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                FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024: STAKE-
                  HOLDER PERSPECTIVES ON IMPLEMENTATION
                  ONE YEAR LATER

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                                (119-23)

                                HEARING

                               BEFORE THE

                            SUBCOMMITTEE ON
                                AVIATION

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                           TRANSPORTATION AND
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                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION
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             COMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND INFRASTRUCTURE

                     Sam Graves, Missouri, Chairman
                 Rick Larsen, Washington, Ranking Member
Eric A. ``Rick'' Crawford,           Eleanor Holmes Norton,                
  Arkansas, Vice Chairman              District of Columbia                 
Daniel Webster, Florida              Jerrold Nadler, New York               
Thomas Massie, Kentucky              Steve Cohen, Tennessee               
Scott Perry, Pennsylvania            John Garamendi, California           
Brian Babin, Texas                   Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr.,
David Rouzer, North Carolina           Georgia
Mike Bost, Illinois                  Andre Carson, Indiana                
Doug LaMalfa, California             Dina Titus, Nevada                   
Bruce Westerman, Arkansas            Jared Huffman, California            
Brian J. Mast, Florida               Julia Brownley, California           
Pete Stauber, Minnesota              Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         
Tim Burchett, Tennessee              Mark DeSaulnier, California          
Dusty Johnson, South Dakota          Salud O. Carbajal, California        
Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey       Greg Stanton, Arizona                
Troy E. Nehls, Texas                 Sharice Davids, Kansas               
Tracey Mann, Kansas                  Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   
Burgess Owens, Utah                  Chris Pappas, New Hampshire          
Eric Burlison, Missouri              Seth Moulton, Massachusetts          
Mike Collins, Georgia                Marilyn Strickland, Washington       
Mike Ezell, Mississippi              Patrick Ryan, New York               
Kevin Kiley, California              Val T. Hoyle, Oregon                 
Vince Fong, California               Emilia Strong Sykes, Ohio,           
Tony Wied, Wisconsin                   Vice Ranking Member                
Tom Barrett, Michigan                Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        
Nicholas J. Begich III, Alaska       Valerie P. Foushee, North Carolina   
Robert P. Bresnahan, Jr.,            Christopher R. Deluzio, Pennsylvania 
  Pennsylvania                       Robert Garcia, California            
Jeff Hurd, Colorado                  Nellie Pou, New Jersey                
Jefferson Shreve, Indiana            Kristen McDonald Rivet, Michigan     
Addison P. McDowell, North           Laura Friedman, California           
  Carolina                           Laura Gillen, New York               
David J. Taylor, Ohio                Shomari Figures, Alabama              
Brad Knott, North Carolina                                     
Kimberlyn King-Hinds, Northern                                     
  Mariana Islands                                   
Mike Kennedy, Utah                                     
Robert F. Onder, Jr., Missouri                                       
Jimmy Patronis, Florida                                     
                                     
                                     




































                        Subcommittee on Aviation

                     Troy E. Nehls, Texas, Chairman
                 Steve Cohen, Tennessee, Ranking Member
Thomas Massie, Kentucky              Sharice Davids, Kansas               
Scott Perry, Pennsylvania            Hillary J. Scholten, Michigan        
Brian J. Mast, Florida               Robert Garcia, California            
Pete Stauber, Minnesota              Henry C. ``Hank'' Johnson, Jr.,  
Tim Burchett, Tennessee                Georgia
Dusty Johnson, South Dakota          Andre Carson, Indiana
Jefferson Van Drew, New Jersey       Julia Brownley, California           
Tracey Mann, Kansas                  Frederica S. Wilson, Florida         
Burgess Owens, Utah                  Mark DeSaulnier, California          
Tony Wied, Wisconsin, Vice           Valerie P. Foushee, North Carolina   
  Chairman                           Christopher R. Deluzio, Pennsylvania  
Tom Barrett, Michigan                Nellie Pou, New Jersey,              
Nicholas J. Begich III, Alaska         Vice Ranking Member                
Robert P. Bresnahan, Jr.,            Laura Gillen, New York               
  Pennsylvania                       Eleanor Holmes Norton,                
Jeff Hurd, Colorado                    District of Columbia               
Jefferson Shreve, Indiana            Dina Titus, Nevada                   
Addison P. McDowell, North           Salud O. Carbajal, California        
  Carolina                           Greg Stanton, Arizona                 
Brad Knott, North Carolina           Jesus G. ``Chuy'' Garcia, Illinois   
Kimberlyn King-Hinds,                Rick Larsen, Washington (Ex Officio) 
  Northern Mariana Islands                                       
Robert F. Onder, Jr., Missouri                                       
Jimmy Patronis, Florida                                       
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                                CONTENTS

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Summary of Subject Matter........................................   vii

                 STATEMENTS OF MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE

Hon. Troy E. Nehls, a Representative in Congress from the State 
  of Texas, and Chairman, Subcommittee on Aviation, opening 
  statement......................................................     1
    Prepared statement...........................................     3
Hon. Steve Cohen, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Tennessee, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Aviation, 
  opening statement..............................................     3
    Prepared statement...........................................     5
Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the State of 
  Missouri, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and 
  Infrastructure, prepared statement.............................    97

                               WITNESSES

Darren Pleasance, President and Chief Executive Officer, Aircraft 
  Owners and Pilots Association, oral statement..................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................     8
Edward M. Bolen, President and Chief Executive Officer, National 
  Business Aviation Association, oral statement..................    13
    Prepared statement...........................................    15
Michael Robbins, President and Chief Executive Officer, 
  Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International, oral 
  statement......................................................    20
    Prepared statement...........................................    22
Captain Jody Reven, President, Southwest Airlines Pilots 
  Association, oral statement....................................    33
    Prepared statement...........................................    35
Sara Nelson, International President, Association of Flight 
  Attendants--CWA, AFL-CIO, oral statement.......................    37
    Prepared statement...........................................    39

                       SUBMISSIONS FOR THE RECORD

Letter of May 23, 2025, to Hon. Steve Womack, Chairman, and Hon. 
  James E. Clyburn, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
  Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related 
  Agencies, House Committee on Appropriations, from Eight 
  Congress Members from New York and New Jersey, Submitted for 
  the Record by Hon. Laura Gillen................................    70
Statement of Cade Clark, Chief Government Affairs Officer, 
  Vertical Aviation International, Submitted for the Record by 
  Hon. Troy E. Nehls.............................................    97

                                APPENDIX

Questions to Edward M. Bolen, President and Chief Executive 
  Officer, National Business Aviation Association, from Hon. 
  Julia Brownley.................................................   101

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    SUMMARY OF SUBJECT MATTER

    TO:      LMembers, Subcommittee on Aviation
    FROM:  LStaff, Subcommittee on Aviation
    RE:      LSubcommittee Hearing on ``FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024: Stakeholder Perspectives on Implementation One Year 
Later''
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                               I. PURPOSE

    The Subcommittee on Aviation of the Committee on 
Transportation and Infrastructure will meet on June 4, 2025, at 
10:00 a.m. ET in 2167 Rayburn House Office Building to receive 
testimony at a hearing entitled, ``FAA Reauthorization Act of 
2024: Stakeholder Perspectives on Implementation One Year 
Later.'' The hearing will provide representatives of the 
aerospace industry an opportunity to share their perspectives 
on the progress made by the Federal Aviation Administration 
(FAA or Agency) and the Department of Transportation (DOT) in 
implementing the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024. The 
Subcommittee will hear testimony from the Aircraft Owners and 
Pilots Association, National Business Aviation Association, 
Association of Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International, 
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association, and Association of 
Flight Attendants--CWA, AFL-CIO.

                             II. BACKGROUND

    On May 16, 2024, President Biden signed H.R. 3935, the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63) into law.\1\ FAARA 
2024 reauthorizes civil aviation programs within the FAA 
through fiscal year 2028. Enactment of FAARA 2024 followed a 
series of four short-term extensions of authorizations after 
the previous reauthorization law, the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2018 (FAARA 2018; P.L. 115-254), expired on October 1, 
2023.\2\ Support for final passage of H.R. 3935 was 
overwhelmingly bipartisan. The Senate passed an amendment to 
H.R. 3935 by a vote of 88 yeas to 4 nays and the House agreed 
to the amendment by a vote of 387 yeas to 26 nays.\3\
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    \1\ Press Release, The White House, Bill Signed: H.R. 3935, (May 
16, 2024), available at https://bidenwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefing-
room/statements-releases/2024/05/16/press-release-bill-signed-h-r-
3935/.
    \2\ Div. B, Title II of the Continuing Appropriations Act, 2024 and 
Other Extensions Act, Pub. L. No. 118-15, 137 Stat. 71; Airport and 
Airway Extension Act of 2023, Part II, Pub. L. No. 118-34; Airport and 
Airway Extension Act of 2024, Pub. L. No. 118-41; Airport and Airway 
Extension Act of 2024, Part II, Pub. L. No. 118-60.
    \3\ CONCUR IN THE S. AMDT TO H.R. 3935, CLERK, UNITED STATES HOUSE 
OF REPRESENTATIVES, Roll Call 200, 118th Cong., 2nd Session, (May 15, 
2024), available at https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024200.; H.R. 3935, 
As Amended, CLERK, UNITED STATES SENATE, Roll Call 162, 118th Cong., 
2nd Session, (May 9, 2024), available at https://www.senate.gov/
legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1182/vote_118_2_00162.htm.
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        III. KEY PILLARS OF THE FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024

    In developing FAARA 2024, the Committee on Transportation 
and Infrastructure received over 2,100 unique requests from 
Members of Congress and aviation industry stakeholders and held 
five hearings focused on reauthorizing civil aviation programs 
in the first four months of the 118th Congress. FAARA 2024 
contains approximately 500 requirements for the FAA, including 
mandates to take various actions, procure certain equipment, 
issue regulations, prepare reports to Congress, and conduct 
studies, among other responsibilities. As we move past the one-
year anniversary of FAARA 2024 being signed into law, the FAA 
continues to implement the provisions of FAARA 2024. This memo 
reflects the status of some of FAARA 2024's mandates and key 
programs within the law.

UPHOLDING AVIATION SAFETY

    The United States experienced one of the safest periods in 
commercial aviation on record from 2012 through 2024, during 
which three fatalities occurred on scheduled domestic air 
carriers, compared to 140 passenger fatalities in the previous 
decade.\4\ Tragically, our aviation ecosystem has experienced 
several accidents this year that underscore the importance of 
continued progress on aviation safety. On January 29, 2025, 
American Eagle flight 5342 collided with an Army UH-60 Black 
Hawk helicopter while on final approach to Ronald Reagan 
Washington National Airport (DCA). This collision resulted in 
the tragic loss of 67 lives after both aircraft crashed into 
the Potomac River.\5\
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    \4\ NTSB, U.S. Civil Aviation Statistics (2021), available at 
https://www.ntsb.gov/safety/Pages/research.aspx, (last visited Dec. 4, 
2024).
    \5\ NTSB, Aviation Investigation Preliminary Report (2025), 
available at https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Documents/
DCA25MA108%20Prelim.pdf.
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    Furthermore, the United States has also seen several near-
misses at airports in the last few years.\6\ For example, two 
aircraft almost collided on February 4, 2023, at Austin-
Bergstrom International Airport, when a FedEx aircraft was 
cleared to land on the same runway as a Southwest aircraft, 
carrying 128 passengers and crew members, which was cleared to 
take off.\7\ A National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) 
report noted the aircraft came within 150 to 170 feet of each 
other during this incident and attributed the near-miss to 
dense fog and a lack of surface detection equipment that could 
have alerted the air traffic controllers to a potential 
collision.\8\ Unfortunately, this is just one of many examples. 
More recently, there was a loss of separation when an Army 
Black Hawk and a Delta Airlines flight, on approach to DCA, 
came within less than one mile and 400 feet of one another.\9\ 
This concerning trend in safety incidents further emphasizes 
the need for continued improvements in aviation safety. FAARA 
2024 includes nearly 80 provisions aimed at enhancing and 
improving America's aviation safety.\10\
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    \6\ Sydney Ember and Emily Steel, Airline Close Calls Happen Far 
More Often Than Previously Known, The New York Times, (Aug. 21, 2023), 
available at https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/08/21/business/
airline-safety-close-calls.html.
    \7\ NTSB, Runway Incursion and Overflight, Southwest Airlines 
Flight 708, Boeing 737-700, N7827A, and Federal Express Flight 1432, 
Boeing 767-300, N297FE (2023), available at https://www.ntsb.gov/
investigations/Pages/DCA23FA149.aspx.
    \8\ Press Release, NTSB, Air Traffic Control Issues, Lack of Safety 
Technology Led to Near Collision on Foggy Texas Runway (June 6, 2024), 
available at https://www.ntsb.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/
NR20240606.aspx.
    \9\ Phil Helsel, Courtney Kube and Mosheh Gains, 2 planes were 
ordered to `go around' because of Army copter near Reagan Airport, NBC 
News, (May 3, 2025) available at https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/
2-planes-ordered-go-army-copter-reagan-airport-rcna204588.
    \10\ FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Pub. Law. No. 118-63. 
[hereinafter FAARA 2024].
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ZERO TOLERANCE FOR NEAR-MISSES AND INCURSIONS

    Section 347 of FAARA 2024 requires the FAA to establish the 
Runway Safety Council to develop strategies to address airport 
surface safety risks, among other tasks, to improve surface 
safety.\11\ Additionally, the FAA is tasked with identifying 
and deploying technologies, equipment, and systems, such as 
surface surveillance and detection systems, that improve 
onboard situational awareness for flight crewmembers and 
enhance the safety of ground operations at all medium hub, 
large hub, and other airports that lack surface surveillance 
capabilities.\12\ This section requires airport surface 
surveillance systems to be deployed and operational at all 
medium and large hub airports within five years.\13\
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    \11\ Id. at Sec.  347, 138 Stat. 1104.
    \12\ Id.
    \13\ Id.
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    While the requirements under this section are segmented 
over the course of five years, to date, the Agency has 
established a Runway Safety Council and consulted with relevant 
stakeholders to identify viable technologies that may provide 
enhanced surface surveillance capabilities as well as improve 
onboard situational awareness for crewmembers.\14\ In June 
2024, the FAA deployed the Surface Awareness Initiative (SAI), 
which provides timely and accurate depictions of both aircraft 
and vehicles that are transmitting Automatic Dependent 
Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) on the surface movement areas of 
an airport in all weather conditions.\15\ As of February 2025, 
SAI is currently operational at 18 airports; and the FAA plans 
to have 32 additional sites operational by December 31, 
2025.\16\ In March 2024, the FAA launched the Approach Runway 
Verification (ARV) system to provide controllers with visual 
and audible alerts if an approaching aircraft is lined up to 
land on the wrong airport surface. As of April 2025, ARV is 
operational at 102 facilities, and the FAA expects it will be 
operational at an additional 50 facilities by end of 2025.\17\ 
In March of 2025, the FAA deployed Runway Incursion Devices 
(RID), a memory aid controllers use to provide additional 
situational awareness of occupied and closed runways, at 74 
airports.\18\
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    \14\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization Hill Update (Apr. 10, 2025, 12:00pm EST) (Slides on 
file with Comm.) [hereinafter Hill Update].
    \15\ FAA, Surface Safety Portfolio (March 19, 2025), available at 
https://www.faa.gov/surface-safety-portfolio.
    \16\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, Airport 
Surface Detection and Surveillance Systems Timeline & Action Plan (May 
16, 2025) (slides on file with Comm.).
    \17\ Id.
    \18\ Supra note 15.
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    Additionally, as part of Congress' budget reconciliation 
effort, the House Committee on Transportation and 
Infrastructure approved the appropriation of $500 million for 
the FAA to carry out runway safety and airport surface 
surveillance projects identified in section 347.\19\
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    \19\ H. Comm. on Transp. & Infrastructure, Committee Print, 
providing for reconciliation pursuant to H. Con. Res. 14, the 
Concurrent Resolution on the Budget for Fiscal Year 2025 (as reported 
on Apr. 30, 2025) [hereinafter Committee Print].
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AVIATION SAFETY INFORMATION ANALYSIS AND SHARING PROGRAM

    To encourage the voluntary sharing of safety information, 
the FAA introduced the Aviation Safety Information Analysis and 
Sharing (ASIAS) system. ASIAS is a comprehensive database of 
safety data and analysis from government and industry sources. 
Section 348 requires the FAA to implement improvements to the 
ASIAS program with respect to safety data sharing and risk 
mitigation.\20\ Specifically, the new law requires the FAA to: 
develop predictive capabilities to anticipate emerging safety 
risks, establish a robust process for prioritizing request for 
safety information, identify industry segments not yet included 
in the program to increase the rate of participation, establish 
processes for obtaining and analyzing aggregate data, and 
integrate safety data obtained from unmanned aircraft systems 
(UAS) operators.\21\
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    \20\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  348, 138 Stat. 1107.
    \21\ Id.
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    The Agency conducted an initial briefing on its efforts 
with Committee staff, in line with the statutory requirements, 
on November 12, 2024, where it outlined ASIAS metrics, safety 
improvements, and how they are using aggregate data for safety 
analysis.\22\ Additionally, the FAA asserted that it will 
implement a new advanced technology tool to more rapidly 
process safety data and produce relevant safety intelligence. 
The FAA projects to fully implement section 348 by the 2027 
statutory requirement.\23\
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    \22\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024, Sec.  348: Improvements to Aviation Safety 
Information Analysis and Sharing Program (Dec. 19, 2024 at 2:45pm EST) 
(Slides on file with Comm.).
    \23\ Hill Update supra note 14.
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DON YOUNG ALASKA AVIATION SAFETY INITIATIVE

    Aviation is essential in Alaska, as 82 percent of the 
state's communities are inaccessible by road.\24\ However, 
aviation operators in Alaska face unique challenges compared to 
operators in the contiguous states due in large part to the 
state's challenging geography and topography, unpredictable 
weather, and relative lack of aviation and air traffic control 
infrastructure. Recognizing the aviation safety challenges in 
Alaska, section 342 establishes the Don Young Alaska Aviation 
Safety Initiative (DYAASI).\25\ The objective of the DYAASI is 
to reduce the number of fatal accidents in Alaska and the 
territories by 90 percent from 2019 to 2033 and eliminate fatal 
accidents for Part 135 operations by 2033. DYASSI requires the 
FAA to install reliable automated weather systems at certain 
airports, install and continually assess the state of weather 
cameras, and implement certain NTSB recommendations.\26\ The 
FAA submitted their annual report to the Committee on May 16, 
2025, and continues to work on completing the additional 
mandates in this provision which are segmented out over the 
course of three years.\27\
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    \24\ Alaska Dept. of Transp. and Pub. Facilities, Statewide 
Aviation, available at https://dot.alaska.gov/stwdav/.
    \25\ 49 U.S.C. Sec.  44745.
    \26\ Id.
    \27\ See e.g. Email from FAA to H. Comm. on Transp. and 
Infrastructure Staff (May 16, 2025, 8:57 p.m. ET)
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DETERRING CREWMEMBER INTERFERENCE

    Due to troubling incidents involving unruly passengers in 
recent years, FAARA 2024 helps ensure flight crews and 
passengers are protected.\28\ Section 432 directs the FAA to 
convene a task force to develop standards and best practices 
relating to suspected interference with cabin or flight crew, 
security screening personnel, or flight attendants.\29\ This 
section also requires the FAA to modify the required pre-flight 
briefings to inform passengers that it is against Federal law 
to assault or threaten to assault any individual onboard an 
aircraft or to interfere with duties of a crewmember.\30\ 
Furthermore, section 435 requires airlines to establish formal 
policies protecting airline personnel and passengers from 
sexual assault and harassment.\31\ The FAA continues partnering 
with the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and has 
leveraged the existing Inflight Security Work Group to jointly 
develop best practices to comply with this section.\32\
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    \28\ Mark Walker, F.A.A. Refers More Unruly Passenger Cases to 
Justice Department, N.Y. Times, (Aug. 21, 2024), available at https://
www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/politics/faa-unruly-passengers-fbi.html.
    \29\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  432, 138 Stat. 1173.
    \30\ Id.
    \31\ Id. at Sec.  435, 138 Stat. 1175.
    \32\ 2024 FAA Reauthorization, Implementation Update, FAA, Power 
Point Presentation to H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure staff 
(Oct. 8, 2024) (on file with Comm.).
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GROWING THE AVIATION WORKFORCE

    FAARA 2024 incorporates several provisions to address the 
hiring and training bottlenecks most commonly affecting pilots, 
aircraft mechanics, air traffic controllers, aviation safety 
inspectors, and other key aviation roles. These aviation 
professions are closely regulated, require significant training 
and experience to achieve FAA certification and are essential 
to the safe operation of the National Airspace System (NAS). 
The provisions included in FAARA 2024 related to improving FAA 
services and regulatory processes are likely to be highlighted 
during the hearing as the aviation industry's growth is highly 
dependent on adequate staffing, robust investment in FAA 
resources, and timely decision-making. Provisions of interest 
to aviation stakeholders range from directing the FAA to 
promulgate rulemakings in a timely manner, leveraging various 
Federal training initiatives, and issuing airmen and operator 
certificates, among other responsibilities and authorities 
carried out by the Agency.

AIR TRAFFIC CONTROLLER STAFFING

    For several years, the FAA and the aviation industry 
reported a need for a right-sized and qualified FAA workforce 
commensurate with the Agency's responsibilities. The pandemic 
exacerbated the challenges felt by the Agency's Air Traffic 
Organization (ATO), which faces significant challenges in 
hiring and training controllers at a rate necessary to meet 
increased travel demand.\33\ In the latest Aerospace forecast 
for the 2024-2044 period, the FAA notes that ``with robust air 
travel demand growth in 2024 and steady growth thereafter, [the 
FAA] expect[s] increased activity growth that has the potential 
to increase controller workload.'' \34\
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    \33\ Turbulence Ahead: Consequences of Delaying a Long-Term FAA 
Bill: Hearing Before the Subcomm. on Aviation of the H. Comm. on 
Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong., (Nov. 30, 2023) (statement of 
Rich Santa, President, National Air Traffic Controllers Association).
    \34\ Fed. Aviation Admin., Forecast Highlights (2024-2044) at 4, 
available at https://www.faa.gov/dataresearch/aviation/
aerospaceforecasts/2024-forecast-highlights.pdf.
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    To address the controller workforce bottleneck in the 
aviation system, section 437 directs the FAA to set the minimum 
hiring target for new air traffic controllers, for each of 
fiscal years 2024 through 2028, to the maximum number of 
individuals trained at the FAA Air Traffic Control Academy.\35\ 
Additionally, this section directs the Transportation Research 
Board (TRB) to identify the most appropriate staffing model for 
future air traffic controller workforce needs and requires the 
FAA to revise its staffing standards to adopt this staffing 
model, and allows the FAA to implement any other necessary TRB 
recommendations. As the TRB study is conducted, the section 
requires the FAA to adopt the staffing methodologies developed 
by the Collaborative Resource Workgroup (CRWG), a joint FAA and 
National Air Traffic Controllers Association (NATCA) entity. To 
date, the FAA has entered into an agreement with the TRB to 
conduct the study and expects the TRB to submit the required 
report to the FAA and Congress in the summer of 2025.\36\ The 
FAA is continuing to work to meet the mandates set forth in 
FAARA 2024.\37\
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    \35\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  437, 138 Stat. 1176.
    \36\ Hill Update supra note 14.
    \37\ Id.
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    Relatedly, Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy has 
announced several reforms aimed at ``supercharging'' the hiring 
of air traffic controllers. Among the Department's efforts, the 
FAA will increase the starting salaries for candidates who 
attend the FAA's ATC Academy by 30 percent. Additionally, the 
Administration modified the hiring process for controllers, 
with the goal of expediting the hiring timeline by 
approximately four months.\38\ Furthermore, on May 1, 2025, 
Secretary Duffy announced the FAA will begin offering incentive 
packages to (1) keep experienced controllers from retiring, (2) 
provide new opportunities for veteran military controllers 
looking to transition into the civil side of air traffic 
control, and (3) expand the number of instructors at the FAA's 
Air Traffic Control Academy in Oklahoma.\39\ These reforms have 
garnered bipartisan support and work to fulfil the 
Congressional intent of section 437 of FAARA 2024.\40\ The FAA 
projects to hire at least 2,000 controllers this year and has 
referred more than 8,320 candidates to take the Air Traffic 
Skills Assessment (ATSA).\41\
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    \38\ Press Release, Dep't of Transp., U.S. Transportation Secretary 
Sean P. Duffy Announces Air Traffic Control Hiring Supercharge at FAA 
Academy (Feb. 27, 2025), available at https://www.transportation.gov/
briefing-room/us-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-announces-air-
traffic-controller-hiring.
    \39\ Id.
    \40\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  411, 138 Stat. 1176.
    \41\ Press Release, FAA, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. 
Duffy Unveils New Package to Boost Air Traffic Controller Workforce 
(May 1, 2025), available at https://www.faa.gov/newsroom/us-
transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-unveils-new-package-boost-air-
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AIRMAN MEDICAL CERTIFICATE MODERNIZATION

    Pilots must obtain and maintain an FAA medical certificate 
to operate aircraft, and for commercial pilots, it is a 
requirement for employment.\42\ Section 411 establishes a 
working group to review the FAA's medical processes, policies, 
procedures, and make recommendations to the Administrator to 
ensure the timely and efficient certification of airmen. Among 
its tasks, this working group will assess the FAA's special 
issuance process, determine the appropriateness of the list of 
medical conditions under which an Air Medical Examiner (AME) 
can issue a medical certificate, and review mental health 
protocols and approved medications, including any actions taken 
resulting from recommendations by the Mental Health and 
Aviation Medical Clearances Aviation Rulemaking Committee.\43\ 
It is expected that the FAA will respond to the working group's 
findings by taking necessary action to streamline the medical 
certification process and breakdown barriers for 
applicants.\44\ The FAA established the working group, as 
required by section 411, in November 2024. Within the working 
group, the FAA also established an Aviation Workforce Mental 
Health Task Group who held their last meeting on April 18, 
2025, and are currently working on developing more detailed 
project plans.\45\ The FAA expects to meet the deadlines for 
all requirements of this section.
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    \42\ FAA, Mental Health & Aviation Medical Clearances ARC 
Recommendation Report (Apr. 1, 2024), available at https://www.faa.gov/
sites/faa.gov/files/Mental_Health_ARC_Final_
Report_RELEASED.pdf.
    \43\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  437, 138 Stat. 1156.
    \44\ Hill Update supra note 14.
    \45\ Id.
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FEDERAL AVIATION WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS

    FAARA 2018 established the Aviation Workforce Development 
(AWD) Grants program to fund outreach and educational efforts 
focused on growing the United States aircraft pilot and 
aviation maintenance workforce. This program enjoys broad 
support from aviation stakeholders, as it encourages 
collaboration between government, industry, and local entities 
to address skills gaps, while encouraging more Americans to 
pursue good-paying careers in aviation.\46\ Section 440 of 
FAARA 2024 builds on the successes of the AWD Grants program by 
establishing a new eligibility for aviation manufacturing to 
ensure the manufacturing sector has a robust talent pool to 
recruit from in the coming decades.\47\ FAARA 2024 authorizes 
funding levels for the aviation maintenance, aircraft pilot, 
and aviation manufacturing development programs at $20 million 
respectively for each of fiscal years 2025 through 2028.\48\ 
This section also invests $12 million annually in the new Willa 
Brown Aviation Education Program to expand outreach and 
aviation education opportunities in low-income and 
underrepresented communities.\49\ In January 2025, the FAA 
released the Notice of Funding Opportunity (NOFO) for the 
aviation maintenance and aircraft pilot grant programs; \50\ 
however, the aviation manufacturing grant program has not yet 
been established.\51\
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    \46\ Pub. L. No. 115-254 Sec.  625, 132 Stat. 3405.
    \47\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  440, 138 Stat. 1179.
    \48\ Id.
    \49\ Id.
    \50\ FAA, Aviation Workforce Development Grants, (March 3, 2025), 
available at: https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/
headquarters_offices/ang/grants/awd.
    \51\ Update from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, FAA Quarterly 
Briefing on 2024 FAA Reauthorization Implementation (December 1, 2024 
11:22am EST) (Email on file with Comm.).
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IMPROVING SAFETY-CRITICAL STAFFING AT FAA

    The FAA's Flight Standards Service (FSS) and Aircraft 
Certification Service (AIR) aviation safety inspectors are 
responsible for the certification, education, oversight, and 
enforcement of the NAS.\52\ Given increased compliance 
requirements on manufacturers and operators, ongoing supply 
chain quality issues, enhanced scrutiny of safety culture 
across the aviation ecosystem, and the emergence of more 
advanced aerospace technologies in United States airspace, it 
is critical that this safety workforce be fully staffed to meet 
current and future industry demand. Sections 429, 430, and 431 
of FAARA 2024 collectively require a wholistic review of FAA's 
safety critical workforce, including staffing for safety 
inspectors, to ensure the agency can efficiently and 
effectively fulfill its aviation safety mission.\53\ 
Furthermore, section 428 directs the FAA to utilize its 
existing direct hire authorities to hire more individuals for 
positions related to aircraft certification and aviation 
safety, including in positions that support the safe 
integration of new airspace entrants.\54\ To date, FAA has not 
provided an update on implementation on these provisions.
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    \52\ Strengthening the Aviation Workforce: Hearing Before the S. 
Comm. on Commerce, Space and Transportation, 118th Cong. (Mar. 16, 
2023) (statement of David Spero, National President, Professional 
Aviation Safety Specialists).
    \53\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  429, Sec.  430, Sec.  431, 
138 Stat. 1171, 1172, 1173.
    \54\ Id. at Sec.  428, 138 Stat. 1170.
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IMPROVING THE PASSENGER EXPERIENCE

    The COVID-19 pandemic caused major difficulties for the 
airline industry, with airline revenue passenger miles falling 
by 96 percent from January 2020 to April 2020.\55\ As COVID-19 
restrictions began to lift, air carriers experienced a greater 
than anticipated increase in air travel demand. This led to 
capacity and staffing constraints, which can pose significant 
operational challenges.\56\ Additionally, staffing shortages at 
air traffic control facilities, severe weather, and post-
pandemic driven changes in air traffic further contributed to 
delays and cancellations across the country.\57\ As the airline 
industry continues to navigate air travel post COVID-19 
pandemic, the Committee understands the importance of 
continuing to improve the comprehensive travel experience for 
all passengers to ensure that travelers arrive at their 
destination safely and efficiently. FAARA 2024 includes over 30 
provisions to enhance the passenger experience and make flying 
more accessible for individuals with disabilities.\58\
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    \55\ Air Passenger Revenue Miles, Federal Reserve Bank of St. 
Louis, available at https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/AIRRPMTSID11.
    \56\ Michael B. Baker, Airlines Prepare for Operational Challenges 
as Demand Rebounds, Business Travel News, (Aug. 4, 2021), available at 
https://www.businesstravelnews.com/Transportation/Air/Airlines-Prepare-
for-Operational-Challenges-as-Demand-Rebounds.
    \57\ Taylor Rains, Flight cancellations are spiking in part because 
this air traffic control center in Florida is severely understaffed, 
airline group says, Business Insider, (June 24, 2022), available at 
https://www.businessinsider.com/air-traffic-control-staffing-shortage-
causing-flight-cancellations-alpa-2022-6. [hereinafter Business 
Insider].
    \58\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  517, 138 Stat. 1198, 1199.
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PASSENGER EXPERIENCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE

    For commercial airline passengers, the air transportation 
journey often begins at the curb or parking lot of the 
departure airport and ends at the same point at the destination 
airport. During that timeframe, a passenger's unique experience 
is affected by factors including, but not limited to, airlines, 
airports, airport contractors and vendors, and air traffic 
management system and operations. Section 517 creates a 
Passenger Experience Advisory Committee tasked with evaluating 
and providing recommendations to improve the comprehensive 
passenger experience.\59\ The DOT has not provided an update on 
the establishment of the advisory committee.
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ACCESSIBILITY

    The United States Census Bureau estimates that 44.1 million 
Americans, over 13 percent of individuals, have a disability, 
which may include those related to physical mobility, hearing, 
vision, or cognition.\60\ FAARA 2024 includes several 
requirements for the DOT to improve travel and access for 
people with disabilities. For instance, sections 542 and 543 
direct the DOT to issue rulemaking to develop minimum training 
standards for airline personnel and contractors who assist 
passengers with disabilities using wheelchairs when boarding or 
deplaning, as well as standards regarding the stowage of 
scooters and wheelchairs used by passengers with disabilities 
onboard commercial aircraft.\61\ In December 2024, DOT issued a 
final rule in compliance with the reauthorization law.\62\
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    \60\ United States Census Bureau, Anniversary of Americans With 
Disabilities Act: July 26, 2024, (July 26, 2024), available at https://
www.census.gov/newsroom/facts-for-features/2024/disabilities-act.html.
    \61\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  542, 138 Stat. 1201 and 
Sec.  543, 138 Stat. 1202.
    \62\ Ensuring Safe Accommodations for Air Travelers With 
Disabilities Using Wheelchairs, 89 Fed. Reg. 102938 (Dec. 17, 2024) (to 
be codified at 14 C.F.R. pt. 382).
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AIRSPACE MODERNIZATION

    The FAA's Air Traffic Organization (ATO) is responsible for 
operating the ATC system, which includes maintaining the 
technical and physical infrastructure necessary to operate the 
NAS, and employing and training highly skilled workers to 
ensure the proper and safe functioning of the NAS.\63\ 
Approximately 14,000 air traffic controllers, 4,100 air traffic 
supervisors and air traffic managers, 2,200 engineers, and 
5,800 maintenance technicians make up ATO's workforce.\64\ 
FAARA 2024 contains several provisions to improve the ATC 
system, including modernizing aging ATC systems and 
technologies, and expediting the deployment of airspace 
modernization technologies and procedures.
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    \63\ FAA, Budget Estimates Fiscal Year 2025 88 (2024), available at 
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/2024-03/
FAA_FY_2025_Budget_Request_508-v5.pdf.
    \64\ FAA, Air Traffic by the Numbers (Sept. 9, 2024), available at 
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NEXTGEN PROGRAMS

    To meet an anticipated growth in air traffic, in 2007, the 
FAA launched a series of initiatives to revamp the Nation's ATC 
system known as ``NextGen.'' \65\ Specifically, NextGen 
initiatives aim to reduce the required separation between 
aircraft, resulting in more efficient routes and decreased 
congestion. These initiatives should provide a better 
experience for the traveling public.\66\ However, NextGen 
programs have been vulnerable to delays and cost-overruns.\67\ 
According to a September 2024 GAO report, NextGen activities' 
initial completion dates of 2025 have been delayed to 2030.\68\ 
Although anticipated costs for NextGen programs have fallen 
back in line with original estimates, challenges remain for 
FAA's continued implementation, including uncertainty of future 
funding, unanticipated system requirements, and aircraft 
owners' equipage to fully utilize NextGen improvements, FAA's 
leadership stability, and cybersecurity issues.\69\
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    \65\ FAA, Next Generation Air Transportation System (NextGen) (last 
updated Jan. 14, 2025), available at https://www.faa.gov/nextgen.
    \66\ Id.
    \67\ U.S. Gov't Accountability Off., GAO-17-241R, Next Generation 
Air Transportation System: Information on Expenditures, Schedule and 
Cost Estimates, Fiscal Years 2004-2030 (2016).
    \68\ U.S. Gov't Accountability Off., GAO-24-107001, Air Traffic 
Control: FAA Actions Are Urgently Needed To Modernize Aging Systems 
(Sept. 2024).
    \69\ U.S. Gov't Accountability Off., GAO-17-450, Air Traffic 
Control Modernization: Progress and Challenges in Implementing NextGen 
(2017).
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    In recognition of the ongoing challenges and delays of the 
NextGen program, section 206 instructs the FAA to 
operationalize the programs under NextGen by the end of 2025 
and then sunset the Office of NextGen.\70\ If the FAA does not 
operationalize such key NextGen programs by the deadline 
stated, section 206 transfers the duties, activities, and 
personnel of the office to the new Airspace Modernization 
Office created in section 207 of FAARA 2024, the ATO, the 
Office of Aviation Safety, and other appropriate offices of the 
Administration.\71\ The FAA expects to meet the statutory 
deadline under this section.\72\
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    \70\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  206, 138 Stat. 1044.
    \71\ Id.
    \72\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, 2024 FAA 
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    Furthermore, section 619 of FAARA 2024 requires the FAA to 
expedite the implementation of the following programs and 
capabilities previously under the NextGen brand: Performance 
Based Navigation (PBN), Data Communications, Terminal Flight 
Data Manager (TFDM) and Aeronautical Information 
Management.\73\ This requirement includes deadlines for each 
program and the FAA must notify Congress regarding any failure 
to meet them.\74\ Furthermore, the FAA is directed to task the 
NextGen Advisory Committee with providing recommendations on 
ways to expedite, prioritize, and fully implement NextGen 
programs to realize the operational benefits.\75\ To date, FAA 
has not provided an update on implementation of these 
provisions.
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    \73\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  619, 138 Stat. 1231.
    \74\ Id.
    \75\ Id.
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AGING ATC INFRASTRUCTURE

    Much of the FAA's air traffic infrastructure is several 
decades old, which decreases efficiency and jeopardizes the 
reliability of critical navigation and surveillance services 
provided to aircraft operating in the NAS. The challenges with 
the FAA's efforts to swiftly modernize ATC programs remain a 
serious concern for the Committee and pose a critical risk to 
the safety of the NAS if left unaddressed. FAARA 2024 set the 
foundation to expedite the modernization of the FAA's legacy 
ATC system by requiring the agency to develop a plan to 
accelerate the replacement of any legacy system identified as 
outdated, insufficient, unsafe, or unstable.\76\ It also 
directs the FAA to develop a list of unfunded facility and 
equipment needs that were not included in the President's 
budget.\77\
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    \76\ Id. at Sec.  622, 138 Stat. 1237.
    \77\ Id. at Sec.  213.
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AIRPORT INFRASTRUCTURE

    Each year, hundreds of millions of passengers pass through 
our Nation's airports. Regardless of size, airports connect our 
communities and drive economic development across major cities 
and rural towns alike. The FAA estimates there are 
approximately 14,400 private and 5,000 public-use airports, 
heliports, and seaplane bases in the United States.\78\ FAARA 
2024 contains a robust airport title that prioritizes funding 
for airport infrastructure, including increasing investments 
for small and general aviation airports, streamlined processes 
to expedite project deliveries, and provided new funding and 
programs to strengthen airport safety.\79\
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    \78\ FAA, Airport Categories (last updated Dec. 7, 2022), available 
at https://www.faa.gov/airports/planning_capacity/categories.
    \79\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10, 138 Stat. 1245.
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AIRPORT IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM (AIP) MODIFICATIONS AND FUNDING

    FAARA 2024 made a significant number of revisions to the 
AIP's apportionment formulas, discretionary categories, and 
project eligibilities. For example, the law increases the AIP 
minimum primary apportionment from $1 million to $1.3 million 
and increased the non-primary airport apportionment from 20 
percent of total funding to 25 percent. Additionally, the law 
reduces the amount of AIP funding that medium and large hub 
airports were required to turn back in exchange for imposing a 
passenger facility charge from 75 percent to 60 percent.\80\ To 
account for the legislative changes to the AIP, the FAA has 
traditionally issued program guidance letters that provide 
airports with direction on how the bill will be implemented. 
Section 733 of FAARA 2024 requires the FAA to issue program 
guidance letters accounting for all changes made to the AIP 
within one year of the date of enactment of the Act.\81\ While 
the FAA has issued eight letters so far, they do not 
comprehensively explain the implementation of all AIP-related 
provisions in FAARA 2024.\82\
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    \80\ Id.
    \81\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  733, 138 Stat. 1273.
    \82\ FAA, Program Guidance Letters (PGLs) and Program Information 
Memorandums (PIMs) for the Airport Improvement Program (AIP), (last 
updated Friday, May 23, 2025), available at https://www.faa.gov/
airports/aip/guidance_letters#r-pgls.
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ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS AND STREAMLINING

    FAARA 2024 contains provisions intended to streamline 
environmental review of airport projects, expand low-emission 
airport technologies and mitigate the effects of aircraft noise 
on communities near airports. Section 782 streamlines and 
expands the Voluntary Airport Low Emission (VALE) program to 
airports in non-attainment areas.\83\ Section 783 significantly 
revised existing streamlining environmental procedures for 
certain important categories of airport projects, while section 
788 establishes a new categorical exclusion for airport 
projects receiving less than $6 million in Federal funding.\84\ 
While the FAA has promulgated field guidance for these 
provisions, it has not indicated a timeline for revision FAA 
Order 1050.1F, which governs the FAA's procedures for 
implementing the National Environmental Policy Act.\85\
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    \83\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  782, 138 Stat. 1302.
    \84\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  783, 138 Stat. 1302; FAARA 
2024, supra note 9 at Sec.  788, 138 Stat. 1314.
    \85\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, Discussion on 
Airport Provisions (Apr. 24, 2025, 3:00pm EST) (Slides on file with 
Comm.).
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    Sections 786 and 792 of FAARA 2024 direct the Administrator 
to update the FAA's noise standards and establish an Aircraft 
Noise Advisory Committee to advise the FAA on the effects of 
aircraft noise exposure and FAA noise policies, 
respectively.\86\ The FAA has not completed the process of 
updating its noise standards. A charter for the advisory 
committee was issued on January 14, 2025.\87\ To date, no 
members of the advisory committee have been appointed, and no 
initial meeting has been scheduled.
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    \86\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  786 and 792, 138 Stat. 
1316.
    \87\ FAA, Charter of the Aircraft Noise Advisory Committee (2025), 
available at https://www.faa.gov/regulationspolicies/rulemaking/
committees/aircraft-noise-advisory-committee/charter.pdf.
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REVITALIZING GENERAL AVIATION

    General aviation (GA) is commonly referred to as the 
backbone of the aviation system as it underpins the aviation 
industry and is an important part of our National economy. 
According to a 2025 study, GA supported more than 1.3 million 
jobs and generated $339 billion in total output, a sizeable 
increase from the previous iteration of the study conducted in 
2018. As new entrants, such as powered-lift aircraft, begin to 
integrate in the NAS, GA's global economic output is projected 
to continue to grow.\88\ Given GA's importance to the aviation 
ecosystem, FAARA 2024 includes the first-ever GA title focused 
on revitalizing the GA community and improving the services FAA 
provides to general aviators.
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    \88\ Press Release, National Business Aviation Association, General 
Aviation Provides Robust Contribution to US Economy (Feb. 19, 2025), 
available at https://nbaa.org/2025-press-releases/general-aviation-
provides-robust-contribution-to-u-s-economy/.
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EXPANDING BASICMED

    In 2016, Congress established BasicMed, a medical 
qualification that allows private pilots to be approved by a 
state-licensed physician to exercise flying privileges in lieu 
of receiving a third-class medical certificate.\89\ Section 828 
expands the application of BasicMed by amending the rules that 
govern pilots operating under a BasicMed credential. 
Specifically, it expands the pool of eligible aircraft by 
increasing the number of allowable passengers from five to six, 
increasing the number of occupants from six to seven, and 
increasing the maximum takeoff weight from 6,000 pounds to 
12,500 pounds, while excluding certain transport category 
rotorcraft.\90\ Additionally, section 815 allows Designated 
Pilot Examiners (DPEs) administering proficiency checks or 
tests to airman to be able to do so under BasicMed so long as 
the aircraft the flight test is being conducted in is eligible 
for purposes of a BasicMed operation.\91\ The FAA issued a 
final rule updating parts 61 and 68, of Title 14, Code of 
Federal Regulations, on November 15, 2024, updating BasicMed 
regulations to reflect the changes made by sections 828 and 
815.\92\ Additionally, the Agency remains on track to brief 
Congress on changes to small aircraft activity and safety 
incidents by the 2028 due date.\93\
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    \89\ FAA Extension, Safety, and Security Act of 2016, Pub. L. No. 
114-190, 130 Stat. 641.
    \90\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  828, 138 Stat. 1336.
    \91\ Id. at Sec.  815, 138 Stat. 1328.
    \92\ Regulatory Updates to Basic Med; Correction, 89 Fed. Reg. 
105446 (Dec. 27, 2024) (to be codified at 14 C.F.R. pt. 61).
    \93\ Hill Update supra note 14.
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FLIGHT EXAMINATIONS

