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                    THE PRC'S THREATS TO AMERICANS:
                        TRANSNATIONAL REPRESSION
                       AND STATE-LEVEL RESPONSES

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                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                              JUNE 4, 2026

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              CONGRESSIONAL-EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA

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Senate                               House

DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska, Chair          CHRIS SMITH, New Jersey, Co-chair
TOM COTTON, Arkansas                 ZACHARY NUNN, Iowa
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 ELISE STEFANIK, New York
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois            DALE STRONG, Alabama
ANDY KIM, New Jersey                 JEN KIGGANS, Virginia
LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware       JAMES P. McGOVERN, Massachusetts
                                     THOMAS SUOZZI, New York
                                     SUHAS SUBRAMANYAM, Virginia
                                     JAMES WALKINSHAW, Virginia

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                      Scott Flipse, Staff Director

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                            C O N T E N T S

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                               Statements

Opening Statement of Hon. Chris Smith, a Representative from New 
  Jersey; Chair, Congressional-Executive Commission on China.....     1
Statement of James P. McGovern, a Representative from 
  Massachusetts..................................................     3
Statement of Suhas Subramanyam, a Representative from Virginia...     6
Statement of Stephen J. Cox, Counsel to the Governor, State of 
  Alaska.........................................................     8
Statement of Eliot Bostar, Nebraska State Senator................    10
Statement of Arthur Liu, owner, Inter-Pacific Law Group..........    12
Statement of Anna Kwok, Board Director and former Executive 
  Director, Hong Kong Democracy Council..........................    15

                                APPENDIX
                          Prepared Statements

Cox, Stephen J...................................................    29
Bostar, Eliot....................................................    31
Liu, Arthur......................................................    34
Kwok, Anna.......................................................    35

Smith, Hon. Chris................................................    36
Sullivan, Hon. Dan...............................................    37
McGovern, Hon. James P...........................................    38

                       Submissions for the Record

Submission of Levi Browde and James Yu, Falun Dafa Information 
  Center.........................................................    41
Submission of Dr. Henryk Szadziewski, Director of Research, 
  Uyghur Human Rights Project....................................    53

CECC Truth in Testimony Disclosure Form..........................    57
Witness Biographies..............................................    59

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                    THE PRC'S THREATS TO AMERICANS:
                        TRANSNATIONAL REPRESSION
                       AND STATE-LEVEL RESPONSES

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                         THURSDAY, JUNE 4, 2026

                            Congressional-Executive
                                       Commission on China,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The hearing was held from 1:34 p.m. to 3:07 p.m., in Room 
106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC, 
Representative Chris Smith, Co-chair, Congressional-Executive 
Commission on China, presiding.
    Also present: Representatives McGovern and Subramanyam.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF CHRIS SMITH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NEW 
              JERSEY AND CO-CHAIR, CONGRESSIONAL-
                 EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA

    Co-chair Smith. The Commission will come to order. And 
thank you all for being here, and my good friend and colleague, 
Jim McGovern, at this hearing of the CECC. I want to thank all 
of you in advance. Before we begin I want to mark a solemn 
anniversary. Today marks the 37th anniversary of the Tiananmen 
Square massacre. Thirty-seven years ago millions of Chinese 
citizens peacefully asked for political reform, democratic 
openness, and basic human dignity. Their hope was met with 
tanks. The Chinese Communist Party unleashed the People's 
Liberation Army on peaceful demonstrators.
    Mothers lost sons, fathers lost daughters, and China lost 
an idealistic generation to the violence of June 4th, 1989. 
There has been no full accounting of those killed, imprisoned, 
or disappeared. The Party still tries to erase a massacre the 
world must never forget. But Tiananmen cannot be erased. The 
enduring image of that day is the Tank Man, the solitary figure 
standing before a column of tanks. His courage reminds us that 
the desire for freedom is not Western, not foreign, and it's 
not imposed from the outside. It is universal.
    As I have said before, a choice has been made by all of us. 
You either stand with the Tank Man or you stand with the tank. 
There is no middle ground. Tiananmen is not a detour for this 
hearing. It is the key to understanding it. The same party that 
tried to crush truth at home now tries to chase truth abroad. 
The tactics have not changed. The technology has changed, the 
reach has expanded, but the purpose is the same--to make people 
afraid to speak the truth, by almost any means necessary. 
Inside China, the CCP uses surveillance, censorship, prison, 
the pervasive use of torture, forced disappearance, and fear to 
maintain their grip on power.
    But what happens in China no longer stays in China. The 
Party wants to control what is said about China here, and to 
control who says it. The CECC has warned about the CCP's long 
arm for years. Long before transnational repression became a 
common phrase, I held a dozen hearings or so of this Commission 
and in my Subcommittee on Human Rights, documenting and 
exposing a consistent pattern of global abuse, starting with 
Confucius Institutes back in 2014. Over time, tactics have 
become more digital and more ruthless--detaining family members 
in China, doxing, the use of spyware, deepfakes, Hong Kong 
bounties, and the illegal
police stations right here in the United States.
    It is outrageous and unacceptable, and it absolutely must 
stop. Transnational repression is not only a threat to 
Americans, it's a broader, interconnected CCP strategy. We see 
that strategy in scam networks stealing from U.S. citizens, 
fentanyl poisoning of our cities and our young people, PRC-
linked land purchases near military installations, efforts to 
corrupt politicians and elections, steal private personnel and 
biometric data, and intellectual property theft from businesses 
and universities.
    I would note parenthetically, when I held a hearing on how 
Google, Microsoft, and Cisco were enabling the Chinese arm of 
repression in China by censoring what people could see when 
they did a Google search, my personal computer, my committee's 
computers, were all hit. Everything was taken. And it was all 
traced to Beijing. That was in 2005. They have gotten far more 
effective at doing that kind of repression. Everything was 
gone. And, you know, including personally identifiable 
information on me, and I'm not the only one. Many other people 
had the same thing happen.
    We see that strategy replicated in other countries as well. 
It's not just the United States. It's Canada and elsewhere. 
These may all look like separate problems, but they share a 
common purpose--
exploit our openness, gather leverage, weaken our institutions, 
spread propaganda, and make Americans pay a price for standing 
up to Beijing. But I have news for them. We're not backing 
down. The members of this Commission, the people who are here 
today, our very distinguished witnesses, we will never bow down 
to this tyranny. Transnational repression is the most personal 
form of that strategy. It brings pressure campaigns to the 
doorstep of students, the journalists, dissidents, artists, and 
family members.
    That is why state and local responses matter. A victim may 
first call the police. A student may go to a university 
official. A state attorney general may see the pattern. A state 
legislator may realize the existing law does not fit the 
threat. So the questions are practical. Do local officials and 
officers recognize this threat? Do universities know how to 
protect their students? Do states have the tools they need? And 
does the Federal Government have a real strategy? And are we 
deploying enough of our capacity and capability to mitigate 
this threat?
    That's why I'm so proud to work with Chairman Sullivan, 
Senator Merkley, and Jim McGovern on the Transnational 
Repression Policy Act. This bipartisan, bicameral legislation 
would define the abuse, improve coordination, train officials, 
support targeted communities, and hold perpetrators 
accountable--because victims need more than just sympathy; they 
need protection and a place to turn, where those to whom they 
turn are well informed and equipped with tools to stop it.
    But let me make one point clear. A regime that fears a 
student's question, a refugee's protest, an artist's statue, or 
the simple memory of the Tiananmen Square massacre is not 
strong. It's not a confident superpower. I remember when we did 
that hearing--we brought in the Google people. We had them 
testify, as well as Cisco, Microsoft, and Yahoo. And I put up 
on the board what you get in China when you put in the 
Tiananmen Square massacre. You get nothing but pretty pictures 
of people smiling and taking snapshots and videos there on the 
square. Nothing about the massacre or the protests. They live 
in a culture of denial, and that denial has to be eradicated.
    I would say that any so-called superpower that does that 
lives in fear, and they are very afraid. It makes them perhaps 
even more dangerous. But they are not operating out of a 
position of confidence or power. Fear in the hands of a 
dictatorship, like I said, is dangerous. It becomes coercion. 
It becomes censorship. It becomes repression. It crosses 
borders and reaches right into our own communities. So our 
answer must be unmistakable. If the CCP threatens people here, 
there must be investigations and prosecutions. If it reaches 
across our borders to spread fear, there must be sanctions. If 
it takes family members hostage to silence a critic, which they 
do all the time, we will demand their release and expose the 
cruelty of that tactic. And if it tries to censor a free 
people, we will defend and spread the rights that Beijing fears 
most--freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of 
assembly, and the right to tell the truth without fear. Because 
in the United States of America, unlike China, no one needs the 
Party's permission to speak, to worship, to protest, to 
remember, or to be free. And that's why this hearing matters. 
And that's why having four very distinguished people testifying 
will help us get that message across. Thank you so much.
    [The prepared statement of Co-chair Smith appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Jim.

                STATEMENT OF JAMES P. McGOVERN,
              A REPRESENTATIVE FROM MASSACHUSETTS

    Representative McGovern. Thank you very much. I want to 
thank my colleague from New Jersey, Congressman Smith, for his 
words and for his commitment to human rights, not only in China 
but all around the world. Good morning, everybody. I want to 
welcome our witnesses and our guests to today's hearing on 
transnational repression.
    Today is June 4th, and as Co-chair Smith pointed out, 37 
years ago the Chinese government directed the military to 
attack civilians who were exercising their right to freedom of 
expression to call for economic and political reform. Let us 
never forget those who bravely stood for freedom in Tiananmen 
Square and other cities, the mothers who never knew the fate of 
their children, and those who continue to tell the stories in 
the face of a government that seeks to silence them. And let us 
not forget that any society whose leaders are willing to use 
lethal force against peaceful protesters is a society at risk 
of losing its fundamental liberties.
    I am glad that the Commission continues to address 
transnational repression. In 2020, Co-chair Marco Rubio and I 
created a new chapter called ``Human Rights Violations in the 
U.S. and Globally'' in the annual report. And CECC staff have 
just released a new special report on transnational repression. 
I always appreciate the dedication of the nonpartisan subject 
matter experts who work for this Commission. This report is 
absolutely worth reading.
    China is the world's worst perpetrator of transnational 
repression. Freedom House lists the PRC with the most 
incidents, 319 since 2014. And that only accounts for reported 
incidents. Who knows how many people have gotten threatening 
texts or calls that they are too scared to report. But 
transnational repression is more than China. Freedom House 
lists Tajikistan, Rwanda, Russia, Egypt, and Belarus among the 
biggest violators. Last year I chaired a Tom Lantos Human 
Rights Commission hearing highlighting TNR by India, Pakistan, 
and Hong Kong. Yesterday afternoon Co-chair Smith and I 
convened a hearing on Turkiye, listed with 160 TNR incidents.
    You know, hearings are fine, but it really is time for 
action. Advocates tell us that their number one goal is to 
create a standard definition of transnational repression. I am 
proud to join with CECC leaders Senators Merkley and Sullivan, 
and Co-chair Smith, in sponsoring the Transnational Repression 
Policy Act. It defines TNR in statute, strengthening efforts to 
counter it at the federal, state, and local level. This bill 
was first introduced in the House three years ago, but it has 
gone nowhere. In March, Freedom House led a coalition of 35 
organizations, including Uyghur, Tibetan, Chinese, and Hong 
Kong human rights groups, in a statement to the chairs of the 
House Foreign Affairs Committee and the Senate Foreign 
Relations Committee, asking them to mark up the bill. Foreign 
Affairs has scheduled four markups since that letter, but the 
Transnational Repression Policy Act never makes the agenda. I 
ask Chairman Mast in the House to schedule it, to act.
    Our bill is important. It would give the U.S. the tools to 
lead on TNR. Equally important, we must acknowledge that the 
tools will only be effective if we avoid double standards. I 
worry that we're falling short. One, President Biden started, 
and President Trump completed, the rehabilitation of Saudi 
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who directed the murder of 
Jamal Khashoggi in Turkiye. We lose credibility when the U.S. 
Government allows impunity for transnational repression.
    Two, this Commission characterized the deportation by 
Thailand of 40 Uyghurs to China as transnational repression, 
yet the Trump administration has deported individuals who have 
been transnationally repressed in the U.S. by Iran and by 
Russia, back to those countries. We lose credibility to ask 
other countries to protect TNR victims when the U.S. Government 
refuses to protect TNR victims.
    Three, to the extent we label political interference by 
China and the U.S. as transnational repression, then we must 
consider Senator Bernie Moreno's meddling in the Colombian 
election as transnational repression. We lose credibility when 
U.S. officials act like CCP officials.
    Four, last year the Trump administration sanctioned a 
Brazilian judge who brought insurrectionists to justice, 
falsely portraying legitimate accountability as transnational 
repression. We lose credibility when U.S. officials pervert TNR 
to help political allies.
    In September, our credibility will be again tested. Xi 
Jinping will visit Washington at President Trump's invitation. 
The last time he was in the U.S., thugs associated with the 
Chinese consulate in San Francisco beat up anti-Xi protesters.
    We must be prepared to defend the right of protest here. 
The question is, will we? And I mean, this administration has 
deployed security forces to suppress Americans' right to 
protest. They're doing it right now outside of Delaney Hall ICE 
facility in Newark, New Jersey. If Xi Jinping asked President 
Trump to contain or control Chinese, Uyghur, and Tibetan 
protesters, will he do that? Or will he be wind at the backs of 
those engaged in legitimate dissent? You know, this 
administration has deported people for exercising their free 
speech rights under the First Amendment and the ICCPR to 
criticize the Israeli government. If Xi Jinping, you know, 
asked President Trump to deport people, for whatever reason, 
back to China, we must make it clear that that is unacceptable, 
and we will not do that, and we will not stand for that.
    Transnational repression is a human rights violation. All 
human beings are entitled to the same rights, no matter where 
they live or how they feel about their government. And I thank 
the witnesses for being here today. I welcome the insight. I 
want to apologize in advance that I think--I don't know if 
we'll get to my questions, but we just got word that--I'm on 
the Rules Committee--at 2:30 we're taking up the rule. So, 
anyway--frustrating--but I want to be here for your testimony. 
Thank you. I yield back.
    [The prepared statement of Representative McGovern appears 
in the Appendix.]
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you. I want to thank our Ranking 
Member. And you know, we do have some disagreements on some 
issues; you know, Delaney Hall is in my state, and I have been 
closely monitoring everything going on there. There are people 
who are credibly accused of rape, child sex trafficking--and I 
wrote five laws on human trafficking, including the Trafficking 
Victims Protection Act--who are in that facility. And the 
federal law enforcement, ICE, Immigration and Customs 
Enforcement, police have been bitten. They've been kicked, 
punched. The level of restraint that they have shown is 
incredible. Our governor brought in the state police, and now 
the Newark police are there as well. So, you know, there are a 
lot of people in that facility. They were claiming that the 
food wasn't good. It is good. I just can't believe--you know, 
just because somebody said, Oh, this water stinks, doesn't make 
it stink. We've got to be very careful. So this isn't the 
place, I guess, to debate that.
    We are here, united and standing with our friends, both 
here as part of the diaspora, as well as people inside of China 
who are suffering the cruelty of Xi Jinping each and every day. 
I'm barred from going to China. I have tried to go. I've been 
put on the list. Global Times named me as an enemy--they also 
named Marco Rubio as an enemy, and Jim, you know, so we need to 
push back as never before against the monstrous dictatorship of 
Xi Jinping. And, again, you, the four witnesses, help bring a 
great deal of light and scrutiny as to what to do next 
concerning this important issue.
    Congressman Subramanyam, do you want to say something?

