moreno. Thank you, Mr. Chairman for doing this 
hearing. I thought maybe Mr. O'Brien, I will start with you. 
There is some conversation about tariffs, not that this is a 
hearing about tariffs, but let us say that real quick. You 
care. I think when I look in your eyes and I have met with you, 
you actually care deeply about making certain that we have a 
growing, thriving middle class in this country. I mean, that is 
not an act. That is something that you believe in your heart 
and soul.
    Mr. O'Brien. Yes. I think someone referred to me as a--hold 
on--as a ``self-promoting union boss'' in one of their 
articles. But I am not a self-promoting union boss. I am a 
truck driver from a middle-class family that appreciates and 
embraces the preservation of the middle class.
    Senator Moreno. Right. So when we think about tariffs, we 
can go out and find the cheapest labor on earth, slave wages in 
China, massively subsidized industries, and there is this 
mentality that somehow tariffs are bad for America, when in 
reality, wouldn't you say that it is good to have trade 
barriers to put American workers on a level playing field with 
workers around the world?
    Mr. O'Brien. Yes. I mean, there is no secret where what our 
position is as a union on tariffs, and I know there is a 
concern with--when these tariffs are implemented, if they are 
implemented, and when they are implemented, what is that--what 
effect is that going to have on the consumer? Now, we have to 
go back in history a little bit. Remember when we had plenty of 
industry in this country where we were producing goods and 
services, where we were manufacturing steel, we were doing a 
lot of this work, and then these bad trade deals that happened 
in 1993 with NAFTA and everything else had an impact on jobs 
and they went away, and our jobs, and everything went overseas, 
and that level playing field was completely uneven to the 
American worker.
    Now, fast forward where we want to repeal a lot of these 
trade deals. We want to impose these tariffs unilaterally I 
believe to what we are paying, and what they should be paying, 
there is a concern that we are going to diminish jobs, and 
where is all this cost going to go?
    Now, we have got to take a look--there is a lot of factors 
here--we have got to take a look at excessive compensation with 
a lot of these CEOs, and these corporations, and their 
willingness to reward Wall Street instead of the people that 
work in these jobs.
    So we can have that debate as well on: Hey, you know what, 
if these tariffs come in, take a little less in your own 
pocket, stop giving more to the--to Wall Street and just reward 
your workers and don't pass this cost on the consumers. The 
fear of the unknown is what is----
    Senator Moreno. But ultimately it is important, I think I 
am hearing you say which I agree with 100 percent. I just hope 
my colleagues listen to this. Is that we want to have these 
jobs in America. That is very important, because these are good 
working-class jobs that allow a mom or a dad to be able to 
provide a living for their family, retire debt free. That is 
really important, so totally, totally with you on that one.
    Let us dig a little deeper into this English requirement. 
Now, I wasn't born in this country. My mom made me learn 
English pretty quickly. And I don't think there are a lot of 
legal immigrants that think differently than I do. They believe 
that we should assimilate, learn English, learn the language.
    But what are the implications for you and your members 
when, during the Biden years, you had ten million people come 
in this country illegally, a lot of them under the guise of 
independent contractors started becoming truck drivers? The 
giant spike that happened, these are people that spoke no 
English, had no idea of our traffic laws, and yet they were 
unleashed on our roads.
    What was it like for your members to be able to--to drive 
on the roads with people that, again, had no idea what they 
were doing, no idea about our safety requirements?
    Mr. O'Brien. Well, I think it is extremely frightening to 
be honest with you. You had a lot of trucking companies that 
were actively recruiting in foreign countries to bring people 
over here on those work visas, whatever they are called, and 
train them and put them on the roads where they are not from 
this country, they don't know this language.
    So our members are very passionate. By the way, our 
membership of 1.3 million is well representative from first-
generation immigrants who came over here the right way, who 
learned the language, learned the laws, obtained their CDLs 
properly and, you know, went to work, and everything else. But 
you know, it was frightening times and it still is. I mean, we 
heard a comment today about Mexican truck drivers coming over 
these borders and doing the cabotage. We are 100 percent in 
agreement that shouldn't be happening.
    Matter of fact, we would rather have Mexican drivers drop 
their trailers at the borders and let American companies pick 
them up and do the deliveries.
    Senator Moreno. Yes. I mean, so clearly that is something 
that should be in legislation.
    I will switch over to you, Mr. Spear, real quickly. There 
is this conversation about, you know, what is a threat to the 
trucking industry. I think we need to--maybe if you could 
briefly describe what it meant to the trucking industry to have 
the Congressional Review Act that eliminated the Advanced Car 
Truck Rule, and what that meant. Because we forget, we forget 
that that was a mere six or seven weeks ago. What would that 
have meant to the industry if we had gone through--down the 
cliff of electrification on semis?
    Mr. Spear. You would have witnessed consolidation in our 
industry that has never happened since 1980 during 
deregulation. I mean the medium and small companies, 68 percent 
of our members are less than 100 trucks, 35 percent are less 
than 25 trucks. Those companies would be gone, gone, because 
they can't have access to that kind of equipment because there 
is not enough of it under those rules. And it would be three 
and a half times more than what they pay for a brand new diesel 
today, which by the way emits 98.5 percent less than what it 
did in 1988.
    So 60 trucks today emit what one truck emitted in 1988. 
That is how far we have come. We didn't need, you know, the 
United States of California telling our industry operating in 
50 states how to work with the EPA to get clean air and water. 
We were already doing that.
    So revoking these through the CRA, you just took off one of 
the biggest threats to our industry in a matter of 8 months, 
and it is now allowing us to do a whole host of other 
constructive things such as the Safety Title. So I thank you 
for that vote.
    Senator Moreno. No, it is great. And let us talk about, so 
Mr. Pugh or Mr. Spear, if you want to answer, what does the one 
big beautiful bill and bonus appreciation mean to your 
industry? The ability to make an investment, have that, be able 
to be--depreciate; is that positive or negative for you?
    Mr. Pugh. Yes. We appreciate the big beautiful bill and 
understand that what we--what we need to see happen now 
though----
    Senator Moreno. I am talking about just the bonus 
depreciation, the ability to write off your equipment. Is that 
a net positive or net negative?
    Mr. Pugh. That is definitely a net positive to be able to 
write off equipment for sure.
    Senator Moreno. Right. So I just want to just recap real 
quick, to my Democrat colleagues, wrong on tariffs, wrong on 
immigration, wrong on EVs, and wrong on voting against the one 
big beautiful bill. And if my colleague, would you mind one 
more question as--and you wouldn't mind? OK. I always ask 
permission from my great colleague here from Nebraska.
    So one last question, Mr. Spear; what is the average age of 
the semi in America, on the road, more or less?
    Mr. Spear. Yes, we assessed that a couple years back, 
particularly in California, but nationally 53 percent of the 
commercial vehicles operating in the country are 2010 or older.
    Senator Moreno. And what level autonomy those have?
    Mr. Spear. I am sorry?
    Senator Moreno. What level autonomy do they have?
    Mr. Spear. Well, it is----
    Senator Moreno. That would be level zero. These things have 
no safety technology. They are much worse emitters of--and what 
is keeping people from buying new cars? I am going to answer my 
own question. There is Federal excise tax.
    Mr. Spear. Absolutely.
    Senator Moreno. Twelve percent. So if we can--if we can 
massively reduce the Federal excise tax and allow people to 
open the door to buying new semis, talk real briefly because I 
am wearing on the patience of my colleague on taking over 
time----
    Mr. Spear. She is still nodding so I think we are safe. But 
Senator Cantwell alluded to this in her opening statement, too. 
The added cost from the FET, the Federal excise tax, by the 
way, this dates back to the Titanic sinking. This was put in 
place by Congress, coupled with a number of other provisions 
that no longer exist, ours do, it is a 12 percent tax on trucks 
and trailers, and that is about $35,000 for both, total, each 
purchase.
    So you know, if you have got somebody out there that is 
buying, say, 1,800 new tractors, you know, for a third of their 
fleet that they turn over every year, that is $65 million. That 
is real money. So that is going to the Federal Government, not 
to them.
    So we would argue for repealing this. It was put in place 
to fund trench warfare in World War I. It is outdated. We can 
take that money. It is our money, not the governments. We can 
invest it in training, pay, equipment, get that brand new 
equipment out there and replace the old stuff. You will reduce 
emissions by 83 percent just by putting new diesels out on the 
road.
    Senator Moreno. Great. Thank you.
    Senator Young. So I recognize Senator Lujan.

               STATEMENT OF HON. BEN RAY LUJAN, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO

    Senator Lujan. Mr. Spear, just last month, I had the honor 
of meeting with the Gunter family from New Mexico. And if you 
know who this family is, you will know of the tragic loss of 
two brothers, Brad and Chad. Now, they were killed when a truck 
drove off of Interstate 40 and crashed through their blacksmith 
shop. What they shared with me is that the truck's cruise 
control was set to 65 miles per hour and the brakes were never 
applied as the truck ran into a blacksmith shop.
    Technology exists to prevent this, which makes this even 
harder. Can you explain how automatic emergency braking works 
and how it could be used to prevent tragedies like the one the 
Gunter family had to suffer, to prevent this suffering from 
happening again?
    Mr. Spear. Yes, I will. Actually this dates back to when I 
was with Hyundai Motor Company, and all the motor companies I 
was the signature for that, for Hyundai signed on voluntarily 
adopting AEB on all new models. So I am very familiar, this 
dates back to the Obama administration.
    So this technology works. It has been in place, not just in 
passenger vehicles, but in the commercial sector. I would say 
our industry is lagging a bit behind. There needs to be a lot 
more testing. This was a rule that was not removed from the 
Federal Registry for regulations, the regulatory agenda. 
Secretary Duffy kept that in place.
    So I do think there is promise there for both cars and 
trucks. I am also mindful, Senator, that two-thirds of the 
accidents that involve commercial vehicles are caused by 
passenger vehicles. So I want to be clear about that. Texting 
and speeding, they are not paying attention. They are on their 
phone. That is a problem that is not going away anytime soon.
    So here is something that--a situation where AEB can really 
play an invaluable role of saving lives and bringing down that 
fatality rate to zero.
    Senator Lujan. So Mr. Spear, are you saying that if 
vehicles had technology to prevent passenger vehicles from 
being involved in those distracted crashes that would be 
helpful here as well?
    Mr. Spear. Yes. And it goes back to the earlier discussion 
too about automated vehicles. That level one to four, there are 
telematics in there where the two are communicating with each 
other. So if you are on autopilot in the car and you are 
asleep, God forbid, or you are texting and not paying 
attention, the car is going to see the obstacle coming, whether 
it is a trailer, or a building, or what not, it is going to see 
that, it is going to apply the brakes, it is going to send off 
warnings to the driver. That is preventive. We prefer that. We 
prefer the kind of technology where the accident doesn't 
happen, where people don't get killed. And I think there is a 
lot of promise there. We should continue to invest in it.
    Senator Lujan. I appreciate you saying that. There is a 
rulemaking currently before Secretary Duffy on a piece of 
legislation that I proudly passed with Rick Scott and other 
members of this committee that would require more of this 
technology to be in vehicles across the country. So I am very 
proud to hear you say that.
    Now, with the trucking, can you tell me how you will work 
to ensure that the technology we just talked about is deployed 
in trucks as soon as possible, on the braking side?
    Mr. Spear. Well, you have got to test it. Obviously there 
is a lot of variables in terms of weight, how it is applied 
across the board, is it for new trucks, is it existing trucks, 
these are all things that--you know, you need to take a little 
bit of time before mandating something, to be sure that it 
works, and that you are getting a return on that. So you know, 
I know that there has been some opposition here to electronic 
login devices and others said that our companies work people, 
you know, for endless hours. No, they don't. No, they don't. 
That is why we have electronic login devices so they don't go 
over their period of work, that they are well-rested. OK.
    If you want to keep paper books and cheat, all right, but 
the rule that you guys passed, told DOT to do is technology 
that tracks it, it keeps them under those hours, keeps them 
safe, keeps them rested. These are good things for the motoring 
public, not just our fleets and drivers. So there are 
technologies out there that have a safety return, and that is 
your title.
    So I think this is an important discussion. You got to keep 
investing in the good technologies, test them, deploy them. I 
think the Department is very good about picking the best 
technologies that impact our industry and our safety rates.
    Senator Lujan. And that includes braking?
    Mr. Spear. Yes, that includes braking, absolutely.
    Senator Lujan. Now, on driver fatigue, Mr. O'Brien, I do 
have a question there. As we know, it is a contributing factor 
to at least 13 percent of large truck crashes, and it was 
likely a contributing factor when the truck rammed into the 
blacksmith shop of the Gunter brothers. What needs to happen to 
reduce crashes due to fatigue?
    Mr. O'Brien. Well, I think, you know, any talk of expanding 
hours of service would be detrimental and that would cause more 
collisions, more driver fatigue. But my colleague, I will agree 
that, you know, technology that is going to reduce the risk of 
certain crashes even though if a driver does fall asleep for 
fatigue, or there is something preventable that technology can 
alert to avoid it, I mean, I don't think anybody at this table 
would disagree that that is paramount to the safe operation. 
But I think any talk of expanding hours of service would be 
detrimental and be a safety concern moving forward as well.
    Senator Lujan. Appreciate that, sir. Now, last question I 
have, and I will submit the others into the record. According 
to the FMCSA report, over 60 percent of truck drivers are not 
tested for alcohol and other substances following fatal crashes 
despite an existing statute requiring carriers to do so.
    It is clear that this quote, ``self-policing policy'' is 
failing. Now, my question is, this lack of accountability which 
I would deem unacceptable, Mr. O'Brien, do you support efforts 
to ensure that all truck drivers are tested for drugs and 
alcohol following fatal crashes?
    Mr. O'Brien. 100 percent. A matter of fact, I had a 
personal experience in the City of Boston. I was working for a 
crane company, Shaughnessy & Ahearn, and a driver ran 
underneath my flat bed of my truck and he died. I immediately, 
at 22 years old, was taken from the scene and drug tested, even 
though that I was not the cause of the accident. But that is an 
example. But I think the problem is, is enforcement, 
enforcement.
    Senator Lujan. Um-hum.
    Mr. O'Brien. I mean, I don't think anybody wants anybody 
going down the road in an 80,000-pound vehicle under the 
influence of any controlled substance and/or alcohol.
    Senator Lujan. Mr. Spear, yes or no?
    Mr. Spear. Absolutely, yes. I think it is paramount. And 
will go so far to say hair testing as well.
    Senator Lujan. Yes.
    Mr. Spear. In part because you have an opioid, you know, 
plague going into every community right now. There are things 
out there with legalization recreational marijuana, we didn't 
face that 10, 20 years ago. We do now. We need more tools to 
make sure that, to Sean's point, anyone that gets behind the 
wheel of an 80,000-pound vehicle is not impaired.
    Senator Lujan. Appreciate that. Mr. Pugh, yes or no?
    Mr. Pugh. Yes, we would support--we support after--post-
crash testing for sure. But we do not support the hair testing 
because we don't feel that there is enough research or data out 
there to show that it is true, as what a urine test is. And 
also with different nationalities, different types of people, 
it doesn't always come out accurate, and there is plenty of 
proof to show that. Urine test has been working. That is what 
scientists set up years ago. That is what we should be using.
    Senator Lujan. Thank you, Mr. Pugh. And Mr. O'Brien, you 
have something else, but my time has expired. I will make sure 
that we get something----
    Mr. O'Brien. I am good. Thank you.
    Senator Lujan. OK. Very good.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Senator Young. Thank you, Mr. Lujan.
    Senator Fischer, you are recognized.

                STATEMENT OF HON. DEB FISCHER, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM NEBRASKA

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am so happy you 
are back.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Fischer. Ouch. You deserved that.
    Senator Young. OK.
    Senator Fischer. Mr. O'Brien, thank you for being here 
today. I enjoyed working with you last year on the REEF Act 
where we helped ensure that railroaders' hard-earned benefits 
were not going to be subject to sequester. That legislation, 
now law, was a prime example, I believe, of how Congress, 
industry, and labor can come together to benefit hardworking 
people. As we look forward to surface reauthorization, I hope 
we can continue in this collaborative fashion between industry 
and labor.
    You mentioned, sir, in your testimony and in earlier 
comments here today, the importance of removing predatory CDL 
training programs from the training provider registry. I know 
this is a concern that is shared by Mr. Spear and ATA, as well 
as CBTA and others.
    Mr. O'Brien, what steps do you recommend this committee 
take to improve FMCSA's oversight of the TER?
    Mr. O'Brien. Well, I think first and foremost, I think--I 
want to thank you for your hard work with our rail workers who 
obviously need CDLs outside of the FMCA, we have about 40- to 
50,000 members that fix and keep the rails moving so the trains 
can stay on them.
    But more importantly, I think we have to take a deep dive 
on all the vendors that are on the list that provide CDL 
training because there are a lot of predatory trainers out 
there that will put you through a training program where you 
are not qualified, you can't pass a skills test, and you are 
not marketable. Most of these folks are paying out of their own 
pockets to go to these schools.
    So I think eliminating the bad actors by doing some audits, 
and statistics can show that they are not performing and/or 
providing the qualified drivers necessary to keep our roads, 
the public safety--and the people safe. Now, we have 20 schools 
that we run nationwide under the Teamster umbrella, and I ran 
one of them in Boston in the late 90s where we were very 
successful in our training, and we were able to successfully 
train, but more importantly, transition people into jobs that 
actually could do the jobs because of their training, because 
of their education.
    And a lot of what we have seen over the past years are 
people coming from some of these predatory schools coming to 
our 20 training facilities who paid thousands upon thousands of 
jobs--thousands of dollars and are not qualified to do this 
job. So I think imposing and enforcing criteria and mandates 
for these predatory, and getting rid of the ones that are not 
successful or it is just a money grab.
    Senator Fischer. OK. Thank you very much. Mr. Spear, and 
Mr. Pugh, I want to thank you both for your continued support 
of my Household Goods Shipping Consumer Protection Act. The 
bill cracks down on cargo theft by giving FMCSA enforcement 
tools to protect consumers from fraud by scammers. This 
committee has unanimously advanced the bill, and I look forward 
to working with both of you to get it into law.
    On another topic, I want to discuss EVs, not all the stuff 
we have we have already gone through, so calm down. I want to 
be able to discuss with you both the Highway Trust Fund. Now 
through the--or though the fund is outside this committee's 
jurisdiction I remain concerned about its solvency, and the 
impact that insolvency would have on our entire system, 
infrastructure around this entire country.
    Though not a silver bullet we need to get electric vehicles 
paying into the fund. Currently electric vehicles don't pay a 
dime. They are heavier. They cause more damage to roadways 
without paying for the repair, for the maintenance. They impact 
new construction as well. I have legislation that requires 
electric vehicles to contribute to the Federal Highway Trust 
Fund, and I know T&I, Chair Graves in the House, has a proposal 
as well, and I appreciate his work to address this important 
issue.
    From your perspective, gentlemen, why is it important for 
EVs to contribute to the trust fund and for Congress to step up 
and address the Fund's solvency in our upcoming surface 
reauthorization?
    Mr. Spear. So you know, I am calm, now.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear. You know me better than my own staff. So I would 
just say that all users have to pay. They do. If you are on the 
roads, you are on the bridges, you should pay. EVs don't, and 
they are heavier. It is a developing technology that we need to 
capture and ensure that our roads and bridges remain a priority 
and that those using them are contributing to that.
    I think fairness and some evolution here. It has been since 
1993 since Congress has, you know, raised the fuel tax. It is 
not politically popular, I get it, on both sides of the aisle. 
We just did a Highway Bill, we took it out of general funds. 
Not a big fan of that. We do support the user fee. Why? Because 
the fuel tax is the most efficient way to pay into the trust 
fund, it is less than a penny. So we need to replace it with 
something that doesn't jack up the administration costs, like 
tolling, weight, distance tax, or even congestion pricing. We 
are talking about 20-25 percent administrative fee. We need 
that money going to roads and bridges, not getting chewed up in 
administration costs.
    So we are looking very seriously about advocating a 
registration fee that applies to everybody, trucks, cars, EVs. 
You already register your vehicle at the state DMVs. You just 
simply pay for what you normally would pay in fuel costs at the 
pump. Get rid of the gas tax, get rid of the tire tax, get rid 
of all the taxes, put it in a registration fee. You are 
probably looking at about $200 to $250 a year for a motorist. 
OK? Be more for us. That is fine. We are willing to do that. 
But for a motorist, having that spread out, too, over 12 
months, because $250 for some folks is a lot of money.
    Senator Fischer. It is. Yes.
    Mr. Spear. Spread it over 12 months so they can pay it that 
way. But that will capture everybody. It is fair. You are using 
it. You register a vehicle. There you go.
    Senator Fischer. Mr. Pugh, I would like to hear your 
thoughts as well.
    Mr. Pugh. Yes, we definitely support some sort of 
registration fee, or something, going to the Highway Trust Fund 
with electric vehicles. I mean, by all means, why shouldn't 
they pay? They use the highways and they should. We should also 
make sure we are not giving them special carve outs for hauling 
them or transporting them when they are--because they are 
heavier loads to haul and transport. We should make sure we are 
not doing that as well.
    I think what we need to do is, unfortunately, is get the 
intestinal fortitude here in Congress to raise the gas tax 
because it hasn't been raised. It does work. You pay it at the 
pump. People don't realize it. Why create anything new other 
than for these vehicles, electric vehicles, to pay a 
registration?
    Senator Fischer. Yes, I am just--I am just focused on 
capturing a user fee of some kind from EVs.
    Mr. Pugh. Yes.
    Senator Fischer. Whether they are passenger vehicles, 
trucks, whatever.
    Mr. Pugh. Correct.
    Senator Fischer. Because they pulverize a road--a road bed, 
and more so.
    Mr. Pugh. I would also think that we could put some sort of 
a collection on their pumps just like we do for fuel, but for 
electricity. We take it right there at the time.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you very much.
    And thank you, Mr. Chairman. Senator Moreno, who has 
escaped, I would like to point out that he and I are trying to 
work on something here so that we can add more revenue to the 
Highway Trust Fund. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Young. Well, thank you for your leadership on that 
issue, Senator Fischer. I would love to review that bill if I 
am not already on it.
    So, I will recognize Senator Klobuchar.

