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            PIER PRESSURE: REGULATION AND COMPETITION 
                    IN MARITIME SHIPPING
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                  SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE, 
                   REGULATORY REFORM, AND ANTITRUST

                       COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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                        TUESDAY, MARCH 17, 2026

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                       COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY

                        JIM JORDAN, Ohio, Chair

DARRELL ISSA, California             JAMIE RASKIN, Maryland, Ranking 
ANDY BIGGS, Arizona                      Member
TOM McCLINTOCK, California           JERROLD NADLER, New York
THOMAS P. TIFFANY, Wisconsin         ZOE LOFGREN, California
THOMAS MASSIE, Kentucky              STEVE COHEN, Tennessee
CHIP ROY, Texas                      HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., 
SCOTT FITZGERALD, Wisconsin              Georgia
BEN CLINE, Virginia                  ERIC SWALWELL, California
LANCE GOODEN, Texas                  TED LIEU, California
JEFFERSON VAN DREW, New Jersey       PRAMILA JAYAPAL, Washington
TROY E. NEHLS, Texas                 J. LUIS CORREA, California
BARRY MOORE, Alabama                 MARY GAY SCANLON, Pennsylvania
KEVIN KILEY, California              JOE NEGUSE, Colorado
HARRIET M. HAGEMAN, Wyoming          LUCY McBATH, Georgia
LAUREL M. LEE, Florida               DEBORAH K. ROSS, North Carolina
WESLEY HUNT, Texas                   BECCA BALINT, Vermont
RUSSELL FRY, South Carolina          JESUS G. ``CHUY'' GARCIA, Illinois
GLENN GROTHMAN, Wisconsin            SYDNEY KAMLAGER-DOVE, California
BRAD KNOTT, North Carolina           JARED MOSKOWITZ, Florida
MARK HARRIS, North Carolina          DANIEL S. GOLDMAN, New York
ROBERT F. ONDER, Jr., Missouri       JASMINE CROCKETT, Texas
DEREK SCHMIDT, Kansas
BRANDON GILL, Texas
MICHAEL BAUMGARTNER, Washington
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               SUBCOMMITTEE ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE STATE,
                    REGULATORY REFORM, AND ANTITRUST

                   SCOTT FITZGERALD, Wisconsin, Chair

DARRELL ISSA, California             JERROLD NADLER, New York, Ranking 
BEN CLINE, Virginia                      Member
LANCE GOODEN, Texas                  J. LUIS CORREA, California
HARRIET HAGEMAN, Wyoming             BECCA BALINT, Vermont
MARK HARRIS, North Carolina          JESUS G. ``CHUY'' GARCIA, Illinois
DEREK SCHMIDT, Kansas                ZOE LOFGREN, California
MICHAEL BAUMGARTNER, Washington      HENRY C. ``HANK'' JOHNSON, Jr., 
                                         Georgia

               CHRISTOPHER HIXON, Majority Staff Director
                ARTHUR EWENCZYK, Minority Staff Director
                            
                            C O N T E N T S

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                        Tuesday, March 17, 2026

                           OPENING STATEMENTS

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The Honorable Scott Fitzgerald, Chair of the Subcommittee on the 
  Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust from the 
  State of Wisconsin.............................................     1
The Honorable Jerrold Nadler, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee 
  on the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust 
  from the State of New York.....................................     3
The Honorable Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the Committee on 
  the Judiciary from the State of Maryland.......................     5

                               WITNESSES

Erika M. Douglas, Associate Professor of Law, Temple University
  Oral Testimony.................................................     8
  Prepared Testimony.............................................    11
Tony Rice, Senior Director, Trade Policy, National Milk Producers 
  Federation
  Oral Testimony.................................................    26
  Prepared Testimony.............................................    28
Richard Sicotte, Professor of Economics, University of Vermont
  Oral Testimony.................................................    38
  Prepared Testimony.............................................    40
Diana Moss, Vice President, Director, Competition Policy, 
  Progressive Policy Institute
  Oral Testimony.................................................    42
  Prepared Testimony.............................................    44

          LETTERS, STATEMENTS, ETC. SUBMITTED FOR THE HEARING

All materials submitted for the record by the Subcommittee on the 
  Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust are 
  listed below...................................................    65

Materials submitted by the Honorable Becca Balint, a Member of 
  the Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory 
  Reform, and Antitrust from the State of Vermont, for the record
    An article entitled, ``NY Fed report says Americans pay for 
        almost all of Trump's tariffs,'' Feb. 12, 2026, Reuters
    An article entitled, ``One-Third of Americans Cut Back to 
        Cover Healthcare Expenses,'' Mar. 12, 2026, Gallup
    An article entitled, ``Oil Rises, Bringing Gains to 40% Since 
        the Start of the War,'' Mar. 12, 2026, The New York Times

                                APPENDIX

Materials submitted by the Honorable Scott Fitzgerald, Chair of 
  the Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory 
  Reform, and Antitrust from the State of Wisconsin, and the 
  Honorable Jerrold Nadler, Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on 
  the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust from 
  the State of New York, for the record
    A document entitled, ``Ocean Freight Shipper Bill of 
        Rights,'' Mar. 2025, The National Industrial 
        Transportation League 
    A statement from The National Industrial Transportation 
        League, Mar. 25, 2026

                 QUESTIONS AND RESPONSES FOR THE RECORD

Questions and response for Tony Rice, Senior Director, Trade 
  Policy, National Milk Producers Federation, submitted by the 
  Honorable Ben Cline, a Member of the Subcommittee on the 
  Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust from the 
  State of Virginia, for the record

 
     PIER PRESSURE: REGULATION AND COMPETITION IN MARITIME SHIPPING

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                        Tuesday, March 17, 2026

                        House of Representatives

               Subcommittee on the Administrative State,

                    Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust

                       Committee on the Judiciary

                             Washington, DC

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10 a.m., in 
Room 2141, Rayburn House Office Building, the Hon. Scott 
Fitzgerald [Chair of the Subcommittee] presiding.
    Members present: Representatives Issa, Gooden, Harris, 
Nadler, Raskin, Balint, Lofgren, and Johnson.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. [Presiding.] The Subcommittee will come to 
order. Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare a 
recess at any time.
    We welcome everyone to today's hearing. Happy St. Patrick's 
Day.
    This hearing on regulation and competition in the maritime 
shipping industry is a Subcommittee hearing we have wanted to 
tackle for some time.
    I will now recognize myself for an opening statement.
    Today, we are here to examine the statutory antitrust 
exemption granted under the 1916 Shipping Act and its impact on 
competition and consumers. Since the earliest day of maritime 
shipping, ocean carriers have entered into cooperative 
agreements to coordinate freight capacity and global shipping 
routes. This was to ensure space abroad; a vessel didn't go 
unused, and ships would not be arriving at the same ports at 
the same time.
    Recognizing that these cooperative agreements, known as 
``conferences,'' could act to restrict or eliminate competition 
between rival shippers, Congress began studying the issue. What 
Congress concluded was that, while there were certainly 
anticompetitive aspects of these conferences, the benefits seem 
to outweigh any potential harm.
    In the words of a 1914 Alexander report, quote,

        To terminate the existing agreements would bring about two 
        results. The steamship lines would either engage in rate wars, 
        or to eliminate a costly struggle, they would consolidate 
        through common ownership.

