[House Hearing, 119 Congress]
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                  H.R. 513, H.R. 931, H.R. 2250, H.R. 
                     2556, H.R. 3168, AND H.R. 3176
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                          LEGISLATIVE HEARING

                               BEFORE THE

                       SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
                           MINERAL RESOURCES

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                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                         Tuesday, May 20, 2025

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                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES

                     BRUCE WESTERMAN, AR, Chairman
                  ROBERT J. WITTMAN, VA, Vice Chairman
                   JARED HUFFMAN, CA, Ranking Member

Robert J. Wittman, VA,
Tom McClintock, CA			Joe Neguse, CO
Paul A. Gosar, AZ			Teresa Leger Fernandez, NM
Aumua Amata C. Radewagen, AS		Melanie Stansbury, NM
Doug LaMalfa, CA			Val Hoyle, OR
Daniel Webster, FL			Seth Magaziner, RI
Russ Fulcher, ID			Jared Golden, ME
Pete Stauber, MN			Dave Min, CA
Tom Tiffany, WI				Maxine Dexter, OR
Lauren Boebert, CO			Pablo Jose Hernandez, PR
Cliff Bentz, OR				Emily Randall, WA
Jen Kiggans, VA				Yassamin Ansari, AZ
Wesley P. Hunt, TX			Sarah Elfreth, MD
Mike Collins, GA			Adam Gray, CA
Harriet M. Hageman, WY			Luz Rivas, CA
Mark Amodei, NV				Nydia Velazquez, NY
Tim Walberg, MI				Debbie Dingell, MI
Mike Ezell, MS				Darren Soto, FL
Celest Maloy, Utah			Julia Brownley, CA
Addison McDowell, NC			Susie Lee, NV
Jeff Crank, CO
Nick Begich, AK
Jeff Hurd, CO
Mike Kennedy, UT

 
                Vivian Moeglein, Staff Director
                  William David, Chief Counsel
               Ana Unruh Cohen, Democratic Staff Director
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              SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND MINERAL RESOURCES

                       PETE STAUBER, MN, Chairman
                      NICK BEGICH, AK, Vice Chair
                  YASSAMIN ANSARI, AZ, Ranking Member

Robert J. Wittman, VA                Seth Magaziner, RI
Paul Gosar, AZ                       Dave Min, CA
Daniel Webster, FL                   Sarah Elfreth, MD
Russ Fulcher, ID                     Luz Rivas, CA
Tom Tiffany, WI                      Debbie Dingell, MI
Jen Kiggans, VA                      Jared Huffman, CA
Wesley P. Hunt, TX                   Jared Golden, ME
Mike Collins, GA                     Nydia M. Velazquez, NY
Harriet M. Hageman, WY               Vacancy
Mike Ezell, MS                       Vacancy
Jeff Crank, CO                       Vacancy
Nick Begich, AK
Jeff Hurd, CO
Bruce Westerman, AR, ex officio

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Hearing Memo.....................................................     v
Hearing held on Tuesday, May 20, 2025............................     1

Statement of Members:

    Stauber, Hon. Pete, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Minnesota.........................................     2
    Ansari, Hon. Yassamin, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Arizona...........................................     3
    Westerman, Hon. Bruce, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Arkansas..........................................    11

    Panel I:

    Hunt, Hon. Wesley, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Texas.............................................     5
    Begich III, Hon. Nick, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Alaska............................................     6
    DelBene, Hon. Suzan, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Washington........................................     7
    Valadao, Hon. David, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of California........................................     8
    Higgins, Hon. Clay, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Louisiana.........................................     9
    Downing, Hon. Troy, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Montana...........................................    12

Statement of Witnesses:

    Panel II:

    Cruickshank, Walter, Deputy Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy 
      Management, U.S. Department of the Interior, Washington, 
      D.C........................................................    14
        Prepared statement of....................................    16
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    17

    Panel III:

    Phipps, Parker, President and CEO, Signal Peak Energy, 
      Roundup, Montana...........................................    32
        Prepared statement of....................................    34
        Supplemental document submitted for the record...........    38
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    38
    West, Mike, Director and State Seismologist, Alaska 
      Earthquake Center, Fairbanks, Alaska.......................    41
        Prepared statement of....................................    45
    Helton, Doug, Former Regional Operations Supervisor, 
      Emergency Response Division (Retired), National Oceanic and 
      Atmospheric Administration, Seattle, Washington............    48
        Prepared statement of....................................    50
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    52
    Kief, Cory, Director of Business Development, Crosby Tugs, 
      LLC, Galliano, Louisiana...................................    54
        Prepared statement of....................................    56

Additional Materials Submitted for the Record:

    Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement, U.S. 
      Department of the Interior, Statement for the Record on 
      H.R. 931...................................................    79

    U.S. Geological Survey, U.S. Department of the Interior, 
      Statement for the Record on H.R. 2250, H.R. 3168, and H.R. 
      3176.......................................................    80

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Stauber

        Senate, Letter...........................................    82

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Ansari

        CORE Act, NGO, Letter....................................    70
        Business Alliance, Letter................................    71
        Defense Support Initiatives Committee, Letter............    72
        Congress of the U.S., Letter.............................    73
        Global/National/Regional Organizations, Letter...........    74
        U.S. Senate, Letter......................................    75
        A Faked Kidnapping and Cocaine: A Montana Mine's Descent 
          Into Chaos, New York Times, Article....................    76
        Statement Roundup, Report................................    77

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Elfreth

        DOD Mission Compatibility Planning Assessment: BOEM 2017-
          2022, Report...........................................    24
        Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, Report................    26

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Begich

        Letter to the House of Natural Resources.................    67

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Higgins

        Americans for Prosperity, Letter.........................    10

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To:        House Committee on Natural Resources Republican Members

From:     Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee Staff, Rob 
        MacGregor--([email protected]), Will King--
        ([email protected].
        gov), and Lonnie Smith--(Lonnie.Smith@ mail.house.gov) x5-9297

Date:     Monday, May 19, 2025

Subject:   Legislative Hearing on 6 bills
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    The Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources will hold a 
legislative hearing on H.R. 513 (Rep. Higgins), ``Offshore Lands 
Authorities Act of 2025''; H.R. 931 (Rep. Downing), To allow certain 
Federal minerals to be mined consistent with the Bull Mountains Mining 
Plan Modification, and for other purposes; H.R. 2250 (Rep. DelBene), 
``National LandPreparedness Act Reauthorization Act of 2025''; H.R. 
2556 (Rep. Hunt) ``Comprehensive Offshore Resource Enhancement Act of 
2025'' or the ``CORE Act of 2025''; H.R. 3168 (Rep. Valadao), 
``National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program Reauthorization Act of 
2025''; and H.R. 3176 (Rep. Begich), To amend the John D. Dingell, Jr. 
Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act to reauthorize the 
National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System, on Tuesday, May 
20, 2025, at 2 p.m. in 1324 Longworth House Office Building.
    Member offices are requested to notify Jacob Greenberg 
([email protected]) by 4:30 p.m. on May 19, 2025, if their 
Member intends to participate in the hearing.
I. KEY MESSAGES
     H.R. 513 will nullify previous offshore energy withdrawals 
            and limit the duration and size of future offshore energy 
            withdrawals to bolster U.S. energy dominance, increase GDP, 
            reduce trade deficits, and help balance the federal budget.

     The Bureau of Ocean Energy Management's (BOEM) resource 
            assessment process is outdated and susceptible to political 
            interference. H.R. 2556 will modernize these assessments 
            and ensure more accurate data collection for offshore oil 
            and gas production, enhancing U.S. energy security and 
            economic stability and reducing reliance on imports.

     The Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement 
            (OSMRE) under the Biden administration purposefully delayed 
            the permitting process for the Bull Mountains Mine in 
            Montana for over two years. H.R. 931 will right this wrong 
            and allow for responsible coal production in Montana, 
            reducing energy costs for American families and providing 
            much-needed revenue to states and the federal government.

     Natural Hazards such as lands, earthquakes, and volcanoes 
            cost the government upwards of $20 billion per 
            year.1 H.R. 2250, H.R. 3168, and H.R. 3176 
            reauthorize the National Landslide Hazards Reduction 
            Program, the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, 
            and the National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring 
            System, which aim to reduce the cost incurred by the 
            government and save lives by providing early warnings to 
            communities.
II. WITNESSES

Panel I (Members of Congress):
     To Be Announced
Panel II (Administration):
     Dr. Walter Cruickshank, Deputy Director, Bureau of Ocean 
            Energy Management, U.S. Department of the Interior, 
            Washington, DC [H.R. 513 & H.R. 2556]
Panel III:
     Mr. Cory Kief, Director of Business Development, Crosby 
            Tugs, LLC, Galliano, LA [H.R. 513 & H.R. 2556]

     Mr. Parker Phipps, CEO, Signal Peak Energy, Roundup, MT 
            [H.R. 931]

     Dr. Mike West, Director and State Seismologist, Alaska 
            Earthquake Center, Fairbanks, AK [H.R. 2250, H.R. 3168, 
            H.R. 3176]

     Mr. Doug Helton, former Regional Operations Supervisor, 
            Emergency Response Division, National Oceanic and 
            Atmospheric Administration, Seattle, WA [H.R. 513 & H.R. 
            2556] (Minority Witness)

III. BACKGROUND
H.R. 513 (Rep. Higgins), ``Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025''
    The Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025 seeks to nullify 
specific Presidential withdrawals of offshore lands made under Section 
12(a) of the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act (OCSLA).2 The 
bill would also amend OCSLA to limit future Presidential withdrawals. 
By restoring access to these lands for oil and gas leasing, the bill 
aims to enhance energy security, support economic growth, and ensure 
Congressional oversight of offshore resource management.
    On January 6, 2025, in the waning days of the last administration, 
President Biden recklessly issued a Presidential Memoranda withdrawing 
approximately 625 million acres of Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) lands 
in the Gulf of America and the Atlantic, Pacific, and Alaska planning 
areas from oil and gas leasing, citing environmental and climate 
concerns.3 On January 20, 2025, President Trump revoked 
these withdrawals, restoring leasing eligibility.4
    H.R. 513, introduced by Rep. Higgins on January 16, 2025, not only 
nullifies the most egregious existing OCS withdrawals but also limits 
future withdrawals to 150,000 acres per action, 500,000 acres 
cumulatively without Congressional approval, and ensures that each 
withdrawal only lasts 20 years in duration. The bill also mandates 
geological, economic, and security assessments before promulgating a 
withdrawal, requires withdrawals to be submitted for Congressional 
review with an expedited disapproval process, and ensures alignment 
with approved Five-Year Oil and Gas Leasing Programs, enhancing energy 
security and oversight.
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H.R. 931 (Rep. Downing), To allow certain Federal minerals to be 
        mined consistent with the Bull Mountains Mining Plan 
        Modification.
    Signal Peak Energy (SPE) currently operates the only underground 
coal mine in Montana: the Bull Mountain Mine.5 Despite 
reserves that can last over 50 years,6 the mine will soon 
run out of recoverable reserves as SPE cannot access federal coal 
tracts that run in a checkerboard pattern across the area.7 
SPE has been seeking OSMRE's approval to mine 1,835 acres of federal 
coal since 2013. OSMRE previously approved a mining plan modification 
along with an environmental assessment in 2015 and 2018 that would 
allow access to this acreage but both efforts were vacated by the U.S. 
District Court for the District of Montana in 2017 8 and 
2023, respectively.9 Specifically in the 2023 decision, 
Judge Donald W. Molloy vacated the mine modification and remanded the 
matter to the Department of the Interior to prepare an environmental 
impact statement (EIS).10 Despite receiving this decision in 
February of 2023, OSMRE waited six months before issuing a notice of 
intent to prepare the required EIS.11 In accordance with the 
National Environmental Policy Act deadlines, OSMRE is required to 
complete the EIS two years after the date the agency determines that an 
EIS is necessary,12 which in this case was February 2025. 
Not shockingly, the OSMRE under the Biden administration dragged its 
feet and missed this deadline.
    H.R. 931 would remedy this issue by requiring the Secretary of the 
Interior to approve the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification, 
allowing the mine and its 300 workers to continue 
operations.13 Under the bill, all Federal coal reserves 
leased under Federal Coal Lease MTM 97988 would be permitted to be 
mined by the Secretary of the Interior. This bill is supported by the 
entire Montana delegation in the House and the Senate and mirrors a 
companion bill introduced by Senator Daines, S. 362. This mine plays a 
crucial role in the economy of Musselshell County by generating over 
$90 million annually in state, local, and federal taxes.14 
At a time when we need more energy, not less, this mine and its vast 
reserves must be authorized to continue operations.
H.R. 2250 (Rep. DelBene), ``National Landslide Preparedness Act 
        Reauthorization Act of 2025''
    Landslides are a major geologic hazard in every state, causing 
between $1 and $2 billion in damages and more than 25 casualties 
annually.15 The United States Geological Survey (USGS) 
established the Landslide Hazards Program (LHP) in the 1970s to 
research the Earth's geologic structure and draw scientific conclusions 
about landslides and ground failures.16 The states utilize 
this research to prepare for and properly respond to these disasters.
    The National Landslides Preparedness Act (NLPA) was passed in the 
House of Representatives in the 116th Congress and was signed into law 
on January 5, 2021.17 The NLPA established the National 
Landslide Hazards Reduction Program (NLHRP) and the 3D Elevation 
Program (3DEP), authorizing both programs from 2021 to 2024. The 
programs allow USGS to gather data to enable states and communities to 
reduce loss in the event of a landslide. The Director of the USGS leads 
implementation of the NLHRP and coordinates with states, territories, 
and Indian tribes to coordinate data collection and share 
information.18 The NLPA also charges the USGS with mapping 
and researching landslide hazards, responding to landslides, and 
coordinating with state, local, territorial, and tribal entities to 
reduce landslide risks.19 The goal of 3DEP is to establish 
high-quality topographic elevation data of the entire U.S., enabling 
better understanding of landslides and why they occur.20 
USGS uses Light Detection and Ranging (LIDAR) technology when mapping 
the Earth.21 By the end of fiscal year (FY) 2022, the USGS 
had elevation data gathered via LIDAR for 90 percent of the U.S. 
22 3DEP allows the USGS to gather new topography data and 
study how landslides shift the landscape from one year to the next. 
This allows USGS and the states to develop plans and procedures in the 
event of a landslide to minimize losses.
    Landslides have affected numerous communities across the U.S. In 
2018, Alaska experienced a devastating series of 43 landslides after a 
7.1-magnitude earthquake hit just north of Anchorage.23 This 
disaster caused $76 million in damage, but fortunately, there were no 
fatalities.24 Heavy rainfall is the most common cause of 
landslides, particularly rainfall on burned, steeply sloped terrain 
(e.g., a post-wildfire debris flow).25 H.R. 2250 
reauthorizes NLHRP at $35 million, which represents an increased 
authorization of $10 million per year until FY 2030, over the current 
$25 million levels. It also authorizes 3DEP through FY 2030 at the 
current authorization of appropriations level of $40 million per 
year.26
H.R. 2556 (Rep. Hunt), ``Comprehensive Offshore Resource Enhancement 
        Act of 2025'' or the ``CORE Act of 2025''
    The OCS is critical in the United States' energy strategy, 
providing substantial oil and natural gas resources that contribute to 
national energy security, economic stability, and coastal resiliency 
goals. BOEM periodically conducts resource assessments of the OCS and 
regularly prepares 5-year leasing plans as mandated by the Energy 
Policy Act of 2005 (EPAct05) 27 and OCSLA.28 
These assessments, which include Undiscovered Technically Recoverable 
Resources (UTRR) and Undiscovered Economically Recoverable Resources 
(UERR), are crucial for informed decision-making and contribute to 5-
year program planning and development.29 UTRR and UERR are 
critical components of BOEM's comprehensive inventory and analysis of 
oil and natural gas resources in the OCS. Undiscovered oil and gas 
resources in the OCS have the potential to significantly boost the U.S. 
economy while maintaining the U.S. edge in producing cleaner 
hydrocarbons than the rest of the world. For example, energy production 
occurring in the Gulf of America is 46% less carbon-intensive when 
displacing global production in countries like Russia, China, and 
Iran.30
    Bilateral maritime boundary treaties, such as the 1990 US-Soviet 
Union (now Russia) Maritime Boundary Agreement and the 2000 US-Mexico 
Maritime Boundary Agreement, include provisions on sovereign rights 
over natural resources.31 These agreements ensure that 
neither country can claim resources in the other's territory. The 2000 
US-Mexico Agreement also addresses transboundary hydrocarbon 
reservoirs, establishing a framework for equitable and efficient 
development of such resources.32 Looking to the north, 
ongoing disputes with Canada over jurisdictional rights to OCS areas, 
particularly in the Beaufort Sea, Gulf of Alaska, and Gulf of Maine, 
underscore the critical need to first delineate maritime boundaries to 
establish ownership before even considering potential transboundary 
resource development.33 34
    The CORE Act addresses the critical need for enhanced assessment of 
transboundary hydrocarbon reservoirs by requiring BOEM to leverage 
existing seismic data to resolve boundary disputes, examine unresolved 
boundaries for decision-maker clarity, and assess joint production 
feasibility. It also forces BOEM to assess activity by Cuba, Mexico, 
Canada, the Bahamas, and Russia to ensure compliance with transboundary 
agreements to determine whether U.S. revenue is protected from 
exploitation of cross-border reservoirs with our neighbors.
    BOEM's current resource assessment process faces challenges in data 
acquisition, technological integration, and environmental impact 
considerations. Additionally, the two most recent analyses by BOEM 
skewed greatly in their findings. In 2016, BOEM reported UTRR totaled 
91 billion barrels of oil (BBO), 328 trillion cubic feet (TCF) of gas, 
and 149 billion barrels of oil equivalent (BOE).35 By 2021, 
these figures had dropped to 68 BBO, 229 TCF of gas, and 109 
BOE.36 The resulting decrease was not due to production, 
discoveries, seepage, or any rational cause. The CORE Act would amend 
EPAct05 to ensure that resource assessments include the latest data and 
methodologies for accurate and reliable estimates and would 
specifically detail what BOEM should consider in each assessment.
    By improving BOEM's data acquisition methods, this bill will prompt 
an increase in domestic oil production, which will bring greater energy 
security, more affordable energy prices, a lower national trade 
deficit, and increased revenue passed to states for vital coastal 
restoration and infrastructure projects. Additionally, the bill would 
mandate an economic analysis to assess the potential for job creation 
from OCS development across exploration, production, refining, and 
logistics. The bill also commissions an evaluation on how development 
of OCS resources could supply fuel and materials for the Department of 
Defense and U.S. allies, and an analysis of how preventing realization 
of offshore energy receipts (bonuses, rents, and royalties) from 
producing these undiscovered resources could impact funding for states 
and coastal political subdivisions under federal laws that support 
costal protection, conservation and cultural preservation. Lastly, 
Section 3 of the bill requires the Secretary of the Interior to publish 
a comparative analysis of offshore oil and gas practices among major 
producing countries 1 year after enactment and every 10 years 
thereafter, comparing U.S. leasing practices to those of other offshore 
producing countries to assess our competitiveness.
    The Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources held a legislative 
hearing on the CORE Act on July 23, 2024.37 Provisions that 
have changed in the current version include the addition of the 
Transboundary hydrocarbon analysis, U.S.-Canada collaborative boundary 
delineation instructions, changes to agency roles from Secretary of 
Defense to Secretary of State, addition of non-energy mineral resource 
analyses, and comparative analysis of other offshore producing 
countries' practices to those of the United States.
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H.R. 3168 (Rep. Valadao), ``National Earthquake Hazards Reduction 
        Program Reauthorization Act of 2025''
    The USGS is in charge of monitoring and reporting earthquakes, 
assessing damage, and researching their causes and 
effects.38 The National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program 
(NEHRP) 39 is aimed at gaining a better understanding of 
earthquakes while also reducing risks in the United 
States.40 NEHRP is a joint agency effort led by the National 
Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), with help from the USGS, 
the National Science Foundation (NSF), and the Federal Emergency 
Management Agency (FEMA).41 These agencies work together to 
conduct science, but they also have individual goals for mitigating 
damage from earthquakes.
    NEHRP was first authorized in 1977 42 with the goal of 
managing the impacts of earthquakes on life, property, and the 
economy.43 The program was designed to achieve this goal 
through a large, coordinated effort between the community of earthquake 
professionals in academia, businesses, government agencies, and codes 
and standards organizations that develop earthquake building 
codes.44 NEHRP has been reauthorized several times, and most 
recently in 2018.45 This reauthorization in 2018 established 
the first operational earthquake early warning system in the United 
States aptly named ShakeAlert.46
    Currently, ShakeAlert operates in California, Oregon, and 
Washington and aims to provide alerts to people who are in the affected 
areas of an earthquake.47 This application, run by the USGS, 
can save thousands of lives and millions of dollars by alerting an 
individual's phone or other electronic device, notifying them that an 
earthquake has been detected. The application has successfully been 
integrated into several industries across the West Coast, specifically 
on the Metrolink in Southern California 48 It has been 
integrated into Metrolink's Positive Train Control systems to 
automatically slow or stop trains when an alert is 
received.49
    H.R. 3168 reauthorizes NEHRP through FY 2030.
H.R. 3176 (Rep. Begich), To amend the John D. Dingell, Jr. 
        Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act to reauthorize the 
        National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System.
    The United States currently has about 170 young volcanoes, and 
roughly half of those pose a threat due to their proximity to 
communities and the intensity of their eruptions.50 Many of 
these volcanoes are not adequately monitored, and others have no 
monitoring equipment.51
    The National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System (NVEWS) 
52 was established in 2019 through the John D. Dingell, Jr. 
Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act.53 This program 
was new in 2019 and falls under the Volcano Hazards Program (VHP) which 
has existed since 1980 and is also administered by USGS.54 
Congress authorized appropriations of $55 million for NVEWS from FY 
2019 through FY 2023. In FY 2022, Congress appropriated an additional 
$2.2 million for NVEWS implementation and $1.8 million for the Mount 
Rainier lahar detection system out of the $33.3 million appropriated to 
the VHP.55 The authorization for NVEWS expired at the end of 
FY 2023, but its programs have continued to operate as a part of VHP.
    The USGS operates many volcano observatories across the country, 
the hubs of which are located in Alaska, California, Hawaii, and 
Washington.56 These observatories electronically monitor and 
research volcanoes while remaining far enough away from the danger of 
an eruption. These observatories are outfitted with seismometers, GPS 
receivers, and gas sniffers to track seismicity or detect volcanic gas 
in the surrounding area.57
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    The goal of NVEWS is to monitor the most active and hazardous 
volcanoes to give ample time to evacuate the communities in the 
surrounding area of the volcano.58 Hawaii is the most at 
risk state as the islands themselves are active volcanoes, so the 
nearby cities must be prepared for potential eruptions. Additionally, 
Alaska has the most volcanoes in its borders of any state at over 130 
volcanoes and volcanic fields, and more than 50 have been active in the 
last 300 years.59
    H.R. 3176 reauthorizes NVEWS through FY 2030.

IV. MAJOR PROVISIONS & ANALYSIS

H.R. 513 (Rep. Higgins), ``Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025''
Section 2: Nullification of Specific Withdrawals:
     Revokes eight Presidential memoranda and executive 
            orders from 2014 to 2025 that withdrew offshore lands from 
            mineral leasing, including areas in the Arctic, Atlantic, 
            Gulf of America, and Pacific.
Section 3: Limitation of authority of the President to withdraw 
        unleased offshore lands.

     Withdrawal Restrictions (Section 12(a)(2)):

     Limits withdrawals to 150,000 acres per action, non-
            contiguous with other withdrawals, and caps the duration of 
            each withdrawal at 20 years. A President's cumulative 
            withdrawals are restricted to 500,000 acres without 
            Congressional approval. These constraints aim to prevent 
            broad, indefinite restrictions on offshore energy 
            development while balancing executive flexibility.

     Mandatory Assessments (Section 12(a)(3)):

     Requires the Secretary of the Interior to conduct 
            mineral resource assessments within five years before a 
            withdrawal, alongside economic, energy, and national 
            security evaluations. Assessments must also quantify 
            revenue losses to federal and state entities. These 
            requirements ensure data-driven decisions, highlighting the 
            impacts of withdrawals on the American economy.

     Congressional Disapproval Mechanism (Section 12(a)(4)):

     Establishes a joint resolution process for Congress to 
            disapprove withdrawals, with expedited Senate procedures. 
            Disapproved withdrawals lose effect, and substantially 
            similar withdrawals are barred without legislation. This 
            empowers Congress to check executive overreach and maintain 
            access to offshore resources.

     Judicial Review (Section 12(a)(4)(G)):

     Prohibits judicial review of actions under the 
            disapproval process, shielding Congressional decisions from 
            legal challenges and ensuring swift resolution of disputes 
            over withdrawals.

     Alignment with Leasing Programs (Section 12(a)(5)):

     Prohibits withdrawals that conflict with approved 5-
            year oil and gas leasing programs under Section 18 of 
            OCSLA. This ensures consistency with established energy 
            development plans, minimizing disruptions to leasing 
            schedules.

H.R. 931 (Rep. Downing), To allow certain Federal minerals to be mined 
        consistent with the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification

     Authorizes all Federal coal reserves in Montana leased 
            under Lease MTM 97988 to be mined in accordance with the 
            Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification.

H.R. 2250 (Rep. DelBene), ``National Landslide Preparedness Act 
        Reauthorization Act of 2025''

     Reauthorizes NLHRP through FY 2030. Increases the previous 
            authorization level by $10 million from $25 million to $35 
            million per year.

     Reauthorizes 3DEP through FY 2030. Maintains the previous 
            authorization level of $40 million per year.

H.R. 2556 (Rep. Hunt), ``Comprehensive Offshore Resource Enhancement 
        Act of 2025'' or the ``CORE Act of 2025''

SEC. 2. Assessment of Offshore Resources

     Transboundary Hydrocarbon Report (Section 2(b)):

     Requires the Secretaries of Energy, Interior, and 
            State to submit a report within 18 months on transboundary 
            hydrocarbon reservoirs. The report will identify 
            reservoirs, analyze legal frameworks, evaluate economic and 
            geopolitical implications, and recommend cooperative 
            mechanisms with neighboring countries.

