[Senate Hearing 118-787]
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                                                     S. Hrg. 118-787

          THE NOMINATIONS OF: MR. RONALD T. KEOHANE 
           TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE 
           FOR MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS; AND 
           HONORABLE NICKOLAS H. GUERTIN TO BE 
           ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE NAVY FOR 
           RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION
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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                             MARCH 15, 2023

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
  
                  JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman
 
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire		ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi
KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York		DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut		TOM COTTON, Arkansas
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii			MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
TIM KAINE, Virginia			JONI ERNST, Iowa
ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine		DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts		KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
GARY C. PETERS, Michigan		RICK SCOTT, Florida
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia		TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois		MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada			TED BUDD, North Carolina
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  	ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri
 
 
 		    Elizabeth L. King, Staff Director
  		John P. Keast, Minority Staff Director


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                             C O N T E N T S
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                             march 15, 2023

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The Nominations of: Mr. Ronald T. Keohane to be Assistant             1
  Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs; and 
  Honorable Nickolas H. Guertin to be Assistant Secretary of the 
  Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition.

                           Members Statements

Reed, Senator Jack...............................................     1

Wicker, Senator Roger F..........................................     3

                           Witness Statements

Keohane, Ronald T., to be Assistant Secretary of Defense for          5
  Manpower and Reserve Affairs.

  Advance Policy Questions.......................................    28

  Questions for the Record.......................................    42

  Nomination Reference and Report................................    44

  Biographical Sketch............................................    46

  Committee on Armed Services Questionnaire......................    48

  Signature Page.................................................    53

Guertin, Hon. Nickolas H., to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy      7
  for Research, Development and Acquisition.

  Advance Policy Questions.......................................    53

  Questions for the Record.......................................    73

  Nomination Reference and Report................................    75

  Biographical Sketch............................................    76

  Committee on Armed Services Questionnaire......................    78

  Signature Page.................................................    88

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THE NOMINATIONS OF: MR. RONALD T. KEOHANE TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF 
  DEFENSE FOR MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS; AND HONORABLE NICKOLAS H. 
GUERTIN TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF THE NAVY FOR RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT 
                            AND ACQUISITION

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                       WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:31 a.m., in 
room G-50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Gillibrand, 
Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Rosen, Kelly, 
Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, and Budd.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. Let me call a hearing to 
order. The Committee meets today to consider the nomination of 
Mr. Ronald Keohane to be Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Manpower and Reserve Affairs, and The Honorable Nicholas 
Guertin to be Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, 
Development, and Acquisition.
    I thank the nominees for their willingness to serve in 
these important roles. I would also like to welcome the family 
members who are here today. Mr. Keohane, I would like to 
recognize your mother, Teresa, who I know wanted to be here 
today and is watching proudly from home.
    Mr. Guertin, I welcome your wife, Maria, son, Enrico, 
daughter, Isabella, brother, Joseph, and cousin, Gregory. We 
are grateful to our nominees' families and loved ones for their 
continued support. Mr. Keohane, you are nominated to be the 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs.
    As the principal advisor on all matters relating to 
civilian and military personnel policies, you will be 
responsible for military community and family policy, and 
reserve integration, as well as day to day supervision of the 
Department of Defense Education activity and the Defense 
Commissary Agency.
    Your extensive leadership experience in the Department of 
Defense, various Federal agencies, and private sector should 
serve you very well in this role. First and foremost, you will 
need to address the military's difficult recruiting 
environment. The services have struggled to meet their 
recruiting objectives for several years, and the total force 
felt tens of thousands of recruits short of its goal last year.
    Further, we know from recent survey data that young 
Americans propensity to serve in the military is at its lowest 
point in decades. There are many factors contributing to this 
challenging environment, including competition with the private 
sector for candidates when the employment rate is at a record 
low.
    Even in the best of times, the military has always 
struggled to recruit when the labor market is slim. As such, 
the services have adjusted their testing and qualification 
strategies to try to overcome these challenges. The Army's 
Future Prep course has shown reasonable success and may provide 
useful insights for the other services.
    Mr. Keohane, our military's greatest asset is its people 
and it will be critical for you to dedicate rigorous, sustained 
efforts toward improving recruitment. I would like to know your 
ideas for increasing the number of young Americans eligible for 
and interested in military service.
    I would also note that military childcare remains a 
challenge, with persistent waitlists for child development 
centers, and in some high-density locations, waitlists for fee 
assistance programs intended to partially offset costs for 
private care. The services have made modest progress in 
shortening these waitlist and hiring cleared providers, but 
more must be done.
    I would ask for your views on how this childcare shortage 
can be improved. But before we move on, let me make one point. 
Diversity and inclusion strengthen our military. By every 
measure, America's military is more lethal and ready than it 
has ever been. It is also more diverse and inclusive than ever 
before. This is not a coincidence.
    America looks more and more like the Nation it represents, 
whether in race, gender, creed, sexuality, or any other 
measure. This is the right direction as America's strength is 
in its diversity. But greater diversity requires greater 
understanding within the ranks, and understanding requires 
learning and regular training. The fundamental bond that 
assures unit cohesion is the commitment by every member to 
protect, not exploit, his or her fellow servicemembers, whoever 
they may be.
    This is a state of mind and heart that must be constantly 
inculcated by training and by example. With that being said, I 
am alarmed by the nature of some criticism of the military. 
Healthy oversight of our military is necessary and productive, 
but undefined accusations are not.
    If criticisms are to be made issue made with facts not 
slogans. There are real consequences to these sorts of 
accusations, both to the cohesion of our force and civil 
society, but also to the benefit of our adversaries. This 
Committee is charged with the solemn privilege of overseeing 
our Nation's military.
    To accomplish this, we must exercise responsible oversight. 
Mr. Guertin, you are nominated to be Assistant Secretary of the 
Navy for Research, Development, and Acquisition. If confirmed, 
you would serve as the Navy's acquisition executive responsible 
for the development and acquisition of all Navy and Marine 
Corps platforms and weapons systems, and for enforcement of the 
Defense Department's acquisition and sustainment procedures.
    You currently serve as the Department of Defense Director 
for Operational Test and Evaluation, having been confirmed to 
that position by this Committee last year. A recent change to 
the position for which you are nominated is the responsibility 
to exercise rather milestone decision authority on behalf of 
the Navy.
    The milestone decision authority, the chief official tasked 
with determining the entry point of an acquisition program in 
the acquisition process, was previously held by the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense but was transferred to the services in 
the Fiscal Year 2021 National Defense Act. I would ask for your 
views on the appropriate balance between acquisition programs 
at the service level and OSD oversight of such programs.
    Also, in 2021, the Navy released its Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program, or SIOP, to address long 
standing infrastructure issues at the Navy's four public 
shipyards. The modernization plan is designed to help address 
growing a maintenance backlog, especially within the submarine 
fleet.
    There is no similar plan for modernizing private shipyards, 
however, even as these private yards conduct maintenance on 
almost all of the Navy surface combatants. Both public and 
private yards are struggling to meet their schedules, and I 
would like to know how you will ensure the Navy effectively 
executes the SIOP, given the scale and investment needed.
    Thank you again to our nominees. I look forward to your 
testimoneys. Now let me recognize, Ranking Member, Senator 
Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank 
our witnesses for being here today and congratulate them on 
their nominations and appreciate their willingness to serve. 
Mr. Keohane has been nominated by the President to be Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs.
    If confirmed, he will therefore be directly responsible for 
nearly all the policies governing careers in the military and 
civilian workforce. During this hearing, I would like to learn 
how he plans to address the most pressing challenge facing the 
military, which is the current recruiting crisis.
    If trends continue this year, the Army, Navy and Air Force 
will all fail to achieve their respective recruiting missions. 
The Army and Navy will be short by at least 10,000 recruits 
each, and the Air Force will fall short on recruits for just 
the third time in its history. The foundation of the all-
volunteer force is a steady supply of young men and women 
willing to serve their country in uniform.
    Without that foundation, the all-volunteer force becomes 
top heavy and less effective. I expect the Assistant Secretary 
to be a leader in fixing this problem. I am concerned the 
Department of Defense is increasingly becoming an instrument of 
controversial social policies. Most of these policies are 
influenced by the office Mr. Keohane hopes to lead.
    I believe this Administration is exacerbating the 
recruiting challenge by prioritizing these policies. A large 
number of Americans do not want to join organization led by 
people who are often more interested in fighting culture wars 
than preparing for actual wars, and I was very interested in 
the Chair's comments just a few moments ago about making sure 
that we are not creating policies based on unfounded 
accusations.
    As someone who joined the United States military half a 
century ago as a young college student, and who served on both 
Active Duty and in the Reserve, I have long ago come to the 
conclusion that the United States military is the greatest 
civil rights organization and the greatest equal opportunity 
program in the history of the world. I believe that has been 
the case for decades and decades and continues to be so.
    So, I do wonder about the unfounded accusations that seem 
to be driving policy. So, I am interested in what Mr. Keohane 
might do if confirmed, to restore the Department's focus on its 
mission, which is to provide military forces needed to deter 
war and ensure our Nation's security. That is the mission that 
makes people so enthusiastic about joining our armed services.
    Now, Mr. Guertin has been nominated by the President to be 
Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development, and 
Acquisition, and he seems to be singularly qualified for this 
important position. He will be responsible for managing the 
development of weapons for the Navy and Marine Corps.
    During this hearing, I hope to learn how the Navy can bring 
the latest technology to our warfighters and make sure the 
systems they currently have are ready to deploy. I am concerned 
the Department of Defense is not moving fast enough to create a 
credible deterrent within the next 5 years as the threat from 
China increases.
    I am sure Mr. Guertin shares that concern. Perhaps we will 
explore that during questions. The Committee has provided means 
for the Navy to move faster in acquisition, but they are not 
taking full advantage of those means. Instead, the Navy relies 
on cautious, slow methods that delay the delivery of critical 
assets.
    By attempting to eliminate risk to acquisition officials, 
the Navy increases risk on the battlefield, and I think that 
can be said service wide, not just for the Navy. We must 
innovate. It is time to make the most of existing acquisition 
authorities so our speed matches or exceeds that of our 
adversaries.
    Mr. Guertin will be in this new capacity in a position to 
help us achieve a quantum leap in this regard. I am interested 
in what Mr. Guertin will do, if confirmed, to change the 
culture of acquisition workforce, to start accepting measured 
risks, and delivery capabilities at the scale and pace that our 
National Defense Strategy requires.
    I thank our witnesses, and I thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker, very much, and 
gentlemen, before I recognize you, there are a series of 
questions that were asked of all civilian nominees. You may 
reply in unison. Have you adhered to applicable laws and 
regulations governing conflicts of interest?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Have you assumed any duties or taken any 
actions that would appear to presume the outcome of the 
confirmation process?
    Mr. Keohane. No.
    Mr. Guertin. No.
    Chairman Reed. Exercising our legislative and oversight 
responsibilities makes it important that this Committee, its 
subcommittees, and other appropriate committees of Congress 
receive testimony, briefings, reports, records, and other 
information from the executive branch on a timely basis. Do you 
agree, if confirmed, to appear and testify before this 
Committee when requested?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Do you agree to provide records, documents, 
and electronic communications in a timely manner when requested 
by this Committee, its subcommittees, or other appropriate 
committees of Congress, and to consult with the requester 
regarding the basis for any good faith delay or denial in 
providing such records?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Will you ensure that your staff complies 
with deadlines established by this Committee for the production 
of reports, records, and other information, including timely 
responding to hearing questions for the record?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Will you cooperate in providing witnesses 
and briefings in response to congressional requests?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Will those witnesses and briefings be 
protected from reprisal for their testimony or briefings?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. Mr. Keohane, 
please.

  STATEMENT OF RONALD T. KEOHANE TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF 
            DEFENSE FOR MANPOWER AND RESERVE AFFAIRS

    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Wicker, and distinguished Members of the Committee. I am deeply 
honored to come before you today as President Biden's nominee 
for Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs.
    I am grateful to President Biden, Secretary Austin, Deputy 
Secretary Hicks, and Undersecretary Cisneros for their trust 
and confidence in me. I want to start with thanking my family, 
friends, and mentors for their encouragement and support that 
has brought me to this place in time.
    While my mother is unable to be here in person today, she 
and my brothers understand the great importance of this moment 
and are certainly cheering me on from afar, and last, to my 
father, who undoubtably is watching down proudly on these 
proceedings.
    Coming from a family of educators, my parents instilled the 
values of hard work, empathy, and public service in my siblings 
and me, which has served as my North Star and given me the 
passion and commitment to serve our servicemembers, their 
families, and our career public servants.
    I have very vivid memories as a small child loading up in 
the family station wagon, as we would drive my father to our 
local armory as he headed off to Fort Drum for his annual 
training. Equally so, I recall the official military photos of 
my uncles that sat in a place of prominence on our living room 
mantle as they served in Vietnam. All a constant reminder of 
the important sacrifice our servicemembers and their families 
make for all of us each and every day.
    I spent the vast majority of my 30-year career in support 
of our servicemembers and their families. My first job out of 
college was as a young Schedule C appointee in the Department 
of Defense during the Clinton administration.
    It was at that time I discovered my passion for working 
with and for our servicemembers and their families. Throughout 
my career, I have worked in support of a wide variety of human 
capital focused efforts to include transition assistance, 
sexual assault response and prevention, mental health 
counseling, and support of our wounded, ill, and injured 
population, among others.
    Under the Obama administration, I had the honor and 
privilege to serve as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense 
for military community and family policy, where I was able to 
further play an important role in a wide array of programs 
supporting our servicemembers and families.
    Secretary Austin has laid out clear priorities, reaffirming 
that the men and women of our armed forces are our most 
valuable asset. I sit here before you today with the full 
understanding that if confirmed, I will be charged with 
addressing some of the most important policy decisions in the 
Department, a responsibility I do not take lightly.
    If confirmed for this position, I will pay special focus on 
a number of major challenges, including recruiting and 
propensity to serve, as well as several issues impacting 
retention, including compensation, spousal employment, and 
access to affordable childcare for our military and our career 
public servant families.
    I have deep appreciation for the hard work this Committee 
has done on behalf of our servicemembers and their families, 
and our civilian workforce. If confirmed, I commit to seeking 
the advice and counsel of this Committee and your staffs 
regularly to advance our Nation's priorities on these most 
important issues.
    Thank you for your consideration. I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Keohane follows:]

                Prepared Statement by Mr. Ronald Keohane
    Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished 
Members of the Committee, I am deeply honored to come before you today 
as President Biden's nominee for Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Manpower and Reserve Affairs. I am grateful to President Biden, 
Secretary Austin, Deputy Secretary Hicks and Undersecretary Cisneros 
for their trust and confidence in me. I want to start with thanking my 
family, friends and mentors for their encouragement and support that 
has brought me to this place and time. While my mother is unable to be 
here in person today, she and my brothers understand the great 
importance of this moment and are certainly cheering me on from afar, 
and last, my father who undoubtedly is proudly watching down on these 
proceedings. Coming from a family of educators my parents instilled the 
values of hard work, empathy and public service in my siblings and me, 
which has served as my north star and given me the passion and 
commitment to serve our servicemembers, their families and our Career 
Public Servants. I have very vivid memories as a small child loading up 
in the family station wagon as we would drive my father to our local 
armory as he headed off to Ft Drum for his annual training each year. 
Equally so I recall the official military photos of my uncles that sat 
in a place of prominence on our living room mantel as they served in 
Vietnam. All a constant reminder of the important sacrifice our 
servicemembers and their families make for all of us each and every 
day. While I have never served in uniform, I have spent the vast 
majority of my 30-year career in support of our servicemembers and 
their families. My first job out of college was as a young Schedule-C 
appointee in the Department of Defense during the Clinton 
administration. It was at that time I discovered my passion for working 
with and for our servicemembers and their families. Throughout my 
career I have worked in support of a wide variety of human capital-
focused efforts to include transition assistance, sexual assault 
response and prevention, mental health counseling and support of our 
Wounded, Ill and Injured population among others. Under the Obama 
administration I had the honor and privilege to serve as the Deputy 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Military Community and Family Policy 
where I was able to further play an important role in a wide array of 
important programs.
    Secretary Austin has laid out clear priorities reaffirming that the 
men and women of our Armed Forces are our most valuable asset. I sit 
here before you today with the full understanding that if confirmed I 
will be charged with addressing some of the most important policy 
decisions in the Department--a responsibility I do not take lightly.
    If confirmed for this position I would pay special focus on a 
number of major challenges including recruitment and propensity to 
serve, as well as several issues impacting retention including 
compensation, spouse employment, and access to affordable childcare for 
our military and our career public servant families.
    I have deep appreciation for this Committee and its role in the 
formation and oversight of our national security policy. If confirmed, 
I commit to consulting with you regularly to advance our nations 
priorities in an active, bipartisan and cooperative spirit.
    Thank you for your consideration and I look forward to your 
questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Keohane. Thank you very much. 
Mr. Guertin, please, or Director Guertin, I should say.

STATEMENT OF HON. NICKOLAS H. GUERTIN TO BE ASSISTANT SECRETARY 
     OF THE NAVY FOR RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT AND ACQUISITION

    Mr. Guertin. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker----
    Chairman Reed. Can you bring that microphone as close as 
possible, please?
    Mr. Guertin. Thank you. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Wicker, and distinguished Members of the Committee, it is a 
privilege to be here today. I am honored to be before you as 
the President's nominee to serve as the Assistant Secretary of 
the Navy for Research, Development, and Acquisition.
    I would like to thank President Biden and Secretary Austin 
and Secretary Del Toro for their confidence in nominating me, 
but I would also like to thank my family who you see behind me, 
Maria, my loving wife of 21 years, our children, Enrico and 
Isabella. Please let me recognize my mother and the rest of my 
family, including my brother Pier and cousin Greg, who are also 
here today.
    Last, I would like to thank the many great mentors and 
teammates across government, industry, and academia that have 
helped me to learn and grow throughout my career. I am 
especially grateful to this Committee to have afforded me the 
best job I have ever had, my current role as Director for 
Operational Test and Evaluation. To be in a position, if 
confirmed, to take on the greatest job I have ever dreamt of to 
be the Naval Acquisition Executive.
    Just as I have enjoyed in my time as DOT&E, I look forward 
to having an open, frank, and honest conversation with you 
about how to transform the way the Navy and Marine Corps 
acquires and sustains our seagoing capabilities. I take this 
renewed commitment to continue to serve our Nation both very 
seriously and with great enthusiasm.
    It has been about a year and a half since I last introduced 
myself to you, but please indulge me a moment for a short 
recap. I spent the past 4 years working on developing, testing, 
fielding, researching, and improving the acquisition of 
military systems.
    I started my career as an enlisted nuclear power plant 
operator in submarines, and then completed the Active Duty 
service, immediately transitioned to the Navy Reserves while 
attending college, and after graduating, landing a job as a 
naval civilian engineer.
    The citizen sailor pairing would serve me well for the 
following decades to keep me grounded and what it took to do 
operations, maintenance, and testing in the fleet while also 
developing new systems.
    There is much vital work to do on behalf of the Navy and 
Marine Corps team. It is not lost on me, and the enormous 
challenge ahead. As I look across the Department, I see an 
aging force in need of modernization. I see existing industrial 
base challenges exacerbated by and still recovering from the 
pandemic.
    I see a need to innovate solutions to affordably develop 
and field systems that provide our sailors and marines an 
advantage in any conflict. Accordingly, I believe that we need 
to think and act differently in order to field naval 
capabilities that protect and enable our Nation's strategic 
interests and economic prosperity.
    I made a career centered around acting thoughtfully to 
change the way we field excellence and warfighting systems. I 
have had an impact on the methods, outcomes, and spanning the 
acquisition of testing of naval capabilities for ships, 
submarines, aircraft, ground vehicles, and the weapon systems 
that go in them.
    I am committed to fulfilling the duties of this office to 
lead a great team dedicated to designing and building 
excellence that works and can be delivered and maintained in 
the quantities needed for the naval force to be effective well 
into the future.
    As a part of that, I intend on collecting their intellect 
and enthusiasm to accelerate and streamline the delivery of 
innovation needed to provide unparalleled warfighting advantage 
at scale. Our enduring requirement must be to foster and 
embrace change, and in doing so, create mission systems that 
are also built to change over time.
    As Secretary Del Toro recently stated, we must empower our 
Navy and Marine Corps acquisition professionals to aggressively 
develop promising technologies into capabilities for warfighter 
needs to maintain maritime dominance.
    If confirmed, it is my objective to live up to that charge, 
and provide for the best trained, best equipped, and most 
capable naval force in the world. It would be an honor to 
contribute to that mission and to serve as Assistant Secretary 
of the Navy for Research, Development, and Acquisition.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today, 
and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Guertin follows:]

