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                    CONFRONTING CHINA'S IUU FISHING
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              CONGRESSIONAL-EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA

                    LEGISLATIVE BRANCH COMMISSIONERS



Senate                               House

DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska, Chair          CHRIS SMITH, New Jersey, Co-chair
TOM COTTON, Arkansas                 ZACHARY NUNN, Iowa
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 ELISE STEFANIK, New York
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois            DALE STRONG, Alabama
ANDY KIM, New Jersey                 JEN KIGGANS, Virginia
LISA BLUNT ROCHESTER, Delaware       JAMES P. McGOVERN, Massachusetts
                                     THOMAS SUOZZI, New York
                                     SUHAS SUBRAMANYAM, Virginia
                                     JAMES WALKINSHAW, Virginia

                     EXECUTIVE BRANCH COMMISSIONERS

                           Not yet appointed

                      Scott Flipse, Staff Director
                   Mary Vigil, Deputy Staff Director

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                            C O N T E N T S

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                               Statements

Opening Statement of Hon. Dan Sullivan, a U.S. Senator from 
  Alaska; Chair, Congressional-Executive Commission on China.....     1
Statement of Hon. Chris Smith, a Representative from New Jersey 
  and Co-chair, Congressional-Executive Commission on China......     5
Statement of Hon. Dale Strong, a Representative from Alabama.....     6
Statement of Ian Urbina, director and founder, The Outlaw Ocean 
  Project........................................................     7
Statement of Hon. Sheldon Whitehouse, a Senator from Rhode Island     9
Statement of Scott W. Clendenin, RADM, USCG (Ret.), owner, Dog 
  Zebra Solutions LLC and strategic advisor to ``The Geopolitics 
  of the Ocean--Why Healthy Seas Are Vital to America's National 
  Security,'' (World Wildlife Fund, 2025)........................    10
Statement of Hon. Dean A. Pinkert, former commissioner and Vice 
  Chairman of the U.S. International Trade Commission and special 
  advisor, Corporate Accountability Lab..........................    12
Video testimony of fisherman Muhammad Sahrudin...................    13

                                APPENDIX
                                
                          Prepared Statements

Urbina, Ian......................................................    27
Clendenin, Scott W...............................................    29
Pinkert, Dean A..................................................    34

Sullivan, Hon. Dan...............................................    36
Smith, Hon. Chris................................................    38

                       Submissions for the Record

Questions for Admiral Clendenin from Chair Sullivan..............    41
Submission of the Southern Shrimp Alliance.......................    45

CECC Truth in Testimony Disclosure Form..........................    57
Witness Biographies..............................................    59

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                       DARK NETS, ILLICIT LABOR--
                    CONFRONTING CHINA'S IUU FISHING
                        AND SEAFOOD SUPPLY CHAIN

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                        THURSDAY, APRIL 16, 2026

                            Congressional-Executive
                                       Commission on China,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The hearing was held from 10:09 a.m. to 11:36 a.m., in Room 
562, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Washington, DC, Senator 
Dan Sullivan, Chair, Congressional-Executive Commission on 
China, presiding.
    Also present: Co-chair Chris Smith, Senators Kim and 
Whitehouse, and Representative Strong.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. DAN SULLIVAN, A SENATOR FROM ALASKA 
     AND CHAIR, CONGRESSIONAL-EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA

    Chair Sullivan. The Commission will come to order. We are 
here today to examine illegal, unreported, unregulated fishing 
by the People's Republic of China. What we're dealing with is a 
state-backed system run by the Chinese Communist Party that 
combines illegal fishing, market manipulation, some of the 
worst environmental standards on oceans in the world, gray 
fleets that don't abide by any international treaties, and 
forced labor, all in one supply chain. And it's happening at 
scale--what we call IUU fishing. This system has real 
consequences for American workers, for law-abiding American 
fishermen--particularly in my state, the great state of 
Alaska--and for the integrity of the entire global seafood 
market. The PRC has built the world's largest distant-water 
fishing fleet. These vessels do not simply compete, they 
overwhelm.
    And as China always does, they cheat. They show up in other 
countries' waters, hundreds if not thousands of these gray 
fleet vessels. They push into exclusive economic zones, where 
they're not supposed to be. They ignore quotas and 
environmental standards. They transship and relabel the catch 
to hide its origin. And they use forced labor, slave labor. 
This is not fair competition. Alaska fishermen can't compete 
against slave labor. It is a strategy of economic coercion that 
has direct consequences here at home, but also overseas.
    My state I like to refer to as the superpower of seafood. 
We produce over 60 percent of the wild-caught seafood in the 
United States--commercial, subsistence, sport. In Alaska, we 
have some of the best-managed fisheries in the world. We 
certainly have challenges like bycatch, but our fishermen 
generally follow the law. They respect environmental standards. 
They manage sustainably. They are very focused on preserving 
resources for future generations. Alaska fishermen, American 
fishermen, should not be forced to compete against gray fleets 
from China that disregard rules, benefit from state subsidies, 
flood global markets with cheap products tied to illegal 
practices, all the while destroying fish stocks through 
trawling and other operations on the high seas.
    Again, this is not fair competition. And it gets worse. 
There's credible evidence that parts of the PRC seafood supply 
chain involve forced labor, slave labor, including Uyghur labor 
and North Korean labor, in seafood processing. North Koreans 
and Indonesians, and others, are also being used on Chinese 
fishing boats in conditions that resemble slave labor. So when 
we talk about IUU fishing, we are not just talking about 
resource theft and environmental degradation. We are talking 
about a system in which illegal fishing, hidden sourcing, labor 
exploitation, market distortion, and horrendous environmental 
standards for sustainable ocean fisheries are all connected. 
This should concern all of us.
    Then add Russia to this mix. Russian seafood can be 
processed in China, relabeled, and then pushed back into global 
markets. This undermines sanctions and further distorts prices. 
It should not be possible, but it is happening now as we speak. 
This is a serious problem, and it deserves serious attention. 
Fortunately, we are beginning to act. I weighed in extensively 
with the Trump administration to communicate how much Alaska 
fishermen need a comprehensive ban on Russian seafood imports 
into the United States to continue. Russia banned the 
importation of American seafood in 2014.
    We have not been able to export one fish to Russia since 
2014. You want to talk about an unlevel playing field? We were 
able to get a ban on Russian seafood into the United States. 
When they tried to launder their seafood through China, we 
clamped down on that as well. I was happy to see the Trump 
administration renew that ban just a few weeks ago to help 
maintain and strengthen Federal measures, ensure a level 
playing field against Russia, and promote Alaskan and American 
fishermen and coastal communities that support them.
    Congress has also begun to respond. Two weeks ago, the 
Senate unanimously passed my Fighting Foreign Illegal Seafood 
Harvests Act, the FISH Act. This is an effort, a comprehensive 
effort that I've been working on for many years with my friend 
and colleague Senator Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, that 
recognizes the huge threat of IUU fishing, not just as an 
environmental issue, but as an economic issue, a labor issue, a 
national security issue. When Senator Whitehouse and I were at 
the Munich Security Conference--not this year but last year and 
the year before--the AFRICOM commander, the four-star Marine 
general in charge of U.S. AFRICOM, the combatant commander for 
AFRICOM, met with a bunch of Senators saying the number one 
national security issue he's dealing with right now is IUU 
fishing from China off the coast of Africa, if you can believe 
that.
    This is an issue that combines national security, forced 
labor, human trafficking, environmental degradation, and 
sustainable oceans, all wrapped up in one. Our FISH Act is the 
most comprehensive enforcement effort to combat IUU fishing in 
the history of Congress. And it passed in a unanimous way in 
the U.S. Senate. So we're hoping our House colleagues will get 
that one over the goal line soon, and I'm confident that we 
will. Congress also passed, and the President signed into law, 
a provision that I included in the NDAA last year, barring the 
Pentagon from selling or procuring any Chinese seafood imports 
into our commissaries or military dining facilities. Our 
servicemen and women and their families should not be eating 
communist fish. We should be eating freedom fish from Alaska 
and America, and we were able to start an important way in 
which to do that. I'm pretty darn sure Chinese military members 
are not eating great wild Alaskan salmon, so we shouldn't be 
eating their fish, especially given how it's harvested.
    I've also been the leading advocate for elevating the role 
of seafood within the U.S. Department of Agriculture. I'm very 
honored to announce that just yesterday the Secretary of 
Agriculture, the Secretary of the Interior, the Secretary of 
Commerce, and the NEC Chairman Kevin Hassett and I announced 
the USDA Office of Seafood Policy--this is something I've been 
working on for 10 years and we finally did it--to enable the 
farmers of the sea, our great American fishermen, to have many 
of the same benefits that our farmers have from USDA and have 
the White House fully coordinate American seafood policy. In 
our press conference and roundtable yesterday with many 
American fishermen throughout the country, we talked a lot 
about the issues we are going to be focused on in this hearing. 
It's progress.
    If illegal seafood can still be caught in one place, 
processed in another, relabeled, and sold in the United States, 
then we have significant gaps to close. If Withhold Release 
Orders from Customs are not brought robustly, if traceability 
remains incomplete, and if import controls are still too easy 
to circumvent, then bad actors will continue to exploit these 
weaknesses. That is why this hearing matters. We need to 
understand more fully where our enforcement tools are working, 
where they are falling short, and what more should be done.
    I'm particularly interested in hearing from our experts 
today on the utility of tools like the Uyghur Forced Labor 
Prevention Act. That was a bill that Chairman Smith and Senator 
Rubio, now our Secretary of State, got passed into law, that 
banned the importation of products from China that use Uyghur 
forced labor. One of my questions today will be, if the Chinese 
are using forced labor for fisheries, why are we allowing any 
fish from China into the United States, not just the fish going 
to our commissaries and military dining facilities? Senator 
Merkley and I have introduced a bill to follow on that, the 
Uyghur Genocide Accountability and Sanctions Act, that 
reinforces some of these provisions. As it moves through the 
process, maybe there's more we can do with it. We're certainly 
open to suggestions from our witnesses.
    At this time this is not a challenge the United States 
faces alone. Countries around the world are dealing with the 
same tactics--as I mentioned, African countries, Latin American 
countries. The same coercive patterns, the same gray fleets, 
Chinese fleets, that ravage the ocean, the same difficulty of 
enforcing rules against these fleets that operate at scale and 
in the shadows. We need to work with our partners to improve 
enforcement capacity and increase the cost of this illegal IUU 
behavior. Though China's IUU fishing is a global and complex 
problem, at the end of the day the principle here is simple. If 
you are engaged in illegal fishing, if you are exploiting 
workers, if you are using slave labor, if you are hiding all of 
these things, then you should not have access to the American 
market, period. That should be the standard.
    If we banned all Russian seafood, which we have, why 
shouldn't we also ban all Chinese seafood, which we should. 
This hearing is an opportunity to expose the Chinese IUU 
fishing system that impacts more than just sustainable and 
healthy oceans. It's a human trafficking racket. It is an 
opportunity to identify where our policies need to be stronger 
and make clear that the United States intends to defend lawful 
producers, uphold human rights, and enforce the laws--
particularly [former Commission] chairman and Senator, now 
Secretary, Rubio.
    [The prepared statement of Chair Sullivan appears in the 
Appendix.]
    I want to thank our witnesses for helping bring 
transparency to what is designed to stay hidden. I want to 
introduce them, because we have an expert panel.
    Ian Urbina is the founder and director of The Outlaw Ocean 
Project, a Washington, DC.-based nonprofit journalism 
organization that investigates human rights, environmental, and 
labor abuses across the world's oceans. Before launching the 
project, he spent nearly 17 years as a staff reporter for the 
New York Times. His work has earned numerous awards. His New 
Yorker articles and political articles were exceptional, and 
I've cited them many times in testimony. His awards include a 
Pulitzer Prize, two George Polk Awards, and an Emmy. This is 
journalism at its finest and most important.
    Rear Admiral Scott Clendenin has served 33 years on active 
duty in the U.S. Coast Guard and retired as Assistant 
Commandant for Response Policy where he oversaw operational 
policy across seven mission areas. He spent 14 years at sea on 
six Coast Guard cutters, commanded four of them, and led 
international multi-mission patrols involving narcotics 
interdiction, fisheries enforcement, mass migration response, 
search and rescue, and disaster response. Ashore he held senior 
intelligence and policy roles supporting national operations 
and interagency efforts. He is a 1990 graduate of the U.S. 
Coast Guard Academy.
    And finally, the Honorable Dean Pinkert, who is an 
international trade and human rights lawyer and consultant who 
serves as a special advisor to Corporate Accountability Lab. He 
spent 10 years as a commissioner at the International Trade 
Commission, including two as the vice chairman. He has 
testified before Congress and has written and spoken widely on 
trade policies, including U.S. efforts to prevent the 
importation of goods produced by forced laborers.
    I want to welcome the witnesses. I want to hear from our 
Co-chairman--his opening statement. Then we look forward to the 
statements from our witnesses.
    Mr. Chairman.

STATEMENT OF HON. CHRIS SMITH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM NEW JERSEY 
                  AND CO-CHAIR, CONGRESSIONAL-
                 EXECUTIVE COMMISSION ON CHINA

    Co-chair Smith. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, and 
thank you for your extraordinary leadership on the FISH Act. 
You know, I've been in Congress now 46 years. Very often, 
because of the filibuster and the unbelievable power one member 
has to stop a bill . . . you were able to navigate, overcome 
just tremendous odds to get this piece of legislation passed by 
the Senate. It will pass in the House. I've already talked to 
the Chairman, that you have continually talked to--Bruce 
Westerman--who's a great chairman. He's all in. He's had his 
hearings himself.
    But you did--and people have to know this--the nearly 
impossible. Because there would be a hold on this bill. I know 
the four or five people who would have done it. You navigated 
that just brilliantly, and I want to thank you for that. The 
bill will pass, I think people know, unanimously. And again, 
it's comprehensive. It is a historic, landmark piece of 
legislation to combat foreign, illegal, unreported, and 
unregulated--IUU--fishing. The Sullivan FISH Act will blacklist 
offenders from U.S. ports, bolster the U.S. Coast Guard's 
enforcement capabilities, and advance international and 
bilateral negotiations to achieve enforceable agreements. 
Again, we will just back your leadership in the House and get 
this over the finish line and signed by the President.
    Let me also say too, your amendment that you got into the 
NDAA to ban the purchase of these products by our commissaries, 
the PXs, we had written the Biden administration--and that 
would be Marco Rubio and I--frequently saying, all of the 
agencies of government who buy fish, and were the biggest 
purchasers of fish in the world, how could we be doing that 
when it is being made with forced labor in violation of the 
Uyghur Act, as well as the Uyghur Human Rights Act? And we get 
crickets. You know, they didn't do a thing. You've now put it 
into law, and I can't say [enough] how grateful all of us are 
for your extraordinary leadership. It's just amazing, and it's 
going to make the difference.
    And I do hope your constituents know, because in addition 
to being a fundamental human rights issue, it also is a great 
issue for your fishermen. I have many in my state of New 
Jersey. They can't compete against unfair trading of that kind, 
where you force people to be on these boats. And again, Ian, at 
great risk to his investigators--and I mean great risk, being 
on the boats themselves--were able to expose this. And yet we 
really--until your law, and it's going to be a law--we got 
nothing. You know, we got a lot of, Oh, wow, that's something. 
But nobody would say, let's really do something. And again, 
four years of the Biden administration, crickets. They wouldn't 
do it. And I can't tell you how upset I am with them.
    At our Commission hearing in 2023, we did hear from Ian, 
who did a tremendous job. I like the way you [the Chair] said, 
you know, outstanding leadership on the journalistic side. You 
[the Chair] have shown us outstanding legislative leadership, 
Mr. Chairman, to get this legislation passed by the U.S. 
Senate. We did have a hearing. We called it ``From Bait to 
Plate: How Forced Labor in China Taints America's Seafood 
Supply Chain.'' And across the board, whether it be calamari or 
whatever it might be, we're talking about a highly tainted 
industry with forced labor. And you know, nobody does forced 
labor as horribly and as egregiously as Xi Jinping does. Of 
course, a whole industry now has been tainted. And again, Ian, 
you're the one who broke the story on all this.
    You know, I want to thank you. I do have a long statement, 
but we do want to get to our witnesses. I ask, with unanimous 
consent, that it be made a part of the record. But I can't 
thank you enough, Mr. Chairman. I mean, this is leadership. I 
hope people realize how hard it is to get a human rights bill 
passed in the U.S. Senate, and you've achieved it. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Co-chair Smith appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It was a team 
effort. Senator Whitehouse, I think, is going to show up here 
in a little bit. He was my partner on this.
    Congressman, do you have an opening statement?

