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                AMERICA ON THE GLOBAL STAGE: EXAMINING 
                 EFFORTS TO SECURE AND IMPROVE THE U.S. 
                 TRAVEL SYSTEM AND PREPARE FOR SIGNIFI-
                 CANT INTERNATIONAL EVENTS

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                            SUBCOMMITTEE ON
                  TRANSPORTATION AND MARITIME SECURITY

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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY
                        HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                     COMMITTEE ON HOMELAND SECURITY

                 Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee, Chairman
Michael T. McCaul, Texas, Vice       Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi, 
    Chair                                Ranking Member
Clay Higgins, Louisiana              Eric Swalwell, California
Michael Guest, Mississippi           J. Luis Correa, California
Carlos A. Gimenez, Florida           Shri Thanedar, Michigan
August Pfluger, Texas                Seth Magaziner, Rhode Island
Andrew R. Garbarino, New York        Daniel S. Goldman, New York
Marjorie Taylor Greene, Georgia      Delia C. Ramirez, Illinois
Tony Gonzales, Texas                 Timothy M. Kennedy, New York
Morgan Luttrell, Texas               LaMonica McIver, New Jersey
Dale W. Strong, Alabama              Julie Johnson, Texas, Vice Ranking 
Josh Brecheen, Oklahoma                  Member
Elijah Crane, Arizona                Pablo Jose Hernandez, Puerto Rico
Andrew Ogles, Tennessee              Nellie Pou, New Jersey
Sheri Biggs, South Carolina          Troy A. Carter, Louisiana
Gabe Evans, Colorado                 Robert Garcia, California
Ryan Mackenzie, Pennsylvania         Vacancy
Brad Knott, North Carolina
                    Eric Heighberger, Staff Director
                  Hope Goins, Minority Staff Director
                       Sean Corcoran, Chief Clerk
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          SUBCOMMITTEE ON TRANSPORTATION AND MARITIME SECURITY

                  Carlos A. Gimenez, Florida, Chairman
Andrew R. Garbarino, New York        LaMonica McIver, New Jersey, 
Elijah Crane, Arizona                    Ranking Member
Sheri Biggs, South Carolina          Timothy M. Kennedy, New York
Mark E. Green, MD, Tennessee (ex     Troy A. Carter, Louisiana
    officio)                         Bennie G. Thompson, Mississippi 
                                         (ex officio)
             Roland Hernandez, Subcommittee Staff Director
           Alex Marston, Minority Subcommittee Staff Director
                           
                           
                           C O N T E N T S

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                               Statements

The Honorable Carlos A. Gimenez, a Representative in Congress 
  From the State of Florida, and Chairman, Subcommittee on 
  Transportation and Maritime Security:
  Oral Statement.................................................     1
  Prepared Statement.............................................     3
The Honorable LaMonica McIver, a Representative in Congress From 
  the State of New Jersey, and Ranking Member, Subcommittee on 
  Transportation and Maritime Security:
  Oral Statement.................................................     4
  Prepared Statement.............................................     5
The Honorable Bennie G. Thompson, a Representative in Congress 
  From the State of Mississippi, and Ranking Member, Committee on 
  Homeland Security:
  Oral Statement.................................................     7
  Prepared Statement.............................................     8

                               Witnesses

Mr. Geoff Freeman, President and Chief Executive Officer, U.S. 
  Travel Association:
  Oral Statement.................................................    12
  Prepared Statement.............................................    13
Mr. Jon Gruen, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Fortem 
  Technologies:
  Oral Statement.................................................    17
  Prepared Statement.............................................    19
Mr. Everett B. Kelley, Ph.D., National President, American 
  Federation of Government Employees (AFGE):
  Oral Statement.................................................    20
  Prepared Statement.............................................    22

                             For the Record

The Honorable Carlos A. Gimenez, a Representative in Congress 
  From the State of Florida, and Chairman, Subcommittee on 
  Transportation and Maritime Security:
  Letter From Airlines for America (A4A).........................    10
The Honorable Elijah Crane, a Representative in Congress From the 
  State of Arizona:
  National Transportation Statistics.............................    38
  Article, Defense Daily, October 8, 2015........................    39
  Article, ABC News, November 9, 2017............................    40
  Traffic Regulations for the U.S. Capitol Grounds...............    41
  Proposed Bill..................................................    42

                                Appendix

Supplemental Testimony of Geoff Freeman, President and Chief 
  Executive Officer, U.S. Travel Association.....................    55

 
 AMERICA ON THE GLOBAL STAGE: EXAMINING EFFORTS TO SECURE AND IMPROVE 
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                         Tuesday, April 8, 2025

             U.S. House of Representatives,
                    Committee on Homeland Security,
                        Subcommittee on Transportation and 
                                         Maritime Security,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:10 a.m., in 
room 310, Cannon House Office Building, Hon. Carlos A. Gimenez 
(Chairman of the subcommittee) presiding.
    Present: Representatives Gimenez, Crane, Biggs of South 
Carolina, McIver, Kennedy of New York, and Thompson of 
Mississippi (ex officio).
    Mr. Gimenez. The Homeland Security Subcommittee on 
Transportation and Maritime Security will come to order.
    Without objection, the Chair may declare the subcommittee 
in recess at any point.
    Before we begin today's hearings, I want to take a moment 
to acknowledge the absence of a valued Member of our 
subcommittee. We are mourning the loss of our friend and 
colleague, Congressman Turner. Sylvester's decades of dedicated 
public service to the people of Houston and his contributions 
to this Nation and Congress will be remembered as part of his 
lasting legacy. My thoughts and prayers are with his family, 
especially his daughter and grandson, as they grieve his 
passing and honor his life of service.
    I also want to welcome the gentleman from Louisiana, Mr. 
Carter, to the subcommittee.
    Today's hearing will assess the current state of U.S. 
travel security and infrastructure, evaluating the readiness of 
airports, ports, and border entry points to manage large 
influxes of international travelers while ensuring the security 
measures, technological advancements, and operational processes 
meet future needs.
    I now recognize myself for an opening statement. Good 
morning, I want to thank everyone for being here today, 
especially our witnesses, as we take a closer look at how the 
United States is preparing to welcome the world over the next 
few years for significant international events.
    Beginning this summer, the United States will step onto 
global stage by housing the FIFA Club World Cup. This 
tournament will feature a league of professional clubs from 
around the world, such as Real Madrid, Manchester City, Inter 
Miami FC, my hometown team. It will take place at select venues 
throughout the United States. This event will provide an early 
opportunity to stress test our travel systems, infrastructure, 
and security coordination ahead of even larger events on the 
horizon.
    In 2026, our country will host a FIFA World Cup with 
matches played by national teams in cities across the Nation. I 
am thrilled that this includes my home city of Miami. At the 
same time, we will celebrate America's 250th anniversary in 
July 2026, followed by the summer Olympics and Paralympics in 
Los Angeles in 2028.
    When I was mayor of Miami-Dade County, I witnessed first-
hand just how much planning and hard work goes into ensuring 
these major events run smoothly. As a Member of Congress, I 
intend to do all I can to make sure that these international 
events are safe for millions of Americans and those traveling 
here or planning or attending.
    These events are more than just celebrations or 
competitions; they are major opportunities to show the world 
what America stands for and what we can achieve. If we get this 
right, the payoff could be enormous. According to the U.S. 
Travel Association, we could generate nearly $95 billion in 
economic activity and welcome over 40 million international 
visitors. That will only happen if we plan ahead, invest 
wisely, and make sure that the travel experience in the United 
States is smooth, modern, and secure.
    Right now, we have work to do. A recent report from the 
United States Travel Association makes it clear that, while the 
United States remains one of the top destinations for 
international travels, we now rank last among the top travel 
destinations when it comes to national planning and leadership.
    Long waits for visas, outdated airport technology, and 
staffing shortages at our ports of entry are slowing us down. 
These problems are not just frustrating; they could cost us 
jobs, investment, and global influence. This is why I support 
President Trump's recent Executive Order creating a White House 
task force focused on the 2026 World Cup. This kind of 
coordination is exactly what we need. It brings people to the 
table and sends a strong message that the United States is 
serious about being ready.
    I am currently working on a bill that will take this a step 
further by creating a Federal task force to focus on all major 
international events occurring in the United States over the 
next 4 years. That includes the World Cup, America's 250th, and 
the 2028 Olympics. We need to make sure every agency involved 
is working together and that our policies and resources are 
aligned.
    We also need to think about security. Big crowds and high-
profile venues make these big events targets. That includes 
threats from drones, which are becoming more common around 
stadiums and public gatherings. We need to make sure agencies 
like DHS, TSA, and State and local law enforcement have the 
tools and coordination they need to stop these threats in the 
planning stage long before they can cause harm. We should take 
this opportunity to make long-needed reforms to our travel 
system. We need to make the system more thorough and effective 
while still being welcoming to legitimate travelers. That means 
better technology at airports, shorter visa wait times, and 
making sure that we have enough officers at our ports of entry. 
The world will be watching. With the right vision and 
coordination, the United States can set the global standard, 
not just for security but for innovation, hospitality, and 
safety.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses about how we 
turn that vision into the reality.
    [The statement of Chairman Gimenez follows:]
                Statement of Chairman Carlos A. Gimenez
                             April 8, 2025
    Good morning. I want to thank everyone for being here today, 
especially our witnesses, as we take a closer look at how the United 
States is preparing to welcome the world over the next few years for 
significant international events.
    Beginning this summer, the United States will step onto the global 
stage by hosting the FIFA Club World Cup. This tournament will feature 
elite professional clubs from around the world, such as Real Madrid, 
Manchester City, and Inter Miami FC, and will take place at select 
venues throughout the United States. This event will provide an early 
opportunity to stress-test our travel systems, infrastructure, and 
security coordination ahead of even larger events on the horizon.
    In 2026, our country will host the FIFA World Cup with matches 
played by national teams in cities across the Nation, and I am thrilled 
that this includes my home city of Miami. At the same time, we will 
celebrate America's 250th anniversary in July 2026, followed by the 
Summer Olympics and Paralympics in Los Angeles in 2028. When I was 
mayor of Miami-Dade County I witnessed first-hand just how much 
planning and hard work goes into ensuring these major events run 
smoothly. As a Member of Congress, I intend to do all I can to make 
sure these international events are safe for the millions of Americans 
and those traveling here who are planning on attending.
    These events are more than just celebrations or competitions. They 
are major opportunities to show the world what America stands for and 
what we can achieve.
    If we get this right, the payoff could be enormous. According to 
the U.S. Travel Association, we could generate nearly $95 billion in 
economic activity and welcome over 40 million international visitors. 
But that will only happen if we plan ahead, invest wisely, and make 
sure the travel experience in the United States is smooth, modern, and 
secure.
    Right now, we have work to do. A recent report from the U.S. Travel 
Association made it clear that while the United States remains one of 
the top destinations for international travelers; we now rank last 
among the top travel destinations when it comes to national planning 
and leadership. Long waits for visas, outdated airport technology, and 
staffing shortages at our ports of entry are slowing us down. These 
problems are not just frustrating, they could cost us jobs, investment, 
and global influence.
    That is why I support President Trump's recent Executive Order 
creating a White House Task Force focused on the 2026 World Cup. This 
kind of coordination is exactly what we need. It brings the right 
people to the table and sends a strong message that the United States 
is serious about being ready.
    I'm currently working on a bill that would take this a step further 
by creating a Federal task force to focus on all major international 
events occurring in the United States over the next 4 years. That 
includes the World Cup, America's 250th, and the 2028 Olympics. We need 
to make sure every agency involved is working together and that our 
policies and resources are aligned.
    We also need to think about security. Big crowds and high-profile 
venues make these events a target. That includes threats from drones, 
which are becoming more common around stadiums and public gatherings. 
We need to make sure agencies like DHS, TSA, and State and local law 
enforcement have the tools and coordination they need to stop these 
threats in the planning stage, long before they can cause harm.
    We should take this opportunity to make long-needed reforms to our 
travel system. We need to make the system more thorough and effective, 
while still being welcoming to legitimate travelers. That means better 
technology at airports, shorter visa wait times and making sure we have 
enough officers at our ports of entry.
    The world will be watching. And with the right vision and 
coordination, the United States can set the global standard--not just 
for security, but for innovation, hospitality, and safety. I look 
forward to hearing from our witnesses about how we turn that vision 
into reality.