                STATEMENT OF SUHAS SUBRAMANYAM,
                 A REPRESENTATIVE FROM VIRGINIA

    Representative Subramanyam. Thank you so much to my 
colleagues on the Commission for all your leadership. I want to 
sort of home in on one particular issue when it comes to the 
People's Republic of China, and that's the treatment of the 
Uyghurs and other ethnic minorities. This is a campaign 
conducted using digital threats, coercion, and essentially 
taking families hostage to enforce silence here in the United 
States, and co-opting countries to detain exiles. I've heard 
stories firsthand from the Uyghur population in my district. I 
hosted a town hall with members of the Uyghur community last 
year, and the top concern they brought up was transnational 
repression.
    Here's some of what I heard. You know, one quote from 
someone who wanted to remain anonymous was, ``Our families do 
not face abstract threats, but we are enduring active, 
multilayered, state-sponsored transnational repression by the 
Chinese Communist Party right now.'' One Virginian, who many 
here may know, Rushan Abbas, spoke publicly about the mass 
internment camp system back in 2018, and within a week, her 
sister Gulshan was abducted by the Chinese government. She was 
subjected to a secret trial and then sentenced to 20 years in 
prison without any due process. On June 12th, she will be 
turning 64, and this is her eighth birthday in a row spent in 
jail.
    Another constituent of mine shared how the Chinese 
government has also blocked communication between Uyghurs 
abroad and their relatives in China, and used families as 
leverage to prevent Uyghurs from speaking out. He said, ``My 
family and I have not been able to speak with our loved ones 
back home for 10 years. We still do not know what happened to 
them. We've been trying to get information through multiple 
channels, but we have not been able to communicate. My wife, 
who is a U.S. citizen, only learned about her aunt's death in 
China nearly a year after it happened. And my daughter even 
asked if we have any relatives at all, because she can't speak 
to them.''
    It makes people crazy. It makes people sad. It's a terrible 
situation. And I could keep going. We have story after story of 
transnational repression, the silencing of American citizens 
because of what's going on in the Uyghur communities in China. 
And we will continue to speak out about this. We will not be 
silent. And we will certainly give those folks a voice. So 
thank you, and I yield back.
    Co-chair Smith. Before we go to our witnesses, I did want 
to announce--you probably all already know this--that the 
Congressional-Executive Commission on China today released a 
new report on the PRC's transnational repression and malign 
influence. The report documents in highly disturbing detail how 
the Chinese Communist Party continues to extend its long arm 
beyond the Chinese borders. The report is available today. I do 
hope people will read it, use it, hopefully effectively. I want 
to especially thank Deanna Pelsang, Andrew Hartnett, and Rita 
Cheng, as well as our Chief of Staff Scott Flipse, for this 
important report.
    Now I'll go to our witnesses, beginning first with Stephen 
Cox, counsel to the Governor of Alaska. Mr. Cox has served as 
U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Texas and in senior 
roles at the Department of Justice. In Alaska, his work is 
focused on public safety, consumer protection, and PRC-related 
risks, including illegal imports, counterfeit products, and 
technology threats. We are grateful for his perspective on how 
state law enforcement officials can better respond to the 
threats from foreign adversaries.
    Let me say, Mr. Cox, you have a great Senator from Alaska. 
We do thank him for his leadership. We have worked together on 
many Chinese bills, including the FISH Act, which, amazingly, 
he got through the Senate. There have been several hearings, 
and he chaired the last one several months ago, on how the 
Chinese government has taken over fish. Half of all the 
calamari in the world is coming from forced labor with Chinese 
boats. I mean, it's a despicable thing. He has gotten passed a 
comprehensive human rights and real pro-trade bill called the 
FISH Act, and now we're looking to get it out on the House 
floor, his bill, ASAP. So I want to thank the Senator for that.
    We'll then hear from Nebraska State Senator Eliot Bostar. 
Senator Bostar has introduced many bills in Nebraska to protect 
his state from foreign adversary threats, positioning Nebraska 
as a national leader in state-level security policy. One such 
bill, LB 644, was passed in June 2025. That legislation 
included the Crush Transnational Repression in Nebraska Act, 
another bipartisan provision to protect Nebraskans from malign 
influence from foreign countries. The federal government has a 
vital role to play, but states are on the front line as well, 
of this China challenge. And we look forward to hearing from 
him the lessons that Nebraska may offer to all of our states on 
how to combat this.
    Our third witness is Arthur Liu, an attorney from the San 
Francisco Bay area and a longtime advocate for democracy and 
human rights in China. Mr. Liu was a student activist during 
the 1989 pro-democracy movement. He came to the United States 
as a political refugee after the June 4th massacre. He has 
continued his advocacy here, including outside PRC diplomatic 
facilities. His story shows the reach of transnational 
repression. Mr. Liu and his amazing daughter, Olympic gold 
medalist Alysa Liu, were targeted by PRC spying back in 2022 at 
the Winter Olympics. No family in America should live under 
intimidation from a foreign dictatorship. On the anniversary of 
Tiananmen Square, and in great recognition for the 
achievement--I mean, my wife and I watched her performances--
they were amazing. And she got the gold medal, so that's 
fantastic.
    Our final witness is Anna Kwok, a Hong Kong organizer and 
policy analyst based here in Washington. Anna serves as a board 
chair of the Hong Kong Democracy Council, where she supports 
Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement in the United States. She 
has testified before this Commission before, has provided vital 
testimony about human rights conditions in Hong Kong. And, of 
course, we got passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy 
Act, written by this guy over here, [Scott Flipse] our chief of 
staff. It is law. And Anna has been just amazing in what she 
has done there.
    After Beijing imposed the so-called national security law 
on Hong Kong, Anna continued her advocacy publicly, despite 
serious risk. Hong Kong authorities later issued an arrest 
warrant and a bounty against her. Her father was imprisoned as 
retaliation for her work. The Chinese Communist Party wants 
brave men and women like Anna to believe there is no safe place 
to speak the truth, not even in the United States. She is the 
polar opposite of that, because she speaks the truth and does 
so with great grace and courage.
    We thank all of our witnesses. I now yield to Mr. Cox.

                  STATEMENT OF STEPHEN J. COX,
            COUNSEL TO THE GOVERNOR, STATE OF ALASKA

    Mr. Cox. Co-chair Smith and members of the Commission, I 
want to thank you for inviting me to testify today. Thanks in 
particular to Senator Sullivan for inviting me. I know he 
couldn't make it today, but I want to thank the Commission for 
all the work that you have been doing over the last 25 years. I 
appreciate the opportunity to contribute to your good work, 
especially today on June 4th, the 37th anniversary of Tiananmen 
Square. As for me, I stand with the Tank Man.
    My own interest in the broader China threat, particularly 
the threat that it poses to Americans here at home, goes back 
almost 20 years. When I served in the Bush administration at 
the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, I worked 
for the director. We encountered PRC gamesmanship surrounding 
removals and repatriation. And we realized that we were not 
just dealing with an immigration problem. It was an 
intelligence problem.
    During the first Trump administration, I served at the 
Department of Justice under Attorney General Jeff Sessions and 
Attorney General Bill Barr. And they carried on the China 
initiative. And they recognized, we recognized, that the PRC 
challenge touched nearly every dimension of American life, 
especially IP theft and commercial espionage. And most 
recently, when I served as Alaska's 28th attorney general, I 
stood up a counter-China initiative to examine how we could 
respond, using our own consumer protection authorities. That 
work continues in my new capacity as counsel to the Governor.
    To my mind, for the first time, consumers are on the front 
lines of our geopolitical conflict with China. When I say 
consumers, I'm not just talking about families and individuals. 
I'm talking about businesses and governments as well. Virtually 
all of us and our connected technology that we use can become 
an access point. That is where state attorneys general can play 
an important role. Consumer protection laws allow us to pursue 
deception and undisclosed risks, areas where foreign influence 
often hides in plain sight. Alaska's consumer protection laws 
are among the strongest in the 
nation.
    We're actively looking for opportunities to use those 
authorities both on our own and in partnership with attorneys 
general from around the country, including my co-panelist's 
attorney general from Nebraska, Mike Hilgers. Attorney General 
Hilgers, if I can just indulge a little bit, has been a 
national leader in this space using traditional consumer 
protection authorities to address risks involving Chinese-
linked technologies that are sold to American consumers. These 
efforts and others demonstrate that traditional state 
authorities can play an important role in protecting Americans 
from risks that often have a national security dimension.
    Another area of concern, and the focus of today's hearing, 
of course, is transnational repression. We have not seen 
significant reported incidents in Alaska to date, but I would 
caution that this is not the sort of threat that is easy to 
identify without training and awareness. It may look like 
harassment or intimidation, unusual pressure on students, 
deepfakes, or threats directed at relatives overseas, but if 
law enforcement does not know what to look for, it can be 
happening right under our noses. That is why I strongly support 
efforts to educate state and local law enforcement on this 
threat, to train personnel to recognize it, and to coordinate 
closely with our federal authorities and federal partners when 
these situations arise.
    Looking ahead, I believe the next frontier will involve 
closer coordination between attorneys general and 
administrative enforcement agencies, too. One area that has 
drawn my particular attention involves cross-border payment 
platforms and money transmitters operating inside the United 
States. I want to give kudos to Senator Tom Cotton on this 
Commission, who deserves a lot of credit for publicly raising 
concerns about Airwallex with the U.S. Department of Justice, 
and the potential exposure of sensitive American financial data 
to CCP influence or access.
    I share those concerns about Airwallex and this industry 
more broadly, and I have begun to have conversations in Alaska 
about whether our state licensing and regulatory authorities 
should take a harder look at money transmitters that are 
connected to foreign adversary governments. A money transmitter 
license is a privilege. It's not a right. And I believe state 
regulators should be asking whether companies entrusted with 
sensitive financial information can satisfy their state law 
obligations when data, operations, and key personnel may be 
subject to foreign adversary influence.
    States do not need to, and we shouldn't, conduct foreign 
policy to play an important role here. But states can protect 
consumers. States can safeguard critical infrastructure. States 
can ensure that Americans are not unknowingly exposed to 
foreign adversary leverage. That mission resonates particularly 
strongly in a state like Alaska. Alaskans have an express 
constitutional right to privacy, and we take that right very 
seriously. If Alaskans are paying a premium for products and 
services, and we are, they deserve to know what they are 
getting and what risks may come with it. We are also America's 
Arctic state and a Pacific state. We sit at the intersection of 
strategic cargo, telecom, critical minerals, ports, fisheries, 
and Arctic logistics. As a result, many of the threats that we 
might be discussing today are not abstract for us.
    So my message is simple. Many of the Chinese Communist 
Party's threats to Americans increasingly manifest themselves 
through areas traditionally governed by states--public safety, 
consumer protection, licensing, and infrastructure. And because 
of that, states have both the authority and the responsibility 
to act carefully and lawfully and strategically, alongside our 
federal partners. Thank you again for having me, and I welcome 
any questions.
    [The prepared statement of Stephen Cox appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you very much, Mr. Cox, for your 
testimony and insight. I'd like to now yield to Senator Bostar.