    Several GA operators and flight schools assert there is a 
Nationwide shortage of DPEs necessary to meet the needs of 
student pilots and pilots seeking additional certifications and 
ratings.\94\ Section 833 requires the FAA to establish an 
office to provide oversight and facilitate national 
coordination of DPEs. It is expected that the FAA is in the 
process of setting up an office to focus on DPE oversight as 
well as working towards fulfilling the reporting requirement 
found in FAARA 2024.
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    \94\ Janice Wood, How much did you pay for your check ride?, 
General Aviation News, (Oct. 31, 2022), available at https://
generalaviationnews.com/2022/10/31/how-much-did-you-pay-for-your-check-
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PART 135 AIR CARRIER CERTIFICATE BACKLOG

    Following the COVID-19 pandemic, the FAA faced a 
significant backlog of several services, including 
certification of new applicants.\95\ The backlog resulted in 
the potential for applicants having to wait two or even three 
years for FAA to initiate a certification process.\96\ Section 
818 requires the FAA to reduce the backlog of air carrier 
certificate applications under Part 135 of Title 14, Code of 
Federal Regulations.\97\ Specifically, the FAA must set a goal 
to maintain an average certificate processing time of less than 
60 days within one year of enactment and a goal to maintain an 
average of less than 30 days processing time within two years 
of enactment.\98\ As of April 15, 2025, the average acceptance 
and rejection timeframe for all part 135 applications is 31 
days.\99\
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    \95\ Kerry Lynch, FAA Cutting Lengthy Backlogs for Registration, 
Certification, Aviation Int'l News, (June 22, 2023), available at 
https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2023-06-22/
faa-cutting-lengthy-backlogs-registration-certification.
    \96\ Id.
    \97\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  818, 138 Stat. 1328.
    \98\ Id.
    \99\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63); Section 818(c) Part 135 Air 
Carrier Certificate Backlog (May 2, 2025, 12:00pm EST) (Slides on file 
with Comm.).
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HARNESSING ADVANCED AVIATION

    The FAA has the responsibility to certify, oversee, and 
regulate the safety and operations of the civil aviation 
sector, including integrating new entrants like Unmanned 
Aircraft Systems (UAS) and Advanced Air Mobility (AAM) aircraft 
into the NAS.\100\ Title IX of FAARA 2024 incorporates 
provisions to foster the safe, efficient, and timely 
integration of new entrant technologies into the NAS. UAS, also 
known as drones, and electric vertical takeoff and landing 
(eVTOL) powered-lift aircraft, commonly referred to as AAM 
vehicles or air taxis, have the potential to change the way we 
travel and transport goods. FAARA 2024 ensures that the FAA is 
properly positioned to support the safe integration of these 
new entrant technologies into the NAS while supporting American 
innovation.
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    \100\ 49 U.S.C. Sec.  106(f)(3).
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BEYOND VISUAL LINE OF SIGHT DRONE OPERATIONS

    UAS operating beyond a remote pilot's visual line of sight 
(commonly referred to as BVLOS) presents unique challenges to 
the FAA's existing regulatory framework.\101\ While the FAA has 
made some progress in approving BVLOS operations over the past 
several years, the Agency has faced challenges in promulgating 
regulations to allow greater BVLOS operations. Section 930 of 
FAARA 2024 directs the FAA to issue a notice of proposed 
rulemaking (NPRM) establishing a performance-based regulatory 
pathway for UAS to operate BVLOS by September 16, 2024, 
however, the Agency has yet to comply with the law. This 
critical rule, issued in a timely manner, will provide 
regulatory stability and certainty for the UAS industry.\102\ 
During the Biden Administration, a proposed rule made it 
through the regulatory review process and to the Office of 
Management and Budget (OMB) for final approval, however, it was 
not cleared before the change in Administration. In February of 
2025, the proposed BVLOS rule was resubmitted for Executive-
level review under the Trump Administration, and the Agency 
expects the proposed rule to be published Summer 2025; still 
long after the required timeline under FAARA 2024.\103\ On May 
14, 2025, Secretary Duffy announced that the proposed BVLOS 
rule was submitted to the Office of Information and Regulatory 
Affairs (OIRA) for final approval. Following final approval, 
the proposed rule will be published in the Federal Register and 
open to public comments.\104\ The FAA is planning for the 
issuance the final BVLOS rule in March of 2027.\105\
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    \101\ FAA Aviation Rulemaking Comm., Unmanned Aircraft Systems 
Beyond Visual Line of Sight, Final Report at 8, (Mar. 10, 2022), 
available at https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/rulemaking/
committees/documents/media/UAS_BVLOS_ARC_FINAL_
REPORT_03102022.pdf.
    \102\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  930, 138 Stat. 1366.
    \103\ Briefing from FAA, DHS, & DOJ to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, 
House of Representatives Spring 2025 Semi-annual 6 U.S.C. 124n C-UAS 
briefing (Apr. 3, 2025, 10:00am EST) (Notes on file with Comm.). 
[hereinafter 124n C-UAS Briefing].
    \104\ Press Release, Dep't of Transp., Trump's Transportation 
Secretary Sean P. Duffy Announces Progress on Key Drone Rules as Part 
of His Innovation Agenda (May 14, 2025), available at https://
www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transportation-secretary-
sean-p-duffy-announces-progress-key-drone-rules-part.
    \105\ 124n C-UAS Briefing, supra note 94.
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ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND NOISE CERTIFICATION

    As UAS regulations continue to mature, the commercial use-
case for these technologies will exponentially grow. Section 
909 of FAARA 2024 directs the FAA to publish UAS specific 
environmental review guidance and implementation procedures. 
Additionally, the FAA is directed to engage with the Council on 
Environmental Quality (CEQ) to identify actions eligible for a 
new categorical exclusion to more easily allow for safe 
commercial operations of UAS.\106\ The FAA briefed the 
Committee on August 13, 2024, in line with the 90-day statutory 
requirement, and anticipates meeting all the deadlines of this 
section.\107\
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    \106\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  909, 138 Stat. 1344.
    \107\ Briefing from FAA to Subcomm. on Aviation Staff, FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63): Section 909 Environmental 
Review and Noise Certification Briefing (Aug. 13, 2024, 2:00pm EST) 
(Slides on file with Comm.).
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POWERED-LIFT OPERATIONS FOR AAM AIRCRAFT

    Currently, several AAM aircraft manufacturers are in the 
process of certifying the design of their aircraft with FAA and 
plan to enter service upon this certification. AAM aircraft 
operators expected to use existing operating procedures for 
traditional aircraft, the FAA has faced challenges in 
leveraging existing aviation rules for a new class of aircraft. 
To meet entry into service target dates for AAM manufacturers 
and operators, and to establish a clear regulatory safety 
framework for powered-lift aircraft, in 2023, the FAA declared 
that it would publish a final Special Federal Aviation 
Regulation (SFAR) for AAM aircraft by ``the fourth quarter of 
2024.'' \108\ Section 955 of the FAARA 2024 required the FAA to 
publish a final Powered-Lift SFAR no later than November 16, 
2024, the FAA accomplished the task a month early, announcing 
the final SFAR on October 22, 2024.\109\
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    \108\ Revise Airplane Definition to Incorporate Powered-lift 
Operations, RIN 2120-AL72, Unified Agenda, Office of Information and 
Regulatory Affairs; FAA Reauthorization: Enhancing America's Gold 
Standard in Aviation Safety, Hearing Before the Subcomm. on Aviation of 
the H. Comm. on Transp. and Infrastructure, 118th Cong. (Feb. 7, 2023) 
(statement of David Boulter, Acting Assoc. Admin. for Aviation Safety, 
FAA).
    \109\ Press Release, FAA, With New Rule, FAA is Ready for Air 
Travel of the Future, (Oct. 22, 2024) available at https://www.faa.gov/
newsroom/new-rule-faa-ready-air-travel-future.

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    Electric Aircraft Infrastructure Pilot Program

    Some AAM operators will leverage existing aviation 
infrastructure, such as airports and heliports, while others 
may require new facilities, such as vertiports, to accommodate 
growing operations.\110\ Section 745 establishes a five-year 
pilot program allowing up to ten eligible airports to acquire, 
install, and operate equipment to support the operations of AAM 
vehicles and to construct or modify related infrastructure to 
support such equipment.\111\ On May 12, 2025, FAA issued a 
program guidance letter (PGL) for this pilot program to provide 
information on how airports may prepare for participation; 
however, it does not include a timeline for applications.\112\
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    \110\ FAA, Advanced Air Mobility Infrastructure, (Oct. 15, 2024), 
available at https://www.faa.gov/airports/new_entrants/
aam_infrastructure.
    \111\ FAARA 2024, supra note 10 at Sec.  745, 138 Stat. 1202.
    \112\ FAA, Reauthorization Program Guidance Letter (R-PGL) 25-06: 
Planning and Project Eligibility, (May 12, 2025), available at https://
www.faa.gov/airports/aip/guidance_
letters/R-PGL-25-06-Planning-Project-
Eligibility#::text=This%20Reauthorization
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                             IV. WITNESSES

     LMr. Darren Pleasance, President and Chief 
Executive Officer, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
     LMr. Edward M. Bolen, President and Chief 
Executive Officer, National Business Aviation Association
     LMr. Michael Robbins, President and Chief 
Executive Officer, Association of Uncrewed Vehicle Systems 
International
     LCaptain Jody Reven, President, Southwest Airlines 
Pilots Association
     LMs. Sara Nelson, International President, 
Association of Flight Attendants--CWG, AFL-CIO
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    Addendum to SSM for Aviation Subcommittee Hearing on ``FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024: Stakeholder Perspectives on 
Implementation One Year Later''

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Sec. 215.............................  Definition of Air        Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Traffic Control System.                           November 13, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 219.............................  Authority to Use         Complete...............  Effective as of July 1,
                                        Electronic Services.                              2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 224.............................  FAA Participation in     Complete...............  Effective as of March
                                        Industry Standards                                4, 2024.
                                        Organizations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 227.............................  Administrative Services  Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Franchise Fund.                                   Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 229.............................  Advanced Aviation        Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Technology and                                    the statutory deadline
                                        Innovation Steering                               in this section.
                                        Committee.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 301.............................  Helicopter Air           Complete...............  Briefing held December
                                        Ambulance Operations.                             17, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 304.............................  Training of              In Progress............  FAA is finalizing a
                                        organization                                      notice that will
                                        delegation authority                              require ODA holders to
                                        unit members.                                     have a recurrent
                                                                                          training program.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 305.............................  Clarification on safety  Complete...............  Effective as of May 16,
                                        management system                                 2024.
                                        information disclosure.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 308.............................  Scalability of Safety    Complete...............  Effective as of July
                                        Management Systems.                               11, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 309.............................  Review Final Safety      Complete...............  Effective as of June
                                        Management System Rule.                           25, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 325.............................  National Simulator       In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Program Policies and                              meet the deadline.
                                        Guidance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 310.............................  Improvement of           Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        certification process.                            the statutory deadline
                                                                                          in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 314.............................  Risk Model for           In Progress............  FAA will brief Congress
                                        Production Facility                               no later than July
                                        Inspections.                                      2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 315.............................  Review of FAA Use of     In Progress............  Contract officially
                                        Aviation Safety Data.                             awarded to a third-
                                                                                          party vendor in
                                                                                          February 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 323.............................  Study on impacts of      In Progress............  National Academies of
                                        temperature in                                    Sciences, Engineering,
                                        aircraft cabins.                                  and Medicine is
                                                                                          working to comply with
                                                                                          this requirement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 328.............................  Restricted Category      Complete...............  Effective as of May 16,
                                        Aircraft Maintenance                              2024.
                                        and Operations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 331.............................  Update of FAA Standards  Complete...............  Effective as of July
                                        to Allow Distribution                             15, 2024.
                                        and Use of Certain
                                        Restricted Routes and
                                        Terminal Procedures.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 337.............................  Flight Service Stations  Complete...............  Effective as of October
                                                                                          11, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 340.............................  Study on FAA Use of      In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Mandatory Equal Access                            meet the deadline.
                                        to Justice Act Waivers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 342.............................  Don Young Alaska         In Progress............  Annual Report Submitted
                                        Aviation Safety                                   to CST and T&I on May
                                        Initiative.                                       16, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 344.............................  Changed Product Rule     In Progress............  Changed Product Rule
                                        Reform.                                           ARC launched in June
                                                                                          2024, and a report was
                                                                                          provided to the
                                                                                          Administrator in
                                                                                          December 2024 which is
                                                                                          currently in FAA
                                                                                          review.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 345.............................  Administrative           Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        authority for civil                               Enactment.
                                        penalties.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 347.............................  Zero Tolerance for Near- In Progress............  FAA remains on track
                                        Misses, Runway                                    with required
                                        Incursions and Surface                            deadlines.
                                        Safety Risks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 348.............................  Improvements to          In Progress............  ASIAS program will soon
                                        Aviation Safety                                   begin implementation
                                        Information Analysis                              of a new advanced
                                        and Sharing Program.                              technology tool to
                                                                                          more rapidly process
                                                                                          safety data and
                                                                                          produce safety
                                                                                          intelligence.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 350.............................  Secondary Cockpit        In Progress............  FAA is on track to
                                        Barriers.                                         submit the report in
                                                                                          July 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 355.............................  Tower Marking Notice of  Complete...............  FAA issued notice to
                                        Proposed Rulemaking.                              implement section 2110
                                                                                          of the FAA Extension,
                                                                                          Safety and Security
                                                                                          Act of 2016; Effective
                                                                                          as of November 18,
                                                                                          2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 356.............................  Promotion of Civil       Complete...............  Effective as of July
                                        Aeronautics and Safety                            10, 2024.
                                        of Air Commerce.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 357.............................  Educational and          Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Professional                                      September 27, 2024.
                                        Development.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 359.............................  Availability of          Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Personnel for                                     February 5, 2025.
                                        Inspections, Site
                                        Visits, and Training.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 366.............................  25-Hour Cockpit Voice    In Progress............  Draft rule is currently
                                        Recorder.                                         in the regulatory
                                                                                          review process.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 372.............................  Enhanced Qualification   Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Program for Restricted                            the statutory deadline
                                        Airline Transport                                 in this section.
                                        Pilot Certificate.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 391.............................  Findings...............  Complete...............  Effective upon
                                                                                          Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 392.............................  Aerospace Product        Complete...............  Effective as of August
                                        Safety.                                           28, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 393.............................  Federal Aviation         Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Administration                                    February 13, 2024.
                                        regulations, policy
                                        and guidance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 396.............................  GAO Report on            In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Cybersecurity of                                  meet the deadline.
                                        Commercial Aviation
                                        Avionics.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 401.............................  Repeal of duplicative    Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        or obsolete workforce                             Enactment.
                                        programs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 403.............................  Bessie Coleman Women in  Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Aviation Advisory                                 the statutory deadline
                                        Committee.                                        in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 407.............................  Airman's Medical Bill    Complete...............  Effective as of January
                                        of Rights.                                        28, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 408.............................  Improved Designee        Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Misconduct Reporting                              February 26, 2025.
                                        Process.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 411.............................  Aeromedical Innovation   In Progress............  FAA formed the
                                        and Modernization                                 workgroup in November
                                        Working Group.                                    2024, and its report
                                                                                          is due in November
                                                                                          2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 414.............................  Study of High School     In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Aviation Maintenance                              meet the deadline.
                                        Training Programs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 416.............................  Air Traffic Controller   In Progress............  MITRE study is
                                        Instructor                                        complete, and the FAA
                                        Recruitment, Hiring,                              is developing the
                                        and Retention.                                    implementation plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 421.............................  Crewmember Pumping       Complete...............  Effective as of January
                                        Guidance.                                         16, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 422.............................  GAO Study and Report on  In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Extent and Effects of                             meet the deadline.
                                        Commercial Aviation
                                        Pilot Shortage on
                                        Regional/Commuter
                                        Carriers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 425.............................  Joint aviation           Delayed................  FAA is finalizing the
                                        employment training                               charter and then will
                                        working group.                                    move to membership
                                                                                          solicitation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 428.............................  Direct hire authority    Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        utilization.                                      the statutory deadline
                                                                                          in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 432.............................  Deterring crewmember     In Progress.
                                        interference.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 433.............................  Use of Biographical      Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Assessments.                                      September 20, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 434.............................  Employee Assault         Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Prevention and                                    September 27, 2024.
                                        Response Plan
                                        Standards and Best
                                        Practices.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 437.............................  Air Traffic Control      Delayed................  FAA does not anticipate
                                        Workforce Staffing.                               Transportation
                                                                                          Research Board will
                                                                                          submit their report to
                                                                                          FAA & Congress until
                                                                                          summer 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 438.............................  Airport Service          In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Workforce Analysis.                               meet the deadline.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 439.............................  Federal Aviation         In Progress............  Plan submitted to CST
                                        Administration Academy                            and T&I on May 16,
                                        and Facility Expansion                            2025.
                                        Plan.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 440.............................  Improving Federal        In Progress............  FAA released the Notice
                                        Aviation Workforce                                of Funding Opportunity
                                        Development Programs.                             in January 2025 for
                                                                                          the pilot and
                                                                                          maintenance technician
                                                                                          grants, but has not
                                                                                          yet established the
                                                                                          manufacturing
                                                                                          workforce grant.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 514.............................  GAO Study on             In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Competition and                                   meet the deadline.
                                        Consolidation in the
                                        Air Carrier Industry.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 515.............................  GAO Study and Report on  In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        the Operational                                   meet the deadline.
                                        Preparedness of Air
                                        Carriers for Certain
                                        Events.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 519.............................  Seat Dimensions........  Complete...............  Effective upon
                                                                                          Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 608.............................  Consideration of Small   Complete...............  Effective as of July
                                        Hub Control Towers.                               26, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 612.............................  Briefing on Radio        Complete...............  Briefing on December
                                        Communications                                    18, 2024.
                                        Coverage Around
                                        Mountainous Terrain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 616.............................  Briefing on LIT VORTAC   Complete...............  Briefing on December
                                        Project.                                          18, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 619.............................  NextGen programs.......  Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                                                                          the statutory
                                                                                          deadlines in this
                                                                                          section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 620.............................  Contract tower program.  In Progress............  FAA is finalizing the
                                                                                          technical requirements
                                                                                          for approved
                                                                                          controller situational
                                                                                          awareness tools.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 622.............................  Audit of legacy systems  In Progress............  FAA entered into
                                                                                          agreement with MITRE
                                                                                          and plans to have the
                                                                                          report within 15
                                                                                          months of enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 628.............................  Required Consultation    Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        with National Parks                               February 3, 2025.
                                        Overflights Advisory
                                        Group.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 631.............................  Update to FAA Order on   Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Airway Planning                                   December 19, 2024.
                                        Standard.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 704.............................  Extension of             Complete...............  Effective as of May 16,
                                        competitive access                                2024.
                                        report requirement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 715.............................  Special carryover        Complete...............  Effective as of March
                                        assumption rule.                                  6, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 717.............................  Revision of              Complete...............  Effective as of April
                                        discretionary                                     4, 2025.
                                        categories.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 722.............................  Long-term management     Complete...............  Effective as of April
                                        plans.                                            4, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 726.............................  General aviation         Complete...............  Report submitted to CST
                                        airport runway                                    and T&I, Effective as
                                        extension pilot                                   of April 4, 2025.
                                        program.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 732.............................  Populous counties        Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        without airports.                                 Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 736.............................  Transportation Demand    In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Management at Airports.                           meet the deadline.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 739.............................  Reclassification of      Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        unclassified relievers.                           September 30, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 742.............................  Increasing Energy        In Progress............  FAA intends to meet the
                                        Efficiency of Airports                            requirements of this
                                        and Meeting Current                               section by May 16,
                                        and Future Energy                                 2025.
                                        Power Demands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 743.............................  Review of Airport        Complete...............  Effective as of October
                                        Layout Plans.                                     3, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 747.............................  Notice of funding        Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        opportunity.                                      September 30, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 749.............................  Airport Diagram          Complete...............  Effective as of July
                                        Terminology.                                      30, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 751.............................  Minority and             Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        disadvantaged business                            September 26, 2024.
                                        participation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 755.............................  GAO Study on Transit     In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Access.                                           meet the deadline.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 760.............................  Washington, DC           Complete...............  Report submitted to CST
                                        Metropolitan Area                                 and T&I, Effective as
                                        Special Flight Rules                              of May 16, 2025.
                                        Area.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 761.............................  Study on Air Cargo       In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Operations in Puerto                              meet the deadline.
                                        Rico.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 762.............................  Progress Reports on the  In Progress............  FAA continues to
                                        National Transition                               provide required
                                        Plan Related to a                                 progress reports.
                                        Flourine-Free
                                        Firefighting Foam.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 767.............................  PFAS-Related Resources   In Progress............  FAA stood up the
                                        for Airports.                                     implementation team
                                                                                          and is preparing to
                                                                                          launch the program
                                                                                          after receiving
                                                                                          appropriations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 773.............................  Homestead Joint Use....  Complete...............  Effective as of
                                                                                          September 13, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 774B............................  Study on Improvements    In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        for Certain Nonhub                                meet the deadline.
                                        Airports.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 782.............................  Repeal of burdensome     Complete...............  Effective as of April
                                        emissions credit                                  4, 2025.
                                        requirements.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 784.............................  Subchapter III           Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        definitions.                                      Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 785.............................  Pilot program extension  Complete...............  Effective as of April
                                                                                          4, 2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 788.............................  Categorical exclusions.  Complete...............  Effective as of
                                                                                          December 19, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 790.............................  Recommendations on       In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Reducing Rotorcraft                               meet the deadline.
                                        Noise in District of
                                        Columbia.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 809.............................  Ensuring Safe Landings   Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        During Off-Airport                                September 24, 2024.
                                        Operations.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 813.............................  Temporary Airman         Complete...............  Effective as of
                                        Certificates.                                     September 24, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 814.............................  Letter of Deviation      Complete...............  FAA issued an Advisory
                                        Authority.                                        Circular, Effective
                                                                                          October 2, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 815.............................  BasicMed For Examiners   Complete...............  Regulatory updates to
                                        Administering Tests or                            BasicMed effective as
                                        Proficiency Checks.                               of November 18, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 817.............................  Deadline to Eliminate    Complete...............  Effective as of May 9,
                                        Aircraft Registration                             2024.
                                        Backlog.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 820.............................  Flight Instructor        Complete...............  Removed expiration date
                                        Certificates.                                     on flight certificate.
                                                                                          Effective as of
                                                                                          October 1, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 822.............................  Application of           Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        policies, orders and                              Enactment.
                                        guidance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 825.............................  Exclusion of gyroplanes  Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        from fuel system                                  Enactment.
                                        requirements.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 826.............................  Public aircraft flight   Complete...............  Completed October 2,
                                        time logging                                      2024.
                                        eligibility.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 828.............................  Expansion of Basic Med.  Complete...............  FAA promulgated rules
                                                                                          to enact changes to
                                                                                          Basic Med in November
                                                                                          2024. FAA remains on
                                                                                          track to brief
                                                                                          Congress in 2028.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 830.............................  Charitable Flight Fuel   Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Reimbursement                                     Enactment.
                                        Exemptions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 902.............................  Unmanned Aircraft in     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        the Arctic.                                       Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 903.............................  Small UAS Safety         Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Standards Technical                               Enactment.
                                        Corrections.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 904.............................  Airport Safety and       Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Airspace Hazard                                   Enactment.
                                        Mitigation and
                                        Enforcement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 906.............................  Electronic Conspicuity   In Progress............  GAO remains on track to
                                        Study.                                            meet the deadline.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 912.............................  Drone infrastructure     Delayed................  DOT has failed to meet
                                        inspection grant                                  the statutory deadline
                                        program.                                          in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 915.............................  Termination of the       Complete...............  Meetings cancellation
                                        Advanced Aviation                                 notice published in
                                        Advisory Committee.                               Federal Register on
                                                                                          May 30, 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 916.............................  Unmanned and Autonomous  In Progress............  FAA is finalizing the
                                        Flight Advisory                                   charter and then will
                                        Committee.                                        move to membership
                                                                                          solicitation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 922.............................  Extension of Know        Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Before You Fly                                    Enactment.
                                        Campaign.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 923.............................  Public aircraft          Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        definition.                                       Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 926.............................  Public Safety Use of     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Tethered UAS.                                     Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 927.............................  Extending Special        In Progress............  FAA is on track to
                                        Authority for Certain                             develop related
                                        Unmanned Aircraft                                 guidance for UAS
                                        Systems.                                          operators by summer
                                                                                          2025.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 929.............................  Applications for         Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Designation.                                      the statutory deadline
                                                                                          in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 930.............................  Beyond Visual Line of    Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Sight Operations for                              the statutory deadline
                                        Unmanned Aircraft                                 in this section.
                                        Systems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 931.............................  Acceptable Levels of     Complete...............  Methodology published
                                        Risk and Risk                                     in September 2024.
                                        Assessment Methodology.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 935.............................  Protection of Public     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Gatherings.                                       Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 955.............................  Rules for Operation of   Complete...............  FAA published SFAR in
                                        Powered-Lift Aircraft.                            October 2024.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 961.............................  Center for Advanced      Complete...............  FAA announced on April
                                        Aviation Technologies                             23, 2025 that Texas
                                        (CAAT).                                           A&M will be managing
                                                                                          the CAAT.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1004............................  National aviation        Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        research plan                                     Enactment.
                                        modification.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1005............................  Advanced Materials       Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Center of Excellence                              Enactment.
                                        enhancements.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1006............................  Center of Excellence     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        for Unmanned Aircraft                             Enactment.
                                        Systems.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1013............................  Contract Weather         Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        Observers program.                                Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1018............................  Next Generation Radio    Delayed................  FAA has failed to meet
                                        Altimeters.                                       the statutory deadline
                                                                                          in this section.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1017............................  Center of Excellence     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        for Alternative Jet                               Enactment.
                                        Fuels and Environment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1106............................  Prohibition on mandates  Complete...............  Effective upon
                                                                                          Enactment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Sec. 1107............................  COVID-19 vaccination     Complete...............  Effective upon
                                        status.                                           Enactment
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


 
                FAA REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2024: STAKE-
                  HOLDER  PERSPECTIVES  ON  IMPLEMENTA-
                  TION ONE YEAR LATER

                              ----------                              

                        WEDNESDAY, JUNE 4, 2025

                  House of Representatives,
                          Subcommittee on Aviation,
            Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to call, at 10:05 a.m., in 
Room 2167, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Troy E. Nehls 
(Chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
    Mr. Nehls. The Subcommittee on Aviation will come to order.
    I ask unanimous consent that the chairman be authorized to 
declare a recess at any time during today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that the Members not on the 
subcommittee be permitted to sit with the subcommittee at 
today's hearing and ask questions.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    And as a reminder, if Members wish to insert a document 
into the record, please email it to [email protected].
    I will now recognize myself for an opening statement for 5 
minutes.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. TROY E. NEHLS OF TEXAS, CHAIRMAN, 
                    SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION

    Mr. Nehls. May 16, 2025, marked the 1-year anniversary of 
the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 being signed into law--a 
great, great legislation. Crafting this legislation was a 
monumental task that took place over the course of 2 years and 
involved over 2,100 stakeholder and Member requests.
    Thanks to the leadership of Chairman Graves, the largest 
and most comprehensive FAA Reauthorization Act was signed into 
law. This legislation touched every major sector of the 
aviation industry and included provisions to ensure that the 
United States remains the global leader in aviation.
    Specifically, the law maintains aviation safety as the 
FAA's number-one priority, as it should; contains the first-
ever general aviation title to strengthen America's general 
aviation sector; addresses workforce development challenges for 
qualified workers, including pilots, mechanics, and air traffic 
controllers; invests in our country's airport infrastructure by 
expediting project deliveries and prioritizing investments for 
small and general aviation airports; ensures the safe and 
efficient integration of new technologies, such as drones and 
advanced air mobility; and provides necessary reforms to 
enhance the passenger experience for the traveling public.
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 included over 500 
mandates for the FAA and the Department of Transportation to 
implement over the course of 5 years. I am eager to hear from 
our witnesses today about the progress that has or has not been 
made in implementing the law.
    Today, we have representatives from a broad cross-section 
of aviation stakeholders, including general aviation, new 
entrants, and commercial airlines. It is critical that we hear 
from all of them as we work to ensure that this law is 
implemented as Congress intended.
    I want to acknowledge upfront that implementing a law of 
this scale, it is no small task. It requires coordination, 
persistence, and a unified effort across Government and 
industry.
    That said, history tells us that the relevant agencies have 
often struggled; they have struggled to meet such a challenge. 
In fact, numerous provisions of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 
2018 and even some policy directives from the 2016 FAA 
extension have yet to be implemented to this day, and, quite 
honestly, that is unacceptable.
    While the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 was 
comprehensive, ambitious, and challenging, it set an achievable 
timeline for implementation and reform.
    Our reputation as a world leader in aviation is on the 
line, but I am extremely confident that the Trump 
administration, they will get it right. I look forward to 
partnering with both President Trump and Secretary Duffy to 
protect and maintain that hard-earned reputation.
    And while progress has been made on the implementation of 
the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, several important 
provisions have been delayed, such as: section 372, the 
establishment of an enhanced qualification program for 
restricted airline transport pilot, ATP, certificates that 
utilizes best-in-class simulator technology to ensure that we 
have the best trained and safest pilots in the world; section 
930, a rulemaking that will allow for scaled, safe, beyond 
visual line of sight operations for unmanned aircraft systems 
in United States airspace; and section 1110, a report that 
provides an update on the creation of Federal and international 
policies that would establish the United States as the global 
leader in civil supersonic aircraft.
    It is essential that this subcommittee, along with the 
broader aviation community, hold the DOT and FAA accountable to 
achieve the goals set forth in our legislation.
    I want to thank our witnesses for being here today. I look 
forward to working with each one of you to ensure this pivotal 
law gets implemented on time and as intended.
    [Mr. Nehls' prepared statement follows:]

                                 
     Prepared Statement of Hon. Troy E. Nehls of Texas, Chairman, 
                        Subcommittee on Aviation
    May 16, 2025, marked the one-year anniversary of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 being signed into law. Crafting this 
legislation was a monumental task that took place over the course of 
two years and involved over 2,100 stakeholder and Member requests. 
Thanks to the leadership of Chairman Graves, the largest and most 
comprehensive FAA reauthorization act was signed in to law.
    This legislation touched every major sector of the aviation 
industry and included provisions to ensure that the United States 
remains the global leader in aviation.
    Specifically, the law maintains aviation safety as the FAA's number 
one priority; contains the first ever general aviation title to 
strengthen America's general aviation sector; addresses workforce 
development challenges for qualified workers, including pilots, 
mechanics, and air traffic controllers; invests in our country's 
airport infrastructure by expediting project deliveries and 
prioritizing investments for small and general aviation airports; 
ensures the safe and efficient integration of new technologies, such as 
drones and advanced air mobility; and provides necessary reforms to 
enhance the passenger experience for the traveling public.
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 included over 500 mandates for 
the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the Department of 
Transportation (DOT) to implement over the course of five years. I am 
eager to hear from our witnesses today about the progress that has, or 
has not, been made in implementing the law.
    Today, we have representatives of a broad cross section of aviation 
stakeholders, including general aviation, new entrants, and commercial 
airlines. It is critical that we hear from all of them as we work to 
ensure that this law is implemented as Congress intended.
    I want to acknowledge up front that implementing a law of this 
scale is no small task. It requires coordination, persistence, and a 
unified effort across government and industry. That said, history tells 
us that the relevant agencies have often struggled to meet such a 
challenge. In fact, numerous provisions from the FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2018, and even some policy directives from the 2016 FAA 
extension, have yet to be implemented to this day.
    While the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 was comprehensive, 
ambitious, and challenging, it set an achievable timeline for 
implementation and reform.
    Our reputation as a world leader in aviation is on the line, but I 
am extremely confident that the Trump Administration will get this 
right. I look forward to partnering with both the President and 
Secretary Duffy to protect and maintain that hard-earned reputation.
    And while progress has been made on the implementation of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024, several important provisions have been 
delayed, such as section 372, the establishment of an Enhanced 
Qualification Program (EQP) for restricted airline transport pilot 
(ATP) certificates that utilizes best-in-class simulator technology to 
ensure that we have the best trained and safest pilots in the world; 
section 930, a rulemaking that will allow for scaled, safe beyond-
visual-line-of-sight operations for unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) in 
United States airspace; and section 1110, a report that provides an 
update on the creation of federal and international policies that would 
establish the United States as a global leader in civil supersonic 
aircraft.
    It is essential that this subcommittee, along with the broader 
aviation community, hold the DOT and FAA accountable to achieve the 
goals set forth in our legislation.
    I want to thank our witnesses for being here today, and I look 
forward to working with each of you to ensure this pivotal law gets 
implemented on time and as intended.

    Mr. Nehls. I now recognize Ranking Member Cohen for 5 
minutes for an opening.

  OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. STEVE COHEN OF TENNESSEE, RANKING 
                MEMBER, SUBCOMMITTEE ON AVIATION

    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    A little over a year ago, we passed the bipartisan FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024. It was a big, beautiful bill. It 
was landmark legislation to strengthen every facet of our 
aviation ecosystem.
    We met with all of the groups involved, the private sector, 
and we incorporated your suggestions, and we got it all in 
there. There were a few things that were open for quite a few 
years that were all included. Eighty provisions specifically 
aimed at improving aviation safety in the U.S., while other 
provisions will advance innovation and build upon the strength 
of our U.S. aviation economy.
    But laws and words do not save lives. It is the timely and 
accountable implementation that is so important. And, today, 
sadly, the stakes are higher than ever. The tragic collision 
over the Potomac earlier this year really brought it to our 
attention. The disturbing rise in near-misses has exposed 
additional serious vulnerabilities in the system. They are 
stark reminders that work to modernize and secure our aviation 
infrastructure cannot wait, and we must remain vigilant in the 
existing law's execution as well as be on the lookout for 
solutions to new problems.
    One of our most urgent needs today is to modernize our air 
traffic control system. FAA data and recent assessments show 
that too many of our systems are outdated, and the controller 
staffing shortages are stretching an already strained 
workforce, increasing operational risk.
    And our previous administration tried to bring $8 billion 
in to work on that. The timing didn't work and the coordination 
with the Senate didn't work, but they saw the problem and had 
that $8 billion request to start upgrading--continue 
upgrading--they had already started with $1 billion a year--the 
air traffic control system.
    Nowhere has this been clearer than Newark Airport, where 
ATC equipment failures and staffing challenges have disrupted 
operations and raised safety concerns. Apparently, United says 
that they have the best on-schedule performance of any airports 
in the New York metropolitan area recently and they have the 
runway completed and things should be fine in Newark. Let's 
hope so.
    Congress gave the FAA clear directives through the 2024 
reauthorization to modernize critical infrastructure, expedite 
deployment of new technologies, and hire and train the next 
generation of air traffic controllers. This was not a 
suggestion, it was a mandate, and we need to see results.
    The Chair puts on an appearance, a facade, of being a nice, 
friendly, easygoing guy. He's not. He wants this done and done 
now. He will be on your case if you don't do it.
    At the same time, we must ensure that the FAA keeps pace 
with emerging technologies like advanced air mobility, drones, 
and autonomous systems. The 2024 reauthorization laid the 
groundwork, but delays in regulatory action risk ceding 
America's leadership in aviation innovation to global 
competitors. We cannot afford to fall behind.
    Equally important is growing our aviation workforce. From 
pilots and mechanics to controllers and flight attendants, the 
aviation sector depends on a highly trained, highly skilled 
workforce. For this reason, Congress included numerous reforms 
and new programs in the FAA law to help recruit and develop the 
next generation of aviation professionals and keep them safe. 
Too many violent attacks on flight attendants and in the 
airplanes. It needs to stop, and hopefully that will--we will 
find out where we stand with that.
    Unfortunately, the administration has moved swiftly in the 
wrong direction, downsizing and terminating the very people and 
technical expertise responsible for the law's implementation. 
How much of this was the new transportation/FAA administration? 
How much of it was DOGE and Mr. Musk? And maybe it was a bad 
day; maybe his drugs weren't balanced or something. But they 
eliminated a lot of people we needed, and that is one of the 
problems we have.
    It is critical that the FAA reverse this ill-conceived 
course and move quickly to implement the carefully constructed 
provisions of the law.
    I look forward to working with Chair Nehls and our 
committee leaders Graves and Larsen to begin developing a 
bipartisan ATC modernization package that ensures our aviation 
system is the safest, innovative, and is the most resilient in 
the world.
    I appreciate the witnesses for joining us today. I look 
forward to hearing your perspectives on progress made and 
challenges that remain as we continue our oversight of the FAA.
    I yield back.
    [Mr. Cohen's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Hon. Steve Cohen of Tennessee, Ranking Member, 
                        Subcommittee on Aviation
    Thank you, Chairman Nehls.
    A little over one year ago, we passed the bipartisan FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024--a landmark law we designed to strengthen 
every facet of our aviation ecosystem.
    This law includes nearly 80 provisions specifically aimed at 
improving aviation safety in the U.S., while other provisions will 
advance innovation and build upon the strength of the U.S. aviation 
economy.
    But laws and words alone do not save lives. They require timely and 
accountable implementation.
    And today, sadly, the stakes are higher than ever.
    The tragic collision over the Potomac earlier this year and a 
disturbing rise in near-misses have exposed additional serious 
vulnerabilities in our system.
    These are stark reminders that our work to modernize and secure our 
aviation infrastructure cannot wait--and that we must remain vigilant 
in the existing law's execution, as well as be on the lookout for 
solutions to new problems.
    One of our most urgent needs today is to modernize our air traffic 
control system.
    FAA data and recent assessments show that too many of our systems 
are outdated, and that controller staffing shortages are stretching an 
already strained workforce, increasing operational risk.
    Nowhere has this been clearer than at Newark Airport, where ATC 
equipment failures and staffing challenges have disrupted operations 
and heightened safety concerns.
    Congress gave the FAA clear directives through the 2024 
Reauthorization to modernize critical infrastructure, expedite 
deployment of new technologies, and hire and train the next generation 
of air traffic controllers.
    That was not a suggestion--it was a mandate. We need to see 
results.
    At the same time, we must ensure that the FAA keeps pace with 
emerging technologies like Advanced Air Mobility, drones and autonomous 
systems.
    The 2024 reauthorization laid the groundwork, but delays in 
regulatory action risk ceding America's leadership in aviation 
innovation to global competitors. We cannot afford to fall behind.
    Equally important is growing our aviation workforce. From pilots 
and mechanics to controllers and flight attendants, the aviation sector 
depends on a highly trained, highly skilled workforce. For this reason, 
Congress included numerous reforms and new programs in the FAA law to 
help recruit and develop the next generation of aviation professionals.
    Unfortunately, the Administration has moved swiftly in the wrong 
direction, downsizing and terminating the very people and technical 
expertise responsible for the law's implementation. It is critical that 
the FAA reverse this ill-conceived course, and move quickly to 
implement the carefully constructed provisions of the law.
    I look forward to working with Chairman Nehls and our committee 
leaders--Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen--to begin developing 
a bipartisan ATC modernization package that ensures our aviation system 
is the safest, innovative and most resilient in the world.
    I appreciate the witnesses for joining us today and look forward to 
hearing their perspectives on the progress made and the challenges that 
remain as we continue our oversight of FAA implementation.

    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Steve, for your kind words.
    I would like to now welcome our witnesses and thank them 
for being here today. Thank you all.
    I will take a moment to explain our lighting system. Three 
lights in front of you. Green, go, obviously. Yellow, you are 
running out of time. And red, please wrap up your remarks.
    I ask unanimous consent that the witnesses' full statement 
be included into the record.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that the record of today's 
hearing remain open until such time as our witnesses have 
provided answers to any questions that may be submitted to them 
in writing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I also ask unanimous consent that the record remain open 
for 15 days for any additional comments and information 
submitted by Members or witnesses to be included in the record 
of today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    As your written testimony has been made part of the record, 
the subcommittee asks that you limit your oral remarks to 5 
minutes.
    With that, Mr. Pleasance, you are recognized for the 5 
minutes.