                 STATEMENT OF HON. DALE STRONG,
                 A REPRESENTATIVE FROM ALABAMA

    Representative Strong. Well, Mr. Chairman, it's an honor to 
be back again with each of you. Thank you all for being here 
today, our witnesses. This is a very distinguished group that 
is before this Commission. Think about this: China's illegal 
fishing practices and forced labor systems--totally 
unacceptable. Alabama's red snapper fishery is one of the most 
well managed and profitable in the Gulf, yet our local 
fishermen are forced to compete with cartel-backed poachers and 
subsidized foreign fleets that ignore conservation standards. 
And I think that that right there is working against America. I 
just commend both of you, especially because this wasn't an 
easy fight. But I think we're definitely going in the right 
direction.
    In this opening statement, I just want to commend both of 
you for this. And we'll roll with questions later. I thank each 
of you for being here. And Ian, I thank you for your hard work. 
Not an easy lift that you went through, but I can tell you, the 
world saw it. There's no doubt. And I thank each of you for 
being here. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you.
    We're going to begin, speaking of forced labor, with a very 
quick video. We will start with the testimony of our three 
distinguished witnesses, and then we'll wrap that up with the 
short video. Then we will have questions for the panel.
    It's good to see Senator Kim here as well. Do you want to 
say anything? Okay.
    Why don't we begin? I've already introduced our witnesses, 
again, three distinguished witnesses. I want to begin with Ian 
Urbina, who's done such a great job on The Outlaw Ocean 
Project, and hear from him. You have five minutes for an 
opening statement, and if you wish to submit a longer written 
statement for the record, we will certainly accept that. Mr. 
Urbina.

                    STATEMENT OF IAN URBINA,
         DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER, THE OUTLAW OCEAN PROJECT

    Mr. Urbina. Thank you for that. I'll try to make the five-
minute deadline. I'll read fast.
    Chair Sullivan. That's all right, I didn't make my five-
minute deadline. There's a lot to say here.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Urbina. Thank you, Chair Sullivan, Co-chair Smith, and 
the rest of the Commission for inviting me to speak. It's an 
honor to be back before you. Last time I was here was in 2023, 
when the Commission asked me to testify about an investigation 
by my news team, The Outlaw Ocean Project, into China's role in 
global seafood. That reporting focused on China's more than 
6,500 industrial fishing vessels and its hundreds of processing 
plants. It documented debt bondage, passport confiscation, 
avoidable deaths, fatal beatings, trafficked workers, illegal 
fishing, and a state-coordinated program forcing thousands of 
workers from Xinjiang and North Korea into seafood processing 
plants.
    Much of the product from those plants was bound for the 
U.S., including U.S. military bases and congressional 
cafeterias, in violation of the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention 
Act (UFLPA) and the equivalent law tied to North Korean labor 
known as CAATSA. In the wake of that reporting, Congress, the 
executive branch, and a small handful of seafood companies took 
action. I'm here today to discuss our current investigation, 
which will be published in the coming weeks, and which examines 
the global aquaculture industry, including China's role in it. 
By way of context, seafood is the world's most heavily traded 
food commodity by value, and aquaculture, or fish farming, is 
the industry's fastest growing sector. As of 2022, more than 
half of all seafood worldwide was farmed, rather than caught at 
sea.
    This growth has been driven in part by a marketing claim 
that fish farming is sustainable because it reduces pressure on 
wild fisheries. The problem is that, for much of the industry, 
that claim is false. Roughly two-thirds of global aquaculture 
depends on feed made from wild-caught fish, in the form of 
fishmeal and fish oil--think of seafood that people eat most--
so salmon, shrimp, tilapia, sea bream. In other words, many 
farmed fish are fed the very wild fish the industry claims it's 
helping to spare. Not all aquaculture works this way. Roughly a 
third of global fish farming focuses on non-fed species, such 
as clams, oysters, and mussels. That form of aquaculture can 
indeed be sustainable.
    But most fish farming depends on fed fish. And our 
investigation found that this segment of the industry prefers 
to begin the story of sustainability and ethical sourcing at 
the farm. If you start the story earlier, however, with the 
feed, a very different picture emerges. Our recent 
investigation, called ``Food for Feed,'' did just that. Over 
the past two years we mapped and reported on roughly 1,400 
fishmeal plants worldwide. We boarded and inspected ships 
supplying them. We traced the farms to which the feed goes. And 
we tracked the resulting seafood. Our goal was to document the 
hidden costs of fish farming.
    In Russia's Far East, we found forced labor on ships, 
farms, and in factories. In Western Sahara, we revealed the 
industry helping prop up Morocco's military occupation. In 
Gambia and Mauritania, we discovered fish that once fed local 
communities increasingly diverted into fishmeal factories for 
export, worsening food insecurity in countries including India 
and Peru, the industry was tied to at least 80 incidents of 
civil unrest, some quite violent, often labor strikes and 
community protests over polluted water and stench from 
factories cooking thousands of tons of decomposing fish. These 
are what economists call externalities, costs pushed onto 
distant countries and communities while wealthier consumers 
enjoy the luxury seafood produced as a result.
    So what does any of this have to do with China? China is 
the largest producer, exporter, and consumer of seafood in the 
world. It's also the single biggest exporter of seafood to the 
United States. And it is rapidly expanding fish farming so it 
does not have to send so many vessels onto the high seas or 
into foreign waters. China now grows about four times as much 
fish as it catches, and huge quantities of that farmed seafood 
are exported, including to the United States. What's striking 
is where much of this expansion is happening--Xinjiang and 
Tibet.
    Fish farming typically takes place, elsewhere in the world, 
along coasts, in near-shore cages or pens. But China is 
expanding it in mountainous and desert regions that are among 
the most landlocked places on Earth. Our investigation mapped 
the supply chains of more than 1,200 fish farms in Xinjiang and 
Tibet. We found seafood from these farms going to dozens of 
countries, including the U.S., and to companies supplying 
public institutions such as military bases, public schools, and 
congressional cafeterias.
    Not only is that a violation of the UFLPA, but some of 
these farms in Xinjiang are certified as sustainable by U.S.-
based programs such as Best Aquaculture Practices, which seems 
mystifying in light of the U.S. law. I do not need to remind 
this Commission that Tibet and Xinjiang are among the most 
repressive regions in China. In Tibet, the government has 
relocated roughly half a million people, leveling villages and 
monasteries for projects including hydroelectric dams and fish 
farms. In Xinjiang, more than a million people have been held 
in detention camps while the government has carried out large-
scale land seizures, forced sterilizations, and criminal 
penalties for speaking native languages or practicing religious 
and cultural traditions.
    That seafood from these regions is still reaching the 
United States shows how much work remains. American seafood 
producers, grocers, and food service companies such as Sysco 
continue to rely on certification schemes that claim to police 
sustainability and forced labor in places like China, where 
spot checks at factories, ships, or farms are effectively 
impossible. China is also a place where asking tough questions 
about Uyghurs, Tibetans, or human rights generally can get a 
company, civil society group, or journalists expelled. Yet the 
cost savings are so enticing that industry and certifiers and 
journalists continue to make that Faustian bargain.
    Let's be clear: Repression in these regions is one of 
China's hidden costs. It is the externality that helps produce 
cheap seafood. It is part of China's competitive advantage and 
helps explain the trade surplus in this commodity. The UFLPA 
was enacted partly to level that playing field. So were tools 
like the Global Magnitsky Act. Customs and Border Protection 
has used Withhold Release Orders to stop imports suspected of 
being tied to forced labor. Congress has pressed companies 
through letters and hearings like this one, and tightened 
purchasing rules for federally funded institutions. Congress 
has also, in rare cases, forced companies to do due diligence, 
putting the burden on industry, rather than on journalists or 
civil society groups, to prove that supply chains are free of 
illegal or unethical hidden costs. The bottom line then is 
this: The tools exist. The question now is whether they'll get 
used.
    Thank you for your time.
    [The prepared statement of Ian Urbina appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you, Ian. I'm going to call an 
audible here and have Senator Whitehouse say a few opening 
lines before we turn to our other witnesses. Senator 
Whitehouse.

             STATEMENT OF HON. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE,
                  A SENATOR FROM RHODE ISLAND

    Senator Whitehouse. Thank you, Chairman. I appreciate you 
allowing me to interrupt the proceedings with a statement. You 
and I have worked together on the FISH Act, which has recently 
passed the Senate by unanimous consent and which I believe has 
the support of the Trump administration, at least the 
Department of State, and which has cleared, in the past, all of 
its House obstacles at one time or another. So I think we're in 
a good place to get it across the finish line at last. It 
addresses the problem of the international pirate fleet, which 
exists in a shadowy world of shell corporations and false 
flags. It is a machine of exploitation, both of common 
resources like international fisheries, and of human beings. 
Many of the pirate fleet vessels qualify as slave ships by any 
rational definition of that term.
    The Chinese fishing fleet has its own set of problems, the 
first of which is that it's not just a fishing fleet. If you 
have any doubts about that, go to the recent New York Times 
article that had an interactive display of the geolocation of 
the Chinese fishing fleet deployed in the Pacific, in the sort 
of South China Sea area. They were spread all over the place, 
and suddenly they all moved to create a strategic line across 
the sea. That was not ordinary fishing behavior. I went to an 
oceans conference in an island nation, and there was a Chinese 
fishing ship anchored, or just offshore--anchored or just 
holding position. It was not engaged in anything that looked 
like fishing behavior, but a lot of diplomats and people had 
come to that place for that conference, and I suspect that this 
vessel was trying to pick up whatever signals they could to 
find out what was going on among the people at that conference.
    So they're not just fishing, and we should be aware of 
that. When they are fishing, they're also a danger because they 
behave horribly with respect to fisheries. We heard about this 
for quite a long time. Mr. Urbina, your work on this has been 
good. Thank you. But particularly it came in a meeting at the 
Munich Security Conference, where the four-star general in 
charge of AFRICOM, without provocation by me, said, One of the 
things we need to do to be more effective in my command is to 
provide resources to our coastal partner nations to help them 
better understand when somebody is fishing illegally in their 
waters, who is fishing illegally in their waters, and maybe 
even give them some resources to go out and challenge the 
illegal fishing in their waters. Because the Chinese fishing 
fleet is going through other nations' economic zones and just 
shredding the fisheries.
    When I used to travel in Asia with Senator McCain, pretty 
much everywhere we stopped that was a coastal nation, when we 
had our major meeting with the head of state and I asked about 
how things were going with the Chinese fishing fleet, their 
heads practically exploded. Everybody had a story about abuses, 
damage, violent behavior, threatening behavior by the Chinese 
fishing fleet. So we have an enormous amount of work to do. The 
recent High Seas Treaty I think is a help. It'd be great if we 
could join that. In the meantime, the FISH Act is going to be 
really important. What it does is encourage investigations and 
sanctions and blacklisting of the bad behavior in these fleets. 
In addition to thanking Senator Sullivan for his partnership on 
the FISH Act, I also want to thank him for bringing us together 
repeatedly with Deputy Secretary of State Landau, who has 
become a convert, having heard from Dan and me about this 
subject, and who I think is increasingly making it a State 
Department priority.
    I'm delighted that these witnesses are here. For far too 
long the pirate fishing fleet and the Chinese fishing fleet 
have been allowed to do untold damage in not only international 
waters, but also in unenforced sovereign waters. The quicker we 
put an end to it, the better off we all will be. My Rhode 
Island fishermen and your Alaska fishermen will be well served 
when the international fisheries are less pressured by illegal 
fishing, leaving more for them to catch under law. Thank you.
    Chair Sullivan. Great. Thank you, Senator Whitehouse. Thank 
you for your leadership and partnership on these issues.
    We'll now return to our expert witnesses. Admiral, the 
floor is yours.

