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                   FUTURE OF UNITED STATES MARITIME,
                   PART 1: REVIEW OF FISCAL YEAR 2026
                      FEDERAL MARITIME COMMISSION
                             BUDGET REQUEST

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                                HEARING

                               BEFORE THE

                            SUBCOMMITTEE ON
                COAST GUARD AND MARITIME TRANSPORTATION

                                 OF THE

                              COMMITTEE ON
                   TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                             JULY 22, 2025

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             COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

  Sam Graves, Missouri, Chairman
 Rick Larsen, Washington, Ranking 
              Member
Eleanor Holmes Norton,               Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford, 
  District of Columbia               Arkansas,
Jerrold Nadler, New York               Vice Chairman
John Garamendi, California           Daniel Webster, Florida
Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr., Georgiaomas Massie, Kentucky
Andre Carson, Indiana                Scott Perry, Pennsylvania
Dina Titus, Nevada                   Brian Babin, Texas
Jared Huffman, California            David Rouzer, North Carolina
Julia Brownley, California           Mike Bost, Illinois
Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         Doug LaMalfa, California
Mark DeSaulnier, California          Bruce Westerman, Arkansas
Salud O. Carbajal, California        Brian J. Mast, Florida
Greg Stanton, Arizona                Pete Stauber, Minnesota
Sharice Davids, Kansas               Tim Burchett, Tennessee
Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   Dusty Johnson, South Dakota
Chris Pappas, New Hampshire          Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey
Seth Moulton, Massachusetts          Troy E. Nehls, Texas
Marilyn Strickland, Washington       Tracey Mann, Kansas
Patrick Ryan, New York               Burgess Owens, Utah
Val T. Hoyle, Oregon                 Eric Burlison, Missouri
Emilia Strong Sykes, Ohio,           Mike Collins, Georgia
  Vice Ranking Member                Mike Ezell, Mississippi
Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        Kevin Kiley, California
Valerie P. Foushee, North Carolina   Vince Fong, California
Christopher R. Deluzio, Pennsylvania Tony Wied, Wisconsin
Robert Garcia, California            Tom Barrett, Michigan
Nellie Pou, New Jersey               Nicholas J. Begich III, Alaska
Kristen McDonald Rivet, Michigan     Robert P. Bresnahan, Jr., 
Laura Friedman, California           Pennsylvania
Laura Gillen, New York               Jeff Hurd, Colorado
Shomari Figures, Alabama             Jefferson Shreve, Indiana
Vacancy                              Addison P. McDowell, North 
                                     Carolina
                                     David J. Taylor, Ohio
                                     Brad Knott, North Carolina
                                     Kimberlyn King-Hinds,
                                       Northern Mariana Islands
                                     Mike Kennedy, Utah
                                     Robert F. Onder, Jr., Missouri
                                     Jimmy Patronis, Florida
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        Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation

                   Mike Ezell, Mississippi, Chairman
             Salud O. Carbajal, California, Ranking Member
Daniel Webster, Florida              Chris Pappas, New Hampshire
Brian J. Mast, Florida               Marilyn Strickland, Washington
Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey       Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan
Nicholas J. Begich III, Alaska       Robert Garcia, California,
Addison P. McDowell, North             Vice Ranking Member
    Carolina,                        John Garamendi, California
  Vice Chairman                      Rick Larsen, Washington (Ex 
Jimmy Patronis, Florida                  Officio)
Sam Graves, Missouri (Ex Officio)


                                CONTENTS

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Summary of Subject Matter........................................     v

                 STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

Hon. Mike Ezell, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Mississippi, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Coast Guard and 
  Maritime Transportation, opening statement.....................     1
    Prepared statement...........................................     2
Hon. Rick Larsen, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Washington, and Ranking Member, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, opening statement..............................     3
    Prepared statement...........................................     4
Hon. Salud O. Carbajal, a Representative in Congress from the 
  State of California, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Coast 
  Guard and Maritime Transportation, opening statement...........     4
    Prepared statement...........................................     6

                                WITNESS

Hon. Rebecca F. Dye, Commissioner, Federal Maritime Commission, 
  oral statement.................................................     7
    Prepared statement...........................................     8

                                APPENDIX

Questions to Hon. Rebecca F. Dye, Commissioner, Federal Maritime 
  Commission, from Hon. John Garamendi...........................    29




                             July 18, 2025

    SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER

    TO:      LMembers, Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime 
Transportation
    FROM:  LStaff, Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime 
Transportation
    RE:      LSubcommittee Hearing on ``Future of United States 
Maritime Part 1: Review of Fiscal Year 2026 Federal Maritime 
Commission Budget Request''
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                               I. PURPOSE

    The Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation 
of the Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure will meet 
on Tuesday, July 22, 2025, at 2:00 p.m. ET in 2167 Rayburn 
House Office Building to receive testimony on the President's 
Fiscal Year (FY) 2026 Budget Request for the Federal Maritime 
Commission (FMC) and FMC reauthorization issues. The 
Subcommittee will hear testimony from the FMC.

                             II. BACKGROUND

FEDERAL MARITIME COMMISSION

    The FMC was established in 1961 as an independent agency 
that regulates ocean-borne transportation in the foreign 
commerce of the United States.\1\ The FMC protects shippers and 
carriers from restrictive or unfair practices of ocean 
carriers, including foreign-flagged carrier alliances. The FMC 
also enforces laws related to cruise vessel financial 
responsibility to ensure cruise vessel operators have 
sufficient resources to pay judgments to passengers for 
personal injury or death or for nonperformance of a voyage.\2\
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    \1\ 46 U.S.C. Sec.  46101.
    \2\ FMC. Federal Maritime Commission FY 2026 Budget Justification, 
(May 2025), available at https://www.fmc.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/
05/FY2026CongressionalBudgetJustification
2025.pdf.
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    The FMC is composed of five commissioners appointed for 
five-year terms by the President with the advice and consent of 
the Senate. The Commission currently has two vacancies. The 
Honorable Rebecca Dye serves as a Commissioner.\3\
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    \3\ FMC. Rebecca Dye, available at https://www.fmc.gov/about/
commissioner-archive/rebecca-f-dye/.
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IMPLEMENTATION OF THE OCEAN SHIPPING REFORM ACT OF 2022

    The Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022 (P.L. 117-146) was 
signed into law on June 16, 2022, and strengthened FMC 
authorities to promote the growth and development of United 
States exports through an ocean transportation system that is 
competitive, efficient, and economical. The law authorizes 
appropriations for the FMC through FY 2025; sets standards that 
detention and demurrage charges must comply with and penalties 
for charges deemed inaccurate; allows the FMC to set minimum 
contract standards for ocean shipping service contracts to 
protect United States shippers from actions that leave export 
cargoes stranded at United States ports; and increases 
protections for United States shippers from retaliation by 
foreign ocean carriers. The Commission has been working to 
implement the legislation since its passage more than two years 
ago and has signaled that the majority of all statutorily 
mandated requirements will be implemented by the end of FY 
2025.\4\
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    \4\ The Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, Pub. L. No. 117-146, 136 
Stat. 1272.
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FMC INVESTIGATION ON FLAGGING PRACTICES

    On May 21, 2025, the FMC announced a ``nonadjudicatory 
investigation into whether the vessel flagging laws, 
regulations, or practices of foreign countries, including so-
called flags of convenience, or competitive methods employed by 
the owners, operators, agents, or masters of foreign-flagged 
vessels, are creating unfavorable shipping conditions in the 
foreign trade of the United States.'' \5\ Many vessels in the 
international trade fly flags that differ from the nation where 
the ownership is based. The FMC is concerned that certain flag 
states may have standards that provide vessels with lower costs 
and oversight at the expense of reliability and safety.\6\ The 
FMC has a public comment period open through August 20, 2025.
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    \5\ Investigation Into Flags of Convenience and Unfavorable 
Conditions Created by Certain Flagging Practices, 90 Fed. Reg. 21926 
(May 22, 2025).
    \6\ Id.
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                          III. BUDGET FOR FMC

    The President's FY 2025 budget request for the FMC \7\ 
compares to the FY 2024 enacted funding level \8\ as shown 
here:
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    \7\ Supra, note 2.
    \8\ Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024, Pub. L. No. 118-42, 138 
Stat. 25.

                      FMC FY 2025 Enacted to FY 2026 President's Budget Request Comparison
                                             (Dollars in Thousands)
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                                                                  President's FY   FY 2025 to FY   FY 2025 to FY
                     Account                          FY 2025      2026 Budget      2026 Change     2026 Change
                                                      Enacted        Request            ($)             (%)
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Operations and Administrative Program............      $ 40,000         $ 40,000             $ 0              0%
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    The President requests $40 million in FY 2026 for the 
activities of the FMC, an amount equal to the FY 2025 enacted 
level.\9\ The request includes $25,869,320 for salaries and 
expenses to support 120 full-time equivalent positions, which 
represents a $2 million decrease from current levels. The 
remainder of the funding request includes operational expenses, 
including rent and technology upgrades. The funding would allow 
the Commission to continue its efforts to enforce antitrust 
exceptions for ocean carriers and ensure a competitive ocean 
transportation system.\10\
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    \9\ Id.
    \10\ Id.
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                              IV. WITNESS

     The Honorable Rebecca Dye, Commissioner, Federal 
Maritime Commission

 
 FUTURE OF UNITED STATES MARITIME, PART 1: REVIEW OF FISCAL YEAR 2026 
               FEDERAL MARITIME COMMISSION BUDGET REQUEST

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                         TUESDAY, JULY 22, 2025

                  House of Representatives,
                    Subcommittee on Coast Guard and
                           Maritime Transportation,
            Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The committee met, pursuant to call, at 2 p.m., in Room 
2167, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Mike Ezell (Chairman 
of the subcommittee) presiding.
    Mr. Ezell. The Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime 
Transportation will come to order.
    I ask unanimous consent that the chair may be authorized to 
declare a recess at any time during today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that Members not on the 
subcommittee be permitted to sit with the subcommittee at 
today's hearing and ask questions.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    As a reminder, if Members wish to insert a document into 
the record, please also email it to [email protected].
    I now recognize myself for the purpose of an opening 
statement for 5 minutes.

OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. MIKE EZELL OF MISSISSIPPI, CHAIRMAN, 
    SUBCOMMITTEE ON COAST GUARD AND MARITIME TRANSPORTATION

    Mr. Ezell. We meet today to review the President's fiscal 
year 2026 budget request for the Federal Maritime Commission, 
or FMC. The FMC is an independent agency responsible for the 
regulation of oceanborne transportation in the foreign commerce 
of the United States. They also protect shippers and carriers 
from unfair practices of foreign-flagged carrier alliances.
    The President's fiscal year 2026 budget request includes 
$40 million to fund the salaries, operations, and capital needs 
of the FMC.
    Today, we welcome our witness, Commissioner Rebecca Dye--
welcome, Commissioner--of the Federal Maritime Commission, to 
discuss the President's fiscal year 2026 budget request, as 
well as the state of the ocean shipping industry and their 
ongoing work implementing the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 
2022, also known as OSRA, O-S-R-A.
    The FMC has worked diligently since the enactment of OSRA 
to implement its enhanced authorities, and I look forward to 
hearing from Commissioner Dye today on the status of FMC's 
efforts.
    Earlier this year, the FMC announced an investigation into 
vessel flagging laws, regulations, and practices of foreign 
countries. I fear these so-called flags of convenience create 
unfavorable shipping conditions in the foreign trade of the 
United States.
    Many vessels conducting international trade fly a flag that 
differs from the nation where the ownership is based. The FMC 
is examining whether certain flag states may have standards 
that provide vessels with lower cost and oversight at the 
expense of reliability and safety. I look forward to hearing 
from Commissioner Dye on the progress of the investigation.
    In line with President Trump's Executive order to restore 
American maritime dominance, we are working to bolster our 
domestic maritime capabilities, which are paramount to both the 
security and economic growth of our Nation. I look forward to 
hearing from our witness on how the FMC plans to make United 
States maritime great again.
    Commissioner Dye, thank you for being here today.
    [Mr. Ezell's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
    Prepared Statement of Hon. Mike Ezell of Mississippi, Chairman, 
        Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation
    We meet today to review the President's fiscal year 2026 budget 
request for the Federal Maritime Commission (FMC).
    The FMC is an independent agency responsible for the regulation of 
ocean-borne transportation in the foreign commerce of the United 
States. They also protect shippers and carriers from unfair practices 
of foreign-flagged carrier alliances. The President's fiscal year 2026 
budget request includes $40 million to fund the salaries, operations, 
and capital needs of the FMC.
    Today, we welcome our witness, Commissioner Rebecca Dye of the 
Federal Maritime Commission, to discuss the budget request, as well as 
the state of the ocean shipping industry and their ongoing work 
implementing the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022 (OSRA).
    The FMC has worked diligently since the enactment of OSRA to 
implement its enhanced authorities, and I look forward to hearing from 
Commissioner Dye today on the status of FMC's efforts.
    Earlier this year, the FMC announced an investigation into vessel 
flagging laws, regulations, and practices of foreign countries. I fear 
these so called ``flags of convenience'' create unfavorable shipping 
conditions in the foreign trade of the United States.
    Many vessels conducting international trade fly flags that differ 
from the nation where the ownership is based. The FMC is examining 
whether certain flag states may have standards that provide vessels 
with lower costs and oversight at the expense of reliability and 
safety. I look forward to hearing from Commissioner Dye on the progress 
of the investigation.
    In line with President Trump's executive order to restore American 
maritime dominance, we are working to bolster our domestic maritime 
capabilities, which are paramount to both the security and economic 
growth of our nation. I look forward to hearing from our witness on how 
the FMC plans to make United States maritime great again.

    Mr. Ezell. I now recognize Ranking Member Carbajal for 5 
minutes for an opening statement.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As usual, I will 
defer my time to Ranking Member Larsen.

 OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. RICK LARSEN OF WASHINGTON, RANKING 
     MEMBER, COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, thank 
you, Ranking Member, for scheduling this hearing on the fiscal 
year budget for the Federal Maritime Commission.
    While a small agency, the FMC has a big role. They protect 
shippers and consumers by monitoring and taking action against 
unfair and uncompetitive foreign shipping practices.
    Ocean shipping is dominated by foreign shipping companies, 
with U.S.-flagged operations comprising less than 2 percent of 
imports and exports. The supply chain crisis associated with 
the pandemic and ongoing international conflicts demonstrate 
the need for robust oversight to ensure there is a fair playing 
field. Fluctuations in service and pricing are normal, but it 
is the role of the FMC to ensure these fluctuations are 
justified in a competitive market.
    The President's fiscal year 2026 budget request for the FMC 
is flat. And I look forward to hearing from our witness how the 
agency can ensure fair shipping with flat funding.
    The FMC has begun to use its new investigative and 
prosecutorial authorities provided under OSRA of 2022. I look 
forward to hearing an update on the implementation of these new 
authorities.
    And since the passage of the reform act, container prices 
have fallen and queues at ports have evaporated.
    The FMC has also improved its reporting process, leading to 
an increase in charge complaints from American businesses, one 
of which resulted in a $2 million settlement over findings that 
the shipping company knowingly and willfully violated the 
shipping act.
    This means lower costs for consumers, thanks to the quick 
action and passage of this bill by Congress and signature by 
President Biden.
    These are positive trends, but I am concerned this will be 
short-lived if the administration neglects the FMC. The FMC has 
lost nearly 20 percent of its workforce due to the deferred 
resignation program and the ongoing hiring freeze. This means 
fewer investigators finding unfair shipping practices and fewer 
attorneys prosecuting cases.
    The FMC is also operating without two Commissioners, and 
currently there is no Chair. As a bipartisan, independent 
agency, the FMC's critical functions cannot be understated.
    I look forward to hearing from Commissioner Dye about ways 
to ensure a fair and competitive maritime supply chain and to 
build upon the successes we have seen so far.
    With that, I yield back.
    [Mr. Larsen of Washington's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Hon. Rick Larsen of Washington, Ranking Member, 
             Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure
    Mr. Chairman, thank you for scheduling this afternoon's hearing to 
review the Fiscal Year 2026 budget request for the Federal Maritime 
Commission.
    While a small agency, the Federal Maritime Commission has an 
important role. It protects shippers and consumers by monitoring and 
taking action against unfair and uncompetitive foreign shipping 
practices.
    Ocean shipping is dominated by foreign shipping companies with 
U.S.-flagged operations comprising less than 2 percent of imports and 
exports. The supply chain crisis associated with the pandemic and 
ongoing international conflicts demonstrate the need for robust 
oversight to ensure a fair playing field.
    Fluctuations in service and pricing are normal, but it is the role 
of the FMC to ensure that those fluctuations are justified in a 
competitive market.
    The President's fiscal year 2026 budget request for the Federal 
Maritime Commission--is flat. I look forward to hearing from our 
witness how the agency can ensure fair shipping with flat funding.
    The FMC has begun to use its new investigative and prosecutorial 
authorities provided under the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022. I 
look forward to hearing an update on the implementation of these new 
authorities.
    Since passage of the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, container 
prices have fallen and queues at ports have evaporated.
    The FMC has also improved its reporting process leading to an 
increase in charge complaints from American businesses. One of which 
resulted in a $2 million settlement over findings that the shipping 
company knowingly and willfully violated the Shipping Act.
    This means lower costs for consumers thanks to quick action by 
Congress and President Biden.
    These are positive trends. But, I am concerned this will be short 
lived if the Administration neglects the FMC. The FMC has lost nearly 
20 percent of its workforce due to the Deferred Resignation Program and 
the ongoing hiring freeze. This means fewer investigators finding 
unfair shipping practices and fewer attorneys prosecuting cases.
    The FMC is also operating without two Commissioners and there's 
currently no chair. As a bipartisan, independent agency, the FMC's 
critical functions cannot be overstated.
    I look forward to hearing from Commissioner Dye about ways to 
ensure a fair and competitive maritime supply chain and to build upon 
the success we have seen so far.
    I yield back.

    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields back.
    I would once again like to welcome our witness and thank 
her for being here today.
    Briefly, I would like to take a moment to explain our 
lighting system to our witness. There are three lights in front 
of you. Green means go, yellow means you are running out of 
time, red means put on brakes.
    I ask unanimous consent that the witness' full statement 
be--Mr. Carbajal, did you want to?
    Mr. Carbajal. Sure.
    Mr. Ezell. The Chair now recognizes Mr. Carbajal.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. SALUD O. CARBAJAL OF CALIFORNIA, 
   RANKING MEMBER, SUBCOMMITTEE ON COAST GUARD AND MARITIME 
                         TRANSPORTATION

    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Chair Ezell, for scheduling 
today's hearing on the ``Future of United States Maritime, Part 
1: Review of Fiscal Year 2026 Federal Maritime Commission 
Budget Request.''
    I look forward to hearing from Commissioner Dye of the 
Federal Maritime Commission, or FMC as we know it, on the 
President's budget request and their agency's priorities for 
the upcoming year.
    In 2022, we worked hard to pass the Ocean Shipping Reform 
Act out of this subcommittee, which subsequently became law. I 
am particularly eager to hear about its implementation and how 
its new authorities have helped maintain a resilient and 
efficient supply chain.
    As a federal agency tasked with ensuring fairness for 
American shippers, carriers, and consumers, the FMC plays a 
crucial role in safeguarding transparency and enforcing 
equitable maritime commerce. According to the U.N., over 80 
percent of the world trade volume is carried over the ocean. In 
2024, over 11 percent of the total U.S. GDP came from ocean 
shipping, which translates into over $4 trillion.
    In a global economy, the FMC is often our only referee for 
a fair shipping market.
    We know from recent history that weaknesses in our supply 
chain were exposed as landside port congestion and unfair 
shipping practices by foreign ocean carriers led to backlogs 
and price increases. This contributed to higher prices for 
Americans on almost everything they buy.
    The reforms in our bill strengthen the FMC's authority to 
investigate unfair fees and help facilitate the efficient 
movement of cargo through U.S. ports. I am proud to say that 
since the passage of the OSRA, vessel congestion at ports has 
decreased. And in the 3 years since the enactment in 2022, more 
than $5.8 million in fees have been waived or refunded in undue 
charges by carriers.
    In May of this year, the FMC launched an investigation into 
flagging practices of foreign governments, otherwise known as 
flags of convenience. These practices severely undermine flag 
states that employ rigorous standards, ensure fair pay, and 
provide basic human rights. I hope that the FMC will leverage 
every authority they have to address this systemic global 
problem.
    Further, the FMC is currently undertaking a rulemaking 
aimed at ensuring that exporters are given fair access to cargo 
space. It is important that the FMC is sufficiently funded so 
that it can properly carry out these reforms, which will 
greatly benefit American businesses and the American consumer.
    While I am pleased to hear about all the success that FMC 
has been having, I would be remiss if I did not mention my 
growing concern with the shortage of Commissioners, the loss of 
employees through the deferred resignation program, and the 
lack of a Chair for the agency. The absence of leadership 
threatens the positive momentum they have had so far.
    I look forward to a robust discussion about the FMC's 
ongoing actions and how they will ensure a strong maritime 
industry.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    [Mr. Carbajal's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
  Prepared Statement of Hon. Salud O. Carbajal of California, Ranking 
    Member, Subcommittee on Coast Guard and Maritime Transportation
    Thank you, Chair Ezell, for scheduling today's hearing on the 
``Future of United States Maritime, Part 1: Review of Fiscal Year 2026 
Federal Maritime Commission Budget Request.''
    I look forward to hearing from Commissioner Dye of the Federal 
Maritime Commission, or FMC, on the President's budget request and 
their agency priorities for the upcoming year.
    In 2022, we worked hard to pass the Ocean Shipping Reform Act out 
of this subcommittee which subsequently became law. I am particularly 
eager to hear about its implementation, and how its new authorities 
have helped maintain a resilient and efficient supply chain.
    As the federal agency tasked with ensuring fairness for American 
shippers, carriers, and consumers, the FMC plays a crucial role in 
safeguarding transparency and enforcing equitable maritime commerce. 
According to the U.N., over 80 percent of world trade volume is carried 
over the ocean. In 2024, over 11 percent of the total U.S. GDP came 
from ocean shipping--which translates into over $4 trillion dollars.
    In a global economy, the FMC is often our only referee for a fair 
shipping market.
    We know from recent history that weaknesses in our supply chain 
were exposed as landside port congestion and unfair shipping practices 
by foreign ocean carriers led to backlogs and price increases. This 
contributed to higher prices for Americans on almost everything they 
buy.
    The reforms in our bill strengthened the FMC's authority to 
investigate unfair fees and help facilitate the efficient movement of 
cargo through U.S. ports. I am proud to say that since the passage of 
the OSRA, vessel congestion at ports has decreased and in the three 
years since the enactment in 2022, more than $5.8 million in fees have 
been waived or refunded in undue charges by carriers.
    In May of this year, the FMC launched an investigation into 
flagging practices of foreign governments, otherwise known as ``Flags 
of Convenience.'' These practices severely undermine flag states that 
employ rigorous standards, ensure fair pay, and provide basic human 
rights. I hope that the FMC will leverage every authority they have to 
address this systemic global problem.
    Further, the FMC is currently undertaking a rulemaking aimed at 
ensuring that exporters are given fair access to cargo space. It is 
important that the FMC is sufficiently funded so that it can properly 
carry out these reforms, which will greatly benefit American businesses 
and the American consumer.
    While I am pleased to hear about all the success that FMC has been 
having, I would be remiss if I did not mention my growing concern with 
the shortage of commissioners, the loss of employees to the deferred 
resignation program, and the lack of a Chair of the agency. The absence 
of leadership threatens the positive momentum they have had so far.
    I look forward to a robust discussion about how the FMC's ongoing 
actions will ensure stronger maritime industry.
    I yield back.

