[Senate Hearing 119-131]
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                   PERSPECTIVES ON REAUTHORIZATION OF THE 
                        U.S. GRAIN STANDARDS ACT

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           COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, NUTRITION, AND FORESTRY


                    JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas, Chairman
                    
MITCH McCONNELL, Kentucky            AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota
JOHN HOEVEN, North Dakota            MICHAEL F. BENNET, Colorado
JONI ERNST, Iowa                     TINA SMITH, Minnesota
CINDY HYDE-SMITH, Mississippi        RICHARD J. DURBIN, Illinois
ROGER MARSHALL, Kansas               CORY BOOKER, New Jersey
TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama            BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico
JAMES C. JUSTICE, West Virginia      RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia
CHARLES GRASSLEY, Iowa               PETER WELCH, Vermont
JOHN THUNE, South Dakota             JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania
DEB FISCHER, Nebraska                ADAM SCHIFF, California
JERRY MORAN, Kansas                  ELISSA SLOTKIN, Michigan

               Fitzhugh Elder IV, Majority Staff Director
                    Jessica L. Williams, Chief Clerk
                Lauren Santabar, Minority Staff Director
                 Chu-Yuan Hwang, Minority Chief Counsel
                            
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                         Tuesday, July 29, 2025

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Hearing:

Perspectives on Reauthorization of The U.S. Grain Standards Act..     1

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                    STATEMENTS PRESENTED BY SENATORS

Boozman, Hon. John, U.S. Senator from the State of Arkansas......     1
Klobuchar, Hon. Amy, U.S. Senator from the State of Minnesota....     2

                               WITNESSES

Friant, Nicholas, Chairman, Grain Grades and Weights Committee, 
  National Grain and Feed Association, Chanhassen, MN............     4
Mikesh, Kia, President, American Association of Grain Inspection 
  and Weighing Agencies, Fargo, ND...............................     6
Wipf, Brandon, Board of Directors Member, American Soybean 
  Association, Huron, SD.........................................     7
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                                APPENDIX

Prepared Statement:
    Friant, Nicholas.............................................    22
    Mikesh, Kia..................................................    33
    Wipf, Brandon................................................    37

Question and Answer:
Friant, Nicholas:
    Written response to questions from Hon. Amy Klobuchar........    42
    Written response to questions from Hon. Adam Schiff..........    42
Mikesh, Kia:
    Written response to questions from Hon. Amy Klobuchar........    44
    Written response to questions from Hon. Charles Grassley.....    45
    Written response to questions from Hon. Adam Schiff..........    46
Wipf, Brandon:
    Written response to questions from Hon. Amy Klobuchar........    49
    Written response to questions from Hon. Charles Grassley.....    49

 
    PERSPECTIVES ON REAUTHORIZATION OF THE U.S. GRAIN STANDARDS ACT

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                         TUESDAY, JULY 29, 2025

                                        U.S. Senate
          Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 3 p.m., in Room 
328A, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. John Boozman, 
Chairman of the Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Boozman [presiding], Hoeven, Ernst, Hyde-
Smith, Marshall, Thune, Klobuchar, Bennet, Smith, Warnock and 
Fetterman.

   STATEMENT OF HON. BOOZMAN, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF 
 ARKANSAS, CHAIRMAN, U.S. COMMITTEE ON AGRICULTURE, NUTRITION, 
                          AND FORESTRY

    Chairman Boozman. Good afternoon. It is my privilege to 
call the hearing to order. Senator Klobuchar will be with us in 
just a few minutes.
    The only thing we have got to do around here is vote, and 
we have got a lot of people down there doing the second vote 
right now. I know you all are busy, and there is just so much 
going on right now as we wrap up this week, so I think we are 
going to go ahead and get started.
    It is my privilege to call the hearing to order. I thank my 
colleagues for joining us and the witnesses before us taking 
the time to be here today. Today, we will consider three 
perspectives from expert witnesses regarding the need to 
reauthorize critical components of the U.S. Grain Standards 
Act, which are set to expire at the end of September.
    From farmers to consumers, our Nation's partners, our 
Nation's agricultural system relies on the critical weighing 
and inspection services provided by the U.S. Department of 
Agriculture's Federal Grain Inspection Service and partner 
agencies across the country. These services facilitate the 
timely marketing of high-quality U.S. grain into the global 
marketplace and help set the U.S. apart as a trusted, 
consistent, and reliable source for the world's grain needs.
    Mr. Friant, Mrs. Mikesh, and Mr. Wipf, did I get that 
right?
    Mr. Wipf. Wipf.
    Chairman Boozman. Wipf.
    Mr. Wipf. One syllable.
    Chairman Boozman. Well, you are like me. You are used to 
being called everything.
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Boozman. Wipf. Your testimony today will help 
inform us how we can best proceed. We appreciate the engagement 
for you and your organizations. As I always say, the best ideas 
come from the ground up.
    We will also be working with USDA to ensure our farmers, 
and the grain value chain continue to receive quality service 
and that USDA has the authority and flexibility it needs to 
adequately respond to any issue that may arise.
    I look forward to working with Ranking Member Klobuchar, 
Members of this Committee, and the stakeholders who depend on 
the U.S. grain standards functioning properly to ensure a 
timely, productive, and bipartisan reauthorization of this act. 
Thank you all again for being here today.
    As I said, Senator Klobuchar will be with us in just a 
little bit, and so we will go ahead, though, and proceed with 
our introductions.
    Yes, we were just about to introduce Mr. Friant, and so I 
think you are going to do that for us.

  STATEMENT OF HON. KLOBUCHAR, U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF 
                           MINNESOTA