                   STATEMENT OF ELIOT BOSTAR,
                     NEBRASKA STATE SENATOR

    Mr. Bostar. Co-chair Smith and honorable members of the 
Commission, thank you for the opportunity to testify today. 
Over the last four years, the Nebraska legislature has passed a 
slate of laws designed to protect Nebraskans from transnational 
repression, safeguard Nebraska's data and critical 
infrastructure, combat malign influence operations, and enhance 
resilience to prepare for conflict. Nebraska is home to the 
U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force Base, as well as 
numerous nuclear missile installations, that make it a target 
for foreign adversaries. However, every state has critical 
industries, infrastructure, and institutions that our 
national security relies on.
    The People's Republic of China is a threat to every state 
and every community in our country. Our work to address the 
threats facing Nebraska from the PRC began when we were alerted 
to Pentagon concerns about the pervasiveness of Huawei 
technology near our critical defense infrastructure. In 2020, 
the U.S. Government took formal action to designate Huawei 
technologies as a threat to national security, but Huawei 
technology was still in use and being newly installed 
throughout Nebraska years later.
    In 2023, we drafted legislation to prohibit 
telecommunications companies from receiving state funds if they 
use or provide communications equipment deemed a national 
security threat. Additionally, telecom companies must annually 
certify that they don't use equipment designated as a threat by 
the FCC. The law also clears redtape obstacles to enhance 
security by stipulating that no additional permits or 
authorization from any state agency or local government will be 
required to remove prohibited equipment.
    Robust lobbying pressure was employed to keep Beijing-
linked technologies in use, but elected officials from both 
parties ultimately rejected this pressure. After this law 
passed, my office was inundated with threat information from 
national security professionals who encouraged us to push 
forward. And we passed several more laws in 2024 to protect 
Nebraska against foreign adversaries. The Foreign-Owned Real 
Estate National Security Act prevents any person, foreign 
government, or entity determined to be a foreign adversary from 
holding land within 10 miles of a military installation, 
including nuclear missile silos. In cases of noncompliance, the 
law provides the Nebraska attorney general with authority to 
force divestment.
    The Pacific Conflict Stress Test Act created a joint 
legislative and executive committee on Pacific conflict to 
assess how a conflict in the Pacific could disrupt and endanger 
Nebraska. The committee meets quarterly to evaluate the state's 
supply chains, export markets, critical infrastructure, and 
security apparatus, and makes recommendations to strengthen 
resilience.
    Last, in 2024 we passed the Foreign Adversary Contracting 
Prohibition Act. The legislation prohibits companies controlled 
by foreign adversaries from procurement contracts involving 
communications technology, network systems, and critical 
infrastructure.
    As we worked to pass these laws, we learned about local 
government officials being contacted by the CCP, and we started 
to hear from victims of transnational repression. Reporting 
emerged regarding an alleged Chinese overseas service station 
operating in Omaha, highlighting the threat of intelligence 
activity and transnational repression within Nebraska. We 
sought to limit the CCP's ability to influence, manipulate, and 
hurt people in our state by introducing the Foreign Adversary 
and Terrorist Agent Registration Act and the Crush 
Transnational Repression in Nebraska Act in 2025.
    The Registration Act illuminates political propaganda and 
influence activities conducted by agents of foreign adversaries 
by requiring that they register with the Nebraska attorney 
general. Any informational material they distribute must be 
notated with a conspicuous statement identifying it as such and 
be submitted to the attorney general within 48 hours. The 
legislation also stipulates that if an individual or entity is 
representing a principal designated by the Pentagon as a 
Chinese military company, they must begin all lobbying 
activities by disclosing that they are representing such a 
company that is a foreign adversary of the United States. 
Violation of this provision results in a $100,000 fine, which 
increases by $100,000 for each subsequent violation, up to a 
maximum fine of $1 million per violation. Any individual who 
provides information leading to a penalty under this act is 
entitled to receive a $50,000 reward from the state.
    The Crush Transnational Repression in Nebraska Act defines 
covered offenses as specific crimes already existing in law 
that will now receive an enhanced charge if the person 
committing the offense is an agent of a foreign principal. This 
legislation also punishes unauthorized foreign law enforcement 
by establishing that an agent of a foreign adversary commits a 
felony by deliberately trying to enforce a foreign government's 
law or rule in Nebraska.
    Our final 2025 reform conformed with what Congress 
accomplished with the BIOSECURE Act and the most recent 
National Defense Authorization Act. Our genetic protection law 
establishes that no medical or research facility shall use any 
genetic sequencer or software for genetic sequencing if such 
device or software is produced in or by a foreign adversary.
    Chinese companies sanctioned by the Pentagon have developed 
some of the world's largest gene banks for the Chinese 
military, supporting potential genetically targeted bioweapons, 
about which senior Chinese military officials have written. 
This law takes every measure possible to cut off Chinese 
military companies from accessing the genetic data of 
Nebraskans, complementing the federal BIOSECURE Act.
    Just this spring, we enacted a new and unique protection 
for critical infrastructure focused on denying foreign 
adversary companies access that could be used for operational 
control or sabotage, either in person or remotely. Furthermore, 
we codified new enhanced penalties for crimes that we define as 
bioterrorism, including bringing in different pathogens for the 
purpose of damaging our farmlands.
    Although each of these pieces of legislation faced 
opposition, we were able to pass them into law with bipartisan 
support. The effects are already visible. Awareness among state 
and local officials has increased significantly. Procurement 
standards have hardened, infrastructure protections have 
expanded, law enforcement coordination has improved, and 
Nebraska now evaluates infrastructure and investment questions 
through a national security framework that simply did not exist 
several years ago. Other states are emulating these models. 
Congressional leaders, executive agencies, and even other 
nations, such as the United Kingdom, have learned from 
different facets of what Nebraska has achieved.
    Most importantly, Nebraska's leadership in combating malign 
foreign influence has demonstrated that states have power and 
responsibility in this space. In fact, both President Biden and 
President Trump have called upon states to lead in driving 
solutions where we are closest to the security risks. We know 
our adversaries are coordinated and adept at attacking us at 
every layer of government. We must be able to defend ourselves 
utilizing this same whole-of-government approach. We must 
strengthen coordination between the states themselves, and 
between the states and the federal government. Our work in 
Nebraska has been made possible with guidance from national 
security experts and practitioners. More established and 
formalized systems of coordination will help us further 
identify vulnerabilities, protect critical assets, and 
contribute fully and comprehensively to the defense of the 
American homeland. Thank you again for this opportunity to 
testify. I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Eliot Bostar appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Co-chair Smith. Senator, thank you for your leadership. 
Thank you for what you are doing in leading the country. I hope 
that 
everybody follows suit. There are some states, like Texas, like 
Utah, Georgia, but far too few. So thank you for that 
leadership.

                   STATEMENT OF ARTHUR LIU, 
                 OWNER, INTER-PACIFIC LAW GROUP

    Mr. Liu. Good afternoon, Co-chair Smith and distinguished 
members of the Commission. Thank you for inviting me to testify 
here today. My name is Arthur Liu. I came to the United States 
as a political refugee back in 1989, after the Tiananmen Square 
massacre. I'm also the proud father of Olympic gold medalist 
Alysa Liu, and four other wonderful children.
    Today is an especially sad day for me. Thirty-seven years 
ago, on June 4th, 1989, the Chinese government sent tanks and 
soldiers to kill students and civilians in Tiananmen Square, 
and also in Beijing. At that time, thousands of students and 
civilians just gathered peacefully to call for democracy, 
freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the rule of law, and 
for basic human rights in China. Thousands of them lost their 
lives, and hundreds more were 
severely injured. At that time, I was in Guangzhou, attending 
graduate school at Zhongshan University. I was one of the 
principal organizers of the democracy movement in Guangzhou, 
China.
    When news of the massacre reached Guangzhou, I was 
devastated. I could not understand and believe how a government 
that claimed to serve the people could turn its weapons against 
its own young people and civilians. In response, I organized 
more protests in Guangzhou against the massacre. Of course, 
soon afterwards I became one of the most wanted democracy 
activists in southern China. I was very fortunate to be able to 
escape from China to Hong Kong. After I came to America, I 
continued to organize protests in front of the Chinese 
consulate in San Francisco and also in front of the Chinese 
Embassy in Washington, D.C., calling upon the Chinese 
government to release political and religious prisoners in 
China. I have spoken publicly many times about the human rights 
abuses in China.
    Like many refugees, I believed that once I arrived in 
America I had left political persecution behind me. But an 
incident in late 2021 proved me wrong. To explain what 
happened, I must tell you a little bit about my daughter, Alysa 
Liu. Alysa recently won two gold medals for the United States 
of America at the 2026 Winter Olympic Games. Before that, she 
became the youngest U.S. women's champion in history when she 
won the U.S. Figure Skating Championship at the ages of 13 and 
14. She set records as the youngest female skater in history to 
ever land a triple Axel in international competition at the age 
of 12. And she was the first female skater in history to have 
landed a triple Axel and a quadruple jump in the same 
competition program. In 2021, it was clear that she was on her 
way to represent the United States of America in the 2022 
Winter Olympic Games in Beijing, China.
    Alysa posted a piece of news about the human rights 
violations in Xinjiang back in 2018, when she was only 12-13 
years old. And I guess the Chinese government never forgot 
about that. And since she was most likely going to Beijing for 
the Olympic Games, I may also be going as well, so they were 
concerned. One day in late October or early November in 2021, I 
received a phone call. The caller identified himself as an 
official from the U.S. Olympic Committee. He told me that he 
was conducting international travel preparedness and needed my 
passport and Alysa's passport. He gave me a fax number for me 
to fax our passports to him. I told him I would do it the next 
day.
    I never did. I was smarter than that. But later on I got a 
phone call. Just a few days later, I got a phone call from the 
FBI. And he told me he needed to meet with me. And I met him at 
a Starbucks. And he told me that a Chinese spy, acting on 
behalf of the Chinese government, was already in the San 
Francisco Bay area. That was in early November 2021. He would 
be tracking my movements. He would be surveilling my daily 
activities. He would be placing a GPS tracker on my car. And he 
would try to collect our personal information, like Social 
Security numbers, and particularly our passport information. 
The FBI told me to watch out for my surroundings and be 
careful.
    I was very worried when I heard the news, because Alysa was 
most likely going to Beijing. And I was also concerned that the 
spy might do something to her in the United States. At that 
time, Alysa was competing in Japan. So the next day, when she 
came back to America, I took her away from the San Francisco 
Bay area to another location for training. As we were boarding 
the plane I received a phone call from the FBI. He told me that 
the spy was right on his way to our house. I couldn't believe 
it. It was like a scene right out of a movie. It could not have 
been so coincidental that we were boarding the plane and the 
spy was right on his way to our house.
    The FBI agent informed me that they were ready to arrest 
those spies acting on behalf of the Chinese government at that 
time, but as a father I was terrified for the safety of Alysa 
when she goes to Beijing to compete for the United States of 
America. So I told them, can you please wait until she comes 
back from the Olympic Games? And the FBI said yes. I also 
requested additional security for Alysa. When she was in 
Beijing she was accompanied at all times by two adults, from 
venue to venue throughout the Olympic Games. On March 16th, 
2022, the Department of Justice announced criminal charges 
against the spies. One of them was 
Matthew Ziburis, the guy who called me posing as an official 
from the U.S. Olympic Committee, and who spied on me in the San 
Francisco Bay area.
    When the news came out, a neighbor from my office came over 
and told me that he had seen this guy, Matthew Ziburis, many 
times. He was lingering in the lobby right in front of my 
office. And of course, Matthew Ziburis was charged, along with, 
I believe, four other people in the spying on me and also on 
another dissident from China, and an artist in Los Angeles. I'm 
really grateful to the FBI agents who provided security for me 
and also my daughter. And I appreciate that the U.S. Government 
took forceful action to prosecute those spies to the fullest 
extent under the law.
    But America cannot stop there. We can't just prosecute 
them. We must understand that not just me, a political 
dissident from China, the Uyghurs, or the people from Hong 
Kong, we have to understand we will not be safe--America will 
not be safe--until China becomes a democracy. We must 
understand China must have a government which respects basic 
human rights and that honors the rule of law. We must also 
understand that America will not be safe until people all over 
the world can live peacefully and harmoniously together. We 
have a lot of work to do in America. Thank you for inviting me 
to testify here today. I look forward to answering your 
questions.
    Co-chair Smith. Mr. Liu, thank you for your testimony, your 
courage, and again, congratulations on such a fine performance 
by your daughter. To think that something that she wrote when 
she was very young would still be in the hands of the Chinese 
Communist Party to intimidate and threaten, again underscores 
the pervasiveness of this dictatorship. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Arthur Liu appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Anna Kwok.

