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                        PUTTING FAMILIES FIRST:
                       STRENGTHENING CHAMPVA FOR
                        SURVIVORS AND DEPENDENTS
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                         SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH

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                     COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                      WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 10, 2025

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                     COMMITTEE ON VETERANS' AFFAIRS

                     MIKE BOST, Illinois, Chairman

AUMUA AMATA COLEMAN RADEWAGEN,       MARK TAKANO, California, Ranking 
    American Samoa, Vice-Chairwoman      Member
JACK BERGMAN, Michigan               JULIA BROWNLEY, California
NANCY MACE, South Carolina           CHRIS PAPPAS, New Hampshire
MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa       SHEILA CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK, 
GREGORY F. MURPHY, North Carolina        Florida
DERRICK VAN ORDEN, Wisconsin         MORGAN MCGARVEY, Kentucky
MORGAN LUTTRELL, Texas               DELIA RAMIREZ, Illinois
JUAN CISCOMANI, Arizona              NIKKI BUDZINSKI, Illinois
KEITH SELF, Texas                    TIMOTHY M. KENNEDY, New York
JEN KIGGANS, Virginia                MAXINE DEXTER, Oregon
ABE HAMADEH, Arizona                 HERB CONAWAY, New Jersey
KIMBERLYN KING-HINDS, Northern       KELLY MORRISON, Minnesota
    Mariana Islands
TOM BARRETT, Michigan

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                  Matt Reel, Democratic Staff Director

                         SUBCOMMITTEE ON HEALTH

               MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, Iowa, Chairwoman

JACK BERGMAN, Michigan               JULIA BROWNLEY, California, 
GREGORY F. MURPHY, North Carolina        Ranking Member
DERRICK VAN ORDEN, Wisconsin         SHEILA CHERFILUS-MCCORMICK, 
JEN KIGGANS, Virginia                    Florida
ABE HAMADEH, Arizona                 MAXINE DEXTER, Oregon
KIMBERLYN KING-HINDS, Northern       HERB CONAWAY, New Jersey
    Mariana Islands                  KELLY MORRISON, Minnesota

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                           OPENING STATEMENTS

The Honorable Mariannette Miller-Meeks, Chairwoman...............     1
The Honorable Julia Brownley, Ranking Member.....................     3

                               WITNESSES
                                Panel I

Dr. Maria Llorente, MD, Acting Assistant Under Secretary for 
  Health, Office of Integrated Veteran Care, U.S. Department of 
  Veterans Affairs...............................................     5

        Accompanied by:

    Mr. David Fennell, Director, Veteran and Family Member 
        Programs, Integrated External Networks, Office of 
        Integrated Veteran Care, U.S. Department of Veterans 
        Affairs

Mrs. Caira Benson, Veteran Support & Strategic Initiatives 
  Specialist, Code of Support Foundation.........................     6

Mr. James Zenner, National Policy Director, National Association 
  of County Veteran Service Officers.............................     8

                                APPENDIX
                    Prepared Statements Of Witnesses

Dr. Maria Llorente, MD Prepared Statement........................    25
Mrs. Caira Benson Prepared Statement.............................    26
Mr. James Zenner Prepared Statement..............................    28

                       Statements For The Record

Questions for the Record Submitted by The Honorable Marianette 
  Miller-Meeks, U.S. House of Representatives, (IA-01)...........    31
Response to Questions for the Record Submitted by Caira Benson...    36
Response to Questions for the Record Submitted by U.S. Department 
  of Veterans Affairs............................................    39
Response to Questions for the Record Submitted by National 
  Association of County Veterans Service Officers................    49
Paralyzed Veterans of America Prepared Statement.................    56

 
                        PUTTING FAMILIES FIRST:
                       STRENGTHENING CHAMPVA FOR
                        SURVIVORS AND DEPENDENTS

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                      WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 10, 2025

                    Subcommittee on Health,
                    Committee on Veterans' Affairs,
                             U.S. House of Representatives,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 3:38 p.m., in 
room 360, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Mariannette 
Miller-Meek [chairwoman of the subcommittee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Miller-Meek, King-Hinds, Kiggans, 
Brownley, Cherfilus-McCormick, Dexter, and Conaway.

   OPENING STATEMENT OF MARIANNETTE MILLER-MEEKS, CHAIRWOMAN

    Ms. Miller-Meeks. The Subcommittee on Health will now come 
to order. The chair may declare recess at any point. That was 
when we were anticipating votes.
    I would like to welcome all the members and the witnesses 
to today's hearing. Many here today have likely heard that the 
U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has taken significant 
steps to improve the Civilian Health and Medical Program of the 
Department of Veterans Affairs, CHAMPVA. CHAMPVA is a program 
to provide earned benefits for veterans' families whenever the 
veteran has qualifying service-connected disabilities or death. 
A veteran spouse or child can access a range of covered health 
services through CHAMPVA, inpatient and outpatient care, 
prescription drugs, mental health services, skilled nursing 
care, and others.
    CHAMPVA is a way that we honor our commitment to serving 
the veterans and their families who are injured in the line of 
duty. Sometimes circumstances require that family members 
forego a full-time job with health insurance benefits so they 
can care for their veteran full time instead. These caregivers 
consider CHAMPVA a lifeline.
    Decades ago, Congress created CHAMPVA to close a gap left 
by TRICARE. CHAMPVA, when it works, is a huge relief for 
veterans and their families. Affordability is on everyone's 
mind and that is especially true for veteran families with 
serious medical needs. Fortunately, the VA has recently taken 
steps to ensure CHAMPVA works. I am pleased that the Trump 
administration is pulling out all the stops to bring down the 
cost of living by putting families first.
    Just before Thanksgiving, Secretary Collins announced the 
elimination of CHAMPVA application backlog. That is over 60,000 
more families who can now access caregiver healthcare benefits 
at the VA.
    The subcommittee appreciates the VA's work to modernize 
CHAMPVA. Online applications and claims should have been 
available a long time ago, but if we continue to hold the VA 
accountable, veterans and their families will see greater 
results.
    As a case in point, I am particularly pleased that the VA 
is in the process of developing a CHAMPVA Provider Directory. 
This is after an abundance of feedback from Members of Congress 
to the VA about the difficulty that beneficiaries have even 
finding someone who will accept CHAMPVA. The committee has been 
diligent in exploring solutions for a provider directory. I 
want to thank my friend and colleague, Oversight Committee 
Chairwoman Jen Kiggins for her leadership on this issue as she 
recently wrote a letter and introduced legislation to create 
this system for veterans and their families. Needless to say, 
we will continue to exercise oversight to ensure that the 
CHAMPVA Directory is fully implemented.
    Modernization like this and CHAMPVA's ongoing efforts 
enhances the convenience of using the CHAMPVA program, and now 
VA can process applications and claims faster than they have in 
the past. I am encouraged that the VA is now aiming to process 
100 percent of electronic claims within 30 days. It should be 
noted that in the past, their stretch goal was to process 90 
percent of electronic claims in that time.
    However, there are still obstacles and opportunities for 
this program. Navigating VA bureaucracy is never easy. I have 
heard that certain obstacles remain in CHAMPVA, and I expect 
our witnesses to highlight these issues today.
    Foremost, this subcommittee will do its part so that the VA 
can process 100 percent of all claims within 30 days, not only 
the electronic ones. Paper claims still take too long to 
process. I know delays are inherent and manual processing is 
tedious, but I look forward to working with the VA to speed up 
paper processing as well.
    Second, there is limited transparency for status updates on 
applications or claims requests. Spouses and children want to 
know what is going on with your application. Caregivers and 
providers want to know whether their claims will be accepted or 
denied. Whenever they hear radio silence from the VA, they lose 
trust in the VA.
    This subcommittee spoke with one large healthcare provider 
who shared that the VA assigned a direct representative to 
address their claims questions. The direct representative was 
too overwhelmed to ever timely resolve the provider's 
questions. The provider would have to wait months just to get 
questions answered. Speaking as a veteran and a provider, I 
want to ensure this provider's experience is a thing of the 
past. There must be a better way to get information for 
families and providers so they know exactly what their benefits 
are ahead of time.
    Third, the VA could resolve claims faster if it improved 
its ability to cross-reference a spouse or a child's health 
insurance and whether that person reached his or her 
deductible. Because CHAMPVA can function as either a primary or 
a secondary payer, providers must properly bill either the 
program or somebody else's health insurance first. 
Unfortunately, this coordination frequently breaks down and 
providers lose time filing the claim, only for the VA to 
require a different form.
    It is also important to know in real-time whether a spouse 
or child has reached the deductible. Right now, real-time 
knowledge is unavailable to claims processors. I would like to 
see that change.
    Last, some aspects of the CHAMPVA process create snags for 
caregivers that limit the program's use. The subcommittee has 
heard most about the fact that CHAMPVA identification cards 
are, in fact, not cards. They are strips of paper. Mrs. Benson 
so clearly explained the issue when she showed this 
subcommittee her own card. She explained that if anything 
happens to the card, meaning paper strip, like if somebody 
accidentally spills a drink on it, it has never happened to 
anybody in this committee or in the audience, the caregiver 
must wait for another strip of paper from the VA. Caregivers 
should not have to ask their neighbor for a laminator to avoid 
damage or destruction to their healthcare paperwork.
    I hope this discussion sheds light on these concerns and 
opens the door to further discussions on how we continue to 
modernize CHAMPVA and have it work better for veterans and 
their caregivers.
    Just like every other American family, veteran families 
with caregiving responsibilities set aside this time of year to 
give their thanks to God, celebrate one another, and enjoy 
tradition. Caregivers must also balance the healthcare demands 
to ensure that they and their loved ones in need enjoy the 
season to the fullest. Our goal with this hearing is to make 
CHAMPVA work as it is intended to serve veterans families.
    Finally, I would like to thank beneficiaries, like Mrs. 
Benson and many others from groups like Senator Elizabeth 
Dole's foundation, for sharing their stories and bringing 
CHAMPVA's issues to us.
    I now yield to Ranking Member Brownley for any open remarks 
she may have.

