[House Hearing, 119 Congress]
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2026                          MEMBER DAY
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                                HEARING

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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                           DECEMBER 18, 2025

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                           Serial No. 119-33

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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY

                Andrew R. Garbarino, New York, Chairman
Michael T. McCaul, Texas, Vice       Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi, 
    Chair                                Ranking Member
Michael Guest, Mississippi           Eric Swalwell, California
Carlos A. Gimenez, Florida           J. Luis Correa, California
August Pfluger, Texas                Shri Thanedar, Michigan
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia      Seth Magaziner, Rhode Island
Tony Gonzales, Texas                 Daniel S. Goldman, New York
Morgan Luttrell, Texas               Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Dale W. Strong, Alabama              Timothy M. Kennedy, New York
Josh Brecheen, Oklahoma              LaMonica McIver, New Jersey
Elijah Crane, Arizona                Julie Johnson, Texas, Vice Ranking 
Andrew Ogles, Tennessee                  Member
Sheri Biggs, South Carolina          Pablo Jose Hernandez, Puerto Rico
Gabe Evans, Colorado                 Nellie Pou, New Jersey
Ryan Mackenzie, Pennsylvania         James R. Walkinshaw, Virginia
Brad Knott, North Carolina           Troy A. Carter, Louisiana
Vince Fong, California               Al Green, Texas
Matt Van Epps, Tennessee

                     Keighle Joyce, Staff Director
                  Hope Goins, Minority Staff Director
                       Sean Corcoran, Chief Clerk
                            
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                               Statement

Honorable Andrew R. Garbarino, a Representative in Congress From 
  the State of New York, and Chairman, Committee on Homeland 
  Security.......................................................     1

                             For the Record

Honorable Jared Moskowitz, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of Florida:
  Prepared Statement.............................................     1

 
                              MEMBER DAY

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                      Thursday, December 18, 2025