 TESTIMONY OF DARREN PLEASANCE, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
  OFFICER, AIRCRAFT OWNERS AND PILOTS ASSOCIATION; EDWARD M. 
BOLEN, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, NATIONAL BUSINESS 
  AVIATION ASSOCIATION; MICHAEL ROBBINS, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF 
  EXECUTIVE OFFICER, ASSOCIATION FOR UNCREWED VEHICLE SYSTEMS 
    INTERNATIONAL; CAPTAIN JODY REVEN, PRESIDENT, SOUTHWEST 
  AIRLINES PILOTS ASSOCIATION; AND SARA NELSON, INTERNATIONAL 
   PRESIDENT, ASSOCIATION OF FLIGHT ATTENDANTS--CWA, AFL-CIO

 TESTIMONY OF DARREN PLEASANCE, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
        OFFICER, AIRCRAFT OWNERS AND PILOTS ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Pleasance. Great. Thank you, Chairman, and thank you, 
Ranking Member Cohen and the rest of the members of the 
committee.
    I am Darren Pleasance. I am the president and CEO of the 
Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, or AOPA, and I am 
privileged and pleased to be here to provide testimony back on 
our view on how the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 is being 
implemented.
    Just for level-setting, general aviation is essentially all 
aviation that is not military and not commercial aviation. So 
it is a very vibrant and diverse portion of our aviation 
ecosystem. There are over 5,000 public airports, 14,000 landing 
strips, heliports, and other landing facilities that make up 
this important and critical part of our national infrastructure 
around the country.
    I would like to commend, as the chairman said, full 
committee Chairman Graves and Ranking Member Larsen and this 
broader committee for your great work last year, bipartisan 
work, in passing the FAA reauthorization bill of 2024. It was a 
landmark piece of legislation, as was alluded to a few moments 
ago.
    A particularly important part of that was that it included 
a very specific call-out for general aviation that had never 
been a part of the bill in the past. And in there, there were 
specific policies and programs that directly benefit and 
enhance the vitality of general aviation in this country. And 
we feel very grateful for that, that work being done.
    This hearing gives us the opportunity today to speak about 
what is happening with the implementation, but also follows 
nicely on the other work that is happening with President Trump 
and with Secretary Duffy on the work to modernize ATC. It 
wasn't a specific part of the bill, but it is an important 
part, as Ranking Member Cohen alluded to, to ensuring that we 
maintain preeminence in the world. So I look forward to being 
able to speak to that.
    We also appreciate--I specifically appreciate this 
committee's work on creating a downpayment, let's call it, the 
$12\1/2\ billion funding, to help at least get the 
modernization effort going. So I appreciate that.
    AOPA is a member of the Modern Skies Coalition, which is a 
group of many aviation organizations across the country who are 
stacking hands and aligning on the importance of ATC 
modernization. And we meet regularly, and we are fully behind 
the efforts of this committee to help take that from concept to 
reality.
    We do currently--and I think this is important not to lose 
sight of--we have the safest aviation ecosystem in the world. 
It remains the safest in the world. That doesn't mean we can't 
be better. And so we feel strongly, as AOPA, in partnership 
with others up here, that we need to continue to work together 
to help make it even better into the future.
    There are too many areas within the FAA Reauthorization Act 
for me to speak to all of them, so I thought I would just call 
out a few of them and provide perspective back on those.
    One is around privacy. It is very important to pilots to be 
able to maintain privacy. And there was an aspect of the bill 
that required the FAA to put in place the means for pilots to 
withhold their personal information and separate it, in a 
sense, from the aircraft registry. That work has been done and 
was just recently implemented about a month and a half ago or 
so, so we feel pleased with that.
    Conversely, though, we do still have concerns around the 
area of ADS-B. And that has unfortunately become a term that I 
suspect most of you know about because of the DC accident not 
that many months ago, where ADS-B is the technology that plays 
such a critical role in ensuring aircraft don't run into each 
other. And, increasingly, we are seeing that technology being 
used for things other than safety, whether it is collecting 
fees of some sort or frivolous lawsuits or other sorts of FAA 
enforcement action, which, in our view, goes counter to the 
primary premise of ADS-B, which was safety. And anything that 
occurs that puts safety at risk or deters people from 
implementing this technology is concerning to us. So we think 
there is more work to do there.
    BasicMed is an area this committee, years ago, partnered 
with AOPA and others in the industry to create an easier way 
for pilots to get their medical so they can fly. And this 
committee was able to create BasicMed in a way that allowed 
more than 90,000 pilots now to take advantage of that without 
any reduction in safety. The most recent FAA reauthorization 
bill enhanced that, and that has been implemented, so we are 
quite happy with where BasicMed has arrived today. Still more 
work to be done, in partnership with Canada and others, but we 
feel good about where that is.
    Fee transparency is an area of concern. The GAO, as part of 
the authorization bill, was required to go out and basically 
ensure that the fixed-base operators around the country are, in 
fact, establishing transparency with their fees and pricing so 
that, as pilots use this national airspace infrastructure, we 
are able to ensure they have visibility into what those fees 
will be. We would like to partner with the GAO to help them do 
that. We get calls almost every day on this topic, and we are 
concerned about some of the egregious fees we are starting to 
see at specific airports.
    One other thing I will call out is aeromedical. While the 
FAA ATC system needs to be enhanced and modernized, so does the 
FAA aeromedical. Dr. Susan Northrup has done a tremendous job, 
we believe, in moving things forward and making significant 
progress. However, there is more to do, and there is a lot of 
technology involved to help her and her team do what they need 
to do.
    So, with that, I would like to again thank the committee 
for allowing us to present and opine on how things are going. 
And I look forward to questions from the committee over the 
balance of the morning.
    [Mr. Pleasance's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Darren Pleasance, President and Chief Executive 
            Officer, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
    Chairman Nehls, Ranking Member Cohen, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to provide the Aircraft 
Owners and Pilots Association's (AOPA) perspective on the 
implementation of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024.
    AOPA is the world's largest aviation membership organization, 
representing General Aviation interests of more than 300,000 aircraft 
owners and pilots across the country. General Aviation consists of all 
operations that are not military or commercial. These include 
operations for personal use, recreational, business, medevac, law 
enforcement, agriculture, firefighting, disaster assistance, just to 
name a few. Our members operate at airports in thousands of communities 
in every State and support the local economies in these areas.
    The General Aviation fleet in the United States is the largest in 
the world and consists of well over 200,000 active aircraft including 
piston, turbine, and jets. To help illustrate the enormous size of this 
aviation sector, in comparison, the U.S. commercial airline fleet has 
about 6,000 airplanes.
    For 86 years, AOPA has stayed true to its mission of protecting the 
freedom to fly and I am proud and humbled to be only the 6th President 
serving the Association since its inception in 1939. Guiding, 
protecting, and promoting this uniquely American experience, so we can 
pass it along, better than we received it, to the next generation of 
aviators.
    I would like to commend Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen and 
all members of the Committee for the bipartisan work in passing a 5-
year FAA reauthorization in the last Congress. The FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024, Public Law 118-63, is both historic and transformative for 
the GA industry, as it included the first ever General Aviation title 
which gives undivided attention to programs and policies that directly 
impact the unique needs of aircraft owners and pilots.
    This hearing is timely given the efforts being put forward to 
implement provisions included in last year's FAA Reauthorization, as 
well as the recent announcement by President Trump and Transportation 
Secretary Sean Duffy calling for a completely new and modern air 
traffic control system.
    AOPA is a member of the Modern Skies Coalition, which represents 
all sectors of the aviation industry including airlines, general 
aviation, airports, labor, and manufacturers. The coalition strongly 
supports this modernization effort, and we look forward to 
collaborating with the Committee, Congress, and the Administration to 
make this proposal a reality.
    Having the entire aviation industry behind this effort is both 
important and unique. The time to upgrade this system is now and we 
applaud the downpayment this Committee and the House of Representatives 
put forward in the recent House passed Budget Reconciliation bill, 
commonly referred to as the ``One Big Beautiful Bill Act.''
    The leadership this Committee has shown in this area of air traffic 
control modernization is commendable, appreciated, and needed. 
Developing and deploying a new air traffic control system will require 
constant leadership, vigilance, accountability, milestones, 
benchmarking, incentives, and penalties if necessary. We cannot fail in 
getting this done.
    Procurement and acquisition processes also need to be streamlined, 
and this effort will also require transparency and strong oversight. 
With the Trump Administration, Congress, and the entire aviation 
industry unified, we can and must get this done. Ensuring the FAA has 
the most updated equipment and well-trained controllers is vital to 
maintaining the safest, largest, and most complex system in the world.
    And without a doubt, we do have the safest aviation system in the 
world, and it has never been safer. But that does not mean it cannot be 
safer than it is today. And we owe it to all who utilize this national 
airspace system to make it as safe as it can be and to invest in the 
technology and the staffing it requires to achieve that.
                       Impact of General Aviation
    General aviation in the United States provides a significant 
economic impact both nationally and to the communities in which we all 
live--a $339 billion dollar industry supporting more than 1.3 million 
jobs.
    Through the network of more than 5,000 public-use airports across 
the country as well as over 14,000 privately owned landing facilities, 
heliports, and airstrips nationwide, general aviation is an integral 
part of our nation's transportation system.
    As I mentioned earlier, General Aviation also provides significant 
and critical public benefits. These vital operations include emergency 
medical personnel and supplies delivery, disaster relief and recovery, 
search and rescue, humanitarian assistance, law enforcement, 
agricultural aviation activities, and much, much more.
                        General Aviation Safety
    While aircraft accidents often make headline news, what does not is 
the enormous size and scope of General Aviation, which comprises more 
than twenty-six million flight hours per year, representing more than 
thirty million takeoffs and landings by hundreds of thousands of 
General Aviation pilots.
    The AOPA Air Safety Institute publishes safety data annually, which 
reviews General Aviation accidents and analyzes trends in the data. In 
fact, General Aviation has seen a declining accident and fatality rate 
for more than 30 years. Since the early 1990s, the accident rate has 
dropped 45 percent, and the rate of fatal accidents has fallen even 
more--55 percent.

     General Aviation Accident and Fatal Accident Rates (1993	2022)

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    The graph shows the total accident and fatal accident rates for 
  general aviation since 1993. Source: AOPA Air Safety Institute and 
                 National Transportation Safety Board.

    According to the most recent FAA General Aviation and Part 135 
Activity survey, there were more than 214,000 active General Aviation 
aircraft in the fleet. The FAA calculates that General Aviation pilots 
collectively fly about 28.5 million hours each year--more than 78,000 
hours per day.
    At AOPA, we are always working to educate and inform pilots to 
further improve aviation safety. On April 1st, the AOPA Air Safety 
Institute--with support from more than two dozen other organizations 
and the FAA--launched the National Pause for General Aviation Safety. 
Over a six-month period, pilots are being asked to take a timeout to 
focus on safety and review a variety of videos, courses, and articles 
that cover every type of GA flying. Pilots are encouraged to visit 
GAsafe.org to learn more.
                   FAA Reauthorization Implementation
    Implementing the provisions from the 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act 
is imperative to address the challenges facing the aviation industry 
and I will briefly discuss the status and implementation of a number of 
key provisions that directly and positively impact General Aviation.
                       Pilot and Aircraft Privacy
    Pilot and aircraft privacy is an important issue. As you know, 
FAA's 2020 Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B) out 
mandate required pilots flying in most controlled airspace to equip 
their aircraft with this safety enhancing technology. More than 112,000 
General Aviation aircraft are now equipped at a direct cost of more 
than half a billion dollars.
    ADS-B out is an aviation surveillance technology that identifies 
the position of an aircraft and regularly broadcasts its position to 
controllers and other aircraft that have an ADS-B in receiver. The 
broadcast also provides altitude, speed, direction, and the aircraft's 
N-number. AOPA fully supported the 2020 mandate as we were assured ADS-
B data would only be used to improve air traffic safety and airspace 
efficiency.
    Unfortunately, we are now seeing ADS-B data being used for many 
other non-safety related areas including enforcement actions, frivolous 
lawsuits where complainants are suing for nuisance, trespass, and 
intentional infliction of emotional distress for aircraft flying in 
full compliance with FAA requirements.
    Pilots are now being forced to pay expensive legal fees to defend 
themselves against these questionable enforcement actions and frivolous 
lawsuits.
    Moreover, a cottage industry has emerged, and companies are now 
contracting with public-use airports to collect fees from pilots by 
gleaning ADS-B data, specifically the N number and then running it 
against the FAA's aircraft registry to obtain the name and address of 
the pilot.
    These actions bring numerous safety and individual privacy concerns 
and are a strong deterrent for other pilots to equip with this safety 
technology.
    In Montana, legislation to prohibit the use of ADS-B data for fee 
collection was recently signed into law by the governor. Similar 
legislation was also introduced in Minnesota. In order to avoid a 
patchwork of laws across the country, we strongly encourage the 
Committee to act in developing a national policy that ensures ADS-B 
data is not used for fee collection but used for its intended purpose, 
air traffic safety and airspace efficiencies.
    To also help address the privacy concerns of aircraft owners, this 
committee included a key provision, section 803, in the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024. The act required the FAA administrator to 
establish, no later than 2 years after enactment, a procedure for a 
private aircraft owner or operator to withhold from broad dissemination 
or display by the FAA, the registration number and other similar 
identifiable data such as personally identifiable information of the 
aircraft owner or operator.
    In response to section 803, the FAA announced this past March that 
the Civil Aviation Registry Electronic Services (CARES) system now 
allows aircraft owners to voluntarily request that their name and 
contact information be withheld from public access. This is a good step 
forward and we applaud the Committee for including this provision in 
the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 and the FAA's prompt action.
                      Pricing and Fee Transparency
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 requires the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) to conduct a study on the efforts of Fixed 
Based Operators (FBOs) to meet their voluntary commitment to improve 
the online transparency of prices and fees for all aircraft. AOPA has 
routinely heard from pilots across the country who are frustrated when 
they are levied with unexpected fees or are required to submit their N 
number in order to find out what they will be charged.
    Most airports and FBOs across the country provide services to 
pilots at a fair and reasonable price. But for years, we have received 
complaints nearly every day from pilots being charged with egregious 
fee pricing.
    The types of fees charged to pilots by some FBOs may include tie-
down fees, overnight parking fees, facility fees, infrastructure fees, 
access fees, security fees, handling fees, habitat fees, and special 
event fees. Some of these fees may be waived with the purchase of fuel 
but pilots are simply asking for fair and reasonable fees and prices, 
in conformance with FAA grant assurance requirements.
    AOPA led a voluntary industry campaign known as ``Know Before You 
Go'' to encourage FBOs to make their fees publicly available and while 
a vast majority of FBOs now openly disclose their pricing, many still 
do not.
    We are hopeful the GAO will reach out to AOPA as it develops its 
report, as required by the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, to access 
industry compliance with this voluntary program. The report is due to 
Congress later this year.
    In 2024, Signature Aviation, the largest FBO chain in the United 
States with more than 130 locations and owned by a private equity firm, 
took a positive step forward in responding to AOPA's call for fair and 
reasonable fees by lowering and standardizing its handling fees for 
piston aircraft at nearly all its locations. We applaud this effort and 
hope to see other large chain FBOs develop similar fair and reasonable 
pricing models for all non-commercial operators, regardless of aircraft 
type.
    As you know, during last year's FAA Reauthorization process, AOPA 
was joined by nearly six hundred aviation organizations across the 
country in calling for fair and reasonable FBO fees in conformance with 
current FAA requirements. Unfortunately, this bipartisan commonsense 
amendment, offered by Representative Jay Obernolte (R-CA) and 
Representative Matt Cartwright (D-PA), was tabled in the Rules 
Committee.
    We understand airports have financial needs, but we also believe 
they should be held accountable to FAA grant assurances that require 
any fees collected, either by an airport or a FBO, to be fair and 
reasonable.
                         Expansion of BasicMed
    AOPA has and continues to advocate tirelessly for medical reform. 
We are pleased the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 includes the 
expansion of BasicMed (section 828). The law Increased the maximum 
certified takeoff weight of a covered aircraft to 12,500 pounds (up 
from 6,000 pounds), increased the number of allowable passengers in a 
covered aircraft to six (up from five), and increased the allowable 
number of seats in a covered aircraft to seven (up from six). Since the 
program's inception in 2017, more than 90,000 pilots have qualified to 
safely fly with BasicMed privileges. The FAA's final rule implementing 
the expansion of BasicMed went into effect on November 18, 2024.
    It is important to point out that in its congressionally mandated 
reports, the FAA concluded BasicMed has no statistically significant 
impact on safety when comparing pilots flying under BasicMed to those 
with a third-class medical certificate.
    Interestingly enough, many countries, large and small, have medical 
standards that, similar to BasicMed, allow licensed medical physician 
to conduct a physical exam on private pilots. Moreover, Mexico, The 
Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, American 
Samoa, Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Federated States 
of Micronesia, Guam, Republic of the Marshall Islands, and the Republic 
of Palau all authorize private pilots to fly with BasicMed privileges. 
AOPA continues to work to expand acceptance of BasicMed to Canada and 
appreciates the Committees inclusion of language in the FAA 
Reauthorization encouraging the FAA to pursue this issue with Canada.
    We also appreciate the Committee including a provision requiring 
the FAA to stand up an Aviation Medical Working Group to develop 
recommendations intended to modernize the agency's medical processes 
and systems for pilots. This is an area that needs significant 
attention, especially the need to address extensive delays many pilots 
are experiencing with their medical applications. I am pleased, 
however, to report that the FAA has stood up this Working Group, as 
outlined in the FAA Reauthorization, and I commend the leadership of 
Federal Air Surgeon, Susan Northrup, for tackling this issue head on.
           Expiration Date on a Flight Instructor Certificate
    Another provision that was fully supported by AOPA is the 
expiration date on a flight instructor certificate. The FAA 
Administrator was directed to issue a final rule for the rulemaking 
activity titled `Removal of the Expiration Date on a Flight Instructor 
Certificate' no later than 18 months after enactment. The final rule 
went into effect on December 01, 2024, removing the expiration date 
from flight instructor certificates, while maintaining recurrency and 
recent experience requirements.
             Issuance of Letters of Authorization to Airmen
    As a result of section 806 of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, 
championed by Chairman Graves, the FAA has updated its guidance on 
authorizations to fly piston warbird airplanes by giving certain 
experienced pilots an easier path to add type-specific privileges. This 
is a positive step for this historical and highly active segment of 
General Aviation.
                Eliminate Aircraft Registration Backlog
    In recent years, the FAA's aircraft registration system caused 
significant delays with a chronic backlog of aircraft registration 
hitting a peak of 190 days in 2022. We appreciate the leadership of 
this Committee by including language in the FAA Reauthorization Act 
requiring the FAA to take necessary actions to reduce the aircraft 
registration backlog at the Civil Aviation Registry. The FAA recently 
testified that it has addressed the backlog and is now processing 
applications within an average of ten business days or less.
                   Unleaded Fuel and EAGLE Initiative
    As you know, the FAA and industry stakeholders representing every 
corner of aviation have a vested interest in the safe transition to 
unleaded fuel for general aviation aircraft. Working together through 
the FAA and industry Eliminate Aviation Gasoline Lead Emissions (EAGLE) 
initiative, our goal is to remove lead from all aviation fuel no later 
than December 31, 2030.
    However, until there is a viable unleaded fuel available fleet 
wide, it is imperative that 100LL (low lead) fuel remain available. We 
appreciate the leadership of this Committee for including a provision 
in the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 that requires airports that 
offered 100LL aviation gasoline for sale in 2022 to continue offering 
the sale of 100LL until 2030 or the date on which the FAA certifies an 
unleaded aviation gasoline alternative is available for purchase or use 
by all GA aircraft operators.
      Modernization of Special Airworthiness Certificates (MOSAIC)
    The expansion of light sport aircraft and sport pilot privileges 
has been a top priority for AOPA and the general aviation community. 
The FAA's Modernization of Special Airworthiness Certificates (MOSAIC) 
initiative was introduced in July 2023, and the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024 requires the FAA to issue a final rule for MOSAIC, no later 
than 2 years after enactment. The FAA is currently reviewing more than 
1,300 comments and is expected to issue a final rule in mid-2025, which 
if issued in July would meet the 2-year reauthorization requirement. We 
are very encouraged and supportive of this effort.
            Development of Portable Low-Cost Voluntary ADS-B
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 also requires the FAA 
Administrator to prepare a report no later than 2 years after enactment 
on the development of a suitable position reporting system for 
voluntary use in covered airspace to facilitate traffic awareness and 
solicit advice from industry groups including pilots and aircraft 
owners.
    We are aware the FAA is currently evaluating some electronic 
conspicuity (EC) devices (low-power ADS-B Out), and we are expecting a 
decision this year as to whether they and the FCC will approve of their 
use in the US.
                               Conclusion
    As we look to the future, the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 sets 
us on the right path to improve the safety and efficiency of our 
national airspace system. This historic legislation, with the first 
ever title dedicated to General Aviation, will benefit aircraft owners 
and pilots for years to come.
    We appreciate the leadership of this Committee, FAA Acting 
Administrator Chris Rocheleau, and those at the FAA that have had a 
hand in implementing many of these important provisions in a timely 
manner.
    I would like to thank the Subcommittee again for holding this 
important hearing and providing me with the opportunity to share AOPA's 
perspective on the status and implementation of the FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024.

    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Mr. Pleasance.
    With that, Mr. Bolen, you are recognized for 5--well, 
correction: I think Tracey Mann. Tracey would like to introduce 
our next witness.
    Mr. Mann. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I am honored to introduce our next witness, Mr. Ed Bolen.
    Ed is the president and CEO of the National Business 
Aviation Association, a position he has held since 2004, and is 
also from my hometown of Salina, Kansas, and a graduate of 
University of Kansas.
    Through his role at NBAA, Ed represents more than 11,000 
aviation companies and professionals who rely on general 
aviation aircraft, advocating for the advancement of new 
technologies and products, enhancing safety, and recruiting a 
skilled workforce, all to strengthen the future of American 
aviation.
    Ed is also a past president and CEO of GAMA, as well.
    So, thanks to his extensive knowledge and experience during 
his distinguished career, and I appreciate him being willing to 
share with us here this morning.
    Thanks for being here, Ed.

  TESTIMONY OF EDWARD M. BOLEN, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
        OFFICER, NATIONAL BUSINESS AVIATION ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Bolen. Well, thank you for that kind introduction.
    Like Congressman Mann, I am enormously proud to be a son of 
Kansas and to have an opportunity to represent a great American 
industry as we work together to do something really important 
for this country.
    Mr. Chairman, I want to begin by acknowledging a couple 
things have been mentioned about safety and about the accident 
on January 29th. And certainly that galvanizes us, helps us 
understand the importance and the urgency of the work that we 
are doing today.
    I think when you discussed last year's bill, you mentioned 
that it was large and that it was comprehensive. It was also 
very forward-leaning. Parts of the bill, including the general 
aviation title, the efforts to foster emerging technologies, 
the attention to the medical records and encouraging pilots to 
get help, the foundation laid on NOTAMs, and all of the efforts 
on workforce are really critical.
    And I think now that that bill is the law of the land, we 
have a clear pathway on where we go from here.
    First, it is critical that we implement that bill. And I 
commend you for the hearing that was held on the 1-year 
anniversary and continuing those hearings today.
    I think what we are seeing is, there are parts of that bill 
that are being moved out on and moved out quickly. We are 
enormously pleased, for example, that the SFAR related to 
advanced air mobility and the pilot training has been done, and 
we are looking forward to those aircraft being certified soon. 
And BVLOS was mentioned; we are anticipating action on that. So 
I think a lot of good work is being done.
    I think all of us need to commit to making sure that great 
bill is implemented. So, that is step number one.
    Step number two is, we need to move forward on the plan 
that was laid out on May 8 by the Secretary and by the FAA 
Administrator. I think what we recognize is that what was being 
proposed, what is on the table, is something that is unique in 
its scope, in its specificity, and its accountability, and, 
importantly, its timelines.
    The proposal focuses on modernizing by investing in people, 
facilities, and equipment. And, to that end, we have the 
Secretary who has called for 14,000 air traffic controllers--
highly skilled, highly motivated--and we see steps being taken 
to make that a reality. That is a critical issue.
    With regard to facilities, he has laid out investments that 
need to be made: 6 air traffic control centers, deployment of 
15 TRACONs, 15 new towers. He has made it clear that we want to 
increase connectivity with broadband, with cellular, with 
satellite. And he has made sure that we are focused on bringing 
in the latest generation of radios and radars. And, in fact, 
yesterday, I saw that he announced bringing in industry for a 
conversation on how we can get this done.
    I think it is really important to underscore that the 
entire industry is united in this proposal under the Modern 
Skies banner. I think this is probably as united as our 
community has been for an investment in our air transportation 
system since the creation of the Airport and Airway Trust Fund 
in 1970.
    I think, importantly, the community is united on getting 
this done and not being distracted with debates that look to 
others, including Canada with their overhyped and 
underperforming models. I think what we see is the opportunity 
for American innovation and American ingenuity to lead the way.
    And I can't imagine a more fitting way to honor the legacy 
of the families and the victims of the 29th of January accident 
than having us make sure that the United States continues to 
have the largest, the safest, the most diverse mix of aircraft 
and operations anywhere in the world.
    We want to lead and continue to have the United States be 
the gold standard for all things aviation.
    [Mr. Bolen's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Edward M. Bolen, President and Chief Executive 
            Officer, National Business Aviation Association
    Chairman Nehls, Ranking Member Cohen, and members of the 
Subcommittee on Aviation, thank you for holding this hearing to address 
aviation safety and the bipartisan 2024 FAA Reauthorization bill. On 
behalf of the National Business Aviation Association's (NBAA's) 11,000-
member companies, I am honored to testify at this hearing.
    I would like to start by acknowledging the heartbreaking accident 
that took place in the shadow of our nation's Capital on January 29th. 
As members of the aviation community we feel and mourn the loss of 
every crewmember and every passenger. Our hearts go out to the victims 
and their families. Every incident and accident is a solemn reminder 
that our work to improve safety in the national airspace system (NAS) 
is not done.
    A year ago, Congress, led by this Committee, laid the foundation 
for a safer, more efficient NAS with a comprehensive, bipartisan five-
year FAA Reauthorization bill that:
     Included the first ever General Aviation (GA) Title;
     Enhances flight security;
     Ushers in the next generation of aircraft;
      Modernizes medical standards, allowing crewmembers to get 
the help they need;
     Upgrades the NOTAM system; and
     Develops the future workforce.

    With the Reauthorization bill now the law of the land, the path 
forward is clear.
    One, we must ensure the implementation of the bill. The good news 
is that, with the strong oversight of this Committee, that is beginning 
to happen. For example, the FAA has already published the rules for 
operating powered-lift air taxis and evaluated check pilot 
requirements.
    Two, we urgently need to make a massive investment in our national 
airspace system--in people, facilities, and equipment.
    On May 8th, Secretary Duffy unveiled the Administration's Air 
Traffic Control (ATC) Modernization Plan. It is a plan that is unique 
from any before it--in its scope, specificity, accountability, and the 
fact that it establishes a clear deadline. By the end of 2028, the plan 
calls for an investment in people that will provide the United States 
with over 14,000 well-trained and highly skilled air traffic 
controllers. The plan calls for us to invest in facilities by building 
six new state-of-the-art air traffic control centers, and new radars, 
radios, and other equipment.
    The investment in people, facilities, and equipment that the 
Administration is proposing is a national imperative. The system is 
under stress. We are at a unique moment in time--one that calls us to 
honor the legacy of those we've lost and to meet the challenges with 
American innovation, ingenuity and decisive action.
    The entirety of the aviation industry, including airlines, general 
aviation, airports, and labor has come together, through the Modern 
Skies Coalition, in support of the ATC modernization plan. Not since 
the establishment of the Airport & Airway Trust Fund in 1970 has the 
entire aviation industry been this united and focused in its support 
for major investment in our air transportation system.
    Importantly, the Coalition has stated that it opposes any effort 
that would distract from the Administration's plan. That includes any 
effort to model the U.S. system on the type of overhyped and 
dramatically underperforming models in Canada and the United Kingdom.
    We are world leaders in every aspect of aviation. We have the 
opportunity to ensure that is true for decades to come.
                          GA Action on Safety
    These recent events serve as a stark reminder of the critically 
important role of safety. The business aviation industry holds safety 
as a core value guiding our actions every day and every flight. Despite 
the perception based on recent high-profile events, fatal accidents are 
trending down. Preliminary data indicates there were fewer fatal 
accidents in the first part of 2025 than 2024. This continues a longer 
trend. Over the past 30 years, the GA fatal accident rate fell by 60%. 
Still, NBAA and the general aviation community are committed to further 
reducing the fatal accident rate. The General Aviation Joint Safety 
Committee set a goal in 2019 to reduce the fatal accident rate by an 
additional 10%. The community remains on pace to exceed that safety 
goal.
    The business aviation community works hard not only to be safe, but 
to be perceived as safe. In response to incidents and accidents this 
year, the general aviation community launched a National Pause for 
General Aviation Safety to reflect on safety and commit to working 
together towards further improvements.
    NBAA and others have teamed up to make tools and resources 
available. For instance, the Aviation Safety Information Analysis and 
Sharing (ASIAS) program allows the entire aviation community to pool 
data for beneficial safety improvements. As data analysis tools become 
more accessible, we expect this tool to become even more important. 
NBAA is also supporting increased use of data sharing to continually 
refine safety training; recommitment to a just-culture framework for 
accident assessment; and continued adoption and implementation of 
safety management systems (SMS).
                 Modernizing ATC: A National Imperative
    The ATC system is in urgent need of an infrastructure overhaul and 
staffing support. In addition to the implementation of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024, Congress and the administration can help 
improve the safety and efficiency of the NAS by advancing DOT's ATC 
modernization plan.
    Modernizing America's ATC infrastructure is essential for enabling 
the numerous advantages of business aviation in the United States. We 
thank you for committing $12.5 billion as a downpayment towards 
infrastructure improvements and air traffic controller hiring. It will 
enable the modernization of critical infrastructure such as air traffic 
control towers, terminal approach facilities and centers, radar and 
ground stations, telecommunications hardware, and automation software. 
It will help retain and recruit controllers, and accelerate training 
for new recruits--strengthening a workforce that is stretched thin. 
However, the system needs $18.5 billion in additional funding over the 
next three years, to make these urgent capital improvements and realize 
the benefits of modern technology or we will repeat the failures of the 
past. Minor investments over multiple decades led to a system that 
required the ``dumbing down'' of new technology to integrate into old 
legacy systems, never allowing the NAS to enjoy the full benefit of 
cutting edge tools and equipment.
    NBAA and the Modern Skies Coalition are unified in our support for 
this historic funding infusion. However, the Coalition is aligned 
against privatizing the air traffic control system. Privatized foreign 
air traffic control systems held up as models of modernization suffer 
from controller shortages, massive system delays, technology 
breakdowns, and repeated calls for transparency and leadership. Most 
alarmingly, the International Civil Aviation Organization recently 
found that Canada's safety oversight of Nav Canada has fallen 
dramatically over the past twenty years, assigning a ``C'' grade to the 
agency. Instead, we are committed to investing in the safety and 
efficiency of the nation's air transportation system.
    These investments ensure the FAA has the tools, facilities, 
workforce and equipment it needs to safely manage 50,000 flights daily, 
transporting more than 2.9 million passengers across 29 million square 
miles of airspace.
    It will enable business aviation to continue transporting people 
and cargo, conducting air medical flights for organs and patients, 
providing natural disaster response and helping businesses be more 
competitive--connecting communities in every state and nearly every 
congressional district, especially those with little or no airline 
service. Business aviation bolsters our national economy with 1.3 
million American jobs and $340 billion in economic output.
            Prioritizing FAA Reauthorization Implementation
    As important as ATC modernization is the implementation of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024, which recognizes the importance of the 
General Aviation sector and the safe integration of new entrants, it 
also ensures that America will continue to lead the world in aviation 
safety, security, sustainability, innovation, workforce development and 
investment in airports.
                    Overdue Overhaul of NOTAM System
    The FAA is in the midst of making long-needed improvements to the 
Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) system. When the nation's air traffic came to 
a halt for the first time since 9/11, it became clear we could not wait 
to overhaul the FAA's primary tool for notifying pilots and flight 
planners about hazards en route or at their destination. The FAA 
expects to deploy the new version of this critical system by September 
2025. The welcome upgrade will ensure reliability and better 
information for flight crews, resulting in higher levels of safety, and 
there are valuable lessons to be learned in the context of ATC 
modernization, from the agile acquisition process that was used to 
implement the new system.
                Strengthening Flight Security--Sec. 803
    In the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024, Congress recognized the 
importance of flight security by directing the FAA to restrict the 
publication of personally identifying information that could compromise 
security. The FAA announced in March an option to not disclose personal 
security information on the aircraft registry. This action mitigates 
threats to security, while maintaining the ability to perform necessary 
functions, such as maintenance, safety checks, and regulatory 
compliance. The business aviation community is engaging in public 
comment to ensure the enactment of this provision avoids any unintended 
consequences, such as restricting access to important information 
necessary to conduct aircraft transactions and meet other regulatory 
requirements.
Maintain U.S. Leadership in Advanced Air Mobility--Title IX, Subtitle B
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 includes the first-ever 
Advanced Air Mobility (AAM) Subtitle. This accomplishment recognizes 
the impact of new entrants. As the U.S. competes to lead the world in 
the era of air taxis, decisive and ambitious action is needed by the 
FAA, and this bill provides the foundation to do so.
    It is crucial to our nation's ability to maintain global 
competitiveness and leadership in aerospace that innovation be safely 
and efficiently brought to market in the U.S. The FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024 expressed Congress's desire for the United States to 
position itself as a global leader in AAM, and directed the FAA to work 
with manufacturers, prospective operators, and other relevant 
stakeholders to ensure the safe, expeditious rollout of these aircraft. 
The FAA must dedicate appropriate staffing to meet this pressing need. 
Autonomous AAM operations are already happening in China. To maintain 
our edge, the industry needs established certification standards and 
the FAA must meet Congress's mandate to work transparently with 
industry and stick to certification timelines. Only with diligence, 
transparency, and collaboration will this technology be made in the 
USA.
Center for Advanced Aviation Technologies--Sec. 961
    Senator Cruz recently announced the FAA's new Center for Advanced 
Aviation Technologies will have a home in Texas. The center of 
excellence will support the testing and advancement of new and emerging 
aviation technologies, including autonomous AAM. The support has been 
welcomed by the innovative new entrants coming to our airspace. Yet, 
the FAA must accompany the center of excellence with the required 
demonstration zones and testing corridors, which will allow them to 
validate technologies and air traffic requirements, or risk falling 
behind foreign competition.
FAA Research and Development--Sec. 1044
    The Reauthorization bill required the FAA to submit a report by 
February 2025 on the FAA's actions and progress using research and 
development to inform FAA certification guidance and regulations for 
autonomous flight and remotely piloted operations beyond visual line of 
sight (BVLOS). To fully unlock the potential of these new technologies 
and keep pace with foreign regulators, we need an update on the status 
of this report and assurance from the FAA that they are prioritizing 
the integration of autonomous and BVLOS operations.
Powered Lift Special Federal Aviation Regulation--Sec. 955
    The FAA made significant progress in ushering in the next 
generation of aircraft in October 2024, when they published the Powered 
Lift Special Federal Aviation Regulation (SFAR) in accordance with 
Section 955 of the Reauthorization at NBAA's Business Aviation 
Convention and Exhibition. The SFAR included standards for pilot 
qualifications, established energy reserve requirements, and provided a 
mechanism for future performance-based rules. While creating the first 
new aircraft category in two generations is a welcome step, the FAA 
must continue to ensure requirements match reality as these aircraft 
gain experience in the years to come.
Autonomous Operations
    America has long been the world leader in aviation and innovation. 
However, our competitive edge is at risk. Other countries are flying 
powered lift vehicles, and China is conducting autonomous operations. 
In addition to establishing a national airspace lab like the Center for 
Advanced Aviation Technologies, the FAA must take steps to ensure 
autonomous operations will seamlessly integrate into the airspace. Only 
with appropriate staffing and clear certification guidelines will the 
FAA facilitate timely entry into service of this historic new aircraft 
type.
    These provisions, with Congress's ongoing oversight and leadership, 
ensure that America remains the world leader in innovation and 
aerospace.
            Facilitate Scalable SMS Implementation--Sec. 308
    The FAA's Part 5 SMS regulation provides a structured framework for 
operators of all sizes to manage safety risks systematically and 
effectively. The updated FAA Part 5 SMS regulations expand the 
requirement for implementing an SMS to more organizations, including 
Part 91.147 air tour operators and Part 135 on-demand, air charter 
operators. NBAA and the FAA provide numerous resources to guide 
operators through the SMS implementation process, aiding compliance 
with national and international standards in the next two years.
    It is imperative that every SMS policy reiterate the scalable 
nature of SMS. The rule itself is high-level, requiring operators to 
address the four pillars of SMS: safety policy, safety risk management, 
safety assurance, and safety promotion. But, the devil is in the 
details. Alongside the Part 5 regulations, the FAA also updated its 
advisory circular, inspector guidance, and safety assurance system. 
Each of these documents must reinforce scalability.
    The complexity of policies safety inspectors deem acceptable will 
drive the burden of this regulation. What works for one operation may 
not be appropriate for another. Policies that work for a major airline 
may not be appropriate for a charter operator with a single aircraft 
and a single Pilot in Command. Regulators may have difficulty 
understanding what a small--or very small--organization is capable of 
doing, and how to adjust and adapt the framework so that it can work 
for everybody
    For example, some businesses elect to certificate their flight 
department under part 135, opting for the oversight and higher safety 
standards. When, prior to the mandatory rule, some of these 
certificated business flight departments opted to seek FAA approval of 
voluntary SMS, some FAA inspectors had difficulty understanding that 
these organizations were different from 121 air carriers. The 
inspectors balked at scaled policies and unique reporting structures. 
It took months to sort out. Rather than focus on implementing the 
safety program, these flight departments were forced to divert 
resources to fight unclear, unscaled policies.
    Getting bogged down in bureaucratic policies will detract from the 
safety-enhancing capability SMS can provide to flight operations. 
Congress must continue to oversee the FAA's implementation of scalable 
SMS requirements.
           Embrace Modern Medical Protocols--Sec. 411 and 413
    Medical processes and understanding continuously undergo review and 
evaluation. They evolve with modern science. However, the FAA's 
protocols and standards remain woefully outdated and in need of reform. 
Fortunately, the Reauthorization bill directed the FAA to begin 
modernizing.
    The medical modernization efforts are already underway. The FAA 
concluded a pilot mental health rulemaking committee last year with 
leadership from NBAA. And, this spring, the FAA kicked off two working 
groups that will support reviewing medical processes, policies and 
procedures, ensuring timely and efficient certification of airmen. The 
modernization effort will result in updates to the Guide for Aviation 
Medical Examiners. The updates will in turn provide better insight for 
pilots into what medical examiners are looking for and what might cost 
the pilot his or her medical.
    The medical modernization effort and sufficient staffing of the 
office remain critical to safety. Pilots and others holding FAA medical 
certificates must be confident in the medical certification process to 
feel comfortable seeking the help and treatment they need. An outdated 
system risks pilots flying with undiagnosed or untreated maladies. An 
understaffed medical office means pilots needlessly wait for paperwork 
to be reviewed. A modern, adequately staffed medical certificate 
program can provide pilots confidence that they will be able to return 
to the cockpit after visiting a doctor.
    Withholding a pilot's medical certificate for mental health or 
other issues means not only that the pilot cannot pursue a livelihood, 
it means they cannot feed their families. When a pilot visits a doctor 
today, the pilot does not know if or when he or she will be able to 
return to flying. The FAA's head medical professional, Dr. Susan 
Northrop, has often said that if we can track a delivery pizza order, 
we should be able to track something so much more important--the review 
and approval of medical certificates. Congress should continue to 
monitor the development of this secure medical certification portal and 
tracker, which will provide insight on if and when pilots can return to 
their profession.
             Harmonize Supplemental Oxygen Rules--Sec. 834
    It remains critical that the FAA continue to modernize safety 
regulations, including regulations related to supplemental oxygen. Sec. 
834 directs the FAA to issue a notice of proposed rulemaking that would 
harmonize part 135 supplemental oxygen requirements with the rules for 
part 121. Harmonization will enhance communication, decrease the 
chances of spreading contagions, reduce fatigue, and reflect the 
reliability of modern aircraft.
   Embrace Digitization and Bring FAA into the 21st Century--Sec. 220
    The FAA must continue to modernize. Congress required the FAA to 
bring three paper based certification processes into the digital era. 
Within six months of the bill, the FAA must identify three 
certification processes that could be replaced with internet-based data 
management processes that allow applicants and the FAA to track 
progress. Outdated, bureaucratic processes remain a barrier to 
aerospace innovation and efficient aviation operations. The FAA must 
begin stepping into the modern era by digitizing analog processes to 
reduce backlogs and ensure American aviators and American businesses 
keep up with foreign competitors.
               Elevate the Office of Rulemaking--Sec. 202
    Congress required the FAA to elevate the agency's rulemaking 
function by establishing an Assistant Administrator for Rulemaking and 
Regulatory Improvement. The role is critical for improving safety; 
establishing priorities aligned with the Administration; reviewing 
burdensome and inefficient or outdated rules; coordinating with other 
Federal entities; and promulgating regulatory updates that are in the 
best interest of the public. The FAA repeatedly claims they only have 
the capacity to pass a handful of rules each year, so it is imperative 
that a leader ensures the process is efficient and well prioritized.
               Bolster the Aerospace Workforce--Title IV
    I commend Congress for its bipartisan collaboration with NBAA and 
others to include workforce-focused provisions in the FAA 
Reauthorization Act of 2024. Investing in a highly trained and 
dedicated workforce is absolutely paramount not just for industry, but 
for the citizens, companies and communities that depend on it. By 
dedicating all of Title IV to workforce development, Congress 
recognized the importance of addressing the aerospace workforce. This 
legislation addresses and removes barriers for individuals pursuing 
careers in aviation, broadens the industry's workforce pipeline, and 
improves training standards.
    Analysts predict that hundreds of thousands of aviation 
professionals with a diversity of skill sets will be needed in the 
coming decades. However, barriers to growing the needed workforce 
include financial obstacles, cultural barriers, and limited access to 
information. The Youth Access to American Jobs in Aviation Task Force, 
Bessie Coleman Women in Aviation Advisory Committee, and national 
strategic plan for aviation workforce development underscore the 
importance of recruiting, retaining and engaging aviation talent. These 
initiatives will energize the work needed to remove existing barriers 
and ensure a large, qualified and diverse cohort of professionals is 
equipped to lead the industry into the future.
                           Meeting the Moment
    America has the safest, largest, most diverse, and most efficient 
aviation system in the world. Yet, the system is under stress, which 
increases risk and decreases efficiency. We must take action. Last 
year, Congress passed comprehensive, bipartisan legislation that would 
repair historic systems, reinforce current programs, and pave the way 
for the future. We stand ready to help the Congress and the 
Administration take additional steps to make an urgent investment in 
ATC modernization.
    Thank you to the subcommittee for holding this hearing. NBAA looks 
forward to working alongside Congress and the FAA to maintain and 
improve safety in air transportation and ensure the U.S. remains the 
global leader in aviation.

    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Mr. Bolen.
    Mr. Robbins, you are recognized.