                    STATEMENT OF ANNA KWOK,

         BOARD DIRECTOR AND FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,

                  HONG KONG DEMOCRACY COUNCIL

    Ms. Kwok. Members of the Commission, thank you for inviting 
me to share my experience as a target of intensifying 
transnational repression in the United States. In this battle 
against the Chinese Communist Party, a regime that fears 
opposition, feeling safe is a privilege. I am among hundreds of 
thousands of rights defenders in America who live every single 
day knowing we're being watched and threatened. All incidents 
of transnational repression I share today took place on 
American soil. Together, they illustrate the varied tactics of 
a transnational repression campaign.
    I served as the executive director of the Hong Kong 
Democracy Council, a U.S. advocacy organization sanctioned by 
the PRC. In May 2023, after I testified before this very 
Commission on the loss of Hong Kong's political autonomy and 
its implications for the U.S., the regime swiftly retaliated by 
issuing a HK$1 million bounty on my head. My assets were frozen 
and my passport was revoked, crippling my international 
advocacy work. More bounties were also later issued on American 
citizens and residents.
    The bounty put a huge target on my back. State media, pro-
CCP extremists, and individual propagandists launched a 
coordinated campaign to discourage the American public from 
associating with me. Explicit threats to hurt, kidnap, rape, 
and even execute me on American soil flooded my social media. 
The lawfare and digital threats became physical in November 
2023, during Chinese leader Xi Jinping's visit to the United 
States. When I organized protests against Xi and campaigned 
successfully to bar the sanctioned chief executive of Hong Kong 
from entering the country, the regime decided to retaliate on 
the streets of San Francisco.
    Masked men assaulted fellow protesters with metal poles, 
while WeChat groups circulated my whereabouts on the streets of 
San Francisco. I escaped physical harm only because fellow 
protesters protected me. Local police were completely oblivious 
to the existence of transnational repression and refused to 
intervene. To this day, none of the perpetrators, including 
American nationals, have been convicted. For the first time I 
felt as if I had been transported back to the lawless streets 
of Hong Kong; even though I was in the land of the free, I was 
not free.
    The online campaign and real-life violence achieved a 
chilling effect across America. Some supporters of the pro-
democracy movement stopped showing up to events. A few went as 
far as to erase their digital footprints. Their response is all 
too familiar. It happened once in my first home in Hong Kong, 
and it is now happening again in my second home in America. 
Nonetheless, I 
refused to back down. I led a campaign to expose the foreign 
influence and transnational threats brought by the Hong Kong 
Economic and Trade Offices. In response, the regime unleashed 
its cruelest weapon, psychological warfare.
    Last May the regime arrested my father in Hong Kong. He was 
later convicted on fabricated charges. The state-run trial 
centered on an insurance policy my father had purchased when I 
was just a 2-year-old learning to say ``papa.'' My father is 
imprisoned simply because he is my father. He's now a hostage 
serving a sentence for crimes neither of us committed. The CCP 
weaponized my love for my family in an attempt to silence me 
forever. I speak to you today as my 70-year-old father sits in 
a cell 8,000 miles away. I speak as someone with a HK$1 million 
bounty on my head. I speak as a target of rampant transnational 
repression, and I speak as someone who is standing my ground to 
combat an urgent threat to American national security.
    When a hostile foreign power launches centralized efforts--
spanning state agencies, united front groups, and individual 
extremists--to silence people inside the U.S., the government 
must respond with centralized, coordinated mechanisms. That's 
why I urge Congress, in particular the House Foreign Affairs 
Committee and Senate Foreign Relations Committee, to mark up 
the bipartisan Transnational Repression Policy Act immediately. 
Passing this legislation will provide a bedrock for building 
long-term cross-agency mechanisms that are necessary to protect 
America.
    This is a litmus test for the country. If the U.S. does not 
draw a hard line and act quickly, the PRC will continue to push 
our boundaries, from running secret police stations to co-
opting state officials. States like Nebraska and Utah are 
gearing up to protect their people, and the nation should get 
ahead, too. We must confront the threat of transnational 
repression urgently, before it becomes a normalized pattern 
that cannot be undone. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Anna Kwok appears in the 
Appendix.]
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    Co-chair Smith. Anna, thank you very much for your bravery 
and testimony, bearing witness to an ugly truth that you are 
facing every day. You did say the word ``intensifying,'' 
clearly denoting or conveying that it's getting worse. You 
know, Xi Jinping will be coming here again soon. We tried very 
hard when he came last time for the APEC summit, and it was, 
like--and when you say the local police were oblivious to what 
was actually happening on the ground, that's got to change, and 
a federal law could help that. The state laws obviously help 
it, with your own state police and other law enforcement 
assets, but it seems to me that we--I'm sure you will agree, we 
need a federal law.
    I have asked Chairman Mast to mark up the bill. I thought 
it might be up at our last markup, which just occurred, and it 
was not on there. I argued--as it turned out, not 
persuasively--to do so. So I'm taking all of your testimony 
back to the Chairman--and he's a good man, Chairman Mast--and 
his staff, and say, This has got to happen. It's got to happen 
now. The sooner it happens the better, especially--and we saw 
it in San Francisco, the way so many people--I had hearings 
then, and had press conferences, as you know, pointing out how 
brutal the people were, some of them seemingly coming out of 
the trade mission there. I have a bill that would close that 
thing down, but that too passed the House, never got through 
the Senate. Here we go again with that reprise. So we need this 
bill. I'm sure you all agree with that, so we will push really, 
really hard. It's got to be done before Xi Jinping comes again, 
because that will be the pivot catalyst for them to unleash 
hell on the best and the bravest and the brightest who have 
come here from China. And many of those, obviously, are still 
in China, their family members.
    You did say, Mr. Bostar, that with regard to the 
legislation, Senator, that there was some opposition. It's 
faced opposition. Who was against what you guys were doing?
    Mr. Bostar. Thank you, sir, for the question. We've faced 
opposition from a number of sources, but what tends to be 
utilized the most in Nebraska is primarily corporate-aligned 
opposition, linked to Chinese interests and corporations. And I 
think fundamentally that's mostly the case because they have 
the most robust lobbying presence in the state. We see that 
consistently, businesses themselves that are linked to China as 
well as the associations that they belong to, consistently 
trying to fight progress when it comes to guarding against CCP 
threats.
    One example I'll use and give you that was sort of shocking 
at the time--Nebraska is, obviously, a pretty significant 
agricultural state. When we were attempting to pass our foreign 
adversary registration requirements into law, we received 
thinly veiled threats from Smithfield, which is owned by the 
Chinese now, that if we went through with this and passed these 
bills that there was the potential that they could shut down 
operations, disrupting the economy of Nebraska certainly, as 
well as the food supply for the United States. So that's just 
one example that we faced, but we faced many.
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you for persevering. You know, I 
would just--back in 1994 I was one of those who led the effort 
to link most favored nation status with trade to China. Bill 
Clinton, sadly, de-linked human rights and trade on May 26, 
1994. But on one trip to Beijing I met with the U.S. Chamber of 
Commerce, and I couldn't believe how kowtowing they were to the 
Chinese dictatorship to get the next deal.
    That goes for Microsoft and Bill Gates and all these other 
people who--anything to get the next deal and to continue 
their--we had Enes Freedom testify here, and talked about how 
the NBA just threw him out because he spoke about the Uyghurs. 
Again, another brave man--a great basketball player, but a 
brave man. And he lost it all. He lost his whole career. And he 
says some of his fellow NBAers wanted to support him, but they 
said, we can't. We don't want to lose, you know, that NBA slot 
that we have. And so it's--you know, it's amazing how corporate 
America just capitulates so easily under the false impression 
that somehow China will matriculate from a dictatorship to a 
democracy if we just trade more. No. They'll become a more 
aggressive power with more capability, command and control, 
right on down the line, if we give them all that capacity, 
which they've gotten.
    You know, Chris Cox, you all recall, the former Member of 
Congress, did an amazing report back in the 1990s about how all 
the dual-use items that they were procuring that had a--
ostensibly a civilian purpose, but also a very serious military 
purpose. So thank you for persevering against all of that 
pressure. But we've got to get a federal law and get more 
states to do the same with their laws, and to resist that 
pressure because it has been shameful how the almighty buck 
has--you know, you hold a dollar in front of some of these 
corporations--I had people that were part of the U.S. Chamber 
of Commerce in Beijing telling me they have full religious 
freedom here. I said, really? If you believe that, I'll sell 
you the Brooklyn Bridge. It just does not happen. Thank you for 
doing that.
    You know, you did say, Mr. Cox, about--suggested that the 
central point is that consumers are on the front lines of the 
geopolitical conflict with China--phones, apps, routers, 
cameras, payment platforms, cloud services, and connected 
services can become access points for PRC-linked data 
collection and leverage. Doesn't McAfee, and some of the things 
that we all buy--I have McAfee--does that not protect against 
that? Or are we being naive and somehow they could easily 
pierce that and get whatever they want?
    Mr. Cox. Thank you for the question. I wouldn't purport to 
be an expert on that kind of a question, but I will say that I 
do think that the Chinese are technologically very advanced. 
And a lot of times our defenses are just keeping up with the 
black hats. So I think it's right to be concerned. I think this 
is why I think state AGs, like Attorney General Hilgers, and 
Attorney General Paxton, and Attorney General Uthmeier have 
teamed up to target some of these consumer protection 
violations, where this technology has potential kill switches 
and back doors that allow information that belongs to American 
citizens to go back to China. And we know that China has 
certain laws, like the National Intelligence Law of 2017, that 
require, with severe penalties, cooperation by Chinese 
companies and individuals to cooperate with intelligence 
services like that, on command. And so I think it's right to 
look into this, to investigate, and to bring righteous cases. 
And we intend to do that in Alaska.
    Co-chair Smith. Are we deploying a sufficient number of 
federal assets, FBI for example, to combat this? Or do we need 
to beef this up significantly?
    Mr. Cox. I'll take that. Thank you for the question. I 
can't--I've worked with the FBI over the course of my career. I 
worked on the Fort Hood Commission with Judge Webster. I've 
worked for five state and federal law enforcement agencies over 
the course of my career. And I've never known a law enforcement 
agency to refuse more resources and more investigative 
resources. So, though I can't speak for the FBI, I suspect that 
they would love to do more with more resources.
    Co-chair Smith. Yes, Anna.
    Ms. Kwok. I would agree with Mr. Cox there, that the FBI 
definitely would appreciate more resources. And in my previous 
experience from working with the FBI, I've also noticed that 
there have not been enough resources being put into 
investigating the foreign influence and transnational 
repression into the United States. And often civil society has 
to also help share reports and research results with the FBI, 
just because they do not have adequate time or resources to 
conduct their own research. But of course, there is certain 
information or intelligence that we're not able to get from 
civil society. So if the FBI would be able to dedicate more 
resources into investigating transnational repression and 
foreign influence, I'm sure it will help protect American 
national security.
    Co-chair Smith. Let me just ask you, if I could, about AI, 
which is transforming, seemingly, everything. What additional 
threat does that pose? Just--this was not related to the 
Chinese, as far as we know--but just yesterday my top sheriff 
told me how some boys took pictures of two girls, 14 years old, 
13 years old, and then created a whole sex scenario with them. 
You know, it was all AI, but it's devastating. They found the 
kids, the two boys, and they arrested them, and they'll be 
prosecuted. I know in Europe and elsewhere that's being done 
now to diaspora and human rights advocates. Again, another 
devastating way of trying to demoralize and hurt people who 
speak out. How bad is that right now? And do you see that 
getting worse?
    Ms. Kwok. The CCP definitely uses artificial intelligence 
to further repression on diasporas around the world and rights 
defenders. For example, my fellow activists, Carmen Lau in the 
UK, and Laura Harth, they are both being targeted with 
deepfakes generated by AI, and with explicit images and videos 
that are used to defame them. And I think that is a very 
devastating development, especially for women defenders in this 
space.
    At the same time, we are also seeing more impersonation 
attempts getting more sophisticated to try to conduct phishing, 
identity theft, and to procure information from the human 
rights community. For example, my colleagues would often now 
receive emails impersonating myself with very sophisticated 
methods that sound like me and write like me, in order to get 
more information.
    And, last but not least, we're also seeing the rise of AI 
being used to generate propaganda materials on social media. 
With the use of AI, the CCP is able to now generate more 
materials that are dedicated to talking to the American public, 
to get into the rhetoric, and to form better narratives, or 
more effective narratives, in bringing false information to the 
United States.
    Co-chair Smith. Yesterday Marco Rubio testified before the 
Foreign Affairs Committee. And I asked him--we don't get much 
time. As you know, you get five minutes. I asked him about 
Jimmy Lai, I asked him a few other questions, and I did so--
even more so privately. I asked him to help us get the Stop 
Forced Organ Harvesting Act passed. It passed 406 to 1 in the 
House last year. It passed in the Congress before that. You 
know, it's my bill. It's one of the most serious human rights 
abuses imaginable, and it's being done--it's hiding in plain 
sight. We just can't seem to get it out of the Senate, but 
we're trying, and we're hopeful.
    But if Marco were sitting here, and he used to sit right 
here. He co-chaired this Commission and did so--like the 
current Senator from Alaska--with great distinction. And I mean 
that. You know, we've got a great co-chair here. He brings an 
intel capacity and an understanding of Taiwan and elsewhere 
like no other that I know. He is just amazing, and he would 
have wanted to be here, but he just couldn't make it, but he 
sends his best. But what would you tell the President and Marco 
Rubio, again, on the eve of what will be another summit soon, 
and this is when the planning goes into it to try to make sure 
that everything we can do to mitigate Xi Jinping's cruelty is 
tried. What would you say to the President and to Marco?
    Mr. Cox. Thank you for the question. I'll say this, and 
this is a point that I think you have made at this hearing and 
others. There are certainly things that the states can do, but 
nothing speaks more loudly than federal action. And that can 
mean executive action, and it can mean legislative action. You 
know, the awareness about Huawei and the telecom threat 
increased a lot based on what was done with Huawei. The 
prosecution of the spies that targeted Mr. Liu, that increases 
awareness. Legislation that would also arm state and local law 
enforcement with the training and capabilities to spot the 
transnational repression behind some of these otherwise 
ordinary crimes would be very helpful. And all of that is 
federal.
    Mr. Liu. Thank you for that question, Mr. Smith. You know, 
I would tell President Trump and Secretary of State Rubio that 
the United States must take a tougher stand against the CCP's 
transnational repression and also against their human rights 
violations. I would call upon them to urge the Chinese 
government to release all political prisoners, including Mr. 
Bingzhang Wang. He has been in prison in China for over 20 
years. And I would urge Mr. Rubio and President Trump to call 
for the release of Jimmy Lai and other political prisoners in 
Hong Kong. And really push them to come to the international 
