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                  KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES: LOWERING COSTS
                    FOR VETERAN FAMILIES THROUGH THE
                         VA HOME LOAN PROGRAM

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                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2026

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                     COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

                     MIKE BOST, Illinois, Chairman

AUMUA AMATA COLEMAN RADEWAGEN,       MARK TAKANO, California, Ranking 
    American Samoa, Vice-Chairwoman      Member
JACK BERGMAN, Michigan               JULIA BROWNLEY, California
NANCY MACE, South Carolina           CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire
MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa       SHEILA CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK, 
GREGORY F. MURPHY, North Carolina        Florida
DERRICK VAN ORDEN, Wisconsin         MORGAN MCGARVEY, Kentucky
MORGAN LUTTRELL, Texas               DELIA RAMIREZ, Illinois
JUAN CISCOMANI, Arizona              NIKKI BUDZINSKI, Illinois
KEITH SELF, Texas                    TIMOTHY M. KENNEDY, New York
JEN KIGGANS, Virginia                MAXINE DEXTER, Oregon
ABE HAMADEH, Arizona                 HERB CONAWAY, New Jersey
KIMBERLYN KING-HINDS, Northern       KELLY MORRISON, Minnesota
    Mariana Islands
TOM BARRETT, Michigan

                       Jon Clark, Staff Director
                  Matt Reel, Democratic Staff Director

                  SUBCOMMITTEE ON ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY

                 DERRICK VAN ORDEN, Wisconsin, Chairman

JUAN CISCOMANI, Arizona              CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire, 
ABE HAMADEH, Arizona                     Ranking Member
KIMBERLYN KING-HINDS, Northern       MORGAN MCGARVEY, Kentucky
    Mariana Islands                  DELIA RAMIREZ, Illinois
TOM BARRETT, Michigan                TIMOTHY M. KENNEDY, New York

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                           OPENING STATEMENTS

The Honorable Derrick Van Orden, Chairman........................     1
The Honorable Chris Pappas, Ranking Member.......................     2

                               WITNESSES
                               
                                Panel I

Mr. Patrick Zondervan, Executive Director, Loan Guaranty Service, 
  Veterans Benefits Administration, U.S. Department of Veterans 
  Affairs........................................................     4

        Accompanied by:

    Mr. Terry Rouch, Assistant Director for Loan Policy and 
        Valuation, Loan Guaranty Service, Veterans Benefits 
        Administration, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs

                                Panel II

Mr. Owen Lee, Co-Owner & Chief Executive Officer, Success 
  Mortgage Partners, 2026 MBA Chair Elect, Mortgage Bankers 
  Association....................................................    12

Mr. Kurt Thompson, Owner & Broker, RE/MAX, Executive Committee 
  Member, National Association of Realtors.......................    13

Ms. Alys Cohen, Director of Federal Housing Advocacy, National 
  Consumer Law Center............................................    15

                                APPENDIX
                                
                    Prepared Statements Of Witnesses

Mr. Patrick Zondervan Prepared Statement.........................    25
Mr. Owen Lee Prepared Statement..................................    27
Mr. Kurt Thompson Prepared Statement.............................    31
Ms. Alys Cohen Prepared Statement................................    34

                       Statements For The Record

Auction.com Prepared Statement...................................    39
National Association of Mortgage Brokers Prepared Statement......    43








 
                  KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES: LOWERING COSTS
                    FOR VETERAN FAMILIES THROUGH THE
                         VA HOME LOAN PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2026

      Subcommittee on Economic Opportunity,
                    Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
                             U.S. House of Representatives,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 3:37 p.m., in 
room 360, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Derrick Van Orden, 
[chairman of the subcommittee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Van Orden, Hamadeh, King-Hinds, 
Pappas, and Kennedy.

        OPENING STATEMENT OF DERRICK VAN ORDEN, CHAIRMAN

    Mr. Van Orden. The subcommittee will come to order. I will 
figure out how to use these buttons later.
    I want to thank everyone for being here today to discuss 
affordability for our men and women who have served in ways we 
can improve and modernize the U.S. Department of Veterans 
Affairs (VA) Home Loan Program. The purpose of this VA benefit 
is to assist veterans and servicemembers with living the 
American Dream by purchasing their first home. As always, I 
appreciate the nonpartisan approach to the subcommittee, my 
friendship with Mr. Pappas, Ranking Member Pappas. It is a 
something I really truly enjoy that we have a great working 
relationship.
    In Fiscal Year 2025, an estimated 528,340 veterans, 
servicemembers, and their families used the VA Home Loan 
Program, with 61 percent of VA guaranteed loans being used for 
the initial purchase. VA has guaranteed over 29 million loans 
in excess of $4 trillion since the 1940's. I will tell you 
what, the VA Home Loan Guarantee Program and the GI Bill are 
the two best programs the U.S. Government has ever developed. 
These impressive numbers represent millions of veterans, their 
servicemembers, and families who may not have otherwise 
achieved the American dream of home ownership.
    I am also proud user of the VA Home Loan Program myself, 
and I personally know the benefits and purpose of this program 
can bring to veterans and their families. This is a benefit 
that we must protect to ensure it unleashes economic 
opportunity for today and tomorrow's veterans.
    Last year I championed H.R. 1815, VA Home Loan Program 
Reform Act, that was signed into law by President Trump. I am 
looking forward to full implementation of this partial claims 
program that will put the VA Home Loan Program on par with 
other Federal home loans in terms of options to mitigate 
foreclosure. That is something that I know the timing of that I 
think it should have--probably should have been earlier. We 
talked about this with the Veterans Affairs Servicing Purchase 
(VASP) deal. This law helps fulfill a promise to those who 
protect us with their services and continue--with their 
service, excuse me, and can continue to do so today by 
providing a safety net to maintain home ownership. I am very 
proud of our legislation and grateful to President Trump for 
signing it into law.
    I know the VA is working with industry to implement this 
law and encourage them to work closely with industry so that 
the good work we have done with this law is not wasted in 
bureaucratic red tape. The enactment and implementation of this 
law is important, but the work is not done. I am currently 
working on a piece of legislation that would streamline the VA 
Home Loan Program by requiring VA to review and update their 
outdated Minimum Property Requirements (MPR) and barriers to 
entry into the appraisal process.
    We must find ways to eliminate the unnecessary 
administrative costs of the VA home loan and better align it 
with other Federal housing programs so that it remains the best 
benefit our veterans in today's volatile housing market. It is 
both a priority of mine, Chairman Bost, our Republican 
conference, and President Trump to ensure that housing is 
affordable for all, especially our veterans. Today we will be 
hearing from industry experts about how to do just that.
    I was happy to see the VA is taking a closer look at 
updating some of their minimum property requirements, but there 
is more work that needs to be done to streamline the home loan 
program and remove unnecessary bureaucracy getting in the way 
of veteran home ownership. I want today's discussion to be 
meaningful, respectful obviously, and with the end state of 
keeping housing affordable for our veterans, servicemembers, 
and their families.
    With that, I would like to yield to my very good friend, 
Ranking Member Pappas.

       OPENING STATEMENT OF CHRIS PAPPAS, RANKING MEMBER

    Mr. Pappas. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this 
session. I agree with you that the VA Home Loan Guarantee 
Program is one of the most important commitments that we can 
make to veterans. So essential, especially at this moment where 
we are dealing with a housing crunch all across our country.
    We know that housing prices, along with pretty much every 
other expense a family faces, like energy and groceries, 
continue to rise. As veterans spend more money at the pump and 
at the grocery store, they have less to spend on rent, their 
mortgage, or to save for a down payment. From what I hear 
constantly from my constituents, and I am sure this applies to 
all of my colleagues, too, affordability concerns are not a 
hoax. They are a huge concern of Americans. I am thankful that 
we are holding this hearing in recognition of that.
    When we are talking about how to make a VA Home Loan 
Program more affordable, we cannot forget that veterans are 
facing the same housing and affordability crisis that impacts 
all Americans, a situation we cannot address through minor 
fixes to the home loan program itself. For example, when most 
Americans talk about barriers to buying a home, they are 
talking about the down payment. We know for veterans, one of 
the greatest advantages of the Home Loan Guarantee Program is 
that no money that no money down option, so down payments are 
not an issue for a lot of veterans.
    When it comes to closing fees, VA already limits what 
lenders can charge veterans. Of course, we should be open to a 
discussion about how limiting fees even more can save in terms 
of veterans costs. However, it is important to make clear that 
up to two-thirds of the closing fees a veteran pays are to 
register the deed, homeowners insurance, escrow, and taxes, 
none of which this committee can influence.
    My point here is that focusing on issues like fees should 
not divert our attention away from the crux of the problem. 
That is why we need a whole of government approach to tackle 
the housing crisis, lower cost for veterans and all Americans, 
and put home ownership back within reach for everyone. We 
should explore comprehensive policies that would provide real 
savings, tangible affordability, and accessibility to home 
loans for veterans.
    We need to focus on legislative packages, like the updated 
Senate-passed 21st Century Road to Housing Act, which House 
leadership has yet to put to the floor for a vote. This 
bipartisan bill includes bills I helped introduce that would 
cut red tape to build more housing, strengthen assistance to 
middle class homeowners for improvements and repairs, and 
expand access to the VA Home Loan Program by ensuring veterans 
are made aware of the benefit during the loan application 
stage. The housing crisis requires an all hands on deck 
approach and we should be using every tool at our disposal to 
create the conditions to tear down red tape, build more 
housing, and lower prices.
    In my State of New Hampshire, we are moving in that 
direction. We have a First in the Nation Veterans Campus in 
Franklin, which is a partnership between the private sector, 
government, and the nonprofit community, funded with Federal 
dollars and providing critical housing for our veterans. We are 
empowering our nonprofit and Veterans Service Organizations 
(VSO) partners, including Harbor Care, that have stepped up to 
fill a need for emergency, transitional, and permanent housing 
for veterans.
    Based on the testimony we received and we will hear 
momentarily, perhaps there are ways to align VA along with 
other Federal agencies to put veterans on an equal footing with 
nonveteran home buyers. However, the benefits must outweigh the 
cost, especially if proposals will ultimately expose veterans 
to excessive risks. Rather than discussing slight changes to 
improve accessibility, let us also focus on what this hearing 
should be about: affordability and that big picture 
conversation about how to bring down costs and make life better 
for veterans and all Americans.
    I look forward to the testimony today and I yield back.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman yields.
    Before I introduce the witness panel, I would like to 
recognize one of my constituents who is sitting in the 
audience. Jane, how are you? Thanks for coming very much. She 
works for Portage County and she does a fantastic job. Thank 
you so much for joining us today.
    I will now introduce the witness panel. Our first witness 
is Mr. Patrick Zondervan, executive director of Loan Guaranty 
Service at the Department of Veterans Affairs. Accompanying Mr. 
Zondervan is Mr. Terry Rouch, assistant director for Loan 
Policy and Valuation, Loan Guaranty Service at the Department 
of Veterans Affairs.
    I ask you two gentlemen to stand and raise your right hand.
    [Witnesses sworn.]
    Mr. Van Orden. You may be seated. Let the record reflect 
that the witnesses have answered in the affirmative.
    Mr. Zondervan, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to 
deliver your testimony on behalf of the Department of Veterans 
Affairs.