    Mr. Gimenez. Now I recognize the Ranking Member, the 
gentlewoman from New Jersey, Mrs. McIver, for her opening 
statements.
    Mrs. McIver. Good morning. Thank you to our witnesses for 
joining us today.
    Thank you to Chairman Gimenez for holding today's hearing.
    I too want to join in on just expressing our condolences 
and sympathy to Representative Turner's family--who passed 
away, who was a part of this committee--as we continue to pray 
and keep his family and his friends and his close colleagues in 
our thoughts. So definitely join us in that and sending well 
wishes to his family.
    The travel and tourism industry is a vital part of the U.S. 
economy. In November 2021, President Biden signed the 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act into law, providing a 
$1.2 trillion investment in American transportation and 
infrastructure. In December 2022, President Biden signed an 
omnibus spending package into law funding pay raises and an 
expanded collective bargaining framework for TSA employees. 
These historic investments have helped spur continued growth in 
U.S. travel and tourism and helped secure our transportation 
networks.
    In 2024, travel in the United States produced an economic 
output of $2.8 trillion and supported more than 15 million 
American jobs, and record numbers of passengers traveled 
through TSA security checkpoints. To continue to grow the U.S. 
travel system and prepare for upcoming international events, 
any sane administration would continue to invest in our 
infrastructure, update our security technology, and support our 
Federal work force.
    Unfortunately, President Trump and Republicans in Congress 
are doing the exact opposite. Take for example making 
investments in cutting-edge security technology to fund new CT 
scanners and other equipment at TSA checkpoints at the 
necessary scale and pace. Congress must stop using passenger 
security fee collections as a slush fund and return that money 
to TSA. But, instead, Republicans are considering increasing 
passenger security fees and using that money to help pay for 
tax cuts for billionaires, according to a document showing 
their reconciliation plans.
    Republicans want to charge airline passengers more and then 
put the money in billionaire pockets. The passenger security 
fee was created to help fund TSA and prevent another 9/11, but 
Republicans care more about giving tax cuts to billionaires. 
That's despicable.
    Let's turn to work force issues. Transportation security 
officers are the backbone of our transportation security system 
as they screen millions of passengers and pieces of luggage 
every day to keep our skies safe. Yet, over the past month, 
President Trump and Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem 
have taken the first steps in dismantling the professional 
aviation security work force we have worked so hard to build 
over the past 2 decades.
    On March 7, Secretary Noem ended TSA's 7-year collective 
bargaining agreement and dismantled union rights in a political 
and illegal move to advance President Trump's union-busting 
agenda. I am glad this move is being challenged in the courts. 
But, in the mean time, it undermines the TSO work force just as 
it had finally stabilized after decades of high attrition.
    Worse yet, the termination of TSA's collective bargain 
agreement may pave the way for Project 2025's goal of 
privatizing the agency, an effort Republicans in Congress are 
already trying to advance. Privatizing more than 400 airports 
and over 50,000 screening officers would throw the entire 
aviation security system into chaos and return us to the pre-9/
11 model that failed to prevent the largest terrorist attack in 
U.S. history.
    Democrats will fight tooth and nail to prevent Republicans 
from sacrificing our national security at the altar of 
corporate greed. Unfortunately, the problems the Trump 
administration is creating for travel and tourism industry go 
well beyond TSA. In 2024, the International Trade 
Administration reported a 9 percent increase of international 
visitors to the United States. Under the Biden administration, 
U.S. tourism was booming and open for business. However, in 
just 2 months since President Trump took office, he has managed 
to throw that all away by detaining tourists, attacking allies, 
and tanking the economy.
    The list of countries that have changed their advisory to 
warn travelers to the United States of potential risk is 
growing longer by the day. That list now includes the United 
Kingdom, Germany, Norway, Ireland, the Netherlands, Denmark, 
Finland, Belgium, and Canada.
    Canadians who visit the United States more than anyone are 
now canceling their trips, as flight bookings from Canada have 
dropped by 70 percent. Since Trump took office, several 
travelers trying to enter the United States have been turned 
away or detained for days or weeks with little to no 
explanation.
    A French scientist scheduled to attend a conference in 
Houston was turned away reportedly because his personal device 
contained opinions criticizing Trump's research's policies. A 
Canadian was put in a jumpsuit and chains and detained for over 
2 weeks as she legally went through the process to obtain a 
work visa. A German tourist spent more than 6 weeks in a 
detention center, including 8 days in solitary confinement, 
because she was traveling with tattooing equipment.
    Through these cases and others, Donald Trump is sending the 
message that visitors to the United States may be arrested 
without explanation. Trump is sending a message that the United 
States is closed for business. Trump's policies put at risk 
trillions of dollars in tourism spending and millions of 
American jobs. Let me be clear, if you aren't, even from 
watching the news today: Donald Trump is tanking the economy.
    I look forward to discussing with our witnesses how the 
dire situation will impact our national security and the 
success of upcoming high-profile events like the World Cup and 
the Olympics.
    Thank you. With that, I yield back.
    [The statement of Ranking Member McIver follows:]
              Statement of Ranking Member LaMonica McIver
                             April 8, 2025
    The travel and tourism industry is a vital part of the U.S. 
economy.
    In November 2021, President Biden signed the Infrastructure 
Investment and Jobs Act into law, providing a $1.2 trillion investment 
in American transportation and infrastructure. In December 2022, 
President Biden signed an omnibus spending package into law, funding 
pay raises and an expanded collective bargaining framework for TSA 
employees.
    These historic investments have helped spur continued growth in 
U.S. travel and tourism and helped secure our transportation networks. 
In 2024, travel in the United States produced an economic output of 
$2.8 trillion and supported more than 15 million American jobs, and 
record numbers of passengers traveled through TSA security checkpoints.
    To continue to grow the U.S. travel system and prepare for upcoming 
international events, any sane administration would continue to invest 
in our infrastructure, update our security technology, and support our 
Federal workforce. Unfortunately, President Trump and Republicans in 
Congress are doing the exact opposite. Take, for example, making 
investments in cutting-edge security technology.
    To fund new CT scanners and other equipment at TSA checkpoints at 
the necessary scale and pace, Congress must stop using Passenger 
Security Fee collections as a slush fund and return that money to TSA. 
But instead, House Republicans are considering increasing Passenger 
Security Fees and using that money to help pay for tax cuts for 
billionaires, according to a document showing their reconciliation 
plans. Republicans want to charge airline passengers more and then put 
that money in billionaires' pockets.
    The Passenger Security Fee was created to help fund TSA and prevent 
another 9/11--but Republicans care more about giving tax cuts to 
billionaires. That's despicable. Let's turn to workforce issues.
    Transportation Security Officers are the backbone of our 
transportation security system, as they screen millions of passengers 
and pieces of luggage every day to keep our skies safe. Yet over the 
past month, President Trump and Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi 
Noem have taken the first steps in dismantling the professional 
aviation security workforce we have worked so hard to build over the 
past 2 decades.
    On March 7, Secretary Noem ended TSA's 7-year collective bargaining 
agreement and dismantled union rights in a blatantly political and 
illegal move to advance President Trump's union-busting agenda. I am 
glad this move is being challenged in the courts, but in the mean time 
it undermines the TSO work force just as it had finally stabilized 
after decades of high attrition.
    Worse yet, the termination of TSA's collective bargaining agreement 
may pave the way for Project 2025's goal of privatizing the agency--an 
effort Republicans in Congress are already trying to advance.
    Privatizing more than 400 airports and over 50,000 screening 
officers would throw the entire aviation security system into chaos and 
return us to the pre-9/11 model that failed to prevent the largest 
terrorist attack in U.S. history. Democrats will fight tooth and nail 
to prevent Republicans from sacrificing our national security at the 
altar of corporate greed. Unfortunately, the problems the Trump 
administration is creating for the travel and tourism industry go well 
beyond the TSA.
    In 2024, the International Trade Administration reported a 9 
percent increase of international visitors to the United States. Under 
the Biden administration, U.S. tourism was booming and open for 
business. However, in just the 2 months since President Trump took 
office, he has managed to throw that all away by detaining tourists, 
attacking allies, and tanking the economy. The list of countries that 
have changed their advisories to warn travelers to the United States of 
potential risks is growing longer by the day.
    That list now includes the United Kingdom, Germany, Norway, 
Ireland, the Netherlands, Denmark, Finland, Belgium, and Canada. 
Canadians, who visit the United States more than anyone, are now 
canceling their trips, as flight bookings from Canada have dropped by 
70 percent. Since Trump took office, several travelers trying to enter 
the United States have been turned away or detained for days or weeks 
with little to no explanation.
    A French scientist scheduled to attend a conference in Houston was 
turned away reportedly because his personal device contained opinions 
criticizing Trump's research policies. A Canadian citizen was put in a 
jumpsuit and chains and detained for over 2 weeks as she legally went 
through the process to obtain a work visa. A German tourist spent more 
than 6 weeks in a detention center, including 8 days in solitary 
confinement, because she was traveling with tattooing equipment.
    Through these cases and others, Donald Trump is sending the message 
that visitors to the United States may be arrested without explanation. 
Trump is sending the message that the United States is closed for 
business. Trump's policies put at risk trillions of dollars in tourism 
spending and millions of American jobs. Let me be clear: Donald Trump 
is tanking the economy.
    I look forward to discussing with our witnesses how this dire 
situation will impact our national security and the success of upcoming 
high-profile events like the World Cup and the Olympics.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you.
    I now recognize the Ranking Member of the committee, the 
gentleman from Mississippi, Mr. Thompson.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Let me welcome our witnesses on the panel today.
    I am glad the subcommittee is examining the state of U.S. 
travel system ahead of high-profile international events. The 
outlook for the World Cup, the Olympics, and other major events 
set to be hosted in the United States over the next few years 
is dire. In just a couple of short months in office, Donald 
Trump and his Republican lackeys have done tremendous damage to 
the U.S. travel and tourism. People visiting the United States 
can no longer be confident that they will be treated fairly by 
our Government.
    Just last week, a renowned mixed martial arts fighter and 
coach trying to visit the United States for a seminar was 
detained upon entry, sent to a Federal detention facility, and 
ultimately sent back to Australia--all without little 
explanation. If this is how we treat foreign athletes and 
coaches visiting the United States, one can only imagine how 
the World Cup and Olympics will go.
    This is just one of the many instances of the Trump 
administration inflicting unnecessary trauma upon foreign 
visitors. The cruelty is the point. Donald Trump apparently 
does not want foreign visitors to visit the United States, even 
though travel represented $2.8 trillion of U.S. economic output 
in 2023.
    The impact of Trump's chaotic and undefined detention and 
deportation policies is already apparent. Canada, the United 
Kingdom, Germany, Ireland, Norway, Finland, Denmark, Belgium, 
and the Netherlands have all updated travel guidance for people 
visiting the United States to warn of potential for detention 
or discrimination. Airline bookings from Canada, which provides 
the most visitors to the United States by far, is already down 
70 percent. The impacts of this loss of international travel 
will be devastating to local economies.
    In 2023, more than $1.3 trillion in travel spending 
contributed $89 billion in tax revenue to States and 
communities across the country. More than 15 million American 
workers are either directly employed or heavily supported by 
the travel industry.
    Some of those workers are also facing more direct assaults 
from the Trump administration. Last month, Secretary of 
Homeland Security Kristi Noem issued a memo to strip TSA 
employees of their union rights and rescind their existing 
collective bargaining agreement. Transportation security 
officers screen millions of passengers every day to protect air 
travel. For many years, the TSA work force was plagued by low 
morale and high attrition.
    In 2022, President Biden signed into law an omnibus 
spending bill providing pay raises and funding and expanded 
collective bargaining framework for TSOs. Those measures have 
had a dramatic impact on TSA's ability to carry out its 
security mission, as attrition has dropped in half.
    Undoing this progress is dumb, cruel, and illegal. The 
Secretary cannot unilaterally rescind a binding legal contract. 
I hope the courts will put a stop to this nakedly political 
madness. In the mean time, I am proud to have reintroduced my 
bill, the Rights for the TSA Workforce Act, which would provide 
TSA workers with full collective bargaining rights and a fair 
pay under title 5 of the U.S. Code.
    Now is the time for Members of both parties to stand up 
against Donald Trump and push back against his cruel and 
foolish policies. Donald Trump is putting America last. The 
U.S. travel and tourism industry will be among the Trump 
administration's first casualties if we do not change course 
quickly.
    Thank you again to our witnesses for joining us today to 
discuss this critical challenge.
    I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    [The statement of Ranking Member Thompson follows:]
             Statement of Ranking Member Bennie G. Thompson
                             April 8, 2025
    The outlook for the World Cup, the Olympics, and other major events 
set to be hosted in the United States over the next few years is dire.
    In just a couple short months in office, Donald Trump and his 
Republican lackeys have done tremendous damage to U.S. travel and 
tourism. People visiting the United States can no longer be confident 
they will be treated fairly by our Government.
    Just last week, a renowned mixed martial arts fighter and coach 
trying to visit the United States for a seminar was detained upon 
entry, sent to a Federal detention facility, and ultimately sent back 
to Australia--all with little explanation. If this is how we treat 
foreign athletes and coaches visiting the United States, one can only 
imagine how the World Cup and Olympics will go.
    This is just one of many instances of the Trump administration 
inflicting unnecessary trauma upon foreign visitors. The cruelty is the 
point.
    Donald Trump apparently does not want foreign travelers to visit 
the United States, even though travel represented $2.8 trillion of U.S. 
economic output in 2023. The impact of Trump's chaotic and undefined 
detention and deportation policies is already apparent.
    Canada, the United Kingdom, Germany, Ireland, Norway, Finland, 
Denmark, Belgium, and the Netherlands have all updated travel guidance 
for people visiting the United States to warn of the potential for 
detention or discrimination. Airline bookings from Canada--which 
provides the most visitors to the United States by far--are already 
down 70 percent.
    The impacts of this loss of international travelers will be 
devastating to local economies. In 2023, more than $1.3 trillion in 
travel spending contributed $89 billion in tax revenues in States and 
communities across the country. More than 15 million American workers 
are either directly employed or heavily supported by the travel 
industry. Some of those workers are also facing more direct assaults 
from the Trump administration.
    Last month, Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem issued a 
memo to strip TSA employees of their union rights and rescind their 
existing collective bargaining agreement. Transportation Security 
Officers screen millions of passengers every day to protect air travel. 
For many years, the TSA workforce was plagued by low morale and high 
attrition.
    In 2022, President Biden signed into law an omnibus spending bill 
providing pay raises and funding an expanded collective bargaining 
framework for TSOs. Those measures have had a dramatic impact on TSA's 
ability to carry out its security mission, as attrition has dropped in 
half. Undoing this progress is dumb, cruel, and illegal.
    The Secretary cannot unilaterally rescind a binding legal contract. 
I hope the courts will put a stop to this nakedly political madness. In 
the mean time, I am proud to have reintroduced by bill, the Rights for 
the TSA Workforce Act, which would provide TSA workers with full 
collective bargaining rights and fair pay under title 5 of the U.S. 
Code.
    Now is the time for Members of both parties to stand up to Donald 
Trump and push back against his cruel and foolish policies. Donald 
Trump is putting America last. The U.S. travel and tourism industry 
will be among the Trump administration's first casualties if we do not 
change course quickly.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the Ranking Member.
    Other Members of the committee are reminded that opening 
statements may be submitted for the record.
    I am pleased to have a distinguished panel of witnesses 
before us today on this critical topic. I ask that our 
witnesses please rise and raise your right hands.
    [Witnesses sworn.]
    Mr. Gimenez. Let the record reflect that the witnesses have 
answered in the affirmative.
    Thank you and please be seated.
    I would now like to formally introduce our witnesses. Mr. 
Geoff Freeman is the president and CEO of the U.S. Travel 
Association, the leading advocate for $1.1 trillion U.S. travel 
and hospitality industry. Mr. Freeman is a seasoned association 
CEO with a proven track record of building successful 
organizations that unite members' interest, grow members' 
values, increase revenue and unlock growth opportunities. Prior 
to joining U.S. travel, Freeman was president and CEO of the 
Consumer Brands Association, the trade association for 
America's $2.1 trillion food, beverage, and consumer products 
industry.
    Mr. Jon Gruen is the CEO and executive chairman of Foreign 
Technologies, a tech company that provides artificial-
intelligence-enabled air space awareness and counter-drone 
solutions to defense, law enforcement, and commercial 
customers. Previously, Mr. Gruen was a corporate business 
development and strategy lead for Lockheed Martin. Prior to 
joining Lockheed Martin, Mr. Gruen was a Navy SEAL officer, 
where he served in increasing leadership positions in Operation 
Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom. He is currently a 
Naval Reserve captain and has commanded unmanned air systems 
and technology innovation units. Jon received his bachelor of 
science degree from the United States Naval Academy and 
received his master of business administration from the Haas 
School of Business, University of California Berkeley.
    Dr. Everett Kelley is the national president of the 
American Federation of Government Employees, which is the 
largest union representing Federal and D.C. government 
employees. He began his first term of service as national 
president in February 2020, was elected to another term during 
the 42nd national convention in June 2022, and was reelected 
during the 43rd national convention in August 2024. Dr. Kelley 
has been a member of AFGE since 1981. He worked at Anniston 
Army Depot and retired from there after 30 years of service.
    I thank each of our distinguished witnesses for being here 
today. Also, I would like to offer the following letter from 
the Airlines for America, for the record.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    [The information follows:]
                 Letter From Airlines for America (A4A)
                                     April 4, 2025.
The Honorable Carlos A. Gimenez,
Chairman, U.S. House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Transportation 
        and Maritime Security, H2-176 Ford House Office Building, 
        Washington, DC 20515.
RE: Hearing on ``America on the Global Stage: Examining Efforts to 
Secure and Improve the U.S. Travel System for Significant International 
Events.''

