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                     NOW ORE NEVER: THE IMPORTANCE
                      OF DOMESTIC MINING FOR U.S.
                           NATIONAL SECURITY

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                           OVERSIGHT HEARING

                               before the

                       SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND
                           MINERAL RESOURCES

                                 of the

                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES
                     U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                    ONE HUNDRED NINETEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                       Thursday, February 6, 2025

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                     COMMITTEE ON NATURAL RESOURCES

                     BRUCE WESTERMAN, AR, Chairman
                  ROBERT J. WITTMAN, VA, Vice Chairman
                   JARED HUFFMAN, CA, Ranking Member

Robert J. Wittman, VA		     Raul M. Grijalva, AZ
Tom McClintock, CA		     Joe Neguse, CO
Paul Gosar, AZ			     Teresa Leger Fernandez, NM
Aumua Amata C. Radewagen, AS	     Melanie A. Stansbury, NM
Doug LaMalfa, CA		     Val T. Hoyle, OR
Daniel Webster, FL		     Seth Magaziner, RI
Russ Fulcher, ID		     Jared Golden, ME
Pete Stauber, MN		     Dave Min, CA
Tom Tiffany, WI			     Maxine Dexter, OR
Lauren Boebert, CO		     Pablo Jose Hernandez, PR
Cliff Bentz, OR			     Emily Randall, WA
Jen Kiggans, VA			     Yassamin Ansari, AZ
Wesley P. Hunt, TX		     Sarah Elfreth, MD
Mike Collins, GA		     Adam Gray, CA
Harriet M. Hageman, WY		     Luz Rivas, CA
Mark Amodei, NV			     Nydia M. Velazquez, NY
Tim Walberg, MI			     Debbie Dingell, MI
Mike Ezell, MS			     Darren Soto, FL
Celeste Maloy, UT		     Julia Brownley, CA
Addison McDowell, NC
Jeff Crank, CO
Nick Begich, AK
Jeff Hurd, CO
Mike Kennedy, UT

                    Vivian Moeglein, Staff Director
                      William David, Chief Counsel
               Ana Unruh Cohen, Democratic Staff Director
                   http://naturalresources.house.gov

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              SUBCOMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND MINERAL RESOURCES

                       PETE STAUBER, MN, Chairman
                      NICK BEGICH, AK, Vice Chair
                  YASSAMIN ANSARI, AZ, Ranking Member

Robert J. Wittman, VA                Seth Magaziner, RI
Paul Gosar, AZ                       Dave Min, CA
Daniel Webster, FL                   Sarah Elfreth, MD
Russ Fulcher, ID                     Luz Rivas, CA
Tom Tiffany, WI                      Debbie Dingell, MI
Jen Kiggans, VA                      Jared Huffman, CA
Wesley P. Hunt, TX                   Jared Golden, ME
Mike Collins, GA                     Nydia M. Velazquez, NY
Harriet M. Hageman, WY               Vacancy
Mike Ezell, MS                       Vacancy
Jeff Crank, CO                       Vacancy
Nick Begich, AK
Jeff Hurd, CO
Bruce Westerman, AR, ex officio

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                                CONTENTS

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Hearing Memo.....................................................     v
Hearing held on Thursday, February 6, 2025.......................     1

Statement of Members:

    Stauber, Hon. Pete, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Minnesota.........................................     1
    Ansari, Hon. Yassamin, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Arizona...........................................     3
    Westerman, Hon. Bruce, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of Arkansas..........................................     5
    Huffman, Hon. Jared, a Representative in Congress from the 
      State of California........................................     6

Statement of Witnesses:

    Bazilian, Morgan, Director, Payne Institute for Public 
      Policy, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, Colorado.........     8
        Prepared statement of....................................    10
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    15

    Harrell, Jeremy, Chief Executive Officer, Clearpath, 
      Washington, D.C............................................    17
        Prepared statement of....................................    19
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    22
    Mulvaney, Dustin, Professor, Environmental Studies 
      Department, San Jose State University, San Jose, California    23
        Prepared statement of....................................    25
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    32
    Lyon, Mckinsey, Vice President, External Affairs, Perpetua 
      Resources, Donnelly, Idaho.................................    32
        Prepared statement of....................................    33
        Questions submitted for the record.......................    36

Additional Materials Submitted for the Record:


    Submissions for the Record by Representative Stauber

        Department of Labor, ``Forced Labor in Cobalt Mining in 
          the Democratic Republic of the Congo''.................    66
        North America's Building Trades Unions, Letter to the 
          Committee..............................................    67
        American Experiment, ``Mission Impossible: Mineral 
          Shortages and the Broken Permitting Process Put Net 
          Zero Goals out of Reach''..............................    68
        Institute for Energy Research, ``The Economic and 
          Strategic Importance of Domestic Mineral Production''..    69
        S&P Global, ``Mine development times: The US in 
          perspective''..........................................    72
        CIA, ``A Survey of the World Antimony Situation''--
          Declassified...........................................    81

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Tiffany

        American Experiment, `` `Net Zero' is a non-starter 
          without more minerals and better permitting,'' by Sarah 
          Montalbano.............................................    57

    Submissions for the Record by Representative Ansari

        FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Further 
          Action to Strengthen and Secure Critical Mineral Supply 
          Chains.................................................    61


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To:        House Committee on Natural Resources Republican Members

From:     Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee Staff, Rob 
        MacGregor: [email protected], x6-2466; Oversight 
        and Investigations Subcommittee Staff, Michelle Lane: 
        [email protected], x6-4137

Date:     February 3, 2025

Subject:   Oversight Hearing titled ``Now Ore Never: The Importance of 
        Domestic Mining for U.S. National Security''
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    The Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources will hold an 
oversight hearing entitled ``Now Ore Never: The Importance of Domestic 
Mining for U.S. National Security'' on Thursday, February 6, 2025, at 
10 a.m. in 1324 Longworth House Office Building.

    Member offices are requested to notify Jacob Greenberg 
(Jacob.Greenberg @mail.house.gov) by 4:30 p.m. on Wednesday, February 
5, 2025, if their Member intends to participate in the hearing.

I. KEY MESSAGES

     To ensure national security, the U.S. must ensure mineral 
            security.

     The United States imports many critical minerals from 
            China and other adversarial nations. This import reliance 
            is a vulnerability that places America's domestic supply 
            chains at risk.

     While the U.S. has many mineral deposits within its 
            borders, long permitting timelines and anti-mining policies 
            advanced by previous administrations have stymied domestic 
            mining activity.

     Encouraging a streamlined mining process from discovery to 
            development for domestic mining projects and decoupling our 
            reliance on foreign adversaries for any segment of the 
            mineral supply chain will create economic certainty and 
            security.

     China recently implemented export bans on critical 
            minerals essential for defense purposes, like gallium, 
            germanium, and antimony. China has also repeatedly used its 
            mineral supply to flood markets and stifle foreign 
            competition strategically, including U.S. attempts to 
            establish secure domestic supply chains.

II. WITNESSES

     Dr. Morgan Bazilian, Director, Payne Institute for Public 
            Policy, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO

     Mr. Jeremey Harrell, CEO, ClearPath, Washington, DC

     Ms. Mckinsey Lyon, Vice President of External Affairs, 
            Perpetua Resources, Donnelly, ID

     Dr. Dustin Mulvaney, Environmental Studies Professor, San 
            Jose State University, San Jose, CA (Minority Witness)

III. BACKGROUND

    Minerals are essential to the U.S. economy, and most are used in 
various civilian and military applications. Mineral materials consumed 
by downstream industries in the U.S. created an estimated value of 
$3.84 trillion in 2023 and a 6 percent increase from 2022 
levels.1 Unfortunately, the U.S. is largely dependent on 
hostile nations for a significant amount of critical minerals, creating 
a significant threat to our national security. On December 20, 2017, 
President Trump issued Executive Order (EO) 13817, entitled ``A Federal 
Strategy to Ensure Secure and Reliable Supplies of Critical Minerals,'' 
which directed the Department of the Interior (DOI), in coordination 
with other agencies, to publish a list of minerals determined to be 
``critical,'' also referred to as the Critical Minerals List 
(CML).2
    The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) publishes and updates the CML 
every three years, with the next iteration expected to be published 
early this year.3 The most recent list was published in 2022 
and consists of 50 hardrock minerals.4 To be classified as 
``critical,'' a mineral commodity must be: (1) a nonfuel mineral or 
mineral material essential to the economic and national security of the 
United States; (2) produced from a supply chain that is vulnerable to 
disruption; and (3) serving an essential function in the manufacturing 
of a product, the absence of which would have substantial consequences 
for the U.S. economy or national security.5 While the listed 
minerals were especially susceptible to supply chain shocks at the time 
of CML publication, policies that favor critical minerals exclusively 
rather than supporting all mineral development could inadvertently 
endanger unlisted mineral markets in the future. Furthermore, different 
federal agencies rely on their own mineral classification methods. For 
example, the Department of Energy's (DOE) Critical Materials List 
focuses on commodities that are essential in energy technologies. In 
contrast, the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) focuses on materials vital 
to defense applications and national security.6,7
    On day one of his second term, President Trump further prioritized 
efforts to secure mineral supply chains by releasing EO 14154, entitled 
``Unleashing American Energy,'' which directs federal agencies to 
revise and rescind agency actions that impose undue burdens on domestic 
mining and processing capacity and instructs the Secretary of the 
Interior to consider updating the CML, including the potential for 
listing uranium.8

IV. U.S. MINERAL PRODUCTION DIFFICULTIES

    Mining is restricted to the location of deposits around the globe, 
the concentration of desired minerals in each deposit, and the economic 
feasibility of extraction. As such, no one country is fully self-
sufficient in terms of the entire critical mineral supply chain. 
However, the U.S. severely lags behind competitors' mineral production 
and processing capabilities.
    Despite the availability of multiple material deposits, the U.S. is 
disadvantaged by permitting delays and legislative restrictions that 
discourage domestic investment and restrict long-term mineral 
supply.9 A 2024 study by S&P Global found that U.S. critical 
mineral projects take an average of 29 years from discovery to 
production--the second-longest in the world.10 U.S.-based 
mining projects also lose over one-third of their value due to delays 
during the permitting process.11 A June 21, 2021, White 
House review of President Biden's E.O. 14017 on America's Supply Chains 
stated of the American critical minerals supply chain, ``[c]urrently, 
the United States has limited raw material production capacity and 
virtually no processing capacity. Without processing capacity, the 
United States exports the limited raw materials produced today to 
foreign markets . . .''12 Without significant adjustments to 
this sector, the U.S. will continue to expose its resource supply 
chains to foreign influence and control.
    During the 118th Congress, House Committee on Natural Resource 
Republicans warned that sustained reliance on adversarial nations, 
especially China, for various minerals rather than domestic sources 
jeopardizes U.S. supply chains and constitutes a pressing national 
security threat. To address these issues, House Republicans included an 
entire title on mining in H.R. 1, the Lower Energy Costs Act, which 
passed in March of 2023 by a vote of 225-204.13

V. FOREIGN IMPORT RELIANCE

    In 2023, the U.S. was over 50 percent import-reliant on apparent 
consumption of 49 nonfuel mineral commodities and 100 percent net 
import-reliant for 15 of those commodities.14

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    Of the 50 minerals on the 2022 CML, the U.S. was over 50 
percent import-reliant on 29 and 100 percent net import-reliant on 
12.16
    China and Canada supplied the most significant percentages of these 
mineral commodities, with China supplying 24 mineral commodities with 
greater than 50 percent net import reliance.17 Overall, 
China controls 60 percent of global production, an estimated 90 percent 
of processing, and over 75 percent of manufacturing of critical 
minerals.18 In terms of individual minerals, China refines 
72 percent of the global refined cobalt, 98 percent of the global 
gallium, and 85 percent of the global refined rare earth elements 
(REEs).19
    While China controls large portions of mid- and downstream 
operations, it lacks upstream reserves of multiple critical minerals. 
For example, 70 percent of global lithium is extracted in Australia and 
Chile, 70 percent of cobalt is extracted in the Democratic Republic of 
the Congo (DRC), 30 percent of nickel is extracted in Indonesia--the 
largest single source--and 40 percent of copper is extracted from Chile 
and Peru.20 China is aggressively investing in global 
suppliers to offset its natural resource deficits. China owns the 
largest foreign stake in Indonesian nickel, and Chinese companies 
finance 15 of 19 cobalt-producing mines in the DRC, giving them 
unprecedented control over the supply of these minerals.21
    Chinese mining and processing operations abroad have consistently 
been linked to labor and human rights abuses, elevating concerns 
regarding the ethics and stability of mineral supply chains. According 
to the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL), there were over 5,000 documented 
cases of child labor in DRC mines between 2018 and 2022.22 
However, the potential for underestimating these figures is high due to 
a lack of reliable monitoring systems.23 Human rights 
organizations have also alleged that between 2018 and 2020, communities 
local to a copper and cobalt mine operated by a subsidiary of the 
Chinese multinational, Jinchuan Group, in the Congo ``were deprived of 
their most basic rights, including the right to property, a decent 
home, food, water, a healthy environment, and even life.''24 
Similarly, in September, DOL added Indonesian nickel produced in 
Chinese-financed industrial parks to its extensive list of foreign 
products made using forced labor.25 DOL reported that 
Indonesian workers face abuses like unsafe conditions, deceptive 
requitement, unpaid wages, restricted movement, and even physical 
violence as a means of punishment.26
    While abusive labor practices abroad are well documented, a 
widespread lack of transparency across various stages of the mineral 
supply chain has obstructed accurate tracking of materials and end 
products made with poor labor standards. In response to these unjust 
practices and insufficient mineral traceability, President Trump's EO 
14154 directs the Secretaries of Commerce and Homeland Security to 
assess the inflow of minerals produced with forced labor into the 
United States and the national and economic security implications of 
relying on such imports.27
VI. EXPORT BANS

    In July 2023, China curbed gallium and germanium exports, followed 
by high-purity and high-quality graphite and REE mining, mineral 
processing, and smelting technology later in the year.28 On 
August 14, 2024, China issued export restrictions on antimony, a 
mineral vital for the defense industry.29 On Tuesday, 
December 3, 2024, China announced export bans on ``dual-use'' 
technologies explicitly targeted at the U.S. after the U.S. took steps 
to limit exports of semiconductor and artificial intelligence (AI) 
technologies to China.30 Chairman Westerman decried China's 
December ban and the lack of the Biden administration's lack of urgency 
predating the announcement, saying, ``[d]espite the concerns of elected 
officials, national security experts, local communities and mineral 
producers, the Biden-Harris administration has made it more difficult 
to access the rich mineral resources here in America and ceded control 
of the global mineral supply chain to our adversaries.''31

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    In addition to the military applications outlined in the graph 
above, the remainder of the minerals on the CML are also integral to 
ensuring our national security. For example, cobalt is used in smart 
bombs, aircraft, and precision-guided missiles,37 nickel is 
used in superalloys for jet engines, and lanthanum is used in night 
vision goggles.38 According to Department of Defense (DOD), 
each Virginia-class submarine requires 9,200 pounds of REEs, and a 
single Aegis destroyer contains 5,200 pounds of REEs.39
    Due to a recognition of the importance of resources for defense 
applications, the DOD's DLA Strategic Materials Office manages the 
National Defense Stockpile, comprised of 50 unique commodities stored 
in nine locations throughout the U.S.40 DOD is so reliant on 
secure mineral sourcing that the Ukraine Supplemental Appropriations 
Act provided $600 million to DOD to secure critical minerals for 
missiles and munitions.41 DOD is using these funds to issue 
grants to companies like Perpetua Resources to permit its Stibnite-Gold 
Project, currently the only domestic site that could produce antimony. 
Reliability in the critical mineral supply chain is imperative to the 
well-being of our national defense network, and without robust support 
for the domestic mining industry, the U.S. will continue to cede 
control of important resources to adversarial nations.
    China has repeatedly used its mineral supply to strategically flood 
markets and stifle foreign competition, including U.S. attempts to 
establish secure domestic supply chains. In 2023, after new Chinese-
backed production in the DRC drove a steep decline in cobalt prices, 
Idaho Cobalt Operations (ICO), America's only cobalt mine, was forced 
to suspend construction mere weeks before it came online.42 
ICO would have supported over 250 good-paying jobs and supplied 1,915 
metric tons of cobalt annually,43 enough to meet about 23% 
of U.S. reported consumption in 2023.44 Instead, the project 
remains idle today, waiting for cobalt prices to rebound from a near 
20-year low.45 Similarly, in 2015, California's Mountain 
Pass mine was driven into bankruptcy as a result of Chinese dumping 
practices, costing the U.S. its only domestic source of rare earth 
minerals.46 Fortunately, the mine resumed operations in 2018 
and has since received federal support under the Defense Production Act 
(DPA) to reshore rare earth processing capacity.47
    Foreign price manipulation has also had a severe impact on mineral 
supplies from allied nations, particularly Australia. Notably, BHP 
warned in July 2024 that ``nearly two-thirds of Australia's nickel 
market is in danger of closing amid low market prices fueled by a 153% 
increase in Indonesia's nickel from 2020 through the end of last 
year,'' much of which was backed by China.48 With mineral 
demand poised to skyrocket in the coming years, the U.S. cannot afford 
to sit idly by and allow national security to be threatened as China 
continues to subsidize its production around the world, dump products 
onto the market, and make U.S. and allied reshoring efforts 
uneconomical. This is especially pressing for commodities such as 
cobalt and copper, where supply is projected to outstrip demand in the 
coming years.49,50 To counter these concerning trends, 
President Trump's recent EO 14154, Unleashing American Energy 
Dominance, directs the United States Trade Representative to assess 
whether exploitative practices and state-assisted mineral projects 
abroad are unlawful or unduly burden or restrict United States commerce 
and suggests comprehensive policy responses.51


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                  OVERSIGHT HEARING ON NOW ORE NEVER:
      THE IMPORTANCE OF DOMESTIC MINING FOR U.S. NATIONAL SECURITY

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                       Thursday, February 6, 2025

                     U.S. House of Representatives

              Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral Resources

                     Committee on Natural Resources

                            Washington, D.C.

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    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:01 a.m. in 
Room 1324, Longworth House Office Building, Hon. Pete Stauber 
[Chairman of the Subcommittee] presiding.
    Present: Representatives Stauber, Wittman, Gosar, Fulcher, 
Tiffany, Hunt, Collins, Hageman, Ezell, Crank, Begich, Hurd, 
Westerman; Ansari, Magaziner, Min, Rivas, and Huffman.
    Also present: Representative Stansbury.

    Mr. Stauber. The Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral 
Resources will come to order.
    Without objection, the Chair is authorized to declare a 
recess of the Subcommittee at any time.
    Under Committee Rule 4(f), any oral opening statements at 
hearings are limited to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority 
Member.
    I ask unanimous consent that the gentleman from Nevada, Mr. 
Amodei; the gentlewoman from Colorado, Ms. Boebert; and the 
gentlewoman from New Mexico, Ms. Stansbury, be allowed to 
participate in today's hearing.
    Without objection, so ordered.
    I now recognize myself for an opening statement.

    STATEMENT OF THE HON. PETE STAUBER, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA

    Mr. Stauber. Today, the Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral 
Resources will host an oversight hearing to examine and 
emphasize the importance of domestic mining for our Nation's 
security.
    I would like to begin by thanking our witnesses for being 
here to discuss this important topic.
    By now, we all understand that hard rock minerals are 
essential not only to our modern life in the United States, but 
also to our future. Demand for these minerals is projected to 
skyrocket in the coming years, even outpacing anticipated 
global supplies in some cases.
    This subject is highly personal to me. I have been fighting 
for years to unleash the economic powerhouse of several 
critical mining projects across northern Minnesota. 
Unfortunately, the Biden administration has spent the last 4 
years unfairly and unilaterally blocking dozens of important 
mining projects, including those in my district. In fact, the 
Biden administration finally acted at the eleventh hour last 
month on Perpetua's Stibnite Gold Project that we will be 
discussing today. Only after China announced a mineral export 
ban, forcing the Pentagon to have to plead with the White House 
to approve the project. This project should have been approved 
years ago, and the Biden administration's failure to do so 
earlier has put our country's national security at risk.
    Given the importance of these minerals and their existence 
throughout the United States, it is astonishing that we rely so 
heavily on imports. The U.S. Geological Survey's own figures 
show that the United States is forced to import more than 50 
percent of the minerals on its critical minerals list. Wildly, 
we import 100 percent of nearly a quarter of minerals that we 
list as critical. Worse yet, our close allies are not the 
nations upon which we rely for these key commodities. Most 
notably, China controls approximately 60 percent of global 
critical minerals production, 90 percent of processing, and 75 
percent of manufacturing.
    According to the International Energy Agency's 2024 Global 
Critical Minerals Outlook, by 2030 Indonesia is also projected 
to control 62 percent of global nickel mining, and the 
Democratic Republic of Congo will account for 66 percent of 
cobalt mining, where they mine cobalt using child slave labor. 
And that is a fact. Many of these mines are directly financed 
by China, which was a point highlighted in a recent report 
compiled by AidData at the College of William and Mary. 
According to the report, between 2000 and 2021 Chinese 
financial institutions provided nearly $57 billion in loans to 
19 low and middle-income countries, including copper and cobalt 
from the Democratic Republic of Congo and Peru, and nickel from 
Indonesia.
    Not only does Chinese mineral dominance enable worldwide 
labor and human rights abuses, including child and forced 
labor, but it also gives the communist country of China a 
stranglehold on America's economic and our national security. 
Two months ago China announced a ban of critical mineral 
exports to the United States to include antimony, gallium, 
germanium, and other dual-use minerals vital for both civilian 
and defense applications.
    China also has a long track record of strategically dumping 
its products onto global markets in order to stifle our 
attempts to build out secure mineral supply chains. And just 
this week the CCP placed new export controls on five additional 
minerals that are key components in a range of industries from 
energy development to cell phones to infrared missiles.
    Our reliance on foreign critical minerals is completely 
unacceptable. Yet, rather than heed the call of House 
Republicans to combat our Nation's failure to secure our 
domestic critical mineral supply chains, former President Biden 
chose to kneecap America by canceling decades-old mineral 
leases and withdrawing hundreds of thousands of mineral-rich 
acres in States like Minnesota, Arizona, and New Mexico, among 
others.
    But our self-inflicted wounds do not end there. A recent 
S&P global study revealed that it takes an average of 29 years 
for a critical mineral project to progress from the discovery 
of the mineral to production in the United States. The only 
country in this world that takes longer to open up a mine is in 
Zambia. This absurd timeline is driven by high cost and 
uncertainty from permitting delays and the risk of litigation 
initiated by radical anti-mining groups.
    Fortunately, on the first day of his second term, President 
Trump signed an Executive Order titled, ``Unleashing American 
Energy,'' which directs Federal agencies to review and revise 
or revoke any agency actions that potentially burden the 
development of domestic energy sources, including critical and 
other hard rock minerals.
    This Committee looks forward to working with the Trump 
administration to realize a golden age of American domestic 
critical mineral dominance, and I hope that my colleagues on 
both sides of the aisle will join me today for a dynamic 
discussion about the importance of critical minerals to our 
economic and our national security, and how we can secure 
domestic critical minerals supply chains to propel us towards a 
brighter future.
    I want to thank the witnesses again for their willingness 
to testify today, and I look forward to hearing about how we 
can assure our national security by ensuring mineral security.
    And now I want to yield to my new ranking colleague, 
Representative Ansari, for her opening statement.
    Representative, it is great to have you on this Committee. 
You are going to do great work, and I look forward to our 
conversations. Welcome.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you. Thank you so much.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. YASSAMIN ANSARI, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
               CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ARIZONA

    Ms. Ansari. Thank you, Chair Stauber. It is great to join 
you. I am thrilled to be here today, and I am honored to serve 
as the Ranking Member of the Subcommittee on Energy and Mineral 
Resources this Congress. I look forward to working 
collaboratively and in a bipartisan way to get things done 
whenever possible.
    I was drawn to the Energy and Mineral Resources 
Subcommittee because we are handling issues that touch the 
daily lives of all of our constituents. When we in Congress 
make decisions about mining and energy development, it impacts 
everything from jobs to the cost of energy to the quality of 
the air that we breathe and the water that we drink and, of 
course, if we are addressing the climate crisis or making it 
worse.
    My constituents sent me to Washington, D.C. to fight for 
them for clean air, clean water, lower prices, and safe places 
to live, work, and play. Arizonans know too well what it is 
like to live with the impacts of climate change. The 
communities I represent are on the front lines, facing 
unprecedented extreme heat and water scarcity. In fact, 
hundreds of Arizonans die every summer as a result of extreme 
heat, and this is driven by our dependence on polluting fossil 
fuels which puts our well-being at the whims of big oil 
companies and their billionaire allies.
    This dependence must end. It won't be easy, but we can and 
we must transition to a clean energy economy. This transition 
relies on materials like copper, lithium, and cobalt to build 
the transmission lines, batteries, solar panels, and wind 
turbines that we need.
    During my time on the Phoenix City Council, I served as a 
councilwoman and vice mayor of the city, fifth-largest city in 
the country. I led the charge to electrify our city fleets, 
invest in renewable energy, and fast-track the transition to 
clean electric vehicles. I did this to improve our air quality 
and public health, while also knowing that it would require 
more mineral resources and advancements in our supply chain.
    Beyond clean energy, everything from the cell phones that 
we use to lifesaving medical technologies rely on critical 
minerals. This is what we are here to talk about today: 
domestic mineral needs for national security. I agree with 
Chair Stauber we should all be concerned that so many of our 
critical mineral supply chains rely on unfriendly or unreliable 
trading partners, and I agree that there is an opportunity to 
grow a modern, responsible, sustainable domestic mining 
industry that creates jobs and supports local economies.
    But mining is only part of the solution, and we need to 
make sure that it is done right. Mining on U.S. public lands is 
still governed by the Mining Law of 1872. It is not a surprise 
that a 150-year-old law that has never been reformed is not fit 
to handle modern challenges. The mining law has no specific 
environmental or public health protections, gives mining 
priority over all other uses of public lands, and doesn't 
require any royalties back to American taxpayers. If we did 
have a royalty, it could fund even more jobs by cleaning up the 
more than 100,000 abandoned hardrock mines across the West, 
including Arizona, and 500 abandoned uranium mines on the 
Navajo Nation.
    The Mining law also contains no specific tribal 
consultation requirement, yet 89 percent of copper, 79 percent 
of lithium, 97 percent of nickel, and 68 percent of cobalt 
resources are within 35 miles of tribal land. And while the 
mining industry has changed a lot since 1872, it is still an 
incredibly resource-intensive process that creates mountains of 
toxic waste and uses trillions of gallons of water, which in 
the West is becoming an increasingly scarce and unreliable 
resource with climate change.
    In Arizona, loopholes in water laws allow mining companies 
to use groundwater without any restrictions, taking essential 
resources away from communities' scarce drinking water. Because 
of these issues, we need to look at national security and 
propose mines holistically, with a broad view of solutions on 
the table that will result in a stronger economy and more 
security for all Americans.
    If we all work together in good faith, we could manage many 
of these problems. Together we could reform the mining law, get 
serious about acknowledging and planning for the environmental 
impacts of mines, and make sure mines pay the full cost of 
doing business while consulting sovereign tribal nations, 
ensuring communities have the water that they need and the 
clean air to breathe.
    And looking beyond mining, the Federal Government should 
work to support a circular economy, recycling the precious 
resources we already have so they don't end up in landfills. I 
look forward to hearing from our witnesses about how we can 
recapture and reuse minerals to fill gaps in our supply chains, 
making them more nimble, resilient, and environmentally 
friendly.
    Thank you again for being here and I look forward to the 
discussion.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you, Representative Ansari. I now will 
recognize the Full Committee Chair, Representative Westerman, 
for his opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF THE HON. BRUCE WESTERMAN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
              CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF ARKANSAS

    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Chairman Stauber and Ranking 
Member Ansari.
    And, you know, this Committee is going to address a lot of 
important issues in this Congress, but I am not sure we will 
address one any more important than making America more 
productive when it comes to minerals and our resources. We 
have, again, a lot of good things that we can do together, and 
I hope that we can work together to address this issue of the 
shortages of these minerals and elements that we have here in 
our country.
    Our reliance on hardrock minerals for everything from 
transportation to communication to national security is no 
secret to any of us here today. These minerals are essential 
for things like cell phones, defense systems, and satellites. 
The fortunate part of it is that we are blessed here in America 
with some of the richest deposits of critical and hardrock 
minerals. A U.S. Geological Survey national map of currently 
identified potential critical mineral resources shows likely 
deposits in every single State. In my home State of Arkansas, 
for example, the brine from the Smackover Formation holds 
millions of tons of lithium reserves that will be vital to meet 
rising demands in the coming years.
    Yet, for decades we have allowed our capabilities to 
discover, extract, and process critical in other hardrock 
minerals to languish. Not only have we allowed refineries and 
processing facilities to shutter, but we have also suffocated 
key prospective mining operations with red tape. Worse yet, we 
have failed to effectively combat the lawfare waged by some 
groups to determine further delay and devastate promising 
mining projects.
    Because of our inability to make efficient use of the 
critical minerals in our own borders, we have become 
increasingly reliant on importing these materials to meet our 
ever-growing needs. And because many of the nations upon which 
we rely, like China, are not allies, our mineral dependency 
presents a serious national security threat.
    I had a meeting just yesterday with an individual with a 
graphite deposit in New York. And if you look at the USGS list 
of how much graphite we use in America, I think it is 52,000 
tons a year, and 100 percent of it is imported. Yet, we have 
one single mine that I know of that could produce 10, 20, or 
1,000 or more tons per year, but we have to be able to get that 
graphite to market.
    It is disheartening to know how much of our economy and our 
security depends on these minerals and elements, and how much 
China and other countries are pulling the strings. And we see 
this happen when a new mine is announced in the U.S. Take the 
lithium, for instance, in my home State. What is China doing 
right now? They are dumping lithium in the world market to 
lower prices. This is not going to be easy. It is going to 
produce financial challenges for people trying to develop 
resources, and we have to unite together as Americans to be 
able to use these things that we are blessed with to make the 
country better.
    So, I am looking forward to the testimony today and to the 
discussions that we have, and I hope we will all take this as a 
serious challenge to the future of our country on how we 
develop new mines, how we do it the most environmentally 
friendly way possible, how we recycle more things, how we use 
innovative technology.
    I had a chance to visit one of our national laboratories 
last summer, and I found that they are looking at ways to take 
aluminum cable and recycle that cable and use different 
technologies and, with the same amount of aluminum, get 20 
percent more conductivity through it. So, when we talk about 
need for more transmission, you know, we keep forgetting that 
we have always been the world leaders on innovation, and we can 
figure out how to use these resources better than anybody else 
in the world.
    We can also learn new ways to get these things out of the 
ground, to do it in a more environmentally friendly manner, and 
to do it in a way that obviously doesn't cause human rights 
violations like we see in some parts of the world.
    So, again, I am looking forward to not only this hearing, 
but the many hearings and markups that we will have along the 
way. And I hope that we can work together to do something good 
for America.
    I yield back.