      OPENING STATEMENT OF JULIA BROWNLEY, RANKING MEMBER

    Ms. Brownley. Thank you, Madame Chair. Thank you to our 
witnesses for being here today and apologize for the waiting 
that you had to undergo. I am glad to have an opportunity to 
examine the CHAMPVA program and the significant opportunities 
for improvement in VA's administration of this program.
    I would first like to note that the committee staff have 
not received a briefing from VA's Office of Integrated Veteran 
Care (IVC) since December 2024, a whole year ago. I hope you 
agree, Madame Chair, that this is wildly unacceptable, 
especially considering this office is responsible for 
administering community care programs that account for more 
than $40 billion per year in VA expenditures. Committee staff 
used to receive briefings from this office every other month. I 
am very concerned that under the Trump administration, these 
briefings have completely stopped.
    CHAMPVA is just one of the programs the Office of 
Integrated Veteran Care administers, and it is my understanding 
that they were working on a number of initiatives to improve 
this program throughout 2024, but we have received no updates 
in nearly a year.
    I am glad VA officials are here today to share their recent 
progress, but it is clear from our other witnesses' testimony 
that far more remains to be done and we need more regular 
oversight of CHAMPVA program. Whether it is the lack of online 
self-service tools for applicants, enrollees, and providers, 
the lack of a formal provider network or online provider 
directory, or the lack of transparency for beneficiaries and 
providers about allowable payment rates, there are many ways 
that CHAMPVA could work better for beneficiaries and providers.
    As many of you know, I have long been a proponent of 
reforms for CHAMPVA. I strongly believe my legislation to allow 
dependents to remain enrolled until they turn 26, regardless of 
school enrollment, is necessary to ensure parity between 
CHAMPVA and most Other Health Insurance (OHI) plans. However, 
in previous testimony about my CHAMPVA bill, VA indicated that 
it does not view CHAMPVA as an insurance plan, but as a medical 
care benefit. As I said, then, if it walks like a duck and 
swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a 
duck. CHAMPVA has copays, annual deductibles, and maximum out-
of-pocket costs. It has a formulary. CHAMPVA requires prior 
authorization for certain services. It counts as minimum 
essential coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA). If that 
is not health insurance, I do not know what it is.
    VA needs to decide if it wants to continue to force 
caregivers and families of veterans to navigate a system that 
has all of the complexities and frustrations of health 
insurance and places all the burden of navigating that system 
on beneficiaries, or if it wants to provide the loved ones of 
fallen and severely injured servicemembers and their caregivers 
of our most vulnerable veterans with the best support and 
healthcare benefits possible. That is my choice.
    Mrs. Benson, I am glad we have you here today to speak 
about your own experiences as well as your work with the Code 
of Support Foundation, helping other families and caregivers 
navigate the system. It is clear from your testimony that you 
are well-versed in this program and how to navigate it. VA 
should not be reliant on beneficiaries to recruit providers, 
determine what codes will allow VA to process claims, and know 
every step of a complex appeals process. The way the system is 
currently set up, it seems you need endless hours of free time 
and the equivalent of a Ph.D. in health insurance just to make 
sure your family can get covered for the care you need. This 
obviously is not acceptable.
    I believe it is clear to everyone in this room that there 
is massive room for improvement in the CHAMPVA program. This 
hearing is a good step at providing insight and oversight. I 
hope it will not end here.
    I thank you and, Madame Chair, thank you for the hearing, 
and I yield back.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, Ranking Member Brownley.
    I would now like to introduce our witnesses who have been 
very patient through this process. Thank you again.
    Testifying before us today, we have Dr. Maria Llorente, 
acting assistant under secretary for health at the Office of 
Integrated Veteran Care at the VA. She is supported by Mr. 
David Fennell, director of veteran and family member programs, 
including CHAMPVA. Mrs. Caira Benson, veteran support and 
strategic initiatives specialist at the Code of Support 
Foundation. She is also a CHAMPVA beneficiary. Mr. Jim Zenner, 
excuse me, national policy director for the National 
Association of County Veteran Service Officers.
    Dr. Llorente, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to 
present your testimony.

                  STATEMENT OF MARIA LLORENTE

    Dr. Llorente. Thank you. Chairwoman Miller-Meeks, Ranking 
Member Brownley, and distinguished members of the subcommittee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify today about the 
Civilian and Medical Program of the Department of Veterans 
Affairs, or CHAMPVA, a vital program that provides healthcare 
coverage to eligible spouses, children, survivors, and 
caregivers of qualifying veterans. Joining me today is Mr. 
David Fennell. He is the director of veteran and family member 
programs in the Office of Integrated Veteran Care.
    CHAMPVA plays a critical role in supporting the families of 
veterans who have made profound sacrifices in service to our 
Nation. My testimony today will provide an overview of the 
program's eligibility criteria, current operations, recent 
improvements, and opportunities for continued collaboration 
with Congress to ensure timely, efficient, and equitable access 
to care. Authorized under the United States Code Title 38, 
Section 1781, CHAMPVA provides healthcare coverage to eligible 
spouses, surviving spouses, and children of veterans who are 
permanently and totally disabled due to a service-connected 
disability or who died as a result of a service-connected 
condition or who died while rated permanently and totally 
disabled from a service-connected condition. It also covers 
certain survivors of members who died in the line of duty and 
certain primary family caregivers under the program of 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers.
    To be eligible for CHAMPVA, the individual cannot be 
eligible for TRICARE. As of November 2025, CHAMPVA provides 
healthcare coverage to more than a million beneficiaries. The 
program receives approximately 4,000 new applications every 
week, and more than 90 percent of medical and pharmacy claims 
are now processed electronically within days of receipt, 
ensuring timely reimbursement and continuity of care.
    Under the leadership of Secretary Collins, and thanks to 
recent reforms, the application backlog, previously exceeding 
70,000 cases, has been eliminated. New applications are now 
processed in a matter of days. The appeals backlog has also 
been reduced from over 20,000 to approximately 1,000 with 
continued progress underway. These improvements reflect 
Department of Veterans Affairs' commitment to veteran first 
service delivery, accountability, and efficiency.
    Under the last administration, CHAMPVA faced significant 
delays in application and appeals processing due to increased 
demand, staffing constraints, and reliance on legacy manual 
systems. Some applicants waited over 150 days for 
determinations. Under Secretary Collins' leadership, VA 
implemented a two-pronged strategy: authorizing overtime for 
application processors and introducing enhanced process 
engineering and new automation to streamline workflows. These 
actions have assured timely access to benefits for eligible 
CHAMPVA beneficiaries.
    VA is modernizing CHAMPVA operations to reduce bureaucracy 
and improve the user experience. In December 2025, we will 
complete the transition to a more automated application 
processing system, increasing efficiency and reducing manual 
workload. These efforts align with VA's broader digital 
transformation strategies and support the Department's goals of 
transparency, reduced administrative burden, and improved 
outcomes for veterans and beneficiaries.
    Access to accurate provider information is another area of 
focus. Although CHAMPVA beneficiaries may see any provider who 
accepts CHAMPVA's allowable rates, VA acknowledges that 
beneficiaries may experience difficulty identifying 
participating providers or confirming whether a provider is 
accepting new patients. We are working to improve how provider 
information is presented and maintained, including updating 
publicly available guidance and strengthening communication 
with providers who build CHAMPVA.
    We appreciate the continued interest in strengthening 
CHAMPVA. Over the last few months, VA has made significant 
strides in eliminating backlogs, modernizing systems, and 
improving access. We remain focused on delivering timely, high-
quality service to those who have sacrificed so much.
    This concludes my statement and we look forward to 
responding to any questions that you may have.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Maria Llorente Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, Dr. Llorente.
    Mrs. Benson, you are now recognized for 5 minutes to 
present your testimony.

                   STATEMENT OF CAIRA BENSON

    Mrs. Benson. Chairwoman Miller-Meeks, Ranking Member 
Brownley, and members of the House Veterans' Affairs 
Subcommittee on Health, thank you for inviting me to testify 
today. It is my honor to return to further the discussion on 
the inefficiencies and inequalities within the Department of 
Veterans Affairs CHAMPVA Program.
    At the Code of Support Foundation we work with veterans and 
their families every day. Our digital resource hub, 
PATRIOTlink, has served over 67,000 military community members 
to find needed supports and resources. Our case management team 
has already worked with over 1,300 family members this year to 
navigate local, regional, national, and government partners to 
achieve stability through needed financial, social, physical 
health, and mental health supports. I am not just here as an 
employee. I am here as a caregiver and advocate and Elizabeth 
Dole Foundation fellow alum and a CHAMPVA user.
    I care for my husband, who deployed twice to Iraq as a 
combat engineer between 2003 and 2006. My husband suffered 
multiple traumatic brain injuries during his years of service, 
complicated by toxic encephalopathic process, most likely due 
to chemical exposure. My five children and I enrolled in 
CHAMPVA in 2017, when my husband was awarded permanent total 
status for service-connected injuries. We breathed a sigh of 
relief knowing that we would have the safety net of healthcare 
for myself and our children, three of whom have needed 
specialty medical care through the years.
    I testified in June of this year to this subcommittee about 
the nightmare navigating CHAMPVA has been for our family. 
Highlights of that nightmare include having to sign a $110,000 
promissory note to ensure a needed hospitalization occurred in 
the chance that CHAMPVA refused payment and being sent to 
collections when CHAMPVA claims payments did not occur in a 
timely manner, with one provider waiting over 27 months for 
payment. CHAMPVA's appropriate care has felt anything but 
appropriate.
    I will not rehash my earlier testimony. I know the 
committee is interested in how the situation looks for CHAMPVA 
today, if changes have been made, and how those changes have 
been received since my last testimony.
    I commend VA for finally clearing the CHAMPVA application 
backlog. It is beyond time to process applications in real 
time.
    I was also overjoyed to hear that claims being submitted 
electronically are being paid quicker than previously. Yet even 
with that good news, the situation on the ground for CHAMPVA 
users remains murky. While the application backlog is cleared, 
only two families I know waiting on their decisions have 
received notifications of such to date.
    Provider acceptance of CHAMPVA still remains a challenge. I 
had a medical complication this year which required me to 
travel over an hour for outpatient procedures as they were the 
nearest willing provider to file. I still pay out of pocket for 
my children's mental health providers as we have yet to find a 
provider who accepts CHAMPVA mental health for kids.
    I know I am not alone. At Code of Support one of our most 
frequent requests is mental health supports for dependents. We 
have multiple national and regional providers we work with for 
those supports. Five take TRICARE and refuse to take CHAMPVA. 
To quote one, VA is too difficult to work with.
    It is hard to place blame on the providers for declining 
CHAMPVA . Indeed, VA has made it difficult on providers filing 
claims and on users looking for providers. Lack of a provider 
network and published fee schedules, unclear claims filing 
processes, and varied claims payment times contribute to the 
difficulties. Appeals for denied coverage under CHAMPVA are 
difficult to navigate as well.
    A CHAMPVA enrollee recently had her child's claim for an 
ambulance ride during an anaphylaxis event denied. It took us 
an hour of digging through claims denial letters, Explanation 
of Benefits (EOB), and Current Procedural Terminology (CPT) 
codes to understand what had happened. The denial was due to 
inaccurate billing codes. While we do not believe the CHAMPVA 
enrollee will be charged for the ambulance ride, the denial 
letter listed three appellate structures, none of them the 
Clinical Appeal option listed on the CHAMPVA website. None of 
them offered an option for a third party review, something that 
was considered routine in today's world of denied insurance 
claims.
    As they did in the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee on May 
21, 2025, VA has argued in the past that CHAMPVA is not an 
insurance product, it is a medical service. I remain steadfast. 
The industry, the Federal Government, and, more often than not, 
VA itself treats CHAMPVA as an insurance product. If we choose 
to shop for insurance through Healthcare Marketplace, CHAMPVA 
enrollees are not eligible for financial assistance nor 
advanced premium tax credits.
    Every year, CHAMPVA enrollees receive a 1095B attesting to 
the fact that CHAMPVA accounts for minimal essential coverage 
under the Affordable Care Act. Finally, even VA states that 
CHAMPVA is only available to caregivers in the VA's Program for 
Comprehensive Assistance to Family Caregivers when they have no 
other health insurance. Thus, CHAMPVA identifies itself as an 
insurance plan when it offers proof of coverage and bars use of 
its plans in the face of other coverage.
    Indeed, the stance that CHAMPVA is not an insurance product 
is detrimental to veterans families. At Codes of Support I 
recently walked a disabled veteran through enrollment for his 
wife into CHAMPVA. Prior to reaching out to us, the veteran had 
purchased insurance for his dependent, causing a financial 
burden through the Healthcare Marketplace, not understanding 
that CHAMPVA provided ACA compliant coverage.
    In short, CHAMPVA remains a complicated mess for users. 
While VA has announced positive steps to easing some of these 
known problems, CHAMPVA fixes are far from complete. CHAMPVA 
users need statutory change and regulatory clarity, mandated 
electronic claims filings, and claims--and clarity in claims 
appeals processes, including a third party review.
    In VA's mission to fulfill President Lincoln's promise to 
care for those who have served for our Nation's military and 
for their families, caregivers, and survivors, CHAMPVA is 
failing. As a community we cannot continue to allow this 
egregious lapse of coverage for those who need it most.
    I thank you for your time and I look forward to your 
questions.