                 STATEMENT OF PATRICK ZONDERVAN

    Mr. Zondervan. Good afternoon, Chairman Van Orden, Ranking 
Member Pappas, and members of the subcommittee. Thank you for 
the opportunity to present information on several topics 
regarding the Department of Veterans Affairs' Home Loan 
Guarantee Program.
    Mr. Van Orden. Mr. Zondervan, is your microphone on?
    Mr. Zondervan. Yes. I will try to speak a little louder. 
How is that? Okay. Good afternoon, Chairman Van Orden, Ranking 
Member Pappas, and other members of the subcommittee. Thank you 
for the opportunity to present information on several topics 
regarding the Department of Veterans Affairs' Home Loan 
Guaranty Program. Joining me is Terry Rouch, assistant director 
for the VA Loan Policy and Valuation. My remarks will focus on 
a set of key issues that are both timely and significant to 
veteran home lending. These are also detailed in my written 
testimony for your reference.
    As the new executive director of VA Loan Guaranty Service, 
I have the distinct honor to lead the VA's Home Loan Program. 
The VA Home Loan Program is an earned benefit for veterans and 
servicemembers to obtain, retain, and adapt a home which truly 
recognizes their service to the Nation. As a veteran myself, I 
have personally leveraged the VA Home Loan Program more than 
once to secure stable housing for my family.
    Since 1944, VA has been helping veterans achieve the 
American Dream of home ownership. To date, VA has guaranteed 
more than 29 million home loans totaling over $4 trillion and 
there are more than 3.9 million active VA guaranteed loans. VA 
guaranteed home loans can be considered as one of the most 
useful VA benefits available to veterans and servicemembers and 
is a premier choice in opening the door to home ownership.
    VA home loans provide a great opportunity for the first-
time veteran home buyers to purchase a home because of the 
following unique features on the VA Home Loan Program. One 
hundred percent financing with no down payment required. 
Exemptions from paying the VA funding fee for service-connected 
disabled veterans in receipt of disability compensation. Limits 
on certain costs lenders may charge a veteran for origination 
and administrative fees to 1 percent. Lower interest rates. No 
monthly private insurance premiums. Allowing seller concessions 
of up to 4 percent of the reasonable value of the home for 
items like prepaid escrow and paying off consumer debts. These 
cost-saving measures ensure that the VA home loan is an 
affordable option for veterans.
    Even in tight housing markets VA continues to see strong 
demand for the program. In Fiscal Year 2025, VA guaranteed more 
than 500,000 home loans, with more than 60 percent of those 
being new and first-time homeowner purchases.
    While the demand for the VA Home Loan Program is strong, 
housing affordability remains a valid concern for veterans as 
it does for buyers in the conventional market. With mortgage 
rates around 6 percent on average, housing prices remain 
elevated in many areas where property taxes, homeowners' 
association fees, home insurance costs, and other unexpected 
repairs continue to impact the overall cost of home ownership.
    VA continues to make efforts to modernize its origination 
system and increase automation to allow lenders to submit 
proposed loan information prior to closing and identify 
potential errors that may lead to costly corrective measures 
after the loan is closed.
    Earlier this month, VA launched an enhancement to the VA 
mobile app that now allows eligible veterans to view their 
certificates of eligibility from their mobile phones. Within 
the first week, more than 35,000 certificates of eligibility 
were downloaded from the mobile app.
    An often misunderstood component of the VA program is the 
VA appraisal process, which is designed to ensure the home 
meets safety, soundness, and livability standards for veterans. 
These minimum property requirements have frustrated many 
buyers, sellers, and real estate agents alike. Today, I would 
like to set the record straight and dispel a few myths about 
the VA appraisals for the committee.
    The first myth is that the VA appraisals take too long. As 
of February 2026, VA appraisals are taking on average 7 
business days to complete, which is equal to other conventional 
and Federal Government programs.
    The second myth is that the VA appraisals are a home 
inspection. VA appraisals are not a home inspection. The VA 
home loan appraisal is an opinion of fair market value. VA is 
developing several actions to reduce and simplify the minimum 
property requirements for appraisals outlined in VA Regulation, 
Handbook policies, and procedures. This month, VA updated the 
VA Lenders Handbook chapter 12 with the removal of several 
minimum property requirements to streamline the appraisal 
process.
    In conclusion, VA will continue to support the path to home 
ownership through the VA Home Loan Program, strive to modernize 
our systems, streamline processes, and expand communication and 
education efforts to improve the VA Home Loan Program for 
future veterans and their families.
    Mr. Chairman, thank you for the continued support of the VA 
Home Loan Program and for this opportunity to speak today. This 
concludes my testimony and I welcome any questions that you or 
other members of the subcommittee may have.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Patrick Zondervan Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Mr. Van Orden. Thank you, Mr. Zondervan. The written 
statement of Mr. Zondervan will be entered into the hearing 
record.
    We are now going to proceed to questioning. Please stick to 
the 5-minute rule.
    I now recognize Ranking Member Pappas for 5 minutes to 
question the witnesses.
    Mr. Pappas. Well, thank you very much for that testimony. I 
appreciate the steps that you are already taking to make things 
more efficient and to streamline processes. I think that is 
incredibly important and we always need to be thinking about 
how we can do things a little bit better.
    We hear a lot of comments from industry that the processes 
and standards for the VA Home Loan Program are different from 
other government lending programs, especially when it comes to 
the appraisal process and minimum property requirements. I 
understand the desire for these programs to be matched up 
across the board as it would be easier for industry and it 
would reduce misconnections among sellers and real estate 
agents that VA-backed loans are harder to complete or take long 
longer to get done, as you have addressed. I have to question 
the logic, though, that we should lower VA standards to meet 
everyone else instead of perhaps raising all standards for 
Federal Housing Loan (FHA) and U.S. Department of Agriculture 
(USDA) to match VA.
    I am wondering, does the VA Home Loan Program perform 
better than similar programs at other agencies? Is that 
partially credited to the kinds of protections that are in 
place for veterans that are purchasing a home?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question, sir. The 
protections are very important because the veteran is our first 
priority. However, there are parts of our minimum property 
requirements that we can remove. Right now what we are doing is 
evaluating our policies and identifying any, you know, minimum 
property requirements that we can remove without compromising 
the additional features that we have to ensure that the safety, 
the soundness, and the sanitary conditions of the home remain 
in place.
    Mr. Pappas. Could you give folks some examples of ways that 
you feel like you could modify the property requirements in a 
way that would not hurt veterans or put them at risk?
    Mr. Zondervan. Certainly. Actually, I am going to defer to 
my colleague, Mr. Terry.
    Mr. Rouch. Thank you for that question. A lot of these are 
cosmetic in nature, so we are looking at some of the things 
that have been problematic over the years, such as chipped 
paint or peeling paint. Those are one of the ones that are out 
there. Hand railings, burglar bars, those type of things have 
been problematic, that while there are MPRs and other programs 
as well, VA has made those subject to in the past, and so those 
are the ones that we want to tackle.
    Mr. Pappas. You agree that there are certain minimum 
property requirements that you feel should stay in place as a 
means to protect veterans?
    Mr. Rouch. The whole purpose of minimum property 
requirements are safety, soundness, and sanitation. Those were 
the ones that we will be wanting to keep.
    Mr. Pappas. I appreciate that. Last year, the 
administration put an end to the VASP program, which we know 
offered veterans a low interest rate and refinances to avoid 
foreclosure. I am just wondering if you can say whether VASP 
prevented folks from getting foreclosed on and if that lowered 
the foreclosure rate for veterans.
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. The VASP 
program did end. The Secretary decided to end it in May of last 
year. Our focus right now remains on implementing the partial 
claims program, which will now provide the additional option 
for veterans to----
    Mr. Pappas. Yes. While it was in place, can you speak to, I 
mean, the fact that there were thousands of veterans that were 
assisted. I assume for those veterans that that helped them 
prevent foreclosure and that kept the foreclosure rate lower 
across the board. Would you agree with that?
    Mr. Zondervan. I would say that the VASP program at the 
time did have options to help veterans who were facing 
foreclosure, yes.
    Mr. Pappas. Okay. Well, it is certainly borne out in the 
numbers that I have seen. Talking about partial claims, I mean, 
we are approaching a year since this was, you know, designed 
and passed by Congress. We are really eager to see this 
implemented. With VASP gone, I am wondering what happens to 
veterans who are still waiting for this to be stood up.
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. There are other 
options before the partial claims rolls out. There are 
forbearance, special forbearance, modifications of the loans. 
Those options have always been available absent of the VASP 
program. We work closely with our servicers and the industry 
partners to ensure that when veterans reach a point of default, 
that they are offered all of the remaining options that are 
available until the partial claims program comes out.
    Mr. Pappas. We are seeing the foreclosure rate increase, 
and so I think time is of the essence here. I know you have 
been briefing staff. I am wondering if you can give us a 
clearer picture on the timetable for the rollout.
    Mr. Zondervan. Absolutely. Thank you for that question. Our 
goal is to have it available to the public in June of this 
year.
    Mr. Pappas. Okay. You have been through the comment period. 
I assume you have received significant comments from folks on 
the outside that would be, you know, working with veterans on 
loans. Can you characterize any of those comments and how long 
it is going to take to work through that, you will still be 
able to hit that June timeframe?
    Mr. Zondervan. Certainly. Thank you. We actually did 
something new with the VA. We used what is called a drafting 
table. It is different from comments through the regulatory 
process. We received well over 800 individual unique feedback 
items.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman's time has expired.
    Mr. Pappas. I yield back.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman yields back.
    The chair recognizes Representative Hamadeh from Arizona.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Zondervan, thank 
you for being here.
    As a veteran, myself and I represent Arizona's Eighth 
District, which is home to one of the fastest-growing veteran 
populations in the country, the median home prices in our 
communities are now topping $450,000. Young veterans fresh off 
Active Duty, they are trying to start families and put down 
roots in the State they defended, are being locked out, not 
because they lack discipline or drive, but because the VA Home 
Loan Program has failed to keep up with Arizona's skyrocketing 
cost of living and housing market.
    My first question is, Mr. Zondervan, my constituents in 
Arizona are getting slammed with what I call fee stacking. You 
know, lenders are charging the full 1 percent origination fee 
on VA loans, then piling on extra itemized charges for 
processing, underwriting, and others. That 1 percent is 
supposed to be all-in inclusive. It is meant to cover the 
lender's labor and overhead. Now, these sneaky add-on 
administrative fees are nothing but a cash grab and they need 
to be banned. Now, what is the VA doing right now to ensure our 
veterans are not paying twice for the same paperwork at 
closing?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. We look at 
data. Our systems evaluate data and if there is any evidence of 
misuse or inappropriate fees being charged, we do work with the 
lenders to recoup those fees back. If we receive complaints 
from veterans, we do a full file loan review. If we do find 
that there are overages and charges, those are actually paid 
back by the lender.
    Mr. Hamadeh. They get paid back to the veteran?
    Mr. Zondervan. To the VA because----
    Mr. Hamadeh. Now, right now the VA caps seller concessions 
at just 4 percent, as you know, now while FHA and USDA allow 6 
percent. In a red hot market like Phoenix, that 2 percent 
difference can sometimes be the difference-maker between 
winning and losing a home. Now, sellers see a VA offer and 
realize they are getting less help with closing costs and 
immediately choose the FHA buyer instead. Now, our veterans are 
getting squeezed out of the market they fought to protect. Now, 
does the VA support raising the seller concessions cap to 6 
percent to align with the other Federal agencies?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. Seller's 
concessions, it is kind of, you know, the higher you go on the 
seller's concessions, it can create some issues with cost 
because it is--what we have seen is that the lenders will--or 
the person selling the home, when you have higher concessions, 
that sometimes causes them to raise the price on the home. It 
does not necessarily help with affordability. That is one of 
the things that we are looking at. We will be glad to work with 
the committee to continue to look at that. We currently are at 
4 percent, but we do want to make sure that whatever decision 
we make, it will continue to protect the veteran and not cost 
them more down the road.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Yes, of course. I am about common sense. Right 
now, FHA, USDA are 6 percent. It seems to make sense to me to 
align the VA with FHA and USDA. My family is in real estate. I 
am very familiar with housing and I know the unintended 
consequences of that, what you are talking about. That is not 
what we are seeing. I would encourage you to go back to the VA 
and try to align that up with the FHA. Okay?
    Mr. Zondervan. I will be glad to take that into 
consideration.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Now, the VA has identified 436 counties across 
31 states that do not have enough certified appraisers to meet 
demand. The VA demands 3 to 5 years of experience for 
certification, while the FHA only requires 12 to 18 months. 
Now, that gap is forcing our veterans into longer wait times 
and much higher fees, sometimes $600 to $1,300 per appraisal 
versus just $400 to $700 on the FHA side. Is the VA willing to 
reduce its experience requirements to align with FHA standards 
and get more qualified appraisers into the pipeline?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that. We are absolutely 
willing to consider looking at our requirements and reducing 
those to help.
    Mr. Hamadeh. How are you doing that?
    Mr. Zondervan. I am working with my staff right now to 
determine the balance between what is required versus ensuring 
that the product that is delivered is still a quality product. 
I am looking forward to our modernization efforts, which will 
help us with the quality control of appraisals, which will then 
also help us reduce the requirements before a VA--before an 
appraiser can become part of the panel.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Yes, but it goes back to my previous question. 
We just got to align up with what FHA is doing. It seems like 
it is common sense to me, and I know it is common sense for our 
veterans as well. Thank you.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman yields.
    The chair now recognizes Representative King-Hinds from the 
Northern Mariana Islands.
    Ms. King-Hinds. Thank you very much for your time today.
    Earlier there was a lot of focus on how do we make things 
better for our vets. I kind of want to just start off and get 
your thoughts on what has the VA done to modernize the home 
loan program in recent years.
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. Part of our 
modernization efforts is what we call guaranteed remittance. It 
has four different parts where we use Application Programming 
Interface (API) to gather data and to be able to evaluate 
information. We have implemented our first part of that 
modernization 100 percent back in November 2024. We are about 
83 percent with the second API and about 34 percent with the 
third.
    Although our priority is partial claims right now, once we 
have partial claims implemented, we will continue to focus on 
getting guaranteed remittance to full production, as that is 
one of the things that our stakeholders have asked for and it 
is one of my priorities.
    Ms. King-Hinds. That is good to hear. Are you familiar with 
the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI)?
    Mr. Zondervan. Somewhat.
    Ms. King-Hinds. Somewhat. You know, one of the challenges 
that we have out there, and I was reading the written submitted 
testimony of the second panel, the folks that are coming right 
behind you, and they were talking about shortage of housing 
available in general. Right. That is a challenge out here. That 
is not the challenge out in the Northern Mariana Islands. I 
think more outreach with regards to the programs that you 
provide needs to be done so that, you know, the vets out there 
know, right, that they have this opportunity and the ability to 
avail of this program.
    I think Abe has mentioned that Arizona, he has a lot of 
veterans who are living in Arizona. Well, we have the second 
highest enlistment rate per capita across any State or 
territory. You know, folks are coming back home and this 
program is incredibly useful. That is why I want to thank the 
chairman for taking the lead with me to sponsor the Heroes 
Owning and Materializing Equity (HOME) Act, which addresses or 
attempts to close in some of the gaps by explicitly requiring 
that the VA does an outreach to places like the CNMI.
    Ranking Member Pappas mentioned that, you know, the 
priority right now should be how do we make housing more 
affordable? I think it is the President's priority as well to 
make home ownership more affordable. What are you doing toward 
that effort?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. The VA Home 
Loan Program is already a fantastic program. It is the best 
option for veterans out there. I am willing to work with the 
committee if you have any legislative proposals that you would 
like for us to view or provide technical assistance. We do want 
to help make it more affordable, so any opportunities that 
there are, we will be glad to work with your committee and our 
stakeholders as well.
    Ms. King-Hinds. If you were to give a suggestion in terms 
of what policies are standing in the way to be able to open up 
that path, what would it be?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. I do not have a 
specific suggestion at this time. You know, our program, as I 
stated, has a lot of benefits already. If you have ideas on how 
we could make it better, we would welcome that and we will work 
with you.
    Ms. King-Hinds. All right. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentlelady yields back.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    Who writes the requirements for the--so I just want to talk 
a little bit about some of the stuff that Ranking Member Pappas 
was saying and also my Republican colleagues. About this 
appraisal thing, it is fascinating to me. How long is the 
residency for a family practice physician? It is 3 years. If 
you can do a residency to become a family practice physician in 
3 years, why would you take 5 years to be an appraiser? I am 
not trying to degrade appraisers. It is, you know, it is a 
great vocation. I just do not see, you know, 5 years is a very 
long time.
    It is not just the fact--and I understand the times for 
getting an appraisal, you are right, you know, they are 
generally on par. I have never had a problem with it. When you 
are talking about 5 years, that is 5 years of a bunch of 
different people doing essentially repetitive tasks. To me, 
that looks like another VA jobs program. You are paying for 
these other people to train them as an apprentice to look at 
paint chips and stuff like that. It just seems like a waste of 
time and money, and we cannot waste time and money anymore.
    Who writes these requirements? I mean, there is a bunch of 
people like, hey, let us pile on all these requirements to make 
it take a half a decade to become an appraiser? Who writes 
those?
    Mr. Zondervan. Thank you for that question. I fully agree 
with you. I am new to this program.
    Mr. Van Orden. I know.
    Mr. Zondervan. However, there is a lot of opportunity for 
us to reduce that 5-year significantly. I will be working on 
that with my staff. It is within my control to change that.
    Mr. Van Orden. It is. I am going to admit it, I knew the 
answer to that question before I asked it.
    One of the greatest slogans ever for advertising was Nike 
when they said, just do it. The Trump administration has taken 
that and they say, just do things. This is something that you 
can do. You are empowered by your position to do this, and it 
could really be significant. Very happy about that.
    Now, Ranking Member Pappas, I want you to understand that 
this is a bipartisan thing. You had three people talking about 
this. I am not happy at all with the fact that it is going to 
be June before partial claims is done. That timeline is too 
long. You know what Chris' concerns are absolutely valid. We do 
not want veterans getting booted out of their homes. Right? I 
want you--I do not know if you can say yes right now, but I 
want to talk to you later about this. I want to guarantee that 
you are not going to foreclose on any single veterans if you 
have the ability to do so until this partial claims gets done. 
Okay? If that is in your power, I need to know that. Then I 
want your word if you can do that.
    That is really all. Chris, do you want to do a second 
round? Do you have more questions?
    Mr. Pappas. I think I am good.
    Mr. Van Orden. You guys good? Okay. Well, very well. With 
that, I am going to yield back because my buddy has got all the 
questions.
    Thank you very much for coming, gentlemen. You are excused. 
I hope you stick around and listen to the second panel.
    Please be seated. We will have you stand up in a sec.
    Our second panel, we are going to hear from the following 
witnesses. Our first witness is Mr. Owen Lee, 2026 chair-elect 
of the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA). Our next witness is 
Mr. Kurt Thompson, executive committee member at the National 
Association of Realtors (NAR). Our final witness is Ms. Alice--
is it, Alice? Alys, that is a very neat name, Cohen, director 
of Federal Housing Advocacy at National Consumer Law Center 
(NCLC).
    I would like to welcome you very much to the table, and I 
ask now that you would stand and raise your right hand. Sorry. 
You are very eager. That is great.
    [Witnesses sworn.]
    Mr. Van Orden. All right. Thank you very much. Let the 
record reflect that the witnesses have answered in the 
affirmative.
    Mr. Lee, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to deliver 
your testimony.