             STATEMENT OF SCOTT W. CLENDENIN, RADM,
          USCG (RET.), OWNER, DOG ZEBRA SOLUTIONS LLC

    Admiral Clendenin. Well, distinguished members of the 
Commission, I greatly appreciate the invitation to testify on 
this mission, which is just a very deep passion of mine. A lot 
of my comments will affirm the excellent introduction of the 
Commission to this topic.
    Illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, IUU fishing, 
is not just a conservation problem alone. It is a national 
security and food security issue that fuels global conflict. 
While other nations have large distant IUU fishing fleets, as 
has been said here, China has by far the largest, and has 
deployed it in a deliberate strategy to dominate the global 
seafood supply. Its distant-water fishing fleets operate in the 
waters of over 90 countries, often with state subsidies. IUU 
fishing fleets practice AIS manipulation and transshipments at 
sea to launder their illegal catch. They take critical fishing 
resources from countries in the Indo-Pacific, West Africa, and 
South America, where their fisheries are critical for their 
needed subsistence. They build dependencies and are responsible 
for human rights abuse at sea through forced labor, as we've 
discussed here.
    Admiral Paparo, Commander INDOPACOM, noted that 8 of the 10 
worst IUU fishing violators in the world are state-owned 
enterprises of the PRC. And they are a real driver of conflict 
in his AOR. China also uses fishing fleets as maritime militia 
in gray zone operations, creating what amounts to regional 
conflict through the proxy of coast guards and fishing fleets. 
Between 2011 and 2024, the Indo-Pacific saw 156 conflicts tied 
to fishing competition, and fisheries-related conflicts have 
increased twentyfold since the 1970s. IUU fishing is a vector 
for other transnational crime, including narcotics smuggling.
    Turning to the U.S. economy--the seafood sector, as has 
been discussed here, is worth over $320 billion and employs 2.3 
million Americans, yet 75 to 85 percent of the seafood consumed 
in America is imported, directly exposing us to IUU-tainted 
supply chains. As the President's recent EO on fisheries 
stated, this is unfair to our very well regulated fishing 
industry, just as was discussed here. Estimates suggest that up 
to one-third of wild-caught seafood consumed in the United 
States is linked to illegal fishing. This is the seafood on 
American dinner tables.
    So what can be done? I recommended three strategic shifts 
that are detailed in my written testimony. I'll be very brief 
here to summarize them. First, we should reinvigorate American 
maritime governance to counter IUU fishing. As a start, this 
issue should be treated with the same seriousness as we treat 
narcotics smuggling and piracy. Congress's MSAFE Act is the 
best U.S. initiative to counter IUU fishing to date. However, 
their work needs to be elevated strategically in importance and 
fully funded. Despite years of effort, they have had minimal 
impact on the tide of IUU fishing globally.
    Second, we need to protect America's maritime interests 
through alliances and trade. Regional fisheries management 
organizations have been forged through diplomatic compromise, 
where any member can block enforcement measures. That needs to 
evolve. We have proven that coordinated international 
operations, broad intelligence sharing, and collective 
diplomatic pressure can change IUU fleet behavior. U.S. trade 
negotiations are a critical instrument as well. All this needs 
to be consistently done at scale.
    Third, we need to strengthen public-private partnerships, 
developing a whole-of-society effort. As an example, in 
collaboration with the seafood industry, we need to improve 
seafood traceability and import controls that require 
documented legal origin for seafood entering U.S. markets. As 
another example, Operation JADE SPEAR showed what is possible 
when law enforcement, Customs, Department of Defense, 
regulatory actions, and the financial sector are combined, and 
resulted in the delisting of IUU-linked companies from NASDAQ. 
However, that was but one operation. To be effective, these 
types of operations must be replicated at scale.
    The opportunity before this Congress is to reframe our 
counter-IUU effort as the strategic national security and food 
security imperative that it is. I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Clendenin appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you, Admiral.
    Mr. Pinkert.