    Mr. Stauber. Thank you, Chair Westerman. I will now go to 
my colleague, the Tennis co-Caucus chair with me, and the 
Ranking of the Full Committee, Representative Huffman.

   STATEMENT OF THE HON. JARED HUFFMAN, A REPRESENTATIVE IN 
             CONGRESS FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

    Mr. Huffman. I thank you, Mr. Chairman, and good to be back 
with you. I want to congratulate our Ranking Member Ansari for 
her new position, and for the Ranking Member and the Chairman 
for calling us together to discuss a really worthwhile topic.
    We can all agree that critical minerals are important for 
our national security and for the future, certainly, of clean 
energy. The question before us is whether we are going to take 
a smart and strategic approach to address these issues or fall 
for the false promise that we can simply dig our way out of 
this problem.
    And I have been on this Committee now for 12 years. I 
assure you I have seen every possible material, including sand 
and gravel, masquerading as a critical mineral that was 
essential to our national security. I have seen every mine in 
every location, including really special and sacred places, 
represented as critical to our national security. And in the 
last Congress many of my colleagues across the aisle were 
saying, well, we have to do all this new mining to support 
electric vehicles. Well, fast forward to now you are trying to 
get rid of electric vehicles, but you still want to do the 
mining.
    So, look, some of these mines we need and we also need some 
other strategies to address our critical mineral needs. But 
some of these mines are solutions in search of a problem, and 
we have to be thoughtful and careful enough to tell the 
difference. I worry about whether we are heading down that path 
of thoughtfulness and care because President Trump, Elon Musk, 
and their allies here in Congress seem to believe that if we 
just let mining companies do whatever they want wherever they 
want, the problem will fix itself. And that is nonsense.
    Our colleagues across the aisle blame common-sense 
environmental protections and legal challenges for holding up 
mining projects. Well, folks, permitting exists to ensure that 
companies follow basic environmental and safety standards. 
Having access to the courts is essential because sometimes you 
have to protect a community's drinking water supply that is 
going to be unlawfully poisoned. Or sometimes you have to 
protect sacred lands that are going to be desecrated or 
destroyed. The people affected in these situations should have 
a voice. They should have the right to seek justice through 
legal avenues.
    But even if we eliminated every permitting requirement 
tomorrow, we still would not have a secure, totally domestic 
supply of all the materials we need. According to USGS, we 
can't meet our needs with domestic reserves. This is not a 
problem that the United States can solve alone.
    But let's say we had every mineral that we wanted. Mining 
in America doesn't mean that these minerals stay here, and we 
need to talk about that, too, when we consider some of these 
controversial mining proposals. Most mining in the U.S. is done 
by massive, multi-national conglomerates that mine publicly-
owned minerals from our public lands, and then turn around and 
sell them to the highest bidder, often shipping them overseas, 
and they do it without paying a cent back to the American 
taxpayer in royalties. Mining alone gets this special 
exemption. Every other use of public land, including oil and 
gas development, is required to return 16 percent of their 
profits back to the American people.
    So, let's be clear: foreign mining companies are taking 
America's resources for free, selling them to the highest 
bidder, often overseas, sometimes to geopolitical rivals, and 
leaving American communities to deal with the pollution and the 
destruction that they leave behind. And now you want to take 
away those last safeguards to protect our communities.
    Here is an example. Resolution Copper, a proposed mine in 
Arizona, would permanently destroy Oak Flat, a sacred site of 
the San Carlos Apache Tribe. Resolution Copper is owned by two 
multi-national, multi-billion-dollar conglomerates, Rio Tinto 
and BHP. The largest shareholder of Rio Tinto is a Chinese 
state-owned company. Resolution Copper has not committed to 
keeping the copper in the U.S. Most of what BHP and Rio Tinto 
mines ends up in China for processing. So, that proposal would 
bring no money to the U.S. taxpayers and would give away not 
only American public lands but a sacred tribal site to a multi-
national, CCP-owned company to mine copper that is just going 
to be sent abroad. It is a good example of the kind of giveaway 
that we need to scrutinize instead of exalting, which I see all 
too often in some of our deliberations here in this 
Subcommittee.
    So, I hope that we have an opportunity to work together to 
help separate the smart, strategic decisions that can actually 
make us safer, that can give us progress towards a reliable 
source of these materials without compromising other important 
values. And certainly, Democrats are here to work with our 
Republican colleagues toward that end, if we can.
    And with that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.

    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. We will now move to 
introduce our witnesses.
    Let me remind the witnesses that under Committee Rules they 
must limit their oral statements to 5 minutes, but their entire 
statement will appear in the hearing record.
    To begin your testimony, please press the ``talk'' button 
on the microphone.
    We use timing lights. When you begin, the light will turn 
green. When you have 1 minute remaining, the light will turn 
yellow. And at the end of 5 minutes, the light will turn red, 
and we will ask you to please wrap up your statement.
    I will also allow all witnesses to testify before Member 
questioning.
    Our first witness is Dr. Morgan Bazilian, and he is the 
director of the Payne Institute for Public Policy at the 
Colorado School of Mines, and he is stationed in Golden, 
Colorado.
    Doctor, you are now recognized for 5 minutes for your 
opening statement.

  STATEMENT OF MORGAN BAZILIAN, DIRECTOR, PAYNE INSTITUTE FOR 
   PUBLIC POLICY, COLORADO SCHOOL OF MINES, GOLDEN, COLORADO

    Dr. Bazilian. Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and 
members of the Subcommittee, it is an honor to appear before 
you today on this important topic of critical minerals and 
national security. My name is Morgan Bazilian. I am a professor 
and Director of the Payne Institute for Public Policy at the 
Colorado School of Mines. I am one of the world's leading 
scholars on the topics being discussed at today's hearing. The 
Colorado School of Mines has an extraordinary depth of 
knowledge on these topics, and has been pursuing them for over 
150 years.
    This area will benefit from both humility and a truly 
interdisciplinary approach. Making trade-offs explicit and 
acknowledging that they change over time will help you make 
better policy.
    This is not a new topic, especially as it relates to 
security and war-fighting. Historians, geologists, and 
government officials have long acknowledged the nexus between a 
state's mineral resources and its economic and military power. 
In 1902, historian Brooks Adams asserted that all experience 
has demonstrated that the center of mineral production is 
likely also to be the seat of empire.
    I believe strongly that the United States should urgently 
ramp up our domestic mining and refining operations in a manner 
that utilizes best technical and safety practices, has a focus 
on environment and community engagement, seeks transparency, 
and puts our Nation in a strong position on global supply 
chains. This is in the economic and security interests of the 
country and will also support American workers and companies.
    There are positive developments from Arkansas to Arizona, 
from Nebraska to Nevada, from Minnesota to Montana that can 
become world-class mining assets. But many remain stymied. It 
is time to unlock this potential. The United States possesses a 
wealth of these minerals in the Earth's crust, on the ocean 
floor, and at the School of Mines we study it even from the 
perspective of the moon and asteroids. They are also available 
as co-products and through recycling.
    The primary impetus for this hearing and related discussion 
stems from the Chinese dominance of the sector. And I am using 
that term, ``dominance,'' not as rhetorical flourish, but one 
based on empirics. By 2022, China had assumed the top position 
in the production of 30 out of 50 minerals listed as critical 
by the USGS. This reliance exposes the United States to 
disruptions and economic pain such as the recent export bans 
that China imposed on antimony, gallium, and germanium.
    Last year colleagues and I correctly noted that, moving 
forward, China could impose export controls on other minerals 
like bismuth, rubidium, and tantalum. Much of this has now come 
to pass in the unproductive tit for tat between the United 
States and China. We largely ceded our leadership in the sector 
many decades ago to China, and they are not standing still. 
They are, rather, investing tens of billions of dollars all 
over the world today.
    Minerals are necessary for American national defense, 
economic prosperity, and energy security. Rare Earth elements 
are used in Virginia-class attack submarines; copper is used in 
155-millimeter artillery shells; platinum group metals are used 
in catalytic converters; and gallium is used in advanced 
semiconductors; tungsten is used in exploration drill bits; 
copper is used in transmission lines and electric motors. In 
short, minerals are foundational across the modern economy and 
becoming more so.
    Strengthening U.S. mineral supply chains is an important 
area of bipartisan agreement, and this 119th Congress has a 
chance to take action. I give you 10 areas that require 
attention and prioritization.
    First, improve permitting and associated regulations.
    The existing national defense stockpile is insufficient for 
supporting the U.S. military in a major conflict. This needs to 
change, and quickly.
    Third, grow the workforce and support research.
    Fourth, restart the Bureau of Mines. Institutions are 
important to success.
    Fifth, provide well-focused financing not just for supply, 
but also demand.
    Sixth, think in terms of supply chains, not just ore.
    Seventh, increase the viability and functioning of global 
markets. That will help investment decisions.
    Eighth, ensure that cutting-edge mining technologies and 
processes are deployed at scale.
    Ninth, engage meaningfully, early, and with respect for the 
sovereignty of Native American Tribes and people.
    And lastly, work with allies globally.
    It is time for America to become an important mining 
country again.
    Thank you for having me here today.

    [The prepared statement of Dr. Bazilian follows:]
 Prepared Statement of Dr. Morgan D. Bazilian, Professor and Director, 
     Payne Institute for Public Policy at Colorado School of Mines

    Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, it is an honor to appear before you today on the 
important topic of critical minerals and national security.
    My name is Morgan Bazilian, and I am a Professor and Director of 
the Payne Institute for Public Policy at the Colorado School of Mines. 
The Institute distills and translates cutting-edge scientific and 
engineering research into insights for decisionmakers globally. I have 
spent the bulk of my career in public service across three decades and 
several continents--most recently as lead energy specialist at the 
World Bank focused on addressing energy poverty. I am one of the 
world's leading scholars on the topics being discussed at today's 
Hearing.
    The Colorado School of Mines has an extraordinary depth of 
knowledge on these topics, with expertise ranging from mining and 
metallurgy, to economics, policy, anthropology, and chemistry. While I 
cannot adequately reflect the entirety of that portfolio in this 
testimony, I will emphasize that this area, like most, requires both 
humility and a truly interdisciplinary approach--technocratic 
perspectives alone will prove myopic.
IMPETUS
    Let me begin by saying that I believe strongly that the United 
States should urgently and effectively ramp up our domestic mining and 
refining operations in a manner that utilizes best practices for 
environment and community engagement, employs sophisticated financial 
tools, and puts our nation in a strong position on global supply 
chains. This is in the economic and security interests of the country 
and will also support American workers and companies.
    There are positive developments from Arkansas, to Nebraska, to 
Nevada that can become world-class mining assets. However, in designing 
approaches that move us to greater economic and security benefits one 
should be aware that the value add to an economy is much greater 
through the production of advanced technologies than ores. 
Additionally, the various supply chains are complex, dynamic, and 
deeply intertwined with the wider economy.
    The United States possess a wealth of these minerals--in the 
Earth's crust, on the ocean floor, and possibly in space. They are also 
available as co-products and recycling. That said, we largely ceded our 
leadership in this sector many decades ago to China. Catching up is 
unlikely to be a productive policy goal, as China is hardly standing 
still. They are, in fact, investing billions all over the world, and 
are more effective at building large infrastructure than our system 
will (or should) allow. AidData reported last week that between 2000-
2021, Chinese Banks and their partners issued $57 billion in loans to 
low- and middle-income countries for producing and processing several 
critical minerals.
    The primary impetus for this hearing and related discussions stems 
from the Chinese dominance of the sector--and I am using that term not 
as rhetorical flourish, but one based on empirics. In the late 
twentieth century, China emerged as a formidable global power and the 
predominant mineral producer worldwide. According to the US Geological 
Survey, the most noteworthy transformation in global mineral production 
from 1990 to 2018 was the exponential increase in China's mineral 
output. By 2022, China had assumed the top position in the production 
of 30 out of the 50 minerals listed as critical by the US. This 
reliance exposes the United States to supply chain disruptions, such as 
the export ban that China imposed on antimony, gallium, and germanium 
to the United States last year.
    Last year, we correctly noted that ``Moving forward, China could 
impose export controls on other minerals--like bismuth, rubidium, and 
tantalum.'' And further, ``China could expand its export bans to 
include other minerals on its dual-use export control list. These 
minerals include the following: aluminum, beryllium, bismuth, calcium, 
graphite, hafnium, magnesium, nickel (powder), rhenium, titanium, 
tungsten, zinc, and zirconium.'' Much of this has now been signaled by 
China.
    Minerals are necessary for American national defense, economic 
prosperity, and energy security. Rare earth elements are used in 
Virginia-class attack submarines, and copper is used in 155 mm 
artillery shells. Platinum group metals are used in catalytic 
converters, while gallium is used in advanced semiconductors. Tungsten 
is used in exploration drill bits, and copper is used in transmission 
lines. In short, minerals are foundational across the modern economy 
and becoming more so. In a positive development last week, MP Materials 
commenced commercial production of neodymium-praseodymium metal and 
trial production of automotive-grade, sintered neodymium-iron-boron 
magnets in Texas.
    These so-called critical minerals--the once forgotten elements 
crucial to modern day technology--have made it to the top of the 
geopolitical agenda. They have become a common refrain and part of the 
accepted lexicon in government and industry alike. While this attention 
remains, it is worth trying to fundamentally shift the perception of an 
industry that has suffered a poor reputation for millennia. Still, 
these issues largely remain quotidian to much of the population.
    My comments will focus on the national security implications, as 
opposed to the more typically elucidated energy demands for these 
materials. That said, I have written and researched these sometimes 
disparate topics in some depth and have provided links to several of 
these pieces in the References.
HISTORY
    This is not a new topic--especially as it relates to security and 
warfighting.

    Historians, geologists, and government officials have long 
acknowledged the nexus between a state's mineral resources and its 
economic and military power. In 1902, historian Brooks Adams asserted 
that, ``all experience has demonstrated that the centre of mineral 
production is likely, also, to be the seat of empire. In 1916, US 
Secretary of the Interior Franklin K. Lane prioritized minerals as the 
foremost ``foundations of power,'' a sentiment echoed by US Geological 
Survey Director George Otis Smith, who affirmed ``that mineral wealth 
is the foundation of power.'' In 1939, geologist C. K. Leith 
highlighted, ``Military power used to be measured principally by 
manpower, but is coming more and more to be measured in terms of guns, 
ships, automobiles, and airplanes, and the fuel to drive them. These 
mean minerals.''
    The Defense Production Act, which was modeled after the War Powers 
Acts of 1941 and 1942, allows the federal government to begin 
prioritizing national defense over private-sector needs. The current 
version of the law allows the president, through executive order, to 
allocate ``materials, services, and facilities'' for national defense 
purposes and to offer loans or guarantees to private companies. During 
the 1950s, President Truman used the act to regulate the steel and 
mining industries, ensuring the U.S. military could procure adequate 
wartime supplies. As the Cold War escalated, the Truman administration 
employed the DPA to boost the supply of manganese, a mineral critical 
for steel production and one that was put under an embargo by the 
Soviet Union. Truman also invoked the DPA to establish domestic 
aluminum and titanium industries through the provision of capital and 
interest-free loans.
    During the first decade of the Cold War, the US government 
stockpiled enough minerals to cover a five-year conflict with the 
Soviet Union. By 1962 this meant a reserve worth over $77 billion 
adjusted for current prices. This stockpile was housed at over two 
hundred locations, ranging from military depots to commercial 
warehouses, and it contained large-volume minerals like aluminum, 
copper, lead, and acid-grade fluorspar--some of the most commonly used 
minerals by the Department of Defense. Today, the existing National 
Defense Stockpile is insufficient for supporting the US military in a 
major conflict. The stockpile targets enough inventories for just a 
one-year conflict with China, followed by a three-year recovery. Even 
so, the present reserve--which is worth only $912.3 million and stored 
at just six locations--meets less than half of the military's estimated 
demand in this scenario. It also lacks any inventories of critical 
aluminum, copper, lead, and acid-grade fluorspar.
    To reduce the risks of mineral disruptions, the US government--
across multiple administrations--has taken various actions. In his 
first term, President Trump signed Executive Order 13817, which 
directed the Federal Government to publish a list of critical minerals 
and a federal minerals strategy.
    President Biden continued and expanded the efforts of the first 
Trump Administration. Backed by significant appropriations from 
Congress, the Department of Energy committed billions of dollars in 
loans to mineral processing projects, and the Department of Defense 
awarded hundreds of millions of dollars in grants for mineral projects 
in both the United States and Canada. The State Department also 
established the Minerals Security Partnership--following the 
development of a diplomatic effort under the first Trump Administration 
known as the Energy and Resource Governance Initiative.
    It is worth recalling that American jobs--in Pennsylvania, 
Kentucky, West Virginia, Michigan, Indiana and across our industrial 
heartland--depend on Canadian critical minerals. Nickel in particular, 
a critical mineral essential for military and defense applications. 
America has only one nickel mine in the entire country, and it is 
slated to close within the next 10 years. We have no nickel refinery, 
so everything we mine we send to Canada and then buy back. For more 
than 70 years this has been a stable, reliable, affordable relationship 
with our most significant ally and trading partner. Canada supplies 
roughly 50% of the nickel used in our military and more than 80% of the 
nickel used in our aerospace sector. Uranium is another strategic 
mineral consideration for trade with our northern partners--and not an 
insignificant one for either energy or security needs. Likewise, 
Canadian potash is essential for our agricultural sector and food 
security.
    We certainly need to develop our own mines and refineries--but 
working with allies will be indispensable to success in creating 
robust, secure, and resilient supply chains.
    While international financing is important, investing in developing 
and emerging countries carries significant risk. That has been evident 
in the default of US backed loans (from DFC and DOE) for a graphite 
project in Mozambique due to civil unrest in that country. The graphite 
was destined for processing in Louisiana. It remains important to look 
for such opportunities, but the groundwork and diligence required takes 
time and sharp analysis. Related, initiatives like The Copper Mark that 
bring improved transparency to supply chains will expand in relevance--
they also can bring competitive advantage for the United States as we 
produce these materials under strict regulations.
    Finally, as a reminder, this is not an issue only being addressed 
by the United States. Many countries have critical minerals lists--in 
some cases with fundamentally different motivations. Our country has at 
least three such unclassified lists. The DOD's efforts are perhaps the 
most sophisticated, as they consider not just minerals, but processed 
materials--they also consider future demand scenarios and not just a 
snapshot of the present. Improving the sophistication of these 
methodologies, while seemingly prosaic, would help improve decision 
making. To that end, various parts of the intelligence and defense 
community are undertaking regular tabletop exercises looking at 
different vectors of these issues. Those games will help inform how we 
can plan for, and react to, the myriad risks to national security.
ACTION
    Last November, colleagues and I outlined several considerations for 
furthering the vital role of critical minerals and materials in 
supporting US national security.
    President Trump has already issued several Executive Orders that 
involved critical minerals, including the ``Unleashing American 
Energy''. While previous federal actions on minerals largely sought to 
increase financial support for mineral projects, the President's new EO 
directs other actions too, such as tariff investigations and permitting 
actions.
    Most notably, the EO directs the Council on Environmental Quality 
to rescind its implementing regulations for the National Environmental 
Policy Act (NEPA) and instead issue guidance for agencies to implement 
NEPA regulations. This action could represent the most serious change 
to NEPA since its inception depending on what agency-level regulations 
are eventually adopted. Additionally, the next Trump administration 
could permit more mines on federal lands. For example, the Biden 
administration banned mining in Minnesota's Boundary Waters Canoe Area 
Wilderness and surrounding watershed for 20 years--that decision may be 
reversed.
    Another key domestic project is the Resolution Copper project in 
Arizona. I had the opportunity to visit Resolution last year, and 
travel several thousand feet down their mine shaft. It is located in 
the footprint of an existing mine, in an area called the ``Copper 
Triangle'' of Arizona where mining has been a fabric of the rural 
economy for more than 100 years. The deposit is planned be mined using 
underground methods and has the potential to produce up to 25% of US 
demand for copper, as well as a host of critical mineral co-products. 
In addition, the managing company produces final refined copper and 
critical minerals from one of two operating smelters and refineries 
left in the U.S. This is down from about 20 such operations existed a 
few decades ago. For a sense of scale, China operates over 50 copper 
smelters and refineries.
    Adopting demand-side policies that support US mineral projects--
crucial for making financing work is essential for getting to financial 
investment decisions. On the upstream side, rebuilding America into a 
mineral powerhouse faces a financial pitfall on the verge of 
production: mineral projects often struggle to secure funding for 
turning a mineral discovery into an operational mine. The reasons are 
various, including the large upfront capital investment and long 
payback time, as well as permitting risks and price volatility. The 
United States needs a bridge over this somewhat unique ``valley of 
death'' in the mineral project lifecycle.
    Mineral projects have a long phase of development that entails 
rigorous state and federal permitting processes, regular community 
engagement, environmental studies, cultural surveys and consultation 
with tribal sovereign governments. Once a `feasibility study' is 
completed to assess a project's viability, mining companies seek to 
secure permits and financing before they can begin construction.
    This phase takes time and money and has an unpredictable timeline. 
Based on an analysis of 270 active mines, the average duration from a 
completed feasibility study to mine operation is three years, with 10 
percent of projects taking over six years to begin operations. This 
time frame includes permitting, economic assessment, and construction. 
Due to permitting or financing challenges, many mining projects with 
completed feasibility studies do not reach the operational stage. For 
450 non-operational projects, it has been an average of seven years 
since the feasibility study was conducted, with 10 percent of projects 
taking longer than 11 years. This is where our critical minerals 
ambitions get stuck: between exploration and construction, unable to 
secure the financing needed for permitting, engineering, and 
environmental reviews. It is telling that only three mines have come 
online in the US over the last two decades, none of which were on 
federal lands, with roughly 10 projects stuck in development.
    The markets for this diverse set of minerals and chemicals are 
often small, illiquid, have poor transparency and even worse price 
discovery. Lithium carbonate's price (according to the excellent 
Benchmark Minerals Intelligence team) rocketing from $8,500/tonne in 
December 2020 to $81,000/tonne in December 2022 and now back down to 
about $14,500/tonne, underlines the aggressive nature of how these 
inflexible markets can flip. It also makes investment decisions 
exceedingly difficult. The case of Jervois' Idaho cobalt project is 
instructive here. The once only active cobalt mine in the country 
halted construction because of falling cobalt prices.
    Strengthening U.S. mineral supply chains is an important area of 
bipartisan agreement. Thus, this 119th Congress offers a significant 
opportunity for substantive action on critical minerals. Several areas 
stand out.
    Congress could pass legislation increasing funds for mineral 
stockpiling, including for minerals used heavily in conflict but 
presently absent from the U.S. stockpile, such as copper. Mineral 
stockpiling already receives bipartisan support in Congress, as 
evidenced by pending FY 25 legislation to allocate $600 million to the 
National Defense Stockpile Transaction Fund. Congress could also 
explore expanding the purpose of the National Defense Stockpile from 
``national defense only'' to include economic security, such as 
stockpiling minerals from domestic mineral producers at above-market 
prices amid price slumps. China already uses its own stockpiles this 
way, allowing it to exert a powerful influence on market prices. As I 
noted, the frailty of current markets makes it even easier for China to 
exert this control.
    Congress could fund more educational and research programs, too, 
including grants for recruiting and educating mineral-focused 
students--as the bipartisan Mining Schools Act, advanced last Congress 
by this committee, would provide. Mining and geological engineers are 
expected to have modest employment growth of 2 percent from 2023 to 
2033, but more than half of the current U.S. mining workforce is 
expected to retire by 2029, leaving a workforce gap. And the workforce 
pipeline is bottlenecked: The number of mining-related graduates has 
dropped 39 percent since 2016. Today, there are 14 mining engineering 
programs in the U.S.--down from 25 in 1982. Last year, these mining 
schools collectively enrolled 590 undergraduate students, graduating 
just 162 students for an industry demand of 400-600 new mining 
engineers each year. In comparison, China's 45 mining engineering 
programs currently enroll about 12,000 students and graduate 
approximately 3,000 a year--about 18.5 times the number of graduates in 
the United States. Increased R&D investments in next generation mining 
technologies for identifying, mining, recycling, and processing 
minerals and to reclaim, remediate, and reuse existing mines would be 
an important complement to this training.
    Congress could pass legislation seeking to streamline the 
permitting process for mineral projects. Specifically, the legislation 
could modify the litigation process for mineral projects. A team at the 
Institute for Progress recommended establishing a time limit for 
injunctive relief--that is, a court order preventing construction--for 
projects subject to review under the National Environmental Policy Act. 
The time limit would begin with the initiation of the NEPA review and 
end shortly after the conclusion of the NEPA review.
    Another area for improved legislation is enhancing the industry's 
supply chain reporting in government procurement, especially by the 
Defense Department. In previous years, the National Defense 
Authorization Act has included reporting requirements on the provenance 
of minerals in permanent magnets. These reporting requirements could be 
expanded to other defense goods, such as munitions and platforms like 
naval vessels.
    Lastly, institutions are part of the solution set as well. Congress 
could pass legislation reviving the Bureau of Mines or creating a 
similar entity, such as a proposed National Critical Minerals Council. 
Established in 1910, the Bureau of Mines initially worked on addressing 
mine health and safety issues, eventually expanding into information 
gathering on the domestic and global mineral industries as well as 
research on mining and processing technology. As its functions were 
largely absorbed by other federal agencies over time, the bureau was 
dissolved in 1996 amid budgetary battles in Congress.
    All of these actions could be included in the development and 
implementation of a national critical mineral strategy.
LAND
    My final comment is on a topic often overlooked in these 
proceedings. That is: critical minerals security and success in the 
United States is intimately tied to Indian Country.
    Native American Tribes stand to benefit greatly from mining and 
processing the critical minerals needed to drive the energy transition 
in the United States--but only if we acknowledge the sordid history of 
mining on Tribal lands and properly remediate legacy issues while 
forging a new approach that is transparent, fair, and centered on 
Tribal sovereignty and creating vibrant economies.
    Mining offers Tribes a major opportunity. Tribal lands hold roughly 
50% of US uranium reserves. And, approximately 97% of U.S. nickel 
reserves, 89% of its copper reserves and 79% of its lithium reserves 
lie on or within 35 miles of Native American reservations (MSCI). 
Tribes could also benefit from choosing to become better networked and 
integrated into domestic and global supply chains. To wit, a deal was 
inked last week allowing the US company Energy Fuels Ltd. to transit 
uranium across the Navajo Nation, and also engage in the cleanup of 
abandoned mines.
    If the federal government respects Tribal sovereignty, resource 
extraction and related projects such as natural gas development, power 
plants, and data centers on Tribal lands can help create economic 
prosperity.
    Thank you very much for the privilege of speaking in this august 
chamber today.

