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                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION 
 REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND THE FUTURE YEARS 
                            DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                                HEARINGS

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION
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     TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 FOR MILITARY 
ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND 
   FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE 
   MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER 
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                                                 S. Hrg. 118-741, Pt. 7

                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION 
 REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND THE FUTURE YEARS 
                            DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                                HEARINGS

                               before the

                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

                                   ON

                                S. 4638

     TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 FOR MILITARY 
ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND 
   FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE 
   MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER 
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                 JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman   
                 
                         
JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire              ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi               
KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York            DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut            TOM COTTON, Arkansas
MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii                    MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
TIM KAINE, Virginia                        JONI K. ERNST, Iowa
ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine                  DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts            KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
GARY C. PETERS, Michigan                   RICK SCOTT, Florida 
JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia             TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois                  MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada                        TED BUDD, North Carolina
MARK KELLY, Arizona                        ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri      
                                     
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The Department of Defense Missile Defense Activities.............     1

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Angus King..................................     1

Statement of Senator Deb Fischer.................................    30

                           Witness Statements

Hill, John D., Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space        2
  and Missile Defense, Department of Defense.

Guillot, General Gregory M., USAF, Commander, United States           8
  Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command.

Gainey, Lieutenant General Sean A., USA, Commanding General,         17
  United States Army Space and Missile Defense Command.

Collins, Lieutenant General Heath A., USAF, Director, Missile        23
  Defense Agency.

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Department of Defense Space Activities...........................    45

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Angus King..................................    45

Statement of Senator Deb Fischer.................................    46

                           Witness Statements

Hill, John D., Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space       46
  and Missile Defense, Department of Defense.

Calvelli, Hon. Frank, Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for       52
  Space Acquisition and Integration.

Guetlein, General Michael A., USSF, Vice Chief of Space              58
  Operations.

Questions for the Record.........................................    83

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The Department of Energy's Atomic Energy Defense Activities and      93
  Department of Defense Nuclear Weapons Program.

                           Members Statements

Statement of Senator Angus King..................................    93

Statement of Senator Deb Fischer.................................    94

                           Witness Statements

Hruby, Ms. Jill M., Administrator of the Nation Nuclear Security     94
  Administration.

Houston, Admiral William J., USN, Deputy Administrator for the        95
  Office of Naval Reactors, National Nuclear Security 
  Administration.

White, Mr. William, Senior Advisor for Environmental Management,     101
  Department of Energy.

Adams, Dr. Marvin L., Deputy Administrator for Defense Programs,     113
  National Nuclear Security Administration.

Wolfe, Vice Admiral Johnny R., Jr., USN, Director for Strategic      124
  Systems Programs, Department of the Navy.

Bussiere, General Thomas A., USAF, Commander of Airforce Global      131
  Strike Command.

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                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION 
 REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2025 AND THE FUTURE YEARS 
                            DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         WEDNESDAY, MAY 8, 2024

                  United States Senate,    
          Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

            DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE MISSILE DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 4:53 p.m. in 
room SR-222, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Angus King 
(Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: King, Rosen, Fischer, Cotton, 
and Rounds.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS KING

    Senator King.--[Technical issues.] this hearing before the 
Subcommittee. Thank you for your service.
    The purpose of today's hearing is to examine the 
President's Budget Request for the Missile Agency and missile 
defense policies in preparation for the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2025. We are working on that 
now, and we are hoping the markup on that bill will be at the 
end of this month. So now is the time.
    In today's open hearing I hope that we can address a number 
of issues. First and foremost is the defense against hypersonic 
missiles, which we seem woefully unprepared for. Woefully--that 
is an understatement. Second is the requirement to protect Guam 
against any threats that China may pose, a daunting task that 
integrates missile defense from the Army, Navy, and the Missile 
Defense Agency.
    The third issue is how today's threat landscape has changed 
the nature of integrated air and missile defense, given the 
conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East. Ukraine faces all 
forms of air threats, from drones to hypersonic missiles. 
Likewise, the recent events in the Middle East and Iran's April 
14th attack included over 300 drones, cruise, and ballistic 
missiles launched toward Israel. I realize much is classified, 
but it is important for the public to understand how today's 
missile defense landscape has radically changed in the last 5 
years.
    The Fiscal Year 2025 President's Budget Request for Missile 
Defense Agency is $10.4 billion, a decrease from 2024 enacted 
budget of $10.8 billion. I would like to know how the fiscal 
year 2025 budget request continues your effort for Homeland and 
regional missile defense as well as defense against hypersonic 
weapons.
    I understand that a mainstay of the AEGIS destroyer, the 
SM-3 IB missile, was zeroed out this year. I need to understand 
the impacts of such a decision and the basis thereof.
    Again, I want to thank our witnesses for agreeing to appear 
today, and we will have rounds of 5-minute questions to the 
witnesses.
    Senator Rounds, Senator Fisher is on her way. She will be 
here shortly. She gave me permission to start.
    Senator Rounds. I have no doubt.
    Senator King. Yes, but you know that I would not have 
without that permission.
    Senator Rounds. Of course.
    Senator King. So, Mr. Hill, are you lead witness?
    Mr. Hill. Certainly. Thank you, Chairman.
    Senator King. Please proceed.

   STATEMENT OF JOHN D. HILL, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF 
  DEFENSE FOR SPACE AND MISSILE DEFENSE, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

    Mr. Hill. Chairman King and Ranking Member Fischer and 
distinguished members of the subcommittee, on behalf of the 
office of the Secretary of Defense thank you for the 
opportunity to testify on the topic of the President's missile 
defense budget. You have my full written statement. I ask that 
it be included in the record. Thank you.
    I want to begin by expressing my sincere gratitude to this 
Committee for your bipartisan approach and steadfast support of 
the Department's missile defense plans, programs, and posture 
to fulfill the Nation's missile defense needs. I also want to 
acknowledge and express my appreciation for the crucial role 
this Committee played in passing the National Security 
Supplemental, including the $60 billion for Ukraine.
    Conflicts around the globe continue to demonstrate the 
centrality of missiles in modern warfare and global strategy 
and the indispensable role of integrated air and missile 
defenses in protecting military capabilities, civilian 
populations, and national sovereignty. Conflicts in Ukraine and 
the Middle East likewise provide daily reminders of the 
indispensability of our alliances and the national security 
imperative of standing with our allies around the world.
    To meet the challenges of missile defense, the President's 
Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request includes $28.4 billion for 
missile defense and defeat. Key investments include $2.5 
billion to develop the next-generation Interceptor for ground-
based, mid-course defense, and to extend the service life of 
the current Ground-Based Interceptors; $1.9 billion for 
ballistic and hypersonic defense programs; $4.7 billion for 
space-based missile warning systems; $1.5 billion for the Army 
and Missile Defense Agency for the development and procurement 
of the Guam defense system.
    These and other investments in missile defenses and 
advanced early warning systems will continue to expand decision 
space for our military and civilian leaders, preserve our 
forces' freedom of maneuver, and strengthen our integrated 
deterrence and overall defense posture.
    Keeping pace against rapidly evolving threats requires 
continued improvement in our active missile defenses as well as 
pursuit of comprehensive missile defeat approaches to expand 
our response options. The Department is prioritizing efforts 
across the entire engagement space to improve the probability 
of a successful intercept and improve the efficiency with which 
we conduct missile engagements and defeat missile threats. To 
achieve these goals we are developing and fielding better 
sensors, on earth and in space, that can provide higher 
fidelity warning, tracking, discrimination, and kill assessment 
data.
    The Department is also putting a greater emphasis on non-
kinetic missile defeat capabilities, including options in 
directed energy, electronic warfare, and cyber, which expand 
both right-of-launch and left-of-launch options against the 
evolving threats.
    In closing, thank you again to the Committee for your 
partnership and for your tireless dedication to the Department 
and our servicemembers. Additionally, I want to thank each of 
you for your service to your constituents and to the Nation. I 
look forward to answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. John D. Hill follows:]

                   Prepared Statement by John D. Hill
                              introduction
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished members of 
the Subcommittee. On behalf of the Office of the Secretary of Defense, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify on the topic of the 
President's ``Missile Defense Budget.'' I am honored to join Lieutenant 
General Heath Collins from the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), Lieutenant 
General Sean Gainey from the U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense 
Command (SMDC), and General Gregory M. Guillot from U.S. Northern 
Command (USNORTHCOM).
    Today, I will review how air and missile threats have evolved over 
the last year, provide an update on our progress in policy and strategy 
implementation, and explain how the Department's fiscal year 2025 
budget request of $28.4 billion for missile defense and missile defeat 
programs supports continued efforts.
                          the evolving threat
    As the 2022 Missile Defense Review (MDR) highlights, missiles are 
``a principal means by which adversaries seek to project conventional 
or nuclear military power.'' Conflicts around the globe continue to 
demonstrate the centrality of missiles in modern warfare and global 
strategy, and the indispensable role of integrated air and missile 
defenses (IAMD) in protecting military capabilities, civilian 
populations, and national sovereignty.
    It has been over 2 years since Russia launched its full-scale 
invasion of Ukraine. In response, Ukraine's employment of a wide array 
of air and missile defenses--including legacy fundamental to defending 
Ukrainian forces and civilians, protecting critical infrastructure, and 
preserving freedom, self-determination, and sovereignty against 
ruthless, authoritarian aggression. Innovative solutions and 
resourcefulness have embodied these efforts, as seen through the 
example of the ``FrankenSAM'' program, wherein the Department of 
Defense, working with Ukrainian forces, successfully adapted legacy 
Ukrainian launchers to utilize Western-supplied missiles, enabling more 
widespread air and missile defense coverage than would otherwise be 
achievable. Meanwhile, Russia is adapting by bolstering its production 
of missiles and drones and acquiring additional systems from Iran and 
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK).
    In the Middle East, Iran-backed militant groups have targeted 
Israel, U.S. military forces, and maritime commercial shipping 
operating in the Red Sea, the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, and the Gulf of 
Aden. Hamas, Lebanese Hizballah, the Houthis, and Iran-aligned militia 
groups (IAMG) in Iraq and Syria accept Iranian military support in many 
forms, including capabilities such as uncrewed aerial vehicles, 
ballistic missiles, and cruise missiles. In the aftermath of the 
October 7 attacks, the United States temporarily transferred its two 
Iron Dome batteries to Israel and replenished Iron Dome interceptors. 
The United States has relied on air and missile defenses, such as the 
Navy's AEGIS Weapon System with Standard Missiles and the Phalanx 
close-range defense system, to counter threats to our forces, 
commercial shipping, and our partners in the region. Additionally, the 
United States surged Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) and 
PATRIOT to the region. Most recently, Israel's successful employment on 
April 13 of IAMD, with support from the United States and other 
countries, to defend itself against Iran's direct attacks with drones, 
cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles underscored the 
indispensability of IAMD in modern military posture.
    to develop a range of missile capabilities that--combined with 
coercive activities--threaten regional stability. As outlined in the 
National Defense Strategy, the most comprehensive and serious challenge 
to U.S. national security is the PRC's coercive and increasingly 
aggressive efforts to refashion the Indo-Pacific region and 
international system to suit its authoritarian preferences. The PRC is 
also developing and growing its offensive arsenal, including rapid 
advancement of ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise missile capabilities. 
As highlighted in the Department's 2023 China Military Power Report, 
the PRC is developing a hypersonic glide vehicle that is likely 
intended to be capable of striking U.S., allied, and partner military 
bases and fleets in the Indo-Pacific region.
    The DPRK also continues to diversify its missile and nuclear 
programs in line with Kim Jong Un's defense modernization goals. In 
2023, the DPRK launched a solid-propellant intercontinental ballistic 
missile (ICBM) and a purported submarine-launched cruise missile. The 
DPRK also continues to diversify its launch platforms. The DPRK also 
unveiled a new ballistic missile submarine and tested an underwater 
drone that it claimed was nuclear-capable. Finally, in March 2023, Kim 
inspected what the DPRK claimed was a tactical nuclear weapon. These 
programs both undermine regional stability and expand DPRK missile 
threats to the U.S. Homeland.
                      u.s. missile defense policy
    The 2022 MDR describes missile defense as ``a core deterrence-by-
denial component of an integrated deterrence strategy.'' Missile 
defenses are integral to achieving the National Defense Strategy's top 
priorities of defending the Homeland and deterring strategic attacks 
missile use by:

      reinforcing U.S. diplomatic and security posture;

      reassuring allies and partners that the United States 
will not be deterred from fulfilling its global security commitments;

      introducing doubt and uncertainty into adversary attack 
planning;

      raising the threshold for conflict by reducing 
adversaries' incentives to conduct small-scale, coercive attacks;

      denying the benefits of an uncontested attack by 
adversaries; and

      mitigating damage should deterrence fail.

In short, missile defenses, paired with advanced early warning systems, 
expand the decision space for our military and civilian leaders and 
preserve our forces' freedom of maneuver.
    As Russia's war in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East 
demonstrate, kinetic interceptors remain the primary means to defend 
against offensive missile, artillery, and rocket attacks. To keep pace 
against this rapidly evolving threat requires continued improvement of 
our active missile defenses as well as pursuit of comprehensive missile 
defeat approaches to expand our response options.
    To address these challenges, the Department is prioritizing efforts 
across the entire engagement space to improve the probability of a 
successful intercept and reduce interceptor salvo size. To achieve 
these goals, we are developing and fielding better sensors--on Earth 
and in space--that can provide higher fidelity warning, tracking, and 
kill assessment data to reduce the number of interceptors required to 
defeat each incoming threat missile. These investments will also 
deliver improved fire control and discrimination capabilities. Space-
based sensors both homeland and regional missile warning, missile 
tracking, and missile defense architectures. The Department is also 
putting a greater emphasis on both kinetic and non-kinetic missile 
defeat capabilities, which encompass right-of-launch and left-of-launch 
capabilities, to expand our options against these threats.
                              investments
    For fiscal year 2025, the President's Budget Request includes $28.4 
billion for missile defeat and defense to defend the Homeland, our 
deployed forces, allies, and partners against increasingly complex 
missile threats. Important missile defense and defeat investments 
include:

      $2.5 billion to develop the Next Generation Interceptor 
(NGI) for ground-based midcourse defense, and to extend the service 
life of the current Ground Based Interceptors (GBI).

      $1.9 billion for ballistic and hypersonic defense 
programs, which includes $175 million for the Glide Phase Interceptor 
(MDA), $653 million for SM-6 Block IA (Navy), and $963 million for PAC-
3 Missile Segment Enhancement (Army).

      $4.7 billion for Space-Based Missile Warning Systems, 
which includes $2.6 billion in resilient low Earth orbit (LEO) and 
medium Earth orbit (MEO) missile warning/missile tracking systems, and 
$2.1 billion in Overhead Persistent Infrared (OPIR) Systems.

      $1.5 billion for the Army and MDA for the development and 
procurement of the Guam Defense System.

      $1.3 billion for Sea-Based Weapons Systems. The 
Department will stop procurement of the SM-3 Block IB missile after 
fiscal year 2024.

      $1.0 billion for Army IAMD.

      $1.0 billion for Lower Tier Air Missile Defense Sensor 
(LTAMDS) research, development, test, and evaluation (RDT&E).

      $384 million for Over-the-Horizon Radar modernization and 
Cruise Missile Defense of the Homeland.

    The Department's fiscal year 2025 missile defense and defeat budget 
meets evolving threats head-on as one critical element of the 
Department's broader integrated deterrence strategy.
Homeland Missile Defense
    As stated in the National Defense Strategy, the Department's top 
priority is to defend the U.S. Homeland. The United States relies on 
strategic deterrence to address and deter large intercontinental-range 
nuclear missile threats to the Homeland from the PRC and Russia. The 
Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) System protects the Homeland--
including Hawaii and Alaska--against ICBM threats from the DPRK and 
potentially Iran, if it were to develop an ICBM capability. The most 
technically effective, least costly, and rapid approach to staying 
ahead of the growing DPRK threat and the potential Iranian threat is to 
increase our ability to successfully prosecute a missile defense 
engagement and reduce the numbers of interceptors needed to accomplish 
an engagement. To this end, in addition to sensor developments and 
deployments previously discussed, we are developing the NGI for ground-
based midcourse defense. We plan to emplace the first NGI by 2028, and 
to acquire 20 NGIs for deployment at potentially replacing the existing 
GBI.
    In September 2023, Secretary Austin issued policy guidance for Air 
and Cruise Missile Defense of the Homeland. The Secretary's action 
followed a comprehensive re-assessment of our approach to air defense 
of the Homeland as currently reflected in Operation NOBLE EAGLE. The 
revised guidance will inform development of future years' budgets for 
the investments necessary to pace homeland air and cruise missile 
defense activities to the growing multi-domain threat posed by the PRC 
while also accounting for the acute threat posed by Russia. In the near 
term, to address the emergent threat posed by advanced cruise missiles, 
the Department is taking such measures as fielding over-the-horizon 
radars and cloud-based command and control systems that will improve 
our ability to detect and respond to potential strikes and thereby 
decrease the risks from cruise missile strikes against U.S. critical 
assets.
    Additionally, following the Deputy Secretary's 2022 designation of 
a lead Military Department to begin planning for and coordinating the 
acquisition of air and cruise missile defenses of the Homeland, the Air 
Force, with the support of the Army, is nearing completion of a 
comprehensive analysis of alternatives that will inform our investments 
in this strategically important capability.
    The 2022 MDR is clear that an attack on Guam or any other U.S. 
territory by any adversary will be considered a direct attack on the 
United States and will be met with an appropriate response. The 
architecture for defense of Guam against diverse missile attacks 
therefore must be commensurate with its unique status as an unequivocal 
part of the United States, its vital geography, and the numerous 
operational capabilities it hosts. The Department is developing and 
funding a persistent 360-degree layered defense capability to protect 
Guam against simultaneous raids of cruise, ballistic, maneuvering, and 
hypersonic threats. MDA is impacts and required mitigation associated 
with an Enhanced IAMD system for the defense of Guam.
    The Department's efforts to create a layered IAMD architecture on 
Guam are neither simple nor without cost. We have to join together 
diverse, Military Service-specific IAMD capabilities with broader 
command and control systems into an optimal mix of sensors and 
shooters. IAMD systems--with both active and passive features--must 
also be linked with other elements of offensive military posture. These 
are just a few examples of the challenges that we face as we pursue 
this top priority of U.S. Homeland IAMD in the Indo-Pacific region.
Regional Missile Defense
    The United States has developed layered, conventionally armed, 
multi-domain missile defense architectures to protect our deployed 
forces and support our allies and partners against theater-range 
threats. For example:

      On land, the United States fields THAAD batteries to 
counter short-range ballistic missiles (SRBM), medium-range ballistic 
missiles (MRBM) and intermediate-range ballistic missiles (IRBM), as 
well as PATRIOT battalions for terminal defenses against SRBM and MRBM, 
cruise missiles, aircraft, and uncrewed aircraft systems (UAS). The 
Army will field the first Indirect Fire Protection Capability (IFPC) 
battery, designed to defeat cruise missiles, UAS, and rocket, 
artillery, and mortars, in fiscal year 2026. IFPC is currently 
undergoing developmental testing and is scheduled to move to 
operational assessment later this year.

      In the maritime domain, the United States continues to 
improve AEGIS ballistic missile defense-capable destroyers and cruisers 
loaded with a variety of SM-2, and the Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile 
(ESSM). Additionally, in conjunction with Japan, MDA is developing the 
Glide Phase Interceptor to defend against regional hypersonic threats.
Space Contributions to Homeland and Regional Missile Defense
      In the space domain, the U.S. Space Force (USSF) has 
commenced launching tranches of LEO satellites every 2 years to provide 
robust global coverage for missile warning, missile tracking, and low-
latency, fire-control quality data for weapons engagement within the 
Missile Defense System. USSF is leveraging the advances made by MDA's 
Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor (HBTSS) prototype 
program to contribute to this roadmap. In February, MDA and the USSF 
launched two HBTSS prototype satellites into orbit.

      USSF plans include fielding two epochs of MEO satellites 
by fiscal year 2031 to perform missile warning and missile tracking. A 
full LEO and MEO constellation will have the ability to detect and 
track hypersonic weapons, ballistic missiles, and raids in a high-
clutter environment through missile burnout.

      USSF also plans to launch two Next-Generation OPIR 
geosynchronous Earth orbit satellites by fiscal year 2027, and two 
Next-Generation OPIR polar satellites by fiscal year 2031 to perform 
missile warning.
                          allies and partners
NATO
    At the 2023 NATO Summit in Vilnius, NATO Allies committed to 
further strengthening the commitment, several ongoing NATO IAMD 
initiatives are increasing NATO IAMD capability, improving Allied air 
surveillance, increasing the Alliance's IAMD readiness and posture, and 
enhancing NATO's BMD capability. Likewise, NATO Allies continue to 
acquire their own IAMD capabilities through national, bilateral, and 
multilateral frameworks, including some that the United States is 
directly supporting, and which further strengthen NATO's deterrence and 
defense. NATO's announcement earlier this year that the Alliance would 
facilitate on behalf of a coalition of Allies the acquisition of up to 
1,000 PATRIOT interceptors and support the construction of a PATRIOT 
production facility in Germany exemplifies this trend. As a member of 
the Alliance, the United States is contributing technical, 
programmatic, and policy expertise to inform these initiatives. In 
addition, the United States is on track to complete the Aegis Ashore 
site in Poland later this spring and transfer command and control of 
the capability to NATO this July.
Europe
    The Department is working closely with our European Allies and 
partners on missile defense initiatives to increase their IAMD 
capabilities, improve our collective ability to share data, and 
increase integration between our forces. Allies such as Germany, 
Poland, Romania, Sweden, Finland, Norway, and the Netherlands are 
acquiring their own IAMD capabilities, and building multinational IAMD 
procurement programs such as the European Sky Shield Initiative.
    Air and missile defenses remain vitally important in Ukraine. 
Recent passage of the National Security Supplemental budget, with broad 
bipartisan support, is providing critical support to Ukraine in support 
of United States national security interests. Because of U.S. security 
assistance, and that of our Allies and partners, Ukraine has been able 
to protect its Through the Secretary's Ukraine Defense Contact Group, 
and the multinational IAMD Capability Coalition, the United States and 
dozens of Allies and partners continue to meet Ukraine's urgent 
requirements, including by developing innovative air defense solutions. 
This support remains important to U.S. national security, and that of 
our Allies and partners. The United States--alongside our Allies--
remains steadfast in our commitment to help Ukraine defeat Russia's 
aggression.
Middle East
    The Department continues to partner in the Middle East to design 
and implement an IAMD architecture. U.S. Central Command (USCENTCOM) is 
leading these efforts, which include an array of regular workshops, 
exercises, and trainings. These efforts, combined with security 
cooperation tools, battle management/command, control and 
communications systems, and technical assistance, advance the goal of a 
shared network capable of coordinated defense. Iran's attack on Israel 
on April 13th laid bare the importance of integrated air and missile 
defense. The effectiveness of our defensive efforts on April 13th is an 
output of USCENTCOM's years-long effort to integrate air and missile 
defense and early warning systems. U.S. air and missile defense 
deployments to the region bolster deterrence. U.S. capabilities also 
support our partners' access to early warning missile data and 
information sharing so that they are better able to defend their 
territory and citizens and contribute to wider regional security 
against Iran-backed air and missile threats.
    Through an annual U.S. allocation of $500 million for missile 
defense to Israel, the United States continues its longstanding 
cooperation on co-development, co-production, testing, and fielding of 
the Arrow Weapon System and the David's Sling Weapon System, and co-
additional $1 billion for Iron Dome replenishments and upgrades. Since 
the October 7, 2023 attacks, and as vividly demonstrated again on April 
13, 2024, Israel's missile defense systems have been vital to 
protecting Israel's population against missile attacks from all 
directions.
    The United States continues to work with the Kingdom of Saudi 
Arabia and the United Arab Emirates (UAE) to deliver the combat-proven 
THAAD system to defend against short-range, medium-range, and 
intermediate-range ballistic missile threats. The Department is 
currently executing a $13 billion foreign military sales case to 
deliver seven THAAD batteries to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The first 
THAAD interceptors were delivered in July 2023 and the first THAAD 
battery is on-track to achieve initial operational capability in 2025. 
The UAE has been operating two THAAD batteries since 2016 and, in 
January 2022, successfully executed its first real-world intercept 
against an incoming Houthi ballistic missile. This success has led to 
follow-on efforts with the UAE to acquire additional missile defense 
capabilities and sustain their current systems, valued at $2.9 billion. 
The United States is also currently in the process of delivering to the 
Kingdom of Bahrain its first PATRIOT batteries and expects Bahrain to 
fully operate them in 2025.
Indo-Pacific Region
    As we upgrade U.S. IAMD capabilities throughout the Indo-Pacific 
region, including Guam, we are simultaneously working closely with key 
international partners such as Japan, the Republic of Korea (ROK), and 
Australia. This is not simply a force posture issue. Extending 
deterrence to allies and partners in the region--which includes pursuit 
of a robust IAMD architecture--is an integral aspect of our mission and 
provides reassurance that the United States will uphold its 
international security commitments.
    Our IAMD-related engagement with these allies is robust. Japan--one 
of the United States' strongest partners on missile defense--recently 
concluded a visit by its Prime Minister to Washington, DC. Given 
rapidly increasing Indo-Pacific threats, Japan plans to increase 
defense spending to roughly 2 percent of GDP by its fiscal year 2027, 
with significant new investments in missile defense, counterstrike, 
space, and other capabilities. Prominent among these efforts is the 
counter-hypersonic Glide Phase Interceptor cooperative development 
project, a top priority to which Japan will allocate $1 billion. Glide 
Phase Interceptor cooperative development will build on synergies 
accumulated from decades of United States-Japan missile defense 
cooperation.
    The overall scope of our IAMD cooperation with the ROK has expanded 
significantly under President Yoon's Administration. We have improved 
the ROK's support for the United States' THAAD posture on the Korean 
Peninsula, and we are pursuing additional initiatives aimed at 
improving integration and interoperability.
    Trilaterally, the Department has been actively involved in 
facilitating IAMD cooperation between the ROK and Japan. These efforts 
have resulted in new operational arrangements such as the December 2023 
activation of a trilateral early missile warning data-sharing mechanism 
against DPRK threats.
    We are also working closely with Australia to enhance its regional 
IAMD capabilities. Australia is investing in joint battle management 
systems to improve its interoperability with the United States and 
other allies and partners, and we are actively engaged in broad-based, 
IAMD-focused discussions with the Australians to help drive future 
bilateral collaboration.
    Overall, current U.S. efforts in the Indo-Pacific region are aimed 
at laying the diplomatic, security and technical foundations needed for 
the establishment of a regional IAMD architecture. While this vision of 
connectivity will ultimately take years to realize, near-term 
achievements.
                               conclusion
    As the current war in Ukraine and the conflict in the Middle East 
demonstrate, and as seen in the pacing challenge posed by the PRC and 
the destabilizing threats of the DPRK and Iran, in this era of missile 
centric warfare, active missile defenses are an essential element of a 
credible military force posture and integrated deterrence. The Fiscal 
Year 2025 budget request makes crucial investments in missile defenses 
to protect the Homeland, our forces abroad, and our allies and partners 
around the globe.
    Thank you again for this opportunity to testify and thank you for 
the role this Subcommittee plays in supporting our Homeland and 
regional missile defense interests. I look forward to our discussion 
and to answering your questions.

    Senator King. General, are you going to add to the 
testimony or simply take questions. General? I would love to 
hear from you.

   STATEMENT OF GENERAL GREGORY M. GUILLOT, USAF, COMMANDER, 
  UNITED STATES NORTHERN COMMAND AND NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE 
                        DEFENSE COMMAND

    General Guillot. Yes, sir. Chairman King and distinguished 
Members of the Subcommittee, it is a high honor to command and 
represent the women and men of the North American Aerospace 
Defense Command and United States Central Command, and I thank 
you for the opportunity to testify today.
    I am pleased to appear alongside my friends, Lieutenant 
General Collins, Lieutenant General Gainey, and DASD Hill. 
NORAD and NORTHCOM work very closely with each of them as we 
depend on the robust capabilities they provide that enable and 
empower our missile defense and other critical homeland defense 
missions.
    The United States and Canada face an extraordinarily 
complex strategic environment. Our competitors have fielded 
advanced ballistic and cruise missile systems designed to 
strike civilian and military infrastructure in North America, 
both above and below the nuclear threshold.
    As an update to my previous testimony earlier this year 
before the Armed Services Committee I am increasingly concerned 
by the expanded military cooperation and reported technology 
transfers between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. 
Further, Iran's direct attack against Israel on April 13th 
marked a strategic shift and clearly illustrates the continued 
need for integrated air and missile defense systems to defeat 
threats, ranging from ballistic and cruise missiles to unmanned 
aerial systems. Layered domain awareness systems that detect 
threats from the seabed to space and defensive capabilities 
such as the next-generation Interceptor are critical to the 
homeland defense mission and remain key NORAD and NORTHCOM 
priorities.
    In addition to the missile threats, adversaries' cyber 
capabilities and emerging technologies such as small unmanned 
aerial systems present significant risks to North America's 
critical infrastructure. NORTHCOM and CYBERCOM defend the 
networks daily from adversaries' cyberattacks, and incidents of 
small UAS [unmanned aircraft systems] operating inside the U.S. 
and Canada near civilian and military infrastructure are 
increasing and require timely and well-coordinated interagency 
response.
    The United States, in concert with global network of like-
minded allies and partners requires innovation and engagement 
across the entire spectrum of military, diplomacy, foreign aid, 
and strategic communication to counter our competitors' 
maligned influence and increasing capability to threaten North 
America.
    The Active defense of North America requires NORAD [North 
American Aerospace Defense Command] and NORTHCOM [United States 
Northern Command] to actively campaign in all domains and 
across all avenues of approach. The success of our missions 
relies on detecting potential threats far from our shores and 
quickly sharing critical information between combatant 
commands, conventional and special operations forces, the 
intelligence community, and the spectrum of interagency and 
international partners.
    The importance of that information flow cannot be 
overstated, and I strongly support the Department's work to 
advance the combined Joint All-Domain Command and Control 
concept. The challenges facing our Nation are real, but there 
should be no doubt about NORAD and NORTHCOM's resolve to deter 
aggression, and, if necessary, defeat threats to our nations 
and our citizens.
    Again, thank you, sir, for the opportunity to appear this 
afternoon, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Gregory M. Guillot 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Gregory M. Guillot
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee: thank you for the opportunity to testify today and 
for the honor of representing the men and women of United States 
Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) and North American Aerospace Defense 
Command (NORAD). Since assuming command in early February, my initial 
actions and priorities have included maintaining our vital homeland 
defense mission throughout a seamless leadership transition; 
strengthening USNORTHCOM and NORAD's vital network of Department of 
Defense (DOD), international, private sector, and interagency mission 
partners; and conducting a thorough assessment of the Commands' 
personnel, missions, and resourcing. I look forward to establishing 
personal relationships with leaders throughout the commands' area of 
responsibility and across the U.S. Government as those ties are 
critical to the successful execution of USNORTHCOM and NORAD's no-fail 
missions.
    It is already apparent that the strategic environment facing the 
United States and Canada--and our allies and partners--presents 
significant risks to our Homeland, our citizens, and our vital national 
interests. Across all domains and avenues, competitors are exploiting 
conflicts and crises around the world to undermine U.S. global 
leadership and our democratic institutions. Our competitors continue to 
develop and deploy highly advanced kinetic and non-kinetic weapons 
systems capable of disrupting or defeating military and civilian 
targets in North America. These threats are difficult to detect and can 
strike with limited warning, which reduces the time and response 
options available to our national leaders and increases the risk of 
miscalculation and escalation during periods of heightened tension, 
crisis, and conflict.
    As recent events have made clear, overseas crises increasingly 
carry significant implications for homeland defense. Regional conflicts 
routinely have the potential to expand into broader crises that 
directly impact U.S. and allied interests. Russia's unprovoked war 
against Ukraine and the horrific October 7th Hamas terrorist attacks 
against Israel demonstrate how seemingly isolated events, regardless of 
whether the United States and our allies are directly involved, have 
the potential to reach our own shores. Those ripple effects can include 
competitor information operations directed against the American public 
and civil unrest and violence within the United States, or attacks 
directly targeting the United States and our interests.
    Competitors like the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russia 
are well aware that the U.S. military is the strongest in the world and 
highly capable of deploying forces anywhere on the planet to deter 
aggression and de-escalate potential crises. Accordingly, those 
competitors have sought to hold defense critical infrastructure in the 
United States at risk with kinetic and non-kinetic systems intended to 
impede our ability to flow forces overseas. That strategy must be taken 
into account in planning for the forward deployment of U.S. forces and 
resources, as moving assets overseas has the potential to affect the 
availability of assets assigned to homeland defense or force 
mobilization missions.
    The realities of the 21st Century strategic environment require a 
flexible, adaptive global approach that recognizes the fact that our 
competitors can hold the U.S. Homeland--and the homelands of our allies 
and partners--at risk with conventional, nuclear, and non-kinetic 
capabilities as part of a broad effort to force the United States to 
accept increased risk when deploying forces in support of overseas 
operations. Preserving the full range of options for defending U.S. 
national interests requires homeland defense to remain a fundamental 
consideration at every stage of DOD planning, policy, and budgeting.
    A globally integrated approach to planning and actions must also 
extend beyond the Department of Defense and should be embraced by the 
whole of the U.S. Government. Success in competition, crisis, or 
conflict continues to rely on a ready, modern, and capable joint force 
reinforcing the other core elements of our national power. Our 
diplomatic corps is essential to shaping the strategic environment and 
cultivating the network of alliances and partnerships that provide the 
most significant U.S. advantage against isolated and authoritarian 
competitors seeking to expand their territory and influence at the 
expense of their sovereign neighbors. The successful execution of 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD's missions relies on cohesive strategies, 
integrated planning, and collaboration across the whole of government, 
and I look forward to working closely with the members of this 
Committee as we work together to meet the formidable challenges facing 
our Nation.
                         the threat environment
    The threat to the Homeland continues to grow in complexity. Our 
primary competitors are developing new ways to hold North America at 
risk, both above and below the nuclear threshold. Designed to constrain 
our options in a crisis, the capabilities our potential adversaries are 
pursuing will challenge strategic deterrence and erode strategic 
stability by limiting our ability to provide actionable warning and 
narrowing the decision space available to senior leaders. The conflict 
in the Middle East has also amplified the risk that Iran or a foreign 
terrorist organization will conduct attacks in the Homeland, either 
directly or by inspiring homegrown violent extremists to act in their 
stead.
People's Republic of China (PRC)
    The PRC remains the Department's pacing challenge as identified in 
the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS). Beijing has embarked on a 
wide-ranging military modernization program that is advancing the PRC's 
homeland-threatening capabilities at an urgent pace. At the strategic 
level, the PRC is pursuing a rapid quantitative and qualitative 
expansion of its nuclear arsenal, which now numbers over 500 
operational warheads and is on pace to exceed 1,000 by the end of the 
decade. The PRC probably intends to place a significant portion of 
these weapons--including over 300 newly constructed intercontinental 
ballistic missile (ICBM) silos--in a launch-on-warning posture that 
could increase the risk of miscalculation in a crisis or conflict.
    Beijing's strategic modernization program includes a variety of 
novel weapons designed to bolster the credibility of the PRC's 
strategic deterrent by ensuring its ability to overcome U.S. missile 
defenses and retaliate following a strike. These weapons include ICBMs 
equipped with hypersonic glide vehicles, whose high speed, low 
trajectory, and maneuvering capabilities challenge our ability to 
detect, characterize, and warn of inbound threats. The PRC is also 
developing a fractional orbital bombardment system, designed to further 
challenge our early warning radars and ballistic missile interceptors.
    The Department of Defense's annual report to Congress on PRC 
military developments states that the PRC may also be exploring the 
development of conventionally armed intercontinental-range missile 
systems that could allow Beijing to strike targets in Alaska and the 
continental United States without crossing the nuclear threshold. Such 
systems, if fielded, would further erode strategic stability by 
challenging our ability to characterize an inbound attack and 
complicating our decisionmaking about an appropriate response.
    Turning to the maritime domain, in the last 2 years, the PRC has 
launched the first two hulls of its new Shang III class of nuclear-
powered guided-missile submarines (SSGN). If the PRC arms the Shang III 
with land-attack cruise missiles, the new SSGNs could provide Beijing a 
clandestine land-attack option beyond the Indo-Pacific region, 
potentially holding at risk critical infrastructure in Alaska and the 
U.S. West Coast. While Beijing's intent for employing these long-range 
conventional strike capabilities is not fully known, in a future 
crisis, the PRC could use these weapons--along with its world-class 
offensive cyber capabilities--to threaten or attack our critical 
defense infrastructure in an attempt to dissuade or frustrate our force 
flows across the Pacific and degrade the effectiveness of our forward 
combat operations.
    Meanwhile, the PRC continues to expand its influence and activity 
in the Arctic. Last summer, Beijing again employed its Xue Long 2 ice-
hardened research vessel to conduct the country's 13th scientific 
expedition to the Arctic. During its voyage, the vessel deployed 
autonomous underwater vehicles, floating ice stations, and an acoustic 
monitoring buoy system in waters off Alaska and Canada to collect data 
that could inform future PLA Navy deployments to the region. 
Concurrently, the PRC and Russia conducted their second combined naval 
patrol to the Bering Sea in as many years. More than 10 vessels--
including cruise missile-capable surface combatants--participated in 
the patrol, which included anti-submarine exercises and other combat 
training near the Aleutian Islands.
Russia
    While the PRC's strategic capabilities are growing quickly, Russia 
remains the greatest military threat to the Homeland today. Despite the 
degradation of its ground forces resulting from two disastrous years of 
combat in Ukraine, Russia seeks to rapidly rearm and retains the 
world's largest arsenal of strategic and non-strategic nuclear weapons 
and a still formidable capability to threaten North America with 
precision-strike conventional weapons. Russia has gained extensive 
operational experience with its most advanced non-nuclear weapons in 
Ukraine, and has had the opportunity to refine tactics, techniques, and 
procedures that it could employ in a direct conflict with the United 
States or our NATO allies. Moreover, Russia's illegal and unprovoked 
full-scale invasion of Ukraine and irresponsible nuclear rhetoric have 
demonstrated to like-minded autocrats that nuclear coercion remains a 
tool of statecraft in the 21st Century.
    Russia's leaders regularly exercise strategic conflict with the 
West and are investing heavily to develop new weapons to ensure their 
ability to hold our Nation at perpetual risk. In the last year, Russia 
has expanded its force of ICBMs armed with the Avangard hypersonic 
glide vehicle, designed to evade missile defense radars and 
interceptors. It is also preparing to deploy the Sarmat heavy ICBM, 
which Vladimir Putin has claimed will feature a fractional orbital 
bombardment capability that could enable it to approach North America 
via a nonstandard trajectory over the South Pole. Russia also continues 
to develop and test novel experimental weapon systems, like the 
nuclear-armed Poseidon transoceanic weapon and the Burevestnik nuclear-
propelled cruise missile. Russia intends for these systems to challenge 
US defenses and guarantee Russia's ability to retaliate after a first 
strike.
    Meanwhile, Russia continues to hone a wide range of non-nuclear 
capabilities--including cyber weapons and conventionally armed air-, 
sea-, and ground-launched cruise missiles--to provide options below the 
nuclear threshold. Russia plans to use these non-nuclear capabilities 
to strike Western economic and military infrastructure in an attempt to 
degrade our political will and compel negotiations to terminate an 
escalating conflict. Russian public statements and military deployments 
near North America over the last several years make clear that, in the 
event of war with the United States, Moscow's targeting strategy for 
these weapons would include critical infrastructure in the Homeland.
    Despite the heavy commitment of its aviation forces in Ukraine, 
Russia has continued to fly regular out-of-area patrols with its heavy 
bombers and other military aircraft in multiple areas around the 
globe--including numerous flights into the North American air defense 
identification zone since February 2022. Meanwhile, the Russian Navy 
has increased its long-range operational deployments of cruise missile-
capable surface and subsurface vessels above pre-February 2022 levels. 
In January, Russia deployed a Gorshkov-class frigate to the western 
Atlantic, where the Russian Defense Ministry claimed the crew rehearsed 
``delivering a missile strike against an enemy surface target'' using 
its Tsirkon hypersonic missiles. In September, the Russian Pacific 
Fleet conducted its Finval-2023 exercise, which demonstrated Moscow's 
ability to control access to the Arctic through the Bering Strait and 
included live cruise missile launches by coastal defense units as well 
as surface and subsurface vessels operating within the U.S. Exclusive 
Economic Zone off Alaska.
    Finally, in late 2022, the Russian Pacific Fleet received its first 
Severodvinsk-class nuclear-powered guided missile submarine (SSGN), 
introducing a land-attack cruise missile threat to the U.S. West Coast 
similar to that faced by the East Coast since the first Severodvinsk 
entered service in the Russian Northern Fleet in 2014. Russian media 
indicates that Moscow now plans to field a total of 12 Severodvinsk 
hulls, split evenly between the Atlantic and Pacific, enabling the 
Russian Navy to pose a persistent conventional threat to critical 
infrastructure throughout most of North America. The threat will only 
become more acute later in the decade when Severodvinsk SSGNs are armed 
with the Tsirkon hypersonic missile.
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)
    Over the last 2 years, the DPRK has conducted nearly 100 ballistic 
missile tests, including 13 ICBM flight tests, as well as three space 
launch attempts using ICBM-class boosters. Its most recent space launch 
in November successfully placed a rudimentary intelligence satellite 
into orbit--capabilities that could advance quickly if Moscow were to 
offer space cooperation in exchange for North Korean arms deliveries 
for the war in Ukraine. Ballistic missiles that the DPRK has 
successfully tested since 2022 include a new and more capable liquid-
propellant ICBM as well as the country's first solid-propellant ICBM, 
which will further compound warning challenges due to its smaller 
logistical footprint.
    Both systems likely have sufficient boost to deliver a nuclear 
payload to the entire United States. The DPRK's closed society and 
robust security apparatus make it one of our most vexing intelligence 
challenges and prevent us from confidently assessing the number of 
ICBMs in its inventory. Nonetheless, I am concerned that Kim Jong Un's 
growing ICBM stockpile could approach our capacity to defend North 
America--a challenge that will only expand in the coming years if Kim 
Jong Un looks to add multiple reentry vehicles to his missiles and 
transition his ICBM program from research and development to serialized 
production and deployment.
Iran
    Iran's materiel support to Russia's war in Ukraine and political 
support to Hamas before and following its October 7th attack on Israel, 
along with Iranian support to Houthi forces challenging commercial 
shipping, underscore Tehran's entrenched hostility to the Western-led 
international order. Iran remains committed to retaliating for the 
January 2020 death of former IRGC Qods Force Commander Qassem 
Soleimani, potentially with attacks against current and former senior 
U.S. officials. Iran also poses a growing cyber threat to U.S. and 
allied networks and critical infrastructure. Last November, Iranian 
cyber actors targeted several U.S. water and wastewater facilities, 
likely in response to U.S. support for Israel. In the last 2 years, the 
FBI has disrupted two Iranian plots inside the United States to kill 
U.S. citizens of Iranian origin that have criticized the regime's 
autocracy and disregard for human rights. Finally, Iran continues to 
invest in its nuclear energy and space launch programs, which could 
provide a potential breakout option should Iran's leaders decide to 
pursue a homeland-threatening ICBM.
Violent Extremist Organizations
    The likelihood of a significant terrorist attack in the Homeland 
has almost certainly increased since the beginning of the Israel-Hamas 
conflict. Multiple terrorist groups--including ISIS and al Qaeda--have 
leveraged the crisis to generate propaganda designed to inspire 
followers to conduct attacks, including in North America. The 
increasingly diffuse nature of the transnational terrorist threat 
challenges our law enforcement partners' ability to detect and disrupt 
attack plotting against the Homeland and leaves us vulnerable to 
surprise. Commercial and general aviation likely persist as preferred 
targets due to the disproportionate economic and psychological impact 
such attacks would generate. I also continue to watch the Israel-Hamas 
conflict for signs that escalation is expanding beyond the region and 
remain concerned with the threat from Lebanese Hizballah--a group with 
international reach and a history of conducting attacks in the Western 
Hemisphere that continues long-term contingency planning in the 
Homeland.
Regional Security Threats
    Transnational criminal organizations in Mexico and elsewhere in the 
Western Hemisphere continue to foster instability and challenge the 
rule of law, creating potential opportunities for our State and non-
State adversaries to expand their access and influence along our 
southern approaches. Irregular migration through Mexico reached record 
levels in the last year, and drug-related violence has escalated as 
rival cartels fight for control of lucrative drug and human trafficking 
routes. Cartels have also demonstrated a growing willingness to 
directly engage Mexican military, security forces, and government 
officials, highlighting the need for continued theater security 
cooperation with our partners in Mexico.
Small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (sUAS)
    We continue to see a rapid proliferation of sUAS technology and 
usage in the Homeland, including near our military installations. While 
most of this activity can likely be attributed to hobbyists, sUAS could 
be exploited by nefarious actors for surveillance, illicit trafficking, 
or--in a worst case--attacks on domestic critical infrastructure. 
Unauthorized sUAS flights over Government installations and civilian 
infrastructure have the potential to disrupt critical services and 
threaten force protection and mission assurance. Given the growing 
prevalence of sUAS available for military, commercial, and recreational 
use, NORAD, USNORTHCOM, and our interagency partners face mounting 
challenges in early detection and threat characterization, owner and 
operator attribution, and--when necessary--mitigation and interdiction.
    By all indications, sUAS will present a safety and security risk to 
military installations and other critical infrastructure for the 
foreseeable future. Mitigating those risks requires a dedicated effort 
across all Federal Departments and agencies, State, local, tribal and 
territorial communities, and Congress to further develop the 
capabilities, coordination, and legal authorities necessary for 
detecting, tracking, and addressing potential sUAS threats in the 
homeland.
USNORTHCOM and NORAD PRIORITIES
    Against the backdrop of expanding and expansive threats, USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD remain dedicated to defending the U.S. and Canadian homelands 
today and well into the future. My key priority remains improved domain 
awareness in the approaches to North America and around the globe. The 
ability to detect, classify, and track potential threats to the 
homeland from the seafloor to space and in the cyber domain is a 
critical need for USNORTHCOM and NORAD--and for my fellow combatant 
commanders and international partners. Our core missions, to include 
defending critical defense infrastructure, require USNORTHCOM and NORAD 
to see and respond to threats through a globally integrated layered 
defense extending as far from our shores as possible. That capability 
is needed to ensure national leaders have as much time as possible to 
decide the best course of action for deterring, de-escalating, or 
defeating potential hostile acts.
    Investments in capabilities such as Over-the-Horizon Radar (OTHR) 
and the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS) will 
significantly enhance domain awareness in the air and maritime domains 
while limiting competitors' ability to approach North America 
undetected. Likewise, USNORTHCOM and NORAD's ability to track and 
defeat inbound DPRK long-range ballistic missiles will be significantly 
enhanced with the Long-Range Discrimination Radar (LRDR), currently 
planned for integration into the United States' ballistic missile 
defense architecture in the near future. I remain grateful to this 
Committee for your support of these important initiatives, and I urge 
continued emphasis on improving our Nation's ability to find and 
monitor potential aggressors well before they could target our 
Homeland.
    The rapid pace of change in the strategic environment, to include 
advancing kinetic and non-kinetic threats and the increasing 
exploitation of the information space, give reason to believe that 
successful defense of the homeland tomorrow requires new approaches, 
technologies, and perspectives. As competitors increasingly focus on 
holding the homeland at risk in an effort to influence U.S. and allied 
decisionmaking and limit our options for intervention in overseas 
crises, USNORTHCOM and NORAD are taking active measures today to ensure 
the ability of the commands to defend the Homelands in the future.
    The United States retains the world's most powerful military and a 
global network of immensely capable allies and partners. However, 
information flow between organizations and commands remains stifled by 
technological and institutional barriers, which too often results in 
delayed delivery and processing of critical information. Improving 
global domain awareness is absolutely necessary, but the Department 
must also expedite the processing and sharing of information between 
combatant commands, allies, partners, and the interagency community. 
The Department's prioritization of the Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control concept highlights the increasing importance of quickly sharing 
information between sensors, decisionmakers, and effectors. For 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD, the ability to detect potential threats, make 
well-informed recommendations to leaders, and take appropriate 
defensive measures is vital, and I will work closely with the 
Department and the Services to develop this critical capability.
    Our Nation must also continue to invest wisely in the military and 
civilian personnel responsible for planning and executing every one of 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD's no-fail missions. The demands of defending the 
Homeland are significant and require an experienced and innovative 
professional workforce from a broad range of experiences and 
backgrounds. Our commands continue to prioritize recruiting and 
retaining exceptional talent from a broad and deep talent pool. Just as 
our Nation makes substantial investments in cutting-edge technology to 
outpace our competitors, we must also invest in the dedicated 
servicemembers and public servants who stand watch over our Nation.
                      homeland defense design next
    In recognition of the multi-domain threats to North America, 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD have prioritized operationalizing the commands and 
institutionalizing active campaigning in the Homeland. Homeland defense 
begins well beyond our shores and relies on a layered, integrated 
defense conducted in full cooperation with our fellow combatant 
commands and our allies and partners. Rather than simply reacting to 
the actions of our competitors, USNORTHCOM and NORAD are taking active 
measures to assess the emerging threats and associated requirements of 
the near future in to ensure our ability to defend critical assets and 
safeguard the Nation's ability to project forces forward.
    The actions and ambitions of our competitors require the United 
States and Canada to demonstrate the capability to fight in and from 
North America, and the commands' Homeland defense design will ensure 
our ability to defend the Homeland in the coming decades. USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD's focus on campaigning and operationalizing the commands 
reflects competitors' growing capability and capacity to hold targets 
throughout North America at risk and to force United States and 
Canadian leaders to defend the continent while projecting forces 
overseas.
    It is a near certainty that homeland defense in the coming years 
will rely less on point defense and traditional kinetic defeat 
mechanisms in favor of area defense and left-of-launch effects that 
take full advantage of multi-domain capabilities. While the future of 
Homeland defense may look vastly different than the current 
architecture, it will continue to depend on the pillars USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD use today--all-domain awareness; information dominance; decision 
superiority; and global integration. I look forward to working with the 
Department and Congress on these pillars.
    The necessity of campaigning in and from North America has been 
made clear in recent years as competitors have repeatedly demonstrated 
the capability, capacity, and intent to hold the Homeland at risk. 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD will continue to advance the commands' ability to 
conduct globally integrated joint operations in defense of the 
homeland. The commands will also benefit from the recent transition 
from the legacy USNORTHCOM and NORAD Command and Control Center (N2C2) 
to a Joint Operations Center (JOC) that mirrors the capabilities of 
fellow geographic combatant commands and allows for real-time, all-
domain communications and coordination with the commands' DOD and 
interagency partners.
    Finally, the success of homeland and continental defense requires 
capability and capacity to conduct sustained multi-domain operations in 
the Arctic. The challenges associated with communicating, operating, 
and surviving in the Arctic are well documented, and investment by the 
U.S. Government, the Department, and the military Services reflect the 
need to compete in the region now and well into the future. I am 
encouraged by national-level commitments to improving the Port of Nome 
and building the U.S. Coast Guard's icebreaker fleet; both efforts are 
visible signs of the U.S. commitment in the region that will support 
the economic and national security interests of the United States. The 
DOD and Services have readily acknowledged the importance of operating 
in far north in their respective Arctic strategies, and further 
emphasis and investment is necessary to field the Arctic-capable 
platforms, properly trained and equipped forces, and infrastructure 
necessary to succeed in a region of enormous strategic consequence. 
USNORTHCOM's Special Operations Command-North (SOCNORTH), has 
demonstrated both the value and challenges associated with Arctic 
operations through Combined and Joint Operations, activities, and 
investments in the High North. Most recently, SOCNORTH executed 
Exercise ARCTIC EDGE 24, readily integrating over 600 USSOF, Partner 
Nation SOF, and LEAs across the entire North American Arctic.
                          security cooperation
    Global alliances and partnerships based on mutual trust and 
interoperability provide the United States and our allies with a 
distinct advantage over our competitors. Our competitors continue their 
relentless efforts to increase presence, economic leverage, and 
influence in our region, proving the necessity of security cooperation 
with USNORTHCOM's exemplary military partners time and again. 
USNORTHCOM's relationships with military partners in Mexico, Canada, 
and The Bahamas boost our ability to operate, communicate, and share 
information for common benefit and are integral to Homeland defense.
    The reputation of the United States and the Department of Defense 
as steadfast and reliable partners is critical to each of those 
relationships, and USNORTHCOM security cooperation efforts continue to 
generate significant benefits for regional security and burden sharing 
with our neighbors. As instability and conflict arise overseas, it is 
essential to safeguard the security cooperation investments that have 
an outsized role in defending our homelands and vital interests, 
including through continued attention to the thriving strategic, 
economic, social, and defense partnerships close to home.
Mexico
    It is already apparent the military-to-military relationship 
between the United States and Mexico is robust and expanding as both 
nations address the challenges posed by common threats to our citizens 
and shared interests. The bonds between USNORTHCOM and our Mexican 
military partners are broad, resilient, and focused on expanding our 
combined capability to defend and secure North America from myriad 
State and non-State threats. Countering competitor influence in the 
region remains a key priority for USNORTHCOM and our Mexican military 
partners, and as a direct result, the United States and Mexican 
militaries are more operationally compatible than at any point in our 
shared history.
    This burgeoning bilateral defense relationship is a result of 
focused, direct, strategic-level defense engagement and confidence 
building measures, to include routine senior-leader dialogs such as the 
North American Defense Ministers conference, combined training like we 
have witnessed at the U.S. Army Joint Readiness Training Center, 
exercises such as Exercise Aztec Alligator, and longstanding efforts to 
promote shared strategic interests.
    Assisting our partners in meeting shared security challenges will 
require modernizing Foreign Military Sales and Direct Commercial Sales 
(FMS/DCS) by improving institutional responsiveness to partner requests 
and demonstrating greater agility in fulfilling those requests. The 
demonstration of timeliness and strategic responsiveness serves to 
reinforce lines of effort in my campaigning while simultaneously 
presenting opportunity to outcompete revisionist and revanchist powers 
present throughout the region.
    The growing strength of this vital defense relationship has been 
made evident through our collaborative approach to common defense 
challenges, and I am extremely proud of USNORTHCOM's bilateral defense 
partnership with our Mexican military partners. Those efforts and 
investments have simultaneously strengthened our common security while 
helping to reduce Mexico's reliance on Russian and PRC equipment and 
contracts that often come with costly strings attached.
Canada
    As has been made clear by the unique NORAD relationship, Canada has 
been a steadfast ally for decades and remains our essential security 
partner in the defense of North America. Canadian investments in domain 
awareness capabilities, advanced air and maritime platforms, and the 
Canadian Armed Forces' routine participation in multinational efforts 
such as Operation Noble Eagle and Exercise ARCTIC EDGE provide an 
unmatched continental defense architecture. This unique and steadfast 
partnership, based on common ideals and interests, continues to gain 
strength and will serve both the United States and Canada for 
generations to come. Canadian commitment to robust support to NORAD and 
meeting shared security challenges with the United States and our 
allies, along with investments in a robust continental defense is key 
to the success of the bi-national alliance that has successfully 
deterred aggression against the United States and Canadian Homelands 
for over 65 years.
The Bahamas
    The Bahamas is a growing and willing partner in maritime security 
and associated intelligence and information sharing, and USNORTHCOM's 
programs with The Bahamas improve disaster response and climate 
resiliency for both nations. The USNORTHCOM bilateral frameworks with 
the Royal Bahamian Defence Force (RBDF), and with other United States 
partners such as the United States Coast Guard and the Rhode Island 
National Guard are important to advancing mutual defense and security 
objectives. USNORTHCOM will continue to work closely with the RBDF to 
enhance shared maritime domain awareness and cooperation, and I look 
forward to building further on an already strong and beneficial 
relationship.
              defense support of civil authorities (dsca)
    USNORTHCOM's support of lead Federal agencies in the aftermath of a 
natural or human-caused disaster remains a core mission that directly 
bolsters our Homeland defense enterprise while delivering rapid relief 
to American citizens in times of great need. USNORTHCOM works year-
round with our interagency partners to ensure plans, communications, 
and interagency relationships are always ready to deliver the right 
military-unique capabilities at the right time and place. Whether 
providing military personnel to supplement Department of Homeland 
Security and Customs and Border Protection's mission along our 
southwest border, assisting U.S. Federal law enforcement agencies 
efforts to illuminate illicit trafficking networks, or speeding 
military-unique capabilities to support Federal Emergency Management 
Agency-led disaster relief, USNORTHCOM is always ready to support our 
lead Federal agencies. I look forward to establishing and maintaining 
partnerships with the National Guard Bureau, State, local, tribal, and 
territorial partners in support of vital DSCA roles.
    In addition to delivering life-saving capabilities and resolute 
support to our fellow Americans and interagency partners in times of 
crisis, USNORTHCOM's DSCA mission also routinely demonstrates a degree 
of resilience and well-exercised cooperation that should cast serious 
doubt in the minds of potential aggressors who may be considering 
kinetic or non-kinetic attacks against U.S. critical infrastructure. 
Over many years and multiple significant events, USNORTHCOM and our 
Federal, State, local, tribal, and territorial partners have proven the 
ability of communities and agencies across the United States to recover 
quickly from major disasters. The same lessons learned in those diverse 
scenarios would apply following an attack against the United States, 
and competitors must know that an attack would be certain to fail and 
result in only limited disruption.
    As multi-domain threats to critical defense, transportation, and 
commercial networks and facilities continue to mount, the United States 
and Canada will face a growing need for resilient, defensible 
infrastructure. Following the release of the Department's policy 
guidance regarding defense of critical infrastructure, USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD have worked with a host of intergovernmental and industry 
partners to capture the capabilities and relationships necessary to 
safeguard national infrastructure from attack. This vital effort will 
continue to present a significant challenge that requires a whole-of-
government approach and strong cooperation with Congress and the 
interagency community to ensure our national ability to deter, defend, 
and, if necessary, recover quickly from attacks against key 
infrastructure.
                               conclusion
    USNORTHCOM and NORAD's activities, operations, and investments 
directly reflect the reality of the strategic environment and the 
threats and challenges that will continue to face our homeland into the 
foreseeable future. Based on my ongoing initial assessment of the 
commands and the challenges we must face, I am confident in our 
Commands' ability to defend North America, but I am extremely mindful 
of the mounting threats and challenges presented by determined and 
well-resourced competitors.
    It is a profound honor to lead the extraordinary United States and 
Canadian soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, coast 
guardsmen, and civilians of USNORTHCOM and NORAD in defense of our 
great Nations. Those dedicated men and women continue to work 
tirelessly to defend our Constitution, our citizens, and our shared 
values. In return, our warriors rely on the resources and support 
necessary to succeed in their no-fail missions. There should be no 
doubt that the United States military is the strongest, most capable 
professional force in history, and that our men and women stand ready 
today to vigorously defend our Nation against any threat. Thank you for 
your support and for the opportunity to serve alongside them. I look 
forward to your questions.

    Senator King. Thank you.

