[Senate Hearing 118-625, Part 1]
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                                              S. Hrg. 118-625, Pt. 1

                    DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION 
                   REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL 
                   YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE 
                   PROGRAM

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                                HEARINGS

                               BEFORE THE

                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                                   ON

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     TO AUTHORIZE APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 FOR MILITARY 
ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE, FOR MILITARY CONSTRUCTION, AND 
   FOR DEFENSE ACTIVITIES OF THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY, TO PRESCRIBE 
   MILITARY PERSONNEL STRENGTHS FOR SUCH FISCAL YEAR, AND FOR OTHER 
                                PURPOSES

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                                 PART 1

         U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND AND U.S. CYBER COMMAND

             U.S. STRATEGIC COMMAND AND U.S. SPACE COMMAND

              U.S. CENTRAL COMMAND AND U.S. AFRICA COMMAND

            U.S. NORTHERN COMMAND AND U.S. SOUTHERN COMMAND

                  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BUDGET REQUEST

                              ARMY POSTURE

                              NAVY POSTURE

            U.S. INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND AND U.S. FORCES KOREA

THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATIONON 
                    ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

UNITED STATES EUROPEAN COMMAND AND UNITED STATES TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

                           AIR FORCE POSTURE

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                      COMMITTEE ON ARMED SERVICES

                    JACK REED, Rhode Island, Chairman	
 	
 JEANNE SHAHEEN, New Hampshire		ROGER F. WICKER, Mississippi
 KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York	DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
 RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut	TOM COTTON, Arkansas
 MAZIE K. HIRONO, Hawaii		MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
 TIM KAINE, Virginia			JONI ERNST, Iowa
 ANGUS S. KING, Jr., Maine		DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
 ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts	KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
 GARY C. PETERS, Michigan		RICK SCOTT, Florida
 JOE MANCHIN III, West Virginia		TOMMY TUBERVILLE, Alabama
 TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois		MARKWAYNE MULLIN, Oklahoma
 JACKY ROSEN, Nevada			TED BUDD, North Carolina
 MARK KELLY, Arizona                  	ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri                                    
                                   
                                      
 		    Elizabeth L. King, Staff Director
   		John P. Keast, Minority Staff Director


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                         C O N T E N T S

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                             march 7, 2023

                                                                   Page

U.S. Special Operations Command and U.S. Cyber Command Posture...     1

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................     1

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................     3

                           Witness Statements

Maier, The Honorable Christopher, Assistant Secretary of Defense      4
  for Special Operations and Low-intensity Conflict.

Fenton, General Bryan, United States Special Operations Command..     6

Nakasone, General Paul, Commander United States Cyber Command/       19
  Director, National Security Agency/Chief, Central Security 
  Service.

Questions for the Record.........................................    62

                             march 9, 2023

U.S. Strategic Command and U.S. Space Command....................    77

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................    77

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................    79

                           Witness Statements

Cotton, General Anthony J., USAF Commander, United States            80
  Strategic 
  Command.

Dickinson, General James H., USA Commander, United States Space      91
  Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   136

                             march 16, 2023

U.S. Central Command and U.S. Africa Command.....................   149

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   149

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   151

                           Witness Statements

Kurilla, General Michael E., USA Commander, United States Central   152

  Command.

Langley, General Michael E., USMC Commander, United States Africa   163

  Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   207

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                             march 23, 2023

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U.S. Northern Command and U.S. Southern Command..................   243

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   243

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   249

                           Witness Statements

VanHerck, General Glen D., USAF, Commander, United States           250
  Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense Command.

Richardson, General Laura J., USA, Commander, United States         260
  Southern Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................   313

                             march 28, 2023

The Department of Defense Budget Request.........................   347

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   347

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   353

                           Witness Statements

Austin, The Honorable Lloyd J., III, Secretary of Defense........   355

Milley, General Mark A., Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff...   366

Questions for the Record.........................................   439

                             march 30, 2023

Army Posture.....................................................   465

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   465

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   467

                           Witness Statements

Wormuth, The Honorable Christine E., Secretary of the Army.......   469

McConville, General James C., USA, Chief of Staff of the Army....   471

Questions for the Record.........................................   521

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                             april 18, 2023

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Navy Posture.....................................................   541

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   541

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   543

                           Witness Statements

Del Toro, The Honorable Carlos, Secretary of the Navy............   545

Gilday, Admiral Michael M., USN, Chief of Naval Operations.......   558

Berger, General David H., USMC, Commandant of the Marine Corps...   573

Questions for the Record.........................................   645

                             april 20, 2023

U.S. Indo-Pacific Command and U.S. Forces Korea..................   767

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   767

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   769

                           Witness Statements

Aquilino, Admiral John C., USN, Commander, United States Indo-      770
  Pacific Command.

LaCamera, General Paul J., USA, Commander, United Nations Command   790
  / Combined Forces Command / United States Forces Korea.

Questions for the Record.........................................   824

                             april 26, 2023

The Department of Energy and National Nuclear Security              887
  Administrationon Atomic Energy Defense Activities.

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   887

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................   889

                           Witness Statements

Granholm, The Honorable Jennifer M., Secretary of Energy,           892
  Department of Energy.

Hruby, The Honorable Jill M., Administrator, National Nuclear       893
  Security Administration.

Questions for the Record.........................................   945

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                            april 27, 2023

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United States European Command and United States Transportation     953
  Command.

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................   953

Prepared Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker....................   955

                           Witness Statements

Cavoli, General Christopher, USA Commander, United States           956
  European Command/ North Atlantic Treaty Organization Supreme 
  Allied Commander Europe.

Van Ovost, General Jacqueline D., USAF Commander, United States     967
  Transportation Command.

Questions for the Record.........................................  1012

                              may 2, 2023

Air Force Posture................................................  1035

                           Member Statements

Statement of Senator Jack Reed...................................  1035

Statement of Senator Roger F. Wicker.............................  1037

                           Witness Statements

Kendall, The Honorable Frank, III, Secretary of the Air Force....  1038

Brown, General Charles Q., Jr. USAF Chief of Staff of the Air      1040
  Force.

Saltzman, General B. Chance, USSF Chief of Space Operations......  1041

Questions for the Record.........................................  1104

Appendix
Attachment 1 - General Charles Q. Brown..........................  1145

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  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                         TUESDAY, MARCH 7, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

   UNITED STATES SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND AND UNITED STATES CYBER 
                                COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:31 a.m., in 
room G-50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, Budd, and 
Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call this hearing to order. 
Good morning. The Committee meets today to receive an update on 
the readiness and posture of U.S. Special Operations Command 
(SOCOM) and U.S. Cyber Command.
    Our witnesses are Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Special Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (LIC), 
Christopher Maier, Commander of U.S. Special Operations 
Command, General Bryan Fenton, and Commander of U.S. Cyber 
Command and Director of the National Security Agency, General 
Paul Nakasone.
    On behalf of the Committee, I would ask our witness to 
convey our appreciation to the men and women you represent and 
their families for their service and professionalism. We live 
in a complex and dangerous global security environment. From 
Russia's aggression in Europe to China's malign influence in 
the Indo-Pacific, to persistent threats from Iran, North Korea, 
and violent extremist groups, prevailing in this environment 
will require the tailored and often clandestine capabilities 
that only our special operations and cyber forces can provide.
    The United States has been reducing its footprint in 
conflict zones around the world. As such, the special 
operations community is at an inflection point, but is no less 
relevant to the future challenges we face. As the Defense 
Department's recently released Joint Concept for Competing 
makes clear, the object of our Nation's adversaries is to win 
without fighting.
    The Concept warns that if we do not adapt to the realities 
of long-term competition, the United States risks ceding 
strategic influence, advantage, and leverage, while preparing 
for a war that never occurs.
    The skills, knowledge, or perhaps most importantly, the 
relationships with foreign partners that our special operations 
forces have developed over the past 20 years of combat make 
them well-positioned to contribute significantly to the 
strategic competition. Assistant Secretary Maier and General 
Fenton, I look forward to an update regarding your efforts to 
focus and prepare our special operations forces (SOF) for the 
challenges ahead.
    In particular, I would ask that you discuss the 
capabilities we need to build an enduring advantage over our 
competitors, and what lessons can be drawn from the ongoing 
conflict in Ukraine. As part of this, I would like to know how 
you are shaping the force of the future through new recruiting 
and retention efforts, including building a culture of 
accountability.
    A number of high-profile misconduct cases have reflected 
poorly on the special operations community and additional 
efforts to buildupon SOCOM's [Special Operations Command's] 
2020 Comprehensive Review of Culture and Ethics, seems 
necessary. I also want to hear how you are addressing the 
unique challenges faced by special operations family.
    The Office of the ASD [Assistant Secretary of Defense] SO/
LIC plays a critical role in the oversight of and advocacy for 
our special operations forces, as the service secretary-like 
civilian for SOCOM. I believe more must be done to assure ASD 
SO/LIC is provided the necessary authority and resources, 
including manpower, to fulfill these responsibilities. I look 
forward to hearing more about the Department's efforts on this 
front.
    Turning to Cyber Command, I would like to commend our cyber 
forces and the intelligence community for their performance 
over the past year in exposing Russia's activities and helping 
Ukraine defend itself against both kinetic and cyber-attacks. 
Intelligence officials are understandably cautious about 
revealing hardware insights on adversaries, but this current 
surge has proven highly effective in strengthening the 
international community's response and creating dilemmas for 
Vladimir Putin.
    This is a great example of competing effectively in the 
information domain, and I hope we will continue to make this 
kind of creative use of intelligence. Some of the tools in our 
toolbox, like the section 702 authority from the Foreign 
Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, are critical to our 
ability to counter our adversaries' malign activities.
    The Committee would appreciate your views on the importance 
of Section 702 of FISA, which sunsets at the end of this year, 
and why you believe it is essential that we renew that 
authority. We would like also to know what guardrails are in 
place to give the public confidence that the authority is being 
used judiciously.
    General Nakasone, you have been working to mature the cyber 
force in advance its capabilities to conduct offensive, 
offensive, and supporting intelligence operations. It is widely 
recognized that our cyber mission forces are struggling with 
shortfalls in personnel numbers. We know that addressing this 
issue is your highest priority.
    The military services must also ensure their personnel 
management provides qualified and trained personnel to your 
Command at the beginning of their tours, so both the personnel 
and the Command can take full advantage of the time of their 
assignment to your force. I would also note that the private 
sector has realized the immense value of our cyber operatives 
and offering them very high compensation to leave the military.
    The services must adjust accordingly by providing a 
creative combination of incentives to compete for and retain 
these personnel. Finally, over the last decade, a recurring 
debate has been waged over whether to sustain the dual hat 
arrangement whereby the Commander of Cyber Command also serves 
as the Director of the NSA [National Security Administration].
    Recently, an independent panel established by the Director 
of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense and led 
by former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joe 
Dunford, concluded that the dual hat arrangement should be 
sustained. We would welcome your thoughts on this issue.
    Thank you again to all witnesses for your service and 
appearance before us today. I look forward to your testimony. 
Now, let me recognize the Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for that very fine 
and thorough statement. I very much appreciate that, and I want 
to thank our witnesses for being with us once again. The United 
States faces the most complex and daunting set of security 
challenges since the height of the cold war, and our witnesses 
today are on the front lines of those challenges.
    From the Chinese Communist Party's (CCP) unprecedented 
military buildup, growing hegemonic ambitions, to Russia's 
brazen and unprovoked attack on Ukraine, our adversaries are 
testing American resolve. Our foremost adversary and 
competitor, the Chinese Communist Party, has stressed both 
SOCOM and CYBERCOM in ways we never imagined a decade ago.
    Last year, General Nakasone said Chinese advances in cyber 
operations are unlike anything he has seen before. He also 
noted the People's Republic of China (PRC) is a more difficult 
adversary than the Soviet Union because they are much more 
tolerant of risk. This presents new challenges to our 
deterrence posture.
    Although Beijing may be our foremost advisory, others are 
not far behind. The cyber capabilities of Russia, Iran, and 
North Korea have continued to surprise many. I would appreciate 
an update on DOD's work to implement a zero-trust architecture 
and provide defensive cyber tools across the Department and the 
industrial base.
    I also look forward to discussing how collaborative cyber 
activities with our allies and partners such as hunt forward 
operations have helped to identify vulnerabilities, mitigate 
threats, and strengthen our network defenses. Military success 
in cyberspace depends on the readiness of our cyber mission 
forces. I hope to hear about how we can improve our cyber force 
readiness and accelerate development of cyber capabilities, 
particularly on the offensive side. General Fenton is no 
stranger to the determination of the People's Liberation Army.
    Having served as Commander of our Special Operations Forces 
in the Pacific, and the Deputy Commander of INDOPACOM [Indo-
Pacific Command], his challenge is twofold, to build a force 
capable of enhancing our deterrence and warfighting in the 
Western Pacific, even as the threat environment facing our 
Nation demands that SOCOM should remain fully engaged in the 
fight against violent Islamic terrorist groups across the 
world, from Africa to South Asia.
    His Command's work is critical to our country's security 
and is often the first to respond to our Nation's most 
pressing, unforeseen emergencies. In the 2022 National Defense 
Strategy. General Fenton's forces have been asked to assume 
significant risk.
    I think this Committee will want to ensure his Command is 
fully resourced to mitigate that risk to the degree possible, 
and I would also ask General Fenton and Mr. Maier whether their 
authorities and resources in the upcoming year are sufficient 
for mission tasks. What is clear to me is that the role and 
importance of special operations forces is only increasing as 
the nature and complexity of threats facing our Nation 
increase.
    The resources we provide to Special Operations Command 
should reflect that reality. Our first job in this community is 
to provide the tools our military needs to deter, and if not 
successful there, to defeat these threats. There is no doubt 
that continued real growth in the defense budget top line above 
inflation remains essential to our national security. This 
requires action now, not later.
    Our adversaries are not waiting, neither should we. This 
Committee led the bipartisan charge to increase the defense 
budget in last year's cycle. Mr. Chairman, I frankly have 
little confidence that the Administration budget request this 
year will be sufficient. If it is not, this Committee will 
again need to step up to ensure that our military has the 
resources it needs to defend the Nation.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thanks to our witnesses. Look 
forward to hearing from you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. We will 
begin with Secretary Maier, please.

         STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CHRISTOPHER MAIER, 
 ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR SPECIAL OPERATIONS AND LOW-
                       INTENSITY CONFLICT

    Mr. Maier. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of this Committee, thank you for 
providing the opportunity to testify on the global posture of 
our Nation's Special Operations Forces, or SOF.
    I am honored to appear alongside General Fenton and General 
Nakasone. I could not ask for better teammates than General 
Fenton and Command Sergeant Major Shane Shorter in ensuring 
your SOF enterprise is prepared to address the threats facing 
the United States today and in meeting the challenges to come.
    I start with thanking Congress, and especially this 
Committee, for your enduring support of the men and women of 
SOF. I am particularly grateful for your assistance in building 
the organization I lead, Special Operations and Low Intensity 
Conflict, or SO/LIC, with dedicated and gifted public servants.
    Sitting before this Committee last year, I testified we 
were at an inflection point in SOF's transformation to focus 
more on the pacing challenge of China and the acute threat 
posed by Russia, while maintaining enduring capabilities to 
counter violent extremist organizations, address Iran's 
destabilizing behavior, and conduct no fail crisis response 
around the globe.
    Today, in updating you on this progress and the work that 
remains I will highlight three areas, SOF's ongoing transition 
in support of the National Defense Strategy, the development of 
SO/LIC, and our continued emphasis on empowering and supporting 
our people.
    First, we are transforming the SOF enterprise to achieve 
the goals of the National Defense Strategy (NDS). While SOF's 
role in counterterrorism is widely understood and appreciated, 
my team and I work daily to ensure the value proposition of SOF 
in integrated deterrence and campaigning against strategic 
competitors is accounted for and incorporated into the 
Department's processes.
    As it has been in every major military challenge this 
Nation has confronted since World War II, your SOF will play an 
essential role. To start the deep relationship SOF has forged 
with allies and partners over the last 2 decades, often through 
shared challenges and sacrifice, has produced an international 
SOF enterprise that provides us unique, firsthand understanding 
of a global operating environment.
    It also has enhanced the resilience of our allies and 
partners to resist aggression. Second, drawing on the 
resilience--second, drawing on those relationships and our 
ability to reach some of the most difficult locations on the 
globe, your SOF formations provide unique access and placement 
that creates options for our Nation's leaders, and SOF as adept 
at creating dilemmas for our adversaries.
    Here, I would highlight the many years of our investment in 
transforming the Ukrainian forces into highly capable force 
that is consistently outperforming Russia on the battlefield 
today. Representing the value that SOF brings to the Joint 
Force is one of my primary responsibilities, and we continue to 
make progress institutionalizing SO/LIC's role as Congress has 
directed.
    Through my role providing civilian leadership for the 
organized train and equip of SOF, we have established over the 
last year in the Department a series of recurring processes and 
delivered key outcomes for the SOF enterprise. For example, the 
Special Operations Policy Oversight Council, which I chair, 
provides a senior level forum to address SOF unique challenges 
across the Department.
    We also have made progress on important initiatives to 
deter our adversaries and fill warfighting gaps, especially on 
irregular warfare and information operations. I am also proud 
that SO/LIC played a central role in the Department's landmark 
Civilian Harm and Mitigation Response Action Plan.
    Finally, I would emphasize the first SOF truth remains 
truer today than ever, humans are more important than hardware. 
None of our efforts are possible without our most important 
resource, our people. With the strong support of Congress, we 
continue to evolve the Preservation of the Force and Family, or 
POTFF Program, to address SOF unique challenges and to optimize 
physical, psychological, social, spiritual, and now cognitive 
performance.
    We also continue to prioritize a diverse, capable force by 
removing barriers to participation and advancement of SOF, an 
operational imperative if we are to succeed in an ever more 
complex geopolitical environment. Recent publicized challenges 
remind us that we must continue to evaluate our approach to 
force employment, accountability, and most importantly, present 
and engaged leadership.
    A healthy SOF culture that reflects our Nation's values is 
essential to readiness and core to ensuring we remain the most 
lethal SOF enterprise the world has ever known. Investing in 
our people is a cornerstone of ensuring your SOF are ready to 
take on our Nation's toughest challenges, because it is not a 
question of if, but when the call will come.
    Mr. Chairman and distinguished Members of this Committee, I 
thank you again for your partnership and support, and for this 
opportunity to testify today. I look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. General Fenton, 
please.

   STATEMENT OF GENERAL BRYAN FENTON, UNITED STATES SPECIAL 
                       OPERATIONS COMMAND

    General Fenton. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and--
--
    Chairman Reed. Could you bring that closer, General, the 
microphone as close as possible?
    General Fenton. Thank you. How is this, Chairman? Chairman 
Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of this 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you 
today. I am honored to testify alongside the honorable Chris 
Maier and General Paul Nakasone, and I am equally honored to be 
here on behalf of the dedicated men and women of U.S. Special 
Operations Command.
    Joining me today is Command Sergeant Major Shane Shorter, 
USSOCOM's Senior Enlisted Leader. Command Sergeant Major 
Shorter is representative of the incredible USSOCOM team, 
particularly our noncommissioned officer corps.
    Our noncommissioned officers are the backbone of our 
military and a decisive advantage within your special 
operations community, and they make us the envy of every 
military around the world. We are thankful for the leadership 
and support of this Congress, particularly this Committee, a 
committee with the legacies of Senators Nunn and Cohen, who had 
the vision and determination to establish USSOCOM almost 36 
years ago.
    Thank you for your decades of steadfast support ever since. 
Your special operations forces remain a national advantage, as 
we enter a decisive era, an era where the strategic competitors 
such as the People's Republic of China and Russia seek to 
reshape the rules based international order, and in response, 
your special operations forces strengthen and sustain 
deterrence globally as part of the Department of Defense's 
approach to integrated deterrence.
    With SOF's World War II origins and DNA rooted in decades 
of experience in strategic competition, now drawing upon are 20 
plus years of hard-won combat credibility and coalition 
experience, your SOF provide creative, tailorable, and 
asymmetric options for our Nation, while creating dilemmas for 
our competitors.
    As part of the broader joint force, we campaign every day 
to deter and prevent aggression, counter coercion, close 
warfighting gaps, and tackle shared challenges alongside allies 
and partners, all in support of accelerating the Department of 
Defense's strategic momentum toward our NDS objectives.
    Yet your SOF also remain vigilant in protecting our 
Homeland and United States interests from the persistent 
threats posed by global terrorist networks. In doing so, your 
SOF work tirelessly alongside a trusted network of allies and 
partners, U.S. interagency counterparts, and our Joint Force 
teammates to disrupt VEOs wherever they may be.
    While we campaign for integrated deterrence and counter 
violent extremists, your SOF capability to respond to crisis 
represent a critical strategic edge and advantage for our 
Nation. Agile, tailored, modernized, and capable, they enable 
us to undertake sensitive, high-risk missions, crucial to 
safeguarding and rescuing our citizens, and protecting vital 
national interests.
    Foundational to all these efforts remains our longstanding 
collaborative partnership with ASD SO/LIC [Assistant Secretary 
of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict's] 
Chris Maier and his team. The oversight, policy guidance, and 
advocacy within the Department provided by AS SO/LIC are 
essential for the modernization, readiness, and well-being of 
our SOF units and their families.
    Together, we are committed to placing people as our number 
one priority, and we are preparing for the future by investing 
in them and by leveraging our Nation's diverse talent to solve 
diverse challenges. To those listening today who are 
considering service to our Nation know the profound sense of 
calling and purpose that those of us serving in uniform share.
    We know that a deeply rewarding journey lies ahead for 
those who choose to join. You will be part of an incredible 
team of men and women tackling the toughest challenges for our 
Nation. Just yesterday, I had the privilege of hearing from 
Colonel retired Parris Davis, our Nation's most recent Medal of 
Honor recipient, and a Green Beret.
    At yesterday's ceremony to induct him into the Pentagon's 
Hall of Heroes, he summed up his military service and time with 
a Green Beret in three words, purpose, opportunity, and pride. 
As we speak here today, more than 5,000 servicemembers are 
USSOCOM are deployed, and they share his sense of purpose and 
pride.
    They are defending our Nation and standing shoulder to 
shoulder with allies and partners in over 80 countries to make 
our world a safer place. The courage and commitment of our 
special operations community, our military inspires the CSM and 
me daily, and we are immensely proud to serve with them. I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of The Honorable Christopher 
P. Maier and General Bryan P. Fenton follows:]

  Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Christopher P. Maier and 
                        General Bryan P. Fenton
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
this Committee, thank you for this opportunity to discuss the posture 
of our Nation's Special Operations Forces (SOF). We are honored to 
present an account of the priorities, activities, and investments that 
ensure SOF are prepared to meet today's challenges and those to come.
    On behalf of the Special Operations community, we thank you for 
your leadership and steadfast support. Congress's support ensures our 
SOF remain the world's most capable and credible, contributing 
integrally to safeguarding and advancing U.S. national interests. Both 
U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) and the Office of Special 
Operations and Low Intensity Conflict (SO/LIC) were established through 
the foresight and determination of Congress. Your enduring commitment 
enables our force to tackle the Nation's most challenging security 
problems while building enduring advantages.
    SOF remain a national advantage in this decisive decade, as they 
have been since their formation. This will be an era marked by dramatic 
geopolitical, technological, economic, and environmental changes 
globally. SOF combine decades of combat-tested and coalition experience 
to advance Department of Defense (DOD) efforts to strengthen and 
sustain deterrence with creative, tailorable, and asymmetric options 
for our Nation. Together, SO/LIC and USSOCOM directly contribute to DOD 
and broader U.S. efforts to deter aggression by our strategic 
competitors, counter acute forms of coercion, and tackle shared 
challenges alongside our Allies and partners. With our unmatched 
capabilities, SOF also remain vigilant and committed to protecting 
Americans and America's interests globally with enduring responsibility 
for countering violent extremist organizations and responding to 
crisis.
    The National Defense Strategy (NDS) is clear that we will advance 
our priorities through integrated deterrence, campaigning, and actions 
that build enduring advantages. Integrated deterrence requires the 
United States to sustain strategic deterrence and its conventional 
military advantage, including in space and cyberspace--complemented by 
credible irregular warfare capabilities. Competitors continue to seek 
advantage through coercive and malign activities in the ``gray zone'' 
below a threshold they perceive as likely to prompt a U.S. military 
response. SOF are uniquely positioned to draw upon our joint, global, 
full-spectrum, all-domain capabilities to provide asymmetric options 
for our Nation and create dilemmas for competitors, allowing our Joint 
Force to gain warfighting advantage and close warfighting 
vulnerabilities.
    To ensure SOF are well-prepared for current and future challenges, 
we are focused on supporting our shared priorities--People, Win, and 
Transform--to strengthen our force and families, succeed for the 
Nation, and modernize for the future.
Advancing Civilian-Military Partnership
    The Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-
Intensity Conflict's (ASD(SO/LIC)) oversight, policy guidance, and 
advocacy within DOD are essential for the modernization, readiness, and 
well-being of SOF and their families. As ASD(SO/LIC) reports directly 
to the Secretary of Defense in exercising authority, direction, and 
control of special operations-peculiar administrative matters, SO/LIC 
maintains a seat at the table alongside Secretaries of the Military 
Departments in key decision forums, such as the regular Service 
Secretary meetings, the Deputy's Management Action Group, and the Joint 
Requirements Oversight Council. Participation in these forums empower 
ASD(SO/LIC) to provide effective and enduring civilian representation 
of SOF equities and competencies to DOD and national leadership--a 
voice that is even more important in this period of strategic 
transition for the Department and for SOF.
    SO/LIC's unique role ensures key SOF-led capabilities are 
integrated into strategic concepts and associated investments are made 
to critical priorities such as irregular warfare, operations in the 
information environment, and undersea capabilities. SO/LIC ensures SOF 
concepts and capabilities inform and support DOD's broader planning, 
investment, capability development, and experimentation. For example, 
the Special Operations Policy Oversight Council (SOPOC) enhances 
integration between SOF, the Military Services, and the Combatant 
Commands, with the shared goal of ensuring SOF can meet Joint Force 
requirements with essential support from the Department. SO/LIC has 
instituted regular meetings of the SOPOC to integrate governance of SOF 
as well as SOF capabilities and processes across DOD as envisioned 
through the enactment of reforms in the Fiscal Year 2017 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) and subsequent legislation. 
Additionally, senior leaders from SO/LIC, USSOCOM, and the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment (USD(A&S)) co-
chair a biannual SOF Acquisition Summit--with participants from each 
Military Department and several USD-level organizations--to address 
challenges impacting USSOCOM's acquisition, technology, and logistics 
efforts in order to enable agile and innovative support to SOF 
operations.
    The SO/LIC-USSOCOM relationship is defined by multilayered 
collaboration, characterized by near-continuous engagement across all 
echelons from top leadership to working levels. Over the past year, 
this collaborative partnership has continued to deepen as we have been 
developing a co-authored future operating concept, detailing our vision 
for SOF operating alongside the Joint Force in the future and guiding 
near-term force design considerations. At the heart of this operating 
concept are our three shared priorities: People, Win, and Transform.
                people: strengthen our force & families
    Our people are the competitive and comparative advantage of our SOF 
formations. The creativity and commitment of these men and women are 
essential to adapting tactics, technologies, and organizations for 
tomorrow's challenges. We believe unreservedly that the first SOF Truth 
endures: ``Humans are more important than hardware.'' Together, we are 
committed to investing in our people through tailored education and 
training, leveraging our Nation's diverse talent, and enhancing 
readiness, resilience, and professionalism.
Investing in Our People
    We continue to invest in our men and women by adapting SOF-peculiar 
education and training for both today's environment and future 
requirements, coupled with tailored talent management for our highly 
skilled personnel. In full partnership with the Services, SOF-focused 
recruiting, assessing, training, and education yields the most highly 
developed workforce within DOD--often with language, regional 
expertise, and cultural knowledge proficiency unique to SOF.
    SOF's persistent, global campaigning efforts enable tactical units 
to cull the latest battlefield lessons learned--notably from Eastern 
Europe, the Indo-Pacific, and the Middle East--while continually 
adapting and improving the specialized training pipelines. SOF service 
components institutionalize these lessons and pair them with 
requirements to prepare the force to integrate new and emerging 
technologies.
    As one example, USSOCOM's Joint Special Operations University 
(JSOU) provides the unique ability to offer SOF-peculiar, joint 
education and academic expertise for the force, bridging the gap 
between practitioners and academia. JSOU hones its educational 
offerings to complement Service-specific professional military 
education programs with tailored courses. Publications, such as the 
Resistance Operating Concept, ensure both SOF practitioners and Allied 
and partner SOF are equipped with academic resources relevant to 
current challenges.
    As another example, the Army SOF component--via U.S. Army Special 
Operations Command's (USASOC) John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center 
and School--has adapted its training enterprise for the evolving 
strategic environment. The Special Forces pipeline recently modernized 
portions of its heavy weapons, anti-armor demolitions, and long-range 
communications courses to better operate alongside local partners in 
contested environments--drawing upon the operational requirements and 
lessons learned in Eastern Europe. The Civil Affairs qualification 
course modernized its culmination exercise to focus on pre-conflict 
strategic competition and setting conditions for the rapid 
reconstitution of governance immediately following a near-peer 
conflict. The Psychological Operations culmination exercise now 
incorporates synthetic internet and real-time sentiment analysis to 
educate students on foreign malign influence techniques and activities 
in the information environment. Finally, USASOC recently established a 
robotics and unmanned systems integration course that teaches students 
how to fabricate, integrate, and employ unmanned systems--while also 
training how to counter these same technologies. With support from SO/
LIC, these changes were informed by SOF experimentation in the Indo-
Pacific, lessons learned in the Middle East, and observations from 
Russia's ongoing, brutal war in Ukraine.
    To steward investments in education and training, SOF talent 
management enables USSOCOM to address distinct career needs and best 
use the skills of its talented, high-demand, low-density workforce. 
Specialized training and operational experience for personnel engaged 
in unique, and often sensitive, SOF activities require a more flexible 
career management system. A tailored career model optimizes operational 
employment potential for individuals with unique skill sets while 
providing incentives to attract and retain the most talented 
individuals to select SOF career fields. Additionally, the increasing 
complexity of the operating environment and the realities of ubiquitous 
technical surveillance require a greater emphasis on identity 
management and expansion of advanced skill sets across the SOF 
enterprise.
Leveraging Diverse Talent
    As the NDS highlights, our dynamic, diverse, and innovative society 
remains a core strength and source of American advantage. Maintaining 
the world's finest SOF in the decades to come requires leveraging all 
the dimensions of diversity within the Nation's deep pools of talent. 
Building a diverse force is both an operational and strategic 
imperative for SOF.
    We continue reinforcing efforts to enhance diversity in our 
workforce and foster inclusive work environments through USSOCOM's 
Diversity and Inclusion Strategic Plan and the accompanying 2022 
Implementation Action Plan--as outlined in the April 2022 presentation 
to Congress. The SOF enterprise is committed to welcoming all capable 
individuals, ensuring they are part of inclusive teams, and supporting 
their equitable career advancement. The SOF Executive Committee on 
Diversity and Inclusion--co-chaired by SO/LIC and USSOCOM--continues to 
provide senior-leader oversight and fosters accountability for 
sustained progress in implementation.
    We continue to make essential progress in removing barriers to 
women's and minorities' participation and advancement within SOF while 
also working with the Services to attract the best talent. Women and 
minority servicemembers serve in key leadership roles throughout all 
four SOF components and within various SOF headquarters. Women have 
also continued to successfully enter SOF-specific career fields within 
our most elite units. Throughout SOF, women servicemembers' 
representation has increased approximately 40 percent over the past 5 
years. While this progress is important and notable, it is not 
sufficient. Our sustained commitment to the Diversity, Equity, 
Inclusion, and Accessibility strategic goals and implementing 
successful best practices from across the enterprise will spur 
continued progress.
    In 2022, USASOC released its ``Women in Army SOF Study'' to 
identify barriers female servicemembers encounter and establish best 
practices to recruit, integrate, and retain women in our formation. 
Based upon input from over 5,000 participants, the study's findings 
generated 42 recommendations related to education and training, 
equipment modernization, mentorship and sponsorship, healthcare, 
childcare and other matters. Though specific to the Army component, 
many of the findings are applicable across the joint SOF enterprise and 
will inform future joint implementation efforts.
    Additionally, in August 2022, the Navy SOF component--Naval Special 
Warfare Command (NSW)--formally established its Assessment Command 
(NSWAC) to transform how its units compete for talent by building a 
sustainable architecture for diversified outreach, by conducting more 
rigorous pre-assessments for character, cognitive, and leadership 
attributes, and by strengthening NSW's culture of continuous 
assessment. NSWAC is taking a whole-person approach to identify, 
prepare, and mentor qualified candidates from diverse backgrounds to 
complete training programs and pursue a successful career in NSW. As 
this new command was being developed, NSW conducted 60 outreach events 
with more than half specifically focused on increasing force diversity 
and inclusivity with underrepresented demographics. These efforts will 
enhance the way NSW continuously assesses and selects its incoming 
officers and enlisted personnel.
    The SOF enterprise similarly requires a highly skilled and diverse 
civilian workforce. Like our uniformed personnel, USSOCOM's civilian 
workforce includes women and minority members serving in key roles 
throughout its components and various headquarters, including in senior 
executive leadership positions.
    At the same time, SO/LIC has continued to make progress in 
establishing and filling civilian positions for the Secretariat for 
Special Operations to support the ASD(SO/LIC)'s administrative 
oversight responsibilities. Over the past several years, these efforts 
have resulted in a team of highly skilled and experienced civilian 
personnel with expertise in capabilities development, budget, 
acquisition, civilian and military personnel, force management, 
legislative affairs, and special access programs. Given the relatively 
small size of the Secretariat, we continue to focus our hiring efforts 
on areas where civilian oversight can have the greatest impact on SOF 
readiness, resiliency, and transformation to meet future challenges.
Enhancing Readiness, Resilience & Professionalism
    The Preservation of the Force and Family (POTFF) program--along 
with our Warrior Care Program (WCP)--continues to enhance readiness and 
resilience for our formation and their families. The POTFF program 
delivers a holistic, multifaceted approach to human performance, 
resilience, and rehabilitation through a combination of USSOCOM, 
Service, and DOD resources. The WCP provides recovery care coordination 
for those who have been challenged due to wounds, injuries, or 
illnesses. SOF commanders have overwhelmingly embraced both programs as 
critical to promoting career longevity, mitigating injury, enhancing 
retention, and increasing quality of life. The combination of POTFF and 
WCP provides a continuum of support for our personnel through 
performance enhancement, injury recovery, and transition assistance.
    An increased focus on cognitive performance and brain health is 
necessary to prepare SOF to operate in an increasingly complex, 
information-rich environment. This focus complements POTFF's broader 
holistic approach to human performance across five domains--
psychological, cognitive, physical, spiritual, and social and family. 
Cutting-edge work in the cognitive performance arena has also resulted 
in demonstrated improvements in self-regulation, cognitive processing 
speed, and sustained attention among the majority of those 
participating in cognitive training. Additionally, USSOCOM has 
partnered with DOD Health Affairs and the DOD Traumatic Brain Injury 
(TBI) Center of Excellence on brain health initiatives to include 
enhancing TBI prevention efforts, surveillance modalities, treatment 
protocols, and research studies. We are grateful for Congress's support 
in all these areas, including the fiscal year 2023 appropriation to 
continue a pilot study into the long-term effects of repetitive low-
level blast exposure in SOF--another of USSOCOM's ongoing brain-health 
initiatives.
    We remain determined to prevent suicide and other forms of self-
harm. SOF leaders focus on underlying risk factors through continuous 
training and education. We have also engaged the Nation's leading 
experts to identify novel ways to address this problem. Through 
persistent efforts to destigmatize seeking care, we have witnessed an 
increase in servicemembers seeking preventative mental health 
resources. Thanks to a combination of POTFF and Defense Health Agency 
resources, access to both preventative and emergency mental health care 
has improved measurably.
    The WCP provides valuable support and advocacy for wounded, 
injured, and ill SOF personnel. Over the past year, we have retained 
nearly 70 percent of wounded SOF in military service, keeping the 
talents and dedication of these highly trained, skilled, and 
experienced personnel in our formation. The WCP also remains a trusted 
partner and tireless advocate for expanding government and private 
capabilities to care for our servicemembers and their families, 
including through both increased access to programs at the Department 
of Veterans Affairs (VA) polytrauma facilities and novel partnerships 
with non-Federal entities. We appreciate Congress' support for Section 
522 of the fiscal year 2023 NDAA which included a USSOCOM-initiated 
proposal to improve servicemembers' ability to receive charitable 
support in order to fill gaps in services that neither DOD nor the VA 
can provide.
    Supporting families also remains a critical component of enhancing 
readiness and resilience within SOF. A range of family focused 
initiatives support our force and their families across all Service 
components. As one example over the past year, we have acted to expand 
childcare access by facilitating Service funding for the Child 
Development Center at Camp Bull Simons on Eglin Air Force Base, 
Florida. Our men and women of the Army's 7th Special Forces Group, and 
other units in the area, stand to benefit from this expanded support 
from both the Departments of the Air Force and Army.
    Our enduring commitment to professionalism within SOF is critical 
to preserving the trust of our Nation and senior leaders that we have 
earned over decades. This commitment includes sustaining high 
professional standards, emphasizing engaged leadership, and maintaining 
accountability. We are nearing full implementation of the 
recommendations from the 2019 Comprehensive Review on SOF Culture and 
Ethics, on which we routinely report to Congress, including as detailed 
in the forthcoming biannual report. The Comprehensive Review 
Implementation Team has diligently overseen the continued efforts to 
codify institutional adjustments. USSOCOM's components have taken 
active roles in refining their processes to select key leaders, 
enhancing ethical training throughout the force, and ensuring 
accountability for lapses in conduct--all of which will continue.
    Behavior that erodes hard-earned trust or threatens cohesiveness--
especially harassment, assault, and extremism in any form--has no place 
in SOF formations. Period. We will continue aggressively implementing 
our prevention and response programs and vigorously investigating 
allegations of misconduct and holding personnel accountable, as 
appropriate. We continue to execute all DOD and Service policies, 
including the ongoing implementation of the Sexual Assault Independent 
Review Commission recommendations to improve reporting processes, 
victim advocacy, and prevention of harmful behaviors. We are 
fundamentally committed to removing behaviors that promote 
discrimination, hate, or harassment and that are inconsistent with the 
oaths to defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and 
domestic.
                      win: succeed for the nation
    SOF are strengthening and sustaining deterrence globally as part of 
DOD's approach to integrated deterrence. Drawing upon decades of 
combat-credibility and coalition experience, SOF provide tailorable, 
asymmetric options for our Nation while creating dilemmas for strategic 
competitors. With a range of options to deter aggression and counter 
coercion, SOF support Joint Force deterrence, including by bolstering 
Allies' and partners' resilience and resistance, ensuring precision 
access, countering misinformation, and mitigating risk.
    Our SOF enterprise supports NDS priority efforts to deter 
aggression by the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russia--
strategic competitors who threaten the rules-based international order. 
We continue to focus our campaigning activities to support these joint, 
interagency, and multinational efforts while also providing asymmetric 
approaches to compete as both the PRC and Russia seek resources and 
partnerships globally, including in Africa, the Middle East, and South 
America. By persistent campaigning, SOF actively compete for influence 
while identifying coercive and malign behavior in the ``gray zone''--
often offering options to judiciously counter such behavior.
    SOF leverage unique authorities to collaborate and operate with 
Allies and partners--our greatest strategic advantage for tackling 
shared challenges and promoting effective integrated deterrence. Since 
September 11, 2001, the transnational shared challenge of violent 
extremism has necessitated deep integration with capable Allies and 
partners, often via their SOF units and their own interagency partners. 
Operations over the past 20 years have also necessitated leveraging the 
unique capabilities of our U.S. interagency community and integrating 
with the Joint Force across domains.
    While the threat of violent extremism persists today and will 
continue in the years to come, we have honed our approach to conduct 
sustainable counter violent extremist organizations (C-VEO) operations 
and remain vigilant in protecting Americans and America's interests 
globally. The SOF enterprise stands committed to succeed for the Nation 
by strengthening our partnerships, campaigning for integrated 
deterrence, countering violent extremism, and leading in our DOD-wide 
responsibilities.
Strengthening Partnerships
    Partnerships are fundamental to SOF and to all our missions and 
endeavors. We now benefit from unparalleled integration with our Allies 
and partners, the interagency community, and the Joint Force 
strengthened over decades and honed particularly over the past 2 
decades of global operations. While the shared challenge of countering 
violent extremism facilitated unprecedented levels of operational 
partnerships, these mutually beneficial relationships have extended to 
the full range of SOF operations globally. Ever-expanding partnerships 
remain the cornerstone of SOF campaigning.
    SOF benefit from our Nation's unmatched network of Allies and 
partners. We cannot surge trust in a crisis, so we work every day to 
sustain this distinct strategic advantage over our adversaries by 
reinforcing America's latticework of Allies and partners. At its 
headquarters alone, USSOCOM hosts exchange officers and foreign liaison 
officers from 27 Allied and partner nations, offering an unrivaled 
ability to provide options to understand and act worldwide.
    Through persistent engagement over decades, SOF have fostered 
extensive interoperability and generational relationships with Allied 
and partner SOF, deepened by operating shoulder-to-shoulder during 
combat and other high-risk operations for over 2 decades. Authorities 
under 10 U.S.C. Sec.  333 (Building Partner Capacity) and 10 U.S.C. 
Sec.  322 (SOF Training)--the latter enabling the Joint Combined 
Exchange Training (JCET) program--are essential to further enhancing 
collaboration and promoting interoperability. In 2022, SOF formations 
executed 173 JCETs in 77 countries training over 2,000 U.S. SOF 
personnel alongside over 7,000 Allied and partner counterparts.
    SOF's integration with our U.S. interagency partners is equally 
important to leverage our Nation's full capabilities to enhance 
awareness and provide expanded options. This set of trusted 
relationships facilitates information sharing, enables collaboration, 
improves decisionmaking, and enhances synchronization for effective 
whole-of-government responses. Routine collaboration with interagency 
partners--such as the Department of State, the Department of Justice, 
the Department of the Treasury, and the National Counterterrorism 
Center, among many others--has enhanced USSOCOM's response to a range 
of threats over the past year, including adversary unmanned aerial 
systems, violent extremism, adversary misinformation, and near-peer 
malign activities.
    As one example, Operation Gallant Phoenix (OGP)--a U.S. interagency 
and multinational C-VEO initiative launched by USSOCOM in 2014--has 
enabled international and interagency partners to share information and 
disrupt VEOs. Coupled with Counter Threat Finance authorities and 
expertise, information-sharing operations, like OGP, continue to 
provide expanded options to disrupt illicit financing and deter malign 
activities. Well beyond C-VEO efforts, the OGP model is applicable to 
countering coercive activities in the ``gray zone'' and deterring 
aggression.
    USSOCOM also maintains collaborative, mutually supporting 
relationships across the Joint Force. Close coordination with 
Geographic Combatant Commands enables SOF to support both regional and 
transregional campaigning efforts--particularly important as 
competitors, like the PRC and Russia, pursue malign strategic 
objectives globally. USSOCOM's Theater Special Operations Commands--
each aligned with a specific Geographic Combatant Command--coordinate 
SOF campaigning in their respective theaters, ensuring activities both 
support regional strategic objectives and maximize transregional 
efforts. Operating transregionally has proven critical for C-VEO 
efforts and is necessary to gain advantage over strategic competitors, 
particularly in countering coercive ``gray zone'' activities. Strong 
collaboration with Functional Combatant Commands also ensures 
synchronization across essential warfighting domains.
    Special Operations, Cyber, and Space forces are unique in their 
global reach, persistence, endurance, and responsiveness. Each brings 
complementary capabilities to enable our respective missions. SOF often 
require cyberspace and space capabilities to see and sense the 
operational environment, or if required, to strike an adversary. 
Cyberspace operations may rely on SOF's physical access and placement 
to deliver effects. All of these capabilities can be integrated into 
campaigns, which enhance the effectiveness of the Joint Force. Our 
ongoing efforts to enhance SOF-Cyber-Space capabilities continue to 
evolve and now include integration with USSTRATCOM capabilities. This 
effort leverages quadrilateral coordination and synergy among USSOCOM, 
USCYBERCOM, USSPACECOM, and now USSTRATCOM in addition to other 
interagency partners. This partnership generated new options to bolster 
deterrence by building warfighting advantage and closing warfighting 
gaps across domains and regions--while providing options for escalation 
management. In this effort and others, USSOCOM's Space Force Service 
Element remains critical to integrating space-based capabilities and 
identifying SOF-peculiar space requirements.
    Last, our efforts to promote opportunities for experimentation 
between SOF components and their respective Services have deepened 
ties, resulted in operational breakthroughs, and improved warfighting 
effectiveness. In 2022, USSOCOM participated in the Army's Project 
Convergence, experimenting with SOF, cyber, and space capabilities to 
disrupt near-peer adversaries. Further, SOF supported the USEUCOM-
sponsored ``Atreus'' series of operations, conducting the first-ever 
demonstration of the palletized precision munition in Europe. Combining 
Air Force innovation efforts with the air-drop expertise of Air Force 
SOF and our MC-130 crews enabled the launch of multiple, long-range 
offensive weapons from nontraditional strike platforms, like cargo 
aircraft. Efforts like these create credible, strategic dilemmas for 
our competitors and deepen ties with our Allies and partners.
Campaigning for Integrated Deterrence
    SOF campaign globally and across domains to strengthen and sustain 
deterrence, supporting DOD's integrated deterrence. SOF operations, 
activities, and investments can undermine adversary confidence that 
their aggression will succeed, shaping their decision calculus. The 
access, placement, and influence generated by SOF's long-term 
commitments to building partner capacity and improving interoperability 
provide expanded, low-cost options to gain awareness, shape the 
operating environment, and present adversaries with multiple dilemmas. 
Additionally, SOF remain ideally suited to identify a competitor's 
coercive activities in the ``gray zone'' and counter them with 
deliberate, credible options while managing escalation.
    SOF's placement and access are unique in their breadth. Over 5,000 
SOF are currently deployed to over 80 countries executing a range of 
activities that enable the Joint Force to campaign for military 
advantage. Our active duty force is bolstered by National Guard and 
Reserve SOF supporting wide-ranging operations globally in over 30 
countries. This multifunctional reserve component also deployed 
domestically to 18 states last year, providing essential Defense 
Support to Civil Authorities and natural disaster relief.
    Our SOF enterprise continues to refine its campaigning activities 
to support priority efforts to deter aggression by the PRC and Russia--
with an emphasis on the PRC as our pacing challenge. Efforts to compete 
with the PRC are not limited to the Indo-Pacific, and neither are the 
efforts to compete with Russia limited to Europe. Though SOF are active 
in both regions, these strategic competitors seek resources and 
partnerships globally, competing with us and our Allies and partners 
for influence in Africa, the Middle East, and South America.
    Over the past 4 years, SOF's campaigning activities to counter 
coercion and deter aggression by strategic competitors have more than 
tripled--comprising nearly 50 percent of the deployed forces in fiscal 
year 2023. SOF also provide specialized expertise from our stateside 
forces to support Combatant Command priorities globally through U.S.-
based operational support--a disciplined approach to provide tailored, 
low-density capabilities to support specific operational needs.
    In the Indo-Pacific, SOF continue longstanding efforts to build 
partner capacity with Allies and partners, building generational 
relationships grounded in trust. We remain focused on honing the core 
maritime capabilities of the NSW and Marine Raider formations to 
preserve and strengthen U.S. warfighting advantage. Multiple SOF 
elements, including Air Force Special Operations units, leverage large-
scale, joint exercises to experiment with emerging technologies and 
creative options to extend SOF's operational reach.
    In Eastern Europe, SOF continue their decades-long commitment to 
enhancing interoperability with Allied SOF throughout Europe. 
Additionally, SOF operate alongside critical Allies to support whole-
of-nation resilience efforts and enhance resistance capabilities if 
threatened with territorial aggression. SO/LIC and USSOCOM also 
actively support United States efforts to bolster Ukraine's defense 
following Russia's ongoing brutal and unprovoked invasion--fully 
aligning these activities with Security Assistance Group--Ukraine. 
Since 2014, following Russia's previous aggression in Crimea and 
Eastern Ukraine, SOF supported multinational training efforts with 
Ukrainian SOF forces and provided Military Information Support 
Operations assistance to illuminate and counter Russian disinformation.
    Strategic competitors--specifically Russia--threaten established 
international rules in the Arctic and pose increasing challenges to 
North American security. SOF play a role in bolstering domain awareness 
and integrated deterrence in the Arctic as part of the Joint Force. 
Over the past year, SOF strengthened capabilities to operate and 
prevail in the austere Arctic environment. Large-scale, joint exercises 
and operations, such as Arctic Edge and Polar Dagger, provided venues 
for more than 500 U.S. and multinational SOF to experiment and operate 
in the North American Arctic region.
    A critical way the Department is seeking to gain and maintain 
enduring advantage in strategic competition is through SOF-led, but not 
SOF-limited, irregular warfare (IW) operations, activities and 
investments. IW is a critical tool to campaign across the spectrum of 
conflict, enhance interoperability and access, and disrupt competitor 
warfighting advantages while reinforcing our own. To further 
institutionalize IW across the Joint Force, we are updating policy, 
informing doctrine, and modernizing IW education and training. Through 
the establishment of the Irregular Warfare Center, we will continue to 
strengthen our understanding of IW through research, analysis, and 
engagement with Allies and partners.
    SOF continue to campaign in the information environment, exposing 
and countering adversary propaganda and disinformation to better 
compete in the cognitive dimension. The PRC and Russia continue to act 
assertively in the information environment to manipulate populations 
worldwide. As DOD's Joint Proponent for Military Information Support 
Operations (MISO) and the Coordinating Authority for Internet-based 
MISO, we are adapting our psychological operations forces for the 
evolving information environment. SO/LIC continues to improve guidance 
for and oversight of those who organize, train, and equip these 
specialized forces and those who conduct operations in the information 
environment. As part of the ongoing rebalancing efforts, MISO 
activities to counter strategic competitors have more than tripled over 
the past 3 years--comprising over 60 percent of the MISO activities 
worldwide in fiscal year 2022. The USSOCOM-hosted Joint MISO WebOps 
Center (JMWC) continues to coordinate Combatant Commands' MISO 
conducted via the internet and actively engage foreign audiences to 
illuminate and counter hostile propaganda and disinformation.
    SOF's crisis response capabilities remain a critical strategic 
hedge and advantage for the Nation. Agile, tailored capabilities enable 
SOF to execute no-fail hostage rescue missions and to counter an 
adversary's efforts to produce or deploy weapons of mass destruction. 
Repeatedly during 2022, SOF provided vital forces and command and 
control for crises requiring rapid deployment, complex problem-solving, 
and synchronized effects--whether responding to regional crises or 
safeguarding Americans globally. USSOCOM continues to optimize its 
global posture while sustaining the ability to respond to crises 
worldwide.
    Last, the critical authorities granted by Congress continue to 
allow SOF to campaign effectively against State and non-State actors, 
achieving an outsized impact across multiple mission sets. Operations 
supported by fiscal year 2018 NDAA Section 1202 (Irregular Warfare) 
have proven essential for applying SOF capabilities to expose malign 
activity and impose costs on malign actors. Operations supported by 10 
U.S.C. Sec.  127e (Counterterrorism) provide flexible options to apply 
counterterrorism (CT) pressure in otherwise inaccessible or contested 
areas--increasingly important as USSOCOM optimizes its C-VEO 
capabilities. Authorities under 10 U.S.C. Sec.  127f (Clandestine 
Operational Preparation of the Environment) and Fiscal Year 2020 NDAA 
Section 1057 (Intelligence / Counterintelligence) support SOF 
activities with greater clarity and transparency, providing options to 
campaign for U.S. advantage.
Countering Violent Extremism
    We remain vigilant in protecting Americans and America's interests 
globally through SOF's enduring C-VEO capabilities. SOF have played a 
critical role in degrading VEOs and disrupting innumerable plots to 
attack Americans and our interests since September 11, 2001. SOF 
formations continue to work tirelessly alongside trusted Allies and 
partners, our U.S. interagency counterparts, and Joint Force teammates, 
harnessing important capabilities to address the shared challenge of 
violent extremism and global terrorist networks that threaten our 
Homeland, our citizens, and our interests overseas.
    As we focus our campaigning efforts to address the priorities of 
integrated deterrence, SOF continue to pursue a sustainable approach to 
C-VEO operations by prioritizing threats, working closely with 
international and interagency partners, and modernizing approaches to 
degrade VEO capabilities. Wherever feasible, SOF embrace a ``partner-
led, U.S.-enabled'' campaign approach to C-VEO, built on a disciplined 
prioritization of risks to drive decisionmaking and avoid strategic 
distraction. This approach allows partner-led, unified action to pool 
resources and share responsibility for our shared security challenges, 
reducing our collective security burden. We will leverage and enable 
our partners' unique capabilities to provide an expanded array of 
options to disrupt VEO threats.
    For example, during operations over the past year to counter the 
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), SOF have worked closely with 
international and interagency partners to disrupt illicit financing, 
interdict foreign fighters, and illuminate propaganda.
    USSOCOM continues leading in its role as the DOD's Coordinating 
Authority for C-VEO through our Department-wide campaign planning, 
assessments, and recommendations. Its annual VEO threat assessment 
highlights its transregional approach involving multiple Combatant 
Commands.
    Violent extremists will continue to use terrorism as a tactic to 
achieve their objectives. Drivers of extremist violence exist in deep, 
multigenerational ideological divisions that military force alone 
cannot overcome. Ongoing geopolitical, technological, economic, and 
environmental change often exacerbate regional instability, threatening 
effective governance and fueling radicalization. As a result, violent 
extremism and terrorism will persist in the future, representing an 
enduring threat to the United States, our Allies, and partners.
    After sustained global pressure since 2001, the threat to the 
United States Homeland posed by VEOs based in the Middle East and 
Africa has diminished, yet persists. Further, the threat to United 
States citizens and interests overseas remains. The continued 
availability of safe havens and under-governed spaces perpetuate the 
risks of VEOs' external attacks. In East Africa, al-Shabaab presents an 
ongoing risk to United States interests both in Somalia and throughout 
the region. In West and Central Africa, the operations of Russian 
private military company Wagner are only exacerbating threats posed by 
al-Qaeda's affiliate JNIM and ISIS. In Afghanistan, ISIS-Khorasan is 
strengthening its connections to the wider ISIS enterprise and 
increasing attacks across the region. In Yemen, al-Qaeda in the Arabian 
Peninsula presents a continued threat of conducting or directing 
attacks externally. In Iraq and Syria, ISIS senior leaders demonstrate 
the intent and capability to target American interests despite the 
losses of critical operatives and personnel since 2019. Senior al Qaeda 
leaders also remain committed to attacking the United States Homeland 
and continue to encourage attacks by their affiliates.
    Violent extremists continue to incorporate new technologies and 
adapt their tactics, posing an ongoing global threat to our citizens 
and a risk to the effectiveness of our CT efforts. Adversary unmanned 
aerial systems (UAS) pose a pressing challenge, exhibiting a rapid 
evolution in employment and lethality exceeding improvised explosive 
devices over the past 2 decades. While the evolving UAS threat from 
VEOs is troubling, capable State adversaries and their aligned 
paramilitary forces have also successfully employed UAS to target 
American, Allied, and partner forces--most notably in Iraq and Syria 
over the past year. Given these trends, SOF must continue to modernize 
for the evolving CT environment.
Advancing Department-Level Responsibilities
    In addition to USSOCOM's designation as DOD's Coordinating 
Authority for C-VEO and Internet-based MISO, the command also invests 
heavily in its longtime role as the Coordinating Authority for 
Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction (C-WMD) and its recently 
established role as Global Coordinator for Counter-Small UAS (C-sUAS) 
Prior-to-Launch efforts. USSOCOM continues to provide DOD-wide campaign 
planning, assessments, and recommendations in these capacities.
    The command's role as DOD's Coordinating Authority for C-WMD draws 
upon its international, interagency, and joint relationships to counter 
WMD proliferation and deter aggressive actions by State and non-State 
actors. Aligned with DOD's strategic priorities, USSOCOM hosted a PRC-
focused C-WMD Senior Leaders Seminar focusing on threats within the 
Indo-Pacific. This event bolstered support to DOD-wide strategies, 
plans, and policies while improving interoperability with our 
international partners. USSOCOM seeks to incorporate select Allies and 
interagency partners to an even greater degree in the planning efforts 
for the updated DOD Functional Campaign Plan to Counter WMD. The 
forthcoming, revised plan will drive deeper interoperability and 
strengthen deterrence to defend the Homeland and our Allies' and 
partners' interests.
    In addition to DOD-wide responsibilities, USSOCOM supports 
Geographic Combatant Command planning efforts with critical expertise 
in this specialized C-WMD field. USSOCOM forward-positioned C-WMD 
subject matter experts to augment and assist USEUCOM contingency 
planning efforts prior to the Russian full-scale invasion of Ukraine. 
This proactive posture ensured critical chemical, biological, 
radiological, and nuclear defense readiness considerations were 
included in regional campaign plans.
    Similar to its Coordinating Authority role for C-WMD, USSOCOM 
continues to expand and refine its efforts as the Global Coordinator 
for C-sUAS Prior to Launch efforts, by identifying opportunities to 
target and disrupt adversarial sUAS and the networks responsible for 
production, proliferation, and use. In this capacity, the command is 
actively coordinating with Combatant Commands to synchronize 
requirements for intelligence collection, technology development, 
operations, and plans--all closely aligned with interagency and 
intelligence community partners intended to disrupt sUAS prior to 
launch. Further, USSOCOM is working closely with SO/LIC and across the 
DOD on C-sUAS-related policy, authorities, and resources to enhance 
SOF's capability to lead in this role.
    SO/LIC and USSOCOM continue to support DOD's civilian harm 
mitigation and response (CHMR) efforts. Both SO/LIC and USSOCOM played 
a central role in the development of the Civilian Harm Mitigation and 
Response Action Plan (CHMR-AP) and continue to support its ongoing 
implementation. SO/LIC leads CHMR policy efforts within DOD and serves 
as the executive secretariat for the CHMR Steering Committee, which is 
co-chaired by the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy, the Vice 
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Comptroller. In 
furtherance of that effort, ASD(SO/LIC) co-chairs regular sub-steering 
committee meetings with representatives from across the force to 
advance CHMR-AP implementation across DOD.
    Finally, apart from Coordinating Authority roles, USSOCOM also 
serves as the DOD's lead component for synchronizing Counter Threat 
Finance activities, including integrating, standardizing, and 
advocating for this important capability. The 10 U.S.C. Sec. 284 
(Support to Counterdrug Activities and Activities to Counter 
Transnational Organized Crime) authorities and the associated Fiscal 
Year 2004 NDAA Section 1022 authorities remain valuable assets, 
supporting interagency partners to identify and counter competitors' 
illicit activities in the ``gray zone.'' These authorities provide 
options to illuminate and counter malign activity by global terrorist 
networks and PRC-and Russian-affiliated transnational organized 
criminal networks, which are often closely tied to illicit networks 
associated with drug trafficking organizations.
                  transform: modernize for the future
    We are building enduring advantage by the continued investment in 
our people, technologies, and organizations--marked by a commitment to 
evolve, modernize, and optimize for the future operating environment. 
Our future operating concept will guide this ongoing transformation 
through a focused force design effort that examines how we envision SOF 
operating as part of the Joint Force in the future.
    With the direction and advocacy of SO/LIC, USSOCOM is accelerating 
its wide-ranging modernization efforts and leveraging its essential 
acquisition authorities that enable it to capitalize on our Nation's 
innovation ecosystem--with an emphasis on surface and subsurface 
maritime platforms; counter-UAS; next-generation intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR); mission command systems; and 
collaborative and autonomous unmanned systems. Modernization also 
requires strategic discipline and a complementary emphasis on divesting 
dated or obsolete platforms that are no longer operationally relevant 
or effective in the current and future environments.
    We seek to set the gold standard for data-driven decisionmaking for 
our Service-like and Combatant Command responsibilities--focusing on 
the talent, architecture, and processes needed to capitalize on data 
and artificial intelligence (AI)-related technologies. This includes 
partnering with industry and academia to modernize our digital 
infrastructure, foster a data-literate workforce, and apply data 
analytics and AI for decision insight from the headquarters to the 
tactical edge.
    To set resourcing priorities for future capability development, SO/
LIC and USSOCOM jointly issued Capabilities and Programming Guidance 
which formed the basis of SOF's 5-year Program Objective Memorandum and 
the President's budget request. Additionally, ASD(SO/LIC) designated 
two ``special interest'' acquisition programs--undersea maritime 
platforms and Armed Overwatch--allowing us to identify and rapidly 
remedy issues for these essential investments. Both actions represent 
important steps in enhancing oversight and advocacy for SOF's 
transformation.
Building an Enduring SOF Advantage
    The SOF enterprise continues to modernize its materiel and systems 
and incorporate emerging technologies to build enduring advantage. The 
command leverages its acquisition authority to modernize special 
operations capabilities in five focus areas: Next-Generation ISR, Next-
Generation Mobility, Data and Networks, Precision Effects, and Hyper-
Enabling the Operator/Biotechnologies.
    Supported by SO/LIC, USSOCOM has coordinated closely with the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering (USD(R&E)) and the 
Services to collaborate on and experiment in each of these focus areas. 
USSOCOM's unique attributes of being inherently globally deployed, 
partnered, and joint while also possessing acquisition authorities 
position it to contribute to the overall modernization of the Joint 
Force. Specifically, the command is well-positioned to be the partner 
of choice supporting three of USD(R&E)'s technology priorities: within 
cyber, focusing on MISO capabilities; within directed energy, focusing 
on electronic warfare/electronic attack at the tactical edge; and 
biotechnologies.
    Next-Generation ISR enables finding and fixing a target in a 
contested environment and consists of fusing three data streams from 
cyber-based ISR, space-based ISR payloads, and small autonomous and 
collaborative unmanned systems. In the cyber domain, we are integrating 
tools to provide an open architecture mission command system optimized 
for SOF's role in integrated deterrence. We are also leveraging the 
full range of open-source data to ensure SOF have access to timely, 
geo-rectified, and accurate data to inform their decisions. To better 
harness advances in space, USSOCOM has established a collaborative 
arrangement with the Space Force and the Space Development Agency to 
experiment with payloads that will provide its forces with space-based 
capabilities at the tactical edge. Finally, we are aggressively 
pursuing collaborative autonomy through our AI for small unit maneuver 
efforts across our portfolio of ground, air and maritime unmanned and 
unattended sensors.
    As part of the Next-Generation Mobility efforts, we continue to 
modernize our platforms to prevail in contested environments while 
working closely with the Services. We are equipping our existing 
aviation platforms with advanced infiltration and penetration 
capabilities--such as the Silent Knight terrain-following/terrain-
avoidance radar for our rotary-and fixed-wing fleets and radio-
frequency countermeasures for our MC-130's. USSOCOM has partnered with 
both the Air Force and Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency for 
development of high-speed, vertical take-off and landing platforms and 
the Army for its Future Vertical Lift program. Finally, we are 
investing in modernized surface and undersea maritime platforms in 
close partnership with the Navy--including one of ASD(SO/LIC)'s 
``special interest'' acquisition programs. These efforts in developing, 
testing, and fielding a range of maritime capabilities will strengthen 
deterrence in the Indo-Pacific and across the globe.
    The Armed Overwatch program provides SOF with an affordable and 
deployable crewed aircraft system capable of conducting close air 
support, precision strike, and armed ISR. This program remains central 
to SOF's Precision Effects modernization efforts that will provide 
critical situational awareness and force protection to SOF ground 
forces executing missions in austere and permissive environments.
    Precision Effects are not limited to kinetic fires as USSOCOM 
modernizes its electromagnetic warfare capabilities--best exemplified 
by its C-UAS efforts. While the command hones capabilities to defeat 
UAS prior to launch, it is also closely teamed with SO/LIC and the 
Army's Joint Counter-UAS Office to detect and defeat UAS that pose a 
threat to deployed SOF and our partners. Through a System Integration 
Partner contract, USSOCOM has taken a unique software-centric approach 
to C-UAS which will enable it to effectively counter the evolving 
threat. The command is pursuing a system-of-systems, open architecture 
approach to C-UAS that will allow for the rapid integration of both 
emerging and proven technologies.
    Within the Data and Networks modernization area, USSOCOM is 
advancing technologies across three broad capabilities: operations and 
intelligence fusion for its tactical commanders, protection of its 
operators from ubiquitous technical surveillance, and influence 
operations in the cyber domain. The Mission Command System/Common 
Operating Picture deployed after only 1 year of development by 
embracing agile software development techniques and is USSOCOM's 
gateway to DOD's Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2). As SOF 
operate in increasingly contested environments alongside partners, we 
must provide identity management capabilities to protect them, their 
partners, and their families. Finally, USSOCOM will continue to 
modernize internet-based and other MISO efforts with automation and AI-
enabled capabilities to operate more effectively in the information 
environment.
    Acknowledging the criticality of its network infrastructure, 
USSOCOM continues to implement a zero-trust architecture, providing 
greater security across the SOF enterprise. To ensure alignment, we are 
working closely with partners across DOD during implementation, 
including the National Security Agency and the Defense Information 
Systems Agency. USSOCOM has already implemented many of the zero-trust 
principles, focusing heavily on the principles of least privilege, 
multi-factor authentication, and controlling access to moving forward. 
We are also seeking to accelerate the transition to cloud-based 
architectures with modern data science environments. These efforts are 
integral to advancing JADC2 and ensuring resilient networks now and in 
the future.
    The final modernization focus area--Hyper-Enabling the Operator/
Biotechnologies--focuses largely on developing emerging technologies, 
enabling SOF to rapidly deploy promising capabilities. Hyper-Enabling 
the Operator pursues technologies to provide decision advantages by 
optimizing information for individuals and teams conducting partnered 
operations--with the goal of enhancing effectiveness. Our biotechnology 
efforts are closely aligned with the Preservation of the Force and 
Family program to address the physical and cognitive well-being of SOF. 
Our ongoing brain health efforts remain a critical component of this 
effort--combining best-in-market, leading-edge data and AI industry 
partners with nutrition and health partnerships while leveraging state-
of-science commercial and academic labs.
    Across all areas, USSOCOM continues to steward the acquisition 
authority granted by Congress. The command leverages the additional 
flexibility provided through tools such as Commercial Solutions 
Openings, Other Transaction Agreements, and Middle Tier Acquisition. 
This acquisition agility enables USSOCOM to benefit from rapidly 
changing technologies--many of which are evolving quickly in the 
commercial sector and are often produced by small businesses.
Leveraging Data-Driven Technologies
    USSOCOM continues to serve as a pathfinder within DOD for 
integrating data-driven technologies, leveraging AI powered by machine 
learning (ML), deep understanding, neural networks, and similar 
cutting-edge technologies. The command is working with partners across 
DOD and in close cooperation with industry and academia to identify and 
deploy data and AI capabilities across the SOF enterprise to enhance 
decisionmaking from the boardroom to the battlefield.
    The SOF enterprise continues to maximize its involvement in DOD-
wide initiatives, led by the DOD Chief Digital and AI Office, to 
identify opportunities to implement data-driven technologies. To this 
end, USSOCOM was among the first to welcome teams as part of the Deputy 
Secretary of Defense's Accelerating Data and AI Initiative in early 
fiscal year 2022. Additionally, USSOCOM's efforts to accelerate the 
adoption of Advancing Analytics (known as Advana) are enabling the 
command to link Service data and SOF data to illuminate the command's 
business operations in unprecedented ways. Notably, the command has 
linked approximately 300 disparate SOF and Service datasets together to 
create a ``single source of truth'' for baseline data and performance-
related insights for its personnel, financial, materiel, and education 
activities.
    Other recent AI initiatives include capabilities developed for 
information operations, medical research, predictive maintenance, 
intelligence, and autonomous vehicles. As one example, USSOCOM's 
Intelligence Data Science Team is applying AI to intelligence problems 
across the SOF enterprise. AI/ML disciplines such as topic modeling, 
network analysis, natural language processing, and predictive modeling 
are being applied to publicly available information and sensitive 
intelligence data to address intelligence requirements. Promising 
opportunities exist to further leverage data analytics and AI 
technologies in additional areas to include financial planning, 
logistics, personnel management, cyber, and a variety of operational 
applications.
    Across these efforts, we recognize the importance of deploying 
ethical and responsible AI capabilities. With partners in industry, 
academia, and U.S. Government agencies, we seek to employ explainable 
AI capabilities to ensure algorithms and models are aligned with our 
moral, ethical, and legal obligations. As the SOF enterprise explores 
the potential of emerging algorithmic technologies, to include natural 
language processes and large language models, we will remain closely 
aligned with DOD-wide initiatives to promote responsible and 
explainable AI to mitigate algorithmic risks, ensure traceability, and 
guard against unethical, illegal, or immoral outcomes.
                               conclusion
    From SOF's earliest history of strategic competition from World War 
II to the cold war through combat operations during the Global War on 
Terror, our SOF today stand ready to meet the challenges of this 
decisive era. Many decades of problem-solving, courage, and relentless 
determination attest to SOF's ability to succeed for the Nation today 
and in the future. SOF's unmatched, combat-tested capabilities provide 
options to prepare, prevent, and prevail in this era of strategic 
competition--whether creating dilemmas for our competitors, countering 
coercion, reassuring Allies and partners, disrupting VEOs, or 
responding to crises. As creations of Congress, SO/LIC and USSOCOM will 
continue to provide the leadership and advocacy necessary to ensure 
that SOF remains the world's most capable special operations force. 
With your continued support, we will confirm that our Nation's SOF are 
unquestionably a national advantage.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Fenton. General 
Nakasone, please.

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL PAUL NAKASONE, COMMANDER UNITED STATES 
   CYBER COMMAND/ DIRECTOR, NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/ CHIEF, 
                    CENTRAL SECURITY SERVICE

    General Nakasone. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, I am honored to testify 
beside Assistant Secretary Christopher Maier and General Bryan 
Fenton.
    Joining me today is Command Sergeant Major Sheryl Lyon, the 
U.S. Cyber Command and National Security Agency Senior Enlisted 
Leader. We are honored to represent the military and civilian 
members of U.S. Cyber Command. In the contested cyberspace 
domain, U.S. Cyber Command acts against foreign adversaries 
that threaten our Nation through malicious cyber activity and 
enables action by our Federal, private, and allied partners.
    For instance, a combined U.S. Cyber Command NSA [National 
Security Agency] Election Security Group countered malicious 
cyber actors and oversaw measures to enable the Department of 
Homeland Security and the FBI, among other domestic partners, 
to defend the recent midterm elections.
    The 2022 election cycle proceeded from primaries to 
certifications without significant impacts due in part to our 
effort. Going forward, success for U.S. Cyber Command will be 
measured by how effectively foreign adversarial actors are 
prevented from achieving their strategic objectives.
    Last year saw significant maturation for U.S. Cyber Command 
but our work is not done. In 2023, we must continue to focus on 
our people, our partners, and our ability to deliver a decisive 
advantage. We must improve readiness, bolster our resilience, 
and maintain a culture of continuous improvement.
    We will continue to deliver warfighting advantage for the 
Joint Force and partners throughout competition, crisis, and 
conflict. We are doing so by executing our service like 
authorities to build and sustain campaigns in and through 
cyberspace and the information environment.
    Through these efforts, we seek to counter adversaries in 
competition, to deter conflict, and prevail against aggression. 
Aligning efforts of both U.S. Cyber Command and NSA is 
essential to achieving these goals and is in the best interest 
of the Nation and national security. It all starts with people, 
the men and women of U.S. Cyber Command working with NSA and 
partners here and abroad.
    We win with people. The men and women of the United States 
Cyber Command are grateful for the support of this Committee 
and Congress that has been given to our command. I look forward 
to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Paul M. Nakasone 
follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Paul M. Nakasone
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for your enduring support and the opportunity 
to represent the men and women of U.S. Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM). I am 
honored to be here beside Assistant Secretary of Defense Christopher 
Maier and General Bryan Fenton. I look forward to describing how 
USCYBERCOM continues to deliver return on investment by using the 
authorities and resources provided by Congress and highlighting the 
work ahead for 2023.
    Guided by the National Defense Strategy, USCYBERCOM focuses on 
building enduring advantages through campaigning to support Integrated 
Deterrence. USCYBERCOM acts against foreign adversaries that threaten 
our Nation and expands capability through cooperation with Federal, 
private and allied partners. We seek to outmaneuver our adversaries as 
they look for opportunities to exploit the United States' dependence on 
data and networks in critical infrastructure, the Defense Industrial 
Base and private industry.
    USCYBERCOM is the Nation's premier military cyber force--one whose 
world-class talent and strategic partnerships defend U.S. interests 
while delivering warfighting advantage to the Department of Defense 
(DOD). It executes its mission along four lines of effort to create and 
maintain advantage against our adversaries:
      We generate insights and options in defense of the 
Nation;
      We secure, operate and defend the Department of Defense 
Information Network (DODIN), ensuring mission advantage for the 
Department of Defense;
      We develop options for full-spectrum cyberspace 
operations to assist Combatant Commanders and the Joint Force to 
achieve their objectives; and
      We boost the strength of America's allies and partners in 
cyberspace.
    USCYBERCOM will buildup its people, partners and decisive 
advantage. The Command directs operations through its components. These 
include the Cyber National Mission Force (CNMF); Joint Force 
Headquarters-DOD Information Network (JFHQ-DODIN), the commander for 
which is dual-hatted as the Director of the Defense Information Systems 
Agency); Joint Task Force Ares and other Joint Force headquarters 
elements. The commanders of Army Cyber Command, Marine Corps Forces 
Cyberspace Command, Fleet Cyber Command/Tenth Fleet, Air Forces Cyber/
16th Air Force and Coast Guard Cyber Command also lead their Service 
cyber components.
    Operational success in the cyberspace domain demands speed, agility 
and unity of effort. Hence, the roles, missions and responsibilities of 
USCYBERCOM and National Security Agency (NSA) must be mutually 
supportive in this mission space. A recent report on the dual-hat 
leadership structure completed by a Secretary of Defense and Director 
of National Intelligence-directed Senior Steering Group (comprising 
defense and intelligence leaders) found ``substantial benefits that 
present compelling evidence for retaining the existing structure.'' The 
successes that USCYBERCOM and NSA have experienced in defending our 
elections, in engaging ransomware actors, and in many other missions 
with the other Combatant Commands, rest on the alignment of USCYBERCOM 
and NSA. The Senior Steering Group highlighted these accomplishments 
for the Secretary of Defense and Director of National Intelligence, 
finding that the dual-hat structure is in the best interests of 
USCYBERCOM, NSA and the Nation. Success in protecting the national 
security of the United States in cyberspace would be more costly and 
less decisive with two separate organizations under two separate 
leaders. The enduring relationship is vital for both organizations to 
meet the strategic challenges of our adversaries as they mature their 
capabilities against the United States.
Present and Future
    USCYBERCOM persistently engages adversaries, countering cyber 
actors and their affiliates who are seeking to harm the United States, 
its interests and its allies. Skilled and dangerous cyber actors exist, 
many of them serving foreign military and intelligence organizations. 
USCYBERCOM provides options to counter malicious actors who exploit 
cyberspace to support their intelligence operations, steal intellectual 
property, promote violent extremism, impair democratic processes, 
coerce perceived rivals and fund transnational illegal conduct.
    The National Defense Strategy named the People's Republic of China 
(PRC) as our military's pacing challenge. The PRC combines 
authoritarianism with a revisionist foreign policy and stands as the 
only competitor with both the intent and power to reshape the global 
order to its advantage. Its rapidly modernizing military is building 
capabilities far in excess of China's defense needs while supporting 
Beijing's coercive diplomacy. Competition with the PRC takes place on a 
global scale, and although that contest remains below the threshold of 
armed conflict, it is nonetheless strategic in its effects and its 
implications. PRC-sponsored cyber actors represent a sophisticated and 
growing threat to the United States' and allies' interests.
    China is learning from Russian actions in Ukraine and elsewhere. 
The National Defense Strategy calls Russia an acute threat to the free 
and open global system, noting that Moscow flouts international norms 
with its destabilizing actions. Russia's aggression in Ukraine 
threatens the peace and stability of Europe. The United States and our 
allies are working to ensure the strategic failure of their attempt to 
change the status quo by violence.
    Russia's military and intelligence cyber forces are skilled and 
persistent. Russia has attempted to influence elections, through malign 
activities, in the United States and Europe and has enabled 
intelligence collection on a global scale. Moscow has a high tolerance 
for risk and collateral damage in its cyber operations. This boldness 
is evident in Russia's indiscriminate cyberattack on Viasat satellite 
communications in Ukraine and across Europe in support of the invasion 
of Ukraine last year.
    Russia and Ukraine are engaged in a complex struggle in cyberspace 
that includes significant support from independent actors. Before the 
crisis unfolded, USCYBERCOM partnered with United States European 
Command (USEUCOM) and Ukraine by deploying ``hunt forward'' cyber 
experts to assist Ukraine's efforts to harden their networks against 
Russian aggression. Since the crisis began, USCYBERCOM has focused on 
defending secure communications capabilities at USEUCOM and Ukraine--
ensuring the posture of our Nation's nuclear command and control and 
strengthening DODIN defense.
    The National Defense Strategy emphasizes our enduring commitment to 
deterring aggression in the Middle East and promoting stability in East 
Asia. Iran remains a destabilizing force in its region, and its cyber 
actors are proficient and aggressive. Tehran's paramilitary and 
intelligence forces sponsor a variety of malicious cyber activities 
against Iran's neighbors and against the United States, as we saw in 
last year's midterm election. Pyongyang also maintains cyber forces 
supported by North Korean information technology workers dwelling in 
other countries. They remain a threat, although much of their recent 
activity has been devoted to evading international sanctions by 
stealing cryptocurrency for the regime's use.
    Non-State actors also remain a threat in cyberspace. International 
cybercrime, often organized or executed by actors in Russia, continues 
to be a concern. USCYBERCOM and NSA enable efforts by the Department of 
Treasury, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and other partners 
to disrupt ransomware, cryptocurrency theft and other criminal 
activities. In addition, violent extremist groups are also active in 
cyberspace. The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria, al Qaida and 
associated terrorist groups maintain the intent to target Americans, 
although their capabilities have been eroded. Our Marine component, 
JFHQ-C (marines), works with allies and partners to disrupt violent 
extremist group mobilization online and to support diplomatic efforts.
    USCYBERCOM is fully engaged in its efforts to defend the DODIN, 
disrupt adversary campaigns to harm America and its interests, enhance 
our partners' defense, and support Joint Force objectives in 
cyberspace. Authoritarian adversaries feel threatened by the freedoms 
that democratic states regard as commonplace, and thus they not only 
deny such freedoms to their own people, they campaign in cyberspace to 
impugn the legitimacy of democratic societies and to intimidate 
opposition at home and abroad. As the National Defense Strategy 
suggests, it will take a whole-of-government--and indeed, a whole-of-
nation--effort to bend this trajectory back toward international 
respect for the principles of the United Nations Charter.
Defense of the Nation
    Defending the Nation is paramount among our missions. It means 
defending our military systems, networks and the critical 
infrastructure that enable national security. Every Combatant Command's 
operational plan across the Department assumes that our commanders will 
be able to leverage data and communicate orders and data rapidly and 
securely across the battlefield. In this regard, USCYBERCOM plays a 
crucial role in the defense of military systems, networks and data.
    USCYBERCOM and NSA collaborated in defense of the 2022 midterm 
election. Foreign attempts to meddle in our electoral process via cyber 
means escalated in 2016 and have persisted in every election cycle 
since. USCYBERCOM expects them to continue into the future as the 
prospect of distracting our leaders, pitting Americans against one 
another on divisive issues and undermining public trust in the 
democratic process is too tempting for foreign adversaries. USCYBERCOM 
seeks to render these campaigns inconsequential, in conjunction with 
the FBI and Department of Homeland Security Cybersecurity and 
Infrastructure Security Agency (DHS/CISA) partners.
    In 2022, USCYBERCOM and NSA teams staffed a combined Election 
Security Group (ESG) to coordinate cybersecurity, intelligence and 
operations. The efforts of the ESG enabled DHS and the FBI, among other 
domestic partners, to defend electoral processes and take action 
against foreign actors working to subvert the midterms. The 2022 
midterms progressed from primaries to certifications without 
significant foreign malign influence or interference.
    The Cyber National Mission Force (CNMF) played an important role in 
the defense of the midterms and is vital to many of our other efforts 
as well. CNMF conducts missions to counter malicious cyberspace actors 
and covers both the offensive and defensive aspects of our defend-the-
nation mission set. USCYBERCOM established the CNMF as a subordinate 
unified command on December 19, 2022 at the direction of the Secretary 
of Defense. Elevating the CNMF to the status of a sub-unified command 
not only recognized the importance of its enduring mission, it gave the 
CNMF greater ability to manage its personnel and readiness and to 
request manpower, funding and resources through DOD processes.
    Since 2018, the CNMF has deployed hunt forward teams 40 times to 21 
countries to work on 59 networks, generating insights and imposing 
costs on common adversaries. These partner-enabled operations have 
exposed malicious cyber activity by China, Russia, Iran and cyber 
criminals; made partner-nation networks more secure; increased our 
global cybersecurity partnerships; led to the public release of more 
than 90 malware samples for analysis by the cybersecurity community and 
ultimately kept us safer here at home. In competition, there is no 
substitute for sharing accurate, timely and actionable intelligence to 
expose adversarial activity with like-minded domestic and international 
partners.
    Last year, we created a combined USCYBERCOM-NSA China Outcomes 
Group to oversee this shift. The China Outcomes Group aligns components 
in USCYBERCOM and NSA, enhances intelligence insights, improves 
cybersecurity and delivers operational outcomes for the Nation. 
Resources are prioritized and focused on deterring and countering the 
PRC's aggressive behavior.
    Cyberspace is a global domain. Adversaries often penetrate 
privately owned networks and devices, using ever-increasing technical 
capabilities to disrupt operations or gain illicit value via activities 
such as intellectual property theft, targeting of personal information 
and installation of ransomware. USCYBERCOM is working under recently 
expanded statutory authorities and aligning efforts with NSA's 
Cybersecurity Directorate to bolster companies' ability to defend 
themselves against exploitation by cyber actors. This collaboration and 
broad sharing of insights with the private sector provides mutual 
benefits. An example of this is our UNDERADVISEMENT program, which 
links cybersecurity expertise across industry and government, leading 
to several operational successes as well as pointing the owners of 
victim systems toward threats that they can eradicate. In conjunction, 
NSA's Cybersecurity Directorate runs its Cybersecurity Collaboration 
Center to share best practices with industry partners and gain 
additional insights into the technical challenges they are 
encountering.
Strategic Initiatives
    The success of our operations to support the National Defense 
Strategy depends on training and readiness. We have prioritized 
improving the readiness of our cyber forces since USCYBERCOM became a 
unified Combatant Command in 2018, and there has been progress in the 
last several years. The staffing and training of our teams are 
improving. In addition, USCYBERCOM has enhanced its ability to monitor 
the status of the Cyber Mission Force (CMF) at the team, mission 
element and individual levels. USCYBERCOM is crafting standards for 
cybersecurity defenders across the DOD Cyberspace Operations Forces 
Service-retained cyber forces. The creation of these standards will 
improve the ability to defend networks while enabling our CMF teams to 
hunt foreign adversaries where they hide and foster a culture of 
innovation, collaboration and compliance that USCYBERCOM seeks to 
build.
    Strong partnerships are crucial to cyberspace operations. When 
working in unison, our diplomatic, military, law enforcement, homeland 
security and intelligence capabilities make a powerful combination that 
can disrupt the plans of malicious cyber actors. As we saw in our 
collective defense of the 2022 midterm election, such effects become 
even more decisive when we include our allies and foreign partners. 
Their reach often exceeds our own, especially in host-nation systems. 
As part of our regional engagement strategy in the Indo-Pacific, we are 
working closely with partners such as Australia, Japan and South Korea 
to share information that will impose costs on foreign adversaries. 
Likewise, we continue to do the same with other partners in Europe and 
Asia. We are also working to enhance partnerships with academia and 
industry experts who assist us in concept and capability development.
    Implementing USCYBERCOM's Service-like authorities will allow it to 
deliver priority capabilities with agility and at speed. In fiscal year 
2024, USCYBERCOM will assume control of the resources for the Cyber 
Mission Force cyberspace operations and capabilities. Enhanced 
budgetary control (EBC) gives USCYBERCOM the ability to directly 
allocate resources for greater efficiencies during the Department's 
programming phase and ensure they remain aligned with priorities 
through execution. EBC will lead to better alignment between USCYBERCOM 
responsibilities and authorities for cyberspace operations.
    Expanding USCYBERCOM's role in acquisition is another important 
step in the implementation of Service-like authorities. The Joint Cyber 
Warfighting Architecture (JCWA) is USCYBERCOM's premier platform that 
enables Cyber Operations Forces to conduct full-spectrum cyberspace 
operations. The Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and 
Sustainment is granting USCYBERCOM greater technical responsibility and 
authority to direct the development, integration and fielding of 
critical capabilities and infrastructure in the JCWA. Included in the 
Fiscal Year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act is a provision 
directing the establishment of a Program Executive Office (PEO) within 
USCYBERCOM. This PEO would assume Service-like acquisition decision 
authority for JCWA program components by fiscal year 2027.
    USCYBERCOM depends on support from the National Guard and Reserve. 
Service cyber components employ Reserve Component personnel to support 
operations and reinforce relationships with government agencies, 
increasing the synergy between USCYBERCOM and these organizations. In 
addition, Army Cyber Command benefited from the expertise of civilian 
data scientists during their mobilizations to support research and 
development projects that would not typically be possible with 
traditionally trained active duty forces. National Guard components on 
State active duty, and in the State Partnership Program (SPP) work in 
various efforts to protect State, industry and foreign-partner systems. 
The SPP offers additional capacity to support increased cyberspace 
security cooperation activities in support of national defense strategy 
objectives. We gain valuable insights from the specialized expertise 
that Reserve Component personnel can bring from their civilian jobs in 
industry and academia, and such ties have helped us build partnerships 
across America.
    USCYBERCOM recognizes its challenge to grow and develop its 
military and civilian workforces. Cyber Excepted Service (CES) allows 
USCYBERCOM to offer cyber professionals opportunities to use their 
skills and contribute greatly to the national security of the United 
States. Since CES implementation began, USCYBERCOM has seen positive 
improvements to the recruiting and hiring timeline.
    Enhancing diversity, equality and inclusion is a priority. 
USCYBERCOM and NSA cannot afford to overlook or neglect talent wherever 
it resides nor can we allow workplace challenges of any sort to 
discourage professionalism or inhibit creativity. Our impact for the 
Nation depends on fostering a wide range of viewpoints and free-ranging 
debate to encourage innovation and problem-solving, and we will not 
tolerate harassment in any form or behavior that stifles civil 
discourse.
Conclusion
    Success for USCYBERCOM will be measured by how effectively foreign 
adversarial actors are prevented from achieving their strategic 
objectives. USCYBERCOM will counter adversaries in competition to 
defuse crises, deter conflict and prevail against aggression. Aligning 
efforts of both USCYBERCOM and NSA is essential to achieving these 
goals and is in the best interest of the Nation. It all starts with 
people--the men and women of USCYBERCOM working with NSA and partners 
here and abroad--We win with People.
    Last year saw significant maturation for USCYBERCOM, but our work 
is not done. In 2023, we must continue to focus on our people, our 
partners and our ability to deliver decisive advantage. We must improve 
readiness, bolster our resilience and maintain a culture of continuous 
improvement. We have and will continue to deliver warfighting advantage 
for the Joint Force and partners throughout the full spectrum of 
competition, crisis response and conflict. We are doing so by executing 
our Service-like authorities to build and sustain campaigns in and 
through cyberspace and the information environment.
    USCYBERCOM's efforts to defend against and contest adversary 
campaigns in and through cyberspace have been enhanced by the support 
of this Committee. Designing our campaigns to stay in constant contact 
with foreign adversaries (persistent engagement) and synchronizing 
Offensive and Defensive Cyberspace Operations with DOD Information 
Network Operations are the critical initiatives that allow USCYBERCOM 
to maintain its advantage in cyberspace. These concepts will continue 
to be key to our effectiveness and are necessary to outmaneuver and 
outpace our adversaries wherever they are.
    The men and women at U.S. Cyber Command are grateful for the 
support this Committee has given to our Command. We can only succeed 
with a strong partnership with Congress. Thank you, and I look forward 
to your questions.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Nakasone. 
Gentlemen, thank you for your testimony. As I indicated in my 
opening statement, Mr. Secretary, we have made progress in 
strengthening the ASD SO/LIC to act as a service Secretary-like 
position regarding SOCOM, but there is more to do, particularly 
with respect to personnel, facilities, and other aspects of 
your office. Could you comment on what more must be done?
    Mr. Maier. Thank you, Chairman, and again, I would think 
this Committee in particular for the ongoing and very 
consistent support for the ASD SO/LIC position, and indeed my 
staff.
    Mr. Chairman, I give you a quick snapshot to say that I 
think we have established a degree of momentum and a bit of 
irreversibility, which certainly wasn't the sense of things 
when I first took this role, and a lot of that has to do with 
the continued support of Secretary Austin, Deputy Secretary 
Hicks.
    I think, as I have testified in this Committee before, the 
best snapshot I can give the Committee is when the Secretary of 
Defense convenes his service secretaries, it convenes the 
Secretary of the Army, the Secretary of the Air Force, and the 
Secretary of the Navy, and me as ASD SO/LIC to ensure that SOF 
voice and perspective is in the room.
    To your question, Mr. Chairman, on areas of growth, I think 
we do need to continue to add staff. We have added about 20 or 
25 people over the last 2 years with support from this 
Committee, and that is against about 50 people currently.
    It is a very small staff compared to the services, even 
with our limited authorities relative to them, and then I think 
most importantly, leadership billets. We need more ability for 
people in a very hierarchical Defense Department to be able to 
participate in meetings at the right level of seniority, sir, 
so, I would highlight those.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. General 
Fenton, what is the value of SOCOM in having properly empowered 
service Secretary-like civilian like Secretary Maier?
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you very much for that 
question, and I would say on a couple of fronts, very, very, 
very big value. First and foremost, as the Secretary Major just 
mentioned, his ability to be at the service, excuse me, of 
Secretary tables with the Secretary of Defense and represent 
issues for the SOCOM team along the lines of people, education, 
training, and even as he mentioned, where SOF will be and play 
a big role in terms of integrated competition. Excuse me, that 
is extremely important for the SOCOM enterprise.
    I would say, next, his ability to be with the service 
secretaries and represent issues from SOCOM back to the 
services that we take our folks in from is very important for 
us, and we are very grateful for that.
    Certainly, his direction, in many ways, throughout the 
Department in terms of how SOCOM views not only integrated 
deterrence but crisis response in counterterrorism has been a 
welcomed guidance for me.
    I am very grateful to have a service Secretary, and as I 
told you. I think, Chairman, when I was that confirmation, I 
looked forward to testifying next to my service Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General. General 
Nakasone, the issue of readiness with cyber mission forces has 
been a persistent issue we have discussed at the Committee on 
numerous times.
    The Cyber Mission Forces play a very key role and they have 
very demanding task. They require personnel with special 
aptitude, training, and experience. One of the ironies, of 
course, is when you develop such a person, he or she becomes 
very attractive for outside employers, so you have a retention 
problem as well as other problems.
    In some cases, in the past, it has been indicated that the 
services are not providing you the skilled and trained 
individuals you need, which does not provide you with the 
maximum possible use.
    Could you comment on the present situation with respect to 
Cyber Mission Forces, and also any steps that we should be 
taking to improve their readiness?
    General Nakasone. Chairman, as we take a look at the 
readiness of 133 teams, it really comes down to three Rs. It is 
the readiness piece of it--I am sorry, it is the recruiting 
piece of it. It is the training piece of it.
    It is the retention piece of it, and so, when you look at 
that, where I see this right now is the fact that the services 
have done a good job of recruiting the forces that I need. 
Assigning the numbers are one of the things that we are working 
with right now to make sure that we have all of the folks that 
we need. We have worked very, very hard to get the training to 
a very simple and predictable level.
    That continues to improve. The other piece that we need to 
work hand in hand with the services is the retention piece, 
which you highlighted. The challenge of someone that has this 
type of training is very, very attractive, to the outside.
    But several of the Services, the marines included, have 
made tremendous progress in this, in being able to focus their 
marines on doing what these marines wanted to do, which is 
cyber operations. In being able to stay within our force for 
long periods of time, we see a reflective retention rate that 
is much higher.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. Gentlemen, again, 
thank you for your testimony. Let me recognize Senator Wicker.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you. First question to General 
Fenton, and this is about the naval small craft instruction and 
technical training school, NAVSCIATTS, which provides training 
to foreign forces on small boat operations and unmanned aerial 
systems. The annual operating cost is $14.8 million, and that 
is divided across multiple stakeholders, including the Navy, 
SOCOM, and our foreign partners.
    General Fenton, let me ask you, do you agree with General 
Richardson, the Commander of SOUTHCOM, who said the school 
generates outside return on investments? Ukrainian troops were 
being trained there last year when President Putin launched his 
unprovoked and illegal attacks on their country.
    Do you agree, sir, that NAVSCIATTS provides value to our 
Combatant Commanders and key foreign military partners?
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that question. I am 
absolutely familiar with these NAVSCIATTS, as you refer to. I 
was more familiar with it when I was in INDOPACOM as a Deputy 
Commander, and there I saw value in that type of training, and 
I will say in many types of training, certain.
    We thank this Committee for a number of efforts that SOCOM 
has at its disposal in terms of 333, the 1202, and 127-echo 
that increase the capability of our forces and create 
partnerships in the way that we need those partnerships, and in 
SOCOM we call those partnerships pacing----
    Senator Wicker. And $14.8 million is a relatively modest 
investment, would you agree?
    General Fenton. Senator, I am not familiar with the budget. 
I am familiar, again, with the type of training that NAVSCIATTS 
produces.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. We have established that there is 
value there, so I appreciate that. Let me turn then to General 
Nakasone. Tell us about cyber in support of our Ukrainian 
allies and the Russian use of cyber in support of their illegal 
and aggressive invasion of Ukraine.
    General Nakasone. Senator, the story begins on the 3d of 
December 2021, when we deployed a hunt forward team to Kyiv. 
That began a 70-day journey for us to ensure that Ukraine was 
at a much higher State of cyber readiness.
    As you know, we saw early attacks on specific Ukrainian 
sites within their government, and we also saw continued 
attacks as the invasion approached. What we were able to do 
during that time was work with a series of partners to bring 
the tools and technology to Ukraine that was able to assist 
them as Russia conducted continued attacks.
    We continue today with support to a number of different 
Combatant Commands, United States European Command, and the 
training mission for Ukraine. Also too U.S. Strategic Command, 
as we take a look at ensuring that our NC3 network, our nuclear 
command and control and communications network, is the top and 
most important network and is fully secure.
    As we move forward, we continue full spectrum operations 
with a series of partners to include Ukraine to provide them 
assistance as they battle the Russians.
    Senator Wicker. Well, Okay. Do you expect Russia is able to 
intensify new capabilities in a spring offensive this year?
    General Nakasone. From the cyber perspective, we are 
watching this very carefully, Senator. They are a very capable 
adversary. We continue to work very tightly with our other 
partners within the U.S. Government, CISA [Cybersecurity and 
Infrastructure Security Agency], FBI [Federal Bureau of 
Investigation], to ensure that our U.S. critical infrastructure 
is protected, and NATO in general to ensure that they are aware 
of the tradecraft of the Russians might use.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, Secretary Maier, what more do you 
need? You were asked and you said you need to add staff, and 
then you need more attention to the leadership billets.
    Do you have what you need in terms of funding right now to 
do this and to deal with your enormous challenges, and if we 
give you the same amount you got this fiscal year with an 
inflation adjustment, will that be enough?
    Mr. Maier. Ranking Member, speaking just to my specific 
office, I think we are probably on a good pathway just in terms 
of funding. I already highlighted some of the other 
requirements.
    In terms of the entire special operations enterprise, I 
think our priorities are represented, understanding full well 
that the challenge with inflation means that if our budget is 
flat, that reduces our buying power, so that is something we 
will need to keep a close eye on, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Yet you need additional staff and you need 
increased leadership billets.
    Mr. Maier. Yes, sir. I think we are on a good trajectory 
with the leadership billets. We are part of that conversation 
in the Department. I think especially in outyears years, we are 
going to need to add more staff to build that capability to 
really help this transition I have described, from 
counterterrorism crisis response to also include the peer 
competition that we have talked about and I expect we will talk 
about more, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, gentlemen, for being here this 
morning, for your testimony, and for your service to the 
country.
    I think I would start this question with you, Secretary 
Maier, because SOCOM and CYBERCOM really are at the nexus of 
DOD's efforts to address the weaponization of information, 
which I think has become as much an issue for us as we are 
looking at our ability to be successful around the world as our 
military capability.
    Can you, Secretary Maier, talk about DOD's role in 
addressing that misinformation, and how DOD coordinates with 
other agencies and Departments within Government to address 
disinformation?
    Mr. Maier. Yes, thank you for the question, Senator 
Shaheen. I would broadly start with describing DOD information 
as rooted in military objectives. As we talk about how this 
fits into the interagency, we have a distinct role and a value 
to play, but not for broad messaging, not for all the work 
that, say, the State Department or some other entities would 
do.
    I think we have looked at significant components of the 
information operations enterprise and really tried to tighten 
and target it more so the value proposition and the measures of 
effectiveness are there. This is really a journey we are on, 
and I think it is one that the leadership of the Department is 
very, very focused on.
    I would leave you with the idea that this is much more of a 
priority in the context of integrated deterrence that the 
national defense strategy calls out, because information is so 
critical, as you said, to all the aspects of success, 
especially as we start to think about adversaries we are trying 
to deter, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. As you think about our efforts to 
recognizing--you are saying that we are trying to be more 
focused and how we address information at DOD. But clearly, 
what happens at State and in other Government agencies affects 
what DOD does. Are there policy changes? Are there resources? 
Is there coordination that should be done that we should be 
thinking about? I would ask General Fenton and Nakasone to 
respond to that as well.
    Mr. Maier. Briefly, ma'am, I think we need to invest more 
in the DOD information operations enterprise. It has not been 
one that has frequently been a focus, frankly, and I think with 
more capability in the Department and all hands, our ability to 
coordinate in an interagency standpoint. That is still very 
much a work in progress, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. General Fenton.
    General Fenton. Senator, I would echo all of Secretary 
Maier's comments. Then I would add that the integrated 
deterrence approach, I think, does demand a whole-of-government 
approach in information operations, and SOCOM is one part of 
that in the Department side, but we also coordinate with other 
agencies of the Government to ensure that we are integrated and 
that folks know that the SOCOM piece is a traditional military 
activity.
    The information operation space, as I like to say, is a 
place we absolutely have to be as part of a military, 
traditional military activity, and to get effects for 
Commanders either to message an adversary, to see 
misinformation and provide that to a host nation.
    Senator, I think our key message to the SOCOM enterprise as 
we move forward is, we remain aligned with the Department and 
certainly as part of the whole Government approach. It is a key 
part for us, and our State colleagues and other colleagues in 
the U.S. Government are very important as we do that.
    Senator Shaheen. General Nakasone.
    General Nakasone. Senator, it begins overseas. We are very 
familiar in how to do these operations. We have seen it in the 
elections. We have seen it with Russia, Ukraine. We have seen 
it with Iran.
    The same actors that are interfering in our elections are 
the same actors that are doing influence operations. We go 
after them. This is what persistent engagement is for U.S. 
Cyber Command and the National Security Agency. We find them 
and we continue to ensure that we understand exactly what they 
are doing.
    We examine their tradecraft, and then we share it with a 
series of different partners. This is only done effectively, as 
both the Secretary and General Fenton have indicated, is with 
partners. Inside the United States, sharing signatures with the 
FBI who share it with social media companies, being able to 
work with allied partners who have a broader understanding.
    But then I think it is also with, how do you bring the 
totality of our Government against them. Whether it is State 
Department, Treasury, FBI, being able to go after them.
    The one thing we have learned, though, on this is that they 
never go away. They are always there, and you always have to be 
persistent.
    Senator Shaheen. The Fiscal Year 2020 NDAA, trying to 
better focus the Department's efforts on information operations 
and then establish a principal information operations adviser, 
and ask the Secretary of Defense to conduct information 
operations and require a strategy and posture review that was 
due more than a year ago.
    It still hasn't been delivered by the Department. Can you 
tell us what the status of that report is, Secretary Maier, and 
when we could expect delivery?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, yes, we understand both the strategy 
and the posture review are overdue. They both are now in senior 
level coordination, so above my level. They passed through my 
review.
    I would expect in a matter of weeks they would come to you. 
I would say, in understanding the times out, that these have 
helped to animate a lot of the conversations and deep action 
within the Department to really focus down it in on posture, 
and then the strategy has prompted a relook at how we go about 
doing information operations, per your opening question, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, so, I should assume we would 
have it by maybe the end of April?
    Mr. Maier. That is our intent. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Fenton, 
in your nomination hearing last year, you agreed with your 
predecessor, General Clark, that without sustained 
counterterrorism (CT) pressure, we are going to continue to see 
terrorist groups that are more able to focus on planning and 
preparing for external attacks. Do you still agree with that 
statement?
    General Fenton. Senator, I absolutely agree with that 
statement. There is a direction to the SOCOM team from the 
Secretary of Defense to have that as one of our three main 
priorities, integrated deterrence, counterterrorism, counter 
violent extremist organization (VEO), and crisis response.
    Senator Fischer. I remain highly concerned that we aren't 
seeing sustained CT pressure that we need in Afghanistan, 
especially with respect to ISIS-K [Islamic State of Iraq and 
Syria-Khorasan]. It is my understanding that we have only had 
one single strike in over a year.
    I don't believe that that translates into sustained CT 
pressure against ISIS-K. Can you describe the challenges of 
conducting the over the horizon CT operations without the 
reliable partners on the ground, without basing it in 
neighboring countries, and without reliable access to airspace?
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that opportunity to 
comment. On the first portion of that reference to Afghanistan, 
I would defer certainly to General Kurilla, his team. They have 
a more fulsome insight with a series of partners, than I would 
have, and additional challenges.
    SOCOM being one part of a whole Government team, I am sure 
there are many others that would give you a different insights 
and probably some more fulsome data. But what I would tell----
    Senator Fischer. Do your insights, sir, differ with some of 
theirs that they have made to this Committee?
    General Fenton. No, but what I would tell you, Senator, is 
that part of addressing ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] 
in Afghanistan is addressing it globally. When I look at that 
question, I certainly view it through the Secretary's priority, 
and for us, defend the Nation, and I think counterterrorism and 
VEO, it is a very high priority for SOCOM.
    As we think about it, we certainly, first and foremost know 
that your Special Operations Command team, in partnership with 
COCOM, because ISIS Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] is a 
global organization, can sense, see, and strike anywhere in the 
globe.
    In essence, many of our operations are in places where we 
are not proximate to the target, and in fact, last year, an 
operation that went off in Northwest Syria to remove ISIS, 
number one, from the battlefield, we had to fly across Syria to 
get there. We are very far from that target.
    But our ability to see it, sense it, and then strike it, 
unquestionable, and I think we have been able to do that 
globally throughout this year in places, Somalia with sustained 
pressure on ISIS, against an ops and communications node.
    I would add also that that global pressure for SOCOM, in 
concert with partnerships, goes on even in the Indo-Pacific. 
So, my sense to you, Senator, is that we absolutely have to 
keep the pressure on ISIS, on any of those terrorist networks.
    If I think about it with a number of the operations that 
have occurred, and I would be happy to talk more in a closed 
setting, it has been an extremely challenging year for these 
extremist operations, with a number of operations we put 
together, to include in Syria.
    Senator Fischer. Well, SOCOM has been primarily focused on 
counterterrorism mission for the last 20 years. The special 
operation forces have a lot of capability that they can bring 
to the Indo-Pacific. You earlier mentioned your experience 
there, and I value your knowledge and experience.
    Can you provide an update on how you plan to rebalance your 
forces that you have through restructure, training, and 
exercises, or to develop any kind of unique capabilities in 
order to meet the increased demand signal that we are getting 
from INDOPACOM.
    General Fenton. Thank you very much for an opportunity to 
comment on that. I think as we--Senator, as we look at our 
priorities across the when category of integrated deterrence, 
crisis response, and counterterrorism, it is an adjustment.
    I have heard it referred to in other places as a pivot. I 
would tell you it is an adjustment for how we are going to 
address strategic competition, integrated deterrence. It is in 
our DNA. We have been doing it--we have, as your special 
operations forces, were really born to do this. In INDOPACOM, I 
think what it means is, through the lens of prevention, 
deterrence, and preparation, beginning with partnerships, 
partnerships with nations in that region that want the U.S. 
there.
    They want to see a U.S. capability, and frankly, in many 
ways, when that U.S. capability shows up, through the lens of 
special operations forces, we are absolutely able to move a 
partnership toward the United States and away from the PRC 
[People's Republic of China].
    I think that same type of partnership helped us in Ukraine 
with the training that we were doing there with the Ukrainians, 
from 2014 and on, saw the special operations way of warfare and 
the way of doing business. All of that is very applicable to 
what we are doing in the Indo-Pacific, but I defer certainly to 
Admiral Aquilino for a more fulsome of how he sees it, because 
I am always in line with his requirements.
    We do that through our Theater Special Operations Command, 
our TSOC, Special Operations Command Pacific. We take lead from 
them at the SOCOM enterprise. But we are invested there, 
Senator Fischer, in a way to deter, prepare for, and then if 
needed, prevail in conflict.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, and thank all of you, 
gentlemen, for your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator 
Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General 
Nakasone, we have been working together on helping to develop a 
greater cyber capability amongst new personnel, and we created 
this cyber academy for civilian workforce, which should be 
accepting its first class in 2024, applications in 2024 for a 
class in 2025.
    We are using the universities that NSA has already assessed 
as having the correct cyber capability and cyber curriculum. 
But in light of your testimony, I wanted to ask, would it be 
helpful to you to have a dedicated cyber force training just 
for permanent Cyber Command personnel for the military side as 
well? If you did want that, what would that look like?
    General Nakasone. Senator, first of all, thank you for the 
work that you have done to build a greater population of cyber 
savvy folks. I am not sure that we need an academy yet. What I 
am very, very focused on is being able to look at the continued 
success we are going to have with the program that you have 
worked with in New York.
    I am very interested in continuing the successes that we 
have had across the National Guard with State partnership 
programs. You are very, very familiar with the New York 
National Guard's work with Brazil, and other National Guard 
forces here.
    I am also very, very focused on ensuring that the ROTC 
[Reserve Officer Training Corp] and academy programs continue 
to have strong growth in terms of the numbers of people that 
can be commissioned into our force.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, gentlemen. Mr. Maier, you 
acknowledge in your opening statement that the shift away from 
counterterrorism is the primary role of our Nation's special 
operations forces.
    But far from decreasing the need for those forces, I would 
suggest that the current threat environment calls for even more 
capability. The need to continue our counterterrorism missions, 
support foreign and internal defense activities to bolster 
allies, and engage in new types of operations that are going to 
counter Chinese and Russian aggression.
    In that operating environment, would a decrease in force 
size or budget seem like a reasonable step to you?
    Mr. Maier. Senator Cotton, thanks for the question. Yes, 
this is the crux of the challenge, right. We are being asked to 
do more and our forces is probably static. So, I would not 
advocate for a reduction in forces, sir.
    Senator Cotton. I regret that you are here today, and not 
48 hours from now when we are going to get the President's 
budget. Because I am troubled that you may, in fact get a 
reduction in budget or forces. Have any thoughts on what we are 
going to see on Thursday?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, as I think you know, I can't talk to 
what is likely to be in the budget, but I think as General 
Fenton and I both said, the priorities that we have identified 
are represented in that budget.
    Senator Cotton. That is Okay. Well, if my fears are proven 
out, I think you can count on many Members of this Committee, 
probably in both parties, to try to make sure that our special 
operations forces have the resources they need. General Fenton, 
do you agree that SOCOM requirements and your relevance are 
growing in this threat environment, not decreasing?
    General Fenton. Senator, I would agree with that. I think 
that the SOCOM requirements to be in campaigning and 
competition are absolutely important and exceedingly asked for 
by Combatant Command teams, where I draw my requirements from. 
Certainly, in line with our Theater Special Ops Command, the 
TSOCs.
    But we see it because much of this begins with 
partnerships. Partnerships that we forge through the SOCOM team 
and enable. The payoff in many ways can be looked at in the 
vicinity of Ukraine.
    Senator Cotton. So, a decrease in either your budget or 
your personnel levels would add risk to your mission and 
therefore to our Nation.
    General Fenton. Well, Senator, I--no one wants to see a 
decrease in the personnel or the budget. I would tell you that 
I think it would not reflect the requirements, number one, a 
decrease of that, and number two, we would be forced at some 
point to make hard choices, because each and every time I think 
you will see me give you the best Special Operations Command 
for the budget we get.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Mr. Maier, when you talk about your 
personnel, I want to return to something else you had in your 
opening statement because I want to make sure we are using this 
personnel budget the right way. You talked about the need for 
more staff. I got to tell you, that gets my hackles up pretty 
quickly.
    I think we have plenty of staff in the Pentagon, way too 
much. Frankly, I think we have too many people dressed like you 
and me and not enough people dressed like the men to your right 
in your left, performing these jobs. Could you explain a little 
bit more about what kind of staff you are talking about and why 
you would need more staff?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I was referring specifically to the 
special operations low intensity conflict staff that performs 
the title 10 responsibility of the organized train, equip for 
SOCOM.
    Frankly, sir, a lot of what these staff do on a daily basis 
is try to articulate the SOF value proposition back into the 
Department with the services. Some of my concern is that as we 
go from the less intense environment of counterterrorism or go 
toward a less intense environment without the intense focus on 
counterterrorism, that some of what SOF has traditionally been 
afforded will be lost in that.
    Sir, sometimes this is just as simple as making sure that 
we have the SOF value proposition represented in resourcing, 
training, planning. I have been frankly surprised at times of 
how that has been forgotten or too narrowly defined as being a 
counterterrorism problem.
    My 40 some odd staff are very much in that business, and it 
is the analytics. It is supporting special programs, other 
things like, that that are very, I think, akin to the SOF value 
proposition, but don't have representation often within the 
broader Department, sir.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. General Fenton, one final question. 
In your opening statement, you talked about the strategic 
transition for the special operation forces. Could you explain 
a little more about the role that special--that your force, the 
special operations forces, are going to be expected to play in 
the future fight? If so, if you can at an unclassified level, 
maybe help share that story.
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that. I will focus 
on integrated deterrence, and where the Secretary and the 
Department have asked us to be aligned. When I think about 
that, I think about a long three, really three lenses, prevent, 
prepare, and then prevail.
    I think on the prevention side, it is all about being 
forward, it is about being deployed, or our skills, cultural 
understanding, language, and a familiarity with many of these 
environments that come from organizations in our enterprise 
that know those places as well, such as our first Special 
Forces Group in the Indo-Pacific, for instance, have a very 
deep familiarity with all things that go on in many of the 
partner nations.
    I think it is key to keep that certainly thick and 
strengthened. Part of it is being out training, advising, 
assisting, building capabilities, and using many of the tools 
this Committee gives us in the form of security cooperation, 
1202, and counterterrorism tools. That is a very key part.
    I think it also allows us an opportunity to help the Joint 
Force and enable them as we are out in those environments and 
are able to prepare through our understanding of everything 
from seabed all the way to the space domain.
    Then work in concert with General Nakasone and Jim 
Dickinson in a SOF space cyber triad. I think those are all 
very important. There is an acceleration toward that. It began 
before, certainly under General Richard Clarke, and we are 
accelerating that in the special operations team, while we stay 
vigilant on the counter-terror mission and certainly our crisis 
response duties as directed by the Secretary.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, gentlemen.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Let me begin by 
adding an exclamation point to the point that Senator Cotton 
just raised about the need for ample resources devoted to our 
national defense, most especially the kind of work that you are 
doing. I think your testimony today reinforces my hope that we 
will have bipartisan support for that kind of sufficient 
investment in our national defense.
    I have been to Ukraine three times over the roughly last 
year, once before the invasion, and had an opportunity to talk 
to some of the special forces trainers who were there working 
with Ukrainian personnel. General Fenton, I am hoping that 
there has been continued training outside of Ukraine. I realize 
none of those special operations forces are located physically 
there now.
    When I was there last, a number of weeks ago, none were 
there, at least visibly to us. But I am hoping that that 
training mission is continuing outside of Ukraine.
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that. It absolutely 
is continuing outside of Ukraine in a number of locations, 
bringing the capability that continues to assist Ukrainians off 
as part of the entire Ukrainian military, and that training 
goes on, along.
    A number of the lines you have seen before, the capability 
to defend themselves, the capability to mission plan and 
orient, an understanding of the intelligence, and certainly an 
understanding of creating dilemmas for the Russian formation.
    The Ukrainian SOF is a key part of the Ukrainian military's 
approach. We do that, as your special operations team, 
certainly under General Cavoli's direction and watching in 
concert with his teammates in order that that is integrated 
with the entirety of the approach the SecDef directed.
    Chairman Reed. What is your assessment as to how well the 
Ukrainian special forces have operated?
    General Fenton. Senator, I think they have been superb from 
the very beginning, and I will start the journey in the 90's 
when Special Operations, and Special Forces in particular, or 
ten Special Forces Group made contact with Ukrainian forces 
after the fall of the Soviet Union.
    That generational relationship, something that is very, 
very important to your special operations community, in my 
sense laid the pathway for in 2014 our ability to really get 
after it after the first invasion by the Russians.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    General Fenton. They have done superbly well and they have 
been extremely willing to prepare and to fight.
    Senator Blumenthal. And to learn.
    General Fenton. And to learn, yes, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. General Nakasone, I think a number of 
experts have been somewhat surprised that the Russians haven't 
been more aggressive in the cyber sphere against Ukraine in 
this past year.
    What is your assessment as to why they haven't been more 
aggressive, why they have been somewhat apparently quiescent, 
or maybe the Ukrainians have just resisted and fended them off 
without our knowing it?
    General Nakasone. Senators, the Russians have been very 
active in Ukraine in terms of conducting a number of cyber-
attacks, including destructive and disruptive attacks. I think 
there is several pieces of the story here that are important 
though.
    First of all, when you begin the plan and you think it is 
going to be a very easy invasion, perhaps you don't do enough 
planning with regards to your enabling activities. Second, give 
full credit to the Ukrainians. They did a tremendous job in 
terms of building their cybersecurity resilience.
    The third piece is, is that this is again for persistent 
engagement, my discussion previously, being able to enable and 
act with your partners. The Russians have not been as 
successful, and there is a number of reasons for that.
    I would point also to the fact that we have been able to 
bring a series of partners, including the private sector, that 
have a tremendous capability and capacity against the Russians.
    Senator Blumenthal. I have been impressed when I have 
spoken to President Zelenskyy with his focus on cyber. Do you 
think that there is a greatly increased danger or risk of 
Russian cyber-attack if the counteroffensive anticipated this 
spring by Ukraine is successful?
    General Nakasone. We are watching this very carefully. This 
is the matter of vigilance that I spoke to earlier, because by 
no means is this done in terms of the Russia, Ukraine 
situation. As Russia looks at armaments coming into the 
country, as Russia looks at different support, how do they 
react?
    One of the things that we are charged with is ensuring the 
security of the U.S. critical infrastructure and key resources 
with our partners in DHS [Department of Homeland Security] and 
FBI. This is something that we are working closely every single 
day on, Senator.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you very much to you 
all and thank you for your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Thank you, gentlemen, 
excuse me, for being here today. Secretary Maier and General 
Fenton, I really do commend your submission of the joint 
statement to our Committee.
    It reflects both alignments and oversight from civilian 
policymakers, as well as our uniformed leaders, so thank you 
for submitting that.
    Secretary Maier and General Fenton, as outlined in your SOF 
vision and strategy, how does the SOF balance its various 
missions with great power, competition, counterterrorism, and 
crisis response, your three main missions? Because right now we 
are seeing great power competition increase, ever increasing 
with Iran, of course our pacing threat with China, and of 
course with the Russian incursion and war in Ukraine.
    So, how do you balance those missions, and how should that 
great power competition affect your mission?
    Mr. Maier. Thank you, Senator. I will take it from a more 
strategic level, and then ask General Fenton to speak in more 
detail. I would say, first and foremost, it is a risk 
assessment and it is weighing against the requirements.
    There is always more requirements from the Combatant 
Commanders than we can meet as a force and those numbers keep 
going up. But I think at the same time, we are very focused on 
the idea that while the strategic focus is, of course, on the 
pacing challenge of the PRC and the acute threat of Russia, we 
can't be surprised by an attack from another adversary.
    I think managing that risk is many cases what the SOF 
enterprise does very well. We are in essence the hedge against 
that risk. It is a constant effort to look for areas where we 
can innovate, to be able to do more, do things on a more 
sustainable fashion, and in some cases look for where we are 
getting what my New England friends would call a twofer, where 
we are able to do counterterrorism work and have those 
partnerships and access that then helps us also on the National 
Defense Strategy (NDS) priorities, ma'am.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, thank you. General Fenton.
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that question. I 
think to your point on balance and adjustment, that is an--I am 
constantly focused on that in the Command. As you mentioned, 
integrated deterrence, crisis response, and counterterrorism 
operations, all of those extremely prior--extremely high 
priority for the SOCOM team.
    I think on the integrated deterrence side, we take our lead 
from the Combatant Commands and their requirements for 
engagement in their regions, what they need for partnerships, 
how they need capabilities build, and Senator, in many ways our 
counterterrorism tools and the form factors that we have in 
terms of how we present forces.
    Those are equally applicable in the integrated deterrence, 
the requirements from the COCOMs, for developing a force and 
competing with adversaries such as the PRC, as they are for 
actual counterterrorism efforts that you know very well. I 
think it is a balance. Some of those tools are interchangeable.
    We can bring them across a spectrum. Very often it is about 
the relationships that then turn into things that we have seen 
in Ukraine and we just have mentioned here, SOF investment 
early, and we have seen that in many other places as well.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you. I appreciate that, and I know 
that my colleague, Senator Cotton, talked about your top line 
and strength cuts and how that would impact SOF. I am very, 
very concerned about that.
    It doesn't matter what Commander it was, whether it was 
General Tony Thomas, or Rich Clarke, or now you, General 
Fenton, I have always brought this up in discussions and every 
SOCOM Commander I have visited with has said, ma'am, we are 
going to make do. You know, we will execute the mission 
regardless of the budget. I get that.
    But I just need to stress to this Committee, how important 
it is that we continue to fund you at the appropriate levels. 
You give us the greatest bang for the buck with what you do all 
around the globe, so we won't question that.
    But I do want to dig in a little more. I, General Fenton, I 
have supported Section 1202, irregular warfare authorities. 
That was done in the Fiscal Year 2018 NDAA, and your joint 
statement describes this as essential for applying SOF 
capabilities against malign actors.
    In your personal opinion, would enabling those partner 
forces that are responding to hostilities enhance SOF's 
irregular warfare contribution to great power competition?
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you for that, and I will 
thank this Committee for the 1202 authority. That is a very 
important tool in the arsenal of the special operations tools 
that we use to either develop partnerships, build capability 
and capacity of a nation, and certainly, then move forward.
    Thank you very much for that. It is key for us to engage in 
partnerships at that level that involve irregular warfare, our 
ability to operate and buildup a capability of a nation, also 
have it able to look at any malign influences that is coming 
into it and identify those, and then address them.
    Those forces that we work with provide options for their 
national command leadership, as well as dilemmas for any 
adversary. Senator, I would say of a very small investment in 
many ways.
    Almost like your special operations team. It is a very 
small investment, but for a very high return on the dollar. So, 
I thank you very much for that and happy to talk more about it 
in closed session.
    Senator Ernst. Very good. Thank you very much, gentlemen. 
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator. Just let me recognize 
Senator Hirono and ask Senator King to preside while I attend 
the Banking Committee. Senator Hirono.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
your testimony today, and General Fenton and Secretary Maier, 
thank you for meeting with me earlier.
    General Nakasone, I have been deeply concerned by the State 
of critical infrastructure on and off military installations, 
crumbling and out-of-date infrastructure lead to delays and 
maintenance schedules, and put communities at risk for 
environmental disasters, as we have seen in Hawaii.
    But it also leaves infrastructure that is critical to our 
national security, but often as an afterthought, like 
wastewater treatment plants and pipelines, exposed to cyber-
attacks. That is why I very much appreciate President Biden's 
National Cybersecurity Strategy's focus on defending critical 
infrastructure, i.e. things like wastewater treatment plants 
and pipes.
    How would the Department of Defense collaborate with other 
Federal agencies to implement the infrastructure goals outlined 
in the President's National Cybersecurity Strategy?
    General Nakasone. Senator, from a cybersecurity 
perspective, we begin, first of all with a focus on DOD 
critical infrastructure. Two weeks ago, I was in Hawaii to see 
Admiral Aquilino and to work with him in terms of looking at 
the DOD critical infrastructure within the islands.
    We work with a series of partners when requested to provide 
that assistance. That comes as a request for assistance from 
other agencies to the Department, of which then we would be 
part of that assistance.
    Senator Hirono. Don't you think that maintaining our--the 
physical aspect of our critical infrastructure is a very 
important part of your ability to do your mission?
    General Nakasone. Certainly, we need a platform upon which 
to operate. I agree with you, Senator. What we are focused on, 
though, is obviously the cyber elements of that and then 
working again through the Department to assist and answer those 
requests.
    Senator Hirono. I think it is all we need to look at these 
things in a much more total kind of an aspect. That is why it 
was really important for Admiral Aquilino to ask for an 
assessment of the infrastructure needs across the services in 
Hawaii, but I would say across the country.
    For, again, you, General Nakasone and General Fenton, the 
Administration's NDS identifies China as the pacing challenge 
for our military, and to create enduring deterrence, it is 
critical that we remain the partner of choice in the Indo-
Pacific area, which is why I have supported additional funding 
for exercises in the region and building on long standing 
relationships, like the compacts of free association, which we 
are concluding our negotiations on.
    What opportunities have your respective Commands had for 
multilateral training last year, specifically in the Pacific 
AOR [area of responsibility], and how will you build from those 
going forward? This is for General Nakasone and Fenton.
    General Nakasone. Senator, we began with Cyber Flag, which 
is our annual keystone exercise. We invited a series of 
partners from the Pacific, that includes Korea, that includes 
Australia, that includes other nations within the Pacific that 
decided to come and exercise with us. That is one piece of it.
    The second piece is what I had spoken to previously, which 
is a State partnership program, working very, very closely with 
Hawaii, the Hawaii Army National Guard, Hawaii Air Force 
Reserve and National Guard to be able to assist them as they 
take a look at Indonesia and the Philippines, two countries 
that are partnered with the State of Hawaii. That is an area 
that I think has got tremendous potential in the coming year.
    Senator Hirono. General Fenton, I am particularly 
interested in really strengthening--I agree with your area of 
focus, General Nakasone, but also the Pacific Island nations 
such as Palau and Marshall Islands and Micronesia. Can you add 
to the response, please?
    General Fenton. Senator, I can. I will start with your 
special operations team out there through the Theater Special 
Operations elements, SOCPAC, Special Ops Command Pacific, is 
part of all the INDOPACOM exercise events.
    It is very key for us because our ability to build partners 
and allies, along with the entire INDOPACOM team for your 
special ops, is a pacing item. It is very important and 
certainly a high priority for this Nation and the Secretary of 
Defense.
    Below that we also have our own either bilateral or 
multinational special operations training events in the region 
or back in places around bases that we have in CONUS. Our 
ability to be linked up with the INDOPACOM, desired in states 
for partners and allies, and really enable that, plus what we 
bring in, it is in our nature, it is in our DNA to be a partner 
force of choice, I think is very, very impactful for Admiral 
Aquilino and INDOPACOM.
    I would say to your, partnering anywhere is important to 
us, so to the island nations, whether it be Oceania, 
Micronesia, Melanesia, Polynesia, your special ops team has 
relationships there already.
    Some of that is not in exercise, but certainly in contact 
or in deployments as we have had throughout the years, and we 
will continue to do that, and strengthen it as the INDOPACOM 
team and Commander would want.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. My time is up but I just wanted 
to mention, General Fenton, that I did appreciate that in your 
prepared remarks, you talk about diversity of thought and 
background in our people as a critical enabler of the American 
advantage. Thank you very much, and the focus on maintaining 
that kind of diversity, I completely agree with you. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Senator King. Thank all of 
you for your service. Thanks for being here today. General 
Nakasone, I like what you said in your opening, we win with 
people. I think that is everything that we do, especially our 
country.
    In your department, when you are looking to recruit people, 
obviously cyber is your purview, what other areas do you look 
for in young people? Information technology? I mean, what all 
areas do you look for in recruiting somebody for cyber?
    General Nakasone. You look for someone that can do critical 
thinking, Senator. That begins with--there are more than just 
information technology majors out there that are successful in 
cyber. There are linguists, there are mathematicians, there are 
liberal arts majors. What we are looking for is someone that 
has an interest, has a passion to do this type of work. That 
doesn't want to leave work until they are able to get the 
access that is necessary for us to have an effect.
    Senator Tuberville. Is that growing? Is--are we losing more 
to the private sector? How is that going?
    General Nakasone. First of all, on the recruiting piece, 
the services have tremendous success in recruiting cyber 
forces. They are not having a problem filling it. I think the 
challenge becomes later on is there are a number of choices 
that young people have, and so, I think we have to think a bit 
differently here.
    First of all, maybe we need to lengthen the obligation to 
become trained in cyber because it is so attractive. Second, I 
do believe that when you come to our forces, that is the only 
thing that you should do for your career.
    Much in the same way I have watched special operations 
forces be successful. When you become a special operations 
force operator, that is what you are doing all the time, and 
that is what they want to do. Our force is the same way you.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. How is retention in your 
Department of young people once they fill their duty? Do we 
have pretty good retention to re-up----
    General Nakasone. It is a mixed bag service. Senator, I can 
certainly come back to it with the numbers. But the challenge, 
of course, is that there are a lot of choices, and so that is 
what we have to make sure that we are on guard for.
    Senator Tuberville. How concerned are you about TikTok and 
the influence that they are having on Americans kids?
    General Nakasone. So TikTok concerns me for a number of 
different reasons. One is the data that they have. Second is 
the algorithm and the control, who has the algorithm. Third is 
the broad platform.
    Influence operations, as we talked about previously, it is 
not only the fact that you can influence something, but you can 
also turn off the message as well when you have such a large 
population of listeners.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, thank you for that. General, you 
don't have a recruiting problem, do you?
    General Fenton. Senator, I will start that we are recipient 
of services and I would want all to know that we are very 
integrated with their recruiting efforts, and there are some 
challenges out there for the services.
    Right now, your special operations team is not having a 
recruiting problem. We are aggregated at a very high level of 
recruitment. The Department has got a retention number, I 
think, that is one of the highest in decades, and we are right 
there along with them.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, you require the most rigorous 
training standards in military, correct?
    General Fenton. Senator, we require very high standards, 
and folks who want to come and be part of that journey, who 
have determination, grit, initiative, willingness to see 
something through, and frankly, what we really look for is 
somebody--a quiet professional. Maybe he will do this mission 
and succeed, and then get ready to do the next one.
    Senator Tuberville. Would you agree that it is also the 
most riskiest part in our military?
    General Fenton. Senator, there is a lot of our teammates 
out there across the services that do some incredible feats of 
both their mission and bravery. I would say we are one part of 
what our Department has as the most incredible military 
formation in the history of mankind.
    Senator Tuberville. That is a pretty diplomatic way to put 
it, General.
    [Laughter.]
    General Fenton. They do some really tough mission.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, very tough. You know, I think 
there is a lesson here for the rest of our military, and it is 
not everybody, but, America's youth want to serve an 
organization with purpose and patriotism. I mean, we all saw 
that growing up. In light, it seems people rise to standards 
that you set for them. I mean, I saw that in my former life of 
coaching.
    I mean, you set a standard and most of the time, if you 
push them hard enough, no matter where they won't or not, they 
will reach that standard. I want to thank for what SOCOM does 
and everything that you all stand for, because you are on the 
front lines every day and you are usually the first one to get 
there and the last one to leave. Thanks to your group, and the 
people that stand up for this country, and patriotism that they 
have for us. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. On behalf of the Chairman, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. One of the primary 
purposes of this hearing is to evaluate your Command's budget 
requests. Most Federal agencies have to balance their must 
haves against their nice to haves when it comes to requests for 
money, and they have to account for long term costs.
    For example, the maintenance of fleet vehicles that they 
want to buy, but not the Department of Defense. DOD submits its 
budget for the things it wants, and then it submits a second 
list of things that they want funded and they don't add what 
the long-term costs will be. DOD calls this second list 
unfunded priorities.
    I call it a wish list. Now, last year, some parts of DOD 
stuck to their budgets and didn't put anything on a wish list, 
but not SOCOM, nope. SOCOM got $13.2 billion in its regular 
budget, then turned around and asked for $656 million 
additionally.
    Now one of the items on SOCOM's wish list last year was 
$8.7 million to ensure that a SOCOM armament facility could 
meet blast exposure standards that protect servicemembers from 
traumatic brain injury.
    General Fenton, do you agree that if SOCOM needs funding 
for a project that will ensure that it is in compliance with 
basic safety standards and help protect workers from brain 
damage, that project should be part of the Command's budget?
    General Fenton. Senator, I put a high priority on safety.
    Senator Warren. Should it be part of your budget then?
    General Fenton. Any budget I build will reflect my 
priorities, and priority is safety, and certainly align with 
the NDS.
    Senator Warren. So that means you think that something like 
this should be in the base budget?
    General Fenton. Senator, I put a high priority on safety 
and my budget will----
    Senator Warren. But you are telling me your budget reflects 
your priorities and somehow this didn't even make it in the 
basic budget.
    Look, let me ask it this way then. This armament facility 
improvements weren't funded last year, so are you going to put 
that in your base budget this year or are you going to count on 
Congress to add extra money for it? Which it didn't do last 
year.
    General Fenton. Senator, the first thing I will do is get 
intimately familiar with the armament facility you are 
discussing right now. I am 6 months of the job. I am still 
working my way through a number of certainly locations in the 
special ops community.
    I will take that for the record and get back to you, but my 
budget will be reflective of my priorities that are aligned 
with the national defense strategy, and safety of our entire 
force is certainly a high priority for me.
    Senator Warren. Well, I appreciate that, but I just want to 
make another point for the record. I wasn't born yesterday. You 
know, I get what is happening here. SOCOM and other commands 
are gaming the system.
    They take costs that should be part of a base budget 
request's essential programs, like funding to come into 
compliance with brain injury prevention standards, and then put 
them on the wish list, daring Congress not to fund them, and 
that way they can boost their overall budget allocation.
    In January, I sent a letter to Secretary Austin, along with 
Senators Braun, Lee, and King, telling DOD not to send Congress 
any wish lists as part of this year's budget. So, General 
Fenton, this is your first time submitting a budget as the 
Commander of SOCOM.
    You will be sending it over to Congress this week, so you 
should be right on top of this. Will you pledge not to request 
any unfunded priority items on top of your annual budget 
request?
    General Fenton. Senator, I will submit the budget that 
reflects my priorities aligned against the NDS, and I will 
submit that, and any UPL [unfunded priority list], required by 
law, that reflects facts of life changes, accelerated 
capabilities, and any additional NDS initiatives----
    Senator Warren. Let me stop you right there. I just want to 
be required--you need to submit a list, you are right. That is 
required by law. But you don't need to put anything in it or 
ask for any funding from it.
    The list from European Command and Transportation Command 
were blank last year. That is, they lived within their budget. 
They did not come back for an additional bite at the apple.
    I am just asking if you will agree to do the same thing. 
That is what budgets are about. They are about making your 
priorities clear, and I want to know if you are willing to live 
within the budget you have from the DOD and not come back here 
for more.
    General Fenton. Senator, I would submit a budget that is 
aligned with my priorities and aligned with the NDS.
    Senator Warren. Is that a yes or a no?
    General Fenton. Senator, as requested by law and by law, I 
will submit a UPL. I will take into consideration any facts of 
life----
    Senator Warren. Okay. That is, frankly, that is not even a 
very artful dodge. Look, we don't have any other part of the 
Federal Government behave this way and for good reason. The 
budget process is about making tough choices and setting clear 
priorities.
    Anything in the regular budget must include an analysis of 
the long-term costs, not things that are on the wish list. I 
have a bipartisan bill to eliminate waste like this, but DOD 
could shut it down voluntarily right now, and I urge you to do 
that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. On behalf of the Chairman, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, first 
of all, thank you for your service to our country. I have to 
admit, I like seeing options in the budget. I like seeing 
alternatives. It doesn't mean that everything that is on the 
budget is necessarily going to be funded by or recommended by 
this Committee.
    But to see the other options out there, from my 
perspective, I appreciate seeing those others that sometimes 
may not make it all the way through the budget process. General 
Fenton, SOCOM has undoubtedly been reorienting from 
counterterrorism to preparation for a high end, near-peer 
fight.
    Assume a situation in which we had to respond under Article 
5 and support our NATO allies in Europe, and China concurrently 
took military action to claim Taiwan. What do you assess would 
be SOCOM's capability to support a two-theater war concurrently 
in Europe and the Pacific?
    General Fenton. Senator, what I can tell you now is that 
your special operations team is already globally deployed, 
5,000 personnel in 80 different countries at Combatant Command 
request, and at times a Departmental request.
    Our ability to address the integrated deterrence piece, 
crisis response, and counterterrorism, we were absolutely able 
to do all that. We are able to do the front-end competition, 
integrated deterrence with training, building capability 
partners and allies, and at the same time, we are also ready to 
prepare an environment for the Joint Force and prevailing 
conflict.
    Senator Rounds. I think what I am really trying to get at 
is, is it seems as though our policy here is not necessarily to 
win in two theaters. We need everything that we can do to be in 
a position to give the young men and women on the front lines 
every opportunity. We should be talking about now before it 
ever happens.
    With regard to a budget which you will prepare, and bring 
in, and lay out, would it be fair to say that there are other 
items that could be done in the very near future that could 
help us do a better job of preparing for a two front defensive 
capacity?
    General Fenton. Senator, I stay focused daily on readiness 
and training, and providing the President and Secretary a range 
of options for whatever conditions they may put in front of us.
    As you describe, some level of potential two front, or we 
stay trained and ready to provide options across a number of 
contingencies that the Department has asked us to plan for, 
along with the Combatant Commands.
    At the same time, also providing dilemmas for the 
adversaries, both either in integrated deterrence or in--high 
in conflict.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Nakasone, as we all 
know, the Cyber Mission Force comprises elements provided by 
all of the services. Is there anything we should do to better 
execute this construct?
    General Nakasone. Senator, I will be coming back to the 
Committee under 1502, the NDAA section that came out in the 
recent NDAA, to talk about the shortfalls. That comes at the 
end of March.
    That will be the first indicator that I will have to be 
able to communicate with the Committee. I suspect between that 
and section 1534, which requires me to come back at the end of 
June with the Secretary and the Chairman to talk about 
shortfalls in readiness, we will be able to outline exactly 
what we think are the areas.
    There are some, and there are areas that we can work with 
the services to improve.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Also, General, last year we 
discussed the benefit of an SPM13 and SPM21, and what they 
provided the Command to effectively conduct cyber operations, 
recognizing that they are both classified in nature, but 
basically, they have streamlined and lay out a collaborative 
effort in which to provide accelerated timeframes for cyber 
operations.
    As you look over the year since, what, if anything, has 
changed in your assessment and the impact they have had on 
cyber operations?
    General Nakasone. Senator, really very little impact. If I 
can rewind the clock just a bit, 2018, as you recall, you 
assisted with us to make sure that within the NDAA that we saw 
cyber as a traditional military activity, that was a huge step 
forward for us.
    I would also say that the policy memorandums that you 
talked about there, they are their foundation for what we do, 
any matter that is much more predictable, both for ourselves 
and for policymakers. So, we continue to work with it. We are 
continuing to move forward.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator King. Thank you, Senator. General Nakasone, on a 
scale of one to ten, where ten is essential for the national 
defense and one is nice to have, where would you rank section 
702?
    General Nakasone. Ten plus and let me talk a little bit 
about 702. Thank you, Senator, for that question. As you know, 
FAA 702 allows the U.S. intelligence community to collect the 
information and communications of foreign targets of interest 
operating outside the United States that use U.S. 
infrastructure services.
    Outside the United States, the intelligence community can 
collect against foreign targets of interest. It is critical for 
what we do. What have we seen since FAA 702 was enacted in 2008 
and reauthorized two times? It has disrupted terrorist plots. 
It has alerted us to cyber-attacks.
    Finally, it has uncovered critical infrastructure (CI) 
threats. Last year, we are able to utilize this in a series of 
ransomware, in a series of being able to uncover what 
adversaries were trying to do to us against our critical 
infrastructure. Most importantly, as General Fenton can 
testify, is what we were able to do against--an essential piece 
that we need as a Nation.
    Senator King. I think the key word is essential. Thank you, 
General. Talk to me about the relationship between electronic 
warfare and cyber. Is elect--who is in charge of electronic 
warfare. Because in a conflict, electronic warfare and cyber is 
going to be where it begins.
    General Nakasone. So traditionally the service has had 
electronic warfare capabilities that they deploy with their 
forces. I think what you speak to is a synchronization of this 
battlefield in cyberspace, which we are starting now to work 
very, very closely with the Combatant Commands.
    Senator King. I am concerned that if electronic warfare is 
scattered among the services, it is not going to have the 
attention, for example, that cyber has because we have Cyber 
Command.
    Electronic warfare is definitely going to be part of the 
conflict, whether it is jamming or disabling satellite 
communications, those kinds of things. There is no central--
what you are telling me is there is no--it is not part of your 
Command and there is no Central Command that controls it.
    General Nakasone. Is not part of my Command. But again, a 
lot of the electronic warfare that is done, is done in support 
of service requirements, and so, they have service forces that 
do this.
    I think what you are speaking to, Senator, is much in the 
same way we have tactical forces that assist the services, is 
there some type of national capability that we might need? I 
think that is something that we have to look very carefully on.
    Senator King. I worry about coordination and duplication, 
two sides of the same coin. You mentioned briefly in your 
opening statement, election interference in 2022. Is election 
interference, in terms of cyber, an ongoing problem? It hasn't 
gone away.
    General Nakasone. It hasn't gone away. This is something we 
will deal with for as long as I can look at the future and we 
see cyberspace and the ability for adversaries to influence 
what goes on.
    Senator King. Is it things like hacking and meddling with 
the system, or is it more in terms of disinformation?
    General Nakasone. What we have seen, Senator, really, when 
you talk about infrastructure, that is more of an interference 
piece. We see the influence piece much more prevalent these 
days and being able to operate outside the United States, go 
after trolls and other different actors that are trying to 
create influence.
    Senator King. These can be Russia, Iran, North Korea, 
China. They are actively involved in trying to affect and 
interfere in our politics. Is that correct?
    General Nakasone. You have hit the top four plus proxies.
    Senator King. China cyber capability, is it on the rise? 
They have been not as aggressive in terms of elections and 
interference as the Russians have been over the last 10 years 
or so. Is China starting to become more aggressive or are you 
seeing more activity, less worry about reputational risk, and 
those kinds of things?
    General Nakasone. They have a different playbook, I think, 
than the Russians, from what we have seen. The other piece is 
that as I mentioned last year, this is a very capable, capable 
force. We can cover many of the areas that I can discuss in 
closed testimony, but again, a very formidable foe.
    Senator King. The new National Cyber Strategy was just 
issued last week. Any gaps? I don't expect you to criticize it, 
but do you have any suggestions you can share with us?
    General Nakasone. I am really pleased with the National 
Cyber Strategy. I think that this is something that we have 
long wanted in terms of what is the responsibility of both the 
Government and the private sector, and being able to meld that 
is critically important for us.
    I think in the weeks to come, obviously the Department of 
Defense's cyber strategy will nest within that, and so I think 
for the first time, we will probably have, from the Government 
all the way down to our department something that is very 
effective.
    Senator King. Think of that as a coherent Government wide 
strategy.
    General Nakasone. Yes, Senator.
    Senator King. Thank you, General. Senator Budd.
    Senator Budd. Thank you all for being here. General Fenton, 
there has been a series of concerning incidents, suicides, 
murders, overdoses, drug trafficking arrests surrounding the 
special operations community at Fort Bragg.
    But I think you and Members here of the Committee, we know 
that those reports, they are not indicative of the thousands of 
incredible men and women at USASOC. I am hoping that you can 
discuss some of the issues that we are actually seeing in 
Bragg, including those, and if you can describe what SOCOM is 
doing to combat these challenges.
    I will just say that our office is here to help, and I am 
sure on both sides of the aisle, all of us are here, on your 
team in that regard.
    General Fenton. Well, Senator, thank you very much for an 
ability to comment on that, for an opportunity. That very issue 
hits at the heart of our number one priority, our people, who 
are competitive in comparative advantage and who we place a lot 
of trust and confidence in.
    This type of behavior, atypical to the 70,000 plus that are 
doing the right thing almost every single day, each and every 
day the majority are absolutely doing that, is first and 
foremost it disrespects that type of work that our SOCOM 
enterprise is known for. Second, it certainly, it is not 
behavior that is welcomed.
    I want everybody to know that is not the type of behavior 
that is welcomed in this formation and is not indicative of an 
organization in whom the Nation has placed a lot of trust. We 
hold ourselves to a higher standard.
    The Command Sergeant Major and I are--first of all, we are 
very angry when we get reports like that, and we are 
deliberately laser like focused on this. In fact, we talk about 
it as a corrosive.
    These are corrosive toward the trust and confidence that 
this Committee, the Secretary, and certainly the Nation has in 
us, and we are we are laser focused on eradicating that from 
SOCOM enterprise. One is too many, but we recognize we are not 
immune. So, we look at it through a number of lenses.
    First, it is a leader issue in preventing this, reinforcing 
the standards, the behavior of a drug, some type of other 
untoward illegal, not moral and ethical behavior. Not who we 
are, not who we want our formation. We asked our whole 
formation to be on alert and to help point that out for us and 
let us as leaders start to take action.
    Second, it is reinforcement policies that tell folks this 
in the event they just came into this formation and they didn't 
know any better, and they are at risk of doing something like 
that that disrespects decades of successful operations of many, 
many who came before and those who come after.
    Responding. I think a key piece in that one is holding 
folks accountable. You will see us do that because that sends a 
very big signal back, when appropriate, Senator, back to the 
enterprise about this behavior is absolutely not welcomed and 
not part of the SOCOM enterprise.
    You have my commitment on this, Senator. I have been--in 
about 6 months, it has been a top priority because of what it 
does, not only to the trust that this Committee and others have 
in the SOCOM team, but to our overall readiness. That readiness 
is important because it needs to be a very lethal force each 
and every time the Secretary puts us on the job.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, and you have our commitment as 
well. Secretary Maier and also General Fenton, you have talked 
a little bit about this today, but can you please expand on 
balancing the need for special operations forces to continue 
conducting counterterrorism in the Middle East and Africa 
versus the important role they play in great power competition? 
Do we have the right mix of forces to accomplish both? We will 
start with you, Secretary.
    Mr. Maier. Senator, thanks for this point. This is maybe 
among the most important points that I focus on every day, and 
I think the answer is somewhat. I think we have a very lethal, 
very capable counterterrorism force.
    What we are working to do is make that force more 
sustainable over time, because, frankly, many of the threat 
actors are still out there and we are still having to do this 
mission.
    But being able to make it more sustainable so we can draw 
on the unique capabilities of the SOF enterprise to bring that 
to the fight against a potential PRC or Russia, certainly to 
establish that integrated deterrence we seek, sir.
    Senator Budd. Thank you.
    General Fenton. Senator, I would just add that it is a 
balance, as we look at it across the enterprise with the three 
missions of the integrated deterrence and counterterrorism 
crisis response.
    As I mentioned before and will reinforce, the capabilities 
we have in the counterterrorism marine arena transfer as well 
over into our integrated deterrence approach. But at the same 
time, we know that very often they are unilaterally asked for.
    In this case in Africa, we work with AFRICOM Commander and 
our Special Operations Command Africa, our TSOC, is a way to 
address their requirements. Keep the pressure, as I mentioned 
earlier.
    One of the things at SOCOM we look at is the threat has 
been disrupted, but it persists, and our job is to remain 
vigilant. When we can set, see, and illuminate, we take action 
in concert with the Combatant Commanders and certainly under 
SecDef direction.
    Senator Budd. Thank you all very much. I have some 
questions for the record, General Nakasone, I will submit for 
you, but I yield back. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to our 
witnesses. Secretary Maier, I want to talk to you about a 
previous job you had that I still think you are very involved 
in. I understand that you previously led the DOD defeat ISIS 
task force. Is that correct?
    Mr. Maier. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. And that you continue in your role as 
Assistant Secretary of SO/LIC to focus on the anti-terrorism 
mission, including the defeat of ISIS, correct?
    General Fenton. Correct, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. That task force included international 
partners. I think there are about 80 international partners, 
and it is fair to say that in your work on that task force and 
currently it involved a lot of coordination with Iraqi defense 
forces, isn't that correct?
    Mr. Maier. It did, yes, Senator.
    Senator Kaine. I know that my colleagues might have seen 
that Secretary Austin has paid an unannounced visit to Iraq. 
That news of that broke this morning. I just want to read a 
phrase, a quote from him, the United States forces are ready to 
remain in Iraq at the invitation of the government of Iraq, he 
said this following a meeting with Prime Minister Al Sudani.
    Further, ``the United States will continue to strengthen 
and broaden our partnership in support of Iraqi security, 
stability, and sovereignty.'' Do you think the United States 
being in partnership with Iraq for their stability and 
sovereignty, for their own sake and for the region, is an 
important priority?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, yes, I do, and I think it is critically 
important to managing a very challenging political situation, 
too, with obviously the Iranian and proxy threats there as 
well, sir.
    Senator Kaine. Just for my colleagues, we have two war 
authorizations against the government of Iraq, our strategic 
partner who Secretary Austin is visiting today. We have 2,500 
American troops in Iraq at the Iraqi Government's request. One 
of the war authorizations was passed in 1991. It is 32 years 
old.
    The other war authorization was passed in the fall of 2002. 
The invasion of Iraq began on March 19, 2003, 20 years ago next 
week. I have a proposal that is very bipartisan, 12 Democrats 
and 12 Republicans have joined together to urge Congress to 
repeal the two Iraq war authorizations.
    This is going to be marked up in the Foreign Relations 
Committee likely in the next few days, and hopefully will be on 
the floor for a vote soon, coincident in timing with the 20th 
anniversary of the Iraq invasion.
    I just wanted to bring it to the attention of my 
colleagues. I urge that we repeal the Iraq war authorizations 
to recognize reality, an enemy that we were trying to push out 
of Kuwait in 1991, an enemy whose government we wanted to 
topple in 2002, is no longer an enemy.
    They are a security partner of importance right now. 
Second, Congress should exercise our Article 1 authority over 
war, peace, and diplomacy and not allow it to be on autopilot. 
Third, an authorization that is no longer necessary becomes 
sort of a zombie authorization that can be grabbed and used for 
mischievous purposes if we are not careful.
    Fourth, I even think we send a powerful message not just to 
allies and strategic partners, we even send a message to 
adversaries that you may be our adversary today, Iraq once was, 
but the United States specializes over time in turning 
adversaries into allies. Look at Japan, look at Germany, look 
at other nations.
    We hold that hope out to everyone that we will defeat you 
should we need to, but we also hold out an olive branch and 
look for an opportunity to beat a sword into a plowshare and 
turn an adversary into a partner.
    The proposal that I have, Mr. Chairman, that I hope will be 
voted on in the floor this month has the support of the 
Administration, and they have indicated that neither of the two 
authorizations are necessary for any current U.S. military 
operation, and thus their repeal will not endanger in any way 
the security of the United States or Americans anywhere in the 
world.
    I would just urge my colleagues possibly to take a look at 
this once the Foreign Relations Committee acts, because I 
believe we will be taking this matter up on the floor very 
soon. With that, Mr. Chair, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Senator Mullin, 
please.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Fenton, 
can you explain to us, and I know you have been asked this 
question before, but I just want it for context again, the 
value of the SOF community.
    General Fenton. Senator, I think the value of the SOF 
community transcends all three mission areas that we have right 
now. Our integrated deterrence approach, which the previous was 
strategic competition the days before the tragic events of 9/
11, when we were developing partners and allies, competing for 
relationships, building partners of force--of choice, and in 
many places with our security cooperation approach, actually 
strengthening nations across the globe. I think that is called 
for even more now.
    As we come forward with 20 years of hard-earned combat 
credibility, a technology fluence, and an incredible formation. 
The SOF formation is a formation that knows the hard skill. It 
knows technology.
    It deploys around the world on a moment's notice, and in 
that case, all that value transitions over to integrated 
deterrence. On the counterterrorism side, the center for 20 
plus years. In places all over the world, your special 
operations command team, along with the rest of our military 
interagency partners, I think brought immense value to this 
Nation, disrupting degrading terrorist networks globally and 
figures, the names that many folks know here are no longer and 
have been removed from the battlefield and are no longer a 
threat to this Nation.
    On crisis response, our ability at SOCOM to, within a very 
short notice, deploy forces and arrive in a country and either 
safeguard our U.S. diplomats, citizens, or rescue them if that 
is indeed the task, and then bring home safely. I think it is 
all part of this special Operations command value proposition.
    I would add a very small investment on the budget that we 
are very grateful for, and I think a very high return on 
investment across all those and many more that in the interest 
of time, I can followup with you in a classified session.
    Senator Mullin. Appreciate it. One last quick question for 
you, and then if you could be brief on it, I would like to--you 
just kind of explain the partnerships that we have with our 
allies in Europe and how that is benefiting us, and I would say 
in the with Russia's illegal invasion of Ukraine.
    General Fenton. Senator, I go back to a very specific part 
here of the very high value proposition I think your special 
operations teams bring. It started with a relationship, our 
ability in small teams to be with Ukrainians in the mid-90's 
developed a level of trust. Speed of trust is important in 
these, as you know very well.
    Then in 2014 began in earnest a level of training that was 
about resistance and resilience, and those look like skills of 
developing a military--Ukrainian special operations that has an 
NCO corps, that knows about mission command, has initiative, 
and frankly has been, as I have seen and certainly talk a lot 
about, very valuable to the Ukrainian military effort writ 
large. I think we have also had the ability to learn from them.
    They have got an incredible way that they take equipment 
off the battlefield and re-engineer it. That is really great 
for us because we learn as much from our partners as I hope 
they do from us.
    I think in a very small way, that ability for the Ukrainian 
SOF and the Ukrainian military to resist, and now absolutely 
really fight against this aggression, and has paid dividends. 
Started with a high investment with the special operations 
team.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you so much. Mr. Chairman, I am going 
to kind of divvy here a little bit. General Nakasone and I know 
each other, and I just want to raise a point here.
    The General is over a program that is very forward leaning, 
and I would ask that we would--we would ask the Senate Intel 
and the House Intel to brief us on a program that General 
Nakasone is over. It would reflect, in my opinion, his complete 
incompetence in his ability to lead this program.
    I think it is important when we are talking about a budget 
that he is over, that it is important for us to know that we 
have leadership there that we can rely on to make sure the 
dollars are protected and the investment has a return. I think 
before we can do that, we actually need to know what has 
happened.
    I was involved in a briefing when I was on the Intel 
Committee that turned into a hearing, and I think it is 
imperative for us to know the General's risk adverse approach 
to a program that needs to be extremely proactive.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Mullin. Your comments are 
noted and we will followup.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. At this point, let me recognize Senator 
Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman 
Nakasone, let me just say I am sorry because I have all the 
confidence in the world in you and we have been working very 
close together, and I am chairman of the Cyber Committee and 
also along with Mike, Senator Mike Rounds.
    We both appreciate your service, and we are looking forward 
to any hearing you want to have. I can tell you, you have the 
support of a bipartisan group here, which is very, very deep.
    Next of all, General Fenton, I would like to ask you a 
question, based on the publishing of the 2019 SecDef, DOD, 
CYBERCOM Operations Forces Memo, which directed the 
organization of the DOD Cyber Operation Forces, there has been 
substantial appropriation development of CYBERCOM organization 
and capabilities.
    The question is what is the status of the current Special 
Operations Forces program developed within SOCOM, and what 
effort is needed in--to keep pace with CYBERCOM?
    General Fenton. Senator. I will start by, we have got a 
very close relationship with General Nakasone and CYBERCOM, and 
it has progressed into an area that we now call a capability of 
SOF space, cyber triad.
    At its heart, it is the ability to converge those 
capabilities, the SOF placement access, the cyber work, and 
certainly the space work in places for integrated deterrence 
effects that we would otherwise not get if we were doing it 
individually, and bring certainly a bigger sum back to not only 
the mission but to any partner we are working with.
    That has been an incredible effort alongside General 
Nakasone's team. We are very grateful for that, and also, in 
the SPACECOM arena. We are moving that forward with exercises, 
experimentation, a number of senior leader huddles, and I think 
that you will see that progress, Senator. We would be happy to 
talk about the progress.
    Senator Manchin. My final question is for all three of you, 
and I will start with Secretary Maier, General Nakasone, and 
then General Fenton, what can we do to help as Congress? What 
would be the greatest help we could be to you, all of us in the 
Senate and our Congress--or our cohorts over on the side, the 
other side of the House. That would be the greatest--and I 
think, if I am asking, the having a budget done on time, what 
does that mean for you?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, thanks for the question. I think we 
will probably all say that having a budget that is consistent, 
predictable, and----
    Senator Manchin. Does it save you time? Does it save your 
money?
    Mr. Maier. It saves this time. It saves us money. It adds 
predictability. It allows us to put things on contract. 
Frankly, for----
    Senator Manchin. We are talking September 30th.
    Mr. Maier. Yes, sir. I think from the perspective of 
enterprise and the special operations enterprise, it is going 
through transition. The ability to modernize is hurt by the 
fact that the budgets don't come predictably. So that is really 
where sometimes it comes home to roost, and it is----
    Senator Manchin. So, a budget on time would be a pretty 
high priority?
    Mr. Maier. Yes, sir.
    Senator Manchin. General Nakasone.
    General Nakasone. It is the same thing, Senator. It is on 
time. It really does----
    Senator Manchin. Does it reduce your cost?
    General Nakasone. It is predictability. It is being able to 
actually spend the money when it is actually due as opposed to 
a shortened period of time. We also have new starts that will 
not be delayed, would actually be able to get on. So, we would 
welcome it.
    Senator Manchin. When was the last time that you had a 
predictable budget on time?
    General Nakasone. Not since I have been the Commander.
    Senator Manchin. General Fenton.
    General Fenton. Senator, I will start first by, you already 
help in many ways with a number of the tools that we use at 
SOCOM, 33, 1202, now 127. But to your point on the budget, I 
will echo my colleagues here at the table, predictable, 
reliable, on time, and then I will just add that continuing 
resolutions (CRs) hurt.
    In SOCOM, our priority, number three, is transform, and we 
think of ourselves as a pathfinder and a trailblazer. We need 
new capabilities to not only surpass adversaries, but always to 
be dominant.
    That is not possible with new capabilities and new 
contracts with a CR. It is also we work with a lot of littles, 
little companies that want business with Special Ops Command 
because they know we are transformative, and that we are a 
trailblazer for the Department.
    They can't wait forever to get their money, and many of 
them aren't there anymore as a result of--my sense is a number 
of CRs from----
    Senator Manchin. This makes--does this sound reasonable to 
you all that I have been told by some retired Admirals and 
Generals that if we did our budget on time now, by the 85 
budget, the budget law that we had--the President is supposed 
to have his budget submitted by the 1st of February, and here 
we are.
    The House and the Senate are supposed to have theirs by 
April the 1st and reconcile by April the 15th, and then we are 
supposed to have a budget completed by September 30th. I have 
been told if all that happened, that the military could have a 
savings anywhere between 5 to 10 percent on today's cost.
    You are talking $40 to $80 billion. Does that sound 
reasonable? That is, I mean, it is tremendous, and it is that 
type of effect--I don't know if you all looked at and evaluated 
it for per area of DOD. Secretary, do you have anything on 
that, or if you looked at it under those conditions, because 
the person never hesitated when they told me this.
    Mr. Maier. Senator, I can't account for that exact measure. 
I can tell you that it is more costly, and as I think my 
colleagues and I have indicated, there is a risk to it as well. 
That it is not only financial, it is the ability to execute and 
operate with some degree of predictability, which of course, 
the Nation looks at us to do.
    Senator Manchin. Well, I know that we have many examples 
that you can look back on and find out when we did do one on 
time and everything, but if you could and give us an accurate 
account or close as accurate as you can be, what would be the 
savings?
    Because we are in a position now, we are having debates and 
discussing, we can do things, we can change this year, change 
our ways and not commit the sins of the past. I am hoping we 
can do that.
    It has a tremendous effect on our military, which is what 
we are depending. First of all, thank all of you, and all of 
you setting there, for your service. I appreciate it more than 
you know, and again, I want to thank you all. I yield my time 
back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Fenton, I 
appreciate the time we had to spend together and talk about 
some of the threats around the world, and your role and your 
team's role in combating those threats and getting ahead of 
those threats. To me, as I mentioned, there is no greater 
threat than China on the world stage.
    In this great powers era that we have been discussing, the 
alliances in the Indo-Pacific, to me, are critical. You have 
mentioned it in my meeting with you. We have heard about that 
today. General Nakasone had mentioned Indonesia and the 
Philippines. We have talked about the Philippines.
    What specifically would you like to see this Committee 
address as we move forward in this Congress to do everything, 
we can put ourselves in the best position to continue to 
cultivate and support those alliances?
    General Fenton. Senator, first, thanks for the session with 
you the other day. I appreciate your time. I know how busy you 
are. I would comment on the extreme importance in the power of 
the partners and allies.
    You and I spoke quite a bit about it, and in the Indo-
Pacific, but certainly globally, as the Secretary has discussed 
with the Department and in many ways is doing that with NATO's 
alliance, vis-a-vis the Ukraine, and all the work that has gone 
into the entire whole-of-government team to make that stronger 
than ever, is a signal that aggression by adversaries like 
Russia will not be tolerated.
    I think it is just important--just as important as we 
discussed in the Indo-Pacific. We have got a number of 
bilateral treaty allies out there. They are extremely important 
partners, as INDOPACOM goes ahead on its daily and certainly 
its overall mission.
    In particular for the special operations team, we actually 
like to think that we are a premier partner force. We have 
longstanding ties throughout the region that we look to 
continue to strengthen and maintain.
    We certainly each and every day don't take them for 
granted, and we look to reinforce them. I think that is 
important that that continues to grow. I think it is--as you 
think about this, Senator, it is about the growth of partners 
and allies, and the power in that. Not only for the rules-based 
order, but probably for the vision of where we go the next 3 to 
5, even 10 years.
    I would just recommend that it is a continue to focus on 
partners and allies, the power that comes with that, the 
partnering, the burden sharing, and certainly the capability 
grows--growth that we have all experienced in that. I could 
talk certainly more----
    Senator Schmitt. Well, and I don't--listen, I don't want 
you to--I want to give you the time to be able to get back to 
my office with this, because this is something that to me is of 
paramount importance, particularly in the Indo-Pacific theater 
and will be a long-term commitment on my end.
    as you work through--and by the way, you won't be the only 
one I am asking this question that comes before the Committee 
of what can we do, because I do think that is just critical, 
and in doing everything we can to guard against China's global 
domination ambition, which has been stated.
    I want to work with you on that, and I guess, General 
Nakasone, if I could ask you this, and to the extent that you 
can share, what you can share with this Committee in the open 
setting here, just where we are at with China's capabilities, 
whether it is on cyber or artificial intelligence (AI), our 
defensive capabilities versus their offensive capabilities. 
This will be an ongoing discussion. But in the open setting, I 
certainly wanted to ask you about that.
    General Nakasone. Senator, they are a near, peer threat. 
They are very good. They have been able over the period of 2 
decades to develop not only their military but also their 
industrial base.
    As we look to the future, those capacity and capabilities, 
whether or not it is in artificial intelligence, machine 
learning. Whether or not it is looking at the capacity to grow 
cyber forces, they are very good, but they are not, they are 
not, first of all, as good as us and second, they are not ten 
feet tall.
    We can get in closed session, more in terms of some 
thoughts on this, but I did want to make sure I hit that.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I will just close with this. I agree 
with the concerns that have been raised by other Committee 
Members and you with TikTok. To me, TikTok is a Chinese AI 
weapon aimed directly at the United States of America, and we 
better take it seriously, so, among other things. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Schmitt. Senator 
Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just have to 
say, I had a wonderful working relationship with Senator Blunt, 
who has recently retired. I would have to say, Senator Schmitt, 
I agree with you with your concerns on the Indo-Pacific region. 
In fact, my question, gentlemen, is going to followup a little 
bit on my colleague's line of questioning.
    But I did want to start with saying that Mr. Assistant 
Secretary and General Fenton, your written testimony references 
the first SOF truth, humans are more important than hardware, 
and I couldn't agree with this more.
    Two weeks ago, I led a Congressional Delegation (CODEL) to 
Japan and Indonesia. My interactions on that trip reinforced 
just how important those alliances and partnerships are. We 
must not forget that human ties are the United States strategic 
advantage in the Indo-Pacific region, and these human 
relationships are critical to countering malign Chinese 
Communist Party (CCP) activity in that region.
    General Fenton, I appreciated our discussion last week. Can 
you please elaborate furthermore in that questioning line, and 
on an unclassified level, on how the SOF community fosters 
close relationships with our allies and partners?
    Specifically, how does Special Operations Command's ongoing 
work with other nations, from the smallest unit operations all 
the way up through your leadership-to-leadership relationships 
with military leaders in some of these countries, reinforce our 
campaign plans in Southeast Asia?
    General Fenton. Senator, thank you. I really appreciated 
our discussion as well, and I appreciate your reference in 
that. I will start with just emphasizing that partners and 
allies are absolutely a key focus for the Department, the 
Secretary, and for your Special Operations Command team.
    I put that in contrast to what China's focus may be in 
terms of clients or customers. We are about partnerships, we 
are about friendships, we are about the power of many to make 
us all stronger. I think we see that in the way that we 
approach, first, your special operations team.
    As you mentioned, we start very much from a perspective of, 
it is in our training and in our schoolhouses to work through 
these because we recognize it is the speed of trust. It is the 
speed of a relationships, in many ways with our partners and 
teammates around the world. You will see us at a very tactical 
level.
    I won't mention any countries, and certainly, Senator, I 
could talk more in a closed session. You will see us at a 
tactical level doing events like training, shooting, jumping, 
driving, and building capabilities that use the tools that this 
Committee has honored us with.
    I think at an organizational level, we will be showing 
folks how we have grown ourselves in the 20 plus years of 
combat, what it meant to weave in technology, how we understand 
our gathering of intelligence, how we understand mission type 
orders.
    I think at the institutional level, what you will see your 
special operations team doing in any of the COCOMs is work with 
the COCOMs to ensure that the Nation we have a relationship 
with understands the special operations forces and what they 
can do, the types of missions, and if I may be the return on 
investment and the value that they will bring that nation in a 
way that I believe we certainly bring to this Nation.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, General. Turning now to 
General Nakasone. General, I just want to say I, too, have 
complete trust in your ability to do your job.
    In fact, your forward leaning posture allowed us to keep 
tabs on the well-being of my constituent, who was held in 
Haqqani network hands and also in his safe return. So, thank 
you very much for the work of you and your subordinates in 
that. I want to talk about the cyber domain.
    Of course, it has no boundaries. I included legislation in 
Fiscal Year 2021 NDAA authorizing DOD to establish a pilot 
program to enhance the cybersecurity of our allies, and in 
particular the readiness of military forces of Vietnam, 
Thailand, and Indonesia. This year I plan to expand that 
program to include Malaysia and the Philippines.
    Could you elaborate on specifically why the cybersecurity 
of our allies and partners is important for U.S. overall, U.S. 
national security? If possible, can you comment on the value of 
direct engagement with our overseas partners to help build 
their cyber skills, and how that is important for our own 
national security?
    General Nakasone. Certainly, Senator. I think that there is 
no better example than Ukraine. We have watched this now for 
over a year. We are a very capable partner that was able to 
raise their level of cybersecurity, was able to fend off a much 
larger foe.
    But it is not only that, it is also the ability for us to 
share information with that partner. We want to be able to 
share our information in the future. Being able to share 
information in cyberspace means that you have to have an 
assurance that the partner can secure your information.
    That is a critical piece, and I know that the work that you 
have done to drive that type of cybersecurity, both in the 
element of the bar has to go higher for our partners to 
operate. Also, we have to have the confidence that we share 
information, that our information is between us and that 
partner.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I yield back, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Duckworth. 
Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. I want to thank each of 
you for being here. General Nakasone, first, let's talk about 
China. The--is there anything that China sells us? We have 
cranes now at the Port Miami that they are worried that there 
was the ability for China to surveil what we are doing at our 
ports.
    You look at what some of my colleagues have talked about, 
the risk of TikTok. Is there anything that China sells in this 
country that you don't believe creates a potential 
cybersecurity risk? What would it be, if they could sell us 
anything that wouldn't?
    General Nakasone. Senator, certainly you point to the 
challenge of cyber, which is a huge attack surface, right. 
Whether or not you trade in some type of good or you trade in 
some type of commodity, there is always an opportunity.
    I think this points to the challenge that we have to be 
able to address, which is supply chain. To make sure that the 
elements of the supply chain that we operate, particularly 
within the Department of Defense, are secure.
    Senator Scott. Do you think that Americans should have--do 
you think it puts America at risk if Americans have TikTok on 
their phone?
    General Nakasone. My concern with TikTok, Senator, really 
is from two pieces. One is the fact that there is tremendous 
amount of data and understanding where your data is, is 
critical, I think.
    The second piece is the opportunity for influence. This is 
a means upon which you receive information or don't receive 
information. That is where I always look at that in terms of 
being able to measure that risk.
    Senator Scott. If you were running a, let's say one of our 
electrical grids in the country, if you were responsible, 
knowing now what you know in the job that you have now, would 
you allow--would you buy anything from China?
    Would you allow the employees have TikTok? Would you any 
business? Would you buy DJI drones? Would you do anything 
knowing what you now know in this job?
    General Nakasone. Senator, very difficult in the scenario 
that you point to our picture to imagine that you can really do 
that. I mean, there is so much of what we do is based upon 
international trade, and China has the corner on some things.
    I think what I would do is ensure that the areas that are 
most sensitive to our operation are well censored, and I have 
the confidence that what is being utilized there, I understand 
where that information may be going.
    Senator Scott. In a world where there was an alternative to 
every Chinese product and app and service out there, if there 
was an American alternative or American ally alternative to 
them, would you, at that point if you running one of these 
companies, would you guarantee that your company did no 
business with China if there was a good alternative? Would you 
think the same thing about our Government, knowing what you 
know?
    General Nakasone. So again, coming back as a prospective, 
perhaps future business owner, I would take a very, very hard 
look of anything that was coming from an adversarial nation and 
being able to understand that.
    Senator Scott. General Fenton, can you talk about what 
other things you are doing to prepare your forces to deal with 
China, and where are they beating us, and where--and what do we 
need to do more and better, knowing that China doesn't like our 
way of life and wants to demolish our way of life?
    General Fenton. Senator, I think the very first thing we 
are doing in Special Operations Command is focus the formation 
on the adversaries of China and Russia, but in particular 
China's. Reordering the formation in terms of focus.
    There are a number of elements in our formation that 
understand the PRC and what they have been doing for years 
pretty well. But there is work that we have got to do to 
certainly bring in additional portions of the formation along. 
We do much of that through our education process in our 
schoolhouses that--all the components, our Army, Navy, Air 
Force, and Marine components.
    Frankly, at our joint Special Operations university, 
understanding of the PRC and the PRC way of warfare. We knew 
that very well when we fought the ISIS threat. We understood 
how they were going to wage war, and now that is the 
understanding of the PRC.
    Second, I would say is being present in any region and 
trying to understand their malign activities. As I mentioned 
before, diplomatic pressure from the Chinese--from the PRC, 
economic coercion from the PRC creates clients and customers. 
We are out there to build partners and allies.
    I think that also allows us to get a sense of what PRC's 
malign activities are globally, and then on any given transfer, 
Senator, we are providing ranges of options for the Combatant 
Commanders and certainly for the Secretary to address either in 
deterrence, preparing, and if needed to prevail.
    You have got the best special operations team in the world 
to do that, and that same time, we are presenting a lot of 
dilemmas to the adversary, the PRC.
    Senator Scott. Thank each of you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator Rosen, 
please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed. I really 
appreciate you holding this hearing. I would like to thank each 
one of the witnesses for being here and, of course, for 
everyone's service to our Nation. General Nakasone, I have 
quite a few questions for you on our cyber workforce and Nevada 
National Guard.
    But I am going to get into cyber workforce first because 
the National Cybersecurity Strategy, which was released just 
last week, it calls for expanding the national cyber workforce. 
I know it is critical we continue to invest in innovative, 
nontraditional cyber capabilities and in talent to support the 
Department of Defense cyber mission requirements.
    In last year's NDAA, as reported out of this Committee, it 
included my Civilian Cyber Reserve Act, bipartisan legislation 
I introduced with Senator Blackburn to create a civilian cyber 
reserve that ensures additional cyber capacity for CYBERCOM in 
greatest--times of greatest need.
    So, this year, of course, I look forward to working with 
the chairman to ensure this critically important legislation 
will be included in the final conference. But I was hoping, 
General, that you could discuss the value of reserve models, 
including the value of a potential civilian cybersecurity 
reserve to support your cyberspace operations.
    General Nakasone. Senator, first of all, thank you for your 
support of U.S. Cyber Command, and in general, the work that we 
do in cyberspace. It begins with humans.
    This idea of being able to have many more analysts, many 
more operators, many more developers is something that is part 
and parcel to our success in the future. It is not only with 
the civilian workforce that you have championed, but it is also 
this idea of how do you bring a larger base to bear?
    How do we bring it from K through 12 that makes people very 
interested that science, technology, engineering, mathematics 
is the way of the future, and girls that code all these things 
that will provide a greater base for us to draw from are really 
important to us.
    Senator Rosen. Well, you are speaking my language. As a 
former software developer, now co-founder of the Women in STEM 
Caucus, and trying to promote STEM education all the time, this 
is music to my ears.
    Of course, in fiscal year 2021, the NDAA required the 
Department of Defense to submit to Congress an evaluation of 
the reserve models to support these cyberspace operations, and 
the report was never submitted.
    So could you update me on the status of the report and also 
the requirement I added in the fiscal year 2023 bill to have 
DOD enter into an agreement to assess the benefits of such a 
program. I would really like to see us be able to move forward 
on this.
    General Nakasone. Senator, if I might take that for the 
record, just to make sure I can leverage the Department of 
Defense for that.
    Senator Rosen. That would be perfect. I have some other 
questions, too, on auspices--excuse me, specifically for 
Nevada's National Guard. But, the National Cybersecurity 
Strategy rightly identifies a strengthening our international 
partner capacity. It is a pillar of our collective 
cybersecurity, our hunt forward operations in Ukraine in 
particular.
    It really shows us the value of international partnerships. 
I have advocated for more funding for hunt forward as we 
identify more vulnerabilities, and so, our Nevada National 
Guard. We have three partner nations as a National Guard State 
Partnership Program, Fiji, Tonga, and Samoa.
    How is the program promoting cyber partnerships with our 
allies and partners, and what challenges do you see--are you 
facing building these and where can we create a better strategy 
for this command?
    General Nakasone. First of all, I see very, very few--very, 
very few limitations on what we need to do in the future. The 
countries that you talk about there in the Southwest Pacific, 
we have worked very closely with our partners in Australia to 
look at how do we kind of incorporate all of them as we 
understand their needs, their requirements, their 
vulnerabilities, and then be able to assist them. A very, very 
small amount of money in a very, very small amount of time 
yields tremendous results, in my opinion.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, I agree. I want to tell you that I am 
also very excited because Department of Homeland Security 
recently announced another cyber strategy as it is going to 
expand the Abraham Accords collaboration among the United 
States, Israel, UAE, Bahrain, and Morocco to include 
cybersecurity.
    As you work to promote multilateral partnerships between 
the Abraham Accords countries, how do you think this is going 
to help you with that?
    General Nakasone. Well, just think about hunt forward 
operations. We began those in 2018. Since 2018, 47 different 
missions, 22 countries, 70 different networks.
    When we take a look at what has been able to be done--what 
we have been able to do is the fact that, one, it builds 
tremendous confidence between nations, right. When the United 
States deploys a hunt forward team to country x, country x 
knows that the United States cares, and it is for us being able 
to work with a partner to understand their requirements, and 
also build a higher bar of cybersecurity.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you for being there. We have 
heard that from our allies and partners. It means a lot when 
you are there. You show up and we work in partnership with 
others to help potentiate what they are doing to protect 
themselves. Thank you again. My time is up, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. The open portion 
of the hearing has concluded. For the benefit of my colleagues 
who might be listening, we have two votes. One is already 
underway.
    We will adjourn here and convene our closed session, 
SBC217, immediately following this. I urge my colleagues to 
vote and then join us. I would also like to commend the panel 
for their excellent testimony--our excellent testimony.
    Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appreciate it 
very much. General Fenton and Mr. Maier, I know this has been 
touched on, but it is an issue that I think is really 
important.
    How is the shift going from your rightful and exceptional 
focus on CT operations, primarily in the CENTCOM AOR, to the 
INDOPACOM region as our pacing threat? What is the kind of 
orientation of the strategy in that region? What I mean by that 
is, the CT, SOCOM focus post 9/11 was very kinetic, which our 
guys did an incredible job at. But the INDOPACOM strategy and 
focus is not kinetic, at least not now. We all hope it is never 
going to be kinetic.
    It is a very different mission set. I don't know if that 
impacts morale. It is not as--well, I would like both of you to 
talk about that, because I have been concerned that it has been 
hard. You have done such a good job in that AOR, and that AOR 
is still important.
    The issue of making sure that violent extremist 
organizations (VEOs) do not threaten our Nation, particularly 
with weapons of mass destruction, is still critical. But the 
pacing threat is China. Every day we see something.
    You saw the foreign minister of China yesterday publicly 
saying, hey, we are on a collision course toward war. We don't 
want that, but we better well be ready for it. Your operators 
are the best in the world.
    There are no Chinese forces that can hold a candle to the 
United States Special Operations enterprise, not even close. 
So, it is a giant strategic advantage we have over them. I want 
them to fear the hell out of it. So, what are we doing and how 
is that shift going?
    Mr. Maier. Senator, thanks for the question. Maybe I will 
start and then General Fenton can address some of the issues 
that are core to his force here.
    I would say that the shift is very much underway, but I 
think it is a question of how do we maintain the 
counterterrorism capabilities, because if you look at the maps, 
sir, of course, many of the areas that were problems continue 
to be problems.
    We are we are having to manage that risk. At the same time, 
we are doing, as you correctly said, sir, a different mission 
in the Indo-Pacific. I think the idea that we are not very 
kinetic or not kinetic at all in the Indo-Pacific is not 
necessarily something that means that the same kind of SOF 
skills are not relevant.
    As we think of things like placement and access, and really 
relying on partners sometimes for that placement and access, 
but also the ability to work unilaterally go to places, that 
last tactical mile that at times only U.S. Special Operations 
can do, that is still relevant in the Indo-Pacific, even if the 
finish is not a kinetic or lethal finish.
    I think, second Senator, I would highlight the by with and 
through approach, really working through partners, that has 
really been the hallmark of the counterterrorism efforts, 
especially the last decade or so, is very, very relevant again 
in the Indo-Pacific because we want our partners to be in the 
lead.
    But we have demonstrated in places like Ukraine we can do 
that from a distance. So, it doesn't have to be the hand on the 
shoulder that we are always--we have been familiar with in the 
past.
    I think these fundamental tools and the approaches we have 
used are still very relevant in the Indo-Pacific, sir.
    Senator Sullivan. General Fenton, how is the reorientation 
of the INDOPACOM theater going?
    General Fenton. Senator, I am going to start by agreeing 
with you that your special operations formation is the best, 
the very best in the history of mankind.
    Senator Sullivan. Chinese don't have anything remotely 
close to it, and they know that. We know that.
    General Fenton. I agree with that, and the same thing with 
Russia and any other adversary out there. That's right. The 
other part is that we exist and included with the entirety of 
the U.S. military, and the CYBERCOM team is exactly the best, 
and we have all that. I think, and I would want everybody that 
wishes this Nation harm, and if there is an adversary out 
there, China----
    Senator Sullivan. I just want INDOPACOM theater to know 
that we are out there too, right.
    General Fenton. Yes, sir.
    Senator Sullivan. I sure I want the Chinese to wake up 
thinking they got Navy SEALs all over them, every day.
    General Fenton. Yes, sir, and your special operations team 
is out there and in a very sustainable, durable way, in a 
concert with Admiral Aquilino's requirements. I would tell you 
that we can handle these challenges.
    I will start by saying special operations really never left 
strategic competition and great deterrence. You and I talked 
about this a Senator, I think last year where I was the special 
ops commander responsible in the Pacific for the special 
operations forces that both did counterterrorism with one 
partner that we can I can talk more in a closed session about 
but competed with the PRC all day long by building 
partnerships, relationships, and capability.
    That continues. At the same time, we will not take our eye 
off the persistent threat of global terrorism, and so, we will 
still handle the CT mission. There will be a number of forces 
that have the CT mission each and everyday hunting anybody that 
wishes harm to this Nation but can slide over to present some 
level of dilemma to an adversary in an integrated deterrence 
arena.
    I would just add much of our counterterrorism experience is 
desired by these partners and nations as we go forward to train 
and becomes a key part of the partnership. So, Senator, I would 
just end with, your SOCOM team is absolutely ready to handle 
that challenge. I think there is a large portion of our force 
that is excited about this. They want to do what the Nation 
needs.
    Right now, the Nation needs us to get very involved, and we 
are, and deter PRC, and certainly to address aggression by the 
Russians. They want to be knee deep in it. You know, your 
special operations team will, and at the same time handle the 
counterterrorism mission and any crisis response mission where 
a U.S. citizen or a diplomat needed to be safeguarded or 
rescued.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I 
just want to say to General Nakasone, no question. I just think 
you are--publicly because a lot of what you do is not public. I 
think you and your team are doing an exceptional job, General. 
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. The open 
session has concluded again. We have two votes. I would urge my 
colleagues to go to the first vote. We will resume immediately 
in SVBC17 for the closed session, and to each of you gentlemen, 
thank you for your testimony.
    General Fenton, Secretary Maier, General Nakasone, let me 
tell you, all have been extremely diligent, dedicated and 
offered superb service to this Nation over many years, and we 
are in your debt. Thank you all very much for that. I will 
adjourn the open hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 11:55 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                         information operations
    1. Senator Shaheen. General Fenton and General Nakasone, Russia 
conducts malicious information operations around the world and 
particularly in the context of the war in Ukraine. As the Department of 
Defense works across the interagency to counter Russian information 
operations, how can the United States improve its response time to 
malign information operations?
    General Fenton. The U.S. requires a unified strategic communication 
plan to protect United States, Allies, and Partners, while globally 
engaging against Russian malign influence operations. Additionally, the 
Department will require investment in artificial intelligence and 
machine learning capabilities to detect Russian malign influence 
messaging, and conduct rapid counter-messaging. We need to increase our 
investments in Information Operations Forces to include Psychological 
Operations, Cyber, Space, Electronic Warfare, Civil Affairs, Public 
Affairs, and others to provide the Joint Force the right personnel and 
capabilities at the right levels to engage against this and other 
National Defense Strategy (NDS) challenges.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM, by executing its operational approach 
of persistent engagement, aims to anticipate and preclude malign 
activity rather than responding after the fact. By actively 
campaigning, our cyberspace forces persistently counter malicious 
activity to include malign influence operations. Operating continuously 
below armed conflict denies initiative to adversaries; generates 
insight, opportunities, and options that preclude adversary freedom of 
maneuver; and defends DOD information networks, the defense industrial 
base and indirectly other elements of U.S. critical infrastructure.

    2. Senator Shaheen. General Fenton and General Nakasone, what risks 
does a delayed response time to malign information operations pose to 
U.S. national security?
    General Fenton. As we faced Violent Extremist Organizations (VEO) 
threats over the past 20 years, the U.S. Government had a unified plan 
against VEO malign information operations. The risk of a disjointed, 
delayed, or nascent response cedes the information space to our 
adversary. A proactive stance under a unified strategic communication 
plan which empowers the various departments to take timely action is 
required to reduce our adversary's ability to own the narrative. This 
is the most effective way to reduce United States risk, while 
undercutting Russian malign information and influence operations.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM conducts military cyberspace 
operations and presents options to the Secretary of Defense and the 
President. The timing of a possible response is a decision for U.S. 
policy/decisionmakers.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    3. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nakasone, do you agree that 
if funding is needed for a project, it should be a part of the command/
service budget?
    General Fenton. Yes, I agree, and the Command's most critical 
requirements are resourced in the Command's Fiscal Year 2024 
President's Budget Request. USSOCOM's fiscal year 2024 budget request 
allows Special Operations Forces (SOF) to remain fully capable of 
accomplishing USSOCOM's missions, while exceeding the Nation's 
expectations. However, sustaining, campaigning, and modernizing SOF 
forces must be balanced with an appreciation of both near-and long-term 
readiness risk to force and mission. This balancing act means some 
requirements cannot be fully resourced within available funding, and 
are subsequently deferred to a future year in lieu of near-term higher 
priority needs.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM follows congressional and DOD's 
budgetary processes.

    4. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nakasone, historically, have 
previous UPL items been included in the following year's base budget? 
Have UPL items from fiscal year 2023 been included in the fiscal year 
2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail including the requested 
item, funding amount, and vendor executing the effort. If no, why not?
    General Fenton. Yes, if funded by Congress from USSOCOM's fiscal 
year 2023 C-UPL and not a one-time requirement. Examples from USSOCOM's 
fiscal year 2023 list include:
    i. Counter Unmanned Systems Procurement Acceleration, $65.2 
million, Anduril Industries
    ii. Advana Authoritative Data Management and Analytics, $8.0 
million, Booz Allen Hamilton
    iii. Enterprise Data Stewardship Program, $18 million, Indefinite 
Delivery, Indefinite Quantity Contract (e.g., multiple vendors)
    iv. Identity and Signature Management Modernization, $20.9 million, 
GDIT/ARMA, CACI/AFC, Thompson-Reuters Special Services, and others 
based on mission requirements
    v. CV-22 & MC-130J Link-16 TacNet Tactical Receiver, $5.7 million, 
Lockheed Martin. Data Link Systems, Sierra Nevada Corporation, and 
VIASAT
    Some requirements resourced via the UPL are one-time damage 
refurbishments or aircraft loss replacements that occurred after the 
close of the Program/Budget Review, and were subsequently added to the 
UPL. USSOCOM's Combatant Craft Medium Loss Refurbishment for $4.3 
million was one such requirement funded in fiscal year 2023.
    General Nakasone. The first UPL request for which USCYBERCOM 
received funding was in fiscal year 2022. USCYBERCOM was unable to 
include the item in its fiscal year 2023 base budget, so another UPL 
was requested for fiscal year 2023. All of the USCYBERCOM fiscal year 
2023 UPL items which received partial funding in fiscal year 2023 have 
been included in USCYBERCOM's Fiscal Year 2024 Presidents Budget (PB) 
request as appropriate.

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        Fiscal Year 2023 UPL ITEM             ($ millions)        ($ millions)               Vendor(s)
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Cyber Mission Force Operational Support..              167.9                66.0   NSA; FFRDC/UARCs; Booz Allen
                                                                                     Hamilton; Accenture; SANS;
                                                                                              other vendors TBD
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JCWA Integration.........................               56.4                41.4     ManTech; other vendors TBD
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    5. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nakasone, do you agree that 
Federal agencies should be required to work within the confines of base 
budget process?
    General Fenton. Yes. The base budget process affords the Command 
and the Department the opportunity to ensure the most critical 
strategic requirements are resourced within the President's Budget 
Request. The C-UPL supplements provide an avenue for Combatant 
Commanders and Service Chiefs to communicate emerging requirements 
directly to Congress that would have been resourced if the requirement 
had been identified before the close of the budget process months 
earlier. Also, C-UPLs represent requirements we would have funded 
within the base budget if additional funds had been available for 
addressing ``fact of life'' changes. fiscal year 2024 examples in the 
latter category include acceleration of transformational investments in 
modern capabilities such as un-crewed platforms, autonomous 
capabilities, artificial intelligence, machine learning, and natural 
language processing capabilities.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM follows congressional and DOD's 
budgetary processes.
                          information on upls
    6. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what was the cost 
of putting together this UPL list?
    General Fenton. UPL compilation is a byproduct of building annual 
President's Budget Requests.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in 
response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:
    7. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, please provide a 
detailed description of this UPL?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    8. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what does the UPL 
purchase?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    9. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, please include 
detail on all end items with quantities, contractor FTEs, etc.
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    10. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what specific 
capability will the UPL provide?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    11. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what gap will this 
fill that is not in the base budget?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    12. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, how will this 
capability support objectives outlined in current National Security, 
Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    13. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what is the 
operational requirement? How does this UPL support current or future 
operations?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    14. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what is the 
operational impact if this UPL is not funded in fiscal year 2024?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    15. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, are there plans to 
include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    16. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, why was this UPL 
not included in the fiscal year 2024 President's Budget submission?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    17. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what is the name 
of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    18. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, how often has your 
command met with the vendor executing this effort? Please provide a 
list of all such meetings, and the agenda for these meetings?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    19. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what is your 
history with this vendor? Please detail when the relationship began, 
the number of contracts applied for by this vendor, the number of 
contracts awarded to this vendor, and if you have had a personal 
relationship with the vendor?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    20. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, has anyone who 
formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in meetings? 
What is their name, what was their position, and when did you meet with 
them?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    21. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, in which city/
State will the UPL be executed?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    22. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    23. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what is the 
anticipated contract award date if the UPL receives funding?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    24. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, what funding lines 
are associated with this UPL?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    25. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded 
simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each appropriation 
stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    26. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, how much was 
enacted and obligated (or expended for RDT&E) in fiscal year 2022-23 
for this requirement?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    27. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, how much was 
requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    28. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, is there a tail 
associated with this UPL?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    29. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, is any tail funded 
in the future years defense plan?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    30. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, please describe 
how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 years.
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    31. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, please provide in 
detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this requirement, 
including if it was in the base budget or UPL.
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    32. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, if the requirement 
is not included in the future years defense plan, will that be 
rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

    33. Senator Warren. General Fenton and Nasakone, please provide 
photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    General Fenton. Responses have been retained in Committee files.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM did not submit an Unfunded Priorities 
List for fiscal year 2024.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Gary Peters
                                 c-uas
    34. Senator Peters. General Fenton, with SOCOM's designation as the 
lead for defeating UAS prior to launch, home and abroad. What 
recommendations can you offer DOD and the Army's Joint Counter-UAS 
office to increase collaboration between DHS and other interagency 
partners for illuminating and countering threats to homeland, and where 
does the lead coordinating authority fit into the process?
    General Fenton. In our role as the DOD's global coordinator to 
counter the UAS threat prior to launch, we strive to ensure effective 
collaboration occurs within the DOD daily, between the Army's Joint C-
UAS office, DHS, interagency partners and others.
    In our coordinating role, we use an approach similar to the one we 
use for the Counter-VEO fight in the Combatant Command Areas of 
Responsibility (AORs)--protecting the homeland by disrupting the 
adversary primarily outside the U.S. (i.e., the Away Game). In order to 
execute this role, the Department engages with Law Enforcement and 
interagency partners (including but not limited to, Department of 
Commerce, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the Federal Bureau of 
Investigations, DHS, Treasury, and State), as well as coordinating with 
USNORTHCOM, the Joint Counter small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (sUAS) 
Office (JCO), and the National Intelligence Manager for Aviation to 
identify threats, priorities, and coordinate opportunities to counter 
risks to the Homeland.
    To ensure domestic challenges are addressed, we continue to work 
by, with, and through USNORTHCOM and the Office of the Director of 
National Intelligence, National Intelligence Manager-Aviation partners, 
and we are in close coordination with JCO to ensure no seams exist 
between the mutually supportive ``Right of Launch'' and ``Prior to 
Launch'' efforts.
                 internet operations management program
    35. Senator Peters. General Nasakone, in your role, you are 
responsible for securing the sprawling ``.mil'' digital enterprise that 
our warfighters depend upon. Over the last several years, progress has 
been made to implement an Internet Operations Management Program that 
continuously monitors DOD's cyber infrastructure through the eyes of 
the adversary, identifies vulnerabilities, and empowers network 
operators to quickly remediate those issues before adversaries like 
Russia or China can exploit them. Despite some progress, this critical 
capability has yet to be deployed across the entire DOD Information 
Network. Over half of the Department's 45 Areas of Operation within the 
DODIN have yet to receive this capability. Can we expect full DOD-wide 
deployment of the Internet Management Operations Management capability 
in fiscal year 2023?
    IF NOT, Today's threat environment seems misaligned to picking 
winners and losers across the DOD Information Network for proven 
capability. What do you need from us to push this critical effort 
across the finish line?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM developed a phased implementation of 
the Internet Operations Management (IOM) capability based on 
operational focus and intelligence needs. So far in fiscal year 2023, 
the Department has expanded this capability to 27 of the 45 DODIN Areas 
of Operation (DAOs).
      Phase I included 18 DAOs that each completed a 60-day 
onboarding, ensuring success through live/recorded training sessions 
and concluding with a tabletop exercise to certify DODIN Areas of 
Operation initial operating capability meets operational direction.
      Phase 2 began on March 30 and will grant access to 9 more 
DODIN Areas of Operation who will complete the same 60-day onboarding 
cycle.
    Full deployment of IOM capability to all 45 DAO's is planned for 
fiscal year 2024.
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                  Questions Submitted by Senator Kelly
                            armed overwatch
    36. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, what is the development status 
of the of the AT-802U Sky Warden, to be designated OA-1K?
    General Fenton. The Armed Overwatch OA-1K Program is integrating 
mature mission system technologies to include weapons, defensive 
systems, and secure communications onto the commercial AT-802U 
aircraft. This approach leverages proven technologies requiring little 
development. Presently, USSOCOM is working with L3Harris and the 
Federal Aviation Administration to certify the airworthiness of the AT-
802U modifications that comprise the OA-1K. The first lot of seven 
aircraft is now in low-rate initial production with aircraft being 
modified at the L3Harris facility in Tulsa, okay.

    37. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, when will you take delivery of 
the first aircraft?
    General Fenton. We are scheduled to take delivery of the first 
aircraft by the end of October of this year.

    38. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, is SOCOM working to identify 
training locations? What are the main considerations?
    General Fenton. Yes, the training location is currently being 
coordinated by AFSOC through the Secretary of the Air Force's Strategic 
Basing Process. There are two main criteria for consideration: 
locations with existing similar-sized aircraft training, maintenance, 
and support infrastructure and training airspace for Armed Overwatch 
mission with air-to-ground range availability and accessibility.

    39. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, how will SOCOM select basing 
locations for the anticipated 4 squadrons of these aircraft?
    General Fenton. The OA-1K will be based with USSOCOM's Air Force 
Service Component. AFSOC is leading the effort to qualify candidate OA-
1K bases through the Secretary of the Air Force's Strategic Basing 
Process. Once approved, the Secretary of the Air Force will notify 
Congress of the decision.

    40. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, how can this Committee better 
support you in continuing to do the Armed Overwatch mission?
    General Fenton. We appreciate the continued support we have 
received from the Committee as we maintain an aggressive schedule to 
field the Armed Overwatch aircraft. However, there are no additional 
steps the Committee can take at this time to accelerate the program.

    41. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, are there steps Congress can 
take to accelerate progress through program milestones?
    General Fenton. We appreciate the continued support we have 
received from Congress as we maintain an aggressive schedule to field 
the Armed Overwatch aircraft as quickly as possible. However, there are 
no additional steps Congress can take at this time to accelerate the 
program.
                        oa-1k operational impact
    42. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, armed ISR capabilities have 
played a pivotal role in the fight against global extremist threats 
worldwide. It's also critical to have a platform capable of doing Close 
Air Support missions and supporting our troops on the ground at a 
moment's notice. What specific capabilities will the new, dedicated 
light attack aircraft to be known as OA-1K provide?
    General Fenton. The OA-1K will provide two high-definition, 
electro-optical/infrared full motion video (FMV) sensors for overwatch 
in support of troops on the ground. The aircraft will have encrypted 
line of sight (LOS) voice communications, as well as LOS FMV downlink 
to exchange real time voice and video imagery with a supported ground 
element. Additionally, the OA-1K will have Link 16 and Beyond Line-of-
Sight full motion video capabilities to exchange battlespace awareness 
information with other aircraft and operations centers. For delivering 
kinetic effects against a target, the OA-1K will be armed with 2.75'' 
laser-guided rockets (AGR-20 Advanced Precision Kill Weapon System 
(APKWS)) and AGM-114 Hellfire missiles. The OA-1K will have a 3.5 hour 
loiter time plus 30 minutes weapons delivery at a range of 225 nautical 
miles. Finally, the OA-1K is equipped with an external, podded modular 
multiple-sensor station and open mission system architecture to enable 
tailoring of platform capability to support force needs.

    43. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, how do you anticipate using the 
OA-1K to support SOCOM operations?
    General Fenton. Armed Overwatch will provide a cost-effective, 
multi-role, rapidly deployable, Irregular Warfare (IW) platform capable 
of austere operations in direct support of globally deployed, 
geographically isolated SOF units, and remains central to our Precision 
Effects modernization efforts, as it will provide responsive and 
available situational awareness, protection and fires to our ground 
forces executing C-VEO missions in permissive environments.

    44. Senator Kelly. General Fenton, how will these aircraft impact 
the support SOCOM is able to provide to our Combatant Commanders around 
the world?
    General Fenton. Combatant Commanders' requirements differ based on 
their missions, threats, and national policy in those regions. The OA-
1K will conduct cost-effective IW missions, as well as enable other 
USSOCOM assets to pivot toward other priority mission sets. The Armed 
Overwatch primary focus is on the C-VEO mission by supporting combined 
ground teams for operations that require a low footprint, higher 
endurance, and austere capable aircraft.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                          dual-hat arrangement
    45. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, could you please comment on 
how your dual-hatted role at CYBERCOM and the NSA enhances U.S. 
national security and helps both agencies achieve success in their 
individual missions? If the dual-hat arrangement were to go away, how 
do you think it would impact cyber coordination efforts between 
CYBERCOM and the NSA, and the execution of their individual missions?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                       cyber workforce readiness
    46. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, does CYBERCOM have the 
manpower it needs to fully execute its mission? Would personnel 
management tools such as extended tour lengths, geographic assignment 
stability, and increased special duty pay help in recruiting and 
retaining the cyber workforce the Department needs?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                           cyber partnerships
    47. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, please comment on how 
CYBERCOM is leveraging partnerships with United States' international 
allies to strengthen our defenses against common threats and 
adversaries?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM has increased its focus and engagement 
with international partners globally. These partnerships build 
resilience in partners' ability to harden their government and military 
networks and weapons systems, enhance interoperability in coordinating 
and executing cyberspace operations, and enhance partners' posture to 
confront cyber threats across the spectrum of competition and conflict.
    Further information is in classified responses.

    48. Senator Wicker. General Nasakone, the defense industrial base 
is often our first line of defense for cyberattacks in the United 
States. General Nakasone, how is CYBERCOM collaborating with the 
private sector to ensure that the private sector has the information 
and tools it needs to detect and respond to cyberattacks?
    General Nakasone. Cyberspace is a global domain. Adversaries often 
penetrate privately owned networks and devices, using sophisticated 
capabilities to disrupt operations or gain advantage via activities 
such as intellectual property theft, targeting of personal information 
and installation of ransomware. The collaboration and sharing of 
insights with the private sector provides mutual benefits. An example 
is the UNDERADVISEMENT program, which links cybersecurity expertise 
across industry and government, leading to several operational 
successes as well as collaborating with system owners in order to 
eradicate threats themselves.
               artificial intelligence and cybersecurity
    49. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, how is artificial 
intelligence (AI) changing warfare in the cyber domain, and what can we 
be doing to leverage AI to enhance our offensive and defensive cyber 
capabilities?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
         cyber capabilities to secure the u.s. southern border
    50. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, I recently traveled to the 
U.S. southern border where we have a serious crisis. The border is 
clearly controlled by the cartels, which are trafficking humans, fatal 
drugs, and weapons. To what extent are the Mexican cartels using cyber 
capabilities to control the southern border, and what can you share 
about CYBERCOM's efforts to counter the cartels' cyber capabilities?
    General Nakasone. [Deleted.]
                  joint cyber warfighting architecture
    51. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, please provide a status 
update on the migration of Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture 
components from the Services to CYBERCOM.
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM is conducting the initial stages of 
the migration of the Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture (JCWA) 
components from the Services to USCYBERCOM by working to define 
Service/USCYBERCOM roles and responsibilities, governance and 
authorities.
    USCYBERCOM is drafting Memoranda of Understanding (MOU) with the 
Services outlining relationships and responsibilities. In addition, 
USCYBERCOM is working with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Acquisition and Sustainment (OUSD(A&S)) to define Commander 
USCYBERCOM's authorities for Systems Engineering and Integration 
(SE&I), enabling cross-JCWA enterprise interoperability functions for 
all JCWA program offices. USCYBERCOM expects to use enhanced budget 
control (EBC) and SE&I authorities to manage JCWA programs at an 
enterprise level in fiscal year 2024.
    USCYBERCOM is preparing to establish a Program Executive Office as 
directed in the fiscal year 2023 NDAA, Section 1509.
                              competition
    52. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, does the DOD have a strategy 
to ensure that no single vendor has a broad enough enterprise license 
agreement that it locks out ``best of breed'' cybersecurity solutions 
and thereby increases cyber risk? If so, recognizing that there are 
many components to a comprehensive cybersecurity solution, such as 
Endpoint Detection and Response, Vulnerability Management, Identity and 
Access Management, and Security Information and Event Management, what 
is your strategy to ensure that the Department incorporates the best of 
each component to reduce cyber risk?
    General Nakasone. I defer this question to the Department of 
Defense.

    53. Senator Wicker. General Nakasone, does the DOD plan to issue a 
new department-wide acquisition strategy to meet Zero Trust 
requirements that includes a competitive process for multiple 
cybersecurity vendors?
    General Nakasone. I defer this question to the Department of 
Defense.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                           irregular warfare
    54. Senator Ernst. Secretary Maier and General Fenton, in your 
personal opinion, would enabling partner forces that are responding to 
hostilities enhance SOF's irregular warfare contribution to great power 
competition?
    Secretary Maier. Irregular warfare operations and activities 
increase pressure on adversaries that seek to compete with the United 
States by shaping the environment to prevent or deter hostilities, 
enhancing our allies' and partners' ability to respond to hostilities, 
and setting favorable conditions for potential future U.S. operations. 
Through these operations and activities, the U.S. can positively 
influence outcomes for partner defense forces and degrade adversarial 
resources and capabilities without overtly/openly escalating 
hostilities. This contributes to strategic competition by bolstering 
U.S. legitimacy as a dedicated and invested partner while 
simultaneously signaling to other adversaries the consequences of 
challenging a U.S. partner.
    General Fenton. As evidenced by recent and ongoing events around 
the globe, competition between world powers spans the operational 
continuum, including armed conflict. U.S. SOF must be prepared to 
execute IW activities in support of Combatant Command requirements on 
both ends of the spectrum equally, especially as it relates to our 
interactions with foreign partners. Following through is critical to 
the sustainment and implementation of operational capabilities that 
were developed prior to hostilities. Perhaps more importantly, the 
demonstration of U.S. resolve enhances our credibility, which is 
crucial to the sustainment of relationships with current partners and 
to fostering future relationships. Our ability to enable like-minded 
partners through resourcing, training, and advising across the 
operational continuum is the key to achieving strategic effects 
designed to prevent--prepare--and ultimately prevail over a mutual 
adversary. Conversely, failure to follow through will result in 
outsized negative impacts to ongoing and future IW campaigns.

    55. Senator Ernst. Secretary Maier and General Fenton, in your 
personal opinion, do you agree that extending this authority 
indefinitely and increasing its budget authorization would improve 
SOF's irregular warfare capability?
    Secretary Maier. Yes, codifying section 1202 of the fiscal year 
2018 NDAA as a permanent authority and increasing its budget 
authorization will enable SOF to fund and plan long-term operations 
necessary to build resilient and capable partners and to compete 
successfully with adversaries. Section 1202 programs enable SOF to 
conduct activities below the threshold of armed conflict that develop 
and enable partners to counter our adversaries' malign interests around 
the globe. A temporary, or periodically renewed 1202 authority 
communicates to our partners and adversaries that U.S. support is bound 
by a timeline and that our support has an expiration.
    General Fenton. Codifying and expanding the budget authorization 
for 1202 broadens the aperture and increases U.S. SOF's value 
proposition for Combatant Commanders that are deterred from using 1202 
by the current uncertain program lifespan and relatively low budget 
cap. Enhanced Combatant Command confidence in the efficacy of the 1202 
program would result in increased opportunities and greater flexibility 
for U.S. SOF to enable and leverage foreign partners to achieve 
specific effects in support of our mutual IW objectives.

    56. Senator Ernst. Secretary Maier and General Fenton, in your 
personal opinion, are there other modifications to this authority that 
could improve SOF ability to compete with great powers?
    Secretary Maier. We continuously evaluate existing authorities in 
coordination with USSOCOM to ensure SOF has the authorities it needs to 
effectively contribute to strategic competition.
    General Fenton. We are currently assessing the benefit of combining 
the attributes of 127e (support of Special Operations to Combat 
Terrorism) and 1202 (support of Special Operations for Irregular 
Warfare) into a single fiscal authority that would allow for the 
provision of support to foreign partners to achieve effects when and 
where counter-VEO operations and integrated deterrence campaigning are 
complementary. This is an initiative that--if we determine it has 
merit--would be worked through the Department's legislative proposal/
review process.

                                training
    57. Senator Ernst. General Fenton, we need realistic training to 
build readiness for GPC. How has SOF adapted its training programs for 
GPC?
    General Fenton. USSOCOM is executing an aggressive plan of 
reorienting SOF to address the global challenges that are impacting new 
strategies for campaigning throughout multiple regions and across all 
domains. Realistic training is key to building enduring advantage and 
critical to enhancing SOF's and our partners' capabilities against near 
peer challengers. USSOCOM continues to support and participate in 
Service, Joint, and multinational exercises synchronizing these 
activities through our Theater Special Operations Commands and the 
Combatant Commands to provide deterrent effects to our competitors 
whenever possible. USSOCOM continues to explore new training 
capabilities, live and virtual, in multiple domains to enhance our 
warfighting and crisis response capabilities.

    58. Senator Ernst. General Fenton, does SOF have the resource it 
needs to adapted its training programs for GPC?
    General Fenton. It is important to sustain funding for 
experimentation, training, and exercises for the entire Joint Force to 
build capabilities, readiness, and deter our competitors. Ensuring SOF 
is integrated with our joint and combined partners is accomplished 
through maintaining and enhancing our joint and combined exercises 
programs, especially with the Interagency, to address current strategic 
challenges and anticipate future challenges.
                           counter narcotics
    59. Senator Ernst. Secretary Maier, how is SOF using existing 
authorities to conduct its counter-narcotics responsibility?
    Secretary Maier. In support of DOD's broader counternarcotics and 
counter-transnational organized crime efforts, SOF leverage existing 
authorities to conduct exercises and training alongside foreign 
partners with responsibilities for disrupting drug trafficking and 
associated forms of transnational organized crime.
    U.S. law and longstanding policy prohibits direct DOD participation 
in law enforcement activities such as searches, seizures, or arrests of 
civilians. In peacetime, U.S. law enforcement agencies, often in 
collaboration with their foreign counterparts, appropriately lead drug 
interdiction efforts, but DOD intelligence, training, and logistical 
support are often critical to successful law enforcement actions, 
including arrests, seizures, designations, etc. SOF's global presence 
and ability to support interagency, non-governmental, and foreign 
military partners enhances the development of holistic options to 
degrade transnational criminal organization networks. As the designated 
global coordinator for the Department's counter threat finance 
operations, USSOCOM provides essential support to U.S. Government 
efforts to identify and disrupt sources of illicit revenue that 
supports terrorist or other transnational criminal organizations.

    60. Senator Ernst. Secretary Maier, are the SOF authorities to 
conduct its counter-narcotics responsibility sufficient at this time?
    Secretary Maier. I appreciate the serious threat that drug 
trafficking poses to our society, especially from fentanyl, which 
according to DEA kills nearly 200 Americans every day. In addition to 
the clear human and economic costs, illicit drugs provide financial 
support to violent extremist organizations and other threat networks 
that contribute to global instability.
    SOF play an important role within DOD's broader counter-narcotics 
efforts, which are conducted through a broad range of authorities, both 
in support of U.S. and foreign law enforcement operations and by 
building the capacity of foreign partners to disrupt drug trafficking 
and associated forms of transnational organized crime. While current 
authorities have been essential to DOD's efforts in support of our law 
enforcement partners, the Department is seeking to amend 10 USC 284 to 
authorize planning support for counterdrug operations conducted by U.S. 
law enforcement agencies and to increase the cap on small-scale 
construction for bases of operations or training facilities in support 
of foreign law enforcement agencies. The Department is also seeking to 
codify Section 1022 of the Fiscal Year 2004 NDAA, which authorizes the 
use of counterdrug funds to enable joint task forces that support law 
enforcement agencies conducting counter-drug activities to also provide 
support to law enforcement agencies conducting counter-terrorism or 
counter-transnational organized crime activities, including the 
trafficking of people, weapons, money, and natural resources and 
wildlife.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                           sof in the arctic
    61. Senator Sullivan. General Fenton, Assistant Secretary of 
Defense Maier, in your prepared remarks you noted that ``[s]trategic 
competitors--specifically Russia--threaten established international 
rules in the Arctic and pose increasing challenges to North American 
security. SOF play a role in bolstering domain awareness and integrated 
deterrence in the Arctic as part of the Joint Force. Over the past 
year, SOF strengthened capabilities to operate and prevail in the 
austere Arctic environment. Large-scale, joint exercises and 
operations, such as Arctic Edge and Polar Dagger, provided venues for 
more than 500 U.S. and multinational SOF to experiment and operate in 
the North American Arctic region.'' Can you elaborate on how SOCNORTH 
is expanding SOCOM's role in the Arctic to deter China and Russia and 
defend the Homeland?
    General Fenton. USSOCOM supports the Combatant Commands and their 
Arctic Strategies. SOCNORTH has expanded and continues to strengthen 
USSOCOM's role as part of USNORTHCOM's Campaign to deter and defend 
against the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russian malign 
influence in the Arctic. The key Operations, Activities, Exercises, and 
Investments (OAEIs) SOF brings, combined with our strong relationships 
with numerous Allied and Partner nations in the Arctic, strengthens our 
capabilities, increases Joint Force domain awareness and enhances 
integrated deterrence.
    SOCNORTH-led OAEIs across the challenging pan-Arctic environment 
and problem-set is increasing in support of integrated deterrence and 
Homeland Defense. Specific examples include:
      SOCNORTH deployment of a Special Operations Command 
Forward (SOCFWD) to both execute and provide Command and Control (C2) 
of USSOF military free-fall and combat-dive operations in extreme 
Arctic conditions during USNORTHCOM's Exercise VIGILANT SHIELD (April 
2021) at Deadhorse, AK.
      Operation SPARTAN SENTRY (October 2021), which provided 
SOCNORTH an additional opportunity to extend its operational reach to 
plan, execute and assess Special Operations on a larger scale at Shemya 
Island, AK, as part of USNORTHCOM's Operation NOBLE DEFENDER.
      SOCNORTH further advanced SOF campaigning in the Arctic 
during Exercise ARCTIC EDGE 22 (February 2022) by establishing a 
forward-deployed Joint Force Special Operations Component Command to C2 
subordinate Special Operations Task Forces (SOTFs) in the execution of 
multi-domain Special Operations with more than 500 U.S. and 
multinational SOF (the largest ever deployment of SOF to the North 
American Arctic).
      Operation POLAR DAGGER 1.0 (September 2022) during which 
SOCNORTH demonstrated U.S. SOF capability to operate in the Arctic on 
St. Lawrence--located 36 nautical miles off Russia's eastern coastline 
/ military district. This exercise sent a clear deterrent message 
during parallel Russian strategic exercises in the Pacific region.
      Follow-on OAEIs (e.g., Exercise ARCTIC EDGE 23, Operation 
POLAR DAGGER 2.0, etc.) will provide opportunities for SOCNORTH to 
learn, experiment, develop, and evolve USSOF capabilities as part of 
the Joint Force, integrate with inter-organizational partners, and 
potentially message to adversaries that we can and will ``win'' against 
any threat in the Arctic in competition and conflict.
      SOCNORTH continues to focus on strengthening key 
partnerships with numerous Allied and Partner Nations that share 
security interests and equities across the pan-Arctic region. Specific 
examples include:
      In support of CDRUSNORTHCOM's Globally Integrated Layered 
Defense (GILD), and USNORTHCOM's designation in the UCP as the DOD 
Arctic Advocate for Arctic Requirements, SOCNORTH is collaborating 
directly with SOCPAC and SOCEUR to close operational seams across the 
transregional, pan-Arctic problem-set.
      SOCNORTH is also partnering with Joint Force Command 
Norfolk (JFC-NF) to assist NATO with planning for campaigning and 
contingencies in the High North and the trans-Atlantic approaches to 
the Homeland.
      In October 2022, SOCNORTH hosted the first ``Special 
Operations in the Arctic Symposium,'' attended by more than 200 
participants from more than 70 joint, interagency, intergovernmental, 
and multinational organizations to include the Ted Stevens Center (the 
Alaska-based DOD Regional Security Center focused on the Arctic), 
helped to build shared understanding, better define pan-Arctic 
challenges and share lessons learned across the Enterprise.
    SOF is innovating and improving in order to fight and win in this 
challenging environment, through the execution of these OAEIs and 
building focused relationships.
    Secretary Maier. Special Operations Command North (SOCNORTH) plays 
a key role in the first Pillar of our Arctic Strategy, centered on 
security and developing capabilities for expanded Arctic activity. As 
an Arctic nation, and as an ally to Arctic nations, we have a 
responsibility to operate across our own gaps and seams and to 
strengthen partnerships. Special operations forces have always excelled 
at both. SOCNORTH works closely with Special Operations Command Europe 
(SOCEUR) and Special Operations Command Pacific (SOCPAC), finding 
opportunities to deepen cooperation with allies and partners to improve 
our understanding of the environment, and to ensure each combatant 
command is prepared to operate with our allies in the Arctic. One 
example is the Senior Leader Dialogue we recently held with leaders 
from Norway's defense ministry and special operations command. The 
commanders of SOCEUR and SOCNORTH outlined important ways for us to 
maximize our unity of effort through our key bilateral relationships, 
exercise presence, share awareness, and deepen our interoperability 
with allies like Norway. The Arctic is a challenging environment to 
operate in, and SOF leads the way, finding opportunities to address 
those challenges and further develop our own capabilities.

                       ocom global force posture
    62. Senator Sullivan. General Fenton, Assistant Secretary of 
Defense Maier, the 2022 NDS establishes a clear hierarchy of threats, 
with the People's Republic of China at the top, followed by Russia. The 
focus on Great Power Competition involves a different mission than the 
counter-terrorism fight most SOCOM entities have conducted for the past 
20 years. It also requires different capabilities. Can you explain, 
with examples, how SOCOM's global force posture has changed to reflect 
the shift from CT operations to deterring Chinese and Russian 
aggression?
    General Fenton. USSOCOM has increased deployments of CONUS-based 
United States SOF to the Indo-Pacific and Europe to supplement forward-
based forces normally available to United States Indo-Pacific Command 
(USINDOPACOM) and United States European Command (USEUCOM). These 
forces work with and assure regional allies and partners, set 
conditions in theater, and effectively enable U.S. SOF to integrate 
with and support the Joint Force during crisis. Even as we re-align SOF 
to the USINDOPACOM AOR--our SOF in other AORs such as U.S. Central 
Command--executes persistent deployments and engagements to deter, 
disrupt, and degrade Russian and Chinese influence and access. In 
USEUCOM, U.S. SOF along with Allied SOF, have rekindled traditional 
relationships with volunteer and territorial defense forces, which 
dramatically increase the resiliency of their nations. In addition, the 
Global SOF Posture Plan (GSPP) has been developed with a focus on 
supporting the integrated deterrence of Chinese and Russian aggression. 
The GSPP shifts posture focus from counter terrorism to integrated 
deterrence. An example is the U.S. Air Force Special Operations 
Command's development of Theater Air Operations Squadrons and their 
Non-Standard Aviation Growth, which were validated by USSOCOM in 2022, 
and are currently being staffed for implementation into two key 
theaters. These units represent the first developed and validated to 
meet the NDS objectives.
    Secretary Maier. SOF are present in more than 70 countries at any 
one time. We have always deployed to address the needs of the Nation 
alongside our Allies and partners. Consistent with the 2022 NDS 
direction to address the People's Republic of China as our pacing 
threat, and Russia as an acute threat, we are focusing on establishing 
the access, placement, and relationships needed to counter these 
threats and prepare for conflict if required. A great example of these 
efforts is in the Philippines, where Exercise Balikatan 2023 will 
include forces from the 27th Special Operations Wing working alongside 
our Allies to enhance interoperability and demonstrate resolve in the 
critical Indo-Pacific theater. While we have not taken our eye off the 
counterterrorism fight, we are purposefully deploying and leveraging 
SOF to provide asymmetric advantages for the Joint Force and the 
Nation.

    63. Senator Sullivan. General Fenton, Assistant Secretary of 
Defense Maier, do you think SOCOM is now properly aligned to execute 
the 2022 NDS or does more work remain to be done?
    General Fenton. Yes. The men and women of USSOCOM stand ready to 
execute and support the requirements in our NDS; anytime and anywhere 
our Nation requires us. We have always changed shape to meet the 
requirements of the Nation and the SOF Enterprise's focus on ``People, 
Win, and Transform'' will continue to guide USSOCOM to support the NDS. 
SOF is laser-focused on the PRC as the pacing threat, while we continue 
C-VEO and ensure the readiness of our no-fail CR mission. We will 
continuously evaluate the enterprise moving forward to ensure we 
support the joint force through integrated deterrence, and are prepared 
to accomplish the most challenging missions at a time of high risk. All 
of this requires calibration and nuance to defend the Nation and build 
stronger relationships with our allies and partners.
    Additionally, USSOCOM is accelerating its wide-ranging 
modernization efforts and leveraging its acquisition authorities with 
an emphasis on surface and subsurface maritime platforms; C-UAS; next-
generation Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance; mission 
command systems; and collaborative and autonomous unmanned systems. 
USSOCOM continues to build enduring advantages through investments in 
our people, technology, and organizations in support of the NDS.
    Secretary Maier. The SOF enterprise is aligned with the guidance 
set forth by the 2022 National Defense Strategy and continues work to 
implement the NDS. We are on the pathway to achieve NDS-defined 
strategic objectives through the programming, planning, and allocation 
of SOF resources to execute global SOF operations, activities, and 
investments. The guidance and direction that CDRUSSOCOM and I have 
published in our SOF Vision and Strategy and the fiscal year 2025 SOF 
Capabilities and Programming Guidance reflects SOF's alignment with the 
2022 NDS. In addition, our co-authored future operating concept we are 
developing further aligns how SOF will operate in the future to the 
strategic direction outlined in the 2022 NDS. Together, these documents 
lay out the plan for aligning SOF with NDS priority initiatives, and we 
are providing regular progress updates to the Secretary.
               uscybercom support of indopacom objectives
    64. Senator Sullivan. General Nakasone, in your prepared remarks 
you identified USCYBERCOM's fourth line of effort as ``developing 
options for full-spectrum cyberspace operations to assist Combatant 
Commanders . . . to achieve their objectives.'' You also noted that 
China was ``building capabilities far in excess of its defense needs.'' 
Deterring, and if necessary defeating, a Chinese invasion of Taiwan is 
certainly one of INDOPACOM's objectives. A key Chinese capability to 
conduct such an invasion is the PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy). 
The Secretary of the Navy has acknowledged we cannot match the output 
of Chinese shipyards and the PLAN is already numerically larger than 
the United States Navy. The PLAN also uses civilian RO-ROs (Roll on/ 
Roll Off) ferry vessels to practice the same type of amphibious 
operations it needs to conduct to invade Taiwan. What capabilities does 
CYBERCOM bring to the fight to help INDOPACOM achieve its objectives, 
specifically deterring and defeating a PLA amphibious invasion of 
Taiwan?
    General Nakasone. Last year, I created a combined USCYBERCOM-NSA 
China Outcomes Group to oversee this shift. The China Outcomes Group 
aligns components in USCYBERCOM and NSA, enhances intelligence 
insights, improves cybersecurity and delivers operational outcomes for 
the Nation. Resources are prioritized and focused on deterring and 
countering the People's Republic of China's (PRC's) aggressive 
behavior.
    Further information is in classified responses.
                               __________
                Questions Submitted by Senator Ted Budd
                 internet operations management program
    65. Senator Budd. General Nakasone, how large is the total attack 
surface that CYBERCOM is responsible for defending across the DOD 
Information Network?
    General Nakasone. The DODIN attack surface being actively tracked 
and monitored by Internet Operations Management (IOM) consists of 
roughly 300 million Internet Protocol addresses for which USCYBERCOM is 
responsible for defending.

    66. Senator Budd. General Nakasone, how is CYBERCOM incorporating 
industry solutions, including automated monitoring through the eyes of 
the adversary, to help better defend that attack surface?
    General Nakasone. The Internet Operations Management (IOM) 
capability is the industry solution USCYBERCOM has been using since 
2019 that performs monitoring through the eyes of the adversary. IOM 
has been leveraged to continuously discover, inventory, manage and 
monitor all commercial-facing DODIN cyberspace assets, both on-premises 
and in the cloud; to aggregate all DODIN commercial-facing asset data 
in a centralized location; and to streamline command and control of 
DODIN defensive cyberspace operations.

    67. Senator Budd. General Nakasone, reportedly over half of the 
Department's 45 Areas of Operation within the DODIN have yet to 
implement continuous monitoring and vulnerability identification 
through the Internet Operations Management Program. Do you expect 
Department-wide deployment of that capability this year? If not, when 
can we expect it?
    General Nakasone. USCYBERCOM developed a phased implementation of 
the Internet Operations Management (IOM) capability based on 
operational focus and intelligence needs. So far in fiscal year 2023, 
the Department has expanded this capability to 27 of the 45 DODIN Areas 
of Operation (DAOs).

      Phase 1 included 18 DAOs that each completed a 60-day 
onboarding, ensuring success through live/recorded training sessions 
and concluding with a tabletop exercise to certify DODIN Areas of 
Operation initial operating capability meets operational direction.

      Phase 2 began on March 30 and will grant access to 9 more 
DODIN Areas of Operation who will complete the same 60-day onboarding 
cycle.