  TESTIMONY OF MICHAEL ROBBINS, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
OFFICER, ASSOCIATION FOR UNCREWED VEHICLE SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL

    Mr. Robbins. Thank you, Chairman Nehls, Ranking Member 
Cohen, and distinguished members of the committee.
    I am Michael Robbins. I am the president and CEO of AUVSI. 
We are the world's largest trade association representing the 
uncrewed systems, robotics, and autonomy industry. And I am 
delighted to be here with you today representing our members in 
the UAS, or drone, and advanced air mobility industries.
    It is a particularly significant week for our industry, 
particularly the drone side, as we expect that the Trump 
administration will release a series of Executive orders on the 
drone industry this week, reflecting the growing national 
priority placed on uncrewed systems.
    And while we await the official details, AUVSI has been 
working closely with the administration, engaged throughout 
this process, and stands ready to work with both the White 
House and Congress to accelerate safe integration, enhance 
security, and strengthen U.S. leadership.
    AUVSI, like our colleagues, commends this committee's 
leadership in crafting and passing the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024, which obviously represents a strong, bipartisan 
commitment to strengthening safety, fast-tracking innovation, 
and preserving U.S. leadership in global aviation.
    And our industry, in particular, welcomed the clarity and 
direction the law provided in specific titles which will guide 
the safe and scalable integration of drones and AAM 
technologies into the national airspace, including mandating 
performance-based rulemaking and expanding certification 
pathways.
    But, as mentioned, legislation is only the beginning. The 
promise of this reauthorization and its impact on jobs and 
public safety, infrastructure, and, importantly, global 
leadership and competitiveness depends entirely on how well and 
how quickly the law is implemented.
    Today, we are going to highlight where the FAA is making 
progress, where it is falling behind, and how this committee's 
continued oversight is critical to meeting the full potential 
of the law.
    So, a few key points.
    First, we appreciate the FAA's recent momentum in approving 
more waivers and exemptions for beyond visual line of sight, or 
BVLOS, operations. These approvals are indeed driving real-
world value in public safety, infrastructure inspection, 
agriculture, disaster response, and more.
    However, these case-by-case waivers are not a substitute 
for a comprehensive rule, and they do not allow the industry to 
scale. This delays investment, operational planning, and public 
benefit.
    As Chairman Nehls mentioned, section 930 of the 
reauthorization law set firm deadlines for the long-awaited 
part 108 BVLOS rule. The first of those deadlines has been 
missed, and it has been missed, as of today, by 261 days. And, 
yep, we are counting, because every day matters to our 
industry.
    We got very close last year after a valiant effort by the 
FAA to move the rule forward, but, ultimately, bureaucracy won. 
Today, due to the leadership of Secretary Duffy and 
Administrator Rocheleau, the draft rule is back at the White 
House for the interagency review, and we have urged the 
immediate release of the draft.
    And, again, it is a draft. We have repeatedly reminded the 
regulators that this is only a step in the process and it is by 
no means the end of the rulemaking. And, accordingly, perfect 
should not be the enemy of the good for a draft.
    We urge the administration to maintain momentum and deliver 
a final rule as close as possible to the original statutory 
deadline.
    And that same urgency applies to section 2209 of the 2016 
FAA Extension Act, reaffirmed in section 929 of the 2024 
reauthorization, directing the FAA to establish a process for 
critical infrastructure operators to petition for restrictions 
on drone flights near sensitive sites. Nearly a decade later, 
that process still doesn't exist.
    Beyond rulemaking, the FAA must also move quickly to 
implement section 906, which directs the agency to study and 
adopt electronic conspicuity solutions.
    In an increasingly complex airspace, especially at lower 
altitudes, situational awareness is vital. As my colleague at 
AOPA mentioned, ADS-B coverage is limited and not mandated in 
all airspace, and many types of aircraft lack broadcast 
capability.
    But electronic conspicuity technologies available in the 
marketplace today and used elsewhere in the world can help 
scale and close that gap, enhancing safety and driving us 
towards a zero-collision airspace. This technology enables 
mutual awareness between all aircraft, protecting safety and 
privacy, while enhancing operational flexibility. And the FAA 
should move swiftly to approve and promote these technologies.
    We would also like to thank this committee, as well as 
Secretary Duffy and Administrator Rocheleau, for moving boldly 
with plans to upgrade our aging air traffic control system. 
AUVSI is also a proud member of the Modern Skies Coalition, and 
we urge that modernization investments include low-altitude 
airspace awareness and digital infrastructure investments to 
ensure the future national airspace can safely accommodate both 
crewed and autonomous operations at scale.
    Thank you for your leadership and for holding this 
important oversight hearing. The FAA Reauthorization Act offers 
a bold roadmap for the future of aviation. Now it is time to 
execute.
    Thank you. I look forward to your questions.
    [Mr. Robbins' prepared statement follows:]

                                 
 Prepared Statement of Michael Robbins, President and Chief Executive 
    Officer, Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International
                              Introduction
    Thank you, Subcommittee Chairman Nehls, Subcommittee Ranking Member 
Cohen, Full Committee Chairman Graves, Full Committee Ranking Member 
Larsen, and distinguished members of the Committee and Subcommittee for 
the opportunity to testify before this important hearing.
    My name is Michael Robbins, and I am the President & CEO of the 
Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International (AUVSI), the 
world's largest industry association representing the uncrewed systems, 
robotics, and autonomy industry. Our members create systems that 
operate in the air, on the ground, and in the water across the civil, 
commercial, and defense domains. Today, I am honored to appear before 
the Aviation Subcommittee representing our members in the Uncrewed 
Aircraft Systems (UAS or drones) and Advanced Air Mobility (AAM) 
industries, as well as the UAS Detection & Mitigation industry, and 
enabling and supporting technologies of these industries. On behalf of 
AUVSI, thank you for the opportunity to testify on the progress and 
implementation of the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
Reauthorization Act of 2024 (P.L. 118-63) from the stakeholder 
perspective. We also commend this Committee, and your colleagues on the 
Senate Commerce, Science, and Transportation Committee, for recently 
holding hearings to receive testimony from government witnesses on the 
progress and implementation of P.L. 118-63.
    We are at a pivotal moment in aviation history, with drones and AAM 
aircraft offering the potential to unlock significant benefits in both 
safety and technological leadership. With those benefits will come 
tremendous economic activity and workforce opportunities. Drones offer 
a safe, cost-effective solution for critical operations including 
public safety, precision agriculture, utilities maintenance, 
infrastructure inspections, medical and package delivery, and much 
more. AAM, which includes both regional and urban passenger and cargo 
carrying applications, is revolutionizing propulsion systems, battery 
technology, and flight controls, unlocking new opportunities in both 
metropolitan and rural areas not served by traditional aviation, and 
enhancing workforce productivity and safety. Companies are opening 
high-rate production facilities and creating thousands of high-quality 
manufacturing jobs at an increasing rate.
    P.L. 118-63 was a landmark achievement for aviation policy and is 
helping to drive the drone and AAM industry forward. The law reflects a 
strong, bipartisan commitment to safety, innovation, and U.S. 
leadership in the rapidly evolving domains of drones and AAM. AUVSI is 
deeply grateful to Members of this Committee and your staff for your 
sustained leadership in crafting and passing this forward-looking 
legislation. Now, swift implementation of this legislation is critical 
to ensuring the meaningful integration of safe, secure, and scalable 
uncrewed and advanced aviation technologies into American skies. We are 
therefore grateful that the Committee is holding this hearing to gather 
stakeholder perspectives on implementation, executing its chief mandate 
of overseeing the FAA and Department of Transportation (DOT).
    We are encouraged by the law's emphasis on risk-based, performance-
oriented regulatory principles. This approach is essential to enabling 
innovation without compromising safety. The inclusion of dozens of key 
provisions, particularly throughout Titles IX and X, ensures the FAA is 
directed to modernize its rulemaking authority, accelerate integration 
of emerging technologies, and invest in workforce development. AUVSI is 
closely monitoring all of these provisions, as these elements are 
critical to ensuring U.S. leadership in global aviation, and 
specifically in the drone and AAM industries, for decades to come.
    As we evaluate implementation to date, however, we remain concerned 
by slow progress in several key areas that are vital to the future of 
uncrewed and autonomous flight.
    Below are key P.L. 118-63 sections AUVSI urges the Aviation 
Subcommittee, and broader Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, 
and the FAA, to focus on as implementation continues:
    Section 930--Beyond Visual Line of Sight Operations (BVLOS) for 
                       Unmanned Aircraft Systems
    Directs the FAA to issue notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM) on 
BVLOS within four (4) months of enactment to establish a performance-
based regulatory pathway for UAS to operate BVLOS. Section 930 also 
directs the Administrator to issue a final rule within sixteen (16) 
months of the draft rule.
    The drone industry stands on the precipice of a new era. With the 
appropriate risk-based regulatory framework, the United States will 
lead the world in drone innovation, safety, and integration. Central to 
this opportunity is the timely issuance of an enabling rule for BVLOS 
operations, frequently referred to as Part 108. Studies project that 
drones will contribute billions to the U.S. economy over the next 
decade, enhance public safety, and create new, good-paying jobs. 
However, without the BVLOS rule in place, much of that potential 
remains unrealized.
    Industry delivered to the FAA the FAA-chartered UAS BVLOS Aviation 
Rulemaking Committee (ARC) report in March of 2022--thirty-nine (39) 
months ago--however, we do not yet have a draft rule from the FAA.\1\ 
AUVSI appreciates the oversight of Congress on the Part 108 rulemaking, 
specifically Section 930 of P.L. 118-63.
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    This oversight is key, as, unfortunately, the Congressional 
statutory deadline to issue a BVLOS NPRM within four months of 
enactment was missed. Pursuant to Section 930, that deadline was 
September 16, 2024, or two hundred and sixty-one (261) days ago. Yes, 
we are counting. Every single day matters. This delay is impacting the 
industry's ability to scale critical operations in public safety, 
disaster response, infrastructure inspection, agriculture, delivery, 
and other critical missions, and make informed business decisions.
    The NPRM as drafted by the FAA was sent to DOT for review in late 
July of 2024 in an attempt to meet the Congressional deadline of 
September 16, 2024. AUVSI applauds the efforts of the FAA to stick to 
the timeline to the greatest extent possible. Unfortunately, despite 
aggressive efforts by AUVSI to unlock the rule from DOT, there it 
remained until mid-November 2024, an unusually long timeline, 
especially for a draft rule. Once released from DOT, the NPRM began 
interagency review by the White House Office of Management and Budget 
(OMB) Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs (OIRA) last year. 
AUVSI, alongside our member companies and other industry stakeholders, 
held multiple engagements with OMB and OIRA urging its immediate 
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Agriculture Sector Companies; December 5, 2024 Meeting--Critical 
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    Unfortunately, the previous Administration did not release the 
draft before the end of their term, the change in Administration, and 
the temporary moratorium on new rulemakings that followed.
    Under the new Administration, and the leadership of acting FAA 
Administrator, Chris Rocheleau, and DOT Secretary, Sean Duffy, the NPRM 
was sent back to OIRA on May 13, 2025.\3\ AUVSI urges its immediate 
release and is once again meeting with OIRA staff and the interagency 
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    We have repeatedly reminded regulators that the NPRM represents 
only a step in the process and is by no means the end of the 
rulemaking. Accordingly, perfect should not be the enemy of the good in 
a draft, and instead, progress should continue to be made in the 
process allowing industry, government, and other stakeholders an 
opportunity to review the draft and offer feedback. Then, the FAA will 
have time to adjudicate the comments and edit the rule before the 
entire process of DOT, interagency, and OIRA review occurs again before 
publishing a final rule.
    Section 930 allows for sixteen (16) months between the NPRM and the 
final rule for adjudication of comments received and for the 
interagency process ahead of final issuance. That timeline is now also 
off track, however, as this timeline assumed a four-month timeline to 
the NPRM, which is now more than eight and a half (8.5) months off 
track.
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to maintain direct and regular 
oversight of the FAA, DOT, and the interagency to:
      Issue the Part 108 NPRM immediately.
      Maintain a tight timeline for NPRM comments with no 
extensions provided if requested.

    We also request Congress embolden the FAA to make every effort to 
stick to the statutory deadline in Section 930 for final rule issuance 
to the greatest extent possible and to maintain the same encouragement 
of DOT, the interagency, and OIRA, as we appreciate that the FAA does 
not have full control over the final rule's release once they have 
completed their work. AUVSI believes that with a tight NRPM comment 
deadline, the incorporation of artificial intelligence (AI) tools to 
help sort comments for adjudication, and a streamlined interagency OIRA 
process, a two hundred and forty (240) day timeline from NPRM to final 
rule is feasible and should be the goal. This would put the final rule 
close to meeting Congress' original statutory deadline set in Section 
930.
    The continued stagnation on Part 108 threatens to stall broader 
innovation and economic growth. Current BVLOS operations require 
costly, time-consuming, case-by-case FAA approvals and rulemaking that 
hinder scalability and investment. That said, for now, these waivers 
and exemptions are the only way forward until the final rule is 
published. Accordingly, to maintain momentum, the FAA must continue 
issuing waivers and exemptions under the current framework to allow 
risk- and performance-based BVLOS operations in the interim. This is 
essential to enable planning, investment, and operational growth.
    Positively, we have seen a dramatic increase in the rate and speed 
of these BVLOS waivers and exemptions for many types of operations, 
including infrastructure inspection, delivery, and public safety. This 
is a great example of FAA and DOT using their own flexibility to bring 
drone technology forward, which is having direct and tangible results 
in 2025. AUVSI and our members applaud the FAA for their great work in 
this area.
  Section 202--Assistant Administrator for Rulemaking and Regulatory 
                              Improvement
    Creates an Office of Rulemaking and Regulatory Improvement, led by 
an Assistant Administrator, to enhance accountability and transparency 
in the FAA's rulemaking process.
    Slow, opaque rulemaking has delayed critical UAS and AAM 
regulations, creating uncertainty and discouraging investment. 
Elevating the rulemaking function will help set clear priorities, track 
progress, and address systemic and bureaucratic bottlenecks within the 
FAA. Without regulatory agility, the U.S. risks falling behind in the 
race for aviation leadership, with countries like the People's Republic 
of China (PRC) moving aggressively to deploy and export UAS and AAM 
solutions.
    Next Steps: AUVSI strongly supports the creation of the Office of 
Rulemaking and Regulatory Improvement and urges the FAA to:
      Fully stand up the office with adequate resources and 
staffing.
      Appoint a qualified Assistant Administrator with a clear 
mandate to prioritize UAS and AAM rules.
      Publicly track timelines for rulemakings and stakeholder 
engagement.

    This reform is critical to restoring confidence in the FAA's 
ability to regulate at the speed of innovation.
      Sections 229 and 916--Advanced Aviation Industry Committees
    Section 229 of the FAA Reauthorization Act establishes a 
leadership-level steering committee to coordinate across the FAA's 
lines of business and develop a cohesive strategy for integrating 
advanced aviation technologies. This steering committee is required to 
be in place by early 2025, yet to date, there has been no public update 
on its structure, priorities, or membership.
    In parallel, Section 916 directs the FAA to form a new ``Unmanned 
and Autonomous Flight Advisory Committee,'' replacing the former 
Advanced Aviation Advisory Committee, which P.L. 118-63 directed the 
FAA to sunset, which happened in May 2024. This new advisory body is 
intended to serve as a formal mechanism for collaboration between the 
FAA and industry experts on policy and guidance for safe autonomous 
aircraft operations. Again, to date, there has been no public update on 
this new committee from the FAA. To ensure the two committees' 
effectiveness, we strongly recommend that the FAA engage with AUVSI and 
other industry stakeholders in advance to identify key issues and 
confirm that the group includes senior leaders with the authority to 
drive cross-agency alignment.
    Next Steps: We respectfully urge the Committee to confirm the FAA's 
timeline for establishing the advisory committees and to ensure that 
adequate resources are committed to support their formation and ongoing 
work. These two provisions and the industry advisory committees they 
mandate are essential for establishing a clear FAA direction and 
ensuring industry alignment as we enter the next phase of uncrewed 
aviation.
      Section 745--Electric Aircraft Infrastructure Pilot Program
    Establishes guidance and eligibility under the Airport Improvement 
Program (AIP) for a pilot program to fund ground infrastructure and 
support equipment for AAM operations.
    Some AAM aircraft require new ground support systems, including 
charging stations and maintenance facilities. Federal support through 
AIP ensures that smaller and regional airports can participate in AAM 
development opening access to more markets, users, and use cases. Pilot 
programs enable demonstration of emerging technologies while ensuring 
public investment aligns with community needs.
    Next Steps: The FAA should issue clear program guidance and 
eligibility criteria, enabling airports to apply for funding and begin 
preparing for AAM integration.
             Section 906--Electronic Conspicuity (EC) Study
    Directs the FAA to conduct a comprehensive study on EC 
technologies, with the goal of improving situational awareness, 
enabling safer UAS integration into the national airspace system (NAS), 
and supporting scalable, cooperative operations at low altitudes.
    AUVSI supports a future where there are zero air or ground aircraft 
collisions. Universal adoption of EC is a way to bring this into 
reality by giving all users of the NAS situational awareness of other 
local users so that they can be detected and avoided.
    Today, in the increasingly complex environment of the NAS, 
particularly at lower altitudes where both crewed and uncrewed aircraft 
routinely operate, the need for enhanced situational awareness is 
intensifying. ADS-B, however, is not mandated for all airspace users 
and in all airspace. While ADS-B Out is required in certain controlled 
airspace under 14 CFR 91.225, large portions of the NAS user community 
remain unequipped with ADS-B, with many general aviation (GA) aircraft, 
as well as gliders, balloons, parachuters, ultralights, and some aerial 
applicators, facing practical or technical limitations that make ADS-B 
Out installation impractical. To address these gaps, there is a 
pressing need for an FAA approved low-cost, low-power EC solution that 
enables aircraft to broadcast their position and be detected by others 
nearby, supporting safe operations across all airspace users.
    Low-power, low-cost, portable EC solutions available on the 
marketplace now, but not yet FAA approved, could ensure all users can 
participate in a cooperative safety environment. It is noteworthy that 
portable low-power EC devices are approved in other nations, including 
the United Kingdom, Australia, South Africa, and New Zealand. 
Importantly, low-power EC supports pilot autonomy while protecting 
operator privacy and discouraging misuse of location data for 
enforcement or fees. This is a key issue for adoption among certain 
segments of the aviation community.
    Universal EC offers a realistic, scalable path to eliminating air 
and ground collisions by enabling shared visibility and mutual 
situational awareness among all airspace users. As detailed in the 
BVLOS ARC, drone operators are committed to yielding right-of-way to 
manned aircraft broadcasting EC signals--but cannot avoid aircraft they 
cannot electronically ``see.''
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to ensure the FAA:
      Expedites the Section 906 study and engage GA, UAS, and 
public safety stakeholders to ensure diverse operational needs are 
considered.
      Uses study findings to define performance-based EC 
standards that promote adoption, enhance safety, and support long-term 
scalability across the NAS.
      Adopts low-power, low-cost, portable EC technologies for 
use in the NAS and drives towards a universal adoption mandate.

    Universal EC is a foundational enabler of safe, cooperative flight. 
Swift implementation of Section 906 will help deliver a more connected, 
collaborative, and collision-free future for American aviation.
  Section 907--Remote Identification (Remote ID) Alternative Means of 
                               Compliance
    Requires the FAA to establish a process for accepting alternative 
methods of compliance with Remote ID regulations.
    Remote ID compliance is presently hovering around 50%, which is a 
strong indication that the current model is not working as intended. 
Allowing alternative compliance pathways could promote technological 
innovation while maintaining safety and accountability. Clear guidance 
from the FAA on acceptable alternatives will reduce regulatory 
uncertainty, improve airspace awareness, and encourage compliance.
    Next Steps: The FAA must develop, in coordination with 
stakeholders, a framework for evaluating and approving alternative 
compliance mechanisms, supported by clear, risk-based criteria. 
Furthermore, as it relates to the existing standard for broadcast 
Remote ID, industry, the FAA, and other U.S. government agencies have 
demonstrated through multiple test environments that broadcast Remote 
ID can be cost-effective tool for airspace awareness and safety. 
Improvements are required, however, including minimum broadcast power 
standards. Furthermore, the FAA should explore, with partner agencies 
like the Department of Justice (DOJ), enforcement actions for 
noncompliance.
               Section 908--Part 107 Waiver Improvements
    Mandates improvements to the waiver process under Part 107 to 
ensure it is more efficient, transparent, and predictable.
    This section was key, as lengthy and burdensome waiver reviews 
hinder commercial operations and discourage innovation. Many waiver 
requests are for common operations with well-understood risk profiles. 
These should be fast-tracked with past waiver data leveraged with the 
implementation of AI tools to improve the speed and predictability of 
approvals and reduce administrative burdens for industry and the FAA.
    Since passage of P.L. 116-83, we have seen a significant 
acceleration in the FAA's approval of BVLOS waivers and exemptions, 
particularly for public safety operations, enabling broader adoption of 
drone technologies that are already contributing to crime reduction 
nationwide. This progress reflects the FAA and DOT's effective use of 
existing authorities. AUVSI commends Congress for the inclusion of 
Section 908 and the FAA for this positive shift, which demonstrates how 
regulatory flexibility can deliver real-world results.
    Next Steps: The FAA should continue to develop and implement AI-
powered automated workflows for routine waivers, publish clear approval 
criteria, and frequently engage stakeholders to continuously refine the 
process like the categorical exclusions (CATEXs) and summary grants 
already seen across other UAS operations.
   Section 912--Drone Infrastructure Inspection Grant (DIIG) Program
    Establishes a grant program under DOT to support the use of drones 
for inspecting, repairing, and constructing critical infrastructure. 
Eligible recipients include state, tribal, and local governments, 
metropolitan planning organizations, or consortiums of such entities. 
Grants will help recipients use drones to increase operational 
efficiency, lower costs, enhance worker and community safety, reduce 
carbon emissions, and address other infrastructure priorities. DOT is 
required to report to Congress on the program's effectiveness within 
two (2) years of the first grant award. To date, funds have not been 
appropriated to allow DOT to make grants.
    Drones can dramatically reduce inspection times and improve data 
accuracy, leading to more responsive and cost-effective infrastructure 
management. Replacing manual inspections with drones can reduce risks 
to workers, especially in hazardous or hard-to-reach environments. 
Further, by minimizing the need for heavy machinery and long field 
operations, drones can lower greenhouse gas emissions. The DIIG Program 
will be a winning program for drone manufacturers, drone operators, and 
governments that are in dire need of safer and more efficient 
infrastructure inspection--but Congress must fund the program to get it 
going now that it has been authorized.
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to:
      Fund the program fully at $12 million for fiscal years 
2026-2028 to maximize long-term cost savings and safety gains.
      Ensure timely program launch with early engagement of 
eligible entities and industry stakeholders.
      Promote UAS adoption in disaster-prone regions to bolster 
infrastructure resilience.
   Section 913--Drone Education and Workforce Training Grant Program
    Directs the DOT to establish a Drone Education and Workforce 
Training Grant Program, authorizing $5 million annually from fiscal 
years 2025-2028 to support small UAS workforce development through 
grants to educational institutions.
    As the UAS and AAM industries expand, there is a widening gap in 
skilled personnel, including maintenance technicians, data analysts, 
and systems engineers. Community colleges, universities, and 
credentialing organizations are poised to deliver UAS, AAM and 
autonomous operations-specific training at scale, if provided the 
necessary resources. This grant program provides a vital pathway for 
underserved communities and young professionals to access high-paying, 
future-oriented jobs in aviation.
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to hold the FAA to the intent of 
Section 913 and:
      Expedite program launch and deploy grant resources in 
close coordination with industry needs.
      Prioritize partnerships with institutions demonstrating 
inclusive access and strong job placement potential.

    We urge Congress, through the House Transportation, Housing and 
Urban Development, and Related Agencies Appropriations bill, to fully 
fund Section 913 to ensure the success of this critical workforce 
development initiative.
    AUVSI commends this Committee for previously holding a hearing on 
this topic on July 10, 2024, titled, ``Eliminating Bottlenecks: 
Examining Opportunities to Recruit, Retain, and Engage Aviation 
Talent,'' which AUVSI was honored to testify at.\4\
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          Section 914--Drone Workforce Training Program Study
    Directs the Government Accountability Office (GAO) to evaluate the 
effectiveness of the FAA's UAS Collegiate Training Initiative (CTI) 
program, originally authorized in the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 
FAA (P.L. 115-254). The program recognizes educational institutions 
that prepare students for careers in uncrewed aviation through 
technical instruction and industry engagement.
    Over one hundred and forty (140) colleges and universities, 
including four (4) Minority Serving Institutions, currently participate 
in the CTI program, making it a critical pipeline for building a 
skilled, diverse UAS workforce. CTIs align closely with employer needs, 
engaging with FAA, industry, and public safety agencies to ensure 
students are prepared for UAS careers with a strong foundation in 
operational safety and regulatory compliance. Programs like AUVSI's 
Trusted Operator align with CTIs to deliver advanced, standardized 
training and safety credentials valued by employers, and have already 
produced more than one thousand six hundred (1,600) certified 
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    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to insist that the FAA and GAO:
      Engage CTI institutions and industry stakeholders during 
the GAO review to identify successes, gaps, and opportunities for 
program improvement.
      Use the study to establish metrics and best practices 
that can be scaled nationally, ensuring consistency in safety, skills, 
and workforce readiness.
      AUVSI also recommends Congress ensure sustained support 
and future investment in the UAS-CTI program as a foundational element 
of national workforce development and aviation innovation.
                Section 922--Know Before You Fly (KBYF)
    Extends the KBYF initiative, which is now more important than ever. 
KBYF, established through a partnership between the FAA, AUVSI, the 
Academy of Model Aeronautics (AMA), and the Consumer Technology 
Association (CTA), is a Congressional Directive authorized by P.L. 115-
254.\6\ KBYF supports educational initiatives by providing drone kits 
and lesson plans to teachers for classroom and extracurricular use, 
fostering a culture of safety and innovation from a young age to ensure 
future generations are proficient in safe drone operations. KBYF-funded 
activities also focus on Public Service Announcements (PSAs), 
education, and outreach concerning safety topics such as drone 
registration, Remote ID compliance, the Recreational UAS Safety Test 
(TRUST), and drone participation in the Aviation Safety Reporting 
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    We are encouraged that P.L. 118-63 extends the KBYF program through 
2028 and encourage Congress to appropriate full funding for the program 
to ensure that ongoing education, particularly as it relates to key 
issues like airspace awareness, drone registration, and Remote ID 
compliance are well understood and adhered to. Examples of recent KBYF 
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           Section 929--Fixed-Site Facility UAS Restrictions
    Section 2209 of the FAA Extension, Safety, and Security Act of 2016 
(P.L. 114-190) mandated the establishment of a process allowing 
operators of fixed-site facilities--such as critical infrastructure, 
oil refineries, chemical plants, stadiums, and amusement parks--to 
petition the FAA to restrict or prohibit UAS operations in close 
proximity to their facilities. Despite the statutory requirement for 
the FAA to implement this process within one hundred and eighty (180) 
days of the Act's enactment, the agency has yet to even release a draft 
of the regulation nearly a decade later. Section 929 of P.L. 118-63 
reinforces Congress' desire to see this provision from the 2016 law 
implemented with tight timelines for action, the first deadline of 
which has already been missed again, and direction to also include 
state prisons in the rulemaking.
    This delay has led to a fragmented regulatory landscape, with 
various states enacting their own drone restrictions, resulting in a 
patchwork of laws that complicates compliance for drone operators and 
infrastructure stakeholders. AUVSI has worked to mitigate this 
patchwork of state rules through its Drone Prepared campaign at the 
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    The Section 2209 rulemaking has been tied to the BVLOS rulemaking, 
and like the Part 108 NPRM, is currently at OIRA for review. We believe 
this rule may move from NPRM direct to Interim Final Rule (IFR), though 
that is still yet unconfirmed as of the timing of this hearing.
               Section 932--Third-Party Service Approvals
    Directs the FAA to develop a streamlined process for approving 
third-party service providers that support UAS, AAM, and autonomous air 
operations, such as Remote ID providers, UAS Traffic Management (UTM) 
systems, ground-based detect and avoid (DAA), secure command and 
control (C2) links, and other critical digital infrastructure services. 
The statutory deadline for action on this section passed earlier this 
month on the one-year anniversary of the bill being signed into law.
    The future of advanced aviation depends on a healthy ecosystem of 
third-party services to deliver core safety, navigation, and compliance 
functions. Today, many service providers stand ready to support 
operations, but FAA approval bottlenecks are stalling deployment. 
Meanwhile, other countries, including the PRC, are rapidly 
institutionalizing such ecosystems. Delayed action will cede leadership 
in this fast-evolving domain.
    Next Steps: The FAA must publish a clear and accelerated approval 
process for third-party service providers, with transparent criteria, 
defined timelines, and ongoing industry consultation to ensure 
scalability and safety.
                 Section 934--Operations Over High Seas
    Directs the FAA to issue regulations enabling UAS operations over 
international waters, consistent with U.S. obligations under the 
Chicago Convention.
    This is an issue AUVSI has been working on with the FAA for many 
years to resolve, as U.S.-based UAS operators need clear authority to 
conduct long-range and maritime operations in international airspace. 
Prior to a change in FAA posture and interpretation of International 
Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) rules, these operations were 
occurring safely and routinely from the U.S. over the High Seas. That 
changed when FAA overturned past precedent and ended operations over 
the High Seas for U.S.-based operators; however, not all nations made 
that same decision, putting U.S. companies at a competitive 
disadvantage.
    Enabling operations over the High Seas supports critical missions 
including border patrol, maritime domain awareness, search and rescue, 
shipping logistics, offshore energy, and environmental monitoring. This 
is a high priority mission set for key U.S. government agencies, 
including the U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) and Customs and Border Protection 
(CBP), as well as for industry. By implementing Section 934, the U.S. 
can shape global norms and standards for UAS operations in 
international airspace, showcasing leadership and ensuring our 
priorities are at forefront of global aviation policy.
    Next Steps: Congress should encourage the FAA to authorize UAS 
operations over the High Seas in circumstances where the aircraft 
already operate in U.S. sovereign airspace under existing approvals. 
This would be straightforward, especially considering that third-party 
risk in these areas can be demonstrated to be even lower than in 
domestic operations where flights are occurring safely and routinely 
now.
    We are encouraged by the FAA's understanding of two important 
distinctions:
      First, between UAS certificated under a Special 
Airworthiness Certificate (SAC) and those not required to hold any 
certificate of airworthiness (such as those operating under Part 107 or 
a 44807 exemption).
      Second, between UAS used for commercial operations and 
those operating for experimental purposes, including research and 
development (R&D) and market surveys.

    These distinctions present a meaningful opportunity for near-term 
progress. Specifically, we believe the FAA can approve UAS operations 
over the High Seas within U.S.-delegated Flight Information Regions 
(FIRs), airspace over the High Seas where the U.S. has been delegated 
responsibility by ICAO to provide air traffic control and flight 
information services, even though that airspace is outside U.S. 
territorial limits, under a Special Airworthiness Certificate--
Experimental Category (SAC-EC) and Certificate of Waiver or 
Authorization (COA), consistent with the purpose authorized in those 
approvals. This step would:
      Directly benefit operators that currently are unable to 
operate over the High Seas out of the U.S. but can do so in some case 
out of other nations.
      Provide clear national security advantages.
      Demonstrate publicly that the FAA is taking a safe, 
incremental approach, setting an example for other nations.

    AUVSI also wants to emphasize the critical importance of U.S. 
leadership at ICAO and in bilateral and multilateral efforts to develop 
comprehensive frameworks for UAS operations over the High Seas. 
Continued FAA engagement and leadership at the key ICAO panels, within 
relevant ICAO forums, and in collaboration with international partners 
at the ICAO Assembly is essential to progress.
                 Section 936--Covered Drone Prohibition
    Prohibits DOT from entering into, renewing, or extending contracts 
or awarding grants involving the operation, procurement, or contracting 
of UAS, related systems, or counter-UAS technologies manufactured by 
covered foreign entities, including those from the PRC. These 
prohibitions apply across all DOT offices and programs.
    UAS systems from covered foreign entities pose significant 
cybersecurity, data privacy, and supply chain risks.\12\ Section 936 
promotes the transition to trusted domestic or allied technology 
suppliers for critical infrastructure and aviation applications and 
supports broader federal efforts to reduce reliance on adversarial 
technology in sensitive government operations.
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    More can be done by DOT to better educate grant recipients on the 
ban on grant funds being used in connection with PRC drones, and 
associated replacement of existing covered drones that are owned and 
operated by the agency. The full implementation of this section will 
undoubtedly support these goals.
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to uphold the intent of Section 936 
and:
      Support DOT in identifying and transitioning to secure, 
U.S.-based or allied alternatives.
      Fund the authorized replacement program to ensure 
continued operational capability during the transition.
      Encourage transparency in exemption and waiver processes 
to prevent unintended loopholes.
               Section 952--U.S. Global Leadership in AAM
    P.L. 118-63 expressed the sense of Congress that the United States 
should establish itself as a global leader in AAM, and directed the FAA 
to work collaboratively with manufacturers, prospective operators, and 
other relevant stakeholders to ensure the safe integration of AAM 
aircraft into the NAS.
    Since the enactment of P.L. 118-63, over the last year the AAM 
industry has made significant progress. Leading companies have 
demonstrated that this technology is already capable of safely and 
effectively operating within the NAS, conducting real-world missions 
nationwide. These flights validate both the performance and operational 
readiness of this emerging technology. Maintaining America's global 
leadership in aerospace requires that innovation be brought to market 
efficiently and safely.
    In recent years, however, the FAA has taken on excessive, under 
resourced direct oversight responsibilities for aircraft certification, 
overwhelming the agency and causing significant delays for innovative 
U.S. companies in the drone, AAM, and autonomy industries. The FAA is 
well-intentioned but not resourced to adequately conduct an ever-
expanding aircraft certification mission. The FAA does not have the 
personnel and expertise necessary to certify these new aircraft within 
a timeframe that aligns with industry needs for the United States to 
maintain global leadership. Companies building aircraft as diverse as 
sub fifty-five (55) pound drones to electric vertical takeoff and 
landing (eVTOL) craft to autonomous flight systems that enables 
aircraft to be remotely operated by a pilot on the ground are all 
funding and expanding a modernized and scalable scope of aviation 
(while maintaining safety), but are at risk of losing ground to 
international competitors because the FAA does not have the ability to 
certify the aircraft in a timely manner.
    Next Steps: The FAA must work transparently with industry and 
adhere to clear certification timelines to ensure that AAM technologies 
are developed, produced, and deployed here in the United States--before 
our competitive advantage is lost to global rivals.
    To keep pace with emerging technologies, the FAA should delegate 
routine approvals and compliance findings to respected industry experts 
and establish a right-sized enabling regulation for approval or 
certification rather than expanding its own workforce. With strong 
leadership and clear guardrails, enhanced delegation authority is 
essential for maintaining U.S. competitiveness. Confidence in the 
Organization Designation Authorization (ODA) Program must be fully 
restored and its use expanded for aircraft certification. By properly 
utilizing and expanding the ODA Program, the FAA can streamline its 
processes, improve efficiency, and significantly reduce taxpayer costs, 
ensuring timely certification without compromising safety and scaling 
the success of similar programs operated under the FAA designated test 
sites.
    In addition, the FAA should continue with and build on its approach 
to airworthiness approvals for drones using the Criteria for Making 
Determinations (CMD) process under its Section 44807 authority. This 
process has proven to be a successful tool in addressing changes and 
updates to drone platforms.
 Section 953--Application of National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) 
                     CATEXs for Vertiport Projects
    Requires the FAA to apply or establish CATEXs under NEPA to 
expedite environmental reviews for vertiports. This is key, as lengthy 
environmental reviews could stall critical AAM infrastructure projects. 
Just as certain road and rail projects benefit from CATEXs, vertiport 
development should similarly be streamlined to encourage sustainable, 
multimodal transportation. Vertiports will drive jobs and connectivity, 
especially in urban and underserved regions--delays in approvals 
undermine these benefits.
    Next Steps: The FAA should publish clear NEPA guidance, identify 
common low impact vertiport scenarios suitable for CATEXs, and 
collaborate with local authorities to streamline siting and permitting. 
AUVSI's AAM Prepared initiative is designed to serve as a model for 
state and local officials.\13\
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       Section 955--Rules for Operation of Powered-Lift Aircraft
    AUVSI applauds the FAA for finalizing the Special Federal Aviation 
Regulation (SFAR) to integrate powered-lift aircraft into the NAS, 
including establishing pilot certification and operational 
requirements. The SFAR established an initial path forward, but long-
term performance-based rules are needed to support certification, 
operations, and training at scale--especially for autonomous and 
remotely piloted AAM aircraft. Accordingly, Section 955 also mandates 
long-term rulemaking and a dedicated ARC to guide future regulation of 
both piloted and autonomous powered-lift aircraft, including commercial 
and cargo operations. This is essential, as countries like the PRC are 
already deploying autonomous AAM systems. Accordingly, delayed 
regulatory pathways for powered-lift aircraft risks ceding U.S. 
leadership in this critical aviation sector, which we cannot allow to 
happen.
    Next Steps: AUVSI asks Congress to urge the FAA to:
      Fully implement the Powered-Lift SFAR while accelerating 
the permanent rulemaking process informed by real-world experience, 
ICAO standards, and international best practices.
      Ensure the regulatory framework supports both near-term 
piloted operations and the transition to autonomy, including standards 
for remote pilot training and certification.
                   Section 1044--FAA UAS and AAM R&D
    Directs the FAA, in coordination with the National Aeronautics and 
Space Administration (NASA) and other federal agencies, to conduct and 
support R&D, testing, and demonstration activities to enable the safe 
integration of drones and AAM technologies into the NAS. Focus areas 
include BVLOS operations, C2 links, UTM, DAA systems, vehicle-to-
vehicle standards, and the societal and environmental impacts of AAM 
and UAS. A report to Congress was required within nine (9) months of 
the law's enactment, which is now overdue by over one hundred (100) 
days, unless reported to Congress and not released publicly.
    UAS and AAM technologies require robust risk-based evaluation 
frameworks to inform future FAA regulations, certification, and 
operational approvals. Research outputs are essential to updating 
current regulations and practices or establishing new ones that 
accommodate complex operations like autonomous BVLOS flight and large 
UAS integration. Section 1044 allows for concurrent deployment and 
research, ensuring that innovation is not delayed while safety research 
continues. Timely execution of Section 1044 will help align regulatory 
policy with technological advancement, ensuring the U.S. maintains 
global leadership in uncrewed and advanced aviation systems.
    Next Steps: AUVSI urges the FAA to:
      Accelerate research in collaboration with industry and 
academia, especially in areas that inform near-term BVLOS, large UAS, 
and AAM certification guidance.
      Utilize ongoing research to update regulatory frameworks 
and operational standards without delaying deployment of safe, 
commercially ready technologies.
      Submit the required report to Congress and release it 
publicly, providing transparency on costs, progress, and plans for 
expanded operational approvals.
 Airspace Modernization, Air Traffic Control Investments for Advanced 
         Aviation, and UAS Detection and Mitigation Authorities
Modern Skies
    On a related subject not directly relevant to the topic of this 
hearing but nonetheless very important to the future of the NAS, AUVSI 
also offers our thoughts on the challenges and opportunities that exist 
on airspace modernization efforts.
    AUVSI is a proud member of the Modern Skies Coalition, a group of 
more than fifty (50) wide-ranging aviation and aerospace industry 
organizations, which is highlighting the urgent need across the U.S. to 
hire and retain more air traffic controllers, upgrade FAA technology 
and infrastructure, and further modernize the NAS in a way that ensures 
an equitable and safe airspace for all.\14\ We applaud this Committee, 
along with Secretary Duffy and Administrator Rocheleau, for moving 
boldly to upgrade the nation's dated air traffic control (ATC) system. 
AUVSI urges Congress to act swiftly in response to modernization plans 
by leveraging the budget reconciliation process, appropriations 
process, and standalone legislation as needed to keep this 
modernization effort on track.
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    Specific to the advanced aviation segment of the industry, AUVSI 
believes that advancements in technology integration and investments in 
modern low altitude awareness systems should be part of the near-term 
implementation plan. As noted, AAM aircraft have the potential to 
transform how people and goods move by enabling safer, faster, more 
efficient transportation within and between urban and rural areas. AAM 
aircraft can reduce congestion, cut commute times, and lower 
emissions--making transportation safer, cleaner, and more accessible. 
AAM also supports new economic opportunities by creating high-tech 
manufacturing jobs, expanding aviation services to underserved 
communities, and fostering innovation in energy storage, automation, 
and aerospace engineering. Yet, while we are confident that AAM 
aircraft can be integrated into the NAS now with existing ATC 
technology, to truly scale the industry to meet the promise of the 
technology, advancements in technology integration will be needed. Many 
AAM operators envision high-frequency, low-altitude operations, often 
in dense urban areas, which existing ATC systems are not equipped to 
manage. Traditional airspace management relies on fixed routes and 
voice communications, but integrating AAM at scale demands dynamic, 
data-driven systems capable of real-time coordination across both 
crewed, and in the future, uncrewed aircraft. It also requires seamless 
transitions between low-altitude and controlled airspace, greater 
automation, and predictive tools to manage complex traffic patterns 
safely and efficiently. Without these improvements, AAM operations will 
remain constrained, and the broader societal and economic benefits of 
this next-generation aviation will go unrealized.
    With respect to drones, we encourage Congress to ensure the FAA is 
implementing Section 911 of P.L. 118-63, which requires DOT to initiate 
a pilot program to supplement the department's oversight and inspection 
activities using UAS, including the inspection of ground-based aviation 
infrastructure, to increase employee safety, enhance data collection, 
improve the accuracy of inspections, and reduce the costs associated 
with such inspections. A great way to modernize our ATC system is to 
ensure the new infrastructure lasts longer and using drones for 
inspection is a proven method for cost reduction and improved safety.
    Greater attention from the FAA should also be directed toward the 
development and approval of ground-based safety and security systems, 
which depend on robust physical and digital infrastructure, as noted 
above related to Section 932 implementation. This infrastructure is 
critical to supporting the growth of certain BVLOS drone and autonomous 
aircraft operations, as it will provide the ground locations for safe 
and secure launch and recovery, maintenance, temporary operations, and 
public safety missions such as drone as a first responder (DFR) 
programs. These designated areas will serve both routine and off-
nominal needs, helping to ensure operational reliability and public 
trust. In sensitive or high-risk environments, ground-based sensors can 
provide critical situational awareness by detecting all aircraft 
operating in low-altitude airspace, regardless of whether they are 
broadcasting their position electronically.
    As noted, drones deliver tremendous value to society--enhancing 
public safety, enabling efficient infrastructure inspection, and 
driving economic growth. They support first responders with real-time 
situational awareness during emergencies, aid in disaster recovery, and 
help maintain critical infrastructure like bridges, power lines, and 
pipelines. Across sectors such as agriculture, logistics, and media, 
drones are also creating high-skill jobs and fostering technological 
innovation. Yet, recent high-profile drone activity, such as the 
reported drone sights in New Jersey, which have now largely been 
discredited and demonstrated to be aircraft other than drones, has 
spotlighted significant gaps in low-altitude airspace awareness.\15\ 
This surge in attention has underscored how low Remote ID compliance, 
limited investment in low altitude airspace awareness capabilities, and 
outdated regulations make it difficult for authorities to differentiate 
between authorized operations, negligent behavior, and potential 
threats. This uncertainty jeopardizes public trust and risks 
constraining a rapidly growing industry. Accordingly, AUVSI believes 
that innovation and security must advance in lockstep.
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    Our current ATC system is not designed for low altitude airspace 
awareness. Plainly speaking, most U.S. ground-based radar is good at 
tracking things at high altitude going very fast. Most UAS operate at 
low attitude at much lower speeds, which current FAA ATC infrastructure 
is not optimized for. Accordingly, as investments are made to upgrade 
ATC technologies, addressing this gap will require investment in 
modern, ground-based and networked surveillance systems--including 
radar, acoustic sensors, and cooperative data-sharing platforms--as 
well as support for digital infrastructure such as Remote ID, UTM, and 
real-time telemetry integration. Without a foundational layer of 
airspace awareness at low altitudes, efforts to enable safe, routine, 
and secure drone operations in the United States will remain 
constrained.
    AUVSI's Blueprint for Autonomy calls on Congress and federal 
agencies to prioritize these investments as part of a national strategy 
for airspace modernization.\16\ The Blueprint outlines the need to 
accelerate FAA's efforts to establish a regulatory and operational 
framework for digital airspace services, enable certification of 
airspace service providers, and fund infrastructure that supports safe 
and scalable integration of autonomous aircraft. Without decisive 
action, the U.S. risks falling behind global competitors that are 
already investing in the digital infrastructure needed to lead in 
autonomous aviation.
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UAS Detection and Mitigation
    The current UAS detection and mitigation framework presents many 
critical gaps that limit our ability to respond effectively to 
malicious or reckless drone activity, and, as noted, can lead to 
misunderstanding and falsely identified ``drone sightings'' due to a 
lack of low altitude airspace awareness. Many federal agencies, as well 
as all state, local, tribal, and territorial (SLTT) law enforcement, 
and National Guard units, lack statutory authority to deploy and 
operate UAS detection and mitigation equipment. This absence of 
authority hampers timely response to drone threats at large public 
events, near critical infrastructure, or in emergency situations--gaps 
repeatedly identified by national security stakeholders, including the 
White House and the National Football League (NFL), which has 
emphasized the urgency of enabling local response during major sporting 
events and other significant gatherings.
    Select federal agencies currently operating under temporary 
authorities granted by Section 124n of the fiscal year 2018 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) still lack permanent statutory 
authority. Without enduring authorization, these agencies face 
uncertainty in planning and operational continuity, limiting proactive 
threat mitigation efforts. As AUVSI has noted, sustained and 
predictable authority is essential to building an effective national 
UAS detection and mitigation architecture. Further, the FAA has also 
not yet taken sufficient steps to evaluate detection and mitigation 
technologies which offer a promising solution for identifying, and in 
very extreme cases, mitigating malicious drones in congested airspace, 
including without kinetic force. Testing such technologies is essential 
to determine their safety, effectiveness, and compatibility with the 
broader airspace ecosystem, and has been called for in White House and 
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) counter-drone strategy documents.
    This Committee has previously worked on legislation to address 
these gaps, and AUVSI encourages work to continue to pass legislation 
in 2025 which moves the UAS detection and mitigation policy landscape 
forward in a meaningful way. Security, like safety, it not a barrier to 
integration--it is a foundation of it.
    To address these challenges and seize opportunities, the United 
States must act decisively. Low altitude airspace awareness, air 
traffic control modernization, the incorporation of digital flight 
rules, and expanded UAS detection and mitigation authorities are all 
essential to building the ATC and NAS of the future and ensuring 
situational awareness at all altitudes.
                               Conclusion
    P.L. 118-63, is a bold, comprehensive roadmap for the future of 
American aviation. Yet legislation alone is not enough. Congress must 
continue exercising strong, regular oversight to ensure that the FAA 
delivers on the mandates in a timely, transparent, and accountable 
manner.
    AUVSI and our members stand ready to support the FAA, DOT, and this 
Committee in ensuring that the promise of UAS and AAM technologies is 
fully realized, and the U.S. maintains the gold standard of aviation 
safety and global aviation leadership. We are committed to a future 
where U.S. innovation leads the world--where safety, security, 
performance, and progress go hand in hand.
    Thank you for your leadership and the opportunity to appear before 
you today.

    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Mr. Robbins.
    Captain Reven, you are recognized.