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    References alluded to in the Testimony:

1. https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/09/16/inflation-reduction-act-
critical-mineral-chains-congress-biden/

2. https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/03/16/us-military-china-minerals-
supply-chain/

3. https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/missing-minerals-clean-
energy-supply-chains

4. https://www.realclearenergy.org/articles/2024/12/19/
leveraging_the_defense_ 
production_act_to_stockpile_minerals_1079522.html

5. https://mwi.westpoint.edu/as-americas-military-rearms-it-needs-
minerals-and-lots-of-them/

6. https://mwi.westpoint.edu/what-if-americas-mineral-intensive-
military-runs-out-of-minerals/

7. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214790X24001539

8. https://www.ciphernews.com/articles/changing-the-relationship-
between-mining-and-native-american-tribes/

9. https://www.csis.org/analysis/pathway-responsible-mining-indian-
country

10. https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/energysource/the-us-
government-should-build-a-resilient-resource-reserve-for-wartime-and-
peacetime/

11. https://www.weforum.org/stories/2023/05/critical-minerals-
technology-geopolitical-greener-future/

12. https://www.cfr.org/podcasts/critical-minerals-and-china-morgan-
bazilian

13. https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/18/united-states-mining-critical-
minerals-congress-supple-chains/

14. https://media.defense.gov/2024/mar/11/2003410998/-1/-1/1/view%20-
%20 wischer%20&%20bazilian.pdf

15. https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/AEtherJournal/Journals/
Volume-3_Number-2/Wischer_et_al.pdf

16. https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-defense-production-act-s-
role-in-the-clean-energy

17. https://www.energy.senate.gov/services/files/57CA4D91-142C-44A7-
9CE4-583456056FDF

18. https://source.benchmarkminerals.com/article/opinion-what-could-
the-trump-administrations-mineral-policy-look-like

19. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/
S2214790X23001909

20. https://www.msci.com/www/blog-posts/mining-energy-transition-
metals/02531033947

                                 ______
                                 

  Questions Submitted for the Record to Morgan D. Bazilian, Director, 
      Payne Institute for Public Policy, Colorado School of Mines

            Questions Submitted by Representative Westerman

    Question 1. During the hearing, you discussed ways to improve 
coordination between federal agencies that maintain separate lists of 
critical minerals and materials.

    1a) Can you elaborate on how Congress can streamline processes 
between agencies like DOD, DOE, and DOI when it comes to determining 
criticality?

    1b) How would H.R. 8446, the Critical Minerals Consistency Act of 
2024, which passed through the House last Congress, contribute to these 
goals? Do you recommend any additional policies to accompany this bill 
specifically in the 119th Congress?

    Answer. Three non-classified lists for critical minerals exist in 
the US. Each list has a different system boundary, a different focus, 
and a different methodology. These differences stem from the missions 
and goals of the various agencies and their stakeholders. The resulting 
lists are thus very different, albeit with some overlap. The DOD list 
is the only one with a forward-looking methodology, and the one with a 
mix of minerals and various materials. Likely the best way to increase 
coordination is through increased transparency of methods and reporting 
timelines.
    This is not an issue only being addressed by the United States. 
Many countries have critical minerals lists--in some cases with 
fundamentally different motivations. Our country has at least three 
such unclassified lists. The DOD's efforts are perhaps the most 
sophisticated, as they consider not just minerals, but processed 
materials--they also consider future demand scenarios and not just a 
snapshot of the present. Improving the sophistication of these 
methodologies, while seemingly prosaic, would help improve decision 
making. To that end, various parts of the intelligence and defense 
community are undertaking regular tabletop exercises looking at 
different vectors of these issues. Those games will help inform how we 
can plan for, and react to, the myriad risks to national security.
    I am not familiar with the HR 8446 legislation in detail, but it 
seems to suggest including the materials designated in the DOE list to 
be included in the USGS list. That may bring some clarity to the 
confusion created by having multiple lists, but the methodologies will 
likewise have to be aligned in some manner.

    *Our recent paper on the topic is here: https://
www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214790X23001909

             Questions Submitted by Representative Fulcher

    Question 1. How critical is it that land management agencies, the 
Department of Defense, and other key departments work together to 
streamline timelines and cut through bureaucratic delays? When it comes 
to permitting, how can these agencies better engage with industry-both 
to understand their challenges and to collaborate on solutions that 
ensure we meet permitting milestones efficiently, from exploration to 
full-scale development?
    Answer. With domestic mineral demand forecasted to soar due to 
America's burgeoning reindustrialization and overseas mineral supplies 
imperiled by jurisdictional and shipping risks, members of the U.S. 
executive branch and Congress increasingly support a modernized 
permitting system that facilitates the development of domestic mining 
projects. They also generally back high permitting standards for 
safety, health, labor, emissions, and the environment, as well as 
Tribal consultation and community engagement. This emerging bipartisan 
consensus presents an opportunity for federal agencies to update rules 
and for Congress to pass laws streamlining permitting for new mines 
that are environmentally and socially responsible. Better coordination 
between the many departments, regulatory bodies, and agencies would 
certainly improve permitting efficiency.
    Mineral projects have a long phase of development that entails 
rigorous state and federal permitting processes, regular community 
engagement, environmental studies, cultural surveys and consultation 
with tribal sovereign governments. Once a `feasibility study' is 
completed to assess a project's viability, mining companies seek to 
secure permits and financing before they can begin construction.
    This phase takes time and money and has an unpredictable timeline. 
Based on an analysis of 270 active mines, the average duration from a 
completed feasibility study to mine operation is three years, with 10 
percent of projects taking over six years to begin operations. This 
time frame includes permitting, economic assessment, and construction. 
Due to permitting or financing challenges, many mining projects with 
completed feasibility studies do not reach the operational stage. This 
is where our critical minerals ambitions get stuck: between exploration 
and construction, unable to secure the financing needed for permitting, 
engineering, and environmental reviews. It is telling that only three 
mines have come online in the US over the last two decades, none of 
which were on federal lands, with roughly 10 projects stuck in 
development.

    *Our recent paper on the topic is in this book on page 78: https://
csis-website-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/s3fs-public/2025-02/
250210_Baskaran_Critical_Minerals.pdf 
?VersionId=Tfu2TnNrQGlN7ol8HSCakMUT8HTwYukd

              Questions Submitted by Representative Ezell

    Question 1. Semiconductors, critical to autos, military, and other 
key national security applications rely on palladium supply for their 
fabrication. We saw the disruption to many of our key national 
industries due to the semiconductor supply chain disruption during the 
early onset of the pandemic. Will we see this again if palladium 
supplies are withheld from the U.S.?

    Answer. Palladium, like gallium and germanium, are essential for 
semiconductors. They all face supply chain risks, but palladium risk is 
more from Russia and possibly South Africa--whereas the others have 
risks largely from China. The US produces a small amount of global 
demand from mines in Montana.
    On December 3, 2024, China's Ministry of Commerce announced that 
``the export of dual-use items such as gallium, germanium, antimony, 
and superhard materials to the United States will not be permitted.'' 
This announcement likely means that over 20 mineral items--encompassing 
both metals and chemicals--are banned from being exported from China to 
the United States.
    Critically, China--the United States' ``most consequential 
strategic competitor'' according to the 2022 National Defense 
Strategy--is the largest source of U.S. imports for antimony metal and 
oxide, as well as germanium metal. China is also the second largest 
source of U.S. imports for gallium. Since China's export ban takes 
immediate effect, the U.S. defense industrial base could experience 
short-term mineral shortages and higher prices. This should not be 
taken lightly: mineral shortages can impede defense manufacturing and 
undermine the strength of the military, just as the United States 
experienced during World War II.
    The resulting supply disruptions from China's new export ban could 
also have a multi-billion-dollar impact on the U.S. economy. For 
example, the U.S. Geological Survey recently calculated that if China 
blocked all exports of gallium alone, U.S. gross domestic product could 
decline by up to $8.2 billion.

    *One of our papers on gallium and germanium is here: https://
thediplomat.com/2024/12/chinas-mineral-export-ban-strikes-at-the-us-
defense-industrial-base/

                                 ______
                                 
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you, Dr. Bazilian. I will now recognize 
my colleague, the gentleman from Arizona, Dr. Gosar, for 30 
seconds to introduce our next witness.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
introduce Jeremy Harrell, the Chief Executive Officer of 
ClearPath. I am excited to introduce Jeremy today, as he is a 
proud alumni of my staff. From 2011 to 2013, Jeremy served as 
my Legislative Director before moving over to the U.S. Senate 
and then onto ClearPath, first as their policy director and 
then eventually moving up to the ranks of CEO. I am proud to 
see a great Capitol Hill staffer succeed and join us here today 
on the other side of the dais.
    Welcome, Jeremy.
    I yield.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you.
    Mr. Harrell, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

     STATEMENT OF JEREMY HARRELL, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER, 
                  CLEARPATH, WASHINGTON, D.C.

    Mr. Harrell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you, Dr. Gosar, for the very kind introduction. It is 
great to be back here at the Committee.
    Thank you, Ranking Member. I am excited to discuss this 
important topic today. My name is Jeremy Harrell, and I am the 
Chief Executive Officer of ClearPath.
    Securing mineral supply chains is paramount to our Nation's 
economic competitiveness. Global demand is rapidly increasing, 
and our Nation's dependence on foreign supply chains is a 
significant risk to our national security. We often take for 
granted the materials in everyday consumer products and the 
clean energy that powers our Nation. Estimates show the U.S. 
may need to double grid capacity over the coming decades to 
meet rising demand. Expanding this capacity requires 
substantial infrastructure that relies on various materials.
    The International Energy Agency predicts that by 2040, 
global demand for minerals like lithium, cobalt, graphite, and 
nickel could grow 20 to 40 times. Our Nation needs a strategy 
that synchronizes U.S. R&D capabilities with targeted free-
market incentives, regulatory modernization, and proactive 
trade policies. That strategy should start with three key 
objectives: one, restore predictability to the permitting 
process; two, streamline judicial review of administrative 
actions; and three, de-risk private investment in domestic 
mining and processing.
    First, predictability is essential. Never has the phrase 
``time is money'' been more appropriate. A typical mining 
project loses more than one-third of its value because of 
permitting delays. Far too often these delays make a project 
financially unviable. The energy and infrastructure projects 
most often impacted by this permitting purgatory offer the 
greatest benefits to our Nation. Take the largest proven 
lithium reserve in the U.S., Nevada's Thacker Pass mine. 
Initial exploration began in 2007, but it didn't receive 
approval until 2021. Several permitting issues delayed the 
project, and it is now slated to begin production in 2028. 
Twenty-one years later is simply unacceptable.
    The U.S. must eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy where the 
economic and environmental benefits outweigh the opportunity 
cost. The National Environmental Policy Act, or NEPA, has been 
contorted far beyond Congress' initial intent. NEPA is intended 
to be a procedural law that requires Federal agencies to assess 
the environmental impact of their actions, not one that imposes 
new, substantial requirements. The NEPA process is just the 
start to letting America build. Agencies ranging from the EPA 
to Interior need to also issue relevant permits such as 
Endangered Species Act permits, Clean Water Act permits, and 
others before construction.
    New reforms should expedite the approval process for 
projects that bring net benefits and comply with laws to ensure 
clean water and clean air. This can be done faster without 
sacrificing environmental outcomes.
    Second, the judicial review of agency actions must be 
reformed. The current system is tilted towards those who seek 
to delay or block projects. It is simple. Once approved, legal 
challenges should be addressed, yet nearly every major mining 
project faces litigation that drags on for years. This results 
in years of delays that change little to nothing about the 
project. Litigants exploit these delays, aiming to stretch the 
process until developers run out of funding and ultimately 
abandon projects.
    Congress could consider limiting legal challenges to plain 
errors related to the natural resources laws, narrowing the 
scope, and setting strict review timelines. Without changes, 
our Nation is needlessly undermining our own mineral supply 
chain goals.
    And third, the Federal Government could leverage its 
financial tools to de-risk private-sector investment. Chinese 
state-owned enterprises use heavy subsidies to undercut 
American companies, distort prices, and dominate markets, 
leading to shortages of critical minerals and increased prices.
    Out-subsidizing China is not an effective strategy, but 
targeted incentives like the 45X tax credit, public-private 
partnerships, and low-cost debt financing can foster investment 
and protect American industries from unfair competition. The 
45X tax credit could be strengthened to support U.S. production 
goals. The credit should provide meaningful incentives for 
domestic mines that send mineral concentrates to the U.S. or 
allied refineries, and it should allow domestic refiners to 
claim the credit. Leveraging these types of tools can 
accelerate new mines and processing facilities.
    These are just a few common-sense reforms that Congress 
could consider to further American mineral security and 
manufacturing competitiveness. As global demand for minerals 
increases, the U.S. will either responsibly develop resources 
at home and alongside of our allies, or continue to rely on 
foreign sources, many of which pose human rights concerns, 
national security risks, and significant environmental 
consequences. ClearPath believes the U.S. should lead from the 
front.
    I look forward to working with this Committee to push 
common-sense reforms across the finish line. Thank you for the 
opportunity.

    [The prepared statement of Mr. Harrell follows:]
    Prepared Statement of Jeremy Harrell, Chief Executive Officer, 
                            ClearPath, Inc.

    Good Morning, Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari and members 
of the Subcommittee. My name is Jeremy Harrell, and I am the Chief 
Executive Officer of ClearPath, a 501(c)(3) organization that works to 
accelerate American innovation to reduce global energy emissions.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify today and for holding this 
important hearing. It is exciting to see that the Committee 
prioritizing, in one of its first hearings of the 119th Congress, the 
urgent need to secure the mineral supply chains for our nation's energy 
and manufacturing future . Reducing our vulnerabilities are paramount 
to U.S. competitiveness, and it is essential that our nation makes 
progress over the next two years.
    U.S. energy demand is rapidly increasing, and our nation's current 
dependence on foreign adversaries to supply these critical materials 
poses a significant risk to national security and economic growth. 
Critical materials are used in products like cell phones, computers, 
appliances, vehicles, and batteries that American families rely on. 
Strengthening the U.S. domestic supply chain will ensure that the 
American people have secure access to these essential technologies.
    Some estimates show the U.S. will need to double the capacity \1\ 
of its bulk power system over the coming decades to meet expected 
energy demand. Expanding this capacity requires substantial 
infrastructure--batteries, transmission systems and more--all of which 
rely on various materials. Consequently, the International Energy 
Agency (IEA) predicts that demand for energy-related minerals like 
lithium, cobalt, graphite and nickel could grow 20 to 40 times by 
2040.\2\
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    \2\ https://www.iea.org/reports/the-role-of-critical-minerals-in-
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    As demand for energy and materials increases, the choice for 
American policymakers is clear: the U.S. will either responsibly 
develop these resources here at home, or continue to rely on foreign 
adversaries like China, which pose national security, human rights, and 
environmental concerns. Our nation needs a comprehensive strategy that 
synchronizes U.S. R&D capabilities with targeted free market 
incentives, regulatory modernization, and proactive trade policies to 
put the U.S. back in a leadership role. In my testimony, I will outline 
a strategy that expedites American production.

    But first, we need to be clear eyed about U.S. dependence on 
foreign supply chains.

     In the just released USGS Mineral Commodity Summaries 
            2025, the U.S. remains 100 percent reliant on imports for 
            12 of the 50 minerals deemed ``critical'' by USGS.\3\
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    \3\ https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2025/mcs2025.pdf

     In 2024, the United States was 100 percent net import 
            reliant for 15 minerals, unchanged from 2023, and imports 
            made up more than one-half of the U.S. apparent consumption 
            for 46 nonfuel mineral commodities, down slightly from 49 
            in 2023.\4\
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    \4\ Ibid.

     Meanwhile, China was the leading country producing 30 of 
            44 critical minerals.\5\
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    \5\ Ibid.

     Of the 50 mineral commodities identified in the ``2022 
            Final List of Critical Minerals,'' the United States was 
            100% net import reliant for 12, unchanged from 2023, and an 
            additional 28 (down from 29 in 2023) had a net import 
            reliance of greater than 50 percent.\6\
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    \6\ Ibid.

     Breaking down the processing even more, China processes 
            90% of global rare earth element supply and 60-70% of 
            global lithium and cobalt supply.\7\
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    \7\ https://www.iea.org/reports/energy-technology-perspectives-
2023/clean-energy-supply-chains-vulnerabilities

     In 2023, the United States was ranked 78th among 87 
            countries in manufacturing cost competitiveness by US News 
            & World Report.\8\
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    \8\ U.S. News & World Report. 2023. ``These Countries Have the 
Cheapest Manufacturing Costs.''

A bold three-step American strategy
    Exploration of materials within U.S. borders will form the basis of 
a secure supply chain. Investment in modern exploration techniques and 
streamlining accreditation processes can identify viable deposits more 
quickly and efficiently. However, the U.S. must also prioritize 
extraction capabilities to convert these identified resources into 
viable supplies.
    Regulatory approvals for mines at home have fallen to the lowest 
level in decades, coinciding with substantial demand growth for 
essential raw materials for key grid and transportation infrastructure. 
Increasing domestic mining and materials capacity is crucial to meeting 
demand and reducing foreign control over the critical materials supply 
chain.
    Even when the United States makes headway on mining for more 
domestic materials and minerals, processing remains a major bottleneck 
because China controls global refining. Establishing U.S.-based 
processing facilities will reduce raw materials sent abroad, allowing 
the U.S. to add value domestically and create a resilient supply chain. 
For example, copper and zinc, essential electric grid components, and 
nickel and lithium, critical for battery storage technologies, are 
foundational to energy infrastructure. Dependence on China will become 
a critical vulnerability when the United States needs to build 
essential infrastructure and cannot proceed because China refuses to 
sell us the materials the American people rely on.
    President Trump's Executive Order ``Unleashing American Energy'' 
\9\ takes initial steps to address this issue by revising or rescinding 
regulatory barriers that hinder domestic mining and production. Failure 
to scale up domestic production of minerals and materials undercuts our 
nation's ability to compete globally. While recycling plays a role in 
supplementing raw material supply, it cannot meet the scale of surging 
demand caused by manufacturing, data centers, and artificial 
intelligence (AI) infrastructure growth.
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    \9\ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/
unleashing-american-energy/
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    Without robust domestic production and processing capabilities, the 
U.S. remains exposed to potential export restrictions or geopolitical 
leverage. Investing in the domestic critical materials supply chain--
exploration, extraction, and refining--will ensure that the United 
States can meet future infrastructure demands without being at the 
mercy of foreign adversaries. Building this capacity now is essential 
to safeguarding America's energy independence.

    To fix this urgent problem, policymakers could focus on three key 
objectives:

     One, restore predictability to the permitting process;

     Two, streamline judicial review; and

     Three, derisk private investment in domestic mining and 
            processing with targeted incentives and public-private 
            partnerships.

    First, restoring regulatory predictability is essential. Never has 
the phrase ``time is money'' been more appropriate. Regulatory delays 
greatly increase project costs. For example, Nevada contains the 
largest proven lithium reserve in the United States. The Thacker Pass 
lithium mine in Humboldt County will produce an initial 40,000 metric 
tons of battery-grade lithium carbonate per year for use in lithium-ion 
batteries for vehicle, electronics and energy storage. However, 
lawsuits and delays have plagued the construction for years. Initial 
exploration of the mine began in 2007, and the Bureau of Land 
Management issued a Record of Decision approving the project in 2021. 
The mine was initially planned for production by 2026, but several 
permitting issues and litigation delayed the project. The mine is now 
expected to be at full capacity by 2028. The projects most likely to be 
held up in the permitting purgatory are those that offer the greatest 
benefits to our nation.
    Overall, a typical mining project loses more than one-third of its 
value, as a result of bureaucratic delays in receiving the numerous 
permits needed to begin production.\10\ The higher costs and increased 
risk that often arise from a prolonged permitting process can cut the 
expected value of a mine in half before production even begins. The 
combined impact of open-ended delays can lead to mining projects 
becoming altogether financially unviable.
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    The United States must eliminate unnecessary bureaucracy in areas 
where the economic and environmental benefits outweigh opportunity 
costs. The National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) is a procedural law 
that requires federal agencies to assess the environmental impact of 
their actions.
    Furthermore, NEPA is just the start of the process of building 
major infrastructure projects, including mines. Federal agencies will 
also most likely need to issue permits under several other relevant 
statutes, including, among many others, the Endangered Species Act, the 
Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Migratory Bird Treaty Act, the 
Resource Conservation and Recovery Act, the National Forest Management 
Act, the Solid Waste Disposal Act, and the National Historic 
Preservation Act.
    It is essential to understand what NEPA really is. NEPA imposes no 
substantive requirements to help protect the environment, such as 
emissions standards or new technology requirements. NEPA requires that 
federal agencies provide the public with what the law describes as a 
``detailed statement'' on the potential environmental impacts of 
actions such as distributing grants and issuing permits.
    Reforms should change the paradigm to expedite the approval process 
for projects that bring net benefits and comply with laws meant to 
ensure clean water and clean air.
    Federal action can also no longer vacillate according to political 
whims. Developers must be able to rely on decisions from one 
Administration to the next. The last time I testified before you at a 
field hearing in July 2023 I talked about two critical mines in Arizona 
and Minnesota, and both are still stuck in the wheel of litigation and 
administrative actions, despite Congress taking specific legislative 
action to drive them forward. U.S. policy must provide certainty for 
projects such as these with Congressional action to stop reliance on 
materials sourced from overseas.
    Instead, the system should create jobs here, promote American 
innovation, and foster better global environmental outcomes.
    Second, the judicial review of agency actions must be reformed. The 
current system is overwhelmingly tilted toward those who seek to delay 
or block projects. Once a project is approved, further legal challenges 
should be addressed expeditiously, yet nearly every major mining 
project faces litigation that often drags on for years.
    These legal challenges rarely contest the decision to allow a 
project to proceed but instead target the tens of thousands of pages of 
analysis that accompany the approval. Judges, often without subject 
matter expertise, focus on minor details, suggesting that if only the 
agency had done slightly more--maybe 11,000 pages of review instead of 
10,000--the project might proceed. This results in years of additional 
analysis that often changes little to nothing about the project. 
Meanwhile, injunctions halt progress, paralyzing the project and 
jeopardizing investments.
    Litigants exploit these delays, knowing that time is money. By 
repeatedly filing lawsuits, they aim to stretch the process until 
developers run out of funding and abandon their projects. These issues 
affect all energy projects but are especially troubling for mining 
projects, where development costs often reach billions, and the design 
and construction process takes years, even under ideal circumstances.
    Last Congress, this body passed H.R. 1, the Lower Energy Costs 
Act--important legislation with a number of key provisions, including 
one to require legal disputes be resolved in less than one year. Other 
major House and Senate permitting proposals include injunctive relief, 
standing clarifications, and deadlines on the statute of limitations. 
These reforms represent progress, but judicial unpredictability is 
among the biggest wildcards in the current permitting system.
    Congress should limit legal challenges to plain and obvious errors 
related to the natural resources laws, narrow the scope, and adhere to 
a strict review timeline. Without these changes, billions in investment 
and years of progress will continue to be wasted, undermining the 
nation's ability to build critical infrastructure and secure a reliable 
supply chain for essential minerals.
    Lastly, the U.S. must allow mining and refining entities equal 
access to certain financial incentives to compete globally. Chinese 
state-owned enterprises use heavy subsidies to undercut American 
companies,\11\ distort prices, and dominate markets. These actions have 
led to shortages of critical minerals and increased prices, disrupting 
supply chains and exposing the U.S. economy to risk. The U.S. defense 
industrial base,\12\ for example, faces potential delays in 
manufacturing munitions and weapons systems due to Chinese export bans 
on gallium, germanium, antimony, and superhard materials.
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    ``Out subsidizing'' foreign state-owned enterprises is not an 
effective strategy, but tax incentives, like the 45X advancing 
manufacturing production tax credit, can help foster additional private 
sector investment in responsible U.S. mining and refining while 
protecting our nation's industries from unfair competition. However, 
45X, as interpreted by the Biden Administration, fell short in two key 
areas. First, it fails to provide meaningful incentives for domestic 
mines that send mineral concentrates to U.S. or allied refineries, a 
step necessary to achieve economies of scale and competitive costs. 
Second, it allows domestic refiners to claim the credit even when 
sourcing feedstock from foreign entities of concern, effectively 
feeding our nation's vulnerability.
    These adjustments to 45X could strengthen its impact to better 
support domestic production. This tool, if updated, can help America 
build the mines and processing facilities needed to compete with China 
and Russia and reclaim control of U.S. resources. Other targeted 
public-private partnerships, for example at the Department of Energy, 
can also help derisk private investment in nationally significant 
projects. New mines and facilities succeed by embedding their supply 
chains, ensuring buyers are in place before production begins.
    As global demand for critical minerals and materials increases, the 
U.S. will either responsibly develop these resources here at home or 
continue to rely on foreign sources that, in many cases, pose human 
rights challenges, present national security risks, and result in 
increased environmental impacts.
    In conclusion, reliance on foreign minerals supply chains threatens 
U.S. national security, the American people, and their economic future. 
Congress can implement a national strategy to maximize public and 
private sector investments in critical minerals supply chains.
    ClearPath looks forward to working with this Subcommittee to 
further American minerals independence, and I look forward to today's 
discussion.

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         Questions Submitted for the Record to Jeremy Harrell,
                         CEO of ClearPath, Inc.

              Questions Submitted by Representative Ezell

    Question 1. Key lifesaving industries like pharmaceuticals, drug 
formation, and farming would be impacted by such disruptions in supply 
of palladium. Have any of you looked at these industries to evaluate 
the nation's security threat to our health and basic nutritional needs 
if the flow of these critical minerals was disrupted?

    Answer. While palladium has not been a primary focus of study for 
ClearPath, disruptions in the critical minerals supply chain present a 
significant risk to national security, including essential industries 
such as pharmaceuticals, drug formulation, and agriculture. Critical 
minerals serve as the foundation for modern manufacturing, and any 
supply chain instability could lead to shortages in life-saving 
medications, disrupt food production, and hinder medical and 
technological advancements.
    Palladium, a platinum-group metal, is classified as a critical raw 
material and plays an essential role in catalytic converters for 
reducing emissions, as well as in the chemical and electronics 
industries. Additionally, its properties are crucial in pharmaceutical 
drug formation and agricultural processes. The global palladium supply 
is highly concentrated, with Russia historically controlling 
approximately 40% of global mine production and 30% of total exports by 
value. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, concerns over supply 
disruptions have intensified, as Western markets remain heavily 
dependent on Russian palladium. While some alternative sources exist in 
South Africa, Zimbabwe, Canada, and the United States, the flexibility 
to accommodate shortages remains limited.
    China, while not a dominant producer of palladium, remains a major 
refiner and importer, exerting significant influence over supply 
chains. China's strategic use of state-owned enterprises to manipulate 
global markets has been demonstrated in other critical minerals, such 
as rare earth elements, lithium, and cobalt. The risk of geopolitical 
leverage remains a pressing concern. Similar disruptions have already 
affected semiconductor production, defense supply chains, and advanced 
energy technologies. If applied to palladium, such actions could result 
in substantial shortages in the automotive industry, pharmaceutical 
manufacturing, and key agricultural applications, ultimately impacting 
public health and food security.
    Given these risks, strengthening domestic mining, refining, and 
supply chain resilience is a necessary priority. Without proactive 
measures to secure critical materials, the United States and its allies 
will remain vulnerable to external supply shocks that threaten economic 
stability, technological leadership, and essential public services. 
Addressing these challenges requires a focus on three key areas: 
restoring predictability to the permitting process, streamlining 
judicial review, and de-risking private investment. Without these 
reforms, domestic projects will struggle to compete, and the U.S. will 
remain dependent on foreign-controlled supply chains, undermining 
national security and long-term economic resilience.

             Questions Submitted by Representative Dingell

    Question 1. Mr. Harrell, do you agree that the direct loans from 
the Biden Administration for domestic critical mineral processing 
projects are a benefit to our domestic supply chains?