    Full deployment of IOM capability to all 45 DAO's is planned for 
fiscal year 2024.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 9, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

    UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND AND UNITED STATES SPACE COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room G-50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, King, Warren, Peters, Rosen, 
Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, 
Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order. Good 
morning. The Committee meets today to receive testimony from 
General Anthony Cotton, Commander of U.S. Strategic Command, or 
STRATCOM, and General James Dickinson, Commander of U.S. Space 
Command, or SPACECOM.
    Gentlemen, thank you for your service to the Nation, and 
please extend my thanks, and thanks of all the Members of the 
Committee, to the men and women serving under your command. 
General Dickinson, I understand this is likely your last 
hearing before the Committee as Commander SPACECOM.
    I want to thank you for your extraordinary leadership, and 
particularly to the first years of this command as you 
establish the norms that are carried forward. Thank you very 
much, sir. As in the past, we have asked the Commanders of 
STRATCOM and SPACECOM to testify together.
    Until 2019, Space Command was a part of Strategic Command. 
Now, as SPACECOM stands up as an independent command, it is 
important to identify any gaps or seams that have emerged 
during the transition.
    On the global stage, Russia's illegal war in Ukraine has 
introduced risks to the nuclear stability we have maintained 
for the better part of a century. Vladimir Putin's behavior has 
been dangerously reckless. In February, he suspended Russia's 
participation in the New START [Strategic Arms Reduction 
Treaty], the last remaining strategic stability agreement 
between our two countries.
    General Cotton, it is important to the Committee to 
understand how this affects your planning, and I hope to hear 
more about it in the classified session. Further, Putin and his 
associates have made a series of nuclear saber-rattling 
statements to try to make the United States and our allies 
reconsider our support for Ukraine.
    That strategy has failed. The United States nuclear 
deterrent, the bedrock of our national defense, is being relied 
upon more than ever, and our extended deterrence for our allies 
has proven effective. This has made Russia think twice about 
escalating hostilities against NATO [North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization]. We must be mindful, however, that as Putin's 
conventional arsenal grows weaker, he may rely more on his 
nuclear arsenal.
    I would welcome our witnesses' thoughts on how we can best 
manage this extremely complicated dynamic. Our other near-peer 
competitor, China, continues to advance its ballistic missile 
capabilities. In addition to expanding its field of hardened 
missile silos, the PLA [People's Liberation Army] is building 
new air and sea nuclear delivery platforms.
    General Cotton, you recently sent a letter to Congress 
reporting that while China has fewer warheads than the United 
States, it now has more launch platforms than we do. I would 
like to know the implications of this assessment.
    Beijing's new land-based silos, along with the completion 
of its nuclear triad, and nuclear command and control and 
communications, or NC3, fundamentally changed the nature of its 
nuclear doctrine. This shift may have significant impacts on 
stability in the Indo-Pacific region and should inform how we 
design our own nuclear strategy to protect the Nation and 
maintain our extended deterrence and our commitment to our 
allies.
    The United States is well under way in its cycle of nuclear 
modernization, a once in a generation effort to renew the aging 
legs of our nuclear triad. Each leg is a major defense 
acquisition program, and I understand that the Air Force and 
Navy are encountering workforce and supply chain problems 
similar to other Department programs. General Cotton, I would 
like to know how these delays could impact your planning 
efforts.
    Further, I would ask for your views on the efforts of the 
National Nuclear Security Administration, or NNSA, to meet 
Defense Department requirements. In prior modernization cycles, 
the NNSA could rely on existing infrastructure, particularly 
with respect to uranium and plutonium, to meet these 
requirements.
    That is not the case today, as the NNSA has to recapitalize 
the very production facilities needed to provide finished 
nuclear parts. It is essential that we understand what impacts 
this may have on your operations.
    In the space domain, we are quickly gaining a clearer 
picture of the threats we face. With respect to Ukraine, we 
have learned a number of important lessons. For example, GPS 
[Global Positioning System] jamming is now commonplace and 
commercial space systems are regarded as enemy combatants by 
Russia. There are entire regions of Ukraine that are GPS 
denied, and the conflict is creating unexpected consequences 
for commercial space operations.
    General Dickinson, I hope you will share your perspective 
on using commercial space assets in a conflict as our current 
policy is ambiguous. Space Command's ability to want Strategic 
Command, Northern Command, and U.S. senior leadership of a 
missile attack on the Homeland remains critically important.
    The Committee would appreciate an update on the progress 
SPACECOM has made in assuming control of the missile warning 
and NC3 functions it inherited from STRATCOM. Are there gaps in 
and how can these gaps be addressed? Finally, SPACECOM is 
responsible for integrating both ground and space sensors to 
achieve better space situational awareness, essentially 
becoming the Defense Department's sensor command.
    General Dickinson, I ask that you share your vision for how 
to integrate this constellation of sensors which ranges from 
ground and sea radars to satellite sensors so that it provides 
the best support to the Force.
    Thank you again to our witnesses for appearing today. I 
look forward to your testimonies. I would note for my 
colleagues that there will be a classified hearing immediately 
following this session in SVC-217 to continue our discussion. 
With that, let me recognize the Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Chairman Reed, and thank you to 
our witnesses. I can think of no issue that demands the 
Committee's attention more than the nuclear threat posed by 
China and Russia. Despite its significant setbacks in Ukraine, 
Russia remains a major nuclear threat to the United States.
    Moscow possesses a larger and more modern nuclear arsenal 
than we do. It can also build new and numerous additional 
nuclear weapons in short order. Russia has developed new 
nuclear weapons unlike anything in the United States inventory, 
including nuclear powered transoceanic, autonomous torpedoes 
and intercontinental cruise missiles.
    These are weapons for which we have no defense. The story 
out of China is also very troubling. Beijing is modernizing and 
expanding its nuclear force at breakneck speed. It will likely 
outpace the United States in the early 2030's. The past 18-
month period has given us a good idea of China's remarkable 
growth.
    Over that time, China's nuclear arsenal has doubled in 
size. The Chinese have blown a missile that can drop nuclear 
warheads from orbit anywhere on earth with virtually no notice. 
China has become the third country to develop a strategic triad 
of nuclear missiles, bombers, and submarines.
    General Cotton recently notified Congress that China now 
possesses more ICBM [intercontinental ballistic missiles] 
launchers than the United States. Just last week, news reports 
exposed Beijing's purchase of 28 tons of Russian uranium, which 
could be used to further its weapons production. In the space 
domain, China and Russia are openly developing and testing 
counterspace capabilities.
    Each country has dangerously taken out satellite]s in 
orbit, creating thousands of pieces of debris and space junk, 
endangering hundreds of other satellites, and frankly, those 
brazen and irresponsible acts of aggression only scratch the 
surface of their real capabilities.
    Given these great threat conditions, one would expect a 
sense of urgency on the part of our Government, a fundamental 
reassessment of our assumptions and realignment of our 
resources. Instead, the Departments of Defense and Energy 
repeatedly delay programs to modernize our nuclear deterrence 
and restore the basic industrial capabilities we use to produce 
nuclear weapons.
    The Administration downplays the reality that space is a 
war fighting domain. Space contains real threats and 
adversaries, and it needs military solutions. Refusing to 
acknowledge and prepare affects our country's ability to be 
ready for a future war that would extend into space.
    This Administration needs plans and postures to account for 
the worsening security system. If we are to prevail in long 
term competition with China and Russia, we need to commit today 
to a program of sustained innovation and investment. This 
morning, we will begin to receive budget summaries, including 
the President's Budget Request.
    This request once again is likely not to keep pace with 
inflation, and we already know of several significant 
shortfalls in naval shipbuilding, munitions, the key 
investments in the Western Pacific for example, to name a few.
    I would look forward to working with my colleagues here in 
Congress on both sides of the aisle to build a bipartisan, 
adequate, strategy-based budget for the coming year. About the 
sense of urgency, I would like to hear from our witnesses about 
how this Committee can help create a sense of urgency to act, 
to accelerate the modernization of our strategic arsenal and 
adapt our forces. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. General Cotton, 
please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL ANTHONY J. COTTON, USAF COMMANDER, UNITED 
                    STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND

    General Cotton. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Wicker, and distinguished Members of the Committee.
    I appreciate this opportunity to testify next to General 
Dickinson, and I thank the Committee and Congress for its 
support to national defense. First, I along with my Command 
Senior Enlisted Leader, Sergeant Major Howard Kramer, want to 
assure you and the American people that the United States 
Strategic Command is ready today.
    Ready to defend our Nation, defend our allies, and respond 
decisively if called upon. The men and women of United States 
Strategic Command are the foundation for the capabilities that 
underpin our Nation's strategic deterrence. They do this in an 
environment that continues to grow complex and challenging.
    Russia's invasion of a sovereign Ukraine is an attempt to 
undermine the rules based international order by conventional 
forces backed with nuclear saber rattling. How this conflict 
unfolds and eventually ends will shape the strategic 
environment for decades to come.
    We see the People's Republic of China (PRC) continuing to 
rapidly expand its nuclear capabilities. The PRC's actions are 
wholly inconsistent with the long-professed policy of minimal 
deterrence. I did report to Congress in January that the number 
of land-based intercontinental ballistic missile launchers in 
the PRC now exceeds those that we have in the United States.
    Along with its significant modernization and expansion of 
conventional capabilities, the PRC is also investing heavily in 
lower yield precision systems with theater ranges, a new 
generation of mobile missiles, and hypersonic glide vehicles 
with fractional over bombardment systems.
    The PRC nuclear modernization, provided with an alarming 
number of offensive options that can negatively shape the 
environment before and during a crisis or conflict. North Korea 
continues to be a rogue actor and poses a threat to the United 
States and our allies. North Korea conducted an unprecedented 
number of missile launches in 2022, and its new 
intercontinental ballistic missile, referred to as the KN-28, 
highlight that the security challenge continues to grow.
    We are meeting today's challenges with integrated 
deterrence. It is the cornerstone of the National Defense 
Strategy (NDS). Our unmatched network of allies is a key 
component of integrated deterrence, and these relationships are 
underpinned by our extended deterrence commitments. These 
commitments are enabled by a safe, secure, effective, and 
credible nuclear deterrent.
    The credibility of our extended deterrent commitments is 
not only part of the Nation's iron-clad commitment to our 
allies but is also essential in limiting proliferation of 
nuclear weapons. The nation's nuclear forces underpin 
integrated deterrence and enables the U.S., our allies, and our 
partners to confront aggressive and coercive behavior.
    To ensure our continue ability to serve as the bedrock of 
integrated deterrence, we are recapitalizing every leg of the 
nuclear triad and the nuclear command, control, and 
communication systems. We are also addressing electromagnetic 
spectrum operations holistically and developing concepts to 
deploy conventional hypersonic strike capabilities.
    We will need to continue partnering with industry to ensure 
flexibility, responsiveness, and capacity during 
recapitalization and modernization to ensure we can sustain our 
current systems while the new ones are being delivered.
    Finally, I will end as I started, our people are the 
foundation of every capability that enables strategic 
deterrence. I am proud to serve alongside the soldiers, 
sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians, and civilians that 
make up U.S. Strategic Command. Thank you again for this honor, 
and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Anthony J. Cotton 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Anthony J. Cotton
                              introduction
    United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM) is a global 
warfighting combatant command (CCMD). Our mission is to deter strategic 
attack and employ forces, as directed, to guarantee the security of our 
Nation and our Allies. Our people are the greatest enablers of this 
security, and it is my privilege to lead the soldiers, sailors, 
marines, airmen, guardians, and civilians who dedicate themselves to 
this mission 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. I want to thank the 
President, Secretary of Defense, and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs for 
their confidence in me to lead this command. I also thank Congress for 
your continued support to ensure that USSTRATCOM has the resources 
necessary to meet our critically important mission. We remain ready to 
face the complex deterrence challenges of today's global security 
environment while positioning the command for the future.
    USSTRATCOM is responsible for strategic deterrence; nuclear 
operations; nuclear command, control, and communications (NC3) 
enterprise operations; joint electromagnetic spectrum (EMS) operations 
(JEMSO); global strike; missile defense; analysis and targeting; and 
missile threat assessment. These responsibilities will grow in 
prominence as we face the challenges identified in the National Defense 
Strategy (NDS): strategic competition with the People's Republic of 
China (PRC), Russia as an acute threat, threats to the United States 
Homeland, and complex escalation dynamics.
    To meet these rapidly evolving challenges, the United States must 
provide a combat ready force able to deter any adversary, and if 
necessary, fight and win. While the command stands ready to execute its 
mission today, we need consistent, stable, and on-time congressional 
funding to sustain and modernize the nuclear enterprise. This will 
ensure our ability to pace current and future threats by providing 
capabilities to deter through the spectrum of conflict. Over the past 
decade, a cycle of continuing resolutions and late appropriations has 
hindered the Department's acquisitions, operations, and maintenance. As 
both the Chief of Staff of the Air Force and Chief of Naval Operations 
testified in 2022, continuing resolutions and late appropriations cost 
us time and money, causing potential delays in modernizing the nuclear 
enterprise and Joint Force.
    The nuclear triad is the foundation of U.S. national security, and 
I thank Congress for fully funding our modernization programs: Sentinel 
intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM), Columbia-class submarine, D5 
submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM) second life extension and 
modernization (D5 LE2), B-21 Raider bomber, and Long Range Standoff 
(LRSO) cruise missile. In addition to these systems, the U.S. must 
continue investment in sustainment of current systems and critical 
capabilities that support and complement the nuclear triad. These 
include nuclear weapons infrastructure overseen by the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA), NC3, nuclear security, and long-range 
conventional strike capabilities such as hypersonic weapons (HSWs). 
Alongside capability is capacity. We must expand our critical munitions 
stockpiles while working with manufacturers to make the defense 
industrial base as responsive as possible.
                               our people
    The greatest strength of USSTRATCOM is its people. Like the rest of 
the Department, our workforce is aging out and we are in a fierce 
competition for talent. My goal is to help personnel currently assigned 
to the command maximize their potential while continuing to attract 
capable individuals. USSTRATCOM is committed to deliberate development 
opportunities and career broadening. These opportunities include 
strategic deterrence education programs, and a strategic leader 
fellowship program. Additionally, we are committed to maintaining an 
inclusive environment where people are valued as well as fostering 
quality of life improvements for the military and civilian workforce. 
Finally, the need to fully recapitalize our nuclear enterprise has an 
important people component--as our systems continue to age, their 
increasing maintenance requirements fall squarely on our dedicated team 
of servicemembers and civilians.
    We have an amazing team serving both in and out of uniform to 
protect our country. Investing in people yields dividends for national 
security. There are serious challenges with the production capacity of 
the defense industrial base, and to help mitigate this I encourage 
Congress to look at ways to increase the number of STEM (science, 
technology, engineering, and mathematics) and skilled trade workers 
throughout the U.S. workforce.
                      global security environment
    For the first time in our country's history, the United States 
faces two major nuclear powers, the PRC and the Russian Federation, 
which have the capability to employ nuclear coercion as a way to 
achieve their national objectives. Russia presents a growing nuclear 
deterrence challenge centered on its potential perception that the 
threshold for regional nuclear employment is lower with low-yield 
systems. The PRC is also developing capabilities that would present a 
similar deterrence challenge, and it is unconstrained by any nuclear 
arms control treaty limitations. Additionally, the activities of the 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) are regionally 
destabilizing and have global implications.
    In the longer term, emerging technologies--including HSWs, 
fractional orbital bombardment (FOB) capabilities, anti-satellite 
capabilities, artificial intelligence (AI), autonomous systems, 
advanced computing, quantum information sciences, biotechnology, and 
advanced materials and manufacturing--pose a growing challenge to our 
national defense.
    Meeting these near-term and longer-term threats requires a globally 
focused national strategy and commitment that spans decades.
People's Republic of China
    As the NDS states, the PRC is our most consequential strategic 
competitor and pacing challenge; its significant nuclear force 
expansion reflects an increasing assertiveness and the capability to 
employ nuclear coercion. The PRC's rapid qualitative and quantitative 
expansion of military capabilities enables a shift in its strategy and 
requires the Department of Defense (DOD) to make immediate and 
significant alterations to plans and capabilities. The PRC is 
aggressively pursuing their global ambitions through a national 
strategy of ``Military-Civil Fusion''--a comprehensive focus on 
advancing civilian research to develop and then apply new technologies 
toward military and defense innovations. For example, the PRC's 
development and construction of fast breeder reactors and reprocessing 
facilities allows the swift expansion of its warhead manufacturing 
capacity. The PRC believes that its robust nuclear weapons program is 
essential to counter the U.S. in the near future in order to achieve 
what its leaders have deemed ``great power status.''
    Correspondingly, the PRC seeks to match, or in some areas surpass, 
quantitative and qualitative parity with the United States in terms of 
nuclear weapons. The PRC's nuclear capabilities already exceed those 
needed for its long-professed policy of ``minimum deterrence,'' but PRC 
capabilities continue to grow at an alarming rate. Additionally, the 
PRC is making substantial investments to expand its inventory of land-, 
sea-, and air-based nuclear delivery platforms and is constructing the 
infrastructure necessary to support the significant expansion of its 
nuclear forces. Notably, the PRC is developing capabilities 
inconsistent with its historical minimum deterrence posture.
    Within the past 3 years, the PRC has built hundreds of new ICBM 
silos, further indicating a move away from a minimum deterrence 
posture. The PRC's three new missile fields collectively provide it 
with more than 300 silos. Each of these silos can be equipped with the 
CSS-10 Mod 2 ICBM, which is capable of ranging the continental United 
States (CONUS) with multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles 
(MIRVs). Additionally, the PRC maintains other ICBMs, some of which are 
road-mobile. Unconstrained by arms control treaty limitations, the PRC 
is fielding a new generation of mobile missiles, with MIRV and 
penetration aid capabilities. The PRC's most modern road-mobile and 
MIRV-capable ICBM advanced from concept to deployed system in only a 
few years. The PRC is now projected to have over 1,000 warheads by the 
end of this decade. In accordance with statutory requirements, I 
recently reported to Congress that the number of land-based fixed and 
mobile ICBM launchers in the PRC now exceeds the number of ICBM 
launchers in the U.S.
    Just like the ground leg, the air and sea legs of the PRC's nuclear 
triad are now armed with newly developed weapon systems. The air-
refuelable H-6N bomber is armed with new nuclear-capable cruise 
missiles and air-launched ballistic missiles that may be nuclear 
capable, and the PRC is building a new stealth strategic bomber with 
global reach. The PRC's six JIN-class ballistic missile submarines 
(SSBNs) are now being equipped with the new third-generation JL-3 SLBM 
capable of ranging CONUS. PRC strategists also highlight their 
country's perceived need for lower-yield nuclear weapons. 
Significantly, the PRC's investment in lower-yield, precision systems 
with theater ranges points to investment in asymmetric capabilities 
that could be employed coercively during an escalation crisis, similar 
to Russia's irresponsible nuclear saber-rattling during its war against 
Ukraine. This presents the United States with a deterrence challenge 
that must be addressed with a range of U.S. capabilities, both 
conventional and nuclear. The PRC currently has an arsenal of 
approximately 1,000 medium- and intermediate-range ballistic missiles, 
many of which are dual capable (i.e., able to be armed by either 
conventional or nuclear warheads) and able to inflict significant 
damage to United States, Allied, and partner forces in the Indo-
Pacific.
    The PRC's 2021 test of a hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) with FOB 
capability exemplifies its pursuit of weapons systems with implications 
for strategic stability. FOB systems use a low earth orbit to deliver a 
warhead most of the way to its target destination, deorbiting just 
before reaching its target. These systems represent a more challenging 
threat because their non-ballistic trajectories complicate missile 
detection and tracking, and degrade the target country's ability to 
characterize the scale of an attack.
    The trajectory of the PRC's nuclear advancements points to a large, 
diverse nuclear arsenal with a first-strike offensive capability and a 
high degree of survivability, reliability, and effectiveness. When 
considered in the context of its heavy investment in NC3, as well as 
increased readiness, the PRC's nuclear modernization highlights 
emergent capabilities that could provide it with a spectrum of first-
strike offensive options before and during a crisis or conventional 
conflict. The PRC may believe that nuclear weapons represent a key 
component of its counter-intervention strategy and could use these 
weapons coercively against our Nation, Allies, or partners.
Russian Federation
    Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine is a violent attempt at 
territorial seizure that aims to undermine the rules-based 
international order with conventional force backed by nuclear coercion. 
Russia's nuclear rhetoric is underpinned by its nuclear arsenal, which 
is the largest and most diverse in the world. Russia continues to 
flight test its new heavy ICBM, the SS-X-29 Sarmat, with plans to begin 
fielding it in 2023 and eventually replace the legacy SS-18 heavy ICBM. 
With Sarmat, Russia joins the PRC in developing ICBMs that use at least 
partial orbital trajectories. Russia also continues to field new 
Dolgorukiy-class SSBNs, armed with the new SS-N-32 Bulava SLBM, and 
Severodvinsk-class nuclear-powered cruise missile submarines.
    Russia's significant investment in launch platforms and systems not 
subject to the New START Treaty (NST) provides it with increasingly 
diverse and flexible nuclear deterrence options. Russia now fields 
nuclear-capable hypersonic systems such as the Avangard HGV, the 
Tsirkon land-attack cruise missile, and the Kinzhal air-launched 
ballistic missile, the last of which Russia has employed in Ukraine 
with conventional warheads. Russia also has a stockpile of 
approximately 2,000 theater nuclear weapons that does not fall under 
the limits established by the NST.
    The continued degradation of Russian conventional capability in 
Ukraine will likely increase Russia's reliance on its nuclear arsenal. 
This phenomenon, along with the PRC's rapid breakout and development of 
capabilities that present a similar deterrence challenge, underscores 
the increased perceived utility of nuclear weapons in the contemporary 
environment. The United States faces a complex, multipolar nuclear 
world that requires concerted U.S. effort to address these deterrence 
challenges, strengthen assurance to our allies and partners, and 
prevent proliferation.
Democratic People's Republic of Korea
    The DPRK, an increasing security challenge to the United States and 
our allies, is capable of striking regional allies with nuclear weapons 
and is an emerging threat to CONUS. The DPRK's advancing missile and 
nuclear programs are destabilizing and highlight the critical role of 
USSTRATCOM's deterrence and assurance mission.
    The DPRK's nuclear-capable ballistic missile research and 
development has continued with an unprecedented number of missile 
launches in 2022. The DPRK's continued development of ICBMs, SLBMs, and 
Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles demonstrates its intention to 
bolster its nuclear delivery capability. The DPRK is also developing 
new capabilities such as HSWs and MIRVs, and its new Hwasong-17 ICBM 
has the potential to reach CONUS. The DPRK is also diversifying launch 
platforms, and has tested rail, submarine, and ground-mobile missiles. 
These advancing nuclear capabilities place pressure on allied faith in 
our extended deterrence commitments. The DPRK illustrates that nuclear 
and weapons of mass destruction threats to the United States and our 
allies are not limited to the PRC and Russia.
                         integrated deterrence
    We are addressing these threats through integrated deterrence. As 
the NDS articulates, integrated deterrence spans all domains and 
capabilities and is backstopped by a safe, secure, and effective 
nuclear deterrent. USSTRATCOM's role, however, is not limited to 
nuclear plans and operations. USSTRATCOM's mission, to deter strategic 
attack--not just nuclear attack--against our Nation and allies, 
includes many components. Correspondingly, our new concepts and plans 
must account for nuclear, long-range conventional, space, 
electromagnetic spectrum, and cyberspace capabilities. Crucially, DOD's 
plans must integrate all capabilities across the spectrum of conflict.
    USSTRATCOM also plays a vital role in assuring allies and partners. 
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) calls the strategic 
forces of the Alliance, particularly those provided by the U.S., ``the 
supreme guarantee of the Alliance's security.'' In the Indo-Pacific, 
our allies similarly acknowledge the importance of our strategic 
deterrent. Examples of operations and activities include U.S. bomber 
operations with allies, SSBN port visits, and exercises such as 
Steadfast Noon, NATO's annual nuclear exercise.
    The war in Ukraine, combined with the PRC's rapid nuclear arsenal 
expansion and the DPRK's growing nuclear capabilities, will likely make 
longstanding United States nonproliferation goals more challenging. For 
70 years, U.S. extended deterrence commitments have functioned as one 
of the most important factors limiting the proliferation of nuclear 
weapons. In the current environment, the credibility of U.S. extended 
deterrence commitments is even more vital to nuclear nonproliferation 
goals. Critically, there must be no perception of a threshold below 
which an adversary may believe it could employ nuclear weapons, such as 
non-treaty accountable, lower-yield, theater weapons, to obtain a 
benefit.
            what usstratcom needs to accomplish its mission
    I urge Congress, the Department, and the services to sustain their 
decades-long support for critical national security capabilities, 
including the infrastructure needed to support these programs. The 
recapitalization of our triad is a once in every-other-generation event 
that will ensure we have capable forces into the 2080's to defend the 
U.S. Homeland and deter strategic attack globally. I am closely 
monitoring the transition of our major programs: Ohio to Columbia, D5 
LE to D5 LE2, Minuteman III to Sentinel, B-2 to B-21, Air Launched 
Cruise Missile (ALCM) to LRSO, and modernization of NC3 capabilities. 
It is essential to sustain our current platforms until new systems are 
at full operational capability. Correspondingly, we are coordinating 
with the services on efforts to mitigate operational impacts should 
delays occur in the delivery timeline for new capabilities.
           nuclear command, control, and communications (nc3)
    The NC3 enterprise is essential to the President's ability to 
command and control the Nation's nuclear forces. Acknowledgement of 
this vital mission and the unique challenges facing NC3 modernization 
were the impetus behind the Secretary of Defense's establishment of my 
role as the DOD NC3 Enterprise Lead in 2018. With these 
responsibilities and authorities, we are taking a holistic enterprise 
approach to develop and deliver the next generation of NC3--a flexible, 
resilient, and assured architecture spanning all domains and enhancing 
strategic deterrence.
NC3 Next Generation / Modernization
    The modernization of the NC3 enterprise underpins the nuclear triad 
and sustains assured command and control capabilities in the evolving 
threat environment. We are partnering with NC3 stakeholders in the 
Office of the Secretary of Defense and levying requirements on the 
services to modernize all NC3 capability areas, integrating global 
nuclear forces with the means to provide strategic deterrence.
    In the next 5 years, we will transition from Milstar to the 
Advanced Extremely High Frequency satellite constellation, gaining 
greater capacity, survivable worldwide NC3 reach, and the ability to 
provide direction to our forces in degraded environments. Our national 
leadership conferencing, currently using a voice-only legacy 
technology, will transition to voice and video displays. In our warning 
layer, we are moving away from the Defense Support Program and toward 
the Space Based Infrared System to maximize warning time. Efforts are 
already underway on our submarines, E-6B aircraft, and bombers to 
replace previous generation radios with improved systems that are more 
resilient to jamming and other electromagnetic effects.
    In the next 10 years, the launch and use of Next Generation 
Overhead Persistent Infrared geosynchronous and polar satellites will 
replace legacy systems with a space-based missile warning constellation 
to detect and track threats around the globe. The Space Development 
Agency's Proliferated Warfighting Space Architecture is aimed at 
building a constellation of satellites in low and medium earth orbit 
that can monitor maneuvering hypersonic missiles flying below the range 
of today's ballistic missile detection satellites and above the radar 
of terminal-phase targeting systems. These satellites will complement 
other efforts to detect and track maneuvering hypersonic missiles that 
are difficult targets for current missile warning capabilities. 
Finally, we will use polar satellite communications capability with the 
Enhanced Polar System Recapitalization program to provide message 
relay. Our submarines, E-6B aircraft, bombers, and missile fields will 
receive communication systems that increase survivability of weapon 
systems in a crisis situation. We are focused on achieving our vision--
a modernized NC3 enterprise that remains resilient, reliable, and 
available at all times and under the worst conditions.
NC3 Cybersecurity and Technological Improvements
    We have confidence in our ability to protect, defend, and execute 
the nuclear deterrent mission. The resilience and redundancies of the 
systems comprising the Nuclear Command and Control System, combined 
with ongoing cybersecurity enhancements, ensure our ability to respond 
under adverse cyber conditions.
E-4B Nightwatch
    The E-4B Nightwatch aircraft serves as the National Airborne 
Operations Center and is a key component of the National Military 
Command System for the President, Secretary of Defense, and Joint 
Chiefs of Staff. The E-4B recapitalization program--the Survivable 
Airborne Operations Center--will serve as the next generation airborne 
command center platform. In case of national emergency or destruction 
of ground command and control centers, the aircraft provides a highly 
survivable command, control and communications center to direct U.S. 
forces, execute emergency war orders and coordinate actions by civil 
authorities. For these reasons, we must continue to develop and deliver 
this platform on time to prevent any capability gaps associated with 
this important national asset.
E-6B Mercury
    The E-6B Mercury accomplishes two missions: Emergency Action 
Message (EAM) relay to all legs of the nuclear triad (Take Charge and 
Move Out/TACAMO) and an alternate USSTRATCOM command center providing 
EAM origination and ICBM secondary launch capability (Looking Glass). 
E-XX is the follow-on platform to the E-6B airframe and will execute 
the TACAMO mission only. In coordination with the Office of the 
Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment and the Joint 
Staff, USSTRATCOM and the NC3 Enterprise Center are conducting an 
evaluation of alternatives (EOA) to consider all missions and platforms 
to deliver the Looking Glass capabilities currently performed by the E-
6B. Recommendations from the EOA should be available by mid-summer. We 
must complete recapitalization by the E-6B's projected end of service 
life in fiscal year 2038.
                      land-based triad component]
    The ICBM remains our country's most responsive option for strategic 
deterrence. The Minuteman III (MMIII) force provides a responsive, 
highly reliable deterrent capability, supported by a secure command and 
control system. Geographically dispersed ICBMs deny potential 
adversaries the possibility of a successful first strike.
    MMIII's weapon system replacement, the LGM-35A Sentinel ICBM, will 
deliver MMIII's key attributes while enhancing platform security, 
streamlining maintenance processes, and delivering greater operational 
capability needed for the evolving threat environment. Sentinel's 
program scope and scale cannot be overstated--our first fully 
integrated ICBM platform includes the flight system, weapon system, C2, 
ground launch systems, and facilities. The Sentinel program is pursuing 
mature, low-risk technologies, design modularity, and an open system 
architecture using state-of-the-art model-based systems engineering. 
Sentinel will meet our current needs, while allowing affordable future 
technology insertion to address emerging threats. USSTRATCOM is 
actively supporting the Sentinel engineering and manufacturing 
development process and looks forward to the first Sentinel 
developmental flight test. Sentinel will deploy with numerous 
advantages over MMIII and will provide a credible deterrent late into 
this century. Sentinel fielding is a whole-of-government endeavor. We 
appreciate continued congressional support, both for Sentinel and 
sustainment of MMIII.
                       sea-based triad component
    The Navy's Ohio-class SSBN fleet, equipped with the Trident II D5 
SLBM, patrols the world's oceans undetected, providing an assured 
second strike capability in any scenario. Our SSBN fleet continues to 
provide a resilient, reliable, and survivable deterrent. However, the 
life of the Ohio-class SSBN fleet has been extended from a planned 30 
years to an unprecedented 42 years. The average age of the SSBN fleet 
is now 32 years. As the hulls continue to age, the Ohio-class will face 
sustainment and readiness challenges until it is replaced by the 
Columbia-class. Similar to Minuteman III, we must maintain Ohio-class 
hulls until the Columbia is available. The Navy has already invested in 
the Integrated Enterprise Plan to shorten construction timelines for 
Columbia hulls two through 12 to meet USSTRATCOM at-sea requirements. 
Continued investment in revitalizing our shipbuilding industry is a 
national security imperative.
    The first Columbia-class submarine must achieve its initial 
strategic deterrent patrol in fiscal year 2031 with an initial loadout 
of D5 LE missiles and a steady transition to the D5 LE2. The program of 
record delivers at least 12 SSBNs--the absolute minimum required to 
meet sustainment requirements. A life-of-hull reactor and shorter 
planned major maintenance periods are intended to deliver greater 
operational availability. Columbia will deliver improved tactical and 
sonar systems, electric propulsion drive, and advanced hull coating to 
maintain U.S. undersea dominance.
    The Trident II D5 LE2 program will field a modern, reliable, 
flexible, and effective missile capable of adapting to emerging threats 
and is required to meet Columbia-class SLBM loadout requirements. 
Stable funding for D5LE2 is vital to maintaining program benchmarks and 
ensuring a viable SSBN deterrent through the 2080's. Columbia's 
ultimate success depends on a missile that is both capable and 
flexible.
    Additionally, shore infrastructure readiness is fundamental to 
supporting current Ohio-class SSBN and future Columbia-class SSBN 
operations. Provision of military construction and operation & 
maintenance funding facilitates the Navy's modernization of shore 
infrastructure supporting the nuclear deterrence mission. One immediate 
example is the modernization and expansion of the SSBN training and 
maintenance facilities in Kings Bay. These facilities are critical for 
maximizing the combat readiness of SSBNs and their crews daily, 
requiring a commitment to multiple years of funding.
Anti-Submarine Warfare
    Anti-submarine warfare threats continue to evolve. The Navy's 
Integrated Undersea Surveillance System (IUSS) provides vital 
information concerning adversary submarine and surface ship operations, 
enabling U.S. forces to maintain favorable tactical and strategic 
positions while supporting deterrent patrol operations. Surveillance 
performed by IUSS also provides the theater undersea warfare commander 
situational awareness required for maritime defense of the Homeland. 
Advances in adversary submarine stealth underscore the importance of 
IUSS recapitalization.
    Our submarines are formidable weapon systems; however, we must 
address potential adversaries' anti-submarine warfare advances to 
maintain an effective and viable SSBN fleet well into the future. 
Adversary investments in submarine quieting, acoustic arrays, and 
processing capabilities may challenge our acoustic superiority in the 
future and consequently, SSBN survivability. Development and employment 
of advanced sonar sensors, advanced materials science and coatings, and 
other efforts within the Navy's Acoustic Superiority Program are vital 
to maintain our undersea advantage.
                       air-based triad component
    The bomber fleet is our most flexible and visible leg of the triad. 
We are the only country with the capability to provide long-range 
bombers in support of our allies and partners, enabling the U.S. to 
signal resolve while providing a flexible option to de-escalate a 
conflict or crisis. In a force employment model known as the Bomber 
Task Force (BTF), USSTRATCOM supports global deterrence and assurance 
objectives. BTFs allow dynamic employment of the Joint Force and clear 
messaging as potential adversaries watch these missions closely. As 
bombers conduct missions throughout the globe, they enhance national 
objectives by demonstrating unity with allies and partners, and testing 
interoperability. As a complement to the Air Force's Agile Combat 
Employment (ACE) concept, we must consider increasing forward-based 
maintenance capability to support persistent, episodic global presence 
while retaining the ability to increase nuclear readiness posture as 
needed. As we sustain legacy systems and field new capabilities, it 
will be important to invest in bomber support forces and infrastructure 
to adequately sustain flexibility and effective nuclear deterrence 
posture.
B-52H Sustainment
    The B-52H continues on as the workhorse of our bomber fleet. The B-
52's longevity is a testament to its engineers and maintenance 
professionals, but it must be modernized to remain in service into the 
2050s. Essential B-52 upgrades include the Commercial Engine 
Replacement Program (CERP), Radar Modernization Plan, global 
positioning system military code signal integration, and survivable NC3 
communications equipment. These improvements will keep the B-52 flying 
and able to pace the evolving threat. CERP will replace the B-52's 
1960's-era TF-33 engines, which will enable longer unrefueled range, 
reduce emissions, and address supply chain issues afflicting the legacy 
engines. The B-52's very low frequency and advanced extremely high 
frequency modernization programs will provide mission critical, beyond-
line-of-sight connectivity.
B-2 Sustainment
    The B-2 fleet remains the world's only low-observable bomber, able 
to penetrate denied environments while employing a wide variety of 
munitions against high-value strategic targets. The DOD must protect 
this unique operational advantage as the Air Force transitions from the 
B-2 to the B-21 fleet. Successful transition requires full funding for 
B-2 sustainment and modernization programs until the B-21 completes 
development and certification for both conventional and nuclear 
missions, and is fielded in sufficient numbers to preclude any 
capability gap.
B-21
    The B-21 Raider will provide both a conventional and nuclear-
capable bomber supporting the triad with strategic and operational 
flexibility across a wide range of military objectives. The program is 
on track to meet USSTRATCOM operational requirements, and continues to 
successfully execute within cost, schedule, and performance goals. The 
B-21 will be the backbone of our future bomber force, providing a 
penetrating platform with the range, access, and payload to go anywhere 
needed in the world. Consistent funding of the Air Force's B-21 program 
is required to prevent operational shortfalls in the bomber force and 
ensure delivery of this critical combat capability.
Air-Delivered Weapons
    The air-delivered weapons portfolio consists of the ALCM, the B83-1 
gravity bomb, and the B61 family of weapons, providing a mix of 
standoff and direct attack munitions to meet near-term operational 
requirements. The ALCM provides current stand-off capability to the 
strategic bomber force, but is reaching its end-of-life. LRSO will 
replace the ALCM as our country's sole air-delivered standoff nuclear 
capability. It will provide the President with flexible and scalable 
options, and is capable of penetrating and surviving against advanced 
air defenses--a key attribute and important component in USSTRATCOM 
operational plans. The LRSO is complementary to the ICBM and SSBN 
recapitalization programs and an important contribution to strategic 
stability. The B61-12 will soon replace most previous versions of the 
B61, providing a modernized weapon with greater accuracy and increased 
flexibility. Finally, USSTRATCOM is actively supporting the National 
Defense Authorization Act requirement to conduct a study on options to 
hold at risk hard and deeply buried targets.
Tanker Support
    A robust tanker fleet is essential to sustaining global reach for 
all USSTRATCOM missions. The 65 year-old KC-135 is the backbone of the 
Air Force's air refueling force but is facing increasing maintenance 
and sustainment issues. Limited air-refueling aircraft increases bomber 
response timing and constrains bomber deterrence posture agility. 
Concurrent mission demands between strategic, theater, and homeland 
defense require continued tanker modernization and expansion efforts. 
USSTRATCOM fully endorses and supports the Air Force's effort to 
modernize and sustain the tanker fleet, including certification of the 
KC-46 to support the nuclear mission. A conflict with a peer adversary 
would put previously unseen demands on the tanker force.
      weapons infrastructure and nuclear security enterprise (nse)
    Today's nuclear weapon stockpile remains safe, secure, and 
effective. However, our country has not conducted a large-scale weapons 
modernization in over 2 decades. Stockpile and infrastructure 
modernization must ensure our systems are capable of pacing and 
negating adversary threats to our Nation, Allies, and partners. Over 
the past 5 years we have made significant investments in the NSE, but 
most programs take a decade or longer to field a meaningful capability.
    The NNSA, as part of and informed by the Nuclear Weapons Council 
(NWC), has developed a comprehensive plan to put these identified 
capacities and capabilities in-place. When realized, it will enable our 
country to sustain and modernize the nuclear weapons stockpile to meet 
strategic deterrence needs. In the interim, I look forward to working 
with NNSA and other NWC partners to find the best solutions to mitigate 
operational risks. I commend Congress for its support of the NNSA's 
budget for weapons activities for fiscal year 2023. Stockpile and NSE 
programs can take a decade or more to deliver and will require 
consistent, uninterrupted funding to provide the needed capacities and 
capabilities on time to sustain and modernize the strategic deterrent 
force. We must continue to look for ways to accelerate our stockpile 
and NSE modernization and recapitalization programs.
    As we shift focus beyond life extension to modernizing existing 
weapons and fielding new systems, we must overcome challenges that 
delay program execution. There are many NSE programs with just-in-time 
schedules or that are late-to-need, including pit production, uranium 
processing, and radiation case manufacturing. Failure to execute and 
deliver timely NSE modernization programs results in accumulation of 
operational risk by requiring the retention of aging weapons and 
components in the stockpile decades longer than intended. In fiscal 
year 2022, the NSE took action on a number of issues impacting the 
readiness and modernization of the nuclear deterrent force. Some 
areas--for example, the W93, B61-12, and W88 Alt 370--saw progress, 
while others such as the W80-4 and W87-1 stockpile modernization 
programs are experiencing milestone delays and increased schedule risk. 
I look forward to working with NNSA and other NWC partners to improve 
our rates of success in these latter areas.
    Production of essential components is a critical issue. NNSA has 
identified critical capability gaps affecting components essential for 
stockpile modernization. It is also vital that the NSE re-establishes a 
plutonium pit manufacturing capability of no less than 80 pits per year 
as close to 2030 as possible. Weapon production is a multi-decade task 
that must address current enterprise limitations as we simultaneously 
modernize the stockpile, infrastructure, and platforms while sustaining 
the current force until it can be replaced.
    For over a decade, our adversaries have dedicated significant 
resources to modernizing and expanding their nuclear capabilities. As 
our systems continue to age, funding a modern stockpile, supporting 
infrastructure, and a robust science, technology, and engineering base 
is essential.
                            nuclear security
    Nuclear security continues to be one of my top priorities; we will 
commit the resources required to protect our fielded weapons, weapon 
platforms, and personnel. Adhering to the Nuclear Weapon Security 
Standard ensures denial of unauthorized access to nuclear weapons and 
prevents loss of custody. A defense-in-depth strategy starts at every 
nuclear weapon and builds outward with a cohesive design to deter, 
detect, delay, deny, and defeat security threats.
MH-139A Grey Wolf Replacement Helicopter
    The Joint Force achieved a significant ICBM security milestone with 
the Air Force's award of a contract to replace the UH-1N helicopter 
fleet with the new MH-139A ``Grey Wolf.'' The MH-139A offers enhanced 
speed, range, endurance, payload, and survivability versus the UH-1N. 
We will continue to work with the Services to deliver this capability.
Countering Small Unmanned Systems
    The rapid proliferation and growing technological sophistication of 
small unmanned systems is an increasing threat to the nuclear 
enterprise. To counter the threat, the Department continues to field 
Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft Systems (C-sUAS) capabilities and is 
refining tactics, techniques, and procedures. Similarly, the 
advancement of unmanned surface and underwater vehicles may soon emerge 
as a threat to our SSBNs and supporting infrastructure, requiring a 
comprehensive force protection system to defend both pier-side and in-
transit SSBNs.
Weapon Generation Facility (WGF)
    As we modernize nuclear weapons and platforms, the Air Force will 
replace aging weapon storage areas with new WGFs which are vital to 
security, sustainment, and fielding of the Sentinel, B-21, and LRSO 
triad modernization programs, and their associated weapons. The Air 
Force will conduct weapon maintenance, storage operations, and (as 
required) weapons generation activities in a single reinforced WGF 
facility at each strategic base. This will further increase security, 
recapitalize aging infrastructure, and enhance efficiency throughout 
the mission. The WGFs are a critical part of the larger nuclear 
modernization effort and must be fully funded to deliver on time in 
support of each program of record delivery schedule.
           joint electromagnetic spectrum operations (jemso)
    Per the Unified Command Plan (UCP), CDRUSSTRATCOM is responsible 
for advocating for JEMSO and electromagnetic warfare capabilities, 
providing contingency electronic warfare support to other CCMDs, and 
supporting CCMD joint training and planning related to controlling the 
EMS. Potential adversaries understand our dependency upon the EMS and 
have developed technology to effectively contest our use of it. 
Additionally, increased civil and commercial use of spectrum bandwidth 
significantly congests the EMS and constrains DOD use. Multiple 
USSTRATCOM assessments have identified JEMSO readiness shortfalls, 
which are growing. Our adversaries have dramatically increased their 
offensive and defensive capabilities in recent years; the DOD must 
similarly improve our ability to operate in a degraded electromagnetic 
warfare environment.
    We must continue to pursue a DOD-wide effort to achieve EMS 
superiority and mission success. To support the goals of the DOD EMS 
Superiority Strategy, USSTRATCOM is executing 12 assigned tasks, 
including establishing an organization, led by a 2-star, called the 
Joint Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations Center (JEC). The JEC will 
lead execution of the 11 other USSTRATCOM assigned DOD EMS Superiority 
Strategy tasks. Additionally, USSTRATCOM has led development of JEMSO 
cells at other CCMDs to enable these functions. We are also working 
with the DOD Chief Information Officer to develop a software system for 
use by CCMD JEMSO cells in planning, coordinating, and controlling the 
EMS. Following multiple assessments from Northern Edge--USINDOPACOM's 
tier 1 exercise--USSTRATCOM is pursuing accreditation authorities for 
Joint Force EMSO readiness that will help close capability gaps. 
USSTRATCOM is also establishing an EMSO training and education 
capability to coordinate DOD EMS joint training, streamline training 
processes, and promote standardization.
                            missile defense
    Missile defense capabilities are a key part of integrated 
deterrence to deny our potential adversaries coercive abilities or the 
benefit of attacks against the Homeland, Allies, and partners. The 
proliferation of missile technology and employment techniques designed 
to circumvent missile defenses demands a Department-wide missile defeat 
approach with continued investment in systems integration and 
collaboration with Allies and partners. This comprehensive approach 
uses the entire range of available activities to counter the 
development, acquisition, proliferation, and use of adversary offensive 
missiles of all types, as well as limiting damage from such use. An 
important element of this approach is integration of space-and 
terrestrial-based sensors for warning, attribution, and tracking of 
ballistic, maneuvering, hypersonic, cruise missile, and UAS threats to 
optimize the effectiveness of our limited inventory of kinetic 
interceptors. A comprehensive sensor architecture that gives commanders 
and civilian leaders situational awareness over all threats and 
incursions to our air and space domains is imperative.
    Cruise missiles continue to offer adversaries ways to generate 
strategic effects. USSTRATCOM is working closely with NORAD/USNORTHCOM, 
USINDOPACOM, and USSPACECOM to explore capabilities to enhance homeland 
defense and deter attack. Additionally, the Missile Defense Agency, 
Services, and CCMDs continue to develop and field defenses that protect 
the Homeland and deployed forces while reassuring and defending our 
Allies and partners. We are committed to improving the Ground-based 
Midcourse Defense system and developing the Next-Generation Interceptor 
to augment and potentially replace the Ground Based Interceptor.
                           hypersonic weapons
    Long-range conventional hypersonic weapons will provide senior 
leadership additional strike options to hold distant and/or defended 
high-value, time-sensitive targets at risk without crossing the nuclear 
threshold. Conventional HSWs ensure long-range power projection in 
contested environments and enables more efficient and effective 
application of the nuclear force. While HSWs are not a replacement for 
nuclear weapons, these systems show promise as the conventional 
complement that the nuclear force needs to expand integrated deterrence 
options.
    The ability to quickly strike defended targets at long range is an 
important capability that the Joint Force and multiple CCMDs require. 
Rapid development and fielding of conventional HSWs is a top USSTRATCOM 
priority. The goal of fielding the first offensive hypersonic strike 
system is on the horizon with the Army scheduled to field a Long-Range 
Hypersonic Weapon battery in late 2023, followed by the Navy 
Conventional Prompt Strike program beginning in the mid-2020s. The Air 
Force has demonstrated successes in the Air-launched Rapid Response 
Weapon program and hypersonic cruise missile technology pathfinder 
efforts. A robust scientific and industrial base is vital to ensure 
that HSWs are fielded in sufficient quantities. Additionally, a program 
for continuous technological improvement is important to meet the 
evolving security environment over the coming decades.
    USSTRATCOM is committed to ensuring HSWs are ready to employ on day 
one of fielding as these weapons directly contribute to USSTRATCOM's 
UCP-assigned strategic deterrence and global strike responsibilities. 
To operationalize these new capabilities in the near term, we are 
working across the Department to develop a concept of operation for HSW 
support to integrated deterrence. USSTRATCOM is working through policy, 
planning, and C2 processes, and--in conjunction with the services and 
other CCMDs--is testing HSWs through a rigorous exercise program. 
Hypersonic weapons will have an immediate impact to operational plans 
by deterring and holding adversaries at risk while providing the Nation 
with credible, strategic, non-nuclear response options when faced with 
armed conflict. Additionally, HSW-related agreements with allies will 
further reinforce collective security, promote interoperability, and 
facilitate optimal deployment of these capabilities.
                         wargames and exercises
    Wargames, exercises, and rehearsals of concept continue to refine 
how we demonstrate joint capacity, capability, interoperability, and 
integrated deterrence across the globe. Last year, USSTRATCOM conducted 
over 380 NC3-focused exercises and wargame events focused on 
coordination with national-level civilian and military leadership, 
other CCMDs, allies, components, and the interagency. These events 
integrated advanced weapons, tested new capabilities, and improved 
interoperability while providing the opportunity to assess application 
of future force concepts.
                        defense industrial base
    Across America, industries--including but not limited to the 
defense industry--are grappling with capacity issues stemming from 
shortages of skilled labor, global supply chain delays, inflation, and 
a shortage of manufacturing facilities. This, combined with a smaller 
specialized workforce, transition to offshore supply chains, the need 
to produce quickly in volume, and costs associated with modern 
technologies, creates additional program vulnerabilities. These program 
risks are simple: cost and schedule.
    I applaud Congress for its work in attempting to mitigate these 
challenges with the defense industrial base, both in the near term and 
longer term. Congress, DOD, and industry must find ways to achieve 
requirements despite current challenges. As Undersecretary of Defense 
for Acquisition and Sustainment William LaPlante has said, ``production 
is deterrence.'' Congress's efforts to on-shore critical components 
with national security implications, its attention to revitalization of 
the shipbuilding industry, and investment in infrastructure are all 
welcome developments. DOD and industry should deepen an already strong 
partnership. For example, the Department, through its Industrial Base 
Analysis and Sustainment program, established the National Imperative 
for Industrial Skills to invest in industrial workforce development 
needs. We should also design contracts, especially with large programs, 
to ensure industry accountability for performance, schedule, and cost, 
with shared risk for both DOD and industry. The B-21 program is an 
example of effective contract structuring which incentivizes industry 
to partner with government to identify, incentivize, and mitigate risks 
early to achieve mutually beneficial outcomes. For items such as 
critical munitions, we can speed production by taking advantage of new 
authorities such as multiyear procurement contracts. As Dr. LaPlante 
has noted, co-production agreements with Allies and partners are part 
of integrated deterrence. In the longer term, I encourage further work 
with the services to continue to expand industry's capability, 
capacity, flexibility, and responsiveness.
                               conclusion
    The cornerstone of our national defense remains deterrence, and we 
will continue USSTRATCOM's vital work during turbulent times. The post-
cold war era is over and a competition is underway among major powers 
to shape the next chapter. In this environment, USSTRATCOM stands ready 
to face complex challenges in today's global strategic environment 
while positioning for the future. I am proud to lead an elite team that 
stands ready for a new era of strategic competition. Together with our 
people, capabilities, allies, and partners, there is nothing that we 
cannot accomplish.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General Cotton. General 
Dickinson, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES H. DICKINSON, USA COMMANDER, UNITED 
                      STATES SPACE COMMAND

    General Dickinson. Thank you, Chairman Reed and Ranking 
Member Wicker. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen of the 
Committee. It remains my distinct honor to represent the 18,000 
military servicemen and women, civilians and families of United 
States Space Command, who are serving our great Nation around 
the world today.
    Thank you for this opportunity to testify before this 
Committee. I am proud to lead such a talented and patriotic 
group of joint space professionals. Their expertise, diversity, 
and creativity underpin our strength and effectiveness. Of all 
the elements of military space power, our most valued asset is 
and always will be our great people.
    My provisional headquarters achieved initial operational 
capability in just 2 years and we will reach full operational 
capability through the disciplined initiative of our great 
people. Spacepower enables our way of life and is a critical 
component of our national security.
    I thank Congress for its support to advance America's 
primacy in space. We must maintain our position of advantage in 
the space domain and ensure it remains sustainable, safe, 
stable, and secure for all.
    The Joint Force relies on space-based capabilities to 
project and employee power. China and Russia consider this 
dependency a soft underbelly and seek to exploit it. They 
intend to limit our access to space during crisis and conflict, 
and they are fielding capabilities to that effect.
    Our strategic competitors' irresponsible actions have 
transformed space into a highly contested domain. We must 
prevent today's strategic competition from growing into a 
conflict in space. We achieve this by deterring aggression, 
defending national interests, and if necessary, prevailing in 
any domain.
    U.S. Space Command contributes to integrated deterrence by 
preserving freedom of action in space and by providing critical 
support to the rest of the Joint Force. Our mission spans the 
spectrum of conflict and in every domain. For example, we are 
creating concepts to further integrate space, cyber, and 
special operations to generate asymmetrical advantages around 
the world.
    Additionally, our Protect and Defend Mission involves all 
three segments of the space architecture, the ground link and 
space vehicle, an approach that requires and demands all domain 
solutions. So, my command's planning horizon is near term. We 
must be ready to fight today. The threat will not wait.
    To this end, we are leveraging the Joint Force, our allies 
and partners to integrate and maximize the capabilities that we 
have today. At the same time, we look forward to the 
capabilities the services are developing for the future fight. 
As we observe in Ukraine, commercial space assets are a 
significant force multiplier.
    For years, our commercial mission partners have augmented 
our satellite communications and provide enhancements to our 
Space Domain Awareness Sensor Network. Commercial integration 
is absolutely critical to our mission success. Today's hearing 
will emphasize the United States' resolve to maintain our 
leadership and position of advantage in the space domain.
    But before I address the Committee's questions, I want to 
reiterate and emphasize to the American people my unwavering 
pledge that U.S. Space Command will ensure that there is never 
a day without space. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of General James H. Dickinson 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General James H. Dickinson
                              introduction
    On behalf of the 18,000 men and women of the 11th combatant 
command, U.S. Space Command, it is my honor and pleasure to testify 
before the Committee. Our team is operating around the world providing 
satellite communication, space domain awareness, offensive and 
defensive space control effects, and positioning, navigation, and 
timing (PNT) services 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days per year. 
Space is fundamental to all joint military operations as outlined in 
the National Defense Strategy. It is also critical to our way of life 
enabling modern banking transactions, navigation, communication and so 
many other capabilities vital to our society and economy. Space touches 
our lives every day.
    As the complexity of this domain grows, we must grow capability to 
provide the President and Secretary of Defense with options to deliver 
operational and strategic effects to achieve national objectives. 
Today, access to space is increasingly contested and congested. U.S. 
adversaries are developing, testing, demonstrating, and fielding a wide 
range of counterspace capabilities to degrade or deny the ability for 
the U.S. military to leverage critical space-based services. As of this 
year there are 8,225 satellites in low Earth orbit and nearly 1,000 
satellites in geosynchronous Earth orbit (GEO).
    My Command Strategy focuses on 3 areas to address the contested and 
congested environment: Strengthening Relationships and Attracting New 
Partners; Integrating Commercial, Interagency, and Academic 
Organizations; and, Building and Maintaining Competitive Advantage. The 
Command's disciplined focus on these areas has built irreversible 
momentum toward full operational capability and will ensure we deliver 
on our promise that there will never be a day without space.
                          challenges in space
    Challenges to a safe, secure, stable, and sustainable space domain 
are increasing. Both the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the 
Russian Federation are fielding capabilities that aim to hold United 
States, Allied, and partner space assets at risk. North Korea and Iran 
are in the early stages of developing their space enterprise.
    The PRC conducted the first fractional orbital launch of an ICBM 
with a hypersonic glide vehicle in mid-2021. This system could enable 
the PRC to rapidly launch weapons that challenge missile warning and 
missile defense architectures.
    Russia's November 15, 2021 destructive anti-satellite (ASAT) 
missile test and its subsequent acts in connection with its further 
invasion of Ukraine threaten to foreshadow the future of warfare and 
national security. Assured space-based assets, commercial space 
capabilities, and space domain awareness are imperative to global 
security. Russian interference with space-based capabilities during its 
invasion of Ukraine and continued threats to carry out ``retaliation'' 
against commercial satellite infrastructure demonstrate a willingness 
to employ counterspace capabilities to gain military advantage. 
Russia's cyber attacks in late February 2022 against commercial 
satellite communications networks to disrupt Ukrainian command and 
control during the invasion and spillover impacts into other European 
countries--highlighted an important nexus between government and 
private sector equities in space.
    These events exemplify the PRC and Russian commitment to fielding 
diverse counterspace capabilities across multiple domains including 
cyberspace, electronic warfare, directed energy, anti-satellite 
missiles, and potentially even space-to-ground weapons. Current PRC and 
Russian counterspace capabilities range from temporarily deceiving, 
disrupting, or denying space services, to permanently degrading or 
destroying space-based capabilities. All are designed to deter U.S. 
response to conflict or crisis and ultimately diminish U.S. influence 
and military effectiveness.
The Pacing Challenge--The People's Republic of China
    The PRC aims to displace United States alliances and security 
partnerships in the Indo-Pacific region, surpass U.S. global influence 
and power, and revise the international order to advance its 
authoritarian interests. Beijing views the United States as 
increasingly determined to contain the PRC as it continues to modernize 
the People's Liberation Army (PLA) into a ``world-class force'' by the 
middle of the century. PRC military strategy remains fixed on the 
concept of ``active defense'' in all domains, including space.
    President Xi views space power as a key to ``great power status'' 
and a cornerstone of the PRC's economic, political, and military 
ambitions. China expects its future wars to be fought mostly outside 
its borders and in the maritime domain. PLA strategy emphasizes the 
role space-based systems will play in such conflicts. Chinese military 
doctrine states that space power is the essential ``glue'' that holds 
together air, sea, and land control and that ``the dominance of space 
has been inseparable from the outcome of war.''
    The PRC continues to strengthen its military space capabilities, 
investing in space-based intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance 
(ISR), satellite communication, and navigation. It is also improving 
satellite meteorology, human spaceflight, and robotic space 
exploration.
    The PRC employs a robust space-based ISR capability designed to 
enhance its worldwide situational awareness. Its ISR satellites provide 
electro-optical and synthetic aperture radar imagery as well as signals 
intelligence data. They are used for military and civilian remote 
sensing and mapping, terrestrial and maritime surveillance, and 
intelligence collection. The PLA owns and operates about half of the 
world's space-based ISR systems. These capabilities support the PLA's 
ability to monitor, track, and target United States and allied forces 
worldwide.
    China's BeiDou navigation system, like the United States Global 
Positioning System (GPS), is operational and provides persistent, all-
weather, and high-accuracy PNT services to users globally. The PLA uses 
BeiDou's PNT to enable force movement and precision-guided munition 
employment. This system also includes messaging and user-tracking 
capabilities that provide the PLA enhanced command and control (C2). 
China's delivery of BeiDou furthered a long-standing goal to reduce 
reliance on foreign satellite communications and navigation systems and 
to export its domestic alternative globally as part of its Belt and 
Road Initiative.
    Today, China can hold United States, Allied, and Partner assets at 
risk in all orbits. The PLA is specifically pursuing capabilities to 
counter United States space assets to achieve space superiority and 
enable PLA freedom of maneuver. Chinese military academics advocate for 
defeating adversaries' PNT, electronic warfare (EW), and ISR to ``blind 
and deafen the enemy.'' The PLA has an operational ground-based ASAT 
missile for low Earth orbit satellites, and is pursuing additional 
anti-satellite weapons capable of destroying satellites up to GEO. The 
PLA has also tested hypersonic glide vehicles aimed at defeating 
traditional missile warning systems and ballistic missile defenses.
    The PRC developed the Shenlong and Tengyun spaceplanes to explore 
reusable technology with enhanced maneuverability. The initial 
prototype, launched in 2020, stayed in orbit for 2 days before 
returning to Earth. A second Shenlong, launched in August 2022, remains 
on orbit today. Payloads on operational versions of these spaceplanes 
could provide enhanced space services that the PLA could integrate into 
its weapons and C2 systems to erode the information advantage of the 
United States and our Allies.
    China launched its SJ-21 satellite on 24 October 2021 and reported 
in open press that its mission was ``to test and verify space debris 
mitigation technologies.'' On 22 January 2022, SJ-21 rendezvoused with 
a defunct and fuel-depleted BeiDou satellite. By 26 January, SJ-21 had 
captured the defunct satellite and pulled it several hundred miles into 
a higher graveyard orbit. The SJ-21 subsequently released the defunct 
BeiDou satellite and returned to geosynchronous orbit. While removing a 
defunct satellite to graveyard orbit may be innocuous, the SJ-21 could 
clearly serve in a counterspace role and hold our geosynchronous 
satellites at risk.
Russian Use of Space and Counterspace
    Russia's use of space and counterspace capabilities during the 
Ukraine conflict validates the Department of Defense's long-held 
understanding of Russian doctrine. Russian space capabilities have 
supported Russian military ground operations and enabled deep precision 
strikes against Ukrainian infrastructure. Media reported on Russian 
jamming of radar observationsites and navigation signals (including 
GPS) serving the region, as well as cyberattacks on Ukrainian and 
European space-enabled communications.
    Russia has developed a suite of counterspace capabilities including 
EW and directed energy weapons to deny, degrade, disrupt, destroy, and 
deceive communications, navigation, and space-based ISR. Its directed 
energy weapons include several ground-based, low-power lasers intended 
to blind satellites temporarily, and high-power lasers developed to 
damage other U.S. satellites permanently.
    Russian cyber attacks in late February 2022 disabled very small 
aperture terminals in Ukraine and across Europe. This included tens of 
thousands of terminals outside of Ukraine that, among other things, 
support wind turbines and provide internet services to private 
citizens. Today, we continue to see cyber actors focusing their efforts 
on our space architecture, that of our Allies, and of our international 
and commercial Partners.
    Russia conducted a destructive direct-ascent ASAT missile test on 
15 November 2021. The resulting explosion generated a debris field that 
will threaten satellites and crewed space stations for decades. In 
contrast to Russia's deeply irresponsible test, the United States 
Government announced in April 2022 that it will commit not to conduct 
destructive, direct-ascent ASAT missile testing, and that the United 
States seeks to establish this as a new international norm for 
responsible behavior in space. In its wake, in December 2022, 155 
nations voiced their widespread concern at the United Nations General 
Assembly about the impact of destructive testing of direct-ascent ASAT 
missiles on the long-term sustainability of the outer space 
environment. One hundred and fifty-five countries at the United Nations 
joined the United States in calling upon all nations to commit not to 
conduct destructive direct-ascent ASAT missile tests.
    The Defense Intelligence Agency's 2022 Challenges to Space Report 
highlighted that Russia tested a space-based ASAT weapon in 2020. 
Russia has continued to research and develop sophisticated orbital 
capabilities that could serve dual-use purposes.
PRC-Russia Cooperation
    PRC and Russian cooperation on defense matters has increased in 
recent years. The PLA participated in Vostok last year--Russia's annual 
strategic forces exercise. Beijing has provided Moscow political and 
economic support throughout the full-scale invasion of Ukraine that 
began last year. In February 2022, the 2 countries announced 16 
agreements including one to increase the interoperability of their 
respective nations' global navigation satellite systems. The new accord 
will align timing standards of China's BeiDou constellation and the 
Russian GLONASS architecture. A fully integrated system will provide 
greater precision, resiliency, and allow for more efficient allocation 
of service.
    Russia possesses deep, decades long, expertise in space operations. 
Recently, however, its progress has been hampered by shortfalls in 
funding, a lack of qualified personnel, and other resource 
inadequacies. Dramatically reduced access to key electronic components 
from long standing international sanctions has negatively impacted 
Russia's aerospace industry.
    Meanwhile, the PRC has committed considerable economic and 
technological resources to growing all aspects of its space program. It 
is operating a space station and is taking on a greater role in lunar 
and deep space exploration. In 2021, Moscow and Beijing agreed to an 
International Lunar Research Station and the PRC may attempt to conduct 
its first crewed landing on the surface of the Moon before 2030.
North Korean and Iranian developments
    North Korea has demonstrated non-kinetic counterspace capabilities 
including GPS and satellite communication (SATCOM) jamming. It likely 
intends to deny space-based navigation and communications during 
conflict. North Korea seeks to develop its space capabilities and has 
placed 2 satellites in orbit. North Korea's space program has provided 
it with data applicable to its long-range and multi-stage ballistic 
missile programs. Additionally, North Korea conducted a record number 
of missile launches last year including intercontinental and submarine-
launched ballistic missiles and has continued these activities in 2023.
    Iran demonstrated a growing commitment to space with the launch of 
the Khayyam sensing satellite. This system, developed cooperatively by 
Iran and Russia, was launched by Russia on behalf of the Iranian 
government. Similar to North Korea, Iran could apply data from its 
space program to further the development of long-range missiles.
           strengthen relationships and attract new partners
    U.S. Space Command plans and executes space operations in 
coordination with other combatant commands, the Services, DOD agencies, 
Allies, and a diverse array of international and commercial Partners to 
achieve national security objectives. Space Situational Awareness (SSA) 
Data Sharing Agreements are one avenue that U.S. Space Command 
currently uses to support the safety of the domain. SSA Data Sharing 
Agreements provide a mechanism for U.S. Space Command to receive and 
share unclassified SSA information with agreement partners to enhance 
the materials maintained in the U.S. Government space awareness 
catalogue, promote greater transparency in space, and to enhance global 
space-flight safety. Agreement partners are able to request support 
from U.S. Space Command in 7 advanced areas. The use of these services 
demonstrates our partners' desires to promote responsible use of the 
space domain and safety of space-flight for all satellite operators in 
the U.S. and around the world. Currently the United States Space 
Command maintains 169 SSA Data Sharing Agreements with 129 commercial 
companies, 7 academic institutions, and 33 governments or international 
organizations.
    Moving from a focus on promoting safe and responsible space 
operations to the imperative of assuring the advantages of space for 
national security, U.S. Space Command's rapidly expanding network of 
international military-to-military partnerships provides tremendous 
strength and resiliency for long-term space security and stability. 
Together, we contribute to deterring aggression and supporting the 
security and stability of space that generates prosperity for all. Our 
Allies and Partners possess complementary capabilities and forces that 
both cover current U.S. gaps and free U.S. assets for alternate 
priorities. They also contribute unique perspectives, regional 
relationships, and information sharing opportunities that improve our 
understanding of the environment and expand our security cooperation 
options. U.S. Space Command's growing number of foreign liaison 
officers and exchange officers--29 in total--are an example of the 
Command's priority to maintain connectivity with our foreign 
counterpart commands and better understand their perspectives and 
priorities.
    Interweaving space capabilities into the warfighting functions and 
domains of our fellow combatant commands contributes an agile, 
credible, and integrated deterrent. In addition to our longstanding 
close partnerships with U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, U.S. European 
Command, U.S. Northern Command, and U.S. Central Command, U.S. Space 
Command, in collaboration with U.S. Africa Command and U.S. Southern 
Command, is developing opportunities to increase space capabilities and 
cooperation in Africa and Latin America. U.S. Space Command's Global 
Sentinel 2022 exercise included 24 international partner nations in one 
location participating in a modeling and simulation event based on 
integrated systems. The exercise focused on space domain awareness to 
support the protection and defense of shared security interests in 
outer space. Global Sentinel 2022 provided a significant strategic 
shaping opportunity to strengthen partnerships while amplifying U.S. 
Space Command and partner nation deterrence and assurance messaging. 
Global Sentinel evolved from its inception in 2014 and is an ongoing 
annual effort, comprising 6 to 8 real-world events and a capstone. 
Global Sentinel remains the only event of its kind that includes 
multinational military partners from all major theaters, furthering 
collaboration focused on SSA and space domain awareness.
    U.S. Space Command provides space planning and operations 
expertise, including integration, coordination, and deconfliction of 
capabilities to all combatant commands through our Joint Integrated 
Space Teams. These teams, combined with joint planning and targeting, 
ensure space capabilities are ready when needed. U.S. Space Command is 
fully integrated with United States European Command's response to 
Russian aggression in Ukraine. We are tightly aligned and synchronized 
with U.S. Indo-Pacific Command to deter, and if necessary, defeat our 
Nation's pacing threat. U.S. Space Command maintains close coordination 
with the Military Services as they develop future capabilities and 
competencies that will add to our decisive advantage.
    U.S. Space Command is implementing the Mission Partner Environment 
(MPE) as our operating framework for communicating with Allies and 
Partners. The MPE enables C2 and information sharing across a range of 
military operations and enables information exchange between all 
participants within a specific partnership or coalition. The MPE 
supports execution of critical joint warfighting functions: C2, 
intelligence, fires, movement and maneuver, protection, information, 
and sustainment. Commanders require common services such as chat, 
secure voice, and email across the enterprise and expeditionary levels 
of operation for human-to-human collaboration. The MPE enables the DOD 
to appropriately share information with mission partners at the speed 
required for operations.
    U.S. Space Command is continually planning to ensure we are 
prepared to respond to all contingencies. The command has developed the 
capacity to synchronize effects across combatant commands to achieve 
integrated operations in campaigning and contingency--a first for the 
command and the DOD. These efforts ultimately provide space enabled 
effects to enable and assure effective land, air, and sea operations.
            integrating commercial, interagency and academia
    Mutually beneficial alliances and partnerships provide an 
asymmetric strategic advantage unmatched by our competition. Our robust 
and growing team of Partners includes commercial, interagency, and 
academic organizations. Together these Partners develop and deliver 
greater military space power that deters aggression and supports space 
domain stability. U.S. Space Command has published a Commercial 
Integration Strategy to enhance the command's overall military space 
power through the collaboration, integration, and partnership with U.S. 
commercial industry. The strategy sets priorities and synchronizes 
commercial integration efforts so that U.S. Space Command can mitigate 
capability gaps, improve space architecture resiliency, and gain and 
maintain a technological and operational advantage over adversaries.
Establishment of a New National Space Traffic Management and 
        Coordination Capability
    U.S. Space Command continues to develop partnerships with the U.S. 
Space Force and the Department of Commerce. As directed by the 
President in Space Policy Directive 3 and the United States Space 
Priorities Framework, civil and commercial space data sharing 
responsibilities will be led by the Department of Commerce. We also 
continue engagements with the broader interagency community and the 
civil and private sectors. These partnerships will endure and 
strengthen over time.
    When the DOD began providing spaceflight safety data to global 
satellite operators in 2010, roughly 110 organizations flew a total of 
890 satellites amidst a background of 21,000 pieces of trackable 
debris. Today, U.S. Space Command supports 680 organizations flying 
7,500 satellites in all orbits. Two United States commercial companies 
have produced more than half of those 7,500 satellites currently on 
orbit. Since U.S. Space Command's inception in 2019, trackable debris 
has increased 60 percent from roughly 25,000 pieces to more than 40,600 
pieces. The transformation of space architectures and economics, and 
the dramatic short-term increase in debris, highlight that space 
congestion will be the norm moving forward. Other countries could also 
grow their space operations, highlighting that a more comprehensive and 
sustainable approach is required for space operations and spaceflight 
safety coordination.
Human Space Flight Support Improvements
    As the DOD lead for human space flight support, U.S. Space Command 
has a close and vibrant relationship with the National Aeronautics and 
Space Administration (NASA). Our most visible effort is the preparation 
for the terrestrial rescue, recovery, and retrieval of astronauts and 
spacecraft. U.S. Space Command and NASA also partner on issues such as 
space domain awareness, in-space and on-orbit applications and 
manufacturing, planetary defense, and hypersonic technology.
    U.S. Space Command is fully committed to NASA's human space flight 
program. This crucial partnership will deepen as NASA's Artemis 
operations expand, the U.S. returns to the moon, and exploration and 
development of cislunar space continues.
National Reconnaissance Office and Commercial Integration Strategy
    U.S. Space Command continues our exceptional working relationship 
with the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and other intelligence 
community (IC) Partners. This relationship improves our ability to gain 
actionable intelligence, establish priorities, and provide global 
support to the rest of the Joint Force. We developed a comprehensive 
operational deconfliction process with the NRO and IC that enables 
seamless integration while delivering combined space effects for 
contingency operations.
    U.S. Space Command has developed a Commercial Integration Strategy 
to advance collaboration, synchronize integration, and expand 
partnerships with U.S. commercial industry. The Combined Joint 
Commercial Integration Office ties together commercial stakeholders 
across the spectrum and drives implementation of this strategy.
    The Command leverages commercial space domain awareness data 
through our Joint Task Force-Space Defense Commercial Operations cell 
(JCO). The JCO provides operationally relevant commercial space domain 
awareness to the National Space Defense Center. We are rapidly moving 
toward around-the-clock JCO operations to optimize information sharing 
between Allies and commercial Mission Partners.
    The Command also leverages commercial ISR, space domain awareness, 
and SATCOM through the Combined Forces Space Component Command's 
Commercial Integration Cell (CIC). The CIC works with industry through 
mutually beneficial collaborative partnerships. As the CIC continues to 
attract commercial Mission Partners, U.S. Space Command can share SSA 
data with these additional commercial providers across multiple 
classification domains.
             building and maintaining competitive advantage
    Our competitors have counterspace capabilities and military 
doctrines that extend their concept of warfighting to space. 
Consequently, we must develop and field capabilities to contribute to 
integrated deterrence in accordance with the National Defense Strategy. 
U.S. Space Command identified 5 priority requirements to accomplish the 
responsibilities assigned by the Unified Command Plan (UCP). These 
include: (1) Integrated Space Fires and Protection, (2) Resilient, 
Timely Space C2, (3) Enhanced Battlespace Awareness, (4) Space Systems 
Cyber Defense, and (5) Resilient Satellite C2 Architecture. 
Additionally, rapid investment in Global Sensor Management, Persistent 
and Resilient ISR, Operational Intelligence, Modernized and Agile EW 
Architecture, and Electromagnetic Battle Management will underpin long 
term success of our protect and defend mission. Relentless pursuit of 
these key integrated requirements will ensure we remain the dominant 
force in the space domain.
Integrated Space Fires and Protection Capabilities
    Every day, civilians and the Joint Force depend on U.S. space 
capabilities. To assure the critical services provided by these 
capabilities, the DOD must have the infrastructure to deter aggression 
and protect these capabilities from attack. Resiliency is fundamental, 
but resiliency alone will not deter attacks or provide protection 
sufficient to assure our space assets. For U.S. Space Command to 
protect and defend U.S. and, as directed, Allied, Partner, and 
commercial space assets such as PNT, communications and missile 
warning/missile tracking, we require Congress' continued investment in 
joint military space capabilities, resilient architectures, and 
protection efforts.
Resilient, Timely Space C2
    Resilient, timely C2 is key to deterring and defeating hostile 
action in space and terrestrially. Rapid and robust communication 
between space activities, space assets, and partner combatant commands 
enables decisive action. The increasingly dynamic space environment 
requires a resilient C2 architecture to synchronize space forces and 
effects for both operations in the contested space environment and as a 
critical enabler to traditional terrestrial maneuver forces. Congress's 
investment in the Combined Space Operations Facility addresses that 
need and will remain critical moving forward.
Enhanced Battlespace Awareness
    U.S. Space Command relies on a near-real time, comprehensive 
understanding of the congested and complex space operational 
environment. Space domain awareness data, C2 automation, and machine 
learning allow us to better understand the threat in U.S. Space 
Command's astrographic area of responsibility (AOR). This critical task 
requires more accurate, robust, resilient, and timely space domain 
awareness and operational intelligence data from all interoperable 
sensors. This will produce highly accurate, rapidly available 
detection, tracking, and characterization of space objects, regardless 
of their origin. Current space domain awareness systems are stove 
piped, disaggregated, and lack the agility necessary for dynamic 
tasking. U.S. Space Command, the Missile Defense Agency, and the U.S. 
Space Force are partnering to enhance sensor integration into a C2 
program. Congress' funding of programs to enhance battlespace awareness 
is crucial to ensuring U.S. Space Command can best protect and defend 
our vital space assets rapidly and dynamically.
Space Systems Cyber Defense
    Digital superiority is key to building and maintaining a 
competitive advantage. The PRC, Russia, and other cyber actors are 
tirelessly working to infiltrate our cleared defense contractor, 
academic, and military networks. These adversaries seek to monitor and 
exfiltrate data, and reduce, degrade, and deny our ability to command, 
control, and communicate with on-orbit space assets and supporting 
ground systems.
    Loss or compromise of U.S., Allied, or Partner space systems 
degrades the Command's ability to conduct operations in and through 
space and support terrestrial operations around the globe. Much of the 
digital infrastructure for these space mission systems requires 
modernization. As our adversaries' cyber capabilities are evolving, we 
need our defensive cyber systems to outpace their growth. We need to be 
agile and find ways to become more resilient. We continue to 
collaborate with U.S. Cyber Command, Combat Support Agencies, and other 
government partners to deploy and integrate defensive cyber systems and 
tactics to maintain safe, secure, and reliable network operations.
    The Command's Joint Cyber Center continues to partner across the 
DOD and with the Department of Homeland Security to prioritize cyber 
defense efforts. Increased funding for cybersecurity systems, 
persistent defensive cyber capabilities, and cyber experts is critical 
to maintaining dominance in the space and cyber domains.
Resilient Satellite C2 Architecture
    U.S. Space Command seeks to improve resiliency in our globally 
dispersed ground terminal architecture and the Satellite Control 
Network (SCN). The current SCN system and follow-on architecture must 
be hardened and modernized to be able to fight through a highly 
contested environment. Mobile assets fielded with emerging technology 
to augment our global ground C2 centers will increase resiliency and 
underpin achieving national security objectives. U.S. Space Command has 
several requirements for the Joint Space Communication Layer (JSCL), 
which is the space transport layer of the DOD Information Network for 
SATCOM. For example, it must be scalable to meet the growing military 
and commercial SATCOM demand and operationally flexible enough to 
respond to adversary threats. Further, the JSCL must be interoperable 
with Allied and Partner systems to synchronize communications in a 
rapidly changing, multi-domain environment.
Force Development
    U.S. Space Command's most important asset is our people. We are 
rapidly onboarding and developing a very talented team of space 
professionals. Our strategic advantage comes through the diversity of 
experience and wisdom of our workforce. U.S. Space Command professional 
development programs boost our military promotion rates and our 
civilian employees' advancement potential. As our military members 
rotate out of the command and return to their parent service units, 
they bring invaluable space expertise back to the broader Joint and 
Combined Force. We visit colleges and universities to recruit recent 
graduates for civilian internships and job opportunities. We continue 
to advocate for hiring efficiencies that allow us to rapidly hire and 
onboard civilian employees. We recently established a command Academic 
Engagement Enterprise to partner with universities across the country 
to enhance workforce professionalization and improve U.S. Space 
Command's engagement in that critical space. We have full-time civilian 
advisors dedicated to building workforce resiliency and preventing 
discrimination, sexual assault, and harassment in the workplace to 
ensure our workforce remains empowered to reach its full potential.
    As of 1 January 2023, we have 62 percent of our authorized military 
and government civilian end strength in place. If we include our 
contractor workforce, that number rises to 82 percent, a significant 
achievement 3 years into the command's 5-year programmed manpower 
growth plan.
Resilient Space Architecture and Rapid Reconstitution
    Over the last 5 years, the threats to our space enterprise systems 
have increased. We must modernize our space enterprise to ensure 
resiliency and agility and to preserve freedom of action despite these 
advancing threats. The ability to rapidly reconstitute requires us to 
prioritize seamless integration between old and new space capabilities 
(such as networks, space assets, links, and ground systems). This is 
essential to optimizing our data collection, processing, exploitation, 
and dissemination. U.S. Space Command is conducting a series of review 
efforts to examine the resiliency of the space enterprise. We are 
identifying strengths and weaknesses of our current architecture, 
challenges to interoperability, and current policy limitations 
inhibiting shared space domain awareness. We are examining end-user 
interfaces, terrestrial systems, and communications links to orbital 
assets. In collaboration with the U.S. Space Force, our Allies, and 
Partners, U.S. Space Command is developing the requirements for a 
modern, integrated space architecture capable of operating in an 
increasingly contested space environment.
Dynamic Space Operations
    Over the last 5 years, explicit and implicit threats to our on-
orbit assets have increased. To preserve freedom of action, we must 
relentlessly pursue a new concept of employment--Dynamic Space 
Operations (DSO). Maneuvers by our current space systems are 
constrained by the fixed quantity of consumable resources on-board. 
This forces space warfighters to balance use of on-board resources to 
mitigate or counter current threats against the risk of insufficient 
resources to respond to future challenges.
    Dynamic Space Operations includes the ability to restore 
consumables of on-orbit platforms or rapidly replace the platforms 
themselves. DSO will enable space operators to quickly respond to 
adversary operations, support readiness campaigns, and engage in self-
defense, with less concern for future use implications. It will enable 
expanded multi-mission operations with less risk of depleting those 
limited consumables and mission capabilities. DSO will dramatically 
increase our ability to support geographic combatant commanders' 
operational requirements across the entire spectrum of competition, 
crisis, and conflict. Programs are underway within the DOD, the 
national laboratories, and across industry to address the technological 
challenges associated with DSO. U.S. Space Command is actively engaged 
with developmental efforts and working groups like the In-space 
Servicing Assembly and Manufacturing Interagency Working Group. Our 
near-term DSO objective is to conduct an on-orbit demonstration to 
restore a satellite's maneuver capability by 2026. Our longer-term 
objective is to develop the necessary mission requirements and 
technical standards to ensure most capabilities delivered beyond 2030 
will not be limited by consumables. We ask for Congress' support for 
these vital efforts as we develop and secure these crucial 
capabilities. Freedom to maneuver in space without concern for limiting 
future maneuverability will be an important capability for systems that 
are survivable against threats.
Maintenance and Hardening of Critical Infrastructure
    U.S. Space Command's assigned AOR begins at an altitude of 100km--
roughly 62 miles--above the surface of the Earth and extends 
indefinitely. Our operating domain extends around the globe and 
encompasses all 3 segments of our space systems: on-orbit assets, 
ground stations, and the cyber links connecting them. Updates to the 
ground segment are required to ensure our satellites can provide 
mission-critical information to the Joint Force and national 
decisionmakers. For example, our missile warning mission relies heavily 
on ground-based radar systems that require reliable power and cooling 
systems. Many of the facilities and infrastructure supporting U.S. 
Space Command exceed 60 years of service. It is increasingly difficult 
to maintain the necessary infrastructure for our assets to guarantee 
the resiliency, survivability, and endurability required for our 
critical space missions. Stop-gap measures are increasingly ineffective 
due to the lack of replacement parts and the inordinate time required 
to make repairs. We must modernize our aging infrastructure to keep 
pace with our competitors. I am grateful for Congress' continued 
support to ensure these facilities adequately support U.S. Space 
Command's no-fail missions.
    Commercial space systems provide essential capabilities to our 
national security and civilian life. U.S. Space Command works with 
interagency and commercial space system stakeholders through the 
Critical Infrastructure Partnership Advisory Council to improve the 
security, resilience, and cybersecurity of commercial space systems.
    At our provisional headquarters in Colorado Springs, the DOD has 
invested in existing on-installation facilities and off-installation 
federally leased buildings to meet U.S. Space Command requirements. Our 
provisional facilities on Peterson Space Force Bases are 30 years old. 
We accomplished major building system upgrades and repairs to meet 
mission requirements (such as power, communication/technology, and 
cooling). U.S. Space Command's provisional headquarters in Colorado 
Springs supports 1,230 personnel with the required communication, 
technology, and capabilities and will support full operational 
capability.
Exercises
    U.S. Space Command executes the Presidentially assigned UCP 
responsibility for Joint Space Operations Training. As such, the 
Command is integrating joint and combined space scenarios and training 
across the Joint Force. We will conduct 2 mission centric exercises in 
fiscal year 2023 as building blocks to a full-scale Tier 1 exercise in 
fiscal year 2024 to emphasize the key transitions from competition 
through crisis and into conflict. This will highlight both the 
supported and supporting relationships between U.S. Space Command and 
the other combatant commands that will enable the Joint Force to 
overcome anti-access, area denial strategies.
Joint Warfighting Requirements
    To maintain momentum, U.S. Space Command is developing joint 
warfighting requirements. We will continue to rely on the Services to 
contribute solutions that mitigate the capability gaps identified in 
these requirements.
Joint Space C2
    The Joint Space C2 requirement established a set of threat-based 
requirements defining what the Command requires to comprehensively C2 
forces across all mission areas. This includes deploying and connecting 
worldwide sensors and systems to national decisionmakers and all 
combatant commanders in near real time.
Space Effects to the Warfighter
    To ensure space and space-enabled capabilities are available during 
conflict, U.S. Space Command is defining how to protect and defend 
space capabilities to guarantee space effects to the rest of the Joint 
Force. The Department will respond to hostile acts in space at the 
time, place, and domain of our choosing.
EW/Offensive Cyberspace Operation
    U.S. Space Command is defining the required capabilities to 
integrate EW and offensive cyberspace operations. Close coordination 
with U.S. Cyber Command will enable joint fires to protect the space 
and cyberspace scheme of maneuver and provide the warfighting effects 
necessary to protect the rest of the Joint Force from adversary hostile 
uses of space.
Navigation Warfare (NAVWAR)/PNT
    This NAVWAR/PNT requirement establishes the requirements that will 
inform future capability development by the services. This requirement 
is the initial step to informing the way the Joint Force, Allies, and 
Partners will keep pace with an advancing adversary threat. It will 
support the modern warfighter with scalable NAVWAR capabilities, 
integrate with our partners, and support a redundant and resilient 
NAVWAR/PNT architecture.
                               conclusion
    U.S. Space Command is rapidly approaching full operational 
capability. I am exceptionally proud of the progress the Command has 
made over the last 3-\1/2\ years. There is no combatant command, 
warfighting domain, nor element of national power that is not 
strengthened by the space capabilities and effects that U.S. Space 
Command provides or protects. I am grateful to Congress for your 
support that has enabled our success. I ask for your continued support 
for the necessary resourcing to ensure we maintain our competitive 
advantage in the increasingly contested space domain.
    We will continue to grow our critical network of Allies and 
Partners to integrate joint military space power into all-domain global 
operations to deter aggression, defend national interests, and when 
necessary, defeat threats. On behalf of the most critical asset in our 
command, the soldiers, marines, sailors, airmen, guardians, civilians, 
and families of U.S. Space Command, thank you for your support to our 
mission.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Dickinson. 
General Cotton, we are facing a first in the history-of-the-
world situation of a trilateral nuclear competition at a 
serious level.
    As you have indicated, in addition to Russia, which has 
since the late 1940's maintained a robust nuclear arsenal, 
China is expanding its nuclear capability with additional 
missile fields, the new Jin-class submarine, and is upgrading 
its H-6 bomber to carry cruise missiles.
    How is STRATCOM adapting to this new trilateral nuclear 
competition?
    General Cotton. Chairman, thank you for the question. It is 
fundamentally based around our--what we see is a sound 
strategic model; and that is the triad. The ability for the 
triad and the systems that we have to be able to cover and 
understand how to cover and still offer options, flexible 
deterrent options, to the President is key.
    One, the triad is fundamental and foundational for that to 
happen. Two, I believe that we are going to have to have a 
conversation in regards to strategy and force posture. I am 
absolutely in a good place today with our systems and where we 
stand, and foundational to that is the modernization of our 
current system.
    But to your point, Chairman, 2010 and the basis of which we 
did our modernization efforts was on a 2010 threat. We are 
going to have to have that conversation to ensure that the 
modernization systems, the proportions of the triad, and other 
effects that can bring strategic deterrence to bear is right 
moving forward post-2030.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General Cotton. There is another 
issue that I would like to touch on with both you and General 
Dickinson, is that as the lead combatant command for spectrum 
operations, General Cotton, your standing of a Joint 
Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations Center (JEC).
    There are several questions here. Given the amount of 
electronic attacks we are seeing in Ukraine as well as 
operations in the Indo-Pacific, when do you expect the center 
to become operational? Also, your comments on the proposed sale 
of the S-Band spectrum that is now being discussed.
    General Cotton. Sir, thanks for that question, Chairman. 
So, as you know, the overall objective of the JEC is to raise 
overall readiness of the Joint Forces to prevail in that 
mission space.
    We are actually doing really good work and we are in the 
final steps: working our way through the Deputy Secretary of 
Defense for her to sign out the memorandum and actions on the 
tasks that we have to move forward. I look forward to seeing 
that pretty soon.
    In regards to STRATCOM and how do we rely on spectrum, I 
will say it to you this way: EMS [electromagnetic spectrum] 
superiority for the employment of our forces to maintain 
situational awareness, to assure communication through all 
domains, and assure PNT, position, navigation, and timing, is 
critically important for not only myself as a combatant 
command, but for all combatant commanders.
    Chairman Reed. General Dickinson, again, your perspective 
on the value of the S-band to the military, and also the 
knowledge that you and your colleagues in uniform have with 
respect to what parts can be shared, or what cannot be shared.
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Chairman, for that question. 
So, I would have to categorize it as foundational. That 
spectrum piece that you are discussing, you mentioned, is 
foundational to what U.S. Space Command does, as we have the 
responsibility of providing space and able capabilities to the 
Joint Force.
    What I mean by that, PNT communications, missile warning, 
all of those types of capabilities that I am responsible for 
providing are dependent upon the use of the spectrum. As I look 
at it, I think it is foundational to it and in everything we 
do.
    Chairman Reed. There would be a certain degree of risk 
aversion that you would bring to disposing with that S-band at 
this point.
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Chairman Reed. That is fair, General?
    General Cotton. That is fair, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Senator Wicker, please.
    General Cotton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, before I 
begin my questions, I want to thank Senators Fischer and King, 
and recognize their bipartisan and significant work on the 
Strategic Forces Subcommittee. They are going to be very busy 
and we are going to look to them in the future, as we already 
have, for leadership. General Cotton, we have a nuclear 
modernization plan, is that correct?
    General Cotton. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. When was it written? When was it developed?
    General Cotton. Probably in 2010 timeframe is when the 
modernization effort----
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Now, when it was developed, this 
trilateral threat that the chairman just talked about was not 
so significant, was it?
    General Cotton. China was seen as a nascent threat.
    Senator Wicker. So, things are different now from the time 
the plan was developed?
    General Cotton. That is correct.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Is it a fact that since 2010, every 
Department of Defense and Department of Energy nuclear program 
has been delayed or reduced in scope?
    General Cotton. I don't know if I can go back to the 
timeframe of 2010, sir----
    Senator Wicker. But for the most part, that is a correct 
statement.
    General Cotton. It is----
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, how are we going to meet the 
rapidly growing threats from China and Russia with a force that 
smaller and delivers later than we planned some 13 years ago?
    General Cotton. Senator, I think the way I would couch that 
is: the legacy system that we currently have is a credible 
system today. The fact that for--since 2016, we have been 
modernizing that legacy system and are underway with that 
legacy system. I think what I would tell you is I just want to 
ensure that the modernization programs that we have today, we 
can't--we have lost all margin, and we must ensure that those 
programs are fully funded and executed so I can have 
replacement and updated systems to the legacy system today. It 
is still hard.
    Senator Wicker. Has it made sense then that these programs, 
for the most part, have all been delayed or reduced in scope?
    General Cotton. Sir, that is a policy question from that 
position. From my perspective----
    Senator Wicker. But we rely on you for expertise and for 
advice----
    General Cotton. We always forward, Ranking Member, we 
always forward our best military advice, as well as our 
requirements on what we think and can meet the requirements of 
executing the objectives that are laid upon us by the 
President.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Your predecessor testified last year 
and agreed with nearly every other senior U.S. military officer 
that we need to provide Presidents with more nuclear options 
than we have today. Do you agree with that sentiment?
    General Cotton. I do agree with that.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Let me ask you then about my, the way 
I ended my testimony, where I said I would like for you to 
share your feeling as to whether we should have a sense of 
urgency and whether we should communicate that to the 
Commander-in-Chief and also to the American public.
    General Cotton. That is a wholehearted ``yes.'' We need to 
be able to articulate the sense of urgency to ensure that we 
can modernize the systems that we currently have funded and 
also look at future posture on what other things throughout the 
inventory. I would say for affects conventional and nuclear to 
make sure that I can meet the objectives that are given to me 
for strategic deterrence to the President.
    Senator Wicker. We should make it clear to the taxpayers 
and the American citizens that we need to up our game in this 
regard?
    General Cotton. Continuing beating of the drum so folks 
understand that our legacy systems need to be modernized. 
Absolutely, sir.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. General Cotton, General 
Dickinson, thank you both for being here this morning and for 
your service. General Dickinson, I liked your quote, ``never a 
day without space''. As you think about the challenges that 
Space Command is facing, what is your biggest concern with 
respect to readiness?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. Let me just kind of 
paint a picture of where the Command is today. Within 2 years, 
we achieved initial operational capability--on a very solid 
path to achieve full operational capability very soon.
    Resources, the Department has done a great job giving me 
the resources that I do need. For example, the infrastructure 
today, as well as the people, the personnel. The most important 
part of the Command is our people.
    That is our asymmetric advantage, if you will, in the space 
domain as well, all things space. When I look at what we have 
done over the last three and a half years in terms of 
identifying requirements to the Department, it has gone very 
well. We have deliberately and thoughtfully provided 
requirements to the Department, and the Department is, in fact, 
giving us those resources.
    As I said earlier the Department kind of works on 5-year 
terms, if you will, with budgets and POMs [Program Objective 
Memoranda] and those kinds of things. Combatant Commander, I 
look to what is happening today, and I am required to do that 
by the Secretary. When I look at that, to answer your question, 
I look very hard at space domain awareness. How are we doing 
that today?
    We are taking steps to make sure that we are leveraging 
sensors around the world, that our U.S., and allies, and 
partners that traditionally haven't been used for space domain 
awareness but do have capabilities. We look at those particular 
assets and understand how we can pull them in and integrate 
them into a comprehensive architecture.
    Then we also look to how do we develop the requirements to 
improve upon those in future years. That is one way we were 
doing it, trying to solve that situational awareness or improve 
the situational awareness issue I have in the space domain.
    The second part of that is leveraging commercial companies, 
commercial companies that want to participate in that with the 
capabilities that they build themselves and provide that data 
to us. Through integration of nontraditional sensors, as well 
as commercial sensors, we are getting better at space domain 
awareness. But as the congestion in space continues to grow, we 
will need better capabilities.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, you mentioned the expertise of the 
personnel who work at Space Force, and I understand that you 
have been successful in hiring a number of civilians to address 
the milestones that you have set.
    That is why I continue to be concerned about the proposed 
relocation of Space Force to the Redstone Arsenal. When the 
Missile Defense Agency was relocated to Alabama and they lost 
80 percent of their workforce who didn't want to leave and make 
that move. What would be the impact if you lost a significant 
portion of the workforce in a move of Space Force?
    General Dickinson. Well, Senator, so today, as I mentioned, 
the Command itself right now is about 62 percent, if I count 
military, as well as a Department of the Air Force civilians.
    I have got a contractor base, too, in addition to that, 
that pulls us up a little bit over 80 percent in the total for 
the Command. There is really no way to know how many of those 
civilians would move to Huntsville, for example, until that 
decision is made. Lots of those folks are great civilian 
workforce.
    They have made life choices and that is why they live, for 
example, in Colorado Springs. The military, you know, we are 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians. If told to 
move, we'll move. But there is really no way of knowing what 
percentage would actually move.
    Senator Shaheen. But the report that took a look at the 
spacing decisionmakes some assumptions about what would happen 
if there were a move and what the impact of that would be. Is 
that correct?
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Senator Shaheen. Is there a reason why that report is not 
available to the public?
    General Dickinson. I believe the Department of the Air 
Force, the Secretary of the Air Force is doing some additional 
analysis before he makes his final decision.
    But to your point, ma'am, I would just offer that whether 
it is Colorado Springs or Huntsville, I think, you know, both 
those locations have the talent pool, if you will, of 
professionals, space professionals that could support the 
mission of the U.S. Space Command.
    So, again, I wouldn't know the percentage, but I do know 
that the work base, workforce that is available in Huntsville 
is very good as well.
    Senator Shaheen. But am I correct that the workforce in 
Huntsville has not had the same expertise on operating 
satellites that the workforce in Colorado has had?
    General Dickinson. Well, so the workforce that I have, 
ma'am, in the headquarters itself, the Combatant Command 
(COCOM) headquarters, we don't necessarily do that level of 
technical flying the satellites, if you will. That is resident 
within subordinate units within U.S. Space Command, and those 
units are not moving.
    Senator Shaheen. So, they will stay in Colorado regardless.
    General Dickinson. I am sorry?
    Senator Shaheen. They will stay in Colorado regardless of 
what happens with everybody else.
    General Dickinson. So, the only part of that basing 
decision that is under review right now for the decision to 
relocate is the headquarters, my headquarters.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Cotton 
and General Dickinson, before I begin my questions, I want to 
strongly encourage both of you to make greater use of the 
unfunded priorities list.
    That process helps you to convey your needs to Congress. 
The Department's budget request is the product of a 2-year long 
process. Many of the assumptions baked into fiscal year 2024 
budget were made in 2021. The geopolitical environment has 
significantly changed over the last 2 years.
    This Committee views unfunded priority list as a valuable 
tool that allows us to make more responsible resourcing 
decisions based on the current needs that we have and the 
operating environments.
    So please use that tool. General Cotton, in your recent 
letter to the Committee, you noted that you have a capability 
gap that needs to be filled by a low-yield, non-ballistic 
capability that can respond without generation. Would a nuclear 
sea-launched cruise missile fill that gap?
    General Cotton. Thank you for the question, Senator 
Fischer. To address the adversaries' perceived advantage on 
limited nuclear use, when I was here amongst the Committee and 
was tasked with the question and I said I owed you a response 
on being able to make that assessment on where we stood. I did 
a deep dive as soon as I took command.
    During that deep dive and review of our capabilities, I, in 
fact, am in agreement that there is a strategic gap or 
challenge when it comes to that regime. So, I fully support the 
fact that--and the support that we have with this Committee in 
pursuing the opportunities to look at low-yield, non-ballistic, 
non-generating effects moving forward. Absolutely concur with 
that.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, General, and thank you for 
looking in that and getting back to us. I appreciate that. 
Sometimes when you take a new command, I know you have a lot 
put on your shoulders in making sure that you have a full 
understanding of everything that you are in charge of, and I 
appreciate you taking the time to get that to us.
    Last year, the Administration sought to retire the B-83 
nuclear gravity bomb despite having no replacement program in 
place to address hard and deeply buried targets such as 
underground facilities in China and North Korea.
    What is your best military advice on whether the United 
States needs to maintain a capability to hold those hard and 
deeply buried targets at risk?
    General Cotton. Thanks for the question, Senator. I will 
answer that in two parts. Right now, the B-83 is still part of 
my arsenal, with the NDAA language that limits the reduction of 
that, so I still have that capacity and capability, pending the 
results of the hard and deeply buried study that the Department 
is currently doing, of which we are a part and are giving our 
inputs to that.
    That being said, we are going to have to figure out how we 
are going to continue to have capability that gets after HDBTs 
[hard and deeply burried targets] and what effects can actually 
do that. Whether conventional or nuclear, we are going to have 
to have a strategy to figure out how to do that. I look forward 
to seeing what the study brings us from the Department to make 
sure that we can close that.
    Senator Fischer. When do you anticipate that study to be 
completed?
    General Cotton. Ma'am, I was told that we should see that 
in the spring.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Could you please keep us 
updated on that?
    General Cotton. I absolutely will.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, sir. I appreciate the 
conversation that we had earlier this week on the importance of 
moving forward quickly with NC3 modernization and building out 
a road map with clear, achievable, near and long-term goals. 
Can you tell this Committee more about NC3, the road map that 
STRATCOM is developing?
    General Cotton. Senator, I absolutely look forward to 
having that conversation, not only in open but in closed 
session as well.
    The conversation that we had was one of the things that--
that was the second thing that I did upon taking command was 
get with the team to understand how we take a conceptual ideas 
and what might be seen as concepts with all the dollars and 
support that we are getting from the Congress and turn those 
into what you had alluded to, a road map that I can, you can, 
and my bosses in the Pentagon can actually see in phases of 
what we are doing with an NC3 modernization.
    So, what we are doing is we are translating what was once 
seen as a conceptual piece and talking through the concept. Now 
we are having 0 to 5, 5 to 10, 10 to 15 year roadmaps where I 
can describe to you within those phases of time what is 
actually being done with the taxpayers' money moving forward to 
modernize the NC3 modernization program.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. I think it is extremely 
important to be able to have roadmaps, checklists to stay on 
time so that we can be prepared for the future. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer, and let me also 
join Senator--in commending you and Senator King for your 
leadership for the Strategic Forces Subcommittee. With that, 
let me recognize Senator King.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank 
you for the recognition. General Cotton, just a brief note.
    Sentinel, the replacement of the ICBM system essentially 
from the--literally from the ground up is one of the most 
important and also complicated and major development projects 
in the history of this country in terms of budget and schedule 
and the necessity of getting this done.
    I want you to know that we are watching you because I want 
the contractors to know that you are watching them. I hope this 
is a high priority in terms of the management and 
implementation of that program, which is going to be a massive 
undertaking.
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you, and you are absolutely 
right. I am watching the contractors and I am watching the Air 
Force to ensure that we close that gap as well.
    Senator King. Thank you. I want to talk about deterrence, 
which is really the basis of our entire strategy to defend this 
country, and we talked about, you talked with Senator Fischer 
about communications, NC3.
    It seems to me that NC3--I believe NC3 should be part of 
the triad. It should be the quad, because it is really as 
important. If our communication system isn't credible then our 
deterrent isn't credible, which is what could lead to a 
precipitous strike from one of our adversaries.
    I hope that you agree with me. I don't want to make you go 
through all you went through with Senator Fischer. But NC3 
security and absolutely zero-defect reliability is critical to 
the deterrent posture of this country.
    General Cotton. Sir, it is the foundation of everything we 
do when we talk the triad. I often use your slogan of saying 
that it is a quad, if you will, NC3. One of the things that we 
are also doing is General Nakasone is interwoven in everything 
that we are doing in his team in Cyber Command.
    I mean he is interwoven in everything we are doing with 
current NC3, the legacy systems, as well as when we are 
building out the next generation of NC3. So, security is 
fundamentally----
    Senator King. We put a lot of our time, effort, and focus 
on cyber over the last few years. I am a little worried that 
electronic warfare is sort of over here and cyber is over here. 
Electronic warfare, the ability of our communication systems, 
of our satellites to--we will talk about this General, but that 
is a part of--maintaining that as part of our deterrence 
strategy. It has to be.
    General Cotton. It absolutely is, sir. As you know, I am 
the lead command in ensuring that we get after the EMS 
[electromagnetic spectrum] problem and what we saw as an 
atrophy over the past couple of decades--not with the NC3 
systems within the Department.
    Senator King. No, but the whole system, electronic--if 
there is a conflict, electronic warfare is going to be the 
first 2 hours or 2 days before anything else happens. Well, let 
me move from that to General Dickinson.
    Are we developing alternatives to space-based resources? 
For example, the simplest one to think of as GPS [global 
positioning system]. We have got to be able to have ships and 
planes and troops, for that matter, and know where they are 
absent GPS, because I believe GPS will be one of the first 
targets in a conflict. Yes, I know you are you are not Navy, 
but I want ships to be able to do celestial navigation.
    General Dickinson. Thanks, Senator. To answer your 
question--I do believe we will be degraded at some point in the 
GPS world, position, navigation, and timing. With that, I know 
there are efforts underway, even in my previous command before 
you as Space Command, looking to alternative PNT, alternative 
position, navigation, and timing, and how we can develop those 
types of capabilities. So that is the kind of the technical 
side of it. There are programs that are working on that right 
now.
    Senator King. That is a high priority. That--you know, we 
could have a $100 million aircraft that gets lost because it 
can't navigate. We have got to have a high priority on having 
alternatives to GPS, it seems to me.
    General Dickinson. Yes, I agree, and the Departments are 
working on that right now. But what I would also offer to you, 
Senator, is efforts within the Department and each of the 
services to kind of go back to how we used to do things. When I 
was a Second Lieutenant many, many years ago, I had a lensatic 
compass and a map in my hand. Many people did in this room, I 
am sure.
    We can't lose that skill. We have to continue to train that 
skill. If you are on a Navy ship, I might get this wrong, you 
have a sextant that you can use to utilize stars to do your 
navigation. But I think we all have to prepare for that, and I 
know, like, for example, in the Army, if you go out to one of 
the CTCs [combat training center] or training centers, they are 
actually training in that kind of a degraded environment 
because we know that we might see that. Of course, we have seen 
that in Ukraine as well.
    Senator King. Preparing and training are the key words. 
Thank you very much, General. Thank you both for your service. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Rounds, 
please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, let me 
begin by just thanking you and your teams for standing on the 
front line, and in some cases having to make some very 
difficult decisions. I appreciate the work that both of you do.
    As you know, there is an effort and a significant 
discussion going on with regard to spectrum and spectrum 
sharing. It is important as a country because there are lots of 
people that want 5G. It is critical to our country and to 
expansion.
    But at the same time, 5G means that there are parts of the 
electromagnetic spectrum which have to be dedicated toward 
that. At the same time, spectrum is limited, and part of what 
that limited spectrum is, is being used by the Department of 
Defense.
    Over the years, there has been more and more of a move by 
folks who want to be able to provide more services to the 
general public to take parts of the spectrum and that which is 
used by the Department of Defense.
    I am concerned about this, and as you know, right now, 
there is a discussion about that part of the spectrum that is 
between 3.1 and 3.45 gigahertz. There is a desire because this 
is a very desirable part of the spectrum.
    Now, on the political side of things, and we don't expect 
you to get into the politics of it, there is a real push to try 
to move some of that away from the Department of Defense on a 
shared basis. At the same time, there is a reason why the 
Department of Defense uses this part of the spectrum in that it 
has some very, very special qualities.
    I am going to get into the part of this in which we need 
your professional military advice. I am making it that way 
because there are folks that clearly understand the value of 
5G, who would prefer to have this moved in an expeditious 
fashion out and away from DOD uses or shared uses, and into the 
private sector.
    I understand their desire to do so, but I believe that the 
national defense of this country is critical and must be 
maintained. So, what I am going to ask in terms of your 
professional military opinion, is to work our way through this 
in a discussion with me about the critical needs of this 
country for parts of the spectrum that could be at risk if we 
make the wrong political decision.
    I am going to begin, General Cotton, within 3.1 to 3.45 and 
in very close proximity to that, is it true that we have 
significant radars that we have to maintain?
    General Cotton. That is a correct statement.
    Senator Rounds. Is it true that those radars that we are 
dependent on protect our country, Alaska, Hawaii and the 
mainland from the possibility of attack by aggressors, with 
regard to intercontinental ballistic missiles, short range 
missiles, drones, all sorts, or I would say almost the vast 
majority of those types of weapons systems, including aircraft, 
that may very well be coming at us or directed at our shores.
    General Cotton. Senator, that is a true statement.
    Senator Rounds. If you were to lose part of this spectrum, 
would it be true, or if they were to look at using part of this 
spectrum, would it be true that some of those radars that we 
rely on could be at risk?
    General Cotton. They could be at risk, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Dickinson, space is the 
name of the game for you, and you not only have satellites and 
so forth, you are responsible also for early warning in some 
cases as well. Is that not true?
    General Dickinson. That is true. I have UCP responsibility 
as the global sensor manager.
    Senator Rounds. In those sensors, are there critical 
aspects that include very sensitive parts of the spectrum that 
are in or near this particular part of the spectrum?
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Senator Rounds. What would happen if you were to lose 
access to those or to be limited to those, in terms of your 
ability to provide adequate warning should an attack occur?
    General Dickinson. It would be impacted, possibly degraded.
    Senator Rounds. If you were required to move away from the 
assets that you currently have in that part of the spectrum, 
can you give us any kind of an estimate as to the costs 
involved?
    General Dickinson. Senator, I can't give you an accurate 
cost estimate. I would say it would be very expensive.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Cotton, are you familiar 
with the Aegis?
    General Cotton. I am, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Is it clear that the Aegis system has 
significant parts of its radar systems within this very 
sensitive part of the spectrum?
    General Cotton. It does, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Do you have any idea as to what the cost 
would be to try to move or to try to allocate spectrum away, or 
in areas other than this, if it is even available for the Aegis 
system that protects our coasts?
    General Cotton. I don't have a cost, but I know it is 
extremely expensive.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Do you believe that it is very 
important--I am going to ask this of both of you, and then, Mr. 
Chairman, my time, I realize, is up, but I would like to have 
this question.
    Do you believe it is important that uniformed officers of 
the Department of Defense have a say or at least have an 
opportunity to express to those who make these decisions your 
professional military opinion about how serious the loss of 
these particular parts of the spectrum could be if the decision 
is being made to share or to release that part of the spectrum?
    General Cotton. I would at least like to have my best 
military advice heard.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Dickinson.
    General Dickinson. As a combatant commander, I would ask--I 
would say the same thing. I would ask that my best military 
advice would be considered.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Cotton, I am just going 
to finish with this. Have you been able to offer your best 
professional military advice to anyone on the release of the 
spectrum to date?
    General Cotton. Sir, most of those discussions happened 
prior to December, so I don't know what the disposition was 
done, but I haven't had that discussion since the command.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you very much. Look, I really 
appreciate this.
    This is a difficult situation because there really is going 
to come a point at which your professional military advice has 
got to be shared with those individuals that are looking at 
making this decision and should not be made.
    I am just going to finish with this. I believe that it 
should not be made until after the study, which is being 
completed by the Department of Defense and the NTIA [National 
Telecommunications and Information Administration] is 
completed. Would you agree with me that nothing should be done 
with this until after that study is completed?
    General Cotton. I agree, and we are part of that study.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General, would you agree with 
that?
    General Dickinson. I would agree, and we are part of that 
study.
    Senator Rounds. Do you believe that there should absolutely 
be an appeals process that we have currently got in law, should 
that be continued on in its current form? General Cotton?
    General Cotton. Yes.
    Senator Rounds. General Dickinson?
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for 
your patience.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Just to make sure 
we are clear, the S-band is the band that Senator Rounds and I 
were both talking about. Thank you. Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. General Cotton, the All-domain Anomaly 
Resolution Office (AARO) was created to synchronize the 
Department of Defense efforts to study and assess unidentified 
aerial phenomenon. How is STRATCOM liaising with AARO to help 
the office do its job?
    General Cotton. So, ma'am, formally UAP [unidentified 
anomalous phenomenon], so we are part of that along with other 
combatant commands. So, I have a team, as well as myself and in 
the senior leadership positions, that liaison with that 
organization as well as the other COCOM responsible for that 
responsibility.
    Senator Gillibrand. Great, and do you foresee that AARO 
needs additional resources or additional sensors or additional 
detection to be able to do their job more thoroughly?
    General Cotton. I would probably have to defer that to my 
partner in NORTHCOM [United States Northern Command] to be able 
to answer that question. So, I don't--with what I know, I don't 
have a good answer for you in that regard, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. I will followup for the record on that. 
While Canada has promised to invest $38 billion over the next 
20 years in NORAD updates, our radars in the North Warning 
System are pretty old and are in known locations. Can you 
update us, in this setting on how you are modernizing our 
defenses in Alaska and north of our border?
    General Cotton. So, if you are talking NORAD [North 
American Aerospace Defense Command], NORTHCOM systems, I would 
have to defer to NORAD NORTHCOM Commander.
    Senator Gillibrand. Then how is STRATCOM adjusting our 
missile defense capabilities to respond to the threats you 
mentioned in your opening statement of hypersonic glide 
vehicles and hypersonic cruise missiles, to the extent you can 
answer that in this setting?
    General Cotton. I would prefer if we could, ma'am, in a 
closed setting to be able to address those.
    Senator Gillibrand. That is fine. General Dickinson, the 
Space Force is working on a commercial augmentation space 
reserve, which would give us a civil reserve space fleet if we 
needed one during a conflict or crisis. How is SPACECOM 
supporting Space Force's efforts to build this reserve?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. So that is a great 
initiative. I think it is--we need that, especially as I 
described earlier, our leveraging commercial industry to 
augment, provide additional capabilities to us.
    The way we are working with them is, as the combatant 
command warfighter, we are providing our perspective in terms 
of requirements for those types of relationships.
    In other words, we will have the operational piece in terms 
of what those contractors could or could not face in the space 
domain. We participate in that way.
    Senator Gillibrand. As we plan for peer-on-peer or near-
peer conflicts, we have been able to ensure that our forces 
know how to use our Nation's capabilities, and that they have 
the opportunity to train with those capabilities.
    But most of our space based systems are classified as 
special access programs. At current classification levels, are 
lower-level commanders able to understand the full scope of 
capabilities available to the force and able to conduct 
military planning with an understanding of space based 
capabilities and limitations?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. Over classification 
is a challenge within the Department right now, but one that we 
are aggressively working and looking at refining, to make sure 
that we can start bringing systems and capabilities to a lower 
classification level so that we can optimize their employment 
as well as training of the operators and the forces that they 
support.
    In other words, the classifications, we look across those 
and are revisiting those documents, those capabilities to see 
whether or not we can pull them down to a lower classification 
level. This also allows us to do more integration, better 
integration with our allies and partners.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand. 
Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, 
gentlemen, very much for being here today. General Cotton, 
thank you for speaking with me last month regarding your 
Commander's assessment, including on the SLCM-.
    I do appreciate the letter that you responded with to the 
Chairman and Ranking Member, affirming that SLCM-N offers 
additional options and supports and integrated deterrence 
approach. I brought a copy of the letter today. Really 
appreciate you responding to my colleagues and I. Mr. Chairman, 
I request that the General's letter be entered into the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Ernst. The President's budget request should 
reflect this assessment. We feel that that is very, very 
important, and again, thank you very much for doing your 
commander's assessment.
    General Cotton, the 2022 China Military Power Report 
estimates that China will field 1,500 nuclear weapons by 2035 
and that rivals U.S. deployments under New START. I know we 
have been hammering down on this.
    This is such an important topic for all of us. Do you agree 
that we must reassess our strategic deterrence requirements 
given China's nuclear breakout?
    General Cotton. Senator Ernst, thanks for the question. 
Absolutely, I think we need to reassess our strategy or at 
least take a look at our strategy, our current strategy, and 
have a force posture conversation.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, and after New START, the U.S. and 
Russia, and of course China too, might be without strategic 
arms constraints. Would you agree that the U.S. should prepare 
to upload its non-deployed nuclear weapons to shore up 
deterrence?
    General Cotton. Senator, I always have flexible deterrence 
options.
    Senator Ernst. Very good. I hope everybody hears that loud 
and clear. How quickly can we upload each leg of the triad?
    General Cotton. Ma'am, I rather have that conversation in 
the closed setting.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you. We look forward to that 
classified answer, and General Cotton, and I am just going to 
go into generals here, kind of general answers, because you are 
Generals. We might need to consider additional measures to 
ensure the credibility of our deterrent. So, in general, would 
you agree that placing a portion of the bomber force on day-to-
day alert would increase its flexibility?
    General Cotton. As a former Joint Forces Air Component 
Commander, I would like to have that conversation in closed 
session because I can actually do that without putting them on 
alert.
    Senator Ernst. Okay, and in general, would you agree that 
moving some of the ICBM force to mobile platforms would 
increase survivability?
    General Cotton. In general.
    Senator Ernst. In general. In general, would deploying 
SLCM-N expand our at sea deterrent?
    General Cotton. I think it would address our adversaries' 
perceive advantage of limited use.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, and in general, would deploying 
ground-based theater-range nuclear forces bolster our 
deterrent?
    General Cotton. I would like to talk to you about that one 
in closed session.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. Well, I appreciate that. I think that 
it is important that we continue to have those discussions and 
understand what our flexibility and options are as we continue 
to support our nuclear triad.
    Thank you very much for that, and General Dickinson, just 
in the time that I have left. In your efforts with the Combined 
Space Operations Initiative member nations, I did notice that 
you had met recently with space leaders from South Korea and 
Japan. How is this space integration improving with these non-
five eyes members?
    General Dickinson. Thank you for the question. That is a 
great initiative, the Combined Space Operations Initiative 
board that we have. We just met in New Zealand a few months 
back, and that is the five eyes plus France and Germany.
    But outside of those South Korea and Japan in particular, 
we are very--working very closely with them. In fact, to the 
point where we are doing exercises with them, so we have an 
exercise program called Global Sentinel, which is an 
unclassified exercise program where we do space domain 
awareness training.
    They are included in that plus 22 other nations as well, 
and that has been very successful. We also have the Space 
Force, as well as U.S. Space Command, have personnel serving on 
the peninsula--now, not large numbers, but small numbers. But 
we are integrating with the forces, the Korean forces on the 
ground in Korea as well as in Japan.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you. I think it is incredibly 
important that we continue to work with nations around the 
globe. Mr. Chairman, I want to associate myself with the 
comments that Mr. Rounds had as well. I think it is very 
important that we listen to our military leadership, and based 
on your best military advice, to make those decisions that are 
best for the defense of our Nation. Thank you, gentlemen.
    General Cotton. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Warren, 
please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, the Biden 
administration is requesting $835 billion in the largest, one 
of the largest Pentagon budgets in history. Despite that 
gigantic request, I am expecting that we will receive a torrent 
of letters from the services and the combatant commands asking 
for billions more through the so-called unfunded priorities 
list.
    That is the Pentagon's term for it, but I just call them 
wish lists. The DOD doesn't have to follow the same rules as 
every other Federal agency, which is other agencies have to 
balance their must-haves against their nice-to-haves and come 
up with a budget. Instead, each part of DOD also submits a 
second list of things that didn't go through the budget process 
that they still want funded.
    In January, I sent a letter to Secretary Austin, along with 
Senators Braun and Lee and King, telling DOD not to send 
Congress any wish lists as part of this year's budget process. 
Last year, some parts of DOD did not put anything on their wish 
list.
    So, my questions today are about whether or not the two of 
you will choose that route this year. So, General Dickinson, 
you run Space Command. Will you be submitting additional 
funding requests on top of the budget that DOD sent to Congress 
this morning?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. I will submit a 
list, and there is a couple of reasons why I will. So being a 
Combatant Command that is only about three and a half years 
old, we are continuing to evolve. We are continuing mature. I 
described a little bit earlier how we are getting more people, 
our infrastructure is growing, and what we have facing us right 
now is a very dynamic threat in the space domain, our pacing 
challenge being China.
    With that, we find ourselves in a situation where we try to 
grow a little bit quicker, and sometimes when we do that 
because of the threat, it will cost a little more money and 
money and money that I haven't forecasted because I wasn't able 
to look at that inside of the budget cycle. That is the first 
piece of that.
    The second piece of it is as I look to round out some of 
the capabilities that I need. Specifically space domain 
awareness, we are finding in the commercial market that there 
are companies that can provide that type of capability to us, 
and we are taking that capability in our commercial 
integrations strategy and bringing those partners on board.
    Sometimes I don't have that, how much that is going to cost 
in a contract, inside of a 2-year budget cycle that we are in. 
So those are some things that I am doing that would be in my 
UPL [unfunded priorities list]. One would be, how do I grow my 
command faster to meet the threat? Second, how do I bring on 
capabilities that I might not have forecasted, that I have come 
to realize--.
    Senator Warren. So the budget that has just been submitted 
this morning, you are telling me, is already out of date for 
your command and that you want to go outside the budget 
process. You don't want to have to do the 10-year cost 
estimates. You want to go outside that to just plus up your 
budget. Is that right?
    General Dickinson. It is. The reason I would submit a UPL 
is to make sure that I can grow as the threat--.
    Senator Warren. Well, but that is the point of the budget 
process, is that you go to the Department of Defense, you say, 
``here is how I need to grow.'' They give you a number, and 
then you make the appropriate choices within that number. You 
are just saying they didn't give you a big enough number, so 
you want to do an end run in order to plus up your budget? Is 
that what you are saying, General?
    General Dickinson. I am saying that the space domain, the 
characterization of what I see going on in space with the 
advancements of the threat from the Chinese in space warrent me 
to be able to account for that--.
    Senator Warren. Well, but that is the point of going 
through the DOD budgeting process. You have been given a number 
by DOD and you have just decided to go outside that. I want to 
also be sure to get to General Cotton. You run our Nation's 
Strategic Command, responsible for our nuclear weapons arsenal.
    Now, during your confirmation, you told me, ``as the 
Commander, my job is to ensure that I can execute my mission 
with the dollars I have been given.'' General Cotton, same 
question to you as General Dickinson. Will you be submitting 
additional funding requests on top of the budget that DOD sent 
to Congress this morning?
    General Cotton. Thank you, Senator. I think I had that 
caveat there, too, as far as talking about emerging 
responsibilities and emerging threats. No different than what 
General Dickinson said. The 2-year cycle, things change within 
a 2-year cycle.
    I have been asked this morning on how am I going to handle 
looking at the new emerging threats that we have just seen in 
probably the last 60 days of what is going on within the 
strategic threat picture.
    So right now, we are going to have to look to see if we are 
going to submit an UPL to be able to get after some of the 
threats that we are seeing today. I am responsible for EMS, the 
spectrum management piece.
    We are right there on a 2-year cycle where we didn't do 
that 2 years ago for the 2024 budget to understand how we are 
going to be able to set that up, to be able to get after some 
problems. I stand by what I said as a commander, I will always 
try to make sure that I get--I can be able to do my job within 
my means. But I always, as all commanders, we all have emerging 
threats or needs that might change the calculus on what our 
previous budget had.
    Senator Warren. Well, I appreciate that, and I am out of 
time, but I just want to say I think we should be asking DOD to 
write budgets that reflect their actual priorities, and that 
they should know as much about these emerging threats as the 
individual commanders do, and that we should not be doing a 
dual estimate here of budgets where you have one number and 
then you just come in and ask for a lot of additional money. I 
think that is wrong. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    General Cotton. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. I sympathize with what Senator 
Warren is saying. I mean, it is hard to figure out what the 
budget should be, and so there ought to be a way where we 
know--we hear everything and then try to make a decision.
    Thanks for what you do. Can you just talk about--first off, 
you watch all the stuff that China is doing. Clearly the public 
should know, the fentanyl coming across the border, the Chinese 
spy balloon, the surveillance with DJI drones, they have got 
TikTok and all that stuff.
    So take--what could we do? What could the public do? What 
should we do on things like that? Is there anything that we 
could do that would impact and make your jobs and what you are 
trying to do as part of our defense easier? Both of you. 
Thanks. Whoever wants to go first.
    General Cotton. Senator Scott, thank you. I think public 
advocation, the advocacy of--for my portfolio, for example, the 
advocacy of the modernization of the nuclear triad, the 
modernization of the weapons complex, the modernization of 
infrastructure. Those are the things that on the surface, I 
don't know that the American people will truly understand on 
the effects of not having those things are and the effects to 
the national security of our Nation for not having those type 
of things. So, advocacy in the public light from yourself and 
others to be able to articulate the needs that we have I think 
makes a big difference for us.
    General Dickinson. I think it is advocacy and education and 
awareness of how important for my portfolio-space, is to not 
only military operations, but just our way of American life and 
really the global economy.
    As we watched Artemis I launch here not too long ago, and 
we see the excitement of going back to the moon and beyond, I 
think that really has motivated the American public and the 
world, for that matter, that we are going back to the moon and 
beyond.
    But when you look at that, and you look at what the Chinese 
are doing today with their own space station on orbit, their 
own ability to go to the moon. Go to the moon and scoop up some 
rocks and come back, demonstrating their technology 
advancements.
    We need to understand that that has a military application 
too, and that the same assets or similar assets that we depend 
upon in everyday life here in the United States and around the 
world is dependent upon space.
    Space fuels the economy. Space fuels our lifestyles. I 
think just understanding that space is exciting from a civil 
commercial piece, we also need to be able to say it could be 
held at risk. That risk is what I am doing each and every day, 
is to try to mitigate that risk or reduce that risk.
    Senator Scott. So how can you or how can we or how can the 
Biden administration, any of us, take what we watch what China 
is doing every day that we all get to see, right, to do a 
better job of explaining what we need to do on nuclear 
deterrence and what we need to do on space. How can we put 
those together where the public will get it?
    Because you are right, it is going to be--we got to 
advocate for this stuff. The public doesn't believe in it. It 
is going to be hard for us to, to get the money to funded, 
right. Because we represent the people in our State. So how 
would--what should each of us be doing better?
    General Dickinson. I think talking about what they are 
doing, in space right now in terms of, you go back to 2007 when 
they conducted that direct decent ASAT [anti-satellite] test.
    That test, we are still tracking more than 2,000 pieces of 
debris from a test that happened in 2007. That type of 
messaging and that type of conversation, where appropriate, I 
think is very important to do. From my perspective, that is how 
you get--a constant conversation about how are they improving 
in space.
    Senator Scott. Okay.
    General Cotton. Senator Scott from my portfolio, I think is 
actually educating folks to understand that what does it mean 
when the Department of Defense says that China is a pacing 
threat? What does that really mean to folks that are in 
Melbourne, Florida?
    Being able to describe that and understand what does that 
mean when we say that there is a nuclear breakout and then the 
first time in the history of the United States since the advent 
of nuclear weapons, that the United States has two nuclear 
peers. That is the education that needs to happen for our 
American people.
    Senator Scott. Right. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator Kelly, 
please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Dickinson, 
since we left off with Senator Scott's question about your 
answer a little bit about commercial space, I want to start 
there.
    In February, the president of SpaceX revealed that the 
company had taken active steps to prevent Ukrainian forces from 
using Starlink technology with their drones. SpaceX admitted 
they had not foreseen the weaponization, their words, of their 
capabilities. I was personally disappointed to see 
discontinuation of full services at such a critical time for 
Ukraine's self-defense.
    General, as SPACECOM moves forward in deepening its 
partnership with industry and foreign partners, how are you 
approaching the agreements with industry on military use of 
commercial capabilities?
    General Dickinson. Senator, there is no question that 
SpaceX's Starlink system has been used extensively by Ukraine 
in its response to the Russian aggression. I think the use of 
Starlink has been described in numerous media accounts almost 
since the beginning of that conflict. I think this demonstrates 
that commercial space capabilities can play a significant role 
in our modern high intensity conflicts.
    The concerns, I think, SpaceX representatives recently 
expressed about Ukraine's use of Starlink highlight the 
importance of shared understanding between commercial service 
providers and their customers and users. So, these issues, in 
my mind, bear on contracts in all operational domains, not just 
specific to space.
    Senator Kelly. Do you feel there is a connection between 
the availability of this capability to our partners, being 
Ukraine in this conflict, and relationships we have with 
companies like SpaceX?
    General Dickinson. Yes.
    Senator Kelly. How are we going to ensure that DOD and our 
partners will have all the capabilities available throughout 
the range of military operations? If you have any specifics 
about this going forward, I would love to hear them.
    General Dickinson. Yes, there is an initiative that is 
working right now within the Department, within the Space 
Force, that is actually looking at what you just described 
there. How do we make sure during times of conflict that if we 
are relying on commercial companies for certain services, that 
they will be available to us?
    There are models like that right now, for example, the 
craft model that we use in the Department right now, the 
civilian reserve air fleet. You know, there are--so that may 
serve as a model as they go forward in their work, and we 
participate, U.S. Space Command, in that process.
    Senator Kelly. General, I am going to have my office 
followup. If you need assistance there, we are here to help.
    General Dickinson. Thank you.
    Senator Kelly. General Cotton, In the years since Russia's 
unprovoked assault in Ukraine, the United States has been 
forced to rethink our nuclear posture and how we think about 
deterrence. Just a few weeks ago, Russia announced that it 
would suspend its participation in the New START Treaty.
    But even prior to that, I mean we all knew that Russia was 
refusing inspection of nuclear facilities, which was a key 
condition of the agreement. This behavior, along with increased 
Chinese aggression and the influence from China, but also North 
Korea's regular testing of ballistic missiles, and Iran's, I 
would say, undisputed progress to enrich uranium, it 
underscores the importance of having a strong deterrence.
    The long-range standoff weapon (LRSO), the long range 
standoff missile system being developed by Raytheon in Tucson, 
Arizona, is going to play a critical role in the deterrence of 
our top four adversaries in the future. The ability to forward 
deploy this missile on U.S. bombers sends a powerful message to 
our adversaries, but also to our allies. So, General, can you 
expand on why this is such a critical asset for our Nation?
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you for the question. LRSO 
is a replacement for the air-launch cruise missile, which is 
the air-launch cruise missile nuclear leg of our triad. That 
weapon is still a reliable weapon and it is a safe and secure 
weapon, but it is well past its life as far as capability 
sustained, so we need to replace it with the LRSO.
    You are absolutely right. I am quite pleased with what I 
have seen with the contractor on the work that they are doing. 
It is fundamental because that is fundamental to long range 
standoff for the air leg of the nuclear triad.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you, and my understanding, 
without going into anything, you know, classified, that we will 
get more capability out of this weapon than we had with the 
prior, I think it was AGM-86, was it?
    General Cotton. Yes, and we could talk more about that in 
closed, if you would like.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, and thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am 
going to submit another question for the record on traveling 
wave tubes. Specific capability that we don't have a lot of 
depth in here, in our industrial base. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Budd, 
please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman. General Dickinson, 
General Cotton, thank you both for being here today. You know, 
last year, President Biden's defense budget was woefully 
insufficient to keep pace with China and Russia and also 
inflation.
    I think many of us are concerned with this upcoming budget, 
particularly when it comes to nuclear modernization. So, 
General Cotton, other than budgetary constraints, we have 
talked a lot about that today, what barriers exist to nuclear 
modernization efforts?
    General Cotton. Senator, thanks for the question. I think 
fundamental to me is ensuring that we don't have any slips in 
any of the modernization programs that we have as far as 
timelines in terms of being able to get to completion.
    The industrial base and supply chain--we hear many people 
talk about that. It is a thing, and that is worrisome to me 
because that is external to even what folks might think our 
technical challenges, but when you throw that on top of what we 
are trying to do and what we are seeing, that becomes a 
challenge.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, and for both of you, to the extent 
that you can discuss it in this setting, and maybe we will hear 
more later on, how destabilizing is China's development, of 
their nuclear capable hypersonic fractional orbital bombardment 
capability?
    I know that is a concept that has been around for decades, 
but we are seeing with new technology their redevelopment of 
that. So, are there certain systems? First of all, how 
destabilizing is that? Is there something that the U.S. should 
field in response?
    General Cotton. It is destabilizing. You are right, it is 
something that folks have been thinking through for decades, 
but because of the destabilization, results of what that weapon 
can bring forth, others decided not to go in that direction. I 
think for our perspective in Strategic Command, it is about 
warning.
    As my fellow COCOM Commander in NORTHCOM and NORAD would 
tell you that becomes a problem in being able to understand 
what your timelines are on when something might be coming into 
the Homeland.
    General Dickinson. From my perspective as the global sensor 
manager, being able to see it is the first thing we have to be 
able to do. As I have mentioned earlier in a previous response, 
these are emerging type of threats, that we need to be able to 
address.
    We are looking very closely at it in terms of how do we use 
capabilities that we didn't traditionally use for that type of 
activity, in this case, the fractional overall bombardment 
capability.
    Do we have things that we can better leverage today to help 
us maintain custody of it, when it is in flight? So, for me, it 
is an area that I am aggressively working today with the assets 
that I have and we are looking to the future to bring on 
increased capability.
    Senator Budd. Thanks. We will pick up the discussion of 
that in the other setting. General Dickinson, how would you 
characterize the current resilience of our military satellite 
constellations, and what efforts are being made to improve 
resilience in the near and the short term? The concern is that 
because these systems are so expensive, we buy less of them, 
thus making them more vulnerable. So, if you would comment on 
that, please.
    General Dickinson. Certainly. So, as I look at the 
architecture that we have today and the resiliency of that 
architecture, we are looking at ways today that we hadn't 
looked at in the past in terms of making them more resilient.
    Our ability to develop tactics, techniques, and procedures 
for our assets that are on orbit in order to make them more 
resilient. Maybe able to move, maybe point in a different 
direction, are examples of that, or actually doing--so as I 
mentioned in my opening comment, that we look at it from a 
link, ground station, and satellite perspective.
    Those are the three segments. In order to increase our 
resiliency, we look very carefully at how we can harden, not 
only the satellite vehicle, but the link to the ground, and 
then the ground station through cyber protection back to 
wherever the command-and-control facility is.
    So, we look at it from that approach. How can we better--
how can we increase the resiliency on orbit, as I mentioned 
earlier, and then those two other links.
    Senator Budd. Is there a scenario where you would have less 
expensive but so many more of them that we would thus reduce 
our vulnerability?
    General Dickinson. As we go to the future, the department 
is looking very closely at doing mega constellation, similar to 
what we have seen with some of the commercial companies here in 
the United States where we have thousands of satellites on 
orbit.
    The resiliency there is very good in terms of thousands of 
satellites not knowing which satellite does necessarily what 
function or the ability of that network to self-heal itself if 
you lose two or three or four of them.
    This type of resiliency actually causes some of our 
adversaries to pause because it is very difficult to defeat 
something like that or even degrade it. So that is where we are 
going in the future, and that is exactly what we need to be 
doing.
    Senator Budd. Thank you both. Chair, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Budd. Senator 
Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, General 
Cotton and General Dickinson. Hawaii holds a strategic position 
in the Pacific with many integral Department of Defense 
equities, which makes the threat of missile attack particularly 
acute for the people of Hawaii. I have been asking for many 
years now how DOD will ensure Hawaii is defended from a missile 
attack.
    Recently the cost assessment and program evaluation, CAPE, 
conducted a study on how best to meet the current and future 
missile defense needs of Hawaii. I have still not received a 
brief on the results of that study or the Department's plan for 
how it intends to protect Hawaii from all types of missile 
threats, from current and future potential adversaries. Is it 
fair to say that each of you has roles to play in missile 
defense?
    Yes? I am not hearing anything. Yes, you do. It is fair to 
say. So, can you just briefly describe what these roles are 
that you have a missile defense?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Hirono. General Dickinson.
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. So yes, in U.S. 
Space Command, I have got a responsibility to provide space 
enabling capabilities to the Joint Force, in this case 
INDOPACOM [United States Indo-Pacific Command]. Those space 
enabling capabilities are missile warning as well as position, 
navigation, timing, satellite communications. Those are the 
pieces that we provide to the missile defense architecture.
    Senator Hirono. General Cotton.
    General Cotton. For mine, ma'am--thank you for the 
question. For us, above all else, it is about providing warning 
and future architectures and protection of the Homeland. So 
that is the oversight that we have as far as homeland defense, 
providing effective protection of U.S. against rogue nations.
    Senator Hirono. So, you both have responsibilities 
regarding missile warnings. I do have serious concerns that 
there is not one dedicated person in the Department of Defense 
with the responsibility to ensure that there is a plan for 
missile defense of Hawaii, as there are many roles and 
responsibilities doled out across the Department of Defense for 
this one issue.
    That is why I expressed frustration, because every time I 
ask about missile defense or Hawaii, I don't get a response. 
So, as we have seen in the continuing challenges regarding the 
regional crisis, where there is not one ultimate person 
ultimately responsible over the planning and execution of an 
issue as it relates to what needs to happen with Red Hill--and 
it adds to the lack of trust within the community that the 
military will get things right with regard to Red Hill.
    So, there is room for mishaps to occur. I await someone to 
tell me how Hawaii will be defended from missile attacks. 
Moving on, to continue in the line of missile defense, there is 
robust conversation occurring in Congress to look for ways to 
more effectively use the microwave spectrum to support 
developments in wireless telecommunications technologies while 
protecting national security.
    The development of 5G communications will have a great 
impact on the U.S.'s ability to remain a world leader, in both 
the commercial and defense spaces. The Department of Defense is 
currently conducting a study, in conjunction with NTIA, on how 
it can more effectively and efficiently use the spectrum, and 
how spectrum sharing would impact current systems.
    I believe this analysis will be critical to making an 
informed decision about this very important national issue, and 
I believe it is critically important Congress extend the FCC 
[Federal Communications Commission] spectrum auction authority 
until September 2023, while the DOD concludes this important 
study.
    As I am sure you are aware, the current auction authority 
will expire tonight, March 9th, unless Congress agrees to a 
short-term extension. With negotiations ongoing, we should 
agree to a 60-day extension, at least in my view, and not let 
spectrum authority, auction authority lapse.
    So, it is critical that DOD and NTIA thoroughly conduct 
this study contemplating all options, including vacating and 
sharing the spectrum band. It will be imperative that the study 
is not only comprehensive but is submitted in a timely matter.
    Clearly, I share the concerns expressed by Senator Rounds 
on this issue. In the meantime, General Dickinson and General 
Cotton, what types of impacts do you anticipate the study will 
identify, and do you see opportunities for greater sharing of 
the spectrum for civilian usage? My time is up, so perhaps you 
can be very brief.
    General Dickinson. Yes, Senator. So, we are part of that 
ongoing study that the Department of Defense is doing. I 
can't--I won't try to guess what the outcomes will be from 
that. I know as being part of that study that my concerns and 
my voice will be heard in that study in terms of how important 
that part of the inspector spectrum is to my mission every day. 
My mission every day supports the rest of the Joint Force as 
well.
    General Cotton. Senator, the same with STRATCOM. We are 
part of that team that is part of that study, so I am awaiting 
the results of that as well.
    Senator Hirono. It is going to be very important that the 
study gets done on time because there are other things that are 
happening with regard to this issue, as you all know. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I had a question 
to General Cotton on modernization. Clearly, you know Whiteman 
Air Force Base in Missouri, we are very proud of that, which I 
know you are very familiar, and part of the nuclear triad and 
the B-2 stealth bomber.
    I guess you mentioned, one of your focuses is to make sure 
that as we approach this modernization, that there aren't any 
there aren't any gaps along the way. I guess the focus of my 
question would be, what is the level of concern that there 
might be, and what can we do to make sure that that doesn't 
happen?
    So along the way, as we move forward in this, what are some 
things to look out for and what can we be doing to help out 
with that?
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you for the question, and 
yes, the incredible men and women of the 509 there are Whiteman 
Airforce Base. I think fundamentally, as any--if we start 
seeing delays in programs and delays on getting to completion 
of a program, because what I don't want and what I have 
articulated is I need to make sure, the B-2 is a good example, 
that I have sufficient forces in play all the time.
    Even during the transition, we must ensure that I have the 
legacy systems in place where I can still present options to 
the President of the United States. If you start getting slips, 
then folks start saying, ``well, okay, so when can I start. Is 
there a is there when can I start divesting and do I slow down 
divestiture? What do I do about divestiture as a component 
commander, I need to make sure that I have those sources 
available.''
    I am constantly watching to make sure that those future 
roadmaps for your area, the bomber force, for example, for 
Columbia, for example, ICBMS, every portfolio that I own, is 
being modernized right now. So, as we look to those and make 
sure that we don't build gaps because of delays in----
    Senator Schmitt. Are you confident there aren't those gaps 
right now, wherever we are at in that process 0under your 
command?
    General Cotton. Well, as I said earlier, my bigger concern 
is what we are seeing with the industrial base and what we are 
seeing with the supply chain.
    Senator Budd. Okay. General Dickinson, I guess my question 
to you is on the space race. I do feel like whether it was the 
Chinese spy balloon, whether it is the fentanyl, that has been 
mentioned. TikTok. The public is becoming much more aware, 
right now, in real time, the real threat that China poses.
    I mean, they are not messing around. They mean business, 
and I am a new member here, and the briefings that we have had 
in my 2 months here are sobering in many ways. That is, a big 
focus of mine and my office: to make sure that we are doing 
everything we can to be ready to challenge that threat. I guess 
Senator Scott asked the question about what we can do.
    I want to drill down on that a little bit more. 
Specifically, what are two or three things that you don't think 
from a space perspective, you don't think the public might be 
aware of as it relates to China in space that are terrifying?
    General Dickinson. A couple of things. If you just look at 
the sheer number of launches, space launches that they do in a 
year--that is a statistic that most people don't know. I will 
give you a statistic there. In 2022, last year, there were 186 
space launches. Of those, 64 were Chinese, United States was 
87, the rest before. Just putting things on orbit, whatever 
they may be.
    They have rounded out their equivalent of our GPS satellite 
network. They call that the BeiDou. They have accurate 
position, navigation, and timing capabilities worldwide. If you 
look at the just the sheer number of satellites that are in 
orbit and what their intended use is everything from ISR 
[intelligence, surveillance and reconaissance] satellites to 
communications satellites to PNT [positioning, navigation and 
timing] satellites.
    So, they are moving in a direction where they want to be, 
peer to us in terms of capabilities in space. They are still--
we are still the best in space. But what we need to make sure 
is that that gap does not close and that we continue to keep 
the gap or increase it.
    Senator Budd. I guess just a final question. What are a 
couple of those capabilities, do you think, outside of the 
launches? A couple of those capabilities that, again, most 
folks might not be that aware of.
    General Dickinson. Well, it would be ISR satellites, so 
they can--they have observations in terms of being able to see 
around all around the globe in a persistent manner. Then the 
other piece is that position, navigation, and timing. That is, 
PNT is a critical component of any military operation and quite 
frankly, any commercial or civilian operation as well. Having 
accurate PNT is very fundamental to that, and they have that.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman. Senator 
Rosen, please
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed. I really 
appreciate you holding this hearing. I would like to thank 
General Cotton and General Dickinson for, of course, your great 
testimony today and for your service to our country.
    Of course, we have the Nevada National Security Site right 
here in southern Nevada. I want to speak a little bit about the 
upgrades that it needs. So, General Cotton, I want to followup 
on a question I asked at your nomination hearing now that you 
have taken command. It is an issue I have raced to the 
Committee several times.
    At the Nevada National Security Site, we oversee the 
Stockpile Stewardship Program, principally the U1a facility--
that underground lab where scientists conduct the subcritical 
experiments to verify the safety and reliability of our nuclear 
stockpile without explosive testing.
    U1a is undergoing major construction. It is a project that 
will soon house the most capable weapons radiographic system in 
the world. However, NNSA [National Nuclear Security 
Administration] currently faces significant infrastructure 
delays, including at the Nevada National Security Site.
    So how will the upgrades to the Stockpile Stewardship 
Program, like the U1a, affect STRATCOM certification of the 
nuclear stockpile? How do these infrastructure modernization 
challenges overall delay your impact to fully fulfill your 
responsibilities?
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you for the question. As I 
had said earlier to the Committee, making sure that we have the 
proper funding, the proper insight on the modernization of the 
weapons complex writ large, to your point, is absolutely 
critical for us in the modernization of our programs, when we 
have been talking about the weapons system platforms 
themselves. So that is going to be critically important.
    When we talk about NNSA and the problems that--or the 
challenges that they are facing in regards to infrastructure, I 
monitor that daily.
    Senator Rosen. So that is how you are addressing these 
structural delays, just monitoring? Is there something else 
you--.
    General Cotton. I continue to push--the requirement, ma'am, 
for pit production for me, for example, has not changed.
    Senator Rosen. Okay. Thank you. I am going to move on to 
you, General Dickinson, for cyber mission and space, because we 
know cyber operations, you have been mentioning of course, they 
play a critical role, well not just in our space capabilities, 
but honestly, I believe in every aspect of our capabilities.
    We see our adversaries increasingly developing their 
counterspace capabilities that really undermine our interests. 
So, China, they have emphasized the offensive cyberspace 
capabilities, that they are critical to their cyber warfare 
capabilities. Are you concerned about the increasing threat of 
cyber-attacks from China and how they could jeopardize the 
United States space operations?
    You spoke about doing the constellation mode, some of the 
other things that you might be doing, you can speak to in an 
unclassified setting. So, are these some of the best tools you 
can use against--kind of counter the space cyber aggression, if 
you will?
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. Cybersecurity is a 
top priority within the Command because we understand the 
challenges and the threats, just as you mentioned there. The 
Command is actively working cybersecurity every day.
    So as the Command has matured over the last three and a 
half years, we have built cyber, cyber protection, in from the 
very beginning. An example of that, we have a joint cyber 
center that resides within the Command, now that is that 
operational capability.
    Senator Rosen. I am sorry to interrupt, are you using 
machine learning and artificial intelligence to maintain the 
digital superiority in the new centers?
    We use that type of--those types of capabilities to do as I 
described in terms of our JCC, Joint Cyber Center, as well as 
the new Space Force Delta 6 that stood up that does cyber 
protection for our satellites, satellite communications control 
networks, as well as the integration of General Nakasone's 
integrated planning element within my command as well.
    We participate in the greater cybersecurity and the cyber 
deterrence process with USCYBERCOM [United States Cyber 
Command] as well, through their cyber priority effects list. 
Every day one of my top command priorities is doing--securing 
the terrain, doing digital superiority. Part of that is making 
sure that we are hard in terms of cyber defense.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I am going to in the really 
quickly and I will probably take the answer off the record 
because I ask everybody this. STEM [science, technology, 
engineering, and mathematics] outreach programs, how are we 
going to reach these goals if we don't have the workforce, the 
pipeline folks coming in or being trained?
    So, I will take it off the record is my time is expiring, 
but I want to know about your STEM outreach efforts, 
particularly in cyber. How do you plan to grow them? How do you 
plan to retain good people because it really is--it is 
critical. So, thank you, Mr. Chair. I will take that off the 
record. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rosen. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Generals, 
thanks for being here, and service for all of you here in this 
room today. General Dickinson, I know you talked about Starlink 
a little bit in Ukraine. Give your personal assessment really 
how that has worked for Ukraine and for all of us in the 
future.
    General Dickinson. Thank you, Senator. So I think the 
lessons that I take from watching that capability, the Starlink 
capability, is I think it demonstrates what those large 
constellations can provide in terms of thousands of satellites 
providing a service or a capability to a certain entity, in 
this particular case, Ukraine, I think, shows: one, is the 
maturation of our commercial space industry enabled to build 
something as technically sophisticated as that on scale, and 
put it on orbit, and maintain it. I think that is a big lesson 
learned or takeaway for me from the Ukraine-Russia conflict.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. General Cotton, a lot of 
people talk about tactical nuclear weapons but don't know what 
that really means. If Putin were to use a tactical weapon in 
Kyiv, what damage would that do and what would be the fallout?
    General Cotton. Sir, so when we talk about non-strategic 
nuclear weapons, just for a definition, non-strategic nuclear 
weapons are any weapons that are currently not under the New 
START treaty. So, for Russia, that is approximately 2,000 
weapons. For the effects, I would like to hold off and have 
that answer to you during a closed session, if we could.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you very much. General 
Dickinson, it probably wouldn't be--it would be unfitting for 
me not to ask you about Space Command in your last hearing 
here, since the Senator from Colorado, I mean New Hampshire 
brought it up a little bit.
    We have heard a lot about in the last few years about 
basing decision of the command headquarters. I didn't want to 
get back into this back and forth, but when my colleagues bring 
it up, I want to make sure the facts are correct.
    General, in 2019, the Air Force identified six suitable 
locations for Space Command, is that correct? In 2020, when the 
Secretary of Defense, Mark Esper, testified before this 
Committee, he instructed the Air Force to allow for communities 
to self-nominate. That resulted in the Air Force examining 66 
communities across any 26 states, correct?
    General Dickinson. As best I can recall.
    Senator Tuberville. It was an exhaustive selection process 
that weighed 21 different factors and involved site visits, 
interviews, input from up and down the chain of command. That 
process took 8 months, correct?
    General Dickinson. As best I can recall.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Which community ranked 
number one in your--in that analysis at the end of the day?
    General Dickinson. I don't recall exactly which one.
    Senator Tuberville. Well, I will refresh your memory, 
Huntsville. Do you recall which base ranked second?
    General Dickinson. I don't recall.
    Senator Tuberville. Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska. You 
recall third? You probably don't--which was the Joint Base in 
San Antonio. Commander-in-Chief selected the location that the 
Air Force ranked number one.
    Yet since the President selected Huntsville, the location, 
the Air Force study ranked number one in January 2021, we have 
had 2 years of delay and the world is on fire right now. We 
need to catch up. The Colorado delegation asked for an 
investigative report and the GAO [Government Accountability 
Office] reported on the process.
    Ironic, Colorado wasn't in second or third, but they asked 
for a report. So, when the GAO examined this process, they 
said, I am going to quote here, ``the Redstone Arsenal ranked 
as the highest scoring location in the evaluation phase, the 
highest ranked location in the selection phase, and the 
location with the most advantages in the decision matrix.
    Air Force official stated that the decision to identify 
Redstone Arsenal as a preferred location stemmed from Air Force 
analysis showing it was the strongest candidate location.'' We 
are going back and forth with this, and I know Secretary 
Kendall is going back and forth and hopefully we get this done.
    Hopefully we get it done before your term is up. I know 
that we have got commercial people that are involved in this. I 
know commercial people are going to be hugely involved in our--
in Space Command in years and years to come, and we look 
forward to all of that coming together in one location in the 
very near future, and hopefully that is Huntsville.
    So, General, thank you for your service, really. Thank you 
for your service. What you have done for Space Command. You 
have been the only one there. You brought it from infancy. You 
have done a great job. Thank you.
    General Dickinson. Thank you.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you to both 
Generals for your service and for being here. I want to start, 
maybe start and end with you, General Cotton. I want to ask 
you, your predecessors had some luxuries you don't have.
    Of course, they had six B-52 bases in the Northern tier 
capable of taking off and landing that great big legacy 
machine, six of them between Michigan and Montana. There are 
only two that remain that have the cement, and one, of course, 
in Minot, which you are more than a little bit familiar with.
    The other being Grand Forks. The base in Grand Forks has 
narrowed the 300-foot-wide runway to 150 by moving the lights 
in but all the concrete remains. As you look forward--and I was 
interested in one of your previous answers about LRSO, the 
importance of LRSO in the legacy systems, particularly in the 
context of a potential gap.
    But when it comes to bomber combat employment base that we 
have talked about a few times, how useful would more runway 
space be for the disbursement of those B-52s and maybe other 
large aircraft, especially while we still have some of them 
intact that could be prepared quickly.
    General Cotton. Senator Cramer, thank you for the question, 
and our baby the buff, the B-52, I just recently looked at an 
article that was published on the Air and Space Forces Magazine 
that showing the testing that is underway for the re-
engineering of the B-52. So I am knocking on wood that 
everything is going well in regards of serving the commercial 
and your replacement program for that venerable, incredible 
machine.
    To your point, you are absolutely right. We used to have 
numerous airfields throughout the United States of America that 
could act as dispersal sites for a lot of our strategic forces 
and weapons. Not permanent locations, but the places where you 
can disperse.
    Over the decades that has eroded. Many communities will 
look and see and say, I don't understand why I have an 11,000-
foot runway at my regional airport, and then it is no longer a 
11,000 foot runway. So, we are looking into it. I am actually 
having the Commander of Air Force Global Strike take a look at 
dispersal locations again, because now, once again, as we have 
been discussing, we have two near peers.
    First time in the history of what STRATCOM has had to deal 
with. So we are looking into that right now, sir, so to answer 
your question.
    Senator Cramer. No, I appreciate that, and as you know, the 
folks up in Grand Forks are capable of moving a lot of snow 
fast so that 300-foot runways ready to be deployed. With regard 
to those two near-peer adversaries or threats.
    China's capabilities, of course, are growing at an 
unprecedented pace, as you guys have already referenced. 
Russia, of course, becomes more unpredictable and dangerous all 
of the time. Some of the programs that we are relying to 
maintain that deterrence were created with different threats in 
mind, obviously, or at least different scales of those threats.
    I often joke with Senator King that the reason I accepted 
the ranking position on the Seapower Subcommittee was so I 
could get my hands on the third leg of the triad. But do you 
think, are 12 Columbia-class submarines enough? I guess that is 
the bottom line. I know we have a lot of challenges, but given 
this threat, particularly from China, are 12 enough?
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you for that question. I 
think it goes back to the original statement that I made in 
regards to I think we have to have a conversation and look at 
force posture. Force posture is all three legs of the triad to 
ensure that we have what we need moving forward into the 
2030's, 2040's, 2050's.
    Senator Cramer. Since I have about half a minute left, I do 
want to ask both of you a really basic question that I know 
requires just a simple answer. It is really in response to 
Senator Warren's line of questioning regarding the budget and 
unfunded priorities. Do you consider national security as a 
like to have or a must have in today's threats? General Cotton 
first, and then. General Dickinson.
    General Cotton. It is a must have.
    Senator Cramer. General Dickinson.
    General Dickinson. It is a must have.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Senator Sullivan, 
please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, good 
to see you. General Cotton, thanks again for coming to the 
Alaska Day event. Native people in my State were very honored 
by your presence, and I think it was a really good event, so 
thank you very much on that.
    I want to ask you about the recently conducted CSIS [Center 
for Strategic and International Studies] Taiwan scenario war 
game that I am sure you are familiar with. It recommended that 
the B-1s not be retired until the full complement of B-21s and 
modernized B-52s are fully on hand. Did you see that, and do 
you agree with that assessment?
    General Cotton. So I haven't seen the assessment that 
articulates B-1 perspective.
    Senator Sullivan. What do you think about that general 
statement? I am sure it is not the first time you have heard 
something along those lines. We need to look at mitigating the 
risk of B-21 delivery time going to the right----
    General Cotton. Senator, I absolutely agree that--and what 
I want to ensure is that we have enough of the bomber force 
available that is a legacy until we have a fair amount of B-21 
brand new modernized systems. So I don't see a huge dip in my 
capability and capacity moving forward.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. Let me ask another issue. I had a 
very senior U.S. Air Force officer when he was on his way out 
retiring and he was talking about force posture for some of the 
strategic forces. Mentioned, and I wasn't pushing it, but he 
mentioned that with regard to looking at where the B-21 should 
be placed, that one place that would certainly get our 
adversaries' attention, particularly China and Russia, is 
having a certain element of those homeported in Alaska, given 
our strategic location.
    As you know, Billy Mitchell called Alaska the most 
strategic place in the world. With B-21s in our closeness to 
Russia, and Japan, and Korea, and the Taiwan Strait, this was a 
recommendation that he thought made sense.
    A lot of the INDOPACOM theater generals and admirals always 
talk about West to the international dateline. I try to 
encourage them to not use that. It is kind of a lazy term. A 
lot of what is further North is actually closer to key theaters 
of engagement, whether or not you are West or East of the 
international dateline, it's all about miles.
    If you are North, our times are closer. For example, forces 
in Alaska are closer, for the most part, the key theater areas 
than Darwin, Australia. A lot of people don't know that. A lot 
of four star generals and admirals don't know that. So what is 
your thought about something like that in terms of force 
posture, especially as it relates to near-peer--it is not even 
near-peer competition. It is clearly peer competition, in my 
view, no?
    General Cotton. Senator, thank you for that. We actually 
had a discussion about that in my last role as a Commander of 
Global Strike Command in regards to, I think from the location 
of where the forces are postured, I look to my JFACC, my Joint 
Forces Air Component Commander to figure out where they can 
best maximize where that would be.
    As you know, we would always consider and have considered 
and do use the bases in Alaska for dispersal locations for our 
bomber forces even today when we are doing our bomber task 
forces.
    So, that is a conversation that I think should continue, 
that we should continue to have. But it would be with the Air 
Force in regards to location.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. My final question, I am going 
to ask for both of you. I think the Chinese spy balloon has 
raised a lot of issues. But one of the issues that I know that 
General VanHerck is looking at, and to his credit, he has been 
really pressing for a couple of years now, is domain awareness.
    Domain awareness, particularly as it relates to 
hypersonics, to cruise missiles, and even to slow moving 
objects. A lot of our detection devices--in as you know, 
Alaska, again, is key here because anything coming into the 
lower 48 to strike Chicago or New York City is going to come 
through the airspace in Alaska.
    But we have traditionally been focused on ballistic 
missiles tracking and in bombers. So how do we get on the whole 
issue of domain awareness as it relates to hypersonics, cruise 
missiles, and then even slow-moving entities like balloons, spy 
balloons?
    General Dickinson. Senator, in my portfolio in terms of 
space domain awareness, that is a critical capability that we 
continue to look at, continue to develop requirements, and also 
continue to leverage assets that we haven't necessarily used in 
the past to do that very function. Of course, Senator, you 
know, you have got two great sensors that are in your home 
State.
    We are looking forward to the LRDR coming on here soon. 
That will be obviously a big asset in addition to our 
architecture itself. But I think as we look at the evolving 
threats that we are seeing now, our approach has to be a 
layered approach in terms not only particularly with missile 
defense, but also in sensing.
    So, one sensor doesn't do it all, so we have got to figure 
out and we are figuring out where those gaps are, where those 
seams are, and how to get better at understanding the threat.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, gentlemen. Welcome back. General 
Cotton, I can't remember if we have addressed this before at 
your confirmation hearing, but I have addressed with a lot of 
your predecessor, so I want to raise with you again.
    Sometimes we hear criticism about our nuclear forces along 
the lines of that we shouldn't spend so much money on weapons 
that we never use. I sometimes point out that we don't actually 
spend that much money on our nuclear forces in the grand scheme 
of our defense budget.
    We do happen to be going through a somewhat expensive 
modernization right now, but in general it is in the low single 
percentiles. I also point out that we actually do use our 
nuclear weapons.
    We have used them every single day since August 1945 to 
deter the kind of war that we had from 1939 to 1945. Would you 
agree with that assessment?
    General Cotton. I would agree with that, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. That every single day our nuclear weapons 
deter our adversaries not just from nuclear warfare, but from 
the kind of conventional warfare that we saw so often in the 
first half, even in some cases, at a lower intensity level, the 
second half of the 20th century.
    General Cotton. I do agree.
    Senator Cotton. So, we have to have a credible nuclear 
deterrent to achieve those continued effects. Right now we have 
one nuclear arms control treaty, in effect, the New START 
treaty. However, Russia has recently suspended its cooperation 
with that treaty. Is that right?
    General Cotton. They have suspended, yes, sir.
    Senator Cotton. What do you think are the prospects for 
Russia returning into compliance with that treaty, given their 
history of cheating on other treaties like the Intermediate 
Nuclear Forces Treaty and the Open Skies Treaty?
    General Cotton. I would hope that they would come back and 
try to get in compliance, but hope is not a plan.
    Senator Cotton. Right. So over time, there is really no way 
to know if they are actually complying with the limits on 
warheads or delivery systems under that treaty.
    General Cotton. That is correct.
    Senator Cotton. I just want to talk a little bit about 
Russia's nuclear forces that are sometimes known as tactical 
nukes or strategic nukes or low yield nukes, whatever you want 
to call it. To put it simply, smaller nuclear warheads, maybe 
something akin to what we used to in World War II as opposed to 
four megaton city killers. Is that a fair characterization?
    General Cotton. That is correct, and to define it, non-
nuclear strategic weapons are defined as any weapon that is not 
under the New START treaty. It is about 2,000 weapons.
    Senator Cotton. So all these, all these weapons, whatever 
their yield, were not covered by the New START Treaty and 
therefore not covered by any treaty, correct?
    General Cotton. That is correct.
    Senator Cotton. Do you want to say how many of those kinds 
of weapons we have? If you don't want to in this setting, that 
is fine.
    General Cotton. We can talk about that in a closed session, 
sir.
    Senator Cotton. I think we have a little bit fewer than 
2,000 is the way I would put it. You might say, well, we have, 
you know, four megaton city killers. Why do we need it?
    So the logic here is that if all you have are giant city 
killers and your adversary has thousands of smaller nuclear 
weapons, they might believe that they can detonate one of the 
smaller weapons and you won't retaliate because you are not 
going to trade a four megaton city killer with a nuclear weapon 
that took an artillery battalion off the battlefield, is that 
right?
    General Cotton. There is a potential for that, exactly.
    Senator Cotton. Yes. Totally unconstrained--and Russia is 
totally unconstrained in building this and using them if they 
choose under arms control treaties. How many arms control 
treaties do we have with communist China?
    General Cotton. Zero.
    Senator Cotton. Zero. So China is not constrained at all in 
building every kind of nuclear weapon it wants. In fact, it is 
on a crash course, especially in building missile fields in 
China. Is that correct?
    General Cotton. That is correct.
    Senator Cotton. What do you think China's appetite is to 
enter some nuclear arms control agreement, say, like the New 
START treaty?
    General Cotton. I would hope they would want to come to the 
table, but my first comment stands.
    Senator Cotton. They haven't. Yes, so hope is not a 
strategy and they haven't manifested much desire to come to the 
table. Even if they did, do you think China would ever accept 
an arms control agreement that left them with fewer warheads 
and delivery systems than either Russia or the United States 
had?
    General Cotton. No, that I couldn't answer.
    Senator Cotton. I mean, if I were the leader of China, I 
don't think I would accept that, and if you did assume that 
let's say China accepted some constraint like the New START 
treaty, that would mean by definition that China and Russia 
together had significant overmatch against the United States in 
warheads and delivery systems.
    So I just think that the idea that we are restraining 
ourself from building the nuclear forces that we need to deter 
both Russia and China is the height of folly. I know you are 
not responsible for that, but I think your question--your 
answers here have illuminated. General Dickinson, I want to 
turn to you.
    I have a question about the commercial integration cell. I 
think as the security environment has grown more complex, it is 
necessary for our military to work with partner to share 
information--partners in industry to share information and 
collaborate on new capabilities.
    You have led the way with your commercial integration cell. 
Could you just discuss the status of that cell, and the 
successes you have had, and the lessons you have learned that 
we might buildupon, especially in the other combatant commands.
    General Dickinson. Senator, that is a bright spot within 
the command. Over the last three and a half years, we have 
taken our relationships with commercial industry and have 
expanded it.
    We have actually had such a bow wave, of commercial 
companies wanting to come participate with us and be part of 
the team. We actually had to rewrite our strategy so we would 
have the appropriate framework in order to onboard commercial 
companies that want to be part of the Command. They perform two 
primary functions within the Command from a commercial 
perspective.
    One is satellite communications, and the other one is space 
domain awareness. So currently we have got ten partners, 
commercial partners out at Vandenberg Space Force Base, 
traditional satcom type of capabilities that they provide to 
us. In Colorado Springs, we have what we call the Joint Task 
Force Space Defense commercial operation cell.
    They are a group of contractors that provide space domain 
awareness, telescopes, radars that can look deep into space and 
report back to us what they see. That has actually been a very 
promising enterprise there as we continue to grow that. That is 
actually where we have actually had a lot of growth with our 
allies and partners.
    So, our allies and partners around the world want to 
participate in that particular space domain awareness function. 
What is good about that particular capability is it is 
unclassified. So, our obstacles to classification barriers, 
etcetera, we don't see that with that particular cell.
    It is growing. We are getting more and more partners, and 
allies and partners as well as commercial companies. We 
actually exercise that capability during an exercise we call 
Global Sentinel, which actually has 24 of our partners and 
allies around the world that participate in that.
    We go through various scenarios on space debris mitigation, 
but it is growing and we have got interest in the allies and 
partners to participate and contribute more to it.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. Thank you. Gentlemen, thank you both 
for your service, and thanks to you and all the troops who 
serve in your commands. What you do is deadly serious business.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Cotton. We will 
adjourn the open hearing and reconvene in SVC-217, and let's 
say in 15 minutes, so give everybody a chance to rest and 
recuperate. Also, we have to vote. With that, the open portion 
of the hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:37 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                         nuclear modernization
    1. Senator Shaheen. General Cotton, a January 2023 GAO report 
expressed concerns with the lack of a scheduled risk analysis for the 
Navy's Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine (SSBN) program. Is it 
your understanding that this analysis will be performed and what role 
would STRATCOM's equities be represented in addition to the Navy's?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Navy for specific Columbia 
programmatic schedule risk issues. United States Strategic Command 
(USSTRATCOM) is following the Columbia's construction status very 
closely, and routinely engages the Navy on risk mitigation efforts and 
challenges to meeting Columbia's delivery schedule. If Columbia 
experiences a delay, there is a moderate risk the Navy will be unable 
to meet USSTRATCOM's SSBN at-sea requirements for a period of time 
during the Ohio to Columbia transition in the 2030's.

    2. Senator Shaheen. General Cotton, can you provide an update on 
the expected timeline for the Columbia-class ballistic missile 
submarine program?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Navy for specific programmatic 
timeline issues. As I understand, the Navy is pursuing an accelerated 
78-month hull construction schedule. Current construction progress, 
while behind this 78-month accelerated schedule, is still ahead of the 
84-month threshold schedule. I anticipate the Navy will meet Columbia's 
first operational deployment of calendar year 2031.

    3. Senator Shaheen. General Cotton, if delays to the program are 
anticipated, what do you understand are the causes of the delays and 
how is USSTRATCOM prepared to address the delay to maintain a reliable 
nuclear deterrent?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Navy for specific programmatic issues. 
I have established a Nuclear Recapitalization and Transition Cross-
Functional Team to assess and identify options to reduce the risks 
associated with the Triad and nuclear command, control, and 
communications (NC3) modernization transition. USSTRATCOM will continue 
to work with the Services to mitigate operational impacts resulting 
from possible timeline delays. Potential mitigation measures include 
multiple independently targetable re-entry vehicles on intercontinental 
ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and/or extending select Ohio-class 
submarines for an additional 36 months through Pre-Inactivation 
Restricted Availabilities (PIRAs). PIRA should be seen as an 
opportunity to extend select candidate Ohio-class hulls if there are 
delays in Columbia fielding.

                           usspacecom basing
    4. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, has USSPACECOM been 
successfully achieving hiring milestones for the command's civilian 
hiring process?
    General Dickinson. U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM) headquarters 
grew from 137 funded civilian positions in fiscal year 2021 to 681 
funded civilian positions in fiscal year 2023. Currently, 417 civilian 
positions in the headquarters are filled, or 61 percent. We have 103 
hiring actions in work that will be completed in the next 6 weeks, 
yielding 520 in place (76 percent) with 4 months left in the current 
fiscal year. The lack of a final basing decision has caused some 
individuals to turn down job offers, and the command has a 5 percent 
civilian attrition rate over the last 12 months due to people leaving 
for other positions in the Colorado Springs area.

    5. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, do you expect a USSPACECOM 
Headquarters basing move from Colorado Springs, Colorado to Huntsville, 
Alabama to pose a challenge to USSPACECOM's ability to effectively meet 
civilian workforce hiring needs?
    General Dickinson. Once a final decision is made, I anticipate no 
shortage of qualified civilian or contractor employees wherever the 
headquarters is based. If the decision is to relocate, then we will be 
smart and deliberate about the process to avoid the potential and/or 
mitigate the impact of an involuntary separation of civilian personnel.

    6. Senator Shaheen. General Dickinson, does the existing workforce 
in Huntsville have capabilities needed to support a basing Headquarters 
move?
    General Dickinson. I believe it does. Given the large science, 
technology, engineering, and math (STEM) base in Huntsville, I 
anticipate no shortage of qualified civilian or contractor employees in 
Huntsville.
                               __________
           Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth A. Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    7. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, do you agree that 
if funding is needed for a project, it should be a part of the command/
service budget?
    General Cotton. Yes. USSTRATCOM works with the Department of 
Defense (DOD) to identify priorities for inclusion into the annual 
budget process.
    General Dickinson. The President's Budget represents the highest 
Department of Defense (DOD) priorities and includes many of my own 
priorities. However, the need to fund critical investments in other 
domains meant several space priorities fell below the cutline, and it 
is my duty to communicate what space capabilities are delayed or at 
risk due to insufficient resourcing. Space currently represents a small 
fraction of the defense budget--easily overshadowed by the budgets of 
the other services, but all the services, our Allies, partners, and the 
civilian sector rely on space. This dependency is irreversible, and our 
adversaries are fully aware of this reliance on space. Space is 
critical to operations globally, demonstrated by the strong overlap 
with ADM Aquilino's U.S. Indo-Pacific Command UPL. These investments in 
space will also benefit our partners in Europe, Africa, the Middle 
East, and the Americas.

    8. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, historically, have 
previous UPL items been included in the following year's base budget? 
Have UPL items from fiscal year 2023 been included in the fiscal year 
2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail including the requested 
item, funding amount, and vendor executing the effort. If no, why not?
    General Cotton. USSTRATCOM did not submit a specific UPL item for 
fiscal year 2023.
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM's fiscal year 2023 UPL requests were 
included in the fiscal year 2024 base budget.
    Fiscal year 2023 UPL items included in fiscal year 2024 budget 
(executing vendors TBD): National Space Defense Center Service 
Responsibilities:
    fiscal year 2023 upl items included in fiscal year 2024 budget 
                        (executing vendors tbd):

                             National Space Defense Center Service Responsibilities:
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                       Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year
      APPN ($ K)         2023 UPL       2024         2025         2026         2027         2028         FYDP
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O&M                        $36,900      $14,872      $15,385      $15,897      $16,410      $17,436      $80,000
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                                 Consolidated Space Operation Facility Fit-out:
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                       Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year  Fiscal Year
      APPN ($ K)         2023 UPL       2024         2025         2026         2027         2028         FYDP
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O&M                        $19,200      $12,964      $12,610      $11,761      $11,136      $17,635      $66,106
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Proc                        $9,400      $26,994      $79,529      $28,017       $7,530       $2,547     $144,617
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    9. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, do you agree that 
Federal agencies have to make tough decisions in regards to their 
priorities and budget?
    General Cotton. Yes. However, changes in the strategic environment 
may drive emerging requirements outside of the normal budget cycle. In 
this case, the DOD would need to assess the requirement and determine 
if additional funding is required.
    General Dickinson. My ability to conduct operations in space are 
directly linked to the readiness of forces presented to USSPACECOM by 
the Service Chiefs and other agencies. We acknowledge Service and 
Agency Chiefs must balance manpower, facilities, and weapon systems 
readiness with fiscal responsibility. I commit to being a good steward 
of the forces presented to me and will execute my responsibilities in 
the space domain.

                          information on upls
    10. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what was the cost 
of putting together this wish list?
    General Cotton. The estimated cost of this report for the DOD is 
approximately $6,400 in DOD labor. The USSTRATCOM UPL was developed and 
submitted in accordance with existing law, and the anticipated workload 
is planned as part of our normal business operations and program 
prioritization process.
    General Dickinson. There were no additional costs to complete the 
USSPACECOM UPL beyond the personnel time devoted to this effort.

    For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in 
response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:

    11. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is the 
description of this UPL?
    General Cotton. USSTRATCOM submitted two unfunded priority items 
for fiscal year 2024 related to NC3: Enhanced Polar System--
Recapitalization (EPS-R) Strategic Capability and a classified program. 
Please see classified response for additional information.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    12. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what does the UPL 
purchase? (Include all end items with quantities, contractor FTEs, 
etc.)
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    13. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what specific 
capability will the UPL provide?
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    14. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what gap will 
this fill that is not in the base budget?
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    15. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, how will this 
capability support objectives outlined in current National Security, 
Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General Cotton. If funded, both USSTRATCOM UPL items will support 
NC3 modernization, which enhances strategic deterrence.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    16. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is the 
operational requirement? How does this UPL support current or future 
operations?
    General Cotton. The operational requirement is to provide assured 
command, control, and communications to nuclear forces. Both 
capabilities expand and modernize our ability to execute, terminate, 
and recall nuclear forces.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    17. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is the 
operational impact if this UPL is not funded in fiscal year 2024?
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    18. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, are there plans 
to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General Cotton. United States Space Force (USSF) and the United 
States Navy (USN) are responsible for funding these programs. Based on 
requirements, USSTRATCOM is aggressively advocating for these UPL item 
capabilities in their ongoing fiscal year 2025 budget discussions.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    19. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, why was this UPL 
not included in the fiscal year 2024 President's Budget submission?
    General Cotton. As the Commander of USSTRATCOM, it is my 
responsibility to set requirements for the capabilities we need; 
however, the Department must balance requirements across the joint 
force with finite resources. The final list of what is included in the 
fiscal year 2024 budget is ultimately determined by the President and 
is then transmitted to the Department via the Office of Management and 
Budget.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    20. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is the name 
of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General Cotton. As the Commander of USSTRATCOM, I have no 
acquisition authorities.
    Raytheon is the vendor that would support the EPS-R Strategic 
Capability. Defer to USSF for specific vendor questions.
    The classified UPL item is not yet a program of record and is 
currently managed by the USN. Defer to USN for specific vendor 
questions.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    21. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, how often has 
your command met with the vendor executing this effort?
    General Cotton. As the Commander of USSTRATCOM, I have no 
acquisition authorities. However, Command subject matter experts may 
attend program meetings sponsored by USSF related to the EPS-R 
Strategic Capability UPL item, at which vendor representatives may be 
present. Defer to USSF for additional information.
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM works with Program Offices for 
program information and does not meet directly with vendors to discuss 
programmatic details. Information on vendor relationships is provided 
from the perspective of the Program Office and is contained in the 
classified annex.

    22. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is your 
relationship history with this vendor?
    General Cotton. As the Commander of USSTRATCOM, I have no 
acquisition authorities. It is my responsibility to set requirements 
for the capabilities we need; however, I depend on the Services to 
execute acquisition authorities to deliver these capabilities.
    Over the course of my career, I have likely interacted with 
Raytheon or its subsidiaries on a number of DOD programs as part of my 
official duties. As the Commander of USSTRATCOM, I have not had any 
relationship with Raytheon regarding EPS-R Strategic Capability.
    The classified UPL item is not yet a program of record and is 
currently managed by the USN. Defer to USN for specific vendor 
questions.
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM works with Program Offices for 
program information and does not meet directly with vendors to discuss 
programmatic details. Information on vendor relationships is provided 
from the perspective of the Program Office and is contained in the 
classified annex.

    23. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, has anyone who 
formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in meetings? 
What is their name, what was their position, and when did you meet with 
them?
    General Cotton. USSTRATCOM does not formally track whether anyone 
who
formerly worked for the Command has represented a vendor in meetings 
related to EPS-R Strategic Capability conducted by program offices that 
are not part of USSTRATCOM. To date, we have not received inquiries 
from a contracting officer within the program offices noting concerns 
related to the representational activities of former USSTRATCOM 
personnel in the context of the EPS-R Strategic Capability. USSTRATCOM 
has a robust ethics training program to help current and departing 
employees understand post-government employment rules, financial 
conflicts of interests, and rules regarding meetings with industry. 
USSTRATCOM attorneys routinely provide ethics counsel to current and 
former employees about these matters.
    The classified UPL item is not yet a program of record and is 
currently managed by the USN. Defer to USN for specific vendor 
questions.
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM works with Program Offices for 
program information and does not meet directly with vendors to discuss 
programmatic details. Information on vendor relationships is provided 
from the perspective of the Program Office and is contained in the 
classified annex.

    24. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, in which city/
State will the UPL be executed?
    General Cotton. Defer to the USSF and USN.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    25. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    General Cotton. Defer to the USSF and USN.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    26. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what is the 
anticipated contract award date if the UPL receives funding?
    General Cotton. Defer to the USSF and USN.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    27. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, what funding 
lines are associated with this UPL?
    General Cotton. The research, development, testing, and evaluation 
(RDT&E) funding line for EPS-R Strategic Capability is 1206432SF.
    For the classified UPL item, there are two funding lines: (1) RDT&E 
line 0604280N and (2) Other Procurement, Navy funding lines 0742 and 
3130.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    28. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded 
simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each appropriation 
stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    General Cotton. All appropriations must be funded simultaneously to 
complete the capability.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    29. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, how much was 
enacted and obligated (or expended for RDT&E) in fiscal year 2022 to 
2023 for this requirement?
    General Cotton. Defer to the USSF and USN.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    30. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, how much was 
requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General Cotton. The USSTRATCOM fiscal year 2024 UPL requested $17.9 
million for EPS-R Strategic Capability, and $28.3 million for the 
classified item.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    31. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, is there a tail 
associated with this UPL?
    General Cotton. Yes.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    32. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, is any tail 
funded in the future years defense plan?
    General Cotton. No.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    33. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, please describe 
how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 years.
    General Cotton. Please see table below.

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                                                                                                    Fiscal Year
                          Fiscal Year    Fiscal Year    Fiscal Year    Fiscal Year    Fiscal Year   Defense Plan
      Program Name          2024  ($       2025  ($       2026  ($       2027  ($      2028  ($      Total  ($
                           millions)      millions)      millions)      millions)      millions)     millions)
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EPS-R Strategic          $17.9           $33.3          $21.9           $7.4           $0.0         $80.5
 Capability
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Classified Item          $28.3          $119.7         $140.1         $146.1         $135.6        $569.8
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    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    34. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, please provide in 
detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this requirement, 
including if it was in the base budget or UPL.
    General Cotton. USSTRATCOM has not submitted either item in a 
previous UPL request. Defer to the USSF and USN for base budget 
details.
    EPS-R Strategic Capability UPL item request leverages an existing 
program. No previous budget--request exists for this particular UPL 
item issue. Please see classified response for additional information.
    The fiscal year 2023 budget provided $20.0 million in RDT&E funding 
to develop and test the classified UPL item.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    35. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, if the 
requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will that 
be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General Cotton. This will be determined during future DOD budget 
deliberations.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]

    36. Senator Warren. General Cotton and Dickinson, please provide 
photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    General Cotton. EPS-R Strategic Capability
    
    
    No picture available for the classified UPL item.
    General Dickinson. [Deleted.]
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin III
                        artificial intelligence
    37. Senator Manchin. General Cotton, how are novel technologies 
like artificial intelligence, unmanned systems, hypersonic, cyber, and 
space-related systems changing the worldwide nuclear risk environment? 
How is the growing prevalence of these technologies affect U.S. nuclear 
strategy, deterrence, and R&D?
    General Cotton. Novel technologies challenge our traditional 
warning paradigms, constrain our decision space, and present a risk of 
strategic surprise. Our adversaries are making large investments in 
these areas because they know that it can create unique challenges for 
the United States and its Allies. As the ubiquity of data and speed of 
decisionmaking continue to increase, Allies and adversaries alike could 
feel pressure to delegate key decisionmaking functions to machines, 
which could produce unpredictable results if systems are not 
appropriately designed, tested, and used. An adversary who devises an 
unanticipated means of threatening our strategic capabilities or our 
homeland may lose its incentive for restraint and become emboldened to 
act in a future crisis or conflict. While the risk of miscalculation 
has been a concern of strategic conflict since the beginning of the 
nuclear age, the rapid evolution and application of novel technologies 
over the coming decades could increase that risk. DOD has been a leader 
in trying to ensure novel technologies do not undermine strategic 
stability. For example, in February the United States announced a 
Political Declaration on the Responsible Use of Artificial Intelligence 
in the Military Domain that creates strong norms surrounding the 
development and use of AI and autonomy in all military systems. It 
reiterates the commitment we publicized in our Nuclear Posture Review 
to have a human ``in the loop'' for all actions critical to informing 
and executing decisions by the President to initiate and terminate 
nuclear weapon employment.
    The fundamentals of deterrence have not changed, and our tailored 
approach remains sound. We will deter though safe, secure, and 
effective nuclear forces enabling country-specific strategies and 
plans, extended deterrence commitments, and an integrated deterrence 
approach incorporating suitable non-nuclear capabilities tailored to 
specific threat scenarios.
    As our Allies and adversaries invest in these novel technologies, 
so must we. The National Defense Strategy states the Department will 
support innovation and fuel R&D for advanced capabilities, such as 
directed energy, hypersonics, and cyber, as well as seed opportunities 
to include biotechnology, quantum science, and advanced materials. DOD 
will follow market forces driving military-relevant capabilities (e.g., 
artificial intelligence, microelectronics, space) and continue to 
develop operational models that expand U.S. options and constrain those 
of potential adversaries. Furthermore, the Department will explore 
employment concepts, integrate new technologies, experiment with 
creative applications, and share, as appropriate, asymmetric 
capabilities with Allies and partners.
              foreign intelligence surveillance act (fisa)
    38. Senator Manchin. General Dickinson, I understand that SPACECOM 
is developing a series of contingency plans for protecting the U.S. and 
allied satellites and tasking the intelligence community for an 
increased emphasis on foreign space intentions, especially by Russia 
and China. This year, Title VII of the Foreign Intelligence 
Surveillance Act (FISA) will be up for reauthorization. Title VII 
established procedures governing the targeting, for intelligence-
gathering purposes-of non-U.S. persons located abroad. They also 
established statutory and procedural protections regarding surveillance 
of U.S. persons located outside the United States. What impact would a 
failure to reauthorize Title VII have in SPACECOM's collection 
requirements for the IC on collection against foreign space intentions?
    General Dickinson. Section 702 allows the Intelligence community to 
collect the communications of many of our most critical foreign 
intelligence targets located outside of the United States who use U.S. 
infrastructure and services to communicate. It has helped us to 
understand the strategic intentions of the foreign governments we are 
most interested in, like the People's Republic of China, Russia, Iran, 
and North Korea. This authority is vital to keeping the Nation safe and 
I urge Congress to re-authorize Section 702 prior to it lapsing this 
coming December.

    39. Senator Manchin. General Cotton, it is my understanding that 
China's nuclear force, while still smaller in size compared to the 
U.S., is modernizing and expanding faster than any other country. Also, 
China appears to be pursuing other potentially destabilizing systems, 
such as a nuclear-capable hypersonic fractional orbital bombardment 
capability. What role does intelligence play in helping us understand 
China's capabilities and how does Title VII play a role in enabling us 
to closely assess China's nuclear force structure and posture?
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]
                         space domain awareness
    40. Senator Manchin. General Dickinson, you mentioned utilizing 
civilian assets for space domain awareness. Can you confirm SPACECOM is 
utilizing the Green Bank Telescope for this purpose, and if so how has 
this asset performed for so far?
    General Dickinson. USSPACECOM has used the Green Bank Telescope to 
support space tracking efforts. A contract is not currently in place 
for further use; however, the Telescope has proven valuable to the 
space domain awareness mission. The command is in contact with the 
Green Bank Telescope for future space tracking discussions.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky S. Rosen
                         stem outreach programs
    41. Senator Rosen. General Cotton and General Dickinson, what are 
STRATCOM and SPACECOM's current STEM outreach efforts, particularly in 
cybersecurity, and how do you plan to grow them to keep up with the 
defense workforce needs of the future?
    General Cotton. STEM talent is in high demand across the country. 
My human capital team leads several initiatives to include innovative 
hiring practices and a robust intern program to attract talent for our 
important mission. USSTRATCOM is considering adopting Cyber Excepted 
Service, a personnel framework that allows added flexibility in hiring 
and compensation to attract and retain top cyber talent. Similarly, we 
have a legislative proposal to obtain Acquisition Demo authority. If 
approved, this authority would provide simplified job classification, 
streamlined hiring processes, and pay flexibilities. Our Joint Warfare 
Analysis Center uses its designation as a ``lab demo'' to compete for 
talent in the National Capital Region with pay flexibility, a 
laboratory bonus program, and expedited hiring practices that reduce 
hiring times by 84 percent.
    Not only does USSTRATCOM compete for proven talent, we expanded our 
STEM opportunities for college students through multiple internship 
programs. Several of our previous internships have led to full-time 
positions for young, innovative talent, giving us the opportunity to 
grow top talent from the ground up.
    From an outreach perspective, my technology leaders have pushed 
hard to highlight the important work we're doing and the need for 
industry and academia to be a part of our future success. We published 
our science and technology top issues to academia, national 
laboratories, and industry, leading to a highly productive industry day 
with some of the top minds in the business looking for innovative 
solutions to our toughest challenges. Through the Services, we pursue 
opportunities to advance the use of artificial intelligence and machine 
learning to accelerate our ability to analyze the risk of strategic 
deterrence failure and more quickly leverage changes in adversary force 
posture. We continue to seek methods to improve our decision advantage 
through cutting-edge technologies and a talented workforce that can 
lead the way.
    We have a collaborative relationship with a number of research 
entities comprised of universities, federally funded research and 
development centers, and national laboratories through the Department 
of Energy. As an example, we work with the University of Nebraska to 
identify innovative possibilities that can accelerate advancements in 
NC3 and cybersecurity. Through my strategic engagement process, I 
personally support inspiring the next generation of strategic force 
leaders who will need strong STEM skills to oversee modernization of 
the Triad, and my staff is active in many off-base organizations that 
promote STEM.
    General Dickinson. People are the most important part of any 
organization, and we are recruiting from the broadest talent pool 
available to enable the strategic advantages derived from diversity of 
thought and perspective. Our command partnering with National Security 
Space Institute, U.S. Space Force's Space Training and Readiness 
Command, and other space training stakeholders. These partnerships help 
develop a Command Cyber Workforce training pipeline in accordance with 
DOD Manual 8140.03 Cyberspace Workforce Qualification and Management 
Program guidance. Similarly, my team recently stood up USSPACECOM's 
Academic Engagement Enterprise, akin to U.S. Cyber Command's Academic 
Engagement Network, this enterprise will enhance workforce 
professionalization through participation in space and STEM academic 
programs and increase space applied research and innovation through 
university partnerships. To date we have 20 member institutions, 
including Tier-1 research universities like the University of Arizona, 
the University of Colorado-Boulder, Georgia Tech, and Purdue 
University.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Mark E. Kelly
  space-qualified traveling wave tubes (twts) and traveling wave tube 
                           amplifiers (twtas)
    42. Senator Kelly. General Dickinson, the Administration's ``Space 
Priorities Framework'' set a strategic goal of making sure our domestic 
space industrial base is secure by strengthening the supply chains it 
supports. Over the last few years, the DOD has found that the U.S. 
domestic industrial base for a key satellite component is insufficient. 
Those components are called space-qualified Traveling Wave Tubes (TWTs) 
and Traveling Wave Tube Amplifiers (TWTAs). They are highly engineered 
components and are critical to many essential national security, 
civilian, and game-changing commercial satellites. While China has 
greatly expanded its ability to produce these components, in the West 
only two companies produce them. One is a small American company, and 
the other is a much larger foreign provider that is heavily subsidized 
by its government. This prevents the American company from competing 
for opportunities, and impedes the development of a broader United 
States domestic industrial base for these components--creating supply 
chain risk. Last year, to help establish a globally competitive U.S. 
domestic source for next-generation, space-qualified tubes and 
amplifiers, I introduced an amendment to the NDAA that would leverage 
the National Technology & Industrial Base (NTIB)--a construct that 
Congress developed precisely for reasons like this. Despite support 
from the Defense Department, process hurdles prevented us from adopting 
it. Do you agree that establishing a globally competitive U.S. domestic 
source for next-generation, high-powered, space-qualified traveling 
wave tubes and amplifiers is necessary for the DOD to obtain these 
critical components at high quality, on time, and at a reasonable 
price?
    General Dickinson. Obtaining high quality critical space components 
on time is necessary to maintaining a resilient space architecture. 
Whether critical components are sourced domestically or through our 
closely aligned Allies and partners, timely and affordable acquisition 
is essential to the development and integration of space capabilities. 
While domestically sourced components can reduce both timelines and 
costs, expanding critical component access by leveraging our 
international Allies also adds to our Nation's supply chain resiliency.

    43. Senator Kelly. General Dickinson-do you agree Congress can be a 
partner in supporting DOD's access to a strong supply chain?
    General Dickinson. Supply chain strength and security are critical 
pieces of ensuring the resilience of future space architectures. We 
support all efforts by Congress and the services in acquiring those 
capabilities and working with industry to ensure the security of our 
supply chain. The ingenuity of America's space industry is one of our 
greatest strengths, and we should take the necessary steps to secure 
it.
                       space force national guard
    44. Senator Kelly. General Dickinson, how many Air National Guard 
Space Professionals are currently deployed or on a status supporting 
Combatant Command Requirements?
    General Dickinson. There are 34 Air National Guard members on long-
term Active Duty for Operational Support (ADOS) orders with 
Headquarters, USSPACECOM, 16 of whom are Space Professionals. 
USSPACECOM currently employs 109 total Guard and Reserve Joint 
servicemembers on ADOS orders to effectively meet the command's 
requirements. The Air National Guard has 11 organizations with a total 
of 729 authorizations performing mission support for USSPACECOM. 
Currently, there are 17 Space Professional Guardsmen deployed overseas 
in direct support of USSPACECOM missions.

    45. Senator Kelly. General Dickinson, what would be the mission 
impacts if you did not have Air National Guard Space Professionals 
supporting Combatant Command Requirements?
    General Dickinson. Active, Guard, and Reserve components bring 
important capabilities to bear in defense of the Nation. All USSPACECOM 
missions are inherently Federal missions, so forces presented to us 
come to us as Title 10 forces. From my perspective as the commander 
operationally employing those forces, it is transparent to me whether 
any particular servicemember comes to us as an Active Duty member, as a 
Title 10 reservist, or as a Guardsman mobilized to Title 10. At 
USSPACECOM, they are all Title 10 space professionals. I defer to the 
services and the department on how best they organize the components 
that present forces to USSPACECOM.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Joni K. Ernst
                           deterrence posture
    46. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in a post-New START environment, 
should the United States prepare to upload its non-deployed nuclear 
weapons to shore up deterrence? Please provide an unclassified answer 
to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified answer 
if necessary.
    General Cotton. The 2022 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) recognizes 
that, depending on the security environment, changes in U.S. strategy 
and force posture may be required to sustain the ability to achieve 
deterrence, assurance, and employment objectives. As the strategic 
environment changes, we must continue to reexamine our strategy and 
force posture to ensure the Triad and related capabilities are 
appropriately configured.
    We must sustain and modernize the Triad, NC3, and infrastructure 
(to include our forward-deployed stockpile and North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization dual-capable aircraft). We must maintain a viable, 
flexible, and full-spectrum strategic deterrent that paces the threat 
and is able to respond to changes in the security environment.

    47. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, how quickly can the United 
States upload each leg of the Triad? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified 
answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. [Deleted.]

    48. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, are there policies or 
regulations related to how quickly the United States can upload each 
leg of the Triad? Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent 
possible; please provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. The 2022 NPR states that while we retain the 
capability to upload a portion of the ICBM force, we continue to 
configure these missiles with only one warhead day-to-day. The NPR also 
affirms that we will field and maintain strategic nuclear delivery 
systems and deployed weapons in compliance with New START. Beyond this, 
there are no policies or regulations limiting our ability to upload 
weapons on any leg of the Triad, as long as the aggregate totals do not 
exceed the New START central limits.

    49. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, in 
general, would placing a portion of the bomber force in heightened 
alert statuses increase its flexibility? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified 
answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. Absent a crisis or conflict, no. The cost of 
placing a portion of the bomber force into a heightened alert status 
decreases overall readiness with marginal increase in responsiveness/
survivability. Any long-term heightened alert status would drive 
significant costs, stretching the maintenance force and air crews to 
unsustainable limits. Additionally, based on the current force 
structure, ongoing modernization efforts, and the integrated deterrence 
strategy of the United States, placing bombers on alert would actually 
decrease overall flexibility as it limits my ability to support other 
operations across the spectrum of competition. The Department, in 
conjunction with the intelligence community, will continue to fully 
exploit the indications and warning network to ensure the Nation can 
flex and respond to any crisis in a timely and decisively manner.
    Please see classified response for additional information.

    50. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your verbal testimony, you 
said you could increase the bomber force's flexibility without 
adjusting alert statuses; what other measures would you use to increase 
the flexibility of the bomber force? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified 
answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. Measures to increase the flexibility of the bomber 
force without adjusting alert status include: increasing the number of 
B-2 and B-52 crews to increase operational flexibility; increasing the 
number of available tankers; and increasing forward-based maintenance 
capability to support persistent and episodic global presence while 
retaining the ability to increase nuclear readiness.

    51. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, in 
general, would forward stationing dual capable aircraft increase the 
flexibility of the nuclear deterrent? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified 
answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. These actions could offer an increase in 
flexibility. More detailed research across multiple departments is 
necessary to weigh the gains in flexibility against impacts to 
strategic stability and financial costs to the DOD (in aircraft, 
required supporting infrastructure, etc.).

    52. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, in 
general, would moving some of the ICBM force to mobile platforms 
increase survivability? Please provide an unclassified answer to the 
extent possible; please provide an additional classified answer if 
necessary.
    General Cotton. This type of analysis was conducted previously and 
resulted in a decision to pursue the silo-based Sentinel system.
    However, a mobile capability could potentially increase ICBM 
survivability. We must take a holistic perspective regarding how the 
survivability of the system may evolve over its lifetime and then 
balance those findings against the operational concept and associated 
costs to make an informed decision.

    53. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, in 
general, would deploying SLCM-N expand our at-sea deterrent? Please 
provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide 
an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. A low-yield, non-ballistic nuclear capability to 
deter, assure, and respond without visible generation (similar to the 
characteristics of SLCM-N) offers additional options and supports an 
integrated deterrence approach. It is one of several possible nuclear 
or conventional capabilities the U.S. could develop to enhance 
strategic deterrence. I support funding to assess the full range of 
possible options to address this challenge in a rapidly changing 
security environment with the backdrop of multiple nuclear adversaries.

    54. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, in 
general, would deploying ground-based, theater-range nuclear forces 
bolster our deterrent? Please provide an unclassified answer to the 
extent possible; please provide an additional classified answer if 
necessary.
    General Cotton. I am currently satisfied with U.S. strategy and 
capabilities with respect to forward-deployed nuclear forces on Allied 
territory. As the strategic environment changes, we must continue to 
reexamine our strategy and force posture to ensure the Triad and 
related capabilities are appropriately configured.

    55. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, in your personal opinion, would 
you recommend retaining the B83, at least until identifying a 
capability that meets requirements for hard and deeply buried targets?
    General Cotton. I support retaining the B83-1 as stipulated in the 
Fiscal Year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) until a 
suitable replacement capability for defeating hard and deeply buried 
targets (HDBTs) can be identified. We can maintain the B83-1 for a few 
years; however, when the B-2 retires, it will no longer have a delivery 
platform. My staff is participating in the Department's response to the 
Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA mandated HDBT study, which will examine the full 
range of capabilities required to counter HDBTs. We look forward to the 
results.
                                 sclm-n
    56. Senator Ernst. General Cotton, the 2018 NPR started an Analysis 
of Alternatives for the SLCM-N. Could you describe that analysis and 
whether any alternatives fit military requirements better than SLMC-N? 
Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please 
provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Cotton. The Navy completed an Analysis of Alternatives 
(AOA) and the Office of Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation 
determined the AOA was sufficient. I support any option that provides a 
low-yield, non-ballistic nuclear capability to deter, assure, and 
respond without visible generation.
    Defer to the Navy for specific outcomes related to the SLCM-N AOA.
                              space policy
    57. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, what are the current policies 
in place to identify what behaviors and actions in space constitute an 
act of war? Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent 
possible; please provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Dickinson. The issue of what constitutes an ``act of war'' 
in space is governed by international law, just as it is in every 
domain. Like cyberspace, space is a newly contested domain with few 
historical examples available to make such determinations. Article 2(4) 
of the United Nations Charter prohibits the use or threat of force 
against territorial integrity and political independence, except under 
certain circumstances like self-defense under Article 51 of the 
Charter. In the space domain, determinations of what constitutes an 
unlawful use of force can be difficult. This is primarily due to the 
unique nature of the space domain and associated challenges in 
developing situational awareness to identify actions and discern 
intent.
    USSPACECOM is an active participant in supporting the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Space Policy and Department of State in 
establishing norms of responsible behaviors in Space. While not legally 
binding as rules under international law, the Secretary of Defense's 
Tenets of Responsible Behavior in Space and the recently released 
Tenet-Derived Responsible Behaviors are designed to help mitigate the 
risk of miscalculation and improve communication and predictability. 
pace-faring nations could help to ensure the safety, security, and 
sustainability of the space domain.

    58. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, how can the United States 
improve policies to address behaviors and actions in space to determine 
acts of war?
    General Dickinson. First and foremost, adherence to the rule of law 
in outer space is paramount. The existing legal framework, notably, the 
Outer Space Treaty and the United Nations Charter, govern space-faring 
nations' activities in outer space and prohibit the unlawful use of 
force. The recently issued Department of Defense Tenets of Responsible 
Behavior for Outer Space and the United States' commitment to not 
conduct destructive direct ascent anti-satellite missile tests will 
help with determinations of acts of war in space.
    USSPACECOM is working closely with the office of the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Space Policy to develop meaningful policy 
recommendations that support the establishment of norms and responsible 
behaviors, ensure the National Space Policy imperative to preserve 
space for peaceful use, and allow for flexible military employment 
within the domain, when necessary.
                         capability revelation
    59. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, what is the framework by 
which the Department of Defense evaluates U.S. national security space 
capability revelations for deterrence?
    General Dickinson. The DOD or Administration determine the policy 
for when the United States reveals capabilities, including national 
security space capabilities, to deter our competitors.
    USSPACECOM implements those policies at the right time and place to 
achieve strategic objectives.

    60. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, what is the process by which 
USSPACECOM executes declassification of certain U.S.
    General Dickinson. When the DOD or Administration make a policy 
decision to reveal a national security space capability, USSPACECOM 
will work with the original classification authority for the specified 
capability to declassify the information necessary to achieve the 
strategic objectives.

    61. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, where does the decision 
authority rest for declassification or revelation of certain U.S. 
national security space capabilities for deterrence?
    General Dickinson. The decision to reveal a certain U.S. national 
security space capability is a policy question and rests with the DOD 
or Administration. The decision to classify or declassify information 
related to the capabilities of a national security space asset rests 
with the original classification authority.

    62. Senator Ernst. General Dickinson, how can the United States 
improve the declassification and revelation of certain U.S. national 
security space capabilities to deter aggressive adversary behavior?
    General Dickinson. As stated previously, the overall decision to 
reveal national security space capabilities rests with the DOD or 
Administration. The DOD and Administration synchronize these decisions 
with other strategic level choices to achieve deterrence and national 
goals.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Dan S. Sullivan
                                 b-52j
    63. Senator Sullivan. General Cotton, what new capabilities will 
the Commercial Engine Replacement Program bring to the B-521 platform?
    General Cotton. The Commercial Engine Replacement Program (CERP) 
engines will provide increased range, more endurance, approximately 30 
percent better fuel efficiency, and will require far fewer maintenance 
hours. Along with new engines, CERP will replace associated subsystems, 
such as engine struts and nacelles, the electrical power generation 
system, and cockpit displays.

    64. Senator Sullivan. General Cotton, will the B-521 be able to 
employ the entire Air Force inventory of anti-ship missiles?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Air Force for specifics on ordnance 
load-out.
             chinese nuclear-capable bombers and submarines
    65. Senator Sullivan. General Cotton, how are the PRC's investments 
in nuclear capable bombers and ballistic missile submarines impacting 
your approach to deterrence?
    General Cotton. Per the NPR, our tailored strategy for China is 
that the United States will maintain a flexible deterrence strategy and 
force posture that continues to clearly convey to the People's Republic 
of China (PRC) that the United States will not be deterred from 
defending our Allies and partners, or coerced into terminating a 
conflict on unacceptable terms. We are addressing this challenge 
through integrated deterrence--which spans all domains and capabilities 
backstopped by a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent.
    This approach necessitates the modernization and sustainment of our 
nuclear forces, NC3, and weapons infrastructure, and this remains the 
Department's highest priority. The programmed modernization efforts are 
the minimum necessary to meet the Nation's global security challenges. 
Further, without proper sustainment of our legacy systems throughout 
the modernization period, our nuclear deterrent will degrade.
                        b-2 retirement timeline
    66. Senator Sullivan. General Cotton, is B-2 retirement tied to the 
complete delivery of the B-21 order?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Air Force on planning for the B-2 
retirement.

    67. Senator Sullivan. General Cotton, if B-2 retirement is not tied 
to the complete delivery of the B-21 order, how may B-21s will be 
operational when the last B-2 is retired?
    General Cotton. Defer to the Air Force on planning on B-2 to B-21 
transition milestones.
              spacecom detection and tracking capabilities
    68. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, how are SPACECOM's 
detection and tracking capabilities changing to keep pace with 
adversary threats?
    General Dickinson. My number one operational priority is enhancing 
existing and advocating for new Space Domain Awareness capabilities 
allowing us to assess activities across the space domain. We are 
working through the Department's requirements processes to communicate 
our unique space domain awareness requirements that will allow us to 
monitor potential threats and provide the necessary time to take 
actions that protect our critical space assets. A key part of our 
strategy is working very closely with industry partners who are 
developing space domain awareness capabilities and leveraging their 
investments.

    69. Senator Sullivan. General Dickinson, how can SPACECOM assets to 
identify objects, determine if they are threats like cruise or 
hypersonic missiles, and hedge against Chinese attempts to confuse 
ground-based missile defense radars?
    General Dickinson. Space Domain Awareness is my highest priority, 
and we have taken dramatic steps to improve our understanding of the 
domain and guard against advanced threats.
    USSPACECOM is designated as the Global Sensor Manager for the DOD. 
In that role, we synchronize and prioritize sensors like space-based 
satellites and ground-based radars assigned to the command. To improve 
our coverage of advanced threats like cruise or hypersonic missiles, 
USSPACECOM developed a strategy to integrate non-traditional sensors, 
such as theater missile defense radars (e.g., AN/TPY-2), sea-based X-
band radars, and Aegis afloat capabilities. Proliferating information 
sources and fusing those together cohesively is part of that strategy 
to provide timely, accurate, and decision quality information to the 
chain of command.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 16, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

     UNITED STATES CENTRAL COMMAND AND UNITED STATES AFRICA COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:29 a.m., in 
room G-50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shahee, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, 
Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order. Good 
morning, and the Committee meets today to receive testimony 
from General Michael Eric Kurilla, Commander of the United 
States Central Command (CENTCOM), and General Michael Langley, 
Commander of United States Africa Command (AFRICOM).
    Thank you both for your service, and I am grateful to the 
men and women serving under your command. While CENTCOM has 
many responsibilities, the top priority remains deterring the 
Iranian regime's destructive and destabilizing activities 
without undue provocation. This is a complicated and urgent 
mission.
    Iran is conducting malign activities across multiple 
arenas, including continuing its own nuclear development, 
launching drone and missile attacks on neighboring States, 
supporting proxy groups, violently repressing its own citizens, 
and deepening a military alliance with Russia, and these 
threats are likely to increase.
    In an unexpected turn, last week, Saudi Arabia and Iran 
announced they have restored diplomatic relations in a deal 
brokered by China. Press reports indicate the key parts of the 
agreement were a commitment by Iran to stop further attacks on 
Saudi Arabia and cut back on support for Iranian linked groups 
that have targeted the kingdom.
    The two nations plan to reopen their embassies and 
reimplement a security pact to cooperate on several issues to 
benefit their mutual national security. As The New York Times 
stated, the deal is, ``a shift that left heads spinning in 
capitals around the globe.''
    General Kurilla, given the unpredictability of the Iranian 
regime, I would like your thoughts on how best to respond to 
its malign behavior in the region, taking into account the new 
dynamic of their restoration of relations with Saudi Arabia. 
What opportunities do we have to collaborate with our allies 
and partners to counter drone and missile attacks, and how can 
we address Iran's closer alignment with Russia and China?
    Turning to Afghanistan, although we have transitioned all 
forces out of the country, the Biden administration has 
maintained its commitment to ensuring that Afghanistan cannot 
be used as a base for ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria], 
al Qaeda, or other terrorist groups to conduct attacks against 
the United States or its allies.
    I would ask for an update on our posture and capabilities, 
and whether additional regional agreements have been reached to 
ensure we maintain a robust regional counterterrorism 
architecture to address the threat from these groups. General 
Langley, AFRICOM's area of responsibility (AOR) is becoming 
increasingly important in the United States strategic 
competition with China and Russia.
    Many African countries have longstanding military ties with 
Russia and even deeper economic ties with China. As the United 
States manages relationships across the continent, we must be 
mindful of these preexisting ties and avoid taking a with us or 
against us approach, or we will risk alienating the very 
nations we seek to engage with.
    I would welcome your thoughts on how best to calibrate the 
U.S. approach to strategic competition in light of these 
factors. The security situation in East Africa remains 
dangerously unstable. Since last fall, roughly 500 United 
States servicemembers have been redeployed to Somalia to 
support the Somali Government's fight against Al-Shabaab, one 
of al Qaeda's most powerful global affiliates.
    Our renewed presence is an effort to stabilize the Somali 
Government and train their forces, after our departure in 
December 2020 allowed Al-Shabaab to grow in size and strength. 
I hope you will share your views on the status of our 
engagement with Somali partners and the whole-of-government 
strategy to ensure battlefield successes can be effectively 
translated into longer term gains.
    Finally, the security situation in West Africa also 
continues to decline. Violent extremist operations have 
expanded across the Sahel, including pushing down into littoral 
states in the Gulf of Guinea. At the same time, Russia and 
China are seeking to increase their engagement in this region.
    The Wagner Group continues to seek opportunities to exploit 
instability in the region, and China has made no secret about 
exploring basing operations on the West African coast. Both 
countries are also investing in natural resource extraction 
across the continent, often at great expense to the long-term 
health of African partners' ecosystems and economies.
    Given these challenges, General Langley, I would like to 
hear how AFRICOM is seeking to engage with partners in Africa 
to expose these harmful and manipulative practices. I want to 
thank you again and look forward to your testimony.
    As a reminder for my colleagues, there will be a closed 
session immediately following this hearing and room SVC-217. 
Now, let me turn to the Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
thank our witnesses for being here. In recent weeks, the 
Committee has heard from top military and civilian leaders 
about the significant security challenges facing our Nation.
    Our top adversaries, including China and Russia, are 
testing American resolve, not just in East Asia and Europe, but 
also across the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa. In the 
Middle East, Russia and Iran grow closer. Recently, Iran agreed 
to purchase 24 advanced Su-35 fighter jets. Today, Russia is 
deploying Iranian drones to kill Ukrainians.
    Meanwhile, China works to displace the United States as the 
partner of choice for many of our longtime friends in the 
region. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) offers more 
streamlined arms sales and Huawei 5G networks that would 
undermine our operational security in the Middle East. In 
Africa, the Russian mercenary group Wagner does--Wagner does 
Putin's bidding.
    They sow instability across the continent by supporting 
coups and spreading lies. They use exploitative practices to 
get critical minerals. They pressure African governments to 
move away from the West. At the same time, China is using 
economic coercion to gain leverage and expand its military 
footprint in the basing, something former AFRICOM Commander 
General Steven Townsend called his number one global power 
competition concern.
    We are right to focus on the growing Russia and Chinese 
threats, but we cannot take our eyes off the other security 
challenges coming from the Middle East, South Asia, and Africa. 
In Afghanistan, the disastrous withdrawal of United States 
troops nearly 2 years ago left a security vacuum the Taliban, 
al Qaeda and ISIS have filled.
    The Biden administration assured us that the Department of 
Defense (DOD) would conduct counterterrorism operations in 
Afghanistan even without a limited number of United States 
troops on the ground, but the United States has only conducted 
one strike in more than a year. The withdrawal from Afghanistan 
emboldened ISIS and al Qaeda's affiliates around the world, not 
just in Afghanistan.
    The terrorist threat is real and growing. As a result of 
the Biden Administration's policies, the world's number one 
State sponsor of terrorism, Iran, presents an increasing threat 
to our personnel and partners in the region.
    President Biden should have focused on countering Iran's 
missile program and its support for terrorism. Instead, he 
focused on returning to the flawed 2015 nuclear agreement. In 
the process, this Administration has given them practically 
everything and got absolutely nothing.
    According to the Department of Defense, Iran could now 
produce enough fissile material for a bomb within just 12 days, 
and its proxies are on the march nationwide. These facts make 
it clear continued significant real growth in the defense 
budget top line above inflation remains essential to our 
national security.
    I will be looking closely to ensure our security assistance 
funding remains strong in these theaters and that our 
counterterrorism and contingency forces are fully resourced. 
This includes additional force protection measures in both 
theaters, particularly to protect against more complex Iranian 
backed attacks.
    I would also note that the budget zeroing out of LPD [low 
probability of detection] amphibious ships is the exact wrong 
move, when we did not even have the capacity to send one 
amphibious ship to Turkey to help with their earthquake. 
Finally, I am interested in how the Office of Strategic Capital 
might be leveraged to push back against the CCP in these 
theaters and elsewhere as they seek to buy ports and raw 
materials across the globe.
    I thank our witnesses and look forward to their testimony. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. General 
Kurilla, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL MICHAEL E. KURILLA, USA COMMANDER, UNITED 
                     STATES CENTRAL COMMAND

    General Kurilla. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
ladies and gentlemen of the Committee, I am joined today by 
Command Master Chief Derrick Walters, the Command Senior 
Enlisted Leader of U.S. Central Command.
    On behalf of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, coast 
guardsmen, and guardians who serve this Command, the Central 
Region, and this Nation every day, thank you for allowing me to 
testify regarding the posture of U.S. Central Command, 
alongside my ranger buddy, Mike Langley.
    CENTCOM serves as the security integrator for an area of 
responsibility that encompasses 21 nations, almost 600 million 
people, and serves as the strategic nexus of the world's most 
important corridors of trade. I am now 11 months into command.
    In that time, I have made 14 trips to the region, and those 
visits have allowed me first person insights that have informed 
my strategic approach, which is best summarized in three words, 
people, partners, and innovation.
    People are our greatest asset and our most critical 
resource. Our servicemembers and civilians in the United States 
and across the region are our Nation's best. I know this body 
keeps them top of mind that right now in the CENTCOM region, 
thousands of troops are in harm's way.
    Our people who are closest to the problem understand the 
opportunities available to solve the region's most complex 
challenges. That is why we rely so heavily on our partners. Our 
partners are the Nations comparative advantage against 
competitors like China and Russia.
    Across CENTCOM, we cultivate deep abiding partnerships that 
can serve as a hedge against the threats in the region, while 
deterring Iran from its most destructive behavior. We have the 
kind of relationships that elicit candid, sometimes tough, 
conversations that result in solutions. These kind of 
relationships make us the partner of choice in the region.
    A critical component of that partnership is innovation, 
innovation of thought, innovation of process, innovation of 
concept and technology extends the value of the partnerships. 
Innovation allows us to move faster, operate more efficiently, 
and increase progress across all operational efforts.
    This is more important now than any time in our history. 
Forty years ago, the Department of Defense established CENTCOM 
to counter the malign influence of a revolutionary regime that 
seized power in Tehran and to compete with a great power in the 
region, the Soviet Union. The organization's charter, directed 
by this body, was to direct and enable military operations and 
activities with allies and partners to increase regional 
stability in support of enduring U.S. interests.
    That mission remains essentially unchanged to this day. 
Iran still remains the focus. We now battle violent extremist 
groups who threaten the region and beyond. The Soviet Union has 
been replaced with China and Russia as strategic competitors. 
With these challenges, the CENTCOM region holds the greatest 
risk of derailing the National Defense Strategy with a 
flashpoint international incident that may demand a response 
using unplanned resources and attention.
    Today, CENTCOM priorities are to deter Iran, counter 
violent extremist organizations, and compete strategically with 
China and Russia. Four decades after CENTCOM's formation, Iran 
remains the primary destabilizing element in the region. We 
have seen rapid advances in Iranian military capability over 
time.
    The Iran of 2023 is not the Iran of 1983. In fact, today, 
Iran is exponentially more capable than they were just 5 years 
ago. Today, Iran possesses the largest and most diverse missile 
arsenal in the Middle East, thousands of ballistic and cruise 
missiles, many capable of striking anywhere in the Middle East. 
Iran also maintains the largest and most capable UAV [unmanned 
aerial vehicle] force in the region.
    The regime continues to enrich and stockpile uranium far 
above what is needed for commercial use, and Tehran can enrich 
uranium far faster than it could even 2 years ago. An Iran with 
a nuclear weapon would change the Middle East overnight and 
forever. Iran's vast and deeply resourced proxy forces spread 
instability throughout the region and threaten our regional 
partners.
    As Iran continues to stabilize the region, we continue to 
fight against violent extremist organizations. In Syria, we put 
pressure on ISIS alongside our Syrian Democratic Forces 
partners. In Iraq, we advise, assist, and enable the Iraqi 
security forces in their fight against ISIS. While ISIS has 
significantly degraded in Iraq and Syria, the group maintains 
the capability to conduct operations within the region and has 
the desire to strike outside of it.
    Our progress in Iraq and Syria contrasts with the security 
situation in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, the Taliban's hold on 
security is maintained through ideology, continued humanitarian 
aid, and the persistent abuse of human rights to dissuade 
unrest.
    Extremist groups see opportunity and ISIS-Khorasan (ISIS-K) 
grows emboldened, seeking to expand its ranks and inspire, 
enable, and direct attacks in the region and beyond, with the 
ultimate goal to strike on the American Homeland.
    Amidst these challenges, strategic competition is deeply 
manifest in the region. The People's Republic of China (PRC) 
has chosen to compete in the region. The PRC is aggressively 
expanding its diplomatic, informational, military, and economic 
outreach across the region.
    China, dependent upon the region for half of its imported 
oil, is also moving beyond energy-based investments to 
encompass physical and telecommunication infrastructure that 
advances its Belt and Road initiatives.
    Over half the oil and more than a third of all the natural 
gas imported by China is supplied by CENTCOM countries. 
Nineteen of twentyone CENTCOM countries have signed a Belt and 
Road initiative with China. We are in a race to integrate with 
our partners before China can fully penetrate the region.
    Russia looks to expand its influence in Syria, seeking 
permanent basing there and undermining our efforts toward 
stability and security in the region. The United States Central 
Command juts up against Russia with a border six and a half 
times longer than the Russian border with NATO [North American 
Treaty Organization].
    Putin seeks to take advantage of this proximity with a 
foothold of influence in the Central Asian States, leveraging 
historical relations and a perceived decline in United States 
engagement to challenge our influence in that critical part of 
the world. With all these challenges and opportunities, the 
CENTCOM region looks to the United States for assurances of our 
commitment.
    For CENTCOM, that commitment is unwavering. In closing, let 
me thank you for your support to our servicemembers. I would 
also like to thank the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, 
coast guardsmen, and guardians who serve and sacrifice in 
CENTCOM, and all those who have done so for the last 40 years. 
It is the greatest honor of my lifetime to be their Commander. 
Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of General Michael Kurilla 
follows:]

         Prepared Statement by General Michael ``Erik'' Kurilla
         i. introduction: a landscape of increasing complexity
    In 1983, United States Central Command was formed to serve as a 
hedge against the expansionist goals of Iran--then in the nascent days 
of its new anti-American regime--and to serve American interests in the 
Middle East, Levant, and Central Asia amidst strategic competition with 
the Soviet Union. On November 14th 1982, Caspar Weinberger, the 15th 
Secretary of Defense, who oversaw the creation of CENTCOM, said: ``the 
central region is among the most important regions in the world as far 
as we're concerned and as far as the free world is concerned.'' The 
Senate Armed Services Committee's January 17, 1982 legislation 
authorizing this new command explained that ``U.S. Central Command, 
alongside local and regional forces, will be America's security 
guarantor in the world's central region.''
    Forty years later, while much of geopolitics and policy has 
transformed, the security landscape of this part of the world remains 
largely unchanged. In many important ways, the region's most vexing 
problems have grown more complex.
    Now, as then, the world's geographically central region remains 
critical to American security interests, global trade, global energy, 
and global security. Today, more than a third of global container 
traffic transits the Suez Canal and more than a quarter of global oil 
transits the Strait of Hormuz. The region is home to almost 50 percent 
of the world's known oil reserves and more than 40 percent of the 
world's national gas. This part of the world produces 37 percent of the 
world's oil, 18 percent of its gas, and houses four of the world's top 
five OPEC oil producers: Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and the United 
Arab Emirates.
    The central region remains among the most important regions in the 
world. A disruption in the maritime choke points flowing through the 
Middle East or the spread of instability throughout the region could 
threaten vital national interests and hold the global economy at risk.
    Four decades after revolutionary students overran the American 
embassy, Iran possesses the largest and most diverse missile arsenal in 
the Middle East, with thousands of ballistic and cruise missiles, some 
capable of striking the entire Middle East and Levant. The Iranian 
regime now holds the largest and most capable Unmanned Aerial Vehicle 
force in the region. The advancement of Iranian military capabilities 
over the past 40 years is unparalleled in the region; in fact, the 
Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps of today is unrecognizable from just 
5 years ago. Even more concerning, Iran has advanced its nuclear 
program such that Tehran can now produce sufficient fissile material 
for a nuclear weapon in less than 14 days. In addition, the regime 
invests heavily in information operations, including broadcasting, 
coordinated inauthentic activity, and cyber-attacks.
    Alongside the State threat posed by Iran, violent extremist groups 
continue to threaten the security and stability of the region. For 
example, ISIS, long past its 2014 pinnacle of capability, remains able 
to conduct operations within the region with a desire to strike beyond 
the Middle East. Though degraded, the group's vile ideology remains 
unconstrained.
    In Afghanistan, the reduction in collection, analytical resources, 
and Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance assets means our 
campaign against al Qaeda and ISIS-Khorasan is challenged; while we can 
see the broad contours of attack planning, we lack the granularity to 
see the complete threat picture. ISIS-Khorasan has increased attacks in 
the region and desires to export those attacks beyond Afghanistan to 
include the United States Homeland and our interests abroad.
    The group also seeks to expand its operational presence and 
influence regionally and beyond. We are addressing this through the 
development of innovative Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance platforms and increasing additional collection methods 
to build out a more fulsome threat picture.
    While Afghanistan's security situation deteriorates, the United 
States has a moral obligation to safely extract the tens of thousands 
of Special Immigrant Visa holders, many of whom aided United States 
troops as interpreters, translators, and advisors during our longest 
war.
    Meanwhile, strategic competition in the central region has grown 
more urgent over the past 40 years. Only now, the Soviet Union is 
replaced with Russia and the People's Republic of China, both of whom 
seek to undermine American interests in the region. Russia looks to 
aggressively expand its foothold of influence in the region amidst its 
war in Ukraine. Moscow leverages its military presence by propping up 
Syria to garner influence in the Middle East. The People's Republic of 
China aggressively expands its diplomatic, informational, economic, and 
military outreach in this part of the world.
    These challenges and complexities, combined with the opportunities 
offered by our partnerships in the region, form the basis of CENTCOM's 
three strategic priorities.
       ii. centcom strategic priorities: deter, counter, compete
Strategic Priority 1: Deter Iran
    Deterring Iran is arguably more urgent than at any time in 
CENTCOM's history due to Iran's cutting-edge missile and UAV capability 
as well as its uranium enrichment program. As it was at the time of 
CENTCOM's formation, Iran is the most destabilizing actor in the 
region. Today, Iran is undeterred from its malign activities, which 
include conventional threats to neighbors, support to violent proxy 
groups that spread chaos and instability throughout the region, and 
support to Russia's war in Ukraine.
    The evolution of the Iranian threat--the primary threat against 
which this command was born--is a story that runs the full timeline of 
CENTCOM history. Early in the Iran-Iraq war, the regime realized its 
armed forces could never fully recover from the crippling losses 
suffered during that ruinous conflict. Instead, to develop an 
asymmetric advantage against regional militaries, the regime invested 
in precision missiles with extended reach. It now commands an imposing 
measure of missile capability it uses to coerce, intimidate, and bully 
its neighbors.
    Tehran has also manufactured increasingly sophisticated Unmanned 
Aerial Vehicles. The regime now commands an arsenal of drone systems, 
ranging from small, short-range systems to modern intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance systems to long-range One-Way Attack 
platforms. They are building larger drones that can fly further with 
increasingly deadly payloads. Until the United States helped secure the 
Yemen truce, Iran was regularly using Yemen as a testing ground for 
these weapons, threatening both United States partners and tens of 
thousands of Americans in the Gulf.
    Meanwhile, Tehran continues to furnish weapons, support, and 
direction to proxies across the region who engage in acts of terror and 
undermine local governments, all advancing Iranian interests. The proxy 
forces are more emboldened and dangerous through the increased 
proliferation of these Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, which allow them to 
target U.S. and partner interests with increased speed, range, 
accuracy, and explosive capacity.
    This story grows more foreboding. Today, Iran continues to enrich 
and stockpile uranium far above what is needed for commercial use. 
Increasingly more centrifuges are the advanced IRN-6 models, capable of 
enriching uranium far faster and more efficiently than Iran's first-
generation centrifuges. The regime is now stockpiling highly enriched 
uranium under the guise of commercial use. The International Atomic 
Energy Agency report released on February 28th on Iran's enrichment 
program reveals that Iran's stockpile of uranium enriched up to 60 
percent has grown substantially in less than 3 months and that Iran now 
has sufficient nuclear material for manufacture of several nuclear 
explosive devices. The region is increasingly worried about a nuclear-
armed Iran.
    Iran also puts itself increasingly further outside of international 
norms; Tehran continues to ignore United Nations Security Council 
resolutions, violate sanctions and embargos, proliferate weapons to its 
network of proxies and affiliates, and attack shipping vessels in 
international waters. The regime continues the brutal beatdown of the 
rights of its citizenry, crushing dissent, protest, and human rights. 
Iranian-aligned groups routinely strike at American troops and our 
partners in Iraq and Syria.
    Recently, Iran's advanced weapons are seen on the battlefield of 
Ukraine alongside their Russian partners. Iran often aligns information 
operations with or in support of Russia. An internationally isolated 
Iran has clearly thrown in its lot with an also isolated Russia.
Strategic Priority 2: Counter Violent Extremist Organizations
    While Iran poses the most ominous threat to the central region, 
Violent Extremist Organizations (VEOs) operating in the Middle East, 
Levant, and Central Asian States also represent a danger to security 
and stability. The Central Command Area of Responsibility serves as the 
epicenter of violent extremism, with 19 of 21 top tier terrorist groups 
operating across the region. ISIS and al Qaeda are the principal Sunni 
violent extremist organizations in the Middle East and Levant. Both 
groups maintain numerous affiliates pursuing local, regional, and 
global objectives.
    ISIS continues to organize attacks throughout the Middle East and 
must not be allowed to operate uncontested. Alongside our Syrian 
Democratic Forces partners, we continue to put pressure on ISIS in 
Syria. In Iraq, we continue to advise, assist, and enable the 
development of the Iraqi security forces in their fight against ISIS.
    We see ISIS in Iraq and Syria in three groups:

    1.  ISIS At Large. This is the current generation of ISIS leaders 
and fighters we face in Iraq and Syria today. While we have 
significantly degraded this group's capability, it retains the ability 
to inspire, direct, organize, and lead attacks in the region and 
abroad.

        This group offers the most straightforward solution: partner 
with Syrian Democratic Forces and advise, enable, and assist Iraqi 
Security Forces until ISIS At Large is defeated. The two other groups 
represent far more complex problems.

    2.  ISIS In Detention. These are the roughly 10,000 ISIS fighters 
in detention facilities throughout Syria, and approximately 20,000 in 
detention facilities in Iraq. We rely on the Syrian Democratic Forces 
and our Iraqi partners to secure these sites, keeping this population 
off the battlefield. The Government of Iraq has sufficient 
infrastructure to keep these fighters in detention. The only long-term 
solution in Syria, however, is transfer of these detainees to the 
custody of their countries of origin.

       Last week, during my sixth visit to Syria since taking command 
11 months ago, I again visited the Hasakah detention facility, which 
houses more than 5,000 detained ISIS fighters predominately from the 
terror group's tactical defeat at the March 2019 battle in Baghuz. I 
observed the structural damage incurred during the January 2022 ISIS 
attack on the facility in which more than 1,000 ISIS fighters escaped. 
The vast majority were later recaptured by SDF forces. During that 10-
day battle involving SDF and United States forces, more than 400 ISIS 
fighters and 121 SDF soldiers were killed.

       This population of detainees represents a looming threat to 
Syria, the region, and beyond. Syrian Democratic Forces leaders 
securing the site as well as camp administration officials described 
the detainee population as unrepentant and subject to further 
radicalization. One Syrian Democratic Forces official referred to the 
more than 5,000 detainees as a ``ticking time bomb.''

       Unlike the first group, there is no military solution to this 
ISIS detainee population. We must support the Syrian Democratic Forces 
who continue to secure these sites while working with the countries of 
origin of these ISIS detainees to repatriate and rehabilitate or find a 
judicial solution.

    3.  The Potential Next Generation of ISIS. This, the most 
concerning group, includes the more than 30,000 children in the al-Hol 
camp for internally displaced persons and the more than 1,000 children 
in the al Roj camp who are in danger of ISIS indoctrination on a daily 
basis.

       Last week, while in the al Roj camp, I spoke with dozens of 
residents from at least 16 countries, including: Russia, Egypt, 
Turkiye, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Morocco, Pakistan, 
Afghanistan, Lebanon, Yemen, Tunisia, Iraq, Syria, Canada, and the 
United States. These residents told me that the vile ISIS ideology 
remains a threat throughout the camp. To a person, they all expressed a 
desire to return to their country of origin.

       During four trips to the al Hol camp in 11 months, I've seen 
first-hand that these children are prime targets for ISIS 
radicalization. The al-Hol camp is a flashpoint of human suffering, 
with more than 51,000 residents, more than 90 percent of them women and 
children, living in tents. These children have little meaningful 
education, no access to the outside world, limited hot water, and few 
constructive outlets to develop their potential. They are at risk of 
becoming casualties to an ideological war within the camps: ISIS 
leaders want their minds.

       As with the second category of ISIS, there is no military 
solution for this group. Our long-term goal must be the successful 
repatriation, rehabilitation, and reintegration of the camp residents 
back into their country of origin.

    While progress against ISIS in Iraq and Syria continues apace, the 
underlying conditions that led to the group's 2013 and 2014 expansion 
remain. The ruinous effects of Assad's rule and civil war in Syria 
lingers, employment and educational opportunities remain scarce for 
many young men, and millions live in appalling conditions. ISIS' vile 
ideology remains uncontained and unconstrained, and a seething hatred 
remains open to exploitation.
    Our continued, limited presence in Iraq and Syria allows us to 
assist the Syrian Democratic Forces and the Iraqi Security Forces in 
maintaining pressure on ISIS to prevent the group's resurgence to 2014 
levels. The minimal United States troop strength in those countries 
allows us the ability to advise, assist, and enable partner forces with 
the goal of the enduring defeat of ISIS and the prevention of external 
attack plots against the United States and nations throughout the 
region. Our support is essential to ensuring regional stability as well 
as protecting the Homeland.
    In Afghanistan, the Taliban's hold on security is maintained 
through ideology, continued humanitarian aid, and persistent abuse of 
human rights to dissuade unrest. Extremist groups see opportunity and 
ISIS-Khorasan grows emboldened amidst the chaos, seeking to expand its 
ranks and inspire, enable, or direct attacks in the region and beyond. 
ISIS-Khorasan is building a capability in Afghanistan from which to 
strike Western interests worldwide, with the ultimate goal of a strike 
on the American Homeland.
    Al Qaeda remnants remain in Afghanistan. While the July 2022 death 
of Ayman al-Zawahiri set the group back, al Qaeda desires to rebuild. 
Though this will take time, al Qaeda remains a long-term threat to 
American interests and citizens as well as the Homeland.
Strategic Priority 3: Compete Strategically
    In addition to its primary role as a redoubt against the spread of 
Iranian-directed instability across the region, this command was 
established in 1983 to maintain a military advantage over the Soviet 
Union amidst Great Power Competition. This was, after all, in the 
moments after the surprising 1979 Christmas Eve Soviet invasion of 
Afghanistan--the first major combat operation involving Soviet troops 
outside of Warsaw Pact territory since the close of World War II. 
Today, CENTCOM's role in Great Power Competition, clearly defined in 
the 2022 National Defense Strategy, is more urgent and complex.
  Strategic Competition with PRC
    China's goal to serve as the world's leading superpower by 2049 
puts this region squarely in its crosshairs. The United States Central 
Command area of responsibility shares a 2,200-mile border with the 
People's Republic of China--larger than the United States border with 
Mexico. China looks across that border and sees only opportunity for 
advantage in influence. Beijing's willingness to take on higher-risk 
projects threatens American preferential ties and unfettered access. On 
its current trajectory, the increased technological and military 
presence serves as a growing strategic challenge to U.S. partnerships, 
access, force presence, and security in the region.
    The People's Republic of China aggressively expands its diplomatic 
and economic outreach across the region. Last week's PRC-brokered 
reestablishment of relations between Iran and the Kingdom of Saudi 
Arabia underscores the emergence of China's diplomatic role in the 
region.
    China, dependent on the region for half of its crude oil, is also 
moving beyond energy-based investments to encompass physical and 
telecommunications infrastructure. Beijing also encourages greater 
military cooperation in the Middle East and Central Asia, aiming to 
challenge our standing in the region. More than half of all the oil and 
more than a third of all the natural gas imported by China is supplied 
by countries within the CENTCOM area of responsibility.
    Expanding regional arms sales by Beijing provides economic 
opportunities, expands influence and increases People's Republic of 
China interoperability in the region. China seeks to under-mine 
American economic, commercial, and security interest in this part of 
the world to be-come the region's leading power.
    Beijing has reason for optimism here. China is often viewed by 
regional partners as more accommodating than the United States, 
offering lower costs, favorable financing, faster delivery times and no 
end-use monitoring agreements. During my trips to the region and calls 
with regional Chiefs of Defense, I routinely hear how much faster and 
easier China's foreign military sales program is than ours. While the 
American foreign military sales process involves multiple steps going 
through multiple layers of government bureaucracy, the PRC can move 
much faster, often mak-ing us non-competitive by comparison. Although 
this multi-layered process is a reflection of our form of government 
and U.S. law, it often has a deleterious effect on our ability to 
compete for the sorts of long-term relationships that the sales of 
major defense systems create.
    The Belt and Road Initiative remains a strategic lever to supplant 
U.S. leadership in the region under the guise of benign economic 
initiatives and broadening security relationships. Of the 21 countries 
comprising the CENTCOM area of responsibility, 19 have Belt and Road 
Initiative agreements with China.
    Regional powers see the Belt and Road Initiative as an opportunity 
to modernize their cities and societies to advance regional economic 
and social reform programs including Saudi Arabia's Vision 2030, Oman's 
Vision 2040, Qatar's Vision 2030, Kuwait's Vision 2035, and Egypt's 
Vision 2030. Three Belt and Road Initiative land corridors and one of 
the three maritime corridors transits the CENTCOM area of 
responsibility.
    As the United States reduced force posture in the region, Chinese 
investment and influence grew steadily. Consider the following:

      The 8-year period from 2013 to 2021 represented the 
largest investment period in the CENTCOM region in PRC history with 
$408.7 billion in commercial investments;

      From 2015 to 2021, just as it was accelerating commercial 
investment, the PRC devoted $2.6 trillion in trade with CENTCOM 
countries;

      In 2021, in Israel's largest shipping hub, the PRC opened 
a new, $1.7 billion modern technological port which is significantly 
larger than Israel's three international ports and supports large 
shipping vessels capable of carrying more than 18,000 containers;

      The PRC is building and operating a container terminal in 
Abu Dhabi;

      The 10-year, $62 billion China-Pakistan Economic 
Corridor, begun in 2015, is the BRI flagship;

      Saudi Arabia is China's largest supplier of crude oil and 
with December 2022s comprehensive strategic agreement, PRC reliance on 
Saudi crude is set to increase;

      Huawei has 5G contracts with 19 of the 21 countries in 
the CENTCOM region; and

      The PRC targets Iraq for influence and resources--Beijing 
invested $10.1 billion in BRI projects in Iraq in 2021 alone.

    China's economic interests, transactional approaches and perceived 
lack of Chinese bias in in-ternal and regional affairs, will continue 
to provide inroads in the region.
  Strategic Competition with Russia
    Today, 32 years after the fall of the Soviet Union, Russia's 
objectives are to weaken Western security structures in the Middle East 
and Central Asia and continue to challenge United States security 
interests and critical relationships in the region.
    The United States Central Command region holds a 4,750-mile border 
with Russia--more than six times the length of NATO's border with 
Russia--through the Central Asian States. Since Catherine the Great in 
1762, Russia has sought this region as part of its empire. The Kremlin 
has viewed the Central Asian States as its territory since the 1922 
Treaty on the Creation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The 
emphasis on ownership over Central Asia took on a fever pitch after 
World War II, when Stalin used the region for resource extraction and 
strategic depth. Putin seeks to take advantage of this proximity and 
history by establishing a foothold of influence leveraging long-
established relations and a perceived decline in United States 
engagement to challenge our influence in that critical part of the 
world. Russia retains extensive interests in Central Asia, spanning 
energy, military sales, counterterrorism, counter-drug efforts, and 
others.
    Today, Putin's interests in the Middle East range from energy 
transit to security relationships to military sales. His overall 
strategy in the region remains largely unaffected by the war in 
Ukraine. Despite the recent damage to its reputation and influence, 
Russia continues apace on several fronts to preserve its influence and 
access in the Middle East. This includes sustaining military support in 
Syria that is indispensable to Assad and influential with Syria's 
neighbors.
    Russia has more than 2,500 Russian troops in Syria, which Putin 
views as a base from which to project power and influence throughout 
the region and into Europe and Africa. Russian maritime forces maintain 
a permanent presence in Syria's coastal city of Tartus. In 2019, the 
two countries signed a 49-year lease for rights to Tartus' 
Mediterranean deep-water port. Just as CENTCOM was formed to serve as 
the ``security guarantor'' of the world's central region, Russia views 
itself as the security guarantor of the Central Asian States. However, 
as a result of the invasion of Ukraine, the Central Asian States 
increasingly view Russia as a threat to their sovereignty.
    iii. centcom's strategic approach: people, partners, innovation
    As it enters its fifth decade, CENTCOM requires a new Strategic 
Approach to guide all operations, activities, investments, and 
initiatives against these complex and confounding challenges. That 
Strategic Approach is defined by three words: People, Partners, and 
Innovation.
  People
    Throughout CENTCOM's lifespan, its People have served the region, 
our Nation, and this command. Since our 1983 inception, our People have 
fought for and provided assistance to the citizens of the world's 
central region. Over the course of 4 decades, they have displayed the 
grit, discipline, compassion, and empathy that the United States 
expects out of its military force.
    Today, our People--our servicemembers, civilian workforce, 
contractors, and supportive Families--serve as the bedrock of 
everything we do and how we succeed. They underpin all aspects of our 
strategic approach and drive us along our strategic priorities.
    Our People at CENTCOM are our greatest asset and our most critical 
resource. We hire, invest in, retain, and care for our People and their 
families.
  Partners
    Partners are our Nation's comparative advantage against competitors 
like the People's Republic of China and Russia and serve as a barrier 
against the ramifications of Iran's most destructive behavior. No 
nation can face the complexity described above alone. We therefore 
cultivate deep abiding relations with forces in the region that can 
serve as a hedge against threats in the region while deterring Iran 
from its worst, most destabilizing activity. We are in a race to 
integrate our partners before China and Russia can deeply penetrate the 
region.
    For China and Russia, partnerships are transactional relationships. 
For CENTCOM, our partnerships are based in our values and our 
commitment to the region. China views regional countries as possible 
customers and clients, while we seek partners and allies. Our values 
and our commitment make us the partner of choice in the region. We must 
always hold true to our commitments to partner forces and nations as 
our actions speak for us to the region.
    CENTCOM was formed to serve in support of and alongside Partners--
the ``local and regional forces'' referenced by the legislation 
directing the formation of U.S. Central Command. Today that focus is 
more urgent than ever in our 40-year history.
    For a period of almost 20 years, CENTCOM served as the priority 
resourcing requirement for the U.S. Department of Defense. This was an 
anomaly in America's national security history: the only period in 
which the Nation was committed to two simultaneous wars since World War 
II. With the conclusion of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have 
significantly reduced our force posture in the Middle East. Without the 
large volume of planes, ships, and troops we had in the region just 5 
years ago, we must integrate our partners into all security constructs 
to foster regional security and stability.
    Referring back to the Senate Armed Services Committee legislation 
guiding CENTCOM in 1983--this command was established to serve as a 
``security guarantor of American interests in the world's central 
region.'' Today, we uphold that responsibility by serving as a security 
integrator: integrating our Partners into a framework of operations, 
activities, investments, and initiatives that will ensure sufficient 
regional security to protect our vital national interests.
    The kind of deep, abiding partnerships CENTCOM seeks is exemplified 
by the Coalition Maritime Forces, a multinational maritime partnership 
led by U.S. Naval Forces Central. The Combined Maritime Forces, the 
world's largest international maritime partnership, exists to uphold 
the rules-based international order. Through this mutually supportive 
partnership, the 38 CMF participant countries counter illicit non-State 
actors on the high seas and promote security, stability, and prosperity 
across international waters.
    The realignment of Israel from European Command to Central Command 
18 months ago has immediately and profoundly altered the nature and 
texture of many of CENTCOM's partnerships for the good. Back in 1983, 
the boundaries of the CENTCOM Area of Responsibility excluded Israel; 
Secretary Weinberger and National Security Advisor William Clark were 
concerned that CENTCOM leaders would be challenged to build enduring, 
trust-based relations with Arab military leaders while also partnering 
with the Israel Defense Force. While that concern may have been well-
founded then, CENTCOM today readily partners with Arab militaries and 
the Israel Defense Force alike. In fact, the inclusion of Israel 
presents many collaborative and constructive security opportunities. 
Our partners of 4 decades largely see the same threats and have common 
cause with Israel Defense Forces and the Arab militaries in defending 
against Iran's most destabilizing activities.
  Innovation
    Through Innovation we multiply the capability of our People and 
strengthen our partnerships to deter Iran, counter VEOs, and compete 
with China and Russia for influence across the region.
    Innovation will strengthen our partnerships, assist our operations, 
and allow us to increase progress across all efforts. In so doing, it 
will allow us to serve as that security integrator on behalf of 
regional security and stability.
    Innovation is not just about technology for us; it is innovation of 
thought, innovation of concept, innovation of process. We are building 
a culture of innovation and our partners are with us on this journey. 
For example, across all domains, through employment of systems on hand 
and newly acquired systems, we are building an interconnected mesh of 
sensors that transmit real-time data. When viewed together through data 
integration and Artificial Intelligence platforms, this real-time data 
builds a clearer picture of the operating environment. Across CENTCOM, 
our formations use unmanned systems paired with Artificial Intelligence 
to give us better information faster. This allows us to employ our 
manned systems more efficiently and strategically and thereby achieve 
decision dominance. We're able to cultivate information and use 
Artificial Intelligence to make decisions faster than our adversaries 
and use our manned systems more efficiently.
    The U.S. Central Command theater holds almost no assigned forces, 
and with the declining emphasis on defeating violent extremist 
organizations and the National Defense Strategy shift in primary focus 
to U.S. strategic competitors, our forces decreased 15 percent over the 
course of 2022 alone. CENTCOM force posture saw a reduction of 85 
percent from its 2008 peak. With so many looming and existential 
threats in the region and such a strong possibility of chaos spreading 
and driving the region to again become a strategic distractor, we must 
innovate to expand our presence beyond those allocated forces. This is 
enabled by the creative application of technology and innovation.
    CENTCOM's three innovation task forces--Task Forces 59, 99, and 
39--apply these concepts to specific domains. For example, the most 
advanced--Task Force 59, our maritime innovation task force--operates a 
fleet of unmanned vessels, both on the surface of the water and under 
the water. These unmanned vessels carry sensors which are collecting 
vast amounts of data. That data, pushed through data integration and 
artificial intelligence platforms, helps build a clearer picture of the 
operating environment. Through Task Force 59, 99, and 39 CENTCOM is 
rapidly improving maritime threat detection and maritime domain 
awareness and building an integrated, unmanned, and artificial 
intelligence network to achieve safer seas and stronger protection for 
global trade.
    Just this month, Task Force 59 completed a 3-week International 
Maritime Exercise involving 7,000 personnel, 50 partner nations and 
organizations, 35 ships, 30 unmanned systems, and more than a dozen AI 
tools. The exercise, which took place in the Arabian Gulf, Arabian Sea, 
Gulf of Oman, Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and East African coastal regions, 
strengthened participants' interoperability and command and control.
    More importantly, our international and regional partners are right 
there with us. Task Force 59 has established hubs in Bahrain and 
Jordan. Four months ago, Bahrain participated in a naval drill in the 
Gulf during which seven crewed ships from Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United 
Kingdom, and the United States teamed with unmanned systems. By the end 
of this year, our goal is a Task Force 59 fleet of more than 100 
vessels--at least 75 from partner maritime forces--operating together, 
communicating together, and providing a common operating picture to all 
participating militaries.
    In addition to Task Force 59, which operates at sea in the maritime 
domain, we have Task Force 99, based in Qatar, operating in the air 
domain. Through implementation of Commercial Off-The-Shelf Technology 
and collaboration with industry and academia, Task Force 99 creates a 
technology transition ecosystem that allows increased awareness and 
faster decisionmaking and places cutting-edge tools in the hands of 
warfighters and decisionmakers. The task force's three lines of effort 
(LOEs) are: increasing awareness of the air domain, accelerating the 
speed of the targeting cycle, and imposing dilemmas on adversaries.
    Task Force 99 also focuses on aerial drones complete with tailored 
payloads and other capabilities operating together to observe, detect, 
and gather data that feeds into an operations center. This increases 
our air domain awareness and rapidly accelerates the speed of our 
decisionmaking. Task Force 99's fleet of unmanned aircraft will impose 
dilemmas on our adversaries and detect and defeat threats to our 
systems and to our partners.
    Finally, we have Task Force 39, our newest innovation task force. 
Task Force 39 tests concepts and technology in the land domain with a 
heavy focus on testing new technology to defeat adversary drones. In 
the coming months, this task force will experiment with robotic 
sustainment vehicles.
    Through these innovation Task Forces, CENTCOM seeks to serve as the 
experimentation center for new drone-defeat systems, ideas, and 
technology, to include directed energy. At CENTCOM, we consider 
opportunities for innovation as limitless. They are boundless and cross 
all realms of possibility.
    CENTCOM is also accelerating the employment of Joint All Domain 
Command and Control solutions to combat operations to achieve vertical 
integration from the Joint Task Force and
    Components, all the way to the Joint Staff and National Command 
Authority. Every day, we drive Joint All Domain Command and Control 
capability forward to allow our People to make faster, more informed 
decisions in combat's critical moments.
    As a data-centric warfighting headquarters, we've transformed our 
targeting process from PowerPoint slides to the employment of live 
data. Our goal is a Single Pane of Glass that builds better situational 
understanding and allows commanders to achieve decision advantage like 
never before.
    In late January and early February of this year, our headquarters 
led Scarlet Dragon Oasis, our Joint All Domain Command and Control live 
fire exercise on the eastern seaboard, the mid-Atlantic Electronic 
Warfare range, and across the U.S. Central Command region. The 
operation successfully passed digital targeting data and mission 
threads between multiple commands across the United States, from Nevada 
to Utah to Tampa and our operations centers in South Carolina and 
Bahrain. From computer vision, full-motion video, and synthetic 
aperture radar algorithms identifying targets, to digital workflow 
tools improving speed and precision of targeting teams, to optimizing 
machine-to-machine communication flow, the exercise marked a critical 
step toward digital warfighting.
    Each of these tools, concepts, initiatives, and task forces are 
singularly focused on providing our People with the best tools, the 
most comprehensive rapid situational awareness, and the fastest and 
most accurate decisionmaking capability. This, in turn, serves a great 
benefit to our Partners and to the security and stability of the 
region. Innovation is about linking our People and our Partners with 
ideas and capabilities that enhance all efforts to deter Iran, counter 
violent extremist organizations, and compete strategically with Russia 
and China.
  People, Partners, and Innovation and the National Defense Strategy
    The strategic approach outlined above is heavily nested underneath 
the 2022 National Defense Strategy. By empowering our People, building 
out abiding Partnerships, and embracing Innovation, CENTCOM looks to 
allow the National Defense Strategy to manifest across the Joint Force. 
A flashpoint with Iran, a crisis in the region, a successful large-
scale attack on a partner country, or an attack on the Homeland by a 
VEO all will likely require a response, drawing resources not forecast 
away from higher priority theaters to the Central Command region. 
Therefore, a modest investment in People, Partners, and Innovation 
serves as a hedge against National Defense Strategy derailment.
    Furthermore, the Central Command region is literally and 
figuratively central to competition with Russia and China--a National 
Defense Strategy priority for all of the Joint Force. Our strategic 
approach aligns People, Partners, and Innovation against Strategic 
Competition with the People's Republic of China and Russia, which the 
National Defense Strategy identifies as the priority across all global 
regions.
                 iv. conclusion: a vision and a promise
    United States Army General Robert Kingston saw the future.
    At the pinnacle of a career leading troops in heavy combat--
Kingston fought in some of the heaviest fighting of both the Korean and 
Vietnam wars and was among the most decorated military officers of his 
generation--he was selected as the first commander of United States 
Central Command. A soft-spoken, battle-hardened warfighter, Kingston 
knew the central region from his time leading a contingency force 
focused on Iran during the early moments of the hostage crisis. He 
understood the unique set of challenges facing the new command and he 
knew that the answers to all of them relied on an enduring CENTCOM 
commitment to regional forces.
    In assuming responsibility for United States Central Command in a 
ceremony on MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida on January 3d, 
1983, Kingston told the assembled crowd: ``CENTCOM will require 
regional military forces to accomplish its mission for the Nation.''
    This posture statement is informed by my 14 trips to the region and 
the hundreds of calls, video teleconferences, and meetings with 
partnered Chiefs of Defense and their military component leaders in my 
11 months in command. Those engagements crystallized in my mind that 40 
years after Robert Kingston spoke those words, one thing is clear: 
CENTCOM requires regional military forces [i.e. Partners] to accomplish 
its mission for the Nation. So it will into the future.
    The challenges faced by Kingston and his staff and component 
leaders have only grown more complex. The threats, more capable. The 
competition for influence with external powers, more urgent.
    People, Partners, Innovation is our glidepath to deter Iran, 
counter VEOs, and compete strategically, allowing us to meet the 
challenges posed by these threats, complexities, and adversaries and 
ensure regional security and stability.
    We employ this strategic approach along a foundation of regional 
stability earned by American servicemembers over the course of 4 
decades. In peace, in war, in years and years of sustained combat, in 
the toughest conditions faced by American servicemembers since the
    Vietnam War, these men and women bought time and space for American 
leadership and preserved our vital national interests in this critical 
region. From the Tanker War to the Gulf War to the Global War on 
Terrorism and many contingency and humanitarian assistance operations 
in between--CENTCOM troops have fulfilled the original promise of this 
command: ``U.S. Central Command, alongside local and regional forces, 
will be America's security guarantor in the world's central region.'' 
Today's CENTCOM servicemembers have transitioned this command to a 
security integrator.
    Those troops are the forebears of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, 
marines, coastguardsmen, and guardians who serve in CENTCOM today--the 
greatest men and women in the country, thousands of them in harm's way 
as you read this, advancing American policy and representing the 
Nation. It is my life's greatest honor to lead them.
    Armed with the right strategic approach and the right measure of 
resources, I know they will succeed.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, General Kurilla. General Langley, 
please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL MICHAEL E. LANGLEY, USMC COMMANDER, UNITED 
                     STATES AFRICA COMMAND

    General Langley. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
distinguished Committee Members, it is an honor to appear 
before you today to testify on the State of affairs of the 
United States Africa Command.
    I am proud to testify, along my good friend, General Eric 
Kurilla, the Commander of the United States Central Command. 
Now, I assumed command last August, and since then, I embarked 
upon a campaign of learning over the last 7 months to inform 
our discussion here today.
    I undertook this campaign of learning to fulfill my 
commitment to this Congress to complete a holistic assessment 
upon confirmation. I made that assessment, and I will continue 
it throughout my tenure of command.
    Upfront, I want to make one thing crystal clear. The team 
of servicemembers and civilians at AFRICOM is a talent and 
dedicated body. I am honored to serve among them. I am joined 
here today by my State Department foreign policy advisor, Mr. 
Phil Nelson, who represents the exceptionally skilled 
diplomatic team embedded in our headquarters.
    Our entire team is laser focused on implementing our whole-
of-government approach, with our partners from the Department 
of State, USAID [United States Agency for International 
Development], the intelligence community, and other U.S. 
Government organizations. We campaign with our allies and 
partners to advance mutual interest and to promote stability 
and prosperity on the African continent.
    You should be proud of their efforts, I certainly am. Now, 
Africa is a vast and dynamic continent of sovereign nations. 
Collectively and individually, these nations are increasingly 
important players on the global stage. As such, AFRICOM's 
contribution to American security must be viewed through a 
global lens.
    Threats once contained on the continent are transforming 
into worldwide threats. Terrorism, poverty, food insecurity, 
climate change, and mass migration shadow African lives. They 
sow the seeds of violent extremists and Russian exploitation. 
The Kremlin's invasion of Ukraine has aggravated the food 
insecurity crisis in Africa by blocking vital food shipments to 
the same nations that feel the deepest impact of climate 
change.
    Russia's Wagner mercenaries turned chaos into cash. It 
destabilizes entire regions across Africa and cuts at American 
interests worldwide. The expansion of the Middle East based 
violent extremist groups such as ISIS and al Qaeda, including 
now the biggest franchise Al-Shabaab, threatens American lives.
    Solutions to these colossal problems must be a shared 
burden. African nations need to be at the helm of a concerted 
international effort to produce sustainable results, 
sustainable outcomes.
    Assisting African nations to achieving the goals while 
advancing American interests can only be accomplished through a 
synchronized whole-of-government approach, a whole-of-
government strategy.
    We call it a 3-D approach, which is a toolkit of diplomacy, 
development, and defense, but one tool does not succeed without 
the whole kit. So, I will advocate for my State Department and 
USAID partners to receive the resources they need to succeed. 
Now, Africa faces many other challenges.
    How we are putting African needs at the forefront of our 
campaign, reinforced by multilateral and whole Government 
engagement, will help AFRICOM and our partners work toward a 
sustainable peace, stability, and prosperity.
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished 
Members of this Committee, thank you for having me here today. 
I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Michael E. Langley 
follows:]