     Standardized Resource Inventories (Section 2(c)):

     Amends 42 U.S.C. Sec. 15912 to mandate the Secretary 
            of the Interior, in consultation with other agencies, to 
            conduct offshore resource inventories every five years in 
            the OCS. Inventories assess undiscovered resources, 
            economic impacts, national security, and revenue effects of 
            land withdrawals. This ensures regular, comprehensive data 
            to guide leasing and policy decisions.

     Model Updates and Assessments (Section 2(c)):

     Requires the Secretary to assess and update resource 
            inventory models every 10 years, starting within one year 
            of enactment, in consultation with industry experts.

SEC. 3. Comparative Analysis of Offshore Practices

     Global Offshore Production Analysis:

     Mandates a comparative analysis every 10 years of 
            offshore oil and gas practices in major producing 
            countries. The analysis covers leasing acres, auction 
            frequency, production volumes, and resource estimates, 
            using USGS data and advanced technologies. This informs 
            U.S. policy by benchmarking against global competitors, 
            enhancing competitiveness and energy diversification.

H.R. 3168 (Rep. Valadao), ``National Earthquake Hazards Reduction 
        Program Reauthorization Act of 2025''

     Reauthorizes NEHRP through FY 2030. Maintains the previous 
            authorization level of $83.4 million per year.

H.R. 3176 (Rep. Begich), To amend the John D. Dingell, Jr. 
        Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act to reauthorize the 
        National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System

     Reauthorizes NVEWS through FY 2030. Maintains the previous 
            authorization level of $55 million over 5 years..

V. COST

    A formal cost estimate from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) 
is not available.
VI. ADMINISTRATIVE POSITION

    Unknown.

VII. EFFECT ON CURRENT LAW (RAMSEYER)

    H.R. 513
    https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bill-to-
law_119hr513ih.pdf

    H.R. 2250
    https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bill-to-
law_119hr2556ih.pdf

    H.R. 2556
    https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bill-to-
law_119hr2556ih.pdf

    H.R. 3168
    https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bill-to-
law_h.r._3168.pdf

    H.R. 3176
    https://naturalresources.house.gov/uploadedfiles/bill-to-
law_119hr3176ih.pdf
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  LEGISLATIVE HEARING ON: H.R. 513, OFFSHORE LANDS AUTHORITIES ACT OF 
     2025; H.R. 931, TO ALLOW CERTAIN FEDERAL MINERALS TO BE MINED 
 CONSISTENT WITH THE BULL MOUNTAINS MINING PLAN MODIFICATION, AND FOR 
    OTHER PURPOSES; H.R. 2250, NATIONAL LANDSLIDE PREPAREDNESS ACT 
REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2025; H.R. 2556, COMPREHENSIVE OFFSHORE RESOURCE 
 EVALUATION ACT OF 2025, OR THE CORE ACT OF 2025; H.R. 3168, NATIONAL 
 EARTHQUAKE HAZARDS REDUCTION PROGRAM REAUTHORIZATION ACT OF 2025; AND 
H.R. 3176, TO AMEND THE JOHN D. DINGELL, JR. CONSERVATION, MANAGEMENT, 
 AND RECREATION ACT TO REAUTHORIZE THE NATIONAL VOLCANO EARLY WARNING 
                         AND MONITORING SYSTEM

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                         Tuesday, May 20, 2025

                        House of Representatives

              Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources

                     Committee on Natural Resources

                            Washington, D.C.

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    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2:20 p.m. in 
Room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Pete Stauber 
[Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Stauber, Hunt, Hageman, Ezell, 
Begich, Hurd, Westerman; Ansari, Elfreth, and Rivas.
    Also present: Representative Downing, Higgins, Valadao; 
DelBene, and Pallone.
    Mr. Stauber. The Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral 
Resources will come to order.
    Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare a 
recess of the Subcommittee at any time.
    Under Committee rule 4(f), any oral opening statements and 
hearings are limited to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority 
Member.
    I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman from New Jersey, 
Mr. Pallone, be allowed to participate in today's hearing; the 
gentlewoman from Washington, Ms. DelBene, be allowed to 
participate in today's hearing; the gentleman from California, 
Mr. Valadao, be allowed to participate in today's hearing; the 
gentleman from Louisiana, Mr. Higgins, be allowed to 
participate in today's hearing; and the gentleman from Montana, 
Mr. Downing, be allowed to participate in today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I now recognize myself for an opening statement.

    STATEMENT OF THE HON. PETE STAUBER, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA

    Mr. Stauber. Thank you all for being here today to discuss 
these important pieces of legislation. The bills we have before 
us today address a range of topics, including the Biden 
administration's lackluster energy policies that continue to 
harm our Nation's energy security, as well as the United States 
Geological Survey's Hazardous Missions Area.
    H.R. 931, introduced by Representative Downing, would allow 
certain Federal coal resources to be mined consistent with the 
Bull Mountains Mining Plan modification. Currently, the leased 
coal reserves in this mine are set to run out by the end of 
this year unless congressional action is taken. The Biden 
administration blatantly violated the National Environmental 
Policy Act, or NEPA, by failing to promptly start the 
environmental review process required under the law. Whether 
they did so purposefully no longer matters, as Congress must 
act to right this wrong and prevent an economic situation in 
the surrounding rural communities.
    We also have three pieces of legislation to authorize three 
different hazards programs at the USGS. The bills include H.R. 
2250 from Representative DelBene; H.R. 3168 from Representative 
Valadao; and H.R. 3176 from Representative Begich. These bills 
would authorize important programs that help save lives and 
protect our communities, including the National Landslide 
Hazard Reduction Program, or NLHRP; the 3D Elevation Program, 
or 3DEP; the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, or 
NEHRP; and the National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring 
System, NVEWS. NLHRP and 3DEP play vital roles in mitigating 
the effects of natural hazards caused by landslides. NEHRP 
established the ShakeAlert application, which provides 
earthquake early warnings to Americans living and working on 
the West Coast of the United States. NVEWS monitors and warns 
communities near and around volcanoes when volcanic activity is 
imminent.
    Representative Higgins's H.R. 513 limits the ability of the 
Federal Government to lock up offshore oil and gas development 
which is critical not only for our energy security but also our 
strategic national security. This bill addresses a similar 
issue to what my constituents have experienced.
    I cannot express my disappointment in the Biden 
administration's decision to withdraw over 225,000 acres in my 
home State of Minnesota, restricting access to the Duluth 
Complex, which is the largest untapped copper nickel find in 
the world.
    Similarly, in the waning days of his administration, 
President Biden announced a withdrawal of over 625 million 
acres on the Outer Continental Shelf. The Biden 
administration's offshore energy lockups, along with their 
onshore mineral withdrawals, have cost Americans thousands of 
good-paying, often union jobs that are economic drivers in our 
respective local communities. These misguided actions threaten 
our long-term energy security and only serve to placate radical 
environmentalists who wish to divert energy and mining 
production overseas.
    H.R. 513 nullifies 8 expansive withdrawals from the Arctic 
to the Gulf unlocking roughly 40 million barrels of oil and 
over 175 trillion cubic feet of gas in these areas, according 
to BOEM. Additionally, the bill would cap future withdrawals at 
150,000 acres, limit withdrawals to 20 years, and mandate 
economic and resource assessments be completed before a 
withdrawal may take place.
    The last piece is especially important because when 
Secretary Haaland banned 225,000 acres of mining in the Duluth 
Complex and the Superior National Forest in northeastern 
Minnesota, in a Senate hearing, when asked, her comments were, 
``I did not think there were critical minerals in there.'' 
Ladies and gentleman, it's the biggest untapped copper nickel 
find in the world, and she signed off to ban, did not even know 
what was in that complex. By requiring an economic and resource 
assessment prior to withdrawal, future secretaries and future 
administrations will know exactly what kind of minerals and 
energy resources they are locking up and exactly how their 
lockups will hurt the American people and our economy.
    Lastly, Representative Hunt's bill, H.R. 2556, or the CORE 
Act, would enhance offshore resource assessments with precise 
resource mapping. By strengthening the Bureau of Ocean Energy 
Management assessments, the CORE Act reduces uncertainty, 
bolsters U.S. leasing competitiveness, and will deliver 
benefits to taxpayers and coastal communities. Together, these 
bills shatter arbitrary barriers restoring America's offshore 
energy supremacy.
    And I look forward to hearing from our witnesses on these 
bills.
    Mr. Stauber. And I will now yield to the Ranking Member for 
her opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. YASSAMIN ANSARI, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
               CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA

    Ms. Ansari. Good afternoon, everyone. It is nice to see 
you, Chair Stauber. I wanted to start off, thank you, with a 
special thank you to Dr. Walter Cruickshank for being here 
today.
    I understand that you are nearing retirement after a four-
decade-plus-long career in public service at the Department of 
the Interior, and we are very grateful for your service.
    We are here today to discuss six bills in the 
Subcommittee's jurisdiction: two on offshore drilling, one on a 
controversial coal mine, and three bipartisan United States 
Geological Survey hazard program reauthorizations. Let's dive 
in, starting with offshore drilling.
    I will start by saying clearly: there is no energy 
emergency, and we do not need to expand unfettered, unregulated 
fossil fuel development. The United States is already producing 
more oil and gas than any country in history, and yet energy 
costs are still pinching at Americans' pocketbooks. This 
phenomenon has a simple explanation: prices are high because 
the oil industry does not put America first; they put profits 
first.
    Big oil is already sitting on nearly 2,000 unused leases in 
the Gulf, covering almost 10 million acres of Federal waters, 
just waiting for the price per barrel to go up before producing 
so they can make more money. Yet, Republicans are giving them 
even more control of your coasts and waters with H.R. 513.
    This bill overturns Biden and Obama-era protections against 
offshore drilling for the Atlantic and Pacific coasts, for the 
Arctic, and for the Bering Sea Climate Resilience Area, an area 
co-managed by Tribes to protect fishing grounds and other 
resources. Notably, this bill leaves intact the Trump-era 
protections for the coast of North Carolina, the Southeast, and 
the Eastern Gulf because Republicans know backlash from their 
own party would be unbearable.
    And Republicans are not stopping there. To make development 
even more enticing, Republicans would have taxpayers subsidize 
even more of the cost of doing business, like exploratory 
testing. That is what H.R. 2556, the CORE Act, would do, 
directing the Federal Government to do risky, harmful seismic 
testing across all of our coasts at the taxpayer's expense. 
This is on top of $15 billion in direct subsidies that we 
already give to the fossil fuel industry every single year.
    And meanwhile, this Administration and its friends in 
Congress are firing critical agency staff while slashing 
budgets to the bone. Our Federal agencies will have to make 
hard decisions with their limited resources like choosing 
between sending staff out to do safety inspections on oil rigs 
or having them do exploratory testing on the industry's behalf. 
Is this really how the American people want to spend their own 
money, cutting essential safety checks so that we can pay for 
big oil's exploration?
    Republicans will stop at nothing to give away our public 
lands and waters to the dirty fossil fuel industry just hoping 
that this time the industry will be nice to us in return. That 
is just what is happening in H.R. 931. This bill would 
authorize the expansion of the Bull Mountains Mine, which 
produces Federal coal in Montana. This mine expansion has been 
shot down twice by the courts for insufficient environmental 
analysis, and the company that owns the mine has only just 
gotten off probation with the Department of Justice. The cherry 
on top? The coal mine that this mine produces is exported. It 
is not even for American energy. But we know how this ends. 
These efforts will not end with lower prices, but with more 
pollution, more disease, more climate chaos, and the rich 
getting richer while you pay their bills.
    I remind my colleagues here and the American public at home 
that we do not have to stay stuck in this loop. Fossil fuels 
are not our only option. Renewable energy is cheaper and just 
as reliable as fossil fuels, and that is without factoring in 
the extra cost of cleaning up oil spills or hospital bills for 
pollution-induced asthma. We can and we must do better.
    Finally, I am happy to support the three natural hazard 
reauthorization bills, although I would like to remind my 
colleagues across the aisle that we are actively seeing the 
President go outside of his authority to kneecap nearly all of 
Interior, including the USGS employees who are implementing 
these essential programs.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. Now I will begin our 
member panel to allow bill sponsors to speak on their 
legislation. I will now recognize Mr. Hunt from Texas's 38th 
congressional district for his testimony on his bill.

STATEMENT OF THE HON. WESLEY HUNT, A REPRESENTATIVE IN CONGRESS 
                    FROM THE STATE OF TEXAS

    Mr. Hunt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I thank the 
witnesses for joining us today.
    In 2011 the Obama administration reported that 162 billion 
barrels of oil equivalent were in the Outer Continental Shelf, 
the OCS. And in 2016, also during the Obama administration, 
BOEM reported 149 barrels of oil equivalent in the OCS. The 
difference in undiscovered reserves in the OCS from 2011 
through 2015 under President Obama was actually pretty normal.
    Let's fast forward to 2021 and BOEM, under the Biden 
administration, reported 109 billion barrels of oil equivalent 
undiscovered in the OCS, the lowest reported number in decades. 
One of the worst-kept secrets in Washington is that Biden's 
BOEM was incredibly impartial, even aggressive at times, toward 
our domestic oil and gas industry which then begs the question: 
Were these 2021 BOEM numbers accurate, or were they another 
attempt at harming our energy industry in the Gulf of America?
    Following BOEM's reported numbers came the worst 5-year 
leasing plan in our Nation's history, offering the fewest 
number of offshore oil and gas leases ever. This action left us 
with an oil and gas industry that is now scrambling to 
reestablish itself as a global leader and meet the market's 
demand. And this is why my legislation, the Comprehensive 
Offshore Resource Evaluation Act, or the CORE Act, is so 
important.
    Oil and gas will continue to be an important part of our 
energy mix, and not only today and tomorrow, but also in our 
near and distant future. And if you think otherwise, you are 
simply fooling yourself. Taking politics out of BOEM and giving 
it guardrails is imperative to the future of our national 
security and energy security.
    And lastly, section 4 of the CORE Act relates to geological 
and geophysical permitting and surveys which are crucial to the 
exploration and development of our offshore oil and gas 
resources. Accurate G&G data is essential for identifying 
potential deposits, estimating their size, and understanding 
their characteristics so that our offshore workers can do their 
job. Improving BOEM's data acquisition methods will prompt an 
increase in domestic oil production which will bring greater 
energy security to our Nation, more affordable energy prices 
for all of our families, and lower national trade deficits, and 
increased revenue to States for vital coastal restoration and 
infrastructure projects.
    And just as a reminder, the Gulf of America produces the 
cleanest and most efficient barrel of oil found anywhere in the 
world. In fact, it is 46 percent less carbon-intensive than oil 
produced in Russia, China, and Iran.
    The American people deserve an honest oil and gas 
assessment process. And with this bill we can deliver for all 
American families.
    Mr. Hunt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and with that I yield 
back the rest of my time.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. I now recognize Mr. 
Begich from Alaska's at-large congressional district for his 
testimony on his bill.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. NICK BEGICH III, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
               CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ALASKA

    Mr. Begich. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for the 
opportunity to speak on H.R. 3176, my bill to reauthorize the 
National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System, or NVEWS.
    As the representative for Alaska, where over 50 active 
volcanoes define our landscape and daily risk profile, this 
legislation is not just timely, it is also essential. Alaska is 
home to the vast majority of the Nation's active volcanoes. 
These aren't remote curiosities. Many sit beneath international 
air routes and near major population centers.
    Mount Spurr, located just 80 miles from Anchorage, is 
currently in a state of volcanic unrest. It remains at a yellow 
alert level as of today due to elevated seismicity, gas 
emissions, and ground deformation. While the short-term 
eruption risk has slightly decreased since March, an event 
similar to those in 1953 or 1992 remains a very real 
possibility. This is not a theoretical threat in Alaska. This 
is happening now. And if Mount Spurr erupts, ashfall could shut 
down aviation, damage critical infrastructure, and pose a 
public health emergency.
    H.R. 3176 is a straightforward, 5-year reauthorization that 
maintains current funding levels. It provides continuity for 
the U.S. Geological Survey and its partners to keep operating 
and upgrading our volcano monitoring networks. It prioritizes 
instrumentation at high-threat volcanoes, ensures rapid data 
transmission, and supports real-time coordination with State 
agencies and emergency responders, all of which are especially 
critical in remote, high-risk States like Alaska.
    Volcanic hazards are not hypothetical. They are active and 
present. Mount Spurr's activity today underscores the need for 
preparedness over complacency. Early warnings save lives, 
protect property, and reduce the cost of emergency response. In 
Alaska, where terrain, distance, and weather already complicate 
disaster logistics, this system gives us a fighting chance.
    The National Volcano Early Warning System has always had 
bipartisan backing. This reauthorization is a pragmatic, 
measured step that k a proven system running without 
expanding scope or increasing appropriations.
    I urge my colleagues to support this bill and ensure that 
communities living in the shadow of volcanoes, especially in 
Alaska, have the tools they need to stay safe.
    Mr. Begich. And with that I yield the balance of my time.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you. I now recognize Ms. DelBene from 
Washington's 1st congressional district for her testimony on 
her bill.

   STATEMENT OF THE HON. SUZAN DELBENE, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF WASHINGTON

    Ms. DelBene. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank you 
and the Ranking Member for holding this important hearing and 
inviting me to provide testimony on my legislation to 
reauthorize the National Landslide Preparedness Act.
    Landslides kill 20 to 50 people and cause between $2 and $4 
billion in damage each year. And unfortunately, this is a 
reality that people back in my district know all too well. 
Eleven years ago, on March 22, 2014, Washington experienced one 
of our Nation's worst natural disasters. In a matter of 
seconds, the side of a mountain, a tragic, massive landslide 
near Oso, Washington killed 43 people, destroyed an entire 
neighborhood of over 40 homes, and severely damaged public 
infrastructure and private property. That day forever changed 
the people of Oso, Darrington, Arlington, the Stillaguamish and 
Sauk-Suiattle Tribes, and they are still living with its scars 
today.
    I went to Oso immediately after the disaster to support the 
community and families who had lost loved ones and their homes. 
Our first responders were the true heroes that day, and they 
worked countless days and nights trying to save lives and 
recover loved ones. These were some of the most heartbreaking 
days of my time in office.
    Following that tragedy, in 2016, I introduced the National 
Landslide Preparedness Act. As the Oso landslide demonstrated, 
simply sending aid after a tragic natural disaster is not 
enough. We need to invest in programs and research efforts to 
prevent future natural disasters from becoming national 
tragedies. I worked tirelessly to get the National Landslide 
Preparedness Act signed into law in 2021, with the support of 
many of you in this room today.
    This law established a National Landslide Hazards Reduction 
Program through the United States Geological Survey to better 
identify and understand landslide risks, protect communities, 
save lives and property, and help improve emergency 
preparedness. It also authorized the 3D Elevation Program, 
which in the past few years has made incredible strides to 
update and coordinate the collection of enhanced, high-
resolution, topographical data across the country.
    In addition to helping communities plan for and respond to 
natural hazards, this data is being used to improve public 
safety, national security, infrastructure, agriculture, and 
natural resource management. Through this law, we made 
significant progress in landslide science, allowing communities 
to be better prepared for when landslides do occur. And it 
couldn't come soon enough. In recent years we have seen 
dramatic increases in extreme weather events. We need to do 
everything in our power to make sure that communities across 
the country continue to have the tools at their disposal to be 
prepared.
    The programs authorized by the National Landslide 
Preparedness Act expired in September of last year. I was 
encouraged that the House passed the legislation last Congress, 
but we know that nothing really changes until this bill makes 
it to the President's desk. I introduced the reauthorization 
bill along with Representatives Schrier, Gluesenkamp Perez, 
Newhouse, and most of the Washington delegation to reauthorize 
these programs through 2030. This bill has bipartisan and 
bicameral support. Senators Cantwell and Murkowski will be 
leading the effort in the Senate.
    Every State across the country faces landslide risks, which 
is why we must reauthorize these critical programs. Thank you 
again for the opportunity to speak on the need to reauthorize 
the National Landslide Preparedness Act.
    Ms. DelBene. And I yield back.
    Mr. Ezell [presiding]. We thank the gentlewoman for her 
testimony. I now recognize Mr. David Valadao from California's 
22nd congressional district for his testimony on his bill.

   STATEMENT OF THE HON. DAVID VALADAO, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

    Mr. Valadao. Thank you, and I want to thank the Chairman 
Stauber and Ranking Member Ansari for having me. I am here 
today in support of my bill, H.R. 3168, the National Earthquake 
Hazards Reduction Program Reauthorization Act of 2025.
    Every year California faces hundreds of earthquakes, and 
more than 70 percent of our State's population lives within 30 
miles of a fault line. My district in Central Valley is 
surrounded by faults. The San Andreas to the west, the Garlock 
to the south, the Sierra Nevada faults to the east create 
extreme risk for those living in and around the valley. 
Ensuring my constituents in California's 22nd congressional 
district are protected from extreme natural disasters, is one 
of my top priorities, and this bill is a great first step.
    While earthquakes might cause billions of dollars in damage 
to infrastructure, the real cost is in the lives lost in these 
catastrophes. Investing in critical warning detection systems 
like the ShakeAlert and providing researchers with the tools 
needed to make scientific break-throughs in earthquake damage 
mitigation is crucial to ensuring people are, as safe as 
possible.
    This bipartisan bill would reauthorize the National 
Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program through Fiscal Year 2030 
to provide resources for the development, research, and 
implementation of lifesaving earthquake risk reduction and 
safety technology.
    I am proud to lead this legislation with my California 
colleague, Jim Costa, and I want to thank Chairman Stauber and 
his staff for their work on this important bill.
    The Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program has saved 
thousands of lives and billions of dollars, and I look forward 
to working with this Committee and our colleagues on the 
Science, Space, and Technology Committee to fully reauthorize 
this critical program. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Mr. Valadao. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Mr. Ezell. I thank the gentleman for his testimony. I now 
recognize Mr. Clay Higgins from Louisiana's 3rd congressional 
district for his testimony on this bill.

    STATEMENT OF THE HON. CLAY HIGGINS, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF LOUISIANA

    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I thank the 
Ranking Member for allowing me an opportunity to waive on to 
today's Subcommittee hearing.
    The production of reliable, transportable, and affordable 
energy product is a cornerstone of economic prosperity, and it 
is a topic that my bill seeks to address, H.R. 513, the 
Offshore Lands Authorities Act.
    America has a responsibility to lead the world in the 
effort of energy production, and nowhere is the production of 
oil and gas energy product cleaner than here in the United 
States. Private industry innovations, not heavy-handed 
government mandates have allowed the United States to become a 
global leader in emissions reduction.
    However, my colleagues across the aisle have for decades 
sought to align the Federal Government against the oil and gas 
and petrochemical industries. In the final days of his 
administration, Joe Biden furthered that agenda with the 
withdrawal of over 625 million acres of Federal waters from 
leasing and potential development. Closing those offshore lands 
to energy producers does not change the demand for reliable 
energy product, nor does it reduce overall production of oil 
and gas on a global scale. What the Biden drilling ban does is 
shift energy production to foreign producers, raises energy 
costs for American families, and threatens jobs and economic 
growth domestically. When President Biden closed 625 million 
acres on the Outer Continental shelf to American producers, 
there was zero acres closed in Russia and China.
    The Federal Government should be a partner to America's 
energy industry, not a predator. That is why I introduced H.R. 
513, the Offshore Lands Authorities Act, with Congressman Hunt, 
who serves on this Subcommittee, and many other conservatives. 
Our bill repeals the Biden drilling ban and helps codify the 
action President Trump took on day one to unleash America's 
potential to produce clean, abundant, and affordable energy.
    The Offshore Lands Authorities Act also establishes 
guardrails to provide predictability and consistency in future 
leasing. The bill safeguards America's role as a leader in 
energy production, enacts boundaries on any future land 
withdrawal, and increases congressional oversight on decisions 
made through the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act.
    Continued energy exploration and development of offshore 
lands requires stability in the leasing process. Radical 
pendulum swings driven by political disdain for the oil and gas 
industry or support, that swing threatens America's energy and 
economic security because it reduces consistency and 
reliability in leasing. Congress should take action to protect 
responsible energy production, restore production in American 
policies, and safeguard access to lease Federal lands and 
waters. Our legislation accomplishes this goal, and I encourage 
my colleagues to strongly support H.R. 513, the Offshore Land 
Authorities Act.
    Mr. Higgins. Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to 
introduce a letter from Americans for Prosperity in support of 
my bill.
    Mr. Ezell. Without objection.

    [The letter follows:]
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    Mr. Higgins. I yield, sir, thank you.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields. the Chair now recognizes 
the full Committee Chairman, Mr. Bruce Westerman, for an 
opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. BRUCE WESTERMAN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ARKANSAS

    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate you 
for holding this hearing and for shepherding these important 
bills forward, and Representative Stauber's leadership on that.
    You know, U.S. peak energy demand is now projected to grow 
by as much as 128 gigawatts through 2029, which is a fivefold 
increase from earlier forecasts. Now more than ever, long-term 
American energy dominance is essential to our economic and our 
national security. To meet this skyrocketing energy demand we 
must increase energy production everywhere, including on our 
Federal lands and waters.
    While the Federal Government owns 61 percent of America's 
onshore and 99 percent of America's offshore mineral estate, 
only 25 percent of domestic oil and 11 percent of domestic 
natural gas come from Federal lands and waters. Responsibly 
utilizing these resources is critical to America's social and 
economic future.
    H.R. 2556, the CORE Act of 2025, introduced by 
Representative Hunt, would help address these concerns by 
transforming how we map America's offshore energy wealth. The 
CORE Act mandates state-of-the-art tools such as artificial 
intelligence, quantum computing, and seismic surveys to locate 
and assess oil, gas, and minerals like polymetallic nodules and 
ferromanganese crust.
    The bill also requires offshore resource inventories every 
5 years, evaluating jobs, global market impacts, and withdrawal 
effects while fostering collaboration with neighbors like 
Canada, studying shared reservoirs, and settling border 
disputes diplomatically. This analysis will sharpen our 
competitive edge and ensure U.S. leasing practices are 
attractive and are attracting investment, not sending producers 
overseas.
    H.R. 513, introduced by Representative Higgins from 
Louisiana, would also support long-term energy dependence by 
lifting overly expansive offshore withdrawals, ensuring access 
to offshore resources for future generations. H.R. 513 would 
also set common-sense limits on the size and duration of any 
future offshore withdrawals, guarding against unilateral 
decisions that weaken America's energy future.
    Together, these bills empower America with clear-eyed 
strategic energy policies for a resilient, thriving future.
    Representative Downing's H.R. 931 would finally allow 
access to Federal coal reserves at the Bull Mountain Mine in 
Montana. The Bull Mountain Mine in Roundup, Montana, has been 
mired in litigation and procedural hurdles for over a decade. 
This is a perfect case study of how our permitting processes 
are failing everyday Americans, and why we need permitting 
reform along with judicial reform, and we need that badly. 
Congressional action must now be taken due to major judicial 
and administrative delays that have jeopardized this mine and 
the livelihoods of over 300 hard-working people in Montana.
    The three other bills before us today would reauthorize 
several critical programs in the United States Geological 
Survey's Hazard missions area.
    Representative DelBene's H.R. 2250 would reauthorize the 
National Landslide Hazard Reduction Program and the 3D 
Elevation Program, which allows USGS to gather data that 
enables States and communities to reduce damages in the event 
of a landslide.
    H.R. 3168, introduced by Representative Valadao, would 
reauthorize the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, 
which aims to manage the impacts of earthquakes on life, 
property, and the economy by providing critical data for 
building codes and supporting an earthquake early warning 
system.
    H.R. 3176, introduced by Representative Begich, would 
reauthorize the National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring 
System, through which the USGS monitors the most active and 
hazardous volcanoes to give ample time to evacuate nearby 
communities.
    It is impossible to prevent a landslide, an earthquake, or 
a volcanic eruption, so the best course of action is to prepare 
the community in the event of a disaster and send early 
warnings to those in the affected area to give them precious 
time to react before disaster strikes. These programs have 
already demonstrated the ability to save lives through advanced 
building codes being developed by Federal agencies, and the 
USGS has proven it can mitigate the economic impact from these 
through advances in early warning and monitoring systems.
    I look forward to hearing the remainder of the testimony 
from our witnesses.
    Mr. Westerman. And I yield back.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields back. I now recognize Mr. 
Troy Downing from Montana's 2nd congressional district for his 
testimony on his bill.