                     STATEMENT OF OWEN LEE

    Mr. Lee. And members of this subcommittee, thank you for 
the opportunity to testify today on behalf of the Mortgage 
Bankers Association. My name is Owen Lee. I serve as the MBA's 
2026 chair-elect and I am also chief executive officer of 
Success Mortgage Partners (SMP). I have more than 30 years of 
experience in residential real estate finance as an independent 
mortgage banker.
    I founded Success Mortgage Partners, headquartered in 
Plymouth, Michigan, in 2002. Our firm originates mortgages in 
43 states and the District of Columbia, closing billions of 
dollars of loans every year. Today, SMP is a top 100 VA lender. 
Since 2020, we have closed between 100-and $220 million loans 
each year. I am proud that over the last 6 years SMP has helped 
more than 3,100 veteran families secure the dream of home 
ownership.
    Many of those VA loan closings have been memorable, 
especially one very close to me. It involved my cousin, retired 
Sergeant First Class Damien Siwik. Sergeant Siwik is a 22-year 
Army veteran and recipient of the rarely received Soldier's 
Medal, one of the highest honors a soldier can receive for an 
act of valor in a noncombat situation. During his Army service, 
he completed multiple tours of duty on the Demilitarized Zone 
(DMZ) in Korea and then Honduras, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan. 
He retired from the Army nearly 10 years ago.
    As a soldier, my cousin never lived in a singular posting 
for more than 3 years. He made the achievement--this made the 
achievement of home ownership quite difficult. Sergeant Siwik 
was also judged 70 percent disabled upon his discharge due to 
circumstances directly related to his service. It was with 
immense pride that on January 17th of 2025, I helped my cousin 
become a homeowner for the first time at age 58.
    The MBA is honored to have productive working relationships 
with the full House Veterans' Affairs Committee and this 
subcommittee, including your highly professional staff. I want 
to highlight a few of MBA's recommendations to strengthen and 
improve the VA Home Loan Program. More details can be found in 
my written testimony.
    I appreciate the full committee passing H.R. 1815, the VA 
Home Loan Program Reform Act, which last year created a 
practical and permanent partial claim program, aligning with 
existing programs across other Federal housing agencies. This 
law ensures veterans are not left behind during moments of 
financial stress. MBA commends the VA for their transparent and 
open drafting table process to implement the new Partial Claim 
Authority, but would encourage the agency to improve their 
draft waterfall proposal in the following ways.
    A borrower should not have to agree to a monthly payment 
increase before receiving other home retention options that do 
not result in a payment increase. It is also important for the 
policy to explicitly allow servicers the option to offer 
regular forbearance so a veteran homeowner does not have to 
commit to a repayment option before their hardship has ended 
up.
    Beyond the partial claims implementation, MBA would also 
encourage the VA to make certain other programmatic changes. 
Among a list included in my written statement: to align minimum 
property requirements with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; to 
reform the Interest Rate Reduction Refinance Loan (IRRRL) 
program to improve its effectiveness and assure ensure it 
reflects today's mortgage market; to modernize the allowable 
fee schedule structure that VA mortgage servicers can charge to 
process an assumable loan; and to align the agency's fee 
documentation requirements with how third-party services are 
actually billed and documented.
    I would be remiss if I did not mention that MBA stands by 
its traditional position that the use of any revenue generated 
by VA home loan funding fees should only be used for the 
benefit of the VA's Home Loan Program itself.
    In closing, I want to thank the committee for its time and 
attention on ways to reduce costs and improve efficiencies with 
this vital program, ensuring it better serves veteran families 
as they pursue their slice of the American Dream, and I look 
forward to answering any questions you may have.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Owen Lee Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Mr. Van Orden. Thank you, Mr. Lee. The written statement of 
Mr. Lee will be entered into the hearing record.
    Mr. Thompson, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to 
deliver your testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF KURT THOMPSON

    Mr. Thompson. Thank you, Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member 
Pappas, and distinguished members of the subcommittee. My name 
is Kurt Thompson and I am the broker owner of RE/MAX Liberty in 
Westminster, Massachusetts, where I have been helping buyers 
and sellers for over 29 years. I am testifying today on behalf 
of the more than 1.4 million members of the National 
Association of Realtors. I am also a veteran. I served for 8 
years with the Army Reserve and one of the 157th Air Refueling 
Wing in New Hampshire's Air National Guard.
    The VA Home Loan Program helped me to achieve home 
ownership, which is why, as a standard practice, I ask every 
buyer whether they have VA eligibility. I know from my own 
experience that the no down payment feature can be the 
difference between owning a home or continuing to rent.
    Before I turn to where I think the program can be 
strengthened, I want to thank this subcommittee for its 
leadership in passing H.R. 1815. This legislation will help 
ensure our Nation's veterans utilizing the VA benefit have 
access to professional representation when making one of the 
most important decisions of their lives.
    That said, even the strongest loan benefit can only do so 
much when the availability of homes is in such short supply. 
NAR research estimates that Americans face a shortage of almost 
5 million homes in my market. In Massachusetts, most entry 
level buyers are looking in the 300,000 to 500,000 range and 
there simply are not enough homes at that price point. The 
ability for veterans to purchase with no down payment is VA 
loan program's greatest strength, and it is most meaningful 
when affordable homes are within reach.
    Strengthening the benefit and increasing supply are 
complementary goals, and both are essential. This is why NAR 
strongly urges Congress to pass the 21st Century Road to 
Housing Act, H.R. 6644, and the More Homes on the Market Act, 
H.R. 1340, which will unlock existing inventory by modernizing 
the capital gain exemption.
    Turning to the program itself, I want to spend most of my 
time on appraisals because that is where I see the issues most 
clearly in my day-to-day work. The biggest competitive 
challenge I see with VA buyers is closing costs leading to 
appraisal risk. Many of my veteran buyers have limited cash on 
hand, and closing costs largely cannot be rolled into the VA 
loan. This means that I often need to negotiate seller 
concessions. In a hot market like mine, sellers have a certain 
expectation of the amount of proceeds they will receive and 
from the sale of their property. To get the seller the number 
they need and secure the concession my clients need, the offer 
has to go above the asking price. As a result, the appraisal 
has to come in at that higher number. If it does not, the 
seller has to either take less or walk away. When they have 
another offer on the table without that complication, that is 
where veterans lose homes.
    Another issue I see is that property conditions are 
generally acceptable for conventional loans are required to be 
flagged by VA appraisers. These additional requirements can add 
time and cost or even kill purchases, giving sellers yet 
another reason to favor conventional or cash offers. NAR 
recommends Congress direct VA to align its minimum property 
requirements with Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSE) 
standards, modernizing appraisal timelines, and expand the 
appraisal pool.
    Beyond appraisals, there is another issue that represents 
real untapped potential, which is loan assumptions. VA loans 
are assumable, which in today's high interest rate environment 
sounds like an incredible feature. A buyer can take on a 
seller's 2.5 or 3 percent mortgage instead of borrowing at 
today's rates, which would have significant impact on the 
monthly payment. However, I cannot think of a single 
transaction in my career where an assumption is actually 
closed. The process can take up to 90 days or more, and most 
buyers cannot bridge the equity gap in cash.
    The assumption benefit exists on paper, but in practice it 
rarely pencils out. NAR recommends VA reevaluate the cap on 
lender compensation and that Congress explore financing 
solutions to close the equity gap. Congress should also address 
veterans losing their entitlement when a nonveteran assumes 
their loan.
    The VA Home Loan Guarantee Program has been one of the most 
important benefits our Nation offers and I am proud to have 
benefited from it personally. When it works well, it is a 
powerful path to achieving the American Dream of home ownership 
and the kind of wealth-building that can last generations. This 
program deserves to be the best it can be and NAR stands ready 
to work with this committee and VA to make that happen.
    I thank you for your time and I welcome your questions.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Kurt Thompson Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Mr. Van Orden. Thank you, Mr. Thompson. The written 
statement of Mr. Thompson will be entered into the hearing 
record.
    Ms. Cohen, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to deliver 
your testimony.