            Prepared Statement by General Michael E. Langley
                  african security in a global context
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, distinguished Committee 
members, Africa's impact on the world is greater now than at any point 
in recent history, so United States Africa Command (USAFRICOM) sees our 
mission through a global lens. The vast potential of African peoples to 
lead the way in worldwide growth is up against a rising tide of 
existential challenges. Threats from within the continent are 
transforming into threats to America's interests and allies. Terrorism, 
poverty, food and water insecurity, protracted conflict, climate 
change, and mass human migration disproportionately shatter African 
lives. Solutions to these colossal problems must be a shared burden, 
with African nations at the helm of concerted international efforts and 
a United States whole-of-nation contribution that produces sustainable 
outcomes. Since 2008, USAFRICOM has been proud to defend American 
interests and lead the United States Department of Defense's inclusive 
approach to helping African peoples achieve positive outcomes for all.
    Crises in Africa set the stage for violent extremist organizations 
(VEOs) to grow, and for America's strategic competitors to bid for 
international allies. As the home of some of al-Qaeda's and ISIS's 
largest and most active branches, Africa is now the epicenter of 
international terrorism. Russia is expanding its African operations, 
including via the Kremlin-supported private military company Wagner; 
destabilization, democratic backsliding, and human rights abuses follow 
in their wake. Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine impaired 
Africa's food supply, compounding the lingering challenges of the 
COVID-19 pandemic. Meanwhile, the People's Republic of China's (PRC's) 
economic and military presence poses challenges for both African 
nations and American interests. Climate change-related shocks drove a 
surge in African natural disasters last year, killing and displacing 
millions though protracted droughts, mass flooding, disease outbreaks 
and tropical storms. All of these crises combine with protracted 
regional conflicts to impede progress toward a stable continent and a 
prosperous planet where democracy, human rights, and the rule of law 
flourish.
    The world needs a stable African continent of sovereign nations 
pulling together toward the universal goals of peace and prosperity. 
Africa's six maritime chokepoints carry a third of the world's 
shipping. Economic growth on the continent has accelerated in recent 
decades, and Africa is increasingly an engine of the global economy. 
This engine is partly fueled by vast deposits of rare earth minerals--
critical ingredients of the world's transition to clean, sustainable 
energy--and by the human capital of a swelling population that will 
account for a quarter of humankind by 2050. Sub-Saharan Africa is the 
UN's largest regional voting bloc, and three of our African partners 
currently sit on the United Nations Security Council: Gabon, Ghana, and 
Mozambique. Africa's national voices increasingly harmonize in 
organizations like the African Union, regional economic communities, 
and multinational security forces that welcome American support. Africa 
is a continent of opportunity.
    The servicemembers and civilians of USAFRICOM are dedicated to 
helping our African counterparts seize that opportunity. USAFRICOM 
promotes security and prosperity in collaboration with the U.S. 
Departments of State (DOS) and Justice (DOJ), the U.S. Agency for 
International Development (USAID), U.S. Coast Guard, Department of 
Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and others. By 
aligning our defense efforts with diplomacy and development, USAFRICOM 
teams with African and international partners to campaign across the 
spectrum of diplomacy, development, and defense. By convening those 
partners in major multilateral exercises like AFRICAN LION, FLINTLOCK, 
and the ACCORD and EXPRESS series, USAFRICOM tests and shares 
institution-building best practices--including implementing the 2017 
Women, Peace, and Security Act and advocating for strict adherence to 
the law of armed conflict. By working daily with U.S. embassies and 
units throughout the Joint Force, USAFRICOM stands ready to deliver 
life-saving rapid response to flashpoints in remote and unpredictable 
parts of the world.
    America's tools for defense in Africa include military education, 
intelligence sharing, maritime and cyber domain awareness, medical 
training, DOS's foreign military sales, and--when warranted and 
authorized--lethal force to protect American lives and support partner-
led counterterrorism missions. This toolkit of security cooperation and 
operational authorities helps African partners to fight 21st century 
terrorists and criminals, providing clear alternatives to unfavorable 
and opaque deals with Russia or the PRC. Whole of nation investments in 
Africa are opportunities for America to demonstrate global leadership 
while reinforcing the international rules-based system across all 
domains of commerce and defense. USAFRICOM is continually innovating 
fresh ideas with our partners and fielding new solutions for a peaceful 
and prosperous Africa--an outcome that will underpin America's long-
term security.
    Underinvestment in African security raises the risk of an 
unexpected crisis that would abruptly strip United States resources 
away from our top national security challenge of strategic competition. 
It has happened before. In the late 20th century, al Qaeda grew 
unchecked in Africa culminating in the 1998 bombings of our embassies 
in Kenya and Tanzania. More recently, the Benghazi, Libya attack in 
2012, the Tongo Tongo, Niger attack in 2017, and the Manda Bay, Kenya 
attack in 2020 claimed American lives. These tragedies drew U.S. 
defense capital away from enduring strategic objectives. USAFRICOM's 
mission is to mitigate the risk of such tragedies while guarding NATO's 
southern flank and protecting the brave Americans who defend our great 
Nation.
                          terrorism in africa
    The most immediate threat to both American lives and our partners 
in Africa is terrorism. Al Qaeda and ISIS sprouted in the Middle East 
but quickly transplanted onto the African continent where they 
flourished. Terrorist attacks in the Sahel region accounted for over a 
third of the world's terrorism deaths in 2021, up from just 1 percent 
in 2007. Today, Africa's VEOs vary in their tactics, resources, and 
specific goals, but all aspire to target American interests and African 
governments. These VEOs are dynamic networks that hide in vast under-
governed spaces and bustling population centers, creating immense 
challenges for surveillance and disruption. Their attacks leave 
countless civilians dead, maimed, and destitute while undermining 
governance and already struggling economies, which in turn contributes 
to mass migration into Europe. As VEOs grow, the risk of terrorist 
plots against U.S. citizens, embassies, and ultimately the Homeland are 
likely to rise.
    USAFRICOM is on the job to counter VEOs in Africa.
    Last May, President Biden directed USAFRICOM to move a small force 
back into Somalia to help its people fight al-Qaeda's biggest and 
richest franchise, al-Shabaab. Al-Shabaab dominates swathes of 
territory that feed their coffers, replenish their ranks, and provide 
springboards to attack neighboring countries. Without relentless 
suppression and ultimate pacification, al-Shabaab will seek to attack 
United States embassies and eventually the Homeland itself. Somalia's 
Government under President Hassan Sheikh Mohamud is waging a heroic war 
against al-Shabaab in collaboration with an array of local and foreign 
supporters, including the United Kingdom, TUrkiye, the United Nations, 
the European Union, and the African Union Transition Mission in Somalia 
(ATMIS). ATMIS is mandated to gradually draw down until its final exit 
at the end of 2024.
    USAFRICOM plays a supporting role in the fight against al-Shabaab, 
but our contributions are unique and irreplaceable. Last year, we 
conducted 15 collective self-defense airstrikes against al-Shabaab, 
saving the lives of Somali soldiers engaged in combat with our mutual 
enemy. These airstrikes played a critical role in supporting Somali 
partners undertaking offensive operations. We also conducted a 
precision airstrike that resulted in the death of a high value al-
Shabaab terrorist, demonstrating our commitment to acting decisively to 
degrade al-Shabaab's threat to United States persons in the region and 
beyond. Alongside our DOS colleagues, we are providing financial, 
materiel, training, logistical and medical support to Somalia's 
counterterrorism forces. This support includes training and equipping 
Somali special operations via the Danab Advanced Infantry Brigade, 
which spearheads missions alongside other Somali and ATMIS forces to 
clear al-Shabaab strongholds. Enabled by USAFRICOM, a Somali-led 
offensive has slowed al-Shabaab's offensive momentum. Al-Shabaab has 
responded with a wave of reprisal attacks against Somali combatants and 
civilians alike, and Somalia's progress against the group is fragile. 
To preserve their battlefield progress and degrade al-Shabaab on an 
enduring basis, Somalia needs United States governance and development 
support more than ever.
    The need for USAFRICOM in West Africa is also acute. Associates of 
al-Qaeda's second-largest and fastest-growing branch in Africa--Jama'at 
Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin (JNIM)--kidnapped an American citizen in 
Burkina Faso last year. Her safe release was thanks to our African 
partners and a United States whole-of-government effort, but JNIM 
continues to hold another American kidnapped in 2016 and increasingly 
threatens Americans in West Africa. They are wreaking havoc with our 
regional partners as their reach outgrows rural havens in Mali and 
Burkina Faso and now projects into the Gulf of Guinea littoral states. 
JNIM has dramatically increased attacks on civilians and security 
forces alike and expanded territory under its influence. The outcome 
has been thousands of dead and millions of displaced West Africans 
along with acute political strain that fostered military takeovers of 
democratic governments in Mali and Burkina Faso. Wagner mercenaries 
have been quick to turn this turmoil into opportunity. Wagner's 
draconian operations with its partner in Mali both add to the human 
cost of terrorism and create more openings for terrorist groups. 
USAFRICOM is assisting our West African partners to limit JNIM's 
activity and prevent JNIM's expansion. We are ever vigilant in 
monitoring for plots against Americans or the Homeland. As JNIM grows, 
the likelihood of such plots emerging also grows.
    ISIS's seven branches on the African Continent also aspire to 
attack American interests and partners. From the Mediterranean Sea to 
Mozambique Channel, ISIS cells heed the call of Middle East-based 
leaders to kill Africans, destroy Africans' infrastructure, and spread 
violent jihadist ideology. This ideology feeds off government 
instability and human rights violations, but our partnership has 
enabled incremental progress against ISIS. Governments in North Africa 
and their professional militaries have succeeded in limiting ISIS 
expansion and crippling the recruitment and outflow of ISIS foreign 
fighters; United States security cooperation has been key to those 
efforts, and we must maintain these critical partnerships to prevent 
ISIS and other VEOs from reemerging. In east, west, and southern 
Africa, a combination of multinational counter-VEO operations and 
ISIS's competition with rival VEOs is stymying their growth. At 
President Biden's direction, in January USAFRICOM took down global ISIS 
finance leader Bilal al-Sudani, which has already yielded new 
intelligence insights into ISIS's global operations and its plans and 
intentions in Africa. The credit for successes against ISIS goes to the 
local peoples, but USAFRICOM has been a crucial partner in this 
progress by providing training, funding, and intelligence.
    However, ISIS cells throughout Africa are finding ways to adapt and 
reconstitute. ISIS continues to kill and displace thousands in West 
Africa, Mozambique, and the Great Lakes region. Former ISIS franchise 
Boko Haram is wreaking similar damage in Nigeria and the Lake Chad 
Basin. In concert with national, multilateral, multiregional, and U.N. 
forces, USAFRICOM is America's eyes and ears to provide warning and 
options to disrupt ISIS developments before they threaten the Homeland 
or United States citizens.
                strategic competition in africa: russia
    As a producer of food, fossil fuels, and military hardware, Russia 
has the opportunity to join with the international community in helping 
African nations overcome terrorism and poverty.
    Instead, the Kremlin tramples African interests by leveraging 
Wagner, a United States-designated transitional criminal organization, 
to aggravate weak governance and feed instability. The Kremlin's 
motives are power and profit. Recent coups d'etat have triggered U.S. 
restrictions that hinder USAFRICOM engagement, forcing those military 
regimes to double-down on their dependence on Wagner. Although well 
intended, United States coup restrictions can inadvertently incentivize 
the most at-risk African countries to dig themselves deeper into the 
mire of militancy and corruption.
    The Kremlin disregards African interests by withholding fuel and 
food to create political leverage, under-delivers on military hardware 
and security commitments, and exploits existing friction points to 
spread Russia's influence. Wagner exploits political fractures in 
Libya, where Russia seeks to threaten NATO's southern flank. Wagner 
benefits from Libya's fragmentation, and its interference in parts of 
Libya risks hindering efforts to form the unified national government 
and security forces that the Libyan people want and deserve. Wagner 
lacks accountability to the rule of law and norms of ethics and human 
rights, making them a deceptively attractive option for some regimes. 
Wagner's short-term promises can be enticing, but the long-term outcome 
for African clients are nations mired in corruption and crime that 
stunt economic growth. Wagner's financial price tag is exorbitant. The 
full Wagner bill is even worse: the failure of government institutions, 
the withdrawal of stalwart security allies, the extraction of mineral 
wealth, and long-term resource concessions and debt that chips away at 
Africans' future.
    In addition to Wagner's damage, Russia's February 2022 invasion of 
Ukraine sent African food markets into a crisis. Food prices 
skyrocketed as grain and fertilizer shipments from Eastern Europe 
dropped. Without doubt, Africans are victims of the Kremlin's ongoing 
aggression in Ukraine.
                  strategic competition in africa: prc
    In contrast to Russia's overwhelmingly harmful influence in Africa, 
the PRC's deep and diverse investment on the continent is a mixed bag. 
All sovereign nations are free to evaluate and choose their security 
and trade partners, and the PRC sees the same promise in Africa's 
future that the whole world recognizes. The PRC has prioritized Africa 
for years--and that will not change anytime soon. In January, the PRC's 
new Foreign Minister used his first overseas trip to visit several 
African countries--just like every PRC Foreign Minister has done 
annually for the past 3 decades. Last year, the People's Liberation 
Army Navy (PLAN) made its inaugural port call at the PRC's first 
overseas base: Doraleh, Djibouti. Also in Djibouti, the PRC is planning 
to construct a permanent spaceport. The PRC seeks to establish 
additional military and space facilities in multiple African countries, 
notably on the West Coast. This could sustain PLAN combatants in the 
Atlantic and secure unimpeded circumnavigation of the continent.
    USAFRICOM works with United States Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) 
to discern the long term outcomes of PRC activities in Africa, which 
are intensive despite temporary decreases in financial lending and 
military engagement due to COVID-19. In itself, Chinese basing in 
Djibouti--or any future basing project--poses a marginal threat to 
United States interests on the continent. In the event of armed 
conflict, however, the PRC may leverage its expanded military footprint 
to project power against the United States, our allies, or global 
commerce. They already leverage their economic power in Africa to 
influence U.N. policy and protect their access to natural resources 
like minerals and fisheries. At least a third of the world's ships 
engaged in illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing--a 
problem that disproportionately harms African communities--are Chinese. 
Too often, Chinese companies harm African environments and peoples 
through irresponsible mining and harvesting operations that ignore 
sustainability and shun local stakeholders and job seekers.
    USAFRICOM does not offer any nation an ``us-or-them'' ultimatum. 
The PRC is on the continent to stay, and they fill a role in Africa's 
modernization. USAFRICOM does not seek to block the benefits that the 
PRC can bring to the continent's nations. Yet all nations must take a 
clear-eyed approach to dealing with the PRC. African nations must be 
equipped to enforce laws that protect their fisheries and mineral 
resources, ensuring the benefits of these national assets accrue first 
and foremost to their own peoples and economies. The long term outcomes 
of PRC activity in Africa will be an uneven mix of much-needed 
infrastructure, equipment, and trade alongside depleted natural 
resources, polluted ecosystems, corruption and deficient military 
hardware.
            humanitarian and environmental crises in africa
    Climate change-related crises and conflicts rank alongside Russia's 
war of choice in Ukraine as top catalysts of suffering for millions of 
Africans. Africa contributes a small fraction of the total greenhouse 
emissions, but changes in global temperature, combined with highly 
erratic precipitation, disproportionately hurt the continent. Climatic 
changes are accelerating the weather processes that create 
environmental disasters in Africa--partly by raising ocean 
temperatures. These rising temperatures are pressuring Africa's coastal 
fisheries, a crucial food source that is already pressured by 
overfishing. Rainfall patterns are also shifting. Last year, East 
Africa's current drought--its worst in 40 years--destroyed crops and 
livestock, displacing millions. Central and West Africa, by contrast, 
suffered deadly flooding that displaced millions more. The Lake Chad 
region saw its most intense rainfall in 3 decades. Flooding in southern 
Africa was largely due to a series of tropical storms from the Indian 
Ocean early last year, and we're seeing that trend continue this year. 
Desertification is constraining water and food resources in many parts 
of the continent, exacerbating interethnic fighting and interState 
friction.
    Tragic in their own right, climate-related shocks in Africa also 
foster broader population vulnerabilities. The protracted drought in 
East Africa exacerbated suffering amid a 2-year civil war in Ethiopia. 
Climate-related shocks in places with weak infrastructure lead to 
deadly infectious disease outbreaks, like the cholera outbreak Malawi 
is currently battling in the aftermath of a devastating cyclone. VEOs 
like al-Shabaab and Boko Haram have become adept at exploiting the 
consequences of humanitarian crises to recruit new members and degrade 
the legitimacy of African governments. The costs of climate change in 
Africa are numerous, devastating, and often unpredictable, but one 
thing is predictable: the price tag--in both human suffering and in 
dollars--will only grow in coming years.
                          what usafricom needs
    The security challenges of Africa are complex and dynamic. Only a 
whole-of-government strategy can maximize USAFRICOM's effectiveness and 
efficiency in securing American advantage and promoting African 
development. Therefore, the requirements of our three whole-of-
government tools--diplomacy, development, and defense--are intertwined 
and mutually supporting. One tool cannot succeed without the whole 
toolkit.
    Diplomacy is the first tool. Fully staffed and resourced diplomatic 
missions in Africa would multiply USAFRICOM's opportunities. Therefore, 
USAFRICOM appreciates Congress's work to confirm Ambassador nominees 
and increased staffing for embassies. This boosts our collective 
ability to implement development and counterterrorism programs under 
the U.S. Strategy to Prevent Conflict and Promote Stability. 
Congressional and Cabinet-level delegations to Africa go a long way to 
reassuring our partners of American commitment, as did the United 
States-Africa Leaders' Summit in December and two Cabinet member visits 
in January. USAFRICOM is a key node in protecting United States 
facilities in Africa, and out of the State Department's 31 designated 
high threat/high risk posts, 16 are under USAFRICOM's purview. 
Protecting our diplomatic engagements in conflict areas and preparing 
for short-notice military assisted departures of our diplomats is vital 
insurance for America's work on the continent. USAFRICOM lowers risk to 
American diplomatic missions by maintaining operational readiness to 
conduct hostage rescue, personnel recovery, and rapid response to 
large-scale emergencies. Yet the DOS-USAFRICOM tie runs far deeper. Our 
diplomats, defense attaches, and USAFRICOM military leaders work 
together daily to pursue a seamless policy on the continent.
    Development is the second tool. Three of the five designated 
beneficiaries of the United States Strategy to Prevent Conflict and 
Promote Stability are in Africa--Libya, Mozambique, and Coastal West 
Africa--but all of Africa needs development assistance. In contrast to 
Russia and the PRC, nearly 95 percent of America's annual assistance to 
Africa is delivered through grants to both government and non-
governmental organizations, not debt. Expanded funding flexibility 
would enable USAID to review, reorient, and respond to the ever-
changing constellation of African needs. USAFRICOM appreciates the 
support from Congress to USAID through its $11 billion per year purse 
focused on Africa. However, this funding is hamstrung by targeted 
allocation. In fiscal year 2021, over 95 percent of USAID's non-
humanitarian assistance funding was directed toward a specific 
allocation. Years in advance, no one can foresee and allocate funding 
for fleeting windows of opportunity to provide aid where Africans are 
most in need. USAFRICOM and its partners must be able to act quickly 
and decisively in response to rapidly changing security concerns and 
constraints; a sluggish response is harmful to both victims and 
America's standing as Africa's external partner of choice. Adversaries 
like al Qaeda and Wagner are fast and flexible in responding to 
opportunities, and USAID must have the agility to optimize its budget 
in ways that maximize America's decisive advantage. U.S. investments 
focused on stabilization, conflict prevention and peacebuilding, 
democracy, governance, economic growth and public health attack the 
roots of terrorism and tyranny more than bullets and air strikes ever 
will. Working together with DOS and USAID, we ensure America gets the 
credit for the United States tax dollars that flow to African needs. 
These dollars are a testament to the generosity of the American people 
and a critical piece of our informational competition with adversaries.
    Defense is the third tool in our whole-of-nation approach. The 
first key to defense is security cooperation because this is how we win 
against VEOs and strategic competitors alike. USAFRICOM engages in 
direct military-to-military engagement and collaborates on U.S. support 
to U.N. peacekeeping operations. USAFRICOM drives partner capacity 
building via train and equip programs and working closely with the DOS 
International Military Education and Training program. USAFRICOM 
administers DOS programs like Excess Defense Articles, Foreign Military 
Sales, and Foreign Military Financing. USAFRICOM is the face of United 
States security cooperation in Africa. If we do not continue to 
strengthen our African security cooperation, our partners on the 
continent will be more likely to pivot toward Russia and the PRC to 
meet their defense needs.
    The second key to defense is operational readiness, which USAFRICOM 
achieves by providing physical and informational spaces for African, 
international, and United States interagency partnerships to grow. 
USAFRICOM's headquarters is a hub of interconnectivity linking 
representatives from 13 U.S. Government departments and liaison 
officers from 18 countries. That number is even larger on the 
continent, where USAFRICOM's activities through Joint Task Forces in 
Djibouti, Somalia, and Niger bring even more nations together. 
Protecting these deployed troops is a sacred duty. To succeed in this 
duty, USAFRICOM needs the resources to provide timely rescue response 
and defend against the full spectrum of threats, including the alarming 
proliferation of weaponized unmanned aircraft systems. Last year, this 
Command deployed or put forces on alert over 20 times, and with unrest 
on the rise in West Africa, the demand for crisis response will also 
trend upwards.
    USAFRICOM works in concert with the U.S. State Department to 
facilitate direct training through Security Forces Assistance Brigades, 
the State Partnership Program (SPP) and health programs. All these 
efforts show high return for the investment in Africa and USAFRICOM 
stands ready to scale them up. This training works to modernize and 
professionalize African security forces that are desperately under-
resourced. All USAFRICOM training for partner forces emphasizes respect 
for human rights, law of armed conflict, avoidance of civilian 
casualties, and civilian control of the military. Our commitment to 
African forces will span decades. The United States National Guard 
Bureau's SPP connects Americans and Africans in ways that create long-
term ties of mutual benefit. Africa is fertile ground for SPP growth; 
we're seeing strong demand from both African partners and United States 
States. Sixteen partner nations currently pair with 14 State National 
Guards. Most recently, New Hampshire joined forces with Cabo Verde last 
year, and more partnership are in the works. These partnerships in 
Africa will yield long-term benefits in advancing our shared security 
and prosperity.
    Institution-building is central to the USAFRICOM contribution to 
our partners' defense. Through various engagement channels we assist 
African security forces and defense ministries establish and strengthen 
processes for logistics, financial reporting, and communications. Not 
only does this capacity building help our partners secure their 
borders, coastlines and vulnerable populations, it also enables many to 
take on the role of regional security anchors, providing security 
assistance to other partners and peacekeeping operations on the 
continent. USAFRICOM invests in a growing cadre of states that leverage 
United States military training to, in turn, train fellow African 
partners, multiplying USAFRICOM's efforts. USAFRICOM is doing this 
through multilateral exercises and USAFRICOM's Africa Distribution 
Network Forum, which enables the community of African and external 
partners to pool airlift logistics capabilities, creating financial 
efficiencies in supplying missions across a continent that is over 
three times the land mass of the continental United States.
    This Command is not alone. Our international partners--including 
Brazil, the European Union, France, Germany, Japan, South Korea, and 
the United Nations--bolster African partner forces maritime awareness 
and enforcement capabilities. African sea lines of communication are 
the highway of world commerce, but illicit income from IUU fishing, 
piracy, arms smuggling, wildlife trafficking, and human trafficking 
bankroll VEOs and enable narcotics flows through Africa to Europe and 
the Americas.
    Our partners in the Gulf of Guinea and the Horn of Africa need 
robust and interoperable maritime security infrastructure to protect 
their borders and marine resources. USAFRICOM engages and trains with 
coastal forces by leveraging two naval assets: the USS Hershel 
``Woody'' Williams and the USNS Trenton. The U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) 
augments these vessels with temporary cutter deployments; the USCG 
Cutter Mohawk made numerous port calls and patrols last year, and this 
year USCG Cutter Spencer flew Old Glory off Africa's West Coast. Our 
naval and coast guard ships in the USAFRICOM AOR reinforce America's 
friendship with littoral countries, bolster food security, and deter 
crime, including PRC-linked IUU fishing.
    USAFRICOM's challenges go beyond the African continent. Our 
headquarters staff stretches over two overseas locations: Kelley 
Barracks, Germany and RAF Molesworth, United Kingdom. USAFRICOM's 
component commands base in multiple European countries and in two 
enduring Forward Operating Sites in Africa: Camp Lemonnier, Djibouti, 
and Ascension Island. The Command also operates out of 12 other Posture 
Locations throughout Africa. These locations have minimal permanent 
United States presence, and have low-cost facilities and limited 
supplies for these dedicated Americans to perform critical missions and 
quickly respond to emergencies. With the exception of Special 
Operations Command-Africa, USAFRICOM's components are dual-hatted, 
dividing their time and assets between USAFRICOM and United States 
European Command (USEUCOM). USEUCOM's role in Ukraine's defense draws 
from the same resource pool as USAFRICOM requirements.
    To expand reach, USAFRICOM relies on developing deeper 
partnerships; National Guard involvement through the SPP; naval assets, 
including USCG deployments. Most of all, USAFRICOM needs to maintain 
funding and training for African partners that are poised to becoming 
regional security drivers in their own right. These partnerships have 
track records of producing consistent return on investment for 
America's security objectives in Africa.
                 conclusion: threats and opportunities
    USAFRICOM's priority is maximizing America's global advantage. The 
dangers in Africa- terrorism, strategic competitors, climate change, 
political conflict, and infectious disease--threaten the international 
community as much as they threaten our partners on the continent. These 
threats merge into a symbiosis that generates outcomes of violence, 
resource scarcity, State fragility, and unrealized economic potential. 
The only way to counter this toxic alliance is through the 
collaboration of a team of partners: sovereign African nations, the 
international community, and United States Government institutions. 
Africa remains a continent of opportunity. Its nations and peoples want 
freedom and democracy and a level economic playing field. These shared 
values underpin our ocean-crossing ties.
    The ties between Africa and our Nation date back to the Founding 
Fathers. After the Revolution, Morocco and Tunisia were among the first 
countries to sign treaties of friendship and trade with the United 
States, and today they are Major Non-NATO Allies and critical security 
partners for AFRICOM. Societies on both sides of the Atlantic continue 
to grapple with the painful past of a vast African slave trade. 
USAFRICOM seeks to secure a bright future by fostering positive 
outcomes for Africans and Americans alike. To keep terrorists out of 
the Homeland, we must fight them in Africa. To compete effectively with 
strategic adversaries, we must do it in Africa. To protect the flanks 
of our neighboring Geographic Combatant Commands, we must do it in 
Africa. To energize the world's struggle for human rights, individual 
liberty, the rule of law, democratic governance, and free commerce, we 
must do it in Africa. In this struggle, USAFRICOM and our partners are 
on the job.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Langley. 
General Kurilla, you have rightly emphasized the critical 
importance of leveraging allies and partners to counter threats 
from Iran and Iranian linked groups.
    Does our posture change with respect to the new agreement 
between Saudi Arabia and Iran, and how will it impact our 
allies in the region or across the globe?
    General Kurilla. Thank you, Chairman. Appreciate that 
question. This agreement between Iran and Saudi Arabia is the 
culmination really of 3 years of discussions that have been 
going on, but just recently by China.
    I would say an agreement is not implementation. While these 
discussions were going on, in the last 90 days, we have 
interdicted five major weapons shipments coming from Iran to 
Yemen, which those weapons are then used against Saudi Arabia.
    One of those shipments included components of navigation 
systems for short range ballistic missiles. Again, I think the 
implementation is a completely different matter on this.
    Chairman Reed. Will China be held accountable by the Saudis 
if they cannot limit attacks against the kingdom and weapon 
transfers, as you described?
    General Kurilla. I think that remains to be seen, Chairman. 
What is concerning on this is China's penetration into the 
region. In the national instruments of power, they already have 
their economic in the region, their information, their military 
with the increase in sales of at least 80 percent over the last 
10 years in terms of their foreign military sales. Now we are 
seeing for the first time really their diplomatic.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. General Langley, you mentioned 
the presence of the Wagner group in Africa and their behavior, 
which is contrary to any decency at all in the world.
    How are we trying, through the information domain, to 
expose them and what they are doing, and also obviously expose 
the Russian Government that is supporting them and sponsoring 
them?
    General Langley. Chairman, from the mil-to-mil perspective 
in engagement with our partners, we do use information 
operations to effect and address the negative sentiment in 
their message, that destabilizes in countries in which they 
enmeshed themselves in, especially in Mali.
    That is very--has been very much present, that they have 
this destabilizing activities. It has been--it is reinforced by 
the United Nation force there, illuminating and amplifying some 
of the atrocities that the Wagner Group is guilty of. So 
therein lies the whole-of-government approach.
    Since I don't have mil to mil, because of sanctions at this 
point, but we still have a whole Government approach that can 
take that mantle and still be able to do information 
operations.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. General Kurilla, when we spoke 
about China, we also speak about Russia.
    The aid that Iran is giving to Russia now in the Ukraine 
fight and what would presumably be the reciprocation by the 
Russians in many different ways is another factor that has 
recently emerged.
    What is your response to that? What advice can you give to 
us, and how can we limit this--the impact of this arrangement?
    General Kurilla. Chairman, thank you for the question on 
that. It is very concerning any time we see adversaries working 
together. We do know that they have shipped hundreds of their 
advanced unmanned aerial vehicles to the Ukraine.
    These are the same ones that have hit our servicemembers in 
both Iraq and in Syria. They are improving upon them based on 
what they are learning inside the Ukraine. I am concerned then 
with the support that Russia can give back.
    As you know, the Iran State media announced the approval 
of--don't know the exact number yet what will come out of the 
agreement, but the Su-35 is a fourth generation plus fighter, 
which has a lot of our partners in the region concerned as 
well.
    Chairman Reed. What types of steps are you contemplating or 
we should be contemplating to try to disrupt or diminish this 
threat that is emerging?
    General Kurilla. Chairman, I think this will take a whole-
of-government approach to include all of the instruments of 
national power on this to be able to prevent that.
    Chairman Reed. With respect to the Iranian nuclear program, 
they have made significant steps since the termination of the 
JCPOA [Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action]. Is there any 
indication that either Russia or China would encourage them, 
sponsor them, or on the other hand, discourage them from moving 
further?
    General Kurilla. Chairman, I will be able to talk about 
that in the classified session immediately following this.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General. Thank you 
both. Again, thank the men and women. Glad to see the Master 
Chief is here, so you are well supervised, General Kurilla. 
Thank you very much. Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let's stay with 
Iran, General Kurilla. You can tell us in a non-classified 
setting, can't you, whether the threat from Iran has grown 
stronger or lesser in the past 2 years.
    General Kurilla. Iran's malign behavior has increased in 
the last 2 years, Senator.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and what do you need from the 
Congress of the United States to meet this threat?
    General Kurilla. As we look at the threat mainly that we 
face is the ballistic missile and their UAV threat in the 
region. One of the ways that we are countering that is through 
regional agreements and a regional architecture.
    As we go toward an integrated air and missile defense in 
the region, we are making progress on that. So, what we need is 
the continued resourcing, and I want to make sure that I have a 
sufficient and sustainable posture in CENTCOM so that I can 
accomplish the missions I have been given to make sure I can 
mitigate the risk. If there is one area in the world, I believe 
that can derail the National Defense Strategy, it is that 
currently the CENTCOM AOR.
    Senator Wicker. The resources to help you facilitate these 
agreements?
    General Kurilla. It is the resources, Senator.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Will--help us be specific about that. 
Now, after the disastrous Afghan withdrawal, the Departments 
assured this Committee that countering terrorist groups would 
still be possible over the horizon. We have only done that 
once. Is that correct?
    General Kurilla. Senator, we--actually all kinetic--all 
finishes in the methodology of find, fix, and finish on 
counterterrorism targets are not kinetic. There is two that are 
non-kinetic that we disrupted and I will talk about that in 
setting that involved over five combatant commanders to disrupt 
those finishes.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, so two non-kinetic and one kinetic.
    General Kurilla. Right.
    Senator Wicker. Do you think we should be doing more of 
those?
    General Kurilla. It is difficult right now, as I said in my 
confirmation hearing. It is a difficult but not impossible. One 
of the things that we are trying to do is increase our 
intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance over that.
    We are putting an investment into long duration, high 
altitude, alternative airborne ISR [intelligence, surveillance, 
and reconnaissance] that can go up for days and weeks, because 
right now I am spending 80 percent of my time transiting to the 
region to be able to collect over the top.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. General Langley, tell us what China 
is doing. How far along are they on their base in Djibouti? 
Where do you think they might likely be making their strongest 
effort for a military base in West Africa?
    General Langley. Thank you, Senator, for that question. 
China's aspirations, especially at Doraleh, they are coming 
across a thinly veiled front that is all for goodwill. But we 
know that they are establishing, especially with the destroyer 
that visited Doraleh last March, shows that they have 
indications that----
    Senator Wicker. Tell us where that is.
    General Langley. Duraleh is in Djibouti. I am sorry. 
Ranking Member, their aspirations are pretty clear. That is a 
strategic line of communication, especially as it embarks upon 
the Suez Canal and Bab-el-Mandeb, if they wanted to fully 
militarize that. Duraleh is of concern.
    They are saying it is all about goodwill, but I think the 
other. They do have other aspirations, and in closed session, 
Ranking Member, I know that I can be able to lay that out where 
in West Africa is their next military base aspiration.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, but tell us then if you can, and I 
think you can, how that would affect our security as Americans, 
and particularly to North America, if the Chinese are able to 
establish a base in West Africa.
    General Langley. It would put us--it would change the whole 
calculus of the geostrategic global campaign plans of 
protecting the Homeland. It would shorten--if they build any 
capacity on the West Coast, geostrategically it will put them 
at an advantage. Right now, we have the decisive advantage. 
They cannot--we can't let them have a base on the West Coast 
because it would change the dynamics.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Thank you, Senator 
Wicker. Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Generals Kurilla, Langley, 
thank you both for being here this morning. General Kurilla, I 
want to pick up on a conversation that we had when we met a 
couple of weeks ago, and I appreciated that opportunity.
    One of the things we talked about was the situation in the 
ISIS detainee camps in Syria. Can you give us an update on what 
the current conditions are and what you are doing in CENTCOM to 
help destabilize what is happening there, and what you need 
from us in order for us to be more successful there?
    General Kurilla. Thanks, Senator. I have been to Syria six 
times. I was in Syria last week. As we look at ISIS in Syria, 
it has three categories. The first category is ISIS at large. 
That is the ones that we are fighting right now with our Syrian 
Democratic partners, and I think we have contained ISIS, but 
the ideology is uncontained and unconstrained.
    The second category is what you may refer to as the ISIS in 
detention. I refer to them as an ISIS army in detention. There 
are over 10,000 ISIS detainees spread across 26 different 
prisons in Northeast Syria. I went inside the Hasaka prison 
last Thursday.
    That is the same prison that January 2022, last year, there 
was 4,400 ISIS detainees in there. They broke out. Over 1,000 
made it outside the walls. In a 10-day battle that involved 
both our United States forces, air power, and Syrian democratic 
forces, over 400 were killed. Some escaped, the exact number 
unknown, and then the rest were captured.
    But 121 of our SDF [Syria Democratic Forces] partners were 
killed in that prison breakout. What we are doing specifically 
about the detention facilities is we are trying to consolidate 
them now. This body provided funding for us to build another 
prison, which we think can consolidate the vast majority of the 
rest of the prisoners.
    We also train the guards that are on these detention 
facilities and the CTF [counter-terrorist financing] funds help 
facilitate that. The last category is the potential next 
generation of ISIS. I had an opportunity to go into the Al Roj 
camp and into Al Hol inside and talk to residents. I talked to 
women from 16 different countries last week inside the camp to 
include the woman from Alabama.
    I also went inside the Al Hol camp and I met three 
teenagers who had been there for 6 years, and remember, ISIS 
really didn't come to Al Hol until about late 2018. These were 
people that went there to escape ISIS and escape the regime.
    With the fall of ISIS's territorial caliph in really March 
2019, it swelled from about 35,000 to 70,000, and currently 
right now there is about 51,000 inside of Al Hol. Over 30,000 
of them are children, and they are at risk from radicalization.
    About 50 percent of the camp holds or espouses some form of 
ideology, according to the camp guards, the camp 
administrators, and the residents, and the other half are 
trying to escape ISIS.
    Really, the only role there is that we can do, is there is 
no military solution, is the repatriation, rehabilitation, and 
reintegration back into the society.
    Senator Shaheen. Are we having any luck getting some of the 
countries to repatriate those detainees who came from their 
countries?
    General Kurilla. Absolutely, ma'am. We have actually had 
more success in the first few months of this year than the last 
6 months of last year. About half of those IDPs [internally 
displaced people] that are in Al Hol are from Iraq.
    We work with our Iraqi security partners in the Iraqi 
Government to repatriate them. They have done 1,200 in the last 
2 months. At that pace, it would be about 4 years to get 
everybody back. So, we are working with them on how they can 
increase the throughput.
    But right now, it is their ability to go through the Jeddah 
1 camp, which is South of Mosul, as they bring them back. What 
they don't want to do is just move one IDP camp to another, so 
they are working through that process.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Well, I hope you will let this 
Committee know if there are additional resources or other 
supports that you need. General Langley, the map of Africa 
shows where the Wagner Group is operating, but it doesn't speak 
to the success or not that they are having with recruitment.
    Can you speak to that, and maybe Senator Reed asked about 
the success that information or disinformation efforts that 
they have underway. Can you also talk about what we are doing 
to respond to that in a little more detail?
    General Langley. Senator, first and foremost, I mean, talk 
about Wagners intentions. They are all about power and profit. 
If they are going to give a false offering of security, it is 
only for the elites in a particular country.
    We are seeing that in Mali. Wagner failed in Mozambique. 
They tried to entrench upon it, and that government, albeit 
developing, did not like that false value proposition. They 
have continuing actions in Dakar, a Central African Republic. 
In that vein, I think Central African Republic is kind of 
getting fed up.
    So, there is no recruiting going on. It is all about 
profit, making their way to gold mines, diamond mines, or rare 
earth mineral mines. That is extension of the Russian 
Federation.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I will submit a question for 
the record on the disinformation efforts.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here today and thank you for your service to our 
country. General Kurilla, how long would it take ISIS-K to 
generate the capability to conduct external operations?
    General Kurilla. Specifically, ISIS-Khorasan, Senator? It 
is my Commander's estimate that they can do an external 
operation against U.S. or Western interests abroad in under 6 
months with little to no warning. In the classified session, I 
will talk about why I make that assessment. It is much harder 
for them to be able to do that against the Homeland.
    Senator Fischer. Senator Wicker talked to you quite a bit 
about over the horizon and our capabilities that we have there, 
or don't have there in Afghanistan. Do you think that you need 
any additional resources in our upcoming budget to increase or 
improve those capabilities?
    General Kurilla. We have been funded, like I said, for some 
alternative airborne ISR that will help us get longer duration. 
But it is not just about ISR. We are also increasing our other 
intelligence efforts to get penetration into the networks that 
we want.
    A part that goes unseen a lot of times is the analytical 
back side. These are the analysts, the linguists, and the 
production capability that help us make the decisions. There 
has been a significant decrease shifted from the NDS [National 
Defense Strategy] to go against higher priority targets, but I 
would like to see to make sure that we don't lose so much of 
that capability that we cannot see the threat.
    Senator Fischer. Because knowing that threat is obviously 
very important, as you have stated, for the existence that we 
still see in Afghanistan of the terrorist groups that are 
there.
    General Kurilla. Correct, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Have you requested authority to 
conduct any strikes in Afghanistan against the ISIS-K targets 
that have been identified?
    General Kurilla. In a classified study, ma'am, I can talk 
about where we are in terms of the find, fix, and finish on 
them.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Do you still have a need for 
munitions that can hit hard in deeply buried targets?
    General Kurilla. I do, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Do you have specific requests in that 
area?
    General Kurilla. That was in my unfunded priority list 
(UPL) last year.
    Senator Fischer. Do you plan to include it this year?
    General Kurilla. It depends on the full funding, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Would it be your recommendation and your 
best military advice to this Committee that it would be--that 
it should be included?
    General Kurilla. We did receive funding in my fiscal year 
2023 to include the additional procurement of the--its the 
Massive Automated Ordinance Penetrator, which goes against 
hardened, deeply buried targets.
    Senator Fischer. Which are growing in number with our 
adversaries. Is that correct?
    General Kurilla. That is correct, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. What is your assessment of Iran and Saudi 
Arabia reestablishing diplomatic ties? You talked about that a 
little bit. But how does that affect our mil-to-mil 
relationships that we have with Saudi Arabia?
    General Kurilla. We have a very strong mil-to-mil 
relationship with Saudi Arabia. I think this agreement is, 
again, is the culmination of 3 years of talks between them. The 
more concerning part is that China is the one that was 
mediating this.
    Senator Fischer. As we look at Iran and their proxies 
throughout CENTCOM AOR, do they continue to pose a significant 
threat to our partners and to our own forces in the region? 
What more can be done to deter Iran from those malign 
activities?
    General Kurilla. We see Iran as the largest malign actor in 
the region. Less than 60 hours ago, we had rockets attacked 
from Iranian aligned militia group against one of our bases in 
Syria.
    Senator Fischer. What more can be done to deter them?
    General Kurilla. One of the things that we are doing is 
increasing our defensive posture in these areas. I want to 
thank the services for providing a capability. So particularly 
the Army has given us some tremendous capability in terms of 
counter-UAS and counter rocket mortar at our bases.
    Senator Fischer. With Syria and Iraq, what do you assess to 
be the situation in Syria right now? Have you seen any change 
in Russia's presence in Syria, or has that remained pretty 
steady since the invasion of Ukraine?
    General Kurilla. Senator, Syria is very important to 
Russia. They have taken very little out of Russia since their 
invasion. They have taken a small number of forces, some 
munitions, but generally has stayed about the same. What we are 
seeing, though, is an increase recently in the unprofessional 
and unsafe behavior of the Russian air force in the region.
    Senator Fischer. Can you give us an example of that here?
    General Kurilla. I can. They fly over our bases with ground 
attack aircraft with weapons on them in an attempt to try and 
be provocative. But really, it is unsafe, unprofessional, not 
what we expect of a professional air force. They want to try 
and renegotiate the deconfliction protocols that they violate 
every day.
    Senator Fischer. This is not new Russian behavior, is it, 
sir? Especially with regard to the drone incident that we 
recently have seen.
    General Kurilla. It is not new, but we have seen a 
significant spike since about March 1, in Syria.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    General Kurilla. Thank you, ma'am.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator 
Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like 
to continue Senator Fisher's line of questions with regard to 
Iran. If this was a 3 year of talks, how recent was China 
engaged in those talks?
    General Kurilla. Ma'am, I understand that it is in the last 
several months.
    Senator Gillibrand. Well, obviously, that raises serious 
concerns, because I just took--I just joined a delegation to 
visit the Abraham Accords countries, and the interest of those 
countries, UAE [United Arab Emirates], Bahrain, Morocco and 
Israel, is to broaden and strengthen the Abraham Accords, and 
they were hopeful that they could engage Saudi Arabia in that 
context.
    This seems to me that that would make that extremely 
problematic, because if China is involved, it would be very 
difficult to have the kind of technology shared in the Abraham 
Accords if they are now in alliance with China.
    Second, if they are in an alliance with Iran, the whole 
point of the Abraham Accords is to counter Iran's malign 
threats. So, does this make the possibility of extending or 
expanding the Abraham Accords impossible? What do you recommend 
that this Committee do to focus on how we create more regional 
alliances?
    General Kurilla. Ma'am, I believe this is a--the talks 
about opening diplomatic relations so much as this is not an 
alliance between Saudi Arabia and Iran. They have had 
diplomatic relations in the past while they were still shooting 
at each other in the past.
    This is really about opening embassies and opening 
diplomatic relations when they closed the embassies back in 
2016. What this does do, though, is that with China, the most 
concerning part about this is that China is the one brokering 
this because it shows that they are bringing the diplomatic 
aspect of their national instruments of power.
    What we see with China on the military side is that they 
have a significant increase in bringing their equipment into 
the region and their foreign military sales. If there is 
Chinese equipment there, we cannot integrate it with United 
States equipment.
    As we try and build the regional partnerships, and we have 
been there for the last 75 years, when we try and build these 
regional partnerships. You want to be able to integrate with 
your partner. If there is Chinese equipment there, we are not 
going to be able to integrate it.
    Senator Gillibrand. Understood. Can you, in this setting, 
give us more detail on where China has integrated its equipment 
in the region?
    General Kurilla. China has sold equipment all over the 
region inside the Middle East. I can take that for the record 
and give you a specific followup for that, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. Do you have a focused plan on what to 
do about that?
    General Kurilla. One of this is to increase our partnership 
with these elements. Again, this is a race to integrate before 
China can penetrate.
    Senator Gillibrand. Would you recommend expanding and 
deepening the Abraham Accords?
    General Kurilla. I would, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. With regard to Afghanistan, 
I would like an update on what we are doing to get our partners 
out and whether those operations are continuing, and what are 
the barriers that you are facing currently.
    General Kurilla. Ma'am, the getting the partners out 
through special immigrant visas. That is a State Department run 
program. But from the United States, from the military side, we 
are responsible for bringing them into a place called Camp As 
Sayliyah in Qatar.
    We currently have about 2,600 there right now. We provide 
the in processing, the security, and the basic life support. 
The State Department runs the actual immigrant visa side. They 
are averaging about 60 days there before they are moved on.
    In my understanding right now in the pipeline is about 
85,000 special immigrant visas, but I would defer to the State 
Department on the exact number.
    Senator Gillibrand. Again, with regard to Iran, we know 
that Russia and Iran have escalated their military cooperation 
over the last year. How is CENTCOM coordinating with EUCOM 
[European Command] to ensure that our forces are able to 
respond to threats that touch both areas of responsibilities?
    General Kurilla. I talked to Chris Cavoli often, the EUCOM 
Commander in the SACEUR [Supreme Allied Commander, Europe]. We 
have done several operations that I can talk about in a 
classified setting to create additional dilemmas for Russia.
    Senator Gillibrand. My last question for you, sir, is you 
activated the U.S. Space Force Central, which is responsible 
for space operations within the CENTCOM area of responsibility. 
How are you incorporating the space domain into planning and 
training so that your subordinate commanders can effectively 
integrate space into their operations?
    General Kurilla. We think this is a very big positive of 
actually having a component of Space Force. Space has always 
played a large role in the CENTCOM AOR, but now I have a 
Commander that sits at the table that is able to then integrate 
more effectively because he has a seat at the table to be able 
to do that.
    We actually just finished a large with all the Combatant 
Commands in the region to talk about the lessons we have 
learned over the last decade of doing space operations in 
CENTCOM.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. General Langley, despite the 
size and growing importance of the continent, the 21st century 
wars in CENTCOM, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and the 
strategic competition with China have dominated much of our 
focus on this Committee. What might we be missing about Africa 
that you think this Committee should take note of in the coming 
years?
    General Langley. Senator, I would say just aspirations of 
China. The aspirations of China is threefold, one from a 
geopolitical. They are trying to change the international norms 
and they are using some of the African countries within the 
U.N. construct, whether it be General Assembly or the Security 
Council, trying to affect votes to change those international 
norms and the international system writ large.
    Then there is the geostrategic operation. Their aspiration 
for military bases on the continent of Africa. Just talked to 
my African partners, they don't want to be militarized in a 
strategic sense.
    The last piece, Senator, is geoeconomic. Our future economy 
is dependent upon a number of rare earth minerals. Some of our 
clean energy technologies depend upon the rare earth minerals. 
About 30 to 40 percent of those minerals are on the continent 
of Africa. That is forward thinking by the PRC.
    They are trying to harvest and leverage upon that through 
shaky deals, engaging with some of these countries so they can 
corner a market, if you will. That is what I am concerned 
about, Senator. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Welcome, gentlemen. General Kurilla, I want 
to return to your answer to Senator Fischer about the threat of 
terrorist attacks originating from Afghanistan. If I heard you 
right, you said you believe that such attacks could occur in a 
mere 6 months out of Afghanistan against American citizens or 
allies or partners in Eurasia. Is that right?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I said abroad, which I would also 
include Europe in that.
    Senator Cotton. Eurasia. But you said less than--more than 
that against the American Homeland.
    General Kurilla. It would be harder for them to do that 
against the American Homeland.
    Senator Cotton. If you assessed 6 months against Europe or 
Asia, what would you assess would be the timeline against the 
Homeland?
    General Kurilla. I think it is hard to put a timeline on 
that. But again, I assess that they could in as little as 6 
months with little to no warning, and I will talk about that in 
the closed session as to why assess that.
    Senator Cotton. How likely do you think a terrorist attack 
on the United States or one of our allies is originating from 
Afghanistan?
    General Kurilla. I think it is a higher probability 
overseas than it is in the Homeland.
    Senator Cotton. When you add up all the troops you have in 
your area-of-responsibility and American citizens who are there 
for business or tourism or pilgrimages on any given day, what 
are we talking about? Probably hundreds of thousands, right?
    General Kurilla. At least.
    Senator Cotton. Hundreds of thousands within range of a 
terrorist attack, in your assessment, in a mere 6 months from 
Afghanistan. Okay, I want to turn to Iran.
    Senator Wicker. I don't think we heard the answer.
    General Kurilla. Yes, I do assess it.
    Senator Cotton. I want to turn to Iran. You said in your 
written statement they can produce sufficient fissile material 
for a nuclear weapon in less than 14 days. You also say that 
deterring Iran is arguably more urgent now than any time in 
CENTCOM's history due to one, their cutting-edge missile and 
UAV capability. Two, their uranium enrichment program. That is 
correct?
    General Kurilla. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Yet you also say Iran is undeterred from 
its malign activities. So that is not good. That it is more 
urgent to deter them than in any time in Central Command's 
history, but they are undeterred. Why is Iran undeterred right 
now?
    General Kurilla. Currently, right now we see them, that 
their malign activity is increasing. We see them again in the 
last 90 days. We have some of the highest numbers of our 
advanced conventional weapons and munitions that we have seen 
going from Iran to Yemen.
    We see their attacks on our United States forces in Iraq 
and Syria increasing, and we see the threat streams that I can 
talk about in a higher classification.
    Senator Cotton. I mean, those are more the results of the 
lack of deterrence against Iran. Do they feel undeterred 
because they feel safe that neither the United States or our 
partners are going to threaten anything they hold dear?
    General Kurilla. I can't say the exact reason why they feel 
that, but I know right now when I look at them, I believe they 
are undeterred.
    Senator Cotton. I mean, there is a history--you are right 
throughout your statement. There is a history of Iran being 
deterred by the credible threat of military force or actual 
military force. That is right, isn't it?
    General Kurilla. I think that deterrence is always 
temporal, so you can deter for a period of time and then it 
will wane. I do believe the Suleimani strike was a deterrence.
    Senator Cotton. We can go back much further than that. Iran 
waged war with Iraq for 8 years and Ronald Reagan sunk half 
their navy in the spring of 1988, and surprisingly, that war 
ended just a few months later.
    Iran also stopped its enrichment program in 2003, after the 
United States had invaded and toppled governments on both its 
East and its Western border. Then, as you say, they took only 
very tentative steps toward higher enrichment in 2019.
    After we killed Kassam Soleimani, they did nothing at all 
for most of 2020 is that right?
    General Kurilla. They--it was a higher level of deterrence 
after that.
    Senator Cotton. Last week on the Intelligence Committee, we 
had our annual worldwide threats briefing and the director of 
National Intelligence cited the killing of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh, 
a notorious Iranian nuclear scientist, in November 2020, as the 
reason Iran accelerated its enrichment program. Do you agree 
with that assessment?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I think any talk of the Iran 
nuclear program would be best in a classified setting.
    Senator Cotton. I pointed out there is also something that 
happened in November 2020 besides the killing of Mohseh 
Fakhrizadeh that might have emboldened Iran, and that was the 
election of Joe Biden that gave the Iranians confidence that 
they were no longer going to be held militarily at risk.
    Speaking of that timeframe, I think it was December 2020, 
didn't we face threats to our personnel in Iraq from militias 
and the Former President tweeted what he called some friendly 
health advice to the Ayatollahs that if a single American was 
harmed in Iraq, he would hold them responsible?
    General Kurilla. I am not familiar with that specific 
tweet.
    Senator Cotton. That did happen. It is okay. There are a 
lot of them. You don't have to be familiar with every one of 
them. But I also don't think those attacks happened. So, I 
think what we can learn here whether it's from Kassim Soleimani 
or the tanker wars or anything else, that the only thing that 
will deter Iran is the credible threat of military force.
    One final question, I know you have added Israel to your 
AOR, and you right in your statement that you readily partner 
today with Arab militaries and the Israel Defense Force alike. 
In fact, the inclusion of Israel presents many collaborative 
and constructive security opportunities.
    One of the opportunities I see is having Israeli Air Force 
personnel training alongside American personnel on KC-46 
tankers, which we expect to be providing them in the future, 
and that is training that we can provide them so they will be 
ready to operate those aircraft as soon as they get them.
    Do you think that would be what you call a collaborative 
and constructive opportunity between the United States and 
Israel?
    General Kurilla. I think when they get closer to getting 
their aircraft, starting to train those pilots so they can 
retain that training and go right into the execution of 
operating them.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to 
turn to another part of your missions. In both Central Command 
and in Africa Command, United States diplomatic efforts are--
diplomatic efforts are at the forefront of your missions. The 
military-to-military engagement is one very important aspect of 
your responsibilities, but your organizations are just one part 
of a whole-of-government approach.
    General Langley, I note your team's work in implementing 
the 2017 Women Peace and Security Act. Amid the many extremist 
threats in both of your areas of operations, it is more 
important than ever, as far as I am concerned, to work for 
equality for women and girls around the world. Generals, how 
are your commands supporting and protecting women and girls in 
your AOR?
    General Langley. Senator, thanks for that question. As 
Women's Peace and Security Act passed in 2017, I have seen from 
afar what AFRICOM has started to do. We didn't wait for the 
plan or the construct over years.
    CENTCOM--excuse me, AFRICOM got after it. I saw this 
because I was at CENTCOM and I was at the J5, and we got out 
there as well at that time. But how far that CENTCOM and 
AFRICOM has gone in the vein of the intent of women's peace and 
security--Senator, I would like to just make note, we have it--
we have been to our Africa campaign plan to effect in working 
with the Department of Defense to finish out the construct.
    But we just didn't--we didn't wait for the word to go. Just 
for your information, Senator, across the Horn of Africa, our 
JTF [joint task force], we have a Major General Shawley, and 
she is affected that in every exercise that we do all the way 
down from Djibouti down to Kenya.
    Even her, Valerie Jackson, Brigadier General, the United 
States + Corps, as they work with other countries, they get it. 
President Assad Sheik Mohammed sees a representation of our 
talent base in our military and in our U.S. military, that 50 
percent of the talent base are women, and they are showing that 
it is effective.
    It is--and for partners on the African continent, they 
realize that. So, it is changing culture.
    Senator Hirono. General, I think we have to be very 
intentional about the support we provide to women and girls, 
because wherever there is instability, and certainly both of 
your AORs are characterized by what I would call instability, 
women and girls are the ones who bear the brunt of the 
challenges. General Langley, would you like to add to what 
General Kurilla said? Because you are doing a, I would say, a 
pretty good job.
    General Kurilla. Ma'am I think----
    Senator Hirono. Please.
    General Kurilla. Ma'am, I think you are referring to me on 
that. So, the--I value the program.
    Senator Hirono. I am sorry. Yes, I was referring to you, 
General Langley. Go ahead.
    General Langley. Yes, Senator. In execution, as we work 
with even in the West in our exercises, we ensure that we do 
represent and within the spirit and a letter of intent, of the 
Act of WPS [women, peace, and security], that we--that our 
partners ensure that their culture is changing and women and 
girls get meaningful opportunities within the overall 
governance and society.
    That is why I brought up Major General Shawley as she makes 
her travels across. They see that America gets it and they 
start to get it as well. It is very compelling, Senator.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. General Langley, further 
question for you. You noted in your testimony the climate as a 
challenge in Africa. Can you describe the destabilizing impact 
of climate change on African nations and what we can do to 
counter this impact, or these impacts?
    General Langley. Absolutely, Senator. That is a driver of 
instability, especially with irregular patterns across the 
Sahel. We are seeing that. Across a whole-of-government 
approach as I work with USAID, I would say just more 
flexibility, trying to predict where the effects are going to 
go.
    We need to stay ahead of this, and that is why 
Administrator power is action for non-humanitarian actions, so 
she can move resources, so we can address the effects of 
climate change, because it is hard to predict. Even the USAID 
being an evidence-based organization can't predict where the 
next, 2 years out, where the next atrocity is going to happen 
as a result of climate change.
    There needs to be flexibility across State Department and 
USAID, then backed up by military, by building a capability, 
adaptability within our partners and our military so they can 
go out and assist the affected people as a result of climate 
change.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. Mr. Chairman, I am particularly 
interested in what we are doing to counter climate change 
impacts in Africa, because I agree that this is a very 
destabilizing situation. So, I will continue to pursue 
inquiries along these lines. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Rounds, 
please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, first 
of all, thank you both for your service to our country and to 
your teams as well. A question for both of you.
    With regard to our country's refocus with regard to the 
threat that we see from both the other major powers in the 
world, specifically China, Russia to some degree as well, what 
impact has that had in terms of the discussion and the clear 
evidence that we have turned from literally more than 20 years 
of fighting terrorism to where we are now focusing on this 
major power competition.
    What is the impact in terms of the countries within your 
AORs, and how are they perceiving the United States interest in 
your regions of the world? General Kurilla.
    General Kurilla. Senator, we are concerned. Again, as I 
said, this is about a race between integration with our 
partners and Chinese penetration into the region. There has 
been a significant increase both in their economic $460 billion 
in infrastructure development in the last 5 years, $2.6 
trillion in trade.
    Really, we see their military capability where they are 
trying to sell military equipment and foreign military sales. 
In the last 10 years, we have seen a 30 percent decline in the 
United States, but an 80 percent increase in Chinese on foreign 
military sales. When they buy a Chinese system, we cannot 
integrate it into our systems.
    Senator Rounds. General Langley.
    General Langley. Senator, as Eric just alluded to, we had 
the same effects on the continent as well, as far as 
investments by--from a military standpoint, both the PRC and 
Russia. How we partner--that really segways into the main issue 
as far as how slow our 333 program of our arm, train, and equip 
our partners. So, they do know that they have choices.
    Now, as we saw down in South Africa, they want to show the 
world that they have choices and that is why they had Mosi II 
exercise. But up in our partners in the Gulf of Guinea region, 
they are pressurized by all kinds of--by extremist 
organizations threatening their borders.
    They come in, they asked, and they said, hey, General 
Langley, we don't want your boots on the ground. We want your 
equipment. We need help so we can put up a good fight and take 
care of these violent extremist organization across all the 
affiliates.
    But as slow as our processes are, we have 333 and also 332, 
our other title 10 authorities is moving to slow, Senator. Just 
moving too slow, and they make the wrong decisions.
    Senator Rounds. Let's dive into that just a little bit more 
for both of you. The foreign military sales, or FMS, is a 
critical part of our foreign policy. It requires not just the 
availability but also the approval process. Could each of you 
share with me your opinion about the approval process and 
whether or not there needs to be a more expedited process in 
order to allow us to continue with FMS? General Kurilla.
    General Kurilla. Senator, they say about 95 percent of all 
FMS goes according to plan. Five percent doesn't, 80 percent of 
those 5 percent are in the CENTCOM AOR. The challenge we have 
is the time it takes to get equipment to our partners.
    There is the DOD, Department of State, Congress, and 
industry all have a role in that. But what China does is they 
come in, they open their entire catalog, they give them express 
shipping, they give them no end user agreement, and they give 
them financing, which at the end of the day can end up being 
some type of predatory financing.
    But they are much faster to need, and our security partners 
have real security needs and we are losing our ability to 
provide our equipment so that it can integrate into the region.
    Senator Rounds. They would prefer to have our equipment, 
wouldn't they?
    General Kurilla. Absolutely. When you buy U.S. equipment, 
you buy--you get the quality, you get the training, the 
sustainment, the upgrades, but you are also buying into the 
bureaucracy, right now.
    Senator Rounds. They just can't get it because of our 
bureaucratic processes is delaying the delivery of that 
product. If it is available, it is still a bureaucratic mess to 
get it there.
    General Kurilla. There is some that goes very fast and some 
that goes very, very slow.
    Senator Rounds. General Langley.
    General Langley. Absolutely, Senator. We see that just all 
along, and I fully concur with Eric about our training and the 
capacity is more of a quality. But the sense of urgency, 
especially in West Africa, across the Sahel, across Ghana, Cote 
d'Ivoire and Benin, and Togo, they need equipment. They need 
weapons now.
    So even with our significant security cooperation 
initiatives, that process is not any faster. It is designed to 
be faster, so they make choices, and they make the wrong 
choices in siding with--going with either PRC or Russia for 
especially lethal aid.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator Warren, 
please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Biden 
administration announced last week that it is requesting $842 
billion for the Pentagon budget. It is one of the largest 
budget requests ever.
    Despite this already massive number, every year DOD pushes 
to get even more money by using unfunded priority lists or what 
I call wish lists that don't go through the other budgeting 
screens. The services and Combatant Commands ask Congress for 
billions more in funding for programs from these lists.
    Other Federal agencies have to balance their must haves and 
their nice to haves, but DOD doesn't. Instead, it games the 
system by submitting a second list of items that they want so 
that their budget can grow even bigger. I know that there are 
colleagues on both sides of the aisle who are concerned about 
this and want to see this practice stop.
    Last year, both your predecessors at AFRICOM and CENTCOM 
submitted these wish lists. So, what I am asking today is about 
whether you plan to do the same. General Langley, AFRICOM 
requested an additional $353.6 million in unfunded priorities 
last year.
    In its submission, AFRICOM argued that if some of these 
programs weren't funded, it would result in, ``unacceptable 
risk.'' So, my question is, this year will AFRICOM be putting 
all of its priority projects, if it is that important, if it is 
putting us at unacceptable risk, will you put that into your 
base budget request?
    General Langley. Senator, and just be transparent, I will 
be submitting an unfunded priority list and here is why. 
Because of the emerging threats. When President Biden directed 
us back in last May to return to our persistent presence in 
Somalia, and I took command a few months after that.
    I asked, being a former programmer, I said, okay, what is 
the fully burdened cost? I need to communicate to Congress what 
the fully burdened costs. I need to communicate to the 
Department first.
    I did that. I did that after budget submittal to--from the 
services to the Department. So that emerging cost was informed 
by the risk that we have----
    Senator Warren. So, you are telling me that this request, 
the ink is not dry on the budget request from Congress and from 
the President, and you are already saying that you know that it 
is not enough.
    I want to remind you about emerging threats. DOD already 
has transfer and reprogramming authorities to deal with 
emerging threats. You have the ability to come back to Congress 
if you can justify an emerging threat.
    We have a panel looking at whether or not there are more 
changes that are needed. But these unfunded priority lists are 
just another way to game the system. If it is a priority to 
cover something like this, then I think you should be covering 
it.
    Are you telling me that the only things that will be on 
your unfunded priority list are things you couldn't have known 
about when you submitted your budget?
    General Langley. Senator I--even my predecessor also put 
the other piece of that cost on there on ISR. We never had 
enough.
    Senator Warren. I am not hearing a yes or no. Are you 
telling me that your unfunded budget priority list will have 
nothing on it except things that you could not have known about 
when you submitted your budget?
    General Langley. There is a persistent threat that we have 
to account for. On that, on the list it will include that.
    Senator Warren. That is what your budget is for, accounting 
for the persistent threat. Let me ask General Kurilla the same. 
Last year, CENTCOM submitted a request for $35 million in its 
unfunded priority list. Are you planning to submit a wish list 
again this year?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I am. But on last year's, I am 
the one who signed last year. That was for the Massive Ordnance 
Penetrator for heavy, deeply buried targets. I do not have 
procurement dollars in my baseline budget, that is why I 
requested it.
    Senator Warren. What you are really telling me is that this 
unfunded priority list is just a way to say I need a bigger 
base budget.
    General Kurilla. I don't have that color of money, Senator, 
to ask to request that, but what I what I do as a commander is 
I mitigate risk and I go through my priorities and the missions 
I have, and then when I have any risk left over, by the law, I 
will submit per the UPL.
    Senator Warren. You know, look, I appreciate this--you all 
know I have raised this issue before. If we are going to have a 
budget, we ought to have a budget. There is no reason that DOD 
shouldn't be able to work within the budgeting process like 
every other part of Government.
    I am out of time on this, but I am going to be submitting 
more questions for the record, Mr. Chairman, on what these 
commands are doing to prevent civilian harm. DOD is on the 
right path, but I remain concerned about whether or not we are 
getting accurate and honest reporting. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator Mullin, 
please.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both for 
being here. General Kurilla, I just want to personally tell you 
how much I appreciate your service.
    Upon reading more about you, I was even more impressed. Any 
of us that have been in situations like you were in Mosul. 
Being able to keep your head in the fight after being shot 
three times and still be able to direct fire, I commend you for 
that.
    That is while it should be common, everyone in front of you 
or, and behind you knows that is not always common. So, thank 
you for doing that. I want to talk about Afghanistan a little 
bit. The American withdrawal from Kabul in 2021, as you know, 
was a complete disaster. It brought in systematic failures from 
the top down across multiple agencies. But it is not enough to 
just say this was a disaster and move on.
    Lives were lost and our posture on the world stage has been 
forever changed. As you reach 1 year in your current position, 
can you explain what you have learned in the aftermath of the 
Afghanistan withdrawal and how we can prevent these types of 
failures moving forward?
    General Kurilla. Senator, just for clarity, specifically 
about the withdrawal or overall?
    Senator Mullin. The lessons we learned from the withdrawal, 
and how we can prevent this from happening again, and how this 
has changed your position.
    General Kurilla. In terms of the actual withdrawal, one of 
the top lessons we learned is the importance of partners' 
access, basing, and overflight. We would not have been able to 
execute the actual execution of the withdrawal without all of 
our partners that we have in the Middle East----
    Senator Mullin. I think executing would be a hard word to 
say.
    General Kurilla. It would not have been possible, at the 
scale at which we did it, without our partners who provided the 
access, basing, and overflight. I think one of the other big 
lessons learned initially, it was just the mission was given to 
CENTCOM. It became a five Combatant Command mission, and then 
also with our partners, bringing them all into that planning 
session.
    Senator Mullin. Do you think people should be held 
accountable from that withdrawal?
    General Kurilla. I think anybody should be held accountable 
if there is a failure in something.
    Senator Mullin. As you know, there was a tit-for-tat going 
on between a couple of people during that whole situation. 
Gerald Mackenzie, General Donoghue. I found myself caught in 
the middle of that as we were trying to get--out with the team 
that I was part of. At the day we did end up getting over 300 
Americans out. But it wasn't from the assistance of our 
Government.
    In fact, I found that it was easier to work for the Taliban 
because I knew the price, I was going to have to pay for each 
one, than it was to get them out dealing with, unfortunately, 
us. In fact, Ambassador Pommersheim that was over Tajikistan 
literally told me, Mr. Mullin, I was told not to assist you or 
your group in any way. Unfortunately, it cost the life of a 3-
year-old young girl.
    At the same time, I see no one, not a single person held 
accountable. In fact, General Donahue is now over 18th 
Airborne. The irony of that is he is looking over Europe now 
and deterrence in Europe. General Mackenzie retired. No one in 
the State Department has been held accountable. What does that 
say to our partners?
    Our partners that lost lives. I was with His Highness in 
UAE and he was even upset about it. He said that if America is 
willing to walk away from the billions of dollars that they 
spent in Afghanistan, what does that say about our region?
    He went on to say that I fought, him, his Royal Highness 
fought in Afghanistan, his two sons fought in Afghanistan, and 
every single soldier that they lost, he visited their house 
personally. Yet we pulled out, loss of lives of--that didn't 
have to be lost. Not to mention our 13 soldiers, marines. No 
one, not a single person, has been held accountable. You think 
that is right?
    General Kurilla. Well, Senator, if I could. I have great 
respect. I have known Frank McKenzie and Chris Donahue----
    Senator Mullin. I know you do. I am very familiar with the 
relationship. It doesn't make any differences underneath their 
command, and no one was held accountable.
    In fact, the only person that was chastised about it was 
the one Colonel that came out and chastised the withdrawal 
mechanism, and how dare him speak out negative about something. 
I get it. I get the chain of command.
    I remember he broke protocol. Don't you think someone--you 
cannot sit here and tell me that that was successful 
withdrawal. Don't you think that someone should be held 
accountable? It was an absolute disaster.
    General Kurilla. Senator, I served 5 years in Afghanistan 
every year from 2009 to 2014.
    Senator Mullin. I know. I am aware of it.
    General Kurilla. I am vested in there.
    Senator Mullin. So am I.
    General Kurilla. The actual thing. I was not part of the--
--
    Senator Mullin. I know.
    General Kurilla.--force provider. But I would say that the 
execution----
    Senator Mullin. You were there before Donahue and you came 
back. You know it intimately. I am just asking you, once again, 
shouldn't someone be held accountable. If someone is below your 
command, and they went through this, and they had an absolute 
disaster like this, losing marines. Don't you think someone at 
that point would be held accountable?
    General Kurilla. I think it is an absolute travesty that we 
lost those 13 marines at Abbey Gate----
    Senator Mullin. But you don't think anybody should be held 
accountable?
    General Kurilla. I don't know if accountability has been 
assigned to anyone, Senator.
    Senator Mullin. Well it hasn't. I mean, I get what you are 
saying, but you know there hasn't. At some point, we have got 
to--our adversaries and our allies are both taking a look at 
this and we look weak.
    I know you are dealing with this and we are dealing with 
this. It is time for someone to be held accountable. What I am 
looking for is your help and your assistance in moving forward. 
We got to right this wrong. With that, I yield back. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Mullin. This issue of 
accountability is a serious one, but it would take in a 20-year 
history of the struggle in Afghanistan. Based on the operation, 
NEO [non-combatant evacuation operation] was one of the most 
difficult operations, General Kurilla. Evacuating over 120,000 
people was something I think was remarkable. Would you concur?
    General Kurilla. I absolutely agree. Again, I think the 
execution of bringing the people out was done very effectively 
in terms of the numbers. We would not have been able to do the 
numbers.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Langley, 
good to see you again. Thank you for being here.
    As you know, I recently returned from a bipartisan CODEL 
[Congressional Delegation] to Africa, where I had the 
opportunity to travel across the continent to Niger, Zambia, 
South Africa, Morocco, Botswana, Cote d'Ivoire, and had 
conversations with a lot of experts, senior leaders on a wide 
variety of topics that we care about, including food security, 
conservation efforts, critical minerals and defense.
    While we, the United States, is doing a lot of great work 
across the continent, I worry that it is not well known that we 
are providing this. At the same time, it is clear that China 
and Russia have a lot of influence in Africa. This concerns me 
a lot, and I know it does concern you, too.
    I mean, Africa has strategic importance to us for a number 
of reasons, including that many critical minerals that our 
defense industry requires are mined in Africa. This is 
something that China knows and they have begun to exploit.
    Last year, Senator Cotton and I introduced the Reshore Act 
to reduce our reliance on China for these critical minerals. 
But the important work on securing U.S. supply chains need to 
continue.
    So, General Langley, what are you seeing in Africa with 
respect to China's mining activities and their infrastructure 
development?
    General Langley. First of all, Senator, thanks for that 
question. Thank you for going on the CODEL, as I saw in Munich 
when you were on your way down there. That that really matters. 
That shows--those are assurance actions of our Nation's 
leadership going on to the continent, and I thank you for that.
    It pressurizes and it makes--causes hesitation in countries 
that are thinking about picking the PRC or even Russia as their 
partner of choice, because those are assurance actions that 
matter and resonate.
    Yes, I agree, we are not telling our story well enough. 
That is why, when the CODEL came through, right after I took 
command on their way to the continent, they asked what was 
being done on the continent. Show us--we know what the PRC is 
doing, their investments. Show us what we do. That is why I 
provided a blue map just to show our investments. So, all that 
falls into collectively across our whole-of-government approach 
as I engage across the interagency and also State Department, 
USAID, how we can be able to coalesce this into actions that 
resonate.
    Senator Kelly. General, can you talk a little bit about 
what China is doing and how it is impacting countries that we 
have had relationships with. I don't want to lead you into, but 
I am really interested in the negative impact that China's 
mining and infrastructure activities have had on the continent.
    General Langley. Yes, Senator. So, yes, I also provided to 
the foreign actor reliance on the African metal stores, and 
that is a very compelling story.
    For economic reasons and also how they go about striking 
deals with some of the countries on some of our critical assets 
for not only for our rare earth minerals that feed into our 
clean energy, but also into the military side, as far as our 
high technical type of our arsenal and equipment.
    China is trying to harvest that. So, it is their engagement 
with countries laid out on the slide, the last slide we have, 
on the critical reliance on foreign minerals. This is our new 
economy. This is going to be a big demand as we start to 
modernize our forces and China realizes that.
    Those are actions they are trying to take on the 
illustrated countries that we have highlighted on here. So, 
yes, it is a strategic consequence that we need to be able to 
face and in turn to these countries to ensure that they have a 
partner of choice.
    Senator Kelly. General, how do we do a better job telling 
our story? Because you got China in there making bad deals, 
building bad infrastructure. This isn't good for the African 
nations. You know, at the same time, the Russians have Wagner 
in there supporting essentially terrorism. What can we do to 
better tell our story on the African continent?
    General Langley. Senator, illuminate and amplify. I saw a 
good story this morning in the press about the Kenyans have 
gone to the street tired of some of the stuff that the PRC is 
doing for them, how they are taking advantage of their economy 
and taking advantage of their environment.
    News stories like that resonate. They change ideas. I 
guarantee you the rest--if it happened in Kenya, is happening 
all across the continent of Africa, and people read these 
stories and it resonates. People are taking action.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, General, and Mr. Chairman, I will 
have a couple of questions for the record. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. The--first, I agree 
with Senator Mullin that we need to have some way to hold 
people accountable for what happened in Afghanistan.
    So, I have had a bill that would have a bipartisan 
committee that would investigate exactly what happened there. I 
want to thank the military for what they did, but the decisions 
that were made don't seem to make much sense.
    What does the American public not know about China that if 
they knew would change--because I assume you spend a lot of 
your time thinking about what China is doing all over the 
world.
    What does the American public need to know about China that 
they don't know right now that maybe would impact, would have a 
positive impact on impacting their ability to spend the 
resources to impact Africa anywhere in the world? For both of 
you.
    General Kurilla. Senator, so I would go to what one of the 
chiefs of defense told me. He says, you have no idea how much 
they have closed the gap on you and your technology. This is 
someone who is buying Chinese equipment.
    I also think that the American public don't have an 
understanding of how much they have penetrated into the Middle 
East in terms of their diplomatic, informational, military, and 
their economic instruments of national power.
    Senator Scott. General Langley.
    General Langley. Senator, I agree with my good friend Eric 
here. China, we have enjoyed for a number of years a decisive 
overmatch. But that gap is closing because of China's 
advancements or stealing our technology, you name it. How they 
are--the procedures they are executing to close that gap.
    That is what has me concerned, and even in the economic 
realm, as they are trying to harvest a lot of the critical 
minerals on the continent of Africa, all that falls into them 
being able to, from an economic standpoint, to actually try to 
close the gap on that decisive overmatch as well.
    Then also changing the international order and 
international system as they try to get some of the African 
countries to vote or abstain, something that is not along 
social norms or the right thing to do in voting, especially 
with mining or other things that--or humanity, or human rights, 
because they commit some of those atrocities back in China or 
some activities they do in Hong Kong.
    So just changing the economic system. In those three areas 
is where it is most pressing of the list of the activities of 
the PRC.
    Senator Scott. So, if elected leaders spend more time 
explaining exactly what China was doing with the end result 
that every American would call out China for their human rights 
violations or stop buying their products or not putting their 
devices on our phones.
    Would that, you think that would impact their ability to do 
the bad--you know, to spend their money on the resources to 
counteract our military, not be able to go into places around 
the world and lend money at unreasonable terms?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I think education is very 
important that people understand what China is doing.
    General Kurilla. Senator, I think it will impose costs on 
them as well that they will have to reckon with.
    Senator Scott. Yes. General Kurilla, what is the optimal 
cooperation you envision among United States, Israel, and the 
Arabian, or Abraham Accords members? Is it air defense? What 
would you hope out of that?
    General Kurilla. I think there are several areas, Senator, 
that we can do. The Abraham Accords are also economic, and I 
think that is going to--the economic benefit you get in terms 
of job creation also is a--reduces instability and some of the 
Abraham Accords countries. We do have, we talked about Middle 
East air defense. We talked about maritime security and cyber 
defense as well.
    Senator Scott. General Langley, you talked about what is 
happening in Kenya. On top of the public being up in arms about 
what is going--what China is doing, are the governments pushing 
back at all in Africa?
    General Langley. Senator, that is part of the problem, 
because what they invest in, and when they strike these deals, 
they are striking the deals for mostly autocratic or 
authoritarian type of governance. Those of democracies have a 
voice because they know that the people are watching. I think 
it really matters what particular country that they are 
pressurizing.
    Senator Scott. General Kurilla, do you have the resources 
and personnel that you need to conduct your counterterrorism 
mission that is laid out in the National Defense Strategy?
    General Langley. Senator, we are currently balancing the 
missions that we have with the resources we get, and I am 
adjusting risk every day dynamically with the resources that I 
have. I am requesting the additional resources I would need to 
be able to accomplish all of my tasks.
    Senator Scott. Is what you requested is adequate?
    General Langley. What I have requested is adequate, and 
then it is up to the allocation of those resources in 
accordance with the national defense priorities.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Scott. Senate 
Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed. Appreciate it. 
Appreciate you holding this hearing. I would really like to 
thank Generals Kurilla and Langley for your service and for 
being here today. I am just going to kind of get right into it 
about Iranian aggression, of course, top of everyone's mind.
    General Kurilla, the Pentagon estimates that hundreds of 
American troops have been killed by Iranian backed militias in 
Iraq and Afghanistan, yet Iran's regime has never been held 
accountable for orchestrating attacks against Americans. The 
men and women who gave their lives are taken by these State 
forces. There are thousands of families there without their 
loved ones as a result.
    So today, Iranian aligned militias, they are increasingly 
targeting United States installations, servicemembers in Iraq 
and Syria via rocket and drone attacks. On a regular basis, we 
know Iran, the world's leading State sponsor of terrorism, is 
threatening the United States and our allied interests in the 
Middle East and around the world again via both direct attacks 
and also through their support for Hezbollah and the Islamic 
Republic's other terrorist proxies.
    So, could you discuss in this setting some specific threats 
the Iranian aligned militia groups pose to the United States 
and our coalition forces? What can we do to proactively not 
just defend against them, what can we do to proactively maybe 
push them back?
    General Kurilla. Thanks, Senator, for the question. So, 
again, Iran is the number one malign actor in the Middle East. 
The latest attack we just had was less than 60 hours ago on one 
of our bases in Syria that we know that was Iranian aligned 
militia groups that conducted this attack.
    We do see the threat that we face from them are from 
rockets, from unmanned systems that are increasingly longer 
range and more accurate. Just in January, we had three UAVs 
attack our base in on Al-Tanf garrison in Syria.
    That was Iranian drones that did that. So, we do see that 
across the region, and also against our allies and partners, 
whether that was from the Houthis coming out of Yemen against 
Saudi Arabia and the UAE, or from Lebanese Hezbollah against 
Israel, or from elements coming out of Iraq and Syria against 
Iranian aligned militia groups.
    What we can do is it is going to take a whole-of-government 
approach to be able to go after this problem set. It is not 
just a military solution.
    Senator Rosen. So, we can work with you on the resources we 
need to take care of that. Because I want to get to something 
we talked about a little bit earlier, Task Force 59 and some 
other interesting things we are doing, but really, Israel's 
transfer to CENTCOM. It is now within your area of 
responsibility.
    It is my sincere hope that this realignment is going to 
potentiate even greater military cooperation between the United 
States and our shared goals, as well as greater cooperation 
between our Arab and Israeli partners, as we see with things 
like the Abraham Accords coming forward.
    So, I know that I am pleased to see the increasing pace of 
joint exercises between the United States, Israel, Arab 
partners. Can you tell us a little bit about the progress you 
have made in advancing the integration of Israel into your 
multilateral maritime partnerships, like the very exciting task 
force, the development they are doing. I was able to learn 
about them when I recently visited NAVCENT [Navy Forces Central 
Command] in Bahrain.
    General Kurilla. Thank you, Senator. We think it is going 
very well with the integration of Israel into the CENTCOM AOR, 
including our exercises and our training as well. We did have a 
bilateral exercise called Juniper Oak that we just did in 
January, which was the largest exercise with 142 aircraft that 
we participated with them in January.
    When you talk about Task Force 59, that is our Maritime 
Security Innovation Task Force. Is an unmanned and undersea 
unmanned vessel task force, where we basically are enhancing 
the manned platforms that we have.
    One police car--one destroyer in the Red Sea is the 
equivalent of one police car patrolling the State of 
California. When we take a bunch of unmanned platforms like 
sail drones and other unmanned surface vessels and undersea 
vessels, they act as a series of indications and warnings with 
sensors out there in a mesh network.
    They can feed it back into a structured data base that then 
we run algorithms against to help us make decisions. Is that 
normal behavior, abnormal behavior, to then use our manned 
platforms better to be able to get after the problem set.
    Senator Rosen. I am going to--hopefully you will come and 
show us all a briefing on what you are doing there. It is 
pretty exciting. In the few seconds I have left, we are talking 
about the region integrated air missile defense, naval maritime 
partnerships.
    How is CENTCOM reassuring our regional partners that the 
United States is really committed to regional stability and 
security? When we were there leading the Abraham Accords caucus 
delegation when I was there, this was the number one thing 
people wanted to know. Are we committed to the region? How are 
you showing them that?
    General Kurilla. I spend 50 percent of my time in the 
region. We have a series of exercises and training events. So 
last 41 training and exercises that we do multilateral and 
bilateral, and that is the way we are trying to buildup our 
partner capacity with them by integrating them into the systems 
that we have as well.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I see my time is up, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rosen. Senator 
Budd, please. Oh, excuse me, Senator Tuberville has arrived. 
Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Generals, 
thanks for being here, and thanks for your service. You have 
got your hands full. General Kurilla, in your organization, 
Task Force 59, has had some great success building unmanned 
systems. I am familiar with one of their platforms, Saildrone.
    It seems like these systems have a lot of potential for 
both CENTCOM and the Navy, and it is encouraging to see your 
command taking advantage of cutting-edge technology commercial 
sector. What do you think has contributed to the success of 
Task Force 59 work with systems like Saildrone?
    General Kurilla. I think what is successful is the people. 
It is the people that we hire that are innovative and creative 
and critical thinkers. When we push these systems into their 
hand, they are using them in ways that we never thought 
possible. A lot the systems in the unmanned and the undersea 
that we use, they are used for commercial fishing.
    When fishermen go out, they are not going out to find fish, 
they are going out to catch fish. So, we use a lot of these 
systems with their integrated sensors.
    I think Saildrone initially was used for maritime 
oceanographic capabilities, and we have turned that into 
something they can act as indications and warnings with the 
sensors that are on it.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, we almost lost a couple a couple 
of Saildrones. I think Iran tried to load a couple on one of 
their ships. Was that during your----
    General Kurilla. It was.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. How did that go out?
    General Kurilla. We got him back.
    Senator Tuberville. You got them back? Good. Well, that is 
good to know. At one time, we had 60 balloons over Kabul, 
Afghanistan. Our ISR is very limited. How confident are you in 
the intelligence you have to see new threats rising from the 
Taliban?
    General Kurilla. Currently our intelligence has degraded 
since we are no longer in Afghanistan. I believe we can see the 
broad contours of an attack. Sometimes we lack the granularity 
to see the full picture. We are working to close that gap with 
our alternative airborne ISR and some of our other intelligence 
that we are working to penetrate into those networks.
    Senator Tuberville. It seemed like for some reason this 
Administration is going to accept Iran developing a nuclear 
weapon. If Iran does develop a nuclear weapon of mass 
destruction, which the United States spent trillions trying to 
keep out of the hands of dictators in the Middle East, how will 
that scramble your AOR?
    General Kurilla. It would change it overnight and forever.
    Senator Tuberville. General Langley, I am aware of several 
vacancies in key diplomatic posts. I was in South Africa 
recently. China is there daily, trying to move in. Is that 
important to you, the diplomatic post being filled?
    General Langley. Senator, absolutely it is. It builds 
capacity. As I talk about the 3-D construct, having full-
fledged bolstered capacity at our diplomatic posts is essential 
and it makes a difference of us being able to maintain our 
partnership and capacity. Moreover, ensuring our strategic 
access.
    Senator Tuberville. Could you talk a little bit about South 
Africa and what you have done since you have been there, your 
relationship that you have made and what you see coming from 
China, and maybe even Russia?
    General Langley. Senator, I haven't been to South Africa 
yet. I will be going there in the coming months. But right now, 
what I am really concerned about is Mosei II, that exercise, 
that naval exercise. That was just a messaging campaign by the 
Russian Federation and also by the PRC. So, I have been having 
discussions with Ambassador Brigety down there and saying, what 
is South Africa's story?
    South Africa, they are--they have been a good partner. We 
are building that relationship, but they don't want to be 
pressurized in who they choose. So, I have to use assurance 
actions to compel them that we are the partner of choice.
    Senator Tuberville. Don't you think it is vital that we 
keep China from overtaking that port there in South Africa?
    General Langley. Absolutely, sir, because as we look at the 
Cape of Good Hope and look at how much transit that our 
commerce goes across, and it can also be a power projection 
point as well. So, we can't ill afford, from a geostrategic 
opposition, allow either the PRC or even Russia to use that as 
a platform.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, I know it is not your purview, but 
they are trying to do the same thing in Argentina, you know, 
which is the point of South America. We definitely don't need 
to lose those two contacts in terms of navigation. Thank you. 
Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Kurilla, 
welcome. Good to have you here. I, along with my colleagues on 
the Committee, have worked to strengthen our partnership with 
Israel.
    In particular the collaboration and synergies between our 
two countries in the innovation space, I believe probably has 
never been greater, and it certainly is an area that I believe 
the United States must do more to take advantage of our 
friendship with like-minded, I guess you could call them techno 
democracies that are highly sophisticated in that area.
    I was proud to sponsor legislation creating a United 
States, Israel Operations Technology Working Group to help 
further the DOD efforts in that area. My question for you is, 
if you could please speak to the strategic advantage that our 
relationship with Israel offers in a global environment where 
rapid innovation and the fielding of emerging technologies 
rapidly is absolutely key to our national security.
    General Kurilla. Thank you, Senator. Israel is one of the 
world leaders in technology in terms of the innovation and how 
to take that to the areas of national security. I have been 
over there several times. I have seen how they are implementing 
that. I do find that the relationship that we have with them is 
already bearing fruits in terms of that.
    I look at that in the counter United States field where I 
have been all the way down from Iron Dome, all the way up to 
the exoatmospheric Arrow 3. It is the ability to understand 
their technology and be able to proliferate that as well.
    Senator Peters. Right. General, at the end of this month, 
we will mark the 8th year of the war in Yemen. This conflict 
has been a humanitarian catastrophe for hundreds of thousands 
of deaths, millions displaced, and tens of millions Yemenis 
suffering from both famine and disease.
    The war has been exacerbated by the role of a proxy 
conflict between Saudi Arabia and Iran and has been the people 
of Yemen who unfortunately have been the victims and have 
suffered as a result of this geopolitical strategizing. 
Congress has been active in ensuring that United States support 
is not the cause for any innocent suffering in Yemen.
    A June 2022 GAO [Government Accountability Office] report 
regarding civilian impacts of United States military support 
for the Saudi coalition provided recommendations to the DOD on 
measures to help mitigate civilian harm from our support.
    So, my question for you, sir, is has the Department 
developed and implemented guidance for reporting any 
indications that United States made defense articles were used 
in Yemen by Saudi Arabia or the UAE against anything other than 
legitimate military targets?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I am aware of that GAO report. I 
have read it. I have seen it. My understanding right now is the 
Department is working through any implementation instructions 
from it.
    Senator Peters. Very good. General Langley, drug 
trafficking and the cartels profiting from that trade are 
without question a global threat. AFRICOM is certainly not 
immune to these issues with West Africa in particular now 
serving as a popular vector for cartels to move products from 
Latin America to Europe.
    The drug trade destabilizes lawful governments, undermines 
public safety, and provides critical funding and resources for 
other transnational criminal organizations. So, my question for 
you, General, is what efforts is AFRICOM making to strengthen 
the ability of local governments to conduct counter-narcotics 
operations and to attack this insidious trade?
    General Langley. Senator, thanks for asking that question, 
because that is of particular concern with our partners. The 
Gulf of Guinea is like the wild, wild West of illicit activity, 
especially the drug trade.
    Two exercises that just happened in the past month. 
Obangame Express. Obangame Express is where we--it had a number 
of countries that come together to focus on illicit activity 
across the Gulf. The drug trade is one of it, smuggling is 
another, and transiting citizens as well across that region.
    But it is inextricably linked to South America as well. So, 
I work with General Richardson on that, and I thank this 
Congress for legislation that gave us $200 million to address 
this issue. But building partnership and capacity with African 
nations, especially in the Gulf of Guinea, addresses that issue 
as they build their maritime capacity. But that is also an 
opportunity for another ask.
    Hershel Woody Williams and even the Coast Guard when they 
bring a cutter in, it makes a difference. This is naval 
diplomacy at its best. If we can get assignment to another 
ship, I wish I had another Hershel Woody Williams to cover the 
other side of Africa continent. But just naval activity and 
bolstering our partners' ability for their maritime expertise. 
To buildupon that building capability is essential going 
forward. Thank you.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, General. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters, and now, Senator 
Budd.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman. Good morning, gentlemen. 
I want to thank you both for your leadership and your service, 
particularly your commands of units in North Carolina at Fort 
Bragg and Camp Lejeune. So, I recently returned from both of 
your overseas areas of responsibility.
    A common complaint from our allies and our partners is that 
the foreign military sales process is overly complicated and 
slow. It is just downright bureaucratic. So, in that vein, I 
have a series of questions.
    If you would, just if you would give me a simple yes or no 
to the answer, and then at the end hopefully we will have a 
little more time and I will give you some time to elaborate. 
General Kurilla, is the current FMS process fast and flexible 
enough to meet our foreign partners' security needs in your 
respective AORs?
    General Kurilla. In CENTCOM, no.
    Senator Budd. General Langley.
    General Langley. AFRICOM, no.
    Senator Budd. Does the transfer of U.S. defense products 
build our partners' capacity to provide for their own defense 
and respond to threats? General.
    General Kurilla. Yes, Senator.
    General Langley. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Given the success of Western arms against 
Russian equipment in Ukraine, is there an increased interest in 
United States defense products in your AOR?
    General Kurilla. There is a very strong interest in U.S. 
products.
    General Langley. Very strong in Africa as well, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. Thank you. Is China increasing 
arms exports to any countries in your AOR? General Kurilla.
    General Kurilla. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Budd. General Langley.
    General Langley. Senator, it is kind of flatline right now.
    Senator Budd. But they have been before.
    General Langley. They have been before in the past.
    Senator Budd. Thanks. Is the United States still the 
security partner of choice in your AORs?
    General Kurilla. It is, Senator.
    General Langley. Absolutely, Senator. It is in Africa.
    Senator Budd. Is the United States at risk of losing that 
security partner of choice status to either China or Russia?
    General Kurilla. China is making inroads. I do not assess 
Russia is.
    General Langley. It is a risk, Senator.
    Senator Budd. So, if you--elaborate that, if you could each 
explain how FMS challenges are impacting strategic competition 
with China and Russia in your AORs. If you would elaborate on 
that, please.
    General Kurilla. Sure, Senator. In the CENTCOM AOR, with 
the number of attacks that we see in there, our partners have 
real security needs, and so they want to have the equipment 
they need fast.
    What China is able to do is come in very quickly, open up 
their catalog, let them pick from anything in it, very quickly 
to deliver it. There is no end user agreement. But what they 
don't do is they don't followup with it and they don't have the 
training, the expertise, the sustainment, the upgrades.
    What we do find with our partners is when they buy Chinese 
equipment, a vast majority of it becomes non-mission capable. A 
year or so after they have that equipment and we do see a 
complaint from that. They want to buy U.S. equipment, but 
sometimes it is the timeline to get it that is a hindrance.
    Senator Budd. And the process----
    General Kurilla. The process is what takes the time to do 
it. There are I know that the Department of Defense has a Tiger 
team to look specifically at what the Department of Defense can 
do to increase it. There is four levers, Department of Defense, 
State, Congress, and industry, and I know the Department of 
Defense is looking at their lever.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. General Langley.
    General Langley. Senator, I have characterized in my 
assessment since taking command that West Africa is at a 
tipping point. What I mean is how these extremist groups, 
whether we are talking about ISIS, West Africa, or even JNIM 
[Jama'at Nusrat al-Islam wal-Muslimin] or Boko Haram, they are 
all at the door, especially at the Gulf of Guinea states.
    As I have done my travels, and I was in Ghana, they said, 
we don't want your boots on the ground, but we would like your 
equipment. All we need, in Ghana all we need to affect quad 
initiative, which is a coalition of willing of states of Togo, 
Benin, and Cote d'Ivoire, but they want equipment.
    Before they go across the line of departure, they need 
equipment. They want U.S. equipment but they know how long it 
takes. So, there they are considering because these affiliates 
are at their back door, they need something now.
    They want to come with us, Senator, but the process is too 
slow, and they need to be able to affect a viable offense to 
help Cote d'Ivoire--excuse me, to affect Burkina Faso save 
their own country.
    So, we are showing a good--what we would like to see, 
partner led, U.S. enabled, but we need to step up the U.S. 
enabled at this point.
    Senator Budd. You know, that matches conversations with our 
allies recently. Can you please discuss how your requirements 
for Special Operations Forces has grown, and what cuts to SOF 
in strength would have on your operations?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I rely very heavily on our 
Special Operations Forces in the CENTCOM AOR. They are doing 
tremendous work. Any cuts to in the CENTCOM region would affect 
me significantly.
    General Langley. It would take the heart out of our 
efforts, both in the East and the West with our Special 
Operations Forces of AFRICOM.
    Senator Budd. Thank you both. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Budd. Senator 
King, please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Langley, we 
have been having a lot of discussion today about China's 
activities in Africa. Is there any buyer's remorse? China has 
sort of scaled back on Belt and Road to some extent, and some 
of the debt issues are now coming to the fore. Are there 
countries in Africa starting to rethink some of those 
commitments? Buyer's remorse is probably the best term.
    General Langley. Senator, great question, and in I traverse 
for that, for any indicators of that, and I low and behold I 
saw a story this morning out of Kenya. They have taken to the 
streets of how China has been taking advantage of them in the 
deals that they strike. Now, there are other indicators across 
the continent, other stories of debt trap diplomacy that----
    Senator King. They call it debt colonialism.
    General Langley. Oh, yes, absolutely, Senator.
    Senator King. So, let me followup if that is the case, and 
it appears that it is, does this create an opening for us to be 
more active in infrastructure projects, support for development 
in these countries, that we can come in and show that it can be 
done in a much more efficient and skilled way.
    General Langley. Absolutely, Senator. That we do have--that 
we see that as an opportunity. As we call it, a consolidated 
strategic opportunity, and we need to match it up with key 
strategic activities.
    Whereas we can use a whole-of-government approach, we can 
use Prosper Africa, Digital Africa, and get these programs off 
the ground and going. I know that I have met with Assistant 
Secretary Molly Phee last week and also, I was over at USAID, 
and they we have a plan of action collectively, whole-of-
government to be able to put it in motion.
    Senator King. You use the term whole-of-government, and I 
think the private sector also has to be included in this in 
terms of development of resources. You used a phrase earlier 
that I noted about the Chinese efforts to monopolize and get a 
hold of these rare earths and minerals. Forward thinking by the 
PRC.
    We haven't been doing that forward thinking. We have 
allowed them to take control of, for example, lithium, an 
essential element for EV batteries. Eighty-seven percent of the 
process to lithium that goes into EV batteries in this country 
comes from China. We haven't been doing that forward thinking.
    I am suggesting that that is something we should start to 
think about and it should be a combination of Government 
action, but also the private sector. We don't do everything by 
the Government here.
    General Langley. Senator, that is correct. We don't tell 
the good news story enough, and that is why I provided--well, 
this, the blue chart here. But on legislation passed affect us 
such as Prosper Africa is also a message to our private 
industry to invest in Africa. That is what I talk about when I 
talk to the country teams as they are heavily recruiting back 
in the United States for investment in the African nations and 
states.
    Senator King. Thank you. General Kurilla, King Abdullah was 
here about a month ago and he said the this was the most 
dangerous moment in Israeli-Palestinian relations that he would 
seen in decades. Give me your analysis of the status of that. 
It seems like it is a very heightened sense of danger in terms 
of open conflict.
    General Kurilla. Senator, I agree with the statement of 
King Abdullah on that, and we watch this very closely. We think 
the conditions are there, the tinder and the kindling is there, 
and we don't know what it could take for what spark to be able 
to start a larger conflict in the West Bank.
    Senator King. Let me just ask a sort of parenthetical 
question. Often, we get the question about Iran's nuclear 
capacity. Do you have a military analysis of what a strike, an 
air strike, a significant substantial airstrike on Iran's 
nuclear capacity would actually--what would be the impact of 
that on their ability to move toward a nuclear weapon?
    General Kurilla. I do, Senator, but I best believe that 
would be in a classified setting.
    Senator King. Okay. Thank you. One other question in your 
AOR about stability, and that is Pakistan, a nuclear armed 
country. They have had a lot of political issues lately. An 
assessment of the stability and long-term prospects for 
stability in Pakistan.
    General Kurilla. They have an idea of what the military 
relationship is there. I have a great relationship with the 
Chief of the Army Staff, General Munir. I think the concerns 
right now in Pakistan are their budget, their financial 
situation, the current political situation, and the 
counterterrorism situation as they see the three key Taliban, 
Pakistani, the TTP [Tehrik-e Taliban Pakistan], the attacks are 
significantly increasing with the end of a cease-fire there.
    Senator King. Are you confident of their nuclear security 
procedures?
    General Kurilla. I am confident of their nuclear security 
procedures.
    Senator King. Thank you. That may be the first good news we 
have heard today. Thank you, General. Thank you, gentlemen.
    Chairman Reed. I thank you, Senator King. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
being here. Appreciate it. I want to followup a little bit on 
the question that Senator Scott asked. I think part of our 
challenge right now is, as the newest or one of the newest 
members of this Committee, it has become very clear to me that 
China is an immediate threat, long term threat, intermediate 
threat.
    How are you going to characterize it? China should be a 
very important focus of ours. So, one of their tools, 
obviously, that they deploy around the globe is the debt trap. 
I would like for both of you if you could help us communicate 
back home to the folks who are wondering what are the most 
pressing needs of the country, what is the most concerning 
thing from a national security perspective, how that affects 
what you guys do, and what are some of the most egregious 
examples that you have seen in your roles.
    General Kurilla. So, Senator, thank you. What I see again 
is the penetration economically where they go in and they 
provide infrastructure with the financing that goes with it, 
and I can use an example in one country where they went in, 
they provided infrastructure, and it was almost like a balloon 
mortgage payment.
    In the peak of the COVID crisis overseas, at the worst 
point of their economy in this one country, they came and they 
demanded their payment and it absolutely crushed that country 
to do that. It caused them to see the way that China does in 
terms of their debt trap.
    There are several other examples also in the Central Asian 
states as well. It is important to understand, though, what 
China is doing. They are doing it for their own benefit, not 
for the other's benefits.
    General Langley. Senator, the same thing has taken place on 
the continent of Africa as well. Whether in the vein of debt 
trap diplomacy--here is the difference that makes us a partner 
of choice. We go off aid first, financing last.
    China does financing first, and that financing puts at a 
disadvantage of those that are asking for the funds. Very few 
times will they actually do any type of aid. So that is the 
assurance action that it causes our partner countries on the 
African continent to side with us.
    There is a number of initial deals struck in a memorandum 
of agreement in the Belt and Road Initiative across 40 
countries across the continent of Africa. That is very 
compelling. It hasn't matured yet to actually show the negative 
effects. But in aggregate, we do communicate cautionary tales 
from signing such agreements.
    Senator Schmitt. Eighteen months ago, Israel was integrated 
into CENTCOM, and I just wanted to find out how that has gone. 
What your--is there, you know, fully integrated into that 
theater. How you view that?
    General Kurilla. It is going exceptionally well and we view 
it as a net positive, Senator.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay, that is great. I guess finally, 
because I have got about a minute and a half here, we talked 
about the debt trap, but I think that the building of the 
islands in the South China Sea being fully weaponized with the 
spy balloon that traversed over Alaska and the Continental 
United States, it has certainly raised awareness, I think, at a 
point now that we have not seen before.
    I think and these are terrible things that have happened. 
But I think the American people now recognize the threat that 
China poses to the United States, and not just I think, 
obviously economically, some of the theft from an intellectual 
property perspective has been well documented for a while.
    But clearly, as they try to project that strength into the 
Indo-Pacific and the South China Sea, and those islands are 
fully weaponized. Beyond the debt trap that you, illuminated, 
what are a couple of other examples that you see that maybe 
most people don't know about, that certainly raises a lot of 
concerns and the alarm bells are going off about how serious 
China is about global domination.
    General Langley. Senator, I will focus just on them trying 
to change the international order, trying to change the 
international system. That is very compelling, and how they 
engage with African nations on the continent, and how they vote 
in the U.N. General Assembly. That is an indication that they 
cannot gain a strategic advantage unless it is along their 
norms, what they consider their norms.
    Then the economic piece is very compelling of how they are 
trying to corner the market on what we call some of the rare 
earth minerals or even resources that are on the continent of 
Africa, and how they are trying to strike bad deals with these 
countries, extracting these resources without the benefit of 
the African nations. That is a cautionary tale that needs to be 
told.
    General Kurilla. Senator, we see 19 of 21 countries in the 
CENTCOM AOR have signed Belt and Road Initiative agreements 
with China. That is for China's benefit. We have also seen 20 
of 21 countries have Huawei contracts in them. They are 
building smart cities and a lot of this is for Chinese 
advantage.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Schmitt. Senator 
Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for your extraordinary service to our Nation. I want to focus 
on the Wagner Group, which I think is kind of the elephant in 
both of your rooms, so to speak.
    I am a strong supporter of designating the Wagner Group as 
a foreign terrorist organization, which will have a 
constructive impact. I would think, in both of your commands. 
General Langley, if I remember correctly in your testimony, you 
talk about the price of the Wagner Group in Africa as being, 
``the failure of government institutions, the withdrawal of 
stalwart security allies, the extraction of mineral wealth, and 
long-term resource concessions and debt that chip away at 
Africans' future.''
    In Ukraine, as we well know, the Wagner Group poses a very 
severe and immediate threat, not only in Bakhmut but throughout 
the country. It is probably one of Putin's most effective 
fighting forces right now, a mercenary, murderous organization.
    The argument that I have heard against it is that 
designating Wagner as a foreign terrorist organization 
complicates our interests in Africa because governments doing 
business with the Wagner Group could suffer sanctions as a 
result of that business.
    I think that is totally a bogus argument. I see no valid 
reason not to designate Wagner as foreign terrorist 
organization. Please give me your views. General Langley, and 
then General Kurilla.
    General Langley. Thank you, Senator, for asking that 
question because I do need to message some of the atrocities 
going on with the Wagner Group, not only in the Central Africa 
Republic, but also in Mali since this past summer. They have 
been reported on by the U.N. multinational force there of the 
atrocities and egregious actions that are taken on the public. 
This is very serious.
    The Wagner Group, even though we know that to Yevgeny 
Prigozhin, everything is about power and profit, but they are 
inextricably linked to the Russian Federation. So, the further 
they are on--the more they are on the continent, preying upon 
fragile governance will be a problem and destabilizing across 
the African continent.
    Senator Blumenthal. So, would you feel they should be 
designated as a foreign terrorist organization?
    General Langley. Well, Senator, I will just--I will say 
this, collectively----
    Senator Blumenthal. They are foreign terrorist 
organization, are they not?
    General Langley. Senator, I think that is--if we have a 
policy representative, you know, I will stay out of that. I 
would like to just focus on what we need as AFRICOM to be able 
to do this, and we do it in the information space. But across 
all other--the rest of the whole-of-government, we do have 
pressurizing things. I can take that into, if you--or let me 
bring this up in closed session.
    Senator Blumenthal. Of course. Let me ask you both. Maybe I 
can ask General Kurilla first. Israel is going through domestic 
unrest, protests. I have been visited by a number of members of 
the Israeli military on a number of occasions, some personally, 
who feel that this unrest is impacting their readiness. Do you 
have any views on that topic?
    General Kurilla. I talk to the Israeli chief of defense 
often, I talked to him yesterday morning. What we talk about is 
he is trying to ensure that his military stays out of the 
political conversation.
    Senator Blumenthal. Do you think that the recent proposals 
for changes in their judicial system is in any way undermining 
their readiness or preparedness?
    General Kurilla. I think as you look at the Israeli system, 
they have reserve units and that is where we are seeing some of 
this manifest itself. But I do not want to make a statement 
really on the judicial system without knowing all the facts of 
what they are doing.
    Senator Blumenthal. Let me ask to followup, I think it was 
Senator Mullin who was asking you about our Afghan at risk 
allies. I have been a leading advocate of the Afghan Adjustment 
Act. I have played a part in trying to extract the translators, 
guards, security personnel.
    My own son served there in the Marine Corps. Actually, was 
able to get his translator out of Afghanistan. But there are 
thousands still at risk with targets on their backs. Having 
served there repeatedly with great distinction, are we doing 
enough to get them out?
    General Kurilla. I think we have a moral obligation to get 
those out. Again, we think the number is, you know, I would 
defer to the State Department the exact number. The State 
Department works the aspect of getting them out. Once they come 
to us in Camp As Sayliyah, we provide the in-processing, 
security, and basic life support for them.
    Senator Blumenthal. I agree totally. We have that moral 
obligation. Veterans groups agree steadfastly and passionately 
about it. I am hoping that not only we will pass the Afghan 
Adjustment Act, but also take greater measures to enable them 
to escape the persecution, torture, and death that many of them 
are at risk.
    General Kurilla. I do applaud our veterans groups that are 
doing--taking that action on as well.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and gentleman, thank 
you very much for your service and your leadership. General 
Kurilla, just a few quick questions.
    Some of this has been covered briefly by a number of other 
Senators, but we do have the great powers that are out there 
putting a lot of pressure on us in Asia and in Europe. We also 
have competing priorities here at home. We have got a financial 
crisis. We have got Southern border issues.
    Then the very sobering of fiscal outlook right now. We are 
entering into an era where being able to support defense with 
everything we have got has really slowed down significantly. 
The belt is tightening and you have heard concerns today.
    I know that the NDS has directed the Department to right 
size your forward military presence in your AOR. Of course, 
doing that, accepting prudent risk as necessary. So how has 
CENTCOM improved the economy of force in your theater?
    General Kurilla. Thank you, Senator. CENTCOM is 85 percent 
smaller than at the peak in 2008. That was in the midst of two 
conflicts. After the withdrawal from Afghanistan, even in 2022, 
we reduced by 15 percent, post-Afghanistan withdrawal.
    What we require in CENTCOM is a sustainable and sufficient 
force structure to be able to accomplish the missions we have 
been given. Again, I go back to if there is one place that can 
derail the NDS, it could come out of CENTCOM with a flash 
point.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, I absolutely agree with that. I know 
the President, during the Afghanistan withdrawal, told us that 
if we withdrew from Afghanistan, there would be a windfall of 
resources to prioritize China. So, what resources did this 
action free up in our budget, and then how did DOD reinvest 
those?
    General Kurilla. I really, Senator, would defer to OMB 
[Office of Management and Budget] and the Department of Defense 
on any cost savings. But I believe those resources were then 
moved to against the higher priority of INDOPACOM and EUCOM.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. Thank you, and I would be willing to 
bet there weren't as many cost savings maybe as we would have 
thought. Different topic, but you have heard a lot of 
discussion about the Abraham Accords today.
    I also am a co-chair with Senator Rosen on the Abraham 
Accords caucus. I am very proud that our legislation on air and 
missile defense cooperation did get passed last year in the 
NDAA, and it does help our partners with their security burden.
    So, you have talked a little bit about this, but when you 
are implementing this or trying to implement this integration 
framework, what challenges are you running into now that we 
might be able to iron out without legislation, and is there an 
area where we might need legislation?
    General Kurilla. I can tell you where we are right now. We 
are making progress. We are going toward a shared air picture 
between a group of countries. The challenge we have, though, is 
if there is Chinese equipment that we cannot integrate.
    So, whether that is a radar or whether that is an actual 
air defense system, we can't let that touch our network based 
on the--on what we know about the Chinese equipment. So, it 
just is not compatible with it either. So that is the one 
challenge that we have to be able to do that.
    I am not sure what legislation--the legislation that could 
help us potentially is how do we get FMS faster so they don't 
have to choose to buy a Chinese system.
    Senator Ernst. Excellent, and this has been a discussion as 
well about FMS and whether it should be the jurisdiction of 
Armed Services or another committee here in the U.S. Senate. 
That is something for us to iron out. So, you don't necessarily 
need additional authorities for implementation then, that you 
are aware of?
    General Kurilla. I believe I have all the authority they 
need right now, ma'am.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. I would just encourage our partners in 
that region to buy American. Maybe that is the message that we 
need to send.
    General Kurilla. I would be happy if they just bought 
Western.
    Senator Ernst. Western--well, compatible----
    General Kurilla. It would be great with all of our systems.
    Senator Ernst. No, excellent point. Excellent point, 
General. I do want to thank you for your tireless efforts to 
build partnerships in the region. I was recently on a CODEL 
where we visited Israel, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, and the 
UAE. I heard over and over again your name mentioned 
specifically, and we described that or we have described that 
in the past as leadership by walking around.
    You did State earlier that you spend 50 percent of your 
time in the AOR, and I know that that is greatly appreciated by 
our partners. So, thank you for doing that. Truly appreciate 
your leadership. Presence is power.
    General Langley, I know that you are out there and engaged 
as well. I do have a question I will submit for the record for 
you. It deals with a 127 ECHO program, which I think is 
incredibly important in your region to maintaining stability.
    Thank you, gentlemen, very much. My time has expired. Thank 
you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator. Let me note that the 
vote has begun and recognize Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your service, testimony today. Very much appreciate it. 
Your team members behind you. I know how much they put into 
these kind of hearings.
    General Langley, I want to begin by also mentioning, we 
probably are getting the picture, we had a number of Senate 
CODELs to the region recently. I think that is actually 
important. I was part of the CODEL with Senator Rosen and seven 
U.S. Senators to the Abraham Accords countries.
    Started in Morocco. Really impressive ally, one of our 
longest standing allies anywhere in the world. I don't know to 
what specificity you can provide thoughts, and maybe this is 
kind of even against your own interests, but it did occur to me 
that I think it is time to have AFRICOM headquarters in Africa, 
somewhere. Morocco, I think they would be a great candidate. 
What do you think about that?
    General Langley. Senator, this has come up numerous times 
in the past.
    Senator Sullivan. I know, and it has been blocked by some 
Members of the Committee, and they are always like, well, we 
don't know where to put it, so let's keep it in Germany. That 
is not a good answer, right?
    Come on, we don't know where to put fricking CENTCOM's 
forward headquarters, but we chose Qatar. So, like, real 
countries make real tough decisions. What do you think we 
should do? I don't think that is a good answer, which is too 
tough. Too many good countries, so let's keep it in Germany. 
What do you think?
    General Langley. Senator, I see the--I see some utility 
being on the continent, but at this time, just with our 
processes of getting down to visit to numerous countries has 
been beneficial. As far as how we are laid out now, I think we 
are right sized. Because when we are in Europe, there is other 
partners there in proximity that we can plan----
    Senator Sullivan. What about like a CENTCOM is 
headquartered in Tampa and has a forward headquarters in Qatar. 
What about a forward headquarters for AFRICOM somewhere in----
    General Langley. Senator, I can talk about that in closed 
session because we do have something established----
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. Let me, both of you keep talking 
and the military loves the phrase, whole-of-government, all 
instruments power. We have been talking about critical 
minerals, which is really important and a big part of the 
discussion.
    How much sense does it make for the United States to shut 
down our critical mineral production capacity, as a Department 
of Interior has done in Alaska, and then you guys come here and 
say, boy, oh boy, we sure got to work on critical matters.
    Do you think that is smart, like we have--not you guys, but 
other agencies literally shutting down--There is something 
called the Amber Mining District in Alaska, one of the resource 
rich, critical mineral areas of the world. We had an 
environmental impact statement Energy Information 
Administration (EIA), 7 years, $10 million, ready to go.
    Then the Department of Interior came in and reversed that 
and said, hey, America, Alaska, start all over. We will keep 
getting critical minerals from China. Were you guys informed of 
that? Were you informed of that interior making that idiotic 
national security decision?
    General Langley. No, sir.
    Senator Sullivan. Do you think it makes sense for us to 
look at areas of critical mineral capacity in America and say, 
we are not going to do that because lower 48 environmental 
groups don't like it. You would think that makes sense from a 
national security perspective to shut down our critical mineral 
production when this whole hearing has been about critical 
minerals? Does that make sense? General, in your personal 
opinion?
    General Langley. Senator, I am just here to pass a 
cautionary tale about China and their illicit activities on the 
continent of trying to corner the critical----
    Senator Sullivan. But if we can help uncorner it by 
producing our own, doesn't that make sense?
    General Langley. Senator, I don't have a position on that.
    Senator Sullivan. Come on, General, you do have a position. 
You just don't want to say it. What is your personal opinion on 
that? Does it make sense to produce more critical minerals in 
America if we have them?
    General Langley. Senator, we can discuss that in that 
closed session about essentials for----
    Senator Sullivan. This is the problem, you talk all 
instruments of power, whole-of-government, and we don't do it. 
Again, that is not you, but it is Biden, it is the 
Administration. It is national security suicide, and we do it 
every damn day. We have shut down resource development in our 
own country. It is idiotic.
    That is the right answer, by the way. Real quick, General 
Kurilla, you mentioned Iran taking shots at our troops. Are we 
retaliating against them? I think one of the lessons we learned 
when they were providing very sophisticated IEDs [improvised 
explosive device] to kill and wound thousands of Americans in 
the 2005, 2006, 2007 timeframe, that that was a bad signal to 
let them just kill our people, the best and brightest in 
America.
    I am sure you lost soldiers to the Quds Force, IEDs, and 
until we killed Soleimani, which I think was a really important 
message, we weren't retaliating. So, I hope either covertly or 
overtly, when these guys are trying to kill Americans, which 
they are pretty good at and they do a lot, that we are sending 
messages like, all right, you want to try and kill Americans, 
game on.
    What are we doing to retaliate against these guys?
    General Kurilla. Senator, I am prepared to retaliate 
overtly, but also not all responses are overt.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. But can you assure this Committee 
that we are not just letting them try to attack Americans? You 
have already mentioned that they are--without some form of 
retaliation.
    General Kurilla. Senator, we have all the capability to be 
able to retaliate. But not all retaliations are overt.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan, and thank you, 
gentlemen, for your testimony. We have a vote on, so I would 
encourage all my colleagues to vote, and we will reconvene 
within about 15 minutes in SVC-217 for the closed session of 
this hearing. I will now adjourn the open session. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:47 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

                Questions Submitted by Senator Jack Reed
                      united states africa command
    1. Senator Reed. General Langley, the United States provides 
limited but growing assistance to fight severe malnutrition including 
through the distribution of U.S.-made Ready to Use Therapeutic Food 
(RUTF). From your perspective, how important are such efforts to United 
States Africa Command (AFRICOM) mission to ``advance U.S. national 
interests and promote regional security, stability, and prosperity''?
    General Langley. United States humanitarian and food security 
assistance is critical to United States Africa Command's (AFRICOM) 
mission to advance U.S. national interests and promote regional 
security, stability, and prosperity. Twentyseven of the fiftythree 
countries in my Area of Responsibility are enduring complex 
humanitarian and food security emergencies due to a myriad of factors. 
These countries cannot focus on security, stability, and prosperity 
when a significant percentage of their populations are struggling to 
meet basic needs. When populations are malnourished and under duress, 
this impacts every aspect of their human development and increases 
their vulnerability to communicable diseases such as COVID which 
impacts global health security. When populations are malnourished and 
under duress, AFRICOM cannot achieve our objectives to build partner 
capacity and sustain security. In addition, when complex humanitarian 
crises persist involving conflict, DOD inherits more issues to address 
such as violent extremism and protracted State failure that our 
adversaries are taking advantage of like Wagner in Mali, Central 
African Republic and other areas. USG efforts, particularly USAID's 
efforts in AFRICOM's area of responsibility, to address critical human 
development concerns such as malnutrition and food security are vital 
to AFRICOM's mission.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    2. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, 
historically, have previous Unfunded Priorities Lists items been 
included in the following year's base budget?
    General Kurilla. Mission-critical items requiring funding outside 
the base budget have historically been addressed in subsequent budget 
submissions.
    General Langley. Yes, although USAFRICOM's objective is to have 
requirements captured in the Department's base budget. The Command has 
submitted Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items in the past. For example, 
in fiscal year 2021 and fiscal year 2023, Congress provided $22 million 
for Force Protection and $14.5 million for Force Protection, 
respectively. During the annual fiscal year 2024 Program Budget Review 
(PBR) cycle, the Department included in the base budget $99.2 million 
($269.7 million across the Future Years Defense Program-fiscal years 
2024 to 2028) for Force Protection to support physical protection at 
several in-theater posture locations.

    3. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, have 
Unfunded Priorities Lists items from fiscal year 2023 been included in 
the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail 
including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor executing the 
effort. If no, why not?
    General Kurilla. For the fiscal year 2023 budget, we requested 
Congress consider adding $35 million to replace the stockpile of the 
GBU-57 Massive Ordnance Penetrator. The Massive Ordnance Penetrator 
allows us to neutralize or destroy hardened, deeply buried targets. 
This stockpile has dipped below validated levels due to necessary live 
fire testing performed with the weapon system. The Fiscal Year 2023 
Unfunded Priorities List submission simply allows us to replace those 
munitions expended in the testing. The U.S. Air Force chose not to add 
this to their fiscal year 2024 base budget until they complete a study 
on the potential replacement for this munition. The U.S. Air Force did 
fund in fiscal year 2023 additional testing on the GBU-57.
    General Langley. Yes. The command submitted fiscal year 2023 
Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items to Congress for $23.5 million for 
Force Protection and for $70.1 million for Counter-Unmanned Aircraft 
Systems (C-UAS). The Department, during the annual fiscal year 2024 
Program Budget Review (PBR) cycle, included in the base budget $99.2 
million ($269.7 million across the Future Years Defense Program--fiscal 
years 2024 to 2028) for the Force Protection submission to support 
physical protection at several in-theater posture locations and 
provided additional funding to the Joint C-UAS Office. USAFRICOM does 
not have acquisition authority and can only provide limited information 
on vendors. The Force Protection vendor in fiscal year 2024 will come 
from the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) contracts 
and equipment purchases awarded to several vendors over the fiscal 
year.

    4. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, do you 
agree that Federal agencies should be required to work within the 
confines of base budget process?
    General Kurilla. U.S. Central Command follows the budget process 
directed by the Department of Defense and the U.S. Congress. The Fiscal 
Year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act requires Combatant 
Commands to submit an Unfunded Priority List.
    As a Combatant Command with few assigned forces and no acquisition 
body, CENTCOM relies on the Military Services for most resourcing. The 
Unfunded Priorities List allows us to inform the Department of Defense 
regarding which of our mission-critical capabilities are not resourced 
by the Military Services.
    Additionally, the congressionally mandated Unfunded Priority List 
program offers an opportunity to resource against changes within the 
operational environment since delivery of the base budget. In so doing, 
the program allows CENTCOM to buy down risk to force and risk to 
mission.
    General Langley. I agree that all Federal agencies should be good 
stewards of taxpayer dollars and to abide by the law. The Department's 
fiscal year 2024 budget request seeks to adequately fund the efforts 
necessary to implement the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS). 
AFRICOM follows the current statute for submitting an annual Unfunded 
Priority List (UPL) as described within the 2017 National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA), Section 222a and as amended in the Fiscal 
Year 2022 NDAA, Section 1051, that ``the commanders of combatant 
commands shall submit to the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of 
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and to the congressional defense committees 
a report on the unfunded priorities of the combatant commands.''
                information on unfunded priorities lists
    5. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what was 
the cost of putting together this Unfunded Priorities List?
    General Kurilla. Development of the Unfunded Priority List is part 
of our annual research and budget analysis, a core staff function for 
U.S. Central Command, and elicits no additional cost.
    General Langley. AFRICOM's internal fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priority List (UPL) development process did not incur any additional 
costs over and above day-to-day costs to the Command. Instead, the 
fiscal year 2024 UPL was developed over a 3-month period by one full-
time GS-13 Federal civilian employee and two O-4 military members, at a 
reduced quarter-time need, working within the United States Africa 
Command's J8 Resources and Assessments Directorate (ACJ8). Three O-5 
military member subject matter experts (SME) and three GS-13 civilian 
employee SMEs also contributed at a reduced one-tenth need from three 
separate Command joint directorates (ACJ2/ACJ4/ACJ6). From these 
actualities, a nominal cost can be produced using the following 
assumptions: 1) a GS-13 Federal civilian or an O-5 military member 
costs approximately $120K annually; 2) one ACJ8 GS-13 working at full-
time; 3) two ACJ8 O-4s working at one-quarter time; and six other 
directorate SMEs working at one-tenth time. With these assumptions, the 
total cost for the Command to develop the fiscal year 2024 UPL equals 
approximately $63,000. This is a low-cost investment for providing risk 
mitigation to emerging and/or unfunded Command requirements that were 
unable to be fulfilled within the Department's top-line.

    For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in 
response to Title 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following 
information:

    6. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
provide a detailed description of the Unfunded Priorities Lists.
    General Kurilla.
Providing for Air Defense

a.  Air Vigilance Operations and Sustainment:

   Executive Summary: Countering Unmanned Aerial Systems is a top 
CENTCOM priority. State and non-State actors continue to mature their 
Unmanned Aerial Systems capabilities, tactics, techniques, and 
procedures at an alarming rate and present a direct threat to the 
United States and its regional partners and allies.

   Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: The Air Vigilance system delivers 
a ground-based passive signals intelligence sensor employed to detect, 
track, identify, geo-locate, and report UAS threat activities. Within 
the CENTCOM area of responsibility, 18 Air Vigilance systems in eight 
countries provide force protection capability for both forces and 
critical infrastructure.

b.  Crestone UxS Data base Inventory:

   Executive Summary: Crestone is being used operationally throughout 
the CENTCOM region to identify and track specific signals of interest. 
Funding will be used to hire additional engineers, shorten testing 
timelines, and expand the signal of interest library capacity to 
enhance defeat options against the UAS threat throughout the CENTCOM 
AOR.

   Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Additional investment in Air 
Vigilance and CRESTONE systems sustains operational capability to 
collect critical intelligence data on emerging aerial threat systems 
and provide early warning of operations in restricted air space. The 
requested funding supports the required communications transport layer 
and the maintenance services for power, heating-ventilation-air 
conditioning, and Intrusion Detection Systems. Any loss or degradation 
of our ability to collect and report on adversarial attack vectors and 
share collected data with other Geographic Combatant Commanders 
increases operational risk to United States and Partner Forces.

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              CENTCOM Fiscal Year
                 2023 Unfunded          Sub-       Program    Amount ($
  Priority     Priorities Budget      Activity     Element        in
                Line Item Number    Group (SAG)     (PE)      millions)
                     (LIN)                         Number
------------------------------------------------------------------------
             Tactical Electronic         121     0603766A       $14.7
        1    Surveillance System--
             Adv Development / Air
             Vigilance Operations
                 and Sustainment
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                          AF TENCAP / CRE012CE   0207247F       $15.0
                       Data base
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Building Joint Force Resiliency / Agile Logistics
a.  Prepositioned War Reserve Materiel (PWRM) Stockpile Readiness:

   Executive Summary: Sufficient PWRM stocks are a necessity to 
compensate for the lack of forces and footprint in theater. Additional 
investment will help build a long-term enduring advantage in managing 
risk and preparing to respond to small-scale, short-duration crises 
without substantially impairing high-end warfighting readiness caused 
by the diversion of resources. Contingency preparedness in the form of 
PWRM readiness is foundational to deterrence. Mobile prepositioned 
stocks are critical to quickly stand up temporary and smaller-scale 
logistical support locations near the point of use as conflict unfolds.

   Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Without PWRM levels requested, 
CENTCOM is unable to fully meet contingency plan operational base 
requirements in the specified time period. Funding is critical to 
filling shortages of bed-down and life support systems, fuel support 
distribution and storage equipment, and rapid runway repair sets. The 
requested $125.1 million will replenish PWRM stockpiles up to the 
quantity required to achieve a C-1 readiness rating.

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              CENTCOM Fiscal Year
                 2024 Unfunded          Sub-       Program
  Priority     Priorities Budget      Activity     Element    Cost ($ in
                Line Item Number    Group (SAG)     (PE)      millions)
                     (LIN)                         Number
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                   Expeditionary        021D     0401135F       $82.2
                 Airfield Basing
             Assets  (BEAR, AGE,
                           RADR)
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                 WRM Equipment /        021D     0208031F       $25.6
        2        Secondary Items
             (Fuels Support Equip)
            ------------------------------------------------------------
             Globally Positioned        041Z     0708550F       $16.0
                        Network CENTCOM  (GPN-
                                CENT)
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                 WRM Equipment /         212     0208031A        $4.1
             Secondary Items  (APS-
                              5)
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Innovation
a.   Data Analysis and Artificial Intelligence (AI) Initiative 
Baseline:

    Executive Summary: Additional investment is critical in moving 
CENTCOM toward leveraging data as a strategic asset. CENTCOM's military 
advantage is increasingly reliant on data-driven technologies and the 
integration of diverse data sources, elastic computing to the edge, and 
rapid software deployment. Data provides new ways and means to monitor, 
respond, and deter aggression at the speed of operations.

   Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: CENTCOM requests $8 million to 
recruit data scientists and provide hardware and technology capable of 
processing large amounts of code, and data libraries.

b.   Maven Smart System (MSS) Enterprise Licenses:

    Executive Summary: CENTCOM's military advantage is increasingly 
reliant on data-driven technologies and the integration of diverse data 
sources, elastic computing to the edge, and rapid software deployment. 
Information sharing and data analytics are principal mechanisms for 
understanding China's encroachment, illuminating Russia's activities, 
disrupting Iran's UAS / Advanced Conventional Weapons supply chains, 
and spoiling ISIS and AQ external operations. We are currently using 
MSS as a component of our Joint All Domain Command and Control (JADC2) 
capability in CENTCOM.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Funding provides CENTCOM with an 
enterprise license for users of MSS as a component of our JADC2 
capability. MSS allows users to explore and visualize the battlefield 
while increasing ability to anticipate, monitor, and respond to 
destabilizing activities from strategic competitors. Leveraging MSS as 
a strategic asset provides new ways and means to monitor, respond, and 
deter aggression at the speed of operations.

c.   Cloud Computing Environment / Cloud Transition:

    Executive Summary: Cloud Computing Environment is the foundation 
upon which CENTCOM builds and tailors effective cyber security, 
advanced analytical capabilities, command and control, and future 
enabling technologies. CENTCOM cloud strategy focuses on agility, 
flexibility, and modernization. Rapid delivery of enterprise resources 
and services result in an organization equipped to respond and fight in 
the digital age. When mission needs change, a flexible cloud-based IT 
enterprise can rapidly scale or reallocate resources or react and 
remediate incidents. The desired end State is to establish a multi-
vendor, multi-cloud ecosystem that hosts both on-and off-premise 
services across all classification levels.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Funding facilitates CENTCOM's 
migration to this new capability and provides resources to leverage 
existing systems and develop tools and protocols for secure operations 
and applications. Without these funds, CENTCOM falls short of meeting 
DOD CIO mandates. CENTCOM and coalition partner operations are put at 
risk due to increased network security threats due to the inability to 
securely manage and implement critical software / firmware updates on 
all networks and systems throughout the Command.

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              CENTCOM Fiscal Year                  Program
                 2024 Unfunded          Sub-       Element    Amount ($
  Priority    Priorities Line Item    Activity      (PE)          in
                  Number (LIN)      Group (SAG)    Number     millions)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                CCMD Dir015FMsn  0201138F        $8.0
                  Support / Data
                 Analysis and AI
                      Initiative
            ------------------------------------------------------------
       3                        CCMD Dir015FMsn  0201138F       $34.0
                   Support / MSS
                        Licenses
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                                CCMD Dir015FMsn  0201122F       $30.0
                      Support / Cloud
                    Transition /
                                Computing
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Active Campaigning:

    Executive Summary: Full Motion Video Extension Unified Relay 
(FEURY) serves as a critical enabler of precision strikes, force 
protection, and mission command within the Combined Joint Operations 
Area (CJOA). Since January 2022, seven Operation Inherit Resolve (OIR) 
FEURY sites have enabled 53 airstrikes, linked to 1,779 Rover feeds, 
and supported 5,672 total mission hours in the ongoing fight against 
Da'esh and Iranian-Aligned Militia Groups (IAMG). The situational 
awareness that FEURY provides is vital to the exercise of mission 
command, even when not resulting in an airstrike. In January 2022, 
FEURY provided decisionmakers and operators real-time, situational 
awareness of a prison break in Syria. FEURY was a vital link in 
coordinating ground force responses used to contain the situation. 
FEURY also gives Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherit Resolve 
(CJTF-OIR) the ability to monitor politically sensitive sites and the 
Iraqi forces the ability to leverage their airpower in protecting 
United States forces in a theater constrained by Force Manning Level 
(FML) limits and competing NDS priorities.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS. Service funding support for seven 
FEURY nodes in the CENTCOM area of responsibility ends in November 
2023. CJTF-OIR requires support for these seven FEURY nodes for an 
additional year to preclude gaps in Full Motion Video (FMV) capability 
while alternative means for providing similar capability is pursued. 
Complete loss of FEURY FMV would severely degrade CJTF-OIR's ability to 
identify and prosecute targets, execute mission command, and place 
personnel and CJTF-OIR missions at risk.

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              CENTCOM Fiscal Year                  Program
                 2024 Unfunded          Sub-       Element    Amount ($
  Priority    Priorities Line Item    Activity      (PE)          in
                  Number (LIN)      Group (SAG)    Number     millions)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
       4        Agile ISR / Full         011C    0305206F       $12.0
                    Motion Video
               Extension Unified
                   Relay (FEURY)
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Digital Modernization

    Executive Summary: CENTCOM Digital Modernization is essential to 
the Command's ability to maintain information and decision advantage, 
preserve C4 systems, and ensure critical kill chains. CENTCOM's Digital 
Modernization plan applies the Department of Defense 2019 Digital 
Modernization Strategy principles to develop its Future Mission 
Environment. The Future Mission Environment is an essential element for 
integrating CENTCOM into Joint All Domain Command and Control and the 
DOD Mission Partner Environment.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: The Future Mission Environment 
replaces legacy counter-violent extremist organization-oriented 
capabilities developed over the past 3 decades that tether the Command 
to fixed information technology hubs that are becoming increasingly 
vulnerable to state-based adversaries. Future Mission Environment 
implementation requires several Digital Modernization enhancements.
Zero Trust Architecture (ZTA) / Internet Protocol v6:

    Executive Summary: In existing CENTCOM networks, users and endpoint 
devices are automatically trusted within the perimeter and put the 
organization at risk from malicious internal actors and those with 
assumed legitimate credentials with unauthorized and compromised 
accounts-wide access within the network.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: With funding for Zero Trust 
Architecture, CENTCOM will be able to implement networks that leverage 
micro-segmentation, security monitoring and response, and general 
protective / preventative controls that improve an organization's cyber 
security posture and reduce risk.
Software Defined Networks:

    Executive Summary. Software Defined Networks use software-based 
controllers or application programming interfaces to communicate with 
underlying hardware infrastructure to direct network traffic. Use of 
this approach is directed in the DOD Zero Trust Reference Architecture 
/ Software Defined Networking, December 2020. SDN benefits include cost 
savings realized through reductions in time spent on manual tasks and 
improved utilization of existing CENTCOM network resources.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS. Not resourcing SDN critically 
degrades operational availability and uptime / loading of software 
upgrades to all CENTCOM networks. SDN speeds system recovery times and 
reduces CENTCOM networks failure rates.
Army Intelligence Information Technology (IT) Systems and Networks:

    Executive Summary: U.S. Army Central Command's (ARCENT) funding to 
support Army Intelligence Information Technology Systems and Networks 
has been decremented 100 percent in PB24. United States Army Central 
Command requires $5 million for the information security systems 
necessary to protect Department of Defense intellectual property and 
technical advances.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Without additional funding, the 
Joint Worldwide Intelligence Communication System network and system 
support would be severely degraded. The number of organic military 
personnel with the appropriate Military Occupational Specialty are 
insufficient to fill the contract void. The loss of JWICS support to 
OIR and Spartan Shield would result in an unacceptable loss of 
actionable intelligence to support targeting, force protection, 
collection management, and threat monitoring across the AOR.
Army Strategic Network Transport:

    Executive Summary: U.S. Army Central Command requires Command, 
Control, Communications, Computer, Information Technology (C4IT) 
infrastructure in order to direct operations, access information needed 
for situational awareness, decisionmaking, and maintain the ability to 
exchange information in a contested environment. In this role, USARCENT 
provides the C4IT capabilities and infrastructure in the Southwest Asia 
(SWA) Theater supporting Operation Spartan Shield (OSS) and CJTF-OIR. 
To meet these requirements, USARCENT requires resources for South West 
Asia (SWA) network modernization, sustainment, and service support 
necessary to meet the Theater's on-going and future operational 
requirements. Recent Theater transition, both operational and 
budgetary, has led to a gap in required funding in PB24 placing risk on 
USARCENT's ability to operate, maintain, modernize, and defend the SWA 
network.

    USARCENT provides Southwest Asia network support across theater via 
Commercial Satellite leases, Terrestrial Fiber leases, Southwest Asia 
Theater Signal Service Support, and Field Service Representatives. 
These capabilities require sufficient funding to support USARCENT, 
Joint, and Coalition operations across Southwest Asia. The decrements 
to these requirements present a high risk to the USARCENT's mission to 
provide C4IT capabilities in support of on-going operational 
requirements. Failure to fund effects the two highest priority 
requirements that support strategic communications--commercial 
satellite and terrestrial fiber leases.

    Operational Impact / Risk to NDS: Without an additional $25.3 
million in fiscal year 2024, USARCENT will be unable to lease the 
primary and alternate means of transporting data to the Department of 
Defense Information Network (DODIN) and source FSRs to maintain the 
network. Lack of funding reduces USARCENT's ability to protect and 
defend the SWA strategic network against cybersecurity threats on all 
voice, video, and data services across the Non-Secure Internet Protocol 
Router (NIPR), Secure Internet Protocol Router (SIPR), and coalition 
networks. This translates to degraded command and control and increased 
risk to operations in what remains a very kinetic and dynamic theater.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
              CENTCOM Fiscal Year                  Program
                 2024 Unfunded          Sub-       Element    Amount ($
  Priority    Priorities Line Item    Activity      (PE)          in
                  Number (LIN)      Group (SAG)    Number     millions)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                CENTCOM 015F     0201122F        $5.5
                                Communications / Zero
             Trust Architecture,
                            IPv6
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                                CENTCOM 015F     0201122F        $3.4
                                Communications /
                Software Defined
        5               Networks
            ------------------------------------------------------------
                  Military Intel         411     0305192A        $5.0
                   Program (MIP)
               Activities / Army
              Intel Info Systems
                    and Networks
            ------------------------------------------------------------
             Army IT Services Mgt        121     0208550A        $2.3
                                C2 Systems
                                   -------------------------------------
              Defense Enterprise         122     0310700A       $23.0
                    Wideband SATCOM /
                  Army Strategic
               Network Transport
------------------------------------------------------------------------

    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) addresses actions to establish a Somalia persistent presence 
to further ensure strategic access, confine Violent Extremist 
Organizations (VEOs), secure Sea Lines of Communication and limit 
competitor military expansion. More precisely, a lodgment in Somalia 
will serve to degrade the growing threat from al-Shabaab, assure 
freedom of navigation through the Bab al Mandab sea-lane chokepoint, 
and monitor the expanding Chinese presence in Djibouti. In addition, 
USAFRICOM requires Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) 
services and bandwidth increases to meet Departmental High-Risk ISR 
requirements for the African theater. Next, USAFRICOM Command and 
Control (C2) services and capabilities on the African Continent must be 
addressed to ensure USAFRICOM is postured for network resiliency and 
survivability in a denied, degraded, intermittent or limited (DDIL) 
communications environment. Last, USAFRICOM requires additional 
commercial satellite leases to compensate for the shortage of 
communication access on the African continent.

    7. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what does 
the Unfunded Priority List purchase?
    General Kurilla. The Unfunded Priority List purchases mission-
critical capabilities not funded within the base budget, thereby buying 
down risk to force and risk to mission. As combatant commands do not 
procure military capabilities, the Unfunded Priority List is necessary 
to mitigate risk.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) request that supports the return to persistent presence in 
Somalia addresses estimated one-time costs including: $42.0 million for 
airfield improvements, $43.0 million to improve life support areas, 
$11.0 million for communications improvements, and $56.0 million for 
increases in basic life support/communications costs.. Our High-Risk 
Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL will purchase 
additional contract ISR services, comprised of B-350 and MQ-9 aircraft, 
and will provide additional bandwidth and associated processing, 
exploitation, and dissemination (PED). Meanwhile our Command and 
Control (C2) Resiliency UPL will purchase information technology (IT) 
equipment to enable network resiliency and survivability on the African 
continent, and the Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL 
would procure COMSATCOM services to compensate for the shortage of 
communication access on the African continent.

    8. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
include detail on all end items with quantities, contractor full-time 
employees (FTE), etc.
    General Kurilla. All such details are provided by the Military 
Services as they are directed to resource any items on our Unfunded 
Priority List.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List request (UPL) that supports the return to persistent presence in 
Somalia addresses required infrastructure and communications 
improvements and associated sustainment. The request does not intend to 
procure specific end items or hire specific contractor manpower 
equivalents. Our High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL item will purchase contract ISR services that 
will provide three B-350's and two MQ-9 lines (4 aircraft each), 
additional data bandwidth, and the associated processing, exploitation, 
and dissemination (PED) of data. Our Command and Control (C2) 
Resiliency UPL item will purchase network and computer equipment, 
digital storage equipment, peripheral keyboard, video, and mice (KVM) 
switches, cryptographic material, facility infrastructure upgrades, and 
a surge installation labor team. Our Commercial Satellite 
Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL item will be for a satellite 
communications services contract for satellite communication bandwidth. 
The government would not receive end items or labor.

    9. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what 
specific capability will the Unfunded Priorities List provide?
    General Kurilla. Our submitted Unfunded Priority List is intended 
to provide a range of mission-critical capabilities not funded within 
the base budget, thereby buying down risk to force and risk to mission.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) addresses actions to establish a Somalia persistent presence 
to further ensure strategic access, confine Violent Extremist 
Organizations (VEOs), secure Sea Lines of Communication, and limit 
competitor military expansion. The funding will fully enable U.S. 
military capabilities to degrade the ability of VEOs to threaten the 
U.S. Homeland, allow ready crisis response, guarantee strategic access 
to support U.S. contingency plan execution, isolate and delay strategic 
competitor military expansion in the Command's area of responsibility, 
and limit spillover impacts on other Combatant Commands/North Atlantic 
Treaty Organization (NATO). The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, 
and Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL will increase time-on-station for 
collection coverage in East, North, and West Africa. For East Africa, 
this equates to increased Full Motion Video (FMV) and Signals 
Intelligence (SIGINT) collection, target development, and force 
protection to support United States periodic engagement and partner 
nation operations in high-risk areas. For North Africa, this equates to 
increased FMV and SIGINT collection against Global Power Competition 
(GPC) requirements and supports Key Leader Engagements (KLE). For West 
Africa, this equates to increased FMV and SIGINT collection against VEO 
operations, target development, and support to Allied partners. The 
Command and Control (C2) Resiliency UPL will enable a continent-based 
network at Camp Lemonnier, Djibouti-Horn of Africa (CLDJ-HOA) to 
function independently in a denied, degraded, intermittent, and limited 
(DDIL) environment independent from Europe, the location of the greater 
USAFRICOM enterprise network. The Commercial Satellite Communications 
(COMSATCOM) UPL will compensate for the shortage of communications 
access across the African continent.

    10. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what gap 
will this fill that is not in the base budget?
    General Kurilla. All of these gaps are identified in the executive 
summary and the operational impact if not funded portion of question #5 
that outlines each Unfunded Priority List items and risk associated.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) addresses an emerging requirement with the return to 
persistent presence in Somalia that was identified, approved by the 
President, and planned out of sequence with the Department's yearly 
Program Budget Review (PBR) cycle. It addresses un-programmed costs to 
the Services for Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) 
not identified within the Department's recently concluded fiscal years 
2024 to 2028 PBR. It addresses un-programmed costs for Command and 
Control (C2) Resiliency to address a threat that emerged after 
USAFRICOM's Program Objective Memorandum (POM) fiscal years 2024 to 
2028 submission to establish a standalone, on-continent network 
necessary for a resilient Defense Ecosystem. Finally, the Commercial 
Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL will compensate for the 
shortage of communication access across the African continent since 
USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 2024 to 2028 submission.

    11. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how will 
this capability support objectives outlined in current National 
Security, Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General Kurilla. The capabilities identified in our Unfunded 
Priorities List all serve to enhance CENTCOM's support of the 
objectives outlined in the U.S. National Security Strategy, National 
Military Strategy, and National Defense Strategy.
    The National Military Strategy and National Defense Strategy both 
identify the People's Republic of China as the Nation's pacing 
challenge and Russia as its acute threat. Meanwhile, the National 
Defense Strategy identifies Iran and Violent Extremist Organizations as 
persistent threats. All of these threats and challenges are active in 
the CENTCOM region. The systems, programs, and capabilities identified 
in the CENTCOM Unfunded Priorities List all serve to address them.
    The CENTCOM region holds the greatest risk of derailment of the 
National Security Strategy and the National Defense Strategy, both of 
which correctly prioritize the Indo-Pacific region. A flashpoint with 
Iran, a crisis in the world's central region, a successful large-scale 
attack on a partner country, or an attack on the Homeland by a Violent 
Extremist Organization all will likely require a response, drawing 
unplanned resources away from higher priority theaters into the Central 
Command region. Therefore, the CENTCOM Unfunded Priorities List can 
serve as a hedge against derailment of national strategy.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) addresses capabilities that fully support National Defense 
Strategy (NDS) priorities, the National Military Strategy (NMS) in 
accordance with the concept of Strategic Discipline, the Department's 
NDS-Implementation (NDS-I) Memo, and the USAFRICOM NDS-I Memo. For 
example, the 2022 NMS tasks USAFRICOM to reinforce diplomacy and 
strengthen relationships with Allies and Partners. Our return to 
Somalia and partnership with the administration of Somali President 
Hassan Sheikh Mohamud, is vital in the fight against Violent Extremist 
Organizations (VEOs) in the region. Further, this requirement fully 
supports the Department's direction in the recently published fiscal 
years 2025 to 2029 Defense Planning Guidance dated 22 February 2023. 
The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL 
will further the Command's efforts to monitor, react to, and shape the 
strategic environment while fully aligning with the NDS's approach to 
Africa. Both the Command and Control (C2) Resiliency and Commercial 
Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPLs support the NDS, as it calls 
on the Joint Force to build a resilient Defense Ecosystem. They are 
also fully supported by the NMS in accordance with the concept of 
Strategic Discipline, as well as the Department's NDS-I Memorandum.

    12. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
the operational requirement and how does this Unfunded Priorities List 
support current or future operations?
    General Kurilla. The response to question 5 offers a detailed 
description of the operational requirement for each item on our 
Unfunded Priorities List.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) request supports establishing an operational/persistent 
presence in Somalia that prioritizes strategic access, confines Violent 
Extremist Organizations, and limits competitor military expansion. This 
requirement enhances the reliability of existing airfield 
infrastructure and life support areas which addresses operational risks 
at the USAFRICOM posture locations in support of persistent presence in 
Somalia. The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance 
(ISR) UPL will increase services provided by specialized, manned B-350 
aircraft and contract MQ-9 aircraft. These platforms provide 
intelligence collection operations with sufficient range and 
flexibility in deployment locations, and are politically acceptable on 
the African continent. The Command and Control (C2) Resiliency UPL 
addresses an emerging threat for increased capability and required 
resiliency particularly in the area of cyber security needs for the 
USAFRICOM C2 enterprise network. The Commercial Satellite 
Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL fulfills the need to communicate with 
units in austere locations supporting all USAFRICOM assigned missions/
operations on the Africa continent.

    13. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
the operational impact if this Unfunded Priorities Lists is not funded 
in fiscal year 2024?
    General Kurilla. The response to question 5 offers a detailed 
description of the risk associated with failure to fund each item on 
our Unfunded Priorities List.
    General Langley. For the return to a persistent presence in 
Somalia, if unfunded, there would be a direct and significant increase 
in risk to mission and risk to force for United States forces operating 
in/near East Africa If the High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL is not funded, the threat to U.S. forces 
conducting operations in the USAFRICOM area of operations (AOR) will 
remain high risk. This is due to the limitations of available airborne 
ISR platforms and the need to balance force protection against 
operational objectives. In a not-so-distant past, 83 percent of 
available ISR assets committed to an AFRICOM operation were re-tasked 
to support another Command's operation. For the Command and Control 
(C2) Resiliency UPL, lack of funding would add risk to on-continent 
USAFRICOM operations and Enterprise Network (AEN) resiliency if the 
European based network were to be compromised. By not funding the 
Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL, force protection/
security personnel, C2 communications, day-to-day troop communications, 
base support activities, as well as special operations units working 
with local partner forces at continent posture locations would incur 
significant risk to force and risk to mission.

    14. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, are there 
plans to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General Kurilla. As we do every year, we will coordinate with the 
Military Services for the fiscal year 2025 base budget requirements.
    General Langley. Yes, USAFRICOM will continue to advocate for our 
Command's Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items to be included in the DOD 
fiscal year 2025 base budget. We do this through our annual Advocacy 
Letters provided to the Services and many Agencies, along with the 
annual DOD Program Budget Review (PBR) process.

    15. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, why was 
this Unfunded Priorities List not included in the fiscal year 2024 
President Budget (PB) submission?
    General Kurilla. These items were submitted to the Military 
Services. Based on internal priorities, the Services did not include 
these items in their Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget submissions.
    General Langley. The fiscal year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) includes the Presidential-ordered return to persistent 
presence in Somalia. This is an emerging requirement directed by the 
President and out of sequence with the Department's Annual Program 
Budget Review (PBR) cycle. Somalia Persistence Presence addresses un-
programmed cost to the Services not identified within the Department's 
recently concluded fiscal year 2024 PBR. The High-Risk Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL addresses Joint Staff 
validated, but consistently unfulfilled requirements for the USAFRICOM 
area of operations. The Command and Control (C2) Resiliency requirement 
emerged after USAFRICOM's Program Objective Memorandum (POM) fiscal 
years 2024 to 2028 submission. The Commercial Satellite Communications 
(COMSATCOM) requirement was included in USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 
2024 to 2028 submission but ultimately not funded by the Army.
    16. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
the name of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General Kurilla. We rely on the Services and Service Support 
Agencies to select the vendors and let the contracts to deliver the 
capability we require to meet our National Defense Strategy objectives.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority and 
can only provide limited information. For the fiscal year 2024 
USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items, the return to persistence 
presence in Somalia will be executed via multiple means to include a 
combination of troop labor, the Army's Logistics Civil Augmentation 
Program (LOGCAP) life support task orders (incoming performance 
contractor is Fluor), and through competitively awarded supply and 
construction contracts by cognizant contracting offices, in accordance 
with the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) and associated 
supplements. The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL requirements will be executed through the 
current USAFRICOM Reconnaissance Intelligence Exploitation Services 
(ARIES) contract. The ARIES contract is administered by the General 
Services Administration (GSA) and was awarded to Smartronix, LLC. The 
Command and Control (C2) Resiliency UPL requirements will be satisfied 
by a variety of information technology (IT) equipment using government 
contracts. The Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL will 
be executed on an existing USAFRICOM COMSATCOM contract with SES S.A. 
and Peraton.

    17. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how often 
has your command met with the vendor executing this effort? Please 
provide a list of all such meetings, and the agenda for these meetings?
    General Kurilla. As a Combatant Command, we are reliant on the 
Services and Services Support Agencies to meet with vendors.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority. In 
general, USAFRICOM does not meet with specific vendors, as this is a 
function of our lead service components and subordinate contracting 
activities. USAFRICOM publishes guidance on engagements with non-
Federal entities in an internal instruction. USAFRICOM J5 Strategy, 
Engagement, and Programs Directorate has a non-Federal entity 
``gatekeeper'' that coordinates engagements with members of industry.

    18. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
your history with this vendor? Please detail when the relationship 
began, the number of contracts applied for by this vendor, the number 
of contracts awarded to this vendor, and if you have had a personal 
relationship with the vendor.
    General Kurilla. As a Combatant Command, we are reliant on the 
Services and Services Support Agencies to meet with vendors.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority. In 
general, USAFRICOM does not meet with specific vendors, track the 
number of contracts bid by a vendor, or track the number of contracts 
awarded to a vendor. These are functions performed by our lead service 
components and subordinate contracting activities. There are no 
personal relationships established.

    19. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, has anyone 
who formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in 
meetings?
    General Kurilla. We do not participate in vendor meetings and do 
not track vendor representation.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM Office of Legal Counsel provides 
comprehensive post-employment guidance to outgoing personnel. USAFRICOM 
does not prohibit or track employment of former personnel by commercial 
entities. However, those prospective employees are subject to post-
service employment rules as stipulated in the Code of Federal Ethics.

    20. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
their name, what was their position, and when did you meet with them?
    General Kurilla. We do not participate in vendor meetings and do 
not track vendor representation.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM Office of Legal Counsel provides 
comprehensive post-employment guidance to outgoing personnel. USAFRICOM 
does not prohibit or track employment of former personnel by commercial 
entities. However, those prospective employees are subject to post-
service employment rules as stipulated in the Code of Federal Ethics.

    21. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, in which 
city/State will the Unfunded Priorities Lists be executed?
    General Kurilla. We do not participate in vendor meetings and do 
not track vendor representation.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority and 
can only provide limited information. Somalia Persistent Presence, 
High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) and 
Command and Control (C2) Resiliency, would be executed Outside 
Continental United States (OCONUS). The Commercial Satellite 
Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL would be executed in Manassas, VA, 
Tampa, FL, and Herndon VA.

    22. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who and what is the 
history of the contract?
    General Kurilla. We rely on the Services and Service Support 
Agencies to select the vendors and let the contract to deliver the 
capability we require to meet our National Defense Strategy objectives.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority and 
can only provide limited information. For the fiscal year 2024 
USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items, the return to a 
persistent presence in Somalia would be executed via multiple means to 
include a combination of troop labor, the Army's Logistics Civil 
Augmentation Program (LOGCAP) life support task orders (incoming 
performance contractor is Fluor), and through competitively awarded 
supply and construction contracts by cognizant contracting offices, in 
accordance with the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) and associated 
supplements. The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL requirements would be executed on an existing 
contract with Smartronix, LLC that currently provides contract ISR 
services. The current contract was awarded in August 2022 and is a 
follow-on to a previous contract. The Command and Control (C2) 
Resiliency UPL requirements will be satisfied by a variety of 
information technology (IT) equipment using government contracts. The 
Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPL requirements would 
be executed via multiple existing contracts with SES S.A. and Peraton.

    23. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what is 
the anticipated contract award date if the Unfunded Priorities Lists 
receives funding?
    General Kurilla. We rely on the Services and Service Support 
Agencies to select the vendors and let the contract to deliver the 
capability we require to meet our National Defense Strategy objectives.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM does not have acquisition authority. Due 
to the critically of these Unfunded Items, USAFRICOM would seek our 
Components to award contracts as soon as funds are made available.

    24. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what 
funding lines are associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General Kurilla. Development of the Unfunded Priority List is part 
of our annual research and budget analysis, a core staff function for 
U.S. Central Command, and elicits no additional cost.
    General Langley. The funding lines associated with our Unfunded 
Priorities List are identified in the answer to question 5.

                                           Somalia Persistent Presence
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                              Fiscal Year 2024
      APPN           BSO         LI          BA          AG         SAG           PE            Request ($ in
                                                                                                  millions)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          OMN          60           1C6C       01           1C         6C       0201109N                 $88.6
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          OMN          60           1C1C       01           1C         1C       0201109N                 $26.5
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          OPN          60         126          07                     02        0201109N                 $36.9
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total......                                                                                           $152
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


                              High-Risk ISR
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                       Fiscal Year 2024
      ROC             SAG                PE             Request ($ in
                                                          millions)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
         8K0             411              0303025A                $95.3
------------------------------------------------------------------------
         8K0             411              0303025A                 $2.1
------------------------------------------------------------------------
         8K0             411              0303025A               $121.7
------------------------------------------------------------------------
         8K0             411              0303025A                 $4.7
------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total.....                                                   $223.8
------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                        Enterprise C2 Network Resiliency
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                                             Fiscal Year 2024
       LIN              BSA           SAG           Army PE               OSD PE               Request ($ in
                                                                                                 millions)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    3002BD3000            02            93          BE4162000                0219900A                     $10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total........                                                                                         $10
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


             Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                      Fiscal Year 2024
      LIN            SAG       Army PE     OSD PE       Request ($ in
                                                          millions)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                      141    141209000   0201109A                  $12
------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total......                                                    $12
------------------------------------------------------------------------


    25. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, if 
multiple appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations 
be funded simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each 
appropriation stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    General Kurilla. No single Unfunded Priorities List item is split 
between multiple appropriations.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM requires all appropriations to be funded 
simultaneously to synchronize efforts within each individual fiscal 
year 2024 USAFRICOM Unfunded Priority List (UPL) item.

    26. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how much 
was enacted and obligated (or expended for research, development, test, 
and evaluation (RDT&E)) in fiscal years 2022 to 2023 for this 
requirement?
    General Kurilla. The services have expended funds for similar types 
of capabilities, but we cannot identify specific allocations to our 
requirements identified in the UPL.
    General Langley. No research, development, test, and evaluation 
(RDT&E) funding was enacted or obligated for any of our fiscal year 
2024 Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items in fiscal years 2022 to 2023.

    27. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how much 
was requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General Kurilla. The services have expended funds for similar types 
of capabilities, but we cannot identify specific allocations to our 
requirements identified in the UPL.
    General Langley. Given the emergent nature of the Somalia 
Persistent Presence requirement, execution represents an un-programmed 
cost to the Services and was not identified within the Department's 
recently concluded fiscal years 2024 to 2028 Program Budget Review 
(PBR). Consequently, this fiscal year 2024 Unfunded Priority List (UPL) 
funding request is USAFRICOM's attempt to secure funding. For the High-
Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) UPL item, 
USAFRICOM requested $223.8 million in its Program Objective Memorandum 
(POM) fiscal years 2024 to 2028 submission through the Army and DOD's 
fiscal years 2024 to 2028 Program Budget Review (PBR) processes. The 
Command and Control (C2) Resiliency item emerged after the Army's POM 
process for fiscal year 2024. The Commercial Satellite Communications 
(COMSATCOM) item was included in USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 2024 to 
2028 submission through the Army for $12.0 million.

    28. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, is there a 
tail associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General Kurilla. Some of the capabilities will require sustainment 
after fielding and integration. Exact costs will be driven by chosen 
solutions to meet the requirements, and we will incorporate the costs 
in future budget requests.
    General Langley. The return to persistent presence in Somalia will 
require annual basic life support and communications sustainment. The 
High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) and 
Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) UPLs will continue to 
be a requirement at the increased level, as these services will be 
required across the Fiscal Year Defense Plan. The Command and Control 
(C2) Resiliency UPL will have an annual sustainment requirement and an 
equipment refresh requirement every 3 years.

    29. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, is any 
tail funded in the future years defense plan?
    General Kurilla. Once solutions are identified and resourced, we 
will incorporate the associated costs in future planning and 
programming.
    General Langley. Tails associated with the return to persistent 
presence in Somalia have not been funded in the future years defense 
plan due to the emerging nature of the requirement. Tails for our other 
three Unfunded Priority List (UPL) items, i.e., High-Risk Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR), Command and Control (C2) 
Resiliency, and Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) 
requirements are included in USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 2025 to 2029 
submission to the Army.

    30. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
describe how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 
years.
    General Kurilla. The breakdown of associated costs will be driven 
by selected solutions to our required capabilities and how the services 
integrate those requirements into their budgets.
    General Langley. The return to persistent presence requires annual 
basic life support and communications sustainment is approximately 
$97.0 million per year. The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, and 
Reconnaissance (ISR) cost per year is $224.0 million. The Command and 
Control (C2) Resiliency requirement is $600,000 per year with an 
equipment refresh cost of approximately $14.0 million in fiscal year 
2027. The Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) requirement 
is $12.0 million per year.

    31. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
provide in detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this 
requirement, including if it was in the base budget or Unfunded 
Priorities Lists.
    General Kurilla. We have not previously requested funding for the 
requirements identified in our UPL. The capabilities identified address 
emerging threats and changes in our operational environment.
    General Langley. Given the emergent nature of the return to 
persistent presence in Somalia, the requirements were not identified 
within the Department's recently concluded fiscal years 2024 to 2028 
Program Budget Review (PBR). The High-Risk Intelligence, Surveillance, 
and Reconnaissance (ISR) requirement was submitted as an Unfunded 
Priority List (UPL) item for fiscal year 2023 (Requested: $219.4 
million, Funded: $50 million). In addition, the requirement was 
included in USAFRICOM's fiscal years 2024 to 2028 PBR submission and 
USAFRICOM's Program Objective Memorandum (POM) fiscal years 2024 to 
2028 and fiscal years 2025 to 2029 submissions. The Command and Control 
(C2) Resiliency requirement was submitted as an UPL item in fiscal year 
2023 (Requested: $10.0 million, Funded: $0.0 million). The requirement 
was included in USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 2025 to 2029 submission to 
the Army. The Commercial Satellite Communications (COMSATCOM) 
requirement was submitted as an UPL item in fiscal year 2023 
(Requested: $17.75 million, Funded: $0.0 million). The requirement was 
included in USAFRICOM's POM fiscal years 2025 to 2029 submission to the 
Army.

    32. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, if the 
requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will that 
be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General Kurilla. If a decision is made to fund any of the 
capabilities in our UPL, we will incorporate the associated costs in 
future submissions to the service POMs.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM has requested the Services include these 
requirements in the next Program Objective Memorandum.

    33. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
provide photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    General Kurilla. We rely on the Services and Service Support 
Agencies to select the vendors and let the contract to deliver the 
capability we require to meet our National Defense Strategy objectives. 
Because the Services will select the vendors, we do not know who they 
will select; therefore, do not have pictures.
    General Langley.

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                        civilian harm mitigation
                        
                        
    34. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how many 
subordinate commanders are currently authorized to provide ex gratia 
payments under section 1213 within U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) and 
AFRICOM, respectively?
    General Kurilla. I have retained approval authority to provide ex 
gratia payments at my level. However, each of my subordinate commanders 
at echelon across CENTCOM actively considers ex gratia payment when 
reviewing each civilian casualty scenario in theater that meets 
statutory requirements.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM has not delegated ex gratia payment 
authority to any subordinate commanders.

    35. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what 
training does CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, provide to commanders 
on providing ex gratia payments? Please provide details on what this 
training consists of, the training length, how often a commander 
receives an updated training on this, and when this training was last 
updated.
    General Kurilla. In concert with my guidance, all my subordinate 
commanders receive legal consultation regarding ex gratia payment 
statutory authority.
    General Langley. AFRICOM does not provide training to subordinate 
commands on providing ex gratia payments. The Office of Under Secretary 
of Defense Memorandum on Interim Regulations for Condolence or Sympathy 
Payments to Friendly Civilians for Injury or Loss That Is Incident to 
Military Operations dated 22 June 2022 states that ``The authority to 
approve ex gratia payments under section 1213 is delegated to 
geographic commanders. Geographic combatant commanders may further 
delegate this authority to subordinate commanders''. CDR AFRICOM has 
retained this authority for AFRICOM, and therefore does not require a 
training program for subordinate commanders.

    36. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, for how 
many cases did CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, consider providing ex 
gratia payments? If it did not ultimately provide an ex gratia payment 
after considering it, please detail why this was the case.
    General Kurilla. My subordinate commanders consider ex gratia 
payments for all incidents of damage, personal injury, or death that 
meet the conditions of section 1213 of the National Defense 
Authorization Act for 2020. To date, during my time as CENTCOM 
commander, we've not had an event that meets these conditions.
    General Langley. Since January 1, 2021, USAFRICOM has conducted six 
civilian casualty assessments with one being substantiated and five 
unsubstantiated. The one substantiated assessment was from a U.S. 
airstrike conducted on 1 January 2021 in support of operations. 
USAFRICOM works with the Federal Government of Somalia and the United 
States Department of State to determine the appropriate measures for 
civilian casualty response, including ex gratia.

    37. Senator Warren. General Kurilla, the Department of Defense 
(DOD) admitted to 12 civilian deaths and 2 civilian injuries resulting 
from United States military operations in Afghanistan in 2021 in its 
``Annual Report on Civilian Casualties in Connection with United States 
Military Operations in 2021''. Yet the Department of Defense only made 
one ex gratia payment in 2021 for the death of a civilian in 
Afghanistan on January 8, 2021. Why has CENTCOM failed to provide these 
payments despite an annual $3 million authorization from Congress to do 
so?
    General Kurilla. I intend to offer ex gratia payment to the family 
from the August 29, 2021 strike in Kabul that tragically killed ten 
civilians once the entire family has safely arrived in the United 
States.

    38. Senator Warren. General Kurilla, how much was the ex gratia 
payment that CENTCOM provided for the death of one civilian in 
Afghanistan on January 8, 2021?
    General Kurilla. An ex gratia payment of $5,000 was delivered 
directly to the primary beneficiary of the civilian killed in that 
event.

    39. Senator Warren. General Langley, the Department of Defense 
admitted to 3 civilian injuries resulting from United States military 
operations in Somalia in 2021 in its ``Annual Report on Civilian 
Casualties in Connection with United States Military Operations in 
2021''. Yet the Department of Defense did not make any ex gratia 
payments. Why has AFRICOM failed to provide these payments despite an 
annual $3 million authorization from Congress to do so?
    General Langley. In June 2021, USAFRICOM released its Civilian 
Casualty Assessment Quarterly Report; which substantiated three 
civilian casualties following a United States airstrike in the vicinity 
of Qunyo Barrow, Somalia, on January 1, 2021. After a thorough 
assessment of the information and circumstances following the January 
1, 2021, airstrike, USAFRICOM assessed that more likely than not, the 
airstrike inadvertently injured three (3) civilians. USAFRICOM, working 
with the Federal Government of Somalia and the United States Department 
of State, determines the applicable actions for civilian casualty 
response, including ex gratia. To date, no individuals have been 
identified or organizations representing the victims have come forward. 
Because al-Shabaab has access to public information about United States 
military operations, the embassy or partner may determine it is not 
safe for individuals to receive monetary compensation or public 
recognition in the media. Al-Shabaab regularly taxes citizens and 
punishes them for perceived complicity with its enemies, including the 
United States. USAFRICOM's ability to ensure al-Shabaab would not seize 
ex gratia payments or punish civilians is limited. The limited number 
of United States military personnel in Somalia and the potential 
impacts to United States force protection are considered when 
identifying the feasibility of a U.S. representative meeting with 
prospective ex gratia recipients.

    40. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what steps 
is CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, taking to use ex gratia payments 
more frequently when there are civilian casualties resulting from U.S. 
military operations?
    General Kurilla. My commanders and I will actively consider ex 
gratia payments for each civilian casualty that meets the statutory and 
regulatory requirements. When applicable, we also consider beneficiary 
requests made under the Foreign Claims Act, as well as all other 
authorized measures to provide redress for any civilian casualties.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM's approach and response to civilian harm 
is based on legal, moral, strategic, operational, and other military 
considerations. USAFRICOMs response efforts reflect on U.S. and our 
professional military values, including the importance of preserving 
human life. Under the law of war, commanders, at all levels, have a 
great responsibility to exercise the leadership necessary to reduce the 
risk of harm to civilians and civilian objects. USAFRICOM demands that 
our leaders demonstrate moral leadership in the conduct of combat 
operations, maintain the support of partner s and vulnerable 
populations, and avoid unnecessary civilian harm. An ``ex gratia 
payment'' may be one of several possible response options that might be 
appropriate for DOD to take when U.S. military operations injure or 
kill a civilian or damage or destroy civilian property. Other possible 
response options could include an acknowledgement of responsibility, 
medical care, or other appropriate measures that may be consistent with 
mission objectives and applicable law. Such action help express 
condolences, sympathy, or goodwill, and are used to support mission 
objectives. Such actions are not required by law, does not constitute 
an admission of wrongdoing, and is not for the purpose of compensating 
the victim or the victim's family for their loss. Any ex gratia will be 
in accordance with Section 1213 of Public Law 116-92 and DOD 
regulations for implementing the authority in section 1213 to make 
payments. USAFRICOM adheres to the Office of the Under Secretary of 
Defense Memorandum on Interim Regulations for Condolence or Sympathy 
Payments to Friendly Civilians for Injury or Loss That Is Incident to 
Military Operations dated 22 June 2022. AFRICOM, when allegation is 
received, considers all the relevant factors, determines the cause of 
the damage, injury, or death, determines whether the prospective 
recipient is ``friendly to the U.S.'', obtains legal advice, and then 
compiles, maintains, and submits a written record of the decided ex-
gratia action.

    41. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, how does 
CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, plan to accurately apply the ``more 
likely than not'' standard of credibility for reports of civilian 
casualties amidst concerns from a RAND Corporation report on ``U.S. 
Department of Defense Civilian Casualty Policies and Procedures'' that 
DOD applies a standard that is ``higher than advertised'' and ``often 
required having positive proof indicating civilian harm in military 
information''?
    General Kurilla. CENTCOM has fully implemented the August 2022 
Department of Defense Civilian Harm Mitigation and Response Plan, to 
include the standard that civilian casualties were more likely incurred 
than not. We will have no problem applying this standard to any kinetic 
situation in our theater.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM takes stringent measures to prevent 
civilian casualties. Protecting civilians remains a vital part of the 
command's operations to promote greater security for all Africans. 
USAFRICOM, when it identifies or is notified of a civilian casualty 
allegation, seeks out and considers all public and classified sources 
of available information when deciding if civilian casualties ``more 
likely than not'' occurred as the result of an USAFRICOM operation.
    USAFRICOM leverages information from Non-Government Organizations, 
public and social media venues, and all-sources of intelligence 
capabilities available at the time to determine the credibility of the 
allegation and to as accurately as feasible determine the ``more likely 
than not'' standard of credibility. USAFRICOM continues to be as 
transparent as possible by providing a quarterly civilian casualty 
report to the public through its public website and provide the public 
the ability to report any allegations of civilian casualties in their 
native language. USAFRICOM is confident in their processes and 
capabilities of their people to mitigate the potential for civilian 
casualties, but also recognizes the absolute necessity for continuous 
assessments and improvements of those same processes and capabilities.

    42. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what steps 
is CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, taking to give proper weight to 
civilian casualty reporting from outside sources?
    General Kurilla. In any report or concern of civilian harm, CENTCOM 
incorporates and gives weight to credible information provided by Non-
Governmental Organizations, eyewitnesses, or media outlets.
    General Langley. USAFRICOMs policy is to assess all allegations of 
civilian casualties regardless of source, especially outside sources. 
For example, in 2021 all reports of potential civilian casualties that 
USAFRICOM assessed were from public sources such as news media and 
social media accounts, with few reports received from NGO's or through 
the electronic form on USAFRICOM's website. Additionally, USAFRICOM 
reconsiders existing assessments of civilian causality if new relevant 
information becomes available through any source to include new 
information received from NGO's, media reporting, the USAFRICOM 
Civilian Causality Portal, or other outside organizations.

    43. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what steps 
is CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, taking to proactively seek out 
and incorporate information regarding civilian casualties from external 
sources, such as non-governmental organizations, in assessing and 
investigating reports of civilian casualties resulting from U.S. 
military operations?
    General Kurilla. Our leadership in Tampa as well as our operational 
and component commands across the region have established relationships 
with international and regional Non-Governmental Organizations that 
report civilian harm. We also routinely coordinate with regional media 
outlets on sensitive issues. In the event of a report of civilian 
casualties we will not wait for information to come in to us; we will 
activate these networks and aggressively seek analysis, eyewitness 
reports, and open source information.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM investigates allegations of United 
States military-caused civilian casualties regardless of source. 
USAFRICOM proactively identifies claims of civilian harm from United 
States operations by monitoring media websites used in Africa, public 
social media, and through USAFRICOM's public website. Maintaining 
channels of communication for engagement with civil society 
organizations and international organizations, including those that 
engage in or support humanitarian activities, assist USAFRICOM's 
efforts to ensure that the Command's assessments are accurate. 
USAFRICOM encourages these organizations to assist in efforts to reduce 
civilian harm. USAFRICOM has had several meetings with non-governmental 
organizations (NGO's) to learn their processes and to establish better 
lines of communication, which facilitates the discussion of civilian 
harm prevention. In July 2022, USAFRICOM hosted a Protection of 
Civilians Working Group with an NGO that operates on the African 
continent.

    44. Senator Warren. General Langley, according to the ``Annual 
Report on Civilian Casualties in Connection with United States Military 
Operations in 2021'', AFRICOM reopened an assessment regarding reports 
that a joint Somali-United States military operation caused civilian 
casualties on May 9, 2018. Please provide an explanation for why 
AFRICOM maintained its original conclusion that the report was not 
credible.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM reopened this assessment based on 
information received in 2021 through the USAFRICOM on-line reporting 
portal. The Command publicly reported the decision to re-open the 
assessment to illustrate USAFRICOM's commitment to thoroughness, 
accuracy and transparency regarding potential occurrences of civilian 
harm. After a review of the information provided, USAFRICOM's 
assessment remained unchanged because the further inquiry did not 
provide any new details that were not considered in the initial 
assessment. The events that generated the civilian casualty allegation 
were not a result of USAFRICOM actions.

    45. Senator Warren. General Kurilla and General Langley, what does 
CENTCOM and AFRICOM, respectively, consider to be ``credible'' reports 
of civilian harm resulting from U.S.-origin arms?
    General Kurilla. We evaluate each concern of civilian harm with 
care and sensitivity to the civilian population. Rather than 
unambiguous evidence, which is not always available after a kinetic 
strike, we seek the best assessment of the information available in 
search of a standard that civilian harm was ``more likely than not.'' 
We will conduct every such investigation with transparency, and we will 
give weight to credible on-the-ground reports.
    General Langley. Presidential Executive Order 13732, which provides 
the pre-and post-strike measures to address civilian casualty, is only 
for U.S. operations involving the use of force and the 2018 NDAA 
requires an annual report on civilian casualties in connection with 
U.S. military operations. Neither document requires the U.S. military 
to conduct, or report on, civilian casualty investigations for non-U.S. 
military operations including those that may have involved U.S.-
``origin arms.'' USAFRICOM does not formally investigate civilian 
casualty allegations that do not involve U.S. military personnel 
conducting operations. For allegations that involve USAFRICOM military 
operations, this Command determines ``credibility'' using all 
reasonably available information to make a determination that the 
potential exists that a civilian casualty could have occurred. 
Available information can consist of, but not limited to, video 
surveillance from Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) 
assets, other forms of intelligence collection, munition employment and 
function data, and post-strike assessments.

    46. Senator Warren. General Kurilla, a January Oxfam report found 
that ``that air raids by the Saudi-led coalition, using weapons solely 
supplied by the UK and U.S., accounted for a quarter of all attacks'' 
on civilians from January 2021 through February 2022. These air strikes 
resulted in attacks on hospitals, clinics, and ambulances, and forced 
people to flee their homes. Has CENTCOM looked into this reporting and 
what steps has it taken to evaluate the civilian deaths and injuries 
resulting from Saudi-led coalition attacks in Yemen?
    General Kurilla. While CENTCOM has no jurisdiction or legal 
authorization to conduct a proper investigation into strikes by 
sovereign states such as the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, we share our 
concern to the Saudis over any report of civilian casualties. CENTCOM 
remains engaged with the Saudis on the importance of avoiding civilian 
harm and the need to constantly improve methodology and procedures for 
doing so. We are working closely with the Saudis to enhance their 
civilian harm mitigation and law of armed conflict training. We also 
share best practices with the coalition on investigations into 
allegations of civilian casualties.

    47. Senator Warren. General Kurilla, what steps has CENTCOM taken 
to address findings from the June 2022 Government Accountability Office 
report on ``Yemen, State, and DOD Need Better Information on Civilian 
Impacts of U.S. Military Support to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab 
Emirates'', that it is likely that United States-origin arms were used 
by coalition partners to conduct war crimes in Yemen?
    General Kurilla. We have reviewed and continue to aggressively 
address the findings from this report. We are evaluating mechanisms to 
report on civilian harm caused by United States defense articles used 
in Yemen by Saudi or UAE forces. We also seek to develop effective 
training programs regarding civilian harm mitigation for our Saudi and 
UAE partners. We also assess the effectiveness of that training.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                       women, peace and security
    48. Senator Shaheen. General Kurilla and General Langley, can you 
provide an update on how CENTCOM and AFRICOM are implementing the 2017 
Women, Peace and Security (WPS) agenda?
    General Kurilla. Our WPS program is among our most successful in 
advancing our regional partnerships to reach a sustainable security and 
stability. Through the program, we advocate for women's meaningful 
participation in their nation's security efforts.
    We advise our partners on ensuring women serve as critical actors 
in their national security. We seek to model this kind of behavior and 
then export it to our partners. Our WPS program managers have 
established a baseline assessment for each of our 19 partner countries 
which will allow us to evaluate progress in the years to come.
    We've incorporated the principles of the WPS program into both our 
Theater Strategy and our Campaign Plan. We've highlighted WPS 
initiatives within each of our Country Security Cooperation Plans. As 
the program evolves, we observe growing interest from partners 
throughout the region.
    General Langley. At AFRICOM, we are implementing the 2017 WPS 
agenda through a 3-Phase approach for the fiscal years 2023 to 2026 
timeframe, which we are currently in Phase 2 and portions of Phase 3 of 
our process.
    Phase 1 (Planning and Informing)--entails training AFRICOM staff to 
serve as Gender Focal Points in relevant issue areas, and establishing 
and updating WPS doctrine, products, and developing 5-year WPS plans 
focused on Angola (but on hold given bandwidth), Botswana, Zambia, and 
Niger (but on hold due to coup).
    Phase 2 (Implementing and Executing)--entails ongoing training, 
integrating WPS equities into AFRICOM Campaign Plan and Order, 
establishing online resources for AFRICOM staff, and implementing the 
5-year WPS plans.
    Phase 3 (Operations, Activities, and Investments Integration)--
entails integrating Command actions across the range of AFRICOM HQ, 
Component, and Embassy Offices of Security Cooperation activities. This 
phase also includes assessments.

    49. Senator Shaheen. General Kurilla and General Langley, what 
additional support or resources do you need to better integrate WPS 
within your structures but also in your efforts with partner forces?
    General Kurilla. Across much of the CENTCOM region, the accepted 
male-dominant social construct combined with regional cultural norms 
often serve as a challenge to a broader, more rapid WPS application. 
This obstacle may be reduced through a whole-of-government approach 
across all instruments of American power applying pressure on partner 
governments to advance and promote women's security efforts.
    We are working additional government funding for our WPS program. 
For fiscal years 2022 and 2023, CENTCOM maintained a $307,000 shortfall 
against our requested $492,000 for the WPS program.
    General Langley. At AFRICOM, a full-time Gender Advisor onsite and 
within each of our focus countries is needed to significantly implement 
our WPS agenda. This would enable us to better respond to a range of 
Partner requirements, including the development of doctrine, inclusion 
of gender consideration in DOD security cooperation programs, and 
solutions to address barriers to women's participation in security.

    50. Senator Shaheen. General Kurilla and General Langley, how are 
CENTCOM and AFRICOM looking ahead to ensure the WPS agenda is resilient 
and will see long-term success?
    General Kurilla. The key to long-term success of the program is 
persistent engagement with willing partners. To that end, we've 
developed long-duration education and training programs built on the 
WPS guidelines.
    Success of the program will ultimately rely on small progress 
sustained over time. Rather than moving mountains, we're pushing rocks, 
with an understanding that small advances will manifest in broader 
social change into the future.
    General Langley. At AFRICOM, we published a first-of-its-kind 
TASKORD at AFRICOM that required every AFRICOM Directorate and 
component command to integrate gender considerations into the Command's 
Operations, Activities, and Investments. The TASKORD also tasked four 
of our components to develop 5-year WPS plans in coordination with 
their assigned WPS focus country (i.e. ANGOLA/NAVAF, BOTSWANA/SETAF-AF, 
NIGER/AFAF, ZAMBIA/CJTF-HOA). This was to ensure a long-term 
relationship was built specific to WPS support and multi-year WPS 
programming developed for a designated country.

    51. Senator Shaheen. General Kurilla and General Langley, how can 
CENTCOM and AFRICOM integrate Women, Peace, and Security into bilateral 
and multilateral partnerships in the respective Areas of Operation your 
command covers?
    General Kurilla. We integrate WPS into bilateral and multilateral 
partnerships by modeling the program's principles within our own 
forces. We also highlight the strategic value of inclusivity in our own 
formations, demonstrating the prominence of American women military 
leaders. Further, we plan targeted engagements wherein we encourage 
partners to bring women into their planning and command and control 
operations. Through anecdotes and engagements, we seek to ensure that 
our partners appreciate the role women can play in regional security 
and stability.
    General Langley. At AFRICOM, in addition to our WPS TASKORD, our 
full time Gender Advisor at AFRICOM leads our Gender Network to ensure 
integration of WPS across Operations, Activities, and Investments with 
our bilateral and multilateral partnerships. Outside of AFRICOM HQ, our 
Gender Network includes a full time Gender Advisor at Naval Forces 
Africa to cover the maritime domain, a full time Gender Advisor at 
Special Operations Command Africa to integrate into special ops 
objectives, a full time Gender Advisor at Air Forces Africa to cover 
the air domain, and a full time Gender Advisor at our only base in 
Africa, Combined Joint Task Force--Horn of Africa (vacant, actively 
being advertised), to deploy across the continent and integrate gender 
considerations into CJTF-HOA requirements.
                         information operations
    52. Senator Shaheen. General Kurilla and General Langley how are 
CENTCOM and AFRICOM addressing the Wagner Group's information 
operations and what additional support is required to allow CENTCOM and 
AFRICOM to more thoroughly counter Wagner information operations?
    General Kurilla. We seek to counter the Wagner Group's information 
operations through our Military Information Support Operations program, 
which counters the group's messaging and highlights the group's malign 
behaviors.
    General Langley. At AFRICOM, our WPS programing aims to fully 
integrate women as active agents in their respective country's defense 
and security spheres. We have assessed that women in our focus 
countries have different access and influence roles than men that 
positions them as necessary to help counter malign actors that aim to 
undermine democracy. AFRICOM recognizes that malign actors integrate 
gender considerations to achieve an objective, which is why we see the 
recruitment of women by Al-Shabaab. We can counter malign actors by 
fully integrating both men and women in defense and security to ensure 
the military reflects its population, has stronger security 
initiatives, better identifies early warning signals of terrorism and 
conflict, and can better counter the negative effects of climate change 
that results in instability. Last, we are aiming to replicate past 
Military Information Support Operations (MISO) efforts by executing 
micro-campaigns with thematic content such as women working to defeat 
Al-Shabaab in Somalia.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                            armed overwatch
    53. Senator Kelly. General Kurilla and General Langley, both of 
your theaters have been plagued with conflict from extremists and 
terrorist organizations for decades. You both have demonstrated 
leadership providing armed ISR missions through use of remotely piloted 
aircraft, modified C-12s, multi-role fighters, and any other platform 
the DOD has to get the job done. You have collaborated with SOCOM to 
provide an outstanding and lethal capability-defending our Homeland 
from terrorists and helping reduce the atrocities committed by 
extremists worldwide. SOCOM awarded a contract to L3 Harris last year 
for the development of a new light attack aircraft to conduct Armed 
Overwatch and Close Air Support. Even as we pivot our 4th and 5th 
generation aircraft for readiness against peer adversaries, it's 
critical we don't lose site of the very real threat we face every 
single day from extremists in Africa and the Middle East. Please 
describe the importance of Armed Overwatch capabilities in your 
theaters.
    General Kurilla. CENTCOM leverages Armed Overwatch capabilities for 
a range of critical missions. These assets support force protection, 
allow battlespace awareness for partner and U.S. forces, and provide 
indications and warning against strategic threats.
    We also employ Armed Overwatch assets in tracking the movement of 
Violent Extremist Organizations. Finally, we employ these assets for 
the interdiction of material and financial resources for Iran-backed 
groups.
    General Langley. Our ability to provide armed overwatch in support 
of our personnel and our partners at remote locations in our AOR is 
critical. When our teams go beyond the confines of our bases and when 
we support our African partners at the forefront in the fight against 
violent extremism, we rely on armed overwatch to keep them safe. A mix 
of short and long endurance armed aircraft capable of performing ISR, 
find/fix/finish, direct action, response, and strike missions is the 
optimal solution for the African continent.

    54. Senator Kelly. General Kurilla and General Langley, what assets 
do you have in theater now that support Armed Overwatch mission 
requirements, and is that enough?
    General Kurilla. Our rotary and fixed wing, manned and unmanned 
Airborne Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance assets 
throughout the region are heavily tasked with a range of mission sets, 
including Armed Overwatch. While we have sufficient assets in theater 
now that support our Armed Overwatch mission requirements, these assets 
are stretched thin.
    Additional dedicated armed overwatch aircraft would allow us to 
focus our MQ-9s on target development, which could increase our ability 
to target and defeat ISIS leaders in Iraq and Syria. CENTCOM is 
allocated a set number of MQ-9 sorties per day in Iraq and Syria for 
fiscal year 2023. These sorties provide armed overwatch for Coalition 
and Iraqi forces when conducting counter-ISIS operations. For fiscal 
year 2024, CENTCOM will receive a 10 percent reduction in MQ-9 sorties 
per day in support of operations in Iraq and Syria.
    General Langley. USAFRICOM utilizes both long range-long endurance 
and shorter-range armed overwatch platforms. Long flight-times enroute 
to our objectives limit our access and loiter times to provide force 
protection in most of our locations on the continent. USAFRICOM is not 
sourced with enough of these platforms and supplements with contractor 
owned, contractor operated MQ-9s and B-350's. This frees up government 
owned, government operated platforms, such as the MQ-1 or MQ-9 to 
provide armed overwatch for our troops. The current limited resourcing 
of armed overwatch capable platforms constrains USAFRICOM's ability to 
conduct operations, which includes advise and assist missions with 
partner forces in multiple locations simultaneously.

    55. Senator Kelly. General Kurilla and General Langley, as we 
continue to pivot to the Pacific, do you think you'll have the 
resources needed to sustain your Armed Overwatch and ISR requirements 
with theater assets?
    General Kurilla. We currently have the Armed Overwatch and ISR 
requirements to meet our National Defense Strategy objectives in Iraq, 
Syria and areas outside of Afghanistan. We are working to increase our 
ISR in Afghanistan through the introduction of long duration 
alternative airborne ISR. However, any loss of resources to another 
theater of operations will introduce strategic risk, risk to force and 
risk to mission within the region. Given the presence of the persistent 
threats of Iran and Violent Extremist Organizations within our region, 
our theater holds the greatest risk of derailment of the National 
Defense Strategy. Specifically, a flashpoint incident with Iran or an 
attack by Violent Extremist Organizations on American interests in the 
West or the Homeland may require unplanned, unscheduled resources from 
higher priority theaters outlined in the National Defense Strategy.
    General Langley. Currently, I cannot cover all my validated ISR 
requirements. Air Force and SOCOM ISR divestments will exacerbate this 
issue. Alternative options, such as shorter endurance aircraft such as 
those under development by L3 Harris will have limited impact in 
Africa, they will be limited to a handful of bases from which they 
cannot cover all our teams on the ground, nor will they be able to 
provide in extremis support to all our high-risk posts.

    56. Senator Kelly. General Kurilla and General Langley, how would a 
dedicated SOCOM Armed Overwatch capability impact your theater?
    General Kurilla. A dedicated SOCOM Armed Overwatch capability may 
benefit the CENTCOM region if it is additive to our requirements vice 
used to substitute for current platforms that include manned and 
unmanned Airborne Intelligence Surveillance and Reconnaissance, rotary 
and fixed-wing attack aircraft, and gunships.
    General Langley. A dedicated armed overwatch platform in a country 
such as Somalia would be of benefit, as much of the support would be 
reachable from several airfields and forward staging bases. In West 
Africa, by contrast, it would require more aircraft at more bases 
closer to the areas of violent extremist activity where our forces are 
more at risk. This would come at the cost of adding more bases closer 
to those areas, such as the Chad-Niger-Nigeria tri-border area and/or 
south of current staging locations in the nation(s) of Ghana, Togo, or 
Benin, for example.
                violent extreme organizations in africa
    57. Senator Kelly. General Langley, in addition to my concerns 
about the malign influence of China and Russia in Africa, I'm also 
concerned about the situation with terrorist groups and violent 
extremists across Africa. Last year, your predecessor testified that 
``7 of the 10 countries with the largest increase in terrorism were in 
Sub Saharan Africa--with Burkina Faso suffering a 590 percent 
increase.'' ISIS and al Qaeda-aligned groups remain a potent and 
growing threat across much of Africa. In the Sahel region, Jama'at Nasr 
al-Islam wal Muslimin is continuing to spread and destabilize the 
region. Moreover, al Shabab and the situation in Somalia poses a direct 
threat to the Homeland--they have capability, and they have intent. 
This is extremely concerning, and I have several questions on how 
Congress can best support DOD to reduce threats and stabilize the 
region. What ISR capabilities do we have in the region to get after 
these challenges, and is it enough?
    General Langley. USAFRICOM and its components have a layered mix of 
national and tactical ISR capabilities to counter threats and stabilize 
the region. They are the full spectrum of intelligence collection to 
include: GEOINT, SIGINT, HUMINT and OSINT.
    No, USAFRICOM does not have enough ISR capabilities and can only 
achieve 826 percent of our requirements using a combination of Global 
Force Management (GFM) and contract ISR. This causes the command to 
make daily decisions about which operations to support, provide 
overwatch for VEOs to target, Russian and Chinese activities to 
monitor, and where else we will have to take risk. It also limits our 
ability to provide timely indications and warnings support to 
diplomatic facilities.

    58. Senator Kelly. General Langley, what type of ISR would best 
help you capture VEO activity in Africa?
    General Langley. USAFRICOM's greatest ISR needs are for additional 
Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) and Full Motion Video (FMV) collection. 
However, equally important is the need for additional linguists and 
analysts to conduct the processing, exploitation, and dissemination 
(PED) of material collected.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
      naval small craft instruction and technical training school
    59. Senator Wicker. General Langley, as you know, the Naval Small 
Craft Instruction and Technical Training School (NAVSCIATTS) provides 
training to foreign partners on small boat operations and maintenance, 
unmanned aerial systems, and other related skills. What is your 
assessment of the value that NAVSCIATTS provides to United States 
Africa Command in support of its theater security cooperation 
requirements and objectives?
    General Langley. African partner nations have difficulty 
maintaining the readiness of their assets and frequently request 
assistance with ship and small boat maintenance. NAVSCIATTS provides 
valuable training to our foreign partners in this critical area. In 
addition to NAVSCIATTS, the United States Coast Guard Deputy Commandant 
for International Affairs, utilizing Mobile Training Teams, hosts 
resident and exportable training classes for African Partner Nations. 
The wide range of training made available by the USCG Mobile Training 
Teams is vital to continued logistical and operational expertise within 
our partner nation's maritime forces. The ability to combine maritime 
law enforcement training, such as Illegal, Unregulated, and Unreported 
Fishing, small boat operations, and the International Maritime Officer 
Course in support of theater security cooperation ensure those 
requirements are met and exceeded. The USCG international training 
components are small but mighty in meeting USAFRICOM objectives.
              authorizations for the use of military force
    60. Senator Wicker. General Kurilla and General Langley, as 
Congress examines the future of the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations for 
the Use of Military Force (AUMF), it would be useful to understand how 
each of your combatant commands have utilized these authorities. Please 
provide a list of operations and activities that have been conducted 
under each of these AUMFs, respectively, since 2013.
    General Kurilla. Since 2013, CENTCOM has relied on the 2001 AUMF as 
the domestic legal basis for its operations in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria 
and Yemen, and for other counterterrorism operations conducted 
throughout the region. Meanwhile, the 2002 AUMF has been employed only 
as an ``additional authority'' for operations in Iraq and Syria in 
certain circumstances. For example, the 2002 AUMF was employed in the 
targeting of terrorist threats emanating from Iraq.
    General Langley.

    ODYSSEY RESOLVE
    OPERATION EMINENT SHADOW
    OPERATION INVERTED LIGHT
    OPERATION JUNIPER MICRON
    OPERATION JUNIPER SHIELD
    OPERATION NEW NORMAL
    OPERATION OCTAVE QUARTZ
    OPERATION OCTAVE SHIELD
    OPERATION RAINMAKER EXORD MOD 1 and MOD 2
    USAFRICOM GREY EAGLE EXORD (MOD 1-7)
    USAFRICOM JUNCTION SERPENT EXORD
    USAFRICOM LOE 1 OCTAVE SHIELD OPORD
    USAFRICOM OCTAVE SHIELD EXORD
    USAFRICOM OPERATION OCTAVE SHIELD (OOS) ORDER
    OPERATION ODYSSEY LIGHTNING
    JUPITER GARRET
    JUPITER HERRON
    JUPITER ARROW

    USAFRICOM does not use the 2002 AUMF. Since 2013, USAFRICOM has 
conducted counter terrorism operations in Africa under OPERATION 
EMINENT SHADOW, OPERATION JUNIPER MICRON, OPERATION JUNIPER SHIELD, 
OPERATION OCTAVE QUARTZ, and OPERATION OCTAVE SHIELD. These operations 
derive their authority, at least in part, from the 2001 AUMF. The 
activities conducted under these operations include the authority to 
use force against organizations determined by the President to have 
planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that 
occurred on September 11, 2001 in order to prevent future attacks 
against the United States by these organizations. Other activities 
under these operations include working by, with, and through partners 
and allies and collecting and sharing intelligence with partners and 
allies.

    61. Senator Wicker. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
provide a list of the current and ongoing operations and activities for 
which each of these authorization for the use of military force 
(AUMFs), respectively, has been invoked as part of the legal 
justification.
    General Kurilla. CENTCOM relies on the 2001 AUMF as the domestic 
legal basis for its operations in Iraq and Syria, and for other 
counterterrorism operations conducted throughout the region. We have no 
ongoing military activities that rely solely or primarily on the 2002 
AUMF.
    General Langley.

    OPERATION OCTAVE QUARTZ
    OPERATION JUNIPER MICRON
    OPERATION JUNIPER SHIELD
    OPERATION NEW NORMAL
    OPERATION OCTAVE VIPER

    USAFRICOM currently conducts counter terrorism operations in Africa 
under OPERATION JUNIPER MICRON, OPERATION JUNIPER SHIELD, OPERATION 
OCTAVE QUARTZ, and OPERATION OCTAVE SHIELD under the 2001 AUMF. The 
activities conducted under these operations include the authority to 
use force against organizations determined by the President to have 
planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that 
occurred on 11 September 2001 in order to prevent future attacks 
against the United States by these organizations. Other activities 
under these operations include working by, with, and through partners 
and allies and collecting and sharing intelligence with partners and 
allies.

    62. Senator Wicker. General Kurilla and General Langley, if the 
2001 authorization for the use of military force (AUMF) were repealed, 
what types of current operations or activities would no longer have a 
legal basis to continue, and would therefore need to be reevaluated or 
stopped?
    General Kurilla. The 2001 AUMF remains the cornerstone domestic 
legal basis for ongoing CENTCOM operations against Violent Extremist 
Organizations such as al Qaeda and ISIS. Repealing it without a 
replacement would significantly limit our ability to counter Violent 
Extremist Groups operating within our region.
    General Langley. If Congress repeals the 2001 AUMF, we would have 
to reevaluate or stop the following activities: 1) United States direct 
action in support of allies and partners who have come under attack by 
al Qaeda, ISIS, or associated forces; 2) United States intelligence-
sharing with allies and partners that may lead to direct action by 
allies and partners against al Qaeda, ISIS, or associated forces; and, 
3) United States unilateral direct-action operations against al Qaeda, 
ISIS, or associated forces, consistent with Presidential policies. All 
three types of operations derive their authority from the 2001 AUMF, 
which permits the President to use all necessary and appropriate force 
against organizations that planned, authorized, committed, or aided the 
terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001 in order to 
prevent future attacks against the United States by organizations.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                chinese influence in africom and centcom
    63. Senator Cotton. General Kurilla and General Langley, how are 
each of your commands working to counter China's influence with our 
allies in your respective Area of Responsibilities (AOR)? Please 
describe specific programs or actions.
    General Kurilla. Strategic competition with China is deeply 
manifest in the region. The People's Republic of China aggressively 
expands its informational, military, and economic instruments of 
national power across the region. With the recent announcement to 
normalize relations between Saudi Arabia and Iran, Beijing is expanding 
its diplomatic influence in the region. China, dependent on the region 
for more than half of its imported crude oil and more than a third of 
all its natural gas, is also moving beyond energy-based investments to 
encompass physical and telecommunications infrastructure that advances 
its Belt and Road Initiative. 19 of 21 CENTCOM countries have signed a 
Belt and Road agreement with China. So, we are in a race to integrate 
with our partners before China can penetrate the region.
    To compete with China, we invest deeply and aggressively with 
partners throughout the region. These abiding partnerships are our 
strategic advantage over China in the region. These include developing 
Regional constructs that exclude China and promote regional stability.
    Additionally, our innovation efforts--including our innovation Task 
Forces 39, 59, and 99--are helping to connect our partners to cutting-
edge technologies and new processes to meet the regional threats we 
face.
    Additionally, as China expands its activities in the region, 
CENTCOM illuminates those actions that undermine sovereignty and the 
rules-based order. Through our public messaging, we continue to counter 
false narratives offered by our competitors.
    General Langley. United States Africa Command (USAFRICOM) continues 
to position the U.S. as a willing and trusted partner, offering 
alternatives to PRC cooperation. We are reworking our approach to 
security cooperation, countering transnational threats, and cooperation 
with the interagency in the context of competition. We offer the most 
sought-after security cooperation programs and activities, from 
training and education in the U.S. through the International Military 
Education and Training Program; complex joint and multilateral 
exercises; partner-centric grant assistance; foreign military sales, 
and financing for quality military training and equipment with an eye 
toward the sustainability of these investments. In fact, the demand for 
these programs always outstrips supply. Our efforts are not only 
focused on defense, but on development and diplomacy. On the 
development front, USAID continues to have a robust presence in Africa. 
Their efforts are extensive and long lasting, with a focus on economic 
viability integral to promoting prosperity and progress. On the 
diplomatic front, we closely coordinate with our Embassy country teams 
to ensure advancing of our values and democratic governance. We now 
have Security Cooperation Offices in almost all our embassies across 
Africa. We welcome and are increasing defense cooperation with our 
closest allies and partners in Africa and the Indian Ocean Region. Most 
of USAFRICOM's Western and Indo-Pacific allies do not see the PRC 
exclusively as a strategic competitor. Most Western allies see China as 
an economic competitor, but also a partner at times, and, because the 
West has been inconsistent in providing economic alternatives to the 
PRC, many of our African partners ask us not to try to force them away 
from their Chinese economic projects and agreements. However, our 
allies and partners often express consistent concerns regarding Chinese 
illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, in conjunction with the 
detrimental impacts to African food security and stability. We assist 
partners in responding to this challenge through initiatives to build 
partner capacity in areas such as Maritime Domain Awareness and 
Maritime Security. Through these and other efforts, we demonstrate U.S. 
commitment through a responsive, requirements-driven approach. 
Additionally, the announcement of PRC building a spaceport in Djibouti 
may become a concern of allies that have bases there.
           u.s. security partnerships in africom and centcom
    64. Senator Cotton. General Kurilla and General Langley, please 
provide a detailed assessment of how the nations in your AOR view the 
United States as a security partner, focusing on the aftermath of the 
Chinese brokered rapprochement between Saudi Arabia and Iran and the 
disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. Do the nations in your AOR see 
the U.S. as a reliable partner? Why or why not?
    General Kurilla. Unlike China, the United States has been in the 
region for over 75 years. We have invested in the security and 
stability of the region, and developed deep, abiding partnerships. The 
United States remains the partner of choice; however, that position is 
not guaranteed and it is something we must continue to work on with our 
partners. The United States is viewed as a reliable partner but some 
regional partners are beginning to hedge with a multi-vector policy 
based on their perceived uncertainty of our long-term commitment.
    The National Defense Strategy states that China is the pacing 
challenge, Russia is the acute threat and Iran and violent extremist 
organizations are persistent threats. Some partners view the increase 
in posture to counter China and Russia as coming at the expense of the 
Middle East and Levant; therefore, they are uncertain as to the future 
of the United States long term commitment.
    General Langley. The United States remains the security partner of 
choice in most of Africa. United States military training, professional 
military education, and exercises are still considered the gold 
standard. United States equipment, on the other hand, is expensive and 
often takes a long time to procure. Because of cost and procurement 
delays, some African partners choose to source equipment elsewhere.
    Generally, African nations make defense decisions based on 
pragmatic assessments of their defense needs, the economic value of a 
transaction, and the overall political relationship with a partner. 
African nations tend to avoid predicating decisions on the ideology of 
a partner or the current status of a partner's global military 
operations--they don't want to get caught up in great power 
competition. This has been clearly communicated to United States 
Defense officials and is demonstrated by African nations' widespread 
reluctance to formally criticize the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
    USAFRICOM maintains enduring and substantive defense relationships 
with many African states, and USAFRICOM always seeks to expand our 
engagement on the continent. Defense relationships are only one 
component of broader U.S. Government policies. This carries 
implications for where and how we engage in Africa. Many countries in 
Africa lament the United States' perceived lack of interest in engaging 
with them on areas of mutual interest and bristle at how long U.S. 
assistance takes to execute and at the restrictions placed on it. In 
many countries, the security and economic situation is quickly 
deteriorating in a way that makes navigating the lengthy and 
bureaucratic nature of U.S. security cooperation untenable, forcing 
them to seek assistance from alternative actors like the PRC and Russia 
and, more recently, countries like Turkey and Israel.

    65. Senator Cotton. General Kurilla and General Langley, how are 
your commands working to reassure allies that the United States remains 
the preferred partner of choice?
    General Kurilla. We reassure our allies through our presence and 
engagement, and a vision of increased capabilities based on innovation 
and integration. Our basing, extensive training exercises, operations, 
and leadership visits all reveal our enduring commitment to the region. 
Our Foreign Military Sales, information sharing, and innovation efforts 
speak to our deep commitment to the region.
    General Langley. We execute Operations, Investments and Activities 
to support the AFRICOM campaign plan. We work with our African Partners 
on countering mutual threats and malign actors through building partner 
capacity with security cooperation. USAFRICOM, through its campaign 
plans and component commands, places a premium on engaging with and 
providing assistance to our partner nations across the full spectrum of 
our capabilities, to remain the partner of choice. Against some threats 
like al-Shabaab or ISIS--West Africa our assurance and reassurance may 
look more like conventional military operations, while in most of the 
rest of continent we work to remain the partner of choice through 
security cooperation, engagements, and consistent forward presence. 
Great examples of our ability to demonstrate forward presence include 
the use of the USS Hershel ``Woody'' Williams and our Security Force 
Assistance Brigade mentor teams. Our security cooperation runs the 
gamut from large scale multilateral exercises on land such as AFRICAN 
LION, or at sea through the EXPRESS exercise series to increase our 
partners' capabilities to respond to threats and build 
interoperability. USAFRICOM has a robust engagement schedule, including 
conferences and key leader engagements, both of which seek to 
synchronize activities and foster regional dialog on issues of 
importance.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
              regional air and missile defense cooperation
    66. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what is the implementation 
status of the air and missile defense architecture for our allies and 
partners in the Middle East, as required within 180 days of enactment 
of the James M. Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal 
year 2023?
    General Kurilla. Our allies and partners provide opportunities for 
cooperative air and missile defense regionally during both steady State 
and crisis situations by leveraging multi-lateral capabilities, the 
Regional Security Construct (RSC), and Middle East Air Defense (MEAD) 
initiatives. These programs allow us to take advantage of partner 
contributions, increase opportunities for international collaboration, 
distribute financial burdens, deepen interoperability among systems and 
operators, and better defend U.S. deployed forces.
    The current priority we are working is a Common Shared Air Picture 
that every partner nation can observe. We also work together in sharing 
information on missile and Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) threats, both 
before and after launch. Pre-launch information sharing is crucial to 
understanding adversary missile and UAS capabilities and intentions, 
ensuring all partners have the most accurate and up-to-date 
information, and developing response plans to potential attack.

    67. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, will the report be delivered on 
time? If not, please explain when the report is anticipated to be 
delivered and the reason for delay.
    General Kurilla. I will defer to the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense and the State Department on the timing of this report.

    68. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what is the current State of 
integrated air and missile defense infrastructure in the region? Please 
describe the key barriers to further implementation.
    General Kurilla. Integrated air and missile defense serves as a top 
functional priority for CENTCOM. Across the region, we've developed a 
series of programs and exercises to advance this priority. We are 
making the most progress with C-UAS.
    Specific to the UAS threat--we have just established Red Sands, an 
experimentation center in Saudi Arabia for new tactics, techniques, 
procedures, processes, and technology to counter Unmanned Aerial 
Systems. Red Sands is our partnership with the Royal Saudi Armed Forces 
to test and experiment and ultimately improve tactics, techniques, and 
procedures to defeat Unmanned Aerial Systems. Our firm, longstanding 
military-to-military relationship with the Royal Saudi Armed Forces 
allowed us to quickly develop and implement the program, which serves 
as a benefit to both military forces.
    We conducted our first Red Sands live fire exercise event in mid-
March in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. During the live fire, we executed 
a complex multiple Unmanned Aerial System threat against a layered 
defense that included both United States and Saudi systems.
    We will evolve the program in the coming months, with additional 
capabilities, systems, and technology. During the next iteration of Red 
Sands in September, we will defend against more complex drone attacks. 
While Red Sands is currently a bilateral event, both CENTCOM and the 
Saudis intend to expand the program to other regional partners in the 
future.
    We have also established Green Sands, a 5-day program to certify 
every Base Defense Operations Center entering the CENTCOM region 
against complex theater specific threat-based Unmanned Aerial Systems--
prior to deployment into theater. Green Sands will ensure all sections 
are more capable of defeating complex, multi-drone attacks using 
multiple systems and platforms.
    In addition, Task Forces 39 and 99 constantly test and field new 
counter-Unmanned Aerial System capabilities, working closely with our 
partners to implement best practices. The aim is to develop an 
integrated air and missile defense system to defeat adversary drones, 
inclusive of electronic warfare, directed energy, traditional systems, 
AI-based systems, and increased sensors and data collection. For 
CENTCOM, this is about taking ideas, concepts, and systems from 
industry, from our partners, in practice in Ukraine, and applying them 
to the threat we face in the region. We seek an integrated air and 
missile defense architecture that is ubiquitous within the region, 
integrated with our partners, and capable of defending our forces and 
assets.
    Key barriers to implementation to integrated air and missile 
defense are each country's reticence to share relevant data with all 
regional partners. Almost all are willing to share with the United 
States and bilaterally and with many other countries. Many countries 
are unwilling to share multilaterally but that is slowly changing.
    Another barrier to implementation is Foreign Military Sales (FMS). 
If a partner buys Chinese or Russian equipment we will not allow it to 
operate on our networks. China and Russia are often viewed by regional 
partners as more accommodating than the United States, offering lower 
costs, favorable financing, faster delivery times, and no end-use 
monitoring agreements. During my trips to the region and calls with 
regional Chief of Defense, I routinely hear how much faster and easier 
China's foreign military sales program is than ours. While the American 
foreign military sales process involves multiple steps going through 
multiple layers of government bureaucracy, the People's Republic of 
China can move much faster, often making us non-competitive by 
comparison.
    Our partners have real security needs and they want to invest in 
American systems. They know that when they ``buy American,'' they buy 
the best equipment, training, sustainment, and upgrades. They also know 
that they buy into our bureaucracy.
    Streamlining our multi-layered Foreign Military Sales program, 
allowing us to move at the speed of relevance, would drive down Russia 
and China's opportunities for influence in the region.

    69. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what is the status and 
estimated delivery date of the 10 most important approved Foreign 
Military Sales supporting integrated air and missile defense for allies 
and partners to the region?
    General Kurilla. Our top ten Foreign Military Sales cases relate to 
the most significant challenges facing our partners as we reduce our 
footprint in the region--Integrated Air and Missile Defense and 
Countering Unmanned Aerial Systems. Many of our Middle Eastern Gulf 
partners live under constant threat of attack from Iran and its 
proxies. It is a positive indicator that our partners are seeking to 
counter existential threats with U.S. systems rather than from our 
competitors. That said, seven of these ten cases are off track. It is 
imperative that we continue to work to improve our FMS process and make 
it more responsive. Otherwise, we risk driving our partners to Russia 
and China.
Saudi F-15SA
      Status: This case is on track. Case is for 84 F-15SA 
(Saudi Advanced) aircraft and conversion of 70 F-15Ss to the SA, a 
unique, fly by-wire variant of the aircraft. Total case value is 
$29.4B.
      Estimated Delivery Date: All new production and 20 (of 
70) conversion aircraft have been delivered; deliveries of conversion 
aircraft continue. Final delivery is expected in October 2027.
Saudi Terminal High-Altitude Area Defense (THAAD).
      Status: This case is on track. The case is for seven 
THAAD batteries and 360 Interceptor missiles. Total case value is $13.3 
billion. While on track, training associated with this case is at risk 
due to size of program.
      Estimated Delivery Date: For interceptors, delivery is 
planned from the second quarter for fiscal year 2024 through fiscal 
year 2028. Initial Operating Capability (IOC) is planned over the 
period of the second quarter of fiscal year 2025 through fiscal year 
2027.
Bahrain Patriots.
      Status: This case is not on track due to U.S. Army 
prioritization and production rate limitations. U.S. Army fill level 
for Patriot Advanced Capability--3 Missile Segment Enhanced missiles 
has caused worldwide delivery slippage. Bahrain PAC-3 MSEs delivery 
delayed 6-months. This case is for two Patriot Fire Control Units 
(FCUs), 60 PATRIOT PAC-3 MSE missiles, 36 Guidance Enhanced Missile--
Tactical (GEM-T) missiles. Total case value is $1.15 billion. Bahrain 
is one of three countries experiencing Patriot delays.
      Estimated Delivery Date: Estimated deliveries of two FCUs 
is on track for July 2023 and November 2023. Delivery for 36 GEM-Ts is 
scheduled for 31 May 2023. Delivery of PAC-3 MSEs will begin in the 
fourth quarter of fiscal year 2024.
UAE Patriot Interceptors
      Status: This case is not on track due to U.S. Army 
prioritization and production rate limitations. U.S. Army fill level 
for Patriot Advanced Capability--3 Missile Segment Enhanced (PAC-3 MSE) 
missiles has caused worldwide delivery slippage. UAE PAC-3 MSEs delayed 
2 years from original projection. Case is for 452 PATRIOT PAC-3 MSE 
missiles and related support equipment and services. Total case value 
is $2.5 billion. UAE is one of three countries that is experiencing 
delays to PAC-3 MSE deliveries.
      Estimated Delivery Date: Delivery projected over the 
period of fourth quarter of fiscal year 2023 through fiscal year 2025.
Qatar Patriot Interceptors
      Status: This case is not on track due to U.S. Army 
prioritization and production rate limitations. U.S. Army fill level 
for Patriot Advanced Capability--3 Missile Segment Enhanced (PAC-3 MSE) 
missiles has caused worldwide delivery slippage. Qatar will experience 
a two-and-a-half-year delivery delay to remaining PAC-3 MSEs. Case is 
for 10 Patriot Fire Control Units (FCUs) and 146 PAC-3 Missile Segment 
Enhancement (MSE). Total case value is $7.3 billion. Qatar is one of 
three countries experiencing delays to PAC-3 MSE deliveries.
      Estimated Delivery Date: To date, the 10 firing units and 
114 PAC-3 missiles have been delivered to Qatar. Upcoming deliveries 
are expected from the second quarter of fiscal year 2024 through fiscal 
year 2026.
Qatar National Advanced Surface to Air Missile System (NASAMs).
      Status: This case is not on track due to an industry 
delay. Cases support Direct Commercial Sales (DCS) of 20 NASAMS 
including 80 AIM-120C and 100 AIM-120ER Advanced Medium Range Air-to-
Air Missiles (AMRAAM). Total case value is $404 million.
      Estimated Delivery Date: To date, 40 of 80 AIM-120Cs have 
been delivered. We anticipate delivery of the remaining 40 AIM-120C's 
by the second quarter of fiscal year 2024. 50 of 100 AIM-120ERs are 
prepared to ship.
Qatar F-15QA
      Status: This case is not on track due to multiple radar 
development and ferry issues. Two cases are for 48 F-15QAs, associated 
equipment, and construction. Total case value is approximately $14 
billion. These cases have experienced multiple delays due to radar 
development and ferry issues.
      Estimated Delivery Date: The next ferry of five aircraft 
is expected to arrive in Qatar July 2023; this will bring the total to 
33 aircraft in Qatar, 3 aircraft will be delivered in the United States 
in Jul 2023 completing delivery of the 36 tranche of aircraft. The next 
12 aircraft begin delivery early 2024.
Qatar Fixed Site--Low, Slow, Small Unmanned Aircraft Integrated Defeat 
        System (FS-LIDS)
      Status: This case is on track. The case is for 10 FS-LIDS 
with Coyote Block 2 Interceptor missiles. Total case value is $544.3 
million. On 24 Mar 2023, the Army offered the case to Qatar.
      Estimated Delivery Date: Initial delivery is expected 64-
months after Qatar signs the case.
Bahrain F-16 Block 70
      Status: This case is not on track because of multiple 
industry delays. The current version of the Airborne Integrated Defense 
Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS) is no longer in production, and the 
follow-on Advanced-AIDEWS is not available until July 2025. The case is 
for 16 F-16V aircraft and associated equipment. Total case value is 
$2.05 billion.
      Estimated Delivery Date: Bahrain's first F-16 Block 70 
rolled out March 2023. We anticipate delivery of all aircraft through 
the third quarter of fiscal year 2024 with AAIDEWS available in July 
2025.
Jordan F16 C/D Block 70
      Status: This case is not on track due to multiple issues. 
The case is for 12 F-16s Block 70 aircraft and associated support. 
Multiple delays in pricing and availability (P&A) data resulted in a 
near doubling of the price. The total case value is $1.97 billion which 
will be funded by a combination of Foreign Military Financing (FMF) and 
Jordanian national funds.
      Estimated Delivery Date: We anticipate delivery of the 
first aircraft in the fourth quarter of fiscal year 2026 with 
additional deliveries through fiscal year 2028.

    70. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what is the risk of Chinese and 
Russian arm sales to United States partners to integrated air and 
missile defense infrastructure?
    General Kurilla. Expanding regional arms sales--particularly in the 
area of integrated air and missile defense--provides China 
opportunities to expand its influence and interoperability. More 
importantly, we cannot integrate Russian or Chinese equipment into our 
Regional Air and Missile Defense construct. We will not allow Russian 
or Chinese equipment to operate on our networks.

    71. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what recommendations do you 
have for mitigating this risk?
    General Kurilla. China is often viewed by regional partners as more 
accommodating than the United States, offering lower costs, favorable 
financing, faster delivery times, and no end-use monitoring agreements. 
During my trips to the region and calls with regional Chiefs of 
Defense, I routinely hear how much faster and easier China's foreign 
military sales program is than ours. While the American foreign 
military sales process involves multiple steps going through multiple 
layers of government bureaucracy, the People's Republic of China can 
move much faster, often making us non-competitive by comparison.
    Our partners have real security needs and they want to invest in 
American systems. They know that when they ``buy American,'' they buy 
the best equipment, training, sustainment, and upgrades. They also know 
that they buy into our bureaucracy.
    Streamlining our multi-layered Foreign Military Sales program, 
allowing us to move at the speed of relevance, would drive down Russia 
and China's opportunities for influence in the region.
                       maritime domain awareness
    72. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, what are the barriers to 
advancing partner-enabled maritime awareness?
    General Kurilla. Maritime domain awareness requires the ability to 
gather, communicate, and process information to provide a common 
operational picture and act on that information. Partner nations have a 
variety of sensors including coastal radars and crewed assets which 
could be augmented with unmanned technology solutions. We enable the 
sharing of information as a go-between among partners, facilitating the 
Maritime Threat Network.
    There are not many barriers other than cost to advancing partner-
enabled maritime awareness.
               saudi arabia and iran diplomatic relations
    73. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, in your personal opinion, what 
is the impact to United States security interests from the agreement 
negotiated by Iran and Saudi Arabia?
    General Kurilla. The impact to U.S. security interests is not yet 
fully understood. While a reduction of tensions in the region may yield 
positive benefits, an agreement is not implementation. We do not 
believe Iran will adhere to the agreement over the long-term. In the 90 
days while Iran and Saudi Arabia were negotiating the agreement, 
USCENTCOM and partner forces interdicted five major shipments of 
Iranian arms headed to Houthi fighters; some of which were advanced 
components like inertial navigation systems for short range ballistic 
missiles.
    We are also concerned about China's role as diplomatic mediator. 
China seeks to undermine American influence in the region. In addition 
to the economic, informational, and military instruments of power it 
has employed in the region, China has now demonstrated its ability to 
influence the security environment with the diplomatic instrument of 
national power.

    74. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, in your personal opinion, what 
do you assess is the impact to our partners from the agreement 
negotiated by Iran and Saudi Arabia?
    General Kurilla. If the agreement truly lowers tension in the 
region it will provide some benefit to our partners in the region; 
however, Iranian diplomatic efforts and the actions of the Islamic 
Revolutionary Guards Corps are historically not aligned. That being 
said, it remains to be seen as this is still in development.
    There is little trust in the Middle East that Iran will fully honor 
agreements, including this one. The agreement may offer us an advantage 
by serving as a tool to hold Iran accountable for its malign 
activities. Further, the agreement may demonstrate China's inability to 
uphold the agreement in that it will not stop Iran's malign behavior.

    75. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, do you assess that Iran has 
agreed to cease weapon shipments to the Houthis? Please describe any 
rationale and supporting facts for an assessment.
    General Kurilla. We do not believe Iran has completely ceased 
weapons shipments to the Houthis at this time. This is based on 
intelligence, pattern of behavior and partner nation feedback.

    76. Senator Ernst. General Kurilla, do you assess that China will 
have increased access to Iran or Saudi Arabia as a result of this 
agreement? Please describe the level of Chinese penetration in Saudi 
Arabia and in Iran.
    General Kurilla. Chinese influence and interest in Iran is based on 
its energy needs, while Iran needs economic investment from China. This 
agreement can assist in securing those needs as it lowers the tension 
between Saudi Arabia and Iran as well as stabilizing Chinese energy 
purchases from both counties.
    China penetration in Saudi Arabia is based on Chinese economic 
interest, particularly energy. While Saudi Arabia has purchased some 
limited Chinese military equipment--Saudi Arabia continues to purchase 
Western and United States military equipment. FMS delays can cause 
further facilitate Chinese penetration in Saudi Arabia.
                              section 702e
    77. Senator Ernst. General Langley, could additional resourcing to 
the 127 Echo program buy-down risk in AFRICOM?
    General Langley. Yes, 127e programs allow U.S. special operations 
forces to mitigate the threat of attacks against the U.S. Homeland and 
interests abroad by providing a sustainable option to maintain pressure 
on violent extremist organizations (VEOs). These programs represent a 
relatively low-cost, low-risk, high-payoff opportunity to achieve 
counter-VEO objectives while enhancing partnerships, especially when 
synchronized with Department of State security assistance and 
Department of Defense security cooperation programs. In alignment with 
the recently published National Defense Strategy (NDS), 127e programs 
facilitate the shift from ``U.S.-led, partner enabled'' to ``partner-
led, U.S. enabled'' counterterrorism operations. Leveraging 127e-
resourced foreign forces in a C-VEO role also enhances USSOCOM's 
ability to balance limited assets in consideration of NDS priorities--
gaining efficiencies where C-VEO and Combatant Command Integrated 
Deterrence Campaigning are complementary.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
prc reaction to iranian actions in the vicinity of the strait of hormuz
    78. Senator Sullivan. General Kurilla, China imports approximately 
47 percent of its oil supply from the Middle East. China-bound oil 
tankers must pass through the Strait of Hormuz, into the Indian Ocean, 
through the Straits of Malacca, and up through the South China Sea to 
reach Chinese ports. In 2018, the Iranian Government threatened to 
close the Strait of Hormuz in response to United States oil sanctions. 
In the 1980's, Iran and Iraq both attacked civilian oil tankers in the 
Persian Gulf, which led to the United States reflagging Kuwaiti tankers 
as U.S. ships and escorting them with U.S. Navy vessels. China is well 
aware both of this history and its reliance on the steady flow of oil 
through the Strait of Hormuz and into Chinese ports. Considering 
China's economic and military presence in the CENTCOM AOR and the fact 
that it now has the world's largest navy, what actions do you think 
China would take in your AOR if it thought its oil supply might be 
disrupted or cutoff because of a regional conflict?
    General Kurilla. China viewed previous Iranian threats to close or 
restrict access to the Strait of Hormuz as unacceptably provocative. In 
the event of a regional contingency, Beijing would prioritize efforts 
to deescalate through diplomacy by asserting itself as an impartial 
mediator. Beijing would likely frame the conflict as the consequence of 
failed United States regional policies while promoting China's Global 
Security Initiative as an alternative basis for stability, dialog, and 
dispute resolution.

    79. Senator Sullivan. General Kurilla, could such a Chinese 
reaction lead to something like the Tanker Wars of the 1980's?
    General Kurilla. Given the possible resource cost and associated 
risk to its influence, the People's Republic of China is unlikely to 
engage in a protracted conflict at sea in the Middle East.

                                houthis

    80. Senator Sullivan. General Kurilla, on January 19, 2021, the 
Houthis were designated as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), 
which the current administration revoked 1 month later. Subsequent 
actions by the Houthis have shown the folly of this decision. The 
administration has argued the Houthis' FTO designation was revoked to 
avoid exacerbating Yemen's humanitarian situation and to create 
conditions for peaceful dialog between that group and the Government of 
Yemen. Two years later, Yemen's famine persists, the cease-fire agreed 
to on April 2, 2022 has collapsed, arms continue to flow from Iran to 
the Houthis, some of which have been interdicted by the 5th Fleet and 
naval forces from the UK and France, and in February 2022 these 
terrorists attacked our base in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). Do you 
see the Houthis as a terrorist organization with the means and 
motivation to attack our servicemembers and allies in the region?
    General Kurilla. The Houthis have engaged in terrorist activities 
in that past. While the Houthis have the means and capability to 
threaten U.S. troops and partner forces, currently, they likely do not 
intend to target U.S. troops in the region. They have shown in the past 
their capability and will to target partner forces in the region.

 chinese illegal unregulated and unreported fishing in the africom aor

    81. Senator Sullivan. General Langley, according to your testimony, 
at least a third of the world's ships engaged in illegal, unreported, 
and unregulated (IUU) fishing are Chinese. The Office of Naval 
Intelligence estimates the Chinese illegal fishing fleet is between 
12,000 to 17,000 ships. Chinese IUU fishing, occurring throughout your 
AOR, is too big of a problem for any one country to monitor on its own. 
I recently returned from a Middle East CODEL [congressional delegation] 
where I met with the Commander of the 5th Fleet and learned about Task 
Force 59, which is employing unmanned surface vessels at scale to 
increase U.S. and partner domain awareness in CENTCOM's AOR. Along with 
building partner capacity through exercises with the United States Navy 
and Coast Guard presence, how might AFRICOM employ something like Task 
Force 59 to detect, monitor, and deter Chinese IUU fishing in your AOR?
    General Langley. Chinese illegal, underreported, and unregulated 
fishing (IUU-F) in my opinion is a significant issue with both the West 
and the East and an issue my Command, in particular United States Naval 
Forces Africa (NAVAF), is focusing on for capacity-building efforts to 
counter IUU-F. IUU-F was prevalent in discussions between United States 
and Africa partner maritime leadership at the recent Africa Maritime 
Forces Summit. My Navy component, NAVAF, is the lead to garner broad 
interagency and international support for a Tri-Service enabled 
multinational effort on counter IUU-F.
    The first step in countering IUU-F is detecting it. Learning from 
Task Force 59, unmanned resources would allow persistent presence, at a 
relatively low cost, to defect illicit activity and sharing this 
information with local partners, thereby building maritime domain 
awareness. Unmanned resources can then be used to monitor illicit 
actors once found and allow African partners to take appropriate 
action. Finally, these actions by our African patterns can be 
communicated in a public manner resulting in a deterrent effect. NAVAF 
has several unmanned platforms that can assist our African partners 
with maritime surveillance, to include fisheries surveillance. Each 
littoral partner in Africa has different capabilities and capacities, 
but we realize that unmanned technologies are cost-effective and 
represent an opportunity for Maritime Domain Awareness capability for 
our African partners.

                   chinese basing in the africom aor

    82. Senator Sullivan. General Langley, as you point out in your 
testimony, China seeks to expand its military presence on the African 
continent with a new base on Africa's Atlantic coast in Equatorial 
Guinea. It already has a military base in Djibouti, which it is 
expanding to include a spaceport. Can you describe how more Chinese 
naval and airbases in AFRICOM impact the global military competition 
between the United States and China? For example, what could China do 
with a military base on Africa's Atlantic Coast that it cannot do now?
    General Langley. Beijing has pursued additional military bases and 
logistics facilities in numerous African countries to support the 
People's Liberation Army's (PLA's) ability to project and sustain 
military power at greater distances. China's basing outreach in Africa 
has focused along the continent's vast coastline. A Chinese military 
base on the Atlantic coast of Africa would change the strategic 
geography of the AFRICOM area of responsibility and could pose threats 
to United States operations. We already have observed a similar pattern 
in Djibouti, where the PLA has interfered in United States operations 
via suspected lasing events and airspace disputes. Speaking strictly 
from a military capabilities perspective, a Chinese naval base on the 
Atlantic coast of Africa could enable persistent PLA Navy power 
projection in the Atlantic Ocean that spans from the Cape of Good Hope 
to the Strait of Gibraltar and westward toward the United States East 
Coast--a significant expansion of the PLA Navy's current capabilities. 
Equatorial Guinea is a likely location for this goal. During the past 
few years, we have seen the Equatoguinean press report that China has 
signed a basing agreement in the country. In 2021, we also observed 
China and Equatorial Guinea announcing an agreement to adopt joint 
strategies to counter piracy in the Gulf of Guinea. These developments 
suggest the distinct possibility of a Chinese military presence on the 
Atlantic coast of Africa in the coming years.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, MARCH 23, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                                Committee on Armed Services
                                                    Washington, DC.

   UNITED STATES NORTHERN COMMAND AND UNITED STATES SOUTHERN COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, 
Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call the Committee to order. 
As an initial point of business, since a quorum is now present 
I ask the Committee to consider 3,059 pending military 
nominations. All of these nominations have been before the 
Committee the required length of time.
    Is there a motion to favorably report----
    Senator Wicker. So moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Senator Shaheen. Second.
    Chairman Reed. All in favor say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]

    [The list of nominations considered and approved by the 
Committee follows:]

 Military Nominations Pending with the Senate Armed Services Committee 
Which are Proposed for the Committee's Consideration on March 23, 2023.
      1.  In the Air Force there are 27 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with David J. Berkland) (Reference No. 
196)

      2.  Col. Corey A. Simmons, USAF to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 198)

      3.  RADM George M. Wikoff, USN to be vice admiral and Commander, 
US Naval Forces, Central Command/Commander, FIFTH Fleet and Commander, 
Combined Maritime Forces (Reference No. 211)

      4.  RADM Frederick W. Kacher, USN to be vice admiral and 
Commander, SEVENTH Fleet (Reference No. 212)

      5.  In the Army there are 101 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Tolulope O. Akinsanya) (Reference No. 238)

      6.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (Jason W. Price) (Reference No. 257)

      7.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 11 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Sean M. Carpenter) 
(Reference No. 290)

      8.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Kristin A. Hillery) 
(Reference No. 291)

      9.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of major general (list begins with Elizabeth E. Arledge) 
(Reference No. 292)

     10.  Col. Carlos M. Caceres, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 310)

     11.  RADM Shoshana S. Chatfield, USN to be vice admiral and US 
Military Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization 
Military Committee (Reference No. 311)

     12.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (Shane K. Doty) (Reference No. 312)

     13.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 9 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Speight H. Caroon) (Reference No. 
313)

     14.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (Brandi Barnard King) (Reference No. 314)

     15.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Daniel S. McPherson) (Reference No. 
315)

     16.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Matthew J. Andrade) (Reference No. 
316)

     17.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Adam James Cole) (Reference No. 317)

     18.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Eric K. Wilke) (Reference No. 318)

     19.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 13 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Kelli M. Bermudez) (Reference No. 
319)

     20.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Lisa Carol Giugliano) (Reference No. 
320)

     21.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 7 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Joseph Catalino, Jr.) (Reference No. 
321)

     22.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 9 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with James M. Bershinsky) (Reference No. 
322)

     23.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Gary Monroe Boutz, Jr.) (Reference 
No. 323)

     24.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (John Charles Easley) (Reference No. 324)

     25.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 37 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Robert M. Acosta) (Reference No. 
325)

     26.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Nicole Dyan David) (Reference No. 
326)

     27.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 7 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Karrie Megan Bem) (Reference No. 
327)

     28.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Douglas A. Collins) (Reference No. 
328)

     29.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Marquis A.T. Smith) (Reference No. 329)

     30.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 61 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with James S. Akers II) (Reference No. 
330)

     31.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 31 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with David I. Amar) (Reference No. 331)

     32.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Sashi A. Zickefoose) (Reference No. 332)

     33.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Howard F. Stanley) (Reference No. 333)

     34.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
colonel (Bobby J. Chun) (Reference No. 334)

     35.  In the Army there are 7 appointments to the grade of colonel 
(list begins with Joshua G. Glonek) (Reference No. 335)

     36.  In the Army there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Alex J. Duffy) (Reference No. 337)

     37.  In the Army there are 4 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Liza B. Crawford) (Reference No. 338)

     38.  In the Army Reserve there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Jeremy S. Stirm) (Reference No. 339)

     39.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Renee R. Kiel) (Reference No. 340)

     40.  In the Army there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Melissa B. Riesterhartsell) 
(Reference No. 341)

     41.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
colonel (Kimberly A. Dilger) (Reference No. 342)

     42.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Abigail R. Osman) (Reference No. 343)

     43.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Andrew J. Archuleta) (Reference No. 344)

     44.  In the Army Reserve there are 8 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Christopher C. Cross) (Reference No. 345)

     45.  In the Army there are 37 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Michael J. Baierlein) (Reference No. 346)

     46.  In the Army there are 575 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Austin P. Abarr) (Reference No. 347)

     47.  In the Army there are 489 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with James H. Abney) (Reference No. 348)

     48.  In the Army there are 981 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Mitchell A. Ables) (Reference No. 349)

     49.  In the Army Reserve there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Peter B. East) (Reference No. 350)

     50.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (list begins with William M. Schweitzer) (Reference No. 351)

     51.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of captain 
(list begins with Louis V. Scott) (Reference No. 353)

     52.  Col. William F. Wilkerson, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 359)

     53.  Col. Evelyn E. Laptook, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 360)

     54.  BG Ronald R. Ragin, USA to be major general (Reference No. 
361)

     55.  In the Army there are 37 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with Brandon C. Anderson) (Reference No. 
362)

     56.  In the Marine Corps there are 8 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with David R. Everly) (Reference No. 
363)

     57.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Walter D. Brafford) (Reference 
No. 364)

     58.  In the Navy there are 16 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Eric J. Anduze) (Reference No. 
365)

     59.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Brian J. Anderson) (Reference 
No. 366)

     60.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (list begins with Casey J. Moton) (Reference No. 367)

     61.  RADM(lh) Rick Freedman, USN to be rear admiral (Reference No. 
368)

     62.  RADM(lh) Kenneth W. Epps, USN to be rear admiral (Reference 
No. 369) 3

     63.  In the Navy there are 13 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (list begins with Stephen D. Barnett) (Reference No. 370)

     64.  Capt. Frank G. Schlereth III, USN to be rear admiral (lower 
half) (Reference No. 371)

     65.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Joshua C. Himes) (Reference No. 
372)

     66.  In the Navy there are 4 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Thomas J. Dickinson) (Reference 
No. 373)

     67.  In the Air Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
major general (list begins with Thomas W. Harrell) (Reference No. 379)

     68.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Maximilian S. Lee) (Reference No. 380)

     69.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (Justin J. Reeb) (Reference No. 381)

     70.  LTG James W. Bierman, Jr., USMC to be lieutenant general and 
Deputy Commandant for Plans, Policies, and Operations, Headquarters, US 
Marine Corps (Reference No. 389)

     71.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Matthew J. Clementz) (Reference No. 397)

     72.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Samuel T. Kramer) (Reference No. 398)

     73.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Carla A. Kiernan) (Reference No. 399)

     74.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(John W. Brock II) (Reference No. 400)

     75.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(John D. Horton) (Reference No. 404)

     76.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Joel N. Buffardi) (Reference No. 405)

     77.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Sarah D. Eccleston) (Reference No. 406)

     78.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Nicholas P. Fiebke) (Reference No. 407)

     79.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Andrew J. Doyle) (Reference No. 408)

     80.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(William T. Griggs) (Reference No. 409)

     81.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Megan L. Maloy) (Reference No. 410)

     82.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Kaitlyn M. Hernandez) (Reference No. 411)

     83.  In the Army Reserve there are 15 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Timothy I. Arcelay) (Reference No. 412)

     84.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Sara C. Adams) (Reference No. 413)

     85.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Christina G. Nalley) (Reference No. 414)

     86.  In the Army Reserve there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (Andrew Adamczyk) (Reference No. 415)

     87.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Ashley S. Lee) (Reference No. 416)

     88.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Timothy W. Lindeman) (Reference No. 417)

     89.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Ebony Q. Star) (Reference No. 418)

     90.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Sarah A. Delarosa) (Reference No. 419)

     91.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Mark T. Sopkiw, Jr.) (Reference No. 420)

     92.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Justin T. Thomas) (Reference No. 421)

     93.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major (Rei 
T. Israel) (Reference No. 422)

     94.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Adam L. Fox) (Reference No. 423)

     95.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Jason L. Workman) (Reference No. 424)

     96.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Stephen J. Cumby) (Reference No. 425)

     97.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Stephen M. Anderson) (Reference No. 426)

     98.  In the Navy Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
captain (Elisabeth Crumpler) (Reference No. 427)

     99.  In the Navy there are 27 appointments to the grade of captain 
(list begins with Kyle A. Aduskevich) (Reference No. 428)

    100.  In the Navy there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Bramwell B. Arnold III) (Reference No. 429)

    101.  In the Navy there are 34 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (list begins with Jeffrey R. Biermann) (Reference 
No. 430)

    102.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (James H. Knight) (Reference No. 431)

    103.  In the Space Force there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with Ross M. Boston) (Reference No. 432)

    104.  In the Space Force there are 38 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Jason M. Adams) (Reference No. 433)

    105.  In the Space Force there are 68 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Christopher John Alban) (Reference 
No. 434)

    106.  In the Space Force there are 58 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Bridget L. Ajinga) (Reference No. 
435)

    107.  In the Space Force there are 76 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with John W. Anderson) (Reference No. 436)

    108.  In the Space Force there are 100 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with Christina M. Akers) (Reference No. 437)

    109.  In the Space Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Cassandra R. Hidalgo) (Reference 
No. 438)

    110.  In the Space Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Edward E. Jones) (Reference No. 439)

_______________________________________________________________________
                                                                    
TOTAL: 3,059

    Chairman Reed. The motion carries. Thank you very much.
    Good morning. The Committee meets today to receive 
testimony from General Glen VanHerck, Commander of United 
States Northern Command and North American Aerospace Defense 
Command, or NORAD, and General Laura Richardson, Commander of 
United States Southern Command. I would note that this is 
General VanHerck's last appearance before the Committee in his 
current role. General, I would like to express my profound 
appreciation for your decades of exceptional service to the 
Nation and the Air Force, including your outstanding leadership 
of our NORTHCOM forces. Thank you, sir, very much.
    On behalf of the Committee, I would also thank the women 
and men who serve under your respective commands for their 
selfless service to the Nation.
    The global threats to the United States are edging closer 
and closer to home. The 2022 National Defense Strategy 
identifies one of the Defense Department's top priorities as 
``Defending the Homeland, paced to the growing multi-domain 
threat posed by the People's Republic of China.'' General 
VanHerck, your command is responsible for this Homeland defense 
mission. To be successful, NORTHCOM will need to re-evaluate 
its assumptions and plans against the PRC's growing 
capabilities to threaten us territorially, as well as in 
cyberspace and space. I understand NORTHCOM has been working to 
develop a new Homeland Defense Policy Guidance to meet this 
challenge, and I would ask for an update on its status and how 
it would transform the homeland defense plans of the 
Department.
    The recent shoot-downs of a Chinese surveillance balloon 
and three other unidentified aerial phenomena in our airspace 
have raised concerns that we may have an ``awareness gap'' that 
needs to be resolved. America's skies and seas must be secure 
to protect our citizens, and the Department must pursue 
technologies that provide 'forward detection' to buy decision 
time for decisionmakers.
    Relatedly, Congress is considering auctioning the ``S'' 
band spectrum, which is the spectrum in which NORTHCOM radars 
operate for early warning around the continental United States, 
for missile defense on the ground in Alaska, and for maritime 
domain awareness with our AEGIS weapons system. General 
VanHerck, the Committee would like to know the impact of 
curtailing or losing this spectrum with regard to your 
operations.
    Regionally, NORTHCOM provides support to U.S. law 
enforcement to counter cartels engaged in drug smuggling, human 
trafficking, and money laundering across the southwest border. 
General VanHerck, I am interested to know more about your 
efforts to build the capabilities of the security forces in 
Mexico and the Bahamas to address these regional threats, and 
your recommendations for strengthening those efforts.
    Turning to Southern Command, General Richardson, your 
command faces growing challenges from China and Russia in Latin 
America. The political and economic instability in the region 
presents a situation that our adversaries are seeking to 
exploit to increase their own influence. China, in particular, 
is expanding its presence in the region, primarily through 
acquisitions and investments in strategically critical 
locations like Panama, and, reflecting the growing influence 
Moscow has exerted in the region, most South American countries 
have been non-committal on Russia's war in Ukraine.
    A critical task for SOUTHCOM is to find ways to counter 
China and Russia's malign, hybrid activities. This challenge 
includes addressing sources of insecurity among our partners 
that our adversaries seek to exploit. It is also important to 
strengthen the capabilities of U.S. partners' security forces, 
including by building defense institutional capabilities that 
adhere to the rule of law and respect human rights.
    General Richardson, I am interested in your assessment of 
the challenge from near-peer competitors in the SOUTHCOM area, 
and how we might work strategically with our partners in the 
region to build resilience against these activities.
    SOUTHCOM, like NORTHCOM, continues to work closely with the 
U.S. Government interagency to support counternarcotic and 
counter-transnational criminal organization missions. A 
critical component of this effort has been the Joint 
Interagency Task Force-South, which provides a model for the 
Defense Department to work with civilian agencies and partner 
nations to build domain awareness and enhance interdiction 
capabilities.
    To help compensate for its limited resources, SOUTHCOM has 
sought to leverage ``non-traditional'' approaches, such as 
artificial intelligence and machine learning, to serve as a 
testbed for new tactics and operational concepts. General 
Richardson, I would like to know how the Department is taking 
advantage of the SOUTHCOM area as a valuable environment for 
innovative experimentation.
    Thank you, again, to our witnesses. I look forward to your 
testimoneys, and as a reminder for my colleagues, there will be 
a closed session immediately following this hearing in room 
SVC-217.
    Let me now turn it over to the Ranking Member, Senator 
Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I also want to 
thank our witnesses for being here and also for their gracious 
allocation of time to visit with us before the hearing.
    We rightly focus a lot of attention abroad, on Russia's 
unprovoked invasion of Ukraine, the Chinese Communist Party's 
constant march to dominance in the Pacific. But the dangers we 
face are not limited to areas like Ukraine and the Pacific. We 
also face dangers in our own neighborhood.
    General VanHerck has been a frequent visitor here recently, 
and I appreciate his candid briefings on the Chinese 
surveillance balloon that violated our sovereignty earlier this 
year.
    Unfortunately, Secretary of Defense Austin has declined to 
answer the simple questions Senator Rubio and I sent regarding 
the Department of Defense's apparently inaction during the 
earliest days of the balloon's excursion. In response to the 
letter Senator Rubio and I sent with questions, we received a 
very dismissive response from Under Secretary Colin Kahl, which 
said that all of our questions had already been answered. In 
fact, they were not answered and have not been answered by the 
Secretary. I expect General VanHerck will get some questions 
about that today, and I am grateful for his help in 
understanding what went wrong and how we can fix it.
    The Chinese surveillance balloon is the most public example 
of our Homeland defense gaps, but it is not the only one. 
Keeping in mind Putin's threats against our Homeland during the 
Ukraine war and China's threats of a military conflict with the 
United States over Taiwan, I hope General VanHerck will explain 
his requirements for keeping the American people safe.
    I am also concerned about the situation on both sides of 
our southwest border. President Biden's lax border policies 
have created a major opportunity for the Mexican criminal 
cartels and an unprecedented humanitarian and security crisis. 
In 2022, more than 70,000 Americans died of opioid overdoses, 
largely from Mexican-produced fentanyl. Since President Biden 
took office, more than 1.2 million illegal migrants have evaded 
law enforcement and entered our country. Most recently, the 
cartels murdered two American citizens.
    This simply cannot continue and does not have to continue. 
Given the scale of the current crisis, I hope our witnesses 
could comment on ways in which the southwest border support 
mission could be made more effective. I would also like to know 
whether there is anything Congress can do to work more 
effectively with the Mexican Government to counter the cartels.
    We also have challenges further south, in Central and South 
America. The implications of the growing Chinese threat 
continue to concern us. The Chinese Communist Party is 
following a well-known playbook on SOUTHCOM. It is aggressively 
using predatory economic and diplomatic practices to bully 
countries while it sets conditions to buildup the PRC military 
presence, gather intelligence, and limit United States access 
and influence. As General Richardson has stated before, 
proximity matters. We should all be concerned by what China is 
doing in the Southern Hemisphere and what it means for the 
stability of our partners and our national security.
    Despite the significant and growing security threats in 
that region, I am troubled to see that SOUTHCOM consistently 
faces a mismatch between its requirements and its resources. I 
look forward to General Richardson's candid assessment of 
SOUTHCOM's most pressing resource and capability shortfalls. I 
hope to understand how these shortfalls impact our troops' 
ability to accomplish the mission and defend our Nation. I 
would also like to hear how the Office of Strategic Capital 
might be used to help achieve military objectives at a lower 
cost.
    With that, Mr. Chairman, I yield back and thank our 
witnesses.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much Senator Wicker.
    Now let me recognize General VanHerck. Sir?

STATEMENT OF GENERAL GLEN D. VANHERCK, USAF, COMMANDER, UNITED 
 STATES NORTHERN COMMAND AND NORTH AMERICAN AEROSPACE DEFENSE 
                            COMMAND

    General VanHerck. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to appear today and represent the men and women of 
the United States Northern Command and North American Aerospace 
Defense Command.
    Today's strategic environment is the most complicated and 
potentially dangerous in my more than 35 years of service. 
While the United States military remains the most powerful and 
professional force in history, we have to account for the 
recent erosion of military advantage and take actions now to 
invest in modernization, implement innovative processes, 
prioritize our personnel and civilian hiring practices, and 
increase agile decisionmaking at all levels.
    Our competitors' actions and ambitions are global and all-
domain in nature. It is also clear that they have the 
capability and intent to hold our Homeland at risk above and 
below the nuclear threshold and in multiple domains to achieve 
their strategic objectives. The PRC and Russia have fielded 
cruise missiles, delivery platforms, and non-kinetic 
capabilities to hold at risk critical infrastructure of 
military and civilian in the United States and Canada. Those 
capabilities allow them to strike with limited warning and 
significant consequences. Limited warning due to a lack of all-
domain awareness inherently limits the decision space and 
options available to our national leaders which increases the 
risk of miscalculation and escalation.
    To address today's strategic environment, for nearly 3 
years I have focused on four strategic priorities: domain 
awareness, information dominance, decision superiority, and 
finally, global integration. Those priorities are critical to 
successfully defending the Homeland and to providing our 
national leaders with the only thing I can never give them 
enough of, and that is time--time to create deterrence options, 
and if required, defend and defeat options.
    While we have work to do, there has been some notable 
progress toward these key priorities. I am grateful to the 
Department and Congress for your support of the over-the-
horizon radars that will significantly improve air, maritime, 
and space domain awareness and the ability to detect and track 
threats well before they reach North America. But we need to go 
faster. An acquisition plan based on more than a decade is too 
long.
    Both the Department of Defense and the Canadian Department 
of National Defense have committed to funding over-the-horizon 
radar capabilities, and I respectfully urge both governments to 
ensure this vital and proven capability is fielded as quickly 
as possible. Likewise, Space Force's investment in advanced 
space-based warning capabilities and the Navy's commitment to 
modernizing the Integrated Undersea Surveillance System are 
vital to my homeland defense mission. Yet again, we cannot wait 
a decade or longer to field these new capabilities.
    Our commands need your continued support to outpace the 
rapid gains made by our competitors. Continued progress will 
require the Department and Congress to accept some risk by 
prioritizing modernization and innovation over maintaining 
obsolete platforms, organizations, and infrastructure, and 
occasionally accepting failure as part of the process.
    The generational challenges ahead of us require the best 
minds and expertise we can find, and the Department must also 
invest accordingly in civilian and military personnel 
recruiting, hiring, and retention. We must continue to build an 
enormous advantage that comes through our international 
alliances and partnerships.
    I believe that the greatest risk for the United States 
stems from an inability to change at the pace required by the 
strategic environment we are operating in. Homeland defense 
must be recognized as essential to contingency plans at home 
and for power projection abroad, and it is vital that all 
military planning account for that reality. In an era of 
incredible innovation and technological achievement, 
inflexible, outdated processes are a greater impediment to 
success than many of our competitors' advancements.
    Finally, I would like to comment on the incursion of the 
PRC high-altitude balloon into our airspace. The PRC HAB was 
obviously a significant event that shined light on the PRC's 
brazen intelligence collection against the United States and 
Canada. It was the first time NORTHCOM conducted an engagement 
over United States in our history. From this event, I commit to 
you that we have already generated critical lessons learned, 
and I can guarantee that we are doing whatever is necessary to 
keep our country and North America safe.
    On behalf of all the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, 
guardians, and civilians of NORTHCOM and NORAD, I would like to 
thank the Committee for your steadfast support, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Glen D. VanHerck 
follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Glen D. VanHerck
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee: thank you for the opportunity to testify, and for the 
honor of representing the men and women of U.S. Northern Command 
(USNORTHCOM) and North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD). From 
the day I assumed Command in August 2020, USNORTHCOM and NORAD have 
worked tirelessly to defend the Homeland and North America in an 
extraordinarily challenging strategic environment requiring the 
commands to adapt new approaches to how we plan, prepare, and operate. 
That innovation and evolution is necessary to outpace our competitors 
and is a testament to the devotion of our military and civilian 
personnel who stand constant watch over the United States and Canada.
    The commands have made tremendous progress in a short time, yet 
much work remains. While the United States military remains the most 
powerful and professional force in history, and our alliances and 
partnerships provide a vital strategic advantage over any potential 
adversary, it is clear that our competitive advantage is eroding. The 
successful defense of North America requires the Department of Defense 
to move beyond outdated assumptions and plans that do not fully reflect 
competitor capability, capacity, and intent to threaten the Homeland. 
Likewise, continued action is required to build enduring advantages and 
outpace the gains made by competitors around the globe. This will 
require the Department to invest in modernization, implement innovative 
processes, prioritize our personnel and improve civilian hiring 
practices, and increase agile decisionmaking at all levels.
                         strategic environment
    Today's strategic environment is the most complicated and 
potentially dangerous in my 35+ years of service. Our competitors and 
potential adversaries, particularly the People's Republic of China 
(PRC) and Russia, continue to challenge the rules-based international 
order that has provided global stability and prosperity over the last 7 
decades. They seek to advance their interests and gain global 
advantages through political intimidation, economic coercion, cyber and 
information operations, asymmetric attacks on infrastructure, and the 
direct threat or actual employment of military force.
The People's Republic of China (PRC)
    The PRC remains NORAD and USNORTHCOM's long-term pacing challenge. 
Beijing continues ambitious military modernization at an alarming pace. 
It would be naive to think their sprint to develop advanced cyber 
tools, maritime capabilities, and hypersonic technology has only 
regional applications, as the PRC continues to develop advanced long-
range conventional and strategic capabilities and the infrastructure 
necessary to project military power at greater distances. Underpinning 
this growth is a rapid nuclear expansion that is on pace for the PRC to 
expand their nuclear stockpile from what DOD estimates is over 400 
today to about 1,500 by 2035. While less observable, the PRC's 
aggressive efforts to exploit the information technology sector are 
accelerating an increasing threat to North America.
    The PRC's aggressive actions in the Pacific in mid-2022 following 
congressional visits to Taiwan illustrate how regional events create 
geostrategic ripple effects that can quickly reach our shores. 
President Xi is likely to use his next term in office to double down on 
the PRC's revisionist foreign policy, and is likely to include global 
efforts to undermine the United States and bolster partnerships with 
United States competitors, including Russia. In February 2022, Xi 
signaled his intent to follow this path when he declared the PRC-Russia 
friendship would have no limits in a public pronouncement just weeks 
before Russia's illegal and unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine. 
The PRC has almost certainly watched the war to draw lessons that will 
inform its next steps toward Taiwan.
    Xi's statement also proved to be more than rhetorical when, in May 
2022, the PRC and Russia conducted a combined bomber patrol over the 
Sea of Japan coinciding with the Quad Leaders' Summit in Tokyo. The May 
2022 bomber patrol was followed by a second bomber patrol in November 
2022. The cooperation is not confined to the air domain. PRC and 
Russian naval forces conducted a combined patrol in the fall of 2022 
that covered 7,000 nautical miles in the Pacific, included a first-ever 
combined naval transit of the Aleutian Islands, and came on the heels 
of Xi sending scores of troops to Russia to participate in Moscow's 
largest annual military exercise. For years, the PRC has relied on 
Russian military materiel to build its armed forces, and I am aware of 
reports that the PRC has transferred materiel with military 
applications to Russia during Russia's war against Ukraine. These 
actions are more than symbolic and demonstrate the PRC's growing power 
projection capabilities, which will likely encompass the Arctic in the 
next decade--a region the PRC is eying with its self-proclaimed status 
as a near-Arctic State.
Russia
    As USNORTHCOM and NORAD take necessary measures to defend against a 
growing PRC threat, the commands continue to defend the United States 
and Canada every day against Russian aggression in all domains. 
Russia's brazen and unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022 
proved that Russia has the capability and capacity to inflict 
significant damage to infrastructure and other critical targets with 
its all-domain long-range strike capabilities. Russia also has a 
history of conducting clandestine operations in other nations to 
achieve its political objectives. While Russia has overplayed its hand, 
suffered significant losses to the heroic Ukrainian defense forces, and 
inadvertently helped to unify NATO, it has gained real-world combat 
experience as it enters its second year of the full-scale invasion. The 
meager performance of Russia's ground forces in Ukraine should not 
overshadow other capabilities it has showcased in Ukraine, including 
air- and sea-launched cruise missiles capable of striking North 
America, cyber activities, and economic coercion. For the first time, 
we also saw Russia employ its new KILLJOY air-launched hypersonic 
missile in combat.
    Concurrent with its war against Ukraine, Russia has also continued 
to conduct major military exercises and test developmental capabilities 
that will compound the threat to North America once fielded. In April 
2022, Russia tested the massive SARMAT ICBM, a highly capable strategic 
weapon that helps reinforce the critical importance of a modern and 
reliable United States strategic deterrent. Meanwhile, Russia is 
testing its special mission Belgorod nuclear submarine, a modern 
platform capable of carrying the nuclear-capable Poseidon torpedo, 
designed to hold the Homeland at risk by striking coastal targets from 
thousands of miles away.
    The test of the Belgorod followed Russia's Arctic military exercise 
that included live-fire cruise missile launches designed to test 
Moscow's readiness for a conflict in the high north. Last fall, Russia 
added its first Severodvinsk-class conventional and nuclear capable 
cruise missile submarine to the Pacific Fleet, which poses a new 
challenge to our defense of the western approaches to North America. In 
October 2022, in the midst of elevated international tensions stemming 
from Russian threats to escalate its already brutal campaign in 
Ukraine, Russia chose to proceed with its annual strategic forces 
exercise, including demonstrations of multiple nuclear strike 
capabilities. Finally, in January 2023, a Russian Gorshkov-class 
frigate transited the western Atlantic while armed with Tsirkon 
hypersonic cruise missiles.
    I believe it would be shortsighted to view Russia's war against 
Ukraine as a limited regional crisis. Russia's actions increase the 
very real risk of miscalculation and the conflict's expansion beyond 
its current boundaries--scenarios that could rapidly increase the risks 
to North America and continental defense. If Russia should seek to 
compel allies to reconsider their support for Ukraine through 
escalatory actions or follow through with the desperate threats to use 
nuclear weapons in Ukraine, the risks to the Homeland would increase.
DPRK and Iran
    The Democratic Peoples' Republic of Korea (DPRK) tested at least 65 
conventional theater and long-range nuclear capabilities over the last 
year. That number includes the first tests of a new larger, longer 
range, and more capable ICBM, adding another missile that can likely 
reach the entire Homeland and one the regime claims is capable of 
carrying a hypersonic glide vehicle payload. The DPRK tested more 
missiles in 2022 than any time in its history, showing that the regime 
will continue to prioritize military capabilities at the expense of 
needed food and pandemic relief for its people. Public reports of 
renewed nuclear test preparations further highlight the grave danger 
this regime poses to regional and global stability. We must remain 
ready for multiple contingencies and potential crisis on the Korean 
Peninsula.
    The DPRK's reckless pursuit of advanced nuclear capabilities and 
robust ballistic missile research, development, and testing threatens 
regional stability, our allies and partners, and potentially the 
Homeland. However, today I remain confident in our current capability 
to defend the Homeland against a limited DPRK ballistic missile threat. 
Looking forward, I am concerned about future capacity and capability to 
respond to advancing DPRK ballistic missile threats, making it crucial 
to field the Next Generation Interceptor (NGI) as funded in the Fiscal 
Year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act (P.L. 117-328).
    Iran has not shied away from pursuing malign global activities, 
including in North America; the regime continues to pose a significant 
threat to the United States, as well as our partners in the Central 
Command region. The August 2022 disclosure of an Iranian plot to 
assassinate a former senior United States official on United States 
territory illustrated the brazenness of the Iranian Government. The 
regime's decision to provide Russia with unmanned loitering munitions 
used to attack civilian infrastructure in Ukraine provides further 
evidence of Iran's embrace of destabilizing activity. A future decision 
by the regime to pursue an ICBM-class missile would add yet another 
threat vector capable of striking North America.
Regional Security Threats
    I remain concerned about transnational organized crime in Mexico 
and the Western Hemisphere and the unrelenting violence it spawns and 
insecurity it creates, as cartels vie for control of lucrative illicit 
markets. Cartels control fentanyl, cocaine and methamphetamine 
trafficking as well as other drugs, and are demonstrating the 
capability to use improvised explosives and small-unmanned aerial 
systems against Mexican security forces in Mexico, which will likely 
embolden the cartels and challenge our partners. As USNORTHCOM supports 
our law enforcement and international partners in countering 
transnational criminal organizations in our area of operations, I 
remain steadfast in my commitment to our military partners in Mexico 
and The Bahamas.
    I commend Mexico's arrest last summer of the cartel member who 
brutally murdered a DEA agent decades earlier, as well as the recent 
arrests of Ovidio Guzman Lopez, the son of Sinaloa Cartel leader 
Joaquin ``El Chapo'' Guzman, and Jose Rodolfo Villareal-Hernandez, a 
Mexican cartel leader known as ``El Gato.'' These arrests are examples 
of a shared commitment to justice, buttressed by shared values and our 
decades-long partnership, which stands in stark contrast to PRC and 
Russian malign and self-serving activities in the Western Hemisphere.
    I am committed to deepening the already strong partnership with the 
Mexican and Bahamian militaries to advance our mutual goals, from 
upholding human rights to ensuring hemispheric defense. I was proud to 
host my counterparts from the Mexican Department of National Defense 
(SEDENA) and Department of the Navy (SEMAR) in early 2022 and visit The 
Bahamas in late 2021, and we will continue to work with Mexico and The 
Bahamas to stamp out attempts by the PRC or Russia to divide our 
countries and our partnerships.
Transnational challenges
    USNORTHCOM's 20th anniversary offered a reminder of the 
transnational challenges that have shaped the Command from its 
inception. Foremost is the enduring transnational terrorist threat to 
North America, led by Sunni extremist groups and their supporters in 
North America. The arrest in August 2022 of an ISIS-inspired individual 
in New Mexico who had surveilled a United States military base is a 
stark reminder that military facilities remain attractive targets to 
terrorists. More broadly, the Taliban's return to power in Afghanistan 
and violent extremist groups' ongoing presence in the region indicate a 
renewed threat to the region that we cannot discount. This extremist 
threat transcends south Asia and extends to other regions with security 
challenges, including the Middle East and sub-Saharan Africa, where 
terrorists continue to operate, train, and plan.
Where We Are Today: 20 Years of USNORTHCOM and 65 Years of NORAD
    USNORTHCOM was established on October 1st, 2002, in the immediate 
aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks against the United States, 
marking the first time since the colonial era a single commander was 
responsible for the defense of the U.S. Homeland. Twenty years later, 
the likelihood of a major attack inside the United States by a foreign 
violent extremist organization has diminished following a generational, 
whole-of-nation effort. However, the primary threat to the Homeland is 
now far more significant and consequential. Multiple peer competitors 
and rogue states possess the capability and capacity to threaten our 
citizens, critical infrastructure, and vital institutions. These 
competitors possess, or are developing, the modern capabilities that 
limit the time and options available to decisionmakers responsible for 
defending our interests. In addition to destructive kinetic and cyber 
capabilities, malign actors actively exploit our democratic society by 
spreading disinformation that drives wedges between our citizens, 
undermines democracy, and weakens our alliances.
    In crisis or conflict, potential adversaries will likely seek to 
interfere with the Department's ability to project power abroad. 
Disruptions of military and civilian transportation infrastructure in 
North America could impede the ability of the United States and Canada 
to project combat power. Today I assess, as I have for nearly 3 years, 
that homeland defense is a potential limiting factor to ensuring rapid 
and effective implementation and execution of global contingency plans. 
This is due to my lack of domain awareness, limited timely access to 
forces that are ready to operate throughout my areas of responsibility, 
including the Arctic, and a lack of resilient infrastructure enabling 
the Joint Force to fight in and from the Homeland while ensuring 
forward power projection.
    Defending the Homeland against an ever-growing array of kinetic and 
non-kinetic threats will continue to require a collaborative, whole-of-
nation approach to assessing vulnerabilities and developing appropriate 
deterrence, denial, and defense strategies. Cyber risks to critical 
infrastructure remain a significant concern and a domain awareness gap. 
DOD is tasked only with defending defense networks, but military 
facilities and missions frequently rely on civilian lifelines such as 
energy grids, transportation infrastructure, and other critical 
infrastructure. USNORTHCOM, due to law and policy, has limited insight 
into potential risks to commercial networks, which could lead to 
uncertainty in planning for consequence management. DOD's establishment 
of policy regarding the defense of critical infrastructure is a 
necessary step forward, and USNORTHCOM will continue to work with the 
Department and key mission partners, to include agencies with critical 
infrastructure security and cybersecurity responsibilities, to ensure 
key defense infrastructure is defended from attacks.
    NORAD, the unique United States and Canadian bi-national command, 
was established in May 1958 to defend North America from cold war-era 
Russian strategic bombers entering United States and Canadian airspace 
from the Arctic approaches. Sixty-five years later, Russia has restored 
its capability to threaten North America with modernized bombers, 
surface ships, and submarines armed with long-range, highly precise 
nuclear and conventional cruise missiles. The PRC is making rapid 
progress in developing similar capabilities, which will further 
complicate NORAD's warning missions and affect national strategic 
decisionmaking.
    While NORAD's missions to provide aerospace warning, aerospace 
control, and maritime warning remain critical to homeland defense, 
action and investment are needed to keep pace with competitors that 
clearly seek to hold North America at risk above and below the nuclear 
threshold. For decades, NORAD has relied heavily on the North Warning 
System arrayed along the Arctic coasts of Canada and Alaska to detect 
potential airborne threats to North America. It is clear that our 
competitors possess long-range strike capabilities that could be used 
to attack the United States and Canada from outside the detection range 
of legacy sensors.
    In order to maintain domain awareness and ensure integrated threat 
warning and attack assessment to national leadership, the United States 
and Canada must continue to move swiftly to field Over the Horizon 
Radar (OTHR), as funded in the Fiscal Year 2023 Consolidated Omnibus 
Appropriations Act (P.L. 117-328). OTHR is a proven, affordable 
technology that will ensure our ability to detect threats from surface 
to space in the approaches to North America. I commend both the 
Department of Defense and the Canadian Department of National Defence 
for their commitment in fiscal year 2023 to investing in OTHR, and I 
respectfully urge both Governments to ensure this vital capability is 
fielded as quickly as possible.
    NORAD's contributions to Homeland and continental defense will 
remain vital for many years to come, and will continue to rely on 
strong cooperation and shared investment between the United States and 
Canada. The United States and Canadian continental defense framework 
has an unrivaled legacy of success and serves as an international model 
of defense cooperation. I remain encouraged by the bi-national 
commitments to modernizing the platforms, sensors, and capabilities 
necessary to execute NORAD's missions; this collaborative approach to 
deterring and defending against threats to North America is critical. 
NORAD must continue to look to the future and take necessary measures 
today to counter the threats of tomorrow, and investments by the United 
States and Canada must address kinetic and non-kinetic threats to our 
nations.
    Potential threats to North America routinely transit international 
borders and the boundaries between U.S. geographic combatant command 
areas of responsibility. NORAD's ability to provide timely aerospace 
warning and control and maritime warning will be bolstered by the 
United States and Canada's joint commitment to improving global domain 
awareness, modernizing command and control systems to provide faster, 
better-informed decisionmaking, and continuing collaborative research, 
development, and innovation. These efforts will ensure NORAD's ability 
to compete with the PRC and Russia for years to come while clearly 
signaling a lasting commitment to a robust, modern, and effective 
defense of North America.
USNORTHCOM and NORAD Priorities
    My priorities for NORAD and USNORTHCOM directly reflect the need to 
inform the rapid, agile decisions required of senior leaders in this 
dynamic and complex strategic environment. Our competitors continue to 
field capabilities specifically intended to strike with limited 
warning, which decreases the time and options available to national 
leaders in a crisis. Continuing to trust legacy processes and 
capabilities increases risk to the Homeland and compounds the risk of 
miscalculation and inadvertent escalation. USNORTHCOM and NORAD are 
working urgently to increase the domain awareness, information sharing, 
and global integration necessary to ensure national leaders have as 
much time and as many options as possible.
    As competitors and potential adversaries continue to field advanced 
all-domain capabilities with the potential to create significant 
effects in the Homeland, it is imperative that the United States and 
Canada move quickly to improve domain awareness from the seafloor to 
space and cyberspace for all approaches to North America. The Over-the-
Horizon Radars (OTHR) funded in the Fiscal Year 2023 President's 
Budget, along with the OTHRs announced by the Government of Canada as 
part of NORAD modernization, will leverage proven technology and will 
significantly improve the ability of USNORTHCOM and NORAD to detect and 
track potential threats to North America and the Homeland from the 
Earth's surface to space. That capability, in turn, will directly 
correlate to more time available to leaders at all levels, enabling the 
creation and employment of better deterrence options and if required, 
defeat options.
    U.S. Space Force investments in advanced space-based missile 
warning sensor capabilities show great promise with particular regard 
to hypersonic and advanced missile threats. These future systems will 
detect, track, and identify threats, including hypersonic threats, 
enable better warning and assessment, and develop actionable targeting 
solutions, at a much faster pace than we currently experience, while 
also delivering an inherent operational resilience. Given our 
competitors' advanced maritime domain capabilities, I fully support the 
Navy's investment in a modernized Integrated Undersea Surveillance 
System. These capabilities, in turn, will directly correlate to more 
time and options available to produce a favorable outcome for the 
United States and Canada.
    Canada's plans to fund a layered surveillance system that will 
improve shared domain awareness in the northern air and maritime 
approaches to North America will have significant, long-term benefits 
for both NORAD and USNORTHCOM's missions. Planned Canadian investment 
in Arctic and Polar radars and spaced-based surveillance systems, along 
with advanced munitions, communications, and infrastructure clearly 
demonstrates shared commitment to NORAD and the combined defense of the 
United States and Canada.
    In addition to the investment in OTHR, NORAD and USNORTHCOM have 
also demonstrated the potential for linking existing platforms and 
sharing data with multiple commands, interagency and international 
partners. By sharing data previously trapped in bureaucratic and 
organizational stovepipes through innovative programs like Pathfinder, 
Northstar, and the Global Information Dominance Experiments (GIDE), 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD have proven that it is possible to rapidly improve 
domain awareness and streamline global information sharing without the 
costs associated with fielding exquisite new capabilities. It is 
crucial that the Department of Defense and the Services, as well as the 
Canadian Department of National Defence, continue the work to unlock 
the remarkable potential of these initiatives.
    I am encouraged by the establishment of the Department's Chief 
Digital and Artificial Intelligence Office (CDAO), and I believe that 
the CDAO must be empowered to rapidly integrate systems, software and 
platforms in order to maintain our competitive advantage across the 
Joint Force. Over the past several years, actions by each of our 
competitors and potential adversaries have made it clear that regional 
actions have global diplomatic, economic, and military ramifications. 
It is simply unrealistic to assume that crises will remain confined by 
artificial boundaries, and we must adapt plans and perspectives to 
account for that global reality.
    The feasibility of every other Geographic Combatant Command's plans 
will require active campaigning in and from North America, and 
successful defense of the Homeland is necessary to deter adversaries 
and assure allies and partners. Therefore, I have also directed that 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD prioritize homeland defense campaigning to 
demonstrate our readiness, capabilities, and resiliency. I am also 
operationalizing the commands to accelerate the flow of information 
from sensor to decisionmaker. Our competitors and potential adversaries 
have shown that they will hold the Homeland at risk in a conflict, and 
USNORTHCOM and NORAD are acting today to ensure homeland defense plans 
are understood, exercised, and resourced.
    While USNORTHCOM and NORAD have made strides in the homeland 
defense mission, building a resilient Joint Force is a fundamental 
element of all Department planning, exercises, and operations. The 
DOD's worldwide missions and responsibilities must evolve from 
regionally focused approaches to globally integrated efforts that 
account for finite resources and associated risks. At present, I am 
concerned for the commands' ability to execute assigned missions--
including contingency and operations plans in support of homeland 
defense. I am limited by a lack of timely access to forces that are 
organized, trained, and equipped to operate throughout the NORAD area 
of operations and the NORTHCOM area of responsibility, as well as by 
insufficient supporting infrastructure.
    A strong homeland defense is the foundation of our Nation's ability 
to project power globally while deterring aggression and achieving our 
strategic objectives in competition, crisis, and conflict. As such, 
every plan, exercise, and policy decision must consider the necessity 
of defending the Homeland when evaluating competing demands for forces 
and threats to global campaigning. That, in turn, will require the 
Department of Defense and the Canadian Department of National Defence 
to place greater focus on developing the depth, flexibility, advanced 
technologies, and supporting infrastructure required to respond to 
future challenges while addressing growing threats to the Homeland.
Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA)
    When directed by the Secretary of Defense, USNORTHCOM provides 
Defense Support of Civil Authorities (DSCA) in the Continental United 
States, Alaska, and Puerto Rico. In preparing for and responding to 
major natural and human-caused disasters, USNORTHCOM serves as the DSCA 
synchronizer to support assessment and recovery while simultaneously 
acting as the supported combatant command in the command's area of 
operations.
    USNORTHCOM often supports Federal, State, tribal, territorial, and 
local (FSTTL) disaster relief efforts. These collaborative, whole-of-
government efforts demonstrate national resilience that should reassure 
the American public, while also making clear to potential aggressors, 
that the United States routinely executes interagency domestic relief 
operations that allow our Nation to recovery quickly following even 
large-scale disasters. It is equally important for our FSTTL partners 
to identify and address their capabilities and capacity gaps to fully 
perform the roles, missions, and operations under their authorities. 
This kind of response, particularly when it is accomplished with little 
or no military support, can generate a deterrent effect by casting 
doubt in competitors' minds about their ability to produce significant 
effects from an attack on the Homeland.
    USNORTHCOM is uniquely suited to support our Federal partners in 
the aftermath of a chemical, biological, radiological, or nuclear 
(CBRN) attack. The Department must remain committed to this crucial 
mission to ensure these highly trained, specialized elements stand 
ready to respond immediately in the event of a weapon of mass 
destruction event in the United States.
    I continue to stress the importance of USNORTHCOM's defense support 
of civil authorities, as rapidly executed, well-planned, multi-agency 
responses to wildfires, hurricanes, pandemics, and other significant 
disruptions are perhaps the most visible demonstration of the 
military's support to the American people. USNORTHCOM works year-round 
with our mission partners at every level to strengthen relationships, 
improve communications, and incorporate lessons learned from previous 
responses in order to deliver rapid and effective support to lead 
Federal agencies. Our command takes tremendous pride in supporting our 
FSTTL partners, while helping to highlight the resourcefulness and 
solidarity of the American people in the face of adversity. It should 
be clear to competitors and potential aggressors that the United States 
routinely responds to and recovers quickly from large-scale 
disruptions--and USNORTHCOM is always ready to support those efforts 
with military capabilities as directed by the Secretary.
    USNORTHCOM support to civil authorities includes the command's 
ongoing support of Federal law enforcement efforts to counter the 
transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) that have caused so much 
harm to our Nation. Illicit drugs trafficked by transnational criminal 
enterprises kill more than one hundred thousand U.S. citizens each 
year, and the number of fatal overdoses have risen dramatically as 
cartels have increased the volume of fentanyl smuggled into the United 
States. As directed by the Secretary of Defense and in accordance with 
my direct guidance, USNORTHCOM's subordinate command, Joint Task Force 
North (JTF-N), provides U.S. Federal law enforcement partners with 
intelligence and counter-threat finance analysis and other support as 
requested to disrupt the sophisticated financial and physical networks 
used to infiltrate illicit goods and exploited human traffic into the 
United States. The important work done by USNORTHCOM and JTF-N in 
countering transnational criminal organizations and disrupting the flow 
of illegal drugs into the United States is a national security 
imperative that directly supports homeland defense.
    Natural disasters, public health threats, and transnational 
irregular migration will likely continue to require DOD support for our 
lead Federal partners. Environmental change will also continue to have 
a direct impact on military readiness and resources, as was made clear 
by the massive destructive power of Hurricane Ian in September 2022 and 
by western wildfires that are growing in scale and frequency as fire 
seasons now extend throughout most of the year. It is necessary to plan 
and account for the growing likelihood of natural disasters that 
disrupt military operations and damage critical infrastructure, while 
units involved in response operations require time to reset and recover 
after completing their missions. The long-term consequences of extreme 
weather, rising sea levels, and increased flooding will continue to 
affect DOD missions, infrastructure, and personnel, especially those in 
the Homeland.
Security Cooperation
    In addition to our more visible homeland defense and DSCA 
operations, USNORTHCOM continues to reap tremendous benefits from our 
military-to-military relationships with our allies and partners in 
Canada, Mexico, and The Bahamas. Security cooperation with our 
neighbors is crucial to regional security, countering the influence of 
peer competitors, and addressing shared challenges. Security 
cooperation provides a critical and lasting advantage over our more 
isolated competitors, and I am grateful to the Department and to this 
Committee for your ongoing support of USNORTHCOM's vital work with our 
allies and partners. I am proud to work with my military counterparts 
in Canada, Mexico, and The Bahamas as we support one another's efforts 
to defend our nations and stand united against malign actors seeking to 
expand influence and presence in the Western Hemisphere.
    The military-to-military relationship between the United States and 
Canada remains extraordinary and vital. In addition to standing side by 
side as partners in NORAD for nearly 65 years, Canada has been a 
stalwart ally in continental defense and operations overseas for 
decades. The unique trust between our militaries is immediately 
apparent within the USNORTHCOM and NORAD headquarters, as United States 
and Canadian personnel work side-by-side in pursuit of shared missions 
and objectives. The Canadian Armed Forces' shared commitment to 
improved domain awareness, information sharing, and modernization of 
the capabilities necessary for deterrence and continental defense is 
essential to our united efforts to defend North America, and I am 
fortunate to serve alongside such steadfast and trusted allies.
    The Mexican Department of National Defense (SEDENA) and Department 
of the Navy (SEMAR) continue to meet daunting internal and external 
security challenges with professionalism and resiliency. Keenly focused 
on enhancing regional defense, our Mexican military partners continue 
to make major investments in a modern, capable, and reliable force 
capable of interoperability with the United States and other partners. 
In light of that important effort, USNORTHCOM strongly supports SEDENA 
and SEMAR modernization initiatives, including the potential divestment 
of their fleet of MI-17 helicopters in favor of Western helicopters.
    In April 2022, it was my honor to host the Secretaries of SEDENA 
and SEMAR at USNORTHCOM for the Bilateral Military Cooperation 
Roundtable (BMCR). During this important annual dialog, USNORTHCOM and 
our Mexican military partners conducted a candid and highly productive 
assessment of our mutual security challenges, associated requirements, 
and shared commitment to addressing threats to our nations. Over the 
course of 3 days, Secretary General Sandoval, Secretary Admiral Ojeda, 
and I reaffirmed our military-to-military relationship and committed to 
a number of concrete steps that will have significant and lasting 
positive impacts on regional security.
    Our partners in the Royal Bahamian Defence Force (RBDF) continue to 
punch above their weight as they continue to provide important 
contributions to regional security. USNORTHCOM and the RBDF operate 
maritime surveillance systems at Great Inagua and Coral Harbour, and 
plans are on track to add a third site in the coming years. That shared 
capability has significant benefits for domain awareness in the 
southern approaches to North America and demonstrates The Bahamas' 
ongoing commitment to security cooperation with USNORTHCOM. Our 
collaboration has taken on added importance as the PRC's diplomatic 
corps in Nassau continues to produce anti-United States public 
statements while highlighting Chinese economic investment and 
humanitarian relief efforts in The Bahamas.
    USNORTHCOM is strongly committed to a long-term partnership with 
the RBDF, and continued whole-of-government engagement and investment 
by the United States. As you know, the United States has been without a 
confirmed Ambassador to The Bahamas since 2011. No action was taken on 
the President's nominee last year, and the nomination was resubmitted 
in January 2023. This senior diplomatic position is critical to 
demonstrating the importance of the relationship between the United 
States and The Bahamas and to mitigating the PRC's efforts to gain a 
foothold only 50 miles from the United States east coast.
The Arctic
    The ability of the joint force to operate and campaign in the 
Arctic remains a pressing concern for USNORTHCOM and NORAD. The PRC and 
Russia continue to invest in Arctic capabilities as both seek to 
increase presence and influence in the region while shifting the rules-
based international order to their advantage. More than 50 percent of 
USNORTHCOM's area of operations is in the Arctic, and USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD's priorities in the region continue to focus on increased 
presence, campaigning through joint training and exercises, and close 
collaboration with allies and partners.
    The effects of environmental change in the Arctic will have 
significant impacts on accessibility, infrastructure, and competition 
for the foreseeable future, and the region remains the most unforgiving 
operational environment on earth. As the Department balances the 
demands of global mission requirements with difficult budgetary 
choices, USNORTHCOM and NORAD require access to trained and ready 
forces capable of operating throughout the commands' areas of 
responsibility--to include the Arctic. The Joint Force must keep sight 
of the fact that special training and purpose-built equipment are 
necessary to operate in a region in which extreme climate, distance, 
and geography quickly overtake the unprepared.
    Over the last year, USNORTHCOM and NORAD collaborated with USEUCOM, 
USINDOPACOM, USTRANSCOM, USSOCOM and the military Services while 
conducting joint exercises in Alaska, Greenland, and northern Canada. 
These demanding events expose Joint Force participants to the demands 
of the Arctic operating environment and help to reinforce the necessity 
of a force trained and equipped to survive in the extreme cold and 
remoteness that defines much of the region. I am encouraged by the 
strategic objectives stated in the U.S. National Strategy for the 
Arctic that support better understanding of the region, exercising 
presence, and capitalizing on the definitive advantage of our 
international alliances and partnerships.
    While the military Services' respective Arctic strategies 
acknowledge the importance of the Arctic and the need to develop the 
capabilities needed to operate and compete in the region, direct 
investment in Arctic-capable platforms, training, and infrastructure 
continues to lag. It is necessary that the Joint Force has the ability 
to compete, fight, and win in the Arctic in the coming years, and the 
time for the Services to invest in the required equipment, 
infrastructure, and training is now. The PRC and Russia have clearly 
demonstrated their intent to expand their Arctic presence and 
operations, and I urge the Department of Defense, the Services, my 
fellow combatant commanders, and the Canadian Department of National 
Defence to move faster toward improving our collective ability to 
succeed in this strategically vital region.
Conclusion
    Homeland defense remains the core mission of both USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD. The one constant throughout my time in command has been the 
extraordinary pace at which our competitors have advanced their 
capabilities to threaten the Homeland. Despite those clear risks, the 
processes used by the Department of Defense and the Canadian Department 
of National Defence for planning, acquisitions, personnel hiring, 
technology development, and other activities necessary to the success 
of the defense enterprise remain largely unchanged from when I received 
my commission nearly 36 years ago.
    As competitors develop greater capability, capacity, and intent to 
challenge the United States, Canada, and the rules-based international 
order, I believe that the greatest strategic risk for the United States 
stems from our own inability to adapt at a pace required by the 
changing strategic environment. In an era of incredible innovation and 
technological achievement, inflexible, outdated processes are a greater 
impediment to success than many of our competitors' capability 
advancements. We cannot continue to rely on Industrial Age practices 
and legacy platforms to compete in a digital age, and if we fail to 
evolve at the pace demanded by the strategic environment, our 
competitive advantage will continue to erode.
    The Department and Congress must also be more willing to accept the 
relatively low risks associated with retiring legacy platforms in order 
to ensure our ability to fight and win against advanced and well-
resourced competitors. Over the last decade, the PRC and Russia have 
made extraordinary technological advancements while the Department 
remains encumbered by obsolete capabilities and associated costs. To 
defend the Homeland, USNORTHCOM and NORAD require a modern force with 
the capacity and capability to deter and if required defeat advanced 
peer competitors. Retiring systems that have exceeded their operational 
lifespans--to include fighters and command and control platforms at the 
end of their service lives--is necessary to accelerate the arrival of 
next generation capabilities.
    Along with faster, more flexible development and acquisitions, the 
Joint Force requires predictable and timely funding to maintain 
readiness and increase capability, capacity, and resilience. The 
Continuing Resolutions that have become commonplace over the last 
decade have direct and lasting adverse consequences for military 
readiness, modernization, and planning. Predictable, on-time annual 
budgeting and appropriations, along with streamlined Department 
processes and greater tolerance for risk in developing and testing new 
capabilities, are essential to maintaining our competitive advantage.
    The need to move faster is clear. The PRC and Russia have already 
fielded highly advanced hypersonic capabilities, while the United 
States' hypersonic program, although accelerating, still languishes 
well behind our competitors' efforts. Further, DOD faces operational 
challenges with civilian hiring processes for recruiting and hiring the 
innovative and experientially diverse workforce needed to drive 
innovation and advancement on pace with the civilian tech sector. 
Simply put, the Department must continue to strategically tackle hiring 
and personnel management improvements to move its workforce goal of 
being an employer of choice forward.
    Finally, the PRC high altitude balloon (HAB) incursion into our 
national airspace was obviously a significant event that shined a light 
on the PRC's brazen intelligence collection against the United States 
and Canada. It was the first time USNORTHCOM conducted an engagement 
over the United States in our history, and it made it clear that our 
competitors have the capability and intent to reach the Homeland. The 
three Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs), also shot down days later 
by USNORTHCOM and NORAD, clearly demonstrated the challenges associated 
with detecting and identifying unmanned objects in U.S. airspace. As 
for NORAD and NORTHCOM, I commit to you that this event has already 
generated critical lessons learned for my commands and our mission 
partners, and I can guarantee that NORTHCOM and NORAD are going to 
continue to learn from it and do whatever is necessary to keep our 
country safe.
    While we face significant challenges, there should be no doubt we 
have the finest military on the planet and that the commands will 
defend our nations with tenacity and resolve. In what is likely my 
final appearance before this Committee, I remain deeply humbled and 
immensely proud to lead the noblest mission of any Combatant Command--
defending the Homeland. I am grateful to the Committee for your 
longstanding support of our missions and of the men and women who stand 
watch over our Nation every day. I thank you for the honor of 
representing our soldiers, sailors, airmen, guardians, marines, and 
civilians.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General VanHerck.
    General Richardson, please.