    Congress' compromise came in the Shipping Act of 1916. As 
part of that compromise, ocean carriers could enter into 
collective agreements, so long as those agreements were filed 
with and overseen by a Federal regulator, which today is known 
as the Federal Maritime Commission, or the FMC.
    The industry today, however, looks very different from the 
one Congress confronted in 1916. In 1998, the top 20 ocean 
carriers controlled approximately 50 percent of the world's 
container slot capacity. By 2018, that number had almost 
doubled to nearly 90 percent. Today, three global shipping 
alliances together control nearly all transatlantic and 
transpacific trade.
    The intent behind the Shipping Act was also to advance the 
interests of American shippers. As one scholar had put it, 
``Both the original statute and the 1961 amendments are 
designed to protect and foster a strong American flag merchant 
marine.'' In other words, Congress wanted to protect American 
interests against discrimination by foreign shippers.
    Yet, today, the largest ocean shipping companies are all 
foreign-owned and controlled. In the list of the top 20 
container shipping companies by market cap, there is not a 
single U.S. company.
    The United States depends on foreign flag vessels for 97 
percent of its maritime trade. COSCO Shipping, one of the 
largest container shipping companies by market share, is owned 
and controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. That presents 
its own national security risks, which the House Committee on 
Homeland Security and the China Select Committee have been 
investigating.
    This concentration and coordination can exacerbate supply 
chain disruptions that would otherwise be more resilient when 
competition is robust. For example, during the COVID pandemic, 
freight rates for a container increased from $1,300 to as much 
as $11,000.
    When geopolitical crises have struck, such as the Russia-
Ukraine conflict, or more recently, the ongoing air strikes 
against the Iranian regime, ocean carriers have leveraged their 
monopoly power to charge detention and demurrage fees, 
surcharges, and other fees that should, instead, be charged by 
marine terminal operators.
    What would otherwise be unreasonable business practices in 
a competitive environment; it appears to be routine under these 
anticompetitive alliances. The result of the Shipping Act, as 
we have seen, may have, unfortunately, been precisely what 
Congress was hoping to avoid--concentration of foreign shipping 
companies, to the detriment of American businesses and 
consumers.
    When Congress granted the antitrust exemption, it tasked 
the Federal Maritime Commission with subjecting these ocean 
carrier agreements to antitrust scrutiny. However, as one of 
our witnesses will explain today, the FMC has never once 
brought a case against the powerful ocean shipping carriers 
that dominate shipping markets. Despite having the statutory 
authority to seek a judiciary remedy or monetary penalties, the 
FMC has never taken an enforcement action to challenge an 
agreement. Some will call this ``underenforcement.'' It could 
be called a dereliction.
    Over the years, the FMC has maintained the position that 
competition was vigorous among ocean carriers and their three 
major shipping alliances. Even after the COVID pandemic, in 
which the United States faced some of its greatest supply chain 
challenges, the FMC reported to Congress that, ``Competition 
among ocean common carriers, among the three major alliances, 
and among the members in each of these alliances is vigorous.''
    That argument is in tension with the position taken by 
Congress and the DOJ in recent years. When Congress passed the 
Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, it did so to alleviate 
concerns among businesses that ocean-carrying alliances were, 
quote, ``able to wield excessive power to prevent 
competition.'' Yet, despite Congress giving the FMC more 
authority to police the carriers in the terms of their 
agreements, it appears the agency is still sitting on its 
hands.
    The DOJ, meanwhile, has long maintained the position that 
antitrust exemption for ocean shipping is no longer justified, 
and has repeatedly submitted comments to the FMC expressing 
antitrust concerns over ocean carrier alliances.
    In 2016, for example, the DOJ submitted comments urging the 
FMC to oppose the proposed Ocean Alliance Agreement. In their 
comments, the DOJ stated that the agreement ``contemplates 
extensive cooperation among members and would grant the parties 
the ability to broadly coordinate service between routes, 
including the unfettered exchange of competitively sensitive 
information.''
    Additionally, the DOJ stated, ``The increase in 
concentration in the transpacific shipping market is presumed 
likely to enhance market power under the antitrust laws.'' 
Despite this warning, the FMC authorized the Ocean Alliance in 
2016, and has continued to extend the agreement, most recently, 
until March 2032.
    An economy based on vigorous competition protected by the 
antitrust laws does the best job of promoting consumer welfare 
and a vibrant, growing economy. Statutory antitrust exemptions 
are antithetical to those principles.
    As the bipartisan Antitrust Modernization Commission 
stated,``Statutory exemptions from the antitrust laws 
undermine, rather than upgrade, the competitiveness and 
efficiency of the U.S. economy.''
    When Congress grants immunity from antitrust scrutiny, we 
must do so selectively and with consumers in mind. When 
compelling evidence suggests consumers no longer benefit from 
an antitrust exemption, it is appropriate for Congress to 
reexamine whether it is still in the public interest to allow 
otherwise anticompetitive behavior to continue unchecked.
    That is why we are here today, to better understand the 
history of the Shipping Act and whether, after nearly 100 
years, it is still in the consumers' best interests.
    We will also hear today whether other government 
regulations, such as environmental regulations in international 
shipping, or restrictions in domestic maritime shipping, like 
the Jones Act, are negatively impacting shipping prices and 
harming consumers.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses and hearing 
what they have to say today. Thank you.
    I now recognize the Ranking Member, Mr. Nadler, for an 
opening statement.
    Mr. Nadler. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, in this 
senseless war, there is no defined goals and no end in sight. 
With gas prices skyrocketing and with an affordability crisis 
that is draining Americans' pocketbooks, and is only getting 
worse, a hearing to examine maritime shipping rules does not 
exactly meet the moment.
    The affordability crisis touches nearly every aspect of our 
lives. Staple grocery costs have risen more than three percent 
over the last year--causing many Americans to struggle just to 
put food on the table. The rent and mortgage payments are 
stretching families' budgets, with many young people priced out 
of the housing market altogether. Utilities are up an average 
of 12 percent from last year, and health insurance premiums 
have gone through the roof, especially after Republicans let 
critical subsidies expire. On top of all this, gas prices have 
risen sharply since Trump attacked Iran, and are climbing 
higher by the day.
    It is no wonder that consumer confidence is the lowest it 
has been since 2014. Americans are feeling the freeze, but 
Republicans have done nothing to ease their pain and many of 
their policies are only making it worse.
    The increased costs faced by consumers have been fueled in 
large part by the global trade war launched by President Trump 
last year, which has taken aim at friends and enemies alike. 
Instead of taking a targeted and thoughtful approach to trade 
that would protect American industries, workers, and consumers, 
Trump has taken a scattershot approach--imposing steep tariffs 
across the board that are driving up prices for American 
consumers and businesses, while doing very little to bring 
investment to our shores.
    By one estimate, American consumers have paid more than 
$230 billion in tariff costs since the Trump Administration 
began. That's more than $1,700 per family. Even though the 
Supreme Court has struck down some of the tariffs, significant 
others remain, and the refunds mandated by the courts will go 
to businesses, not consumers.
    At the same time, President Trump has taken this country to 
war with Iran--without making the case to the American public 
or seeking congressional authorization. Iran has now retaliated 
by shutting down the Strait of Hormuz, through which one-fifth 
of the world's oil supply travels--a response that comes as a 
surprise to no one, except Donald Trump. As a result, the price 
of oil is already over $100 a barrel and gas prices are 
skyrocketing.
    Rigorous enforcement of the antitrust laws could be a 
powerful tool in the effort to address the affordability 
crisis, but instead, this administration has corrupted the 
antitrust process--rewarding their political allies, punishing 
their perceived enemies, and firing the career professionals 
and other officials who have refused to cater to industry 
lobbyists or to carry out a toothless enforcement scheme.
    The ask of the senior leadership in the DOJ's Antitrust 
Division appears to have cleared the path for one of the most 
egregious examples of lax enforcement--the government's 
sweetheart deal with Live Nation-Ticketmaster. The monopolistic 
power of this company has been known ever since Live Nation and 
Ticketmaster first proposed merging in 2009. At the time, I 
urged my colleagues--I joined my colleagues in warning about 
the impact it would have on consumers. Although the merger was 
approved, I am sad to say that our concerns turned out to be 
well-founded.
    The millions of Americans have felt the effects of Live 
Nation-Ticketmaster's anticompetitive practices. When they 
bought a ticket to a concert, performed in a local production, 
or worked at an auditorium, they saw how the company drove up 
ticket prices, limited tour dates, or prevented other companies 
from entering the market.
    Given this awful record, I sought reexamination of the 
merger by the antitrust enforcers in 2021. Thankfully, in 2024, 
the Biden Administration and 40 State Attorneys General sued 
Live Nation-Ticketmaster for monopolizing markets across the 
live entertainment industry.
    At the time, I said, quote,

        Since its merger in 2010, Live Nation-Ticketmaster has engaged 
        in boldly anticompetitive practices at the expense of 
        consumers, entertainers, venues, and vendors. Instead of 
        cooperating with the terms of its consent decree with the 
        Department of Justice, the company has only grown more brazen 
        in its tactics to corner the primary and secondary ticket 
        markets.