    [The Prepared Statement Of Caira Benson Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, Mrs. Benson.
    I now recognize Mr. Zenner for his opening testimony for 5 
minutes.

                   STATEMENT OF JAMES ZENNER

    Mr. Zenner. Chairwoman Miller-Meeks and Ranking Member 
Brownley, distinguished members of the committee, thank you for 
the opportunity to appear before you today on behalf of the 
National Association of County Veteran Service Officers. N-A-C-
V-S-O or NAC-V-S-O represents the government-employed 
accredited advocates who help veterans and their families 
access the benefits that they have earned.
    First, I want to express our sincere appreciation to the 
CHAMPVA staff for their extraordinary progress in reducing the 
application backlog. We are hearing reports of applications 
being processed on average of 10 days and in some as few as 4. 
That is not simply an administrative improvement, it is timely 
access to healthcare for eligible dependents and we thank the 
teams responsible for this achievement.
    Today I want to highlight several practical refinements 
that would increase accessibility and efficiency for CHAMPVA 
families and the Government Veteran Service Officers (GVSO) who 
serve them. Our first recommendation is modernizing the CHAMPVA 
application process. Right now, GVSOs cannot submit CHAMPVA 
applications electronically. They must print, complete, and 
then fax or mail them, which prevents confirmation of receipt, 
prevents tracking, and makes it difficult to provide updates to 
families.
    Meanwhile, many dependents cannot use VA.gov. The digital 
submission workflow similar to the Veterans Benefits 
Administration's (VBA) National Work Queue would allow 
electronic submission, real-time status updates, and reduce 
burden on CHAMPVA staff. Additionally, expanding the VA Form 
21-22 authority to include Veterans Health Administration (VHA) 
and CHAMPVA would allow accredited officers to communicate with 
CHAMPVA staff directly, speeding resolution of issues for 
families.
    Our second recommendation is expanding provider awareness 
and participation. Across the country many community providers 
do not know what CHAMPVA is, who it covers, and how the billing 
works. Some confuse it with TRICARE or VA Community Care, and 
this creates avoidable access barriers. Targeted education 
campaigns, provider toolkits, inclusion and electronic billing 
systems, and partnerships with medical associations would 
meaningfully expand access for spouses, dependents, and 
caregivers.
    Third, we recommend redesigning CHAMPVA identification 
cards. Providers frequently mistake the CHAMPVA card for the 
Community Care card and, in some cases, dependents have been 
turned away. A distinct and easily recognizable card would 
reduce confusion and improve the care experience.
    Finally, we urge the committee to address the coverage gap 
for dependent students turning 18. Under current policy, 
CHAMPVA eligibility elapses until school enrollment is 
verified, a process that often takes 8 to 9 months. During this 
time, dependents incur medical costs out of pocket, claims are 
lost or forgotten, and families face unnecessary stress despite 
the fact that VBA has already determined the underlying 
eligibility. Provisional continued coverage, automated 
verification with schools, online certification at VA.gov and 
pre-verification notices would significantly reduce this 
burden.
    CHAMPVA is a very strong program and recent progress 
demonstrates VA commitment to families of those who have 
served, but continued refinement is both necessary and 
achievable. Government Veterans Service Officers stand ready to 
assist VA and this committee in improving processes, expanding 
access, and ensuring that eligible family members receive 
timely, reliable health coverage.
    Thank you for your leadership and thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today. I am happy to answer any 
questions. Thank you.

    [The Prepared Statement Of James Zenner Appears In The 
Appendix]