                    STATEMENT OF ALYS COHEN

    Ms. Cohen. Thank you. Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member 
Pappas, and members of the subcommittee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify on behalf of the low-income clients of 
the National Consumer Law Center regarding the VA Home Loan 
Guarantee Program. I am Alys Cohen, director of Federal Housing 
Advocacy at NCLC, and the daughter of a proud Air Force 
veteran. We support the goal of promoting affordability for 
veteran homeowners and we recognize the key role of the VA Home 
Loan Program. Today I will address the key tool VA has to make 
veteran home ownership more affordable, improving its hardship 
options, and I will discuss several issues relating to VA 
lending policies, all of which would have limited effect on 
today's affordability crisis, in great part because those 
challenges are marketwide.
    The most important step the VA can take to promote 
affordability for veterans is to help them retain their homes 
when feasible and avoid devastating home loss when they face 
financial hardships, including those related to their service. 
These home retention programs keep kids in school, stabilize 
neighborhoods, prevent home equity loss, and allow veterans to 
avoid an unforgiving rental market. However, the mortgage 
relief options available for veteran borrowers remain less 
favorable than the options available to other borrowers with 
federally backed mortgages, and a higher share of veteran 
borrowers are moving to active foreclosure.
    The situation for delinquent VA borrowers should improve 
due to passage of the VA Home Loan Program Reform Act, and we 
thank members of this committee for your leadership on that 
legislation. However, the newly authorized partial claim 
program has not yet begun and VA's draft handbook proposals do 
not fulfill the promise of the legislation, especially with 
respect to affordability, primarily because the agency's 
proposal requires a homeowner to accept up to a 15 percent 
increase in their monthly payment before accessing the partial 
claim. Of the roughly 90,000 VA borrowers who are seriously 
delinquent on their loan today, we estimate that over 30,000 
will face a payment increase under this approach, which on 
average would raise their monthly payment by $150 per month.
    VA includes other options that create more affordable 
payments, but these are not offered until later in the draft 
waterfall. We sincerely appreciate the fact that VA placed its 
proposed waterfall on the drafting table for comment. We are 
hopeful that VA will make changes as a result of the consistent 
feedback it has received to change the order of its waterfall 
to prioritize affordability.
    The VA's proposal, while understandably seeking to be 
sensitive to the need to limit term extensions and total 
amounts due, is out of step with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and 
FHA, which only consider payment increases as a last resort, if 
at all. To promote affordability truly, VA should ensure that 
veteran borrowers have options that promote affordability 
first, which will save money for the VA fund, veteran 
borrowers, and mortgage servicers.
    In addition, we urge the VA to adopt measures to hold off 
foreclosures until the partial claim program becomes widely 
available. We have suggested full pay forbearance, which would 
allow servicers to accept monthly payments again for veterans 
who can resume payments. This would meet the goal that the 
chairman just expressed about stopping foreclosures until the 
new program is up and running.
    Aside from adjustments to its home retention program, the 
other steps VA could take will only help affordability around 
the edges at best or would seek to address issues not within 
VA's control. The problems of housing supply and overall market 
affordability are problems for all home buyers and mortgage 
borrowers.
    The VA's appraisal and minimum property standards ensure 
the soundness of the homes veterans purchase and catch faulty 
appraisals. Any change should be first examined for fair 
lending compliance and any needed additional system 
accountability. Any steps the agency takes on underwriting 
should avoid changes that could undermine loan performance or 
unnecessarily narrow program access. VA's unique underwriting 
guidelines with a focus on the borrower's residual income have 
led to an impressive track record. Any reductions in closing 
costs will be limited, if useful, and cannot have a significant 
impact on market-wide affordability issues. VA should also 
explore a small dollar mortgage loan pilot in coordination with 
FHA.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify. We urge VA to 
stand up the partial claim, with a new waterfall, in a way that 
protects the fund, limits servicer burden, and stabilizes home 
ownership.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Alys Cohen Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Mr. Van Orden. The gentlelady's time has expired.
    The chair now recognizes Ranking Member Pappas for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Pappas. Thanks.
    Mr. Van Orden. Oh, excuse me.
    Mr. Pappas. Go for it, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Van Orden. Ma'am, your written statement will be 
entered into the record.
    The chair now really actually recognizes Ranking Member 
Pappas. Thanks.
    Mr. Pappas. Well, thanks very much, Mr. Chairman. I 
appreciate everyone's testimony here today.
    Mr. Lee, your team testimony that was submitted to us, you 
said, ``Veterans today, just as in the early 1980's, face one 
of the most challenging housing affordability environments in 
decades, marked by elevated interest rates, limited inventory, 
and rising home prices.'' I am just wondering for all the 
witnesses here, you have touched on this, but can you stress 
what the major headwinds are facing buyers right now, Mr. Lee, 
if you can start?
    Mr. Lee. I think that the largest headwind facing buyers is 
supply. It is the supply of inventory of homes for sale. The 
supply of inventories of homes for sale is up in relation to 
where it has been since COVID, but it has never recovered in 
terms of there not being enough houses for sale.
    Obviously, we have a supply problem. The amount of homes 
that we used to build in this company--or country up to the 
Great Recession has never recovered from after the Great 
Recession. Anything that can be done in order to bring a 
greater supply of homes onto the market, building new and/or 
anything that can be done to get people to put more homes on 
the market, like the piece of legislation to modernize and step 
up the capital gains tax deduction for the sale of your primary 
residence, would help this situation quite a bit.
    Mr. Pappas. I see our realtors nodding. Anything else you 
want to add in terms of headwinds?
    Mr. Thompson. Absolutely. It is definitely inventory supply 
and shortage. We estimate there is about a 5 million home 
shortage. That translates to, roughly, if we could increase 
production by 400,000 units, it would take us easily 12 to 13 
years to catch up to demand. That is a big deal. There are 
provisions around the table. H.R. 1340 is one of those bills 
that can assist, as is H.R. 6644.
    Mr. Pappas. Thank you. Ms. Cohen.
    Ms. Cohen. Agree about supply. It is obviously a big issue. 
Prices are also quite high. Having institutional investors 
involved in the market is also making a home out of reach for a 
lot of people. It would be a mistake to only look at home 
buyers and not look at staying in the home. I would just add 
that once we get people into homes, we need to make sure that 
they can afford to stay in their homes. Thank you.
    Mr. Pappas. Well, thanks, Ms. Cohen. I was going to note in 
your written testimony you referred to that, saying the most 
affordable home is the one where they currently reside. 
Actually, Mr. Lee, you said that. Ms. Cohen, you said, ``The 
most important step that VA can take is to promote 
affordability for veterans and help them avoid unnecessary, 
devastating home loss when they face financial hardships.''
    I wanted to just ask about the end of the VASP program. I 
appreciate the chairman's comments about how we can stave off 
foreclosure for veterans that are anticipating this partial 
claims program coming online. Did the end of VASP negatively 
impact veterans in the VA Home Loan Program, and has it had any 
impact on the foreclosure rate overall?
    Ms. Cohen, I do not know if that is something you want to 
take.
    Ms. Cohen. We work with attorneys around the country who 
represent veterans and other borrowers with federally backed 
mortgages. After the VASP program was canceled, there were many 
homeowners who were facing hardship, who needed a solution that 
was just out of reach because the new program was not yet 
online. It has definitely pushed more people to the brink of 
foreclosure and home loss given that we have not had a program 
in this gap period.
    Mr. Pappas. Yes. Mr. Lee, any observations there?
    Mr. Lee. No, we just wanted to reiterate our thanks to 
everybody on this committee on both sides of the aisle for the 
help in getting the Partial Claims Act passed. We would commend 
the VA for their drafting table approach because that would 
promote a better solution faster, even though we would like to 
see it as soon as possible. I can promise you that our members 
and our servicing members are readying themselves to implement 
it as fast and professionally as possible as soon as we get it.
    Mr. Pappas. Yes. Mr. Thompson, thanks so much for your 
service through the New Hampshire Air National Guard. I should 
have led with that at the top. We appreciate what the Guard 
does for all Granite Staters. You talked about the disparity 
that can exist with veteran buyers and some of the challenges 
that they have with seller concessions and, you know, having to 
offer above asking price. How do we work to level that playing 
field?
    Mr. Thompson. Absolutely. One of the things that came up 
was increasing the concession from 4 to 6 percent. That would 
make a huge difference, in my opinion. One of the areas where 
we can streamline or make things more affordable for our 
veterans is when we are able to work with the seller to provide 
a concession toward those closing costs to minimize the amount 
of cash coming in.
    In terms of the minimum property requirements, that is a 
challenge as well. Many times veteran buyers take themselves 
out of contention even before they get to the point of offer, 
knowing that the property may not be in a condition that is 
going to pass those requirements. As good stewards of our 
veteran buyers, we do not want to walk them into landmines when 
resources may be limited. It is very important that we 
streamline those issues as well.
    Mr. Pappas. Thank you. My time is up, so I yield back.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman yields back.
    The chair now recognizes Representative Hamadeh from the 
great State of Arizona.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Thank you, Chairman.
    Mr. Van Orden. You are welcome.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Mr. Lee, from the lender side of the table, 
where is the single biggest source of delay or added costs in 
the VA loan process as compared to conventional or FHA loans?
    Mr. Lee. Well, the MBA would like to see a modernization of 
both the appraisal standards and how appraisers are approved 
for the process. The MBA does believe that 5 years is too long. 
We would love to see something much closer to the way the rest 
of the market operates. A lot of states have adopted a 2-year 
period. That we think would be sufficient and that would speed 
along that process.
    Also, you know, as we have talked about, a modernization of 
the minimum property standards to bring it closer to where 
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are with the GSEs would definitely 
streamline the program.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Now VA still relies on manual underwriting, 
while FHA has moved to the semiautomated systems that can 
approve a loan in 2 to 7 days compared to the VA's roughly 10. 
Now, from an industry standpoint, what would automated 
underwriting do for VA loan competitiveness and for the 
veterans waiting on approvals?
    Mr. Lee. Automated underwriting does speed along the loan 
process, especially for the loans that are, you know, fit more 
right away into the box of underwriting where the underwriting 
is simple, the income is simple, so that would be helpful. We 
do not think it is the absolute major choke point of getting a 
VA loan approved as fast as possible.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Right. If it could speed it up by maybe 8 to 3 
days compared to FHA, that would make a big difference.
    Mr. Lee. It would make a difference and it would reduce the 
stigma that sometimes on a VA loan for the fact that it might 
be harder or take longer to get to the closing table. Sure.
    Mr. Hamadeh. I am all about just making it simple. You 
know, if FHA is doing something, I do not see why VA is taking 
a longer time. They are both Federal programs.
    Now, Mr. Thompson, I hear from veterans in Phoenix, Peoria, 
Surprise, Glendale, that there is a real stigma against VA 
loans in competitive housing markets. Listing agents falsely 
claim that VA loans take longer to close or have a higher 
denial rate when the data shows it is just the opposite. VA 
loans actually have the lowest denial rate of any loan type. 
Now, from your experience in the field, how pervasive Is this 
stigma and what can be done to educate the real estate 
community?
    Mr. Thompson. I think that it is a timeline issue. So many 
times when you are looking at a transaction, the appraisal 
comes in at a certain point after home inspections, purchase, 
and sales. When that is coming in, there is a potential for a 
property to have a risk exposure on those elements within the 
minimum property requirements, which require either a seller to 
take action and repair them, the consumer to take action or 
repair them, or the transaction could become terminal. There is 
an added risk over, say, a conventional or a cash purchase. 
Unfortunately, in the market, that can cause some challenges.
    Now, I can tell you, I had a client just a year and a half 
ago, they accepted the VA loan over a higher cash offer. There 
are still sellers out there that value the good work of our 
servicemen and women, and we will do the right thing, but we 
cannot rely on that. We need to try to streamline those 
programs to minimize friction for our veterans.
    Mr. Hamadeh. Yes, that is great. There are so many brave, 
patriotic Americans that are willing to support our 
servicemembers as well.
    Mr. Thompson. Absolutely.
    Mr. Hamadeh. I want to thank you all, and I yield back, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Mr. Van Orden. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Lee, you said something really interesting I thought 
was kind of--so right now, when we look at this waterfall, the 
VA is intending on making servicemembers who are having issues 
making their mortgage, the partial claim mandatory, out of the 
gate. Is that correct?
    Mr. Lee. I do not believe that is correct, but we would 
like to see some changes in the waterfall.
    Mr. Van Orden. Yes, we need to--I mean, we have the copy of 
it and all that stuff, but we need to--me and Chris got to sit 
down and look at this collectively and our staffs to make sure 
we agree with it. With Chevron deference, that finding, if it 
does not comport to our intent, then that rule will not stand. 
As opposed to having to undo something, I would prefer to make 
sure that we nail it, right, so let us, if it is cool with you, 
let us talk about that later to get, I mean, to really get down 
to brass tacks on this so we do not have to undo something that 
the administration does.
    Ma'am, Ms. Cohen, I want you to know that we were not, 
like, blowing you off. We are discussing the points that you 
were bringing up to make sure that we can have a really good 
discussion at the time. I appreciate you doing that stuff. 
There are some things that we do need to address about VASP and 
the reason that it went away is that the previous 
administration wrote what would have been an $18 billion check 
without congressional authorization. My concern is, and I 
stated this earlier, the two best programs that the U.S. 
Government has ever developed or the Veterans Home Loan 
Guarantee Program and the GI Bill. For someone to 
administratively decide that they can magically create an $18 
billion problem set without talking to us about it, directly 
contravenes the will of Congress.
    We do not want to see any veteran removed from their home 
ever. I do not want to see that happen. We have to make sure 
that we maintain the integrity of the program. Every single 
person in the future that wants to buy a home or is currently 
on Active Duty has the availability to use this program. That 
is the intent. That is why we did the partial claim thing, to 
align it with other Federal lending programs. I know that 
because we wrote it.
    There is one other thing.
    Ms. Cohen. Mr. Chairman, may I respond?
    Mr. Van Orden. Yes, sure, go ahead.
    Ms. Cohen. First of all, my father went to college on the 
GI Bill and he bought the house I grew up in with VA benefits.
    Mr. Van Orden. Right. You know what I am talking about.
    Ms. Cohen. I agree with you about that.
    Mr. Van Orden. Yes.
    Ms. Cohen. Second, I think the question right now is what 
can we do now before the partial claim is stood up so that 
people do not lose their homes between now and then.
    Mr. Van Orden. Yes.
    Ms. Cohen. You raised that issue yourself. We are 
suggesting something called full pay forbearance. People who 
can resume their payments, who will be able to qualify for the 
new system, should not be further behind because they did not 
have their payments accepted. We are suggesting that as a 
stopgap measure. It will stop them from falling further behind 
and prevent avoidable foreclosures.
    Mr. Van Orden. Can you explain, thank you for that, can you 
explain the having to accept a 15 percent increase in their 
mortgage?
    Ms. Cohen. The way the proposal works from VA, and it is my 
understanding that they have heard similar feedback and they 
are looking at it closely, is that the top options before you 
get to the payment, that would stay the same, or the partial 
claim, is that if you can qualify for a 30-year mortgage with 
an up to 15 percent payment increase, then you do not get to 
the next option and then you stay at that higher payment. I 
believe the goal of that was to not extend people's terms or 
total amounts due. What it gives people is an unaffordable 
payment that will lead to foreclosure.
    Mr. Van Orden. Okay. That is exactly why we need to really 
get into the weeds. Really, a hearing like this is not really 
the setting for that. That is sitting down and looking at these 
things in detail and preempting any issues that we may have 
ahead of time.
    Well, with that, I do not have any more questions. I want 
to thank you very much for coming today, and I appreciate your 
work. I know that your heart is exactly where ours is. That is 
making sure that every single man and woman that serves our 
Nation in uniform has the ability to live the American Dream, 
and that is home ownership.
    Oh, you know what? My time is expired. Do you mind if I 
just ask one more thing? Hey, how much money are you into 
building a home before you even break ground?
    Mr. Thompson. I am not qualified to ask that because it--
answer that because it varies by location and the red tape of 
getting it through the local municipality.
    Mr. Van Orden. Boop.
    Mr. Thompson. There are a lot of things we can work on that 
together to streamline, and look forward to doing so.
    Mr. Van Orden. You nailed it, Mr. Thompson. It is somewhere 
around $100,000.
    Mr. Lee. Yes, we have been in a lot of meetings where I 
have heard between 70-and 95,000 or higher, depending upon 
where you are.
    Mr. Van Orden. You are buying a $200,000 home for $300,000 
because there is a whole bunch of people that got 6 bosses and 
want you to fill out 400 pieces of paperwork, right?
    Mr. Lee. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Van Orden. That is what we need to change. That is 
where your affordability comes in. Getting rid of these damn 
bureaucrats and paperwork and just do things. All right.
    Listen, God bless you guys. Thank you so much for coming. I 
appreciate it.
    Mr. Lee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Van Orden. I ask unanimous that all members may have 5 
legislative days to revise and extend their remarks, including 
extraneous material. Without objection.
    [Whereupon, at 4:39 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]

      
      
      
      
      
      
   
      
      
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                    Prepared Statements of Witnesses

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                Prepared Statement of Patrick Zondervan

    Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member Pappas, and other Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today 
to discuss the Department of Veterans Affairs' Home Loan program. 
Joining me is Mr. Terry Rouch, Assistant Director for Loan Policy and 
Valuation, VBA.
    VA's home loan program enables private lenders to offer eligible 
Veterans and service members loans that are guaranteed by the 
Department, in many cases eliminating the need for a down payment and 
mortgage insurance and making home ownership much more affordable.
    Since the program's creation in 1944, VA has guaranteed more than 
29 million home loans totaling over $4 trillion dollars.
    This success is directly tied to VA's efforts to keep home loans 
affordable for Veterans. For example, VA limits the types and amounts 
of fees that lenders can charge, meaning Veterans can devote more 
resources to paying down interest and building equity. VA also strives 
to promote lower interest rates and administer the program so Veterans 
can take full advantage of up to 100 percent financing with no private 
mortgage insurance and a $0 down payment. VA continues to work to 
improve its Home Loan program to address market and affordability 
concerns.

