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   HIGHER PRICES: HOW SHRINKFLATION AND TECHNOLOGY IMPACT CONSUMERS' 
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Opening statement of Chair Brown.................................     1
        Prepared statement.......................................    26

Opening statements, comments, or prepared statements of:
    Senator Scott................................................     3
        Prepared statement.......................................    27

                               WITNESSES

Bilal Baydoun, Director of Policy and Research, Groundwork 
  Collaborative..................................................     6
    Prepared statement...........................................    28
    Responses to written questions of:
        Chair Brown..............................................    35
Allison Schrager, Senior Fellow, Manhattan Institute.............     7
    Prepared statement...........................................    30
Ali R. Bustamante, Professor of Practice, University of New 
  Orleans Department of Economics and Finance, and Director, 
  Worker Power and Economic Security Program, Roosevelt Institute     9
    Prepared statement...........................................    33
    Responses to written questions of:
        Chair Brown..............................................    35
        Senator Cortez Masto.....................................    36

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   HIGHER PRICES: HOW SHRINKFLATION AND TECHNOLOGY IMPACT CONSUMERS'
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                         THURSDAY, MAY 2, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
          Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met at 10 a.m., via Webex and in room 538, 
Dirksen Senate Office Building, Hon. Sherrod Brown, Chair of 
the Committee, presiding.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIR SHERROD BROWN

    Chair Brown. The Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs 
Committee will come to order.
    Every time Ohioans go to the grocery store, they're paying 
for corporate stock buybacks and executive bonuses. Prices 
today are far too high. Families are having a hard time finding 
a fair price, seeing more of their paycheck vanish into thin 
air. I hear all the time from Ohioans justifiably angry that, 
when they buy groceries and other basic essentials, they're 
paying more than they did a few years ago.
    All of this happens, while corporate profits hit record 
highs. Let's be clear, the fact that prices and corporate 
profits are going up at the same time is no coincidence. A 
study for the Kansas City Fed found that corporate profits 
drove half the price increases in 2021, and profits are still 
high today.
    Of course, I want businesses to make money. I want American 
companies to be the most competitive and most profitable in the 
world. What I am against is corporate profiteering that funnels 
money from working people to executives in the form of massive 
bonuses and stock buybacks. I'm against markets that don't 
foster competition and low prices. I'm against market 
manipulation. A family walking into a restaurant or a store 
should not have to guess what they'll be charged. Someone 
shopping online should not be paying more for the exact same 
product because of their online search history.
    Businesses should create new goods and services that 
Americans want to buy at prices justified by the cost. And 
workers, critical for the success of businesses, of course, 
should be paid fairly for helping the businesses succeed.
    Instead, the same Wall Street business model that has kept 
wages low and executive compensations sky high for decades is 
now pushing prices up, too. Corporations use supply shocks from 
the pandemic and the war in Ukraine as an excuse to raise 
prices, and they keep raising them. Be clear, they're not 
charging more because they're paying workers more. Wages are 
not causing price hikes. Corporations are raising prices far 
beyond their input costs and funnelling those profits to 
executives, not workers, just like they always do. They've 
realized when the market isn't free or fair, they can push 
prices up higher and higher.
    And they're using tried-and-true technologies, new 
technology, to refine old ones, to charge those higher and 
higher prices, and get away with it. When they're talking to 
the Wall Street investors, they admit what they're doing. On an 
investor earnings call, one CEO of a major American company 
said, consumers are tolerating frequent price increases well. 
You hear that? Consumers are tolerating price increases.
    I'm here to tell CEOs that working families cannot tolerate 
unfair price increases. Price gouging isn't new, but it's 
getting easier and easier to conceal.
    By now, we've heard what the media dubs shrinkflation, 
where corporations shrink their products, but keep the prices 
the same, or even raise them. The rolls of toilet paper have 
fewer sheets, but they didn't lower the price. The package of 
Oreos has fewer cookies in it, but the price stays the same.
    The trick isn't new, but it's getting worse. What's next? 
Will they shrink the amount of cream in the Oreo cookies? Will 
Double Stuff become half-stuffed?
    Companies use advances in technology to find new methods of 
price gouging. They're now using new pricing strategies and 
data collection to charge more. They call these tactics dynamic 
pricing and personalized pricing algorithms. Dynamic pricing 
and personalized pricing, you know some corporate PR firm is 
really proud of those terms.
    Customers don't want their pricing personalized. They want 
it to be fair. They want it to be transparent. They want it to 
be as low as possible. Gone are the days when Americans simply 
could walk into a store having a clear idea of what they are 
about to pay. It's not just the act of walking into a brick-
and-mortar store that's nostalgic, it's the notion of 
predictable, transparent prices.
    With online retailers, the price can change every day or 
even within the hour, sometimes dramatically. They spread the 
technique to brick-and-mortar stores, adding electronic menu 
boards to restaurants and digital price labels to shelves, so 
that corporations can raise the price at a moment's notice.
    It's frustrating and it makes it impossible for people to 
compare prices and shop around, key ingredients in any fair, 
open market. Families with fixed budgets can't afford to walk 
into the grocery store, into a pharmacy, not knowing how far 
their paycheck will get them.
    Big Tech has exported their data-mining business model to 
retailers, and that has made all of this even easier for 
companies. As more people shop online, retailers learn more 
about browsing and shopping habits all of us have by collecting 
every bit of our online data. They can charge you more based on 
your search history.
    You start shopping around to try to find the lowest price 
on a new washing machine. Online retailers realize you're in 
the market for appliances and start showing you higher and 
higher prices.
    Spying on people and charging them more for the products 
they need, it's not innovation, it's price gouging. Charging 
more for food during mealtime isn't the free market, it's 
exploitation.
    The story is always the same, whether you use old tricks or 
new technologies, corporations win; the rest of us, typically, 
lose. That's not how free markets are supposed to work. It's 
why standing up to corporate interests matters.
    And people hate Washington, people hate Washington because 
too many politicians in this town over and over and over do 
corporations' bidding.
    It took us more than a decade of fighting the drug 
companies and their lobbyists and their allies in Congress to 
finally lower drug prices and to cap the cost of insulin at $35 
a month for seniors. Almost nothing we've done elicits the kind 
of reception that I get when I talk about lowering the price, 
capping the price of a prescription of insulin at $35. Yet, 
look at how hard it was in this country because so many of my 
colleagues were doing the bidding of corporate interests, doing 
the bidding of Big Pharma, day after day, week after week, 
month after month, year after year. But consumers had a victory 
when we capped the price of insulin at $35.
    We need Members of Congress to grow spines and stand up to 
more of these corporate lobbyists. Senator Casey and I have a 
bill to crack down on companies shrinking their products and 
raising their prices by directing the FTC to label this what it 
really is, and that is a deceptive practice.
    We need our colleagues to join us in efforts like this to 
lower prices and stop these tactics that distort the market, 
and stifle competition, and make it harder for Americans to 
afford the cost of living.
    Thank you. Member Scott.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR TIM SCOTT

    Senator Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    And thank you all for being here with us this morning.
    Listening to our Chairman, Democrats would have Americans 
believe that the economic pain they're feeling is caused by 
greedy corporations putting a few less chips in your chip bag. 
It couldn't be more clear where the obvious pain is coming 
from. The obvious pain is coming from a guy who lives at 1600 
Pennsylvania Avenue.
    The bottom line is that President Biden and Bidenomics has 
devastated our economy and devastated people working paycheck 
to paycheck. The highest percentage of Americans with the 
fewest dollars in their savings account for an emergency is now 
because of President Biden and Democrats' reckless spending.
    They like to name their bills in attractive ways, but the 
bottom line is a very simple thing: they all add to inflation, 
whether it's the American Rescue Plan, the Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Act, or the worst-named bill perhaps in American 
history, the Inflation Reduction Act.
    Anyone who believes that inflation has gone down because of 
the Inflation Reduction Act, all you have to do is look at the 
latest information coming out of the Federal Reserve itself. 
Inflation continues to increase.
    These bills used to be hailed positively as a part of 
Bidenomics, but now they're just economics, because no one can 
afford President Biden's approach to solving the problems that 
we see in our Nation.
    And I know this to be true because it doesn't matter 
whether I'm at home in South Carolina or any other State around 
the country, I keep hearing the same things from consumers:
    Rent is too high. I'll never be able to afford a mortgage.
    I'm living paycheck to paycheck. My grocery bills are 
staggering, and I can barely afford them.
    Or I spent my entire life working and building up enough 
savings just to retire, but now I'm worried that those savings 
won't go far enough and I'll have to go back to work.
    Or I'm really worried about my finances and our economy.
    And they always end with a simple question: What can you do 
to help me?
    The number one concern, besides the devastation that 
Americans are experiencing because of the unsafe, insecure, 
wide-open southern border, the number one concern outside of 
the border is the economy.
    And Americans across the country point their fingers at the 
devastation of inflation. Inflation today is costing the 
average American family an additional $8,508 just to buy the 
same things they were able to buy before President Biden took 
office.
    It is truly unfortunate that the Biden administration 
continues to play a game of deflection; not taking 
responsibility, not solving the problem, but looking for 
someone else to blame other than the man in the mirror.
    First, the Biden administration told us that the challenges 
that we were seeing with inflation were transitory. I cannot 
tell you the number of hearings I sat through, whether it was 
Secretary Yellen or others, who said that this is transitory 
because of COVID.
    Well, then they changed the story that it was a Putin's 
price hike because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And 
then, it was greedflation or shrinkflation, when the fact of 
the matter is simply Biden's inflation.
    Here's the truth; the Biden administration's spending 
policies have caused the inflation that we're seeing and the 
economic devastation it is producing. They are the key 
contributors to the price hikes we are all experiencing today.
    Let's take a step back to understand what inflation really 
feels like to the average American.
    Prices across the board have certainly increased nearly 20 
percent since Biden took office. Yes, a 20 percent increase in 
just over 3 years. For example, butter is up 27 percent; 
chicken, 26 percent; white bread, 30 percent.
    When you go to the pump, you don't have to believe what 
President Biden says about the challenges. All you have to do 
is see the price at the pump, a 40 percent increase; energy 
costs, a 25 percent increase.
    I could spend the rest of my time this morning discussing 
other examples of how much prices have increased, but the 
American people know all too well that the challenges that they 
face and where it comes. That's why they trust him so little on 
the economy.
    It is crystal clear. They know what they see with their own 
eyes. Yet, instead of looking at ways we can bring inflation 
down, this Administration continues to look for scapegoats, 
such as corporate America.
    But here's what the Federal Reserve recently studied. The 
Federal Reserve studied the Administration's claims that 
corporations are driving up inflation and came to the 
conclusion, and I'll just read it, unprecedented large and 
direct Government intervention and accommodative monetary 
policy. Profits were back to their prepandemic levels by the 
end of 2022.
    With respect to shrinkflation, the Biden administration's 
own BLS, Bureau of Labor Statistics, reported that its effects 
have resulted in a 0.01 percent average annual increase to 
prices and has a very small impact on the overall inflation 
picture.
    I know this is really uncomfortable for some of you to 
listen to it. That's just called the facts.
    What we should be talking about today is the direct harm 
this Administration's policies are causing as they continue to 
lead to more inflation.
    We should be talking about the inflation spike we are 
likely to see after billions and billions of dollars in student 
loans are illegally forgiven by this Administration.
    We should be talking about a Federal debt that is growing 
by trillions of dollars every single year.
    The American people are smart. They see through this 
blatant attempt by this Administration to blame others for the 
inevitable results of their policies.
    It's time for the Biden administration and their friends on 
the other side of the aisle to wake up and smell the coffee 
that now costs 30 percent more.
    Out-of-control, reckless spending led to runaway inflation 
that has remained elevated for years now. We must all accept 
the fact and return to sound economic policies that make 
affording the basics just a bit easier for the American family.
    With that, I yield back and look forward to asking some 
questions.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    We welcome the three witnesses to the Committee.
    Mr. Bilal Baydoun is the Director of Policy and Research at 
Groundwork Collaborative. Mr. Baydoun has served as a senior 
advisor in several Government organizations, including the city 
of Dearborn, Michigan. He holds a master's in public policy 
from the University of Michigan.
    Dr. Allison Schrager is a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan 
Institute. She's an economist and contributing editor at City 
Journal; cofounder of LifeCycle Finance Partners. Dr. Schrager 
earned her graduate degree from the University of Edinburgh and 
a Ph.D. in economics from Columbia University.
    Dr. Schrager, welcome.
    Dr. Ali Bustamante is the Director of the Worker Power and 
Economic Security Program with the Roosevelt Institute. Dr. 
Bustamante is an expert in labor, economics, and public policy. 
Prior to joining Roosevelt, he served as Chief Economist at the 
Louisiana Workforce Commission. He received his BA and Ph.D. 
from the University of Miami.
    Dr. Bustamante, welcome.
    Mr. Baydoun, please begin.