   STATEMENT OF GENERAL LAURA J. RICHARDSON, USA, COMMANDER, 
                 UNITED STATES SOUTHERN COMMAND

    General Richardson. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
and distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to appear before you with General VanHerck. I am 
honored to represent the men and women of United States 
Southern Command to discuss the challenges we share with our 
neighbors in Latin America and the Caribbean.
    As stated in the National Security Strategy, ``No region 
impacts the United States more directly than the Western 
Hemisphere.'' Last year I testified before this Committee and 
stated, ``This region, our shared neighborhood, is under 
assault from a host of cross-cutting, trans-boundary challenges 
that directly threaten our Homeland.'' This is still true 
today, and is a call to action.
    In the last year I have spent time in the region, meeting 
with leaders to better understand these challenges and the 
threat they pose to our mutual interests. The world is at an 
inflection point.
    Our partners in the Western Hemisphere, with whom we are 
bonded by trade, shared values, democratic traditions, and 
family ties, are feeling the impacts of external interference 
and coercion. The People's Republic of China, our pacing 
challenge, continues to expand its economic, diplomatic, 
technological, informational, and military influence in Latin 
America and the Caribbean. The PRC has the capability and 
intent to eschew international norms, advance the brand of 
authoritarianism, and amass power and influence at the expense 
of these democracies.
    The PRC has expanded its ability to extract resources, and 
gets 36 percent of its food imports from the region and 75 
percent of its lithium from South America. The PRC also leads 
the hemisphere in illegal, unregulated, unreported fishing, 
raiding the fish of coastal countries, costing a profit loss of 
about $3 billion.
    The PRC has also established ports in multiple countries, 
manipulated governments through predatory investment practices, 
and built potential dual-use space facilities, the most space 
facilities in any combatant command region.
    Russia, an acute threat, bolsters authoritarian regimes in 
Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela, and they continue its extensive 
disinformation campaign and has media agreements with 11 
countries in the region. There are over 30 million followers of 
Russia Today en Espanol and nik Mundo. These activities 
undermine democracies and challenge our credibility.
    Both China and Russia exploit the presence of transnational 
criminal organizations and amplify their destabilizing impacts 
on democratic governments. TCOs spread violence and corruption 
throughout the region and beyond. Their fentanyl-laced cocaine 
contributes to the deaths of Americans in cities and towns 
across the country.
    The good news is by working with our very willing parts 
this leads to the best defense. We must use all available 
levers to strengthen our partnerships with the 28 like-minded 
democracies in the region who understand the power of working 
together to counter these shared threats. Our partners look to 
us to lead in the hemisphere. We have an obligation to meet 
them where they are and continue to aggressively address our 
common security challenges.
    We must continue to maximize the effectiveness of important 
tools like security cooperation programs to train and equip our 
partner militaries and security forces; conduct multilateral 
exercises; and build interoperability, and increase the State 
Department's international military, education, and training, 
foreign military sales programs to educate, train, and build 
capacity that our partners put to immediate use to stand 
shoulder-to-shoulder with us.
    As the National Defense Strategy stages, the United States 
derives immense benefits from a stable, peaceful, and 
democratic Western Hemisphere that reduces security threats to 
the Homeland. USSOUTHCOM is putting integrated deterrence into 
action every day, using innovative methods to work seamlessly 
across all domains with the other combatant commands, the Joint 
Force, allies and partners, Congress, the U.S. interagency, 
NGO's, and the private sector to help build a hemisphere that 
is free, secure, and prosperous for our generation and 
generations to come. I call this Team Democracy, and we need to 
field a resourced team.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Laura J. Richardson 
follows:]

           Prepared Statement by General Laura J. Richardson
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Committee 
Members, 2022 marked two important milestones for U.S. Southern Command 
(USSOUTHCOM): the 25th anniversary of our move from Panama to Miami in 
1997, and the 25th anniversary of our Human Rights Initiative. For a 
quarter of a century, the brave women and men of USSOUTHCOM have called 
Miami home, while working with allies and partners to improve security, 
advance democratic ideals, and promote peace and prosperity throughout 
our shared neighborhood.
    At the end of the cold war, the United States, its allies, and 
partners believed that democracy would displace authoritarianism around 
the globe. Twenty-five years later, the strategic environment in Latin 
America and the Caribbean (LAC) has changed significantly. The 2022 
National Security Strategy (NSS) states, in no uncertain terms, that 
``autocrats are working overtime to undermine democracy.'' \1\ We see 
this right here in our own hemisphere that external malign actors like 
the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russia are aggressively 
exerting influence over our democratic neighbors.
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    The NSS also states ``no region impacts the United States more 
directly than the Western Hemisphere.'' \2\ Presence and proximity 
absolutely matter, and a stable and secure Western Hemisphere is 
critical to homeland defense. After traveling across LAC and meeting 
our partners face to face, I can confirm our security at home is 
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    Our adversaries use a multidisciplinary and multidomain approach to 
counter democracy and SOUTHCOM, our allies, and partners must use the 
full weight of integrated deterrence, leveraging the whole-of-
government, industry, private sector, and academia, in order to 
effectively respond. With shared purpose and mutual trust, we must 
collectively act with a much greater sense of urgency to ensure this 
hemisphere remains a stronghold for democracy.
    Today, the PRC has both the capability and intent to eschew 
international norms, advance its brand of authoritarianism, and amass 
power and influence at the expense of the existing and emerging 
democracies in our hemisphere. This is a decisive decade and our 
actions or inactions regarding the PRC will have ramifications for 
decades to come.
    While the PRC remains our pacing challenge, other malicious actors 
erode regional security. Russia continues its extensive disinformation 
campaigns and bolsters authoritarian regimes in Cuba, Nicaragua, and 
Venezuela. Transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) spread violence 
and corruption throughout the region and beyond. These TCOs traffic 
drugs that contribute to the deaths of thousands of Americans in cities 
and towns across the country, from Alabama to Washington, from Rhode 
Island to Mississippi and everywhere in between. TCOs foment violence 
and instability that contribute to irregular migration, forcibly 
displacing hundreds of thousands of people who risk their lives to 
reach U.S. territory each year. TCO corruption creates insecurity, 
deteriorates rule of law, and leaves partner nations susceptible to the 
actions of malign State and non-State actors.
    We aren't alone in our efforts to create a stable and peaceful 
hemisphere. Integrated Deterrence includes campaigning with our 
partners and allies as force multipliers for achieving success in this 
resource-constrained reality. With our partners and allies from the 
United Kingdom, Canada, France, and the Netherlands, we recently 
adopted the Framework for Western Hemisphere Collaboration. The 
framework commits us to more frequently share information, and work 
more closely together on our aligned strategic interests.
    Our USSOUTHCOM lines of effort in the face of these challenges are 
clear: by strengthening alliances and partnerships, collectively 
countering threats, and building our team, we are working to preserve 
democracy in our shared neighborhood. While doing so, we are pioneering 
ways to outcompete even our most innovative adversaries and address 
these transnational challenges.
                   expanding challenges in the region
Strategic Competition with the People's Republic of China--A Decisive 
        Decade
    When regional leaders and experts discuss the PRC's engagement in 
the Western Hemisphere, they focus largely on trade and investment. In 
2002, PRC trade with Latin America and the Caribbean was just $18 
billion; in 2022 it ballooned to $450 billion. That number is expected 
to increase to $700 billion by 2035. Conversely, current United States 
trade within the region amounts to $700 billion, which suggests that 
the United States' comparative trade advantage is eroding.\3\ \4\
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    What concerns me as a Combatant Commander is the myriad of ways in 
which the PRC is spreading its malign influence, wielding its economic 
might, and conducting gray zone activities to expand its military and 
political access and influence in the AOR. The PRC is investing in 
critical infrastructure, including deep-water ports, cyber, and space 
facilities which can have a potential dual use for malign commercial 
and military activities. In any potential global conflict, the PRC 
could leverage strategic regional ports to restrict United States naval 
and commercial ship access. This is a strategic risk that we can't 
accept or ignore. These activities are heavily subsidized through PRC 
state-owned enterprises (SOE), allowing them to underbid on 
infrastructure projects, quickly displacing local and international 
competitors. SOEs are developing deep-water ports in 17 countries, 
particularly around strategic maritime chokepoints in this region. In 
Asia, Africa, and the Middle East, PRC SOEs abused commercial 
agreements by conducting military functions at host-country ports. 
What's to keep them from doing the same right here in this hemisphere?
    In Panama, PRC-sponsored companies are engaged in, or bidding on, 
several projects related to the Panama Canal--a global strategic 
chokepoint. These projects include port operations on both ends of the 
canal, water management, and a logistics park. Meanwhile, in Argentina, 
a PRC SOE is attempting to secure the rights to build dual-use maritime 
installations near the southern port city of Ushuaia, which would 
support sustainment and power-projection while providing proximity to 
the Strait of Magellan, Drake Passage, and Antarctica. This would be a 
potential game-changer for the PRC, dramatically improving its access 
to Antarctica.
    The PRC also sees this region as key to expanding its space domain 
awareness and improving its military space capabilities. There are at 
least 11 PRC-linked space facilities across five countries in this 
region, more than any other geographic combatant command's AOR, that 
provide Beijing with space tracking and surveillance capabilities. This 
includes a joint space-monitoring facility in Chile and a deep space 
station in Argentina that is managed by an agency subordinate to the 
People's Liberation Army (PLA).\5\
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    Our Nation's leaders have expressed concern about the insidious 
nature of the PRC-sponsored 5G technology providers for years now. In 
our region alone, five countries adopted Huawei's 5G technology, and 24 
countries have existing Chinese telecommunication infrastructure (3G/
4G), increasing their potential to transition to Chinese 5G. There are 
also 12 countries using PRC-created Safe City programs that provide 
persistent surveillance and give PRC SOE technicians access to 
government networks. These actions, among others, create a potential 
counterintelligence threat to the United States military, our civilian 
personnel, and our regional partners. The proliferation of this 
technology has also led even more partner nation military personnel to 
travel to China to receive training on cybersecurity and military 
doctrine.
    The PRC relies heavily on resources, including food sources and 
minerals from the USSOUTHCOM AOR. This region is one of the richest in 
the world in critical rare earth minerals. The PRC's efforts to extract 
South America's natural resources to support its own population of 1.9 
billion people are conducted at the expense of our partner nations and 
their citizens. These actions have the potential to destabilize the 
region and erode the fundamental conditions needed for quality private 
sector investment.
    Environmental crimes such as illegal, unreported, and unregulated 
fishing (IUUF), illegal logging, and illegal mining continue to have 
devastating impacts on the region and the PRC is the largest 
perpetrator of these biodiversity crimes. Every year, there are between 
350 and 600 Chinese Communist Party (CCP)-subsidized vessels fishing 
off the coast of South America. These vessels severely deplete fish 
stocks, disregard environmental safeguards, destabilize the economies 
of coastal states, and exacerbate security challenges at a cost of 
nearly $3 billion in lost revenue annually.\6\ When I meet with our 
partner nations, IUUF, along with transnational criminal networks and 
cyber security, is consistently among their top national security 
concerns. As a result, their militaries are increasingly being asked to 
play a leading role in combating this illegal activity.
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Russia as an Acute Threat
    The impacts of Vladimir Putin's illegal, unprovoked invasion of 
Ukraine reverberated around the world, worsening a global energy and 
food crisis. The USSOUTHCOM AOR has not been spared. Families across 
the region are struggling to put food on the table and gas in their 
cars because of the sharp rise in prices, compounding the negative 
impacts in this region from COVID-19.
    Through military engagements and gray zone operations, Russia 
colludes with authoritarian regimes in the region to undermine United 
States influence. In the past year, Russia continued its military 
engagements with both Venezuela and Nicaragua. Last year Venezuela 
hosted Sniper Frontier 2022, a shooting competition and subcomponent of 
Russia's International Army Games. Nicaragua has publicly supported the 
Russian invasion of Ukraine, voting--along with only North Korea, 
Syria, and Belarus--against a U.N. resolution condemning Russia for its 
invasion. These engagements increase Russian influence with nations who 
are destabilizing forces in the region.
    Russia uses disinformation to further its malign influence, sow 
instability and undermine democracy in the region, activities that 
promote Russian geopolitical goals and undermine United States national 
security interests. For example, Russia spreads false narratives about 
its invasion of Ukraine through its Spanish-language media arms, RT en 
Espanol, Sputnik Mundo, and its various social media sites. RT en 
Espanol's Facebook page has 18 million followers, more than its 
English-language site or even CNN's Spanish-language channels.\7\ 
Despite efforts by Facebook and Twitter to take down accounts spreading 
disinformation, Russian operators continue to generate bot accounts to 
spread falsehoods quickly. We are in a constant fight to counter and 
remove the disinformation spread by fake accounts and correct the 
misperceptions this disinformation propagates. It is in our interest to 
help develop our partner nations' knowledge and understanding of these 
tactics and false information before this malign activity permanently 
erodes this hemisphere's confidence in democracy.
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Transnational Criminal Organizations
    Although many partner nation leaders recognize the threats the PRC 
and Russia pose to democracy in the region, they see TCOs as their 
primary security challenge. The number one cause of death among 
citizens ages 15 to 49 years old in Latin America and the Caribbean is 
violence and more than 60 percent of the world's most crime-stricken 
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    USSOUTHCOM estimates that there are 200 TCOs and four terrorist 
groups operating throughout the region. TCOs such as the Sinaloa Cartel 
and Jalisco New Generation Cartel in Mexico are spreading their reach 
to the region. The National Liberation Army (ELN), Revolutionary Armed 
Forces of Colombia--People's Army (FARC-EP), Segunda Marquetalia, and 
Sendero Luminoso continue to operate along primary cocaine trafficking 
corridors. First Capital Command (PCC) operates in Brazilian urban 
streets, the Amazonian jungle, in neighboring Paraguay, Bolivia, and in 
the United States. In Haiti, gangs control roughly 60 percent of the 
country, blocking roads for much-needed food and fuel.
    TCOs are engaged in a wide variety of illicit activities, including 
drug smuggling, arms dealing, illegal logging and mining, human 
trafficking, IUUF, and manufacturing counterfeit goods. They are also 
invested in numerous legitimate enterprises, including, but not limited 
to, commercial banking, manufacturing, agriculture, consumer sales, and 
real estate. The diverse activities amount to a war chest of roughly 
$310 billion annually, 5 times the combined military budgets of every 
nation in Latin America and the Caribbean. TCOs are better funded, 
equipped, and manned than the security forces trying to fight them and 
increasingly rely on PRC-connected criminal organizations to launder 
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    Drug trafficking originating from this region contributes to the 
deaths of more than 100,000 Americans every year. Interdicting the flow 
of drugs directly saves lives by removing product from the pipeline. It 
also reduces TCO revenue. The type of contraband or destination is 
irrelevant as the money remains in the Western Hemisphere and TCOs use 
their illicit funds to exacerbate regional corruption, insecurity, and 
instability. This in turn disrupts legitimate economic opportunity, 
compromises the rule of law, allows malign State actors the opportunity 
to make inroads, and drives irregular migration. TCOs victimize 
migrants, by extorting them, forcing them into human trafficking, and 
saddling them with debt. The human toll TCOs cause is heartbreaking.
Iran
    Iran is focused on rebuilding its economic and diplomatic ties in 
the region and pursuing opportunities to circumvent United States 
sanctions. Tehran's intelligence and security activities continue to be 
a concern and over the past 2 years Iran has increasingly used 
Venezuela to assert its presence in the region.
Regional Humanitarian Crises
    Fragility. The COVID-19 pandemic severely impacted the economies of 
Latin America and the Caribbean, driving 170 million people into 
poverty.\10\ Countries in the region suffered disproportionately from 
the pandemic. While accounting for only 8 percent of the world's 
population, Latin America and the Caribbean suffered nearly 29 percent 
of the world's COVID-19 deaths. Fragility and instability drive 
irregular migration and create an environment ripe for corruption and 
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    Haiti. In recent years, Haiti has suffered an onslaught of setbacks 
including corrupt leaders and political assassinations, rampant gang 
violence, disease, and devastating natural disasters. Violence in Haiti 
is at its worst level in decades, according to the United Nations, 
characterized by gender-based violence, homicides, and kidnapping for 
ransom. Civil unrest, inter-gang fighting, and road blockages hinder 
commerce and humanitarian access. Today, Haitian citizens are 
suffering, and its government faces a myriad of challenges to include 
insecurity, limited governance capacity, and health concerns. The chaos 
caused more than 69,000 Haitians to seek refuge in the United States in 
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    Nicaragua. President Daniel Ortega's regime continues to detain and 
prosecute political opponents, even targeting clergy and shutting down 
hundreds of civil society organizations and independent media outlets.
    Since switching diplomatic allegiance from Taiwan to the PRC in 
December 2021, Nicaragua has engaged with the PRC in bilateral talks 
for a comprehensive Free Trade Agreement. In September 2022, PRC 
Foreign Minister Wang Yi met with Nicaraguan Foreign Minister Denis 
Moncada on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly, highlighting 
that the new bilateral relationship has already yielded ``early 
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    Cuba. President Miguel Diaz-Canel's government continues to repress 
all Cuban citizens critical of the regime. The government engages in 
arbitrary detention, including children, and limits access to 
information and freedom of expression, and incarcerates political 
dissidents. The Cuban Government's oppressive tactics have forced more 
than 230,000 Cubans to seek refuge in the United States in fiscal year 
2022.\13\ In September 2022, Hurricane Ian struck Cuba, devastating 
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    Venezuela. The humanitarian crisis caused by the Maduro regime in 
Venezuela remains one of the most severe in the world. President 
Nicolas Maduro's regime and security forces continue to target and deny 
access to critical services to any citizen who speaks out against them. 
His regime continues to engage in extrajudicial killings, forced 
disappearances, torture, and prosecution without due process. The 
International Criminal Court is currently investigating possible crimes 
against humanity in Venezuela.
    The Maduro regime's oppressive tactics and gross economic 
mismanagement have caused more than seven million Venezuelans to seek 
refuge elsewhere, causing instability and deepening challenges for 
those nations that have welcomed them. United States Customs and Border 
Protection statistics show that more than 187,000 Venezuelan migrants 
were encountered at the United States-Mexico border in fiscal year 
2022.\14\
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  Levers: Overcoming Threats and Challenges in the AOR
    The pervasive threats and challenges highlighted above pose 
significant risks to U.S. and regional security interests. We cannot 
accept such risks so close to home and we confront them by 
strengthening partnerships, countering threats, and building our team.
Strengthen Partnerships
    As the Secretary of Defense said, ``you can't surge trust at the 
eleventh hour; trust is something you have to work on every day.'' \15\ 
We need to continuously engage our partner nations to build and sustain 
that trust and be their preferred partner. As we campaign in strategic 
competition to enable integrated deterrence and build enduring 
advantages, our engagements, presence, and policies must be flexible, 
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    The best way to outcompete our adversaries is to help partner 
democracies deliver for their populations at the speed of relevance. We 
achieve this by improving partner nation capability, capacity, and 
resilience through security cooperation, exercises, and training 
programs while upholding democratic values to ensure malign influence 
and autocratic alternatives do not further take root in this region.
    The main priority in our USSOUTHCOM Campaign Plan is to expose and 
mitigate PRC malign activity. Ultimately, strategic competition with 
the PRC is an ideological one between democracy and authoritarianism. 
Presently, the majority of nations in the Western Hemisphere are 
democracies, and 8 of the 14 nations that still recognize Taiwan are 
located in USSOUTHCOM's AOR. Beijing is seeking to reduce that number 
and increase influence throughout the region while putting the defense 
of the United States Homeland at risk.
    Security Cooperation. Building Partner Capacity (BPC) programs are 
my main lever for engaging partners in this posture-limited theater. 
These programs allow us to be on the field and engaged, to strengthen 
our partnerships, and develop military capabilities to counter a broad 
spectrum of threats and challenges. From high-end technical training 
that keeps partner intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) 
assets in the air, to building institutional capacity that develops 
logistics and lifecycle management disciplines, to professional 
military education, we are developing trust and interpersonal linkages. 
USSOUTHCOM's BPC programs aim to make our partners resilient to the 
adversaries operating in this hemisphere.
    Our embedded Ministry of Defense Advisors and field service 
representatives within partner nation security ministries, such as 
those in Colombia, support modernization and innovation efforts in such 
areas as personnel, defense intelligence, and doctrine development to 
help our partners meet threats to their national security.
    The United States Colombia Action Plan enables Colombia to provide 
training and readiness directly to several countries, including Panama, 
Honduras, El Salvador, Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, Ecuador, and 
Paraguay in Spanish, and at a fraction of the cost of United States-
provided training. We really appreciate congressional support of this 
program.
    These security cooperation programs offer a huge return on 
investment as they build trust and enhance capabilities and security 
throughout the region--a little goes a long way here.
    Department of State Security Assistance. State security assistance 
programs increase interoperability with our partners while meeting 
their individual security requirements. Foreign Military Sales (FMS), 
Foreign Military Financing (FMF), and Excess Defense Articles (EDA) 
programs produce an exponential return in this AOR. Brazil recently 
made an FMS purchase of $15.8 million of 12 Joint Light Tactical 
Vehicles as part of the Brazilian Marine Corps modernization plan, 
strengthening its ability to counter threats and enhancing 
interoperability with United States Forces. The former United States 
Coast Guard cutters Albacore, Cochito, and Gannet were delivered to 
Uruguay on November 12, 2022. These ships greatly enhance the maritime 
security of Uruguay and demonstrate that the United States is the 
preferred partner in the region. The Colombian Army received 86 armored 
vehicles in 2022 via the EDA program, giving Colombia a more modern 
capability to counter threats facing the country.
    USSOUTHCOM executes State's International Military Training and 
Education (IMET) program that provides professional military education 
to personnel from 28 countries in the region. In 2022, USSOUTHCOM 
countries were allocated $13.9 million for the IMET program. On 
average, this allocation provides professional military education for 
approximately 800 international students in United States schools. The 
IMET program is one of USSOUTHCOM's strongest levers for countering the 
PRC and other malign actors in the region by acquainting international 
students with democratic ideals and professional military doctrine. 
Partner nation personnel who attend these schools often go on to become 
senior military leaders in their countries. The relationships built at 
these schools last a lifetime.
    Joint Exercise Program. Our Joint Exercise Program continues to 
provide an outsized return on investment not only in building 
readiness, but also in strengthening partnerships that allow us to 
counter malign influence. In 2022 we had over 11,000 participants from 
34 nations take part in our exercises, demonstrating once again that 
the United States has the convening power to bring nations together. 
These complex training events were multi-domain in nature and provided 
us year-long engagement opportunities across the AOR, to include 
engagements with key leaders.
    USSOUTHCOM's exercise program in the counter-TCO realm also brings 
together the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, 
the Department of State, and Department of Homeland Security (including 
the U.S. Coast Guard), along with partner nation and allied military 
forces to enhance readiness, interoperability, and domain awareness, 
and to increase intelligence and information sharing.
    Additionally, our exercises include training on human rights and on 
Women, Peace, and Security, which helps to enhance professionalism and 
advance democratic principles.
    USNS Comfort. The USNS Comfort hospital ship deployed to five 
countries in the region from October to December 2022--Guatemala, 
Honduras, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, and Haiti--taking part in a 
humanitarian assistance, readiness building, and goodwill mission. The 
USNS Comfort's crew included military and civilian personnel as well as 
personnel from non-governmental organizations and partner nation 
militaries. Since its inception in 2007, the Continuing Promise mission 
has treated more than 580,000 patients overall and conducted over 7,000 
surgeries. The USNS Comfort mission to the USSOUTHCOM AOR historically 
lasts approximately 159 days, but even during this year's reduced 
mission of 52 days, the Comfort managed to treat over 30,000 patients, 
conduct 350 surgeries, and positively impact 100,000 people with its 
outreach activities. This tremendous soft power asset will have lasting 
effects not just on the individuals who were treated, but also on the 
entire region.
    Operation Health Engagement Assistance Response Team (HEART). 
During Operation HEART, a team of 34 medical professionals and 17 
support personnel conducted orthopedic, ophthalmology, and dental 
surgeries in Guatemala and Honduras. In just 56 days, Operation HEART 
treated 993 patients and conducted a knowledge exchange with medical 
residents and doctors from Honduras, Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, 
and El Salvador.
    Key Leader Engagements. Since I last addressed this Committee, I 
have visited 13 countries and conducted over 90 key leader engagements 
with ministers and chiefs of defense. Increasingly, I have also met 
with heads of State and vice presidents as the appetite grows amongst 
our partners to engage at senior levels with the United States. To 
date, I have engaged eight presidents, three vice presidents, and two 
prime ministers, and I have a full calendar of engagements planned 
throughout 2023. Establishing and cultivating these relationships is 
vital and we must step up our presence in the region to maintain 
relevance. Relationships absolutely matter, and our partner democracies 
are desperate for assistance from the United States, but if we're not 
there in time, they have no choice but to take what's available, 
creating opportunities for the PRC to expand its influence. Just like 
with the COVID-19 vaccine, they wanted a United States vaccine, but 
some partner nations had to take the Chinese Sinopharm or Russian 
Sputnik vaccines at 50-60 percent effectiveness because we weren't 
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    U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. Infrastructure is one of our 
partners' critical needs, and the PRC is leveraging that need to 
achieve influence overmatch in the region. We need to step up with much 
greater responsiveness in our processes if we want to address our 
partner nation requirements and outcompete the PRC in this domain. The 
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) works with USSOUTHCOM and partner 
nations to advance security, preserve environmental sustainability and 
climate resiliency, and protect at-risk indigenous populations. USACE 
is providing technical support to the Panama Canal Authority to help 
ensure the canal operates successfully for the next 50 years. It also 
supports Ecuador to mitigate the negative effects of a substandard PRC 
construction project at the Coca Coda Dam. In January 2023, at the 
request of the embassy and the government of the Dominican Republic, 
USACE assigned a subject-matter expert embedded within the Dominican 
Republic's Agency of Mines and Minerals to assist with developing 
efforts to preserve rare earth materials.
    From a defense and security cooperation perspective, USACE's recent 
agreement with the Peruvian Navy to build out Peru's port facilities, 
and its continued construction efforts on Tolemaida Air Base in 
Colombia, facilitating the development of the largest rotary wing 
training and maintenance facilities in the region, will increase our 
partners' capacity to counter TCOs in the region.
    State Partnership Program. Through the State Partnership Program 
(SPP), the National Guard continues to develop relationships with our 
partner nations. Eighteen United States states, Puerto Rico and the 
District of Columbia have active partnerships with defense and security 
forces from 30 nations in the Caribbean, Central America, and South 
America. By providing long-term and consistent support and building 
trust and teamwork, National Guard servicemembers give us the presence 
on the field that is so critical. For example, this year, the South 
Dakota National Guard worked with its partner Suriname to renovate a 
school for 450 children and provide medical and dental care to three 
separate rural and underserved communities, impacting approximately 
2,500 civilians. This year, the Regional Security System (RSS), 
consisting of seven Eastern Caribbean nations, conducted 25 events 
across the RSS and in the continental United States.
    SPP's success is enhanced through National Guard participation in 
partner nation exercises like those in Brazil and Colombia. The 
National Guard also provided medical servicemembers from Puerto Rico, 
Louisiana, Arkansas, and South Carolina to our successful Continuing 
Promise operations through the USNS Comfort deployment.
    Humanitarian Assistance and Disaster Response (HA/DR). Latin 
America and the Caribbean are susceptible to hurricanes, earthquakes, 
droughts, and other extreme natural disasters. The United States is 
there with assistance before, during, and after disaster strikes. 
USSOUTHCOM engages our partner nations regularly, encouraging and 
assisting them to take positive steps toward disaster risk reduction, 
mitigation, preparedness, and resiliency. Several of our annual 
exercises, including TRADEWINDS and CENTAM GUARDIAN, have a HA/DR 
component to help build resiliency and readiness related to climate 
change and natural disaster response.
    A recent example of our support is our response to Haiti's widening 
political and humanitarian crises. Supporting a whole-of-government 
effort led by the U.S. Agency for International Development and the 
State Department, USSOUTHCOM delivered thousands of gallons of much-
needed fuel and 300,000 cholera treatment packets to Haiti. This 
operation relieved strain on the local healthcare system and enabled 
the U.S. Embassy to remain open to facilitate life-saving assistance.
    Humanitarian assistance activities also address basic needs of the 
population and build partner capacity to maintain a healthy population. 
Activities emphasize public health capacity building, such as improving 
medical facilities, disease surveillance systems, and providing basic 
medical equipment, education, prevention, and training. Basic 
infrastructure activities focus on building partner capacity to provide 
essential services, like potable water. Finally, we recently joined 
with 12 other countries to identify logistics processes, procedures, 
and protocols that are required to improve the military logistics 
support to HA/DR activities in the Western Hemisphere.
    Confronting Climate Change. This is one of the regions most 
impacted by climate change. Hurricanes, rising sea levels, flooding, 
and drought are causing grave harm to the region's health, food, water, 
energy, and socioeconomic development. Extreme weather events impact 
our partners' national security, displacing populations and increasing 
irregular migration already accelerated by TCOs and insecurity.
    These calamities know no borders. In 2022, Hurricane Fiona slammed 
into the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, Hurricane Ian ravaged 
western Florida and Cuba, and Hurricane Julia caused landslides and 
wiped-out crops in Central America. To help address threats from 
climate change and support humanitarian assistance, USSOUTHCOM works to 
strengthen our partners nations' ability to address more demanding 
disaster response roles, mitigate the effects from climate change, 
protect the environment, and enable the transition to clean energy 
through subject-matter expert exchanges and by incorporating energy 
security scenarios in exercises. Successfully confronting this complex 
issue requires a true integrated approach. For example, USSOUTHCOM 
partners with the Pacific Disaster Center in Hawaii to facilitate 
disaster response training and conduct National Disaster Preparedness 
Baseline Assessments with our partner nations. These assessments 
promote a multi-agency approach to disaster risk reduction and national 
disaster preparedness, in collaboration with partner nations' national 
disaster management agencies.
Countering Threats
    Countering PRC malign efforts. In alignment with the 2022 National 
Defense Strategy's integrated deterrence approach, we strive to use all 
levers through campaigning to deny the PRC the perceived benefits of 
aggression. USSOUTHCOM leverages the expertise of the Executive branch, 
to include the Departments of State and Commerce, to improve partner 
nations' knowledge of effective legal frameworks to develop reliable 
and secure telecommunication infrastructure and cyber resilience, while 
highlighting state-of-the-art substantive alternatives to counter PRC 
state-owned enterprise expansion in the region.
    By methodically identifying and synchronizing separate initiatives, 
from building cyber capability to exposing PRC malign activities, we 
can strengthen critical infrastructure to improve our collective 
ability to operate in the face of multi-domain threats posed by the 
PRC. Information sharing with our partners on the malign activities of 
the PRC in other nations and regions that have undercut sovereignty is 
critical to ensuring our partners can make informed decisions on their 
engagements with the PRC. However, information sharing alone is 
insufficient. Collectively, in a whole-of-nation integrated approach, 
we must also provide viable alternatives for partnerships and offer 
significantly more incentives through campaigning for critical 
infrastructure investment and port development in the region.
    While the PRC consistently works to expand its network of military 
space infrastructure across the AOR, we are focused on strengthening 
relationships with our allies and partners through sustained engagement 
and investment with what we currently have, including by assisting our 
partners to build capability to conduct space operations to meet their 
needs. By focusing on strengthening relations, the United States 
demonstrates what a true partner looks like, which stands in stark 
contrast to the transactional nature of PRC engagements. This strategy, 
coupled with continued exposure of the military purpose of the PRC's 
scientific or academic space sites in the region, may slow and possibly 
reverse the expansion of the PRC's space network in our neighborhood.
    Illegal, Unregulated, Unreported Fishing. IUUF is another area 
where we must leverage diverse capabilities and authorities. We have 
teamed up with the Department of State, partner nation stakeholders, 
the private sector, civil society, international organizations, and an 
interagency team of U.S. Government experts to confront this issue head 
on. The U.S. Coast Guard is conducting various IUUF missions in the 
AOR, and USSOUTHCOM has four ongoing IUUF initiatives that are 
complementary in nature.
    Enhanced Domain Awareness is a secure, unclassified, virtual 
environment where USSOUTHCOM, interagency, and foreign partners can 
leverage commercially and publicly available information and analytics. 
This allows us to collaborate on diverse security challenges including 
strategic competition and IUUF as well as issues like migration, human 
trafficking, and illegal mining.
    USSOUTHCOM has signed a memorandum of understanding with Global 
Fishing Watch and has a longstanding relationship with Florida 
International University through which we partnered to create the 
Security Research Hub--a virtual research community that brings 
together the United States, partner nations, academic institutions, 
civil society, and the private sector to foster shared understanding of 
the most pervasive security issues, to include IUUF.
    USSOUTHCOM is also exploring areas of cooperation and opportunities 
to provide technical assistance and support to the Eastern Tropical 
Pacific Marine Corridor, a voluntary regional cooperation mechanism 
created by the coastal states of Ecuador, Costa Rica, Colombia, and 
Panama.
    Finally, working with 14 partner nations and the National Maritime 
Intelligence-Integration Office, U.S. Navy South leads the way for an 
intergovernmental approach to information-sharing efforts. When fully 
implemented, they will collectively foster timely, actionable 
information sharing, multifunctional collaboration, and multinational 
trust. This collaboration will illuminate nefarious actors negatively 
impacting our partner nations' economies and populations.
    Countering Russian malign influence. USSOUTHCOM is postured to 
compete with Russia through the coordination and application of 
information-related capabilities. While Russia may seem distant, its 
presence and influence is felt in our hemisphere, actively undermining 
the security and stability of our partner nations. Our multifaceted 
approach aims to bolster partner efforts and expose malign activities, 
with the goal of blunting Russian exploitation in the information 
environment.
    Our partners are inclined to support efforts that impose costs on 
Russia. Some are willing to exchange their Soviet-era equipment for 
NATO-interoperable, United States-made equipment. However, as our 
partners agree to support efforts against Russia, the United States 
must have responsive mechanisms in place to rapidly provide replacement 
assets to maintain partner nation readiness--if not done right, we 
could lose this opportunity.
    Cyber. Cyber is an all-encompassing domain capable of affecting 
every sector of society, not just defense. USSOUTHCOM partners with 
other U.S. agencies and organizations such as the Departments of State, 
Commerce, Homeland Security, and Justice along with U.S. Cyber Command, 
our National Guard SPP teammates, and the U.S. Coast Guard, to deliver 
the right support at the right time to assist our partners with their 
cyber-related challenges.
    Through our cyberspace advise and assist efforts, including 
subject-matter expert exchanges and leveraging the expertise of our 
Joint Combatant Command Cyber Assistance Teams, we support our 
partners' efforts to advance their defensive cyber capabilities and 
develop cyber resiliency. These programs are enablers that help our 
partners tactically defend against the threats posed by Russia and its 
proxies in the cyber domain. However, with the significant increase in 
nation-State cyber attacks and hacktivist attacks in the region, our 
partner nations are struggling to protect their citizens in the cyber 
domain, and we are in a race to help them protect their cyber assets 
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    Competing in the Information Space. Additionally, our information 
operations team shapes pro-U.S., pro-democracy narratives, counters 
disinformation by promoting fact-based information, and works 
aggressively to reduce U.S. adversary influence in the information 
environment. This team highlights democratic ideals such as respecting 
human rights and protecting the rule of law. This capability is 
postured to provide accurate, timely, and valid information to support 
reasonable decisionmaking, resulting in better outcomes and ultimately 
decreasing the effectiveness of propaganda.
    Agile Processes. To outcompete our adversaries and win through 
campaigning, we need to be agile and support our partners at the speed 
of relevance. While we are committed to transparent processes, we must 
be faster and more innovative to outcompete our adversaries. Right now, 
our partner nations are quickly losing confidence in the U.S.'s ability 
to deliver capability. At a recent event when I spoke about what I call 
``Team Democracy,'' a term I use to describe integrated deterrence and 
working together to counter adversary malign activity, a head of state 
responded that there aren't very many on ``Team Democracy'' anymore, 
citing multiple examples of countries turning away from democracy 
because the U.S. overpromises and underdelivers. FMF, FMS, and Security 
Cooperation are great levers that can make huge inroads in the AOR when 
delivered at the speed of relevance for our partners. However, these 
programs are only as good as the processes by which we execute them. 
While a little goes a long way in this AOR, we need to do better to 
support and react at the speed of need, armed with the capabilities our 
partners can implement quickly and sustain for the long term. When we 
don't support our partners at the speed of need, our competitors 
willingly fill the gap.
    To help improve processes, the Office of the Under Secretary of 
Defense for Policy has established two working groups to break down 
barriers to our success. The Campaigning in the Western Hemisphere 
Group brings together entities within the Department of Defense that 
play a role in building partner capacity, and the Defense Opportunities 
Group convenes interagency partners that have a stake in a stable and 
secure Western Hemisphere. We aspire to quickly gain efficiencies 
across the U.S. Government so we may apply all levers of national power 
in this vital strategic competition.
    Countering TCOs. Our Joint Interagency Task Force-South (JIATF-S) 
conducts the statutorily directed mission to detect and monitor illicit 
drugs transiting toward the United States in the maritime and air 
domains, delivering a high return on modest investments. In fiscal year 
2022, JIATF-South facilitated the disruption of 371 illegal smuggling 
events, including a total of almost 300 metric tons of cocaine and over 
140,000 pounds of marijuana, with a combined wholesale value of $7.5 
billion and saving an estimated 2,976 American lives. In addition to 
saving U.S. lives and reducing TCO revenue, JIATF-South-facilitated 
drug trafficking disruptions produce evidence in the form of 
contraband, detainees, and other information. Our interagency and 
international law enforcement partners use this evidence, to help 
affect judicial end states that degrade and dismantle TCOs.
    I want to highlight our international partners' participation in 
these operations, as they are key to overall mission success. Our 
international partners participated in 76 percent of the JIATF-South-
facilitated disruptions (up from 62 percent last year) and were 
responsible for removing 475,000 kilograms of transit zone cocaine 
headed toward the United States. This is a testament to their 
commitment to support this regional effort and build their capability 
and capacity.
    United States-led, multinational counternarcotics operations 
ultimately result in our international partners taking the lead on 
their own operations, as Colombia does via their Operation Orion. 
Colombia executed two iterations of Orion in 2022, leading a coalition 
of 41 countries, resulting in the disruption of more than 180,000 
kilograms of cocaine and seizing dozens of conveyances. This is an 
excellent example of integrated deterrence return on investment--gained 
by combining willing and able international partners with a committed 
U.S. presence in the Western Hemisphere. Each of these operations was 
only successful because of the United States investment to train and 
equip our Colombian military and security partners.
    Notwithstanding our significant achievements over the decades in 
this mission space, there is still more to do. As U.S. resources 
against this threat decline, we will continue to innovate--both in 
strategy, like re-examining current authorities, and unconventional 
resourcing, like contract assets, commercial data, and artificial 
intelligence and machine learning.
    Combating Money Laundering. Systemic political corruption and lack 
of strong anti-money laundering policies make the region a permissive 
environment for illicit financial activity. USSOUTHCOM continues to 
identify TCO financial support networks, providing direct analytic 
support to U.S. Treasury Department and other interagency partners that 
facilitate sanctions, arrests, and prosecutions against TCOs. Recently, 
USSOUTHCOM supported Treasury's designation of Ecuadorian national 
Wilmer Emilio Sanchez Farfan, one of the most significant drug 
traffickers in the world and a major cocaine supplier to the Sinaloa 
cartel.\19\ While continued disruptions of illicit drug movements 
toward the United States remain critical, to truly disrupt these 
billion-dollar conglomerates, we must also support interagency efforts 
to follow the money.
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    Coast Guard Support. The U.S. Coast Guard is one of USSOUTHCOM's 
strongest partners, with its National Security Cutters and Fast 
Response Cutters providing the bulk of our counterdrug forces. U.S. 
Coast Guard assets enhance operations with unique capabilities and 
authorities which, when used in conjunction with the U.S. Navy and 
partner nation platforms, maximize the effectiveness of a variety of 
missions. The Coast Guard is executing its largest fleet 
recapitalization since World War II. These recapitalization efforts 
will provide capabilities that support three USSOUTHCOM strategic 
initiatives: enhancing Theater Security Cooperation, countering IUUF, 
and combating TCOs. Additionally, the Coast Guard provides valuable 
humanitarian mission support across the region, saving lives and 
delivering much-needed aid when natural disasters suddenly strike the 
region.
  Building our Team--People First
    Housing. Our servicemembers and families are our strength and 
foundation. While having our headquarters and two subordinate commands 
in South Florida offers a great synergy with our AOR, our team faces 
extraordinary pressures with the expensive, competitive, and volatile 
housing market. In September 2022, Secretary Austin announced immediate 
and long-term actions to help strengthen the economic security and 
stability of servicemembers and their families. We benefited with 
automatic increases in the Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) for the 
Miami-Dade and Broward County areas that have carried forward in the 
calendar year 2023 BAH rates. We are seeking similar relief for the Key 
West area. We are also continuing our work with the Department of the 
Army and the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) on a housing 
solution to address servicemember concerns about cost and availability 
of housing in the Miami area.
    JIATF-South Resiliency. JIATF-South is currently operating out of 
70-year-old facilities that are severely degraded. We received full 
fiscal year 2023 planning and design funding to complete the design for 
a new command and control facility. We appreciate this continued 
support as we look to finalize the design and request the military 
construction funding to construct a resilient facility for this 
critical mission for the Nation.
    Women, Peace and Security (WPS). At USSOUTHCOM, we deliberately 
integrate gender perspectives throughout all ranks into our operations, 
activities, and investments, exemplifying a truly diverse joint force 
and encouraging our partner nations to do the same. Our main objective 
is to maximize the talents of the force through recruitment, retention, 
training, and advancement. We also highly encourage partner nation 
leaders to increase their numbers of women who participate in IMET and 
other special programs. We are seeing results. In August 2022, the 
Florida National Guard and Guyana's Defense Force hosted the first 
Caribbean Regional WPS conference with leadership from 12 partner 
nations--including Guyana's First Lady Arya Ali and the AOR's first 
female Chief of Defense, Jamaica's Staff Rear Admiral Antonette Wemyss-
Gorman, advocating for gender inclusivity and advancing regional 
influence in ways that our adversaries cannot. In September 2022, 
Colombia appointed its first female Senior Enlisted Leader of the 
Colombian Military Services, Command Sergeant Major Consuelo Diaz 
Alvarez, and in October 2022, for the first time in its history, the 
Colombian Navy promoted two female Navy Captains, Beatriz Helena Garcia 
Restrepo and Carolina Gomez de Castillo, to the rank of Rear Admiral. 
Although much work remains, these are just a few of the examples that 
demonstrate USSOUTHCOM and its partners' commitment to provide 
opportunities for women to become leaders in the defense and security 
sectors.
    Total Force. The United States military is the most powerful in the 
world, and USSOUTHCOM leverages all available personnel, making us 
flexible and agile to counter any challenges we may face. Of the 
servicemembers at USSOUTHCOM, up to 20 percent at any given time are 
Guard or Reserve members conducting operations in more than 20 
locations throughout the AOR.
    One such total force mission has been ongoing for a decade. Since 
2003, Air National Guard Airmen have supported JIATF-South's detection 
and monitoring mission through the Host Nation Rider Program. This 
program provides technical language support and translation/
interpretation that has been instrumental in achieving successful 
detection and monitoring of air operations within the AOR. In fiscal 
year 2022, this program was involved in the seizure of over 49,000 
kilograms of cocaine, 24,000 pounds of marijuana, and the apprehension 
of 154 detainees.
    The Reserve component is a force multiplier used in a cyclic manner 
to provide predictability, operational capability, and as a strategic 
force, providing depth to support a full spectrum of conflicts. Guard 
and Reserve support is critical to USSOUTHCOM's mission continuity and 
success.
  What Resources Does USSOUTHCOM Need?
    In this region, a small investment--whether in time, physical 
resources, funding, or collaboration--goes a long way. We don't have to 
outspend the PRC to outcompete, but we must be present on the field and 
deliver at the speed of relevance. This requires having a timely 
budget--continuing resolutions are disruptive to United States and 
partner nation efforts to defend against threats. If we don't, China 
and Russia will fill the void.
    Security Cooperation is our main tool for building the capability 
of our very willing partners. These partners take our small investments 
and immediately employ them against the threats and challenges that 
affect our entire hemisphere. Our partner nations are a force 
multiplier in a posture-limited theater. The support Congress provided 
for the fiscal year 2023 budget toward making our partners more capable 
makes us all stronger. We look forward to putting those funds to good 
use to support both our fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024 programs 
for security cooperation in our region.
    Security Assistance goes hand-in-hand with security cooperation. 
The security assistance we provide to countries like Colombia, Ecuador, 
and Panama is a game-changer for our partners who are working every day 
to counter illicit trafficking, address irregular migration, and secure 
our region. However, in contrast, Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador 
are currently not eligible for FMF. We will work with the Department of 
State to consider tailored solutions to advance regional policy goals.
    Domain Awareness is key to countering PRC, Russia, and TCO malign 
activities that threaten hemispheric security, as well as assisting our 
partners during disaster relief. Air, maritime, land, space, and cyber 
domain awareness projects in the region fill debilitating coverage gaps 
and enable our partners to counter drug smuggling, IUUF, money 
laundering, human smuggling, weapons trafficking, and illegal trade in 
natural resources. These projects reveal shared problems, illuminate 
opportunities, foster enhanced collaboration, and enable us to export 
security regionally. The ability to sense, make sense, and share data 
with our partners is critical. Maintaining a comprehensive threat 
picture with our allies and partners through our Enhanced Domain 
Awareness platform enables us to react quickly to threats and to 
collaborate in real time as we engage in combined operations and 
activities. Critical to building this shared picture is commercial 
imagery, open-source intelligence, and off-the-shelf bulk data 
analytics that allow us to harness this data in the public and 
commercial space to address critical gaps.
    Aerial ISR is also paramount to maintaining domain awareness. To 
stay ahead of the growing pernicious threats that State and non-State 
actors pose, we require long-range, long-dwell, next-generation aerial 
ISR, such as solar-powered aircraft with a greater range and time over 
target. Aerial ISR aircraft have been critical to our ability to detect 
and deliver actionable information to other U.S. agencies and partner 
nations that enable their counternarcotics and counter-TCO operations. 
In fiscal year 2022, information provided by airborne ISR assets 
operating overland accounted for the seizure of 322 metric tons of 
cocaine and deprived TCOs of over $9 billion in profits. To further 
enhance our ability to enable counternarcotics and counter-TCO 
operations, we are pursuing ISR technologies with a greater ability to 
detect active drug production laboratories. When deployed, this 
capability will allow us to collect over a four times larger area with 
twice the sensor resolution of any comparable platform in the U.S. 
Government's inventory.
    The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) also remains a 
key intelligence provider in meeting U.S. Southern Command's 
priorities. Warning decisionmakers of the breadth and depth of 
challenges in the Western Hemisphere requires geospatial analysis at 
speed and scale. We appreciate Congress's continued support for NGA's 
budget request and for their personnel supporting the Combatant 
Commands.and scale. We appreciate Congress's continued support for 
NGA's budget request and for their personnel supporting the Combatant 
Commands.
    Innovation, Science, and Technology. Today we face a more level 
playing field in technology, and we need to rapidly adjust how fast we 
get technology to the warfighter to maintain dominance and confound the 
adversary. The USSOUTHCOM AOR provides a permissive environment that 
has a high tolerance for technology experimentation, willing partners, 
and diverse climates and geography, all close to the U.S. Homeland. 
This affords us great opportunities to conduct innovative activities 
with our partners that help gain and maintain a strategic advantage 
over the PRC, Russia, and other malign actors.
    We take every opportunity to capitalize on these benefits. We are 
developing green energy capabilities, working on the first unmanned 
persistent solar-powered aircraft with a 300-pound payload, creating 
small-scale autonomous low-profile vessels, and developing laser 
communications systems with a low probability of detection and faster 
speeds than conventional solutions on the market.
    A good example of this innovation is our collaboration with the 
Office of Naval Research, which has designed an experimentation series 
known as SCOUT. SCOUT's inaugural cycle automates antiquated processes 
and places capabilities into warfighters' hands faster. The SCOUT team, 
comprised of warfighters, engineers, academia, and industry partners, 
executes small-scale, discovery-focused events that provide multiple 
opportunities to test and measure technologies. This year we will 
conduct our first main event in JIATF-South to integrate prototype 
solutions focused on enhancing counternarcotics operations.
    Information Related Capabilities. To compete in the information 
environment, USSOUTHCOM needs an adequate force structure with the 
requisite skills to counter the overwhelming threat from malign State 
actors in the information domain. Our adversaries are dedicating 
significant effort and resources with unrestrictive policies to 
undermine democracy in this region. We must do better to keep pace with 
them and outcompete them.
    NAVSCIATTS. While considering modern warfare, we tend to focus on 
five domains: the high seas, inland regions, air, space, and cyber. 
However, littorals and rivers are the lifeblood of maritime commerce, 
large population centers, and bustling seaports for most of the 31 LAC 
countries. Ensuring security in these vital areas is essential to good 
governance, economic growth, and long-term prosperity. Malign State and 
non-State actors know the significance of littorals and rivers and 
routinely use them to transport bulk currency and illegal drugs, 
smuggle people and a vast array of illicit commodities, and enable 
illegal mining and logging activities that imperil the environment.
    We appreciate the support Congress offered last year for the Naval 
Small Craft Instruction and Technical Training School (NAVSCIATTS) in 
Stennis, Mississippi. The maritime training and education programs at 
NAVSCIATTS generate outsized return on investment, providing invaluable 
opportunities to military and law enforcement personnel from the United 
States and our allies and partners, most of whom operate smaller craft. 
Expertise shared at NAVSCIATTS generates reciprocal trust, shared 
knowledge and understanding, collaboration, and multifaceted technical 
skills that enable integrated deterrence against the PRC and other 
malign actors. They also reduce environmental damage and protect 
natural resources.
    Ambassadors. We truly appreciate Congress's efforts to confirm 
additional Ambassadors in the Western Hemisphere last year. Having a 
confirmed Ambassador in country is critical to maintaining strong 
relationships and, conversely, not having one in place can have a 
detrimental effect and opens the door to our adversaries in the region. 
We look forward to Congress's continued support in the effort to 
strengthen diplomatic ties in our neighborhood.
  Conclusion
    The defense of the United States Homeland is directly linked to the 
resilience, stability, and security of the Latin America and Caribbean 
region. Proximity places us on the frontline of strategic competition, 
as we share transboundary challenges and global threats. This requires 
the USSOUTHCOM team to be a trusted partner and pursue efforts that 
meet our partners where they are, maximizing our efforts where their 
priorities align with our own national interests. Meeting these 
challenges requires campaigning through an integrated approach to 
utilize all available levers across the DOD, U.S. interagency, Allies 
and Partner Nations to establish the desired conditions of security, 
peace, and prosperity throughout our neighborhood.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Richardson.
    General VanHerck, as you know, Congress is considering 
disposing of the S-band or auctioning parts of it to the 
commercial sector. I want to personally commend Senator Rounds 
and Senator King for the very effective work they have done in 
making sure the military and the Department of Defense has an 
opportunity to look at this.
    But this is a spectrum in which your early warning system 
is there, your missile defense system, the Aegis system, which 
you use for defense. Could you tell the Committee what the 
impact of curtailing, selling, or compromising this spectrum 
would have on your operations?
    General VanHerck. Chairman, absolutely. I am concerned 
about the potential national security impacts of auctioning or 
selling off that spectrum. It is my assessment there will be 
impacts, as you pointed out, to our domain awareness 
capabilities. What I think is good is a study that we 
understand the national security impacts before we make any 
decisions on auctioning or selling off any spectrum.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, sir. I understand there is a 
study ongoing with the support of the Secretary of Defense and 
the Secretary of Commerce. Are you participating in that?
    General VanHerck. I have not been asked to participate 
directly in that. I would welcome the opportunity to discuss 
impacts to homeland defense.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, sir.
    General Richardson, you have indicated the growing 
competition with China and Russia in South America and Central 
America. China is using economic leverage at ports and other 
infrastructure. They are trying to introduce 5G 
telecommunications. They have set up a network of space 
tracking stations which are probably doing more than space 
tracking. Russia is acting through proxies like Venezuela, 
Nicaragua, and Cuba, and as you pointed out and which I think 
comes as an interesting surprise to many of us, institutional 
investors very active with the media, with Sputnik Mundo and RT 
en Espanol.
    Do you have the resources to counter these efforts?
    General Richardson. Thank you, Senator. I could use 
additional resources in order to counter. We can do a lot more 
in this region and a little goes a long way with our partners. 
This region is fraught with critical infrastructure by the PRC 
that has been invested in. As you aid, Senator, the deepwater 
ports, space, telecommunications, Safe City/Smart City, which 
is really surveillance of the populations, and things like 
that.
    So with the disinformation, I mean, we play by the rules. 
We have rules to follow. We have the rule of law that we follow 
in the United States, and our adversaries do not follow any 
laws, and they do not play by the rules. So the answer is yes, 
Senator.
    Chairman Reed. One of the areas that I think you are 
probably deficient in is ISR, and that requires additional 
equipment and also might be an opportunity to test autonomous 
vehicles. Is that something that you are suggesting to the 
leadership?
    General Richardson. Absolutely. This region and in the 
SOUTHCOM AOR, where our adversaries might not be watching so 
closely, is to be able to test in a real-world mission the 
innovation, the technology, and things like that. We work with 
our partners. They are very much involved with wanting to 
advance their ability to see and have domain awareness, just 
like us at SOUTHCOM.
    If we can see more and spot this malign activity, expose 
the malign activity, we are able to better counteract the 
adversaries and that malign activity in the region.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    General VanHerck, the threats to the Homeland have changed 
dramatically and suddenly. The models we used, the systems we 
used in the cold war, and in the interim between the cold war 
and the present situation, do not seem to be applicable, with 
hypersonics, with long-range precision cruise missiles, with a 
host of different threats to the United States. You are looking 
at sort of the assumptions and the plans that we have had and 
tried to reconstruct for this new threat, new world.
    How are we doing in terms of getting a new plan in place 
and also new weapon systems? You commented that one of our 
problems is speed, and that is a function of not only getting 
new equipment in place but putting aside legacy equipment. Can 
you just comment, General, on those points?
    General VanHerck. Chairman, yes. So after 2 years I got 
policy on what to defend. I cannot go into that in this forum. 
But the task that came back to me was to develop a plan on that 
defense-critical infrastructure. It is inside the Department of 
Defense critical infrastructure. I have provided that back to 
the Department on what I recommend.
    Where we are now is further assessment on my 
recommendations. I provided a list of options from the status 
quo to also including future types of systems. I think the 
future of homeland defense is vastly different than what we see 
today. It is likely including autonomous platforms, airborne 
and maritime platforms, unmanned platforms with domain 
awareness sensors, and effectors that are kinetic and non-
kinetic.
    We also need to take those over-the-horizon radar 
capabilities that I discussed and take that data and 
information and fuse it into an integrated picture, a globally 
integrated picture that allows us to see, globally, threats 
before they become threats here in the Homeland, and tie that 
to an integrated air and missile defense system and also into 
effectors, which are non-kinetic and also kinetic.
    I see the future likely being much less kinetic. There will 
be some areas that we should defend kinetically that could 
bring us to our knees, but also non-kinetic such as deception, 
denial, and the use of the electromagnetic spectrum.
    Finally, that policy needs to expand beyond defense. Those 
discussions are ongoing within the Department and the 
interagency and the Security Council, and I look forward to 
hearing back on that.
    What I would just point out--sorry my time is up--but much 
of the critical infrastructure that I defend, and to ensure 
that we power project from the Homeland, is not solely held 
inside the Department or even Federal entities. It relies on 
commercial entities, states, municipalities, and we need to 
ensure that is part of the discussion.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, sir.
    Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First of all I have a unanimous consent request. I 
mentioned in my opening statement that Senator Rubio and I sent 
a letter to the Secretary of Defense and received a very 
dismissive, non-answer from Under Secretary Colin Kahl. I would 
like to ask unanimous consent to insert those two letters into 
the record at this point.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection, so ordered.
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    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much.
    Now General VanHerck, with regard to these letters, I have 
received quite a bit of information from talking to you about 
this balloon incident, and you mentioned it in your statement, 
so let me just go through some quick questions so we can 
understand who knew what about the Chinese balloon.
    You first learned about this on January 28 of this year. Is 
that correct?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I learned about it on January 
27th. We first detected it by radar, my sensors, on January 
28th, in the vicinity of St. Matthew Island, Alaska.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and that is United States territory, 
right?
    General VanHerck. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. You notified your chain of command on that 
day, January 28, right?
    General VanHerck. I had a conversation on the evening of 
the 27th with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff about 
my plan to intercept and identify and make an assessment, which 
we did on the 28th of January.
    Senator Wicker. You sent that notification to Secretary of 
Defense Austin, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General 
Milley, via classified email. Correct?
    General VanHerck. I sent it to the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff and to Secretary Austin's military assistant. I 
am assuming that the military assistant passed it to the 
Secretary.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and you still are not certain at what 
point President Biden or Secretary Austin were made aware of 
the balloon. Is that right?
    General VanHerck. I do not know when the President was made 
aware.
    Senator Wicker. Fine, and when you confirmed the balloon's 
existence on January 28, you tasked NORTHCOM, your command, 
with preparing options to counter the balloon. That is correct 
also?
    General VanHerck. I tasked my NORAD team to develop 
options, and Senator, what I would point out is I have options 
every single day to defend our Homeland. In this case, the 
balloon did not meet the requirement or the authority for me to 
engage it because it was not demonstrating hostile intent or 
committing a hostile act. Hostile intent would be maneuvering 
to an offensive advantage on a platform, an airplane, or 
shooting missiles or weapons would be a hostile act.
    Senator Wicker. You prepared options, you asked NORAD to 
prepare options in that instance?
    General VanHerck. I directed my team to be ready with 
options, just as we are every day. That is correct.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and had the Secretary of Defense 
requested options for shooting down the balloon on January 28, 
while the balloon was still over Alaska, you would have been 
prepared to provide him those options. Is that correct?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am prepared every single 
second of every day to defend our Homeland. That is correct.
    Senator Wicker. Ultimately you did not get a chance to 
provide those options to the Secretary until February 1st. Is 
that correct?
    General VanHerck. On February 1st at 0700 I was in DC, and 
that was the first time we had a discussion.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. So there is January 28, 29, 30, 31, 
February 1st. So on the fifth day--it is apparent you took the 
right steps, but it is also clear that you received no 
direction from the President of the United States or the 
Secretary of Defense until the fifth day of this crisis, by 
which point the balloon had traversed Alaska and Canada and 
then reentered the United States.
    So I would publicly call on the Secretary of Defense to 
answer the questions which the Vice Chairman of the 
Intelligence Committee and I have asked him.
    You have already talked about kinetic and non-kinetic 
dangers in case we are in a major war in China. Do we have the 
capabilities you need to defend our Homeland from a kinetic or 
non-kinetic attack by Russia and China?
    General VanHerck. Senator, what I would like to do is talk 
about that in a closed session in detail. I have concerns, as I 
have articulated for 3 years, about my ability to provide 
threat warning and attack assessments with the threats to our 
Homeland. Why that is crucial is threat warning and attack 
assessment are crucial for continuity of government and our 
nuclear force posture. That increases the risk of escalation 
and strategic deterrence failure. Those are significant 
challenges for me.
    I also have concerns about the time it would take me to set 
the theater in the AOR [area of responsibility] to meet 
potential threat timelines from oversea threats.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and quickly--we are being a little 
lax on the time today--if the border control agents that we 
have now, and ICE personnel, employees of the U.S. Government, 
were allowed simply to do their statutory jobs along the Texas-
Mexico border, would we be in a much better situation now, and 
are they being restrained from fully enforcing the law as they 
have in the past?
    General VanHerck. I would have to defer to Customs and 
Border Protection and Border Patrol whether they are being 
restrained or not. I do think that the best solution here is to 
fully resource Homeland Security and their entities to conduct 
their law enforcement mission for the laws of our Nation. I do 
not see this as an enduring mission, long-term. We are happy to 
supported, as directed, to each and every day.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you both, General VanHerck and 
General Richardson, for being here this morning and for your 
service to the country.
    I would like to start with asking both of you about drug 
trafficking. General Richardson, I am very concerned, as I know 
you are, about drugs flowing into the United States through 
Latin America. In 2022, illegal drugs killed over 100,000 
Americans, so this is a significant threat to the country, and 
fentanyl and the access to fentanyl has made it much worse. 
While I recognize that some of those precursor chemicals are 
not coming from Latin America, too many of the drugs are.
    General VanHerck, I understood that we are also seeing an 
increase in drug trafficking coming across the northern border. 
Is that something that you have seen?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I understand there is a slight 
increase, along with migration, coming across the north border 
as well, but ultimately I defer to Border Patrol and Customs 
and Border Protection.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, that is really the question I wanted 
to ask both of you is how your commands are coordinating with 
other U.S. interagency partners, and have you seen any 
particular initiatives that have been effective? General 
Richardson, I will start with you.
    General Richardson. Well, thank you, Senator, and to 
comment on the ability to be able to see and with domain 
awareness, as the urgency is at an all-time high and the drug 
flow is at an all-time high, my ability to see and my allocated 
resources is at an all-time low. The P-8s that I used to have 
provided the long dwell, being able to see the capabilities 
that I have for vessels, for maritime flow of counternarcotics 
mission is also degraded because of the migration and the 
assets being needed for that.
    But in terms of the capabilities that I have within my own 
headquarters and Joint Interagency Task Force South as well, I 
have a whole host of interagency and law enforcement. We work 
together to provide that synergy and sharing of information, so 
it is quick and immediate. Then also our partner nations that 
are inside of JIATF South as well, because our partner nations 
have been able to participate in 76 percent of the 
interdictions and disruptions of the counternarcotics flowing 
to the United States.
    Senator Shaheen. So if you were going to get all of the 
resources that you need, do you have any estimate of what that 
would mean, in terms of equipment, assets, dollars?
    General Richardson. I would say a little goes a long way, 
as I have said before, and the ability to be able to see. I 
have about 2 percent of the DOD ISR, which gets after about 17 
percent of my requirement. I do not need 100 percent, but I 
need a little bit more than the 2 percent, I would say, 
Senator.
    Senator Shaheen. We had a hearing in the Foreign Relations 
Committee yesterday with Secretary Blinken, and one of the 
issues that was raised was the potential to designate drug 
cartels in Latin America as foreign terrorist organizations 
rather than just TCOs. Do you have any view about what that 
might enable you to do differently? Would that provide any 
other authorities to address drug interdiction?
    General Richardson. I think the more that we can do to get 
after this problem with the transnational criminal 
organizations, the better. I have 42 of the 40 most violent 
cities in the world. The TCOs create that instability and that 
insecurity within our partner nations, and that is what they 
are dealing with every single day. That is at the top of their 
lists.
    I also am very concerned about the PRC and the long-term 
strategic competition that we have with the PRC, but what our 
partner nations are facing every single day are the 
transnational criminal organizations and how much more powerful 
they are getting, the ability to do the money laundering around 
the globe, we have really got to get after that.
    Senator Shaheen. So I interpret that answer is a yes, it 
might be helpful, that designation.
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Shaheen. I am going to switch topics because I am 
almost out of time. General VanHerck, what do you think is the 
most significant threat to our security in the Arctic Region?
    General VanHerck. I think the most significant threat is 
the growing Russia influence, the illegal influence, and also 
the Chinese influence right on the back of that, as we develop 
capabilities. I used the analogy last year, you have got to be 
on the field to play the game, in a football analogy, and we 
are in the locker room, still developing a game plan. We need 
to develop additional capabilities.
    I am encouraged that the Department and the services have a 
strategy. We just have not funded those strategies.
    Senator Shaheen. If we entered the Law of the Sea Treaty, 
would that give us any additional ability to address the 
challenge there?
    General VanHerck. I think it gives us more credibility to 
sit at the table and have that discussion, and I would 
absolutely support that.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
General VanHerck, for your many, many years of service to this 
country. It is deeply respected and also appreciated.
    On your unfunded priorities list you included several 
requests for programs to strengthen domain awareness, allowing 
us to better detect and also to track potential threats. Can 
you describe in detail some of the capabilities you have 
requested and why they are so vital for your needs?
    General VanHerck. Thanks, Senator. Absolutely. Over-the-
horizon radar capability acceleration would procure a test 
asset--it is $55 million--to go faster to give us the 
capability rather than fielding capabilities in 8 to 10 years. 
Maybe we could shorten that to 4 to 5 years to enable me to get 
after the hypersonics that I described earlier, the cruise 
missiles, etc. By the way, I need Canada to do the same thing. 
A fielding of a capability in a decade from now is not where we 
need to be. So those are some of the dollars there. There is 
$55 million.
    There is $211 million in the nine long-range mobile radars 
that would help me plug the gaps when we have radar failures or 
to get after critical defense infrastructure if tasked to do 
that. As we move around the country I can move those radars to 
give me additional domain awareness.
    That is a couple of examples.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you. I know that NORTHCOM is 
required to track all kinds of threats to the Homeland, from 
the Chinese spy balloons to hypersonics that you mentioned. Do 
you have tools you need right now to be able to defend against 
them, not just to track them but to defend?
    General VanHerck. Yes, so for the high-altitude balloon I 
think we are in a good place for that. For hypersonics and 
cruise missiles, hypersonics specifically, the U.S. base forces 
proliferated low-earth orbit capability in satellite 
constellation will get us there, along with the HBTSS, the MDA 
is working on. But we cannot wait decades to field these 
things. So any way that we can accelerate those capabilities.
    Let me give you an example. We are stuck in an industrial 
age process for acquiring and we field things in serial 
processes. In today's digital and information environment we 
can virtually test, we can virtually and do things in parallel. 
These are things we should do differently to field capabilities 
faster.
    I would also ask for your help here in Congress. When we go 
faster, we may have some failures. Let us not take a 2-year 
investigation of those failures. Let us jump back on the horse 
and ride and move forward. We have to be as transparent in the 
Department with Congress as possible and make sure that you are 
part of the discussion.
    Senator Fischer. We always learn from failures too. In 
fact, in many cases we learn more.
    General Richardson, you made the comment that you have 2 
percent of the ISR right now in SOUTHCOM. How does that lack of 
ISR limit your options as a commander?
    General Richardson. So it does limit. I have got a very 
large AOR when you look at Central America, South America, the 
Caribbean as well, and all the counternarcotics or the 
narcotics flow out of the region and the ability to see malign 
activity and be able to expose it. That is really what we need 
the ISR and the domain awareness to provide.
    Senator Fischer. You do not necessarily need the very high-
tech 5-Gen ISR at this point in time for your AOR, do you?
    General Richardson. I need a little bit of that, but some 
of the lower capable platforms work very well in this region, 
and then the long-dwell duration works well.
    Senator Fischer. So you would encourage us to look at 
considering keeping those other platforms?
    General Richardson. Well, as we talked about, Senator, it 
is always trying to turn over and get the next wave of 
technology, to be able to have that while keeping some legacy 
going. But certainly we have some low-end type things that we 
could utilize in the SOUTHCOM AOR.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you. General VanHerck, have 
you seen any advances or movements from China or Russia in the 
Arctic lately?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely, Senator. Russia has 
modernized their fleet of icebreakers. They have modernized 
their strategic defenses along there, their submarine forces. 
China is sailing into the Arctic under the guise of research 
vessels, and we know they are doing military options, surveying 
the seabed. You have seen that recently as Canada released 
their recovery of a Chinese buoy. Those are all things that are 
ongoing in the Arctic right now.
    Senator Fischer. General Richardson, do you see China 
presently working even harder to build access and influence in 
Latin America?
    General Richardson. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Kaine, please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to our 
witnesses for your service.
    General Richardson, I would like to start with you on sort 
of this resource shortage issue that you have testified to and 
other colleagues have asked you about. One of the bits of 
testimony that I recall pretty vividly from last year was when 
you were talking about SOUTHCOM's cyber capacity. You have got 
partners in the region that have cyber threats just like we do, 
and I think you testified that the cyber capacity you have in 
SOUTHCOM is just what is provided through your State 
partnerships with State Guard units. Is that correct?
    General Richardson. Yes. I have a small capability within 
my headquarters, but we do rely a lot on the National Guard 
State Partnership Program as well and their cyber teams.
    Senator Kaine. I think those are really good programs but I 
was shocked to hear that you did not have a more robust in-
house capacity in addition to the partnerships with our cyber 
teams from the National Guard.
    One of the potent things that the United States can do is 
joint exercises with other nations' militaries, and this is 
something that we do and that China, for example, is not yet 
doing in the Americas. Is it my understand that a common 
exercise that you have been doing with Southern Cone nations 
you are not able to do this year?
    General Richardson. Right, and we have that on my unfunded 
priority list. We really need to get down to the Southern Cone. 
That area, tyranny of distance, Chile, Argentina, Paraguay, 
Uruguay, all want to continue to do exercises. So I want to be 
able to put that Southern Star Exercise back into play. Our 
exercises bring together like over 20 partner nations, and that 
is absolutely what the PRC is not able to do is to convene all 
these countries to come together and work through exercises.
    Senator Kaine. This Southern Star Exercise has been common 
in the past but you are not resourced currently to be able to 
do that.
    General Richardson. Correct, and I have put that forward to 
put that exercise back on the plate so we are able to do that.
    Senator Kaine. Let me ask you about Colombia. Colombia has 
been a very strong military partner of the United States in 
recent years. It has been a success story. Colombia 
participates in global peacekeeping exercises. I have seen 
Colombian troops in the multinational force of observers in the 
Sinai, and they do a lot of good work together with the United 
States. I think there were some concerns after the Colombian 
elections last year about whether that would continue.
    Describe for us the mil-to-mil cooperation with Colombia 
currently.
    General Richardson. Our relationship with Colombia is very, 
very strong and continues to be very strong. We have not 
canceled anything. All the exercises, all the military-to-
military cooperations is absolutely continuing, and that 
relationship could not be any more stronger than it is now.
    Senator Kaine. Have you met personally with President Petro 
of Colombia?
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator. Twice.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you.
    General VanHerck, you had some questions about the Chinese 
balloon incident. I want to ask you questions about the 
following week, when your mission was involved in taking down 
some other unidentified or kind of not completely described 
aerial assets. They were generally described as commercial or 
benign, but they were in civilian airspace, so they were not 
completely, even if they were not hostile, they were not 
completely benign if they are in commercial airspace where they 
could pose challenges to civil aviation.
    So talk a little bit about how things get into commercial 
airspace without us being aware of them, and are there rules of 
strategies we need to put in place to be more careful about 
even benign assets in commercial airspace.
    General VanHerck. Yes, ultimately the airspace is the 
Federal Aviation Administration. They do have policy and 
regulation in place for objects that fly within the airspace 
structure. If you are flying objects--and I believe the number 
is if it weighs more than four pounds it is required to have an 
identification device. In the case of the three unidentified 
objects you are talking about, the FAA was not tracking, was 
not aware of those objects, and when we assessed them they were 
assessed to be of a size and potentially a safety threat to 
aviation hazards. So we did not know exactly what they were.
    I have talked to the acting FAA administrator about being 
more aggressive of messaging the requirements and also putting 
out and enforcing those requirements as well. Those are not 
mine to do, but I will identify and respond to anything that is 
in our airspace the we need to potentially assess as a 
potential threat.
    Senator Kaine. General VanHerck, you indicated that the FAA 
was not tracking them. Did that mean that these devices did not 
have the identifier that they are supposed to have if they are 
in that band?
    General VanHerck. I cannot confirm whether they had it or 
not. We did not recover them, due to the locations that they 
were. But my assessment would be it was likely they did not 
have a device if the FAA was not tracking them.
    Senator Kaine. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Welcome, General VanHerck, General 
Richardson. Thank you for coming back and for your service.
    General VanHerck, I want to return to the topic of the 
Chinese spy balloon. You were discussing it with Senator Wicker 
earlier. You had said your radars first picked up the balloon 
on Saturday, January 28th. Is that right?
    General VanHerck. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. But you were aware of it on Friday, January 
27th.
    General VanHerck. The intel community made me aware on the 
27th.
    Senator Cotton. On Friday, January 27th, you communicated--
is that when you communicated to General Milley, the Chairman 
of the Joint Chiefs, and to Secretary Austin's military 
assistant?
    General VanHerck. I communicated with the Chairman only on 
the 27th, and conveyed my plan to intercept, ID, and assess the 
balloon when it became a radar capability we could do.
    Senator Cotton. When did you communicate with Secretary 
Austin's senior military assistant?
    General VanHerck. I did that on the 28th.
    Senator Cotton. The 28th. Did you ever speak with Secretary 
Austin about this balloon?
    General VanHerck. I spoke with Secretary Austin on the 1st 
of February.
    Senator Cotton. Wednesday, the 1st of February.
    General VanHerck. To the best of my recollection, that is 
the first verbal discussion with the Secretary. There were 
emails transmitted back and forth. I set up a battle rhythm, 
Senator, and updated the Department every 12 hours beginning on 
January 28th, the location, threat, projected flight path, and 
intent.
    Senator Cotton. Is it your customary practice to speak to 
Secretary Austin's military assistant and not Secretary Austin?
    General VanHerck. No. Verbally I routine speak with the 
Secretary of Defense. Email communication typically goes 
through his assistant and provides it back that way.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. On what date did you have fighter 
aircraft in the air that could have shot down this balloon?
    General VanHerck. I had fighter aircraft in the air on the 
28th of January. They were armed. I sent two F-35s and two F-
16s.
    Senator Cotton. They were armed on the 28th?
    General VanHerck. Yes. The F-16s were armed. They flew off 
of alert. In Alaska I have aircraft on alert, and they were 
armed.
    Senator Cotton. So all that was needed on January 28th was 
to pull the proverbial trigger.
    General VanHerck. So to say pull the proverbial trigger, 
yes, had they had hostile intent or hostile act. I had the 
authority and I would have made that decision. So you are 
exactly correct. After that point it was not my decision to 
pull the trigger, as you say.
    Senator Cotton. There has been publicly released pictures, 
maybe and video, I think one pilot taking a selfie with this 
balloon behind him. Were you confident, on January 28th, what 
the payload on that balloon was?
    General VanHerck. Based on the intel community's assessment 
I would say I had 80 percent confidence level we knew exactly 
what we were going to see. That was further developed over the 
next several days as we were able to collect additional 
intelligence before finally downing the balloon off the South 
Carolina coast.
    Senator Cotton. I am aware of that assessment and I k now 
we cannot talk about it here, but I cannot say that I would 
have had the same level of confidence that it did not have some 
kind of offensive capabilities. Are you aware of at what point 
the President was personally aware of this balloon?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am not.
    Senator Cotton. Why was it okay to shoot the balloon down 
off the coast of South Carolina but not off the coast of 
Alaska?
    General VanHerck. Well, I think there are many things that 
go into that decisionmaking. First is originally we did not 
really have a good model for what the payload would look like 
when it fell or potentially threatened anybody on the ground. 
Now you can look at population density for various places where 
the balloon flew over.
    Senator Cotton. I am not talking about anyplace over the 
continental United States. I do not dispute that. I am talking 
about the coast of Alaska versus the coast of South Carolina.
    General VanHerck. There is nothing that physically prevents 
us from shooting that down on the 28th to the 1st.
    Senator Cotton. If the Administration's policymakers 
thought they had legal justification to shoot it down off the 
coast of South Carolina surely they had legal justification to 
shoot it off the coast of Alaska, right?
    General VanHerck. Senator, my assessment is the legal basis 
would have been the same for either place.
    Senator Cotton. That is what I think too.
    Well, I am glad that you had fighter aircraft in the skies 
that were ready to shoot it down. I think that would have been 
the right call. I know it was not your call, that it goes up 
higher than you, but I think it was a bad mistake to let a 
Chinese spy balloon float all across America and only to leak 
it to The New York Times once some rancher or amateur 
photographer in Montana spotted it. I suspect if they had not 
it would have floated on its merry way all across America and 
this would have never become public. I think that is a 
dangerous precedent to set, not just with China but with all of 
our adversaries. But I am glad you had fighter aircraft from 
your command in the sky that were ready to act.
    Again, thank you both for your service, and since this is 
your last hearing, thank you for many years of service. I know 
that you will not regret missing these appearances in the 
future, but we have always enjoyed having you here. Thank you, 
General. Thank you, General Richardson.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you very 
much to both of you for your years of service and commitment to 
our country.
    General VanHerck, you are responsible for homeland defense, 
and you noted this morning that you have concerns about attack 
assessment and threat warning, and that brings me to concerns I 
have about the missile defense of Hawaii, concerns that I have 
been expressing for a number of years now. I do remain 
concerned that the Department of Defense does not have a plan 
to address the current and future missile defense needs of 
Hawaii. We did have HDR-H Hawaii that is no longer on the 
table, and int appears to me that between NORTHCOM, INDOPACOM, 
SPACECOM, STRATCOM, and the Missile Defense Agency there is no 
single commander entirely responsible for coordinating the 
DOD's defense of Hawaii.
    So just as we saw in the crisis at Red Hill, when no single 
leader has ultimately responsibility for the coordination and 
execution of the mission, there is room for issues to fall 
through the cracks, and adding to the concerning lack of trust 
that Hawaii's communities have regarding the military.
    General VanHerck, do you have the authority to coordinate 
across the Department of Defense to ensure there is a plan for 
missile defense of Hawaii?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am the authority for ballistic 
missile defense such as an ICBM from DPRK, and I am confident 
in my ability to defend Hawaii from those ballistic missiles. 
Admiral Aquilino is responsible for the defense of Hawaii, and 
in the INDOPACOM AOR, and I would say he is the coordinating 
authority for that region. But I am the authority for ballistic 
missile defense of Hawaii.
    Senator Hirono. I think that is the concern that we have, 
is ballistic defense, so that would fall to you then. I am 
assuming that of course you are going to talk with Admiral 
Aquilino.
    General VanHerck. Absolutely. We do coordinate, and in many 
ways I will coordinate in real time with him for the need to 
defend Hawaii from ICBMs potentially from North Korea.
    Senator Hirono. And China.
    General VanHerck. I am not tasked to defend against China 
or Russia for ICBMs. That is the nuclear deterrent, Senator. 
Admiral Aquilino has a responsibility in the INDOPACOM AOR for 
further defense of Hawaii.
    Senator Hirono. You see, this is where I begin to have 
concerns, continuing concerns about who exactly is responsible, 
who is going to come and tell me that the missile defense of 
Hawaii is going to take place, because as I said, for years 
HDR-H Hawaii was going to be the way that we were going to 
provide missile defense. That is no longer on the table, and to 
date I have not gotten any clear information. I am going to get 
a briefing on Monday, and General, I do not know if you have 
someone who is doing that briefing with me and my staff on 
Monday. Are you involved?
    General VanHerck. I am not aware of that. But let me just 
talk about the Homeland Defense Radar Hawaii. First of all, I 
do not need Homeland Defense Radar for Hawaii for the mission I 
am tasked to do, for ballistic missiles that emanate from North 
Korea. Homeland Defense Radar for Hawaii would be a contributor 
to an underlayer, which Admiral Aquilino could certainly use, 
which could tether to Aegis-class ships or other ballistic 
missile defense capabilities in the region.
    Senator Hirono. Well, but then Admiral Aquilino has said 
that he too is not looking to HDR-H Hawaii for the missile 
defense of Hawaii. General, do you know if there is missile 
defense for Hawaii that is going to take care of your area of 
responsibility as well as his? Because we are talking about 
missile defense against intentions from North Korea as well as 
China.
    General VanHerck. Senator, I----
    Senator Hirono. HDR-H Hawaii was North Korea.
    General VanHerck.--I am confident in my ability to defend 
Hawaii from ballistic missiles from DPRK. From China, I am not 
tasked, and I will defer to Admiral Aquilino. That is his 
responsibility.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. I think that provides some level 
of better clarification.
    General VanHerck. I want to add one thing, Senator. General 
Cotton is responsible for the nuclear deterrent, and ballistic 
missiles such as nuclear ballistic missiles from China toward 
Hawaii, that is the nuclear deterrent that does that. 
Conventional, I will defer to Admiral Aquilino.
    Senator Hirono. So again, I am talking about nuclear 
deterrent, not conventional. Nuclear deterrent. It is the 
missiles emanating from China and North Korea that I want 
Hawaii to be defended from, and yes, the shooters are not in 
Hawaii. We are not talking about putting shooters on Hawaii. 
Those are in Alaska and in California.
    So again, you know, all my attempts to get clarification as 
to who is the one agency, one entity, that is responsible for 
missile defense of Hawaii writ large. You know, I am not 
talking about any particular, whether it is ICBMs or whether it 
is the ballistic missiles. You can sense my frustration, so I 
will continue to pursue my line of questioning.
    I am sorry. I will add some questions for the record 
relating to the impact of climate change on your AORs. Thank 
you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to both of you 
I want to thank you both for your service to our country and 
your teams' as well.
    I would like to begin by following up with General VanHerck 
with regard to the same line of questioning that the Chairman 
began with, with regard to spectrum. I do have real concerns 
about the loss of any portion of the spectrum to sales to 
commercial operations, and I recognize that, General VanHerck, 
your role in defending the Homeland is critical. I just wanted 
to clarify or at least better understand part of your response 
to the Chairman's question.
    There is a study, which is underway, which has been 
recognized by both the Secretary of Commerce and the Secretary 
of Defense, specifically regarding the sensitivity or the need 
to maintain, or the impact of the sale of the 3.1 to 3.45 GHz 
portion of the spectrum, which currently is under DOD control. 
Could you share with us, in this unclassified setting, the 
significance of that portion of the spectrum to the defense of 
our country at this time? Do we use all of that in the defense 
of our country today?
    General VanHerck. Senator, absolutely we do. There are 
multiple platforms, to include maritime homeland defense 
platforms, airborne early warning platforms, ground-based early 
warning platforms that enable me to provide threat warning, 
attack assessment, defend from potentially airborne assets, et 
cetera. So we need to understand the national security impacts 
of selling or auctioning, and make a conscious decision before 
we do so.
    Senator Rounds. I also understand, and what I wanted to 
followup with in particular was, it would seem to me that if we 
are doing a study, a legitimate study, that there would be some 
participation by NORTHCOM since this is part of the spectrum 
that they rely on. Confirming you are not aware of being 
involved in that particular study at this time?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I have not personally been 
involved. I will confirm the coordination with my staff, but I 
have not personally been involved in that discussion. I would 
welcome the opportunity to be personally involved.
    Senator Rounds. I would imagine that you probably would, 
sir, seeing as how it is a critical part of the defense of our 
country. I thank you for, when you have provided this Committee 
with your professional military advice it really does ring true 
that there is a very serious concern with the loss of any part 
of that spectrum. So I appreciate that.
    I did want to just followup a little bit as well. Senator 
Cotton laid out a very clear line of questioning with regard to 
the timing and the decisionmaking process with regard to the 
observation balloon from the PRC. If this was a communications-
gathering or an intelligence-gathering unit you did have the 
ability and you could see it coming from a long way off, 
several days in advance, not just with intelligence recognition 
but also with radar catching it.
    But during that time period there was a point at which, as 
you have indicated, it was not identified as being hostile or 
trying to gain an offensive position, therefore, still in 
international air, no reason to, or any purpose for taking it 
out at that point. That is correct, is it no?
    General VanHerck. There is no legal basis in international 
airspace to take action. That would actually undermine our 
position globally by taking action in international airspace.
    I would like to clarify one thing. I did not have the 
capability to see that days away. That came through intel 
community channels. I could not see it until it got within 
radar, and I will talk to you in a classified environment. But 
that was not days away. That was the 28th only.
    Senator Rounds. On the 28th, though, on the 28th it was 
still outside of our legal operating area in terms of 
protecting our borders.
    General VanHerck. So it passed within sovereign territory 
on the 27th, at the end of the Aleutian Island chain, and then 
back into international airspace, until the 28th, where it 
passed within our sovereign space near Saint Matthew Island, 
Alaska, and then transited over Alaska.
    Senator Rounds. During that time in which it had passed out 
in international waters you were aware of it and knew that it 
had the possibility of coming back into our airspace again. But 
by then pretty clear on your part that it was not an 
offensively armed balloon or object.
    General VanHerck. That is correct, Senator. The intel 
community assessed that. That was what I verified on the 28th, 
when we intercepted and I had fighters get their visual on it 
and their targeting pods to be able to make that assessment. 
That is not a 100 percent guarantee, but my assessment at that 
time, based on all the info, was there was no physical military 
threat to the Homeland at that point.
    Senator Rounds. The reason why I am bringing this out and 
going back through it again with you is, number one, I think 
the American people have to understand that if it would have 
been viewed as a threat our armed forces would have protected 
and we would have taken it out prior to the point of getting in 
and damaging any property or individuals within the United 
States at that time. But the second piece on this is it became 
a decision, not necessarily yours, but somewhere farther up the 
chain of command as to not to take it out, even though it was 
entering our airspace. It was not your decision because it was 
not deemed a threat, or to become an offensive threat at that 
time. Fair to say?
    General VanHerck. So if it was a threat I am delegated the 
authority by the President, through the Secretary, and I would 
have taken that out. In this case I did not assess it as a 
threat, and therefore I did not have the authority.
    Senator Rounds. The authority would have rested with 
someone above you in the chain of command.
    General VanHerck. Depending on the legal basis for 
assessment it would have resided either with the Secretary of 
Defense or the President.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator King, please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am going to ask 
both of you about unfunded priorities. General Richardson, we 
are under attack--110,000 people died last year of overdoses. 
That is 300 a day. Twelve people have died in America since we 
have been sitting here in the last hour, and yet your ISR 
capability to at least assist in detecting and helping us to 
interdict this dread attack is on an unfunded priorities list. 
Why is it not in the base budget? This seems to be one of the 
most serious and intensely important responsibilities that you 
will have in order to help us to deal with this scourge. Why is 
it an unfunded priority and not base budget?
    General Richardson. Senator, I do not think any commander 
will say they have enough ISR, and so certainly as we look 
across the----
    Senator King. But 2 percent of the ISR that is dealing with 
this brutal attack that is killing our citizens just does not 
seem to me to pass the straight-face test.
    General Richardson. I could do more with a little bit more, 
and our partner nations, with the capabilities and building 
their maritime domain awareness and being able to share air 
tracks and things like that, all of us working together. We 
have very willing partners.
    I would like to, if I might, Senator, behind me in the 
audience we have part of our Inter-American Defense College, 
and part of their instruction is to come here and watch us 
testify as commanders to our Congress and talk about the 
challenges----
    Senator King. It is a lesson to them of what to avoid, I 
would think.
    General Richardson. If they would raise their hands back 
there, so you can see all of them.
    Senator King. Thank you.
    General Richardson. They are in that whole group right 
there.
    Senator King. Let me followup.
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator.
    Senator King. We have established that you do not have 
enough ISR. The ISR that you have, previous testimony by your 
predecessors has been we do not have the resources to interdict 
but something like 25 percent of the drug shipments we know 
about. Is that still true?
    General Richardson. I have the detection and monitoring 
mission for the Department of Defense through JIATF South, 
Joint Interagency Task Force South, and so----
    Senator King. But when you detect and notify----
    General Richardson.--we pass that right over to law 
enforcement or partner nations to do the interdictions.
    Senator King. What percentage is interdicted, as far as you 
know?
    General Richardson. We believe that we are getting after 
about 10 percent of what we know is the known flow of narcotics 
flow.
    Senator King. We are only getting 10 percent of what we 
know.
    General Richardson. Correct, Senator.
    Senator King. That is appalling, and I realize it is not 
your responsibility but it is a collective responsibility that 
we are just simply not meeting in this country, to have, number 
one, inadequate ISR on this problem, and number two, to not 
make effective use of the ISR we do have.
    General VanHerck, let me turn to you about unfunded 
priorities. One of your major unfunded priorities, again, is 
essentially ISR, capability to observe what is going on. We 
know the Russians are heavily militarizing their shore of the 
Arctic Ocean. Again, my question to you is, it seems to me you 
have made a powerful case in your unfunded priority list. Why 
is it not in the base budget?
    General VanHerck. I will have to defer to the Department in 
the present budget why it did not come across, Senator. I am 
asking for it. I would also point out I asked for $38 million 
for additional support for transnational criminal 
organizations, to lead Federal agencies that I am short as 
well. There is additional money in my unfunded priority list 
for that as well.
    Senator King. Well, I am starting to think what we should 
do is fund your unfunded priority list instead of the base 
budget because you have articulated priorities that are so 
important to us.
    Talk about--well, perhaps this has to be in a classified 
setting, but the lack of visibility, of domain awareness as the 
Arctic is fundamentally changing and becoming one of the most 
strategic places on Earth.
    General VanHerck. Yes, Senator, thank you for the 
opportunity to talk about that. The National Defense Strategy 
tasked me to monitor and respond in the Arctic.
    I am encouraged with the monitor piece. We have got some 
over-the-horizon radars. We need to go faster there. Canada is 
committed to that. Again, we need to go faster. But under 
monitor we need to think about the use of SpaceX and Starlink 
capabilities and buying terminals that gives us data and 
information sharing. I am encouraged by the Jobs and 
Infrastructure Bill. There is $250 million in that to modernize 
the Port of Nome. We need to move forward to give us some 
capability to be persistent in the Arctic for the monitor piece 
as well.
    But you need icebreakers as well, so we have got to go 
faster there.
    Senator King. You have just listed, basically we have an 
Arctic gap. Is that correct?
    General VanHerck. That is my assessment.
    Senator King. Not geographically. I mean, national security 
wise.
    General VanHerck. That is my assessment. As I mentioned 
earlier on the respond side, we are not organized, trained, and 
equipped to operate and respond in the Arctic. Infrastructure 
is a big concern for me, whether that be runway lengths, 
whether that be building, whether that be weapon storage, 
whether that be fuel storage. When you only have a few days' 
worth of fuel and that fuel is shared with indigenous local 
communities, those are challenges that we will face in a 
crisis.
    My homeland defense design is a layered defense. It starts 
forward, and we need the Arctic to do that.
    I would point out that Thule Air Base in Greenland is 
crucial. There is some money in the budget for Thule, but not 
to support my homeland defense design, which I am tasked to do 
a layered defense of the Homeland by the Department.
    Senator King. Thank you both, and thank you for your candid 
testimony today and for your service to the country.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Let me also, on behalf of the Committee, recognize the 
Inter-American Defense College. Bienvenidos.
    Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to both 
of you for being here and your service.
    General VanHerck, just to followup on Senator King's 
question how would Maxar and Saildrone help you in the Artic? 
Would it be, you know, commercially, and how would that help 
you?
    General VanHerck. Can you say that again?
    Senator Tuberville. Maxar and Saildrone. Would it help you 
in the Arctic?
    General VanHerck. I am not familiar with specifically. I am 
familiar with the OneWeb efforts, Starlink, satellite 
communications, anything that gives me additional domain 
awareness, data, and information-sharing will absolutely help 
in the Arctic. It is very challenging above 65-North to 
communicate, to share data, to share information.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, and I do not want to pound 
on this balloon nonsense but how would you assess your 
relationship with your Canadian counterparts through this 
entire scenario?
    General VanHerck. I think my relationship with our Canadian 
counterparts--by the way, I have a boss in Canada, General 
Wayne Eyre, is exceptional.
    Senator Tuberville. He runs NORAD, right?
    General VanHerck. No. I run NORAD. He is the Chief of the 
Defense Staff----
    Senator Tuberville. Okay.
    General VanHerck.--in Canada. He is the CHOD. He is their 
senior military member.
    Senator Tuberville. So your relationship was good through 
this whole scenario?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely. Yes.
    Senator Tuberville. If that same balloon took off today, 
same path, loaded the same way, now that we know what was on it 
and that we brought it down, should or would we shoot it down?
    General VanHerck. That is a policy decision. My job is to 
maintain options. I did that. I am very comfortable that we had 
options from the moment we detected it until the moment we shot 
it down. Ultimately ``should'' is a policy decision. That is 
not a military decision.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay. Thank you.
    General Richardson, thanks for being here today and thanks 
for the hospitality last week, coming to SOUTHCOM. You have got 
a great organization. The people working for you, they are 
outstanding. We learned a lot. I would hope that we have more 
people come down that way would look at your new program that 
you are building, quarters for your personnel, through lend/
lease, which I think we should look at through the Air Force 
and through the Navy, because I think we need to privatize more 
things on basis to cut back on costs. But I look forward to 
seeing how that turns out.
    Could you comment on that?
    General Richardson. Thank you, Senator. That is for our 
family housing for our servicemembers in Miami and certainly a 
really tough housing market. This will absolutely get after 
being able to counter all of those really high prices in a big 
city like Miami. So we are very thankful that we are able to 
get that off the ground, and with the support of Congress we 
have been able to do that, so thank you very much.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, and we are looking forward to 
seeing how that works out. I was very impressed with the 
people, after I go to Panama, that were there, actually from my 
State of Alabama, Mobile. The Corps of Engineers are down there 
working, and we have got a lot of good people.
    Just tell us how important, in your eyes, the Panama Canal 
is to us here in the United States, in your eyes, since you 
have been there.
    General Richardson. Well, Senator, more than 70 percent of 
our global goods go through the Panama Canal for the United 
States. So the importance to the global economy, though, it is 
not just about what the United States gets, but that is the 
give-back through that canal being open as the exchange of 
goods across the world. I talked about trade before, over $740 
billion in trade, and so very, very important to the global 
economy for the Panama Canal.
    Senator Tuberville. On top of that, recently, over the last 
few years, China has signed 30 contracts with the Panamanians, 
some of it to do with the canal, and the Panamanians are now 
trying to get out of some of those contracts because the 
Chinese have breached some of those contracts, which we need, 
as the United States of America, to protect Panama, because 
that is how important it is to all of us. But really good 
people down there.
    Could you talk a little bit about the two Iranian ships 
that are parked outside the Panama Canal and the process that 
we need to look at. Do they need to be able to use the Panama 
Canal?
    General Richardson. So in terms of the Iranian warships 
that transited into the SOUTHCOM region and since departed, but 
as part of their announcing their global voyage to go around 
the globe, and certainly some of the countries that were able 
to deny port calls and things like that. But very concerning 
because they were just in the region 2 years ago with missiles 
and with launchers on those same two ships. So very, very 
concerned that they are transiting again. We did not have the 
intelligence that they had this cargo on board this time, but 
still the fact that they came into the region again, and doing 
a global voyage, is concerning.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Thank you for your service. 
General VanHerck, thank you very much for what you have done 
for our country.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Warren, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses for your service.
    The Pentagon's budget request is $842 billion. This is one 
of the largest requests in history, but it is not enough money 
for many components of DOD. Each year they push to get even 
more money using unfunded priorities lists, or what I call wish 
lists.
    Now our colleagues on both sides of the aisle are concerned 
about this and they want to see this practice stopped. One of 
the excuses that I have received, as I have asked about these 
lists, is that they reflect emerging threats that cannot be 
accommodated in the regular budget process. Now we have 
transfer and reprogramming authority to account for exactly 
that situation, but even so let us assume that is true. That 
means wish lists would only include items that have been 
requested before. You could not know about it when you put your 
budget together.
    General VanHerck, last year your unfunded priority list 
contained a request for $50 million for missile defense. Is 
that right?
    General VanHerck. For this year or last year?
    Senator Warren. Last year.
    General VanHerck. I would have to go back and review it. I 
believe that is correct.
    Senator Warren. Well, I will tell you. It is there. I 
understand you may not remember all the details, but it is 
there. Had you requested funding for that program before?
    General VanHerck. Yes. In this year's list as well. 
Everything on my unfunded list----
    Senator Warren. So let me just be clear here. I am just 
trying to track this one argument, and that is, is this some 
unexpected expense. You knew about it last year. How do I know 
you knew about it last year? Because you had also requested 
funding for it from the year before. In other words, this is 
not an unexpected requirement for missile defense that you are 
trying to get funded through the unfunded priorities list. Is 
that right?
    General VanHerck. Senator, everything on my unfunded 
priority list I POM'ed for, asked for. It was not funded.
    Senator Warren. I have no doubt that it was----
    General VanHerck. Please allow me to finish.
    Senator Warren. I have no doubt that it was not----
    General VanHerck. Can I finish answering your question?
    Senator Warren. I am the one asking the question here. Was 
this on your list before and was it a surprise what you put on 
your unfunded priority list?
    General VanHerck. There are no surprises on my unfunded 
priority list.
    Senator Warren. Okay. That is what needed to know.
    General VanHerck. All of those were POM'ed for. They are 
all missions I am tasked to do, which I am not resourced to do, 
and the law directs me to put in an unfunded list within 10 
days of the budget, and that is exactly what I did.
    Senator Warren. No. Excuse me. The law does not require 
that you put in any request. We know last year that two 
different divisions actually put in requests of zero. They did 
not go to an unfunded priorities list.
    Now General Richardson, intelligence surveillance and 
reconnaissance capabilities have repeatedly appeared on your 
wish list as well. As Commander of Southern Command you are on 
the front line, confronting transnational criminal 
organizations, trafficking drugs in regions there and home, and 
I appreciate that work. Last year you asked for an additional 
$268 million on your wish list.
    Now General Richardson, did DOD approve reprogramming money 
for any of the missions under your command this year?
    General Richardson. So this year in terms of the funding 
that I have received, I have $130 million for security 
cooperation for the region. So in terms of the reprogramming, I 
am not aware of that.
    Senator Warren. Well, according to the Controller's 
website, $750 million was reprogrammed to support drug 
interdiction. Does that sound about right to you?
    General Richardson. I am not tracking the 750, Senator.
    Senator Warren. Okay. All right.
    But look, here is the point I want to make on this. DOD 
already has the tools to reshuffle its resources when needed. 
Not only that, they have also done so for a key SOUTHCOM 
mission in an amount that was almost three times larger than 
your wish list. Both of you have already submitted your lists 
for this year. I will be submitting questions for the record to 
learn more about why you could not include these in your budget 
priorities.
    I understand you want more money, but you have to work 
within the budget that is given to you. That is what every 
other part of the government has to do. I have got a bill with 
Senator King, Senator Lee, Senator Braun, that would end the 
statutory requirement for these lists. But I want to make 
clear--DOD could shut them down on their own right now. We do 
not let any other part of government behave like this, and for 
good reason.
    The budget process is about making tough choices and 
setting clear priorities, and refusal to demonstrate leadership 
here I think is a real mistake.
    General VanHerck. Chairman, I want to correct the record.
    Chairman Reed. Senator----
    General VanHerck. One hundred percent of my items on my 
unfunded priority list were submitted as part of the budget 
process.
    Chairman Reed. I understand, sir. Any other comments, 
General Richardson?
    General Richardson. The same here, Senator. Those 
requirements that I put forward to the Department as well.
    Senator Warren. I do not think I quite understand what our 
witnesses are saying here.
    Chairman Reed. I think what they wanted was to be able to 
fully respond to your questions, Senator, and with that I 
would----
    Senator Warren. But these are not on their budget now.
    Chairman Reed. I think the time has expired. Thank you very 
much.
    Senator Schmitt, and Senator Rosen will preside as I go to 
the Appropriations Committee.
    Senator Schmitt, please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
thank you both for being here. I would note to the Committee 
that both of these witnesses have Missouri ties and Missouri 
roots.
    It is my belief, and I have talked about it a little bit in 
this Committee before, that too few people, quite frankly, 
understand the urgency, the gravity, and the proximity of the 
threat that the PRC, China, poses to the United States of 
America. They are rapid development as being a militarized 
power now, and projecting that power is very real. It is that 
proximity that I want to ask both of you separate questions 
about, given your roles.
    The Belt and Road Initiative clearly is an initiative to 
further their economic, militaristic, and political goals, and 
the dual use that they get out of this once they are involved 
with these countries is very real.
    So General Richardson, I wanted to ask you. It seems me 
that China is gaining far too much traction in the Western 
Hemisphere, if we sort of look at this under the old Monroe 
Doctrine. In the Western Hemisphere they continually abuse, not 
just the debt traps that are established but they abuse those 
agreements to then later expand militarily.
    Could you talk about a couple of those examples that you 
see, and Senator Scott, I think, had a great line of 
questioning about how we can better explain to our folks back 
home the real risks. So from your perspective, a couple of 
examples that you would want to highlight that raise real 
concerns for you in the Western Hemisphere.
    General Richardson. So that Belt and Road Initiative, 
Senator, that you talk about, that is really the guise or the 
disguise of how I see that the PRC gets their foot in the door, 
to expand a lot of these projects into the critical 
infrastructure for the partner nations. So when you are talking 
deepwater ports in 17 countries, the telecommunications, the 
5G, 5G backbone in five of the countries, 24 countries having 
the PRC 3G or 4G, and I worry about that, the stealing of 
information. There have been numerous cyberattacks of our 
partner nations in the region.
    You have a communist nation that does not respect the human 
rights of their own people, with Huawei and ZTE, and fostering 
this out to all of the other partner nations across the globe, 
not just in my region. So they do not respect the human rights 
of their own people. They are not going to respect the human 
rights of every other nation. So that is a huge concern in 
terms of telecommunications.
    The space, space infrastructure. Eleven space-enabling 
infrastructure sites in five countries in the region as well.
    So it is very, very concerning, especially with the dual 
use that they come in, they are state-owned enterprises from 
the PRC, which means that they can be used for military 
application at a later date, if needed or wanted.
    Senator Schmitt. General VanHerck, we have talked about it 
before in classified briefings here and in previous settings 
about the Chinese spy balloon, you know, fiasco, and showed how 
brazen the Chinese Communist Party is willing to be to gain 
intelligence. I think that opened the eyes of a lot of 
Americans of, again, just how brazen they were.
    But one obvious concern is that they will not just send a 
spy balloon. There will be something else, and you have talked 
about awareness. What are specifically a couple of things that 
this Committee can do to help with that?
    General VanHerck. We need to continue to accelerate domain 
awareness capabilities. The Department has done a good job with 
recognizing my domain awareness capability gaps, which includes 
funding over-the-horizon radar. But we need to think 
differently about how we field capabilities in a more timely 
and rapid manner, using digital technology we have today vice 
industrial age processes. You can help with encouraging that 
and moving forward with that, and also encouraging testing, 
development, and when there are failures, let us not stop 
everything. Let us move forward more quickly to field and 
rapidly develop capabilities.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Rosen. [Presiding.] Senator Peters, you are 
recognized.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    General VanHerck, I would like to build on the concerns you 
mentioned in your earlier testimony regarding cyberattacks here 
in the Homeland, and specifically, could you further explain 
some of your gaps with authorities, personnel, and instructions 
for synchronizing and responding to cyberattacks affecting 
local defense communities and how you would coordinate with the 
Department of Homeland Security in the event of such an attack.
    General VanHerck. Senator, thank you. First, my largest 
domain awareness gap, and my biggest concern, is actually cyber 
domain awareness. The vast majority of the critical 
infrastructure in our Homeland resides outside of DOD, which 
General Nakasone is responsible for, and outside other Federal 
networks, which Jen Easterly at CISA is responsible for.
    My authorities there are limited to have domain awareness. 
FISA-702 is crucial to having domain awareness, to giving us 
indicators of potential threats in the Homeland, whether they 
be violent extremist threats or whether they be peer threats. 
So I would encourage that we continue doing that, to give the 
National Security Agency and General Nakasone the ability to 
help fill those domain awareness gaps.
    My responsibility for cyber is I have two cyber protection 
teams that defend my critical infrastructure in my 
headquarters. More broadly, General Nakasone is responsible for 
the DODIN. I am responsible for providing defense support to 
civil authorities. So for example, if Jen Easterly at CISA 
needs support, and DOD is going to provide Title 10 support, 
that support will go through me to provide just like I do for 
hurricane or wildfire response.
    Senator Peters. Well, I chair Homeland Security Committee 
here in the Senate and work on the cyber issues, so I look 
forward to working closely with you as to how we coordinate 
that, because there is no question that cyber is one of the 
most significant threats we face in the Homeland on a daily 
basis, and I want to throw out an example of this and get your 
response.
    Let us take an example in Fayetteville, North Carolina, 
home to the Army Special Operations Command and the Immediate 
Response Force. If they had suffered a cyberattack to degrade 
the mobilization and deployment of the 82d Airborne Division, 
in response to some crisis, would your command have the 
appropriate authorities and personnel to respond and to 
mitigate? Do you have concerns and are those things we should 
be looking at pretty seriously?
    General VanHerck. We should talk in a classified 
environment about potential impacts, but to respond to the 
actual cyber incident, that is going to be General Nakasone, or 
of it is outside of the DODIN it is going to be Jen Easterly. I 
am comfortable that I have everything I need to do to respond 
to provide defense support of civil authorities should we be 
tasked to do that, to support a lead Federal agency.
    Again, it is a concern for me to not have domain awareness 
in the cyber domain about potential threats.
    Senator Peters. Well, I look forward to discussions in a 
secure environment as we further examine that, to make sure 
that it is working properly.
    The other question I have for you is you discussed the 
challenges of ensuring that Joint Force is able to operate in 
the Arctic, and you are challenged to respond to potential 
threats with forces that are either organic to the National 
Guard command structures or assigned to external combatant 
commands.
    Given the awareness at NORTHCOM of the potential threats in 
the Arctic--and I think I am asking this question before 
Senator Sullivan can ask you a question related to this, but I 
am sure will be coming--given that awareness would you 
recommend the services prioritize Arctic training and cold 
weather operational readiness for units who may be ultimately 
assigned to your command? When I say Arctic training that does 
not necessarily mean necessarily in Alaska but also other cold 
weather environments like the State of Michigan, with our 
training facilities there.
    General VanHerck. Senator, absolutely I would. Fifty-2 
percent of my AOR is in the Arctic, in the NORTHCOM AOR. As I 
said earlier I am tasked to monitor and respond. On the respond 
piece it is crucial that we conduct training operations. It is 
also crucial for campaigning, to demonstrate we have the 
capability, the readiness, the responsiveness, and the 
resiliency to operate in the Arctic day-to-day, as part of our 
campaigning plan.
    It is also crucial that we invest in research and 
development to ensure that our platforms are able to sustain 
and operate and the human is able to sustain and operate in 
this environment. I think we have work still to be done there.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, General. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Rosen. Senator Scott, you are recognized.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. I thank both of you for what you 
do. Thanks for your hard work to try to take care of national 
security.
    General Richardson, can you talk a little bit about, first, 
your ability to sort of watch what is happening in the area 
that you are responsible for, and do you have the resources you 
need to be able to monitor what is going on, and do you have 
good partners with the military in countries outside of our 
country?
    General Richardson. So we have outstanding partners, 
Senator, that want to work with us, and very willing partners, 
and to be able to see everything, see the malign activity, be 
able to spot it, be able to go after it, you have got to see it 
in order to go after it. So the domain awareness, as I have 
talked to this Committee before, I get about 2 percent of the 
DOD ISR, gets after about 17 percent of my requirement. I would 
just say in terms of the urgency right now being at an all-time 
high, narcotics flow being at an all-time high, my capability 
and capacity to see is at an all-time low for my allocated 
resources.
    Senator Scott. So what do you need?
    General Richardson. So I would need the resourcing in terms 
of the platforms. I would say in terms of allocated forces the 
ideal platform would be a P-8----
    Senator Scott. How many?
    General Richardson.--with a long dwell, long operation, 
being able to see. I would say anywhere from four to six, which 
is what SOUTHCOM had a couple of years ago, and those went away 
about a year ago in January.
    Also for our partner nations their ability to see as well. 
The ground-based radars are very important.
    Senator Scott. So Guyana now is a rich country with lots of 
oil, and they have got a lot of bad actors around them. From a 
national security standpoint for us and also to make sure they 
continue their democracy, what support do we need to provide 
and what support can you provide?
    General Richardson. That is a very willing partner, Guyana, 
and the relationship that we have with Guyana, fastest-growing 
economy in the world right now because of the light, sweet 
crude that was discovered off their shores. But they are very 
vulnerable in terms of their capacity and being able to--you 
know, our embassy there needs to be a little bit bigger to help 
them channel and guide them with all these new additional 
resources. My little DOD team needs to be a little bit bigger 
as well.
    But they can be a stabilizing factor in the region, Guyana, 
just by fact of where they are located. They are a neighbor to 
Venezuela, also to Brazil and Surinam, but a very willing 
partner.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. General VanHerck, the southern 
border, there has been conversation in DC that the military 
could go in and secure the entire southern border, and I know 
we have National Guard down there that are helping at the 
southern border.
    Without taking a policy position on whether we should or 
should not do it, is there really the ability, does the 
military really have the ability to have much of an influence 
on the security of the southern border?
    General VanHerck. Senator, within the authorities we have 
we cannot do that, but our military, the most professional, 
capable on the planet, if tasked to do that, absolutely we 
could. That is a policy decision, as you alluded to. We have 
incredible capability to do whatever we desire to do, as United 
States military.
    Senator Scott. So, and I am sorry, you might have answered 
this question before I got here. Talk about hypersonics and our 
ability to defend ourselves against hypersonics.
    General VanHerck. I am not tasked to defend against 
hypersonics in the Homeland, with the exception of cruise 
missiles. Where I am most concerned is about my ability to 
detect and provide threat warning as the NORAD commander and 
attack assessment, because of the erosion of strategic 
stability that it has for providing continuity of government 
and nuclear force posture survival.
    We can talk more in a classified session. I will give you 
some more details.
    Senator Scott. All right. Thank you.
    Senator Rosen. Senator Kelly, you are recognized.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    General Richardson, I want to followup a little bit on 
Senator Scott's question about what you need in SOUTHCOM, and 
then the same for NORTHCOM, just recognizing that, you know, my 
State, the State of Arizona, has 370 miles of border with 
Mexico, and just the amount of transnational criminal 
organizations that are operating south of the border and the 
fentanyl that is coming from, you know, chemicals that come 
from China into Mexico, manufactured there and then come across 
our border is killing tens of thousands of Americans every 
single year. That is unacceptable.
    You talked about needing four to six P-8s. How long ago was 
it that you had a single P-8?
    General Richardson. A year ago in January the P-8s were 
retasked to another area.
    Senator Kelly. How many did you have then?
    General Richardson. At that time it was two----
    Senator Kelly. You had two?
    General Richardson.--from a high of six.
    Senator Kelly. You feel you need four to six.
    General VanHerck, do you have P-8s available?
    General VanHerck. I get a little more ISR than General 
Richardson does, but my ISR request is pretty much on a not-to-
interfere basis that I get along the southwest border. Now, 
Senator, you have to realize that I am limited on collecting 
intelligence in the Homeland, by the law, and so therefore you 
cannot expect me to be able to do that on this side. We do try 
to get additional information on the other side of the border, 
as well, on transnational criminal organizations as well as the 
National Security Agency helping us.
    Senator Kelly. So you cannot fly the airplane south of the 
border without permission from Mexico. But can you fly a P-8 
along the border and get some valuable information? I mean, is 
there something that, some utility?
    General VanHerck. So we do fly U-2s and RC-135s, not 
necessarily P-8, to gather information about threats to the 
Homeland that emanate from all of our borders, not just the 
southwest border. My actual allocation of that ISR is very low 
compared to, you know, forward geographic combatant commanders.
    Senator Kelly. But does NORTHCOM have P-8s available right 
now?
    General VanHerck. I have P-8s available, one allocated to 
me for maritime homeland defense, which would be in support of 
submarine activity, not necessarily southwest border activity.
    Senator Kelly. Where is that airplane based?
    General VanHerck. That airplane is in Whidbey Island, 
Washington.
    Senator Kelly. I imagine it probably as a significant 
OPTEMPO to it right now?
    General VanHerck. Well, it is not one airplane. It is an 
entire organization wing up there. The one airplane is access 
to a single airplane. They are continually doing their mission 
training and support. I get access to that one airplane under 
the Maritime Homeland Defense EXORD.
    Senator Kelly. What do you think we would need to do to 
provide like a detachment to SOUTHCOM?
    General VanHerck. Is that for me?
    Senator Kelly. Either of you.
    General Richardson. Senator, if I might be able to talk 
about security cooperation in addition to the ISR capability 
because our partner nations, that security cooperation is my 
main lever in SOUTHCOM, and being able to train and equip our 
partners to be able to handle and counter the effects of the 
transnational criminal organizations, which are at the top of 
their list that they deal with every single day. The TCOs are 
way more powerful. They are more sophisticated. They are five 
times more than all the defense budgets added together for my 
entire region of partner nations, and we have got to really get 
after that.
    But the foreign military sales, foreign military financing, 
excess defense articles, we have got to speed that process up 
because every delay in a piece of equipment, a little goes a 
long way in this region. I do not need big aircraft carriers. 
Our partner nations do not need big brigades of soldiers or 
helicopters, but they need five or six helicopters, a maritime 
patrol aircraft, the King Air 250. I mean, these go a long way 
for them, but every delay in that means our partner is not in 
the fight with us, and so we need to make them stronger to 
counter the powerful TCOs.
    Senator Kelly. General?
    General VanHerck. I would just like to followup. We are not 
going to interdict our way out of this problem. It is part of 
the transnational criminal organization model. What we are 
attacking are the symptoms of the problem. That is the human 
migration, the counternarcotics trafficking, those kinds of 
things. The problem is transnational criminal organizations and 
their network.
    So I am encouraged. I just sat through the Interdiction 
Committee. It is chaired by the Commandant of the Coast Guard 
with interagency support, and there is a great strategy out of 
the Office of National Drug Control Policy to get after this. 
The challenge is operationalizing that strategy across all the 
entities of the government who have a hand in this. You cannot 
have multiple entities all doing their own thing.
    So I do not see this as a DOD lead, but I do think we need 
a lead Federal agency empowered to get after the problem that 
you are talking about across multiple agencies across our 
Nation.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, General VanHerck and General 
Richardson, and my office will followup.
    Chairman Reed.
    [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you 
both for your time this morning. This testimony is important to 
this Committee because right now our adversaries are probing 
our Homeland and really looking for weakness right here in our 
hemisphere. Our Homeland is no longer a sanctuary, so thank you 
again.
    General Richardson, your statement cites at least 11 China-
linked space facilities across 5 different countries in the 
region, and this is more than any other area of responsibility 
that we see around the globe. So what are the national security 
implications of these particular space facilities?
    General Richardson. Well just the ability for the Chinese 
to be able to track and launch their own satellites, but then 
also the ability to surveil not just the United States but our 
partner nations' satellites as well across the globe.
    Senator Ernst. Right, and what are you doing to mitigate 
that surveillance that you spoke of? Are there things that we 
can do?
    General Richardson. So we are partnering together, of 
course, with SPACECOM, with NORTHCOM. We hosted the very first 
inaugural Space Conference of the Americas, bringing all of the 
space-faring nations together to talk about responsible space 
operations. Also the capabilities and being able to get after 
the malign activity possibly associated with those. It is 
always under supposed research and development and that sort of 
thing, and the concern is maybe it is not.
    Senator Ernst. Right. That is my concern, and what are we 
doing then to prevent more of these space facilities from being 
located in your AOR?
    General Richardson. So I think just working with the 
partner nations, with the governments in terms of the 
responsible space operations and things like that, and talking 
about and discussing and warning the possibilities associated 
with it.
    Senator Ernst. Again, relationships matter, so it is very 
important in this region specifically.
    General Richardson, during your confirmation you committed 
to notify Congress if China emplaces long-range missiles in the 
area of operations. How do you assess the risk of this in the 
midterm?
    General Richardson. So I assess all the development and the 
Belt and Road Initiative and the critical infrastructure as 
just setting the theater, or setting the table, if you want to 
put it that way, in terms of possible basing and that sort of 
thing in the future. I would say that we are probably about 7 
to 10 years behind what has happened in Africa, and with the 
state-owned enterprises from the Chinese in the region I worry 
about the dual-use capability and used for military 
application.
    Senator Ernst. Right. I do as well, and what more can we do 
for SOUTHCOM to prevent China from continuing to expand in the 
region?
    General Richardson. Well I would say that Team USA can do a 
better job in terms of tooting our own horn about all the 
investment from the private sector all the way to what I do in 
the military and defense sector. Foreign military sales and 
foreign military financing, excess defense articles, training 
and equipping is really what we get after. We introduce the 
Inter-America Defense College that is behind me here for their 
professional development session. You know, our schools are so 
important to build trust with our partner nations that we can 
communicate, talk in the same language. That is what I really 
bring to the table is being able to work with our partner 
nations in building that trust, so we can counter the malign 
activity together.
    Senator Ernst. I think that is so important. Again, those 
relationships matter in this area of operations, and you 
normally place in front of us what we call a placemat that 
shows the region and Russian influence, Chinese influence. I 
just want to make sure that it is very clear to everyone that 
is watching today, listening to us, that they understand that 
while China is our pacing threat and we focus on the INDOPACOM, 
we have to recognize that they are in this hemisphere as well. 
They are here. They are everywhere around us. They are building 
space facilities. They are building other points of operation, 
and they are in our backyard.
    So while we do focus on the INDOPACOM it is very, very 
important. We have got to focus here as well and understand 
that they are surrounding us, and we have got to do more about 
that.
    General VanHerck, just in the remaining few seconds that we 
have, what would be the homeland defense implications of 
persistent Russia or Chinese cruise missile submarines off of 
our coasts? Do you assess this risk is increasing or 
decreasing?
    General VanHerck. It is absolutely increasing. Within the 
last year Russia has also placed their Severodvinsk-class 
submarines in the Pacific, so now not only the Atlantic, we 
have them in the Pacific. It is just a matter of probably a 
year or two before that is a persistent threat, 24 hours a day 
potentially. That impact is reduced decision space for a 
nation's senior leader in a time of crisis.
    Senator Ernst. Absolutely, and again, thank you both so 
much for your service and dedication to protecting our 
Homeland. I just want to emphasize again how important it is 
that we pay attention to Russia and China in this hemisphere as 
well. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for holding this 
important hearing, and I want to thank both Generals Richardson 
and VanHerck for testifying today, for your service, and 
General VanHerck, of course, for your service to our very own 
Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada. Thank you.
    I am going to buildupon what so many others have already 
been talking about, our adversaries in our own backyard, China 
and Russia, 5G technology, all of that.
    General Richardson, you mentioned in your opening statement 
24 countries in SOUTHCOM's AOR have existing 3G and 4G Chinese 
telecommunication infrastructure. Of course, we have been 
talking about the Belt and Road. An additional five countries 
have upgraded to Huawei's 5G network, and as has been 
discussed, this adoption of all this technology in your AOR, it 
is more than concerning. It impacts our national security and 
the security of all our regional partners.
    So again, I just want to build on what they have been 
asking. What role do you, not just in countering the adoption 
of the 5G technology in Latin America, do you think there are 
ways to leverage public-private partnerships so you do not have 
to do everything, and can you speak to this and how you are 
doing that please?
    General Richardson. Absolutely, Senator, and the fact that 
traveling to the region and putting all of these data points 
together and hearing from the leaders in the region and then 
coming back here to the United States to talk to our private 
sector as well, and hear from them, the billions of dollars of 
investment. But then when you hear of the big projects and 
tenders coming down from our partner nations, and then there 
are only six Chinese companies that compete for that project or 
the tender, then there is a disconnect there. That is why I 
think that we have got to show the investment that our private 
sector is doing, which is billions. When I hear from them and 
talk to them there is billions of investment into the region, 
and we have got to advertise that.
    Team USA is there. Our partners want to work with us. They 
will turn to us first. But their economies are hurting, and if 
we cannot do it fast enough, and our foreign military sales and 
our training and equipping sometimes is not as fast. They are 
on a political timeline of one term, which is 4 years, and so 
they are on a stopwatch to deliver for their people, not a 
calendar. So we have got to speed up our processes. Because 
they will look to us first, but if we do not have capability to 
deliver then they are going to look elsewhere to wherever they 
can get it.
    Senator Rosen. I think accelerating the process and having 
a budget, not a CR, going through, everyone has talked about 
that.
    General VanHerck, I want to speak with you a little bit 
about this because we know Huawei and foreign-owned companies, 
they are responsible for our United States miliary 
installations and ICBM fields, our training ranges, obviously, 
at Nellis. We know that people are building these 
telecommunications sites nearby all of these so they can 
collect information.
    I know we are in an open setting, but can you talk about 
the threat this poses, what can we do, public-private 
partnership, and your opinion. Can you elaborate a little bit?
    General VanHerck. Absolutely. I am very concerned about 
Chinese communications infrastructure being built not 
necessarily by Chinese but with companies here in the United 
States in close proximity to national security locations. We 
have to keep an eye on that. That is a threat to our national 
security. It is an intelligence collection threat. It may be 
even a more broad threat.
    I would also point out in my AOR, in the Bahamas, China is 
very aggressive. Their Ambassador in the information space, 
they have built a new embassy. Economic investment in the 
largest resort outside of China is right in the Bahamas, right 
off of our coast. It sits right on top of the Navy's AUTEC test 
and train ranges, which there is potential collection there. 
They are interested in developing smart cities here in the 
region. I will not go into detail. I would in a classified 
environment. Selling equipment that we, or our partners, 
utilize for assessment of goods crossing the border, all those 
kinds of things.
    I would also point out one of the main lessons from COVID 
for me was the supply chain and our supply chain 
vulnerabilities, that we have farmed out so much to China. You 
know, when you get 80 percent of your pharmaceuticals from 
somebody that you may face in a crisis in the future, that is a 
national security imperative that we need to go look at.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. We just had a hearing about that 
in Homeland Security yesterday, bringing back particularly that 
pharmaceutical supply chain, critical medications.
    I am going to take my next question off the record, but I 
want you to elaborate on cyber domain awareness that you spoke 
about. But my time is up so we will just submit that. Thank you 
again.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Budd, please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and again, thank you 
both for being here. General Richardson, it was great to sit 
down with you yesterday and have a helpful conversation.
    Following up a little bit on Senator Rosen's questions 
about foreign military sales, I have got a couple of yes-or-no 
questions about the process, and I have asked similar questions 
of other combatant commanders. General Richardson, is the 
current FMS process fast and flexible enough to meet our 
foreign partners' security needs in your AOR?
    General Richardson. No, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Does the transfer of U.S. defense articles 
build our partners' capacity to provide for their own defense?
    General Richardson. Yes, it does, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Is China increasing arms exports to any other 
countries in your AOR?
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Is the United States still the security 
partner of choice in your AOR?
    General Richardson. The U.S. is the security partner of 
choice, Senator, yes.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. Is the United States at risk of 
losing that security partner of choice status to China?
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Budd. If you would explain a little bit about how 
FMS challenges are impacting strategic competition with China 
in your AOR.
    General Richardson. Yes. So the ability to be able to 
deliver quickly. I think that there is also a backlog from 
COVID and the impacts that our own private sector and 
industries had to take, and being able to not be a year or 2 
years behind delivery. Again, we do not need a lot in this 
region. A little goes a long way. When we are talking about one 
country needing one King Air 250 maritime patrol aircraft or 
four coastal patrol vessels or six helos, we are talking about 
something that is not that large but that they need to get 
after the transnational criminal organizations, the malign 
activity that occurs in their countries. Then that impacts, 
provides some stability. It curbs irregular migration. It keeps 
the flow down if our partner nations can provide that security 
and stability for their countries.
    Senator Budd. Thank you for that.
    General VanHerck, again thank you for being here as well. 
The North Carolina National Guard currently has personnel 
mobilized to the southern border in support of CBP, Customs and 
Border Patrol. We are very proud of them and we want to make 
sure our troops have all the resources they need to help secure 
the border.
    Are there additional resources we could provide that would 
make the southwest border deployment more effective?
    General VanHerck. Senator, I am comfortable with the 
resources I have based on the mission and authorities I have 
right now.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. So nothing else needed? They have 
everything they needed?
    General VanHerck. Their commanders have not asked for 
anything to me. They are working for me in their Title 10 
mobilization capacity and I am not aware of any asks.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. and for both of you, we know that 
illicit drugs are not the only thing being trafficked through 
your AORs and into the United States. Human trafficking is an 
all-too-common occurrence, and just this week we learned that 
groups of Chinese nationals are paying coyotes a premium to be 
smuggled across the southern border.
    From your perspectives, what is driving this humanitarian 
crisis in your respective AORs, and what resources would be 
helpful to enhance your work in countering the human 
trafficking side?
    General Richardson first.
    General Richardson. So I would say the security cooperation 
funding is my main lever, Senator, and that really empowers the 
partner nation militaries and their security forces to be able 
to handle that. That malign activity, as you said, is not just 
narcotics. It is human trafficking. It is illegal mining. It is 
illegal logging, illegal fishing. It is counterfeit goods. It 
is the whole money laundering piece. They are more powerful, 
they are more sophisticated, they are corrupt, and they drive 
violence and irregular migration, and strengthening our partner 
nations to be able to handle that is what makes them stronger 
and then generally ends up helping us in the Homeland, where 
those malign activities do not end up on our southwest border.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. General VanHerck?
    General VanHerck. Yes, thank you. So the problems, I call 
the symptoms. It is the human trafficking, migration, those 
kinds of things, are driven by an instability created by 
transnational criminal organizations. If you do not want your 
family to live within that environment you are going to try to 
get out, and you are willing to pay whatever it is to get out 
of there. That is part of their business model.
    I would also say natural disasters. They have had several 
major hurricanes in Mexico and Central America within the last 
few years, and also COVID. That created an environment where 
folks who wanton leave, and they want to come to the United 
States, and transnational criminal organizations are seizing on 
that opportunity as part of their business model.
    We will not interdict our way out. This requires a strategy 
to go after transnational criminal organizations. We know how 
to do this as a nation--cut off the funding, cutoff the 
weapons. Seize on those opportunities. Interdiction will not 
get us out of this problem.
    Senator Budd. Thank you both. My time has expired. Mr. 
Chairman, I will be submitting a question for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd.
    Senator Blumenthal, please.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you 
both for your service and for being here today.
    I want to focus on Russia for the moment, and particular, 
General VanHerck, the resources that you have, NORAD and 
NORTHCOM, in the Arctic area. Do you think those resources are 
sufficient to protect our national security? Should they be 
enhanced?
    General VanHerck. Senator, no, I do not think I have the 
infrastructure, the communications, the ability to respond and 
be persistent in the Arctic.
    Senator Blumenthal. What kind of additional resources do 
you think should be provided?
    General VanHerck. Yes, I would point back to the report 
that NDAA directed me to do, that I provided to Congress, that 
gives a list of the challenges that I face. I need additional 
communications capability, data and information sharing, the 
ability to be persistent, so fuel north of Dutch Harbor, 
Alaska. We need to do more research and development on 
capabilities that are going to go into the Arctic platforms to 
ensure they operate. When you send platforms into the Arctic 
and they are non-functioning, that is a concern for me. I can 
talk more in a classified environment.
    The infrastructure is the biggest concern. So in a layered 
defense concept I need to have forces forward. That would 
include at Thule, Greenland, in Canada as well. So NORAD in 
Canada has to be part of this discussion as well. We need 
persistence. That requires icebreakers. We, as a Nation, are in 
a bad shape when it comes to icebreakers, and I fully support 
the Coast Guard's plan. We need to go faster.
    Senator Blumenthal. The Coast Guard needs more icebreakers 
in that area. Do you agree?
    General VanHerck. I do agree.
    Senator Blumenthal. General, have you seen any effect in 
terms of the Russian resources or threat as a result of the 
Ukrainian operation?
    General VanHerck. So I am not aware of any direct kinetic 
threat to the Homeland. We continue to monitor the cyber 
domain, and especially through their proxy actors. I can talk 
in a classified environment. I am most concerned about that 
cyber domain. I would point out that while Russia appears to be 
a failure in the land domain in Ukraine they still maintain 
significant strategic capabilities to hold our Homeland at 
risk, and we have seen them just as active, actually more 
active globally, to include in the NORTHCOM AOL, such as 
sailing the Gorshkov with hypersonic missiles just a couple of 
months ago, through my AOR and into General Richardson's AOR, 
and more persistent submarine activities that can hold our 
Nation at risk.
    Senator Blumenthal. Let me ask you both, maybe beginning 
with General Richardson, the Wagner Group has been very active 
in Ukraine. It has been very active in Africa. Have you seen 
any evidence of its malign activities in your command?
    General Richardson. Russian malign activity is alive and 
well in SOUTHCOM, and in my statement I talked about the 
disinformation campaign. Over 31 million followers now on 
Russia Today Espanol and Sputnik Mundo. They do not play by the 
rules. They do not have any rules, and they pose journalists to 
be legitimate journalists. They are not. Twitter bots are off 
the charts, and these especially increase right before 
elections in our partner nations. It is very concerning, but it 
is very much alive and well with Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela 
that Russia continues to keep their alliances with.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you for that. That is very 
helpful, and do they operate also through proxies, like the 
Wagner Group?
    General Richardson. Yes, Senator, they do.
    Senator Blumenthal. In your command, General VanHerck, what 
have you seen?
    General VanHerck. Russia is active. As you know, the 
Mexican military utilizes Russian helicopters. I would love to 
see those helicopters go. They have asked, through foreign 
military sales, for options. We do not move fast enough, the 
question we got earlier about foreign military sales, to 
deliver capability to basically punt the Russians out of 
Mexico.
    I would also point out that from a space perspective that 
Russia is actively seeking, under academic and research 
facilities, access for space monitoring in my AOR as well. I 
will just leave it at that. I will talk to you more in a 
classified environment about that. But it is alive and well 
right here in the NORTHCOM and NORAD AORs.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. I agree with you about the 
helicopters, by the way. We should be providing American 
helicopters, not relying on Russian helicopters.
    General VanHerck. Yes. Can I point out one more thing?
    Senator Blumenthal. Sure.
    General VanHerck. I have been working for more than a year 
after I committed to provide radars to the Mexicans for domain 
awareness for transnational criminal organization and drug 
control. We still have not been able to donate those radars. 
The process is too slow.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you both for your 
testimony. Very informative and helpful. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Let me note that the vote has started, and recognize 
Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
thank both of the witnesses today for their outstanding service 
to our country and excellent testimony. General VanHerck, is 
this your last hearing?
    General VanHerck. It is my last hearing in front of this 
Committee. I am sure there will be others.
    Senator Sullivan. So I am sure you are sad about that.
    General VanHerck. Senator, I actually enjoy the 
opportunity. It is a great chance to tell our story. I have 
been telling it for 3 years. Recent events have brought it 
further into the light.
    Senator Sullivan. Well, I want to compliment you both, but 
I want to compliment you in particular on your career in the 
military and your outstanding work that you did over the last 
several months. It was a busy time for NORTHCOM, and I think 
you led the troops of Northern Command exceptionally well, not 
just the last couple of months but during your tenure. So thank 
you for that.
    I do want to reference--can you do a quick shout-out to the 
men and women in Alaska, their operations over the last couple 
of months and what they were doing on a regular basis, whether 
it is Chinese spy balloons or Russian Bear bombers. Just your 
thoughts, very quickly, on General Nahom and the team up there, 
including the Guard and Reserves.
    General VanHerck. Yes. Some exceptional work, not only in 
Alaska but across the Department, especially when it comes to 
the high-altitude balloon. That was Ph.D.-level employment 
tracking. But most importantly the engagement.
    That balloon went down, as you know, on the ice shelf off 
the coast of northern Alaska with limited infrastructure to 
support, and the National Guard stepped up, Tory Saxe and his 
team, and General Nahom, to do incredible work, in just 
incredibly challenging conditions, and monitoring additional 
threats to our Homeland. So I could not be more proud of the 
entire team.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you on that, and Mr. Chairman, I 
think this hearing has clearly, clearly highlighted the need 
for serious FMS reform. Senator Budd and I were in the Middle 
East on a codel with Senator Rosen, Senator Kelly, a number of 
us, and everywhere we went our allies, our military were like, 
``You have got fix FMS. It is killing us.'' So I think that is 
something we need to be looking at hard during this NDAA.
    General VanHerck, can you briefly touch on the highlighted 
challenges of domain awareness? You have been talking about 
this for 3 years, but I think the Chinese spy balloon and other 
recent activities have really driven home what you have been 
talking about, and how we need to do it more rapidly and in a 
timely manner.
    General VanHerck. Yes. So the bottom line, Senator, is if 
you cannot detect something, you cannot defeat it, and you 
certainly cannot deter, and so what has happened since Shock 
and Awe. Our operations in the Middle East, is Russia and 
China, particularly, have developed capabilities to hold our 
Homeland at risk, to reduce our decision space, delay and 
disrupt our flow. My challenge is to detect those capabilities.
    We have assumed, for decades, that the Homeland is a safe 
and secure environment, two moats on each side, friendly 
nations on each side. That model is gone, and my ability to 
detect those threats, whether they be undersea to on orbit and 
in cyberspace has not kept pace with the threat. That reduces 
decision space for our Nation's senior leader, it erodes 
strategic stability, and increases the risk of strategic 
deterrence failures.
    Senator Sullivan. Let me ask you, it is a multi-part 
question and I would like you to answer it in the time I have 
left. I have appreciated Senators Peters, King, Tuberville, 
Blumenthal all raising the issues of the Arctic and your 
ability to currently monitor and respond to threats against the 
Homeland, specifically in the Arctic.
    Now can you also explain why the Arctic, why the Alaska 
avenues of approach are so important, not just to Alaska--we 
want to protect the great State of Alaska, my state--but we 
also recognize, and you recognize, that Alaska often is the 
avenue of approach with our adversaries' weapons systems to 
attack the Lower 48, if they were going to do that, whether 
that is Chicago, Miami, or New York.
    So could you explain a little bit on the issue of what you 
need more in the Arctic--I appreciate your leadership on this--
and the domain awareness issues that relate to the importance 
of those assets in Alaska, not just for Alaska but for the 
whole country.
    General VanHerck. Yes, Senator. So Alaska may be the most 
strategic location on the planet.
    Senator Sullivan. I think I have said that a few times 
before here, Mr. Chairman. That is Billy Mitchell's famous 
quote. Correct?
    General VanHerck. It is. So deploying from Alaska, short to 
the Indo-Pacific, short to the Yukon AOR, shortest avenue 
approach for ballistic missiles from Russia, potentially China 
and DPRK to our Homeland.
    You know, allowing China and Russia to move forward with 
putting ballistic missile submarines, due to the ice now 
receding, in close proximity to Alaska and our Homeland, 
seriously erodes my ability to provide adequate threat warning, 
capabilities, domain awareness. So I hope the Air Force comes 
forward with an unfunded request to accelerate the Wedgetail. 
The AWACS is worn out. We need a Wedgetail, and we need it much 
faster, so I can monitor things in the Arctic as well.
    The communication capabilities, I hope that terminals are 
funded for SpaceX, Starlink capabilities to give us the domain 
awareness, and that we accelerate over-the-horizon radar, and 
then more broadly think about globally integrated air and 
missile defense, which would include sensors in Alaska, 
strategic sensors in Alaska. We need to get long-range, 
discriminating radar online sooner and utilize that data better 
for deterrence purposes but if required, defeat purposes.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thanks again to both of you, and 
again, General, thank you for your outstanding service to our 
country for decades. We very much appreciate you here on this 
Committee.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    General VanHerck, General Richardson, thank you for your 
outstanding testimony today.
    We have a vote on so we will vote, but I would announce 
that we will reconvene in approximately 15 minutes in SV-217 
for the closed session.
    With that I will adjourn the open session, and thank you 
both.
    [Whereupon, at 11:44 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                  transnational criminal organizations
    1. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck and General Richardson, would 
labeling drug cartels in your respective regions as foreign terrorist 
organizations support your operations? Please explain the benefits or 
negative consequences of such a designation.
    General VanHerck. I assess that designating the drug cartels within 
my Area of Responsibility as Foreign Terrorist Organizations would be 
of negligible benefit, if any. With specific regard to USNORTHCOM 
support to interagency and international partners, I defer to the State 
Department for further discussion on FTO designations in accordance 
with Section 219 of the Immigration and Nationality Act.
    General Richardson. Labeling drug cartels in the USSOUTHCOM AOR as 
foreign terrorist organizations (FTOs) would be of small consequence to 
operations in the USSOUTHCOM AOR. It would blur the line between 
traditional criminal enterprises and terrorist organizations. The drug 
cartels are criminal organizations driven by money while terrorists are 
driven by ideology. There is also a potential for concerns from 
impacted partner nations because the United States would be labeling a 
drug cartel as a ``terrorist organization'' which that partner nation 
views as an internal criminal enterprise/organization. I defer to the 
Department of State, which owns the authority to make this designation, 
on how it might impact other United States Government efforts to 
counter drug cartels.
                          security cooperation
    2. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck and General Richardson, 
security cooperation with our allies and partners is crucial in the 
fight against illicit activities. One proven method to build partner 
capacity is through the legal sale of United States made weapons to 
vetted foreign militaries and law enforcement, such as the recent sale 
of rifles and pistols to the Mexican Navy and Marines. How do you view 
the importance of United States material being provided--in terms of 
building partner capacity and influence--instead of material sold by 
foreign governments that do not share our moral values?
    General VanHerck. The timely provision of U.S. material and support 
is critically important as we seek to enhance the institutional 
capacity of our military partners. This, in turn, serves to limit our 
competitors' influence in the region.
    General Richardson. Our Foreign Military Sales (FMS) play a 
significant role in U.S. Security Cooperation and is a way to achieve 
our diplomatic and defense strategic objectives. The strength of our 
programs compared with malign global competitors is our enduring 
partnership to develop military capabilities and institutions with the 
full spectrum of lifecycle management disciplines. This includes 
strategy and doctrine, interoperability, personnel and administration, 
logistics and infrastructure, and systems and institutions. Our malign 
global competitors do not invest in holistic approaches to build 
enduring capabilities, rather they exploit investments to advance 
malign interests. In contrast, the long-term nature of our FMS sales 
helps us maintain strong partnerships with countries to emphasize the 
importance of democratic values such as rule of law and respect for 
human rights.

    3. Senator Shaheen. General Richardson, what can your respective 
commands do to ensure these partnership activities are continued?
    General VanHerck. Responsiveness to USNORTHCOM's partners' 
validated requests is a key element in maintaining the growing 
activities with the Mexican military. The current system whereby we 
provide support is antiquated and slow. There would be significant 
benefit in streamlining the process across the whole-of-government to 
move faster and provide more timely support.
    General Richardson. The access and presence of our Security 
Cooperation Personnel in our embassies throughout the USSOUTHCOM AOR 
are the vanguards of these partnerships but we need sufficient 
resources to stay engaged. A little goes a long way in this region, and 
we must be present via the broad spectrum of Security Cooperation 
programs at our required resourcing levels, including:
      Train and Equip Programs (Sec. 333, Sec. 8068, Foreign 
Military Financing, Global Peace Operations Initiative)
      Ministerial Level Advising (Logistics, Cyber, Budgeting, 
Human Rights)
      Transfers of U.S. Origin Defense Articles and Services 
(Near Coastal Patrol Vessels, Jeep J8s, Maritime Patrol Aircrafts) via 
the FMS process
      Exercises (PANAMAX, RESOLUTE SENTINEL, TRADEWINDS)

    4. Senator Shaheen. General VanHerck and General Richardson, when 
foreign governments that do not share our moral values provide security 
cooperation and material to local governments in your region, how does 
that impact stability and influence in those countries?
    General VanHerck. Revisionist and revanchist powers seek to gain 
footholds throughout the hemisphere. If provided the time and space to 
operate, they may be capable of buying some influence and access to the 
region. USNORTHCOM's ongoing Security Cooperation engagements are vital 
to limiting competitor influence throughout the AOR.
    General Richardson. The People's Republic of China (PRC) has 
significantly increased its outreach and activities in the Western 
Hemisphere, with 21 of 31 nations in the USSOUTHCOM AOR having joined 
the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). The non-transparent nature of PRC 
``investment'' in the region leads to debt-traps and corruption that 
can break down democratic values in the region. This is true of 
security assistance, as well as infrastructure projects by the PRC that 
are all aimed at increasing PRC influence close to our Homeland. These 
actions have the potential to destabilize the region and erode the 
fundamental conditions needed for quality private sector investment. 
This in turn disrupts legitimate economic opportunity, compromises the 
rule of law, allows malign State actors the opportunity to make inroads 
and drives irregular migration. Through military engagements and gray 
zone operations, Russia colludes with authoritarian regimes in the 
region to undermine United States influence. In the past year, Russia 
continued its military engagements with both Venezuela and Nicaragua to 
increase influence with these two nations that are destabilizing forces 
in the region.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie Hirono
                           climate resiliency
    5. Senator Hirono. General VanHerk, climate change is affecting the 
readiness of our military. Abroad, particularly in South and Central 
America, hurricanes, rising sea levels, flooding, and drought damage 
the region's health, food, and water supply destabilizing institutions 
and making your missions harder. how does climate change's effects on 
our critical infrastructure impact your ability to protect the 
Homeland?
    General VanHerck. The effects of environmental change have direct 
impacts on NORAD and USNORTHCOM's missions, planning, and 
infrastructure. For example, melting permafrost impacts construction 
and infrastructure sustainment at northern bases, while diminishing sea 
ice in the Arctic will lead to increased competition and drive 
requirements for increased sustainable presence in the region. The 
increased duration and intensity of wildfire season in the western 
United States and Canada will continue to require USNORTHCOM's support 
to civil authorities, while more powerful hurricanes have direct 
economic and readiness impacts on installations and personnel along the 
Gulf and Atlantic coasts. This reality is factored into NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM's planning and will affect the commands' operations for the 
foreseeable future.

    6. Senator Hirono. General Richardson, I have been focused on 
supporting green technologies for our own infrastructure. From your 
perspective, what types of technologies help prepare communities for 
the effects of climate change?
    General Richardson. Within the USSOUTHCOM AOR, our partner nations 
face a wide variety of transboundary challenges, to include natural 
disasters such as water shortages in Paraguay and Uruguay, flooding in 
Ecuador and Honduras, wildfires throughout Chile, the dry corridor that 
runs through Central America, and significant risk from sea-level rise. 
Below are technologies that could help prepare for and mitigate the 
effects of climate change.
    Freshwater production and storage capability and drought resistant 
crops: With changing climate patterns, emerging areas of increased dry 
days resulting in drought conditions will affect reservoir levels and 
access to water for drinking and crop production. Island nations may 
see an increase in saltwater intrusion into freshwater drinking 
supplies due to an increase in demand for freshwater and an increase in 
sea-level. The ability to produce or capture freshwater and store it is 
essential for agricultural. When used with additional means of 
freshwater storage, drought resistant crops may also allow agricultural 
areas to remain viable instead of relocating. One area in the 
USSOUTHCOM AOR that is experiencing significant drought is the ``dry 
region'' that extends through El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and 
Nicaragua. Over the last 3 decades, drought in this region has resulted 
in an approximate loss of $5 billion dollars in the agricultural 
sector. This is a major factor that results in food insecurity and 
irregular migration.
    Early warning systems: The ability to provide advanced warning for 
environmental impacts such as severe storms, flash floods, volcanic 
eruptions, and tsunamis is critical to protect the population. Some 
severe storms such as tropical cyclones allow forecasting days in 
advance and allow early warning to populations through media or word of 
mouth. Quick onset events that give minute to hour forecast windows 
require additional warning systems such as sirens or alarms that don't 
require a media source to inform the population.

                            illegal fishing
    7. Senator Hirono. General Richardson, your Command is at the 
forefront combating illegal fishing. This maritime crime is depleting 
fish stocks worldwide, contributing to food insecurity. In the Pacific 
I certainly have heard from our allies and partners, like the Compact 
of Freely Associated States, that this is a pressing issue made only 
worse by climate change. In your engagements with our partners, what 
lessons have you learned from your efforts to combat illegal fishing 
that can be applied worldwide?
    General Richardson. Engagement and information sharing with Allies 
and partners has informed our understanding of the environment and the 
threat posed to the region from illegal fishing. The ability to quickly 
share unclassified information with partner nations as well as with 
interagency and NGO partners has been especially critical to countering 
this threat. USSOUTHCOM utilizes our Enhanced Domain Awareness (EDA) 
platform to illuminate IUUF activity, trends, and patterns in 
USSOUTHCOM's AOR and mitigate these vessels' attempts to evade 
detection. Our IUUF dashboard within EDA fuses commercial GEOINT, 
academic and NGO data, and publicly available information to provide 
allies and partners with near real-time awareness of IUUF, improving 
their ability to respond to the growing number of Chinese fishing 
vessels conducting these malign activities (over 1,000 as of June 
2023).
    Beijing subsidizes the Chinese distant water fleet (DWF), which 
almost certainly facilitates the DWF's expansion, helps address China's 
domestic food needs, and generates revenue for its domestic fishing 
industry. These subsidies include oil, preferential loans, and tax 
breaks that pay for construction and equipment procurement as well as 
covering insurance premiums and vessel decommissioning costs. Beijing 
provides the DWF with satellite imagery and research vessels to 
facilitate the fleet's efforts to locate fish stocks. China's DWF also 
uses government-subsidized supply ships and oilers to sustain itself at 
sea for several years without a port call, ensuring a continuous 
fishging cycle that facilitates year-round fish transshipment for the 
Chinese market. The DWF trawls the edge of the countries' Exclusive 
Economic Zones (EEZ), operating legally in international waters. The 
vessels regularly switch off their automatic identification systems 
(AIS), which broadcasts the ship's identity and position, likely to 
fish undetected in the EEZ. With the transponder disabled, the fishing 
vessels appear to go dark, preventing law enforcement tracking.
                 humanitarian aid and disaster response
    8. Senator Hirono. General Richardson, Latin America and the 
Caribbean are particularly vulnerable to extreme natural disasters. An 
important pillar of our Nation's response for humanitarian crises is 
the Marine Corp embarked on amphibious ships, like the Landing Platform 
Dock. What will the impact be in your area of responsibility if the 
Marine Corp does not have the ships it needs to deploy in a timely 
fashion to give humanitarian aid in the event of a crisis?
    General Richardson. In our area of responsibility, the presence of 
United States Marines embarked aboard amphibious warfare ships 
physically demonstrates America's commitment to our Latin American and 
Caribbean partners. 29 of 31 regional countries are connected to the 
maritime domain; moreover, a majority of the region's 500 million 
inhabitants occupy littorals that surround or partially frame national 
borders. U.S. Marines have a long history of operating from the sea and 
conducting humanitarian assistance operations in the littorals. Two 
recent examples include timely response to Hurricanes Matthew in 2016 
aboard the USS Mesa Verde (LPD-19), and Maria in 2017 aboard the USS 
Wasp (LHD-1), USS Kearsarge (LHD-3), and USS Oak Hill (LSD-51). Without 
these amphibious warfare ships, USSOUTHCOM's response would have been 
limited in capacity and capability.
    In addition to providing emergency aid for natural disasters and 
other crises, the episodic presence of amphibious ships deters Malign 
State Actors (MSAs) who are actively establishing footholds in the 
Western Hemisphere. Lack of U.S. presence degrades and imperils partner 
nation trust--a dangerous circumstance that MSAs can exploit by filling 
voids created by inadequate numbers of U.S. amphibious ships.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    9. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, do you agree 
that if funding is needed for a project, it should be a part of the 
command/service budget?
    General VanHerck. Yes, NORAD & U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) 
follow the budget process directed by the Department of Defense (DOD) 
and Congress and identifies priorities for inclusion in the annual 
budget process. The Fiscal Year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act 
requires Combatant Commands to submit an Unfunded Priority List (10 USC 
222a). As a Combatant Command with no assigned forces and no 
acquisition authority, NORAD & USNORTHCOM rely on the military Services 
for most resourcing. The Unfunded Priority List allows us to inform the 
Department of Defense and Congress of our mission-critical capabilities 
not resourced by the Services.
    General Richardson. Yes, I do agree. The UPL process offers an 
opportunity to address emerging priorities that arise after the budget 
process closes to meet the evolving dynamic environment in my AOR. As a 
combatant commander, I am reliant on the Services and ultimately the 
Department of Defense to fund my priorities. In accordance with the law 
established in the fiscal year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act 
(10 USC 222a), I submitted to Congress those mission-critical 
priorities that remain unfunded through the regular budget process.

    10. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, historically, 
have previous Unfunded Priorities Lists items been included in the 
following year's base budget? Have Unfunded Priorities Lists items from 
fiscal year 2023 been included in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If 
yes, please provide detail including the requested item, funding 
amount, and vendor executing the effort. If no, why not?
    General VanHerck. In general, requests on prior NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM Unfunded Priority Lists (UPL) have not been included in 
subsequent year base budgets. Those requests not included in the 
subsequent year base budget are generally out-prioritized for 
Department resources. However, the USNORTHCOM fiscal year 2023 UPL had 
two requests that were not appropriated in fiscal year 2023, but were 
included in the Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget Request:
        The fiscal year 2023 UPL included a request for $29.8 million 
        to resource NORAD and USNORTHCOM Joint Operations Center (JOC) 
        modernization. The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes 
        $29.5 million for JOC modernization. The requested funding will 
        procure and install components to support ingesting, 
        aggregating, processing, displaying, and disseminating data. If 
        authorized and appropriated by Congress, NORAD and USNORTHCOM 
        will utilize the Naval Information Warfare Center for purchase 
        and installation of required components. Components will be 
        purchased through Government Services Administration-authorized 
        vendors that have not yet been identified.
        The fiscal year 2023 UPL also included a request for $50.87 
        million to resource a Cruise Missile Defense of the Homeland 
        demonstration. The request included sensor procurement, fire-
        control integration, testing, and a live-fire demonstration. 
        The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes $14.5 million 
        to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition 
        and Sustainment to begin procuring an elevated sensor; and $5 
        million to the Department of the Army to begin fire-control 
        integration. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are not directly involved in 
        the obligation of this funding; the vendor(s) will be selected 
        by lead agency.
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM works with the Army as our Combatant 
Command Support Agent (CCSA), the other Services, the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense, Defense Agencies, and the Joint Staff to include 
enduring Unfunded Priorities in subsequent year funding. Occasionally, 
these priorities are resourced.

                information on unfunded priorities lists
    11. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what was the 
cost of putting together this wish list?
    General VanHerck. Development of the Unfunded Priority List is part 
of our annual research and budget analysis activity and has no 
additional cost.
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM did not incur additional expense to 
put together the unfunded priorities list since the list is simply a 
compilation of the Command's already existing resource requirements 
that are compiled as part of a core staff function.

    For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in 
response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:

    12. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is the 
description of this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General VanHerck. A description of my unfunded priority list 
follows:
    (1) Arctic Capable Pre]positioned Shelters ($10 million): Funds 
requested will support RDT&E efforts to design expeditionary base camp 
systems capable of providing life support, mission command, critical 
asset storage and large area maintenance shelter (LAMS) capability in 
an Arctic environment at temperatures as low as -65F. Requested funds 
will enable continued system modification, augmentation, and testing at 
the U.S. Army Engineer Research and Development Center (ERDC) Arctic 
Infrastructure Research Center in Fairbanks, Alaska to ensure the 
ability to operate in extreme Arctic conditions.
    Explanation: Existing expeditionary shelters in Army Prepositioned 
Stocks can operate at temperatures as low as -25F. The most recent 
research and development efforts have demonstrated Arctic modifications 
that increase performance capability to temperatures as low as -40F. 
The requested funds ($4.5 million) enable RDT&E in support of base camp 
equipment capable of operations at temperatures as low as -65F in 
cooperation with the ERDC Arctic Infrastructure Research Center. 
Current LAMS capability in prepositioned stocks can operate at 
temperatures as low as -20F but require a temperature of +25F to set 
up. The requested funds ($5.5 million) enable the Air Force Civil 
Engineer Center in cooperation with the ERDC Arctic Infrastructure 
Research Center to conduct RDT&E in support of LAMS capable of 
operations at temperatures as low as -65F. The National Defense 
Strategy (NDS) notes that the United States seeks a secure and stable 
Arctic region. Developing equipment that enables campaigning in the 
harsh Arctic environment reduces risk in the Department of Defense 
(DOD) to generate and deploy forces to the region if needed to support 
on-going stability.
    (2) Counter Strategic Competitors in the Western Hemisphere ($5.2 
million): Requested funds will enable DOD/USNORTHCOM to support 
expanded intelligence and aerial & land detection and monitoring 
capabilities for United States Federal Law Enforcement Agencies and the 
Mexican Military. These capabilities will better position lead 
agencies, as part of a whole-of-government approach, to reduce the 
threat to the Homeland from transnational criminal organizations and 
deter Strategic Competitors in the Western Hemisphere, and particularly 
in Mexico.
    Explanation: USNORTHCOM's relationships with Allies and partners 
support integrated deterrence by using additional tools at the 
Department's disposal to deter competitors and potential adversaries 
from aggression and undue influence. DOD's alignment of counter 
transnational criminal organization policies, investments, and 
activities sustain and strengthen deterrence by reinforcing the United 
States as the partner of first choice.
    Increasing air and land domain awareness in the approaches to the 
Homeland directly supports deterrence by denial as noted in the NDS by 
maintaining our ability to advance U.S. national interests.
    (3) Arctic Campaigning ($7.0 million): Funds requested will support 
infrastructure improvement efforts at Pituffik Space Base (Thule, 
Greenland). Pituffik SFB is the DOD's northernmost military 
installation and the only installation north of the Arctic Circle. The 
existing base infrastructure requires significant restoration and 
improvements to withstand the harsh environmental conditions of the 
region and support campaigning.
    Explanation: USNORTHCOM and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers 
(USACE) have worked together to define project requirements at Pituffik 
SFB to enhance support for Arctic operations. Posturing defensive 
forces forward, while actively campaigning, enables improved response 
time and longer ``flying time on-station'' to deter competitors and 
mitigate threats to the Homeland.
    USACE will conduct geotechnical and topographic surveys at Pituffik 
SFB to ensure appropriate design for infrastructure restoration/
construction and airfield pavement sites. The presence of permafrost 
drives special foundation design to avoid future melting of permafrost 
and severe settling of infrastructure floors ($1 million). USACE will 
design projects to repair two non-serviceable hangars. One 
environmentally controlled hangar will meet requirements to accommodate 
Personnel Recovery aircraft and personnel on alert status; and the 
other will serve as a facility for large aircraft maintenance and 
maintenance administrative spaces ($6.0 million).
    (4) Over the Horizon Radar (OTHR) Capability Acceleration ($55 
million): The funds requested will procure a testbed and fund RDT&E to 
integrate OTHR with space-based sensors.
    Explanation: Funding will procure a replacement test asset ($20 
million) to conduct wintertime atmospheric study and assess hardening 
issues. The collected data will better characterize impacts of Auroral 
clutter and identify strategies to mitigate impacts for northern-
looking High Frequency (HF) radars. The existing test set is currently 
supporting real world operations and is expected to do so for an 
extended time period. RDT&E efforts to integrate OTHR with MDA space 
sensors and systems ($35 million) supports improving early warning and 
tracking of challenging threats, addressing gaps for both Space and 
OTHR systems. Funding would purchase backend servers at 2 sites and the 
required software development. Aligned with the NDS, domain awareness 
reduces risk and aids in escalation management. Additionally, in the 
event of crisis, globally integrated domain awareness capabilities 
increase warning and allow for flexible decisionmaking to respond, as 
necessary.
    (5) Domain Awareness Technology Development ($9.75 million): The 
funds requested will provide for a demonstration of Cryogenic 
Exploitation of Radio Frequency (CERF) sensor technology in an 
operational environment (Alaska).
    Explanation: The CERF prototype provides an ultra-wide band passive 
sensor that contributes to all domain awareness for USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD Homeland Defense missions. The system leverages Intelligence 
Community (IC) investments to provide operational indication and 
warning of potential threats by means of RF transmissions. Funding 
would enable deployment planning, transportation, sensor installation, 
communications architecture, and sensor demonstration as well as sensor 
employment in an operationally relevant environment (Alaska). The 
communications architecture will provide domain awareness data to 
existing exploitation systems. The National Security Agency's 
Warfighter Integration Program and Tactical Investment Portfolio 
program managers in Y1432 will execute funding. Additional details and 
applications are available at higher classification levels. Aligned 
with the NDS, domain awareness reduces risk and aids in escalation 
management. Additionally, in the event of crisis, globally integrated 
domain awareness capabilities increase warning and allow for flexible 
decisionmaking to respond, as necessary.
    (6) ARCHER ($27 million): The funds requested will advance air 
domain awareness capabilities by completing the planned ARCHER fielding 
in Alaska and provide RDT&E funding required to deploy ARCHER well 
north of the Arctic Circle.
    Explanation: ARCHER is a passive sensor that contributes to all 
domain awareness for USNORTHCOM and NORAD Homeland Defense. The systems 
leverage commercial-off-the-shelf technology within an Air Force TENCAP 
rapid acquisition effort. There are currently 21 of 35 planned systems 
in Alaska. The requested funding would transition ARCHER from the rapid 
acquisition process into the long-term sustainment process ($17 
million). The funding request also includes RDT&E to develop improved 
system shelters ($2.5 million), communications pathways ($2.5 million), 
and upgraded geolocation software ($5 million) to enable deployment of 
ARCHER systems into remote Arctic locations further north than the 
current North Warning System.
    Aligned with the NDS, domain awareness reduces risk and aids in 
escalation management. Additionally, in the event of crisis, globally 
integrated domain awareness capabilities increase warning and allow for 
flexible decisionmaking to respond, as necessary.
    (7) Three-Dimensional Expeditionary Long Range Radars (3DELLR) 
($211.SM): The funds requested will procure nine (9) 3DELLR's to fill 
surveillance gaps caused by existing radar failures.
    Explanation: Current long range radars fielded in the 1980's reach 
the end of program life in 2025 and will begin to fail at increasing 
rates. These radars include 45 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
Air Route Surveillance Radars (ARSR-4) ringing CONUS, 14 (FPS-117) 
radars at the North Warning System and 15 in the Alaska Radar System. 
Procuring 3DELLR systems enable deploying a gap filler capability when 
existing radar systems cannot be repaired in a timely manner. 
Additionally, 3DELLR can be used to defend critical infrastructure as 
required. There is no current Program of Record to replace the existing 
radars, making 3DELLR the only option to maintain required domain 
awareness for Homeland Defense.
    Increasing air domain awareness in the approaches to the Homeland 
directly support deterrence by denial as noted in the NDS. Further, 
this capability is a risk mitigation in defending the Homeland-the 
number one NDS priority.
    (8) Modernize Homeland Defense Communications System (HDCS) 
Infrastructure ($4.2 million): The funds requested will enable 
procurement and sustainment of infrastructure and technology updates 
for 61 radio sites; and the Eastern Air Defense Sector and Western Air 
Defense Sector that supports access to 386 radars. The investment will 
mitigate risk-to-mission from equipment facing accelerated end-of-life 
timelines.
    Explanation: Hardware and software upgrades at each site are 
required for sensor data access and transport, communications 
transmission, and information sharing enabling aircraft scramble 
capability, cyber security needs, and Domain Awarene]ss for Homeland 
Defense, POTUS travel, and National Security Special Events. Air domain 
awareness in the interior and approaches to the Homeland directly 
support deterrence by denial as noted in the NDS. Further, this 
capability is a risk mitigation in defending the Homeland-the number 
one NDS priority.
    (9) Modernize NCR Domain Awareness [Enhanced Regional Situational 
Awareness (ERSA)] ($33.21 million): The funds requested will modernize 
the legacy standard definition ERSA camera system in and around the 
National Capital Region (NCR) with high-definition systems.
    Explanation: The ERSA camera system includes 21 electro optical/
infrared cameras and 8 visual warning systems. The standard-definition 
cameras are designed to provide a timely and accurate local air picture 
of low altitude, slow-and fast-moving aircraft that pose particular 
identification problems within the NCR. Replacing the standard 
definition with high-resolution cameras will provide a better visual 
identification and characterization solution and be more cost effective 
than sustaining the legacy cameras (with limited capabilities) and 
scrambling United States Coast Guard helicopters and/or USAF fighters 
to investigate and visually identify tracks of interest. Increasing air 
domain awareness in the approaches to the Homeland directly support 
deterrence by denial as noted in the NDS. Further, this capability is a 
risk mitigation in defending the Homeland-the number one NDS priority.
    (10) Core Technology Investment ($13.85 million): The requested 
funds will enable procurement and installation of hardware and data 
transmission technologies that support data sharing and collaboration 
to enhance domain awareness and information dominance. Component 
modernization will address shortfalls in Unclassified, Secret, and 
Nuclear Command, Control, and Communications (NC3) networks.
    Explanation: Rapid and agile communications infrastructure increase 
the capability to see, understand, and share information that increases 
the decision space for senior leaders. Specific investments will 
address the NC3 network ($1.1 million); video teleconference 
deficiencies ($2.25 million); the transition of the unclassified 
telephone system to modem Voice Over Internet Protocol
    (VOiP) technologies ($4.6 million); and deficient network servers, 
fiber optic systems, and encryption devices ($5.9 million). Improving 
domain awareness and information dominance support increased global 
integration--the foundational elements to integrated deterrence. 
Funding this request will reduce risk in the NOS priority to defend the 
Homeland.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, provides 
a narrative description for each requirement. Please see our UPL for 
this information, which is attached as an enclosure for your 
convenience. [The attachment has been retained in Committee files.]

    13. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what does the 
Unfunded Priorities Lists purchase? (Include all end items with 
quantities, contractor Full Time Equivalent, etc.)
    General VanHerck. Please see response to question #12.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, provides 
detailed information for each requirement. Please see our UPL for this 
information, which is attached as an enclosure for your convenience. As 
a clarifying detail on UPL requirement #3 (Cyber Domain Awareness/
Network Interoperability), the funding requested will provide 30 
contractor full time equivalents to run three shifts and maintain a 24/
7/365 network cyber operations support center that is required by 
USCYBERCOM EXORD. [The attachment has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    14. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what specific 
capability will the Unfunded Priorities Lists provide?
    General VanHerck. My submitted Unfunded Priority List, in 
accordance with 10 USC 222a, is intended to provide a range of mission-
critical capabilities not funded within the military Services base 
budget, thereby buying down risk to force and risk to mission.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, provides 
a description of the capability for each requirement. Please see our 
UPL for this information, which is attached as an enclosure for your 
convenience. [The attachment has been retained in Committee files.]

    15. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what gap will 
this fill that is not in the base budget?
    General VanHerck. Please see response to question #12.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, provides 
information on impact if not funded for each requirement. Please see 
our UPL for this information, which is attached as an enclosure for 
your convenience. [The attachment has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    16. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, how will this 
capability support objectives outlined in current National Security, 
Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General VanHerck. The Unfunded Priority List serves to enhance 
NORAD & United States Northern Command's support of the objectives 
outlined in the United States National Security Strategy, National 
Military Strategy and National Defense Strategy. Defending the homeland 
is the #1 priority of the National Defense Strategy and the National 
Military Strategy; the systems, programs and capabilities identified in 
the NORAD & USNORTHCOM Unfunded Priorities List all serve to address 
this. Furthermore, as the DOD Arctic Capability Advocate, I am 
designated to coordinate with other Combatant Commands, the Military 
Services and Defense Agencies to ensure that Arctic capability gaps are 
identified and prioritized. Arctic related N&NC Unfunded Priority List 
items are submitted in accordance with this designation.
    General Richardson. The NSS states ``no region impacts the United 
States more directly than the Western Hemisphere.'' Presence and 
proximity absolutely matter, and a stable and secure Western Hemisphere 
is critical to homeland defense. The USSOUTHCOM UPL identifies 
requirements in Domain Awareness, Security Cooperation, Cyber Domain 
Awareness, Exercises and Partner Nation Training, Crisis Response, and 
Countering Disinformation. All items on this list are requirements that 
contribute directly to ensuring stability in our hemisphere.

    17. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is the 
operational requirement? How does this Unfunded Priorities Lists 
support current or future operations?
    General VanHerck. The response to question #12 offers a description 
of the operational requirement for each item on the NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM unfunded priority list.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, includes 
descriptions of the operational requirements and impact if not funded 
for each requirement. Please see our UPL for this information, which is 
attached as an enclosure for your convenience. [The attachment has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    18. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is the 
operational impact if this Unfunded Priorities Lists is not funded in 
fiscal year 2024?
    General VanHerck. The response to question #12 offers a description 
of the operational impact resulting from lack of funding for each item 
on the NORAD and USNORTHCOM unfunded priority list.
    General Richardson. The information provided in our UPL submission 
to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a, includes 
a description of the impact if not funded for each requirement. Please 
see our UPL for this information, which is attached as an enclosure for 
your convenience. [The attachment has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    19. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, are there 
plans to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General VanHerck. The Military Service Departments are currently 
developing their fiscal year 2025 proposals, and the combatant commands 
do not participate in those deliberations. NORAD and USNORTHCOM will 
not know if any of the requested capabilities are included in the 
fiscal year 2025 base budget until the fiscal year 2025 President's 
Budget Request is released.
    General Richardson. As USSOUTHCOM does every year, we will work 
with the Army as our Combatant Command Support Agent (CCSA), the other 
Services, OSD, Defense Agencies, and the Joint Staff to include all our 
requirements in the fiscal year 2025 budget submission.

    20. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, why was this 
Unfunded Priorities Lists not included in the Fiscal Year 2024 
President's Budget submission?
    General VanHerck. These items were submitted to the military 
Services in accordance with the Department of Defense's budget process. 
Based on internal priorities, the Services and/or the Department did 
not include these items in their Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget 
submissions.
    General Richardson. As the USSOUTHCOM Commander, it is my 
responsibility to articulate my requirements and the risk to force and 
mission if these requirements are not met. The President's Budget 
Request is ultimately determined by the President.

    21. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is the 
name of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM and NORAD do not have insight into 
potential vendors. Combatant Commands determine requirements but are 
reliant on the Services and Service Support Agencies to determine 
vendors and execute contracts.
    General Richardson. As a Combatant Command, USSOUTHCOM articulates 
the capability that is required, with no regard to specific vendors. If 
these requirements are funded, we would work with the appropriate 
acquisition authority to source the capability. For those items on the 
list that are already partially funded or active, vendor information is 
provided below:
      1b. Airborne Long-Wave Infra-red (LWIR) Hyperspectral 
Imagery (HSI) Sensor: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL); 
Smartronix Inc. (SMX)--Vendor: MAG Aerospace (MAG)--Sub-Vendor
      1c. Center for Southeast Tropical Advance Remote Sensing 
(CSTARS): Smartronix Inc. (SMX)--Vendor: University of Miami (UoM)--
Sub-Vendor
      1d. Single Aircraft Precision (SAP) High Frequency (HF) 
Direction Finding (DF) and Geolocation: Applied Signals Intelligence 
(ASI); Smartronix Inc. (SMX)--Vendor: MAG Aerospace (MAG)--Sub-Vendor
      3. Cyber Domain Awareness/Network Interoperability: 
General Dynamics Information Technology (GDIT)--prime contractor
      5. NAVSCIATTS: RMGS, Inc.
      6. The Global Prepositioning Network (also referred to as 
Maritime Prepositioning Force (MPF)) will not be executed by 
traditional vendors. It will be supported by the same enablers that 
support the GPN/MPF and will leverage them in a similar fashion but 
with alternative funding solutions (UPLs). These enablers include MSC, 
Blount Island Command, Naval Beach Group, and the Navy Expeditionary 
Logistics Support Group.
      7. Countering Disinformation: FWG, Peraton, and Digital 
Always-On

    22. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, how often has 
your command met with the vendor executing this effort?
    General VanHerck. Please see the response to question #21.
    General Richardson. For those requirements that are already 
partially funded or operational, vendor information is provided below:
      1b. LWIR-HSI: Over the last 3 years, USSOUTHCOM has 
coordinated and collaborated with LLNL regarding the development of 
this capability on an as needed basis, but not less than quarterly.
      1c. CSTARS: USSOUTHCOM interacts daily with SMX/UofM 
regarding this capability because they are executing the mission in the 
field today.
      1d. SAP-HF-DF: Over the last 5 years, USSOUTHCOM has 
coordinated and collaborated with ASI regarding the development of this 
capability on an as needed basis, but not less than quarterly.
      3. Cyber Domain Awareness/Network Interoperability: GDIT 
is the existing IT/Cyber provider for USSOUTHCOM, and as such we 
collaborate daily.
      5. NAVSCIATTS: USSOUTHCOM does not have a direct 
relationship with RMGS, Inc.
      6. The Global Prepositioning Network: MARFORSOUTH has met 
with the Crisis Response-South (CR-S) enablers (vendors) on average 
once per week since December 2022 to include regular attendance at the 
Marine Corps' Preposition Force Structure Review to convey Crisis 
Response requirements.
      7. Countering Disinformation: USSOUTHCOM staff meets with 
the vendors on a daily basis.

    23. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is your 
relationship history with this vendor?
    General VanHerck. Please see the response to question #21.
    General Richardson. I have no relationship history with these 
vendors.

    24. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, has anyone who 
formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in meetings? 
What is their name, what was their position, and when did you meet with 
them?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM do not participate in vendor 
meetings and do not track vendor representation.
    General Richardson. I am not aware of anyone who formerly worked at 
USSOUTHCOM representing these vendors in meetings. SOUTHCOM has 
processes in place to review vendor visits to ensure that each one is 
conducted in accordance with applicable Federal laws and regulations, 
whether related to the acquisition process (e.g. Competition in 
Contracting Act) or restrictions on individuals based on ethics 
restrictions, e.g. 18 U.S.C. Sec.  207.

    25. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, in which city/
State will the Unfunded Priorities Lists be executed?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM do not participate in vendor 
meetings and do not track vendor representation. I defer to the 
appropriate Service or Service Support Agency regarding locations and 
vendors.
    General Richardson. For those requirements that are already 
partially funded or operational, vendor execution information is 
provided below:
      1b. The completion/procurement of the capability would be 
executed through LLNL of Livermore, CA. The installation and 
integration onto the airframe would be executed through Smartronix, LLC 
of Hollywood, MD, and in conjunction with MAG Aerospace of Fairfax, VA.
      1c. This effort is executed through Smartronix, LLC of 
Hollywood, MD, and in conjunction with the University of Miami located 
in Coral Gables, FL.
      1d. The procurement of the capability would be executed 
through ASI in Sterling, VA. The installation and integration onto the 
airframe would be executed through Smartronix, LLC of Hollywood, MD, 
and in conjunction with MAG Aerospace of Fairfax, VA.
      3. Coral Gables, FL
      5. Stennis Space Center--Hancock County, MS
      6. MSC's Reduced Operating Status (ROS) vessel and crew 
are based out of Jacksonville, Florida. Marine Corps equipment will be 
sourced primarily from Blount Island Command located in Jacksonville, 
FL but will be globally sourced from Marine Corps holdings located at 
Marine Corps Logistics base in Albany, GA as well as from the Fleet 
Marine Forces located at Camp Lejeune in Jacksonville, NC. Navy 
enablers will be sourced primarily from Amphibious Base Coronado in San 
Diego, CA and from Cheatham Annex located in Williamsburg, VA. Marine 
Corps forces will be sourced primarily from Reserve Component units 
located across the country. As necessary, Active Component forces will 
be sourced primarily from Camp Lejeune located in Jacksonville, NC.
      7. Doral, FL

    26. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM rely on the Services and 
Service Support Agencies to select vendors and let the contract to 
deliver the required capability to meet National Defense Strategy 
objectives.
    General Richardson. The requirements that are on existing contracts 
are:
      1c. The CSTARS requirement is currently in Option Year 1 
on a General Services Administration contract. The current Period of 
Performance (PoP) runs from 24 August 2022 to 23 August 2023.
      2d. Acquisition is through a U.S. Navy Program of 
Record--I defer to the Navy.
      3. GDIT is the existing IT/Cyber provider for USSOUTHCOM.
      5. USSOUTHCOM acquires this training directly from 
NAVSCIATTS. NAVSCIATTS uses RMGS, Inc. to augment its faculty. 
USSOUTHCOM does not have a history with this contract.
      7. FWG and Peraton. Our FWG contracts started in 2019 and 
2021, our Peraton started in 2021, and our Digital Always-on contract 
is new this year.

    27. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what is the 
anticipated contract award date if the Unfunded Priorities Lists 
receives funding?
    General VanHerck. I defer to the appropriate Service or Service 
Support Agency regarding potential contract award dates.
    General Richardson. Obligation and expenditure of resources is 
highly dependent on when funds become available if Congress ultimately 
supports these requirements. My team is ready to execute these 
requirements and activities in a timely manner and within the 
authorization limits imposed by the type of funding.

    28. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, what funding 
lines are associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General VanHerck. General VanHerck Funding lines were submitted 
with our Unfunded Priorities List in accordance with 10 USC 222a.

Over the Horizon Radar Capability Acceleration
    OPAF                 P1 line 55               0102417F
    RDAF                 R1 line 158
 
Three-Dimensional Expeditionary Long Range Radars (3DELRR)
    OPAF                 P1 line 22               0207455F
ARCHER
    OPAF                 P1 line 55               0102412F
    RDAF                 R1 line 157
 
Modernize Homeland Defense Communications Systems (HDCS) Infrastructure
    OMAF                 line 10/12A              0102331F
 
Modernize NCR Domain Awareness ERSA
    OPAF                 P1 line 19               0102326F
 
Arctic Campaigning
    OMAF                 line 160/15C             0201130F
 
Arctic Capable Prepositioned Shelters
    RDA                  line 110/84              0604804A
    RDAF                                          0604617F
 
Countering Strategic Competitors in the Western Hemisphere
    OMAF                 line 440/42G             0201147F
 
Core Technology Investment
    OMAF                 line 160/15C             0201130F
 

    General Richardson. The funding lines are included in our UPL 
submission to Congress on March 21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 
222a. Please see our UPL for this information, which is attached as an 
enclosure for your convenience. [The attachment has been retained in 
Committee files.]

    29. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded 
simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each appropriation 
stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM submitted 10 items on the 
commands' fiscal year 2024 UPL. Three of the 10 requested capabilities 
included multiple appropriations: Over-the-Horizon Radar, ARCHER, and 
Arctic-Capable Prepositioned Shelters. Each appropriation funds a 
distinct and independent aspect of the requested capability, allowing 
each appropriation to stand on its own.
    General Richardson. For all but two items in the USSOUTHCOM UPL, a 
single appropriation is being requested. My second priority requirement 
within ISR (1b) would be funded by two appropriations [Procurement 
(PROC) and Operation & Maintenance (O&M)]. Due to the lead time to 
complete acquisition of the capability, it would be necessary to 
receive the PROC resources prior to the O&M; however, the O&M is 
essential to operationalize the capability in theater. Delaying the O&M 
delays the critical capabilities the Command requires. USSOUTHCOM 
continues to accept risk in this mission. One other ISR requirement 
(1d) would be funded by two appropriations [Procurement (PROC) and 
Operation & Maintenance (O&M)]. Due to a short lead time to complete 
capability and existing aircraft platforms, the funding for both 
appropriations would be needed simultaneously.

    30. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, how much was 
enacted and obligated (or expended for Research, Development, Test, & 
Evaluation) in fiscal year 2022-23 for this requirement?
    General VanHerck. The following UPL titles and parenthetical 
references will be used in questions 30 to 34:

    Over the Horizon Radar (OTHR):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $66.022 million  Fiscal Year 2023: $12.21 
        million

    Three-Dimensional Expeditionary Long Range Radar (3DELRR):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $14.49 million

    ARCHER:
        Fiscal Year 2022: $.095 million  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Modernize Homeland Defense Communication System (HDCS) 
Infrastructure:
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Modernize National Capital Region Domain Awareness--Enhanced 
Regional Situational Awareness (ERSA):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Arctic Campaigning (Campaigning):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Arctic Capable Prepositioned Shelters (Shelters):
        Fiscal Year 2022:  $0 Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Domain Awareness Technology Development--Cryogenic Exploitation of 
Radio Frequency (CERF):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Counter Strategic Competitors in the Western Hemisphere 
(Competitors):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    Core Technology Investment (CTI):
        Fiscal Year 2022: $0  Fiscal Year 2023: $0

    General Richardson. Below is information for those requirements 
that were funded in fiscal years 2022 to 2023:

      1c. In fiscal year 2022, $10 million in RDT&E was enacted 
for this requirement. No RDT&E resources were enacted or obligated for 
this requirement in fiscal year 2023.

      2c. $16 million will be funded from the enacted fiscal 
year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  8068 for Regional 
Andean Ridge Environmental Multi Domain Awareness.

      2d. Total fiscal year 2023 funding enacted for this 
initiative is $21.5. An initial $16.1 million was provided in base 
budget. An additional $5.4 million will be funded from the enacted 
fiscal year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  8068.

      2e. Total fiscal year 2023 funding enacted for this 
initiative is $3.7 million.

      2f. Total fiscal year 2023 funding for this initiative is 
$13.43 million, which will be funded from the enacted fiscal year 2023 
Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  8068.

      4a. $3.5 million will be funded from the enacted fiscal 
year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  8068 for Southern Star.

      4b. $1.2 million was obligated in fiscal year 2022 to 
conduct Keel-Billed Toucan 2022. $1.2 million was obligated in fiscal 
year 2023 to conduct Keel-Billed Toucan 2023.

    31. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, how much was 
requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General VanHerck. The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes 
resourcing as noted below:

        OTHR: The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes $553.1 
        million for the Air Force OTHR program. This funding supports 
        development, initial procurement, and planning and design for 
        future military construction. The UPL request includes funding 
        for a testbed and RDT&E to integrate OTHR data with space-based 
        sensors. These two efforts are not included in the Fiscal Year 
        2024 President's Budget Request.

        3DELRR: The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes $103.5 
        million for the Air Force program to procure three radars. The 
        NORAD and USNORTHCOM UPL requests funding for an additional 
        nine radars.

        ARCHER: The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes $.577 
        million to procure one sensor and conduct continuing RDT&E. The 
        NORAD and USNORTHCOM UPL requests funding to establish long-
        term sustainment and RDT&E to improve communication links and 
        enable deployment in Arctic regions.

        HDCS: There is no funding for this specific requirement in the 
        Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget. Sustainment funding for 
        the existing system is supported from the Global C3I & Early 
        Warning Sub-activity Group (SAG 12A)

        ERSA: $0

        Campaigning: $0

        Shelters: $0

        CERF: $0

        Competitors: $30.4 million is included in the USNORTHCOM 
        baseline allocation. The UPL includes requests for additive 
        capability not supported within baseline allocation.

        CTI: $2.4 million is included as a line item add to USNORTHCOM 
        in Air Force Operations and Maintenance Justification Books.

    General Richardson. The funding requested for fiscal year 2024 is 
included in our fiscal year 2024 UPL submission to Congress on March 
21, 2023, in accordance with 10 USC 222a. Please see our UPL for this 
information, which is attached as an enclosure for your convenience. 
[The attachment has been retained in Committee files.]

    32. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, is there a 
tail associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General VanHerck. The NORAD and USNORTHCOM methodology for 
developing requests to be included in the UPL specifically seek 
capabilities that drive minimal or no follow-on (``tail'') costs.

        OTHR: The Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E) 
        request does not have follow-on funding requirements. The OTHR 
        testbed will have some level of follow-on operations and 
        sustainment (O&S) costs that will be determined by the 
        Department of the Air Force (DAF). These costs will be funded 
        through the OTHR program.

        3DELRR: The Air Force Program Office estimates O&S costs will 
        be approximately $15 million per year if all 9 requested 
        systems are authorized and funded. This O&S cost is not 
        effective until fiscal year 2026 when the radar systems are 
        delivered, which provides ample time for NORAD and USNORTHCOM 
        to work with DAF for resource alignment.

        ARCHER: The RDT&E request does not have follow-on funding 
        requirements. The request includes $17 million specifically 
        intended to establish long-term sustainment of existing 
        capability.

        HDCS: There are no follow-on costs. The request supports a one-
        time software modernization. On-going maintenance of the 
        existing capability will be funded through the program 
        baseline.

        ERSA: There are no anticipated follow-on costs. The request 
        supports a one-time camera modernization. On-going maintenance 
        of the modernized capability will be funded through the 
        existing program baseline.

        Campaigning: There are no follow-on costs. This request 
        resources one-time facility Planning and Design work.

        Shelters: There are no follow-on costs. This request resources 
        specific RDT&E work only.

        CERF: There are no follow-on costs. This request resources 
        specific RDT&E work only.

        Competitors: There are no follow-on costs.

        CTI: There are no anticipated follow-on costs. The request 
        supports a one-time investment in technology component 
        modernization. On-going maintenance and sustainment of the 
        modernized capability will be funded through the existing 
        program baseline.

    General Richardson. All items in the UPL have funding requirements 
beyond fiscal year 2024, except item 6, the Global Prepositioning 
Network, which is a one-time cost in fiscal year 2024 until USMC 
decides to sustain this capability. No recurring expenses apply to 
USSOUTHCOM as sustainment is within USMC's budget in subsequent years 
unless the GPN is activated in response to an emerging in-theater 
crisis at which point USSOUTHCOM will use appropriate O&M funding 
mechanisms.

    33. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, is any tail 
funded in the future years defense plan?
    General VanHerck. The NORAD and USNORTHCOM methodology for 
developing requests to be included in the UPL specifically seek 
capabilities that drive minimal or no follow-on (``tail'') costs. As 
noted in question 32, the only requests that may drive future-year 
funding requirements are the OTHR testbed and 3DELRR. If funding for 
this request is authorized and appropriated by Congress, NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM will work with Department of the Air Force to develop an 
appropriate sustainment plan.
    General Richardson. No.

    34. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, please 
describe how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 
years.
    General VanHerck.

        OTHR: The Research, Development, Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E) 
        request does not have follow-on funding requirements. The OTHR 
        testbed will have some level of follow-on operations and 
        sustainment (O&S) costs that will be determined by the 
        Department of the Air Force (DAF). These costs will be funded 
        through the OTHR program.

        3DELRR: The Air Force Program Office estimates O&S costs will 
        be approximately $15 million per year if all 9 requested 
        systems are authorized and funded. This O&S cost is not 
        effective until fiscal year 2026 when the radar systems are 
        delivered, which provides ample time for NORAD and USNORTHCOM 
        to work with DAF for resource alignment.

        ARCHER: There are no additional costs per year. The system is a 
        passive sensor requiring only periodic maintenance and 
        sustainment. The request includes $17 million specifically 
        intended to establish long-term sustainment of existing 
        capability.

        HDCS: There are no follow-on costs. The request supports a one-
        time software modernization. On-going maintenance of the 
        existing capability will be funded through the program 
        baseline.

        ERSA: There are no anticipated follow-on costs. The request 
        supports a one-time camera modernization. On-going maintenance 
        of the modernized capability will be funded through the 
        existing program baseline.

        Campaigning: There are no follow-on costs. This request 
        resources one-time facility Planning and Design work.

        Shelters: There are no follow-on costs. This request resources 
        specific RDT&E work only.

        CERF: There are no follow-on costs. This request resources 
        specific RDT&E work only.

        Competitors: There are no follow-on costs.

        CTI: There are no anticipated follow-on costs. The request 
        supports a one-time investment in technology component 
        modernization. On-going maintenance and sustainment of the 
        modernized capability will be funded through the existing 
        program baseline.
    General Richardson. Below is the information for the outyear costs 
that are known or anticipated at this time:
      1a. This requirement will have a future cost; however, at 
this time that amount is unknown.
      1b. This requirement is anticipated to cost $45.5 million 
over the next 5 years.
      1c. This requirement is anticipated to cost $35.7 million 
over the next 5 years.
      1d. This requirement is anticipated to cost $0.9 million 
over the next 5 years.
      2c. This requirement is anticipated to cost $351.8 
million over the next 5 years.
      2d. This requirement is anticipated to cost $31.7 million 
over the next 5 years.
      2e. This requirement is anticipated to cost $48.6 million 
over the next 5 years.
      2f. This requirement is anticipated to cost $81.4 million 
over the next 5 years.
      2g. This requirement is anticipated to cost $1.5 million 
over the next 5 years.
      2h. This requirement will have a future cost; however, at 
this time that amount is unknown.
      2i. This requirement is anticipated to cost $64.6 million 
over the next 5 years.
      3. This requirement is anticipated to cost $93.6 million 
over the next 5 years.
      4a. This requirement is anticipated to cost $15.8 million 
over the next 5 years.
      4b. This requirement is anticipated to cost $19.5 million 
over the next 5 years.
      5. This requirement is anticipated to cost $80M over the 
next 5 years.
      6. This requirement will be funded through operational or 
disaster relief funding based on employment of the capability in year 
of execution.
      7. This requirement is anticipated to cost $17-25 million 
over the next 5 years.

    35. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, please provide 
in detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this 
requirement, including if it was in the base budget or Unfunded 
Priorities Lists.
    General VanHerck. The capabilities included in the NORAD and 
USNORTHCOM fiscal year 2024 Unfunded Priority List (UPL) were not 
included in prior UPL. The fiscal year 2022 UPL did include a request 
for $25.1 million to accelerate Over-the-Horizon Radar (OTHR) 
procurement and fielding. That funding request was enacted and the Air 
Force Program Office responsible for OTHR is obligating the funds. The 
fiscal year 2024 OTHR related request addresses new and distinct 
requirements to increase capability and further accelerate OTHR 
fielding.
    General Richardson. No resources have been enacted for UPL items 
1a, 1b, & 1d. Item 1a was submitted in USSOUTHCOM's fiscal year 2023 
UPL at $10.2 million but not funded. 1b was submitted in the fiscal 
year 2023 UPL at $9.7 million but not funded. In fiscal year 2021 ($7 
million) and fiscal year 2022 ($10 million), the CSTARS requirement was 
funded via RDT&E resources that were provided to a national government 
agency. The Paraguay Riverine Security Resilience Program (RSRP) and 
the Paraguay Special Operations Forces (SOF) requirement were both 
funded under the fiscal year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  
8068. $27.3 million was funded for Regional Andean Ridge Environmental 
Multi Domain Awareness from the enacted fiscal year 2023 Consolidated 
Appropriations Act Sec.  8068. For the Regional Caribbean Domain 
Awareness requirement, an initial $16.1 million was provided in base 
budget and an additional $5.4 million was funded via the fiscal year 
2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  8068. $3.7 million was 
enacted in the fiscal year 2023 base budget for the Jamaica SOF 
requirement. The fiscal year 2023 Consolidated Appropriations Act Sec.  
8068 also is also providing $13.43 million for the Theater Maintenance 
Partnership Program. No resources have been enacted for items 2g, 2h, 
and 2i. USSOUTHCOM has submitted the Cyber Domain Awareness/Network 
Interoperability requirement to the lead service or funding authority 
in the fiscal year 2023, 2024, 2025 budget/POM cycles. USSOUTHCOM has 
also submitted it to OSD, which directed the U.S. Army to partially 
fund it in President's Budget Request 2023 ($8.3 million) and 
President's Budget Request 2024 ($8.6 million) respectively. $3.5 
million of the funds enacted in the fiscal year 2023 Consolidated 
Appropriations Act Sec.  8068 for will fund the Southern Star Exercise. 
$1.2 million was obligated in fiscal year 2022 to conduct Keel-Billed 
Toucan 2022 (base budget). $1.2 million was obligated in fiscal year 
2023 to conduct Keel-Billed Toucan 2023 (base budget). The Countering 
Disinformation requirement was funded in fiscal year 2023 at $11 
million in the base budget. No resources have been enacted for any 
other requirements on the UPL.

    36. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, if the 
requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will that 
be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General VanHerck. The Military Service Departments are currently 
developing their fiscal year 2025 proposals and the combatant commands 
do not have visibility on those deliberations. NORAD and USNORTHCOM 
will not know if any of the requested capabilities are included in the 
fiscal year 2025 base budget until the fiscal year 2025 President's 
Budget Request is released.
    General Richardson. I commit to working with the Army as my 
Combatant Command Support Agent (CCSA), the other Services, OSD, 
Defense Agencies, and the Joint Staff to include all USSOUTHCOM 
requirements in future budget submissions.

    37. Senator Warren. General VanHerck and Richardson, please provide 
photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM rely on the Services and 
Service Support Agencies to select the vendors and let contracts to 
deliver the capability we require to meet National Defense Strategy 
objectives. I have no insight into what vendors the Services might 
select for any given contract, and therefore I do not have the ability 
to provide photos.
    General Richardson. As a Combatant Command, USSOUTHCOM outlines the 
capability required and an acquisition authority will contract or 
purchase a capability to meet that requirement. At this time, the exact 
equipment to be purchased for most of our UPL items are unknown. For 
those items where specific equipment has already been identified, we 
have included photos below:
    1c. Center for Southeast Tropical Advance Remote Sensing
    
    
      
    2c. Near Coastal Patrol Vessel
    
    
      
    2d. Utility Boat (UTB)
    
    
    2h. C-182 aircraft
    
    
      
    2i. TPS-78 Radar
    
    
      
    4a. Southern Star Exercise Support--photo from 2022 exercise
    
    
    4b. Keel-Billed Toucan 24--photo below from 2023 exercise
    
    
      
    4c. FIDAE--photo from 2022 trade and air show in Chile
    
    
      
    4d. CRUZEX--photo from 2010 exercise
    
    
    4e. TAPIO-24--photo from 2022
    
    
      
    4f. RELAMPAGO-24--photo from 2022
    
    
      
    5. NAVSCIATTS
    
    
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin III
              transnational organized crimes and fentanyl
    38. Senator Manchin. General Richardson, how are you working with 
the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low 
Intensity Conflict, who has led in the Department of Defense for the 
counternarcotic mission, to combat this epidemic?
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM personnel work with the Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity conflict 
through the Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for 
Counter-narcotics and Stabilization Policy (DASD/CNSP). DASD/CNSP 
provides continuous programmatic and policy guidance for the 
Department's counterdrug mission to all combatant commands, including 
USNORTHCOM, to implement the authorities provided by Congress, which 
enables military support to lead Federal agencies and partner nation 
law enforcement. DASD/CNSP further provides an annual budget to 
USNORTHCOM, coordinated to ensure policy and program goals are met.
    General Richardson. The Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense--
Counter Narcotics/Special Projects (CN/SP), within the Office of the 
Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low Intensity 
Conflict, is the DOD lead for CN, Counter Drug (CD), and Counter Trans-
Criminal Organizations (C-TCO). We work closely with this office as we 
develop the operational requirements to meet our statutorily directed 
mission to detect and monitor the trafficking of illegal drugs in the 
air and maritime domains throughout Latin America and the Caribbean.
                   critical infrastructure protection
    39. Senator Manchin. General VanHerck and General Richardson, what 
additional authorities or resources are you looking for that will allow 
you to better perform your duties of security our critical 
infrastructure?
    General VanHerck. I do not currently require additional authorities 
for the defense of critical infrastructure. Regarding resources, domain 
awareness is my top priority. The NORAD and USNORTHCOM Unfunded 
Priority List includes requests for an Over-the-Horizon Radar testbed 
to accelerate fielding and for procurement of nine Three-Dimensional 
Expeditionary Long Range Radars (3DELRR). The 3DELRR radars could be 
used to fill surveillance gaps in support of critical defense 
infrastructure if tasked. NORAD and USNORTHCOM have submitted a plan to 
the Department of Defense (DOD) identifying a range of options to 
defend defense critical infrastructure, and I am awaiting a DOD 
assessment of those options. I believe that policy guidance should 
expand beyond defense critical infrastructure, and NORAD and USNORTHCOM 
are working closely with the Department, the interagency, and the 
National Security Council toward that effort.
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM focuses efforts on exposing, 
illuminating, and attributing Malign State Actor (MSA) activity through 
information and intelligence sharing with the interagency and partner 
nations. For example, we work with the interagency and partner nations 
to provide assessments of partner nation infrastructure vulnerabilities 
and look for opportunities to assist interagency partners like the 
Departments of Treasury and Commerce to provide U.S. assistance to our 
partner nations with civil-military activities. These activities are 
meant to meet our partners at their need and demonstrate the U.S. 
commitment to the region, while outmaneuvering malign actors who might 
otherwise step in to capitalize on those vulnerabilities.
    It is critical for our interagency partners to be appropriately 
resourced and staffed for this mission as much of the influence fight 
takes place outside USSOUTHCOM authorities. In those areas that 
directly affect our authorities, we need more efficient vetting 
processes to be able to reduce the lag time in identifying and getting 
partner personnel into training and education programs like the 
International Military Education and Training (IMET) program. We need a 
more streamlined foreign military sales pipeline to meet the real-world 
challenges that partner nations face. We need the ability to react at 
scale to support USG messaging, counter disinformation, amplify key 
narratives, and refocus target audiences on topics of national 
security. This can only be accomplished through a multi-front campaign 
including, removal of disinformation, the timely release of messages 
that are amplified at scale, the use of third-party validators that are 
able to reinforce that narrative, the ability to offer a private/public 
alternative that is viable, and a proactive technologically advanced 
protective force that can work on partner nation infrastructure.
                    chinese activities in the region
    40. Senator Manchin. General VanHerck and General Richardson, what 
challenges do you foresee in pursuing security cooperation with these 
countries?
    General VanHerck. A challenge to USNORTHCOM security cooperation 
efforts is the mandate under 10 U.S.C. Sec.  312 that restricts how 
combatant commanders can expend funds to facilitate partner nation 
participation in Traditional Commander's Activities. For example, The 
Royal Bahamas Defence Force (RBDF) is a willing partner, and the 
Bahamian Government has made substantial investments in new ships and 
improving their military bases. 10 U.S.C. Sec.  312 requires 
``extraordinary circumstances'' for a waiver to pay for RBDF expenses 
incident to engagements that strengthen our alliance, even if it is 
more cost effective to conduct them in the United States. This 
requirement affects my ability to be a consistent and responsive 
security cooperation partner to this vital partner, and constitutes my 
biggest challenge in countering malign Chinese influence in The 
Bahamas.
    General Richardson. In this region, a small investment--whether in 
time, physical resources, funding, or collaboration--goes a long way. 
We don't have to outspend the PRC to outcompete, but we must be present 
on the field and deliver at the speed of relevance. The USSOUTHCOM 
Security Cooperation program has historically been resourced at 
approximately half of our requirement. In the fiscal year 23 
Consolidated Appropriations Act (Sec. 8068), Congress supported our 
Security Cooperation program, funding some of those requirements that 
had not previously been resourced. Further, it is critical to have a 
timely and predictable budget--continuing resolutions are disruptive to 
U.S. and partner nation efforts to defend against threats. If we don't 
have presence in the AOR, the PRC and Russia will fill the void.

    41. Senator Manchin. General VanHerck and General Richardson, while 
I recognize the challenges associated with detecting and identifying 
unmanned objects into our national airspace, could you provide as an 
update on USNORTHCOM and NORAD's efforts to identify/deconflict non-
security related activities in our airspace?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM coordinate directly with the 
FAA on a daily basis for both security and non-security activities in 
our airspace.
    General Richardson. I defer to General VanHerck on USNORTHCOM/
NORAD's efforts to identify/deconflict non-security related activities 
in U.S. airspace.
                   critical minerals in latin america
    42. Senator Manchin. General Richardson, do you assess that we are 
providing viable alternatives for partnerships with our Latin American 
partners, especially as China has taken a hit on the international 
stage due to their role in failing to contain the COVID-19 outbreak?
    General Richardson. While China did take a hit on the international 
stage due to COVID, the PRC was also first on scene within our AOR to 
deliver vaccines and support in the wake of COVID. The United States 
response was slow in this region, and I believe we have some work to do 
make up ground that we lost following the pandemic.
    Both the U.S. Government and private industry are working closely 
with our partners in the hemisphere to increase security and economic 
investment and opportunities, but we must do better. First, we must do 
a better job of taking credit for all that Team USA does, from 
providing critical life-saving aid to countries following a disaster to 
supporting construction of critical infrastructure. United States 
Federal agencies and United States-based companies already do so much 
to partner with the nations of this hemisphere, but United States 
presence and engagement is not always evident to our partners, nor our 
adversaries. Second, we must work closely with these nations to learn 
about opportunities for partnership and collaboration where our shared 
democratic values can thrive, as opposed to allowing malign State 
actors to take advantage of the needs of our partners. Specific to DOD, 
we must work with our partner nation militaries and security forces to 
ensure a secure environment where Western businesses can invest without 
concern for the corruption and insecurity brought by TCOs.

                          fisa reauthorization
    43. Senator Manchin. General VanHerck and General Richardson, what 
impact would a failure to reauthorize Title Seven have in your ability 
to assist our partners and support your efforts to defend our Nation 
against malign actors?
    General VanHerck. Without FISA Section 702, NORAD and USNORTHCOM's 
missions to defend the homeland will be impaired. FISA Section 702 has 
helped the commands to understand the strategic intentions of the 
foreign governments we are most interested in: the People's Republic of 
China (PRC), Russia, Iran, and the Democratic People's Republic of 
Korea. It allows the intelligence community to acquire communications 
of specific foreign actors overseas and use those details to identify 
and mitigate terrorist plans, cyberattacks, and foreign intelligence 
threats. In the last 2 decades, the PRC has evolved as America's 
primary geopolitical challenge while Russia continues to pose an acute 
and ongoing threat to regional security in Europe. There has also been 
a change in conflict. Cyberspace is now a battleground and 
cybersecurity has become one of our most pressing national security 
concerns. Section 702 is needed to address these evolving challenges 
and plays an important role in keeping our Nation secure. In recent 
examples, FISA Section 702 assisted in identifying multiple foreign 
ransomware attacks on U.S. critical infrastructure and helped 
positioned the interagency to respond to and mitigate these events, and 
in some instances, prevent significant attacks on U.S. networks. FISA 
Section 702-acquired information related to sanctioned foreign 
adversaries was used in USG efforts to stop components for weapons of 
mass destruction from reaching foreign actors.
    General Richardson. Reauthorization of this authority is key to 
USSOUTHCOM's intelligence gathering and helps us close our intelligence 
gaps. It is the authority that gives us insights into hostile foreign 
actors, reporting of cybersecurity threats, counterterrorism threats, 
and protecting U.S. allied troops. Without this authority, USSOUTHCOM's 
mission to provide indications and warnings, track external State 
actors, protect the Homeland, and gain insight into malign State actors 
and their activities in the AOR would be severely impaired.
                            cyber operations
    44. Senator Manchin. General VanHerck and General Richardson, based 
on the importance of the Cyber domain and its critical integration into 
all domains of the Joint Operational environment, is your command 
resourced and staffed appropriately to keep pace with the integration 
of Cyber capabilities in an operational environment?
    General VanHerck. I have significant concerns about emerging cyber 
threats to the homeland, however I believe NORAD and USNORTHCOM are 
appropriately staffed at this time. In particular, USNORTHCOM has 
gained significant capability through the USCYBERCOM Cyberspace 
Operations Integrated Planning Element (COIPE) assigned to my 
headquarters. The COIPE coordinated defensive and offensive cyber 
capabilities within the USNORTHCOM area of operations and is integral 
to my ability to compete in the cyber domain. COIPEs are in high demand 
in all operational theaters, as they provide crucial expertise, domain 
awareness, and capability in the cyber domain.
    Regarding resourcing, the USNORTHCOM fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priority List included requests for $4.2 million to modernize homeland 
defense communications system infrastructure and $13.85 million for 
core technology investments. These efforts will improve USNORTHCOM 
communications and information security and mitigate risk to mission 
from equipment that is nearing the end of its service life. The core 
technology investment would enable procurement and installation of 
hardware and data transmission technologies to enhance domain awareness 
and information sharing while addressing shortfalls in unclassified, 
secret, and nuclear command, control, and communications networks.
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM is accepting risk based on the 
resources and staff I currently have to address the growing and 
evolving need to integrate cyber capabilities in an operational 
environment.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
               iran's presence in the western hemisphere
    45. Senator Rosen. Latin America is viewed by the Iranian regime as 
a key area in which it can expand its influence. By forging 
partnerships with leaders in the region, Iran develops new arenas in 
which it can conduct illicit activities and circumvent sanctions. This 
deepening of ties is perhaps best encapsulated by last year's agreement 
between Iran and the Maduro regime in Venezuela. Under this 20-year 
agreement, the two countries will cooperate in the areas of oil, 
defense, and agriculture. Iran has also deepened its presence in Latin 
America through its proxy Hezbollah. Hezbollah is not only a potential 
terrorist threat in your Area of Responsibilities, but also an actor 
deeply embedded in transnational organized crime networks in the 
region, including drug trafficking. That's why last Congress, Senator 
Blackburn and I introduced the Hezbollah in Latin America 
Accountability Act to hold Iran and Hezbollah accountable for their 
activities in the region.
    General Richardson, can you update the Committee on Hezbollah's 
recent activities in Latin America? In addition, can you explain how 
the Iranian regime has expanded its influence in the region and the 
steps SOUTHCOM is taking to disrupt and degrade both actors' power 
projection capabilities?
    General Richardson. Hizballah is active in Latin America, 
exploiting the region for fundraising and terrorist operations. The 
Lebanese Hizballah Foreign Relations Department is charged with 
liaising with diasporas throughout the world. We estimate the Lebanese 
diaspora in Latin America sends more than $212 million annually in 
remittances, some of which lands in the hands of Hizballah. Support for 
Hizballah is most pronounced within the diasporas in Venezuela and the 
Tri-Border Area of Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay, and we have seen 
terrorist-related activity in Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, and Peru during 
the last decade.
    Hizballah's Islamic Jihad Organization (IJO) is responsible for the 
systematic clandestine planning, coordination, and execution of 
terrorist activities, such as the development of contingency-based 
attack options, outside of the Levant to include in Latin America. In 
late 2021 in Colombia, Hizballah was planning to assassinate an Israeli 
national in Bogota to avenge the January 2020 killing of Iran's Qods 
Force commander Qasem Soleimani as part of a broader operation that 
also targeted Americans. In 2017, Bolivian authorities identified a 
Hizballah-affiliated warehouse and seized enough explosive precursor 
material to produce a two-and-a-half-ton bomb. In 2014, Peruvian police 
arrested a Hizballah operative in Lima for planning a terrorist 
operation and regional security services disrupted a plot targeting 
civilians in Chile.
    Iran seeks to improve its standing in the region, while also 
portraying the United States as culpable for the region's socioeconomic 
and citizen security challenges. To do so, Iran uses its relationship 
with Venezuela, the Shia Muslim diaspora, cultural centers throughout 
Latin America, Spanish-language media, and military outreach. Venezuela 
is Iran's primary ally in the Western Hemisphere. Tehran's relationship 
with Caracas has consisted primarily of economic cooperation to assist 
each country with circumventing sanctions, arms transfers, and 
intellectual and skill exchanges. Iranian leaders will periodically 
travel to the region to bolster economic and social ties. In mid-June, 
Iranian President Raisi visited Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Cuba to 
discuss increased cooperation in the areas of science, biotechnology, 
and energy, as well as to expand economic ties and trade. Earlier this 
year, Iran's foreign minister or deputy foreign minister have conducted 
diplomatic engagements with Bolivia, Colombia, Cuba, Nicaragua, and 
Venezuela. Iran uses its cultural centers to gain access to prominent 
individuals within the Islamic and indigenous communities throughout 
the region. In late 2022, the Iranian ships Makran and Dena (oiler and 
frigate respectively) initiated a round-the-world cruise that concluded 
in early 2023, with a 1-week stop in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil to ``show 
the authority of the dear people of Iran to the whole world,'' 
according to Iran's Navy Chief. In mid-2021, midway through a trip to 
Venezuela to deliver seven small fast-attack boats, Iran diverted two 
ships to St. Petersburg, Russia, suggesting Caracas acquiesced to 
United States diplomatic concerns.
                     safeguarding domain awareness
    46. Senator Rosen. Our competitors continue to field advanced 
capabilities across domains that have the potential to threaten the 
Homeland. In light of these threats, NORTHCOM and NORAD must ensure 
that the systems providing the Homeland with domain awareness are 
survivable, adaptable, and modern. In addition, these systems must be 
hardened, as they will be subject to an array of cyberattacks during 
any contingency. I am encouraged by NORTHCOM's continued efforts to 
modernize legacy detection systems such as the Over the Horizon Radar, 
but detection alone is not sufficient. Operators must also have the 
ability to effectively communicate the operational picture to other 
commands, as well as to our partners and allies, often under highly 
compressed timeframes.
    General VanHerck, what steps are you taking to sufficiently harden 
our command and control nodes, particularly in the cyber domain, so 
that we are able to effectively share the operational picture during a 
conflict?
    General VanHerck. I have conducted an assessment of requirements 
for defending NORAD and USNORTHCOM command and control assets in the 
homeland against kinetic and non-kinetic threats. My recommendations 
include acquiring automated sensors to detect cyber intrusions, 
ensuring first line cyber-defenders are tasked and resourced, and 
ensuring adequate defensive Cyber Protection Teams are tasked in the 
event of a detected intrusion. I have provided those recommendations to 
the Department to inform decisions regarding resourcing, the Services 
who own the assets, and USCYBERCOM, which has the technical expertise 
to execute the defensive recommendations. Cyber Domain Awareness is a 
key part of this initiative, and while I can visualize the cyber assets 
controlled by NORAD and USNORTHCOM, my missions rely on many more 
critical nodes that are not owned or operated by NORAD or USNORTHCOM.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                      chinese surveillance balloon
    47. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, prior to the late January/
early February shootdown of the Chinese surveillance balloon, had 
NORTHCOM developed options for countering this threat?
    General VanHerck. Yes, NORAD and NORTHCOM maintain options daily to 
engage potential threats to North America and the United States.

    48. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, when were these options 
presented to the Secretary of Defense?
    General VanHerck. As I testified in open session before the Senate 
Armed Services Committee on 23 March 2023, I presented options relating 
to the PRC HAB to the Secretary of Defense on 1 February 2023. However, 
I'd like to reiterate that I am prepared every single second of every 
day to defend our Homeland.
             chinese and russian actions in usnorthcom aor
    49. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, I have an article from last 
year which quotes you as saying that China and Russia are ``very 
aggressive and active'' in the whole area of the Northern Command's 
area of responsibility, including the Bahamas and Mexico. We've seen 
what happened with the Chinese spy balloon. Can you give other examples 
of aggressive actions?
    General VanHerck. In The Bahamas, the PRC continues its aggressive 
economic and political engagement. The PRC Ambassador remains active in 
an effort to present the PRC as the alternative to United States 
partnership in the region, and has renewed offers to provide economic 
assistance, to include renovating the Bahamas' largest stadium. The PRC 
also donated medical assistance during the COVID-19 pandemic and relief 
supplies such as greenhouses following Hurricane Dorian. Since at least 
2013, Chinese entities and intermediaries have supplied Mexican 
transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) with precursors and 
equipment for the production of synthetic opioids and methamphetamine, 
and facilitated illicit exports of Mexican iron ore, timber, and other 
commodities and raw materials. In addition, Chinese entities have 
assisted Mexican TCOs in laundering the revenues and profits generated 
from the drug trade and other illicit activities. These activities 
ultimately bolster the financial and operational bases of the TCOs, 
contributing to the threat they pose to Mexico's internal security as 
well as enabling flows of synthetic drugs into the United States.
    Although Russia's focus continues to be on its war against Ukraine, 
Russian long-range aviation remains capable of executing high-priority 
missions and is routinely used to demonstrate Russia's capabilities and 
global reach, including through Air Defense Identification Zone 
incursions off the Alaskan and Canadian coasts with their heavy 
bombers.

    50. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, what do we need to do in 
order to adequately deter Russia and China in your Area of 
Responsibilities?
    General VanHerck. In The Bahamas, the PRC continues its aggressive 
economic and political engagement. The PRC Ambassador remains active in 
an effort to present the PRC as the alternative to United States 
partnership in the region, and has renewed offers to provide economic 
assistance, to include renovating the Bahamas' largest stadium. The PRC 
also donated medical assistance during the COVID-19 pandemic and relief 
supplies such as greenhouses following Hurricane Dorian. Since at least 
2013, Chinese entities and intermediaries have supplied Mexican 
transnational criminal organizations (TCOs) with precursors and 
equipment for the production of synthetic opioids and methamphetamine, 
and facilitated illicit exports of Mexican iron ore, timber, and other 
commodities and raw materials. In addition, Chinese entities have 
assisted Mexican TCOs in laundering the revenues and profits generated 
from the drug trade and other illicit activities. These activities 
ultimately bolster the financial and operational bases of the TCOs, 
contributing to the threat they pose to Mexico's internal security as 
well as enabling flows of synthetic drugs into the United States.
    Although Russia's focus continues to be on its war against Ukraine, 
Russian long-range aviation remains capable of executing high-priority 
missions and is routinely used to demonstrate Russia's capabilities and 
global reach, including through Air Defense Identification Zone 
incursions off the Alaskan and Canadian coasts with their heavy 
bombers.
                            southern border
    51. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, 2 weeks ago, United States 
Border Patrol Chief Raul said that we do not have ``operational 
control'' of the southern border. Do you agree with that assessment?
    General VanHerck. U.S. Northern Command is in a supporting role to 
the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS's) Southwest Border (SWB) 
mission and is neither in a position nor tasked to assess DHS's SWB 
operations.

    52. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, if you do agree, what actions 
need to be taken to regain operational control?
    General VanHerck. Please see previous response to question #51.

    53. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, what role does Joint Task 
Force North play in regaining operational control?
    General VanHerck. Joint Task Force North's primary mission is 
support to the interagency in the counter TCO and counter narcotic 
missions. For the ongoing Southwest Border support to DHS, Joint Task 
Force North (JTF-N) commands and controls Department of Defense forces 
supporting the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), as directed in 
the Secretary of Defense's Southwest Border Action Memos. JTF-N is 
executing its mission within the authorities of the Chairman, Joint 
Chiefs of Staff's Defense Support of Civil Authorities Execute Order.

    54. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, what do you believe the 
proper role of the U.S. military is in securing the border in concert 
with Department of Homeland Security?
    General VanHerck. I believe that securing the U.S. border and 
enforcing immigration laws are inherently law enforcement functions. I 
believe it is lawful and appropriate for the Department of Defense to 
contribute secondary support to a lead Federal law enforcement agency 
at the request of the Department of Homeland Security and as approved 
by the Secretary of Defense. As I have previously testified, Department 
of Defense support to DHS at the Southwest Border should only occur in 
extremis situations and should not be an enduring Department of Defense 
mission.

    55. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, are there areas of 
coordination that need to be improved between the U.S. military and 
Department of Homeland Security?
    General VanHerck. DOD and DHS have a long-established collaborative 
and coordinated working relationship; however, it is important to note 
that USNORTHCOM does not directly coordinate with DHS. Instead, OSD 
coordinates with DHS, and then, OSD provides guidance to USNORTHCOM 
through the Joint Staff. With that, USNORTHCOM will continue to support 
direction from military leadership by providing military capabilities 
in support of properly vetted DHS Requests for Assistance (RFAs) in 
response to natural or manmade disasters and/or countering criminal 
organizations. As with most relationships, coordination and 
communication can always be improved. Receiving DHS RFAs as early in 
the decisionmaking process as possible allows DOD to better respond to 
and process those requests. USNORTHCOM is poised to support improved 
and streamlined coordination efforts with respect to future DHS RFAs to 
assure unit sourcing is identified in a timely manner and the needs of 
the Nation are met.

    56. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, does the Mexican military 
have more combat power than cartels?
    General VanHerck. Yes. Mexican military maneuver elements have a 
decided advantage over cartels in terms of firepower, tactical 
proficiency, organizational cohesion and discipline, leadership, 
mobility support, and sustainment. Mexican light attack aircraft can 
provide close air support for engaged ground forces, and firefights 
between cartel gunmen and military elements typically end with cartels 
being the first to disengage and break contact, often after suffering 
disproportionate casualties. The Mexican military has openly 
acknowledged that it is facing challenges to receiving maintenance on 
its Russian-made helicopters due to the war in Ukraine. I believe the 
Mexican military would increase its advantage over the cartels if 
equipped with reliable helicopters. A more streamlined interagency 
process for approving Foreign Military Sales to our partners would also 
benefit the Mexican armed forces and help to reinforce the United 
States' position as the partner of choice. With that said, I remain 
concerned by TCOs' increasing emphasis on fielding military-grade arms 
and explosives, and their aggression against Mexican security forces.

                        threats to the homeland
    57. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, General Kurilla said 2 weeks 
ago it was his Commander's estimate that ISIS-K could conduct an 
external operation against United States or Western interests abroad in 
under 6 months, with little to no warning. Do you judge the southern 
border to be a possible vector of attack for foreign terrorists?
    General VanHerck. Yes, it is certainly possible that the southern 
border, and any border for that matter, could be used as an attack 
vector. With that said, although it is accurate to judge the southern 
border as being potentially vulnerable to foreign terrorists moving 
into the United States, USNORTHCOM has no information of plans to do 
so. Instead, foreign terrorist groups prefer individuals who have no 
known association with a terrorist organization or have no record who 
can use safer, cheaper, legal, and more direct methods, such as flying, 
to enter the United States.

    58. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, does ISIS still assess the 
southern border to be an opportunity to smuggle their operatives into 
the United States commit terrorist attacks?
    General VanHerck. Although it's possible that ISIS, or any entity 
that desires to inflict harm to the United States could use any border 
to gain access, there is no evidence to suggest ISIS is interested in 
or has sent operatives to exploit the United States southern border to 
enter the United States to conduct attacks. Even during the group's 
high-water mark in 2015, ISIS was unable to conduct a directed attack 
in the United States. Instead, ISIS relied on Homegrown Violent 
Extremists to conduct attacks on the group's behalf. With substantial 
CT setbacks over the last several years, the group likely will continue 
to rely on HVEs to target the Homeland.

    59. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, do you agree that Iran 
remains intent on conducting attacks on the United States Nation's 
capital?
    General VanHerck. Yes, I agree with that assessment. Iran remains 
intent on directing attacks within the United States and is not 
limiting its efforts to Washington DC. During the past year, Iran has 
targeted Iranian nationals living in the United States that Tehran 
views as critical of and a threat to the Iranian regime. Iran has also 
stated a clear intent to seek revenge for the death of former Quds 
Force Commander, Qasseim Soleimani, and has sanctioned plots against 
United States Government officials that Iran views complicit in 
Soleimani's death. This includes a failed murder-for-hire plot against 
a former U.S. National Security Advisor.
                          russian intelligence
    60. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, last year, you warned the 
Armed Services Committee that Russian military intelligence had more 
officers deployed to Mexico than any other country in the world. Is 
that still your assessment?
    General VanHerck. Yes. While I appreciate the Mexican Government's 
attention to this matter, I have seen nothing to change my assessment 
regarding the concerning number of Russian military intelligence 
officers deployed to Mexico.

    61. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, what aspects of Russian 
activity most concern you?
    General VanHerck. I am most concerned by Russia's ability to hold 
the homeland at risk with nuclear, conventional, and non-kinetic 
weapons. I am also concerned by the potential for a regional crisis, 
such as what we are seeing in Ukraine, to escalate into wider conflict 
that directly impacts the homeland and/or the territories of our allies 
and partners. As we are witnessing in Ukraine, advanced long-range 
Russian cruise missiles are highly precise and difficult to detect and 
track. They can be fired from long-range bombers, submarines, surface 
vessels, or road-mobile launchers and can reach targets in the United 
States and Canada from well outside our territory. Some of those 
missiles could be used to strike targets in North America with 
conventional or nuclear warheads. Limited warning times and uncertainty 
about what type of payload a missile is carrying increases the risk of 
miscalculation, potentially limiting our options.

    62. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, according to Department of 
Homeland Security data, Customs and Border Protection encounter more 
than 100 Russians attempting to illegally enter the United States every 
month near just a single location on the United States-Mexico border. 
Do you know how many have had ties to Vladimir Putin's government?
    General VanHerck. I'll defer to DHS for the totals, by country, of 
foreign nationals entering the United States and if any have ties to 
the Russian Government. I am aware of the ongoing efforts by United 
States law enforcement agencies to uncover actors with nefarious 
intentions at our border crossings, including any Russians.

    63. Senator Cotton. General VanHerck, how are you working with 
Department of Homeland Security to secure this threat?
    General VanHerck. DHS and FBI have the primary responsibility to 
assess, characterize, and respond to activity by irregular migrants 
with possibly malign affiliations or intent. USNORTHCOM coordinates 
regularly with the Intelligence Community, FBI, DHS on border security 
issues, and I have DHS and FBI representatives permanently assigned to 
my headquarters to keep the command apprised of potential threats from 
foreign terrorists or foreign intelligence operatives.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Michael Rounds
          china's role in drug trafficking on southern border
    64. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck, is Joint Taskforce North 
(JTF-NORTH) tracking China's involvement with the drug manufacturing 
that happens in Mexico, specifically fentanyl?
    General VanHerck. Yes, USNORTHCOM and JTF-North are aware that 
Chinese expatriates and China-based companies are part of the supply 
chain that provides chemicals used to manufacture synthetic drugs, 
including fentanyl, in Mexico. Chinese chemical companies are the 
primary producers of chemicals used to make illicit fentanyl.

    65. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck, if they are, can you explain 
to me what the Chinese role in the process is? Are they simply shipping 
the component chemicals over from Asia or are they an integral piece in 
the development, trafficking and selling of illicit drugs in America?
    General VanHerck. Chinese nationals and companies are producers and 
brokers of chemicals used in the production of synthetic drugs. Chinese 
chemical companies are the primary producers of chemicals used to make 
illicit fentanyl and methamphetamine. Aside from a small number of 
direct precursor chemicals, the chemicals used to make illicit drugs 
tend to be unregulated and uncontrolled by China, so their production 
and sale is generally legal in China. Brokers facilitate the sale and 
shipment of the chemicals to buyers in Mexico. Some of these 
transactions are for illicit purposes from their outset, while others 
are for precursor chemicals that do have legitimate, dual-use 
applications, but which are subsequently diverted to illicit use. 
Accordingly, the role--and complicity--of the Chinese producers and 
brokers in the synthetic drug supply chain varies.
                  transnational criminal organizations
    66. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck and General Richardson, do you 
believe that having Department of Defense involved in the United 
States' approach to countering transnational criminal organizations 
results in inter-agency information sharing that would not occur if 
Department of Defense was not involved?
    General VanHerck. Yes, but only marginally. The Department of 
Defense, through USNORTHCOM and Joint Task Force North, does facilitate 
information sharing as a by-product of the support we provide to 
various U.S. and foreign partners. However, we are limited in what the 
Department of Defense can affect, due to the lack of a lead Federal 
agency that is empowered to coordinate a whole-of-government strategy 
for countering transnational criminal organizations. As I am previously 
testified, I do not see the TCO mission and the mission on the 
Southwest Border as enduring DOD missions. We need a whole-of-
government strategy with a designated lead Federal agency fully 
resourced to execute this mission. DOD resources should only be 
utilized in extremis.
    General Richardson. Yes. There are currently 18 Interagency 
representatives from nine different agencies and departments assigned 
full time to USSOUTHCOM Headquarters to enable effective interagency 
integration into operations and planning to counter transnational 
criminal organizations. USSOUTHCOM has a robust law enforcement 
presence and a Law Enforcement Working Group (LEWG) focused primarily 
on the counter-TCO mission set. The LEWG brings law enforcement agents 
and intelligence officers together with key members of the Staff and 
Components to discuss law enforcement issues, align targeting, provide 
information sharing, and refine Concepts of Operation.
    DOD supports C-TCO interagency efforts through a variety of 
technical and procedural means and ways. Interagency partners share 
information with DOD to help the Department leverage its resources 
under Title 10 to support law enforcement and foreign partners combat 
transnational criminal organizations. In the case of Joint Interagency 
Task Force-South (JIATF-S), the information shared by the interagency 
feeds a ``cycle of success,'' enabling JIATF-S to fuse information and 
cue partners to interdict drug trafficking and gather evidence used to 
further illuminate and prosecute criminal activity and the criminal 
networks behind them. The DOD is uniquely postured to help facilitate 
collaboration, integration and synchronization across the USG.

    67. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck and General Richardson, is 
there any increase in authority that may assist the Department in 
furthering the goal of countering Transnational Criminal Organizations?
    General VanHerck. No. I have the appropriate authorities to perform 
my assigned support missions. Transnational Criminal Organizations are 
a global security problem, and the Department of Defense is not the 
lead for countering them. I believe designating and empowering a lead 
Federal agency to get after this problem would provide greater benefits 
than increasing the Department of Defense role.
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM is currently reviewing our existing 
authorities as part of the development of the fiscal year 25 
Legislative proposals process. As we look specifically at our ability 
to counter TCOs, we will keep the Congress apprised of any additional 
authorities we believe would be helpful in this mission.
 jtf-north's mission in countering transnational criminal organizations
    68. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck, it's my understanding that 
JTF-NORTH's ultimate mission is to set up its mission partners to 
counter Transnational Criminal Organizations without Department of 
Defense support. Do you think this goal is achievable? Or do you expect 
Department of Defense to be a necessary component in this task 
indefinitely?
    General VanHerck. The goal itself is appropriate given Defense 
Department priorities and authorities, but I consider it aspirational 
in light of how the Federal Government counters TCOs. We simply cannot 
interdict our way out of this situation. We need a strategy that goes 
after the networks, rather than focusing on specific commodities. With 
a designated, resourced, and empowered lead Federal agency, and in a 
truly whole-of-government approach, we could begin to see progress. 
But, until a lead Federal agency is identified and properly resourced, 
I believe we will continue to see only marginal, superficial success.
                            mexican cartels
    69. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck, what happens if the Mexican 
cartels are designated as foreign terrorist organizations? How would 
that designation affect Department of Defense?
    General VanHerck. With specific regard to the U.S. Northern Command 
operations, I assess that designating the Mexican drug cartels as 
Foreign Terrorist Organizations would be of negligible benefit, if any, 
to those activities we conduct in support of our interagency partners. 
I defer to the Department of Defense for assessments of Department-wide 
effects.
          united states-mexico military-to-military relations
    70. Senator Rounds. General VanHerck, what does the mil-to-mil 
situation look like with our Mexican counterparts?
    General VanHerck. The military-to-military relationship between 
USNORTHCOM and our Mexican military partners is exceptionally strong 
and getting stronger. We have progressed beyond the traditional 
transactional relationship into one of a true and resilient 
partnership. USNORTHCOM remains attuned to Mexican sensitivities and 
understands that we must go at the speed and pace of our partners as 
they continue to take on more leadership in the region.
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                            missile defense
    71. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the risk to homeland 
defense of persistent Russian or Chinese cruise missile submarines off 
our coasts?
    General VanHerck. The risk is decreased decision space for our 
Nation's leaders, which erodes strategic stability and increases the 
risk of an attack on our homeland and the potential for strategic 
deterrence failure. It also potentially limits timely power projection 
from the homeland to a forward fight. Russia's strategy, and likely the 
PRC's in the future, is to delay and disrupt forces flowing from the 
homeland and to destroy the will of the American people in order to 
terminate a forward crisis on terms favorable to their goals.

    72. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, are there capability gaps in 
current missile defenses against this threat?
    General VanHerck. Yes, gaps and limitations in present day 
surveillance and response options greatly limit NORAD and USNORTHCOM's 
ability to detect, track, ID, and engage cruise missile threats to the 
Homelands.

    73. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the risk to homeland 
defense from containerized missiles? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional classified 
answer if necessary.
    General VanHerck. Containerized missiles systems can conceal cruise 
missiles enroute to a launch location, decrease indications and 
warning, and make it difficult to detect and defeat a missile threat. 
Russia currently produces the Club-K containerized missile system, 
which provides a long-range precision strike capability against land, 
sea, and air targets and includes four ground or sea-launched cruise 
missiles concealed by a standard 40-foot shipping container. One of the 
missiles available for the system is a special anti-ship variant that 
accelerates to supersonic speeds of up to Mach 3, generating a 
catastrophic kinetic effect on a target vessel.
    The PRC is reportedly building a long-range cruise missile that 
could be fired from shipping containers. This development likely would 
be similar to the Russia Club-K type missile system and disguised as a 
commercial shipping container. This new weapon could help the PRC turn 
its fleet of freighters into potential warships and commercial ports 
into potential missile bases. This development would make 
distinguishing civilian maritime traffic from military vessels more 
difficult and could limit the ability to warn of an attack against 
North America.

    74. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the risk to homeland 
defense from cruise missiles generated by platforms other than 
submarines? Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent 
possible; please provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General VanHerck. In the maritime domain, Russia's development and 
fielding of cruise missile capable surface combatants and deployment 
outside of Russian territorial waters will increase the risk to 
homeland defense as the Russian naval order of battle expands. Most of 
Russia's new surface combatants are capable of carrying the KALIBR 
cruise missile, and the Club-K containerized missile system is the 
export version of the KALIBR. Russian heavy bombers already have the 
capability to launch cruise missiles against targets in North America 
without entering NORAD radar coverage. Russia's long-range aviation 
command continues modernization efforts intended to improve the 
capabilities of its bombers to ensure their continued viability. This 
includes upgrades to propulsion, avionics, and weapons, enabling LRA to 
strike deeper into North America. LRA's heavy bombers continue to be a 
flexible tool for Russia to perform strategic messaging and 
conventional precision strikes, as well as providing Moscow with a 
nuclear option. Russian heavy bombers frequently conduct Air Defense 
Identification Zone incursions off the coasts of Alaska and western 
Canada and have the capability to conduct cruise missile strikes 
against North America with little to no warning.
    The People's Liberation Army (PLA) Navy has expanded its force of 
large surface combatants by building Renhai-class guided missile 
cruisers and the Luyang III-class guided missile destroyers. The Renhai 
cruiser is equipped with a 112 cell vertical launch system (VLS) and 
the LUYANG III has a 64 cell VLS. Once operational, these systems will 
be capable of carrying a variety of weapons including anti-ship cruise 
missiles, and likely land-attack cruise missiles (LACM) and anti-ship 
ballistic missiles. As the PLA Navy continues to transition into a 
global multi-mission force, the addition of land attack capabilities to 
its modern array of anti-surface and anti-air capabilities is a logical 
next step. In the coming years, the PLA Navy will probably field LACMs 
on its newer cruisers and destroyers and developmental Shang III-class 
SSGNs. The addition of land attack capabilities to the PLA Navy's 
surface combatants and submarines would provide the PLA with flexible 
long-range strike options and allow the PRC to hold land targets within 
North America at risk.

    75. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the risk to homeland 
defense from threats posed by long-range bombers like the H-20? Please 
provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide 
an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General VanHerck. The H-20 will indeed pose an enhanced risk to the 
homeland, especially compared to the legacy long-range bombers that the 
PRC currently fields. The H-20 is expected to operate at or beyond the 
range of the PRC's current bomber fleet. The aircraft's extended range, 
combined with long-range weapons will provide a new capability for the 
PRC. The low-observable nature of the H-20 will present additional 
challenges regarding the ability to detect the aircraft and provide 
warning. However, while the H-20 poses an enhanced threat compared to 
its predecessors, the PRC's arsenal of currently fielded ICBMs continue 
to pose the biggest threat to the Homeland and will remain the largest 
portion of its nuclear triad for at least the next decade.
                             aerial threats
    76. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the risk to homeland 
defense from ubiquitous armed balloons?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are not aware of an armed 
balloon threat to the Homeland.

    77. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what active and passive 
measures can we adopt to reduce vulnerability ubiquitous armed 
balloons?
    General VanHerck. NORAD and USNORTHCOM are not aware of an armed 
balloon threat to the homeland. However, increased domain awareness, 
improved information sharing, and global integration between commands 
will all reduce vulnerability to potential airborne threats.

    78. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, has NORTHCOM's guidance for 
defeating potential aerial threats changed since the four incidents 
earlier this year? If so, in what ways? If not, why not?
    General VanHerck. No, NORAD guidance for defeating potential aerial 
threats has not changed. Our Rules of Engagement have not been modified 
for these types of events, and we continue to execute our missions in 
accordance with that NORAD ROE.

                            domain awareness
    79. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the gap in NORTHCOM 
capabilities to detect and analyze cruise missile threats? Please 
provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide 
an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General VanHerck. Although NORAD's current line-of-sight 
surveillance architecture is capable of addressing certain legacy 
threats, it is inadequate for modern threats to include cruise missiles 
and hypersonic weapons. The Department must secure multi-domain, 
layered, integrated, passive and active sensor capabilities to enable 
timely warning, detection, identification and persistent tracking of 
low attitude multi-axis cruise missile attacks.

    80. Senator Ernst. General VanHerck, what is the gap in NORTHCOM 
capabilities to detect and analyze threats in the cyber domain? Please 
provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide 
an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General VanHerck. USNORTHCOM requires increased domain awareness in 
all domains, to include the cyber domain, to effectively conduct 
operations and maintain domain awareness for prioritized defense 
critical infrastructure (DCI). The cyber threat remains a significant 
concern as competitors continue to expand their capacity to exploit and 
exfiltrate data and deny services, and to disrupt critical 
infrastructure, commercial services, and military operations. 
USNORTHCOM is working with USCYBERCOM, the military Services, and the 
Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency to improve domain 
awareness and information sharing to better protect DCI in the cyber 
domain.

                      chinese and russian threats
    81. Senator Ernst. General Richardson, what are the national 
security implications of 11 China-linked space facilities in your Area 
of Responsibilities?
    General Richardson. The presence of China-linked space facilities 
in Latin America and the Caribbean enhances Beijing's ability to track 
our space assets as well as their own and to collect on the United 
States. The PRC's access to space sites is critical to its efforts to 
become a leading space power. Beijing may use these sites to spy on 
United States facilities and attempt to intercept communications. 
China's ground stations in South America provide coverage of the skies 
over the Western Hemisphere and many of the China-linked space 
facilities are located along the same longitudinal sector as the United 
States Eastern seaboard, Washington, and most of the U.S. military's 
telecommunications and reconnaissance satellites that service the area 
while in geosynchronous orbit. These facilities make up one segment of 
a global network of ground stations that maintain communications with 
satellites as they pass over different geographic regions along their 
orbit.

    82. Senator Ernst. General Richardson, what has SOUTHCOM done to 
mitigate surveillance capabilities related to the 11 China-linked space 
facilities in your Area of Responsibilities?
    General Richardson. USSOUTHCOM is actively engaging with our 
partners in the AOR to develop a shared commitment to utilize space in 
a manner that is in keeping with the international norms of behavior 
for peaceful use in virtually every dimension of our bilateral and 
multilateral relationships.? Working with partners across the U.S. 
interagency, we continue to engage our foreign partners to help them to 
understand the nature of MSA utilization of their space facilities. Few 
have a desire for their country to be used as a platform for military 
capabilities.
    Additionally, USSOUTHCOM, in conjunction with USSPACECOM, has 
partnered to establish common objectives to closely monitor and, when 
appropriate, address the PRC's space capabilities and influence in the 
AOR. This is done through collaborative partner nation engagements to 
promote Space Domain Awareness aligned with U.S. interests.

    83. Senator Ernst. General Richardson, how is SOUTHCOM preventing 
installation of additional People's Republic of China-linked space 
facilities?
    General Richardson. The PRC consistently works to expand its 
network of military space infrastructure across the USSOUTHCOM AOR. 
USSOUTHCOM continues to strengthen relationships with our allies and 
partners by positioning ourselves as a partner of choice through 
subject matter expert exchanges (SMEE) and capability building with 
partner nations throughout the AOR. As USSOUTHCOM builds out our common 
operation picture while mapping current and potential MSA space 
facilities, we provide guidance and requested assistance to partner 
nations while illuminating nefarious actions performed by MSAs. 
Additionally, we continue to expose predatory and failed MSA influenced 
contracts which create unfavorable conditions for partner nations.
    In a truly integrated deterrence approach, we coordinate with the 
Department of Commerce on critical advocacy cases to deny unchallenged 
penetration to the MSA State Owned Enterprises. We also collaborate 
with their Commercial Law Development Program, highlighting 
opportunities to advise and assist partner nations in developing robust 
legal frameworks to secure their critical telecommunication 
infrastructure. This effort is coordinated with the Department of State 
and is further guided by NSC prioritization to ensure synergy.

    84. Senator Ernst. General Richardson, does the United States have 
capabilities to hold at risk potential Chinese or Russian military 
targets located in your Area of Responsbilities? If so, what 
capabilities? If not, what are the capability gaps?
    General Richardson. While USSOUTHCOM has no assigned forces and 
limited capabilities to hold targets at risk, the United States does 
have those capabilities and there are mechanisms in place by which 
USSOUTHCOM could request additional capabilities, if required.

    85. Senator Ernst. General Richardson, does the United States have 
capabilities to hold at risk valued military targets of states in your 
Area of Responsibilities that host Chinese or Russian military or dual-
use capabilities? If so, what capabilities? If not, what are the 
capability gaps
    General Richardson. While USSOUTHCOM has no assigned forces and 
limited capabilities to hold at risk valued military targets of states 
in this AOR that host Chinese or Russian military or dual-use 
capabilities, the United States does have those capabilities. Also, 
there are mechanisms in place by which USSOUTHCOM could request 
additional capabilities, if required.

                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                     chinese balloon over colombia
    86. Senator Sullivan. General Richardson, while many are tracking 
the Chinese Spy Balloon incursion over my State in January 2023, most 
may have forgotten the Colombian military reportedly sighted a similar 
balloon over their country in the same timeframe. United States 
military officials have confirmed a Chinese balloon was spotted over 
Latin America but have never specified exactly where. The existence of 
Chinese balloons in both our NORTHCOM and SOUTHCOM AORs are to me a 
startling message from China. What have you learned from the Colombians 
on the Chinese Balloon that flew over their country?
    General Richardson. Colombia was aware the Chinese balloon flew 
through its airspace at a high altitude and sent a report through 
established channels with information about the balloon. The object was 
detected at an altitude of 55,000 feet, moving into the airspace to the 
north at an average of 25 knots, or 29 miles per hour. The object was 
monitored until it left the airspace. The government did not see the 
balloon as a threat to the civilian population and had no additional 
information to share about the balloon.

    87. Senator Sullivan. Since the previously mentioned incident, what 
changes have you made in your tracking capability to monitor future 
activity?
    General Richardson. This incident demonstrated that we need to be 
more aware of this type of surveillance threat within the USSOUTHCOM 
AOR. We have learned that we need to be actively monitoring and sharing 
potential tracks and threat assessments with NORAD/NORTHCOM, other 
COCOMs, and the Joint Staff, as well as our regional partners that may 
be in its flight path. In doing so, the USSOUTHCOM Joint Operations 
Center (JOC) has increased its coordination and communication with 
NORAD/NORTHCOM and the Joint Staff with monitoring and tracking these 
occurrences. The JOC has also added these events to its reporting 
requirements to the USSOUTHCOM Commander and senior staff to provide 
consistent and continuous updates for analysis and decisionmaking.
                 counterintelligence threats in soutcom
    88. Senator Sullivan. General Richardson, can you please speak to 
how you mitigate China and Russia from collecting on our Tactics, 
Techniques, and Procedures during trainings in which our forces train 
SOUTCOM-based military's who also receive instruction from China and 
Russia?
    General Richardson. Training is done at the level of disclosure 
permitted by classification guidance. Additionally, the Command 
utilizes Foreign Disclosure Officers to review training material prior 
to its release to partners. All host nation forces that we partner with 
are vetted through the Leahy vetting process. United States forces 
receive operational security training prior to entering the theater in 
order to protect critical and sensitive information as well as receive 
force protection briefs from United States Embassy Regional Security 
Officers and Senior Defense Officials once in theater. Sensitive TTPs 
are closely safeguarded and those with whom we share those in training 
and advisory capacities are closely vetted.
                     russian presence in the arctic
    89. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck can you please speak to how 
Russian demands for experienced troops and its primary focus in Ukraine 
has impacted their force disposition in the Arctic region?
    General VanHerck. Russia has drawn ground forces and equipment from 
its Arctic territories to support its conflict with Ukraine. Despite 
the requirements of the conflict, Russia continues to develop military 
infrastructure in the Arctic, as well as field advanced military 
platforms. We judge Moscow will prioritize reconstituting its Arctic 
forces following the conclusion of its conflict with Ukraine.

                  infrastructure improvement in alaska
    90. Senator Sullivan. General VanHerck what specific infrastructure 
improvements in Alaska would most benefit NORTHCOM's mission to monitor 
and defend the Homeland?
    General VanHerck. Alaska plays a pivotal role in defending the 
Homeland as well as providing access to the United States European 
Command and United States Indo-Pacific Command AORs in support of 
multiple strategic plans. Though all Alaskan infrastructure is key, my 
primary concern is the infrastructure that meets these no-fail plans 
requirements. To that end, USNORTHCOM has funded a $2 million Area 
Development Plan (ADP) through the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers-Alaska 
District. This ADP will allow for a holistic analysis of requirements 
needed to support OPLANs and CONPLANs in conjunction with those to 
support the Indo-Pacific theater. I am awaiting the results of this ADP 
to identify any gaps and seams and identify our highest priority 
infrastructure. Other improvements that will facilitate Joint Force 
support of NORAD and USNORTHCOM mission requirements include alert, 
fuels, laboratory, and maintenance facilities at various Alaskan 
installations, as well as an operations facility at the Joint Pacific 
Alaska Range Complex (JPARC). I am working closely with the Services 
and the Department to prioritize investment in these improvements in 
the coming years.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        TUESDAY, MARCH 28, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BUDGET REQUEST

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m., in 
room G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, 
Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. I would like to call a hearing to order, and 
since we have a quorum, I would ask the Committee to consider 
Tuesday's nominations and a list of 27 pending military 
nominations.
    First, I ask the Committee to consider the following 
civilian nominations. Mr. Ronald Keohane to be Assistant 
Secretary of Defense for Manpower and Reserve Affairs, and Hon. 
Nickolas H. Guertin to be the Assistant Secretary of the Navy 
for Research, Development and Acquisition. Is there a motion to 
favorably report these----
    Senator Wicker. So, moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Voice: Second.
    Chairman Reed. in favor, say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]
    Chairman Reed. Finally, I ask the Committee to consider a 
list of 27 pending military nominations. of these nominations 
have been before the Committee for the required length of time. 
Is there a motion to favorably report this list of 27 pending 
military nominations?
    Senator Wicker. So, moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Voice. Second.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. All in favor, say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]

    [The list of nominations considered and approved by the 
Committee follows:]

 Military Nominations Pending With the Senate Armed Services Committee 
Which are Proposed for the Committee's Consideration on March 23, 2023.

