[Senate Hearing 119-141]
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                      IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME: 
                       SHOULD WE LOCK THE CLOCK?

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                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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       SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                       TED CRUZ, Texas, Chairman
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             MARIA CANTWELL, Washington, 
ROGER WICKER, Mississippi                Ranking
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                  BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii
DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska                 EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts
MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee          GARY PETERS, Michigan
TODD YOUNG, Indiana                  TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin
TED BUDD, North Carolina             TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois
ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri               JACKY ROSEN, Nevada
JOHN CURTIS, Utah                    BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
BERNIE MORENO, Ohio                  JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
TIM SHEEHY, Montana                  JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia  ANDY KIM, New Jersey
CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming              LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware
                 
                 
                 Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
           Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
                     Liam McKenna, General Counsel
                   Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
                 Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
                     Jonathan Hale, General Counsel
                            
                            
                            C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on April 10, 2025...................................     1
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................     1
Statement of Senator Blunt Rochester.............................     2
Statement of Senator Curtis......................................    38
Statement of Senator Lujan.......................................    45
Statement of Senator Young.......................................    47
Statement of Senator Markey......................................    50

                               Witnesses

Hon. Rick Scott, U.S. Senator from Florida.......................     4
Scott Yates, Founder, Lock the Clock Movement....................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................     6
Jay Karen, Chief Executive Officer, National Golf Course Owners 
  Association....................................................     7
    Prepared statement...........................................     9
Dr. Karin Johnson, Practicing Physician and Professor of 
  Neurology, UMass Chan School of Medicine Baystate--On Behalf of 
  the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.........................    16
    Prepared statement...........................................    18
Dr. David Harkey, President, Insurance Institute for Highway 
  Safety.........................................................    34
    Prepared statement...........................................    35

                                Appendix

Response to written questions submitted to Scott Yates by:
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    57
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    57
    Hon. Ben Ray Lujan...........................................    59
    Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester....................................    59
Response to written question submitted to Jay Karen by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    60
Response to written questions submitted to Dr. Karin Johnson by:
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    60
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    61
Response to written questions submitted to Dr. David Harkey by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    63
    Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester....................................    65

 
                      IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME: 
                       SHOULD WE LOCK THE CLOCK?

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                        THURSDAY, APRIL 10, 2025

                                       U.S. Senate,
        Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:01 a.m., in 
room SR-253, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Ted Cruz, 
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Cruz [presiding], Scott, Young, Curtis, 
Blunt Rochester, Lujan, and Markey.

              OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ, 
                    U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS

    The Chairman. Good morning, everyone. Welcome back, Senator 
Scott, good to see you.
    The Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and 
Transportation will come to order.
    Twice a year we find ourselves adjusting our clocks, 
shifting an hour of daylight forward in the spring, springing 
it forward, and falling back in the fall.
    For many Americans this biannual ritual is a minor 
inconvenience, something we endure without giving it much 
thought, but when you take a closer look at the implications of 
changing the clocks, its impact on our economy, our health, and 
our everyday lives, we can see that this practice is more than 
an annoyance.
    First, let us talk about energy savings, which has long 
been the most common justification for Daylight Saving Time. 
The original idea behind Daylight Saving Time was to reduce 
energy consumption, by making better use of daylight during the 
longer days of summer. The idea was simple, fewer hours of 
darkness meant less electricity consumption for lighting and 
heating.
    This concept might have made sense in the early 20th 
century, when our economy and our homes relied much more 
heavily on energy consumption tied to daylight hours.
    Today, the data show energy savings from Daylight Saving 
Time are de minimis if not entirely nonexistent, advances in 
technology, particularly in lighting and climate control, and 
increased domestic energy production, have drastically reduced 
the relative price of energy compared to the past, changing 
clocks biannually impacts our health.
    Research has shown that the abrupt shift in time, 
especially the spring transition, when we lose an hour of sleep 
disrupts our internal circadian rhythms and cause us sleep 
deprivation. This leads to increased risks of health problems, 
including higher rates of heart attacks, strokes, and even car 
accidents immediately following the time change.
    In fact, studies have shown that there is a spike in 
workplace injuries and fatal car crashes during the days after 
we shift our clocks forward. The disruption to sleep patterns 
and the result in fatigue can have consequences on our 
productivity, mental health, and well-being.
    The time change is also an inconvenience for families. For 
parents, especially those with young children, adjusting to the 
time change is no simple task, sleep disruptions can result in 
cranky children, restless nights, and a difficult adjustment 
period that can last for weeks.
    We also need to consider the economic and social impact. 
There are arguments that longer daylight hours in the evening 
can boost economic activity in certain sectors, such as retail, 
tourism, and entertainment.
    For instance, late afternoon golf leagues account for up to 
40 percent of the annual revenue of some courses, while a 
majority of golf instructors reported that nearly 50 percent of 
their lessons are taught after 4 p.m. A golf course would lose 
an estimated $500,000 annually if it lost the extra hour of 
daylight in the summer. Of course, the early birds who like 7 
a.m. tee times might be a bit annoyed with this shift.
    Many states and countries, like Mexico, and Russia, and 
Turkey, have already taken steps to move away from changing 
clocks twice a year. Hawaii and Arizona have opted out of the 
practice, and other countries in the past 10 years have either 
abolished it or are in the process of doing so.
    Congress has the authority to end this outdated and harmful 
practice. This hearing is an excellent opportunity to examine a 
thoughtful and rational approach to how we manage time. Whether 
we lock the clock on Standard Time year round or on Daylight 
Savings Time, let us think carefully about our health, our 
economy, and well-being, and embrace a sensible approach to 
time management. And I will now turn to Senator Blunt Rochester 
for her opening.

            STATEMENT OF HON. LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM DELAWARE

    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for 
holding this important hearing. In our increasingly connected 
world, it is more important than ever that we are thoughtful 
about what it would mean to pick a permanent time for our 
country. The Senate has tried this before, but the bill stalled 
as this body took a harder look at how time changes work state 
by state. What works in my home State of Delaware may not work 
in Washington State, But I know I speak for many Americans when 
I say it is time, it is time to figure this out.
    People across our country are tired of the constant cycle 
of falling back and springing forward. I mean, who has not 
forgotten to change their clock on their microwave, I think 
mine is still on the wrong time, and felt the immediate panic 
of waking up late for work? Or think about the parents of young 
children and pet owners who have to adjust sleep and feeding 
schedules twice a year.
    Some would say that these are just inconveniences. But the 
back and forth between Daylight Savings Time and Standard Time 
needs to change and needs to stop. We need to stop the clock. 
We need to find a solution and stick with it.
    Many states across our Nation have started to consider 
legislation to pick a permanent time. Some, like Delaware, have 
pushed for keeping Daylight Saving Time, the time we are in 
right now, permanently. Others have sought to keep the Standard 
Time, when we fall back, permanently.
    But here is the thing: these twice-yearly time changes have 
real impacts on real people. We know that changing the clock 
disrupts sleep, which can lead to negative health outcomes. 
Several studies have noted issues with mood disturbances, 
increased hospital admissions, and even heart attacks and 
strokes. We also know that being able to see the sun improves 
mental and physical health as well. But more than that, time 
changes can impact the safety of our communities. Darker 
commuting times increase the risk of injuries and even death on 
our way to school or work.
    My home state has one of the highest per capita rates of 
pedestrian fatalities, and dark roads with tired drivers make 
it more dangerous for pedestrians. The important thing is that 
we land on something consistent and make smart investments to 
keep people safe.
    For example, there were programs that we authorized in the 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law that focused on commonsense 
safety improvements, but they are set to expire this Congress. 
I hope the committee will keep this discussion in mind when it 
comes time to reauthorize these infrastructure investments, 
investments that could light, or that could light up dark 
streets, add rumble strips to medians, turn chaotic 
intersections into roundabouts, and more. These are the kinds 
of smart policy choices we can make to protect people year-
round, regardless of whether it is Daylight Saving Time or 
Standard Time.
    But the first step is getting us all on the same page. I am 
looking forward to today's conversation about the competing 
health, safety, and economic impacts of choosing a permanent 
time for our communities and moving the ball forward on this 
important issue.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I turn it back to you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Blunt Rochester. And I 
have to say, I think you have set a land-speed record for 
moving from the chair on the end all the way here. And I will 
just say Senator Cantwell probably needs to watch her back. And 
I am somewhat disappointed in your excellent remarks that we 
did not get you belting out the chorus of Cher's ``If I Could 
Turn Back Time.''
    Senator Blunt Rochester. I told you it is something that 
peps us up. We need the energy.
    The Chairman. Joining us today is our friend Senator Rick 
Scott from the Sunshine State to give remarks on his 
legislation, the Sunshine Protection Act.
    Senator Scott, welcome back to the Commerce Committee.

                 STATEMENT OF HON. RICK SCOTT, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM FLORIDA

    Senator Scott. First off, Senator Cruz, thank you for the 
opportunity. And Senator Blunt Rochester, you have done a 
better job keeping your seat in this committee also than I was 
able to.
    Thanks for the introduction and the invitation to introduce 
my bill, the Sunshine Protection Act, to finally lock the 
clock. Senator Cruz, I know your morning, it has been a tough 
week for you with the NCAA Championship. I do look forward to 
the one----
    The Chairman. Your time has expired.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Scott. All right. My bipartisan, Bicameral Sunshine 
Protection Act that will end the twice-yearly time change and 
make Daylight Savings Time the national year-round standard. I 
have the support of 17 of my colleagues here in the Senate and 
a House companion led by my friend Congressman Vern Buchanan 
from the Great State of Florida.
    I am sure all of us have heard from our constituents on 
this. The American people are sick and tired of changing their 
clocks twice a year. It is confusing, unnecessary, and 
completely outdated. It is an understatement to say that our 
Nation has changed since the United States began changing the 
clock over a century ago. For example, American households have 
electricity now. We also have self-driving cars, computers, and 
cell phones.
    Now, changing the clocks twice a year proves more of an 
annoyance to families than a benefit to them. In 2018, when I 
was Governor of Florida, I signed legislation that would allow 
the state to opt out of the practice of changing the time, and 
nearly two dozen other states have done the same, pending 
Federal approval that will come by passing the Sunshine 
Protection Act.
    The American people love having an extra hour of sunlight, 
especially in my State of Florida, where that means more time 
you can enjoy outdoors and activities with families. Studies 
also show the potential for reduced cardiac issues, stroke, and 
seasonal depression, reduced robberies, and benefits to the 
agricultural and overall economy with an extra hour of 
sunlight. This is a common-sense change to simplify and benefit 
the lives of Americans, and we have a great opportunity to 
finally get this done with President Trump on board to lock the 
clock.
    I want to thank the Committee for the consideration of the 
Sunshine Protection Act. I am optimistic we can get this 
passed, signed into law, and finally lock the clock.
    Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Scott. You are welcome to 
stay if you like, but I know you have a busy schedule, so if 
you need to attend other responsibilities, you certainly can do 
so. And the game was great, except for the final minutes. I 
would have liked to lock the clock with 1 minute remaining.
    [Laughter.]
    The Chairman. That would have been an excellent idea.
    Our first witness this morning is Scott Yates, the Founder 
of the Lock the Clock Movement. Mr. Yates started the movement 
to remove the biannual chore of changing the clock.
    Our second witness is Jay Karen. He is the CEO of the 
National Golf Course Owners Association, where he represents 
thousands of golf course owners across the country.
    Our third witness today is Dr. Karen Johnson, a practicing 
sleep medicine physician and professor of neurology at the 
University of Massachusetts, Chan School of Medicine, Baystate, 
she is here on behalf of the American Academy of Sleep 
Medicine.
    Our final witness is Dr. David Harkey. Dr. Harkey is the 
President of the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, which 
is an organization dedicated to reducing deaths, injuries, and 
property damage from motor vehicle crashes.
    Mr. Yates, you may give your opening statement.

              STATEMENT OF SCOTT YATES, FOUNDER, 
                    LOCK THE CLOCK MOVEMENT

    Mr. Yates. Thank you so much, Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member 
Blunt Rochester, and members of the United States Commerce 
Committee. Thank you for inviting me--thank you for inviting me 
here today.
    Allow me to start with a hypothetical. Imagine two people 
commit the exact same crime on the exact same day, and they are 
the same in every way. But today, one of them is out of prison, 
and one of them remains behind bars.
    What is the difference? The second man was sentenced on the 
Monday after we spring forward into Daylight Saving Time. 
Researchers at the University of Washington reviewed every 
criminal sentence handed down in America over an 11-year 
period, and found the single harshest day of sentencing of the 
whole year was that Monday in March, when judges, like all of 
us, had been jolted awake an hour earlier than their bodies had 
been expecting.
    That one seemingly harmless Government mandate, dialing our 
clocks back one hour means some people received harsher 
sentences than they otherwise would.
    The harm does not stop there. Both of your opening 
statements alluded to all of the problems that we have, and 
peer-reviewed studies consistently show that heart attacks go 
up, strokes, car crashes, even miscarriages spike in those days 
following the spring switch.
    A study from the University of Vienna found deaths, 
overall, just increase by 3 percent in those couple of days 
after the change. Medical errors go up, diabetics lose glucose 
control, crime goes up. Just yesterday, the Journal of 
Neurology published a report saying that more people get 
migraines in the days after the time change.
    And why do we do this; for the farmers? No. The story about 
the farmers was always just a myth that was created as a PR 
stunt by a retailer in Boston who wanted more daylight for 
shoppers to have more time to shop. We thought it would sound 
better if we said it was for the farmers.
    If changing the time twice a year is so deadly and such an 
outdated relic, why have not we fixed it yet? It is probably 
because of this issue we face about whether we should lock into 
permanent daylight or permanent Standard Time. I have seen 
countless polls, and I have talked to thousands of people about 
this. Most people do not actually prefer one or the other that 
much. They just want to stop the switching. There are valid 
arguments for either permanent choice.
    So what should Congress do? What should this committee do? 
My name is Scott Yates. I have been reading, writing, and 
testifying about this for nearly a decade, and I have this 
recommendation: Lock the clock, as this bill says, but after a 
2-year implementation. If we wait until 2027, we will continue 
to allow states to opt out and opt into Standard Time, just as 
Hawaii and most of Arizona have done.
    This is fundamentally a states-rights issue and a geography 
issue. Consider Indiana, Indiana, Indianapolis is roughly the 
same latitude as New York City, but about 700 miles west. For 
Congress to force Hoosiers to walk, to go to work and school in 
the dark only to accommodate barbecues in New York City seems 
rude. But as the Commerce Committee, you do have an interest in 
promoting a stable and predictable environment for commerce.
    That is why I suggest, Congress establish a firm date, 
2027, to permanently end the clock changing nationwide. States 
would then have ample time to decide if they want to remain in 
Daylight Saving Time or opt out and pick Standard Time. They 
would not have the option to continue the deadly twice-yearly 
switching.
    With clear Federal guidance, schools can evaluate and pick 
their own bell times. Businesses can plan confidently, free 
from the confusion caused by time changes. And states would 
even have time to hold elections to let the people decide 
directly.
    I started my remarks with that study about the judges, the 
reason researchers could that, and find so many other ways that 
the time change is harmful is DSC creates what scientists call 
a natural experiment. Scientists can compare real-world results 
about what happens when the time changes.
    Interestingly, in traditional experiments with lab rats, 
scientists are careful not to change the clocks for Daylight 
Saving Time for the rats because it is too disruptive.
    So my closing question for you today is this: At long last, 
can we treat our citizens with the decency that we treat our 
lab rats?
    Thank you. And I am open to any questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Yates follows:]

    Prepared Statement of Scott Yates, Founder, www.LockTheClock.net
    Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and members of the U.S. 
Senate Commerce Committee, Thank you for inviting me here today.
    Allow me to start with a hypothetical. Imagine two identical people 
commit the exact same crime on the exact same day. They are the same in 
every way, but today one of them is out of prison rebuilding his life, 
while the other remains behind bars, draining state resources.
    What is the difference?
    The second man was sentenced the Monday after we ``spring forward'' 
into Daylight Saving Time. Researchers at the University of Washington 
reviewed every criminal sentence handed down in America over an 11-year 
period and found the single harshest day of sentencing was that Monday 
in March, when judges, like all
    of us, had been jolted awake an hour earlier than their bodies 
expected. That one seemingly harmless act--dialing back our clocks one 
hour--means some people receive harsher sentences than they otherwise 
would.
    The harm doesn't stop there.
    Peer-reviewed studies consistently show that heart attacks, 
strokes, car crashes, and even miscarriages spike in the days following 
the spring switch. One study from the University of Vienna found that 
overall deaths increased by 3 percent following this annual clock 
change. Studies show other problems: Medical errors spike. Diabetics 
lose glucose control. Crime goes up. People are less empathetic and 
helpful.
    And why do we do this? For farmers?
    No. The story about farmers was always just a myth, created as a PR 
stunt by a retailer in Boston who wanted shoppers to have more daylight 
after work. He thought it would sound better to say it was for farmers.
    If changing the time twice a year is a deadly, outdated relic, why 
haven't we fixed it yet? I suspect it's because we're all too 
groggy after the time change to decide. But the real issue is simpler: 
we can't agree whether to adopt permanent Standard Time or permanent 
Daylight Time.
    I've seen countless polls and talked with thousands of people--most 
don't strongly prefer one time over the other; they just hate the 
switching. There are valid arguments for either permanent choice.
    So, what should Congress do?
    My name is Scott Yates and I've been reading and writing about this 
as a hobby for nearly a decade, and I have this recommendation: Lock 
the clock into permanent DST in two years, in 2027, while continuing to 
allow each state to opt out and remain in Standard Time if it decides 
to do so, as Hawaii and Arizona have already decided.
    This is fundamentally a states' rights issue.
    Consider Indiana. Indianapolis is roughly the same latitude as New 
York City but about 700 miles west. For Congress to force Hoosiers to 
commute and send children to school in winter darkness, only to 
accommodate barbecues in New York, feels . . . rude.
    But as the Commerce Committee, you do have an interest in promoting 
a stable and predictable environment for commerce.
    That's why I suggest Congress establish a firm date--2027--to 
permanently end clock-changing nationwide. States would then have ample 
time to decide if they want to do nothing and remain in Daylight Time 
or opt out and pick Standard Time. They wouldn't have the option to 
continue the deadly twice-yearly switching.
    With clear Federal guidance, schools can evaluate optimal start 
times and businesses can plan confidently, free from the confusion 
caused by time changes. States would even have time to hold elections 
to let the people decide directly.
    I started my remarks with that study about judges. The reason 
researchers could do that--and find in so many other ways that the 
time change is harmful--is that DST creates what scientists call a 
``natural experiment.'' Scientists can compare real world results about 
what happens with the time changes.
    Interestingly, in traditional experiments with lab rats, scientists 
are careful not to change the clocks for DST. It's too disruptive.
    So my closing question for you today is this: At long last, can we 
put aside partisanship and take action to treat our citizens at least 
as well as we treat our lab rats?
    Thank you, and I look forward to any and all questions.
    For a full briefing book, a state-by-state analysis, and a summary 
of the voluminous research into this topic, please see 
www.LockTheClock.net.

    The Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Yates, for a very interesting 
testimony.
    Mr. Karen.

