[Senate Hearing 118-708]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 118-708




                            BUSINESS MEETING

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                                MEETING

                                 of the

                              COMMITTEE ON
                      ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS

                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION
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                             APRIL 26, 2023
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               COMMITTEE ON ENVIRONMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                  THOMAS R. CARPER, Delaware, Chairman
          SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West Virginia, Ranking Member

BENJAMIN L. CARDIN, Maryland         KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont             CYNTHIA M. LUMMIS, Wyoming
SHELDON WHITEHOUSE, Rhode Island     MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma
JEFF MERKLEY, Oregon                 PETE RICKETTS, Nebraska
EDWARD J. MARKEY, Massachusetts      JOHN BOOZMAN, Arkansas
DEBBIE STABENOW, Michigan            ROGER WICKER, Mississippi
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
ALEX PADILLA, California             LINDSEY O. GRAHAM, South Carolina
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania

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                             APRIL 26, 2023
                             
                           OPENING STATEMENTS

Carper, Hon. Thomas R., U.S. Senator from the State of Delaware..     1
Capito, Hon. Shelley Moore, U.S. Senator from the State of West 
  Virginia.......................................................     2

                          ADDITIONAL MATERIAL

Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman from 
  the Institute of Scrap Industries, Inc.........................     6
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman from 
  American Chemistry Council.....................................     8
Letter to Senator Carper and Senator Capito from American 
  Cleaning Institute.............................................    10
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman 
  from:
    American Beverage............................................    11
    Ameripen.....................................................    12
    AMP Robotics.................................................    16
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito, Senator Rodgers, and 
  Senator Pallone from several undersigned organizations who 
  would like to work to improve and pass the Recycling and 
  Composting Accountability Act (RCAA) and the Recycling 
  Infrastructure and Accessibility Act...........................    19
Letter to Senator Carper and Senator Capito from Consumer Brands 
  Association....................................................    20
Letter to Senator Carper from:
    Glass Packaging Institute....................................    21
    World Wildlife Fund..........................................    24
Letter to Senator Carper and Senator Capito from Ball Corporation    25
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman from 
  National Association of Manufacturers..........................    27
Letter to Senator Carper and Senator Boozman from Novelis, Inc...    28
Article from The National Waste & Recycling Association: NWRA 
  Applauds Reintroduction of Bipartisan Recycling and Composting 
  Bills..........................................................    29
Letter to Senator Capito from Novelis, Inc.......................    30
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman from 
  the Paper Recycling Coalition..................................    31
Article from Plastics Industry Association: Plastics Industry 
  Association Supports Bipartisan Legislation to Improve 
  America's Recycling Infrastructure.............................    33
Letter to Senator Carper, Senator Capito and Senator Boozman from 
  the Aluminum Association.......................................    35
Letter to Senator Carper and Senator Capito from Recycling 
  Infrastructure Now.............................................    37
Article from Sustainable Food Policy Alliance: SFPA Statement on 
  the Reintroduction of Bipartisan Recycling Legislation.........    39
Letter to Senator Carper from Tetra Pak..........................    41

 
                            BUSINESS MEETING

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                       WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26, 2023

                                       U.S. Senate,
                 Committee on Environment and Public Works,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The committee, met, pursuant to notice, at 9:47 a.m. in 
room 406, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Thomas R. Carper 
(chairman of the committee) presiding.
    Present: Senators Carper, Capito, Cardin, Sanders, 
Whitehouse, Merkley, Markey, Stabenow, Kelly, Padilla, 
Fetterman, Boozman, Ricketts.

          OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. THOMAS R. CARPER, 
            U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF DELAWARE