    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    I ask unanimous consent that the witness' full statement be 
included in the record.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I ask unanimous consent that the record of today's hearing 
remain open until such time as our witness has provided answers 
to any questions that may be submitted to her in writing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that the record remain open 
for 15 days for any additional comments and information 
submitted by Members or witnesses to be included in the record 
of today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    As your written testimony has been made part of the record, 
the subcommittee asks that you limit your oral remarks to 5 
minutes.
    With that, Commissioner Dye, you are recognized for 5 
minutes for your testimony.

    TESTIMONY OF HON. REBECCA F. DYE, COMMISSIONER, FEDERAL 
                      MARITIME COMMISSION

    Ms. Dye. Thank you very much. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member 
Carbajal, members of the subcommittee, it is like coming home 
for me. And I very much appreciate your holding this hearing. 
And thank you so much for your interest in the responsibilities 
of the Federal Maritime Commission.
    As you are aware, my friend and colleague Lou Sola departed 
on June 30, and we look forward to news of his future 
endeavors.
    There has been a smooth transition at the Federal Maritime 
Commission, and there will be consistency in dealing with 
shipping issues of importance to you and your constituents.
    I fully support the President's FY 2026 budget of $40 
million for the Federal Maritime Commission. This will fund 
FMC's mission and statutorily driven activity, as well as 
important technology investments. This level of funding 
reflects no change from the 2025 enacted budget.
    As in past years, our budget is straightforward, with the 
majority of funding going to personnel, office space, and 
important information technology. We have budgeted $25.8 
million for employee salaries and benefits, a reduction from FY 
2025 of $2 million.
    The Commission had 13 employees depart under the deferred 
resignation program, the voluntary retirement program. They 
will be paid from the FMC budget until the end of 2025.
    We are working with OPM for six exemptions to hire critical 
attorneys and economists in our flag ship competition and 
enforcement programs in line with the administration's 4-to-1 
hiring ratio.
    Finally, that leaves rent and security services of $4.2 
million, a slight increase of $150,000 from FY 2025.
    Also, $6 million has been budgeted for badly needed core IT 
operations and modernization. The remainder consists of all 
other budget requirements to support essential operational 
needs.
    This $40 million allows us to effectively carry out our 
mission, identifying and assertively investigating conduct that 
unlawfully disadvantages U.S. interests essential to protect 
marketplace integrity.
    OSRA 22 has better prepared the FMC to meet the demands for 
its services and to respond to developments in the marketplace. 
The Commission issued two OSRA 22 mandated final rules in 2024: 
detention and demurrage billing practices; and unreasonable 
refusal to deal with respect to vessel space.
    Two rulemakings remain to be completed: our Shipping 
Exchange Registry; and certain outstanding elements of unfair 
or unjustly discriminatory methods.
    Although the two final rules are operational today, we are 
still involved in litigation over the final outcome.
    Section 10 of the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022 
established a new way for shippers to submit complaints to the 
Commission. These are regarding charges assessed by common 
carriers, and to receive a refund or waiver for noncompliant 
charges. Those charge complaints were voluntarily resolved 
during the investigations phase, we are pleased to say.
    Next year, the FMC will propose a rulemaking for fast 
resolution of disputed charges in which the ocean carrier is 
ordered to demonstrate the lawfulness of a charge.
    The Commission is guided by the purposes of one of the 
sections of the shipping act, including ``encourage an 
economically sound and efficient liner fleet of vessels of the 
United States capable of meeting national security needs.'' I 
applaud President Trump for emphasizing the importance of both 
the U.S. military, U.S. Coast Guard, and commercial maritime 
sectors.
    We appreciate the Congress and the Commission's support and 
the Congress' support to fund the FMC at $40 million for FY 
2026.
    Thank you. I will be glad to answer your questions.
    [Ms. Dye's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
   Prepared Statement of Hon. Rebecca F. Dye, Commissioner, Federal 
                          Maritime Commission
    Chairman Ezell, Ranking Member Carbajal, Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for holding this hearing and for your interest 
in the responsibilities of the Federal Maritime Commission (FMC or 
Commission).
    As you are aware, my friend and colleague, Louis E. Sola, departed 
on June 30, 2025, and we look forward to news of his future endeavors. 
There is a smooth transition and there will be consistency in dealing 
with the international ocean supply chain and shipping issues of most 
importance to each of you and your constituents.
    The Commission will continue to emphasize strong enforcement and 
compliance, protecting exporters and importers from potential 
anticompetitive behavior, supporting port and marine terminal process 
improvements to strengthen our international ocean freight delivery 
system, and revitalizing the American merchant marine industry.
    I applaud President Trump for emphasizing the criticality of both 
the U.S. military and commercial maritime sectors and prioritizing the 
growth of the maritime industry. The President is taking the actions 
necessary to develop a vibrant maritime industry that creates economic 
security for many and national security benefits for us all.
    I support the President's FY 2026 budget of $40 million for the 
Federal Maritime Commission, which will fully fund the FMC's mission 
and statutory-driven activity, as well as important technology 
investments. This level of funding reflects no change from the FY 2025 
enacted budget.
    As in past years, our budget is straightforward, with the majority 
of funding going to personnel, office space, and important information 
technology (IT). We have budgeted $25.8 million for employee salary and 
benefits, a reduction from FY 2025 of $2 million. That leaves rent and 
security services at $4.2 million, a slight increase of $150,000 from 
FY 2025. Finally, $6 million has been budgeted for core IT operations 
and modernization. The remainder consists of all other budget 
requirements to support essential operational needs.
    The $40 million budget allows us to effectively carry out our 
mission: identifying and assertively investigating conduct that 
unlawfully disadvantages U.S. interests is essential to protect 
marketplace integrity.
                        I. Statutory Authorities
OSRA 2022
    The most recent update to the Commission's statutory authorities 
took place when the Ocean Shipping Reform Act (OSRA 2022) was enacted, 
positioning the Commission to be even better prepared to meet the 
demand for its services and to respond to developments in the 
marketplace. The Commission issued two OSRA 2022 mandated final rules 
in 2024:
      Detention and Demurrage Billing Practices; and
      Unreasonable Refusal to Deal With Respect to Vessel Space 
Accommodations.

    With both of these rules now in force, only two rulemakings remain 
to be completed: the Shipping Exchange Registry and completing any 
elements of Unfair or Unjustly Discriminatory Methods that were not 
included as part of the Final Rule on Unreasonable Refusal to Deal.
      Elements of both the Final Rule on Detention and Billing 
Practices and the Final Rule on Unreasonable Refusal to Deal With 
Respect to Vessel Space Accommodations are being legally challenged by 
the World Shipping Council.
      Oral arguments in the Detention and Demurrage case has 
been heard before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit and we 
are awaiting the court's ruling. Oral arguments in the Refusal to Deal 
case is scheduled for September 9, 2025.