    Despite having a slam-dunk case, days into trial, the Trump 
Administration suddenly settled the case for practically 
nothing--leaving venues, performers, and consumers out in the 
cold. The case was settled so abruptly that the judge even 
admonished the government and Live Nation-Ticketmaster for 
their quote, ``absolute disrespect for the court, the jury, and 
the entire process.''
    This case is not only the most recent, but also one of the 
most damning examples of how corrupt the Republican-controlled 
DOJ is. As one former antitrust official noted, ``You really 
couldn't send a clearer message that antitrust is dead at the 
Federal level than settling this particular case.''
    Thankfully, most of the State Attorneys General involved in 
the case dejected the settlement and vowed to continue the 
litigation. The Trump Administration, on the other hand, 
appears content to allow consumers to pay more for less.
    Such a sorry state of affairs cries out for congressional 
oversight, but the Republican majority has been silent, while 
the Trump Administration guts the antitrust enforcement 
agencies that should be protecting consumers, not companies.
    Mr. Chair, market consolidation, unpredictable tariffs, and 
the war in Iran are all driving prices up, but this hearing is 
designed to address none of these pressing issues. By all 
means, we should examine the maritime shipping industry at some 
point, but the affordability crisis is urgent right now, and it 
is growing worse. That is where our attention should lie today.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. We are waiting 
for Chair Jordan. I will now recognize the Ranking Member of 
the Full Committee, Mr. Raskin, for his opening statement.
    Mr. Raskin. Mr. Chair, thank you very much. Thanks to the 
witnesses for joining us today.
    A majority of Americans feel like they're getting priced 
out of Donald Trump's new gilded age in America. A third of 
Americans, around 82 million people, are skipping meals or 
basic healthcare to pay for utilities. Prices for food staples 
like eggs, sugar, and meat jumped up in 2025 and are climbing 
every day.
    Whether you rent or own, housing is becoming more 
unaffordable for the working middle class, while Donald Trump 
bulldozes the White House and throws ``Great Gatsby parties'' 
at Mar-a-Lago for his billionaire Cabinet and the fellow stars 
of the Epstein files.
    Forget owning a house, when three-quarters of Americans say 
that buying a new car is out of reach. If you have got a car, 
driving it is becoming ludicrously expensive, as gas prices 
have shot up 25 percent just in the last few weeks--with 
Trump's ``war of choice'' in the Middle East. Gas prices are 
soaring every day, as the theocrats of Iran retaliate by 
shutting down the shipment of oil through the Strait of Hormuz, 
and Donald Trump spends $2 billion a day on this war that we 
never declared and didn't even debate--putting it on America's 
imaginary credit card and driving up our deficit and our 
national debt.
    President Trump's impulsively stupid policies and the 
invertebrate response of Republicans in Congress have made life 
even more expensive and difficult for our people. Republicans 
refuse to address the healthcare crisis, and instead, chose to 
cut Medicaid and the tax credits that help make healthcare 
affordable and accessible to millions of people.
    Meantime, monopolies and corporate giants rule in Trump's 
economy. The MAGA-controlled agencies have waved through giant 
mergers in the real estate market, which means that you pay 
more for a home and have fewer options for buying one. They 
also settled slam-dunk rent price-fixing cases, where major 
landlords across America conspire to set the rent that you pay 
for your home, ensuring that they will get richer while you 
spend more on rental housing.
    Just last week, the DOJ OKed an obviously corrupt 
settlement of the Live Nation-Ticketmaster suit, which may 
appease MAGA's big business campaign funders, but will do 
nothing to lower the exorbitant prices that people pay to see 
live entertainment. The government originally accused Live 
Nation-Ticketmaster, a multibillion-dollar live-event business, 
of stifling competition, coercing artists and venues into using 
its services, and driving up ticket prices for millions of 
fans, while pocketing bloated profits. Under the Trump 
Administration, this years-long case has been quietly settled 
with no changes for the millions of American consumers, 
artists, venues, and competitors that this business injured and 
overcharged.
    President Trump promised that foreign countries, not 
Americans, would pay for his giant and illegal tariffs, and he 
promised that those tariffs would create jobs. Both promises 
turned out to be empty. President Trump's tariffs, which he 
applied unilaterally, haphazardly, and unevenly, of course, 
unconstitutionally--failed to create new jobs, and instead, 
effectively, taxed every American more than $2,500. A study by 
the Fed shows that 90 percent of these costs were paid by 
American companies and American consumers, not by China or any 
other foreign country.
    The resulting brutal affordability squeeze has landed most 
heavily on people who also lost critical social services, like 
SNAP food stamp benefits, children's health insurance, Medicaid 
and Medicare, and funding for rural hospitals--when House 
Republicans passed their One Big Ugly Class Warfare Bill.
    Our government actually has the agency tools needed to 
address the Trump affordability crisis, but Trump has either 
totally dismantled them or corrupted them. He has broken the 
agencies that protect us against fraud, scams, and financial 
conspiracies.
    He has fired any antitrust official who has disagreed with 
his policy of giving political allies a green light to swallow 
up their competitors. Last month, he abruptly dismissed 
Assistant Attorney General Gail Slater, who was often the only 
dissenting voice, as lobbyists in backrooms and White House 
insiders pushed mergers that are terrible for consumers and 
driving us toward an economy run by oligarchs.
    The Majority has conducted zero oversight of these 
antitrust corruption debacles--leaving it to the Democrats to 
invite as a witness Gail Slater's Deputy, Roger Alford, who was 
fired for raising concerns about rank pay-to-play corruption 
and self-dealing in the GOP-controlled antitrust agencies. 
Alford implored us in this room to conduct oversight of the 
Antitrust Division before it is too late for America. A two-
term Trump official, thus, begged us to do our jobs to protect 
the American people, but it has fallen on deaf ears among our 
colleagues.
    President Trump's policies and Republican inaction mean 
that today Americans cannot afford daily life, but Trump and 
the billionaire class are getting richer every day. Just four 
tech billionaires--Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos, and 
Jensen Huang--all whom donated to Trump's inauguration, they 
made $288 billion in less than one year. By contrast, the 
American people paid $2,500, on average, last year for higher 
prices, thanks just to the tariffs alone.
    The President has said that the affordability crisis is, 
quote, ``a hoax, a con job, a scam,'' but his illegal tariffs 
were the hoax. His claim to support release of the Epstein 
files is the con job, and his illegal unilateral war in Iran, 
which is costing us more than a billion dollars a day, and 13 
American lives already, and more than a thousand Iranian lives, 
including children, is the scam.
    The real fraud is President Trump's personal net worth 
going up $1.4 billion in his first year of his second term, and 
his son-in-law Jarad Kushner raking in $2 billion from the 
Saudis and more than $1.5 billion from Qatar, while exercising 
a lot more decision over the decision to go to war than any of 
the Members in this room did combined.
    What are we here today to discuss? An esoteric antitrust 
exemption about shipping. Now, in normal times, I might 
appreciate an examination of this or any other antitrust 
exemption, but these aren't normal times and this Majority 
isn't even prepared to reform the exemption in any event--
something I would certainly be open to discussing.
    The millions of Americans literally cannot afford now to 
get medicine or pay for housing or for groceries in Trump's 
economy. We must do everything we can to try to help the people 
now with the tools that are actually at our disposal. Instead, 
our Republican colleagues have called us here to discuss a 
niche antitrust exemption unlikely to change anytime soon.
    The ship of State is taking on water rapidly every day and 
starting to sink, but our colleagues want to have a debate 
about diversionary things. Count me out.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back.
    I would just make the comment that, as a namesake of Scott 
Fitzgerald, I thought it was a cheap shot that you brought up 
the ``Great Gatsby-style parties.''
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Raskin. I meant it only as the highest form of 
flattery. Right?
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Thank you. The gentleman yields back. 
Without objection, all other opening statements will be 
included in the record. We will now introduce today's 
witnesses.
    Professor Erika M. Douglas. Ms. Douglas is an Associate 
Professor of Law at Temple University's Beasley School of Law. 
Her scholarship focuses on antitrust, data privacy, and 
intellectual property law. Professor Douglas previously worked 
in private practice, where she focused on antitrust and 
technology-related matters.
    Mr. Tony Rice. Mr. Rice is senior director of trade policy 
at the National Milk Producers Federation, an association of 
dairy producers and cooperatives. Mr. Rice focuses on matters 
relating to U.S. dairy exports.
    Professor Richard Sicotte. Mr. Sicotte is an Assistant 
Professor in the Department of Economics at the University of 
Vermont. Professor Sicotte, his work focuses on economic 
history, industrial organization, political economy, and 
international economics.
    Ms. Diana Moss. Ms. Moss is a Vice President and the 
Director of Competition Policy at the Progressive Policy 
Institute. Her work focuses on antitrust enforcement and sector 
regulation.
    We welcome our witnesses and thank them for appearing 
today. We will begin by swearing you in. Would you please rise 
and raise your right hand?
    Do you swear or affirm under penalty of perjury that the 
testimony you are about to give is true and correct, to be the 
best of your knowledge, information, and belief, so help you 
God?
    Let the record reflect that the witnesses have answered in 
the affirmative. You can take your seat, please.
    Please know that your written testimony will be entered 
into the record in its entirety. Accordingly, we ask that you 
summarize your testimony in five minutes.
    Professor Douglas, you may begin.