             U.S. House of Representatives,
                    Committee on Homeland Security,
                                            Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to notice, at 12:01 p.m., in 
room 310, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Andrew R. 
Garbarino, [Chairman of the committee], presiding.
    Present: Representatives Garbarino, Van Epps, and Goldman.
    Chairman Garbarino. The Committee on Homeland Security will 
come to order. Today, pursuant to notice, the committee will 
fulfill its requirement under Section 3(r), House Resolution 5, 
119th Congress, to receive testimony from Members, delegates, 
and resident commissioners on the proposed legislation within 
its jurisdiction.
    It appears no Members have joined us to testify today. 
Members unavailable to appeal before the committee are invited 
to submit written testimony for the record.
    [The statement of Hon. Jared Moskowitz follows:]
                 Statement of Honorable Jared Moskowitz
                           December 16, 2025
    Thank you, Chairman Garbarino, Ranking Member Thompson, and Members 
of the committee. As the Representative for Florida's 23rd 
Congressional District--and the only former State-wide Emergency 
Management Director to ever serve in Congress--I appreciate the 
opportunity to speak with you today about how we strengthen FEMA and 
improve the way our country prepares for, responds to, and recovers 
from disasters.
    This hearing is timely because the FEMA Review Council is preparing 
to finalize recommendations on the agency's future. And unfortunately, 
recent reporting has raised questions about how that review process has 
unfolded, including changes to the scope of the draft report and the 
cancellation of a planned public briefing. At a moment when FEMA's 
role, structure, and its very existence are under active review, it is 
especially important that reform discussions remain focused on 
strengthening the agency rather than dismantling it.
    Unfortunately, there has been serious talk in recent months about 
eliminating FEMA in some form. Secretary Noem herself has publicly 
argued for eliminating FEMA ``as it exists today,'' before later 
shifting her position to argue that FEMA should be reworked or 
reoriented rather than fully dismantled. Regardless of how it is 
framed, eliminating FEMA is not the right answer. FEMA is not perfect--
no agency is--but we don't fix that by walking away. We fix it by 
making the agency better. We can save FEMA by enacting common-sense 
reforms that make it faster, more efficient, and more effective, and 
I've been working on bipartisan proposals to do that. We have a real 
opportunity to make the agency deliver as the American people deserve 
it to.
    The worst thing Congress could do right now is dismantle the only 
Federal agency whose sole mission is to respond when Americans are at 
their most vulnerable. Eliminating FEMA would force States to take on 
disasters alone, regardless of whether they have the resources or 
capacity to do so. It would slow recovery, raise costs, and leave 
families without the support they need.
    The rate of disasters is increasing, and their severity is 
increasing as well. In 2023 alone, the United States faced 28 separate 
billion-dollar disasters, the highest number ever recorded, totaling 
more than $91.3 billion in damages.\1\ \2\ Events like these aren't 
concentrated in one region, either--they strike nearly every part of 
the country, and the damage is such that communities simply can't 
recover alone.
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    \1\ Wu, Shuang-Ye. ``Billion-Dollar Weather and Climate Disasters 
Broke U.S. Record in 2023, NOAA Says.'' PBS NewsHour, January 10, 2024. 
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/a-record-28-billion-dollar-
weather-and-climate-disasters-struck-the-u-s-in-2023-noaa.
    \2\ National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI). U.S. 
Billion-Dollar Weather & Climate Disasters 1980-2024. National Oceanic 
and Atmospheric Administration. https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/
billions/events.pdf.
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    We saw it in Hawaii, when wildfires tore through Maui, decimating 
the historic town of Lahaina in what became the deadliest U.S. 
wildfires in more than 100 years. Nearly 100 people were killed, and 
thousands of families lost their homes and businesses at incredible 
emotional and financial cost--more than $5.7 billion in damage.\2\ \3\
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    \3\ Blake, Mike, and Marco Garcia. ``Maui Wildfires Deadliest in 
Century as Death Toll Hits 93.'' Reuters, August 13, 2023. https://
www.reuters.com/world/us/death-toll-maui-fires-hits-least-80-damages-
billions-dollars-2023-08-12/.
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    We saw it in my home State of Florida, when Hurricane Ian made 
landfall as a Category 4 storm, flattening coastal communities, cutting 
power to millions, and causing nearly $120 billion in damage.\1\ It was 
one of the costliest storms on record.
    And of course, during COVID-19, our country experienced our first-
ever nationwide Major Disaster Declaration. All 50 States, all 5 
territories, and the District of Columbia were under active 
declarations at the same time.\4\ It was the first time a public health 
emergency triggered a response under the Stafford Act.\5\
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    \4\ Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). FEMA Led Historic 
Pandemic Response, Supported Record Number of Disasters in 2020. U.S. 
Department of Homeland Security, January 11, 2021. https://
www.fema.gov/press-release/20210111/fema-led-historic-pandemic-
response-supported-record-number-disasters-2020.
    \5\ U.S. Government Accountability Office. Disaster Relief Fund: 
Lessons Learned from COVID-19 Could Improve FEMA's Estimates. GAO-24-
106676. Washington, DC: Government Accountability Office, July 9, 2024. 
https://www.gao.gov/products/gao-24-106676.
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    These are just a few of the many examples, but in all of them, who 
showed up to help? It was FEMA--working alongside State and local 
responders--that helped provide shelter, coordinate aid, and begin the 
long but necessary recovery process.
    In the years after Ian, FEMA provided $1.15 billion in direct 
grants to help nearly 400,000 Florida households repair and rebuild, 
and another $2.3 billion to local communities for debris clean-up and 
infrastructure repair?\6\ In total, Federal support for Ian's recovery 
topped $10.2 billion?\6\ In Hawaii, FEMA is still around almost 2 years 
later, offering direct housing assistance. And during COVID, the agency 
helped deliver billions of units of PPE, supported field hospitals and 
vaccine sites, and provided more than $125 billion in emergency aid to 
State and local governments.\4\ \5\ If there was ever any doubt about 
FEMA's importance, COVID made it clear.\4\ \5\ FEMA delivered the 
national response that the pandemic required.
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    \6\ Federal Emergency Management Agency. ``Hurricane Ian: Two Years 
into Recovery.'' FEMA.gov, September 19, 2024. https://www.fema.gov/
press-release/20250122/hurricane-ian-two-years-recovery.
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    All of this to say, this is not a regional issue. It is national. 
As more and more Americans live in high-risk areas and the climate 
continues to change, the scale and costs of these disasters will keep 
rising. And FEMA is the only Federal agency with the expertise and 
infrastructure to coordinate response and recovery at this magnitude.
    But FEMA can only do that work if it has the structure, authority, 
and agility to meet the challenges we face. That's why I introduced the 
FEMA Independence Act--to restore FEMA as a stand-alone agency with a 
direct line to the President. I'm honored that this committee included 
that reform in the broader package. It's a common-sense step that 
reflects what many of us already knew from experience: FEMA needs the 
ability to act quickly, cut through bureaucracy, and lead when disaster 
strikes.
    While that is an important step in the right direction, I also 
believe we should continue exploring ways to give States more 
flexibility in how they administer disaster recovery programs. For 
example, I introduced the Disaster Housing Flexibility Act and the 
Disaster Response Flexibility Act to allow States to opt into a block 
grant model for housing and public assistance. These proposals are 
rooted in my experience managing State block grant programs during my 
time as the director of Florida's Division of Emergency Management, 
where getting resources out the door quickly made a real difference.
    These kinds of reforms are not about shifting responsibility. They 
are about recognizing that some States have the capacity and readiness 
to move faster--and we should empower them to do so when appropriate. A 
voluntary block grant framework would allow FEMA to focus more of its 
capacity on States that need the most Federal support, while giving 
States with strong emergency management infrastructure more say in 
their own recovery. Not only would it reduce administrative burden and 
increase efficiency, it would also give States the flexibility to 
tailor assistance in ways that make the best use of available 
resources. It is a flexible, scalable model worth considering as we 
look ahead.
    FEMA is not a luxury. It is a lifeline. Whether it is hurricanes in 
Florida or Texas, wildfires in Hawaii or California, floods in Vermont 
or Iowa, tornadoes in Kentucky or Mississippi, or heat waves in Nevada 
or Arizona, FEMA shows up with the people and resources to help. That 
work does not replace State or local efforts--it supports and 
strengthens them when the scale exceeds what any one community can 
manage.
    That is why proposals to abolish FEMA are so dangerous. Eliminating 
the only Federal agency solely focused on disaster response would not 
make our communities safer or recovery faster. It would do the 
opposite. We should be improving FEMA, not tearing it down--and that is 
exactly what this reform package begins to do.
    This committee plays a central role in shaping FEMA's future 
through oversight of the DHS and the agency's disaster mission. The 
discussions taking place here, alongside the on-going work of the FEMA 
Review Council, will help determine whether FEMA is positioned to 
respond effectively to the growing scale and complexity of disasters. I 
appreciate the opportunity to contribute to that conversation and look 
forward to working with the committee as it considers reforms to 
strengthen FEMA and the Federal-State partnership.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today.

    Chairman Garbarino. All right. Pursuant to committee rule 
VII(E), the hearing record will be held open for 10 days. 
Without objection, the committee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 12:02 p.m., the committee was adjourned.]

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