               STATEMENT OF HON. DEAN A. PINKERT,
         SPECIAL ADVISOR, CORPORATE ACCOUNTABILITY LAB

    Mr. Pinkert. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank the 
Commission for the opportunity to testify on one of the most 
urgent tasks in U.S. trade enforcement, enhancing efforts to 
address systematic use of forced labor in China's seafood 
industry. As you indicated, Mr. Chairman, I'm a special advisor 
to Corporate Accountability Lab, or CAL, a human rights non-
profit organization in Chicago. CAL is active in petitioning 
U.S. Customs and Border Protection for forced labor import bans 
under Section 307 of the Tariff Act of 1930.
    China is the world's largest seafood producer and exporter, 
as was indicated in prior testimony, supplying a substantial 
share of the fish and shellfish reaching American consumers. 
There is a documented state practice of using Uyghur and other 
minority group workers under coercive conditions in Chinese 
seafood production. Goods produced under these conditions enter 
U.S. commerce at a price advantage underwritten by human 
suffering.
    Congress has assembled a flexible toolkit of legislation 
that can be used to address this problem, including Section 
307, the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act, or UFLPA, Section 
1595a civil penalties, and Section 301 of the Trade Act of 
1974. The issue is not an absence of statutory authority. It is 
the failure to use these tools at scale, in combination, and 
with the creativity the circumstances demand.
    Section 307 prohibits the importation of goods produced in 
whole or in part by forced labor. And the UFLPA creates a 
rebuttable presumption that any goods mined, produced, or 
manufactured in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region or by 
entities on the UFLPA entity list are made with forced labor 
and are therefore inadmissible. These are powerful tools, but 
their effectiveness depends on, first, the U.S. Government's 
ability to trace goods from point of harvest through processing 
to the port of entry; two, the Forced Labor Enforcement Task 
Force's, or FLETF's, ability to maintain a timely cadence of 
placing companies on the entity list; and three, the 
willingness of CBP to move, under Section 307, directly when 
the UFLPA itself does not satisfy enforcement objectives. And I 
believe, Senator Sullivan, that this addresses the point that 
you made in your opening statement that sometimes we've got to 
move over to general enforcement rather than just the UFLPA.
    Chinese seafood supply chains are deliberately opaque. Fish 
caught in distant waters can be transshipped through 
intermediary ports, relabeled, commingled with locally sourced 
product, and reexported to the United States. This can render 
conventional documentation-based compliance less than fully 
effective. CBP should therefore require positive traceability 
documentation, vessel-level catch certificates, processing 
facility records, and chain of custody statements for high-risk 
seafood species and sourcing regions. Importers who cannot 
provide this documentation should simply not be permitted U.S. 
Customs entry of their merchandise.
    Now I mentioned very briefly about the entity list. I just 
want to underscore that the UFLPA entity list should be 
expanded and the FLETF should devote particular attention in 
this regard to Chinese seafood processors, cold chain logistics 
firms, and fishing fleet operators. It's also very important 
that Section 1595a authorizes civil penalties for importations 
made contrary to law. Forced labor importations in violation of 
Section 307 fit precisely into this authorization, yet 
penalties are rarely imposed in the forced labor context, and 
their deterrent potential has largely gone unrealized.
    A robust Section 1595a enforcement program would provide 
two benefits that detentions alone cannot. First, penalties 
impose a financial cost on importers who have not self-policed 
their supply chains and thereby create a direct economic 
incentive for upstream due diligence. Second, penalty 
provisions can generate evidence through CBP's demand for 
importer documentation and the importer's responses, 
documentation revealing supply chain structures otherwise 
hidden from regulators. And I hope, by the way, that we get to 
talk about the new regulations in China that seek to impose 
penalties on just that very kind of investigatory activity 
that's so important.
    Perhaps the most sophisticated challenge in this space is 
the practice of supply chain bifurcation--companies maintaining 
nominally compliant product lines for export to the United 
States while continuing to use state-imposed forced labor in 
lines destined for other markets or sold domestically. 
Compliance, in other words, is purely performative. Section 301 
authorizes the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) to investigate 
and respond to foreign acts, policies, or practices that are 
unreasonable or discriminatory and that burden or restrict U.S. 
commerce. A foreign government policy that induces companies to 
simulate compliance while preserving state-
imposed forced labor in non-U.S.-destined production is exactly 
the kind of state-implicated anticompetitive practice that 
Section 301 was designed to address. In short, it's harmful to 
U.S. producers.
    In conclusion, we have the legal tools to address forced 
labor in seafood supply chains, including where, as in China, 
it is an instrument of state policy. The myriad laws in this 
space are mutually reinforcing. When deployed with strategic 
coordination and resolve, they can impose meaningful costs on 
companies that seek to benefit from this egregious human rights 
violation. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Dean Pinkert appears in the 
Appendix.]
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Pinkert. I want to thank all 
the witnesses again. Excellent testimony. Before we turn to 
questions we have a short video that will be indicative of some 
of the forced labor issues that we wanted to show at this 
hearing. It puts a human face on modern slavery in the Chinese 
fishing fleet.
    (Video presentation begins.)
    Mr. Sahrudin. (Translated.) Conditions onboard were very 
poor. The captain was harsh. I worked hard day and night 
without any break days, and I was treated badly by the captain. 
Even I often got punched. I was even whipped using a mainline, 
the gear to pull the fish. Even worse, every time I got extra 
duty to guard behind the steering wheel, I was often stabbed 
with needles. And the food was not suitable to consume--it was 
like food fed to the ducks.
    My friends have the same fate as me. They were often 
stabbed with needles and slapped. At one point, the workers got 
united and demanded to go home because the bad treatment was 
frequent. The area that was punctured by a needle left a wound 
and got infected to the point of pus coming out and even 
swelling. I found it difficult just to walk.
    We united to demand the captain to send us home. Then the 
captain didn't allow me to go home, nor my colleagues. In the 
end the workers, including me, agreed to go on strike, 
demanding to be sent home. From there I asked the captain again 
for permission to be sent back to Indonesia. Eventually, the 
captain allowed me to go home, one month later.
    (Video presentation ends.)
    Chair Sullivan. Again, just an example of what our 
witnesses testified to, and some of the basic elements of the 
huge problem that we are facing here.
    I want to begin--Mr. Pinkert, I want to get your sense--it 
was very effective testimony--on the authorities that we have. 
And I'm wondering, from your perspective, we've banned the 
importation of Russian seafood--that's through Executive order. 
As I mentioned in my opening statement, the Trump 
administration recently 
reauthorized that Executive order. I've been working on this 
issue for many, many years. We finally got it done. We had a 
lot of American importers who were relying on Russian seafood 
who were fighting this measure. They said this is going to hurt 
them. And what it actually ended up doing, when it finally went 
into effect, is it had a positive impact on American fishermen, 
because they said, Well, I can't afford to not source my fish 
from Russia. And when I had discussions with these guys, I 
said, Well, sure you can. There's a great source. It's called 
American seafood from American fishermen.
    The Chinese and Russians are famous not just for their 
abusive practices, but for dumping seafood into our markets. 
Really, really drove down the price. So the benefit of banning 
the importation of Russian seafood--they tried to launder it 
through China and we nailed that down--was that the importers 
in America started to say, Well, I guess I should get it from 
the Alaskans, who are catching freedom fish sustainably. So 
it's actually really benefited our fishermen across the 
country. So I have two questions related to that experience. 
One, just a warning, right? If you're an American importer of a 
lot of Chinese seafood and you're watching this hearing, I 
would start kind of looking at new supply chains because I 
think your days are numbered. Because the goal here is to ban 
the importation of Chinese seafood under the laws that you 
currently say exist in the authority.
    But I think our CBP officials are getting better at the 
issue of traceability because of all the good work they've done 
on implementing the ban on Russian seafood, and then the 
laundered Russian seafood through China. They're getting quite 
good. But my question to you is, Do you think--under current 
law, all the laws that you mentioned--should we be looking to 
implement a ban, not just the bill that I got passed in the 
NDAA, which is banning the importation of Chinese seafood for 
military commissaries and military dining facilities, but a 
comprehensive ban on Chinese seafood?
    Do you think that, given current practices, given what you 
know, given what others have testified to and have provided 
evidence of, whether it's the Section 307, the UFLPA, Section 
301, is there enough evidence and authority for a comprehensive 
ban on Chinese seafood into the United States under current 
law? Do you think we meet that standard? And do you think that 
CBP is gaining the ability--I know the traceability issues are 
challenging--but do you think the CBP is gaining the ability to 
implement such a ban, since they are currently doing it with 
Russia, and they're doing it quite effectively? And maybe I'll 
pose that to you first, but I think I can pose that question to 
all the witnesses.
    Mr. Pinkert. Thank you, Senator, for that question. I would 
start by saying I agree with you that the capabilities have 
improved dramatically just in the past two years, two and a 
half years, when I've been watching it very, very carefully. 
Having said that, I think that the answer, and I kind of 
touched on your question in the testimony, the more aggressive 
use of Withhold Release Orders by CBP, including regional 
Withhold Release Orders, I think would go a long way toward 
addressing the concerns that you're expressing. I think that 
it's one thing to say we have the Uyghur Forced Labor 
Prevention Act, and that has very specific triggers, and 
there's a rebuttable presumption, as you know, under the UFLPA. 
But more generally, can we use the Section 307 process to do 
regional Withhold Release Orders in a way that doesn't hinge 
specifically on the use of Uyghur forced labor?
    Chair Sullivan. Okay. Good.
    Admiral, do you have a view on this?
    Admiral Clendenin. Yes, sir. I think, more strategically--I 
was a co-chair in the early days of the MSAFE with my NOAA and 
State Department colleagues--every time we had public comment, 
traceability was one of the number one issues and suggestions 
that came up. I think----
    Chair Sullivan. As a way to not take action, or what?
    Admiral Clendenin. No. Traceability had to be pursued and 
had to be implemented and had to be part of our customs 
procedures. Our interagency partners at that point were not 
very aggressive with that, as far as seafood, and now it looks 
like they are forming around that.
    Chair Sullivan. I think they're getting much better, right?
    Admiral Clendenin. They're getting much better.
    Chair Sullivan. The ban on Russian seafood has been 
comprehensive and not always easy to enforce, but I think 
they're actually doing a really good job.
    Admiral Clendenin. Yes, sir. And it does take resources, 
obviously, to make sure they have those, and it requires 
consistency across the board. So I think if you read public 
opinion right now, there's still room to improve there, but I 
think we're moving in the right direction with that. I think 
we've done a good job on the southern border. I think as we 
look at the importation of things like this into the Nation, 
there's some things that we can do to do better on that front.
    Chair Sullivan. So let me ask, Mr. Urbina, your testimony--
you have expertise. How do you think we are doing? I want to 
have, in some ways, a followup on the great work you've done 
previously on the forced labor on ships and processing 
facilities. And then, to your testimony today, if there is a 
rebuttable presumption under the UFLPA on forced labor in 
certain parts of China, and you are going to publish something 
here very soon that shows there's enormous amounts of 
aquaculture going on in this part of China--which, as your 
testimony reveals, kind of makes no sense, right? You're not 
near an ocean. They're doing it probably because of the labor 
costs of using slave labor.
    So do you think that that's going to highlight again the 
potential to ban any aquaculture from China, given how much 
they produce in the Xinjiang province and other areas? And then 
if you want to comment with an update on where you think we 
have been from your previous excellent reporting, and what the 
law, from your perspective, demands that we do, given that 
there is a lot of slave labor, forced labor, going on in the 
seafood supply chain directly from China?
    Mr. Urbina. I think, on your first question about a China-
wide ban, I don't have an answer, but I do have a restatement 
of the question, in the sense that the UFLPA is a fairly 
circumscribed and effective tool. But there's also law that 
clearly says products tied to forced labor in general should 
not be coming into the U.S. And yet we have a place that 
produces a lot of products where that law is unenforceable 
because it's so opaque and impenetrable. To me, that's the 
simplification of the point you're making. If we have a law but 
we can't enforce it vis-a-vis any products coming from one 
certain place because it's a black box, we can't do real 
audits, we can't check on the truthfulness of papers coming 
from that place, then there needs to be some strong action to 
fix that so that we can ensure the forced labor law that's in 
general is enforceable.
    How you do that is your job, but I think it needs to be 
much wider. I do think the genius in UFLPA is the element of 
rebuttable presumption, which shifts the burden off of the 
likes of us, and even you, and puts it back on those who are 
making money from this Faustian bargain. And says if you want 
to do business there, you need to prove that it is legal. We 
don't have to prove that it's illegal. So to me, that's a 
formula for moving forward.
    To your second question, how are things going--you know, 
Dean has the best view. He's down in the weeds and watching 
these cases. My kind of high-altitude, removed view of how 
things are going in the last couple of years is there was a lot 
of action from you folks in Congress, thankfully. And executive 
departments sat up and took notice. There was a lot less action 
from within the industry in terms of solving [this]. And many 
of the key players we identified as relying on North Korean or 
Uyghur labor changed their name and kept their address, and 
suddenly they were not on the list anymore.
    This sort of gimmickry is a very simple solution to get 
around the tools we have. And we did document that happening 
right after the reporting. But I do agree with you that Customs 
and Border and other agencies began figuring out how they need 
to take this more seriously, and try to staff up to enforce 
those tools better.
    Chair Sullivan. Mr. Chairman.
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Let me just ask a couple of questions. In 1992, Frank Wolf, 
Scott Flipse--our chief of staff who's behind me here--and I 
visited China. We went to Beijing Prison No. 1, where Tiananmen 
Square activists had been--unfortunately, about 40 of them were 
still there, incarcerated under slave-like conditions. And we 
were there in large part to focus on forced labor. The fact 
that the Laogai was producing unbelievably large numbers of 
products that were at all of our stores, K-mart, you name the 
place, you would find it. If you traced it back, you would all 
of a sudden say, Oh my God, it was made by an activist or 
religious freedom prisoner, prisoner of conscience. And totally 
against Smoot-Hawley, totally against our laws.
    And Clinton pushed this idea, because I held a whole series 
of hearings on it--a whole series of hearings, that we had an 
MOU with China. So I looked at it carefully, asked a lot of 
hard questions, met with our people in the Beijing embassy, who 
were part of the enforcement. And they were like the Maytag 
repairman. Remember that old commercial? They have no work to 
do because they just had no work to do. It was so flawed as an 
agreement. We would tell them when we suspected something, and 
then they would investigate and get back to us within about 60 
days. We had trouble getting visas for people to go and 
investigate.
    So we actually had proof. We got socks, jelly shoes. Scott 
actually put some of those socks in his back pocket. We went to 
Customs, and they put an import ban on anything coming out of 
that, because we had actionable information. But other than 
that, the MOU was an absolute farce. The whole idea of proof of 
origin, and trying to determine that, has been a vexing 
problem. And rebuttable presumption has helped, to a large 
extent, but not fully, to at least shift that paradigm in our 
favor, and in the favor of exploited workforces.
    We've had hearings in this Commission, as the Chairman 
knows, where we focused on the fact that the so-called 
investigators for our big corporations were denied access when 
they went. They come back and they say, See, it's all good--we 
got a certification. So we asked the hard questions. In one 
case they interviewed people who told them, with the communist 
minders sitting right there, the secret police, you know, What 
is going on? You think you're going to say they don't have 
bargaining rights--but there's not any kind of protection for 
workers. So my point is that origin, the exploitation of the 
workforce, we kid ourselves if we think, absent the FISH Act 
and the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act, very aggressively 
implemented, will ever stop Xi Jinping from dumping all of 
these slave-made goods on our shores.
    So I would ask you again, it's been a problem. The MOU 
was--and they would come up, they being the Clinton leaders, 
Assistant Secretary for Human Rights and Democracy and Labor 
and others--and say, We've got this MOU. And I said, Doesn't 
work. Quit using that as a false defense for your lack of due 
diligence to try to stop this. And I think we're now dealing 
with it. And when the Chairman's bill becomes law, and I do 
believe it will become law, it will be the biggest game changer 
on this issue ever. The Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act is 
important. It had problems with de minimis, you know, numbers, 
although that's been reduced. They were gaming that big time, 
they being the Chinese Communist Party. And there's always a 
problem of suggesting it's coming from somewhere else.
    I would point out that the video we just watched and the 
lawsuit against Bumble Bee is being undertaken pursuant to my 
law, the Trafficking Victims Protection Act, which awaits 
fuller implementation even as we meet, but at least--and the 
judge--Judge Bashant, has denied Bumble Bee's motion to 
dismiss. And that was good. She's a district judge. And 
hopefully that will proceed. I mean, exploiting people in plain 
sight. So certification procedures, we've got to do a better 
job on that. The law will be there, I think, on the fish.
    There's also the issue of farmed fish, and concerns about 
how healthy farmed fish are. I did not know until you just said 
it that there's four times the number of farmed fish as they 
catch. I mean, that's a frightening statistic because it breeds 
sickness and a lot of other things that are underappreciated by 
so many. So I would ask you maybe to elaborate on that. We've 
got tools. We need more tools. And I can't say enough--and I 
hope the people in Alaska, the people of New Jersey, the people 
in Rhode Island, and all the other places where fish are so 
important, realize--that this historic bill, soon to become 
law, by the Chairman, is the game changer.
    Because, as you pointed out, Admiral, there's concerns that 
the AFRICOM general pointed out as well--the commander--that 
we're dealing with a nefarious fleet for other reasons too, not 
only the way they're exploiting workers and undercutting 
anything that even comes close to free and fair trade, and 
completely violative of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act. 
But this law will make all the difference in the world.
    Ian, if you want to--and, again, I can't thank you enough 
for what you have done. I mean, when we met before The New 
Yorker article came out, you briefed our whole staff about how 
important it was, and we coincided our hearing to try to 
amplify the message of what you and your investigators have 
done. Again, you're the great journalist, and [Chair Sullivan], 
you're the great lawmaker who made all the difference on this 
issue. And I can't thank you enough.
    Ian.
    Mr. Urbina. Thank you. I would just touch on the TVPA and 
its importance, and also the importance of what's happening 
with that Bumble Bee case. It's a bit in the weeds, but the 
judge rejected the argument by the company in that case that 
the company was not liable for what happened to that guy that 
you saw because of the sort of shell-game nature of how 
globalized product handoff happens now, that that company 
couldn't possibly know what was going on on the ship and 
therefore that company shouldn't be held responsible for it. 
This is the sort of fundamental playbook maneuver of modern 
litigation when it comes to these cases, and it's problematic 
beyond seafood.
    And the judge in that case said, You know, you were 
certified and participant in a shared program, and therefore 
you're clearly connected with what was coming off of that ship 
and what was going on on the ship. Therefore, I'm not going to 
allow that argument to fly. This is important precedent and 
should be watched very closely to see if that holds, because it 
will be the first big step toward, A, making TVPA, your 
legislation, more enforceable, and connecting the entities that 
are really getting wealthy off of the forced labor that's way 
down the supply chain, and ensuring that these supply chains 
have accountability and responsibility all the way up to the 
ones who really care the most, which are the branded, profiting 
institutions. So I would only say that the law is very 
important, but the way it's being gamed in the courts is also 
really important. And that case could be a boon for better 
enforcement going forward.
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you.
    Chair Sullivan. Senator Kim.
    Senator Kim. Yes, thank you, Senator. Thank you, 
Congressman, for your leadership on this.
    I only have a couple minutes here before I have to run for 
votes, but I wanted to ask Mr. Urbina--I wanted to start with 
you. I mean, what you talked about in terms of the growth of 
the aquaculture industry in Xinjiang and in Tibet. I mean, it's 
very alarming. And I wanted to just get a little bit more sense 
from you just what you see as motivating this. I mean, is it 
driven primarily by just the low cost of the forced labor, or 
are there other political considerations, or other things of 
that nature?
    Mr. Urbina. It's a great question. It's not driven by a 
desire to cash in on forced labor. It's driven by a larger 
state-building agenda by the Chinese government. Very wise. 
Very Chinese. It's one part--look, there are 68,000 fish farms 
on the east coast of China. There are 1,200 in western 
landlocked Tibet and Xinjiang. So it's a small percentage. It's 
also the fastest growing. It's a half billion dollars of export 
coming out of that region. And in the last two years, it's 
grown by 16 percent, more than anywhere else in the country. So 
while it's small, it's cutting edge. It's the tip of the spear. 
And it has a lot to do with two big motivations. One is, China 
needs to settle that inland west. It's a restive, challenging 
population, to put it diplomatically. And China wants to 
consolidate it, to control it, so pushing more and more 
industry in there--hydroelectric, solar, tomatoes, cotton, fish 
farms--is one way to settle it. That's part of the big agenda. 
The other agenda is China put 30 percent of its aquaculture 
along its--well, 30 percent of its eastern coast is taken up by 
aquaculture. Extremely polluting and extremely overfished. So 
those waters have plummeted. So they need to figure out how to 
decrease the pressure--of what their industry is doing on their 
own coasts. How? Move inland. Where? Move to depopulated 
inland. Where's that? Far west.
    Third, there's a great PR story of Chinese state-led 
ingenuity that it's eager to push--Look at what we've done with 
solar, look at what we're doing on climate. All commendable and 
impressive, but also part of the China PR program to show that 
Xinjiang isn't a human rights story, it's an innovation story, 
it's an engineering story. Growing fish in the desert is a 
great engineering story, right? And so they're pushing that on 
social media. These are the big reasons they're pushing inland.
    Senator Kim. And you're testifying here saying that some of 
the seafood is reaching the United States, you know, reaching 
public institutions. Where is the biggest enforcement failure 
here? Is it the importer due diligence? Is it customs 
screenings? And what is it that we can do better to try to 
verify--you know, to be able to push back on this and be able 
to have credible ways for certification bodies to be able to 
verify the labor and sustainability claims from that region?
    Mr. Urbina. Sorry to do this to Dean again, but the nuts 
and bolts of how UFLPA works, how Withhold Release Orders work, 
are super important here. Oftentimes it's how slow it is, the 
bar of evidentiary standard for getting a company added. These 
are some of the biggest reasons that those two tools alone 
aren't more effective. I think that's one place. Funding, staff 
levels, how the law is being interpreted, and how recent the 
testimony has to be, what level of proof is required for forced 
labor. UFLPA, luckily, you don't need that. If you're from 
Xinjiang, it's proven. But for other places, on ships, very 
tough. These are the things that are boring, but also super 
consequential in how effective it can be.
    I think the biggest issues are the ones that I focus on, 
which are putting the responsibility less on your shoulders, 
and less on Customs and Border, and the executive, and putting 
it back more on industry due diligence and having them prove 
that it's not happening. They're the ones that are making the 
money off of it. They should also have the burden. They also 
are in command of their own supply chains. We have to fight 
and, you know, go out to sea and do all sorts of crazy things 
to figure out their supply chains. They're sitting on the data. 
And if they wanted to police their own supply chains, if they 
were forced to, they could. But right now, they don't have to.
    And China makes it especially easy, because they can throw 
up their hands and say, Well, it's certified by Best 
Aquaculture Practices or whomever. So we think that's pretty 
good. But if you ask them, does anyone actually--what does that 
mean? They say, Well, you should ask them, and we do the best 
we can in China. Those are the places where I think the biggest 
fixes have to happen. And putting pressure on industry to fix 
that and requiring them to do so is probably the biggest thing 
that you folks could do.
    Senator Kim. Well, thanks for shining a light on this. And 
for the three of you, just the incredibly important information 
that we have. I hope we can take real action here to be able to 
step up and stop some of the most nefarious aspects of this and 
be able to get things better for our fishermen in New Jersey 
and elsewhere. So thanks so much for putting this together. 
Thank you.
    Chair Sullivan. Thank you, Senator Kim.
    I'm going to go to round two here. We do have a vote, so 
we're going to keep this kind of quick, but I want to begin. 
Admiral, your testimony--I wanted to ask two questions. You 
testified that MSAFE created a framework but is under resourced 
and under-
utilized. Where do you think the principal breakdown in that is 
with regard to MSAFE funding, interagency coordination, 
operational capacity?
    And then, related to that--we're hoping to get my FISH Act 
over the goal line here soon, and that does have a big role for 
our great men and women in the Coast Guard. I chair the Coast 
Guard Subcommittee in the Commerce Committee. What kind of 
specific 
resources do you think we need to make the Coast Guard more 
efficient at meeting IUU fishing interdiction goals? You may 
have seen in the Working Families Tax Cuts Act last year, we 
made the biggest investment in the Coast Guard in American 
history, $25 billion. Huge. Twenty-two new cutters, 16 new 
icebreakers, 40 new H-60 helos. I mean, we are investing 
massively in the Coast Guard. Are there other Coast Guard-
related priorities that can help on the IUU fishing front? So 
two questions for you.
    Admiral Clendenin. Well, thank you very much for those 
questions, Senator. They're very important. On the MSAFE, 
again, it's a very laudable effort. It's the only of its kind 
and it brings together departments and agencies in a very 
unique way. We've talked about the complexity, and it's outside 
the Coast Guard wheelhouse, but of customs enforcement and 
traceability. You look at a JADE SPEAR-type investigation, it 
involved many departments and agencies. And that requires very, 
very detailed and intricate work between the departments and 
agencies.
    As I compare the MSAFE to other work that I've done at the 
national level, when I think about some of the efforts I had at 
the National Security Council, and we were working on a 
strategy in Central America that was routinely briefed at the 
cabinet level, and then I also had the opportunity to work 
transnational organized crime in the strategic division that 
was also briefed at the cabinet level, I look at an incredible 
opportunity here. With your FISH Act, with the MSAFE that's 
already established, with the president's EO that addresses 
having to get after importation of IUU fishing, it connects us 
to both the executive branch and the legislative branch, and 
resources can be brought to the table.
    The one thing I would say is, when we work in the MSAFE, we 
can't just be cataloging everything that we're already doing. 
Those efforts have to focus on what needs to be done, and that 
sometimes involves changing what agencies are doing, changing 
their emphasis, and funding additional lines of effort, and 
that's hard work. So having to routinely report to Congress and 
the executive branch on how to get ahead, using the MSAFE and 
all these, this is the time to do it. I think this is the time 
to rejuvenate all the efforts against IUU.
    Chair Sullivan. Great.
    I'm going to ask a final question of Mr. Pinkert and Mr. 
Urbina. They're related, but you might have different angles on 
it. But it's essentially, if we wanted to have measurable--
either from Congress or the executive branch--results in this 
area in the next 12 months, where would you focus the efforts? 
Tougher import enforcement? Stronger procurement bans? Pressure 
on certifiers? Exposure of brands using these supply chains and 
slave labor? Entity list designations? Hopefully, my bill is 
going to have the sanctions list component to it when it 
becomes law. A Section 301 investigation?
    Where would you--and maybe it's not one to just prioritize, 
but to get action and, to be honest, to get publicity on the 
importance of this--which all of you have done a really good 
job at, what would you think in the next 12 months the most 
effective, impactful 
action is that we, either in Congress or the executive branch, 
could take? We've been working with USTR. They're looking at a 
301 investigation. I think they're already undertaking part of 
the investigation aspect. So I think we're pushing on an open 
door with this administration on a lot of this. But I'm just 
curious, from your expertise, where would you prioritize 
efforts? Why don't we start with you, Mr. Pinkert.
    Mr. Pinkert. Thank you. I would note that the Seafood 
Competitiveness Executive Order specifically talked about using 
Section 301. I would just add that, of course, this bifurcation 
of supply chains issue is a really, really critical aspect of 
that. And they should really be looking into that. As far as 
other things, you mentioned the entity list. And I think we 
need to kind of set the scene for the difficulties that have 
occurred in the last year or so with the entity list, and the 
fact that there's just not much movement in that area. This is 
an interagency group, seven agencies, and some observer 
agencies as well, and it's chaired by the DHS. And there's been 
a lot of turnover among staff. There's been a lot of turnover 
among the political appointees that are charged with keeping 
this program going and keeping it robust. And quite frankly, we 
don't know what the priority is in terms of having robust
additions to the entity list. So I think that--you know, Ian 
talked a lot about the problem of labor transfers within China. 
And in fact, one of his former colleagues, Daniel Murphy, has 
also written quite a bit about that. In order to really address 
labor transfers, we have to get the entity list up and moving, 
and moving forward.
    And then finally, civil penalties. That's a totally--I 
don't want to say totally neglected, but mostly neglected, area 
of authority. You've got to make companies pay. Ian talked 
about the TVPA and the venture liability under the TVPA. These 
companies are in a venture making money off of forced labor, in 
many instances. And we need to make them accountable, not just 
in terms of shaming but also financial penalties. Thank you.
    Chair Sullivan. Great.
    Mr. Urbina, I'll give you the last word, and then I'm going 
to turn it over to Chairman Smith to wrap up the hearing. I am 
being called by the cloakroom to get down and vote, but I want 
to hear your final answer. You have a lot of views on this, I'm 
sure, and I want to hear them.
    Mr. Urbina. I'll be very brief. I think what Dean said is 
100 percent correct. It's a sort of bottom-up strategy. I think 
a top-down strategy would be--the civil penalties point is 
akin--focusing on the certification industry, and also on the 
largest single corporate players, be they grocers or seafood 
companies, that the U.S. Government relies on to provide its 
seafood in lots of different places. And figuring out to what 
degree those players alone, through purchasing policy, can be 
pressured to change how well they police their supply chains by 
way of demands from you folks. If you want access to this 
market, then you've got to change your approach to verifying to 
us that you're not tied to these regions. I think that will 
affect the marketplace globally and have trickle-down effects 
that are more efficient than legislation sometimes.
    Chair Sullivan. Great.
    Well, listen, I want to thank the witnesses. I'm going to 
turn it over to Chairman Smith here. Excellent testimony. As we 
wrap up, if other members of the Commission have additional 
questions, they will submit them for the record. If you can try 
to get answers back to those other members in the next two 
weeks, we'll leave the hearing record open. But again, I want 
to thank the outstanding witnesses, all three of you. The 
importance of this hearing--I think it's gaining steam in the 
executive branch and in Congress, in a bipartisan way. I think 
that's really positive. Your work, all three of you, has been 
exceptional, and we really appreciate it.
    Mr. Chairman, I'm going to turn it over to you. Thank you, 
sir. We will be in touch.
    Co-chair Smith. Thank you. I want to thank Chairman 
Sullivan. Yes, to underscore, we have a vote now over on the 
House side, so I'm going to have to leave momentarily.
    I want to thank you for your testimony, for your guidance, 
your wisdom, counsel, breakthrough work. But just to underscore 
how historic and how difficult it is to get anything passed of 
this caliber, I've had the Forced Organ Harvesting Act pass 406 
to 1 in the House. It has passed in the last Congress, passed 
in this one. I can't get it passed in the Senate. I mean, it's 
an abomination what Xi Jinping is doing to the Uyghurs, to the 
Falun Gong, and to others. You know, tens of thousands of young 
people, average age 28, having their organs ripped out--you 
know, killed.
    My first hearing on forced organ harvesting was 30 years 
ago in 1996. I had a doctor who actually testified as to 
exactly what they were doing. It was low-level exploitation and 
human rights abuse then in terms of numbers, but now it's 
industrial size. And I can't get the bill out of the Senate. So 
I want you to know how important and precedent-setting it is 
for the Chairman to have gotten his bill--the FISH Act--passed 
in the Senate. It was a brilliant
maneuver on his part. He got it. And it will pass in the House, 
I guarantee it. So I just--you know, I hope people realize 
that. Otherwise, we'd have another great bill sitting and 
languishing in committee that never moves. But now we have a 
really good, solid, actionable piece of legislation that he has 
authored.
    I know that there are some 30 entity list proposals that 
have not gone forward. I'm not sure if any of them deal with 
seafood. Maybe, Mr. Pinkert, you might know. Part of the answer 
just a moment ago was that there's been a lot of change of 
personnel and the like, but we need to get a more laser-like 
focus on doing just that. And implementation, implementation, 
implementation. And when this bill becomes law, and the FISH 
Act similarly, implementation, implementation, implementation.
    I have to run--but I can't thank you enough. I mean, you 
have done breakthrough work, all three of you. And the Chairman 
has done, I think, the biggest heavy lift imaginable to get the 
FISH Act passed in the U.S. Senate. I do have a vote, so I'm 
going to have to leave. The hearing is adjourned, and I thank 
you.
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                    Prepared Statement of Ian Urbina