               STATEMENT OF HON. AMY KLOBUCHAR, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM MINNESOTA

    Senator Klobuchar. OK. Thank you. And I heard the beginning 
of your testimony there, Mr. Spear, when I was here earlier, 
and you were talking about cargo theft, correct? And as you 
know, we have held a hearing in this subcommittee on the 
growing threat of cargo theft often involves high value retail 
goods, but not always. One dairy protein export company in 
Minnesota has reported an average of one to three break-ins per 
month just for containers of dry milk powder. Of course 
valuable, but I don't think people probably think it is like 
jewelry or something, but this is what is going on with some of 
the food shipments.
    How can we best address this issue? And I think I will ask 
you that as well, Mr. Pugh. Thanks.
    Mr. Spear. Well, I would just say thank you for your 
leadership and co-sponsoring the CORCA Bill. You have heard two 
testimonies now in this committee as well as in Judiciary 
Committee, and we are very excited that you all are taking the 
time to really shine a spotlight on this issue. We need Federal 
leadership, in concert with state and local, and in partnership 
with our industry. We have all got to, collectively, come 
together if we are to put a stop at this practice.
    This is a lot more advanced than what we were seeing 10, 
15, 20 years ago. As long as trucks have been on the road, 
there has been theft. I mean hit-and-run type things. What we 
are seeing now is transnational organizations operating out of 
Eastern Europe, Russia. They are hacking into the bill of 
laden. Sometimes when the truck is in motion, driver sees it 
come up, the drop changes, they think it is legit because it is 
the company. By the time they drop the load and figure out what 
just happened; it is long gone.
    This is very advanced, you know, type of practices that we 
really need coordination with DHS, DOJ, with our states and 
local government, and industry.
    Senator Klobuchar. Thank you.
    Mr. Spear. So thank you for that.
    Senator Klobuchar. Thank you. Mr. Pugh.
    Mr. Pugh. Yes. And we need--FMCSA needs the power to go 
after these folks, and the oversight as well, as long as--and 
truckers need a place, and brokers as well to report these kind 
of things. We get calls on a daily basis at OOIDA where drivers 
are taking loads and they get the load, they deliver the load, 
and it is a fictitious broker, the broker is pretended to be 
someone else.
    I know brokers are dealing with the same thing with 
truckers. They get trucking companies that are getting their 
identity stolen. It is too easy for trucking companies to sell 
their identity, and it is much too easy to get into our 
industry in the first place. That is where this all starts.
    Senator Klobuchar. Yes.
    Mr. Pugh. As I have said in a past hearing, you can take 
someone off the street who has never even been in a truck or 
seen a truck, and in a month and a half they can be a full-
blown truck driver and motor carrier. That is insane. That is 
insanity. You know, to be a broker, you post a $75,000 bond and 
you are a broker.
    Senator Klobuchar. OK.
    Mr. Pugh. We have got to start at the beginning, stopping 
these folks.
    Senator Klobuchar. All right. One of the things that this 
kind of plays into is just workforce retention and supply 
chain, and that means ensuring that crucial careers like 
trucking receive good wages, my grandpa started out delivering 
and pulling a wagon, ended up as a miner. But we know, Mr. 
O'Brien, we know that unions ensure that truck driving not only 
keeps workers with good wages, but also makes it safer. Talk 
about this as the need to keep our drivers there in the long 
term.
    Mr. O'Brien. Well, I think it is continuity of the 
workforce. I mean, you take companies like UPS, where you can 
go to work as a part-timer unloading trucks at 18, you become 
21, you can go out in the road, deliver a package, your 
earnings go up, you are accruing credit for your health and 
welfare pension, and then when you get enough seniority, you 
get the ability to drive tractor trailers.
    There is a path to a career here, and that path to a career 
is your wages being the highest, you have the best health 
benefits, and have a retirement that you can retire with 
respect and dignity. You look at ABF, you look at TForce, you 
look at a lot of regional carriers that we represent, there is 
10 to 15 percent turnover ratio, not because of low wages, not 
because of benefits or anything else, and that is proven. I 
mean, we have statistics that prove it.
    And I think the higher standards that are set, especially 
working under a collective bargaining agreement, is going to 
help retain drivers. That is why it is important, and I 
mentioned earlier, we have got a bipartisan bill with Senator 
Hawley and Senator Booker, requiring the fair labor standards 
contract where you can organize without any threats of 
retribution, retaliation, and there is a mechanism to get to a 
first contract through binding arbitration.
    Senator Klobuchar. OK, very good.
    Mr. O'Brien. Thank you.
    Senator Klobuchar. Thank you. Enjoy working with you as you 
know.
    Last question, Mr. Ferguson, I weirdly just got a text from 
Charlie Zelle, you know he used to head up Jefferson Bus Line.
    Mr. Ferguson. Absolutely. He is a strong member of ours.
    Senator Klobuchar. Right. And then became the head of our 
transportation. He was transportation commissioner, did a great 
job and now at our Met Council, he is just announcing--I don't 
know--well, I will tell you about it later. OK. So the FMCSA, 
the Passenger Carrier Division, can you speak to the impact 
this was in your testimony that low staffing has on motor coach 
operators and how important this is; a different version of the 
question than Mr. O'Brien?
    Mr. Ferguson. Yes, my testimony recommends that 
prioritizing staffing at the Passenger Carrier Division is a 
huge priority.
    Senator Klobuchar. Um-hum.
    Mr. Ferguson. The interaction that our staff has with their 
staff is ongoing and daily, typically. You know, understanding 
what is the operational reality of this regulation or that new 
requirement is very helpful for the regulators to understand 
what is it like on the roads and on the ground, and vice versa, 
for us to have a better understanding of intent, desire, you 
know, outcomes. It can allow us to better communicate and share 
with our membership what is happening, what is coming, et 
cetera.
    So having more points of contact, more partners, you know, 
we host a variety of webinars, in-person safety briefings, you 
know, having speakers, engagement, that cross-coordination is a 
huge part of our success.
    Senator Klobuchar. OK. Thank you. I am done, but I will 
ask, in writing, Mr. Spear, some questions about distracted 
driving. This is a big priority of mine and really, really 
important. So maybe we can have another hearing on that at some 
point. But thank you.
    Senator Young. Senator Markey.

               STATEMENT OF HON. EDWARD MARKEY, 
                U.S. SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS

    Senator Markey. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much.
    According to CBS analysis of Federal data, Amazon's 
delivery truck contractors consistently have higher safety 
violation rates compared to the rest of the industry. From 2019 
to 2024, Amazon's contractors had a violation rate roughly 
double the industry average. Because of Amazon's nefarious 
corporate practices of misclassifying workers and shirking its 
joint employer responsibilities, Amazon itself has not been 
held accountable by regulators for the performance of its 
fleet.
    Each individual subcontracted delivery truck company faces 
consequences when something goes wrong. Companies like Amazon 
can use this subcontracting scam to wash their hands of 
responsibility for the overall performance of their operations. 
An operation the size and scale of Amazon's lacking a 
comprehensive safety record for which the company can be held 
accountable is dangerous for drivers and other motorists, and 
unfair to companies that play by the rules.
    Mr. O'Brien, do you agree that Amazon's trucking model 
shields the company from accountability for its safety record?
    Mr. O'Brien. It absolutely does.
    Senator Markey. And in your view, maybe you can expand, 
does Amazon structure its operations this way to avoid 
accountability?
    Mr. O'Brien. Yes, I testified earlier that, you know, they 
use a lot of these independent contractors, these smaller 
companies that have their own individual DOT numbers, which it 
is tough to point to saying Amazon is responsible, and Amazon 
will say, well, they are not direct employees of ours. They are 
subcontractors. So it is a--it is a game, it is a scam.
    And you look at an employer like United Parcel Service that 
is similar in nature where they have all direct employees. They 
have a proven track safety program in place, collectively, 
administered by the union and by management where we do the 
same exact work, the same neighborhoods, and we have got a 
stellar record in safety because of the training, and the 
cooperation, and the work collectively by both.
    Now if you--I will give you a prime example and everybody 
sees Amazon in their neighborhoods. If you look at an Amazon 
truck in your neighborhood delivering you look at the shape 
that that truck is in, you look at the condition it is in, and 
then you look at the condition that a UPS truck is in, that 
will tell the story right there.
    Senator Markey. Yes. And so as a result, safety just falls 
into a regulatory black hole. Who is responsible? You know, so 
that is the issue.
    Mr. Chairman, I have a letter from the Truck Safety 
Coalition that I would like to enter into the record, 
unanimously.
    Senator Young. Without objection.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    
    
    
    

    Senator Markey. Thank you. In Mr. Spear's testimony, he 
discusses at length an argument we often hear, Mr. O'Brien, 
from the trucking industry. The government should weaken safety 
regulations, such as lowering the minimum age to hold a 
commercial driver's license from 21 to 18 to address the 
trucking industry driver shortage. Trucking is a very dangerous 
industry, any argument to lower safety standards deserves close 
scrutiny.
    So let us examine the so-called ``driver shortage'', the 
word ``shortage'' implies the pool of qualified workers is too 
small. But two million people hold commercial drivers licenses 
in the United States. And hundreds of thousands more licenses 
are issued every single year. All these qualified drivers are 
competing for about 900,000 long-haul trucking jobs. And while 
there are plenty of qualified drivers available, many trucking 
companies struggle to retain these drivers.
    In fact about--this is an incredible number, 90 percent of 
truck drivers leave their job after one year, 90 percent. This 
high level of turnover suggests the issue might not be whether 
there are enough drivers, but whether existing drivers are 
getting enough out of the job.
    So before we take more actions to make trucking less safe, 
Mr. O'Brien, do you believe that a 90 percent turnover rate in 
the long-haul trucking is the sign of a healthy industry?
    Mr. O'Brien. No. I think long haul trucking is a very 
difficult job. I think we can all agree to that. It is a lot of 
time away from your family, a lot of sacrifice. But if you have 
a 90 percent turnover ratio, then there is something wrong in 
the industry. When you look at unionized carriers who have 10 
to 15 percent turnover ratio, that is significant because that 
means people are happy with their wages. They are happy with 
their benefits.
    When you have a race to the bottom and people keep leaving 
jobs after 12 months or leaving the industry, and I think the 
number we have, there is four to six million people in this 
country that hold CDL licenses and I believe 3.5 million are 
actually on the roads today. So there is definitely a breakdown 
somewhere and we know for a fact that when people aren't making 
the highest wages, when they are not getting the best benefits, 
they are not going to stay at a job.
    Senator Markey. Yes. So when wages are too low, you are 
obviously going to have massive turnover. And 90 percent 
turnover rate shows workers are not thriving. And any argument 
that says that they are is just not credible. My father was a 
truck driver, sat at our kitchen table every night, every 
morning. I am a senator, but he got paid a living wage. And so 
truck drivers are hardworking people. My father was, 61-65, and 
you can just see what that truck driver looked like. OK. It is 
a hard----
    Mr. O'Brien. They had good diners back then, sir.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Markey. Excuse me?
    Mr. O'Brien. They had good diners at the truck stops back 
then.
    Senator Markey. Yes, the times have changed and we are 
going to have to build in protections to make sure that those 
people who could put three children through college and law 
school, you know, have protections, benefits that fit the hard 
work that they put in every day.
    I thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Young. Well, thank you, Senator Markey. And thank 
you to all of our witnesses. This has really been a terrific 
hearing. We have appreciated all of your testimony.
    Senators will have until the close of business on Tuesday, 
July 29, to submit additional questions for the record and the 
witnesses will have until the close of business on Tuesday, 
August 12 to respond to those questions.
    This concludes today's hearing. The Committee stands 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:35 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]

                            A P P E N D I X

                      Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety
                                                      July 21, 2025

Hon. Todd Young, Chair,
Hon. Gary Peters, Ranking Member,
Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
Subcommittee on Surface Transportation, Freight, Pipelines, and Safety,
United States Senate,
Washington, DC.

Dear Chairman Young and Ranking Member Peters:

    Thank you for convening tomorrow's hearing, ``Shifting Gears: 
Issues Impacting the Trucking and Commercial Bus Industries in the 
U.S.'' Truck drivers and the trucking industry are critical to our 
Nation's supply chain and the movement of essential goods. Improving 
the safety of our roadways will both optimize efficiency and ensure 
that truck drivers and all road users return home to their loved ones 
after their travels. Advocates for Highway and Auto Safety (Advocates) 
respectfully requests this letter be included in the hearing record.
The Physical, Emotional and Financial Costs of Truck Crashes Are 
        Devastating
    In 2023, 5,472 people were killed and over 153,000 people were 
injured in crashes involving large trucks.\1\ Since 2009, the number of 
fatalities in large truck crashes has increased by 62 percent.\2\ In 
that same timespan, the number of people injured in crashes involving 
large trucks rose by 107 percent.\3\ In fatal two-vehicle crashes 
between a large truck and a passenger motor vehicle, 96 percent of the 
fatalities were occupants of the passenger vehicle.\4\
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    \1\ Overview 2023.
    \2\ Annual Report 2022 and Overview 2023 Note, the 62 percent 
figure represents the overall change in the number of fatalities in 
large truck involved crashes from 2009 to 2023. However, between 2015 
and 2016 there was a change in data collection at U.S. DOT that could 
affect this calculation. From 2009 to 2015 the number of fatalities in 
truck-involved crashes increased by 21 percent, and between 2016 to 
2023, it increased by 17 percent, and between 2015 and 2016, it 
increased by 14 percent.
    \3\ Annual Report 2022 and Overview 2023 Note, the 107 percent 
figure represents the overall change in the number of people injured in 
large truck involved crashes from 2009 to 2023. However, between 2015 
and 2016 there was a change in data collection at U.S. DOT that could 
affect this calculation. From 2009 to 2015 the number of people injured 
in truck-involved crashes increased by 59 percent, and between 2016 to 
2023, it increased by 14 percent, and between 2015 and 2016, it 
increased by 14 percent.
    \4\ Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), Large Trucks. 
https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/large-trucks.
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    Truck driving is identified as one of the most dangerous 
occupations in the U.S. by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.\5\ In 2023, 
961 occupants of large trucks were killed in crashes.\6\
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    \5\ National Census of Fatal Occupational Injuries in 2023, Bureau 
of Labor Statistics, Dec. 2024, USDL-24-2564, available at: https://
www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/cfoi.pdf.
    \6\ Overview 2023.
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    These devastating crashes result in long-lasting impacts which 
often are not accounted for in statistics alone. For every single death 
and serious injury, there is a horrific ripple effect forever changing 
the lives of children, parents, friends and communities.
    According to the Federal Highway Administration (FHWA), traffic 
incidents, which include crashes, are one of the seven main causes of 
traffic congestion which erodes the reliability of travel time.\7\ The 
report notes that for truck operators, ``[t]he cost of unexpected delay 
can add another 20 percent to 250 percent'' to their hourly costs.\8\ 
The cost to society from crashes involving large trucks and buses was 
estimated to be $128 billion in 2021, the latest year for which data is 
available.\9\ When adjusted solely for inflation, this figure amounts 
to over $155 billion.\10\
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    \7\ Traffic Congestion and Reliability: Trends and Advanced 
Strategies for Congestion Mitigation, March 2020, FHWA. Available here: 
https://ops.fhwa.dot.gov/congestion_report/chapter
2.htm (2020 Traffic Congestion and Reliability Report).
    \8\ 2020 Traffic Congestion and Reliability Report.
    \9\ 2023 Pocket Guide to Large Truck and Bus Statistics, FMCSA, 
Dec. 2023, RRA-23-003.
    \10\ CPI Inflation Calculator, BLS, available at https://
www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calcu
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Solutions to Improve Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety are Available and 
        Proven
    Automatic emergency braking systems (AEB): According to the 
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS), equipping large trucks 
with forward collision warning and AEB could eliminate more than two 
out of five crashes in which a large truck rear-ends another 
vehicle.\11\ In 2015, Advocates, along with the Center for Auto Safety, 
the Truck Safety Coalition (TSC) and Road Safe America, filed a 
petition with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration 
(NHTSA) seeking the issuance of a rule to require forward collision 
avoidance and mitigation braking systems (F-CAM), now more commonly 
known as AEB, on commercial motor vehicles (CMVs) with a gross vehicle 
weight rating (GVWR) of 10,000 pounds or more.\12\ The agency granted 
Advocates' petition in October 2015 but no subsequent action has been 
taken.\13\ The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) requires 
the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) to issue a Final Rule by 
November 2023 for AEB in large CMVs and the issuance of a Federal Motor 
Carrier Safety Regulation (FMCSR) to require drivers use AEB.\14\ DOT 
issued a Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM) in July 2023.\15\ 
Advocates submitted comments to the NPRM. When this Rule is completed 
and implemented, it will have a significant impact on safety and result 
in substantial reductions in highway deaths and injuries.\16\
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    \11\ IIHS, Study shows front crash prevention works for large 
trucks too, available at: https://www.iihs.org/news/detail/study-shows-
front-crash-prevention-works-for-large-trucks-too.
    \12\ Petition for Rulemaking, Feb. 19, 2015, Docket NHTSA-2015-
0099-0001.
    \13\ Grant of Petition for Rulemaking, NHTSA, 80 FR 62487, Oct. 16, 
2015.
    \14\ Id.
    \15\ 88 FR 43174, July 6, 2023.
    \16\ Id.
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    Speed limiting devices: According to the Federal Motor Carrier 
Safety Administration (FMCSA), 10,440 people were killed from 2004 to 
2013 in crashes where the speed of the CMV likely contributed to the 
severity of the crash.\17\ On average, that is over 1,000 lives lost 
annually to speeding CMVs. In September 2016, NHTSA and FMCSA issued a 
joint NPRM to require vehicles with a GVWR of more than 26,000 pounds 
to be equipped with a speed limiting device.\18\ The NPRM estimated 
that setting the device at 60 MPH has the potential to save almost 500 
lives and prevent nearly 11,000 injuries annually.\19\ Setting the 
speed at 65 MPH could save as many as 214 lives and prevent 
approximately 4,500 injuries each year.\20\ Subsequently, in May 2022, 
FMCSA issued an Advanced Notice of Supplemental Proposed 
Rulemaking.\21\ Last month, DOT announced that it was withdrawing the 
rulemaking despite research demonstrating that the technology is 
currently being used by 77 percent of trucks on the road in the United 
States.\22\ It is incumbent that the DOT restore this rulemaking or 
more lives will be needlessly lost.
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    \17\ Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards; Federal motor Carrier 
Safety Regulations; Parts and Accessories Necessary for Safe Operation; 
Speed Limiting Devices, NPRM, NHTSA AND FMCSA, 81 FR 61942, Sep. 7, 
2016. (SL 2016 NPRM).
    \18\ SL 2016 NPRM.
    \19\ SL 2016 NPRM.
    \20\ Id.
    \21\ 86 FR 26317 (May 4, 2022).
    \22\ U.S. DOT, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy Unveils 
Pro-Trucker Package as Part of President Trump's Executive Order (Jun. 
27, 2025); Preliminary Regulatory Impact Analysis (PRIA) and Initial 
Regulatory Flexibility Analysis, FMVSS No. 140, Speed Limiting Devices, 
p. 28 (NHTSA, Aug. 2016).
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    Truck parking: The lack of safe and convenient truck parking merits 
Federal action. Yet, dedicating more Federal funding to building 
parking facilities alone will likely not solve the issue. Studies have 
demonstrated that the parking shortage is often most acute in areas of 
the country, such as along the Interstate 95 corridor in the Northeast, 
where building facilities for parking may not be realistic due to costs 
and scarcity of open land.\23\ As such, along with providing funding to 
address this issue, Advocates urges policymakers to examine additional 
remedies to address this problem such as use of existing dormant 
facilities.
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    \23\ Federal Highway Administration, Commercial Motor Vehicle 
Parking Shortage (May 2012).
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    Underride guards: This critical safety equipment can prevent a 
passenger vehicle from traveling underneath a trailer during a crash. 
Yet, for decades the Federal safety standards for rear underride guards 
were woefully outdated. In 2022, NHTSA issued a Final Rule revising the 
regulations, but the performance standards for rear guards remain below 
industry standards.\24\ As such, Advocates, Truck Safety Coalition 
(TSC), Citizens for Reliable and Safe Highways (CRASH) and Parents 
Against Tired Truckers (P.A.T.T.) filed a petition for reconsideration 
which was denied by the agency in 2024.\25\
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    \24\ 87 FR 42339 (July 15, 2022)
    \25\ 89 FR 53505 (Jun. 27, 2024).
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    In the spring of 2017, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety 
(IIHS), for the first time, tested a side underride guard.\26\ The 
guard successfully prevented a vehicle from traveling underneath the 
side of a trailer at 35 miles-per-hour (MPH).\27\ In August of 2017, 
IIHS performed a second test of an underride guard at 40 MPH (the speed 
at which IIHS conducts its frontal crash tests of passenger cars) and 
once again the guard prevented underride of the vehicle.\28\ In April 
2023, NHTSA issued an Advanced Notice Proposed Rulemaking on the 
installation of side underride guards that drastically undercounted 
crashes involving underride as well as failed to properly evaluate the 
benefits from requiring this equipment on trailers and 
semitrailers.\29\ DOT must advance this rulemaking utilizing accurate 
data.
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    \26\ IIHS, Side guard on semitrailer prevents underride in 40 mph 
test (Aug. 29, 2017).
    \27\ Id.
    \28\ Id.
    \29\ 88 FR 24535 (Apr. 21, 2023).
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    Entry-level driver training: In 1991, Congress, concerned with the 
unacceptable level of truck crashes and the quality of training being 
given to commercial driver's license (CDL) applicants, directed the 
FHWA to issue a rule requiring entry-level driver training (ELDT).\30\ 
After repeated failed attempts by FMCSA to issue a rule requiring ELDT, 
the agency convened the Entry-Level Driver Training Advisory Committee 
(ELDTAC) to conduct a negotiated rulemaking in 2015.\31\ The ELDTAC 
recommended that all CDL candidates receive a minimum number of hours 
of behind-the-wheel (BTW) training.\32\ The vote was unanimous by the 
members of the Committee representing safety groups, training schools, 
the motorcoach industry and individual drivers.\33\ Consensus was 
reached by the ELDTAC regarding the BTW requirement because this 
provision ensures that candidates' training will include a minimum 
amount of time operating a vehicle. The requirement was included in the 
NPRM but excluded from the Final Rule issued in 2016.\34\ We urge 
Congress to close this glaring loophole in Federal training 
requirements for CDL candidates.
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    \30\ 72 FR 73226 (Dec. 26, 2007).
    \31\ 79 FR 49044 (Aug. 19, 2014).
    \32\ Federal Minimum Standards for CMV Entry-Level Driver Training 
Written Statement, June 5, 2015 (Final Statement).
    \33\ Id.
    \34\ 81 FR 88732 (Dec. 8, 2016).
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Weakening Essential Safety Regulations is Irreconcilable with Roadway 
        Safety
    Federal limits on the weight and size of interstate CMVs: Current 
maximum weights and lengths for CMVs aim to protect truck drivers, the 
traveling public, and our Nation's roads, bridges and other 
infrastructure components. Even with these thresholds, the American 
Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) reports ``these vital lifelines are 
frequently underfunded, and over 40 percent of the system is now in 
poor or mediocre condition.'' \35\ In their 2025 Report Card, roads 
received a grade of ``D+,'' with 39 percent in poor or mediocre 
condition.\36\ Bridges received a ``C,'' with about a third of the 
Nation's bridge inventory (221,791 spans) in need of repair 
replacement. In addition, approximately 45 percent of bridges have 
exceeded their planned design lives of 50 years.\37\ Moreover, driving 
on deteriorated and congested roads still costs the average driver over 
$1,400 per year in vehicle operating costs and lost time.\38\
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    \35\ https://infrastructurereportcard.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/
03/Full-Report-2025-Natl-IRC-WEB.pdf.
    \36\ Id.
    \37\ Id.
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    Raising truck weight or size limits could result in an increased 
prevalence and severity of crashes. Longer trucks come with operational 
difficulties such as requiring more time to pass, having larger blind 
zones, crossing into adjacent lanes, swinging into opposing lanes on 
curves and turns, and taking a longer distance to adequately brake. In 
fact, double trailer trucks have an 11 percent higher fatal crash rate 
than single trailer trucks.\39\ Overweight trucks also pose serious 
safety risk. Brake violations are a major reason for out-of-service 
violations.\40\ According to a North Carolina study by IIHS, trucks 
with out-of-service violations are 362 percent more likely to be 
involved in a crash.\41\ This is also troubling considering that 
tractor-trailers moving at 60 miles per hour are required to stop in 
310 feet--the length of a football field--once the brakes are 
applied.\42\ Actual stopping distances are often much longer due to 
driver response time before braking and the common problem that truck 
brakes are often not in adequate working condition. Moreover, 
increasing the weight of a heavy truck by only 10 percent increases 
bridge damage by 33 percent.\43\
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    \39\ An Analysis of Truck Size and Weight: Phase I--Safety, 
Multimodal Transportation & Infrastructure Consortium, November 2013; 
Memorandum from J. Matthews, Rahall Appalachian Transportation 
Institute, Sep. 29, 2014.
    \40\ Roadside Inspections, Vehicle Violations: All Trucks Roadside 
Inspections, Vehicle Violations (2019--Calendar), FMCSA.
    \41\ Teoh E, Carter D, Smith S and McCartt A, Crash risk factors 
for interstate large trucks in North Carolina, Journal of Safety 
Research (2017).
    \42\ Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Title 49 Part 571 Section 
121: Standard No. 121 Air brake systems (FMVSS 121).
    \43\ Effect of Truck Weight on Bridge network Costs, NCHRP Report 
495, National Cooperative Highway Research Program, 2003.
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    Despite claims to the contrary, bigger trucks will not result in 
fewer trucks. Following every past increase to Federal truck size and 
weight limits, the number of trucks on our roads has gone up. Since 
1982, when Congress last increased the gross vehicle weight limit, 
truck registrations have more than doubled.\44\ The U.S. DOT 
Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Study also addressed this meritless 
assertion and found that any potential mileage efficiencies from the 
use of heavier trucks would be offset in just one year.\45\
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    \44\ 2017 Annual Report.
    \45\ Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits Study, Federal 
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    There is overwhelming opposition to any increases to truck size and 
weight limits. The public, local government officials, safety, consumer 
and public health groups, law enforcement, first responders, truck 
drivers and labor representatives, families of truck crash victims and 
survivors, and even Congress on a bipartisan level have all rejected 
attempts to increase truck size and weight limits. Also, the technical 
reports released in June 2015 from the U.S. DOT Comprehensive Truck 
Size and Weight Study concluded there is a ``profound'' lack of data 
from which to quantify the safety impact of larger or heavier trucks 
and consequently recommended that no changes in the relevant truck size 
and weight laws and regulations be considered until data limitations 
are overcome.\46\
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    \46\ Comprehensive Truck Size and Weight Limits Study, Federal 
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    We urge Congress to oppose any increases to Federal truck size and 
weight limits, including mandating pilot programs, measures specific to 
certain products, and state or industry specific exemptions. These 
endless exemptions undermine a critical Federal safety regulation, 
needlessly jeopardize public safety and present unnecessary obstacles 
for enforcement.
    Minimum age requirements for interstate truck drivers: CMV drivers 
under the age of 19 are four times more likely to be involved in fatal 
crashes, as compared to CMV drivers who are 21 years of age and older, 
and CMV drivers ages 19-20 are six times more likely to be involved in 
fatal crashes (compared to CMV drivers 21 years and older).\47\ Yet, 
some segments of the trucking industry have been pushing to allow 
teenagers to operate CMVs in interstate commerce for more than 20 
years, often relying on their own forecasts for the number of drivers 
needed as a rationale. These projections have consistently failed to 
materialize.\48\ The trucking industry continues to face a driver 
retention crisis, not a driver shortage. Past witnesses representing 
parts of the trucking industry have testified before Congress that 
there is not a driver shortage and perpetuating this falsehood could 
negatively affect the supply chain.\49\
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    \47\ Campbell, K. L., Fatal Accident Involvement Rates By Driver 
Age For Large Trucks, Accid. Anal. & Prev. Vol 23, No. 4, pp. 287-295 
(1991).
    \48\ FMCSA Document ID: 2000-84100-0782. American Trucking 
Associations, Truck Driver Shortage Analysis 2015 (Oct. 2015) and 2019 
available here: https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/ata-releases-
updated-driver-shortage-report-and-forecast.
    \49\ ``The State of Transportation'' Hearing, U.S. House of 
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    The IIJA included a provision requiring the establishment of pilot 
program to permit teen truckers to operate in interstate commerce. This 
program is basically a ``science experiment'' with all road users 
serving unknowingly as ``test subjects.'' If accepted research 
protocols are not followed by FMCSA, it could result in preventable 
deaths and injuries and will also jeopardize the legitimacy of the 
outcomes of the program. Lastly, the agency's recommendations and 
conclusions in the required report to Congress must be supported by 
sufficient evidence and data collected during the program. We urge this 
Committee to continue oversight of this program.
    Truck drivers' hours of service and electronic logging devices 
(ELDs): Self-reports of fatigue, which almost always underestimate the 
problem, find that fatigue in truck operations is a significant issue. 
In a 2006 driver survey prepared for the Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration (FMCSA), ``65 percent [of drivers] reported that they 
often or sometimes felt drowsy while driving'' and almost half (47.6 
percent) of drivers said they had fallen asleep while driving in the 
previous year.\50\ In fact, the National Transportation Safety Board 
(NTSB) has repeatedly cited fatigue as a major contributor to truck 
crashes as determined by its investigations.\51\ Expanding the hours 
operators of trucks can drive through misguided pilot programs or 
undermining the use of ELDs through endless exemptions for carriers 
transporting livestock and insects as a rationale for moving more goods 
puts truck drivers, their loads and everyone on the roads with them at 
risk.\52\
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    \50\ Hours of Service of Drivers, NPRM (2010 NPRM), FMCSA, 75 FR 
82170 (Dec. 29, 2010), citing Dinges, D.F. & Maislin, G.,''Truck Driver 
Fatigue Management Survey,'' FMCSA (May 2006), FMCSA-2004-19608-3968.
    \51\ NTSB, Highway, Multivehicle Work Zone Crash on Interstate 95 
Cranbury, New Jersey June 7, 2014, Accident Report NTSB/HAR-15/02 (Aug. 
11, 2015) and Fatigue, Disregard for Safety Regulations and Oversight 
Failures Lead to Fatal Bus and Truck Collision in Upstate New York, 
Report HIR-24-08, December 19, 2024.
    \52\ U.S. DOT, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy Unveils 
Pro-Trucker Package as Part of President Trump's Executive Order (Jun. 
27, 2025); FMCSA, ELD Hours of Service (HOS) and Agriculture 
Exemptions; Public Law No: 119-4 (2025).
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Automated driving system (ADS) technology
    Autonomous driving technology has made advances yet remains unable 
to consistently operate safely with all road users, conditions and 
scenarios, as evidenced by fatal and serious crashes involving 
passenger motor vehicles equipped with ADS of varying levels.\53\ 
Transparency and robustness in crash and incident data reporting 
involving vehicles equipped with ADS are critical to the safety of 
public roads, the management of cities in which they are operating, for 
researchers and related industries as well as for Congress and the DOT 
as it considers legislative and regulatory proposals. Further, if those 
incidents had involved autonomous commercial motor vehicles (ACMVs), 
which are larger and heavier with more stopping distance needed, the 
results could have been even more catastrophic, and the death and 
injury toll could have been much worse. Some of the most pressing 
safety shortcomings associated with autonomous vehicle (AV) technology, 
which include the ADS properly detecting and reacting to all other road 
users and cybersecurity, are exponentially amplified by the greater 
crash force of an ACMV. As such, it is imperative that ACMVs be subject 
to comprehensive safety regulations, including having a licensed driver 
behind the wheel for the foreseeable future.
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    The interest in expanding the use of this technology must not be 
used as a pretext to eviscerate essential safety regulations 
administered by the FMCSA, and particularly in the absence of new 
standards to ensure the technology performs safely and as needed. The 
public safety protections provided by the FMCSRs have become no less 
important or applicable simply because a CMV has been equipped with an 
ADS. In fact, additional substantial public safety concerns are 
presented by ACMVs. This includes the deployment of emergency beacons. 
More research needs to be done on the safety impact of cab mounted 
beacons rather than Congress taking action to force FMCSA to allow 
their use.
    Drivers operating an ACMV must have an additional endorsement or 
equivalent certification on their commercial driver license (CDL) to 
ensure they have been properly trained to monitor and understand the 
ODD of the vehicle and, if need be, to operate an ACMV. This training 
must include a minimum number of hours of behind-the-wheel training.
    The remote operation of AVs, including any for ACMVs, presents 
distinct safety concerns including issues involving latency. Remote 
operators are often tasked with exercising some operational control 
over the vehicle, either for normal operations or in response to 
commands of an emergency responder. As such, all remote operators must 
be legally licensed in the U.S. to operate the AV in question. In 
addition, remote operators face unique challenges in the operation of 
an AV compared to a driver located in the vehicle. For instance, a 
human driver behind the wheel may have access to a broader range of 
details regarding the driving environment than someone located in an 
office far from the actual location of the AV, potentially in another 
country. Therefore, individuals in these roles must be given specific 
training for remote operations. These individuals should also have 
significant experience operating both an AV on public roads and remote 
operation of an AV in realistic training scenarios. Lastly, remote 
operators must never be in a situation where they would even 
potentially have to oversee the ``real time'' operation of more than 
one AV and there should be limits on hours of service for these 
positions.
    Advocates and numerous stakeholders developed the ``AV Tenets,'' 
policy positions which should be foundational to any AV 
legislation.\54\ The AV Tenets have four main, commonsense categories 
including: 1) prioritizing safety of all road users; 2) guaranteeing 
accessibility and equity; 3) preserving consumer and worker rights; 
and, 4) ensuring local control and sustainable transportation. While 
the AV Tenets were developed for application to vehicles under 10,000 
pounds, many of the principles also apply to larger commercial 
vehicles. At a minimum, ACMVs must meet safety standards for the ADS 
and related systems, including for cybersecurity, and operations must 
be subject to adequate oversight as a starting point for their 
potential deployment.
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    In December 2024, Advocates released a public opinion poll that 
found 9 of 10 adults surveyed are concerned about themselves or their 
loved ones getting into motor vehicle crashes.\55\ The survey noted 
that 88 percent of respondents affirmed sharing the roads with 
driverless trucks presented concern, with 69 percent acknowledging a 
high level of concern. The high percentage expressing concern was 
regardless of political affiliation or region.
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    \55\ Online CARAVAN SURVEY, The Public is Very Concerned About 
Traffic Safety Even Though They Are Not Aware of the Enormity of the 
Deadly Toll on our Roadways (Dec. 2024). Available at: https://
saferoads.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/Advocates-December-2024-Poll-
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Conclusion
    The DOT must implement the directives to address the truck crash 
fatality and injury toll, and we urge Congress to prioritize oversight, 
advancing proven safety measures and funding for such in the next 
transportation reauthorization legislation.
    Thank you for your consideration of these issues. We look forward 
to continuing to work with you to improve safety on our Nation's 
roadways.
            Sincerely,
                                           Catherine Chase,
                                                         President.
cc: Members of the Subcommittee on Surface Transportation, Freight, 
Pipelines, and Safety
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  Prepared Statement of Anne C. Reinke, President and CEO, Intermodal 
                  Association of North America (IANA)
    On behalf of the Intermodal Association of North America (IANA), 
thank you Subcommittee Chair Young, Ranking Member Peters, and 
Subcommittee Members for convening this hearing to discuss policies and 
regulations impacting the trucking industry, particularly with an eye 
toward the upcoming surface transportation reauthorization.
    As the only transportation trade association that represents the 
combined interests of intermodal freight providers and customers, IANA 
represents more than 1,000 corporate members, including railroads, 
ocean carriers, ports, intermodal truckers and over-the-road highway 
carriers, intermodal marketing and logistic companies, and suppliers to 
the industry. IANA's associate (non-voting) members include shippers 
(defined as the beneficial owners of the freight to be shipped), 
academic institutions, government entities, and non-profit trade 
associations.
    Unlike single transportation modes, global and domestic intermodal 
freight supply chains are comprised of separate entities that work 
together to complete each intermodal movement. Truck movements are an 
essential link in the intermodal supply chain and each container's 
journey requires multiple drivers to complete a combined total of 98 
million intermodal trucking moves annually.
    Recognizing the broad range of issues under the Subcommittee's 
jurisdiction, IANA looks forward to working with you to advance 
policies in the next surface transportation authorization law that 
increase intermodal supply chain efficiency, support the industry's 
essential workforce, and foster economic growth and competitiveness. An 
overview of the Association's most pressing policy principles related 
to trucking can be found below.
Workforce
    According to the American Trucking Associations (ATA), in 2023, the 
trucking industry faced a shortage of roughly 60,000 drivers. ATA 
further projects that the industry must recruit more than 1 million new 
drivers over the next decade to replace an aging workforce and keep 
pace with growing freight demand. Given these estimates, IANA 
encourages Congress to advance legislation that supports the retention 
of the existing trucking workforce, reduces regulatory burdens, and 
incentivizes new drivers to enter the industry.
    Presently, drivers must be at least 21 years old to operate a 
commercial motor vehicle (CMV) in interstate commerce. This age barrier 
serves as a deterrent for 18-to 21-year-olds who are interested in 
entering the workforce. Frequently, these individuals undergo training 
and apprenticeship in other fields before their age qualifies them to 
operate a CMV in interstate commerce. IANA supports Federal efforts 
that would allow drivers between the ages of 18 and 21 to enter the 
interstate workforce, while maintaining safety objectives.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) took a critical 
step in creating a career pathway for the next generation of interstate 
CMV drivers by establishing the Safe Driver Apprenticeship Program 
(SDAP) under the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. The pilot 
program allows qualified younger drivers to operate in interstate 
commerce and ensures participants satisfy comprehensive training and 
safety standards. Unfortunately, the addition of extraneous 
requirements, beyond what is written in law, has hampered participation 
in the program by both motor carriers and drivers. To maximize the 
potential of the SDAP and the future trucking workforce, we encourage 
Congress to build on its important work under the IIJA by steering the 
program back on course and ensure it is implemented according to 
Congressional intent.
    Another top priority for the intermodal industry is to preserve the 
independent contractor model, which allows truck drivers to enjoy 
maximum flexibility by choosing the hours and routes that best align 
with their personal circumstances and preferences. While not directly 
under the Committee's jurisdiction, we hope to count on your support 
for this important issue that stands to impact approximately 400,000 
independent truck drivers and an estimated 80 percent of the intermodal 
drayage trucking workforce. Although employee driver positions are 
readily available, these individuals have made the conscious decision 
to carry out their work as independent owner-operators--investing time 
and financial resources in their small business, which includes 
training, regulatory compliance, licensing, insurance, and the purchase 
of a truck.
    To further the trucking industry's workforce recruitment and 
retention goals, IANA supports Congressional efforts--such as S. 2228, 
the Modern Worker Empowerment Act- that empower these hardworking men 
and women by providing increased certainty and consistency to their 
classification as independent contractors.
Cargo Theft
    In recent years, instances of organized cargo theft and fraud have 
increased at an alarming rate. According to CargoNet's annual analysis, 
reported cargo theft incidents rose 27 percent between 2023 and 2024 
across the United States and Canada. Demonstrating the rise of 
premeditation, CargoNet estimates that instances of strategic theft--
which involve the use of fraud and deception in addition to, or in 
place of, physically stealing cargo--have risen by over 1,500 percent 
since the first quarter of 2021. Fraud and deception tactics may 
include identify theft, forged bills of lading, and advanced cyber 
tactics.
    It is important to note that crime statistics represent reported 
theft, as the occurrence is not always reported for a host of reasons, 
including reputational brand management, tedious paperwork, fear of 
increased insurance costs, and low cargo recovery rates. Knowledge that 
cargo theft is vastly underreported leads to a wide span of loss 
estimates, ranging from $455 million annually to several billion 
dollars.
    It is likely that theft, fraud, and cyber-security attacks aimed at 
freight transportation will require a host of solutions, and we applaud 
Congress for its dedication to identifying bipartisan approaches, such 
as S. 1404, the Combating Organized Retail Crime Act and S. 337, the 
Household Goods Shipping Consumer Protection Act. Both of these bills 
would make meaningful changes at the Federal level to identify, 
prosecute, and deter cargo theft. A coordinated, national response is 
needed to address this growing threat by improving enforcement 
capabilities and fostering increased collaboration across relevant 
federal, state, and local agencies.
Truck Size and Weight
    In 1991, Congress froze truck size and weight limits on Federal 
highways. The intermodal industry wholly adopted this standard and, 
accordingly, built trailers and containers in compliance with Federal 
law. Any changes to these long-standing regulations will upend 
intermodal operations, sending a ripple effect across the entire supply 
chain as intermodal equipment is carefully designed for safe and 
efficient transport by water, rail, and road.
Intermodal Connectors
    Despite constituting less than one percent of total National 
Highway System (NHS) mileage, NHS-designated intermodal connectors play 
an outsized role in freight network fluidity. These connectors provide 
necessary links to seaports, rail facilities, and airports that allow 
for seamless interaction between transportation modes and are essential 
to the movement of goods between points of origin and destination. 
According to a 2017 study by the Federal Highway Administration, only 
nine percent of intermodal connectors are classified as in good or very 
good condition. Under the next surface transportation reauthorization, 
IANA strongly supports continued eligibility and robust funding made 
available for improvements to intermodal connectors under Federal 
formula and discretionary programs.
    Thank you for your time and your leadership in support of 
intermodal goods movement and its related issues. It is our hope that 
IANA can be a resource as Congress continues developing reauthorization 
legislation. We look forward to working with you and would welcome the 
opportunity to further engage with your offices. If you or your staff 
have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at 
[email protected] or 301-982-3400.
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 Prepared Statement from the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA)
    The Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance (CVSA) respectfully submits 
the following comments for the record in response to the Committee on 
Commerce, Science & Transportation's Subcommittee on Surface 
Transportation, Freight, Pipelines and Safety's hearing on ``Shifting 
Gears: Issues Impacting the Trucking and Commercial Bus Industries in 
the U.S.''
    CVSA is a nonprofit organization comprised of local, state, 
provincial, territorial and Federal commercial motor vehicle (CMV) 
safety officials and industry representatives. The Alliance aims to 
prevent CMV crashes, injuries and fatalities and believes that 
collaboration between government and industry improves road safety and 
saves lives. Our mission is to improve CMV safety and enforcement by 
providing guidance, education and advocacy for enforcement and industry 
across North America.
    CVSA commends the Subcommittee for holding a hearing to explore and 
understand issues facing the CMV industry. The hearing offered a timely 
opportunity for Senators to engage with industry stakeholders to better 
understand the unique challenges of the CMV industry, in addition to 
learning about the surface transportation priorities of the industry 
witnesses participating in the hearing.
    CVSA and its members are committed to improving CMV safety in the 
motor carrier industry and have long supported solutions to improve CMV 
safety on our Nation's roadways. Discussion during the July 22 hearing 
covered a variety of issues confronting the industry, such as effective 
use of safety technology, impaired and fatigued driving, and regulatory 
improvements. The Committee's upcoming work on surface transportation 
reauthorization is the perfect opportunity to address some of the 
issues shared by stakeholders. CVSA is committed to improving roadway 
safety and welcomes this opportunity to share several solutions to 
issues affecting the CMV industry.
Universal Electronic Vehicle Identifier
    As part of its written testimony, the Owner-Operator Independent 
Driver Association (OOIDA) misrepresented one of CVSA's reauthorization 
priorities, the universal electronic vehicle identifier.
    The universal electronic vehicle identifier is an inspection 
selection tool and solution for inspectors to better identify and 
prioritize vehicles with safety concerns for intervention, more 
effectively and efficiently removing unsafe vehicles and drivers from 
the Nation's roadways. Currently, when an inspector is observing CMVs 
available for inspection, that inspector can only view information for 
a single truck at a time when using various screening technologies and 
tools. Additionally, inspectors have to manually review the information 
when they query the screening technology programs. Inspectors have a 
limited window in which to view the information and make the inspection 
selection decision.
    Under current inspection selection procedures, inspectors are not 
receiving a complete picture of the CMVs in their vicinity that are 
available for inspection. Using technology to identify multiple 
vehicles electronically would allow enforcement to increase the number 
of vehicles that are screened for inspection while using data to better 
select vehicles for intervention, creating efficiencies for the 
enforcement community and the motor carrier industry. A universal 
electronic vehicle identifier would provide inspectors with a complete 
picture of the vehicles around them, so they can better identify and 
prioritize vehicles that are operating unsafely. After reviewing a 
complete picture of the vehicles in the vicinity, the inspector 
maintains discretion to select the vehicle that poses the greatest 
imminent hazard to road users.
    OOIDA's label of the universal electronic vehicle identifier as 
``trackers on truckers,'' misrepresents what CVSA would like to see as 
part of implementation of a universal electronic vehicle identifier. 
There are no credible privacy concerns with implementation of a 
universal electronic vehicle identifier because sensitive information, 
such as driver information and data, would not be transmitted. The only 
data transmitted would be the universal vehicle identifier. The 
universal vehicle identifier, potentially tied to the vehicle 
identification number, would provide enforcement with access to the 
information they currently access by running the vehicle's USDOT number 
or license plate number, creating a more efficient means to retrieve 
data already available to them. CVSA's state and territory members are 
pursuing a requirement that CMVs be equipped with a universal 
electronic vehicle identifier to improve roadway safety--not to track 
trucks or their drivers, a point CVSA has made clear in its outreach on 
this topic and the Alliance is committed to ensuring any legislative 
language or regulatory requirement for a universal electronic vehicle 
identifier reflects the technology's intended purpose. Additionally, 
CVSA disputes OOIDA's claim that the universal electronic vehicle 
identifier would negatively impact safety. The universal electronic 
vehicle identifier will aid inspectors in selecting the vehicles on the 
roadway that are most in need of an inspection or intervention. For 
example, a system that uses the universal electronic vehicle identifier 
could flag vehicles that are operating under a Federal or state out-of-
service order. These are vehicles that should not be operating yet are 
on the road despite significant safety issues, placing other road users 
at risk. Deployment of a universal electronic vehicle identifier could 
help inspectors better identify these vehicles for removal from the 
roadways.
    There are additional applications for how a universal electronic 
vehicle identifier can aid enforcement beyond the inspection selection 
process. For example, a universal electronic vehicle identifier can 
support enforcement in identifying instances of motor carrier fraud and 
USDOT number theft. In instances where USDOT number theft is suspected, 
enforcement can rely on the electronic vehicle identifier, in addition 
to a motor carrier's registration information, to determine if the 
vehicle being driven is associated with the USDOT number.
    With the size of the CMV industry, it is not possible for the 
roughly 13,000 inspectors across North America to inspect every 
vehicle, driver and motor carrier operating on our roadways on a 
regular basis. Chairman Young shared in his opening statement that 
Congress needs to ensure that law enforcement agencies are well-
equipped. Implementing a universal electronic vehicle identifier would 
provide the CMV enforcement community with a tool that would 
significantly improve the way CMVs are selected for inspection, 
leveraging limited resources and improving roadway safety.
Safety Technology and Automated Commercial Motor Vehicles
    During the hearing, various forms of safety technologies were 
discussed. CVSA generally supports policies that encourage the 
deployment of safety technologies proven to improve CMV safety, either 
through preventing or mitigating the severity of crashes. As budgets 
continue to tighten and technology continues to advance, it is 
imperative that those in the safety and enforcement communities take 
full advantage of technological advancements that improve safety and 
demonstrate a net benefit to society. As Congress considers developing 
performance standards and specifications for safety technologies, it is 
imperative to work with industry and the enforcement community to 
ensure that the devices are effective and that any regulations put into 
place are enforceable.
    A focus of the hearing was automated, or self-driving, CMVs. For 
several years, CVSA's membership has been working to prepare for the 
presence of automated CMVs on our roadways. CMVs equipped with 
automated driving systems (ADS) have the potential to significantly 
improve roadway safety. As ADS technology continues to advance and be 
tested on public roadways, it is imperative that Federal agencies, 
lawmakers, law enforcement and motor carriers keep pace with the ADS 
industry. While ADS-equipped CMVs have the potential to improve roadway 
safety, that potential is based on the vehicles and technology being 
well maintained and fully functional. Oversight by the enforcement 
community is necessary to ensure ADS-equipped CMVs are properly 
maintained. Unfortunately, there are challenges with applying the 
traditional roadside inspection program to ADS-equipped vehicles, 
because the current roadside inspection program is not compatible with 
ADS-equipped CMVs. The current inspection process relies heavily on the 
driver to complete an inspection, for example. In addition, 
incorporating all possible roadside inspection locations into an ADS-
equipped CMV's operational design domain is not practical. To address 
these challenges, CVSA coordinated several years of research and 
discussion with state and local CMV enforcement officials, motor 
carriers and ADS developers to design an alternative approach to 
ensuring ADS-equipped CMVs receive the necessary oversight to ensure 
compliance with Federal safety regulations.
    CVSA recommends implementing the Enhanced Commercial Motor Vehicle 
Inspection Program, an inspection standard and procedure designed to 
govern the inspection of ADS-equipped CMVs operating without a driver/
operator on duty. The program establishes a no-defect, dispatch (point-
of-origin) inspection program and includes an enhanced inspection 
standard and procedure for motor carriers operating ADS-equipped 
vehicles, as well as a 40-hour CVSA training course and exam (written 
and practical) for motor carrier personnel who will be conducting the 
inspections. Under this program, rather than the driver conducting a 
pre-trip inspection (as is currently done), for ADS-equipped CMVs, 
CVSA-trained and -certified motor carrier personnel would conduct the 
Enhanced CMV Inspection Procedure at the point of origin before 
dispatch.
Surface Transportation Reauthorization as a Solution to Issues Facing 
        the CMV Industry
    Although the hearing focused on challenges within the CMV industry, 
the upcoming surface transportation reauthorization presents a critical 
opportunity to address these issues. To further the discussion, CVSA 
has identified key priorities that should be considered in the 
reauthorization process.
Improvements to the Enforcement Training and Support Grant Program
    One issue that can be addressed in the upcoming surface 
transportation reauthorization legislation is ensuring that there is a 
well-trained inspector population available to enforce the Federal 
Motor Carrier Safety Regulations (FMCSR). In the Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act, Congress created the Enforcement Training and 
Support Grant which created a new approach to how certification 
training to state and local CMV inspectors is developed and delivered. 
In order to improve the training of inspectors, CVSA recommends a 
series of improvements to the structure and administration of the 
Enforcement Training and Support Grant to be included as part of the 
surface transportation reauthorization legislation.
    Currently, qualified state inspectors are used to deliver the CMV 
inspector certification training included under the Enforcement 
Training and Support Grant. Inspectors who want to become instructors 
are required to become qualified as an instructor in each type of 
curriculum they wish to instruct. However, due to a misinterpretation 
of Congressional intent, activities under the current Enforcement 
Training and Support Grant are limited to the development and delivery 
of certification training to state and local enforcement personnel 
seeking to become certified as a CMV inspector, excluding the training 
of the instructors for the courses. These instructors, who are also 
state personnel and inspectors, are a critical part of the training 
process and their training should be part of the same program. In 
addition to the overall improvement to the quality of training 
instructors are receiving and the administrative benefits of 
consolidating all state and local roadside inspector and instructor 
training into one program, this clarification would match the 
intentions of the creation of the program in the Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act. To resolve this, CVSA seeks language 
clarifying that the state instructors delivering the certification 
training to state personnel under Enforcement Training and Support 
Grant should be trained and managed under the grant as well.
    Another recommendation to improve the Enforcement Training and 
Support Grant is to implement a multi-year grant cycle. The Enforcement 
Training and Support Grant currently operates on an annual award cycle, 
which contains multiple downsides for the delivery of this important 
training. First, a single year of funding impacts the grant recipient's 
ability to implement a comprehensive training program reliably and 
consistently. Additionally, the administrative burden of annually 
applying for a single year of funding is cumbersome on grantees, as 
well as the agency. Further, a multi-year grant cycle would provide the 
state and local inspectors receiving the critical certification 
training with much needed stability and continuity. In addition, a 
multi-year grant cycle would ensure consistency with the delivery of 
the enforcement training program, as well as give the grant recipient 
the opportunity to deliver on longer terms goals and objectives. 
Finally, transitioning to a multi-year grant cycle would reduce the 
administrative burden of soliciting and awarding the grant program for 
the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA). CVSA supports 
a multi-year grant cycle for the Enforcement Training and Support 
Grant.
    A final improvement for the Enforcement Training and Support Grant 
is to ensure that the activities under the Enforcement Training and 
Support Grant are delivered by the organization comprised of state 
government agencies responsible for the oversight and implementation of 
CMV enforcement activities.
    In order to ensure the quality of the training, the state agencies 
responsible for motor carrier enforcement programs strongly support 
limiting the CMV Enforcement Training and Support Grant program to one 
recipient and support that the program be delivered only by the 
organization comprised of state government agencies responsible for the 
oversight and implementation of CMV enforcement activities. CVSA is the 
organization responsible for developing and maintaining the North 
American Standard Inspection Program (NASI). CVSA's certification 
standards are identified by the FMCSRs in 49 Code of Federal 
Regulations (CFR) Sec. 350.105 as the certification standard to which 
CMV inspectors must adhere. As the entity responsible for the 
certification standard, CVSA is best qualified to deliver the 
certification training for NASI inspectors, as well as instructors. The 
state agencies responsible for CMV safety inspections comprise CVSA's 
membership and will ensure the quality of the training program. 
Identifying CVSA as the entity responsible for this training would 
provide the jurisdictions with long term stability within this critical 
training program.
Personal Conveyance
    Another challenge for the CMV industry is fatigued driving. The 
International Brotherhood of Teamsters acknowledged this in its written 
testimony, when they cited fatigue as ``endemic to the industry.'' 
Driver fatigue is a significant contributor to CMV crashes and poses a 
substantial risk to road safety. A National Transportation Safety Board 
study found that 31 percent of heavy truck crashes with fatalities to 
the driver involved fatigue.\1\ Additionally, fatigued drivers perform 
more inappropriate lane deviations and have slower steering responses, 
experience reductions in responses to speed changes of a lead vehicle, 
have increased speed variations, exhibit slower reaction times, 
experience impaired visual scanning or ``tunnel vision,'' and are at 
risk of falling asleep at the wheel. All of these factors increase the 
likelihood of crashes and near-crashes resulting from driver error.\2\ 
In the motor carrier industry, the Federal hours-of-service 
requirements exist to help prevent and manage driver fatigue. While 
sleep cannot be regulated, the hours-of-service rules set forth a 
framework that, if followed, allow drivers to get the rest necessary to 
operate their vehicles safely. It is important that the hours-of-
service requirements continue to focus on fatigue management and 
safety, factoring in the best available fatigue data.
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Case Summaries. National Transportation Safety Board. NTSB Report 
Number SS-95-02. https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/safety-studies/Documents/
SS9502.pdf.
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    Opportunities for driver fatigue can be reduced by clarifying the 
definition of personal conveyance within the FMCSRs by adding a maximum 
time for its use. Under personal conveyance, a driver is able to use a 
loaded or unloaded CMV for personal use and count that driving time as 
off-duty time. With the current definition of personal conveyance, a 
driver can drive hundreds of miles over the course of several hours 
under the designation of personal conveyance before, during, or after 
their workday, putting them at risk for increased levels of fatigue.
    Roadside inspectors see countless examples of this occurring, with 
drivers claiming they are operating their vehicle for personal use, 
when in reality they are extending their driving time. Some common 
examples of personal conveyance abuse include using personal conveyance 
for up to 10 hours between dropping off loads and going to the next 
pick up; driving over two hours claiming they are looking for a place 
to park when there are open spaces along the two-hour drive; using 
personal conveyance to make up for time lost at loading docks; and 
switching to personal conveyance time just before violating the 11-or 
14-hour rules. Allowing significant extension of driving time with the 
use of personal conveyance undermines the goals of the hours-of-service 
regulations, which exist to mitigate the impacts of fatigue on highway 
safety.
    In recent years, CVSA inspectors have observed a rise in personal 
conveyance abuse and misuse. For example, as part of a data collection 
conducted by CVSA in 2023, CVSA found that when personal conveyance was 
being used by a driver, it was being used improperly nearly 40 percent 
of the time. Additionally, CVSA has seen an increase in false log 
violations, which is where personal conveyance violations are 
documented. False log violations have jumped from the seventh most 
frequently cited driver violation in 2019 to the third most cited in 
2021, 2022 and 2023. In 2024, false log violations were the twelfth 
most frequently cited driver violation. When looking at ``false logs--
personal conveyance'' violations, the number of violations rose from 
the 60th most frequently cited driver violation in 2021 (when the 
specific violation code was created) to the 27th most frequently cited 
in 2024.
    Analysis of the 2023 data collection revealed that motor carriers 
whose drivers use personal conveyance improperly have a crash rate that 
is four times higher than motor carriers whose drivers use personal 
conveyance properly.
    Additionally, the driver out-of-service (OOS) rate is over two 
times higher for motor carriers with drivers improperly using personal 
conveyance.
    Using personal conveyance to extend driving time increases the 
possibility of fatigued driving and can endanger other road users. 
Placing a limit on the time that a driver can use personal conveyance 
is a strategy for mitigating fatigued driving that should be 
implemented.
Motor Carrier Safety Program Improvements
    Congress provides funding to the states, through FMCSA's Motor 
Carrier Safety Assistance Program (MCSAP) and High Priority Grant. 
States and local agencies use these funds to conduct enforcement 
activities, train enforcement personnel, purchase necessary equipment, 
update software and other technology, and conduct outreach and 
education campaigns to raise awareness related to CMV safety issues. 
The goal of these programs is to reduce CMV-involved crashes, 
fatalities and injuries through consistent, uniform and effective CMV 
safety programs. The programs seek to identify safety defects, driver 
deficiencies and unsafe motor carrier practices and remove them from 
the Nation's roadways. To address issues and ensure that, as Chairman 
Young mentioned in his opening statement, law enforcement agencies are 
well-equipped to fulfill the goals of MCSAP, CVSA recommends multiple 
improvements.
    To improve MCSAP, CVSA supports giving FMCSA the authority to allow 
states to make adjustments to their maintenance of effort (MOE) and 
enforcement activity minimums, when appropriate. As a condition of 
MCSAP, states are required to meet minimum financial requirements, 
known as MOE, by investing state funds in their CMV safety enforcement 
programs. States must also meet certain CMV inspection and enforcement 
minimums in order to have traffic safety activities reimbursed under 
MCSAP. However, the MOE and minimum activities benchmarks are outdated 
and often no longer relevant to the jurisdiction's program due to 
changes in program structure, responsibilities and priorities.
    The motor carrier industry has evolved significantly since the MOE 
and inspection benchmarks were last updated. State CMV safety programs 
have evolved alongside industry to address the most prevalent safety 
issues, making the 20-year-old MOE and inspection benchmarks outdated 
for many programs. Giving states the option to request an adjustment to 
their MOE and inspection benchmarks ensures that their minimum state 
contributions meet the needs of their program and the current motor 
carrier safety trends. FMCSA should be given the authority to consider 
permanent changes to a jurisdiction's MOE upon request, providing the 
states with additional flexibility to manage their programs.
    Another recommendation to improve MCSAP would provide greater 
spending flexibility for jurisdictions. Activities that are primarily 
eligible for MCSAP funding are the national program elements, which 
include driver and vehicle inspections; traffic enforcement; compliance 
reviews, carrier interventions, investigations and new entrant safety 
audits; public education and awareness; and data collection and 
quality. There are some activities and expenses not currently covered 
under MCSAP, which limits how jurisdictions are able to spend MCSAP 
funds, placing unnecessary constraints on state programs and limiting 
efficacy. Creating additional spending flexibility by expanding MCSAP 
eligibility would allow jurisdictions to spend MCSAP funds in ways that 
meet their individual needs, maximizing the benefits of MCSAP funds. 
Based on feedback from the states, CVSA recommends expanding MCSAP to 
include physical infrastructure, including MCSAP-related facilities 
construction, purchases and maintenance; MCSAP-related activities 
performed by non-MCSAP personnel, such as oversize/overweight 
enforcement; intrastate carrier compliance reviews; tools, promotional 
items and educational items for distribution to industry; and overtime 
for non-CMV traffic enforcement.
    A final recommendation would create a dedicated funding program for 
local jurisdictions. Currently, there is not a dedicated funding 
mechanism to provide funding for local enforcement agencies 
participating in the MCSAP program. As a result, local jurisdictions 
must compete with state agencies for limited grant funds. Dedicated 
funding for local jurisdictions should be competitive in nature and 
restricted to local jurisdictions with an active memorandum of 
understanding with the lead MCSAP agency in their state. This dedicated 
funding will help ensure that local jurisdictions who wish to 
participate in the MCSAP program have the resources to fully 
participate.
Minimum Qualifications for Entry as a Motor Carrier
    As was noted in the hearing, it is currently far too easy to obtain 
a USDOT number and enter the industry as a motor carrier.
    Safety on the roadways is paramount, particularly within the motor 
carrier industry. It is critical that those operating in commerce 
understand what is required of motor carriers, how to comply with the 
Federal regulations and how to establish a strong safety culture within 
their operations. Currently, however, very little is required of an 
entity to obtain registration and begin operations as a commercial 
motor carrier. In comparison, CMV inspectors and enforcement personnel 
must be trained and certified to conduct inspections, and CMV drivers 
must go through a rigorous Entry Level Driver Training and/or 
qualification process and be properly credentialed in order to drive a 
CMV. No such standards or qualifications exist, however, to become a 
motor carrier. Motor carriers applying for a USDOT number do not have 
to demonstrate qualifications in the same way as CMV inspectors and 
drivers. As a solution, CVSA supports requiring that FMCSA establish a 
set of minimum motor carrier qualification standards. Creating a 
standard for entry for motor carriers reinforces an industry-wide 
safety priority and would ensure those entering the industry are 
equipped to do so safely. CVSA is preparing specific recommendations on 
what should be included as part of these motor carrier qualifications 
and will bring these specific recommendations to Congress as part of 
its work on surface transportation reauthorization legislation.
Improvements to the New Entrant Safety Audit Program
    The purpose of the New Entrant Safety Audit in 49 CFR Sec. 385.309 
is to provide educational and technical assistance to the new motor 
carriers and gather safety data needed to assess the new entrant's 
safety performance and the adequacy of its basic safety management 
controls. The existing New Entrant Safety Audit Program is not 
adequately fulfilling its purpose and instead provides minimal 
education to motor carriers.
    The New Entrant Safety Audit Program should return to the intended 
focus on motor carrier education before operation. This would increase 
efficiency, reaching more carriers to proactively improve new entrant 
safety and create more uniformity for all new entrants regardless of 
assignment type. CVSA is preparing specific recommendations on what 
improvements should be made to the New Entrant Safety Audit Program and 
will bring these specific recommendations to Congress as part of its 
work on surface transportation reauthorization legislation.
Expanding CDLPI Eligibility to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands
    Multiple hearing participants spoke about the importance of having 
well-trained, credentialed drivers as part of the workforce. For 
example, the American Trucking Associations (ATA) touched on how having 
qualified drivers is vital for improving safety in their written 
testimony. CVSA understands the importance of having well-trained and 
qualified drivers on the roadways.
    One way to address driver credentialing and guarantee a qualified 
CMV driving population is to expand the Commercial Driver's License 
Program Implementation (CDLPI) grant eligibility to include Puerto Rico 
and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Currently, the commercial driver's license 
(CDL) programs in both Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands are not 
recognized by FMCSA as equivalent to the standards in 49 CFR Part 383. 
Making the territories eligible under the CDLPI grant program would 
enable them to improve their existing CDL programs and bring them in 
line with Part 383, ensuring those drivers are properly trained and 
credentialed, increasing safety on the roadways.
    Additionally, this will bring uniformity to the enforcement of the 
safety regulations surrounding CDLs, particularly when it comes to CMV 
drivers from either territory operating a CMV in one of the 50 states 
in the U.S. Currently, because their licenses are not recognized as 
equivalent, CDL drivers from Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands 
may end up with two driver's licenses--one from their home territory 
and one from a state. FMCSA and the states strive for a ``one driver, 
one license'' approach for all CDL drivers. Including Puerto Rico and 
the U.S. Virgin Islands in the CDLPI program would enable the 
territories to improve their CDL programs to bring them in line with 49 
CFR Part 383, which would allow FMCSA to recognize those licenses and 
equivalent to other U.S. issued licenses, allowing for a single and 
proper credential for all CDL holders from those territories.
ELD Certification
    CVSA also supports requiring that FMCSA create a process for 
certifying electronic logging devices (ELDs). Currently, manufacturers 
self-certify that their devices meet the ELD specifications set by 
FMCSA. FMCSA has the ability to remove a device from the list of self-
certified ELDs if, after self-certification, the device is found to be 
non-compliant by the agency. This lack of Federal oversight before a 
device is deemed compliant results in carriers purchasing ELDs that are 
later deemed non-compliant and then having to replace those devices. 
The volatility of removing ELDs from the list of registered devices 
places additional burdens on motor carriers who may not have realized 
their selected ELD was non-compliant.
    Additionally, relying on compliant ELDs is key to effective 
enforcement of the hours-of-service regulations, which exist to help 
prevent and manage driver fatigue. ELDs make it easier for inspectors 
to identify violations and take unsafe, non-compliant carriers and 
drivers off the roadways, all while saving time for both enforcement 
and industry.
    Establishing a certification process administered by FMCSA would 
address the issues with self-certification while providing motor 
carriers with a more reliable list of eligible devices.
Applicability of Drug and Alcohol Testing Requirements
    Impaired driving continues to be an issue that negatively impacts 
safety on our roadways, and CVSA maintains that continued enforcement 
of impaired driving standards for both drugs and alcohol use is a key 
component of CMV safety programs. In its written testimony, ATA 
identified improvements to drug testing as a solution to address a rise 
in impaired driving. Additionally, Senator Lujan used part of his time 
to ask the panelists about impairment and drug and alcohol testing, 
highlighting the need to address this safety issue. Impaired driving 
remains a threat to roadway safety, and resources devoted to rigorous 
enforcement of impaired driving standards are needed.
    Currently, compliance with the drug and alcohol testing and 
reporting requirements in 49 CFR Part 382 apply only to CDL drivers, 
excluding drivers operating the 11 million non-CDL CMVs on the Nation's 
roadways. Non-CDL CMVs weigh between 10,001 and 26,000 pounds, and 
examples include large box trucks, large truck-trailer combinations and 
passenger carrying vehicles that seat 9-15 passengers.
    When a CDL-driver has a positive drug or alcohol test result, the 
result is placed in the Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse where motor 
carriers can view if a driver is in a prohibited status and therefore 
unable to operate a CMV in interstate commerce. In order to have their 
prohibition rescinded, the disqualified driver must complete a return-
to-duty process.
    However, data from FMCSA shows that of 296,021 drivers with at 
least one drug and alcohol program violation, there are 186,337 
prohibited drivers in the Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse, and only 
109,684 drivers have completed the return-to-duty process and are no 
longer in a prohibited status.\3\ In addition, we are seeing instances 
where motor carriers hiring for a non-CDL CMV driver position 
unknowingly hire a driver in a prohibited status, placing these unsafe 
drivers back on the roadway. Those motor carriers are then penalized 
for unknowingly hiring a driver in a prohibited status when those 
drivers are stopped for inspection. However, because the requirements 
in 49 CFR Part 382 do not apply to non-CDL drivers, those motor 
carriers are not required to check their status in the Drug and Alcohol 
Clearinghouse.
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    Recent data from FMCSA shows an increase in crashes and fatalities 
in the non-CDL CMV sector. For example, from 2021 to 2022, the number 
of CMVs involved in a fatal crash with a weight rating between 10,001 
and 14,000 pounds increased 4 percent.\4\ Additionally, FMCSA has 
observed increases every year since 2016 of fatal crashes involving 
large trucks with a weight rating between 10,001 and 14,000 pounds.\5\
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    Drivers that fail to comply with the drug and alcohol requirements 
pose a significant risk to all motorists. If being in a prohibited 
status within the Drug and Alcohol Clearinghouse disqualifies a driver 
from operating any CMV, then all CMV drivers should be subject to the 
drug and alcohol testing and reporting requirements found in the safety 
regulations. CVSA supports expanding the applicability of the drug and 
alcohol testing and reporting requirements in 49 CFR Part 382 to 
include non-CDL CMV drivers.
Hazardous Materials Safety Grant Improvements
    The Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) 
administers multiple grant programs that provide funding for recipients 
to train and conduct outreach to first responders, communities and 
hazardous materials industry safety professionals. Specifically, the 
Hazardous Materials Instructor Training (HMIT), Assistance for Local 
Emergency Response Training (ALERT) and Community Safety grants are 
separate grant programs that target different stakeholder groups, 
despite sharing a common mission of training stakeholders on hazardous 
materials safety. These existing hazardous materials safety training 
grants should be consolidated into a single training grant. Combining 
these related grant programs into one training grant improves 
efficiency of the grant process, allowing PHMSA to better fund quality 
grant applications and provides grantees with flexibility to meet the 
most pressing training needs, while reducing the administrative burden 
for both PHMSA and the grantees.
    In addition, due to the shared goals of the grants, many grant 
recipients receive funding from multiple grants to fund various 
training programs. For example, five non-profit organizations received 
funding from multiple grants as part of the fiscal 2024 awards across 
the various programs. Currently, if a recipient receives funding from 
two different grant programs, they have to submit separate funding 
proposals, track expenses for each grant separately and submit separate 
reports to the agency. This also doubles the amount of administrative 
work for the agency, as they have to oversee these steps of the grant 
process. By consolidating the grant programs, grant recipients can 
redirect the resources dedicated to the administrative tasks of 
multiple grants to the mission of hazardous materials safety and PHMSA 
can more efficiently manage and administer their grant programs. 
Consolidation also allows more flexibility for grant recipients. By 
combining the funding into one grant, funding can be dedicated to 
projects that comprehensively address current needs. Under the current 
structure, grant applicants must create projects that fit the narrow 
requirements of each grant and funding levels are tied to the specific 
grant criteria.
Conclusion
    As Congress begins its work on surface transportation 
reauthorization, it is important to use this as an opportunity to 
address and prioritize challenges confronting the CMV industry. 
Congress can ensure that enforcement has the tools necessary to enforce 
safety regulations and improve roadway safety by implementing a 
universal electronic vehicle identifier, making improvements to the 
Enforcement Training and Support Grant, and creating flexibility in the 
Motor Carrier Safety Assistance Program. CVSA encourages the committee 
to consider its additional recommendations on personal conveyance, 
motor carrier qualification standards, the New Entrant Safety Audit 
Program, expanding CDLPI eligibility, ELD certification, the 
applicability of drug and alcohol testing requirements and hazardous 
materials safety grants. Each of the Alliance's recommendations aligns 
with the Subcommittee's task of examining issues to improve the safety 
of the CMV industry and the Nation's roadways.
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     Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Todd Young to 
                              Chris Spear
Autonomous Vehicles
    Question. During the hearing you voiced support for the further 
adoption of autonomous vehicles and noted the safety benefits of 
automation, along with the increases in efficiency and productivity the 
technology can bring.
    Mr. Spear, can you provide further information on the benefits of 
the driverless operation of commercial motor vehicles with Level 4 and 
Level 5 automated driving systems? We have already seen driver-out 
testing and deployment of Level 4 vehicles on some roads in Texas, when 
can we expect wider driver-out deployment of driverless Level 4 
vehicles and what can this Committee due to support the AV trucking 
industry going forward?
    Answer. First, it is important to clarify the types of automation 
when discussing AV policy. SAE defines levels of automation based on 
the degree to which it can control the vehicle. SAE levels 1-3 provide 
limited degrees of control and require a human driver. SAE levels 4-5 
are driverless and do not require a human to be engaged with the 
driving task while automation is engaged. ATA sees potential benefits 
to both driver assistance automation (SAE levels 1-3) and driverless 
automation (SAE levels 4-5) in terms of safety and efficiency. However, 
there are some unique challenges for developing, testing, and deploying 
level 4 automation in commercial vehicles. It is important that we are 
able to continue to develop and test level 4 automation in order to 
learn where it may be able to improve commercial vehicle operations and 
under what conditions.
    The testing and very limited deployments of Level 4 driverless 
commercial vehicles in Texas and other Southwest U.S. corridors is 
promising. But these are not enough to fully understand the safety of 
driverless commercial vehicles, their operational requirements, or how 
the technology can ultimately be integrated into our supply chain 
effectively. We need a Federal framework for AV testing and deployment 
to facilitate these efforts, particularly for commercial vehicles. A 
Federal framework allows for transparency and consistency in how AV are 
tested and deployed regardless of the types of vehicles, types of 
operations, or geographic locations. This lets all road users, our 
fleet members included, understand where the technology shows potential 
and decide if and how it could be beneficial in commercial vehicle 
transportation. A Federal framework also helps ensure consistency 
between states in how AV are tested and deployed, which is critical for 
facilitating long haul automated commercial vehicle deployments. We 
recommend that the committee direct the Department of Transportation to 
create and manage such a framework, and to ensure that the DOT has the 
resources necessary to collect, organize, and disseminate data on AV 
deployments.
Outdated Regulations
    Question. Outdated and overly burdensome regulations continue to 
hinder progress in both safety and innovation--particularly in the 
surface transportation sector. The upcoming surface transportation 
reauthorization presents a key opportunity to revisit and modernize 
these regulations under the FMCSA purview.
    Mr. Spear, can you highlight any technologies your members are 
using that can increase safety? And are there specific regulations that 
you or your members have encountered that could be updated or reformed 
to better support safety advancements and innovation in this industry?
    Answer. ATA members actively leverage a range of safety-enhancing 
technologies and innovations--from automatic emergency braking (AEB) 
and collision mitigation systems. ATA is a strong supporter of AEB 
technologies for their life-saving abilities, and Congress has directed 
USDOT to mandate AEB on heavy duty commercial vehicles. We look forward 
to working with USDOT to finalize a mandate that is aligned with 
Congressional direction and supports a higher standard of safety on our 
Nation's roadways. We also support the industry-wide adoption of 
electronic logging devices (ELDs), which have cut Hours of Service 
violations by more than 50 percent--representing significantly fewer 
instances of fatigued driving on U.S. roads. Yet in many cases, 
outdated regulations hinder full deployment of safety technologies and 
innovations--some of these with common sense solutions. For example, 
drivers are still required to carry printed ELD manuals and backup 
paper logs, despite the widespread availability of digital 
alternatives.
    Similarly, current rules mandate that drivers exit their vehicles, 
sometimes in risky roadway conditions, to manually place reflective 
warning triangles when stopped roadside--a decades-old requirement that 
increases risk to the driver and fails to recognize modern, vehicle-
integrated lighting technologies that can perform the same function 
more safely and effectively. This warning triangle regulation has also 
stymied the full deployment of autonomous commercial trucking--a 
promising piece of the puzzle when thinking about how to make our 
Nation's roadways safer.
    In addition to these technology-related reforms, ATA has 
recommended non-technology-based updates, including commonsense 
improvements to the Commercial Driver's License (CDL) process. These 
include allowing third-party knowledge testing, permitting states to 
test out-of-state applicants, and enabling Commercial Learner's Permit 
holders who have passed their skills test to operate under supervision 
while awaiting credentialing. These changes would help alleviate 
workforce bottlenecks without compromising safety. We also recommended 
that FMCSA eliminate outdated requirements like the rear underride 
guard certification label, which serves no safety purpose once a 
trailer is in service.
    We're grateful to Secretary Duffy, FMCSA, and the broader 
Administration for moving swiftly on several of ATA's recommendations, 
including the proposal to remove the outdated requirement for hard-copy 
ELD materials and rear underride labels. We're encouraged by this 
momentum and look forward to continuing our work together to modernize 
the regulatory landscape in a way that enhances safety, supports 
innovation, and improves industry efficiency.
Freight Fraud and Abuse
    Question. In my opening statement I mentioned the prevalence of 
freight fraud and cargo theft. To summarize, Congress needs to act to 
prevent this pervasive practice from continuing.
    Mr. Spear, how significant is this problem for your members and how 
can Congress partner with industry to combat this issue?
    Answer. This is a significant problem, and I am grateful to you for 
shining a light on this issue by holding a subcommittee hearing in 
February to consider its impact. Freight fraud and cargo theft impacts 
motor carriers of all sizes and specializations and is a threat to 
America's national security and economic resilience. We are grateful 
for your ongoing leadership on this issue.
    Freight-related fraud and cargo theft have become increasingly 
sophisticated and costly, posing serious risks to supply chain 
integrity and motor carrier operations. As ATA members report growing 
incidents of double brokering scams, identity theft, and fictitious 
pickups--often orchestrated by bad actors exploiting gaps in the 
current registration system administered by FMCSA--ATA continues to 
elevate our focus on this issue. Cargo theft is no longer a problem to 
be handled on a one-off basis. Rather, cargo theft is now a criminal 
enterprise that has resulted in billions of dollars in lost goods. 
Since the first quarter of 2021, strategic theft has risen 1,500 
percent. From electronics to clothing to food, nearly every industry 
has been hit and consumers experience the consequences at the cash 
register. Cargo theft costs the American economy up to $35 billion per 
year with an average value per theft of more than $200,000.
    These thieves show no signs of slowing down with cargo theft 
incidents reported during the first quarter of this year, a 36 percent 
increase compared with Q1 2024. This figure is likely much higher given 
the nature of cargo theft and fraud reporting in the industry and 
limited data collection on the law enforcement side.
    One of the most alarming aspects is the way in which these criminal 
operations have become more sophisticated. Thieves are using advanced 
technology to track shipments, identify routes, and even disrupt 
communication systems to exploit weaknesses in the supply chain. 
Whether it is tricking motor carriers or drivers into delivering 
freight to thieves or striking poorly secured distribution centers, 
these criminals are taking advantage of any opening they can find. Not 
only can registration and other forms of cyber-related freight fraud 
lead to cargo theft, but it also results in significant loss of 
industry and employee efficiency when numerous hours are lost to 
undoing operational, reputational, and other business damage.
    This issue is particularly urgent for small and mid-size carriers 
who lack the resources to absorb these losses, navigate a fragmented 
fraud-reporting system, or put the extensive security protocols in 
place to prevent becoming a victim in the first place. Congress can 
play a critical role by partnering with industry to modernize broker 
registration and oversight requirements, ensure FMCSA dedicates 
appropriate resources to enforcement and fraud prevention, and support 
interagency coordination with law enforcement. FMCSA is already in the 
process of modernizing its registration and other cyber systems to weed 
out and prevent fraud in the trucking industry while creating a more 
seamless user experience for motor carriers. ATA applauds and supports 
the agency's efforts. We also encourage Congress to consider 
establishing clearer authority for FMCSA to act against fraudulent 
brokers and to increase transparency in the freight marketplace--
without undermining the commercial flexibility that allows legitimate 
brokers and carriers to operate efficiently.
    ATA has been grateful for bipartisan support of legislation such as 
the Combating Organized Retail Crime Act, which is currently pending 
before the Senate Judiciary Committee. We stand ready to work with this 
committee on legislative solutions to strengthen DOT and FMCSA programs 
to address fraud and theft, while preserving the functionality of a 
competitive freight market.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                              Chris Spear
Potential Tariff on Commercial Vehicles and Commercial Vehicle Parts
    Manufacturing supply chains in North America are deeply integrated. 
Parts and components sometimes travel back and forth multiple times 
between the United States, Canada, and Mexico before final 
manufacturing. When President Trump threatened 25 percent Tariffs on 
trade with these countries, the American Trucking Associations 
estimated this could increase the cost of new trucks by $35,000.