                 STATEMENT OF ERIKA M. DOUGLAS

    Ms. Douglas. Thank you, Chair Fitzgerald, Ranking Member 
Nadler, and the distinguished Members of the Subcommittee.
    My name is Erika Douglas. I'm an Associate Professor of Law 
at Temple University in Philadelphia. I've been dedicated to 
antitrust law for over 15 years--first, in private practice, 
then at major law firms, and now, as a professor and leader at 
organizations like the ABA.
    My research examines how antitrust interacts with 
regulation. Ordinarily, antitrust law applies across the 
economy to prevent anticompetitive agreements among rivals. 
That is not the case in international ocean shipping. Antitrust 
law is blocked by Section 4307 of the Consolidated Shipping 
Act. This section shields certain agreements among rivals that 
are filed with the Federal Maritime Commission. This ocean 
shipping exemption is one of the oldest in antitrust law. It's 
not clear that it was ever justified, and it certainly is not 
today.
    Congress created this exemption based on the mistaken view 
that ocean shipping had special economics; that free 
competition would cause the industry to fall apart from 
overcapacity and rate wars. We've known for decades that this 
is not true.
    From the 1990s onward, ocean shipping has been increasingly 
deregulated. It has not led to industry collapse. Antitrust 
courts have long rejected the concept of ruinous competition. 
This German act rightly assumes that competition benefits the 
consumers that we're concerned about here today. Antitrust 
should coexist with ocean shipping regulation, just as it does 
with regulation in other industries, like airlines, 
telecommunications, and securities.
    The second reason for this exemption was to even the 
playing field for American carriers in international shipping 
competition. This rationale also no longer makes sense. There 
are no major American carriers left. The European Union has 
repealed its own shipping exemption. Today, the U.S. exemption 
serves only to shield foreign carriers from our antitrust 
laws--at the expense of American shippers and consumers.
    It's important to understand that, in place of the usual 
antitrust laws, ocean shipping has a partial substitute that is 
not being used. The FMC holds the exclusive statutory power to 
challenge ocean carrier agreements that result in an 
unreasonable reduction in service or increase in cost.
    My research shows that the FMC has never brought such a 
case, despite holding this power for over 40 years. This record 
suggests that the FMC tolerates greater competitive risk than 
would antitrust law, although the agency's analysis often lacks 
transparency.
    This legal landscape is concerning to me as an antitrust 
scholar because the ocean shipping industry bears at least 
three classic hallmarks of antitrust risk.
    First, it's highly concentrated. The industry is dominated 
by three major alliances which account for up to 95 percent of 
ocean shipping. As recently as 2011, this figure was only 30 
percent. Concentration increases the risk of antitrust 
violations by making collusions easier.
    Second, ocean shipping has an unusual web of agreements 
among competitors. The FMC has over 360 agreements on file. The 
big three alliance agreements allow rivals to decide jointly on 
the volume of cargo they ship and when vessels are deployed. 
The First Circuit recently confirmed that a similar agreement 
between airlines violated Section 1 of the Sherman Act.
    Finally, there's recent collusion in this industry. Where 
antitrust jurisdiction remains, the DOJ has been vigilant in 
bringing criminal charges. Carriers have colluded in the 
shipment of vehicles and farm equipment, and price-fixed in 
food and medicine shipped to Puerto Rico. These cartels harm 
any American consumer who buys goods that travel by ship. These 
factors create a perfect storm for anticompetitive conduct. If 
there's consensus around one issue in antitrust trust, it's 
that these sorts of exemptions are rarely justified.
    I would encourage you to consider the repeal of the arcane 
ocean shipping exemption to free antitrust law to protect 
American shippers, ports, and consumers from these risks.
    Thank you.
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    Mr. Fitzgerald. Thank you, Professor Douglas. Mr. Rice, you 
may begin.

                     STATEMENT OF TONY RICE

    Mr. Rice. Chair Fitzgerald, Ranking Member Nadler, and the 
Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to 
testify before you today on the maritime supply chain 
challenges faced by the U.S. dairy industry. Having spent 18 or 
so years milking cows on my Pennsylvania dairy farm that my 
family runs today, this is a true honor.
    My name is Tony Rice, and I serve as the Senior Director of 
Trade Policy for the U.S. Dairy Export Council and the National 
Milk Producers Federation, where I lead supply chain policy 
development for both organizations.
    America's dairy farmers and the communities they support 
depend on reliable access to global markets--with roughly 17 
percent of production reaching international customers last 
year in the form of cheese, whey proteins, or other dairy 
ingredients.
    As most dairy products are perishable, maintaining product 
integrity throughout the global supply chain is critical. 
Shipping disruptions risk compromising product quality and 
eroding the confidence that overseas customers play in U.S. 
dairy products.
    While North America is our most important market, a growing 
volume of our exports is reaching overseas customers via 
oceangoing vessels. With the U.S.-flagged oceangoing fleet 
representing only 2.3 percent of global shipping capacity, U.S. 
dairy exporters are almost wholly dependent on foreign entities 
to transport their products.
    Today, less than a dozen shipping companies dominate the 
industry, and most operate within just three large carrier 
alliances. While these alliances can create operational 
efficiencies for carriers, this also means that exporters have 
fewer options when selecting shipping services and less 
leverage when negotiating service terms.
    To counter this trend, we support efforts to strategically 
invest in the domestic maritime sector, including enhancing 
capacity for American shipbuilding to strengthen the resilience 
of our supply chains by offering exporters more options.
    Simultaneously, Congress should consider permitting reform 
to expedite new shipyard capacity and investments in mariner 
workforce education and training.
    Conversely, U.S. dairy exporters are very concerned that 
foreign ocean carriers are likely to pass through costs 
associated with proposed port fees on foreign-flagged, owned, 
or operated ships. In a normal supply environment, additional 
fees would incentivize dairy exporters to select U.S.-flagged 
carriers instead. Unfortunately, U.S. dairy exporters have 
little choice than to contract with a foreign carrier and 
likely assume responsibility for any penalty fees--putting them 
at a competitive disadvantage to other global suppliers. We 
urge the U.S. Government to carefully evaluate the effects of 
these penalties on U.S. agricultural exporters.
    The pandemic exposed structural imbalances in international 
shipping networks, that shippers face extremely limited 
container availability, high-port congestion, and unpredictable 
vessel schedules. In 2021 alone, our industry lost over $1.5 
billion due to missed sales opportunities, reduced product 
values, and sharply higher costs associated with unreliable 
shipping services.
    Frankly, the worst of these issues have abated, but some 
underlying problems remain. The persistent issue of unreliable 
ocean carrier schedules and limited accountability is an 
ongoing source of frustration. While the delays are due to a 
number of factors, including weather and port congestion, a 
shrinking number of carrier options exacerbates the situation--
with exporters rarely receiving sufficient information about 
why a booking was rolled or delayed.
    Ocean carriers also maintain control of containers and set 
limits on the availability and use of chassis which adds costs 
and constrains trucking, drayage, and scheduling options for 
export shippers.
    We commend the FMC for launching an investigation in 
January into whether the ocean carriers have been unreasonably 
restricting truckers and shippers from their choice of chassis 
providers. Continued FMC oversight is critical to provide a 
fairer market for U.S. exporters.
    Dairy farmers milk their cows 365 days a year. For a 
producer in Wisconsin, these supply chain challenges are not 
abstract policy concerns. When export shipments are delayed, 
canceled, or become expensive to move, the disruptions ripple 
back through the supply chain and, ultimately, affect farm 
income.
    To ensure competitiveness now, we urge the FMC to maintain 
strong oversight over foreign ocean carriers and alliances, and 
to enforce the law with respect to reasonable service, and 
ensure adequate transparency, particularly regarding schedule 
changes and equipment availability. To enable more options, we 
support efforts to restore an American maritime industry.
    As Congress deliberates these important issues, we 
encourage focus on how the ocean carrier market is meeting the 
needs of U.S. exporters. Since foreign-owned ocean carriers 
receive antitrust exemptions, it is only reasonable that they 
treat U.S. exporters fairly.
    I appreciate the opportunity to provide comments on these 
important issues, and I look forward to your questions. Thank 
you.
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    Mr. Fitzgerald. Thank you, Mr. Rice. Professor Sicotte, you 
may begin.

                  STATEMENT OF RICHARD SICOTTE

    Mr. Sicotte. Thank you. Chair Fitzgerald, Ranking Member 
Nadler, and the Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for 
inviting me to testify today on regulation and competition in 
ocean shipping.
    I'm a Professor of Economics at the University of Vermont, 
areas of specialization in industrial organization and economic 
history. Drawing on my experience researching the shipping 
industry and its regulation, my goal is to bring an economic 
perspective to the matters before the Committee today.
    The Shipping Act of 1916 authorized the predecessor of the 
Federal Maritime Commission to approve cartel conference 
agreements in ocean shipping, and those agreements so approved 
would be immune from the antitrust laws--conference agreements, 
fixed rates, coordinated capacity, and sometimes the firms 
pooled revenues. Subsequent amendments to the Shipping Act, 
effectively, prohibited rate-fixing, but still permit firms to 
cooperate intensively in matters of capacity and operations.
    Shipping agreements must be submitted to the Federal 
Maritime Commission, which, quoting to its 2024 report, 
``analyzes these agreements for potential anticompetitive 
effects.'' The FMC reported that, at the end of Fiscal Year 
2024, there were 360 agreements, 50 of which were subject to 
staff monitoring.
    From the perspective of U.S. foreign commerce, one could 
argue that the most important kinds of agreements are the space 
charter agreements, vessel-sharing agreements, and shipping 
alliances. First, the space charter agreements, are when one 
firm rents space on another firm's ships. Vessel-sharing 
agreements are between two or more firms that use space on one 
another's vessels and they coordinate capacity. Alliances are 
described by the FMC as ``large VSAs'' which are nearly global 
in scope.
    These agreements provides the backdrop for the adoption of 
very large capacity container ships, frequently more than 
10,000 20-foot equivalent units on a ship, sometimes twice that 
amount. The trend in the industry is toward ever-larger ships.
    According to the FMC, Fiscal Year 2024, nearly 90 percent 
of U.S. transatlantic and transpacific water-borne commerce was 
carried by members of these three shipping alliances. There has 
been some realignment among these firms over the past 18 
months, so that MSC, a former alliance member, is no longer in 
alliance, and another firm joined in a new alliance that was 
approved.
    These are challenging economic questions--there are 
challenging economic questions surrounding these agreements and 
their effects.
    First, if agreements jointly fix capacity, then they can 
exercise market power, even though they do not explicitly 
collude on rates.
    Second, such close cooperation and information-sharing can 
facilitate collusion, tacit or otherwise. A commonly shared 
view among the industry, in particular, is that alliances and 
vessel-sharing agreements enable firms to achieve economies of 
scale and enjoy cost savings that might be passed on, at least 
in part, to consumers.
    Measuring the efficiency gains that might exist and 
quantifying the potential market power or exercise of market 
power are really within the expertise of industrial 
organization economists. In the context of other industries, 
these same issues are analyzed by economists at the Department 
of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission, whether in the 
context of mergers, cartels, or vertical restraints.
    There is very little in the public record that sheds light 
on the kinds of analysis being conducted by FMC staff on these 
agreements. I don't really understand what kind of economic 
analysis they're engaged in. We know that they're monitoring; 
we don't know what that entails.
    I think that the other witnesses have already spoken to 
some of the--for example, Professor Douglas spoke about the 
FMC's lack of enforcement of antitrust. They have yet to block 
or enjoin any carrier agreement. They acknowledge competitive 
concerns, but it's unclear what's actually being done about 
them.
    Reasonable reform, in my view, would be that the review of 
interfirm agreements in ocean shipping be carried out by 
professionals at the DOJ or FTC, and that they are able to 
access essential data that only the FMC has access to, so that 
they can carry out that kind of analysis.
    I look forward to your questions.
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    Mr. Fitzgerald. Mr. Sicotte, thank you so much. Dr. Moss, 
you may begin.