    Dear Chairman Gimenez: As the United States prepares for upcoming 
international events over the next decade, Airlines for America 
(A4A)\1\ welcomes the opportunity to submit comments for the record 
regarding your hearing entitled ``America on the Global Stage: 
Examining Efforts to Secure and Improve the U.S. Travel System for 
Significant International Events.''
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    \1\ A4A is the trade association for the leading U.S. airlines, 
both passenger and cargo carriers. Members of the association are 
Alaska Airlines; American Airlines; Atlas Air; Delta Air Lines; FedEx; 
Hawaiian Airlines; JetBlue Airways; Southwest Airlines; United 
Airlines; and UPS. Air Canada is an associate member.
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    With preparations already under way for the FIFA Club World Cup in 
2025, FIFA World Cup 2026, and the International Summer Olympic Games 
in 2028, A4A and our member airlines are committed to working with the 
Government to ensure transit to and from these events is safe and 
secure. Aviation plays a key role in our Nation's critical 
infrastructure and our sector's operations are dependent and reliant 
upon the Federal agencies we interact with including the Transportation 
Security Administration (TSA) and the U.S. Customs and Border 
Protection (CBP).
    As a result of these dependencies and as the subcommittee provides 
oversight of the preparation of these events, A4A offers the following 
recommendations for consideration:
 designate events appropriately to ensure interagency coordination and 
            adequate human and technology capital investment
    A4A member airlines are adept at supporting high-profile events 
designated as Special Event Assessment Rating (SEAR) events or National 
Special Security Events (NSSE) by the Department of Homeland Security 
(DHS). In these instances, the DHS applies a risk-based methodology to 
assign a rating based on the threat, vulnerability, and consequences 
for each event. These security ratings determine the level of Federal 
assistance needed to support large-scale events with supplemental 
resources such as the TSA's Federal Air Marshals (FAMS), Visible 
Intermodal Protection and Response (VIPR) teams, explosive detection 
canine teams, venue screening and field intelligence teams, and forward 
deployed Transportation Security Officers (TSOs) as a part of the 
National Deployment Force (NDF). TSA has demonstrated its ability to 
adequately staff and support similar events as seen during last year's 
Superbowl and the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, which 
occurred without any significant aviation security risks or operational 
impacts.
    Adequately staffing the DHS component agencies which support the 
aviation sector is vital to our industry. U.S. airlines operate 27,000 
flights per day around the globe, transporting an average of 2.7 
million passengers to/from more than 80 countries each day and move 
more than 61 tons of cargo daily to/from more than 220 countries. 
Domestically, in 2024 alone, U.S. airlines set records for single-day 
passenger travel, TSA had over 30 record-setting passenger screening 
days, and on Sunday, December 1, 2024, the TSA set an all-time high 
record surpassing 3 million passengers screened in a single day. 
Internationally, in 2024, U.S.travel grew 9 percent year over year 
surpassing the largest domestic growth rate since the pandemic. In 
order for these trends to continue, and to be accommodated, it is 
paramount that TSA and CBP are provided the leadership and resources 
needed to adequately plan for future passenger travel and cargo 
transportation demands and the staffing levels necessary to effectively 
and efficiently operate airport checkpoints and major Ports of Entry 
(POEs).
    One major component of providing those resources would be the 
repeal of the diversion of TSA Passenger Security Fee, as all fees 
collected for security should go directly toward their intended 
purpose. Ending diversion would restore $10 billion in funding to 
modernize TSA and put new identity verification, on-person screening 
and baggage scanning technology in every U.S. airport lane within 5 
years. Equally important are investments in checked baggage screening 
Explosive Detection Systems (EDS), cargo screening algorithms, 
detection standards, and at-scale screening methods to include the use 
of canine.
    Additionally, since 2004, checked baggage EDS recapitalization has 
been funded by the Aviation Security Capital Fund (ASCF). The ASCF 
currently provides $250 million each fiscal year, and its authorization 
will sunset at the end of fiscal year if not extended or modernized. We 
urge the committee to ensure these important technology funds remain a 
priority.
prioritize advance planning and information sharing to manage aviation 
                    security and operational impacts
    In 2024, A4A reported a record-setting summer travel season 
transporting an increase of 6.3 percent more passengers than the year 
prior. As international passenger travel returned last year, CBP 
experienced a significant number of peak passenger facilitation days as 
well.
    In addition to TSA's ability to support SEAR 1 and NSSEs, it must 
manage operations during peak travel seasons in the United States 
including spring break, Memorial Day, July 4th, and other significant 
holiday periods. A4A and our member airlines have robust stakeholder 
engagement at both the Headquarters and local airport levels. 
Bidirectional communication and information sharing is critical for 
advance planning to ensure adequate resources are available and 
contingency plans are ready in anticipation of unexpected weather, 
screening equipment failures, or other unforeseen events. In advance of 
peak travel periods, TSA briefs industry on its operational staffing 
plans that includes key metrics projecting how many people are expected 
to travel and undergo screening, the estimated busiest travel days 
based on prior year and estimated growth data, how many officers are 
needed to support screening operations and what their plans are for 
forward deploying officers or other additional resources like passenger 
screening canine teams or prepositioning equipment parts to the busiest 
airport locations.
    As the United States prepares for these significant international 
events, TSA must also consider creative ways to manage unprecedented 
travel volumes and the pressure this will put on the traditional 
checkpoint locations. The Reimbursable Screening Services Program 
(RSSP) is a pilot program that enables TSA to be reimbursed for 
establishing and providing screening services outside an airport 
terminal's existing primary screening area for passengers. Authorized 
as a pilot program by Congress in 2019, this allows TSA to enter into 
reimbursable agreements with up to 8 TSA regulated entities, as 
outlined in 49 CFR Part 1500, to provide screening services at 
locations other than primary passenger terminal screening areas. Under 
program agreements, selected participants will reimburse TSA fully for 
all personnel and non-personnel costs associated with establishing and 
providing these additional security screening services. Congress should 
extend this authorization to allow for a larger number of locations and 
for a longer period of time.
 leverage innovation for security and facilitation during large-scale 
                                 events
    The airline industry drives innovation through constant investment 
in new technologies and services. We believe industry's contributions 
lead to better security and facilitation outcomes. The aviation 
industry is undergoing a digital transformation, with new technologies 
being integrated into every aspect. From on-line booking and self-
service check-in to biometric identification and artificial 
intelligence, technology is changing how we travel. In the last year, 
there has been a significant increase in the use of biometric 
technology, such as facial recognition, at airports for security and 
boarding procedures. This technology enhances security and efficiency 
while improving the passenger experience by reducing wait times and 
eliminating the need for physical document checks.
    By investing in modernized infrastructure and technologies, the 
United States can reduce long airport screening times, streamline 
customs processes, and eliminate bureaucratic delays, all while 
strengthening national security. CBP is working with industry on 
solutions that improve the arrival process. For example, Seamless 
Border Entry (SBE) is a new benefit for trusted travelers that provides 
a touchless experience and minimizes delays while entering the country 
through Global Entry. Similarly, CBP is working with aviation 
stakeholders to make improvements to the international arrival process 
for U.S. Citizens in the air environment. The Enhanced Passenger 
Process (EPP) leverages technology to increase efficiencies by 
connecting the passenger's identity through the auto-capture photograph 
of a traveler; conducting a U.S. citizen check and performing a real-
time vetting check. Our members are working closely with CBP to promote 
the use of digital applications such as Global Entry (GE), NEXUS, 
SENTRI, and Mobile Passport Control (MPC) to help expedite the arrival 
of eligible passengers, allowing CBP to focus on processing the 
additional volume of arriving foreign nationals. We recommend the 
committee support and encourage DHS, CBP, and TSA effectively utilizing 
and leveraging innovation to better the travel experience.
    The use of recreational drones during special events or the 
potential for nefarious activity is something DHS and Congress should 
take seriously and ensure Counter-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-UAS) 
legislation is passed. Federal agencies have long called for expanded 
C-UAS authorities beyond the Department of Justice and DHS remit, and 
A4A would like to see TSA designated as a lead Federal agency with 
authority to detect, track, identify, and mitigate threats to aviation 
in the airport environment.
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide recommendations and we 
look forward to working with the committee to help promote innovation 
while prioritizing the safety and security of the traveling public.
            Sincerely,
                                           Haley Gallagher,
   Vice President, Security and Facilitation, Airlines for America.

    Mr. Gimenez. I now recognize Mr. Freeman for 5 minutes to 
summarize his statement.
    Mr. Freeman, you're recognized for 5 minutes.

   STATEMENT OF GEOFF FREEMAN, PRESIDENT AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE 
                OFFICER, U.S. TRAVEL ASSOCIATION