    STATEMENT OF THE HON. TROY DOWNING, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
               CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MONTANA

    Mr. Downing. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member, and members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to speak today in 
support of H.R. 931. This is legislation I introduced to 
protect Montana jobs and preserve one of the most important 
economic anchors in my district, the Bull Mountains Mine. This 
is not a theoretical problem. This is a real crisis unfolding 
in real time for over 250 workers and their families in 
Musselshell and Yellowstone County. Without action from 
Congress, Montana's only underground coal mine could be forced 
to shut down by the end of the year.
    The Bull Mountains Mine is a major contributor to Montana's 
economy and local tax base. Its operations support hundreds of 
high-paying jobs, and the revenue it generates helps fund our 
schools, county governments, and infrastructure. In recent 
years it has contributed tens of millions of dollars in tax 
revenue and invested significantly in local services and 
scholarships. This is a home-grown operation that supports the 
long-term well-being of the community around it.
    Right now, the longwall mine is up against a wall, not 
because of a market failure or a drop in demand, but because of 
a bureaucratic bottleneck. The company has been seeking Federal 
clearance to continue mining in AM3, amendment three, which 
contains a mix of Federal, State, and private coal. This land 
pattern is complicated, but the issue is simple. Because the 
Federal coal lies along State and private tracks in a 
checkerboard pattern, access to one is dependent on access to 
the others. When access to the Federal coal is blocked, the 
rest becomes inaccessible as well.
    Due to Federal court ruling, the mine is currently barred 
from producing Federal coal in amendment three until an updated 
environmental impact statement is completed. Now, this process 
was supposed to be done by now, but it is behind schedule, and 
the clock is ticking. If the mine cannot access this coal soon, 
the operation will have to shut down. That means families in 
Roundup, Billings, and nearby towns will lose their paychecks. 
It means school districts will lose a key source of revenue, 
and it means Montana will lose its only underground coal mine.
    H.R. 931 offers a narrowly tailored solution. The bill 
allows mining on a limited section of Federal land to keep the 
mine running while the Federal review process continues. It 
does not roll back environmental protections or shortcut 
oversight. The mine remains subject to State and Federal 
regulations, and every ton of coal will be mined under the same 
safety and environmental standards already in place.
    This bill is about saving jobs and protecting a community 
that has done everything by the book. The mine has gone through 
years of environmental reviews, spent millions to meet 
regulatory requirements, and made every good faith effort to 
stay in compliance with Federal law. What it needs now is a 
clear path to keep operating while the Federal Government 
finishes its paperwork.
    Now, the stakes are high. Mining in the AM3 lease area has 
already been disrupted. Private coal seams are nearly 
exhausted, workers are being idled, and there is no backup plan 
if the mine closes. The region cannot afford to lose this 
economic driver, and the workers cannot afford to be left 
waiting on yet another delay.
    H.R. 931 has broad local support. It is backed by State 
leaders and community members who understand just how important 
this mine is to our part of the country. They know this 
legislation is the only way to keep the mine operational in the 
short term. This is a simple solution to a solvable problem.
    I urge the Committee to act swiftly to advance this bill. 
Let's make sure these workers stay on the job, their families 
stay in their homes, and their communities stay strong.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield the remainder of my time.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields back. I thank the gentleman 
for his testimony. We will now move to our second panel, which 
is comprised of one witness.
    Let me remind the witness that, under Committee rules, they 
must limit their oral statements to 5 minutes, but their entire 
statement will appear in the hearing record.
    To begin your testimony, please press talk, the talk button 
on the microphone.
    We are using timing lights. In my previous life, I 
explained the red light system to a lot of people driving 
across south Mississippi, but today it will be just a little 
different. So, when using these lights, you will begin with the 
turn to green. When you have 1 minute remaining the light will 
turn yellow. At the end of the 5 minutes the light will turn 
red, and I will ask you to please complete your statement.
    Dr. Cruickshank, you are now recognized for 5 minutes for 
your testimony.

  STATEMENT OF WALTER CRUICKSHANK, DEPUTY DIRECTOR, BUREAU OF 
   OCEAN ENERGY MANAGEMENT, U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR, 
                        WASHINGTON, D.C.

    Dr. Cruickshank. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Ansari, and 
members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to 
appear before you today to discuss the Comprehensive Offshore 
Resource Evaluation Act and the Offshore Islands Authorities 
Act of 2025. The Department has also submitted statements for 
the record on the other bills you are considering today.
    From his first day in office, President Trump has 
prioritized a revitalization of domestic energy production to 
stimulate economic growth and strengthen our national security. 
His executive order, Unleashing American Energy, reaffirms the 
national interest in maximizing the use of affordable, reliable 
domestic energy resources. The order establishes a clear policy 
directive to promote energy exploration and production on 
Federal lands and waters, including the Outer Continental 
Shelf, to meet the needs of the American people and solidify 
U.S. global energy leadership for generations to come.
    As the Federal OCS steward, the Bureau of Ocean Energy 
Management plays a central role in implementing this policy. 
Our mission is to manage the development of the Nation's 
offshore energy and mineral resources in an economically and 
environmentally responsible manner.
    Offshore energy development is a vital component of U.S. 
national security, and a critical driver of American 
prosperity. Offshore activities support hundreds of thousands 
of jobs and provide a significant share of U.S. energy 
production. Last month, at the direction of Secretary of the 
Interior Doug Burgum, BOEM issued a request for information and 
comments, the first step in the development of the 11th 
National OCS Oil and Gas Leasing Program. The request for 
interest marks the beginning of a multi-year process that 
involves robust public engagement and multiple rounds of 
detailed analysis for the Secretary to consider while rendering 
his final program decision.
    While we remain committed to completing the three Gulf of 
America lease sales outlined in the current national OCS 
program, we are moving forward with developing a new schedule 
that aligns with the President's directive to maximize the use 
of OCS energy resources. BOEM conducts a national assessment of 
undiscovered, technically recoverable resources and 
undiscovered economically recoverable resources every 5 years. 
This assessment informs energy policy, including development of 
the national OCS program, and contributes to the comprehensive 
inventory reports submitted to Congress. BOEM's most recent 
assessment, completed in 2021, estimated mean, undiscovered, 
technically recoverable volumes of almost 69 billion barrels of 
oil and 229 trillion cubic feet of natural gas across the 
entire Outer Continental Shelf. Preparations for the 2026 
assessment are underway, incorporating the latest geologic, 
geophysical, and economic data to ensure accuracy and 
transparency.
    The CORE Act of 2025 aims to strengthen U.S. national 
energy security by modernizing, excuse me, by mandating 
standardized, recurring assessment and mapping of offshore 
energy resources. It calls for the modernization and 
coordination of exploration methodologies, and supports the 
development of data-driven policies that promote safe, 
efficient, and responsible resource development.
    BOEM welcomes the objectives of the CORE Act and recognizes 
the value of enhanced interagency coordination and improved 
transparency in offshore resource evaluation. BOEM would 
welcome the opportunity to work with the Subcommittee and the 
bill's sponsor on technical aspects of the bill.
    The Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025 seeks to restore 
access to approximately 625 million acres that prior executive 
action had withdrawn from energy development.
    As drafted, the Act would nullify certain OCS withdrawals 
put in place by former Presidents Obama and Biden, and 
subsequently rescinded by President Trump. The Act also places 
limitations on future withdrawals by placing limits on how much 
acreage a president can withdraw, limiting the time frame of 
future withdrawals to no more than 20 years, and ensuring that 
such decisions are grounded in thorough geological, economic, 
and national security assessments.
    BOEM strongly supports overturning the OCS administrative 
withdrawals that unnecessarily impede American energy 
development and generally supports the intent of the Offshore 
Lands Authorities Act to establish a more predictable framework 
for offshore resource management to enhance regulatory 
certainty, encourage investment, and promote long-term planning 
in offshore energy development.
    As BOEM carries out its mission, we remain committed to 
meeting the high standards of this administration and Congress. 
Expanding offshore energy capabilities is vital to providing 
affordable energy for American consumers, creating high-paying 
jobs and reducing our dependence on foreign adversaries.
    On a personal note, I have lost count of the number of 
times I have sat at this table over the years, but this will 
likely be my last. It has always been an honor to appear before 
this Subcommittee and to work with its staff, and I am 
sincerely grateful for the support the Subcommittee has 
provided to our various programs to ensure that the Nation's 
energy and mineral resources are responsibly managed to the 
benefit of the American people.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify today, and I would 
be pleased to answer any questions that you may have.
    [The prepared statement of Dr. Cruickshank follows:]
   Prepared Statement of Dr. Walter D. Cruickshank, Acting Director, 
   Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, U.S. Department of the Interior

Introduction
    Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today 
to discuss H.R. 2556, Comprehensive Offshore Resource Evaluation (CORE) 
Act of 2025, and H.R. 513, Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025.
    From his first day in office, President Trump has prioritized the 
revitalization of domestic energy production to stimulate economic 
growth and strengthen our national security. His Executive Order 14154, 
Unleashing American Energy, reaffirms the national interest in 
maximizing the use of affordable, reliable domestic energy resources. 
The order establishes a clear policy directive: to promote energy 
exploration and production on federal lands and waters, including the 
Outer Continental Shelf (OCS), to meet the needs of the American people 
and solidify U.S. global energy leadership for generations to come.
    As the federal OCS steward, the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management 
(BOEM) plays a central role in implementing this policy. Our mission is 
to manage the development of the Nation's offshore energy and mineral 
resources in an economically and environmentally responsible manner. We 
achieve this through leasing and plan approval programs for offshore 
oil, gas, and marine minerals, ensuring that resource development is 
balanced with environmental stewardship and public engagement.
    By expanding access to OCS energy resources, BOEM supports the 
Administration's goal of strengthening domestic energy security, 
creating high-quality jobs, and bolstering American energy 
independence.
Offshore Oil and Gas Development
    Offshore energy development is a vital component of U.S. national 
security and a critical driver of American prosperity. Offshore 
activities support hundreds of thousands of jobs and provide a 
significant share of U.S. energy production.
    Last month, at the direction of Secretary of the Interior Doug 
Burgum, BOEM issued a Request for Information and Comments (an RFI), 
the first step in the development of the 11th National OCS Oil and Gas 
Leasing Program. The RFI marks the beginning of a multi-year process 
that involves robust public engagement and multiple rounds of detailed 
analysis for the Secretary to consider when rendering his final Program 
decision.
    While we remain committed to completing the three Gulf of America 
lease sales outlined in the current 2024-2029 National OCS Program, we 
are moving forward with developing a new schedule that aligns with the 
President's directive to maximize the use of OCS energy resources.
    As of May 1, 2025, BOEM manages over 2,200 active offshore oil and 
gas leases, covering approximately 12 million acres. In Fiscal Year 
2024, these leases generated $7 billion in revenue, produced 
approximately 667.5 million barrels of oil and 700 billion cubic feet 
of natural gas, accounting for 14% of domestic oil production and 2% of 
natural gas production--predominantly from the Gulf of America.
National Resource Assessments
    BOEM conducts a formal National Assessment of Undiscovered 
Technically Recoverable Resources (UTRR) and Undiscovered Economically 
Recoverable Resources (UERR) every five years. This assessment informs 
energy policy and contributes to the comprehensive inventory reports 
submitted to Congress.
    UTRR estimates reflect undiscovered volumes of oil and gas that 
could be produced using conventional technologies, while UERR 
represents the subset considered economically viable under current 
market and technological conditions.
    BOEM's most recent assessment, completed in 2021, estimated a mean 
UTRR volume of 68.79 billion barrels of oil and 229.03 trillion cubic 
feet of gas across the entire OCS. Preparations for the 2026 assessment 
are already underway, incorporating the latest geologic, geophysical, 
and economic data to ensure accuracy and transparency.
    Earlier this year, BOEM announced a significant increase in 
discovered oil and gas reserves in the Gulf of America OCS. BOEM's 
updated assessment evaluated over 140 oil and gas fields, identifying 
18 new discoveries and analyzing more than 37,000 reservoirs across 
1,336 fields in the Gulf. This comprehensive review added 1.30 billion 
barrels of oil equivalent since 2021, bringing the total discovered 
reserve estimate to 7.04 billion barrels of oil equivalent. This 
includes 5.77 billion barrels of oil and 7.15 trillion cubic feet of 
natural gas--a 22.6% increase in remaining recoverable reserves.
CORE Act of 2025
    The Comprehensive Offshore Resource Evaluation Act of 2025 aims to 
strengthen U.S. national energy security by mandating a standardized 
recurring assessment and mapping of offshore energy resources. It calls 
for the modernization and coordination of exploration methodologies and 
supports the development of data-driven policies that promote safe, 
efficient, and responsible resource development.
    BOEM welcomes the objectives of the CORE Act and recognizes the 
value of enhanced interagency coordination and improved transparency in 
offshore resource evaluation. BOEM would welcome the opportunity to 
work with the Subcommittee and sponsor on technical aspects of the 
bill.
Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025
    The Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025 seeks to restore access 
to approximately 625 million acres that prior executive actions had 
withdrawn from energy development. As drafted, the Act would nullify 
certain OCS withdrawals put in place by former Presidents Obama and 
Biden and subsequently rescinded by President Trump. The Act also 
places limitations on future withdrawals by (1) capping any individual 
withdrawal at 150,000 acres; (2) limiting the timeframe of future 
withdrawals to no more than 20 years; and (3) ensuring that such 
decisions are grounded in thorough geological, economic, and national 
security assessments. The Act would also limit each President to no 
more than a cumulative 500,000 acres of total withdrawals without 
obtaining Congressional approval.
    BOEM strongly supports overturning the OCS administrative 
withdrawals that unnecessarily impede American energy development, and 
generally supports the intent of the Offshore Lands Authorities Act to 
establish a more predictable framework for offshore resource management 
to enhance regulatory certainty, encourage investment, and promote 
long-term planning in offshore energy development.
Conclusion
    As BOEM carries out its mission, we remain committed to meeting the 
high standards of this Administration and Congress. Expanding offshore 
energy capabilities is vital to providing affordable energy for 
American consumers, creating high-paying jobs, and reducing our 
dependence on foreign adversaries.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify today. I would be pleased 
to answer any questions you may have.

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 Questions Submitted for the Record by the Hon. Daniel Webster to Dr. 
Walter Cruickshank, Acting Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, 
                    U.S. Department of the Interior

Dr. Walter Cruickshank did not submit responses to the Committee by the 
appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

    Question 1. Florida's first offshore pipeline--more than 580 miles 
long, including 431 miles underwater--delivers up to 1.1 billion cubic 
feet of clean-burning natural gas every day, enough to power 4.5 
million homes. It was built by 2,500 workers over the course of a year 
and is a major backbone of our state's energy reliability. Given that a 
majority of this supply comes from offshore production in the central 
and western Gulf, don't you think it's critical that we maintain 
accurate and science-based assessments of those offshore resources, as 
required in the CORE Act, to ensure Florida's continued access to 
affordable and reliable energy?
  Questions Submitted for the Record by the Hon. Sarah Elfreth to Dr. 
Walter Cruickshank, Acting Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, 
                    U.S. Department of the Interior

Dr. Walter Cruickshank did not submit responses to the Committee by the 
appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

    Question 1. The Department of Defense published a report in 2015 
entitled DoD Mission Compatibility Planning Assessment: BOEM 2017-2022 
Outer Continental Shelf Oil and Gas Leasing Draft Proposed Program. Has 
BOEM received an updated report from the Department of Defense on 
offshore leasing related to military installations? If so, please 
attach a copy.

    Question 2. BOEM and the Department of the Defense operate under a 
Memorandum of Understanding on waters adjacent to military 
installations. What is the status of the most recent MOU?

    Question 3. In this current planning cycle, what is the timeline 
for engagement with the Department of the Defense?
 Questions Submitted for the Record by the Hon. Yassamin Ansari to Dr. 
Walter Cruickshank, Acting Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, 
                    U.S. Department of the Interior

Dr. Walter Cruickshank did not submit responses to the Committee by the 
appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

    Question 1. Dr. Cruickshank, in response to my question during the 
hearing for an update on how many staff at the Bureau of Ocean Energy 
Management have taken the buyout or early retirement offers, you 
responded ``in the neighborhood of 100 people''. Could you please 
provide a more detailed response on the number of people who have taken 
the buyout, early retirement offers, or been fired at BOEM since the 
beginning of this administration? What proportion of total BOEM staff 
does that comprise? What program functions did these staff cover? Are 
there plans to backfill these vacancies and if so, which ones?

    Question 2. In response to my question about your engagement with 
DOGE employees, you responded that your engagement was largely focused 
on contracts and which contracts should be terminated and which should 
be continued. Who had the final decision-making authority on contract 
continuation, BOEM or DOGE? Can you provide a more detailed description 
of the process for deciding which contracts to terminate, a full list 
of the terminated contracts, and the provided justification for 
termination?
  Questions Submitted for the Record by the Hon. Jared Huffman to Dr. 
Walter Cruickshank, Acting Director, Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, 
                    U.S. Department of the Interior

Dr. Walter Cruickshank did not submit responses to the Committee by the 
appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

    Question 1. President Trump's January 20th memorandum, ``Temporary 
Withdrawal of All Areas on the Outer Continental Shelf from Offshore 
Wind Leasing and Review of the Federal Government's Leasing and 
Permitting Practices for Wind Projects,'' (90 FR 8363) claims ``various 
alleged legal deficiencies underlying the Federal Government's leasing 
and permitting of onshore and offshore wind projects'' and ``potential 
inadequacies in various environmental reviews required by the National 
Environmental Policy Act to lease or permit wind projects''. Please 
identify the alleged legal deficiencies and potential inadequacies in 
environmental reviews.

    Question 2. The review of the offshore wind leasing and permitting 
process initiated by this memorandum has been underway for over four 
months with no substantive updates. How is BOEM proceeding with this 
review, what is the agency considering in its review, and what is the 
expected timeline for completion?