                    STATEMENT OF DIANA MOSS

    Ms. Moss. Thank you. Chair Fitzgerald, Ranking Member 
Nadler, and the Members of the Subcommittee, it's an honor to 
be here today.
    PPI advocates for pragmatic competition policies that 
champion the economic prospects and outlook for working 
Americans. Any conversation about the importance of the U.S. 
antitrust laws or exemptions to those laws would be incomplete 
without considering the broader role or competition in 
antitrust enforcement as a major tool for protecting consumers.
    Consumers are the backbone of the U.S. economy. Almost 70 
percent of spending in the economy in the first quarter of 2024 
was attributable to personal consumption expenditures. Sensible 
competition policy and strong antitrust enforcement are major 
tools for protecting those consumers from the exercise of 
market power that drives up prices, lowers quality, stifling 
innovation, and limits choice and market access.
    The U.S. antitrust laws protect consumers by ensuring that 
they are not harmed by anticompetitive mergers, and business 
practices that squeeze out smaller rivals, and fixing prices or 
dividing up markets. The importance of those laws is widely 
acknowledged by both Democrats and Republicans.
    The bipartisan Antitrust Modernization Commission 
established by Congress in 2002 explained that, ``The rule of 
laws stand as a bulwark to protect free market competition'' 
and ``prohibit anticompetitive restraints that harm consumer 
welfare.''
    In legislating antitrust exemptions, Congress has weighed 
the harm to competition and consumers against the benefits of 
achieving broader economic, social, or regulatory goals. The 
evidence on the benefits of immunities and exemptions is 
increasingly negative, because most of the markets that are 
immunized from liability under the antitrust laws are now 
highly concentrated. For example, the top four container 
shippers control 60 percent of the global market, but the three 
big alliances or conferences control up to 90 percent of the 
global market.
    In airlines, domestic mergers have, similarly, increased 
the global control of immunized international alliances. At 
these levels of concentration, anticompetitive consolidation 
and conduct would be considered presumptively illegal under the 
antitrust laws.
    The benefits of exemptions accrue to a few powerful 
companies, but their costs affect a wide swath of consumers. 
Sixty percent of the world's commodities pass through global 
shipping lanes, and transportation costs, more generally, 
highly impact the final prices of consumer commodities shipped 
into the United States.
    Suffice it to say that Congress has the power to revisit 
antitrust exemptions, especially for the Shipping Act--to roll 
them back; to narrow them, or to make sure that they sunset 
rapidly.
    Let me finish with two other developments that, much like 
antitrust exemptions, raise concerns that antitrust enforcement 
can't or isn't doing enough for consumers.
    First, a recent PPI report finds that, in food, healthcare, 
housing, transportation, and insurance, merger enforcement has 
historically been at levels that are far below the all-sector 
average. This needs to change.
    Second, more recently, premature settlements in antitrust 
cases have become the norm. Fully litigated trials and strong 
remedies, like injunctions and breakups for restoring 
competition, would have served consumers far better in lowering 
prices, but settlements we are seeing could even harm consumers 
more, including in the Hewlett Packard-Juniper Networks merger; 
the Live Nation-Ticket-master monopolization case, and the 
RealPage anticompetitive price-fixing case.
    Finally, the ability of U.S. companies to compete globally 
is at risk. Aside from directly raising prices to consumers to 
the tune of billions and billions of dollars over the last 
year, IEEPA tariffs on imported commodities raise the costs of 
U.S. companies, making their goods less competitive relative to 
foreign alternatives. Retaliatory tariffs have decimated 
certain sectors, like soybeans, by eliminating markets for 
exports that U.S. farmers rely on for long-term income security 
and stability.
    The foregoing policies undermine competition and consumers. 
Congress has the power to revoke outdated and harmful antitrust 
exemptions and ensure that the DOJ and FTC uphold due process 
and the rule of law; that competition remains healthy; that the 
laws rein-in market power, and we keep the cost of living down 
for millions of American workers and consumers.
    I appreciate the opportunity to submit testimony for this 
hearing, and I look forward to answering your questions.
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    Mr. Fitzgerald. Thank you, Dr. Moss. We will now proceed 
under the--minute rule with questions.
    I want to recognize the gentleman from Texas for five 
minutes.
    Mr. Gooden. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Professor Douglas, it has 
been pointed out that the FMC hasn't done a great job of 
regulating anticompetitive practices. Would it benefit if we 
consolidated more of those functions--enforcement functions 
rather--into the DOJ or the FTC?
    Ms. Douglas. If you repealed the exemption, the DOJ and FTC 
would have those enforcement functions that the FMC is not 
using.
    Mr. Gooden. Do you have a position on that?
    Ms. Douglas. Yes. That the repealed exemption is something 
that a lot of people would support, and I definitely support.
    If I can dig in a bit more to what you're asking, I'm not 
necessarily saying that the FMC's power has to change, but the 
additive power from the DOJ and FTC by repealing the exemption 
would be beneficial here, because we're not seeing a lot of 
enforcement.
    Mr. Gooden. Are there current policies or regulatory 
loopholes that the big three alliances are using or exploiting 
that you're aware of?
    Ms. Douglas. It's not a loophole, in that it's permitted 
under the Shipping Act right now. Under 4307, antitrust law 
does not apply to these big three shipping companies. In that 
sense, it's a matter of the law permitting it right now because 
of the exemption.
    Mr. Gooden. Thank you. Mr. Rice, going back to the issue of 
collusion, how do these issues affect every day American 
households?
    Mr. Rice. Sure. Thank you, Congressman, for the question.
    As we've seen for our dairy producers and exporters, the 
highly consolidated nature of the shipping industry creates 
headaches for us, due to inefficiencies that arise. It's not 
wholly the fault of carriers, as we see port congestion and 
weather delays, but the shrinking number, as Mr. Sicotte has 
pointed out, the shrinking number of available options just 
limits the availability of carriers for our exporters and our 
producers to move their product overseas.
    Mr. Gooden. Mr. Sicotte, what changes to the current 
regulatory framework would you propose, short of a full removal 
of the antitrust exemption?
    Mr. Sicotte. Short of a full removal, I would recommend 
that the FMC be required to share its confidential service 
contract data with the DOJ or FTC, and if the DOJ reviews an 
agreement, which they should have the right to do, that those 
objections have to be responded to publicly in a way that we 
can understand what the FMC is doing. That would be a minimum.
    Mr. Gooden. It also doesn't seem like they are lots of 
American ship companies banging down our doors asking for this.
    Mr. Sicotte. Well, there are, in terms of ocean shipping 
carriers, zero, right? They were absorbed into foreign shipping 
companies over the past 30 years, 40 years--30 or 40 years. 
There used to be two very large ones, but that's true.
    Mr. Gooden. I will close with you, Dr. Moss. My 
constituents aren't banging down my door about this issue. I 
suspect my colleagues on the Left would say the same thing. Do 
you have anything you would add? It seems like everyone's 
getting toward the same page here.
    Ms. Moss. I do think consumers care significantly about 
their cost of living.
    Mr. Gooden. Sure, absolutely.
    Ms. Moss. We know this to be a serious problem.
    Consumers are smart enough to understand that their 
commodities, especially the big-spend items in their budget, on 
food and commodities, anything that goes into building or 
construction, are really affected by immunities and exemptions. 
They drive up the cost, and they drive up the final prices to 
consumers.
    I've talked to a lot of consumers all the time and they are 
aware of these policies. When I say, ``Did you know that the 
antitrust laws don't apply in this particular sector?'' they 
get very angry.
    Mr. Gooden. It sounds crazy, right? Yes.
    Thank you. I appreciate you all. I yield back to the Chair 
my time.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. We now 
recognized Mr. Nadler from New York for five minutes.
    Mr. Nadler. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Professor Douglas, we have read countless stories about 
reported corruption in the DOJ. This Subcommittee heard 
testimony from the former second-in-command of the Antitrust 
Division, Roger Alford, after he was fired for pushing back 
against this corruption, about how mergers and settlements in 
the Trump Administration increasingly involve backroom deals, 
creating a pay-to-play system. What effect does this kind of 
corruption of the rule of law have on the market, and what does 
that mean for consumers?
    Ms. Douglas. Thank you for this important question.
    I am gravely concerned by reports of political influence 
peddling in antitrust agencies. I work on the rule of law, and 
I don't think it should ever be displaced by political 
favoritism in antitrust law, or otherwise. I want to commend 
the Subcommittee from hearing from Roger Alford and important 
voices on this issue.
    That's all that I can say on it for right now. Thank you.
    Mr. Nadler. Thank you.
    Dr. Moss, can you answer the same question? What is the 
impact on the market and consumers of this kind of pay-to-play 
corruption? Is there anything that Professor Douglas missed?
    Ms. Moss. Professor Douglas summed it up quite nicely. We 
are in a troubling new era where antitrust enforcement has been 
politicized and weaponized. There appear to be two channels. 
One is to go directly to the White House with your deal to 
grease the skids for antitrust review. The other channel is for 
what appears to be political interference to swoop in and to 
commandeer cases to create premature settlements that reward 
companies, powerful companies, and harm consumers and workers 
in the markets that are affected.
    Antitrust is a key tool, as I've stated, for protecting 