               Prepared Statement by Mr. Nickolas Guertin
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, it is a privilege to be here today. I am honored to be 
before you as the President's nominee to serve as the Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition. I 
would like to thank President Biden, Secretary Austin, and Secretary 
DelToro for their confidence in nominating me. I would also like to 
thank my family who you see behind me; Maria, my loving wife of 21 
years and our children Enrico and Isabella. Please let me also 
recognize my mother and the rest of my family including my brother 
Pierre and Cousin Greg who are also here today. Last, I would also like 
to thank the many great mentors and teammates, across Government, 
industry and academia that have helped me continue to learn and grow 
throughout my career.
    I am especially grateful to this Committee to have afforded me the 
greatest job I've ever had, my current role as the Director for 
Operational Test and Evaluation, and to be in a position, if confirmed, 
to take on the greatest job I've ever dreamed of--to be the Naval 
Acquisition Executive. Just as I have enjoyed my time as DOT&E, I look 
forward to having an open and frank conversation with you about how to 
transform the way the Navy and Marine Corps acquires and sustains our 
sea-going fighting capabilities.
    I take this renewed commitment to continue to serve our Nation both 
very seriously and with great enthusiasm. It has been about a year and-
a-half since I last introduced myself to you, but please indulge me a 
moment for a short recap. I spent the past four decades working on, 
developing, testing, fielding, and researching the improvement of 
acquiring military systems. I started my career as an enlisted nuclear 
power plant operator on submarines. Having completed my Active Duty 
service, I immediately transitioned to the Navy Reserves while 
attending college, and after graduating landed a job as a Navy civilian 
engineer. This citizen-sailor pairing would serve me well for the 
following decades by keeping me grounded in what it took to do 
operations, maintenance and testing in the fleet, while also developing 
new systems.
    There is so much vital work to do on behalf of our Navy and Marine 
Corps team. It is not lost on me the enormous challenge ahead. As I 
look across the Department, I see an aging force in need of 
modernization, I see existing industrial base challenges exacerbated 
by, and still recovering from the pandemic, and I see a need to develop 
innovative solutions to affordably develop and field systems that 
provide our sailors and marines an advantage in any conflict. 
Accordingly, I believe we need to think and act differently in order to 
field the Naval capabilities that protect and enable our Nation's 
strategic interests and economic prosperity.
    I have made a career centered around acting thoughtfully to change 
the way we field excellence in warfighting systems. I have had an 
impact on the methods and outcomes spanning the acquisition and testing 
of naval capabilities for ships, submarines, aircraft, ground vehicles 
and the weapon systems that go in them.
    I am committed to fulfilling the duties of this office--to lead a 
great team dedicated to designing and building excellence that works 
and can be delivered and maintained in the quantities needed for the 
Naval force to be effective well into the future. As a part of that, I 
intend on collecting their intellect and enthusiasm to accelerate and 
streamline the delivery of innovation needed to provide an unparalleled 
warfighting advantage--at scale. Our enduring requirement must be to 
foster and embrace change--and in doing so, create mission systems that 
are also built to change over time.
    As Secretary DelToro stated recently we must: ``empower our Navy 
and Marine Corps acquisition professionals to aggressively develop 
promising technologies into capabilities our warfighters need to 
maintain maritime dominance''. If confirmed, it is my objective is to 
live up to that charge and provide for the best trained, best equipped, 
and most capable Naval force in the world. It would be an honor to 
contribute to that mission, and to serve as the Assistant Secretary of 
the Navy for Research, Development and Acquisition.
    Thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today, I look 
forward to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Guertin, and 
gentlemen, thank you both for your testimony. Mr. Keohane, as I 
mentioned in my statement, the Army has an interesting pilot 
program, the Future Soldier Prep Course, which takes recruits 
who may not do well on the test or the physical aspects of the 
process, and puts them in a pilot program, develops them, and 
if they do make those tests, enlists them in the military.
    We also know anecdotally from some recruiters that there 
are some very talented individuals, particularly first-
generation Americans, who may not be as good a tester, but they 
would be excellent soldiers.
    So, do we have to think about the standardized test? Should 
we reconsider their use? Maybe it should be just one tool, not 
the tool. Your comments?
    Mr. Keohane. Senator, I completely agree. I think at this 
point, everything should be on the table. I think we are at the 
point in which we need to consider all new approaches.
    We want to make sure that we are not lowering our 
standards, yet being able to provide an opportunity for anyone 
who wants to serve and is eligible to serve, meets the 
stringent requirements has that opportunity.
    If confirmed for this position, Senator, I would work with 
my team in the services and indeed this Committee on resolving 
that issue immediately.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. We spent a lot of money on 
advertising. I do not have a feeling that we really understand 
it as well as some other larger enterprises, nor do we track it 
as well. Is that something that would be of interest and 
concern to you?
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir. I think it's on the top of my list, 
just personally. I think we need to really look at doing things 
differently. I think technology has not been embraced 
necessarily in that particular recruiting environment. We need 
to readjust, perhaps really engage heavy with some of the 
technology. If it means coming back to this Committee for 
additional guidance and approvals and authorizations, we need 
to be prepared to do that.
    Chairman Reed. Then again, we are fighting a difficult 
battle because the demographics of the country continually 
reduce the pool of eligible individuals. So, every year you are 
looking at essentially a smaller potential group of enlistees.
    We have to recognize that and we have to try means to 
enlarge that pool, and I hope you can do that or will do that.
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir. My previous boss used to always 
refer to us as saying, we need to look--we need to fish in 
different ponds, and I think we need to do that. Our 
traditional views along the Department to recruit amongst the 
same similar Southern States. We need to adjust that. We need 
to look and make sure we are representing the entire country.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Director Guertin, as 
you know, we are having a problem building ships on time and 
within budget. We are also having significant difficulties in 
maintaining ships.
    With only a few exceptions, nuclear powered submarines are 
maintained by the four Navy shipyards at Portsmouth, Norfolk, 
Puget Sound, and Pearl Harbor. Then we have private shipyards 
that deal with most of our surface craft. But the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program, SIOP, which I mentioned, 
is a 20-year, $21 billion effort.
    It is absolutely critical. We need it. In fact, we do not 
have 20 years. We have got to move very, very quickly. The 
poster child for this whole issue is the USS Boise that has 
been tied up since, I think, 2017, waiting for maintenance, 
denying us a nuclear-powered submarine or attack submarine in 
the fleet.
    So, do you have ideas what we can do to expand our capacity 
quickly?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, this is a topic of immense interest 
to me. Having worked at several of those shipyards you 
mentioned and having a strong connection with the shipbuilding 
community, I want to make sure that we aggressively pursue any 
method we can, but one of the biggest problems with workforce, 
attracting and retaining skilled trades crafts and engineers 
that we need in order to, you know, get them out to the 
waterfronts so we can build these ships and maintain them on 
time.
    Our ships do not do us a lot of good in ports and dry 
docks. They need to be able to respond to the Nation's needs, 
and it is my commitment to make sure that that is aggressively 
pursued and improved.
    Chairman Reed. One of the ironies here is you are competing 
against Mr. Keohane, and I do not think that should be lost 
upon us because we are looking for essentially the same 
dedicated, motivated, skilled young man or woman to go into the 
shipyards as we are to go into the service.
    So, we have to do that. But I can not emphasize enough the 
criticality of accelerating and expanding our shipyards' 
capacity because, you know, it is nice to have a number of x 
number of ships, but when only the fraction of them can go to 
sea, we are fooling ourselves. Thank you very, very much, 
gentlemen. Senator Wicker, please
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Guertin, you 
said in your statement, I believe we need to think and act 
differently in order to fill the naval capabilities that 
protect and enable our Nation's strategic interests and 
economic prosperity. So, talk to us about how we need to act 
differently and be as specific as you can.
    Also, I mentioned in my statement that this Committee, 
through statute, had provided certain authorities that in my 
judgment have not been fully acted on. Would you comment on 
that? Do you need additional authorities to become more 
flexible and nimble?
    Mr. Guertin. Thank you, Senator. An excellent question. 
Goes right to the core of why I think I can make a big positive 
difference to the Navy and Marine Corps.
    Some of the more specific things you asked about, or you 
asked me to comment on was, you know, what exactly does that 
mean? What does that look like? We live in a world now where 
almost everything is software defined or controlled, or even 
the way we build purely physical things is done through tools 
and modeling and numerical analysis done in computers.
    We need to embrace those digital tools used to make these 
systems. Model based engineering is a critical element of 
making sure we can build these things faster, and then also to 
do some of the things I have been doing in my current role in 
operational testing evaluation. How do we test them using 
computers to test things more--in a more automated fashion, 
using digital twins and other tools of that kind?
    There are powerful opportunities to take advantage and we 
need to make sure we bring those into how we do that technology 
development so we could rapidly field capabilities that work 
and can also be built to scale.
    Some of the new authorities Congress has afforded us, 
things like, you know, middle tier of acquisition, rapid 
prototyping, reaching out to nontraditional businesses, those 
are all on the table and I am excited about taking advantage of 
those authorities in order to improve the pace of delivering 
capability to the fleet.
    Senator Wicker. Well, am I anywhere close in saying that 
the Navy has not fully taken advantage of those authorities 
this Committee has provided.
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, I do not have the details on every 
single program as yet, but I would be happy to give you a more 
detailed answers as I get deeper into it.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, we will do that, and also, if 
you need further authorities, we mark up a bill and pass it 
every year. We have a history of doing that for decade after 
decade, and we have a vehicle available to you in that regard. 
Mr. Keohane, the Chairman mentioned in his statement basing 
policies on unfounded allegations which were not helpful.
    I guess I came back even a little stronger in re-
emphasizing that. So, I want to ask you about that. There has 
been a--there has been an effort to just say that there was 
extremism that needed to be rooted out. We had an extremism 
stand down day.
    As far as I am--as I can tell, it turned out that after an 
extensive study and thousands and thousands of man hours, there 
were only about 100 examples in the entire military system with 
all of the services. Do you think that stand down day was a 
valuable use of man hours?
    Mr. Keohane. Well, Senator, I have limited visibility into 
the Department and how that went at the end of the day. 
However, I think certainly extremism is an important issue that 
we always need to and always will be looking at in the 
Department, making sure that we are educating. The smallest 
type of extremism can certainly be problematic.
    Senator Wicker. Do you think it is helpful, though, when we 
are trying to get young Americans from all demographics and all 
economic groups to do as the Chairman and I did decades ago and 
signed up to defend their country, do you think it's helpful to 
send a message that there is a need for extremism stand down 
day?
    Mr. Keohane. Well, Senator, again, I am not familiar with 
how the whole day went. However, I do believe we need to start 
our recruiting earlier and making sure that we do citizenship 
type of activities and have folks focus a little bit more on 
becoming good citizens before they get to a point of extremism 
issues.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, and I acknowledge that this is 
not a program that you came up with. Let me--but let me just 
say, Mr. Chairman, and my time has expired, there is a lot of 
talk about equity.
    It has come to mean and in the regard of this 
Administration, the equal outcome rather than the equal 
opportunity. I am concerned about that, and perhaps on the 
record you might comment. As a matter of fact, I would ask you 
to comment on your views about that issue as you prepare to 
take on this responsibility. I will just let you do that on the 
record.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Thank you, Senator. 
Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Keohane, is 
that how your name is pronounced?
    Mr. Keohane. Keohane.
    Senator Hirono. Keohane. Because it looks distinctly 
Hawaiian to me.
    Mr. Keohane. I get that often.
    Senator Hirono. You get that a lot, don't you?
    Mr. Keohane. I get that a lot.
    Senator Hirono. Because in Hawaiian we would say Keo-ha-ne.
    Senator Wicker. She means that as a compliment.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Keohane. I take it as a compliment.
    Senator Hirono. Yes. So welcome to both of you. To ensure 
the fitness of nominees to serve, I ask the following two 
questions of all nominees who come before any of the five 
committees on which I sit, and these are foundational questions 
I will ask you both.
    Since you became a legal adult, have you ever made unwanted 
requests for sexual favors or committed any verbal or physical 
harassment or assault of a sexual nature?
    Mr. Keohane. No, Senator.
    Mr. Guertin. No, Senator
    Senator Hirono. Have you ever faced discipline or entered 
into a settlement related to this kind of conduct?
    Mr. Keohane. No.
    Mr. Guertin. No.
    Senator Hirono. Mr. Guertin, as you noted in your 
responses, the Navy's infrastructure has suffered from chronic 
underinvestment, and the repercussions are crises like the one 
communities in Hawaii are facing regarding Red Hill, reduce 
naval maintenance capacity for our force, and untenable living 
situations for our servicemembers and their families.
    So, the need to repair our basic facilities is urgent. In 
your prospective position you will be responsible for 
sustainment matters for the Navy. Mr. Guertin, what is the 
impact of underfunding the maintenance of the Navy's 
infrastructure on the sustainable costs and times?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator----
    Senator Hirono. On sustainment costs and times----
    Mr. Guertin. Thank you, Senator. So, if we do not take care 
of how we make our systems to fix our systems, then they are 
less able to do that work effectively. That comes under the 
general context of technical debt, and that is something we 
always have to keep our eye on. But unfortunately, it appears 
that we have let our eye off the ball in that area.
    The reason we have got now these new programs like SIOP and 
other efforts that are going on there in Hawaii to improve that 
infrastructure so we can do a better job of taking care of the 
people that are going to do this work.
    Senator Hirono. So, these are entrenched problems, and one 
would hope that there would be some funding to address these, 
to fix rather, these--the crumbling infrastructure that I would 
say very persistent in all of our services.
    So, what would--are you advocating for--should you get the 
position, would you advocate for more money for the 
infrastructure needs of our services or particularly the Navy?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator is absolutely my intent to go and 
visit these different shipyards and these activities and see 
for myself what their conditions are and talk to the teams that 
are working on these programs like SIOP and find out if they 
are appropriately funded and if we need to come back and talk 
to Congress about getting additional resources, if required.
    Senator Hirono. Well, SIOP--thankfully, it is a 20-year 
program and we have to make sure that we continue to fund the 
modernization, etcetera, of our shipyards. But for example, Red 
Hill had very little to do with our shipyards, and yet these 
were--you know, this is infrastructure built in World War II.
    So, my hope is that the Navy, and indeed our entire 
military, will assess the infrastructure needs to make sure 
that our pipes are not bursting, our electrical systems are in 
place. I would look for you to do that for the Navy.
    Mr. Keohane, in your prospective role as Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, it will 
be imperative for you to examine all ways to improve the 
quality of life of our servicemembers and boost retention and 
recruitment. Both of you have talked about that.
    A top reason servicemembers leave the force, particularly 
women, are they additional challenges a life of uniform service 
has on family planning. If confirmed, what would you do to 
address recruitment and retention concerns across the force? I 
would like you to respond to cryopreservation as a fertility 
tool for servicemembers who could--which they could use if they 
wish to have children in the future.
    That certainly, I would say, that could add to the 
retention and recruitment arguments for our military. So, can 
you--would you support cryo--which, by the way, the British 
armed forces provides to their members?
    Mr. Keohane. Excuse me, Senator. I truly believe that 
providing quality health care to all of our servicemembers is 
certainly critical and important. I believe that we need to 
have everything on the table and look at every option. I would 
certainly be happy to look at that and learn certainly a lot 
more about it, but I do believe that that does and will impact 
our recruiting ability with women.
    Senator Hirono. Yes, and I would ask you to familiarize 
yourself with what the British armed services does. They 
provide this kind of option for women and men in their 
services. I will submit some of their questions for the record, 
Mr. Chairman. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Hirono. Senator 
Mullin, please.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Keohane, you 
said at the beginning in your statement that you want to keep 
everyone and allow anyone that wants to serve, to serve. Is 
that correct?
    Mr. Keohane. That meets our stringent standards, yes, sir.
    Senator Mullin. Underneath the vaccine mandate that was 
installed on August 24th, 2021, as of November 30, 2022, DOD 
has discharged 8,123 servicemembers based on the vaccine 
status. Naval personnel separated based on vaccine status was 
awarded an honorable discharge.
    However, 93.5 percent of our airmen, 85.8 percent of our 
soldiers, 94.1 percent of our marines were given a general 
discharge, denying them the GI Bill eligibility. This, 
obviously, because the Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA, the vaccine 
mandate was rescinded. Would you consider allowing these 
individuals, one, to come back and serve, and two, if not at 
least upgrading them to an honorable discharge?
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Senator. I do understand each of 
the services does have a process for adjudicating any of these 
claims. If confirmed, I would certainly encourage any member to 
petition their individual board to do so.
    Senator Mullin. Would you advocate on their behalf?
    Mr. Keohane. I would advocate on their behalf, sir.
    Senator Mullin. To bring them back into the service?
    Mr. Keohane. I would look at all that. I need to become 
smarter in how the services have adjudicated those individual 
cases. I would be willing----
    Senator Mullin. What you mean by smarter by it. I mean, it 
is pretty clear here. I am not trying to be combatant, I am 
just trying to say, I do not--I am trying to follow that 
clarify, what you are saying.
    Mr. Keohane. I understand each of the services adjudicating 
these cases based on their own policies and procedures. I need 
to get a little smarter certainly on how they came to that 
fruition at the end of the day. But we would be certainly, if 
confirmed, work with the services and your office as well to 
understand better what those cases were and why they are 
different from one another.
    Senator Mullin. Would you support bringing them back into 
the service?
    Mr. Keohane. If they are eligible. If they are eligible by 
the standards that we have set forth, the services have set 
forth, I would.
    Senator Mullin. Okay. Another question for you, in 2018, 
30.5 percent of servicemembers reported being sexually harassed 
and 7 percent reported being sexually assaulted. Had the 
regulations passed in the wake of the murder of Vanessa Guillen 
had an impact on how you would continue prevention work?
    Mr. Keohane. Well, Senator, that topic falls under a 
different office within the P&R portfolio. However, I 
acknowledge we work certainly closely together.
    Senator Mullin. What--it does play a factor in 
servicemembers signing up. As a father of three beautiful young 
ladies who I would encourage all six of my kids to serve, it is 
a concern of mine when you hear 30.5 percent of the 
servicemembers in 2018 had been sexually harassed or 7 percent 
sexually assaulted.
    That is a huge issue, and for you talking about the 
workforce, this is a big issue and a big challenge moving 
forward. Vanessa Guillen's murder obviously brought that to the 
forefront, and we worked hard on making sure we made some 
changes in the bill with the Vanessa Guillen bill and 
ultimately a change moving forward. But I believe this is 
something that you would have to--it would fall in your lap.
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir. I am sure we would work with my--I 
would work with my colleagues on this. Bottom line is, this is 
unacceptable and it is offensive that these are happening.
    I know Secretary Austin has issued recent guidance on a 
number of steps with the military academies, but this issue is 
certainly very upsetting and we certainly need to address it. 
If confirmed, I will address it immediately with my 
counterparts.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you. Last question has either one of 
you reached out to the--I know you guys went through this 
process last year. But has any of you, has either one of you 
all reached out to the new Senators to set up a meeting with 
anyone or a phone call on you all's behalf?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, the legislative affairs team does 
that reach out to the Senators. My understanding is they 
reached out to all members of this Committee.
    Senator Mullin. Did they reach out to your office? I 
checked before I got here and no one had reached out to us. 
That is an issue, because if you are wanting our support, it 
would be a--it would be beneficial to probably reach out to us.
    Because I have this kind of unwritten rule in my office. I 
am not voting for someone that did not take the time to come 
meet with me, because I want to know who I am voting for. With 
that, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Mullin. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to the witnesses, 
thank you for your service. I want to ask Director Guertin a 
question. You and I talked about this a bit already. Last year 
we had in the Committee a lot of back and forth-ing over 
amphibs.
    When we had in the Navy posture hearing, and I think it was 
at the end of April, there had been some churn and a suggestion 
that the Navy and the Marine Corps, and maybe the SecDef or the 
White House was not on the same page with respect to amphib 
requirements that the marines would need.
    At the posture hearing, Admiral Gilday, Secretary Del Toro, 
Commandant Burger said, we are on the same page. You are not 
going to see us diverge. You are going to get a report from 
assume that will validate the requirements. That was in April.
    We got the report in late December, and I thought it was 
going to be like War and Peace sized because it had taken so 
long to get it to us, and it was four pages long. It did say 
that there is a need for 31, which is congressionally directed. 
So, that was good, and it had everybody kind of signed on.
    But I was surprised that it took so long and that the 
analysis, at least what we were given, was so cursory. The 
President submitted to us his budget last week, and the budget 
includes only one LHA. No plan to build an LAPD in the FYDP.
    So, setting aside that budget, you are not responsible for 
that budget, but if you are confirmed, how will you approach 
assessment of the congressionally directed requirements for 31 
amphibious ships?
    Mr. Guertin. So, Senator, it. is not lost on me that this 
controversy about numbers of ships has been exacerbated even 
earlier this week, with OSD weighing in on, you know, how many 
ships were going to be in the budget and what--and that matter.
    But for my efforts, working directly with the Chief of 
Naval Operations and the Commandant of the Marine Corps to make 
sure we have validated requirements and have those, you know, 
pushed through the budget process, make sure we get the right 
numbers of ships that meet the needs of the National Security 
Strategy.
    I am perplexed that this has been so controversial, but I 
am committed to working on that and getting to the root of it, 
making sure we are building the right number of ships that meet 
the requirements of the National Security Strategy.
    Senator Kaine. I look forward to working with you on that, 
and I know other Members of the Committee feel the same way. 
Mr. Keohane, I appreciated our visit yesterday, and one of the 
things we talked about was mental health care, suicide 
prevention. We have had a string of really challenging 
instances in Hampton Roads.
    Sailors connected to the George Washington, which has been 
under a very long refurb, multiple suicides in that portion of 
the fleet. Then a number of sailors who had been assigned 
limited duty status at the Mid-Atlantic Regional Maintenance 
Center on the Norfolk Naval Base, also died by suicide, four 
within about a 45-day period.
    That one caused the light bulb to go off in my head that 
should have probably gone off before. If somebody is in the 
Navy and they have an MOS and they really are trained to do 
this thing, but then they are not doing that job because their 
ship is in a seemingly endless refurb or because of something, 
it might be a broken bone or a pregnancy, they are assigned 
into a limited duty status, and it is unclear exactly when that 
status will end, will they go back to the fleet, will they 
receive a med board and exit the military.
    Periods where people are not doing the thing, they train 
for can lead to some sort of hopelessness or confusion, or what 
is my place. Then that can exacerbate other issues and lead to 
significant mental health challenges.
    Should you be confirmed, talk to me a little bit about what 
you want to do to have appropriate mental health services 
available for all of our military members and their families, 
but particularly maybe some of those who are in a limited duty 
status or in another status where they are not necessarily 
doing what they thought they were going to be doing.
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Senator. So, within the Department 
and under the umbrella of the M&RA shop, there is the military 
and family life counselor program. It is the largest mental 
health counseling program in the Department, 2,600 people 
worldwide.
    The great part of that particular process is an individual 
can go seek counseling on any number of issues without having 
any PII collected on them. So, it frees up that level of burden 
on an individual. I think, if confirmed, I would work with the 
team to promote that better within the Departments, within the 
services out in the field, so people are more aware of that.
    Additionally, I think this is a great opportunity where the 
family programs can step in and offer external or highlight 
other M&AR programs, things like that, that would also get some 
of these servicemembers out and about, out of their box, 
thinking a little bit differently.
    Senator Kaine. I appreciate that. I look forward to working 
with you on it. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Senator Budd, 
please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman, and good morning, 
gentlemen. Director Guertin, assuming for a moment that China 
intends to invade Taiwan in 2027, you know, this may be the 
last year to initiate buys on critical capabilities that could 
make the difference in deterring or denying an amphibious 
assault across the Taiwan Strait.
    So where do you think the Navy can and should assume risk 
in its acquisition process to field these systems more rapidly? 
Are there ways to move faster while still buying down the risk?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, I am a particularly big fan of using 
some of the things I have been successful with and projects 
that I have worked on and led in the past, things like open 
architectures and using modularity to focus the efforts 
necessary for delivering capability and making sure it works 
excellently, and then integrating it into other things that are 
also used.
    As we do that more and more throughout the force and fleet, 
will be able to upgrade and improve those systems as more of a 
matter of course, since that is something that is 
extraordinarily different.
    So, using those kinds of engineering tools in order to put 
those capabilities out where they can be as quickly as possible 
is something I am particularly interested in.
    Senator Budd. Thank you for that. The Navy is making--and 
continue on with you, the Navy is making historic investments 
in munitions and the industrial base, but we are still overly 
reliant on single production lines for some of the most 
critical capabilities, and there is a lot of risk in that. So, 
if confirmed, what will you do to increase the capacity and 
resilience across our industrial base?
    Mr. Guertin. So, Senator, that is another great topic of 
mine. Thank you for both of these questions. One of the things 
that I want to make sure we do more effectively is to use 
competition to improve outcomes, and also to be able to produce 
things with different vendors.
    The best way to do that is to more rigorously apply the 
government's rules on intellectual property so we could share 
the necessary pieces while preserving industry's ability to 
innovate and secure their, you know, golden tickets, if you 
will, but also to use the information coming out of where the 
government has invested its money so we can get more vendors 
into the game of building munitions specifically.
    Senator Budd. Very good, thank you. Mr. Keohane, Fort Bragg 
currently has a waiting list of more than 800 families for 
childcare. We need more child development centers, we know 
that, but they take time to build. So, if confirmed, what would 
you do in the short term to reduce the strain on military 
families?
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Senator. That certainly, I can tell 
you, is an issue dear to my heart as a small business owner 
that plays just as importantly. I think the Department has been 
doing a good job of late and I would expand upon this. They try 
to think outside the box with childcare.
    Not lowering the standards that we expect of our childcare 
centers, but working with the States, either spending money, 
giving money to the States to work with their--to work with the 
facilities within the State to meet our standards.
    I also think that there are other issues such as emergency 
backup care, that could also play an important role for some of 
our military families, especially while PCS or exceptional 
family members. So, there are a number of things that I would 
look forward to working on, if confirmed.
    Senator Budd. We appreciate that and look forward to your 
effort in that. Mr. Chairman, I yield back. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Budd. Senator 
Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed. I appreciate 
you having this hearing. I want to thank the nominees for 
testifying today and for your willingness to serve. So, I want 
to talk--I will talk about childcare, too, in a minute. But 
first, I want to talk about commuting assistance for 
servicemembers.
    So, Mr. Keohane, I would like to ask you about a problem 
facing airmen stationed at Creech Air Force Base and also the 
servicemembers that are stationed in remote areas, rural, 
remote areas.
    They have to commute many miles from the base to where they 
live. Creech has very limited housing nearby, so the vast 
majority of the airmen, well they live in Las Vegas, which is 
about 45 miles away. It is an even longer commute for those who 
have to drop off their kids, and sometimes they utilize 
childcare, sometimes it Nellis Air Force Base, which is on the 
opposite end of town.
    To your knowledge, does DOD have the existing authorities 
to provide these servicemembers with possibly a gas stipend or 
something similar to make their commute less expensive as they 
are dealing with rising costs? Or this is something that you 
might need help from Congress to address? If you are confirmed, 
can I have your commitment to work with me on easing this type 
of financial burden and others on our troops?
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Senator. First and foremost, 
absolutely. If confirmed, I would love to work with you and 
your staff on this issue. I think it is an important issue.
    I think it is one that probably does not get a lot of 
attention because a lot of our facilities are located in remote 
areas, and it is an extreme burden, especially during today's 
economic environment, with high inflation and costs, for our 
servicemembers and their families.
    I am not familiar with the details, to be honest with you. 
I do not think I can give you an answer that you would deserve. 
But if confirmed, I would absolutely like to look into that and 
get back to you.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, and I want to build on what 
Senator Budd was talking about, because not only are the 
commuting costs and availability of affordable housing nearby 
in these remote areas or further away from an urban area. But 
childcare, accessibility and affordability really important.
    So last week, Senator Ernst and I reintroduced our Small 
Business Child Care Investment Act. This is bipartisan 
legislation that would increase the availability of affordable, 
high-quality childcare to families by allowing nonprofits, 
those nonprofit childcare providers to qualify as small 
businesses and participate in all the SBA programs that would 
be available. So, as you are aware, as was mentioned, it is 
really an acute challenge for our servicemembers to access 
affordable and high-quality childcare.
    I know you said this to Senator Budd, but committing to 
finding creative solutions like partnering with loan eligible 
nonprofit childcare providers, other kinds of creative 
solutions, we want to ease the burden for people to serve in 
their transportation, in their housing, and in their childcare. 
Do you have any other suggestions that you might like to share 
with us today?
    Mr. Keohane. Senator, I think you are absolutely right. 
Those are priorities. We need to focus heavily on those. If 
confirmed, I will do so. Again, I think the Department has done 
well the last few years trying to think outside the box.
    Most importantly, not lowering the standards of our 
expectations for taking care of our military families and 
childcare. But certainly, look forward to working with yourself 
and the services as well, and outside entities to try to 
brainstorm what makes the most sense, especially post-COVID.
    I think we really need to understand better perhaps the 
voices of the military families and what they need in this 
environment.
    Senator Rosen. Well, I think this all helps with 
recruitment and retention of a quality people, and their 
quality of their ability to serve our and our Nation and 
protect us. So, really important. I would like to move with the 
time, a little bit of time I have left, over to the submarine 
industrial base capacity and workforce needs.
    So, Mr. Guertin, and I will turn it over to you. This week 
the President announced that Australia is expected to purchase 
at least three, possibly up to five Virginia-class submarines 
in the 2030's. This deal would deepen the AUKUS pact, a 
landmark defense agreement between the United States, 
Australia, and the UK, United Kingdom.
    In addition, this deal sends a healthy demand signal to our 
suppliers all along the sort of submarine industrial base. So, 
construction of Virginia and Columbia-class submarines is 
operating under a schedule dictating that two Virginia-class 
submarines must be delivered per year through 2033 and one 
Columbia-class submarine must be delivered per year beginning 
in 2026.
    Does the U.S. currently have the industrial capacity, the 
skilled workforce, to keep up with this demand and these 
deadlines, especially in light of this new agreement? If you 
are confirmed, how will you address the workforce and capacity 
issue that we might be facing?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, excellent questions. One of the 
things that I want to make sure that I do, if confirmed to the 
position, is to review how we are in terms of timeliness of 
delivery. My understanding is that we have most of the 
industrial capacity to keep up with the laydown, but we are 
really struggling in the workforce area, as we have discussed 
earlier.
    We want to make sure that we are getting these skilled 
trades, new people coming into the workforce, and learning and 
growing, and have these great careers building these amazing 
warships. It is a great opportunity for young people that I 
want to make sure they can find an opportunity to get a part of 
and be a part of something better--bigger than themselves, by 
building these kinds of ships that we need so very much.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you very much. I do not--I can 
tell you, every single committee I am on, every time I testify, 
I hear from a witness. It is always about the workforce, 
people, pipeline. No different here. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Guertin, I want 
to followup on some of the questions that you have had about 
industrial base. It seems to me that's one of the lessons we 
have from Ukraine, is maintaining the industrial base and being 
sure that there are consistent demand signals that will allow 
the private sector to make the investments necessary to have 
the industrial base ready and able when we need them. Do you--
what do you take from Ukraine?
    Mr. Guertin. So, Senator, first of all, watching what is 
happening in Ukraine is a tragedy, and the rigor and fight, the 
patriotic fight that the Ukrainian people are putting up 
against this is amazing. What is also amazing is how fast they 
are burning through munitions.
    If we get an opportunity, if we are forced into an 
opportunity where we have to deny an adversary something we 
want to be a part of, we are going to have to have deep 
bunkers.
    In order to do that, we are going to have to really ramp up 
the quantity of weapons that we have available to us. So, if 
confirmed, I look forward to working with industry to send a 
strong demand signal, and that extends over time, so they know 
how to invest and how to position themselves so they can build 
more affordably and at scale.
    Senator King. Well, the term you used is extend over time. 
Multi-year procurements, it seems to me, is one way to send 
that demand signal. Is that--do you agree?
    Mr. Guertin. Absolutely. My current colleague, Dr. 
LaPlante, Undersecretary for Acquisition and Sustainment, he 
has been doing some excellent work in this area to take 
advantage of some of the authorities the Congress has provided 
in order to get those longer-term deals established.
    Senator King. One of the issues that I am concerned about 
particularly is the transition from the DDG class destroyer to 
whatever the new surface combatant is, to be sure that there is 
not a trough, if you will, of demand, which would cause us to 
lose skilled personnel. You can not, it is very difficult in 
this economy to get them back. So, I commend to you close 
management of that process so that there is not a gap between 
the constructions of the new, of the DDGs, and then moving on 
to the new surface combatant.
    Mr. Guertin. Yes, Senator. Absolutely. We want to make sure 
that we continue that production smoothly from one to the 
other. My understanding is that right now, the two contractors 
that are most likely to be in that business are working 
together with the government, with the Navy, to, you know, bide 
down risk, to improve the understanding of what that design is 
going to be so that they can step right into building them 
effectively when that time comes.
    Senator King. I hope you will support that process.
    Mr. Guertin. Absolutely, yes, sir.
    Senator King. Final question on procurement. In this day 
and age, it seems to me when we buy platforms, we should also 
be sure that we are buying the IP. My vision is a 3D printer on 
every ship. We should not have to go back to the original 
manufacturer to make a part of a valve or a pipe or whatever.
    So as part of the procurement process, we should be buying 
the IP so that we can then do a lot of the maintenance and 
upgrades in our own capacity rather than having to have these 
long refurbishment programs.
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, that is a particular interest of 
mine, is better use of the intellectual property rights the 
government gets when we have contracts with industry. My 
commitment to you is to more aggressively utilize those rights.
    When those rights do not get us that information just 
naturally as a part of the business deal, where we need to 
purchase additional intellectual property, where it is 
something that is related to, you know, unique investments that 
industry might do, that we can have a reasonable discussion 
with industry about how that is in their best interest to make 
sure that their equipment is managed and maintained effectively 
over time.
    Senator King. Thank you. Mr. Keohane, one of the issues--I 
have been meeting with a lot of veterans lately, and one of the 
issues in personnel is the transition out of the military.
    We have the TAP program, but the consensus I am getting is 
that there are gaps, there are problems with it, and the 
suggestion is that the military should, the Pentagon should 
spend as much time and money and effort on transition out as 
they do on recruitment in.
    I hope you will focus on that issue because of the 
disproportionate number of veteran suicide take place in the 
first two or 3 years after separation, and things like 
notifying the State veterans services that people, somebody is 
coming so they can be literally met at the airport. I hope that 
is something you will pay attention to.
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir. Transition assistance and those 
programs have been something I have paid attention to for 
years, been very passionate about. I certainly think they have 
gotten a little bit better, but we need to do a far better job. 
I think that trying to bridge that educational process earlier 
in than waiting till the last few months of someone's time 
within the service is certainly helpful.
    When they return home, perhaps they should be required to 
go to their local armory and pick up their final paperwork. You 
know, do a soft handoff when appropriate. I think we need to 
start thinking a little bit different based on how the world 
really is today.
    If confirmed, I look forward to working with the team, and 
certainly you and your staff as well, Senator, to work on this 
issue.
    Senator King. Thank you. I think this is very important and 
I agree. I commend your attention to it, and we will look 
forward to following up with you.
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, sir.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Blumenthal, 
please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you both for your 
service and welcome to your new jobs. I think you will have 
overwhelming support for these positions, and you certainly 
have mine. Mr. Guertin, thanks to your Connecticut family. I 
hope you will visit Groton, and we can combine our visit with 
one to East Haddam, where your sister is a teacher.
    Public service runs in your family and thank you for your 
service in the Navy as well as now in the Department of 
Defense. You have answered many of my questions already, so I 
am not going to repeat them. But I would like to just focus for 
a moment on, number one, the industrial base, the need to train 
the workforce.
    I am very glad that you are committed to that challenge and 
meeting that challenge. Second, in terms of getting the 
Virginia-class submarine production back on track, making sure 
that we do build two submarines a year. We are a little bit 
late on that timetable. I have raised with you the 
indemnification issue.
    The Navy has reversed 40 years of precedence. I know you 
are not responsible for it. But it refuses to provide for and 
award those already negotiated Block V ships in terms of 
indemnification. I believe that the delays on the Navy 
shoulders, I think that there has to be a resolution to this 
indemnification issue.
    Just want to ask you, if you are confirmed, will you commit 
getting those Block V submarines under contract expeditiously? 
Will you commit to working with the industry to find a mutually 
acceptable path toward resolving that indemnification issue?
    Mr. Guertin. Yes, Senator, you have my commitment on that.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thanks, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Keohane, I know you have already 
addressed the recruiting crisis a lot this morning. I just want 
to register my concerns about it as well. We missed our goals 
last year by almost 15,000 in the Army and the other services 
also struggled in various ways.
    They are shifting around manpower so they looked like they 
hit theirs. I do not think there is any signs that this year is 
going to be better. I worry that the recruiting crisis is soon 
going to become a retention crisis in the years ahead, as you 
do not have a pipeline of young soldiers to replace junior NCOs 
and they--more and more is demanded of them. Can you give me 
your thoughts on what the key causes for this crisis is?
    Mr. Keohane. Thank you, Senator. I think there is probably 
a number of them. Certainly, the last handful of years, our 
military has not been able to get out and be present with a lot 
of communities, with our youth, with our teachers, with our 
coaches. A lot of those typical areas that we would normally 
build that relationship.
    I also think that there have been a number of challenges, 
even with BRAC and others where we have deserts of places 
within the country that we do not have a military presence 
which exacerbates the whole problem in general.
    I do think when it comes to the marketing and so forth that 
has been done traditionally, we need to do a better job. The 
Department needs to do a better job and utilize technology and 
think a different way of reaching out to the youth of today, 
deal with things certainly much differently than I did when I 
was their age.
    Senator Cotton. What role do you think advertising and 
marketing plays in this? The Army has just debuted a new set of 
ads harking back to its 1980's, Be All You Can Be ads. What 
role can different marketing strategies play in trying to 
recruit more young men and women in the military?
    Mr. Keohane. Sure, and I think in this instance, Senator, 
one of the best things to do is also look at the private sector 
and how they are marketing to their potential new employees and 
so forth.
    I think there is a technology aspect that we probably do 
not use, the Department does not use well enough, and that is 
either let's say somebody has been clicking on a number of 
photos of a submarine. Does the Department capture or marketing 
process capture those individual's statistics, and be able to 
push the right marketing materials to them, get them to see if 
they are interested?
    I understand fully that that might require some additional 
approvals from Congress to make sure that we are staying within 
the confines of appropriate handling of information. But 
technology is out there that we need to look at.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. We hear a lot, especially from senior 
uniformed leaders, about a low percentage of young Americans 
are actually eligible to serve in our military. Do you know 
what percentage that is? What percentage of young Americans are 
eligible to serve?
    Mr. Keohane. Senator, off the top of my head, I think it is 
fairly low, probably in the 20's.
    Senator Cotton. Yes, I think that is right, or maybe even 
the teens. I have to say, I think that is too low. I mean, do 
you think that is too low?
    Mr. Keohane. You know, I think, you know, in the macro 
level, it could be right. I have not really looked into it, but 
I know it is--sadly, it is low. It is too low.
    Senator Cotton. I just, I mean, all of our recruits should, 
over time should be honored and celebrated. Maybe my favorite 
recruit of all time, the teenage boys in World War I and World 
War II lied about their age so they could enlist and get a shot 
at the title overseas, and that we should be encouraging as 
much as we can every young American to join and to be eligible.
    I think most of us have probably had experiences of deep 
frustration with the military services throwing up roadblocks. 
You know, a young man who was a top tier college athlete and 
had a knee or a hip injury and recovered, and continued to be a 
top tier college athlete, yet the Army says he is not eligible.
    Or a kid whose parents got divorced when he was 14 and some 
doctor prescribed some mood-altering drug for 6 months, and 5 
years later he is told it is still disqualifying. I am just 
saying, like we can not have people who are, you know, half 
blind or fat or flat footed or what have you in the military.
    I guess in the second category, they can get in shape and 
join. But I think we should look at ways to try to make more 
young men and women eligible, especially those who are trying 
to serve. So can I just get your commitment that you will look 
at--this tendency that the service has, it is almost like a 
boast I think, that like only 14 percent or only 21 percent are 
eligible.
    Again, like, it can not be serious felons or people half 
blind, but we need to do a better job of opening up a bigger 
pool of recruits, especially when it comes to problems that are 
temporary or manageable, like old injuries or old psychological 
diagnoses when kids were, you know, mere adolescence.
    Even kids that have had some run ins with the law, you 
know, nonviolent or juvenile run ins with the law. I think we 
need to make a pool bigger so we got a bigger pond to fish in. 
Can I get your commitment on that?
    Mr. Keohane. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Thank you both, gentlemen.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. In fact, let me 
associate myself with your remarks. I think they are right on 
target. Thank you. Senator King, please.
    Senator King. I wanted to followup, Mr. Keohane, on 
recruitment and retention. So, we had a very interesting 
hearing yesterday with General Saltzman, the head of the Space 
Force.
    They are doing something that is unheard of in the 
military, which is lateral hires. They are bringing people in 
at a higher level because of the expertise that they need. The 
other thing they are doing is having a relationship with the 
reserves so people can do their private sector job but then are 
available when needed given particular skills.
    Is that something that could be applied more broadly in 
order to deal with this recruitment problem?
    Mr. Keohane. Senator, I think it is absolutely--everything 
should be on the table. I think that as our military changes, 
the way in which we fight wars change, we need to have the 
flexibility, we need to modernize some of our policies so that 
if you have a certain MOS, perhaps you can move back and forth 
easily between the Reserve and Active Duty. But we need to make 
sure that we have everything on the table to understand how we 
can better pull those folks in based on what the needs and 
availability are.
    Senator King. Following up on Senator Cotton's questions, 
it may be that the physical requirements are not as important 
if you are going to be a cyber warrior.
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir.
    Senator King. We need to be thinking about that. On the 
issue of recruitment, I have seen data recently that it used to 
be that recruitment and people joining the military were fairly 
evenly distributed geographically across the country.
    That has changed dramatically in the last 10 years, where 
the military has become essentially Southern and Southwestern. 
One of the problems in the Northeast is there are no bases 
anymore so people do not grow up, young people do not grow up 
seeing, in my hometown of Brunswick, we do not see people with 
naval uniforms on anymore, and I think that is a real problem.
    I hope in your recruitment efforts, you think about this 
geographic dispersal, concentration actually, which is, I 
believe, not healthy. We do not want our military to be a 
regional body. So, can you give me some thoughts on this?
    Mr. Keohane. Senator, I completely agree. I have heard you 
speak in the past as well about the unintended consequences of 
BRAC and exactly what you just described. I think we certainly 
need to do a better job of making sure that our military is 
more familiarized to our communities. There is probably a 
number of ways we can do that, but certainly technology needs 
to be one of them.
    Senator King. But you can also direct recruitment efforts 
in certain areas. In Buffalo, New York or in Cleveland, as 
opposed to the Phoenix and Atlanta.
    Mr. Keohane. Yes, sir. I think, again, everything should be 
on the table. We need to really look at this with fresh eyes 
and figure how we can better reach the population that we need.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Warren, 
please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Guertin, you 
have been nominated to manage the Navy's acquisition programs. 
In other words, how the Navy buys things to build and to 
maintain the fleet.
    So, let's start with something easy. When the military 
makes a purchase, should it pay whatever the company demands, 
or should we be using taxpayer money only to buy things where a 
price is justified by costs and we receive a quality product on 
time?
    Mr. Guertin. Well, Senator, the nature of the contracts for 
the things that we use to buy this military equipment 
absolutely should be rigorously applied. You know, we should 
make sure we are paying for the things we get. There is a 
variety of different contract types, and they all have their 
ways of managing costs to make sure that the work is equitable 
and fair.
    Senator Warren. Right. But I just want to be sure that we 
are saying the same thing, that what we are looking for before 
we agree to pay for anything is that the price is justified by 
cost and that we have a right to expect on-time performance. 
Basically, right?
    Mr. Guertin. Basically, right. But, Senator, let's make 
sure we are not talking about, you know, different kinds of 
animals. There is fixed price contracting, in which case I 
completely agree with you. Then when we are--there is more 
technical risk, where the outcome is more uncertain, then that 
may be a better place to put cost plus contracting, where the 
cost might not still be----
    Senator Warren. Okay, but that is still justified by 
costs----
    Mr. Guertin. Absolutely.
    Senator Warren. They are just different ways to calculate 
it. That is all I am getting at. Because one of the tools that 
DOD uses to get things made faster is what is called progress 
payments.
    That is where I want to ask more. So rather than pay for a 
project when it is fully complete, a company that is getting a 
progress payment gets advanced funding before they have finish 
building a ship or a plane so that they can cover the large 
capital investments that they need to make in order to do the 
job.
    I understand that. One of the ways that DOD responded to 
the pandemic was to hide the rate of advanced payments to 
contractors so they got even more upfront. Now, let's be blunt. 
There was no data to suggest that that was necessary, but I 
understand that DOD was trying to help workers and the defense 
industrial base withstand an unprecedented emergency. I get 
that.
    But DOD is conducting a study now to determine how to 
reform progress payments now that the pandemic has eased. So, 
do you agree that if the study shows that increased payments 
did not help DOD, that we should reevaluate using this method?
    Mr. Guertin. Well Senator, as you might imagine, my current 
role, it is all about the data. We want to analyze using data 
and make sound decisions based on actual information. So first 
of all, I think you are really on to something. I bet there is 
a pony in there somewhere. But I think we should make sure we 
have the data that backs it up.
    Senator Warren. Okay. As long as we will act on those data, 
the data show the progress payments are not really helping us 
here. You know, I do not say this very often, but I think the 
Trump Administration had a really smart idea for how to make 
progress payments work even better.
    They were sick of programs being behind schedule and over 
cost so they proposed tying the size of the progress payment to 
program performance and then sharing cost and pricing data. 
Companies that deliver on time and provide all the data would 
get their money up front.
    The industry hated President Trump's reform proposal and 
they managed to defeat it, but I think it is worth reviving. 
So, let me ask, would you support conditioning or lowering the 
progress payment rate if it means that ships and airplanes will 
be cheaper and are more likely to arrive on time?
    Mr. Guertin. Senator, first and foremost, I am all about 
getting the best possible deal for the American people, no 
question. I am also very interested in innovative business 
models that get us to that end. That sounds like a great 
opportunity, and I would love to explore it.
    Senator Warren. All right. You know, look, failing to 
conduct proper oversight to control costs hurts our national 
security, and it hurts our ability to build the force we need 
to support our National Defense Strategy.
    We need to ensure that our acquisition policies are getting 
a good deal for the military and not just lining the pockets of 
giant contractors. Let's work together on that. Thank you. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your testimony. Thank you for your willingness to serve 
the Nation, and the men and women who defend us every day. I 
know that is an effort not only individually, but your families 
also.
    We look forward to moving with your nominations, and 
certainly I think you have my support, and with that, I will 
adjourn this morning's hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 10:49 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