    Question 1. What would higher prices on new vehicles, or their 
parts, mean for your members?
    Answer. Motor carriers do not have the ability to absorb the 
significant price increases, nor can they easily pass along additional 
tariff-related costs to their customers. Trucking is a highly 
competitive business with more than 550,000 fleets in the U.S. Most of 
those fleets are small. In fact, 95.5 percent of motor carriers have 10 
or fewer trucks. Intense competition among those companies leads to 
very lean profit margins, with most fleets netting 5 percent or less in 
a normal year. This business is one of the few where the pool of 
competitors is not limited by size or location, with small fleets 
competing against large ones and east coast-based companies competing 
with those based on the west coast. This commonly results in 
underbidding, which strains margins and reduces the flexibility to pass 
along increased operating costs to customers.
    As an example of this intense competition and the impacts, just 
look at industry trends over the last couple of years. After the 
initial boom in freight during the early part of the global Covid-19 
pandemic, truck freight slowed dramatically. Households that were 
buying appliances and other household goods when travel was difficult 
pivoted to spending dramatically more on experiences including travel. 
As a result, trucking experienced a prolonged freight recession, where 
freight volumes contracted, freight rates fell, and the costs of 
operating a truck continued to rise. These trends pushed many fleets 
out of business and created financial hardship for those that remained.
    During this period of falling volumes and contracting freight 
rates, motor carriers faced much higher costs. According to the 
American Transportation Research Institute (ATRI), the cost to operate 
a truck one mile, excluding fuel, surged over 19 percent in just a 
couple of years. As previously mentioned, it is difficult for carriers 
to pass along these added expenses particularly when freight rates are 
declining. To preserve financial flexibility in the face of higher 
truck prices, fleets frequently chose to cut or postpone truck 
purchases.
    If forced to adapt to increasing costs due to Section 232 tariffs, 
many fleets will likely choose to hold on to older equipment and 
extended trade cycles. While this is not ideal, and likely to cause 
some operational challenges, it is not unreasonable for them to extend 
trade cycles. In 2024 the average age of the active Class 8 truck fleet 
was 5.69 years, equivalent to the average of this measure over the last 
ten years and 4.4 percent below the average over the last 20 years.
    In short: carriers are not keeping their trucks for as long as they 
used to, suggesting that many fleets have the ability to maintain their 
current equipment and can extend their trade cycles. This really would 
be the only option for most motor carriers since absorbing higher truck 
prices and passing them along to customers is not feasible.