      1.  In the Air Force there are 27 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with David J. Berkland) (Reference No. 
196)

      2.  Col. Corey A. Simmons, USAF to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 198)

      3.  RADM George M. Wikoff, USN to be vice admiral and Commander, 
US Naval Forces, Central Command/Commander, FIFTH Fleet and Commander, 
Combined Maritime Forces (Reference No. 211)

      4.  RADM Frederick W. Kacher, USN to be vice admiral and 
Commander, SEVENTH Fleet (Reference No. 212)

      5.  In the Army there are 101 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Tolulope O. Akinsanya) (Reference No. 238)

      6.  In the Marine Corps there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (Jason W. Price) (Reference No. 257)

      7.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 11 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Sean M. Carpenter) 
(Reference No. 290)

      8.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of brigadier general (list begins with Kristin A. Hillery) 
(Reference No. 291)

      9.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of major general (list begins with Elizabeth E. Arledge) 
(Reference No. 292)
     10.  Col. Carlos M. Caceres, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 310)
     11.  RADM Shoshana S. Chatfield, USN to be vice admiral and US 
Military Representative to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization 
Military Committee (Reference No. 311)
     12.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (Shane K. Doty) (Reference No. 312)
     13.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 9 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Speight H. Caroon) (Reference No. 
313)
     14.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (Brandi Barnard King) (Reference No. 314)
     15.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Daniel S. McPherson) (Reference No. 
315)
     16.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Matthew J. Andrade) (Reference No. 
316)
     17.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 10 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Adam James Cole) (Reference No. 317)
     18.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Eric K. Wilke) (Reference No. 318)
     19.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 13 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Kelli M. Bermudez) (Reference No. 
319)
     20.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Lisa Carol Giugliano) (Reference No. 
320)
     21.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 7 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Joseph Catalino, Jr.) (Reference No. 
321)
     22.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 9 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with James M. Bershinsky) (Reference No. 
322)
     23.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Gary Monroe Boutz, Jr.) (Reference 
No. 323)
     24.  In the Air Force Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade 
of colonel (John Charles Easley) (Reference No. 324)
     25.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 37 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Robert M. Acosta) (Reference No. 
325)
     26.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 2 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Nicole Dyan David) (Reference No. 
326)
     27.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 7 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Karrie Megan Bem) (Reference No. 
327)
     28.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 3 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with Douglas A. Collins) (Reference No. 
328)
     29.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Marquis A.T. Smith) (Reference No. 329)
     30.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 61 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with James S. Akers II) (Reference No. 
330)
     31.  In the Air Force Reserve there are 31 appointments to the 
grade of colonel (list begins with David I. Amar) (Reference No. 331)
     32.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Sashi A. Zickefoose) (Reference No. 332)
     33.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Howard F. Stanley) (Reference No. 333)
     34.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
colonel (Bobby J. Chun) (Reference No. 334)
     35.  In the Army there are 7 appointments to the grade of colonel 
(list begins with Joshua G. Glonek) (Reference No. 335)
     36.  In the Army there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Alex J. Duffy) (Reference No. 337)
     37.  In the Army there are 4 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Liza B. Crawford) (Reference No. 338)
     38.  In the Army Reserve there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Jeremy S. Stirm) (Reference No. 339)
     39.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Renee R. Kiel) (Reference No. 340)
     40.  In the Army there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Melissa B. Riesterhartsell) 
(Reference No. 341)
     41.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
colonel (Kimberly A. Dilger) (Reference No. 342)
     42.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Abigail R. Osman) (Reference No. 343)
     43.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Andrew J. Archuleta) (Reference No. 344)
     44.  In the Army Reserve there are 8 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Christopher C. Cross) (Reference No. 345)
     45.  In the Army there are 37 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Michael J. Baierlein) (Reference No. 346)
     46.  In the Army there are 575 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Austin P. Abarr) (Reference No. 347)
     47.  In the Army there are 489 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with James H. Abney) (Reference No. 348)
     48.  In the Army there are 981 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Mitchell A. Ables) (Reference No. 349)
     49.  In the Army Reserve there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Peter B. East) (Reference No. 350)
     50.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (list begins with William M. Schweitzer) (Reference No. 351)
     51.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of captain 
(list begins with Louis V. Scott) (Reference No. 353)
     52.  Col. William F. Wilkerson, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 359)
     53.  Col. Evelyn E. Laptook, USAR to be brigadier general 
(Reference No. 360)
     54.  BG Ronald R. Ragin, USA to be major general (Reference No. 
361)
     55.  In the Army there are 37 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with Brandon C. Anderson) (Reference No. 
362)
     56.  In the Marine Corps there are 8 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with David R. Everly) (Reference No. 
363)
     57.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Walter D. Brafford) (Reference 
No. 364)
     58.  In the Navy there are 16 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Eric J. Anduze) (Reference No. 
365)
     59.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Brian J. Anderson) (Reference 
No. 366)
     60.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (list begins with Casey J. Moton) (Reference No. 367)
     61.   RADM(lh) Rick Freedman, USN to be rear admiral (Reference 
No. 368)
     62.  RADM(lh) Kenneth W. Epps, USN to be rear admiral (Reference 
No. 369) 3
     63.  In the Navy there are 13 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (list begins with Stephen D. Barnett) (Reference No. 370)
     64.  Capt. Frank G. Schlereth III, USN to be rear admiral (lower 
half) (Reference No. 371)
     65.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Joshua C. Himes) (Reference No. 
372)
     66.  In the Navy there are 4 appointments to the grade of rear 
admiral (lower half) (list begins with Thomas J. Dickinson) (Reference 
No. 373)
     67.  In the Air Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
major general (list begins with Thomas W. Harrell) (Reference No. 379)
     68.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Maximilian S. Lee) (Reference No. 380)
     69.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (Justin J. Reeb) (Reference No. 381)
     70.  LTG James W. Bierman, Jr., USMC to be lieutenant general and 
Deputy Commandant for Plans, Policies, and Operations, Headquarters, US 
Marine Corps (Reference No. 389)
     71.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Matthew J. Clementz) (Reference No. 397)
     72.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Samuel T. Kramer) (Reference No. 398)
     73.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Carla A. Kiernan) (Reference No. 399)
     74.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(John W. Brock II) (Reference No. 400)
     75.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(John D. Horton) (Reference No. 404)
     76.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Joel N. Buffardi) (Reference No. 405)
     77.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Sarah D. Eccleston) (Reference No. 406)
     78.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Nicholas P. Fiebke) (Reference No. 407)
     79.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Andrew J. Doyle) (Reference No. 408)
     80.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(William T. Griggs) (Reference No. 409)
     81.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Megan L. Maloy) (Reference No. 410)
     82.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Kaitlyn M. Hernandez) (Reference No. 411)
     83.  In the Army Reserve there are 15 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Timothy I. Arcelay) (Reference No. 412)
     84.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Sara C. Adams) (Reference No. 413)
     85.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Christina G. Nalley) (Reference No. 414)
     86.  In the Army Reserve there are 7 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (Andrew Adamczyk) (Reference No. 415)
     87.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of colonel 
(Ashley S. Lee) (Reference No. 416)
     88.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Timothy W. Lindeman) (Reference No. 417)
     89.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Ebony Q. Star) (Reference No. 418)
     90.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Sarah A. Delarosa) (Reference No. 419)
     91.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Mark T. Sopkiw, Jr.) (Reference No. 420)
     92.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Justin T. Thomas) (Reference No. 421)
     93.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major (Rei 
T. Israel) (Reference No. 422)
     94.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Adam L. Fox) (Reference No. 423)
     95.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Jason L. Workman) (Reference No. 424)
     96.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Stephen J. Cumby) (Reference No. 425)
     97.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Stephen M. Anderson) (Reference No. 426)
     98.  In the Navy Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
captain (Elisabeth Crumpler) (Reference No. 427)
     99.  In the Navy there are 27 appointments to the grade of captain 
(list begins with Kyle A. Aduskevich) (Reference No. 428)
    100.  In the Navy there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
commander (list begins with Bramwell B. Arnold III) (Reference No. 429)
    101.  In the Navy there are 34 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (list begins with Jeffrey R. Biermann) (Reference 
No. 430)
    102.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (James H. Knight) (Reference No. 431)
    103.  In the Space Force there are 9 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with Ross M. Boston) (Reference No. 432)
    104.  In the Space Force there are 38 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Jason M. Adams) (Reference No. 433)
    105.  In the Space Force there are 68 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Christopher John Alban) (Reference 
No. 434)
    106.  In the Space Force there are 58 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Bridget L. Ajinga) (Reference No. 
435)
    107.  In the Space Force there are 76 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with John W. Anderson) (Reference No. 436)
    108.  In the Space Force there are 100 appointments to the grade of 
major (list begins with Christina M. Akers) (Reference No. 437)
    109.  In the Space Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Cassandra R. Hidalgo) (Reference 
No. 438)
    110.  In the Space Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Edward E. Jones) (Reference No. 439)

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TOTAL: 3,059

    Chairman Reed. The ayes have it. Thank you very much. 
Welcome, Secretary Austin, General Milley, and Secretary 
McCord. Before I get into my statement, I want to take a moment 
to recognize the tragic disasters that struck Mississippi and 
Alabama this weekend.
    Our hearts are certainly with the people of Mississippi and 
Alabama after tornadoes caused terrible loss of life and 
intense damage, and I know Senator Wicker, Senator Tuberville 
are doing everything they can to help their States, and we are 
thinking about the families and loved ones who were suffering.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the President's Budget Request for the 
Department of Defense (DOD) for fiscal year 2024. Witnesses 
this morning are Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, Under 
Secretary of Defense Controller Michael McCord, and Chairman of 
the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley.
    Thank you for appearing before us today and please extend 
the Committee's thanks to the servicemembers and Defense 
civilians in the Department. I would like to take a moment to 
recognize that this will be General Milley's final posture 
hearing before his retirement later this year. General, you 
have served this Nation for 43 years with honor, skill, and 
steadfast leadership, and we are deeply grateful.
    We thank your family for their support throughout your 
service, and we congratulate you on a very well-deserved 
retirement. Thank you, sir. Earlier this month, President Biden 
released his fiscal year 2024 budget request for the Department 
of Defense with a top line of $842 billion. As the President's 
Budget recognizes and as his national defense strategy makes 
clear, China is our primary competitor.
    The PRC [People's Republic of China] is the only nation 
with both the intent and the capability to challenge the 
security and economic interests of the United States and our 
allies and partners. At the same time, Russia remains a 
violent, destabilizing force. Putin's assault on Ukraine is 
inflicting horrific suffering on innocent civilians, 
threatening European stability, and harming the global economy.
    However, if Putin thought his war would drive a wedge 
between NATO members and the international community, he was 
badly mistaken. The international community has united in a way 
not seen in decades, and our potential adversaries around the 
world are taking note.
    The Biden administration and the witnesses before us today 
deserve great credit for leading this effort. In addition to 
the threats posed by Russia and China, nations like Iran and 
North Korea continue to push the boundaries of military 
brinksmanship and issues like terrorism and climate change 
remain persistent.
    Prevailing in this environment will require thoughtful 
strategies and a budget that is structured to meet the 
challenges we face. During today's hearing, I would ask our 
witnesses to update us on the strategic planning documents 
published over the past year, including the National Defense 
Strategy, National Military Strategy, Nuclear Posture Review, 
and Missile Defense Review, and how the 2024 budget will 
execute this strategies.
    An essential element for the United States long-term 
strategic competition will be our ability to build a joint 
capabilities of our Armed Forces across all domains, including 
space, cyber, and information operations. As the Defense 
Department's recently released Joint Concept for Competing 
makes clear, the object of our Nation's adversaries is to win 
without a fight.
    The concept warns that if we do not adapt to the realities 
of long-term competition, ``the United States risks ceding 
strategic influence, advantage, and leverage while preparing 
for war that never comes.'' I am interested to hear from our 
witnesses how this budget supports joint capabilities to ensure 
our military remains the world's premier fighting force.
    To that end, I am encouraged that the budget includes the 
largest ever request for research, development, testing, and 
evaluation, a total of $145 billion. The budget would provide 
significant funding for modernization areas such as 
microelectronics, artificial intelligence (AI), hypersonics, 
and 5G, technologies that will be critical for our national 
defense.
    Our strategy toward China and Russia should not be solely 
defined in dollars by how much, but rather where and why we are 
investing to achieve the greatest comparative advantage. 
Keeping our competition with China front and center, this 
budget request includes $9.1 billion for priorities covered by 
the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or PDI.
    I am encouraged by the progress we have made through PDI 
thus far, and this Committee will continue working to help 
improve the design and posture of the Joint Force in the Indo-
Pacific region.
    This should include strengthening logistics, modernizing 
infrastructure, conducting exercises, and training and building 
the capabilities of our allies and partners. Indeed, our 
approach to the Indo-Pacific should be informed in part by 
lessons drawn from the European Defense and Deterrence 
Initiative, or EDI, which has played a decisive role in 
strengthening Ukraine for the last 9 years.
    The Department's 2024 budget request wisely includes $3.4 
billion for EDI related investments and $300 million for the 
Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. I am also pleased to 
see that this budget request prioritizes taking care of our men 
and women in uniform and the civilians who serve alongside them 
by providing an across the board pay raise of 5.2 percent.
    This pay increase sends an important message to the 
workforce at a time when recruiting is particularly 
challenging. The budget request also includes $16.7 billion for 
military construction projects, and I am particularly pleased 
to see] increases in barracks sustainment. The improvements to 
our facilities' repair and modernization will go a long way 
toward the Joint Force's readiness and quality of life for 
military personnel.
    With regard to our nuclear strategy, I understand that the 
budget request supports important steps for the modernization 
of our nuclear triad. Given the reckless behavior of Putin over 
the past year, our allies and partners depend on our extended 
deterrence now more than ever.
    We must also be acutely aware of China's rapidly growing 
arsenal. Modernization of our strategic forces is needed to 
reassure not only our allies but deter any attack on our 
Homeland by any of our nuclear armed competitors. Even as we 
modernize, we should seek ways to promote strategic stability, 
reduce the risk of miscalculation, and, if possible, reduce 
nuclear stockpiles when verifiable for all parties.
    Given these strategic threats, the proposed investments in 
tried-and-true platforms like the Columbia and the Virginia-
class submarines is a prudent decision. Similarly, this budget 
supports the further development of long-range stealth bombers, 
strengthening the fighter fleet and building up the defense 
industrial base, including upgrades to the Navy's public and 
private shipyards.
    At the same time, taxpayers should not have to pay for 
programs and systems that are wasteful or ineffective, and 
Congress must not shirk its responsibility to divest outdated 
platforms in favor of more effective new technologies. We are 
engaged in a struggle between autocracy and democracy, and we 
cannot fail in succeeding in that struggle.
    Again, I would like to thank the witnesses for their 
participation today. I look forward to the testimony and let me 
now recognize Ranking Member Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I, too, want to 
thank our distinguished witnesses for being here. For the third 
year in a row, President Biden has sent through Congress a 
budget request that cuts military spending amid a more 
dangerous and complex threat environment.
    We are in the most crucial years of our efforts to prevent 
aggression by our peer adversary, the Chinese Communist Party. 
The cost of failure in this effort would be nearly unthinkable. 
Despite international efforts to the contrary, Russia was not 
deterred from invading Ukraine, and that invasion has already 
cost the global economy well over $1 trillion, in addition to 
untold suffering and loss of life.
    These costs will continue to mount unless we give the 
Ukrainians every single tool they need to win as soon as 
possible. Our intelligence community tells us a deterrence 
failure over Taiwan would make the economic effect of Ukraine 
conflict look vanishingly small. This year's budget is the last 
one that funds capabilities that are likely to be fielded 
before 2027.
    That is the year by which Xi Jinping says he wants the 
People's Liberation Army to be ready to take Taiwan. That makes 
our work here very urgent. I am heartened to see that the 
budget request prioritizes some programs of critical importance 
to near-term deterrence and warfighting, including the 
Strategic Capabilities Office, DARPA [Defense Advanced Research 
Projects Agency] led Assault Breaker II, electronic warfare and 
cyber programs, and the emerging efforts to deliver real 
warfighting capability out of the JAC2 program.
    These near-term high return investments are crucial. Even 
so, I remain concerned that we are not moving fast enough on 
some of these efforts. At the same time, while the National 
Defense Strategy emphasizes the importance of our posture in 
the Western Pacific, I note this budget actually cuts the level 
of spending on key planning and design activities.
    This is despite the clear congressional signal sent by 
Senators Reed and Inhofe in the statute when they created the 
Pacific Deterrence Initiative several years ago. We cannot 
successfully deter Xi with a brittle basing and logistics 
infrastructure. Further, we must work together to think bigger 
and more creatively about the scale of investment and focus 
needed to compete with Beijing in the decades to come.
    Our current nuclear modernization efforts are moving too 
slowly and will produce a force ill-equipped to deter multiple 
nuclear armed adversaries. The current approach to rebuilding 
our shipbuilding industrial base is also woefully insufficient. 
The Department of Defense has failed our shipbuilders by 
promising stability and then pulling the rug out from under 
them.
    This has hit amphibious shipbuilders particularly hard. 
This budget also fails by actually shrinking the U.S. Navy this 
year and in future years, instead of growing the fleet as is 
required by law. Congress again will need to rectify these 
failures. Yet even where Congress and the Department of Defense 
have agreed on our approach, such as with the submarine 
industrial base, progress has been too slow or nonexistent.
    We need to make generational investments across our basic 
defense infrastructure, including shipyards, munitions, and 
ammunition plants, advanced test ranges and even barracks for 
our servicemembers. I do appreciate the Chair emphasizing that 
in his statement.
    Similarly, we cannot effectively compete with and deter our 
adversaries with the recruiting deficiencies we have heard 
about, for example, at last week's hearing, I hope our 
witnesses will address this issue and State whether this budget 
contains every single possible investment that could alleviate 
the recruiting crisis. Last, I want to discuss the Department's 
relationship with Congress.
    I think we have some work to do on this front, and let me 
mention two instances. First on February 8, I sent the 
Secretary of Defense a letter asking some simple questions 
about the facts and decisionmaking surrounding the Chinese spy 
balloon. This was signed by Senator Rubio, the co-chair of the 
Senate Intelligence Committee. Three weeks later, the Deputy 
wrote back with a non-answer, which I can only describe as 
dismissive. So, I sent another letter reiterating my request.
    Yesterday afternoon, the day before this hearing, I finally 
received a response to my letter from the Secretary. I have 
significant questions about that response, and I will address 
that in questions for the record. So, that is one thing. Also, 
early last Thursday morning, an Iranian backed attack killed 
one American contractor and injured several United States 
servicemembers in Syria.
    These troops are there to ensure that ISIS [Islamic State 
of Iraq and Syria] does not pose a threat to the United States. 
That very day, the Senate was considering several significant 
votes relating to the use of force against Iran, and yet no 
member of the Senate, to my knowledge, was told that day about 
an attack by this very adversary while we were voting on issues 
involving them.
    Given the number of legislative affairs personnel that the 
Office of the Secretary has, I find it hard to believe that no 
one in the executive branch was tracking the votes on the 
Senate floor or thought of the nexus between our decisions and 
the very acts that were going on, on the other side of the 
globe. It is unacceptable that no one informed the Senate of 
this attack in a timely manner.
    Mr. Secretary and Mr. Chairman, we are all in this 
together. We are all on the same side here. I would strongly 
prefer that the Biden administration treat the Congress as a 
partner moving forward, and I thank the witnesses for appearing 
today.
    Again, I thank them for their service and I look forward to 
their testimony. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Let me 
recognize Secretary Austin. Mr. Secretary, please.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE LLOYD J. AUSTIN III, SECRETARY OF 
                            DEFENSE

    Secretary Austin. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, at the outset, let me 
echo your comments, Chairman, regarding the tragedies that we 
have just witnessed in Mississippi and then Alabama, and our 
condolences go out to all. I am glad to be here with you today 
to testify in support of the President's Budget Request for 
fiscal year 2024.
    I am joined, as always, by General Milley, and I remain 
grateful for his leadership. I am also glad to be joined by the 
Department's Comptroller and CFO, Michael McCord. This is a 
strategy driven budget and one driven by the seriousness of our 
strategic competition with the People's Republic of China. At 
$842 billion, it is a 3.2 percent increase over fiscal year 
2023 enacted, and it is 13.4 percent higher than fiscal year 
2022 enacted.
    This budget will help us continue to implement our national 
defense strategy and the President's National Security 
Strategy. Now I have three key priorities, to defend our 
Nation, to take care of our outstanding people, and to succeed 
through teamwork. The PRC is our pacing challenge and we are 
driving hard to meet it.
    Our budget builds on our previous investments to deter 
aggression. We are investing in a more resilient force posture 
in the Indo-Pacific and increasing the scale and the scope of 
our exercises with our partners. This budget includes a 40 
percent increase over last year's budget for the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative, and it is an all-time high of $9.1 
billion.
    That will fund a stronger force posture, better defenses 
for Hawaii and Guam, and deeper cooperation with our allies and 
partners. This budget also makes the Department's largest ever 
investments in both R&D [research and development] and 
procurement. We are investing--we are requesting more than $61 
billion to sustain air dominance. That includes funding for our 
fighters and extraordinary B-21 strategic bomber that I helped 
unveil last December.
    We are also seeking more than $48 billion for sea power, 
including new construction of nine battle force ships. We are 
boosting capacity in America's shipyards to build the ships 
that our strategy demands. We are investing a total of $1.2 
billion in the submarine industrial base, and we are buying two 
Virginia-class attack submarines and one Columbia-class missile 
submarine.
    On land, we are investing in air and missile defense and in 
defenses to counter unmanned aerial vehicles. We are also 
requesting $11 billion to deliver the right mix of long-range 
fires, including major investments in hypersonics. We will also 
continue to modernize all three legs of our nuclear triad and 
bolster our strategic deterrence. We put forward the largest 
budget, largest space budget in Pentagon history.
    We have requested $33.3 billion to improve our capabilities 
in our resilience in space. Well, let me again thank Congress 
for providing the Department with multi-year procurement 
authorities and appropriations for critical munitions.
    In this budget, we are requesting more multi-year 
procurement authorities, and we are asking for more than $30 
billion to further invest in the industrial base, and to buy 
the maximum number of munitions that American industry can 
produce.
    This budget also moves us away from aging capabilities that 
aren't relevant to future conflicts so we can focus on the 
advances that our warfighters will need. Now our national 
defense strategy calls out Putin's highly aggressive Russia as 
an acute threat. Under President Biden's leadership, the United 
States has rallied the world to help Ukraine fight Russia's 
indefensible invasion.
    We have reinforced NATO's defense and deterrence on its 
Eastern flank. Our allies and partners have provided crucial 
security assistance coordinated through the Ukraine Defense 
Contact Group that I lead. We will support Ukraine's defense 
for as long as it takes. Meanwhile, the Department remains 
vigilant against other persistent threats, including North 
Korea and Iran.
    We will take all necessary measures to defend our troops 
and our interest overseas, as seen in our recent air strikes 
against facilities linked to Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard 
Corps. We are also investing in over the horizon 
counterterrorism capabilities. Mr. Chairman, our Joint Force 
stands ready to meet any challenge.
    You can see the forces readiness after Russia's unprovoked 
invasion of Ukraine, when we swiftly deployed elements of the 
3d Infantry Division to Poland to shore up NATO's Eastern 
flank. We closely monitor readiness at the unit level and 
maintain response forces at our highest State of readiness, 
while the rest of the force, by design, is preparing for future 
contingencies.
    So, this budget will help us maintain our readiness with 
$146 billion in funding for operations, training, and 
maintenance. This budget also invests in improving our 
readiness and resilience in the face of climate change and 
other 21st century threats. Mr. Chairman, we are going to 
remain the strongest military in the world.
    As we mark the 50th anniversary of our All-Volunteer Force, 
I am enormously proud of the brave men and women who choose to 
wear the cloth of our Nation. We owe it to them and to their 
families to take the best possible care of all of our people. 
Over the past 2 years, we have made moves easier, we have cut 
commissary prices, and we have made childcare more affordable.
    This budget funds other key steps to increase the quality 
of life of our teammates, including the largest military and 
civilian pay raises in decades. Now, we are also pushing hard 
to help eliminate suicide in our ranks, including immediate 
steps to hire more mental health professionals and improve 
access to mental health care. Meanwhile, we are working toward 
a military that's free of sexual assault.
    We worked with Congress to improve the response of sexual 
assault and related crimes under the Uniform Code of Military 
Justice, and those reforms will be fully implemented by the end 
of this year. The Department is also investing in a specialized 
workforce to combat sexual assault, harassment, suicide, and 
more.
    Now, the Department's third priority is succeeding through 
teamwork, and our rival network of allies and partners 
magnifies our power and expands our security. In recent months, 
our friends in the Indo-Pacific have taken major steps forward. 
The Philippines has agreed to nearly double the number of sites 
where we cooperate together. Japan is committed to double its 
defense spending.
    Through the historic AUKUS partnership, we will work with 
our Australian and British allies to build game changing 
defense advantages that will deter aggression and boost our 
defense industrial capacity. In sum, Mr. Chairman, this is a 
budget that will meet this moment, and I respectfully ask for 
your support.
    The single most effective way that this Committee can 
support the Department and our outstanding troops is with an on 
time full year appropriation. So, I look forward to working 
with all of you so that we can continue to defend our democracy 
and support the forces of freedom in this hour of challenge. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    [The prepared statement of Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III 
follows:]

               Prepared Statement by Lloyd J. Austin III,
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, distinguished Members of the 
Committee: thank you for the opportunity to testify in support of the 
President's Budget Request for fiscal year 2024.
    On behalf of Deputy Secretary Hicks, the leadership of the 
Department of Defense, and our servicemembers, civilian workforce, and 
their families, let me also thank you for your continued support and 
partnership as we work to defend the United States. I also want to 
thank the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, 
and the Department's Comptroller, Mike McCord, who are both testifying 
with me and are vital partners in realizing the Department's 
priorities.
    The President's $842 billion defense budget request for fiscal year 
2024 provides us with the capabilities and investments to advance our 
three key priorities: defending the Nation, taking care of our people, 
and succeeding through teamwork.
    This is a strategy-driven budget that provides the resources to 
continue to implement our 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS) and the 
President's National Security Strategy. This budget will also enable us 
to strengthen our deterrent and defensive capabilities across domains, 
informed by our 2022 Nuclear Posture Review and our 2022 Missile 
Defense Review.
    As President Biden has said, we are in a ``decisive decade,'' and 
the choices that we make today will set our course for generations to 
come--not just for the United States but for the world. So the 
Department is rising to meet this moment, seizing on opportunities to 
outpace our competitors, strengthen our security, and move our world 
toward a more secure future.
    As our National Defense Strategy makes clear, the People's Republic 
of China (PRC) is the Department's pacing challenge. To meet this 
challenge, the Department is honing new operational concepts, deploying 
cutting-edge capabilities, and making essential investments for the 
long term. This budget request shows it, including requests for the 
Department's largest procurement and R&D budgets ever--$170 billion and 
$145 billion respectively, and our budget request will also help us 
meet the acute threat from Russia, as Russia's unprovoked war of choice 
against Ukraine is now in its second year.
    To maintain our edge, this budget will invest in vital 
technological advancements for the Joint Force, while also reflecting 
the need to eliminate capabilities that no longer best serve our 
national defense. Such decisions can be difficult, but they will enable 
us to invest in the advanced programs that our security demands.
    The Department is also intensely focused on taking care of our 
people, who remain our greatest asset. This budget invests in 
significant quality-of-life improvements, including the largest 
military pay raise in 22 years and the largest civilian pay raise in 43 
years. We remain focused on continuing to recruit, retain, and develop 
the best talent from across the country to serve in both uniformed and 
civilian roles.
    We owe it to our outstanding servicemembers, civilian employees, 
and their families to provide the support that they need to thrive. We 
also owe them environments that reward excellence, promote teamwork, 
and are free from harassment and abuse. So, we are implementing 
military justice reforms, fighting sexual assault, and redoubling our 
efforts to end suicide in our ranks. These challenges are personal 
priorities for me, and this budget paves the way for even more 
progress.
    We rely on teamwork within our Department and beyond it--including 
with our interagency colleagues, Congress, the defense industrial base, 
and our peerless network of Allies and Partners worldwide. That network 
is a strategic advantage that no competitor can match. From rallying 
the world to support Ukraine's fight for freedom to conducting joint 
exercises in the Indo-Pacific with like-minded countries, our Allies 
and Partners are a huge force multiplier. They magnify our power, 
advance our shared security interests, and help uphold a world that is 
free, open, prosperous, and secure, and this budget will support the 
security partnerships that make America even stronger.
    I have never been more confident in the power of our fighting force 
and the talents of our civilian workforce. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
request will help ensure that we meet America's national security 
challenges and use this decisive decade to defend our democracy and 
forge a world of greater security, prosperity, and liberty. I therefore 
ask for your support of our budget and our mission as Congress writes 
authorizing and appropriations bills in the months ahead.
                          defending the nation
    We are deeply aware of our responsibility to be responsible 
stewards of taxpayer dollars. This budget request has been carefully 
prepared to provide the resources for the objectives laid out in our 
2022 NDS, Nuclear Posture Review, and Missile Defense Review.
    The NDS directs the Department to act urgently to sustain and 
strengthen U.S. deterrence, with the PRC as our pacing challenge. The 
NDS also directs the Department to tackle the acute threat of Russia, 
as well as the persistent threats from Iran, the Democratic People's 
Republic of Korea (DPRK), and global terrorist groups.
    The NDS clearly articulates our priorities: defend the Homeland 
from the growing, multi-domain challenge posed by the PRC; deter 
strategic attacks against the United States, our allies, and our 
partners; deter aggression, while preparing to prevail in conflict if 
necessary, by prioritizing the PRC challenge in the Indo-Pacific, 
followed by the Russian challenge in Europe; and build a resilient 
Joint Force and defense ecosystem.
    Within the Department, the NDS is our North Star, and we have 
aligned our processes, policies, and plans to implement it. The fiscal 
year 2024 budget is the latest concrete manifestation of our strategy--
and its deep recognition that the PRC presents a challenge now and in 
the years to come.
              prioritizing the prc as our pacing challenge
    In recent decades, the PRC has demonstrated both the will and, 
increasingly, the economic, diplomatic, military, and technological 
power to reshape its region and the international order to suit its 
preferences. The United States will not let that happen. This budget 
will enable us to continue executing our strategy and outpacing the 
PRC, across all timeframes and domains.
    Through the fiscal year 2024 budget, we will strengthen U.S. 
deterrence and continue advancing new operational concepts, deploying 
cutting-edge capabilities across all domains, and investing in the 
innovations that we will need in the future. Through a $9.1 billion 
request for the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, the largest ever, the 
Department is expanding the scope and scale of our activities to 
reinforce security and stability in the Indo-Pacific region, strengthen 
deterrence, and bolster our advantages and those of our allies and 
partners.
    The Department is also investing in a more resilient posture across 
the Indo-Pacific region. For example, in Japan, Australia, Guam, and 
the Compact of Free Association States, we are forward-stationing and 
deploying more capable forces even as we make major infrastructure 
investments in airfields, logistics, domain awareness, and resilience. 
In addition, throughout Southeast Asia, we are executing rotational 
deployments, logistics cooperation, and targeted security assistance to 
strengthen our partnerships, deepen our interoperability, and enhance 
our collective readiness. This budget allows us to continue to support 
Taiwan's self-defense, consistent with our longstanding commitments 
enumerated in the Taiwan Relations Act, the three United States-PRC 
Joint Communiques, and the Six Assurances.
    Across the Indo-Pacific region, we have increased the complexity 
and scale of our exercises and operations. In addition to building 
interoperability with our allies and partners, we are experimenting to 
build our warfighting advantages, which will help us further refine our 
operating concepts and investments. This budget request will enable us 
to continue that crucial work.
             meeting the acute threat of russian aggression
    Russia's unprovoked further invasion of Ukraine poses a historic 
challenge to European and global security. Russia's campaign of 
conquest is also an attack on the rules-based international order that 
has helped to make the world safer and more secure since its creation 
in the aftermath of World War II. If Russia succeeds, it would send a 
message to other aggressor nations that they can attack and conquer 
their neighbors. With United States leadership, a broad coalition of 
allies and partners have rallied to help support Ukraine's defense of 
its sovereignty.
    Over the past year, the United States has committed more than $32 
billion in game-changing security assistance to support Ukraine's fight 
against Russian aggression. This has helped meet Ukraine's most urgent 
needs--including for air defense, artillery systems, tanks and other 
armored vehicles, and other crucial capabilities--and it has translated 
to tangible gains on the battlefield. In the year since Russia's unjust 
war of aggression began, Ukraine's military forces have won the battles 
of Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Kherson--and they have inspired the world with 
their courage and resilience.
    We will continue to support Ukraine's fight for freedom for as long 
as it takes. To keep pace with Ukraine's urgent security needs even as 
we maintain our own readiness, we are pushing to expand production from 
the defense industrial base. We are focused on increasing the 
resiliency of supply chains that are critical for national security. Ee 
are focused on accountability of the security assistance that we have 
provided.
    Our NATO Allies face a historic challenge from Putin's aggressive 
Russia, and we are making significant investments in bolstering 
European security. Those build on foundational investments in posture 
and presence that we have made in Europe since Russia's 2014 invasion 
of Ukraine and seizure of the Crimea region. These investments paid 
dividends in 2022 when we rapidly surged an additional 20,000 United 
States Forces into the European theater to deter Russian aggression and 
reassure our NATO allies. With little advance notice, the United States 
deployed additional combat power, repositioned United States forces 
already in Europe, and integrated deploying forces with prepositioned 
stocks of munitions and supplies. Our continued investments in posture 
and presence in Europe help deter Russian aggression against NATO--now 
and in the future.
                tackling advanced and persistent threats
    We remain vigilant against the advanced and persistent threats from 
the DPRK, Iran, and global terrorist organizations.
    We continue to shore up security on the Korean Peninsula despite 
the DPRK's provocations, including through bilateral and trilateral 
cooperation. We will continue to stand with our allies, the Republic of 
Korea (ROK) and Japan. We remain steadfast and ironclad in our extended 
deterrence commitments to the ROK and Japan, and we continue to 
demonstrate our ability to respond rapidly and firmly to any DPRK 
provocation. We are working to strengthen and modernize our alliances 
with the ROK and Japan and will continue to ensure that our forces in 
and around the Korean Peninsula are ready to ``Fight Tonight'' in the 
event of DPRK aggression.
    Iran's nuclear program, its dangerous proxies, its support for 
terrorism, its cyber threats, and its proliferation of one-way attack 
unmanned aerial systems (UAS) all undermine Middle East security and 
threaten United States forces and partners. We have acted decisively 
when Iran-backed militia groups have attacked United States forces in 
Iraq and Syria. As Iran deepens its partnership with Russia, including 
Russian military support to Tehran in return for Iranian one-way attack 
UAS to deploy in Ukraine, we are developing and fielding effective 
approaches to counter the proliferating threats from Iran's UAS. This 
budget request seeks to tackle these persistent challenges through 
investments in integrated air and missile defense, maritime domain 
awareness, and counter-UAS systems. We have repeatedly demonstrated our 
ability to deploy combat-credible forces into the region to deter 
potential Iranian aggression, and we will continue to take necessary 
and proportionate military action to defend United States forces and 
facilities from attack, or threat of attack, from Iran or Iran-backed 
proxies. The United States will support and strengthen partnerships 
with countries that subscribe to the rules-based international order, 
and we will make sure those countries can defend themselves against 
foreign threats. These actions have the added benefit of demonstrating 
our commitment to the region's security that will offset the efforts by 
external powers to reshape the region in their interest and to our 
detriment.
    Meanwhile, ISIS, al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups continue to 
threaten the security of the United States, our citizens, and our 
Partners in the Middle East, Africa, and South Asia. We are investing 
in a modernized, over-the-horizon counterterrorism architecture to 
prevent future attacks on our citizens and the United States Homeland, 
and we have proven our continued ability to remove the most threatening 
al Qaeda and ISIS operatives from the battlefield.
    One legislative authority that is key to our ability to tackle 
these advanced and persistent threats--Section 702 of the Foreign 
Intelligence Surveillance Act--expires at the end of this year. Section 
702 provides essential, irreplaceable insights on the activities of 
critical foreign targets. The loss of this authority, or its renewal in 
diminished or unusable form, would profoundly damage the Department's 
ability to see and mitigate some of the most profound threats against 
the United States as well as its allies and partners. Reauthorization 
is therefore a matter of utmost priority. Along with our colleagues in 
the Intelligence Community and the Department of Justice, we look 
forward to working with this Committee and others, in order to secure 
section 702s extension.
                       innovating and modernizing
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request will enable the Department to 
develop, acquire, and modernize across all domains to address all the 
above challenges, especially our competition with the PRC.
    To maintain and expand our advantage over the PRC, we need to 
modernize not just our weapons systems but also our operational 
concepts and the ways that we do business. To operate effectively in a 
dynamic security environment, the Department is prioritizing 
investments to maintain a ready warfighting capability, build a skilled 
defense workforce, and work more effectively with our allies and 
partners.
    A safe, secure, and effective U.S. nuclear deterrent is the 
ultimate backstop to deter strategic attacks on our country and our 
allies. The Department is committed to maintaining and modernizing our 
nuclear triad, while seeking to reduce the role of nuclear weapons in 
U.S. national strategy. The fiscal year 2024 budget request, including 
an investment of $37.7 billion in fiscal year 2024, fully funds the 
nuclear triad and nuclear command, control, and communications, 
demonstrating our commitment to maintain reliable and effective legacy 
systems while pursuing their timely replacements.
    The Department is also accelerating investments in cutting-edge 
defense capabilities, such as uncrewed systems that can operate on the 
water, underwater, in the air, and on land. Integrating human-machine 
teaming, autonomous systems, and resilient networks will make our 
operations significantly faster, more lethal, and more survivable.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request includes $30.6 billion 
specifically for our munitions enterprise. It invests in modernizing 
and growing our munitions industrial base and expanding production 
capacity and procurement quantities. The Department is seeking to use 
the unprecedented multiyear procurement authorities provided by 
Congress to affordably acquire critical munitions, while bolstering our 
inventories and providing our industry partners with a more predictable 
``demand signal.''
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request makes long-term investments of 
$33.3 billion in the resilience of our space architecture in the event 
of an attack. These investments will further expand and diversify 
constellations for space sensing and communications resilience, as well 
as augmenting our space warfighting capabilities. These steps will 
drive even deeper cooperation with the robust American commercial space 
sector.
    In the cyberspace domain, this budget request makes targeted 
investments to speed the development and management of new cyber tools. 
This will help us integrate our sequentially developed Cyber Mission 
Force capabilities. It will also aid our transition to, and sustainment 
of, advanced cyber capabilities from the Department's Science and 
Technology (S&T) activities. These efforts will enhance the 
interoperability and effectiveness of our Joint Cyberspace Warfighting 
Architecture and maintain an efficient pipeline from America's world-
class cyber-innovation workforce into the Department's cyberspace 
operations forces.
    The Department is also adapting to America's changing labor market 
to ensure that we have the right team to execute the NDS. This budget 
funds a new civilian cyber workforce-incentive program to target skill 
gaps, and it develops a curriculum of advanced cyber training for our 
military. We are also increasing investments in international research 
partnerships on critical technologies with our allies and partners.
    Our technological superiority is not a given; we have to work for 
it every day. That includes rapid prototyping and commercial 
integration. So, the Department is investing in tomorrow's technology, 
such as responsible cutting-edge artificial intelligence, enhancing our 
critical supply chains, and modernizing our testing and training 
capabilities.
    The Department continues to vigorously develop and test advanced 
weapons prototypes. Against the backdrop of our recent successful 
flight tests, the fiscal year 2024 budget request expands the 
development of several hypersonic weapons programs, as well as 
demonstration and testing activities. This budget will also improve our 
subsonic cruise missiles to ensure their effectiveness against rapidly 
changing threats and targets.
    The Department is pursuing a range of initiatives to harden U.S. 
basing and ensure that it is resilient against air and missile attacks. 
For example, we have made major investments in missile defenses for 
Guam and Hawaii, as well as infrastructure improvements across the 
entire Indo-Pacific region.
    This budget request also funds the advancement of our joint 
warfighting concepts and the rapid experimentation and fielding of 
emerging capabilities across all domains. Ultimately, these initiatives 
will ensure a Joint Force that is increasingly agile, innovative, 
interoperable with allies and partners, and resilient.
    After decades of combat and coalition experience for our Special 
Operations Forces (SOF) in recent conflicts, we are pioneering new SOF 
approaches to help meet today's primary challenges. This budget enables 
our SOF enterprise to continue to modernize its crisis-response 
capabilities, while developing creative, adaptable, and asymmetric 
options that ensure our Joint Force will present a range of dilemmas to 
our adversaries.
    The Department will also expand the Pacific Multi-Domain Training 
and Experimentation Capability, which will help our forces train in the 
ways and places they may be called upon to fight. These investments 
boost our readiness and lay the foundation for advances in sensor-to-
shooter networks that will multiply our forces' lethality. To improve 
the speed and global integration of our operational decisionmaking, we 
will deliver proven Joint All Domain Command and Control enhancements 
to our warfighters by 2027.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget is rooted in the recognition that our 
competitors and adversaries are not standing still, and we must make 
the right investments now to retain our technological advantages in the 
decades to come.
    The Department will continue to draw on America's longstanding 
strategic advantages by investing in critical innovations--such as 
quantum computing, advanced materials, renewable energy projects, 
integrated networks, and future-generation wireless technology. To 
maintain the United States' position as the global leader in research 
and development, we are cultivating a strong, adaptive, and highly 
skilled workforce of scientists and engineers through programs like the 
Science, Mathematics, and Research for Transformation scholarship-for-
service program.
                  investing to win across all domains
    On land, the fiscal year 2024 budget continues to build a combat-
credible, ready, and lethal Army that can tackle challenges around the 
world. Our budget request seeks to strengthen Army capabilities in the 
Indo-Pacific region, with significant investments in our air and 
missile defenses as well as land-based long-range fires. We are also 
revitalizing and strengthening the Army's Organic Industrial Base by 
modernizing the Army's arsenals, maintenance depots, and ammunition 
facilities.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget builds on past investments in the 
Marine Corps Force Design 2030 concept, which focused on fielding 
capabilities and updating the Corps' force structure in the Indo-
Pacific region. It also makes important new investments in electronic-
warfare capabilities, command and control systems, air and missile 
defenses, and ground-force survivability, as well as in training and 
exercises.
    At sea, this request helps deliver a ready and formidable naval 
force focused on deterring potential aggression from the PRC. The 
budget request continues the transition of our naval force to 
Distributed Maritime Operations, with an increased focus on uncrewed 
surface and underwater vehicles. Our request expands investments in 
long-range fires, more advanced weapons systems, and next-generation 
platforms, including development of the Columbia-class submarine. The 
Department also continues its critical investments in the submarine-
construction industrial base; we will begin investing in better 
submarine-maintenance capacities, and we will increase our investments 
in the optimization of our shipyard infrastructure to make our 
industrial base healthier and more capable of meeting future needs. The 
budget request continues to move the Navy away from systems that are 
ill-suited for operations in highly contested environments.
    In the air domain, the fiscal year 2024 budget request makes 
significant investments to ensure air dominance in future conflicts. 
This includes F-35 and F-22 aircraft modernization, next-generation 
fighter development, and autonomous combat collaborative aircraft. 
These investments complement global strike capabilities such as the B-
21 family of systems. The budget request invests in the development of 
strategic nuclear capabilities, such as Sentinel and the Long-Range 
Stand Off weapon. It also prioritizes long-range fires like hypersonic 
weapons, as well as a modern air command-and-control framework, rapid 
global mobility, and improved electronic warfare capabilities. To fully 
realize the tremendous advantages offered by our next-generation 
fighter and bomber platforms, we are investing in air-launched weapons 
that offer greater range, speed, precision, flexibility, and lethality. 
We are also closing shortfalls in supplying critical munitions by 
accelerating procurement where feasible, as well as expanding and 
procuring additional production capacity for our top-priority air-
launched weapons. Moreover, this budget request continues to 
responsibly make the transition away from air-weapons systems that do 
not support our strategy, even as we invest in the maintenance and 
development of more advanced systems.
    In the space domain, we continue to build our advantages over our 
competitors by investing in missile warning and tracking, data 
transport, communications, and space sensing. This budget request also 
funds upgrades to our launch infrastructure to support more government 
and commercial launches. Consistent with our recently completed Space 
Strategic Review, additional investments will deter hostile uses of 
space, and if deterrence fails, ensure that we can prevail in conflict 
in this domain, too.
    This budget also strengthens our cyberspace operations force, which 
persistently engages both State and non-State cyber actors seeking to 
harm the United States, its interests, and its Allies. It upgrades our 
cyber operations training platform, accelerates the use of cloud-based 
capabilities, and invests in rapidly modernizing the software and 
hardware needed to further fortify our cyber posture.
    Finally, over the past 3 years of the COVID-19 pandemic, we have 
seen the massive impact that biological threats can inflict on our 
country. Accordingly, the President's Fiscal Year 2024 Budget will 
enhance our ability to address any future pandemics or other biological 
threats.
                       meeting the climate crisis
    As the NDS makes clear, climate change is increasingly shaping the 
context in which the Department operates. That places new demands on 
the Joint Force, with implications for our readiness. Climate change is 
also creating new potential points of friction in places such as the 
Arctic, while affecting security relationships with Allies and Partners 
around the world. We are determined to ensure that the United States 
can meet and deal with these challenges.
    This budget therefore invests in enhancing operational capability, 
mission resilience, and readiness. This includes programs that mitigate 
the risk of energy supply disruptions to critical military facilities--
whether caused by extreme weather, cyber operations, or kinetic attack. 
The budget request also includes funding to improve the energy 
efficiency of combat operations and platforms while deploying new 
technology to improve lethality and mitigate logistics risk in 
contested environments. Throughout, our focus is on building our 
operational advantages. These are not only essential steps for the 
climate of the world that we share, but also strategic moves to defend 
our country and strengthen our military.
                       taking care of our people
    The U.S. Military is without a doubt the strongest fighting force 
in human history, and we remain determined to keep it that way. The 
foundation of that strength is our people. The Department is deeply 
committed to taking care of our total workforce by growing our talent, 
building resilience and readiness in the force, ensuring accountable 
leadership, and tackling even the most difficult workforce challenges.
    This budget prioritizes our ongoing actions to take care of our 
outstanding servicemembers, and their families, including by increasing 
servicemember and civilian employee compensation, raising housing 
allowance, and improving military housing. The budget also helps make 
quality childcare more accessible and affordable, including through the 
launch of universal pre-kindergarten at all Department of Defense 
Education Activity schools. We are also making investments to fight a 
range of problematic and harmful behaviors. That includes continued 
efforts to combat sexual assault and sexual harassment, reform the 
military justice system, and prevent suicide in the Force.
                           growing our talent
    To defend our Nation's security, we must tap into the talent that 
exists all across our Nation. We must recruit and retain the best of 
America, building pathways of opportunity for all qualified patriots 
who seek to serve. In this budget, we continue to provide our force 
with exceptional opportunities for service and professional 
development. This means being the employer of choice for personnel with 
technological skills, mastery of foreign languages, and more. We are 
also investing in training and education, as well as creating 
scholarships for science, technology, engineering, and math. We will 
continue to deepen the Department's partnerships with America's best 
universities, paving the way for the next generation of leaders. I am 
proud that the Department recently established its first university-
affiliated research center at an Historically Black College and 
University--just one of the many ways that we are building new ways for 
talented Americans to join our team.
                   building resilience and readiness
    Ensuring the safety, health, and well-being of our servicemembers 
is a sacred trust--and a matter of readiness. We know that when 
economic challenges hit our teammates where they live, it can make it 
even harder to serve. However, we also know that when we take care of 
our servicemembers and ensure they are well trained and well equipped, 
they continue to serve.
    So, in addition to robustly funding the factors that immediately 
contribute to readiness--training, equipping, and maintaining--we have 
made continued investments to support our servicemembers and their 
families, launching targeted initiatives to bring down daily costs for 
servicemembers. Those efforts have made childcare more accessible and 
affordable, lowered prices in the commissary system and made access to 
affordable food easier through online ordering, eased moving costs, and 
increased opportunities for spousal employment and career mobility 
including through the launch of the Military Spouse Career Accelerator 
Pilot, a paid fellowship for military spouses that allows employers to 
connect with this diverse and talented pool of talent. We have also 
raised pay and allowances across the board. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
will support a 5.2 percent pay raise for our servicemembers and our 
civilian employee workforce--the largest pay raise in decades. The 
fiscal year 2024 budget also invests in full day pre-kindergarten at 
all Department of Defense Education Activity schools, providing our 
military children an essential head start on their education. There is 
no greater testament to the resilience and readiness of our force than 
the historically high retention rates across the Services.
                        ensuring accountability
    The Department of Defense is committed to the health, safety, and 
well-being of our servicemembers and will not tolerate prohibited 
harmful behavior. This is a leadership issue, and we will lead. In 
February 2021, I ordered the creation of a 90-day independent review 
commission (IRC) on sexual assault in the military. The Department, 
including the Military Services, are now implementing the IRC 
recommendations that I approved.
    The Department also worked with the President and Congress to enact 
historic legislation improving the response to sexual assault, domestic 
violence, and related crimes under the Uniform Code of Military 
Justice. The Offices of Special Trial Counsel, newly established to 
prosecute these crimes with independence and specialized expertise, 
will reach full operating capability in December 2023.
    We will continue to work relentlessly to end sexual assault and 
related crimes, including through investments in a specialized 
prevention workforce and through important tools like the On-Site 
Installation Evaluations, which help us identify where our efforts are 
working and where more support is urgently needed.
    The Department remains focused on efforts to eliminate suicide in 
the ranks and to respond better when these tragedies occur. This budget 
makes a significant investment in suicide prevention, and we are 
accelerating efforts to expand and increase access to mental health 
care, to including increased hiring and training of mental health 
professionals, to ensure that our servicemembers can access the help 
they need when they need it.
                      succeeding through teamwork
    Our world is increasingly defined by strategic competition, 
profound technological change, and 21st century challenges that pay no 
heed to borders. In this changing strategic environment, the United 
States is far stronger because of the power of our like-minded allies 
and partners, the improvements in industrial exchanges with our 
friends, the integration and development of innovation, and the 
interoperability of our forces. Our cooperation with allies and 
partners is central to co-developing advanced capabilities and rushing 
tangible improvements to our warfighters. These are strategic 
advantages that no rival can match. The Department is deeply committed 
to further strengthening our work with the allies and partners who 
magnify our might.
                         the aukus partnership
    The historic AUKUS partnership breaks new ground in working with 
two of our closest Allies--Australia and the United Kingdom--to take on 
the threats of the 21st century, just as we did together in the 20th 
century. As the President outlined in his State of the Union address, 
we are building bridges between partners in the Pacific and those in 
the Atlantic, and AUKUS is a generational opportunity at the center of 
this change. This initiative translates our strategy into action, and 
it helps to forge a more advantageous balance of power in the Indo-
Pacific, where the United States, Australia, and the United Kingdom are 
actively strengthening deterrence across the region. AUKUS will enhance 
our collective military capabilities, especially in the advanced 
technologies that we believe will be critical for security and 
stability in the future.
    On March 13, 2023, the President announced our plans for the first 
major initiative of AUKUS: providing Australia with a conventionally 
armed, nuclear powered submarine capability. This phased approach will 
allow us provide this capability on the fastest possible timeline, 
while upholding the highest standards for nuclear stewardship and 
setting a precedent that strengthens the nonproliferation regime. As 
the President made clear, our three nations are making concrete 
commitments to each other, and we are backing these commitments up with 
significant investments to strengthen the industrial bases of each of 
our nations.
             allies and partners in the indo-pacific region
    In the Indo-Pacific region, we continue to build and strengthen our 
peerless network of alliances and partnerships. Recent progress only 
underscores the enormous value of our Allies and Partners in the 
region.
    For example, we are working closely with Japan to expand the roles 
and missions of our alliance. We are forward-deploying more versatile, 
resilient, and mobile United States capabilities even as we enhance 
Japan's capabilities, including in counterstrike, unmanned vehicles, 
and counter-hypersonic weapons. We are also increasing our trilateral 
cooperation among the United States, Japan, and Australia, further 
demonstrating regional commitment to a free and open Indo-Pacific 
region.
    We are working with the ROK to ensure that our combined forces are 
able to deter the DPRK and help ensure peace and stability in Northeast 
Asia, including by returning our defensive exercises to historical 
norms.
    In Australia, we have built a deep partnership on technology and 
the development of advanced capabilities, including space cooperation 
and space domain awareness. We are continuing the rotational presence 
of United States capabilities through Australia, across the air, land, 
and maritime domains. Working alongside our ally, we are identifying 
locations to support enhanced U.S. presence with necessary 
infrastructure improvements. In 2022, we also announced that we will 
preposition munitions and fuel to support United States capabilities in 
Australia.
    In the Philippines, we are modernizing the United States-Philippine 
Alliance by enhancing maritime cooperation, improving interoperability 
and information sharing, and adding four important new locations under 
the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement. These steps underscore our 
unwavering commitment to the Mutual Defense Treaty with the 
Philippines.
    In Thailand, we are continuing to strengthen the long-standing 
United States-Thai alliance. Our annual Cobra Gold exercise, for 
example, contributes immeasurably to peace, security, and stability in 
the Indo-Pacific, while ensuring we are prepared to respond rapidly and 
effectively to a humanitarian disaster.
    Meanwhile, with India, we are advancing our Major Defense 
Partnership and launching a new chapter in United States-India ties. 
The Department is bolstering the Indian military's deterrent 
capabilities to ensure that India remains the preeminent power in the 
Indian Ocean and can help uphold a favorable balance of power across 
the wider Indo-Pacific region. We are committed to working closely with 
India on technology cooperation; deepening our interoperability across 
key defense and security domains, including space and cyberspace; and 
ensuring that the United States-India partnership supports the efforts 
of our broader network of like-minded Allies and Partners, especially 
the Quad.
          european security cooperation and support to ukraine
    Under President Biden's leadership, the United States has changed 
the course of history by surging critical security assistance to 
Ukraine over the past year. With the support of Congress, our response 
to Russia's full-scale reprehensible assault on its peaceful and 
democratic neighbor has provided historic levels of security assistance 
to Ukraine through a combination of Presidential Drawdown Authority and 
the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative. The United States has also 
rallied like-minded countries around the world to support Ukraine's 
brave defenders. The engine of our efforts is the Ukraine Defense 
Contact Group, the coalition of some 50 countries that I convene 
regularly to spur and coordinate support to Ukraine. Our Allies and 
Partners have collectively committed approximately $20 billion in 
security assistance to Ukraine, including hundreds of tanks, thousands 
of other armored vehicles, vital air-defense systems, hundreds of 
artillery systems, and other crucial capabilities.
    In the face of the biggest threat to European security since the 
height of the cold war, the NATO Alliance is more united than ever. We 
have moved urgently with our Allies to further fortify NATO and bolster 
its defenses on its eastern flank. Our commitment to Article Five of 
the North Atlantic Treaty remains ironclad. We will not be dragged into 
Putin's war of choice, but we will stand with Ukraine as it fights to 
defend itself, and we will continue to strengthen NATO's collective 
defense and deterrence.
                       building teamwork at home
    Our partners at the Federal, State, local, tribal, and territorial 
levels provide essential support for our servicemembers and their 
families, caregivers, and survivors at military installations and 
communities around the country. The Department is committed to working 
even more closely with these vital partners. Meanwhile, our 
servicemembers continue to proudly support our fellow Americans in 
times of crisis, as they have this year during natural disasters and 
amidst the lingering COVID-19 pandemic.
    At the same time, we are supporting our Federal, State, local, 
tribal, and territorial partners' efforts to become more resilient and 
less reliant on Department of Defense support. Increased national 
resilience will ensure that America stands ready should an adversary 
choose to test our will with cyber or kinetic attacks on the U.S. 
Homeland.
    In addition, our partners in industry remain an engine of 
innovation--one that ensures that our warfighters remain ready to 
tackle the security challenges of this century. Our budget request will 
shore up our defense industrial base, strengthen its ability to produce 
the capabilities that we need, and develop critical technologies for 
the future.
    It is the honor of my lifetime to lead our exceptional and dynamic 
team at the Department of Defense. We continue to strengthen our 
internal processes to ensure that we make timely decisions based on 
rigorous cooperation among civilian and military teams across the 
Department and with our interagency partners. We will demonstrate that 
spirit of partnership at the highest levels, and we will expect it from 
every person in the Department.
                               conclusion
    The way that we respond to today's challenges will help determine 
America's course for generations to come. The Department is seizing 
this inflection point in history. We will never flinch in the defense 
of the democracy that we have vowed to protect, and we will take care 
of all of the extraordinary patriots who comprise the world's strongest 
fighting force.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget enables us to deliver on these 
priorities, and we ask for your support as we build the Department of 
the future. We remain deeply committed to working with Congress on 
oversight and appropriations to ensure that we have the resources that 
our Total Force needs and deserves--today, tomorrow, and in the future.
    We will be good stewards of those resources, for both warfighters 
and taxpayers. Defense reform will ensure that we use taxpayer dollars 
efficiently by modernizing our business processes, improving our 
financial and contract management, and completing the Department's 
audit. Above all, our accountability to both our own forces and the 
American public is core to our democracy and sets us apart from our 
competitors on the world stage.
    Finally, we are grateful for our extraordinary soldiers, sailors, 
airmen, marines, guardians, their families, caregivers, and survivors, 
and civilian employees. They are the foundation of America's strength, 
and we are honored to serve alongside them. Thank you.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. General 
Milley, do you have a statement?

  STATEMENT OF GENERAL MARK A. MILLEY, CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT 
                        CHIEFS OF STAFF

    General Milley. I do, Chairman, and Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify before you today. I 
want to echo the condolences, about the Secretary and the 
Chairman, for the great people of Mississippi and Alabama. 
Tragic losses.
    Our hearts go out to them, and many, many soldiers and 
sailors, airmen, marines in uniform come from your two great 
states, so our hearts go out to you. I have been privileged to 
defend this country for 43 consecutive years in uniform, and as 
the Chairman said, this is likely my last set of posture 
hearings.
    But I do want to thank the Congress for your continued 
support to our military, not only on this budget, but for the 
last 4 decades. I ask that you support this year's request with 
an on-time budget approval. I am honored to represent here 
today the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, and 
families of the United States Joint Force, along with Secretary 
Austin and Mike McCord. I want to publicly thank them both for 
their leadership.
    Our Joint Force, as the Secretary says, is the most lethal 
and capable military in the world because of your support. Our 
purpose, the military's purpose, the uniformed military, is 
simple. It is to defend the United States, and our task is to 
fight and win in all the domains of combat to secure America 
and prevent a great power war.
    Readiness for us in uniform, and readiness now and 
readiness in the future, through modernization, is our number 
one priority, and there is no other number one other than the 
readiness for combat. The joint boards will accomplish this at 
the fiscal year 2024 budget request of $842 billion.
    Right now, as pointed out by Senator Wicker, the 
international system is under stress. For the first time, the 
United States is facing two major nuclear powers whose vital 
national security interests are in competition with the United 
States. Both the People's Republic of China and Russia have the 
means to threaten our interests and our way of life. But war 
with either one is neither inevitable nor imminent.
    A great power war has not happened in the last 80 years, in 
large part because of the rules put in place at the end of 
World War II and the capabilities of the United States 
military, along with our allies and partners. We must remain 
the most powerful Nation and the great power peace then will be 
prevailing.
    The People's Republic of China remains our number one long-
term geostrategic security challenge. The PRC intends to be the 
regional hegemonic Asia within the next 10 years and to exceed 
the United States overall military capability by mid-century, 
and they have publicly said 2049. The PRC's actions are moving 
it down the path toward potential confrontation with its 
neighbors and the United States.
    But again, war with China is neither inevitable nor 
imminent. Additionally, Russia is an acute threat and remains 
quite dangerous. Over a year ago, Russia undertook an illegal 
and unprovoked war against Ukraine, threatening the peace on 
the European continent and global stability.
    We are supporting Ukraine to protect its sovereignty and 
supporting NATO with the United States force presence in every 
single nation on NATO's Eastern flank. This fight is not just 
in Ukraine's interest. It is in the United States interest to 
protect the system that has prevented a great power war. In 
Iran, Iran threatens to push the Middle East into regional 
instability by supporting terrorists and proxy forces, as we 
recently saw.
    Just last week, Iranian aligned groups killed one American 
and injured seven in attacks on coalition bases in Syria. We 
acted immediately to defend our troops and we will continue to 
counter terrorist threats in the region and anywhere else we 
find them.
    Iran has taken actions also to improve its capabilities to 
produce a nuclear weapon. From the time of an Iranian decision, 
Iran could produce enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon 
in less than 2 weeks and would only take several months 
thereafter to produce an actual nuclear weapon.
    The United States remains committed as a matter of policy 
that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. The United States 
military has developed multiple options for our national 
leadership to consider if or when Iran decides to develop a 
nuclear weapon.
    North Korea's continued ballistic missile testing and 
nuclear weapons development pose threats to our Homeland and 
our allies and partners, but we stand together, shoulder to 
shoulder with the Republic of Korea, to deter North Korean 
aggression, as we have for 7 decades.
    Terrorists continue to operate around the globe, 
threatening fear, destruction, destabilization, and this budget 
supports our continued counterterrorism effort. In short, the 
United States military stands ready to protect our Nation's 
interests and the American people. We are currently standing 
watch on freedom's frontier with nearly a quarter of 1.25 
million troops in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East, and 
South America.
    The United States never fights alone. The key source of our 
strength is our large global network of alliances and 
partnerships. Just this month, we conducted 63 operations and 
joint combined exercises globally with our allies and partners. 
Last, our operational readiness rates are higher now than they 
have been in many years.
    Currently, 60 percent of our Active force is at the highest 
State of readiness and could deploy to combat in less than 30 
days, well exceeding our minimum standard of one-third of the 
force, Ten percent, in fact, could deploy in less than 96 
hours. This military, the United States military is ready.
    The Joint Force is at an inflection point, and we must 
balance operations, readiness, and modernization. We must not 
allow ourselves to create the false trap that we can either 
modernize our forces for the future or focus only on today. We 
must do both. We must integrate advancing technologies, 
including precision long range fires, hypersonic weapons, 
quantum computing, artificial intelligence, robotics, and all 
domain sensors.
    The time is now. We have very little margin to wait, and 
the common thread critical to accomplish all of this is our 
people. We must continue investing in training, education, and 
talent management to be prepared for future operating 
environment.
    I urge Congress to support this budget's significant pay 
raise, health care, housing, and childcare initiatives. This 
budget sustains our readiness and adapts the Joint Force to the 
future warfighting requirements. There is nothing more 
expensive than fighting a war. Preparing for war is very 
expensive, but nothing more expensive than fighting it, and 
preparing for war will deter a war, and that is our goal.
    We must act with clear eyed urgency in order to deter a 
great power war. By doing so, no adversary should ever 
underestimate the resolve of our Nation and the strength of our 
military. Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Mark A. Milley follows:]

           Prepared Statement by General Mark A. Milley, USA
                              introduction
    After 43 years in uniformed service, 4 years as Chief of Staff of 
the Army, and 3.5 years as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, this 
will be my last set of posture hearings. I want to thank the Congress 
up front for your continued support to our military, not only this year 
but every year for the last 4 decades. We would not have a military 
without the generous support of the American people and their elected 
representatives. Thank you for what you have done and, yet again, I ask 
that you support this year's request with an on-time budget approval.
    I am honored to represent the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, 
guardians, and their families of the United States Joint Force. They 
are the most lethal and capable military in the world. Our troops are 
the best led, best equipped, and best trained force anywhere because of 
your support. Side by side with our allies and partners, American 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, and guardians are standing watch in 
158 countries and conducting operations every day of the year to keep 
Americans safe.
    The United States military is a key component of our national 
power. In concert with our diplomatic corps, economic organizations, 
and democratic institutions, we support efforts to sustain a stable and 
open international system. This hard and soft power provides a range of 
options to this legislative body and the Commander-in-Chief. Our 
strength deters adversaries and preserves peace. Although, if 
deterrence fails, the United States military is prepared to fight and 
win against those who attack the United States or our vital interests.
    The Joint Force appreciates the work that our elected 
representatives do to ensure that we have the resources needed to 
train, equip, and man the force in order to be ready. The increased 
level of military funding beyond last fiscal year will ensure we 
continue future modernization while simultaneously meeting the national 
security readiness requirements of today.
    The Joint Force will deliver modernization of our armed forces and 
security to the people of the United States at the fiscal year 2024 
budget request of $842 billion. The people of the United States, 
through this body, have committed significant funding and we will work 
diligently to ensure it is spent prudently in the best interest of this 
Nation. This budget will enable the investments and transformations 
necessary to build the Joint Force of 2030 and beyond.
    In alignment with the National Defense Strategy (NDS) and National 
Military Strategy (NMS), this budget delivers a ready, agile, and 
capable Joint Force that will defend the Nation, while taking care of 
our people, and working with our partners and allies. There are direct 
linkages from the NDS and NMS to the Joint Warfighting Concept (JWC) 
which describes how we will employ and succeed as a Joint Force. The 
JWC is threat informed and fully integrated into our resourcing and 
requirements processes to build the force required for the future.
    Stable, predictable, and timely budgets are critical for this 
Nation's defense. The passage of these budgets enables proper planning, 
prioritization, and programmatic investments necessary for continued 
progress. Continuing resolutions risk future modernization and impair 
our ability to meet our missions.
    Preventing great power war through readiness and deterrence is very 
expensive but not as expensive as fighting a war and the only thing 
more expensive than fighting a war is losing a war. This budget is a 
significant step in the right direction to ensure that the United 
States military maintains the current readiness and develops the future 
modernization necessary to deter war and, if deterrence fails, to fight 
and win.
                         strategic environment
    The People's Republic of China (PRC): War with the PRC is neither 
imminent nor inevitable, however the potential for armed conflict is 
growing. The PRC remains our #1 long-term geostrategic security 
challenge. Since the reforms of Deng Xiaoping in 1979, the world has 
witnessed the greatest geopolitical shift in economic power in over 100 
years. In the wake of the PRC's economic growth has come rapidly 
increasing PRC military capability. Using economic and military hard 
power, the PRC's goal is to revise the global international order by 
midcentury, and it intends to be the regional hegemon in Asia within 
the next 10 years. Its intention is to exceed the United States' 
military capability within the Western Pacific in the next decade and 
to exceed the United States' overall military capability by 2049.
    The PRC continues to take increasingly aggressive actions to 
reshape the Indo-Pacific region and revise the global order. It is 
making significant economic investments in its military to improve 
technology and modernize its military forces. The PRC continues to 
challenge the stability and security in the Pacific as well as across 
the globe. Through economic coercion, the PRC is expanding its global 
footprint and increasing its ability to project military power at range 
and scale. It is aggressively modernizing its military in order to 
protect its authoritarian interests and are prepared to use force if 
required. The PRC seeks to strengthen its hard power enabling the PRC 
to coerce others with militarily might. These PRC actions continue to 
move its nation down the path toward confrontation and conflict.
    The PRC remains focused on revising the global international order 
by midcentury. In short, the PRC continues to develop significant 
nuclear, space, cyber, land, sea, and air capabilities. It is working 
every day to close the technology gap with the United States and our 
allies. We must maintain our military superiority over the PRC in all 
the domains of war if we are to preserve the great power peace of the 
last 80 years. The PRC represents a real and growing national security 
challenge. This is a matter of national urgency.
    History is not deterministic and war with the PRC is not 
inevitable. While the PRC is clearly an increasingly capable strategic 
competitor, it is imperative that we keep our relationship in 
competition and not in conflict. By maintaining a strong military with 
overmatch against the PRC, we are postured to deter conflict with the 
PRC. Through integrated deterrence, we will raise perceived costs to 
the PRC and deter aggression. If deterrence fails, then we will end the 
conflict on terms favorable to the United States.
    Russia: Over 1 year ago, Russia undertook an illegal and unprovoked 
war against Ukraine threatening peace and stability on the European 
continent--a peace that ensures global stability and an international 
order where all nations can prosper. Russia's invasion of Ukraine is in 
complete contradiction to the basic rules that underline the United 
Nations Charter established at the end of World War II. Russia's war is 
a brazen assault against the free people of Ukraine and threatens to 
destabilize all of Europe and beyond.
    In response to this Russian war of choice, we are supporting 
Ukraine as it fights to protect its sovereignty and supporting our NATO 
allies with a United States force presence in every single nation on 
NATO's eastern flank. Putin's war of choice has caused untold human 
suffering and terrorized a free country and its people. Putin attempted 
to seize Kyiv, overthrow its government, and fracture the NATO 
alliance. NATO remains more unified than ever, and Ukraine remains free 
and independent.
    The Ukrainian people have demonstrated immense bravery and 
resilience and inspired the world. The international community has come 
together to ensure that this unambiguous act of aggression by Russia 
does not go unanswered. This fight is not just in Ukraine's interests, 
it is in the global interest to protect the system and rules that have 
prevented great power war since the conclusion of World War II.
    With the backing of the U.S. Congress, the United States is 
determined to continue to support Ukraine with the means to defend 
themselves. The United States has committed to provide Ukraine 160 
155mm Howitzers, over 1,000,000 155mm artillery rounds, 38 High 
Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS), a Patriot air defense 
battery, 8 National Advanced Surface-to-Air Missile Systems (NASAMS), 
31 Abrams tanks, and 109 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicles.
    A broad mix of air defense systems protect the skies over Kyiv and 
the cities of Ukraine. Armor systems strengthen Ukrainian front lines 
enabling offensive and defense operations. Ukrainians employ long range 
fires to challenge Russian command and control and its ability to 
sustain Russian aggression. These systems will enable Ukraine to ensure 
that Russia does not achieve its strategic objectives. Russia failed in 
its initial war aims and continues to revise its strategic goals due to 
its sustained operational failures. Russia continues to pay extremely 
heavy costs on the battlefield.
    Last year, in Poland, we established the first permanent United 
States installation on NATO's eastern flank. The United States 
maintains significant numbers of combat capable forces in Europe to 
deter aggression and to stand shoulder to shoulder with our allies and 
partners.
    Russia retains a large nuclear capability to threaten the United 
States, Europe, and the globe. Vladimir Putin and his regime continue 
to use irresponsible nuclear rhetoric and posturing. Russia has 
repeatedly demonstrated its capability and will to conduct complex 
malicious cyber activities targeting American digital infrastructure, 
both military and commercial.
    Through private military companies, Russia continues to undermine 
other nations' sovereignty and create unstable security situations. 
Aside from its brutal war in Ukraine, Moscow's actions in Africa and 
the Middle East demonstrate its aggressiveness, resourcefulness, and 
opportunism. Russia is an immediate acute and very dangerous challenge 
to the United States' national security.
    North Korea: Its continued weapons testing and development pose 
real threats to our Homeland as well as allies and partners in the 
Indo-Pacific. North Korea's rhetoric is becoming increasingly 
aggressive as it is growing more confrontational and continues to 
enhance its ballistic missile capability and capacity. Pyongyang shows 
no signs of relenting in its focus on its Weapons of Mass Destruction 
(WMD) program at the expense of its citizens and the peace of the 
Korean Peninsula as well as the entire region. Readiness of United 
States military forces on the Korean Peninsula and our ability to 
rapidly respond to provocation ensure stability and prevent war.
    Iran: Iran's support for and involvement in conflicts in the region 
and its neighbors threaten to push the Middle East into broader 
regional instability and chaos. Through its funding of terrorist 
activities and support to partner and proxy forces inside the borders 
of its neighbors, along with its ballistic missile programs, Iran seeks 
to revise the regional order and balance of power in its favor. Iran's 
proliferation of UAVs across the region and into Russia pose critical 
security challenges for the United States and our partners. Iran is 
taking actions to improve its capabilities to produce a nuclear weapon, 
should it make the decision to do so, while continuing to build its 
missile forces. From the time of a national decision, Iran could 
produce enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon in approximately 
10-15 days and it would only take several months to produce an actual 
nuclear weapon. The United States remains committed, as a matter of 
policy, that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon. The United States 
military has developed multiple options for our national leadership to 
consider, if or when Iran decides to develop a nuclear weapon.
    Violent extremist organizations: Terrorist organizations such as 
Al-Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Shabaab, and others continue to export terror, 
destruction, and destabilization. Unless the root causes of instability 
that give rise to these types of groups are resolved, terrorists will 
continue to take root around the globe, threaten others with attacks, 
and undermine legitimate governments. The root causes can only be 
effectively addressed by including governments of the region and we can 
best influence outcomes with diplomatic, economic, information, 
stability, and counterterrorism efforts. Through coalition efforts to 
train, advise, and assist partners and allies as well as intelligence 
sharing, we will continue to ensure that terrorists do not possess the 
capacity and capability to exert their will. Our counterterrorism 
strategy is to work by, with, and through our regional allies and 
partners and to conduct direct action counterterrorism strikes when 
necessary to protect the United States or our interests.
    Allies and partners: Our alliances and partnerships are key to 
maintaining the rules based international order and a stable and open 
international system promoting peace and prosperity. This budget allows 
us to build our partners' and allies' capabilities, foster 
interoperability, and strengthen relationships. Doing so allows us, our 
allies, and our partners to counter the coercion of our strategic 
competitors, oppose the malign activity of regional threats, and meet 
the varied security challenges posed by State and non-State actors. We 
are stronger when we operate closely with our allies and partners.
                      readiness and modernization
    Right now, we are experiencing a fundamental change in the 
character of war. The character of war--how, where, and with what 
weapons and technologies wars are fought--is changing significantly. We 
must fully integrate developing technologies including precision long 
range fires, hypersonic weapons, quantum computing, artificial 
intelligence, robotics, and pervasive all-domain sensors.
    The current rapidly changing technology will provide decisive 
advantage to the nations that can integrate and fuse the capabilities 
into military weaponry, doctrine, training, organization, and 
professional development. The future operating environment will be 
highly lethal and will be characterized by the ability to see and sense 
the environment like never before. The attributes of the future Joint 
Force will be characterized by stealth, resilience, speed, distributed, 
agile, adaptive, in a constant State of motion, and, most importantly, 
highly lethal. Our leaders and forces will operate independently in 
degraded communication environments with mission type orders in austere 
logistics.
    Continued modernization is imperative for the Joint Force. Building 
the Joint Force required to implement our National Defense Strategy 
requires modernizing our capabilities, design, and employment. We must 
not allow ourselves to create the false trap that we can either 
modernize or focus only on today. We must do both. The United States 
has always had the advantage of time to conduct a long buildup prior to 
the beginning of hostilities. Our fortunate geography with oceans on 
our east and west borders and friendly neighbors to our north and south 
have given us the strategic advantage of buffer zones to threats. With 
advances in technology and a growing global interconnectedness, we will 
no longer have the luxury of a long protected buildup prior to 
conflict. It is imperative that we have a modern advanced force in 
sufficient size and readiness to enable sustained deterrence and, if 
required, to be able to fight and win. We must make some fundamental 
changes to our Joint Force in order to leverage our military overmatch 
to deter conflict in a future operating environment.
    Our strategic competitors are modernizing their militaries, 
weapons, and capability. We must continue to modernize ours; we have no 
choice. We must divest legacy systems to enable the modernization of 
our forces.
    In the fall of 2019, the Secretary of Defense tasked the Joint 
Staff to develop the Joint Warfighting Concept (JWC) to address 
strategic conflict. This year, the Joint Staff published the third 
iteration of JWC and will integrate the ideas into new joint doctrine. 
Today, JWC is the unifying vision to guide future force design, force 
development, and force employment to ensure we have the right people, 
equipment, training, roles, and doctrine. It will continue to 
incorporate evolving threats to help us shape our strategic environment 
and future operations. JWC 3.0 contains an updated description of the 
overarching military challenges facing the Joint Force, a refined 
explanation of the military solution--expanded maneuver--and a detailed 
description of how the Joint Force will apply this solution. This 
version of the JWC includes greater fidelity on key warfighting 
concepts and more precision on the operational approaches that will 
enable the Joint Force to gain positions of advantage against peer 
adversaries.
    Joint All Domain Command and Control (JADC2) is a warfighting 
capability to sense, make sense, and act at all levels and phases of 
war, across all domains, and with partners, to deliver information 
advantage at speed to our forces and decisionmakers.
    We are revising our leader development Joint Professional Military 
Education (JPME) to support the JWC. We are modernizing our JPME 
curriculum to develop strategically minded joint warfighters, who think 
critically and can creatively apply military power. Our focus remains 
on instructing mission command, operational agility, and ethics to 
ensure our military leaders can effectively employ forces at all levels 
of warfare and respond to a dynamic battlefield. Additionally, we are 
increasing the amount of JPME devoted to the study of the changing 
character of war and Great Power Competition.
    We are focused on building a more lethal Joint Force by ensuring 
that we continue to modernize our concepts, doctrine, training, and 
military education. We must continue to invest in capabilities that 
sustain our military overmatch, while strengthening alliances and 
attracting new partners. Investments in this budget ensure the Joint 
Force can execute all requirements leveed by our Nation. The 
investments made in this budget will ensure that we remain a capable 
and ready force while funding our priorities of nuclear modernization, 
long range fires, hypersonic technology, artificial intelligence, 
robotics, shipbuilding, space, and cyber.
    Nuclear modernization: The nuclear triad is the foundation of our 
strategic deterrent. Our adversaries are improving their nuclear 
posture and potential nuclear threats continue to emerge. It remains 
critical that all three legs of the triad--bombers, intercontinental 
ballistic missiles, and submarines--remain a viable deterrent and allow 
us to hedge against geopolitical, technological, operational, and 
programmatic risks. Our legacy systems have been extended well beyond 
their original service lives and we must recapitalize our nuclear 
enterprise. Modernizing the nuclear triad will cost 3.7 percent of the 
Defense budget at its peak not including DOE/NNSA warhead 
modernization. Costs will be significant but relatively less burdensome 
on the overall Defense budget relative to previous recapitalization 
efforts. Modernization of our nuclear forces, weapons complexes, and 
requisite nuclear command, control, and communications (NC3) 
capabilities are a high priority.
    Long range fires: The war in Ukraine highlights the strategic and 
devastating effect provided by long range fires. The Joint Force must 
have a long range strike capability without having to also maintain air 
superiority. Long range fires provide significant offensive 
capabilities that are both cost-effective and cost-imposing means of 
improving deterrence. By enabling power projection from standoff 
ranges, the risk to critical United States assets decreases while the 
defensive burden imposed upon the enemy increases. These fires 
challenge an adversary's logistics, command and control, and basing 
forcing them to choose between increased risk or decreased 
effectiveness. The PRC has thousands of ground-launched theater-range 
missiles in its arsenal that would be difficult for the United States 
to counter given its current inventories. Investments in long range and 
hypersonic missiles launched from ground, sea, and air platforms are a 
cost-effective strategy that improves our ability to compete with the 
PRC. Recent budget requests have enhanced the lethality and resilience 
of the Joint Force by developing and expanding the long-range fires 
portfolio.
    Hypersonic technology: Our adversaries are undertaking hypersonic 
weapons testing and development from a variety of delivery platforms. 
These weapons operate at speeds greater than Mach 5 and are 
maneuverable, which make the weapons challenging to detect and defeat. 
Weapons operating at these speeds will provide significant offensive 
capability that will challenge an opponent's decision timelines. We 
must invest in this technology to provide a suite of capabilities that 
provide transformational warfighting capability to our Joint Force.
    Artificial intelligence and robotics: Decisionmaking in warfare is 
fundamental to the outcome. Militaries must be able to collect, 
analyze, and assess vast quantities of data in order to make effective 
decisions. The military that can iterate through the decisionmaking 
framework fastest will have decisive advantage. Artificial intelligence 
has the potential to reform military decisionmaking processes at the 
tactical, operational, and strategic levels of war to enable rapid 
assessments and decisions that outpace human abilities. Additionally, 
artificial intelligence combined with new military platforms could 
enable the proliferation of robots across the battlefield. Robots in 
the land, sea, and air domains could provide significant quantities of 
firepower, logistics, and communications capabilities while decreasing 
risks to our military forces. Through human-machine teaming, each human 
warfighter would have exponentially increased abilities to shoot, move, 
and communicate in battle to prevail over the enemy.
    Legacy platform divestment: Maintaining and operating weapons that 
are not relevant in the future fight and whose capabilities are matched 
by superior technology need to be divested. Continuing to purchase and 
maintain legacy equipment takes needed Defense dollars away from the 
acquisition of higher priority systems necessary for modernization. I 
strongly urge Congress to enact legislation that authorizes the 
Department to divest select legacy platforms to ensure that every 
Defense dollar spent on programs and equipment is relevant for the next 
fight. We must not be influenced by a sunk cost bias, and we cannot 
continue to mortgage our future by being wedded to technology of the 
past.
    Shipbuilding: The United States Navy must always be the world's 
most powerful naval force in capacity and capability. We must never 
accept 2d place in naval power. We are a maritime nation and the vast 
majority of international trade moves across the world's oceans. The 
United States is committed to a free and open global maritime common. 
Manufacturing our warships overseas is a strategic risk and is not in 
our national interest. Our shipbuilding and supporting vendor base are 
a national security capability that needs support to grow and maintain 
a skilled workforce. The fiscal year 2024 President's Budget reflects 
the Administration's strong commitment to continued American naval 
dominance, including improvements to our industrial base to meet the 
demands of our current and future defense needs. This Nation must have 
the right ships, with the right crews, and the right capabilities on 
the right timelines in the theaters where they matter. This budget 
specifically procures warships and submarines with credible combat 
power to deter the PRC. We must continue to invest in the industrial 
base to support remotely operated ship development, fleet 
modernization, on time delivery of the COLUMBIA class submarine, and to 
accelerate production and maintenance of VIRGINIA class submarines to 
support both the United States and AUKUS needs.
    Recapitalization of the sealift fleet is necessary to enable joint 
power projection. Sealift ships transport 90 percent of war material 
and supplies in support of major combat operations. The DOD sealift 
fleet is approaching the end of its useful life with an average age of 
48 years. Our overall sealift readiness rate is consistently below our 
stated requirements. I urge Congress to remove all limitations on the 
Department's ability to procure additional used vessels to replace 
these aging ships.
    Space: Space is essential to our way of life. Space capabilities 
are vital to our economy, quality of life, exploration initiatives, and 
national security. Every year we see additional commercial space 
launches and increased competition for lower earth orbit.
    Our adversaries view space as a warfighting domain and believe that 
achieving supremacy in this arena will be a decisive factor in winning 
future conflicts. The exosphere is already contested as Russia has 
tested both a ground-based anti-satellite missile and an on-orbit anti-
satellite weapon prototype, which threaten our space capabilities. Both 
the PRC and Russia view counterspace capabilities as a means to reduce 
United States and allied military effectiveness. Additionally, our 
adversaries have demonstrated space-jamming capabilities and maintain 
independent launch capabilities. Left unsecured, our capabilities in 
space will become strategic vulnerabilities. I urge Congress to support 
the significant increase in this budget for United States space 
capabilities.
    Cyber: Adversaries continue to use operations in the cyber domain 
to compete with the United States and attempt to gain an information 
advantage. Malign cyber actors exploit commercial software 
vulnerabilities to gain network access and conduct cyber operations 
against United States citizens, organizations, and institutions. The 
low-cost barrier to entry and attribution deniability make this a 
priority method for adversaries to compete below the level of armed 
conflict while minimizing risk of escalation. The PRC, Russia, Iran, 
and North Korea use a range of cyber capabilities from information 
operations (IO) to cyber-attacks to collect intelligence, position for 
future operations, impose costs, and signal to the United States and 
adversaries.
    Therefore, we must increase our ability to compete and prevail in 
cyberspace while ensuring all elements of informational power are 
integrated into operations, activities, and efforts to deter our 
adversaries and protect the United States Homeland. This requires 
investments in technology, building and maturing cyber readiness and 
operations, reducing risk to weapon systems and critical 
infrastructure, strengthening cybersecurity, and improving network 
resiliency.
    Advanced Capabilities: The changing character of war necessitates 
that we continue to modernize and innovate our technology, 
capabilities, and training. Data and communication networks are 
fundamental to how the United States trains, plans, and employs force. 
We must have rapid and robust linkages from sensors to shooters in a 
networked information environment. This will require investments in 
microelectronics and quantum computing to ensure we maintain a 
technological edge over our adversaries. The current globally 
distributed supply chains as well as access to critical materials and 
rare earth metals present vulnerabilities to the Joint Force's ability 
to acquire necessary parts and technology in the event of crisis. We 
must also find ways to deepen collaboration on advanced capabilities 
with our closest allies and partners, such as our trilateral 
cooperation under AUKUS.
                       taking care of our people
    People are our most important resource in the Joint Force. We must 
ensure that we are doing all that we can to take care of and guard our 
most critical resource. Taking care of people is a critical readiness 
issue and it decisively impacts unit cohesion, recruitment, retention, 
and confidence in leadership.
    To attract, grow, and retain the best talent in the world, we must 
ensure that we are always taking care of our people. I urge Congress to 
support this budget's significant pay raise, healthcare, and housing 
initiatives. Additionally, this budget strengthens our accountability 
and prevention measures for sexual harassment and sexual assault. 
Finally, this budget supports improving our mental health and suicide 
prevention programs. Each of these initiatives is fundamental to taking 
care of our troops and their families.
    We are ensuring that the military departments increase their 
childcare capacity, and the DOD system remains the gold standard of 
childcare. The DOD operates the country's largest employer-sponsored 
childcare program, with over 27,000 staff members providing daily care 
for more than 160,000 children from infancy up to age 12. This fiscal 
year, the DOD is making a significant investment in constructing new 
child development centers as well as repairing, renovating, and 
maintaining existing child development centers to ensure our children 
are in safe and well-maintained facilities. Funding support from 
Congress is vital for fully staffed military childcare, and to support 
efforts to expand capacity in the community. Childcare is key to 
keeping working families working, reducing the high unemployment faced 
by military spouses, and ensuring the safety of our military children. 
Despite the childcare capacity and quality provided by the DOD there 
are still challenges for military families to access that care or 
quality care in the community.
    This budget equips our servicemembers and families with the tools, 
skills, and resources necessary to ensure their health and well-being. 
The health and wellness of our force is a readiness, retention, and 
recruitment issue.
    The Joint Force is committed to growing our talent and ensuring 
that all who meet the requirements to serve are able to serve. The 
Joint Force competes for the talent of America's youth along with every 
other business and organization who seeks our Nation's best and 
brightest. The Joint Force's objective is to field the most lethal and 
combat effective fighting force in the world. We will continue to 
support the accessions of all qualified people to all jobs and 
positions within the Joint Force.
                               conclusion
    The United States Joint Force is a flexible and adaptable force 
ready to deter, fight, and win our Nation's wars. Significant threats 
exist across the globe and the United States is ready to respond to 
these challenges. The PRC continues its aggressive attempts to revise 
the global order for its own benefits. It is building up its military 
might to achieve its goals through the use of force. With its illegal 
and unprovoked war in Ukraine, Russia attempted to overturn the rules 
based international order and fracture NATO. Russia's war of aggression 
and nuclear rhetoric is irresponsible and risks miscalculation and 
escalation.
    International aggression, where large countries use military force 
to attack smaller countries and change recognized borders, cannot be 
allowed to stand. The Joint Force will continue to work with the 
interagency and in cooperation with our allies and partners to deter 
aggression and threats to the free world. America's network of allies 
and partners is a strategic source of strength. It is this robust 
network, this team of teams, that stands against those autocratic, 
revanchist, and revisionist regimes that are uninterested in a 
connected and prosperous world.
    It is within this framework that it is imperative we modernize our 
force, training, and doctrine to remain the most capable and ready 
force on the planet. The United States has been challenged before by 
many other adversaries. Yet, conflict is not inevitable--our military 
might makes war less likely by allowing us to deter across the spectrum 
of conflict. Our contract with the American people is that we, the 
United States military, will always be ready to protect the 
Constitution and the fundamental principles of what it means to be 
American. We will always protect and defend this experiment in liberty, 
to deter our enemies, and, if deterrence fails, then to fight and win.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Milley. 
Secretary McCord, do you have a statement?
    Mr. McCord. No, Mr. Chairman, other than to wish your staff 
director a speedy recovery.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Secretary Austin and 
General Milley, logistics is not the most exciting topic, but 
in many cases, it is one of the most crucial topics, 
particularly in the Pacific where distances are much an enemy 
as our opposing forces.
    First, Mr. Secretary and then General Milley, can you 
comment upon the investments we are making in modernizing our 
logistics, particularly INDOPACOM area, Command and control 
activities that would help deliver these resources to our 
troops?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Chairman. As I stated earlier, we 
in this budget, we are asking to invest some $9.1 billion in 
the Pacific Deterrence Initiative. That will enable us to 
strengthen forward infrastructure so we can continue to forward 
deploy troops.
    That will enable us to deter further forward in theater. In 
addition to that, we have pushed a number of our sustainment 
elements like fuel further in into the theater, and we continue 
to make sure that we have a diverse and agile footprint so that 
we can rapidly respond to any challenge.
    But I think that we are investing in the right things and 
going after the right capabilities to make sure that we can 
operate further forward.
    Chairman Reed. General Milley, please.
    General Miley. Yes, Senator. Thank you. The key here is--
one of the keys here is ammunition. The Secretary has directed 
that we analyze all of our ammunition stoppages in light of 
what is going on in Ukraine.
    Well, that is a key area that we need to increase our 
capabilities here in the coming years, is ammunition. The 
second piece there is lift. In the area of lift, both sealift 
and airlift, there is a lot of investments in this budget and 
previous budgets.
    That will be an area that requires continued sustained 
levels of effort, is in order to move the force, projecting 
power is a key attribute of the U.S. Military, and we do that 
through sealift and airlift.
    That is the second key point, and the last one, I would 
say, is the posture. The Secretary has initiated a series with 
the INDOPACOM Commander, a series of posture adjustments in the 
Pacific, which should better position us for sustainment, 
logistical sustainment, if any conflict ever happens.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Mr. Secretary, we are 
in a moment where we are having a challenge getting general 
officers off the floor of the Senate and to their assigned 
stations after they have been recommended by the Department of 
Defense and cleared in terms of their performance and their 
capabilities.
    Can you tell us what the cumulative effects of this would 
be in terms of denying promotions to people who are going to 
take key jobs?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Chairman. The effects are 
absolutely critical in terms of the impact on the force. This 
is one of the busiest times or one of the most complex times 
that we have seen 
lately.
    We see a war, the largest conflict in Europe since World 
War II. We see an aggressive China operating in the Indo-
Pacific. We see Iranian backed elements going after our troops, 
and there are a number of things happening globally that 
indicate that we could be in a contest on any one given day.
    Not approving the recommendation for promotions actually 
creates a ripple effect through the force that makes us far 
less ready than we need to be. If you look at what we have 
coming up, I mean, there are three, I think--well, five, three-
star promotions that are near term, and one of those is a 
Commander of our fleet out in the Gulf. That is a critical 
position, and then that starts to multiply, 70 more positions, 
three-and four-star positions over time.
    They include the chiefs of the Army, the Marine Corps, the 
Navy, and also the Chairman's replacement at some point in 
time, although nobody wants to see that happen. So, the effects 
are cumulative and it will affect families, it will affect kids 
going to schools because they won't be able to change their 
duty station, and so, it is a powerful effect and will impact 
on our readiness.
    Chairman Reed. As I look forward, I have never in my almost 
3 decades here seen so many key military positions coming up 
for replacement. We have the Commandant of the Marine Corps, 
the Chief of Staff for the Army, the CNO [Chief Naval Officer] 
of the Navy, and as you mentioned, the Chairman of the Joint 
Chiefs of Staff by law has to leave in September.
    If we cannot resolve the situation, we will be, in many 
respects, leaderless and at a time of great conflict. So, I 
would hope we would expedite and move quickly on this front. 
Thank you. With that, let me recognize Senator Wicker.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me just start 
with a couple of short answers--I hope these will be. Secretary 
Austin, first, would you agree that this is the most complex 
and dangerous threat environment since World War II?
    Secretary Austin. Yes, Senator, I would say that is one of 
the most complex periods that we have seen.
    Senator Wicker. General Milley.
    General Miley. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Wicker. Over the past 2 years, Congress has added 
nearly $30 billion to the President's request in fiscal year 
2022 and $45 billion to the President's request in fiscal year 
2023--$75 billion added over the request of the President. Have 
these additional resources increased our national security and 
decreased military risk? Mr. Secretary.
    Secretary Austin. They have, Senator. It always helps when 
you get additional resources, but if you get additional 
resources with additional requirements, it doesn't help as 
much.
    Also, if we can stop doing some of the things that create a 
drag on our force in terms of cau]sing us to spend money on 
things that are not relevant in a future fight, that also helps 
as well. We appreciate Congress's support in the past for 
allowing us to get rid of things that are no longer relevant.
    Senator Wicker. You are welcome on that. General Milley, 
same question. Has the $75 billion added to our national 
defense expenditures--have those funds increased our national 
security?
    General Miley. Yes, I believe they have.
    Senator Wicker. Decreased military risk?
    General Miley. Correct.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Thank you very much. Secretary 
Austin, the Biden administration has authority to send $1 
billion worth of United States weaponry to Taiwan. That is 
similar to the policy and the authority we authorized with 
regard to Ukraine. Will the Biden administration exercise this 
$1 billion and draw down the authority that Congress provided 
last year?
    Secretary Austin. We will, Senator. My team is working 
diligently to make sure that we have the right capabilities in 
that particular draw down. Of course, we have the authority. We 
will need the appropriations as well.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, you will need an appropriation to 
replenish that. Is that correct?
    Secretary Austin. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. The Administration will be requesting a 
replenishment funding for the transferred defense articles. Is 
that correct?
    Secretary Austin. That is correct.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Let me then talk about your 
assessment with regard to Ukraine, I believe you told me, 
Secretary Austin, that you believe Ukraine now has the upper 
hand in the war against Russia. Is that correct?
    Secretary Austin. That is correct. This is a highly 
contested fight, Senator, as you know, and we have seen the 
tide move back and forth. Most recently we have seen some 
pretty significant fighting in the Bakhmut area.
    Senator Wicker. Right. But just with regard to your 
optimism about Ukraine having the upper hand, that is what you 
told me yesterday.
    Secretary Austin. It is now--what I was about to say, 
Senator, is that the Ukrainians have inflicted significant 
casualties on the Russians and they have depleted their 
inventory of armored vehicles in a way that no one would have 
ever imagined.
    Now we see Russia reaching for T-54 and T-55 tanks because 
of the level of damage that the Ukrainians have inflicted on 
them, and we have in the meantime----
    Senator Wicker. But that means reaching for those tanks 
demonstrates what to you, sir?
    Secretary Austin. It demonstrates that their capability is 
waning, and we have continued to witness them being challenged 
with artillery munitions and other things, and are reaching out 
to Iran, are reaching out to North Korea.
    I think, we will see an increase in the fighting in the 
spring as conditions for maneuver improve. Based upon the 
things that we have done and continue to do, I think Ukraine 
will have a real good chance----
    Senator Wicker. Do you believe--yes, we are pressed for 
time, sir. Do you believe there is a real chance for 
significant Ukrainian advancements between now and the 
beginning of winter?
    Secretary Austin. I believe that there is a chance and we 
are doing everything that we can do to ensure that they have 
their best opportunity to be successful, Senator.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, and if the chair will indulge 
me, Mr. Secretary, you have got a pretty big congressional 
relations office in your shop, do you not?
    Secretary Austin. I do.
    Senator Wicker. Do you agree that it should have occurred 
to someone in that office to inform Senators who were debating 
about Iran last Thursday about what had occurred with regard to 
attacks in Syria?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, I think you know that we take 
the War Powers Act very, very seriously. After every operation, 
we are required to debrief Congress and we lean forward and try 
to ensure that Congress is briefed before we conduct an 
operation.
    We also--in this case, we had an attack in--and we launched 
an attack on the adversaries in the same time period, same 
short period of time. Because of that compressed time, we did 
both notifications at the same time. We should have notified 
you earlier, and we will endeavor to do so----
    Senator Wicker. Well, as a matter of fact, Mr. Chairman, if 
I might, the attack occurred and counterattack occurred in the 
wee hours of the morning, and Members of the Senate were not 
notified until very late in the afternoon or early evening. 
That is the fact, is it not?
    Secretary Austin. No, sir. The attack occurred in the 
morning and the counterattack occurred evening, our time, 
eastern time.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and so, after the attack occurred, it 
did not dawn on anybody in Congressional Affairs to notify 
Members who were debating this very issue on the Senate floor. 
I think that is correct.
    Secretary Austin. Senator, our goal is that is to make sure 
that we keep you informed. We will do everything within our 
power to make sure that we improve our performance.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Senator 
Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Secretary Austin, General 
Milley, thank you both for being here this morning and for your 
service. General Milley, thank you, especially for all of the 
years that you have given to this country and to all of us.
    We will miss you, even if you may not miss these posture 
hearings. Secretary Austin, I understand that the Department 
may be in the final stages of the review of information 
operations that was required by the 2020 NDAA.
    Can you give us any insights into what that may show and 
how important you think information operations are as we look 
at the modern defense and whether there is money in the budget 
requested to address expanded information operations?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator. I think what we will 
find is that that work will show that information operations is 
increasingly relevant and increasingly valuable in terms of 
enabling our operations, and also understanding and countering 
what our adversaries are doing.
    So, we will continue to work to refine our policies and 
procedures and develop talent in this area as well. But this is 
a key area, and we see it every day as we watch the Ukraine, 
Russia fight and the relevance of those operations in that 
fight.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, one of the areas where information 
operations have been important is in the Black Sea region, and 
certainly, we saw with the downing of the drone just how 
important that region is to our national security.
    Can you talk about what the most pressing threats are that 
Russia poses in the Black Sea and what we are thinking about 
going forward as a strategy to respond to that?
    Secretary Austin. Well, certainly, Senator, Russia would 
aim to completely control the Black Sea and deny our allies and 
partners the ability to have continuous access to the sea. You 
know, I was in the region before this fight started and had 
engaged with our allies and partners and talked to them about 
the importance of the access to the Black Sea, encouraged them 
to work together, and also wanted to make sure that we were 
doing everything within our power to help them strengthen their 
capability and strengthen their interoperability. So, this is 
critical and this is something that I think we need to continue 
to put energy into.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. I was in the region in 
February, and I can tell you and the countries that I visited, 
Georgia, Romania, that there was a great deal of interest in 
the fact that we might have a more comprehensive approach to 
the region that deals not just with national security, but also 
with economic and democratic initiatives there.
    Over the past several years alone, Congress has 
appropriated over $1 billion in funding for PFAS [Per- and 
Polyfluoroalkyl Substances] related activities, testing, 
remediation. My--the most recent information I have seen 
suggests that there are more than 700 contaminated military 
sites across the country, including the former Pease Air Base.
    Congress has shown a willingness to accelerate testing and 
cleanup by increasing funding, and yet the Department claims 
that it is unable to execute those increased funding levels. We 
appropriated $517 million or authorized it in fiscal year 2020.
    Can you speak to what needs to happen in order for the 
Department to make better use of the funds that Congress 
appropriated to--appropriates to address PFAS?
    Secretary Austin. We will continue to make every effort to 
make best use of those funds. I think you see in this budget, 
we have asked for another $400 million.
    To your point, Senator, if funds are not executed in one 
particular year, I think they roll over to the next year. So, 
we have the benefit of using the funds that were not completely 
executed last year, plus the $400 million we are asking for 
this year.
    We will make every effort to make sure that we are doing 
everything within our--that is possible to utilize the funds, 
and where we need more, we will come back and ask you for more.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I hope 
you will also take a look at our willingness to be transparent 
with the public where sites have been contaminated because 
there is a great deal of distrust, I think, about information 
sharing from the Department of Defense, and least we have seen 
that in the site in New Hampshire.
    I think that undermines our ability to address what needs 
to be done in those sites to clean up the contamination and to 
encourage the communities to do what they need to do to address 
the problem. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shahee. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. For years, we 
have underinvested in our munitions production and we are 
starting to reverse that trend but more needs to be done to 
increase production. Secretary Austin, what is the Department 
currently doing to increase munitions production capacity and 
what more does it seek to do in fiscal year 2024?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, Senator. Let me thank 
Congress for what you have done to authorize a multiyear 
procurement capability. That sends a strong signal to the 
industrial base.
    Also, the numbers that you see reflected in our budget 
request for procurement sends a strong signal as well. In this 
particular budget, we are asking for $30 billion to invest in 
munitions and that helps us go after the right kinds of 
munitions that we think we need to replenish stocks and to make 
sure that we get ahead as well. Also, it allows us to invest a 
bit in the industrial base.
    Now, we are engaging the, you know, our partners in the 
industry and trying to do everything we can to work with them, 
to expand their capacity and their capability. But to your 
point, there's a lot more work that needs to be done.
    Senator Fischer. The Committee has worked to modify or 
remove older and unnecessary contracting requirements so we can 
get contracting officers to move faster on replacing munitions 
in Ukraine. Would it be useful to be able to remove or modify 
these unnecessary requirements for weapons related to most, 
really our most pressing challenges in the Western Pacific and 
in Taiwan as well?
    Secretary Austin. Absolutely. Absolutely, it would.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Milley, the current 
U.S. nuclear modernization plan was originally designed in 2010 
when nuclear threats were much less severe than they are today. 
However, since then, every DOD modernization program, along 
with every Department of Energy (DOE) infrastructure project 
and warhead program, has been delayed or it has been reduced in 
its scope.
    Can you tell me how we are going to meet the rapidly 
growing threats from China and Russia with a force that is 
smaller and with a force that delivers later than we planned 
for more than a decade ago? Basically, I am asking you, how are 
we going to recognize challenges we have today and meet them?
    General Miley. Thanks, Senator. As you know, the nuclear 
capability of China is growing, and we can cover that in some 
detail in a classified session, if you so desire.
    The recapitalization of the nuclear triad is the Secretary 
and President's number 1 defense priority. That is what has 
been one of the most significant contributors to great power 
peace in the last eight decades. So, it is imperative for us, 
the United States, to recapitalize that entire system with the 
silos, the bombers, as well as the subs, but also the NC3 
system.
    That is really critical, and it does bother me that some of 
these programs are behind and they are coming in at over cost, 
over budget. But we are going to get there and it will be a 
safe, secure, reliable system, guaranteed that, and we will 
maintain the strategic deterrence that we have kept for 80 
years.
    Senator Fischer. Last year, you, along with nearly every 
other senior U.S. military officer, testified that we need to 
provide Presidents with more nuclear options than we have 
today. Do you still agree with that sentiment?
    General Miley. I do. I believe that----
    Senator Shaheen. Okay, thank you. Yes, is fine.
    General Miley. Sure.
    Senator Fischer. As a Member of this Committee and also as 
a Member of the Senate Commerce Committee, I have worked for 
years to promote efficient spectrum management by the Federal 
Government without endangering the mission critical operations 
of the Department of Defense.
    Coordination among the agencies can be difficult, and it 
can be slow. Proactive communication among all stakeholders, I 
believe, is key for that better coordination. That is why I, as 
Ranking Member of the Strategic Force Subcommittee, I send a 
letter to the Subcommittee Chairman--with the Subcommittee 
Chairman, Angus King, to the Department of Defense last year 
that asked for more details about the Department's concerns 
with proposed spectrum reallocation in the lower 3G.
    DOD's response pointed to the 2020 IDA [Institute for 
Defense Analyses] report, but there are still far more details 
that we need to learn about what may or may not work for 
reallocation in this band. Fortunately, there is an ongoing 
study, and I appreciate that, the Path study that should 
provide those details.
    General Milley, my time is almost up and I expect my friend 
from South Dakota will have a conversation with you about this 
as well. But for the record, and please answer yes or no, is it 
your best military advice that the ongoing Path study as 
currently authorized, as currently authorized, should be 
completed in order to inform the ongoing spectrum negotiations?
    General Miley. Yes.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Before I 
recognize Senator Gillibrand, let me just remind all my 
colleagues, there will be a classified hearing in the sciff 
SCV-217 at the conclusion of this open hearing. Senator 
Gillibrand.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. McCord, I 
was disappointed that for the second year in a row, the All-
Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO, was not fully funded 
in the Department's budget request. Understanding that we 
cannot get into specific budget figures in this form, can you 
discuss why AARO was not fully funded?
    Mr. McCord. Senator, I don't have any information from my 
colleague, Under Secretary Moultrie, that he needed additional 
funding in this area. It is a relatively new office we are 
standing up, so I was under the impression, I am under the 
impression that we have adequate funding for the relatively new 
State of this. But I will double back with him if there is a 
concern.
    Senator Gillibrand. I need you to send a letter to this 
Committee in writing about why it wasn't fully funded. Several 
Senators signed a letter to Secretary Hicks asking that it be 
fully funded in this budget and we specified in a classified 
annex exactly what funding wasn't being met and its operational 
funding, its basic operational funding, so I am highly 
concerned about this.
    Secretary Austin, the incidents last month involving the 
Chinese high-altitude balloon and the three unknown objects 
highlighted the need for us to continue to improve our 
understanding of UAPs over United States airspace. Do you 
intend to ensure AARO receives full funding in the future?
    Secretary Austin. I will, Senator, and we--in this budget, 
we have asked for $11 million in support of the office, of that 
initiative.
    Senator Gillibrand. That is not the budget request. Will 
you investigate why the budget request isn't being met and be 
part of the response----
    Secretary Austin. I will. I will.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Secretary Austin, on March 
17, Qin Gang, the Chinese Foreign Minister said that the United 
States and China are heading toward inevitable ``confrontation 
and conflict.''
    This comes as the STRATCOM Commander testified that ``the 
PRC seeks to match or in some areas surpass quantitative and 
qualitative parity with the United States in terms of nuclear 
weapons.''
    During the cold war, the United States and the Soviet Union 
developed lines of communication to prevent escalation or 
outright hostilities during heightened tensions and developed 
norms and mechanisms to avoid miscalculations.
    How would you characterize your relationship with your PRC 
counterpart, and what steps are you taking to reduce the risk 
of miscalculations during a period of heightened competition 
between our countries?
    Secretary Austin. Well thanks, Senator. I think you have 
heard me say two things. The first thing is that Chairman--what 
the Chairman said earlier that I don't see conflict as being 
imminent or inevitable.
    But I do think it is important that leaders and great 
powers have the ability to talk to each other, to manage 
escalation, to manage crises. You have seen me reach out to my 
former counterpart, Minister of Defense Wei, who has now moved 
on, and encourage him to keep the lines of communication open.
    He has now been replaced by a new minister and I have yet 
to have the have the ability to engage him, but I will continue 
to make sure that we reach out. I do think that is critical.
    Senator Gillibrand. Secretary Austin, we have international 
legal structures to address the conduct of our forces in war. 
While we have international treaties that govern the use of 
space, there is ongoing debate about whether these treaties 
would apply during an armed conflict, and what types of 
counterspace weapons are permissible.
    What steps is the Department taking in coordination with 
Department of State to reinforce international norms and 
whether we can safely rely on our use of space assets, both 
legally and lethally during a conflict?
    Secretary Austin. Well, this is an issue that the 
interagency of our Administration, we continue to engage on. 
Secretary Blinken, as you know, also has engaged our allies and 
partners on this issue at the U.N. [United Nations] and in 
other fora. We think it is important. The Administration thinks 
it is important, and this is something that we will continue to 
work on.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. I appreciate 
the policies you issued on March 22d supporting our military 
families, and it is critical to their well-being and ability to 
retain strong military force. DOD's own surveys show that 24 
percent of our servicemembers experience food insecurity.
    Last year, I met with military families on Staten Island 
who spoke about the challenges they face in basically putting 
food on the table to feed their kids. However, very few 
servicemembers are considered eligible for basic needs 
allowance or the BNA, under existing BNA programs since BAH 
[Basic Allowance for Housing] is included in family income 
calculations.
    Can you tell me how you intend to ensure that food 
insecurity in military families have access to the BNA or other 
measures?
    Secretary Austin. We will have the authority next year to 
move to a higher number, a higher percentage, 150 percent will 
actually move before we are required to move. We plan to move 
in July.
    That will allow us to help more families. But you have seen 
this with your support, Senator. You have seen us ask for a pay 
raise last year, 4.6 percent. You have seen us raise BAH 
amounts, and you have seen us work to get childcare costs down. 
So, we are trying to increase the resources and reduce the 
strain on families and hopefully that total equation will 
create benefits for our families and our troops.
    Senator Gillibrand. But will you consider removing BAH from 
the calculation for BNA?
    Secretary Austin. We will do whatever what is ever 
feasible, what we are allowed to do by law.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator 
Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, I want to return to the 
issue of the strikes in Syria last week and Senator Wicker's 
line of questioning about the timing of notification to 
Congress. You said that you ``should have notified Congress 
earlier.''
    These attacks happened against our troops, killing one 
contractor early in the morning eastern time. Do you believe 
that you should have notified us that morning while we were 
voting on amendments directly related to this kind of attack?
    Secretary Austin. Again, there is no connection between 
when we notified you, Senator, and your vote. The Chairman and 
I were testifying that morning as well, so as soon as we came 
out of testimony, we began work on crafting response options.
    Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, I don't believe you. I 
believe that your office specifically withheld notification of 
this deadly strike against Americans because the Rubio 
amendment, on which we voted midday, directly touched on 
exactly this scenario, not repealing these use of force 
resolutions if the President couldn't certify that Iran was no 
longer attacking us in Iran, in Syria.
    That is what I believe. Nothing you can say is going to 
change my belief about that, and I got to say, I think I speak 
for a lot----
    Secretary Austin. I just want to say, Senator, that is 
absolutely not true.
    Senator Cotton. Maybe you didn't personally do it, maybe 
you didn't personally do it, but I believe entirely that people 
in your office did that. You have a vast legislative operation, 
as Senator Wicker pointed out. Do you really expect us to 
believe that they didn't know that we were voting on a Rubio 
amendment that directly, directly covered exactly this kind of 
attack? I don't believe that.
    I don't believe it. I believe there was a conscious 
decision made not to inform Congress because you fear that it 
might lead to the passage of the Rubio amendment, which would 
kill the entire bill.
    But I want to move on to a more important part, which is 
these attacks in the first place. How many attacks has Iran or 
its proxies launched against American positions in Iran and 
Syria since Joe Biden took office?
    Secretary Austin. There has been about 83 attacks, I think, 
since--in the last several years.
    Senator Cotton. That is a lot of attacks over 2 years. How 
many times have we retaliated against Iran or its proxies?
    Secretary Austin. We have launched four major strikes, 
Senator. But an attack can consist of a number of things. It 
can consist of, a rocket that is fired in the direction of one 
of our bases but not effective.
    Senator Cotton. Mr. Secretary, I am well aware of what an 
attack could entail. So 79 and 4 is Iran's record right now, 
and our four attacks have not been against Iran, right, they 
have been against Iran's proxies in Iraq or Syria or elsewhere. 
Is that correct?
    Secretary Austin. That last attack was against IRGC 
[Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps], Quds force infrastructure 
and----
    Senator Cotton. Okay, and after we retaliated, Iran 
attacked us again, injuring another American, didn't it?
    Secretary Austin. They did.
    Senator Cotton. We retaliated for that attack on Friday.
    Secretary Austin. We have not yet, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. So, what kind of signal do we think this 
sends to Iran when they can attack us 83 times since Joe Biden 
has become President, we only respond 4.
    Maybe it is because they know that until--that we will not 
retaliate, until they kill an American, which emboldens them to 
keep launching these attacks which kill Americans.
    What is our rules of engagement for on the ground 
Commanders throughout the region? Are they allowed to engage 
immediately if their position has been attacked?
    Secretary Austin. They can and they do, and there have been 
several instances of that.
    Senator Cotton. I have got to say, I have heard from 
company and field grade Commanders who have been in the region 
very recently, and they say there is a lot of confusion over 
that.
    Let me move to a related topic, and that is our operations 
of unmanned aircraft in the Black Sea. Russia down one of our 
Reaper aircraft a couple of weeks ago. Have we flown those 
aircrafts into the exact same space since it was downed?
    Secretary Austin. We have flown on the paths that we want 
to fly in the Black Sea to collect intelligence information.
    Senator Cotton. So that is a far--that is far from a yes 
answer. I said, have we flown in the same airspace? You have 
said we have flown in the path we want to fly to collect 
intelligence. So, if we adjusted our flight patterns, have we 
moved down of that airspace?
    Secretary Austin. We will fly the paths that we feel 
necessary to collect intelligence information.
    Senator Cotton. So according to an Administration official 
from an article in CNN on March 21st, we are not flying in that 
airspace ``to avoid being too provocative.'' So, are we 
removing our aircraft out of the space from that which that 
Reaper flew because we don't want to be too provocative toward 
Russia?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, you may have heard me say 
immediately after this incident to--that I told my counterpart 
that we are going to fly the skies, the international skies, 
and sail the seas as we wish, and so, we continue to fly in 
that airspace.
    Senator Cotton. In the exact same airspace where that 
Reaper was downed?
    Secretary Austin. Again----
    Senator Cotton. You haven't pulled back from Crimea or from 
the Ukrainian or the Russian coasts?
    Secretary Austin. I recommend we take this to a closed 
session.
    Senator Cotton. We can and I think it answers the question, 
though, and it gets to the point I am trying to make here. We 
continue to deter ourselves against our adversaries. We let 
Iran launch 83 attacks against us and we only respond 4 times.
    Russia downs one of our aircraft and we pull back from that 
airspace just like we have been delaying ballistic missile 
tests over the last 2 year, or over the last year. Just like we 
let a Chinese spy balloon float across the country when we 
could have done it across the Aleutians.
    Now, I don't necessarily think these are Secretary of 
Defense calls. I think these are Commander-in-Chief calls. But 
we shouldn't be surprised when our adversaries get emboldened 
and more aggressive in all these theaters when we continue to 
deter ourselves.
    Chairman Reed. Have you finished, sir? Thank you, Senator 
Cotton. Let me recognize Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
being here. Thank you for your service, not only over many 
decades, but in this role, and particularly at a time when the 
threats are as great as any time that most of us can remember.
    I have been to Ukraine three times over roughly the last 
year visiting Kyiv and President Zelenskyy, and recently 
followed you, Mr. Secretary, to visit our base in Bavaria, 
where we are training Ukrainian fighters in the use of Bradley 
armored vehicles and combined arms.
    The bond between our soldiers and their fighters is 
extraordinary because of our respect for their will to fight, 
and that is what I have seen in the Ukrainian people. They will 
fight with pitchforks, if necessary, but they need a lot more.
    I want to thank you and the President for committing to do 
whatever it takes. I think I am almost quoting exactly. In my 
view, whatever it takes includes airplanes, aircraft. Would you 
agree that as a strictly military matter, and you know a lot 
more about this than most of us at this side of the table, that 
that kind of air support from the United States is going to be 
necessary, and the sooner, the better?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator. First of all, thanks for 
your continued support and for the support of Congress. It is 
phenomenal what we have been able to do in what we have helped 
Ukraine be, the kinds of effects they have been able to achieve 
based upon our support.
    As you know, the United States of America leads the way on 
that. We talk to our counterparts every week, sometimes 
multiple times a week, and I meet with them in person every 
month.
    What they need right now more than anything else is air 
defense, and that is the critical need on the battlefield, and 
they also need long range fires in armored capability. We are 
providing them a real substantial package of capability in 
terms of platforms, but not just that, we are also providing 
training and we are providing sustainment.
    Sir, you witnessed some of that coming together when you 
were in Grafenwohr, and I really appreciate you going out there 
and visiting our troops. I think those capabilities will make 
the biggest difference in the near term, and they must be 
successful going forward.
    We know the spring fighting seasons in front of us here and 
we want to make sure that they have what they need to be 
successful.
    Senator Blumenthal. I apologize for interrupting, Mr. 
Secretary, but I want to come back to the aircraft, because as 
you have identified it very clearly and I agree totally, air 
defense is critical.
    We have a narrow window of time, and in fact, this spring 
will be crucial. Some of our allies are providing planes, but 
we have the resources, and only we really have the resources to 
provide the aircraft necessary for fully robust air defense.
    Secretary Austin. If you are talking to F-16s, whenever you 
make that decision, in order to put together what needs to be 
put together, to provide that capability, is going to be 18 
months or so in the making.
    That won't help them in this current fight, and will they 
have a capability at some point down the road? We all believe 
that they will. What that looks like, it could look like F-16s. 
It could look like some other fourth generation aircraft. But 
we will continue to work with our allies and partners to make 
sure that Ukraine has what it needs.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Secretary, 
and again, I want to thank you and the President for your 
commitment, which I think is deeply appreciated by the people 
of Ukraine as well. I want to focus on a very narrow issue 
relating to procurement, which is the helicopter acquisition 
and development for the FLRAA contract.
    A number of my colleagues and myself had asked the Army for 
an explanation for the award of that contract--it is under 
challenge right now. Will you commit to provide us with an 
adequate explanation? So far, the Army has been totally 
unforthcoming.
    Secretary Austin. I will commit, Senator, once the protest 
is resolved, we will make sure you get a thorough briefing on 
this issue.
    Senator Blumenthal. Shouldn't we have it now rather than at 
some indefinite point in the future?
    Secretary Austin. Well, sir, you know that it is 
inappropriate to once--while this is under protest, to do that. 
I commit to you that as soon as we can, we will provide you 
that information.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. I want to ask one last 
question. Suicide among our servicemembers continues to be a 
desperately important problem. I will be meeting later today or 
this week with the family of Master of Arms Seaman Recruit 
Xavier Mitchell Sandor, who took his own life while he was 
stationed on the USS George Washington.
    He was among three who committed suicide while that ship 
was under maintenance and repair. Similar kinds of suicides 
have happened on other ships under similar circumstances. The 
report is still outstanding. There have been no completion of 
the investigation a year after that event. I know you are very 
concerned about the troops.
    Nobody cares more than you do about the well-being, and I 
include the Chairman in that sentiment. Can you tell us that 
additional measures will be taken and that there will be a 
report forthcoming about Xavier Sandor?
    Secretary Austin. I will. I will make sure that Secretary 
Del Toro ensures that this investigation moves on a timely 
fashion and in a very thorough fashion.
    I would also tell you that I have asked Secretary Del Toro 
to make sure that he is personally focused on this issue, 
specifically related to ships that are in maintenance and the 
berthing associated with those ships.
    He has, in this budget, Senator, asked for some $258 
billion to address that issue, and I think that is a good 
start, but I think we need to continue to make sure our 
leadership is doing the right thing, that we have adequate 
housing for our young men and women. They are our national 
assets. I truly believe that he will remain focused on this, 
but I will as well, so.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Let me begin by 
thanking all of you for your service to our country, 
recognizing Secretary Austin, not just for your time in 
uniform, but your time as Secretary as well. General Milley, 
recognizing your time as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, but not 
only that, but the amount of time that you and your family have 
served our country, we sometimes gloss over that.
    I recognize I don't have a lot of time, but I just want to 
make this clear, it is not just the time that you spend in the 
Pentagon, it is the time that you have spent boots on the 
ground.
    You have had operational deployments, including the 
Multinational Force Observer, Sinai, Egypt, Operation Just 
Cause in Panama, Operation Uphold Democracy in Haiti, Operation 
Joint Endeavor, Bosnia, Operation Iraqi Freedom in Iraq, and 
three tours during Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan.
    You have also deployed to Somalia and Colombia. We thank 
you for your service to our country, sir, and your family as 
well, because when you deploy, they are deployed as well. Thank 
you.
    Gentlemen, both for Secretary Austin and Chairman Milley, 
last week you both clarified that you support waiting until the 
conclusion of the ongoing study before any decision should be 
made on auctioning parts of or any of the 3.1 to 3.45 gigahertz 
spectrum band.
    My question is, should an auction occur before the study is 
complete? What are the real-world impacts on national security 
from a defense and budgetary perspective?
    Secretary Austin. It would be devastating, Senator, and it 
would take us somewhere north of 20 years to try to recover 
from a loss of that spectrum. Parts of that spectrum are vital 
to our national defense and the protection of the Homeland.
    In order to describe exactly what the specific platforms 
are, but we would have to go to a classified section to speak 
in detail about this. But I would tell you that this is not 
something you can fix overnight once you break it. It will take 
20 years plus to recover from that.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General Milley.
    General Miley. Same thing, Senator. I firmly believe that 
we should wait till the study is measured twice, that one sort 
of thing. But we don't want to vacate because of the severe 
national security implications to that.
    The sharing is obviously a goal for everybody, but it is 
how you share and the technical capability to do that, and that 
is what the study should tell us. We want to make a fully 
informed decision, and the Secretary and I will be making those 
recommendations and writing to the President when the time 
comes.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir, once again, for Chairman 
Milley, as the principal military adviser to the President, 
would you say that it's essential for you to be able to provide 
an independent recommendation about spectrum sharing and its 
impact on national security to the President?
    General Miley. Yes, I do. I would also say, though, that 
every recommendation I make to the President is an independent 
military best military advice, no matter what the topic. The 
Secretary is very good about that, and I will always inform the 
Secretary if I disagree with the Secretary ahead of time.
    But he and I were always in there together with the 
President and I will always make it independent best military 
advice recommendation. That is why I signed, when I was 
confirmed, that I would do that with the Senate as part of this 
Committee, as part of becoming the confirmation process. So, I 
will always do that and every Chairman should always do that.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Secretary Austin, INDOPACOM 
has listed an unfunded requirement of $147 million for the 
development of a missile defense system for Guam.
    Can you discuss how that decision by the Department not to 
fund this INDOPACOM requirement comports with the Department's 
priority to defend Guam?
    Secretary Austin. Thanks, Senator. As you know, we have and 
we continue to invest heavily in the defense of Guam, and that 
work is ongoing. Again, there is always choices that we have to 
make in a specific time horizon, and in this case, that is a 
capability that I think we can and will consider going forward.
    Senator Rounds. I think part of the reason for the question 
is because there has been some criticism on the Department 
providing a list of unfunded requests. Would you agree that 
this one should be very seriously considered by Congress?
    Secretary Austin. As you know, Senator, we are required, or 
the Service Chiefs and Commanders are required by law to submit 
those unfunded requests. I do believe that all of our 
Commanders and Chiefs believe that what is on there is 
important.
    Now, I have asked our Commanders and our Chiefs to make 
sure that they build their requirements for readiness and also 
combat capability into their base budget. We try to do that at 
every turn. But at some point, in time, there are choices that 
you have to make.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I thank all three 
of you for being here today, and especially for General Milley. 
Thank you very much for your 43 years of continuous service. I 
extend to you my thanks and respect.
    For Secretary Austin, investments in the military's 
infrastructure are directly correlated to our readiness and 
ability to execute deterrence. However, as the people of Hawaii 
saw from the disaster at Red Hill, military infrastructure also 
impacts our cities and towns. Fuel, chemical, and sewage spills 
have lasting impacts on our lands and erode the trust of 
servicemembers and their communities.
    We must invest in the systems they rely on each day. Basic 
things like pipelines, power grids, and barracks. Yet this 
year, in Hawaii alone, there is over half a billion in unfunded 
infrastructure improvements on the service's unfunded 
priorities list.
    Secretary Austin, how is the Department ensuring that 
infrastructure maintenance and modernization needs are met 
before disasters like Red Hill occur? Basically, don't we need 
to get more of these projects off unfunded priorities lists?
    Secretary Austin. These are, to your point, Senator, 
requirements that are critical and they should be met as soon 
as possible. In my budget, I have asked for $5.1 billion to 
increase operational effectiveness and survivability. Part of 
that has to do with the effects that are caused by climate.
    But nonetheless, those are facts or real facts, and so, we 
will continue to invest in this, but to your point, services 
should invest in this to make sure that the infrastructure they 
need to support them is, in fact first rate.
    Senator Hirono. Secretary Austin, you know that I have been 
very much focused on those kinds of infrastructure needs. What 
comes out of our pipes, whether electricity stays on--those 
continue to capture my attention and be assured that I will 
continue to focus on these issues and the needs being met.
    Mr. Secretary, in your tenure, you have issued several 
policies that increase servicemembers access to childcare, 
which you have mentioned, institute parental leave, which is 
very popular, and ensure access to reproductive health care for 
all women no matter where they are stationed.
    These are prudent changes that put our people first, and I 
appreciate your leadership on these issues. Senator Austin, how 
did you identify these servicemember needs? Once those 
requirements were a record, what was the process to implement 
updated policies?
    Secretary Austin. Well, I talked to our troops. I talked to 
the family members. As I go around the country and around the 
world, I am very much interested in what their challenges are 
and how we can do things to make life better for them. With 
your help, we have been able to do some things.
    That includes the things that you have mentioned, Senator, 
but also the pay raises, the raise in BAH and BAS. We are 
asking you for another pay raise this year. Probably the 
biggest pay raise for our troops and civilians in decades. But 
that is how I get the input by engaging the troops and the 
family members.
    Senator Hirono. You have been heavily criticized for your 
decisions to enable particularly women servicemembers to attain 
reproductive health. I, for one, commend you for that.
    I want you to stay the course. In the same vein of wanting 
to support our servicemembers, I do want to mention that there 
is the potential for significant cuts to the cost of living of 
Hawaii's servicemembers. I have noted this before, and I think 
that these are huge cuts for Hawaii servicemembers are unjust 
and unfair, and I hope that there will be a reconsideration of 
that decision.
    I also want to note, I have been asking about missile 
defense of Hawaii for quite some time. I had a productive 
meeting yesterday with leaders from your staff about their 
roles in and plans for the current and future missile defense 
of Hawaii. While there is certainly more work to be done to 
establish and execute a long-term plan for the missile defense 
of Hawaii, I am encouraged to see the Department treating this 
issue with the seriousness it demands. I remain focused on it, 
on the issue, as I request updates from your staff.
    Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to State 
for the record that I am adamantly opposed to the DOD's new 
policy on allowing travel expenses for those that are going to 
other states to seek abortions.
    I think it is incredibly important that we remain adherent 
to the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits taxpayer dollars from 
going toward abortions. I know this is an extension of travel 
services for family members and those servicemembers, but 
again, those are taxpayer dollars being spent to fund the 
extension of an abortion.
    I am adamantly opposed. I know that there are others that 
are on this Committee that agree as well. We are not saying 
that women can't seek abortions. They can do that, but that is 
to be privately funded.
    So, thank you both, gentlemen, for being here this morning, 
and Secretary, I do worry that there is a mismatch between 
strategy and resources at the heart of the President's budget. 
The national defense strategy calls this a ``decisive decade'' 
and commits to act urgently to strengthen deterrence against 
the pacing threat of China.
    General Milley, would investments in posture presence and 
lethal capabilities like long range fires reduce our risk in 
the Western Pacific?
    General Miley. Absolutely, long range fires would reduce 
our risk. Not only the west--anywhere, but for sure yes--That 
is correct.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, General Milley. I know that you 
addressed this with Senator Rounds, but Secretary Austin, as we 
discuss those unfunded requirements, we see that we are three 
and a half billion dollars short in the INDOPACOM, which 
includes critical strike capabilities and posture enhancements.
    So, I do hope that this is something we can work with those 
Commanders on those requirements. I think it is incredibly 
important and I know my colleague from Alaska may address our 
requirements in defending Taiwan, but it is incredibly 
important.
    If we are saying in the National Defense Strategy that this 
is a decisive decade, we need to act accordingly. As Congress, 
we must fund accordingly. Chairman Milley, as you know, our 
special operations forces are a strategic capability. How can 
soft help deter and defeat great power competitors?
    General Miley. Well for Special Forces, regardless of 
theater, relative to a great power competitor, there is ongoing 
intense competition in the so-called gray space. They play a 
key role in that area. In addition to that, they can provide 
tremendous capability in train, advise, assist in indigenous 
partners and allies and region. That's important.
    Also, I would argue that irregular warfare is often an 
overlooked component. As you start looking at larger 
conventional war, irregular warfare plays a very key role in 
all forms of war, and that will play a key role in any great 
power war as well.
    So those are some of the key things, that strategic 
reconnaissance, there is development of the battlespace events 
force operations, the whole litmus test or a litany of 
capabilities that special operations forces bring that have a 
direct role prior to the onset of hostilities and can 
contribute to the deterrence of war with any great power.
    Senator Ernst. Very good, and I appreciate that because you 
answered my next question about surrogate forces and partnering 
with those forces and indigenous actors, and they do help soft 
compete against great powers, so I do appreciate that. 
Secretary Austin, will the Department's guidance to the SOF 
[Special Operation Forces] enterprise place our great power 
competition above counterterrorism and crisis response mission?
    Secretary Austin. I am sorry, Senator, I missed the 
question----
    Senator Ernst. Yes, SOF, as it applies to great power 
competition, will you be placing their mission with great power 
competition over the other mission of deterring terrorism?
    Secretary Austin. We have to strike a balance, and we see 
our SOF forces doing that. I know you have talked to our 
special operations force Combatant Commander. He is looking at 
this in a very methodical way and making sure that he maintains 
a balance of capability that can serve both challenges there.
    They are doing a great job, and I have seen some of our 
Tier 1 forces very rapidly transition and start thinking about 
how they are going to be relevant, not just thinking about it, 
but developing capability to be relevant in great power 
competition. At the same time, keeping a good handle on 
transnational terrorist organizations.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you. I appreciate it. I think it is 
incredibly important that we continue to fund our SOF as 
necessary because they do strike a balance between great power 
competition, working in that gray zone, and also deterring 
terrorism around the globe.
    I would just encourage Members of this Committee to 
continue to focus on the strength within our SOF forces. 
Chairman Milley, thank you very much for your service to our 
great United States Army, as well as the Joint Force.
    Also, my best wishes to Hollyanne. We know that behind 
every great leader is someone who supports them thoroughly, and 
she has been a tremendous force in working with our Gold Star 
families, with all of the members of their service and their 
families. So, my best wishes to you and your entire family. 
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you to the 
witnesses. General Milley, I also want to compliment you on 
your stellar career, and I also offer the congratulations of 
your college classmate, my wife, Anne, who I mentioned I would 
see you today, and she wanted me to extend her congratulations 
as well.
    On the 15th of the month, during our Personnel Subcommittee 
hearing, Senator Kelly and I asked Secretary Cisneros and 
Martinez Lopez about implementation of the Brandon Act. I 
appreciate both of you in your opening statements talked about 
the need to get a hold of military suicide issues and resources 
that are being devoted to this.
    We asked the Secretaries about Brandon Act implementation 
and also about a report on Brandon Act implementation that we 
were supposed to receive that is overdue. I don't really want 
to get into that with you here today, but just to put it on the 
radar screen, that during the course of the development of the 
NDAA, we really want to get into the implementation of the 
Brandon Act that we passed.
    Make sure that it's being implemented. Find out if there 
are things, we can do to make that implementation easier, and I 
really want to work on that between now and the time that we 
take up the NDAA in committee. It is possible that we don't 
need to do anything more on that space if we are convinced that 
implementation is moving out.
    If we are not convinced of that, we will need to do more, 
and I just wanted to kind of put that on the record to begin. 
Secretary, I also want to ask you about your recent trip to 
Iraq.
    I think it was either 2 or 3 weeks ago that you were there 
and reports suggest you had productive meetings, both with 
political leadership, Prime Minister Al Sudani, but also with 
military leadership. Could you describe that visit for the 
Committee?
    Secretary Austin. Well, first of all, let me tell you that 
our troops are doing well there, and they are enabling and 
helping their host, the Iraqi security forces, and they are 
very much valued by the Iraqi leadership. The prime minister 
was very complimentary of their performance and the value that 
they add.
    Good meeting with the prime minister and his leadership. I 
think, you know, it is not only me, but other leaders in the 
region are also saying that the prime minister shows a lot of 
promise in terms of a person that is willing to work with 
others to move things forward.
    Senator Kaine. Describe the current State of the mil-to-mil 
relationship. So, talking about the prime minister discussions, 
but we have got about 2,500 United States troops in Iraq, as 
you point out. We are being hosted. They are there at the 
invitation of the Iraqi Government because they value the 
United States as a partner. Describe a little bit about the 
current mil-to-mil relationship.
    Secretary Austin. I think the mil-to-mil relationship, 
Senator, is good, really good, and again, I think our partners 
understand the value that we add to their overall effort. If 
you unplug that, then what happens with their efforts to 
maintain pressure on ISIS [Islamic State of Iraq and Syria]?
    What happens with their efforts to continue to develop 
their professional force? I think we are very much appreciated. 
What I saw was goodness. I think, you know that the Commander 
there is doing all the right things and working in conjunction 
with the Ambassador to continue to move things forward. So, I 
was really encouraged by what I saw.
    Senator Kaine. You have had a number of chapters in Iraq, 
in 2003, and then in 2010, and then as CENTCOM Commander, and 
some of these chapters are with an Iraq that was an adversary 
of the United States. How would you characterize this 
relationship where they are at their invitation and now, we 
seem to be working in partnership to help them advance security 
in their country and in the region.
    Secretary Austin. It truly is remarkable, and you cheated 
me on one of the rotations there. I had three rotations to 
Iraq----
    Senator Kaine. I left one out.
    Secretary Austin. But this is something that has developed 
over time and it is developing in a very meaningful way. It 
hasn't always been easy. It has been lumpy from time to time. 
But I think we are in a pretty good place now, and this is 
something that we are going to have to work on each and every 
day.
    We know, Senator, that not every person in Iraq believes 
that Americans ought to be there. But the Government is very 
much appreciative of what we bring in and what we are doing to 
train and enable their forces. I think we are in a pretty good 
place.
    Senator Kaine. Well, I appreciate that, Mr. Secretary. I 
think that is important, that one of the capacities the U.S. 
has shown throughout our history is the, to use a biblical 
phrase, to beat a sword into a plowshare.
    To take a nation that was an enemy, and over time, and as 
you point out, bumpy, not always smooth, but over time turn the 
relationship into one of partnership, not one of being an 
adversary.
    That is an important aspect of the United States, Iraq 
relationship, and it also sends a message to others that that 
is something that the United States can do and we can be proud 
of. I appreciate your testimony. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kaine. Senator 
Cramer, please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both, 
all three, for your service. A special thank you, General 
Milley, for your decades of service. I want to jump down to 
talking back about Ukraine a little bit.
    There have been a lot of reasons, rationale, excuses, 
perhaps for not providing certain advanced weapons systems, 
some legitimate I am sure, maybe all of them, I don't know. But 
of course, oftentimes that leads to eventually providing them. 
But one system we have never offered, and I haven't heard a lot 
of talk about are the MQ-9s.
    But since we just lost one recently in the Black Sea, where 
it is probably more likely to be recovered by Russia than the 
United States, and the fact that the Air Force wants to retire 
48 older MQ-9s, is there any chance that the United be a 
reasonable system to offer Ukraine, either one--or maybe start 
with Secretary Austin.
    Secretary Austin. Yes. As we look at this, Senator, as you 
know, that air domain is a very hostile airspace because of the 
capability that the Russians have for air defense. It is not a 
survivable platform if they try to use that in that 
environment.
    Senator Cramer. General Milley.
    General Miley. Yes, that is--one, it is not survivable. It 
is big and slow. It is going to get nailed by the Russian air 
defense systems. In terms of its capabilities, I am not sure 
what it will get you beyond the smaller, faster, more nimble 
UAV systems that we are providing, as well as some other 
countries are providing. So, I think that it is a good system 
for certain uses in certain environments, but in the current 
situation in Ukraine, it may not be the best system.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you. Secretary Austin, I want to now 
go to back to China a little bit, and you are probably familiar 
with the what I consider the nearly year and a half of torment 
that the city of Grand Forks went through while considering an 
investment by the Chinese Communist Party investors for Fufeng, 
which would have provided a wet corn milling facility 12 miles 
from the Grand Forks Air Force Base, 12 miles from the 319th 
Reconnaissance Wing, and now an SDA [Space Development Agency] 
ground station for low-Earth orbiting satellites.
    After sort of cutting a deal and then going to CFIUS 
[Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States], where 
CFIUS has spent 60 days determining they didn't have 
jurisdiction. Finally, after, I don't know, 14 months or so of 
all of this, the Air Force finally came out and said it would 
present a significant risk.
    That, I think, has helped kill the project, although I 
understand there is now a 90 day pause. My hope for all of that 
is not only that Grand Forks avoided an unfortunate situation, 
but that many other communities might have avoid it as well.
    Could you talk to us just a little bit about either in the 
context of Fufeng and Grand Forks, or the broader context of 
are we giving adequate cover and information and coaching 
perhaps to other communities around the country? Because it is 
my understanding that this is not necessarily a unique 
circumstance to Grand Forks.
    Secretary Austin. Well, first of all, Senator, let me thank 
you for your personal leadership on this issue. To the point 
that you are making, this applies to installations all around 
the United States of America.
    We will continue to emphasize to the Service Chiefs, 
Commanders, secretaries, and that we have to be vigilant about 
what is going on outside of our fences. We have got to work 
with the communities to make sure that we do have some kind of 
a situational awareness.
    We have to advocate for the protection of our bases and 
installations. Again, every one of these cases will be complex, 
but there are cases that we must take on. But again, thanks for 
your leadership in area.
    Senator Cramer. Well, I appreciate you saying it that way, 
actually, because I think you are right. I think we need to, 
``take them on,'' and rather than sort of punt them to the 
CFIUS process or some other political process, particularly 
when it comes to the Chinese Communist Party and their 
involvement, and their ability--not just ability, but obvious 
willingness to do recon in all sorts of matters and ways, and 
so I appreciate that.
    My hope, like I said, is that the experience that ground 
force went through is not just in vain to the rest of the 
country, but rather perhaps sheds light on this issue 
throughout the country. So, thank you for that.
    Again, thank you, General Milley, for your decades of 
service, and I yield. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cramer. Senator Warren, 
please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all 
for your service to our Nation. This year's Department of 
Defense requests an $842 billion budget, one of the largest 
budgets in history.
    Now, despite the massive size of this budget request, the 
Committee is already receiving letters from various parts of 
DOD saying that they need billions of dollars more. DOD calls 
these unfunded priority lists, I call them wish lists, and I am 
concerned about how they distort our budget process.
    So, Secretary Austin, if I could let me ask this directly, 
are you comfortable with the figure in the President's proposed 
budget that it is sufficient to meet our defense and national 
security objectives?
    Secretary Austin. I am, Senator. As you know, we made this 
budget request based upon our strategy. Our request is directly 
linked to the capabilities that we need to execute our 
strategy, and we spent a lot of time on that.
    I have asked the Commanders and Service Chiefs to make sure 
that they go after warfighting capability and readiness in 
their base budget, and for the most part we have done that. But 
again, we are required by law----
    Senator Warren. I understand. So, we are going to go there. 
We are going to go there, Mr. Secretary. Now, Secretary Gates 
understood that leaders at DOD can always find a gap or a 
requirement to justify asking for what he called however many 
billions dollars more you want.
    He reduced wish list by about 90 percent, and he was able 
to do this during the surge in Afghanistan. Secretary Austin, 
you have a unique perspective here because before you were 
Secretary of Defense, you were the Commander of a major 
Combatant Command, a job that is now held by the people who are 
asking for unfunded priorities.
    When Secretary Gates cut these unfunded lists down, you 
were Commanding General of United States Forces in Iraq. 
Secretary Austin, did our national security suffer when 
Secretary Gates cut down the service wish lists?
    Secretary Austin. I can say that while we were in Iraq and 
Afghanistan, we based upon the support of Congress, we had what 
we needed to be able to prosecute our operations, and so, we 
didn't go for--we didn't want for much of anything.
    Senator Warren. Okay. So, let's talk then about the budget 
process. Each Combatant Commander thinks about how they could 
spend more money than you have allocated to them in this 
process that you describe.
    I assume these Combatant Commanders act in absolute good 
faith, but they have a narrow perspective. Secretary Austin, in 
putting together the overall budget, you have to weigh our 
global national security priorities. Do the Commanders 
submitting these wish lists have to do the same?
    Secretary Austin. They are primarily focused on their 
region and in what they would like to have for their region in 
order to be successful. But again----
    Senator Warren. I take that as a no. Yes, all right. You 
know, as my colleagues on this Committee are well aware, I have 
been using these budget posture hearings to ask Combatant 
Commanders, folks who occupy the roles like the one you used to 
serve, about these lists.
    Almost all of them have defended their requests, although 
the justifications vary. Three of them said they needed the 
items on this list to address unexpected threats that couldn't 
be considered in the budget process.
    But these same Commanders often repeat the same requests 
year after year after year, suggesting that if there were a 
real need, they would have worked it into the underlying 
budget. Secretary Austin, does DOD have sufficient tools to 
address emerging threats without relying on the unfunded 
priorities list?
    Secretary Austin. We do, and again, we account for that as 
we build the budget.
    Senator Warren. Okay, and one last question. Do you support 
removing the statutory requirement to send Congress these lists 
every year? If so, are you confident that we could do so 
without jeopardizing national security?
    Secretary Austin. I would support that, Senator.
    Senator Warren. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. I would 
also like to submit a letter for the record from Under 
Secretary McCord supporting my bill with Senator King, Senator 
Lee, and Senator Braun to end the statutory requirement for 
these lists. As he notes in the letter these lists are, ``not 
an effective way to illuminate our joint priorities.''
    We don't let any other part of Federal Government behave 
this way, and it is for a good reason. The budget process 
requires making tough choices. I appreciate that the Secretary 
leads in that, and I would like to submit this for the record, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Warren. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General 
Milley, thanks for being here. Thank you for your service. 
Secretary Austin, thank for your service, and your call last 
week. Secretary McCord, thanks for being here today. You are 
not getting a lot of questions but thank you for being here.
    You know, I ran for Senate to serve on this Committee. I 
ran because my dad, he was a World War II veteran. He earned 
five Bronze Stars and a Purple Heart, and he died on Active 
Duty, and I ran to support the warfighter. You know, we owe our 
freedom to our troops.
    For 50 years, our All-Volunteer Force has answered the 
call. I think you would agree to that. Since 1973, we have 
asked a lot of our Americans, young volunteers, to fight in 
Vietnam, Grenada, Bosnia, Somalia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, and 
Afghanistan. They have never wavered. In boom times and bust, 
young Americans have raised their right hands to defend the 
Constitution with their lives, if necessary.
    War is hell. You know that better than anybody. Every 
recruit should know that. But in the last few years, we have 
put them through a different kind of hell. In one of your first 
acts, Mr. Secretary, you put our military, every single member, 
Active Duty and Reserve, through a mandatory training to root 
out extremists.
    That sent a message, Mr. Secretary, that our military is 
filled with extremists. Our military is one of the most diverse 
organizations in the world. It is full of patriots. Eight 
months later, we watched the collapse of Afghanistan. It was 
the worst defeat of the United States in my lifetime and agony 
for most Americans who watched on the 20th anniversary of 
September 11th.
    That defeat gutted our troops who served there. The 
President called it an extraordinary success. That is not what 
our veterans of Afghanistan call it. Our withdrawal, a big 
letdown to our allies, a military disaster, and national 
disgrace. I have talked to leaders all over the world, they 
have told me the same thing. Not one general or political 
appointee has been held accountable.
    Senator Tuberville. Now, I want to give you an example of 
accountability. General Milley, May 2021, I sent you a letter 
asking for, why did we give up Bagram? Now, you did answer, but 
it was a few months later. Now you have 4,500 people, you know, 
for the next person in line on the joint staff and a budget of 
$250 million. We have got to find ways to get information back 
to Congress.
    Secretary Austin, I sent you a question on September 2021. 
It took almost 4 months. Congress deserves better. America 
deserves better. We all deserve better. Now we are on the brink 
of a world war with Russia.
    China is openly violating our airspace. But it took 
Congress to step in and tell our military leaders, you, to stop 
throwing our troops out who objected to a vaccine. Most of them 
on a religious factor. Given what we put our troops through in 
the past 2 years, it is no wonder that the Army missed its goal 
of 15,000 soldiers. General, you know, that is an entire 
division.
    We can't afford that, and it is getting worse. The Navy and 
Air Force will probably miss their numbers this year. Yet some 
of my colleagues claim that the real crisis is my hold on the 
promotion of 158 general flag officers. Mind you, these were 
promotions that the majority leader can bring to the floor at 
any time.
    Those same people claim expanding abortion will make our 
military stronger. You know, I want to be clear on this. My 
hold has nothing to do with the Supreme Court decision to the 
access of abortion. This is about not forcing the taxpayers of 
this country to fund abortion. That has been a bipartisan 
consensus for more than 40 years.
    The military has performed abortions for years. All were 
cases of rape, incest, and the harm to the mom. Over the past 
40 years, I don't recall one military person ever complaining 
that we weren't performing enough abortions.
    Nor did the military raise alarm that our service men and 
women were being placed in areas that had restrictive policies 
on abortion. Poland's restrictive policies. Japan. Djibouti. 
All these theaters have abortion policy.
    Yet our military changed the policy to do this job in these 
different theaters. As of 12 days ago, you all got the American 
taxpayer on the hook to pay for travel and time off for 
elective abortions, and you did not make this with anybody in 
this room or Congress taking a vote. In fact, this contradicts 
what Congress has actually voted for. Most of us, some of us in 
the room, if not all Senators that have been complaining about 
this, have voted for the Hyde Amendment many, many times.
    But now, my colleagues on the left, like this abortion 
issue is good for a campaign, and that is what this shouldn't 
be about. I am not going to let our military be politicized. I 
want our military to be the strongest and deadliest it has ever 
been. But I also want the Administration to follow the law. As 
long as I have a voice in this body, Congress will write the 
laws. Not Secretary Defense, not the Joint Chiefs.
    General, you said nothing is more expensive than preparing 
for war or fighting a war. I truly agree. That is the reason, 
if we want something to spend money on, let's pass it and let's 
put it in the NDAA.
    You know, I represent Alabama, but I also represent 
everybody in this country. Everybody, all 320 million. All of 
us do. Y'all represent the military. But you also are 
responsible and represent every citizen in this country. That 
is the reason this country is so strong and we all need to 
understand that.
    Get on the same page. I am willing to work with you. I am 
not here to fight. I am here--we are all on the same team, and 
I want to work with you to make this happen. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. I think it is appropriate that the Secretary 
and, or the General--need to respond.
    Secretary Austin. Well, thank you, sir, and first of all, 
let me just say thanks for the support you have given us to 
this point. I really implore you to reconsider and allow our 
nominations to move forward. It will make a significant 
difference for our force. Just to address a couple of things 
that you mentioned.
    First of all, you said that I had our troops focus on 
rooting out extremism and nothing could be further from the 
truth. You know, each of our units, troops spent a couple of 
hours talking about a number of things.
    Now, we have always had regulations against extremist 
behavior. You have heard me say that 99.9 percent of our troops 
are focused on the right things each and every day. But in this 
case, a small set of actions can have outsized impact.
    On the vaccine mandate, the vaccine mandate, in my view, 
saved lives and it saved a lot of lives. So, you know, I--we 
don't see a strong correlation between vaccine mandate and 
recruiting. We don't see that because we have done the surveys 
that indicate that that is just not true, that there is not a 
strong correlation.
    Now, on the issue of providing non-covered reproductive 
health care for our women, I would just say, Senator, almost 
one in five of our troops are women and they don't get a chance 
to choose where they are station.
    So almost 80,000 of our women are stationed in places 
that--where they don't have access to non-covered reproductive 
health care, and I heard from our troops, I heard from our 
senior leaders, I heard from our Chiefs and also our 
Secretaries.
    This policy is based on strong legal ground, and it is not 
a law, it is a policy, and so, you know, we obviously don't 
pass laws in the Department of Defense. But again, I assure you 
that we have great respect for this body, Congress, and we will 
do everything within our power to make sure that we continue to 
work with Congress.
    Again, you supported us in a number of ways, Senator. I am 
personally grateful for that support, and I know my colleagues 
are as well. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Let me recognize Senator Manchin.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I want to thank 
all of you for your service and for being here today to 
testify. I first want to say to General Milley, I want to take 
a moment to thank you for your 43 years of service, the 
commitment to our country, and the dedication and sacrifice 
your family has made for that with you able to serve. I look 
forward to you have an enjoyment retirement and your second 
career.
    I know whatever it will be, it will be something special, 
and we look forward to continuing to work with you. Secretary 
Austin, multiple sources, including retired General Officers, 
and National Defense Industrial Association, American 
Enterprise Institute, and your colleague, Mr. McCord, have all 
recognized the damage failing to pass a budget on time has both 
in our national security and the taxpayers.
    What I am trying to get to, and Mr. McCord, no one knows 
better than you how damaging delays and CRs [continuing 
resolutions], have they been. Previously, you noted that from 
fiscal year 1991 to 2010, the average delay for defense 
appropriation was 29 days. That was between 1991 and 2010, and 
that has since ballooned out to 118 days.
    Also, we are talking about the American Enterprise 
Institute. They threw out a rough estimate of $200 million per 
day, $200 million per day under the latest continuing 
resolution that covered the start of fiscal year 2023. That has 
a total of $18 billion.
    So, I guess what I am asking is both of yours and Mr. 
McCord's commitment to get Congress, all of you, to do 
accurate. I mean, I know you come in here and you preach the 
high heavens, and we seem to not take it seriously at all.
    We are talking real dollars now, real dollars, and they 
think that basically the budget keeps ballooning out of sight 
and we have no oversight whatsoever. If we as Congress just did 
our job on time, we are told that overall, you could save 
anywhere between 5 to 10 percent of the request you have. That 
is $40 to $80 billion a year. Is that an accurate statement?
    Secretary Austin. I think so, and I defer to Secretary 
McCord for exact figures----
    Senator Manchin. Well, let him respond also.
    Secretary Austin. But you are absolutely right, Senator, 
and you heard me say in my opening statement that the best way 
that Congress can help us in this year going forward is to try 
to get an on-time appropriation done. You know, without that, 
we can't do new starts. We can't do a number of things, and you 
can't get that time back. You know, it is gone, and so that 
puts us further behind in terms of our competition with 
adversaries like China.
    Senator Manchin. Secretary McCord.
    Mr. McCord. Yes, I would concur. Your figures are accurate, 
Senator. As the Secretary said, we can't buy back time with 
money, and that goes on the readiness side if a missed training 
rotation due to shortage of funds.
    But especially harmful on the contracting side, where we 
have got areas like the triad where we are trying to move the 
bomber into lower production, that we can't take those next 
steps under CRs, as you know, and that is the biggest lost 
opportunity when it comes to moving forward. We are very 
constrained legally.
    Senator Manchin. So basically, we have nonproductive money 
that we are appropriating that is used basically to make up for 
the inefficiencies of Congress because of our budget process.
    Without you having to say anything or confirm that, that is 
what I am taking away from this little conversation that we 
have had. I am doing everything I can to make sure we do our 
job on time. You know, by April 1st, by law, House and Senate 
was supposed to have a budget.
    By April 15th, by law, we are supposed to have one 
reconciled. By September 30th, by law, we are supposed to pass. 
That would change the course of what we are doing how we are 
spending right now, tremendously, rather than cutting anything, 
just being efficient. So, I would hope that we would all take 
that seriously.
    General Milley, as you know, since the beginning of the 
Putin's illegal war in Ukraine, the United States has provided 
over $76 billion in justified funding to support Ukraine in 
both the military defense of their people in freedom, but also 
in humanitarian and infrastructure support.
    Can you speak to your confidence in the United States, 
NATO, Ukrainian weapons accountability, and possibly elaborate 
on the Joint Strategic oversight plan that was announced by 
this year by the Inspector Generals of the DOD, State 
Department, USAID. You know, they all----
    General Milley. As you know, Senator, we do not have any 
uniformed troops or civilians, for that matter, accompanying 
Ukrainian forces in the front line. We do have folks working 
out of the embassy, so they are working at the Ministry of 
Defense level, and that is as far as our own hands-on 
accountability goes.
    We do have some other means through reporting that the 
Ukrainians report to us, and I will be happy to talk about that 
in a classified session. But the there are some means and 
mechanisms of doing some accountability. It is not as rigorous 
as you might think. But I think the biggest way to measure the 
accountability is effectiveness on the Russian forces.
    These are anti-tank munitions, this artillery is having a 
devastating effect on the Russians. As you know, publicly, the 
Russians have well over 200,000 casualties. Their offensive 
aspirations have come essentially to a halt.
    Their capabilities have been--their ground forces have been 
absolutely impaled on this Ukrainian bayonet, so to speak, and 
that is largely due to the resources that the United States and 
other countries have provided. Although we don't have by name 
DODIC [Department of Defense Identification Code] sort of 
accountability, shell number accountability, you can see the 
accountability on the battlefield.
    Senator Manchin. Yes, my time is running out. I would love 
to ask you about the AUMF [Authorization for Use of Military 
Force], but I am sure you probably talked about the AUMF before 
I got here. But thank you so much. I appreciate it.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Austin, 
by the way, for both of you, thank you for your service to the 
country. We really do appreciate it. I do. I know I do. The 
folks back home do. Secretary Austin, I wanted to ask you a 
couple of questions sort of along the lines of what Senator 
Tuberville asked.
    You mentioned earlier that you didn't want to spend a lot 
of time and you thought that there was a drag on our force, and 
spending money on things that don't make us a fighting force. 
You just mentioned that you don't get the time back.
    With the stand down day to address extremism, that cost the 
military and taxpayers nearly 5.4 million man hours. As we talk 
about recruitment, I think it is completely naive to, when we 
talk about the numbers, to separate the challenges that we have 
now from the politics, the divisive politics that have been 
injected now into the military.
    The military stands as this great meritocracy where people 
can achieve great things. But by infusing divisive DEI 
trainings, by infusing abortion politics, by infusing COVID 
vaccine mandates, it has created division in the ranks.
    We have heard from those military members, and I sent you a 
letter last week, and I want to ask you, we talked about in the 
letter, referenced the $86.5 million for dedicated diversity 
and inclusion activities. I want to ask you here today, how 
many DEI related positions exist in the Department of Defense?
    Secretary Austin. I can't speak to that specific number. I 
will take that question for the record, with your permission, 
Senator.
    Senator Schmitt. Sure.
    Secretary Austin. In terms of that number, it is a small 
percentage of an $842 billion budget. I would just further 
point out with respect to DEI, I think, you know, Senator, that 
Congress requires that we have a DEI program. In the 2020 NDAA, 
it states the Secretary of Defense shall design and implement a 
5-year strategic plan for diversity and inclusion in a 
Department of Defense.
    Senator Schmitt. Yes, I don't--but I don't know what these 
activities are, which is the purpose of the letter. I don't 
know what materials are being submitted. We looked, so 
hopefully the response to the letter will be in fact be 
responsive to what actually is being pushed with these so-
called trainings. Then I do want to ask you, so there were 
nearly 17,000--well there are over 8,000 military men and women 
who lost their jobs because of the COVID vaccine mandate. Is 
that correct?
    Secretary Austin. That is about right.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. So, when we talk about recruitment 
challenges, are you actively going after to try to get those 
8,000 people back?
    Secretary Austin. They have the ability to----
    Senator Schmitt. Well, right. No, I am asking, what are 
your efforts?
    Secretary Austin. They have the ability to reapply for 
readmission----
    Senator Schmitt. Are you recruiting these folks?
    Secretary Austin. We are not recruiting, but they have the 
ability to----
    Senator Schmitt.--Sayonara 8,000 well-trained folks.
    Secretary Austin. We are recruiting new recruits.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay, and so, what happens now to the 
remaining several thousand who didn't get the vaccine? Are you 
intending to fire them as well? There are several folks that 
weren't immediately dismissed who refused the vaccine. They are 
still in the military. Are you planning to fire those folks as 
well?
    Secretary Austin. The vaccine mandate, Senator, has been 
rescinded.
    Senator Schmitt. So, you don't--now, even though they were 
refusing when you did have the policy?
    Secretary Austin. That is right.
    Senator Schmitt. So, your commitment here today is those 
folks are not going to lose their jobs.
    Secretary Austin. Not for a vaccine mandate, Senator----
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, I would submit that with----
    Secretary Austin. If I could, like would like to go back to 
the----
    Senator Schmitt. Sure.
    Secretary Austin.--5 million hours that you mentioned, and 
I would like to ask the chairman, who submitted that number, 
where that number came from.
    Senator Schmitt. We would be happy to back it up. If you 
take the stand down day by the number of folks that didn't work 
that day, that is where we get the numbers. So, we would be 
happy to followup specifically. I do have a question----
    Secretary Austin. That is not accurate, Senator.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, how--maybe you can answer, how 
many man hours were sacrificed that day? You just testified you 
can't get those hours back. How many hours were sacrificed on 
the stand down day?
    Secretary Austin. Let me ask you and tell you where the 
numbers came from.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, maybe you can get us those 
numbers when you respond to the letter also.
    Secretary Austin. As simple as this. You know, when asked 
to provide that number, his approach was, there are 2.1 million 
troops, each one each troop spent 2 hours, and that is where 
the number comes.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, you can't get the time back, 
right. Whatever that number was, you can't get that time back. 
General Milley, I do want to ask you a question, because I am 
limited on time. I do want to ask you about the Philippines, 
which I think you had mentioned in your previous remarks about 
that strength, that relationship continues to grow, which I 
personally think is critical in the Indo-Pacific.
    Can you talk about what some of those efforts, where you 
think that is headed? I think as we, you know, obviously the 
allies that are talked about the most, Japan, Australia, and 
India, but I think the Philippines are critical. Could you talk 
about the strategic value of strengthening that relationship?
    General Milley. Again, Senator, but just a point of 
clarification. It is 2.1 million, 2 hours, in fact, 2 hours per 
person. That is with where the 5.4 million. That is out of 2.8 
billion man hours available, in fact, on a 10-hour workday, 5 
days a week for the U.S. Military.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, whether we are talking about 
dollars or hours, millions still matter. No, no, I folks, I 
represent they a million is a big number.
    General Milley. I am just saying where the math came from, 
and on the Philippines, but in broad--more broadly than the 
Philippines, generally the Western Pacific. It is my view that 
China is, you heard it in the opening statement, is trying to 
become the regional hegemon within perhaps 10 or 15 years or 
so.
    Part of that, of course, is putting the Philippines and 
other countries in the region at a disadvantage. Those 
countries want the United States presence there. They clearly 
do. There is a really an underreported arms race going on in 
the Western Pacific right now. These countries are arming 
themselves up and they very much, with very few exceptions, 
want the United States there.
    That is why the Secretary traveled to the Philippines. That 
is why we are looking at access, basing, and oversight. That is 
why we are looking at a repositioning in the Western Pacific. 
It is a design there to be forward deployed in order to deter 
armed conflict with a great power, great power being China in 
this case, and deter Chinese aggression, not only in the 
Western Pacific, perhaps elsewhere.
    So, these are all linked together, tied together. There are 
many other initiatives ongoing by the services and also by 
other countries as well. But it is really critical and it is 
really critical that we get it done right, and we need to move 
out with a sense of urgency because the next 5 years, I think, 
are going to be determinative of really what comes in the 
future with our relationship with China.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Peters, please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to the three 
of you, thank you for your testimony here today and thank you 
for the work you do. I also want to begin by commending the 
Department's efforts to invest in and incentivize funding to 
build semiconductor manufacturing facilities and advanced 
research and development activities at both the national and 
the regional levels.
    Under Secretary McCord, could you speak to how the fiscal 
year 2024 DOD budget request takes advantage of the CHIPS Act 
[CHIPS and Science Act of 2022] that Congress passed recently, 
that funding, and makes the necessary investments to ensure 
that we have both a resilient and a robust domestic 
microelectronics manufacturing ecosystem for both state-of-the-
art as well as legacy chips.
    Mr. McCord. Thank you, Senator. First, I just want to say 
that the Department really appreciates congressional leadership 
on the CHIPS Act. It really speaks to the recognition of the 
whole-of-government approach needed with China.
    CHIPS is separate from our budget in the sense that it is 
now a stand-alone authorization. We had prior to that in the 
2022 and 2023 budget started a pretty robust microelectronics 
effort, Under Secretary Austin, that was really tied to defense 
specific capabilities like radiation hardening.
    What we are doing with CHIPS on top of that then is really 
that broader industrial base, the fabrication, labs to fabs. I 
understand that that is now--we are now in our request for 
solution source selection for the proposals that went out in 
that first year of CHIPS that Congress created last year.
    So, we are moving out now with source selection to actually 
build out that capability. Then that--again, that sits on top 
of the more defense specific microelectronics, which is over $2 
billion in our budget.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. Secretary Austin, the 
development of Taiwan's reserve military capacity is without 
question a key component of ensuring that their military is 
well prepared to deter, and if needed, to defeat a potential 
PRC invasion of the island.
    However, I remain concerned that the Department is not 
sufficiently addressing the hardships that exist at the 
authority and funding level with increased mil-to-mil and civ-
mil interactions between the United States and Taiwan. Current 
policy restricts the level of interaction that United States 
Forces, particularly the National Guard, have with Taiwan, both 
CONUS [Contiguous United States] and OCONUS [Outside the 
Contiguous United States].
    Additionally, current restrictions do not allow the Guard 
to consistently engage with Taiwan under the same authority 
that the State partnership program utilizes. Rather, other 
authorities must be utilized to justify and to fund National 
Guard's involvement in this strategic relationship.
    Essentially, what is happening is creating this maze of 
funding and authorities that restricts consistent engagement 
that is so important. It creates undue processes and procedures 
to coordinate and fund cooperation.
    So, my question for you, sir, is how is the Department 
reassessing the relevant authorities and lines of funding to 
help streamline the National Guard's ability to support 
security cooperation efforts with Taiwan?
    Secretary Austin. We are taking a hard--thanks for Senator. 
We are taking a hard look at all the things that we can do to 
increase the capability in the reserve forces. You are right, 
Senator, this is a--this is critical for them going forward.
    Our guard has done amazing work with other countries across 
the globe. Most recent example, as you know, is the work that 
they did in Ukraine prior to this invasion, and so that kind of 
engagement, we think, is critical. So, we are going to continue 
to find ways to make sure that we are we are helping as much as 
we can in accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act.
    We will relook all of our policies and authorities to make 
sure that we can streamline this as best possible. In the 
meantime, we are going to continue to do what we are doing to 
increase our capability.
    Senator Peters. Secretary Austin, on Saturday, Russia 
accused Azerbaijan of violating the cease-fire, which ended the 
2020 war with Armenia. This comes as Azerbaijan has blockaded 
the Lachin corridor, and more than 3 months--for more than 3 
months, leading to what is a humanitarian crisis in Karabakh.
    I recently wrote to you and Secretary Blinken regarding the 
use of section 907 waiver authority and the potential effects 
of U.S. support in that conflict. My question for you is the 
military, is United States military aid supporting the 
Azerbaijani military in enabling their aggression against 
Armenia?
    Secretary Austin. We are clearly not enabling aggression, 
Senator. As you know, we have had a relationship with them and 
we have provided assistance in some cases, but in all cases, in 
use monitoring is really important and we have been focused on 
that. So, we have we have taken a responsible approach to this, 
and again, we do not support, will not support aggressive 
activity.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Senator Peters. Senator 
Mullin, please.
    Senator Mullin. Sorry, my microphone came off there. Thank 
you, Chairman, and thank you all for being here. General 
Milley, I want to thank you again for the phone call and the 
conversation we had yesterday. I greatly appreciate your time 
on that. As we stated in that conversation, I wanted to have 
something for the record.
    Before I begin with the rest of my questions, I would like 
to touch base on the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan 
with American troops. Will you commit to providing a complete 
after-action report on the withdrawal to Congress that provides 
accountability and transparency for the American people, for 
the closure of lives that were lost and the people left behind?
    General Milley. Absolutely, and the Secretary of defense 
has directed that we do that, and that is done by the Joint 
Staff in CENTCOM as well. But also, the Department of Defense 
is doing that, so I absolutely commit to that.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you. General, as you know, the 
industrial base is going through some changes right now.
    Prior to the Russian invasion of the Ukraine sites, or 
invasion of Ukraine, sites like McAllister's Army ammunition 
plant, we are planning on seeing to see a decrease in 
productivity.
    Since this invasion, there's obviously been a new emphasis 
on where we are moving. Can you speak to what we are seeing 
with plans like McAllister and the ammunition depots, what the 
plan is and the future looks like for the industrial era?
    General Milley. Yes, the--thanks, Senator. The defense 
industrial base, as the Secretary said, has had several 
different sessions to include the SecDef and others within the 
Department to really go over the defense industrial base in 
some detail.
    One of the big lessons coming out of Ukraine is the 
incredible consumption of conventional munitions and the 
conduct of what is really a limited regional war. So, a great 
power war, if that were to ever happen, God forbid it does, the 
consumption rates would be incredible.
    The Secretary tasked us to go back and review all of the 
various operational plans and the COCOMS to determine if our 
estimates are correct, because if those estimates then feed 
into these budgets to buy the ammunition, that study is 
ongoing.
    But we can tell you that, for example, 155 ammunition, 
which is in high demand in the Ukraine fight, we report out 
daily in a written report to the Secretary of Defense on all 
the various ammunition statuses that we have.
    I won't go over that in an open session, but in a closed 
session, we can do that if you would like. The bottom line is 
the defense industrial base is critical to the defense of the 
United States, and our ability to produce, manufacture and 
produce the logistical capability, especially munitions, is 
fundamental.
    You mentioned McAllister. I had an opportunity to visit 
McAllister. That is an incredible facility with incredibly 
skilled workers that are highly motivated and it is really a 
one of a type facility. It is an amazing place.
    Places like that exist elsewhere in the United States as 
well, and we need to pay great attention to that defense 
industrial base if we are ever going to successfully compete 
and hopefully not actually have a war with the great power.
    Senator Mullin. What is interesting is the relationship 
between the public and private service there. A lot of our 
industrial areas around the country, especially in McAllister, 
where we have the public sector working with the private sector 
and delivering missions on time.
    I think there is a great amount of pride there, that I 
think the communities that have the ability and actually the 
desire to help are standing ready, and McAllister is no 
different.
    General Milley. That is great. The workers there are off 
the charts incredible. Skilled workers, highly motivated.
    Senator Mullin. Focus on Fort Sill just a second. General 
Rainey stated recently, the Army Futures Command will be 
reviewing their use of cross-functional teams. Fort Sill in 
Lawton, Oklahoma is currently home to two cross-functional 
teams. As the original architect of this system, while serving 
as Army Chief of Staff, can you speak to the usefulness of the 
future of these programs, sir?
    General Milley. Yes, they the Army Futures Command and the 
priorities that the Army laid out for modernization 6, 7 years 
ago are still what they are working on. They have had the most 
successful modernization programs they have had in decades as a 
result of that Futures Command.
    Key to that was the cross-functional teams led by General 
Officers in each case. Those cross-functional teams were 
designed intentionally to be temporary until those programs are 
brought online. For example, long range precision fires, 
feature vertical lift, the next generation combat vehicle, 
those are programs that once they get brought online and 
brought into the force, those cross-functional teams will go 
away.
    But it has been a highly successful and innovative 
organizational concept. What General Rainey is talking about 
now is the next step, getting it to the next level, because 
those programs are well underway. So, he is not talking about 
getting rid of those CFTs. He is talking about looking at the 
next set of CFTs.
    For example, all the main sensing would be one. There is 
several of these others that they are looking at, and they have 
not made any decisions yet. The Army hasn't. But Secretary of 
the Army will make those decision in due time.
    But it is an excellent program, it is an excellent Command, 
and they are really moving out very, very well in the 
modernization of the U.S. Army.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you for clarifying that. I yield 
back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Mullin. Senator King is 
recognized and will take over as I go vote, and the vote is on, 
for those who have not yet voted.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Austin, I 
just want to clarify a couple of things about vaccines and 
vaccine mandates. I am told that a routine mustering into the 
service requires something like 13 vaccinations. Is that 
accurate?
    Secretary Austin. I think it is nine, Senator. Depending on 
where you are going. At any one point in time, that number can 
increase up to about 13, sir.
    Senator King. Depends on the on where the soldier, sailor, 
marine, or guardian will be assigned.
    General Milley. Right.
    Senator King. That is just routine. That is part of the 
military for as long as we can remember. Is it true, General, 
that--or sorry, Mr. Secretary, that General Washington mandated 
vaccination against smallpox in the Continental Army at the 
time of the Revolutionary War?
    Secretary Austin. That is true.
    Senator King. The purpose of this vaccination mandate had 
nothing to do with politics. It had to do with saving lives and 
maintaining readiness, did it not?
    Secretary Austin. That is exactly right.
    Senator King. I remember being on a call when we were in 
sort of lockdown here with regard to the USS Teddy Roosevelt, 
where the--in early March, April, and May 2020, the virus 
ripped through the ship.
    I think over 1,000 people tested positive because of the 
nature of their close military proximity. Doesn't that make 
vaccinating against an infectious disease all the more 
important in the military?
    Secretary Austin. To me and to all of my colleagues, it 
absolutely does, Senator. I told chairman a number of times 
that in my lifetime, the only thing that I have seen that has 
been able to disable a carrier is this vaccine.
    Senator King. It is interesting because General Washington 
said that, when it alerted John Hancock about the vaccine, he 
said, this is the most dangerous thing to our troops, more 
dangerous than the sword of the enemy.
    Exactly what you just said. General Milley, I want to thank 
you for the integrity that you have demonstrated in your 
position. I remember, and I am sure you, too, to questioning 
you at your confirmation hearing.
    My question was, will you tell the truth, will you give 
your best military advice, even if it doesn't suit the 
leadership that you were working with at the time? You have 
done that, and I want to thank you for that and for the 
extraordinary service that you have provided to this country 
throughout your career, but over the last 4 years.
    I appreciate your keeping your word to me and this 
Committee from the date of your confirmation. General Austin, 
allowing the intelligence about the imminence of the Russian 
invasion was, I think, a brilliant move by the Administration 
at the beginning.
    However, why are we telling everybody in the world what we 
are sending and when we are sending it? This morning I learned 
on National Public Radio, and I suspect Putin did, although I 
don't know if he listens to National Public Radio, how many 
tanks have arrived in Ukraine and when they are going to be 
deployed. Why do we--why do we broadcast that information?
    Secretary Austin. Well, we certainly try not to, Senator. 
As you know, as various countries provide contributions, they 
are proud of those contributions, and sometimes we find our 
colleagues providing a bit too much information. But I----
    Senator King. You understand my question?
    Secretary Austin. I do. I do. When I meet with our 
colleagues here, and I meet with them every month, this is a 
point that I will continue to drive home that the Russians are 
absolutely focused on where this equipment is and what it is 
doing. So, we have got to help ourselves.
    Senator King. I fully agree. A couple of questions. I am 
going to submit for the record about ISR [Intelligence, 
Surveillance and Reconnaissance] capability, both in NORTHCOM 
and SOUTHCOM, which was in their unfunded priority list. But 
you can make a strong case that should have been in the base 
budget if ISR is so important, particularly in counter-drug, 
where people are being killed every day. I think my calculation 
is about 20 people have died in this country of overdoses since 
this hearing started this morning.
    To not have sufficient ISR and resources to interdict what 
we can find, I think is a misallocation of resources. I am 
going to submit that for the record. Finally, General Milley, 
probably the word that has been used the most today is 
readiness.
    The question I have is, are we preparing for the right war, 
in terms of the change nature of war that you have seen over 
the course of your career. If a conflict comes, it is going to 
start with cyber, electronic, directed energy, space. Are we 
adequately taking account of the changing nature of conflict so 
that we are not preparing for the last war, but for hopefully 
there won't be another one, but if there is another conflict, 
that is where our effort should be going?
    General Milley. Really briefly, Senator, I think we are in 
a pivotal period here, a transition period, where we have a 
method of war that is based out of an industrial age sort of 
thing, and we are moving to a different operational environment 
sometime in the future.
    So, think about things like robotics, artificial 
intelligence, hypersonics, cyber. There is a wide variety of 
technologies that are coming at us very, very quickly. And the 
country that maximizes and optimizes those technologies for the 
conduct of warfighting is going to have a decisive advantage, 
at least at the outset of the next war.
    Now, at the same time, you can't throw the baby out with 
the bathwater. We are in a transition period, so we are still 
going to need ships and planes and tanks, et cetera. But we are 
in that transition period, and I think this budget, and the 
last one, and future budgets are going to have to move us in 
the direction of modernizing the force, transforming this force 
into a future operating environment that is probably not very 
far away, probably about 10 years or so, and we need to move 
all with a sense of urgency.
    Senator King. Thank you. I agree, and the R&D [research and 
development] emphasis in the last budget, in this budget, I 
think is one of the most important policy directions that this 
budget represents. On behalf of the Chairman, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
thank our witnesses, General Milley, in particular, for your 
service, and General Austin, as well General--I am sorry, Mr. 
Secretary. I appreciate you highlighting the suicide issue in 
your opening statement. As you know, that is hitting the forces 
in Alaska particularly hard.
    Still having a hard time getting our arms around that. It 
is still happening, so working together on that one is a high 
priority of mine, and I appreciate you putting a lot of 
attention to that. I first want to begin by quickly covering an 
oversight issue deeply concerning to Members of this Committee, 
which was an abuse of the President's Commander-in-Chief 
authority when he gave a campaign speech last fall with Active 
Duty marines as political props.
    This wasn't a speech about Veterans Day or Memorial Day or 
speech about the heroic actions of the marines in Iwo Jima or 
the chosen reservoir. It was the most partisan political speech 
of the President's 2 years in office where he disparaged tens 
of millions of Americans that he claimed threaten the Republic, 
did not respect the Constitution, on and on and on. Really 
harsh partisan campaign speech, and there flanking the 
President of the United States were two Active Duty marines.
    Shameful, outrageous, infuriating. I have raised this issue 
with both of you and other military leaders and how 
inappropriate this image was to our republic. General Milley, 
you have talked about how the military needs to stay out of 
politics. I assume in good faith on both of your parts that you 
didn't know this.
    But what I want is a commitment from both of you the next 
time some White House staffer thinks it is a good idea to 
politicize the military with a political speech like this, with 
two Active Duty marines or anyone else standing by the 
President, that both of you will put your foot down and not 
only say no, but say hell no. Can I get your commitment on 
doing that to this Committee?
    Secretary Austin. Senator, I think you know that I am 
opposed to any type of politicization of the military, and I 
will not comment on my President's actions.
    Senator Sullivan. You think that was appropriate, Mr. 
Secretary?
    Secretary Austin. Again, Senator----
    Senator Sullivan. Do you think that was in your personal 
opinion, General Milley--you have been speaking about this. 
Look, I thought both you were just--you guys are going to go, 
no. I have got a bunch more questions. But if we are debating 
this, let's have the debate. Do you think that was appropriate, 
General Milley?
    You have spoken about not politicizing the military. That 
is just outrageous, and by the way, Democrats and Republicans 
agree with me. So, this isn't even that controversial. The 
President made a mistake and politicized--go read the speech. 
What do you think, General Milley?
    General Milley. I am firmly committed to a nonpartizan, 
nonpolitical military.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay, so if the White House has an idea 
to do something like that again, will both of you commit to 
this Committee to tell whoever the staff is, hey, don't do 
that. Bad idea. Marines shouldn't be----
    General Milley. I will speak for myself. I have been asked 
in the past in two different administrations on things just 
like that, and I have always said, keep the military out of 
politics.
    Senator Sullivan. I am surprised we are having a debate on 
this. Unfortunately. I am burning a lot of time. It is an 
important issue, though. I think we all would agree. I am going 
to next turn to Senator Wicker's point on the budget. Budgets 
are a reflection of an administration's priorities.
    This Administration is now three different times in a row, 
submitted inflation adjusted cuts to the Department of Defense, 
while many other Federal agencies have gotten double digit 
increases. This was the 2022 budget. You see, the DOD was last, 
second last with a 3 percent cut. The 2023 budget, same kind of 
issue.
    We are down there last. That was actually a 4 percent cut. 
In this budget, once again, one of the down here with 3 percent 
cut, while other agencies, EPA almost 20 percent. Both of you 
said this is the most dangerous time since World War II. This 
current budget shrinks the Army, shrinks the Navy, shrinks the 
Marine Corps.
    Doesn't that embolden our allies like Xi Jinping and Putin, 
not deter them? General Milley, in your personal opinion, do 
you support a budget that actually shrinks three of the four 
services, particularly the Navy? The Congress here has been 
very clear that we want to grow the Navy. The Chinese are 
looking at our Navy naval fleet and we are shrinking it.
    That is the budget. The President probably assumes 
correctly that this Committee will bump it up significantly. 
But do both of you support a budget that shrinks three of the 
four services?
    What would you say to the issue of emboldening our allies 
when they see budgets like this that we 3 years in a row have 
to rectify by adding significant funding to them. I will ask 
both of you, gentleman.
    Secretary Austin. Well, Senator, first of all, let me thank 
you for your continued support for DOD. We really appreciate 
what you and your colleagues have done over the years. I think 
you heard me say earlier that we went through great pains to 
link our budget request to our strategy.
    We are going after the capabilities that we think we need 
to be successful in any endeavor, and so, I am satisfied that 
this budget gives us what we need. It is an $842 billion 
budget. Again, I think it allows us to go after the right 
capabilities.
    Senator Sullivan. General.
    General Milley. Senator, as I said in my opening statement, 
I think the uniformed military can defend this country with an 
$842 billion budget. That is a lot of money, and I think if we 
put it in the right place against the right priorities, we will 
be able to adequately defend this country.
    Senator Sullivan. In your personal opinion, do you agree 
with shrinking the Army, Navy, and Marine Corps?
    General Milley. The size of the forces--I will go one into 
one here. When I was Chief of Staff of the Army, I had 
advocated for about a 525 to 50 size ground----
    Senator Sullivan. This budget takes it to 450.
    General Milley. Right, and so, I advocated for that because 
my analysis of future combat indicated that. This strategy, 
though--this is a strategy informed budget. This strategy and 
starting under General Mattis, or Secretary Mattis and now 
Secretary Austin, this strategy takes us to an essentially a 
one war strategy, a one war strategy with a main effort being 
China.
    So, the question is, what forces are going to be required 
to confront or potentially fight China? I think the Army and 
Marines definitely have a role to play, but the weight of the 
effort is going to be the Navy and the Air Force--the Navy and 
the Air Force. Senator Sullivan: Budget shrinks the Navy.
    General Milley. It does buy a couple of ships for a 
temporary period of time. I talked to the CNO [Chief Naval 
Officer] last night at length about this to make sure that I 
was clear on the Navy piece of it. The ships that are being 
decommissioned and divested of are having significant 
maintenance--in fact that the ships for the amphibs, they have 
been in the yard for years. They are costing way more money 
just a repair than are worthwhile.
    So, they are trying to shift to the next generation of 
amphib. You will see the curve, I think, when they submit their 
shipbuilding plan, you will see the curve going up in the not-
too-distant future. So, there is a temporary downward spiral of 
a couple of ships in the overall shipbuilding program.
    But this budget buys nine. If you are down two, the net 
effect is you down two ships out of a 296 ship Navy. Then it 
goes down to 293, and then it starts coming back up. Now, is 
that huge? I think the capability of those ships matters. As we 
all know, the capability of our ships are different than the 
capability of the Chinese ships.
    I know that the Chinese have a lot of ships. However, we 
not only have the United States Navy, we have the United States 
Navy working with the Japanese Navy, working with the 
Australian Navy, working with the British Navy, work with the 
French Navy.
    If you start adding up these navies, China is not only 
outnumbered, but they are outgunned, and in terms of 
capabilities, if you look at just what I think is the most 
lethal capability in the United States Navy today is the 
submarine.
    Our subs, the Chinese Navy or the Russian Navy are not even 
in the same ballpark as our submarine force. Our submarine 
force can bring people to their knees just by themselves. So, 
our Navy and this budget--we never have enough things that we 
always--we always want something else. But this budget 
adequately protects the American people.
    I am not going to--I can't compare it against the rest of 
the President's priorities. But this $842 billion budget buys a 
lot of kit, a lot of training. We are focused on two things, 
lethality and readiness, lethality and readiness, that is all 
we do every day. 24,000 live fires last year. The 24,000 of 
those--you talked about a continuing--I am sorry, Senator.
    Senator Sullivan. No, no, I thought it was a good answer. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, General, appreciate 
your service. Again, thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator 
Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, 
earlier this month a former soldier was sentenced to 45 years 
in prison for attempting to murder U.S. servicemembers, for 
attempting to provide material support to terrorists, and 
illegally transmitting national defense information.
    In fact, Mr. Metzler, the convicted gentleman, provided 
sensitive details about his unit, including information about 
its location, movement, and security to members of the 
extremist organization Order of the 9 Angles, a white 
supremacist, neo-Nazi and pro-jihadist group.
    Mr. Chairman, I ask unanimous consent to enter into the 
record a RAND report dated 2021 that is entitled Reducing the 
Risk of Extremist Activity in the United States Military.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This report 
states, and I will just briefly say this, the vast majority of 
military personnel and their families are not extremists, but 
even a small number of people engaged in extremist activities 
could damage the United States military's reputation, its 
force, its members, and the larger community.
    Extremist activities can also be harmful to individuals who 
are radicalized and their friends and family. That said, as 
someone who wore the uniform for 23 years, I mean, I was just a 
reservist and a guardsman, did not reach the ranks of the 
gentleman here or even some of my colleagues on the other side 
of the aisle.
    I have to say I am offended at the implication that 
conducting extremist training means that our military is filled 
with extremists. Just as I personally am appreciative of the 
fact that we have sharp training and by conducting sharp 
training, we are not saying that every member of the military 
is a harasser or a perpetrator of military sexual assault.
    Similarly, my entire time since I have left the military 
has been spent working on mental health for our troops. By 
providing mental health training and resiliency training, we 
are not saying that the military is filled with people who are 
about to commit suicide.
    This is simply part of readiness. So, that said, I am going 
to switch. I just want to put this on record because it is very 
offensive to me to very politically say that extremism in the 
military and training against it is saying that the military is 
full of extremists.
    The military is full of the bravest, most amazing men and 
women who do the best job that they can, and they need to be 
equipped to do their jobs. That means that they need to be 
equipped with the training to recognize sexual harassment when 
it occurs, to recognize extremism when it occurs, to recognize 
signs of hidden wounds of war, when it occurs so that we can 
keep our units in the highest levels of readiness. Okay, I am 
done with that.
    Last month, I led a CODEL [Congressional Delegations] to 
Japan in Indonesia, and I am planning to going back to the 
region twice more in just the next few months, and this, in 
June, Senator Sullivan and I will be leading a delegation to 
the Shangri-La Dialog.
    Mr. Secretary, I believe you are going to be speaking 
there, and I look forward to hearing your remarks there. In 
August, I am planning to take a bipartisan group of my 
colleagues to visit the Philippines, Indonesia, and Thailand to 
spotlight the importance of opportunities that our nations have 
to partner together.
    Mr. Secretary, in your testimony, you highlighted the DOD's 
enhanced maritime security with the Philippines and exercises 
with Thailand. In what other ways does the Department's budget 
request support our allies and partners in Southeast Asia? And 
how are you program to achieve integrated deterrence in this 
area of the Indo-Pacific?
    Secretary Austin. Well, thanks, Senator, and certainly you 
with a PDI, Pacific Deterrence Initiative, we are asking you 
for some $9.1 billion to improve infrastructure in the region 
so that we can position our troops further forward and we can 
be more interoperable. You know, presence matters.
    We see a significant investment in the AUKUS agreement, 
Australia, and the UK, and the United States are working 
together to provide the Australians a conventionally armed 
nuclear powered submarine capability. And another pillar of 
AUKUS calls for us to work together on key technologies like AI 
and hypersonics and long-range fires.
    I think that kind of thing, building interoperability is 
really, really key. We are doing some of the same things with 
the Japanese as we work to become more interoperable with them. 
We are helping our partners and allies strengthen their 
capabilities in terms of cyber.
    I think all of those things will add value. But we are 
seeing things in the region now that we weren't seeing 2 years 
ago, the Japanese doubling its defense investment more access 
to the Philippines.
    As you know, 2 years ago, we were about to get kicked out 
of the Philippines. But we have moved to strengthen our 
relationship, and I just think that is powerful.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I just want to touch on the 
cyber piece. In fact, last year, I included--I am sorry, in 
2021 NDAA, I included legislation that authorized the 
Department of Defense to establish a pilot program to enhance 
cybersecurity, the resilience and the readiness of the military 
forces of Vietnam, Thailand, and Indonesia.
    General Milley, next month I will introduce legislation to 
expand this important program to include Malaysia and the 
Philippines. Can you comment on the value of direct engagement 
with our overseas partners to help build their cyber skills?
    General Milley. I can. Not only cyber skills but any of the 
military skills. We have excellent military to military 
relations with so many countries. If you look at, for example, 
the contact group in Europe that the Secretary has organized, 
54 countries show up to support Ukraine and obviously there is 
only 30 and NATO's so many countries from around the world in 
Asia.
    It is particularly important, I think, given the dynamic 
nature of the geostrategic environment in Asia. So, the more 
countries that we have with us, whether it is cyber or anything 
else, is critically important.
    In the world of cyber, though, we know that cyber and space 
are two domains now of armed conflict, including the 
traditional ones of land, sea and air. So, as we modernize the 
force and move into cyber space, those two domains are going to 
be fundamental to success in any kind of conflict.
    Working with our allies and partners in the region and 
developing their capabilities along with ours, I think will go 
a long way to deterrence. If necessary, if deterrence fails and 
it is necessary, then it will go a long way to prevailing in 
the armed conflict.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, and thank you for your 
remarkable career of service to this Nation and also that of 
your wife. She not only directly saved lives herself in a very 
hands-on way, quite literally, but also her work on mental 
health for our troops is continuing to pay off dividends. Thank 
you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Senator Budd, 
please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and again, thank you 
all for being here today and for your time. It has been very 
helpful. You know, this week, the Senate will likely vote to 
repeal the 1991 and the 2000 to authorizations of use of 
military force against Iraq.
    Now, one of the amendments considered was whether to 
replace the 2000 to AUMF with an authorization for the use of 
force against Iranian backed militias in Iraq.
    That vote failed but I think there is an important issue 
here that needs to be addressed. Now, despite the likely repeal 
of the 2002 AUMF, the United States still has forces in Iraq at 
the invitation of the Iraqi Government to train, advise, and to 
assist Iraqi forces. We also have forces in Syria conducting 
operations against ISIS.
    Now, given Iran's continuing malign activities in the 
region, our forces are at risk of attack from Iranian backed 
militias, and in fact have been attacked by those militias more 
than 80 times, including just last week, resulting in the death 
of a United States contractor and injuries to U.S. 
servicemembers.
    Secretary Austin and General Milley, a brief yes or no, 
please. Do you agree that the President has both the authority 
and the responsibility under Article 2 of the Constitution to 
protect the United States and our forces from attack and the 
threat of imminent attack? Again, yes or no, Secretary Austin
    Secretary Austin. I do, Senator.
    General Milley. Yes, same----
    Senator Budd. Yes. Thank you. But despite the more than 80 
attacks by Iranian backed militias, the United States has only 
responded with force just a handful of times. In my view, that 
is unacceptable. Secretary Austin, earlier you told my 
colleague, Senator Cotton, that our last the retaliatory 
strikes against IRGC infrastructure, it was against 
infrastructure doing.
    Now, does that mean a building or a warehouse? The question 
behind the question is really why not target the IRGC 
leadership or officers directing these attacks?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you, Senator. We can be more 
specific in closed session, but it included a headquarters 
element building and also storage sites where key munitions 
were being stored and other capabilities were being developed, 
and there were people in those facilities.
    Senator Budd. Thank you for that. The point being that we 
need to reassert deterrence and our current responses don't 
seem to effectively do that. Weakness only breeds more 
aggression. Weaknesses are provocative.
    If we only respond when they kill an American, they will 
continue attacking, hoping to injure as many as possible. There 
is no reason why this Administration should not respond more 
forcefully should Iranian backed militias threaten United 
States Forces in Iraq or in Syria. It is important for the 
American people to know that it is not because the 
Administration doesn't have the legal authority to do so. This 
Administration simply seems to lack the will.
    Secretary Austin, another issue that needs to be addressed 
is the Department's use of taxpayer dollars to facilitate 
abortions. Now, I join my colleagues in publicly denouncing the 
policy changes, unfortunately made at your direction, to 
authorize unasked, uncharged absences and travel pay for those 
seeking abortions.
    The military is not a place for social agendas. So, I will 
ask you here, will you rescind those abhorrent policies?
    Secretary Austin. What I will say, Senator, is, number one, 
this policy does not fund abortions, and I want to be clear on 
that. This policy provides access to non-covered reproductive 
health care. As I said earlier, almost one in five of my 
troops, our troops are women.
    Senator Budd. Very aware. But I understand that ultimately 
it is taxpayer dollars that are for this uncharged absences and 
the travel expenses related to that. I understand your point, 
but I still think that is not the right answer.
    Until these policies are rescinded, I am going to also have 
to consider holds against DOD nominees in solidarity with my 
colleagues. Mr. Secretary, you can fix this, 158 holds, in 
essence, are there. You can fix this in nearly in an instant, 
so I would encourage that. Shifting gears, a bit----
    Secretary Austin. Sir, I would encourage you to help us 
make sure that we have the leadership in place to lead our 
magnificent----
    Senator Budd. I would agree with you, completely agree with 
you, and you can fix that nearly instantaneously with a change 
in policy. So, thank you. We understand, Secretary Austin, that 
the Committee has heard from most of the Combatant Commanders 
so far earlier this year.
    I have asked each of them about foreign military sales and 
how that's working in their areas of responsibility, and each 
have said that the process is not fast or flexible enough to 
meet our partners' defense requirements and that we are at risk 
of losing our security of partner of choice status to China.
    So what efforts are the Department taking internally to 
streamline the FMS [Foreign Military Sales] process, and are 
there issues that you think need to be addressed by Congress?
    Secretary Austin. A year ago, I put together a tiger team 
to address this specific issue, and you are right. I mean, 
there are a number of our allies and partners who clearly want 
to see capability be provided quicker.
    I fully understand their concerns. So, we are doing 
everything we can to identify logjams and work through those to 
speed up things. Industry is coming out of a 2-year trough 
there because of COVID, as you know, sir, and, you know, it 
will take a little time for our industry to catch up.
    But we are going to do everything we can to make sure that 
the bureaucracy is not slowing things down. And we will 
continue this work. But I don't disagree with you that this is 
something that requires consistent focus on, and we are going 
to do that.
    Senator Budd. Thank you both. I yield.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Senator Kelly.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Austin, 
earlier today at this hearing, Senator Ernst asked General 
Milley about conflict in the INDOPACOM region, and the 
General's response referenced the importance of irregular 
warfare. So, Secretary Austin, I have been rather disappointed 
with the halting and repetitive process that DOD has exhibited 
as it attempts to establish the irregular warfare center.
    As you may recall, the IW [Irregular Warfare] Center was 
authorized by this Committee back in 2020, and the project was 
intended to honor Arizona Senator and former Armed Services 
Committee Chairman John McCain's legacy of support for the 
concept of a whole society approach to our national security.
    He knew that traditional military strength isn't enough in 
today's geopolitics and that we also need to succeed in the 
irregular and in the competition spaces, not just in conflict. 
In recognition of the original intent for this project, this 
Committee supported naming the Center for Senator John McCain. 
Now, I have also been working closely with this Committee and 
the Department to ensure that we leverage expertise and ideas 
from universities to help our Nation get after these 
significant challenges.
    The original authority identified the McCain Institute at 
Arizona State University as a site to be reviewed as a location 
for the establishment of the center. I appreciate your memo, 
Mr. Secretary, from July 2022 affirming your decision to create 
the Center for Security Studies in irregular warfare and 
directing DOD to act expeditiously, including in determining 
allocation.
    But now we are nearly 3 years down the road and we have had 
numerous duplicative site reviews and we are still waiting for 
a final decision, and what I don't think we need is a new 
basing process. We need a decision.
    It is clear to me that it is time to move forward with 
Arizona State University and ensure that the IW Center can 
deliver on its promise for DOD and the Nation. So, Mr. 
Secretary, can I have your commitment that you will look into 
these delays and push the Department to come to a final 
decision on this?
    Secretary Austin. Certainly, Senator, you have my 
commitment that I will look into the delays. You know, what I 
have required the team to do is to make sure that we have a 
process that is transparent and also that avoids outside 
influence and to make sure that we are aboveboard. But I will 
certainly look into it and get a brief back to you on specific 
delays that we have encountered.
    Senator Kelly. Well, thank you. Thank you, General, because 
3 years is just, it is too long, and this is, as General Milley 
pointed out, is just as important if we wind up in a conflict 
in the Western Pacific. So, thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    General Milley, last year, Congress authorized multi-year 
procurement contracts as a way to boost our Nation's dwindling 
supply of munitions and to purchase additional systems in 
support of Ukraine, and this has had a meaningful impact on a 
lot of Arizona businesses who produce some of these critical 
munitions. Multi-Year procurement can save the Government a lot 
of money. It can save it a lot of money over the long run and 
provide much needed stability for manufacturing business, while 
also ensuring that our military and our key partners and allies 
have the munitions that they need.
    General Milley, can you please, in the time I have 
remaining, just talk about the impact that multi-year 
procurement has had so far in securing weapons, both for the 
United States but also for Ukraine. Has this been beneficial? 
And do you think that the munitions that Congress authorized 
for multi-year procurement is enough, or should we have more 
products being considered for multi-years?
    Chairman Reed. You have 19 seconds.
    General Milley. So first, multi-year contracts are 
essential, and passing a budget on time with no continuing 
resolution is essential to ensure we have multi-year contracts. 
So, those two things are linked, and I cannot emphasize that 
enough. That is important, and it has had a big impact, 
positive impact on Ukraine, and it will help to replenish our 
stocks as well.
    Senator Kelly. Do you think we should expand it to some 
other products?
    General Milley. I do.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. I would ask, I 
have been very tolerant of the time, but I ask people to stay 
within 5 minutes. We are running quite late. Senator Scott, 
please. Thank you.
    Senator Scott. Only for Senator Rosen and me. Only for us 
two. Thank you. Thank you for--thank you guys for your service. 
Thank you for all the men and women that serve. On the 
Personnel Subcommittee for Armed Services, Senator Warren and I 
had a presentation on how bad we are doing on recruiting.
    Our recruiting numbers are pretty pathetic right now. It 
seems like, I remember I joined in 18 and joined the Navy. We 
knew who our enemies were, we knew what the military's role was 
and I think unfortunate.
    A lot of Americans are a little concerned. There is recent 
polling data from the Reagan Institute and the National 
Independent Panel on Military Service and Readiness, showing us 
that many Americans and majority of Active Duty servicemembers 
find the military to be politicized and focused on what divides 
us instead of what unites us.
    If that is true, what can you do and what are you doing to 
make sure, because I think Senator Sullivan was bringing up the 
fact that we shouldn't have marines in pictures like that and 
with speeches.
    What are you doing to make sure our military is not 
perceived to be a political arm of whoever, whoever the 
President is, doesn't matter whether the Republican or 
Democrat.
    Secretary Austin. Well, first of all, I would just do two 
things. First, in terms of the satisfaction of the troops that 
are in the ranks and how we view ourselves. Senator, I would 
just point to the fact that we have the highest reenlistment 
rates probably that we have seen in several decades.
    What that means is that people are satisfied with the 
opportunities they are provided and with the development that 
they are receiving. The second thing is with respect to 
recruiting, as you know, there are a number of things that have 
combined to create headwinds, and they include the lowest 
jobless rate that we have seen in many, many years. Also, 2 
years of COVID, and, you know, Senator, without recruiters not 
having access to high schools and centers of influence for 2 
years will have a profound impact on our ability to recruit. 
Our leadership in the services is doing the right thing. I 
mean, our Secretaries, our Chiefs are doing the right things.
    They are they are investing, beginning to invest the right 
moneys in advertising and encouraging their recruiters to be in 
the right spaces. They are hiring the right people to be 
recruiters, and I used to be a recruiter, so I am not guessing 
at what this takes. I know how hard this is and what you need 
to do to be successful. They are beginning to do those things 
again, and I think we will see this--we will see the trends 
move in a different direction.
    Senator Scott. So, the next year, we will have good 
numbers?
    Secretary Austin. Next year, you will have better numbers. 
We will be where we want to be probably the year after that. It 
took 2 years to get us to where we are because of COVID. It 
will take a little bit longer to get to get turned around.
    General Milley. Senator, I have had many thanks and 
conversation with all the chiefs on this whole topic. Yes, we 
have a recruiting challenge, no question about it. I do think 
there is a cause-and-effect link to COVID and I am not blaming 
that. But we do know that recruiting numbers are directly 
linked to contact time.
    Because kids have been in high schools and we haven't had 
the recruiters in high schools, contact time is very, very low. 
So, consequently, you have much lower recruiting numbers as one 
key factor. Another key factor is just the familiarity with the 
American citizenry, with their military.
    Now we are at an all-time high, 50 year high of re-
enlistment, which is incredible, actually. That indicates that 
the people in the military are satisfied with what they are 
doing every day.
    So that is an all-time 50 year high. But 80 percent, 70 to 
80 percent in that range, depending on the service, of our 
folks in uniform are in uniform who have a family member in 
uniform, either a father, mother, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, 
grandfather, grandmother, something along those lines.
    So, it is familiarity with the military that makes a 
difference, I think, in terms of recruiting, and that is what 
we got to get out. We have to get out more into the society. We 
got to make sure we increase our contact time significantly.
    On the politicization piece, look it, I have tried from day 
one to make sure that we have an apolitical, nonpartisan U.S. 
Military. If we have anything other than that, that is a danger 
to the Republic.
    We must remain a nonpartisan, apolitical military that is 
fundamental to this country and that is what I am committed to. 
That is what all the generals are committed to, and that is 
what you have right now, and that is what we want to continue 
to keep.
    Senator Scott. General Milley, I like your answer to 
Senator Sullivan on you being able to compete against China. Do 
you actually believe that all the countries you named will show 
up if China invades Taiwan?
    General Milley. I think in different ways, yes. Perhaps not 
all with combat forces and that sort of thing. I think allies 
operate differently. Every country operates in its own 
strategic interest at the moment in time. But I do know that we 
have an incredible network of allies and friends around the 
world.
    In the Pacific, we have a series of bilateral defense 
treaties that are ratified by the Senate, and those are 
ironclad, you know, with the Republic of Korea, Japan, 
Philippines, Thailand, Australia. These are treaties that we 
are committed to fight on their behalf sort of thing. So, I 
think we have a network of allies and partners that gives us a 
strategic advantage over China or Russia, for that matter. If 
you look at who China's friends are, it is not very many.
    They are operating in a purely transactional way around the 
world. They are trying to garner as many natural resources as 
they can from around the world. But there is not a lot of 
people who are ``friends'' with China.
    There are many, many countries that are very tight, very 
close with the United States, and that is a great strength of 
ours, and I do think they would be there in time of need.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Thank you very 
much. Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Mr. Chairman. I really 
appreciate holding this hearing. I want to thank each of the 
witnesses today for testifying for your service to the country.
    General Milley, I know this is going to be your last time 
before the Committee, and I want to thank you for your decades 
of distinguished service leading the brave men and women of our 
Armed Forces and really navigating so many challenges 
worldwide. We all appreciate your service.
    So, we are going to--I am going to talk a little bit about 
combating Iranian aggression, because attacks on the United 
States installations and servicemembers by Iran's terrorist 
proxies are increasing, particularly by rocket and drone 
attack.
    The Pentagon estimates that hundreds of American troops 
have been killed by Iranian backed militias, including, as we 
have discussed already today, a deadly attack last week on a 
United States base in Syria.
    There are families across the country without their loved 
ones as a direct result of Iranian aggression. I can't repeat 
that enough, a direct result of Iranian aggression. Yet Iran's 
regime has never been held accountable for orchestrating 
attacks against Americans. So, Secretary Austin, I appreciate 
that in this latest instance, last week, the United States 
responded with airstrikes against individuals connected with 
the IRGC.
    But just as you told my colleague, Senator Cotton, Senator 
Budd, we know there have been about 83 such attacks by Iranian 
proxies on United States forces in Syria in the past 2 years 
alone. We have only retaliated four times.
    So why has the United States responded so infrequently, 
particularly when these militias are most pervasive threat, the 
most pervasive threat to U.S. and coalition forces in the 
region?
    Secretary Austin. Well, first of all, as was stated 
earlier, our troops have the ability to certainly protect 
themselves, and there have been responses, local responses to 
certain types of activity in those--our troops always have the 
ability to do that. In terms of major responses, strikes, you 
are right, there has only been four of those.
    At the three tours I spent in Iraq I can tell you that me 
and my troops received a lot of attacks from Iran. But when we 
respond, we want to make sure that, Iranian backed militias, we 
want to make sure that that we are going after the element that 
is responsible for whatever that activity is. So, it takes a 
little time to develop attribution.
    Then we want to make sure that we are holding the right 
element accountable, and we are doing everything that we can to 
protect our troops, and so, all of those things go into our 
consideration when we plan a response option.
    Senator Rosen. Well, I have two questions. One for you, 
General Milley, another one for you, Secretary Austin. So, the 
first one is for General Milley to followup. What can we do 
proactively to counter these militias before they injure and 
kill American servicemembers? Then, Secretary Austin, can you 
tell us, do our Commanders who I know want to do more, have the 
necessary authorities to target Iran's proxies other than the 
ability for self-defense? So, General Milley, we will start 
with you.
    General Milley. In terms of proactive measures, what we are 
looking at is force protection in all of the various camps and 
outposts in the Central Command area of operations, 
specifically in Iraq and Syria, where these attacks occur. They 
have, we think, adequate force protection in terms of the kind 
of rocket and missile defenses.
    They are able to, in fact--forward responses is probably an 
understatement because we end up shooting down a lot of these 
incoming UAVs, for example. If a rocket or a 107 rocket or 
something like that is going to miss the compound by 2 or 3 or 
4 or 5 kilometers, that is a significant amount.
    Really what we owe you is some better numbers actually on 
attacks that I would categorize as actual attacks on the 
compound, and missing a compound by 2 or 3 kilometers, that may 
or may not--we don't know what that was necessarily. So, we owe 
you some better numbers.
    But to get to your point about proactively, we have to work 
closely with the Iraqi Government for those Shiite militia 
groups that are inside Iraq. We have to continue to work with 
our partners in the region for the attacks that are occurring 
in Syria. So, working with our indigenous allies and partners 
is key, and then also putting these groups on notice, the 
various Shiite militia groups who know who they are, letting 
them know that we will respond affirmatively and forcefully if 
they attack our troops.
    We have done that. There are some of these groups that are 
much more aggressive than others, and we have actually in the 
past done some things to those groups that are not necessarily 
on the front page of the paper.
    There are activities that are occurring that do act as a 
proactive measure. The last thing I would say with respect to 
Iran. Messaging Iran is critically important. The Iranian 
Government is a complex, large organization, and the supreme 
leader may or may not be making every single decision.
    We do know that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard force and 
specifically their Quds force, which is designated a terrorist 
organization, that group there is what we need to be targeting 
and targeting them very harshly over time, and that is exactly 
what we plan on doing.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I know my time is up. But 
Secretary Austin, just asked if we have the necessary 
authorities, quickly.
    Secretary Austin. I think we do, Senator, and this is 
something that we need to continue to review as we go forward. 
We certainly have the right to self-defense. We have 
authorities under the 2001 AUMF, and that enables us to do what 
we need to do to in or counter ISIS efforts.
    But again, as we go forward, it is always good to look at 
the authorities and make sure that we evolve them if that is 
required. You have my commitment to work with leadership and 
with you to continue to do that.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. The Committee will 
stand in recess until 12:55 p.m., and we will reconvene in 
closed session in SVC-217. Thank you, gentlemen.
    [Whereupon, at 12:38 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
                       non-deployability policies
    1. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, it came to my attention during 
visits to the Mid-Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center following the 
suicides of four sailors that a contributing factor to the stressors at 
the command was a manning policy that allows for a 60 percent increase 
in the assignment of personnel (30 percent for limited duty and 30 
percent for pregnancy/post-partum) with no additional resources to 
support a population that requires extra care and attention. What is 
the Department of Defense's (``Department'') position on the assignment 
of temporarily non-deployable servicemembers and ensuring that there 
are the proper policies and resources in place to support their 
rehabilitation and reintegration?
    Secretary Austin. One life lost to suicide is too many. That is why 
I am committed to addressing mental health issues and suicide in the 
Force. In May, I directed the Department to take critical, immediate 
actions informed by the work of the Suicide Prevention and Response 
Independent Review Committee that I stood up in 2022, to increase 
access to behavioral and mental health and servicemember wellness.
    Specific to temporarily non-deployable servicemembers, the 
Department provides broad latitude to the Secretaries of the Military 
Departments to consider all aspects of a member's ability to serve, for 
retention and assignment purposes. The Department does not normally 
restrict the assignment of servicemembers who are temporarily non-
deployable for a medical condition, except for pregnant servicemembers 
beyond 36 weeks of gestation, where there is a medical travel 
restriction for servicemembers or the servicemember's spouse. The 
Department is committed to, and has a vested interest in, aiding 
servicemembers to address and remedy conditions that result in a non-
deployable status, and it is important that servicemembers maintain 
continuity of care.
                  pre-positioned war reserve materiel
    2. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin and General Milley, what is your 
assessment of the Department's long-term pre-positioned war reserve 
materiel requirements, such as those associated with the National 
Defense Sustainment and Logistics Review?
    Secretary Austin. Maintaining effective prepositioned equipment and 
war reserve materiel requirements is critical to our ability to project 
power around the world, respond to global contingencies, and execute 
war plans. Our reinforcement of NATO's eastern flank following Russia's 
February 2022 invasion of Ukraine demonstrated the value of 
prepositioned equipment. DOD forces rapidly deployed from the United 
States, drew prepositioned armored brigade combat team equipment, and 
built battle-ready formations with significant combat power to deter 
aggression against NATO. Moving forward, we are pursuing a range of 
investments to replenish and improve our prepositioned equipment in 
Europe as we also add new prepositioned capabilities--including long-
range fires and logistics--in the Indo-Pacific region. These 
investments are key to maintaining our deterrent posture and 
warfighting advantages.
    General Milley. Prepositioned War Reserve Material (PWRM) is 
strategically located to facilitate a timely response in support of 
Combatant Commander requirements during the initial phases of an 
operation and provide a quick response across a range of military 
operations.
    The services made instrumental investments and must continue to 
grow PWRM capability and capacity. There will likely be some challenges 
in sufficient storage space, storage locations, perishable assets 
material degradations and an aging fleet of prepositioning ships.
    Services will have to continue to prioritize resources and mitigate 
some risk derived from insufficient funding through the use of 
retrograde equipment, sourcing requirements from other Combatant 
Commands, and/or utilizing theater transportation from Active 
components.
                          deployability rates
    3. Senator Kaine. General Milley, during your opening statement you 
said that operational readiness rates are higher now than they've been 
in many years and that currently, 60 percent of the active force could 
deploy to combat in less than 30 days and 10 percent could deploy in 
less than 96 hours. How are these readiness rates determined and could 
you provide additional data, especially related to strategic lift 
capabilities, to support these figures?
    General Milley. Determining operational readiness rates is governed 
by DOD and Joint Staff policies: DODD/DODI 7730-series and CJCSI 
3401.02B--Force Readiness Reporting. These documents detail the 
requirements for all operational units to periodically report resource 
category levels (C-levels), as well as unit capability assessments for 
designed and assigned missions as informed by Mission Essential Task 
(MET) assessments. The C-levels reflect the status of the unit's 
resources (personnel, equipment/supplies, and training) measured 
against the resources required to undertake the wartime missions for 
which the unit is organized and designed. The operational readiness 
rates specifically for the strategic lift capabilities (all components) 
are extremely similar to those of the active force. Additional 
readiness data is available at the classified level.
                         hypersonics technology
    4. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, the Nation's current capability 
for developing and testing hypersonic technology is slow and expensive, 
resulting in our hypersonic technology maturity being behind the 
current, pacing threat. To address this gap, the Multi-Service Advanced 
Capability Hypersonics Test Bed (MACH-TB) program was created to 
increase the rate and reduce the cost of the Nation's hypersonic test 
flights. Last year, a team of several industry partners was named to 
leverage commercially available launch vehicles for hypersonic 
payloads. This will offer the Department of Defense (DOD) a national 
hypersonic testing capability that can be leveraged by a broad range of 
U.S. Military hypersonics programs, DOD research programs, industry 
partners, and academia stakeholders. Could you please explain the value 
of leveraging commercially available launch vehicles for hypersonic 
testing?
    Secretary Austin. We have made significant progress as a result of 
our hypersonic investments over the last 2 years. In the last year 
alone, we have performed 12 successful hypersonic flights tests, and we 
plan to conduct 20 hypersonic test flights this year. Our fiscal year 
2024 budget request also invests $11 billion to deliver a mix of 
hypersonic and long-range subsonic missiles.
    Use of commercial launch vehicles is one of the primary enablers 
for our hypersonic testing. Commercial launch vehicles can provide 
proven launch capabilities at reduced cost and complexity when compared 
to traditional DOD launch vehicle providers. Commercial launch 
providers will deliver turn-key launch services that increase 
accessibility and reliability of DOD hypersonic flight tests. Work with 
commercial launch vehicles can also help us develop and validate 
technologies prior to integrating them into advanced weapon systems. By 
using these turn-key solutions to our advantage, the Department can 
conduct hypersonic flight testing more frequently and more affordably.

    5. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, how do programs like MACH-TB 
program benefit the DOD and the U.S. national security strategy in the 
near term and long term?
    Secretary Austin. Our strategy relies on delivering the right mix 
of capabilities to support our warfighting concepts, which includes 
delivering the right mix of long-range fires, including both hypersonic 
and long-range subsonic missiles. In the near-term, MACH-TB enables 
rapid risk reduction for hypersonic prototypes, accelerating delivery 
of new capabilities to the Warfighter. In the long-term, MACH-TB allows 
an affordable and accessible approach to developing new technologies 
that will enable next generation hypersonic weapons.

    6. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, what is the importance and 
associated timing of full-scale hypersonics flight tests and the 
expansion of critical test infrastructure?
    Secretary Austin. We are in a global technology competition that 
will shape the future of warfare. This requires the Department to 
develop the right defensive and offensive systems to remain ahead of 
our adversaries. Deterrence today and tomorrow requires integrating 
capabilities into new operational concepts, and hypersonics are a 
logical and necessary addition to our mix of capabilities. As a result, 
we have made significant progress, performing 12 successful hypersonic 
flight tests in the past year. The fiscal year 2024 budget invests $11 
billion to deliver a mix of hypersonic and long-range subsonic 
missiles, and the Department plans to conduct 20 hypersonic test 
flights this year.
    Through the fiscal year 2024 budget request for $29.8 billion for 
missile defeat and defense, we are also pursuing a layered counter-
hypersonic defense strategy by increasing our investments in 
interceptors, and the Department has procured the glide-phase 
interceptor for an additional layer of defense. As we continue to 
further develop these capabilities, the Department will work closely 
with the defense industrial base to ensure that they can produce the 
right mix of munitions the joint force needs today and in the future.

    7. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, how can we ensure that the DOD, 
industry partners, and academia stakeholders work together on 
requirements definition and program execution of MACH-TB and other 
programs to further the Nation's hypersonics capabilities?
    Secretary Austin. Our hypersonics test bed, also known by the 
acronym MACH-TB, has established a working group composed of 
stakeholders from DOD, industry, and academia. This working group meets 
quarterly and is structured to identify hypersonic experiment 
requirements, allocate experiments to available flight tests, and 
develop an execution plan for the flight test campaign.
    Bringing together the right stakeholders from the Department, 
industry, and academia will help ensure our hypersonic capabilities 
continue to advance at the pace and scale necessary to maintain 
deterrence and, if necessary, fight to win.
                               recruiting
    8. Senator Kaine. Secretary Austin, how have school restrictions on 
the release of Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) 
scores (Option 8) affected recruiting in the past 10 years?
    Secretary Austin. We are working every day to recruit America's 
best talent, and the Department does not have any data to indicate that 
school restrictions on the release of test scores have negatively 
impacted recruiting in the past 10 years. Rather, we have been facing 
multiple years of headwinds. Notably, the pandemic created significant 
challenges, keeping recruiters out of schools and communities for more 
than 2 years. Also, a historically strong economy and tight job market 
are creating fierce competition for talent. We must address these 
headwinds and connect with young people, their families, and community 
leaders to show the value of public service, and the Military 
Departments are working hard to do just that.
                               __________
               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
    intelligence surveillance, and, reconnaissance (isr) support to 
                           combatant commands
    9. Senator King. Secretary Austin, your statement submitted to the 
Committee does not address your title 10 obligation to serve as the 
single lead agency of the Federal Government for the detection and 
monitoring of aerial and maritime transit of illegal drugs into the 
United States. The Northern Command (NORTHCOM) and Southern Command 
(SOUTHCOM) Commanders testified last week that they need more ISR and 
domain awareness support and assets, yet these are listed on their 
unfunded priorities list--not in their base budget. Why are the `small' 
amount of domain awareness and ISR assets--so vital for the Homeland 
and today's threat--NOT in your base budget?
    Secretary Austin. Our strategy drives our budget, and we are 
focused on ensuring the right mix of capabilities to meet its 
objectives. The Department is acutely aware of the need to enhance 
persistent surveillance of the aerial and maritime approaches to North 
America. I have been working closely with Combatant Commanders and the 
Military Services to understand and advocate for resources necessary to 
protect our Nation against an increasingly wide range of threats.
    Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance remains a priority 
for the department, and we will continue to ensure we have significant 
ISR capability. However, we also must ensure that we have the 
flexibility and agility to outpace our competitors in the future. This 
is about having the right mix of capabilities, and it requires getting 
the capability to process, exploit, and disseminate the ISR we collect. 
Ultimately, our budget is designed to implement the 2022 National 
Defense Strategy and we will continue to invest in the right mix of 
capabilities today and into the future.

    10. Senator King. Secretary Austin, who oversees the counterdrug 
and counter-transnational criminal organization mission for the 
Department? Does this same person also oversee and provide 
recommendations for ISR investments to fulfill your title 10 
obligations to help curb the flow of illegal drugs into the Homeland?
    Secretary Austin. I oversee policy and operations for all of DOD. 
The Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (USD(P)) approves DOD 
counterdrug and counter-transnational organized crime strategy, policy, 
and plans consistent with national strategies and DOD strategy, 
policies, and objectives. Under the authority, direction, and control 
of the USD(P), the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special 
Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict (ASD SO/LIC) oversees and 
approves DOD efforts for the detection and monitoring of suspected 
illicit drug aerial, maritime, and surface traffic bound for the United 
States.
    The Combatant Commanders are responsible for counterdrug operations 
in their respective areas of responsibility, including requesting 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) assets using the 
Global Force Management process. The USD(P) and ASD SO/LIC participate 
in this process and provide recommendations to me on the allocation of 
ISR assets globally. When those assets are unavailable due to higher 
priority missions, we pursue government-owned/contractor-operated 
aircraft, contract aircraft, and periodic deployments of DOD aircraft 
as part of a training mission. Using this approach, we have increased 
the number of flight hours by more than 2,000 hours since 2018 in 
support of the counterdrug mission.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
               maintaining our defense technological edge
    11. Senator Rosen. Secretary Austin, global competition for a 
skilled workforce, declining investments in research and development 
(R&D), the DOD contracting challenges, and the science, technology, 
engineering and mathematics (STEM) workforce gap are all impediments 
eroding our technological edge with our adversaries. Meanwhile, China 
is investing heavily in advanced technologies such as artificial 
intelligence, biotechnology, and quantum computing. That's why I am 
working to establish a public-private partnership pilot program to 
accelerate the scaling, production, and acquisition of advanced 
capabilities for national security by creating incentives for trusted 
investment in American small businesses working on innovative defense 
technology. How might a public-private partnership that catalyzes 
investment in advanced capabilities help maintain our technological 
edge, especially with regard to China?
    Secretary Austin. It is critical that we draw on all elements of 
national power to continue to outpace the PRC, including through 
public-private partnerships. The Department is focused on leveraging 
America's capacity for innovation to deliver cutting edge capability to 
the battlefield as fast as possible. That is why the fiscal year 2024 
budget invests $145 billion in RDT&E--the largest ever--and continues 
to build bridges with America's dynamic innovation ecosystem. This 
includes investments of $1.8 billion for artificial intelligence, $687 
million for the rapid defense experimentation reserve, and $115 million 
for DOD's new Office of Strategic Capital to drive American investment 
in critical technologies. Our capital markets give us an advantage over 
adversaries like the PRC, and we need to fully leverage those markets. 
The Office of Strategic Capital will allow us to drive private capital 
into the critical technologies our warfighters need most.
    Additionally, we are actively working to reverse the downward trend 
in small business prime contractors. The Department encourages use of 
other transaction authorities, which offer flexibility and drives 
innovation by inviting non-traditional companies to participate in the 
defense industrial base. Cooperation is critical to building the talent 
we need and DOD will continue to increase talent exchanges with 
industry to cross-train and grow talent in high-end technologies across 
the Department.
                          cyber surge capacity
    12. Senator Rosen. General Milley, our Nation faces unprecedented 
cyberattacks and a consistent shortage of cyber talent at DOD and other 
Federal agencies, which together pose a significant risk to our 
national security. To address these challenges, I am working to find 
solutions to provide the Department with qualified civilian personnel 
to support the Department's cyberspace operations and ensure we have 
the talent needed to defeat, deter, and respond to malicious cyber 
activity, especially at times of greatest need. How might non-
traditional cyber reserve models be a possible pathway to recruit 
personnel who might not otherwise choose to join the active or reserve 
components, or who might lack the physical eligibility, but possess 
valuable cyber skills?
    General Milley. Deputy Secretary of Defense Dr. Kathleen Hicks 
signed the 2023-2027 DOD Cyber Workforce (CWF) Strategy, which sets the 
foundation for how the Department will foster a cyber workforce capable 
of executing the Department's complex and varied cyber missions. The 
strategy enables the Department to prioritize retaining highly skilled 
cyber talent by closing workforce development gaps.
    Through the CWF Strategy, the DOD CIO ensures alignment with the 
Joint Staff, United States Cyberspace Command, and Services to focus 
Department efforts on cyber-related human capital initiatives in 
support of the 2022 National Defense Strategy. Additionally, a 
forthcoming Cyber Workforce Strategy Implementation Plan provides a 
list of initiatives that outline how the Department will pursue a 
comprehensive approach to overcome cyber talent shortages.
    One of the initiatives is to establish mechanisms for surge 
capability for mission needs. The Department of Defense has a well-
established group of Reservists and National Guardsmen that are highly 
trained and positioned to fill this gap. Even with these personnel the 
Department requires more surge cyber capability and the Department is 
exploring expanding the scope beyond traditional service and looking at 
all possibilities to fill this need.
    One non-traditional pathway for creating more surge capability is a 
USCYBERCOM initiative to create a Cyber Alumni Program. Instead of the 
traditional Reserve model, it allows the mission owner to maintain a 
connection with Service Members and Civilians that have separated from 
the Joint Force. Personnel that participate in this program are 
eligible to retain their security clearance and gain access to 
additional professional development opportunities. This initiative 
gives the mission owner access to a searchable Alumni data base of 
skilled professionals that may be eligible to surge when the time comes 
to respond to an increase in cyber activity.
                commuting assistance for servicemembers
    13. Senator Rosen. Secretary McCord, airmen stationed at Creech Air 
Force Base and servicemembers stationed at many rural or remote 
installations have to commute many miles to base from where they live. 
Creech has very limited housing nearby, so the vast majority of airmen 
live in Las Vegas, which is about 45 miles away. It's an even longer 
commute for those who have to drop off their kids at the child 
development center or utilize other services at Nellis Air Force Base, 
which is on the opposite end of town. Does DOD have the existing 
authorities to provide these servicemembers with a gas stipend or 
something similar to make their commute less expensive as they deal 
with rising costs or is this something the services would need help 
from Congress to address?
    Secretary McCord. In general, outside of congressionally approved 
programs like the Mass Transit Benefit Program [5 U.S.C. Sec.  7905.], 
commuting costs are considered a personal expense of the servicemember.
    The Department also notes that a gas stipend, as suggested in the 
question, would be considered taxable income for members under the 
Internal Revenue Code. At this time, the Department has no authority to 
provide reimbursement for single-occupant motor vehicles used for daily 
commuting from servicemembers' domicile to their assigned duty 
stations.
    The Department does, however, have a program in place that Services 
can use to incentivize hard-to-fill assignments (37 U.S.C. Sec. 352), 
and a program to account for the cost of living in high-cost areas (37 
U.S.C. Sec.  403b). Currently, Creech Air Force Base does not qualify 
for either of these programs.
                    middle east security cooperation
    14. Senator Rosen. General Milley, the Deterring Enemy Forces and 
Enabling National Defenses (DEFEND) Act--which Senator Ernst and I 
introduced last year and which was included in the Fiscal Year 2023 
National Defense Authorization Act (FY23 NDAA)--advances an integrated 
air and missile defense architecture between the United States, Israel, 
and Arab states to protect against Iranian aggression in the Middle 
East. I appreciate the discussions you and I have had about this issue. 
Can you provide an update on Central Command's (CENTCOM) efforts to 
develop an integrated air and missile defense architecture in the 
Middle East, and to promote Israel's integration into regional 
partnerships?
    General Milley. USCENTCOM is working diligently with allies and 
partners across the Middle East to design, plan, and resource an 
integrated air and missile defense architecture. Over the past 18 
months, USCENTCOM has started multiple efforts with the interagency and 
regional partners to forge a multi-lateral construct to counter aerial 
threats in the Middle East. These efforts include combined training 
exercises, FMS/FMF cases, and liaison officer exchanges, often at the 
multilateral level. USCENTCOM supports security-related engagement 
between Israel and other nations in the region inherent in the Abraham 
Accords and diplomatic initiatives such as the Negev Forum.
    USCENTCOM's efforts to develop an overarching security architecture 
now includes Israel. USCENTCOM and Israel are planning and conducting 
joint training events that significantly increase the interoperability 
of United States and Israeli military forces. Notably, in January 2023, 
United States and Israeli forces conducted EXERCISE JUNIPER OAK. This 
exercise included a large-scale live fire event with over 140 aircraft, 
12 naval vessels, High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems, and Multiple 
Launch Rocket Systems.
                  potential ukrainian counteroffensive
    15. Senator Rosen. General Milley, Russia committed significant 
manpower and equipment to launch offensives in Ukraine this winter. 
Their gains have been limited, and their losses have been significant. 
Nonetheless, the defense of these towns has not come without costs to 
Ukraine. Are we providing the Ukrainian Armed Forces with the necessary 
capabilities and quantities to successfully reclaim territory in a 
coming counteroffensive and if not, what is required that they could 
immediately employ to reclaim their sovereign territory from Russian 
forces?
    General Milley. The United States is fully committed to ensuring 
Ukraine has the capabilities it needs for a successful 
counteroffensive. Along with our allies, we have consulted with 
Ukrainian leaders as they have planned their military operations to 
resist Russia's illegal full-scale attack on their sovereign territory.
    We have trained Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF), focusing on: basic 
individual combat tasks, collective combined arms maneuver tasks, and 
proficiency on donated weapons systems and equipment.
    We are providing Ukraine arms and equipment to support both 
upcoming operations to liberate territory from Russian occupation and 
to maintain the defense of territory from further Russian advances. 
United States and ally assistance has included supply of critical 
weapons systems and ammunition: Armored ground vehicles, air defense 
weapons; unmanned aerial vehicles; Ammunition for High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS); Tube-Launched, Optically Tracked, 
Wire-Guided (TOW) missiles; Artillery ammunition, (including precision-
guided rounds); demolition munitions and obstacle clearing equipment; 
High-speed Anti-radiation missiles (HARMs); other precision aerial 
munitions; mortar systems and ammunition; AT-4 anti-armor weapon 
systems; anti-tank mines; Claymore anti-personnel munitions; grenade 
launchers, small arms and associated ammunition.

    16. Senator Rosen. General Milley, what is your assessment of how 
short-range drones and one-way attack anti-tank munitions are being 
used in this conflict and their effectiveness given the electronic 
environment?
    General Milley. The utilization of short-range drones follows the 
historical airpower progression from primarily intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance purposes to a relatively low-cost 
offensive capability. The small drones provide increased ability to 
observe and target ground forces, while providing greater stand-off for 
Ukrainian forces, while also shortening the targeting process.
    Effectiveness depends not just on the uncrewed aerial system (UAS) 
itself but also on the operator's proficiency in target recognition and 
knowing what munition is most effective against what target. Munition 
effectiveness varies on target type (e.g., tank, infantry fighting 
vehicle, or troop formation).
    One-way attack munitions have shortened the targeting cycle and 
enabled the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF) to attack specific targets 
without human input after munition launch. \1\ This application of UAS 
technology has the twofold effect of destroying Russian fielded 
equipment and forces, and demoralizing Russian troops.
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    \1\ Information provided by Joint Counter UAS Office (JCO)
    \2\ ``The Ukraine/Russia Conflic: Monthly Threat Report from March 
2023'' National Ground Intelligence Center, 10 April 2023

    17. Senator Rosen. General Milley, what lessons have we learned 
about these kinds of weapons for our own force and defense industrial 
base?
    General Milley. We have learned that drones and one-way attack 
(OWA) UAS strikes are effective, but not decisive in themselves. We 
observed Russia implement defense mechanisms, such as fencing and use 
of alternative materials that degraded the effectiveness of UAS 
munitions and OWA strikes. UAS support targeting efforts and help to 
shape force protection, but they are vulnerable to electronic warfare. 
We must enhance resiliency of UAS systems, increase electronic 
protection measures to make them more survivable in highly contested 
environment, while remaining cognizant of their relatively short 
lifespan and high attrition. No single materiel or non-materiel enabler 
can tip the scales one way or the other. It is the cumulative effect of 
these capabilities, ably employed.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                            f-16s to ukraine
    18. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin, I organized a letter to you 
with a bi-partisan group of 8 Senate colleagues, requesting that you 
take a hard look at what it would take to provide F-16 fighter jets to 
Ukraine. I would like to thank you for your prompt response to this 
letter and the analysis your team provided. You highlighted that F-16s 
are currently Ukraine's seventh priority, and that it would take 12-18 
months to train pilots, in addition to a significant length of time to 
deliver jets. I understand this, however we cannot be short-sighted 
when it comes to Russia. It is imperative that the Russians don't win 
this war-or any other war they decide to start. Providing modern 
fighters to Ukraine needs to be part of a long-term European deterrence 
strategy against Russia. Please explain the long-term strategy 
regarding providing military equipment and fighter jets to Ukraine.
    Secretary Austin. The United States, in partnership with allies and 
partners, is focused on building Ukraine's capabilities to defend its 
territory for both the near and long term. We are in constant contact 
with Ukraine's military leadership regarding their evolving capability 
requirements. Our focus has been ground-based air defense capabilities 
to protect Ukraine's people and critical infrastructure, artillery, and 
armored vehicles. We are working with allies and partners to lay the 
groundwork for Ukraine to be prepared in the months and years ahead to 
utilize fourth-generation fighter capability, which we see as an 
important element of Ukraine's future force to deter and defeat Russian 
aggression in the longer term. This work begins with training, but will 
also include maintenance and sustainment planning.
    General Milley. Our primary focus remains providing UKR with the 
capabilities it needs to defend its territory. No single materiel or 
non-materiel enabler can tip the scales one way or the other. It is the 
cumulative effect of these contributions, ably employed, that will put 
Ukraine in a position of relative advantage.
    Currently, air defense is a critical concern for Ukraine and its 
people as Russia targets critical national infrastructure. Delivering 
effective fires is also a critical concern'to enable the Ukrainian 
Armed Forces to conduct combined arms maneuver. As part of a 
comprehensive approach, western multi-role fighter aircraft can 
contribute to both air defense and delivering fires. We, along with our 
allies, are exploring options to ensure the most impactful equipment 
and capabilities are making it to Ukraine at the right time.

    19. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin, what did DOD learn from the 
assessment of Ukrainian pilots at Morris Air National Guard Base (ANGB) 
earlier this month?
    Secretary Austin. The Ukrainian military has inspired the world by 
fighting bravely and effectively against the further invasion of their 
sovereign country by Russia. The two Ukrainian pilots who traveled to 
Tucson participated in a pilot familiarization event with the United 
States Air Force. The familiarization event was part of our routine 
military-to-military dialog designed to build mutual understanding of 
how each Air Force operates, not an assessment or a training event. We 
continue to support Ukraine through the provision of capability and 
weapons and platform training, and in coordination with our allies and 
partners.

    20. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin, how did that assessment inform 
our analysis on providing aircraft in the short term?
    Secretary Austin. The equipment we provide to Ukraine is based on a 
collective prioritization, driven by Ukraine's input, of the 
capabilities required to be successful on the battlefield, while 
balancing United States readiness requirements, training, 
sustainability, and other factors. The familiarization event was not an 
assessment. Rather, it was part of an existing program to build mutual 
understanding of how each Air Force operates.

    21. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin and General Milley, did it 
inform other aspects of United States support to Ukraine, e.g. planning 
support?
    Secretary Austin. As stated, the pilot familiarization event was 
part of our routine military-to-military dialog to build mutual 
understanding of how each Air Force operates.
    General Milley. With an assessment pool of only 2 Ukrainians it's 
difficult to generalize the assessment to inform broader planning 
support. However, the after-action report identifies that prior to 
future highly technical training of this caliber the Ukrainians would 
require formal English training.

    22. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin. how does it inform our plans 
to potentially support F-16s or other fighter jets in the long-term?
    Secretary Austin. For now, we remain focused on providing what is 
most effective and what is most urgently needed for the counter-
offensive, and on supporting training the Ukrainian military. Our 
priorities are ground-based air defense capabilities to protect 
Ukraine's people and critical infrastructure, artillery, and armored 
vehicles. We are engaging our allies and partners to lay the groundwork 
for Ukraine to be prepared in the months and years ahead to utilize 
fourth-generation fighter capability. Fourth-generation aircraft will 
be an important element of Ukraine's ability to deter and defeat 
Russian aggression in the longer term. Training, sustainment, and 
maintenance planning is an important first step.

    23. Senator Kelly. Secretary Austin and General Milley, how has the 
prolonged conflict in Ukraine changed the calculus with regard to what 
military equipment we are willing to provide our partners and allies 
over the course of the current conflict (beyond the spring if the 
conflict continues)?
    Secretary Austin. We have provided more than $32 billion of 
security assistance to Ukraine, focusing on the capabilities that are 
most urgently needed for success on the battlefield. The Ukrainian 
military has used this assistance to inflict tremendous damage on 
Putin's forces. Many of the same capabilities that are having the 
greatest effect in Ukraine, including air defense systems, portable 
anti-tank weapons, and cannon and rocket artillery, are also in high 
demand from other allies and partners globally.
    We are committed to ensuring that the Department of Defense can 
support the defense needs of both the United States and our partners, 
and with the support of Congress we have invested nearly $3 billion to 
support the expansion of the U.S. industrial base to increase critical 
manufacturing capacity for these key systems and weapons.
    Decisions to provide specific systems to all partners and allies 
are made in a comprehensive and deliberate manner by the Department and 
our interagency colleagues, taking into account the need to balance the 
operational requirements of our partners with the urgency of 
maintaining U.S. readiness and protecting critical U.S. technologies. 
These decisionmaking processes consider a wide range of factors, 
including our partner's capacity to absorb the system into their 
inventory and support it through its lifecycle, the partner's ability 
to train on the system to employ it safely and effectively, and the 
partner's ability and willingness to maintain accountability and 
protection for the system.
    General Milley. The conflict in Ukraine has given the United States 
Military greater insight into the requirements to conduct large-scale 
combat operations. Taking into consideration worldwide inventory, and 
the ability of the U.S. and global defense industrial base to produce 
and replenish needed capacity, the U.S. must always balance requests 
from allies and Partners against meeting our own requirements. There 
are certain numbers of munitions and types of systems that we cannot 
provide our allies and partners because it creates unacceptable risk to 
our ability to defend the Homeland, and meet operational and 
contingency requirements elsewhere.
                         multi-year procurement
    24. Senator Kelly. General Milley, you indicated that it would be 
prudent to consider expanding this authorization to additional 
munitions. Please provide further details about what specific munitions 
should be authorized for MYP, and the impact this would have on United 
States weapons supply and in support for Ukraine.
    General Milley. We thank Congress for the multi-year procurement 
and other flexible acquisition authorities granted in recent 
legislation. MYP authorities will improve taxpayer buying power, 
bolster inventory, and provide a more stable and predictable demand 
signal to industry.
    The Department is constantly evaluating its munitions inventories 
and munitions procurement strategies. Our President's Budget 2024 
request includes plans to pursue MYP for five munitions and will 
continue to identify additional opportunities to leverage existing MYP 
authorities, and recommend additional authorities, where it makes sense 
and provides value to the Government.

    25. Senator Kelly. General Milley, please explain how MYP affects 
the Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) area of responsibility (AOR). How 
will this increase our supply of weapons in the AOR, are there any 
impacts or concerns regarding weapons storage in the AOR, and what 
impact would all of these factors have in a potential China conflict?
    General Milley. MYP generates savings through the use of Economic 
Order Quantity (EOQ) financing to procure greater quantities of 
munitions using a buy-to-budget strategy. The greater quantities of 
munitions can be deployed to the INDOPACOM AOR to deter or, if 
necessary, defeat China.
    INDOPACOM supports MYP to acquire long-lead materials and 
components to support the acquisition of critical munitions to enhance 
the U.S.' ability to prosecute the National Defense Strategy; 
USINDOPACOM is also addressing future in-theater munitions storage 
requirements in parallel with targeted MILCON projects, bilateral 
agreements, and the dispersal of critical munitions postured across the 
theater.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                        prc surveillance balloon
    26. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, thank you for your response 
to the questions that Senator Rubio and I sent on February 8 regarding 
the Chinese surveillance balloon. I have additional questions. Please 
answer them in an unclassified form, except where a classified response 
is necessary, and please submit all unclassified answers in an 
unclassified format. Since these questions are for the public record, I 
expect that all unclassified answers will not be classified as 
controlled unclassified information (CUI), which would limit its 
distribution. On February 6, you called me on an unclassified line to 
provide an update on the high-altitude balloon (HAB). At the time, you 
indicated that you were not personally aware of the HAB on January 29, 
while it was still over Alaska, because you were traveling in Asia. You 
also couldn't recall when you first learned of the HAB's existence. In 
your March 27 response to the letter that Senator Rubio and I sent on 
February 8, however, you write that you were first notified of the HAB 
on January 27, prior to it entering United States airspace. Can you 
please explain the difference between what you told me on February 6--
which was that you had not known for a few days because you were 
traveling in Asia--and what you wrote in your letter, which is that you 
knew about the HAB and were tracking it all along?
    Secretary Austin. I was first notified about the high-altitude 
balloon (HAB) by my senior military assistant on the evening of January 
27, 2023, prior to it entering U.S. airspace. I received daily updates 
from NORAD, USNORTHCOM, and other agencies. The HAB then re-entered 
U.S. airspace on January 31, 2023.

    27. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, General VanHerck told us last 
week that he would have been prepared to present options to shoot down 
the HAB while it was over Alaska. Your letter makes it clear that you 
never requested options to shoot down the HAB until it traversed Alaska 
and Canada, and then reentered the United States. Why?
    Secretary Austin. The NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander assessed that the 
balloon did not present a kinetic threat to North America. Working with 
the Canadian military, NORAD/NORTHCOM began immediately taking action 
and developing additional options to better characterize the incursion. 
NORAD continued to track the PRC HAB, ensuring the Department could 
protect sensitive sites against foreign collection. On January 29, 
2023, I departed for travel to the Republic of Korea and the 
Philippines. Also on January 29, 2023, the NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander 
advised me and Chairman Milley that he was looking at options to engage 
the balloon should that be directed. The balloon re-entered U.S. 
airspace on January 31. That evening, President Biden, through his 
national security Advisor, directed the military to immediately refine 
and present options to shoot down the PRC HAB. I, through Chairman 
Milley, asked for options to shoot the PRC HAB down. On February 1, 
2023, while in the Philippines, I convened a meeting with senior 
military officials to review options to take down the PRC HAB safely, 
while closely monitoring its path and intelligence-collection threat.

    28. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, does Northern Command (NORAD) 
currently have the ability to incorporate open source tracking of 
private and commercial balloons into the air defense picture?
    Secretary Austin. Yes. NORAD and USNORTHCOM also work closely with 
the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) when unknown, suspect air 
tracks appear on radar. Additionally, the FAA has prescribed rules 
governing the operation of ``unmanned free balloons'' in the United 
States in 14 CFR Part 101.

    29. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, following the public 
acknowledgment of the HAB, the Department of Defense said that it was 
aware of multiple previous Chinese surveillance balloons that had 
entered United States sovereign airspace. Who in the Department would 
have been responsible for developing options to counter balloons, in 
light of the Department's awareness of this threat and did that 
official or office develop those options? Why or why not?
    Secretary Austin. I cannot speak to how previous Administrations or 
previous Secretaries organized the Department's response to any 
balloons entering U.S. sovereign airspace. As the PRC HAB incident was 
unfolding, I received updates and advice from USNORTHCOM, NORAD, OSD 
Policy, and others. On January 29, 2023, the Commander of USNORTHCOM 
and NORAD advised me and Chairman Milley that that he was looking at 
options to engage the balloon should that be directed. Working with the 
Canadian military, NORAD and USNORTHCOM immediately began to develop 
options to better characterize the incursion. NORAD continued to track 
the PRC HAB, ensuring the Department could protect sensitive sites 
against any intelligence collection.

    30. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, prior to this case, did NORAD 
have courses of action (COAs) for addressing adversary operation of 
high-altitude, unmanned reconnaissance aircraft within the 12 nautical 
mile (NM) line, or over territory?
    Secretary Austin. The primary missions of NORAD include providing 
aerospace warning and aerospace control for North America, and NORAD 
supports USNORTHCOM in U.S.-only missions, including addressing high-
altitude unmanned aircraft surveillance threats to sensitive sites.
    The Department allocates forces in Alaska to support USNORTHCOM and 
NORAD responsibilities, and those forces provide aerial defense for 
North America. DOD supports homeland defense requirements in Alaska 
through coordination between the Air Force, USNORTHCOM, NORAD, and 
USINDOPACOM, to include forces permanently stationed in Alaska and a 
layered defense network within the Alaska Air Defense Identification 
Zone. This approach ensures DOD is able to support homeland defense 
requirements, Indo-Pacific campaigning, and warfighting.

    31. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, if so, were the HABs 
considered in light of the COAs?
    Secretary Austin. HABs have been considered in operational 
planning/COA development by the Department.

    32. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, if not, what is NORAD's 
future approach to any form of high-altitude reconnaissance that 
violates U.S. airspace?
    Secretary Austin. USNORTHCOM and USINDOPACOM are prepared to 
respond to future HABs that violate U.S. airspace.

    33. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, was a National Event 
Conference (NEC) held at any point for the HAB? Was one held for the 
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) that were engaged by NORTHCOM 
aircraft after the Chinese HAB?
    Secretary Austin. Upon the PRC HAB reentering U.S. airspace on 
January 31, 2023, President Biden, through his national security 
Advisor, directed the military to immediately refine and present 
options to shoot down the PRC HAB. On February 1, 2023, while in the 
Philippines, I convened a meeting with senior military officials to 
review options to take down the PRC HAB safely, while closely 
monitoring its path and intelligence collection threat. A similar 
course of action was taken with the three unidentified aerial objects 
that were ultimately shot down.

    34. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, some commercial HABs have 
altitude capabilities up to 100,000 feet. Can NORAD maintain tracking 
of any adversary airframes that might operate at that altitude?
    Secretary Austin. In coordination with other Combatant Commands, 
the Intelligence Community (IC), and mission partners, NORAD has the 
ability to maintain tracking of objects that might operate at 100,000 
feet altitude.

    35. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, at what point was weather 
modeling of the HAB's flight path first incorporated into the planning? 
When was a flight path over the contiguous U.S. first assessed?
    Secretary Austin. Weather modeling and flight path trajectory were 
considered throughout. It was between January 30 and 31 that the flight 
path trajectory indicated CONUS overflight.

    36. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, Under Secretary of Defense 
for Policy Colin Kahl led the Department's public response to the HAB, 
providing multiple off-the-record media briefings and briefings to 
Congress. What steps, if any, did Under Secretary Kahl take to notify 
his superiors and develop response options from January 27 to January 
31, while the balloon was in Alaskan and Canadian airspace?
    Secretary Austin. Under Secretary Kahl provided me with advice and 
counsel, alongside senior military leaders, to ensure that the 
Department was in the best position to respond to the PRC HAB in a 
responsible and timely manner. Once President Biden gave his 
authorization to the Department to take the PRC HAB down, the 
Department executed those orders.

    37. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, did Secretary Kahl make any 
recommendations pertaining to the HAB during that period, or direct his 
staff to develop options, and, if so, please explain?
    Secretary Austin. Under Secretary Kahl was among the senior DOD 
officials that advised me as the PRC HAB incident was unfolding. Thanks 
to this deliberate and coordinated approach, we were able to enhance 
our understanding of a sensitive PRC surveillance program.

    38. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, until Under Secretary Kahl 
informed the press that three Chinese surveillance balloons had entered 
United States airspace during the previous administration, that 
information had been classified. I am concerned that Under Secretary 
Kahl leaked this information for partisan ends, because he left out an 
important fact, which was that the Trump administration was not aware 
of those previous balloons at the time, and therefore had no 
opportunity to counter them. You wrote in your March 27 response to the 
letter that Senator Rubio and I sent on February 8, ``all information 
provided in unclassified settings had been appropriately cleared for 
release,'' but you provide no information to support that claim. When, 
and through what process, was the information regarding prior Chinese 
surveillance balloons cleared for release, and who cleared it for 
release? Please provide all documentation to substantiate your 
response.
    Secretary Austin. As I explained in my prior correspondence, I have 
no reason to believe that any member of the Department disclosed 
classified information at any point during the unclassified engagements 
with Congress or the public. All information provided in unclassified 
settings had been appropriately cleared for release. The United States 
downgraded and authorized for release a series of talking points in 
response to the overflight of the PRC HAB, including talking points 
regarding HAB flights over U.S. territory in prior years. The 
Department received the cleared points after they were downgraded and 
prior to any public statements about this topic. Any suggestions that a 
U.S. Government official, including Dr. Kahl, disclosed this 
information is inaccurate.
                     security assistance to ukraine
    39. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, in response to Senator 
Blumenthal's question concerning critical needs for Ukraine, you said 
that ``long-range fires'' are among the critical battlefield needs for 
the Ukrainian Armed Forces (UAF). Army Tactical Missile Systems 
(ATACMS) are important long-range fire capability, but the Biden 
Administration has rejected its transfer to the UAF. Have the 
Ukrainians requested ATACMS?
    Secretary Austin. The equipment we provide is based on a collective 
assessment of the capability Ukraine needs to be successful on the 
battlefield, not system requests, while balancing U.S. readiness 
requirements, training, sustainability, and several other factors. Our 
assistance is also shaped by my frequent conversations with the 
Ukrainian defense minister, Chairman Milley's talks with the Ukrainian 
Chief of Defense, and by the constant interactions that USEUCOM has 
with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    The Department remains in regular contact with our Ukrainian 
partners to assess and support their requirements. We are laser focused 
on getting Ukraine the weapons and equipment it needs to be successful 
on the battlefield.
    It is our assessment that the GMLRS munitions and launcher 
capabilities that have been provided to Ukraine can reach the vast 
majority of targets in Ukrainian territory. The Department is also in 
the process of procuring the Ground Launched Small Diameter Bomb for 
delivery to Ukraine, which will significantly enhance Ukraine's 
precision long-range fires capability.
    Based on Ukraine's successes on the battlefield, our near-term and 
long-term investments are paying off. We believe that the extraordinary 
efforts we are taking, alongside our allies and partners, will continue 
to get Ukraine what it needs to be effective.

    40. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, if long-range fires are among 
UAF's critical needs for battlefield success, then why has the 
Administration denied their transfer?
    Secretary Austin. We have provided more than $32 billion of 
security assistance to Ukraine and are in constant contact with 
Ukraine's leadership to understand their requirements. We are focused 
on providing what is most effective on the battlefield, and what they 
need to be successful, such air defense capabilities to protect the 
Ukrainian people and weapons and equipment to retake territory on the 
ground. Ukraine has been effective, inflicting tremendous damage on 
Putin's forces.
    Ultimately, all of our security assistance decisions for Ukraine 
are based on a collective prioritization of Ukraine's battlefield 
needs, while balancing United States readiness requirements, training, 
sustainability, and other factors. Priorities include providing Ukraine 
with critical long-range fires capabilities, such as High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket Systems and corresponding munitions, which can range 
the vast majority of targets in Ukrainian territory. The United States 
also committed to provide Ukraine with the Ground Launched Small 
Diameter Bomb, which will significantly enhance Ukraine's precision 
long-range fires capability.
                       march delegation to egypt
    41. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, during your visit to Egypt on 
March 8, 2023, press was prevented from covering your meetings with 
senior Egyptian officials. Previous defense secretaries have refused to 
proceed with meetings when the press has been prevented from covering 
them. Can you please explain what happened, from the Department's 
perspective, in terms of press access to your meetings?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is committed to freedom of the 
press, and we consistently provide the news media with timely and 
accurate information. This includes conducting regular press briefings, 
responding to public inquiries, and answering press queries. My 
invitation and hosting of credentialed, independent media on my trips, 
to include my recent visit to the Middle East, is one example.
    Prior to travel, my team, alongside a variety of stakeholders such 
as the Department of State and host countries, negotiates press access 
for planned events. The Department of Defense considers the traveling 
press as integral to the success of the U.S. delegation and includes 
them in all press events and open engagements.
    My team consistently pressed for access by all members of the 
accredited press corps traveling with me before, during, and after the 
visit to Egypt. After the trip, the Government of Egypt in followup 
engagements informed my team that they draw a distinction between 
official press affiliated with the United States Government, such as 
official photographers and social media experts, and the traveling 
press corps. This distinction on their part led to misunderstanding 
between our two sides that ultimately impacted travel press access. Our 
concerns with this lack of press access were subsequently raised 
directly with Egyptian counterparts from DOD and State Department 
Policy and Public Affairs offices.
    The position of the Department of Defense is and continues to be 
that all accredited press traveling with my delegation should have 
equal access to my official open and public engagements. We will make 
this clear in adva]nce to any host nations--including Egypt--going 
forward.

    42. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, why did the meeting proceed 
despite the press being prevented from covering it, per usual?
    Secretary Austin. The United States and Egypt are cooperating 
closely to address a range of shared interests, including de-escalating 
conflicts, addressing humanitarian crises, supporting a negotiated two-
State solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and expanding 
regional security integration. My meetings in Egypt were a critical 
opportunity to reinforce the Department of Defense's support for 
addressing human rights and fundamental freedoms, as well as advancing 
our work to mitigate civilian harm during Egyptian Armed Forces' 
operations. I emphasized a range of United States priorities and 
concerns during my meetings with President Sisi and Minister of Defense 
Zaki that advanced my Department's focus on implementing the National 
Defense Strategy and the United States Government's emphasis on 
regional security and stability.

    43. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, did you relay anything to the 
Egyptian Government about the manner in which the press was treated 
during your visit? Please provide any correspondence you had related to 
this issue.
    Secretary Austin. My team consistently pressed for access for all 
members of the press corps traveling with me before, during, and after 
my visit to Egypt. Specific challenges related to my March visit to 
Egypt were raised directly with Egyptian counterparts.

    44. Senator Wicker. Secretary Austin, what measures, if any, does 
the Department plan to take to ensure proper press coverage of your 
engagements in the future?
    Secretary Austin. The Department of Defense will continue to insist 
on access to open and public engagements for all members of the 
accredited press corps traveling with me.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                          chinese spy balloon
    45. Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, when did you first become 
aware of the spy balloon? If you submit an answer labeled CUI, please 
explain in detail why your answer merits that label, since these 
questions are for the record.
    Secretary Austin. I was first notified about the high-altitude 
balloon (HAB) by my senior military assistant on the evening of January 
27, 2023, prior to it entering U.S. airspace. The HAB then re-entered 
U.S. airspace on January 31, 2023.

    46. Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, General VanHerck told us last 
week that he would have been prepared to present options to shoot the 
balloon down on January 28, but you didn't request any until February 1 
when the balloon had already finished its journey across Alaska and 
Canada, and then reentered the United States. Why didn't you request 
options sooner? Why did you leave NORAD airspace unprotected for at 
least 5 days?
    Secretary Austin. The NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander assessed that the 
balloon did not present a kinetic threat to North America. Working with 
the Canadian military, NORAD/NORTHCOM began immediately taking action 
and developing additional options to better characterize the incursion. 
NORAD continued to track the PRC HAB, ensuring the Department could 
protect sensitive sites against foreign collection. On January 29, 
2023, I departed for travel to the Republic of Korea and the 
Philippines. Also on January 29, 2023, the NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander 
advised me and Chairman Milley that he was looking at options to engage 
the balloon should that be directed. The balloon re-entered U.S. 
airspace on January 31. That evening, President Biden, through his 
national security Advisor, directed the military to immediately refine 
and present options to shoot down the PRC HAB. I, through Chairman 
Milley, asked for options to shoot the PRC HAB down. On February 1, 
2023, while in the Philippines, I convened a meeting with senior 
military officials to review options to take down the PRC HAB safely, 
while closely monitoring its path and intelligence collection threat.

    47. Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, when General VanHerck told 
you--or perhaps your senior military aide--that he was prepared to 
shoot down the balloon in Alaskan airspace on January 28, did you have 
the legal authority to order the shoot down?
    Secretary Austin. Shooting down the HAB was lawful under domestic 
and international law. DOD has express statutory authority to act to 
protect against threats to sensitive military installations, including 
against surveillance from unmanned aircraft. The action we took 
occurred within U.S. territory against an unmanned foreign surveillance 
balloon that entered and was operating unlawfully in U.S. airspace.

    48. Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, how could a Chinese balloon 
conducting a spy mission not be considered a threat?
    Secretary Austin. The NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander assessed that the 
balloon did not present a kinetic threat to North America. Working with 
the Canadian military, NORAD/NORTHCOM began immediately taking action 
and developing additional options to better characterize the incursion. 
NORAD continued to track the PRC HAB, ensuring the Department could 
protect sensitive sites against foreign collection. On January 29, 
2023, I departed for travel to the Republic of Korea and the 
Philippines. Also on January 29, 2023, the NORAD/NORTHCOM Commander 
advised me and Chairman Milley that he was looking at options to engage 
the balloon should that be directed. The balloon re-entered U.S. 
airspace on January 31. That evening, President Biden, through his 
national security Advisor, directed the military to immediately refine 
and present options to shoot down the PRC HAB. I, through Chairman 
Milley, asked for options to shoot the PRC HAB down. On February 1, 
2023, while in the Philippines, I convened a meeting with senior 
military officials to review options to take down the PRC HAB safely, 
while closely monitoring its path and intelligence collection threat.

    49. Senator Cotton. Secretary Austin, I appreciated General 
VanHerck's candor last week. He fulfilled the promise he made when he 
was confirmed to give us his honest assessment, even when it's 
politically uncomfortable. Will you commit that there will be no 
retaliation against General VanHerck for his honest testimony last 
week?
    Secretary Austin. I am grateful to General VanHerck for his service 
to our country. Retaliation is unacceptable and will not be tolerated 
in my Department, including for testimony before Congress.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
                               landmines
    50. Senator Rounds. General Milley, you have been outspoken on the 
need for landmine alternatives to be available to the Joint Force to 
shape engagement areas to kill enemy ground forces and to protect 
friendly forces. At Munich you described how the Ukrainians have been 
effectively using these capabilities to destroy Russian armor. Can you 
describe how the new systems we are developing have self-deactivation / 
self-destruct capabilities, so they would not harm civilians after 
hostilities cease?1
    General Milley. All current U.S. policy-compliant landmine systems 
incorporate self-destruct and self-deactivate features that exceed the 
requirements of the Certain Conventional Weapons (CCW) Amended Mines 
Protocol II. The Army's legacy compliant systems, the Family of 
Scatterable Mines, have demonstrated extremely high self-destruct and 
self-deactivate reliability. Throughout lifecycle testing, no armed 
mined has failed to self-destruct.
    The Army is developing new systems to replace the aging inventory 
of legacy Family of Scatterable Mine systems. These new systems are 
fully compliant with the U.S. anti-personnel landmine policy and 
therefore are not designed or intended to be exploded by the presence, 
proximity, or contact of a person nor will they incapacitate, injure, 
or kill one or more persons. These systems are also designed to self-
deactivate and leave non-hazardous remnants on the field after either a 
pre-set time or when forces on the ground determine that they are no 
longer needed.
    The requirement for the new systems in development will far exceed 
the CCW Amended Mines Protocol II requirement with a minimum self-
destruct reliability of 99 percent. Additionally, the newly developed 
mines will have less than 1 in 10,000 probability (e.g. 99.99 percent 
reliability) of being hazardous after 120 days.

    51. Senator Rounds. General Milley, is it true that the size and 
composition of the U.S. Army is based on the assumption that these 
capabilities would be available to enable our troops to fight and win a 
ground war?
    General Milley. Many different variables affect the required size 
and composition of the U.S. Army and its ability to meet current and 
future challenges. These vary significantly based on the mission, and 
various factors of the operational environment, but are not limited to: 
training, experience, equipment, sustainability, enemy threat, and 
mobility. President's Budget Fiscal Year 2024 requested end-strength 
delivers a ready and capable Army able to achieve the Department's 
modernization goals.

    52. Senator Rounds. General Milley, have the Ukrainians proven that 
these are capabilities required to fight and win any future land war?
    General Milley. The United States has not actually provided Ukraine 
with the new capabilities. It has provided older anti-tank/vehicle 
mines that are compliant with U.S. policy.
    Landmines have been critical for Ukrainian success against the 
Russian ground forces. The Ukrainians employ landmines to canalize 
Russian armored forces, putting them into engagement areas and making 
them vulnerable to the 60,000 anti-tank weapons systems that we've 
provided.
    The Ukrainian experience demonstrates how the capabilities of 
policy compliant landmines would increase the effectiveness of U.S. 
Forces in future conflict by enhancing the effectiveness of friendly 
fires, denying adversaries the use of terrain, disrupting enemy 
sustainment operations, and inflicting damage to enemy forces. If 
developed and used in accordance with international laws, treaties, and 
agreements, landmines can remain an effective deterrent and defensive 
option.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
    special operations forces (sof) in great power competition (gpc)
    53. Senator Ernst. General Milley, how can SOF help deter or defeat 
great power competitors?
    General Milley. Our Special Operations Forces are vital to 
achieving the defense priorities outlined in the National Defense 
Strategy across the spectrum of conflict. SOF operations and activities 
in support of integrated deterrence ensure Joint Force advantage in 
great power competition, crisis, and conflict. SOF accomplish this 
while maintaining critical crisis response capabilities and continuing 
efforts to counter Violent Extremist Organization activities. Our 
adversaries increasingly employ irregular, unconventional, asymmetric, 
and hybrid / gray-zone activities to challenge the United States and 
hold our interests as well as those of our allies and partners at risk. 
Authoritarian regimes undertake these malign activities to contest the 
rules-based international order and advance their interests.
    In response, our SOF are uniquely positioned to provide the means 
to deter, detect and illuminate, disrupt, and when required defeat our 
adversaries' competitive strategies. In competition, the DOD may not be 
in the lead for the USG. Our SOF are well-versed in providing critical 
support, information, and intelligence to other Government Departments 
and agencies and to those of our allies and partners that they need to 
counter our adversaries' malign efforts. SOF strategic competition-
related operations and activities complicate adversary decisionmaking, 
reduce their freedom of maneuver, isolate them, and increase the cost 
relative to the benefits associated with the continuation of malign 
activities. Through building the resilience and capabilities of our 
allies and partners across the globe, SOF help to reduce the impact of 
adversary malign actions and build awareness, access, and influence, 
which limit adversary options and again increase the adversary cost / 
risk.

    54. Senator Ernst. General Milley, your personal opinion, would 
partnering with surrogate forces that are responding to hostilities 
help SOF compete against great powers?
    General Milley. The National Defense Strategy directs the Joint 
Force to impose costs upon our adversaries' malign strategies. The 
Joint Force should not rule out / eliminate any viable options, 
including the use of partnered or surrogate forces where our interests 
align and are mutually beneficial. Our support of surrogate forces must 
comply with U.S. Law and DOD policy. Our SOF have a long history of 
building and supporting partner forces to defend their nation's 
sovereignty and combat internal threats. Their use achieves our 
objectives, confounds our adversaries' efforts, preserves U.S. 
resources, and reduces the risk to mission and forces, use of surrogate 
forces is a legitimate choice and a clear combat multiplier. Failing to 
consider the capabilities of surrogate forces surrenders maneuver space 
to our adversaries. Employing surrogate forces, particularly when their 
activities support a comprehensive, whole-of-government approach, 
complicates our adversaries' decisionmaking, increases cost / risk for 
our adversaries, and limits their freedom of maneuver.
    preventing threats to n]orth atlantic treaty organization (nato)
    55. Senator Ernst. General Milley, how extensive are Russian 
manpower and equipment losses?
    General Milley. Precise casualty information is hard to obtain, but 
believe that the number of Russians casualties (including those killed 
and wounded) in Ukraine, perhaps 200,000--250,000. Russian forces have 
also suffered high losses in their equipment.

    56. Senator Ernst. General Milley, by how long has this delayed 
Russia's ability to reconstitute a threat to NATO's eastern flank?
    General Milley. Russia has already had to mobilize 200-300 thousand 
poorly trained reservists in order to sustain their current battle 
losses.
    The losses have directly impacted their ability to threaten NATO's 
eastern flank, and we can provide additional information on our 
estimates of Russian combat power at higher levels of classification.
    Of note, the United States and NATO have contributed significant 
resources to deterring Russia from attacking NATO's eastern flank. 
There are now eight NATO Battle Groups in the alliance's frontline 
states. There are now more than 100,000 United States Forces in Europe. 
Air policing over the Baltic Sea has stepped up, and President Joe 
Biden has repeatedly said the United States will defend every inch of 
NATO territory.

    57. Senator Ernst. General Milley, by your best military advice, 
has United States support reduced the risk of deterrence failure in 
Europe?
    General Milley. Ukraine's military operations, critically enabled 
by the United States and our allies, have significantly reduced 
Russia's military capabilities in key areas. However, the key factor 
that has improved the prospects for deterrence is how this Russian 
aggression has galvanized the resolve of NATO nations to collectively 
defend our Homelands. It has even resulted in NATO enlargement--Finland 
has joined, and Sweden is on a path to join NATO. We are also 
demonstrating our enormous capacity to rapidly reinforce NATO's eastern 
flank with United States Forces. We will continue to demonstrate this 
capacity through regular exercises that showcase United States and 
allied agility across the depth and breadth of the Balkans, Baltic, and 
Central Europe.

    58. Senator Ernst. General Milley, has degradation of Russia's 
military likely decreased our operational requirements in Europe?
    General Milley. Ukraine's military operations, critically enabled 
by the U.S. and our allies, have significantly reduced Russia's 
military capabilities in key areas. However, Russia's leaders have 
demonstrated a commitment to reckless aggression beyond what anyone had 
previously understood. Until that behavior changes, the United States 
and our allies must continue to invest in our collective defense, 
conventional and strategic, globally and across all military domains.
                mismatch between strategy and resources
    59. Senator Ernst. Secretary Austin, what hard choices has the 
Department made to free-up resources for readiness and modernization?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is focused on having the right mix 
of capabilities matched to our strategy to deter our adversaries, 
remain dominant on the battlefield, and prevail in conflict, if 
necessary. As we look to our most significant challenges, we must 
divest vulnerable platforms that can no longer be affordably modernized 
or maintained to provide credible combat power. Failing to do so will 
impact the readiness of the Joint Force and cause a $4 billion drag on 
our ability to invest in, and transition to, the capabilities we need 
to meet our strategy.
    We need help from Congress to ensure that we resource the 
capabilities we need to meet our strategy. Two significant examples of 
platforms the Department should divest from are the A-10 and some of 
the early hulls of the Freedom Class Littoral Combat Ship, due to their 
single-mission focus or limited relevance for future challenges. These 
divestments will help us transition to a more advanced, capable, and 
ready force by providing savings that can be utilized to, for example, 
correct maintenance backlogs and invest in more survivable, lethal, and 
resilient capabilities.

    60. Senator Ernst. Secretary Austin, do you commit to provide 
documentation of those reinvestments?
    Secretary Austin. Yes.
          ground-based missile capabilities in western pacific
    61. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would fielding ground-launched, 
theater-range missile systems in the Indo-Pacific help offset China's 
advantage in these capabilities? Please explain.
    General Milley. Yes, the ranges associated with such weapons 
systems force the adversary to account for threats to assets previously 
considered in sanctuary.
    The presence of long-range weapons systems inside the theater 
complicates the adversary's targeting problem and forces the PRC to 
dedicate assets to look for and potentially engage additional targets. 
When combined with robust and capable air and maritime forces, these 
ground-based systems work to offset Chinese advantages and deliver 
competitive United States capabilities within the theater. They provide 
the Joint Force with the depth to execute fires from dispersed 
locations at different ranges.

    62. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help availability of 
persistent, prompt, and survivable strike options?
    General Milley. Yes, the Department has long advocated for stand-
in, forward deployed forces in the Western Pacific to provide strike 
options should hostilities commence. The presence of such capabilities, 
especially when combined with other capabilities within the Joint Force 
and resilient command and control, will provide increased fires options 
to the theater commander.

    63. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help deter of enemy 
attack or escalation?
    General Milley. Yes, the art of deterrence is to convince our 
adversaries that the costs we can impose on them are not worth whatever 
strategic gain they seek and induce doubt that their objectives can be 
accomplished. Ground-launched, theater-range missiles in the Western 
Pacific are an important part of combat-credible forces that contribute 
to integrated deterrence by altering adversary perceptions of costs, 
benefits, and consequences of action.

    64. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help impose of 
operational costs on enemy forces?
    General Milley. Yes, diverse, multi-domain strike options force the 
adversary to apply resources toward different locations with a variety 
of characteristics. This dilutes the adversary's collection efforts 
that could have been focused on specific assets and locations if the 
multi-domain options did not exist. Any time we can complicate a 
targeting solution it imposes operational costs on our adversaries and 
degrades their surveillance-strike capabilities.

    65. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help deliver responsive 
strikes against time-critical enemy targets?
    General Milley. Yes, the characteristics of the ground-launched, 
theater-range weapons systems currently in development will help 
deliver responsive strikes on time-critical enemy targets with desired 
effects. We have campaign-level modeling and simulation analysis 
available at higher classification that supports this conclusion.

    66. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help destroy high-value 
targets to enable other joint forces?
    General Milley. Yes, the specifics are available at higher 
classification, but our analysis indicates these weapons systems are 
lethal, responsive, and enable Joint Force campaign objectives.

    67. Senator Ernst. General Milley, would U.S. ground-launched 
missiles at various ranges and launch locations in the Western Pacific 
create dilemmas for enemy forces?
    General Milley. The portfolio of weapons we are developing, 
including ground-launched missiles like the Long Range Hypersonic 
Weapon, Block V Tomahawk, and Naval Strike Missile, work toward 
imposing dilemmas on the adversary. When deployed to distributed 
locations and integrated with other Joint and Combined Force efforts 
these weapons systems create dilemmas for our adversaries.
                           nuclear deterrence
    68. Senator Ernst. General Milley, given recent nuclear 
developments, should Congress receive an independent evaluation of the 
strategic nuclear force requirements of deterring Russia and China?
    General Milley. I support the congressional Commission on the 
Strategic Posture of the United States.
    We are fully committed to field and modernize the nuclear triad, 
Dual Capable Aircraft, the nuclear stockpile, and Nuclear Command, 
Control, and Communications infrastructure.
    In light of increasing nuclear threats from Russia and China, I 
support assessing additional low-yield, non-ballistic nuclear 
capabilities to better deter, assure, and respond to a potential 
regional conflict.
    We are also improving our internal processes to ensure we identify 
potential requirements early enough for them to have a deterrent effect 
against Russia and China.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                         china's defense budget
    69. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, in your 
testimony you stated the PRC remains our number one long term geo-
strategic threat and continues to develop significant nuclear, space, 
cyber, land, sea, and air capabilities. While I agree with your 
statement, this year's budget is far from sufficient in meeting this 
threat. China currently has 340 war ships, while we have 297. In 2028, 
China will likely have at least 400 ships and our fleet will shrink to 
291. Under this year's budget proposal, our army, the Nation's 
preeminent land force will shrink from 485,000 to 452,000 while the 
People's Liberation Army Ground Force (PLAGF) has an end strength of 
approximately 975,000. Our Air Force is set to buy the bare minimum of 
fighters to keep our capability healthy while every publicly released 
war-game has reiterated the absolute importance of our ability to sink 
ships for Taiwan to be successful in a cross-strait conflict. Finally, 
this year's budget fails to provide the Marine Corps with San Antonio-
class amphibious warships, an absolutely necessary tool to get marines 
into the fight. While you're asking to institute an inflation-adjusted 
defense cut this year, China seeks to increase its military spending by 
over 7 percent. Does the Department understand our budget is not to 
counter the China of today, but of tomorrow--a China that continues to 
demonstrate a willingness to invest in its military, including in areas 
in which they are already ahead?
    Secretary Austin. The U.S. military remains the most capable 
fighting force in history, and I am confident in the Joint Force's 
ability to deter, and if required, defeat PRC aggression. The PRC's 
military expansion is why the Department is focused on the PRC as our 
pacing challenge and why our fiscal year 2024 budget request includes 
$9.1 billion for the Pacific Deterrence Initiative to maintain 
deterrence today, tomorrow, and in the future. This is the largest ever 
PDI investment, and a 40 percent increase above last year. We are also 
requesting significant resources to maintain dominance in all domains.
    Additionally, we're focused on moving and sustaining forces further 
forward, west of the International Date Line, and making our force 
posture more capable and lethal. Alongside our allies and partners, 
we're improving our posture in the Philippines, Australia, and Japan. 
We are also focused on funding what is executable to maintain our 
strategic advantage, building a distributed and resilience security 
architecture in the Indo-Pacific region.
    General Milley. The PLA's rapid expansion is one of the reasons the 
Department is focused on the PRC as the pacing challenge and why we are 
doing more than ever before to deter, defend, and, if necessary, defeat 
aggression from the PRC. The National Defense Strategy, with direct 
linkages to the threat-informed Joint Warfighting Concept (JWC), is 
fully integrated into our resourcing and requirements processes to 
build the force required for the future.
    Along with the $9.1 billion request for the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative that provides the right mix of capabilities to remain 
dominant against the pacing challenge, we are expanding and connecting 
our regional allies and partners. Partnerships with countries such as 
Australia, the Philippines, Japan, and the Republic of Korea are force 
multipliers for a potential conflict with China. President's Budget 
Fiscal Year 2024s request, coupled with our unparalleled network of 
allies and partners, ensures our continued ability to deter, and if 
required, defeat PRC aggression.
                                 taiwan
    70. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, I want 
to talk to you about Taiwan. I've been giving a series of speeches 
around town on the theme of ``Why Taiwan Matters''. I'm doing it 
because I fear that the biggest disparity between the United States and 
the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is around will. I have no doubt that 
the CCP has the will to fight over Taiwan if it ever comes to it. 
Frankly, I sometimes worry that the United States does not. Not our 
servicemembers, of course. I know they will do their duty and do as 
commanded, and do it damn well. They are the best fighting force the 
world has ever seen. If we go to war with China over Taiwan, it's going 
to be a MAJOR war. I'm not sure the American people know why it matters 
that we defend Taiwan. So, like I said, I've been giving this series of 
speeches trying to build the will. But I'm just one United States 
Senator. What are you and the Administration doing to help Americans 
understand the importance of Taiwan and the sacrifice that it will take 
to defend it?
    Secretary Austin. An invasion of Taiwan by the PRC is neither 
imminent nor inevitable. The Administration will continue to make clear 
that cross-Strait peace and stability remains a fundamental U.S. 
national security interest in the Indo-Pacific region. Taiwan's 
position within the first island chain is critical to the free flow of 
commerce and continued advance of personal freedoms and democratic 
ideals throughout the region. This is why this Administration, like 
those before it, has affirmed policy commitments enumerated under the 
United States ``One-China'' policy, defined by the Taiwan Relations 
Act, the three joint communiques, and the six assurances.
    Moreover, we affirm these policy commitments not only to the 
American people and our Taiwan partners, but with all allies and 
partners with shared interests in the Indo-Pacific region. So, the 
Department will continue to support a peaceful resolution to cross-
Strait tensions, consistent with the goals and interests of the people 
on Taiwan. We will continue to make available to Taiwan defense 
articles and services necessary to enable it to maintain its self-
defense consistent with the Taiwan Relations Act, and we will also work 
with industry to ensure the swift provision of defensive weaponry and 
sustainment to Taiwan.
    General Milley. Taiwan is an important United States partner in the 
INDOPACIFIC region when it comes to economic trade and democratic 
values. The Joint Force remains determined to support Taiwan and its 
right to defend itself. That involves providing them the right tools 
and training they need for defense. Additionally, we remain determined 
to modernize our force as the most powerful on Earth to deter 
aggressive actions.
    This budget is informed by our National Defense Strategy and makes 
the necessary investments to ensure we are equipped and ready for any 
threat--today and in the future. Every day the Armed Forces 
demonstrates to the American people that the U.S. military stands 
ready, and with the capability to help defend Taiwan if asked to do so. 
I also encourage our elected officials to help carry that message to 
the American people that we will not tolerate military action against 
Taiwan, and threatens their democratic way of life, and why it's in our 
national interest and the global interest to preserve the international 
rules-based order.

    71. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, 
continuing on the theme of will, how do you access Taiwan's will to 
fight?
    Secretary Austin. We believe through smart investments and key 
reforms, Taiwan can send a clear signal that its society and armed 
forces are committed and prepared to defend Taiwan. We therefore 
appreciate that President Tsai has prioritized the development and 
acquisition of asymmetric capabilities best suited for its defense 
against People's Republic of China coercion and aggression. DOD is 
taking a proactive approach to supporting these efforts as we continue 
upholding our commitment under the Taiwan Relations Act to make 
available to Taiwan appropriate defense articles and services.
    Taiwan must complement investments in these critical capabilities 
with equal focus on enhancing resilience, supporting whole-of-society 
defense, and building a strategy that includes defense-in-depth. In 
this regard, President Tsai's determination to reform Taiwan's reserve 
forces and integrate civilian and military agencies under the All-Out 
Defense Mobilization Agency is critical to enhancing Taiwan's overall 
preparedness--and in doing so will further strengthen deterrence. DOD 
will continue to work with relevant United States Departments and 
agencies to support Taiwan's efforts in this regard.
    General Milley. In March 2022, over 70 percent of Taiwan's 
population stated they would be willing to fight if the PRC invaded 
Taiwan.
    If the United States did not send troops to support Taiwan during a 
PRC invasion, 65 percent of Taiwan's population had confidence in the 
Nation's defense.

    72. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, will 
they respond with the courage and determination of the Ukrainians if 
they are attacked?
    Secretary Austin. While I would caution against making direct 
comparisons between Taiwan and Ukraine, I agree that Ukraine's response 
to Russia's illegal and unprovoked invasion contains broad lessons for 
Taiwan. Taiwan's commitment to defense reforms, whole-of-society 
defense and resilience, and increased defense spending are strong 
signals that its armed forces and society are committed and prepared to 
defend Taiwan.
    General Milley. Taiwan is learning lessons from the Russia-Ukraine 
conflict and taking measures to increase its resiliency.
    In December 2022, President Tsai announced an extension of military 
conscription from 4 to 12 months beginning in 2024. The public is 
supportive of extending mandatory military service and reserve training 
as a result of the invasion of Ukraine. The Taiwanese have a more 
favorable view of military service and training.
    Public opinion polling indicates over 70 percent of Taiwan's 
population would be willing to fight if the PRC invades Taiwan.
    Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, some of Taiwan's citizens 
are have joined grassroots civil defense organizations.

    73. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, Taiwan 
spends on its defense, since 2020, (according to the Central 
Intelligence Agency (CIA)) more than 2 percent of its gross domestic 
product (GDP)--something we can't get most of our NATO allies, the 
biggest of them, to do. And we're the only ones in the world that 
supply them. Yet, they're waiting for $19 billion in deliveries--things 
they've already bought. What are you doing to deal with this backlog?
    Secretary Austin. We remain focused on identifying the capabilities 
Taiwan needs and working to provide them as soon as possible. We are 
focused on tackling the issues we control--cutting red tape, decreasing 
the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) backlog, and providing innovative 
capabilities.
    Last summer I tasked the Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and 
the Under Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Sustainment to 
establish an FMS Tiger Team to identify efficiencies, clear systemic 
issues, and accelerate the responsiveness of the DOD FMS process to 
meet the capability requirements of our allies and partners. We must 
provide capabilities to our allies and partners as quickly as possible 
in support of their requirements, as well as our own National Defense 
Strategy.
    Through a review of case studies and past efficiency efforts, as 
well as meetings with industry and others, the Tiger Team identified 
friction points in the DOD process and developed dozens of 
recommendations intended to address the critical and procedural 
challenges causing delays. The Tiger Team also identified systemic 
changes that seek to improve the overall efficacy and efficiency of the 
process, such as accelerating transition to data driven processes to 
enable monitoring and transparency and continuous process review to 
ensure implementation of the recommendations. To be clear, there is no 
one solution. Much like our own challenges, timelines for delivery of 
equipment are often dictated by production timelines of industry.
    We are committed to working with Congress where appropriate to seek 
necessary authorities to reduce the backlog.
    General Milley. Since 2000, Congress was notified of over $52 
billion in FMS to Taiwan, and the United States delivered over $35 
billion worth of defense-related items.
    The difference between FMS notification and delivery is mostly the 
result of factors outside of DOD control including materiel lead times, 
supply chains, and production limitations within the defense industrial 
base, and existing laws.
    I will support the Secretary's efforts to examine exportability 
challenges and identify options to accelerate delivery timelines for 
FMS cases whenever possible.

    74. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, I want 
to talk to you about the so-called ``porcupine strategy'' for Taiwan. I 
know the administration subscribes to the necessity of this. I do, too. 
Now, to be clear, it doesn't account for all Taiwan needs to defend 
itself. They have a range of missions and contingencies to plan for, as 
do we. But they do need to focus on the most defensive weapons, things 
like harpoons, stingers, and javelins. There was an effort last 
Congress to help with that--by providing $10 billion in those sorts of 
arms for Taiwan. We passed that in the National Defense Authorization 
vAct (NDAA). The problem is the Biden Administration never prioritized 
it in its conversations with the appropriators. As a result, it went 
unfunded. Instead, we ended up with a small loan program that Taiwan 
has been clear it doesn't want and can't use. Will you make it a 
priority to get this done this year, either in a supplemental or as 
part of the fiscal year 2024 appropriations process?
    Secretary Austin. Thank you for providing us authorities under the 
Taiwan Enhanced Resilience Act. We remain focused on identifying the 
capabilities Taiwan needs and working to provide them as soon as 
possible. This is a shared challenge, and we will need the 
authorization backed by appropriate resources. We stand ready to work 
with Congress on this matter.
    General Milley. China is the pacing challenge for the United States 
military and we support development of Taiwan's asymmetric defense 
capabilities against the PRC threat, consistent with the one China 
policy. Along with other elements of DOD, the Joint Force is engaged in 
efforts to increase Taiwan's capability and capacity to defend itself, 
including efforts to identify any further legislative authorities 
required and sharpening justification for FMF grants.