    The Commission is guided by the purposes section of the Shipping 
Act: to ``encourage an economically sound and efficient liner fleet of 
vessels of the United States capable of meeting national security needs 
and supporting commerce [,]'' 46 United States Code (U.S.C.) Sec.  
40101(3). The Commission is using all its authorities to meet this 
goal.
    Here are other statutory authorities of the Federal Maritime 
Commission that support commerce:
Unfavorable Conditions in Foreign Trade, Section 19 Authority
(Chapter 421 of Title 46, United States Code) (46 U.S.C. Sec. Sec.  
        42106, 42107)
    The Commission may investigate and address general or special 
conditions unfavorable to shipping in the foreign trade when the 
conditions are attributable to laws or regulations of a foreign 
country, or competitive methods, pricing practices, or other practices 
of foreign vessel operating common carriers, including container 
vessels. The Commission has very broad authority under this provision, 
including over entities it does not typically regulate under the 
Shipping Act, such as vessel owners, and over a wider scope of 
activities, including other services and activities integral to 
transportation systems. The Commission may initiate an investigation on 
its own, or in response to a petition.
Foreign Shipping Practices Act
(Chapter 423 of Title 46, United States Code) (46 U.S.C. Sec. Sec.  
        42304, 42305)
    This authority is narrower than the Commission's Section 19 
authority. It is tailored to address laws, regulations, or practices of 
a foreign government, or practices of a foreign carrier, that adversely 
affect U.S.-flag common carriers and that do not exist for foreign-flag 
carriers. The Commission has extensive authority to address these 
conditions by imposing restrictions or fines on foreign-flag vessel-
operating common carriers.
Foreign-to-Foreign Jurisdiction
(Chapter 411 of Title 46, United States Code) (46 U.S.C. Sec.  
        41108(d))
    The FMC has jurisdiction over actions by foreign governments or 
foreign carriers that impair access of U.S.-flag vessels to ocean trade 
between foreign ports. The FMC's authority to respond to these 
conditions is extensive, mirroring that under the Foreign Shipping 
Practices Act. This statutory provision refers to U.S.-flag vessels and 
is broader than the statute's definition of a common carrier. It 
empowers the Commission to address access restrictions imposed on bulk, 
tramp, tanker, or other kinds of vessels so long as they are U.S.-
flagged. This results in the scope of the Commission's foreign-to-
foreign jurisdiction being broader than its jurisdiction under the 
Foreign Shipping Practices Act.
Controlled Carrier Act
(Chapter 407 of Title 46, United States Code) (46 U.S.C. Sec.  40701)
    Ocean carriers may benefit from different forms of direct and 
indirect governmental support. In instances where that subsidization 
goes from support to control, the Commission designates the shipping 
company as a Controlled Carrier. A Controlled Carrier is an ocean 
common carrier operating in the U.S.-foreign trades that is, or whose 
operating assets are, directly or indirectly owned or controlled by a 
foreign government. Controlled carriers are subject to enhanced 
regulatory oversight by the Commission.
    By statute, the Commission monitors government-controlled carriers, 
whose marketplace decision-making can be influenced by foreign 
governmental priorities or by their access to non-market sources of 
capital, to ensure that they do not engage in unreasonable below-cost 
pricing, which would disrupt trade or harm privately owned shipping 
companies.
    Since 2024, the Commission has added four companies to the 
Controlled Carrier list. Today, six are from the People's Republic of 
China (COSCO, OOCL, OOCL Europe, HEDE, ANJI, and Chipolbrok) and one is 
from the Republic of Korea (HMM).
    Additionally, pursuant to section 14 of OSRA 2022 (section 46106(b) 
of Title 46, United States Code), the Commission is required to 
identify otherwise concerning practices by ocean carriers, particularly 
controlled carriers, that are:
    (A)  State-owned or State-controlled enterprises; or
    (B)  Owned or controlled by a subsidiary of, or related legally or 
financially to a corporation in a nonmarket economy country, identified 
by the U.S. Trade Representative as a priority foreign country or 
subject to monitoring by the U.S. Trade Representative.

    The Commission is currently developing a methodology to identify 
otherwise concerning practices by ocean carriers in the above-mentioned 
countries.
                      II. Supporting U.S. Commerce
    Using the above referenced statutory authorities, the Federal 
Maritime Commission carries out enforcement matters and investigations. 
Below are some of the Commission's ongoing investigations.
    Lake Carriers Investigation (Investigation Into Conditions 
Affecting United States Carriers in Connection With Canadian Ballast 
Water Regulation in the United States/Canada Great Lakes Trade, 89 FR 
44979 (May 22, 2024))
      The Commission is statutorily authorized to investigate 
and take remedial measures to address laws or policies of foreign 
governments that discriminate against U.S.-flag vessels.
      The Commission has been investigating and monitoring the 
impacts of Canadian ballast water regulations on U.S.-flag vessels 
since 2020. The core issue is whether Canadian regulations would 
require U.S.-flag vessels to install new, expensive, and unnecessary 
ballast water management systems.
      The Commission initiated a targeted Chapter 423 
investigation in May 2024 of the impact of the Canadian regulations on 
specific U.S.-flag vessels built after a certain date. In response, 
Canada developed a process for U.S.-flag vessels to request exemptions 
from the regulations, and all covered vessels were exempted. Due to 
this successful outcome, the Commission closed its Chapter 423 
investigation in December 2024.
      The Chapter 421 Investigation remains open. FMC continues 
to investigate and monitor the impact of Canada's ballast water 
regulations on all U.S.-flag vessels, regardless of build date, in 
anticipation of Canada's planned 2030 full implementation of its 
ballast water rules.

    Spain Investigation (Investigation Into Conditions Affecting 
Shipping in the Foreign Trade and Denial of Entry of Vessels Into 
Spanish Ports, 89 FR 96973 (Dec. 6, 2024))
      FMC is authorized by statute to investigate and take 
remedial measures to address laws or policies of foreign governments 
that discriminate against U.S.-flag vessels.
      FMC initiated an investigation in December 2024 because 
reports that the Government of Spain had denied port entry to U.S.-flag 
vessels participating in the U.S. Department of Transportation's 
Maritime Administration's (MARAD) Maritime Security Program.
      Comment period closed on December 26, 2024. The FMC 
received 8,323 comments. The Government of Spain filed a comment that 
focused on their sovereignty rather than on their reasons for refusing 
port access.
      The Commission continues to investigate and will make 
public findings this year.

    Chokepoints Investigation (Order of Investigation Into Transit 
Constraints at International Maritime Chokepoints, 90 FR 12158 (March 
14, 2025))
      The Commission is authorized by statute to investigate 
unfavorable shipping conditions caused by the laws, regulations, or 
practices of foreign governments or the practices of foreign-flag 
vessel owners or operators.
      FMC initiated an investigation of conditions at seven key 
global chokepoints--the English Channel, the Malacca Strait, the 
Northern Sea Passage, the Singapore Strait, the Panama Canal, the 
Strait of Gibraltar, and the Suez Canal.
      The comment period closed on May 13, 2025. Thirteen 
comments were filed, including from the Panama Canal Authority and the 
Government of Singapore.
      The Commission continues this investigation and may reach 
out to specific governments or commercial entities for additional 
information.

    Flags of Convenience Investigation (Investigation Into Flags of 
Convenience and Unfavorable Conditions Created by Certain Flagging 
Practices, 90 FR 21926 (May 22, 2025))
      The Commission is statutorily authorized to investigate 
unfavorable shipping conditions caused by the laws, regulations or 
practices of foreign governments or the practices of foreign-flag 
vessel owners or operators.
      The Commission initiated an investigation of the flagging 
rules and practices of foreign governments in May 2025. The 90-day 
public comment period will close on August 20, 2025.
      Initial indications are that vessel registration 
practices of certain foreign countries, so-called flags of convenience, 
are creating unfavorable shipping conditions in the foreign trade of 
the United States. These flags enable unsafe vessels to operate, and 
further enable shadow fleet activity and the evasion of sanctions.
      There has been a race to the bottom--a situation where 
flag states compete by lowering standards and easing compliance 
requirements, lowering the cost of flagging vessels beyond a point 
where the efficiency, reliability, and safety of the vessels used in 
the ocean shipping supply chain can be assured. The use of these flags 
of convenience endangers the U.S. ocean shipping supply chain.
      The Commission will review all filed comments and 
determine next steps later this year.

    Unfortunately, not all foreign ship registries share a commitment 
with the United States to ocean shipping integrity and accountability. 
This lack of ship registry accountability not only disadvantages U.S.-
flag shipping, but also presents a problem in addressing smuggling 
operations, sanctions evasion, disguised ownership, and other 
irregularities.
    Aggressively investigating and enforcing the law against foreign 
conduct that disadvantages U.S.-flag interests is an incentive to 
registering ships under the United States flag, as the United States is 
prepared to intervene legally on behalf of U.S.-flag vessels.
    Shipowners have a multitude of options to register their vessels, 
and the ability of the Federal Maritime Commission to take direct 
action to enforce the law against discriminatory behavior of other 
foreign governments or foreign-flag carriers, with the involvement of 
the President, Federal agencies, and Federal courts, is a unique 
benefit to U.S.-flagged vessels.
                      III. Competition Enforcement
    The FMC's Competition Enforcement Program monitors filed agreements 
to ensure that collaboration between vessel-operating common carriers 
(VOCCs) and/or marine terminal operators, which compete against each 
other in the market, do not result in a reduction in competition that 
produces unreasonable increases in transportation costs or unreasonable 
decreases in transportation services. (46 U.S.C. Sec.  41307 (b)(1)).
    The number of major carriers in the U.S. transpacific and 
transatlantic trades has decreased from 20 in 2015 to 11 by 2022, due 
to ocean carrier mergers and the bankruptcy of one major carrier.
    The Federal Maritime Commission and the U.S. Department of Justice 
(DOJ) have a statutory division of competition authority over 
international liner shipping in the U.S. trades. The DOJ reviews and 
approves mergers of ocean carriers. The FMC analyzes the competitive 
market effects of collaborative agreements among competitors, such as 
vessel sharing agreements (alliances are vessel sharing agreements that 
operate globally) or joint ventures. It is noted that market 
concentration results from mergers, not from the market effects of 
collaborative agreements among competitors.
    While it may be characterized as an exemption, the Shipping Act of 
1984 is not an exemption from the antitrust laws, but an alternative 
competition regime put in place by Congress in recognition of the 
multinational nature of international ocean shipping and importance of 
working with our international trading partners in this arena.
    The FMC, with its specialized knowledge and expertise, is the 
agency responsible for administering this alternative competition law. 
The basic framework for initial analysis aligns with established 
guidelines used for evaluating collaboration among competitors and is 
performed by attorneys, economists, and industry analysts who are 
experts in the ocean transportation system.
    Agreements that may pose competitive concerns are subject to 
continuous monitoring by Commission staff. The Commission validates the 
data and information collected through our monitoring with external 
sources of information on ship schedules, capacity, and measures of 
cargo moved. The FMC also regularly reviews and revises monitoring data 
to ensure that the data collected aligns with the realities of the 
industry.
    During the pandemic, blank sailings were a particular concern 
because of their potential to be used for anti-competitive purposes. 
Our monitoring, however, indicated that this reduced service by ocean 
carriers was driven by port congestion rather than a desire to reduce 
capacity, and delays and skipped ports have been a frequent occurrence. 
The Commission staff have reviewed the data collected on blank sailings 
to assess the factors driving schedule delays and blanked sailings.
    Protecting the integrity of the marketplace is one of the key 
missions of the FMC and the linchpin of these efforts is our 
competition program. Accurate, insightful, in-depth analysis is 
essential to monitoring the behavior of carrier agreements, especially 
shipping alliances. The Commission took two important actions in 2024 
to bolster its abilities to review newly filed agreements and monitor 
filed agreements for anticompetitive effects.
      First, the Commission issued a policy statement in July 
2024 announcing that it may use its investigatory authorities, 
including fact finding investigations, when reviewing the competitive 
effects of some cooperative agreements among ocean carriers or marine 
terminal operators.
      Separately, in December 2024 the Commission moved primary 
responsibility for its monitoring program from the Bureau of Trade 
Analysis economists to the Office of the General Counsel attorneys, a 
realignment I strongly supported. The consolidation fosters greater 
efficiency and integration in the legal and economic review of 
competition analysis. As a result, the Commission will be able to 
conduct more extensive reviews of filed agreements and ensure that 
there are no current anticompetitive effects regarding agreements that 
are in effect.
                         IV. Alliance Structure
    Most large VOCCs participate in alliances, which are agreements 
between competitors to rationalize vessel utilization and trade lanes. 
Alliance members are expressly prohibited from agreeing on pricing and 
agreeing on prices within an alliance carries severe criminal 
consequences. In 2025, the world's largest VOCC, Swiss-based 
Mediterranean Shipping Company (MSC), determined to operate independent 
of its previous alliance, although it currently cooperates with the 
Premier Alliance.
    As it currently stands, there are three alliances:
    1)  Gemini (Hapag-Lloyd and Maersk);
    2)  Ocean (COSCO, OOCL, CMA, and Evergreen); and
    3)  Premier (HMM, ONE, and Yang Ming)).