TESTIMONY OF CAPTAIN JODY REVEN, PRESIDENT, SOUTHWEST AIRLINES 
                       PILOTS ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Reven. Chairman Nehls, Ranking Member Cohen, members of 
the subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify and 
share the perspective of more than 11,000 commercial airline 
pilots of Southwest Airlines Pilots Association.
    My name is Jody Reven. I am a current 737 captain at 
Southwest Airlines and president of SWAPA. SWAPA is one of the 
largest independent pilot unions in the world and is the sole 
bargaining unit for the professional pilots of Southwest 
Airlines. SWAPA has been dedicated to aviation safety and 
security since 1978.
    I am pleased to participate in today's discussion about the 
2024 FAA reauthorization and air traffic systems, personnel, 
and aviation safety.
    Let me begin by saying that the pilots of Southwest 
Airlines are heartbroken by the tragedy in DCA in January. We 
share our deepest condolences with the families and passengers 
of the crew of American 5342 and PAT 25.
    We are committed to working with this committee, Congress, 
and all aviation stakeholders to ensure a similar tragedy never 
happens again. Safety and operational excellence are not 
guaranteed. Our system relies on industrywide collaboration.
    SWAPA is proud to be a leader in safety data collection and 
analysis, risk identification and mitigation.
    Southwest pilots are among the most productive in the 
world, operating over 4,000 flights a day to 120 domestic and 
international airports.
    SWAPA partners with the FAA, labor partners, airlines, and 
the industry with one goal, and that is to keep the National 
Airspace System the safest and most efficient in the world. We 
carry 1.5 million passengers a year, and the SWAPA pilots 
depend on that safety.
    SWAPA supports immediate actions to implement long-overdue 
technology upgrades, increase air traffic control staffing, and 
equip the FAA to recapitalize its systems and processes to meet 
the demands of an increasingly complex airspace.
    The pilots of Southwest Airlines are industry leaders in 
incorporating technology that increases awareness and provides 
tools to help pilots and controllers make safe decisions. 
Unfortunately, the system's potential is not fully realized.
    Recent high-profile issues have demonstrated that ATC 
facilities are not properly equipped or staffed. All aircraft, 
including rotorcraft and advanced air mobility systems, must 
properly be equipped with technology that provides ATC and 
other pilots with critical situational awareness to mitigate 
risks.
    The incidents, including a recent one at Chicago Midway 
Airport where two Southwest pilots recognized safety and 
avoided a hazardous runway incursion, has reinforced that we 
have to have a minimum complement of two pilots in every 
cockpit.
    In discussions with Secretary Duffy after this incident 
took place, we made the point, there is really no technological 
solution that can overcome the risks introduced by reducing the 
flight deck complement. The flight deck and ATC technology are 
support tools and never a replacement for experienced and 
rested, fully trained pilots and air traffic controllers and 
flight attendants.
    SWAPA thanks the committee for the 5-year bipartisan FAA 
reauthorization bill that expedites the hiring of air traffic 
controllers, strengthens the aviation workforce while 
protecting experience requirements, and accelerates the 
development and deployment of advanced technologies, including 
the new surface safety technology, runway and taxi signage, and 
lighting systems.
    We also want to thank this committee and the FAA for their 
commitment to increasing transparency and efficiency in the 
FAA's Office of Aerospace Medicine. Expanding the number of 
aerospace medical examiners and reducing the processing times 
for aeromedical certificates are essential steps to maintaining 
a strong pipeline of well-trained and experienced pilots.
    SWAPA fully supports this administration's budget, which 
funds the FAA's technology and facilities account at $4 
billion. The system urgently needs sustained, robust budget 
requests and immediate infusion of funding.
    SWAPA also applauds Chairman Graves' critical first step in 
moving forward with the $12.5 billion of funding.
    We would like to thank this administration and this body 
for making our Nation's air traffic control system a priority. 
We look forward to working with the administration and Congress 
to make this a reality.
    I look forward to answering your questions.
    [Mr. Reven's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
Prepared Statement of Captain Jody Reven, President, Southwest Airlines 
                           Pilots Association
    Chairman Graves, Ranking Member Larsen and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify and share the 
perspective of the more than 11,000 commercial airline pilots of the 
Southwest Airlines Pilots Association. My name is Jody Reven, and I am 
a current 737 Captain at Southwest Airlines and President of SWAPA.
    SWAPA is one the largest independent pilot unions in the world and 
is the sole bargaining unit for the professional pilots of Southwest 
Airlines. SWAPA has been dedicated to aviation safety and security 
since 1978. We are grateful to offer our perspective on the 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization and air traffic systems, personnel, and aviation 
safety.
    The pilots of Southwest Airlines are heartbroken by the tragedy at 
Reagan National Airport (DCA) in January. We share our deepest 
condolences with the families of the passengers and crew of American 
Airlines 5342 and PAT 25. We are committed to working with this 
committee, Congress and all aviation stakeholders to ensure a similar 
tragedy never happens again.
    Safety and operational excellence are not guaranteed, and our 
system relies on industry-wide collaboration. SWAPA is proud to be a 
leader in safety data collection and analysis, risk identification, and 
mitigation. Southwest pilots are among the most productive in the 
world, operating over 4,000 flights each day to 120 domestic and 
international airports. SWAPA partners with the FAA, aviation labor, 
airlines, and the industry with one goal: to keep the National Airspace 
System the safest and most efficient in the world. The 1.5 million 
passengers that SWAPA pilots carry each year depend on it.
    SWAPA supports immediate actions to implement the 2024 FAA 
Reauthorization and make long overdue technological upgrades, increase 
air traffic controller staffing, and equip FAA to recapitalize its 
systems and processes to meet the demands of increasingly complex 
airspace.
    The pilots of Southwest Airlines are industry leaders in 
incorporating technology that increases situational awareness and 
provides tools to help pilots and controllers make safe decisions. 
Unfortunately, the system's potential is not fully realized.
    To maintain and enhance the safety and efficiency of the National 
Airspace System (NAS), we must make technological and infrastructure 
improvements now. This includes ongoing development of advanced 
automation tools, improved airport infrastructure, and modernized gate-
to-gate operations that reduce delays and improve passenger flow. The 
evolving landscape of air travel--which includes commercial carriers, 
unmanned aerial systems (UAS), urban air mobility, and space flight--
demands a NAS that can accommodate greater complexity safely and 
efficiently.
    SWAPA has partnered with the FAA, aviation labor, and industry to 
advance air traffic modernization and recapitalization efforts. Key 
components of advanced technology--performance-based navigation, data 
communication, and Automatic Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast (ADS-B)--
enhance pilot and controller decision-making and situational awareness. 
However, not all aircraft are equipped to fully utilize these 
technologies. A significant percentage of participating aircraft lack 
the navigation capabilities required to benefit from new procedures, 
forcing controllers and pilots to use inefficient workarounds. 
Standardized equipage across the fleet is essential for the NAS to 
achieve its full potential.
    Advanced navigation procedures, which improve efficiency and reduce 
noise and emissions, cannot become standard unless a greater portion of 
participating aircraft are properly equipped. Attempting to compensate 
with increased pilot workload undermines the intended safety and 
efficiency benefits. Moreover, there is no substitute for two fully 
trained, qualified and rested pilots on the flight deck. Automation 
should support pilots, not replace them. FAA studies confirm that 
roughly 20% of normal flights experience anomalies requiring human 
intervention, reinforcing the need for pilot redundancy.
    Communication, Navigation, Surveillance/Air Traffic Management 
(CNS/ATM) integration is another critical area that FAA must 
accelerate. Enhanced communication, navigation, and surveillance 
systems increase situational awareness, reduce carbon emissions, 
support fuel savings, and reduce flight times. Tools like ADS-B, 
Airport Surface Detection Equipment, Model X (ASDE-X), and Airport 
Surface Surveillance Capability (ASSC) improve runway safety, yet these 
systems are not available at all airports. SWAPA urges the FAA to 
rapidly deploy surface safety systems at all airports with airline 
operations. We are encouraged by the Surface Awareness Initiative 
(SAI), which is now expanding to more airports.
    Unfortunately, a large percentage of FAA's current equipment and 
communications systems are outdated and not up to the task of handling 
the current airspace system, let alone future demands. The Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) recently conducted an operational risk 
assessment of FAA's Air Traffic Organization (ATO). It found ``that of 
FAA's 138 systems, 51 (37 percent) were unsustainable and 54 (39 
percent) were potentially unsustainable.'' FAA must move faster to 
address these concerns.
    SWAPA pilots operate at some of the most complex, mixed-use 
airports in the United States. Mixed-use airports have additional risk 
factors that must be considered. Airports that serve primarily air 
transport aircraft only do a good job with traffic flows, deconfliction 
and procedures. High density airports that serve air transport, light 
civil aircraft, business jets and helicopters are at the highest risk 
of another midair collision. The tragedy at Reagan National Airport 
must not be repeated, and SWAPA urges FAA to conduct an immediate 
safety assessment at Hollywood Burbank (BUR), Long Beach (LGB), and 
Orange County-John Wayne (SNA) airports to ensure processes and 
deconfliction procedures are adequate.
    Terminal automation enhancements, such as Approach Runway 
Verification (ARV), improve alignment accuracy for arriving aircraft. 
We also commend efforts to install automation displays to boost 
controller situational awareness where radar coverage is limited.
    We also support space-based ADS-B as a critical supplement to the 
ground network, offering real-time aircraft tracking over oceanic 
airspace. This will improve safety by eliminating delays in locating 
aircraft in emergencies and enhance surveillance where traditional 
ground infrastructure is not viable.
    Data Comm, which allows digital messaging between pilots and 
controllers, reduces miscommunication and increases efficiency. 
However, implementation has been uneven. FAA should continue efforts to 
roll out Data Comm and ensure max participation of all aircraft.
    Future NAS demands include real-time data exchange and improved 
integration of space launch operations. The FAA must also develop a 
robust Unmanned Traffic Management (UTM) system to manage growing low-
altitude drone traffic. All aircraft--including rotorcraft and advanced 
air mobility systems--must be equipped with technology that gives ATC 
and other pilots critical situational awareness to help mitigate risks.
    Recent high-profile incidents highlight that ATC facilities are 
inadequately equipped and staffed, and reinforce the fact that safety 
depends on experienced and well-rested pilots and controllers. These 
incidents, including at Chicago's Midway Airport where two Southwest 
Pilots recognized and safely avoided a hazardous runway incursion, 
reinforce that we must have a minimum of two pilots on the flight deck 
to ensure added awareness, expertise, and experience. There is no 
technological solution that can overcome the risks introduced by 
reducing the flight deck compliment. Flight deck and ATC technology are 
support tools and never a replacement for highly experienced, rested 
and fully trained pilots and controllers.
    SWAPA thanks this committee and FAA for their commitment to 
increasing transparency and efficiency in the FAA's Office of Aerospace 
Medicine. Expanding the number of Aerospace Medical Examiners (AME) and 
reducing the processing times for aeromedical certificates are 
essential steps to maintaining a strong pipeline of well-trained and 
experienced pilots. Increasing transparency, improving pilot and AME 
education, and reducing wait-times for medical certifications is 
critical. FAA has an opportunity to revolutionize the aeromedical 
process, and we encourage the creation of an Airman's Medical Portal 
where digital, secure delivery of required documents by both pilots and 
AMEs could increase efficiency for both pilots and the regulator.
    Finally, despite congressional authorization for multiyear 
modernization projects, FAA budget projections often fall short, 
particularly in facilities and equipment funding. This underestimation, 
paired with frequent budget disruptions, hampers effective planning and 
implementation. While Congress has supported FAA funding through annual 
appropriations and reauthorization, budget shortfalls, funding 
disruptions and continuing resolutions have hampered progress. A 
stable, multi-year funding strategy is critical to maintaining our 
leadership in global aviation safety.
    FAA must also provide realistic funding requests that recapitalize 
systems instead of maintaining legacy systems that are decades old in 
some cases. FAA must be accountable for meeting goals and 
implementation deadlines of the 2024 FAA Reauthorization.
    SWAPA thanks this committee for the five-year bipartisan FAA 
reauthorization bill that expedites the hiring of Air Traffic 
Controllers, strengthens the aviation workforce while protecting 
experience requirements, and accelerates the development and deployment 
of advanced technologies including new surface safety technology and 
runway and taxiway signage and lighting systems. We appreciate the 
Committee's leadership in addressing near-miss incidents, enhancing 
runway safety, and advancing critical technologies. Notable 
improvements include the sustained operation of ASDE-X systems, and 
support for the Runway Safety Council and discretionary grant programs.
    SWAPA fully supports the Administration's budget which funds the 
FAA's Technology and Facilities account at $4 billion. The system 
urgently needs sustained, robust budget requests and an immediate 
infusion of funding. SWAPA also applauds Chairman Graves' critical 
first step in moving forward on $12.5 billion of funding.
    We applaud the administration and this body for making our nation's 
air traffic control system a priority, and we look forward to working 
with the Administration and Congress to make this a reality. The pilots 
of Southwest Airlines are committed to continuing our work with the 
Committee, FAA, and industry partners to preserve and improve the 
safety of our national airspace. Thank you for the opportunity to 
testify and for your continued focus on aviation safety and 
implementation of the 2024 FAA Reauthorization.

    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Captain.
    Ms. Nelson, you are recognized.

TESTIMONY OF SARA NELSON, INTERNATIONAL PRESIDENT, ASSOCIATION 
               OF FLIGHT ATTENDANTS--CWA, AFL-CIO

    Ms. Nelson. Chair Nehls, Ranking Member Cohen, and members 
of the subcommittee, my name is Sara Nelson. I am the president 
of the Association of Flight Attendants and a 30-year flight 
attendant myself, representing 55,000 flight attendants at 20 
different airlines.
    We are grateful for the opportunity to testify with the 
perspective of aviation's first responders and our sister 
unions representing other aviation workers.
    The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act was an incredibly 
important step forward in addressing decades of missed 
opportunities in shoring up our national aviation system. We 
applaud this committee on your efforts to get it passed and 
implemented, and we commend Secretary Duffy on his plans to 
supercharge staffing and modernization.
    With deep respect for the families of PSA Flight 5342 and 
PAT 25 and lives lost in aviation tragedies in the past, we 
must always put safety and security first and redouble efforts 
to plug holes and mitigate risks in the system. Safety first, 
always.
    But aviation is also critical for our entire economy and 
connectivity across the country and around the world.
    My written testimony addresses our safety priorities in the 
law and the status of implementation, including important 
workplace safety that also affects passengers: contaminated 
recirculated air, temperature standards, ramp safety, radiation 
exposure, flight deck secondary barriers, standards for good 
jobs in aviation, mitigating cybersecurity risks, and 
addressing issues with disruptive passengers.
    With the exception of the work by the National Academy of 
Sciences, much of this has been delayed or sidelined by this 
administration's actions to disband safety advisory committees 
and rulemaking committees.
    But we are also very concerned that actions to fire 
probationary Federal workers, implement the Deferred 
Resignation Program, put in place hiring freezes, and put in 
jeopardy Federal worker pensions and healthcare with budget 
cuts that come from the bottom to give massive tax cuts to the 
rich who do not need it undermine the work of this committee 
and the diligent efforts of the Secretary to shore up our 
national aviation system.
    The Wall Street Journal published an article recently that 
highlights concern over staff departures that could affect, 
quote, ``the processing of medical clearances for pilots and 
air traffic controllers, work on runway safety, and the pace of 
licensing in the agency's commercial space offices.''
    We are also getting direct reports that the loss of 
employees that support the frontline safety professionals is 
taking a toll as HR and security screeners at the FAA have 
taken the Deferred Resignation Program, and this is slowing the 
hiring process, directly harming the focus of this committee 
and Secretary Duffy's plans to supercharge the changes we need.
    Every worker at the FAA contributes to safety, whether 
deemed essential or not. The staffing cuts, disruptions, and 
distractions to the safety work of those who maintain and 
enforce the standards of our aviation system is simply 
unacceptable.
    It is also important to recognize that other agencies 
contribute significantly to aviation safety, including the 
National Weather Service, NIOSH, and USAID. The cuts to these 
agencies and personnel are directly undermining efforts to get 
the information and structure we need to keep us safe in all 
airspace, on the ground around the world, and able to keep 
threats to our safety such as Ebola or other communicable 
disease from being spread throughout and by our aviation 
system. DOGE should not be allowed to undermine safety in the 
name of efficiency.
    As aviation's first responders, we are charged with the 
safety, health, and security of all passengers and crew on our 
flight, and we promise our own families that we will come home 
safely, too. Aviation safety is personal to us, just as it is 
for tens of thousands of Federal workers who take part in 
helping us keep the promise to our families and our loved ones 
in our care.
    It is the product of hundreds of thousands of workers, from 
engineers to mechanics to safety inspectors, security officers, 
pilots, gate agents, baggage handlers, flight attendants, and 
air traffic controllers, asking all day long, ``Is it safe?''
    We ask this question with the information we have from 
tragic moments of gaps in safety and promises to the memory of 
those we have lost and the families with whom we grieve that it 
will never happen again. This starts with supporting a thorough 
investigation, continues with advocacy for reform, and lives 
forever in our repeated analysis all day long, ``Is it safe?''
    Aviation is the safest mode of transportation because we 
demand it, and we built a system that allows us to predict 
risk, produce redundancies, and fill holes to keep tragedy at 
bay. The FAA holds the statutory mandate to ensure the highest 
degree of aviation safety.
    Our industry has been through many ups and downs. We cannot 
control the weather, but we can commit to steady funding; no 
shutdowns; the highest standards; broad recruitment, including 
the promise of good, steady jobs; and working with the people 
on the front lines who know the system best, how to fix it, 
what it lacks, and what it needs.
    We applaud and support the subcommittee's focus on the 
safest, most efficient National Airspace System in the world. 
We are committed to fulfilling this mission with you and all of 
our partners in aviation safety, health, and security.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [Ms. Nelson's prepared statement follows:]

                                 
Prepared Statement of Sara Nelson, International President, Association 
                   of Flight Attendants--CWA, AFL-CIO
    Chair Nehls, Ranking Member Cohen, Chair Graves, Ranking Member 
Larsen, and members of the Subcommittee, we are grateful for the 
opportunity to testify with the perspective of aviation's first 
responders and our sister unions representing other aviation workers.
    The safety and efficiency of our nation's Air Traffic Control (ATC) 
system are vitally important to Flight Attendants. We count on the 
highly trained experts who guide our flights through safe departure, 
cruise altitude, and landing. As aviation's first responders, we are 
charged with the safety, health, and security of all passengers and 
crew on our flight and we promise our own families that we will come 
home safely, too. Aviation safety is personal to us, just as it is for 
tens of thousands of federal workers who take part in helping us keep 
the promise to our families and loved ones in our care.
    Aviation safety is the product of hundreds of thousands of 
workers--from engineers to mechanics to safety inspectors, security 
officers, pilots, gate agents, baggage handlers, flight attendants, and 
air traffic controllers--asking all day long, ``Is it safe?'' We ask 
this question with the information we have from tragic moments of gaps 
in safety and promises to the memory of those we've lost, and the 
families with whom we grieve, that it will never happen again. This 
starts with supporting a thorough investigation, continues with 
advocacy for reform, and lives forever in our repeated analysis all day 
long--``Is it safe?''
    Aviation is the safest mode of transportation because we demand it, 
and we built a system that allows us to predict risk, produce 
redundancies, and fill holes to keep tragedy at bay. The FAA holds the 
statutory mandate to ensure the highest degree of aviation safety. We 
support the efforts of the House Aviation Subcommittee to provide 
critical oversight and demand for implementation of plans to recruit, 
train, and staff while modernizing and rebuilding the infrastructure 
necessary to fully staff and resource the experts on the frontlines who 
guide our planes safely. Earlier this year, our union signed a letter 
with groups representing the entire aviation industry stating, ``we are 
aligned on not pursuing privatization of U.S. air traffic control 
services and believe it would be a distraction from these needed 
investments and reforms.''
 As safety professionals, our training teaches that the first rule in 
                  safety is to remove all distractions
    Our industry has been through many ups and downs. We cannot control 
the weather, but we can commit to steady funding, no shutdowns, the 
highest standards, broad recruitment including: the promise of good, 
steady jobs, and working with the people on the frontlines who know the 
system best, how to fix it, what it lacks, and what it needs. The 
voices of the professionals represented by the National Air Traffic 
Controllers Association (NATCA) and the Professional Aviation Safety 
Specialists (PASS) are critically important to plan and properly 
implement modernization, recruitment, and training. Listen to them and 
engage them consistently.
    Aviation is safe due to the work of those you see on the frontlines 
and every person doing work in support of those jobs. FAA specialists 
are responsible for repairing air traffic control facilities and 
updating digital maps for pilots. Meteorologists provide critical 
reports that help navigate safe flights and avoid the dangers of 
turbulence that range in harm from air sickness and coffee burns to 
serious injury and even death. Recent layoffs and firings within our 
federal workforce introduce unnecessary risk and stress that distract 
from the mission of ensuring safe flight for both civil and military 
operations. Chaotic workplaces harm recruitment, training, and 
retention of critical personnel. The 35-day government shutdown of 2019 
and all the short-term funding bills or continued resolutions harmed 
staffing, recruitment, training, retention, facility maintenance, and 
modernization. Do everything in your power to avoid these disruptions 
and distractions going forward.
    We applaud and support this Subcommittee's focus on the safest, 
most efficient National Airspace System in the world. Safety and 
security don't just happen. It is the product of our collective mission 
to make it happen. We encourage you to continue to look to the experts 
on the frontlines, promote sufficient and steady funding to staff, 
maintain, and modernize our workplace. The Association of Flight 
Attendants-CWA is committed to fulfilling this mission with you and all 
our partners in aviation safety, health, and security.
       An Update on the Priorities of our Union in the 2024 FAA 
                      Reauthorization Act of 2024
Sec. 321. Turbulence Related Injuries
    By 2026, the FAA is instructed to review the recommendations by the 
NTSB to enact, as appropriate, these recommendations. Turbulence is a 
serious workplace safety threat for Flight Attendants with severe and 
long-term injuries. We do not have a status report on the progress of 
this instruction from Congress, and we urge this Committee to press the 
FAA to take action on this serious safety issue.
Sec. 322. Radiation Exposure
    The bill directs the Secretary to work with the National Academy of 
Sciences to conduct a study on radiation exposure to crewmembers on 
board aircraft types across commercial aviation. While crews are 
classified as radiation workers, we are not offered any education or 
pregnancy protections. A Harvard Flight Attendant Health Study \1\ has 
already indicated radiation contributes to a broad range of health 
impacts, including fertility and viability of pregnancies. There are 
examples from other countries where education and alerts are regulated, 
especially as it relates to pregnancy. We do not have any evidence of 
action on this section of the law, but we would welcome the NAS study 
into suitable radiation protections.
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Sec. 323. Study on Impacts of Temperature In Aircraft Cabins
    The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine has 
begun its mandated ``1-year study on the health and safety impacts of 
unsafe cabin temperature with respect to passengers and crewmembers 
during each season in which the study is conducted.'' The kickoff 
meeting has been conducted, and the study findings are expected by May 
2026, including ``a short consensus report with its findings and 
conclusions, and, as appropriate, recommendations to inform strategies 
for monitoring, assessing, and managing passenger cabin air temperature 
levels and any associated health and safety impacts.'' This is progress 
in terms of implementing the direction of Congress, but our union 
continues to encourage regulators, airlines, airports, and unions to 
work together to implement temperature standards in order to mitigate 
the potential for serious risk to passengers and crew.
Sec. 350. Secondary Cockpit Barriers
    This issue is a longtime priority of our union. AFA is serving on 
the rulemaking committee, and a final report from the committee is 
expected to be issued to the FAA this month.
Sec. 353. Ramp Safety Language
    The FAA Reauthorization of 2024 includes a Call-to-Action safety 
review of ramp worker safety, which requires the FAA to assess safety 
on the ramp and report to Congress on results and any recommendations 
for action. As a crucial first step, the FAA recently convened an 
aviation stakeholder forum, the Ramp Safety Forum, to foster 
collaboration and enhance safety practices within the industry.
    While this initial convening was positive, ongoing engagement and 
more substantive action are necessary, particularly with labor 
representatives and frontline workers. Significant training challenges 
persist for ramp workers, including: insufficient investment in 
training, high turnover, rapid onboarding, and redundant and 
ineffective recurrent training.
    Moving forward, the FAA must proactively address the inherent 
hazards faced by ramp workers and continue to convene diverse 
stakeholders for further dialogue and action. Key areas for immediate 
attention include:
      Reassess staffing: One critical role per tower agent
      Conduct risk assessment on multitasking in tower 
operations
      Review ramp task scheduling for realistic task times
      Avoid overlapping assignments and rushed transitions
      Provide more extensive training for allocators
      Balance safety and efficiency through collaboration with 
safety teams and management
Sec. 362. Cabin Air Safety
    This section of the law requires the FAA to finish the study in the 
2018 FAA Reauthorization Act on bleed air in six months, develop a 
reporting system for smoke or fume events onboard commercial aircraft 
within 180 days, and by 2027, conduct a study and issue recommendations 
pertaining to cabin air quality and any risk of, and potential for, 
persistent and accidental fume or smoke events onboard a passenger-
carrying aircraft operating. Finally, the law instructs the FAA to do a 
rulemaking one year after the study to address the safety risks 
identified.
    The urgency of moving forward on this language cannot be 
understated, and to date, we have not seen movement on this issue. The 
safety risks are already well defined. Crews and passengers continue to 
experience the effects of contaminated bleed air with symptoms that 
range from fatigue, headaches, and nausea to long-term cognitive 
impacts that have ended careers and permanently altered health and 
quality of life. We look forward to working with members of Congress 
and this Subcommittee, who also are exposed to re-circulated cabin air 
when commuting to work, to ensure the air we breathe is safe.
Sec. 365. Modernization and Improvements to Aircraft Evacuation
    Our aircraft cabins have become tighter than ever with smaller and 
closer seats, reduced staffing, and new complications including 
electronics, cords, and lithium-ion batteries. Currently, the standards 
for certification of aircraft configuration are determined based on 
out-of-date data. The Administrator was directed to conduct a study on 
``improvements to the safety and efficiency of evacuation standards for 
manufacturers and carriers.'' We expect the report from the National 
Academy of Sciences soon. But we encourage this Subcommittee to do more 
on this issue and urge the FAA to update certification standards for 
safe evacuation of all of the variety of people who fly on our planes.
Sec. 367. Mandated contents of Emergency Medical Kit (EMK)
    This section directed the FAA to issue a notice of proposed 
rulemaking to update the EMK contents and training necessary for crews. 
A working group started to address this issue, but DOGE disbanded it. 
As aviation's first responders, charged with the safety, health, and 
security of those in our care, we cannot overstate how concerning this 
is. Without the proper tools to save lives in the air, passengers and 
crew are at risk due to the time it takes to safely get to ground for 
medical response. We urge this Subcommittee to follow up on this and 
ensure DOGE is not in the name of ``efficiency'' undermining safety.
Sec. 395. Aviation Cybersecurity
    Not later than one year after passage of the bill, the 
Administrator shall convene an aviation rulemaking committee on civil 
aircraft cybersecurity. We do not have an update on the status of this 
rulemaking, nor actions to begin efforts on this section of the law. 
Our union emphasizes the importance of identifying potential threats 
and establishing standards to mitigate them.
Sec. 421. Crewmember Pumping Guidance
    Workers across the economy have the right to express milk at work 
with the means and privacy to do so. Crewmembers, Flight Attendants, 
and Pilots do not have the same assurances. Clear guidelines are 
necessary to ensure safety of flight and proper crew coordination. The 
FAA has issued guidance,\2\ but it does not provide guidance for crews 
working in the cabin, with the exception that ``pumping crewmembers can 
use cloth nursing covers to maintain some privacy and that `wearable 
technology' exists.'' This does nothing to address the crew 
coordination, privacy, health insurance coverage for ``wearable 
technology,'' or suggested location for pumping. We are concerned this 
does not address the concerns related to the health of the infant or 
crewmember.
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Sec. 427. Crewmember Self-Defense Training
    Since September 11, 2001, the importance of crew member self-
defense training has been identified as critical for national security, 
and the need for these trained skills has only become more acute as 
crews have experienced violent attacks from disruptive passengers. The 
Federal Air Marshals conduct a voluntary program, with authorization 
and funding appropriated by Congress. The 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act 
included instructions to create clear standards for the training and 
more readily available and accessible to crew members, including 
lodging accommodations which removes an economic barrier to attending 
the training. However, this administration disbanded multiple federal 
advisory committees, including the ASAC. The participants included 
stakeholders from across the industry with three decades of experience 
in safety and security advisory by seasoned participants. This is just 
one small example of the security work not taking place due to the 
dismantling of this committee. And it may be one small example, but it 
is no small thing to aviation's first responders who have experienced 
broken limbs, knocked out teeth, head trauma, and persistent threats 
with nowhere to turn in our confined workspace. DHS is now evaluating 
whether to form a new ASAC committee, and we urge this Subcommittee to 
press DHS for swift reinstatement with representation from stakeholders 
across aviation, as was the case for more than three decades.
Sec. 432. Deterring Crewmember Interference
    The law called for the Administrator to convene a task force within 
120 days ``to develop voluntary standards and best practices relating 
to suspected violations of the law against interfering with a crew 
member.'' After the bill's passage, the FAA Administrator determined 
that it would be best to conduct this work through the TSA Aviation 
Security Advisory Committee (ASAC). The TSA Aviation Security Advisory 
Committee (ASAC) had been tasked to work on this issue, but again, this 
administration disbanded the committee. In the meantime, this section 
of the law remains in limbo as well.
Sec. 434 and 435. Employee Assault Prevention and Response Plan 
        Standards
    Within 90 days, the FAA was directed to provide a briefing to 
Congress on the submission of practices by each carrier. Within 180 
days, passenger carriers are directed to work with labor unions 
representing frontline personnel on a formal policy with respect to 
sexual assault or harassment incidents. It is unclear whether there has 
been any progress on this direction from Congress.
Sec. 438. Airport Service Workforce Analysis--GJGA Language
    Airport service workers are the foundation of our air travel 
system. The very people who keep our world moving are, too often, the 
very same workers who are denied a decent wage and benefits like paid 
time off or affordable healthcare, leaving them unable to support their 
families or pay the bills. Because of these conditions, turnover 
remains a huge concern in this workforce. That's why across labor, we 
support standards like the previously introduced ``Good Jobs for Good 
Airports'' legislation, which would ensure every aviation worker is 
paid a fair wage with health care and paid time off, including airport 
service workers. These standards result in lower turnover and more 
highly trained aviation workers, which in turn make airports safer for 
everyone.
    ATC Infrastructure and Staffing Warnings at Newark Were Overdue
    A month ago, stories broke about the failure of equipment at Philly 
TRACON, significantly affecting commercial travel at Newark Liberty 
International Airport (EWR). These failures immediately sparked public 
concern about aviation safety at Newark, as passengers and crews 
experienced significant delays and cancellations. Our union released 
the following statement on May 2, 2025:

        ``This afternoon a story broke about safety concerns related to 
        the air traffic at Newark. NATCA, the air traffic controllers' 
        union, has warned for decades that infrastructure must be 
        rebuilt and modernized. Our air traffic controllers are the 
        best in the world and they are making sure aviation stays safe. 
        We support every effort to secure the funding necessary to 
        staff up and provide the resources that are a decade overdue 
        for our air traffic controllers to be able to do their jobs. We 
        call on all airlines operating out of Newark to cut planned 
        flights at an equal percentage across airlines in order to 
        support this work, aviation safety, and our jobs. Working 
        together we can solve the problem faster and keep everyone 
        safe.''

    It is worth noting that our air traffic controllers also manage 
Teterboro Airport (TEB), Morristown Municipal Airport (MMU), Essex 
County Airport (CDW), Linden Airport (LDJ), which should be part of the 
conversation about capacity controls while Secretary Duffy works with 
all constituencies on short term and long term plans to fix and 
modernize equipment and infrastructure, and support the actions 
necessary to increase to staffing.
          Help Stop Harmful Cuts and Distractions from Safety
DOGE Cuts Put Accurate Weather Forecasts at Risk
    The National Weather Service (NWS) oversees a network of offices 
that provide forecasts, advisories, and warnings in support of aviation 
safety across the United States and its territories. Weather Forecast 
Offices, with 122 locations across the US, issue public warnings for 
things like thunderstorms and provide the Terminal Aerodrome Forecast 
(TAF) for airports.
    These reports forecast meteorological conditions within a 5-mile 
radius of an airport over a 24- to 30-hour timeframe. These takeoff and 
landing condition forecasts are essential for safety because they 
predict low clouds, visibility, wind, low-level wind shear, and 
weather. This information is essential to set appropriate fuel levels, 
create flight plans, and mitigate takeoff and landing risks. 
Additionally, the Aviation Weather Center in Kansas City issues ICAO 
products across the US for en-route forecasts. This helps pilots and 
air traffic controllers mitigate turbulence, icing, and storms that 
aircraft may encounter. NWS meteorologists are co-located at the Air 
Traffic Control System Command Center (ATCSCC) and 21 Air Route Traffic 
Control Centers (ARTCC) across the country. They notify the FAA of 
hazards that may impact flights in the ARTCC airspace or on the ground. 
When conditions are dangerous, they can even work side by side with a 
controller to tell them when it's safe to move traffic around hazards 
like thunderstorms. These positions are supposed to be staffed 16 hours 
a day, 7 days a week, but cutbacks and firings led by Elon Musk and 
DOGE have created major staffing problems across the system.
    Drastic cuts and hiring freezes at NWS threaten aviation safety. In 
the last few months, 600 workers were let go or took early 
retirements--that's 12 percent of NWS staff. These sudden and draconian 
cutbacks undermine the accuracy of forecasts and the agency's ability 
to share this essential information to the American public. The NWS 
Center Weather Service Unit in Oakland, California is now down to one 
meteorologist rather than the four that are needed to fully staff the 
facility, and the Trump Administration's hiring freeze means they can't 
bring on new staff to fix the problem. At the System Command Center in 
Warrenton, Virginia, there is one meteorologist vacancy out of a six-
person staff. The NWS Alaska Center Weather Service Unit is down to 
three Weather Service staff, which puts significant pressure across a 
state where general aviation is extremely important to daily travel by 
residents and tourists alike. The NWS Boston Center Weather Service 
Unit has lost a manager and a meteorologist, leaving two meteorologists 
to staff the facility 16 hours a day, 7 days a week. To its credit, the 
NWS has developed temporary workarounds, including having nearby Center 
Weather Service Unit staff support shorthanded facilities. Still, these 
are just short-term patches that do not offer a reliable solution for 
the industry.
    I urge members of this Subcommittee to identify where there are 
open positions in the aviation system. Are the ARTCCs and the System 
Command Center all fully staffed by NWS staff? What's the status of NWS 
hiring for these positions? We need to be fully briefed on whether 
airline workers are getting the essential weather information they 
need. And it's also time to lift the draconian hiring freeze so that 
NWS can ensure that flight crews and passengers are protected by the 
most up-to-date and accurate forecasts possible.
 Cuts to Public and Occupational Health Infrastructure Here and Abroad 
        Put Flight Attendants and Other Critical Workers at Risk
National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH)
    The AFA is gravely concerned about the degradation of our nation's 
public health infrastructure resulting from the Administration's cost-
cutting efforts. The Administration's attempt to effectively eliminate 
the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) 
devalues our nation's workers. These cuts put the health and safety of 
flight attendants and other essential workers at risk.
    And why must these workers bear this risk? To pay for more tax cuts 
for the ultra-rich. This shift away from the needs of working people to 
benefit the few is unconscionable. It is tearing at the social fabric 
of our country and must stop.
    Here is a sample of some of the programs that have been eliminated 
or effectively gutted through staffing cuts:
      NIOSH's Health Hazard Evaluation (HHE) program gives 
employers and workers an opportunity to request technical assistance to 
investigate and understand complex health hazards in the workplace. 
NIOSH and this program have helped Flight Attendants by detecting toxic 
chemicals in uniforms and evaluating hazards like noise levels and jet 
fumes in aircraft cabins. NIOSH has studied prolonged radiation 
exposure to flight crews and assisted the industry in addressing 
ergonomic issues. The HHE program relies on world-class subject matter 
experts and testing facilities that can address a range of issues. Most 
of these experts and facilities currently sit idle.

      The Administration is eliminating NIOSH programs that 
have provided the airline industry with critical guidance on preventing 
the spread of infectious disease, including pathogens like the measles 
that present a public health risk, as well as chemical and heat 
hazards.

      Flight Attendants, who have above-average injury rates, 
benefit from NIOSH's Musculoskeletal Health Program, which helps the 
industry reduce soft-tissue injuries. The Center for Work and Fatigue 
Research has helped our union better understand and address health and 
safety risks from non-standard work schedules common in the airline 
industry. These programs are no longer staffed.

      This Administration has also abandoned programs of 
applied science that have demonstrably improved the lives of workers in 
high-hazard industries such as farming, commercial fishing, and oil and 
gas extraction. These programs must be reinstated.

      The country will also lose its pipeline of future 
occupational health experts if the Administration proceeds with the 
elimination of NIOSH's 18 Education and Research Centers, which train 
graduate and post-graduate students and conduct critical research and 
occupational health and safety. Recent areas of research include safety 
during hurricane recovery, oil spill cleanup, and protecting healthcare 
workers during outbreaks like Ebola and influenza.

    There are some programs that have been partially reinstated under 
public pressure, but their future remains unclear:
      NIOSH administers the Firefighters Cancer Registry. It 
was shocking to hear that the Administration would no longer collect 
health and occupational information to help us understand cancer risks 
among firefighters, especially at a time when firefighter response to 
wildland and wildland-urban interface fires is at an all-time high.

      Coal miners rely on NIOSH research and their extensive 
surveillance programs to support miners' health. While some of the 
staff doing this critical work has been recalled to work, the future of 
some of this work is also unclear. We owe it to the nation's miners to 
fully ensure their health and safety through continued research by 
NIOSH to improve the lives of both retired and working miners.

      Another program with an unclear future is the World Trade 
Center Program, monitoring and addressing occupational diseases of 
first responders and construction workers who were at Ground Zero, 
supporting our nation's recovery from the attacks on 9/11. The 
Administration needs to be transparent with the country in assuring 
that the work we owe these heroes will continue.
                                 USAID
    The health and safety risks to Flight Attendants are not limited to 
our borders. A substantial number of AFA's members work 
internationally. Working with public health agencies, airlines are one 
of the first lines of defense in this country in ensuring the 
containment of highly contagious pathogens carried by international 
travelers.
    However, with the Administration's decision to effectively 
eliminate the United States Agency for International Development 
(USAID), nations throughout the world are losing the capacity for \3\ 
basic public health functions like health surveillance programs, early 
detection and containment of infectious disease like Ebola, and even 
basic public health prevention like vaccination programs and 
elimination of waterborne illnesses.
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    This is a tragedy for the world. By one estimate from researchers 
at Boston University School of Public Health, these cuts have already 
resulted in over 99,000 adult deaths and over 200,000 child deaths 
globally. In addition to mourning this loss of life, we are deeply 
concerned that our nation will be repaid for the shortsightedness of 
eliminating these programs with more and more incidents of dangerous 
diseases on our aircraft, in our airports, and eventually in our 
communities. It is simply a matter of time before we feel the 
implications of this tragic mistake.
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of Global Health, USAID, Senate Roundtable on the Dangerous 
Consequences of Funding Cuts to U.S. Global Health Programs (April 1, 
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      A 50-nation network of surveillance to detect deadly 
diseases such as bird flu and swine fever
      An emergency response system that could respond to deadly 
disease outbreaks in 48 hours
      Programs that reduced or controlled infections from 
tuberculosis and measles, both of which are now more likely to enter 
our country through airports of entry.