STATEMENT OF JAY KAREN, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, NATIONAL GOLF 
                   COURSE OWNERS ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Karen. Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Chairman 
Cruz, Senator Blunt Rochester, and members of the Committee, 
for asking me to enter testimony on behalf of the members of 
the National Golf Course Owners Association on a pretty complex 
issue.
    We are headquartered in Charleston, South Carolina, and 
represent approximately 4,000 public courses, private clubs, 
municipal courses, and resorts throughout the United States. A 
little bit about the golf economy, many elected friends see 
golf simply as a game until it is time to talk about taxes, 
land use, water, employment matters, tourism, zoning, et 
cetera.
    What comes into view is a $102 billion industry employing 
nearly two million people across 15,000 properties and two 
million acres of land so that nearly 30 million Americans can 
enjoy a great walk outdoors with strangers, friends, and family 
while hitting a little white ball.
    Little known fact: 75 percent of golf courses in America 
are open to the public, and nearly $5 billion each year is 
raised for charitable causes through golf. I also understand 
golf outings can be an effective fundraiser for political 
campaigns. The health benefits of golf are well documented, so 
we tend to vehemently disagree with Mark Twain's assessment of 
golf as ``a good walk spoiled''.
    Now, about the clock, locking the clock does not change how 
much daylight we have, just where it shows up on the clock. For 
golf and many outdoor activities, a shift can have significant 
economic and wellness implications. Golf thrives on what we 
call recreational daylight, the overlap of sunlight and 
people's availability to be outdoors.
    Americans overwhelmingly prefer evening recreation over 
early morning. This is not just about golf, it is about soccer, 
jogging, walking, biking, tennis, and so much more. Making 
Standard Time permanent would shift 1 hour per day from 
recreational to non-recreational daylight. Simplistically, it 
trades 8 p.m. for 8 a.m. At golf courses, later hours generate 
about 40 percent more revenue per hour than early mornings.
    Trading backward would cost the average public golf course 
at least 7 to 8 percent of their annual revenue by removing the 
best inventory we have on our shelves, which is approximately 
37 million rounds of golf, and would cost the industry at least 
$1.6 billion or nearly $200,000 per course. This analysis only 
includes green fee revenue, and does not include spending on 
golf car rentals, merchandise, food and beverage, golf lessons, 
and other areas of the business.
    Thus, only 7 percent of our members support making Standard 
Time permanent. Those who favor Standard Time year-round say 
their morning play is more valuable to them than their 
afternoon play. These may be resorts that want players off the 
course and in the restaurants at a reasonable hour.
    Now, making Daylight Saving Time permanent would provide 
additional recreational daylight from November to March and 
would add an estimated 23 million rounds to the current golf 
inventory. This would give the industry a tailwind of about $1 
billion, or roughly $250,000 per affected facility. Sixty-four 
percent of our members support making Daylight Saving Time 
permanent. The status quo, changing of our clocks twice per 
year, avoids both the significant downside while forfeiting the 
moderate upside.
    Twenty-seven percent of golf course owners and operators 
support keeping the status quo of changing the clocks. Many 
golf courses slow down in the winter and enjoy having some 
relief later in the day for their employees with the sun 
setting earlier. Or they may have a healthy clientele of older 
players who would prefer no disruption to their 7 a.m. tee time 
or their eleven o'clock bridge game. Keep in mind all these 
figures do not include thousands of private clubs, which would 
augment the impacts in both directions by an enormous sum.
    In conclusion, the Senate is facing a classic Gordian knot. 
There will be winners and losers no matter which way the knot 
is cut. But our members clearly prefer Daylight Saving Time and 
strongly oppose permanent Standard Time.
    We recognize the sleep-related arguments for Standard Time, 
but the benefits of extended daylight for physical and mental 
health, outdoor recreation, and public safety are significant. 
Obesity, depression, and crime all have ties to reduced 
daylight and sedentary lifestyles.
    So in short, we urge the Senate to avoid the consequences 
of permanent Standard Time. We encourage solutions that 
preserve evening daylight for golf, for health, for recreation, 
and local economies.
    Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Karen follows:]

       Prepared Statement of Jay Karen, Chief Executive Officer, 
                National Golf Course Owners Association
    Thank you, Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell and members of 
the Committee for allowing me to enter testimony on behalf of the 
members of the National Golf Course Owners Association. I sincerely 
appreciate the time you are setting aside for a discussion about a 
complex and consequential matter.
    My name is Jay Karen, Chief Executive Officer of the National Golf 
Course Owners Association. NGCOA, headquartered in Charleston, South 
Carolina, represents over 4,000 small businesses throughout America and 
serves as a vital resource for owners, operators, and general managers 
of various types of golf facilities, including privately-owned public 
courses, private clubs, municipal courses and resorts. The NGCOA 
provides business-critical information, education, networking 
opportunities, and advocacy to help our members and the greater 
industry operate their golf facilities efficiently and sustainably.
Golf as Part of the U.S. Culture, Land and Economy
    While golf is often seen as a game enjoyed by a small, yet 
passionate group of people, golf has long been entrenched in the fabric 
of American society as one of the Nation's leading participation 
sports. In addition to our rich history, both at the professional and 
recreational levels, golf is a dynamic, growing and evolving industry 
that's impacting the broader United States economy in a wide variety of 
ways.
    A few tidbits about the golf industry:

   28.1 million Americans played golf in 2024 on over 15,000 
        golf courses in the United States, laid out across 2 million 
        acres of cared-for land (about the size of Delaware and Rhode 
        Island combined), of which nearly 80 percent of golf courses 
        are public access. Golf's goodness was showcased during the 
        most difficult COVID years, as millions of people flocked to 
        the Nation's courses for the very first time for much-needed 
        outdoor recreation.

   Golf is an activity and business with a large economic 
        footprint that spurs millions to travel, make purchases, and 
        build and buy houses connected to golf. The business of golf 
        drove $101.7 billion in economic activity throughout the U.S. 
        in 2022, an increase of 20 percent over 2016. Golf tourism 
        overall is the second-biggest economic driver in the industry, 
        with golfers generating over $31 billion in travel-related golf 
        expenditures within the U.S. Today, golf has an extended 
        economic impact of over $226 billion, providing 1.65 million 
        Americans with quality employment opportunities.

   Golf leads all other sporting industries in charitable 
        giving, raising close to $5 billion through nearly 150,000 
        charitable golf events at more than 80 percent of all golf 
        courses. Golf also tends to be an effective fundraiser for 
        political campaigns!

   Golf provides valuable green space, as trees and turfgrass 
        at courses improve air quality by producing oxygen and trapping 
        pollutants, thus preventing them from reaching groundwater 
        supplies. U.S. golf courses, which also serve as sanctuaries 
        for a wide variety of plants and animals, continue to exhibit 
        dramatic input reductions, savings, and technological 
        advancements when it comes to environmental sustainability. 
        Perhaps most notable is the industry's management of its most 
        precious resource--water--with usage at golf courses dropping 
        29 percent since 2005.

   Golf delivers value in ways beyond jobs, revenue, taxes, and 
        multiplier effects. Golf is a lifestyle, a community asset, and 
        a positive contributor to physical, mental and social wellness. 
        Playing golf offers significant health benefits by promoting 
        physical activity, mental wellness, and social connection. A 
        typical 18-hole round involves walking 4-6 miles and burning up 
        to 2,000 calories. Studies show golfers have a 40 percent lower 
        mortality rate than non-golfers of the same age. The sport also 
        supports mental health, particularly for adults aged 35-49, who 
        report using golf as a way to reduce stress and recharge. In 
        2022, 97 percent of U.S. golf facilities hosted programs to 
        expand recreational access, underscoring golf's role as a 
        community wellness asset. Golf combines exercise, nature, and 
        friendship into a sustainable lifelong activity.
Day in the Life of a Golf Course Operator--Sun-Up to Sun-Down
    A golf course operator's day starts before dawn, coordinating with 
maintenance crews and reviewing the tee sheet and weather. As players 
arrive, they oversee operations, monitor pace of play, and handle early 
food and beverage service. Midday brings office tasks, course checks, 
and managing staff or guests. Afternoons shift toward twilight play, 
lunch traffic, and planning upcoming events or communications. Evenings 
focus on closing duties, cart returns, and prepping for the next day. 
It's a fast-paced blend of hospitality, logistics, and fieldwork, 
balancing customer experience, team management, and revenue across 
changing daylight, weather, and play patterns. No two days are ever the 
same.
    Sunrise and sunset directly shape a golf course operator's daily 
play window, staffing needs, and revenue potential. Tee times are 
scheduled based on available daylight, with early starts shortly after 
sunrise and final rounds finishing at sunset. Some courses, like Pebble 
Beach Golf Links, even have lights in the trees on the finishing green 
to accommodate golfers trying to squeeze in every last bit of play. 
Seasonal shifts in daylight affect how many rounds can be played, 
staffing schedules, and the timing of events or maintenance. Operators 
use this information to plan twilight pricing, ensure safety, and 
optimize food, beverage, and cart operations. In short, daylight hours 
are the framework for nearly every operational and financial decision 
on the course, impacting both the guest experience and the bottom line.
    Seasonal changes in sunrise, sunset, and weather, especially frost, 
significantly impact how golf operators plan each day. In winter, even 
if sunrise is technically around 7:30 AM, play may be delayed until 
9:00 or later due to frost, which can damage turf if disturbed. This 
reduces the number of playable hours and limits tee time availability. 
As a result, operators often start later, compress the tee sheet, and 
reduce staffing. In contrast, summer offers long days with early 
sunrises and late sunsets, allowing more tee times, twilight play, and 
higher revenue potential. Maintenance also adjusts seasonally--crews 
may need to shift schedules to prepare the course before first light in 
summer, while winter prep happens in a tighter window. Event planning, 
F&B hours, and dynamic pricing models must all be adapted to the 
season's light and weather. In short, seasonal daylight and frost risk 
are critical variables in maximizing playability, revenue, and turf 
health.
Recreational Daylight--The Industry's Lifeblood
    We know that ``locking the clock'' doesn't increase or decrease the 
number of daylight hours for any service provider in any geographies 
around the US; it simply changes where that daylight occurs on our 
clocks. Why does this matter to golf? Golf relies on what we call 
``Recreational Daylight,'' which are the hours of the day that line up 
with the sun's light and people's general availability to be outside to 
enjoy recreational activity. Historically people are inclined to pursue 
recreation and outdoor activities at a higher rate for ``after-dinner'' 
than ``before-breakfast'' daylight. Proposed changes to ``locking the 
clock'' would have the following effect for golf:

   Making Standard Time permanent would shift one hour per day 
        for every course in the country (in their respective season 
        lengths) from recreational to non-recreational daylight (i.e., 
        trades 8PM for 8AM).

   Making Daylight Saving Time permanent would provide 
        additional recreational daylight hours for dates in November to 
        March. Two distinctions: Northern facilities wouldn't benefit 
        as much, because these are non-season months due to temps/snow, 
        etc, and these months are also peak season for the snowbird 
        locations such as FL and AZ
        
        
    Latitude matters in golf relative to how daylight length varies 
during the year. Perhaps the best way to explain this is to look at the 
daylight length at June summer solstice in northern latitudes vs. a 
south U.S. benchmark:

   Miami, FL (benchmark)--13 hrs 45 mins of daylight

   Minneapolis, MN--15 hrs 37 mins of daylight (almost 2 hours 
        more!)

   Seattle, WA--15 hrs 59 mins (+ 2 hrs)

   Sioux Falls, SD--15 hrs 36 mins (+ 2 hrs)

   East Lansing, MI--15 hrs 21 mins (+1.5 hrs)

   Buffalo, NY--15 hrs 21 mins (+1.5 hrs)

   Boston, MA--15 hrs 17 mins (+1.5 hrs)

    In a formula that adjusts for weather, this means that a course in 
Minneapolis has room for 50+ more golfers per day than Miami on the 
same date. The Minneapolis course will continue to have more daily 
capacity than a course in Miami through the autumnal equinox in 
September. This relationship plays out across the northern U.S.

   Northern courses benefit from the annual daylight 
        distribution naturally.

   This is also a factor fueling why golf participation is 
        significantly higher in northern vs. southern states.

    Golf courses in general generate higher revenue in later-day vs. 
early-morning hours. Based on analyzing a range of courses and their 
Point of Sale (PoS) data for revenue by hour, the distribution below 
illustrates revenue as an average representation:


    Afternoon and evening daylight revenue is approximately 40 percent 
higher than before-lunch hours for the average golf facility. Hence, 
trading-backwards (eliminating DST) is going to cost the average 
operator about 7-8 percent of their annual revenue.
    Here is a look at the impact--either direction--on approximately 
8,000 public, regulation-length golf courses in the United States. This 
economic picture only includes the gain or loss in green fee revenue, 
and does not include the impact on spending on golf cart rental, 
merchandise, food and beverage, golf lessons and other areas of the 
business. Keep in mind this does not include thousands of private 
clubs, which would augment the impacts in both directions.


   Making Standard Time Permanent would cost all states golf 
        revenue to the tune of $1.6B or 7.5 percent of their total 
        annual green fee income, or approximately $162,000 per course.

   Making Daylight Saving Time permanent gives the industry 
        about half that increment of a tailwind of $1B or 4.6 percent 
        of green fee income, or approximately $250,000 per facility.

   Leaving the clock changing as-is obviously avoids both the 
        significant downside while forfeiting the moderate upside.
Daylight Saving Time--Industry Sentiment
    83 percent of NGCOA course owners and operators surveyed feel a 
permanent change to Daylight Saving Time would benefit the overall 
success and viability of their businesses, though a lesser 64 percent 
support making Daylight Saving Time permanent. Our assumption is that 
the gap represents those who don't believe the change and related 
disruptions to business and lives are worth it.


    To illustrate additional complexities of this, golf course 
superintendents employed at golf courses report only 40 percent of 
their surveyed members feel a move to permanent DST would benefit the 
success and viability of their work, with 33 percent being unsure and 
27 percent saying it would not be helpful.
    Below are direct comments on Daylight Saving Time from industry 
practitioners:

        As an owner-operator of the largest private country club in 
        Indiana, staying on Daylight Saving Time is the best for all 
        outdoor activities. Whether it's pickleball, golf, outdoor 
        dining, boating, walking, etc., people use more time in the 
        evening than in the morning. When I moved to Indiana 12 years 
        ago, one of my favorite intangibles was the amount of daylight 
        in the evenings. You can play golf in Indiana until 9:30. 
        That's amazing and it means that members are playing 18 holes 
        well past the traditional end of the workday.

        Even though we are in the far western portion of the Eastern 
        time zone, I still wish I had even more daylight in the 
        evenings and I dread when we go back to Standard Time in 
        November. It's the end of February, and we can be outside until 
        6:30. I wish we were on Daylight Savings time today and I could 
        be outside until 7:30 on this 60-degree, February day.

        As a golf teacher, I am able to teach the public after they are 
        done with their workday, therefore extending my ability to 
        generate revenue. However, due to maintenance, I am unable to 
        teach in the mornings.

        We are in the Central Time Zone but within 10 miles of Eastern 
        Time. In the winters, it gets dark here at 4:00 pm. If you have 
        a long frost delay, it can really limit the number of tee times 
        that could finish 18 holes before dark.

        At our daily fee municipal golf course, we feel as if going to 
        permanent Daylight Saving would be more beneficial in the long 
        run to our revenue stream based on the amount of play after 
        people get off of work. The maintenance crew's working time 
        would be the same (they start working 1 hour before sunrise). 
        Standard time would take golfers away after work and we do not 
        see many people showing up way early to get their round in.

        Permanent Daylight Saving Time is a big positive for golf and 
        other recreation activities including youth and adult baseball, 
        soccer, football, tennis, pickleball, etc. More outdoor 
        recreation activities occur in the evening. More evening light 
        increases participation and revenue while also decreasing 
        lighting expenses at outdoor fields.

        Evening golf generates more after work activity including 
        serving dinner. We would align our morning shifts with new 
        sunrise times. Early morning players might be put off by 
        starting later, but they will adjust. These are generally the 
        lowest revenue players. I am all in on Permanent Daylight 
        Saving Time.

        Having an extra hour of daylight for the evening hours provides 
        us with more revenue opportunities than opening the tee sheet 
        earlier. We have many more golfers who prefer to play 9-holes 
        after work than those who would come at say 5:00-5:30 am.
Standard Time--Industry Sentiment
    9 percent of NGCOA members feel a permanent change to Standard Time 
would benefit the overall success and viability of their businesses, 
and 7 percent support making Standard Time permanent. While some course 
owners feel Standard Time would support the morning-heavy businesses 
they run, most respondents feel a move to permanent Standard Time would 
negatively impact their ability to generate revenue, to maintain 
optimal conditions on the course, to have reasonable working hours for 
their employees and their ability to provide safety and security at 
their businesses.
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    To illustrate additional complexities of this, golf course 
superintendents report only 19 percent of their surveyed members feel a 
move to permanent Standard Time would benefit the success and viability 
of their businesses, with 35 percent being unsure and 46 percent saying 
it would not be helpful.
    Comments on Standard Time from industry practitioners:

        We are in a resort vacation area and our busiest times are 
        mornings. Most visitors have evening dinner or other plans. 
        Morning help is also easier to find than evening help.

        I am unsure how changing to DST would affect our business, as 
        we don't play golf in the winter. However, moving to ST would 
        significantly negatively impact our business. We have a 
        significant amount of late afternoon play. No-one will want to 
        play at 4 am, but a number of people play at 6 pm and wouldn't 
        finish before dark if ST was implemented.

        We are providing golf during DST under the current system. So 
        in MN it would offer no change to the golf season. However, 
        Standard Time would be terrible for MN golfers. It already is 
        light so early in the summer here (with DST) that taking away 
        that extra hour of evening golf would be no good. We don't need 
        it to be light at 4 AM under the Standard time system.

        Although ST would allow some courses to have grounds 
        maintenance start earlier, many courses may not be able to take 
        advantage of the earlier start due to local noise ordinances.

        When working a 12-month calendar, having earlier leave times at 
        the end of the day is needed. Going home later will make hiring 
        more difficult if it is for extended time. The winter months 
        are a needed break and allow employees to spend more time with 
        their families.

        Permanent Standard time would cause income loss that would be 
        devastating to our public course!

        A change to Permanent Standard Time would devastate the revenue 
        we are able to generate. I am currently able to sell early 
        morning tee times, then host a late-morning golf outing and an 
        evening after-work golf league. Losing an hour of evening light 
        would only be able to sell it twice.

        Standard Time would be a disaster for golf & outdoor 
        recreation. If we lock into Standard Time year-round, here's 
        what we're facing:

     4:30 AM sunrises that no one benefits from.

     An impossible hiring situation for maintenance crews 
            starting at 3:30 AM.

     Tee sheets with massive gaps in the morning and no 
            twilight rounds to make up for it.

     Leagues, tournaments, and evening events canceled or 
            severely limited.

     A massive economic hit--not just to golf, but to all 
            outdoor recreation and tourism.

        If we had permanent Standard time it would affect our ability 
        to get the maintenance out early in the morning due to the 
        timing of the local noise ordinances. We may actually lose some 
        of those morning times because we would have to start later in 
        the day. The one positive I would see in permanent Standard 
        time is being able to get golf shop and cart staff home a 
        little earlier. Here in Idaho it is light until almost 10 pm in 
        June/July and cart staff especially can be here until 11 pm.

        Going to a permanent DST would reduce my facility's revenue by 
        over $144,000 by eliminating my first hour of tee times, 7am to 
        8 am. Additionally, adjusting maintenance schedules to avoid 
        working in the dark is not desirable.