stage as a civil society, as a government which respects basic 
human rights and the rule of law. I think this is another 
opportunity--to be honest with you, without any political 
prisoners released with President Trump's visit in China--to 
bring those major issues up in the next visit. Thank you.
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you.
    Ms. Kwok. First, I would like to thank Secretary Rubio and 
President Trump for commemorating June 4th in Hong Kong. 
Because today we saw that the U.S. consulate in Hong Kong 
lighted candles in a place where vigils are no longer allowed. 
And for
Hong Kong, currently we have 1,946 political prisoners. I want 
to
urge President Trump to seriously consider calling for the 
release
of Jimmy Lai, Chow Hang-tung, and other Hong Kong political
prisoners.
    At the same time, the upcoming visit, where Xi would be 
visiting D.C., it would be the perfect opportunity to establish 
better TNR response. The last time Xi was in the United States, 
we have seen how it really opened up the devastating can of 
transnational repression. And once they widened the scope and 
widened the possibility of transnational repression, it was 
hard to push back. This would be the perfect opportunity for 
the United States to push back, to set, actually, better 
protocols for foreign visits, for diplomats who will be on the 
scene, and for Chinese nationals here in the United States, on 
how to behave, how to respect human rights, and how not to 
conduct transnational repression against people here on 
American soil.
    Co-chair Smith. Let me just ask you what your view might be 
of what people inside of China understand, especially today, 
being the remembrance of the Tiananmen Square massacre. I've 
met with many students who come visiting, including at the high 
school level, who say the Tiananmen Square massacre never 
happened. If you Google over there, and I went to one of their 
internet cafes once and googled ``Tiananmen Square massacre'' 
and got nothing. I googled ``human rights'' and I got 
everything about--it was during the Bush administration--how 
bad he was, but nothing about there. And I even put in 
``torture,'' because Manfred Nowak, who was then the special 
rapporteur for torture for the United Nations, had done a 
scathing report about the use of torture in China. So I put his 
name in, and it came up with everything but China.
    Is there really a serious lack of any kind of information 
in this culture of denial that they live in, perpetrated by the 
government, that they don't even know this stuff is happening, 
or happened, past tense? Because it's just--I met with a group 
of high school students at a school in my state who said I was 
lying about Tiananmen Square. And then this--as I might have 
indicated--Chi Haotian, who was the butcher of Beijing, who 
ordered the actual bayoneting and killing, he came to this 
country, went down to the Clinton White House. He got a 19-gun 
salute, because by then he had been elevated to head of their 
Department of Defense, the equivalent of our defense secretary, 
got a 19-gun salute. I said he should have been taken to The 
Hague for crimes against humanity.
    So we did a hearing. He goes to the Army War College and 
says nobody died at Tiananmen Square. And all over, you know, 
the Global Times, the People's Daily, because I read the 
English versions, were extolling how he had said all this. And 
I had a hearing two days after he said it. We had all these 
witnesses, most of whom were Chinese witnesses, who said it did 
happen. The Time magazine correspondent who watched people die. 
But he got away with it. You know, Clinton himself should have 
said: Hey, pal, a lot of people died at Tiananmen Square. 
Quit--you know, don't lie about this, because if you lie about 
this, what else are you lying about?
    But they did lie. But I'm really concerned that it's as if 
it never happened, which is so important. And in Hong Kong, of 
course, they crushed the remembrances there, and of course 
throughout the rest of China. How do we get that through to the 
people as to what has happened in the past and what is 
happening today?
    Anna.
    Ms. Kwok. China, or the Chinese Communist Party, certainly 
excels in twisting history and twisting narratives. And right 
now, I would say there is currently an ongoing war on 
narratives and discourse between the U.S. and democracies 
around the world vs. China. Every single day I go on social 
media, and I see China spreading misinformation and 
disinformation about history, about what has happened, and 
especially on June 4th, today. In Hong Kong we are also hearing 
rumors that, starting next year, textbooks will no longer be 
allowed to mention, you know, even one line on June 4th. As of 
now, Hong Kong is not even allowing people to hold candles on 
the streets of Hong Kong.
    This morning, or last night, we saw news in Hong Kong where 
the police were actually stationed on street corners in Hong 
Kong, waiting to arrest people who dare to just walk around, 
who dared to just express themselves with very creative art, 
and who dared to just share symbols of June 4th, no matter how 
implicit. So we're seeing that China is really being very harsh 
and zoning in on canceling or on erasing any moments of 
history, any memories of history. And that reminds me of a 
scholar currently in the United States, Rowena He, who 
specializes and extensively discusses the importance of 
remembering the Tiananmen massacre.
    Because it goes beyond just the Tiananmen massacre. It is 
about remembering the atrocities of this regime. It is about 
remembering the present crimes conducted by this regime. And it 
is, most importantly, remembering the people who have been 
sacrificing to fight for democracy and human rights in China. 
So I urge the United States and the American public to remember 
what has happened on June 4th of 1989, but also be cognizant of 
what is happening today on American soil. Thank you.
    Co-chair Smith. I have one final question. And, again, 
thank you for your time, your expertise, and above all your 
leadership. The Chinese Students and Scholars Associations and 
other PRC-linked campus groups, there's talk of, you know, 
further networking with them. We saw it with the Confucius 
Centers, which were nothing but soft power instruments by the 
Chinese Communist Party. But in 2015 I chaired a hearing with 
NYU Chancellor Jeffrey Lehman, and I raised the issue about 
complicity with the Chinese propaganda organs--you know, they 
were gifted a campus in Shanghai. Imagine that, a whole campus.
    And yet they were charging an exorbitant amount of money 
for tuition. I asked him, who picks the students, the Chinese 
Communist Party? What's the selection process? If you're 
online, what can you go and visit? Can you talk about the Dalai 
Lama? I don't think so. All those things I asked him. And I 
also invited myself to go speak. And I actually got a visa. And 
he had me there to speak. And I always appreciated that. But 
it's the complicity of many of our institutions of higher 
learning to gain access. One of the most infamous of all was 
back in the early 1980s when Steven Mosher at Stanford 
University, broke the news about the one child per couple 
policy and the use of forced abortion, and the fact that the 
government decreed brothers and sisters illegal. And that even 
with the one, you had to get permission from the Communist 
Party to have that baby. Otherwise, you're forcibly aborted.
    I did a number of bills that passed in the House, some in 
the Senate, to defund any organization, like the U.N. 
Population Fund, which was getting a great deal of money, and 
Reagan was all for it, and we did just that. Trump has done the 
same thing again with the U.N. Population Fund and others. But 
meanwhile, Stanford, which is where Steven Mosher was earning 
his doctorate, threw him over the side. They threw him out. As 
a matter of fact, it was so bad that the Wall Street Journal 
did a piece that said, ``Stanford Morality'' and talked about 
how he had been disenfranchised from the university because he 
broke a story that they didn't want to have to deal with 
because they wanted access.
    So my question is, Are we seeing any improvement on the 
part of our colleges and universities to the mega threat that 
the Communist Party poses, how they can be manipulated and 
used, you know, the information transfer that is applicable to 
their military? You know, at the state level you gentlemen are 
doing tremendous work, but we need to do more, seems to me, on 
the federal level on all of this as well. But I keep asking our 
universities, stop partnering with these individuals. Now, if 
they were free, partner away, but they're not. It's a 
dictatorship. And again, anything they glean technology-wise is 
going right into their military-industrial complex. So if 
anybody would want to take a stab at that, on the universities.
    Mr. Bostar. Thank you for that. In Nebraska we're certainly 
making progress on the university front, as far as attempting 
to decouple where we can with those specific programs. But I 
think your question brings up a broader challenge that we face 
with all of this, which is it's always inconvenient to do what 
we need to do. Whether or not universities are being gifted a 
new campus, or whether or not Chairman Xi is coming to the 
United States, and not wanting to disrupt a possible deal, 
there's always a reason why it's the wrong time to do what we 
should do. And it's exactly for that purpose that we have to 
resist that. We have to take the actions now.
    It was never convenient for us in Nebraska to pass the 
bills we did, to create the laws we did, to create the 
structures of accountability on the CCP, because there are 
costs. There are political costs. There are economic costs. 
We've allowed ourselves to become so dependent and integrated 
on our adversaries that it is painful to do what we need to do 
and separate ourselves. But it's required, because there's 
never going to be a convenient time to do it. And so, yes, I 
think we're making that progress, but there is so much more 
that we have to do.
    Ms. Kwok. Co-chair Smith, I'm actually an alumnus from New 
York University. And I have a story to share. Back in 2019, 
during the pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong, I tried to 
organize a protest at NYU in support of people on the streets, 
as an anonymous organizer. And initially, we were only 
expecting a few dozen Hong Kongers to show up in solidarity, 
but in the end hundreds of people showed up. And these hundreds 
of people were not supportive of what we did. Instead, they 
were students, faculty members, people, members recruited by 
the CSSA on campus at New York University.
    When they had such an overwhelming number of people, they 
encircled us, they started taking photos of us, and, at the 
time, even though I was fully anonymous, they tried to identify 
me and dox me online, circulating our photos, videos on WeChat 
groups to try to find out which student this is, what classes 
they were taking, trying to trace where we lived, and things 
like that. And very unfortunately, this was not the only time I 
encountered a CSSA. In 2023, when I was in San Francisco, as I 
talked about before, for the APAC summit, once again CSSA was 
mobilized. And this time at the San Francisco protest, many 
Chinese nationals were mobilized to support Xi Jinping. And 
among all the groups that were on the ground, the CSSA actually 
mobilized the majority of them.
    They managed to get thousands of Chinese students traveling 
to San Francisco from Los Angeles, from other areas of 
California to support Xi Jinping, and to show that China is the 
kind of leader they wanted, which, of course, we know is a lie. 
And even though they were not the most hostile crowd,they 
definitely were the largest crowd. And we also found evidence 
that the CSSA actually promised paid meals and accommodations, 
telling students that they could just go to San Francisco for a 
trip, while in reality it was for propaganda. And it was also 
for intimidating people like us. So I would say that for higher 
institutions the existence of these Chinese Students and 
Scholars Associations is definitely a problem.
    And the issue that they are still present in the United 
States allows the Chinese government plenty of apparatuses for 
them to spy on and surveil students in America, including Hong 
Kong students in America who are merely trying to express 
themselves. So that's why I urge higher institutions to really 
reconsider their partnership with the Chinese government and 
also reconsider the existence of CSSAs on campus while there 
has been plenty of evidence that they are acting as adversaries 
of American institutions and the government.
    Co-chair Smith. To follow up on those students that flocked 
into San Francisco, was there any element of coercion--you 
know, to their families back home, you do this or else? Or was 
it more that they were ideologically simpatico with the Chinese 
Communist Party--naive, perhaps--or what? I mean, or they're 
getting a free trip?
    Ms. Kwok. Yes. I would say the majority of them actually 
are more naive. They're thinking that they're getting a free 
trip, it doesn't really matter if they go, they're just 
standing there waving flags. That's what we observed the most 
from their WeChat groups. But at the same time there were also 
definitely ideologues who would go out of their way to really 
shout at us on the streets, or try to intimidate us with the 
number of people they have. And I think even though they are 
naive, as we have said in the earlier remarks, sometimes in the 
end you have to pick a side--always, as you said. It's either 
with the Tank Man or with the tanks. And I think for them, 
being naive doesn't excuse them from the fact that they are 
deciding to associate with the tanks.
    Mr. Liu. I just want to add that, from a diplomatic point 
of view, we must engage the Chinese government, whether it's 
higher education in America, or whether it's the government, or 
businesses. I strongly encourage them to engage in China, deal 
with China. But at the same time we have to take a very strong 
position against human rights violations, and for the release 
of political prisoners. We can't isolate China. We have to 
change China. Thank you.
    Co-chair Smith. Could states do more on this?
    Mr. Bostar. I think the short answer is yes. Several states 
have done a lot. Most states have done something. Some states 
have done nothing. But no state has done enough, and so we need 
to be more strategic and coordinated with our actions. We often 
find ourselves--you know, I talk to my legislative colleagues 
from across the country. We spend, frankly, too much time 
reinventing the wheel. We need better mechanisms of 
coordinating among ourselves, and we also need better 
mechanisms of coordinating between the states and the federal 
government.
    You know, this is a policy area that for too long was left 
simply to the federal government. And because of that, and 
because it's more novel and it's newer for subnational 
political entities to be engaging in this, we don't yet have 
the necessary connective tissue to allow for this to be done as 
efficiently as possible. And so we need to be deliberate about 
developing those relationships and creating those systems and 
partnerships to allow us to really do what we have to do and 
move forward.
    Co-chair Smith. To conclude, I just hope and pray, and want 
to let you know, if there's anything we can do--especially Anna 
and Arthur--with regard to the ongoing threats that you 
receive, maybe as a result of testifying today. And Anna, as 
you know, this is not your first time. You are just incredibly 
brave; we will do everything we can. So if there's someone, the 
FBI, or otherwise, that we need to further alert to all of 
this--because again, these people are brutal. They are 
absolutely brutal.
    I would reiterate my request to the Chinese Communist Party 
to allow me to lead a delegation to Xinjiang. I'd love to stop 
in Hong Kong as well and visit prisoners there. You know, even 
during the worst of the Soviet days, because I've been here 
since 1981, Frank Wolf and I--Congressman from Virginia--got 
into Perm Camp 35 in the early 1980s, where Sharansky and all 
of those great political prisoners were, a thousand miles 
outside of Moscow in the Ural Mountains. We talked to the 
procurator general at a big human rights conference. He said, 
Nothing to hide. We said we wanted to go to the Perm Camp. It 
took two years, but we got there. We interviewed every 
prisoner, and one by one, we got prisoners out. And then, of 
course, the Soviet Union fell, and they all got out.
    But in terms of China, the foreign ministry said anybody 
who wants to go to Xinjiang can go there. So they were already 
attacking my Stop Forced Organ Harvesting Act at the embassy 
right here in town. Really, all lies, lies. No, the lies are on 
your side. But then they also, almost the same week--it was the 
same week--said anybody who wants to go there can go. We did a 
letter immediately saying, We want to go. We want to go. We've 
asked repeatedly. So I'm asking again from the dais here, 
knowing that they'll hear this. I want to lead a delegation, I 
want it to be bipartisan, to go to Xinjiang, to go to the 
camps, to raise these issues, and to do so very, you know, 
professionally. Talk to prisoners without any fear of 
retaliation, and all of that. So the request is, again, 
requested. Because they already said, We have nothing to hide--
anybody can come. And we've been denied.
    Thank you. Is there anything you want to add before we 
close? I don't want to keep you longer than--your testimony was 
outstanding. Helps us to do more. You're helping the cause 
mightily. The hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 3:07 p.m., the hearing ended.]