    The three alliances comprise 70% of U.S. trade, and MSC, which on 
its own covers 15% of U.S. trade. The remaining 15% of U.S. trade is 
served by smaller carriers.
    The alliance system benefits U.S. trade by helping maintain a 
larger number of VOCCs in U.S. trades and disincentivizing further 
mergers and consolidation. VOCCs can join together to create 
efficiencies and economies of scale without the permanence of a merger. 
The system also promotes a steady level of service and shipping options 
in the U.S.
    The withdrawal of MSC from the now dissolved 2M Alliance (Maersk 
and MSC) resulted in the filing of two new alliance agreements: the 
Gemini Cooperation Agreement and the Premier Alliance Agreement. In 
both alliances, the Commission issued a Request for Additional 
Information (RFAI) to obtain documents and verifiable information 
necessary to achieve clarity on matters that were not addressed by 
filing parties or where insufficient information was provided in the 
originally filed agreements. The Gemini and Premier agreements are now 
fully in effect.
                         V. Commission Matters
    In addition to all the previously described enforcement activities 
and responsibilities of the FMC above, the Commission's jurisdiction 
covers many areas across the supply chain. For example, one notable 
investigation was in regard to OCEMA Box Rules. In a complaint case 
filed by an association of truckers, the Commission found that in four 
national transportation markets, ocean common carriers' restrictions 
limiting truckers and shippers to the carriers' designated chassis 
provider violate the Shipping Act, and ordered those practices to 
immediately cease so truckers and shippers can negotiate and deal with 
chassis providers they choose. Ocean carriers had benefited financially 
from the restrictions they imposed on truckers and shippers.
      Reports that ocean carriers continued to enforce their 
unlawful restrictions in violation of the cease and desist order led 
the Commission to launch an investigation, subpoena documents and 
testimony from the carriers and other transportation providers and 
conduct in-person site visits at facilities servicing the Memphis 
region to document actual practices and barriers to truckers and 
shippers using chassis providers they choose.
      The Commission's Bureau of Enforcement, Investigations, 
and Compliance (BEIC) concluded its investigation and reported its 
findings earlier this year. BEIC concluded that carriers have changed 
their practices, as ordered by the Commission, so that truckers and 
shippers in the markets covered by the order are no longer restricted 
to carriers' designated chassis providers and can choose other options.
      After the Commission ordered certain restrictive 
practices to cease, the parties continued to litigate other claims 
raised by the truckers' association, and the Commission's Chief 
Administrative Law Judge dismissed as moot those remaining claims 
because intervening changes in the chassis market, including increased 
reliance on trucker-owned chassis, alleviated conditions the truckers 
sued to remedy. A motion by the ocean common carriers asking the 
Commission to reconsider and vacate the cease and desist order is 
pending before the Commission.

    Additionally, the Commission reviewed a proposed amendment to the 
New York Shipping Exchange (NYSHEX) Agreement, which initially became 
effective on December 2, 2017. The Agreement intended to offer an 
American-based shipping index. Upon review of the proposed amendment 
that was filed in January 2025, the Commission issued an RFAI. The 
amendment to the NYSHEX agreement is now in effect.
                       VI. Significant Litigation
    In addition to ongoing investigations, the Commission has cases 
pending in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia 
Circuit:
      World Shipping Council v. FMC (D.C. Cir. No. 24-1088)--
World Shipping Council, a trade association for ocean carriers, 
challenged the Commission's OSRA 2022-based demurrage and detention 
billing rule as it applies to the billing of truckers. The case was 
argued on March 13, 2025, and is pending a decision.
      World Shipping Council v. FMC (D.C. Cir. No. 24-1298)--
World Shipping Council challenged FMC's OSRA 2022-based rulemaking on 
unreasonable refusal to deal. The case has been briefed and is awaiting 
oral argument.
      Evergreen Shipping Agency (America) Corp. v. FMC (D.C. 
Cir. No. 25-1104)--Evergreen, a Taiwan-based VOCC, challenged the FMC's 
decision that it could not bill demurrage to a motor carrier on certain 
days when a port was closed and equipment could not be returned, and 
the equipment was not available for pickup until the port's closure. 
The case is currently in briefing.

    Recently, on June 24 2025, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 
District of Columbia Circuit issued its decision in Mediterranean 
Shipping Co. v. FMC (D.C. Cir. No. 24-1262). MSC, a Swiss-headquartered 
VOCC, had challenged FMC's decision in a private complaint case, in 
which the FMC ruled against the company because it refused to 
participate in discovery. The D.C. Cir. Court denied MSC's petition and 
determined that it was reasonable for the Commission to find that MSC's 
actions undermined the agency's authority.
                    VII. Informal Dispute Resolution
    The Commission is a venue for resolving disputes related to ocean 
shipping. This can be done informally and cooperatively though the 
Office of Consumer Affairs and Dispute Resolution Services (CADRS) or 
adjudicated through more structured, formal, and traditional litigation 
options. Across the board, the demand for Commission services remains 
strong.
    In FY 2025 to date, CADRS has received more than 1,000 requests for 
assistance, resulting in more than 300 cases being opened.
    Section 10 of the Ocean Shipping Reform Act 2022 established a new 
way for shippers to submit complaints to the Commission regarding 
charges assessed by common carriers and to receive a refund or waiver 
for non-compliant charges, 46 U.S.C. Sec.  41310. From the start of FY 
2025 to date, the FMC received 209 charge complaints. Of those, 118 
were appropriate for the charge complaint process and assigned for 
investigation. Since OSRA 2022, the total amount of charge complaints 
refunded or waived during this period has been over $5 million.
    While most charge complaints were voluntarily resolved during the 
investigation phase, the FMC's process also provides for fast 
resolution of non-compliant charges disputed by the parties through a 
proceeding before the Commission where the carrier is ordered to 
demonstrate the lawfulness of a charge. This temporary process has 
provided practical experience the Commission will include in a 
rulemaking that it will initiate to establish a permanent procedure for 
administering Charge Complaints. A rulemaking regarding the Charge 
Complaint process will begin in FY 2026.
                     VIII. Adjudicatory Proceedings
    Adjudicatory proceedings at the FMC have increased dramatically in 
recent years, and this increased pace is expected to continue in 
upcoming years. FY 2024 was the Office of the Administrative Law 
Judge's (OALJ) busiest year on record with the highest caseload in 
decades. In FY 2024, the OALJ both received and resolved more cases 
than in prior years. We anticipate finishing FY 2025 with a significant 
number of new cases.
    To address this additional demand, the Commission now has five 
Administrative Law Judges (three permanent, two detailed from the U.S. 
Department of Health and Human Services (HHS)) presiding over cases 
involving multiple parties in which potential damages can run into the 
millions of dollars. The Commission has seen a sharp increase in the 
motions practice before its ALJs.
    The Commission's Small Claims Officer, located within the OALJ, has 
the highest number of pending cases ever recorded, and is on a pace to 
double.
    Formal complaints, small claims, and CADRS activity demonstrate 
that the Commission is serving the U.S. shipper community.
    The Commission continues to carry out its mission critical 
statutory responsibilities, making it a vital agency serving the 
American public. From helping small shippers informally resolve 
shipping disputes to adjudicating cases that establish precedent to 
resolve shipping disputes in the future, the FMC provides a wide range 
of services and resources to all parties involved in international 
ocean freight delivery. The FMC continued its critical mission to 
ensure coemption and integrity for America's oceanic supply chain. We 
have appreciated the President and Congress' support to fund the FMC at 
$40 million for FY 2026.