        The high fixed costs of maintaining a golf course (or any 
        business) would remain the same whether or not we are on 
        standard time or daylight savings time. A typical 18 hole golf 
        course in Michigan budgets approximate 50 percent of their 
        overall expenses to go to course maintenance. So with that lost 
        revenue, and the same fixed costs for a business where does 
        that leave a business to cut? The job impact in Michigan from 
        the golf industry is 60,000! How will that affect the economic 
        health of Michigan?
Status Quo--Industry Sentiment
    27 percent of NGCOA members support keeping the current status of 
changing the clocks twice per year. And as we identified previously, 
there is a 19 percent gap between those who say Daylight Saving will 
benefit their business and a desire to actually lock the clock on DST. 
It can be interpreted that between a quarter and one-third of our 
members would prefer that we keep changing the clocks twice per year. 
Many golf courses in areas that slow down in the winter and receive 
modest play enjoy having some relief later in the day for their 
employees with the sun setting earlier. Thus, many enjoy the changing 
of the clocks with the changing of the seasons for workplace culture 
benefits.
    Comments on Status Quo from industry practitioners:
        Since we are not open for golf in the winter months, switching 
        to DST permanently would not have much effect on our operation. 
        Switching to ST would not benefit us as we would not start 
        earlier in the morning, and would lose time in the evening for 
        golf revenue.
        DST in the winter would result in not opening until well after 
        10:00 on certain days due to frost. Thus likely causing a 
        significant loss of morning rounds (seniors) in the winter 
        without any gain in the evening due to sunset at 6:00 (not 
        enough time for golf after work). ST in the summer would 
        obviously significantly impact league and evening play without 
        an offsetting gain in the morning with sunrise being before 
        5:00 a.m. for much of the summer. Our best scenario is the 
        current system of switching between DST & ST.
        For the Florida golf industry, a change to permanent Daylight 
        Saving time would cost us lots of revenue as it would be darker 
        and longer in the winter mornings. This is the time of year 
        that Florida clubs make all or most of their money. Golfers do 
        not play in the evening in the winter, so we would see no 
        additional revenue during the winter months. The status quo 
        makes the best sense for the Florida golf industry.
        This issue is far bigger than golf. It's also for the safety of 
        children so they don't have to go to school in the dark in 
        winter. Anyone who puts business profitability over the safety 
        of American children is, in my opinion, on the wrong side of 
        history. Also, to all of the people who want to eliminate the 
        practice of changing clocks twice a year. . . . . why? What 
        legitimate reason do they have other than they don't like it?
        Making DST permanent would bring in more revenue in the short 
        term. However, costs would also increase, and employees' work/
        life balance would also be affected. Evening times are great 
        for those with families and family commitments. Adding more 
        sunlight hours during this time would affect that. I don't see 
        many clubs adding additional staff, even if their revenue 
        streams increase.
Conclusion
    The golf industry is acutely aware of how making potential changes 
to the clock by eliminating either Daylight Saving Time or Standard 
Time is a modern-day Gordian Knot for lawmakers. There will be winners 
and losers no matter which way the knot is cut. Data and sentiment from 
the golf industry, though, reveal a clear favorability toward permanent 
Daylight Saving Time. Overall, permanent DST is viewed as more 
beneficial to the golf industry particularly for small business 
revenue, accessibility to the game, and general recreational enjoyment 
and benefits. Our industry is uniquely tied to daylight, and the number 
of playable hours directly affects the number of rounds we can offer, 
the staff we employ, and the revenue we generate, especially in the 
late afternoon and early evening.
    The National Golf Course Owners Association does not take a formal 
position on whether Congress should make Daylight Saving Time 
permanent, because a healthy portion of our members prefer the status 
quo. However, while a very small percentage of our members favor 
Standard Time, we want to make it clear that we oppose any proposal to 
make Standard Time permanent and year-round for the entire nation. 
Permanent Standard Time would result in earlier sunsets for most of the 
year, particularly in spring, summer, and early fall, the peak seasons 
for most of our industry. This shift would eliminate critical late-day 
tee times and reduce twilight leagues, after-work play, food-and-
beverage revenue, cart fees and more. In some regions, 25-40 percent of 
daily rounds begin after 3:00 p.m. Permanent Standard Time would put 
much of that business at risk. Beyond revenue, this would hurt seasonal 
employment, fundraising events for charities, and accessibility for 
working golfers who rely on evening hours. These economic impacts would 
be most severe in states with long seasons and large golf economies, 
such as Florida, California, Arizona, and the Carolinas, as well as the 
Northern tier, seasonal and golf-dense places like Michigan, 
Pennsylvania, New York, New England and the Pacific Northwest.
    While we sympathize with some of the sleep-related arguments for 
permanent Standard Time, we believe the counterweight of outside 
activity in the latter parts of the day provides significant health 
benefits that cannot be ignored. Child and adult obesity can be stemmed 
through sun-lit play and exercise outdoors. Hikers, joggers and bikers 
are at greater safety risk--or may choose not to participate--with 
earlier sunsets. The biological benefits of sunlight and related 
Vitamin D are well documented, including improved immune functions, 
bone health and positive mental health. In short, a reduction in active 
hours would likely lead to further health issues caused by a more 
sedentary lifestyle. Ample research supports serious crime reduction 
being correlated with increased daylight. We would rather see the 
Senate favor the status quo over permanent Standard Time.
    We ask the Senate to consider the practical and economic 
consequences of losing evening daylight. We encourage policymakers to 
explore solutions that preserve extended daylight, which supports not 
only golf but also greater outdoor recreation, tourism, hospitality, 
good health and local economies.
    We extend our gratitude to the following people and organizations 
for contributing information and insight to our written testimony:

   Ronnie Miles, Senior Director of Advocacy, National Golf 
        Course Owners Association

   Thomas Smith, Chief Operating Officer, National Golf Course 
        Owners Association

   Jim Koppenhaver, Principal, Pellucid Corporation

   Stuart Lindsay, President, Edgehill Golf Advisors

   Greg Nathan, President and CEO, National Golf Foundation

   David Lorentz, Chief Research Officer, National Golf 
        Foundation

   Greg McLaughlin, CEO, World Golf Foundation

   Chava McKeel, Director of Government Affairs, Golf Course 
        Superintendents Association of America

    The Chairman. Thank you. Dr. Johnson.

   STATEMENT OF DR. KARIN JOHNSON, PRACTICING PHYSICIAN AND 
     PROFESSOR OF NEUROLOGY, UMASS CHAN SCHOOL OF MEDICINE 
 BAYSTATE--ON BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF SLEEP MEDICINE

    Dr. Johnson. Thank you, Chairman Cruz, Senator Blunt 
Rochester, distinguished Members of the Senate. Thank you for 
having me.
    My name is Dr. Karin Johnson. As stated, I am a neurologist 
and practicing sleep medicine specialist in Massachusetts, and 
I am here representing the American Academy of Sleep Medicine.
    I want to extend my gratitude to Chairman Cruz for having 
this timely committee hearing. In December, President Trump 
called to end Daylight Saving Time, and his Make America 
Healthy Commission's mandate to reduce chronic diseases, 
especially in children, aligns with permanent Standard Time. 
Unfortunately, permanent Daylight Saving Time and the Sunshine 
Protection Act do the opposite.
    So I have three main takeaways. First, the spring clock 
change to Daylight Saving Time is bad, but permanent Daylight 
Saving Time is worse.
    Second, year-round Standard Time is the natural, healthy 
choice promoting physical health, mental health, performance, 
and safety.
    Third, history supports that permanent Standard Time is the 
only viable solution to end seasonal clock change.
    So let me elaborate. The majority of Americans do 
consistently want to lock the clock but have been more 
inconsistent about how to ditch the switch. But in March, there 
was a new Gallup Poll that just showed a significant shift in 
public opinion, with twice as many Americans now supporting 
permanent Standard Time over permanent Daylight Saving Time. 
Sixty percent of Americans and 80 percent of teens do not get 
the recommended amount of sleep, so there is a lot of room to 
improve sleep.
    Think about how you or your children feel after a bad night 
of sleep. Maybe you forgot an important meeting, drifted out of 
your lane, eaten that extra bowl of ice cream. I know I have 
done those things. You may have struggled to get your teenager 
out of bed, or been a little short with your husband.
    Now instead, think about how much better you feel and 
function after a good night's sleep. Permanent Standard Time 
would give more Americans the opportunity to improve their 
sleep without even trying. The sun is one of the most powerful 
drivers of health and well-being, but the timing of sunlight is 
what is critically important. Without enough morning light or 
with too much evening light, our circadian rhythms delay. This 
disrupts our sleep patterns and our body and brain functions.
    Permanent Daylight Saving Time would cause sunrises after 8 
a.m. for two to four months every winter, depriving us of this 
critical morning light. This is why permanent Daylight Saving 
Time would be exponentially worse than seasonal Daylight Saving 
Time.
    The adverse effects are greatest in our children, our 
teenagers, and other night owls whose bodies' clocks already 
run late. As discussed, there are many harmful benefits that 
occur in the days after this change, especially in the spring, 
to Daylight Saving Time, including more strokes and heart 
attacks. As highlighted in the prior testimony, brain function 
is really affected by sleep. And so, we heard about judges 
making harsher statements.
    However, these harms do not mean that permanent Daylight 
Saving Time would be better. Instead, the later sunrises and 
sunsets of Daylight Saving Time lead to higher risks of chronic 
diseases including, but not limited to, cancer, diabetes, heart 
disease, obesity, and these outweigh the short-term risks of 
what happens with the time change.
    There is also data that says that permanent Standard Time 
also results in better mental health outcomes, including 
reducing rates of depression and suicide, this is not 
surprising, as morning light and healthy sleep are known 
treatments for depression. On the other hand, poor sleep 
increases the risk of drug use, alcohol use, and other risk-
taking behaviors.
    There are some misconceptions I want to address. As 
discussed, permanent Daylight Saving Time does not make days 
longer, nor is it the reason why people feel better in the 
summer. Instead, permanent Daylight Saving Time is a hidden 
mandate to wake Americans up an hour earlier rather--to their 
alarm clocks rather than the sun.
    If we called it the ``Go to Work an Hour Earlier Act'' 
rather than the ``Sunshine Protection Act'', no one would be 
voting for it. Permanent Daylight Savings Time does not 
increase overall exercise levels in the U.S., and even if some 
people exercise more, obesity, and heart disease, these chronic 
diseases are still more prevalent.
    There is no--while darkness comes with health and safety 
risks, Daylight Saving Time is not the solution. There is no 
data to support that permanent Daylight Saving Time would 
reduce overall crime or motor vehicle crashes. Instead, later 
sunrises and sunsets are associated with 20 percent more fatal 
crashes.
    The negative impact of Daylight Saving Time on sleep and 
our brain health harms the economy, workers, especially those 
with early start times before 8:30, think of your farmers, your 
transportation workers, your factory workers are less likely to 
be productive and efficient. Workplace injuries rise after the 
transition to Daylight Saving Time, and health care spending 
increases.
    On the other hand, permanent Standard Time improves 
academic success in our children with higher test scores. Your 
constituents' utility bills will be lower with permanent 
Standard Time by reducing heating and cooling costs.
    And finally, the U.S. tried and quickly abandoned permanent 
Daylight Saving Time twice before, most recently in 1974. It 
just does not work. It will not last. For those that are 
serious about ending clock changes, permanent Standard Time is 
the only viable solution.
    Please refer to my written testimony for more details. And 
I am happy to look forward to the questions later.
    [The prepared statement of Dr. Johnson follows:]

  Prepared Statement of Karin Johnson, MD, FAAN, FAASM, Professor of 
    Neurology, University of Massachusetts Chan School of Medicine-
   Baystate, American Academy of Sleep Medicine, Advocacy Committee 
         Member Co-Chair, Coalition for Permanent Standard Time
 Permanent Standard Time: the Naturally Healthy and Lasting Way to End 
                              Clock Change
    Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and Distinguished Members 
of the Senate:

    My name is Dr. Karin Johnson. I am a practicing sleep medicine 
specialist and neurologist at UMASS Chan School of Medicine-Baystate. I 
received my undergraduate degree from Harvard University and medical 
degree at University of Chicago. I trained in neurology at Brown 
University and sleep medicine at Harvard University. My primary focus 
is clinical sleep medicine. My research centers on how sleep disorders 
and sleep health impact overall health and brain function. My support 
for permanent Standard Time stems from my commitment to promoting sleep 
health and brain health on a larger scale.
    Today, I appear in my personal capacity as a sleep medicine 
physician, a member of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine Advocacy 
Committee and the Co-Chair of the Coalition for permanent Standard 
Time. This coalition includes the American Academy of Sleep Medicine, 
Sleep Research Society, Society for Research on Biological Rhythms, 
National Sleep Foundation and the non-profit Save Standard Time. Please 
note that the views expressed in my testimony do not necessarily 
reflect those of my employer.
    Thank you for inviting me to speak at this important hearing. I 
commend this committee for thoughtfully considering changes to Daylight 
Saving Time (DST), particularly in regard to its impact on the health 
and wellbeing of the American people. I echo President Trump's call to 
end Daylight Saving Time.\1\ Permanent Standard time aligns with his 
executive order establishing the Make America Healthy commission to 
protect the wellbeing of the Nation and especially of our children. The 
Sunshine Protection Act for permanent Daylight Saving Time would do the 
opposite.
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    In my professional opinion and that of other scientific and medical 
societies including but not limited to the American Academy of Sleep 
Medicine, American Academy of Neurology, and the National Safety 
Council, permanent Standard Time offers multiple positive benefits for 
physical and mental health, safety and performance.
    My testimony will focus on:

  1.  The harms of the spring clock change to Daylight Saving Time and 
        the greater risks of year-round Daylight Saving Time.

  2.  Permanent Standard Time is the natural, healthy choice offering 
        multiple long-term benefits to physical health, mental health, 
        safety and performance.

  3.  History supports year-round Standard Time as the only viable 
        solution to end clock change.

    The majority of Americans have consistently called for an end to 
seasonal clock changes. Last month, President Trump held off on action, 
stating that he perceived the public as evenly split on which clock 
should be made permanent. However, the same week, a national Gallop 
poll revealed a significant shift in public opinion with twice as many 
Americans now supporting permanent Standard Time (48 percent) over 
permanent Daylight Saving Time (24 percent).\2\
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Sleep Health: A Pillar of Overall Health and Well-being
    Consider how you or your children have felt after a poor night's 
sleep. Maybe you've missed an important meeting, snapped at your 
spouse, drifted out of your lane, skipped the gym, or eaten an extra 
bowl of ice cream. You may have struggled to get an overly tired 
toddler to behave or have drag your teenager out of bed for school. 
Contrast that with how much better you feel and function after a 
restful sleep. Permanent Standard Time would help more Americans 
experience that improvement by providing a more natural alignment 
between our social schedules and the sun's cycle every day of the year.
    There is a growing understanding among doctors, educators, athletes 
and mental health professionals that sleep is critical but often 
underutilized tool for improving overall health. Americans are facing a 
sleep deprivation epidemic, with 60 percent of adults\3\ and 80 percent 
of teens\4\ not getting the recommended amount of sleep. Even small 
improvements in sleep can significantly boost metabolism, mood, immune 
function and performance.
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    \3\ (NationalSleepFoundation, 2025)
    \4\ (NationalSleepFoundation, 2024)
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    High-profile athletes, including Tom Brady, Kirk Cousins, Lebron 
James, Gabby Thomas, Roger Federer and Justin Thomas have capitalized 
on this understanding to improve their performance through sleep 
optimization.\5\
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    \5\ (Gatto, 2019; Gorman, 2024; Ibach, 2019; Scipioni, 2021; 
Sekaran, 2023)
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Clock Time Matters
    Good sleep is not just the number of hours, but also the timing and 
quality. Human beings are diurnal (not nocturnal); our bodies crave 
morning light to wake and evening darkness to sleep. Permanent Standard 
Time improves sleep health by aligning our clocks more naturally with 
the sun. Standard Time naturally places the sun directly overhead at 
noon at the meridian (dotted line) of each time zone. Daylight Saving 
Time shifts the clock time so that the sun is overhead an hour later.
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    Every cell in our body has a biological clock that synchronizes 
with a master clock in the brain, aligning our circadian rhythms to a 
24-hour day.\6\ To keep our internal clocks synchronized, most people 
need morning light and evening darkness. However, Daylight Saving Time 
stresses the body and brain by continually exposing us to the opposite 
conditions. Throughout the entire Daylight Saving Time period, our 
social schedules are misaligned with our natural circadian rhythms. 
This makes it harder to sleep and wake, and it strains metabolic and 
neurological functions.
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Lockley, 2002)
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    The effects of circadian misalignment are familiar to many of us 
during flights across time zones. With conventional jetlag, new timing 
of sunrise at our destination resynchronizes our internal rhythms to 
the local environment within a few days. However, with Daylight Saving 
Time our circadian hormones levels (such as the natural morning release 
of wakefulness-promoting cortisol) remain more aligned to the sun.\7\ 
Chronobiologists refer to this condition as ``social jet lag''.
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    \7\ (Hadlow, Brown, Wardrop, & Henley, 2014)
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    When our alarms ring at 7 a.m. during Daylight Saving Time, our 
bodies still feel like it is 6 a.m. near the time zone meridian. On the 
western edge of the time zone, it feels closer to 5:30 a.m.
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    When Daylight Saving Time is extended into winter's unavoidably 
shorter days, it pushes sunrise in most states past 8 a.m. for three or 
more months, and past 9 a.m in some locations. The long deprivation of 
crucial morning sunlight is why year-round Daylight Saving Time is 
exponentially more harmful than seasonal Daylight Saving Time.
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    Adolescents, teens and young adults have the most circadian 
disruption from Daylight Saving Time because their body rhythms already 
run late.\8\ Any parent of a teenager knows you can't just tell a kid 
to go to bed when they aren't tired. This is because before sleep 
onset, teenagers have the strongest drive for alertness (in what sleep 
scientist call the ``forbidden zone'').\9\ With more evening light 
during Daylight Saving Time pushing rhythms even later, most teenagers 
are biologically unable to get enough sleep before their morning alarms 
ring. This results in an increased number of teenagers trying to catch 
up on sleep over weekends,\10\ which is associated with numerous 
adverse health and performance outcomes.\11\
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    \8\ (Crowley, Acebo, & Carskadon, 2007)
    \9\ (Lavie, 1986)
    \10\ (Borisenkov et al., 2017)
    \11\ (Castro et al., 2021; Foster et al., 2013; Haraszti, Ella, 
Gyongyosi, Roenneberg, & Kaldi, 2014; Levandovski et al., 2011; 
McGowan, Uzoni, Faltraco, Thome, & Coogan, 2020; Panev et al., 2017; 
Parsons et al., 2015; Phillips et al., 2017; Roenneberg, Allebrandt, 
Merrow, & Vetter, 2012)
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The Harms of the Spring Clock Change to Daylight Saving Time and the 
        Greater Risks of Year-round Daylight Saving Time
    The transition from Standard Time to Daylight Saving Time in the 
spring is particularly harmful (see table below), but year-round 
Daylight Saving Time is even worse. Our body rhythms never adjust to 
the later sunrises and sunsets of Daylight Saving Time. These are 
associated with many long-term risks, including higher rates of cancer, 
obesity, heart attacks, depression, suicide and fatal car crashes.\12\ 
Independent reviews of the literature have resulted in multiple 
position statements by medical and scientific groups in support of 
permanent Standard Time.\13\
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    \12\ (Borisenkov et al., 2017; Gentry, Evaniuck, Suriyamongkol, & 
Mali, 2022; Gu et al., 2017; D. J. Reis et al., 2023; T. VoPham et al., 
2018)
    \13\ (Crawford et al., 2024; Malow, 2022; Medicine, 2022; 
Roenneberg et al., 2019)
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Health, Safety and Performance Outcomes Worsened by the Spring Clock 
        Change\14\
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    \14\ (Kantermann, Juda, Merrow, & Roenneberg, 2007; Lahti et al., 
2006) (Kolla, Coombes, Morgenthaler, & Mansukhani, 2021; Medina, Ebben, 
Milrad, Atkinson, & Krieger, 2015) (Barnes & Wagner, 2009; Ellis, 
Luther, & Jenkins, 2018; Holland & Hinze, 2000; Sipila, Ruuskanen, 
Rautava, & Kyto, 2016) (Kountouris, 2020; Manfredini et al., 2019) 
(Chudow et al., 2020) (Cho, Barnes, & Guanara, 2017; Gao, Lage, & 
Scullin, 2024; Kamstra, Kramer, & Levi, 2010) (Heacock et al., 2022) 
(Coate & Markowitz, 2004; Ferguson, 1996; Neumann & von Blanckenburg, 
2025; Teke et al., 2021) (O'Connor & Kancheva, 2022; Yule, Krishna, 
Rahiri, & Hill, 2016)

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Sleep disruption                     Medical errors
Teen sleep deprivation               Missed appointments
Strokes                              Workplace injuries
Heart attacks                        Human caused wildfires
Atrial fibrillation                  Medical malpractice payments
Autopsies including sudden infant    Harsher judges sentencing
 death
In-vitro fertilization rate failure  Stock market volatility
Emergency room visits                Alcohol consumption
Motor vehicle accidents              Athletic performance
Suicide                              Athletic injuries
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Can We Quantify the Short-term Impact?

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795,000 strokes /year  15,000 strokes/week. A 3% increase in stroke the
 week after the time change  450 more strokes/each spring
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    A study by JP Morgan indicates that the spring shift to Daylight 
Saving Time is associated with increased financial costs, including a 
5.9 percent spike in healthcare spending in Los Angeles compared to 
Phoenix in the month after the change. (Arizona stays on Standard 
Time).
Small Sleep Improvements, Big Impacts
    We know from later school start time policies that small changes in 
sleep health can lead to meaningful benefits to health, mood, safety 
and performance.\15\ Permanent Standard Time would allow these benefits 
without requiring drastic changes. Whereas permanent DST would change 
the recommended school start time from 8:30 a.m. to 9:30 a.m.
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    \15\ (K. Wahlstrom et al., 2014) (Later; McKeever, Dodd, & 
O'Sullivan, 2022) (K. L. Wahlstrom, Berger, & Widome, 2017) (Danner & 
Phillips, 2008; Temkin, Princiotta, Ryberg, & Lewin, 2018)
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Daylight Saving Time Impacts Certain Populations More
   Teenagers and other night owls

   People with work or childcare start times before 8:30 a.m. 
        (the median work start in the United States is 7:55 a.m.)

   People who live on the western edge of time zones
Corrections of Common Misconceptions
   Daylight Saving Time does not make days longer

   Summer benefits health and mood due to its longer daylength 
        and warmer weather, not due to Daylight Saving Time.

   Studies fail to show permanent Daylight Saving Time 
        significantly increases exercise in the United States.\16\ Even 
        if some people exercise more, the risk of chronic health 
        disorders increases due to sleep and circadian disruption.
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    \16\ (Goodman, Page, Cooper, & International Children's 
Accelerometry Database, 2014; Zick, 2014)

   While darkness may come with health and safety risks, 
        Daylight Saving Time is not the solution, because sleep and 
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        circadian disruption cause even more health and safety risks.