    Answer. Debt-financing for large-scale domestic critical mineral 
processing projects can help de-risk private investment and expand U.S. 
refining capacity. However, the U.S. remains heavily reliant on foreign 
processing, with China controlling over 60% of global refining. To 
compete globally, mining and refining entities must have equal access 
to certain financial incentives that support domestic production.
    The 45X advanced manufacturing tax credit has the potential to 
strengthen domestic mining and refining, fostering private sector 
investment while reducing reliance on foreign-controlled supply chains. 
Targeted improvements--such as stronger incentives for domestic mines 
supplying U.S.-sourced materials--would enhance its impact. Expanding 
public-private partnerships, like those at the Department of Energy, 
alongside a strengthened 45X credit can help de-risk investment in 
nationally significant projects, ensuring new mines and refineries 
integrate into resilient domestic supply chains and support long-term 
economic growth.
    Beyond financial incentives, permitting delays remain one of the 
biggest barriers to domestic production. Mining projects face an 
average 7-10 year permitting timeline, with approvals often stalled by 
duplicative reviews and lengthy litigation. Even after permits are 
issued, legal challenges can drag projects into years of uncertainty, 
deterring private capital investment.
    Without permitting reform, domestic projects will struggle to 
compete, leaving the U.S. vulnerable to supply chain disruptions and 
geopolitical leverage.
    To build a resilient supply chain, the U.S. must align financing 
tools with comprehensive permitting reform, including clear review 
timelines, streamlined judicial processes, and coordinated federal-
state approval processes to provide certainty needed for domestic 
projects to move forward.

    Question 2. Mr. Harrell, similarly, do you agree that federal 
support for battery recycling is vital for U.S. manufacturing and the 
jobs that will come with it?

    Answer. Battery recycling plays an important role in supplementing 
domestic critical mineral supply and reducing reliance on foreign 
sources. However, while recycling can help alleviate supply chain 
vulnerabilities, it cannot meet the scale of surging demand driven by 
manufacturing, data centers, and AI infrastructure. Federal support for 
battery recycling can contribute to U.S. manufacturing and job 
creation, but it must be complemented by expanded domestic mining and 
processing to ensure a secure and resilient supply chain for critical 
materials.

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    Mr. Stauber. Thank you, Mr. Harrell. Our next witness is 
Dr. Dustin Mulvaney, and he is a Professor of Environmental 
Studies at San Jose State University, and he is stationed in 
San Jose, California.
    Dr. Mulvaney, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

STATEMENT OF DUSTIN MULVANEY, PROFESSOR, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES 
  DEPARTMENT, SAN JOSE STATE UNIVERSITY, SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA

    Dr. Mulvaney. Thank you to the esteemed members of this 
Committee. It is a great privilege to be here to speak before 
you today. I am a professor of environmental studies, as was 
said, at San Jose State University, where I study supply 
chains, life cycle assessment, land use change, and recycling 
and waste impacts of energy technologies and infrastructures.
    Supply chain disruptions from bottlenecks, geographic 
concentration, and trade restrictions have shown 
vulnerabilities to the domestic economy and energy systems, and 
why securing adequate supplies are crucial to national 
security, economic prosperity, and safeguarding the planet we 
share. But there are a few important considerations I would 
like to raise in these opening remarks.
    One, mining's legacy of water contamination and waste 
warrants a more sustainable approach to mining and mineral 
extraction. New sites of mineral extraction cannot come at the 
expense of our wildlife, water-dependent ecosystems, and 
riparian habitats. Half of known critical mineral deposits in 
the U.S. are within trout and salmon habitat, and 1 in 10 
deposits are in protected public land areas like wildernesses. 
Many critical minerals overlap with sage grouse habitat and big 
game wildlife corridors across the West. One lithium mine being 
proposed by an Australian mining company has potential impacts 
to an entire population of an endangered buckwheat plant that 
only exists in that particular spot. Most land-based critical 
minerals are located in areas already facing high or extreme 
high levels of water stress.
    Two, domestic critical minerals development should protect 
Native American sovereignty, self-determination, and provide 
meaningful consultation on cultural resources. It is not 
uncommon to hear that the Federal consultation process for the 
National Historic Preservation Act, for example, is failing 
Tribes on adequate and meaningful consultation. The United 
States should strengthen tribal consultation around ideas of 
self-determination and free, prior, and informed consent as 
described by the International Labor Organization's Convention 
169. The Department of the Interior's new pre-plan coordination 
is a step in the right direction, bringing stakeholders 
together to understand others' priorities and concerns.
    Public policy should also encourage the United States to 
move away from the take, make, waste economy towards a circular 
economy. More progress is needed to move towards a circular 
economy. The U.S. lacks a comprehensive Federal policy to 
encourage electronics and electrical equipment recovery and 
recycling. These are critical mineral resources in our hands 
that we let slip through our fingers. Analysts emphasize the 
need to develop new copper mines, for example, yet less than 40 
percent of copper is currently recycled, and the rest is 
landfilled. A circular economy approach means extracting more 
critical minerals from mine waste streams, end-of-life 
products, and reducing demand through resource efficiency and 
material substitution.
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act directs the 
Secretary of Energy, in coordination with the Director of the 
National Science Foundation, to issue grants to support 
research on critical minerals, mining, recycling, reclamation 
strategies, and technologies.
    Four, undermining environmental laws will increase the time 
to build mines by making it harder for mine developers to 
obtain social license to operate. A social license to operate 
in trust is something gained through notification, 
consultation, listening, providing community benefits, and 
offering ownership stake, et cetera. This becomes extremely 
difficult to do under circumstances such as fast-tracking 
without substantial coordination. And no doubt there are 
idiosyncratic and frustrating situations in mine developments, 
but the reality is the time to permit a hardrock mine is closer 
to 2 years, according to the GAO, and where delays occur, they 
are overwhelmingly caused by the applicant.
    Predictability is often emphasized in describing 
environmental review of mining, but predictability is also 
important to environmental groups and Tribes to know what land, 
water, and air is predictable. More predictability on all sides 
will help avoid the most intractable controversies.
    Five, the U.S. should build a modern critical minerals 
program around a modern mining law, not a 153-year-old law 
signed by Ulysses S Grant. The 1872 law was intended for 
settlement of the American West. Without key reforms, this 
antiquated mining law will continue to cause unnecessary 
environmental degradation and environmental inequality. The 
mining law is a bad deal for U.S. taxpayers as well, as 
developers get these minerals royalty-free, sometimes being 
exported to other countries to be processed. These royalties 
also could be used to pay to finance some of the cleanup and 
remediation of legacy mine pollution.
    Finally, reshoring domestic supply chains while undermining 
incentives for electric vehicles sends mixed signals and is a 
recipe for contradictory outcomes. Developing critical mineral 
supplies would be strengthened by maintaining policies to 
encourage electric vehicles, including the Clean Car Rule and 
Inflation Reduction Act incentives. Uncertainty about the fate 
of these laws and policies sends signals to buyers that perhaps 
demand might not materialize. Certainty is crucial for major 
infrastructure investments, and mixed signals does not inspire 
certainty.
    In closing, we have a responsibility to steward the lands 
and waters where critical minerals will be extracted, and some 
places should be off limits to development. Responsible and 
sustainable mine development, paired with efforts to close the 
loop and waste streams, will be needed to meet critical mineral 
demands in coming decades. At the end of the day, critical 
minerals are exhaustible. Earth will not endlessly provide 
these natural resources.
    Thank you, and I look forward to a productive conversation.

    [The prepared statement of Dr. Mulvaney follows:]
    Prepared Statement of Dustin Mulvaney, Professor, Environmental 
                   Studies, San Jose State University

    To the esteemed members of this committee, it is a great privilege 
to speak before you today.
    I am a Professor of Environmental Studies at San Jose State 
University. This testimony reflects my views and expertise on the 
topics herein, and I am not speaking on behalf of my affiliated 
organizations or anyone but myself.
    My areas of expertise and research are on land use change, life 
cycle analysis, and recycling & waste impacts of energy technologies, 
supply chains, and infrastructures with an extensive emphasis on the 
life cycle impacts of solar photovoltaics and lithium-ion batteries. I 
have a Ph.D. in Environmental Studies from the University of 
California, Santa Cruz, a Master's of Science degree in Environmental 
Policy Studies, and a Bachelor's of Science degree in Chemical 
Engineering, the latter two from the New Jersey Institute of 
Technology. Professional private sector experience includes work in 
chemical manufacturing, environmental remediation, and environmental 
consulting. I have been an expert witness at the California, New York 
and Utah Public Utilities/Service Commissions, and have participated in 
the development of waste, land use, and energy policy with legislators, 
across federal, state, county, and service agencies and commissions 
over the past decade and a half. I serve on the Technical Advisory 
Committee to the Recycling and Waste Reduction Commission of Santa 
Clara County, the Technical Committee for Sustainability and Ultra-Low 
Carbon Solar standards for photovoltaics developed by the Green 
Electronics Council, advisor to the PV Perovskite Accelerator for 
Commercial Technologies hosted by Sandia National Labs/National 
Renewable Energy Laboratory, and was selected to be an author of the 
southwest chapter of the 6th National Climate Assessment of the U.S. 
Global Change Program. I am also part of the Lithium Valley Equity 
Technical Advisory Group advising Comite Civico del Valle on issues 
related to the development of geothermal and lithium near the Salton 
Sea in Imperial County, California.
Introduction
    The development of domestic supply chains for critical minerals is 
crucial to energy, technology, and military applications. We are in the 
midst of a low carbon energy transition--one where solar, wind, 
batteries, and electric vehicles are outpacing even the expectations of 
professional analysts. This means high demand for materials like 
lithium, nickel, graphite, cobalt, rare earth elements, and others.
    Supply chain disruptions from bottlenecks, geographic 
concentration, and trade restrictions in recent years have shown 
vulnerabilities to the domestic economy and energy systems. The 
dependence on critical minerals of many key technologies to the U.S. 
economy make securing adequate supplies crucial to national security, 
economic prosperity, and safeguarding this planet we share.
1. Mining's legacy of water contamination and waste warrants a more 
        sustainable approach to mining and mineral extraction.
    From acid mine drainage and heavy metal tailings pollution, to 
groundwater overextraction and stream dewatering, mineral extraction 
has impacted to groundwater and freshwater across the U.S. Water 
contamination from mining can impact drinking water and affect aquatic 
plants, fish, and wildlife. Groundwater depletion can occur from over-
extraction. Using global data from the U.S. Geological Survey, the 
World Resource Institute found that ``at least 16% of the world's land-
based critical mineral mines, deposits and districts are located in 
areas already facing high or extremely high levels of water stress.'' 
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    The Thacker Pass mine under construction in Nevada will use 2,500-
acre feet per year for 41 years, which is about 104,000 acre-feet of 
water total, posing threat to over-drafting the Kings River aquifer. 
There are several new gold mines under development and proposed in 
Nevada not far from Death Valley National Park, that are using 
substantial amounts of water, including one mining operation that will 
use water from a spring in the park, which receives about two inches of 
rain per year.
    Even alternative extraction techniques can impact groundwater. 
Direct Lithium Extraction (DLE) for example near the Salton Sea, where 
several pilot projects are underway to extract lithium from brines in 
the Salton Sea geothermal anomaly. DLE project proposed near the Salton 
Sea has raised questions about where water will come from, as the 
region already is the largest customer of Colorado River water, and 
impacts such as wastewater reinjection and subsidence, and was fined by 
the USEPA in 2024 for 1,200 dewatering 1,200 acres of wetlands.\2\ The 
dead vegetation made fuel for a wildfire in the wetland in November 
2024.
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    \2\ USEPA. 2024. EPA Settles with Hell's Kitchen Geothermal over 
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    The extraction of metals and minerals can be made cleaner. Even the 
most controversial mining projects today, when comparing old versus new 
techniques and best practices, the difference could not be more stark. 
New mines are cleaner and better, more efficient, and less polluting, 
and produce less waste. However, questions about mining can be more 
complicated by impacts to specific places indigenous communities, 
wildlife, landscapes, and water. One can have the most sustainable 
mining practices in the world, but if the site is a place people value, 
it will face opposition. To build infrastructure projects, getting 
community support in a collaborative way that provides communities with 
benefits is imperative. Finding a way to get communities, NGOs, and 
Tribes involved from the start can help ensure the community accepts 
and gives consent to the project, an makes it more likely benefits from 
the project recirculate in the community.
2. The development of new sites of mineral extraction cannot come at 
        the expense of our wildlife, water-dependent ecosystem, and 
        riparian habitat.
    The impacts of mining to water resources and riparian habitat 
across the United States cannot be understated. According to an 
analysis from Trout Unlimited, ``half of the known critical mineral 
deposits in the U.S. are within trout and salmon habitat, and one in 
ten deposits are in protected public land areas like wilderness.'' \3\ 
The same report notes that many critical minerals overlap with sage 
grouse habitat and major big game wildlife corridors. Rhyolite Ridge is 
a lithium mining project being developed by an Australian mining 
company that will impact Tiehm's buckwheat (Eriogonum tiehmii), a 
species that only exists on that particular site.
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    \3\ Trout Unlimited.2023. Critical Minerals Report. A Path Forward. 
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    In Nevada's Amargosa Valley near the Ash Meadows reserve, an 
exploratory lithium development project was almost allowed under that 
1872 law to drill 30 boreholes without any environmental review, within 
2,000 feet of springs that are critical habitat for the endangered Ash 
Meadows Amargosa pupfish. If not for the community and an environmental 
group recognizing the BLM mistake, this critical habitat could have 
been comprised by a speculative venture.
    Things we all agree on is the importance of our nation's water, 
wildlife, and other natural resources. The question is what approaches 
help to achieve that. Some say we need to reform the Endangered Species 
Act or National Environmental Act or take away community inputs. But 
this would be counterproductive and runs contrary to the best practices 
for mining or any energy infrastructure development. Public policy 
efforts to develop critical minerals should do so responsibly and 
should not undermine bedrock environmental laws.
    Predictability to developers is often emphasized when describing 
environmental oversight of mining, but predictability is also important 
to environmental groups and Tribes to know what land, water, and air is 
protected, and that there are community safeguards like strong 
environmental rules and opportunities for public participation. More 
predictability on all sides will help avoid the most intractable 
controversies.
3. Domestic critical minerals development should protect Native 
        American sovereignty, self-determination, and meaningful 
        consultation cultural resources.
    Critical minerals development is likely to be significantly 
impactful to Native American tribes. Most mining activity in the United 
States is in the American West, and within close proximity to Native 
American communities. Morgan Stanley Capital International states that 
79% of lithium mining claims, 89% of copper deposits, and 97% of nickel 
deposits are within 35 miles of a Native American reservation. 
Furthermore, the Bureau of Land Management has an obligation to conduct 
prior consultation on projects proposed across public lands because of 
important sacred sites off-reservation on their ancestral territories.
    Mining activities that put drinking water and cultural resources at 
risk, making it crucially important to ensure community acceptance and 
respect for tribal sovereignty and cultural resources. It is not 
uncommon to hear that the federal consultation process for National 
Historic Preservation Act to take one example is ``failing tribes'' on 
adequate and meaningful consultation. Instead of looking for ways to 
short circuit environmental and cultural resource review--by 
undermining nation-to-nation consultation or fast-tracking review--the 
United States should strengthen Tribal consultation around the ideas of 
self-determination and ``Free, Prior and Informed Consent'' as 
described by International Labour Organization's Convention number 169, 
the United Nation Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples.
    It is frequently stated that the United States' mining practices 
are the best in the world because they have the strongest global 
environmental regulations. That may be true. But the issue of Tribal 
consultation needs significant improvement to catch up with 
international norms and standards on relations between mining 
activities and Indigenous peoples. The Department of the Interior's 
Interagency Working Group report makes a variety of recommendations to 
improve the permitting process for mining projects, including 
prioritizing mine plans that maximize environmental and social best 
practices, and developing clear procedures for engaging stakeholders 
earlier in the process and in a more meaningful way. The Department of 
the Interior's new ``pre-plan coordination'' is a step in the right 
direction by bringing stakeholders together to understand each other's 
priorities and concerns.\4\ Several projects proposed in recent years 
including the Oak Flat-Resolution Copper case study, show that Tribal 
concerns are still not adequately considered in the decision-making 
process. We have to respect that some places are sacred to Indigenous 
communities and should not be developed.
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4. Domestic critical mineral supply chain resilience means reshoring 
        the entire supply chain
    Importantly, it is crucial to realize that without ensuring the 
entire supply chain is domestic, it is still vulnerable to disruption. 
Domestic mining that still requires overseas smelting or chemical 
processing before returning to domestic manufacturing is still a system 
vulnerable to disruption and geopolitical tensions. Increased mining 
alone will not solve this. If the entire supply chain is not reshored, 
it is not a domestic supply chain, and it is still vulnerable to global 
geopolitical or trade issues. Not that reshoring should be the goal, 
but that national security risks from supply chain disruption do not 
simply go away because the extraction phase of the commodity chain is 
located in the U.S.
    The fact that the U.S. lacks many of the processing, separation and 
production steps in the critical minerals supply chain, is why there 
were so many investments in the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act 
and Inflation Reduction Act intended to increase domestic production, 
separation, and processing.
5. Move away from the ``take-make-waste'' economy, toward a circular 
        economy
    We cannot recycle our way out of critical minerals challenges. But 
more progress is needed away from take-make-waste and toward a circular 
economy. The U.S. lacks a comprehensive federal policy to encourage 
electronics and electrical equipment recovery and recycling, leaving 
states to patch together policies. These are critical mineral resources 
in our hands that we let slip through our fingers.
    It is common hear about the urgency to develop mines for the 
materials that are foundational to our technological development and 
energy technologies. Copper for example is crucial to modern economies 
and energy systems and forecasted supplies risk falling short and may 
be subject to price volatility, leading analysts to emphasize the need 
to develop new copper mines. Yet, according to the Copper Alliance, 
less than 40% of global copper is currently recycled. Research from 
Fraunhofer Institute for Systems and Innovation finds similarly that 2/
3rds of end-of-life copper are sent to landfills annually.
    Building a circular economy means developing resources, but 
ensuring those resources stay in the economy after the end-of-life. 
This means extracting critical minerals from waste streams, end-of-life 
products, reduce demand through resource efficiency and material 
substitution.
    Waste flows from end-of-life electronic products often have 
significantly more critical minerals by percent than the ores they are 
obtained from in mining. Rare earth elements in end-of-life electronics 
are almost all lost through waste flows in the United States. Less than 
5% of rare earth elements globally are recycled according to the trade 
press Recycling International. Recycling consumer electronic products 
and utilizing byproducts of other materials processing could yield 
double to ten times the rare earth elements that could be extracted 
through processing the raw materials. Three to four times more 
dysprosium can be obtained from recycling headphones than from rare 
earth element ores. An iPhone touch screen has more lanthanum to make 
those bright colors, than is typically found in rare earth element 
ores. Similarly, there is a higher percent of neodymium obtained from 
recycling wind turbine magnets, than are found in those rare earth 
element ores. In an era of declining ore grades, these waste flows 
should be seen as resources to boost critical mineral supplies.
Critical minerals from mine waste
    Here is an example from today's headlines. Tellurium is critical to 
the development of thin film photovoltaics. US-based thin film 
photovoltaic manufacturer First Solar--arguably the only solar 
manufacturing company that has successfully fought off competition from 
China over the past decade and a half--uses about 40% of the global 
supply of tellurium.
    On Tuesday February 4th 2025, China announced tellurium and four 
other key critical minerals would be subject to tariffs and export 
controls. USGS reports that China supplies about 67% of global 
tellurium. First Solar's tellurium supplier 5NPlus doesn't disclose 
their tellurium suppliers, but First Solar's conflict minerals SEC 
disclosure says a quarter of the smelters and refineries in their 
supply chains are in China.\5\
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market. SBC Global. https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/
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    Tellurium is found with copper but not profitable enough to extract 
at most copper mines. Rio Tinto partnered with First Solar and 5NPlus 
in 2021 to invest $2.9 million in a tellurium plant to produce about 20 
tons annually, or about 4% of estimated global production last year, at 
its Kennecott mine near Salt Lake City, Utah. This production did not 
require opening new mines or changing environmental laws. The 
production is the mines waste stream. Waste and ``tailings 
valorization'' approaches like these are another strategy to augment 
critical mineral supplies.
Critical minerals from recycling and resource efficiency
    First Solar also recycles their photovoltaic modules and can 
recover 95% of the tellurium from their process. These materials are 
recovered and sent to their supplier who can make new tellurium 
feedstock for cadmium telluride semiconductors.
    First Solar also has worked to reduce the material intensity of 
tellurium in First Solar's modules has been reduced by over 50% in the 
past decade.
    The government has an important role to play. A recent partnership 
between First Solar and the Department of Energy created the Cadmium 
Telluride Accelerator Consortium and intends to make solar more 
affordable and develop and ``Maintain or increase domestic CdTe PV 
material and module production through 2030.'' \6\
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    A well-supported National Science Foundation can also play an 
important role. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act section 
40210 on critical minerals mining and recycling research, directs the 
Secretary of Energy, in coordination with the Director of the National 
Science Foundation to issue grants to support research on critical 
minerals mining, recycling, and reclamation strategies and technologies 
to make better use of domestic resources and to eliminate national 
reliance on minerals and mineral materials that are subject to supply 
disruptions.
Critical minerals research and development
    A circular economy approach to tellurium involves (1) recovering 
the critical mineral from mine waste, (2) recycling end-of-life 
products that contain critical minerals, and (3) reducing demand for 
critical materials through greater material utilization and resource 
efficiency.
    Materials recovery in mining and downstream processing is optimized 
for profitability not maximizing materials or biproducts. More 
incentives to develop biproducts, recover materials at smelters, or 
increase recovery rates could help drive up recycling of materials. 
Smelters in the United States are not designed to recover many critical 
minerals. For example, there are no smelters that can recover cobalt in 
the United States.
    There are also excellent examples of resource efficiency avoiding 
significant amounts of materials. A photovoltaic module today, thanks 
to increased resource efficiencies, uses about five times less silver 
than a photovoltaic module yesterday. Similar, semiconductor wafers in 
the same technology are two to three times thinner than just a decade 
ago. This has translated to lower energy inputs and silicon feedstocks 
needed for the solar industry.
    Other ways to increase resource efficiency across society as well. 
In a recent report from the Climate and Community Project they found up 
to 90% of lithium demand can be reduced by encouraging public 
transportation and more lightweight electric vehicles and other modes 
of transportation.
    To date, much of the conversation and public policy effort on 
critical minerals has focused solely on mining. But recycling, 
alternative extraction techniques, resource efficiency, and harvesting 
materials from waste streams offer significant promise for enhancing 
the nation's supply of critical minerals, and lessening the risks of 
and exposures to supply chain disruptions. It seems profoundly wasteful 
that we would allow critical materials be landfilled at the same time 
we talk about the dire national security consequences of a lack of 
supply and promote greenfield mine vdevelopment elsewhere.
    The United States has some of the premier research institutions in 
the world that could be working on these. My friend and colleague here 
from the Colorado School of Mines for example, can tell you more about 
work that's happening at the nation's premier mining university. They 
are ahead of the game, and working on projects from recovering minerals 
from mining waste to mining asteroids. More emphasis on research and 
development will help close the loop for a circular economy in critical 
minerals. This wouldn't preclude the development of mines of course, no 
one is saying that recycling will meet the future demand for all the 
materials we need. Multiple resource streams including wastes will be 
required to for a holistic approach to ensuring resilient supply 
chains.
6. Undermining environmental laws will increase the time to build mines
    Ask any scholar or mining executive and they will tell you the most 
important thing to help a mine move forward is a social license to 
operate. This trust is something gained through notification, 
consultation, listening, providing community benefits, offering an 
ownership stake, etc. This becomes extremely difficult to do under 
circumstances such as ``fast-tracking'' without substantial 
coordination.
    The need to prioritize development of domestic minerals supplies 
should not undermine meaningful environmental review. Conservation 
groups, Indigenous peoples, and local communities feel that 
environmental review, even where an environmental impact statement 
might be required, is a foregone conclusion. Many communities view the 
NEPA process as a ``decide-announce-defend'' development strategy where 
developers and investors decide where they want to propose a project, 
announce it to the public, and then spend the review process defending 
the project.
    I disagree with the sentiment of advocates of ``permitting reform'' 
that we can wave a magic wand and make mine approvals move faster. This 
a bipartisan sentiment shared by climate hawks and energy dominance 
narratives alike, and unfortunately it is not based in fact. Instead, 
more collaborative approaches are shown to be effective at gaining 
community support and trust--the social license to operate. Transparent 
and meaningful public participation processes should result in 
responsible mine development and reduced community opposition to new 
mines.
    It is often claimed that it takes 7 to 10 years or more to permit a 
new mine. The memo for this hearing says it takes 27 years to develop a 
mine from idea to production. But most of this time is exploring and 
making business decisions, not permitting.
    The reality is the time to permit a hard rock mine is two years 
according to the Government Accountability Office. The GAO found some 
mines take up to 11 years, but their interviews with agencies and mine 
operators found delays were overwhelming caused by the applicant. More 
broadly, another GAO report found only 1% of NEPA covered projects need 
an Environmental Impact Statement. Only 5% of covered projects require 
an Environmental Assessment, a shorter environmental disclosure 
document that typically is completed in nine months or so.
    Critical minerals designations are used to develop resources with 
fewer safeguards, less community engagement and Tribal consultation, 
and shorter time for public review. Designation of certain minerals as 
critical minerals simply to have the ability to fast-track projects 
does not help ensure we have domestic supply chains and undermines 
efforts to gain the social license to operate.
    The US already has tools to expedite mine permitting like FAST-41. 
The IRA made the FAST-41 Act permanent, extended the provisions of the 
law to mining, and provided significant funding for agencies to process 
permits.
    What appears to some to be an industry stalled by ``red tape and 
bureaucracy'' is probably better explained by low commodities prices 
and business decisions in the face of uncertainty.
7. Build a modern critical minerals program around a modern mining law
    The 1872 mining law makes mining the highest and best use of public 
lands and reflects a time long since passed. The 1872 law was intended 
for settler colonialism on the western frontier not for mining in a 
modern high-tech economy. Federal and public lands should not be new 
sacrifice zones for critical minerals. Without key reforms, the 
antiquated mining law will continue to cause unnecessary environmental 
degradation and environmental inequality.
    The exploratory claims-based system is outdated, with most other 
parts of the world having lease-based systems that are more competitive 
and result in better decision-making on land uses.
    Mining law needs a better plan to pay for remediation of old mines. 
The 1872 mining law set the bar too low for bonding mine sites for 
reclamation and cleanup. The Government Accountability Office (GAO) 
estimates that federal agencies spent $2.9 billion in the decade from 
2008 to 2017 on cleanup activities, and this could cost taxpayers up to 
$54 billion to clean up the nation's 400,000 to 500,000 abandoned mine 
sites that pose hazardous threats to communities.
    The Initiative for Responsible Mining Assurance (IRMA) could be a 
model for reforming the 1872 law. IRMA allows for independent audits of 
mines to ensure environmental and social performance. Even the White 
House refereed to IMRA as a ``method for U.S. companies and the Federal 
Government to ensure that minerals are being sourced from mines with 
robust environmental, social, and financial responsibility policies.'' 
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    The mining law also is a bad deal for U.S. taxpayers. Because of an 
outdated mining law, developers of these minerals get them royalty 
free. This is not a deal just for American companies, foreign companies 
can also mine materials before shipping them to be processed overseas. 
Reforming the mining law signed by Ulysses S. Grant would go far to 
bring the law into conformance for what is needed in a modern economy. 
Reform to the royalty system would benefit taxpayers, given there are 
no royalties for hard rock mining under the law today. Reform of the 
royalty program could raise substantial revenues to help finance the 
clean up and remediation of legacy mine pollution.
8. Provide community benefits for developing critical minerals
    Where mines will be developed, bringing community benefits to the 
table will be important tools for public support, buy-in, and trust. 
Furthermore, to reap more community benefits, more value-added 
industries to support the development of critical minerals supplies can 
ensure more jobs and local revenues are generated. Mining tends to have 
a very low value added without these downstream manufacturing 
activities.
    Community benefits should be broadly construed to benefit as many 
as possible. The widely celebrated community benefits agreement between 
Lithium Americas and Thacker Pass and the Fort McDermitt Paiute and 
Shoshone Tribe is a one example worth looking at closely. While 
benefits accrue to some communities from this project, other tribes 
with ancestral claims to the landscape such as the People of Red 
Mountain feel their voices were not acknowledged and will receive no 
benefits.
    Other examples that could be a model for how to build in community 
benefits is the approach used in the Salton Sea and suggested by the 
Blue Ribbon Commission on Lithium Extraction in California. That 
process is early on, but will be worth watching closely.
    Community benefits will help gain local acceptance and 
collaboration with project development.
9. Reshoring domestic supply chains while undermining incentives for 
        electric vehicles will result in contradictory outcomes
    What many mistake for an investors lack of commitment to mining 
projects is more about ensuring projects are economically viable. This 
often requires partnerships. China's state-backed enterprises mean that 
mine developers there have a backstop to ensure projects are completed. 
In the US, extractive industry developments around critical minerals 
often seek out OEM partners, including many automobile manufacturers.
    Developing critical minerals supplies would be strengthened by 
maintaining policies to encourage electric vehicles include the Clean 
Car rule and Inflation Reduction Act incentives. But uncertainty about 
the fate of these laws and policies sends signals to buyers that 
perhaps demand for lithium and other key battery parts do not 
materialize.
    In summary, we need to be strategic and thoughtful about how to 
grow domestic extractive industries, especially mining industries, and 
build a low carbon economy. Failure to do so will undermine the 
benefits that critical minerals development and an energy transition 
will bring and risk leaving vulnerable and historically marginalized 
communities behind, and falling short of meeting broader national 
security and technological development imperatives. I believe we can 
responsibly safeguard environmental protections, cultural resources, 
respect Native American self-determination and sovereignty, and create 
quality high-road domestic jobs in a critical minerals circular 
economy. Durable due diligence and risk management grounded in 
international best practice to evaluate impacts and make good decisions 
can reduce potential harms to communities, maintains companies' social 
license to operate, and protects US investments.
    Critical minerals are exhaustible. Earth will not endlessly provide 
these resources. We have to steward the lands and water where critical 
minerals are extracted, and close the loop to keep them in our economy.
    Thank you again to this committee for hosting this discussion and I 
look forward to any questions and a productive conversation.