 STATEMENT OF BILAL BAYDOUN, DIRECTOR OF POLICY AND RESEARCH, 
                    GROUNDWORK COLLABORATIVE

    Mr. Baydoun. Thank you, Senator. Chairman Brown, Ranking 
Member Scott, Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today.
    My name is Bilal Baydoun. I'm the Director of Policy and 
Research at the Groundwork Collaborative, an economic think 
tank based here in Washington.
    The modern price tag was invented by John Wanamaker of 
Philadelphia, a devout Presbyterian who believed that, if we 
were equal before God, we ought to be equal before price. And 
so, from the very beginning, the price tag was infused with a 
sense of fairness and equality.
    Yet, in America today, a fair price, let alone a sweet 
deal, is harder and harder to come by. In the age of corporate 
concentration and high-powered algorithms, pricing is in the 
midst of a troubling transformation, and the price tag as we 
know it may become a relic of the past.
    Ride-share apps like Uber have reportedly charged users 
higher prices if their phone battery was lower. Insurance 
companies fly drones above our property in search of signs of 
clutter, and car companies install software that reports our 
driving behavior to insurance companies, who use the data to 
hike our rates.
    Amazon, reportedly, changes prices millions of times per 
day, while running secret price-hiking experiments like Project 
Nessie that reaped $1 billion in revenue.
    Frustratingly, food delivery apps like Uber Eats show us 
one menu price upfront, only to tack on mysterious junk fees 
right at checkout.
    In a practice known as shrinkflation, companies discretely 
reduce the size or volume of common household items, everything 
from jars of peanut butter to bars of soap, to charge consumers 
more for less.
    All of these tactics converge on a single goal: find out 
the maximum price that individual consumers are willing to pay.
    In competitive markets, companies often have to innovate, 
outwork the competition, and improve products and services in 
order to keep customers happy. But a perfect storm in our 
economy made it much easier for companies to simply price their 
way to record profits.
    First, companies have gotten bigger. About three-quarters 
of domestic industries have become more concentrated and are 
dominated by fewer players than they were 20 years ago. This 
grants the remaining large firms the freedom to hike prices 
without fear of being undercut by the competition.
    Second, pricing has gone high-tech. Technological advances, 
such as cloud computing, AI, and surveillance targeting have 
enabled companies to collect reams of personal information on 
consumers and change prices in under a nanosecond.
    These technologies help companies build profiles of 
individual customers that include things like our age, marital 
status, estimated salary, ethnicity, the magazines we read, and 
even the type of topics we discuss online.
    Finally, market power and technological advances came 
together in the shadow of inflation, giving companies the cover 
to roll out pricing strategies once thought to be too risky, 
precisely because consumers dislike them.
    But with prices rising everywhere, customers couldn't 
distinguish which hikes were due to rising costs and which were 
truly excessive. As a Barclay's executive told Bloomberg in 
2022, quote, the longer inflation lasts and the more widespread 
it is, the more air cover it gives companies to raise prices. 
Unquote.
    The complex algorithms entrusted with setting prices to 
maximize revenues have neither a conscience nor legal training, 
which is why algorithmic pricing can be both discriminatory and 
collusive. But we don't have to accept the end of a fair price 
as inevitable. We must continue to enforce current laws that 
outlaw collusion and unfair and deceptive practices, while also 
recognizing that algorithms can fix prices just as well as 
human agents can.
    But new laws are also necessary. The Price Gouging 
Prevention Act, introduced in this chamber, would enable the 
Federal Trade Commission to enforce a Federal anti-price-
gouging statute. Likewise, the Shrinkflation Prevention Act 
would classify shrinkflation as a deceptive practice and 
empower the FTC to take civil action on behalf of consumers.
    We must also continue to eliminate junk fees and regulate 
complex pricing structures that push hidden fees on consumers. 
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau's late fees rule 
demonstrates that policymakers can and must protect consumers 
from predatory fees. By capping late fees at $8, the CFPB will 
save American families more than $10 billion annually.
    Finally, we can't allow companies to harvest our data and 
use it to price discriminate against us. Protecting data 
privacy, including transactions data, is essential to 
confronting this new pricing regime and ensuring companies 
cannot surveil consumers, while pushing arbitrary price hikes.
    There's no doubt we have the tools to restore a fair price 
in America. We just have to use them.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Mr. Baydoun. Dr. Schrager.

    STATEMENT OF ALLISON SCHRAGER, SENIOR FELLOW, MANHATTAN 
                           INSTITUTE

    Ms. Schrager. Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, Members 
of the Committee, thank you for the invitation today.
    I'm a Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute, where I 
research fiscal and monetary policy and financial markets. I am 
also a columnist at Bloomberg Opinion.
    And the high-inflation environment we're in is a terrible 
economic burden for American households, especially those 
living paycheck to paycheck or struggling to afford groceries, 
let alone enjoy the occasional meal out with their family.
    And it's tempting to blame whoever raised the price we see, 
the firms we buy goods and services from, who appear to be 
getting rich off of our bills. But they are not at fault; they 
are merely reacting to the realities of the high uncertain 
inflation environment we are all facing.
    In order to bring inflation down, we need to understand it, 
how it started, and why it persists. History has shown that 
misdiagnosing the problem, and then, implementing misguided 
policies will only create more harm for American households.
    And my testimony explains how we got here and why inflation 
remains high. The main reason it's remaining high is we're 
still in an elevated, high-demand environment, and that is made 
worse by a stimulative fiscal policy. Inflation, though, cannot 
be blamed on greedy corporations.
    First, there's no reason to think that corporations have 
just suddenly become greedy. It is natural to increase prices 
when you're facing a period of high demand.
    Take the example of an umbrella salesman in the rain. It 
does feel really unfair that he raises his price when it rains, 
but if he didn't increase prices when it starts to sprinkle, 
there would be no umbrellas left when there was a downpour. Or 
if he can't make more money in the rain, why would he bother 
sitting in the rain himself and sell umbrellas?
    We see a similar story playing out in markets today. Prices 
are increasing because demand is still high. We see consumer 
spending is still up. We see a rather very tight and vigorous 
labor market, and GDP, particularly around demand focusing, is 
still growing. And prices do rise when demand is high, and this 
price adjustment is how markets ration goods.
    It is true that there was an increase in profits in 2021, 
when inflation first spiked, but profits peaked in 2021 and 
have since fallen and leveled off.
    One way to understand what happened is that, initially, 
firms raised prices in response to increased demands and the 
limited supply coming out of the pandemic. But just like that 
umbrella salesman, they increased prices and reduced that 
higher demand.
    Now, at first, the cost of their inputs did not go up as 
much, in part, because firms had existing contracts. But as 
time went on, they had to renegotiate those contracts and gave 
many of their employees raises, and then, profit margins 
declined.
    So, in addition to just re-increasing prices, firms might, 
instead, just shrink the volume of the product they sell, but 
keep prices the same. Shrinkflation is like fewer potato chips 
in a bag. But this is just another way for firms to increase 
prices.
    And again, I see why this is extremely frustrating to 
customers. They are getting less and paying more. But it is 
really just another way to pass along the high price increase 
of the sort of overall high-demand environment we have and 
rising input costs.
    You know, whether or not increasing prices or increasing 
the volume of the goods is better, it really is sort of hard to 
say. But it's important to understand that sometimes just 
charging more reduces sort of more people from buying the good 
altogether.
    Now, dynamic pricing is another way that you can increase 
prices. And this is just increasing prices for some consumers 
and not others, and particularly, consumers who are more 
willing and able to pay more. Wendy's recently attempted this 
when they floated the idea of charging more during peak times.
    But an example of dynamic pricing that predates Wendy's is 
airlines. We've been living with their dynamic pricing for 
years. They charge more during peak times or they are now 
charging more for goods that used to be included in the price, 
like a checked bag or picking your seat.
    Now, this is, again, consumers hate this because it feels 
unfair. But it's important to understand this actually is how 
airlines also deal with the pricing pressure from technology 
that enables consumers to look at goods, to use the internet to 
sort of price-comparison shop, which puts pricing pressure on 
airlines. And the result is that the cost of flying has gone 
down.
    In the 1980s, only 30 percent of Americans had flown in the 
last year. Now, it is more like 50 percent, in large part 
because lower-income Americans do have a cheaper option, even 
if it means worse service.
    And the same is true for Wendy's. If they would just 
increase prices across the board, then fewer people would be 
able to go to Wendy's. And we can expect more of this. And in 
fact, research shows that a lot of the same technology that 
enables price discrimination has also created a more inclusive 
market and had some deflationary pressure on prices before the 
pandemic.
    So, I understand why this high-pricing environment is 
causing frustration for consumers. It causes frustration for 
me, too. But this is, again, the result of the high-demand 
environment we're in, and that is largely made worse by sort of 
stimulative fiscal policies that are still piling on, adding 
fuel to the fire to this high-demand environment.
    Past attempts from companies raising prices--if we choose 
the wrong solutions, such as price controls, those have proven 
counterproductive in the past. They create shortages. They 
reduce incentives to sell and produce, and they can worsen 
inflation.
    The best way to fix this is not to undermine the Fed's 
attempts to control inflation; pull back on spending; stop 
handouts, especially to high-earners who don't need them, and 
try to reduce the debt.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Dr. Schrager. Dr. Bustamante, 
welcome.

     STATEMENT OF ALI R. BUSTAMANTE PROFESSOR OF PRACTICE, 
UNIVERSITY OF NEW ORLEANS DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMICS AND FINANCE, 
   AND DIRECTOR, WORKER POWER AND ECONOMIC SECURITY PROGRAM, 
                      ROOSEVELT INSTITUTE