    Senator Klobuchar. All right. I am going to just say a few 
words. Sorry I am late, but we were doing our caucus event. I 
also am going to have to leave a little early, but I am really 
excited that you are having this hearing, Mr. Chairman, and to 
focus on the grain inspection system, and I would especially 
like to welcome Mr. Nick Friant from Chanhassen, Minnesota, who 
is joined here today by his daughter Clara as well. Where are 
you, Clara? Right back there. Thank you. Good school experience 
there to bring home.
    Before we begin, I would like to underscore how damaging 
USDA's recently announced reorganization could be to American 
agriculture. I truly appreciate that Senator Boozman is having 
a hearing, and we are going to hear from the Deputy Secretary 
tomorrow because we had little analysis, zero consultation. 
Amid all of this, a hearing on grain standards may seem 
unusual, but this statute and the services provided by the 
Federal Grain Inspection Service serve as a critical role in 
the U.S. and global marketplace for grains and oilseeds, and we 
have had bipartisan support for working on this issue in the 
past and plan to have that keep happening in the future. Any 
lapse in this authority, which is set to expire at the end of 
September, will only create more uncertainty for farmers.
    Though the Grain Standards Act was first enacted in 1916, 
the current grain inspection system was born out of the 1970s, 
when the credibility of U.S. agricultural exports was seriously 
called into question following a series of scandals in the 
private inspection system. While American farmers were 
producing high-quality grain, private individuals and companies 
tasked with inspection were shortchanging customers abroad 
through intentional mis-grading, inaccurately weighing grain, 
and even bribery that led to several federal indictments and 
convictions.
    Following those events, Congress created the Federal Grain 
Inspection System to return integrity to the U.S. brand. The 
official USDA Certificate of Inspection and Weighing helps 
ensure American farmers are getting a fair price and guarantees 
international customers can trust the products they are buying, 
whether it is from Minnesota with our soybeans or rice from 
Arkansas.
    Since this time, with various periodic updates, the trust 
associated with the certificate has become the gold standard 
for international customers and has made American farmers the 
premier suppliers of high-quality grains and oilseeds. These 
export markets have been a bright spot in our economy in recent 
decades. With all the uncertainty going on with tariffs, it is 
more important than ever that we maintain the integrity of our 
grain inspection system today. I look forward to working with 
you, Mr. Chairman, to do just that as we begin to work together 
in a bipartisan way to reauthorize the legislation.
    Chairman Boozman. Thank you very much. I am going to go 
ahead and introduce Mrs. Kia Mikesh, and Senator Hoeven will be 
along at some point. He is busy working hard to get the ag bill 
so that we can discuss it and hopefully get it voted out this 
week.
    She brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the 
Committee today. A North Dakota native, Mrs. Mikesh is the 
third generation of her family's agriculture inspection and 
testing service. Her upbringing in the grain inspection field 
has continued to make her an asset to several industry 
organizations, including her current roles as President of 
AAGIWA and Vice President of North Dakota Grain Inspection. She 
is also Chair of USDA's FGIS Advisory Committee.
    Mrs. Mikesh's in-depth industry understanding and 
leadership make her a fantastic representative of the grain 
sector as we look to fine-tune FGIS. I am grateful to Mrs. 
Mikesh's willingness to share her testimony today.
    Finally, I am going to go ahead and introduce Mr. Wipf. 
Again, same situation as Senator Thune. He is busy running the 
place, and he is one of our most active Members. Mr. Wipf 
manages a soybean, corn, and wheat farm with his wife and 
parents in South Dakota. I think your wife is with us, isn't 
she? Very good. It is good to have you here. Upon graduation 
from Dordt University in Iowa, he returned to the farm and led 
their family business in expanding to alfalfa.
    Go ahead, John.
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Boozman. I just told him that you are busy running 
the place.
    Senator Klobuchar. Not too busy for a grain inspection 
hearing.
    Senator Thune. Of all the super exciting topics we get to 
deal with here, but it is an important one.
    Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking Member Klobuchar, 
for having today's hearing. I appreciate the chance, as always, 
to serve on this Committee and to advocate on behalf of South 
Dakota's farmers and ranchers. Production agriculture is so 
important to our state. It is our number one industry, and we 
are very blessed to have people represented like Brandon Wipf, 
so it is nice to have you here. I had an opportunity--he was in 
town with the South Dakota Soybean Association and Growers here 
just a few weeks ago. Thanks again for making the trip out to 
D.C. and representing our state's soybean growers.
    I think, as you were starting to say, Mr. Chairman, he 
served on the American Soybean Association board since 2017, 
held an appointment to the CFTC Ag Advisory Council, has spoken 
in support of U.S. agricultural trade on multiple continents, 
and most recently appointed by Governor Larry Rhoden to a 
vacancy in the South Dakota State Senate.
    Again, welcome, Brandon. Good to have you here. I think 
they raise about 1,200 acres of soybeans, and on top of that, 
some corn and wheat, among other things, with his family. I 
think an engineer by training, correct? Making a difference on 
so many levels in South Dakota agriculture and for the future 
of our state and country. Brandon, welcome. Welcome back. We 
look forward to hearing from you and our other panelists today, 
too, on a subject that has great importance and relevance to 
our state and to a lot of states across the country. Thank you.
    Chairman Boozman. Thank you.
    Mr. Friant, you are recognized for your testimony.

   STATEMENT OF NICHOLAS FRIANT, CHAIRMAN, GRAIN GRADES AND 
    WEIGHTS COMMITTEE, NATIONAL GRAIN AND FEED ASSOCIATION, 
                         CHANHASSEN, MN