    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you very much, Mr. Zenner.
    As is my typical practice, I will reserve my time until all 
of the members have had a chance to ask their questions.
    I now recognize Ranking Member Brownley for 5 minutes for 
any questions she may have.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you, Madame Chair.
    My first question is to Ms. Llorente. Thank you for being 
here. We know based on Mrs. Benson's testimony that even 
despite VA's recent elimination of the application backlog, and 
that is a good first step, I want to acknowledge that, that is 
a good first step, but many families are still waiting to know 
the status of their applications and their school enrollment 
certifications. The only way for them, the way I understand it, 
is to check their status is to call the call center, the 
CHAMPVA call center. Do you know what the average wait time is 
to talk to someone on the other end of the call center?
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. It can vary based on 
the time of day, the day of week. In some cases, it could be as 
little as 5 to 10 minutes. In other cases, it could be as long 
as several hours.
    Ms. Brownley. As long as how many?
    Dr. Llorente. Several hours.
    Ms. Brownley. Several hours.
    Dr. Llorente. Yes. We do have a callback feature that is 
part of the call center, but it is not acceptable.
    Ms. Brownley. Well, I know the committee staff called the 
service line four times and all four times there was a message 
saying that the wait time would be over 2 hours. Not 2 hours, 
but over 2 hours. Why--I mean, that seems like an easy problem 
to solve and I do not know why it is not being solved.
    I mean, it is great to, you know, attack the backlog. That 
is great. If people cannot get finality to the situation, that 
is not great. This, you know, waiting more than 2 hours for 
folks can be pretty frustrating.
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, ma'am, I agree with you. We are taking a 
series of steps in order to address the issue. I wish that it 
was an easy problem to solve because please be assured, if it 
was, it would have been solved.
    Some of the various steps that we are in the process of 
taking are looking at our workflows, standardizing some of the 
workflows. We have also begun leveraging additional contractor 
support. We do have a contractor with whom we work that assists 
in surging and answering the call center.
    A very important step that we are working on conducting is 
being able to do online status verification so that there would 
not even be a need for, for a phone call. The veteran and/or 
the beneficiary would be able to check online and be able to 
see the status of their application, the status of their claim. 
We are planning to be able to do that in 2026. Efforts are 
underway. These are some of the steps that we are taking.
    Ms. Brownley. Okay. Until that program happens, if somebody 
is waiting over 2 hours to talk to a live human being, their 
issue has not been resolved, then do they just have to say 
thank you very much and try next week and go through the same 
exercise, or do you prioritize that person and call them back 
with a resolution to what the issue is so that they do not have 
to continually go through this horrendous process?
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, that is one of the features that are 
part of our call centers. We are able to call the veteran and/
or the beneficiary back.
    Ms. Brownley. Okay. Mrs. Benson, so, again, thank you for 
being here. You have been quite helpful to us looking into this 
process, so really appreciate your time and focus on this.
    In your testimony, you discussed how difficult it has been 
to find pediatricians and mental healthcare providers willing 
to accept the CHAMPVA payment. I know you talked about, you 
know, having a list of a network of providers, you know, that 
you can reference somehow. I do not think that that is going to 
happen overnight. We are still arguing with the VA whether this 
is an insurance policy or not. What are your suggestions? What 
do you think VA could do to encourage more providers into this 
program?
    Mrs. Benson. Thank you for the question and thank you for 
having me here again.
    I think one of the first things that we need is provider 
education. Providers do not know they have to enroll in the 
Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT) system. Providers do not know 
that it runs on a Medicare-Medicaid background or backbone 
versus a TRICARE backbone. I have had to actually walk urgent 
carers through how to file and what system to file it on. That 
knowledge is going to be key in getting to providers to come on 
board.
    What will also be key is providers knowing how much they 
are going to get paid. It is fine that there is an acceptable 
rate. Most providers I talk to know that it is somewhere within 
the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) rates, but 
that it vacillates. For me, and I am a layperson, but looking 
back at it going, it is out of IVC, there is a Community Care 
Network (CCN), there are already contracts available, it is 
mindboggling to me that we cannot use a backbone that is 
already there.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you. My time is up. I yield back.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you, Ranking Member Brownley.
    I now recognize Representative King-Hinds for 5 minutes for 
any questions she may have.
    Ms. King-Hinds. Thank you, Chairwoman and Ranking Member 
Brownley. Before I begin, I want to say thank you to Secretary 
Collins and the VA team for making good on the promise to cut 
down the significant backlog of veteran claims. That progress 
matters not just in numbers, but in real lives, in real 
families, and in the trust veterans place in in the 
organization. It shows what is possible when the VA focuses on 
outcomes instead of obstacles.
    I am also very encouraged that you are finally moving to 
modernize CHAMPVA through the Provider Directory for families, 
especially in the territories. I am from the Commonwealth of 
the Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI). That is the district that 
I represent. Simply knowing which providers are available, 
which ones accept CHAMPVA, and where they can turn to for care 
is very critical. It is long overdue and it is a positive step 
and I want to give a big ups and kudos to all of you.
    Even with these improvements, the challenges remains very 
serious for my district. The U.S. Government Accountability 
Office (GAO) has been very clear. Veterans and their families 
in the CNMI and across the territories face some of the highest 
barriers to healthcare access anywhere in the United States. 
Those same structural gaps, too few providers, limited 
specialty care, long distance travel, and virtually no 
territory-specific data directly affects the families who rely 
on CHAMPVA.
    For us, right, on paper CHAMPVA is available everywhere 
where the flag flies. In places like the CNMI or Guam, access 
can still feel more theoretical than real. I do not think that 
we can fix this issue if we cannot--if we do not know what to 
measure. Congress cannot hold the VA accountable without the 
data.
    Today I hope that we can have a conversation about the gaps 
in data, right, so that these benefits on statute actually 
truly works for everyone, no matter which ZIP Code you live at.
    My question then is how can the VA assure Congress that 
this program is functioning equitably if it does not track 
utilization, access wait times, or outcomes for territories? I 
looked, I scoured the Internet, I scoured the GAO reports, 
Inspector General (IG) reports, and I do not see any data with 
regards to this type of program for the territories.
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, thank you very much for that question. 
You are right, to the best of my knowledge, we are not tracking 
wait times, we are not tracking specific outcomes for the 
beneficiaries that are in the program. We are able to look 
based on claims, how many claims are coming from what area. We 
have, I do not know the specific data, and we are happy to take 
it for the record to find out, you know, by territory, the 
number of at least claims that have been paid. That gives us a 
sense of the services that are being offered in that area.
    I think that that is one of the reasons why we have come to 
appreciate that a Provider Directory is a very first step, but 
is a first step, so that we can begin to even assess the 
adequacy of the existing providers that we have. It will also 
help us to provide more targeted outreach so that if, for 
example, to Mrs. Benson's point, we see that there is an area 
that lacks a pediatrician that is a CHAMPVA provider, we will 
specifically reach out to all of the pediatricians in that 
geographic area and try to work with them, maybe work with a 
professional organization, for example, to encourage their 
participation in CHAMPVA. It is just an example of what we have 
been discussing internally as mechanisms to be able to address 
some of these problems.
    Ms. King-Hinds. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, I 
do have some data here with regards to Fiscal Year 2023. What 
we are seeing in the CNMI is that we have 45 enrollees. We only 
have 15 users at a utilization rate of 33.3 percent, which is a 
drastic--there is a significant difference with regards to how 
the trends are across the United States in comparison to this 
utilization number. I just kind of wanted to get a better 
understanding of why you think that is and how we can make some 
reforms to be able to get more people to be, one, aware of the 
program; two, know which care providers that they can go to so 
that they can have access to some of this care and, you know, 
have the data to be able to justify whatever infrastructure 
that need that is needed to be put into place in the 
territories.
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, ma'am. What I would like to be able to 
do is first obtain the more recent data from Fiscal Year 2025. 
The data that you cited is in keeping with what we have seen. 
That is, overall, we have about 67 percent utilization of 
CHAMPVA services within our total group of enrollees. I would 
like to see if there has been any difference between the 2023 
numbers that you cited and the 2025 currently.
    Then, you are right, we need to dig into it and try to have 
a better understanding of why there are differences if, in 
fact, we find differences.
    Ms. King-Hinds. Thank you. I am out of time. Thank you.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you very much.
    The chair now recognizes Representative Cherfilus-McCormick 
for 5 minutes for any questions she may have.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Thank you, Madame Chair, and thank 
you, also, Ranking Member, for holding this important hearing.
    You know, serving our veterans, and especially their 
families, is one of our primary responsibilities and promises. 
I am happy that we are looking at CHAMPVA, especially since it 
serves over 700,000 people in Florida. We are looking around my 
district, 60,000. We have had several questions to the families 
who are using CHAMPVA.
    While CHAMPVA is not perfect, it provides a lifeline to so 
many families, and it must continue to be bolstered and 
strengthened to adequately serve those who need it the most. 
Over the past few years, I have heard from veterans and their 
families about their exposure to environmental toxins while 
living near the military installations. Whether it is Red Hill 
or Camp Lejeune, we have seen the devastating effects of toxic 
exposure on families, like cancer, infertility, and 
neurodivergent diseases. This is of concern for military 
families, and no military family should be left behind to fend 
for themselves.
    Dr. Llorente, has your Department looked at expanding the 
scope of CHAMPVA to include military families who have been 
exposed to toxins?
    Dr. Llorente. At this point in time, the eligibility 
criteria are in statute and we include or deem that a family 
member is eligible based on those existing criteria. Within the 
Veterans and Family Member Program, we do have certain 
outcomes-related additional programs, such as the Spina Bifida 
Program. We have the smaller Vietnam Veteran Women's whose 
children have certain disabilities. Then we also have the Camp 
Lejeune family Member program. Each of those is designed for 
very specific situations, very specific toxic exposures. Those 
are the programs that we currently have.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Do you think there could be other 
avenues to provide coverage or do you think that CHAMPVA can 
solely handle it?
    Dr. Llorente. Well, because I have described some very, 
very specific areas, they only cover those areas. We are more 
than happy to work with Congress in order to explore any other 
areas that, you know, could be assessed and reviewed in the 
future.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. I guess my question also is, 
because we are thinking about how many people are actually 
being exposed, are there other departments or other areas that 
we should look into in addition to CHAMPVA? I do not know if 
you would know that answer.
    Dr. Llorente. I was just about to say I do not think that I 
am necessarily prepared to address that question today, but 
more than happy to take it for the record and reach out to some 
of our other program offices that I think are better suited to 
be able to address that question.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Thank you. While I am optimistic 
about the future of CHAMPVA, I understand that the current 
program is not without its issues.
    Mrs. Benson, I was deeply disturbed to hear that you had to 
put over $110,000 promissory note and CHAMPVA refused to cover 
a medically necessary hospitalization. This is definitely 
unacceptable. No person, especially the spouse of a veteran who 
has served our country, should ever have to put a down payment 
just to see a doctor.
    Dr. Llorente, how typical is this required for people to 
put down a down payment?
    Dr. Llorente. Congresswoman, I have to be frank with you, I 
have not ever encountered this type of a situation before. I 
would like to separately reach out to Mrs. Benson to have a 
little more detail about the specific circumstances, not only 
to be able to address this specific issue, but to have a sense 
of, are there gaps that we are not addressing so that we can 
figure out what are the steps that need to be taken so it does 
not happen to other people.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Is this the first time you are 
hearing of this kind of situation?
    Dr. Llorente. It is the first time I am hearing of it, yes, 
ma'am.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Okay. How would you feel if we had 
any kind of agreement or arrangement to actually track these 
situations and other outliers just so we can make sure that 
this is not happening and that there are other obstacles 
actually going forward?
    Dr. Llorente. I would very much appreciate any similar 
types of situations or any other kinds of cases like this, 
specifically because it is our duty. As we have discussed, it 
is our duty not only to take care of the veterans and their 
families and caregivers, but to fix problems that need to be 
fixed.
    Ms. Cherfilus-McCormick. Thank you so much. I yield back.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you.
    The chair now recognizes Dr. Dexter for 5 minutes for any 
questions she may have.
    Ms. Dexter. Thank you very much to Chairwoman Miller-Meeks 
and to Ranking Member Brownley for again having this very 
important hearing. Thank you to our witnesses for coming to 
testify today.
    According to data from the Veterans Health Administrator's 
Office of Integrated Veteran Care, there are over 10,000 
Oregonians enrolled in CHAMPVA . To those Oregonians, we have 
made a solemn promise, as we have been discussing, that in 
return for the immense sacrifices their family members have 
made, we will ensure they get access to healthcare services 
they need. However, as Mrs. Benson has shared in her testimony, 
we continue to fall short on delivering on that promise.
    When a family member who is owed a care through the VA is 
sick, the last thing in the world that they should be doing is 
fighting through red tape to be seen. They most certainly 
should not be signing promissory notes, agreeing to pay 
hundreds of thousands of dollars for care in case the VA 
payment falls through.
    As the number of CHAMPVA beneficiaries continue to grow 
with the Sergeant First Class Heath Robinson Honoring our 
Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics (PACT) Act 
implementation, and if more families are forced to turn to this 
coverage because Congress is unable to implement a fix to the 
ACA premium tax credit enhancement being taken away, we must be 
focused on getting this system to work better for families.
    Dr. Llorente, sorry, in your testimony, I was pleased to 
see discussion of the need to address the dearth of information 
about where CHAMPVA beneficiaries can seek care. As I 
understand it, under the current system, beneficiaries have to 
individually contact providers, and we have discussed that. It 
is obviously frustrating and it needs updating.
    It strikes me that one solution to the dearth of option 
available to CHAMPVA beneficiaries would be to require 
community care network providers to accept CHAMPVA payments. 
This would also have the benefit of meaning VA would only have 
to maintain a single Provider Directory. Can you comment on any 
statutory or regulatory hurdles that would need to be overcome 
to consider this as an option?
    Dr. Llorente. I appreciate that question. I do not know the 
answer to that question. Let me check for a moment with Mr. 
Fennell to see if, you know, he has some recognition or 
knowledge to be able to address it.
    Ms. Dexter. I think it is an unfair thing to ask on the fly 
for you to put testimony before a congressional hearing, so I 
will just ask that we do--and we ask for many questions to be 
responded to, and often we do not get them. If I can just 
assure myself that you will get back to me, that is totally 
appropriate.
    Dr. Llorente. Absolutely.
    Ms. Dexter. Thank you.
    Dr. Llorente. Yes.
    Ms. Dexter. As this committee continues to discuss and 
conduct necessary oversight of this program, Dr. Llorente, can 
you share the date on which the number of backlogged 
applications peaked and the number of pending applications on 
that date, like the high point when we had the worst backlog?
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, ma'am. It was approximately in May of 