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    Mr. Ezell. Thank you sir and thank you for your service to 
this country. The Chair now recognizes the gentleman from 
Louisiana, Mr. Higgins, for his 5 minutes of questioning.
    Mr. Higgins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I appreciate your 
assessment.
    Doctor, would you mind just speaking to what the, 
respectful of inquiries from across the aisle and sort of the 
narrative of opening up leasing, one of the common refrains 
that we address at town halls and et cetera is that, what about 
the claim that some leases remain unused?
    And I have to clarify regarding the inconsistency and that 
the withdrawal of lands had created, and the requirement for 
reliable commitment and contractually with exploration and 
potential extraction, there is time and money involved here, 
and it is not easy to move forward with a lease if there is no 
stability in the considered areas.
    And so, the investment to explore, identify, and extract 
requires a stable leasing environment. And from your position, 
I realize you would be limited perhaps in how you can speak to 
this, but I would like you to address that, the difference 
between where we were and where we are going with the stability 
of offshore leasing and what it would mean to the American 
energy industry and therefore to the American economy.
    Dr. Cruickshank. Yes, sir, I will start by saying that the 
information on leases we make available identifies the number 
of leases that have been issued and the numbers that are 
producing. That does not mean the non-producing leases do not 
have activity on them. There is a great deal of work that goes 
into bringing a lease to the point where it can produce in 
terms of exploring what is underneath the seabed; understanding 
what is on the seabed, as well; drilling wells to determine if 
there is anything underground; and additional wells to fully 
delineate any discovery. And only then beginning to design what 
a development project may look like. So, it can take 5 to 10 or 
more years to bring a lease into production.
    And so many of the non-producing leases actually have quite 
a lot of activity on them, and others are part of companies' 
portfolios that would allow them to act based on new 
information and new technologies as they become available.
    To compare where we were to where we are, we are currently 
implementing the 5-year leasing program of the previous 
administration that called for three lease sales in the Gulf of 
America across 5 years. The President has made it clear that he 
does not believe that is a sufficient number of lease sales, 
and we have started the process to develop a new schedule of 
oil and gas leasing.
    I cannot say at this time how many lease sales will be in 
that program. That is something that will be determined over 
the course of the process. But we are undergoing the process 
now to put together a new schedule.
    Mr. Higgins. It is a fascinating business to, when you 
really study what is required by the industry to explore and 
identify fields, and then to prepare for extraction, and then 
extraction and transport, it takes a lot to move our energy 
product from the, you know, far below the surface of the of 
ocean floor to a reliable and clean and affordable and abundant 
product in our homes and in our vehicles. And the stability of 
the leasing environment is crucial for that journey to begin.
    And I would ask you to just comment, because of your 
background, you know people in the industry. And what is the 
level of confidence now, since January, and with the enactment 
of bills like my bill, H.R. 513, to restabilize and to secure 
the leasing environment? What is the level of optimism in the 
American energy industry?
    Dr. Cruickshank. I believe the oil and gas industry is 
optimistic. They have been very much engaged with us since 
January in sharing their opinions of things they think ought to 
be done, and providing their input, and really saying that they 
are pleased about the direction things seem to be headed.
    Mr. Higgins. I concur, Doctor.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My time has expired. I thank you 
again for allowing me to waive on, and I yield.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields. The Chair now recognizes 
the gentleman from New Jersey, Mr. Pallone, for his 5 minutes 
of questioning.
    Mr. Pallone. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to thank 
the Ranking Member also for inviting me to participate today.
    I should say that I served on this Committee for almost 30 
years, and I looked around at the name plates. I don't think 
anybody was on the Committee when I started in 1988, so it is 
nice to be back.
    But today's hearing on H.R. 513, the Offshore Lands 
Authorities Act, is of critical importance to my district at 
the Jersey Shore. You see, the waters off New Jersey and all 
the Atlantic states from Florida to Maine are protected from 
oil and gas drilling right now. And this happened because both 
Presidents Trump and Biden recognized the vital importance of 
the East Coast's existing economy to the well-being of 
Americans nationwide. And the Atlantic coast relies on a clean 
and thriving marine environment. It is basically the foundation 
for major industry and for small businesses in our State, and 
the Atlantic coast beaches and bays are where we take our 
families to recreate and relax. We are obviously looking 
forward to Memorial Day weekend.
    But the Jersey Shore's economy and way of life depends on a 
clean environment, but that is not just New Jersey. In every 
East Coast State residents have agreed that offshore oil and 
gas development does not belong on the Atlantic coast. And we 
saw what happened years ago with the BP oil spill, where the 
Gulf Coast tourism was really destroyed for a long time, and 
the spill actually went all the way around the Florida's East 
Coast.
    And at the end of his first term, President Trump used the 
Outer Continental Shelf Lands Authority Act to protect Florida 
to North Carolina from oil and gas development. I think that 
was a good thing. But one oil spill, even in North Carolina, 
would destroy New Jersey's fishing and tourism industry. So, 
President Biden went even further, and protected the Atlantic. 
And again, this was a good thing.
    The problem is that H.R. 513 revokes all the withdrawals 
ordered by Presidents Biden and Obama, even though it leaves in 
place the withdrawal from North Carolina to Florida that was 
ordered by President Trump. And of course, I oppose it, because 
right now, all of the Atlantic coast is closed to offshore oil 
and gas drilling. So, I wanted to ask the director, really, two 
questions.
    And you can answer them together separately if you like, 
sir. In the recently posted 5-year oil and gas leasing plan 
documents shared with the public by BOEM, it calls for new 
seismic surveys in the Atlantic. So, Dr. Cruickshank, wanted to 
ask two questions.
    Is the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management planning to issue 
permits for seismic testing for offshore oil and gas in the 
Atlantic, which, of course, I oppose?
    And then second, can you commit that the Bureau will not 
include offshore oil and gas lease sales in the Atlantic in the 
next 5-year plan?
    Those are my two questions.
    Dr. Cruickshank. Thank you, Congressman, and I have been at 
this table while you were a member of the Committee, so I 
remember conversing with you before.
    But at the current time we have no permits before us 
seeking to do seismic activity in the Atlantic. And if at any 
time we receive such a permit, we would review it under our 
standard practices. But there is nothing pending right now.
    With respect to future lease sales, we are just starting 
the process of getting public input on the development of a new 
program. There is a lot of work to go before the Secretary even 
proposes his first schedule of possible lease sales. And there 
will be three set schedules put out before a program is 
finalized. So, it is far too premature to be able to talk about 
what may be in or not in the next program.
    Mr. Pallone. Well, I guess what I don't understand, I am 
going to ask you a third question now, is if right now the law 
says there is no offshore oil and gas leasing permitted on the 
Atlantic coast, why would you even entertain, if someone came 
forth asking for a permit for seismic testing or to do offshore 
oil and gas sales lease, why would you even entertain that, 
given that the current law says that those are not allowed?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Under the OCS Lands Act, when we start the 
process we provide the Secretary information on every planning 
area, regardless of its current legal status, so that he can do 
the balancing that is called for under that act in coming up 
with his proposals.
    We also know that the status of any particular area can 
change. Obviously, we would not hold a lease sale in an area 
where the law says we cannot do so, but the Secretary has the 
ability to consider the potential of areas just in case the 
legal standing of areas changes over time.
    Mr. Pallone. Well, my time is almost up, Mr. Chairman, but 
I just want to say again that the possibility of either seismic 
testing or the drilling is extremely alarming to me, and I know 
to my constituents, and we would obviously oppose it.
    So, thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the opportunity.
    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields. I now recognize myself for 
5 minutes.
    After the past few months, the United States is finally 
seeing positive change to unleashing our country's energy 
production. From the harmful Biden EOs we are overturning and 
new policies coming out of the Trump administration through 
today's hearing, jobs are being restored, businesses are 
beginning to thrive again, and we are on track to energy 
independence once again. Our Nation will no longer be dependent 
on foreign adversaries for our everyday necessities.
    Dr. Cruickshank, you state in your testimony that 1.3 
billion barrels of oil have been added after realizing new 
reserves across fields in the Gulf of America. How is it from 
2021 to 2025 the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management, BOEM, added 
1.3 billion barrels of oil equivalent, but from 2016 to 2021 
reports issued under Biden that BOEM seems to have lost 18 
billion barrels and 86 trillion cubic feet of gas?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Mr. Chairman, the two numbers are a little 
bit like comparing apples to oranges.
    Voice. Turn your mic on.
    Dr. Cruickshank. The increase of the, I am sorry, Mr. 
Chairman, it is a little bit like comparing apples and oranges, 
the two sets of numbers. The first numbers you were talking 
about talked about the proven reserves, the amount of oil that 
had actually been discovered over time, and we took a look at 
the various new discoveries across the Gulf of Mexico in 
particular and found that those discoveries had proven 1.3 
billion barrels of oil equivalent since 2021. But that is based 
on the actual drilling results and discoveries.
    The other number you were talking about was an estimate of 
undiscovered resources, things that had yet to be found. The 
last national assessment that was done of undiscovered 
resources took a look at all the latest information, and was 
smaller than the one before, in part because of discoveries 
that moved things from the undiscovered bucket to the 
discovered bucket, but in part also because there were a lot of 
disappointing exploration results in the 5 years since the 
previous assessment which caused our geologists and experts to 
think some of the plays may not be as prolific as they had 
previously estimated.
    But recognize those estimates are a snapshot in time. As we 
get more information from additional drilling, as new 
technologies become available that make more things technically 
recoverable that may not be now, those numbers can change a 
great deal. And as an example of that, I will note that when I 
first started out there was nothing in more than about 400 
meters of water considered technically recoverable. But we now 
know that much deeper waters are the source of the majority of 
production in the Gulf of America.
    Mr. Ezell. In four years, you found 1.3 billion barrels of 
oil equivalent from recoverable reserves. But in 5 years of 
Democrat-led reports, BOEM lost 14.8 trillion barrels of oil 
equivalent. Are you telling me that 14 billion barrels of oil 
were produced from 2016 to 2021?
    Dr. Cruickshank. No, sir. That is simply a reduction in our 
estimate of what remained to be discovered on the OCS. There 
were bits of it that were discovered, but more of it had to do 
with the disappointing exploration results and some of the 
plays, leading archeologists to estimate that they had less 
potential than they previously thought.
    Mr. Ezell. Did the hydrocarbon seep out of the ocean floor?
    Dr. Cruickshank. There are natural s in the ocean, but 
that has nothing to do with the estimates that were made.
    Mr. Ezell. My main question is can political appointees 
provide input in these report's findings before they are 
published?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Generally, no, that does not occur.
    Mr. Ezell. Could a Biden administration official have said, 
let's take the lowest estimate possible and make that our 
number?
    Dr. Cruickshank. We received no such input. Our experts put 
together a range, and the number that you were quoting was the 
mean of that range of estimates.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you very much.
    Ms. Elfreth, you are recognized for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Elfreth. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    I want to start by agreeing with many of the concerns 
addressed by my colleague from New Jersey, particularly as we 
talk about seismic testing and offshore drilling, the 
potential, very real potential, for environmental harm, based 
on what we know happened in the Gulf of Mexico.
    I also want to just say that neither of these two bills 
would guarantee that any of the oil and gas produced from this 
offshore drilling would actually benefit the energy or the 
pocketbooks of my constituents.
    But I want to hone in here, Mr. Cruickshank, on a very real 
national security threat I view that these bills pose. First, 
though, I do want to thank you for being here and thank you for 
your decades-long career in public service. And I hope this 
might be the last time I see you, but I thank you for, an early 
congratulations on your retirement.
    But during this Committee's reconciliation markup just a 
few weeks ago I offered an amendment that would ensure any 
offshore oil and gas leases were not offered in areas 
designated by the Department of Defense as an impediment to 
military readiness and national security. And it is pretty 
simple why. Even if everything on a drilling site goes 
according to plan, the mere presence of these rigs and the 
pollution they produce could cause immediate threats to our 
service members, and that is just not a risk I am willing to 
take.
    Mr. Cruickshank, in 2015 the Department of Defense issued a 
report entitled, ``DOD Mission Compatibility Planning 
Assessment in BOEM 2017 to 2022 Outer Continental Shelf Oil and 
Gas Leasing Draft Proposed Program.''
    Mr. Chair, I would like to submit a copy of this report for 
the record.
    Mr. Ezell. Without objection.
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    Ms. Elfreth. Thank you.
    In this report the DOD analyzed offshore lease blocks, 
analyzed each block's role in activities critical for military 
readiness and national security, and determined what, if any, 
level of drilling activity can be done without impeding their 
work. Mr. Cruickshank, are you familiar with the report I just 
referenced?
    Dr. Cruickshank. I did see it at the time. I don't remember 
the details.
    Ms. Elfreth. OK. Well, I am happy to dig in here. Our 
military relies on obviously accessible and unimpeded waterways 
to conduct military exercises and, again, if needed, defend our 
country from attack. So, Mr. Cruickshank, is Interior or BOEM 
implementing any of the recommendations from this report?
    I know you are kind of familiar, but in the recent work 
have you been matching these or implementing the 
recommendations from this report into what you are working on 
right now?
    Dr. Cruickshank. What we do at the start of the development 
of any 5-year program is we reach out to the Department of 
Defense and get their input as it exists today, because from 
year to year their needs change and their requirements change. 
So, we will work closely with them in understanding what areas 
are of concern to them.
    Ms. Elfreth. Have you heard from them in this recent go-
round?
    Dr. Cruickshank. No. Right now, we just have our first 
round of public comment out. But before we publish any sort of 
schedule, we will be getting input from them.
    Ms. Elfreth. OK. Mr. Chair, just again for the record, I 
have areas under consideration from BOEM's website and there is 
no current mention of military defense or even input from the 
Navy. Could I submit this for the record, please?
    Mr. Ezell. Without objection.
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    Ms. Elfreth. Thank you.
    Due to the necessary and sensitive work of military 
installations, all the blocks, as I mentioned, that overlay 
east and west coasts are classified by DOD in this report, are 
either requiring total prohibition or very specific conditions 
for those leasings. Mr. Cruickshank, does Interior or BOEM 
intend to follow the recommendations from the 2015 study?
    Or, if you do get new recommendations based on this current 
DOD, what is the plan to follow those recommendations?
    Dr. Cruickshank. We will work with the Department of 
Defense to understand what the requirements are now, to 
understand what areas are truly incompatible and what is going 
to be, and which can be addressed through mitigation, and we 
will work with them to put forward a proposal for public 
consideration.
    Ms. Elfreth. OK. I would like to request, Mr. Chair, that 
Mr. Cruickshank keep us, this Subcommittee, involved in those 
discussions as they can move forward, either in writing or in 
person.
    Mr. Ezell. Yes.
    Ms. Elfreth. Thank you very much. OK.
    So again, just, this is of deep concern for all the reasons 
I mentioned, but this needs to be a priority for this 
administration. Again, we cannot sacrifice our national 
security or our readiness for offshore drilling that, again, 
poses other challenges. It is my sincere hope that the 
administration will implement either the 2015 plan, which I 
think is very thoroughly executed, or any updates to that plan 
that, again, meet our critical need for readiness.
    And with that, Mr. Chair, I will yield back.
    Mr. Stauber [presiding]. OK, I will yield to Representative 
Hurd 5 minutes of questioning.
    Mr. Hurd. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Dr. Cruickshank, good afternoon. H.R. 2556 would require 
BOEM to modernize its offshore resource assessments by using AI 
and seismic surveys and other advanced tools not only to better 
estimate energy and critical mineral resources, but also to 
project the economic benefits of development like job creation 
and Federal or State revenues. Outdated models risk under-
estimating resources, which could lead to less interest in 
lease sales in these areas and discourage investment in the 
United States.
    Can you talk to us about how the CORE Act's requirement for 
peer-reviewed modern analyses help quantify the full economic 
value of offshore development, particularly in terms of GDP, 
job creation, and billions in potential State and Federal 
revenue?
    Dr. Cruickshank. I believe what the peer-reviewed, the CORE 
Act called for is over the geologic modeling itself in coming 
up with the estimates, and that is something we are accustomed 
to doing. We have gone to the Society of Petroleum Engineers 
before to have their expert committees peer review our 
methodologies for coming up with those resource estimates.
    The models that we use then to estimate economic benefits 
that may come from development of those resources are made 
publicly available, usually through the development of the 5-
year program, and we receive comments from across the board on 
those.
    Mr. Hurd. Could this lead to more targeted and economically 
strategic leasing decisions?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Better information can always assist us in 
making better decisions.
    Mr. Hurd. OK. And in what areas, geographic or 
technological, do you see the greatest potential for unlocking 
resources?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Well, right now, if you look at where we 
have estimated the undiscovered resources to be, the majority 
are in the Gulf of America or offshore Alaska.
    Mr. Hurd. And can you think of any new strategies that BOEM 
could use to unlock untapped offshore assets and strengthen 
America's position in global markets?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Generally, the main tool at our disposal 
is to make areas available for the private industry to explore.
    Mr. Hurd. OK. Thank you very much for your testimony today, 
and congratulations on this being your final hearing.
    So, with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair now recognizes 
Representative Rivas from California's 29th district.
    You are recognized for 5 minutes of questioning.
    Ms. Rivas. Thank you, Mr. Chair, for recognizing me.
    As we saw during our reconciliation markup, my Republican 
colleagues and President Trump are pushing for at least 30 
offshore oil and gas lease sales over the next 15 years, and 6 
lease sales off the coast of Alaska. They are ripping away 
sorely-needed funding to agencies like BOEM and NOAA which 
provide resources and research for our local economies and 
ensure our environment is protected for all. They are stripping 
away the ability of judicial review and key provisions of NEPA 
that give underserved communities a voice. They are even 
mandating a protest filing fee if any member from these 
communities has an issue with their projects.
    These efforts are just some of many meant to dirty our 
water, pollute our air, and silence our communities. I think 
about what this means for frontline environmental justice 
communities like mine in the San Fernando Valley, those in the 
Central Valley of California, and in Cancer Alley on the Gulf 
Coast. Can you commit to ensuring comprehensive community 
consultation on the oil and gas leases that BOEM will oversee. 
Yes, or no?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Yes, the program development process 
really requires robust public participation throughout. There 
are three different periods where we get public input on what 
we should be looking at and what we should be analyzing, and we 
take those comments very seriously.
    Ms. Rivas. So, you are saying that there will continue to 
be community input in environmental justice communities around 
these leases, oil and gas leases.
    Dr. Cruickshank. All of the public, all communities are 
welcome to participate as we develop the next program.
    Ms. Rivas. OK. You know, I think that, for decades, these 
communities have been burdened with these hazardous industries, 
with high cancer and asthma rates. I think it is very important 
to continue to allow the communities to speak out and not 
shorten this process in any way, or for there to be a way to 
get out of it like I felt was happening during our markup in 
the bill. And, you know, I just want to make sure that, you 
know, we take these communities' input into consideration on 
these issues.
    So, I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. I will now recognize our 
Ranking Member, Representative Ansari, for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you.
    Dr. Cruickshank, I would like to ask about some extremely 
concerning reports out of the Gulf about a recent major oil 
spill. According to CBS news a leak was first reported as a 
``well blowout,'' with witnesses later describing a geyser of 
oil shooting 30 to 40 feet into the air. The same reporting 
raises serious concerns about how DOGE cuts could hurt oil 
spill response. We have one of these former NOAA staff members 
from the Emergency Response Division here today to testify on 
the next panel.
    Since the beginning of this year, reporting has found that 
around 2,000 employees from NOAA have been laid off or taken 
early retirement, including members of the team who directly 
respond to oil spills. Beyond NOAA, I am extremely concerned 
with the huge numbers of staff at the Department of the 
Interior who have taken the deferred resignation program, and 
reports that Tyler Hassen, a former oil field services 
executive and member of DOGE, is managing plans to conduct 
these large-scale layoffs. These are staff that run essential 
programs and services like offshore oil and gas safety 
inspections and enforcement for incidents like this most recent 
spill and others like the USGS Hazards Program, which we are 
looking to reauthorize on a bipartisan basis here today that 
protect communities from landslides, earthquakes, and 
volcanoes.
    Mr. Cruickshank, I want to make clear that I am grateful to 
career staff like you who have served to carry out the goals of 
the president, regardless of who that president may be. You 
carried out the objectives of President Biden, and now you are 
carrying out the work and objectives of President Trump. With 
that in mind, I would like to ask a few questions.
    In addition to your role as Acting Director of the Bureau 
of Ocean Energy Management, you served as Acting Assistant 
Secretary for Land and Minerals Management from February 28 to 
April 10. In this role, in addition to BOEM, you oversaw the 
Bureau of Land Management, the Office of Surface Mining 
Reclamation and Enforcement, and, importantly, the Bureau of 
Safety and Environmental Enforcement. Dr. Cruickshank, did you 
engage with any DOGE employees during your time as Assistant 
Secretary or in your current role as Acting Director of BOEM, 
and can you briefly describe your engagement?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Yes, my engagement was largely in terms of 
representing BOEM in talking with them. And during the period 
that you mentioned, the focus was really on contracts at that 
point, and what contracts should be terminated, and which ones 
should be continued.
    Ms. Ansari. And can you please provide us with an update on 
how many staff at the Bureau of Ocean Energy Management have 
taken buyout or early retirement offers?
    Dr. Cruickshank. We don't have a final number on that yet, 
but it is in the neighborhood of 100 people.
    Ms. Ansari. And how many employees took the buyout, early 
retirement, or were fired at the Bureau of Safety and 
Environmental Enforcement while you oversaw the department from 
February 28 to April 10?
    Dr. Cruickshank. I do not know the numbers for BSEE. Those 
numbers really would have been revealed after I was no longer 
Acting Assistant Secretary.
    Ms. Ansari. OK. And Dr. Cruickshank, can you confirm that 
no staff responsible for essential services like offshore 
safety and enforcement will be laid off as part of the agency's 
reduction in force?
    Dr. Cruickshank. I have not seen the workplace efficiency 
plan as yet. As you know, there is a temporary restraining 
order that has kept that from being circulated within the 
department. So, I don't know what is in that, but I know that 
the department has as a priority making sure that operations 
offshore are done safely, and making sure there is an adequate 
workforce to be able to do that.
    Ms. Ansari. Dr. Cruickshank, I just want to say I really 
appreciate your career service, and I appreciate each of the 
career employees who have taken early retirement or the buyout 
or who have been unfairly fired. I understand, Dr. Cruickshank, 
that you are an institutionalist, and are probably personally 
just as alarmed as I am that 24-year-old DOGE employees are 
gutting your department. We should all be alarmed by what this 
administration is doing to undercut Federal service, and there 
will be a time when we have to rebuild BOEM after this, and it 
will be significantly harder because you are not there.
    I also, you know, across both sides of the aisle I think we 
can all agree that electricity demand is growing. According to 
a recent S&P global report, U.S. electricity and demand is 
expected to surge up to 50 percent by 2040 due to the growth of 
data centers, new manufacturing, and electric trends. 
Regardless of how you feel about any one kind of energy 
production or another, offshore wind, which your department 
oversees, will be one of the fastest ways to meet this demand.
    Really, but there are multiple other projects in limbo, 
projects that have invested significantly in the U.S. and have 
meaningful energy generation potential. Why would we slow down 
these domestic energy projects if the U.S. cannot afford to 
wait for energy security?
    Dr. Cruickshank. So, I think that our task is both to try 
and move forward with energy development, but also to do so in 
an environmentally responsible way. That is what our statutes 
call for. And it is the responsibility of the Secretary of the 
Interior to take a look at his programs. And if he sees 
information that suggests that some things may be out of line 
with what the laws call for, that it is OK to take a pause and 
take a look and make sure that everything is as it should be 
before letting them continue.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you.
    Mr. Stauber. All right. Thank you very much.
    Dr. Cruickshank, I think you had mentioned that this is 
your last hearing. I am actually privileged to be the last 
person to have a conversation with you officially.
    First off, I do want to recognize your professional career 
as a, 40-plus years in the Interior. I will tell you that you 
came to one of the committees, and I was asking you some 
questions, and I had done my homework. You supported what 
President Trump was doing, 45, and then supporting what 
President Biden wanted done. They were philosophically 
different. And when I asked you why you, why change, and you 
said you were just following the leadership from the elected 
people, what the elected president wanted. It actually shocked 
me in a good way, that you weren't putting your own opinions, 
you were following what you were asked to do in a professional 
and a safe manner.
    And I think, as you leave your 40 years, I think there is 
many, many people not only in Congress but the people that you 
have worked with, you have left something and you instilled in 
something that is so valuable as an employee, a professional 
employee within our government and Interior and your knowledge, 
and I just want to say thank you for what you did. And I wish 
you the best in retirement. You, of course, being questioned so 
many times by Members of Congress, you have earned it. And so, 
I will end up with just some of my questions here.
    The section 12(a) OCSLA was never intended to permanently 
lock away offshore resources, yet presidential withdrawals have 
attempted indefinite bans on hundreds of millions of acres and 
regions containing known oil and gas resources without regard 
for future needs or technology. H.R. 513 would limit the size 
and duration of withdrawals and require economic energy and 
security impact assessments before a future withdrawal moves 
forward.
    In your view, how could permanent closures impact future 
generations in terms of lost revenue, energy security, and 
technological opportunities?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Well, you know, depending on what areas 
are put aside and the reasons they are put aside for, clearly 
if you are permanently withdrawing high resource potential 
areas from leasing and development, then you are foregoing a 
lot of potential investment, a lot of potential income.
    Mr. Stauber. For the future.
    Dr. Cruickshank. Yes.
    Mr. Stauber. And do you believe requiring an updated 
resource assessment before withdrawal as the bill proposes 
better balances conservation with future access?
    Dr. Cruickshank. Yes, I think that mandating what has 
generally been the practice where we provide a lot of 
information on what we know about an area is important for 
making sound decisions.
    Mr. Stauber. I can't stress enough how important I believe 
this part of the legislation is, the requirement for an 
economic and resource assessment to be completed prior to a 
withdrawal. If an administration is going to take s to 
institute withdrawal, the American people deserve to have a 
full understanding of its impact.
    And in my opening statement, I mentioned that the former 
Secretary of the Interior, Secretary Haaland, had no idea when 
she banned mining in 225,000 acres of the biggest untapped 
copper nickel find in the world in the district that I am 
privileged to represent, Minnesota's 8th congressional 
district, the Duluth Complex, in a Senate hearing, she said she 
had no idea there were critical minerals in there. I think it 
was so irresponsible for her to do that when we need those 
critical minerals. Again, the biggest untapped copper nickel 
find in the world, the Duluth Complex in northeastern 
Minnesota.
    We need those critical minerals. We can lead the world not 
only in oil and gas extraction, but critical minerals and so 
much more, and I am really looking forward to having this piece 
of legislation not only pass this Committee, but get signed 
into law. It is good for the American people, and it is good 
stewardship of our oceans and our lands.
    So, with that, Mr. Cruickshank, I am done questioning. I 
will give you, this normally doesn't happen, but I will give 
you 30 seconds to wrap up, maybe a minute to wrap up your 
career.
    [Laughter.]
    Dr. Cruickshank. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate that 
opportunity. And I appreciate the kind words that you and 
others of the Committee have had. It is, 40 years is a long 
time to be working in one building, but it is, I believe in the 
mission of the department, I believe in the mission of BOEM, 
all parts of that mission. And it has really been a pleasure 
for me to work with this Subcommittee over the years to try and 
make sure that we continue to improve upon what we do. So, I 
appreciate all the support that the Subcommittee has given us 
over those years. Thank you.
    Mr. Stauber. Well said. Thank you.
    If there are no further questions, we will now move on to, 
no, I have got to find where I am here. OK. If there are no 
further questions, we will now move on to the third panel. I 
would like to thank the witness for his valuable testimony.
    You are now dismissed. While the clerk resets our witness 
table, I will remind the witness that under Committee rules, 
they must limit their oral statements to 5 minutes, but their 
entire statement will appear in the hearing record.
    I would also like to remind our witnesses of the timing 
lights which will turn red at the end of your 5-minute 
statement, and to please remember to turn on your microphones.
    As with the second panel, I will allow all witnesses to 
testify before the member questioning.
    [Pause.]
    Mr. Stauber. Our first witness is Mr. Parker Phipps, and he 
is the President and CEO of Signal Peak Energy. And he is 
stationed in Roundup, Montana.
    Mr. Phipps, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

  STATEMENT OF PARKER PHIPPS, PRESIDENT AND CEO, SIGNAL PEAK 
                    ENERGY, ROUNDUP, MONTANA

    Mr. Phipps. Good afternoon, Chairman Stauber and members of 
the Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee. Thank you for 
the opportunity to testify on H.R. 931, the Bull Mountains 
Mining Plan Modification bill.
    I also want to thank Representative Downing for introducing 
H.R. 931. We are excited to have him as the Congressman for the 
people of eastern Montana.
    I would also like to thank my wife, who joined me for her 
first trip to Washington, D.C.
    I am the CEO of Signal Peak Energy, the operator of the 
Bull Mountains mine outside of Roundup, Montana. The Bull 
Mountains mine contains a very high BTU, low sulfur coal, and 
coal mining has occurred in the Bull Mountains for nearly 150 
years. The Bull Mountains Mine is an underground coal mine 
which utilizes modern longwall mining techniques.
    Like much of the western U.S., the surface and subsurface 
of the Bull Mountains is a combination of Federal, private, and 
State ownership. Signal Peak applied to lease 2,700 acres of 
Federal coal in 2008 and, after completion of an environmental 
assessment, entered into a lease with the United States in 2011 
to develop the Federal coal. Under the lease we pay an 8 
percent royalty, with half of the Federal royalty going to the 
State of Montana. In 2022, the last year Signal Peak was 
allowed to mine Federal coal, we paid $31 million in Federal 
royalties. In 2023, we paid more than $93 million in State and 
local taxes in Montana.
    We currently employ 250 hard-working Montanans spread out 
over 17 rural towns.
    Mining at the Bull Mountains mine is under a State-approved 
permit issued by the Montana Department of Environmental 
Quality. Montana has the delegated authority to administer the 
Federal Surface Mining Control and Reclamation Act. Because we 
mine federally owned coal, our mine plan is reviewed by the 
Office of Surface Mining at the Department of the Interior. As 
noted in my written testimony, Signal Peak has spent over 13 
years seeking approval to mine this leased coal. During that 
time OSM has completed three environmental assessments while 
Signal Peak continued producing coal from private, State, and 
at times Federal reserves.
    Litigation has been continuous for over a decade since 
Signal Peak began mining coal in 2015. Over the years, the 
courts have found fault with just two aspects of the thorough 
environmental review, and until 2023 Signal Peak was able to 
continue to mine Federal coal as OSM worked to fix the NEPA 
analysis.
    That all changed in February 2023, when the court again 
remanded the EA back to OSM for the fourth time, but this time 
the court prohibited Signal Peak from mining any Federal coal 
until OSM completed yet another NEPA analysis. OSM told the 
court in December 2022 that its fourth NEPA analysis on the 
Signal Peak mine plan would be an environmental impact 
statement. OSM's initial schedule had the issuance of the final 
EIS by July 2024.
    Unfortunately, OSM has missed its own deadlines and kept 
delaying the process. They have demanded extra studies that 
neither the court nor Montana DEQ found necessary. Signal Peak 
has spent over 3 million in the last 2 years, and is still 
waiting for our EIS. The delay in finalizing the EIS has 
created a serious problem for the mine.
    Signal Peak relies on longwall mining because the coal is a 
mix of Federal, State, and private ownership, being unable to 
access the Federal portions effectively blocks mining in the 
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    Mr. Phipps. Initially, when we thought the EIS would be 
complete last summer, Signal Peak modified our mine plan. 
First, as shown on the map, we mined the start of two longwall 
panels, panels 10 and 11. You will note that these longwall 
panels are a quarter mile wide, and as soon as we bumped into 
Federal coal, we stopped mining.
    Second, as shown on the far right and the top left of the 
map, we worked with the State to get approval to mine two areas 
of private coal at the edge of our mine. Our efforts, which 
have cost over $70 million in additional operating expenses, 
have allowed our employees to continue working. However, 
without some type of authorization to resume mining in the main 
area of the mine, those efforts won't be enough and we will 
begin winding down our operations in the coming months. That is 
where H.R. 931 comes into play.
    As shown by the orange-hashed areas on the map, H.R. 931 
would allow Signal Peak to return to the main area of the mine, 
and mine specific Federal coal until OSM completes the EIS. 
This mining would proceed according to the current mine plan 
approved by Montana DEQ and previously by OSM. H.R. 931 would 
allow us to mine a small portion of the leased Federal coal to 
keep our mine open. If H.R. 931 is enacted, Signal Peak will 
have sufficient coal for the next 18 months of production to 
provide our workforce with the certainty needed to continue 
this complex mining process.
    Thank you for your time today and interest in the Bull 
Mountains mine. I am more than happy to answer any questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Phipps follows:]
         Prepared Statement of Parker Phipps, President & CEO, 
                         Signal Peak Energy LLC