    Mr. Friant. Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member Klobuchar, and 
Members of the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to 
appear before you today to provide the perspective of the 
National Grain and Feed Association on reauthorizing the U.S. 
Grain Standards Act. I am Nick Friant, the Director of Raw 
Material Quality and Regulatory at Cargill and Chairman of 
NGFA's Grain Grades and Weights Committee.
    Cargill is proud to be a longtime participant in the U.S. 
grain export system and member of NGFA. Since 1896, NGFA has 
represented grain industry members that operate more than 8,000 
facilities. This includes farmer-owned cooperatives and 
multinational grain exporters. Together, we rely on a strong, 
consistent, and transparent official inspection and weighing 
system to deliver confidence and value across the global supply 
chain.
    We urge Congress to reauthorize the U.S. Grain Standards 
Act in a timely and bipartisan manner. Doing so will provide 
certainty to farmers, grain handlers, and international 
customers who depend on the integrity of the U.S. official 
grain inspection system.
    I want to focus on two core issues that are top priorities 
for our industry in this reauthorization. First, investment in 
grain grading technology to speed and improve the inspection 
process; and second, strengthening the emergency waiver 
authority to ensure continuity and flexibility in grain export 
inspection services.
    The U.S. grain inspection system has long set a global 
benchmark for quality and reliability. While the basic 
framework of grain standards has remained stable over time, the 
international grain market has become increasingly competitive. 
Thus, our inspection and grading systems must evolve 
accordingly. Today, FGIS still relies on legacy technologies 
for determining grade factors that ultimately influence a 
commodity's value and fungibility. FGIS must prioritize 
research, development, and validation of modern grain grading 
technologies that improve accuracy, speed, and consistency.
    The agency should actively collaborate with industry and 
academia to identify innovative tools that can reduce human 
error and improve grading objectivity. Furthermore, we believe 
that new technologies can help the agency drive efficiencies, 
reduce costs, and address the staffing challenges it faces, all 
of which ultimately benefit U.S. farmers, agribusinesses, and 
rural economies. We believe the USDA should allocate dedicated 
resources, both staff and funding, to expedite this process.
    NGFA and its members are ready and willing to partner with 
USDA and FGIS to pilot and implement new technologies, provided 
there is a clear pathway for scientific validation, 
standardization, and eventual deployment. Therefore, we have 
worked with our partners at AAGIWA and the American Soybean 
Association on language for the U.S. Grain Standards 
Reauthorization Act that will provide FGIS with the necessary 
tools to focus their resources on this important issue. We 
encourage the Committee to approve the proposal.
    The second central area we encourage Congress to address is 
the need for enhanced flexibility in issuing emergency waivers 
of official inspection requirements during service disruptions. 
The 2015 reauthorization wisely included provisions requiring 
FGIS to act transparently when official services are disrupted 
at export ports.
    Let me be clear. The U.S. industry strongly supports the 
requirement for mandatory official inspection and weighing of 
export grain. It is fundamental to preserving market integrity 
and the credibility of our supply chain. During natural 
disasters or other force majeure events, or in rare instances 
where buyers and sellers mutually agree to waive inspection due 
to service disruptions, the act must allow for pragmatic 
flexibility.
    We recommend that Congress revise the act to clarify the 
definition of emergency and authorize FGIS to issue conditional 
waivers. Further, the waiver would be applied provided that the 
buyer and seller voluntarily agree, the absence of an official 
inspection does not impair the transaction, and such a waiver 
would not undermine the objectives of the act. Establishing a 
transparent and predictable contingency plan for future 
disruptions would provide exporters, importers, and customers 
with the confidence that the flow of U.S. grain can continue 
during unexpected challenges without compromising the overall 
integrity of the system. While I have highlighted two core 
priorities, we are ready to discuss other elements of the act, 
including advisory committee functionality, clarifying the use 
of user fees, and user fee cap reform.
    The U.S. Grain Inspection System is a foundation of our 
country's reputation as a reliable agricultural supplier. 
Timely reauthorization of the U.S. Grain Standards Act, 
combined with the enhancements we have outlined today, will 
ensure that our inspection system continues to meet the high 
expectation of U.S. producers and our global customers.
    As Chairman of the NGFA's Grain Grades and Weights 
Committee, and on behalf of Cargill and the broader industry, I 
would like to express my sincere appreciation for your 
oversight and bipartisan leadership on this issue. We look 
forward to working with you to modernize and strengthen this 
vital act. Thank you for the opportunity to testify today, and 
I will welcome your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Friant can be found on pages 
22-32 in the appendix.]
    Chairman Boozman. Thank you. Mrs. Mikesh.

  STATEMENT OF KIA MIKESH, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF 
       GRAIN INSPECTION AND WEIGHING AGENCIES, FARGO, ND

    Mrs. Mikesh. Good morning. Thank you, Chairman Boozman and 
Ranking Member Klobuchar, for prioritizing this important issue 
and working together to hold this bipartisan hearing. My name 
is Kia Mikesh, and I am privileged to serve as the President of 
the American Association of Grain Inspection and Weighing 
Agencies. I am also the Vice President of North Dakota Grain 
Inspection, the third generation of my family, to help lead the 
business.
    AAGIWA's members are agencies delegated and designated by 
USDA's Federal Grain Inspection Service to weigh and inspect 
the Nation's grain. From the public agencies, such as the State 
Departments of Agriculture of Washington and Alabama, to 
private agencies like my own, AAGIWA's members work alongside 
USDA's FGIS to provide essential support to the agricultural 
economy. The U.S. Grain Standards Act authorizes this unique 
public-private partnership to carry out its uniform standards 
and export grain inspection mandate.
    While FGIS and certain state agencies weigh and inspect 
every load of grain on an export vessel, state and private 
agencies will conduct nine times as many inspections before 
grain ever reaches port. At all hours of the day and night, our 
inspectors are at railyards, grain elevators, and in the lab.
    Yes, we work to maintain trust in U.S. grain contracts, but 
we are also testing for toxins harmful to Americans and our 
livestock herds. The export inspection mandate underlies 
official inspection, but it also allows a uniform voluntary 
inspection system to provide trust in U.S. grain, no matter 
whether it is destined for export or for domestic feed, food, 
or biofuels production. The significance of this system might 
not be obvious, but it helps explain why America remains the 
world's leading agricultural exporter.
    Before the 1976 act, our grain markets were inefficient, 
even chaotic. Markets did not trust U.S. grades and weights, 
which meant that producers and agribusinesses earned lower 
prices abroad than their grain was really worth. Today, thanks 
to official inspection, U.S. grain standards and quality are 
the gold standard of the world. Buyers will pay a premium for 
American grain, giving our farmers and exporters a critical 
competitive edge.
    American standards are the universal reference for grain 
contracts. Even transactions that never touch our country rely 
on them. Our system is so successful that changes to the act 
should always be weighed very cautiously, but the Committee 
should also know that cracks are beginning to show, and 
maintenance is required. Grain inspection has relied on the 
same basic technology for 100 years. As the ag supply chain has 
become more efficient, inspection remains reliant on an ever-
shrinking pool of highly trained human inspectors. It is time- 
and personnel-intensive. The lack of technological advancement 
is creating unnecessary costs to taxpayers, exporters, 
producers, and our own agencies. We have become the bottleneck.
    Without new technology, the consequences could be stark. 
The rigorous standards that were yesterday's privilege will be 
tomorrow's burden, simply because we lack modern tools to 
implement them efficiently. On the other hand, the efficiencies 
reaped by grain inspection technology would reduce costs in the 
food supply chain and the direct costs to taxpayers of 
maintaining the inspection system.
    The barriers to new technology reflect the fact that FGIS 
and official agencies have a near monopoly on the data and 
expertise necessary to develop technology, but we are not R&D 
agencies nor venture capitalists. We need to be able to work 
flexibly with the private sector to find solutions to our 
unique problems and foster the conditions necessary for 
investors to take risks in our field.
    FGIS's dedicated staff have made a heroic effort to advance 
technology, but they need more than resources. They need 
flexibility that reflects the realities of the unusual small 
market for inspection technology. I urge the Committee to 
reauthorize the act with a small, modest toolbox of new 
authorities for FGIS to speed technology development. 
Specifically, Congress should clarify in the statute that FGIS 
may leverage official agencies for R&D, provide other 
transactions authority for inspection technology research and 
development, and establish a modest dedicated funding account 
through user fees and appropriations to support the evaluation 
and deployment of new technology. With these tools, FGIS can 
coordinate flexible partnerships with research institutions, 
technology developers, official agencies, and the grain trade 
so that promising technologies can be developed outside 
government, validated in the real world, and approved quickly 
once they reach FGIS.
    This reauthorization is an opportunity to modernize the 
most trusted inspection system in the world, ensuring it 
remains competitive, cost-effective, and resilient.
    I want to thank the Committee for recognizing the urgency 
of this issue and for your ongoing support of American 
agriculture and the inspection system that underpins it.
    I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mrs. Mikesh can be found on 
pages 33-36 in the appendix.]
    Chairman Boozman. Mr. Wipf.