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                   Prepared Statement of Stephen Cox

    Chairman Sullivan, members of the Commission--thank you for 
inviting me to testify today, and thank you for the work this 
Commission has done over these 25 years. I appreciate the opportunity 
to contribute to that work.
    My own interest in the China threat--particularly the threat it 
poses to Americans here at home--goes back almost 20 years.
    Early in my career, during the Bush administration, I served in the 
Director's Office at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. One of 
the recurring challenges we dealt with involved the Chinese 
government's gamesmanship in repatriating Chinese nationals who had 
been ordered removed under our immigration laws. At the time, we did 
not see this simply as an immigration problem. We saw it partly as an 
intelligence problem--because of the way the PRC leveraged overseas 
networks, influence relationships, and diaspora connections inside the 
United States.
    Fast forward to my service during the first Trump administration at 
the Department of Justice. Attorney General Jeff Sessions launched, and 
AG Bill Barr continued, the China Initiative because DOJ increasingly 
recognized that the PRC challenge touched nearly every dimension of 
American life: intellectual property theft, espionage, cyber 
intrusions, economic coercion, higher education, infrastructure, 
research institutions, supply chains, and influence operations.
    When I moved to Texas in 2020 to become U.S. Attorney for the 
Eastern District of Texas, it was a few months later that the State 
Department shut down the Chinese Consulate in Houston after determining 
that it had become a hub for espionage, intellectual property theft, 
and influence operations directed against the United States. The 
closure was a stark reminder that the PRC threat was not an abstract 
foreign-policy concern overseas--it was operating on American soil, 
targeting American institutions, businesses, and citizens.
    Most recently, as the 28th Attorney General of Alaska, I began 
standing up what we called a Counter-China Initiative--to consider an 
all-of-government approach to threats posed by the PRC to consumers, 
businesses, infrastructure, and public institutions in Alaska. And in 
my current role as Counsel to the Governor, I intend to continue and 
expand that work with the new Acting Attorney General and across other 
state agencies.
    To my mind, for the first time, consumers are on the front lines of 
our geopolitical conflict with China, and many of the CCP's threats to 
Americans now arrive through ordinary consumer channels. And when I say 
consumers, I mean not only families, but businesses and governments as 
well. Every phone, app, router, camera, payment platform, and cloud 
service can potentially become an access point. We know in a 
theoretical sense how Beijing's access to massive amounts of American 
data could create a problem. A November article from the Financial 
Times gave one specific example: that a large Chinese technology 
company was providing American data to China's military in order to 
help them target Americans. This weaponized usage of American data gets 
directly at the threat of transnational repression which we are 
discussing today. State attorneys general are uniquely positioned 
because consumer protection laws allow us to pursue deception, data 
abuse, undisclosed risks, and unfair trade practices--areas where 
foreign influence often hides in plain sight.
    Alaska's consumer protection laws are among the strongest in the 
country, and I believe consumer protection is one of the most powerful 
state-level tools available to address aspects of the Chinese threat. 
We are actively looking for opportunities to use those authorities--
both on our own and in partnership with other strong attorneys general 
around the country, like Nebraska Attorney General Mike Hilgers, 
Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier, and Texas Attorney General Ken 
Paxton.
    General Hilgers has been a national leader in this space. His 
office has pursued actions involving allegedly deceptive data-
collection practices by Chinese-linked technology platforms and has 
also taken action involving connected camera and surveillance 
technologies sold to American consumers. General Paxton has also been a 
leader here. Texas currently has open claims against TP-Link, the 
largest router provider in America, along with Chinese television 
producers, camera companies, and mobile app providers. These efforts 
demonstrate that traditional consumer-protection authorities can play 
an important role in protecting Americans from risks that often have a 
national-security dimension.
    We approached the China threat from another angle in Alaska. We 
became concerned about the flood of Chinese vape products entering 
American markets outside normal FDA review and approval processes. Many 
were marketed aggressively to younger consumers, with little 
transparency regarding sourcing, ingredients, or safety. The FDA has 
primary authority here, but we took steps to educate businesses and 
consumers about these risks that consumers, frankly, weren't aware of.
    Another area of concern from a public safety perspective--and the 
focus of today's hearing--is transnational repression. We have not seen 
significant reported incidents in Alaska to date. But I would also 
caution that this is not the sort of threat that is easy to identify 
without training and awareness. That's because if you do not know what 
to look for, it could be happening right in front of your nose.
    It may look like harassment. It may look like unusual pressure on a 
student. It may look like intimidation of a family after someone 
attends a protest or speaks publicly. It may involve digital 
surveillance, pressure campaigns, coercive phone calls, or threats 
directed at relatives overseas.
    I would strongly support efforts to educate law enforcement on this 
threat, how we train personnel to recognize it, and how we coordinate 
with federal authorities when these situations arise.
    Looking ahead, I believe the next frontier will involve closer 
coordination between attorneys general and administrative enforcement 
agencies--particularly in areas involving financial regulation, money 
transmission, data access, and critical infrastructure. One area that 
has drawn my attention involves cross-border payment platforms and 
money transmitters operating inside the United States, where questions 
of licensing, data security, cloud architecture, and foreign access 
increasingly intersect.
    On this front, I want to commend Senator Tom Cotton of this 
Commission for publicly urging the Department of Justice to investigate 
reported risks involving Airwallex and potential exposure of sensitive 
American financial data to CCP influence or access.
    I have my own concerns about this sector generally. A money-
transmitter license is a privilege, not a right, and it carries 
obligations relating to consumer protection, data security, anti-money-
laundering compliance, and the overall fitness of the licensee to 
handle sensitive financial information. I think it is reasonable to ask 
whether those obligations are fully compatible with a business model 
that places sensitive data, operational control, or key personnel 
within the reach of foreign-adversary governments, particularly where 
those governments claim legal authority to compel access to 
information. Those are the kinds of questions that state regulators 
increasingly will need to confront, and I've begun to have those 
conversations with our state regulators in Alaska.
    States do not need to conduct foreign policy to play an important 
role here. But states can protect consumers. We can protect critical 
infrastructure. We can investigate deception, data abuse, and 
undisclosed risks. And we can ensure that Americans are not unknowingly 
exposed to foreign-adversary leverage through the products and services 
they use every day.
    In other words, states should build upon domestic resilience in 
line with the federal direction on national security threats. The 
federal government tells us who our foreign adversaries are. States can 
be a force multiplier for securing our nation, and provide stronger and 
deeper front-line resilience against global threats.
    That mission resonates particularly strongly in Alaska. Alaskans 
have an express constitutional right to privacy, and we take that right 
seriously. We also live in a place where consumer products, technology, 
and services are often more expensive and harder to obtain than 
elsewhere in the country. If Alaskans are paying a premium for a 
product or service, they deserve to know what they are getting--and 
what risks may come with it.
    We are also America's Arctic state and a Pacific state. We sit at 
the intersection of strategic cargo, telecommunications, critical 
minerals, ports, fisheries, and Arctic logistics. As a result, many of 
the issues discussed today are not abstract for us.
    My message is simple: many of the CCP's threats to Americans 
increasingly manifest themselves through areas traditionally governed 
by the states--public safety, consumer protection, licensing, and 
infrastructure. And because of that, states have both the authority and 
the responsibility to act--carefully, lawfully, and strategically--
alongside our Federal partners.
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                   Prepared Statement of Eliot Bostar

    Chair Sullivan, Co-chair Smith, and honorable members of the 
Commission, thank you for the opportunity to testify today.
    Over the last four years, the Nebraska Legislature has passed a 
slate of laws designed to protect Nebraskans from transnational 
repression, safeguard Nebraska's data and critical infrastructure 
against threats by foreign adversaries, and combat malign influence 
operations. Our first major statewide reform came in 2023. Since then, 
we have either led or partnered with other states in enacting 
pioneering security reforms every legislative session. In 2024, we 
focused on preparing our state for a potential conflict in the Pacific, 
in 2025 we worked to root out foreign influence operations and 
transnational repression, and earlier this year, we passed laws to 
protect our critical infrastructure. Nebraska is creating tangible 
results to protect our state and our citizens and building solutions 
that can serve as a model for other states, Congress, and even allied 
countries.
    Nebraska is home to the U.S. Strategic Command at Offutt Air Force 
Base as well as numerous nuclear missile installations. We are one of 
the world's leading agricultural producers, and we are deeply 
integrated into America's transportation systems, financial and 
insurance systems, telecommunications networks, and other critical 
infrastructure. These attributes make Nebraska an attractive target for 
foreign adversaries. However, these attributes are also common across 
our nation. Every state has critical industries, infrastructure, and 
institutions that our national security relies on.
    The People's Republic of China is a threat to every state and every 
community in our country.
    Our work to address the threats facing Nebraska from the PRC began 
when we were alerted to concerns held by the Department of Defense 
about the pervasiveness of Huawei technology within the vicinity of 
critical defense infrastructure in 
Nebraska, including Strategic Command and nuclear missile sites.
    Two years prior--in 2020--the U.S. Government took formal action to 
designate Huawei Technologies as a threat to national security, and 
Congress approved $1.9 billion to remove this Chinese-made cellular 
technology from communications systems across America. But Huawei 
technology was still in use--and being newly installed--throughout 
Nebraska years later.
    In 2023, we drafted legislation to address this security risk by 
prohibiting telecommunications companies from receiving state-directed 
funds, including from the Nebraska Universal Service Fund, if they use 
or provide communications equipment deemed a national security threat. 
Additionally, telecommunications companies must certify annually that 
they are not utilizing any equipment identified as a threat by the FCC, 
and are subject to fines and penalties if they cannot provide that 
certification. The law also incentivizes the removal of prohibited 
equipment by stipulating that any telecommunications company that 
removes or replaces equipment identified as a national security threat 
shall not be required to obtain any additional permits or authorization 
from any state agency or local government for that removal or 
replacement. This provision prevents bureaucratic red-tape from 
endangering our national security.
    Robust lobbying pressure was employed to keep Beijing-linked 
technologies in use throughout Nebraska's telecommunications 
infrastructure. But elected officials from both parties ultimately 
rejected this pressure and made certain that state funds were not 
subsidizing foreign surveillance. Nebraska enacted this legislation and 
paired it with executive actions restricting other state support for 
telecommunications equipment tied to Huawei and related entities.
    After passage of this law, my office was inundated with information 
from national security and defense professionals who identified threats 
that could be addressed at the state level. Their expertise and 
partnership encouraged us to push forward, and we passed several more 
laws in 2024 to protect Nebraska against foreign adversaries.
    The Foreign-owned Real Estate National Security Act works to 
protect strategic land near military installations and restrict foreign 
adversary ownership of critical real estate. This act prevents any 
person, foreign government, or entity determined to be a foreign 
adversary, from holding land within ten miles of a military 
installation, including nuclear missile silos. In cases of 
noncompliance, the law provides the Nebraska Attorney General with 
authority to force divestment.
    We passed legislation to address the security gap left by the 
expiration of federal Chemical Facility Anti-Terrorism Standards. The 
federal standards were created after the September 11, 2001 terrorist 
attacks to ensure that high-risk chemical facilities were secure and 
protected from weaponization by terrorists. With passage of our bill, 
high-risk chemical facilities in Nebraska are now required to 
participate in the otherwise voluntary ChemLock program to promote 
continued security against potential terrorist threats involving 
hazardous chemicals.
    The Pacific Conflict Stress Test Act created the joint Legislative 
and Executive Committee on Pacific Conflict with a straightforward 
purpose: to assess how a conflict in the Pacific could disrupt and 
endanger Nebraska. The Committee meets quarterly and works to identify 
ongoing vulnerabilities--evaluating the state's supply chains, export 
markets, critical infrastructure, and security apparatus--to make 
recommendations to strengthen state resilience.
    Lastly, in 2024, we passed the Foreign Adversary Contracting 
Prohibition Act. This legislation prohibits companies controlled by 
foreign adversaries from participation in sensitive procurement 
contracts involving communications technology, networked systems, and 
critical infrastructure.
    As we worked to pass these laws, we encountered significant 
opposition from a variety of interests. We learned about local 
government officials being contacted by the CCP, and we started to hear 
from victims of transnational repression, who were willing to share 
their stories. Reporting emerged regarding an alleged Chinese 
``overseas service station'' operating in Omaha, which further elevated 
our concerns regarding intelligence activity and transnational 
repression occurring within Nebraska. It became clear that we needed to 
take action to limit the CCP's broader ability to influence, 
manipulate, and hurt people in our state. This confluence of factors 
led us, in 2025, to introduce the Foreign Adversary and Terrorist Agent 
Registration Act and the Crush Transnational Repression in Nebraska 
Act.
    The Foreign Adversary and Terrorist Agent Registration Act brings 
transparency to political, propaganda, and influence activities 
conducted by agents of foreign adversaries. The Act makes it unlawful 
for any person to act as an agent of a foreign adversary nation or 
foreign terrorist organization unless that person has registered with 
the Nebraska Attorney General. The Act requires any informational 
material distributed by an agent of a foreign adversary to be notated 
with a conspicuous statement identifying it as such, and to be 
submitted to the Attorney General within 48 hours.
    Additionally, with passage of this Act, it is now against the law 
for an agent of a foreign adversary to communicate in any way with 
local or state government, any political propaganda or information on 
topics of politics, policy, or public interest, unless the 
communication is accompanied by a statement that the individual is 
registered as an agent of a foreign adversary. If an agent of a foreign 
adversary is testifying before the state legislature or any local 
government, they must provide the body with a copy of the most recent 
registration filed with the Attorney General.
    The legislation also stipulates that if an individual or entity is 
representing a principal designated by the Pentagon as a Chinese 
military company, they must present an affirmative acknowledgment that 
they are working on behalf of, and thereby acting as an agent of, a 
foreign adversary of the United States. They must also disclose that 
they are lobbying on behalf of a Chinese military company and disclose 
that the Chinese military company is a foreign adversary of the United 
States in all lobbying activities, including mail, telephone calls, 
email, in-person meetings, or testimony at legislative hearings.
    Violation of this provision results in a $100,000 fine, which 
increases by $100,000 for each subsequent violation, up to a maximum 
fine of $1 million per violation. Any individual who provides 
information leading to a penalty under this act is entitled to receive 
a $50,000 reward from the state.
    The Crush Transnational Repression in Nebraska Act defines covered 
offenses of transnational repression, which are specific crimes already 
existing in law, that will now receive an enhancing charge in Nebraska 
if the person committing the offense is an agent of a foreign 
principal. This legislation also punishes foreign law enforcement, such 
as what reportedly occurs at so-called Chinese police stations, by 
establishing that an agent of a foreign adversary commits a felony if 
such person intentionally attempts to enforce a law or rule of a 
government of a foreign country in Nebraska.
    We also passed legislation to reform our economic incentive 
programs to prevent foreign adversary companies from accessing any 
benefit from the state of Nebraska.
    The Chinese Communist Party is adept at creating corporations 
ultimately answerable to the Chinese military apparatus and maneuvering 
those entities into positions where they are receiving American dollars 
to underwrite espionage efforts within our borders. No entity loyal to 
an adversary of this nation should be the beneficiary of any economic 
incentive paid for by our tax dollars.
    In our final 2025 reform, we passed legislation in line with what 
Congress accomplished with the BIOSECURE Act in the most recent 
National Defense Authorization Act. Our genetic protection law 
establishes that no medical or research facility shall use any genetic 
sequencer, or software for genetic sequencing, if such device or 
software is produced in or by a foreign adversary. Chinese companies 
sanctioned by the Pentagon for human rights abuses have developed some 
of the world's largest gene banks. This genetic information is 
effectively property of the Chinese military and used for surveillance 
and military purposes. These massive stockpiles of genetic information 
provide the People's Republic of China and the Chinese military a clear 
advantage for creating bioweapons. Senior Chinese military officials 
have in fact already argued in favor of creating genetically targeted 
bioweapons that can incapacitate individuals based upon ethnicity. This 
law takes every measure possible to cut off Chinese military companies 
from accessing the genetic data of Nebraskans, and it complements and 
extends the congressional accomplishments in the BIOSECURE Act.
    Just this spring, we enacted a new and unique protection for 
critical infrastructure, which contains two important provisions. 
First, foreign adversary companies are prohibited from providing 
critical infrastructure or contracting with critical infrastructure 
providers in such a way that would allow them to exercise operational 
control over critical infrastructure. Second, critical infrastructure 
providers are prohibited from utilizing network-connected technologies 
that would allow for remote operational control and sabotage.
    Furthermore, we codified new enhanced penalties for crimes that we 
define as bioterrorism, including bringing in different pathogens for 
the purpose of damaging our farmlands as a tactic of hybrid warfare. We 
have seen several Chinese nationals 
arrested in Michigan for this type of crime over the past year alone.
    Although we faced significant opposition to each of these pieces of 
legislation, we were able to pass them into law with bipartisan 
support.
    The effects of Nebraska's actions are already visible. Awareness 
among state and local officials has increased significantly. 
Procurement standards have hardened. Infrastructure protections have 
expanded. Law enforcement coordination has improved. And Nebraska now 
evaluates infrastructure and investment questions through a national 
security framework that simply did not exist several years ago. Some of 
our most impactful reforms have received inquiries from other states 
that have replicated them. Congressional leaders, executive agencies, 
and even other nations like the United Kingdom have learned from 
different facets of what Nebraska has achieved.
    Most importantly, Nebraska's leadership in combating malign foreign 
influence has demonstrated that states have power and responsibility in 
this space. America is a continental power. Our country is 
geographically massive, and our constitutional system is strongly 
federalist. States have dual sovereignty, and state leaders are closer 
to many of the national security risks that our citizens face. It only 
makes sense that states drive reforms that are aligned with or layer on 
top of federal protections. In fact, both President Biden and President 
Trump have called upon states to lead in driving solutions where we are 
closest to the security risks. We know our adversaries are coordinated 
and adept at attacking us at every layer of government--we must be able 
to defend ourselves utilizing this same whole-of-government approach.
    We must strengthen coordination both between the states themselves 
and between the states and the federal government. Our work in Nebraska 
has been made possible by the guidance and partnership we have received 
from national 
security experts and practitioners. To meet the challenge across our 
nation, we need more established and formalized systems of 
coordination. We must ensure that we all have access to timely threat 
information, clear guidance, and meaningful partnerships so that we can 
identify vulnerabilities, protect critical assets, and contribute fully 
and comprehensively to the defense of the American homeland.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to testify, and I look forward 
to your 
questions.