    Good afternoon, Chairman Stauber and distinguished members of the 
Committee. Thank you for the opportunity to testify on H.R. 931, the 
Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification bill introduced by 
Representative Downing and Representative Zinke. As President and CEO 
of Signal Peak Energy, I appreciate the opportunity to testify in 
support of H.R. 931.
Background
    Signal Peak Energy (SPE) owns and operates the Bull Mountains No. 1 
Mine (``Mine''), the only underground coal mine in the State of Montana 
located approximately 15 miles southeast of Roundup, Montana in 
Musselshell and Yellowstone Counties, Montana. Coal mining began in the 
Bull Mountains in the early 1880s and has proceeded, relatively 
continuously, in various parts of the Bull Mountains since then.
    The Mine uses long-wall mining and continuous mining techniques to 
safely and efficiently extract coal from the Mammoth coal seam. 
Continuous mining techniques are used to prepare access for long-wall 
mining. Long-wall mining shears coal from the face of rectangular 
panels approximately 1250 feet wide, advancing from one end to the 
other of the planned panel. Coal produced from the Mine is sold on the 
open international market. Since 2015, SPE has mined a checkerboard of 
private, state and federal coal and has produced over 70 million tons 
of high-BTU coal.
    The Bull Mountains Mine plays a crucial role in the economy of 
southcentral Montana. It currently employs over 250 workers (down from 
a peak of 320 workers in 2024). In 2023, SPE paid over $93 million in 
local and state taxes with $34 million of this total going to 
kindergarten through grade 12 public education. In 2022, the last full 
year in which SPE was allowed to mine federal coal, it paid $31.1 
million in federal royalties of which $15.6 million went to the State 
of Montana.
    In addition to its economic contributions, Signal Peak Energy is 
also engrained into the fabric of the community. SPE has provided 
approximately $400,000 each year to the Signal Peak Community 
Foundation to support local nonprofits, with contributions totaling 
over $4.5 million over the last 15 years. These funds have been used to 
purchase fire trucks and emergency vehicles in Roundup; construct 
baseball fields; renovate the Old Central School to house the Senior 
Center; and operate a food bank and a thrift store for Roundup's most 
vulnerable residents.
    SPE has also established a million-dollar endowment that provides 
scholarships for graduates of Musselshell County high schools to pursue 
post-secondary education: a $10,000 annual scholarship for a student 
pursuing an engineering degree, a $5,000 scholarship for a student in 
trade school, and a $1,000 scholarship for any secondary education. 
These scholarships are invaluable to educating the next generation who, 
the community hopes, will choose to stay and raise their families in 
Musselshell County. Most recently, in 2024 SPE provided a $6 million 
grant to the Yellowstone Ice Foundation to construct a state-of-the-art 
ice arena in Billings.
Litigation
    In 2008, Signal Peak applied to lease approximately 2,679.9 acres 
of federal coal at Bull Mountains. In 2011, after the preparation of an 
Environmental Assessment (EA) under the National Environmental Policy 
Act, SPE entered into a coal lease with the United States. This 
environmental review and coal lease were challenged by environmental 
groups and upheld by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in 
2018.
    In 2012, Signal Peak applied to mine coal in an area of the Mine 
referred to as AM-3. Like most of eastern Montana, the coal in AM-3 is 
a mix of federal, state, and private coal oriented in a checkerboard 
pattern that is impossible to safely and economically mine without 
access to all the coal. The Montana Department of Environmental Quality 
(DEQ) approved AM-3 in 2013. The Office of Surface Mining and 
Reclamation Enforcement (OSMRE) within the Department of the Interior 
(DOI) then prepared an Environmental Assessment on the mining of 
federal coal in AM-3. In 2015, the Assistant Secretary for Land and 
Minerals Management approved the mine plan modification allowing the 
mining of the federal coal in AM-3. Mining commenced shortly thereafter 
and continued through federal, private, and State coal under the 
checkerboard mineral ownership until the sudden vacatur order in 
February 2023, as noted below.
    The approval of AM-3 was challenged by environmental groups and, in 
2017, the Montana District Court remanded the 2015 EA back to OSMRE for 
additional environmental analysis of rail transportation and greenhouse 
gas emissions issues. Mining in AM-3 continued during this time.
    In 2018, OSM issued a second Environmental Assessment regarding 
SPE's request to mine federal coal in AM-3. The Assistant Secretary of 
Land and Minerals Management again approved SPE's request to mine the 
leased federal coal in AM-3.
    This second approval of AM-3 was again challenged by environmental 
groups. And, in 2020 (as in 2018), the Montana District Court remanded 
the 2018 EA back to OSMRE for additional environmental analysis on a 
single issue related to rail transportation of the coal. Mining in AM-3 
continued during this time.
    In 2020, OSMRE prepared a third Environmental Assessment completing 
additional analysis of rail transportation. Once again, the Assistant 
Secretary for Land and Minerals Management approved SPE's request to 
mine the leased federal coal in AM-3.
    Meanwhile, the environmental groups appealed from the limited 
remand in their challenge to the 2018 Environmental Assessment to the 
U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit. In 2022, the Ninth Circuit 
overruled the Montana District Court and concluded that OSMRE had not 
adequately considered the impacts of greenhouse gas emissions or 
explained why those impacts would not be significant, and required that 
Signal Peak prepare an Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).
    At a remedy hearing on remand to the Montana District Court, OSMRE 
informed the court that it would prepare an EIS on the AM-3 mine plan. 
At the hearing, OSMRE represented that the EIS would be finished in 17 
months (July 2024) and it would take three additional months to issue a 
final decision (October 2024).
    In February 2023, the Montana District Court ordered OSMRE to 
prepare an EIS on AM-3. Significantly, unlike the Court's prior orders, 
the District Court vacated the AM-3 mining plan pending completion of 
the EIS. As a result, Signal Peak is prohibited from mining the leased 
federal coal, which is located in a checkerboard pattern throughout the 
AM-3 permit area, unless and until OSMRE completes the AM-3 EIS and the 
Assistant Secretary of Land and Minerals Management re-approves the AM-
3 mining plan.
EIS Preparation
    Given the potentially devastating impacts that the unprecedented 
vacatur order would have on coal production at the Bull Mountains Mine 
and its workforce, SPE quickly moved to coordinate with OSMRE on the 
EIS process. SPE had been mining in the AM-3 Area since 2015, and this 
mining continued up to the vacatur order in February 2023. The initial 
schedule prepared by OSMRE anticipated issuance of a final EIS by July 
2024.
    Unfortunately, in the intervening two years nothing has proceeded 
according to OSMRE's schedule. An initial Notice of Intent to prepare 
an EIS was not published until August 2023. OSMRE then held two public 
comment periods on its decision to prepare an EIS in September 2023 and 
June 2024.
    OSMRE gave excuse after excuse about why more time was needed to 
complete the EIS and insisted on additional studies on matters that 
were not found to be deficient by the court and were not deemed 
necessary by Montana DEQ. For example, a year after the EIS process had 
begun, OSMRE ordered an additional study on acid mine drainage from the 
Bull Mountains Mine Waste Disposal Area.
    With more than a decade of sampling down-gradient water at the Bull 
Mountains Mine, the Montana DEQ and SPE knew that the waste coal did 
not produce acid drainage. Despite first-hand experience with the coal 
waste drainage and the objection of the Montana DEQ, OSM still insisted 
that the coal waste drainage study be completed. Given the economic 
need to complete the Bull Mountains EIS, SPE acquiesced to OSM's 
request and agreed to pay a contractor to complete the study. The 
hydrology contractor's report was only completed in early 2025 and 
confirmed what SPE and Montana DEQ told OSM over a year prior--the coal 
waste from the Bull Mountains Mine does not produce acid drainage.
    SPE has spent over $3 million in the two and a half years since the 
EIS effort began to complete the EIS and get back to mining federal 
coal in the Bull Mountains.
SPE Efforts to Keep the Bull Mountains Mine Open
    In addition to pursuing timely completion of the EIS, SPE took 
immediate actions to keep the Bull Mountains Mine operational and its 
(at the time) over 300 employees working.
    Initially, SPE modified its longwall operations in the AM-3 area so 
that it could mine private coal with the longwall in the current 
location until the longwall reached federal coal. The mining of this 
private coal was completed in Q2 2024. Second, SPE worked with Montana 
DEQ to secure approval to mine two areas of private coal that border 
AM-3. Mining of this coal, of lower quality and found in a narrower 
seam, is more than half complete and the coal will be exhausted by the 
end of 2025. These efforts are shown on the attached map.
    These actions, which required significant modifications of SPE's 
Montana DEQ approved mine plan, cost over $70 million in additional and 
unanticipated mine expenses over the last two years. However, despite 
SPE's efforts, at the end of 2025, in the absence of approval from 
OSMRE to mine the remaining federal coal in 
AM-3, SPE will be forced to suspend operations and lay off workers, 
dozens of whom are already idled because of the lack of development 
work available for the continuous mining team (the miners who prepare 
each new longwall panel for mining).
Need for H.R. 931
    H.R. 931 is a quick, narrow fix to avoid closure of the Mine in the 
coming months. Not all the federal coal in AM-3 is authorized for 
mining--only the portion necessary to allow mining in the immediate 
future. This legislation does not circumvent the National Environmental 
Policy Act or reduce environmental review. Rather, it recognizes the 
practical reality that this project has already undergone multiple 
layers of review over the past decade and that SPE has made substantial 
good-faith investments in compliance.
    H.R. 931 authorizes the mining of 779 acres of specific federal 
coal in AM-3. The identified federal coal will allow SPE to resume 
mining in longwall panels 10 and 11 and development work for most of 
longwall panel 12. This mining will produce 13 million tons of federal 
coal. Significantly, H.R. 931 would provide access to 161 acres of 
state coal and 699 acres of private coal which have been effectively 
sterilized since February 2023; that is, given the checkerboard pattern 
of coal ownership and SPE's use of longwall mining techniques, SPE 
cannot mine this state and private coal without the ability to mine the 
adjacent federal coal. The mining authorized by H.R. 931 would need to 
be completed in compliance with the AM-3 mine plan and would be done 
consistent with all State and federal environmental requirements.
    SPE cannot mine the remaining federal coal in AM-3 until OSMRE 
completes its EIS and the Assistant Secretary for Land and Minerals 
Management approves the AM-3 mine plan modification.
Conclusion
    H.R. 931 is a practical solution to the challenges confronting SPE 
and the impending closure of the Bull Mountains Mine. It would prevent 
economic harm and bolster our nation's energy production. I 
respectfully urge this Committee to support the bill and ensure that 
Montanans who depend on the Bull Mountains Mine can continue to work, 
raise families, and contribute to the strength of our nation.
    Thank you for your time and this opportunity to testify today. I 
look forward to your questions.
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Questions Submitted for the Record to Mr. Parker Phipps, President and 
                      CEO, Signal Peak Energy, LLC

              Questions Submitted by Representative Ansari

    Dear Chairman Stauber: This letter responds to the questions 
submitted by Representative Ansari following my testimony at the May 
20, 2025 hearing before the Committee on Natural Resources' 
Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources on H.R. 931, the Bull 
Mountains Mining Plan Modification Act.

    Question 1. Has Signal Peak ever canceled or terminated a rancher's 
lease? If so, please list the affected leases and justification for 
cancelation or termination.

    Answer. Signal Peak owns a portion of the surface property above 
its Bull Mountains No. 1 Mine (``Mine''). For more than thirty years, 
Signal Peak has granted surface grazing rights to third parties under 
leases specifically providing that these grazing rights shall terminate 
if the lessee violates the term of the lease, or if Signal Peak 
required to utilize its surface property to support its mining 
operations.
    Signal Peak terminated one such grazing lease in 2021 when the 
lessee violated the terms of the lease by engaging in unauthorized 
subleasing. Later in 2021, Signal Peak notified a second lessee that it 
required use of its surface property to support the expansion and 
development of the Mine. Although this lessee filed a lawsuit asserting 
objections to Signal Peak's exercise of these lease rights, the parties 
subsequently resolved this matter amicably with Signal Peak agreeing to 
purchase this lessee's adjacent surface property in its entirety. To be 
clear, Signal Peak's actions to terminate both leases were undertaken 
in strict accordance with the terms of these leases.
    Question 2. Has Signal Peak ever asked a rancher to sign a non-
disclosure agreement? If so, how many?

    Answer. Since I joined Signal Peak, the company has never asked a 
rancher to execute a non-disclosure agreement. With regard to the 
lawsuit referenced in section 1 above, the parties entered into a 
standard settlement agreement that contained a mutual confidentiality 
and non--disparagement clause. Both parties were represented by counsel 
in connection with this settlement.

    Question 3. Has Signal Peak or its contractors or consultants ever 
modeled whether the deep aquifer has enough water to replace the water 
the mine is draining from the Bull Mountains? If so, please attach or 
provide a citation for said modeling.

    Answer. As a threshold matter, Signal Peak's operations are not 
``draining'' water from the Bull Mountains. Surface and groundwater 
resources within the subsidence zone are intensely monitored before, 
during, and after undermining. Signal Peak's biannual and annual 
hydrology reports and the Montana Department of Environmental Quality's 
cumulative hydrologic impact assessments disprove this false assertion.
    Signal Peak modeled the deep underburden aquifer--a designated 
potential source of replacement water--in 2015. That model--together 
with Signal Peak's comprehensive groundwater model--are routinely 
updated and recalibrated as new data becomes available. Both models 
have been scrutinized and accepted by the Montana Department of 
Environmental Quality.
    In 2016, environmental advocacy organizations challenged the legal 
and physical viability of the deep underburden aquifer to serve as a 
potential source of replacement water. In 2022, the Montana Board of 
Environmental Review dismissed these claims as legally and factually 
baseless and admonished the environmental advocacy organizations for 
misrepresenting the facts and presenting evidence out of context. In 
the Matter of: Appeal Amendment Application AM3, Signal Peak Energy 
LLC's Bull Mountains Mine No. 1, Permit No. C1993017, Findings of Fact, 
Conclusions of Law, and Order, No. BER 2016-07 SM (BER June 16, 2022). 
The Board's Final Order is enclosed as Exhibit A.
    With respect to the physical availability of the deep underburden 
aquifer, the Montana Board of Environmental Review specifically found 
that the aquifer is ``massive'' and ``extends over a broad area 
throughout the Bull Mountains'' approximately ``14 miles wide and 22 
miles long.'' The Montana Board of Environmental Review concluded that 
the deep underburden aquifer ``has the characteristics to serve 
existing and viable designated uses'' together with all anticipated 
mitigations needs.
    To date, Signal Peak has not sourced replacement water from the 
deep underburden aquifer and, given the very minor hydrologic impacts 
realized after nearly two decades of longwall mining, does not 
anticipate doing so in the future.

    Question 4. Who is the first buyer or off-taker of coal mined by 
Signal Peak? Does Signal Peak sell its coal to an affiliated company or 
intermediary entity prior to shipping or for shipping?

    Answer. Signal Peak sells coal destined for the international 
market to its marketing and sales affiliate, Global Coal Sales Group, 
LLC (``GCSG''). In compliance with Federal and state law, the sales 
price paid by GCSG is determined based upon the netback FOB Mine price 
for these international sales.

    Question 5. In the hearing, you stated that Signal Peak ``currently 
complies with all Federal and state laws.'' Please provide a list of 
all crimes that Signal Peak Energy or its executives have been charged 
with, convicted of or plead guilty to since you have begun working for 
the company in February 2020.

    Answer. Signal Peak complies with all Federal and state laws. Since 
I joined Signal Peak in February 2020, no Federal or state criminal 
charges have been asserted against Signal Peak or its executives.
    On September 21, 2021, Signal Peak pled guilty to four counts of 
violation of mandatory health and safety standards pursuant to 30 
U.S.C. Sec.  820(d) based upon (1) the failure to secure permits for 
the disposal of coal slurry in 2013 and 2015, and (2) the failure to 
report two workplace accidents in 2018. This conduct occurred years 
before I was hired by Signal Peak. The company paid the requisite fines 
for each violation immediately at the time of sentencing, did not 
object to the presentence investigation report prepared by the USPO, 
and has fully complied with all terms of probation, which has now 
concluded. In the plea agreement, the U.S. Attorney recommended that 
the ``offense level be decreased by two levels for acceptance of 
responsibility, pursuant to USSG Sec. 3E1.1(a).'' As the Government 
stated at the time of sentencing, this plea agreement was influenced by 
two mitigating factors: (a) Signal Peak's significant cooperation with 
the U.S. Attorneys' investigations, and (b) the fact that Signal Peak's 
owners had no knowledge of and were not involved in unlawful conduct.
    Following my hire by Signal Peak in February 2020, the following 
former Signal Peak employees pled guilty in connection with the conduct 
identified above, which again pre-dated my employment with Signal Peak:

     Dale Musgrave--In December 2021, Mr. Musgrave pled guilty 
            to conspiracy to submit false mine records regarding an 
            employee injury. He was sentenced to 2 years' probation and 
            fined $20,000.

     Curtis Floyd--In January 2023, Mr. Floyd pled guilty to 
            conspiracy to submit false mine records regarding an 
            employee injury. He was sentenced to 2 years' probation and 
            fined $2,000.

    Question 6. According to Mine Safety and Health Administration 
data, the Bull Mountains mine has had 1,982 reported MSHA violations 
and 159 accidents since Signal Peak Energy began operating the mine in 
2008. This includes hundreds of reported MSHA violations since you 
began working for Signal Peak. Please summarize the violations that 
have taken place while you have been CEO and the total amount of 
penalty that Signal Peak has paid in relation to those violations, 
describe how Signal Peak Energy has sought to remediate or mitigate the 
damages from those violations, and explain how Signal Peak Energy plans 
to prevent violations in the future.

    Answer. Signal Peak is proud of its safety record at the Mine. 
Underground mining is an inherently dangerous undertaking, and Signal 
Peak is committed to maintaining a safe workplace for its skilled 
workforce. Signal Peak demands best safety practices, rigorous and 
continuing training, and immediate corrective action when safety issues 
arise. The Mine Safety and Health Administration (``MSHA'') inspects 
Signal Peak's operations monthly, and Signal Peak strives to comply 
with all applicable workplace safety regulations. Alleged violations 
and associated penalties are available on the Mine Data Retrieval 
System.
    The number of referenced citations issued by MSHA since 2008 is not 
indicative of poor safety practices by Signal Peak. To the contrary, 
Signal Peak is recognized as one of the safest underground mines in the 
United States. By way of illustration, in 2024 Signal Peak received 146 
total citations, only 4 of which were deemed ``significant and 
substantial.'' And in 2023, Signal Peak received 167 total citations, 
only 5 of which were deemed ``significant and substantial.'' During my 
tenure, MSHA has never determined that Signal Peak met any ``pattern of 
violation'' criteria suggesting that the Mine exhibited a chronic 
pattern of safety and health violations. In fact, Signal Peak has 
consistently ranked among the top quartile of mines in the United 
States with respect to the number of ``significant and substantial'' 
citations issued by MSHA.
    In 2021, to ensure that the Mine consistently followed best mining 
practices and strictly adhered to applicable law, Signal Peak retained 
an independent expert to conduct bi-annual audits focusing on the 
company's safety and environmental functions. In the most recent audit 
in 2024, this expert concluded that:

     Signal Peak's commitment to employee safety, environmental 
            compliance, record-keeping, and operational performance is 
            outstanding. The mining operation ranks at the peak of 
            underground coal industry performance in terms of its 
            adherence to mandatory health and safety standards.

     The Mine's accident rate frequencies are better than 
            industry norms. Observations of the underground workings 
            and surface facilities demonstrate a sustained and ongoing 
            commitment to industry-leading operating and maintenance 
            standards. Documentation and site visits indicate that 
            Signal Peak fully complies with environmental and 
            permitting requirements.

    I trust that the above information fully addresses the questions 
submitted by Representative Ansari.

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    Mr. Ezell [presiding]. The gentleman yields. I now 
recognize the gentleman from Alaska, Mr. Begich, for 30 seconds 
to introduce our next witness.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am especially 
pleased to welcome our next witness, Mr. Mike West, who serves 
as the State Seismologist for Alaska and the Director of the 
Alaska Earthquake Center at the University of Alaska Fairbanks.
    Mr. West is not only a nationally recognized expert in 
seismic and volcanic hazards, but also an Alaskan and a 
constituent. His leadership has been critical to advancing 
real-time monitoring and hazard mitigation strategies in our 
state, a place that experiences more earthquakes and volcanic 
activity than anywhere else in the country. I am grateful for 
his service and for the insight he brings today as we examine 
legislation that will directly impact the safety and 
preparedness of communities across Alaska and the Nation.
    Welcome to Washington.
    Mr. Ezell. Dr. West, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