    Question 2. How would a tariff on imported commercial vehicle parts 
impact the cost of purchasing and repairing commercial vehicles?
    Answer. In recent years, due to several factors including 
environmental regulations, the price of new Class 8 tractors has 
surged. In fact, a recent analysis from the American Transportation 
Research Institute (ATRI) showed that the average purchase price of new 
Class 8 trucks has surged from less than $130,000 in 2014 to $170,000 
in 2023. Even more compelling, that increase was most significant 
between 2021 and 2023, with the average price jumping 21 percent from 
roughly $140,000 to $170,000. Based on those current prices, ATA 
estimates that if a 25 percent tariff was applied to imported heavy-
duty Class 8 tractors from Mexico, with no rebates for U.S. or USMCA 
content, the price of that tractor could increase by $30,000 or more.
    On top of those costs, motor carriers are also required to pay a 
Federal excise tax (FET) on the sale of new truck equipment. The FET on 
heavy-duty trucks is 12 percent of the purchase price. With a new Class 
8 truck costing an average of $170,000 (likely higher in 2025), a 25 
percent tariff applied to all new trucks from Mexico would increase the 
retail price to $200,000. This means that trucking companies would have 
to pay the 12 percent FET on the post-tariff price of $200,000, not 
$170,000. That brings the total price of a new truck, on average, to 
$224,000, which is simply cost prohibitive for most trucking companies. 
These numbers do not account for any maintenance costs, which would 
increase if the price for new parts increases, or the potential surge 
in insurances prices because of increased equipment costs.
    It should again be noted that trucking companies operate on very 
thin profit margins, leaving them with extremely limited ability to 
absorb higher prices. In 2023, the latest data available, most 
truckload sub-sectors, who buy a significant percentage of new 
tractors, saw their average operating margins plummet to low single-
digits. In that same year, the less-than-truckload (LTL) sector, which 
tends to have better margins, still only posted 12 percent operating 
margins.