Reducing High Closing Costs

    VA-guaranteed loans are made by private lenders and are subject to 
prevailing market conditions. Aside from ensuring that statutory loan 
fees required under 38 U.S.C. Sec.  3729 are paid, VA does not set the 
financial terms or impose any specific closing costs on Veterans.
    VA does prescribe limitations, however, to protect Veterans from 
predatory lending and unreasonable or unnecessary costs. First, VA 
allows a Veteran to pay the actual costs for third-party services that 
are generally necessary for a home loan origination but only if they 
are reasonable and customary. These items include appraisals, recording 
fees, taxes, assessments, credit reports, hazard insurance, flood zone 
determinations, surveys, and title work.
    Since VA cannot dictate third-party prices, a Veteran's cost can 
vary widely based on locality and market trends. For example, a 
national credit bureau recently announced a price increase of 3 percent 
on mortgage credit reports, which followed a significant, earlier 50 
percent price rise. VA has no authority to limit a credit bureau's 
fees. If lenders have to pay the difference, they will find a way to 
pass those costs along (for example, through a higher interest rate).
    Second, unlike some other loan programs, VA limits the amount 
lenders can charge for processing and underwriting fees. VA has capped 
that amount at 1 percent of the loan amount. This restriction helps 
ensure that lenders can properly evaluate the loan from a credit and 
business perspective without subjecting the Veteran to predatory 
finance charges.
    Another way VA helps borrowers is by allowing unlimited seller 
contributions for closing costs. VA also permits seller concessions of 
up to 4 percent of the reasonable value for items like prepayment of 
the buyer's property taxes and insurance and paying off consumer debts. 
VA also spurs lower closing costs by allowing for the use of Attorney 
Opinion Letters as an alternative to obtaining a title insurance 
policy. This change allows for additional cost savings in localities 
where such letters are more affordable than title policies.

Modernization of VA's Underwriting System

    Most credit underwriting efforts for VA-guaranteed loans are 
performed by private lenders rather than the Department itself. Lenders 
are required to apply VA's underwriting standards and guidelines when 
approving a loan. VA allows lenders to utilize Automated Underwriting 
Systems (AUS), such as Fannie Mae's Desktop Underwriter or Freddie 
Mac's Loan Prospector systems, to assist in the assessment of credit 
risk and the evaluation of the acceptability of the loan. VA does not 
require the use of an AUS and encourages lenders to holistically review 
loan applications and make VA-guaranteed loans available to Veterans 
based on a positive review of their individual credit profile.
    WebLGY is VA's web-based application system that helps facilitate 
the origination of VA-guaranteed home loans. WebLGY helps Veterans 
obtain a Certificate of Eligibility (COE), initiates appraisal orders, 
and processes Loan Guaranty Certificate requests. WebLGY connects with 
other external technology systems and applications, such as our 
automated appraisal management service, which analyzes thousands of 
business rules to ensure compliance with appraisal policies and 
quality.
    VA has made upgrades and continues to work on development of new 
functionality within our systems. For example, the Guaranty Remittance 
Application Programming Interface (API) will enable lenders to 
streamline part of their post-closing operations by avoiding the need 
to manually input data to obtain the VA Loan Guaranty Certificate. VA 
began development and released the first series of enhancements to 
WebLGY in 2023 and continues to make incremental strides toward full 
implementation of VA's end-to-end API technology solution.
    In 2023, VA launched ServiceNow, a cloud-based customer service 
management portal used by VA partners, such as lenders, servicers, 
appraisers, and Veterans, who can interact with VA Loan Guaranty 24 
hours a day, 7 days a week by submitting support tickets to receive 
answers to general loan questions, check loan status, or other issues.
    Other systems updates include the launch of our Program Participant 
Management system. This new, automated self-service tool released last 
year allows lenders to manage profiles, submit annual renewal requests, 
and staff registration. This month, VA launched an enhancement to VA's 
Mobile App to allow Veterans to view their COE from their mobile 
phones. In the first week, VA reports that more than 35,000 downloads 
of COEs were completed by using the mobile app.
    Last, the Veterans Affairs Loan Electronic Reporting Interface or 
VALERI, our loan servicing and administration system, is undergoing 
updates to accommodate the new Partial Claim program launching in the 
upcoming months.

Competing in Tight Markets

    VA home loan demand remains strong in tight markets offering limits 
to the cost lenders charge Veterans at closing, as well as no down 
payment options and no private mortgage insurance. Veterans continue to 
use their home loan benefit amid increasing affordability strains 
experienced by buyers in today's housing market. VA purchase loan 
volume is up 4 percent year over year.
    VA notes that other factors may impact a Veteran's ability to 
become homeowners, as affordability extends beyond interest rates and 
the price of purchasing a home. The total cost of homeownership goes 
beyond the first payment and includes factors such as increases in 
property taxes, homeowners' association fees, insurance costs, and 
unexpected home repairs, or job-loss that impacts affordability.

Improving the Appraisal Process and Minimum Property Requirements

    VA appreciates past feedback from Congress and strives to ensure 
our appraisal process is efficient and timely during the lifecycle of 
the appraisal order. VA closely monitors the quality, timeliness, and 
cost of these appraisal reports to serve the interests of Veterans, 
lenders, servicers, and VA. As of February 2026, average VA appraisal 
timeliness across the country is about 7 business days. Currently, VA 
is in the process of updating its appraisal fees in many areas of the 
country to ensure VA appraisal assignments remain competitive in the 
marketplace.
    Over the years, sellers and real estate agents have developed 
misperceptions about how VA appraisals work. While some issues were 
factual many years ago, and caused delays to the home buying process, 
many do not exist today.
    A common misperception is that a VA appraisal is a home inspection 
and that any identified minimum property requirements (MPR) issues 
would derail the homebuying process. To the contrary, the VA home loan 
appraisal is an objective, expert opinion on fair market value and is 
one of the most important tools in helping VA determine whether the 
Government and taxpayers should assume the risk of guaranteeing a 
portion of a Veteran's loan. The appraisal also helps identify major 
deficiencies concerning safe, sound, and sanitary conditions.
    However, VA agrees the appraisal is not a substitute for a home 
inspection and is committed to improving the appraisal process to help 
lessen the burden on Veterans. VA is developing several actions to 
reduce and simplify the MPRs outlined in VA regulations, handbook 
policies, and procedures. For example, VA recently updated the VA 
Lender's Handbook, chapter 12, with the removal of several MPRs, to 
streamline the appraisal process, while continuing work toward 
finalizing these changes. VA is also in the process of enhancing 
digital capabilities to better track the appraisal order from 
notification to acceptance, with improved analytics and communications.

Conclusion

    VA will continue to serve the Nation's Veterans through the VA Home 
Loan program, which is centered around the unique needs of Veteran 
borrowers. Mr. Chairman, we will continue to provide Veterans with a 
safe and viable loan guaranty option, but more education is needed to 
dispel longstanding myths about the program and Veteran borrowers. 
Thank you for your continued support of our programs and for this 
opportunity to speak today.
    This concludes my testimony, and I welcome any questions that you 
or other Members of the Subcommittee may have.

                                 

                     Prepared Statement of Owen Lee

    Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member Pappas, and members of this 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today on behalf 
of the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA).\1\ My name is Owen Lee, and 
I serve as MBA's 2026 Chair-Elect and Chief Executive Officer of 
Success Mortgage Partners (SMP). I have more than 30 years of 
experience in residential real estate finance as an independent 
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    \1\ The Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA) is the national 
association representing the real estate finance industry, an industry 
that employs more than 275,000 people in virtually every community in 
the country. Headquartered in Washington, DC, the association works to 
ensure the continued strength of the Nation's residential and 
commercial real estate markets, to expand homeownership, and to extend 
access to affordable housing to all Americans. MBA promotes fair and 
ethical lending practices and fosters professional excellence among 
real estate finance employees through a wide range of educational 
programs and a variety of publications. Its membership of more than 
2,000 companies includes all elements of real estate finance: 
independent mortgage banks, mortgage brokers, commercial banks, 
thrifts, REITs, Wall Street conduits, life insurance companies, credit 
unions, and others in the mortgage lending field. For additional 
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    I founded Success Mortgage Partners, headquartered in Plymouth, 
Michigan, in 2002. The firm is licensed to originate mortgages in 43 
states and the District of Columbia. SMP closes billions of dollars in 
mortgage loans every year. Over the course of my career, the firm has 
closed thousands of VA loans, averaging between $100 million and $220 
million in closings each year since 2020. Indeed, I am proud that over 
the last 6 years SMP has helped over 3,100 veteran families secure the 
dream of homeownership.
    Our firm is honored to be among the top 100 lenders - including 
banks, credit unions, and IMBs - in VA loan volume, originating and 
closing loans for those who have served our country. I am committed to 
making sure this benefit is available for veterans and service members 
for generations to come.
    Many of those loan closings have been memorable. For me personally, 
none more so than one that took place last November that involved my 
first cousin, retired Sgt. First Class Damien Siwik. Sgt. Siwik is a 
22-year Army veteran and a recipient of the rarely received Soldier's 
Medal, one of the highest honors a soldier can receive for an act of 
valor in a non-combat situation. During his Army service, he completed 
multiple tours of duty on the DMZ in Korea, as well as tours in 
Honduras, Egypt, Iraq, and Afghanistan. He retired from the Army almost 
5 years ago.
    As a soldier, my cousin never lived in a singular posting for more 
than 3 years. This made the achievement of homeownership quite 
difficult. Sgt. Siwik was also judged 70 percent disabled after his 
discharge due to circumstances directly related to his service. So it 
was with immense pride that on January 17, 2025, I helped my first 
cousin become a homeowner for the first time at age 58.

Background

    MBA has enjoyed a long and productive relationship with the full 
Committee. We appreciated the opportunity to have fielded witnesses at 
the request of this Subcommittee five times since 2022 in support of 
needed policy changes to help strengthen the VA Home Loan Program. MBA 
appreciates the responsibility of serving as a leading voice for our 
veteran homeowners - and the lenders who work to provide affordable 
mortgage credit to them.
    MBA has also enjoyed a strong relationship with our partners at the 
VA Loan Guaranty Service. The VA Home Loan Program is (by design) among 
the most affordable and accessible mortgage programs given its unique 
``no downpayment'' feature and limited upfront closing costs. These 
benefits have driven significant program growth in recent years with 
rapidly expanding loan volume for those who qualify for this 
benefit.\2\
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    \2\ The number of active loans within VA's guaranty program has 
increased from 1.5 million loans in 2012 to nearly 4 million loans in 
2025, as noted in the related August 2025 press release here and 
January 2012 press release here. VA accounted for approximately 11 
percent of total originations, according to 2024 HMDA data (Data as of 
June 26th, 2025. Visit www.ffiec.gov/hmda for details on data 
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    In my statement today, I will emphasize the need for several 
programmatic improvements designed to support VA's core mission of 
promoting sustainable homeownership for veterans, along with ensuring 
its capacity is able to meet rising demand. MBA looks forward to 
working with this Subcommittee, the full Committee, and the VA to 
achieve these goals and help modernize the Home Loan program.