    Mr. Freeman. Thank you, Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member 
McIver, Ranking Member Thompson, Congressman Crane, I 
appreciate the opportunity to be with you today.
    I'm Jeff Freeman, president and CEO of the U.S. Travel 
Association, representing all aspects of the $2 trillion travel 
industry: airlines, airports, theme parks, hotels, destinations 
from coast to coast. I want to thank you at the outset for your 
appreciation for the travel industry and the impact that it 
has.
    Travel is a vital economic engine, contributing nearly $3 
trillion annually and supporting more than 15 million jobs 
across the United States, more than 10 percent of our Nation's 
work force.
    Travel strengthens America's global standing, encourages 
business and cultural exchange, and generates significant tax 
revenue. In 2024, international visitors alone contributed $181 
billion to our economy.
    But we can't count on this continued success without 
investments and reforms. Our infrastructure is failing to keep 
pace with the increasing demand for travel. For example, the 
Transportation Security Administration screened more than 3 
million travelers on 2 occasions last year. By 2028, we are 
projected to see 100 days per year with that same volume. Our 
systems, from security to customs to air traffic control, are 
outdated and not prepared for this surge.
    It is not just about inefficiencies. It is also about 
global competition. Countries like China, India, and Saudi 
Arabia are making rapid advancements to their travel 
infrastructure, and we risk falling behind if we don't act 
swiftly.
    The next decade presents a tremendous opportunity. Major 
events like the 2026 World Cup, America's 250th anniversary, 
and the 2028 Olympics are expected to spur domestic travel and 
bring millions of international travelers to the United States. 
But, without modernizing our travel infrastructure, we will not 
capture the full economic benefit of these events.
    President Trump's creation of the White House task force 
for the World Cup is a step in the right direction, but much 
more is necessary to ensure that our country can maximize the 
travel opportunity.
    To help meet these challenges U.S. Travel developed a 
comprehensive blueprint for the future of American travel, 
focusing on the following key policy recommendations: No. 1, we 
need greater government leadership. Travel needs dedicated 
leadership at the highest levels of government. We urge 
Congress and the administration to prioritize travel policy and 
create a sustainable model for overseeing travel improvements 
from end to end.
    No. 2, we've got to address visa processing reform. Long 
delays and visitor visa processing hurts our ability to attract 
international visitors. We recommend providing full-strength 
consular staffing, extending visa validity for vetted lawful 
visitors, and establishing a national vetting service to lead 
visa processing. This will ensure the United States remains an 
attractive destination while maintaining strong national 
security.
    No. 3, we have got to revolutionize TSA screening. Airport 
screening relies on inconsistent, unpleasant, and manual 
processes. We recommend immediately ending the diversion of the 
passenger security fee and increasing technology funding to 
place new identity verification on person-screening and 
baggage-screening technology in every U.S. airport lane within 
the next 5 years. This will improve security, reduce wait 
times, and create a more seamless experience, allowing all 
travelers to carry water bottles and larger liquids, leave all 
electronics in their bags, and keep their shoes, jackets, and 
belts on their person.
    Finally, we have got to create a world-class customs 
process. We need to modernize the international arrival process 
for our guests. We recommend increasing CBP officer staffing at 
airports of entry while using biometric technology and enhanced 
traveler vetting to reduce processing times. This will allow 
the automated entry of trusted travelers and returning 
Americans while enabling CBP officers to focus their inspection 
efforts on unknown individuals.
    These 4 steps are critical to ensuring the United States 
remains a global leader in travel and that our infrastructure 
can handle the increasing demand. The status quo is not an 
option. Travel demand is growing. Our infrastructure is aging. 
Global competitors are moving quickly. If we fail to act, we 
risk losing economic opportunities, diminishing America's 
competitive edge, and foregoing millions of foreign visitors.
    Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward 
to answering any questions you may have.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Freeman follows:]
                  Prepared Statement of Geoff Freeman
                             April 8, 2025
    Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member McIver, Chairman Green, Ranking 
Member Thompson, and Members of the Subcommittee on Transportation and 
Maritime Security: Thank you for the opportunity to testify today on 
behalf of the U.S. Travel Association. I am Geoff Freeman, president 
and CEO of the U.S. Travel Association, the leading organization 
advocating for the travel industry in the United States. Our 
association represents every segment of the travel industry--airlines, 
airports, hotels, theme parks, rental car companies, cruise lines, and 
destinations--working together to grow travel to and within the United 
States.
         1. introduction to u.s. travel and the travel industry
    Travel is an economic powerhouse in the United States, driving 
nearly $2.9 trillion in economic activity each year. The travel 
industry supports more than 15 million jobs across the country--
representing more than 10 percent of the U.S. workforce. These jobs 
span a diverse range of sectors, from aviation to hospitality to 
destination services. Beyond the numbers, travel drives critical tax 
revenue at the Federal, State, and local levels and strengthens 
America's standing in the world by fostering international diplomacy 
and business.
    In 2024, international visitors injected $181 billion into our 
economy. Beyond its economic contributions, the travel industry helps 
strengthen America's standing globally, attracts talent and investment, 
and encourages cultural exchange. The United States is a world leader 
in travel, but we now face growing challenges that threaten both the 
future of the industry and America's competitive edge.
            2. the american travel system is under pressure
    The reality is: Bold leadership is required now to prioritize 
travel. Our travel systems are under pressure, and without immediate 
action, we risk falling behind. Last year, TSA broke records screening 
more than 3 million passengers not once, but twice. By next year, TSA 
will hit that number 50 times annually--equivalent to 50 Thanksgiving 
days in a single year. By 2028, we're looking at 100 days per year with 
3 million screenings. These numbers reflect the exponential growth in 
demand for air travel, as more people travel domestically and 
internationally.
    However, our travel infrastructure is not equipped to handle these 
increasing numbers. We face:
   Bureaucratic inefficiencies.--Long wait times at TSA 
        checkpoints, customs, and visa processing hurt both the travel 
        experience and our economy.
   Outdated technology.--Much of our air traffic control (ATC) 
        infrastructure still uses antiquated systems that need 
        modernizing. Airport security and customs technology also need 
        significant investment to streamline passenger flow and 
        maintain high security standards.
   Global competition.--Countries like China, India, and Saudi 
        Arabia are rapidly advancing their travel infrastructure, 
        putting the United States at risk of losing market share. These 
        nations are making massive investments in their travel sectors, 
        leaving the United States vulnerable if we don't act 
        decisively.
    Without modernization, we risk not only missing out on economic 
opportunities but also failing to meet the growing demands of global 
travelers. The competition is moving fast, and we must accelerate our 
own efforts to keep pace.
           3. golden opportunity with a mega decade of events
    The next decade presents an extraordinary opportunity for the 
United States to further solidify its leadership in global travel. 
Major events over the next 4 years such as the 2025 Club World Cup, 
Ryder Cup, the 2026 World Cup, America's 250th anniversary, and 2028 
Olympics are expected to contribute nearly $100 billion in economic 
activity and bring an estimated 40 million international travelers.
    However, with this tremendous opportunity comes a set of 
challenges. The surge in travel will place immense pressure on our 
infrastructure, and we must ensure we are ready to handle the increased 
demand. This means addressing key issues in safety, security, and 
efficient travel facilitation. If we fail to modernize and adapt, we 
risk not fully capturing the economic benefits and the potential for 
growth these events will bring, while giving our competitors the chance 
to question our leadership on the global stage.
    We are grateful for President Trump's immediate action to establish 
the White House Task Force on the FIFA World Cup 2026, which will 
provide senior leadership and coordination across Government to ensure 
the United States is fully prepared to accommodate the millions of 
travelers expected for the 2025 Club World Cup and the 2026 World Cup. 
By bringing together the necessary resources and expertise, the task 
force will provide the foundation for a transformative mega decade of 
events that will benefit not only the travel industry but the Nation as 
a whole.
    Through this effort, we have an opportunity to drive innovation, 
modernize infrastructure, and ensure America remains a premier 
destination for travel and business. With careful planning and 
strategic investments, we can leverage this moment to further 
strengthen our economy, enhance security, and showcase America's role 
as a global leader in the travel and hospitality sectors.
                4. vision for american travel dominance
    To meet these challenges head-on, U.S. Travel has worked alongside 
a slate of distinguished commission of leaders to create a 
comprehensive blueprint for the future of American travel. This is the 
Congress that can truly usher in robust innovation, make wholesale 
upgrades, and create a new system that sets America apart from the rest 
of the world.
    Our proposed solutions focus on transforming the entire travel 
experience, from pre-travel planning to arrival, to ensure a seamless 
and secure process for travelers. The United States is currently the 
only G20 nation without a dedicated leader or agency overseeing travel 
policy. We encourage Congress and the administration to ensure a 
similar sustainable model that prioritizes travel policy and drives 
meaningful progress for decades to come.
    Our full report and recommendations can be viewed at 
showcaseamericantravel.org and I have included an executive summary of 
the report as an addendum to my testimony. Here are the key components 
of our vision:
   Government Leadership.--Bold leadership from the highest 
        levels of government is essential. We commend President Trump's 
        creation of Task Force 250 and the 2026 World Cup Task Force, 
        and we urge continued focus on ensuring our travel 
        infrastructure is ready for the future.
   Visa Processing Reform.--Long delays in visa processing 
        remain a major barrier to attracting international visitors--
        with some U.S. embassies and consulates seeing more than 400-
        day wait times for visa applicants to secure an interview. We 
        recommend reforms to streamline and reduce bureaucratic delays, 
        ensuring that the United States remains an attractive 
        destination for global travelers while continuing to strengthen 
        national security.
   Revolutionizing TSA Screening.--It's time to rethink 
        aviation security. The last breakthrough in airport screening 
        was TSA PreCheck, which is more than a decade old. It's time 
        for the next big leap in innovation. By equipping every TSA 
        lane with state-of-the-art biometrics, advanced imaging 
        technology (AIT), and Computed Tomography (CT) baggage scanners 
        within 5 years, we can significantly improve security while 
        reducing wait times. A largely manual operation that creates an 
        inefficient and unpleasant process for both officers and 
        travelers can become a modern, automated experience where 
        officers focus on risk and travelers can carry larger liquids 
        and leave their shoes, jackets, and belts on.
   Creating a World-Class Customs Process.--We must modernize 
        U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) operations to make the 
        arrival process as seamless as possible. This means 
        implementing advanced traveler vetting and biometric 
        capabilities to dramatically reduce processing times at 
        airports--allowing U.S. travelers to clear customs faster than 
        ever, and Trusted Travelers passing through without even 
        stopping--thanks to full automation. With the right tools and 
        increased CBP staffing at international airports, we can 
        maintain the highest levels of security while facilitating the 
        smooth entry of millions of lawful visitors for these global 
        events.
   Modern and Fully-Staffed Air Traffic Control System.--The 
        Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is approximately 3,000 
        controllers short of its staffing needs and 77 percent of the 
        most critical facilities across the system are understaffed. 
        The ATC system relies on decades-old radar, paper strips, and 
        systems run on floppy disks. We applaud President Trump and 
        Secretary Duffy for their commitment to expanding pathways for 
        controller certification. We call on Congress to do its part by 
        providing full funding for ATC staffing, providing emergency 
        appropriations to rapidly upgrade key parts of the ATC system, 
        and by designating ATC investments as mandatory spending.
                             5. conclusion
    The next decade represents a defining moment for the American 
travel experience. The status quo is not an option. Travel demand is 
surging, our infrastructure is aging, and global competitors are moving 
fast. If we fail to act, we risk turning travelers away, ceding 
economic opportunities, and compromising our leadership in the world. 
The steps we take today will determine whether the United States 
remains the global leader in travel or struggles to keep pace with 
competitors.
    Travel is not just an economic driver--it is essential to America's 
global competitiveness and leadership. U.S. Travel stands ready to 
partner with Congress and the administration to ensure we modernize our 
infrastructure and unlock the full economic potential of our travel 
system. But we cannot afford to wait. This is the future of travel. 
It's bold, it's achievable--and it's time to make it happen.
    I look forward to working with you to make this vision a reality. 
Thank you for your time and consideration. I am happy to answer any 
questions you may have.
                           Executive Summary
    America is no longer the top destination for global travel. 
International visitation to the United States peaked in 2018 under 
President Trump but has failed to reach those levels since. The United 
States now ranks behind Spain and France in the global competition for 
visitors. China is on a path to catch or surpass us over the next 
decade. Our competitors are investing billions to leapfrog the United 
States and win a bigger share of the $11.1 trillion in economic 
benefits from the global travel market.
    It's time for a new strategy--a strategy to secure America's global 
travel leadership and establish the United States as the world's top 
destination. Just regaining our lost market share, which declined from 
12.8 percent to 9.1 percent since 2015, would generate 127 million 
additional visitors over the next decade, resulting in $478 billion in 
additional spending with U.S. businesses, 140,000 new American jobs, 
and generate $55 billion in tax revenue.
    But we should aim higher. And the opportunity is right on our 
doorstep.
    Over the next 4 years, America is set to host several premier 
events--including the 2025 Ryder Cup, America's 250th birthday, the 
2026 FIFA World Cup, and the 2028 Summer Olympic and Paralympic Games.
    With Presidential leadership and the right policies in place, these 
events can welcome 40 million international visitors and drive $95 
billion in economic activity.
    To help seize this opportunity and regain American travel 
dominance, the U.S. Travel Association established the Commission on 
Seamless and Secure Travel. Comprised of key leaders across the private 
and public sectors, the commission spent nearly a year gathering 
evidence, studying the latest security technologies, and learning how 
progress is being made both at home and abroad.
    The commission's report offers a guide for the Trump administration 
and Congress to fulfill President Trump's pledge to usher in a Golden 
Age of Travel. Based on the commission's work, U.S. Travel recommends 
that Congress and the Trump administration take 4 crucial steps to make 
America the top travel destination:
                                   1
    Establish White House leadership to showcase America at premier 
events.--In the first 100 days, the Trump administration should 
establish an interagency task force, chaired by a senior White House 
official, to bring sustained leadership and focus across the Federal 
Government to take advantage of global events coming our way over the 
next 4 years. The administration should leverage Brand USA, a public-
private partnership, to market America's destinations to the world and 
increase international visitation for these events.
                                   2
    Deliver on President Trump's promise to efficiently and securely 
process visas for the 2026 FIFA World Cup.
   Provide full-strength consular staffing for visa 
        processing.--Fully staff visa processing windows during all 
        available business hours and surge staff to remotely process 
        visa applications.
   Extend visa validity for vetted, lawful visitors.--Extend B-
        1/B-2 visa validity for 2 years for lawful visa holders who 
        have never been refused a visa, have previously visited the 
        United States, left the country on time, and have no 
        immigration or criminal violations.
   Establish a National Vetting Service that builds on 
        President Trump's National Vetting Center.--Rather than relying 
        on entry-level foreign service bureaucrats to conduct visa 
        processing, seek legislation to establish a new National 
        Vetting Service (NVS) dedicated to visa processing and traveler 
        vetting. The NVS would be a professional national security 
        workforce that is fully funded through visa fees, separate from 
        the Foreign Service, and could be surged anywhere in the world 
        to efficiently handle visa processing demand.
   Create a ``Secure Travel Partnership'' program to increase 
        countries that have strong travel security agreements with the 
        United States.--Establish a Secure Travel Partnership program 
        where countries could qualify for visa facilitation benefits by 
        meeting all security requirements of the Visa Waiver Program 
        (VWP) and keeping refusal rates below 12 percent and overstay 
        rates below 5 percent. In return, highly qualified first-time 
        B-1/B-2 visa applicants from Partnership countries could have 
        in-person interviews and biometric collection done by U.S. 
        Customs and Border Protection (CBP) upon arrival at U.S. 
        airports, rather than by appointment at U.S. consulates and 
        embassies.
                                   3
    Create the world's most advanced and secure airport screening 
process.--Deploy state-of-the-art screening technology that strengthens 
security AND reduces wait times by allowing all travelers to carry 
water bottles and larger liquids, leave all electronics in their bags 
and keep their shoes, jackets, and belts on.
   Make a historic investment in security technology.--
        Immediately end the diversion of the Passenger Security Fee and 
        increase technology funding to generate $10 billion to 
        modernize the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and 
        put new identity verification, on-person screening and baggage 
        scanning technology in every U.S. airport lane within 5 years.
                                   4
    Create strong, modern and efficient airport borders to keep America 
safe and global travel moving.
   Provide full-strength staffing at airport customs.--Fund an 
        additional 2,000 CBP officers to fully staff U.S. airports of 
        entry. Surge CBP staffing to the National Targeting Center, 
        National Vetting Center, and Global Entry processing to 
        maximize security while facilitating record travel.
   End hours-long customs wait times for Americans returning 
        home from abroad.--Expand CBP's Enhanced Passenger Processing 
        (EPP) and Seamless Border Entry (SBE) to the top 25 airports by 
        the end of 2026. EPP allows low-risk U.S. citizens to forgo 
        customs interviews if they pass pre-arrival vetting, have their 
        identities biometrically confirmed, and have nothing to 
        declare. SBE uses advanced biometric technology to confirm the 
        identities of Global Entry travelers on the move, without the 
        need to stop at a kiosk.
   Strengthen protection against immigration overstays.--Invest 
        $600 million to complete CBP's biometric air exit system within 
        2 years and enhance the Traveler Verification Service (TVS) 
        that is used to identify travelers entering and exiting the 
        United States.
    Implementing these recommendations will strengthen our economy, 
create jobs across the country, and improve our trade balance while 
ensuring America remains a secure and welcoming destination for 
international travelers. We need a new strategy to secure America's 
global travel leadership.
    To learn how modernizing our travel systems will deliver a world-
class experience for both domestic and international travelers, visit 
ShowcaseAmericanTravel.org.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, Mr. Freeman.
    Now I recognize Mr. Gruen for 5 minutes to summarize his 
opening statement.

 STATEMENT OF JON GRUEN, CHAIRMAN AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, 
                      FORTEM TECHNOLOGIES