   Permanent Standard Time results in fewer long-term mental 
        health disorders, reducing seasonal depression\17\ and 
        suicide.\18\ A 2025 study found that artificial delay of 
        sunrises and sunsets is associated with a roughly 6 percent 
        increase in the incidence of depression.\19\ This is not 
        surprising, as morning light and healthy sleep are known 
        treatments for mental health disorders.
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    \17\ (Borisenkov et al., 2017)
    \18\ (D. J. Reis et al., 2023)
    \19\ (Argys, Averett, & Yang, 2025)

   There are no data to support that permanent Daylight Saving 
        Time would reduce year-round crime or motor vehicle crashes, 
        there are only data to support short-term effects after the 
        clock change. Moreover, a recent study spanning eleven years of 
        data across the Nation showed that artificial delay of sunrises 
        and sunsets is associated with 21.8 percent more fatal 
        crashes.\20\ Furthermore, sleep disruption is associated with 
        drug and alcohol use, poorer judgment, more risk-taking 
        behaviors and greater aggression--all of which are risk factors 
        for criminality and for vehicular accidents.
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    \20\ (Gentry et al., 2022)

   Farmers historically have supported permanent Standard Time. 
        Many aspects of farm and ranch work remained aligned to the 
        sun, for example, the time dew clears from the fields and the 
        circadian rhythms of farm animals. Animals are also impacted by 
        clock changes, becoming less active after sunrise after the 
        transition to Daylight Saving Time.\21\ Rural areas were 
        particularly affected in 1974 when people were made to commute 
        to work in the dark and send their kids to school in the dark 
        during permanent Daylight Saving Time.
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    \21\ (Nagendran, Li, Samson, & Schroeder, 2025)

   Night owls often express a preference for Daylight Saving 
        Time, believing later sunrise and sunsets align better with 
        their natural rhythm. However, their circadian rhythms are more 
        sensitive to the delayed light exposure of Daylight Saving 
        Time.\22\ When night owls miss morning light or get exposed to 
        too much light in the evening, their internal body clocks have 
        a greater degree of misalignment with the external environment 
        than people with earlier sleep timing preferences, or 
        ``chronotypes''. This misalignment is called ``social jet 
        lag'', and it is associated with chronic health risks, 
        including higher rates of obesity, depression, and 
        cardiovascular problems.\23\ Night owls are also more likely to 
        experience greater sleep loss after the seasonal clock change 
        to Daylight Saving Time.\24\ One of the most effective medical 
        treatments for helping night owls to wake on time for work and 
        school is high-intensity morning light exposure.\25\ Morning 
        light helps reset their circadian rhythms, making it easier to 
        wake up earlier and feel more aligned with the typical work 
        day. Permanent Standard Time would not only help night owls 
        rise without the harshness of an alarm clock, but also support 
        healthier sleep cycles, making it easier for them to fall 
        asleep earlier. The mental and physical health benefits of 
        permanent Standard Time are greater for night owls.
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    \22\ (C. Reis et al., 2023)
    \23\ (Farkova, Smotek, Bendova, Mankova, & Koprivova, 2021) 
(Fischer & Lombardi, 2022) (Juda, Vetter, & Roenneberg, 2013) (McMahon 
et al., 2019) (Owens, Dearth-Wesley, Herman, & Whitaker, 2019) 
(Merikanto et al., 2013) (Urban, Magyarodi, & Rigo, 2011) (Wong, 
Hasler, Kamarck, Muldoon, & Manuck, 2015)
    \24\ (Putilov, Poluektov, & Dorokhov, 2020)
    \25\ (Narala, Ahsan, Ednick, & Kier, 2024)

   The negative impact of Daylight Saving Time on sleep harms 
        the economy. Workers, especially those with early start times 
        before 8:30 a.m., are less likely to be productive and 
        efficient during periods of circadian misalignment.\26\ 
        Permanent Standard Time improves academic success with higher 
        high school test scores than even seasonal Daylight Saving 
        Time.\27\ Additionally, health care bills and work-place 
        injuries rise after the transition to Daylight Saving Time and 
        utility bills, heating and cooling costs are lower during 
        Standard Time.\28\
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    \26\ (Giuntella & Mazzonna, 2019)
    \27\ (Gaski & Sagarin, 2011)
    \28\ (Barnes & Wagner, 2009; Depalo, 2023; Farrell, Narasiman, & 
Ward Jr., 2016; Kotchen & Grant, 2011)
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Historical Context and the Case for Permanent Standard Time
    Prior to 1966, most states enjoyed permanent Standard Time for 
eight decades outside of wartime. It was only after the Uniform Time 
Act was enacted, with its prescribed adherence to seasonal Daylight 
Saving Time, that most states began to observe biannual clock changes. 
Permanent Daylight Saving Time has been tried before, notably during 
World War II and the 1974 Oil Crisis, but it was quickly abandoned due 
to its unpopularity and negative effects. Permitting states to adopt 
permanent Daylight Saving Time could create significant economic and 
logistical issues, especially for industries like transportation and 
broadcasting. Prevention of such problems was why the Uniform Time Act 
of 1966 was enacted.\29\ For example, it has been estimated that 
companies spend $350 million dollars in computer fixes to deal with 
Daylight Saving Time transitions.\30\ Thus, a national or at least 
regional approach, with adequate preparation time and careful choice of 
the most sustainable permanent clock, is preferred.
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    \29\ (United States. Congress. House. Committee on Interstate and 
Foreign Commerce., 1973)
    \30\ (Lohr, 2007)
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    A recent review disproves the claimed energy savings of Daylight 
Saving Time,\31\ including studies showing utility bills increase 
during Daylight Saving Time, due to higher heating and cooling 
costs.\32\
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    \31\ (Neumann & von Blanckenburg, 2025)
    \32\ (Farrell et al., 2016; Kotchen & Grant, 2011)
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    Only about 70 countries currently have seasonal Daylight Saving 
Time policies, with most countries following year-round Standard Time. 
Mexico most recently adopted year-round Standard Time in 2022. 
Permanent Standard Time has been shown to be a lasting option, whereas 
permanent Daylight Saving Time in the United States and elsewhere has 
been unsustainable.
Conclusion
    In summary, while seasonal Daylight Saving Time allows for more 
evening light, it forces unpopular, costly and harmful biannual clock 
changes.
    Permanent Standard Time offers a balanced approach that aligns with 
our natural circadian rhythms, improves health, safety, and 
productivity, and eliminates the harmful and unpopular effects of 
seasonal clock changes. While Daylight Saving Time may seem beneficial 
on the surface, it brings substantial costs to our well-being and 
inefficiencies to our economy. I urge this committee to consider the 
long-term benefits of adopting Permanent Standard Time.
Additional Information About Seasonal Transition Effects
    Studies of motor vehicle crashes after clock changes have shown 
varying results,\33\ but one study that analyzed data over ten years 
found the spring transition to Daylight Saving Time likely increases 
fatal motor vehicle crashes, with a 6 percent rise in fatalities 
reported. This risk is most significant in the western edges of time 
zones, where circadian disruption is greatest.\34\
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    \33\ (Coate & Markowitz, 2004; Ferguson, 1996; Goodwin, Gonzalez, & 
Fontenla, 2024; Neumann & von Blanckenburg, 2025; Teke et al., 2021)
    \34\ (Fritz, VoPham, Wright, & Vetter, 2020)
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    Hansen et al's often-cited study showed an 11 percent increase in 
depression episodes after the fall transition from Daylight Saving Time 
to Standard Time, but the rates then decreased over the next two months 
during Standard Time. This suggests a short-term worsening after the 
change, and a long-term protective effect of Standard Time, despite 
shortening day lengths.\35\ However, other types of studies are needed 
to inform the long-term effects. For example, one study that compared 
permanent Daylight Saving Time to permanent Standard Time found highest 
rates of seasonal depression during permanent Daylight Saving Time.\36\ 
Another study found a 6 percent higher incidence of depression with 
later sunrises and sunsets.\37\
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    \35\ (Hansen, Sonderskov, Hageman, Dinesen, & Ostergaard, 2017)
    \36\ (Borisenkov et al., 2017)
    \37\ (Argys et al., 2025)
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    Doleac et al's often-cited study reported a 27 percent drop in 
robberies occurring in the two hours around and after sunset after the 
spring Daylight Saving Time to Standard Time transition.\38\ Their data 
supports an acute effect of light on decreasing robbery rates, but it 
is unlikely crime rates would be lower overall with permanent Daylight 
Saving Time when sleep factors are taken in account. In fact, their 
data shows more crimes were committed during DST period, per their 
table below.
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Data Informing the Long-term Impact of Clock Time Choice
Sleep Effect of 1-hour Earlier Sunset and Sunrise on Working Adults in 
        US\39\
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              Social Factor                  Average Daily Sleep Gain
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Employed Adults                           19 minutes
Work-start before 7 a.m.                  36 minutes
Parents of children with school start     27 minutes
 time before 8 a.m.
Work-start after 8:30 a.m. without        No change
 children
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    Social Jet Lag (sleeping in >2 hours later on weekends) is less 
common in adolescents with permanent Standard Time\40\
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                                Exercise
   No change in average exercise in U.S. adolescents with later 
        sunsets\41\
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    \41\ (Goodman et al., 2014)

   Comparing Arizona to nearby states, Daylight Saving Time 
        doesn't increase adult physical activity, but it may change the 
        time of day that exercise occurs\42\
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                                 Health
   Childhood obesity rates decrease with less social jet 
        lag\43\
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    \43\ (Liang et al., 2022)

   Fewer cases of being overweight or obese with 1-hour earlier 
        sunrise/sunset\44\
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    \44\ (Giuntella & Mazzonna, 2019)

   More sun-aligned clock time is associated with lower rates 
        of cancer, heart attacks, coronary artery disease and 
        diabetes\45\
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    \45\ (Giuntella & Mazzonna, 2019; Gu et al., 2017; Trang VoPham et 
al., 2018)

   Health care costs are lower with both stopping clock 
        transitions and more sun-aligned clock time\46\
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                             Mental Health
   While people can feel mood brighten when going out in the 
        sun, the timing of light and quality of sleep are more 
        important for long-term mental health

   Morning light-box treatment improves mood;\47\ Standard Time 
        naturally provides morning light
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    \47\ (Terman, 2007)

   6 percent higher incidence of depression with later sunrise 
        and sunset\48\
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    \48\ (Argys et al., 2025)

   1-2/100,000 more suicides with later sunrise and sunset;\49\ 
        more aligned clocks could prevent about 5,000 suicides per year
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    \49\ (D. J. Reis et al., 2023)

   Sleep and circadian disruption is associated with increased 
        substance abuse\50\
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    \50\ (Hasler et al., 2017; Hasler et al., 2022)

   Winter depression rates are highest during permanent 
        Daylight Saving Time and lowest during permanent Standard 
        Time\51\
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Can We Quantify the Difference Between Permanent DST and Permanent ST?

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Given 42.9 million adolescents in the United States and prevalence rate
 of seasonal depression in adolescents of 1.7-5.5%, a 2.2% difference is
 approximately 16,000-52,000 fewer children with seasonal depression
 during permanent Standard Time than during permanent Daylight Saving
 Time.
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                    Workplace Performance and Safety
   Many studies demonstrate that sleep and circadian disruption 
        result in worsened brain function, including worsened 
        concentration, attention, reaction time, decision making and 
        learning/memory, affecting workplace relationships, performance 
        and safety\52\
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    \52\ (Barnes, 2012; Barnes, Ghumman, & Scott, 2013; Barnes, 
Guarana, Nauman, & Kong, 2016; Barnes, Gunia, & Wagner, 2015; Barnes, 
Lucianetti, Bhave, & Christian, 2015; Diaz-Morales & Escribano, 2015; 
Gish, Wagner, Gregoire, & Barnes, 2019; Guarana & Barnes, 2017; McGowan 
et al., 2020; McGowan, Voinescu, & Coogan, 2016; Panev et al., 2017; 
Scullin, Hebl, Corrington, & Nguyen, 2020; Uehli et al., 2014; Wagner, 
Barnes, Lim, & Ferris, 2012)

   Later sunrises and sunsets are associated with over $600 
        million per year in lost productivity due to 4 million lost 
        workdays\53\
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    \53\ (Giuntella & Mazzonna, 2019; Taillard, Sagaspe, Philip, & 
Bioulac, 2021)

   Professions with earlier work start times or shift work 
        schedules, including transportation construction, utility, 
        manufacturing, education and health services, are impacted most
                               Education
   Students living on permanent Standard Time had higher test 
        scores than those on seasonal Daylight Saving Time\54\
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   Academic performance improves when social jet lag is 
        lower\55\
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                         Motor Vehicle Crashes
   Despite the protective effect of more light during the 
        busier evening commute, driving is less safe during Daylight 
        Saving Time, due to sleep and circadian disruption effects

   21.8 percent more fatal motor vehicle crashes occur with 
        later sunsets;\56\ more aligned clocks could prevent 1,300 more 
        deaths per year
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    \56\ (Gentry et al., 2022)

   Driving simulation testing improves throughout Standard Time 
        and worsens throughout Daylight Saving Time\57\
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    \57\ (Orsini, Zarantonello, Costa, Rossi, & Montagnese, 2022)

   Permanent Daylight Saving Time has the most total commute 
        time in the dark
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             Sunrise Times on Permanent Daylight Saving Time
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                     First Day with     Last Day with
       City         Sunrise After 8    Sunrise After 8   Latest Sunrise
                           AM                AM
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Anchorage, AK      Sept 28            Mar 20            11:16 AM
Atlanta, GA        Nov 4              Mar 7             8:44 AM
Boston, MA         Dec 6              Jan 31            8:14 AM
Charleston, WV     Nov 7              Feb 28            8:45 AM
Chattanooga, TN    Oct 29             Mar 10            8:51 AM
Cheyenne, WY       Nov 25             Feb 11            8:26 AM
Chicago, IL        Dec 1              Feb 4             8:19 AM
Cleveland, OH      Nov 1              Mar 2             8:54 AM
Denver, CO         Nov 28             Feb 9             8:22 AM
Detroit, MI        Oct 27             Mar 6             9:02 AM
Helena, MT         Oct 24             Mar 5             9:13 AM
Honolulu, HI       every day of the                     8:12 AM
                    year
Indianapolis, IN   Oct 19             Mar 13            9:07 AM
Jackson, MS        Dec 23             Jan 23            8:03 AM
Kansas City, KS    Nov 12             Feb 23            8:39 AM
Madison, WI        Nov 22             Feb 12            8:30 AM
Minneapolis, MN    Nov 6              Feb 24            8:52 AM
Pierre, SD         Oct 17             Mar 12            9:18 AM
Raleigh, NC        Nov 23             Feb 17            8:26 AM
Reno, NV           Nov 29             Feb 8             8:21 AM
Salt Lake City,    Nov 2              Mar 2             8:53 AM
 UT
San Antonio, TX    Nov 16             Mar 2             8:30 AM
San Francisco, CA  Nov 24             Feb 15            8:26 AM
Santa Fe, NM       Dec 5              Feb 6             8:15 AM
Seattle, WA        Nov 5              Feb 24            8:58 AM
St. Louis, MO      Nov 30             Feb 8             8:20 AM
Tallahassee, FL    Nov 11             Mar 5             8:36 AM
Trenton, NJ        Nov 27             Feb 9             8:22 AM
Wilmington, DE     Nov 26             Feb 11            8:24 AM
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    The Chairman. Thank you very much.
    Dr. Harkey.

           STATEMENT OF DR. DAVID HARKEY, PRESIDENT, 
             INSURANCE INSTITUTE FOR HIGHWAY SAFETY

    Dr. Harkey. Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Blunt Rochester, 
and members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to 
share the IIHS research on the road safety implications of 
Daylight Saving Time.
    When discussing any topic on road safety in the United 
States it is important to set the stage. Simply put, we are in 
a road safety emergency. Crash deaths have risen nearly 30 
percent since 2014, from below 33,000 to more than 42,000 in 
2022. Pedestrian crashes in particular have reached crisis 
levels, climbing more than 80 percent from their low point in 
2009.
    Changing the clocks twice a year is relevant to road safety 
first and foremost because it affects the amount of ambient 
light during peak times for travel. We know that darkness is 
associated with increased risk of fatal crashes. We do about a 
quarter of our travel at night, but nearly half of motor 
vehicle occupant deaths and three-quarters of pedestrian deaths 
occur in the dark.
    Obviously, adjusting the clock cannot increase the number 
of daylight hours but can only shift how they align with work 
and school schedules.
    Since people travel at all times of day, and the risk 
created by darkness varies by road user type, the effects of 
these time changes on crashes are complex. The aim of our 
recent study was to examine the effect of changes in light 
conditions associated with the beginning and end of Daylight 
Saving Time. We examined 10 years of fatality data for the 5-
weeks before and after each time change and only considered 
crashes between 4 a.m. and 10 a.m., and between 3 p.m. and 9 
p.m. Ambient light conditions were calculated using the sunrise 
and sunset times corresponding to the geographic coordinates of 
each crash.
    Crashes resulting in vehicle occupant deaths fell 7 percent 
in the 5-weeks after the time change in the fall and increased 
12 percent in the 5-weeks after the time change in the spring. 
The opposite was true for crashes resulting in pedestrian or 
bicyclist deaths. Those crashes rose 13 percent in the fall, 
and declined 24 percent in the spring. The net effect was 26 
fewer morning and evening crashes with pedestrian or bicyclist 
fatalities per year, and 29 additional morning and evening 
crashes with vehicle occupant fatalities.
    It is important to emphasize that our study does not point 
to a preference for Standard Time or Daylight Saving Time based 
on road safety alone. The clearest take away from this research 
is that there is a strong relationship between increased 
darkness and fatal crashes, particularly for pedestrians and 
bicyclists. This is consistent with previous studies, including 
our own work from 30 years ago examining the effects of 
Daylight Saving Time.
    While the clock may not hold the answer to our road safety 
crisis, there are known solutions for protecting pedestrians in 
dark and low-light conditions, and for reducing the crash toll 
overall. We should commit to infrastructure and vehicle 
improvements that have been shown to increase safety for 
pedestrians and bicyclists on different types of roadways in 
urban, suburban, and rural environments.
    This includes engineering treatments to improve motor 
shielding behavior, and vehicle technologies such as better 
headlights and automatic emergency braking.
    Efforts are also needed to address speed on our roadways. 
The speed effect on crash severity is more pronounced for 
pedestrians and bicyclists who do not have the benefit of the 
vehicle structure to protect them. Speed limit policy, 
enforcement, engineering, and vehicle technology all have a 
role to play in slowing down drivers. Such a multipronged 
strategy to improve pedestrian and bicyclist safety at night 
exemplifies the safe system approach, which the U.S. DOT has 
adopted as the guiding paradigm of the National Roadway Safety 
Strategy. But implementation has simply been too slow.
    We are alarmed by the rising toll of crashes on our 
Nation's roads and dismayed by the lack of urgency to fix the 
problem. For this reason, we recently launched an initiative we 
are calling 30x30, a goal to reduce U.S. fatalities 30 percent 
by 2030. Achieving this reduction will require concerted effort 
by all stakeholders. We will increase our efforts to address 
risky behaviors, seek opportunities to improve safety for 
everyone inside and outside the vehicle, and explore ways to 
make commercial vehicle fleets safer.
    We ask everybody who cares about the needless loss of life 
on our roadways, including this committee, to think about what 
they can contribute to achieving the 30x30 goal.
    Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Dr. Harkey follows:]