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    [Prepared questions submitted to Mr. Ronald T. Keohane by 
Chairman Reed prior to the hearing with answers supplied 
follow:]
                        Questions and Responses
                       duties and qualifications
    Question. What is your understanding of the duties and functions of 
the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs 
(ASD(M&RA))?
    Answer. The duties and functions of the Assistant Secretary of 
Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs are to serve as the principal 
advisor to the Secretary of Defense, Deputy Secretary of Defense and 
Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness, with 
responsibility for overall policies and procedures of Total Force 
manpower, personnel and reserve affairs to include the Army National 
Guard, Army Reserve, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, Air National 
Guard, Air Force Reserve and Coast Guard Reserve. As part of the 
critical duties of this position is the responsibility to 
tivecoordinate across the Department of Defense, the Joint Staff, 
Combatant Commands, the Military Services as well as Congress and other 
appropriate stakeholders to set the conditions for a sustainable, 
seamlessly integrated and complementary total force.
    Question. What background and experience do you have that qualify 
you for this position?
    Answer. For the better part of my 30-year professional career I 
have focused my efforts on developing and managing a wide variety of 
quality of life programs that directly and positively impacted our 
servicemembers and their families. Programs ranging from drug demand 
reduction, , transition assistance, SHARP, ESGR, mental heath 
counseling and support of the wounded, ill and injured population, 
among others, have provided me with a deep, diverse and relevant skill 
set. Under the Obama administration I had the honor to serve as the 
Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Military Community and Family 
Policy (MC&FP) where I had oversight responsibility for quality-of-life 
program policy issues which are even more critical in today's 
environment.
                 major challenges and priorities (ron)
    Question. In your view, what are the major challenges confronting 
the ASD(M&RA), and how would you address them, if confirmed?
    Answer. As the world recovers from the COVID-19 pandemic the 
Department of Defense is faced with a number of major challenges. Among 
the top issues the Department faces are those which fall within the 
purview of the M&RA, including recruitment and propensity to serve, as 
well as retention issues including compensation, spouse employment, and 
access to affordable childcare.
    If confirmed as the ASD (M&RA) I would work closely with the 
experts in the ASD offices, the Services as well as other stakeholders, 
including Congress, to address each of these important issues.
                    civilian control of the military
    Question. If confirmed, how would you use your position to adhere 
to and further the fundamental principle of civilian control of the 
armed forces?
    Answer. I believe civilian control is a fundamental tenant of our 
successful democracy, and it cannot just be present at the highest 
level. If confirmed I will support and advance the principle of 
civilian control of the armed forces in my words and actions. I will, 
as I always have, seek the advice and counsel of military and career 
civil servants, as well as fellow appointees. But in the end, I realize 
that decisions must be made and oftentimes those are to be made by the 
civilian leaders of the Department. If confirmed, I will not only 
support the Secretary and Undersecretary for Personnel and Readiness in 
their decisionmaking, I will make those decisions for the M&RA, the 
easy and difficult ones, with the advice and counsel of our military 
advisers.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure your inclusion in the 
discussion, debate, and resolution of U.S. defense and national 
security issues?
    Answer. If confirmed, I would ensure the ASD(M&RA) maintains an 
active presence and voice on all matters related to the policies and 
procedures of the Total Force manpower, personnel and reserve affairs 
for which I will have oversight. Further, I will strive to maintain an 
ongoing dialog with my counterparts across the Department of Defense, 
the Joint Staff, Combatant Commands, and the Services while always 
providing the best honest and candid advice to the Under Secretary, the 
Deputy Secretary, and the Secretary of Defense.
                    personnel policy implementation
    Question. If confirmed, what personnel policies and processes would 
you implement to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of human 
resources management--both military and civilian--across the 
Department?
    Answer. If confirmed, I would give significant attention to the 
long-term recruiting challenges that face the Department. While I 
understand that it is primarily the responsibility of the Military 
Services to recruit and train, I recognize that there are roles that 
OSD must perform to better enable success. I believe that we should 
review the tools that we have to increase propensity to serve in order 
to acheive our long-term recruitment goals. Similarly, I believe that 
civilian public service is critical to our national security, and is 
also an often overlooked career field. It deserves additional focus and 
outreach.
    Within each of the areas above, technology provides us with 
excellent tools to observe and process mass amounts of data to better 
understand our workers and recruits' needs and wants and better compare 
our efforts to those of other organizations, both government and 
commercial.
    Question. What is your understanding of your responsibility, if 
confirmed, to inform and consult with this Committee and other 
appropriate committees of Congress, on the implementation of personnel 
policies directed by law?
    Answer. I understand that if confirmed, I not only have a 
responsibility to the legislative branch to inform and consult with 
Congress and all of the appropriate committees, I consider it smart 
business to do so. Afterall, this body holds the direct line to the 
American public and their input through you, coupled with your 
experience on these issues is vital to any successful policy that I 
might implement.
                     non-deployable servicemembers
    Question. In your view, should servicemembers who are non-
deployable for more than 12 consecutive months be subject either to 
separation from the service or referral to the Disability Evaluation 
System, as is current Department policy?
    Answer. I am aware that all servicemembers are expected to be 
deployable and the Department's focus is to maximize the lethality and 
readiness of the joint force. It is my understanding that the 
servicemembers who are considered non-deployable for more than 12 
consecutive months require a retention determination from their 
Military Department. These individuals should be evaluated on a case-
by-case basis to determine if continued service is appropriate. Not to 
do so may adversely impact the force readiness and place an undue 
burden on the remainder of the force.
    Question. In your view, under what circumstances would the 
retention of a servicemember who has been non-deployable for more than 
12 months be ``in the best interest of the service''?
    Answer. I believe it is appropriate to evaluate each individual on 
a case-by-case basis. Factors to consider include the individual's 
ability to perform his/her military duties as well as the likelihood 
that the servicemember will resolve the condition or reason resulting 
in the non-deployable status. I believe we must also consider the 
servicemember's role during a deployment. For example, a wounded 
warrior who continues to serve as a cyber analyst may not be eligible 
to deploy, but could still fulfill their combat mission. This, among 
other potential factors, is why the individual's circumstances must be 
considered on a case-by-case.
    Question. The Department of Defense policy on in-service 
transitions for transgender servicemembers provides that ``any 
determination that a transgender servicemember is non-deployable at any 
time will be consistent with established Military Department and 
Service standards, as applied to other servicemembers whose 
deployability is similarly affected in comparable circumstances 
unrelated to gender transition.''
    Please provide an example of a ``comparable circumstance'' that 
would be used to determine deployability of a transgender 
servicemember.
    Answer. Speculation on my part would not be appropriate due to the 
highly individualized nature of this policy. If confirmed, I will 
ensure our policies promote dignity and respect for all servicemembers.
    Question. On average, how long should a commander of a 
servicemember undergoing a gender transition expect that servicemember 
to be non-deployable?
    Answer. As every case is highly individualized, I do not think it 
is appropriate to speculate. However, if confirmed, I will address this 
issue with the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs and 
other medical professionals in the Department.
                        diversity and inclusion
    Question. In general, what is your assessment of the diversity of 
the U.S. Armed Forces and of the DOD civilian workforce?
    Answer. I believe that diversity is a strength and directly 
contributes to readiness. I understand that although the Department is 
fairly diverse across the board, racial/ethnic minorities and women are 
still underrepresented among the Armed Forces' top leadership, compared 
with the servicemembers they lead. However, I understand that the 
Department and the Military Services are implementing initiatives to 
support a more representative force in the years to come.
    Question. According to researchers at the RAND Corporation, African 
American and Hispanic youth are less likely to be eligible for military 
service than white and Asian Americans. Why do you think this is the 
case?
    Answer. As I am unfamiliar with the RAND reports, I am not able to 
provide a thorough response. However, if confirmed, I commit to working 
with my staff and the Services, to learn what has already been done in 
this area and to identify any areas where we can make adjustments to 
ensure we are drawing from the wealth of diversity that today's youth 
have to offer.
    Question. In your judgment, should military accession and 
commissioning standards be modified to achieve racial diversity goals? 
Please explain your answer.
    Answer. I believe the Department's focus needs to remain on 
ensuring we have the best qualified military in the world while always 
working toward a diverse and representative force that reflects our 
society.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you increase diversity and 
inclusion in the armed forces, and work toward the goal of ensuring 
that the Nation's military, at all levels, especially within the senior 
officer ranks, reflects the broad diversity of the nation?
    Answer. The future of the All-Volunteer Force and evolving nature 
of warfare requires a Total Force comprised of diverse backgrounds and 
skill sets to effectively support future warfighting missions. If 
confirmed, I will strive to advance the Department's mission and the 
continued need to recruit, develop, and retain top talent.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you increase diversity and 
inclusion within the Department's civilian workforce, especially at the 
senior General Schedule and Senior Executive Service levels?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will assess the current representation at 
the senior General Schedule and Senior Executive Service levels, as 
well as current Department initiatives designed to improve diversity at 
these levels. As necessary, I will seek to expand these initiatives to 
promote greater representation in the Department's senior civilian 
ranks.
    Question. Do you believe diversity goals should be prioritized over 
merit and performance when considering who should be appointed to 
senior military and civilian positions?
    Answer. I believe the Department must recruit and retain a 
qualified civilian workforce with the right critical skillsets to 
achieve the Department's mission, and that qualification standards for 
our military force must remain unmatched in the world. Civilian and 
military qualifications and standards should ensure we are able to 
recruit the best and brightest, while also ensuring our civilian 
workforce and armed forces are diverse and representative of American 
society.
    Question. If confirmed, what specific steps would you take to 
increase geographical diversity in the armed forces, especially from 
areas of the country and local communities that are currently 
underrepresented?
    Answer. If confirmed, I commit to working with my staff, and the 
Services, to learn what has already been done in this area and to 
identify any areas where we can make adjustments to ensure we are 
drawing from the wealth of diversity that today's youth have to offer.
                               extremism
    Question. The current DOD policy on ``Handling Dissident and 
Protest Activities Among Members of the Armed Forces'' prohibits 
servicemembers from ``active participation'' in organizations ``that 
advocate supremacist, extremist, or criminal gang doctrine, ideology, 
or causes; including those that attempt to create illegal 
discrimination based on race, creed, color, sex, religion, ethnicity, 
or national origin . . . .''
    What is your view of the prevalence and effect of extremism within 
the armed forces?
    Answer. I believe that the majority of our servicemembers and 
civilians serve our Nation honorably--that includes their conduct after 
they leave the military. However, any instance of extremist behavior 
within any organization (no matter how frequent) degrades the overall 
effectiveness of that organization. Within the armed forces, without a 
doubt, good order and discipline is compromised when any extremist 
behavior or activity presents itself. My personal and professional view 
is there is no place for any extremist behavior or activity within the 
armed forces.
    Question. If confirmed, what would you direct the Military Services 
to do to eliminate extremism within the ranks?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will meet with the service leaders--
civilian, officers and senior enlisted advisors to learn how they 
presently maintain good order and discipline at all times within the 
ranks, and where we can help. I will work with my staff and leadership 
to ensure that the Department continues to focus on keeping the 
Military Services free from extremist behavior and activity, while 
maintaining the rights and freedoms for all servicemembers.
                       military service academies
    Question. What is your assessment of the diversity of cadets and 
midshipmen in the Military Service Academies? What measures can be 
taken to increase diversity in the Academies?
    Answer. Diversity within our Services is critical. The Military 
Service Academies produce the future leaders of our military; 
therefore, it is essential the cadets and midshipmen represent the 
diversity of our great country. If confirmed, I will work with the 
Services to explore new marketing, recruiting, and community partnering 
methods to increase the diversity of Military Service Academy 
applicants.
    Question. What is your assessment of the efficacy of the policies 
and processes in place across the Military Service Academies to prevent 
sexual assault and sexual harassment, and to ensure that cadets and 
midshipmen who do report assault or harassment are not subject to 
retaliation--social ostracism and reputation damage--in particular?
    Answer. Any form of sexual assault or harassment hinders mission 
accomplishment and damages unit cohesion. The Military Service 
Academies, institutions among the top colleges and universities in the 
country, should be held to the highest standards of conduct and 
integrity. If confirmed, I will work with Military Department 
leadership to make sure that they monitor such behavior to ensure the 
Military Service Academies swiftly and justly address all forms of 
inappropriate behaviors.
    Question. What is your assessment of the efficacy of suicide 
prevention programs at each Military Service Academy?
    Answer. I am aware of recent media reports and understand the 
Department and Services take this tragic issue very seriously. It has 
also reached epidemic levels in the United States as suicide rates 
increased by 30 percent from 2000-2018. If I am confirmed, I will 
assess the efficacy of efforts taken to date and engage with the 
Defense Suicide Prevention Office and Service leaders to look at ways 
to strengthen suicide prevention programs.
    Question. Do you believe the current 5-year minimum Active Duty 
service commitment for Military Service Academy graduates is sufficient 
return on investment for the U.S. military and the American taxpayer?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the current Active Duty service 
commitment for service academy graduates has remained unchanged for 
many years. If I am confirmed, I will analyze the current obligations, 
and verify our Nation is receiving a high return on this important 
investment of taxpayer dollars.
    Question. In your view, do the Military Service Academies 
contribute to the pool of military officer accessions commensurate with 
their attendant costs? Why or why not?
    Answer. I am unfamiliar with the specifics costs to operate the 
Military Service Academies, especially in comparison to other accession 
program costs. However, I am familiar with the excellent reputation of 
the Service Academies. If confirmed, I look forward to learning more 
about the Service Academies' costs and the contributions made by this 
particular pool of officers.
    Question. What is your view of service academy graduates delaying 
Active Duty service in order to pursue careers in professional sports?
    Answer. I'm aware of this issue generally from my past experience 
in the Department of Defense. If confirmed, I look forward to better 
understanding the existing policy and recent legislative enactments in 
this area to determine the appropriate way forward for the Department, 
Services, cadets/midshipmen, and the American tax payers.
            senior reserve officers' training corps (srotc)
    Question. In your view, does the Senior Reserve Officers' Training 
Corps (SROTC) program remain a viable source of officer accessions?
    Answer. While I am not currently well versed in the details of 
accessions via SROTC, the geographically diverse nature of the SROTC 
program should provide an officer corps with the wide variety of 
demographics, backgrounds, and experiences necessary to ensure the 
continued readiness of the Military Services. If confirmed, I will 
review the SROTC program to ensure it is an effective and viable source 
for officer accessions.
    Question. What is your assessment of the diversity in our ROTC 
programs? What measures can be taken to increase diversity in the ROTC?
    Answer. A diverse force begins at accessions, and SROTC gives the 
Services the broadest ability to tap into diverse talent across the 
country. If confirmed, I will review the SROTC programs and ensure the 
Department continues to focus on increasing the diversity of the 
officer corps to take full advantage of their talents through 
opportunities to serve. In addition, I will strive to improve the DOD's 
marketing, recruitment, and community partnership efforts to encourage 
a more diverse applicant pool.
    Question. In your view, should the Military Services continue to 
operate SROTC units at colleges and universities that fail to meet 
their minimum annual commissioning requirements? If not, please explain 
the factors you believe should be used to determine which units should 
be terminated.
    Answer. I do not have access to the Department's information 
regarding this issue. If confirmed, I will review the matter and will 
look for ways to get the most out of current SROTC programs without 
losing geographical or cultural representation.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you modify the SROTC scholarship 
program to attract the top talent that our armed forces need to meet 
national defense?
    Answer. As I currently understand, we have SROTC programs at some 
of the best colleges and universities in the United States, providing 
an opportunity to reach top talent. If confirmed, I look forward to 
working with Congress and the Services to ensure SROTC scholarship 
programs are maximally effective at attracting top talent for the 
Nation.
                         military compensation
    Question. Do you agree that the primary purpose of a competitive 
military pay and benefits package is to recruit and retain a military 
of sufficient size and quality to meet national defense objectives?
    Answer. Yes. The Military compensation package must primarily be 
competitive in order to sustain the recruitment and retention of the 
high caliber men and women willing to serve the Nation in uniform in 
order to reach and maintain our national defense objectives.
    Question. What is your assessment of the adequacy of the current 
military pay package in achieving this goal?
    Answer. While my view into the Department's statistical data is 
limited, current indications are the overall military compensation 
levels compare favorably with the private sector. However, if 
confirmed, I would remain open to increased compensation levels in 
coordination with the overall balancing of these costs against other 
critical warfighting and readiness needs of the Force.
    Question. What changes, if any, would you recommend to the current 
military pay and benefits package, if confirmed?
    Answer. If confirmed I would work with my team of experts along 
with the Services to explore alternatives that could positively impact 
servicemembers and families, such as more and better access to family 
care, both child and elder care. Listening to our families is critical 
to any review and recommendation, but I believe that in this post-COVID 
environment, families have changed their priorities and we need to be 
able to adjust benefits to respond.
    Question. What specific recommendations do you have for controlling 
rising military personnel costs, including entitlement spending?
    Answer. Military personnel costs equate to roughly one-third of the 
Department's overall budget. Maintaining a balance between personnel 
costs and other critical warfighting needs is difficult but necessary 
for maintaining our Total Force, while meeting recruitment goals. One 
key element of stabilizing military personnel costs, including 
unemployment costs is maintaining high retention rates. From what I 
understand, the Services have been fairly successful in this area, but 
can always improve and this gets back to my point about listening to 
the families and their needs in terms of benefits restructuring. This 
could be a way of controlling some larger costs.
                     recruiting and retention (ron)
    Question. In your view, what are the main reasons that less than 30 
percent of 17 to 24-year-olds are eligible for military service, and 
how would you propose increasing the size of that pool?
    Answer. I believe several factors contribute to the low percentage 
of 17-34 year olds who are eligible to serve. Among the top reasons for 
ineligibility are obesity and medical reasons as well as past drug use 
and criminal records. I understand that the Army and maybe the other 
Military Services have programs for recruits to ``get in shape'' and 
eat healthier in order to meet the enlistment standards. I think this 
is an important step worth exploring, but we must also conduct outreach 
sooner in the recruitment process. If confirmed, I will work with the 
experts in my office, the Military Services as well and other 
stakeholders, to include Congress, to look into the possibility of 
outreach programs to help America's youth return to a more fit and 
helthy lifestyle, while also increasing our outreach in vital education 
programs as well, such as STEM programs. ASVAB scores are also 
contributors to the low percentage of persons eligible to serve. All of 
these issues deserve our long-term attention, and if confirmed they 
will be an area of focused effort for me.
    Question. Similarly, why do you believe that the propensity of 
youth to serve continues to drop and is at its lowest level (about 10 
percent according to DOD data) in years?
    Answer. I believe the drop in propensity to serve among our youth 
is due in large part to the lack of relatability with our 
servicemembers and military life in general. The impact of COVID-19 has 
compounded the issue as servicemembers were unable to have a presence 
with youth, teachers, coaches, clergy, etc. that would have assisted in 
exposing the communities to the military culture.
    Question. Do you believe that non-native English speakers are 
disadvantaged in qualifying for military service by the current testing 
process?
    Answer. I am not familiar enough with the intimate details of the 
current testing processes for non-native English speakers. If 
confirmed, I will fully examine the process to ensure non-native 
English speakers are not disadvantaged.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you address any such 
disadvantages to increase the pool of eligible and interested youth?
    Answer. I believe its imperative that our Armed Forces are a 
reflection of the society for which they serve to protect and defend. 
If confirmed, I would work with experts in my office as well as the 
Military Services to ensure we are recruiting from a broader range of 
pools across the United States, geographically, demographically and 
economically. I see this position as removing barriers to anyone that 
is able and willing to serve.
    Question. In your view, should existing medical and other 
qualification standards be reconsidered to accommodate youth willing to 
enlist for service in certain high-demand specialties, such as remotely 
piloted aircraft pilots or the cyber workforce?
    Answer. I believe, given todays recruiting challenges along with 
the changing landscape of cyber warfare and other technological 
advances, that it would be wise to at least consider all aspects of the 
accessions process.
         military accessions vital to national interest program
    Question. In your view, did the benefits of the Military Accessions 
Vital to National Interest Program (MAVNI)--recruiting and utilizing 
those with critical skills vital to the national interest--outweigh the 
costs to the Department associated with conducting security, 
suitability, and reliability screenings of applicants?
    Answer. I am unfamiliar with the specific benefits and/or 
challenges of the MAVNI program.
    If confirmed, I commit to gaining a better understanding of this 
program to determine how similar programs may contribute to our 
national interests. I believe any decision on this program must be 
centered on maintaining the national security of our country.
    Question. In your view, was the program effective in helping the 
Department to recruit for certain hard-to-fill specialties?
    Answer. I am unfamiliar with the specific details of the MAVNI 
program. If confirmed, I commit to better understanding the program to 
determine if this program should be reinstated to assist recruiting 
efforts by enlisting individuals to fill hard-to-fill specialties. I 
believe any decision on the MAVNI program or any program with similar 
intent must be centered on maintaining the national security of our 
country.
    Question. If confirmed, would you recommend reactivating the MAVNI 
program and authorize the enlistment of new applicants? If so, what 
conditions would you impose on program operations, particularly as 
regards applicant security, suitability, and reliability screening?
    Answer. I am unfamiliar with the specific benefits and/or 
challenges of the MAVNI program.
    If confirmed, I commit to gaining a better understanding of this 
program to determine whether this program should be reinstated, and 
what security, suitability and reliability screenings should be imposed 
to ensure the security of our national interests. I believe any 
decision on this program or programs of similar intent must centered on 
maintaining the national security of our country.
                           reserve components
    Question. In your judgment, what has been the effect of increased 
operational tempo on Reserve component recruiting and retention?
    Answer. I am not familiar with the effect increased operational 
tempo has had on Reserve component recruiting and retention, but if 
confirmed I will work to ensure the Department is able to recruit and 
retain and effective Reserve force.
    Question. In your view, do the Reserve components serve as an 
operational reserve, a strategic reserve, or both? In light of your 
answer, should the Reserve components be supported by increased 
training, improved equipment, and higher levels of overall resourcing 
for readiness?
    Answer. In my view, the Reserve components are both essential to 
the operational force and provide strategic depth for the Nation. If 
confirmed, I will work to ensure that the Reserve components receive 
the training, equipment, and resources needed to be ready to meet 
immediate requirements while preparing for future challenges.
    Question. In your view, what actions can be taken to improve 
permeability between the Active and Reserve components?
    Answer. Offering a seamless way for individuals to move between the 
Active and Reserve components can enhance the recruitment and retention 
of highly skilled personnel. If confirmed, I will review the current 
policies governing this process and collaborate with the Senate Armed 
Services Committee to improve transitions between the two components.
    Question. In your view, are the current requirements for becoming a 
Joint Qualified Officer appropriate for Reserve component officers? If 
not, how should requirements be revised to better meet the needs of 
Reserve component officers?
    Answer. I am not that familiar with this process overall. However, 
it is my understanding that since most Reserve component officers 
perform duty periodically they have found the experienced-based joint 
duty assignment path more practical for fulfilling joint credit 
requirements.
    Question. In your view, is the current professional military 
educations system appropriate for the Reserve components? If not, what 
changes would you recommend?
    Answer. Professional military education plays a critical role in 
cultivating our leaders. If confirmed, I will review the state of the 
professional military education system for the Reserve components to 
ensure there are processes that allow for the continuous improvement of 
our people and the education system itself.
                     military quality of life (ron)
    Question. If confirmed, what qualify of life and morale, welfare, 
and recreation (MWR) programs would you consider to be a priority?
    Answer. I am a firm believer, from first hand knowledge as a 
business owner, that childcare is a critical and increasingly important 
benefit. With that, I believe that emergency or backup care for 
military families is also needed. Beyond that direct knowledge, I will 
rely heavily on the voices of military families concerning the 
prioritization of their needs, as their willingness to continue to 
serve directly impacts that overall readiness of our force.
    Question. What metric would you apply in determining which MWR and 
quality of life programs should be sustained or enriched and which 
should be eliminated or reduced in scope as ineffective or outmoded?
    Answer. As I have previously mentioned, I believe a review of 
current benefits, including quality of life and MWR benefits, is 
warranted. That review should be heavily influenced by the voices of 
our military families, Active and Reserve. Additionally, while many MWR 
programs are self or almost self-sustaining, we are still stewards of 
the resources. I believe its imperative to consider the sustainability 
of each program, while ensuring it is a value add to the overall 
compensation package for our servicemembers and families.
              military family readiness and support (ron)
    Question. What do you consider to be the most important family 
readiness issues for servicemembers and their families?
    Answer. I believe the most important family readiness issue for 
servicemembers and families is access to quality, affordable childcare.
    Question. If confirmed, what specific actions would you take to 
ensure that military families are provided with accessible, high-
quality childcare, at an appropriate cost?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work with the experts in my office, 
along with the Services, to conduct an ongoing review of accessibility 
and affordability to high-quality childcare. It's imperative the 
Department consider innovative ways to expand access such as 
implementing emergency backup care, much like leading private industry 
does.
 department of defense education activity, dod schools, and dependent 
                           education (dodea)
    Question. What is your assessment of the overall quality of DOD 
schools?
    Answer. In my view, the overall quality of DOD schools is extremely 
high. According to the most recent National Assessment of Educational 
Progress, DODEA runs the best school system in the Nation. I will 
continue to support excellence in our schools for military families.
    Question. In your view, are DODEA's administrative overhead costs, 
meaning its funding and employment above the school level, comparable 
to those found in high-quality public-school districts in the United 
States?
    Answer. From my time as DASD for Military Community and Family 
Policy, I learned that DODEA operates in a manner similar to that of 
both a State Education Agency and a Local Education Agency and saw the 
start of its ``Restructuring for Student Achievement'' which was 
intended to focus more resources at the region and school level. If 
confirmed, I will look at their progress and ensure we are continuing 
to provide students with the best education possible, while remaining 
good stewards of the public resources made available to them.
    Question. Should the eligibility requirements for military 
dependents to attend DOD schools be modified in any way, in your 
opinion? If so, what modifications would you propose, if confirmed?
    Answer. I understand that DODEA recently updated its eligibility 
policy for the first time in over 10 years. I look forward to reviewing 
the policy and learning about the law that the policy implements.
    Question. What lasting impacts, if any, do you believe the COVID-19 
pandemic will have on the way DOD schools are run and how DOD 
dependents who attend those schools learn?
    Answer. I understand DODEA operated very effectively during the 
COVID-19 pandemic and never shut-down their schools after the pandemic 
hit. I strongly support the continued inclusion of adaptive curriculum 
and technology to reinforce and improve educational continuity and to 
provide individualized instruction to meet students' learning needs 
with what they need no matter where they are located.
    Question. Do you believe that DODEA should further expand its 
capabilities to deliver online education in the future?
    Answer. It is my understanding that DODEA is currently conducting a 
pilot program pursuant to section 589D of the Fiscal Year 2021 National 
Defense Authorization Act that expands access to its virtual school to 
a larger student population. If confirmed, I will learn more about the 
pilot program and work with DODEA to direct resources and education 
tools to reach its students whether in the classroom or in a remote 
setting.
    Question. In your view, can these programs be improved, and if so, 
what would you recommend?
    Answer. I am aware that DODEA is currently operating a pilot 
program to expand its ability to provide online education to military 
dependents around the world. If confirmed, I look forward to learning 
about the pilot program and how it helps our military-connected 
students.
    Question. What is your assessment of the preparedness of DOD 
schools to respond and react appropriately to active shooter 
emergencies?
    Answer. Sadly, all schools must remain prepared for active shooter 
situations, to include DODEA schools that operate on installations. 
Maintaining a key awareness of emergency procedures and conducting 
regular training and drills are vital to success. If confirmed, I will 
continue to support all programs intended to ensure student safety.
    Question. How do you assess current class sizes (student to teacher 
ratios) throughout DODEA schools, and do you recommend they be 
adjusted? If so, why?
    Answer. I do not have access to the Department's data on this 
matter in order to make such an assessment at this time. However, I 
believe that we must continue to invest in our military families 
through our schools, which includes suitably staffing teaching 
requirements, and I look forward to supporting this goal, if confirmed.
    Question. Are you confident that DODEA has in place the policies 
and processes to ensure that:
    Allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment by a student in 
locations under the jurisdiction of DODEA are properly investigated?
    Answer. I am aware that DODEA, as with all executive branch 
agencies, is required to take reasonable steps to eliminate unlawful 
discrimination in its schools, programs, activities, and workplaces 
under Executive Order 13160, ``Nondiscrimination on the Basis of Race, 
Sex, Color, National Origin, Disability, Religion, Age, Sexual 
Orientation, and Status as a Parent in federally Conducted Education 
and Training Programs.'' If confirmed, I will continue the work to 
ensure that the policies and procedures are in place to address 
allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment, and to hold 
offenders accountable.
    Question. Information documenting such misconduct, if 
substantiated, is recorded in the permanent record of the offending 
student and that any school to which that student subsequently 
transfers is made aware of that information, as appropriate?
    Answer. I believe information on substantiated misconduct should be 
included in a student's record and transferred to a new school, if or 
when that occurs. If confirmed, I will review DODEA's process and take 
appropriate action as/if necessary.
    Question. If confirmed, what actions would you direct to ensure 
that DODEA takes all appropriate actions to hold its teachers, other 
employees, and students accountable for acts of sexual assault, sexual 
harassment, and unlawful discrimination?
    Answer. The elimination of all types of harassment, assault, and 
discrimination is a perpetual goal that we must strive to achieve in 
every corner of the Department, including DODEA schools. If confirmed, 
I will review the training materials and resources that DODEA provides 
to teachers, staff, and students to guarantee the proper utilization of 
existing systems, and to ensure that offenders are held responsible 
when any allegation is substantiated.
    Question. In your view, should the quality and availability of 
local public education factor into Department and military service 
basing decisions?
    Answer. Yes. Quality and availability of local public education are 
absolutely essential to military family readiness. If confirmed, I will 
work with the Services to understand how this should factor into basing 
decisions.
    community support for military families with special needs (ron)
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that servicemembers 
with special needs family members relocate to new duty stations where 
services are available to address the special needs of members of that 
family?
    Answer. The Exceptional Family Member Program (EFMP) provides 
critical support to over 100,000 Active Duty military families. 
Ensuring servicemembers with special needs family members have access 
to the appropriate resources is critical to maintaining readiness. In 
order to do so effectively, the unique and specific needs of that 
family must be considered when new assignments are being determined. 
Not only does the Department, along with the individual Services, have 
the responsibility of ensuring necessary services are available at the 
new duty station, it must insure such assignments do not have a 
negative impact on the servicemembers career path. If confirmed, I will 
work with the experts in my office, along with the Services and other 
stakeholders, to include Congress, to conduct a thorough review of the 
program using all available data, studies and reviews to make the 
necessary improvements and provide the support and resources our 
families need. Providing a consistent, accessible, and reliable process 
for all servicemembers with special need family members, regardless of 
their branch of service, is critical and long overdue.
    Question. If confirmed, what policies will you implement to assist 
these families in obtaining these services at their new duty station?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will make it a priority to work with the 
Services as well as other stakeholders, to include Congress, to 
expeditiously conduct a thorough review of policies and procedures and 
implement needed changes. While I cannot address any new policies at 
this moment, I can attest to my unshaken commitment to our EFMP 
participating families.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure outreach to those 
military families with special needs dependents so they are able to 
obtain the support they need?
    Answer. If confirmed I will work with the experts in my department, 
the Services, as well as across P&R to develop and execute a 
comprehensive awareness campaign that not only makes servicemembers 
aware of the EFMP services available to them but would serve as a ``one 
stop shop'' for guidance and assistance.
                    morale, welfare, and recreation
    Question. If confirmed, what challenges do you foresee in 
sustaining MWR programs in the constrained fiscal environment of the 
Department?
    Answer. I believe it is important to support all aspects of quality 
of life programs for our servicemembers and their families. If 
confirmed, I would continue to prioritize quality of life programs that 
promote the well-being and resilience of servicemembers and their 
families. Providing the greatest possible access to MWR programs 
supports and enhances military family readiness, and ultimately mission 
readiness.
                commissary and military exchange systems
    Question. What is your view of the need for modernization of 
business policies and practices in the commissary and exchange systems?
    Answer. I am aware that the retail business environment has seen 
evolutionary changes over the last decade. It is my understanding that 
online ordering and delivery, especially since the pandemic, have been 
a paradigm shift for the commissary and exchange systems. If confirmed, 
I will ensure the commissaries and exchanges have the tools and 
resources to deliver the benefit most efficiently to our servicemembers 
and their families.
    Question. What are the most promising avenues for change to achieve 
these modernization goals?
    Answer. I believe that concentrating future efforts on a structured 
collaboration and cooperative efforts is the optimal way to gain 
additional savings, synergies, and efficiencies. If confirmed, I will 
work to improve the benefit and provide savings, as a tool to improve 
recruiting and retention of course, and also to deliver nutritious 
options to servicemembers and families. I believe every dollar invested 
in the commissaries has a direct benefit to the overall readiness of 
the Force.
    Question. What should the Department do to make the commissary 
system more self-sustaining?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the commissaries, in-line with 
the Secretary of Defense's Taking Care of Military and Family Members 
memo, will maintain at least a 25 percent savings on grocery purchases. 
If confirmed, I will evaluate the savings and efficiencies created as a 
result of the memo and will work to sustain the required savings. 
Sometimes the question is asked: ``is the commissary a business, or a 
benefit?'' The answer seems clear--it is a benefit that is best served 
when operated as an efficient business. We owe our Military families 
all the support we can give them while they serve our country; and we 
owe it to the tax payers to ensure our commissaries are run as 
efficiently as possible.
    Question. What is your view of proposals to consolidate, eliminate, 
or privatize commissaries and exchanges in certain areas where they are 
duplicative of services readily available at reasonable cost in the 
community?
    Answer. Although I do not know all of the details, I am aware that 
the Department has looked at this before--numerous times--and 
determined each time that merging the resale organizations does not 
provide an economic benefit and is not feasible. If confirmed, I look 
forward to learning more about the studies already done in this area 
and will consider any new information that merits another look.
            department of defense civilian workforce matters
    Question. How would you describe the current state of the 
Department's civilian workforce, including its morale and the 
Department's ability to successfully recruit and retain top talent?
    Answer. I do not have sufficient details at this time to adequately 
comment on the civilian workforce's morale, or the Department's ability 
to successfully recruit and retain top talent. If confirmed, this will 
be one of my top priorities to ensure the civilian workforce is 
supported to achieve the Department's mission. I believe this should be 
a coordinated effort with other DOD leaders, and I will work closely 
with them to address workforce needs, as appropriate.
    Question. In your judgment, what are the biggest challenges facing 
the DOD in effectively and efficiently managing its civilian workforce?
    Answer. I do not have enough information at this time to thoroughly 
comment on the challenges facing the DOD in managing its civilian 
workforce; however, considering the Department's complex and technical 
mission, I expect that the competition for highly skilled talent and 
maintaining up-to-date skill sets for the existing workforce are major 
challenges. If confirmed, I will work closely with stakeholders across 
the Department to assess civilian workforce needs, and develop the 
plans and strategies necessary to ensure DOD is effectively and 
efficiently managing this critical workforce segment.
    Question. What is your view of both the favorable and adverse 
effects that borrowed military manpower can have on participating 
military personnel and on the performance of civilian functions?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Department's Total Force 
policies are aimed at providing local commanders and managers a maximum 
amount of flexibility within the law. Additionally, these policies are 
aimed at ensuring military personnel execute military essential 
functions in order to maximize the operational capability of the 
Department.
    Question. Would there be any value to the Department, in your view, 
in eliminating the moratorium on the use of A-76 public/private 
competitions that has been in effect since 2009?
    Answer. It is my understanding that if the moratorium were lifted, 
the Department could find value in exploring areas where there has been 
significant commercial change and development since 2009. However, it 
is my understanding that the Department is not currently postured to 
take advantage of the lifting of the moratorium.
    Question. The Fiscal Year 2016 National Defense Authorization Act 
required the Department of Defense to implement a probationary period 
of at least 2 years for new civilian employees. How does this 
requirement benefit the Department, in your view?
    Answer. I have not been involved with the Department's 
implementation of the probationary period provision. If confirmed, I 
will review probationary policies to assess their effectiveness toward 
meeting DOD civilian workforce objectives.
    Question. In your view, what role should the Office of the 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower & Reserve Affairs play in 
establishing the ``return to work'' policies for DOD civilians who have 
been operating in a ``telework'' environment for lengthy periods of 
time due to the COVID-19 pandemic?
    Answer. I believe the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense 
for Manpower & Reserve Affairs should play a major role in the 
deliberate development of the appropriate ``return to work'' and 
``telework'' policies for the Department, with input from other DOD 
leaders and employees, as appropriate. I believe such efforts must 
consider lessons learned from the pandemic as well as workplace options 
necessary to balance support for employees while achieving mission 
results.
    Question. In your view, what challenges will this ``return to 
work'' effort engender and how would you address each of these 
challenges, if confirmed?
    Answer. As for many organizations, I believe the ``return to work'' 
effort will be to ensure the Department can be an employer of choice 
while continuing to achieve its mission with excellence. If confirmed, 
I will conduct the necessary assessment to address this and other 
challenges, and develop strategies to address each one.
                            cyber workforce
    Question. What is your view of the appropriate mix between the 
uniformed cyber workforce and civilian employees?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Department is committed to 
improving Total Force Management to ensure that compelling non-military 
needs are met with the most cost-effective mix of civilian employees 
and contract services. I believe that there is no ``one size fits all'' 
workforce. If confirmed, I will work to ensure the Department's 
approach to defining the ``right'' workforce mix (to include the cyber 
community) depends on the Department's current missions and goals. 
Effective Total Force Management should give the Military Services (and 
their subordinate organizations) the flexibility to determine how best 
to meet the missions that are being asked of them.
    Question. In your view, how effective is the Cyber Excepted Service 
Workforce authority under section 1599f of title 10, United States 
Code, in meeting the requirements for a highly qualified and competent 
cyber workforce?
    Answer. I do not have enough information to comment on the 
effectiveness of the Cyber Excepted Service. I understand that the DOD 
Chief Information Officer (CIO) has responsibility for overseeing its 
implementation, and if confirmed, I will work with that official to 
ensure the Department is meeting requirements for a highly qualified 
and competent cyber workforce.
    Question. What actions would you take, if confirmed, to mitigate 
any gaps between cyber workforce capacity and capability?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work with officials in the office of 
the DOD CIO to mitigate any cyber workforce capacity and capability 
gaps. I believe this would involve assessing the skills of the existing 
workforce, identifying future positions and skills requirements, and 
developing strategies to address capability gaps, if any.
                       technical workforce (ron)
    Question. In your view, what are the pros and cons of having Active 
Duty military personnel (as compared to civilian employees) trained and 
working as scientists, engineers, software coders, and in other 
technical positions across the DOD research, development, and 
acquisition enterprise?
    Answer. Wide-ranging qualifications and expertise among Active Duty 
military personnel is an asset to the capability of the fighting force. 
Such diversity of skills adds to the Department's overall strength and 
ability to be flexible in an ever changing world. However, maintaining 
the lethality and readiness of the Department's fighting forces must 
remain the highest priority.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that the directors of 
DOD science and technology reinvention labs (STRLs) have the civilian 
workforce management tools they need to shape their science, 
technology, and engineering workforces?
    Answer. I recognize that there are unique needs in supporting a 
highly qualified workforce with these desired talents. We must be 
flexible to accommodate these needs.
    If confirmed, I will work with the experts in my office along with 
the Military Departments and other stakeholders, to include Congress, 
to ensure adequate resources are available and the necessary policy 
infrastructure is maintained to recruit, develop and retain this 
important workforce.
                     senior executive service (ron)
    Question. Given that competent and caring leadership is one of the 
most significant factors in shaping a high-performing DOD civilian 
workforce, if confirmed, what factors and characteristics would be most 
important to you in selecting candidates for appointment to the Senior 
Executive Service?
    Answer. If confirmed, ensuring the selection of Senior Executive 
Service candidates who demonstrate the ability to comprehend and manage 
complex issues and organizations will be critical. Of equal importance 
is one's ability to lead with empathy, respect and the willingness to 
invest in growing the skills and abilities of all team members to 
ensure the Department is committed to growing and nurturing the next 
generation of leadership.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that SES under your 
authority are held accountable for both organizational performance and 
the rigorous performance management of their subordinate employees?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will ensure that members of the SES under 
my authority have clearly defined and measurable organizational, 
management and performance standards for themselves and their 
workforce.
                      acquisition workforce (ron)
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure the maximum use of 
AcqDemo personnel flexibilities provided by Congress to improve the 
quality of the Department of Defense's acquisition workforce?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work with my collegues supporting the 
acquisition workforce to facilitate maximum use of AcqDemo personnel 
flexibilities.
    Question. In your view, in what ways can DOD better train military 
personnel to be acquisition professionals?
    Answer. In order to better train military personnel, to include 
acuiqistion professionals, the military must continue to innovate and 
grow training curriculum and technology training platforms to ensure 
DOD has the most lethal and ready force.
    Question. In your view, what role should the Office of the 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Manpower & Reserve Affairs play in 
developing, executing, and overseeing such training?
    Answer. The Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Manpower & Reserve Affairs ensures civilian personnel and military 
personnel policy aligns with providing the highest level of 
administrative support.
    Question. How can acquisition workforce management policies be 
modified to make leaders accountable for cost overruns on procurement 
contracts?
    Answer. Acquisition workforce management policies can be tested and 
reviewed to look for additional ways to make leaders accountable for 
cost overruns on procurement contracts.
    Question. In your judgment, what factors should program offices 
consider in determining which tasks are best accomplished by civilian 
employees, military personnel, or support contractors?
    Answer. Commanders at all levels should consider unit readiness, 
complexity of task and continuity of work when determining which tasks 
are best accomplished by civilian employees, military personnel, or 
support contractors.
    Question. Does the DOD have a metric for workload per acquisition 
employee in order to baseline the current needs, as well as to 
determine the adequacy of the size of the workforce (in comparison to 
projected workforce needs for future years)? If so, how does that 
compare to the current size of the acquisition workforce?
    Answer. I believe the DOD puts measures in place to get metrics for 
workload. Each position duty description has qualification standards 
that can be rated against for performance. In addition, manpower 
provides studies to determine the required size of the workforce based 
on current and future mission sets. If confirmed, I can work with the 
Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment to determine 
the current size of the workforce and ensure that the acquisition 
workforce is sized appropriately to be able to sustain its current and 
future missions.
    stem educational opportunities for military dependents (ron) sbs
    Question. In your view, what role should the Military Departments 
play in supporting STEM educational opportunities for military 
children?
    Answer. Many of the men and women of our Armed Forces are highly 
trained in the areas of science, technology, engineering and 
mathematics. Some participate in the Office of the ASD(M&RA) program, 
called STARBASE, which supports STEM educational opportunities for 
civilian youth. This program may be a model for a new program which 
specifically supports military children.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you work with the Department of 
Defense research and development organizations to increase STEM 
educational opportunities for children of military personnel?
    Answer. The DOD STARBASE program, run out of the office of the 
ASD(M&RA), is a program where civilian children interact with military 
personnel to explore and observe STEM applications as they relate to 
our every day world. If confirmed, I will work with the experts in my 
office to explore how this program may be expanded to increase STEM 
educational opportunities for military children.
laboratory, science and technology, and test range stem personnel (ron)
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure the maximum use of 
personnel flexibilities provided by Congress to improve the quality of 
the Department of Defense's STEM workforce?
    Answer. The Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Manpower & Reserve Affairs can ensure civilian personnel and military 
personnel policy aligns with providing the highest level of 
administrative support to ensure the maximum use of personnel 
flexibilities to improve the quality of the DODs STEM workforce.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure that 
such personnel flexibilities can be employed at the lowest appropriate 
level?
    Answer. Centralized control and decentralized execution is a core 
tenant of the military's ability to operate in any environment. I will 
ensure that where feasible, flexibilities are employed at the lowest 
appropriate level through empowering my team and delegating.
         stem educational opportunities for military dependents
    Question. In your view, what role should the Military Departments 
play in supporting STEM educational opportunities for military 
children?
    Answer. To the greatest extent possible Military Departments should 
be supporting STARBASE, which introduces fifth grade students from low-
income families to STEM.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you work with the Department of 
Defense research and development organizations to increase STEM 
educational opportunities for children of military personnel?
    Answer. If confirmed, I would work with the Reserve Integration 
team to lead more efforts similar to STARBASE, as well as programs to 
support internships with industry partners, to ensure we are continuing 
to increase STEM educational opportunities.
                   congressional oversight (ron) djg
    Question. In order to exercise legislative and oversight 
responsibilities, it is important that this Committee, its 
subcommittees, and other appropriate committees of Congress receive 
timely testimony, briefings, reports, records--including documents and 
electronic communications, and other information from the executive 
branch.
    Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, and on request, 
to appear and testify before this Committee, its subcommittees, and 
other appropriate committees of Congress? Please answer with a simple 
yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
provide this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate committees 
of Congress, and their respective staffs such witnesses and briefers, 
briefings, reports, records--including documents and electronic 
communications, and other information, as may be requested of you, and 
to do so in a timely manner? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
consult with this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate 
committees of Congress, and their respective staffs, regarding your 
basis for any delay or denial in providing testimony, briefings, 
reports, records--including documents and electronic communications, 
and other information requested of you? Please answer with a simple yes 
or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
keep this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate committees of 
Congress, and their respective staffs apprised of new information that 
materially impacts the accuracy of testimony, briefings, reports, 
records--including documents and electronic communications, and other 
information you or your organization previously provided? Please answer 
with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, and on 
request, to provide this Committee and its subcommittees with records 
and other information within their oversight jurisdiction, even absent 
a formal Committee request? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
respond timely to letters to, and/or inquiries and other requests of 
you or your organization from individual Senators who are members of 
this Committee? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
ensure that you and other members of your organization protect from 
retaliation any military member, Federal employee, or contractor 
employee who testifies before, or communicates with this Committee, its 
subcommittees, and any other appropriate committee of Congress? Please 
answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.