    Fighting Ebola, or measles, or Mpox overseas is not only a moral 
responsibility, but also a strategic, smart approach that benefits 
Americans by reducing the risk of future deadly outbreaks and pandemics 
here at home. On behalf of more than 50,000 AFA Flight Attendants, I 
urge Congress and the Administration to act immediately to restore 
funding and staffing to NIOSH and USAID, in particular its critical 
life-saving and public health programs.
       Stop Staffing Cuts and Threats to Federal Worker Benefits
    The WSJ published an article recently that highlights an FAA 
presentation expressing concern over staff departures that could affect 
``the processing of medical clearances for pilots and air-traffic 
controllers, work on runway safety, and the pace of licensing in the 
agency's commercial-space offices.'' \5\ Every worker at the FAA 
contributes to safety, whether deemed ``essential'' or not. The 
staffing cuts, disruptions, and distractions to the safety work of 
those who maintain and enforce the standards of our aviation system is 
simply unacceptable. We know this Subcommittee is committed to safety 
and a thriving aviation industry. We applaud the passage of the 2024 
FAA Reauthorization Act, and encourage the effort that went into 
passage to flow directly to the efforts that are necessary today to 
keep our aviation system the safest in the world.
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                                Closing
    It is an honor to work with each of you, to have you fly with us in 
our workplace, to protect the system that serves as the backbone of our 
economy, and to work with the urgency necessary to honor the lives lost 
like those on PSA Flight 5342. It is in their name, and the names of 
those we will keep from saying by our diligent actions together, that 
we recommit ourselves to aviation safety every day. Thank you.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Ms. Nelson.
    And thank you all for your testimony.
    We will now turn to questions for the panel. I will 
recognize myself.
    Mr. Bolen, certification delays of business aircraft. 
Business aircraft have long been a concern, particularly with 
the introduction of new technologies such as advanced air 
mobility.
    Do you believe that the FAA is progressing in modernizing 
and streamlining its certification process, as required in our 
reauthorization of 2024?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, as you know, the reauthorization bill did 
require some certification reforms, helped digitize a lot of 
the work that is being done. And, certainly, the signing of the 
SFAR last October provided the enabling regulation to be able 
to start those operations.
    I think we are very interested in seeing the first advanced 
air mobility aircraft certified potentially as early as the end 
of this year, maybe early next year, and beginning operations. 
A number of very exciting demonstration programs have been 
launched, and I think we feel very encouraged about ushering in 
this new era of aviation.
    Mr. Nehls. Have the delays impacted innovation in your 
sector?
    Mr. Bolen. I think there is always a critical balance when 
technologies are coming forward, but I think there is a growing 
recognition that innovation and technology makes us safer and 
that safety delayed is not a way for us to promote safety. So I 
think we are on track on focusing on making these things 
happen.
    Mr. Nehls. Very well.
    Last month, I introduced the Supersonic Aviation 
Modernization Act, which I firmly believe will foster aviation 
innovation across America.
    As you know, my bill would direct the FAA to revise and 
issue regulations that permit civil supersonic flights in the 
national airspace, so as long as no boom, no supersonic boom, 
breaks grandma's window on the ground, right? It won't reach 
the ground.
    Could you explain why it is critically important for the 
FAA to revise the current 1973--you weren't even born in 1973, 
were you [to Representative Cohen]?
    Mr. Cohen. I was a graduate.
    Mr. Bolen. Well, the----
    Mr. Nehls [interrupting]. That prohibits nonmilitary--I 
mean, this is----
    Mr. Bolen [interposing]. Right.
    Mr. Nehls [continuing]. We are talking about nonmilitary 
flights----
    Mr. Bolen [interposing]. Right.
    Mr. Nehls [continuing]. Over the United States.
    Mr. Bolen. Yes. The 1973 law, as you know, was based on the 
technology that was understood at that time.
    Mr. Nehls. Sure.
    Mr. Bolen. And huge amounts of research and development by 
private companies, by NASA and others have really changed that 
technology.
    Mr. Nehls. Yes.
    Mr. Bolen. You are well aware of the Boom flight that has 
been able to go without creating that type of sonic boom that 
was so prevalent in 1973.
    We all know that what aircraft do is connect people. And 
they are time machines. And so I think our advancements through 
the years have been focused on flying farther, flying safer, 
flying faster, and flying more sustainably.
    Mr. Nehls. I firmly believe that by the FAA establishing a 
clear, science- and evidence-based framework for civil 
supersonic aviation, while ensuring no noise, safety, or 
environmental concerns, we will allow American industry to 
innovate and maintain leadership in global aviation policy.
    I appreciate NBAA's support of my legislation, so thank you 
for that. I look forward to working with you to get this 
legislation through Congress.
    Ms. Nelson, 55,000 flight attendants over 20 airlines. I 
was reviewing your written testimony. I think there are several 
sections, probably 12, 14 of them, that are priorities for your 
union.
    Section 321 deals with turbulence-related injuries.
    I think section 323 deals with the temperature. I think 
that is in progress. The FAA is working on that.
    The cockpit secondary barriers, I believe that is in 
progress as well.
    Section 432, the crewmember interference, I think that is a 
concern for everybody.
    I mean, what we are seeing with section 434, too, with 
employee assaults, that is complete, is my understanding. That 
section is complete, with dealing with the employee assault 
precautions.
    Is that not in--how are you doing? How do you feel the FAA 
is responding to some of the priorities that you have that were 
in our FAA reauthorization?
    Ms. Nelson. So we have issues here, because the issues that 
deal with security were generally referred to ASAC, which was 
the committee that was disbanded. It had been in place since 
the Pan Am flight crash of over 30 years ago.
    Mr. Nehls. Mm-hmm.
    Ms. Nelson. And so, much of that work around the security 
issues has been set aside because that committee is no longer 
in place.
    Now, we understand that there are efforts to reestablish 
it. We are looking forward to that very much. And we hope that 
it will continue to be representative from across the entire 
aviation industry. We think it was a very important committee 
that provided a lot of important work for our security.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you. Thank you so much.
    I will now recognize the ranking member for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Ms. Nelson, I will continue with you. How do you feel about 
this proposal or this concern of the safety of flight 
attendants and interactions with unruly passengers being sent 
to a committee that hasn't [sic] existed since Pan American 
airlines was around, which I recall?
    Ms. Nelson. I hope that I heard you correctly, but this is 
a concern. We need real focus on disruptive passengers.
    And as our flights are fuller than ever and our staffing is 
at minimums, it is very, very difficult for flight attendants 
to get to the source of a conflict and deescalate with our 
skills. Oftentimes that rises up, and we have had concussions 
and broken teeth and all kinds of problems because we don't 
have enough focus on trying to keep those disruptive passengers 
from getting back on our planes again and coordinating that 
information across the industry.
    Mr. Cohen. I don't recall these incidents occurring more 
than 5, 6, 7, 8 years ago. Has it been more of a--is it a more 
modern problem, current problem, than in the past?
    Ms. Nelson. In fairness, Congressman, we were working on 
issues of air rage in the 1990s, and we got some of those first 
fines and jail time in the bill in 2000.
    But we are seeing this at a rate that we have never seen 
before. So you are correct that we are seeing this at a higher 
rate.
    Part of that has to do with the conditions on our planes, 
that people are jammed in together. There are a lot more 
bodies; there is a lot less space to move around. People come a 
little upset because they have smaller seats, no place to put 
their bags, and sometimes their bags are taken from them.
    And so there are a lot of stressors that are added to our 
environment. You add in, in addition to that, alcohol, and it 
is a recipe for real problems up in the air and even during the 
boarding process.
    Mr. Cohen. Let me follow up on the idea of smaller seats 
and less room to move and being crammed in: the EVAC Act, which 
is something I have been working on for years and has passed, 
but it has never quite been implemented because they don't give 
a representative census of the population of an aircraft. 
Seniors and people with disabilities and youngsters aren't 
included.
    How do you feel like the FAA is doing on getting that 
reform to see to it that the test that they do to see if the 
90-second rule can apply is being carried forth?
    Ms. Nelson. We are working on getting the study, but this 
has been a direction from the 2018 bill that we are trying to 
continue to press the FAA to move on. And we are still working 
with outdated data in certifying evacuation standards for the 
aircraft. And that is leading to cabins that are jampacked and 
conditions that do not recognize, as you said, the population 
that we have today.
    We have a larger population; people are generally larger 
today. We have people--our airplanes are open to everyone, so 
we have passengers with disabilities, we have young children. 
And none of this is factored in in the evacuation standards.
    So both the human factors and also the size of the seats 
and how close they are together, that is not taken into 
consideration for those evacuation standards today, and that 
needs desperately to be updated.
    Mr. Cohen. Do flight attendants get any training on people 
with specific and medical conditions, like people with autism, 
and how you would deal with them in a situation where you had a 
crash?
    Ms. Nelson. Are we getting training on that?
    Mr. Cohen. Yes.
    Ms. Nelson. Not directly on that. It is mentioned in our 
training, but we do not have direct and specific training on 
that.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you very much.
    Captain Reven, your testimony highlights the need to 
modernize the system. What should the FAA do first to tackle 
the problems in the system and to reduce risks in the National 
Airspace System?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Ranking Member 
Cohen.
    I think what we are doing is a very good approach. I like 
what was in the bill.
    One of the biggest things that we talk about is one level 
of safety and one level of security so that our traveling 
public is safe. And we were pleased to see in the bill removal 
of the loophole that allowed part 135 operators to sell 121 
tickets.
    Also, I think what we have done in security and safety with 
the ground markings, with the ADS-B, with RAAS, it is a good 
first step.
    Mr. Cohen. My time is about out. I do want to ask you this. 
As a pilot, do you see any problems in the relationship with 
pilots and co-pilots in guiding an airplane safely? Are there 
any interactions that you find to be difficult? Or is that 
dealt with in training, too?
    Mr. Reven. So I think we deal with three or four 
generations sometimes in a seniority list, and we work through 
those issues. We are trained very well. We have yearly 
discussions about that. Cockpit resource management is of the 
upmost.
    We have professional aviators out there that--the Midway 
incident is a great teamwork type of example, where a captain 
is very focused on landing on a short runway and the first 
officer is watching an evolving situation. Frankly, jumped in 
and saved the day. So they worked well together up there.
    Regardless, we have a very standardized procedure so that 
every person that shows up and flies with me in the right seat 
as the singular model on what he is thinking is going to take 
place in the cockpit, how we run checklists, et cetera. So, not 
a lot of problems.
    Mr. Cohen. So you, as a 737 pilot, realize that pilots and 
co-pilots do work together and that is not a problem in 
aviation.
    Mr. Reven. Absolutely true. We absolutely----
    Mr. Cohen [interrupting]. Thank you.
    Mr. Reven [continuing]. Rely on each other.
    Mr. Cohen. If the Chair would give me just one more second 
or minute.
    Mr. Robbins, you are the president of Association for 
Uncrewed Vehicle Systems International. Now, as he mentioned 
[indicating Representative Nehls], 1973, I was around; 1973, we 
wouldn't have had an Association for Uncrewed Vehicle Systems 
International, I don't think.
    Mr. Robbins. It was the year we were founded, actually.
    Mr. Cohen. Was it?
    Mr. Robbins. Yes.
    Mr. Cohen. The only thing I remember then was, you would 
put some water in a cylinder and you would pull it back and it 
flew. And that was in your yard. You have come a long way.
    Mr. Robbins. We have.
    Mr. Cohen. Ukraine had a big week with drones. Are drones 
becoming the most significant military vehicle for the future 
in this world? And do you have members in your organization 
that are working on drones as weapons?
    Mr. Robbins. Yes, sir. Thank you very much for that 
question.
    I believe that we do have a number of members--we are both 
a commercial and defense trade association--we do have a number 
of our member companies that are working on various forms of 
military UAVs, whether that is for ISR or weaponization or 
contested logistics.
    So, certainly, the future of military is autonomous. 
Ultimately, robots don't bleed. And it has been clear from the 
higher echelons throughout the Department of Defense that 
moving towards more autonomous systems not only extends our 
operational reach, it also ensures we are protecting our 
warfighters.
    So, yes, the future of our military is autonomous, sir.
    Mr. Cohen. Thank you, sir.
    And thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Perry for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Perry. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Pleasance, I am going to turn to you for some 
questions. Just to lead up to them, as you note in your 
testimony, ``For 86 years, AOPA has stayed true to its mission 
of protecting the freedom to fly . . . Guiding, protecting, and 
promoting this uniquely American experience, so we can pass it 
along, better than we received it, to the next generation of 
aviators.''
    And with that in mind, I think now is probably the most 
important time for AOPA's mission and its criticality. As I 
describe, left-wing activists seeking to destroy the ability of 
folks in the United States to travel as they see fit and to 
exercise their freedom in private aviation.
    And with that in mind, there are efforts being made 
regarding aviation fuel, to seek to make it prohibitively 
expensive in this mindless pursuit for sustainable aviation 
fuels.
    We have not only attempted to subsidize SAFs--that goes 
back to the Obama administration. We have done that. Among 
other things, it establishes a Government-created market for 
ethanol under the guise of environmentalism. And then, of 
course, we have to have the jobs that--they just have to 
continue for the new market that was created, this Soviet-style 
program.
    The tax credits are $1.25 per gallon, up to a $1.75. And 
after this January, now we have a production tax credit for 35 
cents a gallon as the base, up to a $1.75.
    And beyond that grift, there is another grift in the IRA, 
which created a $250 million competitive grant program for the 
blending, storage, transportation, et cetera, of FAST, Fueling 
Aviation's Sustainable Transition.
    We have a long history and a sordid history of subsidies. 
But even after all this, it accounts for 0.3 percent--0.3 
percent. And the goal by 2030 is 3 billion gallons, of which we 
are about 93 million gallons. We are far, far from that.
    And with that in mind, the cost associated, production 
cost, 2 to 10 times that of regular fuel--2 to 10 times. 
Aviation is expensive enough on its own, but paying 2 to 10 
times more for fuel just because we can make it, when we have 
abundant fuel otherwise, is--it is--like, quite literally, it's 
crazy.
    But beyond that, the people that want these fuels don't 
think that that is enough, right? That is not even enough for 
them, particularly for GA pilots. They want you all to fly 
less. And that is the only thing that is going to appease them. 
Let's face it, the only thing that is really going to appease 
them is when you don't fly at all.
    So, with that in mind, as the leader of AOPA, and thinking 
particularly about the increased price of fuel, which increases 
the cost of flying, what is AOPA's plan to address what I would 
characterize as an insane activism to jack up the price for 
fuel and to have us end this misguided, quixotic mission to use 
something other than what has worked for decades upon decades 
now safely and is abundant and is affordable? What's your plan?
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes. Thank you, Congressman, for the 
question.
    And you are right; this is--at AOPA's core is protecting 
our collective freedom to fly. Fees and expenses are just an 
underlying constraint on that mission.
    And you mentioning SAF and the, I will say, broader set of 
fees, the ones I talked about in my opening statement, whether 
it is the FBO fees, landing fees, insurance, all these costs 
begin to add on top. So we wake up every day looking at how 
those fees are changing over time and what role can we play in 
helping to drive those down.
    To your specific question, then, I think we take several 
tacks on that. One is, where is the future going? So you talked 
about SAF. Another example would be unleaded fuel, going from 
leaded to unleaded fuel----
    Mr. Perry [interrupting]. That is my next one, the EAGLE 
initiative, another crazy initiative where literally some 
airports have banned regular fuel, and it has resulted in 
accidents and incidents----
    Mr. Pleasance [interposing]. Yes.
    Mr. Perry [continuing]. All for no reason. There is 
absolutely zero reason to do any of this, and it increases the 
cost.
    So, as the advocates for all GA pilots, like, where do you 
stand on it? You can tell where I stand. Where do you stand?
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes. Well, so we will resist everything that 
increases the cost to fly, right?
    Now, that doesn't mean it is going to be zero, because it 
does cost money to run the infrastructure and to produce the 
fuels that we use.
    In the case of unleaded fuels, that is one that we are 
probably more supportive than not, because there is only one 
producer of tetraethyl lead in the world, over in the U.K., and 
we are concerned about the future of the availability of that 
one----
    Mr. Perry [interrupting]. Maybe we should subsidize that.
    Mr. Pleasance. I don't know if we subsidize that.
    Mr. Perry. No, we should. But that is another story.
    Mr. Pleasance. But you have one producer in the world who 
makes that. So we, as a country, are beholden on one single 
manufacturer, so, that concerns us. And for those of us who 
have used unleaded fuel, it actually works well in the 
airplanes, in the engine.
    So, there are constraints between today and being able to 
widely roll a fuel like that out that we are concerned about, 
some safety-related concerns, but we will advocate for that 
transition to be done in a safe and thoughtful way.
    More broadly to your question, though, around fees, a big 
part of it is pushing back, just like you are. I fully agree 
with--if you look at the full spectrum of fees out there, many 
of them raise serious questions as to, sort of, the viability 
of why such a change would be imposed on what is, as has been 
said earlier, the most vibrant aviation ecosystem in the world.
    And for someone like me who has traveled the world and seen 
aviation across Europe, across Asia, it is remarkable when you 
come back to this country and see how vibrant it is and how 
widespread the use of general aviation is to support even the 
general public, whether it is medevac or firefighting and all 
of these practices that happen that, unfortunately, most of the 
general public doesn't realize.
    So, I will end with saying, I think one of the biggest 
things we can do with AOPA is to educate the public on how 
important this infrastructure is that we have and how important 
this world of general aviation is to the economy and to their 
very lives, whether it is teaching the future airline pilots of 
the world to fly, whether it is handling a medevac flight, 
whether it is disaster recovery and delivering supplies to a 
post-hurricane environment. All of those things are general 
aviation.
    And my hope--and we fight this battle every day--is that, 
as more people hear and appreciate the value that general 
aviation provides, some of the crazy stuff that is happening 
out there gets less momentum, because people do want to support 
what we all know and love so much.
    Mr. Perry. I yield.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Garcia.
    Mr. Garcia of California. Thank you very much, Mr. 
Chairman.
    And thank you to all of our witnesses here today.
    I just want to obviously emphasize that all these issues 
that are being discussed today are at the top of mind for a lot 
of folks. Certainly, when I am back home, people talk to me 
about the price of healthcare, they talk to me about the cost 
of goods, and they talk to me about safety at our airports, at 
our airlines, and what is happening at the FAA. It is at the 
top of mind of constituents across my community and, I think, 
across the country.
    And so these hearings and these questions are really 
important, so I want to thank all of you.
    I know that, obviously, staffing challenges is a huge issue 
for the FAA, especially for air traffic controllers.
    As an example, I represent the Long Beach Airport back in 
my home community of Long Beach. This is an airport that is a 
municipal airport run by the city. I served as mayor there for 
8 years, and so I know the airport really well. I have had a 
chance to meet and I know much of the staff at the airport: the 
TSA folks, the air traffic controllers, the workers there.
    You may not know that the FAA has determined for our 
airport that we need 26 certified controllers. We currently 
have 19.
    Now, these are positions, of course, that, with mistakes, 
with health concerns, if there are issues where folks need to 
take some time off, we are creating a very serious issue at our 
airport and for safety.
    And I want to be clear, the Long Beach Airport is safe. 
These air traffic controllers are incredibly talented. In my 
opinion, they are heroes. And they work really hard to ensure 
the safety of all people.
    But I think I speak for a lot of folks when I say the 
biggest priority as we implement the FAA reauthorization is to 
follow through on our promises to build and support our 
workforce, ensuring people know what their roles are and a safe 
experience for all passengers.
    Now, I think it is really important, of course, that, as we 
have these conversations, we are looking at safety on all 
fronts. It is the safety for air traffic controllers as well as 
our commercial pilots. The FAA, of course--the process of 
clearing someone to return for work for all of these positions 
after a medical or mental health issue is also really 
important, and we know that you are all involved in this work. 
And we all agree that we need to be completely certain it is 
safe before putting someone back in a tower or a cockpit.
    I know that there was an internal presentation at the FAA 
last month suggesting staff departures could affect the 
processing of medical clearances for pilots and air traffic 
controllers.
    Captain Reven, can you share what the process of regaining 
your clearance to fly actually entails?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you, Congressman, for the question.
    So, as I understand, you are talking about for a lost 
medical. So there are a couple of different avenues there. The 
special issuance is the one where we see the most problems in 
the past, and that has improved. We have been working with Dr. 
Northrup, who is the FAA flight surgeon, on reducing those 
timelines.
    But, as an example, someone has a failed EKG. And, in the 
past, there were times where the cardiac board was only meeting 
twice a month or quarterly or even longer sometimes. And so 
this person had already been cleared by his AME. Okay, you are 
cleared to go fly; everything is back within the right ranges. 
But he was waiting for that board to meet. So that was 10 years 
ago; this problem has been on our horizon.
    Now they have gotten those down to an average of 90 days, 
which we are absolutely thrilled with. There will be departures 
here and there, but he works with his AME, who is not an 
employee of the FAA----
    Mr. Garcia of California [interrupting]. Now, can----
    Mr. Reven [continuing]. And that paperwork filters up.
    Mr. Garcia of California. Again, Captain, I have heard 
those same stats. I think that is really impressive, and I 
think as the FAA presentation, the internal presentation that 
was presented, I will talk about staff departures and how they 
could negatively actually impact this process. We have made so 
much progress, and yet these staff departures could really be a 
hindrance to the progress that we have made.
    Part of last year's FAA reauthorization created a working 
group to recommend ways of improving, of course, some of these 
procedures. The aviation rulemaking committee also put out 
their own recommendations on mental health and aviation medical 
clearances last year.
    Captain, do you know if any of those recommendations--
additional recommendations have been adopted by the FAA--and I 
know some of them have, obviously--on the timeline?
    Mr. Reven. Yes. We are pleased with the progress, but you 
can never do too much. Specifically, you mentioned mental 
health. We have a peer support program at SWAPA, but near and 
dear to my heart, maybe earlier this year, a classmate of mine, 
a 20-year employee of Southwest Airlines, took his own life.
    So we have got a lot of room to work. We have got a lot 
of--it is a weakness for pilots who feel like I have to ``John 
Wayne'' this. I have got to keep it secret. If I tell somebody, 
``I need to talk to somebody, I am going through this 
problem.''
    We have also got to get towards a company with a just 
culture that encourages self-reporting, as opposed to having 
some sort of a punishment-type culture. And I do think we are 
making great strides at Southwest Airlines and in the industry, 
that side.
    Mr. Garcia of California. Thank you. I am out of time. I 
just want to thank you, and just to conclude, just say that 
mental health of all folks and their physical health, whether 
they are pilots, whether they are traffic controllers, whether 
they are flight attendants, is so important, and I just hope 
that we recognize that these reductions are making--ensuring 
that we have a healthy team at all of our airports as possible.
    So, thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Reven. Thank you.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize our fearless leader of the full committee, 
Chairman Graves.
    Mr. Graves. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. I actually don't have any 
questions.
    I think I am pretty familiar with the reauthorization, but 
I do want to welcome all my friends here to the committee, and 
we appreciate your testimony, and we appreciate your insight, 
as much as anything else. Thanks.
    Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, sir.
    Ms. Nelson. We appreciate you too, Chairman Graves.
    Mr. Nehls. Isn't he wonderful? Ms. Nelson, isn't he 
wonderful? We have strong leadership on this committee.
    I now recognize Mr. Stauber.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much.
    Currently, pilots and air traffic controllers who seek 
mental health care are unfairly penalized. While aviation 
professionals are mandated to report if they seek mental health 
care, once they take that step, they are faced with delays, 
confusion, and broad regulations to return to work. This often 
means that relatively minor health concerns result in long wait 
times and derailed careers for safe and well-trained pilots and 
air traffic controllers.
    As a former police officer, there were two times in my 
career that I needed help with calls for service. I was 
escorted out of the squad room by a commander, Commander 
Lieutenant Bob Brasel, after an individual tried to kill me.
    Lieutenant Brasel said, Pete, how are you doing? And in 
front of my colleagues, I said, I'm tough, a hockey player. I 
have won fights, I have lost fights. I'm okay.
    I was crushed inside.
    I left my night shift after the incident. Sitting on the 
halls, the city step halls of Duluth, Minnesota, watching the 
sunrise over Lake Superior, the most beautiful sunrise I have 
ever seen. The grass was as green as ever, knowing I am alive 
that morning. I needed that help at that moment because when I 
went home, I never told my wife, as she was leaving for work, 
what had happened.
    I go to rollcall. Bob Brasel met me there. He knew I needed 
help. I needed that police counselor that night, and I got the 
help I needed. And I returned for 22 straight years after that, 
and it was because I had a leader that understood that it is 
not--the stigmatism of mental health must go in this Nation 
because one in four of us, one in four of us adults are going 
to experience that in our lifetime. No matter what we do or 
say, we are going to experience that.
    And our professional airline pilots are no different. And 
when I hear that our airline pilots, when they ask for help, 
that they are removed, the stigma is there. They are delayed in 
getting help, and some of them can't even get their jobs back 
or are delayed until they get their jobs back, which affects 
their family.
    That is wrong and that stops right here and right now with 
the Mental Health in Aviation Act that I am proudly sponsoring 
with Representative Casten from Illinois.
    Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for what you do. Thanks for 
bringing clarity to the situation. It should never happen. And 
once that bill happens, if any of you need help, you will get 
it, the door will be open. And then you will return to your 
jobs, carrying the most precious cargo: people. And you all 
know that.
    My goal is to have, if it happens, to have the same affect 
that that counseling happened to me as a police officer, to be 
able to work through it, manage through it, because we have 
help for you. And never will you lose your job and never will 
that stigma stay with you, because we are all humans and it 
happens to us, and it happened to me almost 31 years ago. Even 
back then I had a leader in the police department.
    And you are all leaders in the profession of aviation, and 
I am proud of each and every one of you. I fly a couple times 
every week. We all do. You carry us, and our families and our 
friends depend on you.
    Make no mistake, this committee, Chairman Graves, Chairman 
Nehls, and my Democrats on the other side of the aisle all 
agree with this bill. This is not a messaging bill. This bill 
is going to get across the finish line in a bipartisan fashion. 
The President is going to sign it, and never again will you 
have to wonder if you should ask for help.
    I had questions prepared, Mr. Reven, for you, and I am 
sorry I didn't get to them, but I wanted to tell you all my 
personal opinion, my personal experience of asking for help. 
Asking for help is actual strength, and we have to honor that 
and make a commitment. Never again will you have to be forced 
to get into that cockpit if you are dealing with some issues 
around you or your family, because, remember, one in four of us 
in our lifetime as adults will need help. God bless you and 
thanks for carrying us safely.
    And I yield back.
    Mr. Reven. Thank you, Congressman.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you, Pete. Well said.
    I now recognize Mr. Johnson for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Ranking 
Member, for convening this hearing, and thank you to our 
witnesses today for your testimony.
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 was a historic 
bipartisan commitment to public safety, modern infrastructure, 
a stronger workforce, and consumer protection, but the law is 
only as strong as its execution, and right now, that execution 
is being sabotaged.
    A year ago, we came together across party lines to move 
aviation forward, but instead of building on that progress, the 
Trump administration is gutting it. Slashing the FAA and DOT 
workforces while tasking them with over 500 mandates is 
calculated sabotage. You don't modernize aviation by laying off 
the professionals who keep planes in the sky and passengers 
alive. You don't protect safety by sidelining the very people 
who ensure it, unless the goal is to watch the system fail and 
pretend it's not by design.
    Now, Congress did its job, and the administration now needs 
to do theirs. Stop the sabotage and implement this law fully, 
swiftly, and in good faith.
    Democrats are watching. We are not backing down, and we 
will not let politics put lives at risk. And I am personally 
happy that Elon Musk has left the scene.
    Mr. Bolen, the National Business Aviation Association 
represents a wide range of small businesses and operators 
across the country, many of them based at regional airports 
that rely on Federal contracts and grants. Now, the Trump 
administration is trying to dismantle the Disadvantaged 
Business Enterprise program, a longstanding initiative that 
helps minority- and women-owned small businesses fairly compete 
for those contracts.
    Are you concerned about the impact of eliminating the DBE 
program and what impact that elimination would have on small 
operators in your association and the business opportunities in 
the aviation industry overall?
    Mr. Bolen. Mr. Johnson, you are correct, business aviation 
does involve a lot of small companies, midsized companies. I 
think 85 percent of our members are small and midsized 
companies. A lot of----
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia [interrupting]. And some of them are 
disadvantaged businesses as well, correct?
    Mr. Bolen. That is correct.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. And so shouldn't we be continuing 
the DBE program?
    Mr. Bolen. There are a number of programs, and I think----
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia [interrupting]. Shouldn't we be 
continuing those?
    Mr. Bolen. I think what we want to do is make sure that 
there is access----
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia [interrupting]. And that is what the 
program--that is what the DBE program tries to make available 
is to be able to get access. What's wrong with that?
    Mr. Bolen. Probably----
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia [interrupting]. Is it simply because 
it falls under the DEI category and you don't want to talk 
about that right now to jeopardize whatever you are trying to 
protect? I understand. But let me move on.
    Ms. Nelson, at our last full committee hearing on the 
implementation of the FAA Reauthorization Act, one thing was 
clear: Our air traffic controllers are working under intense 
pressure, long hours, high stakes, and this atmosphere of fear 
created by constant political games is wearing them down. That 
is a heavy burden for anyone, but I imagine it is just as hard, 
if not harder, for flight attendants who are working exhausting 
hours at 30,000 feet, and they are responsible for the safety 
and well-being of every person on board.
    Can you speak to how the chaos and instability in these few 
months of the Trump administration has impacted flight 
attendants and others on the front lines of aviation safety?
    Ms. Nelson. First of all, we count on our air traffic 
controllers, and we are very concerned about the stresses that 
they have been under, and our safety inspectors. This directly 
affects us on the job.
    If we don't have a system that is supporting us--there are 
questions from flight attendants saying, why are air traffic 
controllers being asked to justify their jobs? Why are they 
getting notices like everyone else, even though it wasn't 
intended for them to leave? And why are their pensions being 
attacked? Because this kind of instability is not supportive of 
keeping people focused on safety.
    We know--and I appreciate very much your question about 
flight attendants. We are in the middle of bargaining and 
trying to address some of these issues with the airlines. It is 
very difficult to do our jobs when you have all of this 
instability going on and when we also see that demand is 
softening because people don't want to come to the U.S. Ticket 
prices are dropping, and as we are bargaining, that is a real 
concern, too.
    So everyone is concerned with that instability, and we know 
very well that in order to have a business work, you have to 
have stability in order to invest, in order to staff up, in 
order to be able to do the work. So the attacks on pensions for 
Federal workers and collective bargaining agreements we also 
feel on the job, too, and we feel that transition also into our 
discussions with the airlines.
    Mr. Johnson of Georgia. Thank you.
    My time has expired, and I yield back.
    Mr. Wied [presiding]. The gentleman yields back.
    I now recognize Mr. Hurd for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Hurd of Colorado. Thank you very much.
    I want to thank Chairman Nehls and Ranking Member Cohen for 
holding this hearing.
    I represent a very large district in western and southern 
Colorado, Colorado's Third Congressional District. It is 
basically half the geographic footprint of the State. One of 
the facts that blew my mind when I was originally running for 
office, and I think surprised a lot of folks back East, is that 
it is larger geographically than the entire State of 
Pennsylvania. So it is a big district. And general aviation 
airports are crucial for accessibility, for emergency services, 
for ag operations, for economic development.
    I wanted to ask, Mr. Bolen, now that the FAA is 1 year into 
implementing reauthorization, how effectively has it 
implemented provisions intended to support and modernize rural 
aviation infrastructure?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think that was one of the really great 
accomplishments of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024. As you 
well know, we saw the funding levels for airports go from $3.35 
billion to $4 billion, with a lot of that specifically directed 
toward rural airports. And that is critically important, 
because as you articulated, these airports are lifelines for 
rural communities. They provide medical support, they provide 
emergency relief, they are there in times of disaster.
    We need to make sure that those airports have an 
opportunity to survive, they have an opportunity to do matching 
grants, and I think that is exactly what this committee had in 
mind, and I think that it is an enormous step for the United 
States to keep its leadership in every aspect of general 
aviation.
    Mr. Hurd of Colorado. Thank you very much.
    Yes, it is critical, these services and airports in rural 
parts of the country for sure, and it is important that we make 
sure we continue this implementation to help those rural parts 
of our country.
    Mr. Pleasance, is the FAA doing enough to ensure general 
aviation airports have sufficient infrastructure funding during 
their implementation of the reauthorization?
    Mr. Pleasance. Is the FAA doing enough, is that the 
question?
    Mr. Hurd of Colorado. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Pleasance. That is a great question. I don't see 
evidence that they are not doing enough. However, some of the 
examples I gave earlier around some of these smaller airports 
that are suffering from some of the fees, you do have examples 
out there where you have got singular FBOs operating in 
locations and, to some extent, take over the economics of that 
airport. And I think our concern from an FAA perspective is not 
as much enforcement of the grant assurance language around fair 
and reasonable fees that ultimately do affect the ability and 
attractiveness of the flying public to use those airports.
    And it is not every airport, right. This is, by and large, 
a lot of the small airports--call it ``in the middle of 
nowhere'' around the country--are doing just fine, but there 
are a number of airports that are important access points to 
parts of the country, including out in your part of Colorado, 
where we do have concerns that we are seeing increasing 
evidence of fees going up, access to those airports going down, 
and the FAA not doing as much as we believe they should do to 
ensure that the access to those airports remains viable.
    Mr. Hurd of Colorado. That is very helpful. Thank you.
    Mr. Bolen, back to you. Workforce development and retention 
are critical issues for rural districts like mine in Colorado's 
Third District. Pilot workforce shortages have particularly 
impacted rural regions who have seen reduced service to their 
communities as a result, and having a strong general aviation 
pipeline is key to ensuring that we have a strong supply of 
commercial pilots.
    What are some ideas or initiatives that your members have 
considered to address these critical aviation workforce 
shortages to retain talent in our rural communities? And has 
the 2024 reauthorization been helpful in facilitating aviation 
workforce development in rural areas?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think the bill itself did a number of 
really important things. It created some important grant 
programs and provided $20 million for aviation maintenance 
technicians and a pathway to pilots. So those are important 
programs.
    I think the challenge that we all have is how do we raise 
awareness of what these opportunities are. There are a lot of 
people that have not focused on the opportunities available 
through aviation or see themselves in what they see as 
something different and apart for a different segment of the 
community.
    I think the efforts to go into high schools, the efforts 
that are being made by organizations like AOPA with their 
curriculum are really important. I think we also need to focus 
on our ability to work with the technical schools and the 
community colleges, another opportunity to make people aware of 
what is out there.
    So NBAA is working through its members. Fortunately, we 
have got people in every congressional district, and that gives 
us an opportunity to be part of the local community. We 
encourage career days at airports. We encourage going into 
schools. We can't do enough to express the opportunities that 
are available, the life-changing opportunities in aviation and 
specifically general aviation.
    Mr. Hurd of Colorado. Wonderful. Agreed. Thank you so such.
    I see my time has expired. Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Wied. The gentleman yields back.
    I now recognize Ms. Brownley for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Pleasance, I have a question about so-called aircraft 
kits. About a month ago, there was a fatal crash in Simi 
Valley, California, in my congressional district, which 
involved a home-built kit airplane that crashed into homes and 
killed two people.
    According to the FAA, the FAA does not certify or approve 
aircraft kits. Can you comment on the current safety 
regulations around aircraft kits and the certification process 
and airworthiness reviews or maybe lack thereof for these 
amateur-built kit aircraft?
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes, absolutely. So part of what has made 
the U.S. as much of a leader in aviation as it is, is in large 
part because of our willingness to innovate, and the whole--
they call it experimental aircraft or home-built aircraft--
movement has become a giant part of this ecosystem.
    The aircraft you are talking about in Simi Valley was a 
Van's RV-10. I am very familiar with the accident. Van's has 
produced more kit aircraft than any other company, over 11,000 
of them. The vast majority, 99-point-whatever percent, fly 
safely every day.
    So I am a very strong supporter of that ecosystem. I think, 
to me, it is a great example of how we as a country continue to 
innovate, because many of the innovations that make their way 
into certified aircraft come out of the home-built or 
experimental area.
    To your point around not being certified, they--you are 
right, they are not certified. However, that does not mean they 
don't have oversight from the FAA. They actually do. So as 
these kits are built, and they are very well-designed kits with 
very well-structured plans and instructions on how to do it, 
each major stage of build has to be overseen by an FAA-licensed 
mechanic to basically authorize it to move on to the next 
stage.
    So although they don't end up at the end being certified 
like a certified aircraft would be, they do end up with a level 
of inspection that ensures it was built in compliance with the 
manufacturer of the kit's recommendation. So I personally am a 
big fan of it. I think it drives a lot of vitality.
    Accidents like that one where that was a weather-related 
accident, not an aircraft-related accident, it could have been 
in any other kind of plane. So I guess I would not want the 
general public to think that just since the word either 
``experimental'' or ``home-built'' is used, it implies that 
there is a level of safety that is somehow given up. These 
aircrafts are also a very, very safe aircraft.
    Ms. Brownley. Well, I don't think NTSB has finished their 
investigation around that crash in my district.
    Mr. Pleasance. You're right.
    Ms. Brownley. And I also know that FAA doesn't approve the 
kit manufacturers.
    I guess what you are saying is the way the system is right 
now is what you would prefer, that there shouldn't be any 
further regulations around aircraft kits, homemade.
    Mr. Pleasance. That's correct. And if we discover there is 
a problem, a specific problem, of course, I would be very 
supportive of addressing that. But right now, I think the FAA 
oversight and then in partnership with AOPA, also the 
Experimental Aircraft Association in Wisconsin, play a big 
role. We all have a vested interest in those aircraft being as 
safe as possible.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you.
    Ms. Nelson, this hearing is about implementation of the FAA 
Reauthorization Act. So from your perspective, in terms of the 
administration and DOGE cuts and the FAA workforce cuts, can 
you comment on if and how it has slowed down rulemaking and key 
priorities to keep moving forward on implementation?
    Ms. Nelson. First of all, I just want to note that as 
safety professionals, we learn the first rule in safety is to 
remove all distractions. So while we have--we very, very much 
appreciate the leadership of Secretary Duffy pushing forward on 
trying to modernize and staff up and work with the unions on 
all of that.
    But at the same time, to have the administration creating 
all of these other distractions, it is undermining the process. 
And in specific areas of the bill that, of course, we are 
concerned about, doing away with committees, doing away with 
rulemaking committees, that is jeopardizing the plans of this 
committee and the direction from this committee and all of 
Congress on what needs to be done in all areas of safety in 
order to lift us up.
    We are very, very focused, obviously, on the modernization 
and staffing of air traffic control, but there are other 
portions of safety. You can't take any of those for granted, 
and there are a lot of priorities in the bill that are being 
sidelined because of what DOGE has done.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you for that.
    And one quick last question. Captain Reven, I wanted to 
just check in with you on the overseas maintenance stations and 
if you believe there is anything more that needs to be done to 
ensure our safety standards there.
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congresswoman.
    I can only speak to Southwest Airlines and our methodology. 
We have a very rich and robust safety and inspection where we 
operate and take those planes down in South America. We have 
our check airman corps who are our most highly professional 
overseeing the rest of our pilot group that have a specific 
nonroutine flight operations certification. They go down there 
and do that, and they put those planes through their paces 
after they take them out of maintenance, turn off switches, 
turn on systems, turn them back on. It is operating as it 
should.
    Ms. Brownley. I think my time is done, so I need to yield 
back. Thank you.
    Mr. Reven. Okay. I hope I answered your question.
    Ms. Brownley. Thank you.
    Mr. Wied. The gentlewoman yields back.
    I now recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    I am very proud to represent the great State of Wisconsin, 
and it is home to many great general aviation airports.
    The municipal airport in Watertown, Wisconsin, for example, 
has experienced issues with the FAA's eligibility requirements 
for a runway expansion project. Specifically, the airport is 
struggling to secure airport improvement program, AIP, funding 
even after conducting necessary environmental studies, 
rerouting a city road, and purchasing additional land for a 
buffer requirement.
    As the Watertown Airport has worked towards achieving AIP 
eligibility requirements, it is estimated the runway expansion 
project cost has ballooned from $2.5 million in 2005 to nearly 
$15 million today. The small airport fund of the AIP 
establishes a calculation to ensure that a required level of 
discretionary funding is used on small airports.
    So, Mr. Pleasance and Mr. Bolen, if you both could weigh 
in, what actions could be taken to help make AIP eligibility 
easier to obtain for smaller airports?
    Mr. Pleasance. So that is definitely not my area of 
expertise. I have got, I will call it sympathy, for what feels 
like increasing levels of bureaucracy and overhead that the 
airports are having to jump through. I think this body putting 
some additional guidelines in the sense of requirements on the 
FAA to impose a level of what I call reasonableness in what is 
required to justify an airport.
    I see a couple of examples in other parts of the country 
where extra dollars are being spent, in my view, to actually 
make the airport less safe. Reducing the length of a runway, 
for example, or eliminating a cross runway that take dollars to 
accomplish.
    So I suppose it would be around this body's ability to 
provide greater clarity on the ability to simplify the path to 
improving airports.
    Mr. Bolen. Yes, I will follow up. I agree with what Mr. 
Pleasance said. I think one of the things that we have 
recognized in the United States is that it is difficult to 
build airports, build runways, and we want to make sure that we 
are able to create as many airports as we can. These are nodes 
in a system. The more nodes we have, the more valuable the 
system becomes.
    And as aircrafts get bigger, we need longer runways, and we 
need to have the safety buffers built in. So I think what we 
really need to do is very much focus on what the impediments 
are and to address them. Like you are talking about going from 
$2.5 million to $15 million, that has not served anyone, and it 
has not increased the health of Watertown, and it hasn't 
increased the safety in the system.
    Mr. Wied. All right. Thank you.
    Mr. Bolen, one for you. How is business aviation being 
integrated into FAA modernization efforts?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think we are part of the Modern Skies 
Coalition, and I think we recognize that the public airspace 
belongs to the public, and making sure that we have access to 
airspace and airports is critical. I think that is one of the 
things that has made the United States unique, and I think that 
that is our real strength.
    When we talk about things that will increase safety and 
increase efficiency, coordination, communication, connectivity, 
that helps everyone. The more precise we can be in our flights, 
the more clear we can be exactly where we are with clear 
situational awareness, that makes everybody safer, and that is 
why business aviation, general aviation, labor, commercial 
airlines, we are all in this together.
    Mr. Wied. Is the FAA listening to and incorporating 
noncommercial general aviation airports?
    Mr. Bolen. I think the airport office recognizes the 
importance of airports. I think as Mr. Pleasance has brought 
up, there are times when we would like to see more aggressive 
use of the part 16 efforts. We know that in some communities, 
developers or others like the idea of the land, but we want to 
make sure that we have a viable national system of airports, 
and that is why we have the whole NPIAS program.
    Mr. Wied. All right. Thank you.
    Thank you all for being here today.
    I yield back.
    I recognize Mr. DeSaulnier for 5 minutes.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I want to thank you all for being here. It is a combination 
of anxiety, but we want to be thoughtful to this. I have said 
this before. Mr. Chairman, I do hope that we are communicating 
with the administration. And Secretary Duffy is a former 
colleague. I have heard him say, make some comments after the 
terrible tragedy at DCA that indicated to me that he wasn't 
fully aware of the work we have done and are doing in terms of 
going after more money, which, of course, we would welcome from 
the administration. But just that coordination and the 
wonderful leadership we had from Chairman Graves to get this to 
this point, and I am really appreciative that we are continuing 
to stay on it.
    Captain, I want to ask you a couple of things. First, in 
the short term, what are you and your pilots seeing on the 
ground about near-misses, new technology that we are trying to 
get in?
    I know I bring this up all the time because it was my 
introduction to commercial aviation, the near-miss 10 years 
ago, the Air Canada flight at SFO in my area where we came 
within 54 feet. If it wasn't for the copilot of the United 
plane, the first plane on the taxiway, and all the work we put 
into NOTAMs.
    What are you seeing from that perspective? Now, that is 10 
years ago almost. Have those things improved? Are pilots 
reading the NOTAMs? Are they more digestible? And in the nearer 
term, has that created greater safety from the pilots' 
perspective?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congressman.
    On the NOTAMs part, it is getting better. They are starting 
to be a little--they are a little more decoded than they used 
to be, starting to be a little more condensed. The packets that 
we tailor are very condensed for the areas that we are going, 
and pilots are very responsible about reading those. Our 
dispatchers are also fantastic for reviewing those and the 121 
operation, making sure that you are safe and prepared for the 
location you are going to.
    To your question on the ground, it is getting better and 
better with the technology that is out there. We have the RAAS, 
which is a Runway Awareness and Advisory System. I have to look 
at that acronym all the time.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. I will take some credit for getting that.
    Mr. Reven. It lets you know, hey, you are getting close to 
a runway, you are getting close to a taxiway. It is in about 83 
percent of our aircraft at Southwest Airlines and ahead of 
schedule for being 100 percent instituted. It is just another 
great tool.
    The concern and what I see out there, the concern that I 
have is with air traffic control manning. One of the pilots 
that was on the Midway flight, he brought up a great example 
with Secretary Duffy. He said, hey, here in Denver, routinely 
on the weekends, they will go to one controller that operates 
both ground and tower frequencies. That's a problem. That's a 
problem, and it's a manning problem. It's not being 
irresponsible; it's just having the coverage to do so.
    So as you know, every commercial flight is an orchestrated 
event between air traffic control, the pilots, the ground 
operations, the flight attendants to get the passengers safely 
from A to B. So those are some of our concerns, just the 
manning and the coverage.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. And I have mentioned this, just in the 
tower with the air traffic controllers, again at SFO, and the 
thing that was alarming was retention, the burnout, 
particularly in those areas that have lots of flights in the 
urban areas where the differential isn't enough. So you think 
about attracting people into the field, whether it is pilots or 
air traffic controllers or mechanics.
    On the pilot side, I have heard from some of my pilots 
talking about the training and that difficulty of the great 
training that so many pilots got in the military and now trying 
to get that in the private sector. And one just anecdotal story 
is younger pilots will start at a training school in Arizona, 
go work for a regional airline, and have never really been in 
bad weather before. Could you--and the anxiety that creates.
    You have any comments on that kind of scenario and how we 
can improve that?
    Mr. Reven. Absolutely. I think a good part of that is 
experience, and there are lots of moves to try to reduce--there 
have been in the past, and I applaud this body for maintaining 
the strict 1,500-hour rule for an ATP, but there is no 
substitute for experience. And oftentimes folks will build 
those hours, and they have never been in the weather. So 
keeping that level of experience ensures that people have seen 
multiple, different, challenging environments and platforms.
    And so we do have fantastic young people that come to our 
airline, and they have seen real weather scenarios, and they 
continue to see those with an experienced guy in the left seat. 
So I think it is working as it should currently, and I applaud 
this body on their decisions.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. Ms. Nelson, just briefly, your folks are 
right at the retail point. We have had a lot of problems with 
stress and anxiety, COVID and post-COVID. How is that working 
out, just briefly? How are you dealing with customers who are 
stressed?
    Ms. Nelson. Well, it is a real challenge, and so, more 
education and more communication. We did have very, very clear 
communication from the FAA Administrator repeatedly and from 
the President in the last administration to make it very clear 
that people who acted out were going to jail. That continued 
conversation and leadership from all of our leaders is very, 
very helpful, and we would actually ask for people to continue 
to be talking about that, continue to be talking about the 
consequences and making it very clear what we expect of people 
when they come to the airport.
    Mr. DeSaulnier. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Wied. The gentleman yields back.
    I now recognize Mr. Shreve for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Shreve. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate the lady 
and the gentlemen for sharing time with us today.
    I represent central and eastern Indiana. I have got the 
Indianapolis Airport in my district. We describe Indy as being 
at the crossroads of America. We have got a nexus of Federal 
highways that traverse there, but as a consequence of that, 
FedEx has their second largest air cargo hub at IND, and that 
is growing by volume.
    Captain Reven, you move more passenger traffic through IND 
than any other passenger carrier. We were successful in 
securing a $27 million AIP grant and are rebuilding 5R out 
there. We are nearing completion on that, and we will get 
another 40 years out of that runway, and that is just crucial 
to commerce, both cargo and passengers.
    But I wondered if you could speak from a pilot's 
perspective as to the importance of that hard infrastructure, 
that physical environment that they are bringing aircraft in 
and out of on, please.
    Mr. Reven. I thank you for the question, Congressman, and 
absolutely support that project.
    UPS flies in and out of there--or FedEx, excuse me, flies 
in and out of there at high volume. Mostly they do it at night, 
and that gives them some efficiencies when they are more 
heavyweight, when they need a little bit longer runway. It 
makes the flexibility for us much better too with any kind of 
inclement weather.
    So fully in support. Always excited to see another project 
like that in an option, in a safety environment.
    Mr. Shreve. Yes. As with both Worldport just down the road 
in Louisville, with UPS and FedEx in Indianapolis, the busiest 
times of the day are in the middle of the night when all that 
traffic is sequencing in through there, and so that 
infrastructure really matters.
    Captain, I also toured Indy Center, and I have been up in 
the tower before. But we describe ourselves as the crossroads 
of America, but we have got a lot of traffic that Indy Center 
is managing. It moves from Atlanta into the Chicago area at 
different altitudes. And we are short on human talent at Indy 
Center, just as we are across the country.
    We have heard so much about the challenges in Newark that 
have acutely impacted United. I wondered if from Southwest's 
perspective there were pain points in the system that you would 
draw our attention to other than Newark.
    Mr. Reven. Sure. There are a lot of pain points in the 
system, and it did not come about in the last 6 months. We have 
been seeing this decline--or this problem with air traffic 
control manning, line of sight restrictions, et cetera, have a 
lot of problems down in Florida.
    One example where the Homestead Air Force Base radar shuts 
down in the southern tip of Florida, and the whole TRACON at 
Florida shuts down. So they have instituted some great things 
with the slowing down aircraft to doing the ground stop program 
to make sure they get those under control, and we have seen 
definite improvements.
    The manning continues to be a concern for us, for air 
traffic controllers. And I was talking a bit with NATCA 
yesterday, and they did a great job in this testifying body, 
this last testimony, with the challenges that they have. And we 
are just as supportive of them as we can be. They are absolute 
consummate professionals, the controllers.
    So we also applaud you for the grants and getting into high 
schools and getting in early and starting to highlight that 
profession and the need for it.
    Mr. Shreve. We sorely need the talent. It would seem like 
it would be a profession that could be attractive to young 
people that grow up gaming. If the hardware that they are 
working with was brought into the current century, I think that 
we would have the ability to pull young people into these cool, 
dark, windowless, bunkered sort of facilities as they move 
safely people and commerce around our country.
    But we are struggling with that at the moment, and part of 
that is a function of the very dated hardware, the DOS sort of 
world that they come into and can't identify with. I am 
determined to make some progress with this.
    Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Wied. The gentleman yields back.
    I now recognize Mrs. Foushee for 5 minutes.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to the 
witnesses for being with us today.
    Fume contamination occurs frequently on commercial flights. 
Nearly all commercial aircraft draw outside air through the 
engines into the cabin, which is then recirculated throughout 
the cabin. As we all know, the recent FAA reauthorization bill 
included numerous provisions to help address this issue, 
including a requirement to complete a study on the impacts of 
bleed air, the development of a reporting system for fume 
events that occur on board a commercial aircraft within 180 
days, and the issuance of formal recommendations to mitigate 
the impact of fume contamination on cabin air quality by 2027.
    Ms. Nelson, while we look forward to the report findings 
and recommendations offered, what can be done now to improve 
flight attendant health and safety in the short term?
    Ms. Nelson. Thank you very much. And I would also include 
our flight deck partners in this. We actually issue a card to 
all of our members about air quality and what to do, how to 
recognize it and report it when you find it. This would be a 
very simple thing for all airlines to do and to provide it to 
not only all the crewmembers but also maintenance.
    We have issues today where we will have a flight return to 
the gate because there is a report of dirty socks, the smell 
that you get when you have that contaminated bleed air, a 
report of people feeling headaches, feeling nauseous, and it 
will return. And sometimes when the maintenance crew and the 
crews do not know what is going on with that, they will tow the 
plane away from the gate, deplane the passengers, keep the crew 
on board, and fire up the engine so that the crew, the flight 
attendants are subjected to those fumes again.
    So if we are providing information to all of the pilots and 
flight attendants and maintenance, we will avoid very serious 
and unnecessary events like that.
    Mrs. Foushee. We will hear from others if you care to 
speak.
    Mr. Reven. Obviously, we echo the same concerns. And I 
appreciate the pilots have even one more concern that not 
everyone else deals with and that is the amount of radiation 
that is in the cockpits.
    So one of the things we have engaged the company, and a lot 
of other carriers have, too, is what comes in the factory, the 
safety information or the safety equipment, and their appeal 
that carriers don't strip that safety equipment off, like 
sunshades and things that can protect you from the UV.
    And then we look forward to also the outcome of that study 
on the bleed air. So thank you for the question.
    Mrs. Foushee. Additionally, Ms. Nelson, your testimony 
highlights the danger of radiation exposure to fertility and 
viability of pregnancy. While you mention no action has been 
taken at this time, what would you suggest be done to increase 
radiation exposure education and safety for flight attendants?
    Ms. Nelson. There is a form on the FAA site that could help 
you track your radiation exposure, but that link is dead now. 
If we could direct the FAA to make that available again and 
then encourage the airlines. There can be encouragement from 
Congress, there can be encouragement from the FAA to provide 
information to flight attendants and pilots to be able to track 
that and make good decisions for themselves.
    This is something that is done in Europe, and flight 
attendants and pilots can avoid flights when they are pregnant 
or they are trying to get pregnant to be able to avoid that 
radiation exposure because this has been quite an issue, not 
just with fertility, other illnesses as well. But understanding 
your potential risks helps you make choices to be able to avoid 
those risks.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you for that.
    And finally, we tend to forget that ramp workers play a 
role in commercial air travel because travelers do not interact 
with them directly, but the reality is that countless travelers 
rely on baggage handlers. When you consider the duties that 
they perform, we can see that this work can quickly become 
dangerous.
    In your testimony, Ms. Nelson, you share that significant 
training challenges and hazard concerns persist for ramp 
workers. Can you share more about these challenges and 
concerns, highlighting which ones you believe are the most 
important or the most urgent for the FAA to address?
    Ms. Nelson. Sure. A lot of this is about staffing up, of 
course, with the assessment of what is happening across the 
airport, but what can happen right away is that all of the 
airlines can be directed not to have ramp tasking schedules 
that are unrealistic with task times.
    These are things that are within the airlines' control 
today. Avoid overlapping assignments and rush transition for 
these workers, and, of course, education for everyone.
    We have had people die over the last several years, and it 
is unacceptable and inexcusable, and it is part of the drive 
towards productivity in very low paying jobs, I will say, 
oftentimes without benefits. And then also asking them to do 
more with less. So this is something that the airlines can 
actually step up on right away and make these situations better 
while the FAA is addressing the rest of the priorities here.
    Mrs. Foushee. Thank you for sharing that.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Wied. The gentlewoman yields back.
    I now recognize Mr. McDowell for 5 minutes.
    Mr. McDowell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And thank you to the witnesses for being here to testify 
before the subcommittee today.
    Mr. Bolen, I want to discuss pilot mental health and the 
recommendations in last year's reauthorization bill. As you 
know, aviation professionals, such as pilots and air traffic 
controllers, are required to report if they seek mental health 
care, but admitting to receiving mental health care can result 
in a bureaucratic paperwork shuffle at the FAA that prevents 
pilots from going back to work.
    This is unintentionally punitive, in my opinion, and it 
eliminates the incentives for aviation professionals to seek 
mental health treatment that they need. With that in mind, how 
would you recommend that the FAA address this issue while 
prioritizing the safety of our airspace first and foremost?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think a couple of things are happening 
in this area, and I think, as we heard earlier, one in four 
adults is impacted by this issue. It is significant in scope 
and the risks are significant. So we have got to do things 
where we understand better what the options are.
    There was an aviation rulemaking committee, an ARC, put 
together on mental health that completed its work and has made 
recommendations. And then, of course, the FAA Reauthorization 
Act of 2024 focuses on the aeromedical office, but specifically 
focuses on mental health as well. So I think understanding more 
about what we are talking about and understanding those 
treatments.
    We heard Captain Reven talking about the peer-to-peer focus 
at his airport. I think the important thing is we find ways for 
people to come forward, to destigmatize, and then to take the 
appropriate steps based on what the situation is today, not 
what has happened years ago, or finding new ways to move 
forward.
    And there has been progress. We have seen medications that 
are now available that were not before. So I think we are 
making progress, but I think this has to remain a front burner 
issue for everyone in the United States, but particularly the 
aviation community.
    Mr. McDowell. Sure. Thank you.
    Captain Reven, same question to you. How would you fix 
current policy to ensure that pilots aren't punished for 
seeking help?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congressman. And I 
agree with much of what Mr. Bolen said. In addition to that, we 
have had some very productive meetings with the FAA flight 
surgeon, Dr. Northrup, and she has been very open to our 
inputs.
    The 8500, the Form 8500 that you accomplish when you are 
getting ready for your flight physical, that is in need of 
update. There are questions on there that just shouldn't be 
asked. I think that one should be asked differently, that you 
referred to.
    The amount of lookback that you have to go to to go, okay, 
I have to keep track of each doctor's visit that I did for how 
many years. I told you that last year. So I am just trying to 
do this form correctly. Some of it is just redundant and it is 
overly burdensome on the member.
    That is probably the most important one to me that you 
mentioned about the pilot mental health question. I think we 
need to look at how we word that and what we do with that 
information.
    We have a group that meets regularly, and I would be happy 
to provide some bullets. We did this for Secretary Duffy when 
he first kind of came out of the gate after the Midway 
incident. He said, hey, what should we be looking at? And 
through our Government affairs and our subject matter experts, 
we provided a huge list of bullets.
    I would be really--I would be hopeful that I could do that 
for you in this area too, as far as the Form 8500 and the 
mental health.
    Mr. McDowell. I appreciate that.
    And, Captain, I have got another question for you. 
Everybody in this room is familiar with the FAA's issues with 
outdated air traffic control equipment. In your testimony, you 
say that the FAA must move faster to address these concerns. 
But in your view, what, if anything, is preventing the FAA from 
moving quickly to modernize ATC equipment, particularly in 
light of congressional support for equipment modernization and 
recent directives from the Secretary?
    Mr. Reven. So to me, it is appropriations. So we have got 
the bill. We have decided how much money we have got to spend, 
but now we have got to responsibly put it where it needs to be 
to get those folks--and delays--I have heard this in the 
military a ton of times, and you have all heard this, freedom 
isn't free. But I would say the same thing is even more so 
about safety.
    We have got to get the funds out there and get the money 
spent and get the projects underway as fast as possible to 
avoid another mishap.
    Mr. McDowell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield back.
    Mr. Wied. The gentleman yields back.
    I now recognize Ms. Gillen for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Gillen. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all of our witnesses here today.
    Chronic underinvestment and lack of focus on the New York 
airspace poses a serious threat to the safety of our region and 
to our country. Multiple times over the past few weeks, radar 
and communication systems that help controllers direct planes 
in and out of Newark Airport failed for as long as 90 seconds 
at a time, leaving controllers unable to see or talk to planes 
in the area, and resulting in major delays, cancellations, and 
leaving passengers stranded. These failures could have had 
deadly consequences and caused extreme mental anguish to the 
folks working in the TRACON and in the air traffic control 
space.
    I am proud to represent New York's Fourth Congressional 
District on the South Shore of Long Island and New York's air 
traffic control facilities, including TRACON N90 is in my 
district and is one of the most outdated and understaffed in 
the country. Yet it manages the Nation's most complex airspace.
    We must do more to address our outdated infrastructure and 
bring New York and our national airspace into the 21st century.
    I recently led a bipartisan group of my colleagues in 
sending a letter to the House Appropriations Committee urging 
the inclusion of critical language in the fiscal year 2026 
appropriation bill to prioritize New York airspace for 
modernization, to increase efficiency, reduce congestion, and 
maximize runway capacity to better serve air traffic needs and 
keep our skies safe.
    Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to enter into the 
record this letter.
    Mr. Nehls [presiding]. Without objection.
    [The information follows:]