competition, consumers, workers, paychecks, and pocketbooks, if 
you will. If it does not function, if we lose due process, and 
if we sacrifice the rule of law, we are harming millions and 
millions of American workers and consumers, and we are going to 
decimate our economy in the process.
    Mr. Nadler. Can you give us some examples?
    Ms. Moss. Absolutely. Of course, the worst, which has 
already been referenced, is the Live Nation-Ticketmaster deal. 
A very surprised and angry judge, a very surprised and angry 
set of 40 States plus D.C., who were locked out of a 
settlement. The settlement does nothing--nothing--to reduce the 
market power of Live Nation-Ticketmaster in ticketing, in 
concert promotion, in exclusive contracts with venues.
    The bad conduct will continue. We have a long history of 
bad conduct and violation of past decrees by the company. This 
will do nothing to lower the monopoly ticket fees to millions 
of fans. It will steer everybody back to the Live Nation-
Ticketmaster platform for 20 more years of monopolistic 
conduct.
    The same thing with Hewlett Packard. Under Gail Slater, she 
was prepared to--DOJ--go to court to enjoin that merger, which 
would have created a duopoly and local area networks. Another 
premature settlement, ineffective remedy, that will do nothing 
to keep costs down for American businesses.
    I could go on. I could go on, but those are two very 
leading examples.
    Mr. Nadler. Thank you.
    Dr. Moss, this hearing has been called to examine 
competition in the maritime shipping industry. Can you compare 
the impact of reforms in this area to the impact of addressing 
the cost of Trump's tariffs, the doubling of healthcare 
premiums, or the recent surge in gas prices?
    Ms. Moss. I would say the issue of immunities and 
exemptions is very important. Any abstention or exception or 
immunity from enforcing the antitrust laws and holding 
companies liable under the antitrust laws does an enormous 
disservice to competition, to our market economy, to our 
consumers and workers.
    In the broader scheme of things, we are probably talking 
about a drop in the bucket relative to the over $400 billion of 
additional costs that Americans have absorbed as a result of 
tariffs within an incredibly compressed, short period of time.
    We are really looking at a very macropicture in terms of 
adverse impact of policies on consumers and a very, very micro, 
surgical policy through repealing or rolling back the shipping 
exemption. The two really do not compare. We need a more 
holistic approach to how to protect our consumers and our 
workers.
    Mr. Nadler. Thank you, Dr. Moss. I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. We now recognize 
the gentleman from North Carolina for five minutes.
    Mr. Harris. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you to all of you 
on the panel for your presence and your expertise today.
    Mr. Rice, as someone who represents a district where 
agriculture is a prominent industry in North Carolina, I'm 
always worried about ways in which this anticompetitive 
behavior in the ocean shipping industry can harm producers, as 
I know you have expressed as well. Can you take just a few 
moments and explain the impact that the alliance system is 
having on agricultural exporters?
    Mr. Rice. Well, certainly, thank you, Congressman.
    To give you a bit of an example, the worst of these supply 
chain issues happened during the pandemic. As I mentioned 
before, our exporters are wholly dependent on foreign ocean 
carriers. While the Shipping Act prevents them from 
unreasonably refusing to deal with us, it doesn't prevent them 
from rolling a booking, moving it onto the next ship, not 
giving transparency into why a shipping was rolled.
    For example, one of our exporters had a container destined 
for Asia. It was rolled so many times that the original ship 
that it had been scheduled to sail on had went to Asia and came 
back, and that's the one that picked up the container.
    There's one piece of this that, yes, some of these 
alliances, they do create some operational efficiencies, but at 
the same time, Congress saw fit, when passing the Shipping Act, 
that if these carriers are to receive antitrust exemptions, 
they have to provide reasonable access for U.S. exporters and 
ensure efficiency.
    It's hard to reconcile when we saw 70 percent of some of 
these carriers carrying--70 percent of the ship would be empty 
containers, while our exports would be left on the dock during 
the height of the pandemic. Now, those, thankfully, have abated 
since then, but we do see these issues with transparency, and a 
lack thereof, into why decisions are made; why sailings are 
canceled or blanked. It creates a ton of logistical issues for 
our industry who is exporting perishable products that need to 
get to an end consumer in a timely fashion.
    Mr. Harris. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Rice, while we are there, in April 2025, the Trump 
Administration released a Maritime Action Plan with a goal of 
really restoring America's maritime dominance. The plan seeks 
to really revitalize U.S. shipbuilding and rebuild the maritime 
workforce. Can you give us your thoughts on how this plan would 
help to address the problems that the American, particularly 
American dairy exporters and other agricultural exporters, are 
currently facing with the ocean shipping?
    Mr. Rice. Certainly. Investment in the U.S. shipbuilding 
industry, as I mentioned, is sorely overdue. For example, 
Chinese shipbuilders build 230 times the number of ships per 
year as the United States. It's very troublesome that we just 
don't have an industry here in the United States to produce 
these container ships that we need.
    Yes, supporting investment in the shipbuilding capacity, 
streamlining the permitting, and reforms at shipyards and 
ports--there's a long backlog of maintenance and expansion 
issues at the ports themselves that need to be addressed.
    The one thing I mentioned in my remarks as well, in 
developing a plan to fund these programs, we just think it 
warrants careful consideration of any penalty fees that are put 
on foreign ships to make sure that the people who are actually 
paying it aren't American exporters.
    Mr. Harris. Well, thank you.
    Ms. Douglas, as you note in your testimony, the Federal 
Maritime Commission, or FMC, rarely brings cases against the 
ocean shipping carriers that dominate shipping markets, despite 
having the legal authority to do so. Can you kind of help us 
dive into that, of how lack of transparency over the FMC's 
competitive analysis of ocean shipping agreements could be 
contributing to the FMC's lack of challenges to ocean carrier 
agreements?
    I'll follow that up and give you the rest of my time. What 
would be the possible effects of having the DOJ work with the 
FMC to scrutinize ocean shipping agreements?
    Ms. Douglas. Right. The lack of challenges seems to suggest 
that there's either not analysis happening or analysis that's 
happening that tolerates greater anticompetitive harm than 
antitrust law.
    What Professor Sicotte and I are both saying is it's not 
clear how the FMC is coming to these conclusions. Because from 
the outside perspective, it's a concentrated industry that, 
we've heard from industry here, is dominated by a few 
companies, and has had a number of cartels that have been 
prosecuted where the exemption doesn't apply.
    We would need to know how these agreements are being 
implemented in fact. That's something that antitrust law can 
get at. If DOJ could do an investigation, the rule of reason 
looks carefully at these sorts of claims that maybe there's 
some efficiencies here; maybe there isn't. There are a lot of 
different provisions in these agreements, but as written, we 
can't really tell what's going on.
    Mr. Harris. All right. Thank you very much. Mr. Chair, I 
yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. I now recognize 
the Ranking Member of the Full Committee, Mr. Raskin, for five 
minutes.
    Mr. Raskin. Thank you, Chair Fitzgerald.
    Dr. Moss, President Trump promised to lower prices on day 
one. What has actually happened since day one, and how are 
American families faring?
    Ms. Moss. Thank you for the question.
    Nothing has happened. In fact, things have gone the other 
way. The promise to lower prices on day one was really lip 
service to a broader political strategy.
    Consumers have been under assault for years by growing 
concentration in really critical consumer-facing sectors. 
Consumers spend 75 percent of their budgets on food, 
transportation, housing, healthcare, and insurance. Those are 
highly concentrated industries that needed direct attention and 
support for very, very strong enforcement, which we have not 
gotten under this current administration.
    Consumers are really buckling under the burden of high 
prices from excessive market power, from supply chain 
instability, from inflation. That should be a No. 1 goal. 
Consumers support the economy. They are the backbone of the 
economy. Without them, we will not have a robust, functioning 
economy.
    Mr. Raskin. People instinctively understand the way that 
corruption and insider political influence end up harming 
consumers and driving up prices. I wonder, is it also the case 
that, when we allow combinations to form and conglomerates to 
take over the economy, that this increases corruption and it 
increases political inequality and injuries to democracy.
    Ms. Moss. Yes. The purpose of the antitrust laws, of 
course, is to promote competition in the economy; to prevent 
the concentration of market power. The antitrust laws really 
address directly the economic effects of high concentration and 
a lack of competition.
    What you're getting at is a really important connection 
between economic power and political power. There is a direct 
link there. The importance of antitrust enforcement in 
controlling economic power, excessive economic power, does link 
directly into controlling excessive political power. Of course, 
political power can lead down a number of different pathways. 
That's what we're seeing right now.
    Mr. Raskin. You can get into a vicious cycle where economic 
concentration increases political concentration of power, and 
then, that further deepens the ability to manipulate the 
economy for particular groups?
    Ms. Moss. That is correct. I would just add a really 
important point. These precedents are now being set for the 
first time in the United States, this type of weaponization and 
politicization of the antitrust process.
    This administration will not be here forever. There will be 
other administrations. The setting of those precedents as they 