STATEMENT OF BRANDON WIPF, BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEMBER, AMERICAN 
                 SOYBEAN ASSOCIATION, HURON, SD

    Mr. Wipf. Good afternoon, Chairman Boozman, Ranking Member 
Klobuchar, and distinguished Members of the Senate Committee on 
Agriculture. It is an honor to join you today to testify on 
behalf of the American Soybean Association regarding this 
Committee's review of the U.S. Grain Standards Act. My name is 
Brandon Wipf, and I am a soybean farmer from South Dakota. I 
also have the privilege of serving on the board of directors of 
ASA, which represents over 500,000 U.S. soybean farmers across 
the 30 main soy-producing states.
    Soybeans are the largest ag export in the U.S., and robust 
international trade is a priority for our industry. Market 
access and relationship maintenance would not be possible were 
it not for the trusted and reliable grain inspection and 
marketing efforts undertaken by the Agriculture Marketing 
Services Federal Grain Inspection Service, as authorized by the 
U.S. Grain Standards Act.
    For most soybean farmers, our main interaction with FGIS, 
its designated or delegated agencies, and the U.S. grain 
standards are at our local grain elevator. When I deliver my 
soybeans to the elevator, they are tested, sorted, and 
consolidated into larger lots for eventual shipment. The grain 
standards determine the price a farmer like me receives for 
their soybeans at the elevator, and I know the official grain 
grades provide our international customers with the knowledge 
that the commodities they receive have been assessed for 
quality, purity, moisture, and soundness.
    Recently, the industry conducted a series of conversations 
with stakeholders across the soybean sector, including farmers, 
inspectors, regulators, exporters, and international buyers 
about the value and perception of FGIS and the U.S. grain 
standards. While the full results of these conversations are 
still being evaluated, initial feedback shows that the value of 
the U.S. grain standards and federal inspection is extremely 
high for the soybean export value chain and for our 
international customers.
    Global customers consider FGIS to be the gold standard for 
grain grading. Inspections carry the weight of the U.S. 
Government, creating peace of mind for international customers 
and providing impartiality that private inspections may lack. 
Additionally, the standards are simple, and customers rely on 
that simplicity to mitigate risk. The ability to effectively 
hedge through futures markets is a key differentiator for U.S. 
origin soybeans. The longstanding simplicity and consistency of 
U.S. grain standards have allowed for the development of 
extensive futures and derivatives markets for U.S. products 
that promote true price discovery.
    The U.S. soybean industry has a strong relationship with 
FGIS, and when issues arise, we can address them in a manner 
that meets the needs of U.S. farmers while maintaining the 
integrity of those standards. Most recently, the U.S. soy 
industry worked with FGIS to review and remove soybeans of 
other color, or SBOC, as an official grade determining factor 
under the U.S. standard for soybeans. This was due to a rising 
occurrence of SBOC, resulting from a new soybean seed variety 
that had a tendency to produce off-color seed coats. This had 
no impact on the soybeans' protein, oil content, or quality, 
but farmers like me were being penalized because of the seed 
coat's color.
    In response to rising levels of SBOC, FGIS conducted a 
study on the functionality of protein and oil content of 
soybean samples containing varying amounts of SBOC. The results 
found no significant differences in the protein or oil content 
as compared to samples not containing this phenomenon. However, 
marketing concerns did remain, and FGIS took multiple meetings 
with industry, solicited feedback, and provided a notice of 
proposed rulemaking to remove SBOC from the U.S. standard for 
soybeans.
    In July 2023, a final rule was issued removing SBOC as a 
grade-determining factor for U.S. soybeans, a win for soybean 
farmers and an example of industry collaboration. Changing the 
standard for soybeans benefited farmers, exporters, and 
international customers by providing additional clarity and 
ensuring our trading partners knew that no matter what, they 
were still receiving the soybeans that they required.
    Reauthorization of the U.S. Grain Standards Act is vital 
for the continued success of U.S. soy in the international 
marketplace. On behalf of ASA, I thank the Committee for their 
timely attention to the expiring provisions of the U.S. Grain 
Standards Act. We appreciate the opportunity to share the 
importance of the FGIS system and look forward to working with 
this Committee to reauthorize the Grain Standards Act this 
year.
    Thank you, Senators, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Wipf can be found on pages 
37-40 in the appendix.]
    Chairman Boozman. Leader Thune.
    Senator Thune. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be very 
brief. We have got other Members here who want to ask 
questions, but I could just say I think we all recognize the 
importance of promoting U.S. agriculture on the world stage, 
which is why we must use every available tool to facilitate 
international trade to support farmers, grain processors, and 
exporters.
    As the United States engages and continues to engage in 
negotiations with our trading partners, we need to ensure that 
U.S. grains are seen as a reliable and high-quality product by 
foreign buyers. The Federal Grain Inspection Service works to 
maintain these standards so that our grain remains a reliable 
purchasing option.
    Mr. Wipf, could you maybe just explain in your view what 
impact on soybean markets in South Dakota and across the 
country would happen if the Grain Standards Act is allowed to 
expire?
    Mr. Wipf. Well, customers that buy from us do so under the 
auspices of these rules, and if those are allowed to lapse or 
if the funding for them is compromised, I think it would 
compromise the confidence that international buyers have in 
what they are purchasing from us. We urge a timely 
reauthorization.
    Senator Thune. Reauthorization. Okay. All right.
    A follow-up, and to anybody on the panel, but by providing 
impartial inspections and weighing services, FGIS has created a 
transparent, trustworthy system. I think we all agree that that 
system reduces the chances of price disparity and eliminates 
quality discrepancies. I say this to all of you. How have you 
seen the Federal Grain Inspection Service contribute to global 
grain price discovery, and what would be the potential 
consequences for international markets if FGIS services lapsed?
    Mr. Wipf. Well, you know, uncertainty is kind of a way of 
life in agriculture when you depend on the weather, but we try 
to do everything we can to remove as much uncertainty as we 
can, and we also understand those are the same priorities for 
our international buyers. Anytime you buy anything from a shirt 
to a car to a cargo of soybeans, you want to know what you are 
paying and what you are getting for it. If you know both of 
those things, I think you have a very good relationship. These 
rules are imperative to the continuation of our good 
relationships abroad.
    Senator Thune. Okay. Others? Mrs. Mikesh?
    Mrs. Mikesh. As part of my position, I work a lot with 
different associations to host trade groups that are coming 
over from all across the globe, and part of my presentation is 
going over what actually is the official grain inspection and 
the services that we do. What we do is unlike anywhere else in 
the world. After I am done with this hour-long presentation, 
the sparkle in their eyes, I know that sounds crazy, but they 