    Senator Carper. Good morning, everyone. I call this 
business meeting to order. I thank all of you for joining us 
today as we consider two of President Biden's nominees to 
important leadership posts at the Environmental Protection 
Agency (EPA), as well as bipartisan recycling legislation that 
Senator Capito and myself and a number of us here have worked 
on.
    First, we are going to vote when we have the right number 
of people here. I think we are pretty close. We are going to 
vote on Joe Goffman, President Biden's nominee to be the 
Assistant Administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation at 
EPA.
    Throughout his career, Mr. Goffman has demonstrated 
dedication to public service and a deep sense of integrity. He 
has implemented the law in a way that provides cleaner air and 
a safer climate for all, while also giving industry 
predictability and certainty. I have long supported his 
nomination, and I look forward to advancing him today.
    Next, we are going to be voting on David Uhlmann, President 
Biden's nominee to be Assistant Administrator of the Office of 
Enforcement and Compliance Assurance at EPA.
    As a distinguished public servant with 17 years of 
experience as a Department of Justice prosecutor, including 7 
years as Chief of the Environmental Crime Section, Mr. Uhlmann 
is exceptionally qualified to lead EPA's critical enforcement 
functions. I will vote yes to advance both these nominees, and 
I urge our colleagues to do the same.
    In addition, we will be considering the Recycling 
Infrastructure and Accessibility Act and the Recycling and 
Composting Accountability Act. These two bipartisan bills would 
help address our Nation's recycling and composting challenges 
by improving recycling access and data collection. If they look 
familiar, they should, because we voted and reported them out 
of here, and the Senate has supported them in a previous 
Senate.
    I thank Senator Capito, and I want to thank Senator Boozman 
for their very thoughtful collaboration with me and our staffs 
on developing this legislation. I urge our colleagues to join 
us in voting yes on both of these bills.
    With that, let me turn it over to Senator Capito for her 
statement, and then we will have some votes. Thank you.

        OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, 
          U.S. SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF WEST VIRGINIA