            Prepared Statement of David Harkey, President, 
             Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS)
    Chairman Cruz, Ranking Member Cantwell, and Members of the 
Committee--thank you for the opportunity to share my organization's 
research on the road safety implications of daylight saving time.
    The Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) is an 
independent, nonprofit scientific and educational organization 
dedicated to reducing deaths, injuries and property damage from motor 
vehicle crashes through research and evaluation and through education 
of consumers, policymakers, and safety professionals. Our work is 
wholly supported by U.S. and Canadian auto insurers.
    When discussing any topic on road safety in the United States, it 
is important to set the stage. Simply put, we are in the middle of a 
road safety emergency. Crash deaths have risen nearly 30 percent since 
2014, from below 33,000 to more than 42,000 in 2022. Pedestrian deaths, 
in particular, have reached crisis levels, climbing 83 percent from 
their low point in 2009.
    Changing the clocks twice a year is relevant to road safety first 
and foremost because it affects the amount of ambient light during peak 
times for travel. We know that darkness is associated with increased 
risk of fatal crashes. According to data from the National Highway 
Traffic Safety Administration and the Federal Highway Administration, 
less than a quarter of trips begin during nighttime hours, but nearly 
half of motor vehicle occupant deaths and 77 percent of pedestrian 
deaths occur in the dark. Obviously, adjusting the clock cannot 
increase the number of daylight hours, but can only shift how they 
align with work and school schedules. Since people travel at all times 
of day and the risk created by darkness varies by road user type, the 
effects of these time changes on crashes are complex.
    IIHS sought to tease out some of this complexity in a recent 
study.\1\ When we looked at morning and evening crash patterns in the 
weeks surrounding the time changes, we found that the current policy 
results in a net annual decrease of 26 crashes with pedestrian or 
bicyclist fatalities per year but a net annual increase of 29 crashes 
with vehicle occupant fatalities. Safety improves for pedestrians after 
``springing ahead,'' while vehicle occupants fare better after 
``falling back.'' Further investigation showed that the fluctuation in 
pedestrian crash deaths is clearly tied to the amount of ambient light, 
but there is no clear connection for vehicle occupant fatalities.
    If you are looking for concrete guidance on whether to keep the 
current twice-yearly time changes, to make daylight saving time 
permanent, or to abolish it completely, you may find this study 
unsatisfying, as the evidence does not point definitively one way or 
another. What our study does reinforce is that pedestrians and 
bicyclists are at greater risk in low light and dark conditions. Thus, 
whatever you decide to do about the clock, I hope you will also 
consider actions to keep pedestrians and bicyclists safe, especially 
after sundown.
IIHS study of daylight saving time
    The aim of our recent study was to examine the effect of changes in 
light conditions associated with the beginning and end of daylight 
saving time, rather than the short-term sleep disruption associated 
with changing the clock. IIHS researchers looked at data from the U.S. 
Department of Transportation's Fatality Analysis Reporting System for 
the 5 weeks before and after each time change from 2010 through 2019. 
Only crashes between 4 a.m. and 10 a.m. and between 3 p.m. and 9 p.m. 
were considered. Ambient light conditions were calculated using the 
sunrise and sunset times corresponding to the geographic coordinates of 
each crash.
    Crashes resulting in vehicle occupant deaths fell 7 percent in the 
5 weeks after the time change in the fall and increased 12 percent in 
the 5 weeks after the time change in the spring. The opposite was true 
for crashes resulting in pedestrian or bicyclist deaths. Those crashes 
rose 13 percent in the fall and declined 24 percent in the spring.
    As mentioned, the net effect was 26 fewer morning and evening 
crashes with pedestrian or bicyclist fatalities per year and 29 
additional morning and evening crashes with vehicle occupant 
fatalities.
    When we looked at the time of day when the crashes occurred and the 
associated light conditions, we found that all of the decrease in 
pedestrian fatalities could be attributed to an increase in the amount 
of light, while only two of the additional crashes resulting in vehicle 
occupant deaths were due to less light.
    It's unclear why the effect of the time change on vehicle occupant 
fatalities was opposite of the effect on pedestrians. The results 
suggest that unlike the effect on pedestrians, the vehicle occupant 
effect was largely unrelated to light conditions. It's possible that 
factors including driver drowsiness or behavioral changes in response 
to the time changes played a role, but our study did not examine those 
things.
    It is important to emphasize that our study does not point to a 
preference for standard time or daylight saving time based on road 
safety alone. In addition to the diverging results for different road 
user groups, we should keep in mind that an extra hour of light on one 
end of the workday is counterbalanced by an extra hour of darkness on 
the other end.
    The clearest takeaway from this research is that there is a strong 
relationship between increased darkness and fatal crashes, particularly 
for pedestrians and bicyclists. This is consistent with previous 
studies, including our own work from 30 years ago examining the effects 
of daylight saving time.\2\
Improving safety after dark
    While the clock may not hold the answer to our road safety crisis, 
there are known solutions for protecting pedestrians after dark and for 
reducing the crash toll overall.
    First of all, we should commit to infrastructure and vehicle 
improvements that have been shown to improve safety for pedestrians and 
bicyclists on different types of roadways in urban, suburban, and rural 
areas. Our research has shown that crosswalk lighting, rectangular 
rapid flashing beacons, and pedestrian hybrid beacons all make drivers 
more likely to yield to pedestrians.\3\,\4\ Improved 
headlights are also key, allowing drivers to detect pedestrians further 
down the roadway. Vehicles with good marks for visibility in IIHS 
headlight evaluations have 23 percent fewer nighttime pedestrian 
crashes than vehicles with poor-visibility headlights.\5\
    Our work on passenger-vehicle automatic emergency braking that can 
detect and respond to pedestrians shows that this technology cuts 
pedestrian crash rates 27 percent.\6\ In the last few years, automakers 
have been improving the performance of these systems at night in 
response to IIHS tests. Making these systems work better at night is 
key to addressing the three-quarters of pedestrian fatalities that 
occur in dark and low-light conditions.
    Efforts are also needed to address speed on our roadways. Higher 
vehicle speeds make crashes of all types more likely and more deadly. 
The speed effect on crash severity is more pronounced for pedestrians 
and bicyclists, who don't have a vehicle's structure to protect them. 
In one study of U.S. pedestrian crashes, the average risk of severe 
injury to a pedestrian increased from 10 percent at an impact speed of 
17 mph to 25 percent at 25 mph, 50 percent at 33 mph, 75 percent at 41 
mph, and 90 percent at 48 mph.\7\
    Reducing speed limits, especially in areas with high pedestrian 
traffic, is an obvious solution. Enforcement must also play a role, and 
traditional methods can be supplemented by the wider use of speed 
safety cameras. Engineering measures such as curb bulb-outs, multiway 
stop signs, left-turn hardening devices, and roundabouts could be more 
widely deployed to slow vehicles at intersections. Broader adoption of 
intelligent speed assistance in vehicles could change drivers' behavior 
and even their mindset.\8\
Addressing the larger road safety crisis
    Such a multipronged strategy to improve pedestrian and bicyclist 
safety at night exemplifies the Safe System approach, which the U.S. 
Department of Transportation has adopted as the ``guiding paradigm'' of 
the National Roadway Safety Strategy.\9\ While the Department should be 
commended for committing to this principle, little progress has been 
made to translate it into action and reverse the Nation's fatality 
trend.
    We at IIHS are alarmed by the rising toll of crashes on our 
Nation's roads and dismayed by an apparent lack of urgency to fix the 
problem. For this reason, we recently launched an initiative we are 
calling 30x30--a goal to reduce U.S. fatalities 30 percent by 2030.\10\ 
Achieving this reduction will require a concerted effort by all 
stakeholders. For our part, IIHS has laid out a series of concrete 
research, testing, and education actions that we are undertaking as 
part of our 5-year strategic plan. We will increase our efforts to 
address risky behaviors, seek opportunities to improve safety for 
everyone inside and outside the vehicle, and explore ways to make the 
country's heavy and light commercial vehicle fleets safer. We ask 
everybody who cares about the needless loss of life on our roads--
including this Committee--to think about what they can contribute to 
achieving the 30x30 goal.
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goal-can-help-us-reset

                STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN CURTIS, 
                     U.S. SENATOR FROM UTAH

    Senator Curtis [presiding]. Thank you. You will notice the 
freshmen have taken over this committee.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Curtis. And we have an agenda, don't we? Yes.
    Listen, I am pleased to be here. John Curtis from Utah, and 
thank you, panel, for this important topic, and I think it is 
fair to say that my constituents share the same frustration 
that has been articulated here by the back and forth.
    Mr. Yates, you mentioned in your testimony that the only 
reason we still have this time change every 6 months is due to 
the Federal Government's inability to decide between Standard 
or Daylight Savings Time, which one is best. Based on your 
research and your outreach, do you have any indication how many 
states would opt out and maintain permanent Standard Time if 
your proposal for permanent Daylight Savings Time were enacted?
    Mr. Yates. Thank you, Senator, for the question. I do not 
have a specific answer. I can talk to you about some of the 
conversations that I have had with state legislators, 
including, I do not know if you know Dr. Raymond Ward in Utah.
    Senator Curtis. Yes. Sure.
    Mr. Yates. He was the sponsor of the bill there, and he 
thought--and he said, all of his constituents told him that the 
state preferred--that everybody preferred to stay in permanent 
Daylight Time in Utah. Utah might be a case where Standard Time 
might be a good option, and that is why I think the 2-year 
implementation would actually be a great chance for everybody 
in Utah to look at what the sun----
    Senator Curtis. Well, let me jump. Let us talk about Utah.
    Mr. Yates. Sure.
    Senator Curtis. You are correct. They have actually passed 
legislation to stay on permanent Daylight Savings Time. And I 
guess my question is, why should not states have the right to 
make this decision? Don't they know best about what they want 
for their constituents? And you know, why are not we giving 
more accommodation to states, and particularly Utah who has 
spoken so vocally about what they would like?
    Mr. Yates. I am sorry, Senator, are you asking is there a 
way that the states could opt out of?
    Senator Curtis. So my point is----
    Mr. Yates. Yes.
    Senator Curtis.--states know what is best for them.
    Mr. Yates. Right?
    Senator Curtis. Some states, like Utah, clearly have a 
preference, and some would go the other way.
    Mr. Yates. Yes.
    Senator Curtis. And I guess my question is, now let me tie 
that into the next question, is we could see a patchwork, which 
I suspect might be the answer to that. Now, Utah, by the way, 
we abut Arizona, and so my whole life we have watched Arizona 
mock us, right, as we all change our times, and somehow we have 
navigated that just fine, right, without any problem. And then 
I would also bring up, the technology is in a very different 
place than it was years ago and our ability to adapt to this.
    So do you worry about a patchwork, or are we OK with that?
    Mr. Yates. Thank you for the question, Senator. I think 
that less complexity in the system is better. It is natural to 
think that there would be a patchwork if we allowed more states 
to opt into permanent Standard Time, but we have a patchwork 
now. What we would be creating is less of a patchwork because 
the lines might change a little bit.
    For instance, Indiana, for instance, may decide that it is 
better for the whole state of Indiana to be in Central Time 
with Chicago, which it abuts and which is a thousand miles from 
Boston. And so it would not create a patchwork, it would just 
create a change in where the line is.
    And so the first and most important thing is decreasing and 
eliminating the clock changing, which decreases complexity. And 
then once we have got that stability, it will not be a 
patchwork. It will just be we know what time it is in Indiana, 
because of all this.
    Senator Curtis. Just the way we have accommodated it too, 
with Arizona.
    Mr. Yates. Exactly.
    Senator Curtis. Right. And if we are honest we, like your 
point, we already have these lines, and they do just fine with 
that.
    Mr. Yates. Yes.
    Senator Curtis. And so, just for the record, I am a strong 
advocate to let my state do what they prefer to do. And feel 
like they know how to make those decisions best.
    I am going to use just a little bit of time for actually a 
very interesting personal question, Dr. Johnson. Given all the 
effects that we have heard about, what is the likelihood that 
if somebody had a profession where they were moving across the 
country twice a week and changing time zones, an hour, or 2 
hours, or sometimes 3 hours, that they would be subject to 
those same problems?
    Dr. Johnson. So you know, a lot of us can relate to jet 
lag. One thing that happens with jet lag is you are moving to a 
new time where the sun is in the sky. And so we adjust to that 
within a day or two, we get to the new time zone depending on 
how far we are going. What happens with going to permanent 
Daylight Savings Time is we are changing the clock time, but we 
are not changing the sun. That is why there is this perpetual 
misalignment that has more stresses and harms to our body over 
the long run.
    So very frequent time travel with a lot of adjust is a big 
strain on the body; but for most people that do not do it all 
the time, we do adjust within days, and we can get, you know, 
that better health and more misalignment--or more alignment of 
our rhythms within days.
    Senator Curtis. Unless, within days, you are going back to 
the previous time zone?
    Dr. Johnson. That is why they are really frequent, not 
good.
    Senator Curtis. All right. I think I have made my point. I 
will yield to the Ranking Member.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Thank you to my fellow freshman 
and classmate, Senator Curtis. And also thank you to Senator 
Cantwell for the opportunity to be Ranking Member today. And I 
also want to thank the witnesses.
    You know, this is one of the issues that a lot of times we 
will get messages from our constituents. People have strong 
opinions. And I was literally in a meeting before this with a 
CEO of a company who asked: Well, what do you think? And so 
this is something that does touch on so many.
    And I want to start my questions with you, Dr. Harkey, 
because year-round Daylight Saving Time would mean later 
sunrises in the mornings, more people may be commuting to work 
or into school in the dark. Some people have raised concerns 
that this would put their children at greater risk of being hit 
by cars while walking to school. Pedestrians are more likely to 
be killed in traffic accidents, as you stated, in the dark, 
because it is harder for the drivers to see them.
    And in the 1970s, it was widely reported that mothers 
raised significant concerns about their children walking to 
school in the dark in the winter. Nationwide, over 70 percent 
of fatal accidents involving pedestrians occur at night. Dr. 
Harkey, no matter what time the sun goes down, what roadway 
improvements can cities and states make to reduce pedestrian 
fatalities?
    Dr. Harkey. Thank you for the question, Senator. That is 
exactly what our study indicated is that it is not about the 
shifting of the time. We are going to have darkness regardless 
of which decision you make, which policy decision you make. And 
so that is what we are looking for, is to try and figure out 
how do we make pedestrians and bicyclists, in particular, safer 
in those dark hours, whether they are in the morning or whether 
they are in the evening.
    And for most municipalities and county agencies and state 
DOTs who are struggling to address this issue, there is two key 
things: One is space, we have to provide the appropriate space, 
sidewalks. In rural areas, that can be separated paths, or 
possibly paved shoulders, even places for people to walk where 
they are not in the edge of the travel lane.
    We also have to take care to provide careful crossings. So 
we have to pay particular attention to how we are allowing 
motor vehicles and pedestrians to interact at crosswalks. These 
can be at intersections. They can be at midblock locations. So 
you have to have appropriate crossings. Pedestrians are not 
going to walk too far. They are going to make those decisions 
to cross in the middle of the road sometimes, and so you want 
to make sure that you are providing adequate crossings where 
they want to cross.
    And then you have got to do all you can to provide the 
kinds of traffic control devices that will increase motorist 
yielding behavior. So this includes things like rapid flash 
beacons, which have been shown to increase motorist yielding 
behavior six-fold. You can build on that. Adding simple things 
like lights that are triggered when a pedestrian hits the 
crosswalk area. It will light up that crosswalk. You can double 
the amount of motorist yielding behavior.
    So these are interventions that have been proven over time, 
and it is important for state agencies and local agencies to 
take advantage of those kinds of interventions and get those 
implemented anywhere that they have pedestrians.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Following along on the safety 
theme, what vehicle technologies can help protect pedestrians 
when it is difficult for drivers to see them?
    Dr. Harkey. Yes. And so this is another important aspect, 
and this is what builds on the safe system approach, right, 
building that redundancy into the systems. You do not just rely 
on the infrastructure; you also build technology into vehicles 
that can help with this.
    Two big things that we have studied, one is better 
headlights. We are the only group in the world that test 
headlights the way that we do on our track, and so we have seen 
improvements in headlights over the years that increase 
visibility and provide drivers with additional time. They can 
see that pedestrian further down the roadway. And so that is a 
big change, and we will continue to push for that.
    The other is automatic emergency braking with pedestrian 
detection, that also has been shown to work and be very 
effective at reducing pedestrian crashes in the daytime, and 
now our testing is really focused on getting automakers to 
improve those systems to work even better at nighttime, so that 
is an example of two technologies in the vehicle that can be 
really, really beneficial.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. You know, one of the things that I 
have noticed is that our safety efforts are siloed. You have 
the Federal Highway Administration, which builds and maintains 
highways, you have the National Highway Traffic Safety 
Administration, which regulates vehicle safety standards and 
investigates defects, then you have got the Federal Motor 
Carrier Safety Administration, which oversees commercial motor 
vehicles and trucking industry safety all kind of working 
separately.
    And I think back to what you were talking about, about kind 
of--how can we better layer safety measures to help stop deadly 
crashes?
    Dr. Harkey. Yes. You are absolutely right. And so build on 
top the separation and the Federal agencies that you just 
discussed, along with them, you have state DOTs, you have 
county DOTs, you have city DOTs, and so it becomes quite the 
web of how you make decisions when it comes to road safety.
    One of the things that we have to do a better job of is 
communicating between those agencies, deliberately. And so 
there is no single authority of the ones that you mentioned 
that has complete authority over every decision on our roadway 
system when it comes to safety. And so these agencies have to 
do a better job of communicating together deliberately, and not 
just at the executive level, but at the staff level, because it 
is at the staff level where people know what interventions work 
best and how to apply those in a way that you create that 
redundancy in the system that we were talking about.
    So whether it is infrastructure, whether it is vehicle, 
whether it is changing behaviors, that communication amongst 
the staff is absolutely critical.
    Senator Blunt Rochester. Great. Thank you. And I was really 
interested to hear about your 30x30. So in the interest of 
time, I will yield back to the Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you very much, and I want to thank each 
of the witnesses for being here on what is a very interesting 
topic, and important topic, and complex topic. There are very 
real and complicated issues and countervailing arguments on 
both sides. I think there is widespread agreement on locking 
the clock, but where to lock it, the reason we are holding 
these hearings is because these are real arguments, and they 
have real impacts on people.
    Let me start on the health side. Dr. Johnson, can you 
expand on the impact sleep deprivation has on our overall 
health, on our minds, our moods, and especially on young 
children, for whom we know sleep is so vital?
    Dr. Johnson. Thank you for asking about that. Yes, sleep 
comes--you know, has different aspects. So one is just how much 
we sleep, but it is the quality of sleep, and then the timing 
of sleep, so any disturbance in that can affect how we do. So 
we know that kids, even if over a whole week they get enough 
sleep, if they do not get enough during the week and catch up 
on the weekend, they still do not do as well.
    And so sleep and our circadian rhythms, they really 
regulate every aspect of our body, our metabolism. They affect 
how we think about things, they affect our choices of food. You 
are more likely to grab a celery stick when you have got enough 
sleep, but grab that bagel or that candy bar when you are 
sleep-deprived.
    Athletic performance, we know, is better when people do 
sleep, academic success in school. And then mental health has 
some of the most, deep connections to sleep health. And that is 
why even though people, you know, feel better when they see 
light, it is that timing of light and our circadian rhythms 
that is so deeply intertwined that if we can improve sleep, if 
we can improve those rhythms, we see those lower rates of 
depression overall. We see lower rates of suicide.
    And that is what the data, there was just a new study that 
came out just last week showing 6 percent higher rates of 
depression when the sunrises are set later, when we lose that 
critical morning light. And this gets exponentially worse in 
the winter when you lose the--you know, the light in the 
morning.
    So Texas and the southern states actually lose that morning 
light for a longer period because of the curve of the Earth the 
more even days. You get three to 4 months with it being dark 
after 8 a.m., and some of the darkest places in the country are 
actually in western Texas if we were to go to permanent 
Daylight Savings Time.
    And that is why in 1974, a lot of the push to end our 
experiment with Daylight Savings Time was actually pushed by 
states like Florida, and Texas, and the southern states.
    The Chairman. Can you also explain why consistent sleep 
patterns are important for teen brain development and mental 
health?
    Dr. Johnson. Yes. So again, this goes back to our circadian 
rhythms, and so better--so when our circadian rhythms are 
working well, they help us anticipate our day. And so what I 
mean by that is we have certain times when our body wants to go 
to sleep, and so teenagers, their natural rhythm is later. If 
any of you have been around a teenager, you cannot just say: Go 
to bed, you know, they are like: I am wide awake.
    We have this, what we call, a forbidden zone, their 
alertness just is skyrocketing in that time before bed. And so 
they cannot get to sleep on time. But if our social schedule is 
set an hour earlier, which is what Daylight Savings Time does, 
they do not have that opportunity to get the amount of sleep 
they need. And they tend to switch back and forth on weekends, 
and that switching affects us.
    And so that then affects how our brain functions. We know 
more and more about sleep being important for clearing toxins 
from our brain, which sets us up for things like dementia, 
Parkinson's disease. I just came back from the neuro conference 
with data pointing to, you know, the connections there. Our 
metabolism gets off, so we are more likely to gain weight. 
Again, even if people do exercise more, we see, like, 10 
percent higher rates of obesity in places where the sun sets 
later.
    So sleep is so critically important for our metabolic 
health, our overall health, our mental health, how our brain 
functions, which affects the safety issues. You know, the 
highway study, it found a higher risk of vehicle crashes even 
though it was light later, the effect of sleep is more powerful 
than almost anything else, and by aligning the sun we can 
really help that.
    The Chairman. So let us talk a little bit about the idea of 
states' rights. And I have heard from groups on both sides of 
this issue that want either permanent Standard Time or 
permanent Daylight Savings Time. Almost everyone agrees that 
changing the clock twice a year does not make sense.
    Mr. Yates, in your opening statement, you said that setting 
the clock is fundamentally a states' rights issue. Why do you 
think that decision should be left to the states?
    Mr. Yates. Thank you for the question, Senator. The main 
reason is geography, right. Like, we live on this big round 
ball, and the sun is moving, and the difference in where each 
state is makes a big difference in how the sunrise and sunset 
time applies. And so to say that there is one solution that is 
exactly right for, you know, Texas, and the exact same solution 
is right for Atlanta, for Georgia is, what I would posit, 
overreach by the Federal Government.
    And I might even go back to the example that is often cited 
about when the time change happened in the 1970s, and just to 
give a little context to why that was so--why that was such a 
failure, it is often cited that people did not like it because 
there were children that were put at risk in the dark waiting 
for school. It turns out, a lot of that is apocryphal, as we 
have heard, pedestrians are much safer with more light later in 
the day.
    But the thing that is interesting about that time change 
was, and this shows you how different politics was back in 
those days, that law was signed into law on December 15, 1973, 
right in the middle of Watergate. You could say that maybe it 
was a distraction from other things that were going on, but it 
was enacted on December 15th, on a Saturday.
    It was enacted--it took place on January 6, 1974, about 
three weeks later. So you can imagine, the worst Monday of the 
year already is the one after the holiday break, where you have 
to go back to school and everything, to have an extra hour of 
sleep robbed away right before that, you can understand why it 
was so unpopular and why it was repealed two months after Nixon 
resigned office.
    So it clearly does not work for the Federal Government to 
come and say this is a mandate of exactly what we should do for 
all of the country all at the same time. But it is the place of 
the Commerce Committee to say we need a well-regulated time 
system.
    And so it makes sense to get rid of the clock changing, and 
if we give 2 years to the states to be able to say, so that all 
of these arguments can be hashed out, and they are all valid 
arguments, but they can be hashed out in the geography of the 
place where it would actually apply. And they would have time 
to plan and figure out what is the appropriate time for school 
to start, to take in this evidence from neurologists, and what 
is the best time for all of the businesses to operate.
    The Chairman. So maybe if we had more daylight, the 
Watergate break-in does not happen, and history would be 
different.
    Dr. Johnson, you seem to disagree with having states decide 
on how they should lock the clock. In your judgment, why do you 
think that would be the wrong approach?
    Dr. Johnson. So time is a measure. So Congress has the 
control over setting measures. I think of my husband, he likes 
to make a joke: He is 6'6'' in the morning and 6'5'' in the 
afternoon. We do not change the length of a foot on his diurnal 
pattern of his height. Time is supposed to say, you know, how 
the sun is moving through the sky.
    And so if we set it to a Standard Time of the sun being 
closer to overhead at noon, now that is something we can go by, 
but states then can decide how they want to set their social 
schedules. So instead of sort of tricking people into, you 
know: You all have to get up early no matter what; let us have 
each state decide when they want their schools to start, when 
businesses want to start, but let us fix a measure of time that 
actually has a meaning, where the sun is overhead, and then 
adjust, you know, the social schedule around it. And that is 
definitely something the states should decide on.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Senator Lujan.