Options to Improve Program Elements and Lower Costs for Veteran 
Families

Partial Claim Implementation

    For many veterans, the most affordable home is the one where they 
currently reside. In March of this year, VA published two draft 
policies to update its loss mitigation ``waterfall'' and implement its 
partial claim program. MBA applauds the VA's use of the so-called 
``drafting table'' approach to solicit stakeholder feedback on these 
two important policy changes that will help provide more options for 
distressed VA borrowers to stay in their homes.
    Together, those two policy changes will provide VA borrowers 
experiencing financial hardships with more options to retain their 
homes under a range of interest rate environments. However, aspects of 
this draft waterfall can still be improved. For example, a borrower 
should not have to agree to a monthly payment increase before receiving 
other home retention options that do not result in a payment increase. 
It is also important for the policy to explicitly allow servicers the 
option to offer regular forbearance, so a veteran homeowner does not 
have to commit to a repayment option before his/her hardship has 
ended.\3\
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    \3\ Regular forbearance generally involves short-term agreements 
designed to pause payments to provide temporary relief for unexpected 
expenses or hardships (e.g., job loss), without commitment to a 
specific path for repayment. Under a special forbearance, the borrower 
and servicer agree to temporarily pause payments, but the borrower must 
commit ahead of time to either pay the full amount owed in one lump sum 
or use a repayment plan. This commitment can be difficult if a borrower 
does not know how long the hardship will last, such as the case of a 
borrower who lost their job and does not know when they will find new 
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    Servicers understand the importance of getting these changes 
implemented as soon as possible. They know there are borrowers who 
could be helped by partial claims today, and that is why our 
association pushed so aggressively for the legislation granting VA 
authority to administer partial claims to be enacted as soon as 
possible.\4\ MBA applauds both the majority and minority Members of the 
Committee - and your staffs - on your work with the MBA and its VA Home 
Loan Program working group members on this important issue for our 
Nation's heroes.
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    \4\ Public Law 119-31, or H.R. 1815, the VA Home Loan Program 
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    While MBA and its members want the needed policies finalized 
quickly, there are critical changes the VA should make to those draft 
policies to make them more effective.\5\ We must balance a sense of 
urgency against the importance of allowing enough time to ensure a 
smooth rollout and prevent situations where borrowers might receive 
confusing communications about the timing and content of the options 
available to them. MBA looks forward to continuing to work with the VA 
to ensure that veterans are offered the best possible options to retain 
their homes.
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    \5\ See MBA Comments: VA Draft of Partial Claim and Loss Mitigation 
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Funding Fee Offsets

    MBA has consistently advocated for preserving the use of the VA 
funding fee to pay for home loan guaranty benefits only. Consequently, 
MBA's concerns regarding the funding offsets within H.R. 6047, the 
Sharri Briley and Eric Edmundson Veterans Benefits Expansion Act of 
2025, are consistent with our association's traditional position 
regarding the VA funding fee.
    Indeed, as far back as 1982, MBA expressed concerns regarding the 
``proposed one-half percentage point `user-fee' for VA-guaranteed 
loans...[as] this fee could impose an additional financial burden upon 
veterans who wish to become homeowners at a time when record high 
interest rates already make this goal a difficult one.''
    MBA further opined at the time ``that if Congress chooses to impose 
a [funding] fee...these funds should be paid directly to the VA and 
targeted for use by the VA in the administration of the program...[as] 
MBA is most concerned that there will be no effort to match the user-
fee paid by the veterans to the service provided and the expenses 
incurred under the VA home loan guaranty program.'' \6\
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Subcommittee on Housing and Memorial Affairs, VA Home Loan Guaranty 
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    Our veterans today--just as in the early 1980's--face one of the 
most challenging housing affordability environments in decades, marked 
by elevated interest rates, limited inventory (in many markets), and 
rising home prices. Increasing mandatory fees on VA loans would 
disproportionately harm veteran households with modest incomes - many 
of whom rely on the VA program precisely because it offers lower 
upfront costs and no down payment requirement.
    Therefore, MBA fully supports the intent of the amendment in the 
nature of a substitute (ANS) to H.R. 6047 - to provide improved 
disability and dependency benefits for veterans and their survivors. 
However, the bill effectively funds those worthy benefit expansions by 
burdening other veteran homebuyers through higher mortgage fees. 
Homeownership is a foundational component of long-term financial 
stability - and it should not continue to be treated as a primary 
source of revenue to enable policy changes outside of the Home Loan 
program.
    As indicated prior to the markup of the legislation, MBA 
respectfully asks that this Subcommittee (and the full Committee) work 
to revise Section 3 to remove or substantially modify the proposed fee 
increases and extensions. MBA thanks the bipartisan leadership of the 
entire Committee for the open and collaborative dialog on this 
legislation to date - and would welcome the opportunity to continue 
working on solutions that preserve affordable access to the Home Loan 
Program.

Appropriations/VA Staffing/ Technology

    Technology modernization and adequate staffing resources are 
essential to the timely development and implementation of policies that 
directly benefit veterans. Currently, limited staffing creates 
bottlenecks that slow the rollout of important policy updates, 
guidance, and program enhancements. While VA has demonstrated a strong 
willingness to engage with stakeholders and advance meaningful reforms, 
resource constraints can delay execution and limit the agency's ability 
to respond quickly to evolving market conditions. Providing sufficient 
staffing support would help ensure that key initiatives, such as 
updates to loss mitigation tools, appraisal policies, and origination 
frameworks, are implemented efficiently and consistently.
    At the same time, investment in modernization of the VA's existing 
IT systems is equally important. As the mortgage industry continues to 
evolve, the VA must be equipped with modern systems that can support 
updated policies, streamline processes, and improve communication with 
lenders and servicers. Without adequate technology investments, even 
well-designed policy changes can face operational challenges in 
execution. Enhancing the VA's technology infrastructure would help the 
agency keep pace with industry standards, reduce manual processes, and 
support more effective program delivery.
    MBA encourages this authorizing Subcommittee - and full Committee - 
to work with appropriators to support the necessary funding for the VA 
Home Loan Program to modernize its technology platform and deploy 
sufficient staff to meet the demands of its growing portfolio and the 
veterans the agency serves.

Appraisal Standard Reforms - Minimum Property Requirements

    We also encourage the VA to implement several reforms designed to 
improve the program's competitiveness in a way that reflects today's 
housing market and practices. A notable example is the agency's 
appraisal standards. In 2023, the VA published an Advance Notice of 
Proposed Rulemaking on Minimum Property Requirements (MPR) in 
accordance with Public Law 117-308,\7\ which directed VA to consider 
updates to its appraisal and property standards framework.
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    \7\ H.R. 7735--Improving Access to the VA Home Loan Benefit Act of 
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    MBA urges the VA to publish program guidance that aligns its 
property condition framework with the housing Government-Sponsored 
Enterprises (Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac) by replacing the current MPR 
structure with the Uniform Appraisal Dataset property condition 
ratings.
    Under this approach, appraisers would evaluate properties using the 
standardized scale (C1 through C6), with clear expectations tied to 
each rating.\8\ This structure would preserve appropriate safety-and-
soundness safeguards while creating a clearer, more consistent, and 
operationally practical standard for lenders, appraisers, and 
borrowers.
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    To be more descriptive, updating the framework improves housing 
affordability and VA Home Loan Program competitiveness by reducing 
unnecessary repair conditions that can delay closings, increase costs, 
and discourage sellers from accepting VA offers. It also expands the 
pool of available appraisers by eliminating the need to navigate a 
separate, highly specialized VA property-standard framework, thereby 
increasing consistency and efficiency in the appraisal process. Both 
considerations will prove to be crucial should interest rates decrease.
    MBA looks forward to the opportunity to partner with the VA on a 
potential draft policy that updates its MPR guidance and collaborate 
with our real estate industry partners to improve VA's appraisal 
standards as market dynamics change.

VA Proposed Revision to IRRRLs

    MBA also encourages the VA to implement targeted reforms to the 
Interest Rate Reduction Refinance Loan (IRRRL) program to improve its 
effectiveness and ensure it reflects today's mortgage market and 
operational realities, particularly with respect to recoupment 
calculations, net tangible benefit standards, seasoning requirements, 
and comparison disclosure processes. As the VA continues to implement 
statutory changes under the Economic Growth, Regulatory Relief, and 
Consumer Protection Act and the Protecting Affordable Mortgages for 
Veterans Act, it is important that program requirements align with how 
lenders originate and refinance loans in practice.
    MBA urges the VA to take the next step and refine its policies to 
provide greater clarity, consistency, and operational flexibility.\9\ 
This includes aligning recoupment calculations to avoid borrower 
confusion, providing flexibility where a clear borrower benefit exists, 
and addressing requirements that rely on data lenders often cannot 
reasonably access, such as certain loan-level details needed for 
seasoning and disclosure calculations. These improvements would better 
align program requirements with real-world lending practices while 
maintaining appropriate consumer protections.
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    Modernizing these elements of the IRRRL framework will improve 
affordability and access for veterans by preserving the program's 
streamlined nature, reducing compliance uncertainty, and minimizing 
unnecessary operational burdens that can limit lender participation. 
Ensuring the program remains efficient and accessible will be 
especially important as interest rates change and more veterans look to 
refinance into more sustainable loan terms.

Additional Policy Suggestions

    While updating the MPR framework is a critical step, it should be 
part of a broader effort to modernize the VA Home Loan program. Several 
additional policies by which actions from the VA can meaningfully 
improve affordability, streamline operations, and enhance the Home Loan 
Program's competitiveness in today's market are highlighted below:

      The VA should update its allowable fees servicers can 
charge to process assumable loans. Assumable loans create a unique 
opportunity for both veteran homeowners looking to sell their homes 
with a lower interest rate and those veteran home buyers who seek to 
obtain a home with a lower monthly payment. However, fees to process an 
assumption have only been nominally increased over the last three 
decades, resulting in lenders now losing money when they process an 
assumption because of the amount of meticulous underwriting needed to 
facilitate them. MBA encourages the VA to increase the amount of these 
allowable fees to facilitate more of these assumable loans - and 
encourage both the Congress and the agency to explore ways to cover the 
higher down payment needed to purchase a home with an assumable 
loan.\10\
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    \10\ See MBA's Request for Increase of the Allowable Fee for 
Assumptions advocating for VA (and FHA) to increase their assumption 
fee up to $3,500 per assumption and set the allowable fee to be indexed 
periodically to inflation.

      The VA should update its fee documentation requirements 
to better align with how third-party services are billed and 
documented. Current expectations around borrower-level invoices do not 
reflect common industry practices, in which many vendors issue 
aggregated or bulk invoices. This creates operational challenges and 
inconsistent audit outcomes. Providing clear guidance on acceptable 
alternative documentation, like the approach adopted by FHA, reduces 
uncertainty, limits unnecessary post-closing findings and refunds, and 
also improves consistency across lenders and reviewers.\11\
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    \11\ VA Invoice and Fee Itemization Requirement

      As a general matter, the VA should update its Lenders 
Handbook to incorporate and consolidate the numerous outstanding 
circulars issued in recent years, which have created a fragmented and 
sometimes inconsistent policy framework. Relying on standalone 
circulars makes it difficult for lenders and servicers to identify 
current requirements, increasing the risk of misinterpretation, 
compliance challenges, and inconsistent loan reviews. A comprehensive 
update would improve clarity, promote uniform application of VA 
policies, and reduce operational uncertainty across the industry. 
Ultimately, a modernized and fully integrated Handbook would enhance 
program efficiency, strengthen oversight, and better support lenders 
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serving veteran borrowers.

Conclusion

    Once again, MBA appreciates this opportunity to comment on the many 
complex components of the important VA Home Loan Program benefit 
offered to our Nation's heroes. Our association and its members look 
forward to working with this Subcommittee, the full Committee, the VA, 
and the full administration to serve as a resource while these 
important discussions continue.
    I look forward to answering any questions you may have.

                                 

                  Prepared Statement of Kurt Thompson

Introduction

    Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member Pappas, and distinguished 
Members of the Subcommittee, my name is Kurt Thompson. I am the Broker/
Owner of RE/MAX Liberty in Westminster, Massachusetts, where I have 
been helping buyers and sellers for over 29 years. I am a Certified 
Residential Specialist, a past President of the Massachusetts 
Association of REALTORS, and the 2012 Massachusetts REALTOR of the 
Year. I am also a veteran. I served my country for 8 years, in the Army 
Reserve and later with the 157th Air Refueling Wing at Pease Air 
National Guard Base in New Hampshire. I am proud of that service, and I 
am proud to say that the VA home loan program helped me achieve 
homeownership. That experience gave me a personal appreciation for what 
this benefit means, and it is part of why I work hard to make sure my 
veteran clients know about the program and can access it.
    Today I am testifying on behalf of more than 1.4 million members of 
the National Association of REALTORS (NAR), representing every zip 
code in the United States, who thank you for the opportunity to present 
NAR's views on improving and modernizing the VA Home Loan Guaranty 
program. NAR is America's largest trade association, and our members 
engage in all aspects of the residential and commercial real estate 
industries, with agents and brokers in every congressional district in 
the country.
    NAR members work with veteran and active-duty homebuyers in every 
corner of this country, and we go above and beyond to serve them well. 
For example, NAR offers the Military Relocation Professional 
certification, which trains REALTORS to understand the unique needs of 
current and former servicemembers and their families, guide them 
through the relocation process, help them make informed decisions about 
whether to rent or purchase a home, and explain the basics of VA 
financing. For a veteran coming home after years of deployment or 
active service, the housing market they return to can look completely 
different from the one they left. Having a knowledgeable REALTOR in 
their corner can make the difference between getting into a home and 
losing the property. Someone who understands the VA loan program, knows 
how to structure an offer competitively, and can connect them with a 
lender who knows the program inside and out--that is what veteran 
buyers need. That is the standard of service NAR members strive to 
provide, and it is why we care so deeply about making sure the VA 
program itself works as well as it should.
    Part of my standard practice when working with any buyer is to ask 
whether they have VA eligibility, because if they do, that benefit is 
almost always their best financing option. The no-down-payment feature 
alone can be the difference between homeownership and continued renting 
for a veteran who is living paycheck to paycheck. When it works well, 
the VA loan program does not just put a veteran in a home, it helps 
them stabilize their housing costs and build multigenerational wealth. 
Helping a veteran reach that milestone is one of the most meaningful 
things I do in this job.
    The VA home loan program has the potential to be even stronger than 
it is today, and this Subcommittee has the opportunity to make that 
happen. That is what I am here to discuss.