STATEMENT OF MIKE WEST, DIRECTOR AND STATE SEISMOLOGIST, ALASKA 
              EARTHQUAKE CENTER, FAIRBANKS, ALASKA

    Dr. West. Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, I 
appreciate the opportunity to talk today about earthquake, 
volcano, and landslide legislation. I direct the Alaska 
Earthquake Center. I spent 10 years as part of the Alaska 
Volcano Observatory, and my recent research focuses on 
monitoring landslides. I feel well positioned for this.
    The National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, known as 
NEHRP, is one of the most successful pieces of hazards 
legislation ever. Coming up on its 50th anniversary, it 
coordinates the efforts of four agencies: the U.S. Geological 
Survey; the National Science Foundation; FEMA; NIST. In my 
opinion, this is what smart, collaborative government looks 
like.
    I can paraphrase the goal of NEHRP very simply: reducing 
the economic impacts and the fatalities of earthquakes.
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    Dr. West. Here, in the figure on the screen, this is 
just one of NEHRP's many deliverables. This is the National 
Seismic Hazard Map. Led by the USGS, this map shows the shaking 
to be expected from future earthquakes. This is a scientific 
masterpiece that reflects 50 years of the NEHRP program. This 
map informs hundreds of billions of dollars in infrastructure 
design. It drives insurance rates, building codes, land use 
decisions, emergency response.
    That said, the work of NEHRP is not done. Just three States 
so far have the USGS's ShakeAlert system, which is capable of 
providing warning before shaking even starts. Four months ago, 
the USGS published a ShakeAlert plan for Alaska. There are 
other states that are developing plans, as well. But it is 
NEHRP legislation that will provide the national coordination 
that can make ShakeAlert more broadly accessible.
    Let's change gears. How about the second figure now?
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    Dr. West. The National Volcano Early Warning System, 
a.k.a. NVEWS, is a similar piece of legislation. The U.S. is 
home to 58 high-threat volcanoes. On occasion they put ash in 
the air, they create lava flows, landslides, toxic gases. But 
with the right research and monitoring, we can actually 
forecast most of these. That helps prevent unnecessary 
evacuations, protects infrastructure, and can reduce the costs 
of responding to disasters. It also protects aviation by 
detecting airborne ash that threatens planes.
    The recent unrest of Mount Spurr, shown here on the screen, 
in my home state is an outstanding example of volcano warning. 
Just outside of Anchorage, this photo shows steam and gas from 
the summit. On the bottom is a chart of earthquake activity 
over the past 16 months. Together with other data, the Alaska 
Volcano Observatory has used these to issue increasingly 
detailed forecasts for many months now. The problem is that 
most U.S. volcanoes aren't monitored like Spurr. Fully 
implementing NVEWS would fix this.
    Landslides. Good numbers on landslides are hard to come by. 
That is something that the bill before you would actually help 
address. But even 20 years ago, annual costs were estimated 
above $2 billion. They affect nearly every State, anywhere that 
there is steep terrain and heavy rainfall. The Oso landslide, 
mentioned earlier in Washington State, killed 43 people in 
2014. The California storms in 2023 triggered hundreds of 
slides and billions in damage. We have some evidence that 
landslides are increasing in frequency.
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    Dr. West. In figure three, on the screen right now, you 
will see the landslide on top in Wrangell, Alaska that killed 6 
people in 2023. On the bottom is a 2024 slide in Ketchikan. 
These disasters are becoming a near annual experience in my 
State.
    The Landslide Act empowers the USGS with State partners to 
map, monitor, and respond to landslides nationwide.
    So, I am thrilled that you are considering all three of 
these bills together today, because they share a common set of 
proven strategies. Each program tracks long-term patterns in 
the Earth. How do you track long-term patterns? Well, with 
long-term instrumentation and monitoring. With years of 
baseline data, it becomes possible to know when a hazard is 
developing or where it is most likely to occur. These programs 
build formal collaborations between Federal agencies, 
universities, State geological surveys, each bringing what they 
do best.
    So, earthquakes, volcanoes, landslides, they are part of 
the planet on which we live. We can't make them go away. But 
the surest way to minimize their impacts, human and financial, 
is to update and reauthorize the bills that affirm our national 
stance. Thank you.
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  Prepared Statement of Michael E. West, PhD, State Seismologist for 
     Alaska Research Professor, Director, Alaska Earthquake Center 
                     University of Alaska Fairbanks
    Chairman Stauber and Ranking Member Ansari, thank you for the 
opportunity to speak about three bills: the National Earthquake Hazards 
Reduction Program (NEHRP), the National Volcano Early Warning System 
(NVEWS) and the National Landslide Preparedness Act (NLPA). These 
bills, and the programs they support, are interrelated. As such, I 
applaud the committee for considering them together.
    I have personal experience and expertise with all three bills. In 
my role as State Seismologist at the Alaska Earthquake Center I direct 
the earthquake monitoring efforts in Alaska. I previously spent 10 
years working as part of the Alaska Volcano Observatory. And for the 
past few years, much of my research time has been devoted to the 
challenge of monitoring landslides in real-time. My work focuses on 
Alaska--a state with a disproportionate share of the nation's geologic 
hazards. I illustrate the impact of this legislation with examples from 
Alaska. However, these examples are just a few among countless examples 
nationwide that could be presented to motivate this legislation. I am 
in daily contact with peers around the country who carry similar 
responsibilities in their regions. I am certain my testimony reflects 
the sentiments of the numerous practitioners nationwide. Below I 
provide brief comments on each bill followed by a discussion of the 
common themes across them.
National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program
    NEHRP is one of the most successful pieces of natural hazard 
legislation in existence. It has been a model for other legislation 
including the volcano and landslide bills. Created by Congress in 1977, 
the NEHRP program establishes coordination across federal agencies, 
state agencies, academia, and the private sector. This coordination has 
led to advances in seismic monitoring, building codes, engineering 
practices, and public education. It has saved lifes and saved billions 
of dollars. NEHRP is an example of good government, leveraging the 
strengths of different agencies instead of duplicating one another. 
Under NEHRP, the National Science Foundation (NSF) brings fundamental 
new insights in earthquake science and engineering. The U.S. Geological 
Survey (USGS) makes seismic monitoring possible, while also quantifying 
the nation's specific earthquake hazards. The Federal Emergency 
Management Agency (FEMA) identifies the risks and earthquake 
vulnerabilities and then works with communities to mitigate these risks 
before they occur. And the National Institute of Standards and 
Technology (NIST) provides coordination across these efforts while 
ensuring that research and lessons learned are translated into specific 
codes and building practices.
    Investing in seismic monitoring lowers long-term costs by guiding 
smarter decisions before and after earthquakes. Reliable ground motion 
data from seismic networks supports better building codes and 
retrofitting standards. These reduce damage to infrastructure and cut 
repair costs after a damaging earthquake. Real-time monitoring allows 
engineers and emergency managers to focus resources where they are most 
needed, avoiding unnecessary inspections and shutdowns. For businesses, 
rapid damage assessments minimize downtime, keeping commerce moving and 
reducing overall economic losses. Transportation systems, pipelines, 
ports, and utilities use seismic data to assess whether it is necessary 
to stop operations, and how to resume safely. During the recovery phase 
of a major earthquake the detailed shaking data can help guide repairs 
and replacements that are safer and more cost-effective. Every dollar 
spent on seismic monitoring yields significant savings by reducing 
direct damages, speeding recovery, and limiting disruptions to 
businesses and public services.
    A foundation of NEHRP's success has been the Advanced National 
Seismic System (ANSS), a comprehensive network of seismic instruments 
and data centers coordinated by the USGS in partnership with earthquake 
centers in each region of the country (USGS, 2017). These centers 
provide expertise on the unique seismic hazards of their areas, from 
Alaska to California to the Central and Eastern U.S. The monitoring 
networks they operate maintain dense sensor coverage where it is most 
needed, ensuring that earthquakes are assessed quickly and ground 
shaking is measured accurately. Seismic network operators understand 
local geology, infrastructure, and community needs, allowing them to 
provide high-quality data and targeted information to emergency 
managers, engineers, and the public. This local capability feeds into 
the national system, maintained by the USGS, making ANSS both 
comprehensive and responsive. Without strong regional networks, 
national earthquake monitoring would be slower, less accurate, and less 
effective in protecting communities.
    One of NEHRP's clearest deliverables is the National Seismic Hazard 
Map (Petersen et al., 2023). Led by the USGS, this map shows the 
expected level of ground shaking from future earthquakes. It combines 
data on past earthquakes, faults, and ground motion models to estimate 
the likelihood and intensity of shaking in different areas. This map is 
the scientific basis for building codes, helping engineers design 
structures to withstand expected earthquakes, while also helping to 
avoid costly mitigation strategies where they are not needed. It guides 
infrastructure planning, insurance rates, land use decisions, and 
emergency response. States and cities use it to identify high-risk 
areas and prepare accordingly.
    I have witnessed the impact of NEHRP first hand, most notably 
during the magnitude 7.1 Anchorage Earthquake in 2018 (West et al., 
2019). This earthquake was deeply impactful to the region and was 
responsible for hundreds of millions of dollars in damage. Thousands of 
homes and buildings were damaged. But remarkably, not a single building 
collapsed entirely. As a result, no one died during the earthquake. 
This success can be attributed almost entirely to NEHRP. Because of 
decades of research and implementation, modern seismic building codes 
were in place across much of south-central Alaska, significantly 
reducing structural damage despite violent shaking. Seismic hazard 
models, developed through NEHRP support, had helped guide construction 
practices. NEHRP investments in seismic monitoring enabled real-time 
data collection and rapid post-event analyses, assisting state agencies 
and emergency responders in assessing infrastructure impacts. Public 
education campaigns and preparedness initiatives, championed by NEHRP 
partners, ensured that schools, businesses, and residents knew how to 
``Drop, Cover, and Hold On,'' reducing injuries. The Anchorage 
earthquake is an example of how NEHRP's long-term, research-based 
approach directly enhances community resilience and public safety.
    The work of NEHRP is not done. Alaska experiences more large 
earthquakes than any other state, yet it does not have access to the 
ShakeAlert Earthquake Early Warning system. ShakeAlert, and other 
earthquake early warning systems, uses real-time data to provide 
seconds of warning before strong shaking arrives. This response time 
provides people time to take protective actions and allows critical 
systems to shut down safely. The ShakeAlert system was prototyped in 
California, Oregon, and Washington states with the plan to roll out 
these capabilities more widely once it was fully operational. The build 
out in these three states is now complete. In January 2025, the USGS 
published the ShakeAlert implementation plan for Alaska (Wolfe et al., 
2025). Other states are in the process of developing ShakeAlert plans 
as well. NEHRP is critical to these expansions. NEHRP provides the 
framework for national coordination, and authorizes the resources 
needed to continue to expand the implementation of ShakeAlert. The 
geophysical network built to support earthquake early warning has the 
dual benefit of strengthening tsunami warning capabilities. Dense 
seismic and GPS sensor coverage allows the rapid assessment of offshore 
earthquakes that can generate tsunamis. Rapidly measuring the style of 
faulting makes it possible to issue faster, more accurate tsunami 
alerts. Investing in earthquake early warning networks creates shared 
infrastructure that supports both fast ground shaking alerts and timely 
tsunami warnings, protecting coastal communities from multiple hazards.
National Volcano Early Warning System
    The National Volcano Early Warning System (NVEWS) reduces the risks 
and costs of eruptions through a mix of early detection, monitoring, 
and public communication.
    The United States is home to more than 160 active volcanoes, many 
of which pose serious threats to communities, infrastructure, and 
critical air routes (Ewert et al., 2018). Alaska alone has over 50 
volcanoes that have been active in historic times, many located along 
major international flight paths. As just one example, the 1989 Redoubt 
Volcano event sent ash clouds into the atmosphere, disrupting air 
traffic across the Pacific and causing complete engine failure in one 
commercial passenger jet. Similar risks exist in the Cascades, Hawaii, 
and other volcanic regions. In Hawaii, the eruption of Kilauea in 2018 
destroyed hundreds of homes and forced large-scale evacuations. 
Volcanoes in Washington, such as Mount Rainier, pose significant lahar 
(volcanic mudflow) risks to populations in the Puget Sound region. 
Eruptions can cause varied hazards, including ashfall, lava flows, 
landslides, and volcanic gases, that can affect broad areas even away 
from the volcano. Monitoring helps forecast these events and provide 
time to prepare.
    NVEWS unifies the U.S. volcano observatories into a single, 
national system. This improved efficiency is coupled with modern 
instrumentation, real-time data transmission, and advanced forecasting 
tools. Faster more accurate volcanic warnings reduce the risks to life 
and infrastructure by giving communities and emergency managers more 
time to respond. It also protects aviation by detecting ash-producing 
eruptions that threaten aircraft. Early warnings minimize economic 
disruption by preventing unplanned evacuations, protecting 
infrastructure, and reducing the need for disaster response and 
recovery. NVEWS is a cost-effective way to reduce the human and 
financial impact of volcanic eruptions.
    The recent unrest of Mount Spurr volcano illustrates the success of 
early warning (Figure 2). Spurr is labeled by the USGS as a very high 
threat volcano near Anchorage, Alaska that for many months now has been 
understood to be in a state of unrest. Tiny earthquakes, ground 
deformation, and gas emissions all point to patterns that are similar 
to the last few Spurr eruptions. Together this information has allowed 
the Alaska Volcano Observatory (the Alaska component of NVEWS) to issue 
regular and well-informed eruption forecasts in recent months. When 
Spurr does erupt, previous NVEWS efforts will make it possible to warn 
about individual explosions and forecast ash fall.
    Unlike Mt. Spurr, many high-threat volcanoes in the U.S. still lack 
modern instruments and real-time monitoring. Fully implementing NVEWS 
would close those gaps and provide more universal coverage. It would 
allow for earlier detection of unrest at sites that currently pose 
blind spots. The system would also strengthen coordination between 
federal and state agencies, ensuring faster, unified responses. By 
giving communities and infrastructure managers more time to act, NVEWS 
reduces the cost of emergency response and recovery. Investing now 
lowers the economic risk and avoids more expensive disaster impacts 
later.
National Landslide Preparedness Act
    Landslides pose a persistent and costly threat across the United 
States. Though national loss estimates for landslides are generally 
lacking, the National Landslide Preparedness Act (NLPA) helps address 
this by providing better systems for tracking and assessing landslides. 
Even 20 years ago, however, the annual costs were estimated to exceed 
two billion dollars (Spiker and Gori, 2023). These hazards are 
widespread, affecting nearly every state (Luna et al., 2025). They are 
especially common in regions with steep terrain, heavy rainfall, or 
wildfire burn scars--such as Alaska, the Pacific Northwest, California, 
and Appalachia. The 2014 Oso landslide in Washington, which killed 43 
people and destroyed dozens of homes, remains a poignant example of the 
risks posed by large slope failures. More recently, intense storms in 
California in 2023 triggered dozens of damaging debris flows and slope 
collapses along unstable hillsides. Extreme rain events, wildfire, and 
glacial retreat make slopes more vulnerable. These factors appear to be 
increasing the frequency, and possibly the severity, of landslides.
    Landslide hazards are geographically widespread but unevenly 
monitored and poorly mapped in many parts of the country. A national 
approach helps close these gaps. It also makes it possible to 
standardize data and support consistent hazard assessment across state 
lines. Without federal coordination, many high-risk regions--especially 
rural--lack the tools to assess landslide susceptibility and lack the 
ability to issue meaningful warnings. The USGS approach outlined in the 
NLPA is designed to complement and strengthen state and local efforts 
by providing data, technical expertise, and coordination tools that 
many jurisdictions cannot develop on their own. State agencies are the 
primary source of local knowledge, field data, and public outreach 
networks. Federal support helps the states to implement early warning 
systems, prioritize mitigation projects, and respond more effectively 
to landslide events. This two-way collaboration ensures that federal 
tools and science reach the communities that need it most, while 
empowering states to lead the risk reduction efforts.
    The National Landslide Preparedness Act empowers the U.S. 
Geological Survey to coordinate a strategy to identify, map, monitor, 
and respond to landslide hazards nationwide. This legislation is 
particularly vital for states like Alaska, where steep terrain, heavy 
precipitation, seismic activity, and thawing permafrost contribute to 
heightened landslide risks. The NLPA facilitates collaboration between 
federal agencies and state entities to develop detailed landslide 
inventories and susceptibility maps, and to implement monitoring 
systems in high-risk areas like Prince William Sound and Southeast 
Alaska. By providing funding, technical expertise, and interagency 
coordination, the National Landslide Preparedness Act strengthens local 
capacities to mitigate landslide risks, protect communities, and 
enhance public safety across Alaska and the broader United States.
    The November 2023 Wrangell landslide in Southeast Alaska 
exemplifies the challenge. Following days of intense rainfall, a large 
slope failed, sending a massive debris flow downslope that destroyed 
homes and claimed the lives of six people. Instability on other nearby 
slopes prompted evacuations and emergency monitoring that demonstrated 
the event was part of a broader sequence of failures across the region. 
Nearly the same event occurred a year later in Ketchikan (Figure 3). 
These tragedies illustrate several priorities of the NLPA. These 
include the need for high-resolution hazard mapping, real-time 
landslide assessment, and coordinated federal-state response 
capabilities. The NLPA framework makes it possible for the U.S. 
Geological Survey to partner with the Alaska Division of Geological and 
Geophysical Surveys and the Alaska Earthquake Center to install remote 
sensors, expand landslide inventories, and develop early warning tools. 
By supporting these activities, the NLPA can help prevent similar 
events in vulnerable communities in Alaska and elsewhere.
    Just as national coordination has improved earthquake and volcano 
hazard mitigation, a similar model is needed to reduce landslide losses 
and protect public safety.
Themes Common to All Bills
    The programs supported by these three bills share a set of proven 
strategies. They rely on strong federal-state-academic partnerships, 
robust instrumentation networks, and sustained observation and research 
programs.
    Each program captures long-term data that make it possible to 
discern the geophysical and geological patterns unique to each hazard. 
Years of these baseline data often make it possible to know when a 
hazard is developing. Often these data enable forecasts of specific 
impacts, making it possible for individuals and communities to prepare.
    Each program also formalizes collaboration between federal 
agencies, universities, and state geological surveys. This approach 
harnesses local expertise and knowledge, while providing national 
standards and economies of scale.
    Investments in the monitoring networks that power these programs--
whether for earthquakes, volcanoes, or landslides--enable timely 
warnings, accurate hazard assessments, and cost reduction through 
mitigation efforts. Updating and reauthorizing the bills that affirm 
these programs is the surest way to minimize the impact of these events 
on society and the surest way to minimize the costs of recovery from 
these infrequent, but often devastating, natural hazards.

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    Mr. Ezell. The gentleman yields. The Chair now recognizes 
Mr. Helton for 5 minutes.

     STATEMENT OF DOUG HELTON, FORMER REGIONAL OPERATIONS 
  SUPERVISOR, EMERGENCY RESPONSE DIVISION (RETIRED), NATIONAL 
  OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, SEATTLE, WASHINGTON

    Mr. Helton. Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and 
Subcommittee members, thank you for the opportunity to speak 
about the major risks of offshore drilling and NOAA's role in 
protecting coastal communities, marine ecosystems, and the 
American people. My name is Doug Helton. Until recently I 
served in NOAA's Emergency Response Division, providing 
scientific and technical support during oil spill responses. 
Today, I am speaking on my own behalf. After 33 years of 
service, I retired alongside more than 1,000 other NOAA 
employees who left amid the Trump administration's effort to 
gut the agency. Together we represented 27,000 years of 
experience. It is an irreplaceable loss that endangers 
Americans' health, safety, and the economy.
    As an oil spill expert, I am deeply concerned by this 
Administration and this Committee's attempts to expand offshore 
drilling. During my time at NOAA, I worked on preparedness and 
response efforts up and down the country's coasts, from Maine 
to the Arctic to American Samoa. I also chaired the Oil Spill 
Recovery Institute, created in response to the Exxon Valdez oil 
spill. Given my extensive experience, deep concern about NOAA, 
and recognition of the widespread public opposition to offshore 
drilling, I am here today to testify in opposition to the 
Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025 and the CORE Act of 
2025.
    The Offshore Lands Authorities Act would revoke permanent 
protections from oil and gas drilling in the Atlantic, Pacific, 
eastern Gulf, and Arctic, areas established by presidential 
withdrawal, while also limiting future withdrawals. These 
presidential withdrawals, including those enacted by President 
Trump, didn't happen in a vacuum. They happened after decades 
of sustained bipartisan opposition to offshore drilling. Nearly 
400 municipalities, 2,300 Republican, Democratic, and 
independent elected officials, 55,000 coastal businesses, 
500,000 fishing families, national defense interests, and 
Members of Congress have all formally opposed expanded offshore 
drilling. The communities most impacted by this bill are 
overwhelmingly against it.
    Every year NOAA's Office of Response and Restoration 
responds to over 150 oil and chemical spills. The simple truth 
is that whenever and wherever you drill, produce, transport, or 
store oil, there is risk. Expanding that footprint, as this 
bill proposes, multiplies that risk just as the budget and 
staffing cuts are impacting the agency's ability to respond.
    The Deepwater Horizon example remains a sobering example. I 
worked 16-hour days for 87 days straight until the well was 
capped. The cleanup took years more. Despite a response of 
45,000 people and highly specialized equipment, only a fraction 
of the oil was recovered.
    Even smaller spills can cause serious harm. A spill in 
Tampa Bay, for instance, polluted 13 miles of beach, harming 
wildlife and disrupting fishing.
    Oil spills in Alaska are particularly concerning. The North 
Slope is remote and difficult to access. Getting proper 
equipment can take weeks. Housing the number of responders 
needed would also be logistically impossible, and severe 
weather and long winter darkness would create major additional 
challenges.
    All told, this bill's proposal to eliminate protections 
across the U.S. waters will invite oil and gas development on 
every coast, risking spills we can't contain, and harming 
ecosystems and economies for decades.
    Although not part of my area of specific expertise, I also 
want to express concern about the CORE Act. This bill would 
prioritize seismic testing and drilling even in sensitive 
areas, seismic testing that involves repeated high-decibel 
blasts that travel hundreds of miles underwater which can 
seriously impact marine wildlife.
    These risks are magnified by the Trump administration's 
rollback of safety regulations and its dismantling of the very 
Federal agencies responsible for oil spill prevention and 
response. Cuts to agency budgets and staff mean fewer 
inspections, weaker safeguards, and slower responses. With 
hurricane season just 12 days away, these stakes could not be 
higher. Expanding offshore drilling while also weakening our 
Federal response capacity is a dangerous combination.
    In closing, after more than three decades responding to 
spills, I have seen firsthand the devastating, often 
irreversible impacts to communities, ecosystems, and 
livelihoods. These bills ignore the will of the American people 
and unnecessarily increase the risk of catastrophic oil spills, 
especially in areas lacking the capacity to respond. I 
respectfully urge the Subcommittee to weigh these risks before 
advancing these bills.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Helton follows:]
              Prepared Statement of Douglas (Doug) Helton

    Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and distinguished Members 
of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on the 
major risks of offshore drilling and the importance of the National 
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) in protecting the 
American people, coastal communities, and marine ecosystems from harm, 
particularly in the context of offshore oil and gas drilling.
Background
    My name is Doug Helton, and until recently, I served as the 
Regional Operations Supervisor for NOAA's Emergency Response Division, 
providing scientific and technical support during oil spill responses. 
After 33 years of service, I retired a few weeks ago along with over 
1,000 other NOAA employees driven out by the Trump administration's 
efforts to gut the agency and the critical data and services it 
provides for the American people. Together, we represented a loss of 
27,000 years of expertise at the agency, a loss that endangers 
Americans' health, safety, and economies.
    As an oil spill expert, this danger is particularly troubling as 
the Administration and some Members of Congress seek to expand the 
footprint of offshore drilling nationwide. During my time at NOAA, I 
worked on oil spills, shipwrecks, abandoned vessels, and emergency 
response efforts in almost all coastal states, ranging from Maine to 
American Samoa, including Deepwater Horizon. I have extensive 
experience in oil spill preparedness and response, including work 
across the U.S., the Arctic, and Alaska. As the NOAA and Department of 
Commerce representative to the Alaska Regional Response Team, I 
supported statewide and transboundary incident response. I served as a 
U.S. delegate to the Arctic Council's emergency preparedness 
subcommittee and worked on transboundary pollution agreements. I also 
chaired the federally mandated Oil Spill Recovery Institute in Cordova, 
Alaska, which was created in response to the Exxon Valdez oil spill. 
Before my NOAA career, I conducted salmon research in Bristol Bay and 
the Bering Sea, where I had previously worked as a commercial 
fisherman.
    Given my extensive experience in oil spill recovery, my deep 
concern about cuts to NOAA's operations, and my recognition of the 
opposition by communities to the expansion of drilling to their coasts, 
I am here today to testify in opposition to the Offshore Lands 
Authorities Act of 2025 and the CORE Act of 2025.
Opposition to Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025
    I understand that the Offshore Lands Authorities Act of 2025 not 
only looks to revoke the permanent ocean protections for the Atlantic, 
Pacific, and Eastern Gulf coasts as well as the Arctic Ocean areas that 
Presidents Biden and Obama withdrew from oil and gas leasing 
disposition, but also goes further to significantly limit the ability 
of future presidents to withdraw areas by limiting the amount of ocean 
that can be withdrawn and removing the president's ability to 
permanently protect certain areas, among other provisions.
    Unchecked oil and gas development in our coastal waters comes at 
the expense of our ocean, public health, local businesses, fisheries, 
and marine ecosystems. The permanent withdrawals of this past January 
by President Biden as well as the September 2020 withdrawals by 
President Trump of the waters of the Southeastern United States for 10 
years (from and including the waters of North Carolina through 
Florida--came in response to decades of building opposition to drilling 
by coastal communities, including opposition from Members of Congress 
on both sides of the aisle representing these very communities. To 
date, nearly 400 municipalities and counties and over 2,300 elected 
officials--Republicans, Democrats, and Independents--across the 
Atlantic, Pacific, and Gulf have formally opposed the expansion of 
offshore drilling to their coasts. In addition to individual citizen 
voices and those of elected officials, voices from defense communities 
and business coalitions representing over 55,000 coastal businesses and 
500,000 fishing families along the three coasts of the Lower 48 weighed 
in, calling for the previous administration to issue permanent coastal 
protections. These ocean areas should remain protected. The voices of 
the people who live in these coastal communities that would be 
negatively impacted by this bill are overwhelming in their opposition 
to drilling.
    I believe that many of the millions of Americans who want their 
coasts protected from drilling and spilling have memories of the 
Deepwater Horizon disaster, which unfolded 15 years ago this past April 
20, and which has had long-lasting effects on the Gulf, its ecosystems, 
and the people who call it home. And many of those local residents who 
participated in the cleanup in the gulf, like after other large spills, 
reported harmful long-term health impacts.
    I also remember the Deepwater Horizon spill. I was notified early 
in the morning that the rig was on fire and at risk of sinking. We had 
the first trajectory and oil fate model analysis within a few hours. 
The first of hundreds of such forecasts. I worked 16 hour days until 
the well was capped 87 days later. And the cleanup and damage 
assessment continued for years after that.
    But those of us whose lives have been about responding to spills 
know it's the lesser-known spills as well, including those members of 
this Subcommittee have never heard of or have forgotten, that can 
disrupt coastal communities. I think of the Tampa Bay spill over 30 
years ago, which was the result of the collision of three ships, and 
which provided the foundation for today's critical emergency response 
and damage assessment techniques. Despite emergency cleanup efforts, 
the oil fouled 13 miles of beaches and caused injury to birds, sea 
turtles, mangrove habitat, seagrasses, salt marshes, shellfish beds, as 
well as closing many of the waterways to fishing and boating.
    Every year, NOAA's Office of Response and Restoration responds to 
over 150 oil and chemical spills in U.S. waters. Whenever and wherever 
you drill, produce, transport and store oil, there is risk, and this 
bill would dangerously expand those risks into new regions with limited 
ability to respond, particularly as agency budgets are being cut.
    I'd like to specifically bring the Subcommittee's attention to what 
an oil spill in Alaska would mean if these areas were opened to oil and 
gas. At NOAA, I worked extensively on designing spill response 
alternatives for Alaska and was a signatory to a plan to use chemical 
dispersants if a major spill occurred. Not because this technique is 
favored, but rather based on the recognition that few other response 
technologies could be feasible in remote, ice-prone regions of the 
Arctic.
    The North Slope region of Alaska is larger than many U.S. states 
but home to fewer than 10,000 residents, most of whom are scattered 
among dozens of isolated, small communities only accessible by air. The 
area is hundreds of miles from cities like Fairbanks and Anchorage and 
mobilizing the proper equipment can take weeks. Caring for the number 
of responders needed would be logistically impossible in the region or 
in other areas like the Bering Sea. While sea ice is diminishing in the 
region, the area is still subject to severe storms, long winter 
darkness, and other challenges that would severely complicate any 
cleanup response.
    Even in accessible areas, mechanical cleanup of any large spill is 
highly unlikely. For example, during the BP Deepwater Horizon disaster, 
which was only 50 miles off the Gulf Coast and near the center of the 
oil and gas industry, only a fraction of the spilled oil was recovered, 
despite a response of more than 45,000 people at its peak and access to 
a stockpile of specialized underwater robotic vehicles, multiple 
drilling ships, spill response vessels, and other equipment.
    Eliminating current and future ocean protections as laid out in 
Congressman Higgins' bill opens the door to oil and gas development on 
every coast, risking an oil spill that we won't be able to clean up 
that would cause decades of harm to coastal communities and sensitive 
marine environments.
Opposition to CORE Act of 2025
    While not my specific area of expertise, I want to briefly touch on 
my concerns around the CORE Act of 2025. This bill would prioritize 
seismic testing and exploratory drilling even in ecologically sensitive 
areas, including marine sanctuaries that are currently protected. 
Seismic surveys involve repeated, high-decibel blasts of air guns that 
can travel hundreds of miles underwater, which can seriously impact 
marine wildlife and habitats. Opening previously protected areas to 
these activities introduces serious and obvious risks.
Risks of Offshore Drilling & Cuts to NOAA
    In addition to the increased risk of oil spills, expanding offshore 
drilling threatens billion-dollar coastal economies, including fishing, 
tourism, and recreation, which together support millions of jobs.
    Climate-fueled disasters are already hurting coastal communities, 
driving up insurance rates, and causing property losses. Last year was 
the hottest year on record, with at least 27 climate disasters costing 
the United States over $182 billion. Yet, this administration is moving 
to stop tracking the cost of these extreme weather disasters and 
Members of this committee just voted to repeal funding for coastal 
restoration and resilience in their reconciliation bill. I cannot 
imagine a worse time to open our coastlines to new exploration and 
drilling.
    The risks to our ocean, coastal communities, and offshore workers 
are magnified by the Trump administration's rollback of safety 
regulations for fossil fuel projects, as well as the gutting of key 
federal agencies and programs that help clean up pollution from oil 
spills, like NOAA's Office of Response and Restoration. The 
administration has eliminated roughly 20% of NOAA's workforce through 
mass firings and early retirements, and aims to eliminate even more. 
The agency's critical work is being further degraded by contract 
cancellations and lapses stemming from Secretary Lutnick's freeze on 
contracts over $100,000 which has left scientists unable to conduct 
research.
    We also know that the administration is seeking even more severe 
cuts that will further hinder our ability to prevent, monitor, and 
respond to future oil spills. Leaked documents and the President's FY26 
budget propose a 75% reduction in funding to NOAA Research and a 27% 
cut to NOAA's overall budget. These dramatic staffing and agency budget 
cuts paired with safety rollbacks, mean fewer inspections, weaker spill 
prevention, and slower emergency responses.
    As hurricane season rapidly approaches in just 12 days, the 
combination of reckless cuts and an expanded footprint for offshore 
drilling would spell disaster for our safety, health, and economies.
    In closing, after more than three decades of responding to oil 
spills across the country, I've seen firsthand the major, and often 
irreparable, damage these spills cause, especially in sensitive and 
remote marine ecosystems. The Offshore Lands Authorities Act and the 
CORE Act ignore the voices of millions of Americans who want to see 
American coastlines protected from new drilling. They would increase 
the risk of catastrophic oil spills, including in areas with limited 
response capabilities, just as the very institutions we rely on to 
respond are being weakened by dramatic cuts to their budgets and 
workforce.
    I respectfully urge the Subcommittee to consider these risks before 
moving forward with these two pieces of legislation. I look forward to 
answering any questions you may have.