    75. Senator Sullivan. General Milley, would acquiring $2 billion 
dollars in defense capabilities benefit Taiwan's ability to defend 
itself?
    General Milley. Yes. Our efforts to support Taiwan focus on 
deterrence and self-defense, and they remain consistent with our 
longstanding policy. Ensuring Taiwan has the means to defend itself 
improves deterrence and contributes to peace and stability in the 
Strait. Acquiring $2 billion in defense capabilities would certainly 
aid our efforts.
             authorization for use of military force (aumf)
    76. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, in your 
testimony you stated we have acted decisively when Iran-backed militia 
groups have attacked United States forces in Iraq and Syria. As we all 
know, last week Iranian backed terrorists launched rockets and drones 
at our troops in Syria, killing a contractor and wounding five other 
servicemembers and we did, as you pointed out in your testimony, 
respond decisively. One of the key tools we frequently use in these 
decisive responses is the 2002 AUMF, which some of my colleagues are 
currently trying to repeal. This is the same authority we used to 
support taking out Qasem Soleimmani and Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis in 2020, 
which set back the terrorist Iranian Revolutionary Guard Quds force to 
this day. Currently, I have an amendment pending on the floor which 
would require the Office of the Director of National Intelligence 
(ODNI) to certify that repealing the 2002 AUMF would not degrade United 
States-led deference against Iranian aggression before it is 
implemented. In your personal opinions, does repealing the 2002 AUMF 
hurt our ability to respond to the aggression of Iranian-backed groups?
    Secretary Austin. The President has made clear he will not hesitate 
to protect and defend U.S. personnel. There is sufficient domestic 
legal authority under the President's Article II authority and the 2001 
AUMF to take necessary and proportionate action to protect United 
States personnel from threats in Iraq and Syria, including threats from 
Iran and Iran-backed groups. The United States does not conduct ongoing 
military activities that rely primarily on the 2002 AUMF as a domestic 
legal basis. Repeal of the 2002 AUMF would have no impact on current 
U.S. military operations and would support this Administration's 
commitment to a strong and comprehensive relationship with our Iraqi 
partners.
    General Milley. No. Repealing the 2002 AUMF would have no 
significant impacts or inhibit the United States military's ability to 
respond to aggression from Iranian-Aligned Militia Groups, provided the 
2001 AUMF remains intact. The 2001 AUMF, along with other authorities, 
allow the Joint Force enough flexibility to respond to aggression when 
necessary. Any effort to repeal the AUMF should take into account both 
current and future threats to our national security threats in the 
region and maintain clear authority for appropriate military action.
                         recruiting in schools
    77. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, this 
year's budget calls for an additional 12,355 servicemembers. Last week 
this Committee had a hearing on the Department of Defense's (DOD) 
recruiting challenges, where witnesses testified to a lack of interest 
among young people, low test scores, and medical conditions. In your 
testimony you stated your desire for DOD to seek partnerships with our 
Nation's best universities to find our generation's next leaders. How 
detrimental are high schools not allowing recruiters onto their 
campuses to both current and future recruiting efforts?
    Secretary Austin. The Department is working every day to recruit 
and retain America's best talent to leverage the strengths of all our 
people. Since the inception of the All-Volunteer Force, military 
recruiters have sought broad access to high schools campuses, because 
the schools offer one of the best settings for engaging with 
prospective recruits. School access allows recruiters to share our 
message about the opportunities and benefits available in today's 
military. Limited access undoubtedly makes recruiting efforts more 
difficult. The Department is working closely with the military services 
to develop new and creative ways to engage young Americans across all 
corners of the country, including by increasing access to high schools.
    General Milley. Federal law (Title 10 (U.S.C., Sec. 503c) 
encourages recruiter access to high schools and pertinent student 
directory information for the purposes of recruiting. By law, high 
schools must provide military recruiters access to high school 
students' names, addresses, and telephone listings and the same access 
to high school students as is provided to colleges, or to prospective 
employers of those students.
    The Department is identifying several lines of effort to mitigate 
the challenges of the recruiting environment and address barriers to 
accessing a broader cross-section of the population. Focusing on our 
recruiter's access to high schools is one of these efforts.
    The isolation and decreased personal interactions as a result of 
the pandemic, negatively impacted and stunted the relationship growth 
between our military personnel and communities. The decreased contact 
time recruiters had with potential applicants and their influencers in 
the community exacerbated the already existing challenges we face with 
a youth population that is disconnected and disinterested in service, 
declining veteran population and decreased youth interaction with 
influences in homes and local communities.
    Personal engagement between recruiters, schools and communities is 
an important aspect of delivering information, dispelling myths of 
military service and communicating the wide range of opportunities 
available across the Services and DOD. This is especially key in this 
era where youth are presented with a wide range of opportunities and 
education benefits in the civilian sector upon graduation.
                       arctic and alaska strategy
    78. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, in your 
testimony you stated climate change is creating new potential points 
for friction in places such as the Arctic. Last week, during this 
Committee's hearing with the United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) 
General VanHerck who, by the way, alongside the servicemembers in my 
State, conducted nothing short of varsity level operations against the 
Chinese Spy Balloon and several unidentified aerial objects, stated 
that ``Alaska might be the most strategic location on the planet.'' He 
also testified that DOD currently does not have the infrastructure, the 
communications, and the ability to respond and be persistent in the 
Arctic and Russia and China have developed capabilities to hold our 
Homeland at risk. With Alaska as the gateway for Russian and Chinese 
threats to major cities like Chicago, New York, and Miami, why does 
NORTHCOM not have assigned forces to do the aerial intercept mission in 
Alaska?
    Secretary Austin. Forces in Alaska that are assigned to USINDOPACOM 
routinely are allocated to support USNORTHCOM and NORAD 
responsibilities including to provide aerial defense for North America. 
DOD supports homeland defense requirements in Alaska through 
coordination between the Air Force, USNORTHCOM, NORAD, and USINDOPACOM, 
to include forces permanently stationed in Alaska and a layered defense 
network within the Alaska Air Defense Identification Zone. This 
approach ensures DOD is able to support homeland defense requirements 
and Indo-Pacific campaigning and warfighting.
    General Milley. Forces are allocated to NORAD and positioned in 
Alaska under NORAD command and control to conduct the aerial intercept 
missions in accordance with the NORAD contingency plan and a Secretary 
of Defense approved execution order.
    The United States and Canada are pursuing infrastructure and 
communications capability improvements that enhance our homeland 
defense from the arctic approaches. Specifically, the Sixth Generation 
Over the Horizon Radars, which Congress provided appropriation for, 
will increase our ability to execute NORAD's aerospace warning and 
control mission.

    79. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, who 
replaces the Indo-Pacific Command (INDOPACOM)-assigned F-22s and F-35s 
if those aircraft deploy to combat? Have the replacement units operated 
in Alaska year-round?
    Secretary Austin. DOD continuously adjusts our global posture based 
on operational requirements, risk, readiness and modernization 
considerations, and tradeoffs across priorities. DOD deploys fighter 
aircraft to support a range of rotational deployments, and if 
necessary, combat operations. When executing these deployments, DOD 
considers the effect on other missions conducted at the locations that 
deploying aircraft depart from.
    General Milley. The F-22 and F-35 fighter squadrons based in Alaska 
and assigned to United States Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) deploy 
in support of USINDOPACOM, and global requirements. Simultaneously 
these squadrons maintain ready aircraft in support of Aerospace Control 
Alert Level 1 (ACA 1), which is the steady-State level of readiness, 
while also maintaining the capability to increase ready aircraft in 
conjunction with increased ACA levels, all in accordance with Operation 
NOBLE EAGLE (ONE). By design, when Air Force fighter squadrons deploy, 
they only deploy with a portion of their total aircraft. Even in the 
event of the deployment of all four Alaska based fighter squadrons, 
their remaining aircraft would be capable of maintaining the ONE 
mission, and not require a replacement.
    Additional backfill of Alaska based fighter aircraft would be 
sourced by Continental United States (CONUS) based fighter squadrons 
through the identification of pilots that have completed arctic 
survival training (through previous assignment to Alaska, or rapid 
training) from multiple CONUS alert aircraft locations, and the 
augmentation of their air crew flight equipment (survival gear).

    80. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Austin and General Milley, since 
2017, the Army has fielded three theater-specific multi-domain task 
forces capable of employing long-range precision effects to include 
intelligence collection and precision strikes. Currently, two of the 
Army's multi-domain task forces are concentrated on the Pacific Command 
Area of Responsibility (AOR) and the third is focused on European 
Command / Africa Command Currently the Army is looking to field a 
fourth and possibly a fifth multi-domain task force. DOD's Arctic 
strategy states ``with increasing levels of adversary activities in the 
region, it is essential for the U.S. Army to employ a calibrated force 
posture with units that are manned, trained, and equipped to maintain a 
credible deterrence and the first line of defense of the Homeland.'' 
The study additionally rightfully points out the Arctic's place as a 
center of strategic competition. With the importance of the Arctic as 
laid out in the Army's strategy on the region and the branch's interest 
in creating two more theater-specific multi-domain task forces, can you 
speak to the benefits of having Alaska as the location for the next 
multi-domain task force?
    Secretary Austin. DOD is using the Army's Multi-Domain Task Forces 
(MDTFs) primarily to support priority warfighting objectives. DOD has 
activated MDTF headquarters at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington, to 
support warfighting requirements in the Indo-Pacific region and in 
Wiesbaden, Germany, to support warfighting requirements in Europe. DOD 
is in the process of activating a third MDTF headquarters in Hawaii 
over the course of fiscal year 2023, which will further support DOD's 
focus on the PRC as the Department's pacing challenge. DOD assesses 
that this laydown of MDTF capabilities is appropriate to support our 
requirements. DOD has the ability to deploy elements from the MDTF at 
Joint Base Lewis-McChord in the event that any requirements emerge in 
Alaska or the Arctic that call for MDTF capabilities.
    General Milley. To meet evolving threats, the Army continues to 
transform by developing capabilities to remain the dominant land force 
in the world. A key effort in this endeavor is the modernization of the 
Army's force structure and includes the establishment of Multi-Domain 
Task Forces (MDTFs).
    The Army's MDTFs are designed to be scalable from operational to 
strategic level, which can be tailored to the requirements and the 
needs of Joint Force Commanders. The MDTF design will continue to 
evolve and change based on feedback from experimentation and required 
capabilities for the Army of 2030. During this analysis, the Army 
continues to explore options to station the fourth and fifth MDTFs for 
activation in fiscal years 2027 and 2028.
    The Army and the Joint Force must consider how to mobilize, 
project, and sustain combat power to provide Combatant Commanders 
(CCDRs) with required forces and equipment. From inception, each MDTF 
will be assigned or aligned to a Combatant Command, then built, 
trained, and exercised within the context of the Combatant Commander's 
requirements.
    Alaska is an ideal location for the development of new capabilities 
applicable to cold weather environments. The determination for the 
basing of the fourth and fifth MDTFs is currently ongoing. However, all 
Arctic-capable force structure decisions will be aligned with the 
National Strategy for the Arctic Region and other relevant posture 
guidance. Thank you for your strong and continued interest in the 
modernization and sustainment of our forces.
                               __________
                Questions Submitted by Senator Ted Budd
                           support to ukraine
    81. Senator Budd. Secretary Austin, as you know, the Ukrainian 
Armed Forces have been engaged in significant combat operations against 
the Russian Army in and around the cities of Bakhmut and Soledar. Much 
of that combat has been urban combat and some of it has been 
subterranean combat in the salt mines that are near those cities. The 
casualties for both sides have been significant. The Ukrainians have 
submitted a Letter of Request to you asking the United States to supply 
unmanned ground systems and associated systems. These systems would 
allow the Ukrainians to perform a number of dangerous missions remotely 
in the contemporary operating environment and thus avoid some of the 
casualties that they have been sustaining. The Letter of Request was 
from Major General Kyrylo Budanov, No. 222/9A/1220, and was submitted 
19 November 2022. What is the status of this request and when can we 
expect a decision?
    Secretary Austin. The security assistance we provide to Ukraine is 
shaped by the Department's frequent interactions with Ukrainian 
counterparts in the Ministry of Defense and Ukrainian Armed Forces. The 
Ukrainian Main Intelligence Directorate submitted the Letter of Request 
you referenced without formal endorsement from senior officials in the 
Ukrainian General Staff or Ministry of Defense who are authorized by 
the Government of Ukraine to make formal, prioritized requests. 
However, I have asked my staff to followup, as we are continually 
looking for new ideas on how best to support Ukraine.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                        THURSDAY, MARCH 30, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              ARMY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:33 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, 
Manchin, Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, 
Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Mullin, 
Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Let me call the hearing to order.
    Before we start, I would like to acknowledge the UH60 
Blackhawk training accident that occurred last night at Fort 
Campbell. Our thoughts are with the Army family today and I 
know this hits General McConville in a particularly difficult 
way as an aviator and as a former commander of the 101st 
Airborne Division. You know and you feel it personally.
    It also demonstrates the enduring risks our men and women 
who volunteer to serve our Nation face every day, not just in 
combat zones but in rigorous training. So all of our thoughts 
and prayers are with these families and with the Army today. 
Thank you.
    The Committee meets today to receive testimony on the 
President's Budget Request for the Army for fiscal year 2024. 
Our witnesses today are Secretary to the Army Christine Wormuth 
and Chief of Staff of the Army General James McConville.
    Thank you both for your service and please convey this 
Committee's appreciation to the men and women serving under 
your command.
    General McConville, as this will be your last posture 
hearing before your retirement, on behalf of the Committee I 
would like to offer you our sincere gratitude and 
congratulations. The Nation is safer and the United States Army 
is on a path of generational transformation because of your 
leadership.
    We thank you for your many decades of selfless service and 
we thank your family for their continued support, and most 
particularly for their continued service. I believe that every 
one of your sons is in the United States Army and that your 
son-in-law is in the United States Army. Am I correct?
    General McConville. And my daughter, Senator----
    Chairman Reed. I am sorry. You must be Irish. How many 
children do you have?
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Reed. The Army is faced with historic challenges, 
though, and even as the service is undertaking its most 
thorough modernization effort in 40 years while in the midst of 
the most difficult recruiting environment in half a century, 
the Army is being called upon to increase its forward operating 
presence.
    The Army's strength has always been drawn from its soldiers 
and its leaders and its tenacity to get the job done, and that 
characteristic grit is certainly needed today.
    In its fiscal year 2024 budget the Department of Defense 
(DOD) has requested $185 billion to the Army, marking the 
fourth straight year of a flat budget for the service. Even as 
every other service and element of the Department has benefited 
from significant increases, the Army has seen its funding 
essentially plateau.
    Understandably, the Department is focused on the pacing 
threat in the Indo-Pacific where the nature of competition 
relies heavily on our Nation's sea and air strength.
    However, I am concerned that inadequate investment in the 
United States' primary land component may create 
vulnerabilities. Combat credible ground forces are fundamental 
for deterrence, as we are witnessing every day in Europe.
    Furthermore, the Army has a critical role to play in the 
Indo-Pacific including providing long-range fires and ground 
forces, training and experimentation with our partners and 
allies, and enabling logistics and prepositioned stocks.
    We risk the Army's combat credibility if we do not provide 
it with the resources it needs to continue to field 
modernization and to continue to be a force to be reckoned 
with.
    Even as we focus sea and air resources to the Indo-Pacific, 
the Army will be relied upon to maintain a reliable presence 
around the world. With that in mind, I am interested in hearing 
about the Army's view of its mission globally as well as how 
the service is adjusting its operating concepts and force 
posture to support the National Defense Strategy (NDS) to 
include the Indo-Pacific.
    To remain competitive with China and Russia we must 
continue to invest in cutting-edge technologies that will 
define future battlefields across all domains.
    The Army specifically has been pursuing modernization in 
key areas like long-range fires, air defense, vertical lift, 
and deep sensing, among others. These are ambitious and 
farsighted objectives.
    I am particularly encouraged by the Army's announcement 
yesterday of the creation of a new cross functional team 
focused on contested logistics. This team, under the direction 
of Army Futures Command, will address the need for more 
resilient and agile logistics in dangerous environments like 
the Indo-Pacific.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, I would ask you 
update the Committee on the Army's modernization efforts and 
what resources are needed to effectively continue them.
    As I mentioned, the Army's most valuable asset has always 
been its people. I am pleased to see this budget request placed 
as a priority on taking care of our soldiers and Army civilians 
by providing an across the board pay raise of 5.2 percent and 
investing in barracks improvements.
    At the same time, the Army is struggling to recruit new 
soldiers. Last year, the service fell far short of its 
recruiting goals and the same appears likely this year.
    There are a number of factors contributing to this 
challenging recruiting environment, including low national 
unemployment rates, lingering problems from COVID-19, and 
historically low numbers of Americans eligible for or 
interested in military service.
    I understand the Army is conducting an overhaul of its 
recruiting and retention practices including the launch of a 
major new marketing campaign and an expansion of the Future 
Soldier Preparatory Course.
    I would ask for an update on how you plan to recruit a 
broader pool of potential recruits and grow back end strength 
in the coming years.
    Finally, the Army must continue to improve its readiness in 
the context of long-term strategic competition. The Army is 
focused on large training exercises including Defender Europe 
and Pacific Pathways, and its leadership in the Project 
Convergence series demonstrate a commitment to regional 
preparedness.
    These large-scale events not only test system capabilities, 
unit skills, and logistics resilience, they also facilitate 
experimentation and training with our allies, reflecting how we 
would fight in future operations.
    We are seeing the importance of efforts like this right now 
in Ukraine. I would ask for an update on how the Army is 
designing large-scale exercises to support its focus on our 
pacing threats, China and Russia.
    Again, I thank the witnesses for their participation today. 
I look forward to the testimoneys. Now let me recognize the 
Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
thank our witnesses for being here. I also join the Chairman in 
offering my condolences to the families of those killed at last 
night's training accident Fort Campbell.
    On this Committee we take the safety of our servicemembers 
seriously and will seek a clearer understanding of exactly what 
happened. I will also say that when it comes to the Army, the 
distinguished Chairman of this Committee knows whereof he 
speaks and I am fortunate to have him as a teammate.
    I want to also thank General McConville for his service to 
the United States. Since earning his commission from West Point 
in 1981 he has faithfully served his country as an Army aviator 
and as a general officer.
    I also want to recognize General McConville's family, as 
the Chairman has done, and I do not know if we have recognized 
the favorite family member, which I understand is his 
youngest--his grandson, Patton.
    No United States soldiers are fighting against Russia in 
its brutal invasion of Ukraine. This is Ukraine's fight and it 
is fighting well and valiantly. Even though no United States 
troops are directly engaged in the fight, the United States 
Army is providing critical on-the-ground support for Ukraine. 
Thousands of United States soldiers are deployed to provide 
logistics to supply Ukraine's military. Thousands more are 
training Ukrainian military personnel, and the result is a 
significantly degraded Russian military, as Secretary Austin 
testified earlier, and that is a positive development.
    The lessons of Ukraine should be an example of our efforts 
in the Pacific. The Army is and will continue to be on the 
leading edge of efforts to rebalance our Western Pacific 
forces.
    United States Army Pacific, through Pacific Pathways and 
other engagements, has established significant relationships 
with allies and partners that promise to enable access and 
maneuvering capabilities across the theater.
    Further, the Army has successfully and rapidly pushed the 
envelope to rebuild our arsenal of democracy through 
significant capacity expansion, investments, and proposed 
multiyear contracts, though more work remains.
    The Army also has an important role to play in contested 
logistics and in providing more options for sensors and 
shooters to the joint force. I am heartened by the speed with 
which the Army has sought to reshape itself to provide 
deterrent value against the Chinese People's Liberation Army, 
but we should still do more to accelerate this effort.
    In particular, we should capitalize on the progress made on 
the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) and the Mid-Range 
Capability (MRC) weapon system. For next-generation combat 
vehicles platforms like the Optionally Manned Fighting Vehicle 
(OMFV) and the Armored Multi-purpose Vehicle (AMPV) may soon 
replace or reinforce their aging counterparts.
    I hope to hear more about these advancements and those in 
network, soldier lethality, future vertical lift (FVL), and air 
and mission missile defense. None of these achievements or 
capabilities would work without the dedicated soldiers of the 
United States Army and I join the Chairman in noting that we 
are in the front edge of a recruiting crisis.
    I would like an update on this year's recruiting goals and 
how the Army has changed its strategy to meet its recruitment 
and retention objectives.
    Along these lines, let me reiterate a position that I have 
had for several years now during the markup of the National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). I am strongly in favor of 
expanding the Junior ROTC [Reserve Officer Training Corp] and I 
do believe this is a valuable program not only for potential 
military members but principally for citizenship and public 
service in our young people.
    Then, sadly, I must mention the Biden administration's 
disservice to the Army in the fiscal year 2024 budget 
submission. In that regard, I associate myself with the remarks 
of the distinguished Chairman of this Committee.
    When accounting for inflation, this year's budget is about 
a 2 percent cut compared to last year. The impact of that cut 
is even more severe at a time when personnel expenses are 
rapidly increasing.
    Meanwhile, General McConville submitted a list of almost $2 
billion worth of unfunded priorities the Army needs, including 
support for partnership-building exercises in the Indo-Pacific, 
and I do appreciate those submissions because it informs this 
Committee.
    Further, the budget request fails to use multiyear 
procurement authority for critical missiles like Patriot 
Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket 
System (GMLRS). I am confident my colleagues on a bipartisan 
basis, again, will join me to correct this inadequate budget 
and ensure the Army has the right resources to confront the 
Nation's current and future challenges.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I think we share very many views 
along this and we look forward to hearing the testimony 
directly from these distinguished witnesses.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker, very much.
    Secretary Wormuth, please?

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CHRISTINE E. WORMUTH, SECRETARY OF 
                            THE ARMY

    Ms. Wormuth. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for your 
ongoing support as we continue to build the Army of 2030, and 
thank you for your comments and thoughts and prayers for the 
families of our soldiers who were killed in the crash. Our 
hearts go out to them. It is a heavy day for the Army, I would 
say, in that regard.
    We are pleased to appear before you today. I am, as you 
noted, joined by General McConville and want to thank him for 
his years of service and leadership of our Army. I am grateful 
to work with him every day. We have accomplished a lot this 
year but we have a lot of work ahead of us.
    We remain focused on our three key priorities--people, 
modernization, and readiness. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
allows us to support the National Defense Strategy, to provide 
ready forces to the combatant commanders, and to take care of 
our people.
    By investing over $39 billion in procurement and RDT&E 
[Research and Development Test and Evaluation], we are 
maintaining our momentum on our modernization programs and we 
are, largely, on track to bring 24 systems into the hands of 
soldiers and across the finish line in fiscal year 2023.
    This is a big year for long-range precision fires. 
Prototypes of the precision strike missile, the mid-range 
capability and the long-range hypersonic weapon will be in the 
hands of soldiers this fiscal year.
    It is also a big year for next-generation combat vehicles. 
Mobile protected firepower is in production and Armoured Multi 
Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) is also being fielded, and it is a big 
year for our integrated air and missile defenses and the future 
vertical lift program as well.
    As we shift from 2 decades of counterinsurgency and 
counterterrorism operations to large-scale combat operations we 
are also transforming our force structure. We are going to need 
to adapt our force structure to make room for things like the 
multi-domain task forces as well as other new units like the 
indirect fire protection capability and our M-SHORAD 
battalions.
    We are a ready Army and we continue to emphasize readiness 
in everything we do. We are funding 22 Combat Training Center 
rotations this year.
    We have a robust exercise program and we are implementing 
our new readiness model, which lets us balance modernization, 
training, and ongoing missions. We are also investing in Army 
prepositioned stocks, which have been key in everything that 
has been going on in Europe and will serve us well in other 
theaters as well.
    To assist Ukraine in fighting Russia the Army has provided 
over $20 billion of lethal assistance including a wide range of 
munitions, radars, combat vehicles, and other things, and one 
of the most important lessons we have learned from Ukraine is 
the need for a more robust Defense Industrial Base. In our 
budget this year we have $1.5 billion to invest in our 
arsenals, ammo plants, and depots.
    We are also working very closely with our partners in 
industry to increase munitions production so that we can 
continue to help the Ukrainians but also, very importantly, to 
replenish our own stocks, and even as our soldiers provide 
lethal assistance and train Ukrainian soldiers we are not 
taking our eye off the pacing challenge of China.
    United States Indo Pacific Command (INDOPACOM) may be a 
theater named after two oceans but the Army has an important 
role to play there. The best way to avoid fighting a war is to 
show that you can win any war you might have to fight.
    The Army is contributing to strengthening deterrence in 
INDOPACOM every day as we campaign in the region through our 
exercises and partnerships, and if deterrence fails the Army 
will be a key player on the joint force team in the event of a 
conflict.
    As important as it is to build new weapon systems and 
maintain our readiness, people are the strength of our Army. 
This budget increases soldier and Department of Army civilian 
pay by 5.2 percent and funds important quality of life 
improvements like family housing, barracks, childcare 
initiatives, and other important programs.
    We also, of course, want to build cohesive teams of 
soldiers that are trained, disciplined, and fit. So the Army is 
committed to building positive command climates across the 
force so our soldiers can be everything they can be.
    Since appearing before you last year, we have taken steps 
to build out a prevention workforce that will help us in our 
efforts to reduce harmful behaviors across the Army, which in 
turn will help us with recruiting and retention.
    We are also continuing to strive to prevent suicide in our 
ranks. Suicide is a national challenge, but we have to do 
everything we can to reduce suicide in the Army. So we are 
pursuing a range of initiatives to help our soldiers be more 
resilient.
    One of the most important things we can do is to make sure 
that we have engaged leaders at every level who know their 
soldiers and make sure that their soldiers know their leaders 
and are connected to their buddies and families.
    Our Army is the greatest army in the world, but if we are 
going to keep it that way we must solve our recruiting 
challenge. The difficult recruiting landscape we face did not 
appear in 1 year and it is going to take us more than a year to 
solve it.
    But we are laser focused on this challenge and we are not 
going to lower our standards to solve the problem. The whole 
Army leadership is adapting and changing how we are recruiting.
    We are generating positive momentum from initiatives like 
our Future Soldier Prepatory Course, our Soldier Referral 
Program, and our new advertising campaign ``Be all you can 
be.''
    Our efforts are geared toward doing one thing, 
reintroducing the Army to the American public and inspiring a 
renewed call to service. We very much need your help to be 
successful in this effort.
    I am proud of all that our soldiers do to protect our 
country every day, and I look forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Madam Secretary.
    General McConville, please?

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL JAMES C. McCONVILLE, USA, CHIEF OF STAFF 
                          OF THE ARMY

    General McConville. Thank you, Secretary, for your 
leadership.
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, distinguished Members 
of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to be here 
today.
    Before I start, I would like to express my sincere 
condolences to the families of the crews, the MEDEVAC 
helicopters from 101st, who are being informed today of their 
loss. They served our country proudly and I'm very, very proud 
to serve with them, and they remain in our thoughts and prayers 
as we go out throughout the day.
    The United States exists for one purpose and that is to 
protect the Nation by being ready to fight and win our Nation's 
wars as a member of the joint force, and we have hundreds of 
thousands of soldiers training every single day around the 
world to make that happen, just like those MEDEVAC pilots.
    To do this, the Army has three clear priorities--people, 
readiness, and modernization, or, in other words, future 
readiness. We have remained aggressively committed to these 
priorities while answering the Nation's call during every 
crisis and every challenge.
    This year, the Army continues to undergo its greatest 
transformation in almost 50 years and we are delivering on 
modernization because we have been consistent and we have been 
persistent on our modernization priorities.
    Last year, we officially updated our capstone warfighting 
doctrine to Multi-Domain Operations (MDO), which incorporates 
emerging lessons from Ukraine. We continue to stand up new 
organizations to support our new doctrine. Last June we 
reactivated the historic 11th Airborne Division in Alaska.
    In September, we stood up the third of the five Multi-
Domain Task Forces (MDTFs). As the Secretary noted, we are on 
track for 24 signature weapon systems in 2023.
    But at the end of the day, we must get the right people in 
the right place in order for any of these initiatives to be 
successful. That is why people remain the Army's number-one 
priority.
    We want every young person, every parent, to know that 
service in the Army is a pathway to success both in and out of 
uniform. Whether you serve for 4 years or 40 years, the Army 
offers endless possibilities.
    We are not a profession of arms but a profession of 
professions. You can be whatever you want to be in United 
States Army. In fact, you can be all you can be.
    I am often asked how people can help us and my answer is 
inspire young men and women to serve, because when we get the 
call we go with the Army we have. The Army we have is the 
world's greatest fighting force because we serve with the 
world's greatest soldiers.
    With your continued support we are going to keep it that 
way. I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of The Honorable Christine E. 
Wormuth and General James C. McConville follows:]

  Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Christine E. Wormuth and 
                      General James C. McConville
                        enduring army priorities
    For nearly 248 years, the United States Army has dedicated itself 
to fighting and winning the Nation's wars. As old threats evolve and 
new ones emerge, the Army is making decisions and prioritizing 
investments that not only contribute to current readiness but will also 
pay dividends on the battlefields of 2030 and beyond. That is why we 
are especially grateful to Congress for providing the funding necessary 
to produce highly trained and lethal forces ready to meet an array of 
challenges at home and abroad. Our ability to maintain continuity 
through crisis is a testament to our solemn commitment to the Army's 
three enduring priorities: people, readiness, and modernization. The 
Army's Budget Request for fiscal year 2024 of $185.5 billion supports 
these priorities and will enable us to deliver the Army of 2030 in 
support of the National Defense Strategy.
                         ready to fight and win
    America's Army exists to protect the Nation by fighting and winning 
our wars as a member of the Joint Force. There is nothing more 
reassuring, and no greater deterrent, than American soldiers on the 
ground, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with our Allies and partners.
    Linchpin of the Joint Force in the Indo-Pacific. From Washington 
and Alaska, to Hawai.i and Guam, to Japan and South Korea, there are 
currently 71,000 soldiers serving in the Indo-Pacific theater. The 
Indo-Pacific is not just an air and maritime theater, but a joint 
theater with joint problems that require joint solutions. The Army is 
the linchpin Service, enabling and sustaining our joint and Allied 
partners. Our fundamental goal is to deter conflict in the region. 
Thus, the best way to avoid fighting a war is to make it very clear 
that the Joint Force, in concert with our Allies and partners, can and 
will win such a war. To that strategic end, the Army contributes to 
deterrence by campaigning, which plays three important functions in the 
Indo-Pacific: complicating Chinese decisionmaking; enhancing U.S. 
access to the region; and placing combat-credible and interoperable 
land forces forward to create interior lines for the Joint Force.
    This year is going to be one of historic modernization for our 
force posture in the Indo-Pacific. We are working closely with our 
regional Allies and partners to secure greater operational access and 
basing arrangements in strategic locations to enable adversary-focused 
training and exercises. In terms of logistics, the 8th Theater 
Sustainment Command in Hawai.i will oversee the delivery of supplies, 
fuel, munitions, and activity sets for U.S. Army Pacific's (USARPAC) 
joint and multinational training and exercises. Strengthening our 
ability to operate across the theater requires not only logistics at 
scale, but also the resiliency to operate in contested environments.
    It has been a consequential year for the Army in the Indo-Pacific. 
USARPAC completed its inaugural iteration of Operation Pathways, 
representing the Theater Army's new posture paradigm to build and 
thicken Joint Force interior lines. This gives USARPAC the operational 
endurance to see, sense, and understand regional threats; sustain, 
protect, and command and control (C2) large-scale operations; and 
conduct maneuver and fires. USARPAC demonstrated those capabilities by 
offloading APS afloat in support of exercise Salaknib in the 
Philippines. USARPAC, alongside our Indonesian partners, expanded 
exercise Super Garuda Shield from a modest bilateral venture to a major 
regional undertaking with 14 partner nations and 4,000 combined forces. 
Next, we established the Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center, 
bringing the first combat training center to the Indo-Pacific with 
inaugural rotations at our Hawai.i and Alaska campuses, along with an 
exportable capability we employed in Indonesia.
    Capitalizing on that momentum, the 5th Security Forces Assistance 
Brigade (SFAB) persistently trained and advised 12 of our Allies and 
partners across the region. The Army also activated the 11th Airborne 
Division in Alaska--a unit with an historic Indo-Pacific lineage that 
provides our soldiers with a clear purpose, identity, and mission. As 
part of our Arctic Strategy, the 11th Airborne Division is being 
tailored as a rapidly deployable operational command headquarters. 
Finally, USARPAC initiated the Unified Pacific Wargame Series, offering 
key insights on Army capabilities, posture, and contested logistics for 
a protracted conflict in the Indo-Pacific. In October 2022, America's 
First Corps certified as a Joint Task Force as part of the Mission 
Command Training Program Warfighter Series, with participants from 
Washington, Hawai.i, Colorado, and Kansas. I Corps' experimentation 
with distributed C2 will enable commanders to present multiple dilemmas 
to a potential adversary. We also activated the third of five planned 
Multi-Domain Task Forces (MDTF), task-organized to provide anti-access, 
area-denial capabilities through long-range precision fires and 
effects. The 3d MDTF at Fort Shafter, Hawai.i joins the 1st MDTF at 
Joint Base Lewis McChord, Washington as the second MDTF supporting U.S. 
Indo-Pacific Command.
    Tip of the Joint Spear in Europe. Since Russia's unjust and 
unprovoked invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, the U.S. Army's 
tactical readiness and strategic readiness have been on full display 
across continental Europe. The 43,000 American soldiers in Europe 
underscore our ongoing commitment to the region, further bolstered by 
President Biden's force posture announcement at the NATO Summit last 
June. In Germany, we are forward stationing an air defense artillery 
brigade headquarters, a short-range air defense battalion, a combat 
sustainment support battalion headquarters, and an engineer brigade 
headquarters. In Italy, we are forward stationing a short-range air 
defense battery. In Poland, the Army has forward-stationed the V Corps 
Headquarters Forward Command Post--the first permanent U.S. forces on 
NATO's eastern flank. We are maintaining a substantial rotational force 
in Poland, including an Armored Brigade Combat Team (ABCT), combat 
aviation brigade, and a division headquarters. In Romania, we have 
headquartered a rotational brigade combat team, supporting an 
additional maneuver force on the eastern flank. In the Baltics, we have 
enhanced our rotational deployments--which include armored, aviation, 
air defense, and special operations forces--to reinforce Baltic 
security, enhance interoperability, and demonstrate the flexibility and 
combat readiness of U.S. forces.
    We have been able to demonstrate our steadfast support to NATO 
thanks to years of investments in setting the European theater, where 
we continue to invest in and modernize a robust set of Army 
Prepositioned Stocks (APS). Importantly, we are moving some of our APS 
into Poland this year to reinforce NATO's eastern flank. We are also 
leveraging NATO Common Funding to build a new equipment complex in 
Poland to house, maintain, and issue an ABCT equipment set. The XVIII 
Airborne Corps--America's Strategic Response Force--similarly 
highlighted the Army's investments in rapid power-projection 
capabilities. The XVIII Airborne Corps' 9-month deployment to 
Wiesbaden, Germany built upon years of cooperation with the Ukrainian 
military, providing the training and support required to aid the heroic 
defense of their homeland. These investments in strategic readiness 
would not have been possible without congressional foresight and 
support. This is especially true for the European Deterrence Initiative 
(EDI). Total EDI funding for the Army in fiscal year 2023 is $2.8 
billion to support 9,800 rotational Army forces in Europe, and enhance 
our forward posture, training, and interoperability.
    The United States remains committed to supporting Ukraine's near-
term combat needs and its long-term defense requirements against future 
Russian aggression. The Department of Defense (DOD) has established 
Security Assistance Group--Ukraine (SAG-U), commanded by an Army three-
star general under U.S. European Command, in Wiesbaden, Germany. SAG-U 
is purpose-built to execute the full range of our security assistance 
activities in a more efficient and sustainable manner. SAG-U will reach 
full operational capability in Q3 fiscal year 2023. The lessons we 
observe in Ukraine underscore our Army's greatest strengths: combined 
arms maneuver at scale; the importance of empowered leadership through 
mission command; and the immeasurable value of a professionalized Non-
Commissioned Officer Corps.
    The Army continues to supply critical weapon systems, equipment, 
and munitions to Ukraine, including Stinger anti-aircraft systems, 
Javelin anti-armor systems, 155mm artillery rounds, and other items. We 
have provided billions of dollars of Army materiel to Ukraine through 
the Presidential Drawdown Authority. We are also working to execute 
billions in procurements for Ukraine through the Ukraine Security 
Assistance Initiative.
    The Army will initiate multi-year procurement contracts for 
artillery rounds and artillery charges in fiscal year 2023. For fiscal 
year 2024, the Army will work with Congress to explore additional 
multi-year procurement contract opportunities for critical munitions. 
In addition to these potential multi-year contract efforts, the request 
includes additional funding for a range of munitions, including Javelin 
and Stinger missiles, and artillery, combat-vehicle, and small-arms 
ammunition.
    We were able to fill critical gaps in Ukraine's defense thanks to 
our comprehensive modernization initiatives, but we must be able to 
replenish these stocks. Russia's war in Ukraine is further highlighting 
lessons from the pandemic that military readiness depends upon a robust 
and modern Organic and Defense Industrial Base. The Army is working 
closely with the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) and our 
industry partners to rapidly increase production capacity and transform 
our processes from vulnerable supply chains to a more resilient supply 
fabric.
    Readiness is our most effective form of deterrence. The best way to 
win without fighting is by demonstrating our ability to win decisively 
by fighting. Forward deployed combat capability, prepositioned stocks, 
and a resilient sustainment infrastructure will be key to future 
deterrence. One of the many ways we showcase our combat-credible forces 
in Europe is through DEFENDER-Europe, the Army's annual joint and 
multinational exercise series. Last year, concurrent with our support 
to Ukraine, and alongside our NATO Allies, DEFENDER-Europe 22 stretched 
across nine European countries, featuring 3,450 American troops and 
5,200 multinational servicemembers from 11 Allied nations. DEFENDER-
Europe 23 will include over 7,800 U.S. troops, training alongside 
15,000 multinational forces from 26 Allied and partner nations. 
National Guard units from 10 U.S. states will also participate, marking 
the 30th anniversary of the National Guard State Partnership Program.
                      delivering the army of 2030
    The Army continues to progress through our greatest transformation 
in almost half a century. Fifty years ago, Army senior leaders closely 
observed the 1973 Arab-Israeli War and incorporated its lessons into 
the emerging AirLand Battle doctrine, the creation of new Army 
organizations, and the development of the ``Big 5'' weapons systems. 
Today, we are not only supporting Ukraine but paying close attention to 
the characteristics of modern warfare as they unfold, and incorporating 
those lessons into new doctrine, organizations, training, and materiel. 
Last October, the Army officially adopted Multi-Domain Operations (MDO) 
as our official capstone doctrine, the most significant shift in 
warfighting doctrine since AirLand Battle. MDO acknowledges that the 
Army of 2030 will be contested in every domain--air, land, sea, space, 
and cyberspace. Our soldiers must be ready to fight and win in multiple 
domains simultaneously to get from fort to foxhole in a contested 
environment.
    The Army has been consistent and persistent in pursuing our 
modernization initiatives as we work to deliver the Army of 2030 and 
design the Army of 2040. We remain aggressively committed to our six 
modernization portfolios--long-range precision fires, next generation 
combat vehicle, future vertical lift, the network, air and missile 
defense, and solider lethality--and are on track to deliver 24 new 
systems into the hands of soldiers by the end of fiscal year 2023. That 
includes eight fielded systems, six systems issued for testing, and ten 
systems undergoing soldier touchpoints. Our annual Army Futures 
Command-hosted experiment, Project Convergence, continues to evolve and 
expand from the Army-centric inaugural event in 2020 to last fall's 
combined, joint series of experiments with the entire Joint Force, the 
United Kingdom, and Australia.
    To succeed on the future battlefield and continue to dominate the 
land domain, there are six operational imperatives the Army of 2030 
must do. First, we need to see and sense more, farther, and more 
persistently at every echelon than our enemies. That is why we are 
modernizing our aerial intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance 
capabilities, to include the Multi-Domain Sensing System, Terrestrial 
Layer System, and the Tactical Intelligence Targeting Access Node, or 
TITAN.
    Second, we have to concentrate highly lethal, low signature combat 
forces rapidly from dispersed locations to overwhelm adversaries at a 
time and place of our choosing. To do this, we are investing in a 
faster, more survivable armored fist. Upgraded tanks and Bradleys will 
be joined by Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicles, or AMPVs, which are 
already in production. The Mobile Protective Firepower System, which 
was just awarded for production, will provide greater protection to 
infantry forces without sacrificing speed or mobility.
    Third, we must win the fires fight by delivering precise, longer-
range fires as part of the Joint Force to strike deep targets and 
massing enemy forces. Since 2016, the Army has invested significantly 
in fire support systems, and we have made long-range precision fires a 
top modernization priority. We are working tirelessly to ensure that we 
have multiple options to service targets at ranges from 40 miles 
(Extended Range Cannon Artillery) to over 1,700 miles (Long-Range 
Hypersonic Weapon).
    Fourth, we need to protect our forces from air, missile, and drone 
attacks. We are continuing to field Maneuver Short-Range Air Defense, 
or M-SHORAD, to protect our maneuver forces against a wide range of air 
threats. The Army is also developing an enduring Indirect Fire 
Protection Capability, or IFPC, that will work together with the Army's 
Integrated Air and Missile Defense Battle Command System to provide an 
unparalleled ability to identify, track, and defeat aerial threats. 
Current events also highlight the proliferation and significance of 
enemy Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS). To address this threat, we are 
investing in counter-UAS division sets that place fixed, semi-fixed, 
mobile, and portable counter-UAS capabilities in the hands of our 
maneuver forces.
    Fifth, we must rapidly and reliably communicate and share data not 
just with ourselves, but with our Sister Services, and Allies and 
partners. The Army has demonstrated how to rapidly combine targeting 
data from our joint teammates and pass that information to the correct 
Army fires element--reducing the targeting cycle to mere minutes. The 
Integrated Tactical Network architecture, in fielding now, enhances 
classified data transfer with both better network bandwidth efficiency 
and resilient relay links to ensure persistent connectivity for our 
warfighters.
    Finally, we must sustain the fight across contested terrain for 
both short, sharp operations as well as for protracted conflict. This 
will require not only standard equipment, like field kitchens, fuelers, 
and trucks, but also the niche, often overlooked capabilities like Army 
watercraft and Joint Logistics Over-the-Shore, or JLOTS. Sustainment 
must be at the forefront of our planning, preparation, and training--
not something that we can assume will always be readily available. Army 
logisticians are the best in the world, and they are up to the task.
          people are our greatest strength and first priority
    Recruiting Initiatives. We are experiencing the most challenging 
recruiting landscape in a generation. There is no one-size-fits-all 
solution. Nevertheless, we are committed to tackling these problems 
head on by recruiting a force that looks like the Nation it serves. All 
our recruiting initiatives will be informed by first principles: 1) we 
will not sacrifice quality for quantity; 2) we will not lower our 
standards; and 3) we will invest in America's young people so they can 
meet our standards. The Regular Army Accessions Mission for fiscal year 
2023 is 65,500. While we are singularly focused on meeting this 
mission, we need help from community leaders, parents, educators, 
coaches, and influencers to inspire young people to serve.
    The Army is implementing several important changes to improve 
organizational understanding, recruiter management, regional awareness, 
marketing, and applicant eligibility. First, we established the Army 
Recruiting Task Force, under the direction of a two-star general, to 
examine the current State of the Army's recruiting enterprise and to 
make recommendations to Army senior leaders for action. Second, we are 
overhauling how the Army recruits by selecting recruiters differently, 
improving recruiter training, increasing recruiter resources, and 
creating new incentives for high-performing recruiters. For instance, 
the Army recently launched a ``Recruiting Scholars'' program to 
identify, incentivize, and send top-notch captains to graduate school 
after completing a recruiting-company command. There are 21 talented 
captains in the first cohort.
    Next, the Army designated 15 major cities as priority markets for 
fiscal year 2023. With help from community partners, including Veterans 
Service Organizations, Military Support Organizations, and our Soldiers 
for Life, we are saturating these markets with activities and 
initiatives to maximize awareness regarding the benefits of Army 
service. Fourth, we established the Future Soldier Preparatory Course 
(FSPC) pilot program in July 2022 at Fort Jackson, South Carolina to 
support the accession of recruits who are inclined to serve but might 
need help improving their test scores or physical fitness. As of March 
22, 2023, 4,219 FSPC recruits have graduated and moved on to Basic 
Combat Training (BCT). This represents a 98 percent success rate. FSPC 
recruits improved their Armed Forces Qualification Test score by an 
average of 18.5 points. Similarly, 97.6 percent of FSPC recruits 
achieved the Army's accessions body composition standards. Most 
importantly, FSPC graduates are performing very well in BCT with just a 
4.8 percent attrition rate, as compared to the average BCT attrition 
rate of 6.1 percent in 2022.
    Be All You Can Be. On March 8, 2023, the Army officially 
reintroduced ``Be All You Can Be'' as our marketing slogan. ``Be All 
You Can Be'' featured prominently in Army advertisements and marketing 
materials from 1981 to 2001. After a two-decade hiatus, we are excited 
to introduce ``Be All You Can Be'' to a new generation of young people. 
The Army Enterprise Marketing Office hosted numerous in-person focus 
groups and tested ``Be All You Can Be'' against 18 other taglines, 
eventually surveying 20,000 people across five target audiences: 
prospects, soldiers, veterans, influencers, and engaged citizens. Our 
extensive market research revealed that the ``Be All You Can Be'' 
slogan, once popular with Generation X, resonates with Generation Z by 
signaling a sense of purpose, passion, possibility, community, and 
connection unique to the Army. With support from Congress, the Army 
will spend $116.7 million in fiscal year 2023 to launch this rebranding 
campaign across multiple media platforms. Additionally, we believe that 
the ``Be All You Can Be'' narrative will help veterans and retirees 
tell their Army stories and inspire a new generation of young people 
toward military service.
    Quality of Life. Recruiting and retaining the next generation of 
the All-Volunteer Force requires sustained investment and quality-of-
life improvements in Army housing, barracks, child care, spouse 
employment, health care, and the exceptional family member program.
    High-quality housing and barracks are key to ensuring overall 
health and wellness, thereby contributing to readiness and critical for 
retaining Army soldiers and their families. First, the Army supports 
DOD's continuous assessment of Basic Allowance for Housing (BAH) rates, 
ensuring military paychecks keep pace with market conditions across the 
country. Average BAH rates have increased 12.1 percent since 2022. 
Personnel in 291 of 300 military housing areas received a BAH rate 
increase. Second, privatized housing companies began a 6-year, $3-
billion investment plan in 2020 to improve the Army's housing 
inventory, to include new builds and major or medium renovations 
through 2026. The Army has programmed $1.6 billion for fiscal years 
2024 to 2028 to improve the government-owned Army Family Housing 
inventory. Third, the Army historically invests an average of $1 
billion per year in barracks for construction, restoration, and 
modernization across all three Army components. In fiscal year 2024, 
the Army is requesting support for permanent-party barracks in Fort 
Wainwright, Alaska; Joint Base Lewis McChord, Washington; Fort Bragg, 
North Carolina; and Natick Soldier Systems Center, Massachusetts. 
Importantly, Army senior leaders remain vigilant in their housing and 
barracks oversight responsibilities.
    With congressional support, the Army has expanded on-and off-post 
child-care options by increasing staff compensation and benefits, 
investing in facilities, growing family child care, and extending care 
hours. Entry level salaries are now $17.39 per hour. We are offering 
recruiting and retention bonuses for child-care staff and providing 
them with a 50 percent child-care discount for the first child and a 15 
percent multiple-child discount for additional children. In terms of 
off-post care options, we continue to provide Army Fee Assistance to 
approximately 10,000 children of the Active and Reserve component per 
month, all while exploring new initiatives and partnerships. We also 
increased the provider rate cap to $1,700 per month, thereby reducing 
out-of-pocket expenses for hard-working Army families. Since fiscal 
year 2021, Congress has funded seven new Child Development Centers 
(CDCs) in Alaska, Hawai.i (2), Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, and 
Louisiana. The Army is planning to fund more CDCs in the out years.
    Army spouses--over 431,000 across all three components--play an 
important role in soldier and family readiness and soldier retention. 
Leveraging both Army and DOD programs, and partnerships with other 
Federal and non-governmental organizations, we remain committed to 
improving spouse employment and career opportunities. When spouses are 
satisfied with their careers, employment options, access to services, 
and overall quality-of-life, they are far more likely to support their 
soldier's continued service.
    There are 46,000 Active component soldiers--9 percent of the 
force--with family members enrolled in the Exceptional Family Member 
Program (EFMP), totaling 55,000 family members. We are committed to 
reforming the EFMP and to providing comprehensive and all-inclusive 
support to Army families with a family member with a qualifying 
condition. In August 2022, we launched the Enterprise EFMP system to 
improve enrollment, transparency, assignment coordination, and access 
to support. We have also created a centralized EFMP office within the 
Headquarters, Department of the Army to coordinate healthcare services, 
reassignment processes, and education support services. Taken together, 
these initiatives will help reduce the bureaucratic burden on Army 
families. Moreover, the Army continues its close partnership with the 
Defense Health Agency to ensure access to high-quality healthcare for 
our soldiers and their families.
    Reducing Harmful Behaviors. People are the Army's number one 
priority. We take care of our people by building cohesive teams that 
are highly trained, disciplined, and fit, that are ready to fight and 
win, and where each person is treated with dignity and respect. Leaders 
across the Total Army are steadfastly committed to reducing the harmful 
behaviors that break trust with our soldiers and the American people--
including sexual assault and harassment, acts of extremism, and racism, 
among others. To reduce harmful behaviors, we are shifting the paradigm 
from focusing on intervention and response to prioritizing integrated 
prevention activities. Integrated prevention activities address the 
conditions that lead to harm by reducing risk factors and increasing 
protective measures to preclude harmful behaviors. To that end, we are 
aggressively implementing the fiscal year 2022 Independent Review 
Commission's recommendations to counter sexual assault and sexual 
harassment within our formations, to include realigning Sexual Assault 
Response Coordinators (SARCs) and Victim Advocates from the operational 
chain of command to the Lead SARC at each installation. This 
independent reporting structure will enable Sexual Harassment/Assault 
Response and Prevention, or SHARP, professionals to advocate for 
victims more effectively.
    The Army is committed to working with Congress and the OSD to 
effectively implement the military justice reforms directed by the 
fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization 
Acts. In July 2022, the Army issued a General Order establishing the 
Office of the Special Trial Counsel (OSTC) as a field operating agency. 
The Senate confirmed our nominee for Lead Special Trial Counsel in 
November 2022 and set his subsequent promotion to brigadier general in 
January 2023. The Army expects the OSTC to reach full operational 
capability by December 27, 2023, as required by law.
    Every single suicide is one tragedy too many. Exposure to harmful 
behaviors, such as sexual assault, harassment, or other acts of 
violence, may increase the risk of suicide. The Army is committed to 
supporting those exposed to harmful behaviors and doing everything we 
can to address this critical issue. Fortunately, we saw significant 
decreases in suicide across all Army components in 2022. The Army is 
leveraging a new public health approach to prevent and respond to 
suicide at the individual and community levels. We will publish a 
comprehensive suicide prevention regulation to define this new approach 
for the force by the end of Q3 fiscal year 2023. Army leaders continue 
to employ the Health Readiness and Suicide Risk Reduction Tool across 
our formations. Last year, we introduced the ``Stories of Hope'' 
podcast to raise awareness, reduce stigmas, and increase help-seeking 
behaviors.
                  50 years of the all-volunteer force
    As we commemorate 50 years of the All-Volunteer Force, it has never 
been more important to recruit and retain the talented individuals who 
make our Army the world's greatest fighting force. We win through our 
people--our Active Duty, Guard, and Reserve soldiers; our families; 
Army civilians; and our veterans and retired Soldiers for Life. We need 
every American to know that the U.S. Army is an organization of endless 
possibilities that provides a pathway to success both in and out of 
uniform. Our message is clear: if you want to serve something greater 
than yourself, if you want to belong to the world's greatest team, if 
you want to BE ALL YOU CAN BE, then join us. With the limitless talent 
our Nation has to offer and continued support from Congress, we will 
remain ready to fight and win, against any adversary, anywhere in the 
world.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General McConville.
    Secretary Wormuth, our munitions situation has come into 
very, very sort of focused and graphic dimensions with the 
Ukrainian fight. Not only do we have to continue to supply the 
Ukrainians, we also have to replenish our supplies.
    So what obstacles are in your way to do that and what 
should we do as a Congress to assist you?
    Ms. Wormuth. I think, Senator, the biggest obstacle--there 
are perhaps two obstacles but let me first say I think we are 
buying at the absolute edge of defense industrial capacity 
right now and we are really working to expand that capacity in 
real time, and that is why you see us investing $1.5 billion in 
our own organic industrial base so the ammo plants, for 
example, at Scranton that build 155mm shell casings we are 
investing in that plant to increase its production capacity, 
and we have done a lot with industry, as I said.
    The multi-year procurement authorities that we have been 
given are very, very helpful and that is one thing that I think 
is helping us quite a bit.
    The biggest obstacles, really, are twofold, I would say. 
One, some of the machining tools that are needed to open up new 
production lines are just very large, complex machines 
themselves and take time to fabricate and time to install, and 
there is just a limit to what we can do to compress that 
timeframe.
    Then the other issue is, of course, some of the fragility 
in the supply chain that we have seen throughout the pandemic 
and we are, again, working very closely with our defense 
industry partners to try to help them strengthen those supply 
chains wherever we can.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Secretary.
    General McConville, we are at an unfortunate impasse in 
efficiently nominating and confirming general officers and flag 
officers. Can you tell us what the real-world effect of this 
is, unit readiness but also, I think, morale and the personal 
decisions of families about whether they are going to stay in 
the service or depart?
    General McConville. Senator, right now at the Senate we 
have three three-star generals. One is the space missile 
commander and the G-4 and also our Assistant Secretary of the 
Army Acquisition, Logistics and Technology (ASALT) and there is 
also 37 other one-star generals.
    The impact is probably most felt in some ways on the 
families and the kids. Even though it looks like it is only 40 
generals, there are probably four or five other transitions 
that have to happen so as someone moves up, someone moves, and 
works their way through.
    So what it really does it affects the families and some of 
the kids. They are trying to figure out where they are going to 
go to school, when they are going to move, and all those things 
kind of come in to the readiness of the force.
    As you know, we have some major transitions coming up this 
summer, and we talked about--I am going to retire by law and 
that is going to be in August and so there will be a 
replacement that will go through the process.
    But with every--at this level there are probably eight 
moves we made. There will be a promotion to the chief, whoever 
that person becomes. All those jobs are going to have to 
change.
    All those officers have families and kids that are going to 
be affected, and anything we can do to help smooth those 
transitions will put us in a much better position for 
readiness.
    Chairman Reed. I think there is another aspect here, too, 
is that we have some extraordinary talented--in fact, I would 
say they are all extraordinarily talented--the senior officers 
and even captains and majors who could walk out the door 
tomorrow and command million-dollar salaries as crypto 
specialists, et cetera.
    Is that a dynamic, too, that is being affected?
    General McConville. Well, I hope not. Most officers do not 
do it for the pay. If you take a look at the one-star pay, it 
is $180,000. People go, that is a lot of money. But most of 
these folks are sitting with 30 years in so actually it is a 
net of about 45. They make--they do these jobs for $45,000 a 
year and generals do it for nothing because we are at 40 
percent in those type things.
    But people do not do it for the money. I think they do it 
for the respect, and so I think that is very, very important 
that we actually take a look at what they do. These general 
officers and these leaders that are coming up in the Army are 
the best I have ever seen.
    I have been doing this for a long time. I have seen a lot 
of generals. They are all combat proven. Their families have 
been through 20 years of continuous combat. They are the best I 
have ever seen and I would ask that we do all we can to get 
them confirmed.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. My time is 
rapidly diminishing and just let me commend Madam Secretary, 
you and General McConville for, again, looking at this 
contested logistics cross-functional team.
    Napoleon, I think, said an army moves on its stomach, and 
in the Pacific, particularly, we might be able to produce the 
ammunition, but if we cannot get it to the front lines, we will 
not prevail.
    With that, and I will try to be--I will stop now and, 
again, thank you.
    Senator Wicker, please?
    Senator Wicker. It is hard to stop, is it not, Mr. 
Chairman?
    Let us talk about unfunded priorities, General McConville 
and Madam Secretary.
    The Army budget request includes investments to support 
prototyping for the long-range hypersonic missile flight test, 
the mid-range capability missile, initial fielding of the 
precision strike missile, both the mid-range capability (MRC) 
and PrSM, our own INDOPACOM commanders' unfunded priorities 
list.
    So I want to ask you to talk about that. And also the 
commander's unfunded priorities list includes $377 million for 
Army campaigning. Tell us, and we will, first, General 
McConville, do you agree that expanding the Pacific Pathways 
program gives us more deterrence in the Indo-Pacific and would 
you discuss, please, specifically those unfunded priorities?
    General McConville. Yes. I think it is very important that 
we continue campaigning in the Indo-Pacific. That is how we 
build strong allies and partners and relationships, and those 
are very important in any future conflict.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, do you have any idea why they were 
not funded? Did this come down from Office of Management and 
Budget (OMB)?
    Secretary Wormuth, would you comment on that?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator Wicker, we have funding in our base 
budget for Operation Pacific Pathways. I do not have the number 
off the top of my head but it is, I think, over $100 million 
for Pacific Pathways.
    I think the unfunded list that you are referring to is the 
INDOPACOM commanders' unfunded priority list.
    Senator Wicker. Indeed, yes, that is my question.
    Ms. Wormuth. I have no doubt that Admiral Aquilino would 
like to see more invested in both exercises and weapon systems. 
He is very focused on his theater.
    We in the Army have to balance across all of our 
requirements across the European theater or across the 
INDOPACOM theater. We have got to be able to invest 
sufficiently in our modernization systems and take care of our 
people.
    We have invested in Pacific Pathways. We are investing in 
modernization of the precision strike missile, the mid-range 
capability.
    I just suspect that Admiral Aquilino would like to see us 
do more but again----
    Senator Wicker. Well, would you like to see us do more? If 
we found the extra money that would be advantageous for 
national security in the Indo-Pacific, would it not?
    Ms. Wormuth. Certainly, if Congress were to give the Army 
more money I think we would look at investments in the 
INDOPACOM region, yes.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Now, let us talk about recruiting, 
and I think, General McConville, you mentioned inspiring young 
people and, of course, you have inspired the next generation of 
McConvilles to do this.
    Secretary Wormuth, you are married, I believe, to a retired 
naval officer.
    It occurs to me that with base closures and the shrinking 
military presence around the country that there are fewer and 
fewer young Americans who actually grow up knowing members of 
the military and seeing them go off to work and having them as 
members of their families.
    Yes or no, General McConville, this is part of the problem, 
is it not?
    General McConville. I believe so. Eighty-three percent of 
the young men and women that come into the military come from a 
military family and that population with 1 percent serving is 
getting much smaller.
    Senator Wicker. Right. I have been a strong advocate for 
expanding high school JROTC since I became aware of a RAND 
Corporation study which basically sang the praises of JROTC as 
a subset of high achievers within a school.
    You could even have a poorly performing school but the 
subset of students there who are participating in JROTC stay in 
school longer, they graduate with higher grades, and they 
achieve better in life.
    I have never found a superintendent or principal who, when 
asked about JROTC, did not say they would like to have JROTC in 
their school or they are delighted that they have them.
    General McConville, if we went beyond what the DOD is 
asking in expanded JROTC in the high schools how helpful would 
that be?
    General McConville. What I know, Senator, is that 44 
percent of the young men and women that come into the military 
come from a high school that has JROTC and 10 percent of the 
high schools have JROTC, not necessarily in that, and I think 
what is really important is the structure and the exposure that 
they get.
    But more importantly is the instructors. We have got to 
make sure whoever the instructors are are of the quality they 
are going to help inspire young men and women to serve.
    Senator Wicker. Indeed, these are probably retired senior 
officers or retired senior enlisted persons who are very 
inspiring.
    General McConville. Many are, but it only takes one to not 
live up to that standard that can hurt the program. So I think 
it is extremely important we have strong vetting in place and 
make sure we have the right people leading these programs.
    Senator Wicker. And I agree with you there. Thank you very 
much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Gillibrand, please?
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Secretary Wormuth, in October you ordered inspections into 
toxic mold on military installations and found that over 2,000 
Army facilities have mold problems.
    I understand that the proposed budget for new barrack 
buildings would only pay for five new barracks buildings. How 
much does the Army need to remediate these mold issues or 
rebuild impacted facilities?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator.
    Yes, we found mold. We inspected 68,000 buildings and found 
mold in about 2,100, and we are investing $3.5 million to 
remediate the mold in those 2,100 building and we are going to 
continue to keep a very close eye on mold in the barracks.
    We are spending about a billion dollars a year across all 
three components--Active, Guard and Reserve--on barracks, both 
renovations and building new barracks, and we are going to 
continue to do that through 2030.
    The challenge we have, Senator, is just we have such an 
enormous inventory of barracks that we are not able to rebuild 
all of them in 1 to 2 years as we might like and still be able 
to, again, invest in new weapon systems and invest in other 
initiatives that we need to do. So we are trying to strike a 
balance.
    Senator Gillibrand. Are you doing any medical monitoring of 
the servicemembers who have been exposed to toxic mold?
    Ms. Wormuth. I think we probably need to do more there to 
make sure that we are tracking that. I know that there has been 
a DOD IG [Inspector General] report recently that touches on 
that.
    Senator Gillibrand. I would like you to submit an analysis 
about what you intend to do to make sure the servicemembers who 
have been exposed are healthy.
    Ms. Wormuth. Okay. Thank you.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Ms. Wormuth. Mold in housing, barracks, and other Army 
facilities can adversely affect the morale and health of 
soldiers and families, resulting in reduced readiness. To 
prevent this, U.S. Army Installation Management Command (IMCOM) 
is ensuring all mold-related work orders in Army facilities are 
addressed by a certified inspector within 24 hours. IMCOM also 
ensuring privatized housing companies similarly respond to work 
orders pertaining to mold.
    The Army developed recommendations for remediating indoor 
mold based on the industry standard for mold remediation.
    Trained IMCOM housing inspectors evaluate housing and 
barracks for health risks. These inspectors focus on areas 
where mold is suspected or indicated. All relevant data is 
documented in the DOD enterprise Military Housing (eMH) data 
base, including inspections and environmental health 
assessment, data and recommendations; maintenance and repair 
actions; tenant concerns; work order status; and information 
regarding potential environmental health exposures, the tenant 
potentially affected, and the status of the identified risk.
    Soldiers and family members are advised to consult their 
health care provider if they have health concerns about mold. 
Healthcare providers are prepared to fully evaluate patients 
presenting with symptoms of asthma, hypersensitivity 
pneumonitis, rhinitis, or rhinosinusitis, to include ordering 
any appropriate diagnostic tests. If an evaluation reveals that 
patient symptoms could be associated with damp housing 
conditions, healthcare providers will conduct a two-part 
interview to assist in determining whether a building 
assessment is justified (e.g., focus on moisture or fungal 
growth issues.)
    This integrated clinical and environmental approach helps 
determine if patient symptoms could be associated with damp 
housing conditions. Such a determination can trigger a home 
assessment and potential International Classification of 
Diseases (ICD-10) coding in the patient's electronic health 
record as contact and/or suspected exposure to mold.

    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    General McConville, I was deeply concerned to hear of 
Private Ana Basaldua Ruiz's death on Fort Hood earlier this 
month. Yet another young woman who was allegedly sexually 
harassed is now deceased.
    Can you discuss how the Army is progressing in building a 
prevention workforce and implementing the Independent Review 
Commission's recommendations to decrease the incidence of 
sexual harassment and how are you protecting your young 
servicemembers from these crimes?
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. Just like I said, parents 
send their sons and daughters to us. I have sent our sons and 
daughters to the Army and we have a sacred obligation to take 
care of them. Commanders will be held responsible.
    But it really comes down to from the bottom up, building 
cohesive teams where everyone takes care of each other, 
everyone treats everyone with dignity and respect. When that 
does not happen, we are going to investigate. We are going to 
hold those accountable that did it.
    But the Army's trying to really get after that. There is a 
lot of prevention for us getting--how do you get ahead of these 
type things, how do you make sure it comes back to readiness. 
Everyone has to be a valued member of the team. Everyone has to 
be treated with dignity and respect, and that is what our 
commanders are doing.
    Senator Gillibrand. So with regard to Fort Hood, the 
previous report said that the climate was so toxic that it was 
permissive for sexual assault and sexual harassment. What are 
you doing to address the climate at Fort Hood?
    General McConville. Well, we have. We changed out--from 
that report we actually took out 14 leaders, which has never 
been done in, really--at least I know in the history of the 
Army.
    But the leadership that is in place at Fort Hood I have 
tremendous confidence in. They are after this. They are on top 
of it. They are doing everything they can to get the 
investigation and get the information and they are working very 
closely with the family.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you.
    Secretary Wormuth, will you talk about the development of 
Multi-Domain Operations and how you have shifted personnel to 
ensure that Multi-Domain Task Forces are fully resourced? How 
has staffing for these roles been impacted by the Army failing 
to hit its recruitment goals by thousands of soldiers?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator.
    As you know, we now have three Multi-Domain Task Forces and 
we will eventually build a fourth and fifth Multi-Domain Task 
Force. They vary a little bit in size. They are tailor made to 
the theaters that they support and work in, and right now they 
are fully manned.
    I would expect that we will continue to make sure that they 
are fully manned even as we work through how we are going to 
deal with the Army getting slightly smaller and dealing with 
recruiting challenges.
    But they are very, very important because they bring 
capabilities that are kinetic through the long-range fires 
battalions but also very important nonkinetic work. They work 
on intelligence and developing targeting. They have cyber 
capabilities, electronic warfare capabilities, and they are 
going to be very, very important in both Europe and Indo-
Pacific.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Can you discuss in this 
setting how Project Linchpin is integrating artificial 
intelligence (AI) into Army systems? I understand that the 
project aims to improve navigation systems, anticipate 
maintenance needs, help with targeting, and aid intelligence 
analysis.
    Will you address how this project will or will not keep a 
human in the loop on intelligence and targeting analyses?
    Ms. Wormuth. That is an important project and we are very 
much trying to integrate and bring more artificial intelligence 
capabilities into our Army in various ways. That is very much 
going to be a wave of the future, I think, clearly.
    Army Futures Command is going to be looking as we think--
start thinking about the Army of 2040 how can we bring even 
more AI capabilities.
    So we are using AI right now with some of the work that we 
are doing with the experimentation we are doing with the 18th 
Airborne Corps. We also have an AI Integration Center at 
Carnegie Mellon University that we are working with very 
closely and many of the fellows coming out of that program are 
going into different parts of the Army to help us do more with 
AI capabilities.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Fischer, please?
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Senator Wicker briefly touched on the--really, the need and 
the value that we receive as Members of Congress from the 
unfunded priority list that you provide and I would say that 
the majority Members of Congress view that as a useful tool so 
that the Committee can use that and you can convey what is 
needed to meet the challenges that you face.
    So I do thank you, General, for the visibility that you 
have provided on the importance of your needs so that it will 
allow us to make more responsible, I think, resourcing 
decisions on those needs.
    If I could, I would like to ask both of you--the Army has 
spent the last 20 years primarily conducting counterterrorism 
and counterinsurgency operations in the Middle East. Can you 
provide an update on how you plan to rebalance your forces, 
restructure training and exercises, or develop unique 
capabilities in order to meet the increased demand that we are 
going to see in the INDOPACOM area? I would especially like to 
know what you learned from the Project Convergence exercises.
    Ms. Wormuth. Certainly, Senator Fischer.
    We are doing a lot to shift from counter-insurgency (COIN) 
and counter terrorism (CT) to large-scale combat operations 
through exercises like Defender Europe and Pacific Pathways in 
the Pacific.
    We have come out with a new field manual, 3-O, which is our 
vision and doctrine for multi-domain operations, and I would 
say when we look at the Indo-Pacific we are really going to be 
focused on establishing and setting up and securing staging 
bases for air and maritime forces, contested logistics.
    The Army will play a huge role in terms of making sure that 
the joint force has the supplies that it needs, and many of the 
new air and missile defense systems that we are developing are 
directly designed to deal with the anti-access area denial 
threats that China poses, for example.
    So our entire modernization program is focused on 
developing the kinds of capabilities that we need for large-
scale combat.
    Senator Fischer. General, with Project Convergence what did 
you learn?
    General McConville. Yes, I think Project Convergence is 
really the future. It is the ability to take deep sensing, 
different types of sensors, and quickly move information to an 
integrated battle command system, take advantage of artificial 
intelligence, and then move that data to an effective lethal 
means.
    A good example of that is countering unmanned aerial 
systems (UAS). So we are going to have a whole bunch coming at 
us and you do not necessarily want to be shooting Patriot 
missiles at $100,000 UASs and so if you think about the future 
battlefield there will be multiple threats.
    We will have multiple sensors to pick up those threats. We 
will bring them quickly into an integrated battle command 
system, take advantage of the technology, and then get them to 
the right weapon systems that can deal with that problem.
    We are seeing this nascent right now in Ukraine. They are 
doing a very good job taking advantage of the sensor they have 
with the fires they have and that is a lot to do with how 
effective they have been.
    Senator Fischer. When you look at the change in the 
battlefield, and we talked about this a little bit earlier this 
week, can you provide the Committee an update on the 
development of the Army's long-range hypersonic weapon?
    General McConville. Yes. Right now we have a battery that 
is already fielded. The systems are ready to go. We are doing 
testing. We have a couple more tests to do on the weapon 
systems and we had to test that we are working through like 
every test to get it to the final configuration.
    But at least the schedule we have right now we anticipate 
having a hypersonics capability by the end of this year, which 
has been pretty remarkable.
    Senator Fischer. Yes. Thank you.
    Madam Secretary, we spoke earlier this week about the 
Future Soldier prep course. Can you highlight to the Committee 
some of the successes of the program?
    Ms. Wormuth. Certainly. This program has been very 
successful. We have it at Fort Jackson, South Carolina, and 
also Fort Benning, Georgia. We have had about 8,000 young 
Americans go through the program. There is two components. It 
is sort of like a mini boot camp.
    There is an academic component, which is designed at 
helping young people who have not quite scored high enough on 
the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery (ASVAB) raise 
their scores, and then we have a physical fitness component 
because in some cases we have got young kids who want to serve 
but they are not quite within our body fat composition 
requirements.
    It has been very successful, both pathways, if you will. 
About 97 percent of the folks who go into it have graduated and 
have gone on to basic training, and many of them are performing 
very well at basic training as well.
    Senator Fischer. So that is a way to get closer to the 
goals that you have for the recruitment----
    Ms. Wormuth. Yes, absolutely, and to do so in a way that 
does not lower our standards, which both the chief and I feel 
is very important.
    Senator Fischer. Exactly. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Let me remind my colleagues that when we conclude this open 
session we will recess and start a closed session in SVC-217.
    Senator Hirono, please?
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Thank you both for being here and, General McConville, 
thank you very much for your service and best wishes on your 
retirement.
    Secretary Wormuth, we have talked a number of times about 
the State of the military's infrastructure in Hawaii, and I 
know you have visited Hawaii several times to see the failures 
for yourself.
    I appreciate your attention in this area but as you know 
there are still rolling blackouts at Schofield Barracks, issues 
with the water systems at Tripler, and UXO removal concerns on 
the Big Island.
    A majority of the Army's facilities in Hawaii are failed or 
failing with an estimated cost of repair of almost $5 billion. 
Fixing this will not happen in 1 year but we must start taking 
these projects off the unfunded lists and make real progress.
    Madam Secretary, how are we going to chip away to the $5 
billion in fixing that we have to do? Do we not need to get 
more of these projects off the unfunded list?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    We do have considerable infrastructure challenges in 
Hawaii, as you note, and I would say both above ground in terms 
of buildings and barracks--I saw some barracks that were not in 
good shape at Schofield Barracks--as well as our underground 
infrastructure in Hawaii.
    The chief and I right now as we look to the next budget--we 
are building the next 5-year budget--are looking at how we can 
invest more in infrastructure. We actually sent out a team from 
Army Materiel Command and from our installations' energy and 
environment team to assess the infrastructure.
    They came back with, frankly, a multibillion-dollar bill 
and so what we are trying to do is look at how we can find more 
resources to put toward that problem and we also want to do it 
in a way, frankly, that is mindful of the limited construction 
capacity that is on Hawaii.
    It is going to be complex to sort of figure out how many 
projects we can do a year and how do we phase that in in such a 
way that we do not overtax the capacity on islands.
    Senator Hirono. It makes a huge difference to the community 
when the military writ large--because the community is not 
necessarily making distinctions that Red Hill, oh, that is a 
Navy issue and Pohakuloa is an Army issue. It is all combined, 
and every time we can make real progress in dealing with the 
infrastructure needs I think it would be--it really helps the 
community to understand that the military is there as part of 
our community and they are making progress or they are doing 
good things. We need to think of it in that way and I know you 
recognize that.
    Senator Wicker has asked these questions, General 
McConville. The National Defense Strategy makes clear that the 
priority theater is the Indo-Pacific. So efforts like the 
Army's Operation Pathways, the newly constituted multi-domain 
task force in Hawaii, and the INDOPACOM aligned fifth security 
force assistant brigade are crucial to the Army's success in 
this area.
    Yet, despite Admiral Aquilino identifying the need for our 
$473 million investment in Pacific Pathways what is being 
requested is only $123 million and--because Pacific Pathways, 
though, that mainly pays for exercises with allies. Is that not 
right, General?
    General McConville. That is correct.
    Senator Hirono. So I assume that when there is such a big 
gap between what Admiral Aquilino wants and what he is getting 
that it just means that we are doing far fewer exercises in the 
Indo-Pacific AOR [area of responsibilities], and I do not know 
what the numbers are. But at some--is that a good way to think 
about it, that we are funding far fewer exercises than what 
Admiral Aquilino thinks is necessary?
    General McConville. Well, as the Secretary said, we are 
trying to balance the exercises with the barracks with the 
training and in the modernization, and we have requested 
additional funding if it is available to support that 
campaigning and I stand by the notion the more campaigning, the 
more resources we have, I think the stronger our allies and 
partners will be and the stronger our presence will be.
    Senator Hirono. I tend to agree with that and, yet, the 
military has over an $800 billion budget and one would think 
that some of these priorities can be better met.
    You were asked about the sexual harassment of--both of 
you--and it continues to be a scourge in spite of the efforts 
of this Committee, particularly with Senator Gillibrand's 
leadership.
    So, General McConville, you noted that it starts at the top 
and it goes all the way down. I think both of you agree. I am 
glad that you took swift action with regard to the culture at 
Fort Hood.
    But with the most recent tragic suicide, I realize the 
investigation is still going on but I think that how we deal 
with sexual assault and harassment really impacts our ability 
to recruit women to the military. Would you agree with that, 
Madam Secretary and General?
    General McConville. I think it affects readiness. I think--
--
    Senator Hirono. Yes.
    General McConville.--one of the secret sauces of good units 
is cohesive teams and if you have sexual harassment, you have 
sexual assault, you have any type of racism, any of those type 
things hurt the cohesion of a unit and we do not want that in 
our Army.
    Senator Hirono. We can do a lot more, I know that. So thank 
you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Cotton, please?
    Senator Cotton. On behalf of all our Arkansans I also want 
to express my condolences for the soldiers whose lives were 
lost in the crash of two Blackhawk helicopters near Fort 
Campbell overnight.
    It is terrible tragedy for all their families and the 101st 
community, and if you have served time there as I know General 
McConville has served more than a day or two at Fort Campbell, 
it is especially hard hitting.
    General McConville, I want to add my thanks and 
congratulations to you for a highly distinguished and decorated 
career of service to the Army. I know you are not retiring yet 
and you will run through the tape later this year.
    But we are very grateful for what you have done for our 
country and we are glad that in the middle of a recruiting 
crisis we are getting a four for one McConville trade. We may 
be losing you but we have got three children and one in-law. So 
thank you and your family for your service.
    Secretary Wormuth, I want to talk about the Army Combat 
Fitness Test and this ongoing years-long saga of that. Last 
year the Army unveiled gender-based standards after many years 
of promising gender-neutral standards.
    As a result, this Committee directed the Army within 180 
days of the enactment of last year's NDAA to promulgate new 
gender-neutral standards for combat arms, Military Occupation 
Specialties (MOSs). What is the status of those new standards?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator. We are looking forward to 
coming to brief you in June about where we are on that NDAA 
requirement, and I know you and the chief had a discussion 
about this.
    The language in the bill, as you know, talks about gender-
neutral standards for combat, military occupational 
specialties, and we will be able to lay out for you how we have 
approached that to date.
    We also, as you know, are coming up on the deadline for the 
Active Duty component to finish taking the test for record, the 
Army Combat Fitness Test. The Guard and Reserve folks have 
until October to take that test for record.
    But we can also give you an update on the data that we are 
seeing from that and what we can take away from that and what 
we can learn in terms of how we might adapt the ACFT, going 
forward.
    Senator Cotton. So the law calling the Army to establish 
the standards by June, not to brief Congress by June, are you 
going to--are you prepared to meet that requirement to 
establish the standards?
    Ms. Wormuth. We actually have standards in a Department of 
the Army Pamphlet (DA PAM) that lay out requirements for all of 
the combat MOSs that are gender neutral and we can brief you on 
those.
    Senator Cotton. Can you tell us what those combat MOSs are 
today or what branches, at least?
    Ms. Wormuth. I believe that we have them for all of the 
MOSs, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. But it is your understanding--the 
expectation of this Committee is that we have a single standard 
for the combat arms branches and then for all the other 
noncombat arms branches there will be a male and a female 
standard?
    Ms. Wormuth. As I have read the law that you all put in 
last year, these are standards. They are physical gender-
neutral standards for combat, military occupational 
specialties, yes.
    Senator Cotton. Yes, because I mean--and I was not the only 
one. Senators Ernst, Gillibrand, and Duckworth expressed 
concerns about this as well as did most of the Committee.
    I mean, when you are talking about things like the infantry 
there is irreducible physical demands. You have to be able to 
carry a 75- or 100-pound pack or carry a 250-pound wounded 
comrade, whether you are a man or a woman. Or if you are an 
artillery or armor you have to be able to handle shells that 
can weigh up to a hundred pounds.
    The standard, we all think, should be somewhat different if 
you are, say, working on a computer. That work is very vital 
but it is not the same kind of physical demands that the combat 
arms are, and in the middle of a recruiting crisis I do not 
think we should be taking steps to dissuade anyone, young men 
or young women, who may not be up to the physical rigors of 
armor and artillery but are able to perform all those other 
roles. That is your understanding of what this Congress 
intended, right?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, the DA PAM spells out exactly those 
kinds of things. I think the issue has been is--there is our 
combat. There is the fitness test and then there are the 
standards for the MOSs and there is a distinction there.
    Senator Cotton. Correct. I mean, this has been a long saga, 
as I said, and in retrospect, I mean, we had an Army that, let 
us see, toppled a Marxist government in Grenada, toppled a 
narco government in Panama, kicked Saddam Hussein out of 
Kuwait, toppled the Taliban, toppled Saddam Hussein, doing 
pushups, sit-ups, and a 2-mile run.
    So I think those guys were pretty physically fit that did 
all those things. But we are where we are. We have moved to the 
combat fitness test. I do not think the issue are the events on 
it.
    The issue is making sure that we have high standards that 
are suited for the demands of the battlefield and we just want 
to make sure that that is what we are going to get from the 
Army by the 180-day deadline.
    Ms. Wormuth. Yes.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Kaine, please?
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and to our 
witnesses, thank you for your service to the country. I add my 
sentiment to those who have expressed just sorrow over the 
incident with the servicemen and women at Fort Campbell. I know 
that it is tough for the whole Army family and the Committee 
shares in that.
    I just want to share with my Committee colleagues, I had 
the opportunity to do something 6 days ago. I was at the first 
of the nine base renamings. Two years ago in the NDAA this 
Committee in a bipartisan way decided that bases that had been 
named for Confederates should be renamed for American heroes 
who whom all could admire, and it was a--it is a pretty tough 
task.
    The naming commission considered about 7,000 or 8,000 names 
and then reduced that to 2,000 and then to about 500, and 
eventually reduced it down to 87 names and from those names had 
to find nine. Talk about a commission I am glad I was not on.
    But the first renaming was Fort Pickett, which had been 
built right before World War I and named in honor of General 
Pickett, the Confederate general. It was renamed Fort Barfoot.
    Van Barfoot was a Choctaw from Mississippi who enlisted, 
came to train at Fort Pickett, and then was deployed overseas 
in World War II and fought courageously in Italy and won a 
medal of honor under the most unusual circumstances, 
demonstrated great heroism in killing a lot of Germans and 
capturing scores of Germans and then saving the lives of many 
Americans.
    He then came back and continued to serve in the Army in 
Korea, served in the Army in Vietnam. When he retired from 
Active Duty he was connected deeply to the Virginia National 
Guard, which is headquartered now at Fort Barfoot. Was very 
involved in the Virginia War Memorial in Richmond that honors 
those who lost their lives in recent wars.
    He last made news when he was about 90 years old because he 
hung an American flag that was too big, according to his 
homeowners association, and they had the foolishness to try to 
test a congressional Medal of Honor winner.
    The ceremony was just amazing. It was led by tribal 
representatives from Virginia, Virginia's recently recognized 
tribes, and everyone in this community--Dinwiddie and 
Blackstone and Crewe and Lunenburg, Brunswick Counties--was so 
proud to be there and the naming commission did a remarkable 
job.
    Just to see the family--Colonel Barfoot's daughter spoke, 
other family members were there, and to talk to the naming 
commission about the care that they used in approaching this 
and knowing something about the other names that are 
forthcoming--the other base names--will be done in the months 
to come.
    I just wanted to say job well done to the Army and to the 
naming commission and doing it and just to report back to my 
colleagues.
    Everyone here around this dais supported that at the time 
in Committee, and I think if you go to one of these you will be 
really proud, as I was, to have played a little part in it and 
appreciate the Army approaching it the right way.
    General McConville, I have a couple of questions for you. 
In watching the Russian invasion of Ukraine we realize how 
different a conflict is where you have contested logistics and 
contested airspace versus the war on terrorism where we often 
had dominance in airspace and there was not such a contest.
    Can you share your thoughts--you have talked a little bit 
about this already this morning--on the contested logistics and 
how the Army will conduct logistics operations in contested 
environments and the plans that you are putting in place to do 
that?
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. I think, again, one of 
our biggest changes in our training and how we operate is we 
are able to operate fairly without any type of enemy contact 
from here all the way to Iraq, Afghanistan, and we know that is 
not going to be the case. It is not going to be the case in the 
Pacific if we have to fight in the Pacific. It is not going to 
be the case here.
    So what we are doing is building those capabilities and 
some of it is just by prepositioned stocks. We cannot assume we 
are going to be able to just sail across the seas safely. So we 
want to position equipment and ammunition in the theater. We 
need to disperse it. We need to protect it.
    There is that old saying about amateurs study tactics and 
professionals study logistics and what we see is those tanks 
and artillery pieces and aircraft become expensive paperweights 
if they do not have fuel, if they do not have parts, and they 
do not have ammunition.
    All that is part of what this contested logistics is about, 
and you can think about here, I mean, with cyber capability 
right now. So we are going to be attacked by cyber. We are 
going to--they are going to use space.
    We use space a whole bunch right now to move things, and 
even how we move by air or sea we are going to have to protect 
our systems and we are going to have to be aware of that and we 
are going to have to basically fight our way across.
    That is where our allies and partners become so important, 
the fact we have developed these relations, we have access and 
presence, we can quickly move into the--whether it is ports or 
airfields, and then we have the equipment and we have forces in 
the right place that can facilitate all of this.
    Senator Kaine. Just one fact for my colleagues as I 
conclude, and it will inspire a question for the record.
    In World War II we used 1.67 gallons of fuel per soldier. 
In Iraq and Afghanistan that had gone up to 27.3 gallons of 
fuel per each member of our troops. The contested logistics 
with respect to deployment of fuel that we will need will be a 
real challenge and I will ask a question about that for the 
record.
    I yield back, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Rounds, please?
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
both of you for coming before our Committee today.
    General McConville, thank you for your service and thank 
you to your family for their service to our country as well.
    You make a very good point when we talk about the number of 
places that you have been but also the fact that we lost young 
soldiers who were training and that it is not just those that 
are facing an adversary but those that are training throughout 
the year throughout our country that also take risk on a daily 
basis, and our thoughts and prayers are with you, the entire 
team, and the family of these soldiers.
    General McConville, as you know, there is an effort by some 
in Congress to require sharing of all or some of the 3.1 to 3.4 
or .5 band of the electromagnetic spectrum, also known as the 
S-Band. Right now it is held by DOD and some of the private 
sector needs it for 5G development, which is also important.
    But can you confirm that the Army has systems critical to 
our national security that reside on this portion of the 
spectrum?
    General McConville. Yes, I can, Senator, and from where I 
sit it is--I know there is a study that is being done. I think 
it is really important we do our independent study, take a look 
at what that means, and it happens to some of our bases with 
encroachment when people want to move close and we understand 
that that can happen.
    But if we cannot do the training we need to do, same thing 
with these systems. I understand perspectives where you want to 
develop the communications capability.
    But the only thing I would advise if asked is just take a 
hard look at--independent people looking at that and we know 
the risks to national security when we make that decision.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. I think part of the point that 
we try to make is is we are practicing at multiple bases across 
the entire United States. So we have that risk at multiple 
locations across the entire United States during our training 
sessions.
    Let me just take a step forward here, Secretary Wormuth. 
Thank you for what you do and your looking ahead in terms of 
what the Army will be facing.
    Part of what it is, and it was just mentioned a minute ago, 
and that is the--within the cyber domain and the challenge that 
we literally will not go to war without having a cyber 
presence.
    How well do you believe that the fiscal year 2024 budget 
supports the growing cyber threat, and where is the Army taking 
risk in the cyber domain and where would additional funding be 
most helpful in buying down that cyber risk?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator. We are making a lot of 
investments related to cyber in this budget because it is such 
an important area, and ensuring that we have good cybersecurity 
is really critical, particularly for our modernization 
programs.
    We have got to make sure that they are secure and not able 
to be stolen by our adversaries. We have over $400 million in 
this budget for implementation of our zero threat approach to 
cybersecurity. We are spending about a half billion dollars to 
continue moving to the cloud.
    One of my objectives is for us to become a more data-
centric Army and, certainly, having our data in the cloud is 
critical. We have got about $600 million in the budget for 
modernizing our cryptography and retiring some of our technical 
debt with our tactical radios.
    So I do not think that we are taking a lot of risk in this 
budget in the cyber area because it is so important. My own 
view is if there is a place where we are taking risk, and I 
think this is a place where as an entire joint force we may be 
taking risk, it is in--I worry a lot about threats to the 
Homeland, particularly through the cyber domain and so much of 
the critical infrastructure in our country is outside in the 
private sector, that figuring out how we work more closely with 
State and local governments, with private companies, to make 
sure that we are secured outside the fence line that is where I 
think we have risk and that is, in my view, more about how do 
we work together better organizationally necessarily than about 
the amount of money you spend.
    Senator Rounds. I agree with you. I also think that you 
have taken a major step forward, once again, in terms of 
coordinating with other sectors.
    I know that you have entered in or are entering into an 
agreement with Dakota State University in South Dakota on some 
advanced cyber activity as well and we appreciate the 
opportunity to be a part of the solution.
    General McConville, I have two thoughts. First of all, I am 
just going to ask this rather quickly. I understand that the 
Army is the executive agent for the theater, integrated air and 
missile defense, including the protection of fixed sites like 
airfields and supply depots.
    The missile threat to fixed and semi-fixed sites seems one 
of the most challenging threats to the joint forces. What 
additional investments, if any, does the Army need to make in 
air and missile defenses?
    General McConville. Senator, I agree with you. It is a 
significant threat and we are making significant investments. 
We are going to build more Patriots. We are building indirect 
fire protection capability, nine of those units. We are 
building counter UAS batteries.
    I think on the future battlefield we are going to protect 
it. But what we are also doing is taking advantage of an 
integrated battle command system and, again, this sensor, this 
convergence of having multiple--getting away from having one 
radar for one air defense system.
    So you take advantage of all the sensors that are out there 
and you use an integrated battle command system and you get 
better sensors so we can see things coming in. Taking advantage 
of the technology when it comes to artificial intelligence and 
so we can deal with those systems early on.
    But I think when the Secretary and I talk about it that is 
why air and missile defense is so important, especially in the 
Pacific, and we want to be able to do that.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Peters, please?
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, Madam Secretary and General McConville, I want to 
add my condolences to my colleagues' here for the horrible 
accident in Kentucky. I know that my heart goes out to their 
family, friends, and the entire Army community right now, who I 
know is all grieving.
    Secretary Wormuth, in 2018, the Army requirements oversight 
councils were held for both the Abrams and the Stryker 
programs.
    A modernization goal was set for the Abrams program at a 
rate of one full brigade per annum funding cycle, and similarly 
for the Stryker a modernization goal was set to upgrade one 
half a brigade each year.
    Congress has continually and consistently supported these 
programs and maintained these desired modernization rates with 
significant congressional adds along the way to support what 
Army leadership describes as, quote, ``enduring programs that 
the Army will depend on for decades.''
    So my question for you, ma'am, does the Army continue to 
support the Abrams and Stryker programs and at a modernization 
rate that is workable to support the industrial base that makes 
this equipment?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, we do very much support the Abrams 
and Stryker programs. Those vehicles--I think we have the best 
tanks in the world. I think if you asked the Poles and the 
Australians they would say the same, the Ukrainians as well.
    The challenge that we have is that we are trying to both 
continue buying important enduring platforms like Abrams, like 
Stryker, while at the same time investing in developing new 
next-generation combat vehicles like Armored Multi-Purpose 
Vehicle (AMPV), like the optionally manned fighting vehicle, 
and with the budget that we have we are only able to buy the 
volumes that you see in the budget that we have presented.
    I do think in terms of Abrams, for example, as I said, 
there are significant foreign military sales that have been 
made and I think that will be very helpful with sustaining the 
industrial base for those programs.
    Senator Peters. Very good.
    General McConville, for decades the Latvian--we have had 
Latvian troops training with the Michigan National Guard up at 
Camp Grayling to learn skills necessary to counter potential 
Russian invasion in Latvia and, certainly, never has this 
training been more relevant than it is right now.
    But in addition to Latvians, we routinely have other 
European allies as well as INDOPACOM partners trained at Camp 
Grayling to take advantage of the size and the capabilities 
that that installation offers.
    Our National Guard installations, and I hope you agree, are 
a hidden gem. They offer capacity and unique training 
environments for not only U.S. forces but also our allies as 
well.
    So my question for you, General, is how does the Army 
budget invest in the National Guard and in particular into its 
military installations, its ranges, its training areas, to help 
enable the Guard to conduct the multi-domain operations 
training that is so essential today?
    General McConville. Senator, first of all, let me highlight 
what a great job the National Guard is doing with Michigan and 
these partners, and if you take a look at Ukraine, you take a 
look at Latvia, these State partnerships have been going on for 
quite a while and, quite frankly, why these armies have the 
capabilities, that they have the capacity and the competence.
    What we do in the National Guard is we talk to them very 
closely. We want to resource them within our means we can and 
we come to their priorities and we lay them out and you will 
see some of those even on our unfunded priority list that did 
not quite make it in the budget.
    Really, like the Secretary said, to us it is all about 
balance. We have a fixed budget, as both sides have said. Some 
would argue that you cannot transform an Army without having 3 
to 5 percent real growth.
    We are trying to do that and we are trying to do the best 
we can with what we have and deliver the best Army we can do 
with the resources we get.
    Senator Peters. Thanks.
    General, the National Defense Strategy places great 
emphasis on the ability of our forces to operate in contested 
environments and the need to overcome enemy disruption, and my 
question for you is how is the Army empowering commanders and 
local installations to replicate live electromagnetic effects 
during home station training scenarios focused on operating in 
these domains?
    General McConville. Yes, that is something we are trying to 
get to. I would say we are doing a better job at our National 
Training Centers as such because that is expensive and also the 
places you can actually do that we have to work our way through 
it when you start using those type systems.
    But as you say, Senator, that is something that is really 
the big shift that we are seeing. We are going to be jammed in 
the battlefield. They know how important data is for us.
    If you go to the National Training Center right now you 
have a very different experience than you did a couple years 
ago. You cannot expect to have--if you are emitting as a 
command post or you are trying to do things we are going to 
take all those things that you depend on away from you so when 
you are in actual combat it should be a lot easier.
    Senator Peters. Right. Right. Thank you, General.
    General McConville. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters.
    Senator Ernst, please?
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and my condolences as 
well to the families and the fellow soldiers all within the 
101st Screaming Eagles family. We are sincerely, sincerely 
upset about the loss of those soldiers and it hits home for so 
many of us.
    But thank you for being here today, Secretary Wormuth and 
General McConville.
    On Saturday I will have the great opportunity to attend a 
retirement of a dear friend of mine from the Iowa Army National 
Guard, and it seems that many of us that have gray hair are 
seeing many of our friends and family members retire through 
the years and, General McConville, I wish the best to you and 
to your family as well.
    We know as we are stepping out of the uniform and out of 
the boots and leaving the ranks behind that we need young 
soldiers to step up into those ranks and so I do want to 
address some of the recruiting challenges that we are seeing 
today.
    On Tuesday, Chairman Milley had told us that the threats of 
America are at its highest since World War II and our Army is 
smaller now than it is required to be. By September Army end 
strength could fall to 445,000 soldiers and that is a 7 percent 
decline just over the past 2 years.
    So today I want to focus on our high schools and how some 
of those high schools are truly failing our military and their 
students.
    The law requires high schools that receive Federal funding 
allow access to our recruiters and as the Department of 
Education admits on its very own website only about 95 percent 
of the schools actually follow the law by allowing military 
recruiters access to their students.
    Mr. Chair, if I could enter into the record--this is from 
the Department of Education's website.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
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    Senator Ernst. Thank you.
    It does raise a question. So 95 percent do allow some level 
of access. So what about the 5 percent of schools that deny 
access to military recruiters? It really is about following the 
law of the United States.
    But it is not just about the law. It is about the 
opportunity that is extended to those students and it is about 
patriotism.
    So, General McConville, I am going to ask you to put on a 
recruiter's badge for a moment--through your years of 
experience you know this very well--but how would you explain 
the benefits of service to the many students in the 1,100 
schools who deny access? Who have not been able to meet a 
recruiter?
    General McConville. Yes. What I would say to those 
superintendents or those teachers or those counselors that do 
not want military recruiters you may be depriving your students 
of doing maybe the most important thing in their life and 
having an impact.
    We use the--kind of the slogan or the motto of ``be all you 
can be'' but there are just so many stories of people that have 
rose to the highest levels, have gotten an education, whether 
they did it in the military or gone further.
    But I just think that everyone should have an opportunity 
to serve, not necessarily in the Army or the military but just 
in general. They will be much better citizens, they will do a 
much better job, they will get training, they will get 
education, they will get leadership and they will just be--and 
when they are older and gray like some of us and they look back 
on their lives they will say, ``I served in the 101st Airborne 
Division.''
    Senator Ernst. Yes.
    General McConville. I was part of the Band of Brothers. 
There was a young woman from the 82d. We asked her why she 
joined the military, and she was at Kabul and did some 
incredible things and what she said to us--she goes, ``I did 
not want to go through life without having an impact.''
    We just had another--an officer. He was an All-American at 
Duke, played basketball there. He went to--play professional 
basketball and he was talking at an event for us, and he served 
with the Rangers. He came back. He goes, ``I worked on a Coach 
K. It was great team. I worked--played for two professional 
basketball teams. But the best team I ever was on was the Army.
    Senator Ernst. Outstanding, and I know one of my staff 
members this morning mentioned this is how he came to serve was 
he met a recruiter at his school.
    I think it is really important that we allow that access 
because, as you said, so many people that join they join 
because they have a family member. But there is a whole swath 
of young men and women that are incredible and really deserve 
the opportunity to serve.
    They just have to be exposed. They only know what they 
know, and those recruiters can really take in discussions about 
benefits and patriotism and so we think that that is really, 
really important.
    I do have some questions that I will submit for the record, 
Secretary Wormuth, for you as well in regards to recruiting. 
But we, certainly, want to make sure that we are correcting 
this by the high schools and I have legislation I am working on 
to do that.
    But I thank you both very much. General McConville, thank 
you for your service.
    Thank you, Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Kelly, please?
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I could not 
agree more with the senator from Iowa on this, the opportunity 
to serve, and as you mentioned, General, some of it--just 
somebody talking about it later, my dad served in the 82d 
Airborne, and I would hear it from him all the time and one of 
the reasons I took my path not in the Army but in the Navy.
    Also, I want to share my condolences on yours and, Madam 
Secretary, for you, too, and the Army's loss. We often expect 
losses in combat. Training accidents are--especially mid-airs 
are just horrific, and so we are with you in sharing the grief 
over this.
    General, you talked a little bit about training 
opportunities. I want to talk about a place specific to Arizona 
because for the last several years we have been hearing from 
witnesses as we prepare for this pacing threat of China that we 
need to be doing everything we can to prepare for this fight 
that we, obviously, do not want to get in and the best way we 
can--in my opinion, that we can avoid staying out of a fight is 
to make sure that our adversaries understand that they are not 
going to win and that means being as prepared as possible.
    Electronic warfare is something we have talked about a lot 
lately. It is a critical mission. I am really pleased to see 
that DOD has taken a fresh look at our capability here because 
it is going to be part and a big part of a potential future 
fight, especially if it is in the Western Pacific.
    I have been looking at this issue closely and I know some 
of my colleagues on the Committee have as well. But we need 
expanded airspace. The stick is longer than it used to be. We 
need more space. The threat is more significant, and we need to 
be able to replicate the high-end threat and have areas where 
we can put emitters and have the dynamic opportunities to best 
equip their forces and train them.
    DOD has had officials out to see the electronic proving 
ground at Fort Huachuca in Arizona and folks agree that this 
place has the capacity and it also has the expertise and they 
are willing to do more.
    General, can you please talk to the Army's vision and 
strategy for ensuring that our military is prepared for the 
advanced electronic warfare threats that we will face in the 
future?
    General McConville. Yes, Senator, you make a great point 
about Fort Huachuca. There is a reason why we have the unmanned 
aerial system training out there.
    There is a reason why we have electronic warfare capability 
at areas like that. It takes special places. Certainly, got to 
have the size. But it is also where you can do it. There is--I 
mean, we do a lot of stuff at the National Training Center. We 
do it out at Fort Huachuca.
    But it is something that is going to be more important in 
the future. We got to train the way we are going to fight. We 
got to expose our commanders to that environment, and our 
intent is that our training centers are so rigorous that when 
they actually go into combat it is an easier day.
    Senator Kelly. Yes. That is what you want, right. You want 
the training to be the most challenging thing.
    General McConville. That is right.
    Senator Kelly. Not often the case. You know, Fort Huachuca 
also offers geography and a landscape that really does not 
exist anywhere else, this natural bowl where you can transmit 
on a lot of different frequencies at very high energy.
    This is a real opportunity, too, and it has got a lot of 
potential to help the Air Force with their F-35s that every--
not every but a lot of their training missions they need to be 
considering the high-end threats.
    We can put emitters at Fort Huachuca. We also have 
opportunities to extend the size of the Barry Goldwater Range 
and may be connected to a Military Operations Area (MOA). The 
Jackal MOA, I think, that is north of Fort Huachuca.
    In my remaining time I am going to have another question 
for the record on the Fort Huachuca range. But I have got about 
30 seconds and I really do not want to go over.
    Madam Secretary, I am going to submit another question for 
the record about your vision for human machine teaming and 
working together. That offers a lot of opportunities for us in 
future conflicts.
    Thank you, and I will yield back my 8 seconds.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. I appreciate that 
very much.
    Senator Scott, please?
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. Thank each of you for 
being here. Thank you for what you do.
    General, can you talk about why should communist China or 
why should Russia, any of our enemies--why should they be 
concerned about the capacity that our Army and our military has 
and why should they--when they look at our recruiting we are 
not hitting our recruiting numbers.
    Support of the military is not what it used to be. Should 
they be concerned? Should they be concerned whether if they 
want to invade Ukraine or China wants to go in Taiwan or North 
Korea wants to do something in South Korea? Should they be 
concerned or not?
    General McConville. I think when I look at our adversaries, 
should they be concerned about the United States Army, 
absolutely, yes, they should be. It is the most lethal and 
ready army in the world and I think when we--I have spent a lot 
of time traveling around the world so when I go to Latvia, 
Estonia, Poland, Romania, you name it, that is the respect that 
our soldiers have.
    Every one of those countries wants us to be a partner with 
them and I think it is the same thing in the Pacific. I think 
it is only going to get better with resources as we transform 
the Army to make sure that we have the capabilities as part of 
the joint force that are going to make maybe an amphibious type 
of assault or an airborne assault or an air assault very 
difficult to do.
    As far as for people side of the house do we have some 
challenges? Absolutely. But we are looking for everyone's help 
to work our way through these problems, to inspire young men 
and women to serve.
    Senator Scott. What do you think about Taiwan's effort to 
put themselves in a position that communist China will not want 
to invade? Do you think they are doing all the right things?
    Do you think they are--they have a big enough military and 
do you think they have made--are going to make it difficult for 
them?
    General McConville. What I would like to do, Senator, is 
take that to the--if we can take it to the next session.
    But here is what I would say, generally. I think there are 
some good lessons learned when we deal with allies and partners 
from Ukraine, and what I would say is take a look at what are 
their capabilities, what are their capacity, what is their 
competence, and by capabilities what type of weapon system they 
have.
    Do they have the right weapon systems to defend themselves? 
Do they have enough of those weapon systems? Are they competent 
in those weapon systems?
    But, to me, the most important thing is do they have the 
will to fight, and if they do not have the will to fight to 
defend their country like the Ukrainians did we need to take a 
hard look at that.
    Senator Scott. What do you think about--what do you think 
about the capacity of the military in South Korea and the 
willingness of the people to defend their freedoms?
    General McConville. I think the South Koreans have very 
good capacity and I think they are very committed to defending 
their freedom.
    Senator Scott. So you think that North Korea should be 
concerned if they wanted to invade?
    General McConville. I think North Korea should be 
concerned.
    Senator Scott. Okay. What about our North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization (NATO) allies? Do you think they are building the 
capacity they need and they have the willingness?
    I mean, if you look at Germany as an example and you look 
at their pathetic response to the invasion of Ukraine where 
they have not put up the resources they should, they have not 
built the military they should--I mean, what do you think about 
what NATO allies are doing?
    General McConville. I think NATO allies respond to their 
interests. There are a lot of things that go on in each 
country. I look back to General Marshall when he had my job. He 
said, you know, when I had the time I did not have the money. 
Then when I got the money I did not have the time.
    We are seeing that kind of play out right now and that is 
why it is very important that we invest in our militaries 
during a time we are not in a major conflict and that is why we 
want to develop these future systems right now while we have 
the time and we have some money before it is too late.
    Senator Scott. Do you think that our NATO allies are doing 
their part?
    General McConville. I think the NATO allies I have seen--
again, the ones that are most in, I would say, harm's way, 
absolutely. If you look at what the Poles are doing, you look 
at what the Romanians are doing, you look at what the 
Lithuanians are doing, Estonia, things have changed.
    I have seen a fairly significant change in how NATO has 
come together because they see a real threat.
    Senator Scott. Do you think the American public understands 
enough about the threat of communist China?
    General McConville. I think Americans may or may not. I 
would not speak for the Americans. But I think in a lot of ways 
people are focused on what is happening in this country and 
when you start to talk about what is happening in Ukraine or 
what happens in Taiwan it gets to this world order bit, and for 
a lot of people they are not quite sure how that plays into 
their lives.
    But we can show that regional conflicts have global 
implications and we want to avoid regional conflicts. It is no 
one's interest to have a Ukraine or have a Taiwan.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Scott.
    Senator King, please?
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, Secretary Wormuth, I want to compliment you on 
something in the budget. In these hearings you rarely have that 
happen. The fact that you have a significant increase in R&D 
[research and development] I think that is very important 
because my next question is going to be to General McConville, 
which is about the changed nature of warfare.
    We have seen enormous changes--cyber directed energy, all 
of space, all of those things that have become so much part of 
conflict that in the first day, I guess, the question is are 
your Army units going to be able to maneuver if they cannot 
communicate and if GPS [Global Positioning System] is gone? 
That is the kind of environment that we are facing.
    General McConville. I think what we are doing is we are 
prepared for that environment. So, in fact, one of our cross 
functional teams is we call it alternate precision navigation 
timing. Basically, it is how do we figure out what happens when 
they jam a GPS.
    I come from the philosophy you never want to be a one 
option commander. You never want to be dependent on one option. 
You never want to be dependent on the weakest link of a supply 
chain.
    As you mentioned so eloquently, Senator, we are moving from 
air-land battle--if you think about it that is two domains we 
are kind of focused on fighting, that has been the doctrine 
used for last 40 years--to multi-domain operations.
    So we are going to be contested in space because the Army 
uses space a lot. Certainly going to be contested in cyber all 
the way to the Homeland because we are going to have to 
basically fight from port to--from fort to foxhole.
    We are, certainly, going to be contested in the air. You 
can see how right now even Ukraine we have been contesting the 
sea. Ships are getting sunk and that matters, and then 
definitely on the ground.
    So it is going to be a very complex battlefield. We have to 
teach our soldiers. Many of you have visited our soldiers in 
the field and our operation centers. They were huge operation 
centers. They had stadium seats. They had big screens on them. 
That is not the future. They are going to have to learn to 
move, and how they emit and how they communicate is going to 
become extremely important.
    Senator King. Are you satisfied that we are taking adequate 
in terms of both training, expenditure, and culture, if you 
will, to be thinking in new and different ways in order to deal 
with this entirely new threat environment?
    General McConville. I think we are, Senator, but I think we 
can always do more. But if you go out to our National Training 
Center and our Joint Readiness Training Center and other 
training centers, that is what we are making them do.
    So they cannot set up the big operation centers. We make 
them move every couple hours, and they are seeing swarms of 
unmanned aerial systems and so they are getting their radios 
jammed. They are getting their GPS jammed, and so what we have 
to do to our soldiers, who a lot of them have spent the last 20 
years doing counterinsurgency and counterterrorism, this is the 
new fight and we built new doctrine.
    We are building new organizations to get after that. We are 
doing talent management differently now. We are going to be 
coding on the battlefield. We are going to have to have people 
that can actually code on the battlefield because then they are 
going to be trying to defeat algorithms and we have to be able 
to do that.
    Senator King. Well, I appreciate that, and I have been 
asking the same kind of questions of the Navy. In fact, the 
Secretary of the Navy showed up at my office last week with a 
sextant just to prove that GPS was not the be all and end all.
    A question relating to my service on the Veterans Affairs 
Committee. One of the issues that we have identified with our 
veterans is the transition between Active Duty and veteran 
status and how we can facilitate that in a more active way.
    Suicide--the disproportionate number of suicides occur 
within 2 or 3 years of separation from Active Duty.
    General, I hope this is something that you are focused upon 
because it is critical to make sure that that transition 
happens smoothly and that the new veteran knows that there is 
available services and that there is somebody that cares about 
them when they leave the service.
    General McConville. Senator, as you and I talked about, I 
am absolutely committed to that. I want to make that work.
    Transitions are the most dangerous time. I am a student of 
suicides. They break my heart every time we lose a soldier and 
they happen during transitions, whether it is a transition in 
their relationship, transition in their job, transition in 
their financial status, or even transition out of the military.
    When they leave that warm web of friends, and we have to do 
a better job of--we do not want them to have a smooth landing. 
We want them to have a smooth takeoff. How do they leave the 
Army or the military as a whole and get into that welcome that 
we talked about and we have to manage that transition for them.
    Senator King. I appreciate that and I also--I want to end 
with a compliment to you not only for your many years of 
incredibly distinguished service but when you were talking 
about Taiwan you listed capability and capacity and I was madly 
writing notes, and you anticipated because you came down to the 
conclusion of the most important factor is will to fight--will 
to fight--and that is the one thing that we have learned from 
Ukraine was so critical. So thank you for your service and 
thank you for your important testimony here today.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Budd, please?
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman. Again, thank you both 
for being here. I just want to extend my condolences to the 
family of those killed at Fort Campbell last night. I come from 
a family of aviators including a Blackhawk pilot, so we are 
certainly keeping them in our prayers.
    Secretary Wormuth, quality of life is a major factor in 
retaining soldiers and their families, as you know. The Army is 
investing to replace barracks and built a new child development 
center at Fort Bragg in my home State in North Carolina. These 
are going to go a long way but there is much more to be done.
    Can you please discuss how the Army is investing in quality 
of life initiatives this year?
    Ms. Wormuth. Certainly, Senator.
    One important quality of life investment we are doing is 
barracks, both building new ones, as you said, and renovating 
ones that we have.
    We have got about a billion dollars in this year's budget 
for barracks across Active, Guard, and Reserve and we are going 
to keep that kind of investment until 2030 to really try to get 
after our entire inventory. In fact, General McConville and I 
are looking at can we find a way to invest even more in 
barracks.
    We are also investing quite a bit in family housing and we 
work very, very closely with our five privatized housing 
partners to try to make sure that they are building new 
inventory and maintaining the inventory that we have.
    We have had some challenges with those companies a few 
years ago but I think we are in a better place with them now, 
although there is always work to do.
    Another big set of quality of life investments we are 
making are in--related to child care. In the last couple of 
years we have built a number of new Child Development Centers 
(CDCs). What we are really focusing on this year is trying to 
make sure that we are staffing our CDCs at the highest level 
possible so we can operate at maximum capacity.
    We have raised the minimum wage for our daycare workers. We 
have raised the fee assistance for our soldiers from $1,500 a 
month to $1,700 a month. We are giving recruiting bonuses 
basically for CDC workers.
    We are giving bonuses for our in-home child providers--
spouses, in many cases, who open up their own homes. If they 
move from one duty station to another and stay with the program 
there is a bonus for that as well. So we are really trying to 
focus on child care.
    Senator Budd. Very good. Do not let up, particularly in 
North Carolina. If you would keep your eye on that, appreciate 
it.
    General McConville, are the Army and the Marine Corps 
interoperable in the INDOPACOM theater?
    General McConville. I believe so. I think we work very 
closely together. We have done what we call Project Convergence 
where we are bringing together the forces. We are all trying to 
get to the point where we have a combined joint all-domain 
command and control capability and I know that the commandant 
and the chief level we work very closely. They are training 
together out there. We are sharing capabilities and, quite 
frankly, there is plenty of work for everybody out there.
    Senator Budd. So you mentioned their capabilities but how 
do their missions and their capabilities differ and how are 
they mutually supportive?
    General McConville. I think when we take a look at the--
when I take a look at the Marine Corps, if you are going to do 
it. When you think about forced entries, okay, I have looked at 
the Marine Corps as the experts on amphibious operations.
    I look at the Army as the experts on airborne operations 
from 82d Airborne Division, 18th Airborne Corps, 101st, the 
expert on air assault operations.
    When you take a look at those type of operations that is 
where it plays out. But the Marine Corps has, certainly--from 
the maritime environment can do great things. But at the end of 
the day, where the where the Army comes in is, quite frankly, 
the capacity and the scale.
    You are going to do large-scale combat operations on land. 
You can do them in the United States Army in conjunction with 
the Marine Corps.
    Senator Budd. Thank you.
    So how is the Army incorporating multi-domain task forces 
into theater operational plans and theater formations to 
operate in a denied or degraded environment?
    General McConville. Yes. I think we are going to see the 
multi-domain task force being in tremendous demand by all 
combatant commanders. Quite frankly, it already is. We are 
seeing some of the value, and I can talk a little more about 
that in a classified session of what they are doing.
    But when you think about what they exist to do is they 
provide long-range precision fires. So you are going to see 
hypersonics. You are going to see mid-range capability to sink 
ships. Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) can do that.
    But they also provide long-range precision effects. So they 
are in intelligence. They are in IO--information operations. 
They do cyber. They do electronic warfare in space, and you can 
also bolt in air and missile defense.
    So when you start thinking about the ability to assist in 
maybe a no-fly zone with--from the ground we can assist in that 
because we will have integrated air and missile defense.
    If you think about maybe you want to have a no-sail zone or 
assist in that because we are going to have anti-ship 
capability, anti-axis capability, that organization will play 
very well into that.
    Senator Budd. Thank you very much. I have another question 
but I will submit it for the record. Thank you both.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd.
    Senator Blumenthal, please?
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for your very articulate and informed testimony today, and I 
join in condolences to the family--the larger family--Army 
family of the nine soldiers who died at Fort Campbell.
    Secretary Wormuth, I want to focus for the moment on 
helicopters, the Sikorsky and Bell competition for the next 
long-range assault aircraft contract.
    That contract was awarded to Bell. I am sure you are 
familiar with efforts on my part and our delegation's part to 
get some of the basic facts, which we are entitled to receive 
as a matter of oversight.
    I am deeply disappointed that we have received none of the 
essential facts that underlie the Army's decision to go with 
Bell rather than Sikorsky when, in fact, Sikorsky may have a 
less expensive, more maneuverable longer-range helicopter under 
FLRAA.
    But as disappointed as I am with the decision I am more 
disappointed with the lack of an explanation and, in fact, the 
reliance, apparently, on a regulation, which Deputy Secretary 
Hicks acknowledged does not bind. The Army has not bound it in 
the past, does not bind it now from providing this information 
to us.
    I am not going to get into a debate on the legalities here. 
What I am interested in knowing is your commitment to give us 
that explanation when the source selection process has 
concluded, which will be next week when the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO) issues its opinion.
    Will you commit to give us a briefing and an explanation 
next week when the GAO finishes it?
    Ms. Wormuth. Absolutely, Senator. I have already asked Doug 
Bush, our Assistant Secretary for Acquisition, to be prepared 
to give you that briefing the minute the GAO completes its 
review.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    General McConville, I am struck by your quotation--I do not 
remember who it is attributed to--General Marshall, that when I 
had the time I did not have the money; when I had the money I 
did not have the time.
    I am afraid that aptly describes our situation in Ukraine, 
or more specifically, the Ukrainians' position vis-a-vis are 
providing the money, the arms, the weapons that are needed 
because I too had been impressed with the will of Ukrainians.
    When I visited three times over the last, roughly, year, 
speaking not only with President Zelensky but with his top 
military leadership, with everyday Ukrainians, they will fight 
to the last person. They will fight with pitchforks, if 
necessary. They do not want our troops on the ground. They want 
what we would give our troops if they were on the ground.
    I have also been impressed, and I hope you will take this 
message back to the men and women under your command, with the 
training that we provide. I visited Grafenwohr in Germany and 
watched the training that our soldiers are providing to those 
Ukrainian freedom fighters, men and women who 6, 8, 10 weeks 
ago were bakers, computer programmers.
    Now they are about to go to the trenches in Ukraine, and 
the bond between them and our soldiers is really inspiring and 
the kinds of skills that our soldiers are imparting to them 
really inspiring.
    I hope we can give to them the arms that they need and you, 
as a professional--and I underscore the word professional--not 
only distinguished but a man who knows how wars are won will 
also support the kinds of increased arms that are needed now 
because time is not on our side. The spring is an essential 
time to provide that aid.
    So I want to ask you whether you think Ukrainians are 
getting enough now to win because if they do get enough they 
will win, and in your professional judgment whether we should 
be doing more.
    General McConville. Some of that question I could talk in a 
classified session about. But I agree with you as far as on the 
Ukrainians.
    I mean, they learned to operate our Patriots in weeks, 
which is really pretty incredible, and same thing over in 
Grafenwohr where they come in, they are really serious about 
the training, they are very, very professional, and they want 
to do it.
    They are taking our things that people thought were not 
possible, some of our very sophisticated systems, which 
historically you could never give to another military because 
they could not maintain.
    It is nice to have the gear but you have to maintain it, 
you have to sustain it, and so far, I think, they are doing a 
magnificent job of working that, and we are learning a lot from 
tele-maintenance to tele-training and when they are down range 
and they are very innovative on taking our systems and doing 
that extremely well.
    From our standpoint we are giving them the weapon systems 
that are requested from us at the same time the Secretary and I 
are trying to make sure that we have what we need to go and do 
the job, and we appreciate your support in replenishing not 
only the ammunition but also allowing us to modernize the Army 
while we go ahead and provide them with the systems they need.
    Senator Blumenthal. My time is expired, but thank you both.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Sullivan, please?
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman and General. 
Madam Secretary, welcome. Thanks for your great service. 
Appreciated the call yesterday.
    My condolences as well to the Army family members in this 
recent crash. It reminds us that it is a risky profession 24/7.
    I wanted to ask you--first, compliment both of you and then 
ask kind of a two-part question. How is the 11th Airborne 
Division doing? We love them in Alaska. Very proud of them in 
Alaska.
    General, it was great being with you for the patching 
ceremony in Fairbanks and Anchorage last year, I know that the 
Army is looking at standing up two or three--two more multi-
domain task forces, and I am not trying to be greedy here but I 
just happen to live in the State that Billy Mitchell called the 
most strategic place in the world and, by the way, so did the 
NORTHCOM commander last week in a hearing. Best training in the 
world by far, and a gateway to the Arctic, gateway to the 
Pacific, a couple of miles away from Russia and the Taiwan 
Strait and--I am talking about Alaska.
    We would love to have a multi-domain task force base in our 
great State. But maybe if you can talk about both 11th Airborne 
and where you are looking for the next multi-domain task force 
that would be great. Both of you.
    Ms. Wormuth. Thanks, Senator Sullivan.
    We are very pleased with the 11th Airborne Division. I 
think the reestablishment of that division has really 
reinstilled our soldiers in Alaska with a sense of purpose. I 
think morale is quite high as we----
    Senator Sullivan. Is it not the most--the highest?
    Ms. Wormuth. I was just about to say that. Yes.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. Sorry. Did not want to steal your 
thunder.
    Ms. Wormuth. It is the most popular--most popular duty 
station right now. One of the----
    Senator Sullivan. In the U.S. Army. So everybody is 
requesting it more than--that is so great.
    Ms. Wormuth. Yes. Exactly. They just completed a major 
training exercise, which went very, very well. I think we set a 
goal in our Arctic strategy a few years ago to really bring 
back our cold weather expertise and we are really starting to 
do that in a way that I think is going very, very well.
    As you know, General Eifler and Command Sergeant Major 
Daley are--and all of the leaders below them are very engaged 
and I think the division is doing great things.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. General? Then maybe you can talk 
multi-domain task force as well.
    General McConville. Yes, Senator. It is really interesting 
when you take a look at a unit that gets purpose.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes.
    General McConville. In the Army those who have served, 
like, little tabs, little patches----
    Senator Sullivan. Mean a lot.
    General McConville.----mean a lot.
    Senator Sullivan. Oh, yes.
    General McConville. What I see is there has been a huge 
change in Alaska because of the focus and now they--it used to 
be people were trying to survive up in the Arctic. Now they are 
thriving----
    Senator Sullivan. Good.
    General McConville.----and they are becoming the best in 
the world and becoming masters of their craft, and now they are 
working with--around the world in other places, too, where we 
understand the importance of the Arctic as a strategic 
environment that we are going to have to deal with and a lot of 
people look in the Arctic and now we have a force that is fully 
capable of doing that.
    They have taken that mission on from an airborne and air 
assault. Again, those type tabs mean a lot to our soldiers and 
I think they are making a huge difference.
    On the multi-domain task force right now we are kind of 
taking a look. I think we are not going to--certainly, not 
commit here where we are starting to look, but in the Pacific 
when you start thinking about why you would want that 
capability is the anti-access capability.
    You want the capability to provide maybe a no-sail zone, 
maybe a no-fly zone capability in conjunction with the joint 
partners, and then it is just a matter of the type of 
capabilities.
    We are going to have long-range precision fires. Where is--
and they do not necessarily have to be all together but you 
start to kind of lay that down how do you want to do that and 
then how do you want to position forces or rotate forces 
forward so they are also operating in the theater, and all 
those have to come together?
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. If you can keep me and this 
Committee informed on what you are looking at for the next 
deployment and stationing of those that would be great.
    My next question is on the budget, and I kind of took 
Secretary Austin and General Milley to task here. The Biden 
administration keeps putting forward defense budget cuts, three 
in a row. We bolster it up in a bipartisan way. I think that is 
leading from behind. They know we are going to do that so they 
put forward significant cuts, and I pressed General Milley and 
Secretary Austin.
    The current budget right now shrinks the Navy, shrinks the 
Marine Corps, and shrinks the Army to 450. It is a pretty low 
number for the U.S. Army, and I think this--but they also say 
it is the most dangerous time since World War II. It is kind of 
a disconnect there in terms of the signal we are sending, 
emboldening people like Putin and Xi Jinping.
    Can you comment, Madam Secretary or General, on the--going 
from 485 to 450 and how does that enhance America's national 
security in terms of end strength for the U.S. Army?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thanks, Senator. I really appreciate the 
question because I want to make clear that the fact that Army's 
end strength is decreasing is not due to the budget. It is not 
because we have been told cut the Army or there is not enough 
money to invest in a larger army.
    The issue, frankly, is really our recruiting challenge and 
we have talked a little bit about that with you. We have got to 
solve our recruiting challenge and what you can see in the 5-
year budget that we submitted is our intent to build back our 
end strength.
    So over the next 5 years we hope to start increasing our 
end strength by about 4,000 a year. But we are going to have to 
work really hard on recruiting to do that.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Warren, please?
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I would also 
like to express my condolences to the family and the friends of 
the nine soldiers who were killed in the Army helicopter crash 
at Fort Campbell. It is a reminder of how much we owe to every 
one of our servicemembers who put themselves in harm's way on 
our behalf. So it is a very sad day.
    I want to thank our witnesses for being here today. What I 
want to talk about today is behavioral health. Improving 
behavioral health resources and access for our servicemembers 
is critical to supporting those who are already sacrificing so 
much to serve our country, and I am deeply concerned that we 
are not doing enough to address the crisis of substance use 
disorder for our servicemembers.
    Last fall I sent a letter to the Defense Department along 
with my colleagues Senator Markey, Senator Cornyn, Senator 
Murkowski, and Senator Heinrich on reports of high levels of 
fatal drug overdoses involving opioids and fentanyl at Fort 
Bragg, Fort Bliss, and West Point.
    In DOD's response we discovered a total of 15,293 Active 
Duty servicemember overdoses from 2017 to February 2023. There 
were 332 fatal overdoses.
    Now, this is a problem for all of the services but the Army 
had the highest rate of overdose death.
    Secretary Wormuth, one of the ways for us to be able to 
address this issue is to understand the extent of the problem. 
Is there any kind of annual public reporting on servicemember 
overdoses?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, I am sure that we track that data. I 
am actually----
    Senator Warren. I did not ask if you track the data. I 
asked if you had a regular reporting of the data because I 
could not find one.
    Ms. Wormuth. We may not and we probably should have one.
    Senator Warren. Okay. There is no annual reporting, and I 
just want to make clear the only reason we know the numbers 
that I just cited is because DOD provided it as an answer to 
our letter.
    Public data that are updated on an ongoing basis would help 
us better understand and track this problem and whether any new 
policies that DOD implements are effective. We got to collect 
the numbers to know what is happening here.
    Now, one other aspect of this DOD's data showed that more 
than 80 percent of fatal overdoses by servicemembers were 
accidental. One thing that could help us prevent accidental 
overdoses from becoming fatal overdoses is easy accessibility 
of the overdose reversal drug Naloxone.
    Secretary Wormuth, DOD says that it provides Naloxone in 
high-risk cases, which is a good best practice. How often has 
the Army provided Naloxone to servicemembers and their 
families?
    Ms. Wormuth. I do not have that information, Senator 
Warren, off the top of my head. I do know that we have 
established a public awareness campaign for our soldiers called 
``One Pill Can Kill'' and, for example, at Fort Bragg every 
single newly arriving soldier gets that prevention training 
because we are deeply concerned, particularly with fentanyl 
being as prevalent as it is--we are deeply concerned about 
making sure our soldiers know the dangers there.
    Senator Warren. I want you to know I very much appreciate 
that you are trying to engage in other harm reduction 
techniques here. I am in favor of that.
    But I want to make the pitch that it needs to be more 
coordinated and that we need better accountability. You got to 
have the numbers--what programs are you trying and what effect 
is it having on outcomes.
    We know across this country now that harm reduction 
services save lives. We need to be doing everything that we can 
to mitigate overdoses among our servicemembers including using 
harm reduction services that are available and then tracking 
whether or not they are having the outcomes that we hope for.
    So I would like to be able to work with you more on this 
and see if we can get a stronger program in place.
    Ms. Wormuth. We would welcome that.
    Senator Warren. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Warren.
    Senator Shaheen, please?
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, for being here this 
morning.
    I would also like to offer my condolences. I was in Romania 
at the end of February and had a chance to meet personally with 
a number of members of the 101st Airborne who were there from 
Kentucky. So I can only imagine how devastating it is for the 
people, for everybody in the 101st but especially for the 
families.
    I would like to begin, Secretary Wormuth, with asking you 
about the enhanced night vision goggle binoculars, or ENVGBs, 
because Congress stepped in to restore the full $300 million in 
funding for 2023 after the Army budget request did not include 
any funding for the ENVGBs, and as I have heard from a number 
of companies and soldiers it is very important to this critical 
program to maintain the industrial base for it.
    That is why I was very concerned and did not really 
understand why again this year the Army has requested only $30 
million for fiscal year 2024 for the ENVGB program and that is 
especially after, in the words of the Army's unfunded priority 
list last year, failure to fund the ENVGB program, and I quote, 
``decreases soldier survivability.''
    So how does the Army justify this decision?
    Ms. Wormuth. Thank you, Senator. The enhanced night vision 
goggle binoculars are a great product, great system. Our 
soldiers--they are very, very popular. They have got a lot of 
great capabilities.
    I would say our approach to funding the ENVGBs is similar, 
in some cases, to other important systems like Abrams and 
Stryker. We are trying to strike a balance between investing in 
enduring programs or well tested systems like the enhanced 
night vision binoculars while also making sure that we have 
sufficient resources to invest in some of the new systems that 
we are developing.
    So our judgment was that that funding level was sufficient 
and allowed us to be able to strike a balance across our 
program.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, again, I understand and we have had 
these conversations before about the Integrated Visual 
Augmented System (IVAS) program and I know the Army has now 
ordered an IVAS 1.2 variant.
    But I think it is not at all clear and, in fact, I would 
like, Mr. Chairman, to submit for the record the Integrated 
Visual Augmentation System report here that was done by the 
Inspector General--well, it was done by fiscal year 2022 
directors of Operational Test and Evaluation. It is their 
report.
    But it confirms, I think, what the Inspector General found 
when he said the Army is at risk of wasting, and I quote, 
``wasting up to $21.88 billion in taxpayer funds to field a 
system that soldiers may not want to use or use as intended and 
the fact is this report found that IVAS did not demonstrate 
improvements to deficiencies and that soldiers were, in fact, 
performing worse than they had without the system.
    So, again, I understand the balance that you are trying to 
strike but it is hard for me to understand how much longer we 
are going to spend money on a program that does not seem to be 
accomplishing what you say is the intent.
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, what I would say there is we have had 
some challenges with the IVAS program, that is for sure, and 
the $22 billion figure that is cited in that report assumes 
that we buy it for the entire Army, which is not our current 
plan.
    With the 1.2 variant if Congress funds that what we are 
going to try to do is see if it can be successful. We are 
working very, very hard with Microsoft. But it is a new system 
that will allow us to train, to rehearse, and to fight and it 
gives some additional capabilities beyond the night vision 
goggles, which, again, are superlative.
    So if we think it can work then we will invest in it. If it 
does not prove out this time then we will move on. But I think 
we believe that we should give it a chance. It is a very 
important step forward in terms of wearable technology for our 
soldiers.
    Senator Shaheen. Again, I understand the intent and why on 
paper it looks like a technology that would be worth investing 
in. But the fact is to date it has not proven to be a 
technology that soldiers can use and improve their ability to 
operate.
    So I would again urge you to take a look at that program 
and to really question how far down the road we want to go 
investing in something that is not working.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. All right, and without objection the report 
will be submitted for the record.
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    Chairman Reed. Senator Rosen, please?
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed. I appreciate 
you holding this hearing. I would like to thank the witnesses 
for being here to testify today and, of course, for your 
service to this Nation.
    General McConville, as this will be your last time before 
the Committee, thank you for your decades of distinguished 
service leading the brave men and women of the United States 
Army.
    We appreciate you, and I also, too, like all of my 
colleagues want to express my deepest condolences for the 
families, the fellow soldiers, of those that were lost in last 
night's tragedy at Fort Campbell, and just to express my 
heartfelt sympathies.
    So I am going to talk a little bit about Nevada and, 
General McConville, I want to revisit an issue that I raised 
with you last year. Thank you for your commitment to ensure 
that Nevada will finally have its first small arms 
qualification range, and as we discussed, Nevada's Guard and 
Reserve soldiers are traveling to surrounding states in order 
to satisfy their annual weapons qualification, and it is about 
an average cost of around $500,000 a year per unit.
    I appreciate your commitment to look into this, which 
spurred the effort underway to build a permanent range in 
Hawthorne Army Depot by fiscal year 2025. I understand that the 
Nevada Army National Guard is on track to complete their 
planning and design to meet that timeline and so, General 
McConville, can I again have your commitment that the Army will 
see this project through in fiscal year 2025 so that soldiers 
can meet their annual requirements at greater convenience and 
lower tax cost to the taxpayer?
    General McConville. You have mine but I just want to check 
with the Secretary because she is going to be here. You have my 
commitment.
    Ms. Wormuth. We will follow through on it, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rosen. I have been to where they proposed it, at 
Hawthorne Army Depot. Everyone is so excited. The plans are 
really great and everyone is looking forward to having that in 
Nevada and with all the rest of our military there and Reserves 
there how it can be used for everyone in our State. So thank 
you for that. Really appreciate it.
    Again, I am going to move on to you then Secretary, about 
Hawthorne Army Depot. It is the world's largest ammunition 
depot and demilitarization facility, and the depot stores 
demilitarizes munitions and ensures munitions readiness for the 
DOD.
    Despite its size and crucial role that Hawthorne plays it 
is in desperate, desperate need of significant infrastructure 
upgrades. As an example, I heard from folks in Hawthorne 
earlier this month that the boilers, which were installed in 
1974, were inoperable and the facilities were without heat.
    The need to invest in our munitions depots has only become 
more acute in light of our need to ramp up munitions production 
not to only arm Ukraine but to, of course, backfill our own 
stockpiles.
    So given this, does the Army have plans to invest in 
repairs or upgrades to the munitions depot, and if it does not 
can I have your commitment that we can include Hawthorne in 
Army's--in the Army's next future years defense planning 
unfunded priority list so that we can--we really need to care 
about our munitions readiness.
    Ms. Wormuth. Yes, Senator Rosen.
    First of all, I would say on life, health, and safety 
issues we always want to take care of those. So I will make 
sure that we go out and look at the--at Hawthorne and assess 
whether there is a life, health, and safety issue with the 
boiler because if there is we will want to take care of that 
right away.
    We have a 15-year $18 billion organic industrial base 
strategy and plan to try to address modernizing all of these 
facilities and many of them are quite old, as you know. They 
are sort of vintage World War II.
    Again, we cannot do all of the modernization in 1 year so 
we try to phase that over time and, certainly, I believe that 
there are investments planned for Hawthorne depot a couple of 
years from now.
    We constantly assess that plan every year and will talk to 
General Hamilton, the new head of Army Materiel Command, to 
make sure that we have got investments in Hawthorne in the 
right prioritization.
    Senator Rosen. Yes. I think that--well, first of all, about 
the boilers not all of Nevada is a desert so it does get cold 
there and, really, our munitions readiness, building up our 
stockpile, they have been--they are always so busy but it has 
really played an even more integral role since we have been in 
Ukraine.
    I guess I will go on to this. Ukraine keeps receiving more 
advanced equipment--the Abrams tanks, the Patriot missile 
defense system--and those demands for those teams and 
capabilities continue to grow.
    So what are you doing to expand the current programs and 
ensure that we are equipped efficiently and accurately to 
respond to requests from the battlefield, especially as it 
relates to Ukraine?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, we are investing $1.5 billion in the 
organic industrial base this year to try to expand production 
for munitions precisely so that we can continue to supply 
Ukraine what they need but also to replenish our own stocks, 
and we are using some of the supplemental money that Congress 
has given us to replenish our stocks and not just buy new old 
stuff but we are buying new new stuff. So we are replacing M-
113 vehicles with the new AMPVs, for example.
    We are also working really closely with industry to try to 
see how they can increase the scope and scale of their 
munitions production to, again, try to make sure we can keep 
supplying the Ukrainians.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Duckworth, please?
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I do want to express my condolences.
    General McConville, you and I know inherently how dangerous 
the job is, especially that of our helicopter crews, and I 
personally gave you some heavy, heavy nights in Iraq a lifetime 
ago when my own aircraft went down while you were in--where we 
were supporting your unit, the first Calvary Division (CAV) 
there. So know that I have been thinking about those crews and 
their families.
    Good morning to both of our witnesses. I appreciate our 
candid conversation earlier this week. In your written 
testimony you highlighted the critical importance of contested 
logistics in both short sharp operations as well as for 
protected conflict.
    My colleagues have heard me talk about these difficulties 
in this Committee for some time now, especially as we look into 
the Indo-Pacific region.
    General McConville, in what ways does this year's Army 
budget request support contested logistics for the joint force 
and what efforts are you making to bolster sustainment 
capabilities and capacity, especially in Southeast Asia?
    General McConville. Thank you, Senator. As we take a look, 
one of the big things we have done right off the bat is stand 
up a cross functional team for contested logistics.
    As you know very well, I mean, we cannot do what we do 
without logistics. We are seeing it playing out in Ukraine, and 
Ukraine is such a great lesson for us all because we are seeing 
it play out.
    But it is on land and we have very robust capability to 
support logistics in Europe. We need to do the same thing in 
the Pacific and that is working with allies and partners. In 
the budget there is funding for watercraft.
    There is funding for prepositioned stocks, which is really 
important moving them forward, fuel distribution, all these 
type things that we are going to need to operate these weapon 
systems.
    These weapon systems without fuel, without parts, without 
bullets do not perform their duty. So we are working that very 
hard and we think it is very important.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    A critical vulnerability for any military, as we said, is 
the logistical tail associated with delivering operational 
energy to its fielded forces. Both our readiness and our 
allies' and partners' readiness will be bolstered by, one, 
reducing reliance on fossil fuels and employing more diverse 
and renewable operational energy sources; developing innovative 
delivery systems; distributed storage, as you said pre-po; 
sources flexible contracting and improved automation; and, of 
course, ensuring supply lines are resilient in the face of 
climate change, disruption through energy supplies and also 
cyber attacks.
    Secretary Wormuth, General McConville, how important is 
logistics cooperation in Europe and the Indo-Pacific, and what 
efforts in your budget request work toward operational energy 
security and resilience?
    Ms. Wormuth. Senator, as General McConville said, logistics 
are going to be critical. It is that old saying of amateurs do 
strategy and professionals do logistics, and we have made 
substantial investments in that area in this budget.
    Specifically on operational energy, I would say we have got 
over $1.3 billion in our budget this year for two big areas--
about a billion dollars in installations resilience, really 
making sure that our installations are adapting to extreme 
weather.
    But the other $300 million is investing more in operational 
energy and looking at electrification of our vehicles, looking 
at investing in developing hybrid vehicles.
    So, for example, we have a hybrid Bradley that I was able 
to see, as well as hybrid JLTVs, for example, and those are 
really important because they are going to be much more fuel 
efficient, which means that we will not have to have the kinds 
of fuel convoys that we saw in Iraq, for example, which means 
we are going to put fewer soldiers at risk.
    But those hybrid vehicles are also lower signature, which 
is really important when you are looking at the kind of 
contested environment, and they are very, very quiet, which is 
going to increase their survivability and, ultimately, our 
lethality.
    So those operational energy investments are really 
important.
    Senator Duckworth. DOD put out a statistic a while ago 
about Iraq that said that 80 percent of our casualties in Iraq 
came from convoy operations and over 50 percent of those 
convoys were for logistics and fuel--movement of fuel. I think 
it is highly important.
    But when you look to the Indo-Pacific region we are going 
to have to be able to partner with so many folks both in terms 
of partner military and allies and friends but also commercial 
resources as well, and I think it is important to make sure 
that we plus up our cyber capabilities and that of our allies 
also.
    I know that the Army Futures Command in particular is 
leading efforts when it comes to developing members across the 
total force with skill sets in advanced technology areas such 
as computer programming, coding, AI, ML [machine learning].
    I would like to hear from each of you about the benefits to 
the Department that comes from leveraging the digital skills of 
its total force servicemembers, particularly those in the 
Reserve component who have tech skills from their civilian 
careers.
    Ms. Wormuth. Sure, Senator.
    Just briefly, I would say we desperately need to build out 
our tech skills, our cyber capabilities. They are going to be 
incredibly important--our AI capabilities--and we need to be 
able to leverage them not just in the Active component but in 
the Guard and Reserves.
    In many cases where we cannot compete, frankly, financially 
with the salaries that people can get in the commercial sector, 
being able to draw on cyber capabilities from people in the 
Guard and soldiers in the Reserves is a great way to sort of 
thread that needle.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Duckworth.
    Thank you, Secretary Wormuth, General McConville. We will 
recess the open hearing and reconvene at 1200 hours in SVC-217, 
and I have been informed there is a vote that will commence at 
11:45.
    Thank you very much and we will see you shortly, and thank 
you, and we recess.
    [Whereupon, at 11:44 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    1. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, do you 
agree that if funding is needed for a project, it should be a part of 
the command/service budget?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. In accordance with 10 
U.S.C. 222a, the Chief of Staff of the Army is required to submit an 
unfunded priorities list (UPL) to congressional defense committees. The 
Army's fiscal year 2024 UPL totals $1.93 billion and reflects rapidly 
evolving requirements and opportunities in the strategic and 
operational environment since developing the fiscal year 2024 budget 
request. The UPL identifies priority items in the event Congress 
decides to allocate resources above the resources requested in the 
annual President Budget Request (PBR).
    Given the detailed level of specificity of questions regarding the 
28 UPL items, coupled with the degree of sensitivity of some of the 
answers that address capability gaps with strategic competitors, we 
respectfully recommend an in-person briefing and discussion with 
appropriate staff to more fully address these questions, provide 
broader context, and highlight how each UPL item, in addition to fully 
funding the PBR, supports the Army's continued priorities of People, 
Readiness and Modernization and maintains alignment with the National 
Defense Strategy.
    The Army carefully considers all projects and programs through a 
rigorous review and prioritization process to build each year's budget 
request. This process is lengthy and takes place several months in 
advance of execution. As is the case for the Army's fiscal year 2024 
UPL, the UPL items reflect rapidly evolving requirements and 
opportunities and are intended to supplement the annual PBR and are not 
intended to substitute or displace the fiscal year 2024 PBR.

    2. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
historically, have previous UPL items been included in the following 
year's base budget? Have UPL items from fiscal year 2023 been included 
in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail 
including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor executing the 
effort. If no, why not?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The annual Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) as an opportunity to enhance the Army's enduring 
priorities of People, Readiness, and Modernization. Some items were 
included to accelerate readiness such as the HMMWV ABS (OPA) and M-
SHORAD (MSLS) lines whereas other items were included to address 
emergent priorities that presented after the annual PBR was locked.

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                                                      President's    Fiscal     Fiscal    President's    Fiscal
            PE / LN                                   Budget 2023  Year 2023   Year 2023  Budget 2024  Year 2024
   LI#       Item       APPN            TITLE            ($ in        UPL     UPL (Cong.     ($ in        UPL
                                                       millions)     (RQST)      Add)      millions)     (RQST)
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     81    0604121A     RDTEA    Synthetic Training   166.452      13.500      40.000     109.714       0.000
                                EnvironmentPRefineme
                                   nt & Prototyping
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      3   8082C14300       MSLS          M-SHORAD--   135.747      275.062      0.000     400.697      22.700
                                        Procurement
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     15   8992DA0924      OPA        HMMWVAnti-lock    10.665      50.458     109.050      45.554      47.473
                                Braking &PElectronic
                                  Stability Control
                                          (ABS/ESC)
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    3. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, do you 
agree that Federal agencies have to make tough decisions in regards to 
their priorities and budget?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Agencies and 
organizations make tough decisions inherent to balancing resources 
against priorities. We are committed to providing the best Army we can 
with the resources available.

                          information on upls
    4. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
was the cost of putting together your unfunded priorities list?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. In accordance with 10 
U.S.C. 222a, the Chief of Staff of the Army is required to submit an 
UPL to congressional defense committees. The Army developed the fiscal 
year 2024 UPL as part of the FY24 budget development process, so there 
was minimal additional cost.

    5. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, the 
Army requested the following 28 items for 1.9 billion dollars in fiscal 
year 2024: Integrated Air and Missile Defense Battle Command System 
(IBCS), Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (M-SHORAD) Increment 1, Trojan 
Special Purpose Integrated Remote Intelligence Terminal (SPIRIT), Air 
Launched Effects (ALE) Acceleration, Organic Industrial Base 
Modernization Planning & Design, Expanding INDOPACOM Campaigning 
Activities, Abrams SEPv3 Procurement, AH-64E Apache New Generator, 
Water System Upgrade Projects in Hawaii, Water Intake Pump Upgrades, 
Radford Army Ammunition Plant, VA, Maneuver Support Vessel, Heavy; Army 
Watercraft, ARNG Vehicle Maintenance Shop, Network Enterprise Center, 
Fort Hunter Ligget (FHL), CA, Cost to Complete (CTC) Active Army, Cost 
to Complete (CTC) Army National Guard, Cost to Complete (CTC) Army 
Reserve, Army Reserve Center (ARC) located on USMC Logistics Base 
Albany, GA, Planning and Design MILCON Projects Active Army, Planning 
and Design MILCON Projects Army National Guard, Automated Multipurpose 
Machine Gun Range, Camp Blanding, FL, National Guard Readiness Center, 
New York, NY, Multi-Purpose Athletic Field, Fort Polk, LA, Integrated 
Visual Augmentation System (IVAS) Development, Integrated Visual 
Augmentation System (IVAS) Procurement, Black Hawk (HH-60M) 
Replacement, Apache (AH-64E) Replacement, HMMWV Anti-lock Braking & 
Electronic Stability Control (ABS/ESC), Demilitarization Preparation 
for Hazardous Material (HAZMAT) For each item on the unfunded 
priorities list you submit in response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please 
provide the following information:
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    6. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the description of this UPL?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    7. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
does the UPL purchase? (Include all end items with quantities, 
contractor FTEs, etc.)
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    8. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
specific capability will the UPL provide?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    9. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
gap will this fill that is not in the base budget?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    10. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
will this capability support objectives outlined in current National 
Security, Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    11. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the operational requirement? How does this UPL support current or 
future operations?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    12. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the operational impact if this UPL is not funded in fiscal year 
2024?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    13. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, are 
there plans to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    14. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, why 
was this UPL not included in the fiscal year 2024 President's Budget 
submission?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    15. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the name of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    16. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
often has your command met with the vendor executing this effort?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Specific to UPL item 
numbers 1, 2, 7, 23-27, the Department has existing programs and/or 
contracts and, therefore, has statutory and regulatory responsibilities 
required for their management. The Department, at every level--from 
contracting officer, to Program Manager, to Army Senior Leadership, to 
numerous personnel in-between--regularly meets with the vendors to 
ensure compliance with contracts and provides appropriate programmatic 
oversight. Our engagements with vendors are considered a regular and 
necessary tool in the prudent oversight and supervision of programs and 
the expenditure of taxpayer dollars.
    In addition, the Department regularly meets with all sectors of 
business so that industry has the opportunity to discuss with the 
Government possible materiel solutions or technologies with potential 
utility to fulfill Army requirements. Again, this is a part of the 
normal course of doing business within the Acquisition arena.

    17. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is your relationship history with this vendor?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Specific to UPL item 
numbers 1, 2, 7, 23-27, the Department has existing programs and/or 
contracts and, therefore, has statutory and regulatory responsibilities 
required for their management. The Department, at every level--from 
contracting officer, to Program Manager, to Army Senior Leadership, to 
numerous personnel in-between--regularly meets with the vendors to 
ensure compliance with contracts and provides appropriate programmatic 
oversight. Our engagements with vendors are considered a regular and 
necessary tool in the prudent oversight and supervision of programs and 
the expenditure of taxpayer dollars. In addition, the Department 
regularly meets with all sectors of business so that industry has the 
opportunity to discuss with the Government possible materiel solutions 
or technologies with potential utility to fulfill Army requirements. 
Again, this is a part of the normal course of doing business within the 
Acquisition arena.

    18. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, has 
anyone who formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in 
meetings? What is their name, what was their position, and when did you 
meet with them?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Specific to UPL item 
numbers 1, 2, 7, 23-27, the Department has existing programs and/or 
contracts and, therefore, has statutory and regulatory responsibilities 
required for their management. The Department, at every level--from 
contracting officer, to Program Manager, to Army Senior Leadership, to 
numerous personnel in-between--regularly meets with the vendors to 
ensure compliance with contracts and provides appropriate programmatic 
oversight. Our engagements with vendors are considered a regular and 
necessary tool in the prudent oversight and supervision of programs and 
the expenditure of taxpayer dollars.
    In addition, the Department regularly meets with all sectors of 
business so that industry has the opportunity to discuss with the 
Government possible materiel solutions or technologies with potential 
utility to fulfill Army requirements. Again, this is a part of the 
normal course of doing business within the Acquisition arena.

    19. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, in 
which city/State will the UPL be executed?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    20. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, is 
this requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    21. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the anticipated contract award date if the UPL receives funding?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    22. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
funding lines are associated with this UPL?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    23. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, if 
multiple appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations 
be funded simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each 
appropriation stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    24. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
much was enacted and obligated (or expended for RDT&E) in fiscal year 
2022 2023 for this requirement?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    25. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
much was requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    26. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, is 
there a tail associated with this UPL?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    27. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, is 
any tail funded in the future years defense plan?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    28. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
please describe how much the requirement will cost per year for the 
next 5 years.
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29. [The spreadsheet has been 
retained in Committee files.]

    29. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
please provide in detail the previous funding requests and enacted for 
this requirement, including if it was in the base budget or UPL.
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Please see the enclosed 
spreadsheet to address questions 5-29.

    30. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, if 
the requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will 
that be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the 
Program, Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army carefully 
considers all projects and programs through a rigorous review and 
prioritization process to build each year's budget request.

    31. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
please provide photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. We are unable to provide 
photographs of each UPL item at this time.
           lower tier air and missile defense sensor (ltamds)
    32. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
does the Army feel about the first two allotments produced of the 
LTAMDS?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Lower Tier Air and 
Missile Defense Sensor (LTAMDS) is the Army's modernization effort to 
develop the next generation, 360-degree sensor, intended to replace the 
aging PATRIOT radar. The LTAMDS systems on hand are currently 
undergoing testing and the Army is encouraged by the emerging results. 
LTAMDS will mitigate critical capability gaps in defending forces 
against rotary, fixed-wing, tactical ballistic missiles, and next-
generation threats including hypersonic weapons. The Army anticipates 
providing LTAMDS primary sector capability by December 2023.

    33. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, when 
do you expect the Army to request Lot 3 of the LTAMDS and when does the 
Army want Lot 3 completed?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The President's Fiscal 
Year 2024 Budget Request includes funds to award a contract for 
production of the five sensors in 2d quarter fiscal year 2024 with 
anticipated delivery beginning in 3d quarter fiscal year 2026.

    34. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, how 
many units for Lot 3 will you request?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The President's Fiscal 
Year 2024 Budget Request includes funds for three sensors to support 
the Pacific Deterrence Initiative (PDI), which will provide an Early 
Operational Capability for the Defense of Guam, and an additional two 
sensors to support the LTAMDS program's Initial Operational Test and 
Evaluation activates beginning in fiscal year 2026.

    35. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, are 
there any outstanding issues for the workers regarding the LTAMDS?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Based on the current 
schedule for production and deliveries, the Army does not anticipate 
any issues for the workers regarding the LTAMDS program.
                            military housing
    36. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, a 
survey from the Military Family Advisory Network found that in 2021 
found 40 percent of respondents were unaware of the Tenant Bill of 
Rights. What is the Army specifically doing to ensure servicemembers 
and their families are aware about the Tenant Bill of Rights?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. All military lessees 
receive the Plain Language Brief prior to their lease signing and again 
30 days after they move in. This Army brief covers the Tenant Bill of 
Rights and explains tenant responsibilities, informal and formal 
dispute resolution processes, and off post housing services. Military 
family members are invited to the Plain Language Brief but are not 
required to attend.

    37. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, does the Army have 
any survey data estimating the percentage of members and their families 
who are aware of the Tenant Bill of Rights? What does that survey data 
show?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army does not conduct 
such a survey, but will encourage the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense (OSD) to add it to the annual tenant satisfaction survey in the 
future. The Army uses the housing office record of delivery of the 
Plain Language Brief as a proxy for receipt of the Tenant Bill of 
Rights. Every military lessee receives the mandatory Plain Language 
Brief prior to signing the lease, and again 30 days after moving in. 
Military family members are invited to the Plain Language Brief, but 
are not required to attend.

    38. Senator Warren. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, if 
the Army isn't tracking this information, is this something the Army 
would track in the future?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army will request 
that OSD revamp its annual Tenant Satisfaction Survey to include survey 
questions regarding the Tenant Bill of Rights. In addition, the Army 
already has sound processes and policies in place to inform residents 
of the Tenant Bill of Rights, and will further refine these processes 
to ensure residents understand their rights.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Gary C. Peters
                           contested training
    39. Senator Peters. General McConville, the National Defense 
Strategy places great emphasis on the ability of our forces to operate 
in contested environments and the need to overcome enemy disruption. 
Outside of J-R-T-C and N-T-C, would the Army benefit from having 
training locations with standing approvals to employ Cyber, Electronic 
Warfare, Space, and Influence Operations into Large Scale Combat 
Operation training exercises?
    General McConville. The Army has not identified a requirement for 
additional training locations. The Army is presently evaluating the 
optimization of existing training locations and training products for 
the Combat Training Centers (CTC) including the Joint Readiness 
Training Center and the National Training Center as well as home 
station training (HST). Optimization of CTC and HST products to create 
a contested, congested, and complicated electromatic spectrum 
environment will include the employment of cyberspace, electronic, and 
space warfare products and will influence both opposing and friendly 
forces during training for Large Scale Combat Operations.
    The Army has several other initiatives ongoing with regards to 
operating in a contested, congested, and complicated environment. In 
fiscal year 2028, the Army is programming an electromagnetic warfare 
training range at Fort Huachuca, AZ that will provide a realistic 
representation of adversary capabilities across the electromagnetic 
spectrum and multiple domains. The Army is also planning a cyberspace 
and electromagnetic warfare (EW) multipurpose training range at Fort 
Gordon, GA in fiscal year 2029 that will provide a sophisticated 
institutional EW training capability for initial entry training for the 
Army's EW Soldiers. The Army is developing ranges capable of providing 
a cyber training environment within existing footprints, as well as 
multi-component training options. The Army is exploring the development 
of live, virtual, and constructive training capabilities to provide for 
a more realistic and robust training environment for multidomain 
operations and opportunities for training integrated with testing and 
experimentation.
              electronic warfare--multi-domain operations
    40. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, on several occasions, the 
Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC) has expressed concerns about how 
the Department of Defense is tasked and organized to support Electronic 
Warfare operations in support of the Joint Force or newly established 
Multi-Domain Task Forces (MDTF). Although both Cyber and Electronic 
Warfare personnel are attached to the Army Cyber Branch, EW lacks a 3-
star proponent in the Department, and EW capabilities are funded 
through the Force Development Intelligence (FDI) portfolio--meaning EW 
funding competes with the intelligence portfolio and priorities. Can 
you outline what entity owns or will own the manning, training, 
equipping, budgeting, and capability development for Electronic Warfare 
operations in the Army?
    Secretary Wormuth. Electromagnetic Warfare (EW) is a warfighting 
capability which the Army enterprise provides through manning, 
training, equipping, budgeting, and capability development. The Army 
Cyber Command (ARCYBER) is the Army's primary Army Service Component 
Command (ASCC) responsible for directing, and conducting integrated 
Cyberspace Operations (CO), EW, and Information Operations (IO). 
ARCYBER is the 3-star ASCC designated to serve as the focal point for 
identifying, receiving, integrating, synchronizing, and advocating for 
operational capability requirements through Service, Joint, and DOD-
level processes in support of Joint and Service Cyberspace Operations, 
Information Operations, and Electromagnetic Warfare.
    Personnel proponency for EW belongs to the Cyber Center of 
Excellence aligned under the Combined Arms Center and U.S. Army 
Training and Doctrine Command (TRADOC). Modernization proponency of EW 
belongs to Army Futures Command (AFC) for force design and force 
development and is the capabilities developer and operational architect 
for the future Army. In addition, the Assistant Secretary of the Army 
for Acquisition, Logistics, and Technology (ASA(ALT)) and U.S. Army 
Materiel Command (AMC) is responsible sustainment and logistics of EW 
materiel. The Deputy Chief of Staff (DCS), G-3/5/7 is the Army's lead 
integrator and synchronizer across force modernization time horizons. 
The G-3/5/7 performs force modernization activities and uses the Army 
Campaign Plan to execute these activities and reach decisions through 
the Army Synchronization Meeting. Coordinated and synchronized, ARCYBER 
will manage EW requirements as the Army Command focused on integrated 
cyberspace operations and EW capabilities. Last, Forces Command 
(FORSCOM) along with Human Resources Command (HRC) are responsible for 
providing, assigning and stationing of EW Soldiers to ASCCs, Army 
Commands, Field Operating Agencies and Direct Reporting Units.

    41. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, IF NOT, today's threat 
environment seems misaligned to picking winners and losers for 
employing capabilities designed to enhance survivability and lethality 
during Large-Scale Combat Operations (LSCO) or below the threshold of 
armed conflict. What do you need from us to push this critical effort 
across the finish line?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is investing in three major EW 
programs. First is the Terrestrial Layered System (TLS) which provides 
commanders an integrated SIGINT/EW/Cyber capability at all echelons. 
Each echelon is tailored for their specific operations and likely 
adversary signals of interest. Second, is the Multi-Function Electronic 
Warfare--Air Large (MFEW-AL). This system is an EW pod that supports 
Divisions and BCTs with all facets of EW. It is currently configured to 
mount to the Gray Eagle, however, it is platform agnostic. Third, is 
the Electronic Warfare Planning & Management Tool (EWPMT). EWPMT is the 
cornerstone for EW capabilities and provides command and control for EW 
and spectrum management.
    TLS is an integrated Ground Tactical SIGINT/EW/ and RF-Enabled 
Cyber capability. It will be developed in two (2) variants--Brigade 
Combat Team (BCT) and Echelon Above Brigade (EAB). TLS-Brigade Combat 
Team (BCT) will be fielded on a platform based on the type of formation 
(e.g. Stryker for Stryker BCT, Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicle (AMPV) for 
Armored BCT, and a dismounted manpack for Infantry BCT). The First Unit 
Issue for Stryker is fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025 for AMPV. 
TLS-EAB will be fielded on a Family of Medium Tactical Vehicles (FMTV) 
to MDTFs, Corps, and Divisions with First Unit Issue in fiscal year 
2026.
    MFEW-Air Large is in the testing phase and will be fielded to 
Division Combat Aviation Brigades (CABs). First Unit Issue is fiscal 
year 2025.
    EWPMT is a software-based program that provides the Common 
Operating Picture, situational awareness, and planning capabilities 
within the Electromagnetic Spectrum. It will synchronize all Army EW 
efforts and is being fielded in fiscal year 2024.
    To push the critical effort of employing EW capabilities with 
today's threat environment, the Army will work with DOD to ensure 
enabling policies directives are developed to allow for actions in the 
electromagnetic spectrum that provide Commander's options to support 
campaigning and integrated deterrence in support of national defense 
priorities.

                                m-shorad
    42. Senator Peters. Secretary Wormuth, what is the plan to move 
beyond the initial four battalion goal for MSHORAD and resource the 
Army's stated need of up to nine battalions of this critical air 
defense capability? How can Congress help you achieve your goal of nine 
battalions?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army uses all components to resource 
required capabilities and will welcome any assistance with 
modernization. Fielding additional Maneuver Short Range Air Defense (M-
SHORAD) battalions (BNs) will help tactical formations defeat aerial 
threats that could limit the Army's ability to conduct multi-domain 
operations. We have three Active Component M-SHORAD BNs with a fourth 
activating in fiscal year 2025. The National Guard will convert four 
Avenger Battalions to M-SHORAD BNs starting in fiscal year 2027 upon 
materiel procurement. The Army will use future Total Army Analyses to 
determine how to create additional M-SHORAD BNs in our force structure.

                                 c-uas
    43. Senator Peters. General McConville, when does the Army intend 
to resource a counter small, unmanned aircraft system (C-sUAS) single 
vehicle solution?
    General McConville. The Army has programmed funding for nine 
Counter-small Unmanned Aircraft System (C-sUAS) Division Sets to 
protect critical assets and maneuver formations from the sUAS threat. 
The current composition of those Division Sets includes the two-vehicle 
configuration of the Mobile, Low, Slow, Unmanned Aircraft Integrated 
Defeat System (M-LIDS). The Air and Missile Defense Cross Functional 
Team (AMD CFT), as the Army's C-sUAS lead for operational requirements 
and capability development, continues to evaluate new capabilities and 
emerging technologies to keep pace with the evolving sUAS threat. The 
Army is assessing opportunities to move toward a single-vehicle 
configuration at the earliest opportunity and will request resourcing 
in the appropriate year. The Army appreciates Congress's continued 
support as the Army continues to develop C-sUAS capabilities to address 
the evolving threat.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                 remote maintenance support to ukraine
    44. Senator Rosen. Secretary Wormuth, as you saw during your visit 
to Poland last year, the Army is providing remote maintenance teams to 
allow Ukrainians on the frontlines to receive immediate advice from 
U.S. Soldiers on weapons and equipment maintenance. As Ukraine receives 
more advanced equipment, such as Abrams tanks and the Patriot missile 
defense system, the demand for these teams and capabilities will grow. 
What is the Army doing to expand this program and ensure it is equipped 
to efficiently and accurately respond to requests from the battlefield, 
particularly as we expect Ukraine to soon mount a counteroffensive?
    Secretary Wormuth. Remote Maintenance Operations (RMO) are 
conducted at the Remote Maintenance and Distribution Center-Ukraine 
(RDC-U) in Jasionka/Rzeszow, Poland. While uniformed servicemembers are 
present to administer the RMO program, remote maintenance is currently 
being conducted by contracted Field Service Representatives (FSRs) from 
OEMs and defense industry partners. FSRs directly engage with Ukrainian 
Armed Forces (UAF) users and depots to identify faults, troubleshoot, 
and determine repair part requirements via group chats.
    There are currently 29 U.S. platforms and 33 International 
platforms supported by the Remote Maintenance Cell at RDC-U, to include 
Patriot. FSRs for M1 Abrams are expected to establish presence at RDC-U 
following the completion of initial training and transfer of Abrams to 
the UAF.
    While the remote maintenance operation concept has been proven to 
be an essential enabler of UAF combat readiness, office space for FSRs 
at the RDC-U is quickly becoming limited. The RDC-U command team has 
requested Special Assistance Group-Ukraine (SAG-U)/J4 to establish a 
process to validate FSR requirements. Based on the complexity and 
number of components in a platform or weapon system, the number of FSRs 
required can vary greatly. For example, there are 45 FSRs at the RDC-U 
to support the Patriot while there is 1 FSR each for M777 and Bradley 
Fighting Vehicles.
    As an alternative method, several coalition partners support 
internationally donated platforms by conducting remote maintenance from 
the host country. This and other alternatives will be a consideration 
for SAG-U's validation process of FSR requirements. Additionally, all 
chat rooms are being supported by a pool of contracted interpreters 
which will be considered as the increased number of FSRs and platforms 
will require increased interpreter support.
                  army's implementation of zero trust
    45. Senator Rosen. General McConville, in November, the Department 
of Defense released its Zero Trust Strategy and Roadmap, which lists as 
a key goal technological acceleration at a pace that equals or exceeds 
industry advancements. I am encouraged by the Army's efforts to 
accelerate its digital transformation by requesting $439 million for 
Zero Trust Implementation and $95 million for defensive cyber tools. In 
addition to funding critical digital infrastructure necessary for Zero 
Trust implementation, what is the Army's strategy to accelerate its 
technological advancements?
    General McConville. The Army completed a comprehensive Network 
Capability Portfolio Review (N-CPR) of Army network requirements from 
enterprise to tactical levels to ensure the Army has a complete set of 
stable requirements for advancing the Unified Network, underpinned by 
Zero Trust (ZT) principles. The CPR examined network operations, cloud 
and data center infrastructure, transport, software, services and ZT 
implementation.
    Informed by the N-CPR, the Army Unified Network Plan and 
Implementation Plan established the strategic direction and specific 
activities required for the Army to modernize its networks and 
accelerate initial ZT capabilities during fiscal year 2023-2024.
    The Army established the Army Functional Management Office--Zero 
Trust to synchronize, implement, and execute Army ZT efforts across the 
enterprise to ensure prioritization, resourcing, and alignment with DOD 
and Service ZT directives, goals, and objectives.
    As part of the strategy, the Army accelerated Identity, Credential, 
and Access Management, a foundational capability to zero trust, that 
provides endpoint security and compliance. Additionally, the Army is 
collapsing several stovepipe networks under Army Cyber Command to 
ensure a common security approach across the Army. These accelerated 
activities underpin enhanced ZT capabilities in fiscal year 2025-2026 
to include Software Defined Networking, Data Tagging, and Automated 
Incident Response. The Army's goal is to reach a complete ZT 
architecture by fiscal year 2027.
    This effort will culminate in a Unified Network based on ZT 
principles, aligned to the DOD Strategy, and will deliver a survivable, 
secure, end-to-end capability that enables the Army to operate as part 
of the Joint Force across the competition continuum in all operational 
domains.

    46. Senator Rosen. General McConville, how do you plan to allocate 
resources to attract a sufficiently skilled workforce in this domain?
    General McConville. The Network Capability Portfolio Review (N-CPR) 
also addressed the required workforce necessary to develop and maintain 
a unified network aligned with Zero Trust (ZT) principles. The Army 
continues to use all authorities by Congress to attract the most 
skilled workforce in this domain. Specifically, the Army is currently 
expanding the Cyber Excepted Service alternate personnel system, which 
provides enhanced flexibilities to recruit, compensate, and retain 
civilian talent for cyber workforce positions.
    Additionally, the Army is capitalizing on workforce flexibilities 
as a key component in identifying, attracting, and maintaining talent. 
A current example is the Targeted Local Market Supplement (TLMS), which 
provides additional compensation incentives for critical cyber work 
roles. Simultaneously, the Army is developing and employing key 
execution enablers such as ZT Curriculum for the workforce and Army 
Regulations that incorporate ZT principles. These efforts will enable 
us to both attract and maintain a sufficiently skilled workforce.
                army's multi-domain task forces (mdtfs)
    47. Senator Rosen. General McConville, the Army describes the 
Multi-Domain Task Forces (MDTFs) as theater-level maneuver elements 
that are designed to employ long-range precision effects to combat our 
adversaries' ``anti-access/area denial'' networks in all domains. The 
Army has further described the MDTF as the ``centerpiece'' of its 
ability to operate in a highly contested multi-domain environment. 
Should future military engagement in the Taiwan Strait involve our 
allies and partners, what steps is the Army taking to ensure that the 
MDTFs can generate multinational interoperability?
    General McConville. The development of the Multi-Domain Task Forces 
has always been intended to provide the range, speed, and convergence 
of cutting-edge technologies that gives the Joint Force Commander the 
decision dominance and overmatch required to fight and win.
    The Army has collaborated with key Allies in the development of 
some of the technologies that are organic to the MDTF as well as 
collaboration in exercises with those Allies related to the employment 
of this new formation. During Project Convergence 2022, the Army 
prioritized assessing the all-service ability to connect and 
collaborate with allied nations.
    The Army will be able to integrate with Allies or partners in the 
employment of certain capabilities of the MDTF while ultimately 
providing the Joint Force with the overmatch necessary to fulfill the 
Combatant Commander's requirements. Examples of this integration is IAW 
the Australia, United Kingdom, United States (AUKUS) tri-signed 
Statement of Intent to develop and provide joint advanced military 
capabilities to promote security and stability in the Indo-Pacific 
region.

    48. Senator Rosen. General McConville, is there a plan to station 
future MDTFs in, or closer to, theater in an effort to better integrate 
our multinational partners?
    General McConville. Ultimately, the decision to station forces 
overseas is reserved for the Secretary of Defense and the National 
Security Council. Based on the priorities established in the National 
Defense Strategy, the Army will determine the appropriate support to 
the Pacific, Europe, and integrated deterrence.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                         human machine teaming
    49. Senator Kelly. Secretary Wormuth, as Chair of the Airland 
Subcommittee, I met with General Rainey, the commander of Army Futures 
Command, a few weeks ago. We had a great conversation about the success 
of the last Project Convergence exercise at Yuma Proving Ground in 
Arizona, as well as some of his priorities. We talked about development 
of uncrewed vehicles and the ability to offload menial tasks, 
logistics, re-supply capabilities on machines. I see a lot of potential 
with human-machine teaming. We've seen the success in the air with 
remotely piloted aircraft, and I want to see success on the ground. 
What is your vision for how you see human-machine teaming working in 
the future for the Army?
    Secretary Wormuth. Human machine teaming is a complicated 
initiative with exciting possibilities for the reduction in cognitive 
load for soldiers, increased operational capabilities at every level 
from the squad up, and enhanced logistics to remove soldiers from 
harm's way by reducing the need for human operators in certain 
circumstances. The Army is investing $74.3 million (Science and 
Technology (S&T)) in fiscal year 2024 to address the questions of how 
to integrate human-machine teams, and how to best leverage the unique 
strengths of human-machine teams. Key research areas for human-machine 
teaming for autonomy include the allocation and switching of 
operational tasks to both human and machine team members; enabling 
soldiers to rapidly train and adapt machines in the field; a means to 
assess human-machine teams; and tools to enable mission planning and 
after mission assessment. S&T initiatives are demonstrating flexible, 
adaptive interactions between soldiers and unmanned assets including in 
the areas of autonomous mobility technologies and weapon engagement 
systems to enable robust manned-unmanned team dynamic environments. The 
Army's goals are to demonstrate data-driven task handoff in 2024, 
dynamic-retasking and custom situational awareness by role in 2026, 
with more natural interactions being demonstrated in 2028.

    50. Senator Kelly. Secretary Wormuth, this is something I hear 
about from innovators in Arizona. How are you thinking about onboarding 
these capabilities?
    Secretary Wormuth. Onboarding and leveraging the full potential of 
Robotic Enabled Maneuver requires an integrated and phased approach. 
Interdependent and mutually supporting themes of soldiers, data, and 
technology will adapt and undergo a cultural change to deliver a modern 
capability that can be constantly adapted in response to both threats 
and tech maturity. Key to aligning and delivering Robotic Autonomous 
System capabilities is the development of suitable processes and trust, 
all of which underpin the effective employment of Robotic Enabled 
Maneuver.

    51. Senator Kelly. Secretary Wormuth, how will these efforts 
support us in future conflicts?
    Secretary Wormuth. Robotic and autonomous systems will exist in 
future conflicts operating both with and against U.S. forces. The 
challenge is to learn how to best use robotic and autonomous systems to 
gain and maintain the advantage on the battlefield. AFC's campaign of 
persistent experimentation is designed to drive the learning that gives 
us that advantage.

    52. Senator Kelly. Secretary Wormuth, what is the roadmap for 
development, and how does the Army's budget request support these 
efforts?
    Secretary Wormuth. Human machine teaming is a complicated problem 
with exciting possibilities for the reduction in cognitive load for 
soldiers, increased operational capabilities at every level from the 
squad up, and enhanced logistics to remove soldiers from harm's way by 
reducing the need for human operators in certain circumstances. Science 
and Technology (S&T) is investing $74.3 million in fiscal year 2024 to 
answer the questions of how to integrate human-machine teams, and how 
to best leverage the unique strengths of human-machine teams. Key 
research areas for human-machine teaming for autonomy include the 
allocation and switching of operational tasks to both human and machine 
team members; enabling soldiers to rapidly train and adapt machines in 
the field; a means to assess human-machine teams; and tools to enable 
mission planning and after mission assessment. S&T is demonstrating 
flexible, adaptive interactions between soldiers and unmanned assets 
including autonomous mobility technologies and weapon engagement 
systems to enable robust manned-unmanned team dynamic environments. The 
Army's goals are to demonstrate data-driven task handoff in 2024, 
dynamic-retasking and custom situational awareness by role in 2026, 
with more natural interactions being demonstrated in 2028.

    53. Senator Kelly. Secretary Wormuth, what obstacles do you see in 
the future with these efforts, and is there anything Congress can do to 
help?
    Secretary Wormuth. The biggest obstacles to the Army's development 
and fielding of ground maneuver robotics systems include the 
development of technologies and software for autonomous cross-country 
maneuver and human-machine integrated command and control. Rapid 
technological advances in these areas are primarily driven by Army 
investments since commercial industry focuses on on-road autonomous 
technologies. Additional Army funding would increase the speed of 
innovation and support the accelerated development of the Army's 
marquee ground robotics effort--the Robotic Combat Vehicle (RCV).
    Additional funding for the RCV program will enable the Army to 
accelerate development of human-machine teams capable of fighting as a 
robotic enabled maneuver element, which combines crewed combat and 
control vehicles with robotic combat vehicles capable of performing in 
operationally relevant off-road, all-weather, and limited visibility 
combat conditions. Further, the Army would be able to accelerate the 
development of a robust and resilient network and modular payload 
integration on the RCVs. These payloads enable Army formations to 
counter the increased threat of enemy unmanned aerial systems, employ 
electronic warfare capabilities, and launch loitering munitions. 
Increased funding for software development would improve the RCV's 
cross-country mobility and enable the transfer of more tasks from 
remote operation to autonomous operation, which would reduce soldiers' 
cognitive loads and accelerate the decisionmaking process.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Roger Wicker
                           medevac operations
    54. Senator Wicker. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, as we 
look to improve the readiness of the Army in a Great Power competition, 
the speed and consistency of things like MEDEVAC operations take on a 
new level of urgency. The longer a helicopter is in a hovering position 
to extract a wounded soldier, the more our soldiers and aircraft are at 
risk to incoming enemy fire and engine failure related incidents. Any 
accelerating capability would also have a dual use during peacetime, as 
MEDEVAC-like operations are routinely conducted by the National Guard 
in search and rescue missions following natural disasters. What dual 
use capabilities are currently being evaluated by the Army that would 
accelerate and improve the confidence of these extractions in the 
field, and is there anything we can do to accelerate the adoption of 
these capabilities into the Army and National Guard?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. Currently, the Army has 
three operational techniques for Medical Evacuation (MEDEVAC) missions, 
with a fourth one under user testing. These techniques can be used in 
both combat and homeland support scenarios. At present, there are no 
suggestions to speed up the adoption of these strategies since they are 
in the developmental testing phase or currently being used. Three 
systems (dynamic hoist, tag line, and Vita Rescue System-Litter 
Attachment (VRS-LA)) are currently in development. One technology, the 
Cascade Rescue Stable Flight Heli-Bag, was recently approved for use on 
Army Aircraft, the Heli-Bag uses an aerodynamic brake (rudder) to 
mitigate the spin and oscillation caused by rotor downwash. It provides 
patient immobilization and containment. This system can be combined 
with the dynamic hoist technique or used during stationary hovering. 
It's presently being utilized by certain Army National Guard and 
Special Operations Units.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                          munitions production
    55. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, the Russian invasion of 
Ukraine highlighted a longstanding problem in our defense industrial 
base. Our nation simply does not produce munitions fast enough. This is 
not about Ukraine depleting our war stocks--most of the munitions used 
in Taiwan would be fundamentally different than the ones used in 
Ukraine. This is about the fact that Ukraine has exposed some cracks in 
our defense industrial base that we need to shore up to ensure our 
national security. Here's some sobering facts: In 1945, the U.S. 
operated 86 ammunition plants. Today, we operate five. In 1 week, the 
Ukrainian military fires more 155mm artillery shells than the U.S. 
produces in a month. In the first 8 months of the war, the Ukrainians 
launched more Javelin antitank missiles than the U.S. produces in 5 
years, and fired more Stinger anti-aircraft missiles than we 
manufacture in 13 years. Beyond Ukraine, war games have shown that the 
U.S. would run out of some munitions in less than 1 week in a Taiwan 
conflict. While DOD has made significant strides in beginning to 
increase our munitions stockpile, I remain concerned about the scale 
and efficiency of its munitions production. We must act with the 
urgency this situation requires. What concrete steps are you taking to 
decrease delivery times?
    Secretary Wormuth. In order to accelerate deliveries, the Army is 
reducing acquisition and contracting lead times by taking advantage of 
the new authorities granted by Section 1244 of the fiscal year 2023 
National Defense Authorization Act that allow for streamlined staffing 
of Justification and Approval documents and increased flexibilities for 
Undefinitized Contract Actions. The Army is also working to reduce 
production lead times by ramping up capacity where the Army can and 
employing second and third-shifts on certain production lines.
    Additionally, the Army is working in close coordination with 
industry partners on three lines of effort to accelerate and increase 
deliveries: 1) the expansion and modernization of government-owned, 
contractor operated facilities; 2) the establishment of contractor 
owned, contractor operated second sources; and, 3) leveraging 
international partnerships for end items and component production.
    Last, the Army is using supplemental funds provided by Congress to 
shore up current production lines and add additional production lines 
to expedite the replenishment of U.S. stockpiles.

    56. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, what are your main 
challenges?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army's main challenges are speeding up 
facility modernization, increasing production capacity in a timely 
fashion to support present requirements, and forecasting future 
requirements from allies. In addition, the Army has identified certain 
munitions components and precursor materials--such as propellants and 
explosives, and nitrocellulose--that are experiencing supply challenges 
due to a spike in global demand. The Army is currently exploring means 
to secure those sources of supply, including options to onshore many of 
them.

    57. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, what can Congress do to 
break down barriers for you?
    Secretary Wormuth. Congress is providing key support to enable the 
Army to rapidly respond to Russia's war against Ukraine and to expand 
production capacity within the munitions industrial base. In 
particular, the Army is greatly benefited from the temporary 
contracting and acquisition authorities provided under Section 1244 of 
the fiscal year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act that have 
allowed the Army to more rapidly award contracts to provide 
capabilities to Ukraine, to allies and partners who are assisting 
Ukraine, and to replenish domestic stocks. Importantly, Section 1244 
also provides the authority to enter into multiyear contracts for a 
select set of munitions. The Army plans to use this authority for 
munitions in fiscal year 2023 and have requested congressional approval 
to enter into multiyear procurements (MYP) in fiscal year 2024. These 
MYPs provide production stability and predictability to industry 
partners, allowing us to build and sustain capacity within the defense 
industrial base, while achieving cost savings for the government. 
Additionally, congressional support of the Army's fiscal year 2024 
budget request will be valuable as the request includes significant 
funding for a range of munitions, including precisions munitions and 
artillery ammunition, as well as investments in the munitions 
industrial base.

    58. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, bolstering our defense 
industrial base it critical. Multi-Year procurement authorities are one 
of the ways we can help provide a steady demand signal to defense 
companies. Per your budget request, the Army still has yet to leverage 
Multi-Year procurement authorities but have stated you are looking at 
it for the PAC-3 (patriot anti-aircraft system missile) and the GMLRS 
(artillery round). When should we expect to see that?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army has submitted MYP requests to Congress 
for PATRIOT Advanced Capability (PAC-3) Missile Segment Enhancement 
(MSE) and Guided Multiple Launch Rocket System (GMLRS).
    The Army also submitted fiscal year 2023 MYP requests for the 155mm 
M1128 projectile program and the Modular Artillery Charge System 
program. Initial contract awards for these programs are expected in 
fiscal 2023.

    59. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, why are you only using these 
authorities for two systems?
    Secretary Wormuth. In addition to the four planned MYP 
opportunities already identified, the Army continues to explore 
additional systems where use of MYP authority may make sense. The four 
planned MYP contracts were identified due to the priority of the 
requirement and, moving forward, we will take a managed risk approach 
prior to applying the authority to more programs. One of the key 
challenges in implementing MYP contracts is having a stable funding 
profile over time. Historically, the ammunition portfolio has not had 
stable funding profiles, and thus has not met the criteria for MYP 
implementation.

    60. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, PrSM is one of your key long 
range fires capabilities. Have you considered multi-year procurement 
for PrSM?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is not considering utilizing MYP 
authority for the Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) program at this time. 
PrSM, Increment 1, continues to execute the engineering and 
manufacturing development (EMD) phase of the program through fiscal 
year 2025. Key activities include Production Qualification flight 
Testing and validating the missile design meets Key Performance 
Parameters requirements. Once completed, the program will conduct a 
Production Readiness Review and request Milestone C approval for Full 
Rate Production (FRP). Based on the current program plan, MYP would be 
considered beginning in fiscal year 2026 at the earliest. In the 
interim, PrSM will begin delivering limited quantities of Early 
Operational Capability missiles in 4th quarter fiscal year 2023 and 
continue until FRP occurs.

    61. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, are there steps you can take 
to accelerate its delivery?
    Secretary Wormuth. The program could conduct analysis with the 
prime contractor and key missile component suppliers to add shift work, 
additional overtime, examine supply chain bottlenecks, and other 
factors, to accelerate PrSM production. Currently, the program is 
executing two more years of technical integration, test, and 
manufacturing development to mature and document the design and 
associated technical data, therefore an acceleration of deliveries is 
not advisable until the program achieves Full Rate Production in fiscal 
year 2025.

    62. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, will you still be able to 
effectively execute multi-year procurement authorities under a 
continuing resolution?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes, the Army will be able to effectively 
execute MYP under a continuing resolution. The programs that the Army 
has identified for MYP contracts are not new starts. Therefore, each 
system can be funded up to the level of what was appropriated in fiscal 
year 2023.

    63. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, another key vulnerability of 
our munitions base is our reliance on foreign nations--at times sworn 
enemies--for essential materials. DOD does not purchase any munitions 
fully sourced in the U.S.--not a single bullet, bomb, or missile. 
Secretary Wormuth, can you tell me what percentage of the Army 
munitions supply chain relies on China?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is currently executing a Munitions 
Assurance program with the goal of identifying and mitigating those 
components or precursor materials that come from foreign sources. 
Mitigation plans include, but are not limited to, onshoring the 
components and materials in question, and developing new products that 
``design out'' the material or component. The Army can provide 
additional detail in a classified setting.

    64. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, do you believe any 
dependence is acceptable?
    Secretary Wormuth. I believe that dependence on critical materials 
from potentially adversarial nations is not within our national 
interest, and that is why sourcing mitigating dependence of foreign 
sources is a top priority for management of the industrial base.

    65. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, are you worried that China 
would attempt to cutoff our access to rare earth material critical to 
our munitions development the way they did with Japan in 2010?
    Secretary Wormuth. I would expect any potential adversary to 
utilize all their levers of power if deemed advantageous to their aims.

    66. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, what steps are you taking to 
end this dependence?
    Secretary Wormuth. The tools available to the Army for mitigation 
include: 1) The ability to establish safety stocks or stockpiles of 
materials where that is feasible and warranted, 2) The establishment of 
domestic, National Technology and Industrial Base (NTIB), or at least 
friendly nation sources of supply, and 3) Designing problematic 
materials out of the supply chain to eliminate the risk posed by them.
    Authorities granted to expand the National Stockpile have enabled 
the addition or expansion of several materials important to munitions 
production. The Army has and will continue to leverage the authorities 
provided under Defense Production Act Title III to establish domestic 
or NTIB sources of supply for materials sourced from potentially 
adversarial nations. In addition, Defense Logistics Agency sponsored 
Small Business Innovative Research efforts are being leveraged to 
establish more favorable sources of supply for materials. Science and 
Technology efforts are underway to design alternate paths to achieve 
munitions solutions that do not require materials sourced from 
potentially adversarial nations. Once mature, these solutions would be 
transitioned into munitions programs.

    67. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, Army stated that much of 
your munitions' requirements have been met by Ukraine supplemental 
funds, which are not reflected in this budget. What is your estimate of 
how much funding you have or will received from the appropriated 
supplemental funds?
    Secretary Wormuth. To date, the Army has received $2.1 billion in 
Ukraine supplemental funding for munitions.

    68. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, are you confident that this 
request, in addition to Ukraine supplemental funding already provided, 
will allow you to replenish your stocks to maintain U.S. readiness?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is confident that the supplemental 
funding requested will be approved for distribution to the Army for 
replenishment.

    69. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, as the war in Ukraine has 
shown, our allies' munitions stockpiles will be crucial to any future 
conflict. What steps are is the Army taking to ensure our allies have 
the munitions they need in case of conflict?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army is working with allies to replenish 
munitions stockpiles by supplementing current production lines with 
U.S. munitions. This is based on ally stock requirements and current 
production efforts to support replenishment efforts within ally 
industrial bases. The Army is also working closely with allies to make 
munitions fully interoperable with their weapons and fire control 
systems.

    70. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, are there any additional 
authorities or resources you need?
    Secretary Wormuth. The Army has received considerable support from 
Congress to enhance munitions production. Specifically, the temporary 
authorities provided under Section 1244 of the fiscal year 2023 
National Defense Authorization Act enable the Army to accelerate 
munitions production through contracting flexibilities and the 
authority to commit to multiyear procurement contracts for select 
munitions beginning in fiscal year 2023. The Army will work with 
Congress to assess the need for extending or modifying these 
authorities, as appropriate, given the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. 
Additionally, the supplemental funding provided by Congress has allowed 
the Army to meet many of its munitions-related requirements. The Army's 
fiscal year 2024 budget request includes significant additional funding 
for a range of munitions and investments in the munitions industrial 
base. Congressional support for this request will enable the Army to 
continue meeting those requirements.

    71. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, the Army budget invests in 
the defense industrial base, with $726 million slated for ammunition 
facilities and another $115 million for modernization and upgrades for 
depots that work on weapons and tracked combat vehicles. Will this 
funding provide you with adequate capacity to meet all of your munition 
production goals?
    Secretary Wormuth. At this time, yes. However, efforts to further 
accelerate artillery production are being developed and if approved by 
OSD will be provided to Congress in the near future. In addition, the 
replenishment funding provided to the Army to date is adequate for 
replenishing stockpiles and supporting Ukraine efforts for present and 
forecasted worldwide munitions requirements.

    72. Senator Cotton. Secretary Wormuth, if not, where do you need 
additional investment to expand capacity?
    Secretary Wormuth. Likely, the Army will need additional investment 
to expand capacity. The Army is working on needed investments in 
artillery shell and propellant charge production to further accelerate 
and sustain the planned ramp up in production. The Army is working to 
get that to Congress for consideration in a Ukraine Replenishment 
Tranche request very soon. In addition, there are enduring requirements 
outlined in the Army Ammunition Modernization Plan that will help 
sustain the needed capacity. The report is provided to Congress on a 
yearly basis, with the latest delivered in March 2023.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                 department of education noncompliance
    73. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth, would you agree that those 
administrators of schools that deny access to recruiters are harming 
your recruitment effort?
    Secretary Wormuth. Administrators who deny or limit the access of 
Recruiting noncommissioned officers (NCO) into schools impede the 
Army's recruiting ability. Meaningful, face-to-face interactions 
between our Recruiting NCOs and potential applicants is the best way 
for students to learn about the opportunities and benefits the military 
offers and what military service is really like. In schools where 
Recruiting NCOs are unable to speak with students, or are not supported 
by administrators and teachers, it is difficult to ensure those youth 
are aware of the opportunities and benefits available to them through 
military service. Recruiting NCOs are not seeking access to convince 
every student to join, but instead to have the opportunity to educate 
today's youth about opportunities, benefits, and the role the Army 
plays in supporting and defending the Constitution; in the end allowing 
students to make informed decisions about their future.

    74. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth, would you further agree that 
the Federal Government must enforce the law--including by withholding 
funds?
    Secretary Wormuth. Withholding Federal funding is an available 
tool. However, in most cases, access issues can be resolved through 
leader engagement. Professional relationships between Army Recruiters 
and the school administration are crucial and when local, State, and 
Federal leadership also support those relationships, it is truly 
invaluable. The Army fully recognizes that school districts have State 
and local education requirements that must be met during the calendar 
year and the Army's Recruiting NCOs do their best to work with schools 
to achieve the best balance to achieve mutual success. The Army 
continues to work with local education officials to improve access and 
in most cases, issues of denying access can be resolved through 
proactive leader engagement at all levels. This approach opens doors 
for Recruiting NCOs to develop rapport with school administrators, 
teachers, and student bodies. It takes time, but quality, meaningful 
access is almost always achieved as relationships and trust develop. 
The Army also supports a whole-of-government approach to ensure 
relationships are built, sustained, and where needed, created if they 
are not present. Local, State and Federal leadership and agencies play 
a crucial role in developing trust and sustaining meaningful 
relationships.

    75. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth, what are you going to do to 
ensure recruiter access?
    Secretary Wormuth. Army leaders continue to work with our local 
recruiting partners (Civilian Aides to the Secretary of the Army 
(CASAs), influencers, community partners, Superintendents etc.) to 
increase meaningful access to schools. For example, in January 2023, 
U.S. Army Recruiting Command (USAREC) reported approximately 400 of 
17,000 high schools denied access to Recruiters. However, USAREC made 
significant progress by leveraging CASAs, Army Reserve Ambassadors, and 
local leaders and regained access to all but one high school between 
January and March 2023. The Army continues to experience success 
accessing student populations across the country. One example is 
through USAREC's ``High School Blitz'' in which they conduct hundreds 
of high school engagements on a weekly basis. A few challenges that 
recruiters have faced include the belief that college remains the only 
viable option for post-high school education, which further creates a 
disconnect between communities and the military. Recruiters are 
overcoming this challenge as they continue to develop a positive 
rapport with school administrators, teachers, and student bodies. These 
relationships take time but significant progress is being made in 
building relationship that led to open lines of communication and fact 
sharing.

    76. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth, will you commit to report 
back on your progress in 60 days?
    Secretary Wormuth. Yes--the Army can provide an update for full 
transparency in efforts to improve meaningful access to high schools 
across the country.

                       preventing threats to nato
    77. Senator Ernst. General McConville, has degradation of Russia's 
military likely decreased our operational requirements in Europe?
    General McConville. DOD continues to assess the operational 
requirements in Europe following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The Army 
contributes to the ongoing evaluation of requirements in Europe to 
ensure the right capabilities fulfill requirements while preserving the 
readiness of forces. The Army continues to provide trained and ready 
forces to Europe to support operational requirements determined by the 
Commander, U.S. European Command and approved by the Secretary of 
Defense. Rotational and forward-stationed Army forces in Europe are 
actively contributing to deterrence by integrating with Allies and 
partners and participating in training exercises. It is important to 
note that only Russia's conventional ground forces have been degraded 
and they still remain a significant threat. Also, Russia still remains 
lethal air, naval, hybrid, and strategic/non-strategic nuclear 
capabilities. For this reason, deterrence and defense of Europe through 
NATO will remain a priority.
          ground-based missile capabilities in western pacific
    78. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help availability of 
persistent, prompt, and survivable strike options?
    General McConville. Yes, the synergy and the varied capabilities of 
the services long range fire capabilities work in concert to provide 
complex dilemmas for an adversary allowing the DOD to synchronize 
efforts against singular or numerous targets simultaneously. Missile 
platforms are rapidly transported via air or sea to engage enemy forces 
throughout the Western Pacific which avoids lingering to become targets 
for enemy counter fire.

    79. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help deter of enemy 
attack or escalation?
    General McConville. Yes, U.S. ground-launched, theater-range 
missiles in the Western Pacific in mutually supporting relationships 
with their air and maritime launched counterparts provide a combined 
arms threat to enemy forces. This increased lethality affects enemy 
decision calculus and contributes to deterring attack or escalation by 
greatly increasing the joint force's capability to impose operational 
costs on enemy forces. In addition, the inclusion of ground-launched 
theater-range missile capability requires the enemy to allocate kinetic 
and non-kinetic resources to seek and destroy these assets diminishing 
enemy capacity to concentrate efforts on a singular DOD service.

    80. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help impose of 
operational costs on enemy forces?
    General McConville. Yes, U.S. ground-launched, theater-range 
missiles in the Western Pacific in mutually supporting relationships 
with their air and maritime launched counterparts provide a combined 
arms threat to enemy forces far beyond the threat that each individual 
platform would pose individually. This increased lethality greatly 
increases the joint force's capability to impose operational costs on 
enemy forces and contributes to deterring attack or escalation by 
affecting enemy decision calculus.

    81. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help deliver responsive 
strikes against time-critical enemy targets?
    General McConville. Yes, the persistent presence of U.S. ground-
launched, theater-range missiles in the first and second island chains 
provides a proximity and high reload speed that helps deliver 
responsive strikes against time-critical targets. In mutually 
supporting relationships with their air and maritime launched 
counterparts, ground launched capabilities provide a combined arms 
threat to enemy forces far beyond the threat that each individual 
platform would pose individually.

    82. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched, 
theater-range missiles in the Western Pacific help destroy high-value 
targets to enable other joint forces?
    General McConville. Yes, U.S. ground-launched, theater-range 
missiles in the Western Pacific with their persistent presence, high 
reload speeds, and proximity to enemy targets form a mutually 
supporting relationships with their air and maritime launched 
counterparts and provide a combined arms threat to enemy forces far 
beyond the threat that each individual platform would pose 
individually.

    83. Senator Ernst. General McConville, would U.S. ground-launched 
missiles at various ranges and launch locations in the Western Pacific 
create dilemmas for enemy forces?
    General McConville. Yes, U.S. ground-launched, theater-range 
missiles in the Western Pacific with various capabilities complicate 
enemy decision calculus to include ranges and launch locations creating 
dilemmas for an adversary through supporting relationships from 
multiple domains providing long range fires from air, ground, and 
maritime launched (both from the surface and sub-surface fleet) 
creating a joint combined arms threat to enemy forces far beyond the 
threat that each individual platform would pose individually.
                    short range air defense systems
    84. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the plan to move beyond the initial 4 battalion goal for MSHORAD and 
resource the Army's stated need of up to 9 battalions of this critical 
air defense capability?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army utilizes all 
components to resource required capabilities and will welcome any 
assistance with modernization. Fielding additional M-SHORAD Battalions 
will help the Army's tactical formations defeat aerial threats that 
could limit ability to conduct multi-domain operations. The Army will 
have to balance increased force structure to modernize the Army of 
2030. Guided by the National Defense Strategy, the Army is in the 
process of determining how and where to make these changes. Once 
analysis is complete and documented in structure, the Army will assess 
impacts to modernization priorities and Army procurement.

    85. Senator Ernst. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, what 
is the Army's current timeline to resource a counter small, unmanned 
aircraft system (C-sUAS) single vehicle solution?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army has programmed 
funding for nine C-sUAS Division Sets to protect critical assets and 
maneuver formations from the sUAS threat. The current composition of 
those Division Sets includes the two-vehicle configuration of the 
Mobile, Low, Slow, Unmanned Aircraft Integrated Defeat System (M-LIDS). 
The Air and Missile Defense Cross Functional Team (AMD CFT), as the 
Army's C-sUAS lead for operational requirements and capability 
development, continues to evaluate new capabilities and emerging 
technologies to keep pace with the evolving sUAS threat. The Army is 
assessing opportunities to move toward a single-vehicle configuration 
at the earliest opportunity and will request resourcing in the 
appropriate year. The Army appreciates the continued support from 
Congress as the Army continues to develop C-sUAS capabilities to 
address the evolving threat.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                   multi-domain task forces in alaska
    86. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, 
since 2017, the Army has fielded three theater-specific multi-domain 
task forces capable of employing long-range precision effects to 
include intelligence collection and precision strikes. Currently, two 
of the Army's multi-domain task forces are concentrated on the PACOM 
AOR and the third is focused on EUCOM/ AFRICOM. Currently, the Army is 
looking to field a fourth and possibly a fifth multi-domain task force. 
Your department's Arctic strategy states ``with increasing levels of 
adversary activities in the region, it is essential for the U.S. Army 
to employ a calibrated force posture with units that are manned, 
trained, and equipped to maintain a credible deterrence and the first 
line of defense of the homeland.'' The study additionally rightfully 
points out the Arctic's place as a center of Strategic Competition. 
With the importance of the Arctic as laid out in your strategy on the 
region and the Army's interest in creating two more theater-specific 
multi-domain task forces, can you please speak to the benefits of 
having the next multi-domain task force in Alaska?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. MDTF stationing is a 
decision reserved for the Secretary of the Army. The Headquarters, 
Department of the Army develops options to station our limited 
resources based on operational requirements found in the National 
Defense Strategy (NDS) and the Defense Planning Guidance (DPG). The 
Army Staff is still currently assessing those requirements in our 
annual Total Army Analysis (TAA) that will be approved by the Secretary 
of the Army. Specific for the Arctic, all Arctic-capable force 
structure decisions will be aligned with the National Strategy for the 
Arctic Region and other relevant posture guidance. The Army fully 
realizes and values that Alaska is an ideal location for the 
development of new capabilities applicable to cold weather environments 
and for the threats unique to the region.

                         11th airborne division
    87. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, as 
you know, last June, on the anniversary of D-Day to be exact, the 11th 
Airborne Division or ``Arctic Angels'' was stood up at Joint-Base 
Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage. Prior to the stand up, the U.S. 
Army's Alaska Headquarters was suffering from an identity crisis which 
unfortunately was contributing to a mental health crisis among the 
soldiers in my State. Since its stand up, the 11th Airborne Division 
under General Eifler and Sergeant Major Daly has been nothing but 
remarkable for the morale of soldiers stationed in Alaska. In fact, as 
you both know, Alaska is now the top requested duty station in the 
country. Over the last few months, the 11th Airborne Division completed 
a forced entry airfield seizure in Scandinavia and next week will 
conduct an exercise called the ``Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness 
Center-Alaska Exercise.'' What lessons has the army learned on the 11th 
Airborne's successes that can be applied to other service's other 
divisions?''
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The Army is very proud of 
everything that the 11th Airborne Division has accomplished since 
standing up last summer, as the cutting edge of the Army's Arctic 
capability. In addition to what the Army is learning on the ground in 
Alaska about Arctic operations, there are two broader lessons that 
could be applied across the force.
    The first is a strong reminder that America's soldiers are always 
ready to face a challenge, no matter how great, as long as the Army 
ensures a clear sense of purpose. In the case of the 11th Airborne 
Division, this meant orienting on the developing strategic importance 
of the Arctic, but every formation has a distinct purpose that should 
animate everything from its training to a sense of esprit de corps.
    The second lesson is on the importance of symbols like the maroon 
beret of the paratrooper or the storied patch of the 11th Airborne 
Division under which the Army pulled Alaska-based forces together. 
Symbols have an important role in building collective identity and 
pride. Soldiers are motivated by those distinctive elements that mark 
them as experts or identify challenges they have overcome. The Army 
continues to harness the potential of distinctive symbols that create a 
sense of purpose and belonging attractive to recruits, for diverse 
units across the Army.
                      suicide prevention in alaska
    88. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, as 
you know, unfortunately on Monday a soldier in Alaska died by suicide. 
While the suicide rate among soldiers assigned to Alaska has dropped, 
from 17 in 2021 to 6 in 2022, we can all agree that one is too many. I 
do want to commend both your and the rest of the Army's response on 
this difficult, difficult issue. Part of your response so far has 
included sending 40 mental health counselors to Alaska. However, I 
think we can all agree there is more to be done. I have tried to work 
alongside you to also prevent suicide including my introduction of the 
Don Young Arctic Warrior Act in last year's NDAA which sought to 
provide additional services including a home leave demonstration 
program and special pay for cold weather operations. Again I want to 
highlight what you both have done so far but can you please tell us 
what other important steps the Army is taking this year to prevent 
suicide?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. To get at the root cause 
of suicide and other harmful behaviors, the Army is shifting from 
responding to events to an integrated primary prevention model as the 
Army continues efforts to enhance leader engagement; strengthen 
individual, unit, and community resilience and connectedness; and 
mitigate stressors that may lead someone to suicide. This comprehensive 
approach focuses on the integration of a variety of primary prevention 
and intervention strategies and activities.
    In addition, the Army continues to invest in upstream prevention 
efforts like quality-of-life improvements, sponsorship for new soldiers 
and families coming into a new unit, and financial literacy to help 
soldiers and families thrive and navigate the challenges they might 
face in Army life. The Army will soon publish a standalone suicide 
prevention regulation and Lethal Means Safety Toolkit.
    The Army is actively participating in the DOD working group that is 
developing the roadmap for implementation of the Suicide Prevention and 
Response Independent Review Committee's (SPRIRC) recommendations. In 
addition, the Army is proactively addressing the Secretary of Defense's 
immediate actions directed following the release of the SPRIRC report. 
Specifically, the directive that Commanders at all levels promote 
mission readiness through healthy sleep throughout the force.
    Again, the Army appreciates Senator Sullivan's support of Army 
Suicide Prevention efforts. The Army is dedicated to eliminating these 
tragedies and will not stop until this critical task is accomplished.
                        wokeism in the military
    89. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, I 
want to point out some of the excellent messaging you have created in 
your recent advertisements which really get at the ``Be All You Can 
Be'' spirit of the Army and drive home what our military should be 
doing, which is increasing lethality and readiness. As you both know, I 
was confused like many others on the target audience of the ``Calling'' 
series last year which featured one segment in particular called 
``Emma.'' Additionally, I want to point out as I did in our hearing on 
recruitment that continued messaging on fake extremism in the military 
by left-leaning publications is damaging to our Army's recruitment 
efforts. What is the Army's strategy to ensure wokeism and false 
allegations of extremism in the military are countered so that we are 
not pushing away potential recruits from serving their country?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. In the current 
competitive labor market, there are multiple options for young 
Americans. To compete in this market, the Army continues to tell its 
story in new ways to ensure the Army remains a top choice for those 
Americans who want to serve their country. Through the re-introduction 
of the ``Be All You Can Be'' campaign, the Army is reaching out to 
Americans from all backgrounds, talents, and regions and give them 
multiple reasons to come in and stay in the Army. The U.S. Army is 
committed to providing opportunities for every American who wishes to 
serve their country. With that, the Army continues to invest in our 
country's youth through programs focused on improving test taking 
skills, advanced degree programs, and safe and effective weight loss 
training.
                       the army's arctic strategy
    90. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Wormuth and General McConville, in 
August 2022, the U.S. Army announced the first BAE-produced BvS 10 
``Beowulf'' Cold Weather All-Terrain Vehicle (CATV) would be delivered 
to the U.S. Army Northern Warfare Training Center in Fort Wainwright, 
Alaska in 2023. In what month do you expect the first CATVs to be 
delivered to Alaska?
    Secretary Wormuth and General McConville. The first Cold Weather 
All-Terrain Vehicles is anticipated to be delivered to Alaska by 
September 2023.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Eric Schmitt
                future soldier preparatory course (fspc)
    91. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Wormuth, I was encouraged and 
interested to learn from your testimony about the early success of the 
Future Soldier Preparatory Course (FSPC) pilot program. Have the 
candidates who successfully completed the FSPC continued to basic 
training only at Fort Jackson, or were some also transferred to other 
basic or One Station Unit Training sites as well?
    Secretary Wormuth. Future Soldier Preparatory Course pilot program 
graduates primarily attend either Basic Combat Training (BCT) at Fort 
Jackson or One Station Unit training either Fort Moore or Fort Leonard 
Wood based on their contracted Military Occupational Specialty. In rare 
cases, some may attend training at another BCT location.

    92. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Wormuth, last week, Under Secretary 
Camarillo testified that the Army will grow the FSPC with ``two 
additional companies at Fort Jackson, South Carolina, and two companies 
at Fort Benning, Georgia.'' I think it is great that the Army is 
expanding the program. Are there currently plans to expand FSPC into 
other basic training sites like Fort Leonard Wood?
    Secretary Wormuth. At this time, further expansion is not required 
based on capacity at Fort Jackson and Fort Moore. However, the Army 
does have conditions-based decisions to expand to other training 
locations if necessary.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                        TUESDAY, APRIL 18, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

                              NAVY POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:29 a.m. in room 
SD-106, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Duckworth, 
Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, 
Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the President's Budget Request for the 
Department of the Navy (DON) for fiscal year 2024.
    I would like to welcome the Secretary of the Navy Carlos 
Del Toro, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Michael Gilday, and 
Commandant of the Marine Corps General David Berger.
    We are grateful for your service, for the service of the 
men and women under your command, and for the support of all 
Navy and Marine Corps families. Thank you.
    Admiral Gilday, General Berger, this will be your last 
posture hearing before the Committee in your current role. I 
would like to thank you for your remarkable leadership of the 
Navy and the Marine Corps as well as your many decades of 
service to the Nation.
    You have guided your services through significant 
challenges with resolve and vision and we are deeply grateful.
    The Navy and Marines are faced with a dangerous and 
evolving global security environment. Certainly, threats from 
Russia, Iran, North Korea, and violent extremist groups remain 
persistent and the Navy has an important role to play in 
addressing them.
    But the clear pacing challenge for our naval forces is 
China. In the Indo-Pacific and in seas and ports around the 
world the United States Navy and the Marine Corps will continue 
to be the first line of deterrence and defense against the 
PRC's [People's Republic of China] expanding global ambitions.
    Recognizing this challenge, the Biden administration has 
requested approximately $256 billion in funding for the 
Department of the Navy for fiscal year 2024. This represents an 
increase of $12.8 billion more than the 2023 enacted budget, 
the largest increase among the services.
    Within this budget the Navy has requested nine new ships. 
The procurement of several new submarines, destroyers, 
frigates, and logistics vessels is well reasoned. At the same 
time, the Navy is proposing to retire a number of ships before 
the end of their service lives including several Littoral 
Combat Ships and dock landing ships.
    I understand the Navy made the difficult choice to retire 
some of these ships now, to free up more resources in the 
future. But it seems that this plan would take us in the 
opposite direction of the Navy's goal for a 355-ship fleet, 
particularly regarding the amphibious force structure.
    The Committee will want an update on these issues as well 
as the Navy's forthcoming 30-year shipbuilding plan. Even as 
the Navy requests newer, more advanced ships I am concerned by 
the continuing struggles to maintain our current fleet. 
Deferred ship maintenance, reduced steaming and flying hours, 
and canceled training and deployments have created serious 
readiness problems within the Navy.
    These problems are also being experienced by private 
shipyards and Navy shipyards. The 2022 National Defense 
Authorization Act (NDAA) directed the Navy to study how to 
improve the capacity in our shipyard industrial base and the 
Department has since begun the Shipyard Infrastructure 
Optimization Program, or SIOP.
    This program represents more than $25 billion in planned 
investments over the next 25 years to modernize and improve our 
shipyards.
    Admiral Gilday, I would ask for an update on SIOP and the 
outlook for Navy maintenance efforts.
    The Marine Corps, while maintaining its ability to operate 
worldwide, is continuing to restructure around two concepts, 
Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment and 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations.
    The key elements of these concepts is a more flexible 
amphibious force that can support a broader naval fight once 
ashore. Rather than simply acting as a landing force the Marine 
Corps intends to help control the sea and air in support of the 
Navy and as part of the joint force.
    To achieve this the Marine Corps is prioritizing a number 
of modernization efforts including deep sensing, long-range 
fires to include anti-surface capabilities, enhanced air and 
missile defense, and improved ground and amphibious combat 
vehicles.
    These platforms will equip the marines with improved force 
protection and enhanced lethality with a particular emphasis on 
providing highly mobile capabilities and addressing contested 
logistics.
    General Berger, I appreciated your thoughtful approach 
throughout this restructuring. Your posture toward adjusting 
Marine Corps requirements based on the results of 
experimentation and wargaming has yielded valuable outcomes 
such as updating the number of cannon batteries and the size of 
fighter attack squadrons.
    The Committee looks forward to continued engagement on 
these modernization efforts as they proceed.
    Finally, I would note that the United States' greatest 
competitive advantage over China is our global network of 
allies and partners.
    The recent agreement between the United States, Australia, 
and the United Kingdom to collaborate on nuclear submarine 
production through the AUKUS [Australia, United Kingdom and the 
United States] partnership is a meaningful step forward in 
ensuring a free and open Indo-Pacific.
    Successful implementation of this plan will require 
responsible oversight and a stable industrial base. I would ask 
our witnesses for their views on what we have the capacity to 
produce now and in the future and how we can provide the budget 
and resources to match.
    Again, I want to thank the witnesses for appearing today. I 
look forward to your testimonies, and now let me recognize the 
Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I welcome our witnesses and thank them for their years of 
distinguished service. I want to associate myself with the 
generous words of appreciation that the distinguished Chairman 
has made with regard to Admiral Gilday and General Berger.
    I would add to that my appreciation for the talented team 
of marines and sailors who are seated behind you and have been 
such a great help to all of us in our efforts to get this 
right.
    I also want to share and associate myself with the remarks 
made by the distinguished Chairman and his concern that the 
budget proposal would take us in the wrong direction and I 
think on a bipartisan basis we will be able to rectify that.
    Members of this Committee know all too well that the 
Chinese Communist Party represents a major threat to the 
Nation. Today, we are in a more complex and sobering threat 
environment than we have been in since World War II.
    In that war our economy was larger than all of our 
adversaries combined with an unmatched industrial base. We no 
longer enjoy that advantage, not by a long shot. The evidence 
is clear China has launched 75 new warships since 2018 compared 
to our 35, 75 to our 35.
    China has over 200 hardened aircraft shelters, more than 
eight times what we have available in the Western Pacific, and 
there are other examples of this imbalance.
    I am troubled by China's recent creation of defense 
mobilization offices, air raid shelters, and wartime emergency 
hospitals. China is rapidly expanding its military forces and 
preparedness. We cannot be complacent in our response.
    Yet, late yesterday the Navy submitted its statutorily 
required 30-year shipbuilding plan, which seems to embrace 
complacency. Even in the most aggressive alternative plan the 
Navy would not reach the statutory 355-ship requirement until 
fiscal year 2042.
    Compared to last year's plan, it trades 35 amphibious 
warfare ships for support vessels, harming the ability of our 
marines to project force. The Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget 
request is anemic. Under the President's proposal the size of 
the fleet would shrink further.
    Let me be clear. This budget request has failed yet again 
to build a U.S. Navy fleet that is capable of meeting even 
basic tasks to say nothing of growing strong enough to deter 
near-term threats.
    Thankfully, there is bipartisan agreement that we must 
substantially increase the shipbuilding budget. I am concerned 
with production constraints at our shipyards. Despite 
congressional support the Navy has proved unable to achieve 
delivery of two attack subs per year, three destroyers per 
year, and two frigates per year.
    This trend puts us further and further behind the goal to 
build the Navy we need. Expanding our shipbuilding capacity 
will require generational investments combined with new 
approaches to growing the workforce.
    Growing our shipbuilding capacity will also require stable 
demand signals to industry. The Navy introduced uncertainty in 
the shipbuilding industry by excluding the LPD amphibious ship 
from the fiscal year 2024 budget. Congress has reversed 
decisions like this in the past and I certainly hope and I 
actually am confident that we will do so again this year for 
LPD 33.
    I am also concerned about ship maintenance, which is 
essential to avoiding a smaller fleet available in the near 
term. Lack of investment and maintenance together with rising 
requirements has left the fleet in brittle condition. As a 
result of decades of deferred maintenance. The Navy wants to 
decommission 11 ships including 8 before the end of their 
expected service life.
    This strategy of divest to invest does not work. In fact, 
that failed doctrine is a contributing reason we are in this 
predicament.
    The assumptions included in this budget have the size of 
the fleet shrinking even more in the next 5 years. I see a 
whole lot of divest and very little invest in this budget.
    I fully expect that Congress will work together in a 
bipartisan and patriotic way to put a stop to this disgraceful 
lack of commitment to our naval forces.
    Finally, I am concerned that the Navy is not sufficiently 
leveraging promising new technologies. This is in contrast to 
the Marine Corps, which has embraced innovative concepts and 
equipment relevant to the high-end fight.
    The Navy should adopt resilient communication advances, 
invest in autonomous technology, make use of additive 
manufacturing such as 3D printing, and move to alternative 
materials such as composites.
    Navy acquisition must do a better job of moving cutting-
edge programs into production and do so urgently. A Western 
Pacific conflict would lean heavily on our naval and air 
forces.
    Congress needs to exercise its constitutional obligation to 
provide these resources, the equipment, and ships necessary to 
provide for the common defense and I am certain we will.
    Thank you all for your service and thank you very much, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Mr. Secretary, please?

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE CARLOS DEL TORO, SECRETARY OF THE 
                              NAVY

    Mr. Del Toro. Good morning, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Wicker, distinguished Members of the Committee. It is an honor 
to appear before you today alongside General Berger and Admiral 
Gilday to discuss the posture of our Department of the Navy.
    Today, our Nation, as you both have highlighted, does face 
challenges in every region and domain that we operate in. From 
the seabed to the stars, we recognize principally the People's 
Republic of China is our pacing threat, executing a strategy 
aimed at upending international order.
    To preserve our way of life, the National Defense Strategy 
calls upon the joint force to deter aggression while being 
prepared to prevail in conflict. A strong Navy and Marine Corps 
are the foundation upon which the successes of the joint force 
exists.
    The President's 2024 Budget does send a strong signal to 
the American people of the value that President Biden and 
Secretary Austin place in maintaining a robust Navy and Marine 
Corps to confront the threats that we face to the tune of an 
increase of $11 billion.
    This year's budget request supports our three enduring 
priorities: to strengthen our maritime dominance, to build a 
culture of warfighting excellence, and enhancing our strategic 
partnerships around the globe.
    With your support over the past year we have made major 
strides to modernize our fleet and our force. The year 2022 saw 
the deployment of the aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. Ford, 
providing the Navy with lessons learned that will benefit 
future Ford-class carriers.
    Construction of high-end surface combatants continue, 
including the first Constellation-class frigate, USS 
Constellation, and the first of our Arleigh Burke Flight III 
destroyers, the USS Jack Lucas.
    We continue progress on our first Columbia-class ballistic 
missile submarine, the USS District of Columbia, while 
preconstruction activities on the second Columbia SSBN, USS 
Wisconsin, have also begun.
    On the innovation front, Task Force 59, just as one 
example, in Bahrain, continues to test a wide range of unmanned 
surface vessels and we are looking forward to expanding this 
effort to Fourth Fleet this coming year.
    When we consider the composition of our fleet we seek to 
strike a balance between readiness, modernization, and capacity 
with an immediate emphasis on readiness. This year our 
divestment request includes three amphibious ships and at least 
two cruisers in poor material condition that offer very limited 
warfighting capability.
    Further investment in these platforms just simply does not 
make sense. It is a waste of the taxpayers' money. Our 
decisions to divest or extend a ship life are based on a hull 
by hull evaluation.
    For example, we recently announced the modernization of the 
destroyer USS Arleigh Burke DDG-51 to keep it sailing through 
2031, 5 years beyond its estimated service life. We hope to be 
able to continue that trend with other ships when possible in 
the Arleigh Burke-class and even with our cruisers, the 
Ticonderoga-class cruisers.
    We owe it to the American people to be responsible stewards 
of taxpayer dollars. Investing in platforms with limited 
capability conflicts with that responsibility.
    Our naval forces are more than just platforms and systems, 
however. It is our sailors, our marines, that are truly our 
greatest strength. This year's budget request contains multiple 
investments to support them and their families with services, 
benefits, housing, and education that they deserve.
    In addition to our commitments to our people we are 
reinforcing our international relationships including those 
with our Ukrainian partners as they defend their sovereignty in 
response to Russia's illegal and unprovoked invasion.
    In the Indo-Pacific we continue to play a leading role in 
the AUKUS security partnership. Our Navy will be critical to 
this initiative's success as we support Australia's acquisition 
of conventionally armed nuclear-powered fast attack submarines.
    We continue to hone our skills with allies and partners in 
the Arctic, ensuring we are prepared to operate in this 
challenging and unforgiving environment. Along with our 
partnerships abroad we are committed to also strengthening our 
relationships here at home. We value your support and we 
recommit our leadership toward defueling and remediating the 
Red Hill bulk fuel storage facility spills.
    We are committed to doing what it takes to address the 
concerns of servicemembers, their families, the people of 
Hawaii, and all other communities throughout the United States.
    As I have said before, we build trust 1 day at a time, one 
action at a time.
    As I close, I would like to emphasize that to meet these 
commitments and obligations the Department of the Navy does 
require a strong cadre of senior leaders. Delaying the approval 
of our flag and general officer nominations before the Senate 
is especially harmful to our readiness. I urge all of you to 
reconsider this situation and allow our nominations to please 
move forward.
    Finally, I am grateful for the trust that you have placed 
in me to lead this department. I look forward to discussing how 
best to support our sailors, marines, and their families and 
defense of our Nation working very collaboratively with each 
and every one of you.
    Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of The Honorable Carlos Del Toro 
follows:]

          Prepared Statement by The Honorable Carlos Del Toro
                              Introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, distinguished Members of the 
Committee, it is an honor to appear before you alongside General Berger 
and Admiral Gilday to discuss the posture of the Department of the Navy 
(DON). We appreciate your trust and confidence in us to lead the DON, 
and appreciate opportunities like this to come together with you and 
address how to best to recruit, train, equip, and prepare our sailors 
and marines so they can fulfill their vital role in support of the 
Joint Force, protecting our national security interests.
    The United States requires a strong Navy and Marine Corps. The 
national and economic security of our Nation depends on free and open 
access to the sea. Ninety percent of international trade travels over 
the seas and one third of that transits the South China Sea. Over 400 
undersea fiber-optic cables carry more than a trillion dollars in 
transactions every day. And the rules-based international order that 
benefits us all requires a strong maritime force, campaigning forward 
alongside allies and partners to provide the sea control and integrated 
deterrence we need to counter strategic competitors today and into the 
future.
    We find ourselves at an inflection point, one that demands we renew 
our commitment to naval primacy as we chart a course through this 
century of intense maritime competition. Over the past two decades, the 
People's Republic of China (PRC) has more than quadrupled its export 
trade and used its growing wealth and economic power to rapidly expand 
and modernize its military and its navy. The People's Liberation Army 
Navy has added over one hundred combatants to its fleet in that time--a 
naval buildup that is a key component of its increasingly aggressive 
military posture. Today it has approximately 340 ships, and is moving 
toward a fleet of 440 ships by 2030. The PRC is conducting active, 
aggressive maritime activities in the South China Sea and beyond that 
have the potential to undermine our system of international law, 
including the freedom of the seas, a foundational United States 
interest.
    Our maritime challenges are not confined to the Indo-Pacific. 
Moscow has not abated in its efforts to control large swaths of the 
Black, Baltic, and Arctic Seas, trying to intimidate and deny other 
countries the opportunity to exercise their rights to free passage. 
That is why six of seven of NATO's priority operating regions are 
maritime-focused, and NATO is moving to adopt its first maritime 
strategy.
    Our Navy and Marine Corps team are meeting these threats on the 
sea, under the sea, in the air, and in cyberspace every single day. To 
defend freedom of the sea, we must ensure our sailors and marines have 
the capability and forward presence to stand by our allies and our 
partners. That is why I have directed our Navy and Marine Corps team to 
prioritize our investment in readiness, to make sure our ships and 
aircraft are always prepared to deploy. This approach will deliver the 
integrated deterrence at sea required by our National Defense Strategy.
Three Enduring Priorities Guiding the Department of the Navy
    Last year I had the privilege of introducing my strategic vision 
for the Department of the Navy to this Committee, centered on our 
Department's three enduring priorities, which are complementary to and 
supportive of both the CNO's Navigation Plan 2022 and the Commandant's 
Force Design 2030.
    First, we are strengthening our maritime dominance so that we can 
deter potential adversaries, and if called upon, fight and win our 
Nation's wars. Second, we are building a culture of warfighting 
excellence, founded on strong leadership, and rooted in treating each 
other with dignity and respect. And third, we are enhancing our 
strategic partnerships, across the Joint Force, with industry, with 
academia, and with our allies and partners around the globe. Over the 
past year and a half, our DON team has made irreversible progress 
across our three enduring priorities, supporting positive growth and 
modernization in our naval force. I highlight the progress we've made 
and successes we've enjoyed over the past year through the support of 
the Committee and your other colleagues throughout Congress.
    Strengthening maritime dominance requires us to rapidly field the 
concepts and capabilities that create advantage relative to our pacing 
threat, with the sustainment necessary to generate integrated, all-
domain naval power. That is why we are making the investments now, 
guided by the CNO's Navigation Plan and Marine Corps Force Design 2030, 
to ensure we remain the most lethal, capable, and globally postured 
force on this planet for decades to come.
    Last June, our shipbuilders laid the keel for USS District of 
Columbia, the first of a new class of nuclear-powered ballistic missile 
submarines that will underwrite the Nation's nuclear deterrent out to 
the year 2080. The second Columbia-class hull, USS Wisconsin, has begun 
pre-construction activities.
    In July, we commissioned USS Fort Lauderdale, an amphibious warship 
that will help modernize our amphibious fleet and extend the reach of 
our marines to fight from the sea wherever there is a need.
    What's more, USS Tripoli, the second of our America-class 
amphibious assault ships, completed its maiden deployment in 2022, 
operating throughout the Indo-Pacific with our larger, traditional 
aircraft carriers as a test of our F-35B ``Lightning Carrier / Assault 
Carrier'' concept. Deployments like this one highlight the Navy and 
Marine Corps' interoperability as well as the strategic and operational 
advantages that amphibious ships continue to provide to the Joint 
Force.
    With regard to aircraft carriers, we've made significant progress 
on USS Gerald R. Ford, the first new carrier to be deployed in almost 
50 years. We are taking the lessons learned from the Ford as we build 
the future USS John F. Kennedy, USS Enterprise, and USS Doris Miller. 
Our carriers are not only vital to deterrence, they are also the 
cornerstone of our interoperability with our allies.
    Our most advanced fighter aircraft, the F-35 Lightning II, now 
brings fifth-generation stealth and multi-role, multi-mission reach and 
power wherever we need to fight. Meanwhile, the F/A-18E/F Super Hornet 
will be the numerically predominant aircraft in the carrier air wing 
well into the 2030's. Service-life modification initiatives and 
capability upgrades enhance our inventory by advancing the tactical 
relevance of the F/A-18 E/F and closing the Navy's strike-fighter gap. 
We are working with industry to ensure trained mechanics are prepared 
to support induction schedules, and that they are bringing electrical 
and avionics experts onboard to support Block III transition efforts.
    Marine aviation continues to build capability and capacity in the 
image of the future force. Recently, we stood up Marine Aerial Refueler 
Transport Squadron 153 in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, significantly increasing 
the reach and sustainment capabilities of marines in the Pacific 
theater.
    The 15 KC-130J tanker aircraft that VMGR-153 will have by 2026 will 
enhance the organic mobility available to marines during training, in 
response to crisis, or in conflict. We are approaching 1 year since the 
CH-53K Sea Stallion program became operational, and we are well 
underway transitioning Marine Heavy Helicopter Squadron 461 into our 
first fully operational Sea Stallion squadron. While it is still in 
transition, HMH-461 is already conducting heavy-lift assault support 
missions previously impossible with legacy aircraft.
    Over the past year, DON personnel have also demonstrated the 
immense potential of unmanned and autonomous vehicles. The Overlord 
Surface Vessel Ranger successfully transited from the Gulf Coast to the 
West Coast without an embarked crew. These unmanned surface vehicles 
will reduce the risk to our personnel, lower operating costs, and 
protect access to areas like the South China Sea. In addition, United 
States Naval Forces Central Command's Task Force 59, a new, first-of-
its-kind task force, is rapidly integrating unmanned systems and 
artificial intelligence into maritime domain awareness in the Fifth 
Fleet area of operations, and we will soon expand that capability to 
other regions of the world.
    In addition to procuring the modern platforms, we are also 
expanding the areas available for our personnel to train. With our 
partners in Congress, through the National Defense Authorization Act of 
2023, we are expanding and modernizing our training ranges at Naval Air 
Station Fallon. This initiative will provide our pilots with the 
airspace and ground necessary to hone their skills in the advanced 
aircraft we field.
    Another area of improvement is shipyard performance: our 
significant investment in the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization 
Program, known as SIOP, is modernizing our four aging public shipyards 
by optimizing facilities and infrastructure as well as increasing dry-
dock capacity and capability. We are also looking at establishing a 
parallel high-end technical track in nuclear welding, robotics, hull 
technology, software and electronics integration, as well as additive 
manufacturing for high-paying blue collar career.
    We have made significant improvements to surface ship readiness. 
Working with industry partners, we have reduced maintenance delays on 
major maintenance periods in private shipyards by 39 percent since 
2019. On-time completion of availabilities has also steadily increased 
from 34 percent in fiscal year 2019 to 41 percent for all maintenance 
periods completed in fiscal year 2022. We have brought data and 
advanced analytics to inform the plan for each maintenance and repair 
availability period, and improved our processes to better scope work 
and structure each availability well before ship arrival dates.
    Public shipyards are also improving from fiscal year 2019 in both 
fewer days of maintenance delay and increases to on-time completion 
percentages. In fiscal year 2022, despite lingering COVID challenges to 
production, the public shipyards reduced number of days of maintenance 
delay by 29 percent from 2019 with on-time completions now at 33 
percent.
    Our second enduring priority, building a culture of warfighting 
excellence, demands more aggressive recruiting, more ``training like we 
fight,'' and a stronger commitment to retaining a strong, diverse, and 
healthy force--a force that is ready at all times and focused on 
warfighting and strong, positive leadership at every level. That's why 
we have expanded community-and school-based outreach while 
simultaneously increasing media campaigns in underserved and minority 
markets. We must attract the broadest possible talent pool from 
throughout our all Nation, including more women.
    Recognizing that quality of life for our servicemembers and 
families is inseparable from warfighting excellence, we have directed 
substantial investments in quality-of-life initiatives, infrastructure 
improvement, and the largest military pay raise in over 20 years. All 
of these efforts are centered on one goal: combat readiness. Our 
sailors and marines are better prepared and more focused when they know 
their families are being cared for and doing well.
    Our third strategic priority, enhancing our strategic partnerships, 
sustains and expands our advantage by seeking to achieve seamless 
integration, communication, and collaboration with each of our 
partners. With our Government partners, we have strived toward greater 
agility, adaptability, trust, and transparency in support of our 
warfighters. Globally, we have strengthened our relationships with 
like-minded maritime nations, deepening interoperability and 
interchangeability in order to enable mutual action to address shared 
challenges.
    Our actions in the face of adversity will long be remembered by our 
allies and partners. Since the start of the conflict in Ukraine, the 
Navy and Marine Corps have supported our Ukrainian partners as they 
continue to defend their sovereign territory in the face of unprovoked 
Russian aggression. Together, we have risen to the occasion, supplying 
an unprecedented volume of capabilities to assist in their time of 
need. In 2022 alone, the Department of the Navy coordinated the 
identification, adjudication, and delivery of over $1.3 billion in 
critical systems, weapons platforms, munitions, and support equipment 
to address critical Ukrainian needs.
    Beyond tending to our international partnerships, we are working to 
expand on relationships here at home. We have made a concerted effort 
to support our defense industrial base, with special attention paid to 
supporting entrepreneurs leading small and medium-sized businesses. As 
a direct result of the President of the United States' Executive Order 
13985, ``Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved 
Communities Through the Federal Government,'' the DON took action to 
further develop and refine our strategic and tactical approaches to 
maximize small-business utilization across a diverse industrial base. 
These deliberate actions have increased our outreach to small 
businesses, improved subcontracting compliance and oversight, fostered 
more opportunities to fully utilize the Department of Defense (DOD) 
Mentor-Protege Program, and increased Phase III Small Business 
Innovation Research program funding by 16 percent over the previous 
year.
    All of these endeavors contribute to our desired expansion of the 
DOD's supply chain marketplace.
                the fiscal year 2024 president's budget
    Despite the successes and progress highlighted above, there is 
still work to be done on all fronts. The President's Budget for fiscal 
year 2024 Request to Congress is a clear signal of President Biden's 
support for our Navy and Marine Corps team and of the recognition of 
our critical role in the Joint Force especially in light of the complex 
strategic environment. Our request this year totals $255.8 billion, a 
4.5 percent increase over last year. Every dollar of this request will 
contribute to the warfighting strength of our Navy and Marine Corps, 
from research and development of next-generation technologies and 
systems to procurement of high-end platforms critical to defending our 
Nation, infrastructure improvements, and most importantly, taking care 
of our sailors, marines, and their families who sacrifice so much.
Strengthening Maritime Dominance
  Fleet Investments
    A modern, capable, and lethal Navy requires sustained investment 
across a variety of platforms to complete missions in all environments. 
President's Budget 2024 prioritizes the development, procurement, and 
sustainment of our Navy's ships to provide our Nation with the most 
capable platforms. The request includes the full funding for two 
destroyers, two nuclear-powered attack submarines, two frigates, one T-
AO fleet replenishment oiler, and one AS(X) submarine tender, while 
providing the next increment of funding for construction of CVN 80, CVN 
81, and LHA 9, as well as the first year of incremental funding for the 
second Columbia-class ballistic missile submarine.
    The budget request also includes a significant investment in 
submarine maintenance with the goal of reducing maintenance periods and 
improving the operational availability of these critical assets. These 
funds are aimed at improving material availability and strengthening 
the private and public industrial bases.
    President's Budget 2024 prioritizes modernization of the Zumwalt-
class (DDG-1000) guided-missile destroyer to enable the Navy's first 
fielding of the conventional prompt strike sea-based hypersonic weapon 
system. It also includes key enablers for the Integrated Combat System 
such as Infrastructure-as-Service. The Integrated Combat System will 
allow the Navy to deliver future capabilities through software uploads 
instead of hardware installations.
  Fleet Divestments
    Within President's Budget 2024 is the request for the divestment of 
eight surface combatants: three cruisers (CG); three Landing Ships, 
Dock (LSD); and two Littoral Combat Ships (LCS). The three CGs--USS 
Cowpens (CG-63), USS Shiloh (CG-67), and USS Vicksburg (CG-69) are all 
within 3 years of their end-of-service-life dates. While these cruisers 
have a large vertical-launch capacity for a variety of weapons, the 
cost associated with repairing, modernizing, and sustaining the hulls 
requested significantly outweigh any warfighting contribution they 
provide to the fleet, and occupy limited, valuable private shipyard 
space that could be better used for maintaining more-lethal ships.
    In addition to the three cruisers, we are requesting divestment of 
USS Jackson (LCS-06) and USS Montgomery (LCS-08), both Independence-
class LCS variants. We acknowledge that both hulls are a third of the 
way through their projected service life of 25 years. However, these 
platforms are less lethal, less capable, and far more expensive to 
sustain than what is needed for the contested seas our Navy now finds 
itself operating in.
    Finally, we are requesting the divestment of USS Germantown (LSD-
42), USS Gunston Hall (LSD-44), and USS Tortuga (LSD-46), three 
amphibious ships that are all at or over 34 years of service and in 
unsatisfactory material condition. The planning and repair periods 
required for these ships to reach a deployable status would put all 
three at or near their 40-year end-of-service-life mark. Undertaking 
the repair of these ships, with potential cost growth, would tie up 
funding, shipyard capacity, and take an enormous personal toll on our 
sailors assigned to the projects. However, we recognize this request 
brings us below the 31 amphibious ships we are required to maintain per 
the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2023. The CNO, 
Commandant, and I are committed to ensuring we meet this requirement 
and doing so in a timely manner, but with a capable, sustainable mix of 
ship classes that will support our marines and sailors for decades to 
come.
    In President's Budget 2023, the DON proposed 16 ship divestments, 
but was only allowed to divest four. Ultimately, it is our sailors and 
marines who pay the price when we are restricted from retiring legacy 
platforms and investing in the capabilities needed for the future.
  Research and Development (R&D) of Enhanced Capabilities
    President's Budget 2024 requests a total of $26.9 billion to 
increase innovation and modernization efforts in R&D. The budget 
request commits $718 million of R&D funding to the recapitalization of 
all portions of the undersea leg of the triad including Columbia-class 
submarines, Take Charge and Move Out (TACAMO) capability, and the 
Trident D5 life extension 2. The next-generation air defense family of 
systems includes the F/A-XX, the ``Quarterback'' of the manned/unmanned 
team concept, directing multiple tactical platforms at the leading edge 
of the battlespace. President's Budget 2024 also funds $861 million in 
R&D for unmanned platforms, including the MQ-4 Triton, the MQ-25 
Stingray, the Large Unmanned Surface Vessel, the Extra Large Unmanned 
Undersea Vehicle, and the MQ-9A Reaper.
  Sustaining Maritime Information Superiority
    Information is combat power, and we will continue modernizing our 
information technology infrastructure, ashore and afloat to ensure this 
essential backbone of our maritime power remains secure and survivable 
and continues to deliver information everywhere to maintain decision 
advantage over our adversaries. President's Budget 2024 budgets 
approximately $13 billion for Enterprise IT, cyber activities, business 
systems, and other communications across the DON.
    These investments are a critical warfighting priority for the 
Department. The DON is building information superiority to win the 
naval fight by modernizing its infrastructure, innovating and deploying 
new capabilities, and defending its information. These initiatives are 
enabled by data that is managed as a strategic asset.
    Bringing the DON's enterprise infrastructure to parity with 
Industry is essential for us to maintain our advantage in competition, 
crisis and conflict. We have charted a path to a digital work 
environment where users can securely access their data anywhere on any 
device with performance that rivals best-in-class experiences in 
Industry.
    The DON is accelerating the modernization and transformation of our 
IT capabilities by ensuring that decisions made to sunset or 
rationalize unneeded, obsolete, unproductive, insecure, and un-
auditable IT applications are realized. This effort, coined Cattle 
Drive, will accelerate modernization within multiple business and core 
IT portfolios and self-identify funds for potential re-alignment to 
transformational investments
    The DON is accelerating adoption of game-changing low-earth orbit 
commercial satellite technology to provide resilient, low-latency, 
high-speed communications for warfighting, support, and quality-of-
life-and-work solutions. We are adopting a new approach to 
cybersecurity that will move the DON from its current ineffective 
compliance-based cybersecurity approach to one based on readiness where 
the right to operate is earned and managed every day.
    The DON is a leader within the DOD on the initiative to implement a 
more effective cybersecurity model called zero trust that is better 
adapted to today's threat and computing environments. Finally, data 
management and analytics progress the DON is making on multiple fronts 
is enabling us to improve decisionmaking, sustain information 
superiority and meet the goals of the DOD data strategy by ensuring 
quality data are accessible, understood, and shared to the point of 
need.
  Enabling Cyberspace Superiority
    In addition to building information superiority, the Department 
will ensure our networks and systems are secure, our critical 
infrastructure and weapon systems are survivable, and our cyber forces 
can impose costs on adversaries in and through cyberspace when 
required.
    Adversaries and competitors worldwide leverage cyber 
vulnerabilities to hold our capacity and capabilities at risk. This 
malign behavior requires a robust response, and we will prioritize 
building cyber resilience and strengthening our capacity to withstand, 
fight through, and recover quickly from disruption. To do this, the 
Department must ``bake in'' cybersecurity to new capabilities and 
platforms we procure while ``bolting on'' cybersecurity capabilities to 
legacy platforms. This strategy also requires training our sailors and 
marines to operate in cyber contested environments.
    In addition to building cyber resilience, the Department is 
advancing the technology, tactics, and readiness of our military 
cyberspace operations forces. One example of this force development is 
the Navy's forthcoming establishment of a specific cyber warfare 
officer designator and enlisted rating. The Department is similarly 
committed to improving the readiness of the cyber forces we present to 
U.S. Cyber Command, and we will expand the integration of non-kinetic 
effects afloat.
    Marine Corps Information Command, which operates under the Marine 
Forces Command, achieved initial operational capacity in January 2023. 
Marine Corps Information Command provides critical linkages at the 
operational level as well as task-organized elements to support 
campaign objectives by providing decisionmakers the ability to leverage 
authorities and approvals across the cyber, space, influence, and 
intelligence functions, generating multi-domain advantages.
    Our information space requires new approaches to training, such as 
the Persistent Cyber Training Environment, which integrates 
capabilities to continuously evolve cyber training and exercises. This 
joint capability has expanded access over the last year, enabling force 
readiness and driving decisions on the tactical, operational, and 
strategic levels.
  Munitions Procurement
    President's Budget 2024 takes full advantage of new authorities 
granted by Congress in the fiscal year 2023 National Defense 
Authorization Act that provided a streamlined multiyear procurement 
process for critical munitions. Not only will this authority allow the 
Department to replenish munitions stockpiles which are reduced in 
support of the war in Ukraine, it will also support efforts to 
strengthen the industrial base capacity to develop, produce, and field 
munitions. We are requesting funding for the procurement of 34 Block V 
Tactical Tomahawk missiles for the Marine Corps, as well as several 
hundred Tactical Tomahawk recertification kits, navigation and 
communications kits, and Maritime Strike Tomahawk kits for the Navy. 
Additionally, President's Budget 2024 supports the awarding of multi-
year procurement contracts for critical munitions, including Standard 
Missile (SM-6), the Naval Strike Missile, and Long Range Anti-Ship 
Missile (LRASM). Overall, funding for these and other weapons increased 
by $2 billion in this budget--a growth of nearly 50 percent compared to 
last year.
  Organic Industrial Base
    The DON's organic industrial base is vital to our national 
security, and the DON is committed to ongoing depot modernization and 
optimization efforts. A modernized and ready organic industrial base 
generates Fleet readiness and strengthens our Nation's security.
    President's Budget 2024 continues the investment in our industrial 
base to further efforts to train, recruit, and retain the workforce, 
expand capacity and enable the development and integration of new 
technologies. Deliberate investments in the planning and design of 
facilities and optimization within the depots, as well as contract 
execution in dry-dock repair and refurbishment are focus areas of the 
budget cycle.
    President's Budget 2024 reflects the three named efforts within the 
Organic 
Industrial Base where these investments highlight the commitment to the 
Nation's security with regard to maintaining our wartime assets. First, 
the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program consists of four 
public shipyards located in Portsmouth, VA; Kittery, ME; Bremerton, WA; 
and Pearl Harbor, HI. President's Budget 2024 funding totals $2.7 
billion across multiple accounts. Replacing Dry Dock 3 at Pearl Harbor 
Naval Shipyard is a critical enabler of increased naval capability. 
This project will construct a graving dock in order to support Pearl 
Harbor Naval Shipyard's ability to continue serving the Navy decades 
into the future by maintaining and modernizing the Pacific Fleet's 
nuclear-powered submarines. Second, the Fleet Readiness Center 
Infrastructure Optimization Program consists of three Fleet Readiness 
Centers located in NAS North Island San Diego, CA; NAS Jacksonville, 
FL; MCAS Cherry Point, NC. And finally, the Marine Corps Organic 
Industrial Base consists of two Marine Corps production plants located 
in Albany, GA and Barstow, CA.
    The Presidential Budget Request funds public shipyard depot 
maintenance to 100 percent, and increases the overall workforce from 
37,089 to 37,234 full-time employees, adding an additional 145 full-
time employees for the Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard and Intermediate 
Maintenance Facility Guam Detachment. President's Budget 2024 also 
aligns funding to improve supply chain capability and materiel 
availability in order to make proper budget and schedule decisions for 
items such as long-lead-time materiel.
  Aviation Investments
    The F/A-18E/F Super Hornet will be the numerically predominant 
aircraft in the carrier air wing into the 2030's. President's Budget 
2024 funds service-life modification initiatives and capability 
upgrades that enhance our strike-fighter inventory by maintaining the 
tactical relevance of the F/A-18 E/F and minimizing the Navy's strike-
fighter shortfall. The Presidential budget request also funds delivery 
and support of survivable, reliable, and resilient airborne command, 
control, and communications through the installation of critical 
modifications to the existing E-6B fleet, along with platform 
recapitalization to procure a follow-on TACAMO capability.
    We will prioritize the continued development and production of 
unmanned aircraft systems to support current Fleet intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance requirements and to support future 
unmanned aircraft system integration into the carrier air wing. The 
budget funds two MQ-4 Tritons, three MQ-25 Stingrays, and five MQ-9A 
Reapers for the Marine Corps. President's Budget 2024 requests funding 
for 35 F-35s: 19 F-35C variants for the Navy and Marine Corps and 16 F-
35B variants for the Marine Corps. These aircraft will be the backbone 
of DON air combat superiority for decades to come, complementing the 
carrier strike group with a dominant, multirole, fifth-generation 
aircraft capable of projecting U.S. power and deterring potential 
adversaries.
    President's Budget 2024 also requests funding for the procurement 
of 15 CH-53K King Stallions. These production assets will be part of a 
2-year block buy contract authorized by Congress in the Fiscal Year 
2023 NDAA. The program recently achieved a Full Rate Production 
decision.
  Climate Readiness
    For the Navy and Marine Corps, a changing climate means a contested 
operational environment. Climate change brings extreme weather events, 
more humanitarian crises, and heightened friction around essential 
natural resources. A more volatile world increases demands on our Navy 
and Marine Corps forces while simultaneously impacting the capacity to 
respond to those demands. Improving the energy performance of our 
platforms and weapons systems is essential to providing a combat-
effective force in contested operating environments. To do this, the 
Department is working to establish rigorous, energy-informed 
requirements for new capabilities that are then sustained throughout 
our acquisition decisionmaking.
    Last year, the DON published Climate Action 2030 to maintain the 
superiority of our naval forces through resilience and reducing the 
national security threat of climate change. In support of this 
initiative, last December, the Naval Postgraduate School signed an 
education partnership agreement with Stanford University's Doerr School 
of Sustainability. In bringing together these two globally recognized 
institutions, it is our hope to realize solutions our Navy and our 
Nation can employ to mitigate and reduce effects of a changing climate.
    Jointly with our partners in Congress, we are constantly seeking 
innovative solutions, leveraging science, partnering with industry and 
other government entities, and investing responsibly to ensure mission 
readiness. Climate readiness is a tactical, operational, and strategic 
enabler, and we must ensure our naval forces can operate and succeed in 
any environment.
Building a Culture of Warfighting Excellence
  Building the Future Force
    The civilian workforce is comprised of talented individuals from 
all walks of life whose experiences and skillsets are critical not just 
to our economic success, but to the overall security of our Nation. 
Today's Navy and Marine Corps team is a forward-deployed highly 
sophisticated network that is one of the most technologically advanced 
networks ever conceived and which operates either in concert with other 
combat units or fully self-sustained, and able to dominate in the air, 
sea and undersea.
    As we become a more technologically advanced force, top civilian 
talent is increasingly critical to maintaining America's might upon the 
sea. Technical talent is needed for the wide array of challenges the 
DON faces. More than half of the civilian workforce are top-tier 
scientists, logisticians, engineers, mathematicians, technology 
specialists, or cyber experts; almost a quarter of the workforce are 
artisans performing critical work at the shipyards, depots, civilian 
mariners, or safeguarding our facilities and activities. As one 
indication of the quality and expertise of our workforce, the DON was 
issued 225 patents (more than the Air Force and Army combined) in 
fiscal year 2022 and holds more than 58 percent of all active DOD 
patents (4,129).
    Our civilian workforce ensures a 24/7 rapid response to warfighter 
requirements, develops and manufactures critical systems, repairs and 
maintains our ships and aircraft and develops game-changing technology 
and equipment. The civilian workforce is present in 55 countries, 
supporting sailors and marines around the world.
    We are in a competition for talent with many other employment 
sectors, which is driving us to re-evaluate how we manage the careers 
of our sailors, marines, and civilians, from initial recruitment to 
retirement. To maintain a Fleet that is prepared to defend our Nation 
from all potential adversaries, we must continue to enhance our ability 
to attract, develop, and retain a workforce equally as talented and 
diverse as the American people they serve. This includes maintaining an 
appropriate number of senior executive leadership (general officer, 
flag officer, and SES) billets to ensure optimal operational readiness.
    The Marine Corps continues to make great strides toward retaining 
more experienced marines under the Service's Talent Management program. 
Leveraging authorities previously enabled by Congress, the Service 
enacted nine initiatives in 2022, from which they will expand and 
accelerate in 2023 including Early Reenlistment Authority, SNCO 
Promotion Board Realignment, Recruiting Station Commanding Officer 
Selection Boards, the Special Duty Assignment volunteer program, 
MarineView 360-degree leadership reviews, officer promotion opt-outs, 
Digital Boardroom 2.0, Separate Competitive Promotion Categories, and 
the Career Intermission Program.
    As a result of many of these programs, the Marine Corps met or 
exceeded its first and subsequent term alignment program goals for the 
first time in 13 years and retained a statistically higher-quality 
group of marines. The Service is examining numerous other evolutionary 
initiatives and remains committed to evolving the talent management 
system with the primary goal of improving warfighting readiness in an 
increasingly complex world.
    As another example of a positive development in force development, 
in August 2022, Naval Special Warfare Command (NSW) formally 
established its Assessment Command (NSWAC) to transform how its units 
compete for talent by building a sustainable architecture for 
diversified outreach. It conducted more rigorous pre-assessments for 
character, cognitive, and leadership attributes, and strengthened NSW's 
culture of continuous assessment. NSWAC is taking a whole-person 
approach to identify, prepare, and mentor qualified candidates from 
diverse backgrounds to complete training programs and pursue a 
successful career in NSW. As this new command was being developed, NSW 
conducted 60 outreach events with more than half specifically focused 
on increasing force diversity and inclusivity with underrepresented 
demographics. These efforts will enhance the way NSW continuously 
assesses and selects its incoming officers and enlisted personnel.
Educational Initiatives
    Last year I talked about the Targeted Re-entry Program, which 
empowers commanding officers to identify and nominate their sailors for 
an accelerated return to Active Duty. This year we want to highlight 
our increased partnership with the Department of Education, trade 
schools, and colleges and universities to develop and recruit the 
military and civilian workforce we need.
    As we become a more technologically advanced force, education will 
be a crucial warfighting enabler to maintaining America's might upon 
the sea. Our naval education enterprise is working to develop leaders 
with warfighting knowledge, intellectual dynamism, and creativity to 
maintain a strategic advantage against competitors and global 
adversaries. Through our naval university system, we are creating a 
continuum of learning that develops such leaders to serve at every 
level and equips them with skills to maintain and operate increasingly 
complex systems in an ever-changing warfighting environment.
    President's Budget 2024 requests a $480.2 million investment to 
continue supporting and growing our naval education institutions. We 
maintain several world-class institutions, including the United States 
Naval Academy, Naval Postgraduate School, Naval War College, and Marine 
Corps University. This requested funding will also sustain our efforts 
to expand our enlisted personnel's access to the Naval Community 
College to support their education goals. We are deeply committed to 
formalizing a culture of lifelong learning for both our enlisted and 
officer communities.
  Resiliency & Readiness
    Mental health concerns and rising suicide rates are national-level 
issues to which the Services have not been immune. We are well aware of 
the inextricable link between mental health, resiliency, and the 
readiness of our force. To that end, Admiral Gilday, General Berger, 
and I are committed to supporting and ensuring the mental health, 
safety, and well-being of all sailors, marines, and their families, and 
the Department's civilian workforce.
    We must do everything we can to foster the well-being of our people 
and prevent suicide. No one solution applies to every sailor, marine, 
family member, or civilian. We are constantly evaluating how we do 
business when it comes to providing services and resources to ensure 
they are meeting needs. Military service entails sacrifice not just for 
the servicemembers, but for their families as well, and we want to make 
sure family members feel seen, heard, and taken care of regardless of 
whether their sailor or marine is home, stationed overseas, or 
deployed. The DON offers multiple mental-health and counseling 
resources to all servicemembers at all levels. As we continue to 
encourage positive help-seeking behaviors and combat the stigma around 
mental healthcare among our marines and sailors, President's Budget 
2024 requests $87 million for mental health support, an increase of 
$13.1 million from last year. This additional funding will provide for 
increases to our Sailor Assistance and Intercept for Life (SAIL) 
program, which provides rapid assistance to those in crisis, as well as 
the addition of two Warrior Toughness Teams for each coast.
    Given the complexity of this challenge, our Office of Force 
Resiliency has taken an integrated approach to enhance holistic, data-
driven suicide-prevention strategies which recognize the benefits of 
addressing common risk and protective factors to promote healthy 
cultures and climates. As such, our suicide prevention efforts draw 
from and harmonize with the Defense Strategy for Suicide Prevention and 
the White House Strategy to Reduce Military and Veteran Suicide. We are 
taking action on the recently released report from the Suicide 
Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee, and will work 
within DOD's coordination framework to implement key recommendations 
that will strengthen our prevention effort.
    The Department of the Navy is laser-focused on countering sexual 
assault and sexual harassment at every level. In addition to the toll 
on victims, sexual assault and sexual harassment directly impact unit 
cohesion and ultimately undercuts our readiness. We must create 
environments that foster respect, maintain the dignity of military 
service, and increase our warfighting readiness. Sexual assault and 
sexual harassment are a persistent challenge requiring a multi-pronged 
approach that leverages a wide range of initiatives, not only to 
address these issues, but also to prevent them before they occur.
    I directed the establishment of an Implementation Advisory Panel 
for the Department of the Navy last spring, bringing leaders to the 
table to pinpoint strategies for the Navy and Marine Corps to implement 
the recommendations of the Independent Review Commission on Sexual 
Assault in the Military, as approved by the Secretary of Defense. 
Through the Implementation Advisory Panel, the DON has already made 
significant strides to implement the Independent Review Commission's 
recommendations, focusing on the Committee's highest-priority efforts 
first. We fully recognize that we need to continue to confront and 
prevent these destructive behaviors. We are investing significant 
resources to fuel the needed changes and we have made substantial 
progress in standing up a dedicated prevention workforce to prevent 
harmful behaviors, professionalizing the sexual assault response 
workforce to better provide victim care and support, and establishing 
Offices of Special Trial Counsel.
    Additionally, our Office of Force Resiliency actively synchronizes 
the DON's sexual assault awareness and training, prevention, victim 
response, and accountability initiatives with the DOD Office of Force 
Resiliency. Sexual assault and harassment are more than just criminal 
matters. They undermine the trust and commitment that are foundational 
to our forces and they erode faith in our leaders, institutions, 
shipmates, and marines. This is a leadership issue, and you have my 
commitment to clearly and actively support these efforts and to 
demonstrate that sexual assault and sexual harassment will not be 
tolerated in any way, shape, or form.
Taking Care of Our People
    We continue to make great strides in providing quality-of-life 
services and improving housing options available to our sailors, 
marines, and their families. In President's Budget 2024, we are asking 
you to support our DON families with $622 million aimed at sustaining 
our child and youth services. Additionally, we continue our investments 
in housing for both accompanied and unaccompanied personnel. Notably, 
our request includes $131.8 million for the construction of a 
Bachelor's Enlisted Quarters and Support Facility at Marine Corps 
Barracks, here in Washington, DC. We are also requesting funding to 
support housing renovations at multiple bases, to include Naval Base 
San Diego, Naval Air Station Lemoore, Naval Air Station Oceana, and 
Naval Base Ventura County. These investments will yield dividends for 
years to come as we continue to offer safe, affordable, and convenient 
housing to those who defend our Nation.
Strengthening Strategic Partnerships
  Community Partnerships
    The DON is leveraging the Department of Defense Readiness and 
Environmental Protection Integration Program (REPI) to partner with 
local governments and non-governmental organizations to advance mission 
readiness through mutually beneficial, sustainable communities near our 
installations and ranges. The recently announced 2023 REPI Challenge 
includes several projects that support DON installations, to include: 
invasive species management and reef preservation near Pacific Missile 
Range Facility Barking Sands and Marine Corps Base Hawaii; habitat 
improvement and species management at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, 
Naval Base Coronado, Naval Base Ventura County Point Mugu, and Naval 
Weapons Station Seal Beach in California; and shoreline stabilization 
near Marine Corps Base Quantico, Virginia.
    Outside our fence lines, the communities that host our Navy and 
Marine Corps installations continue to utilize the Defense Community 
Infrastructure Pilot (DCIP) program to fund community infrastructure 
projects that benefit local installations, enable the DON's warfighting 
mission, and provide support to our servicemembers and their families. 
Using 2022 DCIP grant funds, Onslow County in North Carolina will 
upgrade a runway at a local airport to benefit travel in southeastern 
North Carolina, including Marine Corps Base Camp Lejeune, Marine Corps 
Air Station New River, and Marine Corps Air Station Cherry Point. In 
Florida, a new water main will improve capacity and pressure for not 
only for Naval Station Mayport, but also the surrounding community 
where many of our sailors, marines, civilians and their families live. 
Finally, the city of Newport News in Virginia will undertake a $15 
million project at the Harwood's Mill Reservoir Dam to increase flood 
protection for the entire community and ensure a reliable water supply 
to Naval Weapons Station Yorktown.
    We continue to work with our partners across the Federal 
Government, the State of Hawaii, and Congress to close the Red Hill 
Bulk Fuel Storage Facility and remediate the effects of the 2021 spill. 
We are committed to doing what it takes to address the concerns of 
servicemembers, their families, and the people of Hawaii. As I've said 
before, we rebuild trust 1 day at a time, one action at a time. Aging 
infrastructure such as that at Red Hill is a challenge we face at the 
national level, and we appreciate Congress's support and partnership as 
we increase our focus on revitalizing the shore infrastructure our Navy 
and Marines Corps rely upon.
  Joint Force and Government
    The Department of the Navy is committed to providing the right mix 
of capabilities and remaining dominant against threats defined in the 
National Defense Strategy. Across both Services and throughout the DON, 
President's Budget 2024 will invest in capabilities for maritime 
dominance.
    Successful implementation of the concepts within the Navigation 
Plan and Force Design 2030 will be pursued through a unified, 
integrated effort at every echelon. But our fully integrated naval 
force is only part of the formidable Joint Force team that stands 
united in the protection of the American people. Collaboration between 
military departments and with the interagency is critical to the 
defense of the United States.
    We are constantly seeking opportunities to maximize the combined 
efficiency and effectiveness of our Navy and Marine Corps in 
cooperation with the Army, Air Force, and Space Force. For example, we 
continue to work with our fellow Services on critical advanced research 
programs including hypersonic weapons. And worldwide, the Joint Strike 
Fighter program is yielding unprecedented reach and agility for the 
entire Joint Force.
    The Department of the Navy, as a forward-deployed force, is a key 
contributor to Integrated Deterrence as our daily interactions with 
allies, partners, and potential adversaries impact diplomatic, 
economic, and intelligence equities in addition to the obvious military 
impacts.
    Our most significant contribution as a military department is 
America's naval forces. The combat-credible forces of the Marine Corps 
and the Navy are unique as America's most timely, flexible, and 
forward-deployed force across the full spectrum of challenges--from 
naval diplomacy to strategic deterrence, resource competition, crisis, 
and conflict. Our allies and partners as well as our potential 
adversaries see these forces conducting forward operations and 
training, alongside partner nations. This constant forward presence 
engenders trust through episodic engagements as well as urgent response 
in the event of a national emergency.
    The iconic presence of marines in our embassies is just one highly 
visible way the Department of the Navy supports the State Department 
and whole-of-government activities. Behind the scenes, military 
attaches strengthen our bonds with international partners as they 
facilitate and coordinate activities, from small-scale personnel 
exchanges to large-scale multi-lateral military exercises.
  Allies and Partners
    Over the past 18 months, the Department of the Navy has been fully 
committed to the multi-phased, commitments-based process, known as the 
Australia--United Kingdom--United States Partnership (AUKUS) to 
facilitate the development of the optimal pathway for Australia's 
acquisition of conventionally armed nuclear-powered submarines, which 
will contribute to maintaining peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific 
region by enhancing deterrence. As part of this initiative, Australian 
sailors will embed on United States SSNs and the United States Navy 
will increase SSN port visits to Australia beginning this year. 
Additionally, as early as 2027, the Navy plans to rotate up to four 
U.S. Virginia-class submarines to HMAS Stirling near Perth, an 
initiative we are calling ``Submarine Rotational Force--West (SRF-W; 
``Surf West''). Beginning in the early 2030's, pending statutory 
authority, we intend to sell Australia at least three Virginia-class 
SSNs, and potentially an additional two more if needed. The AUKUS 
partners will begin delivering the trilaterally developed SSN-AUKUS in 
the late 2030's. The cost sharing through the different phases of AUKUS 
will be fair, transparent, and proportional--with the United States and 
Australia making investments to upgrade the United States submarine 
industrial base. We will continue to lead and advance this effort as 
directed by the President and Secretary of Defense.
    As the world has seen over the last year with Russia's unprovoked 
and indefensible invasion of Ukraine, and the strengthened resolve and 
solidarity of NATO and like-minded nations around the world, the value 
of allies and partners cannot be overstated; the global landscape 
offers a stark contrast between those countries with strong 
international partnerships and those who are isolated due to their 
antithetical stance vis-a-vis the rules-based international order. 
Globally, we have strengthened our relationships with like-minded 
maritime nations, deepening interoperability in order to enable mutual 
action to address shared challenges.
    As we emerged from the COVID pandemic and returned to our historic 
operating pace, we have looked for ways to expand cooperative 
deployments and operations around the world. Our recent growth in 
cooperative efforts with our partners has been focused on increasing 
interoperability and moving toward interchangeability with allied and 
partner maritime forces. In every international engagement, I have 
consistently heard the same message from our allies and partners: ``We 
want to do more with the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps''--a signal that we 
are the partner of choice across the globe.
    In January 2023, the United States and Japan reaffirmed the 
necessity to optimize our force posture and enhance response capability 
through a readjustment in the laydown of United States Forces in Japan. 
This will provide for stationing of the 12th Marine Littoral Regiment 
in Japan by 2025, and with it, advanced intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance capabilities as well as anti-ship and transportation 
capabilities.
    In a demonstration of the capabilities and resolve of NATO, the USS 
George H.W. Bush Carrier Strike Group recently completed Exercise 
Neptune Strike 22.2., operating under the command of Striking Forces 
NATO (STRIKFORNATO), and flexing the capabilities of all-domain warfare 
at a critical time.
    During the same period, we employed the USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier 
Strike Group for the first time with our NATO allies during Exercise 
Silent Wolverine. The exercise was designed to test the carrier's 
capabilities through integrated high-end naval warfare scenarios, 
leading to its inaugural deployment this year. The USS Kearsarge 
Amphibious Ready Group and 22 Marine Expeditionary Unit provided 
persistent presence in the Baltic Sea. This demonstration of capability 
exemplifies the unparalleled power of alliance and partnerships.
    Last year, I personally witnessed the power of partnership during 
RIMPAC 2022, when forces from 26 nations from nearly every continent 
converged at Pearl Harbor. We came together as capable, adaptive 
partners, and declared our commitment to work together, to grow our 
collective capability, and to nurture and enhance relationships that 
are critical to ensuring the safety of the sea lanes and the security 
of the world's interconnected oceans.
    Strengthening maritime dominance requires us to rapidly field the 
concepts and capabilities that create advantage relative to our pacing 
threat with the sustainment necessary to generate integrated, all-
domain naval power.
    Alongside our Filipino allies, marines from 3d Marine Littoral 
Regiment completed the largest iteration of Exercise Balikatan last 
April. This was the initial operational employment of 3d Marine 
Littoral Regiment, and they used it to flex their capability to deploy 
from Hawaii and carry out amphibious landings in northern Luzon, 
ultimately enabling combined coastal defense training. This exercise 
not only strengthened the bond with our Filipino partners but tested 
small, distributed, and austere encampments, resulting in refinements 
of the concepts integral to the Marine Littoral Regiment.
    This month, marines and sailors with the 31st Marine Expeditionary 
Unit completed the first Japan-based Iron Fist exercise, which 
increased interoperability and strengthened relationships between the 
DON and the Japan Self-Defense Forces, and demonstrated the commitment 
of United States and Japan forces to maintain a free and open Indo-
Pacific.
    Last November I had the chance to visit my Indian counterparts in 
an effort to drive forward high-end navy-to-navy cooperation to address 
challenges in the undersea warfare domain. While we continue to advance 
thinking on concepts and technology, we are furthering our defense 
information sharing and exercising in ways that are relevant to our 
shared goals, as exemplified by the USS Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike 
Group's participation in Exercise Malabar with India, Australia, and 
Japan, and which included high-end tactical anti-submarine warfare.
    While in Brazil, I had the privilege of presiding over the opening 
ceremony of the longest-running maritime exercise, UNITAS, and took the 
opportunity to spotlight the importance of partnerships in our own 
hemisphere and the Atlantic basin. It was a particular honor to meet 
with the Cameroonian Head of Navy and visit his two ships, which had 
conducted their first-ever trans-Atlantic voyage in order to 
participate in the exercise. Their pride, determination, and dedication 
to being a part of this U.S.-led multinational exercise were evident as 
they celebrated this exceptional achievement. Strengthening our 
relationships across Africa and the Western Hemisphere is an important 
aspect of furthering the National Defense Strategy as the PRC endeavors 
to extend its influence over our neighbors and African partners.
    One of the most significant detriments to local economies is 
illegal, unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing. I have been keenly 
interested in this complex challenge, and we are working with our 
partners across the globe to increase maritime domain awareness, 
information sharing, and information operations to counter this 
scourge. Massive fishing fleets from countries such as the PRC prey on 
countries with weak capabilities to protect their exclusive economic 
zones. Closely linked to the IUU fishing problem is a country's ability 
to effectively conduct maritime domain awareness.
    As the Navy and Marine Corps team works tirelessly to ensure our 
forward presence, we are in an intense global competition with the PRC 
for strategic access and influence. That competition is particularly 
concentrated in the Indo-Pacific. To prevail, we will continue to 
innovate, leveraging our naval diplomacy to maximum advantage. 
Improving ports and enabling enhanced maritime patrolling capacity from 
modern airfields serves U.S. security interests as well as island 
nations' interests.
    Combined, these critical enablers of U.S. influence, posture, and 
readiness in the Indo-Pacific are also the core components of the DOD's 
ability to deliver humanitarian assistance and disaster relief in the 
region as the catastrophic consequences of climate change accelerate. A 
resilient, distributed posture to meet our operational needs and 
outcompeting the PRC for strategic access and influence in the Indo-
Pacific go hand in hand.
    President's Budget 2024 will strengthen global alliances and 
partnerships with funding for joint operations and exercises around the 
world, including CARAT, Malabar, and Balikatan in the Indo-Pacific; 
NATO operations in the Mediterranean; and exercises like UNITAS in our 
own hemisphere.
    We will continue to foster opportunities for sailors, marines, and 
DON civilians to train, learn, and operate side-by side with their 
counterparts in partner and allied forces. We will work on 
operationally integrating with our allies and partners through shared 
warfighting concepts, continually campaigning forward to deter 
adversaries and protect the rules-based international order.
    Our sailors, marines and civilians are warrior-diplomats for our 
Nation. Their professionalism and dedication promote the connections 
that strengthen our collective security and cultivate shared ideals 
that send the message that the United States is a friend worth having.
                                closing
    The United States Navy and Marine Corps Team is on the front lines 
of defending the free and open rules-based international order against 
those who would cast us into a new dark age defined by the principle of 
``might makes right.''
    I have a sacred obligation to Congress and to the American people 
to ensure that our Navy and Marine Corps are always prepared to defend 
those liberties, those non-negotiable American values wherever the 
Nation's interests may be threatened. The Navy and Marine Corps remain, 
after all, this Nation's single most versatile instrument of national 
power.
    For this, I am grateful for your sustained, bipartisan support of a 
strong Navy and Marine Corps.
    I look forward to working with old friends and new partners in 
Congress to advance the Nation's security with a Navy and Marine Corps 
supremely able, first and foremost, to deter all potential adversaries, 
and if called upon to fight and win our Nation's wars.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    Admiral Gilday, please?

  STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL MICHAEL M. GILDAY, USN, CHIEF OF NAVAL 
                           OPERATIONS

    Admiral Gilday. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
distinguished Members of the Committee----
    Chairman Reed. Could you bring that closer to you please, 
sir?
    Admiral Gilday. For the Chairman and Ranking Member, I 
appreciate your thanks for our service this morning, and my 
wife has joined me this morning. I would like to thank her as 
well for her support. I appreciate the opportunity to appear 
with both the Secretary of the Navy Del Toro and General Berger 
this morning.
    For more than three quarters of a century the United States 
Navy has been an anchor of world stability, deterring war, 
upholding international law, and ensuring access to the seas. 
Today, our Navy's role has never been more expansive or more 
consequential.
    This past year the Navy and Marine Corps team executed more 
than 22,000 steaming miles and nearly 1 million flying hours. 
We participated in, roughly, 100 exercises with allies and 
partners around the globe including the Arctic.
    At this moment we have about a hundred ships at sea, a 
third of the force, reassuring America's allies and partners 
that we stand the watch alongside them and remind the world 
that we seek to preserve peace but we are prepared for any 
fight.
    We are America's away team, constantly present, in contact 
with allies, partners, and potential adversaries every single 
day. Operating forward, your naval forces defend the rules-
based international order. Our Navy flies, it operates, and it 
steams wherever international law allows so that others can, 
too.
    The United States has always been a maritime nation. To 
preserve our security and our prosperity America needs a combat 
credible naval force to protect our interests in peace and to 
prevail in war, not just today but for the long run.
    Our fiscal year 2024 budget request remains consistent with 
the Navy's enduring priorities. As the Secretary stated, we are 
prioritizing readiness first with an emphasis on the sailors 
who empower everything that we do, ensuring that we are always 
combat ready.
    Next, we are modernizing our current fleet, 70 percent of 
which we will have in the water a decade from now, and third, 
we are continuing to build our capacity, ensuring we have 
relevant, lethal platforms to achieve warfighting advantage 
with a hybrid fleet of manned and unmanned platforms on, above, 
and below the seas.
    Our budget request reflects the Navy's commitment to 
deliver, to deploy, and to maintain that fleet. It fully funds 
the Columbia-class submarine, ensuring the on time delivery of 
the most survivable leg of the Nation's strategic deterrent 
triad.
    It keeps our fleet ready to fight tonight. Dedicating the 
resources necessary to train and educate resilient sailors that 
can out think, that can out decide, and that can outfight any 
potential adversary.
    It funds private and public sector ship maintenance to 100 
percent. Increasing the capacity and retaining highly skilled 
labor to get our ships back to sea faster with full magazines 
and spare parts in our storeroom to be prepared for any 
contingency.
    It invests in modernizing our fleet. Procuring weapons with 
range and speed along with integrated systems to improve fleet 
survivability, and a resilient cyber secure network 
infrastructure. It invests in capable capacity, building toward 
a larger distributed hybrid fleet. Fielding a ready fleet today 
while modernizing for the future.
    Our competitors are investing heavily in warfighting 
capabilities of their own and the oceans we are operating in 
are growing more lethal and more contested every single day. 
Failing to modernize and meet those threats would erode 
America's maritime superiority at a time when command of the 
seas will determine the balance of power for the rest of this 
century.
    This means we can no longer afford to maintain ships 
designed for a bygone era, especially at the expense of 
readiness and modernization or at the expense of buying new 
ships most relevant to today's fight.
    America cannot afford to field a hollow force. We have been 
there before and we have seen the tragic results. It is a 
mistake that we must never repeat. Ships, submarines, and 
aircraft are no doubt expensive instruments of national power 
as are the costs of maintaining them. But history shows that 
without a powerful navy the price tag could be much higher.
    Thank you again for inviting me to testify today. I look 
forward to answering your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Gilday follows:]

            Prepared Statement by Admiral Michael M. Gilday
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify on the posture 
of the United States Navy. On behalf of every American sailor, Navy 
civilian, and their families, thank you for your continued leadership 
and support.
    With increased funding in the 2023 Defense Appropriations Act, 
Congress has provided the means for the U.S. Navy to deliver the fleet 
our Nation needs in support of the 2022 National Defense Strategy. This 
investment will help us turn the corner on readiness to meet strategic 
competitors in peace and war, ensuring our ability to maintain free and 
open oceans and the international rules-based order. Moreover, 
consistent, steady funding is necessary to provide a clear signal to 
our industry partners, especially our shipbuilders, on the way ahead. 
This statement will detail where we are--and what we must do--to ensure 
our maritime dominance deep into this century.
    Flanked by two oceans, the United States has always been a maritime 
nation. The seas remain the lifeblood of our economy, our national 
security, and, consequentially, our way of life. Our livelihood depends 
upon free, open, and secure maritime trade. A strong naval force is 
essential to U.S. national security and long-term economic health. The 
United States Navy has and will continue to serve as our Nation's 
primary instrument of sea control and power projection, ensuring our 
global maritime access during times of peace and war.
    From our humble beginnings with six wooden frigates, the 
composition of the U.S. Navy has steadily evolved to defend U.S. 
interests around the world and ensure American security. For the past 
247 years, the U.S. Navy has played a critical part in defending and 
advancing national policy. For the past 77 years, we have been an 
anchor of world stability by deterring war, upholding international 
law, and assuring access to the global maritime domain for our Nation, 
our Allies, and our partners.
    Today, our Navy's role has never been more expansive or 
consequential. We now face challengers who are attempting to rewrite 
the rules-based international order and reshape the world to meet their 
autocratic desires. The People's Republic of China (PRC) has 
aggressively modernized its militaries and fielded offensive 
warfighting capabilities at unprecedented speed and scale across all 
domains. These developments are not solely to support regional designs. 
They are for global ambitions. At the same time, Russia's unprovoked, 
full-scale invasion of Ukraine has triggered the largest conflict in 
Europe since the Second World War--with combat occurring on land, sea, 
and air. The future of the global order depends on the actions we take 
in this moment.
    Our fiscal year 2024 budget request remains consistent with the 
Navy's priorities. To meet the challenges of today while building the 
fleet of tomorrow, our Navy continues to prioritize readiness first--
with a special emphasis on the sailors who empower everything we do. 
Next, we are focused on modernizing our capabilities. Then, we will 
continue to build the capacity of the fleet. Prioritized investments in 
people, technologies, critical infrastructure, and platforms ensure 
that we are ready to fight tonight, while making progress on the 
capabilities we need to maintain our combat credibility far into the 
future. To enable Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO), we must 
generate cost-effective capacity to achieve warfighting advantage with 
acceptable risk. We have already begun building the future fleet--a 
hybrid force enhanced by unmanned platforms operating on, above, and 
below the waterline.
                    navy's unique peacetime mission
    With the passage of the Fiscal Year 2023 National Defense 
Authorization Act, the United States Navy has a new mission statement. 
The old mission statement, articulated in Title 10 of U.S. Code, called 
for the Navy to be ``organized, trained and equipped primarily for 
prompt and sustained combat.'' Now, Congress has additionally charged 
the Navy with supporting ``the peacetime promotion of the national 
security interests and prosperity of the United States.''
    Though the mission statement is new, the mission is not. U.S. naval 
power has always played a unique and vital role in promoting our 
Nation's security and prosperity during peacetime. The law now 
accurately reflects our Navy's contributions throughout the history of 
our Republic.
    Whether providing humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, 
countering sea-based illicit activity, safeguarding global shipping 
lanes, saving lives, or deterring conflict, sailors advance U.S. 
interests every day. Constantly on call, our sailors are forward 
deployed in submarines, ships, and aircraft, standing guard with our 
allies and partners around the world. In part, the change to title 10 
acknowledges our historic mission and recognizes that peacetime 
activities can produce strategic results. However, the change does more 
than describe what the Navy has always done. It also highlights the 
need to build a healthy, ready naval force that will safeguard our 
Nation--one that is properly sized, equipped, and trained for the vast 
array of operations needed to preserve peace and prevail in 
competition, crisis, and conflict.
    Of all the peacetime missions that promote security and prosperity, 
deterring conflict is foremost. Our sailors are constantly present, 
operating, and training, often in parts of the world that may become 
hotspots. We are America's away team, deployed in peace and ready to 
answer the call if we are needed in war.
    During peacetime, the U.S. Navy must continue strengthening and 
expanding our network of Allies and partners. Whether in day-to-day 
competition, crisis, or conflict, Allies and partners add significant 
defense capabilities and resources. They provide integrated deterrence 
against adversaries by expanding access to maritime infrastructure 
through cost-effective, secure, reliable, and geographically 
distributed bases, and provide information in support of distributed 
operations.
    Thanks to support from Congress, we are starting to rebuild our 
fleet following two decades of ground wars. Still, rebuilding will not 
happen overnight. It will require years of stable and predictable 
funding and a long-range plan that incentivizes our industry partners 
to invest in the infrastructure and capacity needed to support our 
growing fleet.
    While most combat forces generally only meet in times of war, 
navies are in contact with potential adversaries every single day. We 
are forward deployed around the globe, sailing waters in close 
proximity to other navies, coast guards, and maritime militias, 
contesting threats to the rules-based international order and ensuring 
the world's waterways are free and open for all. In this critical 
decade, the challenges we face are mounting.
           the maritime challenges to u.s. national security
    The United States continues to face pacing, acute, and persistent 
challenges to our national security. Above all, our pacing challenge is 
the PRC. As we have witnessed over the past several decades, the PRC 
seeks to undermine U.S. alliances and security partnerships in the 
Indo-Pacific region, and leverage its growing capabilities, including 
its economic influence and the People's Liberation Army's (PLA) growing 
strength and military footprint, to coerce its neighbors and threaten 
their interests. In only two decades, the PRC has tripled the size of 
its Navy--and is on pace to quadruple to over 400 ships by 2030. 
Additionally, it has expanded its strategic nuclear capacity and 
capability, advanced its cyber, irregular warfare, and space 
capabilities, and constructed a system of sophisticated sensors and 
long-range precision weapons to intimidate neighbors, challenge free 
and open access to the seas, and hold U.S. forces and the Homeland at 
risk.
    The PRC seeks to deny United States and allied forces access within 
the First Island Chain and beyond. Advances in missile technology by 
the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Rocket Force have provided the PRC 
with the offensive means of striking U.S. and Allied forces. As the PRC 
has attempted to displace the U.S. Navy from the waters in the Western 
Pacific, the PLA Navy, alongside the People's Armed Forces Maritime 
Militia (PAFMM) and China Coast Guard (CCG), has increasingly conducted 
aggressive operations--actions just short of war--to intimidate 
neighbors and force nations to submit to Chinese territorial claims. 
Through these ``gray zone'' operations, the PRC has staked illegal 
maritime claims to offshore resources that threaten the peace, 
prosperity, and ecological stability of the world's oceans. Without 
question, the PRC's investments in offensive warfighting systems--
across all domains--are aimed at the heart of America's maritime power.
    Russia remains an acute threat as its unprovoked war of aggression 
against Ukraine continues. Although the Kremlin predicted Ukraine would 
fall within days and NATO would fracture, the citizens of Ukraine have 
successfully contested Russian forces on land, sea, and air, bolstered 
by the support of the United States and other like-minded nations. This 
war has reminded Russia, and would-be aggressors everywhere, of the 
power and importance of Allies and partners. Along with our Allies, we 
draw inspiration and strength from the tenacity and courage of the 
Ukrainian people, and we remain resolute in our responsibility to 
uphold the rules-based international order, and every nation's inherent 
right to freedom and self-determination.
    In its most provocative year of missile launches ever, North Korea 
has been a persistent threat on the Korean Peninsula as it continues to 
expand its nuclear and missile capability to threaten the United States 
Homeland, deployed United States forces, and the Republic of Korea 
(ROK) and Japan. With forces on the peninsula and vessels in the 
surrounding seas, the United States Navy and the Joint Force stand with 
our ROK Allies. During my visit to the ROK this past November, I 
confirmed that our alliance and friendship remain strong. We left no 
doubt that our commitment to extended deterrence for the Korean 
Peninsula is ironclad.
    Iran, beyond its nuclear advancements and development of missile 
systems, has been building and exporting unmanned aircraft, most 
notably to support Russia's brutal campaign in Ukraine. All the while, 
Iran is advancing maritime capabilities that threaten maritime 
chokepoints, putting at risk the free flow of energy resources and 
international commerce. Further, Iran is undermining regional stability 
supporting terrorist groups and military proxies, employing its own 
paramilitary forces, engaging in military provocations, and conducting 
malicious cyber and information operations. Global terrorist groups 
have had their capabilities degraded, but some may be able to 
reconstitute them in short order, which will require monitoring 
indications and warning against this threat.
    Whether they are pacing, acute, or persistent challengers, our 
adversaries are focused on acquiring sophisticated technologies that 
are changing the battlespace. From drone technologies to robust 
networks of sensors, our adversaries--both state-and non-state-
sponsored--have the ability to harm our national interests in myriad 
ways. In the coming years, developments in new technologies such as 
artificial intelligence (AI), quantum computing, and additive 
manufacturing will continue to disrupt the way war is conducted.
   contributions to the joint force, nested in the national defense 
                                strategy
    A combat-credible U.S. Navy--forward-deployed and integrated with 
all elements of national power--remains our Nation's most potent, 
flexible, and versatile instrument of military influence. Together with 
the U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Coast Guard, our Navy must deploy 
forward and campaign with a ready, capable, combat-credible fleet. 
Decisive naval power is a critical component of the Joint Force.
    This past July, I released an updated Navigation Plan, aligning our 
priorities of Readiness, Capabilities, and Capacity to the 2022 
National Defense Strategy (NDS). The U.S. Navy remains committed to (1) 
strengthening our Nation's deterrence, (2) campaigning through forward 
presence, and (3) building enduring warfighting advantages. In this 
rapidly changing world, a formidable naval force is crucial in 
effectively implementing the NDS and the 2022 National Security 
Strategy (NSS). The Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget request will deliver 
on our commitments to the Joint Force by aligning our planning, 
resources, and investments with national policy objectives:
    Strengthening Deterrence. Integrated deterrence--the cornerstone of 
the 2022 NDS and a strategic focus of the 2022 NSS--is how the 
Department of Defense (DOD) aligns DOD's policies, investments, and 
activities to sustain and strengthen deterrence. It is tailored to 
specific competitors and coordinated to maximum effect inside and 
outside of the DOD. Integrated deterrence leverages the Joint Force's 
combined capabilities in all domains. It emphasizes a unity of effort 
throughout the U.S. Government as the Department of Defense (DOD) 
coordinates with and supports the State Department, Intelligence 
Community, and other government agencies. Additionally, integrated 
deterrence promotes the importance of working with our Allies and 
partners to uphold the international rules-based order throughout the 
globe. Neither the DOD nor the public sector holds a monopoly on 
delivering deterrent effects--thus, we must work with America's vast 
and innovative private sector to ensure peace.
    A secure and reliable strategic nuclear deterrent backstops 
integrated deterrence. Our Navy operates and maintains the most 
survivable leg of the Nation's nuclear triad, representing 
approximately 70 percent of America's treaty-accountable, nuclear 
arsenal. Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget requests the resources to 
replace the 14 Ohio-class submarines with the more capable Columbia-
class and continue development of the second life extension of the 
TRIDENT II D5 missile, as well as refresh supporting infrastructure and 
modernize our nuclear command, control, and communications systems. Our 
Ohio-class submarines have been patrolling the oceans on deterrent 
missions for 42 years. This once-in-a-generation overhaul of our 
ballistic missile submarine force comes with a massive price tag, but 
it is a must-pay bill for the Nation so that we maintain America's 
assured second-strike capability.
    In addition to our nuclear forces, our combat-credible conventional 
naval forces reinforce deterrence. These forces deploy globally to 
protect American interests across the spectrum of conflict. Operating 
far from U.S. shores, naval forces provide the first physical line of 
U.S. Homeland Defense, preventing potential adversaries from using the 
seas to threaten the American Homeland. Naval Forces are the only 
element of national power that can fulfill this role.
    To deter war, we must continue to work more seamlessly with our 
Allies and partners across all domains and by integrating key 
technologies and other instruments of national power. Among other 
initiatives, we have been working hard to bolster the trilateral 
security partnership of Australia, the United Kingdom, and the United 
States, known as AUKUS. AUKUS is a generational opportunity to 
reinforce the collective defense and prosperity of the United States 
and two vital Allies who always stand beside us. With the overarching 
objective of promoting peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific, through 
our efforts to enable Australia to acquire a conventionally armed, 
nuclear-powered submarine capability, AUKUS provides a unique 
opportunity to strengthen the U.S. Submarine Industrial Base while 
enhancing two of our Allies' military capabilities. This trilateral 
security partnership also provides an opportunity to set the highest 
standards of nuclear nonproliferation for this critical endeavor. To 
successfully compete with the PRC and ensure a free and open Indo-
Pacific region, we will continue to find ways to integrate our efforts 
with our robust network of Allies and partners.
    The naval service's ability to control the seas and project power 
has underpinned America's national defense and economic vitality for 
generations. Sea control provides freedom of maneuver to the Joint 
Force and our Allies while denying it to our adversaries in conflict. 
Our ability to project power deters aggression by convincing rivals 
they have no viable means of achieving their objectives through force. 
Should conflict arise, forward deployed sailors and marines stand ready 
to fight alongside the rest of the Joint Force, our Allies, and our 
partners to deny enemy objectives, destroy enemy forces, and compel war 
termination.
    Forward Presence and Campaigning. Naval forces provide the United 
States strategic advantages in position, influence, and flexibility, 
independent of access to overseas land bases. Our forward posture 
guarantees our Nation the ability to respond to crisis, blunt gray-zone 
activities, and preserve a stable and secure global maritime order. The 
Navy's global maneuverability supports diplomacy, reassures our Allies, 
and generates favorable influence and access in critical regions.
    Alliances and partnerships remain the United States' greatest 
strategic advantage. Our Allies and partners recognize U.S. naval 
forces as their on-scene partner of choice for building combined 
maritime strength. In turn, the U.S. Navy recognizes the value of 
America's unmatched network. Having met with over 40 heads of navies 
around the world over the past year, I have witnessed the power of 
personal connections to bolster our collective strength. Relationships 
forged on the seas for over seven decades have been the bedrock of the 
free and open, international, rules-based order. And they will continue 
to be so.
    Our adversaries do not have the same reinforcing strength and 
global backing that America shares with like-minded nations. In turn, 
the United States provides maritime power that no other country can. 
The U.S. Navy also brings to NATO an ability to further the 
interoperable naval combat power of Allies and partners and enable 
continued deterrence in response to Russia's war on Ukraine. We also 
leverage the strength of our allies and partners as part of our 
integrated deterrence of the PRC as well. We are constantly 
strengthening interoperability, sharing maritime domain awareness, and 
helping to build capacity for resilient, integrated logistics for our 
allies and partners.
    Across the spectrum of conflict, the U.S. Navy operates forward, 
exposing and contesting malign activities of our adversaries. The U.S. 
Navy remains the partner of choice not just because of our strength, 
but also because of our respect for the rule of law.
    Building enduring warfighting advantages. To maintain our 
warfighting advantage at sea, America needs a larger and more capable 
Navy. Faced with competitors and emerging disruptive technologies, we 
must become more agile in developing and delivering our future force. 
Above all, our naval forces must be combat credible--measured by our 
ability to deliver lethal effects in contested and persistently 
surveilled battlespaces.
    In collaboration with the other U.S. Armed Services, we have 
prioritized the future capabilities we need to employ our warfighting 
concepts and maintain credible deterrence. As we build the future 
fleet, we group these critical capabilities into six overarching Force 
Design Imperatives, as I described in Navigation Plan 2022.
    Expand Distance. Long-range precision fires across all domains and 
platforms with greater reach enable naval forces to strike hostile 
targets while increasing our own survivability.
    Leverage Deception. Deceptive measures--including stealth, 
concealment and maneuver, emissions control, and electronic warfare--
degrade enemy surveillance and increase adversary uncertainty, enabling 
naval forces to operate effectively in contested battlespaces.
    Harden Defense. Integrating directed energy with hard-kill and 
soft-kill defensive systems disrupts attacks and keeps naval forces 
survivable when targeted by adversaries.
    Increase Distribution. Distributing forces geographically and in 
all domains enables them to threaten an adversary from multiple attack 
axes. Smaller, lethal, and less costly platforms--including those 
manned, unmanned, and optionally manned--further complicate threat 
targeting, generate confusion, and impose dilemmas for our adversaries.
    Ensure Delivery. Resilient logistics connecting the foundry to the 
fleet--enabled by secure communications and information technology--
refuel, rearm, resupply, repair, and revive distributed naval forces 
down to the last tactical mile.
    Generate Decision Advantage. Naval forces will out-sense, out-
decide, and out-fight any adversary by accelerating our decision cycles 
with secure, survivable, and resilient networks, accurate data, and the 
assistance of AI-enabled decision aids. Connecting sensors, weapons, 
and decisionmakers across all domains enables naval forces to mass 
firepower and influence without massing forces.
    Together, these six Force Design Imperatives enable DMO and other 
Joint warfighting concepts. These imperatives also define the 
requirements for the surface, subsurface, aviation, and information 
platforms that our fleet needs and will guide our priority investments 
going forward.
                          u.s. navy priorities
    Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget request delivers a combat-credible 
Navy designed to deter and, if necessary, prevail in conflict. To 
deliver that fleet today, tomorrow, and in the future, we will continue 
to focus on three priorities: Readiness, Capabilities, and Capacity.
    Our central challenge is balancing our investments in the future 
fleet while sustaining a forward posture that keeps America safe and 
prosperous. It is increasingly costly to operate and maintain our 
ships. We appreciate Congress' support with additional funding in 
fiscal year 2023 to mitigate the effects of inflation. We will continue 
to need congressional support of the robust budget in fiscal year 2024.
    In today's fiscal environment, we face the enormous challenge of 
simultaneously recapitalizing our strategic nuclear deterrent, century-
old dry dock facilities, and strategic sealift capacity, while 
investing in weapons and platforms we will need in a future fight. Our 
focus on Readiness, modernizing Capabilities, and building Capacity is 
a result of the threats facing our Nation today and the challenges we 
face in the decades to come. To defend our Homeland and protect our 
national interests, we cannot field a fleet larger than we can sustain. 
Hollow fleets cannot fight tonight, and sacrificing current readiness 
for future capabilities or increased ship counts would severely 
constrain our Navy's ability to respond in crisis or conflict. Our 
Nation needs a larger, more capable, more lethal fleet--but we must 
build the future fleet at a sustainable rate; not at the expense of 
warfighters that must be ready to stand the watch tonight.
                               readiness
    Readiness remains our top priority. Forward-deployed, combat-
credible forces deter conflict and protect the free and open system 
underpinning American security and prosperity.
    Across the Navy, from our shipyards and aviation depots, to our 
global network of bases and stations, to the steaming and flying hours 
our sailors need to hone their skills, we are focused on readiness. Our 
fiscal year 2024 budget request dedicates the resources necessary to 
train and educate resilient sailors that can out-think, out-decide, and 
out-fight any potential adversary. Today's security environment demands 
ships, aircraft, and submarines, as well as expeditionary, information, 
and special warfare forces that are ready to fight and win.
    The Navy is committed to accelerating our warfighting advantage by 
unleashing our people, and our ``Get Real, Get Better'' call to action 
empowers our warfighters to find and fix problems, and to innovate at 
every level, from the deckplates to our senior leaders. While our Navy 
team remains the most capable maritime force in the world, we have 
identified unacceptable variability in our performance. To address 
this, we must standardize and incentivize best practices, leadership 
behaviors, and problem-solving techniques throughout the force to 
reduce this variability and unleash our full potential. The essential 
element is fostering a healthy ecosystem--a culture--that assesses, 
corrects, and innovates better than the opposition, accelerating our 
warfighting advantage in this critical decade.
    This past year, the Navy-Marine Corps team executed more than 
22,000 steaming days and nearly one million flying hours. Additionally, 
the Navy participated in roughly 100 exercises with Allies and partners 
across the globe, strengthening America's integrated deterrence. We are 
planning for similarly robust level of exercises and engagement efforts 
over the next year and in years ahead. As our naval forces remain in 
high demand, our budget request emphasizes critical aspects of our 
readiness. Our sailors stand ready all over the world, from Sasebo to 
San Diego and from Norfolk to Naples, as our Navy keeps the oceans open 
and free.
    Since the invasion of Ukraine, the Navy has had a continuous 
Carrier Strike Group presence in the Mediterranean, from the extended 
deployment of the USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75), to the current 
deployment of the USS George H. W. Bush (CVN 77) Carrier Strike Group. 
Furthermore, the Navy provided early support to European Command 
operations with surge deployments of additional forces, to include six 
destroyers, two P-8 aircraft, two submarines, and a destroyer squadron 
staff. Our sailors have been present where it matters, when it matters. 
Additionally, America's first-in-class aircraft carrier USS Gerald R. 
Ford (CVN 78) returned to Naval Station Norfolk in November after 
successfully completing its inaugural deployment in the Atlantic, 
conducting exercises, strategic engagements, and port visits with 
Allies and partners.
    We have deepened our integration with the U.S. Marine Corps with 
the establishment of Task Force 61/2 under Naval Forces Europe. This 
effort streamlined command and control of Navy and Marine Corps forces 
deployed to act as a deterrent and reinforce Alliance cohesion in the 
wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. We operationalized this cohesion 
with the deployment of the USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) Amphibious Readiness 
Group (ARG) with the 22d Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) embarked. 
After the USS Kearsarge ARG-MEU deployment, the same team provided the 
core U.S. military command element that quickly established 
humanitarian support for Turkiye after the recent earthquake, utilizing 
the USS Hershel ``Woody'' Williams (ESB 4) to deliver disaster relief 
supplies for those affected by the earthquakes.
    Our Navy defends the Homeland and ensures maritime routes remain 
free and open, fostering compliance with existing rules to assure 
global peace and prosperity, including in the Arctic Region. Increased 
competition in the area by both Arctic and non-Arctic nations, as a 
result of increasingly navigable waters, demands additional attention 
from America's tri-service maritime forces. With the Marine Corps and 
the Coast Guard, the U.S. Navy jointly trains for operations in Arctic 
conditions and, since 1958, our submarines continue to conduct routine 
operations in the Arctic region. We participated in numerous exercises 
in 2022--NORTHERN VIKING, COLD RESPONSE 2022, DYNAMIC MONGOOSE, ARCTIC 
EDGE, and ICEX--with several more planned for 2023 in the high north to 
ensure we are ready to respond in that region in times of crisis and 
conflict. As we did this past year, we will continue to work closely 
with our strong network of Allies & partners from Canada, Iceland, 
Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Norway, and United Kingdom among many other 
nations that share a vision of a free, open and stable Arctic. Beyond 
training and operations, our Navy continues important communications, 
surveillance, navigation, marine meteorology, and physical oceanography 
research activities to improve situational awareness in support of 
future cold weather high-latitude operations, including the Arctic 
Submarine Lab and Polar Over the Horizon Radar. For example, prototype 
components of the Arctic Mobile Observing System will be deployed in 
October 2023 using a variety of autonomous platforms over a year-long 
deployment to demonstrate under-ice navigation, communication, and 
environmental sensing. Overall, this budget includes $39 million in 
fiscal year 2024 and $236 million across the FYDP for Arctic research 
and operations. Now and in the future, the U.S. Navy stands ready to 
respond to changing geopolitical and climate conditions in the Arctic.
    To deliver forward presence and capability, our Navy continues to 
make progress improvements. For example, our aircraft depots are 
reducing the time it takes to conduct maintenance and return aircraft 
and engines back to the Fleet. Our President' Budget 2024 request 
improves funding over fiscal year 2023 enactment to sustain gains in 
our aircraft mission capable rates. Of note, in our aviation depot 
maintenance account, we increase funding for engines by $25 million, $9 
million for components, and $1 million for our Depot Readiness 
Initiative. The President' Budget 2024 request provides for the 
operation, maintenance and training of nine Active Navy Carrier Air 
Wings, with the necessary flight hours and maintenance efforts to 
ensure their carrier and expeditionary strike groups are combat ready. 
The budget request aligns with our broader focus across Naval Aviation 
to increase lethality and readiness through process improvement and 
finding efficiencies at all organizational levels. As aviation costs--
across both the private and public sectors--continue to increase, the 
Navy recognizes the need to maintain a relentless drive to reap the 
full benefit of every investment dollar.
    Better maintenance performance has been a point of emphasis across 
the Navy. Repeatedly deploying combat-credible forces starts with 
performing high-quality maintenance on time and in full. Data-driven 
reforms such as Performance-to-Plan (P2P), the Naval Sustainment System 
(NSS), and other initiatives continue to improve maintenance processes 
and increase operational availability. Over the last several years, the 
aviation community has enhanced readiness as we maintained over the 
threshold Mission Capable Rate for most Type-Model-Series Aircraft, 
including the F/A-18E/F, E/A-18G, E-2D, P-8A, MH-60R, and MH-60S. This 
represents a significant improvement in Navy aircraft readiness, but we 
are not yet satisfied. We are getting real and getting better at 
applying what we have learned in aviation to our maintenance processes 
across the fleet.
    We continue to take a data-driven approach to improve surface ship 
and submarine maintenance, and we have seen positive results. However, 
unprecedented hiring challenges in a competitive job market, along with 
sustained, pandemic-induced delays and supply chain issues, have 
hampered progress for our public and private shipyards. Our budget 
request funds both private and public sector ship maintenance to 100 
percent, with a focus on increasing capacity and retaining highly 
skilled labor at the public shipyards. On top of those resources, we 
have invested considerably in other requirements essential to the 
material condition of our Fleet. Completing maintenance for our 
Virginia-class submarines and returning them to the Fleet on time is a 
critical warfighting priority. To that end, we added $541 million for 
Virginia-class materiel and spares to build depth and breadth in on-
hand inventory to help ensure that the necessary parts are available 
when required during maintenance availabilities.
    We remain committed to driving down costs wherever and whenever 
possible. In particular, P2P-driven improvements--such as the goal of 
awarding contracts 120 days before the start of a maintenance 
availability, level loading ports through better prediction of 
workload, better availability planning, and improved long-lead-time 
material acquisition--have provided effective solutions for readiness. 
Still, just like our industrial partners, our public shipyards face 
headwinds from workforce constraints, supply chain logjams, and 
increased costs due to inflation. We recognize the challenges, are not 
satisfied with current conditions, and will continue to invest in 
people, processes, and infrastructure to drive maintenance delays down 
to the only acceptable number--zero.
    Today, the average age of U.S. naval shipyard facilities and 
related infrastructure is 62 years, while the average dry dock age is 
approaching 100 years. The Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program 
(SIOP) provides a strategic roadmap for necessary investments in our 
public shipyard dry docks, capital equipment, and facilities. We are 
committed to taking a holistic, analytic approach to our critical shore 
infrastructure, making necessary investments to overhaul and optimize 
our Nation's shipyards through SIOP, and ensuring our shore 
establishment can support fleet operations. With $2.7 billion requested 
for SIOP in our budget request, the Navy can continue to upgrade and 
reconfigure our four public shipyards. This robust investment in the 
infrastructure and facilities of our four public shipyards is a vital 
effort to maintain and support upgrades of current and future 
submarines, aircraft carriers, and surface combatants.
    When fully executed, SIOP will deliver required dry dock repairs 
and system upgrades that will optimize workflow within the shipyards 
through significant changes to their physical layout. Moreover, the 
SIOP investments allow the public shipyards to recapitalize industrial 
plant equipment with modern technology that will substantially increase 
productivity and worker safety. As a result of previous SIOP 
investments, we have already completed construction of the Super Flood 
Basin at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard, construction of the Norfolk Naval 
Shipyard Production Training Facility, and design of Pearl Harbor Naval 
Shipyard Dry Dock 3 Replacement. We remain committed to working with 
Congress, DOD leadership, the shipyard workforce, impacted communities, 
regulators, and industry leaders as we continue to drive down 
maintenance delays. We acknowledge that submarines are still 
experiencing an unacceptable amount of delay days. Still, these 
investments in our four public shipyards are rebuilding the industrial 
base we need to maintain, upgrade, and return our ships, submarines and 
aircraft carriers back where they belong--deployed at sea.
    Maintenance delays and other readiness issues are not solely 
shipyard problems. To ensure fleet readiness, we must also reinforce 
and build resiliency into our supply chain, and prevent undue influence 
by strategic competitors. The Naval Sustainment System-Supply is 
driving end-to-end naval supply chain integration and reform as it 
streamlines the Navy's supply chains to increase readiness, decrease 
turn-around times, increase availability of spares, and reduce costs. 
The key to sustained success will come from the better use of data as 
we improve the resilience and responsiveness of the Naval Supply 
System.
    Our sailors--and the civilian workforce that supports the fleet--
remain our most important weapon system. We must continue to evaluate 
and improve our capabilities to achieve our mission of attracting, 
developing, and managing talent to ensure our advantage at sea while 
providing exceptional service to our sailors and their families. 
Notably, our budget request contains a substantial 5.2 percent pay 
raise for our military and civilians. From education and training to 
overall health and wellness, our budget invests in our Navy's most 
important asset--our people.
    To ensure the readiness of every operational unit, we are working 
hard to resolve the manpower problems that exist in the fleet. The 
solution begins with more robust recruiting and retention efforts. We 
also need to keep honing and optimizing personnel readiness metrics to 
include the experience and proficiency of sailors to determine whether 
operational units are getting personnel with the right skills. The 
solution demands the continuous effort of leadership as we must 
continue to prioritize and care for our sailors and civilians.
    The Navy continues the Fleet Training Wholeness initiative to 
integrate live platforms and simulators across our strike groups. This 
initiative funds Live, Virtual, and Constructive (LVC) training at the 
unit and strike group levels. In the fleet, LVC continues to be a game-
changer in training our combat leaders. To date, fleet exercises like 
Large Scale Exercise-21 have connected eight Maritime Operations 
Centers, three Marine Force Operations Centers, eight Carrier and 
Expeditionary Strike Groups, and 30 ships into a single LVC training 
environment. As we look ahead to Large Scale Exercise-23, planned for 
August of this year, our expanding LVC capabilities will only increase 
the numbers of total participants--training both at-sea and pierside--
in an advanced, global scenario. From the pilot in the cockpit to the 
technician on the radar scope, LVC initiatives allow warfighters in all 
domains to train together at unprecedented levels of integration and 
complexity.
    Investments in training like the Ready Relevant Learning (RRL) 
initiative allow the Navy to continue to modernize Navy training and 
accelerate new delivery methods, supplementing our traditional brick-
and-mortar schoolhouses with modern, multi-media, multi-platform 
solutions. In addition, RRL will develop Career-Long Learning 
Continuums for Navy ratings to map out technical, professional, and 
leadership training requirements for apprentice, journeyman, and master 
level milestones in a sailor's career. Career-Long Learning Continuum 
efforts will change the paradigms of Navy training by delivering Navy 
Enlisted Classification refresher training, performance support at the 
point of need coupled with journeyman and master core training to close 
not only existing capability gaps, but also enhance fleet readiness.
    To maintain a Fleet prepared to fight and win in long-term 
strategic competition, we continue to evaluate and improve our 
capability to attract, develop, and manage a talented and diverse 
workforce. Furthermore, at a time of intense talent competition and a 
rapidly evolving tactical and technical landscape, we are committed to 
modernizing and enhancing our entire talent management approach to 
recruit and retain the best and brightest. We are also reengineering 
advancement and assignment policies and practices to deliver a positive 
sailor experience in terms of transparency, flexibility, and career-
driven choice, while attempting to balance sailor personal and 
professional desires with Navy priorities.
    As part of this initiative, we released MyNavy Assignment (MNA)--an 
upgrade to our detailing platform providing visibility of all available 
billets as part of the Detailing Marketplace Assignment Policy (DMAP). 
MNA is a modern user interface providing sailors the ability to 
bookmark billets of interest and provide amplifying information. DMAP 
continues to expand sailors' options beyond the traditional enlisted 
career paths. It also rewards sailors in sea-intensive ratings who stay 
on sea duty by offering assignment-based monetary incentives and early 
advancement opportunities for many sailors who possess the requisite 
proficiency and experience. We expanded this practice and policy to 
supervisor positions through the Senior Enlisted Marketplace (SEM), 
beginning with Master Chief billets during fiscal year 2024 advancement 
selection boards. We plan to expand to Senior Chief and Chief Petty 
Officer billets in the following 2 years to expand SEM to become the 
primary means of advancement.
    To accelerate those sailors with the highest competence and 
strongest record, we expanded the Advancement-to-Position (A2P) program 
to fill priority supervisor and journeyman-level billets in eight 
additional ratings. A2P assists in filling critical gaps and rewards 
proven performers willing to take a difficult assignment with a spot 
promotion. We have also empowered commanding officers and officers-in-
charge to reward top performers with both an advancement and geographic 
stability allowed by a guaranteed follow-on 3-year assignment at the 
same unit through the Command Advancement-to-Position program. These 
talent management initiatives support sailor development, increase 
transparency, and generate Fleet-wide, warfighting readiness.
    With great sadness, we recognize that suicide rates increased in 
2022. Navy leaders and I have been traveling to ships, squadrons, and 
bases to listen, learn, and help. Every loss of life is a tragedy. As 
we continue to destigmatize mental health treatment, we are working to 
ensure every Member has access to the full continuum of mental health 
support. Our budget request expands mental health programs like sailor 
Assistance and Intercept for Life, adds support for the 21st Century 
Sailor Office, and increases our Warrior Toughness Teams to help foster 
the mental, physical, and spiritual resilience of our forces. Along 
with these programs, we are working to ensure the availability of 
mental health and wellness support worldwide, including at specialty 
and primary care clinics, Navy installation counseling centers, on the 
waterfront, embedded within the fleet, and via virtual health 
platforms. Navy Chaplains and deployed resiliency counselors provide 
confidential counseling and are essential in ensuring the spiritual 
readiness and resiliency of the Naval Force. The Navy's budget request 
continues to resource quality care for our sailors and support services 
for them and their families.
    Though we work in the profession of arms and accept the hazards 
that come with defending our country, all sailors deserve to be treated 
with respect and dignity and should feel safe among their fellow 
shipmates. We are focused on creating a culture intolerant of sexual 
assault and are actively executing and evaluating the DOD Prevention 
Plan of Action. This is a comprehensive approach to promote prevention 
and reduce destructive personnel behaviors that lead to incidents. In 
addition, we are implementing the 82 Independent Review Commission 
(IRC) recommendations on accountability, prevention, climate, culture, 
and victim care. Sexual Assault Prevention and Response (SAPR) 
personnel remain fully available to sailors worldwide to address 
victims' physical, mental, and emotional well-being, strengthen 
resilience, encourage reporting, and support victim recovery.
    Moreover, we do not accept any form of sexual harassment in our 
Navy. To ensure sailors are heard, and to remove actual or perceived 
bias from the process, Navy Sexual Harassment investigations are now 
conducted by an independent third party assigned from outside the 
command. Likewise, the establishment of the Navy's Office of Special 
Trial Counsel ensures that accountability for sexual assault and sexual 
harassment, among other serious offenses, will be handled by an 
independent, specialized, and expert cadre of professionals. We listen, 
and we continue to learn. Our work to eliminate sexual assaults and 
remove sexual harassment from our fleet is not done.
    When sailors are valued for their diverse talents and are treated 
with respect and dignity, they feel a sense of belonging to their teams 
and deliver a higher level of performance. With nearly 50 percent of 
recruitable talent coming from diverse populations, the Navy must be 
deliberate in advancing a culture where every person, regardless of 
their background, has the opportunity to succeed as a sailor and where 
our Navy, in turn, benefits from our sailors' talents, experiences, and 
insights. We have built on lessons learned from our findings in Task 
Force One Navy and have launched 53 Task Force One Navy initiatives, 
which remain on track for full implementation.
    All of our most pressing challenges require strong leadership. 
However, in the past year, as required to support the Space Force and 
by the fiscal year 2017 National Defense Authorization Act, the Navy 
reduced more than 8 percent of its Flag Officer billets. These 
leadership reductions come at a high cost to maintaining operational 
readiness, impeding the Navy's efforts in an already challenging 
operational environment. At present, nearly one-third of the Navy's 
remaining 149 Flag Officer billets are double-or triple-hatted. These 
significant additional demands on leadership have ripple effects on 
readiness that negatively permeate across the fleet. To ensure our Navy 
can respond in crisis and win in conflict, we need Flag Officers with 
the focus and bandwidth to respond thoughtfully to the many challenges 
the Navy must navigate.
    In the Navy, we serve as families. To improve the lives of our 
sailors and their families, we continue to focus on improving the 
consistency of sailor pay, quality of unaccompanied housing, and other 
quality of life services. This includes installing broadband internet 
services and wireless connectivity, improving berthing barge living 
conditions, improving crew parking and transportation, and ensuring an 
overall better experience for sailors on the waterfront. Access to 
high-quality childcare is critical to supporting our warfighters. Our 
budget request supports increased staff salaries and adds two new Child 
Development Centers. Funding will also support adding full-day pre-
Kindergarten opportunities at overseas locations.
    We know that to retain our Force of talented and trained sailors we 
must continue to invest in ways that benefit them and their families, 
while providing environments that make them feel valued and enable them 
to serve honorably. Continued funding to improve the lives of sailors 
will be our greatest return on investment. Our people form the keel of 
our fleet's readiness and they will inspire the next generation to 
answer our Nation's call to serve.
                              capabilities
    The Navy's budget request makes substantial investments that will 
modernize our capabilities. The Navy prioritizes delivering 
capabilities that can achieve lethal and persistent effects inside 
adversary weapon engagement zones, generate advantages to create off-
ramps in crisis, and decisively win should crisis escalate into 
conflict. As the challenges in this era require the support and unified 
effort of Allies and partners, it is fundamental to our success that we 
develop compatible and complementary capabilities. To win now and in 
the future, we strive not only for interoperability with Allies and 
partners, but also for interchangeability across the combined force.
    As we build and deploy a Navy capable of deterring and, if 
necessary, defeating a strategic competitor, we must prioritize 
capabilities for DMO--our Navy's foundational operating concept for 
maintaining warfighting advantage in contested seas. The Navy's budget 
request focuses on delivering these critical capabilities. To expand 
our reach, we are investing in hypersonic weapons, space-based 
capabilities, unmanned tanking, and long-range precision fires. For 
increased deception and defense, we are investing in undersea 
platforms, weapons, and systems, next-generation aircraft and surface 
platforms, cyber capabilities, counter-surveillance, and integrated 
weapons systems. Finally, we are investing in smaller, lethal 
platforms, autonomous systems in all domains, AI, resilient logistics, 
and integrated combat systems and networks, all of which enable a more 
distributed fleet, the delivery to sustain it, and expand our decision 
advantage.
    Our adversaries are also heavily investing in emerging 
technologies. In response, the Navy will adopt a more agile approach to 
experimentation and force modernization, leveraging partnerships with 
industry and academia. Working closely with Allies and partners, we 
will expand our partnerships across the entire technology ecosystem. 
Maritime dominance has always depended upon the employment of game-
changing capabilities in combat.
    Rising to meet today's challenges with unmatched capabilities, the 
Navy-Marine Corps combat team completed its first deployment of F-35C 
and CMV-22B this past year. The warfighting advantages these platforms 
bring to the battlespace provide the Joint Force with an undeniable, 
lethal edge over our adversaries. Both aircraft, though different 
mission sets, allow our forces to project power deep behind enemy 
lines. In addition, the USS Gerald R. Ford completed its first 
deployment. This aircraft carrier not only signals the next generation 
of our fleets' principal weapon of power projection has arrived, but 
also that our Nation remains poised and committed to maintaining our 
warfighting advantage for decades to come. Deploying such capabilities 
and platforms marks the culmination of many years and many people's 
hard work, showing the capabilities that our Nation can bring to bear.
    One of the key areas that is shaping and will continue to shape 
future warfare is the incorporation of cyber-warfare tools to detect 
and defeat adversary attempts to infiltrate and disrupt our warfighting 
systems. The Navy continues to make this a priority focus area to 
ensure our forces are ready to respond to adversary cyber-attacks. In 
addition, the Navy is working closely with the Joint Force to develop 
cyber capabilities that can be used across the entire spectrum of 
conflict. As such, the Navy will continue moving from its current 
compliance-based cybersecurity approach to one where the right to 
operate is earned and managed every day. Teams organized around the 
Department's recently announced Cyber Ready effort will develop 
solutions, select tools, and produce methods, policies, guidance, and 
concepts of operation for instituting this new approach. A critical 
element to implementing this approach is the need to ensure the Navy 
has a skilled cyber-workforce comprised of both military and civilian 
cyber experts. To ensure the Navy has the cyber workforce the Nation 
needs, and in alignment with congressional intent, we are implementing 
a dedicated cyber designator. We remain committed to growing this 
capability alongside the Joint Force, as well as with our Allies and 
partners, collectively building a more robust security outlook.
    In response to potential adversaries developing and fielding 
hypersonic missile systems, the Navy collaborated with the rest of the 
defense enterprise to make hypersonics one of our highest priority 
modernization efforts. This past year has been marked with certified 
successes for our Conventional Prompt Strike capability. In 2022, we 
conducted one First Stage and one Second Stage Solid Rocket Motor 
static fires, marking five successful static fire tests of the newly 
developed missile. In another joint effort, the Navy Strategic Systems 
Programs and the Army Hypersonic Project Office successfully conducted 
the second High Operational Tempo for Hypersonics flight campaign in 
October, 2022. These developments represent significant progress in our 
hypersonic capabilities, and both programs are on track to support the 
first fielding of a hypersonic capability to the Army later this year. 
Both the Army and the Navy programs are on track to support the first 
fielding of a hypersonic capability to the Army later this year. Stable 
funding at the requested level will keep this critical capability on 
track to field on Zumwalt-class DDGs, followed by Virginia-class SSNs 
equipped with the Virginia Payload Module. The rapid development and 
demonstration of conventional land and sea-based hypersonic strike 
weapon systems support our Nation's ability to deter and, if necessary, 
defeat potential strategic competitors. Modernizing capabilities will 
remain a priority to ensure our Navy maintains warfighting advantage.
    Weapons with range and speed are critical capabilities. Our budget 
request pursues four multi-year procurement contracts for Advanced 
Medium Range Air-to-Air Missiles and Standard Missile-6 (SM-6). In 
addition, our request allows us to continue to work jointly with the 
Air Force in the procurement and production of Joint Air-to-Surface 
Standoff Missiles and Long Range Anti-Ship Missiles. We are also 
increasing our investments in Maritime Strike Tomahawks, as well as 
refreshing and recertifying existing Tomahawks and MK-48 Heavyweight 
Torpedoes.
    Above the sea, we remain resolute in our commitment to the Joint 
Force in establishing air superiority in the maritime domain, and 
sustaining our unique ability to project power from the flight decks of 
our aircraft carriers. The Navy's President' Budget 2024 request 
supports procurement of thirty-four aircraft, modification, spares and 
support equipment. In this budget, our significant aviation investments 
include 15 F-35C Lightning II's, 14 Multi-Engine Training Systems, 2 
MQ-4 Tritons, and 3 MQ-25 Stingray II's. These advanced platforms are 
helping us drive down risk in our future carrier airwings, which will 
fully integrate unmanned carrier aviation. This past year, we completed 
MQ-25A aircraft in-flight refueling of Navy carrier-based aircraft and 
its first carrier demonstration. This unmanned aerial platform will 
complement the capability of our combat strike fighters and extend the 
range of our aircraft carriers.
    We continue to make progress on the future technologies we need. 
This past year, we completed over 4000 hours and 46,000 nautical miles 
of unmanned surface vehicle operations. These unmanned systems, and 
others like them, will play a key role in building our capability to 
conduct DMO. To operationalize the Department's Unmanned Campaign Plan, 
we established Task Force 59, which has been a game-changer for the 
fleet. As we prioritize the Indo-Pacific and push warships to patrol 
those waters, we have leveraged unmanned surface vessels and achieved 
outstanding maritime domain awareness in a critical region with three 
major chokepoints--the Suez Canal, the Bab Al-Mandab, and the Strait of 
Hormuz--spanning a maritime area the size of California. This 
achievement provides the Navy with scalable solutions to monitor the 
world's waterways and keep the oceans open and free.
    As AI and other disruptive technologies rapidly proliferate, we 
must proactively work to gain every advantage. Many of these rising 
technological developments play to our strengths as a Nation. More 
sensors, providing more information, create more battlespace 
transparency. Our application of AI solutions will provide our forces 
with decision superiority as we map, measure, manage, and govern the 
battle space. We will continuously leverage such technological 
developments to better the fleet and our sailors. While strengthening 
our Force, we must remain aware that no nation has a monopoly on 
innovation--and history has shown us the navy that continues to adapt, 
learn, and improve the fastest gains a strategic warfighting advantage.
    To enhance our current and future hybrid fleet, we are maturing AI-
enabled warfighting capabilities and developing an AI-ready workforce. 
This past year, Task Force 59 led and participated in International 
Maritime Exercise (IMX) 2022, the largest maritime AI and autonomous 
system exercise ever held. Along with this IMX, we executed Digital 
Horizon, an event exercising 15 advanced unmanned systems, 10 of which 
operated in the Middle East for the first time. Task Force 59 led 
industry partners during phased evolutions, both ashore and at sea, to 
advance fleet efforts to enhance regional maritime awareness with 
greater effectiveness and reduced cost.
    Along with building testing platforms and driving operational 
concepts for the future fleet, Task Force 59 advances our understanding 
of commercial technology that has the potential to complement other 
government-sponsored AI procurement and operations. In support of these 
efforts, the Unmanned Task Force continues to focus on rapid 
experimentation and solving operational problems to quickly inform 
acquisition strategies. We also continued work with partners and Allies 
in events such as NATO Maritime Unmanned Systems Initiative Exercises.
    Strategic sealift investments are returning improved capability for 
the fleet and Joint Force. Our Navy's commitment to surge sealift 
requirements continues through procurement and refurbishment of used 
commercial Roll-On Roll-Off ships to replace aging Ready Reserve Force 
capacity. In 2022, the U.S. Navy purchased five used sealift vessels 
and received authorization to buy another two in 2023. President' 
Budget 2024 requests funds for the purchase of up to two more used 
vessels in fiscal year 2024 and fiscal year 2025. We will need 
congressional support to fully execute this cost-effective strategy. 
The buy-used recapitalization program provides a stable acquisition 
profile with forecasted maintenance and repair costs to meet strategic 
mobility requirements at a moderate level of risk. In parallel with 
recapitalizing strategic sealift, the Navy is researching and 
developing future joint distribution capabilities and making 
significant investments to meet fleet and joint refueling requirements.
                                capacity
    Congress's support of the Navy's shipbuilding budget this past year 
helped us signal our partners in industry--as well as our challengers 
around the world--that we will remain the world's strongest maritime 
power. Authorizing and appropriating the procurement of 12 battle force 
ships displays Congress' continued commitment to the Navy's 
shipbuilding programs. We appreciate the strong support by Congress for 
naval shipbuilding during fiscal year 2023 enactment. This year, our 
budget requests funding for procurement of an additional nine battle 
force ships.
    With sustained funding, the Navy can turn the corner on beginning 
to build the fleet this Nation needs: a combat-credible, hybrid fleet 
capable of succeeding across the continuum of day-to-day competition, 
crisis, and conflict. We also need a fleet with the capacity to 
distribute assets and deliver larger volumes of kinetic and non-kinetic 
effects across all domains to meet the strategic and operational 
demands of the Joint Force.
    The Navy's most critical role in support of our national defense 
and robust nuclear posture continues to be maintaining the most lethal 
ballistic missile submarines in the world. Thus, our number one 
acquisition priority remains the on-time delivery of the Columbia-class 
ballistic missile submarine. Originally designed for a 30-year service 
life, the first of the Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines will be 
retired in 2027 after 42 years of highly effective deterrent patrols. 
The Columbia-class will replace it as the Navy's contribution to the 
nuclear triad--which remains the most survivable leg of the U.S. 
strategic nuclear deterrent force. This is a once-in-a-generation 
investment, and sustaining our Nation's most secure and reliable 
strategic nuclear deterrent will require considerable resources. When 
the Columbia-class enters full-rate production in fiscal year 2026, 
delivering the Nation's sea-based nuclear deterrent will consume nearly 
a quarter of the Navy's entire shipbuilding budget. The Navy's request 
funds the second Columbia-class submarine and delivery of the first 
vessel in fiscal year 2028. Specifically, the Columbia-class program 
request of $5.8 billion, includes the first of 2 years of incremental 
full funding for the second submarine, to be awarded in fiscal year 
2024. The budget request also includes continuing Integrated Enterprise 
Plan funding initiatives, material procurement for future boats, and 
continued funding for Submarine Industrial Base investments. The 
strategic significance of this platform requires the Navy and the 
Nation to dedicate the necessary resources to ensure its on-time 
delivery.
    Shipbuilding remains critical to increasing our fleet's capacity, 
and requires significant investments from both the Government, as 
included in the fiscal year 2024 request, and the private sector. A 
combined commitment ensures healthy competition in the shipbuilding 
industrial base, which is vital to meeting Navy requirements in support 
of our national interests and defense of the Homeland. With the help of 
Congress, the Navy and private shipbuilders are identifying 
opportunities to generate resiliency and productivity in the 
shipbuilding workforce. Part of the challenge of growing the fleet is 
having enough shipyards with the capacity and workforce to build the 
ships that we are budgeted.
    The shipbuilding industrial base faces an increase in demand across 
the enterprise, particularly in nuclear ship construction. As the Navy 
ramps up production of the Columbia-class, we continue to procure two 
Virginia-class submarines per year. The Virginia-class submarine budget 
requests $10.3 billion, or 32 percent of this appropriation, funding 
two Block V submarines and Advance Procurement for two fiscal year 2025 
and two fiscal year 2026 submarines. These investments are important to 
meet U.S. requirements, and are critical as we accelerate work to 
deliver on our commitments under AUKUS. The Navy is working with the 
Department of Defense, Congress, and industry as analysis of the 
optimal pathway refines future SSN workload.
    Additionally, we continue production of the world's most capable, 
most lethal surface vessels. The Ford-class carrier program requests 
$1.9 billion, and funds the seventh increment of funding for CVN 80, 
and the sixth increment of funding for CVN 81. As part of the surface 
combatant portfolio, our budget requests $4.5 billion for two Arleigh 
Burke-class Destroyers as part of the fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 
2027 multi-year procurement of modern Flight III Destroyers. We plan to 
award these destroyers this fiscal year. To support the building of our 
Constellation-class Frigates, our request includes $2.2 billion for the 
fifth and sixth ships of this class. These investments ensure that we 
field a fleet that sails forward, keeps the oceans open, and ensures 
our maritime advantage on and below the seas.
    To ensure that we can build the future submarines and aircraft 
carriers, we are taking steps to expand and strengthen the nuclear 
industrial base by investing in six key areas: shipbuilder 
infrastructure, supply chain capability/capacity, scaling new 
technologies, addressing workforce trade skill gaps and constraints, 
expanding productive capacity via strategic outsourcing of large scale 
fabrication, and government oversight of expanded industrial base 
efforts. In the Navy, any time we are splitting atoms, we know the work 
will be demanding, but these nuclear-powered platforms require our 
sustained commitment and continued support of the shipbuilders 
delivering these critical assets to the fleet.
    Beyond these nuclear shipbuilding projects, we are working closely 
with private shipyards to strengthen the Surface Combatant Industrial 
Base and Frigate Industrial Base. A key focus has been on the Workforce 
Development investments that address risk in schedules, increase 
capability to meet future force structure, promote job creation and 
economic security, and address risk in single or fragile supply chains. 
Expanding the capabilities of suppliers and shipyard infrastructure in 
the surface ship industrial base results in greater industrial base 
stability, cost savings, and improved efficiency as production 
increases to build greater quantities of surface combatants. These 
initiatives are paralleled by ongoing private sector investments to 
expand the Nation's shipbuilding industrial base. We support any 
efforts to grow our capacity to build more ships annually. This is all 
part of a long-term commitment and clear signal to industry that the 
unique work done in our private shipyards is essential to the Nation, 
and the workforce they provide will be gainfully employed for years to 
come. The Nation's shipbuilding industrial base remains a strategic 
asset. It requires continued support to expand its capacity, and to 
recruit and retain the workforce the Nation needs to deliver the fleet 
of tomorrow.
    A robust munitions industrial base, capable of delivering critical 
munitions in large quantities and in strategically relevant timeframes, 
is also an essential component of our Nation's warfighting capacity. 
The rapid expenditure of munitions in Ukraine has demonstrated the 
timeless truth that industrial capacity is a key enabler of victory. 
Our budget request adds over $2 billion in critical munitions 
investments, including supporting multi-year procurement contracts. We 
are working closely with our defense partners to make the necessary 
investments to allow us to rapidly ramp up production of critical 
munitions right now. We are taking a multi-pronged approach to 
introduce both stability and competition into the weapons acquisition 
process in order to accelerate delivery times, increase inventories, 
and lower costs. This includes use of multi-year contracts and large 
lot procurements, recertification of existing munitions, new 
production, and exploration of alternative systems designed to 
circumvent our adversaries' advantages and play to our strengths. We 
are also working with our partners and Allies to ensure their 
requirements are met, as well. Today's weapons are intricate, 
specialized, and depend on complex supply chains, which challenges our 
ability to quickly ramp up production. We cannot afford to wait until 
conflict begins to make these critical munitions capacity investments.
    Unmanned systems will play an ever-increasing role in expanding the 
capacity and distribution of our fleet. We will explore opportunities 
to scale proven capabilities of unmanned Maritime Domain Awareness 
systems, such as those demonstrated by Task Force 59. In addition, the 
AI-enabled software that meshes our network of systems and platforms 
will provide an array of decision advantage solutions as we track 
forces, manage the battlespace, and maintain our dominance at sea. 
Finally, we must focus on accelerating the adoption of technologies and 
scalable platforms that provide increased capability and capacity, 
while laying the foundation for our future hybrid fleet.
                               conclusion
    The U.S. Navy's mission has never been more essential for the 
preservation of American security and prosperity. Facing increasingly 
aggressive challengers, the Navy's priorities--Readiness, Capabilities, 
Capacity--will help us maintain our combat credibility in contested 
seas.
    In line with the NDS, the Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget request 
keeps us on a steady path to modernize U.S. naval power, while 
maintaining readiness and sustaining a forward posture that keeps 
America and our Allies safe and prosperous.
    Capable ships, submarines, and aircraft are expensive instruments 
of national power, as are the costs of maintaining and sustaining them. 
However, without a ready, powerful Navy, the costs we incur in 
potential conflict could be much higher. The investments we make now 
will shape the global maritime balance of power for the rest of this 
century.
    This is my final testimony before this Committee. It has been the 
honor of a lifetime serving as the Chief of Naval Operations these past 
three-plus years.
    On behalf of more than 600,000 Active and Reserve sailors and Navy 
civilians, thank you for allowing me to testify today. I am grateful to 
this Committee and to your colleagues in Congress for your steadfast 
commitment to the Navy. Let us continue our work to deliver the Navy 
that this Nation deserves--a Navy that will preserve peace, strengthen 
prosperity, and defend America for many decades to come.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Admiral Gilday.
    General Berger, please?

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL DAVID H. BERGER, USMC, COMMANDANT OF THE 
                          MARINE CORPS

    General Berger. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, I also thank you for 
your comments, and my wife, Donna, is here also as is the 
sergeant major of the Marine Corps and his wife, and it has 
been the privilege of a lifetime and this is the best team you 
could ever hope to match up with.
    Three years ago I appeared before you and described how 
change, in my opinion--rapid change--was required to meet our 
statutory requirements and the mandates of the National Defense 
Strategy for the future, and with the bipartisan help of this 
Committee and the civilian leadership in the Pentagon I am here 
to tell you that Force Design for the Marine Corps is not a 
future aim point. It is a reality and it is here today.
    A couple of examples. In the Pacific, in U.S. Indo-Pacific 
Command (INDOPACOM) Task Force 76.3, they were built to create 
advanced information sensing maritime awareness for Admiral 
Aquilino, which he desperately needs in the Pacific.
    They took what they learned during experimentation and they 
applied it in exercises. They turned kill webs--what they call 
kill webs into reality and they did it in the Philippines and 
they did it in Japan, right in China's backyard.
    In U.S. European Command (EUCOM) last fall Task Force 61.2, 
using some new technology and a different way of organizing, 
created both air and maritime domain awareness for the European 
commander and Sixth Fleet and they focus their efforts on the 
Russian air and naval activities, and marines, in fact, are in 
Estonia right now doing the same and they will be there for the 
next 4 months.
    In U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) General Kurilla has our 
Marine Corps MQ-9s. He needs ISR [intelligence, surveillance 
and reconnaissance]. He needs persistent ISR and that is what 
we are giving him in the key maritime terrain, and this month. 
In fact, while we are sitting here, the new Marine Littoral 
Regiment (MLR) out of Hawaii is in the Philippines, Third MLR. 
They are using new sensing capabilities and lethal capabilities 
in the Philippines and they are demonstrating that right 
alongside of our Philippine counterparts and other allies and 
partners in exercise Balikatan, and that is how it should be.
    A couple of months ago Japan announced that they would host 
the second--the next Marine Littoral Regiment forward. It would 
stay in Japan in the First Island chain, and that is exactly 
where I think you want Marine Corps presence.
    In short, your marines are forward. I think they are where 
it matters most and that is exactly how it has always been. 
Three years ago I described how the Marine Corps would not just 
modernize quickly but we would self-fund that effort. We would 
get leaner, lighter, more naval, and 3 years later your Marine 
Corps--your marines--have done just that and the results are in 
the field now.
    We are not waiting for 2027 or 2025. We are not waiting for 
2030. Your marines are ready to handle any crisis anywhere on 
the globe now, today.
    Our major divestments, which we had to do, they are done. 
We are at our fighting weight. Now we have to sustain our 
modernization efforts while we focus on the quality of life 
issues most important to marines and sailors and their 
families.
    People--as both the Secretary and the CNO [Chief of Naval 
Operations] have mentioned, people are the real source of our 
competitive advantage as a Nation, as the Marine Corps, and I 
ask for your help now to invest in their quality of life.
    We have to focus on where marines live, where they work, 
where they eat. marines and their families expect that from us. 
They have earned it and they deserve it and now we have to 
deliver.
    I think restoring, modernizing our infrastructure, which 
many of you all have spoken about, is directly tied to 
recruiting, directly tied to retention. That is how we support 
families. That is how we generate readiness.
    So on behalf of all marines, I ask for your support now as 
we bring our infrastructure up to par with the quality of 
marines and sailors who operate from those warfighting 
platforms.
    I also ask for your help, your support for the amphibious 
fleet. That is how we project power. The CNO and I agree on 
three key principles when it comes to the amphibious fleet.
    First, the absolute minimum number of amphibious warships 
the Nation needs is 31. That is the operational requirement 
minimum.
    Second, both of us agree block buys do two things. They 
save the taxpayer money and they give the industry what the CNO 
calls headlights, which they need.
    Third, divesting without replacing, I think, is a dangerous 
approach. That creates unacceptable risk. Amphibious ships are 
critical to crisis response. They are critical to deterrence. 
That is how we evacuated citizens out of Lebanon. That is how 
the United States made our initial entry into Afghanistan in 
2001. All from the sea.
    Today, we are asking them to do all that plus deterrence, 
plus integrated deterrence and campaigning, and my concern here 
is the first time this Nation cannot respond to a crisis and 
someone else does is the last time they trust us.
    So in my final year of Commandant I will just finish up by 
saying thank you. Thank you to the individual Members of this 
Committee. Thank you for your coaching and your mentoring and 
your guidance.
    With that, I look forward to your questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of General Berger follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General David H. Berger
                              introduction
    Chair, Ranking Member, and distinguished Members of the Committee, 
I am thankful for the opportunity to report the progress of your Marine 
Corps over the last year and seek your support in continuing to prepare 
the Service to face an increasingly uncertain and challenging future. I 
would be remiss, in my final year as Commandant, if I did not first 
acknowledge the unwavering support of this Committee over the last 3 
years. Simply put, the Marine Corps of today is a better fighting force 
because of your guidance, commitment, and resourcing decisions. But 
there is still much work to be done. A brief review of world events 
over the past few years tells us we are moving in the right direction, 
but we cannot slow down. In fact, we need to accelerate our efforts so 
your Marine Corps can effectively deter while remaining ready to 
immediately respond to any crisis, anywhere on the globe, at any time. 
The work of this Committee is crucial to the modernization of the 
Marine Corps into a force that will continue to do just that.
                                posture
    Today, more than 32,000 marines are forward-deployed or stationed 
across 50 countries. There are also, on average, 102 Marine Corps 
fixed-wing aircraft (F-35, F/A-18, and KC-130J) forward-deployed or 
stationed overseas, a 22 percent increase since 2018. This forward 
posture is a critical requirement for integrated deterrence and 
reinforces a national source of strategic advantage--our global network 
of allies and partners.
    Most Marine Forces west of the International Date Line are based in 
Japan. In January, the Government of Japan announced its intention to 
host the future 12th Marine Littoral Regiment (MLR). This unit will 
possess advanced intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) 
capabilities as well as long range precision fires capabilities, 
improving both maritime domain awareness and our ability to deter 
potential adversaries. When combined with the other stand-in force 
capabilities of III Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF), 12th MLR will 
provide a major lethality upgrade for the fleet and joint force in the 
Indo-Pacific.
    While our posture has become more robust in the Indo-Pacific, fewer 
of our forward-deployed marines are serving afloat with the fleet. In 
2018, 16,000 marines served aboard ships, but in 2022, just 12,660 did 
so--a 20 percent decrease. The principal reason for this decline was 
the lack of amphibious warfare ship availability. As directed by the 
Fiscal Year 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), 10 LHA/LHD 
and 21 LPDs are the bare minimum necessary for our amphibious fleet. 
Additionally, in my best military judgment, the Marine Corps needs a 
minimum of seven Amphibious Ready Group / Marine Expeditionary Units 
(ARG/MEU), three MLRs, and 35 Medium Landing Ships (LSM) to provide a 
strong forward posture for building partnerships in the littorals and 
to contribute to integrated deterrence.
                               resources
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for the Marine Corps is $53.2 
billion (B). To date, the Marine Corps has taken every possible 
opportunity to self-fund our modernization. This required hard choices 
and difficult, unpopular decisions. With the support of our civilian 
leadership in the Department of the Navy (DON), Department of Defense 
(DOD), and Congress, from Presidential Budget 2020 to Presidential 
Budget 2023 this approach succeeded. Over the last five program 
objective memorandum (POM) cycles, the Marine Corps divested $18.2 
billion across the Future Years Defense Program (FYDP) in structure and 
legacy platforms and systems and has reinvested $15.8 billion directly 
into modernization. The success of these divest-to-invest actions would 
not have been possible without the support of our civilian and 
congressional leadership.
    To be clear, the Marine Corps is now complete with our major 
divestments. Reducing the approved acquisition objectives (AAO) of 
major programs like the CH-53K or F-35 at this point would not produce 
resources for investment elsewhere and would be premature decisions. We 
approached fiscal year 2024 as a program review year. Limiting the 
introduction of new programs in fiscal year 2024 allows the Marine 
Corps to maintain or even accelerate progress on investments from 
preceding budget cycles that are directly tied to our pacing threat.
    The suggestion that we may have to choose between preparing to 
fight tonight--which your marines are fully prepared to do--and 
preparing for some distant point in the future presents a false 
dichotomy. Readiness, lethality, and modernization to meet future 
challenges are all required today. Our collective challenge is to 
balance the resource tension between the force we employ today and the 
development of the force to compete and win in the years to come.
                         warfighting readiness
    In many ways, Marine Corps readiness has improved since 2018. Our 
units have higher levels of persistent manning / staffing, more 
equipment and supplies, enhanced individualized training, and more 
collective training--much of it force-on-force. Our combat arms units 
are equipped with modern capabilities far superior to those of past 
formations. Yet, while many things have changed, the foundational 
elements have not. We remain the most elite infantry in the world, with 
the most proficient combined arms teams on the globe.
    While there have been substantive readiness improvements across the 
force, nowhere have these improvements been more visible than in Marine 
aviation. Across all type / model / series of aircraft, our mission 
capable rate has increased from 57 percent in 2018 to 66 percent in 
2023--an achievement that would not have been possible without 
congressional support and the herculean efforts of Marine aviation 
mechanics and maintenance crews. We anticipate further improvements to 
aviation readiness as we retire older airframes (e.g., F/A-18 and CH-
53E) and accelerate acquisition of newer platforms like the F-35B/C and 
CH-53K.
    In 2018, we employed a lethal, though primarily fourth generation, 
tactical air (TACAIR) force of 173 F/A-18C/D and 126 AV-8B, with 72 
fifth generation F-35B/Cs. Today, our TACAIR force is comprised of 174 
F-35B/C and 178 fourth generation aircraft--a major step forward. 
Despite the challenges associated with transitioning the force from 
fourth to fifth generation aircraft, the overall readiness of our 
TACAIR fleet increased from 56 percent in 2018 to 68 percent in 2023.
    We have also achieved significant gains in the readiness of our MV-
22 fleet, rising from 52 percent in 2018 to 64 percent in 2023. The 
current challenges surrounding a series of hard clutch engagements 
caused each of the Services to take immediate action to replace certain 
transmission components in our V-22 fleets. That action is ongoing, and 
we expect to see a rebound in readiness this spring and summer.
    Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV): The introduction of the ACV has 
the potential to greatly enhance our littoral mobility and 
expeditionary reach. However, as with all new systems and technologies, 
there have been a few notable challenges. At present, we are working 
with BAE Systems to address two major component issues--one with the 
struts / shock absorbers, and the other with the central tire inflation 
system. Both issues have caused part failures, resulting in a decrease 
in reliability and a corresponding decrease in readiness. We have also 
identified issues related to possible water incursion into the power 
train and are working with our industry partner to resolve those as 
well. In addition to these mechanical issues, we have experienced three 
incidents in the surf zone that resulted in vehicles rolling over. 
According to BAE Systems and confirmed by our safety investigations, 
these rollovers were caused by a lever effect generated when the 
vehicle becomes parallel to the surf-line and is struck by a large 
wave. These events were, in large part, the product of training 
shortfalls. We are actively working with BAE Systems to rectify all 
mechanical concerns and are enhancing the training regimen for our 
vehicle operators on this new and more sophisticated amphibious 
vehicle.
    F135 Engine: In both President's Budget 2022 and President's Budget 
2023, Congress enacted funding to support F135 engine modernization. In 
addition to this funding, the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) 
added significant resources for an engine core upgrade and for power 
and thermal management system (PTMS) modernization. We will continue to 
monitor the current F135 engine and F-35 PTMS's ability to support 
Block IV mission systems and will work with the Joint Program Office to 
ensure our requirements are being met.
    Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) Pilot Training: As an integral part 
of Force Design, we embarked along a path in late 2019 to double our 
uncrewed aircraft capacity across the force from three unmanned aerial 
vehicle squadrons (VMU) to six squadrons, while transitioning from the 
RQ-21 to the much more capable MQ-9. While our commitment to uncrewed 
systems is unshakeable, we have concluded the Air Force's capacity to 
generate trained MQ-9 UAS officers is insufficient to satisfy Marine 
Corps requirements. At present, half of our total inventory of UAS 
officers (72 of 148) are not yet trained and qualified to operate the 
MQ-9. We are working with the Air Force to remedy this throughput 
issue. However, there is a need to direct the necessary resources in 
future budgets to establish a Naval UAS School to resolve this larger 
joint force issue.
    Pilot Readiness Concerns: Service Chiefs are routinely asked about 
how the joint force can effectively compete against the Department's 
pacing challenge--the People's Republic of China (PRC)--or our acute 
threat--Russia. But there is a different competition that is more 
directly and more adversely impacting the joint force than that 
emanating from either Russia or China, and that is the unhealthy 
competition between the Services and the airline industry. As the head 
of personnel for the Air Force stated during testimony in 2017, we 
cannot compete with the airlines. We could not then and we cannot now. 
This is an issue that requires your oversight. We are at a competitive 
disadvantage and risk our reservoir of pilots drying up. As an example, 
in 2018, the Marine Corps had 88 of the 203 required F-35 pilots (43 
percent of the requirement). At the end of 2022, we had 218 of 498 F-35 
pilots (44 percent of the requirement). At the end of 2022, we had 200 
F-35 pilots in flight school and another 62 at our fleet replacement 
squadrons with fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024 completion dates. 
We are making some progress, but not enough--and certainly not quickly 
enough. We are exploring various options for structuring aviation 
bonuses and aviation incentive pay under the new authorities granted in 
the fiscal year 2023 NDAA. But ever-larger monetary incentives are 
neither sustainable nor the appropriate remedy. This is not just a 
Marine Corps problem. It is a joint force problem, and we will continue 
to work with the other services and Congress as our understanding of 
this issue develops.
                  force design and current operations
    There is a misperception by some that Force Design might create a 
gap in Marine Corps capabilities between divestment and fielding new 
capabilities. The reality is that fielding new capabilities associated 
with Force Design is already well underway. Many of these ``future'' 
capabilities tied to Force Design 2030 are already being employed by 
Marine forces today. Six examples from 2022 are illustrative:
    TF 61.2 and Reconnaissance and Counter-reconnaissance: In March 
2022, U.S. Sixth Fleet partnered with II MEF to create Task Force (TF) 
61.2. TF 61.2 was designed as a joint task force crisis response 
capability to command and control naval forces supporting contingencies 
in Europe and Africa. This force was delegated tactical control of 
amphibious forces (ARG/MEU) in theater, allocated Marine forces (Marine 
Rotational Force--Europe), and a task organized reconnaissance/counter-
reconnaissance force. Near simultaneously, II MEF and 2d Marine 
Division were tasked with ``accelerating experimentation with maritime, 
multi-domain reconnaissance constructs and activities to enhance the 
ability of the stand-in force to dominate the information environment, 
sense and make sense of the situation, and win the reconnaissance vs. 
counter-reconnaissance competition.'' Commander, Sixth Fleet, 
immediately volunteered TF 61.2 to support these broader Service 
experimentation efforts. During the next several weeks, TF 61.2 
conducted training aboard both the USS Woody Williams (ESB-4) and USS 
Georgia (SSGN-729) and engaged in combined-arms training in both Greece 
and Turkey. Those initial exercises demonstrated that maritime 
expeditionary forces could increase surface, subsurface, and aerial 
domain awareness for the fleet commander--regardless of theater--and 
allowed us to focus on the information web required to create domain 
awareness in a contested space. TF 61.2 then transitioned these 
experimental capabilities to the Baltics, where it participated in 
bilateral training on maritime domain awareness with the Estonian Navy 
in the Gulf of Finland. During this period, TF 61.2 participated in an 
amphibious landing in Estonia and Exercise BALTOPS with 16 North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) nations, utilizing 47 ships and 
7,000 personnel. This new organization has been so successful the 
previous Commander, U.S. European Command (EUCOM) chose to highlight 
the value of the task force during his spring 2022 annual testimony. 
The bottom line is that your marines' ability to conduct reconnaissance 
and counter-reconnaissance is a current force capability that directly 
contributes to competition and deterrence today.
    TF 76.3: Building upon the success of TF 61.2, in October 2022, the 
3d Marine Expeditionary Brigade and Naval Task Force 76 staffs merged 
into a completely integrated naval task force in the Indo-Pacific. Over 
the next several months, TF 76.3 experimented with naval concepts at 
sea and ashore via a broad campaign of learning labeled Noble Fusion 
22.2. TF 76.3 also participated in exercises Kamandang in the 
Philippines and Resolute Dragon in Japan. Once again, marines and 
sailors demonstrated the ability to create advanced information webs to 
support maritime domain awareness across the theater. Just as 
importantly, they demonstrated this capability to potential 
adversaries.
    USS Tripoli: The most recent deployment of the USS Tripoli (LHA-7) 
demonstrated the strategic and operational advantage that amphibious 
warfare ships create today. In early 2022, Tripoli set sail as an 
independent deployment, in part to test our F-35B ``Lightning Carrier / 
Assault Carrier'' concept by which 16-24 F-35Bs were embarked and 
operated in concert with a traditional carrier strike group. During 
Tripoli's time in the Indo-Pacific, embarked marines and sailors 
trained with and supported the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN-72) and USS 
Ronald Reagan (CVN-76), among other traditional surface combatants. Not 
only did the deployment illustrate the potency of the Lightning Carrier 
concept in support of carrier strike group operations, it also 
demonstrated the versatility and value of the platform for the 
integrated Navy-Marine Corps team. During Exercise Valiant Shield 2022, 
the Commander of U.S. Seventh Fleet, Vice Admiral (VADM) Karl Thomas, 
embarked his staff aboard the Tripoli and used it as his command 
platform for 15 days--a strong endorsement of the platform's importance 
within the larger fleet. VADM Thomas noted, ``One day you can have F-
35Bs on the flight deck, the next day you could have MV-22s and you can 
be putting marines ashore . . . it just is a very versatile instrument 
. . . [with] 14 5th-gen fighters on board--it's an incredibly capable 
sensor.''
    The LHA's size, which closely mirrors the amphibious warfare ships 
of our allies, makes it an attractive partnership and learning 
platform. During their deployment, marines and sailors from Tripoli and 
the 31st MEU trained with forces from Japan, Australia, the 
Philippines, and Singapore.
    Multifunction Air Operations Center (MAOC): In March 2022, 2d 
Marine Aircraft Wing (MAW) conducted the Service's first operational 
deployment of a multi-function air operations center (MAOC). In 
Lithuania, under the command of U.S. Air Forces Europe, the MAOC 
conducted air surveillance and multi-domain awareness in support of 
NATO operations. This is not simply an evolutionary step in fixed 
aviation command and control (C2) nodes, but rather, a 
transformational, expeditionary capability that can serve as a hub for 
Marine Corps, naval, and joint kill chains and webs. The MAOC provides 
the Marine Corps with the capability to control aircraft and missiles 
and enables decision superiority. It also offers the ability to gain 
and maintain custody of adversary targets and hold those targets at 
risk via fires with its organic TPS-80 Ground/Air Task-Oriented Radar 
(G/ATOR), Common Aviation Command and Control System (CAC2S), and 
highly proficient aviation C2 marines. The MAOC is scalable by task-
organized units, small enough to support distributed teams or large 
enough to support a multi-MEF or Corps-level fight. This agency 
construct is also the model we are using for the development of all-
domain C2. 3d MAW is now leading the Service's MAOC experimentation 
efforts and employed this capability as part of Marine Rotational 
Force--Darwin (MRF-D), integrating C2 and sensor services for 16 allied 
and partner nations during Exercise PITCH BLACK. From these initial 
efforts, 3d MAW has matured the MAOC, creating a persistent hub to 
enhance the common tactical picture for I and III MEF. Recent 
experiments in February 2023, which included U.S. Indo-Pacific Command 
(USINDOPACOM), have further demonstrated the MAOC's ability to 
integrate additional capabilities from the MEF Information Group and 
improve the common tactical picture for a carrier strike group, and is 
visible evidence of Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2) in 
practice.
    Marine Corps Information Command (MCIC): In October 2022, we 
streamlined and simplified much of the coordination required for space 
and cyberspace operations at the headquarters level, by realigning 
current relationships and structure at Headquarters, Marine Corps 
(HQMC) from a staff officer to an operational commander, to create the 
MCIC. The MCIC is a service-retained command designed to integrate 
global Marine Corps capabilities in information, intelligence, 
cyberspace, and space to support Fleet Marine Forces (FMF) resulting in 
decision advantage. This two-star command operates under Marine Forces 
Command (MARFORCOM) and provides critical linkages across operational 
level planning. It also provides task organized detachments to support 
the FMF commander's campaigning objectives. This allows the commander 
to leverage the authorities needed to synchronize global cyber, space, 
influence, and intelligence effects and generate multi-domain 
advantages in support of the commander's objectives. The MCIC achieved 
initial operational capability (IOC) in January 2023.
    VMGR-153 and HMH-461: In January 2023, we activated Marine Aerial 
Refueler Transport Squadron 153 (VMGR-153) in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. By 
2026, VMGR-153 will bring 15 KC-130J aircraft to the region, building 
on the organic mobility available to marines responding to crisis or 
conflict in the region. We are also approaching 1 year since the CH-53K 
program achieved IOC and are well underway transitioning Marine Heavy 
Helicopter Squadron 461 (HMH-461) into our first fully operational CH-
53K squadron. Despite their ongoing transition, HMH-461 is already 
demonstrating the significant impact of this new capability, conducting 
heavy lift assault support missions previously impossible with legacy 
aircraft. In parallel, the operational test and evaluation squadron 
(VMX-1) continues to push the boundaries of heavy lift operations. Last 
December, they successfully lifted an F-35C, demonstrating the 
platform's utility in conducting next generation tactical recovery 
missions.
            force design and the ground combat element (gce)
    Infantry Battalion Experiment (IBX): IBX is an ongoing Service-
level initiative designed to evaluate the future infantry battalion's 
ability to conduct expeditionary, offensive, and defensive operations 
as an element of a MEU, MLR, or infantry regiment in support of fleet 
and joint operations. The results of IBX live-force experimentation 
represent a critical component of our campaign of learning and are one 
of several inputs informing our ongoing assessment of the future 
infantry battalion.
    After 24 months of experimentations and force-on-force exercises 
with three infantry battalions, our combat developers, division 
commanders, and MEF commanders recommended an 811-person infantry 
battalion. This new battalion demonstrated improved C2, sensing, and 
lethality. Importantly, this recommendation reflects the value of our 
campaign of learning. In 2019, we experimented with a 735-person 
battalion. But force-on-force experimentation made clear our initial 
assumptions were off. It also demonstrated a need for additional ground 
ISR and indirect fires capacity. In line with these findings, we right-
sized personnel, added back indirect fires capacity, and added organic 
UAS platforms and personnel to improve surveillance and target 
acquisition. Future infantry battalions will possess Block IV Javelins 
at the company-level to increase anti-armor capability and will have 
loitering munitions (organic precision fires (OPF)) at the squad and 
platoon levels to increase lethality, enhance maneuver, and facilitate 
distributed operations. They will have additional communications, 
logistics, and intelligence capabilities at the company-level, and new 
signals intelligence and electromagnetic warfare capabilities at both 
the battalion and company levels. They will possess vehicle-mounted and 
canister-launched OPF at the company and battalion level to enhance the 
lethality, multi-domain awareness, and reach of those units, and will 
have improved C2 systems at the company-level. But our learning never 
stops. We will build from past efforts and conduct another round of 
experiments with two additional battalions this year. These experiments 
will evaluate the new infantry battalion design against a peer 
adversary, with the aim of further refining its structure and 
capabilities to the demands of the modern battlefield. We will also 
begin incorporating our lessons learned into FMF battalions not 
directly involved in IBX later this year.
    Close Combat Lethality: In 2018, former Secretary of Defense James 
Mattis convened the Close Combat Lethality Task Force (CCLTF). As we 
approach 5 years since that effort was launched, we should take stock 
of its significant impact. The CCLTF's insights have been instrumental 
in informing the ongoing transformation within our infantry formations, 
the most visible of which being the success of the Multi-purpose Anti-
armor Anti-personnel Weapon System (MAAWS). It provides a multiple-
effects rocket system to infantry and combat engineer squads to 
increase firepower and enhance their ability to close with and destroy 
the enemy. The MAAWS is a medium-range, multi-purpose, man-portable, 
line-of-sight, reloadable, recoilless, day/night, anti-armor, and anti-
personnel weapon system with an available suite of 84mm rockets. MAAWS 
munitions will be capable of obscuration, illumination, personnel 
denial, armored vehicle denial and penetration, bunker and hardened 
facility penetration, and soft target destruction capabilities. Every 
rifle squad, combat engineer squad, and Marine Special Operations 
Command (MARSOC) team will be equipped with one MAAWS. Fielding began 
in the 3d quarter (3Q) of fiscal year 2021 and will be complete in 3d 
quarter of fiscal year 2025.
    The Marine Corps has also fielded lightweight body armor including 
a new plate carrier (PC Gen 3), and an enhanced combat helmet--all of 
which address the significant weight of the individual marine's combat 
load so well documented from operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 
addition, new night vision devices (AN/PVS-31A) have enhanced night 
movement and weapons lethality for our infantry, improving their 
situational awareness and ability to acquire targets. The MAAWS, Squad 
Common Optic, M27 squad automatic rifle, M17 pistol, and Mk13 and Mk22 
precision rifles have all increased organic lethality within our small 
units. Multi-domain sensing and targeting is being addressed with a new 
signals intelligence / electromagnetic warfare (SI/EW) program called 
Marine Electromagnetic Ground Family of Systems (MEGFoS). This SI/EW 
suite of equipment, crewed by dedicated SI/EW and cyberspace personnel, 
will be employed in the future infantry battalion, greatly enhancing 
tactical level target identification and engagement. All these 
capability enhancements make our squads and platoons more lethal.
    3d MLR and 12th MLR: On 3 March 2022, we activated 3d MLR and it is 
on track to achieve IOC this year. 3d MLR has an established littoral 
combat team (LCT), combat logistics battalion (CLB), and littoral anti-
air battalion (LAAB), all of which have been exercising in operations, 
activities, and investment events in the Indo-Pacific region. 3d MLR 
continues to operate in coordination with the Naval Surface Group 
Middle Pacific (NAVSURFGRU MIDPAC) to further develop its maritime 
fires capabilities, and most recently, deployed to Marine Air-Ground 
Task Force--Training Command (MAGTF-TC) to execute the first Service-
level MLR training exercise. This exercise focused on the MLR's ability 
to sense and make sense of the operating environment and rapidly close 
kill chains. 3d MLR is designed to be a stand-in force, but it is not 
the Service's sole stand-in force. Rather, it is one part of the larger 
III MEF system of stand-in forces that includes our forward deployed 
naval force, as well as other expeditionary capabilities including the 
F-35B/C.
    We are on track to activate 12th MLR by 2025. The Government of 
Japan and Secretary Austin recently announced that 12th MLR will be 
forward stationed on Okinawa to create greater maritime domain 
awareness and enhance our collective ability to deter in the region. As 
Secretary Austin stated during the announcement, ``We will equip this 
new formation with advanced intelligence, surveillance, and 
reconnaissance, as well as anti-ship and transportation capabilities 
that are relevant to the current and future threat environments.'' 12th 
MLR's presence and capability suite will augment our existing stand-in 
force capacity in the first island chain.
    These littoral regiments provide the joint force two essential 
capabilities. First, they serve as eyes and ears of the joint force--
meaning their persistent, forward, and distributed posture enables the 
joint force to reach well inside of weapons engagement zones. Second, 
they provide decision space and time for the other joint forces to 
deploy, while maintaining continuous maritime domain awareness.
                   force design emerging capabilities
    In addition to current operations that demonstrate Force Design in 
action today, a number of emerging capabilities on the horizon will 
increase the Marine Corps' ability to enable full-spectrum operations 
for the Joint Force in contested environments.
    Unmanned Logistics System-Aerial (ULS-A): As the ongoing conflict 
in Ukraine has illustrated, even traditional ground resupply, executed 
over interior lines and relatively short distances, can be disrupted 
with operational level effects. Consistent with these lessons, the 
Marine Corps is developing the ULS-A Small or Tactical Resupply 
Unmanned Aircraft System (TRUAS). The TRUAS has a 9-mile range and 
maximum payload of 150 pounds, which is sufficient to fly in 
ammunition, food, medical supplies, and batteries, among other 
supplies. This small system only requires two marines to operate and 
will be a game-changing capability for our distributed forces. The 
TRUAS is anticipated to achieve IOC in 2023 with fielding completed in 
2027. Fielding this capability is critical toward setting conditions 
for the development of the ULS-A Medium system, which is the required 
capability for large-scale tactical distribution in a contested space. 
The emerging ULS-A Medium will be fielded in 2025 and will provide 
payloads between 300 and 600 pounds with a range of up to 100 miles.
    Marine Air Defense Integrated System (MADIS): MADIS is an 
expeditionary, upgradable, and state-of-the-art capability to protect 
maneuver forces, installations, and other designated critical assets 
from fixed / rotary wing (FW/RW) aircraft and Group 1-3 UAS. It uses 
sensor-integrated C2 to provide beyond line-of-sight cueing, targeting, 
and engagement. Current air defense capabilities only defend against 
FW/RW targets and Group 3 UAS within line of sight. The MADIS is 
composed of a complementary pair of Joint Light Tactical Vehicles 
(JLTV). The Mk1 JLTV is designed to kill FW/RW variants with a turret-
mounted 30mm cannon, Stinger missiles, and an electromagnetic warfare 
(EW) jammer. The Mk 2 JLTV provides redundant, non-kinetic and kinetic 
fires while primarily employing C2 software and sensors to collect, 
interpret, and pass radar tracks to the Mk 1 via a wireless local 
network for target engagements. The AAO is 131 systems comprised of 262 
vehicles; the fiscal year 2024 budget request provides for 13 MADIS (26 
vehicles). We will achieve IOC in 4th quarter fiscal year 2024 with the 
delivery of 17 systems, and we anticipate reaching full operational 
capability (FOC) in fiscal year 2031. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
request for the MADIS family of systems is $265 million (M).
    Medium Range Intercept Capability (MRIC): The MRIC defends forward-
deployed forces against the threat of cruise missiles and other aerial 
threats with similar flight profiles. This is accomplished through the 
integration of already-fielded Marine Corps and Israeli systems that 
include CAC2S, the TPS-80 G/ATOR, the Iron Dome Battle Management 
Controller, and the Tamir missile and guidance uplink. Each MEF will be 
fielded with one MRIC battery. A battery is comprised of a headquarters 
element and four independently deployable firing platoons. To date, 
there have been four successful live fire events: August 2019, November 
to December 2021, April to June 2022, and September 2022. Each live 
fire successfully demonstrated the destruction of multiple 
operationally challenging missile threats. The Service's fiscal year 
2024 budget request is for $44 million.
    Navy-Marine Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS): The 
Marine Corps is transitioning the majority of its existing lightweight 
155mm towed artillery batteries into medium-range missile (MMSL) 
batteries equipped with NMESIS to conduct anti-surface warfare 
operations as a component of an integrated naval force. By 2030, the 
Marine Corps will have 14 MMSL batteries: three batteries forward 
deployed in support of MLRs and 11 continental U.S. (CONUS)-based 
batteries supporting the rotational and MEU deployments. The program 
will enter low-rate initial production (LRIP) in 3d quarter fiscal year 
2023. The first six operational launchers will be fielded to MMSL 
Battery, 3d MLR in 4th quarter fiscal year 2023 to give the Service its 
first capability to contribute to sea denial and sea control operations 
with ground based anti-ship missile (GBASM) fires. We anticipate 
reaching IOC in fiscal year 2025 after fielding five MMSL batteries and 
a MMSL battalion headquarters. We anticipate reaching FOC in fiscal 
year 2030 when all 14 MMSL batteries have been fielded. The Service's 
fiscal year 2024 budget request for $402 million supports procurement 
of 24 NMESIS launchers and associated equipment, and 90 Naval Strike 
Missiles (NSM) keeping the program on track to reach 774 NSM. The 774 
NSMs provide one combat load plus one combat load resupply per deployed 
MMSL unit.
    Long-Range Fires (LRF): OSD directed the Marine Corps to develop 
and field a ground-launched Tomahawk Land Attack Missile (TLAM) 
capability to support joint force long range, precision fires 
requirements. The LRF weapons system is composed of a Remotely Operated 
Ground Unit for Expeditionary (ROGUE) Fires leader kit, LRF launcher, 
LRF C2 System (LC2S), and LRF Reload and Resupply System (LRRS). All 
four components are required to complete a full mission of loading, 
transporting, and firing a Tomahawk missile. This capability leverages 
existing Navy and Marine Corps hardware and software such as the Mk41 
Vertical Launch System, Tactical Tomahawk Weapon Control System, 
Tomahawk cruise missile, and JLTV to reduce risk by accelerating 
capability delivery to the FMF and combatant commanders. The current 
plan is to establish three 16-launcher, long range missile (LMSL) 
batteries to form one LMSL battalion capable of deploying one battery 
at a time by 2030. The first four operational launchers are scheduled 
to be fielded during 4th quarter fiscal year 2024. Remaining batteries 
are planned for activation between fiscal year 2026 and fiscal year 
2028. OSD provided $1.2 billion in research, development, testing, and 
evaluation (RDT&E) and Procurement Marine Corps (PMC) funding through 
fiscal year 2026 to support the development and procurement of 56 LRF 
launchers, C2 and support equipment, and 152 Tomahawk (TLAM and MST) 
missiles. The fiscal year 2024 budget request for LRF is $142 million.
            research, development, test & evaluation (rdt&e)
    This year, we will invest heavily in the next generation of RDT&E 
efforts. We are placing an emphasis on the future of marine aviation, 
JADC2, persistent sensing, and contested logistics, while expanding our 
experimentation efforts. With the support of the Office of the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Research and Engineering's Joint Capability 
Technology Demonstration office, we will begin the Long-Range Attack 
Munition (LRAM) project, to rapidly develop and field a low-cost, air 
launched, family of loitering and swarming munitions. The LRAM can be 
employed by not just H-1s and F-35s, but also palletized and employed 
from MV-22s, CH-53Ks, and C-130's, thereby significantly expanding our 
magazine depth. Likewise, we have moved out in earnest on 
experimentation with our capstone research and development effort, the 
family of integrated targeting cells (FITC). FITC accelerates the 
evolution of combined arms to a new level. It fuses operations, 
intelligence, and fires functions together in one center and creates 
the means by which the Marine Corps will be able to participate in and 
control joint fires, while also gaining and maintaining persistent 
custody of adversary targets. We will also expand our ground launched 
loitering munitions capabilities by demonstrating a common launcher for 
the family of munitions, and we continue testing a low-cost, hypersonic 
booster that will be in a form factor the Marine Corps can logistically 
support in a contested environment. For maritime mobility, we are also 
investing in our first Stern Landing Vessel (SLV) prototypes, which are 
helping buy down risk and advance the Medium Landing Ship (LSM) 
program. We will continue efforts to develop a medium-sized, uncrewed 
logistics aircraft and will begin small boat experimentation to 
determine the future of our surface reconnaissance capabilities.
     force design experimentation in support of contested logistics
    The Marine Corps Warfighting Laboratory, in close collaboration 
with both the Navy and III MEF, is currently experimenting with more 
than a dozen new technologies and potential future capabilities focused 
on enabling logistics in a contested environment. These operational 
experiments include well-known capabilities such as the SLV and wing-
in-ground-effect (WIG) craft, as well as lesser-known, emerging 
capabilities such as the autonomous low-profile vessel (ALPV). Based on 
our existing experimentation plans, operational experimentation with 
these and other capabilities will continue over the next 3 years and 
inform future capability investment decisions.
          force design experimentation with littoral mobility
    Mobility is a key characteristic to the dispersion and persistence 
of stand-in forces. In the case of the Indo-Pacific, littoral mobility 
will be essential to our ability to maneuver through the complex 
geography of the region. We recognized this capability gap early in the 
design process and identified the LSM as a mechanism to transport 
marines in this unique maritime environment.
    Medium Landing Ship (LSM): Distinct, yet complementary to 
traditional L-Class amphibious warfare ships, the LSM is purpose-built 
to provide tactical maneuver for regimental sized units, forward-
deployed naval forces, and other expeditionary advanced base-enabling 
forces operating within contested environments. The LSM is a maneuver 
asset, and as a shore-to-shore connector, is unique and critical to 
expeditionary littoral mobility. It will facilitate campaigning and 
support diverse missions such as security cooperation, humanitarian 
assistance / disaster relief (HA/DR), and logistics support. While not 
optimized for any one threat or region, we envision the LSM being of 
particular utility in the maritime gray zone contests omnipresent in 
the Indo-Pacific. Given its size and characteristics, this vessel could 
be employed with a lower risk of escalation than larger platforms.
    After extensive research and wargaming, we calculated a need for 
nine LSMs to support a single regimental sized unit. The DON's 
Amphibious Force Requirements Study over the last 2 years validated 
this number, articulating a requirement of no fewer than 18 LSMs to 
support littoral maneuver. Given that current force structure plans 
call for three MLRs, we require 35 LSMs to account for operational 
availability and mobility for those units. We anticipate an initial 
request for 18 of the 35 LSMs we seek will be a step toward enabling us 
to more effectively counter adversaries' strategies, support and 
reinforce alliances and partnerships, and do so at a relatively low 
cost.
    Despite focusing our efforts over the past 3 years on deterring, 
competing, and if necessary, contesting the pacing challenge, the 
Marine Corps will not fully realize the capabilities of the MLR until 
we have the littoral mobility assets that enable these forces. The 
decision to delay LSM procurement from fiscal year 2022 to fiscal year 
2025 was a setback in our ability to bring this capability online 
within an operationally relevant timeframe. As marines do best, we have 
adapted to this challenge and are developing bridging solutions to 
experiment with LCU-1700's and leased Expeditionary Fast Transports (T-
EPF) and SLVs. While these platforms will inform the eventual 
employment of the LSM, they will fall short of desired capabilities if 
called upon in an operational setting. Our modernized expeditionary 
forces need a comparably modern mobility platform to bring the full 
weight of their capability to bear on competitors or adversaries, 
particularly in littoral regions.
                   force design campaign of learning
    Marine Corps Wargaming and Analysis Center (MCWAC): Wargames play 
an essential role in concept development and operational planning and 
provide the basis for informed decisionmaking. The Marine Corps is 
undergoing a shift from human-driven to technology-enabled processes 
that will provide disproportionate benefits--not only to the Service, 
but the joint force writ large.
    Upon completion in 2024, the MCWAC in Quantico will provide a 
state-of-the-art facility designed to help decisionmakers better 
visualize the threat environment, gain competitive advantages over 
adversaries, and simulate future operating environments. It will also 
provide data that informs force development, force management, and 
system functionality. Simulations will support existing and developing 
weapons platforms and capabilities in all regions of the globe.
    MCWAC will incorporate elements of artificial intelligence and 
machine learning to amplify decision accuracy on issues that determine 
the way we organize, train, and equip for the future fight. This 
facility will also provide a critical asset to the joint force and 
senior leadership currently unavailable in the National Capital Region. 
Its location facilitates participation by joint, interagency, and 
multinational organizations, in addition to Service-specific analysis.
    Lessons Learned: Between July 2019 and December 2022, we executed 
25 wargames. This calendar year, we will conduct another 9 wargames and 
welcome the participation of any Member, or their staff, interested in 
observing. These wargames will primarily focus on two subjects: (1) 
reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance, and (2) III MEF deployment 
and sustainment during major combat operations.
    One of the persistent lessons from our wargames is that our current 
logistics concepts and capabilities are not optimized for maritime 
campaigns in a contested environment. Improving joint and combined 
logistics integration, and streamlining logistics C2, are critical 
areas for further planning and development. The number and capabilities 
of current logistics distribution platforms are insufficient to 
adequately deploy, maneuver, and sustain stand-in forces. Due to 
geographical distribution of forces, all Services will be challenged to 
meet their sustainment requirements. This suggests the Marine Corps 
will have reduced access to connecters under the operational control of 
the other Services.
    Our learning is continuous, and we have already refined some of our 
initial Force Design decisions based on that learning. For example, 
when we initially reduced the number of cannon batteries, we assumed 
that the existing 6-gun per battery model would be sufficient to meet 
requirements. After additional study, we decided to expand those 
batteries back to their original, pre-2015, 8-gun structure and added 
back two batteries. Next, we initially assessed 10-plane fighter-attack 
squadrons (VMFA) as the operationally suitable and sustainable approach 
for the future force. After multiple studies, a series of experiments 
and wargames, and emergent capabilities development, we know the 10-
plane model requires redress and are undertaking that effort now. 
Likewise, initial assessments of our heavy-lift helicopter capacity 
demonstrated we could cut several squadrons; yet real-world 
considerations have resulted in a modification to our original plans 
and restoration of some of that structure and capacity.
                        amphibious warfare ships
    Achieving the priorities of the National Defense Strategy requires 
a Navy that creates advantage for the joint force across the 
competition continuum. Sustaining and recapitalizing our nuclear 
deterrent and nuclear command, control, and communications systems; 
enhancing and expanding our undersea advantage; and creating advanced 
naval expeditionary forces that consist of all classes of ships and are 
capable of persisting and prevailing against any threat, are all things 
we must do now. We cannot create and sustain this force on the time 
horizons necessary to achieve competition and deterrence objectives 
without a significant expansion of our defense industrial base, which 
is currently organized for peacetime efficiency. We are a maritime 
nation that requires naval forces capable of answering the Nation's 
call, whenever or wherever that might be. Amphibious warfare ships are, 
and will continue to be, a critical component of the Nation's fleet. 
They provide an essential capability to the joint force that cannot be 
overstated. As the amphibious fleet requirement authority, as 
designated in the Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA, it is my obligation to ensure 
this Committee is aware of the current status of your amphibious fleet.
    Secretary of the Navy Amphibious Ship Studies: Since 2019, three 
DON studies have examined amphibious warfare ship force structure 
requirements. Combining the findings of those studies with amphibious 
warfare ship readiness trends over the past 10 years and projected ship 
availability rates, I conclude that the Nation requires no fewer than 
31 traditional amphibious warfare ships (10 LHA/LHD and 21 LPDs/LSDs) 
to ensure the warfighting readiness and responsiveness of amphibious 
naval forces.
    The Importance of Amphibious Warfare Ships and the ARG/MEU: Our 
Nation's amphibious warfare ships enable marines to execute three 
essential missions in support of the National Defense Strategy. First, 
unlike traditional surface combatants whose role is to sink enemy 
surface combatants and submarines or destroy enemy aircraft and 
missiles, amphibious warfare ships are meant to project the national 
power of the United States globally as both a warning to our 
adversaries and as a visible sign of our commitment to allies and 
partners. Our defense strategy clearly identifies those allies and 
partners as a source of our strategic advantage. As Secretary Austin 
has previously stated, we ``need resources matched to strategy, 
strategy matched to policy, and policy matched to the will of the 
American people.'' Our strategic aims are clear: we must deter any act 
or activity intended to disrupt the rules-based international order. 
Our strategy is to not fight unless necessary; we seek only to deter 
conflict. Effective integrated deterrence requires amphibious warfare 
ships. More so than any other Marine Corps operation, activity, or 
investment, amphibious warfare ships with embarked marines provide a 
flexible, scalable, and visible capability for our combatant commanders 
to employ at the time and place of their choosing in support of 
integrated deterrence campaigning.
    Second, amphibious warfare ships enable marines to immediately 
respond to crisis or contingency. When the Japanese nuclear reactor in 
Fukushima was damaged by an earthquake in 2011, an amphibious Task 
Force responded immediately. Non-combatant evacuations in Lebanon, the 
response to Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, the rescue of downed U.S. 
aircrew in contested areas, and numerous other situations around the 
world have all required an amphibious response, either due to lack of 
inland access or a determination that a large U.S. military footprint 
ashore would exacerbate an already dire situation.
    Third, amphibious warfare ships and their embarked marines ensure 
the President and his Ambassadors, as well as all U.S. citizens living 
outside the United States, have the on-call crisis response protection 
required to ensure their safety. Whether in Haiti, Venezuela, South 
Sudan, Yemen, Eswatini, or anywhere else on the globe, MEUs are ready 
to respond and protect. We must maintain forward-deployed ARG/MEUs with 
the operational reach to rapidly respond to our highest threat 
consulates and embassies globally. Marines forward-deployed aboard 
ships are the operationally desirable solution.
    Lastly, the 31 combined amphibious warfare ships are vital 
components of our Nation's seven ARG/MEUs. This number of ships allows 
the Nation to maintain at least two ARG/MEUs at sea, with the option to 
surge to five. Assuming our present trajectory, we will fall below the 
congressionally mandated floor of 31 amphibious warfare ships. From my 
perspective, this is a result of divesting these platforms faster than 
we are procuring their replacements. The result of not meeting this 
requirement became most acutely visible when we were unable to provide 
traditional disaster-relief response following the earthquake in Turkey 
earlier this year. Our ARG/MEU deployments are a visible sign of 
commitment to our allies and partners and provide evidence to the PRC 
of our readiness to contest any malign activities. They also provide a 
visible sign to Russia about our commitment to NATO. In fact, when the 
Prime Minister and Minister of Defense for Sweden wanted to send a 
clear signal to Russia regarding Sweden's intention to join NATO, they 
did so by making a statement on the flight deck of the USS Kearsarge--a 
Wasp-class amphibious assault ship.
    LPD Flight II Program: The PRC is accelerating their production of 
amphibious warfare ships. We cannot overlook the fact that since 2019, 
the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has launched three Type 075 
``LHA-like'' and three Type 071 ``LPD-like'' amphibious warfare ships. 
The PLAN intends to launch an additional five Type 075 ''LHA-like'' 
amphibious warfare ships in the next 5 years. It appears that the PLAN 
sees amphibious warfare ships as highly relevant and a critical 
instrument in power projection as evidenced by their recent deployments 
extending beyond the South China Sea. In my opinion, there is also a 
soft power component to our amphibious warfare ships that cannot be 
replaced by other platforms. It is obvious the PRC is learning this 
lesson and is pursuing their own amphibious warfare ship program as a 
competitive act.
    Next, an LPD's or any other amphibious warfare ship's vulnerability 
to an anti-ship missile is no more relevant to its value than an 
aircraft's vulnerability to being shot down is relevant to its value. 
Over 5,000 helicopters were destroyed during the Vietnam War, yet we do 
not hear persistent arguments related to their survivability. In a 
recent series of wargames held by the Center for Strategic and 
International Studies, 2 carriers and 10--20 destroyers and cruisers 
were sunk in the Pacific during each of the 24 iterations. Just as 
these wargames do not signal the irrelevance of these surface warships, 
conjecture about the survivability of amphibious warfare ships does not 
either. Instead of focusing exclusively on the survivability of 
platforms in a high-end fight, we should instead seek an appropriate 
balance of capabilities needed to effectively campaign and maintain 
deterrence with those capabilities optimized for major war. As 
evidenced by constant year cost, the LPD Flight II is the most 
effective and affordable answer until a follow-on amphibious warfare 
ship is developed.
                 force design and marine forces reserve
    The Marine Innovation Unit (MIU), manned by Marine Reservists, was 
recently established aboard Stewart Air National Guard Base in New 
York. This cutting-edge unit will make considerable contributions by 
focusing marine talent toward accelerated identification and adoption 
of advanced capabilities, transforming naval service capacity for 
technology employment, and retaining and investing in human capital. 
MIU is expanding Marine Corps reach into the wider innovation ecosystem 
and developing key partnerships with the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), 
NavalX, Army Futures Command, and others to increase tempo and progress 
toward Force Design objectives.
    The MIU is just the beginning. We continue to explore the efficacy 
of establishing a maritime reconnaissance capability within our Reserve 
component (RC) as part of our larger multi-domain reconnaissance 
initiatives across the force. We are currently evaluating the potential 
to establish a reserve MQ-9 squadron, as well as Reserve augmentation 
detachments with Active Duty squadrons.
    In addition to its role supporting Force Design, Marine Forces 
Reserve (MARFORRES) continues to function as both an operational and 
strategic Reserve to augment and reinforce the Active component (AC). 
In 2022, more than 1,100 marines and sailors activated to support 
Operation ALLIES WELCOME (OAW), honing their security and humanitarian 
relief skills. From that activation, 103 marines volunteered to deploy 
to OAW-Kosovo aboard Camp Bondsteel. Finally, as the Service brought 
new capabilities online during fiscal year 2022, MARFORRES provided 
High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (HIMARS) and Amphibious Assault 
Vehicle (AAV) rotations in support of USINDOPACOM requirements. This 
augmentation enabled the AC to execute Force Design experimentation and 
unit transitions without an impact on combatant commands. The Marine 
Corps' continued employment of the RC demonstrates our total force 
approach and has proven to be a critical component of force 
modernization efforts.
           force design and marine special operations forces
    As part of the larger Force Design effort, our marine special 
operations forces are modernizing through their Next Generation Raider 
Force (NGRF) initiative. The NGRF is intended to implement the 
strategic shaping and reconnaissance (SSR) operating concept, and its 
two major sub-components--irregular warfare and special reconnaissance, 
both focused in the littoral regions of the globe. In a manner 
consistent with other marine forces, MARSOC seeks to provide the joint 
force with the capability to shape the operating environment; 
illuminate adversary actions, activities, and intentions; and provide 
options to impose cost, both kinetically and non-kinetically, from 
competition to conflict.
                           talent management
    Talent Management 2030 (TM2030) directed accelerated personnel 
reforms and oriented the Service toward retaining more experienced 
marines. In February 2022, I directed the Assistant Commandant of the 
Marine Corps to form a Talent Management Strategy Group to align and 
harmonize Service-wide talent management efforts. This group focuses on 
future demographics, economic, and human capital trends, while working 
with academia, research organizations, pertinent departments in HQMC, 
and commanders in the FMF to identify initiatives that will better 
align individual abilities, skills, and desires with the warfighting 
needs of the Service. Since the release of TM2030, we have better 
aligned departments and organizations involved in talent management, 
assessed, and mapped out interdependencies of total force personnel 
policies, and begun to generate momentum with a sense of urgency. 
Leveraging authorities previously enabled by Congress, we enacted nine 
initiatives in 2022, which we will expand and accelerate in 2023:
    Commandant's Retention Program (CRP): During fiscal year 2023, the 
CRP offered pre-approved reenlistments to top-performing marines by 
streamlining the process and giving priority access to primary military 
occupational specialty (MOS) monitors for duty station and assignment 
options. The CRP resulted in a 72 percent increase of first-term 
reenlistment submissions by top-performing marines with the average 
reenlistment approval accomplished in 24 to 48 hours, much quicker than 
the previous norm. Going forward we will expand the program to more 
first-term marines as well as our career force.
    Staff Non-Commissioned Officer (SNCO) Promotion Board Realignment: 
Beginning in fiscal year 2024, we are realigning SNCO promotion boards 
to sequence more effectively with the assignments and reenlistment 
processes. This initiative will reduce SNCO billet gaps in the FMF and 
decrease the processing time of reenlistment packages. The realignment 
will provide greater predictability for SNCOs and their families while 
dramatically reducing the number of permanent change of station (PCS) 
moves across the force.
    Recruiting Station Commanding Officer Selection Board: We 
implemented two initiatives for the fiscal year 2023 Recruiting Station 
Commanding Officer (RSCO) selection board. First, officers now have the 
opportunity to volunteer for command, including officers otherwise not 
scheduled for consideration. Second, officers may also request removal 
from RSCO consideration for 1 year, without penalty, should they prefer 
to complete a deployment or other professional obligation, or due to a 
personal life circumstance.
    Special Duty Assignment (SDA) Volunteer Program: Prior to 2022, we 
screened and selected marines for Special Duty Assignments en masse. 
But last year, we launched a pilot SDA volunteer program, expanding 
incentives to provide duty station preference for volunteer recruiters, 
drill instructors, and combat instructors. As a result, volunteers 
increased by 62 percent, reducing the number of involuntarily screened 
marines by 38 percent. This minimized disruption to our marines, their 
families, and FMF units while also reducing SDA school attrition. We 
will improve and expand this program in 2023.
    MarineView 360-Degree Leadership Review: MarineView360 is a 
development tool for leaders that helps marines identify their 
strengths, personal blind spots, and areas for focused improvement 
through the polling of their supervisors, peers, and subordinates. 
Leaders receive feedback and advice through a dedicated mentor and 
coach. The MarineView360 pilot began with a group of 150 sitting 
commanders and is now leveraging the experience of 200 additional 
selected commanders and senior enlisted advisors. The final phase of 
the pilot will expand to 1,000 marines of varying rank from gunnery 
sergeant to colonel.
    Officer Promotion Opt-Out: Starting in 2022, both the AC and RC 
offered certain officer populations the ability to opt-out of 
consideration for promotion once without penalty. This allowed officers 
increased flexibility in their career paths to pursue unconventional 
career experiences or formal education that would otherwise take them 
off track for key developmental assignments. We are currently exploring 
the expansion of this initiative to enlisted marines to afford them the 
same flexibility in their careers.
    Digital Boardroom 2.0 (DBR 2.0): DBR 2.0 increases the 
functionality and accuracy of information presented to board members, 
enhances the conduct of virtual boards, safeguards data, and improves 
this critical talent management process. The Enlisted Career Retention 
and Reserve Aviation boards successfully used DBR 2.0 in 2022. With the 
availability of cloud-based data, we will expand use of DBR 2.0 while 
simultaneously assessing the outcomes, cost and time savings, and 
professional depth and breadth of board members to benchmark with our 
legacy process.
    Separate Competitive Promotion Categories: To meet the demands of 
the future, the Marine Corps must retain the highest quality officers 
with the necessary skill sets at all ranks. To that end, we are 
exploring options to reorganize the unrestricted officer population 
into separate competitive categories to better meet the Marine Corps' 
needs for diverse expertise and experience at all ranks by competing 
for promotion with peers having similar skill sets, training, and 
education. We will conduct a pilot program to evaluate the merits of 
this reorganization during the 2025 field grade officer promotion 
boards.
    Career Intermission Program (CIP): Many marines desire to pursue 
specialized education, or to focus on family for a significant life 
event. The CIP is an initial step toward allowing marines an option to 
temporarily pause their Active Duty service and later resume their 
careers without penalty. This program enables career flexibility, and 
in doing so, also encourages retention of experienced, talented 
marines.
                      talent management way-ahead
    Manpower Information Technology System Modernization (MITSM): In 
February 2022, Deputy Commandant, Manpower and Reserve Affairs (DC, 
M&RA), created a business capability requirements document that 
outlines the capabilities required to begin the MITSM acquisition 
process. MITSM will aggregate legacy systems and capabilities into a 
device-agnostic, data-driven, and dynamic human resources information 
technology solution that meets the evolving needs of the Marine Corps' 
talent-based workforce. One aspect of the MITSM will be a web-based 
``talent marketplace,'' which will enable a collaborative and 
transparent assignment process and increase the role of both commanders 
and individual marines. This capability will help us better align the 
talent of individuals with the needs of the Service to maximize the 
performance of both. Despite its criticality to modernizing our talent 
management systems and processes, MITSM is currently challenged by the 
acquisition process.
    Potential Implementation of ``Indefinite End of Active Service'' 
Policy for Enlisted Personnel: As we seek to mature the force, we also 
seek to eliminate antiquated processes and policies that induce both 
friction within the personnel system as well as personal and familial 
stress. There is little reason why those who have served honorably for 
16+ years need to worry about re-enlistment before completing 20-years 
of service. This year, we will explore the feasibility of senior SNCO 
career designation to establish an indefinite expiration of Active 
service. This shift will align senior SNCO retention practices with 
those of officers, increase flexibility in assignments, reduce 
administrative burden and needless paperwork, and minimize uncertainty 
for SNCOs and their families.
    Small Unit Leader Initiative: Under the current policy, first-term 
marines are ineligible for promotion to sergeant. While the spirit of 
that policy is reasonable, it creates a disincentive to the highest 
performing marines across the force by establishing an administrative 
obstacle they cannot overcome regardless of individual talent. Going 
forward, if one of our talented marines with at least 36-months of 
service wishes to re-enlist, then that marine will become eligible for 
promotion to sergeant upon their re-enlistment. This program will 
incentivize the most talented who desire to stay for another enlistment 
and should help mitigate the persistent need for sergeants across the 
FMF.
    Active and Reserve Permeability: During the next year, we will 
explore options to increase the permeability between the AC and RC. The 
aim is to better match the diverse--and often immediate--operational 
needs of AC commanders with the specialized skills of individual 
marines in the RC. Due to statutory limitations on reserve employment, 
we will work with the administration to identify potential 
opportunities for improvement to AC-RCg permeability.
    Orders Issuance: In an attempt to give individuals and their 
families as much time as possible when executing a PCS move, we will 
increasingly attempt to issue orders up to 12 months before the 
execution date. We will also assess the feasibility of issuing follow-
on assignment orders to those individuals selected for resident 
professional military education. This should do two things. First, it 
should provide greater clarity to servicemembers and their families to 
facilitate proper planning for any school transitions, childcare needs, 
and special healthcare needs, and will provide spouses more time to 
secure desirable employment. Second, earlier issuance of orders would 
allow the Service to clarify a unit's incoming personnel picture to 
increase long-term planning, effectiveness, and risk management.
    Five-Year Orders: The importance of unit cohesion cannot be 
overstated. To achieve that cohesion, we need to shift from a 3-year 
tour model toward a 5-year tour model--with notable exceptions for some 
of locations such as Okinawa, Japan and Twentynine Palms, California. 
In addition to creating greater unit cohesion and, as a result, greater 
readiness, a 5-year model would facilitate improvements to family 
stability and family readiness. Using the standard twenty-year career 
timeline, the new assignment length would only require a family to 
relocate three times after the initial assignment. This suggested tour 
length should enable children to finish elementary or secondary school 
in one location, and would enable extended periods of spouse 
employment--minimizing the impacts on dual-income households.
    Assignment Incentive Pay / Hardship Duty Pay: Congress and the 
Department have provided us with the authorities necessary to 
incentivize service at some of the more challenging duty stations and 
we have a plan to use them. We will increasingly utilize Assignment 
Incentive Pay (AIP)--consistent with the other services--to increase 
the attractiveness of hard-to-fill duty stations. Notably, Army 
soldiers stationed at Fort Irwin, California or in Korea, have many of 
the same concerns as our marines at Twentynine Palms and Okinawa. In 
addition to AIP, we are exploring other authorities provided by 
Congress, to incentivize duty by our most talented marines in our 
hardest-to-place locations.
    Weapons Systems Officers (WSO) & Electronic Countermeasures 
Officers (ECMO): As we transition from the F/A-18D and EA-6B to the F-
35, we will have the opportunity to transition some of our most 
talented Naval Flight Officers (NFOs) currently serving as WSOs and 
ECMOs into our expanded uncrewed aircraft squadrons (VMUs). At present, 
we have 95 WSOs and 32 ECMOs. While the legacy aircraft these officers 
were previously associated with are being retired, their individual 
skills remain critical to the future force.
    Attracting, developing, incentivizing, and retaining dedicated 
professionals that increase our readiness and lethality is a priority 
and necessary to improve our efficacy as a force. The initiatives 
undertaken since the publication of TM2030 demonstrate our commitment 
to our expeditionary warfighting legacy and our drive to fight and win 
in 2030 and beyond. Our performance in future battles will be defined 
by the investments we make in our Marine Corps today. All actions to 
evolve our talent management system are aimed squarely at supporting 
our warfighting requirements. They will incentivize and optimize our 
talent and sustain our ability to serve as the Nation's premier 
expeditionary force in readiness within the rapidly evolving world we 
face.
                        recruiting and retention
    The Marine Corps is not insulated from the challenging recruiting 
and retention environment impacting the entire DOD. The fiscal year 
2024 budget supports an Active Duty end strength of 172,300 marines, an 
achievable target. The Marine Corps will monitor and reevaluate end 
strength, even as we continue to increase retention as part of our 
Talent Management strategy. We appreciate the support and flexibility 
that Congress provides us on retirement, retention, and end strength.
    In 2022, we achieved our annual recruiting mission and exceeded 
both our first-term re-enlistment goal (101 percent) and our 
subsequent-term re-enlistment goal (107 percent). To put this in 
perspective, 5,063 first-term marines re-enlisted in 2018, while 5,820 
re-enlisted in 2022. Further, we are re-enlisting those marines 
earlier. In fiscal year 2022, the Service met its First Term Alignment 
Program (FTAP) mission on 8 July 2022, which at the time was considered 
a major accomplishment. In fiscal year 2023, we met our FTAP mission of 
6,225 marines on 6 February 2023--a full 6 months earlier--and retained 
higher quality marines than we have in the last few years.
    The Marine Corps met or exceeded both our FTAP and Subsequent Term 
Alignment Program (STAP) goals across the force for the first time in 
13 years. In fiscal year 2023, we expanded early re-enlistment 
authorizations for marines with at least 24 months' time in service 
from 200 to 600. We reached 150 in the first weekend, and then reached 
200 (last year's total) within 3 weeks. We then expanded this program 
to accommodate the 700+ submissions we had received by 1 February this 
year. Completing these early re-enlistments will help mitigate any 
recruiting challenges across a 2-year period (fiscal years 2025 to 
2027). In fiscal year 2023, we satisfied our retention goal of infantry 
marines before December for the first time in over a decade. As a 
result of these retention efforts, we are gradually maturing the force. 
This will result in more mature non-commissioned officers leading our 
youngest marines and will generate better operational outcomes on the 
modern battlefield.
    As noted by RAND economist Dr. Beth Asch, we should never forget 
that we do not have an All-Volunteer Force; but rather, a predominantly 
all-recruited force. To overcome current challenges in recruiting, we 
have challenged all assumptions. We have also resurrected and reviewed 
ideas and options previously generated over the years, but never 
actioned or implemented. The results have been very promising.
    While some assumed 5 year ``infantry-only'' contracts would not be 
well received, that assumption has been invalidated. During the past 
year, we conducted a limited experiment in which we offered recruits a 
60-month infantry-only contract. This 400-spot program ``sold out'' 
immediately and was subsequently expanded to accommodate the demand. 
Infantry-only contracts ensure unit cohesion and almost guarantee 
marines two deployments in a single contract, mitigating unit turnover 
between deployments. Since the completion of that pilot program, we 
continue to find that our young marines prefer the stability afforded 
by these 60-month contracts and are choosing this option over 48-month 
contract options.
    Some assumptions related to the utility of monetary incentives have 
also been invalidated. Big sums of money are not required to 
incentivize potential marine recruits. This past year, we implemented a 
$5,000 shipping bonus program for new enlistees with great success. In 
exchange for this one-time payment, we direct shipping at a date of our 
choosing, which gives us greater predictability and flexibility. This 
experiment was very successful. We also ]implemented a $9,000 shipping 
bonus program with similar success. In exchange for this one-time 
payment, the individual's contract time does not officially begin until 
they arrive at their first unit. As a result, those in this program 
that become infantry marines will average 2 deployments during their 
first contract, because their initial 7 months of entry-level training 
will not count toward their obligated service.
    Finally, we want to make the statement, ``there is always boat-
space for talent,'' a truism across the Marine Corps. In the past, 
talented individuals were denied re-enlistment due to ``closed'' MOSs 
or other administrative obstacles beyond their control, such as an 
inability to transition from an MOS they didn't choose or perhaps never 
wanted. These talented marines want to re-enlist, but they also want a 
new (primary MOS) PMOS. The ability to ``laterally move'' talent into a 
new PMOS is an obstacle at present, but we are working on this issue. 
This is a training issue, not a personnel issue. Regardless, we are not 
going to let 8 to 12 weeks of retraining costs prevent us from 
benefiting from the talents and leadership of these proven marines for 
another 4 years or more of service. If we must choose between proven 
leadership and MOS credibility, we will prioritize proven leadership 
for a greater return-on-investment. Retraining costs less than the 
$42,000 cost to recruit a marine. While recruiting will remain 
challenging for the foreseeable future, the Marine Corps is up to the 
challenge. But there is one option that we will not exercise: we will 
not lower our standards. This is non-negotiable. Despite the well-known 
recruiting challenges in recent years, from 2018 and 2022, the average 
Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT) and average General Technical 
(GT) scores of our infantry marines (0311s) have actually increased 
across the force.
                               childcare
    Addressing the availability of childcare remains a top priority for 
the Service. Unfortunately, persistent supply and demand imbalances 
have resulted in unacceptable wait times for our marine families. At 
present, there are notable waitlists for full-time childcare at Marine 
Corps Base (MCB) Quantico, MCB Camp Lejeune, MCB Camp Pendleton, and 
MCB Hawaii. These locations still maintain approximately 77 percent of 
the Service's unmet waitlist for ages 6 weeks to 5 years. This is 
primarily due to a shortage of qualified workers, high turnover due to 
less competitive pay, lengthy hiring and background check processes, 
seasonal PCS fluctuations, and facility renovations. While we have 
capacity to serve 6,523 children at present, we only have sufficient 
staff to serve 5,880 children. To provide a variety of options that fit 
families' needs and to mitigate lengthy Child Development Center (CDC) 
waitlists, we also offer fee assistance for eligible marines who are 
geographically remote, reside more than 15 miles from an installation, 
or are assigned to an installation with a lengthy CDC waitlist.
    In 2022, with the support of OSD Office of Military Family 
Readiness Policy, we established the Child Care in Your Home (CCYH) 
Pilot Program. CCYH is a DOD fee assistance pilot program that helps 
military families cover the cost of full-time childcare (30-60 hours 
per week) provided in their homes. Designed to support families with 
non-traditional work schedules, care can be provided every day of the 
week and during non-traditional hours, such as evenings and weekends, 
or on rotating schedules.
    At present, we maintain 58 childcare facilities (32 CDCs and 26 
school-aged care facilities). Renovations are currently in-progress 
aboard MCB Quantico and Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Beaufort. We 
recently completed a $37.7 million construction project aboard MCAS 
Miramar, which will provide 412 new childcare spaces to our families. 
In addition, we have construction planned aboard MCB Butler in Okinawa 
for a new school-aged care facility, aboard Camp Pendleton for a new 
CDC that will add 250 additional spaces, and aboard MCB Camp Blaz in 
Guam to satisfy the needs of 276 children in the future.
                       substance abuse prevention
    The Marine Corps' Substance Abuse Program focuses on three distinct 
areas: drug demand reduction, alcohol misuse prevention, and substance 
misuse non-medical counseling services. As part of our continued 
vigilance, we have expanded our urinalysis testing to include both 
illicit and prescription drugs, including the most misused and abused 
opiates. One hundred percent of urine samples are now tested for 
fentanyl. Additionally, due to a regrettable resurgence in lysergic 
acid diethylamide (LSD) in some of the communities surrounding our 
major bases and stations, we added LSD testing back to the standard 
drug testing panel. Delta-8 tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) was also added 
to the standard drug testing panel in July 2021, expanding testing for 
THC products. THC remains the most prevalent drug detected during our 
testing. While expansion in testing did result in an increase in 
positive test results, the Marine Corps remains below the DOD benchmark 
for positive test results and current data indicates that prescription 
drug misuse is low.
                 sexual assault prevention and response
    As a Service, we have focused on countering sexual assault within 
our ranks by professionalizing the prevention workforce, improving 
training for marines at all levels, professionalizing the sexual 
assault response workforce, and strengthening an environment of 
accountability by establishing an Office Special Trial Counsel. As of 
January, our newly established Office of Special Trial Counsel reached 
IOC and is on track to reach FOC by December 2023, putting 
prosecutorial discretion for these offenses in the hands of trained 
attorneys. In addition to these efforts, the Marine Corps continues to 
implement the recommendations of the Independent Review Commission on 
Sexual Assault in the Military, as approved by the Secretary of 
Defense. These efforts include developing organizational structure, 
hiring qualified professionals, and ensuring our prevention workforce 
is trained and postured to provide this crucial support to commanders. 
We are also investing in education to enable prevention, focusing on 
leadership responsibilities to both prevent and respond to sexual 
assault and sexual harassment, and providing training for trauma-
informed leadership. While this larger societal problem persists, we 
are actively pursuing solutions to improve prevention and ensure 
offender accountability when prevention efforts fail.
                           suicide prevention
    As part of our larger human performance management efforts, we 
continue to examine our mental health programs and suicide prevention 
efforts. Every life lost to suicide is one too many. As an organization 
known for our camaraderie, we take every loss of life seriously and 
continue to pursue all opportunities to reduce the incidence of suicide 
amongst our marines, sailors, and their family members.
    The Secretary of Defense recently released a report from the 
Suicide Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee. The 
Committee concluded that the most important preventative measure is 
engaged quality leadership, and we agree. This has long been a focus of 
ours, as have many of the recommended personnel reforms, which mirror 
our on-going talent management initiatives. We also embrace the 
Committee's conclusions about the criticality of access to mental 
healthcare professionals and services, and their recommendations 
related to TRICARE reform to enable such access.
                               healthcare
    Developmental Pediatricians: Generating ready forces requires 
building and sustaining readiness at-home among our military families. 
Military service is demanding. Extended training, frequent military 
moves, and routine deployments--scheduled and unscheduled--strain 
marriages and stress families, regardless of a marine's rank or time-
in-service. That stress is magnified in cases where children have 
special medical needs, such as Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). 
Regrettably, we are currently unable to provide sufficient 
developmental pediatric care across the force, even in areas where we 
enjoy highly developed military healthcare infrastructure, such as San 
Diego or the National Capital Region. Parents are often forced to wait 
6 months or longer for an appointment. This is not acceptable. The 
scholarship is clear and undisputed: early intervention is the key to 
better outcomes for children with ASD. Today, we have four Active Duty 
and three civilian developmental-behavioral pediatricians to support 
the force, which is insufficient to meet the needs of our families. The 
force requires at least two developmental-behavioral pediatricians per 
medical treatment facility to meet the needs of our families. If 
providing these additional developmental pediatricians is considered 
unsupportable, then we would ask for Congress' support in creating 
legislation to make it easier for families requiring this care to 
obtain it from the civilian market. Parents should not be forced to 
choose between their profession and calling to serve, and their need to 
provide for their families.
    Defense Health Agency (DHA): The DHA has undertaken the largest 
transformation in the history of the military health system. From the 
lens of providing support to servicemembers and families, this 
undertaking has failed to satisfy expectations, and has resulted in 
both unsustainable costs and degraded services. While the DHA is 
maturing in its role as a combat support agency (CSA), the lack of 
agreement between the DHA and military departments regarding DHA's 
roles and responsibilities as a CSA, as well as business rules 
governing employment of uniformed personnel inside the medical 
treatment facilities (MTFs), has created significant challenges. This 
problem is compounded by a recent exodus of military and civilian 
healthcare professionals due to ``burn out'' from the COVID-19 pandemic 
and operational tempo, the ability to double or even triple salaries in 
the civilian sector, and uncertainty and frustration over the DHA 
transition. Due to the nation-wide shortage, the DOD is competing for 
the same finite resources when attempting to hire contract healthcare 
professionals. Unfortunately, the DOD contract pay rate is near the 
lowest, if not the lowest, in the industry, making recruitment 
particularly challenging.
    In terms of improving the affordability of healthcare as promised, 
these cost savings have not been realized. In fact, the transition has 
come with higher costs. An additional undesired outcome of the movement 
away from Service authority, direction, and control of healthcare 
delivery is the lack of consideration for Service-specific requirements 
and the impact to healthcare operations. Specifically, in remote 
locations such as Okinawa and Iwakuni, decisions to reduce access to 
care inside MTFs has negatively impacted dependents and civilian 
personnel, which impacts operational readiness.
    I ask for your continued oversight of the DHA and help in 
addressing the overwhelming gap between DOD contract healthcare labor 
rates and the civilian market. The success of the military health 
system (MHS) requires the ability to hire qualified, civilian 
healthcare labor. The MHS must have contract rates that can compete in 
a highly competitive market for a finite and highly valuable resource. 
Failure to remedy this issue will have catastrophic consequences on the 
readiness of the force.
                         training and education
    The Marine Corps enjoys a hard-earned reputation as a learning 
organization. The previous 3 years of Service-level training exercises, 
along with other large and small exercises, wargames, and live force 
experiments, established a sound foundation for organizational 
learning. Collectively, they provided clear evidence that change is 
required. We have learned that today's training and education system 
must rapidly evolve to prepare individual marines and units to succeed 
on an all-domain battlefield. Those changes are articulated in the 
recently published Training and Education 2030 report.
    Training and Education and the Russo-Ukraine Conflict: While the 
future remains uncertain, clear trends are emerging from the conflict 
in Ukraine that are consistent with much of what we have seen in other 
recent conflicts, evidencing the need for accelerated modernization 
across the joint force. However, we should not lose sight of the fact 
that the Ukrainians succeeded in the early phases of the conflict not 
because of superior equipment, but because they were adaptable--
especially at the tactical level--and rapidly innovated new concepts of 
employment to address specific areas where the Russians had achieved 
advantage. In fact, their bias for action, unit cohesion, and emphasis 
on decentralized C2 had a significant impact on the readiness of 
Ukraine's infantry and maneuver forces. These factors allowed Ukrainian 
battalions to effectively operate in and control battlespace we would 
normally associate with an Army Brigade or Marine Regimental Combat 
Team--units 3 or more times larger than a traditional battalion. The 
operational requirements associated with these expanded areas of 
responsibility are placing more and more demands upon junior leaders 
that can only be addressed through greater investment in the training 
and education of our marines. The conflict is demonstrating that 
advanced capabilities will be available and employed at much lower 
tactical levels than we have witnessed in our own recent past. In 
future conflicts, we are going to ask junior leaders at the company 
level and below to do things battalion commanders may not have had the 
authority to do in recent years. It is clear this will require an 
increasing investment in the training and education of our leaders at 
all levels and across the entire joint force.
                                doctrine
    Doctrine establishes the basis for developing operational concepts 
and requirements. It also describes our understanding of how those 
capabilities are to be employed and ultimately, details training and 
associated resource requirements. Marine Corps Doctrinal Publication 
(MCDP) 1, Warfighting, tells us that doctrine 
``establishes a particular way of thinking about war and a way of 
fighting. It also provides . . . a mandate for professionalism, and a 
common language.'' Our doctrine, including its bedrock in Warfighting, 
has given us a solid grounding in the essential elements of maneuver 
warfare, upon which we expect our philosophy of warfare to remain 
anchored for the foreseeable future. This is not enough. The character 
of warfare has always been subject to the constant and uneven pressures 
of technological advance and social and geopolitical change. Warfare's 
changing character means we must constantly review and revise our 
assumptions; they will change, and we must change with them. Doctrine, 
in turn, must evolve, adapt, and keep pace. For example, in June 2022 
we published MCDP 8, Information, describing how the Marine Corps gains 
and exploits information advantages in all warfighting domains across 
the competition continuum. We also recently revised MCDP 4, Logistics, 
updating our doctrinal foundation of this critical warfighting function 
to meet the challenges of the future.
    Changes to our warfighting ideas, theories, and concepts must be 
expressed clearly and quickly. This leads to greater emphasis on the 
rapid creation and dissemination of doctrine at a level of specificity 
below that of our capstone publications and tied tightly to our 
campaign of learning, including feedback from the FMF. Most 
importantly, we must hold ourselves accountable for training and 
operating in accordance with our refined doctrine.
                 enhanced infantry and leader training
    Fourteen-week Infantry Marine Course (IMC): Before our IMC pilot 
effort began, the Marine Corps underwent a deliberate process to 
identify the infantry skills necessary to win in a fight against a peer 
adversary. During this process, Training and Education Command 
developed 39 behaviors required for all infantry marines. These 
required behaviors range from traditional skills like employing the 
service rifle, patrolling, and land navigation to skills such as 
``embodying the Marine Corps' warfighting philosophy'' or ``manag[ing] 
signature.'' Based on feedback from our division commanders, a subset 
of 20 of the original 39 infantry behaviors were prioritized as a 
requirement for entry-level training. Those 20 infantry behaviors 
became the foundation for a new program of instruction (POI) and the 
first pilot of the 14-week IMC.
    IMC marines are held to a much higher physical standard to both 
enter training and to graduate than previously required. Marines 
earning the infantry MOS are now challenged to achieve first class 
scores on the Physical Fitness Test (PFT) and Combat Fitness Test 
(CFT), achieve a minimum swim qualification of Water Survival 
Intermediate (WSI), and pass an evaluation on the Shallow Water Egress 
Trainer (SWET), which simulates procedures for evacuating a sinking 
aircraft. Student physical graduation requirements also include a 10-
kilometer (km) Combat Endurance Assessment (CEA) and completion of a 
20km hike with a 75-pound fighting load.
    In addition to better physical fitness, IMC marines develop better 
decisionmaking skills. By the end of the course, students make 
thousands of decisions, receiving constant feedback from both combat 
instructors and peers, significantly increasing the experiential 
foundation for sound decisionmaking. As IMC builds a better 
decisionmaker, it also produces a significantly more lethal marine. IMC 
graduates are trained to a markedly higher standard in rifle 
marksmanship and are combat capable in all environments with the M27 
Infantry Automatic Rifle (IAR). They are further trained in the 
employment of medium machine guns, grenade launchers, anti-armor 
systems, and light mortars--all of which are new weapons skills for 
basic riflemen.
    Better-trained marines generate operational tempo--a key to success 
in maneuver warfare. The outcomes thus far are remarkable. IMC 
graduates are trained to be quicker-thinking and better decisionmakers, 
more physically fit, and much more lethal at earlier points in their 
careers than their predecessors. All these things should increase the 
readiness of their units and the overall force. To date, 3,524 marines 
have graduated from this program. While it is too early to make any 
definitive conclusions, initial findings suggest IMC graduates may have 
lower non-EAS attrition rates.
   the modernized marine corps training environment (project tripoli)
    We train how we fight. But we are limited by the number of ranges 
and training areas available, environmental limitations, airspace 
restrictions, and several other factors that ensure marines can employ 
the full range of capabilities they will have at their disposal. One 
solution to this challenge is to expand and modernize the Marine Corps 
training environment (MCTE) through an effort called Project Tripoli, 
which seeks the integration of the live, virtual, and constructive 
training domains. The MCTE is our combined arms training concept for 
the future that will enable us to realistically train and exercise with 
our advanced capabilities both internally and as part of the joint 
force. Importantly, it permits training with capabilities in a manner 
concealed from our adversaries and in ways that would otherwise be 
resource prohibitive in terms of materiel, ordnance expenditure, and 
personnel. The MCTE will enable combined arms training in the broadest 
sense and will allow new and expanded dimensions in force-on-force 
(FoF) exercise capabilities. Conceptually, a modernized MCTE integrates 
all training enablers--from high-fidelity flight simulators, to ranges 
and training areas, to FoF training systems--into C2 architectures and 
networks supporting training events. MCTE is not a single acquisition 
program, but a system comprised of multiple training programs. To 
further improve the MCTE network, we will continue to build 
interoperability among existing training systems as we bring new 
systems online, pre-designed with enabling technologies to support 
increasingly dynamic training environments.
    Our next big step will be to field our Force-on-Force Training 
System (FoF-TS) Next Program across the force to equip units with the 
training tools necessary to conduct realistic and challenging FoF 
training. This system is designed specifically to accommodate rapid 
changes and refinements in the training continuum. Additionally, it 
will process the tremendous amounts of sensor data needed for our FoF-
TS, UAS, cyber, electronic warfare, and loitering munition capabilities 
to facilitate readiness. The fiscal year 2024 budget request for 
training and education modernization is $581 million.
                       training areas and ranges
    At present, ensuring sufficient range access and training in the 
Western Pacific region is challenged a by a lengthy supply chain, 
environmental constraints, infrastructure challenges, and access 
restraints. To ensure the persistent readiness of marines in the 
region, the Marine Corps has a number of planned investments across the 
Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands. Investments planned for 
Guam include: a live-fire training range complex, a multi-purpose 
machine gun range, and urban combat training facility, and a training 
support center. On Tinian, the Marine Corps is pursuing a platoon level 
live-fire and maneuver range and an explosive ordnance disposal range. 
These efforts are pending a positive determination of ongoing 
environmental impact studies. The Marine Corps is also involved in the 
Pacific Multi-Domain Training and Experimentation Capability (PMTEC) 
initiative. PMTEC will better integrate existing capabilities and 
expand the ranges and training areas available to marines, to include 
the Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex and the Pacific Missile Range 
Facility.
    Training areas and ranges in Alaska continue to grow in importance 
to overall Marine Corps readiness. The sophistication, instrumentation, 
infrastructure support, and sheer size of Alaska ranges make them 
indispensable for the development of 5th generation fighter aircraft 
tactics. During 2022, marines participated in four joint exercises in 
Alaska, to include the high-end rehearsal exercise RED FLAG. The Marine 
Corps provided 38 F-35Bs across different phases of the exercise as 
well as leading edge air C2 capabilities. In 2023, we will expand our 
participation in exercises in Alaska to include Exercises NORTHERN EDGE 
and ARCTIC EDGE.
    While our efforts to prevent encroachment have focused on 
protecting the ranges and training areas we have, modernized training 
requirements are going to push us to expand training areas in multiple 
domains to ensure we have trained and ready forces to meet our Nation's 
needs into the future. MCAS Yuma makes an outsized contribution to the 
training readiness of marine aviation due, in part, to the presence of 
Marine Aviation Weapons and Tactics Squadron One (MAWTS-1) and the 
conduct of the biannual Weapons and Tactics Instructor (WTI) courses. 
In addition to the decades long challenges associated with the location 
of the Yuma Fairgrounds, the continued use of Marine Corps Air Station 
(MCAS) Yuma's Barry M. Goldwater Range (BMGR) in support of modernized 
aviation training is at risk due to the loss of Flat Tailed Horned 
Lizard (FTHL) habitat associated with border wall construction. By risk 
we mean, the loss of habitat increases the likelihood that the FTHL 
would be listed under the Endangered Species Act. Listing the FTHL 
could result significant restrictions to our ability to train and 
experiment to meet force design objectives. To prevent this from 
occurring, we need to act now to secure necessary FTHL habitat and are 
leveraging the Readiness and Environmental Protection Integration 
Program as one tool to support habitat protection efforts.
    In addition to physical ranges, we will also leverage a variety of 
virtual ranges like the Persistent Cyber Training Environment (PCTE) 
for joint qualification requirements and rehearsals. The PCTE 
integrates capabilities that support continuous evolution of cyber 
training and exercises, enabling force readiness and driving decisions 
on tactical, operational, and strategic levels. Over the past year, the 
PCTE has expanded access to cyber operating forces in the FMF. We are 
confident that access to these modern training environments will 
significantly enable the all-domain nature of our marine forces.
                      installations and logistics
    In recent years, we have identified logistics as the ``pacing 
function'' for warfighting. Among the seven warfighting functions, 
logistics most dictates the tempo of operations and the operational 
reach of a unit. No other warfighting function more profoundly affects 
our ability to persist in contested spaces. Moreover, logistics and 
sustainment capability and capacity have a deterrent effect. Persuading 
an adversary that a quick win is not possible by demonstrating an 
ability to generate, re-generate, and sustain combat power is, in 
itself, a deterrent.
    An uncertain future, the threat of peer and near-peer competitors, 
and developing challenges in all warfighting domains create wide-
ranging implications for sustaining the current and future force. To 
support emerging and future operational requirements against peer and 
near-peer adversaries, we will have to transform our approach to 
logistics. Simply put, we must transition from a force optimized for 
supporting sustained operations ashore to a maritime force capable of 
supporting operations in austere, expeditionary, and littoral 
environments that are contested across all domains. This process of 
change and adaption began with the release of our Installations and 
Logistics 2030 report and our revised foundational doctrinal 
publication on logistics, MCDP 4.
    While our current approach worked well in the past, it is 
insufficient to meet the demands of the future operating environment, 
particularly when contested across all domains. The magnitude of change 
required to prepare the Marine Corps installations and logistics 
enterprise to support the future force mandates a fundamental 
reevaluation of our approach to logistics.
                 installations assessment and resources
    Ready and resilient bases and stations are a critical requirement 
today and into the future. Years of under-funding the installations 
portfolio has resulted in a funding shortfall across the FYDP in the 
tens of billions of dollars. Earlier decisions to take near-term risk 
in these accounts and shift resources to support readiness-related 
accounts resulted in longer-term systemic risks to the Service that we 
must address.
    Beginning in 2023, we will engage in a comprehensive and informed 
infrastructure recapitalization that directly contributes to the 
requirements of the future force. This will require additional funding, 
and while it will take more than one FYDP to accomplish, the foundation 
must be laid today.
      facilities sustainment, restoration and modernization (fsrm)
    Fiscal year 2024 will be the second year using our pilot Readiness 
Maximization Tool. This pilot program prioritizes restoration, 
modernization, and demolition in order to achieve a better facility 
readiness outcome as opposed to the traditional emphasis of focusing on 
sustainment metrics. The Marine Corps' fiscal year 2024 FSRM budget 
request for the Active and Reserve forces totals $1.3 billion.
                    installations plan 2023 (iplan)
    In the near future, we will publish our first ever Installations 
Plan (IPLAN), modeled after the Aviation Plan (AVPLAN), to create a 
shared understanding of the Marine Corps Installations Command (MCICOM) 
enterprise. We intend to produce this reference document annually to 
show military construction (MILCON) and FSRM funding framed across time 
by region, base, and station. The report will further identify the five 
priority MILCON projects (funded or unfunded) by base and station for 
the next 1 to 10 years. Finally, future versions of the IPLAN will 
include a threat-based resiliency assessment by base and station 
regarding resiliency of force protection; airfield operations; range 
support; and command, control, and communications. It will also 
describe the scope, cost, and schedule to achieve resilience.
              milcon priorities in support of force design
    The fiscal year 2024 budget includes $1.3 billion to support a 
total of 16 projects, which includes both planning and design. This 
funding includes seven projects totaling $457 million to continue our 
efforts to relocate marines from Japan to Guam.
                             infrastructure
    Water Infrastructure: Aging drinking water and wastewater systems 
were not designed to meet increasingly stringent environmental 
requirements. These old systems also require significant maintenance to 
continue operation. Since fiscal year 2016, the Marine Corps has 
invested approximately $400 million to upgrade or replace drinking 
water and wastewater infrastructure, improving environmental compliance 
and reducing risk to personnel and the environment. We are currently 
evaluating the need for future support.
    Energy Infrastructure: The vast majority of our installations are 
dependent on a commercial electrical grid vulnerable to disruption due 
to a variety of threats such as aging infrastructure, severe weather, 
and both physical and cyber-attacks. While procedures and 
infrastructure are in place to respond to short-term power outages, 
there is a growing need to ensure we can maintain essential functions 
and critical services during a prolonged outage. As part of our renewed 
focus on installations, we will produce energy resilience plans by base 
and station in 2023.
    Fuel Storage Tanks: In April 2022, in response to an inquiry by the 
Assistant Secretary of the Navy for Energy, Installations, and 
Environment, MCICOM conducted a risk assessment of significant (>10,000 
gallon) fuel storage tanks located on Marine Corps installations, and 
the risk to drinking water sources and systems. This assessment 
included tank condition, tank location relative to systems and sources, 
and condition and adequacy of containment systems. The assessment 
concluded no immediate threat for this population of storage tanks. 
However, the assessment did identify two >10,000-gallon tanks with a 
high-risk for release due to condition, but due to their locations, 
concluded any release from either tank would not impact water sources 
or systems. Since the completion of this assessment, the high-risk tank 
located aboard Camp Fuji has been replaced, and the other tank, located 
aboard MCB Quantico, is scheduled to be replaced this fiscal year. As 
an additional risk mitigation, the tank aboard MCB Quantico has been 
drained pending replacement.
    Barracks: The Marine Corps possesses 672 barracks with 155,329 bed 
spaces. On average, those barracks are 32 years old and in need of 
renovation. In fiscal year 2022, we renovated 14 barracks for a total 
cost of $118 million, and in fiscal year 2023, we plan to renovate 
another 16 at a cost of $262 million. The barracks renovations 
completed in fiscal year 2022 to fiscal year 2023 will positively 
impact 8,116 marines living in them. The per barracks renovation costs 
over the past 2 years have risen from $8.4 million to $16.4 million. At 
present, 16 percent or 108 Marine Corps barracks are in poor (Q3 on the 
facilities conditions index ratings) or failing (Q4) condition. Current 
estimates to recapitalize, sustain, or demolish require an additional 
$3 billion to return all assets to Q2 (>80 facility condition index) by 
2031. Clearly Q2 is not our goal; Q1 is and will be. In fiscal year 
2024, we plan to use approximately $270 million to renovate 25 barracks 
including some renovations previously deferred.
                           guam and h2b visas
    Earlier this year the Marine Corps reactivated Camp Blaz--a 
facility that secures a geographically distributed and operationally 
resilient posture for the Marine Corps in the Indo-Pacific. It also 
strengthens DOD's ability to deter, defend, and support allies and 
partners in the region. The continued build-out of Guam projects will 
require a reassessment of the H-2B visa issue, based on available 
qualified workforce.
                       climate change resilience
    Currently, the Marine Corps is undergoing a review of installation 
master plans to build resilience against all hazards such as wildfires, 
water scarcity, rising sea levels, and hurricanes. Marine Corps Recruit 
Depot (MCRD) Parris Island (PI) has already completed a master plan 
(2021) and a Climate Change Resiliency and Adaptation Plan (2020), 
which are being used to develop MILCON and FSRM investment projects to 
reduce existing and projected localized flooding. The Military 
Installation Resilience Review of the low country community surrounding 
MCAS Beaufort and MCRD PI developed a toolkit for structural 
interventions and nonstructural planning approaches to enable the low 
country communities to adapt to climate change. The toolkit has been 
applied to three pilot projects: St. Helena Island wastewater treatment 
plant, Lady's Island neighborhood, and the Shell Point Interchange. 
MCRD PI's efforts to address sea-level rise and climate change with 
regional conservation groups and the local community is growing 
stronger. MCRD PI currently has five initiatives in process with our 
regional partners: Lowcountry Sentinel Landscape Application, National 
Fish and Wildlife National Coastal Resiliency Fund (carbon 
sequestration $550,000), South Carolina Department of Natural 
Resources, Readiness and Environmental Protection Integration Program, 
and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.
                               conclusion
    On-going conflicts across the continent in Africa, along the line-
of-actual-control between India and China, along the Turkish-Syrian 
border, and in Ukraine remind us that despite our best efforts, we can 
never know with certainty when, where, or how an adversary might 
precipitate conflict--especially against an ally or partner. We must be 
ready--not simply available--to respond tonight, tomorrow, and every 
night into the future. We are. As a Service, we must ensure that your 
crisis response force is globally deployable. We are. But we don't have 
the luxury of building a force for only one threat, one region, or one 
form of warfare. The Marine Corps must be organized, trained, equipped, 
and postured for the full range of operations in places we might not 
expect, and on timelines we did not anticipate. We are. In these times 
of increasing complexity and uncertainty, the Nation needs one force, 
maintained at the highest levels of readiness, that can respond to the 
crises that few saw coming. We are that force.
    This Committee's support to our modernization efforts--anchored on 
Force Design 2030, Talent Management 2030, Training & Education 2030, 
and Installations and Logistics 2030--has been crucial to our success 
thus far. Today is an opportunity to re-recommit to our modernization 
program and help facilitate its acceleration, while at the same time 
addressing issues often mistakenly deemed secondary to readiness such 
as barracks, housing, childcare, and healthcare. Which are equally 
essential to the readiness of the force.
    Based on your continued support, 2022 and 2023 will be known as the 
years Force Design transitioned from ideas to operational capabilities. 
Force Design is now; it is here today. But with updates to organization 
and equipment well underway, we must turn both our attention and our 
resources to manning, training, and retaining. We must never lose sight 
that our most critical warfighting advantage is our people, and that 
they deserve the best quality-of-life that we can provide them given 
the anticipated stress associated with military service. I look forward 
to working with the Committee Members and staff over my final months as 
Commandant, and thank each of you and your staff for the tireless 
efforts in support of the Marine Corps.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Berger.
    Mr. Secretary, submarines are critical, in fact, I would 
argue the most critical aspect of our Navy, and looking at the 
contract right now they are beginning to work on Block V.
    But going back to Block IV we are seeing already delays, 
which will translate into the next block--the multiyear 
acquisition of these submarines. Block IV has been running 
about 12 to 18 months behind, costs have been increasing, and 
we are trying to bring the Columbia in on course and on 
schedule. But when you see these reverberating cascading 
effects you wonder if that is possible, too.
    What are you doing and what is the Navy doing to get these 
course and schedule issues on track?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. There is numerous 
steps that we are taking, first and foremost, obviously, 
providing proper oversight over the construction contracts 
themselves.
    We believe by several estimates that they are at about 1.2 
to 1.4 submarines a year when they need to be at 2.0 submarines 
a year. No one ignores the fact that we have been living in 
COVID and COVID has actually had a significant impact on our 
supply chains and our providers and so this takes all hands on 
deck basically to get to a better place and I hope, and I am 
actually optimistic that we can get to a better place in the 
next 5 years.
    But it is going to demand a lot of incremental progress and 
a lot of continued investment in the submarine industrial base. 
So last year, for example, there was approximately $700 million 
that was invested alone in projects like the regional training 
centers or systems that are so critical to getting to a better 
place.
    Those regional training systems have been implemented in 
the Northeast. They have also been implemented in Virginia as 
well, and out in San Diego working with the community colleges. 
Working with numerous suppliers and vendors throughout the area 
so that then we can make the CAPEX [Capital Expenditure]-like 
investments in those companies to help them get to a better 
place with their own capital investments as well.
    Fundamentally, we also have a challenge, obviously, with 
regards to workforce training and recruitment, and so I 
believe, as I have visited all the shipyards and met with all 
the senior leaders of the shipyards, that they are committed 
now to actually increasing benefits at the shipyards 
themselves. Making the shipyards more amenable to workers 
coming and working there. Looking for housing solutions in the 
local communities as well in places where housing is a real 
problem.
    I am hopeful that over the course of the next few years we 
are actually going to see some significant increased 
improvements and getting us to the right place closer to two 
boats per year on the Virginia-class.
    Chairman Reed. I hope we can because it is essential to the 
Navy. It is one of our greatest assets, particularly in the 
Pacific if there is any conflict there.
    Admiral Gilday, I recently received a briefing from 
Secretary Raven about the suicides on the George Washington. 
The first phase was focused on the individual sailors who were 
involved.
    This new phase is more about collective causal conditions, 
environmental conditions. But with respect to the first phase, 
I think not only myself but some of my colleagues were 
interested about accountability for commanders.
    Was there a thorough investigation of commanders' 
responsibilities and was it formally concluded that there was 
no command or leadership gaps or, in fact, is that still 
pending?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, in the first investigation we did not 
take action against the commander of the George Washington. The 
Secretary and I have both been to that ship. We have walked 
those deck plates. We have met with those sailors before and 
after that investigation was completed.
    The investigation found that those suicides, tragic as they 
are, were independent and there were no common causal factors 
across those three.
    With respect to improvements, although the second 
investigation has not yet been signed out, there are many 
improvements that we have made across the force. They include 
investments in things that we learned from the George 
Washington.
    As an example, parking was a problem at the shipyard so we 
are investing in two parking lots, two multipurpose fitness 
facilities. We brought minimarts, if you will, closer to the 
ships. We improved WiFi. We moved sailors off the ship. We 
invested in new berthing barges. Yes, sir.
    Chairman Reed. I appreciate that. But, very succinctly, was 
there an investigation of the chain of command? Was it 
completed with a conclusion by the Secretary that there was no 
leadership failings?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes. That was a rigorous investigation, 
sir. There were things that went wrong. But tying those 
specific failures to the specific death by suicide were not 
clear.
    Chairman Reed. Let me make one other comment, no questions. 
But as we went through the reports on the George Washington we 
noticed that one factor was sleep deprivation. That was also a
factor in the investigation regarding the McCain and Fitzgerald 
collisions.
    I would presume that you are now relooking at policies and 
procedures so that that is not a factor and I will----
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, for ships that are underway we 
absolutely have and we have sleeping policies in effect now 
based on what we learned from the collisions in 2017.
    The particular issue that you spoke to with respect to the 
George Washington is the fact that one sailor in particular was 
having trouble sleeping on the ship. As I mentioned a moment 
ago, we have tried to move everybody but the duty sections off 
the ship into new berthing barges and other facilities to get 
after that problem.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    Senator Wicker, please?
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman.
    General Berger, let us talk about LPDs. I think you said 
that there is a minimum--absolute minimum requirement of 31 
amphibs. Also, you have asked for $1.7 billion as your number-
one unfunded requirement to fully fund the LPD 33. Why have you 
done that and why is this so important? What if we do not do 
it?
    General Berger. Sir, the study that the Secretary of the 
Navy directed us to do last year determined the operational 
requirement. Pretty rigorous study. Thirty-one is the minimum 
and that made some assumptions on readiness but 31 is the 
minimum of 10 big decks and 21 medium and smalls.
    So 31 is both the operational requirement and now the 
statutory law minimum. That is where the minimum came from. In 
the shipbuilding plan and the budget submitted there is no plan 
to get to that number and that is why I put it as the top of 
the unfunded list. I understand it--I know it to be the 
operational requirement and the law and I saw no plan to get 
there.
    Senator Wicker. Where will that disadvantage us the most if 
we do not do that?
    General Berger. It may be a paraphrase, but in the 
Chairman's opening statement he said that the Navy and the 
Marine Corps are the Nation's first line of deterrence, first 
line of defense. I agree with that.
    If we do not have enough amphibious ships or other naval 
vessels, then you put at risk both deterrence and defense and 
the ability to respond to a crisis. So the short answer is my 
concern is if something happens around the world we will not 
have the right capability nearby where the combatant commander 
needs it.
    Senator Wicker. In particular, how would that help us in 
the Pacific?
    General Berger. If something happened in Taiwan or any of 
the regions of the Pacific where there was an aggressive action 
and we did not have a naval expeditionary force nearby, then 
time--if you are a combatant commander, if you are an 
operational commander, as you know, sir, time matters.
    I think the same you could say in Central Command, same in 
European Command. There are times when you can fly in and land 
a force, but not always. In fact, most of the cases you need a 
seaborne force, and you need marines that can project power 
ashore when you need to.
    Senator Wicker. Let us also talk about production line. 
Now, we are building LPDs now but if this current budget is not 
changed what will happen to that production line? What will be 
the consequences of it?
    General Berger. That line would stop, sir.
    Senator Wicker. In the future when we decide we finally 
want another amphib, how will that disadvantage us? You got to 
go find the workers again, do you not?
    General Berger. That is correct.
    Senator Wicker. Okay.
    General Berger. You got to retrain them, hire them. You got 
to start from scratch.
    Senator Wicker. Also, with regard to cost savings I 
understand the LPD has already gone through cost saving 
programs and someone has suggested a dramatic reduction in 
flight decks and you view that as unacceptable. Would you 
explain that to us?
    General Berger. In 2014 the Navy and the Marine Corps, 
directed by the Secretary of the Navy, undertook a study for 
about 18 months looking at the LPD-17 and what could be an 
affordable but capable replacement for the LSD and that became 
the LPD Flight II.
    Reduction of what was an LPD-17 version into a Flight II 
status, every bit of efficiency squeezed out of that. I think 
the input from Huntington Ingalls was really important. So now 
if there is another effort to reduce that further I know that 
we went to the minimums in 2014. Nothing less will do.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Good. Let us leave it there and, 
Secretary Del Toro, let us talk briefly about frigates. Now, we 
are building those in Wisconsin now?
    Mr. Del Toro. That is correct, sir.
    Senator Wicker. The decision has been made to build the 
frigates there and at another shipyard. Is that correct?
    Mr. Del Toro. No, sir, not as of right now. The decision--
--
    Senator Wicker. That has not been made?
    Mr. Del Toro. No, sir. That decision has not been made.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, where are we on that?
    Mr. Del Toro. We are actually waiting for the completion of 
the technical design package, which is expected by the end of 
this year.
    Once that technical design package is fully mature and 
submitted for review, we will review it and at that point we 
will make a decision on whether we have the ability to actually 
take that technical data package, and make sure that it is 
mature enough to actually compete--perhaps, compete with 
another shipyard so that we could have two shipyards building 
the Constellation-class frigate.
    Senator Wicker. Well, we are going to need four a year. Is 
that right?
    Mr. Del Toro. I am sorry, sir?
    Senator Wicker. We are going to need four frigates a year 
and that that concept is a way to get that. Is that correct?
    Mr. Del Toro. No, sir. Right now the President's Budget 
recommends a saw tooth pattern of two one two one, moving 
forward. So it is two frigates a year that we will initially 
need.
    Senator Wicker. Admiral Gilday, how important would it be 
to move to four?
    Admiral Gilday. I think very important, based on the 
comments of both you and the Chairman at the opening of the 
Committee. If we could get a second shipyard and two a year 
from each shipyard--two destroyers, two to three destroyers a 
year, we would be in a much better place. We are catching up 
and you cannot buy back time, sir, with the seven shipyards 
that we have, relative to the 30 that we had years ago.
    Senator Wicker. It is going to be hard to get to four a 
year without designating two shipyards. Do you agree?
    Admiral Gilday. I agree. I also agree with the Secretary's 
comments. I think two shipyards is in the plan. We want to make 
sure that we are measuring twice and cutting once before that 
decision is made.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, gentlemen.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Hirono, please?
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you very 
much for your service and especially for Mr. Secretary and 
General Berger. This will be your last, I guess, year of 
service, so I thank you.
    I note, Mr. Secretary, that recently the DOD [Department of 
Defense] opened up its Red Hill Clinic to people who were not 
in the service and that is very much appreciated by a community 
that has been rocked by the disaster at Red Hill and continue 
to raise many questions about what the military is doing and 
how they are doing it.
    There were a number of recommended changes to the--based on 
what happened at Red Hill and characterizing what happened at 
Red Hill as having had a culture of procedural noncompliance, a 
lack of ownership, and poor training.
    These were among the descriptions of what led to the 
disaster at Red Hill, and there were a number of 
recommendations made, Mr. Secretary. Among the changes that 
were recommended can you describe a specific major change that 
you have implemented or that is being implemented?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am, and currently out of the 253 
repairs that were identified in order to defuel Red Hill 
approximately just over half have now been completed.
    But the one major change that I would say that I have 
personally implemented is to ensure that anyone who actually 
enters Red Hill is actually being supervised properly. So out 
of the many subcontractors that do work at Red Hill at any 
given day they have Government oversight.
    There is a plan in place that they have to demonstrate for 
exactly what they are going to do, how it was verified, and 
oversight over the individual actions that they are going to 
take with regards to any maintenance that actually gets 
conducted in Red Hill.
    Senator Hirono. So it is not just at Red Hill. There are 
other installations where this kind of review needs to take 
place. It is stunning to note that the lack of ownership, poor 
training, lack of oversight that characterize what happened at 
Red Hill may be going on in other facilities and that needs to 
be changed. That kind of culture of lack of oversight is really 
very stunning and totally unacceptable.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, if I can just add that that degree 
of oversight actually has been enforced now at all other fuel 
facilities as well, too.
    Immediately after the incident at Red Hill we made sure 
that we looked at every other fuel farm that we own and operate 
to try to ensure that we up the standards of how those fuel 
farms are actually operated.
    Senator Hirono. That is reassuring.
    Mr. Del Toro. So those measures are in place.
    Senator Hirono. That is reassuring, Mr. Secretary, because 
as you know the community is still very much questioning the--
basically the military's capacity to do the right thing and 
complete the work that needs to be done at Red Hill.
    General Berger, many field grade officers who are actually 
on the ground and closest to the problem have come on and 
publicly said the changes made by Force Design 2030 have made 
their units more capable, and you mentioned the Hawaii-based 
Third Marine Littoral Regiment's successes against a more 
standard Air-Ground Task Force in recent exercises.
    These young men are the future leaders of the Marine Corps 
and are currently tasked with ensuring the marines are 
prepared. So their support for the changes made by Force Design 
2030 is instructive. I just wanted to make that statement, 
General, because I do support the changes that you have made.
    One thing that does concern me, General Berger, is you 
noted that infrastructure is very important. The modernization 
and maintenance of infrastructure that has to do with the 
quality of life of our people, and, yet, the Marine Corps only 
funded 54 percent of the facilities' sustainment and 
restoration funds that it needs.
    So why is this, General? Because for other funding needs it 
is a much higher percentage of the items that are being funded 
and yet for the Marine Corps it is only 54 percent. Why is 
that?
    General Berger. The approach of 80 percent funding for FSRM 
[Facilities, Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization], which 
has been the model that we have used for as long as I have been 
a marine, has not always allowed us the flexibility to put 
money where we should have put it because we are tied to a 
fixed percentage across FSRM. The model that we are using now 
supported by OSD [Office of the Secretary of Defense] allows us 
the flexibility to move money within, to not waste money where 
it is not going to do any good.
    Senator Hirono. There is a question as to what you consider 
will not do any good because there are a lot of infrastructure 
needs. I think, throughout the DOD and, as you know, to me, Red 
Hill and some of the other events that have occurred with 
regard to the Army and the other services says to me that we 
need to pay a lot more attention to our infrastructure needs.
    The kind of deferred maintenance that is exemplified, I 
would say, throughout DOD is an area that I personally--well, I 
will be focused on as Chair of the Readiness Subcommittee.
    I just want to note that to you that I will be paying 
attention to the needs of all of our services with regard to 
repair and maintenance of infrastructure. I want to know that 
what is going through our lines, our pipes, our electrical 
lines are--that those infrastructure needs are being met.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Fischer, please?
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning.
    Mr. Secretary, earlier this morning I attended a classified 
briefing on the modernization of our triad platforms, and I 
would say since the Columbia program is on a tight timeline to 
deliver the first submarine to the Navy in 2027, can you 
provide us an update in this public setting on whether the Navy 
will be able to meet this timeline given workforce and supply 
chain challenges?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. Thank you for that 
question and for your commitment to the nuclear triad as well.
    As you know, currently approximately 50 percent of our ship 
construction funds are devoted to submarines of which Columbia 
is the highest acquisition priority. When I came in as 
Secretary approximately 19 months ago or so. I also foresaw 
that there always could exist, perhaps, a gap between the 
decommissioning of the Ohio-class and the oncoming of the 
Columbia-class.
    One of the measures that I did take last year was to start 
analysis associated with how long it would take, and how much 
resources would be needed to actually look at each one of our 
Ohio sub hulls and see if we could extend some of those hulls 
to close the potential gap between Columbia and Ohio. That 
process is now underway and we should have better estimates, 
hopefully, by the end of this year that we can invest in the 
President's 2025 Budget.
    In addition to that, all the oversight functions that I 
mentioned earlier to the Chairman with regards to keeping 
Columbia on track and, again, I thank the Congress for their 
investments in the industrial base.
    Senator Fischer. Can you give us a timeframe that we are 
currently seeing for the Columbia? Is it on track? Is it 
maintaining?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes.
    Senator Fischer. Is it dropping back?
    Mr. Del Toro. So Columbia is on track in accordance with 
her contract requirements. There was an expedited schedule that 
was created by Electric Boat, approximately 6 months advanced. 
It is about approximately 10 percent behind the 6 month advance 
schedule that we would like to adhere to as well, too.
    But rest assured that we are working very closely with the 
industrial base to keep it on its contract schedule.
    Senator Fischer. Admiral, do you have anything to add to 
that?
    Admiral Gilday. I was just up in Connecticut last week at 
the shipyard. The Secretary is absolutely right. We are about 
10 percent behind in the advanced schedule. We are watching 
that very closely.
    So that advanced schedule, 78 months versus the 84 months 
contracted, is intended to give us margin for first-of-a-class 
ship. We are going to have to do weapon systems testing and we 
are going to have to do testing of a first-of-a-kind integrated 
propulsion system, and so we are trying to factor that in, 
watching it very closely.
    I would say that the shipbuilders are making really great 
strides--in terms of hiring 4,000 additional workers last year, 
another 6,000 planned for this year.
    So we remain confident and keep a close eye on it, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. In working with the industry on this, can 
you give us some specifics that you are looking at to help them 
continue on that expedited schedule?
    Admiral Gilday. So, as you know, the Congress has been very 
generous in terms of infrastructure investments that we have 
made in those two shipyards down in Newport News and also up at 
Electric Boat to the tune of billions over the Future Years 
Defense Program (FYDP).
    Separately, I think that the money that we are applying for 
advanced procurement materiel, particularly given the supply 
chain challenges we have seen post COVID, are also going a long 
way to get that materiel well in advance so that we have no 
work stoppages.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Thank you.
    What do you assess the role of the unmanned platforms? What 
are they going to play in future Navy operations? You mentioned 
those in your opening statement. How do you think the 
architecture of the fleet should be structured so that you can 
achieve that balance between manned and unmanned?
    Admiral Gilday. So whether it is under, on, or above the 
sea we are looking at manned/unmanned teaming. So this will be 
a phased approach. Initially, you would have unmanned teamed 
with manned aircraft, as an example, where the manned aircraft 
would be the quarterback and the unmanned would be the wingman.
    We are doing the same thing under the sea. We are doing the 
same thing on the sea. Under the sea, we have our first extra 
large UUV [Unmanned Undersea Vehicle] prototype in the water 
now for testing off the coast of California, with more to 
follow. This brings a clandestine mine-laying capability to the 
combatant commanders.
    On the surface we have been doing a lot of work with drones 
in the Middle East. We will have a hundred this year operating 
along with six other countries. We are only paying 20 percent 
of that bill. The other countries are chipping in and paying 
most of it.
    That allows us to have more persistent coverage in an area 
where--in the Middle East that is still a maritime domain. But 
we do not have the numbers of ships that we have had in the 
past.
    In the air we have our drone and MQ-25 that is operating 
off our carriers now and testing. We will go IOC [Initial 
Operational Capability] in a couple of years and so that frees 
up--that is our first instantiation of an airborne UAV 
[Unmanned Aerial Vehicle] that allows us to refuel aircraft in 
the air, give them another 500 miles of range.
    So we are making all of these progressive advancements and 
trying to do it very deliberately but at speed.
    Senator Fischer. The lessons you are learning in the Middle 
East are those transferable to the Pacific?
    Admiral Gilday. Absolutely. The Secretary just announced 
that we are going to scale our unmanned operations from the 
Middle East to Southern Command. So it is taking a closer look 
at illicit drugs and illicit persons that are coming up the 
northern approaches by the maritime. Also, our intent is to put 
an unblinking eye on illicit Chinese fishing on both coasts of 
South America.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Kaine, please?
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to Admiral Gilday 
and General Berger, my congratulations and gratitude to both of 
you for wonderful service.
    General Berger, I just want to pick up one point and make 
sure I get the punch line version of one aspect of your 
testimony. The Nation needs 31 amphibs. The statutory 
requirement is 31 amphibs. The budget we have before us has no 
path to get to 31 amphibs. Am I reading you right?
    General Berger. Yes, sir.
    Senator Kaine. All right. Thank you.
    Secretary Del Toro, I want to thank you for your attention 
to an issue that has been very challenging for us in Virginia 
and that is military suicides, particularly connected with the 
George Washington and also the Mid-Atlantic Regional 
Maintenance Center (MARMC).
    You and I went together down to MARMC and I could tell in 
your interaction with the command and with the rank and file, 
both the sailors and the civilians in that unit of 2,500 
people, that this is something you take very, very seriously 
and you are focused on trying to figure out a way to improve 
this set of tragedies.
    If I could ask you a set of questions about that. Could you 
first tell me what is the status of Brandon Act implementation?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. The fine details of how best to 
implement the Brandon Act are being reviewed by the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. I hope that 
over the course of the next several months we will actually 
have a path forward on how best to execute it.
    It is extremely important to bring every tool in the 
toolkit in order to solve this or try to help solve this very, 
very tragic situation with regard to not just suicides in the 
Navy, but suicides in the Nation, and there is no greater 
responsibility the Secretary has than the safety of their 
personnel both in the Navy and Marine Corps and the civilian 
personnel. As you suggested, we take this responsibility very 
seriously.
    Senator Kaine. I would love to stay in touch with you about 
this because what I would not like to happen would be for there 
to be a report about implementation after the NDAA is done that 
we do not find satisfactory.
    I would like to stay in dialog with you about the 
implementation, so that if we feel like we want to offer some 
additional muscle to implementation we have a chance to do that 
before the Committee finishes its work on this. So I will 
continue with you on that.
    I also had the chance to talk to Admiral Franchetti and 
Secretary Raven about the phase two analysis of the George 
Washington suicides, and I know that it is not yet done.
    I was heartened by some of the initial discussion about the 
depth of recommendations that are going to be made. But I am 
interested in one particular issue and I am not sure that it is 
covered in the phase two, based upon my questions.
    Last year's House Report to the NDAA directed a briefing on 
personnel assignments to carriers undergoing refueling. Do we 
need to maintain the entire ship's fleet with a ship during an 
extended refueling? In the George Washington case it is 6 
years. Senator Scott has raised some similar questions in 
hearings before.
    As I asked Secretary Raven and Admiral Franchetti about, 
does phase two get into challenging assumptions about whether 
we have to keep the entire ship personnel component intact 
during the entire refuel, which can be a very extended one as 
the George Washington, I got an answer that made me think that 
was not part of the analysis. So and yet that was a suggestion 
in the NDAA language from the House side last year that we 
analyze ship personnel assignments during extended refuels.
    Tell me if you are doing anything to sort of challenge your 
own assumptions about what personnel component is needed during 
a refuel, or particularly for first tour sailors, are there 
other assignments that they could take on that would more 
closely match the MOSes [Military Occupational Specialties] 
they have trained for.
    Mr. Del Toro. Absolutely so, Senator, and in fact, the 
summary report may not have highlighted that as a fact. But we 
are taking a close look at this because it is extremely 
important, and while the entire crew may not be needed 
throughout the course of the entire RCOH [Refueling and Complex 
Overhaul], especially when the ship first comes into port and 
to its following stages, toward the end of the RCOH you do have 
to build that crew back up.
    In fact, one of the things that we discovered on the George 
Washington, for example, is that there was a lack of mid level 
leadership in the chief petty officer corps. They were not 
providing the necessary oversight for junior personnel, for 
example.
    So although it is complicated, I do not think the entire 
crew is needed throughout the entire period. But there are 
stages where we actually need that mid level management 
overseeing our most junior sailors who could be challenged with 
living in a shipyard environment.
    Senator Kaine. Just one final thing as I conclude. When we 
visited the Mid Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center following 
the suicide of four sailors there within 2 months it was, I 
think, fairly clear that a contributing factor was a manning 
policy that allowed for a 60 percent increase in the assignment 
of personnel who were either on limited duty or pregnancy 
postpartum, with no additional assignment of medical resources 
to help them deal with, for example, a med board process or 
other needs they might have.
    What are you doing to try to deal with that issue to 
provide more in-unit resources in billets like this where there 
is a high percentage of people who are assigned on either a 
limited duty or a pregnancy postpartum status?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. I will let the CNO address the 
specific actions that are being taken, but we actually have 
channeled back on that policy. We have way too many LIMDUs 
[Limited Duty Personnel] going to other places where they 
cannot be cared for in the manner that they deserve to be cared 
for.
    So we are actually looking at withholding the ones that we 
can back on ship where they have better care and more resources 
available to them. But, perhaps, the CNO can go into a little 
bit more detail on the specific action.
    Senator Kaine. I am over time. But if you could do it 
briefly.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. I will make three quick points.
    The first thing that we are doing is making a faster 
determination of what path they ought to be on. Are they just 
on light duty for a period of 2 weeks because they have a 
sprained ankle or do we need to move them off the ship on a 
more permanent basis. Getting them the help that they need at 
an accelerated rate so that we prevent them from going into a 
limited duty status. The point is to keep sailors at work.
    The third, for those on limited duty to get them those 
medical evaluations at a much faster pace. We are also reducing 
the ratio of those in limited duty at commands so that we do 
not have another MARMC, so that people are properly supervised, 
sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine.
    Senator Cotton, please?
    Senator Cotton. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral Gilday and General Berger, thank you for your 
latest and presumptively your last appearance at the Committee 
as Chief and Commandant. We congratulate you for a lifetime of 
service and appreciate everything you have done for this 
country.
    Mr. Secretary, I want to be the latest Senator to ask about 
this issue of the 31 amphibs. The budget this year does not 
include any fiscal year 2024 money for the seventeenth San 
Antonio-class ship.
    That sets you on a path to fall below the legislatively 
mandated 31-ship amphib floor, as Senator Kaine pointed out, 
and, General Berger, you testified that you think that is in 
the needs of the Marine Corps.
    I just want to ask what is up with this discrepancy between 
that legislative mandate and General Berger's stated needs for 
the Marine Corps, and the budget request? Can you explain it to 
us?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. First, let me 
unequivocally State that I do not dismiss anything that the 
Commandant of the Marine Corps said with the need for our 
Nation to have the heavy lift that is necessary to provide our 
expeditionary forces in the Pacific. In particular, the ships 
that they need to be able to carry equipment and personnel 
around the Pacific.
    The concern that developed over the course of the last year 
or so has been the increasing costs of the platforms 
themselves. There were two studies that were done to address 
this issue.
    One is a cost study that was initiated by the Office of 
Security Defense to look at the--and compare the costs, 
essentially, between the different designs of the LPD and see 
if we could actually bring down those costs. The second is the 
BFSAR [Battle Force Slip Assessment and Requirement] which is 
mandated by the 2023 NDAA as well, and to take a look at the 
overall requirements for the amphibious ships, both large and 
medium, in order to make the right decisions necessary in the 
2025 budget to invest in the required platforms.
    I think that there is also general recognition that moving 
toward a multi-ship multiyear procurement is an effective way 
to bring the cost of those ships down in the future.
    Senator Cotton. So at bottom it is a cost issue?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. The cost per ship issue.
    Senator Cotton. Yes.
    General Berger, any further thoughts on this matter?
    General Berger. You, the Senate--the Congress gave the 
service chiefs the authority, the responsibility to determine 
the operational requirement. Which I did, which is 31.
    But the Secretary, obviously, has a lot of things he has to 
fund as does the Secretary of Defense. I am not in their 
position to weigh it against all the other things that they 
must fund. I can just tell you that the operational 
requirement, the minimum, is 31 and that assumes a level of 
maintenance that provides the availability to the combatant 
commanders.
    Senator Cotton. Okay, Thank you both. Obviously, this 
matter has a high degree of interest on the Committee and I 
suspect we will be addressing it in the months ahead.
    Mr. Secretary, I also want to speak about the State of our 
industrial base, especially what it means for submarines, the 
Navy's inability to build ships and the fleet on time and on 
budget for many years. Well before you came along, to be fair--
--
    Mr. Del Toro. Trying to make it better, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Yes.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Cotton. We all are, but it has been a source of 
growing concern. There are press reports that it is now going 
to take 5 years for the Virginia-class submarine production to 
reach its target of two boats per year.
    Admiral Gilday earlier this year spoke to industry and he 
told them that they needed to prove it. That is a direct quote. 
I think that is an apt quote to industry regarding the ability 
to ramp up production. Our submarines, obviously, provide us an 
unmatched strategic advantage, especially in the Western 
Pacific against Communist China.
    So could you give us some thoughts about what we can do in 
this Committee and in Congress to help assist with the ramp up 
of the industrial base especially as it relates to submarines?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. Again, it is an all hands on deck 
approach. Everything from trying to improve the manpower issue 
and trying to get the shipyards to be able to recruit more 
effectively.
    I mean, we face across the entire country, a national 
shortage when it comes to blue collar workers. I think 
increasing legal immigration to this country and work visa 
programs actually may very well help to better and support that 
blue collar workforce that is needed in places like the 
shipyards, for example.
    But, again, the investments that you have made in 2023 and 
2024 are in the right direction in terms of the investments in 
the industrial base itself.
    One thing that I have been trying to do, Senator, is trying 
to expand the marketplace with regards to smaller shipyards. 
Getting them involved in Department of Defense construction and 
having them actually support the big primes.
    I have been having conversation with the primes, for 
example, to try to include more smaller shipyards to feed the 
primes, and a perfect example of that actually is being 
executed now at Austal, where even before I got here the CNO 
encouraged the development of steel hulls at Austal.
    They are now building steel hulls and they are actually 
contributing to Electric Boat up in Connecticut and providing 
the necessary modules necessary. I think HII [Huntington 
Ingalls Industries] is doing the same thing as is Ingalls down 
in Pensacola as well, too.
    I think continued investment in CAPEX makes a lot of sense 
where the Government invests in these capital improvement 
programs at the shipyards so that the shipyards can also make 
an equal investment and help get us to the right place.
    It is all hands on deck across the entire spectrum of 
improvements that have to be made.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Rosen, please?
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking Member 
Wicker, for holding this very important hearing and I want to 
thank all of you for being here today and thank you for your 
service and for your support for things in Nevada, of course, 
across the country as well.
    I want to talk a little bit about Nevada and the Fallon 
Range Training Complex modernization. Secretary Del Toro, as 
you know, we are so proud in Nevada to host Naval Air Station 
Fallon, home to ``Top Gun'' and the Nation's premier carrier 
air wing and the SEAL training centers. I want to offer you and 
your staff again my personal gratitude for working with me and 
the Nevada delegation on a consensus proposal to modernize the 
Fallon Range Training Complex, which was included in the Fiscal 
Year 2023 NDAA.
    I appreciate that Under Secretary Raven and other senior 
leaders will be traveling to Fallon just later this week to 
meet with the Tribal Nations because this agreement included 
key mitigations for local and tribal governments that require 
future appropriations.
    Specifically, the Navy is responsible for compensating for 
the timely reconstruction and, of course, relocation of 
impacted roads and infrastructure, the displaced grazing 
permittees, our cultural resource surveys and environmental 
assessments. Funding and completion of these requirements is 
not just important for my constituents, it is also necessary to 
ensure that expanding the training complex can become 
operational for the future of the Navy.
    Given that Fallon modernization was the top Navy's 
legislative priority the Nevada delegation was expecting that 
in the fiscal year 2024 budget the request would include 
funding for those various commitments. However, fiscal year 
2024 budget was silent, silent on Fallon modernization.
    Secretary Del Toro, can you speak to the Navy's 
implementation plan for modernization of the Fallon Range 
Training Complex, given the urgency to modernize? I am curious 
why this implementation is not included in the Navy's fiscal 
year 2024 budget request.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, let me first, again, thank you for 
your leadership on this issue. I was so proud to have been--
played a small role by your side, basically, to bring this 
across the finish line. But it is about execution now.
    I am unaware that we actually do not have the necessary 
funds to execute on the plans that were already baked into the 
agreement in fiscal year 2024. As far as I know, and I have 
reviewed the actual next steps that are required to execute the 
plan, I know that there is going to be moneys that get put into 
the President's Budget 2025 to continue those efforts.
    But as far as I am aware there are no delays in actually us 
being able to meet the requirements necessary that were laid 
out in that plan, in accordance with agreements that were made 
between the tribes and us and the community and us as well, 
too.
    It is my understanding that all the funds that we currently 
have are enough to fulfill the existing requirements that we 
currently have. More will come, obviously. But let me get back 
to you with more specifics because I do not want to misspeak on 
that.
    Senator Rosen. Perfect. I will have my team circle back and 
we can find out about that.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am.
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    Mr. Del Toro. Thanks to strong support from Congress, the 
Department of Interior, Tribal, and State and local 
stakeholders, the Navy continues to make significant progress 
on Fallon Modernization, and our fiscal year 2024 budget 
request aligns with our overall schedule. While our current 
efforts are not listed as distinct budget line items, the 
Department of the Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget request 
includes several key actions within our Operations and 
Maintenance funding. In fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2024, 
the Navy will execute numerous planning studies and surveys 
that are needed to support our military construction projects. 
We are conducting the environmental planning needed for the 
relocation of Sand Canyon/Red Mountain Road and the relocation 
of the gas pipeline at B-17 and State Route 361. We have also 
initiated the process to update the Integrated Natural Resource 
Management Plan and Wildland Fire Management Plan at Fallon.
    The first of five military construction projects needed to 
support modernization, P442 Range Training Complex Land 
Acquisition, was authorized and appropriated in fiscal year 
2021, and with the passage of the fiscal year 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act can now move forward on that project. 
The remaining four military construction projects will be 
included in future budget requests aligned with execution 
timelines and mission-need dates.

    Senator Rosen. I also want to ask you this, that I 
understand the Navy has yet to finalize an agreement with the 
local tribes regarding access to important sites. So can you 
give me an update on the Navy's engagement with the tribes and 
the timeline for finalizing access?
    Mr. Del Toro. Ma'am, allow me to get back to you with 
specifics because I do not want to misspeak in any way. My 
understanding was that everything is on track and actually 
Secretary Berger and Secretary Raven are traveling out there to 
actually celebrate, in many ways, the progress that we have 
made in the path forward and review what lays ahead, basically, 
on the POA&M [Plan of Action and Milestones].
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    Mr. Del Toro. The Department of the Navy deeply values our 
relationships with the Tribes, and Naval Air Station Fallon has 
existing procedures established to support public access, 
including Tribal access requests.
    In fiscal year 2022, the Navy and the Northern Nevada 
Tribes collaborated to produce a draft Memorandum of Agreement 
(MOA) to streamline Tribal access requests. Based on new 
requirements included as part of the Fallon Range Training 
Complex modernization in the fiscal year 2023 NDAA, the Navy 
updated the draft Tribal Access MOA, and shared it with the 
Tribes on February 27, 2023. The Fallon Paiute Shoshone Tribe 
(FPST) has been convening the Northern Nevada Tribes for 
discussions and to collect feedback on the updated draft Tribal 
Access MOA, and has offered to consolidate any additional 
Tribal comments and return them to the Navy. The Navy is in 
regular communication with our Tribal leaders at the local and 
Secretariat level, and we understand that their process should 
finish soon. Once we receive the consolidated comments from the 
Tribes, we will finalize the agreement.

    Senator Rosen. I am going to stay a little bit on Naval Air 
Station Fallon because the personnel stationed there they do 
conduct critical training missions. The fleet is deployable and 
operationally ready every day.
    These operations [are] incredibly demanding and so reducing 
external stressors is important not only to the sailors but 
also to the mission. I know 172 new housing units are on track 
to be built at Naval Air Station Fallon. It is going to help 
ease a little bit of that housing strain.
    But more needs to be done, and Fallon is still considered a 
remote duty installation and I want to ensure that other things 
for quality of life are also addressed. I can take this off the 
record if you would be brief--can you speak to the quality of 
life at Fallon, mental health resources that might be available 
for our sailors and folks that train there and work there. What 
are you doing to support those on remote duty in the NDAA?
    Mr. Del Toro. We recognize that Fallon is a remote site and 
we recognize the challenges that go along with that, in 
general.
    The CNO, the Commandant, and I are hyper focused on 
actually the remote sites across the entire country more so 
than the major concentration areas as well, too, because they 
undergo a lot more stressors than other locations.
    I have actually specifically spoken to the Under Secretary 
of Defense for Personnel and Readiness on the hospital issues 
associated with Fallon, Nevada, for example. Because it is so 
important to get the right mental health providers necessary to 
fill those billets in Nevada and we are struggling to fill 
those billets in Nevada, obviously, as well as in Yokosuka, 
Japan and Rota, Spain as well, too.
    But allow me to get back with a long list of actions that 
we are specifically taking with regards to Nevada on the 
quality of life issues on the bases.
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    Mr. Del Toro. Taking care of sailors and their families 
remains one of my top concerns, and this is especially 
important in more remote areas where certain services may not 
be as readily available. To your point, we need these 
outstanding sailors to be able to focus on their mission, so 
ensuring that they and their families have the resources they 
need is extremely important. To that end, the Navy provides 
mental health resources, child and youth programs, and an array 
of morale, welfare and recreation programs for those assigned 
to NAS Fallon.

    Mental Health Resources:

    The Fleet and Family Support Center at NAS Fallon is 
staffed with independently licensed mental health professionals 
to provide in-person, short-term, non-medical clinical 
counseling for commonly occurring life situations and 
adjustment issues, thereby intervening prior to the development 
of more serious problems or diagnosable mental disorders.
    Additionally, Sailor Assistance and Intercept for Life 
(SAIL) is a voluntary program that quickly provides rapid 
assistance, ongoing clinical case management, care 
coordination, and reintegration assistance during the stressful 
period following suicide-related behavior by a sailor. SAIL is 
delivered virtually and to increase access to services in 
remote duty locations like NAS Fallon, Navy recently expanded 
virtual access to both SAIL and non-medical, clinical 
counseling services.
    The Navy's Integrated Primary Prevention Program is 
dedicated to the prevention of interpersonal violence and self-
harm. The Navy Integrated Primary Prevention Workforce will 
total more than 300 personnel over the next 5 years. NAS Fallon 
will be assigned three Integrated Primary Prevention billets, 
and Navy Region Southwest assigned another 50 billets.

    Child and Youth Programs (CYP):

    NAS Fallon Child Development Center is the only accredited 
childcare provider in Churchill County and supports children 
ages 6 weeks to 5 years. CYP also provides a School-Age Care 
(SAC) Program for elementary school-aged children (before/after 
school and summer programs/camps) and a Youth/Teen Program. 
Finally, a School Liaison Officer is assigned to NAS Fallon to 
connect military families with area schools and to support 
schools in responding to military and family needs.

    Morale, Welfare, and Recreation (MWR):

    NAS Fallon MWR offers an array of quality of life services, 
activities and events, and delivers high-quality, innovative, 
recreation programs. Navy MWR provides a variety of free and 
low/competitively priced options for sailors and their 
families, including dining, fitness, recreation, gear rental, 
an RV park, and a variety of other amenities on the 
installation. The revenue generated from these programs is 
reinvested in sailor and family programs. NAS Fallon actively 
engages with sailors and families, both those permanently 
assigned and those visiting for temporary additional duty, 
training, or other mission reasons to ensure quality of life 
programs are relevant, accessible, convenient, and well-
marketed.
    The Navy supplies similar quality of life resources at 
other remote locations. These services are critical as they 
directly benefit the well-being of sailors and families. The 
Navy is also engaged with the Suicide Prevention and Response 
Independent Review Committee Implementation Working Group to 
target QOL support to Remote and Isolated locations.

    Senator Rosen. Perfect. Thank you very much. I will be 
submitting some more questions for the record. Thank you.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Rounds, please?
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First of all, to 
all three of you thank you very much for your service to our 
country.
    Admiral Gilday, 38 years is a long time. Cannot do it 
without family. I appreciate you and your family. Very, very 
special.
    General Berger, thank you very much for your 42 years of 
service and, once again, without what you do, the Services here 
in the United States simply are not what they are today. So 
thank you to both of you.
    Admiral Gilday and General Berger, there have been efforts 
to share or take parts of the spectrum away from DOD activities 
and to use them for 5G, recognizing that 5G is an important 
aspect in this country and it is something that we need to be 
able to utilize.
    But in doing so there is a particular part of the spectrum 
which is, I believe, very critical to a number of our defensive 
systems. Specifically, the 3.1 to 3.45 gigahertz band, or the S 
band, of the electromagnetic spectrum is used specifically by a 
number of your platforms.
    Admiral Gilday, General Berger, could you share with us in 
this unclassified meeting the types of systems that would be 
impacted if this transfer of spectrum capability or limitation 
of spectrum capability were actually enacted before this 
September study is completed? Can you share with us how serious 
this could be to your ability to do your mission?
    Admiral Gilday. Senator, I would like to talk about three 
specific threat areas that I think come to mind when it comes 
to the very powerful capabilities that we have in that part of 
the spectrum.
    The first is air defense. We just saw what happened when a 
balloon flew over the United States. We cannot have that happen 
with a more serious threat, and so that band affects the ship-
borne radars that specifically would provide that type of early 
warning.
    The second point I would make is about countering unmanned 
and so these are drones that are increasing in capability and 
size and lethality. I do not mean to be dramatic but we have to 
look around the bend to the future, the possibility of having 
to defend ourselves against threats like that and we cannot be 
blind to them. Taking away the capability in that band would do 
so.
    The last area that I would speak to is missile defense and 
so we need warning there as well. These radars in that band 
bring that to bear. We know that we are in the age of 
hypersonics. It is not a place where we think that we want to 
accept risk.
    If we do lose access to that band, if it is either vacated 
or shared and we cannot do that job on a continual basis, then 
I think we have to look at what modifications that we would 
need to make to probably 188 ships in terms of their systems to 
provide the American people with a degree of confidence that 
those three areas that I mentioned are properly defended.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you.
    General Berger?
    General Berger. I think what seems lost in that 
conversation, Senator, is those systems, those radar, 
electronic warfare systems were designed to optimize that 
spectrum for a weapon system.
    We had access to that when the requirements were developed. 
That is why we went with that weapon system. So if that access 
is lost then the very reason you pick that part of the band of 
the spectrum for a radar, for electronic warfare, for a 
training system, all that is lost to us.
    We have to be able to train realistically. So, for us, I 
think the same as CNO, the radar systems primarily but also 
other sensing systems and electronic warfare. That is why we 
chose that portion of the band.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, if I can just add, the cost of 
actually relocating these systems would be enormous, I mean, 
upwards of $250 billion, probably. So I am really fearful of 
the secondary consequences that some of these decisions could 
actually lead us to.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Would it be fair to say 
that the State of Hawaii is protected by those systems today, 
Admiral Gilday?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, to some degree.
    Senator Rounds. How about the capital of our country, 
Washington, DC?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. How about the West Coast of the United 
States today?
    Admiral Gilday. Absolutely. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. All of those are utilizing weapon systems 
or radars that are specific to this particular part of the 
spectrum that they are talking about trying to either share or 
sell, correct?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir, and importantly also it would 
affect our ability to train to a high degree of proficiency to 
use those weapon systems.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. My time is expiring. I would not 
want to disappoint the Committee. I will ask a question for the 
record with regard to the USS Boise and your plans for not only 
the USS Boise to actually get it through dry dock, but those 
other Los Angeles-class attack subs that are behind it in line. 
Right now we do not have the shipbuilding capacity to be able 
to get those back in operation in less time than what it took 
to build them in the first place.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator King, please?
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    First, I would like to associate myself with Senator 
Rounds' questions on spectrum and the answers that you have 
provided. This is a critical issue. There is no reason to move 
forward with a spectrum auction before this study is completed. 
I think there is a significant national security risk.
    Second, before beginning my questions I want to compliment 
General Berger. A friend of mine once said everybody is for 
progress, nobody is for change. You have managed both progress 
and change in a remarkable way, I think, during your 3 years as 
Commandant and I want to compliment you on that because it is 
not easy to move a large institution. You have done it with a 
very forward thinking way of looking at the future demands on 
the Marine Corps and you have done that very effectively.
    Mr. Secretary, we have talked about this before. I am 
concerned about the transition from the DDG Flight III to the 
DDG(x), which is currently in design. Number one, are you 
supportive of the joint work that is being done by Bath Iron 
Works and Huntington Ingalls to be sure that the design is 
buildable and will be most effective for the Navy and for the 
taxpayers?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, Senator. Not only am I supportive but it 
is actually critical to success for the DDG(X) and it is part 
of the reason why we actually have moved the schedule 2 years 
to allow for a far more mature design and allow the shipyards 
to actually work closely with us to determine exactly not just 
the propulsion plant and what it should look like but to 
actually build out a land-based engineering site that we could 
actually test the propulsion plant at. As well as the many 
other technologies--advanced technologies--like Helios and 
others that it will actually provide in the future.
    Senator King. You used the right word, maturity of design, 
because as I have sat through 10 years of hearings on weapon 
systems, maturity of design is one of the key factors to 
prevent a debacle in terms of acquisition, both in terms of 
time and cost.
    Also we need to be thinking now about the transition from 
the Flight IIIs to the new ship, that there not be a lag. You 
have seen me draw the graph of the trough in employment if we 
do not have a smooth transition. I hope that is in your plan.
    Mr. Del Toro. I could not agree with you more, Senator. I 
think continuing to build DDG-51 Flight IIIs is critical to 
ensuring that we do not have a gap like we are trying to 
prevent between the Ohio and the Columbia-class.
    Senator King. The issue of suicide has come up several 
times. There is an aspect of it that has not been discussed 
today. That is the relationship between the transition from 
Active Duty to veteran status and suicide.
    Unfortunately, there is a correlation. Many suicides of 
veterans take place in the first 1 or 2 or 3 years after the 
transition.
    I hope that we can work together and perhaps discuss 
offline how we can improve that transition--the handoff, if you 
will--so that a sailor does not walk out the door 1 day in the 
warm embrace of the Navy, and then suddenly into the cold world 
without the handoff to the veteran status. So will you commit 
to working with me on that?
    Mr. Del Toro. Absolutely, Senator, and continuity of care 
is essential to that transition.
    Senator King. Admiral Gilday, I think I asked you a similar 
question when you were first up for confirmation about 
hypersonics and we will take this in a classified setting.
    But a general question is are you satisfied with where we 
area in terms of naval defense to a hypersonic attack? It seems 
to me that is one of the most serious strategic challenges that 
we face today, particularly in the Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, no, I am not. We are working to close 
some known gaps that we have with respect to layered defense. 
Some of the biggest obstacles are technology, including mature 
technology, that would be--that we would be able to apply to 
the--to that problem set.
    I think another aspect of it is being able to confuse and 
disrupt the adversary's ability to accurately target and use 
those weapons effectively. In a classified setting, sir, I 
think we can talk about that in a little bit more detail.
    Senator King. Well, I am glad you started with the 
question--the answer was no because that implies we have work 
to do.
    Admiral Gilday. We do.
    Senator King. I will look forward to working with you and 
your successor. I hope you will pass that sense of urgency on 
to your successor.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. I shall.
    Senator King. I will have another couple of questions for 
the record on some manpower issues.
    Mr. Secretary, I commend you for the work you have done in 
terms of helping our shipyards with their workforce challenges. 
It sounds mundane but things like parking and childcare 
availability is important to having the workers that we need to 
build the next generation of ships, whether they be submarines 
or destroyers or frigates or amphibs.
    Please keep that work in mind. Workforce, in my view, is 
maybe one of the most significant challenges that we have 
today.
    Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King.
    Senator Ernst, please?
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and thank you, 
gentlemen, very much for being here today. Admiral and General, 
thank you so much for your service and dedication to our great 
United States of America and to your families and your 
teammates as well. Truly appreciate them for their support.
    China's military has raised the risk of great power war and 
our combat credibility, especially as we look at the Indo-
Pacific, is increasingly in question and that is why Congress 
has really called on the Department to build our lethal 
capabilities to deter China.
    General Berger, I would like to start with you. The late 
Chairman, John McCain, had declared that, quote, ``The Marine 
Corps must modernize itself for the deterrence of great power 
competitors,'' end quote. We all know there has been a lot of 
debate surrounding modernization efforts within the Marine 
Corps. How did this Committee's intent inform your vision for 
the future force?
    General Berger. Probably, first, I would start with when 
Senator McCain said that and 4 years ago the Marine Corps very 
ready to handle the problem sets of today, right now.
    In fact, if we had the capacity we would have a Marine 
Expeditionary Unit--an Amphibious Ready Group off the coast of 
Africa right now so that if Sudan got worse that General 
Langley would have a number of options.
    I think readiness in terms of handling the problem sets of 
today was not the issue. But the National Defense Strategy, the 
indicators in the intelligence community, the developments in 
technology were a clear indicator to General Neller before me 
that we had to change. Holding on to what we had that was 
successful in the past was not going to help us in the future.
    To your point, I think the indicators from this Committee, 
the support from individual Members and collectively, that has 
allowed us in 3\1/2\-years to get to where we are. We are very 
ready today but we cannot slow down.
    We have to move quickly to stay in front. We have a pacing 
threat. We have a pacing challenge.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, we do, and, General, you shared your 
predecessor's assessment that the marines were not organized, 
trained, equipped, or postured to meet the demands of the 
rapidly evolving future operating environment and you just 
referenced that.
    How do your investments meet operating requirements in the 
Indo-Pacific specifically?
    General Berger. Some of it is the weapon systems 
themselves, the capabilities. Everything from the MV-22, which 
this Committee and others saved from death 25 years ago and 
thank God we have it right now. The 53K [CH-53K], the anti-ship 
missile capability that we're developing and all this were 
years in the making.
    I think in the Pacific the challenges that Admiral Aquilino 
and his commanders face are range and it is a home game for the 
PLAN [People's Liberation Army-Navy]. So we have a couple of 
challenges out there.
    We have to be present. We have to be the stand-in force 
there from the beginning, because fighting your way in from the 
outside not a good plan. We have to work on the logistics so 
that that forward stand-in force is sustainable, is ready. You 
have to be there with allies and partners because they have to 
believe that the United States is not running away from them, 
is going to be there even when things get tough, and that is 
where the Marine Corps-Navy [team]--I mean, this is where we 
make our money. Right alongside the allies and partners forward 
where it matters. If we back off, if we pull out of there, we 
are sending a message strategically, which is not the message 
we are going to send.
    Senator Ernst. You have outlined a number of gaps that 
exist logistically, support and working with other nations. Are 
there other gaps that you can address specifically within the 
Marine Corps?
    General Berger. The biggest one is what most of the Members 
brought up, which is the capacity to get us there, to have that 
presence forward all the time.
    If we do not have the vessels, if we are not forward and we 
are in the United States and we are fighting our way to get in, 
bad place to be. I think if you still believe, in other words, 
that 3 ships--amphibious ships loaded up with 2,300 marines. If 
they have a deterrent value, and I think they do, then you want 
them right in the adversary's grill, right in their face where 
they can see them all the time.
    Senator Cotton asked basically can we afford conventional 
deterrence. Absolutely, yes, because the alternative is a lot 
worse.
    Senator Ernst. Are you managing that near-term risk as you 
divest from some of the legacy programs that you have?
    General Berger. Absolutely, yes. Absolutely, yes, ma'am.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. Thank you very much, gentlemen. Thank 
you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Kelly, please?
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank 
you for being here.
    My first question is to General Berger. First of all, thank 
you for all the incredible work that is happening in southern 
Arizona at the Marine Corps Air Station in Yuma. It is home to 
the, as you know, the largest F-35 command in the Marine Corps.
    It is also the home of the weapons and tactics instructor 
corps so it is helping train F-35 pilots in the Marine Corps 
across the country, essentially.
    But also across our entire State we have got other flying 
missions. We have got Luke Air Force Base, Davis-Monthan. We 
are training F-16 pilots and operational squadrons and A-10's, 
Air Force F-35s. We have got the Compass Call mission at Davis-
Monthan with C-130's, soon to be getting a new airframe.
    Helicopters, UAVs, we got all this--a lot of stuff and it 
is the greatest place in the country to train. I am not being 
parochial here on it being Arizona. I mean, it really has good 
weather to train these missions.
    What we are struggling with right now a little bit is 
airspace. We have got a lot of airspace. We got the Barry 
Goldwater Range. We have got Military Operations Areas (MOAs), 
Outlaw, Jackal, other MOAs. We have got a restricted area over 
Fort Huachuca.
    General, I am interested from your perspective, the 
perspective of the Marine Corps, how would expanded airspace in 
the Southwest improve DOD's ability to support fifth-generation 
fighter aircraft training?
    General Berger. Senator, sitting behind me is my wife and 
she is probably smiling because we took our family to Yuma, 
Arizona. We lived there for 3 years, raised our kids there. So 
everything that you describe we lived when we had kids that 
were younger. It was a great place to raise a family.
    It is also a fantastic place to train. You mentioned the 
weapons and tactics instructor course. That is what my 
assignment was. I am an infantry guy so, first of all, getting 
invited to teach at an aviation school I thought they had made 
a mistake.
    But off I went to Yuma and learned more about combined 
arms, Marine Air-Ground Task Force, how we fight, than any 
other assignment I have ever been in. Airspace is critical. 
Without that you cannot put all the pieces together, and it was 
a box that we operated in in the 1990's when I was an 
instructor there but we did not have the range of the weapon 
systems we have now.
    We did not have the speed and range of the aircraft we have 
now. If we cannot stretch the legs of the F-35, of the Multiple 
Launch Rocket System (MLRS), if we cannot use the airspace to 
the maximum degree of the weapon system, then the first time 
the marines are going to employ it is in combat and that is not 
what we want.
    So absolutely critical, both altitude and depth of the 
Barry Goldwater ranges and the rest, as you mentioned. If we do 
not have that then we are putting our air crews, our ground 
marines, in a risk because the first time they are going to 
really put all the pieces together is when the fighting starts.
    Senator Kelly. Yes. As you mentioned, as the stick gets 
bigger the airplane is going faster, the Advanced Medium Range 
Air to Air Missile (AMRAAM) is going further. We need more 
space. We can stitch together some of this space, by the way. 
That is something we have talked about in Arizona is we have an 
opportunity here with the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) 
reauthorization bill. Talk to the FAA, come up with a plan that 
works for commercial aviation, works for the airline industry, 
but also helps us train better.
    Now, I think Senator Sullivan, if he goes next, he is 
probably going to jump in here and talk about the airspace in 
Alaska. But this is really important and the weather is ideal 
for this training.
    General Berger. Just one quick plug for the FAA. They have 
been fantastic partners for 35 years, handing off airspace 
between LAX [Los Angeles International Airport] and Twentynine 
Palms and Yuma. Great partners.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you, General.
    Secretary Del Toro, just real quick. I know Senator Kaine 
talked about the Brandon Act. I really appreciate all the hard 
work you have done on this.
    We need to get it implemented. We discussed a little bit 
about this from a more personal side this morning. Can you just 
give me a really quick--and I do not have a lot of time--but a 
status update. How is the Navy working with DOD to make this a 
reality and what specific actions have you taken to support 
implementation?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator.
    Well, for starters, I have personally met with the Caserta 
family to understand the challenges that they have undergone, 
and what they would like to see moving forward in terms of the 
Department of Navy and the Department of Defense being able to 
work with families like the Caserta family as they struggle 
with this tragic incident.
    I believe it has to be with--we have to get to a better 
place with regards to executing the right of individuals to be 
able to seek out help from the private sector privately but at 
the same time with the checks and balances necessary so that 
the military also understands the struggles that this 
individual may be facing because if we do not understand the 
struggles that they are facing then that presents even greater 
threats as well, too, to operations and also to the individuals 
themselves.
    We have to find that right balance between those two needs 
in order to get to a better place and those are the discussions 
that I have had with the Department of Defense.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I know we are over. Can I make just 
one quick comment?
    Senator Kelly. Yes. Yes.
    Admiral Gilday. The Department issued a mental health 
playbook and so for sailors and marines one of the things it 
does is it helps them. It raises their awareness of what 
options are available and there are already self-referral and 
confidential options that are available.
    We still have work to do as the Secretary is working on to 
make this more holistic across the Force. But we have made 
investments and we are trying to head in the right direction in 
order to make that available.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Admiral. Thank you, Mr. 
Secretary, and thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Sullivan, please?
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    I would like to thank the witnesses, in particular Admiral 
Gilday, General Berger. Thank you for your incredible service 
and to your families over decades. It is very appreciated. I 
have enjoyed working with both of you.
    I am going to dig into this 31 amphib ship issue a lot more 
harshly because I just do not think what is happening right now 
is remotely appropriate.
    Mr. Chairman, I would like to submit for the record a 
Defense One news article ``Navy on the path to violate 31 
amphib ship requirement in 2024'' for the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information referred to follows:]
Defense One
March 13, 2023

 Navy On Path To Violate 31-Amphibious-Ship Requirement in 2024

By Caitlin Kenney

    The Navy is proposing to drop its amphibious fleet below 31 
ships, despite an agreement with the Marine Corps and a 
potential violation of last year's defense policy law.
    Sent to Congress on Monday, the Navy's proposed $255.8 
billion 2024 budget aims to retire eight warships before the 
end of their intended service life, including three Whidbey 
Island-class dock landing ships, or LSDs, that it proposed to 
scrap last year but which were saved by the 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act.
    The Navy's $32.8 billion shipbuilding request buys nine 
battle force ships but no amphibs, including the San Antonio-
class amphibious transport dock ships, or LPDs, that are meant 
to replace the LSDs.
    The LSDs chosen for early retirement were found to be in 
``poor material condition,'' according to Defense Department 
budget slides.
    ``We've gone through, not only on LSDs but the other 
divestments proposed in this budget, did a ship-by-ship review, 
to understand the material State of each of the ships. What we 
found on the LSDs is that they are challenged in terms of 
readiness. We want to make sure that the capabilities that we 
field are the right capabilities, and are able to perform the 
mission to the standards that we expect,'' Navy Undersecretary 
Erik Raven told reporters ahead of the proposed budget's 
release.
    ``And so we're proposing those divestments because we think 
the return on investment, on further investments on those 
particular ships, as judged hull by hull, that return on 
investment is not there,'' Raven said. ``Additionally, say that 
we have sailors and marines who are serving on these ships, we 
think that getting them matched up to the right platforms is 
the way to go.''
    Marine Corps Commandant General David Berger last week 
rejected any plans that would cut these aging LSDs before their 
replacements were delivered.
    Despite the delivery of one LPD in 2024, the early 
retirement of the three LSDs would mean the total number of 
amphibs that year would drop below the legally required 31 
ships minimum laid out in the 2023 NDAA, according to the 
budget documents. Raven told reporters that the Navy is not 
seeking a waiver at this time.
    It was a surprise that the Navy ``has thumbed its nose that 
defiantly to the Congress'' after lawmakers supported the ship 
minimum last year, said a congressional staffer who spoke to 
Defense One on condition of anonymity. ``So what the Navy has 
done with this budget is they took all of those signals and all 
those indications and warnings, if you will, from the Congress 
and--said you know, `Thanks, but no thanks, we're going to do 
what we think what we ought to be doing, and we don't really 
care what the Congress has to say on this subject.' ''
    Berger on Monday reiterated the reasoning behind the 31-
ship requirement for amphibs.
    ``Anything less incurs risk to national defense by limiting 
the options for our combatant commanders,'' he said in a 
statement to Defense One. ``Per strategic guidance, the Marine 
Corps must be able to provide the Nation with crisis response 
capabilities and build partnerships with allies and partners in 
support of integrated deterrence--difficult to achieve without 
the requisite number of amphibious warships.''
    The requirement is linked to the Nation's defense, said 
Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., and ranking member of the Senate 
Armed Services Committee, at the March 9 Amphibious Warship 
Industrial Base Coalition event on Capitol Hill.
    ``We cannot defend this Nation, we cannot do what we need 
to do to prevent war, to prevent war, without the 31 ships,'' 
Wicker said. ``And so the National Defense Authorization Act--
makes it clear that the Commandant of the Marine Corps is the 
one we're finally going to listen to in terms of our ship 
requirement.''
    This year's 30-year shipbuilding plan, and what it may say 
about the long-term future of these ships, will be released 
``very soon,'' Raven told reporters ahead of the budget roll 
out.

                          Procurement

    The Navy budget documents also chart out the ship 
procurements from 2024 to 2028, and there are a lot of zeros in 
the amphibious fleet's future. The Navy plans to buy its next 
America-class amphibious assault ship or LHA in 2027 and does 
not plan to buy any San Antonio-class LPD 17 Flight IIs in any 
of the years listed.
    The shipbuilding topline includes new ship construction as 
well as funds for other vessels like the Landing Craft, Air 
Cushion (LCAC) Service Life Extension Program and the Landing 
Craft Utility LCU 1700 class.
    The future Landing Ship Medium or LSM, is still planned for 
2025. However, that is already 2 years past the original plan 
to buy the first ship in 2023. The Marine Corps just started to 
experiment with a commercially leased ship to inform the LSM's 
future capabilities.
    Last month, Navy Secretary Carlos Del Toro said the service 
is taking a ``strategic pause'' on buying more LPDs until 
additional studies are completed, Defense News reported. 
Afterward, the Navy would ``probably'' start buying them again, 
according to the report.
    On Monday, Raven told reporters at the Pentagon that the 
office of the Secretary of Defense had directed the pause and a 
capabilities-based assessment, and that there is an 
``integrated team'' to assess the ships.
    ``What we are making sure that we are doing as we move 
forward with our budget plans, is making sure that we have the 
right capabilities at the right price aligned to not only 
meeting military requirements, but working with industry,'' 
Raven said. ``And for LPD, we're taking a look at the 
acquisition strategy moving forward, again, to make sure that 
we would have the right capabilities at the right price and 
working with industry partners to put together that plan moving 
forward.''
    The Navy has ``time to get this right'' with the LPD, and 
that the Navy and Marine Corps are ``fundamentally aligned'' on 
the 31-ship requirement, Rear Adm. John Gumbleton, the deputy 
assistant secretary of the Navy for budget, said Monday.
    ``Both service chiefs like 31 [ships] as a requirement. 
Both service chiefs like multiyear procurements. Both service 
chiefs want to buy in a predictable future. And so if we can do 
a study and actually lower the costs of this, that's all to the 
good of the Department of the Navy and Marine Corps,'' 
Gumbleton said.
    Buying amphibious ships tends to be the last priority for 
the Navy after spending shipbuilding funds on aircraft 
carriers, submarines, and destroyers, Hudson Institute Senior 
Fellow Bryan Clark said March 9 during Defense One's State of 
the Navy event.
    ``Whatever gets left over is what can go toward the 
amphibious ships and the support ships. And when you do all the 
numbers for that, you always end up with you know maybe not 
quite enough for the amphibious ships, because if you're 
building one LHA every four or 5 years that you can 
incrementally fund, that's a chunk of money that's on the scale 
of you know, $500 million a year. And then you've got maybe 
$500 million or a billion dollars leftover for one more 
amphibious ship, which isn't quite an LPD,'' Clark said.

    Senator Sullivan. The 30-year plan makes it clear that the 
Navy has no intention of meeting this statutory requirement. 
Last year the Congress of the United States, there was an 
amendment that I worked on personally with the Commandant. Got 
this in the law. It is the law. Let me read the law.
    ``The naval combat forces of the Navy shall include not 
less than 11 operational aircraft carriers and not less than 31 
operational amphibious warfare ships of which not less than 10 
shall be amphibious assault ships.''
    That is the law. We passed that. I want to compliment the 
Commandant. It is not easy to be sitting next to your boss 
saying we need this, we need this, we need this. Your boss, 
obviously, does not agree, General.
    But here is the thing. There has been these discussions of 
balancing costs, another CAPE [Cost Assessment and Program 
Evaluation] study that is going to come out in June 2023 for 
the fiscal year 2025 budget on amphib requirements. That is 
irrelevant.
    The Congress of the United States did the balancing, Mr. 
Secretary, working with the Marine Corps. It was unanimous, by 
the way, in this Committee. You are violating the law.
    Would you come before this Committee and say, sorry, we are 
not going to do 11 carriers? No way. You would get your you 
know what handed to you. You cannot do it, sir. I find it 
simply unacceptable that we are all just letting you say maybe 
that was a suggestion by the Congress. It was not a suggestion. 
It was a mandate.
    Mr. Secretary, I would like to just ask you right off the 
bat. Why are you violating the law? Why does your shipbuilding 
plan have no remote interest, for the next 30 years, as far as 
I can tell, of hitting the statutory mandate that we told you 
to hit? I have no idea what your answer is going to be. But you 
need to follow the law, sir. What is the answer?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, as a member of the executive, it is 
my responsibility to follow the law.
    Senator Sullivan. Yes.
    Mr. Del Toro. It is also my responsibility to ensure that 
we just do not waste taxpayer money on vessels, for example, 
that will never see the light of day----
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. Let me ask you on that one. This 
Congress has given you multi-ship procurement authorities, past 
three NDAAs. This is the third year in a row that amphibs are 
not being procured with this cost-saving authority.
    So it is a little rich when you tell me about taxpayer 
savings when you are not using the ability to save money that 
we gave you on amphibs. You use it for every other ship but not 
amphibs.
    So I am not really buying the taxpayer argument because you 
are not using that authority. What is your answer to the issue 
that you are not following the law? What I am going to ask for 
a request on, because I am running out of time. I am requesting 
you come back to this Committee soon and tell us how you are 
going to follow the law.
    That is your only option, Mr. Secretary. Another CAPE 
study? We did the study. We told you what to do and you need to 
do it. The Commandant agrees with us. This Committee agrees 
with us.
    So what is your answer to this question? You are violating 
the law right now, and your shipbuilding plan looks to say, 
hey, we are going to violate the law for the next 30 years. 
That is totally unacceptable.
    In my view, you have not been hit hard enough by Members of 
this Committee. You are ignoring us. Worse, you are ignoring 
the law. What is your answer to that? I do want your commitment 
to come back here with a statement on how you are going to fix 
this.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, you have my commitment that I will 
come back to you with a statement on how we can fix this. I 
think----
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    Mr. Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed 
to ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely 
manner, but with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes 
that will support our marines and sailors for decades to come. 
On June 19, 2023, I committed to implementing the law requiring 
31 amphibious ships, and I commit to providing an updated 
shipbuilding plan in support of the President's Fiscal Year 
2025 Budget, which explains this strategy.

    Senator Sullivan. And follow the law.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, sir. It is my intent to follow the law 
and I hope that, hopefully, by the President's Budget 2025 
submission we will be able to be back in place with a multiyear 
procurement that actually looks at----
    Senator Sullivan. Not looks at. That is not your option. We 
looked at it.
    Mr. Del Toro. Like I said, sir, as we develop the 
President's Budget 2025 I will look at that as an option that 
we can pursue to get us back on track with multi-ship 
procurements for LPDs.
    Senator Sullivan. It is not an option for you, Mr. 
Secretary. The Committee, the Congress, the President have 
spoken.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is a big issue and right now 
with the Secretary of the Navy ignoring the Congress of the 
United States is unacceptable.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan.
    Senator Shaheen, please?
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you all 
for being here this morning. I am sorry I missed much of the 
questioning. We have multiple hearings at the same time.
    I would like to also echo the Chairman and Ranking Member's 
comments about you, Admiral Gilday and General Berger, and the 
service that we all very much appreciate.
    Secretary Del Toro, I was really pleased to see that the 
Navy included several new funding options for childcare 
centers. I think each one of you talked about the quality of 
life and the importance of ensuring that we can maintain those 
people who join our military and childcare is one of those 
areas where it is absolutely critical.
    In New Hampshire we were able to have a joint effort 
between the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard and the New Hampshire 
National Guard to put a joint childcare center on, but one of 
the big challenge just has been recruiting teachers.
    Can you speak, Secretary Del Toro, to what more the Navy is 
looking at in terms of recruitment for teachers within our 
childcare facilities? Or Admiral Gilday, either one.
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes, ma'am. I will just be brief and then 
pass it to the admiral.
    One of the initiatives that we are looking actually is to 
be able to provide those childcare providers the ability to 
save costs on the children if they have children themselves.
    We allow up to 50 percent reduction, for example, in 
childcare costs so that they can actually have their own 
children at the childcare center as well, too, in addition to 
trying to increase the pay for those childcare providers as 
well.
    Admiral Gilday. Exactly. On the pay piece we are paying 
above minimum--above the--I am sorry, above the average 
national wage for childcare center workers, about $5 above the 
median.
    Second, we have reached out to a couple of schools in Texas 
and Utah, particularly during peak months where they are having 
students come in and help us in those childcare centers as 
well, and they are being adequately compensated for that help.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I applaud any efforts that you can 
undertake that will improve our ability to provide childcare 
for the men and women in the military.
    One of the things I learned as Governor when we were trying 
to address childcare in New Hampshire was that the military was 
the role model for the private sector on this issue and we need 
to see that continue.
    Secretary Del Toro, I think you mentioned AUKUS in your 
opening comments and I wonder if--it is my understanding one of 
the challenges that we have had is the challenging framework 
that exists for sharing information and technology about our 
capabilities.
    Can you speak to whether we are able to do that through 
AUKUS right now. What changes do we need to make in order to 
provide that sharing that is really going to make that compact 
work as it should?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, when it actually comes to sharing of 
the nuclear-powered technology for the submarine itself there 
have--it has not been a challenge necessarily. It is actually 
in the other areas in terms of AI [artificial intelligence] and 
machine learning and other technologies where we actually have 
to get to a better place with regards to being able to share 
that technology with our international partners.
    CNO, would you comment a little bit more on that, too?
    Admiral Gilday. On the second pillar?
    Mr. Del Toro. Yes.
    Admiral Gilday. One of the things that AUKUS has done is it 
has really opened up the blinders in terms of our collaboration 
with both the U.K. and Australia and their industry in areas 
like quantum computing, AI capabilities.
    We are already doing a lot of that with both of those 
countries in the submarine force but this will accelerate it in 
terms of investment by private individuals as well, by equity 
firms that are seeing the progress that we are making in those 
specific areas.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, I would encourage us to continue 
that. Obviously, if we cannot make something like AUKUS work 
with our closest partners we are going to have challenges 
across the board.
    General Berger, I think several times when you have been 
before this Committee I have asked you about the ability of the 
Marine Corps to recruit women--recruit and retain women, and I 
understand that in fiscal year 2022 the Marine Corps was able 
to recruit a slightly higher percentage of women than in the 
past.
    But can you talk about what the biggest obstacles are to 
that recruitment and also to retention of women once they get 
into the Marine Corps?
    General Berger. The first obstacle, I think, was not having 
any role models in most of the fields in the Marine Corps where 
they got promoted to colonel and general. In other words, they 
could not go into combat arms until 2015, so they did not see 
anybody at the top that was representing them except in 
administrative sort of staff fields.
    But the Marine Corps is a warfighting organization. I think 
now they are seeing role models in aviation and infantry that 
were not there 6, 7 years ago.
    That is a huge plus. Right now we have an infantry officer 
school just like the Army does. We have three female 
lieutenants in the course right now. Five years ago there were 
none.
    We have female enlisted marines that are in the infantry 
course in both coasts--in the East Coast and West Coast. We 
have them in infantry battalions now that are mortarmen. These 
were not even thinkable things 5, 6, 7 years ago.
    So, first of all, I think it has produced--make sure that 
we advance the ones who can serve as role models. I think the 
initiatives that Congress has given us in the last few years 
have helped a lot, being able to opt out of promotion.
    If it is not the right time in my family career can I just 
step out of promotion and then come back in without a penalty? 
Yes, you can. Can I ask to step out of command, not be 
considered for command? Sure. Can I take an intermission from 
my career? I want to do something for a couple of years and 
come back in without any penalties.
    All these are provisions that Congress has given us, which 
are now, I think, becoming more and more useful. We changed a 
policy last year, where dual military people--which are more 
prevalent now, I think, than they were a decade ago--for us to 
assign them to different duty stations, it takes a general 
officer to approve that now. So we are making it better for 
females to stay, and raise a family, and have it all instead of 
making a choice, and I think over the next 10 or 15 years if 
recruiting continues like it is right now. I mean, in a decade 
we have 85 percent more female aviators now than we did 10 
years ago--85 percent.
    Last month, Colonel Nicole Mann, she came back from the 
International Space Station. She is a jet pilot, test pilot, 
astronaut, mission commander. These are the kind of role models 
that we need.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Tuberville, please?
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, 
thanks for being here today and your sacrifice and your 
families' sacrifice. We know how tough that is.
    You know, guys, I am proud of our Navy and I want to talk a 
little bit about team building and recruiting. Americans are 
proud of their Navy. Outside of ports like Norfolk and San 
Diego many Americans do not see the work that your sailors do. 
They do not see it.
    The Navy's work is often unseen, it is far from our shores. 
Even the Navy's history like the Midway and Manila Bay it is 
hard to see. So to recruit new sailors you must tell the Navy's 
story to both internal and external audiences. It has got to be 
told.
    Today we have more ships named for politicians and 
activists than we do for great Navy battles and heroes of our 
past. We have a USS Carl Vinson but no USS Enterprise.
    We have the USS John P. Murtha but where is the Yorktown? 
New sailors should be on USS ships like the Wasp, the Midway, 
the Vengeance, or the Intrepid.
    Mr. Secretary, you were the commander of the DDG-84 who was 
named after who, sir?
    Mr. Del Toro. John Duncan Bulkeley, Senator.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, sir, and he was a Medal of Honor 
winner, and I know you were proud to serve on that ship. When 
he was asked about charging two German ships when he had only 
one working gun, Admiral Bulkeley said, quote, ``What else 
could I do? You engage, you fight, you win. That is the 
reputation of our great Navy.''
    Mr. Secretary, in your capacity to name ships I hope in the 
future that we get back to naming ships after heroes, people 
that has actually done something. Now, we have had politicians 
that has been in the military before and I understand that. But 
our history is told through our battleships and the things that 
we put names on.
    Our sailors need to hear and see all these stories instead 
of divide us. Sometimes they do divide us. This week many of us 
watched the video that has gone viral online of a young Navy 
lieutenant JG. I have a lot of problems with this video. This 
nonbinary officer said the highlight of her deployment on the 
USS Gerald Ford was reading a poem to the entire ship.
    Admiral Gilday, have you seen this video?
    Admiral Gilday. I have.
    Senator Tuberville. I hope we train our officers to 
prioritize their sailors, not themselves. Did it surprise you 
that a junior officer says the highlight of her deployment, her 
first and the ship's first, was about herself and her own 
achievement?
    Admiral Gilday. I will tell you why I am particularly proud 
of this sailor. Her grandfather served during World War II and 
he was gay and he was ostracized in the very institution that 
she not only joined and is proud to be a part of, but she 
volunteered to deploy on Ford and she will likely deploy again 
next month when Ford goes back to sea.
    Sir, we ask people from all over the country, from all 
walks of life, from all different backgrounds to join us and 
then it is the job of a commanding officer to build a cohesive 
warfighting team that is going to follow the law and the law 
requires that we be able to conduct prompt sustained operations 
at sea.
    That level of trust that a commanding officer develops 
across that unit has to be grounded on dignity and respect, and 
so if that officer can lawfully join the United States Navy, is 
willing to serve and willing to take the same oath that you and 
I took to put their life on the line, then I am proud to serve 
aside them.
    Senator Tuberville. Admiral, I agree with that. I do not 
care who you are as long as you join our military to fight for 
the freedom of our country and protect our country.
    The problem that I am having is the obsession with race, 
gender, sex. It is focused on self. It is not focused on team, 
and if we do not start building a team, we have no chance to 
win individually in this country. We have no chance.
    Everybody else is building, and to do a poem with all the 
8,000 other people on this ship and to focus on herself--and do 
not get me wrong. Her uncle or whoever that fought--hey, my dad 
died in the military. Okay. I am all for that.
    But I am all for building a machine. We do not--our 
recruiting is suffering. We do not need to have another Bud 
Lite moment. I mean, we do not need to have a Bud Lite moment 
in the Navy.
    I mean, we have to build a killing and fighting machine, 
and it just concerns me that we do all these things and we 
focus on one thing, one person. We are all Americans. That is 
what we are and I hope as admirals and generals and people, 
secretaries, that we start pushing Americans first. Not a 
gender, not a race, not nationality.
    We all got to come together. If we do not we have zero 
chance, because this is not the country we used to have. This 
is not the military we used to have and we have got to get out 
of that rut of saying we are individuals.
    We are not individuals. We are the best country on the face 
of the earth and the best military, the United States of 
America.
    Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville.
    Senator Blumenthal, please?
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you all for 
being here and for your service to our Nation.
    Admiral Gilday and Commandant Berger, thank you 
particularly and your families for your extraordinary service 
over many years.
    I want to just take a moment to tell my colleagues about a 
bill that I introduced along with Senator Sullivan to 
commemorate the United States Marine Corps' 250 years in a 
commemorative coin to mark this important milestone.
    I am really grateful to my colleague, Senator Sullivan, to 
join with me in this tangible reminder of the Marine Corps' 
contributions to our Nation and I hope all my colleagues on the 
Committee will join us in this legislation.
    It may seem symbolic but symbols often tell an important 
story, particularly, Commandant, in a time when the Force 
Design 2030 has created issues within the Corps. This kind of 
point of solidarity, I think, can be important.
    Admiral Gilday, I want to come back to the questions raised 
by the Chairman about accountability on the USS George 
Washington. I was in the briefing that we received and I have 
no question that you and the briefers and our top command in 
the Navy are deeply concerned about those three suicides.
    But what I heard in that briefing was that phase one did 
not address accountability. Phase two did not have it as a 
specific topic, but that accountability might emerge somehow 
from phase two.
    I would like your assurance that accountability, that is, 
holding responsible anyone in command who knew or should have 
known about the desperate straits of those three sailors will 
be at least named and held accountable in some way.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir. I know that you understand--
everybody does--how complicated death by suicide can be and the 
number of factors that can be involved, and I am in no way 
trying to be evasive on this issue. I take personal ownership 
for some of the failures that we saw in Norfolk and other 
places that we are currently correcting.
    That said, in any specific investigation and the Navy has 
relieved 15 commanding officers over the past 12 months for 
various reasons. We have to connect those actions directly to 
the findings, to the facts, of those investigations.
    I commit to you, sir, that we will look very closely to 
that and come back to you.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. We are at the 1-year anniversary of the 
death of one of those sailors. Master of Arms Seaman recruit 
Xavier Mitchell-Sandor, and I want to suggest that one way to 
alleviate--and I know you are taking steps on the USS Stennis 
to alleviate some of those issues that were involved in those 
suicides, maybe to procure housing on the open market when 
ships are in maintenance for many years using the BAH [Base 
Allowance for Housing], a bigger topic for further 
consideration.
    Secretary Del Toro, we all have seen the recent leaks of 
classified documents that are so deeply alarming, appalling, 
and that show Americans how many members of our military have 
such wide access to top secret documents.
    I wonder if you are considering measures that might 
restrict access, particularly on the part of junior members of 
the military in the Navy, for example, to classified documents.
    I have been a longtime advocate of declassifying documents 
that do not need to be kept secret. But at the same time maybe 
we ought to be looking at who has access to those documents 
that truly have to be kept secret to protect vital information 
and sources and methods.
    Mr. Del Toro. Well, thank you, Senator. We very much are 
and the Department of the Navy and throughout the Department of 
Defense. The Secretary of Defense just this morning actually 
has requested a 45-day review of security clearances and 
accesses across the Department and so we will be looking at 
this issue very, very carefully.
    As you know, on the one hand you have the desire to be able 
to share more intelligence information with our allies and 
partners and that presents risks, obviously. On the other hand 
there is a need to actually protect the secrets that we do have 
and so it is a bit of a dual-edged sword.
    But we have to do better across the Department to ensure 
that we keep it to only those that really need the intelligence 
in order to be able to fulfill their responsibilities and their 
duties, both substantively and administratively as well.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you. Thank you all. Thanks, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Blumenthal.
    Senator Budd, please?
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and again, thank you 
all for being here. Thank you, each of you, for your service.
    General Berger, a common criticism of Force Design 2030 is 
that the Marine Corps has depleted its combat power, for 
example, by divesting of its main battle tanks and a 
significant portion of its aviation assets.
    To the extent that you can talk about it in this setting, 
can you talk about the underlying analysis and your logic to 
these divestment decisions?
    General Berger. Yes, Senator. First, the underlying 
analysis was derived from a series of wargames 5, 6 years ago, 
7 years ago, where each individual wargame was testing the 
force against the pacing challenge--pacing threat.
    In every case it was not a good outcome. So the conclusion 
there was if you do not change, the outcome is not going to 
change. That drove us toward devising, first of all, if that is 
the case, keeping our original equipment and our formations, 
everything, the same, is not going to keep up with the pacing 
challenge then what do we need to do differently and we started 
with how we are going to operate. Not equipment, but how we are 
going to fight.
    So the first step was, as the Chairman said, a more 
distributed way of operating in an expeditionary naval manner 
that fits right into the joint concept for the future concepts 
drive everything in the Marine Corps. So, first, get the 
concept right.
    Second, if that is an underlying concept that the Navy and 
Marine Corps joint force is going to operate upon, then test it 
in a series of wargames and then go out into the field and 
experiment with it, and that is exactly what has happened for 
the past 4 years.
    Senator Budd. Thank you for that. So those that are 
criticizing Force Design 2030 the simple answer, and I will let 
you fill in the blank for that, is it divestment? Is it a 
change? How would you approach the critics of Force Design 
2030?
    General Berger. This July--this summer when the president 
sends me home, that will be the last day that I get a morning 
intel report. It will be the last access I have to every bit of 
technological development that the CNO and I and the other 
services chiefs have.
    We will not have access to all of the information we need 
to develop the force anymore. My answer to the critics is 
beginning on the next day I will be the biggest supporter of 
whoever the next Commandant is because I will know he has 
information I do not and I will trust that the marines who are 
doing the experimentation out in the fleet, as long as we have 
a mechanism for feeding that back in to the headquarters of the 
Marine Corps and we make the changes, we will be fine.
    I trust that this current Commandant, past ones, future 
ones, have access to the best information available. We have 
the best process for developing the Marine Corps that fits into 
a naval construct, complements the joint force. All that I am 
very confident in.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, General.
    Admiral Gilday, much has been made about the growth of the 
Chinese navy and the need to grow the number of the United 
States ships in the fleet to meet that growing threat. I would 
like to hear from you not about the quantity of ships in their 
fleet or in our fleet but about the relative qualitative 
advantage of Navy power.
    What kind of technological advancements are we seeing from 
the Chinese and how should we be viewing this issue?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, we are watching the Chinese very 
closely, and to the Commandant's point, what we are going to 
fight with is being informed by how we are going to fight and 
that is what we are out there doing with our strike groups, 
with our amphibious ready groups, in our fleet exercises, in 
our war games, to try and refine that based on how we are 
watching China.
    There is no question our biggest asymmetric advantage is 
people. The investments we are making in live, virtual, 
constructive training, as an example, allow us to train as a 
Fleet Marine Force and as a Navy at a scope and scale that we 
could never do by getting individual ships underway, first.
    Second is we are completely revolutionizing the way we are 
training individual sailors through a framework called ready 
relevant learning where it is beyond brick and mortar 
classrooms or school houses. We are getting information to 
young sailors at the right time and the right quantity.
    With respect to--you mentioned capacity, and if I could for 
a second, sir, for the last 2 decades the Nation has been 
focused on ground wars. That has been the priority and 
understandably so.
    The investments that we are making now and, largely, due to 
the support of this Committee, we have 56 ships in construction 
across 7 shipyards with another 77 on contract. That rudder 
turns the ship of the United States Navy very slowly but we are 
really trying to get after that capacity issue as well.
    In the modernization investments that we are making we have 
increased--if you take a look at our operations and 
modernization accounts we are up 5 percent from where we were 
last year, a total of $11 billion, and much of that is going 
into readiness.
    I mentioned in my opening statement we are funding 
maintenance at 100 percent. We are investing in new submarines, 
expanding the amount of missile tubes. We are improving 
torpedoes that they fire. With surface ships we are giving them 
longer range weapons, both Tomahawks and defensive weapons.
    We are investing in the electronic warfare capabilities. We 
are investing in the weapons, doing multiyear buys of weapons, 
that our aviators fire from their F-35s and their Super 
Hornets. We are trying to wherever we can buy down risk and 
close on vulnerabilities so that we can pace China instead of 
trying to follow them.
    Senator Budd. Very good. Thank you all.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd.
    For the information of my colleagues, the vote has started 
and, of course, at the conclusion of this open hearing we will 
go into a closed hearing in SVC 217.
    With that, Senator Duckworth, you are recognized.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
say thank you--a deep and profound thank you to both Admiral 
Gilday and General Berger, to you and your families for your 
extraordinary lifetime of service to our country.
    I do want to associate myself with Senator Sullivan's 
concerns that the current Navy budget proposal significantly 
undercuts Marine Corps amphibious capabilities. In fact, I 
think it undermines Marine Corps doctrine.
    At a time when we need to be looking at the Indo-Pacific 
region and a shift toward a forward deployed island-based 
force, to cut back on LPDs in particular, I think, is a 
misjudgment. That said, I do want to talk about logistics in 
the Indo-Pacific.
    General Berger, I have appreciated your leadership among 
the Service Chiefs and recognizing the challenges posed by 
sustaining forward deployed troops in a contested logistics 
environment, particularly in the Indo-Pacific region, which is 
characterized by island formations and huge swaths of open sea. 
I have been ringing alarm bells about this problem, especially 
in a contested logistic environment, for years, not just 
because of my own experiences or because U.S. Transportation 
Command is in Illinois, but also because I truly believe that 
for the sake of our servicemembers and for the credibility of 
our deterrent we have to get this right.
    General Berger, in what ways does this year's Marine Corps 
budget request support contested logistics and how does this 
benefit the Marine Corps and how does it benefit the joint 
force?
    General Berger. We have had some long discussions on 
contested logistics. I am going to miss them.
    First of all, the structure--the laydown of where we have 
prepositioned supplies and parts and munitions and equipment 
across the Pacific, across the world, we have to relook now, 
quickly.
    It was built for a different timeframe, under a different 
set of circumstances. So where we have afloat and ashore 
prepositioning has to be revisited, has to be changed, and 
there is funding to do that. But that is going to take a 
fundamental--it is going to take a different look and some 
tough decisions in the next few years.
    A second is, I think, the platforms that we use to move 
that equipment, those supplies around. Here, the good news is 
everything from the 53K [CH-53K] to the medium landing ship to 
every other conveyance that is unmanned that the CNO is working 
on and we are working on that is going to move that around, we 
are going to need it all. It is going to be planes, trains, and 
automobiles.
    We also have to educate, train our logisticians in a 
different way, which you have talked to me about before. It is 
not business as usual for them, because it is not an 
administrative move of materials. Even the way that we contract 
has to change, because this peacetime exercise approach is not 
going to work in a conflict in a contested environment.
    Last, I would say the resilience part. If it comes to a 
conflict we are both going to--there is going to be some 
degradation across the board. How fast can we come back? That 
gets into applying the same methodology for kill webs into, as 
you pointed out before to me, logistics webs. How do we create 
logistics webs that look like kill webs?
    Senator Duckworth. I think LPDs are going to be an 
important part of that and this budget does not support the 
number of LPDs that I think that we need.
    A critical vulnerability for any military is the logistics 
tail associated with delivering operational energy to its 
fielded forces. Both our readiness and our allies' and 
partners' readiness will be bolstered by reducing our reliance 
on fossil fuels and employing more diverse and renewable 
operational energy sources, as well as seeking more creative 
and cooperative ways of supplying operational energy to U.S. 
troops and to our overseas partners.
    Secretary Del Toro, General Berger, how much could we gain 
from cooperating with our allies and partners in Europe and in 
the Indo-Pacific to improve our logistics availability and 
distribution? What efforts in your budget request work toward 
operational energy security and resilience?
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. It is an incredibly 
important topic.
    We have significantly improved, I would say, our alliances 
across the Indo-Pacific for this very nature. We are kicking 
off with Balikatan, for example, 2023 with 17,500 marines right 
now working side by side with our allies and partners.
    The ability to actually move our forces forward and provide 
the logistical bases that they need. As you know, the Secretary 
of Defense just came from the Philippines and negotiated four 
additional bases as logistics bases in the Philippines, as well 
in the north as close to Taiwan as one can possibly get.
    Providing operational energy investments to those bases is 
always critical. We have--and the Marine Corps is another 
example in Albany, Georgia, for example, where we have become 
zero dependent on outside sources for energy, for example. The 
same thing applies to Miramar in California, for example, where 
we actually have provided energy out to the local communities.
    These are all investments that are necessary. They are also 
necessary at sea as well, too. For many years biofuels have 
been very, very expensive, and it has been hard to get the 
price point of biofuels down to the point where it actually 
makes sense to be able to invest in that.
    So we have in the President's Budget commitment to continue 
in the R&D [research and development] effort that is necessary 
to try to discover that biofuel that will provide the biggest 
return on investment to our forces.
    Senator Duckworth. General Berger?
    General Berger. For us it is not as much of a money issue 
as it is an operational-tactical imperative. We cannot fly in 
batteries, fuel the way we used to. It is not going to be 
possible. It is not going to be practical.
    We have got to find other ways to power our equipment, 
vehicles, everything. There is money in the budget to do that 
but it is going to take time and your support.
    Senator Duckworth. According to DOD's own reports 50 
percent of all casualties during the war in Iraq occurred 
during convoy operations and 80 percent of all convoys were 
conducted to move fuel. We need to do better.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth.
    Let me recognize Senator Cramer and also give the gavel to 
Senator Warren while I go vote and return quickly.
    Senator Cramer, please?
    Senator Cramer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank 
you, General and Admiral, for your decades of service and 
congratulations on another good solid year ahead.
    Mr. Secretary, I am going to get right to the point with 
you. I worked with the Navy for a little better than a year and 
a half to this point, on behalf of a Navy SEAL and an officer 
who wanted to get out of his service a few months early so that 
he could pursue his next level of service--his next area of 
service in political office.
    It is pretty much over--the case--but I wanted to highlight 
it in this forum because it is really a horrible vignette of 
how the Navy, I think, far too often treats its people. I 
brought it up with you once quite a while back, with Admiral 
Gilday as well, and I will make it as brief as I can.
    Lieutenant Adam Schwarze asked in July 2021 for permission 
to run for office while serving his final few months in the 
Navy. The paperwork got lost and it took me getting involved 
for the paperwork to find its way back into the process. Then 
the CNO endorsed his request and then it was denied by you.
    Meanwhile, Lieutenant Schwarze also tried to get out using 
an old but still authorized early retirement authority. Again, 
process stopped unexplainably. But I weighed in and the process 
then continued with the commander of naval personnel endorsing 
the package, only again to be denied at your level.
    Then, from my vantage point, Mr. Secretary, began what I 
think was a witch hunt. He was called back from his SkillBridge 
assignment in Minnesota to his last assignment in Hawaii where 
he could then be punished.
    The Naval Special Warfare Group lawyers proceeded to rip 
apart his history, his dedication, and question his integrity 
with statements that literally, quote, ``call into question his 
sincerity and trustworthiness.'' I am happy to provide all of 
this for you in case your team has lost it.
    In fact, you went after this decorated hero with a veracity 
that made my staff, including a commander in the military, 
reach out to him to check his well being and reached out to the 
Navy to make sure that they were looking out for his well 
being.
    You pulled his trident and then prevented him from retiring 
on time. You did an investigation that included false 
statements about me and my connection with Lieutenant Schwarze, 
statements that seemed quite political for what is supposed to 
be an apolitical organization.
    The whole time that my office was trying to get information 
from the Navy it faced roadblocks, barriers. It was like 
pulling teeth. Then after all of that, a board of inquiry was 
held and on all counts the board voted three to zero that the 
preponderance of the evidence did not support any basis of 
misconduct. Three-zero, seven times.
    In summary, you screwed the sailor's paperwork up 
constantly, repeatedly. You made a political decision on his 
future. You tarred and feathered him out of revenge.
    A board of inquiry unanimously absolved him of all charges. 
You held him past his retirement date until the law actually 
required you to let him out, and you left a patriot feeling 
like the Navy does not care about him or worse at the end of 
his service, and you kept his trident.
    I just--after hearing all this stuff about how important 
the people are, Mr. Secretary, I am perplexed and I hope it is 
not too late for some corrective measure to replace this 
person's integrity and dignity.
    With that, I will just let you respond.
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator. I would be happy to 
continue to work with you on this situation.
    However, first, I would like to make a statement that I 
personally did not make any statements against you or 
Lieutenant Adam Schwarze myself. But I will add that we have a 
responsibility in the Department of Defense that all 
servicemembers actually act in accordance with the Hatch Act, 
and Lieutenant Adam Schwarze knew exactly what the rules and 
requirements of the Hatch Act were.
    We cannot allow uniformed service personnel, even if they 
are 1 day from retirement, to participate in political 
activities, especially election-related activities.
    That is a standard that must be met. It has been adhered to 
since the beginning of the founding of our Nation and we have 
to actually meet that standard.
    Senator Cramer. So is there a standard where Navy lawyers 
are allowed to just absolutely trash a guy's reputation, create 
misstatements--factually untrue statements about his career and 
his claims so that they can somehow prove their point? Is that 
a standard?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I would be happy to look into the 
case further to see if those statements are accurate. I do not 
know the details of the----
    Senator Cramer. I do. I do. I know them.
    Mr. Del Toro.--statements that were made by lawyers and I 
would be happy to work with you on that.
    Senator Cramer. I know them including the statements about 
me that are in your lawyer's records. So----
    Mr. Del Toro. I would be happy to collaborate with you and 
your office, Senator.
    Senator Cramer. I look forward to that. I would rather not 
have to do it so publicly but after a year and a half of being 
stonewalled I am glad you are here today. Thank you.
    Senator Warren. [Presiding.] Thank you. So I recognize 
myself now.
    Last year the White House released a report telling 
agencies to prioritize union shops with pro-worker employers 
when awarding government contracts. This includes the 
Department of Defense. Workers are central to the United 
States' national security and the strength of our Defense 
Industrial Base.
    I am concerned that the Navy is not following through on 
the President's commitment to unions and workers. For example, 
I have heard reports that the Navy is consistently passing over 
union shipyards for contracts and giving them to nonunion 
shipyards instead. Some of these nonunion shipyards are already 
at capacity, working on multiple contracts at the same time, 
while the docks at the union shipyards are sitting empty.
    It sounds like even though there is plenty of work to go 
around, the Navy is actively choosing to ignore union shipyards 
where workers generally have better wages and better 
protections in favor of nonunion ship yards that are already 
overburdened with contracts.
    Secretary Del Toro, do you agree that the Navy contract 
should prioritize union workers when their shipyard is ready 
and able to do the job?
    Mr. Del Toro. I do, Senator, in accordance with all the 
other regulations that drive the issuance of contracts under 
the FAR [Federal Acquisition Regulations].
    Senator Warren. Good. Thank you. I agree with you on this.
    This has serious consequences. Missing out on contracts can 
mean closing the doors for these shipyards and laying off 
hundreds of workers, especially for smaller shipyards, and it 
means the next time that the Navy needs a ship repaired it will 
have to go to a nonunion shipyard that is likely already over 
extended, resulting in delays and threatening our ability to 
protect our coastline and to support our allies.
    The implications of this are huge as ongoing conflicts like 
the war in Ukraine and the threat of future conflicts fuel 
demand for weapons and other equipment. Delays in completing 
crucial projects could leave us vulnerable when we most need 
security.
    Secretary Del Toro, do you agree that the closure of union 
shipyards is a threat to the Defense Industrial Base?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, the closure of any shipyard in the 
United States can present a threat to the United States in 
terms of our ability to build our ships and maintain our 
national security. I would be most interested in actually 
getting the details of those reports that you mentioned so I 
could validate whether they are true or there is other issues 
at play that I am just not familiar with.
    Senator Warren. That is good but we also--the good news is 
that the Navy still has time to change this approach. You said 
earlier this year that now is the time to invest in the defense 
workforce and I could not agree more with you on that.
    Part of the solution should be to take advantage of the 
resources that we already have but we are not using or not 
using enough like union shipyards. More broadly, there is a lot 
that the Department can do, for example, making sure that 
contractors are properly notifying employees of their right to 
organize, improving contractors' compliance with anti-union 
consultant disclosure forms, and ensuring that Federal funds 
are not spent by contractors on union busting.
    Secretary Del Toro, can you tell me what steps you plan to 
take to ensure that the Navy is reinforcing the Defense 
Industrial Base while preserving union jobs?
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, I am committed to preserving union 
jobs, as I said earlier, and we actually have several shipyards 
that are already under union labor agreements as well, too. My 
commitment to you is that I will work with my acting Assistant 
Secretary of the Navy for Research, Development, and 
Acquisition (RD&A), that I hope we will actually have a 
permanent Assistant Secretary RD&A [for] Research, Development, 
and Acquisition, so I can actually invest more time in looking 
into these issues and many other issues as well.
    Senator Warren. I appreciate it and I look forward to 
working with you on this. President Biden has made an historic 
commitment to empower workers by prioritizing union labor in 
Federal contracting and, as you know, DOD is not exempt from 
that pledge and should not want to be exempt from that pledge.
    Protecting union jobs in the defense sector is a question 
of national security and I look forward to working with you to 
make sure that the Navy can fulfill its duty to the American 
people. Thank you.
    Mr. Del Toro. Thank you, Senator.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, and I now recognize Senator 
Scott.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairwoman Warren.
    [Off mic.]
    If we could talk about Taiwan a little bit. It sure appears 
that China is building a military to somehow intimidate or 
defeat Taiwan. If that happens the United States Navy and most 
likely the marines are going to be front and center in doing 
whatever we can to support Taiwan.
    In the meantime, the most important thing we could do is 
make sure does not happen. So can each of you talk about what 
you are doing to get Taiwan prepared to make sure this does not 
happen?
    One thing you keep hearing up here is the fact that I think 
it is something like $19 billion worth of United States 
military equipment has been ordered and not been delivered and 
so what are we doing to make sure Taiwan is doing their part?
    What are we doing to make sure our military industrial base 
provides the resources and what can you do to make sure that 
happens? Because it does not make any sense to me that the 
equipment is not there and Taiwan is not actually doing more 
than what they are doing right now. So if each of you could 
answer that.
    Mr. Del Toro. Senator, if I could start.
    Our National Defense Strategy is hyper focused on China as 
the pacing threat, obviously, with regards to their interest in 
potentially using military force against Taiwan, which we have 
to avoid at every possible moment.
    Part of the challenge that we face in providing the 
equipment, obviously, is the challenges that we have had in the 
supply chain over the last 3 or 4 years. So that is an issue 
that the Office of the Secretary of Defense is trying to 
address with special authorities.
    Senator Scott. Can I just stop you right there? Can I just 
stop you right there for a second?
    Mr. Del Toro. I am sorry?
    Senator Scott. That sounds really good. I have not heard 
one thing that is going to accelerate the $19 billion or 
whatever the number is. We have had these hearings and it keeps 
coming up. I have not heard one thing that actually has been 
done to accelerate it.
    Mr. Del Toro. I will--happy to provide you a list of things 
that have been done in the industrial base to actually 
accelerate the deliveries of those equipments and authorities.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Mr. Del Toro. While the Department of State has legal 
responsibility for the FMS process, accelerating delivery of 
these capabilities to Taiwan is a focus at the highest levels 
of the Department of the Navy. From the Secretary on down, we 
are working with senior Department of Defense leadership and 
our industrial partners to see how fast they can accelerate 
their production lines. We are working to identify and provide 
investment opportunities to streamline testing and 
recertification to alleviate some of the existing barriers to 
increased production throughput. In particular, we are making 
targeted investments in those critical munitions necessary in a 
high-end, sustained war fight. But it's going to take some time 
to do so, because capital investments need to be made, both 
materially and also in the workforce, in order to increase the 
production rates that are necessary to get new capabilities to 
Taiwan, in addition to our other international allies and 
partners, who have been asking for additional munitions, as 
well, too.
    So industry has to do its part to fulfill its contracted 
obligations for timely delivery of systems to our international 
partners. I think that they see the commitment that the 
President and the Secretary of Defense are making in terms of 
ensuring a reliable, solid pipeline in the future and now is 
the time for industry to make those capital investments.
    In the meantime, we are not standing still. We are working 
to ensure Taiwan is ready and able to use this equipment to 
full effect upon delivery, increasing their overall training 
and readiness postures.