    Senator Capito. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks for 
calling the business meeting.
    Today, as you said, we are considering two recycling bills 
that you and I have worked on since the last Congress. We are 
voting on your and Senator Boozman's bill that I am pleased to 
cosponsor, the Recycling and Composting Accountability Act, as 
well as my bill, the Recycling Infrastructure and Accessibility 
Act. I have heard a lot about this from folks that are really 
excited on the outside to really jumpstart a better recycling 
regime. Thank you for that.
    The full Senate understood the value of our efforts, and 
both bills passed by unanimous consent last year. We are 
passionate about recycling, including improving access to it in 
rural communities, and we will continue to push for enactment 
of these sensible pieces of legislation.
    I expect we will report out David Uhlmann's nomination by 
voice vote. Mr. Uhlmann has been nominated to lead the EPA's 
Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance. Last Congress, 
when we considered this nomination, I could not support him 
because of the agency's failure to be responsive to my 
oversight request. I have observed a considerable improvement 
in the EPA's responsiveness and communication with me and 
members of my staff, so I am comfortable in reporting Mr. 
Uhlmann's nomination today.
    However, I do remain firm in my opposition to the 
nomination of Joe Goffman to serve as the Assistant 
Administrator of EPA's Office of Air and Radiation. I cannot 
support Mr. Goffman's nomination because of the misguided 
policy he has developed and shepherded over years, both for the 
Obama administration and during the Biden Administration.
    My opposition to his nomination is no secret, but I do want 
to highlight some of the recent policies out of EPA that have 
deepened my opposition. In the last 5 months, the EPA has 
inflicted considerable additional damage on our economy through 
overreaching air regulations and announced plans to issue even 
more.
    The agency imposed a Federal implementation plan on States 
across the Country, an action I have dubbed the Headwind Rule 
because of the economic headwinds it imposes on electricity 
prices, the energy sector, and other critical industries in 
this Country. The rule imposes $14 billion in additional costs, 
all as inflation and energy prices remain high.
    This rule is a particular headscratcher, because it will 
not actually help any areas that have elevated pollution to 
meet their air quality standards. The Headwind Rule is now 
being followed by a stream of additional regulations, all 
targeting the power sector.
    This month, the EPA proposed to tighten emissions standards 
on power plants under Section 112 of the Clean Air Act, even 
though current standards already protect public health with an 
ample margin of safety. As major newspapers are reporting, we 
will soon see an EPA proposal to establish punishing carbon 
dioxide emissions standards as the Biden Administration 
attempts to replace the illegal Clean Power Plan. This 
onslaught of regulations on power plants has one clear goal: 
drive a stake in the coal industry and squeeze natural gas use.
    As soon as he got to office, President Biden made an 
international pledge that reasonable people knew he could not 
keep, which was to drive down greenhouse gas emissions at 
impossible rates, 50 to 52 percent below year 2005 levels by 
year 2030. Recent reports from academics and analysts have 
concluded that the only way to get close to that pledge and for 
the Biden Administration to save face on this botched promise 
is to throw down the regulatory hammer on the electricity 
sector. Even the bloated, reckless spending from the Democrats' 
Inflation Act cannot get the economy there.
    So the EPA under Mr. Goffman's leadership is furiously 
developing regulations to try to get close to that misguided 
pledge. I oppose Mr. Goffman because of the policies he has 
developed and is developing at unjustifiable cost and ignoring 
legal limits. These policies will hurt workers, businesses, 
families, and the communities that I represent.
    With that, I yield back to you, Chairman Carper.
    Senator Carper. Thanks very much.
    I think we are going to go ahead. Senator Boozman, do you 
want to say anything about the recycling bills? Thanks so much 
for your work on them.
    Senator Boozman. No, the only thing I would say is, we 
appreciate you and Senator Capito being such leaders in this 
effort. This is something we can all be very proud of. We just 
need to work hard and get it passed totally.
    Senator Carper. Thanks for being the wind beneath our 
wings. You really have been, too.
    Senator Boozman. I will take that.
    Senator Carper. Yes, there you go. It is one of the nicer 
things you have been called, I am sure.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Carper. Next, we are going to call up the 
nomination of Joseph Goffman, Number 119, of Pennsylvania to be 
Assistant Administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation of 
the Environmental Protection Agency.
    I move to approve and report the nomination favorably to 
the Senate. Is there a second?
    Senator Cardin. Second.
    Senator Carper. Thanks for the second.
    The Clerk will call the role.
    The Clerk. Mr. Boozman.
    Senator Boozman. No.
    The Clerk. Ms. Capito.
    Senator Capito. No.
    The Clerk. Mr. Cardin.
    Senator Cardin. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Cramer.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Fetterman.
    Senator Carper. Yes, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Graham.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Aye.
    The Clerk. Ms. Lummis.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Markey.
    Senator Markey. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Merkley.
    Senator Merkley. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Mullin.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Padilla.
    Senator Padilla. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Ricketts.
    Senator Ricketts. No.
    The Clerk. Mr. Sanders.
    Senator Sanders. Aye.
    The Clerk. Ms. Stabenow.
    Senator Stabenow. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Sullivan.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Whitehouse.
    Senator Whitehouse. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Wicker.
    Senator Capito. No, by proxy.
    The Clerk. Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Carper. Aye.
    The Clerk. Mr. Chairman, the yeas are ten, the nays are 
nine.
    Senator Carper. The nomination is favorably reported.
    Next, I call up the Presidential Nomination Number 118 of 
David Uhlmann of Michigan to be the Assistant Administrator for 
the Office of Enforcement Compliance Assurance of the 
Environmental Protection Agency.
    We will consider this nomination by voice vote. I 
understand there may be several members on the committee who 
would like, after we have done a voice vote, to be recorded as 
no. If you would like to do that, just let us know, and we will 
make sure that happens.
    I move to report this nomination favorably. Is there a 
second?
    Senator Cardin. Second.
    Senator Carper. It has been moved and seconded. All in 
favor, say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Senator Carper. Opposed, say nay.
    [No audible response.]
    Senator Carper. The ayes have it. In the opinion of the 
chair, the ayes have it. The nomination will be favorably 
reported.
    I note for the record that a voting quorum of the committee 
is present.
    Next, I want to call up Senate Bill 1189, the Recycling 
Infrastructure and Accessibility Act of 2023 and S. 1194, the 
Recycling and Composting Accountability Act. We will consider 
these two bills en bloc by voice vote.
    I move to report these items favorably. Is there a second?
    Senator Cardin. Second.
    Senator Carper. It has been moved and seconded. All in 
favor, say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Senator Carper. Opposed, say nay.
    [No audible response.]
    Senator Carper. In the opinion of the chair, the ayes have 
it. The two bills will be favorably reported. I note for the 
record, the voting quorum of the committee is present.
    This concludes the committee's votes as part of the 
business meeting today. I really want to thank everybody for 
making time to be here this morning and taking care of 
business.
    With that, Senator Capito, anything else that you would 
like to say before we jump into the hearing part?
    Senator Capito. No, I am ready to go.
    Senator Carper. OK. Anybody want to say anything before we 
jump into the hearing before us today?
    With that, the business meeting is adjourned. Again, our 
thanks to everybody for making time to join us today.
    [Whereupon, at 9:56 a.m., the committee proceeded to other 
business.]

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