this year, 2025.
    Ms. Dexter. Okay, thank you. Can you share the percentage 
of applications that were approved versus denied in 2025 as 
approved compared to the same period in the prior fiscal year?
    Dr. Llorente. I do not know the percent approved in Fiscal 
Year 2024. I do know that in Fiscal Year 2025, approximately 80 
percent of the applications are approved.
    Ms. Dexter. Okay, thank you. I have heard that VA, to clear 
this backlog, they have set up a separate key for--queue, 
sorry, for beneficiaries that have another form of insurance 
with an unreported backlog. How many applications are in this 
queue awaiting a determination from VA?
    Dr. Llorente. I am going to ask Mr. Fennell to address that 
question, if you do not mind.
    Ms. Dexter. No. Please, Mr. Fennell.
    Mr. Fennell. Yes, thank you for the question. Currently, we 
are now processing and have the ability to process OHI with the 
application. That is a process improvement that we have 
included in order to expedite both of the processing of OHI, 
other health insurance, and the CHAMPVA application.
    Right now we are applying automation to those OHI documents 
that are separate and we are able to automate the processing of 
a grand majority of those. We had a height of around 300,000 
when we initiated the queue that you referenced. I think now we 
are in real time, meaning we were processing those as quickly 
as we are the applications themselves. I want to say we might 
have around 20,000 remaining to process. Again, in applying 
this process and automated solutions, that is real time, 
meaning over the next week those will be processed.
    Ms. Dexter. If I may, to follow up on that, so 300,000 
almost immediately. I am assuming these automated tools are 
Artificial Intelligence (AI)-generated. Is there a quality 
control making sure that the right determinations are happening 
for CHAMPVA?
    Mr. Fennell. There are. The quality control measures, are 
the business rules that are up front that we apply. Some of 
that may not necessarily be AI as much as just a business rule 
that follows statutory and regulatory guidelines.
    Ms. Dexter. Okay, thank you. I am over time. Yield.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you very much.
    The chair now recognizes Dr. Conaway for 5 minutes for any 
questions he may have.
    Mr. Conaway. Thank you, Chairwoman Miller-Meeks and Ranking 
Member Brownley, for putting this hearing together so that we 
can conduct a much needed oversight on this very important 
program.
    As of November 2025, CHAMPVA is providing healthcare 
coverage to more than 1 million beneficiaries. At a time when 
healthcare prices are increasing and the expiration of the 
Affordable Care Act is looming, we must strengthen this 
healthcare program for independents and survivors of veterans.
    In my State of New Jersey, premiums are projected to 
increase by 174 percent. The average annual premium cost could 
jump almost $2,800 on average. For some, it could mean that 
costs will go up by tens of thousands. This is unacceptable. I 
encourage my colleagues to find a solution to this looming 
cliff that so many Americans are facing, will face with respect 
to their healthcare if a solution is not found to the problem 
of the expiration of the premium tax credits.
    I am curious to know, Ms. Llorente, do you anticipate that 
the expiration of the ACA tax credits will impact enrollment 
for CHAMPVA?
    Dr. Llorente. Thank you very much. I appreciate that 
question, and I truly do not know the answer. We still would 
need the veteran sponsor to meet the eligibility criteria. That 
becomes, you know, sort of the first thing that has to occur. I 
simply do not know how many spouses or dependents of veterans 
that are 100 percent service-connected, permanent, and total, 
are currently receiving ACA benefits.
    Mr. Conaway. Are you conducting any planning in 
anticipation of the some 20 million people who are going to 
lose these tax credits? Are you doing any anticipatory planning 
to prepare for a potential influx of new applications as the 
people can no longer afford their health insurance benefit or 
health insurance under the ACA?
    Dr. Llorente. Our primary planning, and we do work very 
closely with projections and enrollment and as well as with VHA 
Fiscal, has been looking at the increasing numbers year over 
year of beneficiaries who have been enrolling in CHAMPVA. For 
many years that figure was pretty steady, about 5 to 8 percent 
year-over-year growth. Then PACT Act was enacted. That growth 
went to about 13 to 14 percent. During the past year, we have 
seen almost a 22 to 23 percent increase. That in and of itself 
we are and have been tracking very, very closely.
    We are engaging in projections so that we assure that we 
have sufficient budget currently and in future years to address 
the healthcare needs based on past expenditures with 
adjustments for those increases. Have we factored in impact 
from ACA specifically? No, sir, at this point we have not.
    Mr. Conaway. Do you know then how many of your enrollees 
also have insurance under the ACA? Do you have that number?
    Dr. Llorente. I do not. Let me check with Mr. Fennell. Do 
you know?
    Mr. Fennell. Thank you, sir, for the question. I do not 
know the answer to that question, but I am apprised of the 
eligibility criteria and I do not see a situation where that 
changes with the ACA tax credit, which is permanently and 
totally disabled.
    Mr. Conaway. Just reclaim my time because I am running out 
of time.
    Mr. Fennell. Oh, sorry, sir.
    Mr. Conaway. I just want to get to this question of the 
lack of providers in particular markets and what is being done 
about that. Now, typically, I mean, as one who ran a practice 
years ago, you know, you sort of have to determine--when you 
determine to bring on an insurance policy, how much does it 
pay? Is it worth my time compared to the other insurances that 
I accept covering, you know, people who can come to the office?
    Is one problem that the CHAMPVA is not paying enough? Two, 
that it is perhaps too difficult for people to enroll in 
CHAMPVA? Have you looked into that and how are you addressing 
those factors which I am sure are impacting the number of 
physicians who are accepting CHAMPVA patients?
    Mr. Fennell. Yes sir, thank you, and happy to answer that 
question. We are required by law to pay like or similar to 
TRICARE. That is actually those are the payment methodologies 
that are loaded into our system, our TRICARE methodologies. The 
other aspect to this is we are normally a secondary payer 
benefit. If they have Medicare or they have other health 
insurance, that is going to be billed first and I would imagine 
that would be a primary concern to the treating physician. If 
it does get to a secondary payment, we would pay like or 
similar to TRICARE.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Thank you very much, Dr. Conaway.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    If I can, I am just going to have a point of clarification. 
Certainly myself and members of my party and members of this 
committee want to make sure that healthcare costs are brought 
down for everyone, not just a select few that may be on 
enhanced premium tax credits. The premium tax credits under the 
ACA are not expiring, only the enhanced premium tax credits are 
expiring. I thought I would put forth that clarification since 
this is entered into the record.
    Additionally, we do not force providers to accept Medicaid. 
We do not force providers to accept TRICARE. Being a provider 
and a veteran, it seems to me that forcing providers to accept 
CHAMPVA who are in the community, would that be considered 
indentured servitude? I will pose that question to Dr. Llorente 
and you can submit an answer in writing.
    Thank you for that. Just making those points valid that we 
look at the constitutional nature of what it is that we may 
require of someone to do.
    Dr. Llorente, what is the industry standard for the amount 
of time to process claims, both paper and electronic? Then how 
does the VA compare, if you have that information?
    Dr. Llorente. Thank you, Chairwoman. I do not know the 
answer to that question, but happy to take it for the record 
and then provide the comparative numbers.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Then I applaud the efforts at getting 
through the backlog and applying more technology to improving 
backlog and also your efforts in trying to keep family members 
and providers up to date on the status of their claims. To that 
end, is the VA using artificial intelligence or augmented 
intelligence to improve both applications, the claims process 
or status, and updates for that? If so, how and, if not, why?
    Dr. Llorente. Thank you very much for that question. I am 
going to ask Mr. Fennell to address that because he has way 
more technical savvy than I do.
    Mr. Fennell. Thank you for the opportunity to answer that 
question. It began, as I answered before, with just with 
business rules and loading those into the system to make 
automated decisions. When it comes to artificial intelligence, 
which brings in an additional capability, we are starting to 
apply some of the those capabilities when it comes to these 
newer modernized platforms that we are moving into for 
processing both claims and eligibility applications.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Mrs. Benson, I think that you have 
answered this question in your testimony, but I just want to 
reiterate it. Would it help to have a Provider Directory for 
families and caregivers? If so, are you supportive of 
Representative Kiggans' legislation?
    Ms. Benson. Thank you for the question. I am not familiar 
with the legislation, but I can say it would be helpful to have 
both a contracted network and a Provider Directory. Yes. Thank 
you.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Great. Thank you. I yield back.
    I want to thank all our witnesses for being here. I am 
going to recognize Ms. Brownley for any closing remarks you may 
have. Oh, oh, my apologies. We have another member snuck in.
    The chair now recognizes Representative Kiggans for 5 
minutes for any testimony she may have.
    Ms. Kiggans. Thank you, Madame Chair, for having me here 
today to discuss the Civilian Health and Medical Program of the 
Department of Veteran Affairs, or CHAMPVA, and to highlight how 
Congress can improve this program for our veteran caregivers 
and dependents.
    I represent Hampton Roads, Virginia, which is home to 
thousands of veteran families who use the CHAMPVA system to 
support our Nation's veterans and to access their veteran 
healthcare. Caregiving requires tremendous sacrifice, but 
access to quality healthcare should not be one of them.
    CHAMPVA is a vital program for the caregivers and 
dependents of permanently disabled veterans. It ensures they 
can continue to support the veteran in their lives and still 
receive the healthcare services they require. However, it can 
be difficult for caregivers and dependents to find providers in 
their community that accept CHAMPVA. On most occasions, 
caregivers have to do their own research and find specific 
providers that will take their coverage.
    To rectify this situation, I introduced the Clarity on Care 
Options Act, which directs the VA's Community Care Network to 
create a public-facing list of all providers who are in network 
for CHAMPVA enrollees. We must make this provider information 
accessible to caregivers and dependents of disabled veterans. 
The easier we make finding healthcare for our caregivers, the 
more time they can spend with their loved ones.
    I want to thank our witnesses for taking the time to 
educate us about the gaps we see in this program and what we 
can do to help increase support to those who support our men 
and women who served our country. With that, I have another few 
questions for our witnesses if there is time.
    When it comes to finding providers that accept CHAMPVA, how 
has your experience, and this is for Mrs. Benson, how has your 
experience been? Is there any difficulty locating specialty 
healthcare providers who accept CHAMPVA?
    Mrs. Benson. Thank you for the question. Yes, there is a 
terrible issue. Back to the hospitalization I mentioned, I had 
a daughter who needed specialty care. I called 26 hospitals 
across the Nation, only 1 would take her. Even today I pay out 
of pocket. No mental healthcare provider, and I am in Florida 
between very two large metropolises, accepts CHAMPVA for teens. 
Even for myself, if it is not hospitalization, which is 
mandated to file, only one major network takes it. We end up 
paying most of our care out of pocket, above and beyond CHAMPVA 
and cash.
    Ms. Kiggans. Thank you. Mr. Zenner, from your perspective, 
what barriers do you often see beneficiaries of CHAMPVA face 
when it comes to accessing their benefits?
    Mr. Zenner. Yes, thank you for the question. Very similar: 
lack of education of providers, confusion with the CHAMPVA card 
itself are two of the biggest barriers that we currently see as 
County Veteran Service Officers.
    Ms. Kiggans. Would a directory or a list of providers of 
sorts be beneficial then?
    Mr. Zenner. Yes, ma'am.
    Ms. Kiggans. In these cases for sure.
    Mr. Zenner. Yes, ma'am.
    Ms. Kiggans. Then for Dr. Llorente, many caregivers report 
learning about CHAMPVA only years after becoming eligible, in 
most cases, as the program is currently. How do veteran 
dependents find out about CHAMPVA?
    Dr. Llorente. Yes, thank you very much for that question. 
There are a couple of different ways. One is that part of the 
changes that have occurred in VBA when the veteran becomes 
permanent and total 100 percent, part of the packet that they 
receive describing the rating includes information about 
CHAMPVA for their dependents and how to enroll in the program.
    A second way is the CHAMPVA program itself does do direct 
outreach to potentially eligible beneficiaries, advising them 
of the program and how to apply for it. We are continuing to 
also engage in additional outreach efforts because one of the 
things that we have discussed internally is that we could 
certainly be doing a better job of putting promoting this 
benefit.
    Ms. Kiggans. Specifically, how is the VA improving the 
CHAMPVA's phone and customer service operations given reports 
of long wait times and inconsistent information.
    Dr. Llorente. We have engaged in a series of steps toward 
that. One is we have increased contractor support that can be 
specifically surged during peak times.
    In addition to that, we are working on implementing some 
new telephony systems so that it will begin to offer more in 
the way of self-service, so that those issues that can be 
addressed via self-service are addressed. Then it moves those 
clients, those persons that need agent-assisted calls, it sort 
of, you know, separates out the ones that can be handled via 
self-service.
    In addition to that, we are looking at our workflows, 
streamlining some of those, being able to standardize some of 
the workflows as well, because there are things that we have 
identified that are being done, you know, with too much 
variance, and that is also then leading to some of the delays. 
Just a few examples.
    Ms. Kiggans. Yes. Great. Thank you for working on that. 
Last question, as the VA can--no, I am sorry. Maybe I will save 
it for later.
    Thank you. I yield back.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Just to know that I am fair to everyone 
in the hearing room. Thank you. Your time has expired. The 
gentlewoman yields back.
    I now recognize Ranking Member Brownley for any closing 
statements you may have.
    Ms. Brownley. Well, I would just say, Madame Chair, I thank 
you for having this hearing. I think it is--we need to get the 
VA back to briefing staff so we can keep updating on, you know, 
what progress is being made. That is the frustration. We do not 
have a plan in front of us. We do not have a timeline in front 
of us. There is no way for us to do the oversight that we 
really need to do.
    This is an important program that we need to get right. I 
think we are all clear on where the problems lie and what needs 
to be done. It is just--it is a matter of doing it. If the 
Secretary was willing to hire more people or give people more 
overtime to deal with the backlog, we need to do the same to 
all these other problematic areas to get them, you know, up to 
speed and running.
    I honestly believe that if we accept the fact that CHAMPVA 
is more like an insurance plan than a medical care benefit, you 
will see directly what needs to be done and how to do it if you 
just follow the model of what insurance plans do, including a 
directory of providers, whatever. You know, we need to have the 
oversight. I hope we can have another hearing to do our due 
diligence as we move forward.
    I thank you all for being here. Mrs. Benson, thank you for 
being here. Thank you for all the help that you do for so many 
other veterans who need your help, veterans, their families, 
and caregivers who need your help and support.
    I yield.
    Ms. Miller-Meeks. Well, certainly it is an important 
hearing. I appreciate, Dr. Llorente, what you and the office 
has done to improve the backlog. Then your continued work on 
keeping family members and caregivers, trying to improve the 
knowledge of where their claims are. Then the other efforts 
that we need to take on provider education, as Mrs. Benson and 
Mr. Zenner had said, how to file claims and how much they are 
paid so that we can get providers into this very important 
program to make sure that both family members, spouses, and 
caregivers are aware and have access to the benefits that those 
veterans have earned for them.
    I would like to take this time to thank everyone for their 
participation. Thank you so much for your patience and I do 
apologize. Although it was out of my hands, I still feel it is 
necessary to apologize for the inconvenience to you all and to 
those who wanted to participate in today's hearing. I 
appreciate the discussions we have had on this important topic 
and we will continue to have oversight.
    The complete written statement of today's witnesses will be 
entered into the hearing record.
    I ask unanimous consent that all members have 5 legislative 
days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous 
material. Hearing no objections, so ordered.
    I thank the members and the witnesses for their attendance 
and participation today. This hearing is now adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 4:44 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]
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                    Prepared Statements of Witnesses