               STATEMENT OF HON. BEN RAY LUJAN, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO

    Senator Lujan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
being here today.
    Dr. Johnson, thank you for joining us today. I saw that the 
American Academy of Neurology sent the Committee a letter 
encouraging us to consider that Standard Time, not Daylight 
Savings Time, is the best to align with our body's natural 
clocks. Many people still sleep through the morning light or 
after the early sunrises. Does that mean that light is being 
wasted if they are not using it awake?
    Dr. Johnson. So light helps us get up. You know, most 
people will wake up naturally after light. Now, some people, my 
teenagers, could easily sleep until noon, and that makes them 
actually more likely to shift their schedules even later. So 
when you miss morning light, which is needed to reset your 
rhythm, or if you get too much light in the evenings, you drift 
later and have even more trouble getting up in the morning.
    And so that is why, if we actually set it so the sun is 
rising earlier in the morning, more people will actually, 
naturally, because their circadian rhythms start saying, ``get 
up on time'' rather than ``get up so late'', will be able to be 
ready for the day, be able to have their circadian rhythms help 
their health, help their metabolism which is good--going to be 
good for heart disease, stroke risk, dementia risk, all these 
other sort of chronic health problems.
    Senator Lujan. I appreciate that. To all the panelists, 
what does this mean for New Mexico, for our farmers, school 
children and teenagers, the elderly, workers, and tourism, and 
recreation? What would permanent daylight Standard Time or 
permanent Standard Time mean for these communities? One or the 
other, I apologize, not an ``or''? Mr. Yates?
    Mr. Yates. Senator, thank you for the question. New Mexico 
is another real leader in early movements to try to lock the 
clock. Senator Cliff Pirtle--State Senator Cliff Pirtle worked 
on this. I worked with him closely for a long time. The effects 
on everybody in New Mexico of the clock changing is the same, 
which is, it is very disruptive, it is not disruptive equally 
for everybody, but for a lot of people, it is. A lot of--you 
know, all the things that we have cited, all the different 
health studies show that.
    The thing that I have been advocating today about the two-
year implementation period would be especially helpful for New 
Mexico because you have a tricky little trade region where you 
abut West Texas, which is in the Mountain Time Zone, and part 
of Mexico. And so there is a region where interstate commerce 
is directly affected.
    And so all of Mexico recently decided to lock the clock, 
except for the part that is attached to West Texas and New 
Mexico, and so these issues of commerce are complicated and do 
take a little while to work out. So that is the one thing I 
would say, is that that sort of thing should be addressed 
carefully.
    Senator Lujan. Mr. Karen.
    Mr. Karen. I would say that the golf courses in New Mexico, 
which enjoy mostly afternoon and evening light, all the great 
hiking that goes on in New Mexico, the rock climbing, the hot 
air ballooning, all of that would be seriously curbed if 
Daylight Saving Time was removed. And that would be, I think, a 
detriment to the New Mexico economy and people's time and 
ability to get outside and enjoy what you have.
    Senator Lujan. You are suggesting that people hike and golf 
in the morning?
    Mr. Karen. No, they do all that in the afternoon. And if 
Standard Time was made permanent, they would feel forced to do 
it in the morning. But they have to go to school. They have to 
go to work. And I do not think they would be able to make that 
shift.
    Senator Lujan. I appreciate that. Dr. Johnson.
    Dr. Johnson. Yes. I would say, if anything, you know, you 
have a neighboring state, Arizona, that does very well on 
Standard Time and has shown that the golf industry can thrive. 
If anything, a lot of people say, and one of the reasons 
Arizona says they stayed on Standard Time, is because it gets 
too hot later. So a lot of people do like to do exercise later, 
and that often is actually a better time for our health to get 
our exercise in. So if we can get people up so that they can be 
more active in the morning and get this exercise and enjoy all 
the wonderful things like hiking, which I know, when I have 
gone to places like New Mexico, I do in the morning you know, I 
think that we can still have all these activities on either 
time, but I think Standard Time is the healthier choice.
    Senator Lujan. Dr. Harkey.
    Dr. Harkey. So our work was looking at fatality data 
nationally rather than by individual states, in part due to 
sample size. But if the patterns hold in New Mexico, just like 
they have in our research across the country, then we are going 
to see an offset between the number of motor vehicle occupant 
deaths that have risen slightly during the time change periods, 
and pedestrian and bicyclist deaths that have decreased 
slightly during that same time period.
    And so the net effect is one of really no change when we 
look at road safety data alone. And so if you are trying to 
make this decision on the basis of just road safety, I do not 
think the results of our study are going to point you in one 
direction or the other.
    Senator Lujan. As a follow up to that, Dr. Harkey, Dr. 
Johnson pointed to a study from a professor at Eastern New 
Mexico University, Jeff Gentry, who showed 20 percent higher 
car crashes in locations where sunrises and sunsets are later. 
Now, I understand your point that darkness is a key measure of 
accidents, but this data shows me that sleep effects are 
powerful indicators as well. How do you view the risk of sleep 
deprivation on accidents versus risks from darkness?
    Dr. Harkey. So our study did not look specifically at that 
particular issue. I know other studies have, methodologies 
differ. Most of the studies that have tried to look strictly at 
that small amount of time change before and after in the 
crashes concur that the real issue here is the amount of 
ambient light and the time of day when it occurs. That darkness 
is the real key, and you just need to make sure that you are 
providing good safety interventions to address issues of 
darkness.
    So whether that is improving technologies in the vehicles 
such as headlights, automatic emergency braking, or whether you 
are putting in infrastructure measures that add more lighting, 
add more space for pedestrians and bicyclists to keep them 
separated from motorists, whatever you can do to reduce those 
conflicts in the darkness and improve awareness of other road 
users in the darkness, will be beneficial----
    Senator Lujan. Appreciate that.
    Dr. Harkey.--regardless of the time change.
    Senator Lujan. It sounds like you support my legislation to 
require technology be installed in vehicles to prevent impaired 
crashes, so I will take that as well. We will share that with 
my colleagues.
    Mr. Chairman, I have one more question for Mr. Yates on 
Standard Time versus Daylight Savings. I will submit it into 
the record.
    And just a note to the panelists, the reason I am asking so 
much about sleep is, as my colleagues know, I suffered a stroke 
3 years ago. I have learned a lot about the importance of 
sleep. I definitely lived my life burning the candle at both 
ends, and now I do my due diligence to embrace sleep hygiene 
and all the rest. And so that is bearing a lot into this 
conversation that I am having with my constituents and others.
    Mr. Chairman, I very much appreciate this hearing, though. 
Thank you all for being here.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Young.

                 STATEMENT OF HON. TODD YOUNG, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM INDIANA

    Senator Young. Well, I thank all of you for being here. I 
am the senior senator from the state of Indiana, and we have 
quite a history with Daylight Savings Time. For those of you 
who have consumed old ``Parks and Rec'' episodes, you may have 
seen the one that focused on this particular topic.
    But let me walk through some of the things that have 
transpired in our state, and I will weave in there some of the 
unique perspectives that Hoosiers have brought to this. Until 
2006, our state was chronologically divided, you might say, 
with some counties observing Daylight Savings Time and others 
not. And then in 2006, after years of debate, furious debate, 
our state decided to become the 48th state to adopt Daylight 
Savings Time.
    In central Indiana, on the shortest day of the year, 
December 21, the sun currently rises at 8:02 a.m. and sets at 
5:23 p.m. Under permanent Daylight Savings Time, sunrise would 
be delayed until 9:02 a.m., meaning Hoosiers would begin their 
day in darkness for much of the winter.
    What works for East Coast states, I am hearing from many of 
my constituents, might not work for states like Indiana. We 
have 12 counties in the western part of the state that are in 
the Central Time Zone. So Evansville, Indiana, if you are 
familiar with that, you have got up near Chicago what we call 
``the Region'' affectionately, and there are 80 other counties 
that are in the Eastern Time Zone.
    So you know, this sort of suggests that maybe a one-size-
fits-all national policy on time changes does not take into 
account the regional differences that significantly impact 
daily life. I understand we have a charge, Article I, Section 
8, to facilitate interstate commerce. It was one of the major 
arguments of facilitating interstate commerce from the state 
level when we had this debate. So I anticipate we have heard 
that. I anticipate I will hear more of that from my colleagues, 
but that has to be balanced against other considerations, of 
course.
    Leaving this decision to the states might allow local 
leaders, who best understand their communities, to weigh the 
specific needs of their residents, states along this line of 
argument, are in a better position to evaluate how changes in 
daylight hours affect school schedules, commuting patterns, 
public safety, and economic activity.
    So I guess to the panel, do you believe that states like 
Indiana, with their unique cultures, and geographical 
challenges, and even histories as it relates to this issue, 
should have the flexibility to make their own decision, or do 
you think this decision should be standardized across the 
country?
    We will begin with Mr. Yates, and I will give everyone an 
opportunity to speak to that, if you like. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Yates. Thank you, Senator Young, for the question. And 
I mentioned Indiana in my opening statement because it is a 
perfect example of why the Commerce Committee needs to approach 
this carefully. Because to impose onto Indiana a solution that 
is the same as for New York and for New England is not in the 
best interest of the people of Indiana and is a little bit 
rude.
    The one thing that I might say, though, is that I have 
never been to Indiana to testify, but I did go to Michigan to 
testify about their Daylight Saving Time bill. And I went to 
Nebraska and to Kansas, which are states like Indiana on the 
western edge of their time zones and would make the most sense 
for them to be in Standard Time.
    And I advocated for that with the state senators and state 
representatives in those states. And all of them told me that 
all of their constituents do not care. They would rather, like 
they are in the middle of the winter, they are already going to 
school and, right, going to work in the dark, and they would 
just like to have a little bit of time after school and after 
work to be in the light. So I said, OK, this is your state.
    Senator Young. All right.
    Mr. Yates. You get to pick.
    Senator Young. Thank you. Thank you for your response.
    Mr. Karen.
    Mr. Karen. Well, I am no constitutional scholar, for sure, 
but I do not see in the Constitution where it says that the 
Federal Government regulates time. I do not know if time falls 
under Commerce. So it would naturally fall to the states if the 
Federal Government is not empowered to do so.
    The Chairman. We have the view that everything falls under 
Commerce.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Karen. I appreciate that. I will say, you know, I feel 
it is less of a state issue than it feels like a personal 
issue. And the ability to do, for example, to Senator Lujan's 
comments, I can simulate or practice sleep hygiene whether the 
sun is up or down. But I cannot simulate sun hygiene. I cannot 
light the world when we want to be out there when it is dark, 
right.
    And so I think, to me it comes down to which choice, if you 
were to land on one, is going to be harder to adjust to. We are 
already on Daylight Saving Time for 8 months, so we would have 
to adjust for 4 months. If you reverse it, then we are 
adjusting 8 months of our calendar.
    Senator Young. Thank you, sir. Dr. Johnson, would you like 
to say something about this?
    Dr. Johnson. Yes. I want to talk about the western edge of 
time zones. States like yours are more aligned with Central 
Time Zones. So already on Standard Time, your sun is going to 
be overhead closer to 1. When we go to Daylight Savings Time, 
now it is closer to 2. And we see that this really impacts 
health risks, mental health risks, safety risks, how kids do in 
school.
    I want to highlight one Indiana study. When you guys ended 
going to the parts of the state that were on Standard Time----
    Senator Young. Wait, you are coming with a study? You are 
citing a study? Are we allowed to do that in this--is that 
consistent with the rules, Chairman Cruz? I am kidding, of 
course.
    Dr. Johnson. So when part of Indiana ended Standard Time 
and went to seasonal Daylight Savings Time, they found that 
kids' high school test scores were actually much better when 
they were on Standard Time and dropped when they switched to 
even seasonal Daylight Savings Time. And that is not adding the 
exponential harms of bringing those 9 a.m. sunrises, like you 
said.
    So we would love every place to be more in line with the 
sun. And as you said, states have different needs, you know, 
needs to get closer to that idea.
    Senator Young. Thank you, Doctor.
    Dr. Harkey.
    Dr. Harkey. So we did not have a preference in our study 
for one time or the other in terms of how you set it. What our 
study showed was that the risk of fatalities for pedestrians 
and bicyclists in particular rises at night, and it rises for 
all motorists as well at night.
    So the real key is, regardless of which decision you make 
and which time zone you use, you have got to make sure that you 
are putting interventions in that is going to help with those 
who are traveling in those dark hours, whether it is more in 
the morning or more in the afternoon and evening, that is the 
real key, and particularly for pedestrians and bicyclists, who 
are the overwhelming number of fatalities that are occurring in 
those dark hours.
    Senator Young. I see. I am very much over time.
    I see that Mr. Karen has something he wants to say, so I 
have been given leave by the Chairman. Please, go ahead.
    Mr. Karen. I just want to point out that Senator Scott's 
bill, the Sunshine Protection Act, kind of threads the needle. 
It creates a Federal Daylight Saving Time but allows every 
state to opt out if they choose. So I think that is maybe the 
best answer here.
    Senator Young. Good point. All right.
    Thank you, Chairman.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Senator Markey.