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Questions Submitted for the Record to Dr. Dustin Mulvaney, Professor of 
           Environmental Studies at San Jose State University

Dr. Mulvaney did not submit responses to the Committee by the 
appropriate deadline for inclusion in the printed record.

             Questions Submitted by Representative Huffman

    Question 1. Could you clarify the potential for recycled critical 
minerals to meet by demand by 2030 versus by 2050? What role has 
federal research played in achieving those goals?

    Question 2. Are there examples of policies, standards, and 
certifications that would more rapidly facilitate a circular economy in 
critical minerals?

    Question 3. Could you provide a few more examples of where early 
collaboration resulted in better outcomes with critical minerals mining 
projects?

    Question 4. What are the key characteristics of a critical minerals 
extraction project that has social license?

    Question 5. What are the key characteristics of a critical minerals 
extraction project using best practices that can be built quickly?

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    Mr. Stauber. Thank you for your testimony. Our final 
witness is Ms. Mckinsey Lyon, and she is the Vice President of 
External Affairs at Perpetua Resources, and she is based in 
Donnelly, Idaho.
    Ms. Lyon, you are now recognized for 5 minutes.

 STATEMENT OF MCKINSEY LYON, VICE PRESIDENT, EXTERNAL AFFAIRS, 
              PERPETUA RESOURCES, DONNELLY, IDAHO

    Ms. Lyon. Good morning, Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member 
Ansari, and members of the Subcommittee. My name is Mackenzie 
Lyon. I am an Idahoan and I am Vice President of External 
Affairs for Perpetua Resources.
    In the heart of central Idaho, the Stibnite Gold Project is 
designed to return to and to restore an abandoned mining site, 
to breathe economic vitality into our rural communities, to 
responsibly produce gold, and provide the only domestically-
mined source of the critical mineral antimony. And it is 
actually the history of this site that I think is so relevant 
to our conversation today, because on the eve of World War II 
it was the blockade in the Pacific that meant the United States 
no longer had access to the antimony and the tungsten we 
needed. So, the U.S. Government turned to Stibnite, Idaho that 
then produced the majority of the antimony and tungsten used 
during the war effort. At the end of the war the U.S. Munitions 
Board then credited the men and women of Stibnite, Idaho for 
having shortened World War II by a year, thus saving a million 
American lives. So, the minerals in my backyard changed the 
course of history.
    But after World War II and the Korean War, our sources of 
antimony here domestically went offline. And once again, our 
industrial base became completely reliant on China for a source 
of antimony. Today, antimony has a huge array of commercial 
applications, from semiconductors to solar panels, lubricants, 
and fire retardant. The Department of Defense today uses a 
specific form of antimony called antimony trisulfide as a 
unique, non-replaceable component in over 300 types of 
ammunition.
    Despite antimony's importance in America's defense and 
manufacturing base, we are almost entirely dependent on non-
allied nations. All told, China, Russia, and Tajikistan control 
90 percent of global antimony, 80 percent of which goes through 
Chinese processing facilities. With this level of dominance, in 
2021 China was able to cut off America's sole supply of 
military-spec antimony trisulfide for the Department of 
Defense, wounding our defense readiness. Taking it further, 
just last year the Chinese Government struck our exposed 
Achilles heel, turning off and completely banning all antimony 
products being exported to the United States. And today, a once 
very little paid-attention-to supply chain is now unable to 
provide antimony.
    The good news is the Stibnite Gold Project is the nearest-
term solution to this urgent challenge. We hold a reserve of 
148 million pounds of antimony, the only reserve of antimony 
identified in this country. And last month, we received our 
final record of decision from the U.S. Forest Service.
    For us, 8 years of permitting came after 6 years of early 
community engagement and environmental planning. Getting to 
this point, however, represents a $400 million investment that 
includes up to $75 million in Defense Production Act funding 
and Army research funds. We need to begin our 3-year 
construction process this summer if we are going to produce 
antimony by 2028. However, we do still wait on one Federal 
authorization.
    We also hope to utilize debt financing from the U.S. 
Export-Import Bank under the Make More in America program and 
the China Transformational Exports Program. Our anticipated 18-
year timeline from prospecting to production is just too long. 
Our Nation can't wait 18 years to bring critical resources 
online, especially for vital technology, energy, and 
manufacturing needs that put our security and our economy at 
risk when China decides to turn off the tap.
    When we choose to control our critical minerals, we protect 
our future. I am often reminded of a quote from Benjamin 
Franklin saying, ``But for want of a nail, the kingdom fell.'' 
And critical minerals, while they may be sometimes obscure or 
used in small volumes, are our proverbial nail. They are the 
foundation of our economic, energy, and national security. And 
it is time to learn from our history, and it is time to bring 
back the American mining industry by choosing to bring 
responsible mining home.
    Mr. Chairman, thank you and I look forward to the 
discussion.

    [The prepared statement of Ms. Lyon follows:]
    Prepared Statement of Mckinsey M. Lyon, VP of External Affairs,
                           Perpetua Resources

                       The Stibnite Gold Project:

        Our Nearest-Term Solution to China's Antimony Crackdown

    Good morning Chairman Stauber, Ranking Member Ansari, and members 
of the subcommittee. My name is Mckinsey Lyon, I am an Idahoan, and I 
serve as Vice President of External Affairs for Perpetua Resources.
    My road to becoming a miner was unconventional. When this company 
came to my office in 2012, they said they wanted help making sure they 
did this ``right from the start''--and saw community and stakeholder 
communication as a pillar of that vision. However, I started out as a 
skeptic, not wanting to see mining return to my backyard. Then I met 
the people in mining and saw that we shared values. Quickly, I then 
learned more about the regulatory system that shapes the safety and 
environmental rigor of the industry. But, I truly became a miner when I 
came to recognize that I was more comfortable with mining in my 
backyard than I was with the reality of pushing these impacts to places 
I will never go, to people I will never meet, under conditions I can 
never control. I joined this team fully in 2017 and see the Stibnite 
Gold Project as the right project for my backyard and for my country.
    Located in the heart of central Idaho, our Stibnite Gold Project is 
designed to return to and restore an abandoned mine site, breathe 
economic vitality into our rural communities, responsibly produce gold, 
and provide the only domestically mined source of the critical mineral 
antimony.
    Our site's history is particularly important to today's discussion. 
It goes back to the eve of World War II when blockades in the Pacific 
cut off America's supply of antimony and tungsten being sourced from 
China. The Stibnite Mining District in Idaho was then tapped to supply 
antimony and tungsten for the war effort. At the conclusion of war, the 
US Munitions Board credited the men and women of Stibnite with 
shortening World War II by a year and saving one million American 
lives. But following the Allied victory, all domestically mined sources 
of antimony were taken offline. And once again, our industrial base 
became reliant on Chinese-sourced antimony.
    Today, antimony has a huge array of commercial applications, from 
semiconductors and batteries to lubricants and fire retardants. The 
Department of Defense uses antimony trisulfide as a key, non-
replaceable component in the primer for hundreds of munition types. 
Despite antimony's importance to America's defense and manufacturing 
base, we are almost entirely dependent on non-allied nations.
    All told, China, Russia, and Tajikistan control 90% of mined 
antimony, up to 80% of which is distributed through China's processing 
facilities.
    With this level of dominance, in 2021, China was able to cut off 
America's supply of military grade antimony trisulfide--wounding our 
defense readiness. Taking it further, last year, the Chinese government 
struck our exposed Achilles heel, completely banning all antimony 
exports to the US, expanding the impact to all industrial and 
manufacturing uses of antimony. Today, US manufacturers are receiving 
force majeure notices that supply chains, once paid little attention 
to, are now unable to provide antimony.
    The Stibnite Gold Project is the best and nearest-term solution to 
this urgent challenge. We hold a reserve of 148 million pounds of 
antimony, and last month, we received our Final Record of Decision from 
the U.S. Forest Service, capping eight years of NEPA review.
    Our 8 years in permitting came after 6 years in early community 
engagement and environmental planning--in total representing over $400 
million in investment to-date--including nearly $75 million in Defense 
Production Act funding and army research funds.
    And to be clear, we have not yet been able to put a shovel in the 
ground. We still need a few more authorizations before we can begin the 
3-year construction process this summer. We also hope to utilize debt 
financing from US EXIM under the Make More in America and China 
Transformational Exports Programs. Getting into construction this year 
is vital to meet the DOD's need for antimony by 2028.
    Without a secure source of antimony trisulfide soon, our 
warfighters may be at risk. While we are new to the industrial base, we 
are taking our role as a potential supplier with utmost urgency. 
Without DOD's focus on antimony, and the Defense Production Act funds 
made available, we would not be here today.
    This 18-year timeline from prospecting to production is far too 
long--our nation cannot wait 18 years to bring critical resources 
online--especially for vital technology, energy and manufacturing 
inputs that put our security and economy at risk when China decides to 
turn off the tap.
    When we control our access to critical minerals, we control our 
prosperity and protect our future. Benjamin Franklin is quoted as 
saying ``but for want of a nail, the kingdom fell.'' Critical minerals, 
while they may be obscure or used in small volumes, are our proverbial 
nail--the foundation of our economic, energy and national security. It 
is time to learn from our history and reaffirm our commitment to 
building back American industry by bringing responsible mining home.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I look forward to our discussion.
BACKGROUND on the STIBNITE GOLD PROJECT

    The Stibnite Gold Project (Project) is in the abandoned Stibnite 
Mining District in central Idaho. The site produced 90% of the antimony 
and 50% of the tungsten used by the US war efforts during World War II 
and the Korean War. Gold production occurred intermittently until the 
mid-1990's. Between 2000-2012, the site was officially abandoned by 
former operators and government parties.
    Today, Perpetua Resources is nearing final permitting approvals to 
redevelop the site for the remaining 4.8 million ounce gold reserve and 
148 million pound antimony reserve. With gold as the economic driver, 
the Project is also designed to repair environmental legacies left 
behind from mining activities that started over a century ago, leaving 
the environment better than it is today.
    The Stibnite Gold Project is the only identified domestic reserve 
of antimony (USGS 2025) and the only domestic source of mil-spec 
antimony trisulfide.
Project:
    Perpetua Resources, earlier known as Midas Gold, began 
investigating the site for redevelopment in 2010 and submitted the Plan 
of Restoration and Operations to the U.S. Forest Service for evaluation 
under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) process in September 
of 2016.
    Altogether, the Stibnite Gold Project has undergone 14 years of 
scientific study, community engagement, and engineering (2010-2024); 8 
years in the National Environmental Policy Act (``NEPA'') permitting 
process (2016-2024); 150 days of formal public comment in which 28,000 
letters were received, with approximately 85% expressing support for 
the Project; and a 90-day objection and resolution period led by the 
U.S. Forest Service.

    Through the long and detailed permitting process, Perpetua has 
worked with stakeholders and regulators to improve the environmental 
outcomes of the project to reach the ultimate vision of being able to 
``restore the site.'' From the original plan submitted in 2016 to the 
Draft EIS in 2020 and then the Supplemental Draft EIS in 2022, the 
project when through a number of design changes and improved outcomes, 
including:

     13% reduction in project footprint over original design.

     70% reduction in Hangar Flats Pit over original design.

     20+ miles of habitat opened for migrating fish.

     96% reduction in arsenic in Meadow Creek vs. existing 
            conditions.

     40% reduction in arsenic in EFSF Salmon River (below Sugar 
            Creek) vs. existing conditions.

     140% uplift in wetlands quality (wetland functional 
            units).

     63% net increase in wetland acres vs. existing conditions.

     Water temperature reduced to be at, or below, existing 
            conditions.

     60% reduction in mercury emissions over original design to 
            be less than 20% of applicable EPA standards.

     9.5% uplift in stream habitat quality (stream functional 
            units).

    Significantly, the 2022 Supplemental EIS found ``The restoration 
activities, particularly providing volitional passage in the East Fork 
SFSR, would result in major, permanent, regional, and beneficial effect 
on Chinook salmon, steelhead, bull trout, and westslope cutthroat trout 
within the vicinity of the mine.'' (US Forest Service, 2022 SDEIS)
    In the Final Record of Decision published in January 2025, the US 
Forest Service conditioned approval on a number of mitigation measures 
specific to tribal interests. These mandatory mitigations include a 
Tribal Monitoring program and a Tribal Observation program in addition 
to a Tribal Member Access program to ensure tribal members can access 
the site.
Antimony:
    Antimony, a listed critical mineral, is essential for national 
defense, technology, and energy applications. It is a primer in 
hundreds of munition types, a doping agent in semiconductors and 
printed circuit boards, and a central component in solar panels and 
wind turbines. However, today, no domestically mined supply of antimony 
currently exists. The United States meets 18 percent of demand through 
the recycling of lead-acid batteries, but is otherwise import reliant 
on China (63 percent), Belgium (8 percent), India (6 percent), and 
Bolivia (4 percent). (CSIS, 8.20)
    Globally, 50 percent of antimony usage goes to flame retardants, 
20 percent in photovoltaic glass to improve solar cell performance and 
the remainder goes to products like lead-acid batteries, break pads, 
lubricants, and defense applications such as ammunition, infrared 
missiles, nuclear weapons and night vision goggles.
    Antimony is a listed critical mineral, not only because of its 
essential role in defense and energy products, but also because access 
to the mineral is constrained. In August 2024, the Chinese government 
announced the intent to restrict antimony exports and in December 2024 
moved to ban the export of all antimony products. As a result, some 
analysts believe that 97 percent of antimony has stopped moving out of 
China. Recent reporting has also illuminated that over the last 20 
years, China spent over $57 billion on securing critical mineral 
resources worldwide (Mining, 1.25).
    In the US, the leading uses of antimony include antimonial lead and 
ammunition, as well as flame retardants, according to US Geological 
Survey in 2024 (South China Morning Post, 8.15) and flame retardants, 
as well as ceramics, glass and rubber products (Bloomberg, 8.15).
    Antimony products will typically rely on either antimony 
trisulfide, antimony oxides or antimony metal. Antimony trioxide is 
arguably one of the most important of the antimony compounds--it is 
primarily used in flame-retardant formulations. (South China Morning 
Post, 8.15). And the use of antimony trioxide as a clarifying agent in 
photovoltaic glass has been on the rise in the past years (South China 
Morning Post, 8.15). About a fifth of antimony was used to make 
photovoltaic glass to improve the performance of solar cells (Reuters, 
8.16). Antimony hydride is used in the semiconductor industry to dope 
silicon with small quantities of antimony via the chemical vapor 
deposition (CVD) process.
    The defense industrial base uses many types of antimony but the 
most critical is antimony trisulfide, which is a non-replaceable 
component for more than 300 types of munitions (Wall Street Journal, 
8.20). Antimony is used in bullets, nuclear weapons production and 
lead-acid batteries. Antimony is used in military equipment such as 
infrared missiles, nuclear weapons, products requiring lead-free 
solder, night vision goggles, and as a hardening agent for bullets and 
tanks (Asia Times, 8.17).
    Perpetua Resources' 2020 Feasibility Study estimated 115 million 
pounds of antimony will be produced from the 148 million pound reserve. 
This is enough to meet about 35 percent of US demand in the first six 
years of operations. Perpetua's Feasibility Study in 2020 assumed a 
price of about $7,700 per ton. Prices in 2024 reached a peak of 
$33,000 per ton after the export ban announcement from China.
    Price fluctuation and foreign manipulation of critical mineral 
prices is often a liability to the long-term stability and economic 
feasibility critical mineral projects domestically. In this case 
however, 95 percent of the project economics are based on gold, helping 
to insulate the production of antimony from price drops related to 
market flooding or changing market conditions.

                                 *****

Ms. Lyon's testimony contained an attachment. The full document is 
available for viewing at:

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/II/II06/20250206/117845/HHRG-119-II06-
Wstate-LyonM-20250206.pdf

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Questions Submitted for the Record to Ms. Lyon, VP of External Affairs, 
                           Perpetua Resources

             Questions Submitted by Representative Stauber

    Question 1. While the permitting process for domestic mining 
projects is far too slow and convoluted, in an effort to better 
understand what has worked well for your project, what federal 
government entities, tools, or processes have been helpful to advancing 
Perpetua's project, outside of financing through the Export-Import 
Bank's China Transformational Export Program/Make More In America 
initiatives or funding through the Department of Defense's Defense 
Production Act (DPA) Title III program?

    Answer. While the path has certainly been lengthy and complex, 
several factors within the federal government's purview were vital to 
our ultimate success in spite of the statutory and regulatory issues 
that require reform. Ultimately, the unique circumstances of an 
abandoned mine in need of restoration coupled with our critical mineral 
resource necessary for national security helped underscore the 
project's public and national interest value.
    Our project shows that the lead agency must actively take the lead 
in coordinating the multiple other agencies, setting schedules, and 
identifying solutions in order to navigate the process. The U.S. Forest 
Service approached this task with a genuine commitment to its multiple-
use mandate. In the last few years, leadership of the Payette National 
Forest and U.S. Department of Agriculture drove collaboration among 
federal agencies. These leaders rose to the challenge of leading the 
Department and Forest Service in producing a robust, defensible final 
Record of Decision for an immensely complex project.
    While interagency coordination is essential for any project, given 
the many veto points and potential for ``cooperating agencies'' to be 
far from cooperative, we have seen that a clear lead agency must set 
the tone, maintain momentum, and ensure that all contributing agencies 
remain focused on shared objectives. In our case, the Forest Service 
was highly effective in this regard, given the wide range of agencies 
involved in approving a project of this nature (such as the Fish and 
Wildlife Service, NOAA's National Marine Fisheries Service, the Army 
Corps of Engineers, the Environmental Protection Agency, and more).
    The Forest Service also recognized how the Stibnite Gold Project 
can deliver meaningful environmental benefits by remediating legacy 
environmental damage at an abandoned mine site. While we initially 
believed that the restoration at the heart of our plan would streamline 
review, the reality proved more complicated. Nonetheless, the agency's 
approach ultimately confirmed the long-term environmental benefits that 
will result from restoring this historic mining district--and this 
required leading agencies that were not inclined to come to the table 
looking for solutions to participate in a constructive manner, rather 
than enabling delay through inaction.
    Additionally, our nation's need for a reliable domestic source of 
antimony--a mineral vital to national defense and other strategic 
industries--helped focus agency interest and support for timely 
decision-making. Use of the Department of Defense's Defense Production 
Act Title III program funding not only provided the capital infusion 
the company needed to continue to progress through permitting and 
toward development, but it highlighted the need for all areas of 
government to take the review of the Project with seriousness and 
priority status.
    Lastly, clarity on the national security objectives of the project 
ultimately fostered a more streamlined interagency review where 
dedicated agency leadership helped provide the information, attention, 
and comfort to move the project forward.
    We hope these insights provide a clearer picture of the processes 
and partnerships that helped advance the Stibnite Gold Project--and 
perhaps can illustrate key lessons for future projects. Even as 
Congress takes on necessary permitting reforms, and the Trump 
administration makes key regulatory improvements, we feel that 
successful projects will still require strong leadership from the lead 
agency, interagency coordination, improved cooperating agency 
approaches, and political will to move projects in a timely fashion. As 
we move forward with the Stibnite Gold Project, we remain committed to 
demonstrating how responsible mining can yield critical minerals while 
performing transformative environmental restoration.
             Questions Submitted by Representative Fulcher

    Question 1. Ms. Lyon, your project represents an important 
investment in my district--can you speak to the jobs it will create and 
how Perpetua has made sure there is outreach to the community?

    Answer. Thank you for your question, Congressman Fulcher. We are 
proud that the Stibnite Gold Project will provide family-wage jobs, 
infrastructure, and generational investment to rural Idaho for years to 
come.
    Over the lifespan of the Stibnite Gold Project, we will employ 
hundreds annually. During our three-year construction period, we 
anticipate employing up to 1,000 workers. Once we commence operations, 
we expect to create approximately 500-600 jobs, supporting economic 
diversity and family wages in rural Idaho.
    Opportunities will be available for professionals in an array of 
fields, from craft and trade jobs to highly specialized roles. While we 
believe the Project will attract talented individuals from across the 
region, especially given our competitive compensation and two-week on/
two-week off schedule, we are focused on looking to Idaho first for 
team members and vendors wherever possible. Already, we have created 
partnerships with local schools through funding Career Technical 
Education programs in Valley County and worked with a number of truly 
fantastic student apprentices from the College of Western Idaho. We are 
also excited to see Idaho's Universities build programs of study in 
geology, engineering, computer sciences, and material sciences that 
will support the in-demand roles that come with mining projects.
    Clear, accountable, and transparent communication with our 
communities is central to our actions as a company. Our team has 
designed the Stibnite Gold Project so it benefits our local community 
as well as the environment. Together with our neighboring cities and 
counties, we developed a community agreement that creates a 
collaborative environment for us to work with local communities 
throughout the life of the project and provides a venue for residents 
to address concerns and opportunities directly with the company.
    We have also worked diligently to build a transformational 
investment in our region's future. Over the life of the Project, we 
have committed to a multi-million-dollar investment in our communities 
through the Stibnite Foundation, which was created as a part of our 
community agreement.
    In addition, we have spent over $108 million in Idaho since 2014. 
We have made $3.2 million total community contributions since 2014 and 
volunteered in excess of 15,000 hours since 2015. We will invest 
approximately $2.2 billion in Idaho just to construct the Stibnite Gold 
Project. An economic impact study estimates we will spend more than 
$232 million each year we are in operation. We will generate millions 
in new revenues through state and local taxes and our employees will 
contribute additional money for schools and local governments through 
local property taxes.
    Additionally, the Project is designed to take on abandoned 
environmental legacies that degrade water and habitat today. Through 
private investment and redevelopment of this historic site, Perpetua is 
offering to take on the restoration cost that would otherwise be the 
burden of the taxpayer and has already invested $19 million in early 
cleanup activities.
    We are excited to be an engine of Idaho's economy and woven into 
the fabric of our communities for many years to come.