    Question 3. If it is more expensive to maintain and replace parts 
on commercial vehicles, would there be an impact on safety on our 
roads?
    Answer. Absolutely. As motor carriers extend the lives of their 
trucks, it is likely that the highways will become less safe than they 
would have been under normal buying rates. Newer trucks are equipped 
with more advanced safety technology such as anti-lock braking systems, 
advanced emergency braking, forward collision warning, and electronic 
stability control, which makes them safer to drive and helps avoid 
accidents. A Section 232 tariff would likely impair highway safety 
progress if carriers are discouraged from purchasing new trucks due to 
high prices.
    Additionally, as larger fleets buy new trucks, they sell their 
three-to five-year-old trucks on the secondhand market. Smaller fleets 
often buy these trucks to replace the older ones that they operate. 
This cycle of purchasing used equipment benefits smaller carriers that 
cannot afford new trucks and contributes to the improvement in highway 
safety by allowing those smaller fleets to affordably phase out still-
older equipment. However, if larger fleets slow their purchases of new 
equipment, this cycle will be interrupted and smaller fleets won't have 
the access to a sufficient supply of newer used trucks, thus further 
impairing safety on America's roadways.
Freight Infrastructure Investments
    American businesses spend over $2 trillion annually on logistics 
costs. Highway congestion increases truck transportation costs by over 
$100 billion each year. Driving down these costs will allow businesses 
to hire more people and will decrease the costs of goods at the grocery 
store.
    In the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, I created the Mega grants 
program, which is tackling some of the worst congestion choke points in 
the nation, like the I-5 Bridge in WA, which is the 31st worst truck 
bottleneck in the nation, and the Brent Spence Bridge, which is the 
15th worst truck bottleneck according to your organization.

    Question 1. Do you think we need to continue funding the mega 
projects grant program in the next surface reauthorization?
    Answer. As you point out, highway congestion imposes very high 
direct costs on the trucking industry, which are ultimately passed on 
to consumers and make U.S. farmers and manufacturers less competitive 
globally. Congestion also reduces supply chain reliability, which 
imposes additional costs on shippers. The American Transportation 
Research Institute (ATRI) has identified the top 100 highway 
bottlenecks nationwide. These bottlenecks are responsible for a 
disproportionate share of freight congestion costs. Addressing these 
bottlenecks often requires a significant investment, one that states 
may not be able to cover on their own. The Mega Grant program, with its 
focus on projects with significant national or regional impacts and 
high project costs, is ideally situated to help move major bottleneck 
projects forward, and ATA supports its continued funding, with 
additional resources. ATA also supports creation of a new discretionary 
program focused solely on addressing the most costly highway 
bottlenecks.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Amy Klobuchar to 
                              Chris Spear
Distracted Driving Prevention
    In your testimony, you described the need to combat distracted 
driving among all roadway users. In 2021, I passed my SAFE to DRIVE Act 
to provide additional funding to states to enforce distracted driving 
laws.

    Question 1. Can you expand on the importance of law enforcement in 
addressing distracted driving?
    Answer. Enforcement is a critical tool for reducing distracted 
driving. However, its effectiveness relies on two key factors. First, 
laws must be clear, simple, and enforceable. Law enforcement must be 
able to utilize statutes and act when a driver is actively holding or 
visibly using a device while driving. Distracted driving laws that 
focus only on certain activities like talking or texting with 
exceptions for certain applications or utilities, such as GPS mapping 
or making phone calls, or that provide distracted driving as a 
secondary offense make enforcement of these laws challenging, if not 
impossible in some scenarios. Additionally, laws that are well-
written--clear, simple, and enforceable--allow for outreach and 
education that amplifies the effects of enforcement. Clear and simple 
laws are much easier to message to educate the public on the dangers of 
distracted driving, how they can comply with the law, and the legal and 
financial consequences for failing to do so. Based on the realities of 
limited staffing and resources, enforcement can only direct eyes on a 
small portion of drivers only part of the time. However, amplified 
outreach efforts allow law enforcement's efforts to motivate a much 
larger audience to remain safe and focused while behind the wheel.
    The State of Ohio recently passed updated distracted driving laws--
backed by strong support from the state's legislature, governor, and 
executive agencies--which has led to sizable reductions in distracted 
driving and crashes in their state. Two years after Ohio's handheld-
device ban became enforceable as a primary offense (effective April 
2023), the tougher distracted-driving law led to an 8 percent decline 
in crashes, 3 percent fewer injuries, and a 4 percent reduction in 
fatalities statewide after two years. In the first full year of 
enforcement alone (October 2023--October 2024), the state saw 1,112 
fewer distracted-driving crashes and a 19.4 percent drop in fatal 
crashes, around 138 lives saved. This law and enforcement gains 
corresponded with nearly 15,400 fewer overall motor-vehicle crashes 
year-over-year, underscoring the law's early success. However, these 
results did not require a significant increase in actual enforcement 
efforts as the clear language of the statute and effective messaging by 
the state to drivers was enough to drive measurable change.
    Additionally, ATA is a member of the National Distracted Driving 
Coalition and recommends the committee reach out to the Coalition for 
more information on Ohio's efforts specifically or for more information 
on best practices around laws, policies, outreach, and analysis. ATA 
has assembled its own Distracted Driving Working Group charged with 
examining how the trucking industry can play a role in ensuring fewer 
instances of distraction on our Nation's roadways among all types of 
drivers.

    Question 2. In addition to law enforcement, what other efforts can 
be made to prevent distracted driving in the trucking industry?
    Answer. Much like enforcement, commercial fleets and the trucking 
industry rely on outreach to amply efforts to prevent distracted 
driving. Increasingly, commercial drivers report witnessing passenger 
car drivers distracted--whether that be using a device, eating, or 
applying makeup--on our Nation's roadways, posing an increased risk of 
crash especially when driving in the proximity of a large truck. 
Informing the public of the risks associated with distracted driving 
near large trucks--let alone how to drive while focused on the road 
near a large truck--is critical. However, fleets often lack resources 
for distracted driving prevention and messaging to the broader driving 
public. Additionally, fleets must focus on educating and protecting 
their own drivers. They may set internal policies based on local laws, 
rely on outreach produced by others to educate their drivers, and/or 
have limited opportunities to conduct that outreach face to face. By 
bolstering the resources and attention given to distracted driving laws 
and the outreach surrounding those laws, we also improve the resources 
for fleets to update their policies and outreach. It is also worth 
noting that the best practices around commercial vehicle distracted 
driving are still being developed. Many ATA members have adopted 
driver-facing cameras which can detect handheld device use. Fleets are 
still developing their policies around cameras, trying to balance 
safety with legitimate concerns about privacy, security, and liability. 
Outreach efforts can go beyond the general public to help identify and 
highlight best practices around in the trucking industry and how new 
technologies are reducing distracted driving in trucks.
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  Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to 
                              Chris Spear
Truck Parking
    In 2023 a Greyhound bus traveling westbound on I-70 from 
Indianapolis, Indiana to St. Louis, Missouri experienced a deadly crash 
in Highland, Illinois while exiting at a rest area. The bus crashed 
into three trucks which were parked on the shoulder of the exit ramp. 
Three bus passengers were killed. The driver and 11 of the other 
passengers were injured.
    NTSB found that a contributing factor was the three trucks parked 
on the shoulder of the exit ramp. The lack of available truck parking 
remains a major problem, not just for the trucking industry, but for 
the traveling public, as this horrible incident so tragically 
illustrates.
    Last Congress, Senators Lummis and Kelly introduced the Truck 
Parking Safety Improvement Act to provide Federal grants to expand 
parking for commercial trucks. I joined several of my colleagues on 
both sides of the aisle in cosponsoring this bill, but unfortunately it 
didn't pass.

    Question 1. As Congress works on the next Surface Transportation 
Reauthorization bill, what would you recommend we do to increase truck 
parking across the country, and how would you recommend we pay for it?
    Answer. The lack of truck parking is a perennial challenge, and 
each year truck drivers identify it as their number one or two concern. 
According to the USDOT, 98 percent of truck drivers state that they 
regularly have difficulty finding a safe place to park for the night. 
This is an issue that impacts not only highway safety but also supply 
chain productivity and workforce development for the trucking industry. 
It is hard to attract the next generation of truck driver (particularly 
women, who only account for 7 percent of drivers currently on the road) 
to enter the profession if those individuals cannot be guaranteed 
access to safe, well-lit facilities.
    ATA is extremely grateful for your support of the Truck Parking 
Safety Improvement Act in the previous Congress. We continue to believe 
that this legislation to ensure dedicated Federal investment in the 
construction of safe truck parking spaces nationwide is the best 
solution to the parking problem. We strongly support its 
reintroduction, and we strongly encourage you and your colleagues to 
support its passage. Funding should come from the Highway Trust Fund, 
either as a new, standalone discretionary program or a set-aside from 
an existing discretionary program.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to 
                              Chris Spear
Side Underride Guards
    In your written testimony, you call for the deployment of quote 
``proven safety technologies''. I'd like to call attention to one 
simple, lifesaving technology--side underride guards. In 2017, the 
Insurance Institute for Highway Safety conducted crash tests of 
trailers equipped with side underride guards at 35 mph and 40 mph. The 
test results demonstrate that the side underride guards prevented 
lethal passenger compartment intrusion, thereby saving lives.