    Mr. Ezell. Thank you for your testimony. We will now turn 
to questions from the panel.
    I will recognize myself for 5 minutes for questions.
    The global ocean shipping market is increasingly dominated 
by foreign state bad actors, bad carriers, particularly from 
China, which raises concerns about unfair competition and 
potential harm to U.S. mariners, shippers, and long-term supply 
chain operations.
    Does the Commission have enough resources to protect U.S. 
mariners and shippers from unfair practices by foreign state-
sponsored carriers like those backed by the Chinese Government?
    Ms. Dye. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We do. One of the 
advantages of a small agency, I have found, is that we are able 
to pivot much more quickly than giant organizations. And we 
have reorganized our competition office to combine our 
economists with our attorneys working on competition.
    And I have long supported this approach. And it will make 
us much more effective. And we have also refocused our 
enforcement regime to make sure that we are using those 
resources effectively.
    So, thank you very much. I am confident that we will be 
effective.
    Mr. Ezell. Very good.
    The Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, OSRA, expanded the 
FMC's authority to regulate detention and demurrage practices, 
investigate discriminatory behavior by carriers, and enhance 
protections for shippers.
    Where is the FMC on OSRA implementation? When do you expect 
full implementation of OSRA? How have shippers benefited since 
OSRA's passage?
    Ms. Dye. As I reported, we have completed two of the most 
important regulations. And we are waiting to see the final 
court action on those. But today, ocean carriers are complying 
with those regulations.
    Mr. Ezell. Very good.
    Ms. Dye. We get good reports about the operation of those. 
We still are working on the Exchange Registry and a small 
remainder of the discriminatory regulation that we will 
complete.
    We are also going to complete the new charge complaint 
regulation to make sure the public understands the approach. 
And we are in good shape in compliance with all the reports in 
OSRA as well.
    Mr. Ezell. Very good. The FMC recently launched an 
investigation into whether foreign vessel flagging laws, 
regulations, and practices create unfavorable conditions for 
U.S. trade. What prompted this investigation?
    What practices are you concerned about that could undermine 
fair maritime trade?
    Ms. Dye. Thank you. These authorities that I outlined in my 
statement for the record are advantageous to U.S.-flag ships. 
And we believe that it could provide a good grounding for a 
U.S. vessel registry to know that if there are problems, the 
United States will go to bat for you. And this is one of them.
    Flags of convenience are really open registries. Panama, 
Marshall Islands, and Liberia accept registrations from owners 
of vessels who are outside their residence. The United States 
has a closed registry. And many other major ones are closed 
registries.
    There has been a concern that the open registries, flags of 
convenience, are not as effective in enforcing regulations. And 
then, in some ways, their enforcement has been pushed off onto 
core states like the United States.
    These fact findings, these investigations are very 
flexible, they can be stood up quickly. They do not have, on 
their own, authority to require violations or anything like 
that.
    But we will get to the bottom of this. And then, of course, 
we will inform the Coast Guard.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you very much.
    I yield back.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. I now recognize Mr. Larsen.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Commissioner Dye, according to the budget request, most of 
the rulemakings have been completed as part of the OSRA. Can 
you report on the progress of the remaining rulemakings?
    Ms. Dye. On the remaining rulemakings?
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. The remaining rulemakings.
    Ms. Dye. We have made good progress on exchanges. We have a 
couple things to check out before we can complete this 
registration process. And the remaining discrimination parts 
that were not addressed in the refusal to deal rule have--we 
have begun those as well.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. And do you have a timeline, 
prospective timeline, a hopeful timeline?
    Ms. Dye. I would say as soon as we can turn our attention 
to it.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes. Related to that, we know the 
FMC has lost employees. And by our count, it's about 20 
percent. And whether it's 20 percent, or 19 percent, or 21 
percent, it's a lot; it doesn't make much difference.
    Could you outline the impacts of the loss of those folks 
and then not replacing folks has had on the work of the FMC?
    Ms. Dye. Well, as I reported, we are working with OPM on an 
exception for six employees, not new hires, but to replace 
people who have left.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Mm-hmm.
    Ms. Dye. We believe that with those that we will be in good 
shape.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes. And do you sense there's 
progress in getting them hired?
    Ms. Dye. That we want authority to hire those six.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Okay.
    Ms. Dye. To replace. I say--so we don't really consider 
those new hires, because they are----
    Mr. Larsen of Washington [interrupting]. I understand. I'm 
not arguing that point, it's more about whether OPM is being 
helpful in moving that forward.
    Ms. Dye. Very much.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. And are there people at OPM, 
enough people at OPM to help you do that?
    Do you feel like you are getting the service you need from 
OPM to get that done?
    Ms. Dye. They will grant us the exemption to hire. Of 
course, the head of the agency, which my general counsel 
informs me that we have plenty of authority, the three of us, 
to make decisions and to operate. And we have to--of course, we 
have to oversee any hirings.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes. Are you then looking at 
whether or not being short that number of folks is impacting 
the length of time it takes you to do any one investigation, 
the length of time it takes to manage a rulemaking?
    Ms. Dye. I think that we are, and I think my colleagues 
agree that we are in good shape.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes.
    Finally, section 10 of the OSRA established the charge 
complaint process.
    Ms. Dye. Right.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. And according to the budget 
request, the FMC has ordered to return over $2.5 million in 
refunds or canceled fees. Is that accurate?
    Ms. Dye. Yes.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes. Can you talk a little bit 
about why you are returning those?
    Ms. Dye. Well, we had, I think, a little over $5 million 
that was returned. But as I said, the good news is that when 
the process began, many of the fees were returned voluntarily.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Mm-hmm. How would you rate that 
as a marker of the success of the enforcement program? In 
general, how would you rate the success of the enforcement 
program?
    Ms. Dye. I think that some people believe, you know, we 
write a regulation, we pass a law, and it is effective, and 
people obey it. And if that were true, then there wouldn't need 
to be any law enforcement agencies.
    So, it takes--especially when there is a big change, it 
takes time, and resources, and commitment. Demurrage and 
detention charges are internationally despised.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Yes.
    Ms. Dye. And when we weighed in on this we knew it would be 
a hard slog. It is not over. But I think that we have had 
remarkable compliance so far. And we will keep at it.
    Honestly, I've said to my advisory committee, can't you 
think of a better way to get fluidity or encourage fluidity 
than these awful charges? There must be a better approach.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Right.
    Ms. Dye. Because it's the clunky type of service.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. Thank you. I am sure one of the 
parents of OSRA 2022 will have more questions. Mr. Garamendi 
will have more questions.
    Ms. Dye. I will look forward to it.
    Mr. Larsen of Washington. I will yield back.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    The Chair now recognizes Mr. McDowell for 5 minutes of 
questioning.
    Mr. McDowell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And thank you, Commissioner Dye, for being here. It is good 
to have another North Carolinian in the room today.
    Ms. Dye. Absolutely.
    Mr. McDowell. But, Commissioner, you stated that the FMC's 
budget request for FY 2026 is $40 million, which is level 
funding from fiscal year 2025.
    Ms. Dye. Yes.
    Mr. McDowell. So, within that budget, can you explain why 
you have set aside more funding for rent and security services, 
and why your resources needs are different from last year?
    Ms. Dye. Well, the biggest change in this budget is that we 
are dedicating more resources to IT. We were in the position 
that we literally could not buy parts for our system because 
they weren't made anymore.
    And so, we are pleased that we were able to devote more to 
those systems that will also benefit our shipping public.
    Mr. McDowell. Sure.
    Ms. Dye. But the one, you mean the $150,000?
    Mr. McDowell. Yes.
    Ms. Dye. Well, security costs have gone up. And I think 
that's--they went up.
    Mr. McDowell. Sure.
    Ms. Dye. The prices increased.
    Mr. McDowell. Yes. How does your commitment to carrying out 
the Commission's core objectives play into your budgeting 
process?
    Ms. Dye. I support the $40 million. As I said, this is 
level funding. We didn't get cut, which I think speaks well for 
our mission and our approach. And I am convinced that with our 
reorganizations and refocusing that we have done that we will 
be fine.
    Thank you.
    Mr. McDowell. Can you explain further how the Ocean 
Shipping Reform Act changed the FMC's operations?
    Ms. Dye. Well, we had a couple of rulemakings to 
accomplish. Some of the reports we have learned some very 
valuable information. And I support the bill. I think that the 
reform act has helped us, especially with charge complaints, 
have helped the shipping public deal with a lot of the----
    Mr. Ezell [interrupting]. The gentlelady will suspend.
    Will you suspend?
    Could you speak into the microphone just a little more, 
please? I am hard of hearing, and I can't hear you.
    Ms. Dye. Oh, I understand, sir. Right.
    Mr. Ezell. There you go. Thank you.
    Ms. Dye. Well, there you are. Is that better? Well, good. I 
hear myself better, too. Thank you.
    Mr. McDowell. Just to ask you another question, but the 
Commission has relatively broad authority to investigate 
unfavorable or anticompetitive shipping practices of foreign-
flagged vessels. Generally, what are the most common scenarios 
that require the Commission to intervene?
    Ms. Dye. Well, I think that I am not able to talk a lot 
about the existing investigations.
    Mr. McDowell. Sure.
    Ms. Dye. But those examples in my statement were good ones. 
Any time that the U.S. flag is disadvantaged, then I--as we had 
intervened for the Great Lakes carriers, certain carriers who 
were denied entry into Spanish ports. And I support those. And 
this fact finding authority has proved to be very valuable for 
us.
    Mr. McDowell. So, has the number of complaints increased or 
decreased since the Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022?
    Ms. Dye. Well, allowing the charge complaints has been very 
valuable. And it has allowed our shipping public an avenue to 
quickly resolve some charges, with the FMC overseeing it. And 
that has been effective.
    Mr. McDowell. Thank you, ma'am.
    And, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    Mr. Carbajal is recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Commissioner Dye, I am a strong supporter of the FMC. And I 
want to focus all my questions today on the recently announced 
flag of convenience investigation.
    Why did the FMC decide to initiate the investigation? In 
other words, what is the potential risk to Americans?
    Ms. Dye. And this is which one?
    Mr. Carbajal. The investigation that you recently opened, 
the flag of convenience.
    Ms. Dye. Oh. I think that, without talking about the 
reasoning or--but I think that one, as well as the others, is 
the facts that we develop will be worth any argument on the 
issue.
    Mr. Carbajal. What is the potential risk to Americans?
    Ms. Dye. For?
    Mr. Carbajal. The reason why you opened up this 
investigation.
    Ms. Dye. Oh. The risk is to any U.S.-flagged vessel, or the 
detriment.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    And what practices have foreign countries participated in 
that have resulted in the degradation of U.S.-flagged shipping?
    Ms. Dye. I am so sorry. I am having trouble hearing you.
    Mr. Carbajal. Okay, let me say that again.
    What practices have foreign countries participated in that 
have resulted in the degradation of U.S.-flagged shipping?
    Ms. Dye. The investigation in Spain, of course, has been--
there have been vessels, U.S.-flagged vessels, that have been 
turned away. And the other fact findings are, obviously, we had 
a good result with the Great Lakes carriers. And they were most 
pleased that we got involved. Our general counsel was able to 
work with the State Department. And that was an excellent 
result for them.
    And the others are facts that may be useful in the future 
to U.S.-flagged vessels, especially concerning our registry and 
how we may decide to change a U.S.-flag registry in the future.
    Mr. Carbajal. As a strong supporter of the U.S. merchant 
marine and the U.S.-flagged vessels, what actions are available 
to the FMC should you find that the use of flags of convenience 
has resulted in unfair shipping practices?
    Ms. Dye. Yes, well, at some point, even the President could 
become involved in taking action against foreign countries. The 
remedies are slightly different for each of these if a 
violation is found. And, of course, the fact findings that we 
are conducting now don't have proceeding authority.
    At this stage, we are finding facts in preparation for 
another proceeding if we develop the evidence.
    Mr. Carbajal. But what are some of the actions that you can 
take?
    Ms. Dye. Their ships could be prohibited from our ports. 
There are some monetary penalties.
    But they are slightly different for each one.
    Mr. Carbajal. Commissioner Dye, I must say I am 
disappointed with the administration's budget request. If 
Congress were to increase the FMC's budget, and you were able 
to rehire the 26 people that have been lost, what would that 
mean for the effectiveness of the agency? What kind of work 
would they be doing?
    Ms. Dye. We have reorganized in a way that we are--I 
shouldn't say reorganized. They tell me not to say that. We 
have refocused in a way that we are in good shape today.
    Mr. Carbajal. Well, I guess that feeds into the whole 
argument. If this is the case, maybe we should have done this 
reorganization in the past.
    Ms. Dye. Well, the past really doesn't exist. We are 
looking today and forward.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
    I yield back.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. Mr. Patronis is recognized for 5 minutes of 
questions.
    Mr. Patronis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Good afternoon.
    Ms. Dye. Hello.
    Mr. Patronis. Commissioner, I am sitting here, I am reading 
your resume. And you have seen a lot of activities over your 
time at the Commission. Thank you for your service to our 
Nation.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Patronis. I guess where I kind of get some anxiety is 
thinking about how dynamic the situation is. Kind of a tough 
place to be, as much as I would like to see as much stateside 
manufacturing, we are definitely--there is going to be those 
dependencies we have on goods coming in. And I can't imagine 
the dynamics of what happened at least with y'all's concerns 
during COVID, supply chain disruptions, and as you looked at 
where we are trying to at least onboard predictability.
    And then I am looking and I am thinking about the games 
that might be played by those other countries and their reports 
of getting into the U.S. market.
    Do you see, have you seen--if you wouldn't mind 
elaborating, I would love to understand, even if you want to--I 
learn by stories--if you have got an instance of what you have 
seen between the United States and China where they have done 
unfair practices, maybe leverage, or maybe if you saw anything 
during COVID, enlighten me. This is an opportunity for me to 
learn.
    Ms. Dye. Well, thank you. We have added a couple of the 
controlled carriers owned or subsidized by foreign countries.
    Mr. Patronis. Mm-hmm.
    Ms. Dye. Five of the six are Chinese. We are a competition 
agency primarily. And so, we are looking to make sure to 
continually look at their price structure to make sure that if 
there are subsidies, then they aren't used to below price, to 
the detriment of the other carriers that are not owned or 
controlled by foreign countries.
    And we will be watching even more carefully in, I think, 
October when the Trade Representative charges begin then that 
doesn't cause the controlled carriers to make some decisions or 
some pricing decisions that we think are a problem.
    Mr. Patronis. So, did you say that five of the six 
controlled carriers are subsidized by China?
    Ms. Dye. Yes. Five of the six are controlled.
    Mr. Patronis. Wow.
    Ms. Dye. Owned or controlled.
    Mr. Patronis. And I am assuming, one, they probably want 
that type of influence in order to continue their goods getting 
out to market. That also gets me super concerned of what type 
of dependence we have got when they have got that much control 
over the products that we depend upon.
    Ms. Dye. Well, there are plenty of carriers.
    Mr. Patronis. Okay.
    Ms. Dye. And we watch each of them. We don't have authority 
over actual mergers. We watch other combinations among the 
carriers. And unlike a merger, we watch them all the time. 
Continuous.
    Mr. Patronis. Okay.
    Ms. Dye. Continuous.
    Mr. Patronis. Of other countries having an influence over 
ownership, over carriers of this nature, who is number two, who 
is number three? Which other countries?
    Ms. Dye. Really, really we have one, one other one that is 
Korean.
    Mr. Patronis. Okay.
    Ms. Dye. And those are the only ones to date.
    It has been different in the past.
    Mr. Patronis. Sure. Sure. And, so, with no control over the 
mergers, are any of the carriers that China has influence over, 
were those acquired through acquisitions?
    Ms. Dye. OOCL was the Hong Kong company, was acquired.
    Mr. Patronis. Sure. Sure. Well, again, thank you for your 
service. I appreciate your answers and your time being here 