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    Mr. Stauber. Thank you for your comments, Ms. Lyon. I want 
to thank all the witnesses for their testimony today. The Chair 
will now recognize Members for 5 minutes of questions, and I 
will recognize myself for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Harrell, the Twin Metals project in the 8th 
congressional district of Minnesota that I represent, it stands 
to generate substantial economic benefits and create thousands 
of jobs. Unfortunately, the Biden administration sided with the 
anti-mining and anti-jobs activists and unilaterally blocked 
this project from moving forward, refusing to examine the 
science. How can Congress provide greater certainty for 
domestic mining projects and ensure that critical mineral 
development is not derailed by shifting political priorities?
    Mr. Harrell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the question, and 
thank you for your leadership on these mining issues. I think 
it really drives forward the need to restore some regulatory 
predictability, and the Twin Metals project is a great example; 
the previous administration unilaterally took those lands out 
of play for consideration.
    We need to balance speed and safety. We need to do 
environmental analysis on these things. But when we have an 
immense resource that is available here it should be reviewed 
on its environmental merits, and we should ultimately get to a 
yes or no answer based on those merits. So, we have to restore 
more predictability. We can't have the regulatory environment 
hopping back and forth between administrations and transitions.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. And I will remind you 
that on that specific project the former Secretary of the 
Interior was asked by the Senate, if there were critical 
minerals, why she shut that down. And her words were, ``I 
didn't think there were critical minerals in there.'' It is the 
biggest copper nickel find in the world.
    I will just add that yesterday I reintroduced the Superior 
National Forest Restoration Act, which will reverse the Biden 
administration's actions to block this project and finally 
provide the legal and regulatory certainty for this important 
mine to move forward. This will prevent future anti-mining 
administrations from shutting it down.
    Ms. Lyon, how large of a role will reclamation play in 
Perpetua's plans to develop the Stibnite Gold Project?
    Ms. Lyon. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The vision of the 
Stibnite Gold Project was to go back to an abandoned mine site 
that had been mined for over a century, and to use the 
resources of redevelopment to improve the environmental 
conditions.
    Today, one ton of arsenic leaches into the river every 
single year. We can improve that. We can improve water quality 
through mining, getting Meadow Creek at Stibnite down to a 
reduction of 90 percent of arsenic. So, by looking at the 
challenges of Stibnite today, millions of tons of legacy 
tailings remain, water quality is impaired, the East Fork-South 
Fork of the Salmon River flows into an abandoned mining pit, 
and salmon are blocked from miles of habitat.
    Now, after 8 years of permitting, I can sit here and tell 
you that we will restore this site. We can improve water 
quality. We will improve and reconnect fish habitats so that 
once again salmon can reach up to 20 miles of habitat and 
overall be able to uplift the environmental conditions of 
Stibnite.
    Mr. Stauber. So, it is safe to say that, when all is said 
and done, you will leave the mine site in a better condition 
than it is today?
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Stauber. You know, you brought up the antimony in your 
testimony. I believe that the only reason at the eleventh hour 
that the Biden administration approved your mine was because 
the Chinese communist country decided not to export antimony, 
which they know we need. So, by politics they were forced. They 
weren't using the science and the facts. It was political in 
nature. Yet, we are here today.
    Before I yield, I want to ask a quick yes or no of each of 
our witnesses. Do you agree that domestic mineral extraction 
and production using the American workers, the American 
environmental standards, and the American labor standards is 
superior to overseas mining operations?
    Dr. Bazilian?
    Dr. Bazilian. It certainly is, you can never ask an 
academic yes-or-no question.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Stauber. Can you turn on your mic?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you very much.
    Mr. Stauber. There you go.
    Dr. Bazilian. Yes. In general, the standards in the United 
States are superior to many other countries, not all countries.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you.
    Mr. Harrell?
    Mr. Harrell. Yes. That is why U.S. leadership is so 
important.
    Mr. Stauber. Yes. Mr. Mulvaney?
    Dr. Mulvaney. I would echo Dr. Bazilian.
    Mr. Stauber. Ms. Lyon?
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, I will always bet on the American miner.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. I will now yield to the 
Ranking Member, Representative, oh, all right. OK, sorry. I 
will now yield to the Ranker of the Full Committee, Mr. Huffman 
from California for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Huffman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to the 
witnesses.
    We have been talking about the mining law of 1872, a law 
that was codified to reflect Gold-Rush-era values when we 
wanted to incentivize mining on public lands and promote 
settlement of the West. Of course, this ancient law, this 
anachronistic law holds no regard for the values that we that 
we have today, things like environmental responsibility and 
respect for Indigenous sovereignty and treaty rights. So, 
relying on this ancient law from 1872 to guide a modern, 
responsible domestic mining industry, all the things we say we 
want to do today is a little bit like asking President Ulysses 
S. Grant to come back and regulate artificial intelligence. It 
is tough to do.
    The mining law prioritizes mining over everything else on 
our public lands. It does nothing to protect the environment or 
to direct consultation with Tribes who are disproportionately 
impacted often by mining projects. And on top of all this, 
mining corporations are not expected to pay anything in 
royalties for using our Federal land. They can hold on to 
mining claims for as little as $10 per acre per year.
    So, Dr. Mulvaney, we say we want to evolve into a modern, 
responsible, sustainable mining industry to meet these 
challenges. That is a pretty generous framework from that 1872 
law. Do you know of any other industries that enjoy sweetheart 
terms like that?
    Dr. Mulvaney. No. In fact, on private lands or in State 
lands, for example in Utah, there are much higher royalties 
paid to the State of Utah on adjacent properties that would be 
mined on the Federal side. Oil and gas industries pay 16.67 
percent, I believe, for their leases. A solar development is 
going to pay somewhere between $1,000 and $5,000 an acre for 
public lands on an annual basis to lease that. So, it is a 
pretty good deal, I would say, for mining companies, including 
multi-national companies that have no base here in the United 
States.
    Mr. Huffman. Yes, I am just surprised because we say that 
we are looking for savings, we are looking to address the 
deficit and the debt. Elon Musk and his tech bro fake public 
officials are rummaging through databases and crashing through 
the doors of Federal agencies and trying to break things in 
search of efficiency and savings, but they haven't found their 
way to this 1872 law. And I am just wondering why that would 
be.
    I mean, if hardrock mining paid the same royalties as just 
oil and gas, what would that do to the U.S. Treasury? Yes.
    Dr. Mulvaney. Well, I think when we think about the legacy 
contamination from mining industries, you could use those 
revenues to help clean up and restore sites, so that is 
something that would otherwise come out of taxpayer pockets, 
so----
    Mr. Huffman. But if they paid the same royalties as oil and 
gas, we are talking about hundreds of millions, if not billions 
of dollars----
    Dr. Mulvaney. Yes.
    Mr. Huffman [continuing]. Into the United States Treasury, 
right, at a time when we say we are really looking under every 
sofa cushion for that kind of savings.
    So, I am hoping Elon and your tech bros, if you are 
listening, maybe find your way to the 1872 Mining Law and take 
a look at that instead of rummaging through our most sensitive 
personal taxpayer records and all other things that you really 
shouldn't have your hands on.
    Dr. Mulvaney, can you explain the environmental 
consequences of a mad rush to a mining free-for-all rather than 
a measured, thoughtful approach? What happens when you do it 
that way?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Well, what could happen is if you approve a 
bunch of mines hastily and they are all competing with each 
other, you might end up with a couple of bankrupt mines that 
start to develop sites and don't actually produce anything 
before they go bankrupt. So, it does take a measured response 
to figuring out which mines to develop, because every proposed 
mine shouldn't be developed. We should screen for impacts to 
Tribes and environmental impacts, and really try to choose the 
least conflicted sites that are also productive.
    Mr. Huffman. Thank you.
    And Dr. Bazilian, you at the Colorado School of Mines are 
doing a lot of important research into these areas, trying to 
help us find the right strategies, the right mix of 
technologies and minerals, and I just want to ask you about the 
funding that the Colorado School of Mines receives from the 
Inflation Reduction Act and the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, 
both of which are in the crosshairs right now of President 
Trump. He has issued Executive Orders purporting to freeze 
funding and has said he wants to claw it back.
    My understanding is programs like the Department of 
Energy's Loan Program Office funding have really been important 
to the research and the good work that you and your colleagues 
are doing. Can you tell us what this uncertainty means for your 
university and the critical mineral supply chains work that you 
are doing more broadly?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, Congressman. I am afraid I don't 
have that data for you. I am not aware of the quantum, nor the 
details of the funding we get from those specific mechanisms. 
Thank you.
    Mr. Huffman. Yes. You might want to take a look at that.
    And with that, I will yield back, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair will now 
recognize Representative Wittman for 5 minutes.
    Dr. Wittman. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
thank our witnesses for joining us today. I want to focus on 
what is happening with China.
    As you know, they are laser-focused on critical minerals 
and rare Earth elements, and we know that they have just now 
issued their third round of export controls. Exporters are now 
required to get CCP approval for a list of minerals now 
including tungsten, tellurium, bismuth, indium, molybdenum, and 
the list continues to grow. This is the third round of growing 
that list. And last week, the International Trade Commission 
told us what we already know, and that is China is doing 
everything they can to prevent an American graphite industry 
from emerging. Again, unfair trade practices, we see that.
    We also know too that they own 100 percent of the world's 
source of gallium, 98 percent of the world's source of 
germanium. They are using that for both their strategic and 
economic advantage. We know by the U.S. Geological Survey and 
their modeling that this could create up to a $3.4 billion hole 
in our GDP by these unfair trade practices. That is why I am 
very honored to lead the Critical Minerals Working Group for 
the Select Committee on the Strategic Competition between the 
United States and the Chinese Communist Party.
    This is a priority for our Nation to get back into not just 
the mining business, but also the refining and smelting 
business because China is also looking to dominate in those 
areas. So, I would like to go to our witnesses and, Mr. 
Harrell, I will start with you. Can you give me your thoughts 
about the things that we can do to combat these unfair trade 
practices?
    And I have a number of bills that we are putting in to try 
to create some structure there for U.S. producers and for U.S. 
consumers, especially in critical national security industries, 
to make sure there is an assured and reliable source of these 
critical minerals and rare Earth elements and to make sure, 
too, that they are operating within a free market, not in a 
government-restricted place that China wants the world market 
to operate within.
    Mr. Harrell. Thank you, Congressman, for the question. And 
thank you for your leadership on this critical minerals issue 
and national security issues as a whole.
    You are underscoring a critical vulnerability here. And if 
I had to oversimplify kind of three key points that I think we 
have to do, we are competing globally on price, and we struggle 
because of some of the labor issues with some of our 
competitors, Chinese subsidies and foreign subsidies. So, I 
would say we need to innovate here, we need to find ways to 
ultimately do these mining processes in a lower-cost way and in 
a more environmentally sustainable way.
    We need to drive down the cost of those mechanisms. We need 
to use innovative financing tools not to out subsidize China 
because we are never going to win that fight, but to catalyze 
some of these early investments in processing and in the 
infrastructure that we need.
    And then three, we need to use the world-class innovators 
here in the United States to ultimately make products that 
aren't going to need some of these things, as well. We need to 
innovate on batteries and energy storage that use Earth-
abundant resources, because in the end there is a wide variety 
of defense applications that we are going to need these 
critical minerals.
    Dr. Wittman. Very good. Dr. Mulvaney, I will go to you and 
just get your perspective. How do we combat these unfair trade 
practices? How does the United States create and sustain an 
industry that includes extraction, refining, and smelting?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Well, I think one of the reasons that China 
is able to compete is because they have had sustained 
partnership between their government and those developments. 
So, we probably need to strengthen partnerships with OEMs, for 
example, to make sure that automakers are also investing in 
mines or defense industries are also investing in mines. And 
for that to happen we need to have a stable policy environment 
and send signals to the market that, you know, we are planning 
on developing certain resources.
    Dr. Wittman. Very good, thank you. I want to emphasize too 
that by the United States buying minerals from these mines, 
remember, 16 of the 18 mines in Africa are owned by China, they 
use forced labor, and they destroy the environment. So, for us 
to sanctimoniously say that we are for all these things and yet 
we buy and we enable the Chinese to exploit human beings and 
destroy the environment is unbelievably, unbelievably 
unacceptable for the United States to do that.
    Ms. Lyon, I would like to get your perspective in the last 
30 seconds.
    Ms. Lyon. Absolutely, Congressman, and thank you. We need 
long-term strategy that enables the left hand of government to 
understand what the right hand needs.
    We also need to reconfirm on the short-term tools that we 
can utilize as an industry today to be competitive against that 
$57 billion China is using to support while it takes us 29 
years to get to the finish line. Those resources include things 
that helped us, like title three of the Defense Production Act 
or the U.S. Export-Import Bank's China and Transformational 
Export Programs. We need these programs today to be sustained 
in order to move forward.
    Dr. Wittman. Thank you, Ms. Lyon.
    Mr. Chairman, I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair recognizes the 
Ranking Member of this Committee, Representative Ansari, for 5 
minutes.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you all very much for the informative 
testimony.
    As we have discussed, mining can be part of the solution to 
our mineral needs, but it won't be the only solution. Recycling 
and reuse can help reduce the demand for mined materials and 
can make our supply chains more adaptive to demand, which, with 
technology, as we know, is always changing. So, my first 
question is for Dr. Mulvaney.
    Could you give us a ballpark for the quantity of minerals 
we are losing to landfills each year, compared to the amount of 
minerals that we take out of the ground?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Yes, and there are not a lot of studies of 
how much gets diverted into landfills, because it is not 
something we track, obviously. It is, you know, everybody is 
putting stuff into their garbage. But one study that is 
frequently cited by the USGS from 2004 found that in the United 
States, about 1.1 million tons of copper are landfilled 
annually, and that matches roughly about with how much is 
extracted in the United States on an annual basis.
    That is just copper. Other materials would have to be 
looked at. We don't have a lot of information, partly, I mean, 
you think about cell phones, right? People stockpile cell 
phones in their closets and drawers and things like that. So, 
everything that doesn't always make it into the landfill right 
away, but that is roughly the numbers that I could have.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you. And how much can recycling 
contribute to our mineral needs if systems are set up properly 
and products are actually designed to be recycled at the end of 
their lives?
    Dr. Mulvaney. The metals that I am most familiar with are 
the ones in batteries, and I see nickel, cobalt, and manganese 
numbers in the 10 to 20 to 30 percent amount.
    It requires, I think, having recycled content standards. 
So, in Europe they have recycled content standards for 
batteries, and that requires that purchasers of batteries are 
buying materials that have some recovered content. You have to 
send signals to waste industries to build the equipment to 
recover the materials, and having strong recycling laws is one 
way to do that.
    Ms. Ansari. And on that can you talk a little bit about the 
challenges that we face to get there, and how the Federal 
Government could possibly support these efforts?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Yes. Well, in Europe they have a 
comprehensive waste recovery law, and we do not have a Federal 
policy like that. We leave electronic waste, we regulate 
hazardous waste, we don't regulate all electrical equipment, 
and we leave e-waste management, which is where we are going to 
find a lot of these metals, to the States. And then we end up 
with a patchwork of laws that are a little different in every 
State.
    So, I think, you know, working through the Federal 
Government to make sure those laws are harmonized would be one 
pathway to ensuring that we have a robust and resilient 
recycling infrastructure.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you. I would also like to talk a little 
bit about water use. As I mentioned, communities in my district 
are on the front lines of the climate crisis, particularly when 
it comes to extreme heat and drought. They are an example of 
how access to clean water resources is just as important to 
security as anything else.
    In Phoenix, we have been able to reduce water demand even 
as our population and our economy have boomed. But we need 
long-term solutions, and all of the industries in the West need 
to be developed with these scarce water resources in mind. In 
Arizona, loopholes exempt mining from water use laws. And 
unfortunately, we are already hearing of examples of mines in 
places like our neighbors in Nevada that are running 
groundwater aquifers dry.
    So, my question, and this is also to you, Dr. Mulvaney, I 
know you have done research on lithium mining and its impact on 
water resources in particular. Can you tell us more about the 
ways that we can improve water use in mining?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Sorry, yes. I will submit for the record a 
paper we just published on lithium and water impacts across the 
life cycle.
    We have different new technologies emerging, direct lithium 
extraction, for example. There are still questions around what 
the water use looks like for that. But that is possibly a new 
generation of lithium extraction technologies where we might be 
able to pull minerals from brines. The Salton Sea is an area 
where I have been closely working with groups in the Lithium 
Valley.
    But also, just ensuring that mine development doesn't have 
impacts on groundwater. I think through the Thacker Pass 
controversy we saw a result that led to a mine that was 
ultimately developed that had less impact on groundwater than 
was initially proposed. So, having strong environmental review 
and looking at groundwater impacts in that review is one way 
that we can ensure that mines are developed appropriately.
    Ms. Ansari. Thank you so much.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you, Representative Ansari. The Chair 
now recognizes Representative Gosar from the great State of 
Arizona for 5 minutes.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. As a representative of 
Arizona, the Copper State, this hearing brings home this whole 
issue: mineral security is national security.
    Thankfully, President Trump understands the importance of 
domestic mineral production. For example, his Unleashing 
American Energy Executive Order calls on agency heads to 
identify actions that will impose undue burdens on the mining 
and processing of non-fuel minerals. Ending such burdens on 
mining is crucial to unlocking our domestic production 
potential. We need to make mining great again, we hope to 
ensure our country does not rely on our adversaries or 
countries with unacceptable environmental or labor conditions 
for important mineral necessity for energy and computers.
    Mineral security is also economic security. President Trump 
recognizes this and signed an Executive Order calling for the 
creation of a sovereign wealth fund. Tying natural assets, 
including minerals, to the economic security of American people 
is a wonderful idea. In fact, my legislation, H.R. 3004, the 
LASSO Act, gives the President the legislative format to 
achieve just this. I look forward to seeing what President 
Trump and this Congress can do to ensure mineral dominance for 
Americans.
    Mr. Harrell, you have firsthand knowledge of the mining 
aspects in Arizona. Can you talk to us about the Biden's abuse 
of abuse of the Antiquities Act to create a 1.6 million-acre 
national monument adjacent to the Grand Canyon to restrict 
uranium mining and economic development in our State, but also 
posing risks to the national security interests of our country 
at large?
    Mr. Harrell. Thank you for the question, Congressman Gosar, 
yes.
    Again, as we are talking about these unilateral withdrawals 
that are done administratively and millions of acres, like, 
certainly that tool was envisioned to be used for very small 
areas, right? And it has been abused over years by, frankly, 
Republican and Democratic administrations. In the end, we want 
to balance speed and safety on environmental reviews, but we 
want everyone to be given a fair shake here.
    So, we have acute uranium production needs. There is global 
consensus that we are going to need to as much as 3X nuclear to 
meet energy and climate goals. U.S. innovators are leaning 
forward, and we are significantly reliant on Russian nuclear 
fuel products. And we should be mining it here, we should be 
enriching it here, and we should ultimately be fabricating fuel 
in this country.
    So, we need to evaluate these sites by a case-by-case 
basis, see if they merit a yes or a no. And sometimes we will 
ultimately land on no. But this system far too often is a 
default now.
    Dr. Gosar. So, let me ask you a quick question. 
Understanding the extraction of uranium may take some education 
again, because you have breccia pipes up in northern Arizona 
that are very concentrated. They are also a sunken collapsed 
matrix.
    My dad was a geologist from the Colorado School of Mines, 
so I am telling you I used to hate rocks, now I love rocks.
    [Laughter.]
    Dr. Gosar. But what it basically does is every time it 
rains, every time it blows, you get exposure to these breccia 
pipes. But when you take them out, they are very concentric. 
They are about 20 to 40 acres. They take out that breccia pipe, 
and a lot of times they have these caliche clays that are 
formed, these subsurface barriers for water permeation. So, 
what you are actually getting is increased permeation, and you 
are getting rid of the long-standing exposure. Would you agree 
with that?
    Mr. Harrell. Yes, I have toured multiple of these sites 
across this country, in the United States, including in 
northern Arizona, and they use very innovative processes to 
remove this in an environmentally sustainable way. And you can 
do it in a way that protects and maybe even improves risks to 
groundwater impact.
    Dr. Gosar. So, you are also familiar with Resolution 
Copper. Now, who is right on this? You know, the San Carlos say 
that these are their traditional religious grounds, but yet, 
you have a tribal historian, who has no purview to anything 
else other than the records, saying this was never a religious 
area. What gives here?
    Mr. Harrell. Congress is right. In 2014, legislation was 
signed into law, due to your leadership and this Committee's 
leadership, to enact a land exchange to enable this project 
moving forward. It was signed into law by President Obama. And 
we are still, over 10 years later, debating and driving towards 
a 2030 production date.
    Dr. Gosar. Are you----
    Mr. Harrell. This project has been evaluated extensively, 
and it has been yo-yoed back and forth based on political 
transitions and positions.
    Dr. Gosar. How many mining companies do you think could 
actually afford the two billion-plus dollars they have put into 
reclaiming that mine site there in Superior?
    Mr. Harrell. Very few. And Resolution has taken--you know, 
I have been at that site five-plus times. They have submitted a 
significant long-term plan on how they are going to reclaim 
that site, produce what is one of the largest copper reserves 
in the entire world, could meet 25 percent of our domestic 
demand, and revitalize a community that is in the heart of 
copper country, close to significant mining infrastructure, and 
ultimately deliver results that I think would be good for our 
national security, good for the Arizona economy, good for the 
national economy.
    Dr. Gosar. OK, I got one last question. Sorry about this 
one, but it is very quick.
    All of you, can you tell me why our Constitution is 
antiquated at almost 250 years of age? Is it antiquated, Dr. 
Bazilian?
    Dr. Bazilian. Sorry, Congressman, you mean the----
    Dr. Gosar. U.S. Constitution.
    Dr. Bazilian. The Constitution.
    Dr. Gosar. Is almost 250 years old. We are going to 
celebrate that very quickly in the next 2 years. Is it 
antiquated?
    Dr. Bazilian. Geez, Congressman, I am not a specialist on 
constitutional law.
    Dr. Gosar. Mr. Harrell?
    Dr. Bazilian. Sorry.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Harrell. I think we uphold the Constitution.
    Dr. Gosar. Yes. How about you, Doctor?
    Dr. Mulvaney. I am going to echo Dr. Bazilian again.
    Dr. Gosar. This is an easy one.
    Ms. Lyon?
    Ms. Lyon. And I am not an expert. But, sir, there are 
elements of our Constitution that we are here to uphold.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you very much, I appreciate it.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much, Dr. Gosar. The Chair now 
recognizes Representative Rivas from the great State of 
California for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Rivas. Thank you, Chair Stauber and, you know, Ranking 
Member Ansari.
    One of my biggest priorities in Congress, I am a new Member 
from California, is environmental justice, elevating 
communities that often don't have a voice in our Federal 
Government. My district is in Los Angeles, in the San Fernando 
Valley. It is an area that has, unfortunately, had a lot of 
environmental injustices impacted our communities in the past 
and present due to, you know, poor land use decisions by all 
levels of government. And it is kind of the genesis for me to 
fight for these issues and to be that voice on Natural 
Resources Committee. And I did that as a State legislator in 
California, and I will continue to do that here in Congress.
    You know, we are talking about developing a modern mining 
industry in our country, and I strongly urge our colleagues to 
consider environmental justice in decision-making, especially 
for tribal communities. You know, mining has a long and well-
documented history of committing environmental and human rights 
injustices across the globe, including in the United States, 
especially for Indigenous people.
    Now, you know, I know the mining industry is different than 
it was back then, you know, years ago. But unfortunately, our 
mining laws have not changed, and Indigenous communities will 
continue to bear the brunt of expanded mining without major 
reforms. So, my question is for Dr. Mulvaney.
    Considering this history of hardrock mining and negative 
effects on environmental tribal lands, what policies or actions 
do you recommend Congress take to rebuild our relationships 
with Tribes and address a clean energy future?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Very briefly, strengthening consultation, 
early consultation, is a key strategy for that. And the most 
recent pre-planning initiative from the Department of the 
Interior that came out in November or December last year, I 
think, is a step in the right direction. That is where people 
could understand when a site is sacred and maybe a site 
shouldn't be developed.
    We had a project down in Southern California, a gold mine 
that the Quechan thought was on, you know, it doesn't matter 
how sustainable your mining practice is if it is on a site that 
somebody wants, or thinks is wilderness, or is a sacred site. 
And through the process of, you know, thinking through that 
mine, they ended up not building that mine. That mine is no 
longer going to be developed, and it is nice to know that it is 
not competing against a more sustainable gold mine somewhere 
else in the United States. So, I think that that is an area 
that we could strengthen, prior consultation early.
    Ms. Rivas. OK. Yes, thank you. Thank you for that insight 
as we look forward to building this economy. Thank you.
    [Pause.]
    Ms. Rivas. I yield back my time.
    Dr. Gosar [presiding]. I thank the gentlewoman, and the 
gentleman from Idaho, Mr. Fulcher, is now recognized.
    Mr. Fulcher. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is great to have 
an Idahoan on the panel today.
    Mckinsey, thank you for being here and for your hard work 
in advancing the permitting process for the Stibnite mine in 
Idaho. Did I understand correctly that that was an 18-year 
process from start to finish?
    Ms. Lyon. Congressman, yes, it was.
    Mr. Fulcher. Eighteen years. And Mr. Chairman, I was going 
to point out that that probably meant that Congressman Huffman 
was still in grade school during that process, but he is not 
here to hear me say that. So, I guess I won't point it out.
    Anyway, the Stibnite Mine project is the only source of 
mined antimony in the United States, critical for defense, 
energy storage, and technology. And I am a visual learner. So, 
thanks to our friends at Stibnite, this is what it looks like, 
Mr. Chairman.
    [Slide.]
    Mr. Fulcher. This is the pre-processed form, but this is an 
example of what we are going after and what is so critical 
here. The project is even more critical as China, which 
currently dominates global antimony production, has 
increasingly restricted exports of this mineral, further 
highlighting the need for domestic supply.
    So, I am proud that Perpetua in Idaho is leading the way in 
securing this resource for our Nation. In fact, Idaho resources 
play a key role in securing our Nation's future, and I will 
continue to advocate for responsible mining projects like 
Stibnite that bring lasting benefits to our State and country.
    With that, I want to get to a question for Ms. Lyon, but 
China banned the export of antimony just this Tuesday, and they 
have expanded their export controls over additional forms of 
tungsten and other critical minerals. I was just going to ask 
Ms. Lyon if I understand the history correctly.
    There was some tungsten activity in this project once upon 
a time. Can you talk about the possibility of restarting that 
resource extraction at the Stibnite project?
    Ms. Lyon. Absolutely. And Congressman, thank you for the 
support of our project.
    Historically, as I mentioned, Stibnite produced 90 percent 
of the antimony and 50 percent of the tungsten used in World 
War II. As we look at redeveloping the site we have been able 
to identify, we know we have 148 million pounds of antimony 
remaining. We know that because it is a byproduct of gold 
production. We are also fairly confident and we see in our 
mineralization existing tungsten. But we have not gone back to 
fully flush out the full mineral resource that could be 
remaining at Stibnite today. But we are always happy to do that 
investigation and continue to have Idaho help play a role in 
our national security.
    Mr. Fulcher. Great, thank you for that. A question for Mr. 
Bazilian, and this has to do with the various lists of critical 
minerals.
    But the Wall Street Journal reported earlier this week 
China has added five additional critical minerals subject to 
export restrictions. Tungsten is one. Tellurium, bismuth, 
molybdenum, and indium are others. This follows the ban on 
gallium and germanium exports just in December. So, these are 
all essential for electronics, the energy sector, national 
defense.
    The U.S. Geological Survey identifies non-fuel minerals 
vital to our economy and national security, that agencies like 
the Department of Energy and Defense Logistics also maintain 
separate lists for energy and defense. Is there an opportunity 
for some better coordination there, Mr. Bazilian?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you very much, Congressman. Yes, I 
think it is an important question.
    It is a little bit wonky for politics typically, but the 
way we calculate mineral criticality, we have three 
unclassified lists in the United States: one from the USGS, one 
from the Department of Energy, and one through the Department 
of Defense. Only the Department of Defense list includes not 
just ores but chemicals and materials. And that is an important 
way we can help refine the other lists.
    And the other innovation that DOD does is that they look 
forward. The other lists are snapshots of a current point in 
time.
    I will just add that the way the United States calculates 
mineral criticality is not dissimilar to some other 
jurisdictions like European Union or a recent UK list, but it 
is fundamentally different than how Canada and Australia looks 
at mineral criticality. So, I think there is considerable more 
sophistication that could be brought to these calculations, and 
that would help inform decisions.
    Mr. Fulcher. Great. Thank you for that.
    Moving quickly because I am about out of time, Mr. Harrell, 
just a quick comment for you having to do with judicial review, 
and I will abbreviate the question by saying, can some judicial 
review reform help prevent unnecessary litigation that delays 
these projects for, like, 18 years that Ms. Lyon was talking 
about? Are there opportunities there?
    Mr. Harrell. Absolutely. I think it is one of the single 
largest opportunities here. We want to ensure that communities 
have a chance to use the legal system. But the way it is 
structured today, it is being completely abused and ultimately 
is a major source of these significant decades-long delays.
    Mr. Fulcher. Thank you.
    Mr. Chairman, I have a lot more questions, but I will 
submit those in writing because I am out of time.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber [presiding]. Thank you, Representative Fulcher. 
The Chair now recognizes Mr. Magaziner from Rhode Island for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Magaziner. Thank you, Chair.
    I am glad that my colleagues on both sides of the aisle and 
the witnesses today all agree on the importance of securing 
critical mineral supply chains. And Mr. Bazilian, you mentioned 
in your testimony that ``working with allies will be an 
indispensable part of our success in creating robust, secure, 
and resilient supply chains.'' This is an absolutely vital 
point.
    The United States must maintain good relationships, 
particularly with the developing world, so that we can access 
the critical minerals that we need to grow America's economy 
and maintain a high standard of living. This is one of the many 
reasons why it is wrong and self-defeating for Donald Trump and 
Elon Musk to be shredding our relationships with mineral-rich 
countries around the world, particularly the developing world.
    Here are the facts. Less than 1 percent of all cobalt 
reserves are in the United States. Cobalt, of course, is used 
to make batteries and cell phones, laptops and cars. More than 
50 percent of the world's cobalt is in Africa.
    The world's largest copper reserves are in South America.
    The United States has only one-tenth of 1 percent of the 
world's nickel reserves, nickel, of course, used primarily to 
make steel. Indonesia and Brazil have nearly half of the 
world's nickel.
    Rare Earth minerals are used in semiconductors and advanced 
medical equipment and consumer electronics. The U.S. has less 
than 1 percent of the world's rare Earth mineral reserves. And 
in order to have a stable supply, we need strong relationships 
with countries like India and Brazil and Tanzania and South 
Africa. So, we need these relationships.
    But what have Donald Trump and Elon Musk done over the last 
2 weeks? They have shut down USAID, our most important agency 
for building goodwill in the developing world. All across the 
developing world right now, people are waking up to see their 
health clinics shut down, access to medicine for their children 
cut off, access to food cut off, American-supported 
infrastructure projects canceled, all because Donald Trump and 
the richest man in the world are illegally and stupidly 
shredding our relationships with the very countries we need as 
partners to access these minerals, to say nothing of the 
cruelty of the richest man in the world gleefully taking food 
away from hungry children and medicine away from the sick. But 
that is another story.
    And guess who is stepping in, ready to save the day? China, 
China's Belt and Road Initiative. Our greatest competitor, 
China, will be happy to step into the void that Trump and Musk 
are creating. But China's help will come with a price. So, 
congratulations, Donald and Elon. In the global race to secure 
rare Earth minerals, most of which are in the developing world, 
you have surrendered the battlefield to our greatest adversary.
    And of course, there is another big country with vast 
reserves of critical minerals that I haven't mentioned yet. In 
fact, it is the country that today the U.S. imports the most 
minerals from: Canada. Canada, which the stable genius has 
decided to start a trade war with, aluminum, copper, cobalt, 
graphite and more, Canada has become a vital supply of these 
critical minerals to the United States. Now, don't worry, 
Donald Trump only wants to tax these critical minerals at 10 
percent at the border instead of 25 percent. Mexico also 
supplies critical minerals, by the way.
    Now, look, I know we are here today to talk about domestic 
mining, and that is important. And it is a good conversation to 
have. But the fact remains that the vast majority of reserves 
of critical minerals lie outside the United States, and no 
amount of domestic mining can change that. So, Donald Trump and 
Elon Musk need to stop doing everything that they can to make 
it harder for us to access those minerals and easier for our 
adversaries to do so.
    Dr. Mulvaney, does the U.S. have enough critical mineral 
reserves that we don't need to rely on partnerships with other 
countries?
    Dr. Mulvaney. No.
    Mr. Magaziner. And are other countries going to be more 
likely to give us access to critical minerals when we are 
pulling food and medicine and other assistance away from them?
    Dr. Mulvaney. I can't speak to that necessarily, but your 
intimation sounds like it might be right.
    Mr. Magaziner. And is it wise for us to be posing new taxes 
on the importation of critical minerals from places like Canada 
and Mexico?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Tariffs in general are not very helpful for 
American consumers.
    Mr. Magaziner. All right.
    Dr. Mulvaney. Or business----
    Mr. Magaziner. I just want everyone to keep in mind the 
context that we are operating in here.
    Thank you very much, and I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair now recognizes 
the full Committee Chair, Representative Westerman.
    Mr. Westerman. Thank you, Chairman Stauber. And again, 
thank you to the witnesses for being here today.
    Dr. Bazilian, my undergraduate degree is in engineering.
    And Dr. Mulvaney, my graduate degree is in forestry, which 
was kind of the original environmental study, so I feel a 
little bit of kinship here, but also probably think in a 
different way than a lot of people because I like to make 
things into outlines, and categorize stuff, and go to work on 
it, kind of the engineering method of solving a problem.
    So, as I look at America's mineral future, if I was going 
to say here are the goals that I have for America's mineral 
future, I wrote three of them down: reduce dependence on 
Chinese and other adversarial suppliers; the next one would be 
attract investments in domestic mining, refining, recycling, 
and manufacturing; and the third big goal would be to lead the 
world in conservation, innovation, workers' health and safety, 
and so on. So, that would be, like, my big goals for America's 
mining future.
    But then, you know, going through that kind of scientific 
method, I would say, OK, what are the specific objectives to 
achieve those three main goals, and maybe we could add more to 
the goals or debate what they should be. But the one objective 
I see that addresses all three of those things would be to 
streamline our existing permitting process to promote rapid 
development of mining, refining, recycling, and manufacturing 
of domestic minerals, and to do that in a way that doesn't wipe 
out environmental sideboards, but actually incorporates maybe 
new ways to make those environmental sideboards better.
    Now, I have a lot of other ideas, but what I want to hear 
are your ideas on what other specific objectives should we put 
on the list, because at some point somebody has to write a 
piece of legislation and try to get it passed through the House 
and through the Senate and get it on the President's desk.
    Dr. Bazilian, what specific objective should we work 
towards?
    Dr. Bazilian. I think your objectives make a lot of sense, 
Congressman.
    You know, as some other colleagues have said here, it is 
very important to look at trade-offs and be explicit about the 
costs and benefits and the impacts. So, I think keeping that in 
mind is an important one.
    Certainly, reducing our import dependence is important, but 
at the same time I think the other side of the coin there is 
ensuring that our portfolio of partners across supply chains is 
robust and resilient. And that is very important, as----
    Mr. Westerman. So, maybe like a Western Hemisphere alliance 
or Western civilization alliance, where we work with our 
partners who maybe have a lot of these resources in more 
abundance than we do to make sure that we have strong supply 
chains?
    Dr. Bazilian. I think that is important. You know, when we 
think about our allies in this, the first department that 
recognizes the need to work with allies is the Department of 
Defense. I think we, under the first Trump presidency we had 
something called ERGI, the Energy Resource Governance 
Initiative, at the State Department that was meant to do 
exactly what you just said. Under the Biden administration it 
morphed into something called the Mineral Security Partnership, 
and I imagine both of those are not dissimilar, in fact.
    Mr. Westerman. So, I want to get some input from the other 
panelists.
    You can go, Mr. Harrell.
    Mr. Harrell. Yes, absolutely. I think you sum it up very 
well, four key things: How do we invest and mine and process 
more here in the U.S.; how do we maximize the resources we have 
here today, so reuse and recycling; how do we innovate on the 
products that need these materials; and fourth, how do we 
partner with allies because there are inherent limitations of 
what is under our feet.
    Mr. Westerman. Mr. Mulvaney.
    Dr. Mulvaney. That sounds like a great list. I will add a 
small piece here which is characterizing some of our waste 
resources.
    One of the things I understand that precludes us from 
developing tailings, for example, at mine sites is just not 
understanding what is there. So, having Federal support to try 
to characterize what is at waste sites, what is at 
intentionally reclaimed mines----
    Mr. Westerman. So, more research and development on----
    Dr. Mulvaney. Yes, or just characterization of what 
resources we actually have.
    Mr. Westerman. All right. Ms. Lyon?
    Ms. Lyon. Chairman, I think in the long term our experience 
is that our projects are complicated. We have 12 State and 
Federal environmental agencies around the table in the 
permitting process for the Stibnite Gold Project. We need a 
forum by which those agencies can come together and not just 
identify problems, but find solutions. Commerce, State, the 
Department of Defense, and the Department of Energy also need 
to be able to be at that table to signal strategic need in 
balancing the environmental interests of this country, as well.
    Mr. Westerman. That would all fall under streamlining, 
permitting.
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Westerman. Right. If you will bear with me 1 second, 
Mr. Chair, I heard former Secretary Zinke, our colleague. He 
made an analogy of a salmon and a trout swimming up a river 
that is regulated, the salmon by NOAA, the trout by U.S. Fish 
and Wildlife, with a forest managed by the Forest Service and 
other land managed by the BLM on a river that has a Corps of 
Engineers dam and maybe a Bureau of Reclamation. And you start 
looking at all of the overlap, it is amazing we are able to get 
anything done. So, I think that has to be an important part of 
streamlining.
    I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you very much. The Chair now recognizes 
Representative Stansbury for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Stansbury. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, both our Chairmen, 
and also our new Ranking Member. It is wonderful to be here 
today.
    Thank you all so much for being here. I was just reviewing 
your testimony. I am sorry I wasn't here in person at the 
beginning of it.
    As some of you may know, I actually used to work at the 
Office of Management and Budget, and I did the budget for USGS, 
and I was actually part of the interagency team within the 
Executive Office of the President that convened for many years 
to try to untangle the critical minerals supply chain issues. 
So, I appreciate the comments that were just made. We need an 
all-of-the-above, you know, coordinated strategy across all of 
our Federal agencies working with the private sector, working 
with Tribes and environmental groups.
    But, you know, unfortunately, what we see often happen here 
in Congress is these issues get highly politicized and then 
deployed for the purpose of supporting an ad hoc piece of 
legislation here, an ad hoc piece of legislation there. And I 
do think, for the purposes of this hearing, and I know many of 
you have touched on this in your testimony, it is important 
that this not just become a conversation to drive legislation 
that is just going to, you know, provide unfettered access to 
sensitive lands and completely undermine our environmental 
laws.
    You know, looking at the testimony both for Mr. Bazilian as 
well as Mr. Mulvaney, Dr. Mulvaney, I apologize, Doctors, you 
know, what I am struck by reading both of your testimonies, 
which I think is fully concurrent with the work that has been 
done for many years in this sector, is, No. 1, identifying, I 
mean, there is just a basic geologic reality about the Earth's 
crust, which is that we need hundreds of different minerals, 
and they are not all in the United States. In fact, some of the 
largest supplies of critical minerals are in Central Asia, they 
are in Africa. They just don't exist here on the North American 
continent, but they have become very important to the supply 
chain and to manufacturing in the United States.
    So, to that point which I think Mr. Magaziner was touching 
on, we will have to continue to engage in international 
relationships. Europe is also very much struggling with these 
issues, especially since China has been stockpiling minerals 
that are not only on the Asian continent, but also using their 
diplomatic pressures to buy up mines throughout the world and 
to create partnerships. So, we have to be conscious that part 
of the solution here is actually diplomatic.
    And it is true that we have to continue to have diplomatic 
relationships with these countries, and the undermining of 
international affairs that folks may not realize is that part 
of how we have diplomatic relationships with other parts of the 
world is that we provide aid to them, and that is actually 
important to the critical supply chain. But that is only one 
piece of the equation.
    You know, we do need to increase domestic mining, but only 
in places where it is appropriate, where the minerals actually 
can be mined in a safe manner, where it is not going to 
actually destroy the aquifer, and in places that are not going 
to undermine tribal sovereignty and sacred cultural places. And 
you know, there are a number of really important places that 
have been set aside especially during the last administration.
    And I know, Mr. Chairman, we will very much disagree on 
this because I know you are very passionate about this, but 
there are places like the Boundary Waters, like Resolution 
Copper's desire to mine in a tribal sacred site that has for 
thousands of years been a place where the Apache people have 
gone for ceremonies that, yes, there may be great geologic 
deposits there, yes, they may be able to provide for supply 
chain certainty for the United States, but there are other 
reasons and other values that we have about these places that 
make it such that we don't want to mine there.
    And I think that we have to not lose sight of that because 
once you especially have, like, a vast surface mining 
operation, it will never be the same again. So, we have to be 
really thoughtful about how we approach this issue and not 
undermine tribal sovereignty, not undermine, you know, the 
sacred places that are important to our communities, and to do 
it in a smart and really coordinated manner.
    I am short on time, but I think I just wanted to say that I 
appreciate you all coming in here, and I hope that this 
testimony is not used as a foil to undermine environmental laws 
and tribal sovereignty. So, thank you.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you. The Chair now recognizes 
Representative Tiffany for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Tiffany. Mr. Chairman, we just heard the strategy from 
the other side: Not in my backyard. Get it someplace else. That 
is what we are going to do here in the United States of 
America. What a strategy for national security, for economic 
security, for job security.
    Dr. Mulvaney, name----
    Ms. Stansbury. Mr. Tiffany, would you yield?
    Mr. Tiffany. Name a location or two, one or two, where we 
should build----
    Ms. Stansbury. Mr. Tiffany?
    Mr. Tiffany [continuing]. A mine in the United States of 
America?
    Mr. Stauber. Would the gentleman----
    Ms. Stansbury. Would the gentleman yield?
    Mr. Stauber. The gentleman stop.
    Ma'am?
    Mr. Tiffany. No, I am not going to yield. I only have 5 
minutes, Mr. Chairman. That is all you are giving me.
    Mr. Stauber. Go ahead, Representative Tiffany.
    Ms. Stansbury. OK.
    Mr. Tiffany. Dr. Mulvaney, where could we build a mine in 
the United States right now, in your mind? Where could we build 
one real soon?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Choosing a site for a mine is a complicated 
and very place-based process. So, I hesitate to say, because I 
don't want to speak for other communities. I lived next to a 
mine for 10 years.
    Mr. Tiffany. Sure, thank you for that answer.
    We had the former head of the U.S. Forest Service here, Mr. 
Chairman, just a couple of years ago, and he was fighting the 
project up in northern Minnesota. And I posed the same question 
to him. He said, ``Well, we can't do it near water, we can't do 
it,'' and I said, well, how about Resolution Copper in Arizona, 
some place where it is dry? ``Well, I don't know about that, 
either.''
    Where can we build a mine here in the United States of 
America? Give me a deposit. Name an example right now, Dr. 
Mulvaney.
    Dr. Mulvaney. We have built, we have permitted a bunch of 
mines in the last year in Nevada. So, not-in-my-backyard is not 
happening everywhere. I understand that there are, and I have 
learned through this Committee from previous testimony, the 
Boundary Waters and the Resolution Copper projects are 
extremely contentious.
    Mr. Tiffany. You----
    Dr. Mulvaney. I would say they are very unique in terms of 
their issues.
    Mr. Tiffany. I am going to change course here a little bit. 
You cite the 1872 law, and you say it is a disaster, and we 
should get to the modern era, Ulysses S. Grant and all the 
rest. Don't all the States have modern mining laws?
    Are you familiar with Wisconsin's mining law that I rewrote 
a decade ago?
    Dr. Mulvaney. No, I am not, but the 1872 law governs mining 
on public lands specifically. So, State law doesn't supersede 
the Federal law in this case.
    Mr. Tiffany. If you built a mine on Federal land in the 
State of Wisconsin, wouldn't you also have to comply with the 
State requirements?
    Dr. Mulvaney. I think we have heard many times there are 
many, many agencies at multiple levels involved in all of these 
things, and that is what makes it complicated.
    Mr. Tiffany. That is exactly right, and isn't it a red 
herring on your part to cite this 1872 law, when you know very 
well there are modern mining laws that have been passed in 
States like Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, that there are 
modern mining laws that are in place that are protective of the 
public? Don't you think it is a bit duplicitous to not give 
some context and say, yes, but there are other requirements in 
place?
    Ms. Lyon, I suspect Idaho has a comprehensive mining law. 
Am I correct?
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, and we are still subject to the Clean Water 
Act, the Clean Air Act, the Endangered Species Act, and 
financial assurance.
    Mr. Tiffany. You cited the sage grouse habitat, Dr. 
Mulvaney. There is a massive solar site going up in central 
Wisconsin that conservationists are concerned about as a result 
of the grouse. Should they be building that massive solar site 
there when you have conservationists that are very concerned 
about it?
    Dr. Mulvaney. I will ask a student whose dissertation 
committee I am on who is studying an area right around 
Wisconsin, a University of Wisconsin student. So, I will ask 
them and put it in the record.
    But solar farms are also controversial, and they face the 
same issues. If the landscape is sacred, if it is important it 
is going to face the same kind of opposition.
    Mr. Tiffany. Mr. Chairman, the term was just used, ``solar 
farms.'' They are not farms. They are industrial sites. They 
are producing electricity. Anyone that uses the term ``farm,'' 
that is incorrect, they are not growing anything unless you say 
electricity is grown.
    Are you familiar with the Ivanpah project in California?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Yes, I camped on that site before it was 
built. I have studied that site for 15 years.
    Mr. Tiffany. What just happened to the Ivanpah project?
    Dr. Mulvaney. First of all, the Ivanpah project is a 
concentrated solar farm that also burns natural gas. It burns 
so much natural gas that it has to participate in California's 
cap and trade program.
    Mr. Tiffany. Is the Ivanpah operating currently?
    Dr. Mulvaney. That project has always had problems. That 
project was----
    Mr. Tiffany. Is it correct, Dr. Mulvaney, that the project 
went broke? How many billions of dollars went from the----
    Dr. Mulvaney. They didn't----
    Mr. Tiffany [continuing]. American taxpayer to the Ivanpah 
project?
    Dr. Mulvaney. If I recall, it is in my book, ``Solar 
Power''--$1.8 billion or so.
    Mr. Tiffany. Unfortunately, my time has run out. Yes, it 
failed.
    Dr. Mulvaney. I would love to talk more at some point, Mr. 
Tiffany.
    Mr. Tiffany. For the record, I would ask unanimous consent, 
Mr. Chairman, to introduce into the record ``Net Zero is a Non-
Starter Without More Minerals and Better Permitting,'' by Sarah 
Montalbano.
    Mr. Stauber. Without objection.