    Question 1. If you support the deployment of proven safety 
technologies, under what circumstances would ATA support deployment of 
side underride guards?
    Answer. The testing conducted by IIHS and other groups on vehicular 
underride is encouraging, but we do not believe it is sufficient to 
establish a mandate. As noted by NHTSA, most of these devices are still 
being tested and are not yet commercially available. We also think it 
is unlikely that side underride protection for vehicles can be 
effective at higher speeds, as the energy that must be absorbed is too 
great for the materials and structures that are in current designs. 
This does not mean we are against side underride deployment. We support 
efforts for further research and testing into their effectiveness, and 
we think deployments are extremely helpful in learning more about their 
real-world performance and design requirements.
    In our comments responding to the NHTSA NPRM, we pointed out that 
if side underride guards are unlikely to be effective at higher speeds, 
some degree of crash prevention or mitigation would also be necessary 
to reduce the energy of the impact. These systems, such as Automatic 
Emergency Braking, are much more effective at reducing speed and energy 
compared to an impact guard. Our main point is that as side impact 
guards for vehicles continue to be tested and developed, we should 
focus efforts on safety technologies which could prevent or mitigate 
these types of crashes prior to impact. These technologies are 
available today, are relatively mature, but lack standardization in 
performance and testing.
    Regarding a mandate, ATA pointed out that trucking is not a 
monolith, and that there are many kinds of trucks, trailers, and 
operations. A mandate, particularly a broad one covering all newly 
manufactured trucks, would need to consider all these different types 
of vehicles and their operations. In the proposed mandate, any truck in 
any kind of operation would need to meet whatever minimum performance 
requirements would have been set forth. This would include dry vans, 
tankers, flatbeds, auto haulers, grain hoppers, dry bulk tanks, or any 
other type of vehicle. A mandate is only as effective as its minimum 
performance requirements, and much greater breadth of testing would be 
required to establish performance across all these different 
configurations.
    We also pointed out that all configurations of vehicles with low 
clearance must be careful around high-grade crossings, especially rail 
crossings. Some ATA members have stopped using aerodynamic skirts on 
the sides of certain vehicles for exactly this reason, despite their 
fuel economy benefits. These devices were getting stuck or damaged at 
rail crossings or on customer loading docks that have steep grades. 
This is a problem which engineers can potentially solve by developing 
appropriate design requirements. However, there was no consideration in 
the proposed mandate for whether the side impact designs would meet 
this safety requirement, or how changing designs to meet this 
requirement would impact performance.

    Question 2. Do you agree that side underrides guards on trucks save 
lives?
    Answer. Yes, but as shown in the NHTSA analysis only a portion of 
vehicle crashes involving side underride occur at speeds at which 
guards have been tested. As noted above, we see side underride 
protection as one of several potential ways to address these types of 
crashes. We see driver assistance technologies such as AEB as more 
mature, applicable in more types of crashes, and ultimately more 
effective at this time. We fully support additional testing and 
development of side underride guards to better understand their 
performance, including design requirements to address the kinds of 
issues described above.
Inclusion of Vulnerable Road Users in NHTSA's Cost Benefit Analysis
    A draft DOT report concluded that regulations requiring side 
underride guards were cost beneficial. According to a whistleblower and 
news reports, ATA lobbied DOT to alter the draft report. Subsequently 
the language and numbers of the draft report were altered. The draft 
report's cost benefit analysis concluded that preventing the deaths of 
vulnerable road users by requiring side underride guards was cost 
beneficial. Unfortunately, this life-saving research was not officially 
published.
    NHTSA has a pending Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on side 
underride guards, which would protect the lives of automobile 
occupants, as well as vulnerable road users like pedestrians, 
bicyclists and motorcyclists. NHTSA made assumptions in their cost 
benefit analysis to exclude whole categories of preventable deaths. 
Consequently, preventing the deaths by truck underride of vulnerable 
road users such as pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorcyclists was not 
even considered in the ANPRM's cost-benefit analysis. As a result of 
that and other omissions, NHTSA erroneously concluded that the cost of 
installing side guards exceeded the benefits.

    Question 1. Do you agree that vulnerable road users should be 
included in these statistics, which would likely change the cost 
benefit analysis?
    Answer. The engineering involved in preventing a vulnerable road 
user (VRU) underride is very different from that of preventing 
vehicular underride. We think a separate analysis for vulnerable road 
users is a better approach, so that solutions specific to VRUs (such as 
the Lateral Protection Device developed by Volpe) can have their cost/
benefit analyzed. The lower energy of impacts involved in VRU crashes 
also means there is more design flexibility for addressing operational 
requirements, including those described above. The geography of VRU 
crashes also means that efforts can be targeted to surface streets 
where VRU encounters are more prevalent, rather than on the highways 
where VRU encounters are rare. We recognize that side guards for VRU 
have been adopted in Europe and many other locations, and we are ready 
to work with stakeholders on addressing these crashes here in the U.S. 
Our role, as experts on the equipment and their operation, is to help 
convey the operational requirements of our freight network. Trucking is 
not one size fits all so, when introducing any safety technologies, we 
recommend focusing on use cases with the highest exposure to risk and 
lowest barriers to adoption.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Roger Wicker to 
                               Lewie Pugh
    OOIDA represents small trucking businesses, which currently make up 
over 96 percent of registered motor carriers in the U.S. Like many 
small businesses, owner-operators and small trucking fleets operate on 
the slimmest of margins. When costs unexpectedly arise, these margins 
become even smaller, making it challenging to remain profitable. Even 
nominal cost increases can force some operators out of business 
entirely.
    One controversial issue currently being debated is whether Congress 
should increase truck size and weight limits in the next Highway Bill. 
I have seen information from OOIDA stating that it could cost an owner-
operator upwards of $10,500 to add axles to a truck to operate at 
91,000 pounds--an increase from the current limit of 80,000 pounds that 
is being proposed by some in Congress. I am assuming extra weight would 
also increase the cost of fuel and general wear and tear for small 
trucking businesses.

    Can you explain your concerns about increasing the size and weight 
limits of trucks, as well as the financial and real-world impacts it 
would have on small business truckers specifically?
    Answer. Increasing size and weight is all cost and no benefit for 
truckers. Proponents of weight increases portray new limits as optional 
and maintain that carriers won't have to haul at these weights if they 
don't want to do so. But inevitably, the higher limits become the new 
standard as businesses and shippers seek out carriers that offer the 
increased capacity. As you point out, the cost to upgrade equipment 
would be prohibitive for many small-business truckers. Unlike 
specialized or large carriers, who either possess the necessary 
equipment or could transition their fleets over time while maintaining 
business, smaller trucking companies and owner-operators would be 
forced to immediately modify their equipment at great cost just to 
remain viable.
    Even if small trucking operations pay for upgrades, our experience 
has shown that they rarely see a return on this investment. This was 
demonstrated during a House Transportation & Infrastructure Committee 
hearing earlier this year. One of the Nation's largest retailers said 
that if they could put more weight on a truck hauling their product, 
they would not increase pay for truckers hauling additional freight.
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     Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Todd Young to 
                               Lewie Pugh
Outdated Regulations
    Outdated and overly burdensome regulations continue to hinder 
progress in both safety and innovation--particularly in the surface 
transportation sector. The upcoming surface transportation 
reauthorization presents a key opportunity to revisit and modernize 
these regulations under the FMCSA purview.

    Mr. Pugh, can you highlight any technologies your members are using 
that can increase safety? And are there specific regulations that you 
or your members have encountered that could be updated or reformed to 
better support safety advancements and innovation in this industry?
    The best way to increase safety is to properly train drivers. While 
there is a role for proven, cost-effective technology solutions, safety 
starts with the driver. At a minimum, Congress must require 30 hours 
behind-the-wheel training for those seeking a commercial driver's 
license (CDL). Additionally, lawmakers should pass S. 2114, which would 
require drivers demonstrate English language proficiency before being 
licensed and require CDL testing be conducted only in English. These 
are simple solutions that would have a more profound impact on highway 
safety than unproven technologies that have been marketed as safety 
devices.
    The electronic logging device (ELD) mandate imposed by Congress has 
done nothing to improve safety. In fact, crash rates continue to move 
in the wrong direction since the implementation of the ELD mandate. Our 
members have consistently indicated ELDs increase their stress, 
reporting a constant sense of `fighting the clock' to complete a haul 
or find a safe place to park before running out of allowable driving 
hours under rigid hours-of-service rules. Large motor carriers 
convinced lawmakers--many who now tout their support for deregulation--
that ELDs would dramatically improve safety. However, there is no 
indication the mandate has done anything to deliver on those promises. 
The time has come to repeal the ELD mandate.
    The development of autonomous vehicles (AVs) and Automated Driving 
Systems (ADS)-Equipped CMVs have the potential to drastically change 
the trucking industry, in particular its workforce. We feel elected 
officials, Federal regulators, and our industry partners must develop 
AV policies in a responsible manner that considers the perspective of 
American truckers, as we have yet to see any assurances that AVs can 
operate as safe as human drivers on our Nation's roads. While AVs might 
improve safety under certain conditions, they create new risks with 
dangerous outcomes.
    Over the last several years, the U.S. Department of Transportation 
(DOT) agencies have pursued respective rulemakings to ``ensure'' the 
safe introduction of ADS-equipped CMVs onto the Nation's roadways. Many 
of the questions included in these proposals remain hypothetical in 
nature and OOIDA has questioned why DOT has chosen to focus on 
regulations that may or may not be necessary depending how the 
technology performs. These regulatory proposals seem destined to fail 
without more concrete data about how AVs will function and how they 
will impact highway safety, the transportation workforce, and national 
security. OOIDA supports mandatory testing, safety, and crash reporting 
requirements that will provide the public with direct and easy access 
to information about AV performance.
Freight Fraud and Abuse
    In my opening statement I mentioned the prevalence of freight fraud 
and cargo theft. To summarize, Congress needs to act to prevent this 
pervasive practice from continuing.

    Mr. Pugh, how significant is this problem for your members and how 
can Congress partner with industry to combat this issue?
    Answer. Freight fraud is a serious and growing problem for small-
business truckers. This Committee has already taken a significant step 
towards fighting freight fraud by passing S. 337, the Household Goods 
Shipping Consumer Protection Act. It is imperative this legislation be 
signed into law.
    In the potential absence of regulatory improvements, Congress must 
also ensure brokers are compliant with existing Federal rules involving 
transparency. Circumventing or evading these requirements has led to a 
lack of transparency in the supply chain, which makes it more difficult 
for motor carriers--especially small trucking businesses--to protect 
themselves from fraudulent brokers. OOIDA has petitioned FMCSA to 
ensure brokers are no longer dodging transparency rules. If the agency 
fails to deliver substantial safeguards, Congress must do so in the 
next Highway Bill.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                               Lewie Pugh
Potential Tariff on Commercial Vehicles and Commercial Vehicle Parts
    Manufacturing supply chains in North America are deeply integrated. 
Parts and components sometimes travel back and forth multiple times 
between the United States, Canada, and Mexico before final 
manufacturing. When President Trump threatened 25 percent Tariffs on 
trade with these countries, the American Trucking Associations 
estimated this could increase the cost of new trucks by $35,000.

    Question 1. What would higher prices on new vehicles, or their 
parts, mean for your members?
    Answer. Small business truckers already struggle to afford new 
vehicles due to extremely high prices, which have increased 
dramatically over time due in large part to excessive environmental 
regulations. Any increase in the cost of new vehicles would further 
limit our members ability to purchase them. To keep costs down, OOIDA 
members often purchase used vehicles. Higher costs for new vehicles 
would likely drive up the cost of used vehicles over time, further 
limiting our members ability to acquire equipment.
    Increases in the cost of both new and used trucks will result in 
small business truckers simply operating their existing equipment 
longer. However, higher costs for parts will make it more expensive to 
maintain this older equipment.

    Question 2. How would a tariff on imported commercial vehicle parts 
impact the cost of purchasing and repairing commercial vehicles?
    Answer. This would likely result in higher costs, which may result 
in some motor carriers deferring maintenance.

    Question 3. If it is more expensive to maintain and replace parts 
on commercial vehicles, would there be an impact on safety on our 
roads?
    Answer. Yes, any conditions that force motor carriers to defer 
maintenance could negatively impact safety. However, Congress must also 
consider how excessive, unnecessary, and ineffective regulations have 
driven up the cost of new equipment without any discernable 
improvements to safety. Lawmakers must also be careful not to embrace 
new proposals that drive up operating costs without improving safety, 
including minimum insurance increases, and the mandated use of side 
underride guards and Universal Electronic Identifiers.
Driver Training
    You both represent truck drivers who also want the roads they are 
driving on to be safe. There are those who claim we need to make it 
easier for truck drivers to get a license by allowing them to get 
tested in any state, not just the state where they received their 
training.
    It may surprise some people that there are no Federal requirements 
for truck drivers to spend a certain amount of time training behind the 
wheel of a truck. However, in the state of Washington, drivers must 
have at least 30 hours of behind-the-wheel training.

    Question 1. What can we do to improve training for truck drivers so 
that our roads are safer?
    Answer. At a minimum, Congress must require 30 hours behind-the-
wheel training for those seeking a commercial driver's license (CDL). 
Additionally, lawmakers should pass S. 2114, which would require 
drivers demonstrate English language proficiency before being licensed 
and require CDL testing be conducted only in English.

    Question 2. Should we make it easier for prospective drivers to 
circumvent strong state requirements?
    Answer. No. However, OOIDA believes the most effective way to 
ensure drivers across the country are properly trained is to strengthen 
Federal Entry Level Driver Training requirements.
Overtime for Truck Drivers
    President Trump promised workers that their overtime earnings would 
not be taxed.

    Question 1. Was the promise fulfilled for truck drivers?
    Answer. Unfortunately, the Fair Labor Standards Act unfairly 
exempts truckers from being guaranteed overtime pay. As a result, 
truckers will not benefit from ``no taxes on overtime'' policies like 
most other blue-collar professionals. To solve this problem, Congress 
must pass S. 893, the Guaranteeing Overtime for Truckers Act, which 
will repeal this outdated exemption. Providing competitive and 
sustainable compensation will also help address the trucking industry's 
astronomically high driver turnover rates, which prevent truckers from 
gaining the experience to operate at the safest levels.
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   Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to 
                               Lewie Pugh
Question Topic: Truck Parking
    Question. In 2023 a Greyhound bus traveling westbound on I-70 from 
Indianapolis, Indiana to St. Louis, Missouri experienced a deadly crash 
in Highland, Illinois while exiting at a rest area. The bus crashed 
into three trucks which were parked on the shoulder of the exit ramp. 
Three bus passengers were killed. The driver and 11 of the other 
passengers were injured.
    NTSB found that a contributing factor was the three trucks parked 
on the shoulder of the exit ramp. The lack of available truck parking 
remains a major problem, not just for the trucking industry, but for 
the traveling public, as this horrible incident so tragically 
illustrates.
    Last Congress, Senators Lummis and Kelly introduced the Truck 
Parking Safety Improvement Act to provide Federal grants to expand 
parking for commercial trucks. I joined several of my colleagues on 
both sides of the aisle in cosponsoring this bill, but unfortunately it 
didn't pass.

    A. As Congress works on the next Surface Transportation 
Reauthorization bill, what would you recommend we do to increase truck 
parking across the country, and how would you recommend we pay for it?
    Answer. Congress must enact a long-term, sustainable program, like 
the Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act, to invest in parking capacity 
to address the national shortage of truck parking. Over the past two 
decades, numerous studies at the state and Federal level have examined 
the parking issue, and the problem is clear: there are shortages in 
every part of the nation, and more funding is needed for more spaces.
    Legislation like the Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act would 
dedicate Federal funding for expanding capacity. Currently, truck 
parking must compete with other more politically-popular projects, and 
given the consistent shortage, it is clear that parking is not being 
prioritized how it should be.
    The Truck Parking Safety Improvement Act has enjoyed broad 
bipartisan support as well as support from every segment of the 
trucking industry and beyond. This legislation is a ``must-pass'' as 
part of the next highway bill.
    On the question of funding, OOIDA has long advocated for increases 
to existing fuel taxes as a way to fund greater infrastructure 
investment. The current fuel taxes are the most efficient and 
straightforward way to collect revenue. Mechanisms, such as a vehicle-
miles-traveled fee or tolling, have significantly higher overhead costs 
and unanswered questions about implementation. We also support policies 
that would ensure all road users pay into the Highway Trust Fund, such 
as a fee on electric and hybrid vehicles.
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    Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to 
                               Lewie Pugh
    Question. Side Underride Guards:
    Do you agree that side underrides guards on trucks save lives?
    Answer. In certain conditions, side underride guards have 
demonstrated an ability to prevent passenger compartment intrusion in 
passenger vehicles. However, testing has been limited to extremely 
narrow circumstances, which are not reflective of highway driving 
conditions. The true safety performance of these devices cannot be 
determined until they are tested in a wide variety of conditions, 
including varying speeds and angles of impacts. Additionally, we have 
not seen any research on the safety outcomes associated with vehicle 
deflection resulting from impacts with side underride guards. OOIDA 
remains staunchly opposed to any Federal side underride guard mandate.
    Rather than requiring the use of impractical, costly, and unproven 
devices, the best way to increase safety is to properly train drivers. 
While there is a role for proven, cost-effective technology solutions, 
safety starts with the driver. At a minimum, Congress must require 30 
hours behind-the-wheel training for those seeking a commercial driver's 
license (CDL). Additionally, lawmakers should pass S. 2114, which would 
require drivers demonstrate English language proficiency before being 
licensed and require CDL testing be conducted only in English. These 
are simple solutions that would have a more profound impact on highway 
safety than a side underride guard mandate.
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     Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Todd Young to 
                            Fred C. Ferguson
Outdated Regulations
    Question. Outdated and overly burdensome regulations continue to 
hinder progress in both safety and innovation--particularly in the 
surface transportation sector. The upcoming surface transportation 
reauthorization presents a key opportunity to revisit and modernize 
these regulations under the FMCSA purview.
    Mr. Ferguson, can you highlight any technologies your members are 
using that can increase safety? And are there specific regulations that 
you or your members have encountered that could be updated or reformed 
to better support safety advancements and innovation in this industry?
    Answer. Many ABA members have proactively invested in advanced 
safety technologies that not only protect passengers but also help 
prevent accidents before they occur. These include collision mitigation 
systems (such as active cruise braking and autonomous emergency 
braking), lane departure warning systems, electronic stability control, 
and speed monitoring technology. Several operators have also adopted 
telematics platforms to monitor driver performance and vehicle 
diagnostics in real time, supporting both safety and operational 
efficiency.
    However, despite these advancements, several outdated or overly 
broad regulations create barriers to innovation. For example:

   Hours of Service (HOS) rules, while critical for safety, are 
        still largely modeled on trucking operations rather than 
        passenger service, limiting flexibility in how rest and driving 
        time are scheduled--even when modern fatigue management tools 
        are in place.

   Speed limiter mandates were developed with freight carriers 
        in mind and don't account for the motorcoach industry's unique 
        operating characteristics and proven safety record. Imposing a 
        single speed threshold could inadvertently increase congestion 
        risks and undermine safety benefits.

   CSA/SMS scoring methodologies don't always accurately 
        reflect motorcoach safety performance and can penalize smaller 
        or seasonal operators whose data sets don't fit the freight 
        model.

   CDL testing and credentialing processes often remain paper-
        based and slow to adapt to modern training and assessment 
        tools, delaying the onboarding of qualified drivers.

    The upcoming surface transportation reauthorization is a pivotal 
chance to modernize these frameworks. By aligning regulatory 
requirements with current technologies and safety practices, Congress 
and FMCSA can support an environment where innovation is encouraged 
rather than hindered--and where passenger safety remains the top 
priority.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                            Fred C. Ferguson
Potential Tariff on Commercial Vehicles and Commercial Vehicle Parts
    Manufacturing supply chains in North America are deeply integrated. 
Parts and components sometimes travel back and forth multiple times 
between the United States, Canada, and Mexico before final 
manufacturing. When President Trump threatened 25 percent Tariffs on 
trade with these countries, the American Trucking Associations 
estimated this could increase the cost of new trucks by $35,000.

    Question 1. What would higher prices on new vehicles, or their 
parts, mean for your members?
    Answer. On behalf of the U.S. motorcoach industry, higher prices on 
new motorcoaches or their critical components would have profound 
negative impacts on operators and the communities they serve. Because 
there are currently no motorcoaches manufactured within the United 
States, our industry is entirely reliant on imports from Canada and 
Europe to modernize fleets. If tariffs are imposed, the resulting cost 
increases would:

   Raise trip prices for schools, seniors, rural communities, 
        and military transport, all of whom depend on affordable 
        motorcoach service.