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    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
                             mental health
    1. Senator Kaine. Mr. Keohane, you noted during your testimony the 
importance of Military Family and Life Counselors (MFLC) as a key 
component of combatting the mental health crisis in addition to 
supporting suicide prevention efforts, however it has come to our 
attention that there is a shortage of 700 MFLCs. I've recently become 
aware of a bill aimed at addressing the shortage of MFLCs, particularly 
license portability across State lines, which already applies for 
Department of Defense (DOD) medical providers and Tricare contractors, 
but not for non-medical counselors. Additionally, the Department of 
Veterans Affairs (VA) also authorizes license portability for providers 
who work at their hospitals and clinics. This could be one common sense 
solution for addressing access to mental health care. Do you see any 
challenges or concerns with this proposal to help expand access to 
MFLCs?
    Mr. Keohane. While I am not aware of a specific number associated 
with the shortage of MFLCs, I am aware that the Department has 
experienced critical behavioral health demand-supply challenges. I 
believe that solutions which strengthen the Department's flexibility 
and capacity to connect servicemembers and their families to non-
medical counselors should be considered.
                        access to care in japan
    2. Senator Kaine. Mr. Keohane, we've received several reports of 
DOD civilians in Japan, particularly those working for DODEA, that are 
currently facing serious barriers to accessing healthcare. If 
confirmed, how would you work within DOD to address policies that fall 
under other assistant secretaries of defense (ASD) but that have 
significant impact on programs and policies under Manpower and Reserve 
Affairs' (M&RA) purview?
    Mr. Keohane. Although I am not familiar with the details, it is my 
understanding that the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Manpower and Reserve Affairs (M&RA) has been fully engaged with the 
Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness (P&R), and the 
ASD for Health Affairs, with respect to the civilian access to health 
care matter in Japan.
    If confirmed, I will engage directly with my colleagues within the 
Office of the Under Secretary of Personnel and Readiness (P&R), as well 
as with other organizations outside of P&R, on all issues and policies 
that fall under other P&R ASDs and offices, or other organizations 
outside of P&R, but have significant impact on programs and policies 
under M&RA's purview.
                   non-deployable assignment and care
    3. Senator Kaine. Mr. Keohane, as discussed during our office call, 
mental healthcare and suicide prevention are two of my top priorities. 
One contributing factor that I am considering is how the Services are 
addressing the needs of vulnerable populations, such as servicemembers 
on limited duty. For example, it came to my attention during visits to 
the Mid-Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center following the suicides of 
4 sailors that Navy manning policy allows for a 60 percent increase in 
the assignment of personnel (30 percent for limited duty and 30 percent 
for pregnancy/post-partum) but does not address the additional 
resources needed to support a population that requires specialized time 
and attention. How do you plan to assess and address these factors 
should you be confirmed?
    Mr. Keohane. If confirmed, I will work directly with my counterpart 
in the Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Health Affairs 
to ensure that necessary action is taken to provide timely access to 
behavioral health resources needed to support vulnerable populations, 
such as servicemembers on limited duty.
                              commissaries
    4. Senator Kaine. Mr. Keohane, I commend the administration for its 
support of commissaries. With the Defense Commissary Agency (DeCA) 
headquartered in Virginia, it not only provides well-paying jobs in one 
of the most economically distressed areas of Virginia, but it helps to 
address food insecurity among our servicemembers. If confirmed, what 
measures of effectiveness/measures of performance will you use to 
ensure that our commissaries are addressing food insecurity challenges?
    Mr. Keohane. If confirmed, I will work with DeCA leadership to 
provide efficient and convenient delivery of a benefit that enhances 
quality of life and readiness for military servicemembers, retirees, 
and disabled veterans. I will also work with Department leadership to 
ensure DeCA remains a valuable resource for military personnel and 
their families, offering healthy food options at a significant cost 
savings (at least 25 percent). Additionally, I will encourage DeCA to 
continue education efforts focused on the value and savings generated 
by shopping the local commissary. Finally, I will keep a close watch on 
DeCA's customer satisfaction survey results to ensure they are 
maintaining the level of customer service our military personnel and 
their families deserve.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                    military family life counselors
    5. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Keohane, I am sure you're well aware of 
the suicide problem within our military and DOD's recently released 
report on suicide prevention. Last year, Senator Lisa Murkowski and I 
introduced the Don Young Arctic Warrior Act to alleviate some of the 
hardships faced by our servicemembers in Alaska. Both the Arctic 
Warrior Act and the DOD's new study addressed servicemembers' access to 
counseling services. Right now, Military Family Life Counselors (MFLCs) 
provide confidential, non-medical counseling to servicemembers and 
their families but they are limited to doing so only in States where 
the provider is licensed. MFLCs are in high demand in Alaska so much so 
that they cannot meet demand. We can ensure more servicemembers and 
families have access counseling by allowing license reciprocity, which 
would allow a MFLC licensed in Montana to provide service to 
servicemembers and families in Alaska. If you are confirmed, will you 
work to ensure license reciprocity for MFLCs?
    Mr. Keohane. I believe it is important to ensure servicemembers 
have access to non-medical counseling services, particularly in 
isolated locations like Alaska. If confirmed, I will ensure that the 
Department continues to explore ways to facilitate access to MFLCs.
                          recruiting veterans
    6. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Keohane, the U.S. military's current 
recruiting crisis is well-documented, with the Army missing its 
recruiting goal by 25 percent last year and the other branches barely 
meeting theirs. DOD has cited health issues, criminal records, low 
ASVAB [Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery] scores, and a lack 
of interest in military service as some of the recruiting barriers 
Services are currently facing. While I agree that we must work to meet 
the manpower goals by bringing new recruits into the military, I 
believe we must also seek to re-engage veterans who have since left the 
service to bring them back. One program I would like to highlight is 
the Marine Corps Reserve's new Marine Innovation Unit, which has 
successfully recruited veterans with strong consulting, technology, 
venture capital, and startup backgrounds back to the service in a 
Reserve capacity to work on some of the Marine Corps' toughest 
problems. Do you think a focus on recruiting veterans is a 
complementary effort to other DOD-wide recruitment strategies?
    Mr. Keohane. It is my understanding that the Services continue to 
explore several different approaches to help improve recruiting 
outcomes. It is also my understanding that veterans have always been a 
big component in the Department's recruiting efforts. I believe that a 
focus on veterans in DOD's recruiting efforts is a force multiplier and 
is complementary to ongoing recruiting efforts.
                     recruiting shortfall responses
    7. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Keohane, the Army deserves some credit for 
developing its Soldier Prep Course, which took recruits otherwise 
precluded from serving because of test scores and weight, addressing 
those shortcomings in a military environment, and ultimately producing 
several thousand recruits qualified to attend basic training. The Navy 
is taking a different approach by dropping its recruit quality 
standards to the lowest legal level. Of the 77 percent of youth 
unqualified for military service, 11 percent are only overweight; 1 
percent have an aptitude deficiency. It seems the Army's methodology is 
better aligned to moving people from disqualified for service to 
eligible without lowering the standard. What are your impressions of 
Service efforts to address recruiting shortfalls?
    Mr. Keohane. I believe the Services have pulled out all the stops 
and are laser focused on ensuring there are sufficient people in the 
force to meet the missions required under the National Defense 
Strategy. I am aware that the Services have worked together, and 
independently, to explore how best to improve recruiting outcomes. It 
is my understanding that, like the Army did, the Navy plans to 
implement a ``Sailor Preparatory Course'' that is rooted in best 
practices by the Army and still ensures those individuals enlisted are 
qualified for Service in their chosen ratings.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Eric Schmitt
              personnel appointment adjudication criteria
    8. Senator Schmitt. Mr. Keohane, in reviewing your advance policy 
question (APQ) responses, one answer struck me. The Committee asked, 
``Do you believe diversity goals should be prioritized over merit and 
performance when considering who should be appointed to senior military 
and civilian positions?'' Your response contains 69 words, yet does not 
clearly articulate your position. Please answer the question with a 
simple ``yes'' or ``no.'' Do you believe diversity should be 
prioritized over merit and performance when considering senior military 
and civilian appointments?
    Mr. Keohane. No. I believe merit and performance are primary. 
However, I do believe diversity efforts are very important; diversity 
in all forms, including at the leadership level, will help the 
Department achieve the best and brightest military and civilian 
workforce to accomplish its critical mission.
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    [The nomination of Mr. Ronald T. Keohane was reported to 
the Senate by Chairman Reed on February 8, 2024, with the 
recommendation that the nomination be confirmed. The nomination 
was confirmed by the Senate on March 6, 2024.]