                    Prepared Statement of Arthur Liu

    Chairman Sullivan, Co-Chairman Smith, and members of the 
Commission: Thank you for inviting me to testify here today. My name is 
Arthur Liu. I am a political dissident from China and the father of 
Olympic Gold Medalist Alysa Liu.
    It is especially meaningful to testify before this Commission on 
June 4, the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre, because the story I 
am telling today began in 1989 and, in many ways, continues to this 
day.
    June 4 is a day that I will never forget. Thirty-seven years ago 
today, the Chinese government sent tanks and soldiers into the streets 
of Beijing and used military force against its own people. Thousands of 
students and civilians who had gathered peacefully to call for 
democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, the rule of law, 
and basic human rights lost their lives. Hundreds more were severely 
injured.
    At that time, I was in Guangzhou attending graduate school at 
Zhongshan University. I was one of the principal organizers of the 
democracy movement there.
    When news of the massacre reached Guangzhou, I was devastated. I 
could not understand and believe how a government that claimed to serve 
the people could turn its weapons against its own young people. In 
response, I organized additional peaceful protests and demonstrations 
condemning the violence. Soon afterwards, I became the most wanted 
democracy activist in southern China.
    I was fortunate to escape to Hong Kong. I came to America as a 
refugee at the end of 1989.
    After I came to America, I continued to organize protests in front 
of the Chinese Consulate in San Francisco and in front of the Chinese 
Embassy here in Washington, D.C. calling upon the Chinese government to 
release political and religious prisoners in China. I have spoken 
publicly many times about the human rights abuses in China.
    Like many refugees, I believed that once I arrived in America, I 
had left political persecution behind. An incident in late 2021 proved 
me wrong!
    To explain what happened, I must first tell you a little bit about 
my daughter, Alysa Liu. Alysa recently won two gold medals for the 
United States of America at the 2026 Winter Olympic Games in Milan-
Cortina. Before that, she became the youngest U.S. women's champion in 
history when she won the U.S. Figure Skating Championship at ages 13 
and 14. She set records as the youngest female skater in history ever 
to land a triple Axel in international competition, at the age of 12, 
and she was the first female skater in history to land both a triple 
Axel and a quadruple jump in the same competition program. In 2021, it 
was clear that she was on her way to represent the United States of 
America in the 2022 Winter Olympic Games in Beijing, China.
    One day in late October or early November 2021, I received a phone 
call. The caller identified himself as an official associated with the 
United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee. He told me that he was 
conducting travel preparedness for international travel for me and my 
daughter and needed copies of our passports. He gave me a fax number to 
fax them to him. I told him that I would do it the next day. But I 
never did. That request felt unusual to me given that I knew how to 
submit our passports to the U.S. Figure Skating Association for 
international 
competitions.
    A few days later, I got a phone call from the FBI, and they wanted 
to meet with me. During that meeting, agents informed me that my 
daughter and I were the targets of a Chinese government intelligence 
operation. They told me that an individual operating on behalf of the 
People's Republic of China had come to the San Francisco Bay area and 
was attempting to obtain personal information about us, including 
passport information.
    I was shocked. My first thought was not about myself. It was about 
my daughter. I felt fearful for Alysa's safety not only in Beijing, but 
also in the United States. When Alysa returned from a competition in 
Japan, I decided to take her to another city for training.
    As we were boarding our flight, I received a telephone call from 
the FBI. The agent informed me that the spy was on his way to our home. 
I will never forget that moment. It's a scene straight out of a movie! 
I was feeling chills in my bones.
    The FBI agent informed me that they were prepared to move forward 
with the arrest of the spies. But I was terrified for Alysa's safety in 
Beijing and mental stress if the spying operation came to light. I 
asked the FBI not to take any action until after the Olympic Games and 
until Alysa returned home safely from China. I also requested 
additional security precautions for her during the Olympic Games.
    Throughout her time in Beijing, Alysa was accompanied by two adults 
as she traveled between venues and participated in the Olympic Games. 
That gave me some comfort. But it never completely eliminated my fear 
for her safety. As a father, I was worried every day and prayed for her 
safe return to America, every day.
    On March 16, 2022, after the Olympic Games, the Department of 
Justice announced criminal charges against the spies; one of them was 
Matthew Ziburis.
    According to the federal criminal complaint, I was identified as 
``Dissident 3,'' and Alysa was identified as the ``family member.'' The 
complaint alleged efforts to obtain information about me and my family, 
including passport information, personal identifying information, and 
details about our lives. The complaint further alleged surveillance 
efforts directed at me, including placing a GPS tracker on my car to 
track my daily activities.
    After the spying operation came to light in the news, a neighboring 
business owner came over to me and told me that he had seen the spy 
identified as Matthew Ziburis several times lingering around the lobby 
in front of my office.
    I am personally grateful to the brave FBI agents who provided 
security for me and my daughter. I appreciate that the U.S. Government 
took forceful action to prosecute those spies. However, America cannot 
just stop there.
    We all must understand that America will not be safe until China 
becomes a democracy! We all must understand that America will not be 
safe until China has a government which respects basic human rights and 
honors the rule of law! We all must understand that America will not be 
safe until people all over the world can live peacefully and 
harmoniously together.
    America, we have a lot of work to do! Thank you!
    Thank you again for inviting me to testify here today. I look 
forward to answering your questions.
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                    Prepared Statement of Anna Kwok

    Distinguished Members of the Commission:
    Thank you for inviting me to share my experience as a target of 
intensifying transnational repression in the United States.
    In this battle against the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)--a regime 
that fears opposition--feeling safe is a privilege. I am among hundreds 
of thousands of rights defenders in America who live every single day 
knowing we are being watched and threatened. All incidents of 
transnational repression I share today took place on American soil. 
Together, they illustrate the varied tactics of a transnational 
repression campaign.
    I served as the Executive Director of the Hong Kong Democracy 
Council, a U.S. advocacy organization sanctioned by the PRC. In May 
2023, after I testified before this very Commission on the loss of Hong 
Kong's political autonomy and its implications for the U.S., the regime 
swiftly retaliated by issuing a 1 million HKD bounty on my head. My 
assets were frozen, and my passport was revoked, crippling my 
international advocacy work. More bounties were later issued on 
American citizens and residents.
    The bounty put a huge target on my back. State media, pro-CCP 
extremists, and online propagandists launched a coordinated campaign to 
discourage the American public from associating with me.
    Explicit threats to hurt, kidnap, rape, and even execute me on 
American soil flooded my social media.
    The lawfare and digital threats became physical in November 2023 
during Chinese leader Xi Jinping's visit to the U.S. When I organized 
protests against Xi and campaigned successfully to bar the sanctioned 
Hong Kong Chief Executive from entering the country, the regime 
retaliated on the streets of San Francisco: masked men assaulted fellow 
protesters while WeChat groups circulated my whereabouts. I escaped 
physical harm only because fellow protesters protected me; local police 
were completely oblivious to the existence of transnational repression 
and refused to intervene. To this day, none of the perpetrators, 
including American nationals, have been convicted. For the first time, 
I felt as if I had been transported back to the lawless streets of Hong 
Kong; even though I was in the land of the free, I was not free.
    The online campaign and real-life violence achieved a chilling 
effect across America: Some supporters of the pro-democracy movement 
stopped showing up to events; a few went so far as to erase their 
digital footprints. Their response is all too familiar: it happened 
once in my first home, Hong Kong, and it is now happening in my second 
home, America.
    Nonetheless, I refused to back down. I led a campaign to expose the 
foreign influence and transnational threats brought by the Hong Kong 
Economic and Trade 
Offices (HKETOs). In response, the regime unleashed its cruelest 
weapon: psychological warfare.
    Last May, the regime arrested my father in Hong Kong. He was later 
convicted on fabricated charges. The state-run trial centered on an 
insurance policy my father had purchased when I was just a two-year-old 
learning to say ``papa.'' My father is imprisoned simply because he is 
my father. He is now a hostage serving a sentence for crimes neither of 
us committed. The CCP weaponized my love for my family in an attempt to 
silence me forever.
    I speak to you today as my 70-year-old father sits in a cell 8,000 
miles away. I speak as someone with a 1 million HKD bounty on my head. 
I speak as a target of rampant transnational repression. And I speak as 
someone who is standing my ground to combat an urgent threat to 
American national security.
    When a hostile foreign power launches centralized efforts--spanning 
state agencies, united front groups and individual extremists--to 
silence people inside the U.S., the government must respond with 
centralized, coordinated mechanisms. I urge the House Foreign Affairs 
Committee and Senate Foreign Relations Committee to mark up the 
bipartisan Transnational Repression Policy Act immediately--passing 
this legislation will provide the bedrock for building long-term cross-
agency mechanisms that are necessary to protect America.
    This is a litmus test for the country. If the U.S. does not draw a 
hard line and act quickly, the PRC will continue to push our 
boundaries, from running secret police stations to co-opting state 
officials. States like Nebraska and Utah are gearing up to protect 
their people; the nation should get ahead, too. We must confront the 
threat of transnational repression urgently, before it becomes a 
normalized pattern that cannot be undone. Thank you.
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                 Prepared Statement of Hon. Chris Smith

    Before we begin, I want to mark a solemn anniversary. Today marks 
the 37th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Thirty-seven 
years ago, millions of Chinese citizens peacefully asked for political 
reform, democratic openness, and basic human dignity. Their hope was 
met with tanks.
    The Chinese Communist Party unleashed the People's Liberation Army 
on peaceful demonstrators. Mothers lost sons. Fathers lost daughters. 
And China lost an idealistic generation to the violence of June 4, 
1989. There has been no full accounting of those killed, imprisoned, or 
disappeared. The Party still tries to erase a massacre the world must 
never forget.
    But Tiananmen cannot be erased. The enduring image of that day is 
the Tank Man--the solitary figure standing before a column of tanks. 
His courage reminds us that the desire for freedom is not Western, not 
foreign, and not imposed from outside. It is universal.
    As I have said before, a choice has to be made by us all: you 
either stand with the Tank Man, or you stand with the tank. There is no 
middle ground.
    And there is no middle ground in the subject before us today. 
Tiananmen is not a detour from this hearing. It is the key to 
understanding it. The same Party that tried to crush truth at home now 
tries to chase truth abroad.
    The tactics have changed. The technology has changed. The reach has 
expanded. But the purpose is the same: to make people afraid to speak 
the truth--by almost any means necessary. Inside China, the CCP uses 
surveillance, censorship, prison, torture, forced disappearance, and 
fear to maintain power.
    But what happens in China no longer stays in China. The Party wants 
to control what is said about China here, and control who says it.
    The CECC has warned about the CCP's long arm for years. Long before 
``transnational repression'' became a common phrase, I held a dozen or 
so Commission hearings documenting and exposing a consistent pattern of 
global abuse--starting with the Confucius Institutes in 2014.
    Over time, tactics have become more digital and more ruthless: 
detaining family members in China, doxxing, spyware, deepfakes, Hong 
Kong bounties, and illegal police stations right here in the United 
States. It is outrageous and unacceptable and must be stopped.
    Transnational repression is not the only threat Americans face, but 
it is part of a broader, interconnected CCP strategy. We see that 
strategy in scam networks stealing from U.S. citizens, fentanyl 
poisoning our cities, PRC-linked land purchases near military 
installations, efforts to corrupt politicians and elections, steal 
private personnel and biometric data, and intellectual property theft 
from businesses and universities.
    These may look like separate problems, but they share a common 
purpose: exploit our openness, gather leverage, weaken our 
institutions, spread propaganda, and make Americans pay a price for 
standing up to Beijing.
    Transnational repression is the most personal form of that 
strategy. It brings the pressure campaign to the doorstep of the 
student, journalist, dissident, artist, and family member. That is why 
state and local responses matter. A victim may first call local police. 
A student may go to a university official. A state attorney general may 
see the pattern. A state legislator may realize existing law does not 
fit the threat.
    So the questions are practical: Do local officers recognize this 
threat, do universities know how to protect students, do states have 
the tools they need, and does the federal government have a real 
strategy?
    That is why I am proud to work with Chairman Sullivan, Senator 
Merkley, and Representative McGovern on the Transnational Repression 
Policy Act. This bipartisan, bicameral legislation would define the 
abuse, improve coordination, train officials, support targeted 
communities, and hold perpetrators accountable--because victims need 
more than sympathy. They need protection and a place to turn.
    Let me make one point clear. A regime that fears a student's 
question, a refugee's protest, an artist's statue, or the simple memory 
of Tiananmen is not a strong and confident superpower. It is afraid. 
And fear in the hands of a dictatorship is dangerous. It becomes 
coercion. It becomes censorship. It becomes repression that crosses 
borders and reaches into our communities.
    So our answer must be unmistakable. If the CCP threatens people 
here, there must be investigations and prosecutions. If it reaches 
across our borders to spread fear, there must be sanctions. If it takes 
family members hostage to silence a critic, we will demand their 
release and expose the cruelty of that tactic. And if it tries to 
censor a free people, we will defend and spread the rights Beijing 
fears most: freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of 
assembly, and the right to tell the truth without fear.
    Because in the United States of America, unlike in China, no one 
needs the Party's permission to speak, to worship, to protest, to 
remember, or to be free.
    That is why this hearing matters.
    Thank you. I look forward to the testimony of our witnesses.
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                Prepared Statement of Hon. Dan Sullivan