                                 
Letter of May 23, 2025, to Hon. Steve Womack, Chairman, and Hon. James 
E. Clyburn, Ranking Member, Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing and 
      Urban Development, and Related Agencies, House Committee on 
   Appropriations, from Eight Congress Members from New York and New 
         Jersey, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Laura Gillen
                     Congress of the United States,
                                    Washington, DC 20515,  
                                                  May 23, 2025.    
The Honorable Steve Womack,
Chairman,
Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and 
        Related Agencies, House Committee on Appropriations, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
The Honorable James E. Clyburn,
Ranking Member,
Subcommittee on Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and 
        Related Agencies, House Committee on Appropriations, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
    Dear Chairman Womack and Ranking Member Clyburn:
    As you prepare the Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, 
and Related Agencies Appropriations bill for Fiscal Year 2026, we write 
to request the inclusion of crucial report language to address 
increasing public concerns about the safety and efficiency of the 
northeastern airspace, particularly around New York and New Jersey 
airports and Air Traffic Control (ATC) facilities--including the TRACON 
N90 facility. We recommend the following language that prioritizes 
modernization of our nation's most vulnerable regions including New 
York, while also increasing efficiency, reducing congestion, and 
maximizing runway capacity to better serve air traveler needs.
    New York's ATC facilities are among the most outdated and 
understaffed \1\ in the country yet manage the nation's most complex 
airspace. The complexity and volume of the New York airspace 
significantly increases the risk of operational disruptions, especially 
given the outdated or unreliable infrastructure. In addition, New York 
ATC facilities are not utilizing \2\ the most modern and efficient 
navigation technology, even though other parts of the country and the 
world have implemented them successfully.
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    The lack of investment and focus on New York's airspace poses a 
serious threat to the safety of our region and our country. Outdated 
infrastructure has led to frequent telecommunications outages and 
service interruptions that have brought the region's air traffic 
operations to a standstill. In just the last few weeks, radar and 
communications systems that help controllers direct planes in and out 
of Newark Liberty International Airport failed for as long as ninety 
seconds at a time, leaving controllers unable to see or talk to planes 
in the area, and resulting in major delays and cancellations leaving 
passengers stranded. This catastrophic system failure could have had 
deadly consequences. Such failures represent a system wide 
vulnerability that affects not only the New York area but also the 
broader national airspace. At its peak, flights that interacted with 
the New York airspace accounted for up to 70 percent of delays 
nationwide.
    To bring the New York airspace into the 21st century, keep our 
flights on time, and keep Americans safe, we ask the Committee to take 
action and include the language below in its FY2026 report.
     Prioritizing Our Most Vulnerable Facilities for Modernization 
                              Initiatives
    Although the FAA has initiated various modernization projects and 
staffing initiatives across the country, New York's ATC facilities have 
often been left out. This lack of prioritization further delays the 
much-needed upgrades to systems, equipment, and personnel that are 
critical for safe and efficient air traffic management in the most 
vulnerable region of our National Airspace System (NAS). The investment 
in new, modern facilities and other operational improvements in this 
region would yield disproportionate benefits for both domestic and 
international aviation and should be prioritized over other, less 
vulnerable regions.
    Therefore, we request the inclusion of the following report 
language:

        The Committee remains deeply concerned about the vulnerability 
        of aging air traffic control (ATC) infrastructure, particularly 
        in the New York region, which is responsible for managing the 
        most complex and congested airspace in the National Airspace 
        System (NAS). Persistent outages, outdated telecommunications 
        systems, and insufficient staffing in this region have 
        repeatedly triggered national ripple effects, accounting for a 
        significant share of delays across the country. While the FAA 
        has initiated modernization efforts elsewhere, the Committee 
        finds that investment has not been sufficiently prioritized 
        based on systemic risk and operational impact.

        The Committee recommends that the FAA update its 2023 
        Operational Risk Assessment to identify and rank the most 
        vulnerable ATC facilities, using criteria that include but are 
        not limited to: airspace complexity, delay frequency, system-
        wide impact, traffic growth, runway limitations, and the 
        region's role as a domestic and international throughput hub. 
        The FAA is further directed to prioritize modernization 
        projects--including telecommunications infrastructure, 
        decision-support tools, facilities upgrades, and staffing and 
        training programs--at facilities that present the highest 
        vulnerability and potential return on investment in terms of 
        operational improvement.

        The FAA shall submit a report to the Committees on 
        Appropriations, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
        of the House of Representatives and the Commerce, Science, and 
        Transportation of the Senate within 180 days of enactment of 
        this Act detailing: (1) the updated facility vulnerability 
        assessment, (2) the projects selected for prioritized 
        implementation, and (3) an explanation of how prioritization 
        decisions were made.

    This measure would require the FAA to address the most challenging 
sectors of the NAS, rather than those that are the easiest to implement 
in and correspondingly yield less operational improvement. It would 
prioritize investment in the busiest, most complex, and vulnerable 
airspace which would concentrate modernization efforts to where there 
are the most operational disruptions. These requirements would help 
ensure that the significant federal investment in the NAS is being 
optimized.
               Increasing Efficiency at New York Airports
    New York ATC facilities are not utilizing the most modern and 
efficient airspace navigation technology, even though airlines have 
invested millions of dollars to equip their aircraft and train their 
pilots with this capability. For example, Required Navigation 
Performance (RNP) technology enables airplanes to follow precise routes 
instead of operating over a broader geography that requires more 
direction from controllers. This established technology is already 
operational in other parts of the country but it is underutilized in 
New York. Most airplanes are already equipped with this technology, and 
the mixed equipment adds to the complexity for already busy air traffic 
controllers. Requiring aircraft to be equipped with RNP or equivalent 
technology during peak hours would streamline operations.
    Therefore, we request the inclusion of the following report 
language:

        The Committee is concerned by the underutilization of advanced 
        air traffic procedures in the New York terminal area, which may 
        improve management of this congested airspace. For instance, 
        Required Navigation Performance (RNP), an advanced form of 
        Performance Based Navigation (PBN), has been successfully 
        deployed in other high-density regions to help enhance safety 
        and operational efficiency by enabling more precise and 
        predictable aircraft routing. Given the chronic controller 
        staffing shortages and complexity of the New York airspace, the 
        Committee believes that implementation of more advanced 
        procedures, such as RNP, during peak traffic periods could 
        yield operational benefits.

        The Committee recommends that the Federal Aviation 
        Administration (FAA) establish a pilot to determine the 
        feasibility of using RNP capabilities for aircraft operations 
        during peak hours in New York's airspace. The Committee further 
        directs the FAA to report to the House and Senate Committees on 
        Appropriations, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
        of the House of Representatives and the Commerce, Science, and 
        Transportation of the Senate within 180 days of enactment of 
        this Act on the design and proposed implementation timeline of 
        the pilot program, and to provide an assessment of its 
        operational and safety impacts within one year of initiation.

    This pilot program would prompt full implementation of the wide-
ranging short-term and long-term airspace improvements that have been 
postponed for decades. Limiting this pilot program to peak hours, when 
the highest number of aircraft are moving through the ATC system, would 
boost efficiency at periods when ATC personnel are the most strained, 
while still enabling nonequipped aircraft that require more guidance to 
land in off-peak periods. In the short term, requiring standardization 
in landing and takeoff patterns during high volume traffic periods is 
one way to enhance safety by constructing a more predictable airspace. 
This streamlining of operations could also lead to a reduction of delay 
programs during peak hours.
       Study on Innovative Arrival Spacing Technology in New York
    Arrival spacing tools, such as Intelligent Approach, safely 
optimize runway capacity to improve operational resilience and deliver 
better on-time performance. In other parts of the world, Intelligent 
Approach technology is helping controllers to safely increase 
efficiency and maximize available runway capacity. Although this new 
technology is operational outside of the United States, the FAA has 
been reluctant to begin understanding how it can help address crowded 
airspace in areas like New York. The Port Authority of New York and New 
Jersey, operator of John F. Kennedy International Airport (JFK), 
LaGuardia Airport (LGA), and Newark Liberty International Airport 
(EWR), has already advocated for this technology as an eventual 
solution to the limited runway capacity in New York.
    Therefore, we request the inclusion of the following report 
language:

        The Committee notes the international innovative arrival 
        spacing tools in optimizing runway throughput and improving on-
        time performance in high-traffic environments. However, the FAA 
        has not yet conducted a comprehensive evaluation of this 
        technology for potential use in U.S. airspace. The Port 
        Authority of New York and New Jersey has identified this 
        technology as a potential solution for enhancing operational 
        resilience at its commercial service airports.

        The Committee encourages the FAA, in coordination with airport 
        operators, air carriers, labor representatives, and relevant 
        stakeholders, to evaluate and develop an implementation 
        strategy for the potential use of innovative arrival spacing 
        tools, including Intelligent Approach technology, in the New 
        York airspace. The FAA shall report to the Committees on 
        Appropriations, Committee on Transportation and Infrastructure 
        of the House of Representatives and the Commerce, Science, and 
        Transportation of the Senate within one year of enactment of 
        this Act the study, and shall provide a final report within 
        four years outlining findings and recommendations for 
        implementation.

    Thank you for your attention to these matters. We look forward to 
working with the Committee to ensure that the New York Airspace, and 
our NAS more broadly, have the resources they need to keep maximize 
efficiency and keep Americans safe.
            Sincerely,
Laura A. Gillen,                         Nydia M. Velazquez,
  Member of Congress.                      Member of Congress.  
Nicholas A. Langworthy,                  Dan Goldman,   
  Member of Congress.                      Member of Congress.
Jerrold Nadler,                          Gregory W. Meeks,       
  Member of Congress.                      Member of Congress.     
Josh Gottheimer,                         Thomas R. Suozzi,    
  Member of Congress.                      Member of Congress.       