get so excited to buy our grain and the assurances that they 
are going to receive what it is that they are paying for, and 
they are always extremely impressed by what our system is.
    Senator Thune. Perfect. Thank you. Mr. Friant?
    Mr. Friant. I think, Senator, we have heard a couple times 
in the testimonies and in your remarks, the international buyer 
holds that USDA certificate as the gold standard. They want 
that when they buy from exporters like Cargill or other members 
of NGFA. If we lose the integrity and the guarantee of that 
certificate, I think it really hurts us as being recognized as 
that reliable supplier of quality grain.
    Senator Thune. Well, we want to be the reliable quality 
supplier and have people excited to buy. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Boozman. Senator Hyde-Smith.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    We know that those who buy U.S. grain, both domestically 
and internationally, must trust our grain inspection system 
functions properly. We know how important that is, and I 
certainly appreciate all of you willing to testify today and 
give us some insight on that.
    This trust in a functional system ensures that farmers, 
merchandisers, and end users all know they are operating within 
a system that is transparent, that is consistent, and it is 
science-based. I hear regularly from farmers and grain elevator 
operators in Mississippi who rely on the grain inspection 
system to protect the value of their grain and to ensure that 
they are competing on a level playing field with everyone else. 
The Grain Inspection Advisory Committee plays an important role 
in helping advise the Federal Grain Inspection Service navigate 
the technical and policy challenges of implementing the Grain 
Standards Act.
    Mr. Friant, I am going to let you take this first one. I 
agree with your testimony that the Grain Inspection Advisory 
Committee serves a critical role in advising FGIS, and I 
appreciate your service and commitment on that committee and 
your enthusiasm as well. Given the technical nature of the 
grain standards and the weighing systems, the advisory 
committee's role is essential for ensuring that FGIS actions 
continue to facilitate the export of the world's highest 
quality grain grown by producers in Mississippi and across the 
country.
    Are there any recommendations you might make to improve how 
FGIS incorporates the advice and counsel by the advisory 
committee into the agency's decision-making process? Is there 
something that you would like to suggest today while you have 
our attention that we can listen to you on?
    Mr. Friant. Well, thank you very much, Senator, for the 
question. I appreciate that. The advisory committee is near and 
dear to my heart, having served three times and participate as 
a member of the public as often as possible. It has been a 
great public opportunity for industry and service providers and 
producers for public record to talk about the needs and what we 
want to see the agency do. We have seen some good work come out 
of that, and we have some recommendations in our testimony 
around how we can ensure that members are appointed to the 
committee in a timely manner.
    One of the areas that the committee has struggled with over 
the last handful of years is folks' term is a three-year term 
limit, and they roll off, and new folks are not nominated in 
time to be seated on the committee. We want to see some 
provisions around how existing members can stay on the 
committee, if their time expires at three years, until a new 
person has been appointed and nominated to serve and replace 
that person on the committee.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Yes, it makes sense that you need that 
continuity, and you certainly do not need the void and the 
spaces there.
    I have a little more time left. I would like to highlight 
the importance of protecting the trade surplus in the United 
States has historically maintained the grain and oilseeds. 
While overall agriculture trade surplus has evaporated into 
what USDA now projects to be a $49 billion deficit in 2025, 
grain continues to be the bright spot for agriculture. You 
know, in fact, America enjoys $65 billion of trade surplus on 
U.S. grains and oilseeds, very exciting.
    This is a credit to our farmers who continue to grow the 
highest quality grain in the world, and it is a credit to our 
transportation system, our infrastructure, including the 
critical American waterways, highways, and rail systems that 
ship this out. It is a result of decades of diligent work to 
develop and to grow these markets and to protect these markets.
    Mississippi farmers contribute significantly to our 
country's grain production, particularly through crops like 
rice, soybeans, and corn. These crops are exported down the 
Mississippi River and through the Gulf of America, let me get 
that right, which supports several grain transport operations 
in my home state. Ensuring we maintain the integrity of our 
inspection system is of paramount importance to me, especially 
as it relates to our export markets.
    This question is for all of you. What are some of the 
challenges that we face with grain exports? What can we do in 
the Grain Standards Act's reauthorization to help overcome 
those challenges? I am a little bit over, but if you guys are 
allowed to answer that right now.
    Mrs. Mikesh. Thank you for that question. One of the things 
that you will likely hear each of us talk about is the need for 
developing technology. One of those reasons is down at the 
exports, the port locations, there is not consistency of the 
volume that there used to be. I remember when I was younger, we 
would have--it was always harvest time at harvest time. We had 
to staff up for that, and then usually there was natural 
attrition, and then you would get through the summers.
    Well, because of just how the market has changed, there are 
a lot of ups and downs as far as volume. One thing that we 
really think could help in maintaining consistency is bringing 
forth more technology within the grain inspection system so 
that we can rely on this technology and more consistency among 
people. That is something that we think could really help.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Thank you.
    Mr. Wipf. The only thing that comes to mind for me is, as 
farmers have added on-farm storage for grain, it has changed 
the profile of when that grain comes to market. If there are 
areas where government can target funds to help farmers in 
certain areas, to plus up their storage, to maybe make it a 
little bit more predictable, and then also education for 
farmers because using that storage effectively does not happen 
by accident. You do have to know what you are doing, so I think 
there is an educational piece there too. Thank you.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Very good points.
    Mr. Friant. I think just a timely and bipartisan 
reauthorization of the U.S. Grain Standard Act. It ensures that 
continuity and consistency of the program. Then to agree with 
my co-witness, Mrs. Mikesh, we have talked about it for a 
couple years now, technology. What technology can we adapt and 
adopt for grain grading? I think it is paramount.
    Senator Hyde-Smith. What kind of technology are you 
referring to?
    Mr. Friant. I might defer to Kia, but we have been looking 
at a lot of different possibilities. I think the biggest one--
and frankly, I have been hearing about it since the first day I 
walked into Cargill over 20 years ago, and it is visual imaging 
technology, to be able to look at a grain sample and say, what 
is the level of damage?
    Senator Hyde-Smith. Got you. Yes, very important and could 