STATEMENT OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL SEAN A. GAINEY, USA, COMMANDING 
 GENERAL, UNITED STATES ARMY SPACE AND MISSILE DEFENSE COMMAND

    Lieutenant General Gainey. Chairman King, Ranking Member 
Fischer, and distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, I am 
honored to testify before you as the Commander of the U.S. Army 
Space and Missile Defense Command and Joint Force Functional 
Component Command for Integrated Missile Defense, JFFC IMD. In 
these roles I am representing an incredible organization of 
2,300 soldiers and civilians, spanning 13 time zones and 19 
locations worldwide. This one team of professionals tirelessly 
provides base, high-altitude, and missile defense forces and 
advanced to Army and joint warfighters. I am honored to 
represent them, and I thank you for your unwavering support for 
this team and their families.
    I also serve as the Senior Commander for both Fort Greely, 
Alaska, and U.S. Army Garrison-Kwajalein Atoll, two 
strategically important remote sites that are experiencing 
challenges with facilities that must be continued to be 
addressed as we move forward with more priority.
    Additionally, I also serve as the Army's lead enterprise 
integrator for air and missile defense, while my role as JFCC 
IMD provides operational-level missile defense and expertise 
and integrates transregional missile defense functions across 
the joint and combined warfighting force.
    As the Army's air and missile defense enterprise 
integrator, I will continue to use this role to highlight that 
the Army's air and missile defense remains the Army's most 
heavily deployed force with the highest demand signal amongst 
the combatant commands every year. This high optempo continues 
to provide a significant strain on our formations and families 
as we must continue to address their needs.
    As you know, the urgency for multidomain transregional 
combat effects continues to increase exponentially. Our 
adversaries' air and missile-related threats have rapidly 
expanded in recent year in quantity, variety, and complexity. 
We see this today in Ukraine and looming on the horizon in the 
Pacific. It has never been more imperative that we and our 
allies and partners enhance our missile defense and space 
capabilities to impose costs on our adversaries, denying them 
the benefit of using these weapons and ensuring the safeguard 
of our Nation.
    As our adversaries increase their emphasis on space and 
missile capabilities, our U.S. Army must innovate and evolve. 
Understanding the challenges in today's threat environment, the 
Army released our Space Vision, supporting multidomain 
operations, specifying the Army's role in integrating space 
capabilities and to join and coalition operations while also 
interdicting the space capabilities of our adversaries.
    Therefore, we seize opportunities to integrate and exercise 
with other commands and coalition partners, remain fixed 
together working in dominance in science and technology 
development, and persisting in gathering soldier proficiency 
and groundbreaking technology.
    It is also increasingly apparent that integrating our space 
operations and missile defense operations is critical to our 
national security. Our integration is essential to effectively 
contributing to the strategic deterrence and responding in 
crisis. Today we must integrate space and missile defense at 
every onset of prototyping, concept development, and 
application, as we do this all in concert with Army, joint, and 
coalition partners, one voice together around the globe.
    Our allies and partners are critical for layered and tiered 
options to degrade, disrupt, and defeat adversaries, share 
burden, integrate technology, and protect our mutual homelands. 
But all of these operational considerations pale in comparison 
to the will, determination, and trust of the amazing men and 
women that operate and sustain these advanced systems. We ask a 
lot of our Army AMD and space formations, and the demand will 
only increase in the future.
    Our planned force structure growth and modernization is 
critical in the coming years. Thank you for your efforts in 
supporting them with timely budgets, caring for them and their 
families, and building trust with the American people, now and 
in the coming years. Caring for our soldiers and their families 
is paramount to win in any environment and globe. Thank you for 
supporting an incredible mission-ready team.
    I look forward to addressing your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Lieutenant General Sean A. 
Gainey follows:]

        Prepared Statement by Lieutenant General Sean A. Gainey
                              introduction
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for your continued support for our 
soldiers, civilians, and families and your continued support for the 
Army, U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM), Department of Defense (DoD), and 
the space and missile defense community. Thank you also for inviting me 
to highlight the importance of space and missile defense capabilities 
and ongoing enhancements that enable the defense of our Nation, forward 
stationed and deployed forces, allies, and partners.
    Since January of this year, I have had the privilege of commanding 
U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command (USASMDC) and Joint 
Functional Component Command--Integrated Missile Defense (JFCC IMD) and 
acting as the Senior Commander (SC) for both Fort Greely, Alaska, 
(FGAK) and U.S. Army Garrison-Kwajalein Atoll (USAG-KA). I also serve 
as our Army's lead enterprise integrator for air and missile defense 
(IAMD).
    It is no secret that our competitors are growing in capability and 
capacity, particularly in the areas of nuclear, space and missile 
systems, and in the forefront, ballistic missile threats will continue 
to increase in complexity. Competitors' ballistic missiles are more 
mobile, survivable, reliable, and accurate with longer ranges; and 
hypersonic glide vehicles delivered by ballistic missiles are a 
developing threat that will inevitably challenge current missile 
defense systems. They are fielding more advanced missiles in greater 
numbers to not only deter the United States from intervening in a 
regional conflict but also to target the U.S. Homeland. The National 
Defense Strategy (NDS), Nuclear Posture Review (NPR), and Missile 
Defense Review (MDR) recognized these dynamic changes in the security 
environment and the imperative to strengthen our integrated deterrence 
using all our strategic capabilities.
    Missile prelaunch survivability is also likely to increase as 
adversaries strengthen their denial and deception measures and 
increasingly base missiles on mobile platforms. Furthermore, increasing 
technical and operational countermeasures continue to challenge 
defensive systems against ballistic missiles.
    The cruise missile threat to U.S. forces is also increasing. While 
most current land-attack cruise missiles (LACMs) remain subsonic, 
supersonic and hypersonic missiles have already been deployed, and 
LACMs will also have increased survivability by minimizing radar 
signatures and/or using countermeasures.
    Europe--and frankly the globe--faces a Russian Federation with 
about 1,400 deployed nuclear warheads on intercontinental ballistic 
missiles (ICBMs) and submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs). 
Despite arms control limitations and resource constraints, development 
of new ICBMs and SLBMs remains a high Russian priority, and they are 
expected to retain the largest force of strategic ballistic missiles 
outside of the United States.
    In the Indo-Pacific, the People's Republic of China (PRC) has the 
most active and diverse ballistic missile development program, 
producing technologically advanced systems, selling ballistic missile 
technology, and expanding the reach of its ballistic missiles to deter 
foreign powers in future conflict.
    Similarly, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) is also 
developing long-range ballistic missiles that can threaten the United 
States and its allies. They continue testing new ICBMs, intermediate-
range ballistic missiles, solid-propellant short-range ballistic 
missiles, an SLBM, and a medium-range ballistic missile while 
maintaining a large short-range ballistic missile (SRBM) inventory.
    In the Middle East, Iran has ballistic missile and space launch 
development programs, which will result in increased ballistic missile 
force lethality. Iran's ballistic missile force exercises extensively 
hone wartime operational skills and tactics, and their space program 
progress could accelerate their path to achieving ICBM capabilities 
given the inherently similar technologies.
    Our competitors increasingly leverage their space capabilities and 
complex missile systems, including unmanned systems, to legitimize 
their domestic and international agendas. With lower barriers to entry 
than ever, we can see a future that promulgates directed energy, 
autonomous systems, machine learning, and a further increase in 
distributed operations. Indeed, as demonstrated in the current 
conflicts and at the forefront of the next war, missiles will certainly 
be employed for increasingly tactical objectives--the missile threat is 
growing, and we must continue to build a resilient force and adapt to 
deter and defeat it.
    As the commander of USASMDC and JFCC IMD, I am advocating for smart 
investment in the mission areas of space and IAMD, while also 
developing other ways--like missile defeat--to deter our competitors. 
Not only must we deny them the benefit of their potential strikes 
through resilience and countermeasures as the NDS directs, but we must 
also credibly communicate our capabilities and capacity to instill 
doubt in crisis and complicate the adversary decision calculus.
    At USASMDC, our mission is to develop and provide current and 
future global space, missile defense, and high-altitude capabilities to 
the Army, the joint force, and our allies and partners. We must enable 
multi-domain combat effects and enhance deterrence, assurance, and 
detection of strategic attacks to protect the Nation. USASMDC is the 
U.S. Army's Service component command (ASCC) for three combatant 
commands (CCMDs): U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM), U.S. Northern 
Command (USNORTHCOM) for ground-based midcourse defense (GMD), and U.S. 
Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM). At USASMDC, our vision is that of ``ONE 
TEAM,'' achieving our shared objectives via collaboration, feedback, 
assessment, and smart adaptation to continue demonstrating value to 
warfighters, our Army, our joint interservice and interagency 
teammates, our Nation, and our allies and partners.
    Of course, we cannot do this alone. We integrate our efforts across 
the globe with organizations like the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), 
U.S. Space Force (USSF), Army Futures Command, Army Rapid Capabilities 
and Critical Technologies Office (RCCTO), and Program Executive Offices 
(PEOs), spanning a myriad of space, missile defense, and high-altitude 
requirements of the operational environment.
                          recent developments
    The President's 2023 Unified Command Plan (UCP) seamlessly 
transferred the responsibility for missile defense, including JFCC IMD, 
from USSTRATCOM to USSPACECOM in April of last year.
    In October of last year, the Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) assigned 
the 100th Missile Defense Brigade (MDB) to USNORTHCOM. As a result, 
USASMDC became ASCC to USNORTHCOM for the GMD mission.
    The Army Space Vision Supporting Multidomain Operations was signed 
last December by the Secretary of the Army, the Chief of Staff of the 
Army, and the Sergeant Major of the Army. It specifies the Army's role 
of integrating joint and coalition space capabilities into our 
operations while simultaneously interdicting adversary space 
capabilities.
    Throughout third and fourth quarters of fiscal year 2023, USASMDC 
ensured successful transfer of the Theater Missile Warning mission to 
USSF's Space Operations Command (SPoC) Missile Warning--Delta 4. 
Official mission transfer occurred on October 1, 2023, with USASMDC 
providing residual support and manning to the Joint Tactical Ground 
Station (JTAGS) sites through April of this year. The realignment of 
theater missile warning to our sister service enabled USASMDC to take 
on new mission sets focused on providing close space support to the 
tactical warfighter while still meeting our joint and coalition 
responsibilities. Four Army companies will officially case their colors 
on April 15, 2024, after nearly a quarter century of providing 
dedicated theater support to the joint and coalition forces worldwide.
    One of the first opportunities occurred to integrate Army space-
cyber-special operation forces (SOF) capabilities in May 2023. This 
took place during Army SOF National Training Center Rotation, and 
during this rotation, the fusion of Army space elements with SOF units 
in support of their missions in an operational environment was 
completed successfully. USASMDC supported SOF elements through the 
production of space-enabled effects and products, and these elements 
were also invaluable in the joint operations center (JOC) targeting 
process.
    As of September 2023, the USASMDC Force Tracking Mission Management 
Center (FT MMC) began executing its joint force tracking (FT) mission 
on behalf of USSPACECOM, which provides continuous FT data services to 
combatant commanders, U.S. Government agencies, and designated 
coalition partners in support of command and control, situational 
awareness, and fratricide reduction. The FT MMC receives data from over 
70 different tracking device manufacturers, converts that data into a 
common message format, and disseminates a tailored data feed out to 
authorized end users across the Department of Defense and U.S. 
Government. This allows end users to concentrate on their mission sets 
while the FT MMC concentrates on force tracking data at an enterprise 
level. The FT MMC currently processes friendly force tracking (FFT), 
tagging, tracking and locating (TTL), and personnel recovery (PR) data 
with over 300,000 devices under management, generating approximately 21 
million messages per day.
    Pacific Sentry/Space Sentry 23 (PS/SS23), was a tier I exercise 
where USASMDC provided support to USINDOPACOM and USSPACECOM. USASMDC 
used PS/SS23 to integrate space control planning teams with USSPACECOM 
forward elements to provide joint non-kinetic targeting data. USASMDC 
also integrated with the Australian Defense Force space component 
throughout the exercise. The exercise demonstrated that the methods 
used to disseminate intelligence over secure means did not adequately 
replicate standard intelligence dissemination and that USASMDC will 
work with the Department of the Army to define the requirement, 
mitigate risk, and satisfactorily resource USSPACECOM's intelligence 
requirements.
    Keen Edge 24 (KE24), was a USINDOPACOM lead exercise, with support 
from USSPACECOM and capability and planners from USASMDC. Furthermore, 
this exercise also supported the coordination of two coalition 
partners. One of the lessons learned from this exercise was that the 
number of target aim points (NLRPs) were limited for the exercise, 
which resulted in the underutilization of space capabilities due to the 
lack of NLRPs.
    In the near term, USASMDC supports several other events. The 
USASMDC Center of Excellence, Technical Center, and 1st Space Brigade 
participated in the Project Convergences Capstone 4 (PCC4) experiment 
to further explore future space capabilities such as the Theater Strike 
Effects Group (TSEG). USASMDC will also provide forces and full staff 
participation in Austere Challenge/Global Lightning/Vigilant Shield 24 
(AC/GL/VS24). AC/GL/VS24 is USEUCOM's focused Tier I exercise. 
USSTRATCOM and USNORTHCOM integrated into USEUCOM's battle rhythm, and 
USSPACECOM will provide a response cell. USASMDC will also conduct 
external evaluations for the 1st Space Brigade and 100th GMD Brigade 
during this event, this will be the first tier I that USASMDC formally 
supports USNORTHCOM as an ASCC. The USEUCOM AOR is the backdrop for the 
exercise with limited impact to the Homeland to support USNORTHCOM 
objectives. Finally, USASMDC continues direct integration with United 
Kingdom Space Command to provide space augmentation to USASMDC mission 
requirements and possibly provide liaison support in the United 
Kingdom.
                            space operations
    As space, cyber, and SOF continue to work together, 1st Space 
Brigade capitalized on engagements with U.S. Army Special Operations 
Command (USASOC) to experiment with new tactical space control 
technology. Over the past 18 months, the brigade task organized to 
support a shift toward more expeditionary systems to operate in the 
corps' extended deep areas of conflict. Recalibrated formations such as 
the Army space control planning team and tactical experimentation team 
led these initiatives. The Army space enterprise is considering all 
options, including integration of existing commercial and government 
off-the-shelf technologies to demonstrate concepts that fulfill the 
current demand for a ruggedized, tactical space control system. These 
new, small form factor systems fit in just a few man-portable cases and 
employ a team of five Army space professionals. Space Soldiers utilized 
these systems to provide real-time space effects in a variety of 
experimentation exercises to include Project Convergence 22, Command 
Overland, USASOC capabilities exercise, two multi-lateral airborne 
trainings, and multiple Sage Eagles.
    In these venues, Army space operator crews provided on-the-move 
support to SOF entities by leveraging smaller, more maneuverable 
technology at the ODA level. The 1st Space Brigade's Soldiers 
integrated capabilities and space operations into scenarios to 
demonstrate how space, cyber, and SOF can work together to support 
multi-domain and full-spectrum operations, providing SOF and the joint 
force with an enhanced ability to see, sense, stimulate, strike, and 
assess across the spectrum. SOF partners enable Space Soldiers to gain 
the necessary placement and access to operate tactical Army space 
control systems in support of operations within denied, degraded, and 
disrupted austere operating environments.
    To enable and achieve the Army Space Vision, USASMDC is 
investigating the establishment of an Army Space Operations Branch to 
deliver specialized, highly trained, and certified soldiers with the 
experience and expertise to provide relevant and timely effects on the 
battlefield in support of maneuver commanders.
    In parallel, USASMDC is championing the Army Space Training 
Strategy. This strategy provides a framework to educate and train the 
force, not otherwise trained in space operations, to integrate space 
knowledge, skills, and tasks into professional military education, 
maneuver training centers, and home station training with the requisite 
training devices while simultaneously taking an Army enterprise 
approach to prepare the force to fight, and win, in a contested multi-
domain environment.
    While technological advances can and will disrupt adversary 
position, navigation, and timing (PNT) and communications capabilities, 
we must also employ technological advances to interdict adversary 
space-based capabilities that provide surveillance and reconnaissance. 
By collaborating with joint partners, we can further integrate space 
and high-altitude capabilities to the tactical edge while our science 
and technology (S&T) efforts continue underway to ensure dominance in 
space control, deep sensing, and increasing the survivability and 
capability of our sensing systems.
    Integrating space operations into missile defense operations, and 
vice versa, is of utmost importance to our national security. 
Increasingly, space and missile defense enterprises depend on and 
enhance each other. Given recent trends, it has become apparent we 
cannot effectively contribute to strategic deterrence or respond in 
crisis if we approach the multi-domain environment with differing 
business sectors or phases of an operation. Yesterday's military relied 
on space for warning and targeting, and yesterday's military relied on 
missile defense to protect the force. Today, space and missile defense 
integration must be at the very start of our prototyping, concept 
development, and application--across and in concert with our Army, 
joint, and coalition partners. This integrated approach is both cost 
effective and mission effective.
                                  iamd
    S&T investments in high-energy lasers (HEL) executed by USASMDC led 
to the fielding of the Palletized High Energy Laser (P-HEL) and the 
Directed Energy Maneuver Short Range Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD) systems 
by the RCCTO. We must continue S&T efforts to increase lethality; 
reduce size, weight, power, and costs; increase magazine depth; and 
increase the range-to-effect of high-energy laser weapon systems. 
USASMDC also continues collaborating with the RCCTO to ensure delivery 
of HEL systems that are reliable and affordable.
    USASMDC will also continue to provide hypersonic test support to 
the RCCTO and Navy Conventional Prompt Strike Program Offices and 
develop hypersonic targets for testing of new and existing IAMD 
capabilities. USASMDC is prepared to support MDA development of the 
Guam Defense System (GDS) by providing military operator doctrine, 
organization, training, materiel, leadership and education, personnel, 
facilities, and policy (DOTMLPF-P) analysis and operator requirements 
support to MDA's acquisition process, development, and fielding.
    Additionally, the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) provided software 
and hardware (HW) deployment of version CX4.0 across the fleet of 
Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) forward-based mode radars 
(AN/TPY-2), providing enhancements to initial hypersonic defense 
tracking, dynamic discrimination architecture, cybersecurity, 
electronic protection, objective debris mitigation, and spurious track 
mitigation.
    MDA also completed MILCON activities for the construction of 
Missile Field 4 at FGAK and is currently installing and testing launch 
support equipment in each of the silo interface vaults. These 
activities will continue through the end of calendar year 2024. 
Furthermore, the additional 20 silos in MF4 will create flexibility for 
ground system operations and sustainment and will support the 
subsequent fielding of 20 Next Generation Interceptors in the future.
    MF4 enhances interceptor capacity to defend the homeland against 
long-range ballistic missile attack. The expansion of MF4 increases the 
footprint of the Missile Defense Complex (MDC) on FGAK, and this 
increased footprint, along with additional assets, will require 
increasing physical security assets including personnel and devices. 
Security personnel requirements have been historically achieved through 
RFF or mobilized National Guard units from the lower 48 states, and 
security devices such as cameras, badging, and detection systems will 
also need to increase based on the expansion.
    And finally, USASMDC also continues to ensure site security at 
FGAK, fielding additional C-sUAS systems in defense of the MDC. Several 
systems are now employed, and we continue to ensure that we have the 
most streamlined legal authorities and reporting practices to showcase 
these capabilities. Moreover, the 49th Missile Defense Battalion, 100th 
Missile Defense Brigade, and USASMDC continue to coordinate to provide 
updated, state-of-the-art technology in the continuous effort to defend 
the MDC against C-sUAS threats.
                            senior commander
    The mission of the senior commander is to ``care for soldiers, 
families, and Department of the Army Civilians, and to enable unit 
readiness.'' Therefore, the senior commander will routinely resolve 
installation issues with Army Material Command (AMC) and, as needed, 
the associated ASCC or Direct Reporting Unit. The senior commander also 
uses the garrison command as the primary organization to provide 
services and resources to customers in support of accomplishing this 
mission. All applicable commands support the senior commander in the 
execution of senior commander responsibilities; therefore, the senior 
commander is the commander supported by Army Materiel Command's 
Garrison Command and affiliated Installation Management Command (IMCOM) 
director, other installation service providers, and tenants.
    I routinely work with the IMCOM director in the Pacific region, 
regarding concerns and investments at FGAK and USAG-KA. The Fort Greely 
Community Activity Center has been modernized and has new services that 
include a new coffee cafe and bar area, greatly improving the 
community's food and drink options and providing a safe and relaxing 
environment. Moreover, ground will be broken this year to add an indoor 
playground expansion to the activity center by late 2025. Additionally, 
the garrison continues to support 24-hour operations and intends to 
improve its aging infrastructure with efforts underway to de-centralize 
heating in all the buildings and become more energy resilient and less 
dependent on utility providers in the future. This is to combat 
projected increased energy costs across Alaska over the next 10 years.
    FGAK's and USAG-KA's locations are crucial to our national 
security. Fort Greely is ideally situated in Alaska to address security 
challenges in Northeast Asia. Kwajalein is home to a U.S. Army garrison 
and the Ronald Reagan Ballistic Missile Defense Test Site, which is a 
vital site in the Pacific Islands region--a strategically crucial part 
of the broader Indo-Pacific.
    The Compacts of Free Association between the United States and the 
Republic of the Marshall Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia, 
and Palau facilitate our strategic partnership with each of these 
nations. Under these agreements, the United States has the rights of 
strategic denial and assured access. In return, we serve as the defense 
force for these countries. Kwajalein's Reagan Test Site protects key 
space assets, contributes to space domain awareness for USSPACECOM, and 
enables mission essential, missile operational and developmental test 
capability for USSTRATCOM. However, this unique place and its one-of-a-
kind capabilities require significant investment now and in the future. 
In January of this year, for example, one of the U.S. Army Garrison's 
islands, Roi-Namur, was inundated by a series of rogue waves. Half of 
Roi-Namur, home to most of the Reagan Test Site's radars, was flooded, 
causing millions of dollars in damages to an already weakened 
infrastructure and leaving its radars inoperable for weeks.
    Kwajalein's unique position brings joint value, and joint value 
requires joint investment. Therefore, USASMDC is committed to leading 
this effort for the Joint Force. We are actively evaluating command 
relationships and resourcing processes for efficiencies to revitalize 
this important multi-domain operations mission in the Pacific for the 
decades ahead.
    However, even as I highlight the challenging decades ahead and 
USASMDC makes incredible strides in these essential, no-fail missions, 
I want to reiterate that our most important assets are the thousands of 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, civilians, and 
contractors who deploy and employ our IAMD system--and the families 
that sacrifice to make their efforts possible. Our ``ONE TEAM,'' family 
mindset at USADMDC has been foundational to our success and empowers 
mission accomplishment.
    I appreciate the opportunity to address missile defense matters and 
look forward to addressing your questions.

    Senator King. Thank you.

    STATEMENT OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL HEATH A. COLLINS, USAF, 
                DIRECTOR, MISSILE DEFENSE AGENCY

    Lieutenant General Collins. Thank you, Chairman King, 
Ranking Member Fischer, distinguished members of the 
subcommittee. I am honored for the opportunity today to join my 
colleagues on this panel and discuss the missile defense 
mission, and I appreciate your continued strong support of the 
missile defense mission over the years.
    To start I would like to thank the men and women behind the 
development, delivery, and sustainment of the missile defense 
system that I represent today, our MDA [Missile Defense Agency] 
family, and the operators of the system all are key partners in 
this no-fail mission.
    We are requesting $10.4 billion to develop and deploy 
Homeland missile defenses and improve regional defenses against 
increasingly diverse and dangerous missile threats, a reality 
we all witnessed when Iranian and Houthi forces launched over 
100 ballistic missiles in addition to cruise missiles and 
unmanned aerial vehicles against Israel last month.
    Our prioritization of decisions will maximize missile 
defense system capability, capacity, and readiness. We continue 
to work closely with the combatant commanders and services to 
help prepare them for the fight of today and tomorrow. To 
defend our Homeland from ballistic missile attack, the ground-
based mid-course defense system, or GMD, remains our Nation's 
sole protection from limited attacks with the primary focus 
being the advancing North Korean threat. The ongoing Ground-
Based Interceptor, or GBI, service life extension program will 
continue to improve GBI reliability and availability and will 
help mitigate risk until the next-generation Interceptor, or 
NGI, is fielded by the end of 2028.
    After 20 years, GMD stands ready, as shown in December 
2023, when we successfully executed a GMD intercept flight test 
using the two 3-stage selectable Ground-Based Interceptor in 2-
stage mode, demonstrating increased engagement battle space. We 
plan to deploy this capability to the entire fleet by the end 
of this year.
    The NGI program remains on track, and as this subcommittee 
is aware, we recently selected Lockheed Martin to continue as 
the prime for NGI development, testing, production, and 
fielding.
    Soon we plan to add the Long-Range Discrimination Radar 
(LRDR) to MDA's operational capability baseline, to enhance 
tracking, discrimination, and hit assessment against long-range 
missile threats. Today, LRDR is ready to support the space 
domain awareness mission.
    For regional defense, MDA continues to design improvements 
to the Aegis ballistic missile defense capability and procure 
the standard Missile 3 Block IIA missiles. We were very pleased 
with the performance of the Aegis weapon system and the system 
operators on board the USS Arleigh Burke and the USS Carney, 
and the role they played in intercepting the ballistic missiles 
fired against Israel last month.
    In fiscal year 2025, we will also test and deliver SPY-1 
radar upgrades and support the Navy in future space domain 
awareness demonstrations. We will continue U.S. Terminal High 
Altitude Area Defense, or THAAD, interceptor procurement, 
fielding and training support in collaboration with the U.S. 
Army to field the THAAD 4.0 capability to THAAD batteries by 
the end of 2025. THAAD 4.0 integrates Patriot capabilities with 
THAAD to increase Patriot defended area and engagement 
opportunities. We will also begin design work to improve the 
THAAD system to take on ever-advancing regional threats.
    We will continue development of a 360-degree layered 
missile defense capability for Guam. MDA construction on the 
Joint Command Center, AN/TPY-6 radar site, and launcher site 
will begin in fiscal year 2025. By the end of this year we will 
execute a flight experiment against a medium-range ballistic 
missile target, using an SM-3 Block IIA interceptor, controlled 
by the initial Aegis Guam system, using the first TPY-6 
transportable array unit.
    Today our sea-based terminal defenses protect assets at sea 
and forces ashore from hypersonic threats. Working with the 
Navy, we anticipate delivering follow-on Increment 3 
capabilities in fiscal year 2025. The Glide Phase Interceptor 
program, or GPI, weapons system will enable a layered defense 
against hypersonic glide threats. By the end of fiscal year 
2024, MDA will select a single GPI interceptor design to 
complete development. We will continue to develop and mature 
the GPI capability and support the planned cooperative 
development of the GPI with Japan.
    We launched the Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space 
Sensor, or HBTSS, prototype satellites in February of this year 
to demonstrate fire control solutions generated against 
hypersonic maneuvering threats from space. Following successful 
demonstration of HBTSS, the responsibility for fielding HBTSS 
like fire control capabilities will be taken on by the U.S. 
Space Force.
    I am honored by this opportunity. I greatly appreciate 
everything this Committee does for Missile Defense Agency and 
the missile defense mission, and I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Lieutenant General Heath A. 
Collins follows:]

       Prepared Statement by Lieutenant General Heath A. Collins
    Chairman King, Vice Chairman Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, I am honored to appear before you today to discuss 
the Missile Defense Agency (MDA) budget request of $10.4 billion for 
fiscal year 2025. Our request will enable the continued execution of 
the MDA mission to develop, deploy, and support a layered Missile 
Defense System to defend the United States and its deployed forces, 
allies, and international partners from increasingly diverse and 
dangerous missile threats.
    As we witnessed on April 13, 2024, when Iranian forces in Yemen 
launched over 100 ballistic missiles in addition to cruise missiles and 
unmanned aerial vehicles against Israel, our potential adversaries 
place a high priority on developing capabilities to defeat U.S. and 
allied missile defenses. They are well resourced and are testing and 
fielding advanced ballistic, hypersonic, and cruise missiles that are 
increasingly accurate, survivable, and capable of achieving longer 
ranges and higher levels of maneuverability. Today, many of the newest 
systems, including hypersonic and anti-ship ballistic missiles, are 
undergoing unprecedented combat evaluation in Ukraine and the Middle 
East. This could potentially lead to innovations that challenge missile 
defenses and lead to broader proliferation as the battlefield 
effectiveness of these systems is demonstrated. The attack last month 
against Israel and the ongoing war in Ukraine also highlight the 
importance of being prepared to defend against large raid sizes 
involving diverse missile threats. We must prepare ourselves to defend 
against a level of capability and capacity we have never seen before.
    Ensuring our Combatant Commanders and Services have what they need 
to fight today and win tomorrow is my top priority. Continuous and 
frank collaboration with the Warfighter is essential to delivering 
adaptable, affordable capabilities as fast as possible to defeat an 
increasingly diverse and unprecedented missile threat set. As part of 
the Department's missile defense enterprise, MDA is committed to 
collaborating closely with the Warfighter throughout the lifecycle of a 
capability. There are proven processes in place to identify, 
prioritize, assess, and validate Warfighter requirements and requests 
for modifications and upgrades to systems already fielded. MDA works 
with the Warfighter early in the technology development and product 
development phases to address a requested capability. We also support 
Lead Military Department efforts to plan for Doctrine, Organization, 
Training, Materiel, Leadership and Education, Personnel, Facilities, 
and Policy factors. Once a capability is fielded, close collaboration 
with the Services and Combatant Commands is essential to sustaining and 
enhancing that capability throughout its service life. Finally, MDA 
provides real-time technical support to the warfighter, as demonstrated 
during recent real world operations.
                 urgency of hypersonic missile defense
    Initially just focused on ballistic missile defense, MDA today is 
developing weapons systems and sensors to defeat the serious threat 
posed by hypersonic glide vehicles and maneuvering threats. MDA 
continues to develop a layered defense capability to defeat regional 
hypersonic threats with the Glide Phase Intercept (GPI) development 
program. By the end of fiscal year 2024, MDA will select a single GPI 
interceptor design with which to complete development. In fiscal year 
2025, MDA will continue to develop and mature the GPI capability with a 
focus on critical technology maturation and risk reduction activities. 
We will also continue to update the Aegis Weapon System to integrate 
the GPI interceptor. Our fiscal year 2025 budget request supports the 
planned cooperative development of the glide phase interceptor with 
Japan. We expect to complete the formal agreement on that project this 
spring. Japan will fund and develop key missile components, primarily 
propulsion elements.
    The GPI weapon system design will provide a layered defense with 
currently deployed Sea-Based Terminal (SBT) capabilities. SBT provides 
terminal defense of assets at sea and forces ashore. We anticipate 
delivering SBT Increment 3 capabilities in fiscal year 2025 to provide 
expanded capability. SBT will demonstrate a simulated engagement 
against an operationally realistic hypersonic glide vehicle target in 
fiscal year 2025, and an engagement using a Standard Missile (SM)-6 
against a hypersonic glide target in fiscal year 2026.
    The Missile Defense System will increasingly leverage the space 
domain with our Service partners to gain a strategic edge against 
advanced missile threats. MDA already has demonstrated the ability to 
generate a fire control solution to track and engage ballistic missile 
targets using the Space Tracking and Surveillance System demonstration 
satellites, which are now decommissioned. Today, MDA is on-orbit with 
the Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor (HBTSS) and 
preparing to demonstrate fire control solutions generated from 
satellites against missile threats that glide and maneuver at 
hypersonic velocities through the atmosphere. MDA is collaborating with 
the U.S. Space Force Space Development Agency to demonstrate a fire-
control capability to track and defeat advanced missile threats. 
HBTSS's Launch and Early Orbit Testing period, which began on February 
14, 2024, will be followed by testing to characterize and validate 
performance of the two HBTSS prototype satellites by leveraging MDA and 
cooperative flight test events. Following a successful demonstration of 
HBTSS, the responsibility for fielding HBTSS fire-control capabilities 
will be transferred to the Space Force. When fully operational, the 
fire-control capability developed through MDA's HBTSS program will be 
part of the Space Force Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture and 
provide a capability to detect hypersonic, ballistic, and other 
advanced threats earlier than terrestrial radars and send tracking data 
to the Missile Defense System for handover to missile defense weapons 
for engagement.
    MDA upgraded the Ballistic Missile Defense System Overhead 
Persistent Infrared (OPIR) Architecture (BOA) 3 years earlier than 
planned to provide expanded hypersonic tracking capability. Ongoing BOA 
8.1 development updates the system architecture to integrate increased 
raid-handling capability in Increment 8/9. These system architecture 
updates enable initial integration of Space Development Agency Low 
Earth Orbit and Space Force Space Systems Command Medium Earth Orbit 
sensors into BOA for improved tracking and fire control. Fiscal year 
2025 funding will continue to develop and test Increment 6C/7 to 
deliver expanded support that leverages systems and sensors to track 
maneuvering, hypersonic non-ballistic missiles as well as report 
maneuvering tracks and impact area predictions to external systems. 
Increment 6C/7 will also update Command and Control, Battle Management 
and Communications (C2BMC) to prioritize supporting sensors for defense 
against hypersonic glide threats.
                            homeland defense
    The Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system has protected the 
U.S. homeland from rogue long-range ballistic missile attacks for 
almost 20 years. Today, we are improving the reliability of the in-
service fleet and developing new capabilities to address the limited 
but increasingly advanced North Korean long-range ballistic missiles. 
We continue the U.S. Northern Command's Ground Based Interceptor (GBI) 
Service Life Extension Program to improve reliability and availability, 
which we anticipate will extend portions of the existing fleet. These 
interceptors will help mitigate risk until the Next Generation 
Interceptor (NGI) is fielded no later than the end of 2028. In 
parallel, MDA continues to upgrade the ground system infrastructure, 
communications network, fire control system, warfighter training 
systems, and missile fields to improve the reliability, capability, 
cybersecurity, and resiliency of the GMD weapon system.
    In December 2023, we successfully executed a GMD intercept flight 
test, demonstrating the weapon system's capability to intercept an 
Intermediate Range Ballistic Missile target using the 2-/3-stage 
selectable GBI in 2-Stage mode equipped with a Capability Enhanced-II 
Block 1 Exo-atmospheric Kill Vehicle. This was the first intercept 
flight test of a 3-stage GBI operating in 2-stage mode, meaning the 
third stage was commanded not to ignite. The earlier release of the 
kill vehicle provides increased battlespace to the warfighter to 
execute closer range engagements. With a successful Operational 
Capability Baseline decision for Increment 6.B in late fiscal year 
2024, the software enabling the selectable 2-/3-stage will be deployed 
for the GBI fleet.
    We are developing the Next Generation Interceptor to improve the 
GMD system's ability to defend against future threats. The Next 
Generation Interceptor program is currently in its Technology 
Development Phase and will transition to its Product Development Phase 
in May 2024. Recently, each one of the two competing Prime Contractor 
teams successfully completed their Preliminary Design Reviews and 
Knowledge Points #1. MDA applied lessons learned from other large-scale 
defense programs that faced increasing costs due to extended design 
phases involving multiple competitive solution teams which adversely 
impacted schedule. Due to accelerated contractor execution schedules, 
MDA had an appreciably larger body of technical knowledge and data 
available to assess contractor performance ahead of a traditional 
systems development at this point in the design maturation process. 
Consistent with the down select contract clause, MDA completed a best 
value determination using contractor provided objective evidence from 
their Preliminary Design Reviews and Knowledge Points #1. Last month, 
MDA selected Lockheed Martin to continue development, testing, 
production, and fielding of Nation's Next Generation Interceptor.
    To support defense of the homeland, MDA is developing, deploying, 
and sustaining a robust, cyber-secure and networked ground-and sea-
based radar architecture that includes the Long Range Discrimination 
Radar (LRDR) located at Clear Space Force Station, Alaska. LRDR 
enhances tracking and discrimination, hit assessment, and space-
intelligence data collection. The LRDR successfully tracked and 
discriminated a medium-range ballistic missile (MRBM) target in 
September 2023. When the radar is added to MDA's Operational Capability 
Baseline (OCB) in December 2024, LRDR will support the GMD capability 
against long-range missile threats. The LRDR completed a Space Domain 
Awareness (SDA) data collect event in January 2024 and, subsequently, 
MDA confirmed LRDR and C2BMC are ready and available to provide Space 
Domain Awareness (SDA) mission capabilities to U.S. Space Command in 
March. The U.S. Space Force declaration of LRDR ready for early SDA use 
is imminent. In fiscal year 2025, LRDR will continue support of SDA and 
will be added to the OCB for the missile defense mission.
    The Sea-Based X-Band (SBX) radar provides a relocatable, precision 
midcourse tracking and discrimination capability supporting homeland 
defense operations, Missile Defense System testing, data collection, 
and SDA. SBX completed a rigorous in-port maintenance and capability 
upgrade period in March 2023 and is currently deployed at-sea 
conducting homeland defense operations. Fabrication of the SBX 
replacement radome continues on schedule for installation in January 
2026.
    Upgraded Early Warning Radars (UEWRs) and the COBRA DANE radar 
support homeland missile defense and improve midcourse Missile Defense 
System sensor coverage by providing critical early warning, tracking, 
object classification, and cueing data. They also provide critical 
missile warning data and space object detection and tracking data for 
the Space Surveillance Network. While the Space Force is the overall 
UEWR and COBRA DANE sustainment organization, MDA provides sustainment 
support for the radars located in California, Massachusetts, Alaska, 
United Kingdom, and Greenland.
    There are five AN/TPY-2 forward-based radar sites currently 
deployed worldwide that augment our capabilities to execute the 
homeland defense mission. Operating at forward locations in key 
regions, these radars extend detection and early warning capabilities 
and enhance our ability to track and discriminate inbound targets 
earlier.
    The Space-based Kill Assessment (SKA) experiment of infrared 
sensors continues to demonstrate hit assessment capabilities for 
homeland defense. SKA sensors will continue to provide situational 
awareness of intercepts to U.S. Northern Command and participate in 
flight tests and engineering activities to characterize sensor 
capabilities that provide data to support future Post Intercept 
Assessment capabilities.
    Meeting the current and future ballistic missile threat for 
homeland and regional defense requires global persistence and increased 
precision and accuracy. The Discriminating Space Sensor (DSS) program, 
designed to perform birth-to-death tracking and global coverage for 
discrimination against ballistic missile threat targets, is moving into 
the next phase of development after successfully completing its ground 
concept feasibility phase. The next phase, space demonstration, will 
develop the on-orbit demonstrator and follow a similar path as HBTSS 
capabilities leading to incorporation into the operational Proliferated 
Warfighter Space Architecture.
    C2BMC Spiral 8.2-5 will enable homeland defense capabilities by 
providing critical LRDR data to GMD. C2BMC conducts command and control 
functions for LRDR and executes tasking in direct support of GMD 
engagements. C2BMC Spiral 8.2-5 delivers the initial ability to receive 
messages from space command and control to generate acquisition tasking 
for Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) and LRDR. C2BMC S8.2-5 also 
enables the capability to task Aegis BMD and LRDR to detect, track and 
report on resident space objects.
                            regional defense
    Globally deployed ship-based and land-based Aegis BMD capabilities 
are critical to the Nation's defense of our deployed forces, allies, 
and partners against a wide variety of short-, medium-, and 
intermediate-range missile threats. In fiscal year 2025, MDA is 
designing improvements to the Aegis BMD capability, improving SBT 
defense, advancing weapon system and missile reliability, and enhancing 
Aegis BMD engagement capacity and lethality. As the Members of this 
Subcommittee are aware, the Aegis Weapon System, the Standard Missile 
(SM)-3 Block IB, and the system operators onboard the USS Arleigh Burke 
and the USS Carney were highly effective in countering the ballistic 
missiles fired against Israel last month. We will continue to develop 
Aegis BMD weapon system software to enhance functionality and leverage 
more-capable radars and National Technical Means.
    MDA continues to support defense of NATO's European territory and 
forces against the ballistic missile threat from outside the Euro-
Atlantic region. Aegis Ashore in Romania is operational, and the Chief 
of Naval Operations accepted Aegis Ashore Poland in December 2023, 
marking completion of a key MDA contribution to Phase 3 of the European 
Phased Adaptive Approach. The Poland site is undergoing a maintenance 
period to upgrade the computer networks and communications systems, 
which is funded and operated by the U.S. Navy. This will be followed by 
U.S. European Command acceptance of the site. Then there will be a 
transfer of authority from U.S. European Command to NATO. Both Aegis 
Ashore sites are designed to launch the SM-3 Block IBTU and Block IIA 
missiles.
    In the fiscal year 2025 budget, MDA continues to procure the SM-3 
Block IIA missile. Previous and planned procurements are on pace to 
meet current Navy Inventory Objective requirements for Block IIA in 
fiscal year 2032 as defined by the outcome of the Navy Munitions 
Requirement process. The fiscal year 2025 Budget proposes to 
discontinue further production of the SM-3 Block IB missile in favor of 
SM-3 BLK IIA and continue to evolve the BLK IIA missile within the 
Aegis Weapons System. MDA will continue to deliver prior year 
procurements of Block IB and sustain the existing inventory. The final 
Block IB delivery is currently expected in fiscal year 2028. The SM-3 
Block IB has a twelve-year service life and the oldest Block IBs in the 
fleet will begin to reach the end of service life in fiscal year 2026. 
The combination of demilitarization and termination of new procurements 
will result in SM-3 Block IB inventory peaking in fiscal year 2027. The 
inventory of all variants of SM-3 missiles is managed through the 
Navy's Global Force Management process to address the capacity 
requirements for Defense of Guam, European Phased Adaptive Approach, 
and other Combatant Commander requirements. We will continue to develop 
Aegis BMD weapon system software to enhance functionality and leverage 
more-capable radars and National Technical Means.
    MDA provides software upgrades to Aegis integrated missile defense 
destroyers equipped with the AN/SPY-1 radar to support the Space Force 
Space Domain Awareness mission. The Aegis SDA capability is fully 
compatible with deployed Navy operations and has appropriate safeguards 
supporting full Aegis missile defense warfighting capability. We 
transitioned this important capability to the Navy and supported 
successful demonstrations on USS Rafael Peralta (DDG 115) in June 2023 
and USS Mason (DDG 87) in October 2023. In fiscal year 2025, we will 
continue to test and deliver this upgrade and support the Navy in 
future SDA demonstrations.
    The Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) Weapon System is a 
globally transportable, ground-based system that is highly effective 
against short-, medium-and intermediate-range missile threats inside 
and outside the atmosphere in the terminal phase of flight. MDA 
currently supports forward-deployment of two batteries stationed in the 
U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) area of responsibility and an 
emergency deployment in the U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) area of 
responsibility. In fiscal year 2025, we will continue U.S. THAAD 
interceptor procurement, production of battery hardware, obsolescence 
mitigation efforts, fielding and training support, the THAAD Stockpile 
Reliability Program, and modifications to meet growing cybersecurity 
threats. THAAD will continue to demonstrate capability improvements 
with rigorous testing throughout the Future Years Defense Program.
    THAAD, in conjunction with the U.S. Army, is in the process of 
fielding the THAAD 4.0 capability to all THAAD batteries. The upgrade 
was completed at the battery located in Guam in November 2023, and we 
are in the process of upgrading remaining batteries to be completed by 
the end of 2025. TH 4.0 capability enables remote launch, Patriot 
Launch-on-Remote, and integration of Army Patriot Missile Segment 
Enhancement (MSE) launchers and missiles into the THAAD battery. This 
capability increases Patriot defended area and engagement opportunities 
by allowing the MSE interceptor to leverage the highly effective THAAD 
AN/TPY-2 radar.
    THAAD System Build 5.0 is in development and is the largest 
hardware refresh to-date with operational availability in July 2026. TH 
5.0 includes hardware upgrades that address obsolescence and enhances 
the mission assurance and cybersecurity posture of the weapon system. 
TH 5.0 incorporates system safety enhancements and engagement 
refinements resulting in improved performance against the current THAAD 
assessed threat set.
    THAAD System Build 6.0 operational availability has been expedited 
to 2027 from 2032 and will provide initial capability against 
maneuvering threats and increase the threat engagement space. TH 6.0 
includes capability enhancements to the THAAD interceptor, increased 
integration with Patriot MSE, and improvements to the cybersecurity 
risk posture and program protection. Additionally, THAAD will begin 
initial systems engineering in fiscal year 2025 to support the Army's 
Integrated Air and Missile Defense (IAMD) Battle Command System (IBCS) 
integration of THAAD.
    AN/TPY-2 radars deployed abroad support THAAD batteries for 
regional defense. Radar 13, planned for delivery in the second quarter 
of fiscal year 2025, will be part of THAAD Battery 8. Radar 13 includes 
significant obsolescence redesigns that are leveraged from ongoing 
Foreign Military Sales (FMS) cases. As a supplement to each of these 
weapon systems in regional defense roles, the AN/TPY-2 forward-based 
radars mentioned earlier extend the capabilities of each by expanding 
their detection range and enhancing their ability track and 
discriminate enemy launches. These radars greatly enhance our ability 
to protect our allies and deployed soldiers in a regional defense 
mission.
    The C2BMC system includes the operation of a global network 
enterprise with equipment and personnel in 25 locations across 14 time 
zones. Funding in fiscal year 2025 continues to provide situational 
awareness, battle management, training, and SDA capabilities to users 
within each Combatant Command as well as the global missile defense 
network. Over the past year the C2BMC system provided INDOPACOM with 
the ability to acquire and exchange missile track data with multiple 
partner nations' command and control systems to demonstrate strength in 
partnering with allies for collective regional missile defense. Funding 
in fiscal year 2025 continues this effort and includes support for 
warfighter contingency activities such as those in support of Israel. 
MDA's C2BMC system is providing sensor data to cue Aegis ships in the 
region from continued attacks on shipping and other partner interests 
in the region.
    The Department is continuing development of a missile defense 
system for the defense of Guam against diverse missile threats. We will 
expand capability and capacity as the threat evolves. In collaboration 
with the Army and Navy, we are moving toward meeting an INDOPACOM 
requirement for a persistent 360-degree layered missile defense 
capability on Guam against simultaneous raids of cruise, ballistic, 
maneuvering, and hypersonic glide threats. The MDA MILCON designs will 
complete this calendar year and the Environmental Impact Study will 
complete in Calendar year 2025. MDA construction will begin in fiscal 
year 2025, establishing the joint command center, an AN/TPY-6 radar 
site, and a Navy Standard Missile Vertical Launch System (VLS) site. We 
will execute a flight experiment intercept in first quarter fiscal year 
2025 demonstrating the increased Guam protection capabilities the 
Department is developing for the western most territories of the 
homeland, while the integrated Aegis Guam System continues final design 
and testing.
              leveraging science and technology innovation
    MDA is investing in disruptive technologies to deliver dynamic, 
next generation missile defense capabilities. MDA has an integrated, 
strategic Science and Technology (S&T) approach that prioritizes 
identifying and maturing transformational, leap-ahead technologies to 
address the future threat. Additionally, we continue to rapidly develop 
near-term technologies to support incremental Missile Defense System 
upgrades. MDA is collaborating with OSD, the Services and Warfighters, 
National Laboratories, Universities/Academia, International partners, 
and Industry (traditional and non-traditional defense partners) to 
leverage technology development. We are aligning our S&T roadmap to 
maximize cutting-edge technology to close capability gaps and meet 
warfighter requirements.
    Kinetic capabilities by themselves will not be adequate to keep 
pace with threats, which continue to increase in complexity, range, and 
quantity. Accordingly, MDA plans to enhance current kinetic kill 
capabilities with directed energy and other non-kinetic solutions. MDA 
is working with OSD and the Services to develop the technologies to 
support the development and integration of directed energy systems. In 
2024, a directed energy Independent Assessment Team (IAT) completed an 
evaluation to incorporate directed energy into the Missile Defense 
System. Based upon recent Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for 
Research & Engineering-funded increases in electric laser power levels 
and projected increases to 500 kilowatt-class in 2 years, the IAT 
recommended that MDA fund a laser technology demonstrator. The Agency 
will initiate this effort with our Service partners beginning with 
long-range detect and track while technology continues to mature for 
the missile defense mission. We are also developing advanced sensors to 
improve position accuracy and range estimates of missile threats.
    The NanoSat Testbed Initiative (NTI) is a collaborative, 
experimental approach leveraging commercial satellite platforms to 
mature technology and perform risk reduction for encrypted 
communications in a meshed network in space to support Service and 
Agency initiatives. Space Edge Experiments and Demonstration (SEED) is 
a small form factor, Commercial-Off-The-Shelf (COTS) processor that 
leverages artificial intelligence and machine learning (AI/ML). SEED 
will fly on the Space Test Program (STP)-H10 mission to the 
International Space Station. The Laser Communications Experiment (LaCE) 
will demonstrate the viability of a low-SWaP (increasing the power 
while reducing the size and weight) optical inter-satellite-link 
between two nodes in LEO as a method for secure and assured space-to-
space communications.
    MDA continues with Asymmetric Left Through Right-of-launch 
Integration (LTRI) activities to further enhance offensive-defensive 
integration and improve overall full spectrum missile defeat 
capabilities. Asymmetric LTRI optimizes the efficiency and 
effectiveness of situational awareness between intelligence activities, 
offensive attack operations, and right-of-launch defenses. MDA has 
developed a medium fidelity model to simulate LTRI and is beginning to 
apply AI/ML to LTRI. MDA is collaborating with other government 
asymmetric multi-domain missile defeat efforts against ever advancing 
threats to optimize missile launch operations and provide data to 
inform decisionmaking in time critical situations.
    MDA is partnering and cost sharing with the Department of Defense 
and Services to leverage sounding rockets and experimental hypersonic 
platforms to develop and mature key technologies for advancing 
hypersonic defense. These activities are the Multi-service Advanced 
Capability Hypersonic Test Bed (MACH-TB), High Operational Tempo for 
Hypersonics (H4H), and Hypersonic Test Bed efforts, and include 
maturation of key technologies such as axial upper stage throttling, 
secured meshed communications, survivable and optically optimal seeker 
windows, advanced materials characterization, hypersonic wind tunnel 
testing, and low cost, high yield thermal protection systems capable of 
surviving the harsh hypersonic environment.
    MDA is actively engaging with Allies and international partners to 
leverage opportunities for collaborative development of missile defense 
S&T to advance capabilities in the areas of hypersonic weapons, 
integrated air and missile defenses, advanced sensing, battle 
management command, control and communications, directed energy, and 
AI/ML.
                         international programs
    Close collaboration with our Allies and partners is critical for 
addressing today's security challenges. MDA's international cooperation 
supports guidance outlined in the Missile Defense Review, Combatant 
Command priorities, and partner requirements. MDA actively and closely 
engages with multiple partners across the globe to build capability and 
interoperability against missile threats.
    In the INDOPACOM region, MDA's most robust and wide-ranging 
cooperation is with Japan. In addition to the collaboration on glide 
phase interceptor development, Japan continues to acquire SM-3 Block IB 
and Block IIA interceptors via FMS. MDA is also executing an FMS case 
to provide the weapon system components and associated software for two 
Japanese-built Aegis System Equipped Vessels. MDA is working with 
Australia to support its development of a Joint Air Battle Management 
System that will integrate Australia's air and missile defenses and 
enable interoperability with U.S. and other allied Integrated Air and 
Missile Defense capabilities. Finally, MDA conducts cooperative 
research and development projects and studies with Japan, Republic of 
Korea, and Australia.
    In Europe, MDA is assisting the United Kingdom to develop 
requirements for its potential purchase of a persistent discrimination 
radar that will complement NATO missile defenses. MDA also has a number 
of ongoing cooperative research and development projects and studies 
with the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, and the UK. Finally, MDA 
continues working closely with NATO by providing subject-matter 
expertise to the NATO Communication and Information Agency for the 
continuous testing and interoperability of BMD systems.
    In the Middle East, MDA has a strong, long-standing relationship 
with the Israel Missile Defense Organization. Through this cooperation 
MDA provides $500 million per year, and additionally any supplemental 
funding approved by Congress, for programs including Arrow, David's 
Sling, and Iron Dome--all of these systems have proven their value in 
Operation Swords of Iron. MDA has worked closely with our Israeli 
partners throughout this conflict to identify and assess areas where 
increased U.S. support would be beneficial. MDA's THAAD program is also 
a major asset for cooperation within U.S. Central Command's Area of 
Responsibility. Finally, MDA is leading a project to develop a regional 
missile early warning architecture for the Gulf Cooperation Council.
                               conclusion
    Chairman King, Vice Chairman Fischer, Members of the Subcommittee, 
we are committed to attracting and building a strong, skilled workforce 
that will continue to focus on providing what the warfighter needs to 
win today and tomorrow. I would like to recognize and thank the men and 
women who serve in our Armed Forces at home and abroad and who operate 
the Missile Defense System with the support of our dedicated civilian 
and contractor workforce. I appreciate your continued support for MDA 
and the missile defense mission, and I look forward to answering the 
Committee's questions. Thank you.

    Senator King. Senator Fischer.

                STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and my apologies 
for being late to this hearing. I came from another meeting. 
Welcome to all of our witnesses. We appreciate you appearing 
before us today, and we look forward to hearing from each of 
you.
    I am pleased to see progress being made on several programs 
over the last year, including continued development of the 
Missile Defense Agency's Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking 
Space Sensor and the Next Generation Interceptor program.
    However, I remain concerned that we are moving far too 
slowly on developing defenses against hypersonic weapons. In 
Section 1666 of last year's NDAA, this Committee directed the 
Department to achieve initial operational capability for the 
Glide Phase Interceptor Program not later than December 31, 
2029. Yet the Missile Defense Agency's budget request included 
no funding for accelerating the development of the Glide Phase 
Interceptor. Instead, it pushed it out even further, and that 
is far too late.
    I am also deeply concerned about the slow speed at which 
the Department is addressing recovery efforts from the rogue 
wave that devastated facilities at the Reagan Test Site in the 
Marshall Islands. We cannot allow critical testing capabilities 
for our nuclear deterrent and other long-range missile system 
to be undermined by a too-slow recovery.
    I look forward to hearing more from our witnesses about 
these issues and about how the fiscal year 2025 request would 
impact their mission.
    Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. You all know me as a mild-mannered, 
reasonable guy, but I am not going to be mild-mannered today. 
The truth is we have no defense for hypersonic missiles. Yes or 
no? Mr. Hill, any defense on hypersonic missile? You are the 
commander of an aircraft carrier in the Greenland Gap. If a 
hypersonic missile launched from Murmansk, 6,000 miles an hour, 
what do you do?
    Mr. Hill. We have some systems that defend in the terminal 
stage but we need more. You are correct, Senator King and 
Senator Fischer, that our hypersonic defenses are inadequate, 
and we do need--So SM-6 is in the Navy's terminal range. 
Patriot, I will let General Gainey speak to the specifics on 
that. Those are examples. But no argument--we need focus on 
hypersonic defenses.
    Senator King. So why are we talking about 2029 and even 
stretching that out. This is next year kind of stuff. I do not 
get it. I do not get your budget.
    Mr. Hill. What we faced in this year, in the budget this 
year, it was a very difficult year, particularly with Fiscal 
Responsibility Act caps that we had to work with, with the 
must-pay bills that had to go in for the personnel, the 
salaries, the health care, inflation costs. When you get down 
to the point of what was left for the discretionary types of 
things, where you can really control your choices, you are 
focusing on trades between readiness----
    Senator King. That is your mission. Your mission is missile 
defense.
    Mr. Hill. Yes. The budget decisions at the aggregate level 
are made at a higher level, and so you are trading off between 
readiness or your future investments.
    Senator King. Well, let me put the question in another way. 
Let's say what happened on April 14th happened over the Arctic 
Ocean, 300 missiles, drones, UAVs came across the Arctic Ocean 
toward Canada and North America. Could we do what Israel and we 
and other countries did? Could we knock down 99 percent of 
those missiles coming in, if that had happened in the northern 
part of the world?
    Mr. Hill. If I may, that is in the realm of the 
responsibility of the Commander of NORTHCOM.
    Senator King. Okay. So, could we have done what happened on 
April 14th?
    General Guillot. No, Chairman.
    Senator King. No. That is of concern. What is the gap? Is 
the gap interceptors? Is the gap sensors? How come they could 
do it over there and we cannot do it here?
    General Guillot. Part of the reason, Mr. Chairman, is 
because they have the
    [inaudible]. Up to the current time we have the capability 
in the services but they are not assigned to the NORTHCOM AOR.
    Now also just the numbers of assets that we have in the 
region right now would not be sufficient to meet the attack of 
that size, that the Iranian forces----
    Senator King. In fact, our capability in the region is 
aimed toward North Korea. Is that not correct?
    General Guillot. That is correct.
    Senator King. It is not designed to take on Russia or 
China, but that is where the threat is.
    What is the cost of one GBI?
    Lieutenant General Collins. So the GBI is approximately $80 
million, $85 million.
    Senator King. One missile to intercept an incoming missile 
is $80 million. Is that correct?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes, sir. For an 
intercontinental ballistic missile class interceptor, yes, sir.
    Senator King. Well, in the Red Sea the Houthis are sending 
$20,000 drones, and we are shooting them down with missiles 
that cost 4.3. The math does not work on that, gentlemen. I 
mean, it just does not work. What are we thinking?
    Okay, here is what I am getting at. Your budget for 
directed energy is 1/1,000ths of your total budget. It has gone 
down from $140 million a year to $15 million a year. What in 
the hell are you guys thinking? Directed energy is the answer. 
It costs 25 cents a shot, and the budget has gone down from 
$140 million to $15 million a year. That is scandal. We cannot 
possibly defend ourselves with $80 million missiles. There is 
not enough money in the whole world for that. Somebody give me 
an explanation of why, and I have got the data right here. In 
2018, $141.5 million for directed energy, fiscal year 2025, 
$15.6.
    Mr. Hill. Senator King, that is the portion of directed 
energy that is for the Missile Defense Agency. Across----
    Senator King. Is that not your business, missile defense?
    Mr. Hill. Yes, but they have part of the missile defense 
piece. A lot of the air defense, a lot of what the directed 
energy supports, is actually done in the Army or in the Navy. 
There is a little over $200 million in directed energy 
programs, but I take the point that that is----
    Senator King. Well, that may not be enough. The budget for 
the entire Defense Department for directed energy is also down 
by something like two-thirds, and I do not get it, because we 
cannot go on hitting bullets with bullets, with very expensive 
bullets. Particularly we are talking about very expensive 
bullets hitting very cheap drones. Directed energy can do that. 
We know it can do that, and I do not understand. That directed 
energy budget should be going like this instead of like this.
    Mr. Hill. Directed energy is a very important part. It has 
to be a very important part of missile defeat.
    Senator King. Well, I agree with you. The budgets are 
policy, Mr. Secretary, and the policy is directed energy ain't 
very important. It goes from $140 million to $15. That does not 
tell me the Department is valuing it very much.
    So I will look forward to some further response, because 
right now we do not have much missile defense. That is the 
truth, whether it is to hypersonics, to drones. I would like 
you guys to go back and really rethink, what is your mission? 
If your mission is missile defense, we need to reorient what it 
is you do, and someday you will see me when I really mean it.
    Vice Chair, go.
    Senator Fischer. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rosen. He is fired up.
    Senator Fischer. Yes, we all are. We all are.
    First of all, I would like to thank our military men who 
are here today. I thank you for the information you give us, 
not just at these open hearings but at our classified 
briefings, as well. You are open. You are honest about your 
needs. I will not put you on the spot here because you do serve 
the commander-in-chief. You serve the Secretary of Defense.
    Mr. Hill, you are on the spot. I thank you for the work you 
do too, but when is this Administration going to listen to you, 
and to listen to the expert advice and information that our 
military gives them about what we need to defend the Homeland? 
We hear from constituents who are angry because we are not 
protecting our southern border, that we have chaos at the 
border. We just heard we have chaos everywhere when it comes to 
the security of our Homeland.
    What is it going to take? Do not push it back, well, it is 
up to Congress to appropriate the money, it is up to Congress 
to set it. Because you are giving us your budget here and now. 
You are the ones presenting the budget with the advice of the 
military here with you. It is very upsetting knowing what we 
need and not being able to discuss it, so I thank you for your 
openness in this hearing, and your answers in this hearing, but 
what we need to have, and I hope the American people are 
listening.
    With that, General Collins, as I noted in my opening 
statement this Committee has been very clear in our direction 
to accelerate the development of the Glide-Phase Interceptor 
system. If provided with additional resources, what steps would 
you be able to take to meet the congressionally mandated 
initial operational capability date of 2029?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Thank you, Senator. Thank you, 
Vice Chairman. As we talked about just a second ago, the 
resource decisions may put us in a tough spot, in a tough 
decision on the GPI program.
    Senator Fischer. Yes, but if you had what you needed, can 
you reach it?
    Lieutenant General Collins. With the design of the system 
and the way the system is set up and the technology maturation 
that we have playing out over the next 4 or 5 years, 2029, with 
the existing GPI plan, will be a very hard date to meet as we 
move forward. Very, very, very high risk program to do that.
    But in that Section 1666, we were tasked to come up with 
options, and we are working with our industry partners, with 
our service partners, for options within the GPI program, and 
potentially outside the GPI program, to bring capability to 
bear against the hypersonic threat. We will incorporate that 
into that report and deliver that later this year, with option 
space and resource informed, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Gainey, I am concerned 
that the Army is not appropriately prioritizing disaster 
recovery efforts for the Reagan Test Site. We know that it is 
the linchpin of the development and testing of every long-range 
missile system of the United States, and we cannot afford 
further delays.
    So what can we expect to see, or when can we expect to see 
a disaster recovery plan from the SMDC [Space and Missile 
Defense Command]?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Ma'am, thank you for that 
question, and thank you for highlighting Kwajalein Atoll, a 
strategic location to our Nation, and specifically in the 
Pacific. We have a great team out at Kwajalein. Team Kwajalein 
is doing amazing things, tight community, expertise in 
engineering and in very important mission.
    We have moved significantly forward with the recovery ops. 
The challenge is not so much the recovery ops right now, 
because we are able to continue testing, and we will be able to 
perform our strategic testing. I will personally be out there 
in June for one of our testing events that will occur. It is 
the long-term infrastructure challenges on Kwajalein that we 
have to address. The rogue wave just highlighted a significant 
issue that had been building up over years, and now we have to 
prioritize and address those infrastructure challenges as we 
move forward, so we can provide the community for our soldiers, 
civilians, engineers that are out there doing a critical 
mission as we move forward.
    Senator Fischer. Do you have a plan in place right now to 
be able to address that?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. We have a plan, and we, in the 
Army, are looking at command and control options, restructure 
options to more efficiently be able to get after the challenges 
on Kwajalein. Also we are looking at how can we do more at 
Kwajalein leveraging INDOPACOM and USARPAC as part of that 
strategic location, to help us build on that infrastructure out 
there to do more for the Pacific than it is doing now. That is 
how we are focusing, from an integrated approach.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Senator King. Before I call on Senator Rosen I just want to 
assure you, my comments were not in any way personal. You all 
are doing everything you can. But I think the agency needs to 
take a deep look at itself in light of what we have learned 
from Ukraine and from Israel and from developments in 
technology. Drones have become ubiquitous just in the last 3 or 
4 years, and that is what I am hoping to get across in a 
somewhat intemperate way. But I wanted to make my point.
    Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Well, that is good because you actually set 
me up for my next question, so thank you. You did not even know 
that, so thank you, Chairman and Ranking Member. I really want 
to thank you for serving. I guess all times are challenging, 
but we are in an especially challenging time.
    I want to talk about some of the lessons that we have 
learned from Iran's attack on Israel. General Collins, the 
recent Iranian attack on Israel really did demonstrate how 
truly effective integrated air and missile defense systems can 
function to prevent a large-scale and layered attack. More than 
300 missiles and drones we know launched against Israel, and an 
integrated system from numerous countries, including air 
partners in the region, were able to defeat the threat.
    So I have kind of a multipart question. General, what 
lessons have we learned from the attack, and really, how 
complicated is it to establish a system that is able to foil 
the attack? How vulnerable is an integrated air and missile 
system to cyberattack? As we talk about being with multiple 
countries, and of course, are you budgeting for this in the 
future? Because as we said, the budget is the blueprint. We see 
what has happened.
    How do we have to rethink that? I know I bundled a bunch 
there.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Thank you, Senator, for that 
question, and it is a really important question. Integrated air 
and missile defense, as we have seen in Ukraine, as we see in 
Israel. The adversaries are throwing integrated air and missile 
offenses at us. We really do need to make sure that we have 
integrated air and missile defenses in place to defeat those.
    It is a combination of a lot of different players. The 
Missile Defense Agency's main threat space is ballistic and 
hypersonic missiles. The service picks up the integrated AMD 
for air and cruise missile threats. Then we do need to bring 
all of those together with our coalition partners to bring that 
together.
    Senator Rosen. Right, because our DEFEND Act we passed a 
few years ago, my DEFEND Act, created this air and missile 
defense that clearly worked.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Absolutely. Absolutely, and it 
worked very well. But it takes a long time to make it work 
right. General Gainey, in his opening comments, made some 
assertions about how much training and exercising and work we 
have done across the services and with our international 
partners to be able to demonstrate what happened that night.
    It will take the architecture, the test and training, and 
the partnership to really bring true IMD to the forefront. It 
may have looked easy. It was not easy to get there. It took a 
long time to get to what we demonstrated that night.
    As part of that architecting, as part of that development, 
as part of the testing to do that, cyber has to be at the 
ground floor of any of these concepts as we move forward. 
Within the missile defense system we have a comprehensive cyber 
test program from the element up through the system before we 
get to the field. As well as looking to do cyber defense while 
in the field. That has got to be foundational to everything we 
do in the future, because that will be absolutely critical. If 
the enemy gets inside IMD, then the IMD is unsuccessful.
    I am trying to remember the last part of your question.
    Senator Rosen. Are you forward thinking and forward 
budgeting? The budget is the blueprint, so we see what everyone 
is using, what the Chairman and Ranking Member have been 
talking about. How are you thinking about this for future 
budgets? What are you letting us know that we can put as a 
placeholder, develop? You name it. We have to take care of it.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes, ma'am. I will answer one 
and then hand it to General Gainey. But one this is, at Missile 
Defense Agency we have the technical authority for IAMD, the 
technical design for the architecture, and we have spent a lot 
of time, over a decade, working on a future joint tactical 
integrated fire control architecture with the services, and we 
are demonstrating the future capability of how----
    Senator Rosen. The future is now, I am afraid.
    Lieutenant General Collins. We just recently, at Project 
Convergence, Capstone 4, with the Army, demonstrated where we 
connected many assets from all the services together through a 
demonstration of this joint tactical management capability. We 
passed measurement-level data between an F-35 to a C-shooter. 
The C-shooter took a shot using F-35 threat data.
    Senator Rosen. That is great.
    Lieutenant General Collins. So we are continuing to move 
that forward. That is an effort that is near and dear to me, to 
push this integrated forward.
    I will hand it over to General Gainey with some thoughts.
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Yes, ma'am, and thanks for your 
question. Thanks for the opportunity to be able to respond. 
From an Army perspective, I wear the Army hat but also wearing 
the Joint hat, IAMD, also.
    But looking at the lessons learned I wanted to highlight 
earlier that we possess the capability to defeat a threat that 
we saw on April 14th. The work we have done with our partners 
and the work we have done from a joint perspective has helped 
us, and that was put on showcase on the 14th.
    The way the Army is moving forward, with our modernization, 
right now Patriot system is our cornerstone system. However, as 
we modernize with IBCS and we have asked for funding, we are 
getting funding to be able to do that, we are now going to move 
to more of a layered, tailored approach to the threat. So if we 
get a threat strike like we saw on the 14th, we will be 
tailored to be able to provide tactical ballistic capability or 
cruise missile capability or even drone capability within that 
tailored force by the way we are budgeting, modernizing our 
capability moving forward.
    So I am fully comfortable that the Army is taking those 
lessons learned and validates our path forward in modernization 
as an Army.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you very much.
    Senator King. Senator Rounds.
    [Pause.]
    Senator Rounds. Let me begin, General Guillot, based on our 
approach right now we have moved back into a near-peer 
competitor mode where we have two near peers. If you have to 
lay out for the American people what you see as the greatest 
threats that you have to defend against right now, share with 
me the vectors that you see these offensive weapons coming at 
us. What are the weapons that we are defending against today 
and that you are working on?
    General Guillot. Senator, the range of weapons is greater 
than it has been at any time in the past, so starting with the 
North Korean threat and the intercontinental ballistic missiles 
is probably the longest-range threat that I look at each day. 
Next would be the cruise missile threats that are not only air-
launched cruise missiles from Soviet bombers but also 
submarine-launched ballistic missiles that come from either 
coast, if the adversary submarines get close enough.
    The cyber threat. The cyber threat is the most present and 
persistent threat that we see. We see it on a daily basis, 
attacks from nation states and hacktivists trying to get into 
our systems, each day.
    Senator Rounds. What about drones?
    General Guillot. Drones are certainly an increasing threat. 
We see them, on average, reported that are detected in the 
NORTHCOM AOR is anywhere from two to five a week over 
installations, military installations. That is the only 
visibility I have; I know there are certainly more over other 
parts of critical infrastructure.
    Senator Rounds. Fair to say that our defense of the North 
American continent really has been based upon having the 
equipment to defend against the ICBM, number one, and to a 
lesser degree, the cruise missile, but until recently not a lot 
on drones because they are new, and not a lot with regard to 
cyber, except that which has moved through the system in the 
last 3, 4 years.
    General Guillot. Senator, I think that is accurate.
    Senator Rounds. If you take a look at the systems that we 
use to defend against them, these are very expensive weapons 
systems, are they not? The ICBM, the cruise missiles, and so 
forth are expensive, and really the equipment that we are 
using, our ability to shoot them down is with expensive 
systems, as the Chairman identified. But what we are really 
talking about here, with regard to ICBMs and cruise missiles, 
we are probably going to spend an expensive piece of machinery 
to catch up with them and take them out.
    But what we are seeing coming across in the Middle East 
right now, and in the Red Sea area, we are not talking really 
about a lot of ICBMs, but we are talking about cruise missiles, 
and we are talking about a huge number of drones.
    We are using weapons that were never made to take those 
out. Is that a fair statement?
    General Guillot. Yes, it is, Senator. To characterize what 
you said, we are using expensive weapons on UAVs, and to the 
cruise missiles. I think that directed energy, I think that 
laser, high-powered microwave capabilities, certainly for the 
UAVs, and even would have some capability against cruise 
missiles.
    Senator Rounds. But the problem, as I understand it, is 
that we have not made that move yet. We have not moved--and 
this is where I am going to move to what the threat is there 
over to General Collins here for just a second. The systems 
that you work on today are principally equipment that, as the 
Chairman has indicated, are going to be some very expensive 
responses to take out ICBMs and cruise missiles. Is that an 
accurate statement, sir?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Sir, our systems are designed 
against ballistic missiles, against ICBMs, but also against 
medium-range and short-range ballistic missiles. So the Aegis 
standard missile fleet, THAAD, those are also designed for 
regional area defense against theater ballistic missile class 
weapons. We do not cover down on cruise missiles.
    Senator Rounds. What is the least expensive missile defense 
system aboard an Aegis carrier, or a Patriot system, what is 
the least expensive actual targeting material we have got, per 
shot?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Senator, if you are talking Army 
air and missile defense systems right now, it is probably our 
Stinger. But--and this is what I want to clarify here--the 
Joint Counter UAS Office is working the counter-UAS threat, and 
we have systems specifically developed for the counter-UAS, 
specifically the Coyote interceptor. Which is a significantly 
cheaper interceptor than a Patriot or an SM-2 type interceptor. 
We are using that capability successfully in theater right now, 
and that is what we are using to address that threat. That 
organization is continuing to develop technology, work with our 
industry partners. We have also been successful with directed 
energy, and we are also, in the Army, are fielding a platoon of 
high-powered microwave capability that will eventually be able 
to be deployed, which will continue to bring down the cost 
curve.
    So the Army is really investing in directed energy, whether 
it is laser or high-powered microwave, and actually fielding it 
to the formation. So we have a directed energy, 50-kilowatt 
Stryker fielded to 4-60th ADA in support of First Armored 
Division, and we are fielding a platoon of high-powered 
microwave to 151 ADA support in 1st MDTF.
    So those systems are real and out information right now, 
and some of them deployed.
    Senator Rounds. And just to followup, because this is the 
part I think the Chairman was trying to make, is do you have 
enough in the budget right now to push those particular 
systems, and have they been budgeted for, or do you need your 
budgets improved to take advantage of those weapons systems?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. I would definitely say we need 
to have more, based off of the threat and the numbers of 
threats that we are seeing. We will definitely have to have 
more.
    Senator Rounds. How many of those weapons systems do you 
have today?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Total numbers?
    Senator Rounds. Yep.
    Lieutenant General Gainey. I can give you that number 
outside of this forum.
    Senator Rounds. Classified?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Yes. I can provide you those 
numbers.
    Senator Rounds. It is still in the development field, 
though?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. No. That capability, it is a 
prototype and it has not gone to a full-rate production program 
of record yet, but it is about to in the next 2 fiscal years. 
Because what the Army is doing, we are talking that capability 
and we are putting it inside of our divisions. So the first 
division set with the counter-UAS capability is being fielded 
now, first two divisions, and the third division will start 
fielding in fiscal year 2026, where we will actually have 
Coyote-based Strykers with that capability on Strykers.
    So the Army is moving forward as a program of record with 
this capability. It is not there now, but we are moving forward 
with it.
    Senator Rounds. One last question, just directed back to 
General Guillot. Are you incorporating those in the North 
American Defense Command today?
    General Guillot. We have requested to, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. When you say you have requested to, what is 
the holdup on it?
    General Guillot. Well, let me be clear. We have not 
requested Coyotes because of the kinetic capability in the 
homeland, but we have requested non-kinetic capabilities and 
directed energy weapons for counter-UAS.
    Senator Rounds. You have requested them.
    General Guillot. That is right. So the first one, Senator, 
as General Gainey mentioned, were pushed over to the AOR, were 
the CENTCOM area of responsibility. So we are watching closely 
the effectiveness there, and then as they learn and this system 
is proven, that is what I would like to employ here.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for 
your indulgence.
    Senator King. Mr. Cotton. Senator Cotton.
    Senator Cotton. You know, as I sit here and I listen to all 
this conversation about all the threats we face and all the 
inadequacies against those threats--it is great to hear all 
this talk of interceptors and directed energy systems--I cannot 
help but think maybe the easiest way to defend against all 
these missiles and drones would be to just blow them up on the 
ground before they ever get off, in warehouses or their 
assembly lines. I know none of you are in charge of these 
decisions. You all have in your title ``missile defense'' and 
``air defense'' and ``space defense,'' and all the rest.
    But I think under President Biden, the Department of 
Defense may take its name a bit too literally, if you look at 
what is happening in Yemen, for instance. All we are doing is 
shooting down missiles and drones that are in the air, coming 
our sailors or on the launchpad, ready to launch. We are not 
actually trying to destroy all of their capabilities. I 
understand there are reasons for that. That we cannot 
necessarily find and fix them all right now, but that is a 
problem in its own right. So you might try to get on offense as 
a good defense, rather than just have our sailors as sitting 
ducks, like so many of our troops around the region are sitting 
ducks.
    Speaking of sitting ducks, General Gainey, do you believe 
that the Army is providing adequate authority in a timely 
manner to unit to defend against drone attacks or surveillance?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Senator, thank you for that 
question. In CENTCOM AOR, yes. The great work----
    Senator Cotton. Worldwide. Everywhere.
    Lieutenant General Gainey.--the great work that has been 
done inside of CENTCOM has really set the stage to have 
globally relook the way we push authorities down. But that is 
obviously, Senator, as you know, because it is a conflict area, 
and missiles are being shot at our soldiers, so they have to 
have that authority delegated down.
    Authorities in CONUS are a little bit more challenging, 
and----
    Senator Cotton. What about PACOM?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. That is within the area air 
defense commander's purview on how he delegates his authorities 
down to the actual operator to be able to shoot his capability, 
and he retains that authority based off of the risk analysis 
that he is doing.
    Senator Cotton. What about----
    Lieutenant General Gainey. he has the ability to pass that 
authority all the way down to the operator level, but he 
chooses to withhold it now, which is in his authority.
    Senator Cotton. What about in Guam?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Same thing, because the area air 
defense commander inside of INDOPACOM is the PACAF commander, 
he also decides the authorities that are delegated to Guam, and 
he has the authority to delegate down further, if he chooses 
to.
    Senator Cotton. It is my understanding that we have got 
quite a few drones flying over our installations on Guam, and 
there has been no genuine response. Is that the case?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. I am not tracking no general 
response. It may be a challenge with where the capability is 
located on Guam, because most of the counter-UAS capability is 
localized, and I am not sure the situation of how it is----
    Senator Cotton. Who would have the authority to engage 
drones over Guam?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. It would be the local commander. 
We delegate the authority for drones to the local commander on 
that site, just because of the time and space you have to be 
able to delegate it too. So any discussions on delegation of 
authorities down even further to the operator would reside on 
Guam.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. While we are on the topic of Guam, 
General Gainey and maybe General Collins, as well, if you want 
to chime in, what is the status of the environmental impact 
statements for the 20 Guam defense system sites?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. As far as the impacts I will 
pass that to the Missile Defense Agency, who is doing the 
impact statements.
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes, sir. We are still in the 
middle of the environmental impact survey process. Our very 
first set of MILCON, military construction, money is in the 
fiscal year 2025, right now that EIS schedule on critical path. 
But we are on track to be able to award those MILCON contracts 
on schedule at the beginning of 2025.
    Senator Cotton. You said you are in process. When did that 
process begin?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Well before me. Probably over a 
1\1/2\, 2 years ago, is when the process starts.
    Senator Cotton. So 18 to 24 months ago, and it will not be 
finished for another 7 months, at least?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. That is bad for like a pipeline or a road, 
but that seems especially bad for air defense systems on one of 
our most critical forward deployed bases in PACOM.
    That is all. Bad.
    Senator King. You go ahead. We will have a second round. 
Yes, we will have a second round.
    Gentlemen, here is my problem, and I realize this is not in 
your level. This is Secretary of Defense, President, but high 
level of essentially allocation of resources. My problem is 
that Defense Department generally, research and development and 
construction of directed energy has fallen by 50 percent in the 
last 3 years, a little over $1.6 billion to a little under $800 
million. Each of the services, the Army in those 3 years, has 
fallen from $750 million to $150 million. That is a pretty 
dramatic decrease.
    My point is this is a major policy discussion, and we need 
to have it on our Committee, but I believe your agency has to 
have it as well. As I said before, what we have seen in the 
Middle East and what we have seen in Ukraine, it seems to me 
should cause some soul-searching within an agency whose name is 
``missile defense.'' Could we have done what the Israelis and 
we and the Arab countries did on April 14th? If the answer to 
that question is no, then we really have to go back and 
rethink.
    Again, we are talking about $80 million interceptors for 
ICBMs when, in fact, the more likely attack is going to come 
from air-launched cruise missiles, sea-launched missiles in the 
Arctic Ocean. You know, Sir Isaac Newton could tell you where 
an ICBM is going to go, but where a cruise missile, 
particularly a hypersonic cruise missile, is going to go is a 
very different problem that requires a very different solution, 
and economics also has to be part of it.
    So I really believe that we need to have a Department-wide, 
and frankly on this committee we have to have a discussion 
about where we are going, because budgets are policy. We can 
talk about research and everything else, but if the budget has 
been cut in half, that tells me that this is not a priority for 
the Administration or for the Department of Defense.
    So that is my comment. When a budget is cut in half that 
just tells me it is not very important.
    Senator Fischer?
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Chairman. Mr. Hill, in the 
fiscal year 2025 budget request the Missile Defense Agency 
requested $1.2 billion for the defense of Guam. How would these 
funds be used to build out Guam's integrated air and missile 
defense architecture?
    Mr. Hill. So we have initially the missile defense funds 
complement, as well, with the Army program. The Army is 
fielding programs, and General Gainey can comment in more 
detail on that, on the missile defense part. In particular, 
there is focus on--it is not the same, but using some of the 
launchers, the vertical launchers of that type, and you also 
have radar systems.
    I probably should refer to General Collins for more 
specifics on that program, though.
    Senator Fischer. So are you coordinating not just with the 
Army but with other partners, as well?
    Mr. Hill. The overall coordination for Guam, the 
acquisition, is actually an Army office that Congress wanted us 
to designate. We did. We designated the Army to lead that, 
rather than leading it from within an OSD office. Of course, 
that office is coordinating what Missile Defense Agency is 
doing and what Army, as well as what Navy is doing.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    Senator King. Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Well, I had some questions on 
Guam, too, so I am just going to kind of make a comment because 
we know the Chinese military has been so provocative in their 
plans to attack Guam. They have gone as far as releasing that 
commercial in September 2020, of their air force using their H-
6 bomber to attack the island and the U.S. Forces.
    So along with everyone else, I just want to make sure we 
are taking the adequate measures to deter our adversaries like 
China to secure Guam against these similar vulnerabilities that 
we have seen in the past. Particularly as we even go back to 
1941, with Pearl Harbor. So how are you positioning things?
    Mr. Hill. Senator Rosen, sometimes Chinese messaging is not 
very subtle, is it?
    Senator Rosen. No, it is not.
    Mr. Hill. What we did in the missile defense review in 
2022, was made a very clear statement that we wanted people to 
understand, yes, we can see China. You understand Guam is a 
very strategically important piece of the region. In the 
missile defense review we made a clear statement; it is also 
part of the Homeland of the United States.
    Senator Rosen. That is right.
    Mr. Hill. Those are American citizens on Guam. They have 
been since 1950. So want you to understand that you are not 
just talking about any rock out in the Pacific. That is the 
United States. So that is part of the deterrence message with 
respect to China.
    We have also always had the challenge that it has been 
within range of North Korean missiles, and that is why you have 
batteries there today. But as you are looking at that future 
larger question of the Indo-Pacific, if we are deterring war in 
the Indo-Pacific over time, this is where you are also trying 
to say the ability to project power from Guam is part of 
integrated deterrence. You will need to assure that power 
projection from Guam, because you have missile defense to 
defend our projection, as a part of the overall architecture 
that is meant to deter really at the conventional level.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, and that brings me to my last 
question, which is implementing the National Security 
Supplemental because, well, there is the Indo-Pacific and 
certainly there is Israel. So I am going to just really focus 
on Israel right now. We have $4 billion for Iron Dome, David's 
Sling, $1.2 billion for Iron Beam, which is Israel's directed 
energy missile defense system.
    General Collins, how are we working to get the funds from 
the supplemental out the door and spent, with interceptors 
ready to be sent over to Israel so that they can defend 
themselves, and could you update us on implementation, General?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Yes, Senator. Great question, 
and something that we have done a lot of homework ahead of time 
as the supplemental went through the process. We are going to 
follow the same process we followed a couple of years back when 
there was the billion-dollar Iron Dome supplemental in 2022, 
through a process called exchange of letters. Those letters are 
drafted. Those are now with the supplemental approval. Now we 
are taking those through final approval through all the 
government agencies that need to approve it. I do not have a 
timeline exactly yet of when that is expected to happen, but 
those are in work. We have had, from all the different 
agencies, State, Department of Defense, everybody, they have 
all been in and very cooperative, making sure we can get 
through this.
    Senator Rosen. We will look forward to seeing that. Thank 
you.
    Senator King. Final question. Why do we not have Iron Dome? 
We helped pay for it. We helped design it. Why do we not have 
an Iron Dome system throughout the country? It does not seem to 
be terribly expensive. It is proven to be fabulously effective. 
Why is that not part of our arsenal?
    Lieutenant General Collins. Sir, I think I will start just 
once before I hand over to General Gainey, sir. In our 
cooperative agreements with Israel we did not pay for the co-
development of Iron Dome. We co-produced Iron Dome. So we were 
actually not part of the design phase for Iron Dome. We were 
for David's Sling and Arrow weapon system as we go forward. I 
just wanted to clarify on the background there.
    General Gainey, as far as utility?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. Yes. Senator, thanks for that 
question. Actually, we did have Iron Dome for a period of time 
before we provided it back to Israel on loan for the recent 
conflict. So it was in one of our formations, 151 ADA, who 
actually trained with it, deployed it, and exercised it.
    Senator King. But can it be reproduced?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. It probably can, but we, in the 
Army, our strategy is not so much a system. As I highlighted, 
the integrated battle command system, which is a C-2 system 
that integrates several launchers with several sensors to 
provide the optimal solutions----
    Senator King. Is the system you are describing as effective 
as Iron Dome?
    Lieutenant General Gainey. It tested out just as effective. 
So as we implement it and field it in our formations we will 
field just launchers and not a complete system, which will 
provide the same capability because it will leverage the 
sensors that are already in those formations to provide a 
tailorable integrated solution for our Army.
    Senator King. Well, I want to thank you again. Today we 
have talked about a number of issues. I hope to reconvene this 
hearing in a classified setting, maybe several months from now, 
because I would like to discuss hypersonic defense. Because to 
talk about missile defense without realistically talking about 
hypersonic defense is not taking cognizance of the world that 
we live in.
    But again I want to thank you all very much. It has been 
very informative. Thank you for the work that you are doing on 
behalf of our country.
    The hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 5:56 p.m., the Subcommittee adjourned.]



DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 
               2025 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, MAY 21, 2024

                  United States Senate,    
          Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

               THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE SPACE ACTIVITIES

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in 
room SR-222, Russell Senate Office Building, Senator Angus King 
(Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
    Subcommittee Members Present: King, Warren, Rosen, Kelly, 
Fischer, Rounds, Cramer, and Tuberville.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS KING

    Senator King. The hearing of the Strategic Forces 
Subcommittee of the Committee on Armed Services is now in 
session. I want to thank our witnesses for joining us today, 
and I appreciate your service to the country.
    The purpose of our hearing today is to examine the fiscal 
year 2025 budget of the Space Force. Mr. Hill, I understand 
that you are testifying on Space Force policy issues in lieu of 
Dr. Plumb, who has recently left us. I will want to know the 
actions that your office has taken to help lower the 
classification levels of space programs so that the warfighter 
can use them more effectively. Many of these programs are so 
highly classified that few, if any, can use them, prohibiting 
information sharing in a time of conflict.
    Mr. Calvelli, you are responsible for the acquisition of 
space assets. In October 2022, you issued a memo on space 
acquisition tenets that outlined such commonsense objectives as 
don't launch satellites before the ground system to use the 
data is complete--pretty good advice; thank you--as well as 
efforts to hold the industry accountable for the systems that 
they build. I would like to know if you believe that those 
tenets are having an impact that you hoped that they would back 
in October 2022.
    General Guetlein, this is year four of the Space Force as a 
separate title 10 service. If you look at the wall, your flag 
is there, along with the other service flags. Now that you are 
a title 10 service I hope that you can share with us how you 
are training to defend our assets in space as well as to help 
the warfighter on the ground achieve their objectives if called 
upon.
    For fiscal year 2025, the Space Force is requesting $29.4 
billion, which is a $600 million decrease from the fiscal year 
2024 request of $30 billion. General Guetlein, it will be 
important to explain to the Committee in open session how this 
essentially flat budget, actually declining budget, is 
impacting your ability to train and equip our guardians to 
support the combatant commands.
    Again, I want to thank our witnesses for joining us, and 
after our short opening statements we will have rounds of 5-
minute questions of our witnesses.
    Senator Fischer.

                STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator King. Mr. Hill--are you 
correcting us?
    Senator King. Yes. He was correcting my pronunciation. 
GOOT-line. Sorry about that.
    General Guetlein. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator King. I am sure I am not the first person to ever 
mispronounce your name.
    General Guetlein. No, sir. I have grown up with that name 
and heard it every which way.
    Senator King. Thank you, sir.
    Senator Fischer. Secretary Calvelli, Mr. Hill, General 
Guetlein, thank you for being here today and for sharing your 
perspectives with this Subcommittee, and thank each of you for 
your service.
    As this Subcommittee knows, our capabilities in space 
provide our forces with unparalleled communications, targeting, 
and intelligence. Every other service relies on Space Force 
capabilities to close the kill chain. Our adversaries know 
this, and space is no longer a safe haven. It has not been for 
years, and it has taken the Department far too long to openly 
acknowledge this.
    The fact is we need to be investing more in both offensive 
and defensive space systems to counter our adversaries and 
safeguard our assets on orbit, and we need a space acquisition 
system that can do so effectively and quickly. I look forward 
to hearing about progress being made in space acquisition and 
what more can be done.
    However, we cannot maintain space dominance unless we 
provide the Space Force with the resources needed to do so. I 
was disappointed by the President's Budget Request, but I hope 
to work with my colleagues on this Subcommittee and on the 
Appropriations Committee to provide funding for additional 
space systems, including one on General Whiting's unfunded 
priorities list.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Mr. Hill, are you leading off?

   STATEMENT OF JOHN D. HILL, DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF 
  DEFENSE FOR SPACE AND MISSILE DEFENSE, DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE

    Mr. Hill. Thank you Chairman King and Ranking Member 
Fischer and distinguished Members of the Committee. Thank you 
for inviting us to testify on the Department's fiscal year 2025 
space budget.
    We are clearly in a time of rapid change in the space 
strategic environment, one which does not favor the slow or 
those resistant to change. China and Russia are rapidly 
fielding space and counter-space capabilities to hold the Joint 
Force at risk and to deny us the space-based services on which 
we rely. The scale and scope of the threats in space present 
significant risks to the American people, to our national 
interests, to allies, and partners.
    To meet these challenges, and working within the 
constraints of the Fiscal Responsibility Act, the President's 
Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Requests $33.7 billion for space. Some 
of the critical investments include $2.4 billion for National 
Security Space Launch; $1.5 billion for more resilient 
positioning, navigation, and timing; $4.2 billion for more 
resilient and protected satellite communications and the Space 
Development Agency's proliferated Low Earth Orbit (LEO) 
transport layer; $4.7 billion to develop new missile warning 
and missile tracking architectures; and $12.3 billion for a 
range capabilities to increase the resiliency of our existing 
architectures and protect our interests in space during 
competition, crisis, and conflict.
    In addition to our space investments, the Department has 
made significant progress over the last 2 years on four key 
space strategy and policy priorities, which I have detailed at 
length in my written testimony. These are space control, space 
cooperation, space classification, and commercial space 
integration.
    In short, we have obtained Presidential guidance to assure 
our space missions and to protect and defend the Joint Force 
from space-enabled attacks. We have significantly expanded our 
space cooperation with allies and partners, charting a path 
toward true combined operations in space that will strengthen 
our collective deterrence and defense. We have overhauled the 
Department's space classification policy to remove unnecessary 
barriers to information flow throughout the Joint Force and 
with our partners and with industry. We have released the 
first-ever Department of Defense Commercial Space Integration 
Strategy to harness the commercial sector's incredible 
innovation and to enhance our capability, capacity, resilience, 
and mission assurance.
    Going forward, the Department will continue to press on all 
four of these lines of effort. I believe the progress we have 
already made together will pay dividends for years to come.
    In closing, thank you again to the Committee for its 
partnership and for its tireless dedication to the Department 
and our servicemembers. I look forward to answering your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Hill follows:]

                 Prepared Statement by Mr. John D. Hill
                              introduction
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fisher, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee: Thank you for inviting me to testify before you on 
the Department's fiscal year 2025 space budget. I am honored to appear 
alongside Assistant Secretary Calvelli and General Guetlein. This 
written testimony closely follows the testimony of the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Space Policy before the House Armed Services 
Committee on April 30, 2024.
    The world is clearly in a time of rapid change in the space 
strategic environment, one which does not favor the slow or those 
resistant to change. As the United States evaluates the current 
security environment, both the People's Republic of China (PRC) and 
Russia are focused on rapidly fielding space and counterspace 
capabilities to hold our Joint Force at risk and deny us the space-
based services on which our Joint Force relies. The President's Space 
Budget Request of $33.7 billion for fiscal year 2025--including $25.2 
billion in investments for procurement and research, development, test, 
and evaluation--will advance a wide array of space capabilities 
critical for continued access to the space-based services we rely on 
and to ensure the space domain remains safe, stable, secure, and 
sustainable. These investments will help protect the Joint Force and 
ensure our ability to operate in a contested and congested environment.
                 fiscal year 2025 space budget request
    The President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request of $33.7 billion 
for space strikes a balance among current warfighting needs, 
modernizing our architecture, and developing new capabilities to 
outpace our potential adversaries. This request includes approximately 
$8.5 billion for military construction, military personnel, and funding 
for operations and maintenance. The budget request also identifies 
$25.2 billion in investments in resilient architectures, space command 
and control, integrated space fires and protection capabilities, 
modernized and agile electronic warfare architecture, enhanced 
battlespace awareness and space systems defense, and a range of 
capabilities designed to enhance our space control. Important 
investments for the Department include:

      $2.4 billion for National Security Space Launch, which 
will procure 11 launch vehicles to provide assured access to space and 
will modernize space launch ranges to support increased commercial use.

      $1.5 billion for more resilient positioning, navigation, 
and timing (PNT) and Global Positioning System (GPS) III Follow-On 
satellite support, including procurement of two GPS III Follow-On 
satellites and Next-Generation Operational Control System (OCX) 
development.

      $4.2 billion for a resilient protected tactical, 
wideband, and narrowband communications architecture and the Space 
Development Agency's proliferated low Earth orbit (pLEO) transport 
layer development.

      $4.7 billion to develop new proliferated Resilient 
Missile Warning / Missile Tracking architectures and Next-Generation 
Overhead Persistent Infrared (OPIR) space and ground architectures.

      $12.3 billion for a range of capabilities to increase 
resilience of existing architectures and to enable us to protect our 
space interests during competition, crisis, and conflict.

    While the depth and breadth of space threats continues to rapidly 
expand, we can only meet these challenges through strong and sustained 
investments in our space capabilities. The Department cannot operate 
effectively or efficiently under repeated continuing resolutions. I 
urge Congress to ensure the timely passage of appropriations for Fiscal 
Year 2025.
                          security environment
People's Republic of China (PRC)
    According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence's 
(ODNI) 2024 Annual Threat Assessment (ATA), China will probably have 
achieved ``world-class status in all but a few space technology areas'' 
by 2030. The PRC views the space domain, and the ability to deny space 
to PRC adversaries, as a critical component of modern warfare. The PRC 
has made significant investments in space systems to rapidly expand its 
ability to monitor forces across the globe, improve its long-range 
precision strike capabilities against U.S. and allied forces, and deter 
or deny outside regional intervention. To advance its concept of 
``informatized'' warfare, the PRC continues to develop and modernize 
space capabilities to conduct intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance (ISR) and to enhance communication, data relays, and PNT 
for its forces. The PRC also continues to rapidly develop counterspace 
capabilities to hold our on-orbit assets at risk. These capabilities 
include electronic warfare systems, direct-ascent anti-satellite 
missiles, directed-energy systems such as ground-based lasers, 
potential space-based kinetic weapons, and orbiting space robots. To 
support its increased investment in space, the PRC is modernizing its 
launch capabilities and capacity to reconstitute its space capabilities 
if needed.
Russia
    Russia is seeking to mitigate U.S. spacepower by developing a range 
of offensive counterspace capabilities, including electronic warfare, 
directed energy weapons, direct-ascent anti-satellite missile systems, 
and orbital systems with counterspace applications. Russia's 
investments in counterspace systems are designed to exploit what Russia 
views as United States overreliance on space for conducting military 
operations and to offset perceived United States Military advantages. 
As noted in the ODNI 2024 ATA, Russia will be more reliant on 
counterspace capabilities as it rebuilds its ground force from 
extensive losses in its war against Ukraine. Russian military doctrine 
embraces multi-domain attacks, using both reversible and irreversible 
capabilities, to target adversary satellites. Russia has conducted 
cyber intrusions against commercial satellite communication networks, 
and Russia has demonstrated through both public statements and actions 
that it views commercial satellites providing space-based services to 
Russia's adversaries as potential targets. Russia is also developing a 
concerning anti-satellite capability related to a new satellite 
carrying a nuclear device. The Department is extremely concerned that 
Russia may be considering the incorporation of nuclear weapons into its 
counterspace programs, based on information we deem credible. The 
United States has been aware of Russia's pursuit of this sort of 
capability dating back years, but only recently have we been able to 
make a more precise assessment of their progress. This capability could 
pose a threat to all satellites operated by countries and companies 
around the globe, as well as to the vital communications, scientific, 
meteorological, agricultural, commercial, and national security 
services humanity depends upon.
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)
    The DPRK is a persistent threat and source of continuing 
provocations to both the United States and our allies and partners. The 
DPRK continues to pursue its space program, conducting several 
reconnaissance satellite launch attempts over the last year in 
violation of multiple U.N. Security Council resolutions related to DPRK 
use of ballistic missile technology. The DPRK also maintains previously 
demonstrated non-kinetic counterspace capabilities, including systems 
for jamming communications and GPS signals.
Iran
    Iran is continuing to develop its space program. In February, Iran 
used Russian launch services to place communications and navigation 
satellites into orbit. Iran has also publicly acknowledged its 
capabilities to jam satellite communications and GPS signals. Its 
continued development of space launch vehicles (SLV), such as the 
Simorgh, would shorten the timeline to produce an intercontinental 
ballistic missile, if it decided to develop one, because the systems 
use similar technologies.
Growing Use of Commercial Space Services
    The advantages of space-based services are no longer exclusive to 
nations with indigenous space programs. Many space services are now 
commodities; for instance, satellite communication services and readily 
available, highly detailed satellite imagery can be procured by nascent 
space-faring nations and non-State actors alike. The Department greatly 
benefits from the innovation of our commercial space sector. We also 
recognize that our adversaries and competitors will seek to exploit 
satellite imagery, data, communications, and other commoditized 
services through illicit means and through commercial entities and 
avenues beyond U.S. regulatory regimes. In this respect, space-based 
services are no different from goods and services in sectors across the 
economy.
                 space strategy and policy investments
    The space domain is critical to U.S. national security and 
essential to all four of our National Defense Strategy's priorities. 
Our Joint Force relies on space-based services every day to conduct 
operations and likewise relies on space control capabilities to protect 
itself from space-enabled attack.
    Our competitors recognize the importance of space to the United 
States, and they continue to develop and field counterspace 
capabilities designed to deprive us of the advantages of space during 
conflict.
    Over the last 2 years, in partnership with Congress, the Department 
has made significant progress on four key space strategy and policy 
priorities: space control, space cooperation, space classification, and 
commercial space integration. To maintain our advantage in space, the 
Department will continue to press on these four priorities.
  Space Control
    In 2022, at the request of the President's national security 
advisor, the Department worked with the Intelligence Community to 
conduct the Space Strategic Review (SSR). This extensive effort 
baselined the entire national security space community on our overall 
space posture and where we need to head. Our analysis confirmed that 
China is the Department's pacing challenge in the space domain, and 
that space is in fact an operational domain where we must defend our 
national security interests and counter space-enabled threats. In June 
2023, the President approved the Space Security Guidance, affirming the 
SSR's recommendations.
    As we implement that guidance, our primary means of deterring in 
space will be through resilience. The Department continues to adopt 
resilient-by-design architectures through a range of approaches, 
including disaggregation, distribution, diversification, proliferation, 
and protection. One way we are increasing the resilience of our space 
capabilities is through the Space Development Agency's proliferated 
satellite architecture. In April 2023, the Department launched the 
first 10 satellites of the Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture, 
followed by an additional 13 satellites 5 months later. This was 
accomplished in less than 3 years from contract award to launch, an 
accelerated timeline made possible by leveraging commercial satellite 
bus lines and existing technologies. This architecture will enhance and 
support no-fail missions such as networked communications, missile 
warning, missile tracking, and missile defense.
    But resilience alone is insufficient to provide mission assurance 
or to deny adversaries' uncontested use of space in conflict. The Space 
Security Guidance made clear that the United States will defend space 
systems, and we will protect and defend our men and women in harm's way 
from space-enabled threats, just as we do for threats they face in and 
from land, sea, and air. This may require the Department to take action 
to ensure that our potential adversaries are unable to rely on their 
space systems to find and strike U.S. and allied forces. As part of the 
U.S. Government's integrated deterrence strategy, the United States may 
leverage counterspace options across all operational domains if 
necessary. In doing so, the Department will continue to be a leader in 
the responsible use of space to ensure that the domain remains safe, 
stable, secure, and sustainable.
    The Department continues to advance our Tactically Responsive Space 
capabilities to support integrated deterrence and warfighting needs. 
Last September, the Victus Nox mission successfully launched, with 24-
hour notice, showcasing our ability to rapidly respond to emerging 
situations as well as highlighting the benefits of leveraging 
commercial systems, capabilities, and services. A new tactically 
responsive space mission, Victus Haze, will exercise a realistic threat 
response scenario in an on-orbit space domain awareness demonstration. 
That launch is planned for late-2025.
    In developing and, if necessary, using our capabilities to protect 
the Joint Force, we will ensure that space is safe, stable, secure, and 
sustainable so that everyone may benefit from using space for peaceful 
purposes. We do not make that commitment lightly. The Department is 
leading by example and adheres to the Secretary's Tenets of Responsible 
Behavior in Space, which include limiting generation of long-lived 
debris, operating in a professional manner with due regard to others, 
and avoiding the creation of harmful interference.
    The Department also supports this Administration's work to advance 
national security norms in space through the United Nations (UN), 
including our commitment not to conduct destructive, direct-ascent 
anti-satellite missile testing. We also supported this year's United 
States-Japan co-drafted U.N. Security Council resolution, which would 
have reaffirmed the obligation not to place in orbit around the Earth 
any objects carrying nuclear weapons, or any other kinds of weapons of 
mass destruction. Concerningly, Russia vetoed that resolution.
    Our approach is in stark contrast to the behavior of our 
competitors. In the past 20 years, both Russia and China have 
irresponsibly and destructively conducted debris-generating direct-
ascent anti-satellite missile tests. And even while both countries 
continue to develop, test, and deploy weapons on-orbit, they 
simultaneously promote at the U.N. hollow, unverifiable treaties 
against the weaponization of space. At the same time Russia and the PRC 
refuse to join dozens of others in committing to an actual norm of 
responsible behavior: not to conduct destructive direct-ascent anti-
satellite missile tests. No one wins if space is overrun by debris. We 
continue to call on our competitors to demonstrate their commitment to 
preserving space as a safe, secure, stable, and sustainable domain.
  Space Cooperation
    The U.S. network of allies and partners is an asymmetric advantage 
that our competitors cannot match. Through space cooperation with our 
allies and partners, we broaden the number of systems collectively 
available for space operations, both on orbit and on the ground; 
strengthen resilience; expand our options for diplomatic and military 
responses; and complicate an adversary's decisionmaking. The Combined 
Space Operations (CSpO) Initiative, a group of defense representatives 
from likeminded nations, continues to be the premier forum for civilian 
and military national security space leadership to work toward shared 
goals. In December 2023, the CspO Initiative Principals Board welcomed 
representatives from Italy, Japan, and Norway as new members of the 
body, joining representatives from Australia, Canada, France, Germany, 
New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States.
    The Department is also investing in bilateral space cooperation 
around the globe. Last year, my team conducted the first bilateral 
space cooperation dialog with the Indian Ministry of Defense. We 
advanced discussions with our Japanese partners on finalizing our 
unique space domain awareness hosted payload partnership. United 
States-Norway collaboration enabled the integration of United States 
payloads on two Norwegian satellites to provide 24/7 protected 
satellite communications for forces operating in the Arctic. The 
Department has been, and will continue to be, committed to expanding 
space cooperation to enhance information sharing, set standards for 
interoperability, promote responsible behavior, and develop combined 
operations in space.
    But space cooperation is not only about working with allies and 
partners. It is also an important tool we use with our competitors to 
navigate challenging issues, avoid misunderstandings, and maintain 
stability. Since President Biden's summit with President Xi last year, 
my team has been part of bilateral exchanges with their Chinese 
counterparts on space security. Both the United States and China have a 
vested interest in a safe, secure, stable, and sustainable space 
domain, and both sides will benefit from continuing to talk. The United 
States and China conducted an initial consultation on bilateral arms 
control and nonproliferation in November 2023, which included a 
discussion of space security issues. Since then, the United States has 
sought a substantive response from the PRC on concrete ways to reduce 
strategic risk, including instituting bilateral pre-notifications of 
strategic ballistic missile test launches or adopting measures to 
deconflict activities in space. Unfortunately, the PRC has declined a 
follow-on meeting and has not provided a substantive response to our 
suggested options.
  Space Classification
    Our ability to work closely with allies and partners in the space 
domain, and our ability to use our space capabilities to protect and 
defend the Joint Force, requires the right information getting to the 
warfighter at operationally relevant speeds. But that information flow 
continues to be significantly hampered by the overclassification of 
space activities.
    In coordination with Defense and Intelligence Community 
stakeholders, my team spent more than a year completely rewriting a 20-
year-old legacy space classification policy, which reflected priorities 
of a different time and a different security environment. That legacy 
policy limited our ability to share information within the Department, 
limited our ability to cooperate with our allies and partners, and 
limited the ability of our industry partners to provide cost effective 
and timely solutions to difficult problems. Ultimately, it limited our 
ability to adequately plan and train for conflict as we must in this 
era.
    In December 2023, Deputy Secretary Hicks approved our entirely new 
space classification policy. Across the Pentagon, there is now a 
concerted effort to implement that policy and decrease the siloed 
nature of space activities. The Military Services are reviewing 
programs to reduce their classification to a level that benefits the 
warfighter. And we are leaning forward on how much we can share with 
our allies and partners, including industry, to allow more meaningful 
cooperation.
    Our goals are to enable better integration of space in joint and 
combined operations, ensure that classified capabilities are accounted 
for in war plans and exercises, and still maintain protections for 
information appropriate to today's needs. Over time, the new policy 
should dramatically improve information flow and reduce the time and 
money required to build future systems.
  Commercial Space Integration
    Just last month, in April 2024, the Department released its first-
ever Commercial Space Integration Strategy. Shortly after, the U.S. 
Space Force released a service-level strategy, nested under the broader 
DOD document. This marks a new effort to harness the remarkable 
innovation of the commercial space sector to enhance our resilience and 
strengthen integrated deterrence.
    To protect our men and women in uniform and ensure the space 
services they rely on will be available when needed, the Department has 
a responsibility to leverage all tools available. That includes 
commercial solutions.
    From more mature capabilities such as launch, space domain 
awareness, and satellite communications, to emerging capabilities such 
as on-orbit mobility and logistics, the commercial sector's ability to 
innovate, scale production, and rapidly refresh technology is opening 
the door to all kinds of possibilities.
    Our National Defense Strategy directed the Department to increase 
collaboration with the commercial space sector and leverage its 
technological advancements and entrepreneurial spirit. The Department's 
new Commercial Space Integration Strategy and the U.S. Space Force's 
companion Commercial Space Strategy follow through on that directive.
    The degree to which commercial space capabilities and services can 
benefit U.S. national security will ultimately be measured by how well 
the Department can actually integrate commercial solutions into the way 
we operate, not just in peacetime, but also in conflict. To accomplish 
this, as Secretary Austin wrote in the foreword to the strategy, the 
Department needs ``to eliminate the structural, procedural, and 
cultural barriers to overcoming legacy practices and preconceived 
notions of how the commercial sector can support national security.''
    Over the last year, my team engaged directly with space 
stakeholders across the Department, with interagency partners, and with 
commercial space entities of all sizes. We hosted roundtables, tabletop 
exercises, and informational sessions to better understand how 
commercial space solutions could support the Department, while also 
accounting for the commercial sector's interests. Informed by that body 
of work, our new strategy directs the Department to pursue four lines 
of effort for commercial space integration: (1) ensure access to 
commercial space solutions across the spectrum of conflict; (2) work to 
achieve integration prior to crisis; (3) establish the security 
conditions necessary to integrate commercial space solutions and help 
commercial providers reduce risk; and (4) support the development of 
new commercial space capabilities that have the potential to support 
the Joint Force.
    This is an important new effort that leverages American ingenuity 
to enhance the resilience of our national security space architecture 
and strengthen deterrence. The strategy is deliberately unclassified to 
be transparent about what we need to achieve, and to hold ourselves 
accountable for what we have committed. I am confident it will pay 
dividends for the Department for years to come.
                               conclusion
    Space capabilities are essential to overall military effectiveness 
and central to the Department's integrated deterrence strategy. As we 
contend with a dynamic security environment, the Department remains 
committed to making critical space investments to deter our competitors 
and prevail in conflict should deterrence fail.
    Thank you to the Subcommittee for your tireless dedication to the 
Department and our servicemembers, and for the opportunity to come and 
speak with you today. I look forward to answering your questions.

    Senator King. Mr. Calvelli. Secretary Calvelli.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE FRANK CALVELLI, ASSISTANT SECRETARY 
     OF THE AIR FORCE FOR SPACE ACQUISITION AND INTEGRATION

    Mr. Calvelli. Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and 
distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for 
inviting me to testify before you today.
    With the growing threats in space we must continue to 
transform our space architecture to be more proliferated and 
more resilient so that it can always be counted on during times 
of peace, crisis, or conflict. As the Service Acquisition 
Executive for Space, I am focused on two things: driving speed 
in our acquisitions and delivering programs on cost and 
schedule. I would like to highlight some of the progress we 
have made since I testified before this Committee last year.
    Since the spring of 2023, the Space Development Agency has 
delivered 27 satellites to orbit, nearly all of them in around 
3 years from contract award. This includes 8 new missile 
warning/missile tracking satellites and 19 data transport 
satellites. With these systems, we have been able to 
demonstrate the first-ever Link 16 network connection from 
space, a capability that will allow warfighters to extend 
beyond-line-of-sight messages.
    The Space Rapid Capabilities Office completed and is in the 
process of fielding the first 11 of 24 low-cost, transportable, 
terrestrial satellite communications jammers. These jammers 
went from contact award to fielding in about 18 months. 
Additionally, last June, Space RCO completed an on-orbit 
testing of its enhanced threat awareness payloads, and 
delivering those payloads to the Space Force programs to use.
    Meanwhile, the Space Systems Command (SSC) continues to 
make outstanding progress toward modernizing both our missile 
warning and military satellite communications architectures to 
be more resilient. Space Systems Command launched the first 
Weather System Follow-on Microwave satellite last month to 
support the pivot to a more resilient, disaggregated, hybrid 
weather architecture to meet warfighter requirements.
    Last September, Space Systems Command's Tactically 
Responsive Space mission, known as VICTUS NOX, demonstrating 
the ability to go from factory floor to on-orbit operations in 
less than 5 days.
    Since April 2023, there have been 7 national security space 
launches that delivered critical warfighting capabilities to 
orbit.
    SSC is also adding resilience through allied partnerships. 
For example, they delivered two enhanced polar system payloads, 
which will be hosted on Space Norway satellites that will be 
dual-launched this July, providing protective satellite 
communications in the Arctic region. Space Systems Command even 
broke ground last summer, in Australia on the Deep Space 
Advanced Radar Capability Site 1, and will award design 
contract for Site 2 this summer with the United Kingdom. This 
partnership with Australia and the U.K. is critical to our 
space demand awareness mission.
    We are also continuing to take advantage of strong space 
industrial base, including awarding contracts to many 
nontraditional space companies and implementing our recently 
published Commercial Space Strategy.
    Simultaneously, we are aggressively tackling challenging 
programs to get them over the finish line. We are focused on 
delivering the GPS Next-Gen Operational Control Segment, also 
known as OCX, and making significant progress toward getting 
the system ready to transition to operations in 2025.
    Another one of our challenging programs, ATLAS [Advanced 
Tracking and Launch Analysis System], has made significant 
progress. The program is on schedule to incrementally deliver 
space demand awareness command and control capabilities next 
year to enable finally the decommissioning of the legacy SPADOC 
[Space Defense Operations Center] system.
    We have also proven now that we can build small satellites 
quickly. However, as we begin to deliver the next tranche of 
SDA [Space Development Agency] satellites this fall, getting 
the military services to adopt and use these satellites will be 
a key success to our systems. Likewise, our ability to maintain 
a short access to space for our space capabilities remains 
paramount, and launch providers must be ready to scale to meet 
the increased demand.
    We are also working to move programs out of Special Access 
Program stovepipes, thanks to DOD's Space Classification Policy 
update this past December. This will improve our ability to 
integrate spaces for other domains and enable better sharing 
with our allies.
    Overall, we are doing a lot by simultaneously transforming 
our space architecture to make it more resilient, and at the 
same time investing in those protect-and-defend missions that 
we need to do to guarantee the advantage we get from space and 
protect the Joint Forces.
    As we continue to drive speed into our acquisitions, our 
job and our top priority as acquisition professionals is 
centered around program execution. Simply defined, it means 
delivering programs on cost, on schedule, that work. We are 
taking a special interest in making sure that up front, when we 
develop our action strategies and RFP documents, or request for 
proposal documents, that they are realistic and executable, 
that we implement source selection strategies that lead us to 
awarding contracts with achievable cost and schedule baselines, 
and to a contractor with the right expertise, skills, and staff 
to do the job, and then once under contract, relentlessly 
managing the program based on the daily basis to ensure we 
deliver on cost and on schedule. Given the threats and 
increased capabilities of our competitors, it is critical that 
we deliver programs on cost and schedule, and this is a key 
focus area for me.
    Thank you to the Subcommittee for all your support. I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Calvelli follows:]