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    Mr. Tiffany. And I yield back.
    Ms. Ansari. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask for unanimous 
consent to enter into the record this fact sheet from the 
Biden-Harris Administration on critical minerals that outlines 
the important investments they made and that, through the 
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law and the Inflation Reduction Act, 
one thing we can all do to advance critical minerals is to 
acknowledge the Article I constitutional authority of Congress 
and get these investments flowing again.
    Mr. Stauber. Without objection.

    [The information follows:]
    FACT SHEET: Biden-Harris Administration Takes Further Action to 
          Strengthen and Secure Critical Mineral Supply Chains

Department of Energy Battery Supply Chain Awards Build on Four Years of 
        Whole-
of-Government Effort to Increase Domestic and Allied Supply of Critical 
        Minerals

    Critical minerals are essential building blocks of the modern 
economy and our energy security, from clean energy technologies like 
high-capacity batteries and wind turbines to semiconductors, advanced 
defense systems, and consumer electronics. Over the past several 
decades, China has cornered the market for processing and refining of 
key critical minerals, leaving the U.S. and our allies and partners 
vulnerable to supply chain shocks and undermining economic and national 
security. As the world builds a clean energy economy, demand for 
critical minerals is projected to grow exponentially.
    President Biden recognized this challenge and took immediate 
action. In his first weeks in office, he signed Executive Order 14017, 
America's Supply Chains, which mandated a 100-day review of U.S. 
critical mineral supply chains. Following the report's recommendations, 
the Biden-Harris Administration has mobilized historic resources to 
strengthen domestic critical minerals supply chains, from mining to 
manufacturing to recycling. These investments are strengthening U.S. 
energy and national security; boosting American manufacturing; creating 
good-paying and union jobs in mining, construction, and manufacturing; 
and reducing reliance on unreliable supply chains.
    Since President Biden took office, companies have announced more 
than $120 billion in investments in battery and critical mineral supply 
chains. Through the Biden-Harris Administration's Investing in America 
agenda, the Department of Energy, the Department of Defense, the 
Department of the Treasury, and the Department of Commerce are 
supporting the domestic battery and critical mineral supply chain 
through grants, loans, and allocated tax credits. That investment has 
created new jobs: over 250,000 new American energy jobs were added last 
year--with clean energy jobs growing twice as fast as the rest of the 
sector.
    This investment has also dramatically expanded the U.S. critical 
minerals industrial base and reduced reliance on foreign and unreliable 
supply chains. In 2021, the U.S. had enough operating and announced 
battery manufacturing capacity to power 500,000 electric vehicles--
today, announced battery gigafactories will power 10 million electric 
vehicles, enough to meet domestic demand by 2030. In 2021, U.S. lithium 
producers met just 5 percent of global demand. Thanks to investments in 
processing and manufacturing, the US is not just keeping pace with the 
fivefold increase in lithium demand but is on track to outpace it: the 
U.S. is set to supply more than one-fifth of global demand outside of 
China by 2030.
    After years of ceding ground to China , we are now winning the 
competition for the 21st Century, protecting our industrial base and 
creating good jobs, and strengthening our energy and national security 
thanks to the Biden-Harris Administration's actions to secure critical 
mineral supply chains.
Battery: Material Processing and Manufacturing
    Today, the Department of Energy is announcing over $3 billion 
across 25 projects through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law to 
extract, process, and recycle critical minerals and materials and 
manufacture key battery components, as well as support next-generation 
battery manufacturing. Combined with the first round of battery 
material processing and manufacturing awards, funding from this program 
will generate $16 billion in public and private sector investment 
throughout the entire battery supply chain. Project details can be 
found here.

    This announcement supports a whole-of-government effort to build an 
end-to-end domestic supply chain for electric vehicle and grid storage 
batteries:

     The Department of the Treasury allocated $800 million 
            through the first round of allocations under the Inflation 
            Reduction Act Section 48C Qualifying Advanced Energy 
            Project Tax Credit for critical mineral processing, 
            refining and recycling, including for lithium-ion battery 
            recycling, battery material processing, and battery 
            component manufacturing.

     The Department of Energy Loan Program Office closed a loan 
            of $2.5 billion to Ultium Cells and issued a conditional 
            commitment of $9.2 billion to BlueOval SK, joint ventures 
            between General Motors and LG Energy and Ford and SK 
            respectively, for six total battery manufacturing 
            facilities with more than 200 gigawatt hours of capacity, 
            enough to power more than 2 million EVs.

     The Loan Program Office has also issued a $2 billion 
            conditional commitment to Redwood Materials for a first-of-
            its-kind battery material manufacturing and recycling 
            project in Nevada to produce critical battery components 
            that are currently dominated by China using recycled 
            batteries and material.

     The Loan Program Office issued a $102 million loan to 
            Syrah Technologies to produce graphite-based active anode 
            material for EV batteries in Louisiana. Syrah processes 
            natural graphite from its Balama, Mozambique mine, which 
            received conditional commitment of up to $150 million in 
            financing from the U.S. International Development Finance 
            Corporation to support the full graphite supply chain.

     The Department of Commerce awarded $21 million to the 
            Nevada Tech Hub, led by the University of Reno, Nevada, to 
            build a globally competitive full lithium supply chain and 
            innovation cluster from extraction through recycling, 
            building on the lithium assets, workforce, and research 
            institutions in the area.

     In May, President Biden directed his U.S. Trade 
            Representative to raise tariffs on imported EV and grid 
            storage batteries from China, as well as certain critical 
            minerals, to counter China's unfair trade practices, which 
            will defend U.S. manufacturers from being undercut by 
            artificially cheap products.

Supporting Responsible Domestic Mining
    To meet the nation's climate, infrastructure, and global 
competitiveness goals, the U.S. must expand and accelerate responsible 
domestic production of critical minerals in a manner that upholds 
strong environmental, labor, safety, Tribal consultation, and community 
engagement standards. By responsibly permitting, managing operations, 
and remediating mines, the U.S. can set a global standard for 
responsible mineral development and create good-paying jobs in 
communities across the country:

     The Department of Energy Loan Programs Office issued a 
            $2.26 billion conditional commitment for lithium processing 
            at the fully permitted Thacker Pass lithium mine in Nevada, 
            which will produce enough lithium to power more than 
            800,000 EVs annually when operational.

     The Department of Energy Loan Programs Office issued a 
            $700 million conditional commitment for lithium processing 
            at the Rhyolite Ridge lithium mine in Nevada, which plans 
            to produce enough lithium to power 370,000 new EVs annually 
            when operational. Yesterday, the Bureau of Land Management 
            issued the final Environmental Impact Statement for the 
            project.

     The Department of Defense awarded Albemarle $90 million 
            through the Defense Production Act to support the restart 
            of the Kings Mountain lithium mine in North Carolina, which 
            could produce enough lithium to power 1.2 million new EVs 
            annually when operational.

     The Department of Energy awarded $39 million through the 
            Advanced Research Projects Agency-Energy Mining Innovations 
            for Negative Emissions Resource Recovery (MINER) program to 
            16 projects to develop technologies to increase the 
            domestic supply of critical minerals while reducing energy 
            use and emissions.

     The Department of the Interior approved the Gibellini 
            vanadium project in Nevada, the first vanadium mine in the 
            U.S., which will support next-generation energy storage 
            batteries, steelmaking and advanced alloys.

     The Department of Agriculture issued a final Environmental 
            Impact Statement and draft Record of Decision for the 
            Stibnite gold-antimony project in Idaho. Supported by $60 
            million in funding through the Defense Production Act, the 
            project will be the only domestic source for antimony, a 
            necessary critical mineral for munitions and next-
            generation battery technologies.

     The $1.7 billion Hermosa zinc-manganese project in Arizona 
            became the first mining project to receive FAST-41 
            coverage, supporting coordination, collaboration and 
            transparency in the permitting process. Today, South32 also 
            received a [$x] Department of Energy award to process the 
            manganese produced by the mine for electric vehicle 
            batteries.

     The Department of Energy Loan Programs Office clarified 
            that domestic critical minerals mining and extraction 
            projects are eligible for financing under the Title 17 
            Clean Energy Financing Program, broadening its support for 
            critical minerals projects.

Establishing a ``Mine-to-Magnet'' Supply: Chain for Rare Earth Elements
    Rare earth permanent magnets power everything from electric vehicle 
motors and wind turbines to missile defense systems. Currently, large 
portions of the supply chain, from mining to processing to magnet 
manufacturing, are controlled by China. Through the Department of 
Defense and the Department of Energy, the Biden-Harris Administration 
is taking action to secure domestic production throughout the magnet 
supply chain.

     The Department of Defense has awarded $45 million to MP 
            Materials for rare earth oxide processing at Mountain Pass, 
            the only operating U.S. rare earth element mine, and more 
            than $288 million to Lynas USA to establish commercial-
            scale rare earth oxide production.

     Down the supply chain, the Department of Defense has 
            invested more than $94 million in E-VAC Magnetics to 
            establish a commercial-scale magnet manufacturing facility 
            in South Carolina, as well as metals and alloys. E-VAC also 
            disclosed that it was allocated $112 million through the 
            Inflation Reduction Act 48C tax credit to support its 
            manufacturing facility.

     M.P. Materials voluntarily disclosed that it was allocated 
            nearly $60 million through the Inflation Reduction Act 
            Section 48C tax credit to advance its rare earth permanent 
            magnet manufacturing facility in Fort Worth, Texas, which 
            will produce enough permanent magnets to power more than 
            500,000 General Motors Ultium electric vehicles.

     The Department of Energy awarded $17.5 million to Niron 
            Magnetics through the Advanced Research Projects Agency-
            Energy Seeding Critical Advances for Leading Energy 
            technologies with Untapped Potential (SCALEUP) program for 
            pilot production efforts to commercialize an iron nitride 
            based rare:-earth free permanent magnets.

     The President directed his U.S. Trade Representative to 
            increase tariffs on permanent magnets beginning in 2026, 
            which will protect U.S. magnet producers from being 
            undercut by unfair trade practices.

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    Mr. Stauber. The Chair now recognizes Representative 
Collins.
    Mr. Collins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to yield 
20 seconds at least, to the gentleman----
    Mr. Tiffany. Yield a couple of seconds.
    I just want to remind the Committee that it was a couple of 
years ago in this Natural Resources Committee where my 
colleagues on the other side of the aisle had a witness and 
talked about why we couldn't mine in northern Minnesota and why 
we couldn't mine in Arizona. She said it was too wet in 
Minnesota and too dry in Arizona. I asked the same question of 
her: Where should we mine? And she said the quiet part out loud 
in this Committee, and she says, ``Nowhere.''
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Tiffany. Representative Collins, back to you.
    Mr. Collins. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You know, gosh, I 
have so many notes over here I don't really know where I want 
to start. But I do want to say it is nice to see that there is 
a common theme this morning of national security and economic 
growth through mining. And Mr. Chairman, as a sophomore up here 
I want to say that one of the best things that ever happened 
were the field hearings that we had.
    I actually went to Duluth, Minnesota. I was up there at the 
mine. I saw people sitting across from me that, Ms. Lyon, you 
are exactly right, the best of the best. They were worried to 
death about the next generation and what they were going to do 
because they couldn't get that mine permitted. As a matter of 
fact, the Federal piece of property couldn't get mined, but 
they were mining on the State property. It really didn't make 
any sense to me.
    I went to Arizona, saw where, man, some of the most 
skillful mining operations that there are today. Impressive. It 
is amazing what technology does and what we do in the United 
States.
    And Ms. Lyon, I am just like you. I would never bet against 
America. We are the best. We are the best country in the world. 
We are the biggest on the block, and there is no problem with 
me saying I am proud to be America first, and we should all be 
America first.
    I just want to go through a few things that I know. Matter 
of fact, China, and I heard it even with our Ranking Member 
talking about China processing, of course China is processing 
everything. The majority of our critical minerals are processed 
by China. Why? Because we are down to three smelters here in 
the United States and we have to send over 80 percent of what 
we do process in the United States to China so that they can 
process it and send it back here from what we are mining. And 
that is because I think that, in a lot of ways, we are our own 
worst enemy. We create our problems through the Federal 
Government and the Federal bureaucracy that has continued to 
interfere in all industries.
    But Mr. Harrell, in the short time that I have, I heard you 
say when Mr. Wittman was asking you a few questions, pricing. 
Pricing is an issue. It is an issue. And I read your testimony, 
and I just want you to expand a little bit on maybe judicial 
review and how that plays a part in pricing, and what happens 
to mines when judicial review, and the time frame it takes to 
get a mine up and going.
    Mr. Harrell. Absolutely. Thank you, Congressman Collins, 
for your leadership on these issues.
    Effectively, the regulatory process in many cases can cut 
one-third of the value of a mining project here. And that 
uncertainty, time is money. So, we have to find a way to 
balance speed and safety, but get to yes or no on these answers 
reviewing quickly.
    The judicial process draws this out particularly long in 
multiple ways. One, the process itself is long. The amount of 
time in which people can object to projects, the amount of time 
it takes the judicial system to review these projects and other 
parts of that area.
    The other part is so many of our Federal agencies are 
trying to litigate-proof their environmental analysis. That is 
how we are getting these thousands and thousands of pages of 
documents that are starting to evaluate things that are not 
even in the scope of a project or far beyond what Congress ever 
intended because they are putting together environmental impact 
statements to try to make it litigation-proof.
    Mr. Collins. Would you say that a number of these 
litigation problems, to put it lightly, come from frivolous 
lawsuits from environmentalists?
    Mr. Harrell. They are one stakeholder that plays a 
significant role in suing to try to block projects.
    Mr. Collins. I would agree 100 percent.
    Mr. Chairman, before I yield back, I just have to comment 
on how we talk about our tribal lands and our Native American 
Tribes. I find it rich that we just had a hearing here less 
than a year ago with tribal communities talking about how drug 
trafficking, crime, and how they need help from the American 
people and from our law enforcement to help keep them safe and 
we failed them at that, but then we just had a hearing where 
the Navajo want to do their own mining, but we had an 
environmentalist sitting next to him talking about how they are 
suing them so that they can't mine on their own property when 
these people want to be economically independent and take care 
of themselves. But yet, we sit here and we say we are going to 
take care of you on one side, we fail you, but then we say you 
are not able to mine on your own property and take care of your 
own people. That is kind of hypocritical.

    With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back.

    Mr. Stauber. Welcome to my world. Thank you very much.

    Before I go on to Representative Hageman, I do want to ask 
unanimous consent to enter into the record the following 
reports.