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    [Prepared questions submitted to Honorable Nickolas H. 
Guertin by Chairman Reed prior to the hearing with answers 
supplied follow:]
                        Questions and Responses
                                 duties
    Question. Section 8016 of Title 10, United States Code, states the 
Assistant Secretaries of the Navy shall perform such duties and 
exercise such powers as the Secretary of the Navy may prescribe and 
that the principal duty of the Assistant Secretary of the Navy for 
Research, Development, and Acquisition (ASN (RDA)) shall be the overall 
supervision of research, development, acquisition, and sustainment 
(including maintenance) matters of the Department of the Navy.
    What is your understanding of the duties and functions of the 
ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. Under 10 U.S.C.8016, the Assistant Secretary of the Navy 
for Research, Development, and Acquisition (ASN (RDA)) is responsible 
for the overall supervision of research, development, acquisition, and 
sustainment (including maintenance) matters of the Department of the 
Navy (DON). ASN (RDA) serves as the Service Acquisition Executive for 
the DON with the authority, responsibility, and accountability for all 
acquisition functions and programs within the Department, and for 
enforcement of Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and 
Sustainment (USD (A&S)) procedures. As such, ASN (RDA) represents the 
Department of the Navy to USD (A&S) and to Congress on all matters 
relating to acquisition policy and programs, establishes policies and 
procedures, and manages the Navy's research, development, acquisition, 
and sustainment activities in accordance with governing statutes, 
acquisition regulations, Department of Defense policies and 
instructions, and Department of the Navy policies and instructions.
    Question. What recommendations, if any, do you have for changes in 
the duties and functions of the ASN(RDA), as set forth in section 8016 
of title 10, United States Code, or in Department of Defense 
regulations pertaining to functions of the ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. In 2018, Congress wisely added duties related to 
sustainment and maintenance of Naval weapon systems. If confirmed, I 
look forward to examining how that transition is progressing and to 
reviewing the other statutes and regulations, then recommend changes 
(if any) to the Department that may warrant consideration.
    Question. If confirmed, what additional duties, if any, do you 
expect will be prescribed for you?
    Answer. If confirmed, I expect the Secretary of Defense and the 
Secretary of the Navy to assign me duties and functions commensurate 
with the ASN (RDA) position, and others they deem appropriate.
    Question. Do you believe that there are actions you need to take to 
enhance your ability to perform the duties of the ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. I believe that the Naval acquisition community is well 
positioned to transform the way technology is quickly transitioned from 
idea to prototype to scalable quality products for the fleet and force. 
As a part of that, if confirmed, I intend on continuing to press the 
government/industry/academia team to innovate to more quickly deliver 
affordable and effective capability.
                    major challenges and priorities
    Question. In your view, what are the major challenges that you 
would confront, if confirmed?
    Answer. The most pressing issue appears to be in the public and 
private shipyards to quickly and affordably build and maintain the 
fleet. Also, if confirmed, I also intend on examining the foundations 
of how designs are instantiated to position the Naval acquisition 
community to respond to maximize the time platforms are able to be 
deployed, to quickly integrate changes in capability needs, or to 
flexibly adapt game-changing technologies in platforms, weapons, 
sensors, combat management systems across all operational domains.
    Question. If confirmed, what plans do you have for addressing these 
challenges?
    Answer. I intend, if confirmed, to invigorate a sense of urgency 
throughout the acquisition community and to empower all elements of the 
team to think and act differently to bring about the transformation 
that is needed to outpace our pacing challenges to overcome shortfalls 
in warfighting performance and, empowered by appropriate authorities 
from Congress--to deliver game changing capability.
    Question. If confirmed, what management actions and timelines would 
you establish to address these problems?
    Answer. The first step in any leadership position like this is to 
take stock of the team and listen to what they think their problems 
are. I have ideas too that, if confirmed, I will use to evaluate what 
they have to say, but their inputs must be taken in and valued in order 
to gain trust and engender a spirit of collaboration. Coupled with this 
will be to ensure I have deep and honest relationships with the 
Commandant, the CNO and most importantly, the Secretary of the Navy on 
which to build openness, honesty and trust.
    Question. If confirmed, what broad priorities will you establish 
and how will you measure progress in achieving these priorities?
    Answer. As you might surmise from my past leadership initiatives 
and research, I intend, if confirmed, to take a hard look at the way 
the Navy and Marine Corps thinks and acts on establishing open business 
and technical architectures with industry, government labs and academic 
researchers. The Naval acquisition team must nurture fruitful 
relationships while preserving the opportunity for bringing in new 
ideas and designs throughout the portfolio. This balancing act is 
something that the Naval team has had some success in, but appears not 
to have fully embraced across all programs. Also, a clear message to 
industry needs to be sent that the Naval acquisition environment is 
business-friendly, while also being a demanding customer that will act 
on the best interest of the American Taxpayer as a primary 
responsibility. As taxpayers themselves, they should expect nothing 
less.
                        relations with congress
    Question. If confirmed, what actions would you take to sustain a 
productive and mutually beneficial relationship between Congress and 
the Office of the ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. If confirmed, it is my intention to be open and honest with 
Congress first and foremost. If you ask me to appear before you, I will 
make haste to do so. If you want someone from the Naval acquisition 
team to come brief you, I will see to it that you get them. If there is 
information that you want to see from the team, I will see to it that 
you get it, consistent with executive branch obligations. If there are 
delays in getting you any briefings or information, or if there is new 
data that substantially impacts prior discussions, I will be forthright 
about it and be as responsive as possible. Last, I will make sure that 
for any testimony given that there are no acts of retaliation against 
members of the Naval acquisition team and that they will be protected.
                                 budget
    Question. If confirmed, by what standards would you measure the 
adequacy of the Navy's funding for the programs under your purview?
    Answer. I would measure the adequacy of the Department's budget to 
support the Navy and Marine Corps team based on how it supports the 
National Strategic Objectives set forth by the President of the United 
States and the Secretary of Defense. Fundamental to this would be an 
assessment on how the budget provides the weapons, systems, platforms, 
and readiness enablers to the men and women in the Navy and Marine 
Corps to successfully carry out the mission this Nation asks them to 
execute. If confirmed, I would work closely with the Secretary of the 
Navy, the Chief of Naval Operations (CNO), and the Commandant of the 
Marine Corps (CMC) to ensure our investment accounts provide affordable 
and effective capabilities to meet Combatant Commander mission.
                              acquisition
    Question. If confirmed, what would be your plan for improving Navy 
acquisition activities?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will assess the operations of the 
Department of the Navy research, development, and acquisition 
enterprise in order to make recommendations for improving acquisition 
activities. I will make recommendations to the Secretary of the Navy as 
necessary.
    Question. What do you perceive to be the recent successes and 
shortfalls in Navy acquisition activities?
    Answer. There are two aspects to answering this question. To 
achieve more reliable long-term successes, the Navy and Marine Corps is 
more readily embracing the inherent need to improve capability over 
time as a fundamental design requirement. My understanding is that the 
DDG(X) design will have more capacity to incorporate capability than 
the current set of surface combatants. However, acquisition enterprises 
have often underestimated the maturity and readiness of technologies to 
begin production. This can lead to over committing to concurrent 
development of the required technologies while simultaneously entering 
production. History is clear that over-reliance on concurrent 
development has led to significant cost increase and schedule delays. 
These include DDG-1000, CVN-78, and the Littoral Combat Ship programs. 
I believe the Navy is reversing this trend by adopting other proved 
design practices such as; early prototyping, incorporation of land-
based test sites, and ensuring designs are mature prior to production. 
If confirmed, I would look to assess the effectiveness of these 
actions, and where needed, apply leadership to reduce risk to ensure 
programs meet cost and schedule objectives.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take specifically to 
improve oversight in the requirements determination, resource 
allocation, and acquisition management processes?
    Answer. In my view, it is critical to balance resources, 
requirements, and acquisition management processes to ensure the timely 
delivery of capability to the warfighter. If confirmed, I will work 
with the CNO, CMC, and the Naval acquisition team to identify potential 
improvements in these processes and communicate those recommendations 
to OSD and the Joint Requirements Oversight Council. When appropriate, 
I will ensure that recommended changes are coordinated for 
implementation in Department of the Navy policy.
    Question. How can the Department of Defense and the Navy better 
access and integrate commercial and military technology to remain ahead 
of potential adversaries?
    Answer. In my view, the key to accessing and integrating commercial 
and military technology is to both embrace collaboration and innovation 
and to foster a culture of integration of new capability as a life 
cycle strategy in order to prioritize speed and agility in the 
procurement process. By doing so, the Department of Defense and the DON 
will be able to catch up (where necessary) or remain ahead of potential 
adversaries to maintain our warfighting edge. If confirmed, I will 
examine options such as: fostering partnerships with commercial 
technology companies to leverage their expertise and access cutting-
edge technologies; investing in research and development initiatives to 
create new technologies and aggressively apply open architectures to 
adapt new capabilities to meet warfighter needs. In doing so, if 
confirmed, we can further develop a culture of innovation by 
encouraging experimentation, risk-taking, and creative thinking.
    Question. What roles do you see for developmental planning, 
prototyping, and experimentation in the fielding of future Navy 
capabilities?
    Answer. My goal would be to establish the technical and business 
models in our acquisition architectures to flexibly and fluidly bring 
in needed capabilities and execute programs through the powers of the 
available acquisition pathways. Still there will be instances that 
require urgency of action that can only be achieved using the more 
accelerated acquisition authorities provided by Congress. If confirmed, 
I will balance the ability to mainstream new functionality and also 
take advantage of rapid acquisition to achieve a best-match on 
delivering against the urgency of warfighting needs. I will work to 
foster a strong partnership with the CNO and CMC and work together to 
determine the best process to address those mechanisms.
    Question. How would you propose better integrating successful 
outcomes from experimentation exercises like Task Force 59 and SCOUT 
into acquisition programs?
    Answer. Experimentation is a foundational learning tool used across 
the full spectrum of technology maturity and CONOPS refinement. 
Experimentation exercises like Task Force 59 and SCOUT bring together 
discovery-based exploration of emerging technologies and rigorous 
evaluation of specific technology. If confirmed, I am fully committed 
to evaluating the lessons learned from these efforts and working with 
our industrial base partners to productionize, integrate and scale 
successful outcomes into acquisition programs.
    Question. How would you propose the Navy better plan and prepare 
for weapon system sustainment as part of its acquisition activities?
    Answer. In 2018, Congress expanded the SAE responsibilities to 
include maintenance and sustainment. If confirmed, I will be using this 
lens to enable the development teams to establish design requirements 
about these life cycle aspects much earlier in the life cycle. In 
addition, to improve future readiness and control sustainment costs, 
the Department needs to trace acquisition activities and investments to 
the outcomes that matter in sustainment. If confirmed, I will work to 
optimize measurable sustainment outcomes with proven metrics such as 
maintenance turn-around-time and supply effectiveness at the lowest 
possible life cycle cost. I will strengthen our governance of 
sustainment activities and investments throughout the lifecycle through 
rigorous, focused early design considerations, Independent Logistics 
Assessments, and Sustainment Reviews.
                      cost and schedule estimates
    Question. The Government Accountability Office has reported that 
the Navy's use of unrealistically optimistic cost and schedule 
estimates is a major contributor to cost growth and program failure.
    What institutional factors do you perceive to contribute to the 
Navy's use of unrealistically optimistic cost and schedule estimates?
    Answer. Based on my experience, I understand that immature design, 
immature technology development, immature planning, or industrial base 
readiness can contribute to inaccurate cost and schedule estimates. I 
believe that prior to committing the Nations resources to an 
acquisition decision, we must ensure we have characterized the 
development risk across every facet of the program and have realistic 
maturation efforts in place to ensure we have stable and mature 
designs. This includes, where appropriate, a design requirement for 
incorporating new technologies as a part of a life cycle strategy. We 
must start to look at our platforms and systems as landing pads for 
evolving performance and hosts for improving technologies when they are 
robust and ready to support the program. This includes more aggressive 
use of modeling the use of well-understood open systems architectures 
to smooth integration issues, and to make sure industry has both the 
capability and capacity to produce the capability, with quality and at 
scale. It is my understanding that the DON has a robust and multi-
layered cost estimate process, which includes estimates from program 
offices, independent estimators from the Systems Commands, and review 
at the Echelon 1 level, along with active engagement and participation 
with the Director, Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation for the 
Department's largest and high-interest programs. If confirmed, you have 
my commitment to ensure we will do due diligence prior to making 
acquisition recommendations and that we continue to strengthen Navy/
Marine Corp's robust cost estimating procedures.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you propose to counter or 
mitigate these factors leading to unrealistic estimates?
    Answer. It is my understanding the Navy has implemented best 
practices in major acquisition programs to ensure realistic estimates. 
This includes the use of mature designs, prototyping new technologies 
at land-based test sites where appropriate, and developing a 
collaborative environment with industry early in the design process to 
ensure producibility of a program. If confirmed, I would assess the 
effectiveness of these efforts and make necessary adjustments to ensure 
programs meet established cost and schedule benchmarks.
    Question. What steps do you believe the Navy can and should take to 
ensure that cost and schedule estimates are based on adequate empirical 
evidence, and that such estimates provide a sound basis for 
decisionmaking on Navy programs?
    Answer. The formulation of cost estimates for major programs should 
be based on sound data and analysis. Underlying assumptions, 
approaches, risk, and data supporting the independent component cost 
estimate and the program office estimate is compared through the Cost 
Review Board process to understand the differences in order to better 
inform the program budget and acquisition strategies to mitigate risk. 
If confirmed, you have my commitment to provide a fresh look at Navy 
processes to ensure that we are taking full advantage of evolving 
capability delivery methods, modern development practices and that our 
assumptions, estimates, and execution of programs are based on sound 
data and analysis.
   software activities and acquisition of information technology (it)
    Question. What is your understanding of the role of the ASN (RDA) 
with respect to IT acquisition and software activities of the 
Department of the Navy?
    Answer. As the Acquisition Executive for the Navy, I understand 
that ASN (RDA) is responsible for all IT and software acquisitions for 
the Department of the Navy. If confirmed, I would work very closely 
with the Department's Chief Information Officer, Principal Cyber 
Advisor, and Service Chiefs to procure affordable, effective, and 
cyber-survivable systems that meet mission requirements.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you plan to address systemic and 
persistent cultural, process, and technical barriers to improving the 
Navy's treatment of software activities and IT acquisition?
    Answer. The United States' IT industrial base is the preeminent 
world leader in IT systems and software innovation. The Department of 
the Navy's IT and software systems must embrace these state-of-the-
practice methods to be agile and adaptable in order to respond to a 
rapidly changing environment. A critical enabler in remaining agile and 
adaptable will be to harness commercial systems, software applications 
and robust development methods, where applicable. I am particularly 
supportive of using the evolving acquisition tools, such as the 
software and business acquisition pathways, to ensure we are using the 
best-fit methods for acquiring this kind of technology. If confirmed, I 
will look at things like these best practices for working with our 
laboratories, academia, industry and other government agencies to drive 
a culture that values this mindset.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you work with the testing 
community, the Navy's Chief Information Officer, and with the other 
Military Services--including their Chief Information Officers--in the 
development and deployment of Navy business IT systems?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work closely with the Navy's Chief 
Information Officer and the Principal Cyber Adviser to develop a 
testing framework that embraces iterative capability improvement, 
manages risk based on commercial accreditation, to include cyber-safe 
certification, as well as other industry and government best practices. 
The DON's Zero Trust initiative is a fundamental paradigm change to 
improve cyber survivability while empowering appropriate data sharing 
across DON's networks. This trust-but-verify strategy will enable the 
Department to have better control and visibility, while increasing 
safety and decreasing security risk. Additionally, if confirmed, I will 
reach across the Military Services to ensure alignment, sharing of 
information and capturing of lessons learned to benefit all the 
Military Services.
    Question. If confirmed, what major improvements would you make in 
the Navy's development and deployment of major IT systems?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work closely with the Department's 
Chief Information Officer and Service Requirements Officers to ensure 
that the Department is fielding modern enterprise IT systems. One of 
the key areas that I would look to better understand is how to 
transition unique or ``stove-piped'' systems to an enterprise solution 
that transforms the organization into a data informed culture, enabled 
by IT that evolves as the Naval force evolves.
    Question. If confirmed, what would be your highest priority IT and 
software-related initiatives?
    Answer. If confirmed as the Navy's Acquisition Executive, I will 
work with the Department's Chief Information Officer and Service 
Requirements Officers to identify priority IT and software needs and 
then work to deliver and scale those priorities in a cost effective and 
timely manner.
    Question. In your view, what is the appropriate relationship 
between the Navy's efforts to implement enterprise IT programs and 
supporting computing services and infrastructure to support Navy 
missions, and the efforts being undertaken by the Defense Information 
Systems Agency?
    Answer. It is my understanding that Defense Information Systems 
Agency (DISA) is the provider of DoD enterprise services and tools 
which are available to all the Services to leverage. If confirmed, I 
intend to work with the Naval team to review these tools and services 
to ensure they are cost effective and operationally responsive to the 
DON and to determine if provided services are meeting mission 
requirements.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that appropriate 
business process reengineering is undertaken and accomplished before 
initiating new business systems, IT program development, and 
deployment?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work closely with the Department's 
Chief Information Officer to assess the DON's current approach to 
business system development and ensure business process reengineering 
is accomplished as a critical initial step in business system 
development.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you coordinate the development or 
procurement of cloud computing services within the Navy with other 
Department of Defense and Federal Government cloud computing 
initiatives?
    Answer. I believe that cloud computing is an incredibly useful 
approach to transforming how the DON delivers, protects, and manages 
access to data and applications across all mission areas--business, 
warfighting, and intelligence. However, in the bandwidth-limited 
environments at sea or in the field, we often have to basically take a 
cloud with us, but even so, cloud computing should be exhaustively 
examined as a first-option method fulfill our requirements. If 
confirmed, I will work with Department leaders to assess the DON's 
current policies and processes for development, procurement, and 
delivery of cloud services to ensure that they are consistent with 
industry best practices and support the evolving needs of the 
warfighter. I will also assess DoD's recently awarded Joint Warfighting 
Cloud Capability (JWCC) multi-vendor contract to determine the most 
appropriate and effective way to leverage the JWCC to meet the 
Department of the Navy's enterprise cloud requirements.
    Question. In your view, what is the appropriate role for cloud 
computing capabilities in Navy acquisition, research, testing, and 
logistics programs and activities?
    Answer. Cloud computing provides significant benefits compared to 
traditionally acquired business systems. These include increased 
productivity, collaboration, portability, upgradability, connectivity, 
and security. If confirmed, I would work closely with the Navy's 
acquisition and research leaders to understand areas where cloud 
computing can improve business processes across the entire Research, 
Development, and Acquisition enterprise.
    Question. Where do you believe the best opportunities for 
collaboration and joint execution between the Navy and the Chief Data 
and AI Officer (CDAO) might exist?
    Answer. The Department of the Navy is embracing machine learning, 
artificial intelligence (ML/AI) and data analytics to increase speed of 
decision, drive innovation, and improve both operational and business 
processes. As these technologies and tools improve overtime, I believe 
there must be alignment across the DoD to ensure enterprise-level 
infrastructure and services are available to advance adoption of data 
collection, curation, related analytics, cross-organization 
transparency and thoughtful application of ML/AI. The CDAO is also 
working on the challenges with data interoperability and the mechanisms 
for how we communicate as a joint force and also with our allies and 
partners to achieve the objectives of Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control (JADC2). If confirmed, I would work closely with the Department 
of the Navy's Chief Information Officer and the DoD Digital and 
Artificial Intelligence Office to share best practices, ensure 
alignment and collaborate to improve interoperability.
    Question. In your view, what is the role of Navy software factories 
and how do you plan to assure the success of these entities?
    Answer. It is my understanding that software factories have become 
a key piece of the DON's approach to promulgate a Development, 
Security, and Operations (DevSecOps) culture which invests in and 
leverages state-of-the-practice methods such as continuous integration 
/ continuous delivery (CI/CD) as a preferred approach to instantiate 
agile development practices and speed capability to the fleet. If 
confirmed, I intend to continue implementing the DON's vision to 
provide mission-driven and user-focused software to our sailors and 
marines through the ever-evolving software development practices like 
these. As such the community will need to move these capabilities 
forward while continuing to assess and rationalize the software factory 
capability ecosystem.
                              contracting
    Question. What are the major challenges facing the Navy with 
respect to contracting activities?
    Answer. If confirmed, I want to evaluate the current challenges by 
meeting with the DON contracting activities as well as members from 
industry to gain a full perspective on their current limitations, 
trends and future needs. Based on my past experience, challenges in 
contracting will need to address talent management, capability and 
capacity gaps for long-range planning, requirements definition, speed 
to contract, oversight, and overarching acquisition workforce.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you drive greater use of flexible 
contracting authorities while also ensuring appropriate oversight of 
such use?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will strongly encourage the acquisition 
workforce to utilize the tools Congress has authorized to maximize 
flexibility. These reforms provide military departments with valuable 
tools to increase innovation, efficiency, and effectiveness in 
responding to the needs of the warfighter. I will ensure the DON 
continues to have an educated and trained acquisition workforce and to 
utilize accountability and oversight processes to ensure there are 
appropriate checks and balances throughout the acquisition lifecycle.
    Question. What factors drive procurement administrative lead time, 
and what actions will you take to reduce lead times?
    Answer. Based upon my experience in the DON, I have seen several 
areas that drive procurement lead times from requirements definition, 
proposal preparation, negotiations, and post award administration. If 
confirmed, I will meet with the DON contracting activities, program 
offices, and industry partners to identify and remove barriers that are 
contributing to excessive procurement lead times.
    Question. In what instances do you believe the Navy should use 
fixed price contracts for development programs?
    Answer. It is my understanding that there are guidelines for using 
the appropriate contract type and if confirmed I will ensure that DON 
contracting professionals continue to use sound judgment when 
determining the most appropriate contract type for each action based on 
the risks inherent to the specific requirements. Traditionally, 
programs in the development phase have more inherent cost, schedule and 
performance risk, driving a need to have thoughtful use of contract 
types and incentives that are best-matched for the business and 
technical problem at hand.
    Question. Do you perceive that the Navy is making appropriate use 
of non-FAR-based contracting approaches, such as Other Transaction 
Authority (OTA)? If confirmed, how might you modify the Navy's efforts 
to and processes for the use of these approaches?
    Answer. I support the use of every tool in the acquisition toolbox. 
If confirmed, I will encourage the continued use of non-FAR based 
contracting approaches as they provide the military departments with 
valuable tools to increase innovation, efficiency, and effectiveness in 
responding to the needs of the warfighter. Use of these non-FAR based 
contracting approaches removes barriers to entry for non-traditional 
defense contractors, providing access to critical and emerging 
technologies in the execution of our mission.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that Navy personnel 
are properly trained in the use of non-FAR-based contracting 
methodologies?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will assess the sufficiency of the training 
to the Department's acquisition workforce to ensure they are fully 
trained to enable the DON to successfully leverage non-FAR based 
contracting methodologies to deliver improved program outcomes. I will 
leverage the use of resources from sources such as DAU, DIU, and DARPA, 
and other organizations that have used these methods effectively.
    Question. In your view, what are the general advantages and 
disadvantages of FAR and non-FAR based contracting approaches, 
respectively?
    Answer. Both contracting approaches provide benefits in meeting the 
Department's mission. Contracts governed by the FAR provide standard 
terms and conditions for use which are built upon decades of 
acquisition experiences but which may create barriers to entry. Whereas 
use of non-FAR based contracting approaches provide military 
departments access to critical technologies from non-traditional 
defense sources and offer more flexibility than the traditional 
government acquisition process allows. If confirmed, I will encourage 
the use of all tools available to the acquisition workforce.
                    multiyear procurement contracts
    Question. Section 3501 of title 10, United States Code, provides 
the criteria Congress expects will be met to exercise multiyear 
contract authority.
    What types of programs are appropriate for the use of multiyear 
contracts?
    Answer. Multiyear contracts are appropriate for programs that have 
a stable requirements, realistic cost estimates, stable designs, and 
that could result in significant savings for the Department when 
compared with annual contracting. Department of Navy programs such as 
the Virginia-class submarine program, DDG 51 Destroyer program, and V-
22 Tilt Rotor Aircraft have allowed the Department to take advantage of 
mature designs and continuing requirements to realize savings for the 
government.
    Question. If confirmed, will you ensure that the Navy and Marine 
Corps fully comply with the requirements of section 3501?
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. What is your understanding of the requirement that a 
multiyear contract result in ``significant savings'' compared to the 
cost of carrying out a program through annual contracts?
    Answer. It is my understanding that multiyear procurements should 
achieve ``significant'' savings compared to annual procurements. What 
constitutes significant savings of the total anticipated costs of 
carrying out the program through annual contracts will vary for each 
individual program. It is my understanding that the ``significant 
savings'' standard is not based upon any particular percentage of 
savings. However, a benchmark of 10 percent has historically been used 
as a starting point.
    Question. What is your understanding of the requirements regarding 
the timing of a Department of Defense request for legislative 
authorization of a multiyear procurement contract for a particular 
program?
    Answer. It is my understanding that, in the ordinary course, the 
Department of Defense typically requests statutory authority to enter 
into a multiyear procurement contract with the President's Budget in 
either the fiscal year in which the contract will be initiated or in 
the year prior.
    Question. The Navy budget request for fiscal year 2022 included 
insufficient funding to avoid breaking a multiyear contract for the 
DDG-51 destroyer program. The Committee views such actions as breaking 
a moral commitment from the Department to fully fund multiyear 
procurement programs for the duration of the contract. Such an action 
should only be taken in the direst of circumstances.
    Can you assure the Committee that you intend to fully fund all 
multiyear contracts within the purview of the Navy in future budget 
requests and that you would only recommend a budget request that fails 
to do so in a dire emergency?
    Answer. Yes.
                        middle tier acquisition
    Question. Section 804 of the Fiscal Year 202016 NDAA authorized DOD 
to employ an acquisition approach (``Middle Tier Acquisition'') that 
was intended to support the rapid delivery of new capability to meet 
emerging operational needs.
    In your view, what benefit has the Department of the Navy derived 
from its use of Section 804 authorities?
    Answer. In my view, the Middle Tier of Acquisition (MTA) is an 
important tool to rapidly develop prototypes, demonstrate new 
capabilities and rapidly field production quantities of systems with 
proven technologies that require minimal development. It is my 
understanding that the DON is using these authorities to drive 
capability to the hands of sailors and marines. MTAs can also improve 
affordability by facilitating a tailored approach to program oversight, 
and empowering programs to leverage data, use innovative strategies, 
and actively manage risk to improve responsiveness to the warfighter. 
If confirmed, I am committed to responsible use of this pathway, and I 
will engage with Congress to ensure proper oversight as the Department 
learns and adapts.
    Question. What risks have accrued and been accepted by the Navy as 
a consequence of the use of these authorities?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Department of the Navy has 
been very judicious in using these authorities to reduce technical 
risk, validate designs and feasibility of design concepts, obtain early 
feedback from warfighters, and obtain information on potential costs, 
challenges, and other similar factors. If confirmed, I will be 
committed to ensuring the Department remains diligent with the 
management of MTA processes and policies so that any risks remain 
manageable and are quickly addressed.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you balance the need to rapidly 
prototype and field systems with the need for appropriate oversight of 
the Department's use of 804 authorities? Please explain your answer.
    Answer. If confirmed, I will closely examine the Department's use 
of these authorities to ensure that we achieve the appropriate balance 
between flexibility and oversight. I will remain vigilant in ensuring 
all programs aligns with both DoD and DON policies through open 
communication with our stakeholders, lessons learned across the 
Department and Services, and maintaining management rigor. I am 
confident that the benefits of Section 804 authorities outweigh the 
risks associated with the Department's need to learn and adapt to 
oversight of this new pathway.
                          test and evaluation
    Question. Under what circumstances, if any, do you believe it 
appropriate--for the test community to take risk and modify its 
assessments of operational effectiveness and suitability to support 
continuous development or rapid fielding?
    Answer. My current position requires me to establish policy to 
assess programs' operational effectiveness, suitability, survivability, 
and lethality that informs both acquisition and fielding. I do, and 
will continue, to work closely with program managers and warfighters to 
make risk-based decisions that balance the desire to go fast with 
managing a balance between technical and operational risk.
    One of my points of leadership with DOT&E was to update our 
forward-looking strategy to better position my current organization for 
the future. Over the past year, we have been working with the Services 
and the other stakeholder organizations in DoD to explore how the T&E 
community engages earlier in the development life cycle (shift left) to 
establish testability requirements and operational test considerations 
when a design is being established. We have also begun to establish the 
foundation of practices associated with thinking into the future about 
what test needs should be positioned in order to ensure that, in the 
end, the warfighter has quality weapons that are effective and work 
when they use them (look right). By having the T&E community involved 
early--to shift left--and by working with the acquisition community to 
plan around how to adequately test in the future--to look right--we 
seek a strong and effective collaboration between the developers, 
testers and users to ensure we can move fast into the future for 
delivering excellence at the speed of need.
    If confirmed, I intend to bring that experience to the Naval 
acquisition team to continuously improve our methods and products to 
deliver game-winning capability at the speed of need.
    Question. What do you see as the role of the developmental and 
operational test and evaluation communities with respect to rapid 
acquisition, spiral acquisition, and other streamlined acquisition 
processes?
    Answer. The test and evaluation community plays a significant role 
in all aspects of acquisition, especially as it pertains to fully 
utilizing all the acquisition processes that are available to creative 
program managers to deliver working capability, at scale, rapidly. The 
recently updated SECNAV acquisition policy, SECNAVINST 5000.2G, 
provides guidance regarding the development of tailored, capability 
focused test and evaluation for each of the DoD acquisition paths, 
including Middle Tier and Urgent Capability Acquisition. This approach 
ensures that each program has adequate levels of test and evaluation 
rigor and related strategies designed to provide the data required to 
inform the analysis necessary for making sound acquisition and fielding 
decisions.
    Question. In your view, does the Department of the Navy have 
adequate test and evaluation capabilities? In which areas, if any, do 
you feel the Navy should be developing new test and evaluation 
capabilities?
    Answer. As the current Department of Defense Director for 
Operational Test and Evaluation, I have identified areas that require 
improved test and evaluation capabilities. One example is how we carry 
out live fire test and evaluation. Due to the enormous cost of some 
weapon systems and increased ranges of weapons, it may not be practical 
or affordable to carry out a representative live fire test and 
evaluation. We must look to innovative solutions that provide us the 
assurance that testing results are reflective of the performance 
expected in the operational environment. If confirmed, I am committed 
to reviewing the Navy's test and evaluation capabilities and sharing 
best practices I have learned as DoD Director for Operational Test and 
Evaluation with the DON.
                         technology transition
    Question. The Department of Defense continues to struggle with the 
transition of new technologies into existing programs of record and 
major weapons systems and platforms. Further, the Department also has 
struggled with moving technologies from the Department's programs or 
other sources rapidly into the hands of operational users.
    What impediments to technology transition do you see within the 
Department of the Navy?
    Answer. One of my key focus areas, should I be confirmed, will be 
to examine the methods used to mature innovative technologies that can 
be smoothly integrated into scalable, quality solutions. I would also 
ensure a tight coupling between the science and technology community 
and the program managers who would be charged with transitioning those 
technologies. In addition, building a strong foundation of research 
requires talented and committed people in the Department, and with 
partners in government, academia and industry. My experience as a 
senior leader in DoD acquisition is that many of the roadblocks to 
change and rapid transition of new technologies are slowed by a lack of 
an enabling environment (technical, business and cultural). These 
impediments include slow adoption of state-of-the-practice technology 
trends (particularly when they are commercially driven), self-limiting 
impediments for adopting the authorities provided by Congress and 
taking advantage of the multiple pathways now available and lack of 
training in the acquisition workforce. If confirmed, I will assess 
these and other factors that hamper technology transition within the 
DON, and work with the Defense Industrial Base, commercial/non-
traditional suppliers, academia and the Naval Research and Development 
community to investigate avenues to accelerate and transition 
technology to the warfighter.
    Question. To what extent could and should the Navy Research 
Laboratory and other Navy systems engineering commands play a greater 
role in enabling the transition of promising technologies from a 
successful initial demonstration to a program-of-record, which may 
include working with industry and the desired program executive officer 
(PEO) to develop and assist with a systems engineering plan necessary 
to achieve transition to the PEO?
    Answer. The Navy Research Laboratory and Systems Engineering 
Commands provide a vital role in the evaluation, development, 
assessment and oversight of technologies intended to fill warfighting 
capabilities gaps or to exploit gaps in our potential opponents. Should 
I be confirmed, I will ensure that technology developed at our research 
laboratories has the best chance to transition by making sure the 
foundational elements (technical architectures, business models, 
transition agreements, etc.) for speeding technology insertion into 
programs of record. The community also needs to constantly be 
introspective about fostering increased collaboration between the 
government stakeholders such as the PEO, resource sponsor, and project 
leads.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps, if any, will you take to 
enhance the effectiveness of technology transition efforts?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will assess existing Department of the Navy 
technical and business processes to ensure effective transition 
mechanisms are in place and that a robust dialog exists between the 
Naval Research and Development community and the acquisition programs 
of record to enhance the effectiveness of the technology transition 
efforts. I will also review the training of the DON acquisition 
workforce to ensure the workforce has the training needed to 
effectively transition technologies into acquisition programs
    Question. What can be done from a budget, policy, and 
organizational standpoint to facilitate the transition of technologies 
from science and technology programs and other sources, including small 
businesses, venture capital funded companies, and other non-traditional 
defense contractors, into acquisition programs?
    Answer. In recent years, Congress has given the Navy additional 
authorities needed to facilitate technology transition from the Science 
and Technology community to acquisition programs and the warfighters. 
If confirmed, I look forward to working with the Naval Research and 
Development community, industry, academia and acquisition programs to 
assess the processes in the Department of the Navy to ensure these new 
authorities are being fully utilized to facilitate greater 
collaboration and to ensure the warfighters maintain technological 
superiority. In instances where we identify additional authorities that 
can improve in this area, you have my commitment to bring it to 
congressional attention for consideration.
                  navy-related defense industrial base
    Question. In recent years, the Navy has been struggling with 
manpower shortages and other supply chain issues within the industrial 
base supporting Navy acquisition and sustainment activities. Congress 
has responded by implementing such programs as additional funding to 
support second and third tier vendors in the submarine production 
supply chain.
    What is your understanding and assessment of the systems and 
processes for identifying, evaluating, and managing risk among the 
entities that form the Navy industrial base and supply chain?
    Answer. Our industrial base is made up of essential partners for 
delivering capability and maintaining the Nation's enduring advantage. 
It is my understanding the DON has made it a priority to understand the 
entities that comprise its industrial base and supply chain. If 
confirmed, I will continue the DON's investment in tools and data 
analysis products to further illuminate the current supply chain risk 
and identify ways to prioritize areas of investment in the industrial 
base. This effort requires continued focus and measurement to ensure 
the DON is focusing investments in the industrial base to those areas 
where it will most effectively assure resiliency and support industrial 