                The Outlaw Ocean Project Investigation:
            China's Forced Labor in the Aquaculture Industry

    Thank you, Chair Sullivan and Co-chair Smith, and the rest of the 
Commission, for inviting me to speak. It's an honor to be back before 
you.
    The last time I was here was in 2023, when the Commission asked me 
to testify about an investigation by my news team, The Outlaw Ocean 
Project, into China's role in global seafood. That reporting focused on 
China's more than 6,500 industrial fishing vessels and its hundreds of 
processing plants. It documented debt bondage, passport confiscation, 
avoidable deaths, fatal beatings, trafficked workers, illegal fishing, 
and a state-coordinated program forcing thousands of workers from 
Xinjiang and North Korea into seafood processing factories. Much of the 
product from those factories was bound for the United States, including 
American military bases and congressional cafeterias, in violation of 
the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act and the Countering America's 
Adversaries Through Sanctions Act. In the wake of that reporting, 
Congress, the executive branch, and a small handful of seafood 
companies took action.
    I'm here today to discuss our current investigation, which will be 
published in the coming weeks and examines the global aquaculture 
industry, including China's role in it.
    By way of context: seafood is the world's most heavily traded food 
commodity by value, and aquaculture, or fish farming, is the industry's 
fastest-growing sector. As of 2022, more than half of all seafood 
worldwide was farmed rather than caught at sea.
    This growth has been driven in part by a marketing claim: that fish 
farming is sustainable because it reduces pressure on wild fisheries. 
The problem is that for much of the industry, that claim is false. 
Roughly two-thirds of global aquaculture depends on feed made from 
wild-caught fish, in the form of fishmeal and fish oil. Think of the 
seafood people eat most: salmon, shrimp, tilapia, and sea bream. In 
other words, many farmed fish are fed the very wild fish the industry 
claims it is helping to spare.
    Not all aquaculture works this way. Roughly a third of global fish 
farming focuses on non-fed species such as clams, oysters, and mussels. 
That form of aquaculture can indeed be sustainable.
    But most fish farming depends on feed fish. And our investigation 
found that this segment of the industry prefers to begin the story of 
sustainability and ethical sourcing at the farm. If you start the story 
earlier, with the feed, a very different picture emerges.
    Our recent investigation, called ``Food for Feed,'' did just that. 
Over the past two years, we mapped and reported on roughly 1,400 
fishmeal plants worldwide, boarded and inspected ships supplying them, 
traced the farms to which the feed goes, and tracked the resulting 
seafood to document the hidden costs.
    In Russia's Far East, we documented forced labor on ships, farms, 
and in factories. In Western Sahara, we found the industry helping prop 
up Morocco's military occupation. In Gambia and Mauritania we found 
fish that once fed local communities increasingly diverted into 
fishmeal factories for export, worsening food insecurity. In countries 
including India and Peru, the industry was tied to at least 80 
incidents of civil unrest, some violent, often labor strikes and 
community protests over polluted water or the stench from factories 
cooking thousands of tons of decomposing fish. In Senegal, fishmeal has 
pushed local fishers out of work, so that many are selling or 
repurposing their boats to flee to Europe, usually by making the 
roughly 930-mile journey to Spain's Canary Islands, a route that 
claimed more than 3,000 lives in 2025.
    These are what economists call externalities: costs pushed onto 
distant countries and communities, while wealthier consumers enjoy the 
luxury seafood produced as a result.
    So what does this have to do with China? China is the largest 
producer, exporter, and consumer of seafood in the world. It is also 
the single biggest exporter of seafood to the United States. And it is 
rapidly expanding fish farming, so it does not have to send as many 
vessels onto the high seas or into foreign waters. China now grows 
about four times as much fish as it catches, and huge quantities of 
that farmed seafood are exported, including to the United States.
    What is striking is where much of this expansion is happening: 
Xinjiang and Tibet. Fish farming typically takes place along coasts, in 
near-shore cages or pens. But China is expanding it in mountainous and 
desert regions that are among the most landlocked places on Earth.
    Our investigation mapped the supply chains of more than 1,200 fish 
farms in Xinjiang and Tibet. We found seafood from these farms going to 
a dozen countries, including the United States, and to companies 
supplying public institutions such as military bases, public schools, 
and congressional cafeterias. Not only is that a violation of the 
Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act, but some of these farms in Xinjiang 
are certified as sustainable by U.S.-based programs such as Best 
Aquaculture Practices, which seems mystifying in light of U.S. law.
    I do not need to remind this Commission that Tibet and Xinjiang are 
among the most repressive regions in China. In Tibet, the government 
has relocated roughly half a million people, leveling villages and 
monasteries for projects including hydroelectric dams and fish farms. 
According to a 2024 Human Rights Watch report, this effort has relied 
on coercive tactics including repeated home visits, threats of 
prosecution, and warnings that utilities could be cut off for those who 
refused to move. In response to such policies, at least 169 Tibetans 
have set themselves on fire, often on camera, outside police stations, 
monasteries, or public squares. In Xinjiang, more than a million people 
have been held in detention camps, while the government has carried out 
large-scale land seizures, forced sterilizations, and criminal 
penalties for speaking native languages or practicing religious and 
cultural traditions.
    That seafood from these regions is still reaching the United States 
shows how much work remains. American seafood producers, grocers, and 
food-service companies such as Sysco continue to rely on certification 
schemes that claim to police sustainability and forced labor in places 
like China, where spot checks at factories, ships, or farms are 
effectively impossible. China is also a place where asking tough 
questions about Uyghurs, Tibetans, or human rights generally, can get a 
company, civil society group, or journalist expelled. Yet the cost 
savings are so enticing that industry and certifiers continue to make 
that Faustian bargain.
    Let's be clear: repression in these regions is one of China's 
hidden costs. It is the externality that helps produce cheap seafood. 
It is part of China's competitive advantage and helps explain the trade 
surplus in this commodity.
    The UFLPA was enacted partly to level that playing field. So were 
tools like the Global Magnitsky Act. Customs and Border Protection has 
used Withhold Release Orders to stop imports suspected of being tied to 
forced labor. Congress has pressed companies through letters and 
hearings like this one, tightened purchasing rules for federally funded 
institutions, and, in rare cases, forced companies to do due diligence, 
putting the burden on industry, rather than journalists or civil 
society, to prove that supply chains are free of illegal or unethical 
hidden costs.
    Bottom line: The tools exist. The question now is whether they'll 
get used.
    Thank you for your time today.

     Prepared Statement of Rear Admiral (Ret.) Scott W. Clendenin,
                      United States Coast Guard *

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* Strategic Advisor to the report The Geopolitics of the Ocean--Why 
Healthy Seas Are Vital to America's National Security (World Wildlife 
Fund, 2025)

I. Opening Statement

    Distinguished Members of the Commission: thank you for the 
opportunity to testify. My name is Scott Clendenin. I am a retired Rear 
Admiral from the United States Coast Guard, where I last served as 
Assistant Commandant for Response Policy. I am here in my personal 
capacity today, but also as a Senior Advisor to the recently published 
World Wildlife Fund's and International Conservation Caucus 
Foundation's report The Geopolitics of the Ocean: Why Healthy Seas Are 
Vital to America's National Security. It brings together data, 
analysis, and first-hand perspectives from five former senior national 
security officials--including two U.S. Ambassadors, a former Acting 
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Administrator, 
and the 26th Commandant of the U.S. Coast Guard--all of whom have 
served the Nation in high-level leadership positions for decades.
    It is important to note up front that my opinions and views 
expressed in my testimony are my own and in no way reflect the official 
position of the U.S. Government, U.S. Coast Guard, the World Wildlife 
Fund, or any other organizations.
    I want to be direct with this congressional commission--Illegal, 
Unreported, and Unregulated (IUU) Fishing is much more than a fisheries 
management or conservation problem. IUU Fishing is a national security 
crisis that fuels conflict and transnational organized crime; it 
finances cartels; enables arms and drug smuggling; is intertwined with 
human trafficking and forced labor; undermines the sovereignty of our 
allies while directly defrauding American consumers, and creates an 
unfair playing field for U.S. domestic fishermen who have to compete 
with illegally caught fish on the market.
    The principal driver of IUU Fishing is the People's Republic of 
China (PRC). Beijing has for decades conceived of and deployed a 
strategy to access, lay claim to, and dominate the global supply of 
seafood in order to exercise power around the world, including through 
gray-zone operations where its global fishing fleet is leveraged as a 
maritime militia. Beijing has used policy incentives, economic 
subsidies, and political encouragement for its distant-water fishing 
fleet to fan out over the world to further the PRC's natural resources 
and geopolitical interests. As Admiral Samuel Paparo, Commander, U.S. 
Indo-Pacific Command, has stated: ``Eight of the 10 world's worst IUU 
fishing violators are state-owned enterprises of the People's Republic 
of China . . . it has the potential to be a real driver of conflict.'' 
In short, our nation's action on IUU Fishing could determine whether we 
experience peace or conflict, security or instability, prosperity or 
economic challenges.
    To that end, I am here to reaffirm that America is a maritime 
nation and that the ocean underpins our economic strength, our food 
supply chains, our strategic influence, and our homeland security. I am 
also here to urge our Nation's elected officials to treat the 
governance of the ocean--and the enforcement against those who prey 
upon it--with the same strategic imperative that we bring to piracy, 
narcotics smuggling, energy security, rare earth minerals, and 
strategic competition with our adversaries.

II. IUU Fishing Is a National Security Challenge

    Let me begin with the scope of the problem. Under my tenure in the 
U.S. Coast Guard, we declared IUU Fishing to be the world's top 
maritime security challenge--surpassing piracy. The financial losses 
from IUU Fishing are estimated at 16 to 36 billion dollars annually. 
Estimates indicate that potentially up to one third of wild-caught 
seafood consumed in the United States is linked to illegal fishing. 
That is seafood on American dinner tables, in American restaurants, and 
in American grocery stores--caught illegally, often by forced labor, 
processed in opaque supply chains, and sold at a price advantage over 
the American fishermen who play by the rules. President Trump in his 
recent Executive orders on Restoring American Seafood Competitiveness 
and Unleashing American Commercial Fishing in the Pacific addressed 
this issue of fundamental fairness for our American fishermen. I agree 
with this assessment, and we need to meet this moment because this 
issue goes beyond economic unfairness to our domestic industry--it is a 
direct subsidy to criminal networks.
    Many sources and initiatives document how IUU Fishing is a driver 
of conflict and deeply intertwined with the most dangerous 
transnational threats America faces. For example:

      In the Indo-Pacific: China's distant-water fishing fleets 
dominate the maritime domain. Between 2011 to 2024, the region 
experienced 156 conflict events in the Pacific Islands in what amounts 
to regional conflict through the proxy of coast guards and fishing 
fleets. Now the tuna stocks are shifting eastward due to warming 
waters, a trend likely to spark escalated conflicts.