             Prepared Statement by Honorable Frank Calvelli
                                overview
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for inviting me to testify before you 
today.
    We continue to face an unprecedented strategic competitor in China, 
and our space environment continues to become more contested, 
congested, and competitive. We have seen exponential growth of in-space 
activity, including counterspace threats, and our adversaries would 
seek to deny us the advantage we get from space during a potential 
conflict.
    To counter these threats, we continue to drive resiliency and 
transform our space architecture through proliferation, orbit 
diversification, disaggregation, utilization of commercial 
capabilities, cyber hardening, and collaboration with Allies and 
partners. Furthermore, my top initiative remains to drive speed into 
our space acquisitions and deliver programs on cost and schedule. The 
threat environment demands we deliver capabilities fast enough to 
detect threatening behavior in space, deny adversary advantage, deter 
aggressive actions, and, if necessary, defeat adversaries during a 
conflict.
    Today I want to talk to you about how we are transforming the space 
architecture, the near-term capabilities we are delivering, the 
remaining challenges, and how I am managing the space acquisition 
enterprise to drive change and get after the threat with speed.
             continuing to transform the space architecture
    The Space Force continues to pivot to a proliferated and resilient 
missile warning and missile tracking (MW/MT) architecture in low Earth 
orbit and medium Earth orbit (MEO) that focuses on tracking advanced 
threats by integrating critical missile tracking capabilities that 
previously did not exist. As we develop and deliver this new 
capability, we are also developing the Next Generation Overhead 
Persistent Infrared (OPIR) program, comprised of the Next Generation 
OPIR Geosynchronous (Next Gen GEO) and Next Gen OPIR Polar missile 
warning systems, as a bridge to enable the eventual transition to the 
resilient MW/MT architecture.
    We continue to transform our military satellite communications 
(SATCOM) by disaggregating our strategic and tactical satellite 
architectures and leveraging new proliferated LEO capabilities. This 
approach adds resiliency and ensures our systems can operate through 
contested and degraded environments.
    In collaboration with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), we 
are developing a ground moving target indicator (GMTI) solution to meet 
Combatant Command requirements. This capability will provide actionable 
information on adversary surface targets that the Space Force will 
deliver to the Joint Force. We selected this partnership with the NRO 
because their concept allows us to go faster, with less technical risk, 
and at lower cost. Again, acquisition speed is a top factor in our 
decisionmaking, and the partnership with the NRO allows us to develop 
space-based GMTI faster. Milestone B for this program will take place 
later this year.
    Maintaining constant awareness of the battlespace, supplemented by 
the capability to accurately produce indications and warnings for 
malign behavior, is critical to the Space Force avoiding operational 
surprise. To that end, our space domain awareness architecture 
leverages partnerships and data across the national security space 
enterprise and commercial sources to ensure we have a resilient, 
integrated, and diverse sensor architecture. We continue to invest in 
SILENTBARKER and the Deep Space Advanced Radar Capability (DARC).
    The DARC program exemplifies international collaboration within the 
trilateral partnership agreement between the United States, the United 
Kingdom, and Australia, known as AUKUS. Earlier this year, we broke 
ground on DARC Site 1 at Harold E. Holt Naval Station, Australia.
    DARC extends the Space Force's umbrella of awareness in the space 
domain by establishing a clear picture of the operating environment and 
denying adversaries the ability to strike U.S. assets without warning. 
This summer, the DARC Site 2 design contract will be awarded for the 
planned United Kingdom location.
    While awareness of the battlespace is critical, the ability to deny 
or defeat threats in, from, and to space is paramount. We are investing 
in classified programs that include capabilities to counter an 
adversary from using space to attack the U.S. Homeland or the Joint 
Force. These investments, which cannot be discussed in detail in an 
unclassified setting, are fundamental to ensuring space superiority.
    Maintaining assured access to space is vital to delivering 
capabilities to orbit when needed. With the growing launch demand and 
number of emerging launch providers, we designed the National Security 
Space Launch (NSSL) Phase 3 strategy to pursue, for the first time, a 
dual-lane hybrid contracting approach to maximize access to commercial 
launch partners.
    Lane 1 in NSSL Phase 3 allows an unlimited number of launch service 
providers to compete for our less complex missions that have higher 
risk tolerance. Lane 1 enables us to tap into new technologies as 
emerging providers and capabilities are ready. Lane 2 maintains our 
full mission assurance posture to support our toughest missions. While 
Lane 2 closely mirrors the current procurement approach in NSSL Phase 
2, we added a third launch provider to promote the necessary resiliency 
in launching our most challenging and critical payloads.
                         delivering capability
    In February 2024, the Space Force's Space Development Agency (SDA), 
in partnership with the Missile Defense Agency (MDA), successfully 
launched the final four Tranche 0 Tracking Layer satellites of the 
Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture (PWSA) together with MDA's 
two Hypersonic and Ballistic Tracking Space Sensor satellites. This 
collaboration will enable simultaneous testing of SDA's MW/MT sensors 
with MDA's fire control sensors on the same exercise targets, from the 
same orbit, and deliver the quality data required to analyze and defeat 
advanced missile threats. Furthermore, this launch marked the final 
delivery of SDA's Tranche 0 constellation, culminating 27 total 
satellites delivered to orbit in nearly 3 years from contract award.
    Later this year, SDA will start delivering roughly 160 Tranche 1 
satellites over 10 launches in 11 months. SDA's vendors are currently 
building all Tranche 1 satellites and the accompanying ground 
infrastructure, including two new network operations centers that are 
on track for delivery later this year.
    Not only are we demonstrating our ability to develop and 
proliferate with speed, but we are also introducing non-traditional 
prime vendors in Tranche 2. Incorporating new industry partners 
enhances our resiliency and increases our advantage against strategic 
competitors. These new vendors also demonstrate an encouraging 
industrial base response to our spiral development model of competing 
new tranches every 2 years.
    We also kicked off this year with the successful first 
certification flight of United Launch Alliance's (ULA) Vulcan Centaur 
launch vehicle. This marks an important milestone on our path toward 
ending United States reliance on the Russian-made RD-180 engines that 
are used on Atlas V launch vehicles. The last Department of Defense 
(DOD) Atlas V launch is scheduled for this fall.
    Fiscal year 2024 marked the final order year of NSSL Phase 2 and 
supports launches through 2027. We will award our NSSL Phase 3 
contracts this year for launch service orders beginning in fiscal year 
2025.
    This April, Space Systems Command launched the first Weather System 
Follow-on Microwave (WSF-M) satellite. WSF-M is designed to replace the 
critical microwave capabilities of our legacy Defense Meteorological 
Satellite Program satellites which will reach end of life in 2026. WSF-
M is equipped with a microwave imager to collect weather data such as 
ocean surface vector winds and tropical cyclone intensity, as well as 
snow depth, soil moisture, and sea ice characterization. This launch 
marks a critical step toward improving the collection of weather data 
in support of warfighter requirements.
    In the same month, the Evolved Strategic SATCOM (ESS) program 
released its request for proposals (RFP) for the constellation's 
initial four satellites. ESS is the future backbone for Joint All-
Domain Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications, and will replace 
Advanced Extremely High Frequency system services to provide global, 
integrated, survivable, resilient, and dynamic ground and satellite 
communications for assured strategic endurance. Contract award is 
targeted in fiscal year 2025 to achieve Initial Operational Capability 
(IOC) by 2032.
    We continue our commitment to provide highly accurate timing, 
three-dimensional positioning, and navigation information, in any 
weather, to an unlimited number of military and civilian users, 
anywhere on or above the surface of the Earth. In fiscal year 2025, we 
are procuring two additional Global Positioning System (GPS) IIIF 
vehicles. Currently, there are 31 GPS satellites in operation, and 
another four in storage. Simultaneously, we are researching additional 
resilient positioning, navigation, and timing options, which may become 
a transformational effort in the future.
    Another critical capability launching this year is Geosynchronous 
Space Situational Awareness Program (GSSAP). GSSAP remains our hallmark 
program for space domain awareness. It is imperative we get this 
capability on orbit to support our warfighters by the end of the year.
    Additionally, the Ground-Based Optical Sensor System program is on 
track to deliver upgrades to the Ground-Based Electro-Optical Deep 
Space Surveillance system at the White Sands Missile Range and Maui 
sites in fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 2026, respectively. These 
upgrades, which include replacement of legacy optics, camera hardware, 
and software, are projected to allow the sites to make valuable space 
domain awareness contributions for the next 20 years, and will enable 
increased sensitivity and improved search rate, accuracy, and 
throughput.
    To ensure our warfighters can count on space capabilities 
throughout the spectrum of conflict, we must maintain robust 
cybersecurity and cyber defense. As an example of cyber defense, we 
recently awarded a new task order for Defensive Cyber Operations--
Space, consolidating and centralizing the current contracting vehicles 
to provide improved terms and cost control, and enhancing our 
cybersecurity posture and resilience.
                               challenges
    Transforming the space architecture to combat the threat requires 
us to deliver warfighter capabilities on cost and schedule. Some 
challenging legacy programs remain, but we are aggressively managing 
these programs to ensure they deliver.
    The three long-standing troubled programs, GPS Next Generation 
Operational Control Segment (OCX), Advanced Tracking and Launch 
Analysis System (ATLAS), and Military GPS User Equipment Increment 1 
(MGUE Inc 1), need to get over the finish line.
    OCX continues to be a challenging program. OCX is a prime example 
of the difficulty in tackling complex satellite command and control 
(C2) systems and extremely large software development all at once, a 
practice I am working to ensure is not repeated in the future. We are 
anticipating government acceptance of OCX later this year and 
completing the final Acquisition Program Baseline (APB) milestone of 
Ready to Transition to Operations in spring 2025. We are getting close 
to completing the baseline effort and need Congress' support with 
stable funding to ensure OCX can deliver.
    ATLAS has made significant progress since we broke the program into 
more manageable deliverables. The program is now on schedule to deliver 
capability by September 2025 that, when coupled with existing Space 
Force C2 systems, will provide sufficient capability to enable the 
decommissioning of the legacy Space Defense Operations Center system.
    MGUE Inc 1 is improving. Since the January 2021 re-baseline, MGUE 
Inc 1 has successfully completed several major milestones in line with 
the APB. The final milestone for the ground system circuit card was 
completed in March 2021, and that card is in production. The aviation/
maritime card completed Manufacturing Readiness Assessment in May 2023, 
enabling it to enter Low-Rate Initial Production. MGUE Inc 1 remains on 
track to meet its two remaining APB milestones: Program Executive 
Officer (PEO) Certification for the U.S. Navy Arleigh Burke-class 
Destroyer and the U.S. Air Force B-2 Bomber. The program will work 
through follow-on developmental and operational testing in fiscal year 
2025, which is expected to result in formal delivery and close-out of 
MGUE Inc 1.
    In addition to these legacy troubled programs, another program I am 
watching closely is Next Gen GEO. The Next Gen GEO program must deliver 
the primary mission payload this spring and continue to make progress 
and stay on schedule for Vehicle 1. The payload is in test, but over a 
year late. We cannot afford delays, and I am engaging with this program 
frequently to mitigate further slips.
    Furthermore, launch is foundational to our ability to deliver 
critical capabilities to orbit, and we need the commercial launch 
industry ready to meet the growing demand. Over the last 5 years, ULA 
averaged only six to seven launches per year, and now, with the growth 
in demand, needs to significantly increase its cadence to around twice 
a month. ULA's ability to ramp up starts with the successful completion 
of the second Vulcan certification flight. Failure to complete the 
second certification flight will delay the launch of critical national 
security payloads this year, including GPS III-7, USSF-106, and USSF-
87. In parallel, Blue Origin needs to scale its production of BE-4 
engines. We are keeping an eye on whether these two companies can scale 
to meet our needs.
    We have proven we can build small satellites quickly. As we start 
to deliver PWSA operational ground and 126 Tranche 1 Transport Layer 
satellites this fall, adoption and use of Tranche 1 next year will be 
key.
    Finally, thanks to the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Space 
Policy's efforts in rewriting DOD's Space Classification Policy in 
December 2023, we are working on recommendations for the Deputy 
Secretary of Defense to move large amounts of critical program 
information out of Special Access Program stovepipes. Reducing 
classification barriers will significantly improve our ability to 
integrate space with other domains and enable better sharing with our 
Allies and partners.
               managing the space acquisition enterprise
    I have issued three sets of guidance to the space acquisition 
workforce since my confirmation in April 2022 that define our space 
acquisition tenets, the formula for going fast in space acquisition, 
and a list of essential program management skills. This guidance is key 
to improving the space acquisition enterprise.
    In October 2022, I established strategic acquisition guidance 
outlining nine Space Acquisition Tenets (Appendix A) that formed the 
basis of a new direction to transform our space acquisition enterprise. 
These nine tenets strike at the core issues that slow us down. To 
emphasize how the tenets enable speed, last year I shared a simple 
formula for going fast in space acquisition (Appendix B), which now 
serves as the cornerstone of our approach to build resilient 
architectures faster. The tenets and formula provide the vision for how 
our space acquisition workforce will deliver space capabilities to 
outpace the threats. Aligned with this vision, our space acquisition 
workforce is adopting a culture of speed and must hone the essential 
program management skills outlined in the guidance I issued in December 
2023 (Appendix C) to be successful.
    When the tenets, formula, and essential skills are applied, our 
space acquisition enterprise will transform the space architecture 
while continuing to provide crucial capabilities for our Nation. This 
approach is all about speed in space acquisitions and can be applied to 
all systems in all orbits to get capabilities to the warfighter on 
operationally relevant timelines.
    While designed to focus on speed, the formula yields additional 
benefits, including enhanced workforce satisfaction and faster 
technology refresh. First, the workforce can participate in an entire 
acquisition from start to launch in just 3 years. With a traditional 7-
to 10-year large development effort, we see significant personnel 
turnover during that timeframe. Typically, the government would have at 
least three different program managers over the course of a program--
generally one program manager gets the program started, the next one 
gets the program through Critical Design Review, and the next one may 
get to IOC. By doing shorter development cycles, a single program 
manager and their team will be able to see the entire acquisition 
through and will be accountable for the entire end-to-end effort. 
Therefore, the team will have more ownership, which has positive 
implications for both the government and industry workforces.
    Second, we have the opportunity for significantly faster technology 
refresh. Using the formula, technology refresh occurs every 3 years. 
Compare that with larger traditional space acquisitions where 
technology insertion and refresh are measured in 10, 15, or even more 
years depending on the program. The formula inherently drives faster 
modernization of our space assets, by allowing the on-ramp of new 
technologies every 3 years.
    So now that we have the tools, we need to execute. Our job and our 
top priority as acquisition professionals is centered around execution. 
Simply defined, this means we must deliver programs on cost and 
schedule that work.
    My focus is on ensuring that our acquisition strategy and RFP 
documents are realistic and executable. This means that our source 
selection plans must lead to awarding executable contracts. These are 
contracts with realistic and achievable cost and schedule baselines, 
performed by contractors with the right expertise, skills, and staff to 
do the job. Once under contract, we must proactively manage program 
baselines to deliver systems that work on cost and schedule.
    Delivering on schedule is important because we must be ready to 
secure U.S. interests in, from, and to space, which includes supporting 
the Joint Force. Given the threats and increased capabilities of our 
competitors, and with our relatively flat funding, delivering on cost 
is more critical than ever. Every time we overrun a program, we 
basically rob our future efforts to modernize or do anything new, which 
does not allow us to stay ahead of threats to U.S. interests. We also 
stifle future innovation by limiting investment dollars to cover 
schedule slips and cost overruns. We simply cannot afford to do this 
anymore.
    To maintain focus on execution, I remain committed to a battle 
rhythm of proactive, frequent engagement and periodic strategic reviews 
of our programs with my portfolio managers and PEOs. I continue to 
conduct status reviews with each of my PEOs every 2 weeks to discuss 
the status of programs within their purview. I also hold Quarterly 
Program Reviews for a deeper program analysis. During these quarterly 
reviews, the government program managers present the technical, 
schedule, cost, and staffing status, open risks and issues, upcoming 
activities, and an overall assessment of program health. Troubled 
programs continue to receive deliberate attention and targeted 
intervention to return them to a healthy status. Holistically, these 
reviews enable my workforce and me to ensure all our programs remain 
focused on delivering rapid, resilient, and integrated capabilities to 
our warfighters, on cost and on schedule.
    I also continue to use the Space Acquisition Council (SAC) as a 
mechanism for fostering integration. Thanks to Congress, the SAC 
continues to be an integration forum among key leaders in the national 
security space community. Monthly meetings have covered a wide range of 
key topics with all major space stakeholders. The SAC remains a 
valuable tool to ensure coordination and synchronization of the 
national security space enterprise.
                               conclusion
    We continue to transform the space architecture to be more 
resilient and provide additional capabilities for the Joint Force. Our 
focus is on speed in our acquisitions and delivering programs on cost 
and schedule.
    Thank you to the Subcommittee for all your support to the Space 
Force and space acquisition. I look forward to your questions.

    Senator King. General Guetlein.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL MICHAEL A. GUETLEIN, USSF, VICE CHIEF OF 
                        SPACE OPERATIONS

    General Guetlein. Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, 
and distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for 
your continued support and for the opportunity to testify on 
the Space Force's posture for fiscal year 2025.
    On behalf of the Secretary of the Air Force, Hon. Frank 
Kendall, and the Chief of Space Operations, General B. Chance 
Saltzman, I am honored to share that we are wholly dedicated to 
forging a new service, purpose built for great power 
competition. Space has never been more critical to the security 
of our Nation, and the success or failure of the Joint Force 
depends heavily on the capabilities that we present.
    Repeated actions by both the Russian Federation and the 
People's Republic of China underscore the urgency for action. 
Although we still may control the space over our competitors, 
they are working hard to close the gap and assert their 
dominance in space. We cannot afford to let this happen.
    Space is the foundation for the Joint Force, and it is 
fundamental to our peaceful way of life. GPS [Global 
Positioning System] alone is an essential part of every aspect 
of our daily lives, from our cellphones to our banking systems, 
and even to our ability to get crops out of the field and 
groceries to the shelves. We cannot let our near peer 
competitors overtake us or we will lose what we hold dear. If 
we fail to keep pace and ultimately surrender our lead in 
space, every space-enabled benefit we enjoy today will be at 
risk, and the world will become a far more dangerous place.
    We must maintain control of the domain in order to defend 
the United States and to protect the Joint Force from space-
enabled attack. With only 3 percent of the DOD's budget, the 
Space Force offers a tremendous value proposition to the 
Nation. Every dollar invested in space brings asymmetric 
returns. But that also means that every dollar cut creates 
asymmetric risk.
    Make no mistake. If we are to deter, and if necessary, 
defeat aggression in space and across the globe, we must 
continue to invest in the United States Space Force. Against a 
near peer adversary, control of space is the linchpin. Without 
it we cannot deter conflict, without it we cannot provide vital 
effects, without it we cannot protect the Joint Force, and 
without it, we cannot win.
    The Space Force's theory of success includes three parts: 
avoid operational surprise, deny first mover advantage, and 
conduct responsible operations in space. The Space Force's 
budget request aligns with these priorities and is designed to 
support the National Defense Strategy by building training and 
equipping the Forces the Nation needs to preserve freedom of 
action in space while deterring and denying adversarial 
objectives.
    Avoiding operational surprise requires us to maintain an 
accurate understanding of the space domain at all times. 8.3 
percent of our budget is dedicated to the same. Operating 
across disaggregated sensor frameworks, the Space Force 
provides the maximum information possible to decisionmakers 
from the tactical to the strategic level.
    Denying first mover advantage demands that we make an 
unwarranted attack against the United States impractical and 
self-defeating, 43.4 percent of our budget is devoted to this 
objective, investing in resiliency from missile warning and 
tracking, satellite communications, and position navigation and 
timing.
    Finally, responsible operations in space describes a 
mechanism by which the Space Force contests and controls the 
space domain, 24.7 percent of the fiscal year 2025 Space Force 
budget is dedicated to this effort. Within the constraints of 
the Fiscal Responsibility Act, the fiscal year 2025 Space Force 
budget reflects hard choices, and as a result, slows the pace 
of transformation and modernization. Addressing these 
challenges depends on guardians that are trained and ready to 
meet the high-tech demands of space operations. For that reason 
I would like to personally thank this Committee for its support 
of the Space Force Personnel Management Act. This will be a 
major force multiplier in the Space Force's efforts to 
modernize the way we recruit, build, and retain talent.
    Thank you for the opportunity to discuss the Space Force's 
fiscal year 2025 budget and posture. In the face of 
accelerating threats, the guardians have clearly demonstrated 
the capability, the resolve, and the expertise necessary to 
face the challenges posed by our near peer competitors, but 
there is more to do. The support of this Committee enables our 
guardians to continue to preserve and expand our strategic 
advantage and outperform any pacing challenge.
    I look forward to working with you as we defeat tomorrow's 
challenges together, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Guetlein follows:]

           Prepared Statement by General Michael A. Guetlein
                              introduction
    Chair Hirono; Ranking Member Sullivan; distinguished Members of the 
Subcommittee; thank you for the opportunity to testify before this 
body, and the American public, on the military readiness of the Space 
Force and our continued efforts to sustain such readiness into the 
future. On behalf of the Secretary of the Air Force, Hon. Frank 
Kendall, and the Chief of Space Operations (CSO), General B. Chance 
Saltzman, I am honored to share the Space Force's readiness vision for 
fiscal year 2025.
    Space superiority is the foundation of the Joint Force, and we 
cannot achieve joint success without it. The demand for space forces 
outpaces resources by a significant margin. If we want to remain on 
top, the Nation must continue to invest in the United States Space 
Force and develop the capabilities to deter and if necessary, defeat 
aggression in space and around the globe. The Space Force must be 
resourced to protect our critical space-based services from adversary 
attacks, and to deny an adversary the hostile use of its space 
capabilities against our personnel.
    Since its creation, the Space Force has pushed the boundaries of 
what it means to be a Military Service. Our guardians demonstrate the 
unique capability, resolve, and experience necessary to effectively 
secure and control the space domain in support of our Nation's defense. 
Even so, our competitors continue to mature their counterspace 
capabilities, both publicly and covertly, which is why the Space Force 
must remain vigilant to retain its readiness and capability advantages.
    Recent actions by both the Russian Federation and the People's 
Republic of China, including space-related cyber-attacks, direct ascent 
anti-satellite demonstrations, and counterspace weapons development, 
demonstrate they do not seek peaceful access to space; but rather 
intend to conduct aggressive actions that could deny the United States 
the free use and benefits of space. Reports concerning specific 
counterspace capabilities exhibit the extent these threats pose to our 
Service members, the American public, and our very way of life. The 
United States Space Force will continue to significantly contribute to 
our Nation's integrated deterrence and resolve to maintain the most 
effective space forces in the world.
    As Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman recently unveiled in 
February 2024, the Department of the Air Force (DAF) is undergoing a 
Department-wide effort to optimize the way both the Air Force and Space 
Force organize, train, and equip to meet the PRC pacing challenge. In 
the face of rising threats and dangerous shifts in the strategic 
environment, the DAF designed this effort to enhance our ability to 
effectively deter our competitors, and ultimately, prevail in conflict 
should such deterrence fail. We have seen these threats emerge rapidly, 
particularly in space as it has transformed from a benign environment 
to a contested domain. To address these challenges, the Space Force 
will reoptimize its readiness to meet the pacing challenge. At the 
direction of Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman, the Space Force 
is:

      Establishing Space Futures Command as a fourth Field 
Command to develop and validate concepts, conduct experimentation and 
wargames, and perform mission area design;

      Formalizing Space Force Combat Squadrons as our Units of 
Action and accelerating implementation of the Space Force Generation 
model (SPAFORGEN);

      Delivering an Operational Test and Training 
Infrastructure (OTTI) to provide our guardians with the most realistic, 
dynamic, and effective training solutions available anywhere.

      Implementing readiness standards that reflect operations 
under contested conditions rather than those of a permissive 
environment;

      Conducting a series of nested and synchronized exercises 
in the Space Force that increase inscope and complexity, fit within a 
broader DAF-level framework, and progress through a Service-level, 
data-driven process to measure readiness;

      Activating service components within Combatant Commands, 
providing commanders with space integration and synchronization assets 
they need to conduct all domain operations; and

      Redesigning career paths to produce guardians that meet 
our high-tech operational demands.

    Meeting the pacing challenge, while also managing acute and 
persistent threats, requires the Space Force to retain both agility and 
expertise; one without the other risks unacceptable tradeoffs to our 
strategic interests, the safety of our people and assets, and continued 
peaceful access to space. Underpinning our success in, from, and to the 
space domain is the Space Force's ability to field combat-ready forces 
and ensure our guardians have the tools, training, and equipment 
required to prevail in a modern, all-domain fight. Continuing to fund 
Space Force readiness will remain essential to our Nation's defense now 
and in the future. The President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request 
appropriately balances our readiness requirements to deter aggression 
and be prepared to prevail in conflict when necessary.
           evolving space force readiness in fiscal year 2025
Future Force Design
    Since its inception, the Space Force has taken steps to improve its 
force design structure and ``right-size'' its acquisition, talent 
management, and organizational strategies to best serve its organize, 
train, and equip mission set. Through the Space Warfighting Analysis 
Center (SWAC), we initiated a methodical process to produce the most 
ideal set of future capabilities required for existing and emerging 
operational needs, threats, and costs.
    Recognizing the need to effectively implement future force designs, 
we are prioritizing efforts to be forward-looking and maintain long-
term readiness advantages in both capability and posture. As such, the 
CSO [Chief of Space Operations] ordered the establishment of a Space 
Futures Command aimed at providing better-defined structure, processes, 
and integration of our force design efforts. This new Field Command 
will develop and validate concepts, conduct experimentation and 
wargames, and perform mission area design.
    Joint operations require extensive inclusion of space capabilities. 
A Space Futures Command will ensure the Space Force force design is 
comprehensive with technically sound capabilities, innovative doctrinal 
approaches to force employment, force structures organized for 
resilience and effectiveness, and training practices designed to retain 
competitive advantages in the face of the pacing challenge. We must 
have greater awareness of the materiel and assets our force requires, 
and the corresponding facilities and personnel needed to accomplish our 
missions. We must incorporate more proactive and applicable leadership 
and educational opportunities for our service members, and we must 
strengthen our people and facilities for the challenges ahead. This is 
a Department of Defense (DOD)-wide effort, but as the newest service, 
the Space Force has both the most ground to cover and the most agility 
to deliver operationally effective warfighting capabilities.
    Effective force design analysis and recommendations are essential 
to delivering well-equipped, combat ready space forces, and the Space 
Force will leverage Space Futures Command to ensure high-fidelity 
modeling and analysis that balances fulfilling current operational 
requirements while transitioning to the force we need today.
Commercial Space Strategy
    The pacing challenge requires that the United States, and the Space 
Force in particular, leverage the full breadth and depth of our 
commercial sector. The United States retains a significant advantage in 
commercial activities, which offer us key opportunities to bolster our 
space capabilities and sustain our readiness posture, while 
simultaneously stimulating the space economy and enabling competition, 
rapid innovation, and cost-effectiveness. Our commercial partners 
afford us the ability to exploit what we have, buy what we can, and 
build only what we must; particularly as space has become an 
increasingly competitive and contested domain.
    The commercial sector of the United States space enterprise 
provides us with an immense body of knowledge and innovative capability 
from which to draw upon. We have the most robust space enterprise in 
the world, and the partnerships the Space Force has fostered with 
private industry, academia, and allied nations empower us to act faster 
and with greater effect than we could alone. This is a critical line of 
effort for the Space Force, not only because of our fiscal 
responsibility to the American people, but also for the vast knowledge 
base we can draw upon to succeed in our mission. Commercial products 
that can be utilized to meet military needs will provide for a more 
cost-effective and timely acquisition, which supports the DOD and 
industry. Further, these partnerships free the DOD to prioritize 
dedicated products when capability gaps are identified, saving time, 
resources, and testing for those needs that are not commercially 
available or are inherently governmental missions.
    Consequently, the Space Force developed a Commercial Space Strategy 
aligned with a broader DOD Commercial Space Integration Strategy, 
intended to further harness our strategic advantages in the United 
States commercial sector. This strategy guides our approach in building 
out a hybrid architecture designed to enhance resiliency and capacity 
in times of need. The Space Force's Commercial Space Strategy informs 
methods of integrating critical goods, services, and other activities 
already validated and tested by the private sector; improving access to 
existing and emerging technologies; and meeting our near-, mid-, and 
long-term architecture goals.
    The Space Force Commercial Space Strategy is a new way of 
approaching industry partnerships, designed to propel our acquisition 
and operational practices and thinking into the future. As the 
technology available to and from private industry has advanced, the 
armed services must adjust our approach. This adjustment must allow the 
flexibility to onboard innovative and game-changing technologies; this 
is especially true of space systems. Integrating the products and 
capabilities found throughout American companies and the research and 
development community will streamline space operations, fortify our 
hybrid architecture, and ensure we take a proactive posture against 
threats.
    By utilizing commercial capabilities and systems along with 
informed requirements, the Space Force will undoubtably realize an even 
greater competitive advantage.
International Partnerships
    With the increasing inclusion of allied nations in our space 
activities, we develop stronger coalitions, able to conduct coordinated 
operations in the space domain. This inclusion will allow us to deliver 
more resilient capabilities supporting space operations across the 
conflict continuum. We continue to reduce information sharing and 
classification barriers with allies to enable combined understanding of 
the threats, and the needed capabilities to prevail in a conflict, 
should the need arise.
    As our service refines mechanisms to share understanding of the 
domain, and continues to develop interoperable capabilities through 
traditional acquisition, we also look to work with allies and partners 
to collectively harness the power of the international commercial space 
sector. Our allies have great interest in working with the Space Force 
to more effectively utilize commercial innovation and capabilities in a 
coordinated manner. They see the same benefit in the commercial space 
sector, and we hope to grow opportunities to leverage their innovation 
to support combined operations with increasingly diverse nations.
Space Force Generation
    As an independent military service, the Space Force maintains its 
own readiness standards, reporting, and development through the 
SPAFORGEN model. This model affords us the ability to ensure a combat-
ready force for all guardians, whether Employed-in-Place or otherwise. 
SPAFORGEN ensures that the Space Force can effectively present combat 
ready space forces to Combatant Commanders and provides Guardians with 
the time and resources necessary to develop and train to remain agile 
and effective.
    The Space Force measures its readiness based upon the necessary 
tools, training, and manpower needed to achieve our strategic and 
tactical requirements. Ultimately, the Space Force must ensure that all 
our Guardians can effectively rise to the challenge through rigorous 
development and capability deployment. The Space Force is redefining 
our readiness reporting to portray our current posture and the 
presentation of space operators to the Joint Force. To that end, in 
February 2024, the Space Force transitioned from the Air Force Input 
Tool to the new Space Force Input Tool to support our service-specific, 
employed-in-place readiness inputs for the Defense Readiness Reporting 
System.
    In accordance with law, the Space Force presents forces and 
capabilities that underpin all instruments of our military power, and 
as mandated by Congress, the Space Force is responsible for organizing, 
training, and equipping those forces. The Space Force provides ready 
and capable operators to commanders worldwide, enabling these 
commanders to deter threats and, if necessary, prevail in conflict. 
Once presented, our Space Force Combat Squadrons will serve as unique 
Units of Action that undertake day-to-day missions for combatant 
commanders, while retaining our capacity to prepare and ready for high-
end fights.
    SPAFORGEN ensures that forces presented to Combatant Commanders can 
execute missions and tasks and are equipped to make appropriate 
recommendations on the effective employment, task organization, 
operational synchronization, and command relationships of space forces.
Operational Test and Training Infrastructure
    OTTI is an overarching concept describing a collection of programs 
and capabilities, both live and synthetic, that enable high-end testing 
and training of Space Force systems and operators against a thinking 
adversary. The Space Force relies on OTTI investments as a critical 
component of SPAFORGEN's success, and our overall ability to deliver 
combat-ready forces throughout readiness cycles. Generally, Space 
Force's ability to effectively develop, test, and train tactics will 
create greater and hugely positive impact on operational outcomes. OTTI 
provides the means to execute those core activities and is a critical 
component to generating Space Force readiness.
    More specifically, OTTI provides Guardians unique and realistic 
training against simulated adversaries, providing dynamic scenario 
issues which will prepare Guardians for the most diverse and 
challenging environments available. Our goal is for Guardians to 
receive training which prepares them for the threats they may face, 
therefore, these scenarios will be challenging and hyper-realistic. 
Producing this capability requires that we create an intelligence-
informed accounting of adversary capabilities and invest in high-
fidelity, mission-specific simulators. Such testing and training are 
invaluable to our Guardians and serves to establish a greater, combat-
ready force posture.
    It is imperative that we adequately invest in our test and training 
infrastructure so we can better prepare for the ``fight tonight'', and 
the President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request appropriately 
prioritizes Space Force OTTI as a critical function of Space Force 
readiness.
Service Component Activation
    The mechanism by which the Space Force ensures full integration and 
synchronization of space activities throughout the combatant commands 
is via Space Force Service Components. The Space Force established its 
first three service components in 2022 at U.S. Indo-Pacific Command via 
U.S. Space Forces for USINDOPACOM (USSPACEFOR-INDOPAC), U.S. Forces 
Korea via USSPACEFOR-KOR as a subordinate unit to USSPACEFOR-INDOPAC, 
and U.S. Central Command via USSPACEFOR-CENT.
    In 2023, we established USSPACEFOR-SPACE as the Space Force Service 
Component to U.S. Space Command and USSPACEFOR-EUCOM/AFRICOM 
(USSPACEFOR-EUR/AF) as the component to U.S. European Command / U.S. 
Africa Command and will continue standing up component and sub-
component commands as needs may require. The Secretary of the Air Force 
directed the activation of the remaining Service Components no later 
than 1 October 2025 and we are on track to achieve that goal.
Facilities and Infrastructure
    Space Force Facility, Sustainment, Restoration, and Modernization 
(FSRM) and Military Construction (MILCON) funding enables the Service 
to prioritize requirements which reduce risk to mission and the force. 
Structural, electrical, and power improvements to operational 
facilities reduce risk to mission and enable our joint and coalition 
partners in the fight, while quality of life infrastructure and 
facility improvements reduce risk to the force by improving resiliency 
amongst our Guardians and their families.
    Facilities and infrastructure are crucial to Space Force missions 
which are predominantly employed-in-place from facilities that are 
often inseparable from the weapon systems employed. While the Space 
Force does partner with the Air Force for significant logistics, 
security, medical services, and human resources support, the Space 
Force's ability to prioritize its unique FSRM and MILCON at our 
specific installations ensures we appropriately optimize our funding 
requests and maintain a sufficient, stable, and predictable funding 
strategy to execute its assigned missions as an independent service. 
Moving forward, the Space Force will continue to prioritize projects 
that increase facility and infrastructure resiliency and Service 
readiness, while balancing the requirements of the National Defense 
Strategy (NDS) and future projects.
Weapon System Sustainment
    Space Force Weapon System Sustainment directly supports the Space 
Force's ability to sustain the day-to-day readiness of weapon systems 
performing space missions, including combat power; missile warning/
missile tracking; positioning; navigation and timing; satellite 
communications; space domain awareness; and environment monitoring. 
Maintaining operations for these systems is critical to ensure Homeland 
and allied defense, and funding for these priorities must be continued 
for each to not risk opening capability gaps which will increase our 
vulnerability to adversary systems.
    From fiscal year 2024 to fiscal year 2025, the President's Budget 
Request prioritizes programmatic and operational readiness in support 
of the NDS, to include obsolescence mitigation and software maintenance 
for Upgraded Early Warning Radar and North American Aerospace Defense 
Command Cheyenne Mountain Complex systems. Moving forward, the Space 
Force is developing a necessary methodology to identify quantifiable 
solutions to balance sustainment support and future readiness needs.
Assured Access to Space
    The United States requires the capabilities, infrastructure, 
expertise, and tools necessary to access space on-demand throughout our 
military, civil, and private enterprises. To support the growing demand 
to leverage our launch capabilities, the Space Force established 
Assured Access to Space as the largest organization within Space 
Systems Command, comprised of Space Launch Delta 45, Space Launch Delta 
30, and the Program Executive Office for National Security Space 
Launch; Rocket System Launch Program; Launch and Test Range System; and 
Servicing, Mobility, and Logistics.
    Assured Access to Space is ultimately responsible for procuring 
launch services and delivering on-orbit capabilities for the entire 
National Security Space enterprise. This critical organization manages 
range sustainment programs in support of the DOD and commercial launch 
customers and supports three primary objectives: space access; rapid 
delivery; and orbital resiliency. Assured Access to Space will also 
transform today's launch sites into modern spaceports, with the 
capacity and resiliency necessary to ensure our Nation's ability to 
deliver capabilities into space when they are needed.
    Assured Access to Space is leading the Nation's planning for a new 
space mobility mission area to deliver space access, maneuver, and 
logistics capabilities needed to tackle growth in commercial satellite 
launch cadence and prepare for new operational concepts for mobility in 
orbit. It includes investment in on-orbit servicing and maneuver 
prototyping with the Air Force Research Laboratory, the Defense 
Innovation Unit, and other mission partners.
Spaceport of the Future
    For decades, the United States has continuously maintained its 
space launch infrastructure to meet limited demand from a small 
customer base. However, as demand for national security, civil, and 
commercial space capabilities continue to grow, our launch range 
infrastructure has not modernized sufficiently to meet the significant 
increase in launch demand. Accordingly, the Space Force undertook a 
broad effort to analyze our launch infrastructure enterprise and assess 
range modernization efforts to maximize our ability to support U.S. 
launch requirements.
    The Space Force's Spaceport of the Future is taking a comprehensive 
approach to look at all factors contributing to range costs and launch 
throughput. Launch rates rose approximately 30 percent each of the last 
2 years, and we expect rates to continue to rise through the Future 
Years Defense Plan. Therefore, the Space Force is prioritizing 
enhancements so that we have the infrastructure needed to meet these 
launch demands.
    To support the demand, the President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget 
Request asks Congress to fund our Spaceport of the Future activities to 
allow for increased launch throughput, enhanced capability, and assured 
access to space capabilities for the warfighter. Without this critical 
funding, we will see significant degradation in our infrastructure and 
our ability to provide launch services for our national security, 
civil, and commercial partners.
    We are thankful that Congress is providing the requisite 
reimbursement authorities necessary to collect direct and indirect 
costs incurred by the Space Force associated with launch activities. 
These authorities will facilitate commercial participation and 
investment into the United States' launch infrastructure and further 
our ability to meet growing range demand.
Agile Talent Management
    The Space Force sustains its readiness through its most important 
asset: our people. We need to enable our Guardians to succeed in an 
agile, adaptable manner to field the greatest space Force in the world. 
As a result, the Space Force is creating an innovative talent 
management system, establishing flexible service options and advanced 
training programs to establish opportunities for all guardians, 
including specialized credentialing, academics, experiences with 
industry partners, and tailored duty experiences to name a few.
    The Space Force is also participating in piloting DOD's Defense 
Civilian Training Corps program, designed to identify university 
talent, provide scholarships for accepted students, and prepare 
students for a career in DOD acquisition-related fields. This pilot 
program's goal is to create a sustainable pipeline of civilian talent 
into the service and motivate university students to serve their 
country as civilian members of the DOD. Additionally, Space Force's 
existing University Partnership Program further deepens our talent pool 
and improves enterprise-wide skill set development. Moreover, the Space 
Force is expanding its space-centered curriculum offerings within DAF 
educational programs, including Basic Military Training, Non-
Commissioned Officer Academy, United States Air Force Academy, Officer 
Training School, and Reserve Officer Training Corps.
    Even though we are the smallest military service, the Space Force 
places significant emphasis on our recruiting and retention efforts. 
Given the Space Force's highly technical mission set, we must remain 
diligent in meeting our recruiting goals and maximize guardians' 
flexibility to retain the talent we need to maintain our readiness 
advantages. While we have not experienced the recruiting challenges 
other military services have experienced to date, the Space Force needs 
to sustain its efforts, particularly as we expect to grow in Fiscal 
Year 2025.
    I especially appreciate Congress' support and enactment of the 
Space Force Personnel Management Act (SFPMA), which creates significant 
flexibility in how we manage our Service members to augment their 
skills and increase efficiency in workforce management. In accordance 
with the SFPMA, the Space Force is quickly moving to integrate its 
existing Active component guardians with Reserve Airmen in space-
focused career fields into one service. This critical authorization 
allows the Space Force to not only invest in and grow our talent pool, 
but also to retain such talent by offering guardians greater 
flexibility in their professional experiences.
    The Space Force will always look to identify more innovative, 
adaptable, and cutting-edge opportunities in talent management to 
ensure our guardians are able to rise to the challenge. Moving forward, 
the Space Force will refine and expand the ways we provide guardians 
with the tools, training, and resources they need to succeed 
operationally, professionally, and personally.
                             the way ahead
    The United States has approached our space activities with a desire 
to benefit not only Americans, but all people. It remains our goal that 
space remains open and accessible to all nations and space faring 
actors for peaceful use.
    We must continue to ensure this domain is not controlled or 
threatened by an adversary who does not seek the peaceful use of space. 
The United States is uniquely capable of maintaining an open 
environment for all nations in space. Just as we have ensured open 
access to maritime trade and sea routes, so too will we in space.
    Yet, our near-peer competitors are watching our efforts and 
attempting to preempt, deny, circumvent, and counter our space 
capabilities. While we are the most recent military service, we are 
not--and never have been--a new military service. We are built on 
decades of advances and contributions by dedicated Service members, 
civil servants, and industry partners who devoted themselves to their 
country and continue to do so.
    These guardians are stationed around the world in our deltas, 
combatant commands, and the intelligence community, ready to provide 
the combat capabilities we need. Our Units of Action will contribute to 
every combat mission the DOD undertakes. The training exercises and 
assessments will evolve to simulate warfare of the 21st century. At the 
center of it all is our readiness posture and our force-wide endeavor 
to provide combat decision makers with the most capable guardians we 
can, along with the training and equipment needed to succeed.
    Our ability to guarantee access to space is reliant upon our 
guardians, our technologies, and our commitment to push ourselves 
further, faster, and higher. Readiness does not mean purely standing 
alert; it is a mind set and a quality which requires investment in the 
mission, in oneself, and in each other. It is ultimately our people who 
empower us to do what we do; the technology and the tactics only enable 
our greatest assets to accomplish our Nation's needs. The DAF re-
optimization effort is as much an investment in our people as it is a 
restructuring of combat capabilities.
    There has never been a more important time for the Space Force to 
secure our Nation's interests, and we must ensure that we are properly 
resourcing the Space Force to guarantee the ability to achieve space 
superiority into the future. I truly appreciate this committee's 
continued support for our guardians and their mission; and look forward 
to working with you.