    Mr. Gruen. Good morning, Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member 
McIver, and honorable Members of the Transportation and 
Maritime Security Subcommittee.
    My name is Jon Gruen, and I am the chief executive officer 
of Fortem Technologies. I'm grateful for the opportunity to 
testify today on the security of upcoming international events.
    Fortem was founded in 2016 to develop and produce the 
technology needed to defeat drones. We have become a global 
leader in drone detection and mitigation, focused on systems 
that can operate safely in the populated areas and in the 
national air space.
    Our technology is currently deployed by CBP at the Southern 
Border, on U.S. military bases, and at critical infrastructure 
sites worldwide.
    Fortem also provided counter-drone solutions to the 2020 
Olympic games in Tokyo, the 2022 World Cup games in Qatar, and 
the recent inauguration of President Trump here in the District 
of Columbia.
    Over the next decade, the United States will host multiple 
major international sporting events. As we approach these 
global events, it is vital that we assess today's threat 
landscape and act now to lower the risk of incidents.
    As you are well aware, the occurrence of drone threats has 
surged in recent years, with the Department of Defense and 
Homeland Security reporting thousands of unauthorized drone 
incidents annually. Recent domestic drone incidents, like the 
collision with the firefighting aircraft in Los Angeles and one 
that halted an NFL playoff game are warnings of what is to come 
if we don't act.
    Another example includes the incursion that occurred over 
Joint Base Langley-Eustis in 2023, which triggered a month-long 
interagency attempt to deploy counter-drone assets to no avail. 
In this incident, standard detection and defeat systems failed, 
offering no advanced warning of incoming drones or a means to 
defeat what should have been considered a clear and present 
danger. This event highlighted a new category of threats we are 
facing: dark drones, aircraft designed to evade detection by 
not emitting RF signals.
    To protect sensitive sites and large public gatherings, 
dark drone detection and kinetic mitigation must be the core of 
any successful counter-drone system.
    Thankfully, we do have the technology to defeat rogue 
drones before they cause harm. Companies like mine have 
developed AI-powered sensors necessary to identify the threats, 
including dark drones, as well as autonomous interceptor drones 
capable of safely taking down the threats. Our system 
intercepts drones with an aerial net capture system and tows 
them to predetermined locations, ensuring the safety of 
bystanders and allowing for forensics on the captured drone.
    As I mentioned, this technology has protected spectators at 
the World Cup, Olympics, and other significant events before. 
We must field these defensive solutions at scale in the 
homeland now, as time is a critical aspect in fielding an 
effective counter-drone system. Based on our experience, 
counter-drone systems must start to be deployed 12 months 
before the event, to allow time for system delivery, site 
analysis, and operational training.
    With the 2026 World Cup just over a year away, Federal 
agencies must be given the tools and authorities they need, and 
local law enforcement must be empowered to respond to drone 
threats quickly and effectively.
    Currently, counter-drone authorities are spread across 
multiple agencies, with delayed abilities to mitigate known 
threats. In the instance a drone is detected and determined to 
be a danger, authorized Federal personnel must be present and 
still request explicit clearance to take mitigation action.
    The chaos that ensured when drone activity disrupted 
flights at Newark airport last year is a glaring example of our 
inability to respond to drone threats in real time. I commend 
this committee's thoughtful bipartisan work to resolve this 
challenge through H.R. 8610 last year and believe this bill 
should be passed swiftly in the new Congress. We need 
centralized, streamlined counter-drone processes now. We must 
delegate mitigation authority to State and local law 
enforcement. Their involvement is critical for faster response 
and better security at a 12-plus city event like the World Cup, 
where Federal resources will be stretched thin.
    I thank you. I look forward to answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Gruen follows:]
                    Prepared Statement of Jon Gruen
                             April 8, 2025
    Good morning, Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member McIver, and 
honorable Members of the Transportation and Maritime Security 
Subcommittee. My name is Jon Gruen, and I am the chief executive 
officer of Fortem Technologies. I'm grateful for the opportunity to 
testify today on the timely issue of security in upcoming international 
events in the United States.
    Fortem was founded in 2016 with the explicit intention of 
developing and producing the technology necessary to defeat a key 
threat that we saw on the horizon: drones. Nine years later, we have 
grown to be a global leader in drone detection and kinetic mitigation 
capabilities, specializing in low-collateral effect systems that can 
operate safely in populated areas and in the National air space. This 
unique specialty has garnered attention from Government agencies and 
private stakeholders alike, and we are currently deployed at military 
bases both in the homeland and abroad, with CBP at the Southern Border, 
and with dozens of partners across the globe in critical infrastructure 
and public-event security.
    Over the next decade, the United States will host the 2026 Men's 
World Cup, the 2028 Summer Olympics, the 2031 Women's World Cup, the 
2031 Rugby World Cup, and the 2034 Winter Olympics. These are in 
addition to our regularly-held domestic sporting events that frequently 
surpass 100,000 patrons in attendance.
    As we approach these large events in the United States, all of 
which will have a significant international presence, it is incredibly 
important to do what this committee is discussing today: analyze what 
the state of security threats will be to the public and participants at 
the time of those events, and what should be done now to lower the risk 
of a security incident.
    I started gaining experience in securing large international events 
as the U.S. Special Operations Command lead to the inter-agency Task 
Force for the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens. At the time, the largest 
deployment of U.S. inter-agency personnel ever. My recent experiences 
are based on my company's work providing air space awareness and 
counter-drone solutions to the 2020 Olympic Games in Tokyo, the 2022 
World Cup Games in Qatar, and the recent inauguration of President 
Trump right here on Capitol Hill.
    There are numerous potential threats to large public events, but 
law enforcement and security personnel have developed capabilities to 
mitigate most of them. However, there is one threat which evolves every 
day, and has proliferated at such a fast pace, that law enforcement 
does not have the tools to mitigate it. Drones are the new weapon of 
choice for bad actors around the world, posing an escalating threat to 
security. Public venues and critical infrastructure, such as airports 
and energy sites, are equally vulnerable to what might be the greatest 
asymmetric advantage ever achieved by people intent on death and 
damage.
    As you are well aware, the occurrence of drone threats against 
critical infrastructure has surged by over 400 percent in the past 5 
years, with the Department of Defense and Homeland Security reporting 
thousands of unauthorized drone incidents annually, posing escalating 
risks to national security. The effectiveness of these drones to cause 
catastrophic damage is also growing, as displayed in real-time on the 
battlefields of Ukraine where the development time line for new drone 
technologies and tactics is 60 days.
    Recent domestic incidents, such as a drone collision with a 
firefighting aircraft in Los Angeles and a rogue drone that shut down 
the Steelers-Ravens NFL Playoff game, will happen again at coming 
attractions if we don't act now. Even larger incidents, such as at 
Joint Base Langley-Eustis on December 6, 2023, resulted in a near-
month-long inter-agency response to deploy counter-drone assets, 
technology and personnel, all to no avail. Months later a similar 
incident over a key critical infrastructure site took place in the 
Pacific Northwest, where law enforcement personnel observed multiple 
drones flying at consistent intervals for more than a week. In both 
incidents, traditional drone detect-and-defeat solutions did not work. 
There was no advanced warning of incoming drones and no countermeasure 
to defeat what should be considered a clear and present danger.
    These incidents have led to the broad acceptance that traditional 
drone countermeasures are no longer sufficient to protect against what 
was once thought to be a future threat--dark drones, or drones 
specifically designed to not emit RF signatures and thereby evade 
traditional drone detection solutions. In order to adequately protect 
any sensitive site or large public gathering today, dark drone 
detection and kinetic mitigation must be the core of any successful 
counter-drone system.
    Thankfully, we do have the technology to detect, track, and 
neutralize rogue drones before they cause harm. Companies like mine 
have developed AI-powered sensors necessary to identify the threats, 
including dark drones, as well as autonomous interceptor drones capable 
of taking down threats in real-time without collateral damage. Our 
system intercepts drones with aerial net capture, and then tows them to 
a pre-determined location, ensuring the safety of bystanders and 
allowing for forensics on the captured drone. As I mentioned before, 
this technology has protected spectators at the World Cup, Olympics, 
the Inauguration and other significant international events. We must 
field these defensive solutions at scale in the homeland now, as time 
is a critical aspect in fielding an effective counter-drone system.
    Based on our experience, counter-drone systems must start to be 
deployed 12 months before the event. During that time, there needs to 
be analysis of site-specific layered solutions; hardware must be 
purchased, delivered, and integrated; teams identified and trained on 
this new technology; concepts of operations developed; and small 
hardware and software modifications made to maximize the effectiveness 
of those operations.
    With the 2026 World Cup just over a year away, we must act quickly 
to enable relevant Federal agencies to procure and deploy these assets 
as fast as possible and ensure that these agencies and their local law 
enforcement partners have the authority to act quickly in response to a 
threat. In a drone attack, seconds count: giving law enforcement 
personnel on the ground the ability to do their jobs is just common 
sense.
    Currently, the responsibility of countering the threat of drones is 
spread across multiple agencies with limited authority to counter drone 
threats in real time. In the instance a drone is detected and 
determined to be a threat, authorized Federal personnel must be present 
and still request explicit clearance in order to take mitigative 
action. These barriers prevent even well-prepared organizations, such 
as owners of stadiums or energy sites, from taking proactive action, 
and point to a larger systemic challenge that extends beyond large 
events like the World Cup. The chaos that ensued when unauthorized 
drone activity disrupted flights at Newark International Airport is a 
glaring example of our inability to detect and respond in real time.
    Long-term resolution to the authorities' challenge has been a topic 
of debate in Congress for some time, and I am grateful for the 
thoughtful bipartisan legislation from this committee's work on H.R. 
8610 last year. However, these upcoming events require centralized and 
streamlined counter-drone processes as soon as possible to ensure their 
security. In addition, there needs to be delegation of authorities to 
more State and local law enforcement, even if it is temporary 
authorization for these events. Their involvement will enable greater 
flexibility, faster responses, and better security at a 12+ city event 
like the World Cup where there may not be enough Federal personnel or 
assets to deploy. Empowering State and local law enforcement to defend 
high-risk locations from unauthorized drones will be critical to 
success.
    We have been lucky that many recent drone incidents were not 
catastrophic, but luck is not a security strategy. The threat is real, 
but the solution is within reach. I urge Congress to provide Federal 
agencies with the resources necessary to procure capable counter-drone 
systems as soon as possible, and to make sure that Federal, State, and 
local law enforcement are granted the appropriate authorities needed to 
protect these high-visibility events. I'm grateful for the opportunity 
to testify today, and look forward to engaging with all of you on this 
topic.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, Mr. Gruen.
    I now recognize Dr. Kelley for 5 minutes to summarize his 
opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF EVERETT B. KELLEY, PH.D., NATIONAL PRESIDENT, 
       AMERICAN FEDERATION OF GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES (AFGE)

    Mr. Kelley. Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member McIver, 
Chairman Green, Ranking Member Thompson, and Members of the 
subcommittee, my name is Everett Kelley. I am the national 
president of the American Federation of Government Employees, 
AFGE. On behalf of the over 820,000 Federal and D.C. Government 
workers represented by my union, including more than 47,000 
transportation security officers, I appreciate the opportunity 
to testify today.
    The decision by the Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi 
Noem to unilaterally rescind the 2024 collective bargaining 
agreement between AFGE and the Transportation Security 
Administration has created an unprecedented crisis for TSOs at 
a time when our Nation's aviation security system is facing 
increasing demands.
    This decision undermines work force stability and aviation 
security as we prepare for significant international events 
like America's 250th birthday next year and the summer Olympic 
games in 2028.
    Since 2011, AFGE has worked with TSA to establish a 
framework for genuine collective bargaining that balances 
aviation security needs with workers' rights. Our agreement has 
strengthened workplace policies while maintaining TSA's 
operational flexibilities.
    The 2024 CBA marked a significant milestone, providing 
long-term stability and predictable working conditions for TSOs 
while supporting TSA's mission.
    The abrupt termination of this agreement by Secretary Noem 
has dismantled years of progress. This action has left over 
47,000 TSOs vulnerable to arbitrary management decisions, 
undermining morale, and creating instability within the TSA's 
work force.
    Secretary Noem's decision to rescind our CBA has created 
immediate uncertainty for TSOs, who rely on this protection for 
predictable working conditions. Without established procedures 
for shift bidding, leave approval, or grievance resolution, 
TSOs face arbitrary decisions that undermine morale and job 
satisfaction. This instability will lead to higher turnover 
rates, a direct threat to aviation security and experienced 
officers leave their post.
    The timing could not be worse. Major interaction in 
international events will significantly increase traveler 
volumes in the coming years, regarding a fully-staffed and 
motivated work force operating under standardized procedures. 
Workforce instability threatens screening consistencies and 
efficiency during these critical periods when heightened 
security vigilance is essential.
    To address this crisis, Congress must take immediate 
action. And this is an ask. First, AFGE urges Congress to pass 
legislation to codify collective bargaining rights for TSOs. 
AFGE strongly supports the right--for the TSA Workforce Act, 
H.R. 2086, introduced by Ranking Member Bennie Thompson. This 
bipartisan legislation will provide permanence to TSOs' labor 
rights under title 5 of the U.S. Code, ensuring fair agreement 
procedures and Merit System Protection Board appeal rights. 
Congress needs to prioritize this legislation.
    Second, AFGE asks Congress to restore our rescinded 
collective bargaining agreement. Congress needs to pass 
legislation mandating the reinstatement of 2024 CBA immediately 
to restore stability to the TSA work force.
    Finally, Congress needs to utilize the oversight authority. 
Congress must investigate Secretary Noem's decisions through 
public hearings that examine its legal basis and factual 
justification. DHS officials should be required to provide 
evidence supporting the claim against AFGE while explaining how 
this actually aligns with national security priorities.
    The decision to rescind the 2024 collective bargaining 
agreement represents an unprecedented attack on workers' rights 
that threatens aviation security at a critical time for our 
Nation. TSO performs vital functions in protecting America's 
transportation system. They deserve dignity, respect, and fair 
working conditions provided to bind the agreements negotiated 
on their behalf.
    AFGE remains committed to fighting for TSOs' rights while 
working with Congress to find solutions that balance labor 
protections with aviation security needs.
    So thank you for holding this hearing today. I look forward 
to answering any questions that you might have. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Kelley follows:]
                Prepared Statement of Everett B. Kelley
                             April 8, 2025
    Chairman Gimenez, Ranking Member McIver, Chairman Green, Ranking 
Member Thompson, and Members of the Homeland Security Committee: My 
name is Everett B. Kelley and I am the national president of the 
American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE), AFL-CIO. On behalf 
of the over 820,000 Federal and District of Columbia workers 
represented by our union, including over 47,000 Transportation Security 
Officers (TSOs) as of February 26, I appreciate the opportunity to 
offer testimony at today's hearing before the Subcommittee on 
Transportation and Maritime Security, ``America on the Global Stage: 
Examining Efforts to Secure and Improve the U.S. Travel System for 
Significant International Events.'' The recent unilateral rescission of 
the collective bargaining agreement between AFGE and the Transportation 
Security Administration (TSA) has created an unprecedented crisis for 
the TSO workforce at a time when our Nation's transportation security 
system faces increasing challenges. This decision not only violates the 
Administrative Procedure Act and is a clear form of retaliation in 
violation of the First Amendment, but also threatens to undermine our 
aviation security and the recovery of America's travel economy, as we 
prepare for significant international events, including America's 250th 
birthday, the 2026 FIFA World Cup and the 2028 Summer Olympic and 
Paralympic Games.
                               background
    For over 20 years, AFGE has represented TSOs at airports 
nationwide, with union membership remaining completely voluntary 
throughout this period. Following the establishment of the 
Transportation Security Administration after September 11, 2001, a 
framework for collective bargaining gradually evolved to balance the 
needs of management and the workforce. In February 2011, after careful 
consideration of TSA's mission requirements and consultation with 
stakeholders, then-Administrator John Pistole established a framework 
for ``genuine, binding collective bargaining'' for TSOs, recognizing 
that labor rights could be compatible with the agency's mission. This 
decision came after thoughtful evaluation of workforce data and 
listening to the perspectives of TSOs, Federal security directors, 
management, and union representatives to ensure that collective 
bargaining would support rather than hinder TSA's mission. This 
milestone represented a significant recognition that respecting 
workers' rights and ensuring transportation security are complementary, 
not contradictory goals.
    In June 2011, TSOs elected AFGE as their exclusive representative, 
establishing a labor-management relationship that would endure across 
multiple administrations, both Democratic and Republican. Our first 
collective bargaining agreement, signed in November 2012, established 
new award programs for employees, improved processes for bidding on 
shifts and leave, and created new policies governing uniforms that 
balanced professional requirements with officer comfort and 
practicality. Subsequent agreements in 2016 and 2020 built upon these 
foundations, gradually expanding the scope of bargaining while 
maintaining TSA's operational flexibility. In December 2022, 
Administrator David P. Pekoske further extended bargaining rights to 
more closely align with standard Federal-sector labor relations ``to 
the same extent as permitted under Chapter 71 of Title 5,'' reflecting 
the agency's growing recognition of the value of meaningful collective 
bargaining. This evolution demonstrated that collective bargaining at 
TSA could mature and strengthen across different administrations, 
proving that labor rights and government excellence are not mutually 
exclusive.
  the 2024 collective bargaining agreement and its abrupt termination
    The 2024 Collective Bargaining Agreement, which became effective on 
May 24, 2024, represented the culmination of years of evolving labor 
relations at TSA and was structured with a 7-year term to provide long-
term stability for both the workforce and the agency. This agreement 
represented significant advancements in addressing workplace concerns 
while ensuring TSA maintained the flexibility needed to fulfill its 
security mission. The contract included provisions for fair shift 
assignments, transparent leave policies, objective performance 
evaluation standards, and equitable disciplinary procedures--all 
fundamental elements of a productive and stable workplace. The 
agreement's 7-year duration reflected confidence in the maturity of the 
labor-management relationship and a commitment to stability and 
predictability in working conditions for the TSO workforce. 
Additionally, the agreement permitted limited mid-term bargaining to 
address emerging issues, creating a flexible framework that could adapt 
to changing mission needs while preserving essential worker 
protections.
    On February 27, 2025, without warning or consultation, Secretary of 
Homeland Security Kristi Noem signed a memorandum that specifically 
targeted AFGE by name and unilaterally rescinded the 2024 collective 
bargaining agreement. The memorandum made unsupported allegations that 
AFGE was harming TSOs and declared the 9-month-old agreement non-
binding and rescinded without any factual justification. Secretary 
Noem's directive went beyond merely terminating the contract--it 
revoked AFGE's status as the exclusive representative of TSOs, 
eliminated all collective bargaining rights and obligations, and 
stripped AFGE of all rights as the union representing TSO's. 
Approximately 1 week later, TSA informed AFGE of this decision and 
simultaneously announced it publicly, making demonstrably false claims 
about AFGE's use of official time and baselessly asserting that our 
union ``did not represent or protect'' its members' interests. This 
extraordinary action came with no identified breach of contract or 
change in circumstances that could justify such a drastic measure, 
raising serious concerns about its true motivations.
       impact on transportation security and workforce stability
    The rescission of the 2024 CBA has created immediate uncertainty 
for over 47,000 TSOs who relied on its protections for basic workplace 
fairness and predictability. Without established procedures for shift 
bidding, leave approval, and performance evaluation, TSOs now face 
arbitrary and unpredictable working conditions that undermine morale 
and job satisfaction at a time when their focus should be entirely on 
security operations. The elimination of negotiated grievance procedures 
has removed an essential mechanism for resolving workplace disputes 
fairly and efficiently, leaving TSOs vulnerable to potentially 
arbitrary management decisions without recourse. These conditions will 
create unnecessary stress and anxiety among the workforce, leading to 
decreased job satisfaction and ultimately higher turnover rates among 
the TSO workforce. There is currently a very high level of anxiety 
within the TSO workforce and many TSOs are fearful they will be 
targeted for being an AFGE member or an officer for their local. The 
potential loss of experienced TSOs represents a direct threat to our 
aviation security capabilities, as these officers possess invaluable 
institutional knowledge and screening expertise that cannot be quickly 
replaced by new TSOs or machines.
          consequences for aviation security and global events
    The timing of this disruption could not be more concerning as the 
United States prepares to host in several major international events in 
the coming years, including the 2025 Ryder Cup, America's 250th 
birthday, the 2026 FIFA World Cup, and the 2028 Summer Olympic and 
Paralympic Games, that will significantly increase demands on our 
aviation security system.
    The anticipated surge in international travelers will require a 
fully staffed, experienced, and motivated TSO workforce operating at 
maximum effectiveness to ensure security while managing increased 
passenger volumes. Workforce instability resulting from the CBA 
rescission threatens to compromise screening consistency and 
thoroughness during this critical period when heightened security 
vigilance is essential for both safety and America's global reputation 
as a premier destination for international travelers. The elimination 
of established work rules introduces unnecessary operational 
variability at a time when standardization and predictability are most 
needed to handle increased passenger volumes efficiently while 
maintaining rigorous security standards. This disruption to labor 
relations and wanton display of disrespect to the workforce at TSA 
represents a self-inflicted wound to our Nation's transportation 
security readiness at a time when we can least afford it.
                recommendations for congressional action
    Congress must consider legislative action to clarify and strengthen 
the collective bargaining rights of Transportation Security Officers to 
prevent similar unilateral actions in the future. AFGE greatly 
appreciates Ranking Member Thompson and Ranking Member McIver for 
reintroducing the Rights for the TSA Workforce Act (H.R. 2086) on March 
11. This legislation, when enacted into law, will provide permanence 
and predictability of the statutory rights and protections of title 5 
of the U.S. Code, the fairness of negotiated grievance and arbitration 
provisions, and U.S. Merit Systems Protection Board appeal rights that 
are currently lacking in the work lives of the TSO workforce. The 
Rights for the TSA Workforce Act is bipartisan legislation, supported 
by both Republicans and Democrats. AFGE urges the Homeland Security 
Committee to consider this legislation as soon as possible.
    In addition, Congress needs to pass legislation that would 
reinstate TSOs' collective bargaining agreement immediately. Ranking 
Member Thompson and Ranking Member McIver offered legislation as an 
amendment to the Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and Extensions Act 
(H.R. 1968) last month that would prevent funds being made available 
unless the Department of Homeland Security rescinds the February 27 
publication ``Supporting the TSA Workforce by Removing a Union That 
Harms Transportation Security Officers'' and replace it with the 2024 
collective bargaining agreement that TSA made with AFGE. AFGE thanks 
Ranking Member Thompson and Ranking Member McIver for their leadership 
and urges Congress to take up this legislation immediately to reinstate 
TSOs' collective bargaining agreement and make clear that Congress 
stands with America's public service officers and ensuring there are no 
negative impacts to aviation security.
    Furthermore, AFGE urges Congress to immediately exercise its 
oversight authority to examine the legal basis and factual 
justifications for Secretary Noem's decision to rescind the 2024 CBA. 
This investigation should include public hearings where TSA and DHS 
officials explain the timing, rationale, and legal authority for this 
unprecedented action against a binding contract. The oversight process 
should also examine the specific allegations made against AFGE in 
Secretary Noem's memorandum and the public announcement, requiring DHS 
to provide evidence to support claims that our union was harming TSOs 
or failing to represent their interests. These oversight activities are 
essential to ensure transparency and accountability for a decision 
impacting both aviation security and the rights of over 47,000 Federal 
employees.
                               conclusion
    The rescission of the 2024 Collective Bargaining Agreement 
represents an unprecedented attack on the rights of Transportation 
Security Officers and threatens to undermine aviation security at a 
critical time for our Nation. The men and women who serve as TSOs 
perform vital functions in protecting our Nation's transportation 
systems from threats and deserve to be treated with dignity and 
respect, including by honoring binding workplace agreements negotiated 
on their behalf. AFGE remains committed to fighting for the rights of 
TSOs through all available legal and legislative means and stands ready 
to work with Congress to find solutions that respect workers' rights 
while ensuring effective transportation security. As Congress examines 
efforts to secure and improve the U.S. travel system and prepare for 
significant international events, addressing this urgent issue needs to 
be a priority. The stability and effectiveness of our Nation's 
transportation security system depend on a motivated, experienced 
workforce operating under fair and predictable conditions of 
employment--conditions that were provided by the very agreement that 
has been unlawfully rescinded.
    Thank you for holding today's hearing and for the opportunity to 
speak on behalf of the TSO workforce represented by AFGE. I am prepared 
to answer any questions the subcommittee may have.