      There are strong indications that distant-water fishing 
fleets are involved in drug smuggling and other transnational crimes in 
our hemisphere. In 2018 two Chinese nationals were convicted in U.S. 
Federal District Court of narcotics smuggling following a U.S. Coast 
Guard Cutter interdiction of their fishing vessel with 900 kilos of 
cocaine on the high seas in the Eastern Pacific.

      In 2023, the U.S. Navy seized over 2,000 AK-47 assault 
rifles from a Yemeni-crewed fishing vessel in the Gulf, demonstrating 
how traditional fishing craft are used to arm Iranian-funded proxies. 
These same types of fishing vessels are smuggling other illicit cargoes 
across Middle East waterways, serving to
destabilize the region.

      Drug cartels--including Mexico's Gulf Cartel, a 
designated foreign terrorist organization--use fishing vessels to 
conduct drug and migrant smuggling operations along our southern 
maritime border. They also harvest red snapper and other commercially 
valuable species from U.S. waters, violating American sovereignty, 
stealing our natural resources, and exporting them back to the U.S. 
market for millions of dollars in cartel revenue.

      In the Gulf of California, the Sinaloa Cartel and Cartel 
Jalisco Nueva Generacion (CJNG) have systematically taken over the 
fishing industry--from individual fishermen, to cooperatives, to 
processing plants, and to exporters. The entire seafood value chains in 
some Mexican coastal communities are now under criminal control.

      And finally, on the global level, nearly two-thirds of 
countries assessed have documented cases of forced labor, child labor, 
or other human rights violations in their seafood supply chains. The 
International Labour Organization conservatively estimates that more 
than 128,000 fishermen are trapped in conditions of forced labor 
worldwide, and the Pew Charitable Trust estimates that over 100,000 
fishermen die each year on the sea, and that is likely an 
underestimate.

    These examples highlight the types of public and semi-private 
networks we are allowing to profit when we fail to enforce 
traceability, transparency, and the rule of law across global seafood 
supply chains. It is through this lens that the strategic imperative 
for our maritime nation becomes crystal clear: how we, our allies, and 
partner nations meet the challenges posed by IUU Fishing contributes to 
countering PRC's increased geopolitical and economic influence through 
natural resource extraction.

III. Geopolitical Competition and the Seafood Battleground

    Building on this, the Committee should understand that IUU Fishing 
is not merely a conflict and crime problem--it is an instrument of 
geopolitical competition.
    The PRC has built vast distant-water fishing fleets that operate 
with state subsidies, with support vessels for refueling and at-sea 
processing, and with what can be described as deliberate strategic 
intent. These fleets operate in the waters of up to 93 countries. In 
some regions, as many as two-thirds of foreign fishing vessels operate 
with disregard for international and coastal state laws. Predatory 
practices such as AIS manipulation, shell company licensing, bribery, 
and transshipment at sea to launder illegal catch are widely documented 
across West Africa, South America, and the Western Pacific.
    This is not fishing. This is economic coercion. These fleets are 
the maritime equivalent of the debt-trap infrastructure investments we 
have rightly flagged as threats, one example being China's controlling 
interest in Sri Lanka's Hambantota port. These predatory practices are 
designed to secure strategic resource access, spread corruption, build 
dependencies, and extend influence over nations whose maritime 
economies are their primary national asset.
    The consequences are already playing out in regions of direct U.S. 
strategic
interest:

      In the Indo-Pacific, as noted above, Admiral Paparo, 
Commander of U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, has warned that competition 
over fisheries has the potential to be a real driver of conflict. 
Research has found that the presence of foreign fishing vessels 
contributed to 45 percent of fisheries-related conflict events in the 
Pacific Island region. Small island nations--precisely the nations that 
we desire influence with--are being outcompeted and destabilized.

      In the Arctic, as ice recedes, pollock stocks are 
shifting from American Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) waters to those of 
Russia and other nations. The Alaskan pollock fishery is worth nearly 
$2 billion annually and supports approximately 30,000 American jobs. 
Foreign vessels--primarily fishing for this stock--are already crowding 
the U.S.-Russian maritime border, and the PRC continues to explore the 
Arctic, declaring itself as a near-Arctic nation. Moreover, overhead 
surveillance and communications are at best difficult in the Arctic due 
to the physics of satellite orbits, so maritime presence and 
enforcement patrols are critical to preserve our sovereign interests. 
This need for persistent presence in the challenging Arctic operational 
environment is in part why the efforts of Congress to fund Polar 
Security Cutters (PSCs) and Arctic Security Cutters (ASCs) for the 
United States Coast Guard is so important to protecting U.S. interests 
in that region of increasing geostrategic importance.

      In South America, Argentina has militarily engaged 
Chinese fishing fleets after discovering hundreds of vessels fishing 
illegally in its waters. Chinese distant-water fishing fleets have 
lined the edges of exclusive economic zones around uniquely biodiverse 
ecosystems like the Galapagos Islands.

      Globally, fisheries-related conflict events have 
increased 20-fold since the 1970s. One in four militarized conflicts 
between democracies during the cold war were over access to fisheries 
resources.

    This is the strategic context in which IUU Fishing must be 
understood. As the United States has learned in the rare earth minerals 
context, it is not in America's interest to allow geostrategic 
competitors, like the PRC, to dominate access to critical natural 
resources. Seafood is no different.

IV. The Economic Stakes for America

    Let me also speak to the economic dimension, since both national 
security and commerce concerns vis-a-vis the PRC are in your purview as 
a Commission.
    The U.S. blue economy--encompassing fisheries, maritime trade, 
shipbuilding, coastal tourism, and marine technology--is a powerful 
engine of American prosperity. The U.S. seafood sector alone is worth 
over $320 billion and employs approximately 2.3 million Americans. The 
United States holds the second-largest marine territory in the world; 
however, 75 to 85 percent of seafood consumed in America is imported. 
That import dependence creates direct exposure to the very IUU Fishing-
tainted, criminally controlled, and geopolitically manipulated supply 
chains I have just described. The scale of potential economic loss is 
significant: global estimates suggest over $3 trillion in fisheries and 
aquaculture value is at risk over the next decade due to inadequate 
governance and overfishing.
    The return on investment for getting this right is extraordinary. 
Every dollar invested in sustainable ocean resource management yields 
five dollars in return--through food security, economic stability, 
reduced enforcement costs, and preserved marine assets. Conversely, 
failing to act risks ceding strategic resources to competitors, 
empowering criminal networks, and undermining American global maritime 
influence.

V. The Maritime Safety Enforcement Act and What More Is Needed

    I would like to personally thank Congress for your leadership on 
this issue. The Maritime Security and Fisheries Enforcement Act--
MSAFE--is a laudable initiative. It authorizes a whole-of-government 
approach for orchestrating and coordinating the efforts of 21 
departments and agencies to combat IUU Fishing, and it requires 
periodic progress update reports to Congress.
    But while it creates a framework for progress, candor requires that 
I also note for this Committee that the working group initiatives 
established under MSAFE have received little dedicated funding outside 
of internal agency reprogramming and modest budget increases, and their 
collective authority and expertise remain significantly underutilized. 
We all know that interagency coordination without the commensurate 
fiscal resourcing is not a strategy--it is principally an exercise in 
paperwork. Moreover, in my experience in government, if strategic joint 
and interagency initiatives in our government are not periodically 
reinvigorated by both Congress and the executive branch, they will 
naturally be relegated, or migrate, to bureaucratic channels at lower 
echelons of our government's departments and agencies.
    Regional Fisheries Management Organizations (RFMOs) have 
strengthened monitoring, control, and surveillance, expanded IUU 
Fishing vessel lists, and helped to improve transparency. However, 
their governing rules, forged around a model of consensus, often allow 
a single nation to block enforcement, including the authority to board, 
inspect, and sanction vessels; hence, they cannot obtain agreements on 
what could be the most effective treaty enforcement measures.
    The U.S. Coast Guard has entered into diplomatic maritime 
agreements that enable combined operations with partner nations to 
counter IUU fisheries, and the service routinely conducts patrols 
focused in part on countering IUU fisheries. Congress has authorized 
the largest, and very needed, acquisition effort in the history of the 
service, including the Fast Response Cutters (FRCs) and Offshore Patrol 
Cutters (OPCs) that are critical to operations that counter IUU 
Fishing. However, it is critical to note that the actions of the U.S. 
Coast Guard at sea alone are insufficient to stem the tide of IUU 
Fishing.
    To this end I recommend that your commission consider three 
strategic shifts:

1. Reinvigorate American Maritime Governance Leadership

    Maritime governance should be elevated in our Nation's core 
security directives--National Security Directives, congressional 
strategic mandates, and our National Maritime Strategies. Coupling the 
elevation in importance, adequate resourcing mechanisms must enable 
enhanced domestic maritime governance and position the United States as 
a global leader on this front. The National Security Council plays an 
important role to develop and coordinate our IUU Fishing strategic 
efforts to ensure they embody a whole-of-government approach, 
especially when they team with Congress and the Office of Management 
and Budget resourcing those efforts. Resources to implement this 
strategy will allow America to protect, manage, enforce, and deter 
threats to our national maritime resources and to our international 
seafood supply chains and by extension our national security.

2. Protect America's Maritime Interests Through Alliances and Trade

    In regions of strategic importance--the Indo-Pacific, Latin 
America, the Caribbean, and the Arctic--the United States must deepen 
collaboration with partners on maritime domain awareness, capacity-
building for fisheries enforcement, fisheries management, and coalition 
efforts to counter IUU Fishing. Critically, this does not require new 
funding lines or programs. Resources from the State Department's 
Narcotics and Law Enforcement (INL) program and the Defense Security 
Cooperation (DSC) Fund can be authorized for this purpose--because IUU 
Fishing is, at its core, both a national security imperative and a 
transnational organized crime criminal challenge.
    Experience in recent years shows that maritime presence, 
transparent documentation of violations, and coordinated diplomatic 
messaging can change IUU Fishing fleet behavior. More powerfully, when 
multiple nations act together--sharing evidence and issuing demarches--
states with IUU Fishing-linked fleets often adjust their actions. This 
approach has proven effective in West Africa, the Eastern Pacific, and 
the South China Sea.
    Regional Fisheries Management Organizations need to find a way to 
evolve or mature from diplomatic coordination bodies into more 
intentional actors supporting fisheries treaty enforcement and 
compliance coordination mechanisms, enabling the levying of 
consequences for violations of international fisheries agreements and 
non-adherence to accepted standards for rules-based order at sea. I 
recognize, given the diplomatic realities that they face, that this is 
easier said than done; however, in the face of shared national security 
concerns throughout history, the international community has agreed to 
powerful enforcement regimes--for piracy, the slave trade, and 
narcotics trafficking--a similar approach is needed to address IUU 
Fishing and the associated crimes.
    Finally, we must lead international coalitions to ensure global 
seafood traceability, transparency in foreign access and trade 
agreements, and import controls/market access requirements for catch 
information that can document legal origin. These tools exist and have 
been exercised at times. What is missing is the political emphasis to 
deploy them consistently. This hearing is an indication that this is 
about to change, and I commend you for it. Traceability is optimized 
when paired with data-driven fisheries management. The U.S. has the 
best-managed fisheries in the world.
    Our Regional Fisheries Management Councils balance the interests of 
fishermen, seafood markets, marine biologists, and politicians, 
creating a regulatory framework that levels the playing field for all. 
Sharing our technical expertise, governance process, and enforcement 
regime with partner nations to improve fisheries data collection and 
management would help to address the root causes of IUU Fishing: 
ungoverned fishing of too few fish in the ocean in an unsustainable 
manner.
3. Strengthen Public-Private Partnerships in a Whole-of-Society Effort

    Even with all the international efforts I have enumerated, IUU 
Fishing persists at scale. We cannot only interdict or regulate our way 
out of this challenge, and the solutions lie beyond the actions of any 
single government or entity. The reality is that a whole-of-society 
response with broad partnership is needed to address IUU Fishing that 
aligns market forces, industry, technology, diplomacy, maritime 
enforcement, regulation, and civil society.
    If major importers of seafood--including the United States, Japan, 
Australia, and the European Union--collectively sanctioned companies 
engaged in IUU Fishing activity, the financial incentive for IUU 
Fishing would be dramatically reduced.
    U.S. departments and agencies are collectively increasing efforts 
to improve seafood traceability to prevent importation. There have been 
episodic successes through innovative interagency law enforcement and 
customs investigations. As an example, Operation JADE SPEAR, a U.S. 
interagency effort, demonstrated the power of combining law enforcement 
investigation, customs enforcement, and coordinated financial actions 
that resulted in the delisting of IUU Fishing-linked companies from the 
NASDAQ Stock Exchange. Interpol has also established a program to 
coordinate international investigations into IUU Fishing criminal 
networks and activity. These enforcement efforts need to be replicated 
and conducted at a much larger scale.
    Industry also has a critical role to play in eliminating IUU 
Fishing from their supply chains. A unified and impactful commitment to 
traceability is needed to transform global seafood supply chains. A 
good example is the ``dolphin safe tuna'' movement in the 1990s, which 
increased the awareness of industry, government, and the public about 
the deaths of dolphins that occurred during tuna fishing and developed 
fishing practices to prevent that from happening. Companies are 
exploring how a similar industry-wide effort could be used to 
illuminate and prevent IUU Fishing from unwittingly existing in their 
supply chain.
    Non-Governmental Organizations (NGOs) serve as underutilized force 
multipliers in this mission set that could be better leveraged by 
government and international organizations through increased 
communication and engagement with the NGO community. Often NGOs do not 
require U.S. Government funding or support because they operate on 
philanthropic donations. They desire better partnership with U.S. 
departments and agencies to ensure that their efforts are complementary 
and not redundant to U.S. efforts to counter IUU Fishing activity.
    The MSAFE Act has helped to better coordinate the IUU Fishing 
capacity-building efforts of U.S. departments and agencies; however, 
U.S. capacity-building efforts should now be better synchronized across 
agencies, allies, NGOs, and international organizations who are 
involved in similar capacity-building efforts. To build the requisite 
capacity to counter IUU Fishing activity, partner nations need 
coordinated support in law and policy frameworks, maritime domain 
awareness, intelligence sharing, enforcement, customs, and 
traceability.
    Emerging technologies in industry are critical as well--including 
low-cost uncrewed aerial systems (UAS), lower cost patrol vessels, 
commercial satellite data, and AI analytics--which have served to 
dramatically reduce the cost of monitoring EEZs for developing nations. 
Creating sustained offshore presence and awareness in a nation's 
territorial seas, whether through patrols, shiprider agreements, UAS 
surveillance or multinational operations, remains the essential 
objective.
    Emerging UAS capability technologies provide the ability for 
developing nations to overcome the financial barrier-to-entry for 
effective maritime security by replacing very costly traditional manned 
maritime patrol aircraft programs with much lower cost and lower risk 
UAS systems. These systems can now remain airborne for over a day and 
cover a nation's territorial seas and EEZ and provide the ability to 
share ubiquitous surveillance data enhanced by AI capabilities to 
operators and analysts ashore to document IUU Fishing incursions and 
activities in and around their waters. Moreover, industry now also 
offers mission enablers such as Starlink with lower cost communication 
and good bandwidth, which enables most nations to afford access to IUU 
Fishing monitoring information and intelligence at sea.
    It is important to note that nations do not always need to board 
IUU Fishing vessels to be effective. UAS or boat crew photos and 
documentation that enable detailed diplomatic demarches to be sent to 
the offending flag state of the IUU Fishing fleets can be just as 
compelling as a seizure at sea with the same desired effect--compelling 
a modification of behavior and conformance to accepted maritime rules-
based order.
    Similarly, least developed countries often do not have sufficient 
maritime law enforcement vessels to operate hundreds of miles offshore 
for lengthy periods of time. Recent innovative and lower cost 
approaches to at-sea maritime law enforce-
ment that have been used by NGOs in Central America can be adopted for 
use in
Oceania, Africa, and South America as well. Traditional navy and coast 
guard ships and patrol boats are very expensive to acquire and operate, 
but unlike complicated and risky high-speed interdictions of go-fast 
drug trafficking vessels, often at night, least developed countries do 
not need fast interdiction platforms to counter IUU Fishing vessels and 
activity in and around their waters. Instead, effective enforcement 
operations can be accomplished with used offshore supply vessels, which 
can be repurposed to serve as a mother ship or a floating station--with 
plenty of fuel, endurance over 30 days, berthing for multiple boarding 
teams, and 2-4 interceptor boats and crews. This ``wolf pack'' 
operational approach can be operated at a fraction of the cost of 
operating typical offshore navy or patrol vessels.
    Combating IUU Fishing will require these types of innovative 
approaches and a departure from our traditional U.S. regional 
engagement business models to maintain affordable at-sea persistent 
presence to catch IUU Fishing violators in the act.
    The private sector--including NGOs and industry partners--can serve 
as critical force multipliers for U.S. Government capacity-building 
efforts. Expanded collab-
oration and explicit authorization for these partnerships would yield 
significant
returns.