    Mr. Bustamante. Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, and 
honourable Members of the Committee, thank you for inviting me 
to speak on the pressing issues surrounding how corporate 
pricing strategies are impacting prices and their implications 
for consumer finances.
    In my testimony I will make three points.
    One, inflation is being driven, in part, by corporate 
profiteering related to firms' price-setting power.
    Second, corporate profiteering is harming consumers, 
workers, and small businesses.
    And three, Government has tools that can restrict corporate 
profiteering and protect consumers and small businesses.
    First, there is evidence that large corporations are 
engaging in pricing strategies that are contributing to 
elevated prices. Research conducted by my colleagues and I at 
the Roosevelt Institute has found that a recent sharp rise in 
markups by large corporations is contributing to inflation. 
Markups are the difference between the prices consumers pay for 
goods or services and how much it costs to make or provide 
them. Markups are low in competitive markets. But, as 
corporations have accumulated significant market power over the 
years, they have been able to increase prices without 
sacrificing profit. Our research finds average markups grew 
from 48 percent above cost in 2014 to 69 percent above cost in 
2023, and that is growth that is being driven by a few large 
corporations.
    For consumers, markups can take several forms through 
various pricing strategies employed by corporations.
    Standard retail markup. This is the most straightforward 
markup where sellers add a percentage to the cost of goods and 
services to generate profit.
    Shrinkflation. Reducing the quantity or size of a product 
while maintaining or increasing its price.
    Dynamic pricing. A method of price discrimination whereby 
prices adjust in real time using pricing algorithms and 
sophisticated consumer data, often with new artificial 
intelligence methods.
    Decoy pricing. Pricing structures where firms introduce a 
third, less attractive option to lead consumers to choose a 
more expensive option than they originally might have.
    Bundling. Bundling products together to sell them at a 
price that seems to offer a savings compared to buying each 
item individually, but that often includes a markup.
    Markups, and the sophisticated pricing strategies that are 
driving them, are on the rise because of large corporations' 
outsized market power. Research finds that smaller firms in 
less consolidated industries have not driven explicit markup 
growth.
    Take the fast-food industry, for example. My recent 
research of markups finds that the average markup in the fast-
food industry grew by 14.7 percent during the past decade. When 
analyzing markups at the 10 largest fast-food firms in 2023, we 
found that they were the highest at Wendy's, McDonald's, and 
Restaurant Brands International, the parent company of Burger 
King and Popeyes. At these firms, prices were between 80 and 91 
percent above companies' marginal costs. These large companies 
are charging consumers above and beyond what is necessary for 
typical profit margins.
    Second, there is ample evidence that markups and corporate 
profiteering in general by large corporations are harming 
consumers, workers, and small businesses.
    Consumer surplus, how economists measure the social/
economic benefits of consumption, would have been 14 percent 
higher in 2019 if markups had remained stable at 2006 levels 
and 50 percent higher if firms passed along the reductions in 
their costs over that period to consumers. This hits low-income 
consumers the hardest, as their disposable income is stretched 
even thinner, forcing them to make difficult decisions about 
the basic necessities and bills they need to cover.
    Workers are also being squeezed. Research shows that 
increases in markups lead to a decline in wages of 
approximately 12 percent, because markups lead to a reduction 
in the aggregate demand for labor. The harmful effect of 
markups on workers is also visible in the declining share of 
income going to workers. Rather than rewarding workers who 
drive productivity in the first place, these large corporations 
driving growth in markups are the same ones returning higher 
profits from markups to wealthy shareholders via stock buybacks 
and dividends.
    Furthermore, markups reflect a winner-take-most economic 
environment where large corporations with price-setting power 
also have the capability to reduce competition by creating 
barriers to new firms to enter the market, crowd out smaller 
firms, and squeeze supplier margins in order to protect and 
expand their market share.
    Lastly, I'd like to discuss the myriad of available 
Government tools that can restrict corporate profiteering and 
protect consumers, workers, and small businesses.
    We need to enforce and strengthen antitrust laws to prevent 
monopolistic practices and ensure competitive markets, 
particularly in industries where a few companies control 
significant market share, leading to higher markups.
    Policymakers can move to create guidelines and restrictions 
around the use of dynamic and personalized pricing to prevent 
unfair or deceptive practices by requiring businesses to fully 
disclose the pricing structure of their products and services. 
This would disincentivize corporations from enjoying these 
predatory pricing practices.
    To improve fairness and transparency in pricing, 
administrative agencies like the Consumer Financial Protection 
Bureau can mandate clearer disclosure of pricing components and 
service fees and enforce rules against deceptive pricing 
practices or hidden fees. This is particularly impactful in 
sectors prone to higher markups, such as financial services and 
health care.
    There are great economic benefits to be gained by reining 
in markups and unfair corporate pricing strategies, including 
lower prices in the short term and more competitive economic 
environment for business and workers in the medium and long 
term. Yet, inaction from both regulators and legislators will 
enable corporate profiteering that continues to elevate prices, 
harm consumers, and squeeze small businesses.
    Thank you.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Dr. Bustamante. And the question 
will go to Senator Tester of Montana.
    Senator Tester. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for the courtesy.
    And I want to thank you and the Ranking Member for holding 
this very important hearing.
    And I appreciate the folks who gave their testimony.
    I want to start with you, Dr. Bustamante.
    I believe in capitalism. I think you've got to have 
competition in the marketplace. It keeps everybody honest--
everybody honest.
    I think what we've seen in many, many different sectors of 
our economy is way too much consolidation. I want to bring 
agriculture up as one. You know the statistics. Three-quarters 
of the global grain market is controlled by four traders. 
Eighty-two percent of the U.S. beef market is controlled by 
four packers.
    I'm going to tell you, and I'm a farmer in my real life--
that concentration prevents folks that are in production 
agriculture, family farmers, from being able to survive. And by 
the way, the statistics on the other end point that out. 
Eighty-five percent of farm income is going to 7 percent of the 
farms. Ninety-three percent of the farms in Montana, for 
example, share just 15 percent of the farm income. That's a 
system that, quite frankly, needs some attention. We're talking 
about consumers getting taken advantage of. We talk about 
producers of the food in this case getting taken advantage of.
    Can you tell me if, and excuse me if I'm stepping out, but 
can you tell me if things like the Packers and Stockyards Act 
that was passed over 100 years ago, because the industry of 
meat packing was so consolidated, and today's it's even more 
consolidated than it was 100 years ago, is something that we 
should really focus on? Or is it a different issue than just 
making sure that people are following the antitrust laws that 
are out there?
    Mr. Bustamante. Consolidation has been a huge issue driving 
markups and higher market concentration in so many industries. 
As you mentioned, when we think of meat and meat processing, 
the fact that cattle ranchers used to get about 67 percent of 
every dollar that consumers were paying, was actually going to 
them, now it's closer to 33 percent. And this is a huge red 
flag that meat packers are, basically, driving consumer prices, 
but actually not passing on those gains to cattle ranchers or 
to workers to begin with.
    Senator Tester. Yes.
    Mr. Bustamante. And so, it's really being able to push back 
against consolidation, being able to push back against these 
large corporations that, ultimately, have so much market share 
that they're able to squeezer suppliers, consumers, and workers 
at the same time.
    Senator Tester. Well, thank you for that. Because you're 
spot on.
    And I will tell you food security is really, really 
important in this country. And because there's just not 
enforcement of laws that have been on the books for 100 years, 
we're forcing more consolidation at the ground level. And I've 
said this and I mean this, if we lose family farm agriculture 
in this country, this country becomes far, far, far less 
secure. And so, I think Congress needs to pay attention to 
that.
    And in that vein, I would tell you that Chairwoman Stabenow 
put out her farm bill yesterday, and in that she included a 
bill that I've been pushing for and that I've sponsored; the 
Meat and Poultry Special Investigator Act.
    This is for you, Mr. Baydoun. You mentioned the negative 
impacts of consolidation, of reduced competition, however you 
want to put it, in your testimony. Could you flesh out a little 
more what increased competition and accountability, how that 
could help farmers, ranchers, consumers, and what Congress 
needs to do from your perspective to try to make this happen?
    Mr. Baydoun. Absolutely, Senator. Thanks for the question.
    In competitive markets, we know that prices come down, in 
part, because firms have to compete against one another to win 
over consumer loyalty. And the consolidation that we've seen 
over the last 20 years especially has created such a situation 
where pricing has been divorced from competition.
    And so, whereas, once pricing was a fairly straightforward 
process that took into account factors such as the cost of 
materials, labor, the lack of competition, and also, the advent 
of algorithms, in which, you know, all sorts of industries, 
including beef processing, for example, use algorithms; all 
share the same algorithm, and that, effectively, allows these 
companies to collude in higher prices. Now, those higher prices 
are all across the supply chain and, ultimately, consumers feel 
that at the checkout line.
    Senator Tester. Well, I just appreciate this hearing 
because I firmly believe, if you're worried about how many 
ounces are in a potato chip bag, or Fritos, or an Oreo cookie 
bag, competition can fix that problem, but Congress has to do 
their job.
    Thank you guys very much.
    Chair Brown. Senator Scott of South Carolina is recognized.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you all for being here this morning.
    Since taking office, the Biden administration has been on a 
regulatory blitz. And what I mean by that is, if you compare it 
to the Obama administration, where you saw about $300 billion 
of increased cost resulting from more regulations, under the 
Biden administration, we've seen about a $1.3, almost a $1.4, 
trillion increase in the regulatory burden put on businesses. 
Having been in business, started a few businesses myself, that 
could only increase the cost of being in business.
    Now, you compare that with the total cost of the Trump 
administration, that was a little bit over $30 billion. So, $30 
billion with the Trump administration; $300 billion with the 
Obama administration, and over $1.3, nearly $1.4, trillion of 
added regulatory cost.
    Dr. Schrager, do you agree that the breakneck speed of new 
regulations finalized by this Administration has contributed to 
inflation?
    Ms. Schrager. Yes, it certainly has contributed. So, 
there's a lot of factors going on. But, certainly, when you 
make it more expensive for businesses to produce, spend more 
time on paperwork, especially a huge part of inflation that 
consumers are having problems with is the cost of housing. And 
certainly, a lot of regulation and especially a lot of 
environmental regulations that make it more expensive to build 
housing is making that more expensive. And I think we're seeing 
in a lot of surveys that, as I said, the cost of housing is 
really number one for a lot of consumers. So, I think 
deregulation would certainly--it wouldn't solve all of the 
inflation problems, but it would certainly help.
    Senator Scott. Let me just stay on that subject because I 
hadn't thought about what you just said as it relates to 
housing. I've certainly seen the housing costs go up without 
question.
    I served some time on the local government, where we 
improved and increased the building requirements in Charleston 
County. If you think about the regulatory burden that comes 
from a municipality or a county, and then, you add that on top 
of the State, and on top of that is the Federal Government, you 
see this regulatory burden that is in many ways for small 
businesses, frankly, oppressive.
    I also think that an oppressive regulatory environment 
actually reduces competition and only benefits the players who 
are already in that space, and is more likely to create a 
monopoly in that space. That is not good for consumers.
    Thoughts?
    Ms. Schrager. Yes. That's absolutely true. And, in fact, we 
see this a lot in Europe, who have a lot more regulatory 
burden, particularly around technology, which we're talking 
about here, and how firms use data.
    And this was intended, as I said, to increase competition, 
but it actually had the opposite effect, because complying with 
all these regulations has actually made technological 
entrepreneurship much harder there.
    Senator Scott. There's no doubt when you see our largest 
technological firms saying, ``Please regulate me. Please 
regulate me,'' because it closes the door of competition. It 
kind of answers the question itself.
    A different question for you: I won't say this very well, 
but I'll do my best. From my perspective watching the 
legislation leave Washington and impact the country, whether 
it's the first bill signed into law, the $1.9 trillion 
legislation, that artificial stimulation where you're pouring 
new resources or cash into our economy--actually, artificial 
stimulation called money from the Government--increases the 
demand without increasing the supply. And so, if you increase 
the demand without increasing the supply, and you add on top of 
that the snarl from a transportation perspective that we saw in 
2021 and 2022, it's harder to get your supplies. So, it only 
increases the demand because you have fewer supplies, and you 
have more money in the market, which also increases the supply.
    The ultimate outcome of that is less supply, larger demand, 
and no real ability to see when your products are going to get 
there. That is very hard for businesses to manage, and it only 
leads to a more challenging environment.
    Ms. Schrager. Yes, exactly. I think even economists who 
associate themselves as Democrats have been saying that at 
least 3 to 4 percentage points of the initial inflation was due 
to stimulative fiscal policy, which has definitely sort of 
added to demand. And, you know, it's important to argue we 
still have very stimulative fiscal policy, despite the fact 
we're in a high inflation environment, which makes the Fed's 
job a lot harder.
    Senator Scott. Right. I only have about 20 seconds left.
    You said, I think, during your opening comments that the 