    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, Dr. Kelley.
    Members will be recognized in the order of seniority for 
their 5 minutes of questions.
    I recognize myself for 5 minutes of questioning.
    Mr. Freeman, have we ever reached--I know that we had the 
pandemic, and then what was the highest year that we had 
international passengers in the United States?
    Mr. Freeman. The highest year for international travel was 
2018. We have gone down or remained below that every year 
since. We, at the end of last year, were only at about 90 
percent of where we were prepandemic. So the United States 
continues to struggle to welcome international visitors in the 
numbers we previously did.
    Coming into this year, visa concerns, Customs concerns were 
top reasons for that. We can't ignore the strength of the 
dollar. We can't ignore our economy versus others coming into 
this year, but the issues that were within our control were 
500-day-plus wait times to get an interview for a visa, multi-
hour waits to get through Customs. Both of those were big 
deterrents for foreign travelers.
    Mr. Gimenez. Was that a reality before the Trump 
administration, or has that just happened in the last 60 days?
    Mr. Freeman. We've ebbed and flowed in terms of where we 
are on visa wait times. The lowest we have ever been was during 
the Obama administration where consuls around the world 
processed visas at 2 weeks or less. That has ebbed and flowed 
ever since. There were successes.
    During the Trump turn, there were more struggles coming out 
of the pandemic. We have really struggled to get the consular 
officials we need around the world and to get these visa wait 
times down.
    Mr. Gimenez. How do we end up with wait times of 2 weeks to 
500 days? How did that happen?
    Mr. Freeman. When you look at what happened post-pandemic 
or in the early days of the pandemic, all these Foreign Service 
officers came back home. They were slow to get back out to 
their consuls around the world. Processing visas is also the 
lowest rung on the totem pole of jobs within the Foreign 
Service officer community. It is not the most desired job out 
there. That is why we recommended an alternative approach to 
doing this. If we want to get all wait times down to 30 days or 
less, which is something the United States of America should 
aspire to do, we need to take a new look at how we do this. 
These fees that foreign travelers pay can cover the cost of 
creating a new service that processes travelers. There is no 
need for Foreign Service officers to do this. There is a better 
way to do it.
    We think we could also use kind-of emergency SWAT teams. 
Whenever wait times get high, we could send these officers or 
these officials into jurisdictions where they get high. The 
United States could be the most secure Nation in the world and 
also the most efficient when it comes to processing travelers.
    Mr. Gimenez. But we lack the technology, and we lack the 
manpower, and we have lacked the manpower and technology for 
some time in order to do that--also probably policy, right?
    Mr. Freeman. I'm sorry?
    Mr. Gimenez. Policy.
    Mr. Freeman. Manpower has been an enormous issue. 
Technology is an even bigger issue. I think the will to get it 
done is the largest issue, right? Where is the goal? We don't 
have a goal when it comes to processing visas. At the end of 
the Biden administration, they established the goal of 90 days 
or less. If we achieved that goal, we would have still been 
last in the world when it comes to processing visas.
    Mr. Gimenez. This was at the end of the Biden 
administration?
    Mr. Freeman. The--November of the Biden administration. We 
need to have greater aspirations when it comes to how we 
welcome travelers into this country. They want to do nothing 
more than come here, spend their money, and go home and tell 
their family and friends what a great time they had.
    Mr. Gimenez. So the Biden administration was, in close to 4 
years, basically right at the end of his administration he 
decided, well, maybe we have a 90-day period versus the 500-day 
period that some these visas have taken.
    Mr. Freeman. There is no doubt that the wait times peaked 
coming out of COVID. There were steps taken. It was a little 
too little too late. We are hopeful we can find bipartisan 
support to be more efficient in the future.
    Mr. Gimenez. By the way, I agree that the passenger 
security fee, that has been diverted for a number of years, 
needs to be fully invested in TSA. I don't believe--you're 
going to be paying for something, you are saying, ``I am paying 
a passenger security fee, it should be for passenger 
security.'' That's a novel concept I think here in the Federal 
Government. I think that that can be said for administrations 
on both sides of the aisle.
    So I would hope--I know that one of my colleagues, Nick 
LaLota, had a bill to make sure that the passenger fee went to 
technology, et cetera, that we need at TSA. I certainly support 
that. I think we need to do more of that. The fact that we're 
not going to be upgrading our system to the middle of 2040's, 
that's totally unacceptable.
    Mr. Gruen, in terms of drones--and I only have about 30 
seconds left--I found it interesting that you said that, even 
if you put your technology, say, at all these stadiums, et 
cetera, to protect, that it would take a Federal individual to 
say, ``Go ahead and knock that drone out of the sky,'' that the 
local law enforcement could not make that call on its own or 
protect its own citizens.
    Mr. Gruen. Correct. The local law enforcement, State and 
local, do not have the current authorities. Even Federal had it 
only authorized in temporary durations and only certain 
agencies.
    Mr. Gimenez. Fair enough. OK. Maybe I'll come back to a 
second round.
    With that, I yield back. Now I recognize the Ranking 
Member, the gentlewoman from New Jersey.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman.
    For many years, we all know that TSA experienced very high 
attrition rates among its front-line officers. AFGE worked for 
many years to advocate for better pay for TSOs to put them on 
the same pay scale as other Federal workers and help address 
attrition.
    In 2023, when pay raises for TSOs finally went into effect, 
TSA's attrition rate dropped nearly half.
    President Kelley, with the Trump administration now trying 
to bust TSOs union, do you expect attrition rates to rise 
again? How would higher attrition rates affect the security of 
commercial travel, as well as wait times at checkpoints?
    Mr. Kelley. Thank you for the question. I certainly think 
that it will affect attrition rates because, as we all know, 
that attrition rate went down more than half because there was 
a CBA, because there was adequate pay, because there was some 
rights for these employees on the job. They felt very secure. 
The morale was up. But now that they don't have a CBA, it was 
certainly--I expect the attrition rate to go back to where it 
was or maybe even lower, because they don't have any 
protection. They don't have any--morale seems to be going down. 
As I travel the airports and talk to various wards, you know, 
we all see that. So I think that you will see it go completely 
south.
    I think that wait time will be the result of this attrition 
rate going back because you're talking about now employee 
burnout, you know, and all these types of things that's going 
to happen that's going to affect wait time.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you.
    Mr. Freeman, earlier this year, the press reported on a 
document listing options House Republicans are considering 
including in their reconciliation bill. The document included 
proposals for increasing the passenger security fee passengers 
pay on each airline ticket and extending the diversion of fee 
collections away from TSA's budget to help fund tax cuts. What 
is the U.S. Travel Association's position on extending fee 
diversions away from TSA's budget?
    Mr. Freeman. TSA plays a critical role in the travel 
process. We value our partnership with TSA. We believe that TSA 
needs to better balance its funding between technology and 
staffing. To do that, it needs to maintain all of the resources 
that it achieves through the transportation security fee. As 
the Chairman said, none of that money should be diverted. It is 
a violation of every traveler that is out there who is 
expecting the contributions they are making when they buy that 
airline ticket to be supportive of the travel process. How we 
do that through both technology and staffing is a critical 
question.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you for that.
    In my opening statement, I talked about the decrease in 
visitation from Canadians. You talked a little bit about just 
the decrease and the differences in between travel currently 
right now. How will these reductions in Canadian visitors to 
the United States impact the travel industry and economy in 
your opinion?
    Mr. Freeman. If indeed we have a decline in Canadian 
visitation, it will be significant in terms of the effects on 
our economy. A 10 percent decline in Canadian travelers would 
cost the market about $2 billion in spending. Canada is 
critical to the United States. It's critical that we send the 
message that we want Canadian visitors to come.
    We've seen tensions in the past between nations. That 
doesn't need to become a part of the travel process. We'd like 
to see that clear message right now that Canadians, Europeans, 
all travelers are encouraged to come to the United States. That 
message could be sent more loudly right now.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you, Mr. Freeman.
    With that, I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you.
    I now recognize the gentleman from Arizona, Mr. Crane.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    This is a very important hearing today talking about travel 
into the United States and some of the big events that we have 
coming up, like the Olympics and the World Cup.
    Mr. Freeman, I want to start with you. According to the 
U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics, TSA has either halted 
data collection or has over-classified information on 
prohibited items detected and seized by TSA since 2008. My 
concern is that TSA purposely hasn't collected data or is over 
classifying data to hide embarrassing statistics that show that 
they routinely fail what the industry calls covert tests. These 
tests are an event where an undercover operative from the 
agency tests security by attempting to smuggle prohibited items 
through TSA.
    In 2015, DHS OIG John Roth issued a scathing report 
highlighting, under the Obama administration, the OIG found 
that, 96 percent of instances TSA officers used advanced 
imaging technology, or AIT, at 8 airports failed to detect 
hidden threat items. AIT is still in use today at U.S. airports 
by TSA.
    The agency doesn't have any data to suggest that these 
figures from 2025 have been improved in 2025. I am currently 
working with the Chairman on drafting a bill that would require 
TSA to submit the results of all covert testing and/or red-
teaming testing to the Committee on Homeland Security, and I 
hope this bill can be bipartisan.
    My question, sir, and please answer briefly, with TSA's 
covert test failures coupled with the fact that the agency 
hasn't collected or submitted data on failed covert testing in 
recent years, how can Congress ensure that TSA is capable of 
handling incoming travelers from around the world for upcoming 
events like America's 250th birthday, the 2026 FIFA World Cup, 
and the 2028 summer Olympics?
    Mr. Freeman. Thank you, Congressman. TSA's success is 
critical to all travelers. Travelers need confidence in their 
safety, in their security, or else they are simply not going to 
travel. So we share your concern with anything that would 
suggest that the process is anything but as safe and secure as 
it could be.
    TSA's accountability is to you and to Congress. It is to 
the traveling public. So we support your efforts to find ways 
to ensure that the technology and the staffing levels are 
working in the ways that they need to work.
    I will point out that, in recent years, while staffing has 
increased, spending on staffing has increased, spending on 
technology has decreased. The technology that is so desperately 
needed in airports is not slated to get into the airports until 
the 2040's. We need to be more urgent about providing the best 
technology and as quickly as we can to TSA to ensure the safety 
and security of the traveling public.
    Mr. Crane. Were you aware of that statistic that I read you 
to that, under the Obama administration, OIG found that, in 96 
percent, the TSA officers using advanced image technology 
failed their tests when employees from the TSA tried to smuggle 
weapons, bombs, knives, guns, et cetera through their security 
checkpoints?
    Mr. Freeman. I was not aware of that specific statistic.
    Mr. Crane. What do you think about that, sir?
    Mr. Freeman. It sounds like every day we have work to do. 
We have work to do to get better. We have got to make sure we 
have got the right training; we have got the right technology; 
we have got the right people in place.
    Security, safety, is fundamental to people traveling. If 
people don't have that confidence, we will see a decline in 
travel. It is something that is of the upmost importance, and 
you certainly have our support.
    Mr. Crane. What about you, Mr. Gruen? Were you aware of 
that?
    Mr. Gruen. I was not aware of that statistic.
    Mr. Crane. What do you think about the fact that they are 
no longer reporting those numbers?
    Mr. Gruen. Again, oversight and requiring an agency to do 
their job is essential to good governance.
    Mr. Crane. OK.
    Mr. Freeman, during the 2024 Fourth Annual Future of Travel 
Mobility Conference, you mentioned the need to grasp the 
opportunity right in front us. We're talking about a decade of 
sporting events that will make the United States the most 
sought-after destination; modernizing our TSA and travel 
processing procedures are included.
    My question is--please answer briefly--how should TSA and 
Congress look at the use of AI for passenger processing to scan 
faces and directly cross-reference international travelers with 
criminal databases?
    Mr. Freeman. It was at that same conference that I 
interviewed former TSA Administrator Pekoske, who demonstrated 
tremendous leadership during his time within TSA and 
partnership with the private sector. I think, based on my 
experience with Administrator Pekoske, TSA was going down the 
right road in terms of what it looks at in AI. We see enormous 
potential. The simple truth is that AI can detect things that 
the human eye will miss. We see enormous potential in 
technology.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you. I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you. I now recognize the Ranking Member 
of the committee, the gentleman from Mississippi, Mr. Thompson.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you so much. I think it's interesting 
to respond that Trump had nominated Mr. Pekoske to serve as the 
TSA administrator, and he was allowed a second term, but in the 
midst of it, he was fired. I think that is unfortunate. He had 
done a good job. I think he deserved a better departure ramp 
than what he received. Because, from my vantage point, both 
Democrats and Republicans saw his vision for moving the agency 
forward.
    The other thing I'd like to say is that TSA and its workers 
and technology have managed a successful screening effort so 
that there's been nothing successful up to this point. That 
doesn't mean things hadn't gotten through; it just hasn't been 
successful. You can call it luck or whatever.
    But we also believe that technology is a force multiplier 
for security in all of this. There are only so many men and 
women we can put in airports and do what we do other than that 
technology can't do a better job.
    It's unfortunate that we've had several opportunities to 
invest in more technology. We've not had the kind of bipartisan 
support to finance that technology, but we have to do it. I 
look forward to doing that.
    One of the things we are talking about the different events 
here to this country and in the not-too-distant future.
    So, Mr. Freeman, my concern is, is you or your organization 
aware of what the administration is doing in its screening 
protocols that are creating this discomfort? Have you seen 
anything in writing on those protocols or anything?
    Mr. Freeman. We have had discussions with Customs and 