speed up things. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Boozman. Senator Hoeven.
    Senator Hoeven. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I did not get her 
right at the beginning, but I definitely want to take just a 
few minutes to talk about Kia from Fargo, North Dakota. What 
did you do with your buddy from Grand Forks? Is he around here? 
Okay, there he is. Good. Okay, glad you are both here. I want 
to welcome you both and just make sure that if somebody did not 
bring it up sooner, that Kia is third generation in the grain 
inspection business, which is pretty cool, Vice President of 
North Dakota Grain Inspection, but President of the American 
Association of Grain Inspection and Weighing Agencies at a very 
young age, I must say, so pretty awesome.
    Her grandfather, Steve Adams, began his career at North 
Dakota Grain Inspection shortly after its founding in 1968, and 
I think it is pretty awesome that you are following in your 
grandfather's footsteps.
    I am pro grandpas----
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Hoeven [continuing]. and I am pro grandkids 
following in grandpa's footsteps. So is the Chairman. You can 
tell by looking he is a grandpa too, right? Yes. Just because 
he looks real happy, not because he looks old or anything like 
that. It is so awesome that you are here, and obviously, your 
input is very important, along with your colleagues as far as 
the Grain Inspection Service.
    I am actually going to shift gears a little. I thought 
Senator Hyde-Smith, who was in the cattle business, had great 
questions on the grain side, obviously knows agriculture. I 
want to ask what you all are hearing from our farmers and our 
ranchers in terms of grain sales.
    You know, in our part of the world, obviously they are 
combining soybeans, corn, other crops. Particularly for some of 
the younger producers and those that are more leveraged, they 
have to sell right off the combine or at least contract. You 
know, we are hearing concerns, you know, whether it is corn or 
soybeans or other crops.
    Just talk to us a little bit on what you are hearing in 
terms of the marketing of those crops and just any ideas you 
have along those lines to make sure that we are not only well 
informed but doing whatever we can to be helpful.
    Kia, we get to start with you because you are from North 
Dakota. Then we are going to go to South Dakota out of 
deference to the Majority Leader. Then Nick, you are the 
cleanup hitter. You look like a cleanup hitter, like you can 
put it out of the park.
    Mrs. Mikesh. Thank you so much for that question. Grain 
sales are not something that is within my expertise. However, 
what I have been very proud of that all the grain inspection 
agencies like ours do is we help make sure that there is 
consistency in the grading that is done. If you are in North 
Dakota and there is a grain elevator selling their soybeans or 
their corn, and it is going out to the PNW, they are meeting 
the consistency of when they are having it graded at the origin 
versus destination, and that is something that is paramount to 
make sure that you are able to sell your grain properly and 
give you the best outcome that you can have. From my 
perspective, that is one thing that we do.
    Mr. Wipf. Well, I will start, Senator Hoeven, by saying I 
was not invited here because of my expertise on getting it 
right, marketing my grain every time. Some days you feel like a 
hero, and some days you just do not.
    Discussions amongst farmers about the sales that they make 
are sometimes--it is a difficult topic because it comes right 
down to how much money are you making, and when you grow up on 
a farm, you do not talk about that. We are taught to be very 
humble about things. When you get it right, you maybe do not 
talk about that. When you really blow it, you would be sure 
to----
    Senator Hoeven. An aggressive farmer is one that looks at 
the other guy's shoes instead of his own shoes.
    Mr. Wipf. Yes. You know, you will go down to the coffee 
shop and you are more likely to talk about the things that you 
have gotten wrong than right, counterintuitively, so it is 
sometimes hard to know exactly where my peers are at. I am on a 
learning curve just like everybody else. I am about 15 years in 
now as a farmer, and every year I learn something a little bit 
more.
    Basically, the thing that I try to tell younger producers 
is lay off as much risk as you can because there is no shortage 
of uncertainty in our business. The ability to use futures 
markets, which in turn rely on the issue before the Committee 
here today, to hedge that risk is, I just cannot stress the 
importance of that enough.
    Senator Hoeven. Then tell me, how you are marketing your 
crop this year?
    Mr. Wipf. Well, I am probably 40 to 50 percent sold on my 
row crops.
    Senator Hoeven. You did that earlier in the year?
    Mr. Wipf. Yes, staged out throughout the year. We are right 
in the middle of wheat harvest right now, so I am not that 
popular with my dad, by the way, taking a quick trip to D.C. 
this time of year. No, we are fine. We are selling some of that 
right off the combine because we are looking at a really big 
corn crop potentially coming in. We are going to need all the 
storage we have.
    Senator Hoeven. Are you having any trouble moving that 
crop?
    Mr. Wipf. No. I might not like the price I am getting right 
now, but there is no trouble.
    Senator Hoeven. That is not a function of the inspection 
service and----
    Mr. Wipf. No. No, sir. No. I would love to be able to sit 
on it and wait for maybe a little better price, but we do see a 
pretty big crop coming this fall, and we are going to need all 
of the space on our farm available for that just to keep the 
combines moving.
    Senator Hoeven. You are moving the wheat right off the 
combine. You are not having trouble getting that contracted?
    Mr. Wipf. No, sir. No.
    Senator Hoeven. Okay. All right. You are making room for 
row crop with the idea you may hold it?
    Mr. Wipf. Yes. Just because corn in particular is a high-
volume crop, you want on-farm storage so you can keep that 
combine moving. If you are in line at the elevator waiting, you 
do not get much done in a day.
    Senator Hoeven. Yes.
    Mr. Wipf. Yes.
    Senator Hoeven. Okay.
    Mr. Friant. I am not sure how the cleanup hitter is going 
to follow that one up.
    Senator Hoeven. Well, you see it directly, right, in terms 
of buying crop and what farmers are doing. What are you seeing?
    Mr. Friant. In my role at Cargill, I do not deal with the 
buying and selling. They call me when we have a problem with 
the quality or the Grain Standards Act or trying to manage 
inventory and storage. When I have market questions, I candidly 
walk over to the trading floor and talk to them and let them 
handle it. I think it is----
    Senator Hoeven. Last time you did that, what did they tell 
you?
    Mr. Friant. They told me to go away.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Friant. Stay in my lane. I think that is the beauty of 
the U.S. Grain Standards Act, right? Kia kind of alluded to it, 
as did Brandon, right? Whether it was riding the truck with my 
dad to deliver to Minooka Grain and Lumber in my hometown, or 
when I was grading grain in Topeka, Kansas, or when I worked in 
New Orleans at Reserve at our export terminal, U.S. No. 2 
soybean was the same. U.S. No. 2 was the same in Minooka, 
Topeka, New Orleans, and the international buyer. That 
consistency, and we heard about it, that is how, you know, the 
international market and the domestic market uses it for price 
discovery, so we know it is going to be the same. I think that 
is the beauty of the U.S. standards is it does not matter where 
you are at in the U.S. and for most world buyers, you know that 