base/supplier expansion.
    Question. What is your view of the current health of the industrial 
base that supports the Navy?
    Answer. I would like to better understand the challenges that are 
being experienced by our industrial base. If confirmed, I would 
personally visit their facilities and engage with their supplier base, 
then come back to you with my observations and some recommendations.
    As a general observation, I believe that the most important area 
that our industrial base partners would request is a clear and steady 
demand-signal to plan around. Without a clear and sustainable demand, 
it is very difficult for our industrial base partners to plan what 
capital projects will be required, what investments need to be made to 
support future demand, and how many workers they will require. If 
confirmed, I will work closely with the Secretary of the Navy, CNO and 
CMC to support a predictable workload that allows our industrial base 
partners to plan effectively.
    Question. How should Navy acquisition leaders consider impacts on 
the industrial base when addressing requirements for recapitalization 
or modernization of major end items such as aircraft, munitions, or key 
repair parts?
    Answer. Recapitalization and modernization programs are critical to 
keeping platforms relevant to meet future threats. If confirmed, I 
would work closely with government and industry partners to incorporate 
innovative solutions that enable recapitalization and modernization of 
major end items in an affordable and timely manner. I would carefully 
consider the industrial base as part of the acquisition strategy 
development and future procurement plans to ensure we have the 
industrial base capacity to develop, produce, and field major end 
items, such as aircraft, munitions, and the key repair parts required 
to support warfighting requirements.
    Question. If confirmed, what changes, if any, would you pursue in 
systems and processes to improve identification, monitoring, and 
assessment of actions to ensure that risk in Navy-relevant sectors of 
the defense industrial base is adequately managed?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Navy is proactively 
improving visibility into its industrial base and associated workforce 
and is actively identifying risks and fragilities within those 
entities. It is also my understanding that the Navy is working in close 
partnership with contractors to support supply chain monitoring and 
health assessments to improve industrial base health and outcomes. If 
confirmed, I will work with industry and government partners to 
continue the framework of policies, procedures, and tools used to 
address our collective challenges in Navy-relevant sectors of the 
industrial base.
    Question. In your view, what actions should the Navy take to 
maintain access to critical elements of the defense industrial base, 
including special programs to ensure that of manpower resources 
sufficient to meet the Navy's needs?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Navy is collaborating with 
industry and government stakeholders to ensure a skilled workforce is 
available to support Navy shipbuilding, aviation, and repair capacity 
needs through ongoing workforce initiatives in key maritime and 
aviation regions and supply base centers of gravity. I recognize and 
support the Department's work with local, State, and national 
organizations to identify opportunities to generate resiliency and 
productivity in the defense industrial workforce and in the supply 
chain. If confirmed, I will add my voice and ensure that messaging, 
incentives and policies are in place to continue to identify and 
monitor Navy's access to the people needed to support our critical 
supply chain. If required, I would also seek additional measures, in 
consultation with Congress, which would enable the Department to 
reconstitute critical industrial capabilities which may include, when 
necessary, the acquisition of intellectual property and special 
manufacturing equipment.
    Question. If confirmed, what would you see as your office's role in 
working with or supporting efforts of the Navy Office of Small Business 
Programs?
    Answer. Small businesses play a crucial role in any economy as they 
often form the backbone of local communities, create jobs, and promote 
innovation and diversity. In my past acquisition experience, I have 
enjoyed great outcomes in working with small businesses. They are a 
foundational element of the Defense ecosystem, and many directly 
support the larger prime contractors. It is my understanding that since 
I left the Department of the Navy, it has continued to be a strong 
performer in utilization of small business, and I am aware that DON has 
several ongoing initiatives to increase that utilization at both the 
prime and subcontractor levels. If confirmed, I will renew my 
commitment to ensuring that the Navy continues to advocate for small 
businesses and promote the critical role these businesses play in 
support of the DON and strive to continue to lead the DOD in this area.
    Question. If confirmed, what would you see as the relationship 
between your office and DIU?
    Answer. The pace of technological change dictates that we look to 
all sources for technologies that can, with minimal additional 
investment, be repurposed to address warfighting gaps or to improve 
existing capability. It is my understanding that DIU provides increased 
opportunities for the DON to leverage private sector investments in 
innovation to rapidly deploy capability to meet defense needs. If 
confirmed, I will work with our operational community to prioritize 
those proven technologies for scalability through DIU and other similar 
organizations.
                           navy shipbuilding
    Question. Congress has adopted a goal of 355 ships for the Navy 
fleet based on previous Navy Force Structure Assessments (FSA). The 
previous FSA requirement was 308 ships. The Navy's current naval battle 
force contains roughly 285 ships, and will not achieve a force level 
goal of 308 ships until at least 2035 at the earliest.
    In your view, what size Navy, consisting of what mix of ships, will 
be needed in coming years to adequately perform Navy missions?
    Answer. I am committed to building a naval force with sufficient 
size and capability to campaign effectively, deter aggression, and, if 
required, win decisively in combat. It is my understanding the Navy 
continuously reviews the numbers and types of ships--and the 
capabilities they require--to meet the evolving demands of the National 
Defense Strategy. Although I have not had the opportunity to review the 
Force Structure Assessment that established the number of ships, if 
confirmed, I am committed to working closely with the Secretary of the 
Navy, the CNO and CMC to deliver the most relevant capabilities and 
platforms on schedule.
    Question. What steps would you recommend evaluating to achieve a 
355-ship Navy, particularly related to additional ship procurement and 
the funding required?
    Answer. I am committed to building a naval force of sufficient 
size. If confirmed, a key task would be to work closely with industrial 
base partners to ensure they have a consistent and predictable demand 
signal to support the Navy this Nation requires. We must balance the 
industrial base capacity across the entire enterprise to ensure they 
can build and deliver the required capabilities needed in the future on 
time and on cost.
    The Navy recently made a commitment to procuring large uncrewed 
surface vessels that could be used to augment crewed platforms as a way 
of bringing more firepower to the point of need while minimizing 
complexity and cost, which would in-turn affect future force structure 
assessments. Should the CNO and CMC require these types of vessels, I 
will work with the Secretary of the Navy and Congress to get the right 
mix of crewed/uncrewed platforms and to invigorate the shipbuilding 
community (government and industry) to accelerate this concept.
    Last, modernization programs are important to keeping existing 
ships relevant to meet future threats, especially ships which have a 
30-40 year service life. I believe that these upgrades must be 
accomplished early in a ship's life cycle and at a regular interval. As 
threats change, we must have the ability to quickly adapt our ship 
platforms to meet these new threats. If confirmed, I would work closely 
with our government and industry teams to seek innovative solutions 
that enable us to modernize ships in an affordable and timely manner.
    Question. The Navy has begun acquiring the replacements for the 
Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs). The new Columbia-class 
boats are projected to have an acquisition cost of $10 billion per 
ship. The Navy has stated publicly that it could not afford to buy both 
the new SSBNs and maintain other required procurements under expected 
funding toplines.
    What steps do you believe will be necessary to enable the Navy to 
expand to a 355-ship fleet, while also procuring the Columbia-class 
SSBNs?
    Answer. I support the Columbia-class SSBN as the Navy's number one 
acquisition priority and most survivable leg of the nuclear triad. 
Continuing to fully fund the program will be essential to ensure on 
time delivery, so that the Nation's sea based strategic deterrent 
requirements continue to be met as the Ohio-class is retired. To 
minimize the impact to the rest of the fleet, I believe in continuing 
to prioritize efforts to reduce cost and schedule risk, increase the 
capacity of the submarine industrial base, and improve affordability. 
If confirmed, I look forward to working closely with Congress on 
delivering this important strategic capability while also modernizing 
and expanding the rest of the Fleet.
    Question. In the 1970's and 1980's, the United States procured the 
current Ohio-class SSBN submarines within the Navy's shipbuilding (SCN) 
account. In 2015, Congress created a special fund, the National Sea-
Based Deterrence Fund (NSBDF), for procurement of Columbia-class SSBNs.
    Do you have a view on how the cost of Columbia-class SSBNs should 
be funded--solely from Navy resources, from a combination of Navy and 
other-than-Navy (e.g., OMB and other Defense) sources, or with a 
different approach? If so, please explain.
    Answer. I understand that the Navy has budgeted for the Columbia-
class program in the Shipbuilding and Conversion account and then used 
the authorized National Sea-Based Deterrence Fund to execute the 
program. I support this approach for implementing this important 
program, as it maximizes transparency and provides valuable authorities 
to control costs.
    If confirmed, I will work with the Secretary of the Navy and 
Congress to determine the best approach for funding the program and 
ensure the proper acquisition authorities are used to make this 
critical program more affordable.
  littoral combat ship (lcs) and constellation-class frigate (ffg-62)
    Question. The Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) program has had mixed 
success at best. Last year, the Navy proposed to retire most of the 
LCS-1 class of ships substantially before they would have been tired 
under normal circumstances. To replace many of the capabilities the 
Navy had expected from the LCS program, the Navy has begun the 
Constellation-class frigate (FFG-62) program
    What is your view of the lesson that should be learned from the 
experience of the LCS program?
    Answer. From a sustainment perspective, the experience of LCS 
highlighted the logistical challenges caused by over-reliance on 
Contractor Furnished Equipment (CFE), over--commitment to reducing crew 
size, and dependence on original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) for 
maintenance support. Utilization of Navy programs of record that can be 
maintained and sustained organically provides a more maintainable, 
sustainable, reliable, and available capability. In addition, utilizing 
mature designs and technologies from the outset, as well as employment 
of a Land-Based Engineering Site (LBES), will minimize engineering 
changes, promote a smooth transition to fleet introduction, and 
ultimately improve operational availability.
    Question. What is your understanding of the FFG(X) program and how 
it will differ from LCS?
    Answer. I understand that the Constellation-class Frigate (FFG 62) 
is the evolution of Small Surface Combatants with increased lethality, 
survivability, and improved capability to operate in more severely 
contested environments. The first ship of the class was awarded with 
full and open competition and leveraged mature and sustainable designs 
and technologies. It is my understanding that the program ensured 
sufficient design maturity and production planning prior to the start 
of production, reducing concurrency risk. I am aware that the ship will 
be equipped with Navy standard Government Furnished Equipment (GFE) 
systems, leveraging proven program of record combat, control, 
communication, computing, and intelligence systems. Additionally, the 
FFG 62 class is utilizing a proven hull form to minimize Hull, 
Mechanical, and Electrical (HM&E) risk. The program is aligned with 
Congress' intent on land-based testing and is establishing an FFG 62 
land-based test site to validate power and propulsion systems prior to 
lead ship delivery.
    Question. Do you support the current FFG-62 class acquisition 
strategy?
    Answer. Yes.
                             naval aviation
    Question. What is your assessment of the most important challenges 
facing naval aviation? If confirmed, what steps would you take to meet 
those challenges?
    Answer. Naval aviation must work to build a modern and sustainable 
capability, balancing readiness of the force today while modernizing an 
aging fleet and developing the Air Wing of the Future. This challenge 
is not unique to the NAE community. If confirmed, I will work with the 
NAE to ensure our investments support continued readiness improvement 
efforts and incremental capability improvement programs to order to 
meet the evolving aircraft mission performance needs and deliver 
greater capability to the fleet to meet the next generation of security 
challenges,
    Question. Does the Navy have a sufficient number of strike-fighter 
aircraft? If not, if confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure 
they do?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Department has stated they 
have a sufficient number of 4th Generation Strike Fighters. In my view, 
further investment in 5th Generation procurement and development of 6th 
Generation platforms should be the focus moving forward. If confirmed, 
I will review the current strike fighter inventory and projected 
procurements to ensure the DON is using all available levers to achieve 
the correct capability and capacity to meet current Global Force 
Management requirements and manage strike fighter inventory.
    Question. What is your understanding of the physiological episodes 
that the naval aviation community is confronting and plans to address 
such episodes?
    Answer. Providing for the safety of our sailors and marines in of 
the utmost priority. I understand that the DON has taken a 
comprehensive approach to both evaluate the causes of and mitigate the 
occurrences of Physiological Episodes (PEs). These efforts have 
resulted in a steady decline in the incidence of PEs, and the rate is 
now the lowest it has been in 10 years. I assure you that I will 
continue this commitment to safety, if confirmed, and will work with 
the NAE to ensure that the necessary resources are applied to ongoing 
modifications to the aircraft, improved maintenance practices, and 
improved aircrew interface.
                         marine corps aviation
    Question. What is your assessment of the most important challenges 
facing Marine Corps aviation? If confirmed, what steps would you take 
to meet those challenges?
    Answer. Marine Corps aviation challenges are similar to those 
facing Naval Aviation and the Department as a whole. The DON must 
continue to invest in readiness and sustainment, modernization of the 
Marine Corps aircraft fleet, and 5th Generation strike fighter aircraft 
that incorporate advanced capabilities to support the objectives of the 
National Defense Strategy and the Commandant's Force Design 2030. If 
confirmed, I will work with Marine Corps leadership to ensure our 
resources are invested to deliver the most effective Marine Corps 
aviation capabilities and capacity.
    Question. Is Marine Corps aviation readiness at an acceptable 
level? If not, if confirmed, what steps would you take to improve 
aviation readiness?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the Marine Corps has made 
measurable improvements in aviation readiness due to a comprehensive 
readiness recovery plan that includes changes in resourcing and 
multiple initiatives to improve material readiness across all type/
model/series. If confirmed, I will work with Marine Corps and DON 
leadership to ensure readiness accounts are adequately funded and that 
investment accounts are sufficiently resourced to build on these 
efforts in accordance with the 2022 Marine Corps Aviation Plan.
                       f-35 joint strike fighter
    Question. What is your assessment of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter 
program? If confirmed, what changes would you seek to implement in the 
program?
    Answer. The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter is a dominant, multirole, 
fifth-generation aircraft capable of projecting U.S. power and 
deterring potential adversaries. In my current capacity as Director of 
Operational Test and Evaluation, I am aware that the F-35 presents 
unique challenges in areas such as development, testing, fielding, and 
sustainment. If confirmed, my role will be to serve as the Service 
Acquisition Executive for this critical program. I will be committed to 
working with the Joint Program Office the Services and Partners to 
increase capabilities, reduce costs, and complete all required testing.
    Question. In your view, what are the considerations for the 
Department of the Navy should take into account in evaluating 
alternatives to purchasing 340 F-35C fighter aircraft, such as 
purchasing advanced fourth generation fighters still in production, 
such as enhanced F-18s, or developing a next generation fighter 
aircraft beyond the F-35's capabilities?
    Answer. The F-35 is currently the most technological advanced 
fighter in the DON inventory and is needed to fight and win in the 
future fight. If confirmed, you have my commitment that I will evaluate 
all capabilities and technology available and under development to 
ensure an effective and efficient Naval force. I also believe unmanned 
systems are and will continue to play an important role in the future 
of warfare. If confirmed, it would be my intent to evaluate all 
available technology.
                            carrier air wing
    Question. Do you believe the Navy's carrier air wing is designed to 
provide the capability we expect it to contribute to the carrier strike 
group? Specifically, will the projected air wing have sufficient 
available strike range, available payload, electronic warfare 
capability, and command and control capability? Why or why not? If not, 
if confirmed, what steps would you take to address any gaps?
    Answer. In my view, the carrier air-wing (CVW) has been designed 
with the right mix of capabilities. However, it is critical that those 
capabilities continue to be reviewed and modernized to stay ahead of 
the threat. It is my understanding that today's Air Wing is 
transitioning to a mixture of 4th and 5th Generation strike fighter 
aircraft that incorporate advanced capabilities to support the 
objectives of the National Defense Strategy (NDS). If confirmed, I will 
work with the CNO and the Commandant to review CVW capabilities to 
ensure they are adequately meeting current requirements and are 
properly resourced to ensure the CVW will remain lethal and viable 
against future threats.
                           unmanned aviation
    Question. What is your assessment of the appropriate role unmanned 
aviation should play in Naval and Marine Corps aviation? If confirmed, 
what steps would you take to achieve that vision?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the DON is undertaking 
fundamental shift in naval aviation operations by continuing to 
integrate unmanned systems into the Fleet. These efforts provide 
signification advantages including decreased risk to personnel, greater 
persistence, longer ranges, improved data speed and accuracy, and a 
faster decision cycle. If confirmed, I will work with the CNO and 
Commandant to support development and test of these capabilities that 
increase operational opportunities and tactical advantages to the 
warfighters.
        unmanned surface vessels and unmanned underwater vessels
    Question. What is your assessment of the maturity of unmanned 
vessels in the surface and underwater domains? Do you support the 
Navy's autonomy roadmap? If confirmed, what steps would you take to 
reduce risk and transition one or more programs of record?
    Answer. My understanding is that the Navy is in the prototyping and 
experimentation phase for examining all sizes of unmanned surface 
vessels in order to mature the technology prior to committing the 
Nation to official programs of record. The exception to this is the 
Mine Counter Measure Unmanned Surface Vessel, which is an Acquisition 
Category II program in the production and deployment phase,. I also 
understand that prototyping and experimentation is progressing with 
large and extra-large unmanned undersea vehicles, including their core 
enabling technologies.
    In my view, autonomy will provide additional warfighting capability 
and capacity to augment the traditional combatant force, allowing the 
option to take on greater operational risk while maintaining a tactical 
and strategic advantage. If confirmed, I will support the development 
of an autonomy roadmap that will lay out an approach to address our 
technology gaps, reduce development risk and optimize manned/unmanned 
teaming. If confirmed, I will also support continued land and sea-based 
experimentation, and ensure the core and enabling technologies are at 
the appropriate level prior to committing into programs of record.
                       amphibious combat vehicle
    Question. Since canceling the Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV) 
in 2011 after spending $3 billion, the Marine Corps has chosen to 
pursue a more measured multi-phase acquisition strategy to fulfill 
their amphibious combat vehicle (ACV) modernization requirements.
    What is your understanding of the ACV acquisition strategy?
    Answer. With the cancellation of the EFV Program in 2011, the 
Marine Corps shifted its strategy to focus on mature, commercially 
available technologies for the ACV program, which I currently have 
under DOT&E oversight. It is my understanding that the first phases 
concentrated on a personnel variant and a command and control variant. 
Follow-on phases incorporate technologies to develop and test a medium 
caliber cannon variant and a recovery variant.
    Question. Do you support this acquisition strategy?
    Answer. Yes, the acquisition strategy for the ACV program is an 
example of expeditiously executing a competitive major acquisition 
program to provide the warfighter a much needed capability. If 
confirmed, I will support the fielding of ACV personnel and command and 
control variants, and the continued development of the medium caliber 
cannon and recovery variants.
                ground/air task-oriented radar (g/ator)
    Question. With development initiated more than a decade ago, the 
Marine Corps is moving forward with a long-delayed and expensive radar 
system, the Ground/Air Task-Oriented Radar (G/ATOR), which will replace 
a number of older radars and will protect marines from rockets, 
artillery, cruise missiles, and UAVs while also serving as an air-
traffic control system.
    What is your understanding of the G/ATOR acquisition strategy?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the G/ATOR program provides a 
next generation radar using one hardware configuration for multiple 
operational capabilities. The Air Surveillance/Air Defense and Counter-
fire capabilities began fielding in 2018 and 2019 respectively, and an 
Air Traffic Control variant is on the near horizon.
    Question. Do you support this acquisition strategy?
    Answer. Yes. I understand that the acquisition strategy for the G/
ATOR program developed a state-of-the-art radar that is providing the 
Marine Corps an enhanced multi-function capability. If confirmed, and 
when appropriate, I will support the Full Rate Production of this 
program and the development of the Air Traffic Control capability and 
other system upgrades.
                               munitions
    Question. Munitions inventories, particularly those of precision 
guided munitions, have declined significantly due to high operational 
usage, insufficient procurement, and a requirements system that does 
not adequately account for the ongoing need to transfer munitions to 
our allies and operations short of major combat, such as in the current 
operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria. In addition, we also now 
have to replace munitions stocks drawn down to support Ukraine.
    If confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure we have 
sufficient inventories of munitions to meet our combatant commanders' 
needs?
    Answer. Because munitions are a critical national priority, if 
confirmed I will support investments in the industrial base that 
increase capacity of critical components and work with suppliers to 
identify opportunities to increase resiliency. Aggressively supporting 
critical outsourcing and engaging with small and non-traditional 
businesses will help the DON expand the industrial base to remove 
chokepoints in production and supply. In addition, I will look for 
opportunities to leverage the new authorities provided in the Fiscal 
Year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act that provide temporary 
acquisition flexibilities to increase the Department's stocks of 
critical munitions.
                         science and technology
    Question. What is your understanding and assessment of the role 
that science and technology programs have played and will play in 
developing capabilities for current and future Navy and Marine Corps 
systems?
    Answer. DON investment in science and technology is critical to 
ensuring future Naval superiority, preventing technological surprise 
and developing the science needed to outpace our adversaries and other 
threats to mission readiness. Investments in academia support the 
world's most productive research and development ecosystem, increase 
diversity in the workforce, and leverage funding from other Federal 
agencies to accomplish the DON mission. These investments are the 
source of both evolutionary capabilities for programs of record and 
revolutionary game changing capabilities for the Navy and Marine Corps. 
If confirmed, I will work across the broader Research and Development 
community of industry, academia, and government to ensure the 
Department maintains its scientific and technical advantage.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you ensure that successful Navy 
and Marine Corps science and technology programs will have a pathway 
for a timely transition to operational warfighting capabilities?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will investigate the tools and methods 
being used for transitioning technology and work to strengthen 
collaboration between the science and technology community and the 
program managers who transition the technologies to operational 
warfighting capabilities. In addition, I will leverage title 10 USC 
4123 authority which provides Naval Warfare Centers and Labs a valuable 
tool to enhance the speed of technology transition. The goal that I 
would set would be to continue to develop capabilities while reducing 
cost and increasing the speed and scale of integrating technology into 
the fleet and force.
                    laboratories and warfare centers
    Question. What has been your experience in working with the Navy's 
labs and warfare centers?
    Answer. The Naval Warfare Centers and Laboratories house a world-
class workforce and capabilities that provide innovative solutions for 
rapid prototyping, fielding and technical execution for programs of 
record. Having served in several of these facilities, I have seen how 
they serve an essential role in all aspects of developing and 
delivering critical capabilities to the warfighter as we compete with 
near-peer adversaries for technological advantage. We need to renew a 
sense of urgency with our laboratory personnel and ensure our 
investments develop cutting-edge technologies for our warfighter at the 
speed of need.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to assess and 
enhance the interaction between Navy labs and warfare centers and with 
the acquisition community?
    Answer. It is my understanding that the ASN (RDA) organization is 
structured to ensure close coordination between Programs of Record and 
the research and development communities, including in some cases being 
geographically co-located. This provides synergy across the Acquisition 
lifecycle as well as opportunities to infuse new technologies developed 
by Scientists and Engineers into Programs of Records to meet strategic 
needs. If confirmed, I will work to ensure this synergy continues to 
grow.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure that 
the Navy's labs and warfare centers can attract and retain a technical 
workforce with the necessary skills and capabilities?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will partner with our Nation's Educational 
Institutions to develop science, technology, engineering, and 
mathematics (STEM) talent. I will enable our Naval Warfare Centers and 
Laboratories to further leverage the authorities provided under the 
Science and Technology Reinvention Laboratory (STRL) congressional 
authority. These authorities allow Naval Warfare Centers and 
Laboratories to quickly attract, recruit, and retain our Nation's best 
and brightest STEM talent. I will continue to revitalize Navy's culture 
to foster a greater level of collaboration across the Enterprise, which 
will result in greater speed and lethality to meet our warfighter's 
need.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure that 
the Navy's labs and warfare centers have the resources they need to 
acquire and maintain research and testing infrastructure and equipment?
    Answer. If confirmed, I would support the use of current 
authorities--such as Capital Investment Program and 10 U.S.C. 4123 
authority (also known as Naval Innovation Science and Engineering) to 
acquire and maintain the required infrastructure and equipment. I would 
continue to support additional financial flexibilities offered to the 
STRLs to allow resourcing infrastructure and equipment requirements. 
Finally, I would pursue the development of a long-range infrastructure 
plan that would utilize a programmatic approach to optimize laboratory 
infrastructure over the coming decades.
                      investment in infrastructure
    Question. Witnesses appearing before this Committee in the past 
have testified that the Services under-invest in both the maintenance 
and recapitalization of facilities and infrastructure compared to 
private industry standards. Decades of under-investment in Defense 
Department installations have led to substantial backlogs of facility 
maintenance activities, created substandard living and working 
conditions, and made it harder to take advantage of new technologies 
that could increase productivity. These challenges have been 
exacerbated by current budget pressures.
    What is your view of Navy and Marine Corps infrastructure 
investment?
    Answer. I understand that the DON infrastructure portfolio carries 
risk due to chronic underinvestment in facilities sustainment and 
recapitalization. If confirmed, I look to better understand the 
challenges that the Navy and Marine Corps have balancing investments 
for current and future infrastructure to meet the Department's urgent 
readiness needs, future force requirements, and business reforms.
    Question. If confirmed, what actions, if any, would you propose to 
increase resources to reduce the backlog and improve Navy and Marine 
Corps facilities?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work with leaders across the 
Department to address infrastructure needs and challenges across the 
enterprise. I will support reviews of Department requirements to ensure 
that the Navy and Marine Corps are focusing resources on the most 
critical and highest priority projects.
              senior military and civilian accountability
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to improve 
individual and organizational accountability in acquisition management?
    Answer. Accountability is the fundamental foundation for every 
action taken to facilitate trust and confidence. I am committed to 
being accountable and transparent in executing the duties of ASN(RDA), 
if confirmed, in accordance with all governing laws, policies, and 
regulations. I would expect the same for every individual within Navy's 
acquisition organization. I would also ensure there is clear and 
unambiguous guidance on the conduct and expectations that governs our 
actions.
    Question. If confirmed, how would you propose to hold acquisition 
officers accountable for using authorities to accelerate the fielding 
of critical capabilities and within all applicable acquisition laws and 
regulations?
    Answer. Acquisition officers must have the responsibilities, 
authorities, and accountability to carry out their assigned mission. I 
expect acquisition officers to execute their duties in accordance with 
the laws directed by Congress and the policies and regulations within 
the Department. If confirmed, I would ensure that I provide direct 
oversight to ensure that the authorities being requested or used are 
appropriate and consistent with laws and policy.
    Question. If confirmed, what steps would you take to ensure that 
senior leaders of the Navy under your supervision and oversight are 
properly held accountable for their actions and performance?
    Answer. Every action we take on behalf of the American public must 
be consistent with the laws, policies, and regulations that govern our 
actions. If confirmed, I would ensure that senior leaders under my 
supervision clearly understand the standards of conduct that govern our 
actions. If an accountable individual fails to uphold these standards, 
I would recommend actions to enforce the accountability.
        management and development of the acquisition workforce
    Question. The transformation of the armed forces has brought with 
it an increasing realization of the importance of efficient and forward 
thinking management of the acquisition workforce.
    What is your vision for the management and development of the Navy 
and Marine Corps acquisition workforce, including the scientific and 
technical fields?
    Answer. This is an exciting time to be leading the acquisition of 
Naval capabilities. I have researched and published on how to improve 
delivery of capability at the speed of need. My most recent efforts in 
this area include an updated strategy for the improvement of 
operational test and evaluation, the center focus of which is to 
acknowledge that capability improvement as a life cycle strategy is a 
growing aspect of the military portfolio. If confirmed, I would explore 
how to develop the acquisition workforce to take full advantage of new 
tools and methods now available to accelerate excellence in 
performance, at scale. If confirmed, I will work with the Naval 
acquisition team to meld their innovations with validated research, 
proven best practices, past successes from both the Navy and other 
elements of the DOD to bring excellence to the warfighter.
    Question. Do you believe that the Department of the Navy has an 
appropriately sized acquisition workforce, with the proper skills, to 
manage the Department into the future?
    Answer. If confirmed, I would examine the current needs of the 
Naval acquisition workforce and analyze that against the demands being 
made of them for technical and business excellence, both now and in the 
future. If there are noted weaknesses, I will utilize available 
authorities to close those gaps, and where necessary work with the 
Secretary of the Navy and Congress to get any other authorities that 
might be needed to ensure the acquisition community can live up to the 
high standards necessary to support our sailors and marines.
    Question. Do you recommend any changes to the statutes, 
regulations, or policies regarding the Department of the Navy's 
acquisition workforce? If so, please describe.
    Answer. At this time, I do not recommend any changes to statutes, 
regulations, or policies. If confirmed, I will carefully examine the 
statutes, regulations, and policies governing the DON's acquisition 
workforce and make any necessary recommendations to the Secretary of 
the Navy.
    Question. How will you work with the Defense Acquisition University 
and other educational institutions to improve the education and 
training of acquisition officials?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will collaborate with the Defense 
Acquisition University to influence the continued creation of 
credentials necessary for DON military and civilians in the Acquisition 
Workforce. Professional currency is a mainstay to ensure acquisition 
professionals have the necessary tools to perform their mission.
    Question. In your judgment, how should decisionmakers determine 
which acquisition tasks are best accomplished by government employees, 
military personnel, and support contractors?
    Answer. In order to acquire systems and services, the DON must have 
an acquisition workforce with the best combination of skill and 
experience. If confirmed, I will review the processes in place to 
ensure the Department is selecting the right team members for the task.
                        anti-access/area denial
    Question. Do you believe emerging anti-access and area denial 
capabilities have been given appropriate concern by the Navy?
    Answer. Yes, the CNO's 2022 Navigation Plan specifically highlights 
the importance of free and open access to the seas, and China's designs 
to deny United States Navy access to the western Pacific and beyond. I 
believe that Sea control and power projection provide freedom of 
maneuver and deter aggression, and are foundational to the CNO's 
priority to strengthen integrated deterrence.
    Question. What additional steps do you believe the Navy and Marine 
Corps need to be taking now and in the next few years to ensure 
continued access to all strategically important segments of the 
maritime domain?
    Answer. I fully support the National Defense Strategy, which 
highlights key actions to mitigate adversary anti-access/area-denial 
(A2AD) capabilities, including: developing concepts and capabilities 
that improve our ability to reliably hold at risk those military forces 
and assets that are essential to adversary operational success, while 
managing escalations; building a lethal force that possesses A2AD-
insensitive strike capabilities that can penetrate adversary defenses 
at range; seeking new technologies and hedging against continuing 
adversary missile developments and emerging capabilities; and 
collaborating with Allies and partners to strengthen defensive A2AD 
capabilities and indications and warnings. If confirmed, I look forward 
to working with the Navy and Marine Corps in executing the National 
Defense Strategy and ensuring open access to the seas.
  sustaining air power and logistics support in great power conflicts
    Question. The People's Republic of China's (PRC) anti-access/area 
denial strategy includes deploying massive numbers of long-range ground 
attack missiles and formidable long-range air defense systems and 
capabilities. The PRC's ground-attack missiles are intended to threaten 
the airfields and carriers from which fixed-wing aircraft are launched 
and recovered, and thereby limit the effectiveness of United States 5th 
generation fighters and limit our ability to conduct re-supply 
operations using existing transport aircraft.
    Broadly speaking, what technical and operational approaches do you 
think are viable to operate from locations that are within PRC missile 
ranges? What relative priority and importance do you ascribe to these 
approaches?
    Answer. I understand that China is the pacing challenge to United 
States national security, and the pacing challenge of the National 
Defense Strategy. They continue to rapidly advance and expand their 
warfighting capabilities. If confirmed, I look forward to working with 
the Joint Staff and CNO to better understand the threats from our 
adversaries, and the technical and operational approaches that the 
Department of Defense is developing to counter such threats. I intend 
to play an active role in developing and delivering the capabilities 
needed to protect United States national interests in the critical 
Indo-Pacific region.
                         energy and acquisition
    Question. How can our acquisition systems better incorporate 
improved efficiency and conservation of energy in military platforms, 
and how, if at all, are assessments of future requirements taking into 
account energy demands as a key performance parameter?
    Answer. If confirmed, I will work with Department leaders to pursue 
a comprehensive approach to improving our platforms and weapons systems 
operational reach, reducing their fuel requirements, and enhancing 
their lethality. Improving the energy performance of platforms and 
weapons systems is essential to providing a combat effective force that 
is capable in wartime and efficient in day-to-day operations. In my 
view, the acquisition system can be improved to increase the efficiency 
of platforms by focusing not only on policy improvements, but 
improvements in engineering, design tools, and organization.
                           sexual harassment
    Question. In responding to the 2018 DOD Civilian Employee Workplace 
and Gender Relations survey, 17.7 percent of female and 5.8 percent of 
male DOD employees indicated that they had experienced sexual 
harassment and/or gender discrimination by ``someone at work'' in the 
12 months prior to completing the survey.
    What is your assessment of the current climate regarding sexual 
harassment and gender discrimination in the office of the ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. I am not aware of any complaints or grievances associated 
with sexual harassment or gender discrimination within ASN (RDA). 
However, if confirmed, it is my intent to stay attuned to the operating 
environment and morale of the workforce to ensure the safety and mutual 
respect of all assigned employees through enforcement of all current 
DoD and DON policies regarding these matters.
    Question. If confirmed, what actions would you take were you to 
receive or become aware of a complaint of sexual harassment or 
discrimination from an employee of the Office of the ASN(RDA)?
    Answer. The DON's policy on sexual harassment, misconduct and 
discrimination is very clear in emphasizing that any of these actions 
will result in immediate corrective, administrative, and/or 
disciplinary action. If confirmed, I will clearly support this and make 
it a top priority to stay abreast of the organization's continuous 
implementation of the policy. If made aware of any complaints, I will 
ensure swift action is taken to lawfully investigate and that 
appropriate measures are carried out in accordance with DON policy 
while continuing to promote an environment of trust in the Department.
                        congressional oversight
    Question. In order to exercise its legislative and oversight 
responsibilities, it is important that this Committee and other 
appropriate committees of Congress are able to receive testimony, 
briefings, reports, records (including documents and electronic 
communications) and other information from the executive branch.
    Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, and on request, 
to appear and testify before this Committee, its subcommittees, and 
other appropriate committees of Congress? Please answer with a simple 
yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
provide this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate committees 
of Congress, and their respective staffs such witnesses and briefers, 
briefings, reports, records (including documents and electronic 
communications), and other information as may be requested of you, and 
to do so in a timely manner? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
consult with this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate 
committees of Congress, and their respective staffs, regarding your 
basis for any delay or denial in providing testimony, briefings, 
reports, records--including documents and electronic communications, 
and other information requested of you? Please answer with a simple yes 
or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
keep this Committee, its subcommittees, other appropriate committees of 
Congress, and their respective staffs apprised of new information that 
materially impacts the accuracy of testimony, briefings, reports, 
records--including documents and electronic communications, and other 
information you or your organization previously provided? Please answer 
with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, and on 
request, to provide this Committee and its subcommittees with records 
and other information within their oversight jurisdiction, even absent 
a formal Committee request? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
respond timely to letters to, and/or inquiries and other requests of 
you or your organization from individual Senators who are members of 
this Committee? Please answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.
    Question. Do you agree, without qualification, if confirmed, to 
ensure that you and other members of your organization protect from 
retaliation any military member, Federal employee, or contractor 
employee who testifies before, or communicates with this Committee, its 
subcommittees, and any other appropriate committee of Congress? Please 
answer with a simple yes or no.
    Answer. Yes.