VI. Closing

    Members of the Commission: Our ocean fisheries resources have 
historically been treated as a conservation issue, separate from 
geopolitics and national security. That approach has not been 
effective. The threats I have described today--from IUU Fishing tied to 
cartels and arms smuggling, to state-subsidized distant-water fleets 
advancing China's influence in our own hemisphere--are not future 
threat or national security risks. They are present and growing.
    The health and sustainability of our ocean resources, our Nation's 
enforcement of the laws that govern it, our efforts to partner with 
allies on maritime governance, and our efforts to build the capacity of 
nations to combat IUU Fishing in and around their waters are 
inseparable from American maritime strength. The opportunity before 
this Congress is to reframe ocean governance as the strategic 
imperative it is--and to fund, staff, and direct the agencies toward 
whole-of-society partnerships that can meet this challenge.
    I am grateful for the Commission's time and attention to this 
matter, and I look forward to your questions.
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               Prepared Statement of Hon. Dean A. Pinkert

              Using U.S. Trade Law To Combat Forced Labor
                    in the Chinese Seafood Industry

    Thank you for the opportunity to testify before this distinguished 
Commission on one of the most urgent tasks in U.S. trade enforcement--
enhancing efforts to address systematic use of forced labor in China's 
seafood industry. My name is Dean Pinkert. I'm a former commissioner of 
the U.S. International Trade Commission, serving as a commissioner from 
2007 to 2017, and as Vice-Chairman of that body from 2014 to 2016. I am 
currently Special Advisor to Corporate Accountability Lab (CAL), a 
human rights nonprofit organization in Chicago. CAL is active in 
petitioning U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) for forced labor 
import bans under Section 307 of the Tariff Act of 1930. In addition, 
CAL participates in the Tariff Act Advocates Group, the Coalition 
Against Forced Labor in Trade, and the Illegal, Unreported, and 
Unregulated (IUU) Fishing & Labor Rights Coalition, and co-chairs the 
Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act (UFLPA) Implementation Working 
Group.
    China is the world's largest seafood producer and exporter, 
supplying a substantial share of the fish and shellfish reaching 
American consumers. There is a documented state practice of using 
Uyghur and other minority-group workers, under coercive conditions, in 
Chinese seafood production. Goods produced under these conditions enter 
U.S. commerce at a price advantage underwritten by human suffering.
    Congress has assembled a flexible toolkit of legislation that can 
be used to address this problem--including Section 307, the UFLPA, 
Section 1595a civil penalties, and Section 301 of the Trade Act of 
1974. The issue is not an absence of statutory authority; it is the 
failure to use these tools at scale, in combination, and with the 
creativity the circumstances demand.
        strengthening traceability and transshipment enforcement
                    under section 307 and the uflpa
    Section 307 prohibits the importation of goods produced in whole or 
in part by forced labor, and the UFLPA creates a rebuttable presumption 
that any goods mined, produced, or manufactured in the Xinjiang Uyghur 
Autonomous Region--or by entities on the UFLPA Entity List--are made 
with forced labor and are therefore inadmissible. These are powerful 
tools. But their effectiveness depends on the U.S. Government's ability 
to trace goods from point of harvest through processing to the port of 
entry; the Forced Labor Enforcement Task Force's (FLETF's) ability to 
maintain a timely cadence of placing companies on the Entity List; and 
the willingness of CBP to move under Section 307 directly when the 
UFLPA itself does not satisfy enforcement objectives.
    Chinese seafood supply chains are deliberately opaque. Fish caught 
in distant waters can be transshipped through intermediary ports, 
relabeled, commingled with locally sourced product, and re-exported to 
the United States. This can render conventional documentation-based 
compliance less than fully effective. CBP should therefore require 
positive traceability documentation--vessel-level catch certificates, 
processing facility records, and chain-of-custody attestations--for 
high-risk seafood species and sourcing regions. Importers who cannot 
provide this documentation should not be permitted U.S. customs entry 
of their merchandise.
    An existing Federal program provides infrastructure for the 
traceability regime that the forced labor problem in this sector 
demands. The Seafood Import Monitoring Program (SIMP), administered by 
NOAA under 50 C.F.R. Part 300, Subpart Q, already requires collection 
and/or reporting of vessel-level harvest data, species identification, 
and chain-of-custody records for 13 high-risk species. CBP should treat 
SIMP documentation as a necessary--though not always sufficient--
predicate for admissibility, and NOAA should expand SIMP's species 
coverage to close the gaps that bad actors currently exploit by routing 
tainted product through non-
covered species and supply chains.\1\ SIMP can also be improved by 
including additional data elements to address labor abuse risks, 
requiring pre-entry notification of SIMP data, enhancing data 
verification and enforcement activity, and formalizing interagency 
coordination and data sharing.
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    \1\ A recently published meta-analysis shows that seafood 
mislabeling is rampant in the U.S. market, with species substitution 
being the predominant issue, https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/
article/pii/S0956713524008272.
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    Congress should examine any reluctance on the part of CBP to use 
Section 307 to issue sector-wide Withhold Release Orders covering 
Chinese seafood processed in facilities that have received state-
transferred labor, without requiring individualized proof of coercion 
at each facility. The need for this is highlighted by the fact that CBP 
appears to regard a Withhold Release Order as a necessary predicate for 
imposing civil penalties on U.S. imports of these products.
                    expanding the uflpa entity list
    The UFLPA Entity List should be expanded, and the FLETF should 
devote particular attention in this regard to Chinese seafood 
processors, cold-chain logistics firms, and fishing fleet operators.
    Listing has asymmetric value, meaning its value greatly exceeds its 
cost, by shifting the burden of proof to importers, creating immediate 
commercial pressure on listed entities, and signaling to the broader 
industry that participation in supply chains tainted by Chinese 
government-mandated forced labor carries legal and reputational 
consequence. The FLETF should set an explicit timetable for seafood-
sector designations and report to Congress on the evidentiary gaps, if 
any, that they believe have delayed action.
                civil penalties under 19 u.s.c.  1595a
    Section 1595a authorizes civil penalties for importations made 
contrary to law.\2\ Forced labor importations in violation of Section 
307 fit precisely into this authorization. Yet penalties are rarely 
imposed in the forced labor context, and their deterrent potential has 
largely gone unrealized.
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    \2\ 19 U.S.C. 1595a(c).
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    A robust Section 1595a enforcement program would provide two 
benefits that detentions alone cannot. First, penalties impose a 
financial cost on importers who have not self-policed their supply 
chains and thereby create a direct economic incentive for upstream due 
diligence. Second, penalty proceedings can generate evidence--through 
CBP's demand for importer documentation and the importer's response--
revealing supply chain structures otherwise hidden from regulators.
    The ultimate efficacy of such a program will depend in large part 
on how well it is understood by the relevant actors. CBP should 
therefore publicize its enforcement actions and, if possible, provide 
industry and civil society with a penalty matrix that helps them to 
help the government in its efforts to combat forced labor.
          using section 301 to target supply chain bifurcation
    Perhaps the most sophisticated challenge in this space is the 
practice of supply chain bifurcation: companies maintaining nominally 
compliant product lines for export to the United States while 
continuing to use state-imposed forced labor in lines destined for 
other markets or sold domestically. Compliance, in other words, is 
purely performative, staged only for CBP's benefit.
    Section 301 authorizes the U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) to 
investigate and respond to foreign acts, policies, or practices that 
are unreasonable or discriminatory and burden or restrict U.S. 
commerce. A foreign government policy that induces companies to 
simulate compliance while preserving state-imposed forced labor in non-
U.S.-destined production is exactly the kind of state-implicated 
anticompetitive practice that Section 301 was designed to address; it 
enables the use of forced labor to achieve economies of scale that work 
to the disadvantage of U.S. producers. USTR must not turn a blind eye 
to the geographic sorting of tainted from untainted shipments.
    The U.S. Government's goal should be that companies disengage 
entirely from state-imposed forced labor rather than allowing it to 
tilt the commercial playing field against U.S. companies.
                               conclusion
    We have the legal tools to address forced labor in seafood supply 
chains, including where, as in China, it is an instrument of state 
policy. The myriad laws in this space are mutually reinforcing; when 
deployed with strategic coordination and resolve, they can impose 
meaningful costs on companies that seek to benefit from this egregious 
human rights violation.
    Congress should (1) urge the Administration both to mandate that 
seafood traceability documentation be provided to CBP and to enhance 
SIMP to address forced labor risk in the seafood sector, (2) work with 
the FLETF to accelerate UFLPA Entity List designations in the sector, 
(3) provide oversight to press CBP in the direction of an active and 
effective Section 1595a civil penalty program, and (4) explore with the 
USTR the possibility of a Section 301 investigation into supply chain 
bifurcation. Each of these steps is plainly within existing legal 
authority.
    I look forward to the Commission's questions.
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                Prepared Statement of Hon. Dan Sullivan

    We are here today to examine illegal, unreported, and unregulated 
fishing by the People's Republic of China. What we're dealing with is a 
state-backed system--run by the Chinese Communist Party--that combines 
illegal fishing, market manipulation, and forced labor, all in one 
supply chain. And it's happening at scale.
    This system has real consequences for American workers, for law-
abiding producers, and for the integrity of the global seafood market. 
The PRC has built the world's largest distant-water fishing fleet. 
These vessels do not simply compete. They overwhelm. They cheat. They 
show up in other countries' waters. They push into exclusive economic 
zones. They ignore quotas. They transship and relabel the catch to hide 
its origin.
    That is not fair competition. It is a strategy of economic coercion 
that has direct consequences here at home.
    Alaska is a seafood superpower. We produce over 60 percent of the 
wild-caught seafood in the United States. In Alaska, we have some of 
the best-managed fisheries in the world. Our fishermen follow the law. 
They respect quotas. They manage sustainably. They preserve these 
resources for future generations.
    Alaska fishermen should not be forced to compete against fleets 
that disregard those rules, that benefit from state subsidies, and 
flood global markets with cheap products tied to illegal practices. 
That is not fair competition.
    And it gets worse. There is credible evidence that parts of the PRC 
seafood supply chain involve forced labor, including Uyghur labor and 
North Korean labor in seafood processing. North Koreans and Indonesians 
and others are also being used on Chinese fishing boats in conditions 
that resemble slave labor.
    So when we talk about illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, 
we are not just talking about resource theft. We are talking about a 
system in which illegal fishing, hidden sourcing, labor exploitation, 
and market distortion are all connected. That should concern all of us.
    Then add Russia to this mix. Russian seafood can be processed in 
China, relabeled, and then pushed back into global markets. This 
undermines sanctions and further distorts prices. It should not be 
possible, but it is happening right now, as we speak. This is a serious 
problem, and it deserves serious attention.
    I weighed in extensively with the Trump administration to 
communicate how much Alaska needs the comprehensive ban on Russian 
seafood imports to the United States to continue. I was happy to see 
the Trump administration renew that ban just a few weeks ago to help 
maintain and strengthen Federal measures that ensure fair trade and 
protect Alaska's fishermen and coastal communities.
    Congress has also begun to respond. The Senate unanimously passed 
my Fighting Foreign Illegal Seafood Harvests (FISH) Act in April. This 
is an effort I worked on for years with my friend Senator Whitehouse, 
who will join us later in the hearing. The bill recognizes that IUU 
fishing is not simply an environmental issue. It is also an economic 
issue, a labor issue, and a national security issue. It will strengthen 
enforcement, improve coordination, and ensure that the United States 
treats these activities with the seriousness they require.
    Congress also passed, and the President signed into law, a 
provision I included in the NDAA last year barring the Pentagon from 
selling or procuring Chinese seafood imports in commissaries or serving 
them in military dining facilities. Our servicemen and women should be 
eating freedom fish from the United States, not communist fish 
harvested using slave labor.
    I have also been a leading advocate for elevating the role of 
seafood within the U.S. Department of Agriculture. We've made 
meaningful progress already. In the FY2026 appropriations, Congress 
provided funding for a Seafood Liaison at USDA. Today, USDA announced 
the creation of a new USDA Office of Seafood. This office is a key 
component for integrating seafood into USDA programs, under the 
direction of the Seafood Liaison, to coordinate seafood policies and 
programs to provide support for our seafood industry, like U.S. farmers 
have. But we need to do more.
    If illegal seafood can still be caught in one place, processed in 
another, relabeled, and sold into the United States, then we still have 
significant gaps to close. If Withhold Release Orders from Customs are 
not being enforced robustly, if traceability remains incomplete, and if 
import controls are still too easy to circumvent, then bad actors will 
continue to exploit those weaknesses.
    That is why this hearing matters. We need to understand where our 
enforcement tools are working, where they are falling short, and what 
more should be done. I'm particularly interested in hearing our experts 
testify on the utility of tools like the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention 
Act. Senator Merkley and I have introduced the follow-on to that bill, 
UGASA (the Uyghur Genocide Accountability and Sanctions Act) that 
reinforces some of these provisions. As it moves through the process, 
maybe there is more we can do with it. We're open to suggestions.
    At the same time, this is not a challenge the United States faces 
alone. Countries around the world are dealing with the same tactics, 
the same coercive pressure, and the same difficulty in enforcing rules 
against distant-water fleets that operate at scale and in the shadows, 
so we need to work with partners to improve enforcement capacity and 
increase the cost of this behavior.
    Though China's IUU fishing is a global and complex problem, at the 
end of the day, the principle here is simple: If you are engaged in 
illegal fishing, if you are exploiting workers, if you are hiding 
both--then you should not have access to the American market. Period. 
That's the standard.
    This hearing is an opportunity to expose the Chinese IUU fishing 
system. It is an opportunity to identify where our policies need to be 
stronger and make clear that the United States intends to defend lawful 
producers, uphold human rights, and enforce the rules.
    I want to thank our witnesses for helping bring transparency to 
what is designed to stay hidden. I look forward to their testimony.