   Force smaller operators--who make up over 80 percent of our 
        industry--to delay or forgo fleet replacement, undermining both 
        safety and environmental progress.

   Slow recovery from the pandemic, which already caused the 
        loss of 50 percent of operating companies.

    Recent data already show new motorcoach sales are down 5.6 percent 
this year, after a strong rebound in 2024. Tariffs inject further 
uncertainty into purchasing decisions, eroding the confidence operators 
need to invest in newer, safer vehicles.

    Question 2. How would a tariff on imported commercial vehicle parts 
impact the cost of purchasing and repairing commercial vehicles?'
    Answer. A tariff on imported parts would directly increase the cost 
of maintaining and repairing motorcoaches--many of which must stay in 
service well beyond their intended life cycle, particularly for small 
and mid-sized family-owned companies operating on thin margins. While 
key components like engines and transmissions are often domestically 
produced, many systems and assemblies--such as electrical components 
and specialized safety equipment--must be sourced internationally.
    This would lead to:

   Higher repair costs, passed along to consumers who rely on 
        motorcoaches for commuting, tourism, and essential 
        transportation.

   Longer downtime, as operators struggle to find affordable 
        replacement parts.

   Further pressure on smaller fleets, reducing service 
        availability and potentially triggering more business closures.

   There may additionally be reduction of some vehicle useful 
        life as good preventative maintenance practices may not be 
        implemented on schedule, potentially impacting the resale value 
        of used vehicles.

    At a time when the industry is still working to recover capacity 
lost during COVID-19, additional cost burdens from tariffs could 
reverse hard-won gains and destabilize service nationwide.

    Question 3. If it is more expensive to maintain and replace parts 
on commercial vehicles, would there be an impact on safety on our 
roads?
    Answer. Yes--making it more expensive to purchase new motorcoaches 
or maintain existing ones would directly undermine safety progress. The 
motorcoach sector has an outstanding safety record, accounting for just 
0.015 percent of all U.S. roadway fatalities over a recent five-year 
period. But maintaining this record depends on operators being able to 
refresh fleets and adopt new safety technologies.
    When costs rise due to tariffs, operators are forced to:

   Delay fleet replacement, continuing to run older vehicles 
        without the latest safety design and technology.

   Postpone installation of advanced systems, such as collision 
        mitigation and electronic stability control, which help prevent 
        crashes.

   Divert limited resources from training and preventive 
        maintenance, further risking operational safety.

    Because motorcoaches are essential for evacuations during 
disasters, military transportation, and rural mobility, any policy that 
slows fleet renewal can harm public safety far beyond the companies 
themselves.
    In short, tariffs on motorcoaches and their parts will mean higher 
costs, fewer safety advancements, and reduced access to vital 
transportation. With no U.S. manufacturing alternatives for complete 
motorcoaches, we urge policymakers to exclude motorcoaches and their 
components from any increased tariffs, in recognition of the industry's 
essential role in the economy and transportation infrastructure.
    I'd be glad to share more data or meet with your teams to further 
discuss these critical issues.
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  Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to 
                            Fred C. Ferguson
Question Topic: Motorcoach Driver Fatigue
    Question 1. In 2023 a Greyhound bus traveling westbound on I-70 
from Indianapolis, Indiana to St. Louis, Missouri experienced a deadly 
crash in Highland, Illinois while exiting at a rest area. The bus 
crashed into three trucks which were parked on the shoulder of the exit 
ramp. Three bus passengers were killed. The driver and 11 of the other 
passengers were injured.
    According to the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), the 
probable cause of the crash was the bus's departure from the travel 
lanes onto the shoulder of the exit ramp due to fatigue. NTSB found 
that a contributing cause was the driver's irregular work-rest schedule 
and prolonged time awake.
    NTSB recommended that the American Bus Association inform its 
members about the Highland, Illinois crash and urge them to develop 
fatigue management programs to educate drivers and other employees 
about fatigue, its causes, and its countermeasures.

    A. When will the American Bus Association complete its 
implementation of this NTSB recommendation?
    Answer. ABA appreciates the opportunity to work with the National 
Transportation Safety Board on initiatives to improve highway and 
motorcoach safety. ABA expects to complete all of the aspects of the 
NTSB recommendation by February 2026. To date, ABA has sent out 3 
different communications briefing our members on the details and 
findings of the crash as well as recommended activities to improve 
their safety posture. We have also invited the NTSB to attend ABA 
safety meetings to brief our members on the findings of the recent 
crash as well as incorporated education sessions focusing on the safety 
management cycle into in-person safety meetings of motorcoach operators 
taking place in August as well as other regional meetings during the 
fall of 2025. We hope to have a session on fatigue management set for 
January of 2026. ABA already has a relationship with the Commercial 
Vehicle Safety Alliance, the current home of the North American Fatigue 
Management Program, as well as a scheduled presentation by them and 
distribution of some of their safety materials.
    The NTSB also made several recommendations to Greyhound to help 
mitigate driver fatigue, including revising its driver scheduling 
policies to reduce scheduling variability that results in irregular 
work-rest cycles.
    NTSB also made several recommendations to Greyhound to help 
mitigate driver fatigue, including revising its driver scheduling 
policies to reduce scheduling variability that results in irregular 
work-rest cycles.

    B. Does the American Bus Association support these NTSB 
recommendations to Greyhound?
    Answer. ABA supports the NTSB recommendations related to monitoring 
driver fatigue and fatigue management policies. We believe these are 
good safety practices included in their recommendations that all motor 
carriers (truck and bus) will benefit from being reminded about, and 
ABA's peer-led education offerings will feature future sessions 
focusing on fatigue management best practices. We look forward to 
sharing Greyhound's refined best practices and their successful 
implementation of these recommendations. Passenger safety remains ABA's 
number one priority and we look forward to sharing these resources and 
best practices with the broader motorcoach and passenger carrier 
industry.

    C. When can we expect Greyhound to implement these recommendations?
    Answer. ABA appreciates the question and the intent behind it, but 
ABA does not have insight as to the development of Greyhound's internal 
policies and operations and can not comment on Greyhound's behalf. We 
believe that they will work to implement these recommendations and 
revise their practices as quickly as practicable.
Question Topic: Truck Parking
    Question 2. NTSB found that a contributing factor to the crash in 
Highland, Illinois was the three trucks parked on the shoulder of the 
exit ramp. The lack of available truck parking remains a major problem, 
not just for the trucking industry, but for the traveling public, as 
this horrible incident so tragically illustrates.
    Last Congress, Senators Lummis and Kelly introduced the Truck 
Parking Safety Improvement Act to provide Federal grants to expand 
parking for commercial trucks. I joined several of my colleagues on 
both sides of the aisle in cosponsoring this bill, but unfortunately it 
didn't pass.

    A. As Congress works on the next Surface Transportation 
Reauthorization bill, what would you recommend we do to increase truck 
parking across the country, and how would you recommend we pay for it?
    Answer. While my testimony focused specifically on the motorcoach 
industry rather than trucking, I do want to emphasize that parking 
challenges also have serious implications for motorcoach operations and 
the traveling public more broadly. Motorcoaches frequently encounter 
scarce, inadequate, or poorly designed parking and staging areas, 
particularly near interchanges, rest areas, and key destinations. This 
creates safety hazards not only for professional drivers but also for 
passengers disembarking in areas never intended for passenger loading 
or unloading.
    From the perspective of motorcoach operators, any effort to 
increase safe, dedicated parking infrastructure will benefit the 
overall safety and efficiency of the surface transportation system. 
While I defer to my colleagues in the trucking sector on the specific 
scope of truck parking needs, I would recommend that Congress consider:

   Expanding eligibility under parking grant programs to 
        explicitly include motorcoach parking, staging, and passenger 
        facilities, to avoid similar risks for buses that must resort 
        to parking on shoulders or undesignated areas.

   Integrating parking improvements into broader infrastructure 
        investments, such as rest area modernization and multimodal 
        facility development, to serve both freight and passenger 
        carriers effectively.

   Ensuring Federal funds for parking are distributed in a way 
        that prioritizes safety-critical corridors and high-traffic 
        regions, including those frequented by motorcoach operators.

    As to funding, Congress could consider dedicating a modest portion 
of existing Highway Trust Fund revenues or leveraging discretionary 
grant programs like CMAQ, INFRA and RAISE, with clear set-asides to 
improve commercial vehicle parking capacity. Investing in safe parking 
infrastructure is a shared benefit: it protects drivers, passengers, 
and all roadway users.
    Again, while this issue primarily affects freight, it is vital that 
any Federal policy take into account the unique needs of motorcoaches 
as part of a comprehensive solution to parking shortages nationwide. 
ABA has and will continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with the 
freight community in seeking full implementation of Jason's Law and 
hopes that as this Committee and the Department of Transportation 
consider future truck parking initiatives that they consider all 
commercial vehicles within the sphere of fleets and commercial vehicle 
road users seeking parking alternatives.
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    Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to 
                            Fred C. Ferguson
Motorcoach Driver Fatigue
    Question. In your written testimony, you called for the tailoring 
of hours-of-service regulations for the motorcoach industry.
    Given the unique and irregular scheduling demands in the motorcoach 
industry, how do you plan to ensure that any changes still properly 
address the risks of driver fatigue?
    Answer. Yes, in my testimony, I emphasized the need to preserve 
industry-specific flexibility in Hours of Service (HOS) regulations for 
motorcoach operators. This flexibility is critical because motorcoach 
operations differ significantly from freight trucking in terms of trip 
lengths, schedules, passenger responsibilities, and rest opportunities. 
Our charter bus drivers often operate on irregular schedules that 
include waiting time at hotels, tourist attractions, or special 
events--time that, while not ``off-duty'' under current regulations, 
does not contribute to fatigue in the same way continuous driving does.
    That said, we fully agree that addressing driver fatigue must 
remain a top priority. Our approach is to work with FMCSA to develop 
tailored policies that reflect the realities of motorcoach operations 
while maintaining a strong safety framework. This includes:

   Supporting enhanced driver training and fatigue management 
        education.

   Encouraging the adoption of onboard technologies that 
        monitor driver behavior and provide early warnings of fatigue.

   Promoting data-driven oversight that considers the unique 
        operating patterns of motorcoach carriers rather than applying 
        one-size-fits-all rules designed for freight.

    We believe that a thoughtful, flexible approach--grounded in real-
world operating data--can both improve safety outcomes and avoid 
unnecessary disruptions to the essential passenger services our 
industry provides.
    ABA has worked with several entities in the past and in recent 
years on driver fatigue and distracted driving research, including with 
the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute, Washington State 
University, University of Michigan, University of South Florida, the 
National Academies of Science, the Transportation Research Board, 
FMCSA's Medical Review Board and other interested parties. We are in 
full support of future research studies, soliciting our members, 
vehicle manufacturers and other industry experts to fully engage and 
participate in further pursuit of this initiative if this Committee 
would like to request additional research efforts looking at motorcoach 
driver fatigue. We hope that a research-based and data-driven approach 
will be considered before moving forward with any changes to existing 
mandated service hour limits.
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    Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Roger Wicker to 
                            Sean M. O'Brien
    Question. In 2023, the year with the most recently available NHTSA 
and FMCSA crash data, there were 1,743 large-truck crashes in 
Mississippi. Sadly, 107 people lost their lives in those crashes, and 
1,019 people were injured. This is a 23 percent increase in fatalities 
compared to the previous year. From 2013 to 2023, truck crash 
fatalities rose by 70 percent in Mississippi. Despite this troubling 
trend, efforts to raise the gross vehicle weight limit in Congress 
persist in the lead-up to Reauthorization.
    In a recent letter to Congress, the International Brotherhood of 
Teamsters Law Enforcement League added its voice in opposition to 
increased truck size and weight limits, which include proposed Double 
33-foot trailers that would decrease a truck's stopping distance by 22 
feet as compared to today's double 28-foot trailers, while also 
increasing rollover propensity.

    Mr. O'Brien, could you please reiterate why the International 
Brotherhood of Teamsters continues to oppose proposals in Congress to 
increase the Federal gross vehicle size and weight limits, and expand 
on your knowledge of the safety dangers posed by longer configurations, 
like Double 33s, in particular?
    Answer. All available research, including that conducted by both 
the Department of Transportation and third parties, as well as the 
everyday experiences of Teamster drivers and law enforcement personnel 
have made abundantly clear the dangers presented by longer and heavier 
trucks. These vehicles and combinations, including double 33s and 
triples, are more difficult to operate, damage infrastructure like 
roads and bridges, and when involved in crashes result in more severe 
and fatal incidents. We thank Senate Wicker for his long-time 
opposition to truck size/weight increases and it is imperative that 
Congress reject efforts to increase length or weight in the upcoming 
surface transportation reauthorization.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                            Sean M. O'Brien
Potential Tariff on Commercial Vehicles and Commercial Vehicle Parts
    Manufacturing supply chains in North America are deeply integrated. 
Parts and components sometimes travel back and forth multiple times 
between the United States, Canada, and Mexico before final 
manufacturing. When President Trump threatened 25 percent Tariffs on 
trade with these countries, the American Trucking Associations 
estimated this could increase the cost of new trucks by $35,000.

    Question 1. What would higher prices on new vehicles, or their 
parts, mean for your members?

    Question 2. How would a tariff on imported commercial vehicle parts 
impact the cost of purchasing and repairing commercial vehicles?

    Question 3. If it is more expensive to maintain and replace parts 
on commercial vehicles, would there be an impact on safety on our 
roads?
    Answer. At this time, we do not have an estimate on the impact of 
potential tariffs on the commercial motor vehicle industry. Broadly, 
the Teamsters believe that targeted tariffs can play a role in 
reshoring jobs that have been sent abroad.
Truck Safety
    Tragically, on July 18th, a tanker truck carrying 9,000 gallons of 
diesel and gasoline overturned off of Highway 101 in Clallam County, 
Washington, spilling 3,000 gallons of hazardous material into Indian 
Creek. This spill threatened the drinking water of over 19,000 people 
in Port Angeles and contaminated a vulnerable habitat for salmon to 
spawn. Fortunately, no one was hurt. This incident demonstrates the 
importance of ensuring our trucks and truck drivers are safe.

    Question 1. Your members want the roads to be safe because they 
want to make it home to their families. What can we do to ensure that 
commercial vehicle drivers on our roads are safe?
    Answer. As discussed below, Congress should ensure that drivers are 
receiving high-quality training at the time of initial licensure and 
when receiving additional endorsements, including for hazardous 
materials. It is also imperative that the Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration has the necessary resources to oversee and inspect motor 
carriers of all sizes and take enforcement action as necessary. 
Finally, we encourage Congress to examine specific and novel models of 
trucking operations, like those implemented by Amazon and its vast 
fleet of contracted services and take action to ensure that companies 
cannot exploit current safety regulations to operate dangerously.
Autonomous Vehicles
    As you said in your testimony, the Federal government has not 
developed any safety requirements for self-driving trucks.

    Question 1. Since there are no safety requirements on the Federal 
level, do you think it is wise for Congress to prevent states from 
ensuring autonomous cars and trucks are safe?
    Answer. It is an unequivocally bad policy for Congress to restrict 
states from taking responsible actions on autonomous vehicles to keep 
their citizens safe. While certain authorities, like equipment 
standards, are clearly the responsibility of the Federal government, 
States must continue to be allowed to exercise their rights when it 
comes to the operations of autonomous vehicles on their roads. As 
mentioned, efforts to restrict states are particularly offensive when 
the Federal government to date has provided no alternatives. Preventing 
states from acting is little more than a giveaway to the industry to 
operate in any manner it sees fit, even if doing so puts lives in 
danger.

    Question 2. What steps should Congress take regarding autonomous 
vehicles?
    Answer. Congress must create and mandate a national framework for 
autonomous vehicles that encompasses manufacturing and equipment 
standards at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, 
operational requirements overseen by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety 
Administration and addresses workforce impacts of the adoption of these 
technologies. We encourage Congress to adopt proposals outlined in the 
``Teamsters Autonomous Vehicle Federal Policy Principles''.
Speed-limiters
    Earlier this month, the Trump administration withdrew a proposed 
rule that would have required speed-limiting devices on commercial 
vehicles. Excessive speed is a leading cause of fatal accidents on our 
roads.

    Question 1. Do you believe speed-limiting devices improve safety 
for commercial vehicle drivers and others on the roads?
    Answer. We have long supported the requirement for speed-limiters 
on commercial vehicles. Teamster members across multiple fleets 
currently operate vehicles with these technologies installed, and we 
believe that they play a role in improving safety and reducing speed 
related accidents.
Driver Training
    You both represent truck drivers who also want the roads they are 
driving on to be safe. There are those who claim we need to make it 
easier for truck drivers to get a license by allowing them to get 
tested in any state, not just the state where they received their 
training.
    It may surprise some people that there are no Federal requirements 
for truck drivers to spend a certain amount of time training behind the 
wheel of a truck. However, in the state of Washington, drivers must 
have at least 30 hours of behind-the-wheel training.

    Question 1. What can we do to improve training for truck drivers so 
that our roads are safer?
    Answer. Congress should:

  1)  Ensure that the Federal Motor Carrier Safety (FMCSA) is properly 
        auditing the Training Provider Registry, and removing bad 
        actors who are providing substandard and/or predatory training 
        programs.

  2)  Create new opportunities through a competitive grant program for 
        high-quality entry level training programs. These grants should 
        be constructed to give specific consideration to programs 
        operated by labor organizations which provide pathways to 
        employment.

  3)  FMCSA and Congress should examine current Federal Entry Level 
        Driver Training requirements and consider mandating reasonable 
        behind-the-wheel hours requirements.

    Question 2. Should we make it easier for prospective drivers to 
circumvent strong state requirements?
    Answer. In considering flexibilities relating to training and 
licensure, Congress should not create an environment where prospective 
drivers are able to ``forum shop'' the licensing process. Creating 
incentives to receive licensure in a certain state because of the 
presence of less stringent requirements or more lax testing standards 
will ultimately decrease road safety.
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   Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Tammy Duckworth to 
                            Sean M. O'Brien
Question Topic: Truck Parking
    Question. In 2023 a Greyhound bus traveling westbound on I-70 from 
Indianapolis, Indiana to St. Louis, Missouri experienced a deadly crash 
in Highland, Illinois while exiting at a rest area. The bus crashed 
into three trucks which were parked on the shoulder of the exit ramp. 
Three bus passengers were killed. The driver and 11 of the other 
passengers were injured.
    NTSB found that a contributing factor was the three trucks parked 
on the shoulder of the exit ramp. The lack of available truck parking 
remains a major problem, not just for the trucking industry, but for 
the traveling public, as this horrible incident so tragically 
illustrates.
    Last Congress, Senators Lummis and Kelly introduced the Truck 
Parking Safety Improvement Act to provide Federal grants to expand 
parking for commercial trucks. I joined several of my colleagues on 
both sides of the aisle in cosponsoring this bill, but unfortunately it 
didn't pass.

    A. As Congress works on the next Surface Transportation 
Reauthorization bill, what would you recommend we do to increase truck 
parking across the country, and how would you recommend we pay for it?
    Answer. The Teamsters have endorsed the Truck Parking Safety 
Improvement Act, have included it among our union's priorities for 
reauthorization and look forward to its inclusion in the final 
legislation. We support the creation of a new authorization under Part 
180 as provided in the bill, and if enacted will support full funding 
for the program in the appropriations process.

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