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                  Prepared Statement of Maria Llorente

    Chairwoman Miller-Meeks, Ranking Member Brownley, and distinguished 
Members of the Subcommittee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify 
today about the Civilian Health and Medical Program of the Department 
of Veterans Affairs (CHAMPVA), a vital program that provides health 
care coverage to eligible spouses, children, survivors, and caregivers 
of qualifying Veterans.
    Joining me today is Mr. David Fennell. He is the Director of 
Veteran and Family Member Programs in the Office of Integrated Veteran 
Care.
    CHAMPVA plays a critical role in supporting the families of 
Veterans who have made profound sacrifices in service to our Nation. My 
testimony today will provide an overview of the program's eligibility 
criteria, current operations, recent improvements, and opportunities 
for continued collaboration with Congress to ensure timely, efficient, 
equitable access to care.
    Authorized under the United States Code, Title 38 Section 1781, 
CHAMPVA provides health care coverage to eligible spouses, surviving 
spouses, and children of Veterans who are permanently and totally 
disabled due to a service-connected disability, who died as a result of 
a service-connected condition(s), or who died while rated permanently 
and totally disabled from a service-connected condition(s). It also 
covers certain survivors of persons who died in the line of duty and 
certain Primary Family Caregivers under the Program of Comprehensive 
Assistance for Family Caregivers. To be eligible for CHAMPVA, the 
individual cannot be eligible for TRICARE.
    As of November 2025, CHAMPVA provides health care coverage to more 
than one million beneficiaries. The program receives approximately 
4,000 new applications per week. More than 90 percent of medical and 
pharmacy claims are processed electronically within days of receipt, 
ensuring timely reimbursement and continuity of care.
    Under the leadership of Secretary Douglas A. Collins and thanks to 
recent reforms, the application backlog--previously exceeding 70,000 
cases--has been eliminated. New applications are now processed in a 
matter of days. The appeals backlog has also been reduced from over 
20,000 to approximately 1,000, with continued progress underway. These 
improvements reflect the Department of Veterans Affairs' (VA) 
commitment to Veteran-first service delivery, accountability, and 
efficiency.
    Under the last Administration, CHAMPVA faced significant delays in 
application and appeals processing due to increased demand, staffing 
constraints, and reliance on legacy manual systems. Some applicants 
waited over 150 days for determinations. Under Secretary Collins' 
leadership, VA implemented a two-pronged strategy: authorizing overtime 
for application processors and introducing enhanced process engineering 
and new automation to streamline workflows. These actions have assured 
timely access to benefits for eligible CHAMPVA beneficiaries.
    VA is modernizing CHAMPVA operations to reduce bureaucracy and 
improve the user experience. In December 2025, we will complete the 
transition to a more automated application processing system, 
increasing efficiency and reducing manual workload. These efforts align 
with VA's broader digital transformation strategy and support the 
Department's goals of transparency, reduced administrative burden, and 
improved outcomes for Veterans' and VA beneficiaries.
    Access to accurate provider information is another area of focus. 
Although CHAMPVA beneficiaries may see any provider who accepts 
CHAMPVA's allowable rates, VA acknowledges that beneficiaries may 
experience difficulty identifying participating providers or confirming 
whether a provider is accepting new patients. We are working to improve 
how provider information is presented and maintained, including 
updating publicly available guidance and strengthening communication 
with providers who bill CHAMPVA.
    We appreciate the continued interest in strengthening CHAMPVA. Over 
the last few months, VA has made significant strides in eliminating 
backlogs, modernizing systems, and improving access. We remain focused 
on delivering timely, high-quality service to those who have sacrificed 
so much.

Conclusion

    This concludes my statement. We look forward to responding to any 
questions that you may have.