Border Protection to understand what policies are in place; 
what, if any, policies have changed? My understanding is that 
policies have not changed, but media coverage has certainly 
increased. We are aware of that. We are aware of the concern 
that travelers have. We are concerned about anything that would 
discourage travelers from wanting to visit the United States.
    So, just like with Canada, it is clear that we have work to 
do to get the message out that we seek these travelers. We want 
them bringing their spending here. We would be concerned about 
anything that would drive them to take their spending somewhere 
else.
    Mr. Thompson. So, with that lack of clarity at this point, 
it is having an adverse impact on people coming to the United 
States.
    Mr. Freeman. There is significant anecdotal evidence. I 
think we need to see the data. We are still waiting on the data 
from the Department of Commerce to better understand what is 
happening. But, again, we are on our toes. We see the concern 
that is out there. That leaves us obviously communicating to 
the administration and various agencies the need to provide 
travelers with the confidence that they desire.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you.
    President Kelley, can you just describe for the committee 
the benefits of having a Federalized work force?
    Mr. Kelley. There are so many really when you think about 
it. No. 1, they have a CBA, and CBA was negotiated by 
Administrator Pekoske, who was appointed by President Trump. He 
negotiated CBA that would bring about some stability inside of 
the work force. Not only that, you know, you are free of any 
form of striking because, if you had a private contractor, you 
know, they can--you and I can go on strike any day. The Federal 
system cannot strike. Do not talk about going on strike. You 
talk about morale. We've already shown that attrition rate went 
down about 50 percent, you know? We will continue to see 
attrition rates go down when you have a unionized Federal work 
force. You have flexibility.
    That's the thing that I like about the contract; it allows 
so much flexibility for the management to do what they need to 
do in the event of a crisis. So it is insurmountable the 
benefits that would be for this TSA.
    Mr. Thompson. Thank you very much.
    TSA, we created after 9/11 because the current protocol for 
screening virtually didn't exist before that. So it's the new 
kid on the block. We've been successful in not having, as I 
indicated, a successful person getting on a plane and causing 
that kind of crisis, but it's a work in progress. I mean, with 
technology still growing, we still have to continue to beat as 
best we can--our adversaries are constantly trying to figure 
out how they can beat the system. In reality, it's technology 
that's going to catch them. So I look forward to continuing 
this discussion.
    I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you, we're going to go through a second 
round of questioning. I yield myself 5 minutes for questioning.
    Mr. Freeman, you talked about the visa process and how we 
can accelerate that. Could you be a little more specific 
exactly what you're talking about in order to accelerate the 
visa process, take it down from 300 days to something a little 
bit more reasonable?
    Mr. Freeman. Yes, there are multiple consuls around the 
world right now. Colombia is the best example of where wait 
times exceed 500 days to get an interview for a visa. We have 
had similar wait times in India. In years past, we had wait 
times like that in Brazil, where they have been successful 
recently in bringing those wait times down. I think there are 
several elements to this: No. 1, we simply have to establish a 
goal as a country. How well do we want to process visas 
regardless of what the demand may be? Once we establish that 
goal, what's the technique for getting there?
    Our proposal is to move things out of Foreign Service 
officers, to create a new national vetting service where people 
apply for that job; they sign up for that job. That's what they 
want to do. Their job is to process visas. Those employees are 
paid for by the fees that travelers pay when they apply for 
visas. There is no additional cost to U.S. taxpayers. The key, 
though, is having individuals who actually desire to be in this 
role; it is what they signed up for. You don't get that today. 
You don't get that because you've got--again, people on the 
lowest rung of the totem pole. This is a job they don't want to 
do. In many parts around the world, they are only doing one 
shift a day. They work from, say, 9 to 3, and the consulate 
closes. We have also got to get more creative in those 
situations. There are countries where we only have 4 or 5 
consulates for countries as big as the United States. How do we 
get more creative in terms of how we then process those visas? 
Where does video conferencing come in? We have all learned the 
power and the limitations of video conferencing. How can that 
play a role when it comes to processing visas?
    Finally, when we look at the validity period of visas, 
visas that are good for 6 months or 1 year, is it possible to 
make those visas good for 2 years? When we have travelers who 
have come here, abided by our rules, left on time, can we 
allow, when their visa expires, can we allow rapid 
recertification of that visa?
    There are a number of things that we could follow through 
if we simply have the will to do it. We establish a goal, and I 
think this is a bipartisan challenge we've confronted. We just 
simply haven't had that zeal within the State Department or the 
leadership on Capitol Hill or in the White House to demand that 
from the State Department.
    Mr. Gimenez. If we did that, would you see an increase in 
travel?
    Mr. Freeman. Visas, from the 45 percent of our travelers 
who are required to get a visa, visa access is a bigger concern 
than the cost of travel. I think that tells us everything we 
need to know. It is not the cost of coming to the United 
States; it is the obstacle to getting the visa that is the 
biggest deterrent.
    Mr. Gimenez. Fair enough. Now, in terms of technology--and 
Representative Crane, you know, brought up a very good 
statistic. It seems to me that technology has improved in the 
last 10 years. It has to, right, especially with the advent of 
artificial intelligence. Is there technology now that will 
self-identify threats and give cues to the TSA individual on 
the screen and say, ``Hey, you need to look at this, this, this 
and that,'' that will help reduce that 96 percent? Is that 
technology available now?
    Mr. Freeman. There is significant technology available now 
that we're not using. Now, when you look at elements of the TSA 
screening process, there is the identify verification; there is 
the person screening; there is the baggage screening. I think 
we've done very well on the identity verification as we have 
moved to biometrics. I think we have a lot of work to do when 
it comes to the baggage and the on-person screening of 
individuals; that's where we have the greatest room for growth.
    Mr. Gimenez. Do you have an estimate of how much that would 
cost?
    Mr. Freeman. I believe we have looked at a figure in the 
neighborhood of--I'm going to use the wrong figure, so I don't 
want to mention it. We do have that and are happy to give it to 
the committee.
    Mr. Gimenez. OK. So, if we stopped diverting the money, how 
fast could we implement these new technologies--instead of 
2040, which I think is a little bit too far out, 20 years from 
now, OK? By then, we'll have something else, OK? So we need to 
get the technology right. It has to be modular so that, as new 
technologies come and it gets more and more--gets better, that 
we need to be able to put that in as quickly as we can, not 
wait 20 years for that technology to be put in so that, 20 
years hence, there's something else, OK? So how much do you 
think we are going to need?
    Mr. Freeman. We believe it's reasonable that all of these 
reforms could take place within the next 5 years. This is not 
something we need to look at decades out. Within the next 5 
years, we can give every American traveler the confidence that 
they can keep their water in their bottle, their belt on their 
pants, their laptop in their bags.
    Mr. Gimenez. Fair enough.
    I yield back, and I recognize the gentlelady from New 
Jersey.
    Mrs. McIver. Thank you, Chairman. I just have one follow-up 
question, and it's for Mr. Freeman.
    You, during your opening statement, even just now, you 
talked about the United States and how, you know, if we want to 
be a global leader in travel, we need to do, you know, X, Y, 
and Z.
    Do you currently consider the United States at the top of 
the list as a leader in global travel?
    Mr. Freeman. The United States is the world's most desired 
nation to visit. Around the world, this is where travelers want 
to come.
    We commissioned a report through Euromonitor about 18 
months ago to rank countries based on their travel 
facilitation, based on their infrastructure, based on their 
national leadership. The United States finished 17th out of 18 
countries. Only China finished behind the United States.
    You are seeing greater coordination, greater spending, 
greater zeal in countries like Saudi and other parts of the 
world that recognize just how important travel is to building 
their economy, and they also recognize that travel doesn't 
happen by accident. It takes a heck of a lot of coordination. 
It takes a heck of a lot of planning to make these things 
happen.
    Every one of us in this room today are travelers. We all 
know the hassles with the process. We all know the 
inefficiencies. We all go through this and look at various 
points and say, ``There's got to be a better way to do this.'' 
The answer is there is. Do we have any desire to work together 
to implement those better ways because what we are dealing with 
today, whether at TSA, at Customs, is not sustainable, and it's 
not something we should be tolerating.
    Mrs. McIver. When was this report done?
    Mr. Freeman. This report was done in--came out early 2024. 
We're happy to get you a copy of that.
    Mrs. McIver. Yes. I would love a copy of that.
    I just want to thank each of the witnesses for your 
testimony today and for coming to share with us. I know that 
this committee hearing is supposed to be about what we are--you 
know, examining ourselves on a global level to prepare for 
these big events, but there's just lots going on right now that 
I think we really need to address before we can talk about like 
being really prepared, being really, really prepared for all of 
the big events that we have coming up.
    So thank you so much for all of the information that you 
provided today.
    With that, I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Gimenez. I want to thank the Ranking Member.
    Now I recognize the gentlelady from South Carolina, Mrs. 
Biggs.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
    As the United States gears up to welcome the world for the 
2026 FIFA World Cup, and the 2028 Olympic Games, our national 
travel infrastructure stands at a crucial juncture demanding 
comprehensive readiness.
    The influx of international visitors for these events will 
place unprecedented demands on our transportation networks and 
border security.
    The recent Executive Order signed by President Trump 
creating the World Cup task force signifies a critical 
recognition of the imperative for seamless inner-agency 
collaboration.
    This dedicated task force will be instrumental in 
strategically preparing our ports of entry, modernizing airport 
facilities and operations, and fortifying supporting systems, 
such as Customs and Border Protection, security protocols, and 
transportation logistics.
    So, to Mr. Freeman, how should the World Cup task force 
prioritize its efforts to address operational challenges at our 
airports and our ports of entry?
    Mr. Freeman. Thank you for the question, Congresswoman. I 
think it's critical, as the World Cup task force gets up and 
running, that, first, we acknowledge we're already behind the 8 
ball. The World Cup starts in about 15 months. Other countries 
are already planning, you know, for the 2029 World Cup--I'm 
sorry. The 2030 World Cup. That planning is already ahead of 
where we are. So we've got to acknowledge we're already behind 
the 8 ball.
    I have all the faith in the world in the local destinations 
that are hosting the World Cup. They have been coordinating. 
They're going to do great--a great job.
    The question really becomes in terms of getting people to 
the games, moving about the United States, and moving into the 
United States. I think, for the domestic traveler, we're going 
to see concerns when it comes to moving people through the 
airports. The demand that we're going to see is basically a 
Thanksgiving every day for about the 45 days of the World Cup. 
We all know what it's like traveling on the Wednesday before 
Thanksgiving; that's what we can expect. It begs the question, 
what are the things we can do to be more efficient during that 
period? This task force is critical about aligning the 
Department of Homeland Security, the Department of 
Transportation, and other relevant agencies to ensure we can 
meet that demand.
    For the foreign travelers coming in, the truth is we're 
already too late for some of them. I mentioned the wait times 
for Colombians to get a visa. If they don't have their visa now 
for the World Cup in 2026, their window is closed. That's shame 
on us. Right. That's opportunity missed for the United States.
    Then we've got to identify, what are the other markets 
where that window is already closing, and how do we process 
visas quickly in those markets so we can help those travelers 
get here?
    When we know they're coming, Customs will be the final area 
where this task force has to work closely with DHS, with other 
elements of the Government to ensure that we don't have 2-, 3-, 
4-hour wait times to get through Miami, to get through LAX, to 
get through JFK. That is a tremendous concern of ours.
    There is nothing more predictable than when a plane is 
going to land, how many people are on it, and who those people 
are. So there's no excuse to not be staffed appropriately to 
move these travelers through, and that's where the task force 
needs to be focused.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you so much for your insight.
    My second question, Mr. Gruen, with major international 
events acting as high-profile targets for bad actors, how do 
you think the task force should integrate threat intelligence, 
interagency coordination, and emerging technologies, like 
counter-UAS and AI-enabled surveillance into the strategic 
planning?
    Mr. Gruen. Thank you, Congresswoman.
    Your second point, technology needs to be procured and 
deployed now. So we recommend 12 months out from events to 
really get the technology on the ground, get the personnel 
trained, and run through different scenarios to mitigate 
threats.
    So we believe the task force needs to do that aspect. Part 
of that is also going to be authorities, to enable local and 
State law enforcement to have the authorities to mitigate large 
threats, such as drones, when they're on the ground.
    So, again, prioritizing that--we are behind the power curve 
on this. We need the task force to prioritize the procurement 
and deployment of technologies and the training of personnel so 
that we have adequate protection.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you so much.
    My time has expired. So I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you.
    I now recognize the gentleman from Arizona, Mr. Crane, for 
his second round of questioning.
    Mr. Crane. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Gruen, I find your testimony and experience very 
interesting and important to this panel today. You're a former 
Navy SEAL; is that correct?
    Mr. Gruen. Yes, Congressman.
    Mr. Crane. So you have a lot of background in 
unconventional warfare?
    Mr. Gruen. I do.
    Mr. Crane. Now you're currently working in the counter-
drone space?
    Mr. Gruen. Correct.
    Mr. Crane. Have you spent any time overseas in Ukraine?
    Mr. Gruen. Yes.
    Mr. Crane. Do you feel that Americans and our agencies 
understand the gravity of what's happening overseas and how 
it's transforming modern warfare?
    Mr. Gruen. Not at a scale that's necessary. There certainly 
are pockets of individuals who are aware of the threat and are 
working diligently to address it. But, as a whole Nation, 
absolutely not.
    Mr. Crane. Do you believe that the United States is 