corporate profits peaked in 2021?
    Ms. Schrager. 2022.
    Senator Scott. 2022. I think that's actually relevant as 
well. As we think about the greed of our corporations--and 
frankly, I'm not going to sit here and defend any of them; they 
have the ability and responsibility of defending themselves--
but, as a kid who grew up in poverty, the one thing that I can 
tell you is that the price that we're seeing at the pump, and 
the lack of the ability for a single mother to navigate gas 
prices, energy prices, and food prices, when we see a glut of 
resources coming into the marketplace, and for 52 consecutive 
paychecks, inflation outpaces her wage increases, that's a 
devastation. That's not a problem, but a crisis.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    This question is to both of you, to Mr. Baydoun and to Dr. 
Bustamante. Ohioans are angry, as we all know, as they are all 
over the country, about the rising cost of everything. Every 
time they go to the grocery store, families pay for corporate 
stock buybacks, pay for executive bonuses. As prices increase, 
so do profits. Corporate profits climbed to record highs at the 
end of 2023, are projected to keep climbing through 2024.
    Dr. Bustamante, how much are corporate profits, in their 
quest to drive them higher and higher, how much does that 
contribute to rising prices today?
    Mr. Bustamante. Thank you for that question, Senator.
    When we look at data from the San Francisco Federal 
Reserve, we actually find that more than two-thirds of 
inflation is actually being driven by supply factors and other 
factors that are not demand-related. And, in fact, when we look 
at corporate profiteering and we're looking at markups, that's 
largely accounting for about 16 percent of inflation that we're 
actually seeing over the past 6 months.
    Chair Brown. Mr. Baydoun, what do you think about that?
    Mr. Baydoun. Our own analysis, Senator, at Groundwork has 
found that, in the second and third quarters of 2023, corporate 
profits drove over half of inflation, about 53 percent of 
inflation.
    Just a point of comparison, over the last 40 years before 
the pandemic, profits drove just 11 percent of inflation. And I 
think what's interesting over this year is that, although 
consumer prices have risen, the price of inputs has gone down, 
and also, the labor share of income has gone down. And so, 
there's still plenty more of savings to pass on to consumers, 
but there's also plenty more to share with workers.
    Chair Brown. And what you said tracks with a report that I 
cited earlier on the Kansas City Fed.
    Mr. Baydoun, you spoke about higher profits are 
contributing to higher prices. We've seen companies now raise 
prices, as you know, and shrink their products, while charging 
people the same price or even raising the price. This means 
people are either buying less of the things they need or paying 
more, or both.
    A study found that so-called ``shrinkflation'' accounts for 
about 10 percent of the price increases consumers experienced. 
Consumers really don't know how much their money is getting 
them.
    Could you provide other examples of how corporations use 
so-called ``shrinkflation'' to make it harder for consumers to 
find the lowest price?
    Mr. Baydoun. Absolutely, Senator.
    I think Americans would really be stunned to see the 
breadth of how many different strategies there are. It really 
runs the gamut from lowering the number of paper towels that 
come in a roll, the number of Kleenex that are in a box. It 
could be increasing the indentation of a drink, so that, you 
know, less liquid could go inside. It could be discretely 
reducing the amount of dish soap in the bottle. And so, really, 
there's all sorts of creative ways.
    I would also add that, in addition to shrinkflation, 
there's also a practice known as ``skimpflation,'' which 
involves degrading the quality of those products, while keeping 
the price the same.
    And so, we're now seeing a new frontier of ways to deceive 
consumers into paying higher prices.
    Chair Brown. So, talk about, if you would, talk about 
technology, what kind of ways it's easier for corporations to 
charge higher prices and keep consumers in the dark. And can we 
have free market competition of customers who cannot compare 
prices and can't really shop around for lower prices?
    Mr. Baydoun. Absolutely, Senator.
    You know, pricing, as I said, was a fairly simple formula. 
It took into account the cost of materials, the cost of labor, 
and some rudimentary analysis about what your competition was 
up to. And companies would simply stick that final price of 
that calculation on a price tag and they would let it be.
    But today, we are in a totally different era. Technology 
really enables companies to, number one, surveil consumers and 
collect data about consumers that, frankly, only our families 
and God should know about--things like marital status, 
ethnicity. And so, all of those things are really fed into 
algorithms that are able to test each one of our sensitivities 
to price hikes. And the goal is always the same. It's, let's 
find out the maximum price that each individual consumer is 
willing to pay.
    Chair Brown. Dr. Bustamante, your thoughts on that?
    Mr. Bustamante. Yes, thank you, Senator.
    What we ultimately know is that, when we look at these 
pricing strategies, they're very much black boxes that 
corporations are ultimately employing. And that really opens 
the door for potential discriminatory practices, for practices 
that ultimately harm families who are already on the brink of 
having so much financial stress in their lives.
    Chair Brown. Thank you.
    I wanted to mention, next week, in the next hearing, we're 
going to talk about junk fees. And we know that the 
complexities of technology, and the comments you each made 
about the employment of these technologies by companies that 
produce these products, make fees even harder to ascertain and 
understand. CFPB just released a report that found that 
consumers pay more with complex pricing structures. The 
Committee next week will hold a hearing examining how junk fees 
hurt consumers and how we can ensure consumers can keep more of 
their own money. Senator Tillis of North Carolina.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Baydoun, so if someone making a business decision to 
charge a price that they believe is over a general market 
value, that reduces the number of people that can purchase it, 
do you think that's a bad practice?
    Mr. Baydoun. Senator, I think if companies engage in 
practices that are unfair, deceptive--
    Senator Tillis. Well, no, I'm back to that specific use 
case.
    Mr. Baydoun. Mm-hmm.
    Senator Tillis. I have a business person knowingly making a 
decision to price above, to reduce the number of people that 
could afford a product that I've decided to sell. Do you think 
that that's fundamentally a bad decision?
    Mr. Baydoun. Not necessarily, Senator, but we do have--the 
concept of price gouging still applies. And if companies are 
raising prices to protect their profit margins from rising 
costs, that's one consideration. But if they're hiking their 
prices to reap super-normal profits, that's a problem.
    Senator Tillis. In your opening statement, I think you may 
have mentioned that you believe corporate profit margins are 
abnormally high. Do you agree with that, that they are 
abnormally high? Because that seems to be in conflict with the 
Fed report of September 2023, where they said, when you adjust 
for COVID, some of the COVID policies implemented, that they 
were, more or less, back to prepandemic levels. So, do you 
disagree with the Fed's assessment?
    Mr. Baydoun. Senator, over the last 3 years, corporate 
profit margins have hovered around 70-year highs.
    Senator Tillis. So, you disagree with the Fed's assessment 
in their September 2023 report?
    Mr. Baydoun. I'm not familiar with that specific--
    Senator Tillis. I'm asking for the record, in that context, 
if you disagree because it seems to be in conflict. I'm just 
curious.
    Mr. Baydoun. Mm-hmm.
    Senator Tillis. And thank you, Mr. Baydoun, for the 
skimpflation. That's a new one I can add to my lexicon.
    Let's use Frito-Lay as an example. Look, they're making--I 
was using that example. You answered the question differently.
    But a homeowner who decides to price a house above the 
market is making that decision at an atomic level. I'm glad you 
actually did not say that that was a bad thing. Because we 
can't separate, we can't create a free market sort of concept 
for small businesses and not a free market concept for big 
businesses, because those big businesses were once small.
    And I think it's very dangerous when we decide that perhaps 
we should have some oversight to determine what an adequate 
profit margin is for, let's say, a Frito-Lay. I don't know, 
you're probably too young to remember it, but Frito-Lay had a 
catastrophic failure with fat-free potato chips. Do you 
remember those, Mr. Chair, olestra, that ended up not doing 
very well?
    Businesses don't always succeed. Sometimes businesses lose 
money. And so, we only seem to talk about this when businesses 
are succeeding, when businesses aren't going into bankruptcy. 
I, for one, think that the internet is doing a pretty good job 
of identifying when potato chip bags are getting smaller.
    I, for one, am very cheap. So, I'll go find a brand that I 
like that hasn't skimped on me or hasn't shrunk on me. I don't 
know why the free market is not going to take care of this.
    But you did bring up something that's critically important 
that I happen to agree with. It's actually the only thing I 
agree with, to be honest with you, based on your opening 
testimony. And that is the use of consumer data. This is where 
we're failing.
    We just had a hearing, Mr. Chair, in Finance yesterday. A 
couple of years ago, when Europe implemented GDPR, Congress was 
hot to say, ``We've got to get controls over data. People 
should have to explicitly opt into having their data shared, 
knowingly marketing it,'' et cetera. Everybody was hot on it, 
and then, all of a sudden, we found out there were two or three 
committees involved. We wasted 2 or 3 years, and we haven't 
done a damn thing.
    As a matter of fact, we've implemented a patchwork, States 
have, that are actually making it more costly. So now, to some 
people here, bad corporations are actually incurring more costs 
because they're having to adhere to a patchwork of data privacy 
rules at the State level, because Congress has failed to act.
    I actually believe, if we want to reduce prices, then we 
have to go back to what Ranking Member Scott referred to. We 
can't just say it's just corporate greed. We have to look at 
the last 3 or 4 years of added regulatory burdens, of a lack of 
really trying to work on trade agreements--all these things 
that actually affect global competition and, ultimately, price 
points.
    But, on that issue, because it was brought up in Finance, 
on data privacy, data ownership, data breach, boy, I hope we 
can get that under control, because if we do, it will fix some 
of this stuff that you're talking about.
    Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Tillis. Senator Warren of 
Massachusetts is recognized.
    Senator Warren. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    If we're going to talk about markets, and how perfect 
markets are, maybe the one thing we should talk about is how 
concentrated markets have become. And when we have concentrated 
markets, we have a whole lot less competition.
    So, just a handful of companies have taken over the food 
industry, thanks to literally hundreds of mergers over the last 
50 years. Just four grocery chains control an average of 72 
percent of sales in American cities. And in most grocery 
categories, like bread, pasta, beef, cereal, just four 
companies control more than 60 percent of the market.
    Now, less competition means food brands don't have to 
compete on either price or product quality. For families' 
pocketbooks, that means higher prices. Grocery prices have 
climbed faster than inflation over the past few years. Now, 
families are paying 25 percent more than they did before the 
pandemic.
    So, I want to talk today about the tricks and traps that 
families face when they head to the grocery store. Dr. 
Bustamante, you have researched corporate pricing practices. I 
understand that when inflation increases, food producers and 
grocery stores may need to pass on some of those higher costs 
to customers. But the question is: have groceries gotten more 
expensive just because of inflation--that is, passing along 
higher prices--or is there more going on here?
    Mr. Bustamante. Thank you, Senator.
    What we actually see is that, if you look at the long-term 
price, the actual marginal cost of production for many 
groceries has actually gone down. And part of the big reason 
for this is actually with just the nature of the supply chains 
that have actually been developed over time.
    That being said, those lower marginal costs were not passed 
on to consumers. Instead, what we see is that, for the past 40 
years, this just growing and fastening trajectory of markups, 
basically, again, firms pricing their products and services at 
a much higher rate than the actual increase in cost. And what 
we see, during the past few years, that's just been accelerated 
due to the pandemic.
    Senator Warren. Right. And something they can do because 
there's a lot of concentration in the industry, so there's not 
much competition.
    In fact, corporate profits rose five times faster than 
inflation between 2020 and 2022. Kraft Heinz, which sells 
everything from Oreos to pasta sauce to coffee, increased 
profits by 448 percent over 2022. Cal-Maine, the largest egg 
producer in the U.S., increased profits by 718 percent. In 
fact, for most of 2023, corporate profits drove over half of 
inflation.
    Now, that hasn't stopped Big Food from pulling out another 
trick. Jacking up prices was not enough. So, food companies 
have decided to quietly shrink the size of products--lobbing 
off a few inches here, a few chips there, or a few cookies 
somewhere else.
    This shrinkflation is all about deceiving customers, so 
that corporations can have their profits. The CEO of the snack 
company Utz admitted calling shrinkflation ``the path to higher 
margins.'' So, it seems like we lost the basic principle of 
knowing how much something costs before we pay for it.
    Mr. Baydoun, you have been studying corporate behavior for 
years. Have you seen, in your research, have you seen a shift 
in behavior here?
    Mr. Baydoun. I have, Senator. Companies deploy a vast array 
of tactics that really threaten to make the price tag as we 
know it totally obsolete. I'll just name a few.
    In addition to shrinkflation, there's also skimpflation. 
This is the idea of degrading the quality of a product by using 
inferior ingredients, while keeping the price the same or 
higher.
    There's also dynamic pricing. This involves changing the 
price of a product hundreds, thousands, even millions of times 
in a day or week--making it difficult to predict costs.
    And finally, there's a practice known as drip pricing. This 
involves adding on mysterious, confusing fees, as consumers are 
making a purchase, as opposed to building all of those fees 
into the upfront cost.
    Senator Warren. OK. So, you've got a lot of tricks and 
traps you identify. I understand it not only happens when you 
pull something off the shelf, it also happens when families get 
to the cash register, when they get ready to check out.
    Mr. Baydoun, let's say you've picked out all of your 
groceries. The cashier rings them up or you ring them up 
yourself. And you use your credit card to pay. And you talk to 
us a little bit about the opportunities that big credit card 
companies have to squeeze consumers on their groceries?
    Mr. Baydoun. Absolutely, Senator.