today.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Patronis. Mr. Chairman, I yield.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    The Chair recognizes Ms. Scholten for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Scholten. Thank you so much, Chair Ezell, and Ranking 
Member Carbajal.
    And welcome, Commissioner Dye. I appreciate you being here.
    So, the FMC's responsibility of protecting the U.S. 
shipping industry from foreign governments' unfair practices is 
particularly important to the Great Lakes region where I hail 
from, from Michigan.
    Ms. Dye. Yes.
    Ms. Scholten. A $36 billion a year industry that creates 
good-paying jobs and keeps our Nation's supply chains moving.
    When visiting the ports of Muskegon and Grand Haven in my 
district, the constituents frequently stress the need for 
strong but navigable ballast water regulations has had a huge 
impact on our waterways.
    So, Commissioner Dye, I understand that the FMC has 
investigated how Canada's ballast water regulations have 
impacted U.S. lakers. FMC's actions have resulted in the 
Canadian Government providing limited relief for American 
shippers.
    Can you talk us through specifically how you plan to stay 
on top of that issue, especially as we are continuing to see 
some pretty significant rollbacks on regulations around water 
protection across the board?
    Ms. Dye. Of course. And we will be following the Canadian 
response to ensure that it is effective, as we expect it to be. 
But no, this is not over if that approach is not effective.
    Ms. Scholten. Yes.
    Ms. Dye. But we have been very pleased.
    Ms. Scholten. Okay. Well, I appreciate continued engagement 
on what you and your administration will continue to do going 
forward. We think this is an important issue to stay on top of, 
not just simply a one-and-done response.
    I have a couple questions, so I want to keep moving on.
    But while I don't always see eye to eye with the current 
administration, I am very pleased to see the President focus on 
bolstering our maritime industry. That is one area we do agree 
on. I am willing to collaborate with the FMC to actualize this 
goal. Again, the industry is very important to the Great Lakes.
    This starts with appropriately reviewing and responding to 
complaints through the FMC's formal process.
    However, I am concerned with two FMC Commissioner 
vacancies, recent staff cuts to the tune of 20 percent, and 
flat funding requests. I am concerned that we aren't doing 
everything we can to make good under obligations under the 
Ocean Shipping Reform Act of 2022, something you, of course, 
had a big hand in getting through initially.
    Can you speak to how the FMC has internally reorganized, if 
at all, to ensure that flat funding and reduced staff will not 
hinder its ability to appropriately respond to and review the 
complaints that are filed?
    Ms. Dye. I appreciate it. Thank you.
    You can be sure that the FMC is functioning. We have under 
existing law, we still have a quorum, my general counsel tells 
me. And so, I don't think anyone should be concerned that the 
FMC is not on the job.
    Ms. Scholten. I think what this committee is looking for, 
though, is more than just a functioning FMC, one that can make 
sure of a robust response to these complaints when they are 
received. Once we have an invasive species entering our 
waterways, it is very hard to turn back the clock.
    So, simply showing up for quorum, respectfully, may not be 
enough at this point. And the concern with significantly 
reduced staffing does raise alarms about whether or not you are 
able to respond in an appropriate fashion. And I will say 
simply showing up for quorum doesn't seem to get to the heart 
of having enough people there.
    I have one more question I will go to. And if you have a 
more robust response, we would love to take one for the record, 
because it is of concern.
    So, continuing on there, the President's budget request of 
$40 million for the FMC is the same enacted amount as fiscal 
year 2025, and 20 percent less than the previous budget 
request. It reduces the workload significantly.
    Assuming Congress flat funds the FMC, as the President has 
requested, how else can this committee continue to support the 
FMC's efforts to reduce port congestion, boost transparency in 
the ocean shipping industry beyond annual appropriations?
    Ms. Dye. I think that we showed there was no diminution 
last year. And there will be no diminution next year. We were, 
we will continue to enforce the law and use our authorities to 
the fullest, but no more.
    And I am confident that you will be satisfied.
    Ms. Scholten. Well, thank you. We would love to have you 
back perhaps towards the end of the year or next year to 
continue to check in on that progress.
    I see that my time has expired but will yield back.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentlelady yields.
    The Chair recognizes Mr. Van Drew for 5 minutes.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Commissioner, thank you for being here. We appreciate your 
time.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Dr. Van Drew. The Coast Guard, as you know--and you know 
all this already--has recently accelerated the removal of 
navigational aids under the ATON modernization plan. Three 
hundred fifty buoys are currently slated for removal, as you 
also know, across the Northeast, with plans to expand this 
effort as we move along.
    I support the innovation. I support the Coast Guard. I 
support all of you. But I am concerned that we might be moving 
too quickly and that we at least should have some more local 
input on this issue. And I am going to tell you why.
    We already are seeing some consequences. I have--my 
district is a coastal district in the State of New Jersey. I 
have seen some grounding on shoals, near-misses involving 
commercial and recreational vessels, and increasing uncertainty 
in waterways that were once considered safe. And now there are 
some concerns among real people that I talk to that are out on 
the water.
    They are not isolated. They really exist. They are 
happening now. And I think we can prevent them.
    I think the work you are doing is good. The focus is good. 
But we have to make sure that we are doing this in a careful 
and circumspect way.
    In my district, many of the small mariners, including 
commercial operators, do not have advanced--believe it or not--
electronic navigation systems that the modernization effort 
assumes. And I think that's something we have to keep in mind 
as well. And some of them will not have it even into the near 
future.
    Even when the systems are available, you have got shifting 
tides, narrow passages, bad weather. You know the deal. It is 
no longer just a safety issue. It is also a commerce issue, a 
commercial issue. If commercial or fishing lanes become less 
predictable, we have more commercial problems.
    And I guess the committee included a provision in the Coast 
Guard Authorization Act--I don't guess, I know we did--to study 
the effect of removing these buoys. And that is a good thing. 
And that is going to pass this week on House suspension.
    Commissioner, until that point, have you been coordinating 
with the Coast Guard on this initiative? Could you fill us in a 
little bit on it?
    Ms. Dye. We have not on those issues.
    Dr. Van Drew. Okay.
    Ms. Dye. But I was 6 years on Active Duty with the Coast 
Guard. And I still have--at one point, some of my students were 
admirals in the highest level. You can be sure that on anything 
that involves them we will work with them.
    Dr. Van Drew. Good. And that is what I would hope. And I 
would say the same thing to the Coast Guard, too.
    Ms. Dye. Absolutely.
    Dr. Van Drew. The intention is good. And I think the result 
will be good. But I think we just have to be a little bit 
careful as we go about it.
    Ms. Dye. Of course.
    Dr. Van Drew. Make sure, like everything else we do in 
Government----
    Ms. Dye [interposing]. Of course.
    Dr. Van Drew [continuing]. We have to make sure we get it 
right.
    Thank you for your time.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Dr. Van Drew. I yield back.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    The Chair recognizes Mr. Garamendi for 5 minutes.
    I am working on it.
    Mr. Garamendi. I am having one of those mornings. I am not 
sure I can pronounce my own name. Garamendi.
    I think what I would like to do, if I might, my colleague 
at the far end of the dais here, Mr. Johnson, is the lead on 
the Ocean Shipping Reform Act improvement.
    So, if I might yield to Mr. Johnson my time, then I will 
follow up, since he is the lead on the new bill.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Well, that is unbelievably 
gracious. I think I am next in the queue, John. So, if you want 
to go, I am just going to spend at least 2 minutes talking 
about how great you and Commissioner Dye are, so.
    Mr. Garamendi. I yield to you.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Very good.
    Well, I'm going to note, I will echo what Mr. Patronis 
said, I mean, your service to our country, Commissioner, is 
incredible. I mentioned that when you were in the office the 
other day. To have the steady hand of somebody who understands 
this committee, understands these issues, who doesn't cycle out 
of Government because you get some shinier object somewhere, 
but you stay. President after President trusts you to do this 
work. It's incredible.
    And then John Garamendi, I mean, everybody in this town 
likes to fight. Somehow, John, you and I have figured out how 
to get the Ocean Shipping Reform Act done, Ocean Shipping 
Reform Implementation Act. And we have gotten a lot of good 
things done.
    So, with that I will, I will yield back to you, sir. Thank 
you.
    Mr. Garamendi. Well, you didn't do what I hoped you would 
do, which is really go through the detail. But you are kind to 
mention all of the work that has been done.
    We have actually come a very, very long way in providing 
the Commission with the tools it needs to deal with the reality 
of the international trade on the ocean. And the new piece of 
legislation, the reauthorization act, which Mr. Johnson is the 
lead on it this year, is going to further provide the necessary 
tools and strengthen the existing tools that the FMC needs to 
deal with a very rapidly changing environment.
    When we started, the 2022 bill really came about in part 
because of the pandemic and all of the changes that occurred 
there. The situation--that is, the ocean shipping situation--
remains very, very volatile. So, the new legislation will 
provide additional tools.
    I want to commend the Commission for taking up the 2022 
bill and using it to deal with practices that are simply not 
fair. It took a while to do it. We've had discussions about 
this in previous hearings. I remember one in California not so 
long ago that you were in the process of trying to understand 
the new law and then implement it in the regulatory processes 
using the rather difficult, but necessary, process of putting 
in place regulations and rules. I want to commend you for 
having done that.
    I see your colleague Commissioner back there who is 
interested in having done this piece of work.
    So, we are going to carry forward. The new piece of 
legislation provides some additional clarity and additional 
strength to the work you do.
    It also authorizes a higher level of funding, as has been 
talked about back and forth here, $49,200,000. It looks like 
you are probably going, if we can hold it, $40 million. In this 
environment, we ought to be quiet and take the money and run 
and go back to work.
    But the future is out there. So, if we can put in place an 
authorization of $49 million and then ramp it up ultimately in 
4 years to $57 million, you will be able to bring back on board 
the necessary staff and deal with the very rapidly changing.
    The tariff issues are out there. They are going to have an 
effect. If you would like to speak to that, Ms. Dye, I would 
encourage you to do so. Be careful, you don't want to go jump 
into that snakepit.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Garamendi. But just the effect that it may have on 
this.
    Ms. Dye. I talked and corresponded with several of our 
major ports recently. The reasons for port congestion are 
different.
    I have done now four major fact findings during periods of 
extreme dislocations. The results are always the same.
    Mr. Garamendi. Well----
    Ms. Dye [interrupting]. And that's why I look to 
encouraging more port processes that are clear and predictable. 
But the volatility is----
    Mr. Garamendi [continuing]. Well, we are going to be in a 
very volatile situation certainly for the remainder of this 
year, and perhaps on into the next year. It will have some 
significance.
    Also, the continued consolidation, and as you said earlier, 
five of the six biggest are really Government-controlled 
carriers. So, the FMC, the original reform and then the new 
reauthorization act will provide you with additional tools to 
deal with that.
    I know that Mr. Johnson will undoubtedly add to this and 
provide more clarity along the way.
    Thank you for your service, and your colleague there in the 
front row----
    Ms. Dye [interposing]. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Garamendi [continuing]. That would be to the far right 
or the far left. Right down the middle.
    I yield back.
    Oh, one more, if I might.
    Mr. Ezell. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Garamendi. I want to thank the chairman of the 
committee and the ranking member of the committee. The 
reauthorization act is your work as well as Mr. Johnson's and 
mine. Thank you, both of you, for your support and for your 
insight in the development of the bill.
    Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you very much.
    The Chair recognizes Mr. Johnson for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I 
will pick up where Mr. Garamendi left off, which is on the FMC 
reauthorization.
    Commissioner, I am not--number one, thank you to your team 
for providing technical assistance. I am not really talking 
about the tweaks and the edits they suggested, but more big 
picture.
    When you reviewed the FMC reauthorization bill, what were 
your general observations? Did you think we hit the center of 
the target?
    Ms. Dye. I think so. I think so.
    I think that we had suggestions. Be glad to sit down and 
talk with you about those and work anything out.
    I don't think we had any extreme changes. And there were 
things that the FMC had recommended.
    We appreciate it very much. Thank you.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. And one of the things, and, 
listen, it's not an earth-shattering reauthorization, but all 
the more reason for Congress--and, again, I will echo what Mr. 
Garamendi said, thank you to the leadership of the committee 
for doing our regular blocking and tackling work.
    Sometimes we wait so long, we are driven by crisis, that we 
don't take care of the day-to-day, year-to-year maintenance. 
Reauthorizing solid agencies like FMC in a timely manner is 
helpful.
    It's not going to transform the nature of your work, but I 
would think it provides some additional stability, additional 
predictability for you, the other two Commissioners currently 
in place, as well as the staff.
    But, okay, we have got Congress has once again given us an 
imprimatur. They want our work to continue. So, we get not 
earth shattering but, Commissioner, I think you would probably 
agree, helpful nonetheless?
    Ms. Dye. Oh, I had a couple suggestions. The staff had seen 
some other things. I think in short order, we can discuss 
those. I don't see any major problems. I appreciate it. Thank 
you.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. So, moving back to OSRA, you 
had mentioned in your testimony that, of course, that brought 
the number of complaints up. Your experience with that is 
causing the Commission to enter into a rule promulgation on a 
more permanent process.
    Talk to us a little bit more about the lessons learned and 
how that may translate into a new process?
    Ms. Dye. I think the thing that surprised me, pleased me, 
that with the FMC's involvement, people suddenly decided that 
they would refund money. And so, it went much more smoothly 
than I had anticipated.
    So, I think the overall revenue doesn't really represent 
the effectiveness of the approach.
     Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. And I am reminded, 
Commissioner, when then-Chairman Maffei was in my office, 
before OSRA had passed, he had observed that just the specter 
of the bill--specter may be a more ominous definition than I 
intend--but clearly it was bipartisan, clearly Mr. Garamendi 
and I were engaged in a real lawmaking exercise. We wanted to 
get done. And the writing was on the wall, we were going to get 
this done.
    Chair Maffei had mentioned that behavior was already 
changing in the marketplace----
    Ms. Dye [interposing]. Yes.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota [continuing]. In anticipation 
of that.
    And I think it is one good reminder that when you all, of 
course you all are the day-to-day cops on the beat, and yet 
Congress, when we are doing good oversight, when we are engaged 
in making sure that you all had the tools needed to do your 
job, we do get a healthier, fairer, and more robust 
marketplace.
    What am I getting wrong?
    Ms. Dye. No. I think that you are right. And as we just 
discussed, enforcement is never over. Right? And we don't 
expect it to be. There are always different approaches to color 
outside the lines.
    But I am very pleased with the way things are going. We 
have--I think I had recommended in fact finding 29 that all 
these companies have compliance officers, people that we could 
call up immediately. And that is working out well.
    And I think that that has shown some paydirt, too.
    Mr. Johnson of South Dakota. So, I would close by saying 
this, Mr. Chairman. This might be the least sexy hearing going 
on on Capitol Hill today. No disrespect to Commissioner Dye.
    But it is just responsible management of Government. And 
one of the reasons that I fought to get on this committee is 
because I knew it would be populated by people like Mr. Larsen 
and Mr. Graves who have worked together to get--even though 
they are different parties--and Mr. Ezell and Mr. Carbajal, and 
Mr. Maffei and Ms. Dye, Mr. Garamendi and Mr. Johnson, people 
who do not take the same perverse joy in fighting. Instead, 
they just want an America that works.
    Thank you for being a part of that solution.
    Mr. Chairman, I would yield.
    Ms. Dye. Thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields.
    That was pretty good there, Mr. Johnson, thank you.
    All right. Thank you. The gentleman yields back.
    Are there any further questions from any members of the 
subcommittee who have not been recognized?
    Seeing none, that concludes our hearing today.
    I would like to thank you, Ms. Dye, for being here today.
    That concludes the subcommittee hearing, we stand 
adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 3:03 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]