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Questions Submitted for the Record to Mr. Doug Helton, Former Regional 
 Operations Supervisor, Emergency Response Division, National Oceanic 
                     and Atmospheric Administration

             Questions Submitted by Representative Huffman

    Chairman Stauber and Representative Huffman: Thank you for the 
opportunity to testify before the committee on this important issue and 
I appreciate the opportunity to share additional information for the 
record.

    Question 1. This administration is pushing to open new areas of the 
Arctic Ocean to offshore oil and gas drilling. As an expert on oil 
spill response, what would an oil spill response in the Arctic actually 
look like in practice? What are the unique challenges to responding to 
a spill in that region, both environmental and logistical? Is full 
recovery a realistic possibility?

    Answer. Oil spill response is always challenging, but a response in 
the Arctic would be especially so. The scale of the Alaskan North Slope 
is immense, extreme weather and long winters would hinder response 
efforts and the logistics are very limited. Getting equipment and 
personnel on scene and housing those personnel would be a huge 
challenge. The north slope region is over 2000 miles by sea from Kodiak 
AK and over 1500 miles from Dutch Harbor, Alaska.
    Supplies and equipment could be brought in by air but there are few 
villages and a very limited road system. There are no harbors for large 
ships, and the coastal bays can only be navigated by landing craft, 
barges and shallow water vessels. The response would be slow and rely 
on equipment already staged in the region, with crews working from 
small vessels, helicopters and other small aircraft.
    Response efforts would also be seasonal, with most of the effort 
during the summer months. The most challenging time of year would be 
during ice formation and breakup when little or no response actions 
would be feasible.
    Full recovery of oil is never likely during a spill. Most major 
spills such as the Exxon Valdez and the Deepwater Horizon oil spills 
had only 5 to 10% recovered.

    Question 2. What are the impacts of oil spills on fisheries, both 
commercial and subsistence?

    Answer. The North Slope and coastal Alaskan Arctic has thousands of 
miles of environmentally sensitive coastline with long sand and gravel 
shorelines where oil could penetrate and biologically rich habitats 
such as marshes, sheltered tidal flats, and exposed tidal flats. The 
North Slope supports a number of sensitive biological resources 
including birds, fish and shellfish, and marine mammals. The local 
communities are heavily reliant on marine resources for their 
livelihood and subsistence. Because of this unique relationship with 
the marine environment, much of the coast is utilized for subsistence 
activities and is extremely sensitive to the impacts of marine 
commerce, especially oil spills.
    Commercial fishing is less common in this region, but the broader 
commercial industry in Alaska could certainly be affected by a spill in 
this region. Many consumers would question the wholesomeness of Alaskan 
seafood in general without understanding the location in which their 
products are harvested. If a spill were to happen in the Bering Sea 
however impacts to the industry could be direct and enormous because 
many of the largest seafood ports in the United States are in this 
region.

    Question 3. H.R. 513 and H.R. 2556 would facilitate offshore oil 
and gas drilling in long protected areas of the U.S. Outer Continental 
Shelf, including the Atlantic, Pacific, 27 Alaska, and the Eastern 
Gulf. While the more catastrophic potential impacts of oil spills were 
discussed during the hearing, oil and gas drilling also involves 
frequent smaller-scale spills. How common are small spills, and what 
effects do they have on ecosystems and coastal communities?

    Answer. Large oil spills like the Exxon Valdez are fortunately rare 
but small spills are very common. The US Coast Guard gets around 6000 
or so notifications a year annually of spills in US waters, and NOAA 
typically responds to 150 to 200 of the larger more complicated 
incidents. Offshore oil and gas development requires specialized 
vessels, tugs, barges crew boats, and other work boats and these 
annually contribute to a number of small spills. These vessels need to 
be fueled and maintained and the supporting port infrastructure, 
including refineries, tank farms and pipelines, all add to the risk of 
small operational spills. Cumulatively these small spills can be 
harmful to coastal ecosystems.
    Question 4. Is there anything else you would like to add for the 
record?

    Answer. Much of the focus of offshore oil and gas development is on 
the risks from exploration and production, but still responders also 
need to be prepared for transportation related incidents. A substantial 
fraction of the US crude oil production, as well as refined products, 
is exported. The great circle shipping routes for the West Coast and 
Alaska goes through the Aleutians to Asia.
    In the near future, routes may go through the Arctic. These are 
remote areas with limited marine salvage and rescue capacity. Rescue 
tugs may be days or weeks away. Even a small mechanical breakdown of a 
tanker may quickly escalate into a major marine casualty.
    Responders need to consider the likely shipping routes and the 
risks inherent in those routes.
    In recent years, the U.S. has produced record amounts of oil 
offshore, and this administration wants to expand that. The proposed 
bills will increase production without recognition of the increased 
risk of spills. And we are going in the wrong direction.
    Planning and preparedness for spills big and small has been 
substantially impaired with the recent cuts to NOAA budgets and 
staffing. The frequency and risk of spills has not declined, but NOAA's 
response team is now much smaller, with major gaps in coverage in 
California, Texas, and the Great Lakes. The remaining team is now 
facing contracting, hiring, budget, travel and procurement roadblocks 
that are making it harder to do the work. The team that remains, 
working even harder to fulfill the mission, is soon expecting to see 
further reductions in force.
    Key contracts are not being renewed. Sooner or later, the public 
will feel this. These changes are seriously harming our national 
preparedness for managing oil spills.

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    Mr. Ezell. Thank you for your testimony.
    The gentleman yields. Mr. Kief, you are now recognized for 
5 minutes.

   STATEMENT OF CORY KIEF, DIRECTOR OF BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT, 
             CROSBY TUGS, LLC, GALLIANO, LOUISIANA

    Mr. Kief. Chairman Stauber, Mr. Ezell, Ranking Member 
Ansari, and all the Committee members in attendance today, it 
is an honor and privilege to come before you today. I am here 
today to share my thoughts on the recent bills to be introduced 
in the 119th Congress by Congressman Higgins and Congressman 
Hunt.
    As I understand, these two bills would limit the executive 
authority of POTUS relative to cancellation of lease sales and 
better identify and evaluate what is available for development 
and production of natural resources in this great Nation.
    Let me start by explaining the service industry that I 
represent. I am the Director of Business Development and 
Governmental Affairs for Crosby Tugs, located in Galliano, 
Louisiana. We provide marine towing services for the energy and 
civil sectors of the U.S. Our fleet of 130 vessels navigate the 
inland waters, rivers, gulfs, and oceans of this great Nation. 
We operate domestically and internationally. I have 49 years of 
experience in this industry and began my service as an ordinary 
seaman and worked through the ranks to become an executive in 
this field. I also serve in several civic capacities, as 
outlined in my biography.
    My comments on Congressman Higgins's bill is that limiting 
the authority of POTUS to withdraw lands from leasing that are 
necessary for offshore production of energy is critical. The 
U.S. needs every electron, barrel of oil, foot of gas it can 
harvest to meet growing energy demands.
    My comments on Congressman Hunt's bill are that there are 
so many regions in this Nation that are off limits which are 
vital to our Nation's goal for energy independence. I do 
believe that the last evaluations were done in some regions in 
the 1960s, which were incomplete and outdated. I am sure that 
new seismic technology today could help us better understand 
just exactly what is out there. I do believe that would be good 
to know.
    Also, we have Canada to the north, Russia to the northwest, 
Mexico and Cuba to the south, maybe actively harvesting 
resources from our region that we should be harvesting.
    These bills complement each other. The Offshore Lands 
Authorities Act makes sure lands are available for leasing for 
generations to come, and only the most sensitive areas can be 
withdrawn, and must be reconsidered every 20 years in order to 
be withdrawn again. No more permanent withdrawals.
    The CORE Act looks at these areas and lets policymakers 
like Dr. Cruickshank here from BOEM know the resource potential 
so that when leasing occurs it can be directed in a strategic 
way. It is as simple as that.
    Without the areas to lease, operations like those of Crosby 
Tugs and other vessel operators, rig workers, engineers, 
service companies, and others are in jeopardy of being phased 
out. Without resource assessments, the already dysfunctional 
Federal Government will be left to make decisions with even 
less information and outright outdated and inaccurate 
information.
    Although these measures are important, in no way are they 
near enough to have a national energy policy that is 
substantial enough to attract investment. Mr. Chairman and 
Ranking Member, you all may as well come to terms that the U.S. 
is simply not an attractive place to invest in the energy 
sector. This Nation must fix the permitting process, and we 
must do it for all energy sources and all infrastructure 
projects. Too much time is being wasted bickering about which 
sector of energy is better than the other, too much blame about 
who shut down oil and gas and who shut down renewables, when 
the fact is that all sectors of energy should be brought 
online. And that is what I said, all sectors of energy.
    There is no place in the world that wakes up every morning 
demanding less energy. All regions of the world want more and 
more. There is a smart way to do it, but it seems that you 
haven't figured that out yet. If you don't figure it out soon, 
we will be forced to buy energy from some other places in the 
world who will capitalize on our weaknesses.
    Did you know that the revenue generated for the U.S. 
Treasury by the sale of leases and royalties generated by the 
production of oil and gas was second only to Federal income 
taxes?
    Millions of people depend on the energy sector for their 
jobs. They are negatively affected by government overreach, as 
well, all because our government can't get its act together. 
Thank goodness we have a Nation who wants energy independence, 
but the good people of this Nation don't have a government that 
we can depend on to make that happen.
    The messaging is wrong, as well. It is insane to believe 
that renewables will replace fossil fuels, but we can bring 
another source of energy online that will help to satisfy the 
needs of energy, and we have done it in the past without 
sacrificing other energy inputs.
    The political machine is hurting us. The world is watching 
and forming their own opinion about how great this Nation 
really is. I believe these bills are a step in the right 
direction to begin to get the U.S. back on track to have better 
energy policies, but this Committee and the Federal Government 
have much more work to do, as well. We deserve better. We are 
depending on you. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Kief follows:]
                    Prepared Statement of Cory Kief

    Good morning, Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and all of 
the committee members in attendance today. It is an honor and a 
privilege to come before you today!
    I am here today to share my thought on the recent bills to be 
introduced in the 119th Congress by Congressman Clay Higgins (H.R. 513) 
and Congressman Wesley Hunt (H.R. 2556). As I understand, these two 
bills would limit the executive authority of POTUS relative to 
cancellations of lease sales, and to better identify and evaluate what 
is available for development and production of natural resources in 
this great nation.
    Let me start by explaining the Service industry that I represent. I 
am the Director of Business Development and Governmental Affairs for 
Crosby Tugs located in Galliano, LA. We provide marine towing services 
for the energy and civil sectors of the U.S. Our fleet of 130 vessels 
navigate the inland waters, rivers, gulf and oceans of this great 
nation. We operate domestically and internationally. I have 49 years of 
experience in this industry and began my service as an ordinary seaman 
and worked through the ranks to become an executive in this field. I 
also serve in several civic capacities as outlined in my biography.
    My comments on Congressman Higgins' bill are that limiting the 
authority of POTUS to withdraw lands from leasing, that are necessary 
for offshore production of energy, is critical. The U.S. needs every 
electron, barrel of oil, or foot of gas it can harvest to meet growing 
energy demands.
    My comments on Congressman Hunts' bill are that there are so many 
regions in this nation that are off limits which are vital to our 
nation's goal for energy independence. I do believe that the last 
evaluations were done, in some regions, in the 1960's which are 
incomplete and outdated. I'm sure that new seismic technology today 
could help to better understand just exactly what is out there. I do 
believe that would be good to know! Also, Canada to the North, Russia 
to the Northwest, Mexico and Cuba to the south may be actively 
harvesting resources from our regions that WE should be harvesting.
    These bills complement each other. The Offshore Lands Authorizes 
Act makes sure lands are available for leasing for generations to come 
and only the most sensitive areas can be withdrawn and must be 
reconsidered every 20 years in order to be withdrawn again. No more 
permanent withdraws. The CORE Act looks at these areas and lets policy 
makers, like Dr. Cruickshank here from BOEM, know the resource 
potential, so that when leasing occurs it can be directed in a 
strategic way. It's as simple as that.
    Without areas to lease, operations like those of Crosby Tugs and 
many other vessel operators, rig workers, engineers, service companies 
and others are in jeopardy of being phased out. Without resource 
assessments, the already dysfunctional federal government will be left 
to make decisions with even less information, and outright outdated and 
inaccurate information.
    Although these measures are important, in no way are they near 
enough to have a national energy policy that is substantial enough to 
attract investment. Mr. Chairman and Ranking member, you all may as 
well come to terms that the U.S. is simply NOT an attractive place to 
invest in the energy sector. This nation must fix the permitting 
processes and we must do it for all energy sources and all 
infrastructure projects. Too much time is being wasted bickering about 
which sector of energy is better than the other. Too much blame about 
who shut down Oil and Gas, and who shut down renewables. When the fact 
is that ALL sectors of energy should be brought on line. That's right . 
. . I said ALL!
    There is no place in the world that wakes up every morning 
demanding less energy. ALL regions of the world want more, and more. 
There is a smart way to do it, but it seems that you haven't figured 
that out yet. If you don't figure it out soon, we will be forced to buy 
energy from some other places in the world who will capitalize on our 
weaknesses.
    Did you know that the revenue generated for the U.S. Treasury by 
the sale of leases and royalties generated by the production of Oil and 
Gas was second only to Federal Income taxes? Millions of people who 
depend on the energy sector for jobs. They are negatively affected by 
government overreach as well, all because our government can't get its 
act together. Thank goodness we have a nation who wants energy 
independence, but the good people of this nation don't have a 
government that we can depend on to make that happen.
    As my grandmother used to say . . . Everybody wants to go to 
heaven, but nobody wants to die. Everybody wants to lose weight, but 
nobody wants to stop eating and start exercising.
    The messaging is wrong as well. It is insane to believe that 
renewables will replace fossil fuels. But we can bring another source 
of energy on line that will help to satisfy the need for energy and 
we've done it in the past without sacrificing other energy inputs. The 
political machine is hurling us. The world is watching and forming 
their own opinion about how great this nation really is.
    I believe these bills are a step in the right direction to begin to 
get the U.S. back on track to have better energy policies but this 
committee and the federal government has more work to do as well.
    We deserve better. Thank You!

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    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Kief. The Committee will now 
recognize members for 5 minutes for questioning, and I now 
recognize myself for 5 minutes. I will start with you, Mr. 
Kief.
    Is it true that the current mobile offshore drilling rig 
count in the United States has drastically declined in the last 
20 years, and cannot in reality support a drill, drill, drill 
program?
    Mr. Kief. That is correct, sir.
    Mr. Ezell. Why is that? And can anything be done about it?
    Mr. Kief. Well, I am going to read to you my past testimony 
from 2011 that I did before the Committee on Natural Resources 
when Chairman Hastings was here. ``Drilling contractors are 
leaving the Gulf to go to work in other countries that have the 
ability to obtain steady financial commitments. These drilling 
contractors have already demonstrated they will not stay in the 
U.S. waiting for the government and the operators to get their 
act together and iron out the wrinkles in this new regulatory 
environment. Service companies such as ours, who depend on this 
system, are now facing severe economic decline due to this lack 
of efficiency.''
    We just can't simply get our act together to figure out how 
to compete with the rest of the world. Bottom line.
    Mr. Ezell. Mr. Kief, the CORE Act and Offshore Lands 
Authorities Act, OLAA, are both critical bills to realize an 
American energy dominance for the future, but especially 
important for coastal communities. As you well know, Texas, 
Louisiana, Alabama, and Mississippi are recipients of GOMESA 
funding paid directly as a percentage of offshore oil and gas 
receipts. Do you think that both bills will ensure that Gulf 
States realize funds for generations to come since OLAA 
identifies more resources that can be produced and the other, 
prevents these resources from being taken off the books?
    Mr. Kief. I certainly do believe that the coastal States 
are depending on that revenue that is generated from royalties 
and from production. The problem that we have is constantly we 
address Congress, and everybody wants to talk about production, 
production, production, production. What we are missing is 
exploration and development.
    I built a small business by reading lease sales. And you 
know what the lease sales for the last 10 years tells me? This 
is not a good place. And what is in jeopardy is our revenue 
that is being generated from GOMESA or GOAESA, whatever you 
want to call it now.
    But the point is that Louisiana has constitutionally 
protected that money that we spend on coastal protection and 
restoration only. I am the President of our local levee 
district. We depend on that funding to build a resiliency for 
our people who live along the coast.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you. I want to give you another minute to 
speak about the importance of GOMESA. And I understand you are 
involved with public infrastructure in Louisiana, as well.
    Mr. Kief. Yes, sir. I am the President of the Association 
of Levee Boards for the great State of Louisiana. I'm proud of 
that.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you very much.
    I now recognize Ms. Ansari for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you.
    I want to thank you, Mr. Phipps, for attending our hearing 
today. I do believe there is some important context that is 
missing from our discussion of this bill and the expansion of 
your Bull Mountains mine.
    First, I would like to enter into the record this New York 
Times expose titled, ``A Faked Kidnaping and Cocaine: a Montana 
Mine's Descent Into Chaos.''
    For those who aren't familiar, this expose is written about 
your coal company, Signal Peaks, and details some extremely 
concerning behavior from previous executives. Mr. Phipps, yes 
or no, is it true that nine executives of Signal Peak Energy 
have been convicted or charged as part of a scheme involving 
embezzlement, bribery, and a faked kidnaping?
    Mr. Phipps. That was prior to my time, and I don't believe 
it was nine.
    Ms. Ansari. Say yes or no.
    Mr. Phipps. That is my answer.
    Ms. Ansari. All right, it is a yes. Is it true that a 
former Vice President of Signal Peak pressured, bribed, and 
threatened workers not to report injuries that they suffered on 
the job?
    Mr. Phipps. That was before my time at Signal Peak Energy.
    Ms. Ansari. Is it true?
    Mr. Phipps. The owners of Signal Peak Energy did the right 
thing when they found out about this behavior. They 
cooperated----
    Ms. Ansari. It is a yes or no----
    Mr. Phipps [continuing]. With authorities.
    Ms. Ansari. Mr. Phipps, it is a yes-or-no question.
    Mr. Phipps. This was before my time.
    Ms. Ansari. All right. It is a yes. And three, is it true 
that a United States attorney stated that Signal Peak's actions 
demonstrate ``utter disregard for environmental and worker 
health and safety standards''?
    Mr. Phipps. No, Signal Peak currently complies with all 
Federal and State laws.
    Ms. Ansari. Is it true that a United States Attorney stated 
that this happened? Yes or no.
    Mr. Phipps. Prior to my time, I don't know.
    Ms. Ansari. It is kind of bizarre that you don't know much 
about your company prior to your time, but Signal Peak was 
fined $1 million and sentenced to 3 years of probation for 
violating environmental and safety regulations. This is the 
kind of company that Republicans want to sell off our Federal 
lands to without proper review, especially of the climate 
impacts. Frankly, I think that is a disgrace and the American 
people deserve better.
    Mr. Helton, I want to thank you for your many years of 
Federal service. Congratulations on your retirement. Thank you 
for taking the time to be here today.
    The bills on today's agenda are part of a significant 
action to expand fossil fuel development, especially offshore 
drilling, across Federal lands and waters, all under the guise 
of a so-called energy emergency. But the United States, as you 
know, is the largest producer of oil and gas in the world. We 
are producing more than any other country in history. We are 
also a top exporter, which does increase our energy costs here 
at home. Interestingly, all of the coal from the coal mine I 
was just asking about is exported to Japan and Singapore.
    Mr. Helton, if we significantly expand offshore oil and 
gas, especially in places like Alaska, where is that oil most 
likely to go, and what are the risks of transporting that oil 
and gas, if it might, for example, head west to Asia?
    Mr. Helton. Thank you for the question. I am not sure 
exactly how the oil will be transported or where, but my 
suspicion is that much of the oil will be exported, especially 
from Alaska. There aren't the routes of transmission to get the 
oil from the Chukchi Sea and Beaufort Sea currently to the 
Alaska Pipeline. And even if it gets into the pipeline system, 
it is a chance that a substantial amount of that would be 
heading west to Japan and Korea and other Asian locations. And 
from my perspective and concern, is that there is very little 
response capacity in that region.
    So historically, tankers would leave Valdez and head down 
to California or Washington ports. Along the way there is 
plenty of assets and rescue tugs and equipment if a vessel gets 
in trouble. But if a vessel heads west to the Aleutians, it is 
unlikely that there is going to be a rapid response, and a 
simple mechanical problem could lead to a catastrophic 
incident.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you so much.
    I yield back to the Chairman.
    Mr. Stauber [presiding]. Representative Downing, you are up 
for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Downing. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will just jump 
right into it, a question first for Mr. Phipps.
    Can you start by explaining the long history of the Bull 
Mountains mine, and how it has contributed to the region's 
economy over the years?
    Mr. Phipps. So, mining in the Bull Mountains has occurred 
for over 150 years. Signal Peak Energy commercially developed 
the property in 2008 and invested hundreds of millions of 
dollars to bring rail service to the mine and big power that is 
required for a commercial operation. And with that, they 
brought a longwall operation to produce coal domestically for 
power plants in the U.S. And as market forces changed and the 
need for domestic coal dropped, Signal Peak began exporting 
coal, and now 98 percent of our production is exported to Japan 
and South Korea.
    Mr. Downing. Thank you. Signal Peak has made significant 
contributions to the community in Musselshell County and 
beyond. Can you speak to what is at stake for local schools, 
public services, and charitable programs if the mine were to 
close?
    Mr. Phipps. In addition to the extractive taxes and 
royalties that we pay, we also contribute to Musselshell and 
Yellowstone County. Signal Peak has a community foundation 
where we donate millions of dollars to the community that can 
go to anything from fire trucks to playgrounds for kids and 
youth baseball. We also have an endowment where we award 
scholarships to any student from Musselshell County that wants 
to do secondary education. And then we have also done a large 
project recently in Yellowstone County, where we have made the 
largest donation to the City of Billings to construct an ice 
rink for the community.
    Mr. Downing. Thank you. You know, the Federal sections are 
relatively small here, so why is access to this small area of 
Federal coal so critical right now?
    And what would happen to the mine's operations and 
workforce if H.R. 931 was not enacted?
    Mr. Phipps. We have enough coal reserves to remain 
operational through the end of the year. Our mine is shovel-
ready, ready to deploy our longwall into this Federal coal at 
the end of the year. But we also have to develop ahead of the 
longwall with our continuous miner units. So, we will begin 
winding operations down at the end of the year if we don't 
receive approval to mine.
    Mr. Downing. So, what does that mean to workforce? How many 
jobs are lost? What happens there?
    Mr. Phipps. It would probably be 85 percent of our 
workforce.
    Mr. Downing. Thanks. Some of the language was included in 
the reconciliation package the Committee has advanced. So why 
do you believe it is still necessary to move H.R. 931 as a 
standalone bill?
    Mr. Phipps. When we were in front of Judge Molloy on this 
case, OSM represented to the court that they could have the EIS 
completed by July 2024. We were asked if the operation could 
remain open during that time, and our answer to the court was 
we could remain open, however it had to be done on time. Well, 
that case has since closed, and now OSM has failed to meet 
their end of the deal, and we are stuck holding the bag and 
have nowhere else to mine.
    Mr. Downing. Thank you.
    Just in closing, obviously this operation is important to 
Musselshell County, it is important to Yellowstone County, it 
is important to the State of Montana. It is supporting schools, 
charities, families. These are high-paying jobs that are 
spending money in these communities. This is incredibly 
important. And my understanding is, if operations have to stop 
at these Federal sections, that a lot of this coal will be 
essentially sterilized and unrecoverable, at least not 
economically. So, I just want to point out how important this 
is to the communities that I represent and to the State of 
Montana.
    So, on that, Mr. Chair, I yield.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair now recognizes 
Representative Rivas from California's 29th for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Rivas. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    I am glad to see the bipartisan reauthorization for the 
National Landslide Preparedness Program, the National 
Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program, and the Volcano Early 
Warning System Program, all on today's agenda. These programs 
provide critical services to our constituents and help us 
better understand national disasters so we can mitigate risks 
and prepare in advance.
    This is especially relevant for my constituents in the San 
Fernando Valley of Los Angeles who are at risk of experiencing 
earthquakes and landslides. Just over 30 years ago the 
Northridge earthquake devastated the San Fernando Valley, 
killing 58 people, injuring 9,000, and displacing 125,000 
residents.
    Dr. West, can you describe how the National Earthquake 
Hazards Reduction Program can help us both mitigate and respond 
to disasters like the Northridge earthquake?
    Dr. West. Let's try this. I can. I think the, in my 
testimony I called out the four agencies that participate in 
NEHRP. I think they provide a nice outline for the different 
components of your question.
    At the foundational research level, you have the National 
Science Foundation working to advance our core understanding 
of, quite honestly, how earthquakes happen. And on the 
engineering side, doing the research to figure out how 
buildings respond, how structures respond to different kinds of 
forces.
    Then you have the U.S. Geological Survey, who is kind of 
the eyes on the ground of earthquakes, so tracking and 
understanding what is actually happening, as I showed in my 
figure, mapping out what we might expect in the future.
    Then you have FEMA, who contributes not only on the 
recovery side, the response and recovery side that we are all 
very familiar with, but also on the mitigation side. So, 
working with communities, working with cities to identify 
specific future hazards and address risks and address them.
    Then you have the National Institute of Standards and 
Technology, who really takes a lead in coordinating those 
groups, but also in translating those things into building 
codes.
    So all of those pieces come together, I think, to reduce 
the risks from earthquakes.
    Ms. Rivas. Thank you. You know, I agree with you. It is 
clear that these programs do work, and it is important to 
continue investing, especially in science research at NSF and 
other Federal agencies. You know, in California, we have 
Caltech in Southern California that is known for earthquake 
research. And, you know, I have worked there years ago and met 
many scientists and engineers that work in this field and, very 
important, especially for Southern California that is always at 
risk for earthquakes, especially in my district.
    But, you know, I am concerned that staff firings across the 
Federal Government because of DOGE will threaten these services 
and the safety and preparedness of our communities. We are 
already seeing changes to our emergency alert system, you know, 
thanks to these DOGE firings at NOAA which plays a key role in 
safeguarding our communities from natural disasters before and 
after they strike. In fact, the National Weather Service is no 
longer providing weather alerts in languages other than 
English. And this is another attack from the Administration 
towards non-English speakers in this country. We need everyone 
in our communities to be safe and to know what to do in the 
event of a natural disaster.
    You know, in my district, almost 70 percent of households 
report speaking a non-English language as their primary 
language, and, you know, what will my constituents do in the 
next earthquake or landslide, or if they don't get the 
emergency alerts in a language that they read and understand?
    And so, Mr. Helton, I know we have very little time, but 
can you describe how DOGE's firings affect the agency's ability 
to provide similar critical services?
    Mr. Helton. Yes, the cuts to NOAA are across the agency and 
all the divisions. Like you mentioned, the National Weather 
Service has been cut. I know in the concept, in the 
relationship with the oil spill world, there is talk about 
expanding drilling in the Arctic, for example, but the Weather 
Service is no longer offering 24-hour weather forecasts in the 
northern region of Alaska. So that is an example where those 
models and data would be critical for any kind of operational 
response and to model where that oil might go.
    Similarly, the IOOS system, which is the International 
Ocean Observing System, apparently is also slated to be 
defunded, a critical data source that oil spill modelers would 
use to predict where contaminants would spread and how rapidly 
they would get there.
    So, that is just a small snapshot. I think every part of 
NOAA has seen substantial cuts.
    Ms. Rivas. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. I will now recognize 
Representative Hageman for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Hageman. Thank you.
    Mr. Kief, what was the reaction in your State, in the Gulf 
of America, and in your industry when President Biden issued an 
order to withdraw the 600-plus million acres?
    Mr. Kief. Well, as I mentioned before, the way we plan our 
business is based on these things. Robust lease sales usually 
mean that we can make good investments into growing our 
businesses and things of that nature. Those things are just an 
economical turn-off. I mean, now, what are we looking at? And 
when we see these things, we realize that our investment is not 
dead. You know, we have millions of dollars invested into 
equipment and people and services. And when those things 
happen, what are we supposed to do with our investment? And we 
are depending on these things for us to have a viable business.
    Ms. Hageman. And actually produce something that the rest 
of us need, correct?
    Mr. Kief. Well, as I mentioned before in my testimony, I 
don't know anywhere in the world where you wake up and people 
demand less energy. Everybody wants more and more and more 
energy, and we should be working every day to figure out how to 
produce those things in a responsible way.
    Ms. Hageman. We are using more energy today than we used 
yesterday, and tomorrow we will use more energy than we use 
today. That is just the reality of the situation, isn't it?
    Mr. Kief. My--the study that I have been doing shows that 
by the year 2050 that we are going to have a demand that is 
going to increase by 50 percent.
    Ms. Hageman. OK. Luckily, because of the change to 
President Trump's pro-energy agenda, this withdrawal that 
President Biden attempted to do was reversed 14 days later, so 
it was only in place for a short period of time. In that period 
of time, did your industry suffer any harm as a result of the 
withdrawal?
    Mr. Kief. Could you repeat that again, please? I am sorry.
    Ms. Hageman. Sure. Did you suffer any harm during the 14-
day withdrawal that withdrawal was in place under President 
Biden?
    Mr. Kief. Not really, because those impacts aren't felt 
immediately.
    Ms. Hageman. Well, one of the things that we hear of ten 
with energy producers is the word ``certainty,'' and how 
important certainty is in your industry. Why is certainty 
important, Mr. Kief?
    Mr. Kief. Well, because it is the only way that you can 
attract investment. I mean, and it is not just with us, what we 
do as a service industry with a tugboat company. These 
operators in the Gulf of Mexico, they have to decide where they 
are going to make capital investments if they are larger oil 
companies. The smaller independents, they need to go and find 
investment capital and money. And when these things happen, 
they just can't get, you know, attract investment. And it is 
just a wet towel on everything.
    Ms. Hageman. Mr. Phipps, is certainly important for your 
industry?
    Mr. Phipps. Yes, it is. And----
    Ms. Hageman. Why?
    Mr. Phipps. Blue collar workers are attracted in all 
industries. And when you work at a coal mine and there is 
uncertainty on your permitting or whether or not you are going 
to have a job in a year, you are being recruited to go work 
elsewhere. And so, with us not being able to provide certainty 
to our workforce, it has been difficult to retain top talent.
    Ms. Hageman. So, one of the things that I heard earlier 
today is that the so-called renewables are less expensive and 
as reliable as our energy that is produced with coal, natural 
gas, and uranium. And I see, Mr. Kief, that you are shaking 
your head. I find it to be absolutely, utterly, and completely 
100 percent absurd for anybody to make that claim, and I am 
just going to give you a quick example of what I mean by that.
    I was recently on the ninth floor of a power plant near 
Colorado Springs, and I was looking around and I looked across 
the highway I-25 and I saw a solar farm over there. And so, I 
was asking the manager of the facility where I was touring, and 
I said, ``What is the footprint here? About how big is this 
place? It looks to me to be about 300 acres.''
    And he said, ``Yes, probably about 300 acres.''
    I said, ``How about across the road? How about--how big is 
that solar farm? ''
    And he said, ``About 1,500 acres,'' so 5 times larger.
    And I said, ``What is the output? ''
    And he said, ``Two hundred megawatts here.''
    I said, ``How much over there? ''
    He said, ``A hundred and fifty.''
    I said, ``What is your efficiency here? ''
    And he said, ``Eighty-two to eighty-five percent.''
    I said, ``What is the efficiency over there? ''
    And he said, ``Twenty-two percent.'' So when you just look 
at that one metric by which the amount of land necessary per 
unit of energy produced, they are not even comparable.
    The other thing that is so crazy about it is when you talk 
about solar. For 8 to 10 hours every day solar power has a 
catastrophic failure, a catastrophic failure because the sun 
goes down, right? For 8 to 10 hours every single day it can't 
produce electricity. And yet we have people who attack what you 
do, Mr. Kief, and what you do, Mr. Phipps, and attempt to 
prevent us from being able to access these resources with the 
idea that we are going to be able to replace that energy with 
wind and solar. Is that at all feasible, Mr. Phipps?
    Mr. Phipps. No, it is not.
    Ms. Hageman. Mr. Kief?
    Mr. Kief. No, it is not, but it is still important that we 
bring all sources of energy online in some kind of way.
    Ms. Hageman. Sure, but it is also important that we protect 
the ones that we already have that are powered with our 
traditional energy resources, correct?
    Mr. Kief. That is correct.
    Ms. Hageman. All right. Thank you, and I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. The Chair now recognizes Representative Crank 
for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Crank. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all for 
joining us today.
    In 2023 Congress passed the most significant permitting 
reform in over 40 years through the Fiscal Responsibility Act, 
the FRA. This legislation shortened review times, limited what 
qualifies as a major Federal action, and it codified the One 
Federal Decision framework.
    A central goal of these reforms was to provide greater 
certainty and greater timeliness for project applicants, 
ensuring agencies arrive at decisions without unnecessary 
delays. FRA clarified that the 2-year shot clock, if you will, 
for completing an environmental impact statement begins when an 
agency determines that an EIS is required for a proposed 
Federal action. Any extension beyond that timeline must be done 
``in consultation with the applicant,'' ensuring agencies don't 
unilaterally drag out the process.
    Mr. Phipps, despite exceeding the 2-year deadline for the 
EIS, did the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and 
Enforcement consult with Signal Peak in good faith when it 
extended the EIS schedule to 2026?
    Mr. Phipps. No, they did not.
    Mr. Crank. In your testimony, you mentioned that OSM 
undertook additional studies during the EIS process, and 
despite FRA making clear that agencies are not required to 
conduct such studies unless they are truly necessary. In your 
view, did OSM use these additional studies as a means to delay 
the issuance of the EIS?
    Mr. Phipps. Yes, I believe they did.
    Mr. Crank. And then finally, I want to touch on the legal 
challenges. The D.C. District Court dismissed your suit, saying 
that it wasn't ripe because the original 2024 deadline hadn't 
passed yet, even though the agency had already amended its 
timeline to 2026. Do you believe Congress should revisit this 
issue in future permitting reform efforts?
    Mr. Phipps. Yes, I think that would be helpful for 
operators. It is like getting your mid-term report when you are 
failing your class and you say, let's wait until the end of the 
semester to see if I really fail, rather than changing course, 
because OSM did not change course.
    Mr. Crank. And then, specific to that, should project 
applicants be allowed to challenge unreasonable delays before 
the deadline is passed, especially when an agency publicly 
revises those timelines?
    Mr. Phipps. Yes, I think they should be.
    Mr. Crank. OK, thank you.
    Mr. West, the National Landslide Preparedness Act 
additionally reauthorizes the 3D Elevation Program, also known 
as 3DEP, a complete topographical map of the U.S. that is 
important in not only landslide preparedness, but flood 
mapping, forestry, and infrastructure planning, as well. As the 
State geologist from Alaska, do you see 3DEP as playing an 
essential role potentially in combination with other programs 
such as Earth MRI at USGS to help identify mineral deposits?
    Dr. West. Absolutely. Two different pieces there, 
landslides and mineral deposits, and 3DEP has proven 
tremendously valuable in landslides basically happen where we 
have steep terrain, right? That is a prerequisite. And the 3DEP 
program has made it possible to map vast areas and to unleash, 
you know, algorithms, computer technologies to identify those 
areas that are most likely and most prone to landsliding.
    So, what they really do is allow you to move from kind of 
one person in the field doing field investigations to covering 
large areas. And the same analogy, I think, holds for mineral 
exploration.
    Mr. Crank. I hope I am not stealing questions from my 
colleague, Mr. Begich, but do you have any, examples of that in 
Alaska, where that has happened, or where you have used 3DEP?
    Dr. West. You know, I am a seismologist. I can't comment on 
exactly which data sets were used, but the USGS has just 
recently completed a widespread survey of landslide risk around 
the Prince William Sound area, which was premised very heavily 
on topographic data sets. I am not in a position to know 
whether or not 3DEP, which portions of that were 3DEP-informed. 
I would be happy to follow up.
    Mr. Crank. OK, that is fine. No, I appreciate that, and 
thank you for your answers.
    And with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. I will now recognize 
Representative Begich from the great State of Alaska for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, before I 
begin I ask unanimous consent to enter into the record a letter 
addressed to the Chair and Ranking Member of this Committee 
signed by over 460 individuals, including leading experts in 
earthquake and volcano science engineers and members of the 
private sector expressing support for the reauthorization of 
the National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program and the 
National Volcano Early Warning System.
    Mr. Stauber. Without objection.