VA Home Loan Reform Act (H.R. 1815)

    Before turning to opportunities for improving veteran access to 
sustainable homeownership, NAR wants to express sincere gratitude to 
this Subcommittee for its leadership on one of the most important 
veterans housing reforms in recent memory: the passage of the VA Home 
Loan Reform Act (H.R. 1815).
    For years, veterans using VA-guaranteed home loans were the only 
homebuyers in America explicitly prohibited from directly compensating 
their real estate agent. As market practices shifted following the NAR 
settlement and sellers have become less willing to cover buyer agent 
fees, this put veterans in an increasingly difficult position: use 
their hard-earned VA benefit and risk going without professional 
representation or forgo the benefit altogether to level the playing 
field with other buyers.
    NAR worked with both this Subcommittee and the Department of 
Veterans Affairs to address this. The VA took the first step by 
temporarily suspending the prohibition in 2024, providing immediate 
relief. But veterans needed a permanent solution, and H.R. 1815 
delivered that. Passed unanimously and signed into law, the Act 
requires the VA to develop a lasting strategy to ensure veterans are 
not disadvantaged when seeking real estate representation. It also 
establishes a new partial claims program to help veterans who are 
struggling to keep up with their mortgage payments, ensuring the 
program supports veterans long after the closing table. NAR has been 
engaged with VA on implementation and looks forward to continuing that 
work as the agency develops its permanent solution. We thank this 
Subcommittee for its leadership in getting H.R. 1815 across the finish 
line.

The Broader Context: America's Housing Affordability Crisis

    To understand the value of the VA program, it helps to first look 
at the housing market veterans are entering. Even the strongest loan 
benefit can only do so much when available homes are in such short 
supply.
    America faces a shortage of approximately 4.7 million homes. There 
were more homes available in 1995 than there are today, despite 75 
million more Americans. Fourteen years of severe underbuilding 
following the Great Recession left a massive shortfall that we're still 
nowhere close to closing. The scarcity of affordable home inventory 
significantly blocks homeownership, and this issue disproportionately 
impacts first-time homebuyers. Many of my first-time homebuyers have 
effectively paused their home search due to affordability issues. 
First-time buyers now represent just 21 percent of all purchases, down 
from a historical norm of around 40 percent. The typical first-time 
buyer today is 40 years old, waiting more than a decade longer than 
their parents did to buy a home. A 10-year delay in buying means losing 
more than $150,000 in potential equity growth.
    For veterans, this hits especially hard. The VA loan program's 
greatest strength, enabling veterans to purchase homes with no down 
payment, matters most when there are affordable homes to buy. When 
inventory is scarce and prices are elevated, even the best financing 
can only do so much.
    Solving this requires action on multiple fronts. In the short term, 
we need to unlock existing inventory. One of the biggest barriers is 
outdated Federal tax policy. The capital gains exclusion for home sales 
has not been updated in 27 years, and homeowners who have seen 
significant appreciation are effectively penalized for selling, which 
keeps homes off the market. NAR supports updating this exclusion 
through legislation like the More Homes on the Market Act (H.R. 1340) 
as one meaningful step to free up inventory. Improving VA loan 
assumability, which I will address shortly, is another tool that could 
help veteran buyers access existing inventory at mortgage rates lower 
than what is currently available.
    In the longer term, we need to build more homes, particularly the 
smaller, more affordable starter homes that first-time buyers need. In 
my market in Massachusetts, most entry-level buyers are looking in the 
$300,000 to $500,000 range. Getting more homes built at that price 
point would make a real difference for veterans and first-time buyers 
alike, and there is legislation before Congress right now that would 
help do exactly that.
    The Senate recently passed the 21st Century Road to Housing Act 
(H.R. 6644), and NAR encourages the House to consider the bill and work 
toward its timely passage. The bill confronts barriers to housing at 
all levels of government--giving communities new tools and resources to 
plan and build for growth, streamlining Federal processes that delay 
construction, modernizing Federal housing programs to meet the needs of 
today, and improving financing options for manufactured and rural 
housing. Critically for this hearing, it also takes steps to improve 
access to credit for homebuyers and ensures veterans can take full 
advantage of their VA home loan benefits.
    Veterans deserve a housing market with enough supply to make 
homeownership genuinely attainable, and this bill is an important step 
toward that goal. NAR remains deeply engaged on housing supply and 
affordability issues across Congress and will continue working with 
lawmakers to advance new ideas and solutions that make homeownership 
more attainable for all Americans, including those who have served our 
country.
    The improvements to the VA program I will outline today are 
meaningful and necessary. Still, the program can only reach its full 
potential when paired with a broader effort to expand affordable 
housing opportunities for veterans. Strengthening the benefit and 
increasing supply are complementary goals, and both are essential.

Appraisals and Minimum Property Requirements: Where Veterans Lose Deals

    When it comes to the VA program itself, I want to spend most of my 
time on appraisals, because this is where I see the problem most 
clearly in my day-to-day work.
    The biggest competitive challenge I see for VA buyers is closing 
costs leading to appraisal risk. Many of my veteran buyers have limited 
cash on hand, and other than the VA funding fee, closing costs cannot 
be rolled into a VA loan. This means I often need to negotiate seller 
concessions to reduce their out-of-pocket expenses at closing. In hot 
real estate markets like my own, many sellers are not willing to simply 
reduce their asking price to cover those costs. They want to net what 
they were expecting. So, to get the seller their number and secure the 
concession my client needs, the offer price has to go above asking. The 
appraisal then has to come in at that higher number, which may be 
higher than market value. If it does not, the home seller has to either 
take less than they wanted or walk away. When that seller has another 
offer on the table without that complication, they have to ask 
themselves whether it is worth the risk. That is where veterans lose 
properties.
    That said, I have seen sellers accept VA offers over cash offers at 
the same price because they wanted to do right by a veteran. Those 
moments are genuinely moving, and they are a reminder of how much this 
country values the people who serve it. But I cannot count on that 
happening in every transaction.
    Another issue that can arise is that VA appraisers are required to 
flag property conditions that other loan programs would simply pass 
over. When that happens, the seller may be asked to make repairs before 
the loan can close, adding time and cost to the transaction and giving 
sellers yet another reason to favor a conventional offer. In some 
cases, the only path forward is to order a second appraisal, which 
means more time and more money out of pocket for a buyer who often does 
not have a lot of either. NAR recommends that Congress direct the VA to 
bring its Minimum Property Requirements in line with the standards used 
by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Greater alignment would reduce those 
misconceptions and make VA-financed offers more competitive. It would 
also expand the pool of appraisers willing to work within the program 
and reduce friction throughout the transaction, all while maintaining 
the protections that veterans using the program deserve.
    Appraisal wait times are also a problem, and they are made worse by 
a shortage of VA appraisers, particularly in rural markets. In 
competitive markets, long delays can kill deals. Buyers lose rate 
locks, sellers get frustrated and move on, and the veteran is back to 
square one. NAR recommends that this Subcommittee examine how the 
appraisal process can be modernized to reduce wait times without 
sacrificing the quality and independence that protect both the borrower 
and the program, including 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act's call to 
widen the pool of appraisers allowed to perform appraisals for the VA. 
Ensuring that appraisers are compensated appropriately--for instance, 
indexing fees with inflation, allowing for surge fees, and expanding 
mileage reimbursement--could also grow the pool of appraisers in high-
demand and rural areas. Any changes should be deliberate and evidence-
based, but there is real opportunity here to do better for veterans. 
More broadly, NAR encourages Congress to ensure that VA has the 
staffing, technology, and resources necessary to administer the home 
loan program effectively and serve veterans in a timely manner.

Loan Assumptions: A Benefit That Has Yet to Deliver on Its Promise

    VA loans are assumable, which in today's high interest rate 
environment sounds like an incredible feature. A buyer who takes on a 
seller's 2.5 or 3 percent mortgage instead of taking out a new loan at 
today's rates would save significantly on their monthly payment. I have 
had consumers ask me about this. Some of my veteran clients know their 
loan is assumable and want to know if it is a marketing advantage when 
they sell.
    My honest answer is that I cannot think of a single transaction in 
my career where an assumption has actually closed. The process takes 
too long, sometimes 90 days or more, and most buyers cannot bridge the 
gap between the existing loan balance and the purchase price without a 
substantial cash down payment. For buyers who have that kind of money, 
a conventional loan is often just as easy. The assumption benefit 
exists on paper, but in practice it rarely pencils out.
    I think there is real potential here that is going untapped, and 
NAR would welcome the Subcommittee's interest in finding ways to make 
assumptions more workable. Streamlining the process and shortening 
timelines would be a start. Part of the reason assumptions rarely get 
done is that lenders are not adequately compensated for facilitating 
them, so they have little incentive to prioritize the process. NAR 
recommends that the VA reevaluate its caps on lender compensation for 
facilitating mortgage assumptions. There are also ideas worth exploring 
around financing solutions that could help buyers close the equity gap, 
so that assumptions are not limited to the rare buyer who can cover the 
difference in cash. Congress should also address the fact that veterans 
currently lose their VA entitlement when their loan is assumed by a 
non-veteran, which can leave them without a benefit they earned through 
their service.

Conclusion

    The VA Home Loan Guaranty program has been one of the most 
important benefits our Nation offers to those who serve for over 80 
years, and I am proud to have benefited from it personally. When it 
works well, it is a powerful path to homeownership and the kind of 
wealth-building that can last generations. I have seen that in my own 
life, and I have seen it in the lives of the veterans I have had the 
privilege of working with over nearly three decades in this business. 
This program deserves to be the best it can be, and NAR stands ready to 
work with this Subcommittee and the Department of Veterans Affairs to 
make that happen.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify. I welcome your questions.

                                 

                    Prepared Statement of Alys Cohen

    Chairman Van Orden, Ranking Member Pappas, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the 
low-income clients of the National Consumer Law Center (NCLC) \1\ 
regarding the VA Home Loan Guaranty Program.
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    \1\ Since 1969, the nonprofit National Consumer Law Center (NCLC) 
has worked for consumer justice and economic security for low-income 
and other disadvantaged people in the U.S. through its expertise in 
policy analysis and advocacy, publications, litigation, expert witness 
services, and training.
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    We support the goal of promoting affordability for Veteran 
homeowners, and we recognize the key role the VA Home Loan Program 
plays in providing housing stability for the Veterans who have earned 
their home loan benefit through service and sacrifice. Throughout the 
country, Veterans and their families are struggling to keep up with 
increasing housing costs both for owning or renting a home.
    The most important step the VA can take to promote affordability 
for Veterans is to help them avoid unnecessary and devastating home 
loss when they face financial hardships, including those hardships 
related to their service. To accomplish this, the Department of 
Veterans Affairs (VA) should ensure that systems are in place to help 
Veterans retain their homes when feasible. These ``home retention'' 
programs keep kids in school, stabilize neighborhoods, prevent home 
equity loss, and allow Veterans to avoid an unforgiving rental market 
that in many parts of the country does not provide affordable 
alternatives to people who lose their homes. Research shows that 
helping borrowers facing financial hardship cure their delinquent 
payments and reduce monthly payments when necessary helps avoid 
defaulting again and saves the taxpayers tens of thousands of dollars 
in foreclosure-related claims.\2\
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    \2\ See Home Retention Programs Save the GSEs and FHA Billions by 
Avoiding the High Cost of Preventable Dispositions (Housing Policy 
Council July 2025).
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    There is significant work for the VA in this area because the 
mortgage relief options available for Veteran borrowers remain less 
favorable than the options available to other borrowers with federally 
backed mortgages. As a result, a higher share of VA seriously 
delinquent loans are moving to active foreclosure compared to Fannie 
Mae and Freddie Mac (GSE) and Federal Housing Administration (FHA) 
loans. As of the end of 2025, about 35 percent of seriously delinquent 
VA loans were in active foreclosure, compared to 30 percent for the 
GSEs and 25 percent for FHA.\3\
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    \3\ See ICE Mortgage Monitor (Dec. 2025) at 6.
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    It is a bedrock principle of Federal housing policy that borrowers 
who are facing financial hardship should have access to workout options 
to bring their loans current and avoid foreclosure where possible. Home 
retention policies provide stability for homeowners by giving them a 
path to recovery after financial hardships. These policies do not 
guarantee that all borrowers who fall behind can avoid foreclosure, but 
they help prevent avoidable losses. They also help Federal investors, 
like the VA, avoid losses from unnecessary foreclosures, which supports 
the health of the program and reduces the cost to taxpayers. According 
to a recent analysis, the average home disposition ``results in a loss 
to the guarantor of about $72,000,'' and well-designed loss mitigation 
options significantly reduce those losses.\4\
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    \4\ See Home Retention Programs Save the GSEs and FHA Billions by 
Avoiding the High Cost of Preventable Dispositions (Housing Policy 
Council July 2025).
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    Research on loan modification performance provides compelling 
evidence that catching up arrearages while keeping payments the same 
for borrowers who faced temporary hardship, and providing targeted 
payment relief for borrowers whose hardships were permanent, are the 
most cost-effective means for providing assistance that reduces 
redefault rates. Unsurprisingly, options that increase the monthly 
payment make loss mitigation less effective for both groups and lead to 
significantly more redefaults and foreclosures.\5\
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    \5\ See Quantifying the Savings from FHA's Home Retention Programs 
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    Following the below discussion of needed changes to VA's home 
retention program, we address the fact that VA has limited ability to 
affect the broader supply and affordability issues in the national 
housing market. VA borrowers operate within the broader national 
housing landscape and changes to the VA program would have limited 
impact. Moreover, VA's origination rules have yielded better loan 
performance than FHA's and changes should be considered with that in 
mind and with an eye toward continued fair lending compliance.