    Ms. Gillen. Thank you.
    So, Ms. Nelson, you mentioned the recent issues at Newark 
in your testimony. As your union pointed out last month, 
experts have been sounding the alarm for decades that the 
infrastructure must be rebuilt and must be modernized. How have 
your union members been impacted by the chronic underinvestment 
in the New York airspace over the past few years, and what can 
Congress do to further facilitate the modernization effort?
    Thank you, Ms. Nelson.
    Ms. Nelson. Thank you. So when flights are delayed or 
canceled, flight attendants are deterred from their schedules 
too. This can have an impact on our pay. It can have an impact 
on just getting home to our families and doing our duties at 
home. And ultimately what happens is that our air traffic 
controllers are not going to run an unsafe system, so they are 
going to slow down the capacity. That will have major economic 
impacts on the New York area and, frankly, on the rest of the 
country. So much of our air traffic flows in and out of the New 
York area.
    Specifically, the flight attendants who are based there 
have now lost their schedules in many cases because capacity 
had to be cut. That means that they are losing hours and 
opportunity for pay. It also means that they are often delayed 
many, many hours from getting home or rerouted or have other 
disruptions to their lives.
    So we have concerns, first and foremost, of course, for 
safety, and we thank our air traffic controllers for making 
sure that they always keep that safe for us, but we have got to 
do more.
    And we support your letter to the Appropriations Committee 
to get this money out and get these programs going as quickly 
as possible. We are way behind here and it is--I am glad that 
everyone is paying attention now, but we have been screaming it 
from the rooftops for over a decade.
    Ms. Gillen. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Nelson.
    Mr. Bolen, in 2022, you submitted written testimony to this 
committee on some of the work your association is doing to 
mitigate the impact of aviation noise on local communities. In 
that testimony, you mentioned the importance of the FAA's Next 
Generation Air Transportation System initiative, or NextGen.
    In last year's bipartisan FAA Reauthorization Act, Congress 
required the FAA to expedite the implementation of a number of 
NextGen programs and to develop a plan to accelerate the 
acquisition rates of NextGen systems in commercial aircraft 
fleets. Unfortunately, the FAA has failed to meet its deadline, 
leaving communities like mine vulnerable to the harmful impacts 
of aviation noise.
    How important is it that the FAA implement this provision, 
and what else can we do to mitigate the impacts of aviation 
noise?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think that what we have seen is that 
when we began focusing on flight plans, the idea was to bring 
everything together so that everything would be neat. The 
problem with that is it has exacerbated some of the noise over 
specific areas. So we have done intentional displacements to 
try to spread that and make the impact less significant.
    But we do see that there are opportunities to potentially 
hold aircraft higher longer is one of the ways that we believe 
that that noise impact can be reduced. We also believe deeply 
in working with the communities to make sure we understand what 
their concerns are and they understand what the pilots are safe 
flying through as well. We don't want to compromise safety, but 
we do want to fly friendly, and that is why we have set up a 
number of working groups at various airports. Teterboro Users 
Group, for example, is one of those where we work to have a 
dialogue, and the FAA has helped facilitate that.
    But clearly, there is more work to do to find the proper 
balance between flying safely and flying as a good neighbor.
    Ms. Gillen. Thank you.
    And just following up on that, in terms of crowded airspace 
like the airspace over my district where you have flights 
coming into LaGuardia, to JFK--also in that airspace is Newark 
as well--is it possible to mitigate noise with rerouting since 
it is such a crowded airspace?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, obviously, that congestion creates 
challenges, and that is, as you have articulated, some of the 
busiest and most complex airspace in the country. I think, 
again, focusing on how do we operate safely but where can we 
find additional ways to be more neighborly is an appropriate 
endeavor.
    Ms. Gillen. Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentlelady yields.
    I now recognize Dr. Onder for 5 minutes.
    Dr. Onder. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thanks to all the witnesses here today.
    Mr. Pleasance, you raised serious concerns about the misuse 
of ADS-B data in lawsuits and fee collection. Could you 
elaborate on the privacy and safety risks of these practices?
    Mr. Pleasance. Absolutely. Aircraft equipped with ADS-B 
basically put out a signal that includes a lot of information. 
It could be altitude, the speed of the aircraft, as well as the 
registration number, the N-Number of the aircraft, and that is 
essentially visible to anybody who has got a receiver to 
receive that data, which is very easily obtained.
    And we are now beginning to see increasing evidence. There 
was one not that long ago up in the Seattle area, just north of 
Seattle, for example, where an individual was served with a 
lawsuit for an aircraft that had flown over his house, not low. 
He was up at several thousand feet. But because the person on 
the ground is not someone who enjoys aircraft, he got the ADS-B 
data, was able to identify who that was that was flying the 
airplane, and filed a lawsuit for harassment.
    And he won't win the lawsuit, but that is an example of the 
burden on that pilot where in a sense his privacy has been 
violated, and he is now having to defend what was a completely 
legal activity.
    Dr. Onder. Yes, I face--I am a pilot myself, and one day, a 
fellow pilot came over to my hangar and told me a story. This 
is Spirit of St. Louis Airport in Chesterfield. And yes, he 
flew about 2,000 feet above a plane, and he got a demand 
letter, not a lawsuit but a demand letter.
    I understand also there are cases of airports or FBOs using 
ADS-B data to enforce landing fees. Is this----
    Mr. Pleasance [interrupting]. Correct. There is increasing 
prevalence of that around the country where because the ADS-B, 
as I said earlier, can be collected by essentially anybody, 
that data is being used to assess various forms of fees. 
Oftentimes, it is landing fees.
    And our concern is less that an airport charges landing 
fees. They are allowed to do that. We do care about them being 
fair and reasonable. Our bigger concern is the fact that ADS-B 
data is being used for that, which creates a deterrent. If you 
are a pilot that has not yet implemented ADS-B in your 
aircraft, you hear these stories, whether it is about these 
frivolous lawsuits or about collection of fees, and it becomes 
a disincentive to employing that technology on your aircraft.
    And we at AOPA are very supportive of ADS-B. It is a good 
technology. It does increase safety in the airspace system, and 
we would like to see more people choosing to employ it, and 
these kinds of activities are directly against that, which, in 
the end, ultimately reduce safety.
    Dr. Onder. And, of course, ADS-B--and maybe you could 
elaborate on this--isn't required everywhere.
    Mr. Pleasance. Correct.
    Dr. Onder. But, as the AOPA, as a private pilot, the FAA, 
we would like to see pilots using it everywhere. But, in a way, 
we are creating an incentive--this cottage industry 
monetizing--because it is my understanding that businesses are 
coming to FBOs and the airports and saying, ``Look, we will 
help you enforce your landing fees with ADS-B data.'' We are 
creating an incentive for not only pilots who maybe have older 
planes that don't have ADS-B data now, but also planes that do, 
pilots to turn the ADS-B off by flipping the breaker.
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes. Yes, that can happen. We, of course, 
don't encourage that.
    Dr. Onder. Of course not.
    Mr. Pleasance. We don't like that to happen.
    Dr. Onder. Of course not.
    Mr. Pleasance. But that does create an incentive in the 
system for those kinds of behaviors.
    And you are right, ADS-B is not required everywhere. There 
are many places out in the middle of the country that are far 
from other airports and far from other aircraft. And so there 
are still a number of airplanes that do not have ADS-B 
installed. And the kinds of activities that we are talking 
about here are absolutely a deterrent to putting that 
technology in.
    Dr. Onder. So the AOPA has expressed concern about a 
patchwork of State laws to restrict ADS-B data misuse. How many 
and which States have implemented their own laws to address 
this issue?
    Mr. Pleasance. It's early days, but Montana, for example, 
just passed a law that prohibits the use of ADS-B for 
collecting of landing fees--or fees in general----
    Dr. Onder [interposing]. Right.
    Mr. Pleasance [continuing]. Not just landing fees.
    I know it is going through the legislature in Minnesota at 
this time. I know there was a hearing on this exact topic in 
Pennsylvania just yesterday. And so it is beginning to 
basically expand around the country.
    Of course, our concern is that--on one hand, we are happy 
that the States are taking notice of this and are concerned, as 
we are. We are also, though, concerned about a patchwork of 
different laws around the country that just create a level of 
complexity that is not as good as if this was a national----
    Dr. Onder [interrupting]. So this situation begs for a 
Federal approach?
    Mr. Pleasance. I think so. Absolutely.
    Dr. Onder. Thank you.
    Mr. Pleasance. Thank you.
    Dr. Onder. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Carbajal for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Ms. Nelson, our Nation's aviation workforce is critical to 
maintaining the safety of our Nation's airspace. This committee 
took action to assert the importance of this workforce by 
including various safety improvements in the bipartisan FAA 
reauthorization.
    One of the issues that we took action on was the response 
to cabin air safety and dealing with the toxic fumes created by 
engine exhaust and fuel fumes. Congress required the FAA to 
create a system for in-flight crew and mechanics to report fume 
events.
    Has the FAA moved forward with implementing this 
requirement?
    Ms. Nelson. No.
    Mr. Carbajal. And are they going to be doing that in the 
near future?
    Ms. Nelson. So we hope that they are going to move on this 
more swiftly, because we need this reporting feature right now. 
We are taking those reports in through our union.
    Mr. Carbajal. Are you aware of any timeline that they have 
come up with?
    Ms. Nelson. I am not aware.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Ms. Nelson, as a member of this committee, we have heard 
from various stakeholders about the impacts the indiscriminate 
budget and staffing cuts have had on aviation safety.
    One of the issues you flag are the cuts to the National 
Weather Service. For the benefit of everyone here and everyone 
listening, can you elaborate further on how cuts by DOGE to the 
National Weather Service impact safety?
    Ms. Nelson. Yes. And I have an update to my testimony as 
well, because shining a spotlight on this has appeared that 
there has been an effort to try to restore the vacant positions 
that were created by DOGE with these incentives for people to 
leave. But we are bringing on new people to fill these 
positions who have not been trained, who will have to get up to 
speed.
    And the problem is that we need to be providing real-time 
updates to ATC and to our pilots and our dispatchers about 
these weather conditions so that we can predict this and start 
planning in advance. So this undercuts our ability to plan and 
also to address issues like trying to plan to avoid turbulence, 
which is a major, major threat in my workplace for very serious 
injury.
    Mr. Carbajal. So it increases safety risks?
    Ms. Nelson. It increases safety risks, yes.
    And I do appreciate, though, the focus on this, because it 
appears that the pressure is working to try to fix this. But in 
an effort to create efficiencies, we have created an incredible 
inefficiency, because now we are replacing these positions with 
people who need to be trained up and get up to speed on how to 
do the work.
    And so, if they would have just slowed down and talked to 
the people on the front lines about how to make these systems 
better and work efficiently, as we have done in the past, we 
may have had a better outcome here.
    Mr. Carbajal. Well, thank you. I think you highlight the 
fact that, in the pursuit of finding efficiencies, the process 
was way inefficient to do so. So, I appreciate you sharing 
that.
    Ms. Nelson. Inefficient and unsafe. It added safety risk, I 
should say.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Pleasance, we know that we need to modernize our air 
traffic control system. The system needs to continue to enhance 
safety and promote innovation.
    Can you elaborate further from your organization's 
perspective on why we need to modernize this system?
    Mr. Pleasance. Absolutely.
    The challenges we face today are decades in the making. 
This is not something that occurred since January or even in 
the last 5 or 10 years.
    We, as a Nation, have built, I call it, a patchwork of 
technologies that enable the airspace system to operate today. 
As has been said earlier, it is the safest airspace system in 
the world, so, it has worked.
    However, because it is a patchwork and you have got 
technologies some of which are decades old--and I have seen the 
evidence of floppy disks being used--you have got a network--
and I am an IT guy by background. I spent 20 years in the IT 
industry. We have allowed ourselves, probably because of 
funding-related constraints and others, to build a patchwork of 
technologies that are incredibly expensive to maintain because 
of the gap in new technology and old technology and having to 
have them all work together.
    And we have not taken, I will call it, a holistic view on 
what should the future of general aviation look like--or, not 
general aviation, but the future of the air traffic control 
system look like, and how do we put in place a system that 
actually is built for a purpose, including eliminating the old 
technologies that, to date, we have dragged along from year to 
year to year and, with it, an enormous amount of overhead and 
maintenance costs.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Are you aware that, as part of the reconciliation, the fees 
were raised on hybrids and electric vehicles, but only half of 
the money is going towards modernizing some of our systems, the 
other half is actually going for other things?
    Mr. Pleasance. I was not aware of that, no.
    Mr. Carbajal. Thank you.
    Mr. Chair, I am out of time. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Mann for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Mann. Thank you, Chairman Nehls, and thanks for having 
this hearing today.
    Thank you all again for being here and being willing to 
testify.
    I represent the First District--the Big First district of 
Kansas. Aviation is a critical industry in Kansas, as you all 
know, with roughly 100 general aviation airports, several 
commercial and regional airports, a huge footprint in aviation 
and aerospace manufacturing.
    The FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 included critical 
provisions to ensure that our aviation industries are able to 
improve services, bolster our workforce, and promote American 
innovation.
    Just a handful of questions for you, Mr. Bolen.
    As you know firsthand, Kansas plays a vital role in general 
aviation, from aircraft manufacturing to training our next 
generation of pilots. As we look back 1 year after FAA 
reauthorization, where do you see the most critical 
opportunities or shortcomings in implementing workforce 
provisions, particularly those workforce provisions aimed at 
strengthening technical education and expanding aviation 
careers in the rural part of our country?
    Mr. Bolen. Yes, I think the bill was excellent in outlining 
the importance of workforce and in funding certain grant 
programs. The aviation maintenance technician program and the 
pilot pathway program are two outstanding examples of the focus 
on aviation careers that is necessary.
    And I think what we are seeing in Kansas is a good example. 
Salina particularly, with Kansas State Salina, with its focus 
on emerging technologies--AAM, unmanned systems--shows that, as 
our industry is evolving, so too are the career opportunities.
    I think the hard part for us is making sure people are 
aware of those opportunities. I think a lot of people do not 
see themselves as part of aviation, but particularly as new 
technologies are coming in, that has the ability to captivate 
and motivate people. I think we are seeing this as advanced air 
mobility is really beginning to draw attention. Drones, 
commercial space launch--there are a lot of opportunities.
    The more people are aware of it, the more we have an 
ability to recruit, develop, and retain the best and the 
brightest, wherever they are from.
    Mr. Mann. I agree.
    Which goes right into my next question. You mentioned 
Salina, where you grew up, my hometown. Salina has become a 
test bed for emerging aviation technologies, including unmanned 
systems and advanced air mobility.
    A year after FAA reauthorization, how well, in your view, 
has the agency done in supporting innovation hubs like Salina 
by providing the regulatory clarity and infrastructure support 
needed to scale these technologies and ensure long-term 
industry competitiveness?
    Mr. Bolen. Yes, I think what we are seeing is, the FAA is 
recognizing the importance of innovation and the importance of 
bringing new technologies forward.
    And so, whether it is signing the SFAR to enable advanced 
air mobility operations or the focus that we are seeing placed 
by this administration on things like the drone technologies, 
coming forward with the BVLOS rules, I think all of that 
suggests that there is a need for hubs, as we like to call 
them, places where industry, academia, and Government can come 
together. And Kansas State Salina is an example of that.
    Mr. Mann. Yes. Yes.
    Last question, again for you, Mr. Bolen. A little different 
direction.
    In your testimony, you discussed the urgent need to 
overhaul our Nation's air traffic control system, which this 
committee has talked a lot about. You brought up the topic of 
ATC privatization. You mentioned Nav Canada is often hailed as 
an example of a system that works but that it actually 
overpromises and underdelivers.
    What did you mean by that?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think there are a couple things inherent 
in that.
    One, ICAO, the International Civil Aviation Organization, 
has done a safety audit of Canada, and what they concluded was 
that it was operating, on a scale of 100, at about 65 percent. 
It is the lowest rating of any G7 country, and it is lower than 
38 other countries. So safety is an issue. And they talk about 
the inability of Transport Canada to really oversee Nav Canada, 
the air traffic system.
    We also see reports coming out about terrible shortages in 
air traffic controllers, delays that are coming out. We saw 
just last week a pilot got on the microphone and said, ``We are 
being delayed because we don't have enough air traffic 
controllers.'' And then it focused on an operator and owner of 
a small airport in Vancouver that talked about ``20-minute to 
2-hour delays are routine,'' and they are only flying 20-minute 
legs.
    Mr. Mann. Ah.
    Mr. Bolen. So I think a lot has gotten ahead of itself 
about what they have in Canada. The reality is, the United 
States has the largest, the safest, the most efficient, and the 
most diverse mix of aircraft and operations in the world. This 
is about finding ways that America, our innovation, and our 
ingenuity can take us forward.
    Mr. Mann. Yes.
    Well, thank you for the insights, and thank you all for 
being here.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Garcia for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. Thank you, Chairman, Ranking 
Member, and, of course, the witnesses here today.
    Ms. Nelson, I appreciate you including in your testimony an 
update on section 438 of the FAA bill, requiring the GAO to 
complete a review of airport service workforce. And they have 
committed to comply with its due date later this year.
    I agree with you, airport workers are the foundation of our 
air travel system, and for too long, they have been denied a 
living wage and benefits like paid time off or healthcare.
    GAO recently updated us on this review, and they stated 
that it would be formally issued in September.
    Of course, this is just the first step. A public working 
group needs to be convened by DOT to discuss the report's 
findings and inform ways to further support this workforce.
    Ms. Nelson, why is it important that the Department of 
Transportation convene this working group to discuss the 
analysis, one? And why are better wage and benefit standards, 
as my Good Jobs for Good Airports bill would accomplish, 
important for our air travel system?
    Ms. Nelson. Thank you very much for the question, 
Congressman Garcia.
    So, first and foremost, every single person, from the 
people who are working in the kitchens to the people who are 
pushing the wheelchairs, they are all part of the safety 
ecosystem. And, in many cases, these are jobs that are low-
paid, usually without benefits.
    What we see is that, when workers can get a credential to 
work at the airport, that oftentimes they will get jobs doing 
several different things in the airport and sleep at the gates 
in between shifts. This is a problem with fatigue, with missing 
something, with making a mistake. It also leaves us vulnerable, 
because people become desperate. And so it is not good safety 
culture to set people up for failure in their lives.
    And I have real concerns just in terms of aviation and how 
we are lifting everyone up in that space and helping everyone 
understand that we are doing something together. We can't do 
something together when some people are treated as second- and 
third-class citizens, without benefits, without the ability to 
pay for their homes, and without public transportation to be 
able to get back and forth between their homes.
    They oftentimes will go days without seeing their families 
because they can't afford to go home and come back for these 
shifts that they have to work in order to just keep people fed 
and in a home oftentimes with many families.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. Thank you, Ms. Nelson.
    Recent incidents, including the tragic collision over DCA, 
remind us how urgent it is for full implementation of the FAA 
bill.
    At Midway Airport in my district in Chicago earlier this 
year, a Southwest Airlines flight had to perform a go-around to 
avoid a jet that had crossed the runway. I am grateful for the 
pilots and the actions taken to avoid a potential disaster.
    It is another reminder of the importance of upholding 
strong safety standards in our aviation system. This includes 
updating obsolete equipment. The surface surveillance radar 
used at Midway Airport is composed of parts that are no longer 
being made, forcing the airport to look for replacement parts 
at other airports.
    Captain Reven, can you tell us what can be done to prevent 
runway incursions like the one that occurred at Midway in the 
future?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congressman.
    You hit it on the head to start with. The surveillance 
equipment has got to be updated. The line of sight has got to 
be worked out with the towers.
    One of the things I heard in the testimony before this body 
last was a very disturbing--we spend 90 percent on our legacy 
equipment and 10 percent on innovation. That has to change.
    And then the last one I would put the plug for: It is 
absolutely essential to have two pilots in a commercial 
aircraft, a two-pilot complement, this pilot monitoring.
    And then, also, there were some things that came out of 
that where there was an narrative that, ``Oh, the pilots were 
disregarding somehow the air traffic controller, and they need 
to be punished.'' Like I said, it's a collaboration, it's 
teamwork, it's a positive safety culture of reporting and 
learning from one another--so all of those kind of holistically 
together.
    But the 90 percent/10 percent was really alarming to hear 
from the air traffic controllers testifying in this last 
hearing. We have to get that shifted.
    Mr. Garcia of Illinois. Thank you.
    And, again, thanks to all the witnesses.
    My time is up. I yield back, Chairman.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Knott for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Knott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    To the witnesses, thank you all for being here. This has 
been a very productive discussion.
    I have some questions that I would love to ask, but, before 
that, let me just reiterate that, from my district, the 13th of 
North Carolina, there are small airports all over my district, 
all over the State. They are regional airports, North Carolina, 
even international airports. And we certainly appreciate all 
the contributions that each of you make to having a safer 
aviation environment.
    I will want to discuss this, though. There is obviously the 
need to discuss appropriations, but there is also the need to 
discuss the efficiencies.
    And, Captain, you just mentioned that we are committed to 
antiquated technologies and so forth. And, internally, it seems 
like there are some very real inefficiencies and some 
sluggishness.
    And in terms of rebuilding the processes internally so that 
the FAA can have more flexibility, I would love to go down that 
line, if we could.
    And, Mr. Bolen, I will start with you. Given your 
experience, what are some ways that, I mean, quite literally, 
we can avoid having to require an act of Congress to go from 
floppy disks to cloud servers? Like, how can we give the 
flexibility needed to the agency to modernize and progress?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think the FAA bill gave some pretty 
clear directions on the importance of digitization of a number 
of the processes. We literally had a situation where a piece of 
paper could be buried on a desk and people weren't coming to 
the office so nothing was going anywhere. The digitization is 
going to be a big help.
    I think some of the leadership is also really important. We 
have talked about the medicals, for example. And I know the 
flight surgeon, Dr. Northrup, has talked about how important it 
is to be able to track where your things are. You shouldn't be 
able to know more about a pizza being delivered to your home 
than where your medical is----
    Mr. Knott [interposing]. Right.
    Mr. Bolen [continuing]. In the process. So I think those 
are some of the opportunities.
    And then I think what has been described as kind of the 
``build the new system'' and be able to gather all of the 
efficiencies from better connectivity, better situational 
awareness throughout the system.
    Mr. Knott. What are the ways to check and to make sure that 
those implementations are being done efficiently so that we 
don't add to the waste, but we remove waste, in your 
experience?
    Mr. Bolen. And I think that is exactly what we are doing 
here today. When this oversight committee brings oversight and 
is able specifically, like you were a couple weeks ago, to ask 
the FAA, ``Where is this report that said you will do the 
following things?''
    And I think what you are asking them to do is very 
intentional to drive results that are going to increase safety 
and increase efficiency.
    Mr. Knott. Yes.
    Mr. Pleasance, I want to ask you a few questions. I saw in 
your biography that you are a former bush pilot in Alaska. And 
there are lots of small-plane pilots in North Carolina. I have 
had the chance to use bush pilots in Alaska. They are the best 
pilots in the world, in many respects.
    In your opinion, is the FAA sufficiently accommodating 
those, sort of, legacy pilots with freedom and flexibility and 
really avoiding the sophistication required to go through a 
bureaucratic rigmarole that seems to be the case for newer, 
younger pilots?
    Mr. Pleasance. I think so in general. I mean, the current 
environment, especially as MOSAIC, I hope, gets across the line 
this summer, there have been innovations like MOSAIC that will 
make it easier for young pilots to get into aviation and learn 
in small aircraft that lower the overall cost, the burden 
basically, to become a pilot.
    I think the rules in general so far have remained quite 
open to making it easy for people who do want to do back-
country flying. You have organizations like the Recreational 
Aviation Foundation whose whole mission is to preserve these 
back-country airports around the world--or, around the country.
    Mr. Knott. Yes.
    Mr. Pleasance. And I think they have done a good job. And 
the FAA, from what I have seen, has so far been generally 
supportive of that.
    Mr. Knott. Great. And if that ever ceases to be the case, I 
trust you will let us know.
    Mr. Pleasance. Oh, we would raise that very quickly.
    Mr. Knott. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Pleasance. One thing I might add, if you don't mind, 
just to Mr. Bolen's comment, too.
    You asked about efficiency, and from an IT perspective, I 
do think there is a preponderance of intention in the FAA, 
historically at least, to customize what gets put in. 
Everything has to be just exactly the way they need it. And 
having done a lot of work in IT over the years, to the extent 
that they can take more commercial off-the-shelf and not try to 
customize every single thing, that will be an important step 
forward and a more efficient implementation of the systems.
    Mr. Knott. Yes.
    Captain Reven, just briefly, I have heard from numerous 
pilots that there is a great need for the medical office reform 
in the FAA, that they still utilize snail mail, which was just 
astounding to me to hear, and that pilots can be placed on 
inadvertent leave for 6, 7 weeks just from a process 
standpoint.
    How can we improve that process for the pilots?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congressman.
    First, I would like to take exception to your comment about 
bush pilots being the best pilots.
    [Laughter.]
    After that, I would say that that work is underway. There 
is improvement. And like Ms. Nelson said earlier, these 
problems are 10 years old.
    Mr. Knott. Yes.
    Mr. Reven. We are starting to, kind of, see the light. With 
this 53-person coalition, we are all kind of pulling from the 
same side of the rope now, and we are seeing great 
improvements.
    Some of the ones that we have seen at Southwest Airlines, 
some of our pain points have been deferrals versus denials and 
then just the timeliness of, hey, what do I need to get in to 
make sure that my physical is deferred. And, unfortunately, 
that could come at a time where your physical is due.
    Mr. Knott. Yes.
    Mr. Reven. So you are not on any type of benefit, but you 
are sitting at home without a qualification.
    So, Dr. Northrup's office has been fantastic about trying 
to work these onesie-twosies. But we still have that situation 
in the pipeline where it is one big stack with both general 
aviation and with professional aviators. So we are trying to 
kind of work through that with her office.
    Mr. Knott. Great. Thank you, sir.
    My time is over. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Ms. Pou for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Pou. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I am very happy that this committee is continuing to focus 
on the critical issue of airline safety by ensuring full 
implementation of the FAA Reauthorization Act.
    Last month, I was proud to join the subcommittee chair, the 
vice chair, and the ranking member in seeking robust funding 
for FAA operations and for the equipment that they use to 
safely direct flights.
    This is in addition to the emergency supplemental funding I 
called for, with many of my New Jersey colleagues, to address 
the technology and equipment failures that have lead to the 
delays and chaos at the Newark Airport. This funding is 
absolutely vital in helping to resolve the disruption at Newark 
and airports around the country.
    I appreciate all of our witnesses for highlighting the 
continued need for FAA to implement critical provisions from 
their reauthorization.
    Mr. Bolen, if I may start with you, I represent Teterboro 
Airport, which is an important business aviation hub. The 
breakdown at the Philadelphia TRACON has impacted airports 
around the Northeast, including Teterboro.
    Is FAA doing enough to manage the telecom failures in the 
short and long term? And how will modernizing the air traffic 
control improve communication systems and the subsequent 
effects of these systems' breakdown?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think, when we look at Newark, we 
understand that the failure largely was a result of copper 
wires. There were two lines of redundancy. We now are adding a 
third line; we are bringing in fiber optics.
    So, in that specific instance, I think we are moving 
forward. And I think that's an example of what we need to be 
doing across the country, making sure that we have the 
infrastructure, whether it's fiber, whether it's radios, 
whether it's radar.
    I do think we will also have an opportunity, because 
situational awareness will improve, we will be able to be more 
precise in how we are moving the aircraft. And while congestion 
is congestion, we will be able to see more opportunities to 
have more precise routings that can allow different options to 
be able to shorten ground holds and to be able to move forward.
    Ms. Pou. All right. Well, thank you. Thank you for that.
    Quickly--and I know--I want to just try--I have several 
questions, so I am going to quickly go to Captain Reven.
    You have advocated for air traffic controllers to have 
access to the flight deck as part of their training. How would 
that improve safety? And how do you believe Congress can help 
in that regard?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congresswoman.
    It is about teamwork. As I said earlier, this is an 
orchestrated ground ops, pilots, flight attendants, air traffic 
control all safely taking you from A to B.
    We do this with our dispatchers. Our dispatchers ride 
upfront. And so the messages they send us, the weight and 
balance they provide, the fuel--they are able to see, when they 
ride on a quarterly basis, what it is we are looking at on our 
side of the radio. And it helps us to form that, sort of, 
shared mental model of how we are doing business.
    The same thing could be done--and air traffic controllers 
used to be able to do this--where they would ride in the 
cockpit, and they are giving us instructions, but now they can 
see what we see on our screen.
    Ms. Pou. Right.
    Mr. Reven. And so it is very helpful for that teamwork type 
of model that we have for them to be able to have that access.
    So, what you could do would be to expedite the security 
process that they would go through to be able to do that.
    Ms. Pou. Thank you. Thank you so very much.
    And, quickly, I have this question for Ms. Nelson.
    In your testimony, you highlighted two provisions in the 
reauthorization where you aren't aware of any progress from 
FAA, with regards to the turbulence-related injuries and 
radiation exposure.
    Can you please share how these risks can, in fact, harm 
crewmembers and what type of information you are hoping to see 
included in the required reports?
    Ms. Nelson. Thank you very much for the question.
    Turbulence is a very, very serious injury, potential 
injury, in the cabin. And we have a lot of flight attendants 
who are harmed by this. So implementing these procedures and 
best practices is critically important if we want to keep 
injury rates down and if we want to move forward to try to 
avoid the potential of injury for passengers as well.
    In terms of the radiation, we do almost nothing in this 
country. And as I said earlier, there is a radiation exposure 
form that you could go to and check your potential radiation 
exposure on the FAA site. That link is currently not working. 
So we are going backwards instead of forwards with the bill.
    Ms. Pou. Well, that is a shame, and we certainly need to do 
something about that. Thank you so very much.
    Oh, it looks like I still have, real quickly----
    Mr. Nehls [interrupting]. You are actually on the other 
side of that.
    Ms. Pou. Oh, I am sorry. No?
    Mr. Nehls. No. You are over.
    Ms. Pou. I yield back. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Nehls. Thank you so very much.
    Mr. Begich, you are recognized.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Just a few stats about my home State of Alaska. Eighty-two 
percent of communities are not on a road system. Three hundred 
and ninety-one public use airports. We have the second most 
airports of any State in the United States, but we are 48th in 
terms of population. So air service is essential in Alaska.
    I appreciate the committee holding this important hearing 
on the Federal Aviation Administration, as safe and efficient 
air transportation is important for all Americans.
    Specifically, I want to point out that Essential Air 
Service is critical for 65 rural and remote communities in my 
home State of Alaska. EAS is vital for rural connectivity, 
access to healthcare, and economic development.
    This program supports communities across my State like 
Adak, Akutan, and Saint Paul, and many other remote locations 
that lack any viable alternative transportation options. The 
program sustains access to basic services and economic 
opportunities in regions that otherwise would be cut off 
entirely.
    It is also important to point out that many of the smaller 
and more remote airports in Alaska and in the rest of the 
United States are close to and serve the regions where major 
oil and gas, mineral, timber, fisheries, and other resource 
development activities take place or will take place as we 
unleash our energy potential.
    So, with that as a backdrop, first, I am going to start 
with Mr. Pleasance.
    Alaska's unique dependence on aviation for daily life and 
economic activity is unlike any other State, as you are well 
acquainted. What are the most critical FAA investments or 
policy actions that can directly improve safety and service 
reliability for Alaska's rural communities?
    Mr. Pleasance. Great. Thank you for the question.
    Yes, there is no more beautiful place in the world than 
Alaska. And I had the privilege of living in Talkeetna for a 
while, and Anchorage, and then essentially getting to see 
almost the entire State--never quite as far as Adak, but almost 
everywhere else.
    As you said, it is a very expansive geography, and so 
access to weather information is one of the most critical 
technologies that could be implemented. And I know the FAA has 
been doing that, but I think there is more that could be done, 
whether that is the ASOS at airports that provide localized 
weather and real-time weather or the webcams that are 
increasingly being rolled out across the State that just make 
it easier to understand weather, especially through passes that 
get used by virtually every pilot going from west to east or 
east to west across the Alaska Range.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you.
    And just to expand on that a little bit, are there any 
policies or implementation areas where rural States like Alaska 
need additional flexibility or targeted resources to meet their 
safety and operational needs?
    Mr. Pleasance. I mean, the one that I am most aware of 
right now would be around, for instance, this transition to 
unleaded fuels. There are some very unique requirements up in 
Alaska. Fuel is only delivered typically twice a year on barges 
when the rivers aren't frozen. And so getting replacements of 
fuels, as we make this transition to unleaded fuels, Alaska 
needs to be taken into consideration with a very unique 
understanding of the constraints that the State faces.
    Mr. Begich. You are 100 percent right, and I appreciate you 
bringing that up. That is a top priority for us.
    One additional question, and this one directed to Mr. 
Robbins.
    Mr. Robbins, how might we leverage advanced aviation 
technologies like drones or hybrid aircraft to make EAS routes 
more sustainable and reliable in Alaska's challenging weather 
and geography?
    Mr. Robbins. Yes. Thank you very much for that question, 
Congressman.
    And, actually, in preparation for this hearing, I connected 
with Cathy Cahill, who is the director of the UAS test site in 
your State and truly--she has testified before this committee 
before--and truly a leader in trying to achieve exactly what 
you are talking about, which is being able to use drones and 
other autonomous systems in places that are otherwise dangerous 
or very hard to reach, whether that is for package delivery, 
whether that is for medical delivery.
    There are some really unique use cases on emergency 
response as well as search and rescue, being able to put up 
high-altitude, long-range endurance autonomous systems to find 
people that are lost or to deliver something like an AED or 
something like that that's required.
    So, Cathy is leading the way in Alaska and, frankly, 
throughout the entire country, and we are very proud of her 
leadership.
    Mr. Begich. Well, I appreciate that, and I appreciate your 
due diligence in reaching out to her. She is a leader. She has 
testified before this committee. We certainly enjoy hearing 
from her when she has comments to share or new research to 
share.
    And please reach out to our office if you see some ways 
that we could start working on some of these technologies 
together.
    Mr. Robbins. There are some challenges, so we will reach 
out. Thank you, sir.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you very much.
    And, with that, I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Ms. Scholten for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Scholten. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and Madam Ranking 
Member.
    And welcome, to our distinguished panel of witnesses. We 
really appreciate your time today and your commitment to making 
our airways as strong and safe as they can be.
    I am so proud of our committee's work on the bipartisan FAA 
reauthorization of 2024. At a time of immense gridlock and 
infighting in Washington, I often point to our work on that 
bill as a beacon of hope.
    And it is more important now than ever that this law is 
swiftly implemented so that that good work does not go to 
waste. We have the safest and most complex aviation system in 
the world, and we have to work together to keep it that way.
    So the committee's bipartisan FAA reauthorization included 
vital enhancements for the aviation workforce development 
program, as you well know. However, the implementation of this 
critical program seems to be lagging.
    It is my understanding that the fourth round of 
applications submitted by the February deadline for the 
existing pilot and maintenance grants are now in limbo, with 
applicants being told that they will have to resubmit once a 
revised notice of funding opportunity is issued, whenever that 
may be.
    Meanwhile, we have seen no movement in standing up the new 
aviation manufacturing elements of the program, something that 
is critically important to my district.
    Mr. Pleasance, have you or members of your organization 
received any updates or insights from the FAA about the status 
of these workforce development initiatives? And if not, how is 
the delayed implementation hindering workforce development 
efforts that are necessary to bolster aviation safety?
    Mr. Pleasance. So we have been part of the effort to 
embrace the workforce development intentions behind the 
language that was in the--I think it was the NCAA, National 
Center for the Advancement of Aviation. I don't believe it got 
implemented last year. It got included in what was sent to the 
Senate. So in the final bill, at least as I understand, it was 
not included.
    However, we have been recipients of the grant coming out of 
those efforts, and we have our high school program, for 
example, that was mentioned earlier. We have had over 100,000 
young individuals, high schoolers, who have gone through that 
program. And it touches on not just becoming a pilot, but all 
the various professions in the world of aviation, including 
maintenance.
    So, in progress there. However, as I understand, it is 
nowhere near what was intended originally. And from what I 
understand, at least, the FAA is not set up currently to truly 
be able to implement this. They don't have the workforce 
themselves in place, the dedicated resources in place to 
actually execute on the intentions of this plan. So I think 
they are falling short.
    Ms. Scholten. Yes. And what, if any, impacts do you see 
that currently having now? Or if these delays continue, what 
impacts would you foresee?
    Mr. Pleasance. Well, I think, yes, there are impacts now, 
in the sense that there are people who are not getting 
opportunities to develop skills that would allow them to 
participate in this aviation ecosystem you just described.
    And as was said earlier by Mr. Bolen, there are people out 
there today that would absolutely benefit that just don't even 
know about these programs.
    Ms. Scholten. Yes.
    Mr. Pleasance. So that is part of what we are doing at 
AOPA, is try to get the word out that there are enormous 
opportunities in the world of aviation.
    There are programs like our high school program and others 
that seek to help educate these younger folks around the 
opportunities there, but there is a lot more that could be 
done. And I think this program that is not yet fully going is a 
gap.
    Ms. Scholten. I couldn't agree more, the need in the 
workforce and the incredible opportunity that it would provide 
for so many of our young people. Well, we will keep asking the 
questions----
    Mr. Pleasance [interposing]. Please.
    Ms. Scholten [continuing]. And doing what we can to provide 
the oversight to move these programs ahead.
    One more question. My district is home to several 
innovative domestic aviation manufacturers, as I referenced in 
my question. Unfortunately, the administration's imprecise 
trade policies, including the President's recent calls to 
double tariffs on imported steel and aluminum, are harming the 
very manufacturing base they claim to defend.
    To help navigate the White House's chaotic, ever-evolving 
trade measures, I am working on legislation to best support 
American workers and manufacturers while lowering costs for 
consumers across the country. This is critical.
    Mr. Bolen, can you touch on how proposed or implemented 
tariffs are impacting your members' businesses?
    Mr. Bolen. Well, I think one way to look at it is to look 
at what has happened over the last 45 years when we had over 30 
countries operating in basically a duty-free environment.
    So, the 1980 Agreement on Trade in Civil Aircraft has been 
able to help the United States dominate virtually every aspect 
of aviation. We have $120 billion that comes in every year as a 
result of our exports. The flip of that is we spend about $20 
billion. So it is over $100 billion to our economy when we are 
operating with free, fair, reciprocal trade.
    And that is something that NBAA and, I think, a lot of 
others submitted for comment yesterday as the section 232 
hearings or investigation is underway at the Commerce 
Department and certainly something that we have made clear. 
With that agreement, we have seen that fair, free, reciprocal 
trade allows the U.S. to dominate, as we have in every aspect 
of aviation for decades.
    Ms. Scholten. Thank you.
    My time has expired. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentlelady yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Bresnahan for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Bresnahan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I would like to underscore a major theme of today's 
hearing: safety. Aerospace safety is very personal to me. I am 
a licensed certificate holder for rotorcraft as well as a part 
107 holder. And in the spirit of full transparency, I am a 
dues-paying member of your organization.
    I represent northeastern Pennsylvania, which is 
approximately 120 miles away from Newark, where we have five 
airports within sight of our congressional district. We have 
Wyoming Valley, Cherry Ridge, Mount Pocono, Wilkes-Barre/
Scranton International Airport, as well as Hazleton, where I 
also had the privilege of visiting the TRACON over the weekend 
as well as the air traffic control tower and really got to see 
firsthand--it was the first time I was able to put a face to a 
voice of someone I speak to so frequently.
    And I know safety matters to each of us here and to the 
pilots, the flight attendants, the mechanics, air traffic 
controllers, ground crews, passengers, and the families who we 
all represent. While I wasn't in Congress last year when the 
FAA reauthorization was passed, I am proud to work alongside my 
colleagues this Congress to advance aviation safety.
    I am also very proud to have supported the $12.5 billion 
funding bump for ATC modernization in H.R. 1, as well as, 
alongside Congressman John Garamendi from California, we are 
leading a bipartisan letter asking the FAA to reject any 
proposal to allow single-pilot operations in commercial airline 
operations.
    I guess my question really surrounds ADS-B, and perhaps 
maybe with Mr. Robbins and Mr. Pleasance.
    I am a helicopter pilot. Oftentimes, I fly at relatively 
lower altitudes. And I had read in your testimony, Mr. Robbins, 
about the need for broadcasting on all various different types 
of aircrafts. And I know, obviously, in controlled airspace, we 
are more inclined and regulated to do so.
    But, Mr. Pleasance, I would be really interested to get 
your perspective on ADS-B in all airspaces. Sometimes, 
northeastern Pennsylvania, predominantly a rural area, sure, we 
have in-and-out, but aircraft comes up relatively quickly, 
specifically in darker environments, sunset environments. And I 
actually agree with the concept that we should be more 
proactive in broadcasting positions, specifically with gliders 
and rotorcraft. And now with the evolution of unmanned 
aircraft, I think it is something that we can--at least me 
personally, I would be happy to support.
    So, Mr. Pleasance, I would be interested to get your 
perspective from your organization and what you are hearing 
from your pilots.
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes. Thank you for the question.
    I think it is an important one, because we all have a 
vested interest in aerial vehicles not encountering each other 
in the sky. And I think ADS-B is a critical technology that 
enables that, enables that separation.
    And you are right, it is not required in all airspace 
around the country. But, increasingly, a lot of the lower 
altitude airspace, whether it is helicopters, aerial ag planes 
basically, crop dusters, unmanned aircraft that perhaps are out 
in these more remote locations, we want those all to avoid each 
other.
    So, I am personally and our organization is a proponent of 
ADS-B adoption, with two caveats.
    One is, I think there is an opportunity to make it easier 
to adopt basic portable ADS-B units. They use these in Europe 
all the time in balloons and hang gliders and powered 
parachutes and so on. There is no electrical system required, 
but they serve the core purpose of emitting a signal that says 
``I'm here'' and allows other aircraft to see them.
    The second one is the privacy one I mentioned earlier. 
Anything we are doing in this country that dissuades people 
from using that technology, I think, is a step backwards. And 
so, we will continue to advocate for improving the motivation 
for as many pilots as possible to adopt that technology.
    Mr. Bresnahan. Being from Pennsylvania, I am really excited 
to see the outcome of today's State legislature hearings and 
what actually unfolds behind it.
    And I also read in your testimony about the privacy 
concerns amongst pilots, and I have heard it, as well, too. And 
there is a very solid campaign right now going around at local 
FBOs about the infringement there.
    But I was wondering if there were any more concrete 
examples that you could point to where a pilot or an aircraft 
owner received a citation relevant to the ADS-B information 
that was actually sent back to the FAA, and I would be really 
interested to see some of that.
    Mr. Pleasance. Yes, absolutely. There is a very tangible 
one with a seaplane pilot up in Connecticut that was doing 
touch-and-go's on a river, and somebody called in and reported 
the aircraft for low flying. But it was, of course, taking off 
and landing, so that is what you do, is you go up and you come 
down, and you are typically not very high.
    And so there was a claim made that this pilot was flying 
exceedingly low, and the only data that was in support of that 
was ADS-B data. And, as you know, ADS-B data is only so 
accurate, because it operates off of pressure altitude and has 
to be adjusted for barometric pressure, and so what you see get 
read by the system may or may not be exactly how high that 
aircraft is off the ground.
    So that is a very tangible one where that pilot has 
currently lost their license and is fighting to get it back.
    I also get emails almost every week, one just a week ago or 
so out in the Seattle area, where there is aircraft out there 
doing perfectly legal safety training, basically turns around a 
point, and they are getting--the FAA out there, the FSDO 
office, is getting emails from a neighbor who is just not happy 
with the fact they are doing that. And they are pulling up 
pictures of that airplane and the N-Number and the ownership of 
that airplane every time. And there is not one airplane, there 
are many that go to do the training there.
    And so I think it is a further example of how--in this 
case, the FAA has not gone after the pilot. They are trying to 
educate the person on the ground. But it is creating a level 
of--a dynamic that is not helpful, let's just say, from both a 
safety as well as the fairness perspective.
    Mr. Bresnahan. I appreciate that insight.
    And I appreciate all the witnesses for being here today. 
And aeromedical reform will be a continued conversation since I 
am out of time.
    And, with that, I yield back. Thanks.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Ms. Norton for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    The tragic collision near DCA earlier this year and several 
recent near-misses at and near airports across the country 
demonstrate that swiftly implementing the safety and workforce 
provisions of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 must be a top 
priority.
    However, there are actions the Department of Transportation 
and the FAA can take beyond these provisions to improve 
aviation safety.
    For example, last month, I joined colleagues in sending a 
letter requesting report language in the Transportation 
appropriations bill directing DOT and the FAA to commission an 
independent review of airspace design, civil-military 
coordination, and operational safety in the national capital 
region.
    Ms. Nelson, do you think such an independent review would 
help improve aviation safety in the national capital region?
    Ms. Nelson. Yes, I do.
    Ms. Norton. I was deeply disappointed to hear at this 
committee's hearing last month on the FAA Reauthorization Act 
that the FAA continues to allow military and other Federal 
helicopters near DCA with their ADS-B transponders turned off.
    Despite the Acting FAA Administrator's announcement at a 
Senate hearing in March that the FAA is now requiring ADS-B 
transponders be turned on for helicopter flights in DCA class B 
airspace, FAA Deputy Chief Operating Officer Franklin McIntosh 
told this committee that helicopter flights relating to law 
enforcement, national security, or the transport of Government 
officials are [sic] required to use ADS-B transponders near 
DCA.
    Their refusal to implement this critical aviation safety 
change puts the lives of passengers, pilots, and flightcrews at 
risk.
    Last month, I sent a letter to Transportation Secretary 
Sean Duffy urging DOT to require all helicopters operating near 
DCA to use ADS-B transponders and to prohibit the use of 
helicopters for transporting Government officials in the 
national capital region, except in the case of a national 
emergency or the transport of the President and the Vice 
President.
    Captain Reven, your testimony highlighted the need to 
upgrade aviation infrastructure to utilize ADS-B transponders. 
Unfortunately, even when ADS-B transponders are present at a 
military or Federal helicopter flying in DCA airspace, there is 
a good chance they will be turned off because of the numerous 
exemptions the FAA continues to permit. Would requiring 
exemptions to turning off ADS-B transponders lower the risk of 
aviation accidents?
    Mr. Reven. Thank you for the question, Congresswoman. I 
appreciate that. And you are referring to the Automatic 
Dependent Surveillance-Broadcast that we have on our aircraft. 
And two different types, just to say. There is one that 
broadcasts out and one that receives.
    So, as captains, as pilots, we want every piece of safety 
information we can possibly get, and the more of those that are 
turned on, the better that we can see traffic. There is no 
doubt to that.
    But as far as those decisions, DOT and Department of 
Defense and FAA--it is a bit above our pay grade as far as 
national security goes. So understand that there have to be 
some balances from time to time.
    But the simple answer to your question is, the more that 
the ADS-B is turned on, the safer it is.
    Ms. Norton. Thank you.
    And I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentlelady yields.
    I now recognize Mr. Van Drew.
    Dr. Van Drew. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I wanted to talk about drones. I am going to speak about 
drones in a minute.
    I was concerned--my good friend from Georgia on the other 
side of the aisle--and he is a good guy, and I consider him a 
friend, and we have a lot of similar committees, so we debate a 
lot in Judiciary. We fancy and think that this is more of a 
nonpartisan committee.
    But there seemed to be--and, respectfully, Ms. Nelson, even 
on your part--the sense that I had when I was in here a little 
while ago, that chaos has erupted because of the new President 
and the new administration.
    And there may be some problems. There always are. And not 
everything that happened I agreed with. But let's understand, 
we are where we are for years of past activity. Let's call it 
what it is. And let's just think about the chaos.
    The chaos is when we didn't install fiber when we needed 
fiber in our airports.
    The chaos was when I went and visited air traffic 
controllers in towers and they were using floppy disks that you 
couldn't get through any of their normal means of acquisition; 
they had to go to discount stores to see if they could find 
them.
    The chaos is when you have decaying copper.
    The chaos is when you moved air traffic control from New 
York, Newark Airport--we moved it from New York to 
Philadelphia--Philadelphia, without the STARS system in place; 
Philadelphia, with decrepit, aging copper in place; 
Philadelphia, where they also, because of the reconstruction of 
the runway, had a lot of different issues and problems there as 
well.
    And on top of it, what we have had has not just resulted in 
the last 6 months. We have had a shortage of air traffic 
controllers and, for that matter, pilots, for years. We have a 
problem.
    These are the real problems and the real issues.
    And, quite frankly--and, again, I am going to be candid; 
that is the way I am--we have been worried over the past years 
about which bathrooms to use, what pronouns to use, whether we 
can call the cockpit the cockpit anymore, I mean, all this 
stuff.
    This is about infrastructure. It's about science. It's 
about staffing. It's about making sure that we do things the 
right way.
    There isn't just chaos in the last 6 months. This has been 
going on, really substantive underlying problems that need to 
be addressed. And I particularly wanted to say that because I 
heard that conversation between Ms. Nelson and Congressman 
Johnson.
    The United States is over a decade behind the rest of the 
world in drone technologies and infrastructure, and we need to 
catch up. On June 1, Ukraine launched 117 long-range, low-cost 
drones, and we saw the damage that they did. And the point of 
that is not that they shouldn't have done it, but how effective 
drones can be. And they say they only cost probably about 
$1,000 each to make.
    There is not a lot in place that would stop our enemies 
from utilizing these techniques against us as well. We know 
that Iran has drones. Some folks made fun--there is something 
called a mothership. It is not from outer space. It is these 
large ships like aircraft carriers that carry these drones.
    And we need a clear roadmap to protect our skies, to 
protect our critical infrastructure, to protect our America. 
And we have passed bipartisan laws to deal with this, but we 
have repeatedly missed crucial deadlines. Notably, section 
2209, intended to safeguard fixed sites, was enacted in 2016. 
It is 9 years later; still no rule.
    Mr. Robbins, thank you for being here today.
    Thank you all for being here.
    When do you think we can expect a rule for section 2209? 
And what is driving this delay so long?
    Mr. Robbins. Yes. Thank you very much for that question, 
Congressman. And we appreciate the ongoing dialogue with you 
and your team on this issue.
    It is our understanding that section 2209 is in a draft 
form and is currently at the White House under review. That 
rule is tied along with the beyond visual line of sight rule. 
So we are hopeful that we are going to see that draft rule 
released in the near future.
    And we have also heard that it is possible that, through an 
Executive order, the Trump administration may direct the FAA to 
move section 2209 directly to an interim final rule so that it 
takes effect immediately. And then there is an opportunity to 
still perfect the rule, but it goes into effect right away.
    Dr. Van Drew. And I thank you for that. And the way I say 
things, we are probably doing more now, getting more done this 
year, than has happened since that was enacted years and years 
and years ago, where nothing happened. That's chaos. That's 
chaos.
    Mr. Robbins. If I could add one other point, sir.
    Dr. Van Drew. Sure.
    Mr. Robbins. This committee is the lead committee of 
jurisdiction on expanding UAS detection and mitigation 
authorities. It has been since 2018 that Congress updated the 
UAS detection and mitigation authorities.
    Dr. Van Drew. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's chaos.
    Mr. Robbins. It is far past time for those authorities to 
be updated and to give our Federal authorities, as well as 
State, local, Tribal, Territorial, the ability to train 
properly and integrate, at the very least, detection 
technologies and, in very-bad-day situations, nonkinetic 
mitigation technologies in the homeland.
    Dr. Van Drew. We are out of time, but I just want to say, 
record amounts of money are going to be coming into our 
airports and into our FAA.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentleman yields.
    I now recognize Ms. Titus for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Titus. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When you get to me, 
everything has pretty much been asked, but I appreciate that.
    I am glad there was a lot of emphasis on workforce 
development. I worked with Mr. Molinaro in the bill to get that 
put in there, funding for it and support for it. So I know how 
much it is needed, and I am glad that is moving forward across 
the whole industry.
    As we look at safety and air traffic controllers, though, 
and improving that system, I want us to be sure we don't forget 
about the contract towers, because some of those, I think, are 
behind in who they are contracting with or how few they have. 
And I want to put that on our list to consider, too.
    I thank Mr. Van Drew for asking about the drones. Another 
part of that, in terms of bringing us up to date, was a rule I 
got in the FAA that calls for us to look at beyond line of 
sight. That deadline, too, was missed. That was last September. 
But I am hoping that we will see it come this summer.
    Can somebody--Mr. Robbins, can you address where we are 
with that and talk about why line of sight is so important? We 
see it in Nevada in rescue operations being needed or fixing 
power lines out in the desert where trucks can't go. So could 
you address where we are with that?
    Mr. Robbins. Yes, absolutely, ma'am. Thank you so much. And 
thank you for your leadership of the UAS Caucus here in the 
House of Representatives.
    So, along with the section 2209 rule that I just discussed 
with Congressman Van Drew, the beyond visual line of sight rule 
is now at the White House for review as part of the OIRA and 
interagency process.
    So we are hopeful to see the draft rule published soon. As 
you noted, that draft rule is now 261 days overdue from the 
statutory deadline set in the FAA reauthorization, and that 
puts the final rule deadline at jeopardy as well.
    So, in the meantime, it is creating a situation where 
public safety officials, agricultural operators, drone 
delivery, medical, others, have to go through a very time-
intensive, labor-intensive, and very expensive process on a 
case-by-case waiver of rule.
    Now, the FAA has done a good job of speeding up the waiver 
approval process, particularly for things they have seen before 
and can improve much quicker. So we give the FAA credit for 
that. But this is not a scalable model. Industry needs a rule 
to adhere to that they can then go out and operate to. And we 
stand ready to work with the FAA to implement this as quickly 
as possible.
    Ms. Titus. Thank you. I hope to see that because there are 
so many good uses, not just the military ones Mr. Van Drew 
talked about.
    Mr. Robbins. Right. Thank you, ma'am.
    Ms. Titus. My other question I will go back to, privatizing 
air traffic controllers. Mr. Bolen, you mentioned it, but I 
wanted to ask Ms. Nelson how her folks feel about privatizing 
and why and why not.
    Ms. Nelson. Absolutely not, we shouldn't have for-profit in 
a safety system, no.
    Ms. Titus. Just that simple?
    Ms. Nelson. It is that simple. We are fully opposed to it, 
but so is the entire industry. There was a letter earlier this 
year signed by everyone in the industry. We are all on the same 
page. There is a roadmap in the 2024 FAA reauthorization bill 
for us to move forward without privatization. I think everyone 
is on the same page. We don't need any distractions from 
getting this done.
    And I would just add that the breakdown of the air traffic 
control system is not just an economic issue and just a jobs 
issue and just a safety issue. What this also has is ancillary 
problems of more disruptive passengers because they are angry, 
they are stuck in the airports, they are stuck on the planes 
for longer. Flight attendants are facing that much more often, 
and flight attendants are also facing fatigue because our days 
are getting longer as these delays are going on.
    So, there are a lot of problems, but the path forward is 
not privatization. It is moving forward with the bill that you 
passed last year and the plans that Secretary Duffy has put 
forward, too.
    Ms. Titus. Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Nehls. The gentlelady yields.
    Any further questions?
    No, I don't see any.
    Seeing none, this concludes our hearing for today.
    I would like to thank each one of you. I think this is good 
stuff. We need to do this more often, right?
    This committee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 1:08 p.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]


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  Statement of Hon. Sam Graves, a Representative in Congress from the 
   State of Missouri, and Chairman, Committee on Transportation and 
                             Infrastructure
    Thank you, Chairman Nehls, and thank you to our witnesses for being 
here today.
    Last month, the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee held a 
hearing to mark the one-year anniversary of the FAA Reauthorization Act 
of 2024 being signed into law.
    During the hearing, we heard from the FAA on the progress they've 
made in implementing the largest and most comprehensive FAA 
Reauthorization in history.
    As a professional pilot and active user of the aviation system, 
this legislation was particularly important to me.
    I am very proud of the bipartisan work this Committee did to pass a 
major piece of legislation that will benefit every American who uses 
the aviation system.
    And while the FAA has made progress, there is still a long road 
ahead.
    Conducting rigorous oversight of the FAA Reauthorization Act is 
imperative if we are to ensure that the FAA follows the letter of the 
law and is held accountable for meeting deadlines.
    Today, we have the opportunity to hear from stakeholders in the 
aviation community on provisions that are essential to the success of 
their sectors and listen to their perspectives on implementation of the 
law so far.
    I am grateful for their insight and remain hopeful that, together, 
we can ensure this consequential law gets implemented on time and as 
Congress intended.
    The proper implementation of the law is critical, as we work in 
concert with the Trump Administration to modernize the air traffic 
control system and provide the necessary boost in staffing at our ATC 
facilities.
    Thank you, Chairman Nehls. I yield back.

                                 
  Statement of Cade Clark, Chief Government Affairs Officer, Vertical 
 Aviation International, Submitted for the Record by Hon. Troy E. Nehls
    Chairman Nehls and Ranking Member Cohen, thank you for the 
opportunity to provide the vertical aviation industry's perspective on 
the implementation of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024.
    VAI is the trade association for the civil vertical aviation 
industry, representing more than 1,000 aviation businesses and 15,000 
aviation professionals in 75 nations. VAI is dedicated to fueling the 
growth of the vertical aviation industry through connection, education, 
advocacy, and safety so that communities around the world are 
strengthened by the power of vertical flight. VAI is unique among 
aviation associations in that our members reflect all sectors of the 
vertical aviation industry, including operators of unmanned aircraft 
systems (UAS), next generation vertical-takeoff-and-landing (VTOL) 
aircraft (often called AAM aircraft), and helicopters, as well as the 
full range of companies that support and supply the industry, including 
manufacturers and education and training, maintenance, and other 
service providers.
    First, I want to express our appreciation to this Subcommittee for 
your continued recognition of the critical role vertical flight plays 
in our national transportation and emergency response systems. The 2024 
FAA Reauthorization Act contains meaningful reforms that support the 
operational needs of today's rotorcraft and powered-lift aircraft while 
laying the groundwork for safe, scalable integration of next-generation 
vertical flight technologies. The Act gives us a solid roadmap--we now 
need to ensure it gets implemented on time and in full.
    Proper execution of statutory provisions is essential to realizing 
the full potential of the 2024 FAA Reauthorization Act. Section 627, in 
particular, is a pivotal mandate to enhance the safety, predictability, 
and functionality of low-altitude IFR operations for rotorcraft and 
powered-lift aircraft. We urge the FAA to act with urgency and 
clarity--and we ask that Congress maintain rigorous oversight to ensure 
the agency follows both the letter and the intent of the law.
    Additionally, we encourage the FAA to engage closely with subject 
matter experts, like VAI, as it carries out the implementation of FAA 
Reauthorization. Leveraging the expertise and on-the-ground experience 
of industry partners will be key in ensuring successful and timely 
outcomes.
    In this testimony, I will address the importance of Section 627 and 
the broader challenges and opportunities facing the vertical aviation 
industry today.
                       Section 627 Implementation
    Section 627 of the FAA Reauthorization Act directs the FAA to 
initiate a rulemaking process within three years to establish or update 
low-altitude IFR routes and procedures for rotorcraft and powered-lift 
aircraft using performance-based navigation. This mandate arrives at a 
critical juncture. The recent tragic midair collision over Washington, 
D.C. is a solemn reminder of the criticality of ensuring safety in the 
national airspace at all flight levels, including low level flight. The 
FAA must act decisively to ensure its ongoing efforts to improve low-
altitude safety are meaningfully integrated with the implementation of 
Section 627.
    To fulfill the intent of Section 627, the FAA must initiate 
internal planning and pre-rulemaking activities without delay and 
clearly communicate its timeline for stakeholder engagement and formal 
rulemaking. We urge the agency to prioritize the most congested and 
operationally complex airspace for early implementation efforts.
    As part of this mandate, the FAA must modernize the Helicopter 
Route Chart Program by revising outdated routes and improving 
publication practices to reflect performance-based navigation 
capabilities.
    This work must also be fully integrated with the Department of 
Transportation's broader air traffic control modernization initiatives, 
particularly those focused on enabling digital separation and 
optimizing low-altitude corridors. VAI backs the Administration's Air 
Traffic Control Modernization Plan and is a member of the Modern Skies 
Coalition which strongly supports the Plan. While the Plan 
appropriately focuses on investment in people, equipment, and 
facilities, low-altitude flights must be incorporated in the operations 
considered for modernization initiatives.
    Finally, the FAA must assess whether it has the technical 
expertise, budgetary support, and staffing levels necessary to carry 
out Section 627 on schedule. If gaps exist, the agency should identify 
and communicate the specific resources required to accelerate 
progress--especially in high-density, mixed-use airspace environments.
                Essential Service to the American Public
    Vertical lift aircraft play an irreplaceable role in serving the 
American public across a wide range of missions. Critical missions 
include search and rescue, medical evacuations, firefighting, law 
enforcement, post-disaster access and evacuations, critical 
infrastructure inspection and repair, homeland security, news and 
traffic monitoring, construction and heavy lifting, and forest 
management.
    Americans saw first-hand the criticality of helicopter response 
during last year's Hurricane Helene which devastated parts of North 
Carolina--many areas were completely inaccessible by road. Over 506 
helicopters were deployed by the National Guard and approximately 1007 
helicopters were contributed by private volunteers and organizations. 
These helicopters were critical in conducting search and rescue 
missions, delivering medical supplies, and reaching areas that were 
otherwise completely decimated.
    A similar call to service was seen with the catastrophic Palisades 
and Eaton fires in the Los Angeles, California area last year. At the 
peak of operations, 60 helicopters were deployed to fight these fires--
all vital in mitigating the impact of these fires and saving countless 
lives, homes, and businesses.
    In 2024 alone, the U.S. government contracted 986 helicopters for 
wildfire response, including both large-capacity aircraft (Type 1) 
capable of delivering substantial water or retardant payloads and large 
crew transport and medium/light helicopters (Type 2) utilized for small 
crew transport, reconnaissance and tactical water drops.
    Vertical aviation continues to grow in aircraft and services 
provided. Clearly defined, up-to-date, and technologically advanced 
routing infrastructure provides increased efficiency and safety to 
vertical lift allowing the industry to better respond to the next 
wildfire, hurricane, or large-scale emergency.
                         Continual Advancement
    Emerging technology, notably Vertical Takeoff and Landing (VTOL), 
Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS), and aircraft with advanced propulsion 
systems, autonomous capabilities, or fly-by-wire systems, are 
positioned to greatly influence the global aviation industry over the 
next decade. Conservative projections value this segment at over $20.8 
billion by 2035, signaling a significant expansion of the vertical 
flight ecosystem.
    The performance, capabilities, and flight profiles of AAM can take 
advantage of and benefit from a low-altitude airspace structure that is 
flexible, data-driven, and aligned with performance-based navigation 
standards. Section 627 mandates the FAA to establish or update IFR 
routes and procedures for rotorcraft and powered-lift aircraft--
including many AAM and eVTOL platforms--ensuring that tomorrow's 
aircraft have a safe, predictable, and scalable path to integration in 
the National Airspace System.
    Section 627 is not just about today's helicopters--it is about 
building an airspace environment capable of supporting the next 
generation of vertical flight. If implemented with urgency and 
precision, it will help unlock the full potential of emerging aircraft, 
secure U.S. leadership in advanced air mobility, and support a vibrant, 
high-tech manufacturing sector that benefits communities nationwide.
                               Conclusion
    The vertical lift industry is and will remain a cornerstone of 
America's economy, public safety infrastructure, and emergency response 
capability. From saving lives during natural disasters to supporting 
daily operations in law enforcement, infrastructure, and logistics, the 
industry enhances the quality of life across the country. As the sector 
evolves with new technologies and growing mission demands, the systems 
that support it--especially low-altitude airspace infrastructure--must 
evolve as well.
    Section 627 of the FAA Reauthorization Act of 2024 is a critical 
step toward that evolution. Its successful implementation will help 
ensure that rotorcraft and powered-lift aircraft can operate safely, 
predictably, and efficiently in increasingly congested and complex 
environments. It also lays the foundation for integrating advanced 
technologies and aircraft into a more modern, performance-based 
airspace system.
    VAI appreciates the opportunity to provide input as part of this 
hearing and stands ready to be a constructive partner in ensuring the 
success of Section 627. We welcome continued collaboration with 
Congress, the FAA, and industry stakeholders to implement this Act in a 
way that supports national security, public safety, and the future of 
vertical flight in the United States.


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 Questions to Edward M. Bolen, President and Chief Executive Officer, 
    National Business Aviation Association, from Hon. Julia Brownley

    Question 1. Can you discuss how important it is for the FAA to work 
with industry to quickly identify, review, and approve a safe lead-free 
aviation gasoline that can be adopted fleetwide across the country?
    Answer. The transition to unleaded aviation gasoline is a matter of 
both environmental responsibility and operational urgency. NBAA 
strongly supports the FAA's continued collaboration with industry 
through initiatives like the Eliminate Aviation Gasoline Lead Emissions 
(EAGLE) program. Achieving a universally adoptable, safe unleaded avgas 
is critical. A coordinated and expedited approach to testing, approval, 
and deployment is essential to avoid disruptions in general aviation 
operations and to ensure that operators, especially those at smaller or 
rural airports, can continue to access the fuel they need to operate 
safely and reliably.

    Question 1.a. From a safety perspective, how critical is it that 
any unleaded fuel work seamlessly across the entire general aviation 
fleet without requiring different fuel handling procedures or 
performance considerations for different aircraft types?
    Answer. From a safety standpoint, fleetwide compatibility is 
paramount. General aviation relies on a diverse mix of aircraft, often 
operating in remote environments and supported by small businesses and 
airports and fixed-base operators with limited infrastructure. A 
universal drop-in fuel would rely on the existing infrastructure, 
without requiring additional investment that most general aviation 
airports cannot afford and ensures consistency in engine performance, 
avoids misfueling risks, and eliminates the need for specialized 
training, signage, or fueling procedures that could introduce human 
error. Anything short of a seamless transition poses real safety 
concerns for pilots, maintenance technicians, and fueling personnel.
    Additionally, until a universal drop-in unleaded fuel has been 
identified, it is critical that the existing 100LL Aviation Gasoline 
supply and availability remain in place at all airports. Aircraft 
utilizing 100LL gasoline today reflect a broad diversity of disaster 
relief, aero medical, small community air transport, recreational, and 
other missions.

    Question 1.b. Many business aviation operators manage diverse 
fleets of aircraft. What operational and financial burdens would be 
created if these operators had to manage multiple fuel types, different 
performance characteristics, and varying availability across their 
route networks?
    Answer. The introduction of multiple fuel types would impose 
significant logistical and financial burdens on business aviation 
operators. Managing a fleet with different fueling requirements would 
complicate dispatch planning, increase the risk of fuel mismatches, and 
potentially ground aircraft if the correct fuel type is unavailable at 
a destination. Operators would incur added costs for training 
personnel, retrofitting equipment, updating fuel storage 
infrastructure, and developing new operational protocols--all of which 
divert resources from safety and efficiency initiatives. Lack of 
appropriate fuel at the operator's home base airport would require 
additional flights to obtain fuel, adding additional risk. A patchwork 
of fuel availability across the country would further compound these 
challenges, especially for operators who depend on operational 
flexibility to meet time-sensitive missions.
    NBAA urges the FAA to continue prioritizing a fleetwide solution 
that ensures safety, reliability, and accessibility for all general 
aviation stakeholders.

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