exist now can--it really spells a very, very dismal and 
concerning future for our antitrust establishment and law 
enforcement in the U.S.
    Mr. Raskin. The shipping antitrust exemption which we are 
discussing today has actually been studied and debated 
extensively, and even reformed repeatedly, as recently as 2022. 
Can you name some of the other anticompetitive policies and 
problems today orchestrated by the Trump Administration that 
are doing a lot more damage to American consumers than the 
shipping exemption?
    Ms. Moss. Sure. One thing that the Trump Administration 
did, as part of its order to realign regulation, to eliminate 
anticompetitive relation--anticompetitive regulations, was to 
really gut the ability of the U.S. Department of Agriculture to 
collect data, to do analysis that would have really supported 
competition initiatives in our food supply chains.
    We see independent cattle ranchers, for example, being 
pushed out, priced out of the market by large, industrialized 
players and the packer cartel.
    The inability of USDA to collect data has completely 
undercut the agency's important authority to police competition 
and--
    Mr. Raskin. Was the purpose of elimination of the data 
collection function?
    Ms. Moss. I believe the--eliminating the data collection 
was designed, potentially, to undercut the ability of the 
agency to function properly and support competition in our food 
and--
    Mr. Raskin. Is that happening in other agencies and 
departments, too?
    Ms. Moss. It absolutely is. In housing--I referenced the 
Real-
Page settlement--we really needed a court decision on what 
constitutes algorithmic price-fixing on a digital platform. We 
didn't get that because that case was settled.
    Mr. Raskin. Thank you. I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. I recognize 
myself for five minutes.
    Ms. Douglas, you list several examples in your testimony of 
how the ocean carrier agreements could raise significant 
anticompetitive risks. Can you talk about that a little bit 
more?
    Ms. Douglas. Yes. We understand what these agreements look 
like as written. My written testimony talks about what they 
might look like as implemented.
    If carriers can't agree on scheduling, that means they 
could also allocate different markets to each other. That's a 
classic antitrust law violation.
    It's also possible that there could be an exercise of 
monopsony or buyer power against ports in the United States, 
because these agreements allow these companies to collectively 
negotiate, where previously they would have been individual 
buyers.
    Particularly, on the idea of scheduling, enabling market 
allocation, we have a close parallel in the airline industry, 
right? Another transportation industry where we have seen that 
a scheduling agreement in U.S. v. American Airlines, which is a 
2024 case, a scheduling agreement caused a decrease in 
capacity. It caused the competitors who made that agreement to 
decide to fly less planes.
    What I'm saying is you would have to look at how these 
agreements are being implemented in shipping to figure out if 
that is also occurring here, if there's a capacity reduction 
here, or if there's market division happening here.
    The other big risk that I highlight in my written testimony 
is that these companies are allowed to share extensively 
competitively sensitive information. Normally, rivals don't 
share with each other their future plans for the market. These 
agreements allow alliances to engage in that sort of sharing. 
It's not itself a violation, but it's a classic factor that in 
antitrust law we look at to say that, if companies can talk 
with each other about their competitive plans, that's likely to 
reduce their rivalry in the market and lead to higher prices.
    Thank you.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Let me just followup then. How should DOJ 
view these agreements? What should they be looking for? What 
would prompt them to take action on some of these agreements?
    Ms. Douglas. Right. If the DOJ were to look at these 
agreements under the rule of reason, they would be looking at 
whether they unreasonably limit competition relative to a free 
and fair open market without the agreements.
    They would want to look at how these companies are 
scheduling their services relative to how they might be 
scheduled if the market was competitive, if it didn't have 
those agreements in place. They might look, for example--and 
this is purely something that's taken from the airline case--
are these companies sending as many ships as close in time as 
they would if they didn't have this agreement? Are they sending 
fewer ships or ships with less capacity? Is there this capacity 
reduction or market allocation, which are, again, classic 
violations of antitrust law under the Sherman Act? The DOJ 
would have to look at how these agreements are being 
implemented in practice to make that fact-specific evaluation.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Very good. Thank you.
    Mr. Rice, so given that the top three alliances control 
over 80 percent of the market, as you spoke about earlier, do 
you think that provides ocean carriers with market power over 
importing and exporting companies? Is this simply another fact 
or a piece of data that doesn't necessarily have that effect? 
Where do you think that falls?
    Mr. Rice. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Yes, certainly the consolidation within the ocean carrier 
industry does create challenges in the power that they amass. 
For example, there might be a dairy exporter from Wisconsin 
sending only three or four containers a month, and they have 
little to no leverage in those negotiations with one of three 
alliances. That component is concerning.
    The other component is, to some of the other witnesses who 
have testified about this, is the ability for these alliances 
to coordinate on overcapacity now that there's new ships coming 
online. Limiting capacity creates problems for exporters as 
well in the number of options that we have to get the 
containers to their end destination.
    It's a number of factors, but the amassing, and it 
continues to accumulate. This is not a static thing. These 
alliances continue to consolidate and create additional market 
power that our exporters have struggled to gain any leverage in 
negotiations with.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Very good. My time has expired. We will go 
to the gentlewoman from Vermont for five minutes.
    Ms. Balint. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Yup.
    Ms. Balint. Competition brings down prices, right? When we 
don't have real competition, then executives and investors get 
to reap more profits, and everyone else gets sticker shock. 
That is partly why this area of the law is so interesting to 
me.
    Because lack of competition in all industries impacts 
people in their bottom line. Dr. Moss, you spoke to that really 
directly. This includes maritime shipping.
    Although this may be a small aspect of what is increasing 
cost, it is important for us to look at this. It is why 
antitrust law matters.
    I know that antitrust law can seem dry; it can seem 
complicated, and I get that. To your point, Dr. Moss, American 
consumers understand that, when there are only a few big 
players, regardless of the industry, they pay the price for 
that. It is at the heart of what I think we are trying to do on 
this Committee, is translate that for everybody.
    Dr. Sicotte, I appreciate that we have a Catamount in the 
room today from the University of Vermont. Nice to see you.
    I would like to go to you first. Am I right that about 80-
90 percent of ocean shipping is actually controlled by just 
three major shipping alliances?
    Would you mind putting on your mic?
    Mr. Sicotte. I apologize.
    Ms. Balint. No, that's all right.
    Mr. Sicotte. I'm not used to this.
    Yes, that was the Fiscal Year 2024 figure in the FMC 
report. There's one very large company that has subsequently 
removed itself from the alliance, but the most--by any stretch, 
you would call this quite a concentrated industry.
    Ms. Balint. We talk about alliances. We will talk about 
conferences. Again, I'm trying to translate it for people back 
home. From where I sit, this looks a lot like cartels.
    Tell me why these ocean shippers form these cartels. Why 
does this advantage them?
    Mr. Sicotte. Well, the advantage--there could be two 
possible advantages from an economic perspective, right?
    One is that it enables them to use very large container 
ships that they wouldn't be able to fill on their own. That is 
one--that's their logic for an efficiency defense.
    Ms. Balint. OK.
    Mr. Sicotte. OK? The other logic would be the market power, 
the exercise of market power. To actually evaluate the merits 
of those arguments is really--it needs to be done. That's what 
is missing in that.
    Ms. Balint. I agree with you, and I think we can't just 
take their word for it around efficiency. We have to actually 
kick the tires and see if this holds water.
    I want to get to what you were talking about, market power. 
Tell me what they can do collectively as a cartel that they 
can't do separately.
    Mr. Sicotte. Well, if it's a full cartel--now, they--
cartels--
    Ms. Balint. I'm using that word. I understand you may not 
be comfortable with that word.
    Mr. Sicotte. Yes, because, technically, they're not 
permitted to fix rates jointly, right? That would be one 
stretch. If you can fix capacity jointly, you can, potentially, 
have the same impact. OK?
    Ms. Balint. Do you think it is fair to say that these 
massive ships with mountains of containers that carry, 
basically, everything that Americans see on their shelves, they 
are owned by these three alliances/cartels. They are actually 
impacting Americans directly every time that they go to the 
store and take something off the shelf. Is that fair to say?
    Mr. Sicotte. Yes, absolutely. Not only that, it's all the 
American farmers. Much of what's traded are inputs as well and 
intermediate goods. It hurts companies. It raises the costs of 
doing business.
    Ms. Balint. Yes. Actually, that is a great segue into 
talking with you, Mr. Rice.
    I'm a Vermonter. I understand the importance of the dairy 
industry. I'm wondering, how does this directly--again, I'm 
using the word ``collusion'' because that is what I think it 
is. It is a cartel involved in collusion. How does this impact 
American dairy farmers?
    Mr. Rice. Well, thank you, Congresswoman. Vermont has some 
great cheeses and other dairy products.
    Ms. Balint. Thank you for noticing.
    Mr. Rice. For cheeses, for example, perishability is a real 