you are getting U.S. No. 2 soybean, and you have got that full 
backing of that Federal Grain Inspection Service certificate.
    Senator Hoeven. Yes, with the indulgence, Chairman, one 
final question. Are we doing a good job on the consistency? Are 
other countries doing a good job on consistency, or is that an 
advantage we have in the international markets?
    Mr. Friant. I would say, yes, we are doing a very good job 
with consistency. We think, as we have shared in our 
testimonies, there are some things, particularly around 
technology that we could do that would help the consistency, 
help the efficiency. Yes, overall, I think we are doing a very 
good job. That is why we continue to say today and always that 
U.S. certificate is the gold standard. I think we are probably 
biased on this panel that we are better in the U.S. than our 
foreign competitors, and I think there have been some studies 
that show the value of the U.S. certificate and the U.S., you 
know, grain supply chain being reliable and consistent.
    Mrs. Mikesh. I would agree. I see that we are having 
consistency across the Nation. However, in order to obtain that 
consistency, it takes a lot of time to grade that grain. When 
our team members are out at grain elevators, they are--when I 
was younger, I should say, I used to see where a train would 
take a few days to load. That gives a lot of time for a grain 
inspector to sit there and pick through the grain, pick through 
each individual kernel. Now we are sitting at grain elevators 
that will load 115 rail cars in under five hours. Even if you 
have multiple inspectors there, there is not always a lot of 
space, so that is difficult as well. It is hard to keep up with 
the loading process.
    That is where technology can come into play and help as an 
aid in us to be able to consistently grade that grain and as 
well as help places like Cargill and farmers so that they can 
keep their grain moving at a fast pace.
    Senator Hoeven. Thanks again to all of you, appreciate it. 
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Wipf. Well, I was just going to say, do not take my 
word for it. I will tell you what I see at foreign ports when I 
visited there and visited with the management and the blue-
collar folks unloading those vessels. I have seen the issues 
they deal with with some of our competitors' cargos, and they 
very much prefer when they are unloading a cargo from a U.S. 
destination. It does not matter whether it is the PNW, off the 
Gulf, off the Eastern Seaboard. They know they are getting that 
consistent product because of our grading standards.
    Senator Hoeven. That is really good to hear. Again, thanks 
to all of you.
    Chairman Boozman. Senator Marshall.
    Senator Marshall. All right. Thank you, Chairman, and 
welcome to our guests today.
    I want to probably focus on trade for the first half. The 
tariffs get all the ink, but the non-tariff barriers is my 
biggest concern when it comes to agriculture. I want to ask 
some questions regarding how do our grain standards help 
protect us from non-tariff barriers? And/or do you have 
examples when you feel like other countries have used that 
against us one way or another, that they are not accepting our 
grading system? Maybe, Mrs. Mikesh, you would not mind starting 
if you have a thought.
    Mrs. Mikesh. Thank you, Senator. Yes, from what I see in my 
perspective with an official grain inspection is if there are 
complaints overseas about any shipments of grain, it is 
wonderful having the FGIS and USDA backing on that. FGIS has 
individuals that can work through that. Since everything that 
we do, the paper we write on, the certificates we do, is all 
considered federal property. As those questions come through, 
we are able to kind of go backward and see down to exactly when 
a stowage exam of looking inside a container was done and what 
was found during that. I think that that is something that has 
been very beneficial for our trading partners across the seas 
that they know that they can figure out what is going on, and 
it is a little more difficult for that to be used when we have 
very good records of what happened for those shipments.
    Senator Marshall. Despite that, are there examples, though, 
when they ignore our grading system and reject our grains?
    Mrs. Mikesh. That is something that I do not have expertise 
in. I apologize.
    Senator Marshall. That is fine. Mr. Wipf, any comments?
    Mr. Wipf. I had heard conversations about sometimes a 
foreign buyer might have become accustomed to getting maybe a 
little bit better than what the grade actually is. Then if you 
ever deliver at the grade, then they feel they have a 
complaint. You say, well, okay, what were you looking for? You 
know, let's work through this. They describe what they wanted, 
and you say, well, you just described No. 1 corn, and you paid 
for No. 2 corn. It is very nice to have this grading system to 
fall back on and say, you want better? We have better. Let's 
have that conversation. It is just that level playing field and 
that kind of ``good fences make good neighbors'' sort of rules 
that we can all agree on.
    Senator Marshall. Okay. Mr. Friant, anything to add?
    Mr. Friant. Yes. I mean, I think we would make the case--
and I, through my craft, dealt with non-tariff trade barriers. 
We make the case that is why we have the U.S. grain standards, 
right? The U.S. grain standards help address some of those 
concerns, whether it is damage or insects or other quality 
factors. That is why we have them.
    I think Mrs. Mikesh made a great point. We have got that 
backing. If there is a complaint from a foreign buyer, there is 
an official process. FGIS gets involved and they re-look at the 
sample and provide an official report or a formal report. In my 
experience, almost every single time, we proved that we loaded 
what we said we were going to load, and the quality met what 
the buyer was expecting to get.
    Senator Marshall. Okay. With the time I have remaining, I 
want to kind of put on my MAHA hat here and give you all a 
chance to brag too. I think there was a misconception out there 
that we are not testing grain, that we are not testing what we 
milled for--let's maybe focus on pesticides for a second. I 
think that is the biggest concern. Just describe what we are 
doing and what those standards look like. What type of 
reassurance would you give my daughter, the mother of my two 
grandsons, that American grain is safe? Maybe go in reverse 
order, Mr. Friant. Friant, go first, perhaps.
    Mr. Friant. Sure. I would start with, I eat the products 
made out of the grain. I am happy to feed them to my family. My 
daughter is here today without----
    Senator Marshall. So far, so good?
    Mr. Friant. Yes. We have a really strong system here, 
right? EPA regulates, FDA enforces. We have strong programs to 
ensure that proper residue limits are set, and they are 
monitored, and we do not see those in our supply chain.
    Senator Marshall. Okay. Mr. Wipf.
    Mr. Wipf. Yes. My role as the farmer is really to 
understand the pesticide labels, make sure that I am applying 
those right, and then to every extent that I can, invest in the 
latest technology so that I am able to apply timely and 
properly. As long as I am doing that, that is kind of the last 
stage I have in it, but I stand behind every bushel that I 
produce.
    Senator Marshall. Then you take it to the elevator, I am 
going to say elevator, maybe take it different places, and the 
grain is tested there for residues.
    Mr. Wipf. I do not believe each load. I am not really sure 
at what point that that happens. The ticket I get when I dump a 
truck of grain mainly deals with moisture, maybe protein 
content, mainly things that deal with will this grain spoil too 