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                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
                              shipbuilding
    1. Senator Kaine. Mr. Guertin, if confirmed, what role do you see 
for you and your office in building the 30-year shipbuilding plan?
    Mr. Guertin. I am committed to building a naval force with 
sufficient size and capability to campaign effectively, deter 
aggression, and, if required, win decisively in combat. The 30-year 
shipbuilding plan is an important planning document for both the 
Department and our industrial base partners. If confirmed I will work 
closely with the Secretary of the Navy, the Chief of Naval Operations 
(CNO) and the Commandant of the Marine Corps (CMC) to continuously 
review the quantities and types of ships--and the capabilities/mission 
they support--to meet the evolving demands of the National Defense 
Strategy and deliver an initial set of capabilities integrated into 
flexible platforms that are relevant to the current challenges of the 
fleet while also preserving the ability to grow and improve over the 
life cycle.. In addition, I will work closely with industrial base 
partners to ensure they have a consistent and predictable demand signal 
and are aligned to support the goals of the 30-year shipbuilding and 
sustainment plans. I will work to balance the industrial base capacity 
across the entire enterprise to ensure industry can build deliver and 
support the required capabilities needed in the future on time with 
predictable cost.

    2. Senator Kaine. Mr. Guertin, how can the Navy get creative to 
address program delays and ship delivery delays?
    Mr. Guertin. In my view, it is critical to balance resources, 
requirements, and acquisition management processes to ensure the timely 
delivery of capability to the warfighter. To achieve more reliable 
long-term successes, the Navy and Marine Corps must do two things; 
compose functionality in risk-prudent deployable elements, and embrace 
the inherent need to improve capability over time Both of these must be 
addressed as fundamental design requirements, to ensure that the Fleet 
and Force can fluidly integrate evolving technologies as they reach 
sufficient maturity and readiness levels such that they can risk-
prudently moved to production and affordably deployed at scale.
    If confirmed, I will work with the CNO, CMC, and the Naval 
acquisition team to identify potential improvements in acquisition 
processes and adopt other proven practices such as open architecture 
precepts, early prototyping, incorporation of land-based test sites, 
leveraging parent designs, embracing of rigorously researched design 
practices to ensure that designs are mature prior to production
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                      amphibious ship acquisition
    3. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Guertin, the Fiscal Year 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) required the Navy to maintain a fleet 
of 31 amphibious ships. The Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget treats that 
requirement like more of a suggestion. It retires three LSDs (land 
ship, docks) and provides for exactly one amphibious ship over the next 
5 years. I am told that the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) is 
conducting yet another amphibious ship study to determine the path 
forward. The Navy risks a massive disruption to the amphibious ships 
industrial base with a 5 year pause, one that will assuredly drive up 
cost and decrease readiness at a time when the Nation needs the Marine 
Corps and Navy to be the most ready. If confirmed, will you commit to 
developing an acquisition strategy for amphibious ships that follows 
that law in a threat-informed timelines?
    Mr. Guertin. If confirmed I am committed to developing an 
acquisition strategy that delivers the required amphibious ship 
capabilities on schedule and on cost. I understand the importance of 
providing industry a clear and steady demand-signal so they can 
effectively support future demand, and will work to balance industrial 
base capacity across the entire enterprise to ensure they can build and 
deliver the required capabilities needed in the future.