concern. When these carriers aren't beholden to the interests 
of U.S. agriculture or dairy exporters, those products may not 
reach customers in time, and then, you have shelf-life issue at 
the East Coast.
    Ms. Balint. Exactly. Absolutely. I see that I'm almost--
well, I am out of time.
    If I could just say, if you will indulge me just for a 
moment, Mr. Chair--I know that this is an issue that we can 
come together on as Democrats and Republicans. It is one of the 
reasons why I love being on this Subcommittee, where we can 
actually do some bipartisan work. I hope that this is something 
that we will dive into--not just on the shipping industry, but 
all the industries in which Americans are getting screwed 
because we are not actually holding their feet to the fire and 
actually enforcing antitrust law.
    Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentlewoman yields back. Now, I will 
recognize the gentleman from California for five minutes.
    Mr. Issa. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Ms. Douglas, as a researcher, how do prices paid by our 
similar importers or exporters compare here to other countries 
around the world?
    Ms. Douglas. That's an excellent question that I would look 
to my economics colleagues to answer when it comes to specifics 
on price.
    Mr. Issa. OK. Who has got the proof that somebody else gets 
a better price than us? Is this a monopoly that screws the 
whole world or is it just a monopoly that is screwing the 
United States?
    Yes, sir?
    Mr. Sicotte. Well, that's such a great economics question. 
That's precisely the information that we don't know the answer 
to the question. Because that's actually a surprisingly 
difficult thing to come up with; is to actually measure the 
degree of market power that's being exercised.
    There's a good reason to be suspicious, based on the 
contours of the agreements, right, for sure. If they can't 
actually--I've never seen someone using the data and actually 
answering your question. I don't know the answer.
    Mr. Issa. OK. Well, let's explore this direction. Because 
we are asserting here today that there is a monopoly at work; 
that it is Chinese-based, and that it is using its market 
power.
    Is it fair to say the Chinese don't just own ships, they 
own the ports here and around the world, including, but not 
limited to both sides of the Panama Canal?
    Mr. Sicotte. It's my understanding that the port ownership 
is that they--that COSCO was forced to divest partially. 
Certainly, in terms of their agreements and their operations, 
they're a very large player.
    Mr. Issa. If they were transparent in some ways, they are 
opaque in some of the transfer cost?
    Mr. Sicotte. A lot of the data would be available to the 
Federal Maritime Commission to investigate that, yes.
    Mr. Issa. OK. Let's go the other way. Ms. Douglas, I'm 
going back to you. I'm not going to quit until you give me an 
answer to something--not that you are not trying to.
    Is it fair to say that, if the group of companies 
together--nine companies--with the kind of market power they 
have--and some of them specifying more in one country versus 
another--if you were looking at a merger and acquisition, you 
would turn this one down?
    Ms. Douglas. That's absolutely fair to say because the 
market shares, as we've mentioned, would be at least above 60-
95 percent. For mergers, we typically look at a 30-percent-or-
above share. So, yes.
    Mr. Issa. From a pure U.S. standpoint, we can agree that we 
created a monopoly in 1916 and thereafter. We allowed it to 
continue. Now, we have allowed this trust/monopoly--and 
``trust'' is probably even a better word--to, in fact, be 
opaque and to operate in a way that we really just don't know 
whether they are gouging us or not? We don't know whether they 
are getting a fair price? Even more importantly, if they 
decided not to service us, we would have very little recourse 
because we don't own enough ships to take care of ourselves. 
All those are vulnerabilities based on the current trust, if 
you will. Is that fair to say?
    Ms. Douglas. That's fair to say. I just want to make sure 
we're being clear that what we're talking about is agreements 
among competitors. Regardless of whether there is monopoly 
power, agreements can still be unlawful. That's what we're 
seeing in this space, and that's why it should have antitrust 
oversight.
    Mr. Issa. Well, as someone in San Diego who watched former 
CEO Smisek collude with the other airline companies to screw 
San Diego out of its direct flight from DCA, it is not just 
price. Sometimes it is service. We found ourselves with less 
choice. We were not without power.
    If we, essentially, set aside or partially set aside this 
law in bipartisan legislation, then the dismantling or the 
regulating or the holding accountable could begin. Is that fair 
to say?
    Ms. Douglas. Then the scrutiny from antitrust law would be 
applied and would likely find that there's problems in this 
industry, if this were repealed. We've seen around the edges 
where DOJ retains its jurisdiction, where the exception doesn't 
apply, there have been a number of cartel cases that have been 
successfully provided.
    Mr. Issa. OK. Last question in closing, is there a solution 
less than setting aside the 1916 law that would effectively 
require transparency before making the decision, but trigger an 
invalidation of this law if they failed to meet that 
requirement? Is that a possible solution to get the answers to 
your questions before we decide how much to break up these 
agreements? I'm just wondering if, from a legislative 
standpoint, if we have a middle ground here that we could come 
together on. Quickly.
    Mr. Sicotte. I think so. If you amend the law to require, 
or FMC to take into account DOJ's input more explicitly, that 
could be a middle ground.
    Mr. Issa. I thank you, Mr. Chair, and I appreciate the 
extra time and I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back. I would 
recognize the gentleman from Georgia for five minutes.
    Mr. Johnson. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    There is a well-known theory around here that nothing comes 
before this Committee that has not been approved in advance by 
Donald Trump, or directed by him to occur. Today, we are 
talking about competition between ocean carriers on the high 
seas, while here at home Americans are catching hell trying to 
pay their bills.
    He is wanting us to be talking about what is happening on 
the high seas, but there are a lot of people at home watching 
C-SPAN. I'm always surprised at how many people do.
    There are people at home wondering, what is this MAGA 
Republican Congress doing to address the fact that competition 
between predatory Wall Street private equity and venture 
capital firms are swallowing up the single-family home market? 
They are crowding out homebuyers, controlling the market, 
concentration in the market, driving up the cost of real estate 
beyond what people can pay--while at the same time getting a 
stranglehold on the apartment market and raising rents up at 
will, using algorithms and other predatory processes to soak 
the American people of their money.
    Yes, the rent in America is too damn high. Yes, the price 
of groceries in America is too damn high. The cost of gas in 
America--and across the world now--is too damn high.
    The cost of medical care is too damn high. We have got 
venture capital and private equity firms swallowing up medical 
practices and hospitals, getting a lock on the medical care 
market, while at the same time insurance companies are doing 
the same thing.
    Costs continue to go up for Americans due to market 
concentration into the hands of the super-wealthy billionaires 
who were seated behind Trump at his inauguration--the same ones 
who will be frolicking in the new White House ballroom that is 
being built to replace the West Wing of the White House.
    They are getting richer and richer, and Americans trying to 
make an honest day's pay are paying more and more.
    Can any of you witnesses think of one single thing that 
MAGA Republicans have done in Congress to make life more 
affordable for the American people? Can any of you cite one 
thing that they have done? I'm with you; I can't, either.
    Let me ask someone, are tariffs taxes? Dr. Moss, what do 
you say?
    Ms. Moss. The answer is the answer that we all know, and 
even your average American consumer knows, that the tariffs are 
taxes. They are paid by consumers. They raise the prices for 
essential commodities, where Americans, workers and consumers 
spend most of their money. That is just Economics 101. That is 
the economic reality. It is also the political reality.
    Those consumers vote. They are going to turn out in droves 
because cost of living is such a top-of-mind issue for them. If 
anything galvanizes consumers in the upcoming election cycles, 
it will be that issue.
    Mr. Johnson. Well, I tell you, it is $175 billion in taxes 
due to tariffs that have been levied on the American people 
over the last year by this Trump Administration--with the 
complicity of Members of Congress here in control, MAGA 
Republicans. Americans will, indeed, be looking at it in 
November.
    The high cost of housing, food, medical care, and energy is 
what the American people are concerned about. This Committee 
appears to be focused on competition between ocean carriers on 
the high seas. I think that is a shame.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentleman yields back.
    Ms. Balint. Mr. Chair, I have a couple of UCs to enter into 
the record.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. The gentlewoman is recognized.
    Ms. Balint. First, from Reuters, February 12, 2026, ``NY 
Fed report says Americans pay for almost all of Trump's 
tariffs.''
    Second, Gallup, March 2026, ``One-Third of Americans Cut 
Back to Cover Healthcare Expenses.''
    Third, finally, from The New York Times, ``Oil Rises, 
Bringing Gains to 40% Since the Start of the War.''
    Mr. Fitzgerald. Without objection.
    Ms. Balint. Thank you.
    Mr. Fitzgerald. That concludes today's hearing. Thank you 
to our witnesses for appearing before the Committee today.
    Without objection, all Members will have five legislative 
days to submit additional written questions for the witnesses 
or additional materials for the record.
    Without objection, the hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:33 a.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]

    All materials submitted for the record by Members of the 
Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, 
and Antitrust can be found at: https://docs.house.gov/
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