               STATEMENT OF HON. EDWARD MARKEY, 
                U.S. SENATOR FROM MASSACHUSETTS

    Senator Markey. Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, very much. So 
it is 1985. It is my fifth term in the U.S. House of 
Representatives, and I become the Chairman of the Energy 
Subcommittee on the Energy and Commerce Committee. And 
searching through the jurisdiction of this wonderful 
subcommittee is, time. I guess somebody is going to have to be 
Chairman over time. And it is me. I am Chairman of time.
    And nothing had been driving me crazier than the birds 
chirping, you know, at 5 a.m. in the morning. It is sunshine 
out. It is the end of April. This is not good. So I began a 
negotiation with Bill Goodling, who is a Republican from 
Pennsylvania, to move time. And it was a hard, grudging 
discussion, but I was able to move it from the end of April to 
the beginning of April in 1986. And so that changed it, because 
at that point it was 6 months daylight, 6 months standard.
    So I was able to claw back three weeks, pretty much to 
right now. Otherwise, we would still be another two or 3 weeks 
where there is no Daylight Savings Time. Then Congressman 
Goodling left, and so in 2005 I am still on the Energy 
Subcommittee. So with Fred Upton, who is a Republican from 
Michigan, we cut another deal, and we moved it to the beginning 
of March. And we also said, let us put Halloween in Daylight 
Savings Time, and so we moved it into the beginning of 
November.
    So at that point, I am at 8 Daylight, 4 Standard. OK. So I 
am kind of proud of my two bills Changing Time. You know, they 
started to call me the Sun King, which I was kind of proud of, 
because those are big bills, Mr. Chairman, that is moving time, 
and the whole world then starts to move to that standard.
    So we had to stop there. And then two years ago, Senator 
Rubio and I, we had a bill to do Daylight Savings Time year-
round, and it passed by unanimous consent out on the floor of 
the Senate. It was then stalled in the House, never had a vote 
over there. But I consider this kind of an inexorable march 
toward more sunshine that people can enjoy, not while they are 
asleep, you know, having the sun come in early in the morning.
    So that is my goal. My goal is just to make sure people get 
more sunshine in the evening, when they can use it, especially, 
as I heard your opening statement, Mr. Chairman, as our economy 
has changed, and we are not an agricultural-predominant economy 
any longer, although farmers play a vital role in our society, 
but we are more into the economy that we all live in today.
    So I guess my first question, Mr. Karen, is how would 
extending evening daylight support small businesses in your 
industry?
    Mr. Karen. It would add to the golf industry at least $1 
billion of economic activity. The average golf course would see 
an increase in approximately $250,000 in revenue. And I mean, 
that is an economic argument. But the golfers around America, 
the 30 million golfers would get to enjoy all of that. So that 
is the argument.
    Senator Markey. Right. But it is also true that, let us 
just go back to 1986, it is hard to start your Little League 
practices if it is still dark in the evening at the end of 
April. The kids are still not going to be allowed out into the 
dark, or you are playing tennis or walking around. So that 
change was very important to us in 1986.
    Mr. Karen. Yes. Yes.
    Senator Markey. And then again in 2009?
    Mr. Karen. My brother happens to be an athletic director at 
a high school, and he said: We do not like having to spend 
money on lights for every single activity that happens after 
school.
    Senator Markey. Yes. So would an additional hour of evening 
sunlight help businesses save money on energy costs from not 
having to turn the lights on early, much less athletic?
    Mr. Karen. Well golf, we do not light the golf courses, so 
it would not be an energy savings for us. It is mostly about 
health and economic.
    Senator Markey. Health and economic, yes.
    And Mr. Yates, what does your research say about the 
benefits of ending the switch twice a year between Daylight 
Savings Time and Standard Time?
    Mr. Yates. Thank you, Senator, for the question. And I 
appreciate the nickname that you got. It is better than the 
nickname that the Comedy Central, the ``Daily Show'' called me 
the Time Wizard, and so I was--I was not sure if I should be 
offended or not
    Senator Markey. I am going to keep Sun King for myself. OK.
    Mr. Yates. Sun King is way better than Time Wizard, right.
    Senator Markey. Yes. And I like that title.
    Mr. Yates. Yes.
    Senator Markey. Yes.
    Mr. Yates. The detrimental effects of switching the clocks 
are super clear, and it seems like we have got pretty much 
unanimous agreement about that at this point. And what is 
delightful about it from my perspective is to hear you tell 
these stories, because you clearly have been a pioneer on this 
for a long time. And what is great is that this has never been 
at all a partisan issue. It has always been a completely 
bipartisan issue, when you look at the 24 states that have 
enacted something to it.
    Senator Markey. Can I say this as well? And opposition, it 
has always been bipartisan.
    Mr. Yates. Yes.
    Senator Markey. Because I had to negotiate with 
Representative Goodling, who is a Republican, you know, on the 
other side. But I had Republican, Carlos Morehead from Orange 
County was on my side, a Republican, and I had to negotiate 
with Larry Craig, who was the Senator from Idaho. He was the 
Senator before Jim Risch. So I had to negotiate with him on 
this. He was in opposition. But I had Fred Upton from Michigan, 
who was a supporter.
    So it has always been bipartisan on either side, you know, 
these coalitions that are there. And so that is the only way, 
from my perspective, that we are going to be able to work here 
as well in order to make some progress. And you know, it is--we 
just have to make Daylight Saving Time permanent, in my 
opinion, one way or the other, or at least get more, we need 
more sunshine, you know.
    And the reason, Mr. Chairman, it is from my perspective, it 
just--when the sun is out, it just increases the likelihood 
that the corners of people's mouths are going to be turned 
upwards. They are going to be happier when the sun is out. They 
are going to be feeling good. It is why so many people move to 
Texas, by the way, and not Florida.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Markey. It is not the politics; it is the sun they 
are chasing, right. So this is, from my perspective, a 
universal feeling, right, that when that sun is out and they 
can go out and enjoy it in the evening, it just makes all the 
difference in the world to them, and so we have to find a way 
here of resolving these issues to be able to deal with it.
    And I know there are disagreements on it, including, I know 
Karin Johnson is here from Massachusetts, and she is on the 
other side of the issue, which I respect. So it is just a big 
conversation that I hope we can resolve, because I just think 
it is for the benefit of people's happiness just to have that 
sunshine available. They can do a lot more in the sunshine in 
the evening than they can do early in the morning.
    And I thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the opportunity here.
    The Chairman. Thank you, Your Majesty.
    [Laughter.]
    The Chairman. And I will say, I did not know that my friend 
from Massachusetts had acquired the nickname the ``Sun King,'' 
which, the previous Sun King, of course, was King Louis XIV in 
France, whose best-known statement was ``L'etat, c'est moi'' I 
am the state, which may explain the differences between Senator 
Markey and myself on the size of government.
    Senator Markey. Well, I think President Trump is quoting 
King Louis very favorably.
    The Chairman. That is a fair point, since he did, in fact, 
tweet out ``L'etat, c'est moi.''
    Senator Markey. I think I did--I saw, I did not know he 
knew French, but I think he, in fact did--in fact, quote 
favorably not even--as you are. You are doing it with a very 
high risible coefficient, I mean, you are doing it jokingly. I 
think he was serious.
    The Chairman. Well----
    Senator Markey. Although, I will say this: I think you gave 
the President good advice two days ago acting. We will call it 
more like King Louis then.
    The Chairman. Well, I will note, as you know, I lived three 
years in Massachusetts, and I remember my third year of law 
school, where it snowed in the month of May, which I thought 
was positively immoral. And as you noted, the sun is a very 
good recruiter for the Great State of Texas. I am fond of 
saying, you cannot shovel sunshine, and that is a gift.
    Senator Markey. And I will give you some news that the 
winters in Boston are now 6 degrees warmer than they were in 
1970 because of climate change. So our ponds do not even freeze 
over in the winter anymore, much less snowing in May. So maybe 
kids from Texas going to law school up in Boston now enjoy May 
a lot more than they used to.
    The Chairman. All right. So I am going to ask a couple more 
questions, then we are going to wrap up the hearing.
    Mr. Karen, give us your best argument why recreational 
daylight is so important to your members?
    Mr. Karen. My members deliver joy for a living, and they 
happen to run businesses making that happen. So to them, if 
they saw more people in the afternoons and the evenings 
enjoying the outdoors with each other, it is why they get out 
of bed. It is why they do this. So they will have better lives 
as business owners. They will be able to pay the bills a little 
bit better and reinvest in their businesses if they had a 
little bit of a boost more in the afternoons and evenings.
    The Chairman. That was helpful. Although I will say, on the 
delivering joy, I could not help but think of, I think, the 
best comedy riff ever done, which is Robin Williams' on golf.
    Senator Markey. I have seen it.
    The Chairman. Which I will note is profane but screamingly 
funny. And he points out that golf was invented by the Scots 
and how infuriating it can be at times. And he said: ``I know, 
we will call it a stroke, because when you miss, you want to 
have a stroke.''
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Karen. Very good.
    The Chairman. All right, Dr. Johnson.
    [Laughter.]
    The Chairman. Would shifting time zones slightly address 
the concerns for communities that are in dark zone areas if the 
clock were permanently set on Daylight Saving Time, does 
shifting the time zones make a difference?
    Dr. Johnson. So we would encourage all states to be within 
their sort of time zone that is closest to the sun being 
overhead at noon. So, for example, like Indiana being more in 
the Central Time Zone versus the Eastern Time Zone would help 
get them more aligned with the sun. But it should be Standard 
Time. So there has been a push on the East Coast to have us in 
Atlantic Standard Time. That is the time set for Bermuda. That 
is not the time set for any of the East Coast.
    So you know, we want permanent standard Eastern Time, not 
permanent standard Atlantic Time, which is the exact same as 
permanent Daylight Saving Time.
    The Chairman. Dr. Harkey, what has your research found as 
it relates to traffic accidents immediately following a time 
change?
    Dr. Harkey. So that is what we were looking at as part of 
our research, was in that 5-week period before and the 5-week 
period after the time change. And when we fall back in the 
fall, vehicle occupant deaths go down about 7 percent. And when 
they spring forward, vehicle occupants' deaths go up about 12 
percent, and the exact opposite with pedestrian fatalities.
    So when we fall back pedestrian fatalities rise 13 percent, 
and then when we spring forward, they go down 24 percent. And 
so the net effect is almost zero between pedestrian and 
vehicle--pedestrian, bicyclists, and vehicle deaths. And so 
that is why our research really does not come out strongly in 
favor of either one.
    But what is clear is that darkness matters. And that is 
where we do about a quarter of our travel at night, and yet 
that is when 50 percent of the vehicle occupant deaths occur, 
and when more than three-quarters of the pedestrian deaths 
occur. So regardless of what policy decision is made with 
regards to the time and where we set the clocks, we have to 
make sure we are continuing to improve our infrastructure, 
continuing to improve vehicle technology that will address the 
safety risk that we have at night in dark conditions.
    The Chairman. So you just said darkness mattered, and it 
occurred to me, an alternative title for this hearing, instead 
of ``If We Could Turn Back Time,'' might have been ``Hello 
Darkness, My Old Friend.''
    All right. Look, this hearing was important, and I wanted 
to hear all this testimony, because I personally struggle with 
the two choices here. Because it is a question of: what do you 
care about more sunshine, and joy, and fun, and money, or 
health, mental health, physical health? And the honest answer 
for most people is, ``Gosh, I care about all that stuff. So 
that is not an easy tradeoff.
    The alternative that has been suggested is, let each state 
make that decision. And I guess it has been pointed out that 
Senator Scott's Bill does a version of that by picking Daylight 
Saving Time but then letting states opt out.
    Let me ask a practical matter: Does that work? 
Functionally, how confusing is that, having everyone pick 
different times, how does that work for commerce, for life, for 
knowing what the hell time it is? Let me have each of you 
answer that.
    Mr. Yates. Senator Cruz, thank you for that. The one little 
part of Senator Markey's history about when they changed the 
time in November was that the proposal was to move Daylight 
Saving Time to finish at the end of November. And the airlines 
came back and said: No, no, no, no. We do not want a time 
change in the middle of our busiest travel season. And so they 
were going to scrap that, and then they got the extra week to 
put it in.
    So time is always complicated. And the system that we have, 
the system that we--excuse me--the system that we have is 
complicated, but it is complicated because it is a human 
creation, right. The sun moving around the Earth does not 
actually have anything to do with time. Time is the agreement 
that we have about what 10 o'clock means, because we do not 
want to go around saying, you know, the Committee hearing will 
start when the sun is two hands above the horizon.
    We need this system. But the system has this bug right now, 
and the bug is Daylight Saving Time. It is the switching of the 
clocks. And so if we have a little bit of time, a couple of 
years, so that the individual states can address all of these 
complexities and make those decisions, then we will be able to 
get rid of this bug permanently. It is something that we have 
been stuck with since World War I, and this is our opportunity 
to finally fix it.
    The Chairman. Mr. Karen.
    Mr. Karen. You know, I am not going to say that government 
solutions cause more confusion, but you can imagine in this 
scenario that Florida is on Daylight Saving Time, Georgia right 
above it on Standard, South Carolina is on daylight, et cetera, 
in the same spot, because maybe special interests of all kinds 
made that happen.
    So I already have problems remembering which state is in 
which time zone as it is right now, sometimes the Border 
States, and add to that: Oh, they are in Central and they are 
on Standard. Oh, what time is it there exactly? So I can see 
where this causes more confusion. I wish I had a better answer 
for you on that one, but could we adjust and figure that out 
quickly? I do not know. I see it as problematic, but it may be 
the only way to thread the needle.
    The Chairman. Dr. Johnson.
    Dr. Johnson. Yes, I think, you know, the economy, the 
transportation industry, certainly needs consistency and 
alignment. So we want to make this change once. We do not want 
to pick something that is tried and then failed twice before, 
such that we spend lots of money fixing it again in a few 
years. You mentioned the economy, which again, you know, is so 
important, and you know, the majority of our workers start work 
early. The average work start time is 7:55 in the morning. So 
we would be forcing people all winter to go to work in the 
dark, really affecting their productivity and economics.
    And so while certain businesses are going to have different 
benefits of the sun, I actually do want to give sun to people 
when they use it, when they use it to get up, when they use it 
to be healthy, when they use it to be more productive and 
efficient at work and to improve the overall economy, not just 
niche businesses like the golf industry that have shown they 
can be very successful in Standard Time, like in Arizona.
    The Chairman. Dr. Harkey.
    Dr. Harkey. Strictly speaking from a road safety 
perspective, I am not sure it would make any difference if 
states had the right to select the time, because it is, again, 
about the amount of light, the amount of ambient light during 
the times of travel. And so I do not think it would have an 
impact, personally. It would probably confuse me. But that is 
if we had that problem.
    I will give you a quick anecdote. Almost 40 years ago, we 
were collecting speed data in New Mexico and Arizona as part of 
a research study. Had no idea at that time, being right out of 
school, had not really paid attention that Arizona did not 
bother to go to Daylight Saving Time, so that all of our 
equipment was an hour off when we went to pick up all the speed 
data, and we had to adjust it after the fact.
    And so I think you would have those kinds of things, right, 
that could work their way into the system, unintentional 
mistakes, if we were to get into a system where we had a lot of 
different time zones going on.
    The Chairman. Well, I, for one, am thankful for these magic 
devices that we carry, that when I land on a plane, I look down 
to figure out what time it is, because I am on a lot of planes 
and it changes.
    I want to thank each of the four of you. This has been very 
helpful testimony, and you all have different perspectives, so 
each of you has added significantly to it.
    Senators will have until the close of business on Thursday, 
April 17, to submit questions for the record. The witnesses 
will have until the end of the day on Thursday, May 1, to 
respond to those questions.
    And this concludes today's hearing. The Committee stands 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:29 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]

                            A P P E N D I X

      Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                              Scott Yates
    Question. Current law allows states to opt out of daylight saving 
time (DST) without an act of Congress. In fact, both Arizona and Hawaii 
have done so. How do you explain why only two out of 50 states have 
decided to opt out of DST?
    Answer. There are several reasons why most states have not opted 
out of DST:

  1.  Public preference: More daylight in the evening is generally 
        popular, and legislatures tend to reflect the will of the 
        people.

  2.  Business alignment: Many industries prefer later daylight hours, 
        and states often seek to stay in sync with national economic 
        patterns.

  3.  Regional coordination: States worry that being out of step with 
        neighbors could cause confusion and disruption for businesses 
        and travelers.

    Additional context:

   Not all of Arizona has opted out of DST. Navajo Nation 
        lands, which span multiple states and are larger than 10 U.S. 
        states by area, still observe the time changes.

   After the Uniform Time Act of 1966, four states initially 
        chose to stay on Standard Time year-round: Hawaii, Arizona, 
        Michigan, and Indiana. Michigan and Indiana later reversed 
        course, opting to rejoin the spring and fall time changes 
        rather than remain in Standard Time year-round.

    Regulating time zones is more complicated than it might seem. 
Today, several states (such as Indiana, Tennessee, and Nebraska) 
already have internal divisions. Rather than creating new confusion, 
the Sunshine Protection Act would actually reduce complexity by locking 
the Nation into a consistent time system, improving predictability for 
commerce. It would also give those states that are split the 
opportunity to re-unite into one time zone.
    Finally, it is important to note that in 1966, Congress did not 
have the benefit of decades of medical research now available. Studies 
today overwhelmingly show that the biannual clock changes are harmful 
to public health and safety--a fact that strengthens the case for 
Federal action by passing the Sunshine Protection Act while allowing 
states to have the rights, and the time, to choose which time zone they 
want to lock into.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                              Scott Yates
    Public Opinion on Daylight Saving Time: Sunrises and sunsets occur 
at significantly different times within the same time zone. For 
instance, on the darkest day of the year, the sun rose in Seattle at 
7:55 AM, but in San Diego, California, it rose at 6:47 AM, over an hour 
earlier. The differences can be even more pronounced in the Central 
Time Zone, where in Williston, North Dakota, the sun rises at 8:42 AM 
while it rises nearly two hours earlier in Mobile, Alabama.

    Question 1. How does a state's location within a time zone impact 
people's opinions on Daylight Saving Time?
    Answer. A state's location within a time zone likely affects public 
opinion on Daylight Saving Time--but no polling has directly measured 
it.

   Most public opinion research on DST is conducted at the 
        national or state level.

   There is little to no polling that focuses on east-west 
        variations within time zones.

   Sunrise and sunset times can differ by more than an hour 
        within a single time zone, as your examples show, and those 
        differences likely shape people's views--but the data simply 
        doesn't exist yet.

    This geographic complexity is why I recommend a two-year 
implementation period for the Sunshine Protection Act.

   A two-year window would give states, communities, 
        businesses, and school districts time to experience both winter 
        and summer under permanent Daylight Saving Time.

   Local policymakers could adjust school hours, work 
        schedules, or advocate for a time zone shift based on real-
        world experience.

   Congress would ensure a consistent national policy while 
        allowing flexibility for local adaptation--balancing Federal 
        leadership with local realities.

    Question 2. Has there ever been a nationwide poll of public opinion 
on ``locking the clocks''? What do available polling data tell us about 
people's opinions on whether we should switch to permanent standard 
time, permanent Daylight Saving Time, or keep the seasonal switch?
    Answer. There have been many polls about ``locking the clocks,'' 
but the quality varies depending on how the questions were asked.

   Many polls ask vague questions like ``Do you favor DST?'' 
        without clarifying whether that means permanent DST, permanent 
        Standard Time, or keeping the seasonal clock changes.

   The clearest national poll in recent years asked voters 
        directly about the Sunshine Protection Act:

     Strongly support: 45 percent

     Somewhat support: 23 percent

     Somewhat oppose: 7 percent

     Strongly oppose: 7 percent

     Don't know/No opinion: 18 percent

    State legislative action also reflects strong support for locking 
the clocks into permanent Daylight Saving Time:

   Since 1966, two states (Indiana and Michigan) initially 
        opted for permanent Standard Time but later switched to 
        seasonal DST.

   Only two states (Hawaii and most of Arizona) have remained 
        on permanent Standard Time.

   24 states have passed legislation to adopt permanent DST if 
        authorized by Congress, with many others considering similar 
        measures.

    Public opinion on keeping the seasonal clock change is relatively 
small--and outweighed by clear evidence of public harm:

   Polls suggest about 10 percent of people favor continuing 
        the clock changes.

   However, as with other public safety issues--for example, 
        the Federal ban on metal-tipped lawn darts after they caused 
        three fatalities--action is justified when lives are at stake.

   The biannual clock change is linked to:

     At least 20 additional traffic deaths each year.

     Significant increases in heart attacks, strokes, and 
            other medical emergencies, contributing to hundreds or even 
            thousands of premature deaths annually.

    The best way forward is to act now to end the clock-changing, while 
allowing states flexibility to adjust.

   A two-year implementation period would allow states, 
        businesses, and schools to experience both winter and summer 
        under both simulated time structures.

   States would have the ability to adapt: adjusting school 
        start times, business hours, petitioning for a time zone change 
        if appropriate, or even holding an election to let voters 
        decide directly.

   This approach fixes the critical public safety problem 
        immediately while respecting local preferences for how best to 
        align daily schedules.

    If Congress could act decisively to ban lawn darts after three 
deaths, surely it can act now to end a practice that costs hundreds of 
lives each year.
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    Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Ben Ray Lujan to 
                              Scott Yates
    Question 1. If your goal is to end clock changes and the health 
data supports permanent standard time, why not move everyone to 
standard time and allow Daylight Standard Time if states want, rather 
than the other way around?
    Answer. I would certainly support this.
    The problem is that while I am the founder of the wildly popular 
#LockTheClock movement, the reality is that I am just a lone citizen 
who blogs and testifies about this issue as a hobby.
    In other words, my support is not nearly enough.
    What we need is the support of health experts and business leaders. 
Advocating for permanent Standard Time as the default position will 
garner opposition from wide swaths of business groups, including 
recreation, retail, outdoor activities, etc. That will, in turn, lead 
to opposition from health groups because advocating for Standard Time, 
in reality, is advocating for keeping the status quo, which includes 
the deadly clock changing.
    As Sen. Lujan knows all too well, we should do everything we can to 
reduce the incidence of strokes in the U.S. While changes to diet, 
exercise, medication and more are important, they are also lifestyle 
changes that are difficult to legislate.
    The clock-changing, however, can be fixed and research published in 
the medical journal Circulation (V. 118, N. 3) is clear that the clock 
changing causes a significant spike in the number of strokes that 
require hospitalization.
    Interestingly, most other negative health outcomes associated with 
clock changing apply only in the spring change. Heart attacks, for 
instance, go up after alarm clocks jolt people awake an hour earlier 
than their bodies expect. Traffic accidents spike. Hospital errors 
jump. In the fall when people get an extra hour of sleep, there is no 
spike in heart attacks and we don't see the other negative health 
impacts.
    But strokes requiring hospitalization go up after the spring 
forward change, and also after the fall-back change. Clock changing in 
general causes more strokes.
    So from a health perspective, the most important thing to do is to 
take action to Lock the Clock, and the most effective way to do that is 
to enact the Sunshine Protection Act, and do so with a two-year 
implementation so that individual states can have the science-based 
discussion about which time is most appropriate for that state given 
its physical location.
    As someone who understands firsthand the impact of stroke, your 
leadership on this issue could help save countless lives across 
America.
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Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to 
                              Scott Yates
    Question. How does a state's location within a time zone impact 
their opinions on Daylight Saving Time?
    Answer. I haven't seen any polling specifically on this issue.
    The question, however, gets to a crucial part of what must be 
considered by the U.S. Senate when looking at a national policy. 
Typically a national policy applies to all citizens equally, but this 
one is quite different.
    Part of the reason there isn't polling is that typically pollsters 
ask questions of a national or perhaps a state sample group. There are 
no commonly used geographic areas that would make it possible to even 
conduct such polling.
    That is why my suggestion to Congress is to modify the Sunshine 
Protection Act to have a two-year implementation phase.
    Right now this debate is theoretical, and because it's been debated 
for so long, local policy makers and indeed the public have not taken 
action because they haven't had any reason to think that a healthy 
change is coming to the way we change the clocks twice per year.
    If Congress were to enact the Sunshine Protection Act--and have it 
implemented after the ``spring forward'' change in March two years 
after enactment--then every state legislature, every school board, 
every business would have the opportunity to live through a winter and 
a summer estimating where the sun is in relation to the clock. State 
legislatures, if they like, could even have statewide elections to 
determine if a state will lock the clock in permanent Daylight Time or 
Standard Time.
    In that way, the U.S. Congress would be properly fulfilling its 
role in regulating interstate commerce and the regulation of time 
zones, but local communities would be able to adopt either the 
appropriate time for their state, or adjust their schedules in ways 
that reflect their local realities.
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   Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                               Jay Karen
    Question. On the question of what the impact would be if adjoining 
states were to elect to have different daylight time designations. I am 
pleased to offer a brief reply.
    Answer. The issue of what ``clock'' a state may be on in the future 
would be a consideration when people make plans to spend a morning, 
afternoon, day or road trip to play golf. If golfers, especially living 
near state borders where time changes (such as time zones and Daylight 
or Standard time) could impact plans, do not pay close attention or 
miscalculate the sunrise and sun setting times, they could experience 
frustration.
    With adjoining states having different ``clocks,'' tee time booking 
systems and tour operator systems will have to be specifically 
programmed to ensure daylight considerations are clear and understood 
at the time of booking. It's easy to see people making this mistake: a 
2:00 pm tee time in one state allows them to finish before dark, 
whereas a 2:00 pm tee time in a neighboring state (on the same golf 
road trip) might be curtailed by darkness.
    To be honest, it's hard to even imagine the cascading effect of 
having states on different time zones and different ``clocks'' for the 
sun. While it's easy to posit this issue as a ``states' rights'' one, 
it's not hard to see how confusion may be sowed by it. I'm sure modern 
technology in our smartphones will help us get acclimated to such 
changes, but it will be interesting to see (if it happens).
    In the golf industry, we simply know that later-afternoon sunlight 
is an important driver for increased play, which leads to better health 
and a better economy. NGCOA would be amenable to all states recognizing 
Daylight Saving Time year-round, but as we see in Texas and New Mexico, 
whose communities border Arizona, golfers can adapt to the different 
daylight periods.
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      Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                           Dr. Karin Johnson
    Question. Current law allows states to opt out of daylight saving 
time (DST) without an act of Congress. In fact, both Arizona and Hawaii 
have done so. How do you explain why only two out of 50 states have 
decided to opt out of DST?
    Answer. There is strong economic, communication (radio/cell phone), 
and transportation interest for states to remain in alignment with 
neighboring states and/or to be in alignment with certain states, such 
as a desire to align with Wall Street. Because any state can establish 
permanent Standard Time, there has been more hesitation to pass laws 
for standard time on a state level often wanting to defer to the 
Federal government to mandate a coordinated change so as not to cause 
major misalignment between states.
    Additionally for many years there has been a large degree of 
misinformation spread stating that permanent daylight saving time would 
lead to improvements in health, mood and safety despite the data to the 
contrary. Cited data relies on the presumption that the only harms of 
daylight saving time are the twice yearly switches and disregards any 
harm from permanent daylight saving time itself. Rather the long-term 
effects of living on Daylight Saving Time increases the risk of chronic 
diseases and worsens safety and productivity to a greater degree than 
the short-term harms after the switching of clocks in the spring and 
fall.
    Over the last 4 years, however, especially since the medical and 
scientific position statements supporting permanent standard time and 
increasing recognition of the problems with permanent daylight saving 
time, there has been growing political and public interest in adopting 
permanent standard time. This year there are more states with bills 
asking for permanent standard time than for permanent daylight saving 
time. On the other hand, over the last several years, there has been a 
rapid decline in the number of states passing bills requesting 
permanent daylight saving time. This aligns with what is being seen 
with an increasing number of national polls favoring permanent standard 
time. The most recent National gallop survey was strongly in favor of 
permanent standard time (48 percent) compared to permanent daylight 
saving time (24 percent).
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                           Dr. Karin Johnson
    Health Impacts of Daylight Saving Time: In your testimony, you cite 
several studies that have found that Daylight Saving Time is associated 
with worse sleep quality because later sunrises disrupt our natural 
circadian rhythm.