    It is a May 23rd report commissioned by the Biden 
administration's Department of Labor, titled ``Forced Labor and 
Cobalt Mining in the Democratic Republic of the Congo,'' where 
they admit there is child-forced labor.

    The next thing I would like to request to be placed into 
the record by unanimous consent is a letter from the North 
America's Building Trades, where they support the expansive 
benefits of domestic mining and the impediment caused by our 
permitting system.

    And then The American Experiment talks about their absolute 
support for mining in Minnesota.

    And then the Institute for Energy Research, the ``Economic 
and Strategic Importance of Domestic Mineral Production 
Supporting Domestic Mining in this Country.''

    Without objection, so moved.

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                 North America's Building Trades Unions

                             Washington, DC

                                               February 6, 2025    

Hon. Pete Stauber, Chairman
Hon. Yassamin Ansari, Ranking Member
House Natural Resources Committee
Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee
1324 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515

    Dear Chairman Stauber and Ranking Member Ansari:

    On behalf of North America's Building Trades Unions (NABTU) and the 
three million members we represent, we thank the subcommittee for 
holding this important hearing. Across our nation, thousands of our 
members remain in limbo due to the lack of permitting certainty 
surrounding the construction of mines. These men and women are eager to 
get to work supplying our nation with a greater sense of self-
sufficiency found by diminishing our reliance on mineral imports from 
adversarial nations, thereby ensuring our national security and growing 
our ability to establish numerous domestic industries.
    As the highest skilled workforce in the country, the Building 
Trades are committed to constructing these mines with the utmost 
professionalism, addressing our imminent need to both extract these 
minerals and protect the communities where they are located. The 
construction of these projects typically requires thousands of skilled 
construction professionals, many coming from the rural communities 
where they are sited. They are a crucial engine for growth both locally 
and nationally.
    We at NABTU have urged all Members of Congress to recognize the two 
critical factors in this debate; the expansive benefits of domestic 
mining, and the impediment caused by our permitting regime. In many 
cases the minerals from these mines go to develop domestic industries 
where our members are building manufacturing facilities or deploying 
technologies at larger scale.
    The jobs from these mines are not limited strictly to the project's 
boundaries, they are exponential by nature. However, these benefits 
cannot be fully felt until Congress overhauls our permitting framework. 
It is unacceptable for projects to be held in a permitting purgatory 
for a decade while workers wait to see whether their highly anticipated 
role in the project will come to fruition.
    We thank the committee for its steadfast commitment to responsibly 
addressing this issue and its continued support for the working men and 
women of the Building Trades.

            Sincerely,

                                             Sean McGarvey,
                                                          President

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    Mr. Stauber. And I will recognize Representative Hageman 
from Wyoming for 5 minutes.
    Ms. Hageman. Thank you. It is an honor to be here. 
Congratulations on your chairmanship. We look forward to your 
leadership over the next 2 years.
    Wyoming is the largest coal producer in the Nation, and 
what I want to say to everyone is you are welcome.
    [Laughter.]
    Ms. Hageman. We keep the lights on, and we heat your homes. 
We do a beautiful job of it, and I invite everyone on this 
Committee to come to Wyoming and tour our mines. And I can 
assure you, you will be impressed.
    In talking about our native populations, the Navajo Tribe 
is the owner of one of our largest coal mines, and it is 
important that we keep those operations in place and that we, 
in fact, expand them.
    Coal is the energy of the future. It is not the energy of 
the past, and the hysteria over global warming and climate 
change is not improving our environment. It is making us poor. 
It is creating more energy poverty, and it is making us weaker 
on a national and international stage.
    Ms. Lyon, you state in your testimony that a two-decade 
timeline from prospecting to production is far too long for 
critical minerals. And I agree with you because Wyoming is also 
home to many critical minerals. The permitting process for new 
mines in the U.S. is overly cumbersome, unnecessarily complex, 
and makes resource development uncompetitive with other 
countries. How would you propose to streamline this process so 
that critical mineral projects like Bear Lodge Rare Earth 
Project in Wyoming can help to secure and domesticate this 
critical supply chain?
    Ms. Lyon. Thank you, Congresswoman, for your question. As I 
have mentioned, we need long-term solutions and short-term 
tools. Those long-term tools, or solutions, include permitting 
reform and streamlining that will help our agencies work 
together, rather than work against each other. And all of those 
voices need to be at the table.
    We need timelines that we can count on, and we need some 
judicial review reform in order to ensure that, after a $400 
million investment, we know we have a permit we can act on, and 
we can get these minerals out of the ground after we have 
earned the right and the ability to do so.
    Ms. Hageman. Certainty and stability seem to be two of the 
most important issues that you are describing there.
    In the 118th Congress, we passed Senate File 2228, which 
exempted semiconductor projects from NEPA, even though the 
mining industries which produced the minerals and fuels needed 
to produce the chips enjoy no such exemption. Do you think only 
exempting certain industries when widespread permitting reform 
is needed is wise national policy-making?
    Ms. Lyon. No, ma'am.
    Ms. Hageman. I don't, either. That is why I introduced H.R. 
676, which uses the same approach as Senate File 2228, but for 
minerals and fuels. In order to sustain our grid, ensure 
national security, and support industries such as the 
semiconductor industry, do you think legislation such as this 
is needed?
    Ms. Lyon. While I am not familiar with the specific 
legislation, semiconductors to all technologies are absolutely 
required for our national security and our energy future to 
produce the energy we need as a country.
    Ms. Hageman. Energy security is national security. I think 
it is that simple.
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, ma'am.
    Ms. Hageman. And regardless of what it is that we are 
producing, whether it is oil and gas or uranium, phosphorus, 
potash, whatever it may be, it is absolutely critical for our 
food supply chain, our energy supply chain, and making sure 
that we can maintain the same standard of living that we have 
right now. Isn't that true?
    Ms. Lyon. Absolutely, ma'am. Our energy resources are also 
reliant on an infrastructure behind it to get it onto the grid 
that uses all of the minerals that you can think of.
    Ms. Hageman. Yes. Uranium plays a critical role in our 
energy and national security, supporting 20 percent of the 
electrical grid, our nuclear navy, nuclear deterrence, and 
other defense applications, and lifesaving medical applications 
as well.
    In 2018, the U.S. Geological Survey, or USGS, included 
uranium on its inaugural Critical Minerals List. In 2022, the 
Biden administration improperly removed uranium from its 
updated list with no consideration given to the underlying 
merits. This decision puts uranium at a disadvantage in the 
Federal permitting process and critical minerals programs and 
is counterproductive to our legislative achievements over the 
past 2 years.
    Mr. Bazilian, how is the intent of the Prohibiting Russian 
Uranium Imports Act and Nuclear Fuel Security Act being 
undermined by the exclusion of uranium on the USGS Critical 
Mineral List and the DOE Critical Mineral List?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, Congresswoman.
    Uranium is terribly important to the United States. It is 
also important to Native American lands, as you know. We import 
lots of our uranium from Canada, our closest neighbor, of 
course Kazakhstan, as well, but Canada is an important part of 
that supply chain.
    I would also note that very recently there has finally been 
a deal to transport uranium across the Navajo Nation, and part 
of that deal includes helping clean up and the possibility with 
new technologies of getting new uranium from those resources. 
So, I think having it as top of mind is very important.
    Ms. Hageman. Do you think it should be on the Critical 
Minerals List?
    Dr. Bazilian. The current Critical Minerals List of USGS 
needs to be refined in many ways.
    Ms. Hageman. OK. Thank you, I yield back.
    Mr. Stauber. Thank you.
    Before I go to Representative Ezell, in my opening 
statement I mentioned that it took on average 29 years to open 
a mine, and there were some concerns about whether that was 
accurate or not. For the record, I am going to now submit the 
S&P Global Report that specifically says it takes an average of 
29 years for a critical mineral project to progress from the 
discovery of the mineral to production in the United States. I 
wanted to clear that up if anybody had any concerns.
    I ask unanimous consent to enter it into the record.
    Without objection.

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    Mr. Stauber. Representative Ezell, you are up for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you for your 
leadership. I want to give 30 seconds to Dr. Gosar. Just 30 
seconds.
    Dr. Gosar. Thank you so very much.
    First of all, I would like to talk about patents. I think 
this is very interesting for this aspect because in 2011 we 
went from first to discover to first to file, and that has been 
very problematic.
    I want to bring up, for example, Dr. Bazilian, are you 
familiar with the new Schlumberger lithium concentration 
process?
    Dr. Bazilian. Roughly, yes.
    Dr. Gosar. OK. So, this is going to be something 
revolutionary because now what we have turned in is real usable 
water, because lithium concentrations take up a lot of water, 
and they are actually cleaning it at the same time they are 
actually producing it. I think this is a whole other realm we 
haven't even talked about.
    Last but not least, what percentage of our critical 
minerals are recycled, Doctor?
    Dr. Mulvaney. Very little. It is 5 percent of rare Earths, 
zero gallium, zero germanium. Now, tellurium, if we, you know, 
First Solar uses 40 percent of the tellurium supply, and they 
are able to recycle their panels and recover 95 percent of 
that. And that is partly because of a condition for entering 
the European Union market 15 years ago, where they required it 
because they had cadmium also in the solar panel.
    Dr. Gosar. Well, I am a big recycler, so we need to really 
put that in place. Thanks.
    I yield back to the gentleman.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you. America's future depends on critical 
minerals which are essential to our military economy and 
national security. We have all talked about that this morning. 
Yet, we remain dangerously dependent on foreign adversaries 
like China.
    While it takes us nearly 30 years to open a mine due to 
bureaucratic red tape and radical environmental litigation, 
China is rapidly expanding its control over global mineral 
supply chains. This is a direct threat to our national 
security. We have the resources, workforce, technology to mine 
and process these critical minerals right here at home. One 
example is in my home State of Mississippi, Gulfport, 
Mississippi.
    Chemours is the world's largest producer of titanium 
dioxide through the chloride process. China also produces this 
product, but uses a less efficient and more dangerous method. 
The process is so valuable that the Chinese attempted to steal 
it. But IP theft is not our only challenge. Just remember this: 
the Chinese are not our friends. China's economic aggression is 
being aided by the failed Biden policies and decades of 
regulatory overreach.
    Thankfully, President Trump signed an Executive Order on 
the first day in office and cut the red tape to restore 
American mineral independence. It is time to unleash domestic 
mining, put America, not China, in control of our future. I 
look forward to all this Committee will accomplish in 
partnership with the administration.
    Dr. Bazilian, you also cite the importance of the 
President's EO, as I mentioned earlier. As you know, palladium 
is essential for the U.S. auto industry, yet the industry's 
reliance is largely dependent on South Africa and Russia. How 
might our dependence on these foreign suppliers impact our 
supply of vehicles for the market?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, Congressman.
    Just starting with your first point, today in the United 
States we produce 162 mining engineering students per year in 
the entire country and China produces roughly 20 times that. 
So, in terms of innovation of technologies, processes, and 
mining, they are far ahead in the talent pool, which underlies 
everything else, including your question about vehicles.
    I think that we are going to need to think not in terms of 
ores, as I have said, but across the supply chains from the 
upstream supply of the ores all the way down to the vehicles 
you assess in order to make good decisions.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you. We know our military depends on 
critical minerals, materials for everything from fighter jets 
to missile defense systems. You mentioned this in your 
testimony, sir, but you can expand on the most immediate 
national security risk from the dependence, and what steps 
should Congress take right now to mitigate these risks.
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, sir.
    I have briefed most of the combatant commands on this 
issue, and they are all taken with it for different reasons, 
the regional combatant commands. And as we speak, from 6 months 
ago to 6 months in the future there will be on the order of 10 
tabletop wargame exercises looking at optimization for their 
specific needs. And I think what we need to do is take the 
system boundary of everything and focus it in on the specific 
needs of those military applications first and then move out.
    Mr. Ezell. Thank you.
    Mr. Harrell, even when U.S. companies try to compete, China 
actively manipulates global markets to drive them out of 
business. Who would have ever dreamed that that could go on 
right here in America? We saw this with cobalt when Chinese-
backed production in the Congo drove prices so low that the 
only cobalt mine in the U.S. had to shut down. This is blatant 
economic warfare, and we are allowing this to happen. How can 
the U.S. counter these practices by the Chinese?
    Mr. Harrell. Yes, these are global commodities. And the 
Chinese are using their subsidies and tools, and then many of 
our competitors are doing it to impact the marketplace, right? 
So, it does mean that we need to find ways to enable 
development here. We need to work with partners.
    Nuclear fuel is a great example where, you know, the five 
leading nations that are involved in the nuclear world made a 
joint commitment at the G7 last year that they are going to 
wean off Russian fuel products. Then this Congress, or the 
previous Congress, passed a Russian fuel import limitation. We 
are not going to be able to do this alone in the global 
marketplace, and so we need to leverage those allies closely.
    Mr. Ezell. If I might have one more?
    Dr. Gosar [presiding]. Sure.
    Mr. Ezell. Ms. Lyon, thank you for telling us about these 
years and years of delays, and thank you for all you have done. 
Let's continue to bring this to light, these delays that are 
causing us to fall behind.
    So, thank you all for being here today and providing us 
with this good information.
    Thank you.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman from Mississippi. The 
gentleman from Colorado, Mr. Crank, is recognized for 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Crank. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I apologize for being a 
little bit late. I, at the same time, had a classified briefing 
over on the House Armed Services Committee where I serve on the 
threat from China. So, we won't be talking about any of that 
here today. But clearly, there are continuing threats that we 
are talking about in this Committee, as well.
    The United States conceded dominance of the mineral markets 
to China, and we are paying a price for it economically, 
environmentally, with labor norms and with our national 
security. It is evident in all of the witness testimony before 
us that China has the ability, at the flip of a switch, to ban 
the export of key minerals or processing technologies, or dump 
minerals on the market to prevent us from reclaiming a domestic 
market.
    So, to put it simply, China has no intention of 
relinquishing its choke hold on any part of the mineral supply 
chain.
    And rather than taking a proactive and thoughtful and 
strategic approach to minerals, the past 4 years the Biden 
administration stifled domestic mineral production, issuing 
public lands withdrawals or vacated leases to stop energy and 
mineral production on Federal lands. They issued a report on 
mining reforms that lacked any substantial ideas to improve the 
permitting timelines or projects, and they botched the 
implementation of Fiscal Responsibility Act NEPA reforms that 
were intended to make the permitting process predictable. It 
appears that only when it was necessary or an existential 
threat to national security or their climate agenda did the 
Biden administration take any positive action on domestic 
mining.
    Mr. Harrell, I completely agree that the U.S. needs a 
better domestic strategy not only for our economic prosperity, 
but also for our national security. However, China has a global 
strategy to retain mineral dominance. So, what actions globally 
should the U.S. be considering to re-assert dominance in the 
minerals market?
    Mr. Harrell. Thank you, Congressman Crank, and it is a 
great question. It is an important piece of the puzzle. We have 
to do things here at home and there are global moves that we 
need to make. These bilateral, multi-lateral agreements with 
partners that jointly try to wean off the Chinese dominance in 
this realm, I think, are going to be really important.
    We need to use tools in the tool belt that we have here in 
the U.S., things that are going to come before this Congress in 
the next 2 years. The Development Finance Corporation's 
reauthorization will be coming up here soon. That is one tool 
in the tool belt where we can help finance projects abroad as 
well that can support our mineral needs.
    I think, as Ms. Lyon referenced, the Export-Import Bank of 
the United States, that is up for reauthorization in 2026: 
another important tool to catalyze and promote U.S. technology 
and infrastructure here in this country if we use it the right 
way.
    So, we have to use those tools in our tool belt. We are 
never going to out subsidize China, so we need to use these 
innovative, free-market financing tools that the U.S. has at 
its disposal to really compete.
    Mr. Crank. Yes, they are waging economic war against us. 
And we had a subcommittee hearing in another subcommittee of 
this Committee, and we talked about cables and, you know, how 
we just tie ourselves up with environmental regulations and the 
Chinese just laugh. They must be laughing at us, the way that 
we do this to ourselves.
    Dr. Bazilian, you mentioned in your testimony it may not be 
realistic for the U.S. to catch up to China. Are there more 
formal frameworks between the U.S. and its allies that we 
should be looking at to create an alternative mineral market?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, Congressman. I will repeat what I 
said, that China is producing roughly 20 times the experts in 
the area that we are today. They are investing tens of billions 
of dollars, and not just domestically but all over the world. 
That is not diplomacy. That is actual investment in projects 
that the countries want.
    We also have to improve markets for these goods. Without 
transparent markets with decent price discovery, it is 
incredibly difficult for domestic companies to go to their 
board and make a financial decision to invest.
    We should focus on military needs very specifically. And 
the war games I just mentioned, the 10 or so war games going 
on, are an important input into your decision-making.
    And finally, going back, working with allies across this is 
incredibly important, but diplomacy is slow. We had ERGI under 
the first Trump administration, we have MSP under Biden. And 
what you do in this Congress will make a big difference in the 
outcomes.
    Mr. Crank. Thank you.
    I yield back 1 second, Mr. Chairman.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman from Colorado. The 
gentleman from Alaska, Mr. Begich, is recognized for his 5 
minutes.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would just like to 
start with a statement.
    It is incredible to me to see some of my colleagues in 
Congress and their amazing faith in government. It just blows 
my mind sometimes. The faith is so great, in fact, that there 
are some colleagues in this body who believe that Congress can 
pass laws that will change the weather, an incredible amount of 
faith.
    I don't have that much faith in government, but I do have 
some questions for those who are here today. You know, Alaska 
has nearly every critical mineral on the Critical Minerals List 
and has those minerals in economic quantities. And we heard 
statements to the contrary today, but I would just like to 
counter that point and say Alaska is the answer to so many of 
our critical mineral challenges.
    One of the challenges that we have heard discussed at 
length today is regulatory overburden. We just have too many 
laws, too many agencies, too much nexus on the books. And when 
you have a mine time that takes 29 years from the time you 
discover a mine until the time you can actually actively mine 
that resource, China is doing this in 12, 18, 24 months. And we 
have to do everything we can do to streamline that process. I 
call this regulatory arbitrage. Regulatory arbitrage, where 
other jurisdictions, other nations have made mining a critical 
priority, whereas we have done apparently everything we can do 
in this body and across other bodies in the Nation to stymie 
mineral development.
    So, my question first to Dr. Bazilian: What frameworks 
would you recommend to address this regulatory arbitrage that 
seems to exist?
    Dr. Bazilian. Thank you, Congressman.
    One of the first things we need to do to get to financial 
decisions here, even with economically viable resources, is to 
improve markets and improve the transparency, the price 
discovery, the liquidity of those markets. Today, if I ask 
anyone in this august chamber to tell me the price of crude oil 
in Dubai, you can do it in 10 seconds, as can your children. If 
you try to do that for graphite, it will take you all day and 
you will still get the answer wrong, and it might be traded in 
yuan.
    So, the fundamental need to improve these markets helps 
everything else on this supply chain. So, that is at least one 
answer to your question.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you. So, let me now turn to Mr. Harrell.
    The hearing memo references the USGS CML and the need to 
republish it every 3 years, which will take place this year. 
The most recent list only included 50 minerals as critical, 
with a definition of ``being essential to economic and national 
security of the United States, produced from a supply chain 
vulnerable to disruption, and serving an essential function in 
the manufacturing of a product.'' It is astounding that copper, 
gold, and silver are not currently included, and I will be 
pushing for their inclusion this year. In my mind, critical 
minerals are important and hard to get. Copper is critical for 
electrification and its exclusion is more than a gross 
oversight, it is gross negligence in my view.
    Aside from ensuring our agencies publish lists of minerals 
we actually need and must be able to have access to, are there 
other areas that you believe Congress should focus on to ensure 
development and production of all minerals that society needs 
can become a become a reality?
    Mr. Harrell. Yes, thank you for the question, Congressman, 
and no doubt we need to modernize these lists and figure out 
how we are better prioritizing the production of these things. 
Copper, one of the top areas where we need it for aerospace, 
defense technologies, clean energy technologies, nuclear power, 
energy storage. I mean, we need it for literally almost 
everything in our everyday lives.
    The lists are really about, like, access to certain 
programs to drive forward and invest in our domestic capacity. 
So, you know, I think we absolutely need to modernize these 
lists, but ultimately, we need a comprehensive strategy that is 
using these tools where we innovate, where we try to foster 
more private-sector finance in this space. How do we direct 
investments here?
    So, if we look at this comprehensively, we try to restore 
some regulatory predictability, and we can support U.S. 
industry because we are not fighting on a level playing field 
in the global realm, I think we can make immense progress here. 
But it is going to be a long fight, right? Like, we are not 
going to rein back, you know, China has 80 percent, 
effectively, in aggregate of global processing capacity. It is 
going to take a while, but we need to start now.
    Mr. Begich. Thank you. And if I may just for a moment make 
the statement, you know, we have heard a lot about the 
importance of critical minerals and mining generally for 
national security. It is also critical for restoring domestic 
supply chains. We can mine things here, but we have to be able 
to smelt and refine those products here in order to move them 
through to a manufactured state, a finished state.
    One of the things that we see is, even when we do mine 
successfully in the United States, oftentimes those minerals 
are sent to jurisdictions like China. The next time we see 
those minerals is in an iPhone, and we have missed out on all 
that economic activity domestically. That is something we need 
to change. And in order to change it, we have to make sure that 
we are encouraging the next step in mineral processing, which 
is smelting and refining.
    Thank you, and I yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman. The gentleman from Texas, 
Mr. Hunt, is recognized for his 5 minutes.
    Mr. Hunt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, witnesses, 
for being here.
    On November the 5th, 2024 the American people spoke. The 
American people answered the question of what they want the 
future to look like. The American people want the United States 
to control its own destiny and not rely on hostile nations. 
That is why domestic mineral production and processing is so 
important.
    China dominates the mineral supply chain, controlling 
approximately 60 percent of global production and an estimated 
90 percent of processing. We must mine in the United States and 
grow our processing capacity and manufacturing base, and that 
is exactly how you make America great again.
    If you have ever spoken to my dear friend, Mr. Stauber, he 
would immediately tell you that the largest cobalt find in the 
world is in his home State of Minnesota. In fact, he will 
probably lead with that before he gave you his own name.
    We must be able to access our domestic resources to stave 
off our adversaries. Another way is through the collection of 
polymetallic nodules. And these potato-sized rocks are full of 
cobalt, copper, iron, manganese, nickel, zinc, and rare Earth 
minerals. These minerals are found in the Cook Islands and in 
the Clarion-Clipperton Zone, right off the coast of Hawaii. 
Because the CCZ is governed by the United Nations, I am once 
again introducing a resolution encouraging the United Nations 
to issue rules and regulations related to the CCZ. These 
regulations will allow American companies working with friendly 
countries to collect these minerals responsibly, denying China 
yet another opportunity to strangle another facet of the 
mineral supply chain in the entire world.
    I encourage my Democrat colleagues to consider my 
resolution and support Mr. Stauber's legislation and helped 
thwart China's domination of the minerals that our country and 
the world so dearly needs.
    Thank you all so much for being here. I really appreciate 
it. I yield back the remainder of my time to the Chairman.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman. The gentleman from 
Colorado, Mr. Hurd, is now recognized for 5 minutes.
    Mr. Hurd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning. Thank you 
to the witnesses for bearing with us in these questions.
    Dr. Bazilian mentioned that critical mineral security and 
success are, in your words, intimately tied to Indian Country. 
And also, Dr. Mulvaney in his testimony addresses the issue of 
tribal and community engagement. These things are near and dear 
to me as the Chairman of the Indian and Insular Affairs 
Subcommittee here on Natural Resources.
    My question, though, is to you, Ms. Lyon. Can you tell me 
what Perpetua has done on this front to thoughtfully engage 
Tribes and other communities around the Stibnite Project?
    Ms. Lyon. Yes, Congressman, thank you for the question.
    It started with our vision that we could go back to an 
abandoned mine site, improve water quality, and improve salmon 
habitat, and overall restore the degraded resources available 
at this site. And then we put that into action through 
listening. So, early engagement with our tribal communities 
helped us understand many of the needs and interests held by 
our Tribes in Idaho.
    It then included action. So, we have now invested $19 
million right now in going and cleaning up a legacy for a mess 
we didn't make to help improve those resources today. We have 
made a number of changes to our mine plan to accommodate it.
    But it is not just our early action. The U.S. Government 
has also upheld their trust obligation through government-to-
government consultation. And through the last 8 years and then 
in the culmination of our final Record of Decision, mandated 
tribal access through Stibnite, tribal observation, and tribal 
monitoring plans.
    Mr. Hurd. Great. Thank you, Ms. Lyon. And a quick follow-up 
question to you. You mentioned that this project is designed to 
repair environmental legacies left behind from mining 
activities that occurred more than 100 years ago. I know that 
you haven't been able to move even a single shovel of dirt yet, 
but can you talk about what the Stibnite Project looks like 
now, from an environmental standpoint, and what effect would 
this project have on that site from an environmental 
standpoint?
    Ms. Lyon. Congressman, thank you for the question again.
    Today, Stibnite is a mess. It has seen over 100 years of 
mining activity off and on before it was abandoned. So, there 
are no solutions to the fact that one ton of arsenic leaches 
into the river. There are no solutions to the fact that 20 
miles of fish habitat are blocked, except for our project, 
which was designed specifically to take on those legacies and 
improve them through mining.
    So, we know we could improve water quality. We know we can 
open access to salmon habitat. And even the U.S. Forest Service 
found that we will have a long-term benefit to the salmon 
accessing Stibnite.
    Mr. Hurd. Ms. Lyon, is it fair to say that the Stibnite 
mining project would leave the environment better than it is 
right now?
    Ms. Lyon. Absolutely.
    Mr. Hurd. Thank you.
    Dr. Bazilian, quick question. Can you help me understand 
the difference between the phrase ``critical minerals'' and 
``rare Earth minerals''? What is the difference between those? 
Just help with basic terminology there.
    Dr. Bazilian. Yes. Rare Earths are a group of 17 minerals, 
so they are a subset of the wider Critical Minerals List, at 
least in the United States.
    Mr. Hurd. OK. That is helpful, thank you. So, it is 
different. One is a subset of the other, then. Got it.
    Dr. Bazilian. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Hurd. One thing that I wanted to ask you and also Dr. 
Harrell about are the need to not just mine these minerals, but 
the processing whereby we can make the minerals capable of 
being used. Can you talk a little bit about that and the 
importance of doing that here domestically, as well?
    Dr. Bazilian. Yes, sir. As I have said, it is very 
important to think of this area in terms of the full supply 
chain. And how it works is that mining ore brings less value-
add to an economy than producing advanced manufacturing. So, 
that is the first thing.
    And the second is that refining is one step in that, and 
then it needs to lead to advanced manufacturing in order to get 
the best financial returns for companies as well as jobs for 
our people.
    And I will just end, Congressman Hurd, by noting that I 
think it is very important, your work with Native American 
Tribes, and that the focus should be not only on sovereignty 
and listening, but on creating vibrant economies.
    Mr. Hurd. Thank you, Doctor.
    Dr. Harrell, anything else on the processing component of 
this?
    Mr. Harrell. I would just add again we are competing on 
price here. So, in the end, more steps that involve having to 
export this product or move it around or take it out of our 
borders does add significant cost, right? So, to the extent 
that it is feasible, we should be trying to do as much as 
possible here if we want that product to ultimately contribute 
to our domestic challenges.
    Mr. Hurd. Wonderful. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, I 
yield back.
    Dr. Gosar. I thank the gentleman.
    I just want to make a statement. We heard the last three 
speakers talk about the concentration process. And I think this 
is something we overlook because these are typically in rural 
areas. And these are good-paying mine jobs, incredible to the 
economy of rural America.
    And we are coming up with some great ideas of what is 
coming, because with copper comes other different metals that 
you can actually get and collect. And that is why I brought up 
the one with Schlumberger. This technology is growing rapidly, 
as you have said, Doctor, and it is one of those things that we 
really need to keep advantage of.
    Now, we may not have all the rare Earths in the world, but 
we have critical amounts of those in some of those areas that 
you can then parlay. It is called leverage. And we can have our 
clean air, clean water all the way at the same time.
    So, from that standpoint I want to thank the witnesses for 
your valuable contribution today and your techniques.
    The members of the Subcommittee may have additional 
questions for the witnesses, and we will ask you to respond 
with those in writing. Under Committee Rule 3, members of the 
Committee may submit these questions to the Committee Clerk by 
5 p.m. on Tuesday, February 11. The hearing record will be held 
open for 10 business days for these responses.
    If there is no further business, without objection, this 
Committee stands adjourned.

    [Whereupon, at 12:25 p.m., the Subcommittee was adjourned.]

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