                                Appendix

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   Questions to Hon. Rebecca F. Dye, Commissioner, Federal Maritime 
                  Commission, from Hon. John Garamendi

    Question 1. According to the McCown Container Volume Observer: ``It 
is now most likely there will be a decline in overall annual inbound 
volume in 2025 . . . I'm only aware of two periods of annual decline--
during the financial crisis and the pandemic--and both proved to be 
short lived. . . . The downturn in 2025 will be due to tariffs and 
unfortunately there is nothing at present that suggests it will be 
short-lived.'' Volumes are also reduced at smaller points like the Port 
of Oakland in California. Drastic, unpredictable swings in tariff 
policies have the potential to seriously strain supply chains and 
maritime commerce.
    Question 1.a. Commissioner Dye, given the Commission's mission to 
ensure a competitive and reliable international ocean transportation 
system, how do significant fluctuations in port volumes complicate your 
work?
    Answer. The U.S. international ocean shipping supply chain is a 
complex system, much like an ecosystem or the human brain. For this 
reason, the potential for negative consequences of government 
regulation in the interconnecting networks of the international ocean 
supply system is great. I have served as a Commission Fact Finding 
Officer for four major investigations, two of which specifically 
addressed international ocean supply chain bottlenecks. Those 
investigations serve as a reminder of the complexity of the ocean liner 
system and its inherent unpredictability. The causes for fluctuations 
in demand for ocean liner shipping, and thus port volumes, vary but the 
impacts are similar.
    My approach to improving efficient seaport operations is to focus 
attention on the bottlenecks that occur in certain marine terminals and 
seaports during every cargo surge or peak season: particularly, 
container availability, container return, and export earliest return 
date. I do not support regulation of seaport or marine terminal 
processes, because I believe that marine terminals and seaports should 
compete on the best processes to serve the users of their services. The 
Commission assists marine terminals and seaports using the FMC Supply 
Chain Innovation Teams to produce effective improvements to reduce 
bottlenecks and improve smooth operation of the U.S. freight delivery 
system.
    Through those four major Fact Finding investigations, I have 
recommended, and the Commission has approved, various approaches to 
address supply chain disruptions, including incentivizing practices of 
ocean carriers, ports, and marine terminal operators to change behavior 
in the marketplace.
    Moreover, after an extensive Commission investigation of U.S. 
seaport and marine terminal practices on demurrage and detention 
charges, the Commission developed an interpretative rule to address 
unreasonable demurrage and detention charges. This rule is based on 
section 41102(c) of title 46, United States Code, that prohibits 
unreasonable practices of ocean carriers and marine terminals and 
seaports. The charge complaint provisions in the Ocean Shipping Reform 
Act 2022 provided a source of relief for U.S. importers and exporters 
from unreasonable demurrage and detention charges under the 
interpretative rule.
    The Commission is charged with ensuring competition in 
international liner shipping in U.S. markets and among U.S. seaports 
and marine terminals. To carry out the mission, we follow international 
ocean shipping market conditions, including supply of and demand for 
ocean carrier service. In this regard, significant fluctuations of U.S. 
import volumes are not complications for the Commission, but a routine 
part of the supply and demand assessment we continuously conduct to 
ensure a competitive international ocean shipping service for the 
United States. If, and when, unreasonable practices under the Shipping 
Act come to the attention of the Commission, we take all appropriate 
action.

    Question 1.b. What resources does the Commission need to ensure 
efficient operations at U.S. ports amid such volatility?
    Answer. As I testified before the U.S. House Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure, Subcommittee on Coast Guard and 
Maritime Transportation, I support the President's Budget for the 
Commission for Fiscal Year 2026, and I believe it is sufficient for the 
Commission to carry out our responsibilities in these and other areas. 
We appreciate the support of the Subcommittee and look forward to 
working with you to ensure the benefits of a competitive ocean shipping 
industry and an efficient container freight delivery system for the 
United States.

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