    Senator King. Thank you all three. That was excellent 
testimony, and I appreciate it.
    First I want to make a confession. I noticed my colleague, 
Senator Cramer, is in the room. When the Space Force was first 
proposed, I was a skeptic. I ultimately supported it, but I 
just was not sure that this was a direction we needed to move 
in.
    I am now a convert. I think the Space Force is absolutely 
in the right place at the right time, taking the right actions, 
and I am glad that we have an organization that is dedicated 
strictly to that mission. I do not know how often you hear 
Senators admit mistakes, but I wanted to get that on the 
record.
    The other thing I had to note, somewhat humorously, several 
years ago I visited Pine Gap in Australia with members of the 
Intelligence Committee, which of course is one of the world's 
major ground stations for space assets. We were with the 
Intelligence Committee. I was sure that this was highly 
classified. I came home, did not talk about it to anyone. They 
did not even tell them where I went until I noticed there was a 
Netflix series called ``Pine Gap,'' which was set at Pine Gap. 
So I guess it was not all that classified.
    Mr. Hill, classification. Are you making any progress on 
the declassification? Having information that cannot be used by 
the people that need it is not very useful information. Talk to 
me about where you are in the declassification process.
    Mr. Hill. Thank you, Chairman King. Yes, we are making 
progress. With the Deputy Secretary having signed out the new 
policy, that took us a good year to rewrite the policy. It was 
replacing a policy that was 20 years old. That policy was 
clearly out of date. It provides an updated framework for the 
program developers and operators to understand what is the 
minimum classification, if any classification, is necessary for 
a particular type of activity or program.
    We then turned that over to the services, and Secretary 
Calvelli is taking it very actively to them, rewrite the 
classification guides that they own for the particular systems 
that they develop. One important thing to understand----
    Senator King. Human nature is to overclassify.
    Mr. Hill. Yes.
    Senator King. Is there some systematic way to say does this 
really need to be classified at this level? Is there a 
mechanism?
    Mr. Hill. Yes, that policy very clearly provides that, and 
the direction Space Force and Secretary Calvelli have taken to 
heart is to move as fast as they can to update to that policy, 
which I expect will result in many things being removed from 
Special Access Programs. That will enable better planning and 
integration across the Joint Force.
    So what I could offer is maybe Secretary Calvelli could 
talk specifically----
    Senator King. Secretary Calvelli, your views?
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes. There was a 2004 policy that threw most 
space activities into the SAP world. I mean, it was actually a 
written policy. Thanks to John, and before him John Plumb, they 
actually got that policy updated for the first time in 20 years 
this past December. So now that frees us the ability to 
actually take programs out of Special Access channels. Because 
Special Access channels, all they do is cause stovepipes.
    So now we actively have a team in place that has put 
together a plan, a strategy. Instead of doing it program by 
program, we are doing it all at once. So we are doing one 
entire strategy up front. We will have it in place this fall to 
actually remove the vast majority of all of our space programs 
and reclassify them into TS, Top Secret, and Secret. They will 
not become unclassified but they will become Secret and TS, 
which will allow a lot more sharing as well as the ability to 
get rid of all those stovepipes.
    Senator King. Thank you. I appreciate that and hope that 
project will continue.
    A big question and not much time left. Commercial 
integration. All of you talked about resiliency. One of the 
keys to resiliency is proliferation--lots of smaller 
satellites, fewer single targets. What have we learned from 
Ukraine about the use of commercial satellites, particularly 
Starlink? Has the theory of proliferation worked?
    Mr. Hill. I think we are seeing that the innovation that 
came out of the commercial sector, which we are also adopting 
in many of the DOD architectures, that proliferation is 
absolutely one of the key elements of a resiliency strategy 
that supports mission assurance. Ukraine is proof of that.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you all very much. Senator 
Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
followup on the commercial side a little bit and how that ties 
in. First of all, thank you to the Department for issuing some 
good strategy in driving that forward with some goals and 
requirements and focus. Mr. Calvelli and General Guetlein, 
especially, I believe you both need to be thanked for this. We 
continue to need to harness that.
    Mr. Secretary, one of those hard problems is achieving 
space domain awareness and finding and characterizing our 
adversaries' activities in space. Can you speak to commercial 
capabilities that exist today in this area, both in tracking 
algorithms and in capturing commercial imagery of objects in 
space as well as any work you are doing in the private sector 
with this mission.
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes. So space domain awareness, as you know, 
is probably key to any kind of activity we would ever counter 
in space, understanding what is in the domain and keeping track 
of it. It is high on our list and I know it is high on General 
Whiting's list, as well.
    We are taking advantage of commercial where we can. There 
are some amazing companies out there that actually have ground-
based telescopes today as well as other commercial data that 
they are able to give and that we purchased through multiple 
avenues, to use that.
    We are also updating several of our radar sites, actually 
building new radar sites. A program called Deep Advanced Space 
Radar, or DARC, is actually a new set of radars we are putting 
in three locations--Australia, in the Outback; Texas; and then 
United Kingdom--and that is going to give us space domain 
awareness capabilities to track really small objects in 
geosynchronous orbit.
    We are also upgrading some of our internal Space Force 
antennas that we have, or telescopes, to do space-based 
tracking. But a combination of upgrades that we are making on 
our systems as well as continuing purchasing of commercial, and 
as more and more commercial companies start to take on space 
domain awareness mission, taking advantage of that, I think 
over time we will grow the capabilities that we need for space 
domain awareness.
    Senator Fischer. Do you need any more authorities or 
funding to make sure that this is going to happen, or are we on 
the right track now, do you think?
    Mr. Calvelli. Never say no to funding.
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Calvelli. But I think we are making progress against 
our plan right now. I mean, we could always accelerate things 
with additional dollars.
    Senator Fischer. What about authorities?
    Mr. Calvelli. For buying space domain awareness data? I do 
not see any show-stoppers with authorities. I do not know of 
General Guetlein would like to comment.
    General Guetlein. Ma'am, we are not challenged by 
authorities. We are challenged by resources. We have the Joint 
Commercial Office today that is a partnership with industry and 
15 of our allied partners. We have locations in Shriever here 
in the United States. We have locations in Australia and 
locations in Europe, where we are buying space domain awareness 
data from all the providers and then sharing it openly between 
all members. That did not require any additional authorities, 
but we are spending on orders of about $25 million a year to 
buy that data and distribute that data.
    Senator Fischer. That brings me to my second point about 
the budget request. We have seen, throughout the first 4 years, 
a lot of ramping up for Space Force, the budget increased, and 
that is not the case this year. General, we are looking at flat 
budget growth, which really amounts to a cut when we consider 
inflation into this, and it does limit Space Force's ability to 
meet the current threats that we face. You alluded to that. 
Would you like to expound on that a little bit more?
    General Guetlein. Yes, ma'am. I would put it into context 
with two things. One, right now there is a capability gap 
between us and our near peer competitors. That capability gap 
is rapidly narrowing. Given the resources we have today, we had 
to make some very tough decisions between balancing today's 
readiness and investing in tomorrow. Then balancing also within 
the Fiscal Responsibility Act. That really constrained what we 
were able to invest in the future. If we are able to either 
maintain that capability gap that we currently enjoy today or 
to widen that capability gap, we are going to have to expand 
the amount of resources that we are spending in space.
    Senator Fischer. How can we make that point clear? Senator 
King and I speak often about looking at classification of 
information that is out there so that, first of all, many of 
our colleagues, I think, would pay more attention to that if 
their constituents or the media is paying attention to what 
would be declassified and the information put out. So how do we 
get it to the public?
    General Guetlein. Ma'am, we have got to talk about, if you 
look at that Space Force was stood up in 2019, prior to 2019, 
we did not talk about this. It was too highly classified, we 
did not share data with our allies, et cetera. Since 2019, we 
have changed that dialog. We have a long way to catch up, 
though, in this information environment, of educating both the 
public as well as our Members on the Hill of what the 
challenges in space are.
    But more importantly the dependencies that we have as a 
Nation, as a free society on space, outside of the military, on 
a day-to-day basis, are immense, and we have got to get that 
message across.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. I have often thought of the Fiscal 
Responsibility Act as a straitjacket we put on ourselves, and 
now we are dealing with the consequences, not only in your 
budget but across the board.
    Senator Cramer, the godfather of the Space Force.
    Senator Cramer. Thanks, and your confession was very 
heartwarming. I bet it was really good for your soul. Anyway, 
that said, thank you, gentlemen--and frankly, thank you for 
your candor too. I think this is really important.
    I want to start with the disruptor side of things. 
Secretary Calvelli, you referenced nontraditional partners. 
Space is so interesting because the Air Force has these 
wonderful prime contractors that respond to whatever they are 
asked of. Space, it seems to me, seems be responding to the 
private sector itself, the commercial side, which has been so 
active, and that is good.
    I remember one of my very first discussions with General 
Raymond was, ``You have a white sheet of paper. Please utilize 
the freedom that provides and don't adapt to the culture that 
you are coming from.'' So whether it is a disruptor in the 
private sector, you talked about fixed price as a contributor 
to competition, when I think of the Space Development Agency I 
always think of SDA as the disruptor within the service itself. 
I am sure that creates a lot of tensions, and I recall several 
conversations in the last few years, particularly the early 
couple of years.
    So with the spiral development concept that you all use and 
that SDA uses, help me understand the role of SDA as the 
acquisition part of the shop, and then their role in providing, 
whether it is maintenance or management, participating, or do 
you just go to them and say, ``We need 100 more of these 
things. Buy them''?
    I ask that question, honestly, with some concern that SDA 
could end up getting a little bit handcuffed and not be the 
disruptor we need them to be within the larger Space Force, if 
that makes sense, and you can elaborate and correct me where I 
am wrong.
    Mr. Calvelli. No, I think you are right.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you.
    Mr. Calvelli. So SDA has been doing a magnificent job in 
terms of getting capabilities to orbit. So their first spiral, 
what they call Tranche 0, got 27 satellites in orbit, 8 missile 
warning/missile tracking satellites, and 19 transport 
satellites, and we are demonstrating those capabilities now.
    Tranche 1 will start launching again. December will be the 
first set of launches for there, again more transport 
satellites, and then next spring more tracking satellites.
    So from where they fit in, all things proliferated at low 
Earth orbit that relate to missile warning, missile tracking, 
as well as data transport, SDA is our go-to. That is their 
strength. Their strength is small sats proliferation, low Earth 
orbit, hundreds of miles above the Earth.
    We tend to go to Space Systems Command for the more 
traditional missions, such as military satellite communications 
at higher altitudes, higher altitudes for missile warning for 
launch, for space domain awareness. Then we tend to go to Space 
RCO for things that are related to, I will say, protect and 
defend kind of missions that are unique, that would go directly 
to support Space Command.
    But overall it is working out pretty good. SDA is part of 
the Space Force. They are part of the family. They fit in. Even 
though they are a little bit disruptive, they fit in pretty 
nicely, actually. I think they are showing the way to the other 
parts of the organization that, by building smaller and by 
using fixed price you actually can go faster. I am really 
impressed with them bringing in new space companies like Sea 
Air Space and Rocket Lab and York Systems, and using commercial 
bus lines, like we see at Airbus and at Terran Orbital. I think 
those are all really healthy things for the country.
    So under my watch I expect to continue to see SDA keep 
doing their great work. I think the biggest thing we will see 
down the road is we need to make sure, as we launch Tranche 1, 
which is operational systems next year----
    Senator Cramer. Yes.
    Mr. Calvelli.--that people use it. It does not matter how 
fast we build them if no one uses them, and we need to get the 
services to ramp on it and adopt it.
    Senator Cramer. General, just elaborating a little bit on 
that, then is there a handoff, or does SDA continue to sort of 
operate in that space after the assets are launched? As the 
Secretary said, if no one uses them, but if no one is using 
them, does SDA continue--so do using them and helping develop 
new and spiral as they operating what they have done already?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator. So as Secretary Calvelli 
said, we have integrated Space Development Agency fully into 
the United States Space Force----
    Senator Cramer. I understand that.
    General Guetlein.--so they are a part of the team. Their 
capabilities are being detail planned into our wargames, our 
exercises going forward, and into our war plans. So we are 
already counting on that capability and starting to test it. 
Like Secretary Calvelli said, we already proved Link 16 from 
space. We are now taking that capability and playing it into 
the exercises to see how it plays, understanding how it is 
going to support in a contested environment, and how do we 
continue to take advantage of it.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, and if there is another round I 
may get into some of the budget stuff. Thank you.
    Senator King. Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. We recently had a discussion with 
General Saltzman about refueling, and he wanted $20 million, I 
think, in the 2025 budget. How far are we behind China in 
refueling? This $20 million was only for a study. Can you 
explain that? I mean, $20 million for a study, other than $20 
million more for learning how to refuel, and why we need to 
refuel, and how far behind we are. Anybody want to answer.
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator, that is a good question, 
and I do recall you asking the CSO about that question. Right 
now we are doing the exploration of refueling in space to 
understand what does it actually contribute to the fight, 
because there is a balance between building refueling 
capability into a satellite, which is semi-expensive, and 
buying proliferated, lower-cost constellations. So we are going 
to need a combination of both. We are not sure what orbits are 
going to be which. We are not sure how we are going to do 
refueling as a service yet. So the $20 million is to actually 
study those effects.
    Senator Tuberville. Anybody else?
    Mr. Calvelli. Some of that fund actually goes to some 
demonstrations, as well, not on space but on the ground side, 
actually, looking at what it takes to go build the refueling 
unit and some demonstrations that we are doing on the ground 
side in terms of just the concept of two space vehicles docking 
and being able to actually put a refueling module in and how 
the refueling works.
    Some of the money is going to study work to see where the 
bigger picture is, and other some of that money is also going 
to actually design work and demonstration work.
    Senator Tuberville. Going back to commercial capabilities, 
are we leveraging those the right way, General?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator, we are. Secretary Hill just 
talked about publishing of the DOD's Commercial Space Strategy. 
On the heels of that we published the Space Force Commercial 
Space Strategy, which is all about how do I take advantage of 
space to start filling in resiliency, capacity, and redundancy 
into our capabilities.
    What we do know today is I cannot build all the kit that I 
am going to need. We are going to rely on partnerships, 
partnerships with allies and partnerships with our industrial 
partners. If you go back to the history of the United States, 
we have always relied on our industrial base during times of 
crisis or conflict, and this is going to be no different.
    So we are currently designing in how to take maximal 
advantage of those capabilities and innovation that is coming 
out of commercial to build out what we call hybrid 
architectures, which are a combination of DOD, civil, allied, 
and commercial platforms altogether, to get us to that capacity 
and that resiliency that we need in the future.
    Senator Tuberville. There is not a week goes by that I do 
not have somebody coming from Huntsville that is building new 
satellites. I mean, it seems like it is a growing trend, and 
whether it is building or refueling or using nuclear energy in 
satellites or offensive and defensive satellites.
    Do you all see the same thing? I mean, are you all 
overwhelmed with people that are getting in the satellite 
business, Secretary?
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes, it is amazing. We are very fortunate--
knock on wood, and I hope it keeps up--the space economy is 
starting to boom, and we are seeing amazing entrepreneurship 
from across the United States and companies come in.
    A week does not go by that a new company does not come in 
and tell me about some great concept that they are pursuing and 
doing. What is really wonderful is that they are also getting 
great investment dollars, as well, to be able to start 
themselves off. We are excited about the new space economy that 
is booming.
    Senator Tuberville. Seems like they have got a lot of money 
they want to invest, which is fine with us, right?
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes, absolutely.
    Senator Tuberville. It helps us all.
    General, what about recruiting and retention in the Space 
Force? Could you talk a little bit about that?
    General Guetlein. Thank you, Senator. We have the highest 
recruiting and retention in the United States Space Force 
today. We continuously exceeded our recruiting goals by several 
hundred. We have more people beating on our door to come into 
the Space Force than we can possibly take efficiently today, so 
that is a great problem.
    From the retention side of the question we are also doing 
great. We are in the high 90's on both enlisted and civilians, 
and we are able to retain that technical talent that we need 
for a complicated domain.
    Senator Tuberville. It seems like that would be one of your 
most important things is retention, experience. A lot of money 
out there in the private sector, as we just talked about, 
building satellites. So you do not see any problem in 
retention? We have not had that problem?
    General Guetlein. No, sir. We have not had that retention 
today in the United States Space Force. We are constantly 
watching for it. We are constantly trying to make sure that we 
are giving our guardians an experience and that we are giving 
them the tools that they need to be successful. But like I 
said, right now we are in the high 90's for both our enlisted 
and our officers for retention.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, let me just 
say thanks to all of you for your service to our country. We 
appreciate the opportunity to have this open briefing.
    I want to focus on just a couple of items that I think we 
sometimes miss in the discussion when we are in a classified 
session, and part of it is the budget itself. On May 1st of 
this year, in front of the SASC [Senate Armed Services 
Committee] hearing on the Space Force posture, it was reported 
that we have got basically a decrease in the Space Force budget 
for 2025 from 2024. The request in the fiscal year 2025 is 
$29.4 billion, which is a decrease of $600 million from fiscal 
year 2024--$18.7 billion for research, development, and 
testing, and the fiscal year 2024 request was $19.2 billion, 
the enacted was $18.6. That is almost $600 million less.
    We are talking an additional $650 million less with regard 
to procurement, and we are talking $122 million less with 
regard to operations and maintenance, and we are looking at 
about $9 million, almost $10 million less with regard to 
military personnel.
    Look, that does not bode well for the fact that out of the 
five domains we have got--air, land, sea, space, and 
cyberspace--to walk in and suggest that while China and Russia 
are both expanding their operations in space it would appear 
from the budget numbers themselves that we are suggesting a 
decrease in our operational capacity.
    Mr. Hill, your thoughts.
    Mr. Hill. Senator Rounds, that hits the nail on the head of 
a problem we face this year. We have all mentioned it. I 
mentioned it. I think the Chairman or the Ranking Member 
mentioned the constraints of the Fiscal Responsibility Act, 
one. That was one of the factors we had to deal with this year. 
Two is something that General Guetlein spoke to, the different 
nature of the Space Force budget. So when you get through 
putting together all the must-pay bills, and the Department of 
Defense has must-pay bills of salary and support to families, 
and operations, and so forth, of the forces, and you get down 
to what is left of discretionary, you come down to areas like 
readiness, research, development, testing, and evaluation----
    Senator Rounds. We are cutting it, are we not?
    Mr. Hill.--and procurement, and so where are you going to 
make those cuts? The cuts focused more, maintain the readiness, 
sacrifice some of the future, and those investment accounts are 
very--the Space Force has a high concentration of them.
    Senator Rounds. Let me go on. General Guetlein, I think you 
wear and uniform, and it is always your professional opinion 
that we are looking for, and that is how much do you need in 
order to do your job. Right now I am looking at this saying we 
are reducing what you have and expecting you to get the job 
done. The bottom line is we are expecting more out of Space 
Force in the next couple of years than we have ever expected in 
the past, as we remove some of our air-based capabilities, ISRs 
[Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance] specifically. 
What is the number that is appropriate as opposed to what we 
are seeing in the proposed budget?
    General Guetlein. Senator, I cannot give you a number. I 
can tell you that the threat is increasing daily. They are 
intent on not only denying our ability to use space, they are 
actually proving extremely capable at denying our ability to 
use space. They are trying to narrow that gap of capability 
down to zero or even negative, and we have got to increase that 
gap.
    Senator Rounds. General, if we were in a classified session 
and we asked you which programs, which products, which plans 
you proposed were denied in this budget, would you be able to 
give us a straight answer at that time?
    General Guetlein. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Look, and let me go on a little 
bit. Right now we have got guys in the Gulf sitting on 
destroyers and other equipment that we have got that are in 
harm's way. Part of what we expect is to be able to provide 
them with accurate information, intel, ISR, to be able to 
identify the guys that are shooting at them, the Houthis. Today 
in the Gulf we have reduced numbers of those types of assets 
available, and yet we have got guys still sitting there. Now, 
they are knocking off the actual weapons that are being shot at 
them, but I think it is about time that we start using the 
assets that we have got to find the guys that are making the 
decisions on when to shoot them and take them out before they 
are attacking our people.
    The ISR that we have got right now is air-based and space-
based. Are we in a position to provide the type of ISR 
necessary today in space to actually provide these folks with 
real-time information about who the bad guys are and where they 
are at and how we get at them?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator, we can provide that 
information from space, and we do it every single day. But as 
this threat continues to mature we are going to need additional 
ISR capabilities, both in air as well as in space.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. I think that is a very 
straightforward answer. We need both, do we not?
    General Guetlein. Correct.
    Senator Rounds. In the air-based and space-based.
    General Guetlein. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Right now we are short on both.
    General Guetlein. The closer in that we get to the actual 
threat itself, we need to start going more toward space to 
become resilient and to get around the anti-access/aerial 
denial capabilities of our adversaries. But the standoff 
capability very much needs to be airborne and into other types 
of conflict also needs to be airborne.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. When Russia 
invaded Ukraine it destroyed Ukraine's internet and its 
telephone access, and to help get Ukraine back online, SpaceX, 
one of our defense contractors, donated satellite internal 
terminals, called Starlink, and this allowed Ukrainian soldiers 
to run apps to target Russian forces and to be able to 
communicate with loved ones back home.
    Earlier this month, I wrote to DOD about Russia's use of 
Starlink terminals. Reports indicate that Russia has been able 
to buy Starlink terminals on the black market and that SpaceX 
has not cutoff their access, and that provides a major 
advantage to Russia on the battlefield.
    Now SpaceX is owned by Elon Musk, who has advocated for, 
quote, ``a peace plan,'' close quote, that reports suggest may 
have been developed after speaking with Vladimir Putin.
    Congress has a constitutional responsibility to make sure 
that taxpayer money does not go to companies that undermine 
U.S. national security goals. So I think it is critical that we 
get to the bottom of this.
    Mr. Hill, you oversee our space and missile defense and you 
have been working with SpaceX to counter illicit use of 
Starlink terminals. Let me start by asking, was SpaceX 
completely cooperative with DOD in its efforts to address the 
use of Starlink terminals by Russian forces?
    Mr. Hill. Senator, not only has SpaceX been very 
cooperative with the entire United States Government and the 
government of Ukraine, they have been forward leaning in 
identifying and bringing information to us.
    Senator Warren. Okay. Good. Good. I am glad to hear it 
because it is obviously critical that DOD contractors are not 
undermining U.S. foreign policy.
    So Russia's outdated communications have been a major 
contributor to their failures in Ukraine. Starlink obviously 
would be enormously valuable to the Russians. It would provide 
Russia with secure communications that they sorely need, which 
would significantly erode Ukraine's advantage on the 
battlefield. I understand this is an unclassified environment 
so I do not want to go anywhere where we should not. But I 
think there is a compelling public interest to conduct this 
oversight and to understand how DOD is plugging leaks here.
    Mr. Hill, in the broadest terms, can you describe how you 
worked with SpaceX to address this illicit use?
    Mr. Hill. So in broadest terms, recognizing that Russia has 
long-standing experience operating black markets----
    Senator Warren. Yes.
    Mr. Hill.--and is now leveraging black markets on their 
own. We have, one point, the Commercial Integration Cell. This 
is a cell that combines Space Operations Center where 
commercial companies and the U.S. Government can work together 
and can share information, including company proprietary 
information and classified information. That is one point where 
we can learn what is going on. They can share with us what they 
are seeing, and we can share what we are seeing.
    Broader across the Government, we can then develop 
strategies. Is it better to identify all the terminals which 
should be left on, or should we identify terminals that should 
be turned off? Different types of approach to list. We have 
done that with them.
    Senator Warren. Okay. So let me ask this maybe a little 
more pointedly. Do you have confidence that moving forward DOD 
can identify illicit Russian use of Starlink services and 
completely shut them off?
    Mr. Hill. I think this will be a continuous problem.
    Senator Warren. I take that as a no.
    Mr. Hill. I think we can continue to identify them and turn 
them off, but I think Russia will not stop at----
    Senator Warren. Okay. So you think it is going to be an 
ongoing process.
    You know, war obviously is an unpredictable unfolding, but 
we should not have to worry about whether or not U.S. 
contractors are supporting our adversaries or giving access to 
our adversaries, and my understanding is that Space Force is 
negotiating an extension of its Starlink contract with SpaceX.
    Mr. Hill, can you assure me that as you renegotiate this 
contract that you will have provisions in place that will 
require SpaceX to do everything within its ability to prevent 
illicit use by Russia and other forces?
    Mr. Hill. Our contracts, in conjunction with the licenses 
that regulatory agencies provide--DOD does not control those--
together they ensure what you are looking for, in terms of if 
SpaceX complies with our contracts and they comply with the 
licenses that they have from regulatory agencies, who can 
enforce those licenses, and the various civil and criminal----
    Senator Warren. Okay. I just want to make sure I am 
understanding it, and I get it, we are in an unclassified 
setting here. The devil is always in the details. I taught 
contract law for many years. I would ask you to submit to the 
Committee the conditions that give you confidence that SpaceX 
is bound contractually so that it will prevent illicit use of 
those terminals by Russia.
    I just think it is critically important that DOD hold its 
contractors accountable for any mismanagement or any illegal 
acquisition of its hardware and services by bad actors, and we 
just want to make sure that Russia is not getting an advantage 
here.
    Mr. Hill. In responding to the letter that you mentioned at 
the outset, we will be addressing those kinds of things for 
you.
    Senator Warren. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Senator King.
    [Inaudible.]
    Senator Rosen.--Senator Cramer was next. Thank you. Well, 
thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for being here, for the 
work that you do. Really appreciate it.
    I am just going to right into it and talk about Iran, 
Russia, and we are going to stay on this topic a little bit 
about Russia, but now Iran, Russia, and their space 
collaboration, because they are both driven by a shared 
interest in countering United States superiority in space, Iran 
and Russia. They are deepening their cooperation in space. We 
know, just this past February, Russia launched an Iranian 
satellite into orbit, and the two countries have signed an 
agreement for their space industries to cooperate. Iran's 10-
year space program relies on Russian assistance for its 
operations, from launching their high payload satellites to the 
ultimate goal of sending an Iranian into space.
    Mr. Hill, what are the security, and I am not sure if you 
can speak to the threat implications, but maybe the general 
can, knowing that we are in an open session, of the joint 
Iranian-Russian space cooperation, and how is the United States 
addressing and navigating this emerging State partnership that 
I think we might be worried about.
    Mr. Hill. I would add it does not stop at Iran. It also 
involves North Korea, as we have seen with Iran and North Korea 
providing Russia missile to support Russia's operations in 
Ukraine, and then Russia likely providing them technology 
assistance in their programs to expand the threats that they 
present to us and to others.
    The responses of controlling transfers of technology have 
their limitations. We certainly are watching what they are 
doing, but the ability to continue cutting off Russia, Iran and 
North Korea is fundamentally at the crux of it, but they are 
going to keep pressing on those.
    Senator Rosen. We probably need a closed session to talk 
about what this really entails. If you can speak to it at all. 
Otherwise we will wait for the closed session.
    General Guetlein. Senator, I cannot go into the specific 
details. I can tell you it is troubling. We are seeing 
proliferation of technology. We are seeing support of launch 
technology, which can quickly lead to something larger like an 
intercontinental ballistic missile. Russia is a nuclear-armed 
nation. We definitely do not want that technology to 
proliferate. Then it also opens up additional fronts of concern 
during conflict.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. We will look 
forward to the closed session.
    I am going to build on this because we have international 
partnerships, like they have international partnership. We have 
our own international partnerships, and so we work with our 
partners and allies. It is crucial to providing this layered, 
comprehensive approach that we are going to need to combat 
this.
    The success of international cooperation was actually seen 
in the recent unsuccessful attack on Israel carried out by Iran 
and the successful shoot-down of over 300 inbound threats. That 
defensive action relied on sharing space capabilities with our 
partners in the region.
    So General, can you discuss the importance of these 
international partnerships, as much as you can, in response to 
what we just asked, and really about what happened just 
recently. We thwarted that attack, helped to thwart that on 
Israel by Iran.
    General Guetlein. Yes, ma'am. I would say our partnership, 
both with industry and with our allies, is one of our 
competitive advantages that we continue to nurture and to 
expand.
    It is hard to be everywhere at all times. As you saw in the 
Middle East, there were threats coming from multiple different 
directions. Luckily we have spent many years working with our 
allies to integrate our capabilities, so that we see, they see, 
and that we can actually do handoffs of threats from one nation 
to another, and that actually paid a lot of dividends.
    So going forward I would expect to see greater partnerships 
with our allies, not less.
    Senator Rosen. A lot of our strengths is in our 
partnerships and our allies and friends around the world, and 
that continued training and investing in that.
    Speaking of investing in what you need to do all this, it 
relies on technology. So we have to have the technology 
workforce, and we have a huge shortage. There is, not just in 
this area but in every area of technology, it is a vital part 
of ensuring that every bit of our armed services is capable and 
prepared for the threats that are coming toward us, especially 
space.
    So I am going to keep going back to you, General. As the 
newest branch of the armed services, do you currently possess 
and have access to the skilled workforce you need to complete 
your mission, and what are the challenges that you are facing 
recruiting? What do we need to do to help you invest in that 
kind of workforce that you are going to need to enter into, to 
keep us safe in space?
    General Guetlein. Thank you, Senator. As I stated a little 
bit earlier, our retention and our recruiting are extremely 
high. We are exceeding our recruiting numbers every year by 
several hundred.
    But what is more important is the quality and the 
experience level of those recruits is off the charts. Most of 
them are a little older than their normal peers that are coming 
in recruiting. Fifty-three percent of them have at least a 
bachelor's degree or 14 hours-plus toward it. Fourteen percent 
of our recruits actually have a bachelor's degree or higher 
when we recruit them. It is a very technical workforce.
    So today we are meeting those numbers. The challenge going 
forward is how do I grow efficiently. I cannot just accept 
everybody that wants to come in today and get them trained. So 
we are trying to balance our training resources with how many 
people we can recruit going forward and what is an efficient 
way to grow forward in the future.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I appreciate that. I yield back.
    Senator King. Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am going to start 
with the Secretary here. China and Russia are continuously 
developing anti-satellite systems, and that really concerns, I 
think, all of us. I want to talk specifically about one 
capability we have on orbit, and that is the Space Based 
Infrared System that we use. It is on orbit today, that we use 
to detect launches from the surface, often strategic ballistic 
missiles that could be heading in our direction, and they could 
be vulnerable.
    I want to understand from you, Mr. Secretary, have we been 
thinking about the degradation and maybe denial of use of that 
system and what that would mean overall to our missile warning 
capability?
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes. Yes, we have. In fact, we are re-
architecting that system and building a proliferated layer at 
medium Earth orbit (MEO) and a proliferated layer at low Earth 
orbit. In fact, it was eight satellites that we launched 
already for the LEO option, just against that threat. We will 
maintain, through orbit diversity and through proliferation, so 
we will maintain the geo-orbit for the near term, we will have 
the MEO orbit coming of age, starting in 2026, and we will have 
the LEO orbit starting to get populated now.
    So because--you are totally correct--because of the threat 
against capabilities like missile warning that the Nation 
relies on and needs, we are fundamentally changing the 
architecture to build a proliferated layer at LEO and MEO that 
is much more highly resilient than the few big targets at GEO 
[Geostationary Earth Orbit].
    Senator Kelly. Beyond that--we have a system that looks 
over the horizon with radar--beyond that, other than the orbit 
capability, the infrared capability we have from space, there 
is probably not many other ways to detect the first launch of a 
ballistic missile. Is that correct?
    Mr. Calvelli. I am not as familiar with our terrestrial 
based systems. I know from space that we rely really heavily on 
the old DSPs [Defense Satellite Program] as well as what is 
known as SBIRS [Space-based Infrared System], like you 
mentioned, for missile warning from space.
    Senator Kelly. Yes, I am really concerned about this, 
because if we were to lose the Space-Based Infrared System it 
makes us very vulnerable to a first strike without being able 
to detect it.
    Mr. Calvelli. You are right. But, I mean, on the good side, 
sir, the Space Force has been very proactive in this area. We 
are funded, and we are building, and we are already starting to 
launch more proliferated systems that do missile warning, and 
add capability to also help track.
    Senator Kelly. To the extent that we can talk about it in 
this setting, can you give us an idea of when this MEO and LEO 
system will be complete?
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes. So there are 8 demo satellites on orbit 
in LEO today that are being tested. There is another 32 that 
will go up over the 2025 to 2026 timeframe in LEO. That will be 
what we call our Tranche 1, and on the MEO side, right now we 
planned 9 satellites in the 2026 to 2027 timeframe.
    Senator Kelly. What level of redundancy does that provide 
us? So what I am getting at is how many of those could we use 
in LEO and MEO and still retain the full capability to detect a 
launch from Russia or China?
    Mr. Calvelli. The system is really interesting. I think our 
space warfighting analysis did a great job designing it. What 
it is, is that they are basically independent layers. So you 
could take out all of one and still do the mission with the 
other, as an example.
    Senator Kelly. You could take out the LEO constellation and 
you could get everything from MEO, or vice versa.
    Mr. Calvelli. Yes.
    Senator Kelly. Could you take out half of the MEO 
satellites, as well, and get the coverage you need?
    Mr. Calvelli. You know, the beauty of proliferation is you 
get the coverage through having more assets. I think the more 
you take out, the more capability you lose, right. But building 
smaller systems you could replenish much quicker, as well. But 
obviously, sir, you are right. The more you take out, the more 
it hurts.
    Senator Kelly. Yes. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Senator King. Thank you. We will have a second round for 
those who are interested.
    Mr. Hill, just to clarify in your exchanges with Senator 
Warren, is there any evidence that Starlink or SpaceX is 
willingly or knowingly allowing the Russians to utilize those 
black market terminals that they have acquired?
    Mr. Hill. To the contrary. There is every evidence that 
when SpaceX becomes aware of things they try to work with U.S. 
Government to come up with the best solution for how to turn 
them off. To confirm, those terminals should be turned off and 
that they are not getting like a false positive.
    Senator King. Yes. So there is no evidence that SpaceX is, 
as I say, willingly trying to utilize those.
    Mr. Hill. You are correct.
    Senator King. Thank you. General, you have talked several 
times about working with allies. It strikes me that that is one 
of our really asymmetric advantages. Are we working with allies 
also--and I suppose this could go to either of you--in terms of 
the development of these technologies? In other words, all 
wisdom on technology does not necessarily reside here, and we 
have got allies like Japan, the EU, Scandinavia, that we could 
get more out of our dollars if we are working jointly with 
these close allies.
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator, we are. We are building 
collaborative projects, for example, SATCOM with Luxembourg, 
SATCOM with Norway, PNT with Japan. So we are broadening out 
those partnerships on a daily basis, building ground-based 
radars in Australia as well as in the U.K., collaborating on 
launch with New Zealand.
    So we are, across the board, trying to embrace our allies. 
I will give kudos to our folks in policy that were able to 
break down the classification barriers, that once we put those 
into place will also allow us to have broader conversations 
with our allies.
    Senator King. In my discussions with some of our allies, 
ITAR [Information Technology Acquisition Review] keeps coming 
up as a possible barrier. How are we dealing with that?
    General Guetlein. I would pass that to Secretary Calvelli.
    Mr. Calvelli. Passing to John Hill. That is a State 
Department issue.
    Mr. Hill. ITAR is always a concern allies will have if they 
are worried about having to incorporate U.S. technologies into 
systems they are developing. They worry that somehow our 
licensing system will prevent them doing what they want to do.
    I think with respect to the question, though, of just 
general collaboration between the Defense Department and 
allies, as they grow their defense budgets to meet, for 
example, NATO targets, ITAR is not really a factor in that 
situation. We can develop the collaborative program and then 
work with the allies.
    Senator King. All of what we have been talking about today 
in terms of defense has largely been about resiliency, 
proliferation, many systems. The cornerstone of our defense 
strategy for 70 years, however, has been deterrence, that is, 
the adversary fears the consequences of an aggressive action 
against this country. Is deterrence part of our strategy in 
space, Mr. Secretary?
    Mr. Calvelli. I think absolutely yes, but I think one of 
the challenges is the classification levels.
    Senator King. Well, it is not deterrence if the adversary 
does not know about it.
    Mr. Calvelli. You are correct, and I will defer to General 
Guetlein on the Space Force on deterrence.
    Senator King. That is Dr. Strangelove 101. General?
    General Guetlein. Senator, integrated deterrence is a 
foundation of our strategy. We do balance, on a day-to-day 
basis, what capabilities we decide to reveal and conceal, to 
make sure that the adversary knows that we are intent on 
maintaining that capability gap and protecting and defending 
our capabilities on a day-to-day basis.
    So deterrence is the cornerstone of everything that we are 
trying to do. If you think back to General Saltzman, one of his 
core themes is Competitive Endurance. Under Competitive 
Endurance we would rather be in a State of constant competition 
and to deter aggression rather than be into a State of 
conflict.
    Senator King. Thank you. I have to go to another hearing. 
Vice Chair Fischer is going to preside, and it is over to her 
for a second round of questions.
    Senator Fischer. [Presiding.] Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 
General, again to followup with what the Chairman was talking 
about and tying it into the budget, I know there is a robust 
unfunded priorities list both from General Whiting and from 
General Saltzman. In this setting can you discuss some of the 
general capabilities that Space Force could move ahead with if 
you were provided with those additional resources? When we talk 
about deterrence that is the point of this.
    General Guetlein. Yes, sir. Thank you, Senator. General 
Saltzman, earlier last month, submitted our unfunded priorities 
list to the tune of about $1.15 billion. In that list was 
resiliency for our ground systems, power upgrades, HVAC 
[heating, ventilation, and air conditioning] systems what have 
you, because the Space Force fights from in place, so in our 
facilities our power and cooling is really our JPA, our fuel if 
you will. That is our weapons system. So he is asking for money 
to invest in resiliency.
    He asked for money in the Working Capital Fund to move it 
from DISA [Defense Information Systems Agency] over to the 
Space Force, so that we have a business model to actually 
procure additional commercial capacity for our warfighters and 
for our Nation.
    He asked for $19 million for National Space Test and 
Training Center, which is building out our ability to do 
advanced tests and advanced training in a live, virtual, 
constructive environment.
    He asked for $60 million to restore the Small Launch 
Program so that we can provide ride shares to our industry 
partners and to our academic partners.
    He asked for $786 million in classified space control 
capabilities to ensure that we can protect and defend our 
capabilities on space.
    He asked for $43 million to allow the Space Development 
Agency to do experimentation.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir, very much. Hopefully we 
can start to deliver on some of those.
    Senator Cramer, do you have additional questions?
    Senator Cramer. I don't because
    [inaudible].
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Senator Rounds, any other 
questions?
    Senator Rounds. I do. Thank you, Madam Chair, or Vice 
Chair. For Mr. Hill and General Guetlein, are you aware of the 
20-month EMBRSS [Emerging Mid-Band Radar Spectrum Sharing] 
study that was authorized to explore the sharing of the 
electromagnetic spectrum in the critical 3.1 to 3.45 gigahertz 
band?
    Mr. Hill. I am. General?
    Senator Rounds. Are you aware that this was a study that 
included the whole-of-government as well as representatives of 
defense contractors and the telecommunications industry?
    Mr. Hill. Yes, Senator.
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Are you aware of the finding of this 
interagency study group that sharing in this band between 
Federal and commercial systems is not feasible unless, and I 
quote, ``certain regulatory, technological, and resourcing 
conditions are met and implemented''?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator.
    Mr. Hill. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Are you also aware that the estimate of 
this interagency study was that implementing the conditions 
could take 30 years and $260 billion in this portion of the 
electromagnetic band alone, even if the very stringent 
conditions were able to be met?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator.
    Mr. Hill. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Are you also aware of the legislative 
proposals in the Commerce Committee calling for the use of the 
728 gigahertz band to the spectrum, where the Space Force and 
other services maintain similarly critical systems for the 
defense of our country?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator.
    Mr. Hill. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Can you tell this Subcommittee where you 
stand on these efforts, if they proceed forward without the 
most stringent conditions, such as the development and 
implementation of the Dynamic Spectrum Sharing, the 
interference safeguards, and a massive influx of Federal 
resources to maintain the defense of this country?
    General Guetlein. Senator, spectrum is vital to our way of 
life. It is actually a natural resource just like water or air, 
and just like water or air, we need to protect that vital 
resource. We need to make sure it is not contested, we need to 
make sure it is not polluted, and we need to make sure it is 
not controlled.
    If you look at the 7 to 8 gigahertz spectrum band that you 
are talking about, that is where most of our NC3, so our 
nuclear command and control capabilities, lie. Those systems 
have been purposely designed for that spectrum, and if we were 
pushed outside of that spectrum, those systems that took us 
decades to develop and billions of dollars to develop would 
have to be reconstituted in some sort of fashion.
    If you look at just the wideband gapfiller system, we have 
10 of those on orbit today, they cost about $600 million 
apiece. Each one of those takes 4 years to develop. Just 
looking at just that one piece of the architecture for wideband 
gapfiller, that is $6 billion and at least a decade to 
reconstitute, to assume that we could even find another 
spectrum that it could operate. You amplify that across all of 
our capabilities and you start to see the large numbers that 
you just talked about in that study. So it would be detrimental 
to us to lose that spectrum.
    Senator Rounds. Mr. Hill, anything to add to that?
    Mr. Hill. That was an excellent summary of how we use it. 
The national security community, Defense Department, 
intelligence community, when we have been allocated spectrum we 
have invested heavily to utilize that spectrum. The Nation has 
tremendous investments that are put at risk if we carelessly 
start reallocating spectrum. The national security community 
needs to be at the table whenever this conversation comes up.
    Senator Rounds. Would you suspect that our adversaries 
would love to see us try to disrupt our ability to use those 
specific bands?
    General Guetlein. Absolutely.
    Mr. Hill. Our adversaries always like to see us disrupt 
ourselves.
    Senator Rounds. We have met the enemy, and sometimes the 
enemy is us.
    One other thought. I note also that in the 3.1 to 3.4 
gigahertz area the LRDR, or the long range discriminating 
radar, actually sits in that band, as well, does it not?
    General Guetlein. It does, and that is our last line of 
defense to protect the Homeland from a nuclear launch from 
North Korea.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Senator Rounds, for opening up 
that line of discussion, I would just follow that up, as a 
member of the Commerce Committee, that there are some bills out 
there that look at spectrum auctions. There are deep concerns 
by many Members, obviously on Armed Services Committee, but on 
Commerce Committee, as well.
    Do you believe wise, in fact, it would be vital for 
Senators before moving on any kind of legislation to have 
auction in the bands that were discussed previously by Senator 
Rounds, that they would at least contact DOD for technical 
advise?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator.
    Mr. Hill. Yes. The Defense Department needs to be part of 
the conversation.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. As you said, this is a national 
security issue, and it would be detrimental for us to lose 
access of that spectrum for our security. Am I restating that 
correctly?
    General Guetlein. Yes, Senator. It would be detrimental for 
us to lose access to that natural resource.
    Mr. Hill. Correctly and more succinctly than I usually do.
    Senator Fischer. You did a nice job, Mr. Hill. Thank you 
very much. Anything else from Senators that are present?
    Thank you very much, and with that I thank our panel for 
being here. I look forward to continuing our discussions, and 
the hearing is adjourned. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 10:42 a.m., the Subcommittee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                        space acquisition tenets
    1. Senator King. Secretary Calvelli, as I mentioned in my opening 
statement, in October 2022, you issued your ``Space Acquisition 
Tenets,'' which contains nine tenets to guide your acquisition 
professionals. A long-standing issue has been putting satellites up in 
space before the ground systems are complete to use the data. Can you 
give us an example of what ground systems you are talking about and why 
this is important?
    Secretary Calvelli. One of my priorities is to ensure that the 
space and ground segments come together as a system. We need to 
proactively drive ground systems to be ready before launch. Not having 
ground systems ready delays our ability to use new satellite 
capabilities. One way to reduce risk and drive timely deliveries is to 
avoid building large complex monolithic ground software systems. 
Instead, as we architect future ground systems, they must be broken up 
into smaller less complex software development systems to reduce risk 
and add speed.
    The Global Positioning System Next-Generation Operational Control 
System (GPS OCX) program is a prime example of how difficult it is to 
tackle a single complex command and control system and large monolithic 
software development projects at the same time. This single acquisition 
of multi-million lines of software code is years late and overrun.
    The Space Development Agency (SDA) is working to ensure their 
ground infrastructure, including two new network operations centers, is 
on track for delivery to support all their Tranche 1 tracking 
satellites. Space Systems Command architected their Future 
Operationally Resilient Ground Evolution (FORGE) missile warning ground 
systems into more manageable smaller contracting elements, to include a 
mission framework, mission processing, mission scheduling. Similarly, 
the ground for the new Evolved Strategic SATCOM (ESS) program has also 
broken their ground software into smaller elements.
                          space force training
    2. Senator King. General Guetlein, training is essential for any 
warfighting service. It develops competency and projects deterrence to 
our adversaries. How does the Space Force train? Is it a mix of actual 
training in space and simulations here on the ground?
    General Guetlein. The Space Force (USSF) conducts a mixture of 
training in both the space and ground segments of our systems. 
Operational Test and Training Infrastructure (OTTI), a critical 
component to the USSF's ability to generate readiness for Great Power 
Competition, provides an integrated system of systems architecture 
enabling guardians to test and train in an operationally relevant 
manner to achieve and sustain combat readiness. OTTI was formally 
established within the USSF in 2023 and includes: 1) high-fidelity 
mission-specific simulators, 2) live and synthetic ``ranges'' which are 
part of the National Space Test and Training Complex (NSTTC), 3) live 
and synthetic aggressor forces, and 4) interoperability with other 
joint, federated capabilities such as the Joint Simulation Environment 
(JSE).
    For example, the NSTTC unifies operations of the Electromagnetic 
Range, Orbital Warfare Range, Cyber Warfare Range, and the Digital 
Warfare Environment for a broad range of integrated test and training 
activities. Each of the ranges and the digital environments are 
operated by units dedicated to providing customers with a safe and 
secure environment supporting test, training, exercise, and 
experimentation activities in the varied space and cyber domains.
    In addition, Space Operations Command (SpOC) has implemented 
scenarios via Table Top Seminars that enable us to quickly identify and 
close qualitative gaps in operational readiness with respect to 
Doctrine, Concepts, Training; OTTI capability needs; Concepts of 
Operations (CONOPS); Concepts of Employment (CONEMPs); Command & 
Control; Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures (TTPs); and crossField 
Command dependencies. The use of scenarios has improved the Space 
Force's ability to present fully burdened, combat credible space forces 
to the Joint Force commander. These scenarios, called FLASHPOINT, are 
based upon the environment established in the Space Force's Space Flag 
exercise--the training event proposed by Congress in the Fiscal Year 
2018 NDAA (Sec. 1615). In 2017, the Air Force (USAF) held the first 
Space Flag. USSF now holds Space Flag exercises executed by Space 
Training and Readiness Command (STARCOM). Space Flag validates the 
environment, scenario, and operator responses, and enables SpOC to meet 
Space Force Generation (SPAFORGEN) certification requirements.
   space based tactical intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance
    3. Senator King. General Guetlein, the Air Force is phasing out our 
Joint Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (JSTARS) radar aircraft, 
which performed Ground Moving Indication (GMTI) as well as our E-3 
Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) aircraft, which perform Air 
Moving Target Indication (AMTI). The Space Force will be taking on this 
mission with space-based platforms. This has traditionally been a title 
10 mission for the Air Force now this will be the Space Force. Last 
year's National Defense Authorization Act gave the tasking authority 
for tactical space-based intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance 
to the Air Force and hence the Space Force. What issues do you see in 
this transition from air to space in terms of mission?
    General Guetlein. The transition of Moving Target Indication (MTI) 
capabilities from airborne to space assets involves the following 
considerations:

      Integration into Joint processes and systems: The Space 
Force is collaborating with the Services, Combatant Commands, Defense 
Agencies, and the Intelligence Community (IC), in a complementary way 
to design, develop, and deploy Space-Based Ground Moving Target 
Indicator (SB-GMTI) systems that meet validated requirements and inform 
future budget considerations, with a primary focus on the ground 
architecture necessary to enable orchestration, Department of Defense 
(DOD) tasking & target custody, and doctrine, organization, training, 
materiel, leadership and education, personnel, and facilities (DOTMLPF) 
requirements. SB-GMTI will provide actionable information on potential 
adversary targets to the warfighter through the Department of the Air 
Force (DAF) Battle Network, DAF's primary contribution to Combined 
Joint All-Domain Command and Control (CJADC2).

      Facilitating a shift in thinking that SB-GMTI 
capabilities are not intelligence collection-oriented but are instead 
tactical and operationally intended for direct tactical and operational 
support to the Combatant Commands. The core function of SB-GMTI is to 
close kill chains and facilitate beyond line-of-sight battle management 
within Joint Long-Range Kill-Chain time requirements. SB-GMTI will aid 
Combatant Commands in the ability to Find, Fix, Track, Target, support 
Engagement through In Flight Target Updates (IFTUs), and Assess F2T2EA 
potential threats through competition, crisis, and conflict.

      Deconfliction of Combatant Command collection operations 
authorities; the USSF is not creating a new process or advocating to be 
the Collection Management Authority for the Combatant Command. The USSF 
will assign forces to the Combatant Commands to manage, plan, execute, 
and task systems, just as the Joint Forces Air Component Commander 
(JFACC) would for theater airborne Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR). SB-GMTI forces will integrate into Combatant 
Command collection working groups, boards, and development processes to 
effectively integrate, synchronize, and dynamically manage the 
Combatant Command's SB-GMTI allocation in support of Joint Force 
objectives.

      Reorganization of United States Space Force (USSF) forces 
to fulfill new mission areas; the USSF's force presentation, at Full 
Operational Capability, will focus on Global and Regional Operations. 
Global Operations, conducted by a Global Combat Squadron assigned to 
the United States Space Command (USSPACECOM), via the United States 
Space Forces - Space (S4S), will be responsible for: 1) global mission 
management (including managing vehicle duty cycles and interfacing with 
IC partners); 2) execution of the global allocation plan (including 
coordination of the plan in accordance with (IAW) Secretary of Defense 
priorities and monitoring of regional capacity allocations); and 3) 
global reach back (in support of dynamic reallocation between Combatant 
Commands where needed and to provide notifications of anomalous 
constellation conditions). Regional Operations will be conducted by the 
Regional Elements within the Space Force Service Component Commands 
assigned to each Combatant Command. Teams of guardians will facilitate 
constellation tasking IAW Combatant Command J2/J3 direction, develop 
intra-theater strategies, verify data to command-and-control nodes, and 
provide sensor feasibility assessments and usage recommendations.

    4. Senator King. General Guetlein, how will this legislation ensure 
the combatant commander has the same military tasking ability today 
that he will have with space?
    General Guetlein. In accordance with Section 1684 of the Fiscal 
Year 2024 National Defense Authorization Act, the Secretary of the Air 
Force has the responsibility for presenting ground and airborne moving 
target indication systems that are funded by the Department of Defense 
(DOD) and provide near real-time support to combatant commands. Space-
Based Ground Moving Target Indicator (SB-GMTI) systems meet this 
responsibility as military surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities 
that will be presented by the USSF to the combatant commands to close 
kill chains and facilitate beyond line-of-sight battle management 
within Joint Long-Range Kill-Chain time requirements. SB-GMTI is not a 
one-for-one swap for the retired E-8C JSTARS's sensing capabilities; 
rather it is an evolved weapon system that serves as the next 
generation moving target indicator for the warfighter, raising a large 
majority of that capability to space. SB-GMTI will facilitate access 
and persistence in highly contested environments.
    The intent of SB-GMTI is to enhance and expedite near real-time 
support to Combatant Commands. The best way to enhance that support is 
to integrate to the greatest extent possible into Combatant Command 
processes. We need to bring the system tasking and requirements 
validation capabilities directly under the purview and control of the 
Combatant Commands. The DOD's method for doing this, in doctrine and 
practice, is via Service presentation of capabilities and personnel via 
Service components. Combatant Commands will receive trained, 
experienced, and knowledgeable forces to integrate directly at all 
levels of operations. This integration enables requirements and tasks 
to be more responsive to and more aligned with warfighter needs on a 
deliberate and dynamic basis.

    5. Senator King. Secretary Calvelli, you served many years in the 
National Reconnaissance Office and the intelligence community has 
capabilities in this area. From an acquisition and tasking stand point 
what is most important to you to ensure the capabilities you will 
develop remain title 10 capabilities?
    Secretary Calvelli. I am in constant communication with my 
Intelligence Community partners to ensure we are mutually adhering to 
the policies governing the acquisition and tasking of title 10 and 
title 50 space capabilities. Given the threats to national security 
posed by our competitors, it is imperative that we avoid duplication of 
effort while simultaneously leveraging capabilities to efficiently and 
affordably meet the full range of national security requirements.
    Space-based Ground Moving Target Indicator (SB-GMTI), a joint 
venture between the United States Space Force and National 
Reconnaissance Office, benefits and reinforces collaboration between 
the Department of Defense (DOD) and Intelligence Community. The 
Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) 
have agreed that 100 percent of the SB-GMTI is allocated and tasked by 
the DOD.

    6. Senator King. Mr. Hill, the JSTARS and the E-3 AWACS are used by 
NATO and other allies, as their aircraft also age out will they use our 
space based assets without deploying their own?
    Mr. Hill. NATO Allies and non-NATO Allies are increasing 
investments in intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), 
and other space-based defense systems. They desire to invest in ways 
that maximize interoperability with U.S. space systems.
    For NATO Allies, this approach advances objectives of NATO's 
overarching Space Policy, which recognizes that, ``[i]ntelligence, 
surveillance and reconnaissance requires space capabilities for 
strategic, operational and tactical assessment, situational awareness 
and to support decisionmaking and planning.'' NATO's policy also states 
that, ``NATO will identify and, if necessary, develop appropriate 
mechanisms, based on voluntary participation, to fulfil and sustain 
requirements for space support in NATO operations, missions and other 
activities in the above functional areas. Allies' capabilities, and, if 
necessary, trusted commercial service providers should be leveraged to 
meet these requirements in the most secure, efficient, effective and 
transparent manner.''
    I see these trends in allied investments, and the establishment of 
the NATO space policy, as providing the foundation for coordinating 
space domain investments in ISR and other space capabilities in ways 
that are analogous to what has been done in the air domain.
                        space force arctic bases
    7. Senator King. General Guetlein, my understanding is you have 
installations in pretty austere conditions, let me zero in on ones that 
are in arctic areas--the one that comes to mind is Pittufik Space Force 
Base, formerly Thule Space Force Base. Others are in my home State in 
Prospect Harbor and as well as large radar at Clear Space Force Base 
Alaska. At Pittufik my understanding is the extreme cold is impacting 
your ability to generate power and have adequate housing for your 
guardians. Can you describe what you are doing at Pittufik to ensure 
the infrastructure is maintained?
    General Guetlein. Pituffik Space Base, Greenland is an 
unaccompanied assignment and guardians and airmen live in dorms where 
there is a surplus of bed spaces. All dorms meet the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense (OSD)-required facility condition index.
    The Space Force prioritizes requirements through our own 
governance. Specifically, at Pituffik Space Base, a $310 million 
project was awarded in fiscal year 2024 to repair the power plant that 
directly supports the Upgraded Early Warning Radar (UEWR). 
Additionally, a $225 million project to replace the main power plant at 
Pituffik is programmed for fiscal year 2030. Furthermore, in fiscal 
year 2024 we will complete a $2.5 million arctic foundation repair on 
the mission control building that supports UEWR and a $24 million 
repair to a high-rise dormitory that houses permanent party personnel.
    The Department of the Air Force (DAF) Climate Action Plan drives 
the Space Force's climate and resilience strategy. We have the unique 
goal of employing a holistic approach to enterprise-wide solutions 
based on specific locations. Our strategy defines climate resilience as 
the ability to anticipate, prepare for, and respond to hazardous 
events, trends, or disturbances related to climate. To combat these 
growing threats, planners take into consideration the effects of 
climate and severe weather when planning for infrastructure resiliency 
in accordance with the DAF's Severe Weather and Climate Hazard 
Screening and Risk Assessment Playbook. To take full advantage of 
climate-informed decisions, the Space Force continually acquires 
improved extreme weather sensing solutions and develops expertise in 
the analysis of authoritative climate and extreme weather data. The 
department also continues to develop secure, digitally integrated 
infrastructure to minimize vulnerabilities and interruptions to our 
facility control systems, including power distribution. Our strategy 
maximizes the use of existing and future technology to improve our use 
of information to better protect our installations. By addressing 
challenges using a holistic enterprise approach we are better postured 
to leverage experience as we mature as a service. Because of the 
geographical separation between our installations, the Space Force must 
create customized climate and severe weather solutions based on 
specific locations. Space Force takes advantage of the planning process 
and standards set up by the DAF's severe weather playbook to help 
customize solutions to each threat based on location.

    8. Senator King. General Guetlein, can you describe what you are 
doing at Space Force installations and assets located in Alaska to 
ensure the infrastructure is maintained?
    General Guetlein. Because of the geographical separation between 
our installations, the Space Force must create customized climate and 
severe weather solutions based on specific locations. The Space Force 
takes advantage of the planning process and standards set up by the 
Department of the Air Force's (DAF's) severe weather playbook to help 
customize solutions to each threat based on location.
    At Clear Space Force Station, Alaska, a $72 million project was 
awarded in fiscal year 2023 to construct a new dormitory to support the 
new Long Range Discrimination Radar mission. Additionally, a $22 
million project was awarded in fiscal year 2024 to repair the utility 
piping in utilidors and in fiscal year 2028 we plan to construct a $6 
million new composite steam plant. All requirements will include 
climate informed decisions to make our installations more resilient. 
Furthermore, the DAF conducted an Energy Resilience Readiness Exercise 
(ERRE) at Clear SFS in fiscal year 2023 and plans to conduct another 
ERRE in fiscal year 2027. The ERREs are critical to aiding the DAF in 
determining infrastructure improvement opportunities to ensure 
operational mission readiness.

    9. Senator King. General Guetlein, what challenges do you have with 
maintaining infrastructure in the high north?
    General Guetlein. Base infrastructure across the northern tier is a 
central component to Space Forces' power projection. The climate of the 
High North region presents challenges to maintaining the service's 
infrastructure. To survive in the High North region, materials need to 
meet standards including high thermal efficiency, long-term durability, 
tolerance to repeated freeze and thaw cycles, and resistance to 
permafrost degradation.
    At Clear Space Force Station (SFS), a $72 million project was 
awarded in fiscal year 2023 to construct a new dormitory to support the 
new Long Range Discrimination Radar mission. Additionally, a $22 
million project was awarded in fiscal year 2024 to repair the utility 
piping in utilidors and in fiscal year 2028 we plan to construct a $6 
million new composite steam plant. All requirements will include 
climate informed decisions to make our installations more resilient. 
Furthermore, the Department of the Air Force (DAF) conducted an Energy 
Resilience Readiness Exercise (ERRE) at Clear SFS in fiscal year 2023 
and plans to conduct another ERRE in fiscal year 2027. The ERREs are 
critical to aiding the Department in determining infrastructure 
improvement opportunities to ensure operational mission readiness.
    At Pituffik Space Base, a $310 million project using Operations & 
Maintenance (O&M) funds was awarded in fiscal year 2024 to repair the 
power plant that directly supports the Upgraded Early Warning Radar 
(UEWR). Furthermore, in fiscal year 2024 we will complete a $2.5 
million arctic foundation repair on the mission control building that 
supports UEWR and a $24 million repair to a high-rise dormitory that 
houses permanent party personnel.
    By addressing challenges using a holistic enterprise approach we 
are better postured to leverage experience as we mature as a service. 
Because of the geographical separation between our installations, Space 
Force must create customized climate and severe weather solutions based 
on specific locations. Space Force takes advantage of the planning 
process and standards set up by the DAF's severe weather playbook to 
help customize solutions to each threat based on location.
                               __________
                Questions Submitted by Senator Jack Reed
                national security space launch phase iii
    10. Senator Reed. Secretary Calvelli, in an October 5, 2023 Space 
Systems Command (SSC) press release regarding National Security Space 
Launch Phase 3, you stated ``As we continue to drive speed in our 
acquisitions, National Security Space Launch (NSSL) Phase 3 is critical 
to our ability to put new space capabilities on orbit quickly. I am 
extremely proud of the SSC team and the innovative work they have done 
to define a new dual-lane approach to launch, and the addition of a 
third launch service provider in Lane 2. This next phase of the NSSL 
acquisition will serve the Nation well and allow us to further 
transform our space capabilities to outpace our competitors.'' Can you 
further explain how this will this launch strategy, which includes a 
third launch provider for higher energy orbits, will help the United 
States maintain our competitive advantage over our near peer 
adversaries?
    Secretary Calvelli. My number one priority is to put space 
capability in the hands of the warfighter when and where it is needed. 
To maintain a competitive advantage over our adversaries, we need 
launch resiliency. We structured the Phase 3 launch strategy to 
increase resiliency by giving us access to a diverse portfolio of 
launch providers and launch systems.
    The National Security Space Launch (NSSL) Phase 3 program is using 
an innovative dual-lane acquisition approach to fulfill NSSL program 
needs by competitively awarding two separate contract types. Lane 1 
provides access to diverse emerging commercial offerings for the more 
risk-tolerant missions using tailored mission assurance levels. Lane 2 
ensures assured access to space for the hardest, ``no-fail'' missions 
by placing a priority on meeting all NSSL requirements, including full 
government mission assurance with NSSL-certified launch vehicles. 
Having three providers in Lane 2 also secures national security launch 
capacity in the face of a growing commercial market.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
                                starlink
    11. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, in response to my questions about 
strategies to end illicit use of Starlink, you testified that ``Broader 
across the government, we can then develop strategies. Is it better to 
identify all the terminals that should be left on or should we identify 
terminals that should be turned off? Different types of approaches. We 
have done that with them.'' Specifically, which approach have you 
taken?
    Mr. Hill. We understand that SpaceX, in coordination with the 
United States Government, uses a hybrid approach that combines factors 
for which terminals should be ``left on'' and which terminals should be 
``turned off'' in seeking to prevent illicit use of Starlink terminals 
in Ukraine.

    12. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, does Starlink use a strategy in which 
they identify all terminals that should be left on, or do they identify 
terminals that should be turned off?
    Mr. Hill. We understand that SpaceX uses a hybrid approach to 
address illicit use of Starlink terminals in Ukraine. SpaceX has 
coordinated its approach with the United States Government, which 
includes routine monitoring in an effort to thwart suspected illicit 
users.

    13. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, does SpaceX have the capacity to 
identify if one of its Starlink terminals is being used in an illicit 
manner?
    Mr. Hill. We understand that SpaceX, in coordination with the U.S. 
Government, uses a hybrid approach that combines factors for which 
terminals should be ``left on'' and which terminals should be ``turned 
off'' in an effort to prevent illicit use of Starlink terminals. SpaceX 
performs these activities on a recurring basis without requiring 
consultation with the U.S. Government.

    14. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, has SpaceX shut off illicitly used 
Starlink terminals when identified and requested by the Department of 
Defense? If yes, how quickly have they done so?
    Mr. Hill. From our perspective, SpaceX has fully cooperated with 
the United States Government and the Government of Ukraine to support 
investigations and to deny service to suspected illicit users. SpaceX 
has a record of taking prompt action when illicit use is identified.

    15. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, is SpaceX identifying if its 
terminals are being used illicitly? How quickly are they disabling 
terminals once that illicit use is identified?
    Mr. Hill. We understand that SpaceX, in coordination with the U.S. 
Government, uses a hybrid approach that combines factors for which 
terminals should be ``left on'' and which terminals should be ``turned 
off'' in an effort to prevent illicit use of Starlink terminals. SpaceX 
has a record of taking prompt action when illicit use is identified.

    16. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, does the Department of Defense 
believe illicit use of Starlink terminals has helped any foreign 
adversaries identify vulnerabilities in those terminals or other 
commercial capabilities?
    Mr. Hill. Yes.

    17. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, does the Department of Defense 
believe illicit use of Starlink terminals has helped any foreign 
adversaries compromise or intercept NATO partner or Ukrainian 
communications?
    Mr. Hill. We have no evidence to suggest that illicit use of 
Starlink terminals has helped any foreign adversaries compromise or 
intercept NATO partner or Ukrainian communications.

    18. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, the Washington Post reported that 
Russian electronic jamming cutoff video feeds for Ukraine's 125th 
Territorial Defense Brigade. Who does the Department of Defense assess 
to be responsible for the jamming?
    Mr. Hill. We assess that Russian electronic jamming was responsible 
for the reported effects.

    19. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, is the Department of Defense able to 
share all of the information it receives about Starlink vulnerabilities 
or jamming with SpaceX?
    Mr. Hill. The Department of Defense works with the Intelligence 
Community to share with SpaceX, as appropriate, information received 
about Starlink vulnerabilities or jamming.

    20. Senator Warren. Mr. Hill, has the Department of Defense or 
SpaceX identified how to prevent future jamming of Starlink terminals? 
Has that fix been implemented?
    Mr. Hill. Russian electronic warfare techniques and capabilities 
will continue to evolve and adapt. The Department of Defense and its 
suppliers of commercial satellite communications services, including 
Starlink services, likewise are continuously identifying and 
implementing ways to operate through jamming environments.
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                       space launch capabilities
    21. Senator Cotton. General Guetlein, I am glad to see from your 
testimony that the number of commercial space launches on Federal 
ranges continues to increase, why is it important that the Department 
of the Air Force facilitate private-sector investment in our Nation's 
Federal launch ranges and how does the Department ensure that the 
commercial deployment of national security infrastructure on Federal 
ranges is not delayed by environmental approvals?
    General Guetlein. The Department of the Air Force (DAF) promotes 
partnerships with private sector companies, providing them access to 
develop and operate launch sites on Federal ranges to facilitate the 
expansion of launch technology, commercial sector development, and 
increased launch provider diversity. This collaboration allows industry 
to utilize government expertise and maximize the use of common 
infrastructure. The DAF ensures appropriate consideration of 
environmental protection as we grow and execute our missions largely 
through the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) planning process, 
ensuring collaborative decisionmaking with launch service providers and 
regulatory and permitting/licensing agencies, and obtaining public 
input. Environmental analyses and varying degrees of regulatory 
permitting are required for any new launch site operation regardless of 
location. For example, the DAF and Department of Defense must follow 
the procedural requirements under NEPA, preparing, managing, and 
documenting the appropriate analyses (such as Environmental Assessments 
and Environmental Impact Statements) to meet timelines to the greatest 
extent practicable. Public participation is a critical element of this 
process. The DAF makes every reasonable effort to collaborate and 
utilize its expertise as well as that of regulatory and permitting/
licensing agencies and launch service providers so that its 
environmental reviews are timely, efficient, thorough, and informed.

    22. Senator Cotton. General Guetlein, how does the Department of 
Air Force ensure that commercial operators can access accelerated 
environmental approvals for privately funded infrastructure 
improvements on Federal ranges that are in support of national security 
space launch capacity, and how can we ensure that environmental 
approval timelines for these activities are aligned with the threats we 
face from foreign adversaries?
    General Guetlein. There is an escalating demand for national 
security space launch capacity amid growing international threats. 
Compliance with mandatory Federal, State, and local environmental 
regulations limits the pace of completing environmental reviews for 
launch site development. The regulations often pose challenges for 
commercial operators in accessing accelerated environmental approvals 
for privately funded infrastructure improvements on Federal ranges. 
While some Federal environmental laws provide exemptions for national 
security needs, the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) does not, 
and the Department of the Air Force (DAF) must therefore abide by its 
requirements.
    The DAF remains committed to ensuring environmental review 
processes can meet the demands of launch activities while preserving 
necessary environmental protections. Although the DAF is typically the 
lead agency for environmental review of Space Force spaceport 
developments, we lack direct authority to change or remove other 
agencies' environmental requirements including State, regional, and 
local requirements authorized by Federal legislation. DAF resources 
necessary to support coordination with other agencies, particularly for 
commercial (Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)-licensed) launch 
activity, become increasingly complex and time-consuming due to 
increasing launch demand.
   tactical datalinks from space between air, land, and sea platforms
    23. Senator Cotton. General Guetlein, do you have the spectrum 
authority today you need to develop, test, and operationally use on-
orbit tactical datalinks, such as Link-16, in congested parts of the 
spectrum for daily and regular training with other Department of 
Defense land, air, sea platforms?
    General Guetlein. The Department of Defense (DOD) does not have the 
spectrum authority needed to test and operate space-based Link-16. The 
DOD is currently limited to testing and operating the Link-16 systems 
it has on orbit in international waters and over some parts of 
Australia via International Telecommunication Union (ITU) waivers 
granted by the National Telecommunications and Information 
Administration (NTIA). This authorization is set to expire at the end 
of Calendar Year 2024. As testing and operational use are restricted to 
these test sites, it limits the ability of the DOD to test, evaluate, 
and integrate space-based Link-16 into training events reducing the 
``training-as-we-fight'' concept.

    24. Senator Cotton. General Guetlein, in your best military advice, 
what policies today slow down your ability to rapidly certify and use 
tactical datalinks or communication systems?
    General Guetlein. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
requires all Link-16 equipped systems to complete Electromagnetic 
Compatibility Features (EMCF) validation before any testing over the 
United States. The National Telecommunications and Information 
Administration has the authority to allow testing, but it has deferred 
to the FAA. This FAA requirement for full EMCF validation by the 
Department of Defense (DOD), often a multi-year process, ahead of 
testing extends the timeline to field all Link-16 equipped weapon 
systems. The requirement to complete EMCF validation before conducting 
on-orbit testing over the United States add at least a year to fielding 
these tactical space-based systems. With no authorities to test and 
operationalize space-based Link-16, development of Tactics, Techniques, 
and Procedures (TTPs) has been restricted and available DOD combat 
power has been reduced. The FAA has previously granted a Temporary 
Frequency Assignment (TFA) for the purpose of testing terrestrial Link-
16 systems without EMCF validation. The Department would welcome 
similar opportunities to test space-based Link-16 systems domestically.
    Another policy impediment is the lack of a national or 
international allocation for space-based Link-16. Lack of an allocation 
for space-based Link-16 complicates all spectrum allocation efforts for 
these systems even if the radios are nearly identical to Link-16 radios 
fielded on airframes. The first step is for the National 
Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) to provide 
space-based Link-16 an allocation in their Manual of Regulations and 
Procedures for Federal Radio Frequency Spectrum Management. Then the 
United States could pursue an international allocation for space-based 
Link-16 through the World Radiocommunications Conference.

    25. Senator Cotton. Secretary Calvelli, you mentioned in your 
opening statement that the Space Development Agency demonstrated Link-
16 from space, but is this a just demo or is it a capability with a 
clear path to fielding; and if the later, what is the plan to fully 
certify transmit and receive of Link-16 over the United States National 
Airspace System and field it as soon as possible so that all joint 
platforms can benefit?
    Secretary Calvelli. The Space Development Agency (SDA)'s 
Proliferated Warfighter Space Architecture (PWSA) Tranche 0 
constellation is designed to serve as a warfighter immersion layer to 
expose the operational community to the tremendous value of space-based 
Link-16 and develop a path to full fielding of the capability. Link-16 
demonstrations conducted overseas using Tranche 0 satellites will lead 
to the operational deployment of Link-16 as part of Tranche 1, which 
will field 126 Link-16 equipped satellites in 2025 to support 
persistent regional access to space-based Link-16. This operational 
access will be further expanded in 2027 with the deployment of Tranche 
2 which will provide global access to space-based Link-16. Current 
analysis and on orbit testing of Tranche 0 Link-16 assets has shown no 
harmful interference to aeronautical systems. SDA is working with the 
military Services and Combatant Commands to develop the doctrine, 
organization, training, materiel, leadership and education, personnel, 
and facilities (DOTMLPF) for operationalizing space-based Link-16.

    26. Senator Cotton. Secretary Calvelli, I am led to believe that 
the Space Development Agency tranche 0 and tranche 1 communication 
satellites were required to test their Link-16 tactical datalink 
capability in Australia because the Federal Aviation Administration 
would not work with the Space Force; is this true?
    Secretary Calvelli. The Department of the Air Force (DAF) is 
working with the National Telecommunications and Information 
Administration (NTIA), Department of Transportation, and the Federal 
Aviation Administration (FAA) to meet the various requirements to gain 
authorization for the Space Development Agency (SDA) to test space-
based Link-16 systems in the United States. SDA obtained approval to 
perform the Tranche 0 tests in Australia and in international waters 
after the FAA denied a temporary authorization for very limited testing 
over a United States military test range without first successfully 
completing the Electromagnetic Compatibility Features (EMCF) 
validation. SDA asked the FAA to waive this requirement by proposing 
restricted domestic tests during times when civil air traffic is 
limited, but FAA sees the EMCF validation as essential. SDA currently 
plans to test all Tranche 0 and Tranche 1 Link-16 systems outside of 
the U.S. National Airspace System.

    27. Senator Cotton. Secretary Hill, what is the Department of 
Defense leadership doing to advocate for the full certification of 
Link-16 transmit and receive from space given the ongoing roadblocks 
from the Federal Aviation Administration and outdated policies not in 
compliance with Section 228 of the Fiscal Year 2024 National Defense 
Authorization Act?
    Mr. Hill. The requirements and methodologies to meet the Federal 
Aviation Administration's (FAA) Electromagnetic Compatibility Features 
(EMCF) validation were unchanged by Section 228 of the National Defense 
Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024. The FAA continues to require 
full EMCF validation of each Link-16 system before it will provide 
authorization for domestic testing or operation.
    The Department of Defense (DOD) requires FAA authorization to test 
and operate space-based Link-16 within the United States. Due to FAA 
restrictions that prevent broadcasting Link-16 from space into the U.S. 
National Airspace System, the DOD is limited to testing and operating 
the Link-16 systems it has on orbit in international waters and over 
approved areas of partner nations via International Telecommunication 
Union (ITU) waivers granted by the National Telecommunications and 
Information Administration (NTIA). Using one such waiver, the Space 
Development Agency (SDA) successfully demonstrated the first-ever Link 
16 network entry through space to ground connection from low Earth 
orbit (LEO) to a series of receivers using terrestrial radios during 
three demonstrations held November 21-27, 2023. However, restricting 
testing and operational use to these sites limits the ability of the 
DOD to test, evaluate, and integrate space-based Link-16 into training 
events. Further, the current test waiver is set to expire at the end of 
2024.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                          multiyear block buys
    28. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Calvelli, according to the April 
2022 Department of Defense (DOD)--Selected Acquisition Report (SAR) 
that was sent to Congress: ``The Phase 2 competitive acquisition award 
adds to the considerable savings the NNSL [National Security Space 
Launch] program has achieved since the 2013 Phase 1 Block Buy contract 
award. The NSSL program garnered these savings by creating new 
acquisition strategies, procuring launch services in economic order 
quantities, and fostering robust competition precipitated by 
investments in new commercial launch systems that also meet more 
stressing NSSL needs.'' Moreover, the NSSL program has returned 
approximately $7 billion to the warfighter, allowing the Air Force, 
Space Force, and National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) to fund 
additional, much-needed capabilities. During the House Armed Services 
Hearing hearing couple weeks ago, Mr. Calvelli noted that the Space 
Force utilized multi-year Block Buys in Phase 2 and lane 2 for Phase 3, 
but stopped short of commenting on whether multi-year block buys will 
be the standard in future procurements. Given the success they have had 
in the past and the benefits they have brought to the industrial base, 
can you confirm that multi-year block buys will continue to be utilized 
in all future procurements for NSSL beyond Phase 3?
    Secretary Calvelli. Block buy contracting strategies, coupled with 
re-introducing competition into National Security Space Launch (NSSL), 
has yielded tremendous savings and other benefits. We awarded the first 
NSSL Phase 3 Lane 1 On-Ramp in June 2024, and we anticipate awarding 
Lane 2 contracts by this fall. After Lane 2 is awarded, the Space Force 
will continue to assess the commercial market, NSSL future needs, and 
lessons learned/best practices from Phase 3 to shape future acquisition 
strategies.



DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 
               2025 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        WEDNESDAY, MAY 22, 2024

                  United States Senate,    
          Subcommittee on Strategic Forces,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY'S ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES AND 
             DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE NUCLEAR WEAPONS PROGRAMS

    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 4:50 p.m. in 
room SR-222, Russell Senate Office Building, Senator Angus King 
(Chairman of the Subcommittee) presiding.
    Subcommittee Members present: Senators King, Rosen, Kelly, 
and Fischer.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR ANGUS KING

    Senator King. This hearing on the Department of Energy 
Atomic Energy Defense Programs, and Department of Defense 
Nuclear Weapons Programs of the Armed Services Committee 
Subcommittee on Strategic Forces will come to order. I want to 
thank our witnesses for appearing here today and for their 
service to our Nation.
    I first want to welcome Admiral Houston, our eighth 
director of Naval Reactors to the subcommittee, and we look 
forward to hearing from you over the next 8 years. Thank you, 
Admiral. Congratulations.
    Today's hearing consists of two panels to review the budget 
request for Defense nuclear activities at the Department of 
Energy and the Department of Defense. We're undertaking now our 
third era of nuclear modernization. The first two were 
conducted in 1960, and 1980, mainly in a situation of 
competition with the Soviet Union. However, now we face two 
heavily nuclear armed near peer competitors, Russia and China.
    More than ever, we're relying on modernizing our triad to 
perform the deterrence mission, the deterrence mission which is 
the bedrock of our National Security Strategy. This year, we 
were informed that there is a Nunn-McCurdy breach of the 
Sentinel ICBM [intercontinental ballistic missile] replacement 
program.
    General Bussiere, I will want to know how your command is 
investigating this issue. Administrator Hruby, pit production 
cost continues to climb at the Savannah River Plant and I look 
forward to your telling us how you're tracking and working on 
containing them. Mr. White, you perhaps have the toughest job 
of all managing the largest liability of the Federal Government 
which in 2023 was estimated at $531 billion.
    I want to know what you are doing to work your way through 
this backlog of cleanup and whether there are less costly 
methods to dispose of some of the tank waste at Hanford while 
still meeting our commitments to the State and to the 
environment.
    Because we have two panels, I would appreciate if you could 
make short 2- to 3-minute opening statements. We'll have 5-
minute rounds of questions. Again, welcome to the Committee, 
and thank you for your service.
    Senator Fischer.

                STATEMENT OF SENATOR DEB FISCHER

    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all of our witnesses for being here today.
    Our nuclear deterrent underpins our entire National 
Security Strategy and it must remain safe, reliable, effective, 
and credible. We face two peer nuclear adversaries for the 
first time in history. While our current nuclear weapons and 
delivery systems meet the threats of today. I'm increasingly 
concerned that our planned force posture for the 2030's and 
beyond will be insufficient. We need to start laying the 
groundwork today to set the conditions for success in the 
future.
    I look forward to hearing from the witnesses on both panels 
on the progress being made with current programs of record and 
what additional resources or authorities are needed to 
accelerate that progress.
    I would also like to note that last year's report from the 
Bipartisan Strategic Posture Commission included 81 
recommendations that I believe laid out an excellent framework 
for this Nation to revitalize our entire nuclear enterprise. 
Senator King and I worked together on a bill, the Restoring 
American Deterrence Act that encapsulates many of these 
recommendations.
    I look forward to working with all of our panelists over 
the coming months as we seek to implement some of those 
changes.
    Thank you again for joining us today, and thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Senator King. Administrator Hruby.

  STATEMENT OF MS. JILL M. HRUBY, ADMINISTRATOR OF THE NATION 
                NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    Administrator Hruby. Well, thank you. Chairman King, 
Ranking Member Fischer, it's a pleasure to be here to present 
the President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request for the 
Department of Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration 
[NNSA].
    In today's complex and dynamic security environment, NNSA 
is delivering. Last year we provided the Department of Defense 
over 200 modernized weapons on schedule. Our nuclear non-
proliferation and counter-terrorism programs are advancing 
technologies and partnerships that are responsive to today's 
global environment. We are preparing for the future by 
revitalizing our infrastructure and staying at the cutting edge 
in select science and technology.
    NNSA's fiscal year 2025 budget request of $25 billion 
reflects these priorities. The nuclear weapons program of 
record has grown from five to seven systems to be delivered or 
in active production within the next decade. This request 
supports all those systems with the exception of SLCM-N [Sea-
Launched Cruise Missile-Nuclear] just due to the timing of the 
2025 budget request and the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA.
    However, NNSA is fully committed to fulfilling the SLCM-N 
requirement. These seven systems represent modernized weapons 
for all three legs of the Triad and the new capabilities 
responsive to today's security environment. Additionally, the 
request supports two phase one studies to prepare to meet 
future deterrent needs.
    To deliver this demanding schedule, NNSA is prioritizing 
infrastructure investments to get needed capabilities completed 
on time while also pursuing a longer-term strategy of a 
responsive, flexible, and resilient enterprise. High priority 
projects include the pit production facilities at Los Alamos 
and Savannah River.The uranium and lithium processing 
facilities at Y-12. Our defense nuclear nonproliferation 
activities are also responding to today's global dynamic and 
anticipating the future.
    In summary, NNSA's is holistically supporting nuclear 
deterrence and strengthening relationships with our allies and 
partners. There's a lot of work ahead and we appreciate your 
support. Thank you.
    I look forward to your questions.
    Chairman King. Thank you, Administrator Hruby.
    Admiral Houston.

     STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL WILLIAM J. HOUSTON, USN, DEPUTY 
   ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE OFFICE OF NAVAL REACTORS, NATIONAL 
                NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    Admiral Houston. Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, 
distinguished Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today. Your support for the Naval 
Reactors enables my team to design, operate, and maintain a 
globally deployed force of submarines and aircraft carriers 
that reliably and consistently carry out our national security 
missions around the world.
    Today, the U.S. Navy's nuclear power warships are operating 
alongside our allies and partners in hostile regions, providing 
forward presence, and safeguarding stability in a world that is 
increasingly tense. Our global presence continues to be 
supported by strong allies and relationships through the AUKUS 
[Australia, United Kingdom, United States] agreement.
    The United States, United Kingdom, and Australia have 
demonstrated a trilateral commitment to free and open Indo-
Pacific region while expanding the region of effectiveness of 
all three nations' military forces. Naval Reactors has 
delivered the advanced technology that provides our fleet 
competitive edge in the maritime environment through investment 
in research and development in the past decades.
    Our talented people, our peerless technology, and our 
state-of-the-art facilities give us the ability to operate 
submarines and carriers wherever and whenever we choose. We 
must step up this investment if we want to sustain and exploit 
that advantage. My budget request for fiscal year 2025 is $2.12 
billion and invest in each of the following three areas, and 
two priority projects.
    First, my request supports our most important resource, our 
people. The talented and dedicated people within the Naval 
Nuclear Propulsion Enterprise are essential to the management 
and oversight of the important work we perform for our Nation. 
Second, the budget reflects continued investment in R&D 
[research and development] of technology to support our current 
and future fleet, to substantially lower costs, reduce 
construction timelines, and add fleet capability. Finally, my 
request focus on investment to modernize the critical 
infrastructure throughout our 70-plus-year Department of Energy 
Laboratories and address our legacy environmental liabilities.
    I'm also seeking your continued support for two national 
priority projects. The first continued development of the 
reactor plan for the Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine 
directly supporting the Navy's number one acquisition priority. 
The second project is continued construction of the naval spent 
fuel handling facility in Idaho which enables long-term 
reliable processing and packaging of spent fuel from the Navy's 
nuclear fleet.
    In closing, your strong and enduring support enables Naval 
Reactors to provide the Nation and nuclear power fleet that is 
unrivaled. I respectfully urge your endorsement of our fiscal 
year 2025 budget request. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral William Houston 
follows:]

             Prepared Statement by Admiral William Houston
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you 
today and present the President's Fiscal Year 2025 Budget for Naval 
Reactors. Your continued, strong support for the unique mission and 
successful execution of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program enables 
our nuclear Navy to carry out vital missions around the world, at any 
time, in response to global events.
    In my first year of an 8-year tenure as Director of Naval Reactors, 
the program continues to celebrate the 75th anniversary of delivering 
naval nuclear propulsion for the Nation and powering maritime 
dominance. I have spent the first several months meeting our experts 
and touring the laboratories, nuclear capable shipyards, and facilities 
that ensure safe and effective operation of the Program's cradle to 
grave responsibilities. I look forward to continuing improve upon the 
solid foundation that Admiral Rickover and my predecessors have built 
and maintained.
    With identification of the formal requirement for a nuclear powered 
submarine in 1948, the Nation embarked on a path that continues today. 
We train nuclear operators, rely on and shepherd the nuclear industrial 
base, and employ nuclear shipyards with the same rigor and passion as 
those early days. The Program began with no certainty of success, but 
under the leadership of Admiral Rickover and with tremendous 
congressional support, we, alongside our most capable allies, remain 
the dominant force in naval nuclear propulsion. Today, Naval Reactors 
is engaged in a tireless pursuit of new technologies, new materials, 
innovative designs and adaptive approaches toward keeping our nuclear-
powered submarines and aircraft carriers at sea longer, with enhanced 
warfighting capabilities. Our potential adversaries are also dedicated 
in their pursuits. Your partnership and leadership together with the 
Department of Energy and the Navy is needed now, more than ever, as we 
work on naval nuclear propulsion that will power our fleet and protect 
the national security of the United States throughout the remainder of 
this century.
    Today's strategic environment is rapidly changing and complex. The 
global balance of military capabilities is evolving, but the Naval 
Nuclear Propulsion Program is in place and answering the challenge. Our 
actions today will impact the security and prosperity of our Nation for 
generations. As I enter my tenure at Naval Reactors, I will ensure that 
we sustain and improve our principal naval warfighting advantage and 
maintain our supremacy in the maritime battlespace. That supremacy 
cannot be taken for granted and it is not the sole purview of the 
United States.
    Consistent with the National Security Strategy and the National 
Defense Strategy, it is vital for the Navy to maintain and expand our 
competitive advantage by aggressively investing in emerging 
technologies. The principal strategic issues driving the need for 
urgent technological advancements are embedded in the growing security 
threat from China and Russia. China continues to advance and establish 
an expanding naval presence, projecting power and challenging United 
States maritime superiority in new arenas. Meanwhile, Russia poses an 
immediate threat to free and open international systems and sovereign 
rights, relying on coercive practices to pursue an edge over the United 
States and our allies. To properly defend against these threats, 
nuclear-powered submarines and aircraft carriers with greater 
capability, firepower, and endurance will be required. Technology for 
the next generation of nuclear propulsion must be developed today in 
order to be ready to deliver the increased speed, improved stealth, and 
enhanced warfighting capabilities needed to retain our advantage. From 
concept to production, our focus on technologies and processes that can 
reduce the build span times and costs of these platforms is essential 
to delivering more ships, faster. In addition to our own efforts, 
leveraging the technical expertise and resources of our allies and 
partners remains a key advantage and greatly complicates our 
adversaries planning.
    For the last several years, diplomatic, and congressional leaders 
have been developing, coordinating, and planning to execute the 
Australia, United Kingdom, and the United States (AUKUS) tri-lateral 
security partnership. The AUKUS partnership bolsters our own 
shipbuilding capability through uplift of our industrial and vendor 
base capacity, and builds upon over a half century of collaboration 
with the United Kingdom on naval nuclear propulsion. Operational, 
rotational deployments of US Navy submarines through the Submarine 
Rotational Force--West and ultimately the operation of Australian 
conventionally armed, nuclear-powered submarines throughout the Indo-
Pacific region, are efforts supported fully through the United States 
Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program. Given the global threats we face, it 
is imperative that we work with our closest allies to improve their 
capabilities and expand their reach in the undersea domain. Development 
and planning for AUKUS is resulting in tangible outputs this year, 
enabled by necessary investments from our foreign partners, but 
supported by Naval Reactors' core mission and activities funded in our 
DOE budget. We remain concentrated on providing nuclear propulsion to 
retain the US Navy's maritime dominance, while also leveraging our 75 
years of preeminence in naval nuclear propulsion to support U.S. 
commitments under AUKUS. Our continued success rests on the foundation 
of prior efforts but is only sustained in what we build and prioritize 
today.
                        naval reactors overview
    Naval Reactors' budget request for fiscal year 2025 is $2.12 
billion, an 8.9 percent increase over the fiscal year 2024 enacted 
level. \1\ Your support has also facilitated the continued safe 
operation of the nuclear fleet, along with the unmatched protection of 
the Sailors operating our ships, the workers maintaining our ships, and 
the public and environment through our continued, focused, regulatory 
oversight of the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program, documented in our 
annual performance reports available via the Department of Energy 
webpage. Previous congressional support has allowed significant 
progress on three major Department of Energy funded projects--Columbia-
class propulsion plant development and production, construction of the 
Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility in Idaho, and completion of the 
refueling overhaul of our research and training reactor in New York. In 
the coming years, Naval Reactors will complete these projects and I 
look forward to keeping the committee updated as we move through each. 
For example, we have made substantial progress with Columbia-class 
propulsion plants in support of the lead ship construction and are 
entering serial production of the life-of-ship cores. The Program also 
continues to make progress amid challenges during construction of the 
incredibly important Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility, and I will 
provide a full update later in my statement. Finally, the refueling 
overhaul of our research and training reactor will complete later this 
year, and nuclear operator training will resume in New York early next 
year.
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    \1\ Fiscal year 2024 Enacted amounts throughout this testimony do 
not reflect the mandated transfer of $92.8 million from Naval Reactors 
to the Office of Nuclear Energy for operation of the Advanced Test 
Reactor.
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    While we are staying focused on completing these near term efforts, 
we also continue to invest and plan for the long-term future of naval 
nuclear propulsion. Naval Reactors remains engaged under DOE and NNSA's 
leadership to ensure a future uranium enrichment capability to support 
national security requirements, including naval nuclear propulsion into 
the next century. Through the support of Congress, we continue to 
develop and pursue advanced technologies and recapitalize 
infrastructure across all four of our Naval Nuclear Laboratory sites. 
Notably, at the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho, the Expended Core 
Facility continues to provide our Program the capability to manage 
spent nuclear fuel, and perform core and post-irradiation examinations. 
However, this facility is over 60 years old and Naval Reactors is 
executing a plan to exit the facility by transitioning capabilities out 
in stages, the first being spent fuel management, which will transition 
to the Naval Spent Fuel Handling Facility in the late 2020's. This 
budget request initiates the next stage in that exit strategy by 
requesting funding to begin the second infrastructure project that will 
transition core examinations out of the Expended Core Facility. Even 
further out, a future irradiation testing capability will be vital to 
the Naval Reactors program. DOE, NNSA and NR are working on a long-
range plan for such a capability beyond 2040.
                             major projects
Columbia-class Propulsion Plant
    The Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine remains the Navy's 
number one acquisition priority. Naval Reactors is delivering the life-
of-ship reactor core and the electric drive propulsion system for the 
Columbia-class. To date, lead ship reactor plant components have been 
delivered on time and the reactor core is on track to support lead ship 
delivery. The fiscal year 2025 budget includes $45.6 million to 
continue reactor plant design, fabrication, and safety analysis work 
required for lead ship reactor testing. Additionally, Naval Reactors 
will soon commence lead ship motor module testing of the electric drive 
propulsion system at the compatibility test facility in Philadelphia, 
PA.
Spent Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project
    Naval Reactors is continuing construction of the Naval Spent Fuel 
Handling Facility at the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho. The Naval 
Spent Fuel Handling Facility is essential to our mission to manage 
naval spent nuclear fuel in support of aircraft carrier and submarine 
fleet requirements. The fiscal year 2025 budget request includes $292 
million for continuation of this project through near-term milestones 
including erection of structural steel for the main process building, 
construction of the reinforced concrete spent fuel pools, and 
installation of utility systems. During the last several years, the 
project has encountered a number of challenges. Specifically, the 
COVID-19 pandemic introduced work delays and additional costs for the 
Project's active and planned construction subcontracts due to volatile 
market conditions. Most recently, we worked through subcontractor 
performance issues and the effects of limited competition for 
construction subcontracts in Idaho resulting in a revised acquisition 
plan for a major construction subcontract and additional funding 
requirements. Funding in fiscal year 2025 will be vital to continuing 
the construction sequence and achieving the Project's milestones. Naval 
Reactors remains committed to keeping the Committee informed of 
progress on this complex and large-scale infrastructure project.
Naval Examination Acquisition Project (NEAP)
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request represents the first year of 
Major Construction Project construction funding to begin the detailed 
design phase for the Naval Examination Acquisition Project, which will 
recapitalize and transition the core examinations capability out of the 
Expended Core Facility. Core examinations are critical to current fleet 
operations as they allow scientists and engineers to compare actual, 
measured core performance data to expected performance predicted by 
models and various testing programs during design and manufacture. More 
specifically, these examinations provide feedback to validate and 
deliver safe and unrestricted fleet operations throughout the decades-
long lifespans for which we have designed the cores. Without these 
examinations, current fleet operations may be conservatively restricted 
or reduced when issues arise so that sufficient conservatism is 
maintained to protect the crew, the core and the environment. In 
addition to directly informing current fleet operations, core 
examinations provide critical feedback for future designs to improve 
performance, manufacturability, and efficiency of our cores. Funding in 
fiscal year 2025 enables the Program to begin the several-year detailed 
design phase to prepare for construction. We are incorporating lessons 
learned from the Spent Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project and are 
engaged with the NNSA and DOE on the outlook of infrastructure, 
especially in Idaho, to ensure the project is best positioned for 
success. I look forward to providing an update as we come through the 
design phase of the project.
                         technical base funding
    In addition to our three priority projects, Naval Reactors 
maintains a world-class, high-performing workforce across the technical 
base providing 24/7 year-round support of the cradle-to-grave 
operations of our naval nuclear enterprise. The technical base is the 
set of fundamental skills and capabilities necessary to safely and 
effectively support the nuclear Navy. It includes a foundation of 
specialists in nuclear materials, nuclear physics, thermal-hydraulics 
testing, acoustics, electronics, software development, systems 
integration, and other specialized skills, along with the associated 
facilities and laboratories to conduct our work.
    The people and activities that make up our technical base perform 
essential work to support the operating fleet and set the foundations 
for our Navy to retain its technological advantages over our 
competitors. Specifically, the technical base: 1) addresses emergent, 
daily needs and challenges of our globally deployed nuclear fleet, 2) 
executes cutting edge technology research and development that supports 
improving today's nuclear fleet and assessing future naval nuclear 
propulsion capabilities, and 3) modernizes critical infrastructure and 
equipment while reducing the Program's legacy environmental 
liabilities.
    Attracting and retaining top talent in our government civilian and 
contract workforce is critical to our ability to fulfill and mature our 
mission amidst a wide array of challenges and new demands. The broad 
range of talent in our organization is in high demand from all areas of 
our economy. We remain focused on recruiting and retaining a well-
trained, highly qualified workforce and continue to work with the 
leadership of our laboratories, private shipyards, Navy, and DOE to 
stay competitive in this aggressive talent market.
Program Direction
    Our lean and highly skilled Federal workforce is critical to the 
execution of our responsibilities. With the fiscal year 2025 Program 
Direction request of $62.8 million, we remain dedicated to attracting, 
developing, and retaining a talented and diverse workforce to oversee 
and manage work across the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program. The 
talented and dedicated people at our Washington, DC headquarters and 
field offices around the world report directly to me and are essential 
to our strong, centralized management model and oversight of the 
important work we perform every single day.
    Supporting the life-cycles of several classes of nuclear-powered 
ships whose lifetimes can extend over half a century requires staffing 
continuity and longevity to ensure the Nation has a workforce with the 
deep technical knowledge to execute Naval Reactors' cradle-to-grave 
responsibilities. I must have sufficient Federal staffing to meet the 
demands of sustaining and improving today's fleet while simultaneously 
growing our future capabilities. Diverse, complex systems, new and 
innovative research efforts, and growing cyber and other 
vulnerabilities require maintaining and then developing additional 
workforce expertise within our human capital strategy. Recruiting, 
rewarding, and retaining our workforce at our full personnel 
requirements is the fundamental enabler of all aspects of naval nuclear 
propulsion.
    The market demand for our highly skilled and experienced workforce 
introduces challenges to recruit and retain a top-tier workforce that 
values its contribution to national defense. In concert with our 
ongoing focus on research and development, we are implementing new ways 
to bring in and retain the Nation's top talent at Naval Reactors and 
give them resources to introduce technical innovations into our 
submarines and aircraft carriers. I respectfully request Congress' 
support of the fiscal year 2025 Program Direction budget request, which 
will allow me to recruit, select, develop, and retain a highly skilled 
workforce to support mission requirements.
Research and Development
    Our research and development strategy remains focused on 
strengthening a vulnerable competitive advantage over strategic 
adversaries like China and Russia. Technology investment must be 
prioritized and sustained today to develop new technologies that 
deliver increased capability, and reduce costs, lead times and 
construction spans for both the current and future nuclear powered 
fleet. Throughout the United States, important research and development 
is conducted by the dedicated and talented teams of people at our Naval 
Nuclear Laboratory sites--the Bettis Atomic Power Laboratory in 
Pittsburgh, the Knolls Atomic Power Laboratory and Kesselring Site in 
greater Albany, and the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho.
    Our first priority is to support today's fleet of nuclear powered 
forces. Our labs perform thousands of technical evaluations annually 
that enable Naval Reactors to assess and respond to emergent issues, 
keep our ships mission-ready, safe to operate, and deployable anywhere, 
any time.
    Several years ago Naval Reactors began an effort to reinvigorate 
investment in advanced technology development for the next generation 
of nuclear powered ships and submarines. Today, we are pursuing 
advanced reactor core and fuel systems, advanced manufacturing and 
inspection techniques, next-generation propulsion plant equipment, 
including instrumentation and control systems and sensors and 
asymmetrical applications of emerging technologies. These advancements 
take time to materialize but today's strategic environment requires a 
renewed sense of urgency in leveraging exploratory methods to shorten 
development timelines, lower acquisition and lifecycle costs and 
improve adaptability. I invite you to visit our facilities with your 
staffs, talk with our onsite experts and enhance your understanding of 
how we are delivering nuclear propulsion capability.
    I want to assure the committee that our investments are supported 
by a comprehensive and rigorous planning effort we undertake with our 
partners at the Naval Nuclear Laboratory. This year's budget request 
has been meticulously developed and prioritized to meet our required 
investment needs to stay ahead of our adversaries.
Facilities and Infrastructure
    Our Naval Nuclear Laboratory facilities and infrastructure are 
essential in carrying out Naval Reactors' mission. This year's budget 
request supports recapitalization of Naval Nuclear Laboratory 
facilities and infrastructure systems, many of which have supported the 
Program since its inception, 75 years ago.
    Decontaminating and decommissioning (D&D) older facilities that 
have been in existence since the early 1950's is also part of our 
facilities and infrastructure request. We have approximately $6.4 
billion in environmental liabilities requiring D&D efforts. A 
significant portion of this estimate is associated with the cost to 
remediate and demolish inactive facilities and infrastructure at the 
Naval Nuclear Laboratory sites.
    We continue to retire liabilities in an environmentally responsible 
and cost-effective manner to support best use of our funding. Through 
our established partnership with the Department of Energy Office of 
Environmental Management (DOE-EM), we are leveraging their experience 
in efficient, safe, and cost-effective remediation of environmental 
liabilities across the enterprise. DOE-EM is active on all four of our 
sites with impressive efforts taking place, such as the D&D of our 
legacy prototypes at the Naval Reactors Facility, including the S1W 
prototype that supported development of the USS Nautilus (SSN 571), 
which will complete dismantlement in fiscal year 2025.
                                 aukus
    In September 2021, President Biden announced an enhanced trilateral 
security partnership between Australia, the United Kingdom, and the 
United States (AUKUS). Concrete steps are underway to support Australia 
acquiring conventionally armed nuclear-powered submarines (SSNs) and 
Naval Reactors remains integral in informing discussions to ensure that 
our Nation's preeminent expertise is applied to the nuclear-powered 
submarine initiative.
    Efforts are focused on ensuring Australia acquires full scope of 
capabilities necessary to build, operate, and maintain a nuclear navy. 
Additionally, we are concurrently executing the process of providing a 
generational uplift in technology to the United Kingdom in support of 
delivering SSN-AUKUS. We will increasingly utilize the trilateral 
partners' existing and evolving regulatory frameworks, educational, 
industrial, and technical capabilities and capacities to collectively 
strengthen each nation's defense. Naval Reactors is fully committed to 
supporting Australia in the development of its stewardship and 
technical capabilities. Going forward, all three of our naval nuclear 
propulsion programs will be inextricably linked, and remain committed 
to ensuring the highest standards of stewardship for this complex and 
unforgiving technology.
    AUKUS is a significant addition to Naval Reactors' existing 
mission, with activities funded through reimbursable agreements with 
Australia and the U.K. I am committed to work productively with our 
partner nations, the Administration and Congress to ensure the 
necessary and enduring investment is made for this critical endeavor to 
succeed. Naval Reactors must continue to deliver its primary mission to 
the United States Navy without compromise, as it is foundational to 
being able to support the AUKUS objectives
                               conclusion
    The United States .Navy's ability to maintain our 75-year dominance 
of the maritime domain and sustain a formidable forward presence is not 
guaranteed; every day we are being actively challenged on a global 
scale. Naval nuclear propulsion is an incredible but unforgiving 
technology, and must be harnessed with a constant focus on safe 
operation across the cradle-to-grave responsibilities the Nation 
entrusts to Naval Reactors. The Program is dedicated to balancing 
investments in today's fleet with future fleet requirements, while 
delivering effective naval nuclear propulsion for the U.S. Navy. I 
appreciate the strong support of Congress for this program and 
respectfully urge your full support for our fiscal year 2025 budget 
request.

    Senator King. Thank you, Admiral.
    Mr. White, you must have one of the toughest jobs in 
Federal Government. Give us an update.

      STATEMENT OF MR. WILLIAM WHITE, SENIOR ADVISOR FOR 
         ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY

    Mr. White. Thank you, Senator.
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer. It's an honor to 
appear before you. The EM [Environmental Management] mission 
reflects the United States' commitment to cleaning up the 
environmental legacy of national defense programs that helped 
in World War II and the cold war. While our mission is rooted 
in the past, we're very much focused on the future.
    Cleanup progress at the Savannah Riverside in South 
Carolina, for example, is leading to a greater role for NNSA 
there. Cleanup accomplishments are boosting the clean energy 
economy in Tennessee and helping the Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security complex prepare for 
expanding national security and research missions.
    As buildings like the Biology Complex have come down, 
national security and science missions have the space to be 
built up. The budget request positions EM to deliver on these 
and other priorities that drive risk reduction, progress 
skyline changes, and help us ramp up tank waste treatment which 
is the largest part of the environmental liability that you 
mentioned earlier.
    In Washington, 800,000 gallons of tank waste have been 
treated at Hanford and will ultimately be stabilized in glass. 
The waste treatment plant melters have reached operational 
temperature and have been used to pour the first containers of 
test glass from both melters. The Test Bed Initiative is 
advancing as another potential option to accelerate the Hanford 
Tank Waste mission through commercial grouting and disposal.
    In parallel, we've reached a breakthrough agreement with 
the State of Washington and the EPA [Environmental Protection 
Agency] that charts the safe and achievable path for the 
Hanford Tank Waste mission. The fiscal year 2025 request is 
consistent with this agreement which will enable us to begin 
addressing Hanford's high-level tank waste and achieve risk 
reduction while exploring alternative treatment technologies to 
accelerate our work on EM's largest environmental liability.
    By turning this corner with our regulatory partners, we 
hope to aggressively move forward with our mission at Hanford, 
honoring our responsibility to the environment and our 
commitment to the communities and the tribal nations around the 
site. Demolition efforts across EM are also moving forward.
    After bringing down four buildings at the Nevada National 
Security site last year, we'll continue reducing our footprint 
as we work to complete the legacy cleanup there within a 
decade. Demolition work at West Valley in New York will advance 
as well as cleanup of the highest risk excess facilities in 
Tennessee.
    This request also enables continued shipments to the Waste 
Isolation Pilot Plant as we modernize the facility to meet the 
needs of both cleanup and national security programs. While 
significant progress has been made, we're always looking at 
opportunities to improve. The budget request allows for 
continued improvement to the rigor of program and project 
management as well as opportunities to progress cleanup safely 
and more efficiently.
    This includes technology development, targeted R&D 
investments, evaluation of cost-effective treatment options, 
and investment in building future workforce pipelines. I thank 
the Subcommittee for its historical support of our program and 
our mission and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. William White follows:]

              Prepared Statement by William ``Ike'' White
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, it is an honor to appear before you today to represent 
the Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Environmental Management 
(EM).
    EM's mission represents the government's strong commitment to 
cleaning up the environmental legacy of the national defense programs 
that helped end World War II and the cold war. EM's vital mission does 
not just address past legacy; it also helps support and enable DOE's 
ongoing national security and scientific research missions.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $8.2 billion for EM reflects 
the Biden Administration's strong commitment to advancing the cleanup 
mission and preparing for sustained success, maintaining national 
security priorities, and supporting communities most impacted by the 
environmental legacy of the past.
                          35 years of progress
    For nearly 35 years EM has been entrusted with the largest 
environmental cleanup effort in the world--addressing the substantial 
environmental liability from decades of nuclear weapons production and 
nuclear energy research. From an original 107 sites, some dating back 
to the Manhattan Project Era and the birth of the Atomic Age, EM has 
cleaned up 92 sites, leaving just 15 to go.
    EM's significant accomplishments just in the past few years have 
included completing demolition of the Plutonium Finishing Plant, a 
facility that produced two-thirds of the Nation's cold war-era 
plutonium at the Hanford Site in Washington State; completing the 
removal of the former uranium enrichment complex at Oak Ridge in 
Tennessee; and completing construction of the entire tank waste 
treatment system at the Savannah River Site in South Carolina, enabling 
significant progress in how the Department tackles one of its largest 
environmental and financial liabilities at that site.
                        transformational results
    Enabled by the significant investments Congress has made in the 
program, EM has delivered accomplishments and capabilities that have 
transformed the environmental cleanup mission. Game-changing tank waste 
treatment capabilities are in place to address EM's largest 
environmental liability. With startup of the Salt Waste Processing 
Facility, a full suite of tank waste treatment capabilities is in place 
at the Savannah River Site. Since 2020, EM has more than doubled tank 
waste treatment capability at the Site. The Integrated Waste Treatment 
Unit has treated over 68,000 gallons of tank waste in Idaho since the 
start of operations in 2023. EM has also treated over 800,000 gallons 
of radioactive and chemical waste from large underground tanks at the 
Hanford Site where work is progressing toward initiation of the Direct 
Feed Low Activity Waste (DFLAW) project that will convert this waste 
into glass for disposal. Both Waste Treatment Plant melters have been 
heated to operational temperature and the first containers of Activity 
Waste (DFLAW) project that will convert this waste into glass for 
disposal. Both Waste Treatment Plant melters have been heated to 
operational temperature and the first containers of
    EM progress extends well beyond the tank waste mission. Demolition 
efforts across the EM enterprise have resulted in risk reduction and 
have opened up opportunities for conservation, economic development, 
scientific research, and national security priorities. Removing an 
entire enrichment complex at the Oak Ridge Site has led to a 
significant increase in ongoing demolition work at the Oak Ridge 
National Laboratory and Y-12 that is freeing up future mission 
capabilities for the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) 
and the Office of Science. The Nevada National Security Sites has 
completed demolition of four buildings that supported development and 
testing of nuclear rocket engines during the cold war Era. This year, 
EM plans to complete demolition of Building 3901 and four ancillary 
structures at the Engine, Maintenance, Assembly, and Disassembly 
Facility and will continue to reduce the overall cleanup footprint in 
Nevada in Fiscal Year 2025. In addition, work at the West Valley 
Demonstration Project's Main Plant Process Building has progressed with 
more than 9,000 tons of debris from the demolition disposed in 2023. 
This priority will continue this year and will further advance under 
the Fiscal Year 2025 budget request.
    Shipments and waste emplacement doubled at WIPP in Fiscal Year 
2023. This includes shipments from the Los Alamos National Laboratory, 
where the EM team certified and completed 59 shipments to WIPP, 
surpassing the Fiscal Year 2023 goal of 40 shipments.
              steady progress planned for fiscal year 2025
    The Fiscal Year 2025 budget request reflects the Administration's 
strong commitment to cleaning up the environment in communities that 
supported or continue to support weapons programs and government-
sponsored nuclear research. Key investments position EM for sustained 
achievement as the program continues to drive risk reduction, progress 
skyline changes, and ramp up efforts to tackle tank waste while 
enabling DOE's vital national security and scientific research 
missions.
    Protecting the environment by addressing radioactive waste stored 
in underground tanks at Hanford, Savannah River, and the Idaho National 
Laboratory is a top priority for EM. The budget request advances 
commissioning and startup of Hanford's Direct Feed Low Activity Waste 
system. After decades of support from the local community, Congress, 
and the workforce, this transformational accomplishment is within 
sight.
    As we prepare to begin operating Hanford's low-activity tank waste 
vitrification capabilities, the budget request also invests in work on 
the Waste Treatment Plant's High Level Waste facility to be able to 
tackle that portion of Hanford's tank waste inventory. In parallel, EM 
continues to identify safe, effective, and viable options for the 
treatment of all Hanford's tank waste.
    EM is focused on moving the entire Hanford tank waste mission 
forward, recognizing that additional delays bring greater environmental 
risks, exacerbate the impacts of already aging infrastructure, and 
increase costs. DOE, the Washington State Department of Ecology, and 
the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency recently announced a landmark 
agreement that proposes a realistic and achievable holistic path for 
advancing the Hanford tank waste mission. The fiscal year 2025 budget 
request is consistent with the agreement which will enable EM to 
progress Hanford's high level tank waste mission via a direct-feed 
approach and achieve risk reduction while continuing to explore 
alternative treatment technologies for low-activity waste, including 
grout. Through the agreement and pursuit of an EPA variance, DOE will 
have a stronger path forward for out-of-State grout disposal through at 
least 2040. Enabling a path to offsite grout is responsive to 
recommendations from the National Academies of Science, the General 
Accountability Office, Congress, and others. EM has also developed a 
Research and Development Roadmap to guide investments in additional 
technology options to accelerate the Hanford tank waste mission. This 
year, EM is planning to initiate installation of equipment for the Test 
Bed Initiative Demonstration project, which has the potential to safely 
pretreat low-activity waste from Hanford tanks, solidify the waste, and 
dispose of it offsite in a manner that is protective of the workers, 
the public, and the environment.
    In addition to helping solve the challenges of tank waste, the 
request will enable EM to continue meaningful cleanup progress across 
the Hanford Site, including transferring radioactive capsules to safer 
dry storage, advancing work in and around the 324 Building, and 
treating another 2 billion gallons of contaminated groundwater.
    In South Carolina, the Fiscal Year 2025 budget request supports 
continued efforts to fully utilize Savannah River Site capabilities to 
continue waste processing and tank closure activities. The budget 
request also supports continued progress in disposition of nuclear 
materials stored at the Savannah River Site, storage and disposition of 
site-generated waste, cleanup of contaminated soils, groundwater, 
streams and associated wetlands, and the deactivation and 
decommissioning of legacy facilities.
    At the Idaho National Laboratory, the request supports continued 
operations of the Integrated Waste Treatment Unit which will ultimately 
treat about 900,000 gallons of liquid waste by turning it into a 
granular solid. The request also supports progress toward key cleanup 
priorities, including continued treatment and shipping of transuranic 
waste to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant, decontamination and 
demolition of facilities at the Subsurface Disposal Area (SDA), 
initiation of construction of an engineered cap over the SDA, and 
further evaluation of the treatment options for calcine waste.
                 support for national security missions
    In addition to reducing environmental risks at these and other 
sites across the complex, EM progress is supporting national security 
priorities, enabling scientific research, establishing opportunities 
for conservation and clean energy development, and boosting community 
efforts to build strong economies and create jobs.
    In recognition of the role the Savannah River Site will play in the 
National Nuclear Security Administration's pit production mission, EM 
will transfer site management responsibilities to NNSA in fiscal year 
2025, while remaining focused on completing the remaining legacy 
cleanup activities at the site. EM and NNSA are committed to a 
successful transition that keeps national security priorities, as well 
as the long-term outlook for the site and community at the forefront.
    Perhaps nowhere are the opportunities to support national security 
and research priorities more evident than in Tennessee where large-
scale cleanup operations are firmly underway at the Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory (ORNL) and the Y-12 National Security Complex. Building on 
previous demolition work, EM transferred the 18-acre Biology Complex at 
the Y-12 National Security Complex to the NNSA, which is using it to 
build a new Lithium Processing Facility. In 2023, EM tore down the Low 
Intensity Test Reactor located in ORNL's central campus, marking the 
second reactor demolition within the span of a year. Oak Ridge is 
continuing deactivation at numerous high-risk facilities, including 
multiple former enrichment facilities at Y-12 and former reactors and 
isotope labs at ORNL. This year, EM will initiate demolition of the 
Alpha 2 Building at the Y-12 National Security Complex. Once completed, 
this will mark the first demolition of a former enrichment facility at 
Y-12. This steady progress is a part of a broader vision focused not 
only on cleaning up the past, but also advancing the ORNL and Y-12 
research and national security missions.
    The budget request supports additional cleanup of high-risk excess 
facilities at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the Y-12 National 
Security Complex. It also supports work to advance the Mercury 
Treatment Facility and a second onsite waste disposal facility, both of 
which are pivotal to future efforts to reduce risks, stabilize 
facilities, advance cleanup, and ultimately provide land for research 
and national security missions.
    While significant progress has been made in the deactivation and 
decommissioning of excess facilities, EM is continuously looking at 
opportunities to further improve. As strategies for the removal of 
these facilities are refined, EM is collaborating with NNSA and the 
Office of Science to plan, prioritize, and achieve optimal sequencing 
of work to best meet both environmental cleanup commitments, as well as 
other overarching DOE priorities.
    EM is in the midst of a significant infrastructure and 
modernization campaign at WIPP, a facility that just marked its 25th 
anniversary as the lynchpin of EM's transuranic waste mission. The 
utility shaft that is critical for ventilation upgrades has reached its 
final depth and commissioning of the new Safety Significant Containment 
Ventilation System is underway. Along with providing for continued WIPP 
operations, as well as waste characterization and transportation 
programs, the budget request supports continued infrastructure 
recapitalization projects, as well as mine modernization activities and 
safety upgrades in Fiscal Year 2025. Taken together, these projects 
will help ensure EM has the infrastructure in place to support disposal 
operations for years to come.
                        investing in the future
    Recognizing the EM mission will span several decades at some sites, 
the budget request also supports efforts to foster, build, and maintain 
a next-generation workforce that promotes diversity, equity, inclusion, 
and accessibility.
    Across the program, EM is ensuring resources are focused on the 
most urgent risks and taking an integrated and corporate approach to 
prioritizing all work at remaining sites. In addition, EM is constantly 
looking for new opportunities to drive down the overall lifecycle costs 
at these sites. Across mission areas, EM utilizes science-based 
advancements that provide opportunities to meet cleanup commitments 
safely and more efficiently. EM is leveraging the expertise of the 
Savannah River National Laboratory and the Network of National 
Laboratories for Environmental Management and Stewardship to develop 
innovative solutions that will benefit EM, the NNSA, and other DOE 
missions. The budget request supports a more integrated approach to EM 
technology development, targeted R&D investments, the continued 
evaluation of additional treatment and disposal options, and 
partnerships with regulators to apply effective solutions. The budget 
request also supports ongoing efforts to actively engage with local 
communities, consult with Tribal Nations, and prioritize stakeholder 
engagement to ensure inclusive and transparent communication. These 
efforts are helping to achieve a greater degree of alignment to enable 
continued progress.
    As the world's largest environmental remediation program, EM also 
has a responsibility to accomplish the mission in a way that is 
sustainable and that supports the future of our planet. EM aims to lead 
by example in areas like clean energy utilization and climate 
resiliency.
    Whether it is boosting sustainability, building a workforce for 
tomorrow, investing in R&D, analyzing disposal options, reaching 
decisions about remaining waste streams, achieving regulatory 
alignment, or upgrading infrastructure, EM is preparing for the future. 
These multi-faceted activities are laid out in EM's annual priorities 
list and 10-year strategic vision as part of EM's ongoing efforts to 
improve prioritization, planning, and mission execution.
                               conclusion
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request is the latest sign of this 
Administration's strong support for EM's vital mission. As the mission 
is carried out, EM is committed to continuous improvement and making 
further advancements to ensure that cleanup activities are conducted in 
a safe, efficient, and cost-effective manner.

    Senator King. Thank you.
    You'll notice the vice chair and I are the only ones here, 
and I want to explain that. We are hoping that someone with an 
AI [artificial intelligence] capacity will figure out how to 
schedule the Senate. It's not uncommon for us to have three 
hearings scheduled at the same time, and I think that's 
happened this afternoon. On top of that is a vote on the Senate 
floor. But be assured we all know these people and they're 
keenly interested in what you're doing.
    Administrator Hruby, is Savannah River a practical project? 
Is it going to be able to be brought in at a reasonable time at 
a reasonable cost? The numbers keep going up and the date keeps 
moving out. Give me an update on Savannah River.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, thank you, Senator King. I'd be 
happy to. In short, I would just say absolutely. It's a 
practical project and real progress is being made. We've done a 
lot of things to make this project more realizable. But the 
costs have gone up. I have much more confidence in the cost.
    I think we all have much more confidence in the cost and 
the time estimate to complete the SAR goal now is to complete 
construction of Savannah River in 2032. Then to start the 
process to do rate production and have that complete in 2030, 
2035, or 2036.
    Senator King. Is Los Alamos going to be able to meet the 
demand that we have for pits in the meantime?
    Administrator Hruby. They are. So, Los Alamos will be 
producing 30 pits per year in 2028 for the W-87-----
    Senator King. One's been already produced this year. Is 
that correct?
    Administrator Hruby. We've made pits at Los Alamos. We're 
going to make our first fully WR, certified War Reserve 
certified diamond stamped, as we call it, pit, this year. But 
we made 9 complete pits last year plus five developmental pits 
last year at Los Alamos.
    So, we're feeling a lot more confidence in our ability to 
make pits there repeatedly. We'll get our certification, we'll 
be on our path. We have a very detailed schedule path for 30 
pits per year at Los Alamos.
    Senator King. Let me change the subject. One of your areas 
that you mentioned is non-proliferation. One of my biggest 
concerns is nuclear material falling into the hands of 
terrorists. In an open setting, what can you tell us about what 
steps are underway in order to prevent that from happening?
    We have nuclear states, some of which are rather unstable. 
We have a nuclear State that seems inclined to sell things. 
That's the nightmare because we've all talked about deterrence. 
Deterrence doesn't work with a terrorist.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes.
    Senator King. They don't have a capital city that is at 
risk and they don't care about dying. So, we're going to have 
to rely on non-proliferation and intelligence. But what can you 
tell us in an open setting about dealing with that issue?
    Administrator Hruby. Well, we work with everybody that we 
can to get rid of weapon usable material or materials that 
would make dirty bombs. Terrorists are usually not in that 
group. So, what we do is we work with our allies and partners 
to make sure we have very strong border protection and 
crossing.
    So, any illicit movement of materials and we have 
fortunately or depends on how you think about it but in this 
case, fortunately we have allies that live in bad neighborhoods 
around these places where terrorist cells exist and we have 
strong collaborations with them to make sure we can detect----
    Senator King. Do we have technology that can detect the 
movement of nuclear material?
    Administrator Hruby. Somewhat----
    Senator King. We're in an open setting, but in so far as 
you can answer that question.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, somewhat. It depends on the 
amount and it depends on whether or not they shield it. There's 
lots of details that matter but we certainly work on those 
technologies and we deploy them, you know, frequently when we 
think they'll be effective and where we think they'll be 
effective.
    Senator King. I'm going to start with you, Admiral, but 
we'll come back in a second round. I worry about the submarine 
industrial base. We're barely building a submarine a year and 
if you add AUKUS, I just don't know who's going to build those 
submarines. Is that a concern of yours? What do we do to 
address it?
    Admiral Houston. Chairman, obviously construction of 
submarines, carrier submarine or it's near and dear to my 
heart. With the Columbia-and the Virginia-class, the ``1 + 2'', 
we have invested heavily as a Navy in the submarine industrial 
base to build that cadence, and really helping those sub-tier 
suppliers that actually feed our prime shipyards to build those 
submarines is really key.
    We are fully committed to that, and your investment on the 
Navy is significant----
    Senator King. Do your current 5-year plan indicate that 
we're going to have the capacity to build the submarines that 
we that we hope to?
    Admiral Houston. For my naval reactors hat on my DOE 
[Department of Energy] side, absolutely, and for the Navy side 
right now, we are progressing on a plan to get to 2.0 by 2028 
and 2.33 by 2032, which corresponds to the time that we would 
be delivering the first submarine purchase by Australia.
    Senator King. That's going to take some serious workforce 
development.
    Admiral Houston. It's significant work. If you look at what 
we have done in 2014, we're building a single Virginia and in 
2024 we're building two Virginias that are 25 percent bigger 
than the Virginias we we're building in 2014. We've added on 
top of that the Columbia-class which is two and a half times 
that original Virginia.
    So, we have increased by fivefold the tonnage we're 
building on submarines in the middle of COVID, in the middle of 
supply chain issues, and we are progressing on that. That is 
why the Navy is so invested in the submarine industrial base to 
improve that cadence on submarine construction which is 
absolutely critical to the roles submarines play for our 
strategic deterrence and also in the Western Pacific.
    Senator King. Thank you, Admiral.
    Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    As Members of this Subcommittee are acutely aware, NNSA has 
extensive infrastructure needs. Some of your facilities date 
back to the Manhattan Project and budget constraints and uneven 
performance on past recapitalization efforts have increased the 
level of risk to the nuclear enterprise.
    Administrator, can you provide this Committee with an 
update on the ongoing capital asset projects particularly the 
new facilities planned for the processing of the critical 
minerals?
    Administrator Hruby. Okay. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    We do have a lot of infrastructure projects underway. Our 
strategy is to finish, is to try--is to start getting them done 
and then start new ones as opposed to start them all at the 
same time, and so, we've been very stringent on our 
prioritization of these facilities and we're doing this for 
reasons.
    One, we need them. So, we need them to get our weapons 
done. The second thing is it's cheaper if you can get them done 
than if you just continue to drag them out, we've seen cost 
increase as a result of that just by keeping people on roll 
that might not be at their full capacity. So, we have a plan to 
get projects finished. Now, with respect to critical minerals--
--
    Senator Fischer. Can I ask you what the priority is on the 
facilities? Which one you're prioritizing, some do similar 
minerals obviously, but most of them are doing different ones.
    Administrator Hruby. Right. So, our highest priority is pit 
production. So, the two facilities, one at Los Alamos and one 
at Savannah River. The other facility that we're pushing toward 
completion is the uranium processing facility at Y-12. The next 
most crucial facility from a single point of failure 
perspective is our lithium processing facility at Y-12.
    In addition, we have high explosive facilities underway 
which are also critical to be able to produce the weapons that 
we have lined up.
    Senator Fischer. Did you want to finish your first comment 
when I interrupted?
    Administrator Hruby. Well, I just think that with three--I 
wanted to say more--newer to our discussions the fact that we 
broke ground on the lithium processing facility and this 
facility----
    Senator Fischer. Is that at Y-12?
    Administrator Hruby. That is at Y-12. It replaces a very 
old facility that has some serious both safety and structural 
issues, and so, we'll be talking about that in the years ahead. 
I think it's also to the point that Senator King made earlier, 
to get these pit production facilities done is going to require 
fast--it's going to require higher investments over shorter 
periods of time.
    So, you're going to--you don't see that in the Fiscal Year 
2025 request too much but I will--I think it's coming in your 
request.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Administrator and Admiral, between the AUKUS agreement and 
the possibility that we're going to need to increase the number 
of planned hulls for Columbia-class, Virginia-class or SSNX 
submarines, how are we managing the increased demand for the 
highly enriched uranium for the Naval Reactors? Do we need to 
put plans forward for any new enrichment facilities?
    Admiral Houston. The highly enriched uranium supply is 
projected to last to the 2050's. Even with these increased 
demands, we are well aware of it. Naval Reactors is working 
very closely with NNSA and DOE because, as you know, we're 
currently getting our highly enriched uranium from older 
nuclear weapons that we're reprocessing.
    So, it's something that has our attention. We have to 
develop a plan to do that, and we're watching that very 
closely. The increased demands from AUKUS, we've looked at 
that. It's very very small in the overall scheme. The bigger 
thing is that we have to get the capability in time to support 
about two to three metric ton delivery to support our fleet 
needs in the 2050's, and we're working very close.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Senator King. Admiral, I visit the Portsmouth shipyard 
fairly regularly and always climb down in a submarine that's 
under overhaul. By the way, I flunk the virtual welding test 
every time. I keep trying but it's very difficult. Anyway, are 
you doing any thought in your design to accelerating the 
overhaul process?
    I'm concerned about availability of these very expensive 
assets and how much time they have to spend in dry dock. Are 
there, for example, Senator Fischer and I were in Maine, North 
Dakota and we went down into the missile field and the old 
missiles you've had to practically take them all apart to get 
to some of the pieces that needed maintenance.
    Is this something that you think about in the design of the 
submarines in order to get them in and out of overhaul on a 
more accelerated timetable?
    Admiral Houston. Yes, Senator, that was my first time I met 
you, you're a Governor and we commissioned the Maine up in the 
Portsmouth shipyard. So, it's an incredible shipyard. It's one 
of our leading submarine shipyards there. It's a tremendous 
site, and I will tell you, we from the nuclear propulsionsite 
are doing everything we can to expedite those.
    We play a part in the submarine overhaul, a large, large 
portion of it. We are working with our INC to do a once in the 
life of the ship upgrade on that. We have a very robust design 
on that. We are looking at maintenance activities such as our 
media discharges to do a once in life, and we are pushing 
technology.
    We have invested heavily in additive manufacturing because 
from a Naval Reactor standpoint, I own both the technical 
requirements and I also own the financial levers to pull. I'm 
actually leading the way for NAFC and I have components now 
that are being additively manufactured that are going into our 
primary plants, our reactor plants, to lead the way.
    So, we are trying to accelerate that because I see the same 
thing. It's more than just ship building. It's that ship repair 
and ship sustainment.
    Senator King. Exactly. Well, I'm glad to hear about the 
additive manufacturing. My belief is that there should be a 3D-
printer on every ship and in every hangar and that we should be 
buying the IP when we buy a platform so that we can maintain 
and build parts in a much more efficient way.
    Admiral Houston. I absolutely agree. The carriers do have 
printers on them. Some of our submarines have actually deployed 
with printers and they've actually additively manufactured some 
components already for that. We need to expand that, and it's 
more about speed now than it is so much about the process you 
use.
    We find with additive manufacturing that--it's faster than 
some of the just pure casting, pouring molten metal into sand, 
and then removing all that excess metal. It is all that work 
that you have to do is taking away from actual production time 
that you could be using for other things.
    So, I absolutely see it the same way as you do and we just 
have to keep on leaving the way.
    Senator King. I appreciate that and I can't resist 
mentioning that the University of Maine has the largest 3D-
printer in the world and last year they printed a house. So, 
it's an amazing technology that I think is going to change 
everything but it could also help us with maintenance of our 
naval and in fact air and armed forces assets.
    Mr. White, I mentioned in my opening the cost of the 
estimated cost of half a trillion dollars. You mentioned in 
your comments, looking at different technologies and 
techniques, is there any hope of finding technologies that will 
enable us to meet our obligations at the same time? Maybe chip 
away at that $500 billion?
    Mr. White. Senator, thank you for that question. I 
absolutely think so, and I think some of them we're doing 
currently and we're working with our State regulators and 
partners on the agreement we just signed. I mentioned earlier 
with the State of Washington will allow us to explore 
alternative treatment technologies for the bulk of our tank 
waste there, the low activity portion of that.
    This Committee supported our Test Bed Initiative in the 
past which looks at commercial disposable and grouting options. 
I think just that ability alone to do with the low activity 
piece of the tank waste in that fashion would save hundreds of 
billions of dollars beyond just simply vitrifying the waste.
    There are other things we can do that this committee has 
supported, our R&D efforts, looking long range at our tank 
waste mission. One of the things folks don't always think about 
in terms of our tank is we have about 50 million gallons at 
Hanford. but over time because of the way we have to retrieve 
the waste. We use water to retrieve it, you end up having to 
treat about 150 million gallons of waste because you have to 
create more waste as you retrieve what's there to be able to 
treat it. Part of our R&D effort that we just awarded this past 
year, for example, is going to our laboratories to look at 
alternative retrieval technologies so that we can reduce the 
amount of water that we have to use in retrieval to ultimately 
be able to reduce the amount of tank waste that we have to 
treat.
    So, I think there are opportunities like that across the 
enterprise, and we're trying to take advantage of those.
    Senator King. Could you hazard an estimate as to when 
Hanford will be done?
    Mr. White. I can give you an estimate, Senator, but I can 
almost guarantee you that I would be wrong. I think our best 
case for getting done if we can work through our technical 
challenges and use alternative treatment technologies could be 
as early as the 2060-ish timeframe. I think if we----
    Senator King. 2060?
    Mr. White. Yes, sir.
    Senator King. Wow.
    Mr. White. It could otherwise be much longer.
    Senator King. Keith Richards might be dead by then.
    Senator King. I doubt.
    Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you for holding 
this hearing.
    It's really important. Thank you all for the work that you 
do. It's so important to us in Nevada as you know and because 
the Nevada National Security site, it has been called the 
Battlefield of the cold war and what was then known as the 
Nevada Test Site.
    Those of us in Nevada still call it the Nevada Test Site, 
it was ground zero for the majority of our Nation's nuclear 
tests where 100 atmospheric and 828 underground tests were 
conducted from 1951 to 1992. We know these tests contaminated 
our soil, our groundwater, the facilities in the area, and 
cleanup is still ongoing.
    Mr. White, can you please provide us an update on the 
cleanup projects within the security site? Do you have the 
adequate resources to complete the task?
    Mr. White. Thank you for that, Senator, and I very much 
appreciate the support from Congress over the last couple of 
years and adding additional funds to our cleanup budget in 
Nevada. I think that's helped us in a couple of cases. We've 
been able to install more robust inspection capabilities for 
our disposal activities there, and we've been able to optimize 
some of our D&D [design & development] efforts.
    Right now, we're very much focused on what I think is a 
historically interesting part of the site where some of the 
nuclear rocket work was done. So, the test cells and the old 
facilities that were being D&D'd within our current approach. 
We should be able to get that work done by the 2030 timeframe.
    Senator Rosen. Wonderful. Thank you.
    Administrator Hruby, today the site conducts the 
subcritical experiments to verify the reliability, the 
effectiveness of our nuclear stockpile so that we never ever 
have to return to the days of above or below ground testing, 
explosive testing. So last week, this first subcritical 
experiment in roughly 3 years was conducted in the principal 
underground laboratory for subcritical experimentation. Much 
easier to say pulse facility, and so, can you discuss the 
importance of that experiment?
    Why subcritical experiments and other experiments taking 
place as Nevada National Security Site are vital to our 
stockpile stewardship and ensuring that we can continue to 
certify the stockpile without again, ever returning to 
underground explosive nuclear testing?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. Thank you, Senator Rosen, it's 
good to see you again, and we're very proud of the fact that we 
had a successful subcritical experiment just last week. These 
experiments are so important because they allow us to study 
actual plutonium without creating a chain reaction.
    So, that's why we call them subcritical, and so, we can 
actually look at the real material under conditions that are 
important to us under very dynamic conditions. As a result of 
these tests, we can make sure the aged material still behaving 
as we would expect it to. We can look at newly produced 
materials and see if it behaves the same.
    We can learn new things by our high-fidelity experimental 
data collection. So, we anticipate this is the best way to 
maintain our stockpile without returning to nuclear testing. 
Especially with the demands that we have right now in our 
production enterprise, as well as perhaps new weapons that we 
need in the future to meet these changing global conditions.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, it's important that we do these and we 
talk about all of our missions and particularly our counter-
terrorism mission. We have another thing, not besides having 
the test site. We have the amazing remote sensing laboratory. I 
love to go out there. They're doing just wonderful things.
    Of course, they're both at Nevada's Nellis Air Force Base 
and Joint Base Andrews. They provide that emergency response 
capability and crisis support teams and they are ready to 
deploy anywhere around the world. The personnel at these bases, 
I said, I've been out there many times and those of the 
national security site, They're the Nation's experts in 
locating dirty bombs, loose nukes, sources of radiation in 
addition to determining origin and attribution through nuclear 
forensics.
    Madam Administrator, given the critical role that both our 
facilities play, and remote sensing lab in particular in our 
national defense architecture, can you speak a little bit about 
how important our remote sensing lab is and the safety and 
security that they provide to the American people?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, absolutely. It is fun to talk to 
the people who work at these labs. They do amazing things at 
amazingly short timeframes because everything they do is 
usually associated with emergency response, and I would just 
like to say that it's been--it's not only for the American 
people when a source goes missing or something unexpected 
happens in the U.S. It's also for the international community, 
and they've been critical in our work.
    Senator Rosen. Do they have everything they need to 
continue their mission? I wanted to ask you.
    Administrator Hruby. I do think so. to be honest, they've 
had a boost because of the supplemental funding for Ukraine. 
They've done a lot of work for Ukraine.
    Senator Rosen. Oh, I know.
    Administrator Hruby. So that's not in our base budget, of 
course that's in our supplemental budget. But as a result of 
that, we've been able to really exercise all the muscles with 
that team.
    Senator Rosen. Well, we have remote sensing lab and the 
test site. Amazing teams work out there and I'm proud to go 
visit them and see the good work they're doing. Thank you.
    Senator King. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Administrator, I just have one more 
comment and question. First of all, I want to thank you for 
submitting your unfunded priorities list to the committee 
earlier this year. I agree with the programs that you listed 
and I do believe that they warrant this committee's attention 
and additional funding.
    Would you speak to the three programs that are listed SLCM-
N, the analytic gas laboratory mission enabling construction 
project, and then we've kind of talked in the past about the 
need for the binder, the production and qualification efforts 
for that, for the insensitive high explosives. Why do you need 
more resources for those?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. As I mentioned in my opening 
comments SLCM-N is a very unique case in this regard that you 
know, it wasn't in our program of record until the Fiscal Year 
2024 NDAA was passed. At that time, we had already submitted 
our fiscal year 2025 budget request. So, the SLCM-N budget 
requests when the unfunded requirements is for $70 million.
    That's an amount that we think is reasonable to do what we 
anticipate needing to do in that program. We're still working 
very closely with the DOD and the Navy to define the details of 
that program. But we are going to need some budget to do it. I 
went through the binder, let me address this binder issue.
    Emerging issue has come up as a result of changing 
environmental regulations concerning forever chemicals that we 
have a binder material on our explosives that falls into this 
category of materials that are now being regulated very closely 
by the EPA. So, we need a new binder material and we're going 
to work on a new binder material.
    But meanwhile, we also have to figure out how to get 
through the program of record that we have with a limited 
supply of those particular material and or finding another 
supplier. So, that's an issue that emerged after the budget was 
formulated. That's why it's in, and the analytical lab is, 
again, just to make sure that we have all the facilities we 
need to make sure that we can analyze what we need to do to 
produce the pits that we need to produce.
    Senator Rosen. Okay. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Okay. Thank you all very much. We'll have our 
second panel come forward. Thank you. Dr. Adams, are you 
leaning off?
    Dr. Adams. Yes.
    Senator King. You are now.
    Dr. Adams. Some short opening remarks?
    Senator King. Sorry?
    Dr. Adams. Are you requesting short opening remarks?
    Senator King. Yes, please.