prepared to protect its citizens and infrastructure from drone 
attacks in some of these major events that we're talking about 
coming up in the United States?
    Mr. Gruen. Not currently.
    Mr. Crane. Give us an idea of what that could look like, 
sir.
    Mr. Gruen. There's--the drone threat is so wide-ranging 
that it is hard to sometimes grasp because you have kind-of the 
obvious situation of a stadium where you may have DJI-type 
drones come into the stadium, either drop powders or be 
explosive in themselves, and do actual physical damage to the 
attendees.
    You also have a lot of other types of operational 
scenarios. Like airports, with all these folks that are trying 
to arrive, if you have a drone that goes and parks itself on a 
runway, the entire operation is going to shut down. It doesn't 
even have to explode; it can just sit there. You have already 
disrupted air travel to a level that we have not seen, or we're 
not prepared for.
    Mr. Crane. Right. It's a lot easier to get some type of 
explosive into a stadium when a drone doesn't have to go 
through some magnetometer; is that correct?
    Mr. Gruen. Absolutely.
    Mr. Crane. It's really not that expensive, either, for our 
enemies to use drone warfare to attack us, is it?
    Mr. Gruen. Absolutely not.
    Mr. Crane. Sir, you said, I believe, in your testimony, 
that your company has been tasked to do counter-drone 
operations around key U.S. sites. Can you expound on that a 
little bit?
    Mr. Gruen. Yes. We are working with the Department of 
Defense to do some initial base deployments, so both OCONUS and 
CONUS.
    In particular, in response to the New York and New Jersey 
drone threats at the end of last year, we're at Picatinny 
Arsenal now with an Army program of record, but we've also 
deployed to Stewart Air National Guard Base with a coalition of 
industry partners under NORTHCOM and all to, you know, yield 
the latest capabilities to really get both at the detection, 
identification aspect, and then have on-hand mitigation 
capability, when authorized.
    Mr. Crane. When you guys are doing these operations, are we 
talking about lone-wolf bad actors? Are we talking about 
nation-states that you guys are trying to prevent from flying 
over these sites?
    Mr. Gruen. The scary part about this, Congressman, is we 
don't have good fidelity on that information. We know that 
there are drones of various sizes, so ones that cannot be 
easily procured off of an Amazon or an Alibaba. You have larger 
drones, and you have drones, multiple drones at a time. So the 
fact that we don't know who is operating these drones is the 
real problem.
    Mr. Crane. Are drones being used right now within the 
United States to conduct espionage?
    Mr. Gruen. Absolutely.
    Mr. Crane. Absolutely. Can you expound on that any more?
    Mr. Gruen. There are briefings from the Government 
themselves at different classification levels, but we know that 
there are other nation-states or proxies that are operating 
near our borders and even, particularly in the homeland, 
different sites.
    Mr. Crane. Most people probably aren't aware that U.S. 
Capitol Police are currently using traffic regulation, section 
16.2.90, model rockets and boats, to mitigate drone threats on 
Capitol Grounds. Congress must do its part to properly equip 
Capitol Police for that reason.
    On National Police Week, I plan to introduce the U.S. 
Capitol Police Empowerment Act of 2025 to authorize the U.S. 
Capitol Police to mitigate drone threats on the Capitol 
complex. The bill was drafted with input from the House Admin, 
Judiciary, Transportation and Infrastructure, and Homeland 
Security Committees. I'm hoping that everybody will support 
this bill, as it should be bipartisan.
    I do have a video that I would like to play of some of the 
drone capabilities from your company, Mr. Gruen.
    [Video shown.]
    Mr. Crane. Now, Mr. Gruen, are we watching in real time 
your company's drones being able to shoot out nets and capture 
enemy drones?
    Mr. Gruen. Correct, Congressman.
    Mr. Crane. Why is that so important, sir?
    Mr. Gruen. We're called the low-collateral effect 
interceptor inside Government agencies because the way--by 
catching with a net, we either keep it under a tether and drop 
it somewhere that's been rendered safe where law enforcement 
can look at the drone, get forensics, etc. So it's the 
collateral damage aspect.
    You're also not infringing on any publicly identifiable 
information. It's not hacking a signal. It's not getting 
personnel--personal information off of anything. So the 
combination of that, the lack of PII and the low collateral, is 
what makes it so impactful.
    Mr. Crane. Mr. Chairman, I know my time has expired, but I 
would like to enter into the record 5 separate articles.
    Mr. Gimenez. Without objection, so ordered.
    Mr. Crane. I've got, No. 1, U.S. Bureau of Transportation 
Statistics: Prohibited Items Intercepted at Airport Screening 
Checkpoints; No. 2, Defense Daily, ``TSA's Own Covert Testing 
Showed Failures, DHS IG Says''; No. 3, ABC News, ``TSA fails 
most tests in latest undercover operation at U.S. airports''; 
No. 4, ``No Drone Zone,'' United States Capitol Police; and No. 
5, a copy of my bill, the U.S. CP Empowerment Act of 2025.
    Mr. Gimenez. So ordered.
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         tsa's own covert testing showed failures, dhs ig says
defensedaily.com/tsas-own-covert-testing-showed-failures-dhs-ig-says/
        congress/
By Calvin Biesecker, October 8, 2015
    Spectacular failure rates of airport checkpoint security equipment 
during covert testing by Homeland Security auditors was not a surprise 
to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), which operates the 
screening equipment, because the agency's own internal testing showed 
similar results, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Inspector 
General (IG) said on Thursday.
    ``The recent round of covert testing was not a surprise to us and 
it was not a surprise to TSA,'' John Roth told the House Homeland 
Security Subcommittee on Transportation Security. ``We had been doing 
covert testing over the years with consistently disappointing results . 
. . And what we found after the covert testing was even a little more 
upsetting which was TSA does their own covert testing and those results 
were very similar to our results.''
    The covert testing referred to by Roth was done by his office and 
showed that in 96 percent of instances Transportation Security Officers 
using Advanced Imaging Technology (AIT) at eight airports failed to 
detect hidden threat items. The report is classified but this summer 
the findings were leaked to some media outlets.
    The AIT systems in question are supplied by L-3 Communications 
[LLL] and are used to screen individuals for metallic and non-metallic 
threat items that may be hidden beneath their clothing.
    Peter Neffenger, the TSA administrator, told the panel that the AIT 
systems work as designed when used properly.
    Roth said that TSA never ``elevated the issue'' of its own covert 
test results so that no one else in DHS knew of the problems.
    ``One of the things we discovered after this round of testing and 
the very vigorous response that the department gave with regard to our 
briefing on the covert testing is that no one in DHS had ever known of 
this issue,'' Roth said.
    This was a ``surprise'' to senior DHS leadership, including the 
secretary and deputy secretary, Roth said.
    In a separate hearing last week and again on Thursday to examine 
follow-up by DHS and TSA to the IG's report, Roth said that TSA has 
consistently rejected negative reports coming from the IG's office over 
the years.
    ``One of the conclusions or themes that I can draw from this is 
that there is a mismatch between risk and meeting the risk,'' Roth said 
of TSA. ``And the sort of working theory that we have is that either 
TSA doesn't understand the nature of the risk or they do understand the 
nature of the risk and worse from that, they don't address the risk in 
any appropriate way.''
    Rep. John Katko (R-N.Y.), Chairman of the subcommittee, said at the 
outset of the hearing that despite being only 14 years old, TSA has 
``become bureaucratized.'' He added that ``Many times TSA has not 
responded'' to negative audit reports ``and that leads me to the 
conclusion that TSA, while a young agency has become a very 
bureaucratized agency already; too slow to respond and not nimble 
enough to respond.''
    Roth said he's hopeful that under Neffenger's leadership that TSA 
will make the necessary cultural changes to own up to its deficiencies.
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   tsa fails most tests in latest undercover operation at us airports
abcnews.go.com/US/tsa-fails-tests-latest-undercover-operation-us-
        airports/story
            Source said the results were an improvement from 2 years 
                    ago.
By ABC News, November 9, 2017, 1:10 AM
    In recent undercover tests of multiple airport security checkpoints 
by the Department of Homeland Security, inspectors said screeners, 
their equipment or their procedures failed more than half the time, 
according to a source familiar with the classified report.
    When ABC News asked the source if the failure rate was 80 percent, 
the response was, ``You are in the ballpark.''
    In a public hearing after a private classified briefing to the 
House Committee on Homeland Security, Members of Congress called the 
failures by the Transportation Security Administration disturbing.
    Rep. Mike Rogers went as far as to tell TSA Administrator David 
Pekoske, ``This agency that you run is broken badly, and it needs your 
attention.''
    Pekoske was confirmed by the Senate this summer.
    Inspectors ``identified vulnerabilities with TSA's screener 
performance, screening equipment and associated procedures,'' according 
to a statement from the Department of Homeland Security.
    The statement added that the findings remain classified but that 
eight recommendations have been made to the TSA to improve checkpoint 
security. It is not clear what those recommendations are.
    The news of the failure comes 2 years after ABC News reported that 
secret teams from the DHS found that the TSA failed 95 percent of the 
time to stop inspectors from smuggling weapons or explosive materials 
through screening.
    That report led to major changes ordered at the TSA by then-
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson. The agency opened a training 
academy for transportation security officers and changed procedures to 
reduce long lines.
    Although lawmakers described the TSA's performance in this round of 
testing as poor, it was an improvement from 2 years ago, according to 
the source familiar with the report.
    In the public hearing today on Capitol Hill, members pushed for the 
full implementation of a program using new scanning equipment that 
creates a 3-D image of bags, giving screeners better ability to spot 
possibly dangerous items.
Are biometric scans the checkpoint of the future?
    The equipment is being tested in TSA checkpoints in at least two 
airports, but software and installation challenges have slowed wider 
implementation.
    Rep. Bill Keating suggested that money is being diverted from the 
agency to build President Trump's promised border wall.
    ``We have the technology and resources to do it, but we're not 
doing it because . . . we're paying for a wall,'' Keating said.
    He also noted that Viper teams, specially trained Homeland Security 
units that use canines to secure transportation facilities, are being 
cut from 31 to 8.
    It is not clear when the report will be released publicly.
    The TSA said in a statement that it ``concurs with the DHS OIG 
[Office of Inspector General] findings and is committed to aggressively 
implementing the recommendations.''
    ``We take the OIG's findings very seriously and are implementing 
measures that will improve screening effectiveness at checkpoints,'' 
Pekoske said. ``We are focused on staying ahead of a dynamic threat to 
aviation with continued investment in the workforce, enhanced 
procedures, and new technologies.''
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    Mr. Gimenez. The gentleman's time has expired.
    I now recognize the gentlewoman from South Carolina for her 
second round of questioning.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    So TSA has made progress in deploying biometric screening, 
digital IDs, and automated security lanes, but outdated systems 
and work force shortages still slow down those checkpoints.
    Republicans have long advocated for smart investments in 
innovative technologies that can improve the performance and 
reduce reliance on biological Federal work forces.
    So, Mr. Freeman, given TSA's growing use of AI-driven 
threat detection and facial recognition, how far are we from 
replacing outdated manual processes at checkpoints with fully 
automated systems?
    Mr. Freeman. Thank you, Congresswoman.
    I think the first thing to acknowledge is what TSA has done 
well is give travelers around the country, no matter what 
airport they're at, a sense of not just security but also a 
sense of consistency.
    The biggest thing that frustrates travelers is, when you go 
through one airport, you have a different experience when you 
go through another airport. TSA has ensured that we have that 
degree of consistency, and we applaud them for it.
    Some of that consistency includes exactly what you're 
talking about. We're already moving toward more of that 
automated system. We see some of that with the identity 
verification that's taking place. We see that with digital ID 
that happens and is working with the airlines, with Delta, 
United, with American.
    If you fly through Newark and Atlanta, some of these other 
major hubs, Detroit, you can go through the entire process just 
based on your facial biometrics. It's a wonderful experience. 
It's incredibly efficient. Travelers are moving through in 7 
seconds or less using that technology.
    So I think we're already there. The question is, how 
quickly can we continue to build on this? How do we take it 
beyond the identity verification and use it for baggage 
screening, use it for individual screening? That's where 
there's so much more opportunity.
    I think there's opportunities for the private sector to 
work more closely with TSA to help realize some of these 
opportunities. You know, there's so much debate about privatize 
TSA, not privatize TSA.
    What there is, is a great opportunity for TSA, which has 
done some very good things, to work more closely with the 
private sector and really build a partnership here that can 
give the travelers the experience they desire.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you. Just following up with that, are 
there successful models abroad that the United States should 
consider adapting to our aviation environment?
    Mr. Freeman. There are absolutely lessons learned in the 
United Kingdom and other parts of the world. In fact, the 
report that we put out earlier this year referenced some of 
those lessons learned in foreign markets.
    I don't think there's one market that is the panacea for 
what we need to do, but there's a combination of lessons 
learned throughout Europe and in other parts of the world. 
We're happy to bring those forward. We document several of 
those in our proposal, and I think we just--sometimes the 
United States acts as if we're the first ones to confront these 
issues, as if we can't learn from some of our partners around 
the world.
    There's no need to reinvent the wheel here. There's some 
very good things that are done. Europe has made much further 
strides in terms of allowing people to bring liquids back onto 
planes, to keep some of their clothes on, their shoes and 
belts. We can learn from that, and we're hopeful that new TSA 
leadership will be willing to do that.
    Mrs. Biggs. Thank you so much for your testimony.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Gimenez. Thank you to the gentlewoman from South 
Carolina.
    I want to thank the witnesses for their valuable testimony, 
also the Members for their questions.
    The Members of the subcommittee may have additional 
questions for the witnesses, and we would ask the witnesses to 
respond to these in writing.
    Pursuant to committee rule VII(E), the hearing record will 
be held open for 10 days.
    Without objection, this subcommittee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:28 a.m., the subcommittee was adjourned.]



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