    Question 1. How are the health impacts of switching to Daylight 
Saving Time different from jet lag caused by traveling between time 
zones?
    Answer. When we travel from one time zone to another, the new 
timing of sunrise and sunset in our new location resets our circadian 
rhythms to that new time zone. This natural reset of our internal 
clocks typically occurs at the rate of 1 to 1.5 days per 1 hour of time 
zone change (that is, we typically realign to our new environment 
within a day for shorter distances and within a week for longer trips).
    Until our bodies adjust to the new local sun time, we experience a 
short-term circadian misalignment known as jet lag, the signs of which 
include fatigue, sleepiness, sleep disturbances, difficulty 
concentrating, digestive issues (such as upset stomach, diarrhea, and 
constipation), irritability, mood disturbances, headaches, and 
dizziness.
    If you are a very frequent traveler, then the constant disruption 
to circadian rhythms can be similar to the risks of shift-work 
disorder. These include increased rates of cancer, heart disease, high 
blood pressure, obesity, diabetes, irritable bowel syndrome, 
depression, and other metabolic and mood disorders. These are also 
similar to what is seen with the effect of setting clock time later 
under Daylight Saving Time.
    When we change clocks to Daylight Saving Time, we do not change our 
environmental light timing. Our circadian rhythms and bodily hormones 
remain more aligned to the sun's time, and this creates a long-term 
misalignment between our internal rhythms that are set by the sun and 
our social schedules that are set by the clock. This misalignment 
persists throughout the entire Daylight Saving Time period. Factors 
that increase the negative impacts of Daylight Saving Time include:

  1.  Living on the western end of a time zone, because this is where 
        misalignment of clock time and sun time is largest.

  2.  Being a teenager or night owl, because their rhythms are 
        naturally already delayed, compared to other population groups.

  3.  Having a start time before 8:30 AM, because their earlier work or 
        school schedules necessitate earlier bedtimes to get sufficient 
        sleep before their morning alarms sound, and these earlier 
        bedtimes are often thwarted by the extended hours of evening 
        daylight.

  4.  Observing Daylight Saving Time in winter, when unavoidably 
        shorter periods of sunlight make for darker mornings, which 
        deprives exposure to natural light at the time of day when our 
        bodies and brains need it most.

    When clock time is moved later by Daylight Saving Time, our body 
rhythms are less able to anticipate our daily actions. In the morning, 
the alarm rings before our body naturally wants to get up. In the 
evening, we are less able to fall asleep at the time you need to go to 
bed to get enough sleep at night. This may lead to chronic sleep loss. 
Even small amounts of sleep loss can significantly increase risks of 
many health problems, including stroke, heart disease, obesity, 
depression, and dementia.
    Circadian disturbances alone can also negatively impact our health, 
even with adequate sleep. An example of this is social jet lag, such as 
when we force ourselves to wake much earlier on weekdays than when we 
naturally wake on weekends. This continual change in daily timing can 
cause digestive and metabolic hormones to be produced out of sync from 
when we are eating, which can lead to poorer processing of food, 
irritated bowel, obesity, and diabetes. Circadian disruptions increase 
wear and tear on our immunity and healing, which can increase risks of 
infections, cancer, and dementia. Alertness, sleep quality, cognition, 
mood, and performance are also strongly affected by circadian 
regularity or irregularity.
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    Question 2. In Washington state, the latest sunrises in the darkest 
parts of the year are near 8 AM, even on standard time. If the sun rise 
is already later than when most people are going to work or school, 
will a switch to Daylight Saving Time make a difference on sleep 
quality?
    Answer. When waking too early (relative to sunrise) is a problem, 
the answer is not to wake even earlier (as Daylight Saving Time 
covertly makes us do).
    Currently, Seattle has 0 days with sunrise later than 8 AM, and a 
latest winter sunrise of 7:58 AM, which would not change under 
permanent Standard Time. Permanent Daylight Saving Time would postpone 
Seattle's sunrise past 8 AM for 112 days (nearly 4 months), and it 
would delay its latest sunrise to 8:58 AM.
    Seattle's longitude is 122 degrees west, and the meridian for 
Pacific Standard Time is 120 degrees west. This close alignment between 
sun time and clock time keeps sunlight balanced across morning and 
evening, for optimal circadian health. When work schedules cause us to 
miss natural sunlight exposure both before and after work, then other 
``zeitgebers'' (time cues) have more influence on setting our rhythms, 
such as artificial light, or when we eat our meals. But these still 
tend to balance around noon.
    Permanent Daylight Saving Time in Washington and elsewhere would 
delay winter sunrises until after most people go indoors to work and 
school for several months at a time. When morning sun light exposure is 
missed, evening sunlight exposure causes our circadian rhythms to 
delay.
    This disruption of our circadian rhythms leads to serious health 
and performance issues.
    While artificial light in the morning can help counteract circadian 
disorders such as depression and chronic fatigue, no artificial light 
can compare in brightness and quality to natural sunlight (even when 
filtered through clouds or precipitation). Furthermore, Daylight Saving 
Time's unseasonable exposure to evening daylight compounds the problems 
caused by lack of morning light. Unless individuals can expose 
themselves to high levels of artificial light (for example, 30 minutes 
of a 10,000-lux light box) each morning, as is prescribed for seasonal 
affective disorder and delayed sleep-phase syndrome, and they can 
purposely avoid artificial light in the evening (which they are more 
likely to be exposed to because they are more likely to stay up later 
during Daylight Saving Time), then their rhythms are likely to become 
delayed and chronically misaligned.
    These negative effects were seen when Russia tried permanent 
Daylight Saving Time between 2011 and 2014, before their nation finally 
switched to permanent Standard Time. 16 percent more adolescents had 
over two hours of social jet lag during permanent Daylight Saving Time 
compared to permanent Standard Time. In other words, one hour of clock 
change led to over two hours of circadian misalignment in susceptible 
individuals.
    Many studies show that having a clock time set one hour later than 
sun time can negatively affect both sleep duration and quality. The 
effect is greater for locations on the western ends of time zones, 
where circadian alignment is already delayed. Circadian rhythms most 
obviously affect sleep, but they also play very important roles in the 
timing of all bodily systems. Thus a delayed rhythm negatively effects 
metabolism, digestion, immunity, healing, hormones, heart health, and 
brain function, to name a few.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                            Dr. David Harkey
    Lighting Conditions and Roadway Safety: In the 1970s, the United 
States piloted year-round Daylight Saving Time. At the time, it was 
widely reported that mothers raised significant concerns about their 
children walking to school in the dark in the winter. They understood 
that visibility was a serious safety concern. Nationwide, over 70 
percent of fatal accidents involving pedestrians occur at night.

    Question 1. How do low light conditions impact roadway safety for 
drivers and pedestrians?
    Answer. Low lighting levels at night reduce a driver's ability to 
detect and recognize pedestrians. It is estimated that the time between 
6:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. accounts for around 22 percent of miles 
traveled,\1\ but in 2023 55 percent of all traffic fatalities and 80 
percent of pedestrian fatalities occurred in the dark or low light 
(including dawn/dusk).
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    \1\ EPA (2020). Population and activity of onroad vehicles in 
MOVES3. EPA-420-R-20-023. https://cfpub.epa.gov/si/
si_public_record_report.cfm?Lab=OTAQ&dirEntryId=328870

    Question 2. No matter what time the sun goes down, what roadway 
improvements can cities and states make to reduce pedestrian 
fatalities?
    Answer. The clearest result from our daylight saving time study was 
that pedestrians and bicyclists are at greater risk in low-light and 
dark conditions, regardless of what time of day those conditions occur. 
Having sidewalks in urban and suburban areas or separated paths or 
paved shoulders in rural areas helps to ensure pedestrians are not 
walking in the vehicle travel lanes.\2\,\3\ The addition of 
lighting along these corridors and at intersections also makes a 
difference.\4\,\5\ At crossing locations, the use of 
rectangular rapid flashing beacons and pedestrian-triggered lighting 
can increase motorist yielding behavior.\6\
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    \2\ Elvik, R., Høye, A., Vaa, T., & Sørensen, M. 
(2009) The Handbook of Road Safety Measures. Emerald Group Publishing, 
Leeds, England.
    \3\ Gan, A., Shen, J., & Rodriguez, A. (2005). Update of Florida 
Crash Reduction Factors and Countermeasures to Improve the Development 
of District Safety Improvement Projects. Florida Department of 
Transportation. https://fdotwww.blob.core.windows.net/sitefinity/docs/
default-source/research/reports/fdot-bd015-04-rpt.pdf
    \4\ Retting, R. A., Ferguson, S. A., & McCartt, A. T. (2003). A 
review of evidence-based traffic engineering measures designed to 
reduce pedestrian-motor vehicle crashes. American Journal of Public 
Health, 93, 1376-1598. https://doi.org/10.2105/AJPH.93.9.1456
    \5\ Wanvik, P. O. (2009). Effects of road lighting: an analysis 
based on Dutch accident statistics 1987-2006. Accident Analysis & 
Prevention, 41, 123-128. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aap
.2008.10.003
    \6\ Hu, W., Van Houten, R., Cicchino, J. B., Engle, J., & Al 
Shomaly, L. (2025). Effects of crosswalk illuminators and rectangular 
rapid flashing beacons on speed reductions and yielding to pedestrians 
at night. Transportation Research Record. https://doi.org/10.1177/
036119812
41310131

    Question 3. What vehicle technologies can help protect pedestrians 
when it is difficult for drivers to see?
    Answer. There are two vehicle technologies that are most important 
to help protect pedestrians. First, headlights--the original collision 
avoidance technology. We have been rating headlights for nearly a 
decade, and automakers have subsequently been improving their 
headlights. We have been able to show that vehicles with headlights 
with good ratings in our tests can reduce nighttime pedestrian crashes 
by 23 percent compared to vehicles with poor-rated headlights.\7\ 
Second, automatic emergency braking with pedestrian detection. We have 
shown that early systems reduced pedestrian crash risk by 32 percent 
during the day but did not reduce pedestrian crashes in the dark.\8\ 
However, automakers are now improving these systems to work better at 
night and score higher in IIHS's testing program.
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    \7\ Brumbelow, M. L. (2022). Light where it matters: IIHS headlight 
ratings are correlated with nighttime crash rates. Journal of Safety 
Research, 83, 379-387. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsr.
2022.09.013
    \8\ Cicchino, J. B. (2022). Effects of automatic emergency braking 
systems on pedestrian crash risk. Accident Analysis & Prevention, 172, 
Article 106686. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.aap
.2022.106686

    Combatting Drowsy Driving: Sleep experts believe that Daylight 
Saving Time impacts people's sleep quality, which could lead to more 
people driving while they are tired. Driving while sleep-deprived has 
similar risks to driving while drunk. The AAA Foundation for Traffic 
Safety estimates there are over three hundred thousand crashes each 
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year caused by drowsy driving.

    Question 1. How can the vehicle safety requirements in the 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law mitigate drowsy driving? Which 
technologies should USDOT be prioritizing?
    Answer. There are several companies working on technologies to 
monitor drivers, assess their level of distraction or lack of 
engagement in the driving task, and potentially detect drowsy driving. 
There are other groups working on technologies to detect alcohol 
impairment prior to starting the vehicle and during the trip. All of 
these technologies need to be pursued, given our state of road safety. 
Remember, alcohol impairment, distraction, and drowsy driving 
contribute to more than a third of our fatalities. We need to invest in 
multiple technologies to find those that are most effective and 
feasible. We also need NHTSA to issue the rule to mandate advanced 
impaired driving technology as required of them under the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Law.

    Question 2. What can state and local governments do now to improve 
their infrastructure to address drowsy driving?
    Answer. Drowsy driving often results in lane departure crashes, 
either off the right side of the road into a fixed object, into an 
adjacent same-direction lane sideswipe collision, or across a 
centerline in a head-on collision. The use of rumble strips both on the 
edge of the roadway and the centerline can be an effective way to alert 
drowsy drivers.\9\ On approaches to intersections, the use of 
transverse rumble strips or stripes, advance warning flashers, and 
strobe lights in red signal faces can serve a similar 
purpose.\2\,\10\-\11\
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    \9\ Torbic, D. J., Hutton, J. M., Bokenkroger, C. D., Bauer, K. M., 
Harwood, D. W., Gilmore, D. K., Dunn, D. K., Ronchetto, J. J., Donnell, 
E. T., Sommer III, H. J., Garvey, P., Persaud, B., & Lyon, C. (2009). 
NCHRP Report 641: Guidance for the Design and Application of Shoulder 
and Centerline Rumble Strips, Transportation Research Board, Washington 
D.C. https://cmfclearinghouse.fhwa.dot.gov/studydocs/nchrp_rpt_641-
GuidanceRumbleStrips.pdf
    \10\ Park, Y.-J. & Saccomanno, F.F. (2005). Collision frequency 
analysis using tree-based stratification. Transportation Research 
Record, 1908, 121-129. https://doi.org/10.1177/036119810
51908001
    \11\ Srinivasan, R., Carter, D., Persaud, B., Eccles, K., & Lyon, 
C. (2008). Safety evaluation of flashing beacons at stop-controlled 
intersections. Transportation Research Record, 2056, 77-86. https://
doi.org/10.3141/2056-10

    Safe System Approach to Roadway Safety: Roadway fatality rates in 
the United States are 15 percent higher than they were a decade ago. In 
Washington state, 810 people died in traffic in 2023, a 10 percent 
increase from the year before and the largest number of traffic deaths 
in the state since 1990.
    Currently, three Federal agencies, the Federal Highway 
Administration, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and 
the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, work with State 
Departments of Transportation, state law enforcement agencies, and 
state safety agencies to improve highway safety. Often, these agencies 
are siloed and lack meaningful communication and coordination.
    We have learned from other industries, including the aviation 
industry, that safety is the responsibility of everyone involved in a 
system. In the aviation industry, we know that looking at safety 
holistically and creating redundancy is essential to preventing 
mistakes that could lead to fatal accidents.

    Question 1. How do we create redundancy in safety measures to 
prevent fatalities on our roads?
    Answer. Redundancy is a key principle in the safe system approach. 
Each of the Federal and state agencies mentioned is responsible for 
part of the system, but no agency has decision-making authority for all 
of the surface transportation system. At a minimum, there must be 
deliberate and better communication between the agencies at the 
executive level, but perhaps more critically at the staff level. The 
staff are ultimately the ones who know what interventions work to 
address specific problems on our roadways and how they can provide that 
level of redundancy.

    Question 2. What safety features can be incorporated into vehicle 
and road design to ensure that one human error does not lead to a 
deadly accident?
    Answer. That is the question that should be asked for every 
challenge we face--how do we prevent a mistake by a driver, pedestrian, 
bicyclist, or motorcyclist from becoming a fatality? This is another 
principle of the safe system approach--we are human, we will make 
mistakes, but no one should die because of a mistake.
    I will give you one example of vehicle and infrastructure 
interventions to address a particular type of crash--running off the 
edge of the roadway and striking a rigid object. We need good edge 
lines, may use rumble strips or rumble stripes, include a paved 
shoulder for recovery area, and may have a guardrail to prevent 
striking that object.\9\,\12\-\13\ In the 
vehicle, we now have technology to provide lane departure warnings and 
lane-keeping systems. These interventions support each other to prevent 
that run-off-road collision.\14\
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    \12\ Dissanayake, S. & Galgamuwa, U. (2017). Estimating Crash 
Modification Factors for Lane Departure Countermeasures in Kansas. 
Center for Transportation Research and Education, Iowa State 
University, Ames, IA. https://www.intrans.iastate.edu/wp-content/
uploads/2018/07/Kansas_lane-departure_CMFs_w_cvr.pdf
    \13\ Park, J., Abdel-Aty, M. & Lee, J. (2016). Evaluation of the 
Safety Effectiveness of Installing Roadside Barriers with Different 
Driver, Vehicle, Weather, and Time of Day Conditions. Proceedings of 
the 95th Annual Meeting of the Transportation Research Board, Paper No. 
16-0678, Washington, D.C.
    \14\ Cicchino, J. B. (2018). Effects of lane departure warning on 
police-reported crash rates. Journal of Safety Research, 66, 61-70. 
https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jsr.2018.05.006

    Question 3. How does a safe system approach protect all the people 
who use our roads, including pedestrians and people riding on transit?
    Answer. Another principle of the safe system approach is to ensure 
safety for ALL road users. We have clearly failed the most vulnerable 
on our roadways--pedestrians, bicyclists, and motorcyclists--whose 
deaths have increased 49 percent in the 10-year period from 2014 to 
2023. From planning to design to operations, we have to consider the 
context of the environment, including factors like who the road users 
are, what types of vehicles use the road, and if the environment is 
rural or urban. That context can then be used to build a safety matrix 
of feasible infrastructure, vehicle, speed, behavior, and post-crash 
care interventions that will protect all road users.
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Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Lisa Blunt Rochester to 
                            Dr. David Harkey
    Question 1. What can states and local governments do now to improve 
their infrastructure to address drowsy driving?
    Answer. Drowsy driving often results in lane departure crashes, 
either off the right side of the road into a fixed object, into an 
adjacent same-direction lane sideswipe collision, or across a 
centerline in a head-on collision. The use of rumble strips both on the 
edge of the roadway and the centerline can be an effective way to alert 
drowsy drivers.\9\ On approaches to intersections, the use of 
transverse rumble strips or stripes, advance warning flashers, and 
strobe lights in red signal faces can serve a similar 
purpose.\2\,\10\-\11\

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