  STATEMENT OF DR. MARVIN L. ADAMS, DEPUTY ADMINISTRATOR FOR 
   DEFENSE PROGRAMS, NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    Dr. Adams. Okay, thank you. Yes. So, Chairman King, Ranking 
Member Fischer and Members of the Committee, it is an honor to 
be here before you to discuss the President's Fiscal Year 2025 
Budget Request for the weapons activities portion of DOE and 
NNSA's activities.
    Thanks to support from this Subcommittee and the full 
Committee and Congress in general and the efforts of our 
outstanding dedicated workers across the nuclear security 
enterprise. We are steadily improving our infrastructure and 
our capabilities while we are also taking on new challenges as 
they arise from a worsening global security situation.
    The fiscal year 2025 weapons activities budget request of 
about $19.8 billion will support our continued commitment to 
design, manufacture, certify, transport, maintain, and assess 
the safe, secure and reliable warheads that are needed to keep 
our deterrent credible and effective.
    Toward that end, we have added programs for the B61-13 
gravity bomb and the Nuclear Sea Launch Cruise Missile to the 
other five warhead programs that have been and continue to be 
in our program of record. We have accepted the challenge of 
delivering the two new warheads within the same timeframe 
spanned by the other five.
    In fiscal year 2023 as Administrator Hruby mentioned, we 
delivered more than 200 modernized warheads to the military 
with all deliveries on schedule. The fiscal year 2025 budget 
request supports our commitment to continuing on-time 
deliveries into the future. It reflects time phasing of many 
efforts including construction projects to ensure that 
capabilities are ready by the time they are needed for warhead 
delivery.
    In closing, I would like to thank again, the subcommittee, 
the full Committee and Congress for the support that has 
enabled NNSA to deliver on its important national security 
missions to date, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of The Honorable Jill Hruby 
and Dr. Marvin L. Adams follows:]

 Prepared Statement by The Honorable Jill Hruby and Dr. Marvin L. Adams
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to present the President's 
Fiscal Year 2025 Budget Request for the Department of Energy's (DOE) 
National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA). NNSA appreciates the 
Subcommittee's ongoing support.
    Over the last year, NNSA has met urgent and demanding needs in all 
three of our missions: nuclear weapons, nuclear nonproliferation, and 
naval reactors. These accomplishments, enabled by support from the 
Administration and Congress, took dedication, innovation, and 
collaboration by the members of our talented nuclear security 
enterprise workforce.
    I am proud to report that NNSA delivered over 200 modernized 
nuclear weapons to the Department of Defense (DOD) this past year--the 
most since the end of the cold war. Using the world's most 
sophisticated tools for nuclear stockpile stewardship and a rigorous 
surveillance process, we once again certified the U.S. nuclear 
deterrent is safe, secure, and reliable without nuclear explosive 
testing. Our extensive infrastructure efforts continue to advance to 
meet today's needs and, over the longer term, provide a flexible and 
resilient enterprise for an uncertain future global security 
environment. Our science is used every day to design, certify, and 
assess our stockpile and we continue to create newsworthy 
breakthroughs. The exceptional science in the nuclear security 
enterprise is foundational to our Nation's nuclear deterrence. NNSA 
collaborates closely and continuously with DOD and the Nuclear Weapons 
Council (NWC) to synchronize and plan the modernization of our nuclear 
deterrent, adapt to an evolving environment, and assure our allies and 
partners.
    NNSA also continues advancing our nonproliferation, 
counterterrorism, and emergency response efforts. We are actively 
improving our space-based nuclear detonation sensors, advancing tools 
for enrichment monitoring, expanding nuclear smuggling detection to new 
relevant global regions, enhancing and enforcing export controls, and 
red teaming artificial intelligence models for proliferation risks. 
Importantly, we are now regularly removing surplus plutonium from South 
Carolina and have implemented a practical strategy for surplus 
plutonium disposition over the long term. Using previously enacted 
supplemental funding, our DOE and NNSA teams support Ukraine with 
emergency preparedness tools and exercises, radiation and nuclear 
sensors, and equipment for nuclear power plant resilience. Our 
nonproliferation and counterterrorism efforts increasingly require 
close collaboration across other NNSA mission areas and the 
interagency, and this collaboration is critical to our development and 
deployment of high impact solutions.
    The NNSA Naval Reactors program continues to advance reactor 
technology to provide a competitive edge to the United States military. 
Reactors that will never need refueling will be delivered on time for 
the new Columbia-class ballistic-missile submarines, reactor designs 
for the next generation of fast-attack submarines are in progress, and 
the construction of the Spent Fuel Handling Facility in Idaho is 
underway. Additionally, using other funding, Naval Reactors continues 
to support the trilateral Australia-U.K.-United States (AUKUS) program 
in close coordination with the Department of the Navy.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request reflects the urgent demands on 
the nuclear security enterprise to deliver and adapt while exercising 
fiscal restraint and increasing efficiency. NNSA's fiscal year 2025 
budget request is $25B, an increase of $862 million, or 3.6 percent, 
over the fiscal year 2024 enacted level.\1\ The fiscal year 2025 budget 
request prioritizes executing the nuclear weapon program of record 
including the development of the B61-13, responding to a deteriorating 
security environment, advancing naval nuclear propulsion systems, all 
while simultaneously revitalizing the infrastructure across the 
enterprise. In addition, our requested budget supports development and 
application of emerging technologies such as digital engineering and 
artificial intelligence (AI) that will increase our efficiency and 
innovation. The fiscal year 2025 budget request affirms the 
Administration's steadfast commitment to a strong national defense and 
NNSA's critical and evolving missions.
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    \1\ Fiscal year 2024 Enacted amounts throughout this testimony do 
not reflect the mandated transfer of $92.8 million from Naval Reactors 
to the Office of Nuclear Energy for operation of the Advanced Test 
Reactor.
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                           weapons activities
    The Weapons Activities fiscal year 2025 budget request of $19.8 
billion, a 3.9 percent increase over the fiscal year 2024 enacted, 
supports stockpile management; production modernization; stockpile 
research, technology, and engineering; infrastructure and operations; 
defense nuclear security and secure transportation; and information 
management and cyber security.
Stockpile Management
    The Stockpile Management budget request of $5.14B, a decrease of 
3.5 percent from the fiscal year 2024 enacted, supports stockpile 
modernization, stockpile sustainment, weapons dismantlement, production 
operations, and nuclear enterprise assurance. The lower request for 
fiscal year 2025 compared to the fiscal year 2024 enacted is the result 
of smaller requests for the B61-12 and W88 Alt 370, which reflects 
these modernization programs approaching the end of component 
production, as well as the absence of funding for the Sea Launched 
Cruise Missile Nuclear (SLCM-N).
  Stockpile Modernization
    The stockpile modernization program budget request of $2.84B 
supports six systems in the expanded program of record: B61-12 Life 
Extension Program (LEP), B61-13, W88 Alt 370, W87-1, W80-4, and W93. 
Although SLCM-N is not in the budget request due to the timing of the 
fiscal year 2024 National Defense Authorization Act (fiscal year 2024 
NDAA) and fiscal year 2024 budget enactment compared to the development 
and submittal of the fiscal year 2025 budget request, NNSA will 
continue to work with DOD and Congress to assure accordance with fiscal 
year 2024 NDAA Section 1640.
    NNSA has achieved 100 percent on-time delivery of the W88 
Alteration (Alt) 370 Program and B61-12 LEP to DOD. This represents 
consistent production progress since our announcement of First 
Production Units (FPU) in fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 2022, 
respectively.
    Starting with the fiscal year 2024 budget enactment, NNSA began the 
B61-13 program in response to the decision to strengthen deterrence and 
assurance by providing the President with additional options against 
certain harder and large-area military targets. In coordination with 
DOD, NNSA will decrease the number of B61-12s built by the number of 
B61-13s manufactured, resulting in no change to the number of weapons 
in the stockpile. NNSA appreciates Congress' authorization and 
appropriation of $52 million in fiscal year 2024 for the B61-13, 
allowing us to take advantage of active B61 production capabilities. In 
fiscal year 2025, the B61-13 program will progress into Phase 6.4, 
Production Engineering, with FPU expected in fiscal year 2026.
    The W80-4 warhead for the long-range standoff missile entered Phase 
6.4, Production Engineering, in fiscal year 2023 and remains on track 
for FPU in September 2027, aligned with the Air Force schedule for 
initial and final operational capability dates.
    In fiscal year 2023, the W87-1 entered Phase 6.3, Development 
Engineering, a major milestone. The W87-1 will replace the aging W78 
warhead, one of the oldest in the stockpile. The FPU for the W87-1 is 
currently scheduled for fiscal year 2031 to 2032. The W87-1 is the 
first modernized weapon that will have a newly manufactured pit, which 
will be built at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) and certified by 
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL).
    In May 2022, the W93 entered Phase 2, Feasibility Study and Design 
Options, and remains on track for production starting in the mid-
2030's. The NWC has directed effort to accelerate the W93 FPU and the 
fiscal year 2025 budget request supports this effort. The W93 is a new 
warhead program based on existing designs that will not require new 
underground nuclear explosive testing. The W93 will meet DOD 
requirements to enhance operational effectiveness of the U.S. ballistic 
missile submarine force. The W93 will have new pits produced at the 
Savannah River Site (SRS). The W93 program is being undertaken in 
parallel with the U.K. Replacement Warhead program continuing our 
coordination through the United States-U.K. Mutual Defense Agreement.
    The fiscal year 2024 NDAA requires a SLCM-N as part of NNSA's 
program of record. As mentioned earlier, NNSA is coordinating with DOD 
to determine warhead requirements and meet congressional direction for 
this new program. We will continue to keep Congress informed as program 
offices in NNSA and the Navy are stood up and requirements are better 
defined.
    In addition to the seven modernization programs mentioned here, 
NNSA has also requested $69 million in the Stockpile Research, 
Technology, and Engineering (SRT&E) program to support two Phase 1 
system studies for early exploration of hard and deeply buried target 
defeat and non-ballistic reentry systems. During these Phase 1 studies, 
NNSA will evaluate potential weapon design concepts that could meet 
anticipated deterrence requirements.
    To continue to increase efficiency and enable future on-time 
delivery of weapons, NNSA has initiated two efforts: digital 
engineering and agile product realization. It is our intent to lower 
the time and cost to deliver a new weapon as we improve our processes 
and increase the experience level within the enterprise.
    With this budget request, NNSA will continue to deliver modernized 
nuclear weapons on schedule and at pace and will be positioned to do so 
through the next decade and beyond.
  Other Stockpile Management Activities
    The Stockpile Management budget request includes an increase of 10 
percent over the fiscal year 2024 enacted to Stockpile Sustainment and 
Production Operations combined, reflecting the increased demands of the 
existing and modernized stockpile efforts. The Nuclear Enterprise 
Assurance increased budget request reflects a response to growing 
threats associated with cyber and digital advances. NNSA has requested 
over a 50 percent increase since fiscal year 2023 to respond to this 
new reality. Last, the fiscal year 25 budget request for Weapons 
Dismantlement is decreased slightly as we balance the needs of the 
enterprise.
Production Modernization
    NNSA's $5.9B budget request for production modernization is an 
increase of $11.7 million, or 0.2 percent, higher than the fiscal year 
2024 enacted budget. The increase in Production Modernization reflects 
disciplined priority decisions in the portfolio and the overall Weapons 
Activities budget, as well as the availability of carryover balances to 
address fiscal year 2025 requirements. The FYNSP includes production 
modernization budget requests that grow at a faster pace in future 
years to meet stockpile modernization demands as the program spends 
down carryover balances, particularly in major projects.
  Plutonium Pit Production
    NNSA's highest production modernization priority is re-establishing 
the capability to produce new plutonium pits that was lost in 1989 when 
production at Rocky Flats was halted. The pit production plan includes 
a redesign and refurbishment of Los Alamos plutonium facilities to 
support a production capacity of 30 pits per year (ppy) while 
simultaneously establishing the processes to achieve war reserve (WR) 
qualified pits for the W87-1.
    As work continues at Los Alamos, the building designed and 
constructed to house the Mixed Oxide Fuel Fabrication Facility at 
Savannah River is being modified and re-purposed to manufacture at 
least 50 ppy. The W93 pits will be the first manufactured at Savannah 
River. Although the W87-1 and W93 programs are setting the quantity and 
schedule of pit production now, other future weapons will also require 
newly produced pits. Pit production will be needed to support the 
stockpile as long as nuclear weapons exist.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request for plutonium modernization is 
$2.89B, essentially flat from fiscal year 2024. The decreased budget 
request for Los Alamos reflects the use of carryover funding to support 
increased activity in fiscal year 2025. The increased budget request 
for Savannah River offsets the decreased request for Los Alamos. 
Additionally, the request for Infrastructure and Operations is higher 
than the fiscal year 2024 enacted level by $715 million, or 28 percent, 
in large part to support the pit production mission.
    The completion of pit production capabilities is arguably the 
largest and most complex undertaking at NNSA since the Manhattan 
Project. NNSA is working closely with DOD to assure the stockpile will 
remain safe, secure, reliable, and effective at all times while pit 
production capabilities are being established.
    Los Alamos Pit Production
    The fiscal year 2025 $1.5 billion budget request for Los Alamos pit 
production and the associated line-item projects is $266 million lower 
than fiscal year 2024. The decrease includes a reduction in line-item 
projects of $417 million reflecting the use of carryover balances and 
consistent with projected execution rates of the line-item projects.
    In fiscal year 2023, more development pits were produced at Los 
Alamos than ever before--nine full W87-1 development pit builds, with 
five more partial builds. Los Alamos is on track to ``diamond stamp'' 
the first fully qualified WR pit in the second half of 2024. The budget 
request supports the increased pace of manufacturing work associated 
with the ramp from FPU to rate production, as well as the increased 
pace planned for equipment installation. It is expected that Los Alamos 
will achieve the minimum capability needed to produce 30 ppy in or near 
2028 with increasingly dependable capability attained each year through 
2032.
    Savannah River Pit Production
    The requests for Savannah River Pit Production and Savannah River 
Plutonium Processing Facility (SRPPF) sum to $1.28 billion, a total of 
$212 million, or 20.0 percent, above the fiscal year 2024 enacted 
level.
    The requested increase for SRPPF supports the increasing pace of 
work to support completion of construction and turnover to operations 
in 2032. We thank Congress for the strong support of this critical 
project. NNSA used funding provided in fiscal year 2023 to contract 
awards for the first set of gloveboxes on the critical path for 
construction, as well as significant early site and building 
preparation work. fiscal year 2024 funding will be used for award 
contracts for additional long-lead critical-path procurements and 
preparations. SRPPF's Process Design is now 90 percent complete with 
the 60 percent overall project Preliminary Design completion 
anticipated before the first quarter of fiscal year 2025.
    Last year we committed to generating an updated SRPPF cost and 
schedule estimate, recognizing that there would be large uncertainties 
because the 60 percent design is not yet complete. Savannah River 
Nuclear Solutions (SRNS) has produced a ``bottom-up'' cost and schedule 
estimate based on information that was available near the end of fiscal 
year 2023. SRNS estimates turnover to operations will occur in late 
2032 or early 2033, with a total project cost of $18.5B. NNSA's cost 
range for Savannah River based on the SRNS estimate, an independent 
estimate from our Cost Estimating Savannah River based on the SRNS 
estimate, an independent estimate from our Cost Estimating Savannah 
River based on the SRNS estimate, an independent estimate from our Cost 
Estimating Savannah River based on the SRNS estimate, an independent 
estimate from our Cost Estimating
    NNSA historical data on cost and schedule, from a very limited set 
of large projects at a similar stage of development, suggest that SRPPF 
cost and schedule will increase from today's estimates. We are studying 
lessons learned from past projects and are implementing new practices 
to significantly reduce cost and schedule overruns. Examples include 
early procurement of long-lead items, early site and building work, and 
construction of the High Fidelity Training and Operations Center. We 
will continue to identify activities that will effect cost and schedule 
so the W93 pits can be delivered on time.
    Finally, the successful transition of SRS management to NNSA is 
important to our efforts on SRPPF. NNSA is working closely with our 
colleagues at DOE's Office of Environmental Management, the Savannah 
River Field Office, the SRNS leadership team, and local stakeholders to 
ensure a smooth transition.
    Pit Production Integrated Master Schedule and Total Acquisition 
        Cost
    The NNSA Integrated Master Schedule (NIMS) has been updated and 
improved as requested by Congress. Additional logic and linkages are 
included for the Los Alamos Plutonium Pit Production Project (LAP4), 
schedules between LAP4 and SRPPF are better integrated, and the paths 
to FPU and rate production at SRPPF are incorporated. The NIMS contains 
integrated detailed site schedule logic from Los Alamos, Lawrence 
Livermore, and the Kansas City National Security Campus (KCNSC) for 
program scope focused on pit manufacturing and production efforts to 
attain FPU at Los Alamos. There is less detail in the schedule for 
SRPPF projects and the later phases of equipment installation at LAP4 
since equipment and system designs for this work are less mature. NIMS 
will continue to integrate higher fidelity schedule logic for those 
programs and projects as their designs and schedules mature. The 
current NIMS is an effective management tool for the program and 
continuous updates will make it an effective tool in the long-term.
    Additionally, NNSA has directed an external review of our Plutonium 
program by the Advisory Committee for Nuclear Security, a Federal 
Advisory Committee Act group reporting to the Administrator. The 
initial report from this committee is expected in May 2024.
  Uranium
    Alongside pit production, the Uranium Processing Facility (UPF) at 
Y-12 is a top priority. The fiscal year 2025 budget request for UPF is 
$800 million, an 122 percent increase from the fiscal year 2023 enacted 
budget and a 5.2 percent increase from the fiscal year 2024 request. We 
greatly appreciate congressional actions to support the reprogramming 
of funds in fiscal year 2023.
    The construction of the overall UPF project is now over 60 percent 
complete. Gloveboxes are installed in the Main Process Building, and 
over 97 percent of all procurements have been delivered. The current 
focus of work is bulk electrical installation, with over 60 miles of 
electrical conduit and cable installed in the last half of 2023. 
However, due to a variety of issues, including direct and indirect 
impacts from COVID-19, deficiencies in contractor performance and 
planning, overly optimistic assumptions on productivity, repeated 
delays on procurements, and funding uncertainties, the most current UPF 
project cost estimate is $10.3 billion and the estimated date for 
construction completion is late fiscal year 2027 with beginning of 
operations expected in October 2031.
    In addition to making progress on UPF, NNSA is advancing its 
development of centrifuges and cascades for domestic uranium enrichment 
and its production of tritium with a fiscal year 2025 budget request of 
$662 million, an increase of nearly 12 percent over the fiscal year 
2024 enacted.
  Other Production Modernization Programs
    Other large-scale projects are either starting or moving forward in 
line with NNSA's weapon modernization and/or safety and security needs. 
In late 2023, NNSA broke ground on the Lithium Processing Facility 
(LPF) at Y-12 with construction expected to start in fiscal year 2026 
and a fiscal year 2025 budget request of $260 million. The High 
Explosives Science and Engineering Facility (HESE) at Pantex continues 
construction with a fiscal year 2025 budget request of $15 million, and 
the Power Sources Capability at Sandia has a budget request of $50 
million. The Kansas City Non-Nuclear Expansion Transformation (KCNExT), 
a new real eState acquisition approach to meet NNSA's space needs that 
will break ground in Summer 2024. KCNExT is critical to increase 
capacity of the non-nuclear components. Each of these projects is key 
to modernizing facilities to avoid infrastructure failure and to 
increase capacity. As a reference point, KCNSC delivered components 
containing more than 300,000 parts in the past year.
    NNSA recognizes the fiscal year 2024 NDAA statutory language for 
completion the High Explosives Synthesis, Formulation, and Production 
Facility (HESFP) at the Pantex Plant, and the Tritium Finishing 
Facility (TFF) at Savannah River. Funding for these project schedules 
was not factored into the fiscal year 2025 request as NNSA's strategy 
was to prioritize funding of a reduced number of critical projects, and 
both HESFP and TFF are of a lower priority.
Stockpile Research, Technology, and Engineering
    The SRT&E portfolio develops and delivers the tools used every day 
for design, certification, and assessment of the stockpile without 
underground nuclear explosive testing; evaluates and accelerates future 
concepts; improves understanding of weapon response to environmental 
conditions; and matures technologies for warheads and manufacturing 
processes. The SRT&E budget supports the infrastructure and workforce 
to deliver scientific and engineering advances, including both 
experimental and computational capabilities. The fiscal year 2025 
budget request for SRT&E is $3.17 billion, a 3.2 percent decrease from 
the fiscal year 2024 enacted and an increase of 7.6 percent from the 
fiscal year 2023 enacted.
    In fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024, Lawrence Livermore 
repeated its 2022 fusion ignition breakthrough at the National Ignition 
Facility (NIF) four times, improving gains and achieving a yield of 5.2 
MJ in February 2024. We were excited to have the first NNSA Ignition 
result highlighted by Google as the ``most searched breakthrough'' in 
the past 25 years. Also, in fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024, NNSA 
started significant efforts to mature technologies to manufacture 
radiation cases, evaluate new explosives formulations, implement 
artificial intelligence (AI) in science and engineering programs, and 
establish AI models and testbeds for unclassified and classified work.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $890 million for Advanced 
Scientific Computing, a 6 percent increase from the fiscal year 2024 
enacted budget, enables transitioning LANL's Crossroads system to 
classified service for weapons assessment and certification, bringing 
online the first exaflop computer, El Capitan, at Lawrence Livermore. 
Additionally, the request includes $50 million to expand the 
application of AI to assist in maintaining a safe, secure, and reliable 
nuclear stockpile while reducing cost and schedule by enhancing 
scientific and material discovery, design optimization, manufacturing 
and certification, and expediting the deployment and surveillance 
phases of a nuclear warhead system.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $683 million for Inertial 
Confinement Fusion (ICF) will allow NNSA to address near-term weapons 
physics challenges and build on its repeated success of reaching fusion 
ignition in the laboratory. The ICF program gives NNSA experimental 
access to extreme temperature and pressure regimes characteristic of 
nuclear weapons to support design, certification, and assessment of the 
stockpile without resuming underground nuclear explosive testing. NNSA 
is currently recapitalizing and sustaining existing facilities in line 
with the ICF 10-Year Facility and Infrastructure Plan delivered to 
Congress in March 2023. The highly visible successes of the ICF program 
enhance the deterrent by demonstrating world-leading expertise in high 
energy density science and technology and providing experimental access 
to weapons-relevant physical conditions previously unattainable in the 
laboratory.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request for Enhanced Capabilities for 
Subcritical Experiments (ECSE) of $240 million coupled with the $73 
million U1a Complex Enhancements Project (UCEP) request will support 
expansion, construction, and system installations at the Principal 
Underground Laboratory for Subcritical Experimentation (PULSE) at the 
Nevada National Security Site. ECSE includes development of the Z-Pinch 
Experimental Underground System (ZEUS) and Advanced Sources Detectors 
(ASD) Scorpius instruments. Experiments with these tools at PULSE will 
provide capabilities for system-level plutonium aging experiments at 
the end of the decade and will provide an important capability to 
assess system designs for ongoing modernization programs.
Academic Programs and Community Support
    The budget request for Academic Programs and Community support is 
$128 million, an increase of 5 percent over fiscal year 2024 enacted. 
It is critical for NNSA to support external mission-relevant research, 
generate a talent pipeline in key areas of science and engineering, and 
support our communities. This funding is targeted at workforce needs 
projected to be the most critical.
Infrastructure and Operations
    The NNSA budget request for Infrastructure and Operations is $3.3 
billion, including $3.16 billion for operations and $144 million for a 
portfolio of smaller infrastructure projects. The Operations request is 
26 percent above the fiscal year 2024 enacted level. This includes 
increases for operations of facilities, safety and environmental 
operations, maintenance and repair of facilities, and recapitalization. 
To deliver our stockpile program from our legacy infrastructure base, 
especially while revitalization and new construction are underway, this 
increase is essential. As noted above, increases to both operations of 
facilities and maintenance and repair of facilities are largely tied to 
increased requirements associated with plutonium pit production. The 
other main contributor for the increases is the transition of 
management of the Savannah River Site from Environmental Management to 
NNSA. Funding throughout operations of facilities, maintenance and 
repair of facilities, and recapitalization is critical to ensure that 
NNSA can transition SRS to an enduring missionsite to support pit 
production and the broader nuclear modernization program. Additionally, 
$240 million of the $778 million requested for Recapitalization will 
fund the second phase of KCNExT, including real eState acquisition of 
the first manufacturing facility in the KCNExT portfolio.
    NNSA continues to innovate on mission-enabling construction of 
commercial-like projects to save time and taxpayer dollars while 
upgrading key capabilities. In 2023, NNSA successfully completed the 
final three projects initiated under the 2019 Enhanced Minor 
Construction and Commercial Standards (EMC2) pilot project: new 
emergency operations centers at Y-12 and Sandia National Laboratories 
and a new fire station at Y-12. NNSA experienced up to a 30 percent 
cost avoidance on these pilot projects. In August 2023, NNSA 
established a new policy institutionalizing the streamlined oversight 
and management practices from EMC2 for line-item construction projects 
up to $100 million, opening the door for future cost and time savings 
in smaller-scale non-nuclear construction.
  Enterprise Blueprint
    To better understand, synchronize, and communicate the enterprise's 
infrastructure needs, NNSA is developing an Enterprise Blueprint. The 
Blueprint will describe a 2050 vision, including facilities needed 
across the enterprise and their ties to mission needs. This will help 
reinforce NNSA's underlying philosophy of responsiveness, flexibility, 
and resiliency required to meet dynamic demands. A fully developed 
Enterprise Blueprint is expected in the latter half of 2024. The 
Blueprint will guide future investment priorities and budget requests.
Defense Nuclear Security and Secure Transportation
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $1.18 billion for Defense 
Nuclear Security, an increase of 14 percent over the fiscal year 2024 
enacted, reflects both the transition of responsibility for safeguards 
and security at the Savannah River Site from EM to NNSA, and the need 
to keep pace with new threats, particularly uncrewed aircraft systems. 
The budget request also includes an 8 percent increase for the West End 
Protected Area Reduction (WEPAR) project.
    NNSA is transitioning to a next-generation counter uncrewed 
aircraft system (CUAS) that will employ an open architecture systems-
based approach to address the evolving threat uncrewed aircraft systems 
present to NNSA facilities and personnel. Open architecture provides 
the data fusion and integration of open and proprietary sensors to 
allow NNSA to select the best available mitigation capabilities: radio 
frequency, directed energy, kinetic, and radar. Combining these 
approaches will prevent NNSA from relying on a single capability and 
allows for swift adjustments to incorporate advanced technology. The 
flexibility gained by this approach allows security planners to 
customize systems for each management and operating contract mission 
partner lab, plant, or site, based on unique location conditions. In 
fiscal year 2025, NNSA will finalize the development of a permanent 
facility at the Idaho National Laboratory for CUAS testing and 
evaluation to help security planners identify possible next-generation 
solutions, outline continuous testing requirements, and improve NNSA's 
existing CUAS platform.
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $371M for Secure 
Transportation is increased by 4 percent from the fiscal year 2024 
enacted. NNSA's Secure Transportation is essential to assure the 
security of weapons during delivery and return from the DOD and to meet 
our schedule commitments.
Information Technology and Cyber Security
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $646 million for Information 
Technology (IT) and Cyber Security is 12 percent higher than the fiscal 
year 2024 enacted in recognition of the increasing threats to cyber 
security and the ever increasing needs to improve information 
technology, including technology to support our digital engineering 
initiative. This request is 45 percent above the fiscal year 2023 
enacted to provide increased protection to our high security 
enterprise.
    NNSA faces an increasingly sophisticated and targeted cyber threat 
environment. We are recapitalizing our information technology (IT) and 
cybersecurity environments to provide a more resilient and flexible set 
of capabilities. The fiscal year 2025 budget request prioritizes 
investments in the IT and cybersecurity workforce, enterprise-scale 
cyber infrastructure, implementation of zero trust architecture, 
digital transformation, classified and unclassified commercial cloud-
based technologies, and classified wireless systems to improve mission 
outcomes across the nuclear security enterprise. NNSA is also 
conducting cyber exercises, including red teaming, to stress test 
NNSA's cybersecurity posture. We are making these investments to remain 
poised to address cyber threat and respond to cyber incidents.
                    defense nuclear nonproliferation
    The Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation budget request of $2.46 
billion continues critical investment for our nonproliferation, 
counterterrorism, and emergency response programs at this difficult 
time in global strategic stability. The fiscal year 2025 request is 
$116 million below the fiscal year 2024 enacted level. These changes 
reflect realistic planning for the pit disassembly and processing 
element of the surplus plutonium disposition program, responsible use 
of prior year funds, a one-time $50 million increase for molybdenum-99 
(Mo-99) production in fiscal year 2024, and lower legacy pension costs. 
The new investments are aimed at responding to the current and 
anticipated security environment.
    NNSA's Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation (DNN), Emergency 
Management, and Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation Programs 
(CTCP) are working in lockstep with our allies and partners, 
interagency counterparts, and international organizations like the IAEA 
to maintain and advance U.S. global nuclear threat reduction leadership 
in a shifting international landscape. This work includes cooperation 
on countering malign State and non-State capabilities, advancing the 
peaceful uses of civil nuclear energy and nuclear technology while 
managing proliferation and security risks, minimizing global stocks of 
excess weapons-usable nuclear material, advancing national technical 
capabilities in arms control and proliferation detection, and reducing 
nuclear risks in Ukraine.
Material Management and Minimization
    The core objective of the Material Management and Minimization 
portfolio is eliminating weapons-usable materials or replacing them 
with less attractive material both domestically and internationally. 
The Material Management and Minimization fiscal year 2025 budget 
request is $377 million, a decrease of $119 million, or 24 percent, 
from the fiscal year 2024 enacted level. The primary reason for the 
decrease is the decision to delay the design and construction of a Pit 
Disassembly and Processing (PDP) Facility as part of the Surplus 
Plutonium Disposition (SPD) program. The PDP delay, to be re-evaluated 
in 10 years, allows us to prioritize the removal of material from South 
Carolina. Part of the rationale for this decision involves the need to 
prioritize pit production construction and rate production during the 
same 10-year period that would be needed to stand up PDP capability. 
This would stress the construction, operational and human resources 
beyond reasonable capacity at Los Alamos and Savannah River. Although 
we are delaying PDP, real progress in SPD has been made. We are 
especially pleased that, following years of extensive planning and 
coordination, last year the first shipment of down-blended surplus 
plutonium was transported from K-Area at SRS in South Carolina to the 
Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) in New Mexico for final disposition 
and shipments have continued on a planned schedule. A total of 111.6 
kgs of NNSA surplus plutonium was dispositioned during fiscal year 
2023.
    Another key activity over the past several years has been assisting 
the final major global producer of the medical isotope Mo-99 to convert 
from using highly enriched uranium (HEU) to low enriched uranium, 
helping to ensure a stable supply of a critical medical isotope while 
eliminating an associated proliferation risk. A related effort to 
establish a reliable supply of domestically produced Mo-99 in the 
United States received a one-time increase in fiscal year 2024 as 
mentioned earlier, and a plan to utilize this increase is being 
established in consultation with Congress. NNSA continues to work with 
partners who have converted research reactors and medical isotope 
production processes by supplying the high-assay, low-enriched uranium 
(HALEU) they need to operate. This increasingly includes countries that 
are looking to alternatives to Russian supplies of HALEU.
    In fiscal year 2025, we plan to use the Mobile-Melt-Consolidate 
system developed by NNSA to begin to eliminate inventories of excess 
HEU in Norway that previously lacked a disposition pathway. To date, 
NNSA has eliminated over 7,340 kg of HEU and plutonium globally; the 
material equivalent to eliminating hundreds of nuclear weapons.
  Global Material Security
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request for Global Material Security is 
$544 million, a 3.8 percent increase over the fiscal year 2024 enacted. 
Much of the requested growth is in the nuclear smuggling detection and 
deterrence portfolio. The fiscal year 2025 request is $196 million, an 
increase of $15 million, or 8.3 percent, over the fiscal year 2024 
enacted level. NNSA has increased focus on Southeast Asia, the Middle 
East, and Africa to counter Russian and Chinese activity and influence 
in those regions. NNSA began cooperation with 16 new partners in the 
past 2 years, and by the end of fiscal year 2025, NNSA will deploy 78 
new counter nuclear smuggling systems.
    In addition to the requested growth in nuclear smuggling detection, 
Global Material Security had a smaller requested increase of 
approximately $3 million in International Nuclear Security to expand 
the nuclear power plant initiative to address sabotage and energy 
security. This program is taking the lessons from Ukraine to examine 
vulnerabilities of large nuclear power plants and mitigating risk posed 
by malign actors who might seek to disrupt or damage these facilities.
    NNSA also remains on track to meet the congressionally mandated 
deadline to replace all cesium-based blood irradiators in the United 
States by 2027. NNSA's success here goes beyond just cesium-based blood 
irradiators, in fact, NNSA eliminated over 100 blood and other types of 
radioactive-source-based devices in fiscal year 2023 in the United 
States and abroad and expects another 85 removals by the end of fiscal 
year 2024. NNSA has expanded its work to find technical capable tools 
to replace those materials posing the greatest risk of radiological 
terrorism with a greater focus on alternatives to cobalt-60 
replacements.
  Nonproliferation and Arms Control
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request for Nonproliferation and Arms 
Control is $225 million, an increase of 6 percent or $13 million over 
the fiscal year 2024 enacted. The increased budget request will support 
new activities to improve safeguarding uranium enrichment plants and 
develop policy and technical solutions to address risks associated with 
the global expansion of nuclear energy. The growth is offset by a one-
time fiscal year 2024 plus up of $12 million to accelerate the scope of 
nuclear verification efforts.
    The budget includes funding for Project Carousel, a unique 
multilateral capability that will allow the IAEA to test and validate 
technologies and train safeguards inspectors. This facility will come 
on-line at a critical time to help IAEA explore techniques for 
monitoring the large growth in civil nuclear energy.
    NNSA personnel have been closely involved in efforts to counter 
Russian and Chinese disinformation and illegal actions while promoting 
United States and allied interests. This includes working with the 
Department of State (DOS) and other interagency partners to counter 
Chinese disinformation campaigns aimed at undermining the AUKUS 
security partnership. NNSA will continue collaborating with DOS and DOD 
to advance the goals of the partnership while adhering to our 
obligations under the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty and as a 
responsible nuclear power. NNSA has also lent its expertise to the 
Global Export Control Coalition to improve the detection of Russia's 
attempted sanctions evasion to acquire material to support its ongoing 
invasion against Ukraine.
    NNSA supports the expansion of civil nuclear energy to responsible 
partners globally. Last year, NNSA was instrumental in forging a civil 
nuclear cooperation agreement between the United States and the 
Philippines. We provide support to DOS on the negotiation and 
implementation of nuclear cooperation agreements. NNSA also helps U.S. 
companies manage their international engagements without sharing 
sensitive technology. Importantly, NNSA is working directly with 
nuclear reactor developers to build in international safeguards 
concepts from the beginning, lowering the longer term deployment costs, 
increasing safeguards effectiveness, and improving the competitiveness 
of American industry for foreign deployment.
  Nuclear Nonproliferation Research and Development
    The fiscal year 2025 budget request for Nuclear Nonproliferation 
Research and Development is $803 million, an increase of 4.8 percent or 
$37 million over the fiscal year 2024 enacted.
    The fiscal year 2025 request will continue to support the 
Nonproliferation Stewardship Program at about the same level as in 
fiscal year 2024. The Forensics Research and Development (R&D) budget 
request is reduced by $7 million while maintaining existing research 
life cycle plans and making use of available carryover.
    The fiscal year 2025 request for Nuclear Detonation Detection (NDD) 
is $323 million, an increase of $37.5 million, or 13.1 percent, over 
the fiscal year 2024 enacted level. NNSA delivered to the U.S. Space 
Force (USSF) the first newly completed next-generation Global Burst 
Detector (GBD IIIF) payload for space-based nuclear detonation 
monitoring. This new sensor will provide an order of magnitude increase 
in capabilities at reduced size, weight, and power. The USSF will 
integrate the GBD IIIF onto the first GPS Block IIIF satellite as part 
of the United States Nuclear Detonation Sensor (USNDS). These improved 
capabilities are increasingly important as tactical nuclear weapons 
proliferate and the threat of regional nuclear wars increase.
    Building from this sensor capability, the R&D budget in fiscal year 
2025 request includes increased support for monitoring and verification 
capabilities for space situational awareness to reinforce arms control 
and verification missions in support of current treaties, like the 
Outer Space Treaty. This work protects our national interests and 
assets, providing information on activities all the way to the lunar 
surface and beyond.
    While Russia routinely violates its arms control commitments and 
exhibits norm-violating behavior and China has been unwilling to engage 
in meaningful bilateral or multilateral arms control, NNSA continues to 
invest in developing infrastructure, human capital, and advanced 
technologies to meet current and future monitoring and verification 
needs and prepare for potential future arms control negotiations. Last 
year, NNSA reached an important scientific and engineering milestone by 
successfully conducting a chemical explosive test in P Tunnel at the 
Nevada National Security Site. This experiment advanced our ability to 
detect very low-yield underground nuclear explosive tests around the 
world.
    The R&D request also includes $15 million for developing 
capabilities to produce assessments of how AI models may present 
nuclear and nonproliferation risks and provide recommendations for 
mitigating the potential AI threats to national security in light of 
the rapid pace of rapid technological advancement and innovation.
  Nuclear Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation
    Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation's (CTCP) core 
capabilities are to counter nuclear terrorism and nuclear proliferation 
and respond to any nuclear or radiological incident or accident 
worldwide. The fiscal year 2025 budget request of $536 million for the 
Nuclear Counterterrorism and Incident Response Program, an increase of 
6.6 percent, supports planned investments for the second phase of the 
Capability Forward initiative by developing a standardized Nuclear 
Emergency Support Team technical training program focused on actions to 
secure and defeat weapon of mass destruction (WMD) devices for Federal 
Bureau of Investigation field office responders. The fiscal year 2025 
request also supports technical and policy solutions to counter nuclear 
proliferation, capability enhancements to counter nuclear and 
radiological threats--including improved tools to locate, characterize, 
defeat and conduct forensics on these threats--and training delivery 
and capacity building for domestic and international partnerships on 
nuclear counterterrorism and emergency preparedness and response.
    NNSA is advancing the Administration's Executive Order on the Safe, 
Secure, and Trustworthy Development and Use of Artificial Intelligence. 
As outlined in the Executive Order, NNSA is working with our colleagues 
across DOE to develop tools to better understand and mitigate the risk 
of AI being misused to assist in the development or use of chemical, 
biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) threats
    The fiscal year 2025 request for CTCP's efforts in this area is $15 
million for developing the capabilities to provide recurring 
assessments of how AI models may present nuclear risks and provide 
recommendations for mitigating the potential AI threats to national 
security in light of the rapid pace of rapid technological advancement 
and innovation.
    As Russia's full-scale invasion against Ukraine enters its third 
year, DOE/NNSA's Ukraine Task Force is working to reduce nuclear risks 
in Ukraine. This includes providing equipment, training, and technical 
guidance to enable the safe and secure operation of Ukraine's nuclear 
power plants remaining under its control, protect its critical 
infrastructure, particularly the electric grid, provide situational 
awareness of any nuclear emergency that occurs in the country, and 
enhance the emergency preparedness and response capacity of our 
Ukrainian partners to respond to a nuclear event.
                             naval reactors
    The Naval Reactors budget request of $2.1 billion, an increase of 
$173 million, or 8.9 percent over the fiscal year 2024 enacted level, 
supports NNSA's close partnership with the U.S. Navy in key areas. The 
agency is advancing naval nuclear propulsion capabilities to keep the 
U.S. nuclear fleet on the cutting edge of warfighting capability, 
maintaining the assured second-strike capability of the sea-based leg 
of the nuclear triad, and building the next generation of 
infrastructure to enable continued operational success.
    The fiscal year 2025 request supports technology development work 
critical to delivering improvements in reactor performance and 
reliability, and to support in-service and future submarines and 
aircraft carriers' obsolescence and capability needs. The fiscal year 
2025 request for Naval Reactors Development is $868.4 million, an 
increase of $48 million, or 5.9 percent over the fiscal year 2024 
enacted level.
    The fiscal year 2025 request supports the continued safe and 
reliable operations, maintenance, and oversight at Naval Reactors' four 
Naval Nuclear Laboratory sites and the associated contractor workforce. 
The fiscal year 2025 request for Naval Reactors Operations and 
Infrastructure is $763.3 million, an increase of $51 million, or 7.2 
percent, over the fiscal year 2024 enacted level.
    The funding request also supports requirements for major 
initiatives: Columbia-class reactor systems development; development of 
future advanced submarine technology to support next generation 
designs; and continued progress on base technology development, 
infrastructure recapitalization at program sites, and decontamination 
and decommissioning efforts.
    Finally, Naval Reactors continues to support the AUKUS partnership 
through reimbursable work with Australia and the U.K. NNSA will 
continue its collaboration with DOS and DOD to advance the goals of the 
agreement while adhering to our obligations as a responsible nuclear 
power and a party to the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.
                     federal salaries and expenses
    The Federal Salaries and Expenses budget request of $565 million, 
an increase of 13 percent over fiscal year 2024 enacted, supports the 
recruiting, retention, and development of high-quality Federal staff 
required to meet NNSA's growing mission requirements and commitments, 
maintain the overall health of the Federal workforce, and ensure NNSA 
is able to provide effective oversight, which is essential to 
controlling costs and schedule. The increased request helps address the 
perennially lowest score that NNSA receives in the Federal Employee 
Viewpoint Survey question that states ``my workload is manageable.''
    A portion of the increased request is associated with the SRS 
landlord transition from DOE Environmental Management (EM) to NNSA. We 
anticipate the SRS transition will include a transfer of 85 FTEs.
    NNSA aims to recruit and retain a highly skilled workforce by 
offering a compelling mission, collaborative work environment, and 
incentives to compete with the private sector for a limited pool of in-
demand talents. NNSA is adjusting its hiring practices to be more 
proactive to get the right people in the right timeframe.
    NNSA appreciates Congress's support to raise the Excepted Service 
cap in the fiscal year 2024 NDAA.
                               conclusion
    Not since the Manhattan Project has there been a more challenging 
moment for the nuclear security enterprise. As the only U.S. Government 
organization capable of designing and manufacturing nuclear weapons, 
developing technical solutions to nonproliferation, and delivering 
naval reactors to the fleet, NNSA has a unique role in protecting our 
Nation and our allies and partners. The fiscal year 2025 budget request 
recognizes the significantly expanded scope of work in NNSA along with 
expected increases in efficiencies and fiscal responsibility. NNSA is 
determined to be proactive rather than reactive in promoting 
deterrence, strategic stability, and domestic and global security. We 
appreciate your continued support for the mission and people of NNSA.
    Thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today.

    Senator King. Thank you, sir.
    Admiral Wolfe.

 STATEMENT OF VICE ADMIRAL JOHNNY R. WOLFE, JR., USN, DIRECTOR 
     FOR STRATEGIC SYSTEMS PROGRAMS, DEPARTMENT OF THE NAVY

    Admiral Wolfe. Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, thank 
you for the opportunity to testify on behalf of the Department 
of the Navy's budget priorities for nuclear forces. As Director 
of Strategic Systems Programs (SSP), my mission is to provide 
credible and affordable strategic solutions to our war fighter.
    For nearly 7 decades, and with Congress's steadfast 
support, the Navy submarine force has served as the foundation 
for the U.S. strategic posture, operating on continuous patrol 
and providing assured second-strike capability.
    Since I testified before this panel last year, we have 
built on this remarkable history of deterrence marking such 
milestones as: the final demonstration and shakedown operation 
for our Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines; establishment 
of a new nuclear office for the sea launched cruise missile 
SLCM-N.
    Additionally, in coordination with our NNSA partners, we 
are initiating a nuclear weapon project to adapt a nuclear 
warhead for this new capability. This work has not been without 
its challenges. Long periods of nuclear sustainment have 
atrophied the domestic industrial base and its critical skills.
    Significant investments are required to build back capacity 
to handle multiple concurrent nuclear modernization programs. 
Furthermore, we are seeing exceptional inflation-based cost 
growth due to the aging industrial base, associated supply 
chain challenges and material obsolescence.
    Nevertheless, we must continue to sustain today's deterrent 
while modernizing for the future. First and foremost, we must 
maintain the current D5LE missile inventory and provide the 
necessary operational support to sustain Ohio-class submarines 
through the end of their life in the early 2040's.
    Second, along with PEOSSBN, we must continue to ensure a 
seamless transition between Ohio-class and Columbia-class 
submarines. For my command, SSP, this requires a seamless 
transition of the current Trident II D5LE weapon system onto 
the new Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine.
    Finally, one of the greatest advantages the United States 
has is its alliances and partnerships. For decades, United 
States policy has recognized the contribution of an independent 
British nuclear deterrent adds to NATO and indeed global 
stability. SSP will continue to support and sustain this most 
important relationship.
    Execution of these priorities is only possible through 
investment in our people, our infrastructure and our industrial 
base. Nuclear modernization will take time and I echo the 
Strategic Posture Commission's findings that urgent and 
comprehensive resourcing and whole of enterprise effort is 
absolutely essential.
    It is only through your continued support that the 
department's highest modernization priorities can be achieved 
and the Navy can deliver a reliable sea based strategic 
deterrent capability. Thank you for the opportunity to testify 
today on behalf of the dedicated Americans that make strategic 
deterrents their life's work.
    I look forward to your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Johnny Wolfe follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Vice Admiral Johnny Wolfe
                              introduction
    Chairman King, Ranking Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of 
the Subcommittee, thank you for this opportunity to discuss the 
sustainment and recapitalization of the sea-based leg of the nuclear 
triad. It is an honor to represent the Navy's Strategic Systems 
Programs (SSP) and the contributions the Navy provides to our national 
and global security through Sea Based Strategic Deterrence (SBSD).
    The Mission Priorities of SSP are to:

    1.  Sustain the Trident II D5 and Trident II Life Extension (D5LE) 
Strategic Weapons System (SWS) and ensure Nuclear Weapons Surety on the 
Ohio-class Nuclear Powered Ballistic Missile Submarine (SSBN) and in 
supporting shore facilities through 2042 while providing Naval Nuclear 
Weapons Program Technical Authority for Nuclear Weapon (NW) systems and 
Regulatory Oversight of the Navy Nuclear Deterrence Mission (NNDM). SSP 
will install and sustain the D5LE SWS onto the initial Columbia and 
United Kingdom (UK) Dreadnought SSBNs.

    2.  Develop the Columbia and UK Dreadnought SWS and advanced weapon 
capabilities in the Trident II D5 Life Extended (D5LE2) missile and 
W93/Mk7 warhead and reentry body assembly.

    3.  Consistent with congressional direction, SSP will develop and 
deliver the U.S. Navy's sea-launched cruise missile nuclear (SLCM-N) 
and non-nuclear, Conventional Prompt Strike hypersonic missile 
capability to provide the Nation with additional tailored options to 
deter strategic attacks.

    4.  Safeguard the special relationship between the United States 
and UK through the Polaris Sales Agreement (PSA) and Mutual Defense 
Agreement (MDA), benefiting both nations and supporting the UK's 
Continuous At Sea Deterrence (CASD).

    SSP's core mission comprises two fundamental lines of 
accountability: the safety and security of our Nation's strategic 
assets entrusted to the Navy; and the design, development, production, 
and sustainment of the Navy's SWS. We strive to maintain a culture of 
excellence, underpinned by rigorous self-assessment, to achieve the 
highest standards of performance and integrity for personnel supporting 
the strategic deterrent mission. We focus unremittingly on our 
tremendous responsibility for the custody and accountability of our 
Nation's nuclear assets. The SSP family--our Sailors, Marines, Navy 
Masters at Arms, Coast Guardsmen, and our industry partners--remain 
dedicated to supporting the strategic deterrence mission; ready to 
respond to the emerging needs of our Warfighter, and to protect and 
safeguard our Nation's assets with which we are entrusted. We certainly 
could not do this without the support from this Committee.
                          state of the program
    The Nation's nuclear triad is the bedrock of U.S. national defense 
and consists of intercontinental ballistic missiles, globally 
deployable heavy bombers, and SSBNs equipped with submarine-launched 
ballistic missiles (SLBM). These platforms and their associated weapons 
systems are essential to the very foundation of our Nation's security 
and survival. The Administration's 2022 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) 
affirms the following roles for nuclear weapons: deter strategic 
attacks, assure allies and partners, and achieve U.S. objectives if 
deterrence fails. While the U.S. nuclear arsenal remains safe, secure 
and effective, most U.S. nuclear deterrent systems--including the SSBN 
fleet--are operating far beyond their original design life. Replacement 
programs are ongoing, but there is no margin between the end of useful 
life of existing programs and the fielding of their replacements. As 
noted by the 2022 NPR, we need to fully fund the Columbia-class SSBN 
program to deliver a minimum of 12 boats on time, as the Ohio-class 
SSBNs begin to retire. We also need to continue to prioritize near term 
investments in the submarine industrial base, Ohio-class sustainment 
and the second life extension of the Trident II D5 SWS.
    The U.S. Navy provides the most survivable leg of the nuclear triad 
with the interdependent Ohio-class SSBNs and the Trident II D5 SWS. The 
SSBN fleet is responsible for more than 70 percent of the Nation's 
deployed nuclear warheads as defined by the New START Treaty. As the 
Navy carefully manages the approach to end of life of Ohio-class SSBNs, 
addressing the viability of the SWS throughout the life of the 
Columbia-class SSBNs remains our top priority. Columbia-class SSBNs 
will ensure the effectiveness and availability of the Nation's Sea 
Based Strategic Deterrent through the 2080's. The currently deployed 
Trident II D5LE missiles will support initial load-outs on Columbia, 
but modernization of the D5LE SWS, via D5LE2, is required to support 
later Columbia-class missile inventory and seamlessly sustain 
USSTRATCOM requirements. D5LE2 will ensure the SWS will be flexible and 
adaptable in order to maintain demonstrated performance and 
survivability despite the dynamic threat environment. The expanding 
nuclear capability and diversity of two near-peer nuclear armed 
adversaries, as described by the STRATCOM Commander in his testimony, 
has placed an even greater demand on the current SSBN fleet. The fleet 
in the past year has provided strategic messaging with port calls with 
key allies while still requiring the SSBN to operate even more covertly 
and maintain a high operational tempo.
 sws sustainment on ohio-class ssbn and procurement for columbia-class 
                                  ssbn
    The Ohio-class SSBN began a new phase of Sea Based Strategic 
Deterrence (SBSD) when it started relieving the 41 for Freedom SSBNs in 
the 1980's, initially employing the Trident I C4 SLBM and leveraging 
the nuclear warheads and missile production infrastructure of the 
original Fleet Ballistic Missile Program. As the U.S. sought to 
increase the range, accuracy, reliability, and lethality of its SLBM 
program, in 1988, USS Tennessee (SSBN734) dawned a new age of SBSD as 
she ushered in the advanced Trident II D5 Strategic Weapons System 
(SWS) in the newly built Kings Bay Naval Submarine Base, specifically 
designed to support this new weapon system. Over the following decade, 
as new Ohio-class SSBNs were brought online (SSBN 735 through SSBN 743) 
with the D5 missile system, the early Ohio-class SSBNs were also 
converted from a C4 system to align with the rest of the D5 fleet. 
Originally composed of 18 Ohio-class SSBNs, the SSBN fleet settled on a 
14-ship class carrying the Trident II D5 missile system executing SBSD, 
while the first four Ohio-class SSBNs were converted to conventional 
guided missile and special operations forces submarines (SSGN 726 
through SSGN 729). The 14 ship Ohio-class SSBN fleet remains the 
backbone of U.S. strategic deterrence. Originally designed for a 30-
year service life, the Ohio-class submarines were called upon to extend 
this service to 42 years, supporting a delay in investment in the next 
generation of SSBNs. To account for this extension in service life, SSP 
embarked on a life extension program for the D5 missiles to update 
critical but aging missile electronics systems. SSP introduced the 
Trident II D5 Life Extension (D5LE) program to the fleet in 2017 and 
will continue through 2025 to convert D5 missiles to D5LE when they are 
pulled off the SSBNs during normal missile maintenance times.
    The final Ohio-class SSBN, USS Louisiana (SSBN 743), which 
completed her mid-life Engineered Refueling Overhaul (ERO) last year 
has returned to support the sea-based strategic deterrent until her 
scheduled retirement in 2042. SSP must ensure the ``no fail'' SBSD 
mission is supported on the Ohio-class through 2042, providing a 
reliable Trident II D5/D5LE weapons systems with W76 and W88 warheads 
until this final ship of the class is decommissioned. In parallel, 
SSP's program efforts and collaboration with the UK through the PSA 
will support the UK's Continuous At Sea Deterrence through Vanguard-
class life and the transition to a Dreadnought-class SSBN fleet.
    In support of USSTRATCOM, we have recognized the challenges 
presented by an unprecedented strategic landscape of two nuclear peers 
who are actively seeking to undermine the rules-based international 
order. In order to meet emerging threats posed by this environment, SSP 
has made an effort to ensure greater flexibility to execute our 
mission, both today and in the future. These investments seek to expand 
operating environments for the SSBN. As stated by USSTRATCOM Commander, 
``These long-term investments are critical to ensure a safe, secure, 
effective and credible strategic force that can defend our national 
interests.''
           trident ii d5 life extension and life extension 2
    The Trident II D5 SWS capability has been deployed on the Ohio-
class SSBN for more than three decades and is planned to be deployed 
more than 55 years. This demand to maintain demonstrated high 
performance while extending the service life past initial design 
requirements required a missile life extension effort, D5LE. The 
current Trident D5 Life Extension (D5LE) remains an effective and 
credible Strategic Weapon System on both the Ohio-class and Columbia-
class SSBNs into the 2040's, supporting the Ohio-class submarine 
through end of service life and serving as the initial Strategic Weapon 
System for the Columbia and UK Dreadnought-class SSBNs.
    As the Navy carefully manages the approach to end of life of our 
Ohio-class SSBNs, we must address the viability of the SWS throughout 
the life of the Columbia-class SSBNs. A minimum of 12 Columbia-class 
SSBNs will replace today's 14 Ohio SSBNs and beginning in fiscal year 
2030, D5LE missiles will support initial loadouts on Columbia (Hulls 1-
8). Production of additional D5LE missiles is not practical due to 
obsolete parts and the lack of a robust industrial base. In order to 
meet inventory requirements and maintain a credible strategic deterrent 
in the face of evolving threats, a second life extension of the Trident 
II Strategic Weapons System (D5LE2) is required to be designed, 
engineered, produced and deployed by Columbia Hull #9's strategic 
outload. It will be incorporated on UK Dreadnought class SSBNs, all 
follow on Columbia hulls, as well as Columbia hulls 1-8 during their 
Extended Refit Period from fiscal year 2039 to 2049 to continue to meet 
USSTRATCOM requirements. D5LE2's architecture will ensure the weapon 
system maintains demonstrated performance and remains survivable while 
facing a dynamic threat environment driven by two near peer competitors 
until Columbia and UK Dreadnought end of life.
    D5LE2 is a hybrid of pull-through cost-effective technology (e.g., 
solid rocket motors, ignitors) and redesigned and updated components 
(e.g., avionics, guidance, system architecture). D5LE2 is structured to 
maintain today's unmatched reliability and demonstrated performance, 
while unlocking untapped system potential to efficiently respond to 
emerging needs and to maintain a credible Sea Based Strategic 
Deterrent. Fiscal year 2025 activities continue critical Missile and 
Guidance technology work, commencing multiple subsystem redesigns, 
industrial base development activities and definitization of system 
level requirements for the D5LE2 program. The D5LE2 subprogram will 
achieve Milestone B in 2025.
    Unlike SLBM programs of the past, D5LE2 does not have the benefit 
of a healthy defense industrial base that comes from maintaining 
production and continuous development. The 2022 NPR reiterated the need 
for D5LE2 and stated that the United States will prioritize near-term 
investments to ``ensure that D5LE2 is effective in the expected threat 
environment and delivers on time.'' The 2022 bi-partisan, 
congressionally mandated Strategic Posture Committee Report recommended 
fully supporting development and deployment of D5LE2 ``to ensure U.S. 
nuclear strategy remains effective in a two-nuclear-peer environment.'' 
In short, full support of D5LE2 today is vital to achieving 2039 
Initial Fleet Introduction and to embarking on a path that maintains an 
SLBM deterrent capability through the service life of the Columbia and 
UK Dreadnought-class SSBNs.
    The Navy must also recapitalize infrastructure across the breadth 
of the Navy's Nuclear Enterprise. The Strategic Weapons Facilities and 
the Naval Ordinance Test Unit support current SSBN operations in 
addition to their missions to develop and produce D5LE2; these 
facilities require modernization. Consistent and timely resourcing is 
required to maintain our continuous presence at sea in accordance with 
USSTRATCOM requirements.
             sea-launched cruise missile, nuclear (slcm-n)
    The Congress, in Section 1640 of the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA (Public 
Law 118-31), directed establishment of a Major Defense Acquisition 
Program for a sea-launched cruise missile nuclear (SLCM-N). The weapon 
will contribute a supplemental capability to reinforce theater regional 
deterrence, a key objective of the 2022 NPR.
    In accordance with Section 1640, the Navy has begun efforts to 
enable a program start, leading to an initial operating capability 
(IOC) in 2034, as directed by the Fiscal Year 2024 NDAA. In March 2024, 
Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment LaPlante, 
signed an Acquisition Decision Memorandum directing the Navy to 
establish a program office and begin the analysis phase. SSP is also 
supporting ongoing discussions between the Administration and Congress 
on options to execute the SLCM-N program in a manner that balances 
cost, deterrence value, and risk to the program of record and the Joint 
Force. Executing this program successfully will require careful 
balancing of SLCM-N programmatic manning with on-going Navy programs, 
which draw from a limited pool of experienced government personnel and 
the same nuclear weapons industrial base.
    Research and development funding appropriated to the Navy in fiscal 
year 2023 enabled initial development of a Concept of Operations 
(CONOPS), assessment of the impact to the current attack submarine 
mission, development of an acquisition strategy, initiation of cost and 
financial management, systems engineering, requirements development, 
and logistics planning to prepare for the upcoming Milestone A. The 
Navy is ready to execute fiscal year 2024 funding as appropriated to 
complete Materiel Solution Analysis (MSA) concept and feasibility 
studies, to meet the requirements for a successful Milestone A 
decision.
                  warhead and reentry body activities
    The Navy is also working in partnership with the Department of 
Energy's National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) to refurbish 
our existing reentry systems and develop new reentry systems in 
response to USSTRATCOM requirements. As the threat environment the 
nuclear enterprise faces continues to evolve, it is critical that the 
Navy designs, develops, and deploys programs that meet the needs of the 
Warfighter. The Trident II D5 missile is capable of carrying two types 
of warhead families today, the W76 and the W88. The W93/Mk7 warhead and 
reentry body system will be designed for use on both the D5LE and D5LE2 
missiles and, through the Polaris Sales Agreement and Mutual Defense 
Agreement (as amended), will support the United Kingdom's sovereign 
Replacement Warhead program. In 2019, NNSA completed the W76-1 Life 
Extension Program (W76-1/Mk4A), marking the U.S. stockpile's first 
full-scale warhead refurbishment program. The Navy continues to work on 
modernizing integrated aeroshells that house these warheads through the 
Mk4B program with the inclusion of a Shape Stable Nose Tip, which 
reduces reentry variability and improves performance margins.
    The W88/Mk5 warhead continues to undergo a refurbishment program. 
The Navy and NNSA coordinated on tightly coupled schedules for the 
fleet, the nuclear enterprise weapons complex, and production of 
affected non-nuclear components. This program reached the First 
Production Unit milestone in 2021 and achieved Initial Operational 
Capability in January 2022. I am confident that our teams will continue 
to work together to manage and deliver this program, as we have 
historically addressed refurbishment challenges with a mission-focused 
attitude and rigor. The Navy will continue to prioritize meeting our 
Warfighters' requirements and minimizing disruption to the operational 
fleet to ensure that the sea-based leg of the triad continues to 
fulfill its deterrence mission. However, these critical programs will 
continue to suffer schedule challenges and experience compounding 
technical and programmatic risk without consistent and timely funding.
    W93/Mk7 will provide flexibility and adaptability to meet future 
warfighter needs. With the near simultaneous age out of the deployed 
stockpile in the 2040's, the W93/Mk7 will help address production 
concerns in the weapons complex and ensure an uninterrupted at-sea 
deterrent for the sea-based leg of the nuclear triad. In 2021, the Navy 
entered Phase 1 of the joint Department of Defense-Department of Energy 
Nuclear Weapons Lifecycle Process with NNSA for the W93. This effort 
will address evolving ballistic missile warhead modernization 
requirements; improve operational effectiveness for USSTRATCOM; and 
mitigate technical, operational, and programmatic risk in the sea-based 
leg of the nuclear triad while simultaneously reinvigorating the 
atrophied industrial base. In fiscal year 2022, the W93 program 
received NWC authorization to proceed into Phase 2, Feasibility Study 
and Design Options, which will further refine and mature the design of 
the W93/Mk7 program in a manner that provides an affordable, credible, 
safe, and secure weapon to the Warfighter. The W93/Mk7 will not 
increase the size of the deployed stockpile and will not require 
nuclear explosive testing. The Navy will work in close coordination 
with the DOD, NNSA, the NWC, and the Congress as this effort matures.
                   industrial base and infrastructure
    The nation requires a fully modernized nuclear force and supporting 
infrastructure to execute our national strategy. Our modernization 
needs cannot succeed without investing in the research and development 
(R&D), critical skills, and facilities needed to produce, sustain, and 
certify our nuclear systems. Ensuring robust defense and aerospace 
industrial base capabilities--such as radiation-hardened electronics, 
strategic inertial instrumentation, and solid rocket motors--remains an 
important priority in conjunction with R&D investment. SSP has placed 
particular emphasis on the solid rocket motor industry and its sub-tier 
suppliers and appreciates the support of Congress to allow for the 
sustained production of these vital components. Essential to the 
nuclear deterrent is a national aeroshell production capability. The 
Navy has not delivered an integrated aeroshell since the 1980's and 
needs to reinvigorate a production capability that only resides in a 
small cadre of highly skilled experts in an exceptionally niche 
industry. Aeroshell investment supports the Navy but will also be cost-
effectively leveraged by our colleagues in the Air Force--and also our 
strategic partners in the United Kingdom as they pursue their 
independent warhead program endeavors. Finally, R&D investment is 
critical to today's nuclear modernization needs to ensure that we 
advance necessary technology ahead of design needs and to train our 
workforce during the early years of development. If the Nation does not 
continue to address these concerns, no amount of money will be able to 
adequately mitigate the risks associated with key stockpile and 
infrastructure losses.
    Regarding the program's infrastructure, existing facilities are 
reaching their 30-year recapitalization windows as we enter into a 
once-in-a-generation transition of both the weapons system and 
platform. The Navy relies on a limited footprint to process missiles 
and outfit the SSBNs. Maintaining and sustaining facilities is critical 
to meeting USSTRATCOM and Fleet mission requirements. We must continue 
to make smart investments to address capability gaps, through-put 
constraints, and build in surge capacity to address requirements 
presented by new and emerging threats. The Administration has shown its 
commitment to investment in our strategic infrastructure with the 
funding of multiple MILCON projects in fiscal year 2024 that are 
required for the on-time delivery of the D5LE2 SWS. We are re-
establishing pad launch capabilities on Florida's Space Coast over four 
decades after the final Trident II D5 X-Flight in January 1989, as well 
as modernizing and sustaining our Strategic Weapons Facilities that 
will produce and deliver D5LE2 missiles to the Fleet. Our Nation and 
the Navy will continue to prioritize and resource the sustainment and 
modernization of its nuclear infrastructure enterprise to provide an 
effective and flexible deterrent now and into the future.
    As the Navy executes the modernization and replacement of the SSBN 
and associated SLBM leg of the nuclear triad, DOD and NNSA's 
infrastructure must be prepared to respond in tandem to the evolving 
needs of the Nation. Of utmost importance, we must have an effective, 
resilient, and responsive plutonium pit production capability. This 
capability can address age-related risks, support planned 
refurbishments, as well as prepare for future uncertainty. 
Additionally, tritium, lithium, and uranium, and high explosives and 
energetics, among other strategic materials, are vital to ensuring the 
Navy can continue to meet its strategic deterrent requirements. Efforts 
to sustain and modernize deterrent forces must continue. Our strategic 
forces underpin every military operation around the world, and we 
cannot afford to delay given the increasing threats facing our Nation.
    The return on investment in our strategic deterrent capabilities is 
considerable. Not only do our strategic nuclear capabilities underpin 
every military operation around the world, but they also assure our 
allies and partners incentivizing them to work with us, and most 
importantly provide the ultimate insurance policy against strategic 
attack on the American people. Today, the national security components 
of the Federal budget represent less than 15 percent of total Federal 
outlays. The nuclear component itself is an even smaller portion of 
these outlays. In fact, if the entire planned procurement cost of the 
Columbia SSBN force were obligated in a single year, it would only 
account for less than 2 percent of the entire Federal budget. This 2 
percent represents a once in a generation recapitalization of the sea-
based deterrent leg and will carry our deterrent force out to 2080--a 
fifty-year return on investment.
                               workforce
    History reminds us that the swift, successful creation and 
execution of the Fleet Ballistic Missile program in the 1950's was 
truly a result of national commitment, congressional support, and a 
cadre of hand-selected scientists, engineers, and inspirational 
leaders. Though process will always underpin our efforts, our dedicated 
predecessors--civilians, military, and industry partners alike--
responded to the national need with focused determination and drove 
this program with a vision. People are as fundamental to our nuclear 
deterrent as the SWS itself. Today, SSP and its industry partners are 
focused on inspiring, growing, and retaining a generation of workforce 
that did not live through the darkest days of the cold war. Connecting 
a new workforce to this fundamental global security mission remains an 
important task shared among the entire nuclear enterprise. A capable, 
credible, and affordable strategic deterrent for our Nation for the 
next 60 years requires not only technical, policy, management, and 
financial acumen--it requires passion and a commitment to making this 
our life's work.
    SSP has made significant strides in recent years to honor our past, 
innovate our present, and ensure our future workforce is connected to 
the fundamental global security mission. In order to create the ideal 
workforce and workplace, SSP developed its first SSP Human Capital 
Operating Plan (HCOP) in fiscal year 2019. The HCOP is a 5-year plan 
aligning human capital initiatives to SSP's strategic goals. Through 
the HCOP, SSP introduced a variety of initiatives to attract, develop, 
and retain a premier workforce. Building on the success of the previous 
HCOP, SSP recently issued a new HCOP in fiscal year 2023 with refined 
strategies to support mission readiness. The three goals and associated 
successes are outlined below.
    Goal 1--Recruitment: continue to implement and elevate creative 
strategies to recruit highly qualified candidates to meet SSP's current 
and future demands in support of SBSD 2084. Accomplishments toward this 
end include: increasing entry-level developmental positions to build a 
pipeline of talent; implementing the SSP Newcomer Onboarding Workshop 
to better acclimate new employees to SSP via a cohort structure; 
developing workforce dashboards to increase the accuracy and 
transparency of human capital and manpower data; and streamlining 
hiring and onboarding processes;
    Goal 2--Development: buildupon SSP's talent base by empowering 
individuals with technical and professional opportunities to execute 
the Nation's premier weapons system through a robust portfolio of 
developmental tools and leadership programs. Accomplishments toward 
this end include: redefining supervisor expectations; offering 
supervisor and soft skill training; hosting supervisor luncheons to 
share resources and best practices; expanding coaching, mentoring, and 
cross-training opportunities; and developing career path roadmaps;
    Goal 3--Retention: communicate and buildupon SSP's collaborative 
culture that strives for technical excellence by implementing effective 
strategies including fulfilling SSP career paths while fostering a 
diverse and inclusive workplace where all individuals perform to their 
full potential. Accomplishments toward this end include: expanding 
employee recognition to include development of a new award for 
supervisors; increasing leadership involvement in health and wellness 
events; and executing a communication strategy to promote 
participation, communicate results, and develop action plans in 
response to the Defense Organizational Climate Survey and Federal 
Employee Viewpoint Survey.
               polaris sales agreement: support to the uk
    Fundamental to U.S. strategic and extended deterrence policies is 
the special relationship between the U.S. and the UK through the 1963 
Polaris Sales Agreement, as amended (PSA) and the 1958 Mutual Defense 
Agreement, as amended (MDA). Under the PSA, the U.S. sells the Trident 
II SWS to the UK along with associated defense services. Under the MDA, 
the U.S. cooperates with the UK on the uses of atomic energy for mutual 
defense purposes. The two agreements are complementary, and together 
enable the U.S. Navy to sell SWS delivery system and reentry body 
equipment to the UK, as well as to exchange classified information, 
including atomic information, with the UK. This framework has ensured 
the United States' ability to support the UK with capabilities to 
ensure a robust nuclear deterrent. The Common Missile Compartment (CMC) 
represents the most recent example of the PSA partnership, in which the 
two nations are designing, developing, and producing common shipboard 
infrastructure which improves the ease of comingling the D5 missile 
inventory and sets the stage to improve maintenance system consistency 
across the two fleets. SSP will support PEO SSBN throughout the 2020's 
as they oversee U.S. industry delivery of CMC components to both navies 
for installation into their new SSBNs. As with Columbia, the 
Dreadnought-class SSBNs will initially carry the D5LE missile. The 
development of the Mk7 reentry system to support the U.S. W93 warhead 
program is also critical to the development of a next generation 
nuclear warhead and reentry system for the UK. The two nations are 
working separate but parallel warhead programs with collaboration 
between the two.
    Last year marked sixty years since our two governments signed the 
PSA. With sixty years behind us, SSP will continue to nurture and 
safeguard this special relationship with the UK to sustain the SBSD and 
support UK Continuous At Sea Deterrence (CASD) of today while 
modernizing and building flexibility, adaptability, and resiliency into 
SBSD 2084 and the UK's future CASD.
                               conclusion
    Our Nation's sea-based strategic deterrent has been a critical 
component of our national security since the 1950's and must continue 
to assure our allies and partners and to deter potential adversaries 
well into the future. SSP ensures a safe, secure, effective, flexible, 
and tailorable strategic deterrent, with a steadfast focus on the 
proper stewardship, custody, and accountability of the nuclear assets 
entrusted to the Navy. Sustaining and modernizing the sea-based 
strategic deterrent capability is a vital national security 
requirement. I am privileged to represent this unique organization as 
we work to serve the best interests of our great Nation. I thank the 
committee for the opportunity to speak with you about the sea-based leg 
of the nuclear triad and the vital role it plays in our national and 
global security.