        1. The new VA mortgage relief options should prioritize 
        affordability.

    The situation for delinquent VA borrowers should improve due to the 
passage of the VA Home Loan Program Reform Act (H.R. 1815), and we 
thank members of this Committee for your leadership on that 
legislation. However, the new ``Partial Claim'' program authorized in 
the legislation has not been implemented yet and VA's draft handbook 
proposals do not fulfill the promise of the legislation, especially 
with respect to affordability.
    According to the VA draft waterfall plan, after mortgage servicers 
consider repayment plans (which allow for relatively quick repayment of 
the delinquent amounts in addition to making the regular monthly 
payments), they must then move to an evaluation of permanent loan 
modification options.\6\ It is reasonable for VA to consider loan 
modifications early in the process because, in some situations, 
modifications may provide payment relief to borrowers while also 
avoiding the use of Partial Claim funds, which are limited under the 
statute.
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    \6\ See Draft VA Manual M26-4 Chapter 5 Loss Mitigation at Steps 4-
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    Yet, in the list of permanent modification options, before a 
borrower can access a payment-stabilizing Partial Claim VA's proposal 
requires a homeowner to accept up to a 15 percent increase in their 
monthly payment as part of a 30-year loan modification, despite the 
fact that they are very likely delinquent because they have experienced 
a financial hardship.\7\ Of the roughly 90,000 VA borrowers who are 
seriously delinquent on their loan today, we estimate that over 30,000 
will face a payment increase if the program proceeds as drafted.\8\ VA 
has other options that create more affordable payments - a 40-year 
modification and the payment-stabilizing Partial Claim - but these 
options are not offered until later in the draft waterfall. As a 
consequence, the draft proposal makes less-than-effective use of the 
Partial Claim, which keeps monthly payments at the pre-hardship level 
by placing the past due amount at the end of the loan term so the 
borrower can resume their regular monthly payments.
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    \7\ See id. at Step 6. Before the 30-year Modification, the 
servicer will consider the Traditional Modification, and the borrower 
will only receive it if it reduces the payment and they are otherwise 
eligible. If it increases the payment, the servicer will move to the 
30-year modification, which, unlike the Traditional Modification, is 
automatically offered as long as it doesn't increase the borrower's 
monthly payment by more than 15 percent. We proposed eliminating the 
Traditional Modification in our comments because it introduces 
complexity and is not necessary.
    \8\ Estimates based on Ginnie Mae Loan Performance Data provided by 
Recursion and ICE McDash, and analyzed by Center for Responsible 
Lending. Note that such analysis is based on calculations from 
privately available data because VA does not publish loan performance 
data as FHA does.
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    We sincerely appreciate the fact that VA placed its proposed 
waterfall on the drafting table for comment by stakeholders. We are 
hopeful that VA will make changes as a result of the consistent 
feedback it received to change the order of its waterfall to prioritize 
affordability by offering solutions that increase the borrower's 
monthly payment only as a last resort. However, if the waterfall 
proceeds without change, it would add a significant financial burden on 
Veteran borrowers who have already experienced financial hardships and 
are behind on their mortgage as a result. For example, the 30,000 
seriously delinquent VA borrowers who would get a payment-increasing 
30-year modification under VA's proposed program would see their 
monthly payment rise by an average of $150 per month (9 percent), which 
is $1,800 per year.\9\ Many if not most of these borrowers who are 
trying to regain their financial footing are unlikely to find the 
higher payment affordable.
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    The waterfall, if unchanged, also would unnecessarily raise costs 
for the taxpayer because payment-increasing modifications are much more 
likely to lead to foreclosure than payment-stabilizing or payment-
decreasing modifications. The VA's proposed ordering of hardship 
assistance solutions, while understandably seeking to be sensitive to 
the effect of term extensions and total amounts due, is out of step 
with Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and FHA, which only consider payment 
increases as a last resort, if at all. To truly promote affordability, 
VA should ensure that Veteran borrowers have options that promote 
affordability first, which will save money for the VA Loan Guaranty 
Fund, Veteran borrowers, and mortgage servicers. In sum, a borrower's 
monthly payment is the most important aspect of maintaining an 
affordable mortgage, so loss mitigation should be designed to reduce or 
keep payments level when possible.
    Thus, VA should direct servicers to implement modifications instead 
of Partial Claims early in the evaluation process or ``waterfall'' only 
where the modification results in an equal or lower payment. If the 30-
year modification does not achieve this result, VA should direct the 
servicer to try the 40-year modification. If even this modification 
does not result in a level payment, then the servicer should evaluate 
the borrower for a Partial Claim, which restores the borrower's pre--
hardship payment by moving the arrears to the end of the loan without 
modifying its terms. Based on the research described above, a Partial 
Claim is significantly more likely to be successful than the payment-
increase modification. Another reason to avoid modifications that 
result in a payment increase is the irreversibility of that action-once 
the loan's payment is increased through a payment-increase 
modification, a subsequent Partial Claim will only maintain that higher 
payment and cannot bring the homeowner back to their original payment.

        2. VA should provide a current alternative to foreclosure for 
        those who can make payments and are waiting for the new home 
        retention options.

    One change is urgently needed. We urge the VA to adopt measures to 
hold off foreclosures until the Partial Claim program becomes widely 
available. We have suggested full pay forbearance as one reasonable 
means of relief. Under a full pay forbearance plan, the servicer would 
agree to start accepting monthly payments again for Veterans who have 
financially recovered and can resume making their monthly payments. The 
servicer would then agree to hold off on foreclosure. This would work 
well for Veterans who would qualify for a Partial Claim once the 
program is released. It would prevent the past due amounts from 
growing, get the borrower back in the habit of making payments, and 
reduce the amount of Partial Claim VA would ultimately have to pay. In 
addition, servicers would no longer be required to fund advances of 
delinquent principal and interest to Ginnie Mae or tax and insurance 
payments. Both the VA Loan Guaranty Fund and mortgage servicers would 
be spared the cost of claims related to unnecessary losses.

        3. VA should make additional changes to the loss mitigation 
        program.

                a. Make standard forbearance available.

    Further, we suggest that VA follow industry standards (including 
for most other government-backed mortgage programs such as the GSEs and 
FHA) and offer borrowers the opportunity to request forbearance, which 
provides a temporary pause on payments when there is a hardship. 
Borrowers should be specifically permitted to request, during each 
default, a forbearance of monthly payments up to a maximum of 12 months 
of delinquency. VA's draft waterfall, which does not allow for 
servicers to offer forbearance before evaluating for home disposition 
options, does not take into account that hardships may take time to 
resolve.\10\ Importantly, borrowers are encouraged to call their 
servicers early, but if they do so when they lose their job, they are 
going to be directed to home disposition options, even though the 
hardship may be temporary and the person may be eligible for loss 
mitigation in a few months, avoiding a loss to the VA program as well.
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    Research shows that reperformance rates are much better when 
borrowers contact their servicer early and stay in constant 
communication with their servicer rather than delaying contact and 
trying to deal with it themselves financially.\11\ Without this 
addition of forbearance, VA borrowers will have substantially worse 
loss mitigation options compared to GSE and FHA borrowers.
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    \11\ See Alexei Alexandrov, Laurie Goodman & Ted Tozer, Urban 
Institute, Normalizing Forbearance (July 2022).

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                plans when the Partial Claim becomes due.

    When the Partial Claim becomes due at the end of the borrower's 
loan, a balloon payment will be triggered. The VA should include in its 
handbook material addressing its expectations ``when the guaranteed 
loan matures'' and a balloon payment is required for borrowers who pay 
until maturity.\12\ We recommend that VA add an expectation that 
servicers establish a reasonable payment plan for borrowers unable to 
repay the Partial Claim balloon payment in a lump sum on loan maturity. 
It would be tragic for borrowers to lose their homes due to an 
inability to repay the Partial Claim balloon payment all at once, when 
they faithfully repaid their VA-guaranteed mortgage for decades.
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        4. Finalize the positive aspects of the current proposal.

    We appreciate that VA has taken steps to implement the Partial 
Claim program, and its use of the drafting table and its willingness to 
accept comments. VA's proposal included a number of positive 
developments that should be included in the final handbook language, 
including streamlining loss mitigation and not charging interest on the 
Partial Claim. We urge VA to also take additional steps to make their 
Partial Claim and loan modification programs more affordable for 
Veterans and effective for the VA Loan Guaranty Fund.

        5. While some changes to VA lending programs can be made, they 
        should preserve VA loan performance and are unlikely to serve 
        as a major cure for the affordability crisis.

    Aside from adjustments to its home retention program, the other 
steps VA could take, including those associated with origination costs, 
will only help around the edges at best or would seek to address issues 
that are not within VA's control. The problems of housing supply and 
overall market affordability are problems for all homebuyers and 
mortgage borrowers. For example, the particular issue of institutional 
investors using their significant financial advantages to purchase 
single family homes harms all families, including Veterans, who rely on 
mortgages and cannot compete with investor resources. The current 
Administration has recognized that this is a market-wide problem, and 
Veterans share the housing market with other borrowers. Addressing 
these dynamics is outside of VA's control and requires a whole-market 
set of solutions.
    With respect to VA's appraisal and Minimum Property Standards, 
these perform important functions of ensuring the soundness of the 
homes Veterans purchase and catching faulty appraisals. We participated 
in VA's public comment process in 2024 discussing how to improve the 
appraisal and minimum property standards.\13\ We have urged VA, in any 
revision to its appraisal standards, to implement controls against 
appraiser bias consistent with fair lending laws.
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    \13\ See Comments to the VA Regarding Loan Guaranty: Minimum 
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    Regarding the VA loan origination process, any steps the agency 
takes to alter its underwriting should take into account that VA loans 
perform very well, and the agency should avoid changes that could 
undermine this loan performance or would unnecessarily narrow access to 
the program. In particular, it is worth noting that VA's unique 
underwriting guidelines, with a focus on the borrower's residual 
income, have led to an impressive track record of performance. Because 
the agency has enjoyed significant success with its underwriting 
process, and better loan performance than FHA,\14\ the agency should be 
cautious of changes to its underwriting process. Moreover, any 
reductions in closing costs will be limited and cannot have a 
significant impact on market-wide affordability issues.
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    \14\ See Ginnie Mae, Report on VA Liquidity at 12-13 (Nov. 10, 
2022); Congressional Budget Office, The Role of the Department of 
Veterans Affairs in the Single-Family Mortgage Market (Sept. 2021); 
Laurie Goodman, Ellen Seidman & Jun Zhu, Urban Institute, VA Loans 
Outperform FHA Loans. Why? And What Can We Learn? (July 2014).

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        6. VA should do a small-dollar mortgage pilot.

    One constructive step the VA should explore is a small-dollar 
mortgage loan pilot in coordination with FHA. There is not sufficient 
mortgage financing available for borrowers who are seeking to buy 
relatively less expensive homes. There is a particular dearth of 
lending for mortgages with balances under $150,000. This lack of 
lending limits the ability of people with modest incomes to buy modest-
priced houses and instead pushes them into a challenging rental market.
    Some have blamed the Federal Truth in Lending Act (TILA) rules that 
were developed in the aftermath of the financial crisis, and that test 
for high-cost mortgages and limit how loan originators are paid, as 
causes for the lack of small dollar mortgage lending. As indicated in 
our issue brief, Myths and Facts About Ways to Increase Small-Dollar 
Mortgage Lending,\15\ that is simply not the case. Because the 
thresholds for rules adjust depending on the size of the loan, they are 
sufficiently flexible to accommodate small mortgages and the CFPB 
already has the ability to do an evidence-based adjustment as needed.
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    \15\ See Myths and Facts About Ways to Increase Small Dollar 
Mortgage Lending, National Consumer Law Center (Aug. 2024).
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    However, we do recognize that economic forces are limiting the 
availability of small dollar credit, and this directly impacts 
affordability. In order to better understand the state of this market 
and explore solutions, VA, along with FHA, should engage in a pilot 
program to better understand how to improve the situation. This pilot 
could include exploring different approaches to compensating loan 
originators, including salaries and minimum payments (even where a loan 
may be small enough to otherwise yield a smaller payment).

        7. Conclusion

    We appreciate VA's efforts to date to stand up the Partial Claim 
program, and urge VA leadership to focus squarely on the task before 
them - rolling out an affordable Partial Claim and loss mitigation 
waterfall. The agency should take steps to improve home retention 
programs in a manner that protects the VA Loan Guaranty Fund, 
eliminates unnecessary burdens on loan servicers, and ultimately 
stabilizes homeownership for Veterans who earned the home loan benefit 
through service and sacrifice.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify. We look forward to 
working with you and the VA to shape systems that will improve 
affordability for Veteran borrowers.

                       Statements for the Record

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     Prepared Statement of National Association of Mortgage Brokers

    NAMB and the mortgage professionals we represent are proud to serve 
America's veterans, and we fully support the Committee's commitment to 
expanding benefits for disabled veterans and Gold Star families. We 
submit this statement to offer a constructive path forward that 
achieves the goals of H.R. 6047 without imposing new financial burdens 
on the very veterans this legislation seeks to honor.
    As currently drafted, H.R. 6047 funds expanded benefits through VA 
loan funding fees--a mechanism that would affect an estimated 1.88 
million disabled veterans with ratings below 70 percent, representing a 
potential financial impact of approximately $24.3 billion. NAMB urges 
the Committee to consider an alternative approach that delivers equal 
or greater benefit at no new Federal cost.
    Specifically, NAMB recommends amending H.R. 6047 to allow eligible 
surviving spouses to continue receiving the deceased veteran's 100 
percent service-connected disability compensation rate in lieu of the 
reduced Dependency and Indemnity Compensation (DIC) structure. Because 
this compensation has already been authorized and appropriated by 
Congress prior to the veteran's death, this solution would meaningfully 
increase support for surviving families--effectively doubling the 
proposed $10,000 annual increase--while preserving VA Home Loan 
benefits and incurring no net increase in Federal expenditure. NAMB 
welcomes the opportunity to work with the Committee to refine this 
approach and stands ready to provide additional data in support of this 
recommendation.

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