    In many ways, customers get gouged once at the checkout 
line, and in many ways they get gouged again if they carry that 
balance on a credit card--not only through exorbitant APRs, but 
also through junk fees, like late fees. You know, up until 
recently, credit card issuers could charge as high as $41 for 
missing a payment, but, thankfully, the Consumer Financial 
Protection Bureau actually capped those fees at eight dollars, 
and that's something that will save 45 million Americans an 
average of $220 a year, $15 billion annually in total. And so, 
those are the sorts of interventions we need.
    Senator Warren. And special thanks to the Biden 
administration that has really started attacking these junk 
fees.
    Congress also needs to step up. We need to pass Senator 
Casey's Shrinkflation Prevention Act to end shrinkflation and 
my Price Gouging Prevention Act to give the FTC the tools it 
needs.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chair Brown. Thanks.
    Senator Hagerty of Tennessee is recognized.
    Senator Hagerty. Mr. Chairman, I'm wondering why we're 
having this meeting today. I have been, you know, very 
surprised by the fact that we're going through some type of 
blame-shifting exercise, where we know what the real cause of 
inflation is here in America. And the cause of inflation in 
America right now over the past 3\1/2\ years has to do with 
policies that have been implemented by the Biden administration 
and by Democrat legislation that was passed without a single 
Republican vote--the American Rescue Plan, as it was called; 
the Inflation Reduction Act, as it was called--dumping 
trillions of dollars into the economy, stimulating demand way 
beyond what the economy could encounter.
    You jack up demand and at the same time imposing massive 
regulatory constraints that suppress supply. It's obvious 
what's going to happen: prices go up.
    The American family, the American consumer can't withstand 
this. Prices are up 19 percent since Joe Biden took office. 
Young families can't afford a new home right now. The American 
public is suffering dramatically. Yet, here we are in a blame-
shifting exercise trying to argue about how many potato chips 
are in a bag of potato chips.
    Look, the American public can see right through this. 
Whether we pay the same price for fewer potato chips or pay 
more for the equivalent number of potato chips, inflation is 
real. And inflation is the product of policies that have been 
implemented that are damaging the American economy.
    You think about the blatant vote-buying that the Biden 
administration has undertaken with student loan forgiveness. 
Again, billions of dollars more into the economy--putting it on 
the backs of hardworking Americans to pay off doctors and 
lawyers and people with graduate degrees.
    The American can see through this. The American public is 
suffering. We've got bank failures. We've got serious issues 
that this Committee should be addressing. Yet, here we are 
today talking about some sloganeering exercise called 
``shrinkflation.'' This is not what we should be considering, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Hagerty. I guess you 
weren't here when we talked about that same bill when we 
limited the cost of insulin to $35 a month.
    Senator Smith of Minnesota is recognized.
    Senator Smith. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    I have a question I'm going to bring to you, Mr. 
Bustamante, in a minute, but I want to just follow up on what 
Senator Hagerty was asking about. He seems to be suggesting 
that Government spending is what is contributing to rising 
prices that consumers are experiencing at the grocery store or 
when they buy auto insurance.
    So, do you think the Child Tax Credit was contributing to 
inflation?
    Mr. Bustamante. Thank you for your question, Senator.
    When we actually look at, whether it's at 2022, whether 
it's looking at 2023, or even during the past 6 months, about 
two-thirds of inflation is actually due to supply factors, as 
well as other factors unrelated to demand.
    Senator Smith. Right, right. So, our investment in the 
Child Tax Credit and housing assistance, and student loan 
forgiveness, is not what's causing prices to go up for 
consumers.
    And I actually think what I hear from my constituents in 
Minnesota is they're trying to figure out, like, why is it that 
I'm paying so much more at the same time that corporate profits 
are going up so much? I just had this question today, Mr. 
Chair, when I had my coffee with Tina, with Minnesota 
constituents. And one of my constituents was trying to 
understand why his insurance, his home insurance rates are 
going up so much.
    Now, let me ask you about this: I want to actually hone in 
on auto insurance, which has been emerging as a huge driver in 
rising prices. In Minnesota, car insurance rates have gone up 
35 percent, more than 35 percent, between 2022 and 2023. Now, 
some of that, of course, can be attributed to rising costs of 
car parts and other market forces, but there's also been a real 
reduction in coverage options and fewer choices for consumers. 
And consumers are getting squeezed here.
    So, can you talk about this a little bit? What are you 
seeing when it comes to rising car insurance rates? And to what 
do you attribute these increased costs? And let's be honest, 
another sector where there's a fair amount of concentration, as 
Senator Warren was discussing.
    Mr. Bustamante. Thank you, Senator.
    You're actually pointing at two main factors that are 
driving inflation and higher prices in the insurance industry, 
which is a key driver to inflation today.
    One is consolidation. There are just fewer insurance 
providers out there, and that has enabled them to collude and, 
ultimately, pass price hikes much greater than the actual cost 
to replace parts or replace cars.
    And then, the second factor, which has been this black box 
of pricing strategies that insurance companies ultimately 
employ, which enabled them to both engage in economic 
discrimination, where they're able to offer very similar 
customers vastly different prices just based on their personal 
characteristics--oftentimes, in ways that are not transparent, 
in ways that are ultimately driving prices much higher than 
they ought to be.
    Senator Smith. Competition and the free market works when 
there is good balance, when there is a shared power. So that 
consumers have power; businesses have power, and it allows 
consumers choice. And therefore, they are able to make the best 
choice and not be sort of constrained by only having one or two 
places where they can purchase something.
    And speaking of black boxes, Mr. Baydoun, I want to come to 
you next. We're seeing this huge affordability crisis in 
housing and in rents. I see this in my home State of Minnesota.
    And one of the things that I'm particularly concerned about 
is how algorithmic pricing is being used to allow ways for 
landlords to be able to use their market power to raise rents 
in ways that are just patently unfair. Could you talk about 
this? I'm particularly concerned about RealPage, a company that 
has reportedly used confidential data and algorithms to help 
landlords indirectly collude to set prices and even withhold 
supply in the market.
    Mr. Baydoun. That's right, Senator. And, you know, if a 
group of landlords controls most of the units in a 
neighborhood, and they all use the same algorithm to suggest 
prices, that algorithm can, effectively, drive up prices and 
facilitate collusion in the same way that a human could. And 
so, if these landlords were getting together at a barbeque and 
deciding to raise prices, they could come to the same sort of 
level of price hikes; the algorithm could come to the same 
level of price hikes that humans can.
    Senator Smith. That's right. And, I mean, that kind of 
collusion to raise prices across an industry sector, I mean, we 
don't allow that, right?
    Mr. Baydoun. No, it's illegal.
    Senator Smith. Right.
    Mr. Baydoun. And that's why I certainly applaud the Federal 
Trade Commission for applying antitrust law to these more 
modern scenarios and very effectively making the point that 
algorithms can facilitate collusion.
    Senator Smith. Yes, I agree with that. RealPage is now the 
subject of multiple investigations and lawsuits. And I wonder 
how long it will take before the next iteration of this 
strategy comes about and where we go from here.
    Do you have any advice for us? I appreciate you calling out 
the FTC, which I think has been doing an excellent job. But 
other advice for us, as we look at ways to put some guardrails 
around how this technology can lead to collusion?
    Mr. Baydoun. Absolutely.
    I would also call out junk fees in rental. I think that's 
something that's a new frontier and, increasingly, the cost of 
rent, the upfront cost that renters are seeing, is not the 
final cost they pay. And I think this body and other regulatory 
agencies really need to protect the basic guarantee that the 
price we see is the price we'll pay.
    Senator Smith. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chair Brown. Thanks, Senator Smith. Senator Britt from 
Alabama is recognized.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I appreciate all of you being here with us today. I would 
be the first one to say that I think we can all agree that any 
practices of deceptive price gouging or intentionally 
misleading of consumers, or elsewhere, are completely and 
totally unacceptable. But we already have laws in place to 
prevent and enforce against that.
    What we're here to discuss today is a separate matter. The 
fact is that businesses, just like families in Alabama and in 
Ohio, Mr. Chairman, all across our country, are having to 
rethink and adjust their spending patterns to adapt to the 
current economic circumstances--circumstances that are driven 
by persistent high inflation that we've experienced over the 
last 3 years. Those circumstances have wreaked havoc on 
businesses, especially the local Main Street establishments 
that make up the economic heartbeat of their communities and 
our Nation.
    Core material costs have risen since 2021 and overhead 
costs in things like utilities and, as you just mentioned, rent 
and interest have also gone up significantly. Plus, packaging 
costs for products are up 40 percent and domestic shipping 
costs are up over 20 percent since 2021. Businesses of all 
sizes are having to make changes in response to those increased 
costs just to stay afloat and serve their customers.
    However, rather than focusing on the root of the problem, I 
am, again, discouraged by the apparent lack of responsibility 
taken by the White House for the consequences of their own 
actions. Instead of changing policies, this Administration has 
chosen to change its messaging. It's engaged in an absurd 
attempt to blame-shift rather than to reverse course or to 
admit any fault.
    Across the board, Americans' finances are being decimated 
from this Administration's policies. Seventy-eight percent of 
Americans reported having to live paycheck to paycheck in 
2023--up 6 percent from the previous year. We've seen 
Americans' credit card debt surpass $1 trillion--the highest 
amount in history.
    We've seen families that have witnessed mortgage rates 
double--putting American dream of home ownership, which we know 
is something that so many people strive for, out of reach.
    Let me just read you a few data points upon the recent 
March 2024 Consumer Price Index Report that came out. Compared 
to January 2021, the average Alabama household is paying $918 
more per month to purchase the same basket of food and 
services. Spending is up $133 more per month when it comes to 
actually going to get something to eat. Spending is up $162 
more on shelter, and spending is up $249 more a month on 
transportation.
    I want to emphasize this: cumulatively, the average Alabama 
household has spent $20,297 more due to inflation since January 
of 2021. The biggest issue impacting consumers today is not 
that they have less Fritos in the bag; it's that they have less 
money in their pocket.
    You mentioned, Mrs. Schrager, in your testimony, you said, 
quote, ``History has shown that misguided diagnosis of a 
problem and then implementing this misguided policy will 
actually create more harm for American households.'' I fully 
agree with you.
    During the pandemic, we saw the Federal Reserve purchase 
trillions of dollars in Treasury securities, which initially 
contributed to inflation. But by the pandemic, you know, while 
it's long over, as you mentioned, monetary policy has become 
more restrictive.
    White House officials, then, routinely mischaracterized the 
high inflationary environment as ``transitory''--spurring the 
Administration to pass unprecedented levels of spending, when 
the economy simply wasn't ready.
    Ms. Schrager, in your testimony you also refer to a, quote, 
``loose fiscal policy,'' and with continued spending and 
Government subsidies toward things like clean energy programs 
and so-called ``loan forgiveness.'' Can you please discuss how 
this type of ``loose policy'' only worsens inflation?
    Ms. Schrager. Yes. So, it does in a couple of different 
ways.
    First of all, you know, we're just adding to demand. I 
mean, as you can see as well, we also have a very tight labor 
market, and a lot of these policies are supposed to be job-
creating. So, we're just adding more, even more competition to 
the labor market, which raises wages, which is also going to 
raise prices. And as I said, it's just putting more money in 
the economy, more money in people's pockets.
    But I think, also, there's more economic research and sort 
of a burgeoning consensus that just increasing the debt also 
increases inflation. Because people anticipate that, you know, 
eventually, this debt will have to be paid off, higher interest 
rates, and that also will increase inflation.
    Senator Britt. Absolutely. We have about 72 percent of our 
spending is mandatory spending and that continues to grow, and 
the debt at $34.5 trillion is just simply unacceptable.
    Ms. Schrager. Mm-hmm.
    Senator Britt. It's not only fiscally irresponsible; in my 
opinion, it is morally irresponsible.
    So, thank you so much.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Britt.
    Apparently, there's a couple of people who were going to 
come back, but I'm not sure they are.
    So, prior to closing, I thank you all, first of all. I 
always learn something at these hearings.
    In addition to the substance that each of you offered in 
the questions, the way you answered questions, I learned 
another thing, and that is, the different kinds of Fed studies 
there can be. Senator Scott mentioned what's called a FEDS 
Note. It's not a report like the report I mentioned from the 
Kansas City Fed. It's one economist putting something out as a 
FEDS Note, but really written by one economist. So, you don't 
have to plumb very deeply to find a lot of different 
conflicting voices and almost a cacophony--I have trouble 
saying that word--cacophony of voices and ideas.
    So, it's pretty clear that what the Fed said or the Boston 
Fed said about market consolidation, what the Kansas City Fed 
said about the contribution to inflation from corporate profits 
stands or are important. And I will just ask unanimous consent 
to put the Kansas City Fed study in the record.
    Thanks to the witnesses today for your testimony. Senators 
who wish to submit questions for the hearing record, those 
questions are due 1 week from today, my colleagues, May 9th.
    To the witnesses, each of the three of you, please submit 
your responses to questions for the record no more than 45 days 
from the day you receive them.
    Thanks for being here.
    The Committee is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:16 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
    [Prepared statements, responses to written questions, and 
additional material supplied for the record follow:]