    4. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Guertin, do you believe that multi-year 
contracts for amphibious ships are a viable way to lower costs and 
ensure industrial base stability?
    Mr. Guertin. In my view, multi-year and multi-ship contracts are 
examples of smart acquisition strategies that support achieving best 
value. Multi-year and multi-ship contracts provide long-term stability 
to the industrial base and have shown the ability to provide 
significant savings over single-ship procurements. If confirmed, I will 
evaluate all procurement strategies to ensure consideration of the most 
affordable and predictable methods authorized by Congress.
                navy unmanned surface vessel acquisition
    5. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Guertin, last week, Task Force-59 (TF-59) 
and the United Arab Emirates completed the first ever unmanned surface 
vessel (USV) bi-lateral exercise. In early fall, TF-59 conducted joint 
USV and surface ship exercises alongside many of our Middle Eastern 
partners and the United Kingdom. USVs allow us to conduct intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance to develop domain awareness with 
little risk to human life. TF-59's model can be replicated with 7th 
Fleet in the Pacific and 6th Fleet in Europe. Do you think the Navy's 
acquisition process is capable of acquiring and maintaining unmanned 
surface vessels around the globe like TF-59 is doing in U.S. Central 
Command (CENTCOM)?
    Mr. Guertin. The Navy and broader Department of Defense have long 
used experimentation to support innovation and develop solutions to 
challenging military problems. At their core, experimentation and 
exercises are foundational learning tools to inform and assess maturing 
technologies into warfighting capabilities, and to refine technology 
Concepts of Employment (CONEMPs) into Concepts of Operations (CONOPS). 
Operational experiments and technology demonstrating exercises--like 
Task Force-59 (TF-59) efforts--are bringing together discovery-based 
exploration of emerging warfighting capabilities and rigorous 
evaluation of associated technologies. If confirmed, I am fully 
committed to evaluating the outputs from these efforts and working with 
our industrial base partners to produce, integrate, operationalize, and 
scale successful outcomes into acquisition programs.

    6. Senator Sullivan. Mr. Guertin, if confirmed, will you commit to 
developing an acquisition strategy that can scale the TF-59 model to 
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) and U.S. European Command 
(EUCOM)?
    Mr. Guertin. Yes. If confirmed, I am fully committed to working 
with the CNO and CMC to ensure that the acquisition community and 
industrial base can deliver on the operational needs and strategies 
that TF-59 and others have shown great creativity in building. With the 
lessons learned from TF-59 and other experimentation events, I will 
work closely with the Service Chiefs to integrate and scale successful 
outcomes into appropriate acquisition strategies.
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    [The nomination of Honorable Nickolas H. Guertin was 
reported to the Senate by Chairman Reed on March 28, 2023, with 
the recommendation that the nomination be confirmed. The 
nomination was confirmed by the Senate on December 13, 2023.]

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