                   Prepared Statement of Caira Benson

    Chairman Miller-Meeks, Ranking Member Brownley, and Members of the 
House Veterans' Affairs Subcommittee on Health, thank you for inviting 
me to testify today. It is my honor to return to further the discussion 
on the inefficiencies and inequalities within the Department of 
Veterans Affairs' (VA) Civilian Health and Medical Program of the 
Department of Veterans Affairs (CHAMPVA).
    At the Code of Support Foundation (COSF), we work with veterans and 
their families every day. Our digital resource hub, PATRIOTlink, has 
served over 67,000 military community members to find needed supports 
for active duty servicemembers, veterans, caregivers, family members, 
and survivors. Every day our case management team works to connect 
active duty servicemembers, veterans, caregivers, family members, and 
survivors to local, regional, national, and government partners to 
achieve needed financial, social, physical health, and mental health 
supports to achieve stability. At COSF, we are in the records daily and 
in-tune with the needs of the military community.
    But I am not just here as an employee of a veterans' non-profit. I 
am here as a caregiver, advocate, and a CHAMPVA user. I care for my 
husband who deployed twice to Iraq as a combat engineer between 2003-
2006. My husband suffered multiple Traumatic Brain Injuries (TBIs) 
during his years in service; however, it would take until 2018 to 
formally diagnose those TBIs, despite a clear record of evidence. It 
would take another year to figure out his case was complicated by toxic 
encephalopathic process, most likely due to chemical exposures. Today, 
Eric is unable to work, needs full-time care, and is seen by a 
university neurological team due to the complexity of his case.
    My five children and I enrolled in CHAMPVA in 2017 when my husband 
was awarded Permanent and Total status for his service-connected 
injuries. We breathed a sigh of relief knowing that we would have the 
safety net of health insurance for myself and our children, three of 
whom have needed specialty medical care through the years.
    I testified in June of this year to this subcommittee about the 
nightmare navigating CHAMPVA has been for our family. Highlights of 
that nightmare include having to sign a $110,000 promissory note to 
ensure a needed hospitalization occurred in the chance that CHAMPVA 
refused payment, putting needed medical care on hold while waiting 6 
months for preauthorization, being sent to collections when CHAMPVA 
claim payments didn't occur in a timely manner with one provider 
waiting over 27 months to receive payment for services. CHAMPVA's 
``appropriate care'' has felt anything but appropriate. Indeed, I still 
find our family's health needs are in arrears because we hesitate to 
use the complicated system which many in my area will not file.
    I will not rehash my testimony given in June of this year - I know 
the committee is interested in how the situation looks for CHAMPVA 
users today, if the changes have been made, and how those changes have 
been received since my last testimony.
    I commend VA for finally clearing the CHAMPVA application backlog. 
It is beyond time to process applications in real time. I also was 
overjoyed to hear that claims being submitted electronically are being 
paid quicker than previously.
    Yet, even with that good news, the situation on the ground for 
CHAMPVA users remains murky. While the application backlog is cleared, 
only two families I knew waiting on their decisions have received 
notifications of such to date.
    Provider acceptance of CHAMPVA still remains a challenge. As a user 
myself, I had a medical complication this year which required me to 
travel over an hour for out-patient procedures as they were the nearest 
provider willing to file.
    Even living in last year's fastest-growing county in the Nation, I 
still cannot find a pediatrician who will file CHAMPVA for primary 
pediatric care for my children. I still pay out-of-pocket for my 
children's mental health providers as we have yet to find a provider 
who accepts CHAMPVA.
    I know I am not alone. At COSF, one of our most frequent requests 
is mental health supports for dependents. We have multiple national and 
regional providers we work with to provide such supports for our 
clients. Five of these take TRICARE and refuse to take CHAMPVA. To 
quote one, ``VA is too difficult to work with.''
    I feel those words deeply. Indeed, the difficulty of the process 
has made me personally stop filing for reimbursement. It is one more 
bureaucratic fight that caregivers like me do not need.
    It is hard to place blame on providers for declining to accept and 
file CHAMPVA. Indeed, VA has made it difficult on providers filing 
claims and on users looking for providers. There is no known provider 
network or contracts outside of CHAMPVA's pharmacy component run by 
OptumRX.
    I have talked to multiple providers who tell me there is no 
published fee schedule. While there is a ``CHAMPVA acceptable pay 
rate,'' most providers do not know what that is until they are paid or 
until the patient receives their Explanation of Benefits (EOB). Most 
providers tell me they understand the acceptable rate is based on 
Centers for Medicaid & Medicare Services (CMS) rates, however pay can 
vacillate lower than the Medicare rate. By agreeing to file the claim, 
providers are barred from recouping any difference between the expected 
and paid rates.
    Claims filing is messy, at best, with many providers still filing 
via paper claims through either the local VA Medical Center (VAMC) or 
CHAMPVA mail-in centers, depending on what current local advice is. 
Several providers I spoke to were unaware of the ability to file claims 
electronically.
    Claim payment times are not guaranteed. Some claims are paid in 
weeks; some claims are paid in years. Payments for claims are delayed 
by filing codes that are, unbeknownst to the filer, not accepted by 
CHAMPVA causing denials, and requiring refiling. Delayed payment means 
that I routinely talk to CHAMPVA users who have their accounts sent to 
collections by providers due to the length of time between claim filing 
and claim payment. Indeed, I had two such discussions just last week.
    I recently learned that VA now offers an app where family members 
can look up CPT codes to ensure services are covered. And I ask this - 
why am I, as a caregiver and dependent, required to do what every other 
insurance agency does through yearly contract updates to their provider 
network?
    As they did in the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee on May 21, 
2025, VA has argued in the past that CHAMPVA is not an insurance 
product, it is a medical service. I remain steadfast--the industry, the 
Federal Government, and, more often than not, the VA treats CHAMPVA as 
an insurance product. For instance, like those covered by Medicaid, 
Medicare, or TRICARE, CHAMPVA enrollees may not take part in the drug 
cost reduction programs offered to patients on fixed or low incomes. If 
we choose to shop for insurance through the Health Care Marketplace, 
CHAMPVA enrollees are not eligible for either financial assistance nor 
advance premium tax credits. Every year, CHAMPVA enrollees receive a 
1095-B attesting to the fact that CHAMPVA counts as minimum essential 
coverage under the Affordable Care Act. Finally, even VA states that 
CHAMPVA is only available to caregivers enrolled in VA's Program for 
Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers (PCAFC) when they have 
no other health insurance. Thus, CHAMPVA identifies itself as an 
insurance plan when it offers proof of coverage and bars use of its 
plans in the face of other coverage.
    CHAMPVA provides EOBs, approves and denies diagnostic codes, 
approves and denies medical treatment codes, and remits payment for 
enrollees to providers for approved services rendered by the medical 
community. CHAMPVA even has out-of-pocket maximums, deductibles, 
copays, and a medication formulary with tiered pricing. With the 
exception of the difficulty of use, CHAMPVA feels like every other 
insurance product I have ever received through an employer.
    Indeed, the stance that CHAMPVA is not an insurance product is 
detrimental to veterans' families. At COSF, I recently walked a 
Permanent and Totally disabled veteran through enrollment for his wife 
into CHAMPVA. Prior to reaching out to us, this veteran had purchased 
insurance for his dependent through the Healthcare Marketplace, not 
understanding that CHAMPVA provided Patient Protection and Affordable 
Care Act, or ACA, complaint coverage.
    I am positive we will hear today from VA that CHAMPVA is equivalent 
to TRICARE. Except, we users know it is not. TRICARE has contracted 
rates and a published fee schedule. TRICARE has mandated electronic 
filing and a clear appeals system. Treatments we know are covered under 
TRICARE are not always covered under CHAMPVA. Some other major 
differences:

      TRICARE offers TRICARE Young Adult allowing for coverage 
for dependents 18-21 (23 if in college). CHAMPVA coverage ends on the 
dependents 18th birthday unless enrolled in school.

      TRICARE offers coverage for stepchildren until the 
marriage ends in divorce. CHAMPVA's stepchild coverage ends at 18 or 
when the child leaves the domicile, meaning a stepchild who changes 
their address to go to college could be dropped.

      TRICARE retirees may choose Federal Employees Dental and 
Vision Insurance Program (FEDVIP) which provides orthodontia coverage 
for dependents. CHAMPVA enrollees may only choose VA Dental Insurance 
Program (VADIP), where orthodontia was cut from the leading plan this 
year (DeltaDental).

    Appeals for denied coverage under CHAMPVA are difficult to navigate 
as well. I recently had a caregiver call me because her child's recent 
claim for an ambulance ride during an anaphylaxis event was denied by 
CHAMPVA. It took over an hour of digging claims denial letters, EOBs, 
and CPT codes to understand what had happened - the denial was due to 
an inaccurate billing code which was billed under both an individual 
code and a packaged CMS code. CHAMPVA had paid the packaged code but 
denied the individual code, and we do not believe the CHAMPVA enrollee 
will be charged for the ambulance ride.
    The denial letters listed three appellate structures: a 
supplemental claim or higher-level review through the Veteran Family 
Member Program (VFMP) appeals office or an appeal to the Board of 
Veterans' Appeals. Yet, the CHAMPVA website states there is a clinical 
appeal option that was not mentioned in the denial letter. How does a 
CHAMPVA user without extensive knowledge understand the next steps to 
appeal a denied claim? What was also glaringly missing? Something 
considered routine in today's world of denied insurance claims - an 
option for a third-party review for denied services.
    In short, CHAMPVA remains a complicated mess for users. The 
historically large gap between enrollees and users validates this 
difficulty. In the 2024 congressional report, Health Care for 
Dependents and Survivors of Veterans (RS22483), the gap is evidenced 
across the decades with 2024 having over 700,000 enrollees but only 
488,000 users.
    While VA has announced positive steps to easing some of the known 
CHAMPVA problems, CHAMPVA fixes are far from complete.
    CHAMPVA users need:

      Statutory change to bring parity to stepchildren;

      Statutory clarity to allow for a contracted provider 
network with clear, contracted CPT codes and published fees, similar to 
the modernization of CHAMPUS to TRICARE;

      Regulatory updates establishing a provider network with 
clear, contracted CPT codes and published fees;

      Mandated electronic claims filing; and

      Clarity in claims appeals processes, including a third-
party review.

    We also need you as a subcommittee to remember who receives CHAMPVA 
eligibility - TRICARE ineligible dependents of permanently and totally 
disabled veterans, survivors of those same veterans, and those enrolled 
in PCAFC with no other health insurance. In other words, our most 
vulnerable community members.
    In VA's mission, ``To fulfill President Lincoln's promise to care 
for those who have served in our Nation's military and for their 
families, caregivers, and survivors,'' CHAMPVA is failing. As a 
community, we cannot continue to allow this egregious lapse of coverage 
for those who need it most.
    We at COSF stand ready to work alongside VA and this Committee to 
help modernize CHAMPVA. I thank you for your time and attention, and I 
look forward to your questions.


                   Prepared Statement of James Zenner

    Chairman Bost, Ranking Member Takano, and distinguished members of 
the Committee, on behalf of the National Association of County Veteran 
Service Officers (NACVSO), we thank you for the opportunity to provide 
written testimony for the record. We value this Committee's steadfast 
commitment to improving the benefits, services, and systems that 
directly impact veterans and their families across the Nation.
    To begin, NACVSO would like to extend sincere appreciation to the 
staff at the CHAMPVA offices for their extraordinary work in reducing 
the application backlog. We are hearing consistent reports from our 
members that CHAMPVA applications are now averaging close to 10 days 
for initial processing, with some cases moving in as few as four. This 
progress is not merely administrative--it is lifesaving. It means 
eligible dependents gain timely access to health care coverage without 
enduring prolonged periods of uncertainty. These teams deserve real 
credit for this achievement.
    Our testimony today is offered with respect for our partners at 
CHAMPVA and with a shared goal: to identify practical refinements that 
would increase accessibility, transparency, and efficiency for eligible 
family members and for the Government Veteran Service Officers (GVSOs) 
who serve them.

        1. Modernizing CHAMPVA Applications by Enabling Digital 
        Submission

    As previously mentioned, NACVSO represents government-employed 
veteran service officers across the country. As accredited 
representatives, these officers act as the primary navigators for 
veterans and their families who rely on them to access the benefits 
they have earned. Yet, when assisting dependents with CHAMPVA 
applications, these advocates face a significant barrier: there is 
currently no mechanism for GVSOs to submit CHAMPVA applications 
electronically.
    To help a dependent apply, a GVSO must print out the application, 
complete it by hand with the applicant, and then fax or mail it to the 
CHAMPVA office. This process prevents accredited representatives from:

      receiving a digital confirmation of submission,

      tracking the application's progress, and

      providing timely updates when a dependent calls for 
assistance.

    Meanwhile, veterans eligible for VA.gov have access to online 
submission portals--but many dependents do not, as they lack a VA.gov 
profile and therefore cannot fully engage in self-service options.
    CHAMPVA applications are ready for modernization. NACVSO recommends 
the development of a digital submission workflow, modeled after the 
Veterans Benefits Administration's successful National Work Queue 
rollout. A similar system for CHAMPVA would:

      generate submission confirmations for applicants and 
accredited reps,

      show real-time status updates (e.g., ``received,'' ``in 
review,'' ``decision made''),

      reduce administrative burden on CHAMPVA staff, and

      increase trust and transparency for families.

    A viable path forward may include enabling eligible survivors and 
dependents to obtain VA.gov access specifically for benefits and 
CHAMPVA-related documentation.
    In parallel, expanding VA Form 21-22 authority--which formalizes 
representation between claimants and accredited organizations--to 
include the Veterans Health Administration and its subordinate entities 
(including CHAMPVA offices) would allow NACVSO's accredited officers to 
communicate directly with CHAMPVA staff. This would reduce delays, 
minimize errors, and empower GVSOs to resolve issues on behalf of 
families more efficiently.

        2. Increasing Provider Awareness and Participation

    A persistent challenge reported nationwide is the lack of 
understanding among community healthcare providers about what CHAMPVA 
is, who it covers, and how reimbursement works. Many providers have 
never encountered CHAMPVA before; some conflate it with TRICARE or with 
VA Community Care. This lack of knowledge discourages provider 
participation and creates avoidable access-to-care barriers for spouses 
and dependents.
    NACVSO recommendations to expand provider awareness include:

      Targeted campaigns to large provider networks, hospital 
systems, and independent practices explaining CHAMPVA coverage and 
billing processes.