quickly, or will it stay in condition until it gets to the end 
customer?
    Senator Marshall. Right.
    Mr. Wipf. Perhaps there is somebody better than me to 
address your question.
    Mrs. Mikesh. Thank you for that question. That is something 
that I am very passionate about as far as making sure that the 
quality of our grain is there.
    Some of the factors that we look for that are important in 
respect to what you are discussing is mycotoxins, so making 
sure that corn does not have aflatoxin or vomitoxin in it or 
our wheat does not have ergot or vomitoxin or many other 
factors where they are safety factors to make sure that either 
the end consumer, whether that is a human or cattle is going to 
be okay and be healthy through that.
    I think that one of the things that I see is that, you 
know, I spoke a little bit in my testimony that exports are 
mandated to have quality inspection but nothing domestically 
is, and so our entire official agency is done on mainly 
permissive work. Even though it is not mandated under the Grain 
Standards Act that the grain at an elevator in Castleton, North 
Dakota, is done, the whole entire system finds that essentially 
mandatory in their own right. The buyers will require the 
sellers to provide them with heavy testing. We have grades on 
every single railcar that goes out that show those different 
damages that can be very toxic--some of them can be--but then 
also doing mycotoxins on every railcar. I think that shows the 
commitment to safety in the industry.
    Senator Marshall. Are you testing for pesticides as well?
    Mrs. Mikesh. We are not testing for pesticides. That does 
go to a different level. Grain inspections, we do more of the 
quicker analysis that they can do to buy and sell, but I know 
that FGIS does pesticide residue testing, as well as other 
private agencies.
    Senator Marshall. Okay. All right. Mr. Friant, are you 
wanting to add something? Nope, okay.
    Thank you so much, Chairman.
    Chairman Boozman. Mrs. Mikesh, your testimony highlights 
the request for official agencies to take part in research 
activities. As the Vice President of an official agency, can 
you speak to the impact this clarification would have on your 
family's business and the inspection system as a whole?
    Mrs. Mikesh. Thank you, Chairman. Yes, we have seen over 
the years that FGIS has worked very hard to help get technology 
going, but it is a difficult process. Nick and I, a few years 
back, went to an agricultural marketing services innovation 
summit, and we were there with, you know, fruits and vegetables 
and organics. Everyone else was having a little bit easier of a 
time finding technology to help aid in their inspection 
process.
    You know, when people think that, you know, you are in an 
isolated area and you feel maybe that you are a unicorn, 
everything is a lot more difficult for our area. We found that 
for grain, that was definitely true. You know, when you are 
looking at a tomato, you can see things pretty visibly, whereas 
we are looking at tiny little kernels and looking at them 
individually per sample we do for railcar.
    With that, there is a lot that has been going on in 
technology. There is definitely a bottleneck in having the 
Federal Government do all of the testing or all of the analysis 
on it to determine if something is fit for purpose.
    One of the things that we discuss in the advisory committee 
is, you know, new technologies will come through, but you 
always have to make sure that it is the same or better. That is 
difficult to do and takes a lot of time. One of the things that 
we have discussed is that official agencies could take on some 
of that in the beginning, let's say 80 to 90 percent.
    When I was talking about mycotoxins earlier, that is where 
you have seen the most evolution in technology is things that 
there is a great scientific base that is outside of the 
official agencies' purview as well, whereas when you are 
talking about visual grading, that is something that there are 
very few that are experts in, FGIS being one, as well as 
official agencies.
    We think that official agencies would be able to take on a 
lot of that and help escalate the timeliness of getting 
technology improved, as well as being able to see a lot of 
real-life examples that happen right away, instead of figuring 
it out when something is already approved.
    You know, our agency provides service in nine states. That 
is a lot of different types of damages, different types of 
corn, soybeans, and different geographical environments. We 
think that that would be an added benefit for official agencies 
to help as well.
    Chairman Boozman. Very good.
    Mr. Wipf, you outlined the successful and swift action by 
FGIS and stakeholders to remedy the ``soybeans of other color'' 
issue a few years ago. Can you speak to the need for this 
process to be adaptable to new seed technologies that maintain 
the expectation of consistency and quality worldwide?
    Mr. Wipf. Yes, so to me that situation that I highlighted 
with the soybeans of other color, it just shows us that the 
system worked. It is robust enough to deal with a curveball we 
had not seen before maybe. Luckily, we were able to work 
through that process and very grateful that we were able to do 
so and that nothing was disrupted for the farmers. I think it 
is important that we continue to offer that flexibility because 
of the unknown unknowns. We do not know maybe what the next 
sort of similar situation might be, but I am grateful that the 
system worked.
    Chairman Boozman. Very good. Mr. Friant, you served many 
years on the Grain Inspection Advisory Committee. Can you share 
additional insight in the importance of the advisory committee 
and if the committee has tried to tackle some of the priorities 
you raised today?
    Mr. Friant. Yes, thank you, Chairman. I appreciate that 
question. Very much so the advisory committee has served a 
really important function for the agency and then for industry 
producers, official agencies, as I mentioned previously, that 
public forum to have the conversations and for FGIS to hear 
from stakeholders, what do we need.
    I think one really good success story--and I want to thank 
Senator Hyde-Smith, and Senator Hoeven had to leave--dealing 
with FDA actionable grain, and that was something that the 
committee brought to the agency and said here are some 
concerns, here are some changes we would like to see happen. 
FGIS took those recommendations from the committee back, worked 
with FDA, and then, as I mentioned, the support from Senator 
Hyde-Smith and Senator Hoeven to help the process along. We 
ended up with some new directives and direction that has made 
it significantly easier for the industry to manage. Really, 
truly a good success story of how that advisory committee 
worked, and the agency took what was recommended and turned it 
into something actionable for the industry.
    Chairman Boozman. Very good.
    Senator Hyde-Smith, have you got any other questions or 
comments?
    Senator Hyde-Smith. I do not have anything to add.
    Chairman Boozman. Well, thank you again, witnesses, for 
being here. You did a tremendous job, and this was very, very 
helpful. This helps us understand how important it is for us to 
get our work done and get this reauthorized. We do appreciate 
the fact that you took time, especially when it brings you out 
of the field and things like that. Tell your daddy I am sorry.
    The record will remain open for five business days. Again, 
thanks always to all of the staff that worked so hard to make 
this happen on both sides.
    With that, the hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 4:03 p.m., the Committee was adjourned.]

      
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