                 Prepared Statement of Hon. Chris Smith

    I want to recognize my Co-chair, Senator Sullivan, for his 
leadership on this issue and his long record of fighting to protect the 
American seafood industry and American fishermen. His FISH Act just 
passed in the Senate and I will be working with my House colleagues to 
get it passed in the House. His amendment in last year's NDAA 
prohibiting Pentagon commissaries from serving Chinese seafood to our 
men and women in uniform was also a giant step forward. This is exactly 
the kind of serious leadership required to address the challenge of 
Chinese IUU fishing.
    From the earliest days of seafaring, the oceans have been governed 
not only by currents and commerce, but by rules--rules that distinguish 
lawful navigation from piracy, fair trade from exploitation, and order 
from lawlessness.
    Today we are confronted with a disturbing modern version of that 
lawlessness: a system of dark fleets, opaque supply chains, illegal 
fishing, and coerced labor that threatens not only American workers but 
also human rights, the rule of law, and our national security.
    Credible reporting and investigative findings have exposed deeply 
troubling practices within China's distant-water fishing fleet and 
seafood processing industry. These include widespread illegal, 
unreported, and unregulated fishing--known as IUU fishing--as well as 
serious human rights abuses, including forced labor.
    As our Commission heard in 2023 during the hearing I chaired titled 
``From Bait to Plate: How Forced Labor in China Taints America's 
Seafood Supply Chain,'' a significant portion of China's distant-water 
fleet has been linked to labor exploitation, illegal incursions into 
the sovereign waters of other nations, and exploitation of workers.
    The abuse does not end at sea. On land, there are grave concerns 
about the use of forced labor--including Uyghur and North Korean 
labor--in seafood processing facilities tied to global supply chains. 
Products processed under these conditions can make their way into 
international markets, including the United States, raising urgent 
legal, moral, and national security concerns.
    We are joined again today by Mr. Ian Urbina, founder of The Outlaw 
Ocean Project, whose reporting has helped expose these abuses to the 
world. His work, and the work of others, has made one thing 
unmistakably clear: This is not a series of isolated incidents. It is a 
pattern. And it demands a response equal to its scale and seriousness.
    Ian's testimony at our 2023 hearing told of North Korean laborers 
in Chinese seafood processing facilities whose products entered the 
U.S. market.
    We have also recently learned that North Koreans are also being 
employed on Chinese flagged tuna longliners, with evidence of forced 
labor that included debt bondage, physical and verbal abuse, and 
excessive overtime. That is not just labor abuse. It is a sanctions 
evasion issue, a human rights issue, and a national security issue.
    With Senator Merkley and Senator Sullivan, I have called on the 
Departments of State and Homeland Security to coordinate and act 
swiftly to address forced labor in China's seafood industry. We raised 
a particularly alarming possibility: that seafood consumed in the 
United States could be indirectly funding North Korea's nuclear and 
ballistic missile programs.
    Our message was simple. The United States must not allow its 
consumers, its taxpayers, or its government procurement systems to 
become unwitting participants in forced labor or sanctions evasion. 
That means stronger enforcement to stop tainted seafood at the border, 
and it means ensuring that no Federal procurement system--including 
military bases, school meal programs, or other government facilities--
relies on products linked to forced labor.
    Because let's be clear: China's illegal fishing practices and the 
use of forced labor in its seafood supply chain are not merely 
unethical--they are in clear violation of U.S. law, including the 
Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act (which I led with Senators Rubio and 
Merkley and Representative McGovern) and the Countering America's 
Adversaries Through Sanctions Act.
    We know the administration has said that addressing IUU fishing is 
a priority. We know Customs and Border Protection has issued Withhold 
Release Orders on Chinese vessels and barred products from at least one 
Chinese seafood processor.
    We know CBP has the authority to act. What we need to know now is 
whether that authority is being used with the urgency and rigor this 
crisis demands.
    After our 2023 hearing, Chinese seafood was added to CBP's priority 
enforcement list. Companies and retailers took notice--Lotte stores in 
South Korea and McDonald's promised to stop importing Chinese seafood.
    We hope today's hearing produces that same kind of impact--but more 
important--we hope it leads to sustained action.
    This hearing is about protecting American jobs and protecting 
national security as well. China's distant-water fishing fleet does not 
operate in a vacuum. These vessels often advance the Chinese Communist 
Party's objectives: asserting maritime claims, projecting presence in 
disputed waters, distorting markets, and exploiting vulnerable workers 
in service of larger geopolitical ambitions.
    So this is about more than seafood. It is about whether the United 
States will tolerate a system that rewards coercion, harms American 
fishermen, weakens sanctions enforcement, creates food insecurity in 
Africa, and erodes the integrity of global commerce.
    That is why we are here today, and that is why this hearing 
matters.

                       Submissions for the Record

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          Questions for Admiral Clendenin from Chair Sullivan

    Question. What specific resources do you believe are needed to make 
the U.S. Coast Guard more effective in meeting Illegal, Unreported, and 
Unregulated (IUU) fishing interdiction goals?
    Answer. The views expressed in this response are my own and do not 
represent the official position of the U.S. Government or the U.S. 
Coast Guard.
    Over the past 4 years, Congress has provided the Coast Guard with 
additional resources dedicated to counter-IUU fishing. These funds have 
been applied toward additional positions and the establishment of an 
IUU Center of Excellence in Hawaii. My understanding is that these 
investments have significantly strengthened the Service's ability to 
combat IUU fishing. As Congress revisits the IUU challenge with renewed 
interest and focus--and given that these resources were allocated 
several years ago--this is an appropriate time for the Coast Guard to 
reassess its level of both capabilities and capacity employed in this 
mission area, and more specifically to report whether the resources 
provided in 2020 remain adequate today for a mission that has, and 
continues to, expand in both geographic scope and strategic importance.
    As noted in my testimony, persistent at-sea presence remains the 
single most important factor in the Coast Guard's ability to counter 
IUU fishing, and therefore the Offshore Patrol Cutter (OPC) acquisition 
program is essential. In addition to providing the global reach and 
capacity required to respond to IUU incursions, to support partner 
nations, and to increase persistent presence on the high seas, OPCs are 
urgently needed to replace the aging Medium Endurance Cutter fleet, 
which is operating decades beyond its intended service life. These 
legacy cutters face increasing maintenance challenges resulting in 
reduced operational availability (days on patrol at sea), limiting the 
Service's ability to sustain patrols in contested or remote regions. 
The OPCs will be the backbone of the Coast Guard's at-sea capacity and 
will be the workhorses supporting the Service's efforts to stem IUU 
fishing.
    As IUU fishing activity expands into the Arctic and higher 
latitudes, the Arctic Security Cutter (ASC), currently under 
construction, will provide indispensable capability and capacity. 
Conventional non-icebreaking-capable cutters cannot safely operate in 
or near ice, and communications and overhead imagery are more 
challenging in the Arctic due to satellite-orbit geometry. The planned 
fleet of 11 Arctic Security Cutters will provide the persistent 
presence required to deter and respond to incursions into U.S. northern 
waters. Until the ASC fleet is fully operational, the interim high-
latitude capabilities provided by USCGC STORIS, which was placed into 
service in August 2025, will remain critical.
    The modularization program currently being prototyped on STORIS--
and directed by the Executive Order on Restoring America's Maritime 
Dominance--is particularly important for the IUU mission, especially in 
the Arctic. Modern containerized modularity enables rapid augmentation 
of capabilities such as additional berthing, enhanced communications, 
expanded intelligence capabilities, and embarked scientific modules.
    Both the ASC and Polar Security Cutter (PSC) classes will be 
designed to embark these modular capabilities, allowing each patrol to 
be tailored to mission requirements.
    Last, Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) capabilities will be essential 
to the IUU mission in a variety of ways. UAS will soon be embarked on 
most Coast Guard cutters, providing organic surveillance capability 
that will greatly enhance maritime domain awareness for the IUU 
mission. In addition, UAS aerial patrols for counter-IUU fisheries 
missions in the Arctic limit risk to manned aircraft and their embarked 
crews given the harsh operational conditions found in the northern 
latitudes. Continued support for the Coast Guard's UAS program will be 
essential and may present an area that would benefit from increased 
resourcing.
    Thank you for your leadership on this critically important IUU 
fishing mission, which is vital to U.S. national security, regional 
stability, and global food security.

    Question. Are there other Coast Guard-related priorities that can 
help on the IUU fishing front?
    Answer. The views expressed in this response are my own and do not 
represent the official position of the U.S. Government or the U.S. 
Coast Guard.
    In 2020, the 26th Commandant, Admiral Schultz, in the Service's IUU 
Fishing Strategic Outlook, identified combating IUU fishing as the top 
operational concern for the majority of America's maritime partner-
nation Coast Guards and Navies. Schultz noted, ``The Coast Guard's IUU 
Fishing Strategic Outlook outlines the Service's efforts to combat the 
scourge of IUU fishing over the next decade. We are committed to 
working with our allies and like-minded partners to strengthen the 
international fisheries enforcement regime and counter this pervasive 
threat. As a recognized world leader in maritime safety, security and 
environmental stewardship, the Coast Guard has a responsibility to help 
build a coalition of partners willing to identify and address IUU 
fishing bad actors and model responsible global maritime behavior.'' 
Since publishing this Strategic Outlook, co-chairing the MSAFE IUU 
Committee, and expanding the Service's global engagement, the Coast 
Guard has become an international leader in counter-IUU maritime 
governance and operations. However, as noted in my testimony, the Coast 
Guard cannot address this challenge alone. A whole-of-society approach 
that integrates the work of Federal departments and agencies, industry, 
nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), and civil society is required.
    To support this, IUU fishing should be elevated within national 
security priorities to a level comparable to narcotics trafficking and 
piracy. The MSAFE interagency effort should receive increased 
visibility, provide regular updates to Congress and the executive 
branch, and have its efforts incorporated into periodic, focused 
National Security Council-level discussions.
    The Coast Guard, along with other departments and agencies, 
conducts extensive international capacity-building related to counter-
IUU fishing, including law-
enforcement instruction, fisheries education, legal and policy 
development, and broader capacity-building initiatives. A persistent 
challenge is ensuring that these efforts are coordinated not only 
across U.S. agencies, but also with foreign partners and 
nongovernmental organizations, to ensure they are additive and 
complementary rather than redundant. Additionally, these activities 
must be more closely aligned with operational objectives and measurable 
outcomes. Departments and agencies often report activities rather than 
results and impact, frequently providing only anecdotal examples. A 
system of macrolevel indicators--developed jointly with intelligence 
and NGO communities--would allow the United States to assess whether 
global IUU fishing trends are improving.
    Improved intelligence collaboration is also essential. The U.S. 
Government shares information and intelligence with partners and NGOs 
through collaborative IT platforms and through Information Fusion 
Centers to improve awareness of vessels engaged in IUU fishing 
activities. While this effort is important, these mechanisms often 
remain cumbersome due to information-sharing policy constraints that 
prevent broader collaboration. Analytic products from NGOs--such as 
Global Fishing Watch--can exceed both the quality and timeliness of 
information available from the U.S. Government. The advantage of the 
IUU fishing mission is that classified information is not essential to 
produce quality targeting data. Crowd-sourced efforts to enrich 
unclassified, commercially available overhead data--enhanced with 
artificial intelligence--can provide timely information on IUU fishing 
fleets and fully inform priority patrol areas globally. Greater 
collaboration in unclassified, publicly releasable platforms would 
allow U.S. agencies, foreign partners, and NGOs to fully collaborate 
using the same data, enabling timely shared tactical information 
without releasability barriers. This would significantly enhance 
operational awareness for all partner nation patrols.
    Coast Guard efforts must also be integrated into broader joint and 
interagency initiatives outside the Service's traditional mission 
areas. While the Coast Guard provides the persistent presence, boarding 
capability, and intelligence support needed to challenge IUU fishing at 
sea, it does not have the lead role in traceability, import 
inspections, or supply chain enforcement. The Coast Guard supports 
these efforts through intelligence and the Coast Guard Investigative 
Service, but as noted in my testimony, effective international 
traceability and inspection regimes--implemented in close partnership 
with industry--are essential. Reducing the market for IUU-tainted 
seafood imports would diminish the economic incentives that drive IUU 
fishing globally. Without this effort, it will be difficult to counter 
global IUU fishing effectively through at-sea enforcement alone.
    The Coast Guard's efforts need to be fully integrated into a 
broader unified, coordinated, whole-of-society approach--bringing 
together joint and interagency resources, foreign partners, NGOs, and 
civil society. This approach would significantly strengthen national 
efforts to counter IUU fishing. This synergy can be achieved through 
regular, structured engagement of the MSAFE Committee and its working 
groups by congressional and executive branch leadership, including 
periodic discussion and progress monitoring at the National Security 
Council level.
    Thank you for your leadership in addressing the IUU fishing 
challenge, which is vital to U.S. national security, regional 
stability, and global food security.
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
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                          Witness Biographies

    Ian Urbina, Director and Founder, The Outlaw Ocean Project

    Ian Urbina is the founder and director of The Outlaw Ocean Project, 
a Washington, DC-based nonprofit journalism organization that 
investigates human rights, environmental, and labor abuses across the 
world's oceans. Before launching the project, he spent nearly 17 years 
as a staff reporter for the New York Times. His work has earned 
numerous honors, including a Pulitzer Prize, two George Polk Awards, 
and an Emmy.

    Rear Admiral Scott W. Clendenin, USCG (Ret.), Owner, Dog Zebra
Solutions LLC

    Rear Admiral Scott Clendenin served 33 years on active duty in the 
U.S. Coast Guard and retired as Assistant Commandant for Response 
Policy, where he oversaw operational policy across seven mission areas. 
He spent 14 years at sea on six Coast Guard cutters, commanded four of 
them, and led international multi-mission patrols involving narcotics 
interdiction, fisheries enforcement, mass-migration response, search 
and rescue, and disaster response. Ashore, he held senior intelligence 
and policy roles supporting national operations and interagency 
efforts. He is a 1990 graduate of the U.S. Coast Guard Academy.

    Hon. Dean A. Pinkert, Special Advisor, Corporate Accountability Lab

    The Honorable Dean A. Pinkert is an international trade and human 
rights consultant who serves as special advisor to Corporate 
Accountability Lab. He spent 10 years as a commissioner at the U.S. 
International Trade Commission, including 2 years as Vice Chairman. He 
has testified before Congress and has written and spoken widely on 
trade policy, including U.S. efforts to prevent the importation of 
goods produced with forced labor.
              

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