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    Mr. Begich. Thank you.
    Dr. West, with over 50 active volcanoes in Alaska, many 
directly beneath major air traffic corridors, do you believe 
the Federal Government has appropriately prioritized volcanic 
risk in its hazard mitigation strategy?
    And as a follow-up, what role does the reauthorization of 
NVEWS play in ensuring aviation safety and economic continuity 
for both Alaska and the broader U.S. economy?
    Dr. West. In my opinion, the previous iterations of NVEWS, 
which date back, oh, I don't know, I don't remember the first 
year, I want to say the early aught, actually demonstrates 
Congress's recognition of the problem. There is, of course, 
more work to be done. We have not completed the full build-out, 
the full suite of tools that would be available under NVEWS, 
but I think it would be wrong to, I certainly wouldn't want to 
suggest that it is a hazard that has been ignored.
    Mr. Begich. And do you believe that the NVEWS work products 
help to ensure aviation safety and economic continuity?
    And can you speak to that as it relates specifically to 
Alaska?
    Dr. West. Without a doubt is the short answer. And, you 
know, the long answer is the ability to forecast where ash 
might occur in the air is pivotal in identifying regions where 
planes shouldn't be flying, where we might want to avoid. But 
also, when eruptions occur, a lot of things happen very, very 
quickly, right? All of a sudden there wasn't ash in the air, 
and now there is a huge area that is. So, putting that together 
with weather patterns and understanding where that ash is going 
to go, I live in Fairbanks, hundreds of miles north of the 
Aleutians, and we have flight routes impacted by ash. So those 
products are tremendously valuable.
    I might have strayed from your question.
    Mr. Begich. No, that is great, and I think it is worth 
mentioning just for the benefit of others and for the 
Committee, Alaska has one of the busiest cargo airports in the 
world. I believe we are number three right now in terms of 
cargo air traffic in Anchorage. Many of the flights that 
originate on the West Coast going to Asia fly directly over 
Alaska on the great circle route. So, it is absolutely 
important that we have this capacity, and it is a funded 
capacity.
    You noted that real-time monitoring not only saves lives, 
but significantly reduces economic costs after disasters. In 
Alaska that is especially important because of our distance 
from supply chains and other emergency services. Can you speak 
to how programs like the NEHRP and NVEWS, as reauthorized by 
these bills, can help Alaska prepare more effectively for both 
earthquakes and volcanic events, and reduce long-term 
infrastructure repair costs?
    Dr. West. Yes. In 2018 there was a magnitude 7.1 earthquake 
essentially underneath Anchorage. It did tremendous damage. 
Hundreds and hundreds of buildings experienced some damage. 
There were schools that were closed permanently. However, not a 
single building collapsed in its entirety. And remarkably, 
there were no fatalities. That was not an accident. That was 
because of construction practices over the course of decades 
that were informed by the building codes which are a direct 
product of NEHRP.
    So, while that is a damaging event and we are never going 
to make all impacts of earthquakes go away, I think that is a 
remarkable success story.
    Mr. Begich. I was in that earthquake. It was remarkable. It 
was extraordinarily powerful because of its proximity to 
Anchorage, and my house still stands. So, thank you for your 
work.
    And I yield the balance of my time.
    Mr. Stauber. Representative Ansari.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you, Chairman. I would like to ask 
unanimous consent to enter into the record this letter from a 
coalition of 22 organizations opposing H.R. 2556, the CORE Act.

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    I would also like to enter letters in support of Biden's 
permanent protections against offshore drilling in the 
Atlantic, Pacific, eastern Gulf, and Alaska's northern Bering 
Sea. These include letters from the House, Senate, Business 
Alliances for Coastal Protection, the Defense Support 
Initiatives Committee, and 197 national and local non-
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    Finally, I would like to enter for the record this roundup 
of statements of support from Members of Congress, governors, 
and State officials, local elected officials, national 
organizations, and tribal organizations. Thank you.
    Mr. Stauber. Without objection.

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    Mr. Stauber. I will now recognize myself for 5 minutes of 
questioning.
    Under the National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, along 
with bipartisan reforms that were signed into law by President 
Biden last Congress, agencies have 2 years to complete an 
environmental impact statement from the date when an agency 
determines that such an EIS is necessary for the proposed 
action. Mr. Phipps, when did the department realize an EIS 
would be necessary for this modification for your project?
    Mr. Phipps. December 2022.
    Mr. Stauber. And when was the hearing?
    Mr. Phipps. The final hearing was in February 2023.
    Mr. Stauber. Did the department start the EIS process on 
that date?
    Mr. Phipps. We started the EIS process, selected a 
contractor. We were given a schedule that the EIS would be 
complete by July 2024. And time and time again, every time we 
met, the schedule would slip by 1 month, 2 months. Pretty soon 
the schedule slipped all the way until 2026.
    Mr. Stauber. Why do you think that happened?
    Mr. Phipps. I believe it was intentional.
    Mr. Stauber. And the law says for the Fiscal Responsibility 
Act for an environmental assessment it is a 1-year shot clock. 
That is law. And for an EIS it is a 2-year shot clock. That is 
law. We know that the Biden administration took that as 
recommendations, and it is unfortunate.
    When did they start?
    Mr. Phipps. So, the notice of intent was in August 2023 
after months and months of delaying just to get the notice of 
intent out. So, they officially started it in December 2022, 
when they notified----
    Mr. Stauber. Yes.
    Mr. Phipps [continuing]. Signal Peak and the court that an 
EIS needed to be complete, but it wasn't until August 2023 
where they officially did a notice of intent. But the BUILDER 
Act says the earlier of the two.
    Mr. Stauber. How many NEPA reviews have you completed for 
this specific modification?
    Mr. Phipps. This is our fourth.
    Mr. Stauber. This is your fourth NEPA review for this 
modification?
    Mr. Phipps. That is correct.
    Mr. Stauber. And how long has this process taken overall?
    Mr. Phipps. The initial leasing of the coal was in 2011, 
and we began mining Federal coal in 2015. And constant 
litigation has been on and off, or they have been successful on 
some areas but they have also been denied on others. But it has 
been constant litigation for a decade.
    Mr. Stauber. That is really uncalled for.
    Mr. Kief, as we have discussed, Representative Higgins's 
bill would limit the size and duration of offshore withdrawals 
and require details of economic and resource assessments before 
areas are locked away from development. For companies like 
Crosby Tugs, which support offshore engineering, procurement, 
construction, and installation, how would maintaining more 
predictable, long-term access to offshore areas impact your 
business investment decisions, workforce stability, and ability 
to plan for future operations?
    Mr. Kief. It is the only way to gain stability, for us to 
be able to plan in an efficient manner. There is no way in the 
world that we could depend on what we are seeing right now. It 
is just too soft. You know, I live in south Louisiana. I am not 
walking on rocky ground in Texas. We are walking in the marsh.
    Mr. Stauber. Right.
    Mr. Kief. And this is the same thing, you know? How can we 
walk in this marsh? We can't. It is just not substantial enough 
for us to be able to depend on.
    Now, how would it affect us if it would be much more 
stable? Well, we are a company that likes to grow and be 
diverse, you know, and we just don't have it. We don't, we are 
not seeing what we need to be able to do those things.
    Mr. Stauber. Dr. West, turning to USGS programs, it is my 
understanding that there can be often a domino effect from one 
of the hazards we discussed today. Is that correct?
    Dr. West. Yes, it is. Earthquakes trigger landslides, 
landslides happen as a result of volcanoes. These are all 
inter-related hazards. And I would have to point out tsunamis, 
which are not part of our story today, but certainly with 
NOAA----
    Mr. Stauber. Yes.
    Dr. West [continuing]. Sitting next to me.
    Mr. Stauber. Yes, you answered my last question, which are 
how are these USGS programs interconnected? Is it safe to say 
these programs build off each other, and are thus more 
effective when operated together?
    Dr. West. I think that is absolutely a good statement. The 
individuals, the scientists who sit behind these programs and 
the systems they operate are all interconnected.
    Mr. Stauber. I want to thank you all for your valuable 
testimony and time today.
    The members of the Subcommittee may have some additional 
questions for the witnesses, and we will ask you to respond to 
those in writing. Under Committee rule 3, members of the 
Committee must submit questions to the Committee clerk by 5 
p.m. on Friday, May 23. The hearing record will be held open 
for 10 business days for these responses.
    If there is no further business, without objection, the 
Committee stands adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 4:41 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]

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                        Statement for the Record
         Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement, 
                    U.S. Department of the Interior
H.R. 931, To allow certain Federal minerals to be mined consistent with 
  the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification, and for other purposes

    May 20, 2025

    Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and members of the 
Subcommittee, the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement 
(OSMRE) is pleased to provide this Statement for the Record on H.R. 
931, a bill to allow certain Federal minerals to be mined consistent 
with the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification, and for other 
purposes.

Background
    The Bull Mountains Mine No. 1 (Bull Mountains Mine) is an 
underground coal mine in Musselshell and Yellowstone Counties in 
Montana. Bull Mountains Mine is currently mining limited portions of 
non-Federal coal that is accessible without access to Federal coal 
reserves. The mine has reported that without approval to mine Federal 
coal, the mine will run out of coal in late--2025 and be forced to 
close, necessitating layoffs of 85-90% of the approximately 250 
employees.
    On his first day in office, President Trump issued Executive Order 
14156, Declaring a National Energy Emergency, to support the 
development of a reliable, diversified, and affordable supply of energy 
to meet our nation's needs. In accordance with that directive, in early 
May, OSMRE began to carry out the environmental review process to 
support the expansion of the Bull Mountains Mine. If approved, this 
project is expected to significantly contribute to creating jobs and 
economic prosperity for Americans and support the nation's energy 
independence.

H.R. 931, a bill to allow certain Federal minerals to be mined 
        consistent with the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification, 
        and for other purposes
    H.R. 931 would authorize Federal coal reserves leased under Federal 
Coal Lease MTM 97988 to be mined in accordance with the Bull Mountains 
Mining Plan Modification and would direct the Secretary of the Interior 
to approve the Bull Mountains Mining Plan Modification within 30 days 
of enactment. OSMRE supports the intent of the bill to address the 
national energy emergency and would welcome the opportunity to work 
with the sponsor and Subcommittee on technical changes, including 
verifying the Federal land description to ensure alignment with the 
full scope of the Federal coal lease and referencing the current status 
of the mining plan modification.

Conclusion
    Thank you for the opportunity to provide this Statement for the 
Record.

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                        Statement for the Record
        U.S. Geological Survey, U.S. Department of the Interior
 H.R. 2250, National Landslide Preparedness Act Reauthorization Act of 
    2025; H.R. 3168, National Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program 
   Reauthorization Act of 2025; and H.R. 3176, to amend the John D. 
     Dingell, Jr. Conservation, Management, and Recreation Act to 
  reauthorize the National Volcano Early Warning and Monitoring System

    May 20, 2025

    Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, thank you for inviting the 
Department to provide this statement on three bills that reauthorize 
key programs within the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) that help make 
the United States a more hazard-ready nation.
    For geologic hazards such as earthquakes, landslides, and 
volcanoes, the USGS provides timely and accurate information to 
emergency managers and response officials. USGS monitoring and 
geospatial data combined with multi-disciplinary expertise deliver 
real-time situational awareness and long-term hazard assessments to 
inform and educate at-risk communities during crises and to anticipate 
and prepare for future geologic hazard events.

H.R. 2250
    Landslides are a deadly and costly hazard that impact every U.S. 
state and territory. The USGS is the lead Federal agency providing 
actionable landslide hazard and risk information to decision makers and 
the public. We also lead advances in the use of lidar to map topography 
to ever higher fidelity, valuable applications of which are landslide 
hazard assessments and other core public safety and commercial 
applications. The National Landslide Preparedness Act (NLPA), first 
signed into law by President Trump in January 2021, has accelerated 
efforts to reduce Americans' exposure to landslide hazard and risk 
through the National Landslide Hazard Reduction Program and 3D 
Elevation Program. Under the Act, the USGS has expanded national 
coverage of landslide inventories and hazard assessments; delivered 
faster, more accurate debris flow early warnings to state and Federal 
partners, including post-wildfire; developed emergency response 
protocols for landslide disasters; and dramatically increased the 
coverage of high-resolution topographic data available to support 
hazard analyses across the United States. We have also established 
interagency and advisory bodies to ensure efficiency and oversight 
called for by the Act.
    Studying landslides requires more than just lidar, and lidar is 
used to study more than just landslides, but the association of the two 
activities by NLPA is appropriate and effective. In addition, expanding 
coordination and development of improved mapping of stream networks 
from lidar will improve community risk assessments of destructive post-
wildfire debris flows.
    H.R. 2250 would reauthorize NLPA through 2030. Changes to NLPA, 
such as new priorities focusing on atmospheric rivers and other 
hydrologic events, as well as new frameworks for regional stakeholder 
participation, will improve implementation in the future. The 
Department supports the intent of H.R. 2250, but would like to work 
with the Sponsor to align the authorization levels to the President's 
Budget.

H.R. 3168
    Earthquakes represent one of our Nation's most significant and 
costly natural hazards. Thirty-seven U.S. States, and all U.S. 
Territories have experienced an earthquake exceeding magnitude five 
over the past two centuries, and 50 percent of States have a 
significant potential for future damaging shaking. The USGS and our 
partner agencies, the National Science Foundation, the National 
Institute of Standards and Technology, and the Federal Emergency 
Management Agency, have participated in the interagency National 
Earthquake Hazards Reduction Program (NEHRP) since its inception in 
1977, following the San Fernando Earthquake in Los Angeles. NEHRP has 
helped make America ``earthquake ready'' with innovative science, 
extensive seismic monitoring networks, and the first earthquake early 
warning system in the U.S., ShakeAlert. NEHRP exists to reduce the 
losses associated with earthquake hazards, in recognition that although 
earthquakes are inevitable, their consequences for people and the built 
environment are not.
    Under NEHRP, the USGS recently published an unprecedented 50-state 
National Seismic Hazard model, describing the likelihood and potential 
effects of earthquakes nationwide. The USGS also developed and deployed 
the first-ever earthquake early warning system for the U.S., called 
ShakeAlert, which is now live across California, Oregon, and Washington 
and which has delivered potentially life-saving information on pending 
shaking for dozens of earthquakes. Since its inception, ShakeAlert has 
delivered real-time information on tens of thousands of earthquakes 
domestically and abroad, including impact estimates and aftershock 
forecasts, through some of the most heavily utilized web pages across 
the Federal government, receiving tens of millions of visitors even on 
days without significant earthquake activity. In collaboration with 
FEMA, the USGS has recently updated estimates of annualized earthquake 
losses for the nation, showing reductions in loss when measured against 
increases in building value, which indicates progress in reducing 
building vulnerability largely thanks to the efforts of NEHRP.
    H.R. 3168 would reauthorize NEHRP through 2030 and includes several 
improvements to NEHRP the USGS supports. In particular, the bill would 
integrate the Chair of the Scientific Earthquake Studies Advisory 
Committee into the NEHRP oversight structure. This body is the most 
important external advisory to the USGS related to earthquake science, 
and codifying its role within NEHRP will strengthen the program. H.R. 
3168 would also authorize future expansion of earthquake early warning 
and the dissemination of aftershock forecasts after significant 
earthquakes, both of which are tools the USGS and our NEHRP partners 
will need to make America even safer from earthquakes. The Department 
supports the intent of H.R. 3168, but would like to work with the 
Sponsor to align the authorization levels to the President's Budget.

H.R. 3176
    The National Volcano Early Warning System (NVEWS) authorization was 
first signed into law by President Trump in 2019 to establish a unified 
and integrated volcano monitoring system for the Nation to ensure 
public safety from volcano hazards. The USGS has pursued this objective 
by merging our volcano observatories into one interoperable Volcano 
Science Center, and we have begun planning a national volcano 
information center to make our data more useable and provide watch 
office capabilities around the clock. Earlier this year, unrest at Mt. 
Spurr west of Anchorage reminded us why volcano monitoring is crucial 
to the Nation. Hundreds of thousands of Americans and millions of 
dollars of cargo traveling by plane can be impacted by eruptions. The 
USGS volcano monitoring capabilities enabled by NVEWS are essential to 
addressing gaps in coverage keeping Americans safe.
    H.R. 3176 would reauthorize NVEWS through 2030. The Department 
supports the bill as introduced.

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