      Provider-focused training materials, such as webinars or 
downloadable toolkits, distributed through VA's Office of Community 
Care and regional CHAMPVA liaisons.

      Inclusion in electronic health record (EHR) billing 
libraries, ensuring CHAMPVA appears as an easily selectable insurer.

      Partnerships with professional associations to 
disseminate CHAMPVA guidance, if not already active.

    These efforts would immediately expand access for eligible 
dependents by reducing confusion at the point of service.

        3. Redesigning CHAMPVA Identification Cards

    Community providers frequently confuse the CHAMPVA identification 
card with the VA Community Care card, resulting in some instances where 
a dependent is turned away for care. This confusion burdens families 
and forces repeated follow-up with CHAMPVA and GVSOs.
    NACVSO recommends that VA explore restyling CHAMPVA eligibility 
cards to create a distinct, easily recognizable format. Clear 
differentiation--both visually and textually--would minimize confusion 
and support smoother interactions with community providers nationwide.

        4. Addressing the CHAMPVA Coverage Gap for Dependent Students

    A particular issue arises during the transition period when a 
dependent turns 18. Under current policy, CHAMPVA eligibility lapses 
unless the dependent is enrolled full-time in school and provides 
verification to CHAMPVA. Unfortunately, the processing time for this 
school enrollment certification often stretches eight to 9 months, 
creating a substantial coverage gap.
    During this period:

      dependents incur medical expenses out of pocket,

      families must attempt reimbursement long after the care 
has occurred,

      claims may be forgotten or lost, and

      dependents undergo administrative burdens during what 
ought be a routine eligibility continuation.

    This gap is perplexing given that VBA has already determined 
eligibility for the underlying veteran benefit that establishes 
Dependent's Education Assistance and CHAMPVA access. NACVSO recommends 
a few potential mitigation strategies such as:

      Provisional Continuation of Coverage:

          Allow dependents to maintain uninterrupted CHAMPVA 
        coverage for a defined period (e.g., 6 months).

      Direct Data Exchange with Educational Institutions:

          Establish an automated system where schools can 
        provide enrollment verification directly to CHAMPVA, similar 
        existing VA education certification offices.

      Online Certification at VA.gov for Dependent Students:

          Similar to existing VA.gov profiles, access would 
        allow dependents to upload proof of enrollment through an 
        online portal that generates a timestamp and receipt.

      Pre-verification reminders:

          Create automated notices 6 months before the 
        dependent's 18th birthday.

    Addressing this single chokepoint would eliminate a 
disproportionate amount of confusion and financial strain for thousands 
of families each year.
    Overall CHAMPVA is performing well, and the reduction in 
application backlog stands as clear evidence of the dedication of VA's 
workforce. But as with any successful program, continued refinement is 
both necessary and possible.
    Government Veteran Service Officers are uniquely positioned to 
assist VA in improving the CHAMPVA experience for eligible family 
members. As the front-line, accredited advocates charged with helping 
veterans and their dependents navigate Federal benefits, GVSOs see 
these challenges--and potential solutions--every day. NACVSO stands 
ready to support VA and this Committee in modernizing processes, 
expanding access, and ensuring that the families of our veterans 
receive the timely, reliable health coverage.
    Thank you for your continued leadership and for the opportunity to 
provide testimony. NACVSO remains committed to working with the 
Department of Veterans Affairs, CHAMPVA leadership, and Congress to 
strengthen all programs for those who served and those who stand 
alongside them.

Jim Zenner,

Policy Director, NACVSO

Director of Military and Veteran Affairs of Los Angeles County

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          Prepared Statement of Paralyzed Veterans of America

    Chairwoman Miller-Meeks, Ranking Member Brownley, and members of 
the subcommittee, Paralyzed Veterans of America (PVA) appreciates this 
opportunity to share our views on how to strengthen the Civilian Health 
and Medical Program of the Department of Veterans Affairs (CHAMPVA) for 
survivors and dependents.
    CHAMPVA is a comprehensive healthcare program for the spouse or 
widow(er) and children of an eligible veteran. The Department of 
Veterans Affairs (VA) shares the cost of certain healthcare services 
and supplies provided through this program with eligible beneficiaries. 
It may also provide benefits to the Primary Family Caregiver through 
the Program of Comprehensive Assistance for Family Caregivers.
    Accessing healthcare through CHAMPVA can be challenging for several 
reasons. Until recently, just getting an initial application for 
CHAMPVA health coverage approved took months. In late November, VA 
announced it eliminated a backlog of more than 70,000 CHAMPVA 
applications. They are processing new applications in a handful of 
days, and the department says they can process more than the 4,000 new 
applications per week that it currently receives.
    They substantially reduced the number of pending appeals as well, 
from roughly 20,000 earlier this year to about 1,000 today. Their 
success in reducing the backlog for both claims and appeals is properly 
attributed to Secretary Collins' decision to use overtime pay for VA 
staff to get the job done, while streamlining the process and 
leveraging automation to speed it up. VA expects to move to a more 
automated application processing system this month, which will increase 
the efficiency of processing CHAMPVA applications. It will also ensure 
that most medical services and pharmacy claims are electronically 
processed within days of receipt for more timely payment.
    There may be some lingering concerns regarding payment holds for 
CHAMPVA providers. These holds are placed on providers who have not 
enrolled in electronic funds transfer, and we understand there are 
thousands of them in this position. The lack of timely reimbursements 
has plagued the program, and we urge the department to work with these 
providers to resolve the problem as quickly as possible.
    Finding providers that accept CHAMPVA has always been a vexing 
issue for several reasons. The paperwork burden for the program is 
high, insurance denials can be troublesome, there is no network to 
manage rates or fee schedules, and reimbursement rates are extremely 
low, making those provided by other Federal and private plans far more 
attractive. We encourage Congress to work with VA to address each of 
these problem areas.
    Coverage for a veteran's children under CHAMPVA currently expires 
when they turn 18, unless they are full-time students. In this case, 
they continue to receive coverage until they turn 23, stop attending 
school full-time, or get married. However, for most Americans with 
health insurance, their adult children can remain on their plan until 
age 26 with no separate premium, as mandated in the Patient Protection 
and Affordable Care Act (ACA) (P.L. 111-148). CHAMPVA and the 
military's TRICARE programs were not affected by the ACA, so they 
required separate congressional action to extend these benefits to 
children up to age 26. This discrepancy was addressed for TRICARE in 
2011 and H.R. 1404, the CHAMPVA Children's Care Protection Act would 
fix this for VA's CHAMPVA program.
    The delay in making this change to CHAMPVA has adversely impacted 
several of our members, including PVA member Amy and her husband. She 
served honorably in the U.S. Marine Corps before an SCI/D cut her 
military service short. Her husband served in the Marine Corps as well, 
but injuries he sustained in Operation Desert Storm curtailed his 
military career, too. Both have 100 percent disability ratings from the 
VA. Their two boys have severe immune deficiencies that were caused by 
their parents' exposure to hazards during their military service. As a 
result, the boys require weekly plasma infusions to keep them alive. 
These infusions cost thousands per month, and they cannot afford to pay 
for them out of pocket. They rely on CHAMPVA to provide this life-
saving care and suffered tremendous angst when their oldest child 
turned 18. Fortunately, he became well enough with the infusions that 
they were able to keep him in school and CHAMPVA until he turns 23 in 
March 2026. The younger child is currently 17 but he has additional 
comorbidities that may not allow him to do the same. The family is 
straining under the pressure that the lack of action from Congress has 
put on them, and unless legislation like this is passed, there is a 
very real possibility that both children will age out of the program 
next year.
    The VA testified in opposition to the companion measure to this 
bill during a May 1, 2025, Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee hearing. 
The witness correctly stated that CHAMPVA was not affected by the ACA, 
but we disagree with VA's assertion that it is not health insurance 
because it clearly functions like it. For example, certain types of 
care and services require preauthorization. This approval is extremely 
important, and the failure to obtain it may result in denial of the 
claim. Also, providers must be properly licensed in their State to 
receive payment from CHAMPVA, and they cannot be on the Medicare 
exclusion list. To be reimbursed, providers must file a claim, using 
diagnosis and procedure codes that all other healthcare plans follow.
    The congressional Research Service (CRS) which advises Congress on 
programs like this seems to agree. In its October report to Congress on 
VA healthcare programs for dependents and survivors, CRS stated, 
``CHAMPVA is primarily a health insurance program where certain 
eligible dependents and survivors of veterans receive care from private 
sector healthcare providers. The program is administered by the 
Veterans Health Administration (VHA), Assistant Under Secretary for 
Health (AUSH) for Integrated Veteran Care, Office of Integrated Veteran 
Care (IVC). The law (38 U.S.C. Sec. of veterans, 1781) requires CHAMPVA 
to provide for medical care in the same or similar manner and subject 
to the same or similar limitations as medical care is furnished to 
certain dependents and survivors of active duty and retired members of 
the Armed Forces under [the Department of Defense (DOD) TRICARE 
program].'' \1\
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    \1\ Health Care for Dependents and Survivors of Veterans, October 
16, 2024.
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    DOD's TRICARE program wasn't affected by the ACA either, but 
Congress created the TRICARE Young Adult program in 2011, which 
provides health care for qualified young adults aged 21 to 26 who are 
unmarried and not eligible for an employer-sponsored health plan. Our 
government should not deem veterans' dependents and survivors less 
worthy than civilians for support. Those who are eligible for CHAMPVA 
should be able to retain their healthcare coverage until their 26th 
birthday just like those in private and Federal healthcare plans. H.R. 
1404, the CHAMPVA Children's Care Protection Act, would raise CHAMPVA's 
eligibility age to 26, making it consistent with all other Federal and 
private plans. We urge Congress to pass this legislation as quickly as 
possible.
    PVA would once again like to thank the subcommittee for the 
opportunity to submit our views on CHAMPVA. We look forward to working 
with you on this important issue and would be happy to take any 
questions for the record.

  Information Required by Rule XI 2(g) of the House of Representatives

Pursuant to Rule XI 2(g) of the House of Representatives, the following 
information is provided regarding Federal grants and contracts.

                            Fiscal Year 2026

Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of National Veterans Sports 
Programs & Special Events--Grant to support rehabilitation sports 
activities--$368,500.

                            Fiscal Year 2025

Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of National Veterans Sports 
Programs & Special Events----Grant to support rehabilitation sports 
activities--$502,000.

                            Fiscal Year 2023

Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of National Veterans Sports 
Programs & Special Events----Grant to support rehabilitation sports 
activities--$479,000.

                     Disclosure of Foreign Payments

Paralyzed Veterans of America is largely supported by donations from 
the general public. However, in some very rare cases we receive direct 
donations from foreign nationals. In addition, we receive funding from 
corporations and foundations which in some cases are U.S. subsidiaries 
of non-U.S. companies.

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