    Senator King. Thank you, Admiral.
    General Bussiere.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL THOMAS A. BUSSIERE, USAF, COMMANDER OF 
                 AIRFORCE GLOBAL STRIKE COMMAND

    General Bussiere. Good afternoon, Chairman King, Ranking 
Member Fischer, and distinguished Members of this Committee.
    I'm honored to represent the men and women of Air Force 
Global Strike Command and provide you an update on our mission, 
our airmen, and our ongoing modernization efforts, and the 
challenges in sustaining our legacy weapon systems.
    I'd like to thank Congress for its support not only to 
national defense, but the Air Force's long-range strike and 
nuclear deterrence missions. My full statement has been 
submitted for the record.
    Air Force Global Strike Command was established in 2009 to 
ensure focused leadership and oversight of the Air Force's 
Nuclear mission. I am grateful to the Members of this Committee 
for your steadfast support as we continue to move forward with 
the modernization of our weapon systems.
    The timely modernization of our nuclear triad which Global 
Strike is responsible for two-thirds, remains the commands' 
paramount focus. With our current modernization efforts, 
including our land-based ICBMs, Bomber Force, Helicopter Force, 
nuclear command and control platforms, weapons generation 
facilities and nuclear weapons.
    This Committee is keenly aware of the threats facing our 
Nation today and in the foreseeable future. We currently face 
the challenge of deterring two major nuclear armed competitors, 
the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation. Both 
armed with modern and diverse nuclear capabilities. 
Additionally, we are aware of the escalating nuclear threat 
presented by the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK), 
and the possibility of a nuclear-armed Iran.
    Not only is the command leading the charge in sustaining 
current forces in deploying future long-range strike weapon 
systems, Global Strike Command is acutely aware that the 
nuclear deterrence mission is the bedrock of our National 
Defense Strategy and foundational to our Nation's defense and 
essential to that of our allies and partners.
    The Air Force Nuclear Enterprise is at a critical juncture. 
Our operational margin is razor thin. Our resources are 
stretched to their limits. Today, I request your continued 
support as we confront these pressing challenges while 
upholding our Nation's security.
    Thank you. I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Thomas A. Bussiere 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Thomas A. Bussiere
                              introduction
    Air Force Global Strike Command (AFGSC) provides strategic 
deterrence and long-range strike, anytime, anywhere, as mandated by the 
President and the Commander of United States Strategic Command 
(USSTRATCOM). Not only is the command leading the charge in sustaining 
current forces and deploying future long-range strike weapon systems, 
the command also remains the cornerstone of our National Defense 
Strategy. However, our command is at a critical juncture. Our 
operational margin is razor-thin, our resources are stretched to their 
utmost limits, and the demand for our capabilities remains relentless 
while our adversaries are increasing and diversifying their nuclear 
capabilities at an alarming rate. Today, I urgently appeal for your 
immediate support as we confront these pressing challenges while 
safeguarding our Nation's security.
    AFGSC forces are continuously deployed worldwide, supporting all 
Combatant Commands (CCMDs). Our missile and bomber forces are deterring 
every day, ready to execute nuclear taskings and conduct long-range 
strikes anywhere on the globe at any given moment as part of the 
Department's integrated deterrence approach. Simultaneously, AFGSC 
embarked on an historical, crucial nuclear modernization and 
recapitalization effort, replacing and refurbishing aging bombers, 
intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), helicopters, command and 
control aircraft, and standoff weapons. This strategic imperative to 
modernize is not just important; it is long overdue. The nation cannot 
afford a lapse or decline in our force posture as we introduce new 
capabilities, as part of the Department's broader integrated deterrence 
approach. We must maintain an unbroken nuclear backstop to underpin all 
other elements of national power.
    As the Commander of AFGSC, my priority is ensuring mission 
readiness, excellence, and pride in our service to the Nation; service 
with an amazing history and a boundless future among our ``Strikers.'' 
These priorities are not just words but the pillars of integrated 
deterrence, providing crucial long-range conventional and nuclear 
strike capabilities for our Allies and partners. Despite a shifting and 
challenging geopolitical landscape, we maintain our ability to execute 
nuclear options, when directed by the President of the United States, 
safely and reliably while ensuring conventional strike. Our daily 
efforts are the bedrock of national defense, a privilege we execute 
with unwavering dedication. However, dedication is not enough. We need 
your continued support and stable funding to equip our airmen to 
compete effectively in this ever-changing and challenging strategic 
environment.
                      global security environment
    Currently, the United States, along with Allies and partners, faces 
the challenge of deterring two major nuclear-armed competitors 
possessing modern and diverse nuclear capabilities: the People's 
Republic of China (PRC) and the Russian Federation--who openly stated 
it is moving nuclear weapons to neighboring Belarus. Additionally, we 
confront the escalating nuclear threat presented by the Democratic 
People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) and the possibility of nuclear 
armament by the Islamic Republic of Iran if it decides to pursue a 
nuclear weapon.
    The PRC continues to be the pacing challenge for the United States 
as Beijing continues to expand, modernize, and diversify its nuclear 
and conventional forces. The PRC's growing stockpile of deliverable 
air-, ground-, and sea-launched weapon systems pose a challenge to 
current United States and Allied missile defense systems beyond the 
Second Island Chain. Beijing remains on an accelerated pace to possess 
at least 1,000 operational nuclear warheads by the end of the decade, 
complicating the requirements for United States deterrence globally. 
The PRC's establishment of new silo fields and new ICBMs will only 
enhance the degree of survivability, reliability, and effectiveness of 
PRC nuclear forces. Consequently, Beijing will possess new options for 
coercive purposes before and during a crisis or conflict. The PRC is 
also rapidly modernizing air and sea conventional capabilities with 
next-generation aircraft and enhanced naval strike weapons to keep 
United States and Allied forces outside of optimum employment 
parameters in a regional conflict. Thus, the PRC raises the risk to 
United States and allied forces in the region.
    Russia continues to emphasize nuclear weapons in its overall 
security strategy, even more so as Moscow faces significant 
conventional losses during its on-going war against Ukraine. It is 
estimated that as of the end of 2023, Russian forces had suffered 
315,000 casualties since the beginning of its full-scale and illegal 
invasion of Ukraine. By the end of 2024, if the current casualty rate 
continues, Russian forces will have lost over half a million personnel 
in Ukraine. While the conventional threat to NATO appears to have 
waned, Russia maintains a robust nuclear force with modernized systems 
and a growing arsenal of novel asymmetric weapons. The end of this 
conflict remains unclear. However, it is evident that President Putin 
has no intention of halting the fight and losing face. Russia's nuclear 
rhetoric and signaling continue and remain unresponsive to 
international messaging and pressure.
    While the DPRK is not a rival on the same scale as the PRC and 
Russia, it presents deterrence dilemmas for the United States and our 
Allies and partners. The DPRK poses a persistent threat and growing 
danger to the United States homeland and the Indo-Pacific region. The 
DPRK continues to expand, diversify, and improve both conventional and 
nuclear strike capabilities. The development of liquid-and solid-fueled 
missile systems will further complicate our ability to monitor and 
react to ballistic missile threats. The DPRK has expanded partnerships 
with both the PRC and Russia which provides political cover for the Kim 
regime's nuclear weapons expansion. The DPRK rhetoric also continues to 
become more confrontational as the United States and the Republic of 
Korea conduct strategic exercises and bring strategic assets into the 
theater. The situation remains tense on the Peninsula. A conflict on 
the Peninsula could involve multiple nuclear-armed actors, raising the 
risk of escalation and nuclear employment.
    Iran does not today possess a nuclear weapon. However, Iran does 
continue to expand its nuclear program in concerning ways, including by 
producing highly enriched uranium. Tehran continues to enhance military 
capabilities, holding the largest inventory of ballistic missiles in 
the region and funds militia groups and terrorist organizations 
throughout the Middle East. Iran also continues to pursue destabilizing 
policies across the region, providing material and lethal support to a 
range of United States designated terrorist organizations and militia 
groups. Indeed, Iran's longstanding support to Hamas enabled the 
October 7th terrorist attack against Israel and its continued support 
to the Houthis has enabled the ongoing attacks on commercial shipping 
in the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden and numerous attacks on United States 
forces across the region. Should Iran decide to pursue a nuclear 
weapon, Iran would further challenge United States deterrence and 
assurance, which is why United States policy is to ensure Iran cannot 
acquire a nuclear weapon.
                               operations
ICBM Operations
    As the nuclear triad's land-based component, the Minuteman III 
(MMIII) ICBM system is our most responsive strategic deterrent option 
and maintains the highest degree of nuclear command and control among 
the triad. Geographically dispersed, reliable, and highly responsive, 
the MMIII force denies adversaries a perceived first-strike benefit. 
The MMIII was introduced 50 years ago with a planned 10-year service 
life. The robust design of MMIII, along with the dedication of our 
airmen who support ICBM operations and Air Force investments, ensure a 
high availability rate even as end-of-life margins collapse.
    The MMIII weapon system evaluation program evaluates CCMD 
reliability models and strategic planning factors. There are, however, 
limitations in test architecture that will impact testing capability as 
the MMIII moves closer to end of life:

    1.  Operational Test Launch (OTL) requirements will encounter test 
assembly scarcity and challenges with fielded missile components.

    2.  Starting in Fiscal Year 2030 (FY30), the United States Space 
Force (USSF) Autonomous Flight Safety System Implementation requirement 
will inhibit MMIII from being launched outside the Western Range. 
Without a waiver, MMIII testing cannot continue beyond 2030.

    3.  AFGSC anticipates a rise in range requirements due to MMIII OTL 
and other Department of Defense (DoD) weapons systems.

    Sentinel, the LGM-35A Ground-Based Strategic Deterrent, is intended 
to replace the MMIII weapons system. The Sentinel program requires the 
replacement of every facet of the MMIII weapon system, including flight 
systems, command and control, launch systems, missile silos, control 
centers, and other ground infrastructure. It's important to stress much 
of the infrastructure has been in place for over 50 years requiring a 
substantial replacement effort. In January 2024, the Sentinel program 
triggered a Nunn-McCurdy breach. AFGSC has partnered with Assistant 
Secretary of the Air Force (Acquisition, Technology, and Logistics) 
leadership to support the DOD review of the Sentinel program, as 
required by the Nunn-McCurdy statute.
    As we continue to modernize the land-based leg of the nuclear 
triad, balancing current operations with modernization will present 
many challenges--none insurmountable with coordinated, disciplined 
execution and teamwork. To prioritize these challenges, with the 
assistance of Congress, I have established the AFGSC ICBM Modernization 
Directorate. The directorate comprises current and new personnel to 
ensure a graceful retirement of MMIII. The new directorate is currently 
operational and anticipates Full Operational Capability (FOC) in fiscal 
year 2025.
Security Response Forces
    Steadfast and highly trained, our nuclear security teams stand 
ready to defend our Nation's nuclear deterrent. However, leaders face a 
multitude of new challenges associated with organizing, training, and 
equipping a substantial force of dedicated professionals in the context 
of today's threats. Across AFGSC bomber and missile bases, our airmen 
continue to defend critical assets in extreme environments and traverse 
vast expanses of the northern-tier missile fields. AFGSC Security 
Forces manning requirements will continue to increase due to nuclear 
modernization and transition.
    In 2015, the Up Armored High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle 
(UAHMMWV) was flagged as a safety concern in the USAF Hazard Report 
submitted to Congress. AFGSC responded to these safety issues by 
implementing a strategy involving the procurement and deployment of a 
diversified fleet comprised of Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs). 
The Security Forces enterprise embarked on a modernization initiative 
for its armored vehicle fleet by introducing the JLTV. The first 
nuclear security mission with JLTVs was completed in 2023. Headquarters 
Air Force opted to centralize procurement of the JLTVs, with funding 
allocated through Air Force Material Command (AFMC). Each JLTV, priced 
at approximately $1.2 million, includes essential mission support 
equipment crucial for Security Forces Airmen engaged in nuclear 
security. AFGSC anticipates the incremental delivery of 208 JLTVs 
through fiscal year 2030, enhancing operational safety and 
effectiveness.
    In 2021, AFGSC conducted a Limited User Evaluation of the JLTV 
which identified the necessity for a mixed fleet of armored vehicles to 
sufficiently support the unique operating environments and diverse 
capabilities required for varying AFGSC mission sets. In collaboration 
with the Pentagon, AFGSC pursued the Armored Utility Vehicle (AUV) as a 
Level-1 armored vehicle, weighing 12,000 pounds, as opposed to the 
22,500-pound JLTV. Following rigorous source selection procedures, the 
AUV has now entered an open Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity 
contract for 303 units, contingent upon funding availability.
    To mitigate safety concerns, AFGSC enacted a tactical pause for 
UAHMMWV use while seeking to rapidly replace the vehicles with the more 
capable JLTVs and AUVs. The commander-directed UAHMMWV pause enabled a 
deliberate training and certification relook. Additionally, the pause 
enabled the restructuring of the vehicle's use in the demanding missile 
field environments. Today, UAHMMWVs remain available for limited use in 
the missile fields to ensure operational warfighter readiness.
    To complement JLTVs and provide a more effective and safer patrol 
vehicle, AFGSC seeks to urgently procure AUVs. Any delay in purchasing 
the AUVs poses a significant risk to our Security Forces Airmen who 
travel 3.5 million miles a year across ICBM fields. It is imperative 
that adequate funding and accelerated fielding be utilized to mitigate 
risk to our Defenders. We need your support for an $84 million 
reprogramming action. The reprogramming action will allow AFGSC to 
secure 301 modified Ford F-350's for the safe movement of Security 
Forces Airmen conducting nuclear security missions throughout our 
Global Strike missile field complexes, and ultimately reducing the risk 
of future mishaps and unnecessary loss of life. I request congressional 
support to field the AUV.
    The fielding of the MH-139 ``Grey Wolf'' represents a generational 
leap forward in nuclear security capability for AFGSC, as the 
replacement for the Vietnam era UH-1N. The capability of the Grey Wolf 
advances tactical ICBM operations and is essential to securing the 
ground-based leg of the nuclear triad. In March 2024, the MH-139 
program transitioned from the Developmental Testing phase to the 
Initial Operational Testing and Evaluation (IOT&E) phase. IOT&E is 
scheduled to conclude in early 2025. The provisional 550th Helicopter 
Squadron (550 HS) will conduct IOT&E under AFOTEC supervision at 
Malmstrom AFB, MT. Once IOT&E is complete, the 550 HS will focus on 
training UH-1N aircrew on the MH-139 platform. The MH-139 program is 
scheduled to reach Initial Operational Capability (IOC) in late Spring 
of 2025. Following Malmstrom AFB's UH-1N transition to the MH-139, F.E. 
Warren AFB will begin transitioning to the MH-139 in 2026. Minot AFB is 
scheduled to begin transitioning in 2027. Simultaneous to Malmstrom 
AFB's IOT&E, Air Force Reserve Command's 703 Helicopter Squadron (703d 
HS) will prepare to take over Flying Training Unit (FTU) duties at 
Maxwell AFB. The 703 HS expects FTU execution in late 2026.
Bomber Operations
    Like the ICBM force, the bomber force is engaged daily. AFGSC 
bomber forces stand ready to execute nuclear taskings and are poised to 
conduct long-range strike anywhere in the world. A clear example 
occurred in February 2024 when two B-1B bombers flew non-stop from the 
United States, struck Iran-aligned militia group supported targets in 
Syria, and returned to land at home station, in the United States. 
AFGSC provides direct support to each CCMD via Bomber Task Force and 
CONUS to CONUS missions. Our forces consistently operate at maximum 
capacity, leaving minimal room for operational flexibility or 
additional surge capacity.
    As AFGSC continues to modernize the B-52H and develop the B-21, we 
must also sustain B-1B and B-2A aircraft until the B-21 is operational 
at each main operating base. A fully funded and sustained bomber force 
ensures we have a credible conventional and nuclear deterrent and also 
the immediate capability to meet Combatant Commanders' operational 
requirements. AFGSC will work with the Secretary of the Air Force's 
staff to obtain waivers of the 5-year ``sunset'' prohibition on 
modernizing aircraft scheduled to retire, which is codified at Section 
2244a of Title 10, as doing so is clearly in the national security 
interest of the United States. Leveraging this statutory authority for 
the B-1B and B-2A is essential to maintaining AFGSC's nuclear deterrent 
capabilities while completing modernization programs impacting all Air 
Force bombers.
    Until the B-21 Raider fleet is fully fielded, the B-1B will 
continue to play a prominent role in USAF global power projection. To 
prepare for emerging threats from peer competitors, modernization and 
sustainment must continue. Today, the B-1B backstops global operations 
through Bomber Task Forces missions that display the aircraft's ability 
to operate from decentralized locations like Lulea-Kallax Air Base, 
Sweden and Bengaluru, India.
    The B-2A Spirit is the only penetrating bomber in the USAF. The 
platform and crews remain the cornerstone of the bomber force and our 
nuclear deterrent. However, sustainment challenges have limited the 
ability of B-2A crews to conduct in-aircraft training. The B-2A is the 
only penetrating bomber and must remain fully operational, until 
replaced by the B-21 Raider.
    Since the B-21's inception, top-level key system attributes and 
performance parameters have remained unchanged. Similarly, since the 
Engineering and Manufacturing Development contract was awarded in 2016, 
the B-21 program has remained within its Acquisition Program Baseline 
for both cost and schedule targets. The Fiscal Year 2025 President's 
Budget includes funding to continue development and procurement of the 
program's planned Low-Rate Initial Production. Significant remaining 
milestones for the program include executing the flight test campaign 
and the start of low-rate initial production. The Fiscal Year 2025 
President's Budget also encompasses modernization activities continuing 
across the Future Years Defense Plan (FYDP). These activities include 
conventional weapon integration, air vehicle provisioning, sensors, and 
continued nuclear certification activities, as well as Long Range 
Standoff (LRSO) mission integration.
    The B-52H Stratofortress continues to be the enduring backbone of 
United States strategic deterrence. However, the B-52 faces sustainment 
challenges. Parts obsolescence also increases aircraft down time and 
leads to higher cannibalization rates of parts from other aircraft. 
Upcoming engine, radar, and crew interface modifications will present 
training and simulation challenges for the next generation of aviators 
and maintainers. To meet mission requirements, available training 
sorties will continue to decrease. A lack of training sorties leads to 
a lack of current aircrew to fly mission lines and an inability to 
absorb the number of crews required. AFGSC continues to pursue a medium 
fidelity weapon system trainer to maintain aircrew readiness and 
increase training quality.
    The B-52H Commercial Engine Replacement Program (CERP) and Radar 
Modernization Program (RMP) are vital upgrades addressing critical 
sustainment issues, ensuring combat readiness through 2050. The Air 
Force Life Cycle Management Center's Propulsion Directorate flagged the 
current B-52H TF-33 engines as unsustainable beyond 2030. Rolls Royce's 
F130 turbofan was chosen as a replacement for the TF-33. 
Simultaneously, the B-52H radar faces sustainability challenges due to 
parts obsolescence. The RMP proposes installing a modified off-the-
shelf radar to enhance reliability, reduce operational costs, and allow 
for future expansion. With RMP planned for IOC at the start of fiscal 
year 2028 and CERP projected for IOC in fiscal year 2033, any delays or 
cuts directly impact the B-52H force size. Until engine replacement 
begins in fiscal year 2031, AFGSC may face periods without enough 
engines for all B-52Hs. Funding delays or shortages will immediately 
and severely affect aircraft availability. Prioritizing funding, 
ensuring parts availability, and optimizing industry partner efficiency 
are critical measures to maintain program momentum.
    Our Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) is also in need of 
replacement. LRSO is a Major Defense Acquisition Program (MDAP) to 
design, develop, produce, and deploy a weapon system replacement for 
the current ALCM. LRSO will replace ALCM on a sortie-by-sortie basis. 
In March 2023, a successful Critical Design Review (CDR) was 
accomplished. The LRSO total life-cycle cost is $29 billion with an 
Average Procurement Unit Cost set at $7.85 million base year fiscal 
year 2021. The planned purchase of the 1,020 missiles includes post-
Milestone C production to support fielding with associated weapon 
system life cycle sustainment and surveillance requirements. Margin and 
timing with Department of Energy is assessed as a moderate risk to meet 
the warhead first production unit timeline. The LRSO program remains on 
track for IOC in 2030.
    AFGSC also continues to make progress replacing aging Weapon 
Storage Areas (WSAs) with single facilities known as Weapons Generation 
Facilities (WGFs). Nuclear security is a key function of our mission, 
and these facilities are a major security initiative for the command. 
The facilities significantly reduce operational, logistical, and 
aircraft and vulnerability. AFGSC cannot overemphasize enough the 
appreciation and continued need for congressional support to stay the 
course in this critical effort. The timing and need for the WGFs are 
driven by operational requirements and outdated WSA conditions. 
Currently, five WGFs are in the FYDP. Three are bomber WGFs with one in 
design planning and two in construction while two are ICBM WGFs with 
both in construction. Two remaining WGFs are outside the FYDP. The 
methodical and deliberate process to build these facilities is paying 
off. F.E. Warren AFB will see the first complete WGF construction this 
year and is scheduled to reach FOC in fiscal year 2025. The timing and 
sequencing of the modernization endeavor are critical to sustaining 
credible deterrence while ensuring deconfliction and support to new 
mission weapon systems.
Cyber and Unmanned Aircraft Systems
    AFGSC faces many challenges due to the changing cybersecurity 
environment. These challenges have driven new information protection 
and security standards for all systems, including the Nuclear Command, 
Control, and Communications (NC3) enterprise. NC3 programs often fail 
to gain the notoriety of larger acquisition programs. However, the Air 
Force NC3 weapon system is a vitally important weapons system for 
AFGSC, the Air Force, and the DOD. NC3 consists of thousands of items 
spread across multiple platforms and mission areas to include our 
Airborne, ICBM, Command Posts, and Primary Command Centers 
collectively.
    Built during the cold war, many of our NC3 systems require 
modernization now to meet the demands of modern cybersecurity. AFGSC 
continues to work with the Air Force Deputy Chief of Staff for 
Strategic Deterrence and Nuclear Integration to map out the NC3 cyber 
terrain and partner with 16th Air Force and AFMC to increase NC3 system 
security and monitoring. These efforts require dedicated funding to be 
successful. With sustainment support and funding spread across multiple 
Program Executive Officers, Program Elements, and Program Offices, the 
ability for AFGSC to effectively drive consensus and prioritize funding 
is extremely difficult. We need better alignment, accountability, and 
transparency of the management of these programs and a clearer answer 
to who oversees each system and the associated funding streams. NC3 is 
a no-fail mission. We must elevate the importance of NC3. AFGSC will 
continue working closely with USSTRATCOM, Headquarters Air Force, Space 
Force, OSD, and industry partners to generate the NC3 Next 
modernization plan.
    AFGSC long-range strike forces, both nuclear and conventional, 
provide the foundation for the security of our Nation. AFGSC continues 
to incrementally modernize systems for the fight of tomorrow while 
balancing sustainment efforts for today's force. Soon we will field an 
Advanced Extremely High Frequency compatible system to support ICBMs 
and nuclear command posts. We will also field a Senior Leader Network 
providing critical line of sight communication capabilities supporting 
senior leaders in times of crisis. Simultaneously, we are developing a 
modernized very low frequency receiver that will support future 
waveform and cryptographic modernization upgrades, along with advanced 
aircrew alert systems and non-satellite based beyond line-of-sight 
communications systems. We must ensure modernization executes with 
speed and agility to guarantee seamless fielding all in a cyber 
contested environment.
    Cyber is not the only threat facing our command. The conflict in 
Ukraine along with the recent increase in unmanned aircraft attacks on 
shipping in the Red Sea highlight the ever-increasing threat posed by 
unmanned aircraft, both in number and complexity. AFGSC, with the 
direct support of USSTRATCOM, has been at the forefront of the Air 
Force's counter-unmanned aircraft efforts since 2016. Our team of 
trained Defenders employ equipment that was developed 5 years ago, 
while the adversary continues to evolve and adapt at the speed of 
technology. Additionally, our teams operate within the United States 
and therefore must act in accordance with domestic law and published 
Rules for Use of Force. While the DOD's Joint Counter-small Unmanned 
Aircraft Systems Office is leading the overall DOD effort, our AFGSC 
team is leveraging internal innovation efforts to seek solutions for 
the specific challenges our forces face from unmanned aircraft, 
especially as they relate to operations in the ICBM missile fields and 
defense of our WSAs and WGFs.
Airborne Operations Center
    The Survivable Airborne Operations Center (SAOC) weapon system is 
the replacement for the legacy E-4B National Airborne Operations Center 
system. The SAOC will provide an advanced command and control 
capability that is survivable and enduring. Replacement of the E-4B 
fleet is necessary due to the aircraft approaching end of service life 
and Air Force sustainment challenges. Diminished manufacturing sources 
and obsolescence have led to aircraft availability concerns. As the E-
4B gets closer to SAOC transition and subsequent end-of-life, AFGSC 
will need to balance modernization efforts and aircraft availability. 
To satisfy operational requirements, SAOC will be comprised of a 
Commercial Derivative Aircraft (CDA), mission system, and ground 
support systems. The CDA will be hardened to protect against nuclear 
and electromagnetic effects and modified with an aerial refueling 
capability, to enable sustained airborne operations. The mission system 
will integrate secure communications and planning capabilities on 
modern information technology infrastructure.
                          airmen and families
    While our weapons systems and modernization efforts garner the 
attention of Allies and adversaries across the world, our Striker 
Airmen are the reason AFGSC stands ready to face any challenge or 
threat, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
    Across various units within AFGSC, our airmen have demonstrated 
exceptional performance and dedication. Airman-driven innovation is key 
to advancing mission effectiveness. Our STRIKEWERX innovation team has 
worked to develop cost-effective solutions to mission obstacles with 
excellent results in multiple areas, to include platform operations, 
maintenance, and aircrew training. STRIKEWERX Design Sprints have 
paired airmen with industry and academia to produce prototypes 
including B-52 engine pod covers and rapidly deployable shelters. 
Additionally, our STRIKE Tank Airman innovation competition led to 
initiating a mobile shielded enclosure prototype for nuclear mission 
support and an artificial intelligence solution to consolidate 
disaggregated B-52 aircrew training material into a single accessible 
mobile application.
    Deterrence is grounded in safe, secure, credible, and reliable 
weapons, operated by reliable Strikers, every day. The maintenance of 
our legacy weapon systems, while simultaneously modernizing the nuclear 
force, requires consistent funding, and a supported and sustainable 
force. To that end, the command is actively reviewing the personnel 
reliability program to ensure policy guidance, processes, and 
resourcing aid in the delivery of a credible defense. Part of an 
airmen's reliability is the knowledge that they and their families are 
supported medically. AFGSC has partnered with the Defense Health Agency 
to improve the electronic health record to meet reliability program 
requirements and improve access to care in our rural communities. 
However, we can and must do more.
    In 2023, concerns were raised about a potential correlation between 
missile field service and cancer. AFGSC partnered with the USAF School 
of Aerospace Medicine (USAFSAM) to lead a comprehensive two-pronged 
study to examine risks to the safety of our airmen. One arm is 
evaluating the environment through three rounds of over 2,400 samples, 
at each of the three Missile Wings and Vandenberg Space Force Base. We 
have successfully completed two rounds of sampling. In the first round, 
out of 900 total surface swipes, polychlorinated biphenyls (PCBs) over 
the EPA threshold were detected on four low-touch surfaces at three 
Missile Alert facilities (MAFs). The three MAFs were immediately shut 
down until mitigation was complete. All three MAFs are now operational. 
All air, drinking water, and soil samples have returned below 
regulatory levels for chemicals or hazards in both rounds of testing. 
Radon levels at all three missile wings were below the intervention 
threshold. To account for seasonal variation, the third round of 
sampling will occur this spring.
    The epidemiology arm of the study is comparing the rates of 14 
common cancers in the general population to missile-related career 
fields using large Government data bases. AFGSC and USAFSAM released 
the initial set of results from the epidemiology review in February 
2024. From the very limited data set of electronic military medical 
records, the researchers found no increased incidence of non-Hodgkin 
Lymphoma, and cancer rates within the missile community were consistent 
with national military rates at the time of the study. The clinical 
review is now moving to the next phase, which includes the DOD Cancer 
Registry and Department of Veterans Affairs data. These additional data 
sets could provide additional insights on potential risks.
    Getting results for our airmen, families, and veterans coupled with 
transparency remains our priority throughout this effort. For our 
veterans we are communicating and sharing our progress with the 
Department of Veterans Affairs Military Environmental Exposure Sub-
Council. This council reviews potential cases of toxic exposure. We are 
also conducting a complete review and validation of the hazard 
assessments and occupational health surveillance for the missile 
community. The safety and care of our airmen is paramount. AFGSC has 
hosted five Town Halls with airmen and guardians to keep the missile 
community updated on results as they come in, followed by immediate 
notifications to senior leaders and Congress. The safety and care of 
our airmen is paramount.
    Ensuring the retention of our Strikers is critical to maintaining a 
proficient and ready nuclear force. With specialized training and 
experience, retaining talent is essential. Recognizing the potential 
transition of many Strikers to the private sector, AFGSC is conducting 
a comprehensive analysis focusing on nuclear maintenance, command and 
control, and security forces Air Force Specialty Codes (AFSCs). These 
frontline AFSCs are vital for the security and operation of the 
Nation's nuclear triad. We are evaluating human resource strategies 
geared toward crafting a distinct and customized plan tailored 
specifically for the Nuclear Enterprise. Furthermore, we have 
collaborated with RAND-Project Air Force to undertake an impartial 
study of our mission, leaving no aspect unexamined in our pursuit of 
enhancing command excellence.
    AFGSC's Force Development Division is the command lead for the 
deliberate development of AFGSC leaders and nuclear mission 
professionals. The team plans, develops,
    organizes, and executes the Command's deliberate nuclear deterrence 
and assurance education efforts. Our team specializes in integration of 
Air Force and command-level programs to address issues related to 
deterrence education and development to ensure applicability and 
relevance for specific mission area needs. We leverage the best 
available commercial technologies to field education programs that 
develop nuclear mission focused leaders while building an enduring 
leadership culture across the AFGSC staff, Numbered Air Forces (NAF), 
and Wings.
    As part of its steadfast commitment to airmen development, AFGSC 
has forged a partnership with Air University to pilot a base-level 
Professional Military Education (PME) initiative, targeting 
Intermediate Developmental Education for Majors, Major selects, and 
their civilian counterparts. The groundbreaking program enables 
officers and civilians to blend the flexible distance learning elements 
of Air Command and Staff College with the interactive in-person seminar 
format provided by in-residence PME. Concurrently, AFGSC has revamped 
its course curriculum for command teams' pre-command education, which 
involved a comprehensive redesign of the Squadron Leadership Course and 
the introduction of a first-ever Nuclear Stewardship Executive Course. 
The initiative aims to furnish Squadron, Group, and Wing Commanders, as 
well as their Senior Enlisted Leaders, with a profound understanding of 
their roles, responsibilities, and authorities in relation to the 
nuclear mission of the DOD, USSTRATCOM, and the United States Air 
Force. Moreover, AFGSC offers highly coveted internships tailored for 
exceptional officers, enlisted personnel, and civilian Strikers. These 
year-long programs immerse participants in a diverse array of 
educational and developmental experiences, including exposure to 
strategic and national level leadership, academic forums, and 
international partnerships, all aimed at cultivating future ``Strategic 
Thought Leaders'' for the Nuclear Enterprise. Upon successful 
completion, graduates are selectively placed in assignments designed to 
maximize their unique skill sets. Furthermore, AFGSC spearheads 
Aviation Inspiration Mentor outreach efforts through Project Tuskegee, 
a community engagement initiative aimed at informing, influencing, 
inspiring, and attracting the next generation of rated and non-rated 
operators. Since inception in 2022, Project Tuskegee has reached 
hundreds of thousands across various communities, showcasing 
opportunities within AFGSC. Through strategic partnerships and 
engagements at national-level events, Project Tuskegee aims to recruit 
talented individuals from diverse backgrounds to contribute to key 
modernization efforts such as the MH-139A, B-21 Raider, and B-52J, thus 
shaping the future landscape of AFGSC operations.
    Caring for airmen and families remains a sacred duty. We are 
falling short at our Child Development Centers (CDCs). Hiring 
challenges are the primary driver of shortfalls at installation CDCs. 
The Department of the Air Force (DAF) implemented various hiring and 
retention incentives which has increased the CDC staffing levels from 
72.6 percent in February 2023 to 82.4 percent in February 2024, 
reducing the unmet childcare need by 222 children. There are limited 
options within the local community at some locations. DAF works to 
support those families through subsidized childcare programs. Wings are 
also implementing initiatives to combat these gaps. The Malmstrom AFB 
school liaison officer championed a pilot ``Transitional-K'' program 
for military children. This on-base CDC early childhood development 
program intends to address childcare issues and enhance academic 
performance. The pilot program includes 18 military families with 
support from local high schools and the local university to help 
children transition between pre-K and a kindergarten educational 
environment. The program helps offset childcare needs and allows 
military families access to early childhood development resources.
    Minot AFB has received top priority from Air Force Installation and 
Mission Support Center to plan, design, and construct two additional 
classrooms and renovate an existing classroom into two separate rooms. 
This initiative will enable the care of 30 more children. Furthermore, 
Minot AFB has implemented a $5,000 hiring incentive for an 18-month 
commitment as part of recruiting and retention initiatives. A healthy 
CDC is critical to the readiness of an individual and should be looked 
at as a no-fail mission. Support from Congress that improves hiring, 
facility upgrades, and other efforts will not only help AFGSC but will 
benefit the entire Air Force. Simply put, our command needs 
congressional support to fund initiatives geared toward bettering the 
lives of our airmen and families.
    Despite efforts by many, military spouses continue to face 
employment challenges; in fact, military spouses experience an 
unemployment rate among the highest in the country at approximately 21 
percent--around seven times the national average. Montana took the 
challenge head-on and Malmstrom Air Force Base spouses have been 
positively impacted by the Montana Board of Public Education voting to 
adopt Montana Superintendent Arntzen's recommended changes to teacher 
licensing. These revisions allow for flexible approaches to help 
address the retention and recruitment of teachers. Additionally, the 
changes specifically allow for licensure reciprocity for military 
spouses and dependents. We expect other State legislatures will follow 
to support the remainder of our installations.
    AFGSC actively addresses violence prevention and response across 
its installations, focusing on filling Integrated Primary Prevention 
Workforce and True North provider positions. However, the nationwide 
shortage of mental health providers presents challenges in attracting 
and retaining qualified candidates, particularly in rural areas. 
Efforts to incentivize service in difficult-to-fill locations aim to 
position AFGSC as a premier command. AFGSC anticipates participating in 
pilot programs to enhance airmen and their families' resilience and 
response capabilities. Recently, a Resiliency Response Concept of 
Operations was developed to augment Disaster Mental Health guidance, 
ensuring coordinated support at installation, NAF, and Major Command 
levels. While the primary goal is prevention, the workforce remains 
prepared to respond swiftly and effectively, providing necessary 
support as situations demand.
    AFGSC Strikers undertake the daunting task of executing two-thirds 
of the Nation's nuclear triad mission, a responsibility demanding 
unparalleled complexity and resilience in the face of rigorous 
conditions. The mission unfolds against the backdrop of a monumental 
40-year, $290 billion recapitalization effort, comparable in scale to 
the Eisenhower InterState System. Recognizing the distinct challenges 
posed by the command's diverse locations, extreme climates, and mission 
demands, my team is diligently exploring various retention tools and 
strategies. These initiatives are aimed at aligning the priority of our 
talent management programs with the paramount importance of the 
Strategic Nuclear Deterrence mission. By advocating for transparency, 
flexibility in assignment selection, and financial incentives to retain 
seasoned talent through enhanced quality-of-life measures, we strive to 
foster a supportive environment conducive to mission success. However, 
the realization of these enhancements hinges on crucial congressional 
support, necessitating continued funding to address outdated facilities 
and sustain our vital mission capabilities.
                               conclusion
    AFGSC is acutely aware of the need to sustain our current force and 
modernize rapidly. We are prepared, yet we are close to being outpaced 
to meet the demands we find in today's world. Despite having a robust 
plan that paves the way for our future force, we have no operational 
margin. The preservation of our legacy force remains a vital national 
security objective.
    Unparalleled operational parameters and an uncertain world confront 
the command daily. Our imperative is to uphold FOC to fulfill national 
security mandates, even as we integrate cutting-edge weapon systems. 
The presence of legacy systems mandates ongoing funding until full 
divestment can be achieved. Ensuring the execution of modernization 
efforts is imperative to maintaining credible deterrence.
    We cannot slow down. AFGSC is building the force to face an 
uncertain future. Every portfolio is being modernized, from new sixth-
generation aircraft to more capable Grey Wolf helicopters. However, the 
military-industrial complex is not keeping pace. Already, delays, 
inflation, and expanding overhead are chipping away at time margins and 
resources. Simply put, we need continued advocacy and bipartisan effort 
to field new capabilities and divest the old.
    Our airmen and their families are the bedrock of AFGSC, enabling 
sustainment, modernization, and deterrence. AFGSC and the Nation have a 
duty to address the challenges our airmen and families face. We are 
obligated to provide our airmen with solutions to health concerns, 
access to necessary medical care, adequate childcare, and opportunities 
for education and personal growth. By taking care of them, they will 
take care of the mission.
    AFGSC thanks Congress for its commitment to our command's national 
defense mission through strategic deterrence and long-range strike. The 
success of our efforts to develop and maintain these vital capabilities 
for our Nation relies on coordination with Congress and the support you 
provide.

    Senator King. Thank you very much, General.
    Admiral Wolfe, we who work in this area so frequently 
sometimes things just go by and we take them for granted. You 
said something very important in your opening statement about a 
secure second-strike capability. Why is that so important to 
deterrence?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. I mean, obviously if you think 
about it from the adversary's perspective, anything that they 
may think they could do as an initial strike, the SSB enforce 
is always out there on alert, on patrol, unknown where they're 
at.
    But certainly, if ever called upon, they are survivable and 
could ensure that a second strike from our Nation could be 
performed. So, that is absolutely critical as you look at 
deterrence and what it means.
    Senator King. So, the idea is that the adversary can't 
think that they can knock us out entirely with one strike. If 
you've got the survivable at sea capability, that must give 
them pause. That's the theory?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. That's absolutely correct.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    Dr. Adams, many of the production lines and I think you 
touched on this in your testimony for the components have been 
dormant for many years. Do we have the physical assets and the 
people to be able to bring those lines back in order to meet 
the demand that we're seeing in our modernization?
    Dr. Adams. Yes, sir. We do. Thank you for that question. 
Yes, thank you. I'll repeat my answer. Thank you for the 
question, Senator King. The short answer is yes, sir, we do. We 
don't have a lot of margin. We have to time phase things 
carefully so that we deploy the needed capabilities in time for 
when they're needed for given warheads.
    As I think you know, as we progress through our program of 
record, successive warheads will require more and more of the 
components to be newly manufactured, as opposed to reused. 
That's an integral part of what goes into our planning and our 
budget requests that support that planning. But the answer is 
yes, we can do it.
    Senator King. Is there an end date to a nuclear warhead? In 
other words, I've seen in New Mexico, those rows and rows and 
rows. Is there some point where they're deemed useless and we 
have to reprocess? What's, what's the estimated lifespan of a 
nuclear warhead?
    Dr. Adams. The answer is different for different warheads 
and it's different for different components. We are 
conservative bunch by our nature and by the importance of our 
mission. We don't certify things to be out in the stockpile 
unless we are highly confident that they can still meet all the 
military requirements.
    If there's an exception to that, we duly note it and work 
with the services and DOD to accommodate those exceptions. But 
we do retire our warheads and we dismantle them and we do 
recycle that material.
    Senator King. That's when that material can go to Admiral 
Houston for Naval Reactors.
    Dr. Adams. It goes various places. We recycle the material 
that goes into our newly manufactured warheads. For example, 
the plutonium we will use for pit production will be recycled. 
The highly enriched uranium that we use for our warheads is 
recycled and of course, yes, it's older secondaries that are 
the source of material for Naval Reactors and also for some 
other defense related and NNSA related uses.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    General Bussiere, you're engaged in the overseeing and in 
many ways managing the Sentinel rebuilding. Are you satisfied 
that we have the organizational structure to manage that 
process? Because as you know, we're facing a Nunn-McCurdy 
breach? I think it's important to note that the problem is not 
the missiles, but the civil works.
    Do we have the structure and the people in charge that are 
necessary to make sure we can get beyond that and get that 
project moving forward?
    General Bussiere. Senator King, that's an excellent 
question as it relates to how we're rebuilding the management 
team that oversees the Sentinel Weapon System.
    Senator King. Is your mic on? I'm having a little trouble--
could you get a little closer to your mic, please?
    General Bussiere. Yes, sir.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    General Bussiere. So, as you know, in NDAA 2023 we were 
directed at Global Strike Command Stand Up. A site activation 
task force relating to the transition from Minuteman III to the 
Sentinel Weapon System. That director had stood up last August 
and General Connor is the General Officer I put in charge of 
that.
    As you know, the 2024 NDAA requires the Department to look 
at those various different authorities within the Department of 
Defense that should be delegated to that task force to oversee 
the transition from Minute Man III to the Sentinel Program.
    Senator King. Do we have the structure that we need?
    General Bussiere. We haven't returned back to Congress with 
our recommendations on those responsibilities primarily because 
of the pause with the Nunn-McCurdy process going through right 
now. So, we still owe that answer from the 2024 NDAA back to 
Congress.
    Senator King. So, we'll look forward to having that because 
this is one of the most important and frankly expensive 
projects that we have underway and we really--I'll sleep better 
at night if I know somebody's in charge. My philosophy of 
management is you want one throat to choke. I think we need to 
be sure that there's somebody who's ultimately responsible for 
this.
    General Bussiere. Yes, Senator, and I think you're looking 
at him.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you for volunteering, 
Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen for being here today and thank you for your service.
    Admiral Wolfe, one of the recommendations of the Strategic 
Posture Commission's report was to, ``accelerate development 
and deployment of D5LE2.'' How is your organization evaluating 
different avenues to ensure that this critical update is 
available as soon as possible?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. Thank you for the question. So, 
where we're currently at right now. We are within a year of 
getting to what we call milestone B, which is really where we 
will settle in on what the trade studies have told us the right 
architecture's going to be.
    Then where we start to get the entire program in alignment 
to move forward to understand what the schedule will really be 
to first meet where we know we need to get which is in the late 
thirties when we run out of current assets. But then once we 
anchor that, that will give us the opportunity to look to see 
if there are any opportunities to accelerate.
    We are certainly aware of what the Strategic Posture 
Commission recommended, and as we go through this, that will be 
taken into account as we start to lock in that program.
    Senator Fischer. You have a really important responsibility 
just to manage the transition from the Ohio-class to Columbia 
to make sure that we have the warheads necessary to put on 
those boats that are out there. How are you managing all of 
that? What input do you have there? Because that's what 60, 70 
percent of warheads that are, that are deployed?
    How are you able to control the timeline and make sure we 
can meet it by getting all these--all of the factions together?
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, ma'am. So----
    Senator Fischer. Administrator, Dr. Adams, you know, how's 
this going to----
    Admiral Wolfe. So, I think it's a whole-of-Navy effort with 
the way we originally structured the way we would transition 
between Ohio and Columbia, and that's why if you look at the 
decision that was made when we said we were going to have a 
replacement for Ohio.
    We made the decision that ostensibly the weapon system that 
I'm responsible for and the warheads that go on that weapon 
system, we are ostensibly picking that up and moving it to 
Columbia. So, from a design development perspective although 
there are a few differences it's essentially the same system.
    As we manage this transition the way we've done it is as an 
Ohio will come offline, we take those assets and then we'll 
load those onto a Columbia. So that's how we guarantee that 
when we are asked to meet Operation Global Citadel requirements 
for U.S. strategic command, we have the assets, we have the 
timing because we will not download anything before we know 
we've got the new platform to upload.
    So, I'm able to manage all of that with the assets we have 
so that as the timing works, we control when that will occur.
    Senator Fischer. There will not be a gap?
    Admiral Wolfe. No, ma'am. As a matter of fact, as you are 
very aware to ensure that there's not a gap although not in my 
portfolio, the Navy has decided we are looking at a certain 
number of Ohio-class that we could potentially extend in the 
event that a Columbia may show up late. So, we can always meet 
the STRATCOM requirements of Operation Global Citadel. Yes, 
ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you very much. General Bussiere, 
nice to see you, sir. I am pleased to see that the Air Force 
has moved forward with SAOC. Can you provide us with an update 
on the program and how fiscal year 2025, the budget request is 
going to support that specific part of our NC3 architecture?
    General Bussiere. Yes, Senator Fischer. We're really 
excited about the decision and the announcement of the industry 
partner that was selected for the Strategic Airborne Operations 
Center, Sierra Nevada Corporation was selected by the 
Department. The threshold number of the platform is six 
aircraft with the objective number of the platform is eight 
aircraft.
    The 2025 budget, I think like we previously had talked 
about briefly is primarily for research and development. As 
well as starting to look at some of the construction projects 
required for the additional aircraft, they'll be based it off 
in Air Force Base in Omaha.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Senator King. Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all of our witnesses for being here today.
    I'd like to talk a little bit about the submarine launched 
cruise missile, the nuclear version SLCM-N. Development of 
SLCM-N has been driven by a perceived need for deterrence 
against the growing Russia and China nuclear threat. Russia, as 
we all know, maintains a stockpile of maybe about 2,000 low 
yield tactical warheads, and has an employment doctrine that 
envisions some limited nuclear use.
    The SLCM-N is theoretically meant to ensure that our 
adversaries know that we have the ability to respond in kind. 
In short, it should give us more flexibility, but I'm concerned 
that we are spending money in taxing our manufacturing capacity 
for a redundant capability.
    With the addition of the B61-13 and the SLCM-N, the 
National Nuclear Security Administration has a lot on it plate. 
We're also developing a W76-2 low yield warhead and the Air 
Force is soon going to have the long-range standoff missile on 
a B-21.
    It's W80 warhead has a low yield option with it. I'm also 
concerned about the changes we would have to make to Virginia-
class subs to accommodate SLCM-N. So, Vice Admiral Wolfe what 
would it cost the Navy in time, funds, long-term limitations to 
take conventional torpedoes off of our attack submarines to 
accommodate a low yield nuclear weapon, SLCM-N.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, Senator. Thanks for the question. So, 
certainly we've started to look at that and actually there is a 
report out already to Congress at the classified level for some 
of those initial impacts but based on where the NDAA this past 
year asked us to go look and with support from this Committee 
and others, we've asked for flexibility because we absolutely 
recognize, yes, there will be some impact to our SSN force.
    But if you look at the options that it provides to the 
President and if we're allowed to go look at how to not impact 
anything else to your point with the nuclear modernization that 
we're already doing for the triad which is absolutely 
fundamental, we are looking at what options we can provide that 
will give us that capability with minimum impact for both the 
Navy and for NNSA to go make this happen.
    So, we are in the process of looking at all that right now 
with the added flexibility that we've asked for today.
    Senator Kelly. I read the report yesterday and you say 
limited impact and I don't want to get into details of a 
classified report, but some of it did not seem like the 
different options that were given were not limited impact.
    I want you to go into a little bit about what would we need 
to do to a Virginia-class sub in terms of modifications and 
cost to the sub itself, and to the extent you can do it here, a 
little bit about how the operations could change for--in order 
to put that capability onto a Virginia-class attacks up.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. So, certainly from a cost 
perspective it would be premature to give you an exact cost of 
what we think a program like that would cost. That's why part 
of what we're going to look at in this next year is to your 
point. What solutions are out there that would minimize the 
number of modifications we would have to make to one of our 
SSNs?
    You particularly pointed out Virginia, there is no doubt 
that based on the solution, the impacts could be great, greater 
or they could be less depending on which is why we've asked for 
the flexibility to be able to go look at multiple solutions to 
try and weigh that. That's from an impact to the actual 
platform.
    We believe that there's other things out there and and I 
can't talk about them here that might get us to a capability 
that would actually and I do believe, minimize the impact of 
modifications we would have to make to our SSNs. We're going to 
understand that. Now, from an operational perspective, you're 
absolutely right.
    Anytime you have a conventional mission with a nuclear 
mission, you have to be very careful to segregate those and 
make sure that our war fighters understand how that operates. 
Again, as we come through material solutions impacts to the 
fleet will also be taken into account as we get through what a 
solution would look like.
    Then it's just going to be a matter of what would the cost 
of that solution be as we lock in and what support do we need 
to go make that happen?
    Senator Kelly. One big concern I have is when you look at a 
conflict between the United States and a near peer adversary 
that has maybe in some cases could have a bigger fleet both in 
naval and merchant vessels, our submarine capability is 
substantial. It's significant. It would, it would weigh heavily 
in that kind of conflict.
    When I think about the probability of firing a conventional 
torpedo, you know, out of a submarine, you know, out of a 
torpedo tube and the likelihood of having to do that multiple 
times and just the rather shallow depth of a magazine and not a 
lot of rounds you have aboard the sub. Sure, certainly you 
could--re reload but that takes some time and there's risk 
involved in doing that.
    Weighing that with the very unlikely event that we would 
deploy a tactical nuclear weapon in combat, one of my biggest 
concerns is that we would be giving up something we really need 
for something we are unlikely to use.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. I appreciate that, and certainly, 
all of those discussions will take place as we look at what--
how do you weigh options available to the P0resident for a 
deterrent capability as opposed to a conventional capability. 
Certainly, the next year will inform us a lot more on how we're 
going to get at being able to balance all of that.
    Senator Kelly. Alright, thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Senator King. To followup, Admiral, the theory is that if 
all we have is massive retaliation, that's not credible in 
response to a tactical use by an adversary. Isn't that really 
what we're talking about here?
    Admiral Wolfe. Certainly, in a regional conflict, 
absolutely, sir. There is no doubt, to Senator Kelly's point, 
although we have deployed a 76-2 and we're done with that. So, 
we've gotten that impact out of NNSA. You know, you ask 
yourself again, is that a credible scenario?
    If you're trying to deter a regional contract, all of those 
things are being taken----
    Senator King. The Russians are talking all the time about 
using the possibility of using nuclear weapons. Senator Kelly 
points out part of their doctrine; escalate to deescalate.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir, and it really is a matter of as 
you talked again earlier about a second-strike capability. 
Anything that we can do to cause China or Russia to have pause 
on whether they would even consider any type of nuclear 
response. That's really what we're trying to get after with all 
these systems.
    Senator King. Thank you. I want to ask a very basic 
question. The idea of the Ohio-class and then the Columbia-
class with the ICBMs goes back, I don't, with ballistic 
missiles, sorry, goes back many years. That decision was made, 
I don't know, 30, 40 years ago when this was first being 
discussed.
    Are we making a mistake by sticking with ballistic missiles 
and not moving toward hypersonic cruise missiles or some--in 
other words, the problem with--we had a hearing last week with 
the Missile Defense Agency, a ballistic missile, Sir Isaac 
Newton can tell you where it's going to land.
    I wouldn't say it's easy to intercept but it's much easier 
to intercept than a maneuverable cruise missile. Should we be 
thinking fundamentally about are we putting a seventies or 
eighties weapon on this modern submarine? Maybe we should be 
thinking about what these submarines are going to be armed 
with.
    Is that an off the wall idea or is that something that 
you're thinking about?
    Admiral Wolfe. Sir, that's a difficult question to answer 
in an unclassified scenario. I'd be more than happy to have 
that discussion in a classified setting. But here's what I 
would tell you. Based on technology and the things that we're 
all experiencing, there is no one solution that fits every 
scenario where we could think about how we would credibly deter 
our adversaries.
    So, I think certainly the triad that we have today still 
remains the bedrock and the foundation of our nuclear deterrent 
capability. There is no doubt when we talk about things like 
sea launch cruise missile or we talk about some of these other 
things, there is a place for them and those discussions need to 
be had in the future.
    Senator King. I just want to be sure those discussions are 
happening and that we're not just doing what we've done. You 
know, we've never done it that way before, I hate that 
attitude. So, I just want to be sure there are those 
discussions.
    Admiral Wolfe. Yes, sir. We do have those discussions all 
the time.
    Senator King. Thank you. Senator Fischer.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I don't have any more questions, but I appreciate your 
answer to Senator Kelly about SLCM-N, and I think it's 
extremely important that not only do we look at what our 
adversaries are doing and their comments that they--their 
public comments that they make that we have to be able to have 
different options.
    I really appreciate the work that that you do on that and 
to make sure that a president would have options that would 
only add to the deterrence to make sure we would never have to 
use them. So, thank you.
    Senator King. I want to conclude the hearing but General 
Bussiere, you mentioned the new NAOC and a group of us, almost 
10 years ago went on one of the NAOC's around the country on a 
flight with a simulated attack. It was one of the most sobering 
experiences of my life.
    I would urge you to think about inviting Members of the 
Committee, Members of Congress to take that trip because it 
takes it out of the hearing room and becomes much more real as 
you think about what challenges this country might face, what 
challenges the President might face in a situation. That was 
what came through to me was that clock on the wall that told 
you how long you had to make a decision.
    I want to thank you all for the work that you do, it's some 
of the most important work that this Government is doing. 
Deterrence is the bedrock of our strategy, and you're on the 
front line of deterrence. Thank you very much.
    I appreciate your testimony. We'll hold the record open for 
additional thoughts and testimony, and questions from our 
Members. But for today, thank you so much for joining us. The 
hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 5:59 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

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