    Today's hearing comes at a pivotal moment. Because one of the 
clearest lessons of the last decade is this: what happens in China does 
not stay in China.
    The Chinese Communist Party is not content to repress people inside 
China's borders. It is increasingly trying to export that repression 
abroad, including here in the United States. And that is what this 
hearing is about: threats to Americans, on American soil.
    Let me say at the outset, very clearly: That is unacceptable, it is 
outrageous and it has to stop. And the title of this hearing goes 
directly to legislation that Congressman Smith and Congressman McGovern 
are leading in the House, and that Senator Merkley and I are advancing 
in the Senate: the Transnational Repression Policy Act.
    That bill starts from a very basic principle. If the CCP is going 
to harass, surveil, threaten, and intimidate people living in freedom 
in the United States, then the United States needs to respond--
seriously, strategically, and on a bipartisan basis. Because this is 
not some secondary issue. It is about protecting Americans.
    Let me make this concrete. Alaska may not sit at the center of the 
PRC's transnational repression apparatus, but even Alaska has not been 
spared. An Alaskan constituent recounted to me that, during a high-
level CCP official's visit to 
Alaska, he was intimidated and surrounded by Chinese security officials 
after staging a one-person protest. He said that a local Chinese 
community group was then contacted to register displeasure over his 
exercise of free speech.
    Think about that. One person, standing alone, on American soil, 
exercising a constitutional right. And that was enough to trigger an 
effort by the Chinese Communist Party to intimidate him into silence.
    That incident took place some time ago. Since then, the CCP's 
tactics have evolved, its operations have expanded, and its reach has 
grown much more sophisticated. Freedom House has described the PRC's 
transnational repression campaign as the most sophisticated, 
comprehensive, and far reaching in the world. But the goal is still the 
same--to use the power and pressure of the party-state to coerce, 
censor, and silence critics far beyond China's borders.
    That is why this hearing matters.
    And more and more, the CCP is not just targeting the critic. It is 
targeting the family. It threatens relatives, jails family members, 
uses exit bans, and pressures loved ones back in China in order to 
silence people living freely here in America. We should call that what 
it is: hostage diplomacy. It is a way of telling people in the United 
States that if they speak out, somebody they love may pay the price.
    Chinese students and scholars are intimidated on university 
campuses. Chinese military-backed companies are forging ties with 
university researchers and buying land near sensitive military sites. 
We have even seen efforts to establish Chinese police stations here in 
the United States. The CCP is targeting critics, pressuring families, 
stealing from Americans through scam centers tied to Chinese criminal 
networks, and making people in this country think twice before they 
speak.
    These may look like different problems on paper, but they reflect 
the same basic approach: project power, spread fear, gather leverage, 
and probe for weakness here in the United States.
    One encouraging sign is that states are not waiting around for 
Washington. Texas took action in 2024 to protect Texans from PRC-led 
transnational repression. And in 2025, lawmakers in Texas, Nebraska, 
and Arizona--Republicans and Democrats--passed bipartisan legislation 
to strengthen penalties and improve law-
enforcement responses.
    We should be learning from those efforts. What is working? Where 
are the gaps? What tools do state and local officials need and how can 
the federal government actually be helpful?
    These are practical questions. But they are also urgent ones. 
Because every day this goes unanswered, the CCP gets a little bolder. 
And we cannot allow that to become normal.
    People who come to America for freedom should not have to live in 
fear on American soil. People exercising rights protected by our 
Constitution should not have to look over their shoulder because 
Beijing is threatening their family members back home. Chinese students 
on American campuses should not have to wonder whether the regime is 
watching them. And the Chinese Communist Party should never come to 
believe that it can use surveillance, intimidation, or deepfakes to 
police speech or spread fear inside the United States without a 
response.
    Threats to Americans are unacceptable. That is the bottom line. And 
if the CCP thinks it can intimidate people in the United States and get 
away with it, then this hearing should send a very clear message: Not 
here. Not in this country. And not without a concerted and tough 
response.
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              Prepared Statement of Hon. James P. McGovern

    I want to thank my colleague from New Jersey, Congressman Smith, 
for his words and for his commitment to human rights, not only in China 
but all around the world.
    Good morning. I join my colleagues in welcoming our witnesses and 
guests to today's hearing on transnational repression.
    Today is June 4th. And as Co-chair Smith pointed out, 37 years ago, 
the Chinese government directed the military to attack civilians who 
were exercising their right to freedom of expression to call for 
economic and political reform.
    Let us never forget those who bravely stood for freedom in 
Tiananmen Square and other cities, the mothers who never knew the fate 
of their children, and those who continue to tell the stories in the 
face of a government that seeks to silence them.
    And let us not forget that any society whose leaders are willing to 
use lethal force against peaceful protesters is a society at risk of 
losing its fundamental liberties.
    I am glad that the Commission continues to address transnational 
repression. In 2020, Co-chair Marco Rubio and I created a new chapter 
called ``Human Rights Violations in the U.S. and Globally'' in the 
Annual Report.
    CECC staff have just released a special report on transnational 
repression. I always appreciate the dedication of the non-partisan 
subject matter experts who work for the Commission. This report is 
absolutely worth reading.
    China is the world's worst perpetrator of transnational repression. 
Freedom House lists the PRC with the most incidents (319) since 2014--
and that only accounts for reported incidents. Who knows how many 
people have gotten threatening texts or calls that they are too scared 
to report?
    But transnational repression (TNR) is more than China. Freedom 
House lists Tajikistan, Rwanda, Russia, Egypt, and Belarus among the 
biggest violators. Last year I chaired a Tom Lantos Human Rights 
Commission hearing highlighting TNR by India, Pakistan, and Hong Kong. 
Yesterday afternoon Co-chair Smith and I convened a hearing on Turkiye, 
listed with 160 TNR incidents.
    Hearings are fine. But it really is time for action.
    Advocates tell us their #1 goal is to create a standard definition 
of transnational repression. I am proud to join with CECC leaders 
Senators Merkley and Sullivan and Co-chair Smith in sponsoring the 
Transnational Repression Policy Act. It defines TNR in statute, 
strengthening efforts to counter it at the federal, state and local 
level. This bill was first introduced in the House three years ago. But 
it has gone nowhere.
    In March, Freedom House led a coalition of 35 organizations, 
including Uyghur, Tibetan, Chinese, and Hong Kong human rights groups, 
in a statement to the chairs of the House Foreign Affairs Committee and 
Senate Foreign Relations Committee, asking them to mark up the bill.
    Foreign Affairs has scheduled four mark-ups since that letter. But 
the Transnational Repression Policy Act never makes the agenda. I ask 
Chairman Mast in the House to act.
    Our bill is important because it would give the U.S. the tools to 
lead on TNR. Equally important, we must acknowledge that the tools will 
only be effective if we avoid double standards. I worry we are falling 
short:

        1.  President Biden started and President Trump completed the 
        rehabilitation of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who 
        directed the murder of Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey. We lose 
        credibility when the U.S. Government allows impunity for 
        transnational repression.

        2.  This Commission characterized the deportation by Thailand 
        of 40 Uyghurs to China as transnational repression. Yet the 
        Trump administration has deported individuals who have been 
        transnationally repressed in the U.S. by Iran and Russia back 
        to those countries. We lose credibility to ask other countries 
        to protect TNR victims when the U.S. Government refuses to 
        protect TNR victims.

        3.  To the extent we label political interference by China in 
        the U.S. as transnational repression, then we must consider 
        Senator Bernie Moreno's meddling in the Colombian election as 
        transnational repression. We lose credibility when U.S. 
        officials act like CCP officials.

        4.  Last year the Trump administration sanctioned a Brazilian 
        judge who brought insurrectionists to justice, falsely 
        portraying legitimate accountability as transnational 
        repression. We lose credibility when U.S. officials pervert TNR 
        to help political allies.

    In September, our credibility will again be tested. Xi Jinping will 
visit Washington at President Trump's invitation. The last time he was 
in the U.S., thugs associated with the Chinese consulate in San 
Francisco beat up anti-Xi protesters. We must be prepared to defend the 
right to protest here.
    The question is: Will we?
    The Trump administration has deployed security forces to suppress 
Americans' right to protest. They're doing it now outside the Delaney 
Hall ICE facility in Newark, New Jersey. If Xi Jinping asks President 
Trump to contain or control Chinese, Uyghur, and Tibetan protesters, 
will he do that, or will he be wind at the backs of those engaged in 
legitimate dissent?
    The administration has deported people for exercising their free 
speech rights under the First Amendment and the ICCPR to criticize the 
Israeli government. If Xi Jinping asks President Trump to deport 
people, for whatever reason, back to China, we must make it clear that 
that is unacceptable, and we will not do that, and we will not stand 
for that.
    Transnational repression is a human rights violation. All human 
beings are 
entitled to the same rights, no matter where they live, or how they 
feel about their
government.
    I thank the witnesses for being here and I welcome their insight.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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                          Witness Biographies

    Stephen J. Cox, Counsel to the Governor, State of Alaska

    Stephen J. Cox serves as Counsel to the Governor of Alaska and 
previously served as Alaska's 28th Attorney General. In state service, 
he has advised the Governor and executive agencies on major legal, 
constitutional, and policy matters, including litigation, public 
safety, regulatory initiatives, resource development priorities, 
consumer protection, and risks connected to China such as illegal 
imports, counterfeit and unsafe products, and technology concerns 
affecting vulnerable Alaskans. He previously served as Senior Vice 
President and Chief Legal and Strategy Officer at Bristol Bay 
Industrial, and earlier as principal attorney for Apache Corporation's 
Alaska operations. Cox also served in senior roles at the U.S. 
Department of Justice, including as Deputy Associate Attorney General 
and U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Texas, where his work 
included corporate enforcement policy, regulatory reform, white collar 
crime, elder fraud, and violent crime prosecutions.

    Eliot Bostar, Nebraska State Senator

    State Senator Eliot Bostar represents District 29 in the Nebraska 
Legislature, where he was first elected in 2020 and re-elected in 2024. 
A nonprofit executive and graduate of St. John's Northwestern Military 
Academy and Embry-Riddle University, he serves on the Banking, Commerce 
and Insurance Committee, the Revenue Committee, the Committee on 
Committees, the Reference Committee, the Rules Committee, the Executive 
Board, the Legislature's Planning Committee, the Streamlined Sales and 
Use Tax System Committee, and the Statewide Tourism and Recreational 
Water Access and Resource Sustainability Committee. Senator Bostar 
introduced LB644 at the request of Nebraska's Governor; the measure, 
approved by the Governor in June 2025, adopted the Foreign Adversary 
and Terrorist Agent Registration Act and the Crush Transnational 
Repression in Nebraska Act, among other provisions related to foreign-
adversary contracting and genetic sequencing data.

    Arthur Liu, Owner, Inter-Pacific Law Group

    Arthur Junguo Liu is an attorney in the San Francisco Bay area and 
the father of two-time Olympic gold medalist figure skater Alysa Liu. 
Born and raised in China, Liu was attending graduate school at 
Zhongshan University in Guangzhou in 1989 when he organized student 
demonstrations calling for democracy, human rights, and an end to 
corruption. After the June 4 Massacre, he became one of the most wanted 
student activists in South China and came to the United States as a 
political refugee at the end of 1989. He later earned an MBA and JD in 
California and has practiced law for more than 27 years. Liu has 
continued his advocacy for democracy and human rights in China by 
organizing protests outside the Chinese Consulate in San Francisco and 
the Chinese Embassy in Washington, D.C. After PRC-linked efforts to 
recruit Alysa Liu to compete for China, Liu and his daughter became 
targets of PRC spying operations before the 2022 Winter Olympic Games.

    Anna Kwok, Board Director and former Executive Director, Hong Kong 
Democracy Council

    Anna Kwok is a Hong Kong organizer and policy analyst based in 
Washington, D.C. She is a Board Director and former Executive Director 
of the Hong Kong
Democracy Council, a nonpartisan nonprofit organization that supports 
Hong Kong's pro-democracy movement and Hong Kongers in the United 
States through policy advocacy, diaspora empowerment, and research and 
education. Kwok previously worked as an anonymous activist on major 
international campaigns, later choosing to make her identity public 
after the imposition of Hong Kong's National Security Law in order to 
resist the climate of fear affecting Hong Kong activists abroad. In 
2023, Hong Kong authorities issued an arrest warrant and offered a HK$1 
million bounty in connection with her advocacy work. In 2025, Kwok's 
father was arrested and imprisoned in what she and other advocates have 
described as retaliation for her advocacy.
        
        

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