               PREPARED STATEMENT OF CHAIR SHERROD BROWN
    Every time Ohioans go to the grocery store, they're paying for 
corporate stock buybacks and executive bonuses.
    Prices today are far too high, and families are having a harder 
time finding a fair price, seeing more of their paycheck vanish into 
thin air.
    I hear all the time from Ohioans who are justifiably angry that 
when they buy groceries and other basic essentials, they are paying 
more than they did a few years ago.
    All of this is happening while corporate profits hit record highs.
    Let's be clear: the fact that prices and corporate profits are 
going up at the same time is no coincidence.
    A study by the Kansas City Fed found that corporate profits drove 
half of the price increases in 2021. And profits are still high today.
    Now, of course I want businesses making money. I want American 
companies to be the most competitive and most profitable in the world.
    What I am against is corporate profiteering that funnels money from 
working people to executives in the form of massive bonuses and stock 
buybacks.
    I am against markets that don't foster competition and low prices.
    I am against market manipulation.
    A family walking into a restaurant or a store should not have to 
guess what they will be charged. Someone shopping online should not be 
paying more for the exact same product because of their online search 
history.
    Businesses should create new goods and services that Americans want 
to buy, at prices justified by the cost.
    And workers--who are critical for the success of any businesses--
should be paid fairly for helping the business succeed.
    Instead, the same Wall Street business model that has kept wages 
low and executive compensation high for decades is now pushing prices 
up too.
    Corporations used supply shocks from the pandemic and war in 
Ukraine as an excuse to raise prices, and they keep raising them.
    And let's be clear: they are not charging more because they're 
paying workers more. Wages are not causing prices hikes. Corporations 
are raising prices far beyond their input costs, and funneling the 
profits to executives, not workers--just like they always do.
    They've realized that when the market isn't free or fair, they can 
keep pushing prices up and up.
    And they are using tried and true techniques--and new technology to 
refine old ones--to charge these higher and higher prices and get away 
with it.
    When they're talking to their Wall Street investors, they admit 
what they're doing.
    On an investor earnings call, one CEO said, ``Consumers are 
tolerating [frequent price increases] well.''
    You hear that? Consumers are ``tolerating'' price increases.
    I'm here to tell CEOs that working families cannot tolerate unfair 
price increases.
    Price gouging isn't new, but it is getting easier to conceal.
    By now, we've all heard about what the media dubbed 
``shrinkflation,'' where corporations shrink their products but keep 
prices the same, or even raise them.
    The rolls of paper towels have fewer sheets, but they don't lower 
the price. The package of Oreos has fewer cookies in it, but the price 
stays the same.
    That trick isn't new--but it's getting worse. What's next--will 
they shrink the amount of cream in the cookies? Will double-stuffed 
become half-stuffed?
    Companies are also using advances in technology to find new methods 
of price gouging.
    They're now using new pricing strategies and data collection to 
charge people more.
    They call these tactics ``dynamic pricing'' and ``personalized 
pricing algorithms.''
    ``Dynamic pricing'' and ``personalized pricing.'' You know some 
corporate PR firm is really proud of those.
    Customers don't want their pricing personalized. They want it to be 
fair, transparent, and as low as possible.
    Gone are the days when Americans could simply expect to walk into a 
store having a clear idea of what they'd pay.
    It's not just the act of walking into a brick-and-mortar store 
that's nostalgic--it's the notion of predictable, transparent prices.
    With online retailers, the price can change every day or even 
within the hour, sometimes dramatically.
    And they're spreading the technique to brick-and-mortar stores, 
adding electronic menu boards to restaurants and digital price labels 
to shelves so that corporations can raise the price at a moment's 
notice.
    It's frustrating, and it makes impossible for people to compare 
prices and shop around--key ingredients in any fair, open market.
    Families with fixed budgets cannot afford to walk into the grocery 
store or pharmacy not knowing how far their paycheck will get them.
    Big Tech has exported their data-mining business model to 
retailers, and that has made all of this even easier for companies.
    As more people shop online, retailers learn more about our browsing 
and shopping habits by collecting every bit of our online data. They 
can charge you more based on your search history.
    You start shopping around to try to find the lowest price on a new 
washing machine. Now online retailers realize that you're in the market 
for appliances, and start showing you higher and higher prices.
    Spying on people and charging them more for the products they need 
isn't innovation--it's price gouging.
    Charging more for food during mealtime isn't the free market--it's 
exploitation.
    The story is always the same: Whether using old tricks or new 
technologies, corporations win, the rest of us lose.
    That's not how free markets are supposed to work.
    It's why standing up to corporate interests matters.
    And people hate Washington because too many politicians do 
corporations' bidding.
    It took us more than a decade of fighting the drug companies and 
their lobbyists and their allies in Congress to finally lower drug 
prices and to cap the cost of insulin at $35 a month for seniors.
    We need Members of Congress to grow spines and stand up to more of 
these corporate lobbyists. Senator Casey and I have a bill to crack 
down on companies shrinking their products and raising their prices, by 
directing the FTC to label this what it is--a deceptive practice.
    We need our colleagues to join us in efforts like this, to lower 
prices and stop these tactics that distort the market, stifle 
competition and make it harder for Americans to afford the cost of 
living.
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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR TIM SCOTT
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all for being here with us 
this morning.
    Listening to our Chairman, Democrats would have Americans believe 
that the economic pain they're feeling is caused by greedy corporations 
putting a few less chips in your chip bag.
    It couldn't be more clear where the obvious pain is coming from.
    The obvious pain is coming from a guy who lives at 1600 
Pennsylvania Avenue.
    The bottom line is that President Biden and Bidenomics has 
devastated our economy and devastated people working paycheck to 
paycheck. The highest percentage of Americans with the fewest dollars 
in their savings account for an emergency is now because of President 
Biden and Democrats' reckless spending.
    They like to name their bills in attractive ways but the bottom 
line is a really simple thing: they all add to inflation.
    Whether it's the ``American Rescue Plan'', the ``Bipartisan 
Infrastructure Act'', or the worst-named bill perhaps in American 
history, the ``Inflation Reduction Act''.
    Anyone who believes that inflation has gone down because of the 
Inflation Reduction Act--all you have to do is look at the latest 
information coming out of the Federal Reserve itself. Inflation 
continues to increase.
    These bills used to be hailed positively as a part of 
``Bidenomics,'' but now they're just economics because no one can 
afford President Biden's approach to solving the problems that we see 
in our Nation.
    And I know this to be true, because it doesn't matter whether I'm 
at home in South Carolina or any other State around the country, I keep 
hearing the same things from consumers:
    ``Rent is too high. I'll never be able to afford a mortgage.''
    ``I'm living paycheck to paycheck. My grocery bills are staggering, 
and I can barely afford them.''
    Or ``I spent my entire life working and building up enough savings 
to retire, but now I'm worried those savings won't go far enough and 
I'll have to go back to work.''
    Or ``I'm really worried about my finances and our economy.''
    And they always end with a simple question, ``What can you do to 
help me?''
    The number one concern besides the devastation that Americans are 
experiencing because of the unsafe, insecure, wide-open southern 
border, the number one concern outside of the border is the economy.
    Americans across the country point their fingers at the devastation 
of inflation.
    Inflation today is costing the average American family an 
additional $8,508, just to buy the same things they were able to buy 
before President Biden took office.
    It is truly unfortunate that the Biden administration continues to 
play a game of deflection--not taking responsibility, not solving the 
problem--but looking for someone else to blame other than the man in 
the mirror.
    First, the Biden administration told us that the challenges that we 
were seeing with inflation were ``transitory.'' I cannot tell you the 
number of hearings I sat through--whether it was Secretary Yellen or 
others--who said that this is transitory because of COVID.
    Well, then they changed the story that it was ``Putin's price 
hike'' because of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
    And then it was ``greedflation'' or ``shrinkflation'' when the fact 
of the matter is simply, Biden's inflation.
    Here's the truth: the Biden administration's spending policies has 
caused the inflation that we're seeing and the economic devastation it 
is producing. They are the key contributors to the price hikes we are 
all experiencing today.
    Let's take a step back to understand what inflation really feels 
like to the average American.
    Prices across the board have certainly increased nearly 20 percent 
since Biden took office. Yes, 20 percent increase in just over 3 years.
    For example, butter is up 27 percent, chicken 26 percent, white 
bread 30 percent.
    When you go to the pump, you don't have to believe what President 
Biden says about the challenges, all you have to do is see the price at 
the pump--40 percent increase. Energy costs, 25 percent increase.
    I could spend the rest of my time this morning discussing other 
examples of how much prices have increased, but the American people 
know all to well the challenges that they face and where it comes. 
That's why they trust him so little on the economy.
    It is crystal clear, they know what they see with their own eyes, 
yet instead of looking at ways we can bring inflation down, this 
Administration continues to look for scapegoats such as corporate 
America.
    Here's what The Federal Reserve recently studied that the 
Administration's--and that's the Federal Reserve--studied the 
Administration's claims that corporations are driving up inflation and 
came to the conclusion, and I'll just read it, ``unprecedented large 
and direct Government intervention,'' and ``accommodative monetary 
policy,'' profits were back to their prepandemic levels by the end of 
2022.
    With respect to ``shrinkflation,'' the Biden administration's own 
Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that its effects have 
resulted in a 0.01 percent average annual increase to prices, and ``has 
a very small impact on the overall inflation picture.''
    I know this is really uncomfortable for some of you to listen to 
it, that's just called the facts.
    What we should be talking about today is the direct harm this 
Administration's policies are causing as they continue to lead to more 
inflation.
    We should be talking about the inflation spike we are likely to see 
after billions and billions of dollars in student loans are illegally 
forgiven by this Administration.
    We should be talking about a Federal debt that is growing by 
trillions of dollars every single year.
    The American people are smart. They see through this blatant 
attempt by the Administration to blame others for the inevitable 
results of their policies.
    It's time for the Biden administration and their friends on the 
other side of the aisle to wake up and smell the coffee that now costs 
30 percent more.
    Out-of-control, reckless spending led to runaway inflation that has 
remained elevated for years now. We must all accept that fact and 
return to sound economic policies that make affording the basics just a 
bit easier for the American family.
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                  PREPARED STATEMENT OF BILAL BAYDOUN
       Director of Policy and Research, Groundwork Collaborative
                              May 2, 2024
    Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify today. My name is Bilal 
Baydoun, and I'm the Director of Policy and Research at the Groundwork 
Collaborative, an economic think tank based here in Washington.
    The price tag is a simple communications device we all take for 
granted. It's also an American innovation. John Wanamaker of 
Philadelphia, who invented the modern price tag, was a devout 
Presbyterian who believed that price discrimination--the idea that 
different people could pay different prices for the same product--was 
immoral. If everyone was equal before God, he believed, everyone ought 
to be equal before price. From the very beginning, the price tag was 
infused with a sense of fairness and equality.
    Yet in America today, a fair price, let alone a sweet deal, is 
harder and harder to come by. In the age of corporate concentration and 
high-powered algorithms, pricing is in the midst of a troubling 
transformation, and the price tag as we know it may become a relic of 
the past.
    Rideshare apps like Uber reportedly charge users higher prices if 
their phone battery is lower. Insurance companies fly drones above our 
property in search of signs of clutter, and car companies install 
software that reports our driving behavior to insurance companies, who 
use the data to hike our rates. Amazon reportedly changes prices 
millions of times per day, running secret pricing experiments like 
``Project Nessie'' that reaped $1 billion in revenue. Frustratingly, 
food delivery apps like UberEats show us one menu price up front, only 
to tack on a series of mysterious junk fees right as we're about to 
pay, and these last-second markups can be as high as 95 percent. Even a 
family outing to the bowling alley means encountering ``surge 
pricing,'' in which we're charged more for the sin of seeking out 
family fun on a Saturday night, the only available time for such 
outings for many families.
    At every turn, companies are cutting corners on the path to record 
profits, and American consumers are paying the price. In a practice 
known as ``shrinkflation,'' companies discreetly reduce the size or 
volume of common household items--everything from jars of peanut butter 
to bars of soaps--to charge consumers more for less. For some essential 
goods like household paper towels, shrinkflation accounted for roughly 
10 percent of the price increase consumers experienced over the last 4 
years. Indeed, big profits increasingly come in smaller packages.
    While price hikes aren't new, today's companies have reinvented 
them, relying on surveillance, deception, and even high-tech forms of 
collusion to wring as much as possible out of American consumers. All 
of these tactics converge on a single goal: find out the maximum price 
each individual consumer can be charged at any given time.
    It might seem counterintuitive that companies are reaping record 
profits by simply hiking prices. After all, in competitive markets, 
firms have to innovate, improve their products and services, and take 
calculated risks to win over consumers. But a perfect storm in our 
economy made it much easier for companies to simply price their way to 
profitability.
    First, companies got bigger, and competition in many industries has 
dwindled. Over the last few decades, we've seen runaway corporate 
consolidation across our economy. About three-quarters of domestic 
industries have become more concentrated and are dominated by fewer 
players than they were 20 years ago. This grants the remaining 
corporate giants the freedom to hike prices without fear of being 
undercut by the competition. In many markets, there simply is none.
    Second, pricing went high tech. Technological advances such as 
cloud computing, artificial intelligence, and surveillance targeting 
have enabled companies to collect reams of personal information on 
consumers and change prices in under a nanosecond. These technologies 
help companies build profiles of individual consumers that include 
things like our age, marital status, estimated salary, ethnicity, the 
magazines we read, and even the kinds of topics we talk about online. 
All of these private aspects of our lives can be used to determine how 
much price hiking each of us can tolerate.
    Finally, market power and technological advances came together in 
the shadow of inflation, giving companies the cover they needed to 
begin rolling out pricing strategies they'd previously thought of as 
risky precisely because consumers dislike them. But with prices rising 
everywhere, consumers couldn't discern which hikes were justified by 
companies' own rising costs, and which were truly excessive. As the 
head of research for Barclay's bank told Bloomberg in 2022, ``The 
longer inflation lasts and the more widespread it is, the more air 
cover it gives companies to raise prices.'' Visa's CEO was still more 
direct, saying, ``historically, inflation has been positive for us.''
    The complex algorithms often entrusted with maximizing profits 
through rapid changes in pricing have neither a conscience nor legal 
training. That is why algorithmic pricing can be both discriminatory 
and collusive. If you are charged a higher price for shopping at a 
chain store in your zip code, for example, that can function as a proxy 
for racial price discrimination. And when different firms in the same 
industry rely on a shared algorithm to set prices, that algorithm can 
fix prices just as a human agent can. We saw this play out in the 
rental market. In one neighborhood in Seattle, 70 percent of apartments 
were overseen by just 10 property managers, and all of them relied on 
the same pricing software sold by RealPage.
    But we don't have to accept the end of a fair price as inevitable. 
To start, we must continue to enforce existing laws outlawing 
collusion, price fixing, and unfair and deceptive practices. The 
Federal Trade Commission and State attorneys general have doubled down 
on the idea that algorithmic collusion is no more acceptable than 
collusion conducted by human agents in a smoke-filled back room.
    But new laws are also necessary to ensure regulations keep pace 
with these rapidly changing tactics. The Price Gouging Prevention Act 
introduced in this chamber would enable the FTC to implement and 
enforce a Federal anti-price gouging statute, saving consumers money in 
the 13 States that don't have price-gouging protections on the books. 
Likewise, the Shrinkflation Prevention Act would classify shrinkflation 
as a deceptive practice and empower the FTC and attorneys general to 
take civil action to protect consumers' pocketbooks.
    We must also continue to make progress on eliminating junk fees and 
regulating complex pricing structures that push hidden fees on 
consumers. The CFPB's late fees rule demonstrates that policymakers 
can--and must--take on predatory, deceptive behavior and act as a 
strong check on corporate power. By capping late fees at $8, the CFPB 
will save American families more than $10 billion annually. The 
interagency approach taken by the President's Strike Force on Unfair 
and Illegal Pricing with the Department of Justice and FTC represents a 
key step in tackling predatory pricing by deploying every available 
tool.
    Finally, we can't allow companies to harvest our data and use it to 
price discriminate against us. CFPB Director Chopra noted recently that 
payments data (e.g., Venmo) is the ``holy grail'' of personal pricing. 
Allowing companies access to transaction data will open up a new 
frontier for exerting power over consumers. Protecting data privacy, 
including transactions data, is essential to confronting this new 
pricing regime and ensuring companies cannot surveil consumers as a 
means of pushing arbitrary price hikes based on unfair calculations of 
consumers' ``willingness to pay.''
    Through these actions and others, we have the tools to restore a 
fair price in America--we just have to use them. Thank you, and I look 
forward to your questions.
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                 PREPARED STATEMENT OF ALLISON SCHRAGER
                   Senior Fellow, Manhattan Institute
                              May 2, 2024
    Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, Members of the Committee: 
thank you for the invitation to discuss with you today how price 
increases, shrinkflation, and technology may be harming consumers. I am 
a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, where I research fiscal and 
monetary policy and financial markets. I am also a columnist at 
Bloomberg Opinion.
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    The high inflation environment we are in is a terrible economic 
burden for American households--especially those living paycheck to 
paycheck, who are struggling to afford groceries, let alone enjoy the 
occasional meal out with their family. It has also proven more 
persistent than policymakers hoped. It is tempting to blame whoever 
raised the prices we see, the firms we buy goods and services from, who 
appear to be getting rich from our rising bills. But they are not at 
fault; they are merely reacting to the realities of the high and 
uncertain environment we are all facing.
    Firms can increase prices several ways: they can simply increase 
the prices we all see--the sticker price, they can reduce volume of 
what we buy but still charge the same price-shrinkflation, or they can 
practice dynamic pricing--charging only some customers a higher price. 
All of these feel unfair to many consumers. But it is the high 
inflation environment that's harming consumers, not how firms respond 
to it.
    In order to bring inflation down, we need to understand it, how it 
started, and why it persists. History has shown that misdiagnosing the 
problem and then implementing misguided policies will create more harm 
for American households.
    Inflation accelerated coming out of the pandemic, when the economy 
faced constrained supply, from pandemic related shortages, and high 
demand, the result of people emerging back into the economy after being 
at home with nowhere to spend money, and extremely accommodative fiscal 
and monetary policy. Some of that policy could be justified at the 
height of the pandemic, and it was a lifeline for many Americans who 
were unable to work. But the expansionary policy was too large and went 
on for far too long and ultimately contributed to inflation. Economists 
estimate expansionary fiscal policy contributed as much as 4 percentage 
points of our excess inflation. Today inflation is lower, down to about 
3 to 3.5 percent from the high of 8.6 percent.
    The fact that inflation is still high in the service sector--and 
wage growth is more than 4 percent--suggests that it may stick around 
for the foreseeable future. In short, the supply constraints have 
largely been resolved, but demand remains elevated, and the higher 
inflation has permeated into our economy. Our current fiscal policy 
stance is not helping. While monetary policy has become more 
restrictive, fiscal policy remains very loose, with continued 
infrastructure spending, subsidies to industries such as chip 
manufacturing, clean energy, and student loan forgiveness. This loose 
policy worsens inflation by adding more demand to the economy and 
adding further to the debt.
Greedflation
    Inflation cannot be blamed on greedy corporations. First, there is 
no reason to think corporations have suddenly become greedy. It is 
natural to increase prices when facing a period of high demand. This 
can feel unfair sometimes, but it is an important part of market 
functioning.
    Take the example of an umbrella salesman in the rain. It may feel 
unfair that he increases his price when it rains, but if he didn't 
increase prices when it started to sprinkle, there would be no 
umbrellas left when there is a downpour. Or, if he can't make more 
money in the rain--why would he bother selling umbrellas and sitting in 
the rain himself?
    We see a similar story playing out in other markets today. Prices 
are increasing because demand is still high: consumer spending is still 
up, there is a vigorous labor market, and GDP is growing. And prices 
tend to rise more when demand is high. This price adjustment is how the 
market rations goods.
    It is true that there was an increase in corporate profits in 2021 
when inflation first spiked. But profits peaked in 2022 and have 
decreased and leveled off since then.
    One way to understand what happened is that, initially, firms 
raised prices in response to increased demand and limited supply, just 
like the umbrella salesman. They did so because:

  1.  The high demand environment pushed prices up, and consumers were 
        willing to pay more because there was more money in their 
        pockets coming out of the pandemic.

  2.  Firms rightly anticipated a higher inflation environment that 
        would also increase the costs of their inputs, including labor, 
        and they needed to increase prices to stay in business.

    This is why profits initially increased. At first their costs of 
inputs did not go up as much as prices because many firms had 
previously locked in wage and input costs. But as inflation continued, 
firms renegotiated those contracts and gave their workers wage 
increases, which eroded profit margins.
Shrinkflation
    In addition to higher prices, many consumers are getting less for 
their money--for example: fewer potato chips in a bag. This so-called 
shrinkflation is just another way for firms to increase prices. This 
isn't a driver of inflation--it a manifestation of it.
    Rather than increase the price consumers pay, they might shrink the 
size of their product instead. Again, this can be extremely frustrating 
for consumers because they are getting less and paying more. But it is 
another way for firms to deal with price pressures from increased 
demand. The alternative is to simply increase prices, but whether one 
approach is better than the other is hard to say. Charging more may 
price consumers out of the market entirely.
Dynamic Pricing
    Another way that firms can respond is not increasing prices for 
everyone, but only for consumers who use goods or services in high 
demand times or are willing to pay more. This is known as dynamic 
pricing--and it is another frustration for many consumers.
    Wendy's recently attempted this when they floated the idea of 
charging more during peak times. Technology is aiding this effort 
because firms can collect data on potential customers and gain insight 
into their willingness and ability to pay.
    An example of dynamic pricing that predates our current inflation 
era is airlines. They charge more for peak time flights or by charging 
for services that were once included in the quoted airfare, such as 
checking a bag or picking your seat. This is another way of passing on 
higher costs to some customers. This is especially attractive for 
airlines who face pricing pressure to keep fares low because of 
technology that enables consumers to comparison shop.
    Believe it or not, dynamic pricing can be better from a consumer 
welfare point of view than increasing prices for everyone. For example, 
airlines may price discriminate, but the cost of flying has fallen and 
it has become more accessible. In the 1980s, about 30 percent of 
Americans had flown in the last year; now it is more like 50 percent--
in large part because lower income Americans have a cheaper option, 
even if it means worse service.
    The same is true for Wendy's, who can either increase prices for 
everyone in response to higher input costs or can increase them only 
for customers who value convenience more and thus put a higher premium 
on eating at peak times. The result is more people can go to Wendy's, 
because a price increase for everyone excludes more people from the 
market. It may feel unfair, but economists generally agree that 
including more people in a market is beneficial for consumers.
    We can probably expect more firms to dynamically price in the 
future. Technology empowers firms to target individuals, to show them 
ads for the goods they want and charge them more than other consumers. 
Artificial Intelligence has the potential to turbo charge this 
practice, in the not-too-distant future we may all see different goods 
and prices when we shop online.
    But while technology can make dynamic pricing easier for firms, it 
also can empower consumers. Algorithms can help customers find products 
they most want and best suit their needs. Technology also facilitates 
comparison shopping and allows consumers to post reviews, a very 
valuable resource for future shoppers. Online marketplaces may mean 
more complex pricing, but they also enable more price comparison for 
consumers, compared to visiting a brick-and-mortar store. Research 
suggests that this technology contributed to the low inflation 
environment before the pandemic.
    It feels unfair, because it is different to what consumers have 
become used to--though everyone paid different prices when people 
haggled for goods. But a more personalized shopping experience may end 
up creating a more inclusive marketplace where more people can afford 
to participate and it is easier to find the goods and services that 
best suit their needs.
Conclusion
    We remain in a high inflation environment; this is what is harming 
consumers--not greedy corporations who also face pricing pressures. 
This is largely the result of a still growing economy, and it is made 
worse by Government policies that continue to stoke demand. We are 
still increasing the debt and giving households handouts. One benefit 
of this environment has been rising nominal wages (something many of us 
wanted), especially for lower earning Americans. But it also means 
inflation is still high--and it means rising costs for goods and 
services for these same people and the rest of the population.
    There is no way around the fact that this elevated demand will 
increase prices. Firms can increase prices in in a number of ways: 
increasing the sticker price, providing less for the same price, or 
dynamic pricing. All provide understandable frustration for consumers, 
but these are the results of a high and uncertain inflation 
environment--not the cause.
    Past attempts to keep companies from raising prices, such as price 
controls, have proved counterproductive. They create shortages, reduce 
the incentives to sell or produce, and worsen inflation. The best way 
to fix this is to not undermine the Fed's attempts to control inflation 
and pull back on spending, stop handouts, especially to higher earners 
who don't need them, and to reduce the debt.
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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF ALI R. BUSTAMANTE
    Professor of Practice, University of New Orleans Department of 
Economics and Finance, and Director, Worker Power and Economic Security 
                      Program, Roosevelt Institute
                              May 2, 2024
    Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, and Honorable Members of the 
Committee, thank you for inviting me to speak on the pressing issues 
surrounding how corporate pricing strategies are impacting prices, and 
their implications for consumer finances.
    In my testimony I will make three points:

  1.  Inflation is being driven, in part, by corporate profiteering 
        related to firms' price-setting power.

  2.  Corporate profiteering is harming consumers, workers, and other 
        businesses.

  3.  Government has tools that can restrict corporate profiteering and 
        protect consumers and small businesses.

    First, there is evidence that large corporations are engaging in 
pricing strategies that are contributing to elevated prices. Research 
conducted by my colleagues and I at the Roosevelt Institute has found 
that a recent sharp rise in markups by large corporations is 
contributing to inflation. \1\ Markups are the difference between the 
prices consumers pay for goods or services and how much it costs to 
make or provide them. Markups are low in competitive markets but as 
corporations have accumulated significant market power over the years, 
they have been able to increase prices without sacrificing profit. Our 
research finds average markups grew from 48 percent above cost in 2014 
to 69 percent above cost in 2023 and that this growth is being driven 
by a few large corporations. \2\
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     \1\ Konczal, Mike, and Niko Lusiani. 2022. ``Prices, Profits, and 
Power: An Analysis of 2021 Firm-Level Markups''. Roosevelt Institute, 
June 21, 2022. https://rooseveltinstitute.org/publications/prices-
profits-and-power/
     \2\ Bustamante, Ali R., and Ira Regmi. 2024. ``Fast-Food Industry 
Profiteering: Why California Businesses Can Absorb a Higher Minimum 
Wage''. Roosevelt Institute, March 28, 2024. https://
rooseveltinstitute.org/publications/fast-food-industry-profiteering/
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    For consumers, markups can take several forms through various 
pricing strategies employed by corporations:

    Standard Retail Markup: This is the most straightforward 
        markup, where sellers add a percentage to the cost of goods and 
        services to generate profit.

    Shrinkflation: Reducing the quantity or size of a product 
        while maintaining or increasing the price.

    Dynamic Pricing: A method of price discrimination whereby 
        prices adjust in real-time using pricing algorithms and 
        sophisticated consumer data, often with new artificial 
        intelligence (AI) methods.

    Decoy Pricing: Pricing structures where firms introduce a 
        third, less attractive option to lead consumers to choose a 
        more expensive option than they originally might have.

    Bundling: Bundling products together to sell them at a 
        price that seems to offer a savings compared to buying each 
        item individually but that often includes a markup.

    Markups, and the sophisticated pricing strategies that are driving 
them, are on the rise because of large corporations' outsized pricing 
power. Research finds that smaller firms in less consolidated 
industries have not driven explosive markup growth. \3\
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     \3\ De Loecker, Jan, Jan Eeckhout, and Gabriel Unger. 2020. ``The 
Rise of Market Power and the Macroeconomic Implications''. The 
Quarterly Journal of Economics 135 (2):561-644.
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    Take the fast-food industry for example: my recent research of 
markups finds that the average markup in the fast-food industry grew by 
14.7 percent during the past decade. \4\ When analyzing markups at the 
10 largest fast-food firms in 2023 we found that they were the highest 
at Wendy's, McDonald's, and Restaurant Brands International (the parent 
company of Burger King and Popeyes). At these firms, prices were 
between 80 and 91 percent above companies' marginal costs. These large 
companies are charging consumers above and beyond what is necessary for 
typical profit margins.
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     \4\ Bustamante, Ali R., and Ira Regmi. 2024. ``Fast-Food Industry 
Profiteering: Why California Businesses Can Absorb a Higher Minimum 
Wage''. Roosevelt Institute, March 28, 2024. https://
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    Second, there is ample evidence that markups--and corporate 
profiteering in general--by large corporations are harming consumers, 
workers, and small businesses.
    Consumer surplus, how economists measure the social economic 
benefits of consumption, would have been 14 percent higher in 2019 if 
markups had remained stable at 2006 levels, and 50 percent higher if 
firms passed along the reductions in their costs over that period to 
consumers. \5\ This hits low-income consumers the hardest, as their 
disposable income is stretched even thinner, forcing them to make 
difficult decisions about the basic necessities and bills they need to 
cover.
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     \5\ Dopper, Hendrik, Alexander MacKay, Nathan Miller, and Joel 
Stiebale. 2022. ``Rising Markups and the Role of Consumer 
Preferences''. 3939126. Rochester, NY: Social Science Research Network.
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    Workers are also being squeezed: research shows that increases in 
markups lead to a decline in wages of approximately 12 percent, because 
markups lead to a reduction in the aggregate demand for labor. \6\ The 
harmful effect of markups on workers is also visible in the declining 
share of income going to workers. \7\ Rather than rewarding workers who 
drive productivity in the first place, these large corporations driving 
growth in markups are the same ones returning higher profits from 
markups to wealthy shareholders via stock buybacks and dividends. \8\
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     \6\ Deb, Shubhdeep, Jan Eeckhout, Aseem Patel, and Lawrence 
Warren. 2022. ``Market Power and Wage Inequality''. Institute for 
Fiscal Studies, Working paper 22/40. https://ifs.org.uk/publications/
market-power-and-wage-inequality
     \7\ Autor, David, David Dorn, Lawrence F. Katz, Christina 
Patterson, and John Van Reenen. 2020. ``The Fall of the Labor Share and 
the Rise of Superstar Firms''. The Quarterly Journal of Economics 135 
(2):645-709.
     \8\ Palladino, Lenore, and William Lazonick. 2021. ``Regulating 
Stock Buybacks: The $6.3 Trillion Question''. Roosevelt Institute, 
Working paper, May 10, 2021. https://rooseveltinstitute.org/
publications/regulating-stock-buybacks-the-6-3-trillion-question/
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    Furthermore, markups reflect a ``winner takes most'' economic 
environment where large corporations with price-setting power also have 
the capability to reduce competition by creating barriers for new firms 
to enter the market, crowd out smaller firms, and squeeze supplier 
margins in order to protect and expand their market share. \9\
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     \9\ Autor, David, David Dorn, Lawrence F. Katz, Christina 
Patterson, and John Van Reenen. 2020. ``The Fall of the Labor Share and 
the Rise of Superstar Firms''. The Quarterly Journal of Economics 135 
(2):645-709.
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    Lastly, I'd like to discuss the myriad of available Government 
tools that can restrict corporate profiteering and protect consumers, 
workers, and small businesses:

    We need to enforce and strengthen antitrust laws to prevent 
        monopolistic practices and ensure competitive markets, 
        particularly in industries where a few companies control 
        significant market share, leading to higher markups.

    Policymakers can move to create guidelines and restrictions 
        around the use of dynamic and personalized pricing to prevent 
        unfair and deceptive practices by requiring businesses to fully 
        disclose the pricing structure of their products and services. 
        This would disincentivize corporations from employing these 
        predatory pricing practices.

    To improve fairness and transparency in pricing, 
        administrative agencies like the Consumer Financial Protection 
        Bureau can mandate clearer disclosure of pricing components and 
        service fees and enforce rules against deceptive pricing 
        practices or hidden fees. This is particularly impactful in 
        sectors prone to high markups, such as financial services and 
        health care.

    There are great economic benefits to be gained by reining in 
markups and unfair corporate pricing strategies, including lower prices 
in the short term and a more competitive economic environment for 
businesses and workers in the medium and long term. Yet, inaction from 
both regulators and legislators will enable corporate profiteering that 
continues to elevate prices, harm consumers, and squeeze small 
businesses. 

         RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF CHAIR BROWN
                       FROM BILAL BAYDOUN

Q.1. One thing shrinkflation and pricing technologies have in 
common is that it's difficult or impossible for consumers to 
know how these pricing mechanisms are being used to adjust the 
prices of the goods and services they're buying.
    What sorts of disclosures are needed to let consumers and 
researchers understand how prices are changing?

A.1. Regarding shrinkflation, one approach may involve product 
labels that notify consumers of a change in a product's per-
unit price. In France, for example, products that have been 
reduced in size without a commensurate decrease in price will 
require product labels to disclose the change. \1\ Stores must 
comply with this change by July 1st of this year. France also 
empowers consumers to report such product changes to 
authorities via a consumer protection phone application.
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     \1\ https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/19/business/france-economy-
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    As discussed in this hearing, companies have also deployed 
personalized pricing practices, which involves tying price to 
individual consumers' characteristics. There could be three 
general approaches to disclosures related to this practice. \2\ 
The first is to require disclosure that the price is 
personalized. The second is to require disclosure of how the 
price is personalized, i.e., according to which consumer 
characteristics or behaviors. Third, regulators can require 
disclosure of how the personalized price compares to the 
``regular'' price.
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    Technologies have also been used to stagger certain fees 
throughout the process of making a purchase, a practice known 
as ``drip pricing.'' The classic case-in-point here is for-
profit tax-filing services, which have in the past advertised 
free or discounted services, only to add additional fees as the 
consumer is filling out the required forms. The most effective 
solution on this front would be the establishment of a national 
standard for price display that requires disclosure of the 
total cost up front, inclusive of all fees. Lawmakers have 
pushed for this approach to improve hotel cost transparency, 
\3\ as the short-term lodging industry is notorious for the 
practice of drip pricing and junk fees.
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         RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF CHAIR BROWN
                     FROM ALI R. BUSTAMANTE

Q.1. Since the onset of rising inflation, corporate profits 
have reached record highs, surpassing levels last seen in 1947. 
\1\ As noted in your testimony--``average profit markups grew 
from 48 percent above cost in 2014 to 69 percent above cost in 
2023.'' \2\ Your analysis also finds that ``increases in 
markups lead to a decline in wages of approximately 12 percent, 
because markups lead to a reduction in the aggregate demand for 
labor.'' \3\
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     \1\ Sellers' Inflation, Profits and Conflict: Why Can Large Firms 
Hike Prices in an Emergency? Isabella M. Weber and Evan Wasner 
(February 2023). Economics Department Working Paper Vol. 343. https://
scholarworks.umass.edu/econ-workingpaper/343/
     \2\ United States Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban 
Affairs Hearing on ``Higher Prices: How Shrinkflation and Technology 
are Hurting Consumers' Finances''. May 2, 2024. Testimony of Dr. Ali R. 
Bustamante
     \3\ Ibid.
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    Can you further elaborate on how workers have been faring 
in the current macroeconomic condition? Additionally, can you 
contrast to how CEOs have been faring?

A.1. Response not received in time for publication.

Q.2. One thing shrinkflation and pricing technologies have in 
common is that it's difficult or impossible for consumers to 
know how these pricing mechanisms are being used to adjust the 
prices of the goods and services they're buying.
    What sorts of disclosures are needed to let consumers and 
researchers understand how prices are changing?

A.2. Response not received in time for publication. 

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               RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF
          SENATOR CORTEZ MASTO FROM ALI R. BUSTAMANTE

Q.1. I introduced the Fair and Transparent Gas Prices Act of 
2023 (S. 67) to investigate unfair practices, provide market 
transparency, and prevent price gouging in the oil and gas 
industry. Specifically, the bill requires the Federal Trade 
Commission (FTC) to investigate anticompetitive, collusive, or 
other conduct related to oil and gas companies and markets.
    How would an investigation into the anticompetitive, 
collusive, or other conduct related to oil and gas companies 
provide more insight into rising gas prices?
    Can higher gas prices partially be attributed to 
anticompetitive practices in the oil and gas industry?

A.1. Response not received in time for publication.

Q.2. In S. 67, the bill directs the FTC to work with State 
attorneys general to carry out this investigation into the oil 
and gas industry.
    Why is it important to coordinate and empower state 
attorneys general offices to combat unfair and deceptive 
pricing practices?

A.2. Response not received in time for publication.

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