    Senator Scott. So is it happening? Is there anything that 
is happening?
    Mr. Del Toro. There is discussions at the OSD [Office of 
the Secretary of Defense] level, both at the DSD [Deputy 
Secretary of Defense] level and the Under Secretary of Defense 
for Acquisition and Sustainment across the entire Department, 
working with suppliers of munitions providers and other 
equipment across the board to see how fast they could 
accelerate their production lines.
    But it is going to take some time to do so because capital 
investments need to be made, both materially and also in the 
workforce in order to increase the production rates that are 
necessary to get them to Taiwan in addition to our other 
international allies and partners as well, too, who have been 
asking for additional munitions as well, too.
    So industry has to do its part. I think that they see the 
commitment that the President and the Secretary of Defense is 
making in terms of ensuring a reliable solid pipeline in the 
future. Now is the time for industry to make those capital 
investments.
    Senator Scott. I would love to see concrete actions that 
are actually going to change the timeline because I was just in 
Cyprus the week before last. They got the same issue. They are 
not getting all--everything they want. They do not have any 
expectation of the dollar numbers but even a country like that 
cannot get what they want.
    So what is the Navy doing, what are the marines doing 
actually to get Taiwan in position on top of the equipment and 
ready to make--hopefully, deter China from doing something?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, I think it is best if we talk about 
that in a classified session in terms of the things that we are 
looking at in terms of our responsibility to field a ready 
force every single day.
    So our priorities have been readiness of the current force, 
modernization of the force, 70 percent of which we are going to 
have 10 years from now, and that is important from two aspects. 
One is you got to be ready to fight tonight to put doubt in 
Xi's mind that today is not the day.
    In a series of speeches last month in one of them he 
challenged his generals to be ready for war now, and so we take 
those kinds of assertions very seriously. Readiness has to be 
our top priority. Getting ships out of maintenance on time, 
which we are improving at but not yet satisfied with, has to 
improve.
    As the Commandant said earlier in this hearing, pushing 
everything we can forward: that is where we need to be. The 
Navy and the Marine Corps needs to be forward, and it is not 
just likely that it will be the Navy and Marine Corps. It is 
definitely that it will be the Navy and the Marine Corps as the 
away team and the first on the scene.
    Again, we are making balanced investments in the force that 
we have today, the best we can put in the field in terms of 
weapons.
    We have just done in this budget proposal four big 
multiyear procurements based on the authorities that the 
Congress has provided us for weapons with range and speed. Two 
of those are between the Navy and the Marine Corps. The other 
two are with the United States Air Force.
    So, sir, already approaching your limit. But Commandant----
    Senator Scott. Do you want to add anything?
    General Berger. We have been training with the Taiwanese 
marines for more than a decade. I think lately, the last 2 
years, I would say, focus on command and control, air defense, 
defense from the beach, and mining and building out their 
national guard and reserve--in other words, making it a whole 
total force, which is what they are going to need.
    Senator Scott. [Presiding.] Thank you.
    Let me recognize Senator Schmitt.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Senator Scott, and unlike 
Senator Scott's home State of Florida, Missouri is landlocked--
my home State. But when I started on this Committee I wanted to 
be on the Seapower Subcommittee.
    So we have an Army base. We have an Air Force base. 
Missouri, obviously, does not have a naval base. Mississippi is 
not deep enough.
    The reason for that is because I think that our biggest 
challenge from a national security perspective that we are 
facing--Missourians, Americans--is China. That is a focus of 
mine and I know that it is a focus of yours with the Navy and 
the Marines and to that end there are several very concerning 
trends that I want to discuss.
    The first is the fact that China's naval fleet is rapidly 
outpacing our own and that gap is only widening. The Pentagon 
reports suggest China may have 420 ships by 2025 and 460 ships 
by 2030. What is worse, Beijing is devoting significant amounts 
of its maritime training on island capture scenarios.
    In 2021, the People's Liberation Army, quote, ``conducted 
more than 20 naval exercises with an island capture element, 
greatly exceeding the 13 observed in 2020,'' according to a 
Pentagon 2022 report on Chinese military developments.
    This is another indicator, I think, of China's ambitions 
and Taiwan is in the crosshairs. There is no doubt about it.
    So to sort of followup on Senator Scott's questions, to me 
the best way to support Taiwan's ability to defend itself from 
Chinese aggression is to bolster their defensive capabilities 
today.
    Harpoon anti-ship missiles, which the U.S. Government is 
already committed to providing, is critical, providing a 
hundred new delivery systems, which I think has already been 
committed, as well as 400 Harpoon Block II surface-launched 
missiles.
    But the fact is that these are not going to be fully 
fielded until 2027. To expedite this critical capability as a 
stopgap until the new systems can be fielded, the U.S. should 
transfer from several hundred older missiles in the military's 
inventory that are under consideration for deep militarization 
or destruction.
    Secretary Del Toro, will you commit to working 
collaboratively and creatively with the Taiwanese and the 
Administration to leverage existing munitions and support 
equipment to expedite defense aid to Taiwan?
    Mr. Del Toro. Absolutely, I will. We have been actually 
collaborating within the letter of the law and the authorities 
that are allowed by law for us to collaborate with the 
Taiwanese, provide them the munitions that are necessary, the 
equipment that is necessary for them to be able to defend 
themselves.
    Senator Schmitt. Well, I think--that is good to hear. I 
think we have heard a lot about the supply chain issues. But 
Taiwan--the shot clock has probably started. It is between now 
and 4 years.
    I mean, this is coming and I just do not know how much time 
they really have to have the support that they need to deter a 
Chinese offensive. Which they seem to be dead set at.
    In that vein and also in this broader sort of industrial 
base, you mentioned the discussions that have been had. Let us 
say we were at war today. Let us say today the United States is 
at war with some power--China, whoever. What would we do 
differently than we do right now to ramp up that industrial 
base? What is holding us back?
    There is a demand signal, which I think is being sent. 
There is a demand--what else would we do? I mean, three or four 
things that we would do differently than we are doing right now 
to be prepared, and also this also relates to Taiwan.
    Mr. Del Toro. There are war authorities that would be 
exercised that are not currently exercised. But let us--the 
goal here is to prevent war with China----
    Senator Schmitt. Correct.
    Mr. Del Toro.--to deter China from going to war and I think 
the power of our coalitions with our allies and partners 
internationally has much to do with that fact.
    Senator Schmitt. I agree, and I have limited time. I think 
the Philippines see what is happening. I think this is----
    Mr. Del Toro. In South Korea and many other----
    Senator Schmitt. Yes.
    Mr. Del Toro.--countries in the Indo-Pacific that we rely 
on as partners actually.
    Senator Schmitt. But as it relates specifically to the 
industrial base other than the war powers what is it that we 
can do differently? Are there State barriers in the states 
where we have naval shipyards? What is it----
    Mr. Del Toro. So this President's Budget actually has 
increased the amount of funding for increased munitions by 50 
percent, for example. That is the most significant increase 
that we have had in the several past years and its investments 
in SM-6, LRASM [Long-Range Anti-Ship Missile], and numerous 
other missions as well, too.
    We are also investing in CPS [Conventional Prompt Strike], 
for example, to try to get deployable on the Zumwalt-class 
destroyer by 2025 and on the Virginia-class submarine by 2030. 
Those--we are pushing on all fronts, on all cylinders, to 
actually try to move as fast as we can.
    But just like in the shipbuilding industry with regards to 
the shipbuilding plan as well, too, we can only move as fast as 
industry can actually produce as well, too. Because the 
opportunity costs associated with making major multibillion 
dollar investments when industry cannot keep up with those 
productions means that we cannot spend money in other places as 
well too where it is badly needed as well.
    So it is all about finding the right balance and the right 
compromise to move forward . . .
    Senator Schmitt. Right, which is why I am sort of 
highlighting Taiwan. Because I think they have been on the 
backburner and I do not think they can be anymore.
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, can I make one----
    Senator Schmitt. Yes.
    Admiral Gilday. So if I would use Austal Shipbuilding in 
Alabama as an example. That company shifted from completely 
working with aluminum to working with steel.
    The reason they could do that--the sole reason they could 
do that--is because of the Defense Production Act. So to answer 
your question, there needs to be substantial investment by the 
U.S. Government in those industries in order for them to surge.
    We stopped doing that in shipbuilding in the Reagan 
administration. You saw 30 shipyards go down to 7. We saw that 
in the 1990's during the Clinton administration with the 
aircraft industry and how it supports the military. That is the 
first thing.
    The second thing is you need a bigger Navy and Marine Corps 
to protect those approaches from the sea to keep the United 
States economy humming and to deny that to any adversary. Those 
are the two things.
    Senator Schmitt. I am going to ask my hypersonic question 
in closed session. So thank you.
    Senator Sullivan. [Presiding.] I am taking over as the 
Chairman until the Chairman gets back so I will call on myself.
    General Berger, you have gotten a lot of compliments on 
Force Design. I have complimented you on it previously. But it 
is not without risks--significant risks. You acknowledged this 
in your testimony last year.
    Like the Navy, the Marine Corps has minimum force levels 
that are required by Congress. I have been reading a lot about 
the history of the 82d Congress. The Marine Corps loves to cite 
the 82d Congress in the aftermath of the Korean War.
    You know this, General. The only reason the Marine Corps 
exists--the only reason the Commandant of the Marine Corps is a 
co-equal to the CNO in a hearing like this is because of 
Congress.
    Very importantly, the 1952 law that the Secretary of 
Defense, Secretary of Navy, the President of the United States 
all opposed, mandated that the Marine Corps has three full 
combat infantry divisions, three full air wings, and task-
organized for combined arms operations.
    I am going to talk about some of the Force Design 
divestments. They have been dramatic. But I have concerns they 
have been so dramatic that the current U.S. Marine Corps does 
not meet the congressionally required minimums. Again, that is 
not your choice. We gave that to you. So I do not want to 
debate that right now.
    What I would like for the record to this Committee I would 
like you to provide a detailed T&O [Table of Organization] of 
the Marine Corps as it currently stands. You can use MCRP 1-10 
[Marine Corps Reference Publication], three regiments, 
everything in here, that the Marine Corps has kept these 
minimums that are required by the Congress. [The MCRP 1-10 has 
been retained in Committee files.]
    Can I get a detailed detail of the current T&O of the 
Marine Corps Today to make sure Force Design is not taking us 
under the statutory requirements of the 1952 law?
    General Berger. We can provide you--absolutely, it is 
unclassified--a task organization of the Marine Corps today. 
The law--the statute, as you accurately depicted, three 
divisions, three wings.
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the Publication of MCRP 1-10.1 Organization of the United 
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public release, distribution is unlimited). [The MCRP 1-10 has 
been retained in Committee files.]

    Senator Sullivan. Correct.
    General Berger. There was nothing more specific in that and 
we have changed it significantly over 70 years.
    Senator Sullivan. I just want--just look at the T&O. I have 
been looking at this. Look at the same one for the air wing and 
just say that you are meeting it. Again, that is not your call. 
That is our call and you need to meet that, and I would like to 
see details on that.
    I have been focused on Force Design more than any other 
U.S. senator. Again, I have been very complimentary of your 
bold approach. It takes a lot of guts, as Senator King said.
    I have been, as you know, General, frustrated by some of 
the answers that the Committee has been provided with. I think 
this idea that everything has to be classified--I think even 
your comment to Senator Budd that, well, you get classified 
stuff and the other generals do not. I get classified stuff.
    So I think it is really in the Marine Corps' interests to 
be able to explain this. There is a lot of criticism of it. One 
of the criticisms is that the Marine Corps is creating more of 
a niche force focused on one combatant command with one 
littoral mission, and putting at risk the critical statutorily-
mandated global crisis combat capability, kick in the door 
capability of the Marine Corps anywhere in the world for any 
contingency, not just littoral contingencies, and without 31 
amphibs I believe this is a real concern.
    Lieutenant General Heckl, recently at the Seapower 
Subcommittee when I was asking him, said having a hearing on 
this--I have talked to the Chairman and others--just getting it 
out there. Marine Corps defend this, critics come and--I think 
it is good for the Marine Corps. Would you be supportive of 
that, General?
    General Berger. Senator, earlier this week we finished 
another briefing, as you all have requested. That was, by our 
count, 429 briefings----
    Senator Sullivan. Those are classified--those are 
classified briefings, General. You need a hearing on this. The 
Congress of the United States--the biggest undertaking of 
reorganization of the Marine Corps in decades, merits a 
hearing. I do not know why you would resist that and I do not 
know why we keep getting----
    General Berger. I have never said no to a hearing from any 
Committee in 4 years.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay. So would you be up for a hearing?
    General Berger. Any hearing that is requested by a 
Committee with jurisdiction over the military absolutely I 
would say yes to.
    Senator Sullivan. Okay.
    General Berger. I have not said no yet.
    Senator Sullivan. I have run out--I am running out of time 
here and I have committed to the Chairman.
    Let me just ask one--one of the things that I put in the 
section 1023 of last year's NDAA--and, again, I do not think we 
have gotten it in the way in which I was expecting it and it 
has been classified, which does not help--is the extent to 
which the Marine Corps has divested so much capability and I 
have the long list here and it is very long--and the aviation 
side is enormously shocking to me--that the Marine Corps would 
have to rely on the Army to provide such capabilities.
    I do not think anyone has, at least as far as I can tell, 
given this Committee that information we requested--bridging, 
armor, assault breaching, route clearing, MPs [Military 
Police]. There is a lot that we do not have anymore, that if we 
go to war tomorrow and there is a river the marines have to 
cross, they cannot cross the river.
    So can you commit to this Committee again to take a look at 
section 1023 and the letter I sent you on April 5th to answer 
those questions? You have answered. Maybe I will just ask 
around.
    Do you have answers to that question on what capability 
have the Marine Corps given up that the Army now has to take? 
Then that is my final question.
    General Berger. The Act required us--asked us to give 
briefings, which we provided this month in accordance with the 
statute.
    Senator Sullivan. Classified.
    General Berger. We checked with the Committee to make sure 
that it answered----
    Senator Sullivan. I do not think classified briefings do 
that justice, but go on.
    General Berger. That was what was required in the NDAA----
    Senator Sullivan. It was not classified. I wrote it. I know 
what I am talking about.
    General Berger. It did not specify classified or 
unclassified. I think across the joint force to get the whole 
picture of what the capability of any element of the joint 
force is, you need to have unclassified and classified put 
together so you get a better picture of both capability and 
capacity.
    Senator Sullivan. The Army question?
    General Berger. Pardon me?
    Senator Sullivan. The Army question?
    General Berger. What is the question again, Senator?
    Senator Sullivan. This is in the law--the extent to which 
the Marine Corps is relying on the Army to provide capabilities 
it has divested.
    General Berger. What requires the combatant commander to 
make decisions on how to employ the force that is the combatant 
commander's decision, not mine? We provide, man, train, and 
equip forces as does the other services. How they are employed 
that is up to combatant commanders.
    Chairman Reed. [Presiding.] Thank you, Senator Sullivan. I 
have two additional questions, gentlemen, before we break.
    First, unfortunately, there has been an impasse in 
confirming general offices at a regular schedule. We previously 
used unanimous consent for all general officers except those 
with key positions requiring hearings.
    Are you seeing an impact, Admiral Gilday, in the service 
not only in terms of readiness but also in terms of quality of 
life of families, planning for families, planning for 
schooling, and also decisions at that level about whether they 
retain themselves in the service or depart?
    Admiral Gilday. Sir, we are not at that point yet. We are 
not at that point yet but we will be soon, and so to give you 
just a few examples, the director of Naval Reactors, 
responsible for more than 60 reactors and in the middle of 
AUKUS, is a concern. Four fleet commanders, including the fleet 
commander forward in the Western Pacific and the fleet 
commander in the Middle East, is a concern.
    Three force commanders--surface, air, and subsurface--
three-star officers, the head of Naval Installations Command, 
the superintendent of the naval academy as we are beginning 
to--as we are on the verge here of bringing another class and 
to keep that production line moving uninhibited is another 
example.
    We have five promotion lists with over 50 people and so it 
is close to 80 right now and growing, sir, but I would double 
it in terms of the amount of families that are affected this 
summer.
    Chairman Reed. General Berger, do you have comments?
    General Berger. I think my review is exactly the same. 
Within 90 days they are going to have significant impacts. At 
the one-and two-star general list we can move those. At the 
three-and four-star level they are one by one assignments.
    As you point out, without confirmation there is no moves. 
There are vacancies or delayed retirements or family plans that 
they do not know when that will happen. It is--I think by the 
late summer, early fall, you will have fairly--you will have 
significant impacts to both readiness and quality of life both.
    Chairman Reed. Let me followup one question. This force 
structure is interesting and should be pursued but you train 
regularly, I presume, the Marine Corps with Army armored units 
and the Army has far more tanks and mechanized vehicles than 
Marine Corps could ever want, not only need. The whole thrust, 
I think, of our strategy over the last several decades has been 
joint fighting, not individual services with their expertise.
    So you have available armored vehicles if the combat 
commander believes that is for the mission. Is that correct?
    General Berger. Absolutely do. Everything that we do is as 
a joint force. The Navy, the Marine Corps will not do anything 
on a large scale by itself. It is entirely as a joint force.
    There is some duplication, as you know, Senator, but mostly 
we want complementary capabilities. We have capabilities the 
Army does not. They have capabilities we do not. I think that 
is what you want.
    Chairman Reed. Yes, I tend to agree and you could want 
everything in the world like your own fleet of C-141s so you 
could be flown everywhere with marine pilots. But that would 
not make a lot of sense, would it?
    I think, again, we have to look carefully at this because 
we do have a responsibility to view the force structure changes 
and make sure they are correct. But I think so far what we have 
done is try to incorporate the threat that is emerging, not 
fight the last war.
    Mr. Del Toro. Mr. Chairman, you could not have said it 
better. I am sorry to interrupt. It is about today's threat and 
I fear that some of the critics of both, perhaps, Force Design 
or our Navy operations fail to understand that the threat very 
much has changed in the Indo-Pacific. When you take into 
account satellites and cyber security and everything else--
cyber warfare that is at play here, they fail to understand 
that we have to evolve and we have to be able to innovate in 
order to be able to effectively fight not yesterday's war in 
1953 or 1952 but tomorrow's war.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you all very much. We are going 
to recess until 1230 hours to go into the closed session and in 
the meantime I hope the second vote is called.
    So we will reassemble in the SVC-217 at 12:30. Thank you 
very much.
    [Whereupon, at 12:15 p.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                         port security barriers
    1. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Gilday, I continue to be concerned 
about the State of the Navy's port security barriers. We do everything 
we can to ensure our ships are capable and protected at sea, so we 
should commit a similar level of effort to make sure they are protected 
from terrorist and other threats when they are in port. How important 
is it that we are investing in modern, capable port security barriers 
that can defeat the threats we face today?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is committed to ensuring the security of 
our ships, while in port and at sea. The Navy utilizes Port Security 
Barriers, also called Waterborne Security Barriers (WSB), which are 
systems designed and used to protect U.S. military assets. WSBs are 
able to thwart attacks by terrorists that use small vessels laden with 
explosives as mobile weapons targeting military ships and waterside 
installations. In order to defeat the threats we face today, the Navy 
has developed WSB technical requirements to support the acquisition of 
the next generation of WSBs (WSB 2.0), which will include enhanced 
attack survivability and maintainability over existing Port Security 
Barriers. Barriers are sustained and placed on a phased replacement 
plan to ensure continued operation and protection of our ships.

    2. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Del Toro, will you commit to ensuring 
that any efforts to procure port security barriers will involve a fair 
and open competition?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Navy complies with all statutory and 
regulatory requirements, including Part 6 Competition Requirements of 
the Federal Acquisition Regulations (FAR), to acquire quality supplies 
and services that satisfy the Navy's needs for measurable improvements 
to mission capability and operational support at a fair and reasonable 
price. If an other than full and open competition strategy is used, it 
is performed in accordance with FAR 6.302 and in compliance with Title 
41 United States Code (U.S.C.) 3304 and Title 10 U.S.C. 3204.
    An Acquisition Strategy Framework was developed in March to support 
competitive procurement of new Waterborne Security Barriers 2.0 (WSB 
2.0). The Navy intends to engage industry using Industry Days and 
Requests for Information, to include review of a draft Request for 
Proposal (RFP), before releasing the final RFP. WSB 2.0 will provide 
for enhanced attack survivability and maintainability over legacy 
variants.
                         intellectual property
    3. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Del Toro, I am concerned with China's 
ongoing theft of American intellectual property and the impact that has 
on small businesses, including a constituent company of mine that 
provides an important technology to your Department. What is your view 
of China's ongoing theft of United States private sector intellectual 
property and the impact that has on our defense industrial base?
    Secretary Del Toro. Chinese cyber intrusions are the most prolific 
in the world. China uses cyberspace to conduct operations against the 
Department of Defense Information Network and the United States 
Homeland. They do this to weaken our allies and partners and to 
undermine United States interests. We need to do better at protecting 
our intellectual property.

    4. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Del Toro, do you see this an issue 
that the Department of the Navy, and the Department of Defense as a 
whole, can do a better job of working to address?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of the Navy continues to focus 
on cyberspace activities by prioritizing investments in cyberspace 
workforce, operations, research and capabilities.
              shortfalls in civilian police force staffing
    5. Senator Shaheen. There is a Department of Defense (DOD) civilian 
police force shortage across the Department that has developed into a 
severe national security concern. In the State of Maine, this directly 
affects Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) and Naval Computer and 
Telecommunications Area Master Station Atlantic Detachment Cutler 
(Naval Support Area Cutler), with PNSY falling below 50 percent of 
their authorized force and 37 percent of their required, and Naval 
Support Area Cutler falling 32 percent below their authorized force and 
25 percent of their required.
    Admiral Gilday, how aware is the Navy of this issue, how long has 
this been occurring, and how is the Navy addressing these shortfalls?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is keenly aware of the challenges we 
continue to face attracting, hiring, and retaining security force 
personnel at PNSY and NSA Cutler. We have focused on recruiting and 
retaining talent for several years. We have employed a number of 
strategies to address the manning shortfalls; including expanded 
authorization and use of direct hiring capabilities for Police and 
Security positions, authorizing targeted recruitment, relocation and 
retention incentives, and raising the full performance level of Police 
Officer positions to the GS-7 level. Several CNIC Regions expanded 
outreach through Navy and State sponsored marketing, and hiring events 
targeted toward Police Officers have been carried out over the years to 
recruit local talent to expedite the hiring process. Further, CNIC has 
a focused Performance to Plan (P2P) working group that is assessing 
recruiting and retention challenges and proposing mitigations to reduce 
fill time and enable management's ability to respond to turnover.

    6. Senator Shaheen. As it stands, multiple barriers contribute to 
the workforce shortage. Some include pay parity with civilian 
counterparts, the Commander, Navy Installations Command requirement to 
have a bachelor's degree (which is not required by police departments 
in the local area), and a lack of transferability of credentials/
qualifications. For example, a Navy Master at Arms on the PNSY police 
force might not meet the hiring criteria to be a General Schedule (GS) 
police officer, given that the prerequisite for a new applicant is that 
they must have a bachelor's degree or like experience. Or, a 10-year 
veteran of the Maine State police would have to go to the Federal Law 
Enforcement Training Center or police academy since the mid-Atlantic 
region will not honor a waiver for a 20-year retired officer or anyone 
with a prior police academy with a law enforcement background.
    Secretary Del Toro, of these barriers, which can the Navy remove, 
which require the DOD to remove, and which require changing by Office 
of Personnel Management? In addition, will pay levels need to be 
considered?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is the 
authority that establishes formal qualification requirements for jobs 
within the General Schedule employment system. The Department of Navy 
(DON) applies the OPM regulations when evaluating candidates for jobs 
in the Police Series (0083) and does not supplement these requirements 
with other qualification factors.
    A candidate for employment as a Police Officer may qualify for the 
position based on three criteria: 1) education; 2) experience; or 3) a 
combination of the two. New entrants to the 0083 series may qualify at 
grades GS-02 through GS-06. Qualification at a specific level is 
dependent upon the candidate's experience and/or education. Personnel 
with prior Law Enforcement (LE) experience may submit a waiver for LE 
training and police academy requirements. The waiver must be reviewed 
by the DOD Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) Commission and 
approved by the Under Secretary of Intelligence & Security per 
Department of Defense (DOD) Instruction 5525.15, ``Law Enforcement 
Standards and Training.''

    7. Senator Shaheen. Admiral Gilday, would it be helpful to change 
policy and consider classifying base police as law enforcement 
officers?
    Admiral Gilday. Candidates who lack qualifying work experience 
related to the position may also seek qualification consideration by a 
substitution of education for experience. All Executive Agencies use 
the OPM established minimum qualification requirements, along with 
agency-prescribed specialized requirements to qualify candidates for 
Federal positions. Establishment of a Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) 
designation would create significant labor implications to include age 
requirements and benefit contributions.

    8. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, has DOD 
or the Navy applied for direct-hire authority to address the issues 
identified at the named facilities?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Department of Defense currently has Direct 
Hire Authority (DHA) for Police Officer positions The Department of the 
Navy is taking advantage of the DHA to address the identified issues at 
the named facilities.
    Senator Shaheen. In talks with constituents of Maine impacted by 
this, a suggestion I received was to amend the recruitment process by 
hiring recruits as GS-5, processing them through their required 
training in the time that takes, and joining the field as GS-7, 
skipping GS-6.

    9. Secretary Del Toro, how feasible would change be, and what 
effects would it have across the organization?
    Secretary Del Toro. The experience and training completed at each 
GS level provide our civilian Police Officers with the necessary 
qualifications for career advancement. Adjusting the career development 
to allow for a two-grade interval pattern would not be consistent with 
current training requirements.
    Police Officer hires have a rigorous training and development plan 
that includes specific work and exposures at each grade level. 
Adjusting the development plan to increase compensation without 
alignment to their skill would not result in improved quality of the 
work performed at the higher level without the on-the-job experience at 
the intervening level.
    It should be noted that increasing the grade level is not the only 
way to increase pay for General Schedule (GS) employees. The Navy, 
similar to other civilian employing components and agencies, has the 
option to seek OPM approval of higher special rates of pay for a 
category of GS employees if a determination is made that pay increases 
are needed to address significant recruitment and/or retention 
difficulties. (See 5 U.S.C. 5305 and 5 CFR part 530, subpart C.)
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie Hirono
                   amphibious transport docks (lpds)
    10. Senator Hirono. General Berger, a key part of Force Design 2030 
is the ability to get marines and supplies to austere locations, which 
requires a robust amphibious fleet. Yet, I understand the Office of the 
Secretary of Defense has delayed the purchase of a required LPD for a 
12th study. How would not resourcing the LPD line impact the Marine 
Corps vision for Force Design 2030?
    General Berger. The LPD is an essential component to reaching the 
operational and statutory requirement of 31 amphibious warfare ships. 
As ships are being decommissioned faster than they are procured, 
delivered, and eventually employable, this inventory under President's 
Budget 2024 will decrease to 27 ships over the next 5 years. While we 
will likely still be able to support the Indo-Pacific Theater, we will 
accept risk elsewhere in the world. The decrease in the overall 
Amphibious Warfare Ship (AWS) inventory, combined with consistent/
constant Global Force Management (GFM) demand and longer than planned 
maintenance availabilities results in an overworked AWS fleet with no 
``ready bench'' lacking ships to fulfill SECDEF directed GFM 
requirements, delayed deployments and reductions in training and 
certification periods. Meanwhile, the LPD Flt II continues to be 
affordably constructed with capabilities critical to providing 
strategic mobility, force projection, and the ability to campaign 
across the globe. It provides the ability to operate offensively in a 
medium-density, multi-threat, anti-access littoral environment by being 
a seabase from which the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) operates 
helicopters, tiltrotor aircraft, landing craft, and amphibious 
vehicles.
    Effective integrated deterrence requires amphibious warfare ships. 
LPDs with embarked marines provide a Distributed Maritime Operations 
capability that is a flexible, scalable, and visible capability for our 
combatant commanders to employ at the time and place of their choosing 
in support of integrated deterrence campaigning. This flexibility is 
further enhanced by the LPD Flt II capability to embark rotary-wing and 
tilt-rotor aircraft and operate independently, unlike its predecessor 
LSDs, which expands the options provided to the combatant commanders.
    The Marine Corps has a requirement for no less than 31 amphibious 
warfare ships: 10 LHA/LHD and 21 LPDs. Since 2019, three DON studies 
have examined amphibious warfare ship force structure requirements. The 
requirement was informed by combining the findings of those studies, 
the most recent being the SecNav directed Amphibious Fleet Requirement 
Study (AFRS) in 2022, with amphibious warfare ship readiness trends 
over the past 10 years. AFRS was a threat informed, scenario directed, 
model driven, multiple phase event executed by the analytic arms of the 
Navy and the Marine Corps. The findings of AFRS were briefed to the 
service chiefs and SecNav, 31 amphibious warfare ships were reported as 
the minimum required. This finding is consistent with 11 amphibious 
warfare ship inventory studies completed over the last 14 years.
    The last Congress recognized this requirement in the James M. 
Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act, Public Law 117-263 (2023). 
Section 1023 requires the Navy maintain ``not less than 31 operational 
amphibious warfare ships, of which not less than 10 shall be amphibious 
assault ships.'' This law mirrors the need of the National Security 
Strategy, but it is important to note, this is a floor not a ceiling.
                           sea lift capacity
    11. Senator Hirono. Secretary Del Toro, it is widely known lift 
will be crucial for any contingency in the Pacific. There are many 
ongoing Navy programs aimed at this problem: the future Landing Ship 
Medium and the re-capitalization of the Ready Reserve Fleet to name a 
few. What does the Navy need to make sure we have the lift capabilities 
the force needs in this decade?
    Secretary Del Toro.
      To address inter-theater lift requirements, Department of 
Navy (DON) has made it a priority in their fiscal year 2024 budget 
submission to recapitalize the sealift forces. This plan is an 
integrated three-phase approach that 1) modernizes most viable existing 
ships through a Service Life Extension program, 2) procures militarily 
useful used sealift vessels to address near term capacity gaps, and 3) 
develops requirements for new construction ships to recapitalize 
Maritime Prepositioning Force. This work is being accomplished in order 
to meet Combatant Commands delivery requirements.
      Navy's commitment to meeting near-term surge sealift 
requirements continues through procurement and refurbishment of used 
commercial Roll-On Roll-Off ships for replacement of aging Ready 
Reserve Force capacity. The Navy requires continued support for the 
BuyUsed recapitalization program in order to provide a stable 
acquisition profile with forecasted maintenance and repair costs to 
meet strategic mobility requirements at a moderate level of risk.

      Navy continues to act on congressional authorities to 
address strategic sealift readiness and recapitalization by purchasing 
two used vessels that participated in the Maritime Security Program. 
The CAPE ARUNDEL and CORTES will complete re-classification, baseline 
readiness and modification and be ready for tasking Q3 FY23. Also, 
Maritime Administration (MARAD)'s Vessel Acquisition Manager awarded a 
contract for three sister ships and is performing a market analysis for 
additional ships. Ships will complete re-flag, reclassification and 
modification and be ready for tasking approximately 8 months after 
transfer of ship from seller.

      The Sealift Buy-Used program will execute to authorized 
limitations with the purchase of nine used vessels by fiscal year 2024. 
The Navy requires support for the fiscal year 2024 Sealift Legislative 
Proposal requesting removal of the overall limitation of the purchase 
of foreign-built used vessels, necessary to expediently and cost 
effectively be prepared to deliver this required capability in wartime.

      As part of the intra-theater lift requirement the Navy is 
investing in requirements development of the newest class of at-sea 
resupply ships, the Next-Generation Logistics Ships (NGLS). NGLS will 
augment existing Combat Logistics Force ships, adding more capacity in 
theater for the distribution of logistics commodities. The Navy's 
fiscal year 2024 budget request includes research and development 
funding for the NGLS program to support procurement of the first ships 
in fiscal year 2026.

      As part of the integrated solution to address tactical 
lift, Navy is investing in Landing Craft Air Cushion (LCAC) service 
life extension and the procurement of the LCAC's replacement, the Ship 
to Shore Connector (SSC). The SSC provides a robust, modern operational 
capability to land credible combat power from amphibious ships across 
beaches not accessible by conventional landing craft, thus enabling the 
Marine Corps and Navy to project combat power ashore from the sea. The 
SSC provides a one-for-one enhanced replacement platform for legacy 
LCAC, which are reaching an average 30 years of age. The Navy is 
continuing to support production progress in serial SSC deliveries.

      The Navy is also replacing its aging Landing Craft 
Utility (LCU) fleet with the LCU 1700 program which recapitalizes the 
capabilities and flexibility currently provided by the LCU 1610 Class 
in a more fuel efficient, cost effective, and updated design. Navy 
requires support of the fiscal year 2024 budget request to continue to 
modernize the aging LCU 1610 fleet, which is currently approaching an 
average age of 50 years, with a request for two additional LCU 1700.

      The Navy is investing in a Medium Landing Ship to provide 
distributed maneuver and mobility support for littoral expeditionary 
forces such as Marine Littoral Regiments in contested littoral 
environments. The fiscal year 2024 funding request continues the 
development of the equipment baseline and efforts to support a lead 
hull contract award in fiscal year 2025.

      Navy's integrated strategy addresses near-term lift needs 
while establishing strategically placed long-term lift solutions to 
support employment across the competition continuum.
                         shipyard modernization
    12. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, I was glad to see the Dry Dock 
3 replacement at Pearl Harbor was fully funded in this year's budget 
request. As you know, this is a complex project that the Navy must get 
right. I also remain focused on resourcing the Waterfront Production 
Facility to ensure our shipyard workers have the required tools and a 
logical shop layout. While I understand there may be engineering 
constraints to completing the dry dock at the same time as the 
production facility, this is a critical part of the Shipyard 
Infrastructure Modernization Plan and should be prioritized as such. 
Admiral Gilday, the planned mission need date for the waterfront 
production facility is fiscal year 2028. Is the facility on track to be 
completed by then?
    Admiral Gilday. The Waterfront Production Facility (WPF) at Pearl 
Harbor Naval Shipyard (PHNS) is not on track to meet the mission need 
date of fiscal year 2028 reflected in the most recent Shipyard 
Infrastructure Optimization Program 5-Year Plan Report to Congress. The 
Navy has prioritized completion of the PHNS Dry Dock 3 replacement 
project, but as mentioned in the same report, needs additional funding 
for WPF planning and design efforts. The $20 million provided for WPF 
design funding in the fiscal year 2023 Omnibus spending bill allowed 
for the initiation of facility design efforts.

    13. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, how are is the Navy ensuring 
that the Dry Dock 3 replacement project stays on time and on budget?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is employing a coordinated management 
strategy across contracting, organizational, and scope domains to 
control cost and schedule for the Dry Dock 3 replacement project at 
Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard (PHNS). That work is synchronized with 
fleet and maintenance schedules to ensure alignment with operational 
demands.
    During project design, the acquisition strategy used early 
contractor involvement to obtain feedback from all five potential 
bidders on constructability of the project and the contract documents. 
Their feedback ensured the design was buildable, led to improvements in 
the design, and corrected items that would have otherwise been found 
during construction, potentially creating cost and schedule changes. 
The contract allowed for alternative technical approaches, changes to 
the design that the government accepted as part of the award which will 
mitigate cost and schedule risk.
    Additionally, the Navy awarded separate contracts ahead of the main 
construction contract, to accomplish environmental dredging and remove 
unexploded ordnance, averting a significant risk of delay at the 
beginning of work. A separate contract was completed to relocate the 
perimeter fence around the Controlled Industrial Area, allowing 
unimpeded access for the construction contractor at the start of work. 
The construction contract includes an economic price adjustment clause 
that places risk for the escalation of many materials on the 
government, lowering the award cost. The contract offers significant 
award fees for completing specific milestones (including ultimate 
completion) by specific dates, providing meaningful incentives to meet 
performance standards.
    Lastly, the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program's Program 
Management Office retains visibility and accountability for schedule, 
cost, and performance at every level, with well-defined thresholds to 
preserve flag officer-level decision space. The Navy has established 
formal project governance, learning from other mega-projects, setting 
expectations for issue resolution. The Naval Facilities Engineering 
Systems Command commissioned a dedicated Officer in Charge of 
Construction to provide a level of oversight far beyond the typical 
construction effort, patterned off recent success at other naval 
depots. The project execution team continuously identifies and monitors 
risk and uses both qualitative and quantitative analysis to report on 
and manage risks until they are retired.
               work force development; immigration reform
    14. Senator Hirono. Secretary Del Toro, I am concerned by the slow 
pace of ship and submarine construction and maintenance. For example, 
the Navy is buying 2 Virginia submarines a year, but only receiving 
about 1.2 a year, which I know you both find unacceptable. The DOD is 
spending a fortune to fix this, in part through workforce development--
but I am not sure that we have yet to find the right answer to this 
complex problem. Developing a workforce is a worthy endeavor, but if 
there are simply not enough workers, money alone will not solve the 
problem. Secretary Del Toro, I was pleased to hear you speak on the 
need for immigration reform earlier this year. Could you expand further 
on the importance of our immigrant workforce to military readiness?
    Secretary Del Toro. We are facing a national shortage of blue 
collar workers and with historically low unemployment rates, recruiting 
skilled laborers is even more challenging. We need to take a holistic 
approach to maintaining a shipyard workforce that is capable of 
executing the Department of the Navy's (DON) shipbuilding plans. This 
all-hands-on-deck approach involves multiple engagement strategies to 
include retention and recruitment efforts as well as potentially 
increasing the number of candidates by leveraging applicable visa work 
programs.
    With retention efforts focused on monetary incentives for current 
employees, the DON is expanding its outreach program with hiring events 
at colleges, vocational centers, and conference centers. In addition to 
these employment focused events, the DON is developing an engagement 
strategy to advertise and recruit skilled laborers at various public 
venues to include sporting events and Fleet Week festivities.
    The abovementioned efforts may not be enough and we will need to do 
more to attract the skilled labor force our shipyards require. This 
includes a potentially greater focus on programs that provide foreign 
nationals an opportunity to lawfully employ their skills in a trade 
that advances our military readiness.
                           climate resiliency
    15. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, your 
services own many of the bases most vulnerable to climate change in the 
country. This year's budget request includes $3.7 billion for 
installation resiliency measures, which is about equal to the cost of 
repairs to Camp Lejeune after Hurricane Florence. Rising sea levels and 
more extreme weather events will make these types of repairs costlier 
and more frequent unless we make investments now. Following the 
Department of Defense's Climate Adaption Plan, the Department of the 
Navy released Climate Action 2030. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, 
how is implementation of both these plans going, and what is the 
importance of fully funding these measures?
    Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy's Climate Action 2030 
acknowledges that climate resilience is an important component of 
mission readiness and works to ensure our installations and 
infrastructure are resilient to a wide range of near-term and long-
range challenges. These challenges include extreme weather events, 
water scarcity, sea level rise, flooding, wildfires, and other 
environmental considerations and threats that can affect operations and 
present significant risks to mission. We see climate affecting the Navy 
in significant ways and expect this impact to intensify in the coming 
years. By incorporating climate change considerations into the 
decisionmaking process for shore investments, the Navy gains 
operational and tactical advantages, remains agile, preserves decision 
space, and reduces climate hazard risks to mission and operations.
    To further support the Administration's priorities, the Navy 
integrated the goals of Climate Action 2030 into current mission 
requirements and installation investments, for example:

      Incorporating installation climate resilience plan (ICRP) 
components in our Master Planning process and plans. The Navy completed 
an ICRP at Naval Base San Diego and prioritized and resourced ICRPs at 
Naval Base Guam, Naval Base Coronado, and Naval Support Activity 
Hampton Roads.

      Increasing implementation of water and energy 
conservation measures in buildings and piloting use of low-carbon 
building materials.

      Incorporating water resilience analysis and mitigation 
recommendations into annual Installation Energy Program Summaries.

      Conserving water to the maximum extent practicable 
through activities that positively impact groundwater recharge, 
stormwater retention, and sustainable land management on Navy 
installations and ranges.

      Planning installation micro-grids and long duration 
battery storage to ensure continuity of critical missions.

      Proactively leveraging public and private ventures and 
third-party financing to reduce greenhouse gas emissions of non-
tactical vehicle fleets and the emissions and traffic impacts of the 
commuting military, civilian, and contractor workforce.

      Constructing living shorelines and breakwater projects to 
reduce shoreline erosion and protect Navy missions from sea level rise 
and storm surge.

      Investing in resilience projects at the U.S. Naval 
Academy (USNA) to improve installation resilience.

    Investments in the President's Budget 2024 focus on building 
installations resilience and include investments to improve the Navy's 
aging utility systems, USNA resilience investments, planning and design 
of two Net Zero building retrofits, upgrading building control systems 
for improved cybersecurity and energy savings, initiating carbon 
footprint assessments to identify energy savings opportunities at Navy 
installations, planning and installation of electric vehicle support 
equipment (EVSE) and leasing of non-tactical zero emission vehicles, 
greening bases initiative, xeriscaping projects, and greenhouse gas 
emissions tracking and reduction.
    General Berger. These initiatives are important to ensuring the 
ability of our installations to to withstand natural hazards and 
extreme weather events (e.g., coastal storms, floods, desertification, 
drought, wildfire, etc.).
    The Department of Defense's Climate Adaptation Plan, Department of 
the Navy's Climate Action 2030, and congressional statutes improve 
resiliency and sustainability of installations through master planning; 
improve energy security posture through third party financing and 
accelerating advanced micro-grid deployment; and implement nature-based 
solution projects to address climate impacts, sequester carbon, and 
enhance ecosystems. We are pursuing climate resiliency initiatives 
aligned with our missions.
    Marine Corps Recruit Depot (MCRD) Parris Island (PI) completed a 
Climate Change Resiliency and Adaptation Plan (2020) and a Master Plan 
(2021). These documents are being used to develop military construction 
and facilities, sustainment, restoration, and modernization investment 
projects to reduce existing and projected localized flooding. The 
Military Installation Resilience Review of Marine Corps Air Station 
(MCAS) Beaufort and MCRD PI has developed a toolkit for structural 
infrastructure interventions and nonstructural planning approaches to 
adapt to climate change and optimize resilience for shared community 
assets and infrastructure.
    Fiscal year 2023 funding and the Fiscal Year 2024 President's 
Budget Request address erosion and flooding issues affecting training 
areas and ranges at Marine Corps Base (MCB) Hawaii, MCAS Cherry Point, 
MCAS Beaufort, and MCAS Yuma. Installation Master Plan updates will be 
complete in fiscal year 2025 for MCB Camp Lejeune and in fiscal year 
2026 for MCB Camp Pendleton.
    These resources ensure the Marine Corps is postured to meet the 
Department's stated performance goals: 1) build climate resilience, and 
2) reduce climate threat through prioritizing Science & Technology 
research of Operational Energy advancements and fossil fuel demand 
reduction initiatives such as anti-idle applications, hydrogen power 
research and continued research into tactical vehicle hybrid/electric 
components.
                         pier side maintenance
    16. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, as more ships and submarines 
are based forward the need for pier side maintenance capacity is 
outpacing shipyard growth. What is the importance of replacement 
submarine tenders in Guam?
    Admiral Gilday. Forward-based replacement submarine tenders are 
required to support SSNs, SSBNs, SSGNs, UUVs, and submarine emergency 
response requirements for homeported, transient, and visiting 
submarines and UUVs in Guam. Submarine tenders directly contribute to 
submarine force readiness by enhancing submarine material readiness 
through intermediate-level maintenance support, loading, unloading, and 
storing submarine weapons and unmanned vehicles, and resupplying 
submarines with a range of materials. The tenders also support emergent 
nuclear and non-nuclear repairs for submarines across the theater. The 
replacement submarine tenders will be more capable of providing 
submarine and UUV support than current tenders and will be specifically 
designed to support deployed Virginia-class and Columbia-class 
submarines. The nearest Intermediate Maintenance Facility (IMF) is in 
Pearl Harbor, HI for Guam homeported boats. Replacement tenders in Guam 
also add significant time in operational availability back to Guam-
homeported and visiting platforms since they are not forced to transit 
to Pearl Harbor for tending, resupply or intermediate-level 
maintenance. In addition, future tenders in Guam will be required to 
support submarines during peacetime and wartime. The proximity of Guam 
replacement tenders will allow the submarine force to maintain presence 
and project power in the INDOPACOM theater.
    USS Frank Cable and USS Emory S. Land submarine tenders will exceed 
their service lives by 13+ years before the first AS(X) reaches initial 
operational capability in fiscal year 2031. These tenders were designed 
and fitted to accommodate attack submarines in a peacetime environment 
at Guam and provide pier-side moored repair and services to submarines. 
The current tenders lack the capacity to support modern weapons systems 
handling and storage, C5I communications, water processing, rapid 
mooring counter weights, and fender storage/deployment. The current 
tenders also lack dedicated airlift capability.
    The AS(X) platform, as an expeditionary tender, will have peacetime 
and wartime missions. In peacetime, the AS(X) provides pier side 
support in a forward deployed submarine homeport, providing sustained 
repair, supply, weapons handling, and tending operations for home 
ported or visiting submarines and ships, and fly away emergent voyage 
repair services for other deployed submarines and ships. AS(X) also 
provides rapid emergency response to crew rescue operations, nuclear/
radiological emergencies, and natural disasters. AS(X) will 
periodically provide tended submarines off ship support, including 
messing and berthing facilities, when they become uninhabitable due to 
repair and overhaul work.
    In wartime, AS(X) may be tasked to transit in an open-ocean, 
hostile environment, unescorted to or from a port where operations are 
occurring. During the transit, the AS(X) can conduct independent anti-
surface self-defense operations against non-warship surface craft and 
limited anti-air self-defense employing small caliber crew-served 
weapons fire. Once AS(X) has arrived at a Joint or Allied force forward 
staging port or at anchor, it will continue self-defense and force 
protection and require minimal port security. From the forward 
location, AS(X) will be capable of providing repair, resupply, weapons 
replenishment, and tending operations to multiple submarines providing 
rapid repair and replenishment of deployed submarines, allowing them to 
get back to the fight faster.

    17. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, Hawaii is scheduled to get a 
floating dry dock in 2032. Will that be late to need?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy plans to initiate construction of a 
floating dry dock for Hawaii in 2032 for delivery to meet the mission 
need date in 2036. The Navy awarded a site selection study in late 2022 
to evaluate potential operating sites within Joint Base Pearl Harbor-
Hickam. The results of this study are due this summer and will inform 
the Navy's way ahead on pier infrastructure requirements and Military 
Construction / Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization project 
funding needed to support the floating dry dock.

    18. Senator Hirono. Admiral Gilday, what can be done to make pier-
side maintenance more efficient?
    Admiral Gilday. Analysis by the Center for Naval Analysis shows 
Days of Maintenance Delay are attributed to four main efforts: 
Modernization, Throughput, Unplanned Work, and Material Availability. 
Improvements in each of these efforts will make pier-side maintenance 
more efficient.
    To address the challenges of completing availabilities on time from 
CNO Availabilities and Intermediate Availabilities, the Navy continues 
to develop and institute Naval Sustainment System--Shipyard (NSS-SY) 
and Supply initiatives, leverage Performance to Plan (P2P) and Get 
Real, Get Better behavior and improvements. These initiatives are not 
constrained to availabilities in dry docks, rather they permeate 
throughout each of the public shipyards, and include pier side 
maintenance.
    In support of all maintenance availabilities, the Navy has 
developed the 15-Year Maintenance Strategy while NSS-SY identifies and 
executes initiatives that reduce nuclear ship and submarine maintenance 
availability durations at public shipyards.
    Additional initiatives underway to improve shipyard performance, 
throughput and material readiness, and reduce unplanned work include:

      Waterfront improvement initiatives which span three focus 
areas:

      1.  Project Management Fundamental adherence including 
transparency, accountability and training needed at all levels.

      2.  Improved metrics fidelity to drive better understanding of 
performance versus targets and why goals are missed.

      3.  Implementing a culture of fix or elevate at shipyards. 
Leadership is spending more time on the deck plates and improving 
process review to better support inputs from mechanics.

      Inside the shops, there is focus on lean transformation 
resulting in leaning out ship areas to drive safe, quality flow of 
material. The shops are also working on schedule integration to improve 
connectivity to project schedules and implement ``drop-in'' governance. 
Finally, shops are using lean skillsets to unlock shop leads and Gemba 
through lean coaching and training. Gemba is the observation of work in 
action, often to provide senior leaders a better understanding of how 
things get accomplished and provide any help that may be needed.

      NAVSEA is leveraging a three-pronged approach to address 
hiring challenges and improve retention.

        Special Pay Rates: One of the leading indicators 
related to under performance of hiring plans is the disparity of pay in 
comparison to private industry. Each shipyard developed data-driven 
positions to be considered for Special Pay Rates.

        Through the NSS-SY People Pillar the Expert 
Tradesperson initiative creates a career path that incentivizes our 
best and brightest mechanics to stay in the wage grade field. The 
Expert Tradesperson position was established with a clear vision and 
intent to enhance a career in trades and increase responsibilities and 
authorities within the production department, thereby dramatically 
improving throughput and productive capacity.

        Exceptions to Pay Increase Limitations: Annual 
appropriations law found in the Financial Services and General 
Government Appropriations Act places limits on wage schedule increases 
for Federal Wage System positions. This limitation does not provide 
parity with private industry and places undue burden on the naval 
shipyards to recruit or retain qualified employees.

      Development of a comprehensive plan to purchase CNO 
availability material with sufficient lead time to ensure it is 
received by the start of availability.

      Development of the Planning Improvement Control Board 
process which helps alter or remove outdated requirements, or 
anticipate more efficiently addressing planning or inspection 
requirements.

      Development of the Engineering Intervention Board (EIB) 
which was established in fiscal year 2021 to revise or remove 
maintenance requirements and improve maintenance effectiveness by 
leveraging SEA 05 expertise and technical authority. The goal of this 
effort is to reduce work package sizes by challenging cumbersome 
technical requirements and supporting ideation of priority improvement 
items, in partnership with field activity stakeholders. This effort by 
the EIB supports the NAVSEA Commander's intent to implement a full 
system transformation to deliver nuclear ships from maintenance 
availabilities to the Fleet on time.

    The aforementioned initiatives will improve Modernization, 
Throughput, Unplanned Work, and Material Availability and thus increase 
the overall efficiency of ship maintenance including pier side 
maintenance availabilities within the public shipyards.
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                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
                    non-deployable assignment & care
    19. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, as 
discussed during the hearing, it came to my attention during visits to 
the Mid-Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center following the suicides of 
4 sailors that Navy manning policy allows for a 60 percent increase in 
the assignment of personnel (30 percent for limited duty and 30 percent 
for pregnancy/post-partum) but does not address the additional 
resources needed to support a population that requires specialized time 
and attention. During the hearing Secretary Del Toro mentioned that 
Navy is ``channeling back'' on that policy. Where are these changes 
codified and how are you ensuring their implementation?
    Secretary Del Toro. and Admiral Gilday. Navy is currently 
conducting a holistic review of assignment policies for both Limited 
Duty (LIMDU) and pregnant/post-partum sailors to ensure their 
assignment offers sufficient support and meaningful duties with 
accommodation for their medical/work limitations. As an immediate and 
interim action while this review is ongoing, distribution of LIMDU 
sailors was shifted from previous distribution models to an even 
percentage across appropriate shore commands within a geographic 
region, providing a reduction in LIMDU populations at our largest shore 
commands.
                        rcoh assignment policies
    20. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro, last year's House report to 
the National Defense Authorization Act for fiscal year 2023 directed a 
report to the Committees of the Armed Services of the Senate and House 
to address alternative approaches to manning ships undergoing refueling 
and complex overhaul (RCOH). What is the status of the report?
    Secretary Del Toro. The report has been drafted and is under review 
within the Department of the Navy. It will be provided to you and the 
Committee in the near future.

    21. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, is the 
Navy considering the implementation of alternative policies for first-
term sailors assigned to ships undergoing RCOH as a result of the House 
report requirement?
    Secretary Del Toro. and Admiral Gilday. The Navy is considering 
options for assignments policies for first-term sailors assigned to 
ships undergoing RCOH with anticipated costs and benefits. Options 
currently being reviewed by Navy leadership include:

     1)  Expanding cross-deck opportunities for first-term sailors to 
serve aboard operational units.

    Developing a split-tour program that ensures first-term sailors are 
not assigned to carriers in RCOH for longer than 2 years.

    22. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, in 
addition to considering changes to policy regarding first-term sailor 
assignment to ships undergoing significant maintenance, what are other 
ways (if any) that the Navy is challenging assumptions about crew 
assignments during RCOH?
    Secretary Del Toro. and Admiral Gilday. The Navy is challenging 
assumptions about crew assignments during RCOH in the following areas:

     1)  Navy Manpower Analysis Center will conduct a study to identify 
RCOH ``essential'' manning. The study will establish minimum acceptable 
RCOH crew size by rating, for each of the different phases of the RCOH.

     2)  Evaluating Basic Allowance for Subsistence (BAS) policy and 
the provision of crew meals when shipboard food services are not 
available or are limited during RCOH.
                      components of mental health
    23. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, we 
understand that Navy has recently made adjustments to its physical 
readiness program in an effort to boost recruitment and retention. 
Although the program can be an effective force-shaping tool when used 
in this manner, it does not appear to incentivize the individual 
physical readiness of the average sailor but rather, encourages meeting 
the minimum standard by employing negative reinforcement in terms of 
career consequences. This type of policy does not seem to align with 
the Navy's Get Real, Get Better or Culture of Excellence campaigns. 
Furthermore, physical health is an essential component of mental health 
so it stands to reason that positive reinforcement of and a commitment 
to physical fitness requirements could have a positive effect on the 
overall mental health of the force. What is the feasibility of 
providing sailors with career incentives for individual physical 
readiness achievements and are there plans to incorporate this into 
future talent management initiatives?
    Secretary Del Toro. and Admiral Gilday. Navy supports a holistic 
approach to overall wellness, recognizing that a tough and resilient 
mind, body, and spirit is essential to preparing one's self for the 
rigors of deployments and combat.
    Sailors are incentivized for their physical fitness in their 
periodic performance evaluations. The military bearing section 
considers a sailor's performance in physical readiness. These 
performance evaluations are considered when sailors compete for 
advancement.
    Commanding Officers and Officers in Charge are highly encouraged to 
further develop awards or incentive programs that encourage sailors to 
live healthier lifestyles. Examples include special liberty for 
excellence, award certificates for excellence and improvement, and 
sailors who score outstanding being exempt from command physical 
training for a period of time.

    24. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, during 
the hearing Senator Reed asked about sleep deprivation as a 
contributing factor to sailor mental health and suicide. You responded 
by saying that the suicide of the sailor he was referring to was partly 
due to their inability to sleep aboard the USS George Washington, 
undergoing RCOH. However, a Government Accountability Office (GAO) 
report in 2021 found that only 14 percent of deployed Surface Warfare 
Officers were receiving the recommended 7 or more hours of sleep needed 
for optimal performance and that the Navy was inconsistent in its 
efforts to ensure the mandatory amount of rest per 24-hour period. A 
survey of surface fleet officers and enlisted personnel drew similar 
conclusions. Fatigue management has not only been a causal factor in 
the USS Fitzgerald and USS John S. McCain collisions but it is shown to 
contribute to mental health issues. The Navy's own Mental Health 
Playbook issued in February states, ``Consistently, the data and the 
science show that if our people are not sleeping, eating, or 
exercising--they are at higher risk for mental health issues.'' How is 
the Navy implementing and enforcing Commander Naval Surface Forces 
Pacific Instruction/Commander Naval Surface Forces Atlantic Instruction 
3120.2A?
    Secretary Del Toro. and Admiral Gilday. The Navy is implementing 
the measures below to mitigate the effects of fatigue and improve the 
sleep obtained by Navy Surface forces.

      A 24-hour work and sleep cycle for all hands, every day.

      Target of 7.5 hours of sleep opportunity for all hands 
each 24-hour period, subject to operational tasking and manning. If not 
achievable in a single block, planned naps.

      Limits to the length of the work-day (12 hours planned, 
maximum of 14 hours)

      A shipboard routine that supports both rest and work 
(scheduled watch, meals, announcements, training, meetings).

      Specific, formal consideration of the risk of fatigue in 
planned and unplanned work and watch evolutions.

      Leveraging bio-monitoring, analytics, data-driven manning 
experiments, and additional research to further improve, supervised by 
our Human Factors Engineer, including our Human Systems Integration 
experts, and share best practices with other type commanders via the 
U.S. Fleet Forces Command & Commander, Pacific Fleet Fleet Operational 
Safety Council.

      Addressing physical barriers to quality sleep/sleep 
obtained and better watch environment including:

        Improved lighting for berthing and workspaces, 
mattresses, blankets, rack design, berthing noise, and berthing 
temperatures.

        Bridge lighting and equipment lighting/positioning 
improvements for day and night, bridge and combat information center 
paint schemes

        Partnership with Naval Sea Systems Command Human 
Systems Integrations and technical warrant holders.

      Training in these policies is provided at each milestone 
including the Basic Division Officer Indoctrination Course, Department 
Head School, and the Surface Command Course. Similar training is 
provided to each ship as part of the shipboard Basic Phase.

    Since 2022, to promote enforcement, the Navy has introduced two 
tools that provide near real-time data on sleep and fatigue at multiple 
echelons. Command Readiness, Endurance and Watchstanding (CREW) 
collects biometric sleep, activity and health data to provide near 
real-time information to the sailor, medical, and leaders. This 
overcomes the inaccuracy inherent in individuals' attempts to gauge the 
effects of fatigue on performance, and allows for timely, effective 
individual, team, unit-level and Force interventions and risk 
management. This effort is largely funded by the Military Operational 
Medicine Research Program (MOMRP) and builds on previous work to 
monitor COVID and a partnership with the Naval Health Research Center 
and Office of Naval Research, in addition to previous work with NASA 
and the trucking industry. Initial operational capability is pending 
additional funding.
    Additionally, Optimized Watch bill Logistics (OWL) uses data and 
individual qualifications in a sophisticated model for watch bill and 
work planning and management. Initial operating capacity is 2023 with 
several ships already enrolled. Like CREW, OWL is largely MOMRP funded. 
Modeling and decision tools are also embedded within the Surface 
Training and Readiness Management System (replacing the Relational 
Administrative Data Management system), which is in testing at sea for 
integration with the Consolidated Afloat Networks and Enterprise 
Service. OWL has a fatigue module that is based on schedules; once CREW 
is fully funded, it will provide actual fatigue data to OWL to aid 
decision makers.

    25. Secretary Senator Kaine. Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, how is 
the Navy implementing and enforcing the fatigue management 
recommendations made in the GAO-21-366, Navy Readiness report, 
particularly recommendations 1-4 related to collecting data, addressing 
causal factors, and identifying and assisting units that are not in 
compliance?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Afloat Safety Climate 
Assessment Survey is administered twice per Optimized Fleet Response 
Plan (OFRP) to each ship. This focused, peer-reviewed set of questions 
focuses on safety and sleep and provides detailed information on the 
amount of sleep achieved by each individual, with the data sorted by 
ship class and Department. To assist individual ships with compliance, 
the results are reviewed by the cognizant Type Commander and debriefed 
in-person to the Triad (CO/XO/CMC) with specific recommendations for 
improved sleep. To date, the average sleep has increased from 5.1 to 
5.25 hours since the surveys started in 2021, but further improvements 
will be contingent upon improved manning onboard ships. In addition to 
the length of sleep, the transition to circadian watches has been shown 
to reduce overall fatigue across the force. The surveys also show the 
main factors that impact the quality of sleep: the most frequently 
cited issues are work stress, mattresses, interference from other crew 
members, and rack curtains. Initiatives are underway with the NAVSEA 
Habitability Technical Warrant Holder to address the challenges 
associated with the berthing environment.
    Starting in 2023, each ship must conduct a quarterly self-
assessment in the Training and Operational Readiness Information 
Services program, to address adherence to the Crew Endurance Policy. 
Additionally, each ship must sign out a Commanding Officer's Standing 
Order that articulates a tailored policy to meet the requirements of 
the SURFOR instruction. This approach is designed to ensure a 
consistent deck-plate application of the instruction and a culture of 
self-assessment. External assessments are conducted once per OFRP 
during Mariner Skills Week as part of the Basic Phase.
    The Command Readiness, Endurance and Watchstanding (CREW) 
represents the primary effort by the Navy Surface Force to collect data 
on sailor fatigue, identify causal factors for sailor fatigue, and 
identify units not in compliance with Commander Naval Surface Forces 
Pacific Instruction/Commander Naval Surface Forces Atlantic Instruction 
3120.2A. CREW collects biometric sleep, activity and health data to 
provide near real-time information to the sailor, medical, and leaders, 
providing for systematic collection of quality and timely fatigue data 
from sailors that are accessible to operational commanders to support 
underway decisionmaking.
    Once fully implemented, CREW data on sailor fatigue will be 
utilized to identify, monitor, and evaluate factors that contribute to 
fatigue and inadequate sleep such as the effects of crew shortfalls, 
work requirements, administrative requirements, and collateral duties. 
Additionally, the data provided to operational and administrative 
leadership by CREW will allow for identification of those units that 
need greater assistance and attention in implementing the Navy's 
policies on fatigue.
                           hr transformation
    26. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, our 
office has received over 18,000 pieces of correspondence from 
constituents concerning Navy pay and personnel issues, ranging from 
inaccurate affiliation dates resulting in a break in service and loss 
of Transitional Assistance Management Program benefits, to DD-214 
errors and untimeliness that cause significant issues for 
servicemembers attempting to transition from the service. What is the 
status of your Human Resources modernization efforts and how do you 
plan to offer increased transparency and responsiveness (in addition to 
speed, accuracy and quality) to your processes?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The MyNavy H.R. system 
digital transformation is designed to improve services to all Active 
component and Reserve sailors and future recruits through a modernized 
MyNavy H.R. information technology (IT) system of systems. We are 
engaging in a number of lines of effort within transformation:
      1.  Enterprise Customer Relationship Management (eCRM)--focused 
on enhanced recruiting and maintaining customer relationships to 
provide transactional handoffs through a tiered service helpdesk model.
      2.  MyNavy All Access (MNAA)--dedicated to developing a single 
point of entry for the sailor to interact with and view data in the 
MyNavy H.R. environment via web and mobile applications.
      3.  Authoritative Data Environment (ADE)--the data service for 
MyNavy HR, providing a single, integrated, and authoritative source of 
data to enable workforce decisionmaking to improve sailor and fleet 
readiness.
      4.  Navy Personnel and Pay (NP2)--the integrated personnel and 
pay system that enhances how sailors receive pay support. NP2 leverages 
an audible, cloud-hosted software solution to enable Treasury-Direct 
disbursement and a single pay source.
      5.  Learning Stack (LS)--provides modernized content delivery and 
curriculum development to support on-demand training at the point of 
need.
    This IT modernization will enable improved operations in 
recruiting, personnel and pay support, assignment and distribution, 
training, and in other mission areas within the Personnel, Manpower and 
Training space. With regards to personnel and pay issues, MyNavy Career 
Center (MNCC) recently transformed the legacy, decentralized Personnel 
Support Detachment (PSD) model of 27 locations to align around the work 
and eliminate variability. It now consists of a Human Resources Service 
Center (HRSC) with call center locations in Millington, TN and Little 
Creek, VA; six Transaction Service Centers (TSC); a Travel Processing 
Center (TPC) in Millington; and 13 Regional Support Centers (RSC) to 
improve efficiency, accuracy, and training.
    Each TSC functions as a Center of Excellence (COE) for a specific 
major transaction type and is led by an O-5 or above commanding officer 
for accountability, transparency, responsiveness and to uphold a higher 
standard for Sailor Pay. RSCs are designed as the principal point of 
contact for leadership teams who are working through personnel and pay 
issues and to train Command Pay and Personnel Administrators (CPPAs).
    HRSC operates 24/7/365 and provides a wide range of assistance to 
sailors and their families. HRSC provides up-to-date information and 
resolves issues at the Tier 1 level. HRSC conducts ``warm handoffs'' to 
subject matter experts in our TSCs and one TPC if the situation 
requires action beyond the authority of HRSC agents.
    In order to deliver a simple IT solution to Personnel/Pay and 
increase the visibility, transparency, and responsiveness of the 
personnel and pay enterprise, the following items have recently been 
implemented for use by MNCC, command triads, and CPPAs:
      Enterprise Customer Relationship Management (eCRM). 
Allows MNCC to globally track, process, and manage most Personnel/Pay 
transactions. eCRM allows MNCC to track a transaction from the time it 
is submitted through completion, with full visibility of all actions 
taken.
      CPPA Dashboard. Increases transparency of transactions 
and allows command leaders to view individual CPPA performance metrics 
at the unit level.
      Enhanced Unit Commanders Financial Report (eUCFR). MNCC 
coordinated with the Defense Finance Accounting Service to develop the 
eUCFR, providing commands with a monthly snapshot of each sailors 
monthly pay and entitlements.
    MNCC continues to review and improve business processes for all 
types of personnel and pay transactions. As these processes improve 
MNCC has also been dedicated to increase Personnel/Pay knowledge and 
experience in our TSCs, RSCs, and CPPAs to further improve transaction 
responsiveness and accuracy.
                       submarine industrial base
    27. Senator Kaine. Secretary Del Toro, Congress has provided 
significant funding for investment in the submarine industrial base. 
How is the Navy deciding where that funding should go? Can you provide 
a summary of where these investments are being made?
    Secretary Del Toro. The Navy's ability to reach and sustain the 
required submarine production cadence of one Columbia-class submarine 
and two Virginia-class submarines per year is gated by addressing 
challenges to Submarine Industrial Base (SIB) capability, capacity, and 
workforce. SIB funding is addressing these challenges by investing in 
critical areas to include modernizing shipbuilder infrastructure, 
strengthening supply chain capability/capacity, scaling new 
technologies, addressing workforce trade skill gaps and constraints, 
expanding productive capacity via strategic outsourcing, and scaling 
government oversight of expanded industrial base efforts.
    Through significant analysis, the Navy has identified the most 
pressing needs within each of these areas and is providing resources to 
address.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
              shortfalls in civilian police force staffing
    28. Senator King. There is a DOD civilian police force shortage 
across the Department that has developed into a severe national 
security concern. In the State of Maine, this directly affects 
Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) and Naval Computer and 
Telecommunications Area Master Station Atlantic Detachment Cutler 
(Naval Support Area Cutler), with PNSY falling below 50 percent of 
their authorized force and 37 percent of their required, and Naval 
Support Area Cutler falling 32 percent below their authorized force and 
25 percent of their required.
    Admiral Gilday, how aware is the Navy of this issue, how long has 
this been occurring, and how is the Navy addressing these shortfalls?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is keenly aware of the challenges we 
continue to face attracting, hiring, and retaining security force 
personnel at PNSY and NSA Cutler. We have focused on recruiting and 
retaining talent for several years. We have employed a number of 
strategies to address the manning shortfalls; including expanded 
authorization and use of direct hiring capabilities for Police and 
Security positions, authorizing targeted recruitment, relocation and 
retention incentives, and raising the full performance level of Police 
Officer positions to the GS-7 level. Several CNIC Regions expanded 
outreach through Navy and State sponsored marketing, and hiring events 
targeted toward Police Officers have been carried out over the years to 
recruit local talent to expedite the hiring process. Further, CNIC has 
a focused Performance to Plan (P2P) working group that is assessing 
recruiting and retention challenges and proposing mitigations to reduce 
fill time and enable management's ability to respond to turnover.

    As it stands, multiple barriers contribute to the workforce 
shortage. Some include pay parity with civilian counterparts, the 
Commander, Navy Installations Command requirement to have a bachelor's 
degree (which is not required by police departments in the local area), 
and a lack of transferability of credentials/qualifications. For 
example, a Navy Master at Arms on the PNSY police force might not meet 
the hiring criteria to be a General Schedule (GS) police officer, given 
that the prerequisite for a new applicant is that they must have a 
bachelor's degree or like experience. Or, a 10-year veteran of the 
Maine State police would have to go to the Federal Law Enforcement 
Training Center or police academy since the mid-Atlantic region will 
not honor a waiver for a 20-year retired officer or anyone with a prior 
police academy with a law enforcement background.

    29. Senator King. Secretary Del Toro, of these barriers, which can 
the Navy remove, which require the DOD to remove, and which require 
changing by OPM? In addition, will pay levels need to be considered?
    Secretary Del Toro. OPM is the authority that establishes formal 
qualification requirements for jobs within the General Schedule 
employment system. The DON applies the OPM regulations when evaluating 
candidates for jobs in the Police Series (0083) and does not supplement 
these requirements with other qualification factors.
    A candidate for employment as a Police Officer may qualify for the 
position based on any of three criteria: 1) education, 2) experience, 
or 3) a combination of the two. New entrants to the 0083 series may 
qualify at grades GS-02 through GS-06. Qualification at a specific 
level is dependent upon the candidate's experience and/or education. 
Attainment of a bachelor's degree is not required under OPM 
qualifications in order to qualify at any grade level in the 0083 
series. Personnel with prior law enforcement (LE) experience may submit 
a waiver for LE training and police academy requirements. The waiver 
must be approved by the DOD Peace Officer Standards and Training (POST) 
Commission.

    30. Senator King. Admiral Gilday, would it be helpful to change 
policy and consider classifying base police as law enforcement 
officers?
    Admiral Gilday. Candidates who lack qualifying work experience 
related to the position may also seek qualification consideration by a 
substitution of education for experience. All Executive Agencies use 
the OPM established minimum qualification requirements, along with 
agency-prescribed specialized requirements to qualify candidates for 
Federal positions. Establishment of a Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) 
designation would create significant labor implications to include age 
requirements and benefit contributions.

    31. Senator King. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, has DOD or 
the Navy applied for direct-hire authority to address the issues 
identified at the named facilities?
    Secretary Del Toro. The DOD has Direct Hire Authority for Police 
Officer positions. The DON is taking advantage of the DHA to address 
the identified issues at the named facilities.

    32. Senator King. In talks with constituents of Maine impacted by 
this, a suggestion I received was to amend the recruitment process by 
hiring recruits as GS-5, processing them through their required 
training in the time that takes, and joining the field as GS-7, 
skipping GS-6.
    Secretary Del Toro, how feasible would change be, and what effects 
would it have across the organization?
    Secretary Del Toro. The experience and training completed at each 
GS level provide our civilian Police Officers with the necessary 
qualifications for career advancement. Adjusting the career development 
to allow for a two-grade interval pattern would not be consistent with 
current training requirements.
    Police Officer new hires have a rigorous training and development 
plan that includes specific work and exposures at each grade level. 
Adjusting the development plan to increase compensation without 
alignment to their skill would not result in improved quality of the 
work performed at the higher level without the on the job experience at 
the intervening level.
    It should be note that increasing the grade level is not the only 
way to increase pay for General Schedule (GS) employees. The Navy, 
similar to other civilian employing components and agencies, has the 
option to seek OPM approval of higher special rates of pay for a 
category of GS employees if a determination is made that pay increases 
are needed to address significant recruitment and/or retention 
difficulties. (See 5 U.S.C. 5305 and 5 CFR part 530, subpart C.)
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    33. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, Admiral Gilday, and General 
Berger, do you agree that if funding is needed for a project, it should 
be a part of the command/service budget?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The President's Budget 
represents the best balance and prioritization of resources to execute 
the National Defense Strategy and National Military Strategy. However, 
opportunities always exist to enhance the President's Budget, 
accelerate capabilities, and reduce warfighting risk should additional 
resources become available. In addition, as we operate over time, there 
can be emergent warfighting needs that are identified too late to be 
included in the annual President's Budget.
    General Berger. Yes.

    34. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, 
historically, have previous UPL items been included in the following 
year's base budget? Have UPL items from fiscal year 2023 been included 
in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail 
including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor executing the 
effort. If no, why not?
    Admiral Gilday. My understanding of the purpose of 10 U.S.C. 222 
directing the Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) is to identify items that 
are executable in the budget year in order to provide Congress with 
options to enhance or accelerate capabilities and reduce warfighting 
risk, should additional resources become available as Congress marks up 
the defense bills that year. While some UPL items may be included in 
the following year's budget, they are not necessarily correlated to the 
UPL. For example, maritime and aviation spares were identified on the 
fiscal year 2023 UPL as an executable way that Congress could enhance 
readiness in fiscal year 2023 if funding above the President's Budget 
Request was available. The fiscal year 2024 President's Budget includes 
funding for maritime and aviation spares to fund fiscal year 2024 
requirements--not because they were included on the fiscal year 2023 
UPL. The funding is related, but cannot be directly correlated. The 
Navy's Program Objective Memorandum (POM) process assesses each year's 
requirements to inform the President's Budget Request.
    General Berger. Yes, previous unfunded UPL items have historically 
been included in the following year's budget. Yes, unfunded fiscal year 
2023 UPL items have been included in the fiscal year 2024 budget. The 
information for those items is articulated in the fiscal year 2024 
budget justification material.

    35. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, do you agree 
that Federal agencies should be required to work within the confines of 
base budget process?
    Admiral Gilday. The base budget process includes the submission of 
the President's Budget Request, working with and supporting Congress in 
their review and oversight of the budget, and Congress' enactment of 
the final defense bills each year. This process is typically sufficient 
for the Navy to operate. However, there are circumstances where 
supplemental funding may be necessary. For example, in fiscal year 
2022-2023, the Department of Defense was challenged with resourcing 
support for Ukraine beyond our base budget, and fact-of-life increases 
needed in our base budget for higher than expected inflation. We are 
grateful to the Congress for supporting these emergent needs.
    General Berger. Yes.

    36. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, Secretary of 
Defense Austin supports legislation that would repeal the requirement 
for individual leaders to submit unfunded priority lists under 10 
U.S.C. 222a. He stated this publicly in a Senate Armed Services 
Committee hearing on March 28, 2023 and in a letter that Under 
Secretary Michael J. McCord sent on behalf on Secretary Austin to me on 
March 20, 2023. Do you plan to continue to submit unfunded priority 
lists?
    Admiral Gilday. As a Service Chief, I plan to meet the reporting 
requirements directed to me by Title 10 of the U.S. Code. Should 
Congress repeal 10 U.S.C. 222a, then I would no longer be required to 
submit my unfunded priorities list each year.
    General Berger. Yes.

    37. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, if you plan 
to submit unfunded priority lists in the future, why are you doing so 
despite Secretary of Defense Austin's support for the repeal of these 
required lists?
    Admiral Gilday. As a Service Chief, I plan to meet the reporting 
requirements directed to me by Title 10 of the U.S. Code. Should 
Congress repeal 10 U.S.C. 222a, then I would no longer be required to 
submit my unfunded priorities list each year.
    General Berger. While my term as the Commandant will end on 10 July 
2023, in order to be in compliance with 10 U.S.C. 222a, which requires 
Service Chiefs to submit a unfunded priority list, it is likely that 
future Commandants will submit a list.
                          information on upls
    38. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what was the 
cost of putting together this UPL list?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy developed the fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) as part of the POM-24 budget development process, 
so there was minimal additional cost. Emergent needs were added to the 
UPL as identified through normal execution processes, e.g. dry dock 
repairs needed at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and Trident Refit Facility 
Bangor.
    General Berger. There is no additional cost for putting together 
the UPL as it is part of our Planning, Programming, Budgeting and 
Execution process.

    39. Senator Warren. For each item on the unfunded priorities list 
you submit in response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following 
information:
    Admiral Gilday and General Berger, please provide a detailed 
description of the UPL.
    Admiral Gilday. Attached is the Navy fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) package provided to Congress, which includes a 
detailed description of each UPL item [Appendix].
    General Berger. In support of 10 U.S. Code Sec.  222a, I submitted 
a prioritized list of the Marine Corps' unfunded priorities for fiscal 
year 2024, which I respectfully asked the Senate Armed Services 
Committee to consider should additional funds above those requested in 
the Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget be made available. I have made 
extensive efforts in the fiscal year 2024 budget submission to assess, 
prioritize, and balance force capability, capacity, and readiness to 
most rapidly achieve Force Design objectives and build the Joint 
Force's Stand-in Force while maintaining the Nation's crisis response 
capabilities. The UPL submission reduces risk in executing the National 
Defense Strategy by prioritizing investment in the next LPD-17 Flight 
II San Antonio-class Warship (LPD-33), continuing a vital component in 
amphibious warfare ship formations to meet the demands of Distributed 
Maritime Operations and crisis response. It accelerates key Force 
Design warfighting investments and supporting modernization initiatives 
that advance the kill chain and increase our ability to credibly deter 
adversaries. Finally, military construction projects are listed that 
accelerate development of facilities supporting our future force. 
Please see the enclosure which I included with my letter to the 
Committee that provides detailed supporting material on each of the 32 
items requested in the Marine Corps Unfunded Priority List. [Enclosure 
1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    40. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what does 
the UPL purchase?
    Admiral Gilday. Attached is the Navy Fiscal Year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) package provided to Congress, which includes a 
list of each UPL item that Congress could procure if additional funding 
becomes available. [The Navy Fiscal Year 2024 Unfunded Priorities List 
has been retained in Committee files.]
    General Berger. Please see ``Item'' in Section I of the enclosure. 
[Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    41. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, please 
include detail on all end items with quantities, contractor full-time 
equivalents, etc.
    Admiral Gilday. Attached is the Navy Fiscal Year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) package provided to Congress, which includes a 
detailed description of each UPL item and the quantity where 
applicable. Some UPL items (e.g. maritime and aviation spare and repair 
parts) cannot be quantified at this time. Contractor full-time 
equivalents will be determined during contract negotiations should 
Congress enact appropriations for the UPL item. [The Navy Fiscal Year 
2024 Unfunded Priorities List has been retained in Committee files.]
    General Berger. Please see the table at the top of Section I of the 
enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    42. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what 
specific capability will the UPL provide?
    Admiral Gilday. Attached is the Navy fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) package provided to Congress, which includes a 
detailed description of each UPL item and the capability each item will 
support.
    General Berger. Please see Operational Impact in Section I of the 
enclosure and 11 in Section III. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in 
Committee files.]

    43. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what gap 
will this fill that is not in the base budget?
    Admiral Gilday. [Deleted.]
    General Berger. Please see 11 in Section III of the enclosure. 
[Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    44. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, how will 
this capability support objectives outlined in current National 
Security, Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    Admiral Gilday. [Deleted.]
    General Berger. Please see 11 in Section III of the enclosure. 
[Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    45. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what is the 
operational requirement? How does this UPL support current or future 
operations?
    Admiral Gilday. Attached is the Navy fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) package provided to Congress, which includes a 
detailed description of each UPL item and how each item will support 
current or future operations and requirements. [The Navy Fiscal Year 
2024 Unfunded Priorities List has been retained in Committee files.]
    General Berger. Please see ``OPERATIONAL IMPACT'' in Section I of 
the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    46. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what is the 
operational impact if this UPL is not funded in fiscal year 2024?
    Admiral Gilday. The President's Budget provides the best balance of 
investments to meet operational requirements within the directed fiscal 
topline. My understanding of the purpose of 10 U.S.C. 222 directing the 
Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) is to identify items that are executable 
in the budget year in order to provide Congress with options to enhance 
or accelerate capabilities and reduce warfighting risk, should 
additional resources become available as Congress marks up the defense 
bills that year. Thus, the operational impact of not funding the UPL is 
the missed opportunity to enhance or accelerate capabilities and reduce 
warfighting risk.
    General Berger. Please see ``OPERATIONAL IMPACT'' in Section I of 
the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    47. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, are there 
plans to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    Admiral Gilday. All fiscal year 2024 UPL items will be considered 
as we develop the fiscal year 2025 budget. Some UPL items are regularly 
included in our budget whether included on the UPL or not, e.g. 
maritime and aviation spares; and facilities sustainment, restoration, 
and modernization funding. The Navy's Program Objective Memorandum 
(POM) process assesses each year's requirements to inform the 
President's Budget Request. The POM-25 process is currently ongoing and 
the final fiscal year 2025 President's Budget is pre-decisional.
    General Berger. The fiscal year 2025 budget process is ongoing and 
this information cannot be shared at this time.

    48. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, why was this 
UPL not included in the fiscal year 2024 President's Budget submission?
    Admiral Gilday. The President's Budget provides the best balance of 
investments to meet operational requirements within the directed fiscal 
topline. My understanding of the purpose of 10 U.S.C. 222 directing the 
Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) is to identify items that are executable 
in the budget year in order to provide Congress with options to enhance 
or accelerate capabilities and reduce warfighting risk, should 
additional resources become available as Congress marks up the defense 
bills that year. The UPL also includes emergent warfighting needs that 
are identified too late to be included in the annual President's 
Budget, e.g. dry dock repairs needed at Puget Sound Naval Shipyard and 
Trident Refit Facility Bangor.
    General Berger. The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget submission 
reflects our extensive efforts to assess, prioritize and balance force 
capability, capacity, and readiness within a constrained topline.

    49. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what is the 
name of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    Admiral Gilday.

     1.  Maritime Targeting Cell Afloat (MTC-A) Development--Northrop 
Grumman

     2.  Fund ZEUS for DDG-1000 Class--Raytheon

     3.  Dry Dock Repairs for PSNS Investment Restoration and 
Modernization (RM)--Kiewit-Alberici

     4.  DDG-51 SEWIP Blk III (DDG 136-137)--Northrop Grumman, GD-BIW, 
HII

     5.  CVN 75 and CVN 80 SEWIP Blk III--Northrop Grumman, HII

     6.  E-2D Theater Combat Id and HECTR--Northrop Grumman

     7.  Navy Unique Fleet Essential Airlift Logistics KC-130J (+1 A/C 
Reserves)--Lockheed Martin

     8.  Targeted Facilities Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization 
(FSRM) Investment--Various Vendors competing

     9.  APN-6 Spares--Various vendors and depends on Program (air 
vehicle)

    10.  OPN-8 Maritime Spares--Various vendors and depends on program 
(ship type)

    11.  VIOLET--classified, will provide information through 
appropriate channels if requested.

    General Berger. Please see Section II of the enclosure. [Enclosure 
1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    50. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, how often 
has your command met with the vendor executing this effort? Please 
provide a list of all such meetings, and the agenda for these meetings?
    Admiral Gilday. Vendors are selected through a competitive process 
in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulations. For those items 
where contracts with vendors are already established, the Navy has 
frequent, ongoing contact as a normal course of program management. The 
focus of such contact ensures proper administration of contract 
requirements and oversight of contractor performance to confirm the 
effective delivery of goods and services to the Government.
    General Berger. Please see Section II of the enclosure. Vendors are 
selected through a competitive process in accordance with Federal 
Acquisition Regulations. For those items where contracts with vendors 
are already established, the Marine Corps has frequent, ongoing contact 
as a normal course of program management. The focus of such contact 
ensures proper administration of contract requirements and oversight of 
contractor performance to confirm the effective delivery of goods and 
services to the Government. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    51. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what is your 
history with this vendor? Please detail when the relationship began, 
the number of contracts applied for by this vendor, the number of 
contracts awarded to this vendor, and if you have had a personal 
relationship with the vendor.
    Admiral Gilday. Vendors are selected through a competitive process 
in accordance with Federal Acquisition Regulations. In the conduct of 
my duties as Chief of Naval Operations, any relationship with vendors 
providing goods or services to the Navy is on a professional basis and 
in accordance with Government ethics rules.
    General Berger. Please see Section III of the enclosure. Vendors 
are selected through a competitive process in accordance with Federal 
Acquisition Regulations. In the conduct of my duties as Commandant, any 
relationship with vendors providing goods or services to the Marine 
Corps is on a professional basis and in accordance with Government 
ethics rules. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    52. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, has anyone 
who formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in 
meetings? What is their name, what was their position, and when did you 
meet with them?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy does not track this level of information. 
However, Government ethics rules impose employment restrictions on 
personnel after leaving the Department of Defense. This includes 
representational bans that prevent individuals from representing a 
vendor before the Government regarding any official action for a 
certain period of time.
    General Berger. The Marine Corps does not track this level of 
information. However, Government ethics rules impose employment 
restrictions on personnel after leaving the Department of Defense. This 
includes representational bans that prevent individuals from 
representing a vendor before the Government regarding any official 
action for a certain period of time.

    53. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, in which 
city/State will the UPL be executed?
    Admiral Gilday. The locations would vary with each UPL.

     1.  Maritime Targeting Cell Afloat (MTC-A) Development--Northrop 
Grumman (Aurora, CO)

     2.  Fund ZEUS for DDG-1000 Class
          Total Ship Computing Environment (TSCE): Raytheon 
(Tewksbury, MA & Portsmouth, RI)
          Integrated Combat System (ICS): Lockheed Martin 
(Moorestown, NJ)
          AN/SPY-6 radar: Raytheon (Andover, MA)
          Installed on DDG 1000 Class in San Diego, CA during a 
maintenance avail

     3.  Dry Dock Repairs for PSNS Investment Restoration and 
Modernization (RM)--Kiewit-Alberici (Bremerton, WA)

     4.  DDG-51 SEWIP Blk III (DDG 136-137)--Northrop Grumman 
(Baltimore, MD);
          Installed on DDG 136 BIW (Bath, ME)
          Installed on DDG 137 at HII (Pascagoula, MS)

     5.  CVN 75 and CVN 80 SEWIP Blk III--Northrop Grumman (Baltimore, 
MD)

     6.  E-2D Theater Combat Id and HECTR--Northrop Grumman (Melbourne, 
FL)

     7.  Navy Unique Fleet Essential Airlift Logistics KC-130J (+1 A/C 
Reserves)--Lockheed Martin (Marietta, GA)

     8.  Targeted Facilities Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization 
(FSRM) Investment --Various vendors competing

     9.  APN-6 Spares--Various vendors and depends on Program (air 
vehicle)

    10.  OPN-8 Maritime Spares--Various vendors and depends on program 
(ship type)

    11.  VIOLET--classified, will provide information through 
appropriate channels if requested.
    General Berger. Please see II.3. and II.4 Section II of the 
enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    54. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, the UPL identifies items that are executable 
in the budget year in order to provide Congress with options to enhance 
or accelerate capabilities and reduce warfighting risk.
    General Berger. Please see III.3 and III.4 in Section III of the 
enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    55. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what is the 
anticipated contract award date if the UPL receives funding?
    Admiral Gilday. Funding vehicles are in place for every UPL. The 
obligation and execution of funds would vary depending on if Congress 
funded a UPL and the project funded.
    General Berger. Please see 8b of Section III of the enclosure. 
[Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    56. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what funding 
lines are associated with this UPL?
    Admiral Gilday. Below is the Navy fiscal year 2024 Unfunded 
Priorities List (UPL) with appropriation, line title, and line item 
numbers identified for each UPL item.
[GRAPHIC(S) NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]

    General Berger. Please see the table at the top of Section I of the 
enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    57. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded 
simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each appropriation 
stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    Admiral Gilday. Any funding enacted for the Navy fiscal year 2024 
Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) will be used to enhance or accelerate 
capabilities and reduce warfighting risk as identified. However, 
funding the identified multiple appropriations together enables better 
integration of effort and reduces delays. The unfunded portions may be 
requested in future budget requests to complete the identified UPL 
item/effort and deliver the subsequent benefit.
    General Berger. Please see table at the top of Section I of the 
enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee files.]

    58. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, how much was 
enacted and obligated (or expended for Research, Development, Test, and 
Evaluation) in fiscal years 2022-2023 for this requirement?
    Admiral Gilday. The table below shows the enacted and obligated 
(and expended for RDT&E) amounts for fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 
2023 for each Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) item based on the line 
item, program element, and/or ship hull. The UPL informs Congress of 
ways they can enhance, accelerate, or reduce risk for existing line 
items/program elements should additional resources become available.


      Fiscal year 2023 obligation/expenditure data is as of 18 
May 2023.

      For UPL priority #7, the SCN funding data shows DDG 136 
and DDG 137 (fiscal year 2021 ships) cost to complete.

      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``Carrier 
Replacement Program'' shows CVN 80 funding.

      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``CVN Refueling 
Overhauls'' shows CVN 75 refueling overhaul funding.

    General Berger. Please see the ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    59. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, how much was 
requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    Admiral Gilday. The table below shows the amount requested in the 
fiscal year 2024 President's Budget for each Unfunded Priorities List 
(UPL) item based on the line item, program element, and/or ship hull. 
The table shows both the fiscal year 2024 and Future Years Defense 
Program requests. The UPL informs Congress of ways they can enhance, 
accelerate, or reduce risk for existing line items/program elements 
should additional resources become available.


      For UPL priority #7, the SCN funding data shows DDG 136 
and DDG 137 (fiscal year 2021 ships) cost to complete.

      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``Carrier 
Replacement Program'' shows CVN 80 funding.

      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``CVN Refueling 
Overhauls'' shows CVN 75 refueling overhaul funding.

    General Berger. Please see the ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    60. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, is there a 
tail associated with this UPL?
    Admiral Gilday. Yes, most items in the President's Budget and on 
the Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) have associated tail costs. For 
example, the procurement of a KC-130J aircraft will require additional 
manpower, training, operations, spares and repair parts, and 
maintenance costs when it delivers to the fleet. Some items, such as 
aviation and maritime spares, are continuous investments needed each 
year to sustain the overall Navy fleet.
    General Berger. Please see ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    61. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, is any tail 
funded in the future years defense plan?
    Admiral Gilday. The table below shows the amount requested in the 
fiscal year 2024 President's Budget for each Unfunded Priorities List 
(UPL) item based on the line item, program element, and/or ship hull. 
The table shows both the fiscal year 2024 and Future Years Defense 
Program requests. The UPL informs Congress of ways they can enhance, 
accelerate, or reduce risk for existing line items/program elements 
should additional resources become available.
    For all UPL items except for the KC-130J, some funding is 
programmed over the FYDP of the fiscal year 2024 President's Budget. If 
Congress enacts appropriations to procure the KC-130J in fiscal year 
2024, then Navy will include ``tail funding'' for the aircraft in the 
fiscal year 2025 President's Budget FYDP based on when it delivers to 
the fleet.


      For UPL priority #7, the SCN funding data shows DDG 136 
and DDG 137 (fiscal year 2021 ships) cost to complete.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``Carrier 
Replacement Program'' shows CVN 80 funding.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``CVN Refueling 
Overhauls'' shows CVN 75 refueling overhaul funding.
    General Berger. Please see ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    62. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, please 
describe how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 
years.
    Admiral Gilday. The table below shows the amount requested in the 
fiscal year 2024 President's Budget for each Unfunded Priorities List 
(UPL) item based on the line item, program element, and/or ship hull. 
The table shows both the fiscal year 2024 and Future Years Defense 
Program requests. The UPL informs Congress of ways they can enhance, 
accelerate, or reduce risk for existing line items/program elements 
should additional resources become available. The cost per year may 
change if Congress enacts funding for the UPL items in fiscal year 
2024. In some cases, accelerating funding may result in reduced costs 
per year over the next 5 years, pending contract negotiations and 
revisions to the program schedules.


      For UPL priority #7, the SCN funding data shows DDG 136 
and DDG 137 (fiscal year 2021 ships) cost to complete.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``Carrier 
Replacement Program'' shows CVN 80 funding.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``CVN Refueling 
Overhauls'' shows CVN 75 refueling overhaul funding.
    General Berger. Please see the ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    63. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, please 
provide in detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this 
requirement, including if it was in the base budget or UPL.
    Admiral Gilday. The table below shows the fiscal year 2022 and 
fiscal year 2023 amounts requested in the President's Budgets, included 
on the Navy's UPLs, and enacted by Congress for each UPL item based on 
the line item, program element, and/or ship hull. The UPL informs 
Congress of ways they can enhance, accelerate, or reduce risk for 
existing line items/program elements should additional resources become 
available.


      For UPL priority #7, the SCN funding data shows DDG 136 
and DDG 137 (fiscal year 2021 ships) cost to complete.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``Carrier 
Replacement Program'' shows CVN 80 funding.
      For UPL priority #8, the SCN funding for ``CVN Refueling 
Overhauls'' shows CVN 75 refueling overhaul funding.
    General Berger. Please see ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    64. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, if the 
requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will that 
be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution cycle?
    Admiral Gilday. My understanding of the purpose of 10 U.S.C. 222 
directing the Unfunded Priorities List (UPL) is to identify items that 
are executable in the budget year in order to provide Congress with 
options to enhance or accelerate capabilities and reduce warfighting 
risk, should additional resources become available as Congress marks up 
the defense bills that year. While some UPL items may be included in 
the following year's budget, they are not necessarily correlated to the 
UPL. For example, maritime and aviation spares were identified on the 
fiscal year 2023 UPL as an executable way that Congress could enhance 
readiness in fiscal year 2023 if funding above the President's Budget 
Request was available. The Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget includes 
funding for maritime and aviation spares to fund fiscal year 2024 
requirements--not because they were included on the fiscal year 2023 
UPL. The funding is related, but cannot be directly correlated. The 
Navy's Program Objective Memorandum (POM) process assesses each year's 
requirements to inform the President's Budget Request.
    General Berger. Please see ``Current Funding Profile'' table in 
Section I of the enclosure. [Enclosure 1 has been retained in Committee 
files.]

    65. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, please 
provide photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    Admiral Gilday. Below are photos of the items on the Navy fiscal 
year 2024 Unfunded Priorities List (UPL). Some UPL items are technology 
development, so a photo of the platform on which the technology will be 
used is provided. Some UPL items include a variety of efforts or parts, 
so a representative photo of the UPL item is provided as an example.






      #4. VIOLET is classified--details available at a higher 
classification.
    General Berger. Please see the photos of each of the 32 items 
requested.
    1 (+1) LPD-17 Flight II (LPD-33)
    
    
    2 CH-53K Initial and Outfitting Spares
    
    
    3 Project 7/11--Modular Operations Cells
    
    
    4 (+2) KC-130J Aircraft and Initial Spares
    
    

    5 Distributed Common Ground/Surface System-Marine Corps (DCGS-MC) 
All-Source SCI Workstations


    6 Family of Field Medical Equipment (FFME) Damage Control 
Resuscitation (DCR) and Damage Control Surgery (DCS) Equipment Sets


    7 (+4) AN/TPS-80 G/ATOR Radar
    
    
    8 Satellite Communications Terminal, Network-on-the-Move (NOTM)
    
    
    9 Joint Light Tactical Vehicles and Trailers
    
    
    10 Ultra-Light Tactical Vehicle--High Power (ULTV-HP) Purchase
    
    
    11 Digital Interoperability (DI)--Marine Agile Network Gateway Link 
(MANGL) Roll-Up


    12 Ultra-Light-Weight Camouflage Netting System (ULCANS)
    
    
    13 Joint All Domain Command and Control (JADC2) / Testing, 
Evaluation and Engineering Environment


    14 (+4) F-35B Engine/Lift System USMC Spares
    
    
    15 USMC MAGTF Defensive Cyberspace Operation-Internal Defensive 
Measures (DCO-IDM) Suites (MDS)


    16 Marine Corps Cyberspace Environment (MCCE)--Archimedes Program
    
    
    17 Joint Marine Innovation Unit (MIU) Fusion and MARFORCYBER 
Continuity of Operations Site


    18 (+1) KC-130J Weapons System Trainer and Initial Spares
    
    
    19 Demolition Equipment Set, Squad Engineer/Explosive Hazard Defeat 
Systems


    20 (+3) UC-12W(ER) Beechcraft King Air 350ER with Cargo Door and 
Initial Spares


    21 Multi-Terrain Loader--Replacement
    
    
    22 H-1 Digital Interoperability (DI) Link-16
    
    
    23 H-1 Digital Interoperability (DI) Mobile User Objective System 
(MUOS)


    24 P875 Water Reclamation Facility Compliance Upgrade, MCB Kaneohe 
Bay, HI


    25 P1556 10th Marines Maintenance & Operations Complex, MCB Camp 
Lejeune, NC


    26 P258 2D LAAD Maintenance and Operations Facilities, MCAS Cherry 
Point, NC


    27 P982 Consolidated Communication Facility, MCLB Albany, GA
    
    
    28 P1499 Corrosion Repair Facility Replacement, MCB Camp Lejeune, 
NC


    29 P1546 Amphibious Combat Vehicle Shelters, MCB Camp Lejeune, NC
    
    
    30 P521 Fire/Emergency Response Station (53 Area) Replacement, MCB 
Camp Pendleton, CA


    31 P100 Unspecified Minor Construction
    
    
    32 P101 USMC Military Construction Planning & Design
    
    
    This information is provided in the supporting material 
accompanying the Marine Corps fiscal year 2024 Unfunded Priority List.
                  mental health and suicide prevention
    66. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what steps 
are the Navy and Marine Corps taking to integrate the recommendations 
of the Suicide Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee 
(SPRIRC) and when does it expect these recommendations to be 
implemented?
    Admiral Gilday. Upon receipt of the Suicide Prevention and Response 
Independent Review Committee report, the Secretary of Defense directed 
the immediate implementation of several recommendations. These 
addressed servicemember well-being and access to behavioral and mental 
health care along with establishing a Suicide Prevention Implementation 
Working Group as the primary body to assess the advisability and 
feasibility of implementing each of the remaining recommendations.
    General Berger. On March 22, 2022, the Secretary of Defense 
established the Suicide Prevention and Response Independent Review 
Committee (SPRIRC) to conduct a comprehensive review of the 
Department's efforts to address and prevent suicide. The Committee 
provided a range of recommendations to eliminate suicide in the 
military. The SECDEF's SPRIRC issued its final report on February 24, 
2023, and made 127 recommendations. The Marine Corps fully supports 
efforts to reduce suicide. Marine Corps representatives are serving on 
most of the 20 sub-working groups and have begun developing 
implementation plans for the IRC recommendations. The Marine Corps 
continues efforts to reduce suicides by focusing on integrated and 
comprehensive efforts. We will continue to invest at every level of our 
Corps to ensure marines know how to recognize signs of a teammate who 
is struggling, and where to go for resources.

    67. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, the SPRIRC 
report emphasizes the critical need to limit or reduce access to highly 
lethal methods for suicide. What steps are you taking to reduce access 
to these methods, particularly firearms, and which of the SPRIRC 
recommendations regarding lethal means reduction do you plan to 
implement?
    Admiral Gilday. Lethal means safety is a critical component of 
Navy's suicide prevention program. The Navy has continued its 
partnership with the Defense Suicide Prevention Office and Department 
of Veterans Affairs to provide sailors with over 413,400 gunlocks.
    Navy promotes the voluntary use of gunlocks and other safe storage 
methods for privately owned firearms. If a sailor demonstrates suicidal 
ideations or presents themselves at risk for causing harm to others, it 
is a requirement for the health professional and/or commander who 
witnesses these action to ask the member to store their privately owned 
firearms and ammunition for temporary safekeeping. This step must be 
entirely voluntary for the sailor and for a duration determined solely 
by the owner of the firearm. The Navy also continues to work with the 
Defense Suicide Prevention and the other Services on how best to 
highlight the importance of safe firearm storage practices.
    General Berger. The SECDEF's SPRIRC issued its final report on 
February 24, 2023, and made 127 recommendations. The Marine Corps fully 
supports efforts to reduce suicide. We are working with the Office of 
the Secretary of Defense to review the recommendations and develop 
implementation plans. Reducing access to lethal means is an important 
aim and part of the SPRIRC's recommendations. Gun locks are provided 
with every purchase of a firearm at Marine Corps Exchanges, and safes 
and other locking devices are available for sale. The Marine Corps also 
has been working with the Department of Veterans Affairs to distribute 
gun locks throughout the Marine Corps. Additionally, lethal means and 
firearm safety messaging are being disseminated to marines and families 
to increase suicide prevention and lethal means safety awareness. Other 
strategies include our Suicide Prevention Podcast Series, Welcome 
Aboard Briefs, and Suicide Prevention and Lethal Means Safety Toolkit, 
all of which provide suicide prevention and lethal means safety 
education and resources.

    68. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what mental 
health services do you provide to Navy and Marine Corps-affiliated 
civilians and contractors and what steps do you plan to take to support 
those communities in suicide prevention?
    Admiral Gilday. The Department of the Navy (DON) Civilian Employee 
Assistance Program (CEAP) provides services to civilian employees and 
their families. The DON regularly reminds employees about DONCEAP 
services and encourages them to seek assistance. DONCEAP services 
include mental health counseling, suicide prevention, educational 
materials, and webinars. Employees have continuous access to many of 
these services, twenty-four hours a day, 7 days a week. DON civilian 
employees have increased their use of DONCEAP services over the course 
of the last 3 years.
    Navy and Marine Corps leadership will continue to encourage 
employees about DONCEAP services as well as the importance of 
cultivating healthy wellness habits, including mental health. 
Supervisors are reminded to include the availability of DONCEAP 
services when counseling employees on leave and workplace flexibility 
options. These flexibilities include self-help and caring for eligible 
family members. DON leadership believes that initiating regular 
conversations surrounding mental and emotional well-being is 
instrumental in normalizing and destigmatizing receiving mental health 
treatment and fostering a healthier workforce.
    The DON is committed to supporting civilian employee well-being and 
ensuring that employees are aware of available mental health and 
suicide prevention services.
    General Berger. Each Federal executive branch agency has an 
Employee Assistance Program (EAP). An EAP is a voluntary, confidential 
program that helps employees work through various life challenges that 
may adversely affect job performance, health, and personal well-being 
to optimize an organization's success. EAP services include 
assessments, counseling, and referrals for additional services to 
employees with personal and/or work-related concerns, such as stress, 
financial issues, legal issues, family problems, office conflicts, and 
alcohol and substance use disorders. EAPs also often work with 
management and supervisors providing advanced planning for situations, 
such as organizational changes, legal considerations, emergency 
planning, and response to unique traumatic events. An essential role of 
Federal Work-Life and EAP Coordinators involves reducing the stigma 
associated with seeking support around mental wellness.

    69. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday and General Berger, what steps 
are the Navy and Marine Corps taking to address concerns about drug 
overdoses among its Active Duty servicemembers?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy takes drug misuse seriously and recognizes 
that even one overdose is one too many and has enacted the following 
actions to prevent drug overdoses:
      Educate leaders on the dangers of misusing prescription 
drugs to ensure early warning signs of misuse are identified.
      Educate sailors and their family members on properly 
disposing of unused and outdated medications and encourage them to 
dispose of medications following proper disposal procedures. The Navy 
supports the Drug Enforcement Administration's ``Prescription Drug Take 
Back'' initiative to turn in unused and outdated prescriptions.
      Increased urinalysis testing for the most commonly 
misused prescription drugs. The Navy monitors the prescription drug 
positives to identify specific drug and demographic trends.
      Promote information sharing across the medical continuum 
of care to deter Navy personnel from inappropriately gaining access to 
and using prescription drugs in a manner other than it was prescribed.
    To further prevent drug overdoses, specifically opioids, the Navy 
also follows Department of Defense (DOD) policy that promotes the use 
of evidence-based pain management guided by clinical practice 
guidelines to effectively prevent acute pain, treat acute and chronic 
pain, promote non-pharmacologic treatment, and minimize the use of 
opioids with appropriate prescribing only when indicated. The DOD also 
makes opioid antagonist reversal medications (i.e., naloxone) available 
and promotes their use by military medical treatment facility providers 
and pharmacies in conjunction with patient education and training. 
Substance use identification, education, and awareness activities are a 
key component to the DOD and Navy's efforts at preventing or reducing 
drug misuse and overdose.
    General Berger. Urinalysis testing includes illicit and 
prescription drugs, including marijuana and opiates. One hundred 
percent of urine samples are now tested for fentanyl, which will assist 
in efforts to assess fentanyl misuse in the Marine Corps. While the 
percent of marines testing positive for fentanyl remains very low, the 
Marine Corps did see an increase in fentanyl positives in fiscal year 
2022 compared to previous years (.01 percent of all marines tested 
compared to .007 percent in fiscal year 2021 and .008 percent in fiscal 
year 2020).

    70. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday, what steps is the Navy taking 
to better understand the needs of servicemembers living aboard aircraft 
carriers to prevent further suicides, as occurred on the USS George 
Washington, and those at maintenance centers such as those at the Mid-
Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy reinforces the importance of access to the 
full continuum of mental health (MH) resources for our sailors, while 
aiming to utilize the right care, at the right level, at the right 
time. There is ``no wrong door'' for our sailors and marines to get 
help through MH services in primary care and specialty clinics, 
embedded within the Fleet, and via virtual health (VH) platforms. Non-
medical MH services are available for sailors and their family members 
through Fleet and Family Support Centers, Military and Family Life 
Counseling, and Military OneSource. Navy Chaplains provide confidential 
counseling and are important in ensuring spiritual readiness and 
resiliency of the Naval Force.
    Embedded Mental Health (EMH) remains vital for Fleet and Fleet 
Marine Force, with just over 36 percent of Active Duty mental health 
providers and 31 percent of behavioral health technicians assigned to 
EMH billets. The Navy also recently assigned Chaplains to guided 
missile destroyers to provide confidential counseling while ensuring 
spiritual readiness and resiliency of the Naval Force.

    71. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday, what steps is the Navy taking 
to respond to those identified needs of those servicemembers and reduce 
the risk of suicide of those who are stationed on aircraft carriers and 
at maintenance centers?
    Admiral Gilday. One of the Navy's key initiatives in addressing 
mental health needs is a recently developed ``Mental Health Playbook'' 
released in February 2023. The Playbook is designed to support command 
leaders in preventing mental health issues from occurring and, when 
they do, to connect sailors with the proper mental health care, at the 
right level, at the right time.
    The Playbook enables all sailors to share an understanding of how 
to conduct mental health preventive maintenance and where to go for 
additional resources. The Navy must continue to prioritize access to 
the full continuum of mental health and wellness support resources for 
our sailors available ashore, within the Fleet, and via virtual health 
platforms.

    72. Senator Warren. Admiral Gilday, what steps is the Navy taking 
to provide more mental health resources to the needs of those 
servicemembers who are stationed on aircraft carriers and at 
maintenance centers?
    Admiral Gilday. Navy Medicine is committed to a comprehensive 
approach to support Fleet readiness through collaboration with 
stakeholders to address access to mental health resources. In effort to 
provide greater resources, Naval Surface Force, U.S. Pacific Fleet 
opened a new Embedded Mental Health facility in October 2022 to ensure 
fast and quality access to mental health care for their operational 
sailors. The facility also provides consultation to leadership triads 
(Commanding Officer, Executive Officer, Senior Enlisted Leader) and 
training for medical personnel and crews.
    As further mental health support, chaplains were recently added on 
guided missile destroyers. President's Budget 2024 includes a request 
for additional end strength for Operational Forces Embedded Mental 
Health Programs to improve access to care for marines and sailors in 
the Operational Forces by reducing the time for evaluation and 
treatment. This increase includes 25 Psychiatrists, 18 Clinical 
Psychologists, 11 Licensed Clinical Social Workers, and 47 Behavioral 
Health Technicians (54 officer and 47 enlisted).
    President's Budget 2024 also includes a request for additional end 
strength for USMC Medical Battalions to provide health service support 
to the Marine Expeditionary Force through forward resuscitative health 
care capabilities. The personnel addition includes eight officers (3 
Medical Corps, 4 Medical Service Corps, and 1 Nurse Corps).
    Further, the Navy is working with the Defense Health Agency and 
entering into agreements for additional clinical support from the 
staffs at military medical treatment facilities to provide assistance 
on ships or on installations.

    73. Senator Warren. Ongoing Naval Criminal Investigative Service 
(NCIS) Investigation into the Death of Lance Corporal Ronald Valentin
    Secretary Del Toro, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service is 
continuing to investigate the death of Lance Corporal Ronald Valentin, 
USMC, who died in 2018. Five years later, this investigation continues 
to be ongoing with little answers for his family and they remain 
concerned about the lack of regular updates and information that they 
have been given by NCIS. Secretary Del Toro, will you commit to NCIS 
providing the family of Lance Corporal Valentin a monthly call to 
update them on the latest status of their son's investigation?
    Secretary Del Toro. NCIS has provided regular updates to the family 
of LCpl Valentin throughout the investigation and has noted recent 
contact and lengthy conversations with Ms. Ortiz (LCpl Valentin's 
mother) on the following dates: October 11, 2022; October 27, 2022; 
December 14, 2022; January 30, 2023; March 23, 2023; and May 3, 2023. 
The investigation has remained active since 2018 and NCIS is committed 
to completing this investigation in the most expedient manner possible, 
while ensuring all possible investigative leads are pursued. Because 
this remains an active criminal investigation, NCIS must limit the 
information being released in order to preserve the integrity of the 
investigation. Though NCIS seeks to be transparent and provide as much 
information as possible to the family, in some instances, no new 
information has been available to share.

    74. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, when do you anticipate the 
investigation into the death of Lance Corporal Valentin will be 
completed?
    Secretary Del Toro. NCIS is working diligently to explore all 
logical leads in the investigation as quickly as possible while 
ensuring those steps are accomplished in the most effective manner 
possible. Determining an estimated date of completion of the active 
investigation is difficult given the complexity of the investigation 
and the possibility that additional investigative tasks may be 
identified from results of the remaining identified tasks. NCIS has 
completed hundreds of individual actions during this investigation and 
is currently pursuing the re-interview of several witnesses in an 
effort to identify additional information to explain the circumstances 
of Lance Corporal Valentin's death. Additional laboratory analyses have 
also recently been requested and are currently ongoing.

    75. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, what has contributed to the 
delays of this investigation as it continues into its fifth year 
without a conclusion?
    Secretary Del Toro. This investigation has remained active since 
2018 and NCIS continues to pursue all potential leads that might 
provide relevant information to explain the details of how Lance 
Corporal Valentin died, if criminal activity was involved, and if so, 
who was responsible. NCIS continues to support this investigation with 
multiple NCIS personnel around the globe.

    76. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, during this investigation, 
the family of Lance Corporal Valentin has faced several changes in the 
case agents they are working with. How often do case agents turn over 
and what is the process for notifying the family in advance when the 
case agent will change?
    Secretary Del Toro. NCIS strives to limit the number of case agents 
in all cases and especially in complex investigations such as this one. 
As the incident occurred in an overseas location, there are regular 
cycles where NCIS Special Agents move, or complete a Permanent Change 
of Station (PCS), from Okinawa to other offices throughout the world. 
Per DOD PCS regulations, Okinawa, Japan, is designated as a 2-year 
tour, wigth option to request and extension. Three case agents have 
been assigned to this investigation since it was initiated in 2018 and 
each change was made as a result of the PCS of the assigned case agent. 
When the assigned case agent changes, the family would be notified 
prior to that occurring during a regular update.

    77. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, the family of Lance 
Corporal Valentin has disclosed that they initially received the body 
of a different individual instead when Lance Corporal Valentin was 
being returned to his family. Please explain why this incident 
occurred, if there are any other cases when NCIS has provided the 
incorrect body to other families, and what steps NCIS is taking to 
ensure this does not happen to another family.
    Secretary Del Toro. The Port Authority at John F. Kennedy Airport 
(JFK) and the commercial airline responsible for the transportation of 
Lance Corporal Ronald Valentin's remains misidentified the aircraft 
carrying his casketed remains resulting in this unfortunate mishap. 
This misidentification was communicated to family members and their 
Marine Casualty Assistance Calls Officer awaiting his arrival at JFK, 
to the family's funeral director who was present to receive custody of 
his remains from the commercial airline, and to the Marine Honor Guard 
who was onsite to conduct planeside honors. This resulted in the 
conduct of planeside honors of the incorrect casketed remains by the 
marines and transfer of custody from the commercial airline to the 
family's funeral home. Upon discovery of this mishap, the incorrect 
remains were returned to the custody of the commercial airline. Lance 
Corporal Valentin's casketed remains, accompanied by his commanding 
officer and escorted by a uniformed marine, were transferred via 
planeside honors conducted by the Marine Honor Guard to the family's 
funeral home. Lance Corporal Valentin's remains were escorted at all 
times throughout the process and treated with the utmost dignity and 
honor.

    78. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, the family of Lance 
Corporal Valentin has expressed concerns that the cameras at Camp 
Hansen had stopped working in July 2018 and were still not working at 
the time of Valentin's death at the end of August. Why had these 
cameras not been fixed yet at the time of Valentin's death, how many of 
these cameras were not working, and how long were they inoperable 
before and after his death?
    Secretary Del Toro. These cameras were maintained by a DLA 
contract. The Marine Corps has no record of operational status or 
maintenance on these cameras.

    79. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, the family of Lance 
Corporal Valentin has expressed concern regarding whether the 
investigators were able to access the information in Valentin's phone. 
Has NCIS been able to open and access the information in Valentin's 
phone?
    Secretary Del Toro. Because this remains an active criminal 
investigation, this information is not releasable in a public forum. 
The family has been provided updates regarding the phone's status.
                  naval criminal investigative service
    80. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro, in September 2022, the 
Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report on 
``Servicemember Absences: DOD Actions Needed to Enhance Related Data, 
Procedures, and Staffing.'' This report found that NCIS was not 
properly identifying the number of special agents it needed to conduct 
criminal investigations. The Department of Defense stated in February 
2023 that it has begun to keep a record of the number of special agents 
it needs. What steps is NCIS taking specifically to fulfill this 
recommendation?
    Secretary Del Toro. NCIS disagreed with the GAO finding that NCIS 
does not have a process to determine staffing requirements to conduct 
criminal investigations. NCIS has an overall End Strength that is 
composed of special agent and non-special agent positions. From there, 
NCIS Director has discretion to properly allocate the resources 
authorized to meet strategic mission objectives.
    NCIS maintains a dynamic approach to staffing occupational series 
in order to maximize recruiting efforts and maintain End Strength fill 
rates within authorized budgetary targets. Creating a process that 
forces rigidity on 1811 staffing levels, as a measure of mission 
success, fails to account for the diverse occupational series that 
contribute to the criminal mission and limits the ability to surge to 
emergent mission need.
    Since April 2022, NCIS keeps a record of the number of special 
agents needed to support NCIS' mission. At the beginning of each fiscal 
year, NCIS will update that number and keep previous years' numbers for 
historical trending. Specifically, NCIS is taking the following steps:
      1.  NCIS maintains data of numbers of special agents each fiscal 
year.
      2.  This dashboard will include data from past and future fiscal 
years for comparison.
      3.  NCIS' process is to record the necessary number of special 
agents at the start of each fiscal year.
      4.  NCIS will keep a similar record for future fiscal years.

    81. Senator Warren. Secretary Del Toro and General Berger, in the 
same GAOreport, GAO found that the Marine Corps lacks procedures to 
determine whether the absence of a servicemember is involuntary or 
voluntary, which is important in helping to ``ensure that the absence 
is reported to the appropriate military organization for further 
action, to include notifying and assisting the servicemember's family 
and investigating any criminal activity associated with the absence.'' 
In February 2023, DOD stated there were Marine Corps working groups 
being held to establish procedures addressing this recommendation and 
that these procedures would be issued by March 2023. What is the status 
of these working groups and have these procedures been completed? If 
so, please provide a copy of them.
    Secretary Del Toro. Staff from Marine Corps Installations and 
Logistics and Manpower and Reserve Affairs held working group meetings 
in late 2022 and early 2023 to establish procedures for commanders to 
use to determine whether a marine's absence is voluntary or not. The 
working group is recommending updates to policies on the absentee and 
deserter collection program in the Marine Corps Corrections Manual, 
which are in final coordination. We expect a final decision in summer 
2023.
    Currently, personnel accountability is taken the morning of every 
workday and status reported to local headquarters through an electronic 
Unit Manning Status Report. If a marine is not present or accounted for 
as expected, a command will attempt to locate them via telephone, by 
visiting their dwelling, speaking to coworkers and friends, contacting 
family members listed as emergency contacts in their Record of 
Emergency Data, and potentially notifying law enforcement. If a 
commander believes the marine is `duty status unknown' as opposed to in 
an `unauthorized absence' (UA) status, they follow policy outlined in 
the Casualty Procedures Manual. If they believe a marine is UA, they 
follow procedures outlined in the User Manual for Unit Diary Reporting.
    General Berger. Staff from Marine Corps Installations and Logistics 
and Manpower and Reserve Affairs held working group meetings in late 
2022 and early 2023 to establish procedures for commanders to use to 
determine whether a marine's absence is voluntary or not. The working 
group is recommending updates to policies on the absentee and deserter 
collection program in the Marine Corps Corrections Manual, which are in 
final coordination. We expect a final decision in Summer 2023.
    Currently, personnel accountability is taken the morning of every 
workday and status reported to local headquarters through an electronic 
Unit Manning Status Report. If a marine is not present or accounted for 
as expected, a command will attempt to locate them via telephone, by 
visiting their dwelling, speaking to coworkers and friends, contacting 
family members listed as emergency contacts in their Record of 
Emergency Data, and potentially notifying law enforcement. If a 
commander believes the marine is `duty status unknown' as opposed to in 
an `unauthorized absence' (UA) status, they follow policy outlined in 
the Casualty Procedures Manual. If they believe a marine is UA, they 
follow procedures outlined in the User Manual for Unit Diary Reporting.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Gary Peters
                          ffg industrial base
    82. Senator Peters. In recent years, this Committee has advocated 
for investments in Navy shipbuilding to ensure timely acquisition and 
reduce program risk. We've seen the benefits of these investments in 
programs like Columbia and DDG-51, to name two. I'm pleased that 
Congress provided $50 million last year for the Frigate industrial base 
and workforce development and look forward to seeing the positive 
impact on the workers and manufacturers in Michigan's Upper Peninsula.
    I understand that this funding has already been allocated and needs 
remain. That's why I'm advocating for another round of additional 
funding in fiscal year 2024 to continue to address challenges typical 
of new ship classes as they ramp up production--like recruiting, 
retaining and training skilled workers, developing critical suppliers, 
and supporting needed shipyard infrastructure improvements.
    Secretary Del Toro, can you share your thoughts on how these 
investments are critical to ensuring the success of the Frigate 
program?
    Secretary Del Toro. Sustained Industrial Base investment is a 
critical enabler to ensuring the success of the Frigate program. 
Recruiting, retaining, and training skilled workers to build Frigates 
is the primary long-term challenge to the program's ability to meet the 
Navy's small surface combatant requirements. Fincantieri must execute 
an aggressive talent acquisition strategy and compete with other non-
defense industrial activities in Wisconsin and Michigan to grow and 
maintain a skilled workforce. Continued investments in workforce 
activities must include outreach to local school systems to increase 
interest in skilled trade jobs, coordination with universities and 
technical colleges to develop and bolster training pipelines and 
apprenticeship opportunities, and direct recruitment and retention 
incentives such as bonus programs and other tangible benefits. 
Workforce development efforts are also constrained by a lack of 
available housing in Marinette, Menominee, and the surrounding areas. 
Continued investment will allow the Frigate program to support regional 
investments in the communities where defense workers reside, increasing 
their attractiveness and accessibility to sustain and grow the 
workforce.
    The Frigate Industrial Base includes regional suppliers facing 
similar challenges. Beyond the benefits of supporting the workforce at 
the shipyards and their suppliers, investments in supply chain risk 
reduction, efficiency improvements, and capacity expansion are 
warranted. Fincantieri has invested substantially in shipyard 
infrastructure, and commensurate investment in the supply chain that 
provides equipment, materials, and subcontracted services will allow 
the program to realize the full potential of those investments.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin
                           force design 2030
    83. Senator Manchin. Secretary Del Toro, your testimony highlighted 
the importance of Force Design 2030. Can you detail to the Committee, 
how you as Service Secretary responsible for the Marine Corps and Navy 
are supporting Force Design 2030 and the improved integration of the 
Navy and Marine Corps? General Berger, as I said we're proud to see the 
Marine Corps making tough decisions as it relates to funding to get 
after the China problem, but what is your estimate for future funding 
increases needed to support Force Design and what are your top three 
priorities?
    Secretary Del Toro. Supporting and accelerating Force Design 2030 
is a top priority for Department of the Navy budget requests. I am 
closely working with both the Marine Corps and Navy to ensure that this 
and future budget requests support both Force Design 2030 and drive 
increased integration of naval capabilities. These efforts are central 
to my enduring priority of strengthening maritime dominance.
    General Berger. My estimate for future funding requirements needed 
to support Force Design 2030 will be provided in the fiscal year 2025 
budget and in each subsequent budget cycle as we take stock of the 
impacts of inflation and prioritize our modernization efforts across 
the Department.
    It is critical to maintain the funding levels we have been 
provided, adjusted for inflation in the future, to ensure we have 
sufficient buying power to continue to accelerate the Force Design 2030 
capabilities needed to stay ahead of the pacing threat. Over the course 
of the last several budget cycles, the Marine Corps has taken every 
possible opportunity to self-fund our modernization, reallocating $15.8 
billion in structure and legacy platforms and systems for our 
transformation efforts. However, any reduction in topline will 
challenge our ability to modernize commensurate with the pacing threat, 
while simultaneously maintaining current levels of combat ready forces. 
The resulting lost buying power will force hard choices between Global 
Force Management commitments, current readiness, and the velocity of 
our modernization efforts, the speed which has been set by our 
adversaries.
    As I've testified in the past, my main effort as Commandant is to 
build the Marine Corps that will define integrated American naval power 
in 2030, even as it must remain ready to confront the challenges of 
today. I remain fully committed to this goal. My three top priorities 
continue to focus on the three pillars of Force Design 2030--equipment 
modernization, talent management reform, and training and education 
modernization--that will enable the Marine Corps to meet global threats 
and remain the Nation's premier crisis response force. The Marine Corps 
will also prioritize Quality of Life and critical infrastructure 
investments going forward, areas where we have accepted risk in the 
past. To achieve this, sustained, adequate, predictable funding is the 
single most effective way to maintain critical strategic momentum in 
our ability to continue our Force Design 2030 transformation efforts, 
while ensuring that marine forces operating forward provide the 
foundational integrated deterrence and day-to-day campaigning necessary 
to build advantage with our allies and partners.
                         amphibious ship fleet
    84. Senator Manchin. Secretary Del Toro and General Berger, why was 
there no funding included in the Navy's budget request for amphibious 
shipbuilding? Taking the politics out and considering the future threat 
as well as unforeseen maintenance and accidents, what minimum number of 
amphibious ships do you believe we need? Same question for the 
Commandant.
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger, and I all agree 
on the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes to ensure we meet the 
Nation's need for ARG/MEUs for decades to come. The current analytical 
work is assessing the recently approved Department of Defense Planning 
Scenario for the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS), and studying the 
cost/capability of LPD 17 Flt II amphibious ships. The analytic results 
of both will be reflected in the fiscal year 2025 30-Year Shipbuilding 
Plan.
    General Berger. The Marine Corps has a requirement for no less than 
31 amphibious warfare ships 10 LHA/LHD and 21 LPDs. Since 2019, three 
DON studies have examined amphibious warfare ship force structure 
requirements. The requirement was informed by combining the findings of 
those studies, the most recent being the SecNav directed Amphibious 
Fleet Requirement Study (AFRS) in 2022, with amphibious warfare ship 
readiness trends over the past 10 years. AFRS was a threat informed, 
scenario directed, model driven, multiple phase event executed by the 
analytic arms of the Navy and the Marine Corps. The findings of AFRS 
were briefed to the service chiefs and SecNav, 31 amphibious warfare 
ships were reported as the minimum required. This finding is consistent 
with 11 amphibious warfare ship inventory studies completed over the 
last 14 years.
    The last Congress recognized this requirement in the James M. 
Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act, Public Law 117-263 (2023). 
Section 1023 requires the Navy maintain ``not less than 31 operational 
amphibious warfare ships, of which not less than 10 shall be amphibious 
assault ships.'' This law mirrors the need of the National Security 
Strategy, but it is important to note, this is a floor not a ceiling.
       talent management 2030--invest and retain enlisted marines
    85. Senator Manchin. Can you comment on the potential benefits of a 
retain and invest model? What are the biggest challenges you are facing 
toward affecting this reform?
    General Berger. Force Design 2030 envisions a ``Stand-in Force,'' 
of relatively small, highly mobile, distributed, and lethal units. To 
succeed, such units must possess both the maturity to decide and act 
during increasingly complex conflicts and a greater technical expertise 
demanded by high technology, multi-domain battlefields. As such, Talent 
Management 2030 has directed a paradigm shift from the Marine Corps' 
legacy, high turnover ``recruit and replace'' personnel model toward 
one that places greater emphasis on retention of the most capable 
marines. Some of these efforts are already well underway. This 
deliberate maturation of the force will develop the necessary structure 
to fight and win on tomorrow's battlefield. By doing so, the marine 
Corps can achieve cost savings to entry-level training, reduce the 
accession requirement in today's challenging recruiting environment, 
increase unit continuity, and benefit from more mature marines.
    As the Marine Corps strives to increase its return on investment, 
we will ensure that its warfighting capability is enhanced through 
training and education within its formations. This will create a more 
stable team to support the collective national defense. Lateral entry 
opportunities enable the service and marines to match duty to an 
individual's performance and desire to serve.
    Potential challenges include the ability to retain enough marines 
to pivot to the new paradigm, which can be addressed by implementing 
tailored incentives. Additionally, the Marine Corps must recruit 
marines who are compatible with longer duration service, which can 
potentially be achieved through implementing new applicant screening 
tools and initiatives.
    As the Marine Corps works to invest in and retain its best talent, 
it must also prioritize the quality of leadership, life, and support 
for marine families; these factors fuel the retention of talent.
                          landing ship medium
    86. Senator Manchin. At a time of increasing tensions in the world, 
especially the Pacific, how will this delay in acquiring the Landing 
Ship Medium (LSM) hinder the Marine Corps' ability to operate in costal 
environments? Will you explain the difference in Marine Corps 
capability against our pacing threat when comparing 18 LSMs that the 
Amphibious Force Requirement Study identifies as a minimum capability 
and 36 LSM's, which the Marine Corps considers their requirement?
    General Berger. Operational intra-theater surface maneuver, 
tactical mobility and sustainment is critical today in the Indo-Pacific 
to assure campaigning activities are achieved for integrated deterrence 
of malign activities. Until the Medium Landing Ship (LSM) is available 
in appreciable numbers (IOC 8FY34), the Navy and Marine Corps have 
developed a strategy known as the Littoral Maneuver Bridging Solution 
(LMBS). The LMBS utilizes a mixture of available ships and landing 
craft, as well as chartered platforms with an operational focus for use 
in Indo-Pacific region. The LMBS provides flexible options and informs 
future naval resourcing decisions to ensure the Marine Corps can 
operate throughout the littorals as required until the LSM is delivered 
to the fleet.
    The purpose built, beachable, shore-to-shore LSM requirements is 
derived from multiple studies and wargames that highlight a critical 
gap in capability and capacity between amphibious warfare ships and 
their complementary landing craft. The LSM allows shore-to-shore 
maneuver, mobility and sustainment of task organized units of action of 
stand-in forces (SIF) and enables sustained logistics forward in 
contested environments. The delay in this capability hinders our 
ability to establish key terrain and develop relationships required. 
The LSM inventory objective is 35 ships based on the concept of 
operations (CONOPS) to provide littoral maneuver for three Marine 
Littoral Regiments (MLR) as the foundational formation of the SIF. The 
near-term inventory requirement is 18 LSM to initiate the program. 
Maturation of the CONOPS and experimentation will inform the long-term 
inventory objective.
               delayed budget and continuing resolutions
    87. Senator Manchin. Secretary Del Toro, General Berger and Admiral 
Michael M. Gilday, can I have each of your commitments to get Congress 
as accurate an estimate as possible on the financial impact previous 
continuing resolutions have had on the Department of Defense?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Continuing Resolutions (CRs) 
of any duration create inefficiency in government operations. The 
execution of this year's requirements based on small incremented 
periods of availability substantiated by last year's appropriations 
means every transaction is executed in increments of the number of CRs, 
rather than deliberate transactions for the entire quarter or fiscal 
year. The administrative cost of the inefficiency is impossible to 
quantify but it spans across the Department wherever funds are 
executed, and increases with the number of CRs.

      The Department cannot execute our strategic priorities, 
such as investing in cutting-edge technologies and capabilities, with 
last year's budget.

      A full-year CR erodes the United States military 
advantage relative to China, impedes our ability to innovate and 
modernize, degrades readiness, and severely limits our ability to take 
action against energy challenges (e.g., fuel and utilities). It signals 
to our adversaries that the U.S. is not committed to its stated 
priorities.

      CRs create uncertainty, particularly in an era of 
increasing and evolving requirements to meet the demands of the DON as 
we face competitors who are not hamstrung by inefficiencies in funding 
requirements.

      The Department is challenged to execute national defense 
strategies required today when funding is limited to a prior year 
level, and more important, while there are restrictions to move ahead 
with the investments in new programs and technologies that are required 
today. The longer a CR lasts, the greater uncertainty, and decision 
time that is lost; longer CRs require the Department to respond to and 
execute the congressional decisions made on the President's Budget 
Request in an appropriations act in a truncated period of time. This is 
particularly challenging for military personnel and readiness accounts 
that are in 1 year appropriations.

      Given the commonplace nature of CRs today (in 13 of the 
last 14 years), the DON has worked around the inefficiencies as much as 
possible. However, delays in initiating new starts in procurement and 
research and development, and increased production rates place our Navy 
and Marine Corps at a strategic disadvantage with our competitors. In 
the last 3 years, each year there are have been over 60 programs that 
are precluded from execution during a CR because of restrictions on new 
starts and production rate increases. The DON appreciates the anomalies 
Congress has provided in the past for the Columbia program, but there 
are other programs that stall pending appropriations acts.

      While CRs are inefficient and delay getting on with 
today's business, receiving an appropriation act at some point is 
essential. A yearlong CR would have devastating consequences not only 
for funding levels, but the misalignment of priorities and budget 
requests in the current year compared to last year. . Further, the 
comparison of fiscal year 2024 program requirements compared with 
fiscal year 2023, without the ability to realign funding, would create 
a $26.1B misalignment of funds. We cannot afford this type of 
perturbation in funding the investments we need today and for the 
future.

      Increased inflation experienced during fiscal year 2023 
and projected for fiscal year 2024 will reduce the Department's buying 
power, further stressing the Department's topline.

      This year we have identified 49 new starts slated for 
fiscal year 2024. When looking at the last 4 years (fiscal year 2020 to 
fiscal year 2023), all which have started under CRs of 80 days or more, 
the sum of delayed programs for the Department of the Navy alone is 81. 
This sets programs off poorly, creates doubt with committee staff, 
erodes trust in our industrial base, and cedes ground to our adversary.
    General Berger. Over the past several years that I have been 
Commandant, every fiscal year has begun with a continuing resolution or 
CR, due to the absence of enacted appropriations. Given that Congress 
has eventually passed the appropriations acts, the strictly financial 
impact is neutral. However, I'd offer three ways that these continuing 
resolutions, particularly a yearlong CR, adversely impact your Marine 
Corps.
    First is people. In an all-volunteer force, an extended CR has the 
potential to eat away at the trust that marines and their families have 
in their government. Without enacted appropriations, I may have to 
delay or cancel transfer orders; reduce incentive pays and bonuses; 
families won't know whether to renew their housing leases; and spouses 
won't know whether to accept the job offer they got last week all due 
to uncertainty. The impacts on recruiting and retention may very well 
be lasting at the time we are facing the most challenging recruiting 
environment since the advent of the all-volunteer force.
    Second is our ongoing transformation efforts. CRs look in one 
direction--backward--forcing us to execute last year's budget against 
this year's priorities. At a time when we are working to accelerate 
transformation efforts, CRs slow us down. They artificially slow 
acquisition programs delaying the start of new contracts. They 
effectively prevent modernization at speed, ceding the initiative to 
our adversaries. This includes slowing R&D and procurement of critical 
Force Design 2030 programs, affecting workers across the country, as 
well as preventing facilities supporting new platform investment, 
training, and quality of life initiatives. Service chiefs need 
sufficient, stable, predictable funding to stay in front of our pacing 
threat. CRs often require services to temporarily reprioritize their 
requirements to ensure sufficient resources remain available for must 
pay obligations.
    Third is our strategic partners. Under every CR, we face the 
prospect of losing the trust and confidence of our allies and partners 
because commanders may have to scale back or cancel scheduled 
exercises. For a National Security Strategy that depends on allies and 
partners, trust is a big part of what keeps the door open. Once that 
door closes, it's hard to recover from the damage done to the military 
relationships.
    The concern with budgetary stagnation is compounded by the fact 
that our strategic competitor, China, is accelerating. The three 
impacts illustrated above translate to an increased risk to our ability 
to deter and compete with China, particularly in the Pacific. Our 
people, our transformation efforts, and our relationship with our 
strategic partners are key to staying ahead of the pacing threat.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                   resilience of sailors and marines
    88. Senator Rosen. Secretary Del Toro and General Berger, sailors 
and marines have been subjected to extended deployments and heightened 
operational tempos over the last few years, which has impacted our 
people as well as the ships, aircraft, and equipment that they operate 
and maintain. Taking care of our servicemembers must also be a top 
priority, especially considering the particularly arduous pandemic-era 
operations coupled with ongoing supply chain issues and a downturn in 
recruitment.
    How are the Navy and the Marine Corps focusing on the well-being of 
sailors and marines throughout the deployment cycle, in addition to 
maintaining their operational readiness and ability to deploy?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy is overhauling the totality of its 
prevention programs through its Advance Navy Culture initiative. This 
places a focus on the outcomes of the Navy programs which are currently 
in place that aim to build teams with high connectedness, cohesion and 
inclusion to better monitor the well-being of our sailors throughout 
the deployment cycle. In addition, Navy is overhauling its internally 
developed Warrior Toughness and congressionally mandated Expanded 
Operational Stress Control program into one continuum focusing on 
building sailor minds, bodies, and spirits. The Navy is also increasing 
the number of mental health providers and chaplains on the waterfront.
    In March, the Navy published its Mental Health Playbook which helps 
to normalize the conversations about mental health and provides a 
roadmap to navigate care options for sailors.
    For Newport News Shipyard in particular, we have increased the 
mental health professionals assigned to Refueling and Complex Overhaul 
(RCOH) aircraft carriers and leased office space to put the crew's 
medical department in closer proximity to the ship. This increases 
accessibility and reduces commute times. Additionally, we have taken 
numerous actions to improve the quality of life of sailors. These 
include improving access to food options consistent with 24/7 work 
hours by bringing in food trucks in the evenings, reopening the self-
use kitchen in unaccompanied housing, and opening a Navy Exchange mini-
mart within the confines of the industrial area of the shipyard. We are 
also providing increased Wi-Fi access for sailor personal use. We have 
taken steps to improve the parking concerns. We centralized parking, 
allowing closure of some of the most remote parking areas.
    General Berger. Preserving the psychological health of 
servicemembers and their families is as much a warfighting matter as it 
is a sacred duty, and it is of paramount importance to mission 
readiness. The Marine Corps' Combat and Operational Stress Control 
(COSC) Deployment Cycle Training principles enable a cohesive ready 
force and promote long-term health and well-being among marines and 
attached personnel. The COSC program has three main goals--prevention, 
identification, and treatment of combat and operational stress (COS), 
stress arising from military training and operations, and typical life 
stressors experienced by servicemembers. COSC assists commanders in 
maintaining warfighting capabilities by prevention, identification, and 
management of COS. Training is focused on both warrior and leader 
audiences at three stages: pre-deployment (30 days prior to 
deployment), re-deployment (15-30 days prior to return), and post-
deployment (60-90 days after deployment).
    COSC is executed by Marine Corps' Operational Stress Control and 
Readiness (OSCAR) teams. They consist of command-selected marines who 
assist commanders in prevention and identification of COS, early 
intervention to mitigate stress, and reintegration efforts in all 
units, whether operational, deployed, in training, or in garrison. 
OSCAR team members act as sensors for the commander by noticing small 
changes in behavior and acting early. OSCAR marines become certified as 
the commander's representatives on COSC efforts in the unit. They 
support the commander in building unit strength, resilience, and 
readiness and keeping marines in the fight.

    89. Senator Rosen. Admiral Gilday, just this past week, U.S. Naval 
Forces Central Command (NAVCENT) held a mental health stand-down as a 
part of the Navy's mental health pilot program in Bahrain. We want to 
make sure that each of our sailors and their families have mental 
health resources available to them and communities that support them. 
Are there plans for this mental health pilot program to be expanded to 
other Navy installations, both overseas and right here at home?
    Admiral Gilday. The health and well-being of sailors and their 
families is a vital responsibility and a top priority for the Navy. We 
are focused on improving programs and investing additional resources to 
ensure that sailors and their families have access to the best possible 
mental health and community support resources. These investments are 
being made both at the command level and Navy-wide (e.g. deploying 
mental health trained chaplains on smaller ships for the first time and 
increasing the number of mental health care practitioners across the 
Navy). The work that NAVCENT is doing is a great example of a command-
level initiative to optimally tailor resources to meet the needs of 
sailors and families in an overseas environment. The Navy will employ 
the best practices from this and other similar initiatives as we strive 
to better care for our people.
        impact of military health system genesis on recruitment
    90. Senator Rosen. The transition to Military Health System (MHS) 
Genesis and digitized medical records is necessary to ensure that 
servicemembers, veterans, and their families are receiving proper 
health care with continuity between providers. Not only is this system 
used for the men and women already serving in the military, but it is 
also used to screen the medical history of potential recruits prior to 
accession.
    Secretary Del Toro, given the Navy and Marine Corps' recruitment 
challenges and a decrease of people eligible for military service, how 
has the transition from the previous medical intake process to MHS 
Genesis impacted recruitment efforts?
    Secretary Del Toro. The capabilities and expectations from MHS 
Genesis were welcomed. It was thought that MHS Genesis would provide a 
more efficient and comprehensive medical history of an applicant during 
the enlistment process, allowing the Navy and Marine Corps to avoid the 
costs associated with undisclosed pre-existing medical conditions on 
overall service readiness. After 1 year, the transition has not yet 
generated the expected efficiencies. During the same period, it has 
exposed issues within the processing of applicants at Military Entrance 
Processing Stations (MEPS). Collectively, those results have impacted 
recruiting.
    One of the expected efficiencies from MHS Genesis was that an 
applicant's medical history would be made readily available through 
data gathered through the Health Information Exchange (HIE) networks. 
The Department of Health and Human Services mandated that HIE 
information be provided into MHS Genesis. However, it was quickly 
discovered that not all medical provider networks authorized or 
participated in the release of medical information. For example, one 
part of the country may only provide an applicant's prescription 
information history, while another network may only provide 
prescriptions with doctor's notes. This patchwork of inconsistent HIE 
medical information resulted in MEPS medical personnel requesting the 
applicant or recruiter obtain this information, which lengthened the 
overall enlistment process and defeated one of the intended purposes of 
MHS Genesis. Until the HIE networks provide a more uniform and 
comprehensive medical history flow into MHS Genesis, the system will 
not meet anticipated efficiency.
    By its nature, MHS Genesis is designed to increase the volume of 
medical information provided for each applicant in order to uncover 
pre-existing medical conditions. Although the volume of information 
increased as a result of HIE data, there was no corresponding increase 
in MEPS personnel to screen and evaluate the documentation. This 
resulted in a greater burden being placed on a workforce designed to 
review and decipher medical information under the previous intake 
methodology. Limitations on civilian labor hours, staffing shortages 
due to less than competitive wages compared to the surrounding medical 
community, and inability to acquire the services of fee-based medical 
providers has compounded MEPS' ability to deliver optimum and timely 
processing for the recruiting services.
                            cyber workforce
    91. Senator Rosen. The establishment of a cyber-capable workforce 
in the Navy is critical, recognizing that cyberspace is a warfighting 
domain that continues to adapt in terms of threat and sophistication. 
The fiscal year 2023 NDAA required the establishment of a dedicated 
Navy Cyber Warfare Operations career field, which ensures that the Navy 
has a capable cyber workforce that can integrate within the greater DOD 
cyber-warfare community.
    We must continue to invest in innovative, traditional and non-
traditional cyber capabilities and talent to support the Department of 
Defense's cyber mission requirements.
    Admiral Gilday, how do you envision that the creation of Cyber 
Warfare specialists will impact the retention of high-skilled cyber-
capable sailors? Can you speak to the progress of the establishment of 
a training pipeline and implementation plan?
    Admiral Gilday. Creating a dedicated cyber warfare officer 
designator, an enlisted rating, and applying appropriate retention 
bonuses will help to increase retention rates. Cyber personnel will 
have dedicated career paths allowing them to stay in cyber roles for 
most--if not all--of their service. Before the creation of a dedicated 
designator and rating, it was necessary for personnel to take non-cyber 
tours within their communities to be considered competitive for 
promotion and retention; however, cyber skills can quickly atrophy. 
Now, those personnel will be competitive for promotion without having 
to periodically leave the cyber community. This workplace stability is 
a noted non-monetary benefit many of our sailors, regardless of 
designator or rating, have expressed interest in. Between these 
monetary and non-monetary incentives, the Navy is confident that we 
will see increased retention rates.
    For officer training, the Navy will pilot a new approach to create 
Maritime Cyber Warfare Officers with on-keyboard skills this summer in 
Pensacola, Florida. Navy plans to utilize current enlisted cyber rating 
schools that are in high demand for Cyber Mission Force team work 
roles. The intent is for new Maritime Cyber Warfare Officers to undergo 
the same training as their enlisted Cyber Warfare Technician 
counterparts. For more senior officers, the Navy will initially seek to 
use other services' schools that have proven successful in delivering 
the required skills to meet work role assignments. For enlisted 
training, the ongoing coordination with USCYBERCOM to accomplish all 
foundational training prior to assignment to Cyber Mission Forces will 
be the basis of the new cyber warfare rating initial training.
    The Navy established the Maritime Cyber Warfare Officer designator 
and the Cyber Warfare Technician rating on 26 June and 28 June 2023, 
respectively.

    92. Senator Rosen. Admiral Gilday, as a former director of 
operations for U.S. Cyber Command, can you discuss the value of reserve 
models, including potentially establishing a civilian cybersecurity 
reserve, to support the Department of Defense's cyberspace operations?
    Admiral Gilday. The Naval Reserve Force is vital to our national 
security. History has demonstrated the importance of maintaining a 
warfighting ready strategic reserve of trained military personnel, 
which reflects the essence of the Navy's mission and vision. Deploying 
and training side-by-side with Active Duty counterparts, Navy Reserve 
sailors provide a unique combination of military experience and 
civilian expertise that gives the Navy a competitive advantage over our 
adversary. Cybersecurity is one of the areas in which it is impossible 
to have too much capability or too much expertise. Extending the 
reserve force out to establish a civilian cybersecurity reserve corps 
builds to our existing reserve programs and could prove beneficial. A 
cost-benefit analysis determining further considerations (i.e., pay, 
benefits, risk, limitations, etc.) would need to be executed across the 
DOD to evaluate the advantage of tapping into the vast pool of 
cybersecurity talent.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                               recruiting
    93. Senator Kelly. Secretary Del Toro, I understand the Navy hit 
its Active Duty enlisted recruitment goals last year, but failed to 
meet target numbers for Reserve enlisted personnel, and for both Active 
Duty and Reserve officers. How has the Navy changed its strategy to 
meet Officer and Reserve recruitment goals?
    Secretary Del Toro. Commander, Navy Recruiting Command (CNRC) 
established a Navy Recruiting Reserve Command (NRRC) on 1 April 2022, a 
major command focused on Prior Service and Direct Commission Officer 
Reserve missions. Prior to NRRC, Prior Service recruiting was part of 
total force recruiting commands focused on both Active and Reserve 
missions. NRRC's model is Reserve Recruiters in Reserve Markets, 
working Reserve Only Missions and led by Reserve Leaders. In support of 
this model, there is newly developed Reserve-centric Prior Service 
Training and a new Reserve-centric Prior Service Marketing and 
Advertising called Navy+, which targets Civilians, Veterans and Active 
Duty separating from Service.
    Since the execution of NRRC, 460 Enlisted and Officer recruiting 
professionals have been transferred from Navy Recruiting Command and 26 
Navy Talent Acquisition Groups (NTAGs) to NRRC. Reserve recruiting 
billets (675) were transferred to NRRC commensurate with the reserve 
missions that were transferred to the new command. NRRC's manning is 
strategically built with Officer and Enlisted Canvasser Recruiters from 
a variety of general and specialty rates and designators. Canvasser 
Recruiters are Reservists on Active Duty recruiting tours for up to 3 
years. In essence, NRRC recruiters are reservists selling reserve 
careers. The Prior Service recruiters are strategically placed in 
densely populated veteran markets in each State to include Hawaii and 
Alaska, as well as Guam, Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin 
Islands.
    As of April 2023, NRRC has produced an additional 270 Enlisted and 
additional 50 Officer contracts over the past year. Navy Recruiting is 
expanding reach to the Prior Service and Active Duty market to ensure 
separating individuals have the information they need to consider 
extending service by way of the Navy Reserve. NRRC currently attends 
all Transition Assistance Programs (TAP) in the local areas and they 
have designated Benefit Advisors that partner with Active Duty Command 
Career Counselors to educate separating sailors on Navy Reserve 
benefits.
    Navy Recruiting Command (NRC) has adjusted to a very aggressive 
shipping posture. Upon receipt of selection results from the Officer 
Community Managers (OCMs), selectees are immediately booked for the 
next available Officer Candidate School (OCS) class, often within 2 
weeks of board results. It has been communicated to the NTAGs to 
prepare applicants to ship selects as soon as possible. A selection 
memo has been introduced to reinforce candidate contact and reduce 
close-in attrition or ``rolls'' by mandating recruiters contact 
selectees directly following selection results to verify their 
acceptance to the community and verify their shipping date. 
Additionally, NRC has strategically overbooked designators with high 
pre-shipping attrition in hopes to attain shipping goals before the 
last OCS class of the fiscal year.
    NRC is actively working with OCMs to reevaluate Program 
Authorizations to allow more applicants to be sent to selection boards. 
NRC provides a number of selections needed at each board to OCMs in 
order to maintain mission glideslope. OCMs are encouraged to select 
over their quota to allow for any potential attrition and build a 
Delayed Entry Program for fiscal year 2024.
    NRC is expanding the Mobile Medical Recruiting Academy training 
topics to include Nuclear Propulsion Officer Candidate programs and 
renaming it Mobile Officer Recruiting Academy. This change should 
increase penetration to quality colleges and universities for all non-
medical attainments if applied by field recruiters.

    94. Senator Kelly. Secretary Del Toro, what can the Navy do to 
expose our youth to the opportunities the military can provide? This is 
critical to ensure we have the quality and quantity of sailors and 
marines needed to support our national defense in the future
    Secretary Del Toro. As propensity for military service has reached 
record lows, the Navy and Marine Corps are heavily focused on expanding 
and enhancing opportunities to tell our story and communicate the 
opportunities and benefits of military service to young Americans.
    Expanding community and school outreach. High schools remain the 
most sustainable market for our recruiters, who are working hard to 
reestablish relationships with educators and students lost as a result 
of COVID closures and restrictions. We are also working closely with 
State and Federal education officials to promote the value of military 
service and military-connected recognition programs.
    Currently, recruiter access requirements set a low threshold for 
compliance in schools that fulfill just their minimal obligations. We 
encourage Congress to modernize these requirements in a way that 
supports the ability of our recruiters to establish meaningful 
connections with both students and educators.
    Enhancing marketing to youth and influencers. Today's fragmented 
media environment means television ads do not have the same impact on 
young people as in the past. Instead, we must employ creative and more 
personal approaches that directly appeal to our audience, highlight the 
diversity of our career opportunities, and convey the military's 
tangible and intangible benefits to youth and those who influence them, 
such as educators, family members, and community leaders.
    Our advertising programs are vital to building awareness among 
high-quality, diverse populations that are increasingly disconnected 
from military service. A strong advertising program that reaches young 
people in formats they heavily utilize enables our recruiting commands 
to modernize, attract, and recruit the highest quality accession 
cohorts.
    Attracting a diverse and skilled talent pool. The Navy and Marine 
Corps strive to recruit every zip code in the country and have 
implemented community outreach within under-represented communities to 
attract a wider range of potential recruits. The Department of the Navy 
continues to assess where our Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps 
units are established and how we are leveraging cross-town affiliations 
at Minority-Serving Institutions in communities with large minority 
populations. Recruiters also seek diverse and innovative STEM talent by 
visiting magnet schools, specialized high schools, and career and 
technical education programs. By continuing to highlight our commitment 
to diversity and inclusion, we promote the Department of the Navy as an 
attractive and welcoming option for young people of all backgrounds.

    95. Senator Kelly. General Berger, I understand that most of the 
services have recruiting challenges, but the Marine Corps has been 
doing well with retention. What does the data suggest is the reason for 
this success?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps has achieved exceptional retention 
rates, surpassing our goals. This achievement is a testament to the 
fact that once your marines become marines, they want to stay marines. 
The marines who we are retaining are extremely high quality; this year, 
over 70 percent come from the top 40 percent of our force. We are 
decisively retaining and increasing the number of marines who have 
innate ability, skills, and commitment to continued service, in line 
with our Talent Management 2030 strategy. Introducing initiatives, such 
as increased lateral move opportunities, allows marines to continue 
service while further aligning individual desires to service 
requirements. Our culture of warfighting excellence coupled with Talent 
Management initiatives that seek to enhance the marine and family 
experience significantly contribute to our retention success. Overall, 
the Marine Corps' retention achievements are a testament to its ability 
to attract and retain high-caliber personnel who are committed to 
serving their country with excellence. Also, we only select the best of 
our marines to serve on recruiting duty. As an example, a great 
majority of our General Officers have commanded recruiting stations.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                          littoral combat ship
    96. Senator Cotton. Secretary Del Toro, Congress asked you to look 
at alternative uses for the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS). You currently 
have a requirements study out for an unmanned mothership. Has there 
been any consideration of the LCS as a mothership for unmanned systems?
    Secretary Del Toro. Yes, LCS (Freedom Class) is among the various 
ships we have included in our SECNAV Unmanned Mothership Study. 
Additionally, it will also be evaluated as a potential solution, if/
when required, as part of the Unmanned Systems (UxS) Expeditionary 
Support and Integration Requirements Evaluation Team (RET) commencing 
this summer.

    97. Senator Cotton. Secretary Del Toro, what is the feasibility of 
experimentation with the LCS to inform those requirements as opposed to 
simply paper studies?
    Secretary Del Toro. Fourth fleet has commenced with their initial 
concept exploration. Additionally, the Navy is about to award a 
contract to put Unmanned Aerial System Intelligence Surveillance 
Reconnaissance, Commercially Owned / Commercially Operated Services on 
three LCS from Multiple Fleets. This is an expansion of the work that 
was done last year to put the same capability on DDG FLTI/II (x2) in 
7th Fleet. This is meant to be complementary to the MQ-8 (if available) 
and not replace.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
                         additive manufacturing
    98. Senator Rounds. Admiral Gilday, do you believe additive 
manufacturing provides a major opportunity for reducing maintenance 
lead times both on board ships and at the shipyards?
    Admiral Gilday. Additive manufacturing provides a strong 
opportunity to reduce maintenance lead times. It is currently being 
used at the shipyards with conventional manufacturing and sustainment, 
particularly with tooling and fixtures. Additive manufacturing on board 
ship has focused primarily on low criticality parts due to the current 
maturity of the materials and processes. Additively manufactured high 
criticalaity end-use items require qualification and certification for 
specific applications. The Department of the Navy is continuing to 
mature its processes and invest in research and development to take 
advantage of additive manufacturing opportunities.
    The Navy is embracing new technologies in order to deliver and 
maintain quality ships and submarines on time to meet the threat posed 
by our Nation's adversaries. The Navy sees significant opportunity for 
advanced manufacturing technology, particularly additive manufacturing, 
to deliver benefits across the shipbuilding industrial base and supply 
chain as a means to:

      Increase manufacturing resilience.

      Reduce reliance on sole-source supply points and address 
constraints in challenged markets.

      Reduce manufacturing lead-times and fabrication spans.

      Address obsolescence concerns for ship maintenance, 
modernization, repair, and sustainment.

      Reduce the manpower needed for critical manufacturing 
while attracting, upskilling, and retaining the skilled workforce 
needed across the supply chain.

    99. Senator Rounds. General Berger, would forward deploying 
printers, capable of producing additively manufactured components, with 
logistics units help improve the ability of the marines to sustain 
themselves in a denied environment?
    General Berger. Yes. A forward deployed manufacturing capability 
(additive, subtractive, and hybrid versions of the two) are critical in 
sustaining Marine Corps and joint forces in a denied environment. In 
addition to fielding the hardware that produces these parts 
(Expeditionary Fabrication (XFAB) at the intermediate level, and 
Tactical Fabrication (TACFAB) at the organizational level), the Marine 
Corps is working to field the authoritative digital data thread 
required for those machines to produce required parts. We have fielded 
a deployable additive manufacturing capability to all three Active Duty 
Maintenance Battalions and additional logistics units are scheduled to 
receive this capability across the FYDP. We are on track to begin 
fielding polymer additive manufacturing capabilities to every battalion 
within the Marine Corps this calendar year (CY23). We are on course to 
update our dedicated maintenance unit's capabilities to be able to 
print metal parts in fiscal year 2026. Additionally, we intend to 
undergo a modernization effort for our deployable machine shop that 
will replace our legacy deployable subtractive manufacturing capability 
and provide our logistics units with a better sustainment capability.

    100. Senator Rounds. Secretary Del Toro, what will you do to enable 
the Navy and Marine Corps to rapidly qualify additively manufactured 
components?
    Secretary Del Toro. The ability to rapidly qualify additive 
manufacturing (AM) processes and certify parts within the Department of 
the Navy (DON) is continuing to mature. The diverse nature of Navy and 
Marine Corps operational environments requires different qualification/
certification approaches across various weapons systems. For example, 
approval of low-critical parts for ships, submarines, and ground units 
are delegated down to the waterfront and unit level while higher 
criticality parts (i.e., air-worthy and nuclear SUBSAFE/Level 1 parts) 
require higher levels of approval.
    The AM industry at large is limited by a lack of AM standards, 
material data, and qualification/certification approaches. The DON is 
coordinating with other government, academic and industry partners in 
the development of these standards and approaches to enable more rapid 
AM qualification and certification. Current processes only enable 
approval of individual parts for particular platforms produced by 
specific machines. The DON is improving this process in the near term 
by identifying ways of scaling process qualification to multiple AM 
vendors as well as implementing approaches for ``families of parts'' in 
which parts with similar design features, performance requirements, and 
consequence of failure are certified together. In the longer term, 
qualification will be accomplished by analyzing the vast amounts of 
data captured through AM processes comparing the ``as designed'' part 
to the ``as built'' part. While these efforts are in their beginning 
stages, DON will continue to fund the efforts that contribute to the 
maturation of the AM qualification and certification process.
                           naval maintenance
    101. Senator Rounds. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, the USS 
Boise still sits in dry dock at Newport News Shipyard. Due to 
compounding problems with the Navy's ship maintenance schedules and 
workflow, it has been over 8 years since this submarine completed its 
last mission. It has now spent 6 years in port due to maintenance 
issues. I view this case and the ship maintenance backlog as an 
extremely grave matter. What is the plan to get USS Boise and other 
ships out of dry dock and back into the fight?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. Boise is currently in an 
Early Production Period (EPP), an availability that authorizes a 
portion of the Engineered Overhaul (EOH) Availability Work Package, at 
HII-NNS Shipyard in Newport News, VA. As Boise awaits commencement of 
the full EOH, the currently authorized and ongoing EPP is being 
executed by HII-NNS with the intent of reducing the risk associated 
with executing the entire EOH. The EPP commenced in September 2020.
    An EOH is a CNO-scheduled depot level maintenance availability that 
is required within the submarine life cycle to perform repairs, upgrade 
capabilities, and reset the operating interval and certification. 
Commencement of the Boise EOH has been delayed due to resource 
shortages at HII-NNS, due primarily to the Navy's assignment of two 
higher priority submarine repair availabilities, the Helena (SSN 725) 
Drydocking Selected Restricted Availability (DSRA) and the Columbus 
(SSN 762) EOH, at the same time Boise entered the shipyard. The Helena 
DSRA is complete and the ongoing Columbus EOH has been progressing 
steadily following a slower than expected start.
    The Navy is working with HII-NNS to award a Boise EOH contract that 
will incentivize performance and share risk. Once this contract is 
awarded, the Boise EOH will begin and then availability duration, 
undocking, and completion dates will be determined.
    In July 2022, the Navy approved a 15-Year Attack Submarines (SSN) 
Maintenance Strategy, a holistic approach to SSN Maintenance that 
includes leveraging public and private sector capability and capacity 
to increase submarine operational availability and sustain material 
readiness.
    The 15-Year SSN Maintenance Strategy provides long term guidance 
and planning of Public Shipyard and Private Shipyard Repair 
availabilities. The goal of this effort is to level load depot 
maintenance facilities, smoothing out peaks and troughs in combined 
workloads and enabling the facilities to execute maintenance with 
predictability.
    Execution of the 15-year SSN Maintenance Strategy requires 
investment across public and private sector, to include:

      Fully funding public shipyards

      Establishing stable requirements and funding for private 
shipyard availabilities

      Addressing funding shortfalls for Virginia Class (VCS) 
material, obsolescence, rotatable pools, etc.

      Engaging industry on discrete jobs to outsource

      Executing funding options/processes to support material 
availability

    The President's Budget 2024 adds for VCS material parts, 
obsolescence, acquisition, and private yard availability planning to 
improve SSN maintenance execution at public and private shipyards. 
Additionally, this fully funds Submarine Maintenance (1B4B) which will 
enable greater confidence in schedule execution and material 
availability for planned submarine overhauls.
    Key President's Budget 2024 investments in SSN maintenance are:

      Invests in the long lead-time (LLTM) materials that are 
causing significant delays in VCS availabilities.

      Addresses obsolete systems or components and invests in 
outsourced work to enable shipyard worker focus on critical path work.)

      Restores Navy Working Capital Fund investment in VCS 
material made in fiscal year 2023.--$350 million (fiscal year 20DP)

      Funds planning of a private shipyard VCS availability in 
heel-to-toe fashion following Boise EOH, continuing Navy's partnership 
with private industry.

      Fully funds Submarine Maintenance (1B4B) which will 
improve confidence in schedule execution and material availability for 
planned submarine overhauls.

    Additionally, President's Budget 2024 budget request adds $600 
million in OPN to fund remaining shortfall for Boise EOH.
    The Navy is committed to these investments, and executing the 15-
Year SSN Maintenance Strategy to improve our national defense posture.

    102. Senator Rounds. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, in 
recognition of the poor State of our public shipyards, Navy leadership 
developed the Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program (SIOP) in 
2018. Can you tell me what the State of this program is, whether the 
Navy is getting the resources it needs to recapitalize our public 
shipyards on an appropriate timeline to provide a credible naval 
deterrent to China, and whether resourcing this requirement to a higher 
level is something that this Committee needs to seriously consider?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The Navy's primary 
initiative to modernize and optimize the four public shipyards is the 
Shipyard Infrastructure Optimization Program (SIOP). Shipyards with 
resilient facilities, efficient layouts, modernized equipment, and 
digital interconnections generate Fleet readiness and strengthen our 
Nation's security. The Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget submission 
confirms the Administration's commitment to SIOP with $9.9 billion of 
funding across the fiscal years 2024 to 2028 Future Years Defense 
Program.
    With the support received from Congress--to include the $1.9 
billion appropriated in fiscal year 2023--SIOP is advancing three lines 
of effort (LOE): (1) deliver required dry dock repairs and upgrades to 
support current and planned classes of nuclear-powered aircraft 
carriers and submarines, (2) optimize workflow within the shipyards 
through significant changes to their physical layout, and (3) 
recapitalize obsolete industrial plant equipment with modern 
technology, substantially increasing productivity and safety.
    SIOP has achieved a number of accomplishments toward each LOE: 
Completion of the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) Super Flood Basin 
and the modernized Norfolk Naval Shipyard Dry Dock 4; awarding 
construction of the Norfolk Naval Shipyard Dry Dock 8 Saltwater 
Upgrades and Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard (PHNS) Dry Dock 5; commencing 
design of a Gerald R. Ford-class aircraft carrier capable dry dock at 
Puget Sound Naval Shipyard; awarding multiple Facilities Sustainment, 
Restoration, and Modernization projects across all four shipyards; and 
continuing capital equipment investments to include delivery of a 175-
ton portal crane to PNSY.
    The foundation of SIOP's optimization effort are the industrial 
modeling and simulation, engineering studies, and area development 
plans (ADPs) underway for each shipyard. SIOP completed the first 
increment of industrial modeling in 2022, which provided facility-level 
data describing optimized workflow among buildings and validated 
reductions in availability durations possible by optimizing facility 
layouts and infrastructure. The second increment of industrial modeling 
started in 2022 and focuses on processes within facilities to optimize 
shop floor layout and equipment to further increase efficiencies. The 
modeling and simulation of the ideal shipyard layout, combined with the 
engineering studies that describe local constraints allow the 
development of shipyard specific ADP that provide the Navy a range of 
options and sequencing for facilities recapitalization. The PHNS ADP 
was delivered by the contractor in July 2022, and the Navy expects to 
make a recapitalization decision this year. The ADPs for the other 
shipyards will complete in 2024 and 2025.
    The Navy budget balances requirements across all domains, and the 
scale of SIOP requires that it remain a Navy priority for many years. 
Consistent, predictable funding for the program is necessary to move 
swiftly through planning, design, and construction, while synchronizing 
the recapitalization with shipyard operations and fleet requirements. 
Acceleration opportunities exist if project designs can be further 
advanced to take advantage of operational windows for construction.
    Navy readiness demands that all SIOP investments are coordinated 
with fleet operational commitments to ensure alignment of requirements, 
construction, and ship maintenance, while remaining mindful of the 
impact SIOP will have on our shipyard workers and our need for 
sustainable infrastructure. This includes ensuring the program is 
integrated with the Naval Sea Systems Command Performance to Plan, the 
Naval Sustainment System--Shipyards efforts, local communities and 
regulators, and the Administration's climate initiatives.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                          weapons procurement
    103. Senator Ernst. Secretary Del Toro, since the Navy proposes 
growing the weapons procurement account by more than 40 percent in 
fiscal year 2024, what production lines for missiles have been maxed 
out?
    Secretary Del Toro. Senator, the following weapons procurement 
production lines are maxed out:
      AIM-120 AMRAAM through fiscal year 2026. This is an Air 
Force led effort, to include the DON procurements.
      AGM-158C LRASM is near max capacity as annual quantities 
procured fluctuate year-to-year across the FYDP. LRASM is a Navy led 
program with Air Force as the contracting lead for procurement with 
both Navy and Air Force procurements.
      RIM-174 SM-6 is maxed out across the FYDP.
      RGM/UGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk is at maximum capacity and 
coordinating investments to increase capacity. The Tomahawk production 
line, and sub-vendors, are shared across new production and 
recertification and multiple service customers, including Navy, Marine 
Corps, Army and Foreign Military Sales.

    104. Senator Ernst. Secretary Del Toro, what production lines have 
excess capacity?
    Secretary Del Toro.
      Naval Strike Missile has some additional capacity that 
the Navy could leverage as part of the planned fiscal year 2024 to 2028 
Multi-Year Procurement. With additional funds, the Navy can procure up 
to 104 missiles across the FYDP on the planned fiscal year 2024 MYP for 
NSM.
      ESSM has additional capacity that can be leveraged. Due 
to investments made to increase production capacity, ordering capacity 
will increase from 300 up to 540 ESSM Block 2 missiles starting in 
fiscal year 2024.
      LRASM will achieve additional capacity in fiscal year 
2025 following planned investments in fiscal year 2024.
      AGM-88G AARGM-ER currently has excess production capacity 
for up to 91 missiles. Fiscal year 2024 production capacity will be 
updated once the fiscal year 2023 contract is awarded.
      AIM-9X will have additional capacity that can be 
leveraged in fiscal year 2025. They are currently at 1,400/year with a 
stretch goal to reach 1,650 in fiscal year 2024. Multiple efforts are 
ongoing to increase production capacity up to 2,000/year with an 
eventual end State of 2,500/year.

    105. Senator Ernst. Secretary Del Toro, can you describe how you 
have been using multi-year authorities for select munitions?
    Secretary Del Toro.
      The DON is moving in lock-step with the Air Force and OSD 
to support the Department's Critical Munitions Strategy (CMS).
      The DON continues to view MYPs as a valuable tool as we 
respond to an increasing demand for munitions.
    To that end, the DON has planned MYPs upcoming for Naval Strike 
Missile and SM-6, and are partnering with other Services to use 
upcoming MYPs for AMRAAM and LRASM.

    106. Senator Ernst. What more can Congress do to support the Navy 
and the industrial base surge capacity?
    Secretary Del Toro.
      Support the President's Budget and approve MYP and 
additional Advanced Procurement & Industrial Base requests.
      Continue to support and partner with the Department as we 
execute and consider expanding authorities to streamline processes to 
accelerate and efficiently acquire munitions.
        Continue and expand support for Multiyear Procurement 
(MYP) and OSD's Large Lot Procurement (LLP) effort.
        MYP contracts incentivize the OEM to build in LEAN and 
Six Sigma efficiencies more feasibly than with a 1-year contract; 
opportunity to deploy and yield efficiencies increases as the period of 
performance increases.
        MYP guarantees Tier II, III and IV subcontractors work 
across the entire scope of the contract period, instead of only a 
single year of guaranteed work. For the ``small companies'' a multiyear 
contract solidifies their production capacity.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                      force design 2030 divestment
    107. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, you have been taking bold, 
innovative action on Force Design 2030 as part of your follow through 
on the National Defense Strategy. You should be commended for this. 
Nevertheless, given how dramatic and far reaching your actions have 
been with Force Design 2030, and given some of the criticisms this 
initiative has received, I am presenting a number of questions that are 
important to answer in the fullest possible detail.
    General Berger, in your statement for the Committee, you asserted 
that today the Marine Corps fields ``the most proficient combined arms 
teams on the globe.'' Militaries around the world have long understood 
combined arms to mean employing a combination of infantry, tanks, 
cannon artillery, engineers, and close support aircraft in a 
coordinated manner. Those same militaries today are endeavoring to add 
these systems to their inventories, and daily we see their utility on 
the battlefields in Ukraine. Yet, the Marine Corps has divested or are 
on the way to divesting all the Marine Corps' tanks, two-thirds of its 
cannon artillery, nearly all its engineering equipment that enables 
breaching of enemy minefields and obstacles, all its engineering 
equipment that enables clearing and proofing minefields, all its 
bridging, and nearly a third of its close support rotary and fixed wing 
aircraft. How is it possible for the Corps to have ``the most 
proficient combined arms teams on the globe'' without these needed 
weapons and items of equipment?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps defines combined arms in our 
doctrinal publications, specifically in Marine Corps Doctrinal 
Publication (MCDP) 1 Warfighting (dtd 4 April 2018). According to MCDP 
1, combined arms is ``the synchronized and simultaneous application of 
different arms and elements of combat power to achieve an effect 
greater than if each element were used separately or sequentially.'' In 
detail the combined arms section of MCDP-1 states that:

        ``In order to maximize combat power, we must use all the 
        available resources to best advantage. To do so, we must follow 
        a doctrine of combined arms. Combined arms is the full 
        integration of arms in such a way that to counteract one, the 
        enemy must become more vulnerable to another. We pose the enemy 
        not just with a problem, but with a dilemma--a no-win 
        situation.
        We accomplish combined arms through the tactics and techniques 
        we use at the lower levels and through task organization at 
        higher levels. In so doing, we take advantage of the 
        complementary characteristics of different types of units and 
        enhance our mobility and firepower. We use each arm for 
        missions that no other arm can perform as well; for example, we 
        assign aviation a task that cannot be performed equally well by 
        artillery. An example of the concept of combined arms at the 
        very lowest level is the complementary use of the automatic 
        weapon and grenade launcher within a fire team. We pin an enemy 
        down with the high-volume, direct fire of the automatic weapon, 
        making them a vulnerable target for the grenade launcher. If 
        they move to escape the impact of the grenades, we engage them 
        with the automatic weapon.
        We can expand the example to the MAGTF level: We use assault 
        support aircraft to quickly concentrate superior ground forces 
        for a breakthrough. We use artillery and close air support to 
        support the infantry penetration, and we use deep air support 
        to interdict enemy reinforcements that move to contain the 
        penetration. Targets which cannot be effectively suppressed by 
        artillery are engaged by close air support. In order to defend 
        against the infantry attack, the enemy must make themselves 
        vulnerable to the supporting arms. If they seek cover from the 
        supporting arms, our infantry can maneuver against them. In 
        order to block our penetration, the enemy must reinforce 
        quickly with their reserve. However, in order to avoid our deep 
        air support, they must stay off the roads, which means they can 
        only move slowly. If they move slowly, they cannot reinforce in 
        time to prevent our break-through. We have put them in a 
        dilemma.''

    MCDP 1 explains that combined arms are a fundamental concept of 
Marine Corps warfare, which involves the integration of various combat 
kinetic and non-kinetic capabilities. The goal of combined arms, 
employed with maneuver, `` . . . is to shatter the enemy's cohesion 
through a series of rapid, violent, and unexpected actions which create 
a turbulent and rapidly deteriorating situation with which the enemy 
cannot cope.'' Furthermore, MCDP 1 emphasizes that combined arms are 
not limited to the integration of combat arms but includes other 
elements of combat power, such as intelligence, logistics, and command 
and control.
    The definition of combined arms remains valid, though the means and 
methods of employment continue to evolve under Force Design 2030. One 
of the Marine Corps' capstone research and development projects in 
Force Design 2030 is the family of integrated targeting cells. The 
effort accelerates the evolution of combined arms multi-domain 
formations by fusing operations, intelligence, and fires functions 
(i.e., Combined Arms) together in a single center, creating the means 
for marine units to participate in and control joint fires, while also 
gaining and maintaining persistent custody of adversary targets. The 
Marine Corps today now has the ability to fight and contest in all five 
warfighting domains to include space and cyber. The integration of 
advanced technological capabilities has increased the lethality of the 
MAGTF to deter, but also contend against our adversaries in these 
domains with combat credible formations and capabilities that can 
provide precision fires at range. Additionally, Force Design 2030 
investments have prioritized sensing and communication capabilities 
that enable forward postured formations to detect and track 
adversaries' targets and provide the Joint Force with the necessary 
target data to project combat power into an Anti-Access/Area Denial 
environment. These efforts will continue to enable maneuver of units, 
but more importantly the maneuver of Joint Force units and the maneuver 
of maritime platforms.
    At its core, the Marine Corps modernization effort is focused on 
enhancing the ability to conduct combined arms. A key element of Force 
Design 2030 is developing and employing modern capabilities that 
contribute to a multiple joint ``kill webs.'' This approach also 
improves our ability to leverage non-lethal fires that provide the 
combatant commander more options in day-to-day competition and pre-
conflict deterrence activities. However, we continue to invest in 
modern lethal fire platforms that provide a more effective capability 
than legacy systems. This includes legacy systems such as heavy tanks 
and towed, tubed cannon artillery that lack the precision and range to 
be relevant in the maritime and littoral battlespaces applicable to our 
directed pacing threat. See question #20 for breakdown of retained 
artillery, as part of our kinetic, combined arms capability. Let us not 
forget that marines will be able to provide lethal combined arms with 
precision at ranges that far exceed current capabilities; combined arms 
inventory for FD2030: mortars, artillery, MLRS family of munitions on 
versatile JLTV platforms, HIMARS, loitering munitions, NSM, and close 
air support from RW and FW CAS. A rifle company will be able to destroy 
most targets on R400 (combined arms company assault range) before 
leaving the attack position, not the case in a pre-FD2030 rifle 
company.
    Prior to Force Design 2030 initiatives, the Marine Corps focused 
primarily on kinetic combined arms consisting of surface and air assets 
making our combined arms capabilities two dimensional. Today, the 
Marine Corps still maintains the ability to conduct combined arms in 
the surface, air, and sea domains but we have significantly increased 
both the kinetic and non-kinetic combined arms capabilities in the 
cyber and space domains creating a multi-domain capability. Regardless 
of what assets are utilized to employ combined arms, they will only be 
as effective as the Command and Control (C2) architecture that is 
designed to enable the execution of the assets. Therefore, Force Design 
2030 has focused significantly on organizing, training, and resourcing 
the MAGTF to effectively conduct MAGTF C2 at echelon and rapidly 
transition across the competition continuum to enable all-domain joint 
and combined kill webs. To do this we must transition from a legacy, 
air-land battle paradigm to a 21st Century, all-domain, joint single 
battle mindset. We can no longer accept multiple, disparate C2 systems 
optimized for single-domain awareness bound by analog/human-speed 
processing. There are a variety of ongoing efforts to evolve the 
Service's C2 capability to conduct all domain operations, enable kill 
webs, and further expand our value to the joint and combined force.
    Our Marine Air Command and Control System remains the exemplar for 
the Service's evolving C2 ecosystem and has showcased an innovative 
capability to enable kill webs across multiple domains via the Multi-
functional Air Operations Center (MAOC). Additionally, we are on track 
to create the first cadre of kill web subject matter experts via the C2 
Interface Control Officer Primary Military Occupational Specialty in 
2025.
    As evidenced by experiments, exercises, wargames, and analyses, the 
integration of intelligence, fires, and C2 is at the heart of the 
targeting cycle and is required to enable and conduct kill webs across 
multiple domains.

    108. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, do any of the changes to 
force structure in Force Design 2030 violate the Title 10 requirement 
that ``[t]he Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be 
so organized as to include not less than three combat divisions and 
three air wings, and such other land combat, aviation, and other 
services as may be organic therein?'' In your answer, please provide 
specific references to MCRP 1-10.1 and the exact number of marines in 
the three divisions and three air wings in 2018 and 2023.
    General Berger. Title 10 United States Code, Section 8063 (United 
States Marine Corps: composition; functions) states that:
    (a) The Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be 
so organized as to include not less than three combat divisions and 
three air wings, and such other land combat, aviation, and other 
services as may be organic therein. The Marine Corps shall be 
organized, trained, and equipped to provide fleet marine forces of 
combined arms, together with supporting air components, for service 
with the fleet in the seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and 
for the conduct of such land operations as may be essential to the 
prosecution of a naval campaign. In addition, the Marine Corps shall 
provide detachments and organizations for service on armed vessels of 
the Navy, shall provide security detachments for the protection of 
naval property at naval stations and bases, and shall perform such 
other duties as the President may direct. However, these additional 
duties may not detract from or interfere with the operations for which 
the Marine Corps is primarily organized.
    (b) The Marine Corps shall develop, in coordination with the Army 
and the Air Force, those phases of amphibious operations that pertain 
to the tactics, technique, and equipment used by landing forces.
    (c) The Marine Corps is responsible, in accordance with integrated 
joint mobilization plans, for the expansion of peacetime components of 
the Marine Corps to meet the needs of war.
    Force Design 2030 adheres to the requirements set forth in Title 10 
of the United States Code. The Marine Corps regularly assesses our 
force structure, capabilities, and readiness to ensure that we can 
fulfill our obligations as outlined in Title 10. Force Design 2030 
optimizes Marine Corps force structure to meet the demands the National 
Defense Strategy and of modern warfare. This plan was developed with 
the direction and oversight of senior civilian and military leaders.
    After the Commandant's Planning Guidance (CPG) was released in the 
summer of 2019 and Force Design 2030 modernization began, the Marine 
Corps has conducted over 400 congressional engagements with Members, 
Professional Staff Members, and staff from personal offices some of 
which were repeated engagements or deep dives with the same staff. The 
Marine Corps has averaged more than five congressional engagements a 
month for the past 3.5 years. Marine Corps leadership values and honors 
the need for congressional oversight and has actively supported that 
lawful requirement. Combat Development and Integration (CD&I) alone has 
conducted 209 of those engagements as of April 2023. Of those 209 
engagements roughly 30 percent were classified briefs at the secret 
level and above, we must respect the threat and the associated security 
classification protocols to safeguard critical capabilities. The 
remaining 70 percent of those engagements were at the unclassified 
level to be as transparent as possible in our modernization efforts.
    Force Design 2030 was also informed by an extensive and continuous 
review of current and future threats. The Intelligence Community (IC) 
Annual Threat Assessment continues to highlight the increase in 
military modernization from the Peoples Republic of China (PRC). The 
2023 IC Annual Threat Assessment has identified the PRC as working to 
field a military by 2027 designed to deter U.S. intervention in a 
future cross-strait crisis. Furthermore, the 2022 NSS identifies the 
People's Republic of China (PRC) as the only competitor with the intent 
and the capacity to reshape the international order. The 2018 and 2022 
NDS clearly State the case for change by identifying the Indo-Pacific 
as the priority theater from a competition and threat perspective.
    Force Design 2030 creates a more agile, flexible, and lethal force 
that is better equipped to operate forward, compete, project power and 
influence as directed by the National Defense Strategy and other 
strategic guidance documents. This includes enhancing the Marine Corps' 
ability to conduct expeditionary and amphibious operations, improving 
our ability to operate in contested and denied environments, and 
increasing our capacity to conduct distributed operations with joint 
and allied partners. These efforts are directly tied to our Title 10 
requirements of:

        ``The Marine Corps shall be organized, trained, and equipped to 
        provide fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with 
        supporting air components, for service with the fleet in the 
        seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and for the conduct 
        of such land operations as may be essential to the prosecution 
        of a naval campaign.''

    Over the past two decades the Marine Corps has been involved in a 
land campaign as the Nation directed and required. Force Design 2030 
redirects the Marine Corps to our original mission as a naval 
expeditionary force in readiness that supports the fleet commanders 
within the naval campaign. Overall, Force Design 2030 intends to ensure 
that the Marine Corps remains a highly capable and responsive force 
that can effectively fulfill our obligations under title 10 and other 
statutory and regulatory requirements.


    109. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, when responding to a 
question during the hearing on 18 April 2023 about where the Marine 
Corps would acquire the weapons and equipment it divested if needed in 
a future conflict, you stated that a combatant commander is able to 
tailor forces as required. You noted that it was your responsibility 
solely to organize, train, and equip marine forces. It stands to reason 
that marines would need to have the skill and knowledge to operate 
effectively in conjunction with supporting elements from sister 
Services, which would require training with them. Including information 
on units, dates, and locations, where have marines trained with the 
Army tank units, combat engineers, and bridging units in the past year?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps conducted multiple joint exercises 
with U.S. Army units in the previous 12 months at the National Training 
Center at Fort Irwin, California, the Joint Readiness Training Center 
at Fort Polk, Louisiana, and during Exercise NORTHERN STRIKE 23-1 at 
Selfridge Air National Guard Base, Michigan. The purpose of this 
training is to prepare marines to operate effectively in a joint 
environment. Consequently, Marine Corps Operation Plans (OPLANS) are 
being revised in accordance with guidance from Combatant Commanders, 
and capabilities contained in the Defense Readiness Tables and 
Apportionment Tables in response to Force Design 2030.
    Marine Corps training with Army tank, combat engineer, and bridging 
units in the previous 12 months includes:
      National Training Center 22-10; 3--16 Sept 2022; Ft 
Irwin, CA
      3d Low Altitude Air Defense Battalion trained with 2d 
Brigade Combat Team, 1st Armored Division to increase close-in, low 
altitude, surface-to-air weapons fire proficiency and readiness in 
support of maneuver elements and joint force.
      National Training Center 23-05; 20 Feb--31 Mar 2023; Ft 
Irwin, CA
      1st ANGLICO trained with 2d Armored Brigade Combat Team, 
3d Infantry Division to increase Joint Terminal Attack Controller 
proficiency and readiness.
      National Training Center 23-06; 20 Mar--30 Apr 2023; Ft 
Irwin, CA
      3d ANGLICO trained with 3d Armored Brigade Combat Team, 
1st Armored Division to increase Joint Terminal Attack Controller 
proficiency and readiness.
      NORTHERN STRIKE 23-1; 20--29 Jan 2023; Selfridge Air 
National Guard Base, MI
      VMFA-115 trained with 1st Battalion, 120th Field 
Artillery Regiment, 32d Infantry Brigade Combat Team to increase 
proficiency in Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations, cold weather 
Joint Close Air Support, Forward Air Controller-Airborne; Tactical Air 
Control-Airborne, Strike Coordination and Recon, Armed Recon, and 
Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses.
      Joint Readiness Training Center 23-04; 20 Feb--5 Mar 
2023; Ft Polk, LA
      2d ANGLICO trained with 2d Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 
10th Mountain Division to increase Joint Terminal Attack Controller 
proficiency and readiness.
      Joint Readiness Training Center 23-07; 12 Apr--13 May 
2023; Ft Polk, LA
      6th ANGLICO trained with 3d Infantry Brigade Combat Team-
Airborne, 82d Airborne Division to increase Joint Terminal Attack 
Controller proficiency and readiness.

    110. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in your statement for the 
Committee, you noted that``. . . the Marine Corps is now complete with 
our major divestments. Reducing the approved acquisition objectives 
(AAO) of major programs like the CH-53K or F-35 at this point would not 
produce resources for investment elsewhere and would be premature 
decisions.'' Because you have cut squadrons it is unclear where the 
major program aircraft you list will go if the Marine Corps retains the 
numbers of aircraft in the Program of Record (POR). Will a future 
commandant come back to Congress seeking funds for the personnel and 
support equipment required to again stand up the needed squadrons?
    General Berger. Force Design 2030 not only provides a roadmap for 
Marine Aviation to modernize and optimize into a more capable agile 
expeditionary force, but Force Design 2030 also sets Marine Aviation on 
the path to look to the future. For example, Marine Aviation is teaming 
with U.S. Navy in the development of the Marine Air Ground Task Force 
Unmanned Expeditionary Family of Systems (FoS). These efforts include 
acceleration of prototyping and experimentation of TACAIR Collaborative 
Combat Aircraft and building a common interoperable system control 
architecture for control of Joint assets. In parallel, Marine Aviation 
is also exploring the Vertical Takeoff and Landing Family of Systems 
(VTOL FOS), where the Logistics Connector is the first major effort to 
support the execution of the Stand-in Force (SIF) through airborne 
logistics in a contested environment. This portfolio also includes but 
is not limited to Air Loitering Munitions, an Attack/strike capability, 
and a future Assault support capability to replace our extant 
platforms.
    Force Design 2030 has expanded, optimized, and enhanced Marine 
Aviation's ability to provide unique and unmatched lethal, sustainable, 
and fiscally responsible capabilities to the MAGTF, JFMCC, and Joint 
Force.
    The Marine Corps Program of Record (POR) for F-35 is 420, and 200 
for CH-53Ks. Over the last two future-years defense programs (FYDP), 
these numbers have not changed. Nothing in the Force Design 2030 
modernization efforts, changes these programs of record and we have no 
plan to reduce the total number of aircraft.
    Historically, the number of squadrons (organizational construct) 
and aircraft (composition) within aviation units has always evolved 
inside the Program of Records (POR) to ensure the Marine Corps remains 
the Nation's crisis response force while modernizing and optimizing the 
fleet to meet the challenges of the future operating environment. To 
provide examples of this evolution, between 1990 and 2016:

      Between 1990 and 2015, CH-53 Active component Marine 
Heavy Lift Helicopter Squadrons (HMH) fluctuated from nine to ten, to 
nine, to ten, to eight.

      Between 1990 and 2016, H-1 Active component Marine Light 
Attack Helicopter Squadrons (HMLA) fluctuated from six to eight, to 
nine, to eight, to seven.

      Between 2011 to 2014, MV-22 Active component Marine 
Medium Tiltrotor Squadrons (VMM) fluctuated from 18 to 16 to 18.

      F/A-18 squadrons changed organizational construct or 
composition nine times between 1990-2016.

      In 1992, the Marine Corps had only one 18 plane EA-6B 
Prowler squadron which disaggregated into four squadrons with five 
planes each.

      In 2007, the Marine Corps planned an all F-35B fleet 
consisting of 14 squadrons of 10 aircraft and seven squadrons of 14 
aircraft. o In 2009, we increased seven of the squadron's allocations 
to 16 aircraft.

      In 2011, F-35C was incorporated.

      In 2013, the plan changed to nine squadrons of 16 
aircraft and nine squadrons of 10 aircraft.

      All these changes were done without adjusting the Program 
of Record.

    Force Design 2030 modernization optimized Marine Aviation to 
operate from austere, distributed locations and across extended 
distances while providing cutting-edge advantages to the naval 
expeditionary force through the six functions of Marine Aviation, which 
consists of: Offensive Air Support, Anti-Air Warfare, Assault Support, 
Air Reconnaissance, Electronic Warfare, and Control of Aircraft and 
Missiles. Marine Aviation is manned, trained, and equipped to conduct 
the six functions and is integral to tomorrow's Marine Air-Ground Task 
Force (MAGTF), bringing lethal, agile, and sustainable capabilities to 
compete with, deter, and--if necessary--defeat our Nation's 
adversaries. These functions have not changed as a result of Force 
Design 2030.

    111. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps' divestment 
of its tanks and assault breaching, route clearance, and bridging 
assets raises concerns about the Marine Corps' ability to meet its 
Title X requirement to organize, train and equip fleet marine forces 
``--for the conduct of such land operations as may be essential to the 
prosecution of a naval campaign.'' The Commandant has stated previously 
that the Marine Corps will get these items from the Army. Was an 
agreement in place with the Army when the Marine Corps began Force 
Design 2030 divestments?
    General Berger. Force Design intends to ensure that the Marine 
Corps remains a highly capable and responsive force that can 
effectively fulfill its obligations under Title 10 and other statutory 
and regulatory requirements that state:

        ``The Marine Corps shall be organized, trained, and equipped to 
        provide fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with 
        supporting air components, for service with the fleet in the 
        seizure or defense of advanced naval bases and for the conduct 
        of such land operations as may be essential to the prosecution 
        of a naval campaign.''

    The Marine Corps' Expeditionary Advanced Based Operations and 
Stand-In Forces (SIF) concepts are two of our primary modernization 
efforts that focus on distributed forces that can operate inside 
adversaries' weapons engagement zone, sense and make sense of the 
environment, and contribute to the joint kill web. Both concepts 
directly support the Marine Corps' title 10 requirements as an 
expeditionary force-in readiness in support of the overall naval 
campaign. After two decades of engaging in a prolonged land campaign in 
the Middle East, the 2018 and 2022 National Defense Strategies (NDS) 
redirect the services' focus toward Great Power Competition. After 
detailed planning, historical analysis, and a rigorous Campaign of 
Learning informed by multiple wargames it was determined that the 
Marine Corps was not prepared to support the naval campaign in the 21st 
Century threat environment. Platforms that were heavy, difficult to 
sustain, and provided less relevancy to an expeditionary environment 
were determined to be a lower priority for investments. Furthermore, 
decisions to divest were supported by the inherently joint nature in 
which the services are employed by combatant commanders while forward 
deployed.
    There was no formal agreement with the U.S. Army when the Marine 
Corps began Force Design modernization efforts. After multiple 
iterations of wargaming, analysis, and strategic guidance, heavy land-
combat capabilities were determined to not be a high priority for 
prosecuting the landward portion of a naval campaign in the areas 
prioritized to the naval Services in the NDS. This is especially true 
in the modern threat environment that is characterized by advanced 
technological capabilities that operate in multi-domain formations with 
long-range precision fires platforms creating an anti-access, area-
denial (A2/AD) dilemma for the surface naval fleet. The Marine Corps 
divested of tanks, route clearance, assault breaching, etc. to invest 
in new capabilities more readily applicable to the future joint 
maritime operating environment.
    Furthermore, the Marine Corps follows the Planning, Programming, 
Budgeting, Execution, and Analysis (PPBEA) process for all divestment 
and investment decisions. Within this process the Marine Corps develops 
its investment plans and balances those against available resources 
which feed the Department of the Navy's (DON) Program Objective 
Memorandum (POM). As part of PPBEA, the Marine Corps' budget request is 
adjudicated and scrutinized at all levels of leadership prior to its 
final submission to the Office of Management and Budget. Below is a 
graphical depiction of the DOD deliberation and decision bodies:


    The two most relevant decision bodies are the Marine Corps' 
Executive Requirements Oversight Council (E-MROC) and the Defense 
Management Action Group (DMAG). Were the Marine Corps to pursue further 
divestments, they would be identified during investment planning as 
potential offsets. The final decision on any divestment would be made 
by the Commandant during an E-MROC on the Marine Corps investment plan. 
Marine Corps investment planning is a holistic service-wide effort. 
This includes the Marine Corps component commands to the joint force, 
i.e. Marine Forces Pacific, Marine Forces North, Marine Forces Europe/
Africa, etc. These commands represent the service and advise their 
respective geographic combatant commands on potential force offerings 
and capabilities provided by the Marine Corps. The Commandant of the 
Marine Corps is the approving authority for the service's investment 
plan and its subsequent POM submission to the DON. Prior to being 
submitted to OSD via the DMAG, the Marine Corps' POM is briefed at the 
Naval Integration Planning and Programming Board which is chaired by 
the Secretary of the Navy. Once the SECNAV approves the Navy and Marine 
Corps POMs, they are submitted to the Office of the Secretary of 
Defense. Within OSD the primary office that reviews and scrutinizes 
submissions is the OSD Cost Assessment and Program Evaluation (CAPE). 
After being thoroughly reviewed, the service chiefs then brief the 
DMAG, chaired by the Secretary of Defense. The final output of this 
process is included within the Department of Defense portion of the 
President's Budget Request. Ultimately, the service is a force provider 
to the geographic combatant commands. Through the use of component 
commands, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, under his Title 10 
authorities, mans, trains, and equips, the service based on the needs 
of the joint force.

    112. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, are there any current 
agreements with the Army or other services on these divested or reduced 
capabilities?
    General Berger. No. While there are formal joint agreements for 
capabilities such as aerial refueling, theater level logistics, etc. 
there is no formal agreement with the other services concerning these 
capabilities divested of or reduced as a part of Force Design 
modernization efforts. It is worth repeating that any future fight will 
inherently be a joint fight. In that fight, we, as services, are tasked 
with manning, training, and equipping our respective forces to provide 
those forces to a Joint Force Commander who will have the authority to 
employ those forces with mutually supporting joint capability without 
the need for formal agreements or MOUs.
    The Marine Corps is organized, trained, and equipped to fight as a 
Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF). The most common MAGTFs in the 
Marine Corps is the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) which is organized 
across the three ship Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) based on the threat 
environment and historical trends of Combatant Commander mission 
assignments to the ARG/MEU team. The ARG/MEU team remains a tailorable 
and integrated tool for the joint force that is already working in that 
capacity.
    Given its modular organization, the MAGTF remains tailorable, able 
to receive attached units from other services or nations, such as naval 
construction battalions, or infantry/armor brigades. In 2016, the 26th 
MEU with the Kearsarge ARG was operating in the Central Command 
(CENTCOM) area of operations when the Combined Joint Task Force-
Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) was exploring different options 
for fire support accelerants in support of the fight against Islamic 
State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) forces in Northern Iraq. The CJTF-OIR 
tasked the 26th MEU with sending an artillery battery ashore to provide 
an Indirect Fire (IDF) capability to support Iraqi Forces in offensive 
operations to regain control of Mosul. The 26th MEU rapidly tasked 
organized a force that was comprised of an artillery battery, a reduced 
infantry company, and critical enablers that would provide specific 
capabilities for the unit. However, the artillery battery did not have 
a robust counter fire radar system that was critical for the threat 
environment. The Army had a AN/TPQ-53 radar system in Kuwait that 
accurately detects mortars, rockets, and artillery point of origins 
(POO) and expected point of impact (POI) to rapidly develop a counter-
fire mission. The Army also had a Counter-Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar 
(CRAM) system in Kuwait that provides force protection measures to 
ground force units from enemy IDF. Both the AN/TPQ-53 and the C-RAM 
assets were attached to the task organized force that the 26th MEU 
assigned to the mission. This is just one small example of the MEU's 
capacity to rapidly task organize for an assigned mission and integrate 
within the Joint Force to meet the operational requirements of the 
Combatant Command.

    113. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, has the Marine Corps 
formalized any agreement with the Army to provide equipment or 
capabilities since 2019?
    General Berger. No; however, should Marine Corps forces find 
themselves in a land campaign requiring the use of heavy armor, and if 
said armor is available within the theater of operations, the Joint 
Force Commander has the authority to task organize by pairing Marine 
Corps infantry formations with U.S. Army armored formations.
    The Marine Corps and the U.S. Army regularly train alongside one 
another employing the full spectrum of the respective service's 
capabilities. Once forward deployed in response to crisis or 
contingency, it is the Joint Force Commander's responsibility and 
prerogative to task organize his U.S. Army and Marine Corps formations 
in such a way that make sense to accomplish the mission. It is worth 
repeating that any future fight will inherently be a joint fight. In 
that fight, we, as services, are tasked with manning, training, and 
equipment our respective forces to provide those forces to a Joint 
Force Commander who will have the authority to employ those forces with 
mutually supporting joint capability.

    114. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what assurances has the 
Marine Corps received from the U.S. Army about the availability of 
these units or assets for training and integrating with marine 
formations during combat operations?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps and the U.S. Army regularly train 
alongside one another employing the full spectrum of the respective 
service's capabilities. Once forward deployed in response to crisis or 
contingency, it is the Joint Force Commander's responsibility and 
prerogative to task organize his U.S. Army and Marine Corps formations 
in such a way that make sense to accomplish the mission. It is worth 
repeating that any future fight will inherently be a joint fight. In 
that fight, we, as services, are tasked with manning, training, and 
equipment our respective forces to provide those forces to a Joint 
Force Commander who will have the authority to employ those forces with 
mutually supporting joint capability.

    115. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, during the May 2022 
Department of the Navy posture hearing, I asked you to ``provide to 
this Committee a timeline and a chart that anticipates year by year 
between now and 2030, or maybe even looking back when Force Design 2030 
began, to what we are divesting and what we are gaining and how will 
that make sure that the gap in the trough between divestment in combat 
capability is not so big that it poses risk to the force or mission.'' 
You answered ``I can absolutely do that. And that is the rationale that 
is the reason behind publishing each year, this is where we are with 
Force Design, this is what we have learned today, the actions taken, 
this is the plan ahead, which we published last month for this year.'' 
It has been almost a year since you made that commitment. Please 
provide the information requested in 2022 in a detailed format that 
clearly visualizes when capabilities have been divested or reduced 
since 2019?
    General Berger. The product you are referring to is the Force 
Design 2030 Annual Report. Since becoming Commandant, I have published 
an unclassified report to update the service and our various 
stakeholders about where we are it in our modernization. These reports 
capture and provide rationale to all decisions related to divestment. 
The 2022 report was released in May 2022.
    The 2023 Force Design 2030 annual report was released on 5 June. 
The annual reports from 2020-23 are included as enclosure 2 ``FD 2030 
Annual Update 2020-2023'' (please see Appendix).

    116. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, can you provide a timeline 
that indicates which Marine Corps capabilities, including equipment, 
Military Occupational Specialties, and number of personnel, have been 
divested or reduced because of Force Design 2030, as requested in 
Section 1023 of the fiscal year 2023 NDAA?
    General Berger. Over the past five President's Budget cycles from 
fiscal year 2020 through fiscal year 2024, the Marine Corps divested 
$18.2 billion of legacy equipment and invested $15.8 billion in 
modernization. The Marine Corps adopted a funding strategy based on 
investing in capabilities to maintain operational relevance, budget 
constraints, and compliance to strategic guidance. The following table 
shows the amount of funding divested and invested over the Future Years 
Defense Program (FYDP) in each of the five most recent budget cycles:


    With the drawdown of forces supporting operations in CENTCOM in 
2014, the Marine Corps identified the necessity to transition from 
sustaining a land campaign to modernizing the force in support of 
maritime campaigning inherent in our Title 10 requirements. To maintain 
operational and tactical relevance on a modern battlefield due to the 
evolution of technology, the Marine Corps divested of legacy force 
structures that were of lesser relevance for a naval expeditionary 
service. Additionally, budget constraints were identified by NDS 
architects and Marine Corps' Force Design 2030 planners with the 
underlying assumption that the department's topline budget would grow 
modestly at a 2 percent inflation rate. Furthermore, the Marine Corps' 
divestment strategy followed the 2018 and 2022 NDS and the associated 
Defense Planning Guidance that directed the divestment of legacy 
capabilities and modernization at the speed of the pacing threat.
    In the President's Budget 2020 cycle, the Marine Corps reallocated 
$0.7 billion by divesting of the AN/TPS-59 Air Defense Radar, AAV7A1 
Project Improvement Program, and the MV-22 Aerial Refueling System 
(VARS). These funds were used to invest in such programs as Ground 
Based Air Defense (GBAD), F-35 spares and Block 4 modification, nascent 
Command-and-Control systems, sensors, and communications platforms.
    In the President's Budget 2021 cycle, we reallocated $1.8 billion 
by divesting of certain ground programs such as the Light Armored 
Vehicle Program Improvement Project (LAV PIP) and M1A1 Weapons and 
Combat Vehicle Modification Kits. The Marine Corps also made a 2.3K 
Active Component reduction in end-strength, and unit modifications of 
Fleet Anti-terrorism teams and Combat Logistics Battalion. The Marine 
Corps used $1.2 billion of these funds to invest in Strike/Anti-surface 
warfare capabilities, network, sensors, intelligence platforms, Air 
Defense, Ground Combat lethality modernization, and S&T programs.
    In the President's Budget 2022 cycle, as part of the overall Force 
Design 2030 investment strategy, the Marine Corps made our second 
largest divestment of $5.9 billion by reducing the Active Component 
end-strength by 5,100, completing our divestments in legacy force 
structure such as Tanks, Bridging Companies, and Law Enforcement 
Battalions in addition to reducing Active and Reserve Infantry 
Battalions, Cannon Artillery Batteries, and Aviation Squadrons. One 
hundred percent of these divestments were directly used to invest in 
critical ground-based fires programs such as Navy Marine Corps 
Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS) and Organic Precision 
Fires Family of Systems (OPF FoS). Advanced sensor investments included 
the MAGTF Unmanned Aircraft System Expeditionary (MUX)/Medium Altitude 
Long Endurance (MALE)--MQ9A, Ground/Air Task Oriented Radar (G/ATOR) 
and MAGTF Electronic Warfare Ground Family of Systems (MEGFoS). 
Furthermore, critical ground networking investments were made in our 
Network on The Move (NOTM) and Marine Corps Enterprise Network (MCEN).
    In the President's Budget 2023 cycle, the Marine Corps made our 
largest divestment of $8.7 billion with a 744 reduction in Active 
component end-strength, as well as further reduction to legacy 
capabilities such as the Marine Corps Security Cooperation Group 
(MCSCG) and Marine Augmentation Program-Korea (MAP-K) programs and 
delayed procurement of Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs), F-35B 
Joint Strike Fighters, CH-53K Heavy Lift Helicopters. We also took 
unique approaches to save resources by reducing capacity during Marine 
Week, made a 10 percent reduction to Permanent Change of Station (PCS) 
moves, and a 15 percent reduction to Headquarters Marine Corps (HQMC) 
staff positions to include Marine Forces Reserve (MARFORES) and the 
supporting establishment. Nearly all these divestments, over $7.0 
billion, were directly used to modernize critical areas that enable 
Force Design 2030 by investing in multi-domain areas such as Command 
and Control (Big Data Platform), Counter Air, Counter C5ISR-T, MQ-9A 
Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) sensors and enablers, and Anti-Surface 
Warfare capabilities.
    In the President's Budget 2024 cycle, the Marine Corps reallocated 
over $1.1 billion from such programs as Organic Precision Fires, 
Amphibious Combat Vehicles, and Advanced Reconnaissance Vehicles, as 
well as a 15 percent reduction in the Marine Corps Bands program to 
eight field bands. All divested funds were directed utilized to invest 
in critical warfighting capabilities such as Signature Management 
(YETI), Secure Expeditionary Resilient Position, Navigation and Timing 
(SERPNT), Light Marine Air Defense Integrated System (L-MADIS), and 
Tactical Communication Modernization. Aviation investments were 
utilized to increase Flight Hour Program and the MV-22 nacelle 
improvement program. Additionally, several Talent Management 
investments were made, including increased funding for Sexual Assault 
Prevention and Response programs and the Marine Corps Embassy Security 
Guard.
    After completing five budget cycles with this approach, the Marine 
Corps does not plan to divest any more capacity or legacy programs. As 
part of the modernization strategy, the CMC prioritized the 
identification of risk areas to mitigate near term readiness and 
installations. The Marine Corps understands that modernization 
strategies in any organization will not be successful if the Marine 
Corps:

      fails to resource our major initiatives;

      fails to make the hard choices to align available 
resources with the strategy's level of ambition;

      fails to effectively incorporate new technologies and 
identify, recruit, and leverage new talent; and

      fails to reduce the barriers that limit collaboration 
with allies and partners.

    We aim to mitigate these and other risks through ruthless 
prioritization. The Marine Corps is now at a juncture where the service 
can no longer accept additional risk in readiness and installations.
    The two charts below identify specific military occupation 
specialties (MOS) (Graph 1) and platforms (Graph 3) that the Marine 
Corps reduced in capacity, divested completed of, or transitioned due 
to modernization efforts tied to strategic guidance.


    The Marine Corps regularly assesses its force structure, 
capabilities, and readiness to ensure that it can fulfill its 
obligations as outlined in title 10. Force Design 2030 seeks to 
optimize the Marine Corps' force structure to meet the demands of 
modern warfare. With the reduction in capacity in specific Military 
Occupation Specialties (MOS), Force Design 2030 acted on the necessity 
to train and equip critical enablers that enable the Marine Corps and 
forward deployed formations to operate in multi-domain environments. As 
a result, the Marine Corps invested in critical MOS that were either 
non-existent pre-Force Design 2030 or in need of acceleration. The 
increased investment in critical enablers such as intelligence, 
networks, communications, space, and cyber have accelerated the ability 
of the Marine Corps to operate in multi-domain operations at the 
tactical level.
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    An important aspect to distinguish in the Marine Corps' 
modernization is the distinct difference between a divestment in a 
platform compared to a transition or modernization in a platform. Based 
on analysis, wargaming, and experimentation the Commandant concluded in 
2020 that the Marine Corps' inventory of bridging platforms--Armored 
Vehicle Launched Bridge (AVLB), Medium Girder Bridges (MGB), and 
Improved Ribbon Bridges (IRB), were best suited for land operations 
ashore. For reference, the AVLBs, MGBs, and IRBs all require large 
black-bottom commercial sealift or Maritime Prepositioning Ships to get 
to the fight, requiring permissive offload at seaports and significant 
preparation time to prepare for onward movement to support maneuver. 
Even when permissive offloads are conducted, mobility mismatch between 
maneuver forces and engineering and breaching capabilities can pose 
tactical challenges. During the opening land conflict of the 2003 
invasion of Iraq, maneuver forces routinely outpaced supporting assets 
such as heavy logistical assets, bridging, and breaching capabilities. 
The tempo and threat environment of the future operating environment 
makes these heavy capabilities irrelevant, particularly considering the 
limited quantity of systems and the significant requirements for large 
shipping and aircraft to move these capabilities into position across a 
maritime theater.
    However, many of the above platforms are currently being 
transitioned to modernized platforms. The Amphibious Assault Vehicle 
(AAV) is transitioning to the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV). The 
Marine Corps will have 168 ACVs fielded by June 2023. This equates to 
27 percent of the 632-vehicle acquisition objective. These ACVs will 
equip seven Fleet Marine Force ACV Platoons, a training allocation at 
the Assault Amphibian School, and a test set at the Amphibious Vehicle 
Test Branch. Additionally, the High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled 
Vehicles (HMMWV) have begun a programmatic sunset synched with the 
fielding and complete service transition to the Joint Light Tactical 
Vehicles (JLTV). The Marine Corps will have 3,867 JLTVs and 332 JLTV 
trailers fielded by June 2023. This equates to 31 percent of the 12,500 
vehicle fiscal year 2030 acquisition objective and 8.3 percent of the 
4,000 JLTV trailer fiscal year 2030 acquisition objective. 84 percent 
of these vehicles will be fielded to I, II, and III Marine 
Expeditionary Forces. The remaining vehicles will be allocated to 
Marine Special Operations Command, Training and Education Command, and 
supported specialty truck programs (i.e., the Network on the Move and 
Marine Air Defense Integrated System programs).

    117. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, which of the capabilities 
being divested or reduced under Force Design 2030 will be provided by 
other services?
    General Berger. The primary capability divested by the Marine Corps 
as part of Force Design 2030 is the M1A1 main battle tank. Given that 
the Marine Corps has historically and by U.S. Code been responsible for 
the ``conduct of such land operations as may be essential to the 
prosecution of a naval campaign'' and informed by warfare trends, the 
Marine Corps divested tanks with the understanding that the Army 
possesses adequate armor capacity to respond to the demands of the 
joint force.
    Through detailed operational planning, historical analysis, and a 
rigorous Campaign of Learning we made some hard decisions regarding 
engineering and breaching capabilities. Consequently, the Marine Corps 
divested its inventory of bridging platforms to include the Armored 
Vehicle Launched Bridge (AVLB), Medium Girder Bridges (MGB), and 
Improved Ribbon Bridges (IRB) which are too heavy and slow to be 
relevant in modern operations. The Marine Corps and Army are working 
collectively with industry to develop a more suitable lightweight, 
scalable tactical bridging platform that can be transported on current 
Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs). The Marine Corps is currently 
awaiting delivery of three test vehicles for experimentation within our 
engineer formations. In the meantime, the Marine Corps retains its 
capability to do nonstandard bridging. On a frequent basis marine 
engineers are used for theater security cooperation and for support to 
other government agencies to construct non-standard bridges, which 
continues to build their experience with the use of local materials
    The Marine Corps also totally divested of its Active component law 
enforcement (LE) battalions; the Marine Corps retains one Reserve 
component LE battalion, 4th LE Battalion. The Marine Corps is confident 
that most LE battalion mission sets and requirements can be fulfilled 
by other Marine Corps formations during the conduct of a naval 
campaign. Any additional requirement for law enforcement exceeding what 
might be handled by organic Marine Corps units or by activating 
components of 4th LE Battalion will have to be handled by the Army.
    The Marine Corps has already effectively integrated with Army units 
and Army armor formations during past joint exercises. Examples 
include:

    1.  BALIKATAN 23: I MEF units and 25th Combat Aviation Brigade 
conducted a combined, joint all-domain rehearsal exercise with the 
Armed Forces of the Philippines and Australian Defense Forces to 
enhance warfighting advantage, strengthen alliances and partnerships, 
reorient theater posture, dominate the information environment, and 
ensure a free and open IndoPacific in April 2023.

    2.  TALISMAN SABER 21: 31st MEU, MRF-D, and 94th Army Air and 
Missile Defense Command units conducted a biennial combined exercise 
with Australian Defense Forces to enhance interoperability at the 
tactical level through a bilateral field training exercise and improve 
warfighting lethality by training in a high end, high-intensity 
environment under real-world threat conditions in July 2021.

    3.  REDLEG TEMPEST 21: SPMAGTF-CR-CC and 130th Field Artillery 
Brigade participated in a joint, bilateral exercise with the Royal 
Jordan Armed Forces at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base in Jordan focused on 
fire support coordination, mortar employment, and increasing 
interoperability among participants in August 2021.

    4.  SABER STRIKE 18: USAREUR led company level FTX/LFX and Brigade/
Battalion level CPX/CAX designed to sustain U.S. and Baltic Partner 
interoperability in the area of ISAF/OCO support focusing on 
counterinsurgency operations. Tank Plt from 4th Tank BN, 4th MARDIV. 
Latvia, June 2018.

    5.  NORTHERN STRIKE: National Guard Exercise in Michigan; typically 
supported by 4th MARDIV, tank platoon from 4th Tank Bn, 4th MARDIV; 
Michigan, August 2018

    6.  JOINT WARFIGHTING ASSESSMENT 19.1: An annual exercise that 
provides participating organization the opportunity to conduct joint 
operations in a realistic and large scale live/virtual/constructive 
training environment. Trains Army units below the corps level, 
services, SOF, and multinational participants. Marine forces attached 
to the CFLCC to simulate the expansion of the lodgment. Tank Co from 
4th Tank BN, 4th MARDIV; FT Bliss, TX April--May 2019.

    Moreover, the Marine Corps, organized as a MEU has routinely 
integrated with the Joint Force to provide increased capabilities. In 
2016, the 26th MEU with the Kearsarge ARG was operating in the Central 
Command (CENTCOM) area of operations when the Combined Joint Task 
Force-Operation Inherent Resolve (CJTF-OIR) was exploring different 
options for fire support accelerants in support of the fight against 
Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) forces in Northern Iraq. The 
CJTF-OIR tasked the 26th MEU with sending an artillery battery ashore 
to provide an Indirect Fire (IDF) capability to support Iraqi Forces in 
offensive operations to regain control of Mosul. The 26th MEU rapidly 
tasked organized a force that was comprised of an artillery battery, a 
reduced infantry company, and critical enablers that would provide 
specific capabilities for the unit. However, the artillery battery did 
not have a robust counter fire radar system that was critical for the 
threat environment. The Army had a AN/TPQ-53 radar system in Kuwait 
that accurately detects mortars, rockets, and artillery point of 
origins (POO) and expected point of impact (POI) to rapidly develop a 
counter-fire mission. The Army also had a Counter-Rocket, Artillery, 
and Mortar (CRAM) system in Kuwait that provides force protection 
measures to ground force units from enemy IDF. Both the AN/TPQ-53 and 
the C-RAM assets were attached to the task organized force that the 
26th MEU assigned to the mission.

    118. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, does the Marine Corps have 
any formal agreement or plan with other services to provide 
capabilities being divested or reduced under Force Design 2030 such as 
bridging or assault breaching?
    General Berger. While there are no formalized agreements for other 
services to provide capabilities divested or reduced under Force Design 
2030, it is important to note that any future fight will be a joint 
fight. In such a joint fight, we, as a service, are tasked with 
manning, training, and equipping our respective forces provide those 
forces to a Joint Force Commander who will have the authority to employ 
those forces with mutually supporting joint capability without the need 
for formal agreements or MOUs. It is highly unlikely that the Marine 
Corps will deploy as a stand-alone force to fight against a peer 
adversary for an extended periods absent support from the other 
services or the militaries of allied and partner nations.
    Force Design intends to ensure that the Marine Corps remains a 
highly capable and responsive for the Joint Force that can effectively 
fulfill its obligations under title 10 and other statutory and 
regulatory requirements that state:
    ``The Marine Corps shall be organized, trained, and equipped to 
provide fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with supporting 
air components, for service with the fleet in the seizure or defense of 
advanced naval bases and for the conduct of such land operations as may 
be essential to the prosecution of a naval campaign.''
    The Marine Corps' Expeditionary Advanced Based Operations and 
Stand-In Forces (SIF) concepts are two of our primary modernization 
efforts that focus on distributed forces that can operate inside 
adversaries' weapons engagement zone, sense and make sense of the 
environment, and contribute to the joint kill web. Both concepts 
directly support the Marine Corps' title 10 requirements as an 
expeditionary force-in readiness in support of the overall naval 
campaign. After two decades of engaging in a prolonged land campaign in 
the Middle East, the 2018 and 2022 National Defense Strategies (NDS) 
redirect the services' focus toward Great Power Competition. After 
detailed planning, historical analysis, and a rigorous Campaign of 
Learning informed by multiple wargames it was determined that the 
Marine Corps was not prepared to support the naval campaign in the 21st 
Century threat environment. Platforms that were heavy, difficult to 
sustain, and provided less relevancy to an expeditionary environment 
were determined to be a lower priority for investments. Furthermore, 
decisions to divest were supported by the inherently joint nature in 
which the services are employed by combatant commanders while forward 
deployed.
                      force design 2030 investment
    119. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, can you provide a timeline 
that indicates which Marine Corps capabilities, including equipment and 
Military Occupational Specialties, have been added because of Force 
Design 2030, including when they will achieve Initial Operational 
Capability and Full Operational Capability?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps regularly assesses its force 
structure, capabilities, and readiness to ensure that it can fulfill 
its obligations as outlined in Title 10. Force Design 2030 seeks to 
optimize the Marine Corps' force structure to meet the demands of 
modern warfare. With the reduction in capacity in specific Military 
Occupation Specialties (MOS), Force Design 2030 acted on the necessity 
to train and equip critical enablers that enable the Marine Corps and 
forward deployed formations to operate in multi-domain environments. As 
a result, the Marine Corps invested in critical MOS that were either 
non-existent pre-Force Design 2030 or in need of acceleration. The 
increased investment in critical enablers such as intelligence, 
networks, communications, space, and cyber have accelerated the ability 
of the Marine Corps to operate in multi-domain operations at the 
tactical level.
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    Over the past five President's Budget cycles from fiscal year 2020 
through fiscal year 2024, the Marine Corps divested $18.2 billion of 
legacy equipment and invested $15.8 billion in modernization. The 
Marine Corps adopted a funding strategy based on investing in 
capabilities to maintain operational relevance, budget constraints, and 
compliance to strategic guidance. The following table shows the amount 
of funding divested and invested over the Future Years Defense Program 
(FYDP) in each of the five most recent budget cycles:


    With the drawdown of forces supporting operations in CENTCOM in 
2014, the Marine Corps identified the necessity to transition from 
sustaining a land campaign to modernizing the force in support of 
maritime campaigning inherent in our Title 10 requirements. To maintain 
operational and tactical relevance on a modern battlefield due to the 
evolution of technology, the Marine Corps to divest of legacy force 
structures that were of lesser relevance for a naval expeditionary 
service. Additionally, budget constraints were identified by NDS 
architects and Marine Corps' Force Design 2030 planners with the 
underlying assumption that the department's topline budget would grow 
modestly at a 2 percent inflation rate. Furthermore, the Marine Corps' 
divestment strategy followed the 2018 and 2022 NDS and the associated 
Defense Planning Guidance that directed the divestment of legacy 
capabilities and modernization at the speed of the pacing threat.
    In the President's Budget 2020 cycle, the Marine Corps reallocated 
$0.7 billion by divesting of the AN/TPS-59 Air Defense Radar, AAV7A1 
Project Improvement Program, and the MV-22 Aerial Refueling System 
(VARS). These funds were used to invest in such programs as Ground 
Based Air Defense (GBAD), F-35 spares and Block 4 modification, nascent 
Command-and-Control systems, sensors, and communications platforms.
    In the President's Budget 2021 cycle, we reallocated $1.8 billion 
by divesting of certain ground programs such as the Light Armored 
Vehicle Program Improvement Project (LAV PIP) and M1A1 Weapons and 
Combat Vehicle Modification Kits. The Marine Corps also made a 2,300 
Active Component reduction in end-strength, and unit modifications of 
Fleet Anti-terrorism teams and Combat Logistics Battalion. The Marine 
Corps used $1.2 billion of these funds to invest in Strike/Anti-surface 
warfare capabilities, network, sensors, intelligence platforms, Air 
Defense, Ground Combat lethality modernization, and S&T programs.
    In the President's Budget 2022 cycle, as part of the overall Force 
Design 2030 investment strategy, the Marine Corps made our second 
largest divestment of $5.9 billion by reducing the Active Component 
end-strength by 5,100, completing our divestments in legacy force 
structure such as Tanks, Bridging Companies, and Law Enforcement 
Battalions in addition to reducing Active and Reserve Infantry 
Battalions, Cannon Artillery Batteries, and Aviation Squadrons. One 
hundred percent of these divestments were directly used to invest in 
critical ground-based fires programs such as Navy Marine Corps 
Expeditionary Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS)and Organic Precision 
Fires Family of Systems (OPF FoS). Advanced sensor investments included 
the MAGTF Unmanned Aircraft System Expeditionary (MUX)/Medium Altitude 
Long Endurance (MALE)--MQ9A, Ground/Air Task Oriented Radar (G/ATOR) 
and MAGTF Electronic Warfare Ground Family of Systems (MEGFoS). 
Furthermore, critical ground networking investments were made in our 
Network on The Move (NOTM) and Marine Corps Enterprise Network (MCEN).
    In the President' Budget 2023 cycle, the Marine Corps made our 
largest divestment of $8.7 billion with a 744 reduction in Active 
Component end-strength, as well as further reduction to legacy 
capabilities such as the Marine Corps Security Cooperation Group 
(MCSCG) and Marine Augmentation Program-Korea (MAP-K) programs and 
delayed procurement of Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs), F-35B 
Joint Strike Fighters, CH-53K Heavy Lift Helicopters. We also took 
unique approaches to save resources by reducing capacity during Marine 
Week, made a 10 percent reduction to Permanent Change of Station (PCS) 
moves, and a 15 percent reduction to Headquarters Marine Corps (HQMC) 
staff positions to include Marine Forces Reserve (MARFORES) and the 
supporting establishment. Nearly all these divestments, over $7.0 
billion, were directly used to modernize critical areas that enable 
Force Design 2030 by investing in multi-domain areas such as Command 
and Control (Big Data Platform), Counter Air, Counter C5ISR-T, MQ-9A 
Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) sensors and enablers, and Anti-Surface 
Warfare capabilities.
    In the President's Budget 2024 cycle, the Marine Corps reallocated 
over $1.1 billion from such programs as Organic Precision Fires, 
Amphibious Combat Vehicles, and Advanced Reconnaissance Vehicles, as 
well as a 15 percent reduction in the Marine Corps Bands program to 
eight field bands. All divested funds were directed utilized to invest 
in critical warfighting capabilities such as Signature Management 
(YETI), Secure Expeditionary Resilient Position, Navigation and Timing 
(SERPNT), Light Marine Air Defense Integrated System (L-MADIS), and 
Tactical Communication Modernization. Aviation investments were 
utilized to increase Flight Hour Program and the MV-22 nacelle 
improvement program. Additionally, several Talent Management 
investments were made, including increased funding for Sexual Assault 
Prevention and Response programs and the Marine Corps Embassy Security 
Guard.
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               responding across the spectrum of conflict
    120. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps you 
inherited in 2019 and the Marine Corps the next Commandant will inherit 
in 2023 look significantly different. In responses provided to my 
office by the Marine Corps following an April 14, 2023 brief on Section 
1023 of the fiscal year 2023 NDAA, the Marine Corps reported:
      A 56 percent reduction in the number of 155mm howitzers
      o  Pre-Force Design: 126 howitzers (21 x 6-gun batteries)
      o  Force Design: 56 howitzers (7 x 8-gun batteries)
      A 100 percent reduction in armor and associated assault 
bridging
      A 100 percent reduction in assault breaching with the 
total divestment of the M1150 Assault Breaching Vehicle fleet
      A 12 percent reduction in the number of infantry 
battalions (24 to 21) and a 9 percent reduction in the number of 
marines in each infantry battalion for a total of a 21 percent 
reduction of infantry marines which corresponds to one out of five in 
the Marines Corps.
    Are these numbers accurate?
    General Berger. The composition of the Marine Corps that the 39th 
Commandant will inherit will not look entirely different and the 
capabilities that have modernized our forces will ultimately increase 
the lethality of the Joint Force. The Marine Corps will still maintain 
three Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) Headquarters (Command Element--
CE) comprised of a combat division (Ground Combat Element--GCE), an 
aviation wing (Aviation Combat Element), and a logistics Group 
(Logistics Combat Element--LCE). This structure and composition of the 
Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) will not change, nor will the 
mission of the Marine Corps to provide an expeditionary force in 
readiness to fleet commanders in support of the naval campaign. 
Furthermore, the Marine Corps will continue to maintain seven Marine 
Expeditionary Units (MEUs) as the service continues to modernize. The 
22d, 24th, and 26th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from 
Marine Corps Base (MCB) Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The 11th, 13th, 
and 15th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from MCB Camp 
Pendleton in California. Last, the 31st MEU will continue to garrison 
and deploy from MCB Butler in Okinawa, Japan.
    However, the capability and capacity gains within the MAGTF have 
significant increases in lethality. The Pre-Force Design 2030 MAGTF was 
capable of fighting in three domains--land, air, and sea. Today, the 
MAGTF is capable of fighting in all five domains with the investments 
in space and cyber capabilities. The Marine Corps has primarily 
invested in these capabilities at the Command Element (CE) level with 
the increase in cyber and space military occupation specialties and the 
establishment of the Marine Information Group (MIG) (a product of 
Future Force 2025) within the MEF. Furthermore, we have significantly 
increased the lethality of the Ground Combat Element (GCE) with 
precision fires platforms with increased ranges and sensor capabilities 
to track and detect adversary targets at distance. The Aviation Combat 
Element (ACE) has increased both operational reach and lift capacity 
with investments in the CH-53K, MV-22B, and an increase in Active 
component KC-130C squadrons. The ACE has also increased in our ability 
to sense and make sense of the environment with fifth generation F-35 
platforms. As the pacing function the Logistics Combat Element (LCE) is 
developing new concepts for afloat and shore sustainment capabilities 
that are tethered within a network of appropriate command arrangements 
that expedite logistics in a contested environment.
    The increased lethality of the core infantry battalion is improved 
through increased manning. From 1995 until now, Battalion T/Os have 
gotten slightly smaller (from 904 to 897), but the manning percentage 
has increased, and the unit-to-unit variances have decreased. The 
higher manning level allows commanders to train as they will fight.'' 
For Infantry battalions, the manning as a percent of T/O is 97 percent 
now; up from 89 percent in 1995 (all battalions aggregated). In 1995 
only 5 of 24 battalions were manned above 100 percent of T/O while 12 
were below 90 percent of T/O, compared to that to 2023 where 10 
battalions are above 100 percent and only 5 are below 90 percent.
      A 56 percent reduction in the number of 155mm howitzers
      o  Pre-Force Design 2030: 126 howitzers (21 x 6-gun batteries)
      o  Force Design 2030: 56 howitzers (7 x 8-gun batteries)
      o  Both are accurate. Pre-Force Design 2030, the Marine Corps 
maintained 21 cannon artillery batteries organized with 6 howitzers for 
a total of 126 howitzers. In fiscal year 2027, the Marine Corps will 
retain 7 batteries organized with 8 howitzers for a total of 56 
howitzers, a roughly 56 percent reduction. The Marine Corps is 
transitioning 14 cannon artillery batteries to 14 Medium-Range Missile 
(MMSL) Batteries, which will be capable of employing multiple precision 
fire missiles, including Naval Strike Missiles and the MLRS Family of 
Munitions. Additionally, the Marine Corps will retain 6 Reserve 
component batteries, which will also increase to 8 howitzer batteries 
in fiscal year 2025. Since 2019, the lethal capacity of the Marine 
Divisions has increased. As measured by crew served weapons (in the 
graph below), to include artillery firing systems, combat vehicles, and 
infantry weapons systems, the Marine Corps possesses more combat power. 
By 2030 towed artillery, rockets, and missiles more than double (132 
percent) since 2019. NMESIS platform will also be able to fire MLRS 
FoM.
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      A 100 percent reduction in armor and associated assault 
bridging
      o  Both are accurate. The divestment of M1A1 Main Battle Tanks 
also nullified the requirement for the 85-ton load capacity of the 
Armored Vehicle-Launched Bridge (AVLB). The subsequent divestment of 
all AVLBs and associated force structure removed an assault bridging 
capability to accommodate the Marine Corps ground combat and tactical 
vehicle inventory. As a result, Marine Corps combat developers are now 
working with Army researchers and industry to develop a lightweight, 
scalable tactical bridging solution to accommodate all current (and 
planned) Marine Corps ground combat and tactical vehicles. That is, the 
Marine Corps has divested of non-expeditionary armor and associated 
assault bridging, capabilities that that are not optimized for maritime 
campaigning and instead seeks to generate expeditionary solutions to 
existing and emerging capability gaps.
      A 100 percent reduction in assault breaching with the 
total divestment of the M1150 Assault Breaching Vehicle fleet
      o  Mostly accurate. The weight and size of the M1150 Assault 
Breaching Vehicle (ABV) makes it incompatible for amphibious landings 
and littoral operations. However, the divestment of this armored 
breaching system including its twin M58 Mine Clearing Line Charges 
(MICLIC), remote firing machine gun, heavy armor protection, proofing 
and clearing attachments (i.e., mine plow, rake, and blade), and 
associated force structure does limit the Marine Ground Combat 
Element's ability to conduct protected and in-stride assault breaching. 
Dismounted marines continue to train with and utilize the Anti-
Personnel Obstacle Breaching Systems (APOBS) to blast 45-meter-long 
paths through anti-personnel mine and wire obstacles to enable foot-
mobile movement. Marine Combat Engineers also continue to train with 
and employ the trailer-mounted MICLIC for mounted operations for 
breaching 100-meter-long vehicle lanes through mines and other 
obstacles.
      A 12 percent reduction in the number of infantry 
battalions (24 to 21) and a 9 percent reduction in the number of 
marines in each infantry battalion for a total of a 21 percent 
reduction of infantry marines which corresponds to one out of five in 
the Marines Corps.
      o  Total force structure allocated to infantry battalions reduces 
until 2029, when the IBX-30 reorganization is complete. Force Structure 
reductions occur in two phases. Phase 1 included divestment of three 
infantry battalions; 3d Battalion 8th Marines in Camp Lejeune, 2d 
Battalion 3d Marines, and 3d Battalion 3d Marines in Hawaii along with 
the reorganization of 1st Battalion, 3d Marines into 3d Littoral Combat 
Team (LCT). Phase 2 of reductions is IBX-30 reorganization, which 
reduced the size of each infantry battalion by 9.4 percent, from 894 to 
811 marines (Marine Structure only--Does not include Navy structure 
within infantry battalions). The combination of reducing from 24 to 21 
Infantry Battalions and the IBX-30 reorganizations result in a 19.4 
percent reduction in infantry Battalion structure due to FD2030.
      o  However, both the Littoral Combat Team and the modernized IBX-
30 infantry reduction of marines within infantry battalions do not 
provide the necessary context to understand the increased lethality 
these formations have gained by investments in capabilities such as 
loitering munitions, advanced sensor assets, and critical 
communications equipment to synthesize targeting. There are more 
killing assets per infantry marine in 2030 than in 2019. Infantry 
battalion lethality, as measured by share of crew-served weapons per 
marine assigned to infantry battalion, increased by 28 percent from 
2019 to 2030. These smaller formations support Marine Corps concepts of 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO) and Stand-in Forces (SIF) 
that are capable of persisting inside an adversaries' weapons 
engagements zone during competition, responding to crises, and seizing 
and defending key maritime terrain during conflict.
      o  Inaccurate Combining the 12 percent reduction of infantry 
battalions and 9 percent reduction of marines within infantry 
battalions to equate to a 21 percent total loss does not provide the 
accurate context for the gain in capabilities. The manning percentage 
has increased substantially (89 percent to 97 percent) while working to 
achieve 100 percent manning. The 21 marine infantry battalions are 
still sufficient to meet operational commitments while maintaining a 
1:3 deployment to dwell ratio. These smaller formations support Marine 
Corps concepts of Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO) and 
Stand-in Forces (SIF) that are capable of persisting inside an 
adversaries' weapons engagements zone during competition, responding to 
crises, and seizing and defending key maritime terrain during conflict.
      o  As noted above these raw numbers do not provide the necessary 
context to understand the increased lethality these formations have 
gained by investments in capabilities such as precision fires, advanced 
sensor assets, and critical communications equipment to synthesize 
targeting. Moreover, as a combined arms force, the Marine Corps will 
retain 7 Active component and 6 Reserve component tube-artillery 
batteries and 14 Medium Range Missile (MMSL) batteries and 3 Long Range 
Missile (LMSL) batteries. While initially fielded with an anti-ship 
missile, the MMSL will incorporate the MLRS Family of Munitions (MFOM) 
allowing a wider array of effects. In aggregate, we have increased our 
ground indirect fires capability.
    Overall, the Marine Corps remains a combined arms force that can 
operate across multiple domains. Combined arms in the 21st century now 
encompasses additional domains such as space, cyber, and information, 
and new capabilities in each of these domains must be integrated within 
our combined arms approach. Additionally, the Marine Corps will still 
sense, communicate, and fire--just in new ways that are effective 
against technologically advanced peer adversaries.

    121. Senator Sullivan. The new Marine Littoral Regiments (MLRs), 
three of which will be established within III Marine Expeditionary 
Force (III MEF), will not have the minimum number of LSMs they need to 
execute Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO)/Stand-In Forces 
(SIF) for at least 5 years according to the Navy's shipbuilding plan, 
robbing them of intra-theater mobility. Will the MLRs be able to 
execute combat operations in the intervening years before they receive 
LSMs?
    General Berger. This is why it is important to acquire amphibious 
lift, 31 amphibious warships and 35 LSMs as quickly as possible. We 
appreciate your continued support to achieve this floor requirement. 
This is not a limitation MLRs created. All forces are dependent on 
Joint, Naval, and organic mobility assets to maneuver throughout the 
battlespace. However, the current programmatic timeline for Medium 
Landing Ships (LSMs) does not support delivery to support (1) MLR until 
fiscal year 2033. But the MLR has more access to lift than a current 
regiment does or 3d Marine Regiment did for combat operations. Prior to 
the creation of 3d MLR, infantry regiments in general required numbered 
fleet support for lift in support of combat operations, just as they do 
now. Until the LSM becomes fully operational, the service has explored 
other interim solutions to support SIF. The interim planned composition 
is (2) T-EPFs, (5) stern landing vessels (SLVs), and (5) LCUs until the 
LSM becomes available to support (1) Marine Regiment in fiscal year 
2033. T-EPF is a Military Sealift Command (MSC) operated vessel with 
capabilities comparable to LSM during competition (speed and lift 
capacity) but faces challenges in higher sea states and has no shore-
to-shore capability. SLVs operated by contracted civilian crews provide 
shore-to-shore capabilities comparable to LSM during competition. 
Moreover, emerging platforms such as the SLV and ancillary surface 
connectors (ASC) will be experimented with to determine the tactics, 
techniques, and procedures needed to best support the Stand In Force 
(SIF). LCUs provide marine elements of the SIF with proven tactical 
mobility that does not necessitate T-EPF or SLV but will face adequate 
crewing and maintenance challenges.
    Once LSMs are available in fiscal year 2033, the Marine Corps 
current requirement is (35) LSMs. The LSM requirement stems from a 
minimum of (9) LSMs required to support (1) Marine Regiment. Our SIF 
required maritime mobility for (3) Regiments. To ensure (27) LSMs are 
available for these forces at any given time, procurement includes (8) 
additional LSMs due to routine maintenance cycles at an 80 percent 
readiness rate. The LSM provides the Stand-in Forces (SIF) maneuver 
options and connect logistics webs within contested spaces. The LSM 
will be an important littoral maneuver platform that supports the SIF 
while forward deployed, engaging in campaigning activities that assure 
integrated deterrence. The LSM is capable of transporting personnel and 
equipment within an archipelagic environment such as the first island 
chain (FIC) where there is limited access to ports or runways.
    III Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF), as the service's only forward 
postured MEF, is uniquely suited to validate new concepts such as 
Expeditionary Advanced Based Operations (EABO) and Stand-in Forces 
(SIF). As an element of the SIF, III MEF supports naval, joint, and 
allied and partnered forces with agile, capable, and lethal forces able 
to operate across the competition continuum. Forces Stand in during 
competition alongside partners and allies, are forward postured to 
respond during crisis, and are capable of seizing and defending key 
maritime terrain during conflict while maintaining critical target data 
and maritime domain awareness for the Joint Force to project fires into 
the battlespace.
    Although III MEF demonstrates the ability to operate as a SIF 
without the Medium Landing Ship (LSM), the service and III MEF have 
registered the requirement for both inter-(operational) and intra-
(tactical) mobility.

    122. Senator Sullivan. Last year during your posture hearing we 
discussed a risk trough, the time between when existing Marine Corps 
combined capabilities are divested or reduced and new capabilities come 
on line to replace them. The world is a dangerous place and the Marine 
Corps seems to be firmly in the risk trough. This seems like the period 
of maximum danger. We are no longer the legacy Marine Corps yet the new 
capabilities promised with Force Design 2030 are not arrived. How is 
the force the next Commandant inherits better positioned to respond to 
contingencies across the conflict spectrum than the Marine Corps you 
inherited?
    General Berger. The composition of the Marine Corps that the 39th 
Commandant will inherit will not look entirely different and the 
capabilities that have modernized our forces will ultimately increase 
the lethality of the Joint Force. The Marine Corps maintains three 
Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF) Headquarters (Command Element--CE) 
comprised of a combat division (Ground Combat Element--GCE), an 
aviation wing (Aviation Combat Element), and a logistics Group 
(Logistics Combat Element--LCE). This structure and composition of the 
Marine Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) will not change, nor will the 
mission of the Marine Corps to provide an expeditionary force in 
readiness to fleet commanders in support of the naval campaign. 
Furthermore, the Marine Corps will continue to maintain seven Marine 
Expeditionary Units (MEUs) as the service continues to modernize. The 
22d, 24th, and 26th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from 
Marine Corps Base (MCB) Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The 11th, 13th, 
and 15th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from MCB Camp 
Pendleton in California. Last, the 31st MEU will continue to garrison 
and deploy from MCB Butler in Okinawa, Japan.
    However, the capability and capacity gains within the MAGTF have 
significant increases in lethality. The Pre-Force Design 2030 MAGTF was 
capable of fighting in three domains--land, air, and sea. Today, the 
MAGTF is capable of fighting in all five domains with the investments 
in space and cyber capabilities. The Marine Corps has primarily 
invested in these capabilities at the Command Element (CE) level with 
the increase in cyber and space military occupation specialties and the 
establishment of the Marine Information Group (MIG) (a product of 
Future Force 2025) within the MEF. Furthermore, we have significantly 
increased the lethality of the Ground Combat Element (GCE) with long 
range precision fires, and sensor capabilities to track and detect 
adversary targets at distance. The Aviation Combat Element (ACE) has 
increased both operational reach and lift capacity with investments in 
the CH-53K, MV-22B, and an increase in Active component KC-130C 
squadrons. The ACE has also increased in our ability to sense and make 
sense of the environment with fifth generation F-35 platforms. As the 
pacing function the Logistics Combat Element (LCE) is developing new 
concepts for afloat and shore sustainment capabilities that are 
tethered within a network of appropriate command arrangements that 
expedite logistics in a contested environment.
    Today, the Marine Corps is better prepared as a naval expeditionary 
force-in-readiness and to operate inside actively contested maritime 
spaces in support of fleet operations and joint campaigns. The Marine 
Corps is already standing-in alongside allies and partners within reach 
of enemy weapon systems during competition. During crisis the Marine 
Corps also continues to be the premiere global crisis response force. 
Critical to this is maintaining no less than 31 L-Class amphibious 
warfare ships and delivering 35 Medium Landing Ships (LSMs) to posture 
forces forward to provide the Marine Corps the required maritime 
maneuver and mobility. During conflict the SIF is prepared to seize and 
defend key maritime terrain, support sea control and denial operations, 
and maintain custody of maritime targets in support of projecting 
combat power from the Joint Force back into an anti-access, area denial 
environment.
    Additionally, while there is work needs to be done, our initial 
investments in lethality are already bearing fruit. With the support of 
congress, III Marine Expeditionary Force will be receiving the first 
delivery of the Navy Marine Corps Expeditionary Ship Interdiction 
System (NMESIS). This is a significant milestone, as within 3 years 
since Force Design 2030 started, we will be operationalizing a new 
capability we did not have before--a ground-based anti-ship capability.

    123. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in answers provided by the 
Marine Corps staff to questions from my office, the Marine Corps 
frequently stated that divested combat capabilities were ``incompatible 
for amphibious shipping and littoral operations.'' But not all future 
Marine Corps missions will be focused on littoral operations. How does 
Force Design 2030 support operations outside the littorals?
    General Berger. It is clearly understood that we are a naval force 
and are focused on the littorals. As you have pointed out from Title X, 
``the Marine Corps shall be organized, trained, and equipped to provide 
fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with supporting air 
components, for service with the fleet in the seizure or defense of 
advanced naval bases and for the conduct of such land operations as may 
be essential to the prosecution of a naval campaign.''
    But the Marine Corps is also capable of land operations as needed 
by our Nation. The Marine Corps' premier Service Level Training 
Exercises is in the deserts of Twenty-nine Palms in the Marine Corps 
Air Ground Combat Training Center (MCAGCC). Typically, every infantry 
battalion conducts its predeployment training and certification in 
either the Marine Corps Mountain Warfare Training Center (MCMWTC) or 
MCAGCC.
    The plan for light, lethal, and distributed forces would be 
successful in other Combatant Commands (COCOMs), such as European 
Command (EUCOM) or Central Command (CENTCOM)--and have shown to be 
successful. On 16 March 2022, TF 61/2, led by a Marine General Officer 
with a task-organized staff was integrated into the United States 6th 
Fleet Headquarters in Naples, Italy, and executed a combined joint 
exercise, planned operations for various ARG/MEU teams in multiple 
locations throughout the theater, and improved Maritime Domain 
Awareness for the Fleet Commander and partners and allies. Task Force 
61/2 executed a proof of concept during 2022 in which they provided 6th 
Fleet Headquarters with real-time Maritime Domain Awareness (MDA). In 
that effort, marine forces tested, refined, and validated concepts of 
employment for MDA and closing kill webs, while also conducting real-
world, time sensitive reconnaissance-counter reconnaissance missions. 
These efforts continue to support 6th Fleet operations as well as 
nested within EUCOM and Africa Command (AFRICOM) priorities and have 
since turned into a rotational force.
    Throughout history the military and national security experts have 
rarely--if ever--made accurate predictions about the next conflict. The 
same could be said about the current threat environment and the past 
two National Defense Strategies and Intelligence Communities (IC) 
Annual Threat Assessments that have emphasized an era of great power 
competition and the threat that Russia and China present to United 
States interests. However, over history we have always modernized, 
trained, and equipped our forces for the most dangerous threat which 
has enabled our flexibility to respond to global crises. As Force 
Design 2030 is threat-informed, the IC assess that the transition from 
ambiguous and unambiguous warning will happen within compressed 
timelines relative to decades before. Because of that, the Marine Corps 
cannot rely upon a Time Phased Force Deployment Data-approach to 
buildup capabilities, in permissive environments, to stock-pile 
capabilities. Non-expeditionary form factors only exasperate that 
problem. As such, the concern is not about one domain, but the threat 
and temporal estimates of transitions from ambiguous to unambiguous 
warning. Hence, the Marine Corps' value to the Joint Force is to be 
expeditionary and forward, to be credible, and to contribute not just 
to Combatant Commanders operations, activities, and investment (OAI), 
but to increase their flexible deterrence options (FDOs) and flexible 
response options (FROs). Capabilities that impede or frustrate our 
ability to be forward and to leverage sea-space for maneuver have not 
been prioritized as part of the Marine Corps' Redesign efforts Force 
Design 2030 continues to keep these factors in the forefront of our 
modernization efforts and maintain the ability to respond to any crisis 
around the globe. Specifically, the Marine Corps' Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations (EABO) and Stand-in Forces (SIF) concepts meet 
the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS) intent and are theater 
agnostic.
    This has also been demonstrated in the Indo-Pacific with a Navy-
Marine team of 7th Fleet and III MEF embarking on an 18-month 
experiment through the establishment of Task Force 76/3, which combines 
approximately 11,500 marines and sailors of Expeditionary Strike Group 
(ESG) 7 and 3d Marine Expeditionary Brigade (MEB) into a single command 
focused on campaigning inside the contested areas of the western 
Pacific. Furthermore, the Commandant in his 2022 annual Force Design 
2030 update directed the service to develop another JTF-HQ in II MEF to 
enhance our force offerings to the Combatant Commands.
    The Marine Corps still maintains all organic crisis response 
capabilities that enable the forward posture and rapid deployment of 
flexible and tailorable forces to the needs of the Combatant Commanders 
(COCOMs). The Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and Marine Expeditionary 
Units (MEU) are the most common Navy-Marine Corps tactical units that 
are forward deployed at the operational level and can accomplish 
strategic level engagements.
    The Marine Corps routinely trains to forcible entry operations in 
several joint and service-level exercises to include, but not limited 
to, Talisman Saber, Cold Response, and various Marine Expeditionary 
Force exercises and Marine Warfighting Exercises (MWXs).
    Furthermore, the Marine Corps continues to train for all crisis 
response missions during the MEUs pre-deployment training period (PTP). 
Training consists of afloat and ashore training environment that 
require the synchronization of assets across the MAGTF to accomplish an 
assigned objective. Our Training and Education 2030 publication 
describes the investment in Live, Virtual, and Constructive training 
environment (LVC-TE) that is inherently joint and enables the 
simultaneous training of geographically dispersed units. This 
capability will replicate, to the greatest extent possible, the 
conditions and threats that a commander will experience on tomorrow's 
battlefield.
    When the Marine Corps was completing the withdrawal from 
Afghanistan and there was a need for forces to support the embassy and 
non-combatant evacuation operations, the ARG/MEU was a key component of 
those operations. At a moment's notice, the Marine Corps was able to 
hold a defensive perimeter and process evacuees while providing a 
variety of aviation and other assets to support the broader evacuation.
    A heel-to-toe ARG/MEU provides the Nation a mobile, multi-mission 
force that is forward deployed and able to quickly move to any number 
of crises around the world. A naval crisis response force is 
significantly more flexible than other land-based crisis response 
forces because it is less restricted by issues of access, basing, and 
overflight. The ability to maneuver by sea to the point of crisis makes 
the ARG/MEU critical to our Nation's ability to demonstrate resolve in 
a HA/DR mission or to project power in a limited conflict. Another 
reason we appreciate your support in obtaining he floor requirement of 
amphibs, 31, and a healthy maintenance posture. In recent crises, like 
the earthquake in Turkey and the non-combatant evacuation (NEO) in 
Sudan, the Marine Corps had the ready-trained force with the right 
equipment; however, the readiness of amphibious shipping was not 
available.
    In the next two to 5 years, many of our amphibious ships will reach 
the end of their service life and will cause delays in ARG/MEU 
deployments. When there are gaps in global ARG/MEU coverage, the Nation 
risks not having the right assets capable of getting to the crisis in 
time. If the U.S. is not able to perform this role, our adversaries 
would be happy to step in with their forces and their messaging. The 
best way for marines to address complex situations in chaotic areas 
around the world is to maintain a minimum of 31 amphibious ships to 
support our ARG/MEU deployments.
    The Marine Corps, more than any other service, has a unique nature 
regarding essential requirements that are subject to the Naval Service 
budgetary process. For example, the amphibious warfare ship (AWS) 
statutory requirement includes capabilities that are critical for 
amphibious ships such as connectors, C4I afloat capabilities, 
preposition afloat assets, and the Next Generation Logistics Ship 
(NGLS). All of these are essential to the Stand-in Forces (SIF) and 
crisis response operations, yet all fall outside the Marine Corps Total 
Obligation Authority (TOA). We identify the Marine Corps' dependency on 
the Navy to champion naval requirements. Our nation is a maritime 
nation that requires a modern, ready, and forward postured naval force 
that can deter war and prevail in conflict if deterrence fails.

    124. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, for decades the Marine Corps 
has provided the hedge the U.S. military needs for unexpected 
contingencies. As the other Services focused on the Soviet military the 
Marine Corps honed its capabilities as the Nation's rapid global 
response force. One criticism of Marine Corps Force Design is that in 
reorienting on the ``pacing threat''--the Chinese People's Liberation 
Army (PLA)--the Marine Corps has given up much of its 9-1-1 
capabilities. Does Force Design 2030 retain the weapons and equipment 
that enabled the Marine Corps to hedge as the other Services turn their 
attention to China?
    General Berger. The most common MAGTFs in the Marine Corps is the 
Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU). However, the composition of how the 
MEU is spread across the three ship Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and 
what capabilities that are within it will be tailored to the threat 
environment and historical trends of Combatant Commander mission 
assignments to the ARG/MEU team. Prior to deployments, the ARG/MEU will 
conduct a 9-month pre-deployment training period (PTP) with various at 
sea exercises that allow the two commands to build and work on Standard 
Operating Procedures (SOPs) for assigned Mission Essential Tasks 
(METs). During at sea periods the ARG/MEU commanders, staff, and major 
subordinate commands will execute a variety of full mission profile 
exercises such as amphibious raids, amphibious assaults, non-combat 
evacuation operations (NEO), etc. The two commands will also coordinate 
with Fleet and Joint headquarters in the Combatant Commands that the 
ARG/MEU is expected to be assigned to during the deployment to 
coordinate Theatre Security Cooperation (TSC) exercises and receive 
intelligence briefs to understand the threat environment. Through the 
combination of the at sea training periods, development of SOPs, 
understanding of anticipated assigned missions, and the threat 
environment, the ARG/MEU team tailors what assets are assigned to each 
amphibious warfare ship within the ARG to be appropriately organized 
for operational deployment. As such, MAGTFs can and will vary in size 
and capability according to their assigned or likely missions.
    The Marine Corps has not divested any equipment or structure that 
prevent the service from still being the premier global crisis response 
force. The Marine Corps still maintains seven MEUs. The 22d, 24th, and 
26th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from Marine Corps Base 
(MCB) Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The 11th, 13th, and 15th MEUs 
will continue to garrison and deploy from MCB Camp Pendleton in 
California. Last, the 31st MEU will continue to garrison and deploy 
from MCB Butler in Okinawa, Japan. The structural organization of our 
MEUs will also remain the same and will be comprised of a Command 
Element (CE), a Battalion Landing Team (BLT) as the Ground Combat 
Element (GCE), a Composite Aviation Squadron as the Aviation Combat 
Element (ACE), and a Combat Logistics Battalion (CLB) as the Logistics 
Combat Element (LCE)
    Currently, the 26th MEU is conducting their Pre-Deployment Training 
Period (PTP) with the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) in 
preparation for their upcoming deployment this Summer. The Artillery 
Battery within the BLT for the MEU will be organized with a traditional 
M777 Howitzers platoon and a Force Design 2030 incorporated High 
Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) platoon. Throughout the PTP, 
the battery has been training on new Tactics, Techniques, and 
Procedures (TTPs) for HIMARS-Tactical Insertion Dynamic Employment (HI-
TIDE) that will enable the rapid employment of long-range precision 
fires after ship-to-shore connectors have maneuvered the assets. This 
employment concept is an aspect that supports the ability of 
expeditionary units that can contribute to sea-denial and sea-control 
operations. Maintaining control of Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) 
and the race for key maritime terrain is critical in the current 
operating threat that has created an Anti-Access, Area-Denial (A2AD) 
environment through the proliferation of low-cost long-range fires, 
sensors, and a communications architecture that place U.S. assets at 
risk. Although Force Design 2030 is modernizing, the capabilities 
resident within the MEU has increased lethality while the core 
structure and organization of the MEUs remain the same.
    The Marine Corps continues to have capacity for seven MEUs. That 
is, regardless of the availability or readiness of amphibious warfare 
ships, the Marine Corps has and will continue to field the same number 
of MEU even as the service continues to modernize. For the foreseeable 
future, the Marine Corps will maintain seven MEUs. Force Design 2030 
has not changed the number of MEUs the Marine Corps can field; in fact, 
Force Design 2030 reinforces the need for the continued global 
employment of this versatile and highly capable unit.
    However, unrelated to the Marine Corps modernization efforts with 
Force Design 2030, the Navy's readiness and inventory of amphibious 
warfare ships do impact the ability of the MEUs to be forward postured 
and available for Combatant Commander requirements. Over the past 10 
years the average operational readiness or availability of amphibious 
warfare ships has been 46 percent. This challenges the ARG/MEU team to 
adequately conduct critical pre-deployment training requirements and 
qualifications to conduct day and night operations at sea. This not 
only decreases the safety of our forces by reducing proficiency, but 
also decreases the Flexible Response Options (FDOs) and Flexible 
Deterrence Options (FDOs) of the Combatant Commanders to have ready and 
available forces for operational requirements.
    During the 1990's the amphibious warfare ship inventory exceeded 
operational employment allowing adequate time for maintenance, and more 
materially available ships to surge when required. For example, in 1991 
the Department of the Navy maintained roughly 60 amphibious warfare 
ships while only 37 percent were deployed. However, in the early 2000's 
the amphibious warfare ship inventory decreased by nearly half while 
the operational requirements maintained the same. Overtime as the 
operational demand remained consistent to historical baselines while 
inventory decreased, the material condition of amphibious warfare ships 
has been strained. This has led to common delays of ARG/MEU deployments 
and provides fewer ready ships to surge if directed.
    Finally, offered in attempt to add clarity to this QFR, multiple 
Administrations, multiple National Defense Strategies, and a half-dozen 
sets of associated Defense Planning Guidance, as informed by the 
broader Intelligence Community (IC), direct the Marine Corps to pace to 
the principal threat and focus on the principal theater. The Marine 
Corps does not have the authority--nor a differing understanding of the 
threat environment--to deviate from those threat-informed sets of 
strategy. The Marine Corps has complied with political leadership's 
overarching guidance and decisions--while retaining its ability to 
respond to crisis globally--as that same guidance charges the Navy and 
Marine Corps to retain response capabilities. In fact, a forward and 
credible, lethal and resilient, Stand-in Force does just that--it 
creates Flexible Deterrence Options and Flexible Response Options to 
Combatant Commanders in the face of emerging crises.

    125. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, you and LtGen Heckl have 
testified that the Marine Corps is fully capable of meeting all global 
commitments. Nearly 60 percent of the Maritime Prepositioning Forces 
required to sustain marines have been cut, the Marine Expeditionary 
Unit (MEU) Augmentation Program-Kuwait has been eliminated, and 
prepositioned equipment in Norway has been reduced. Do these reductions 
or eliminations or pre-positioned equipment impact the Marine Corps' 
ability to meet global commitments?
    General Berger. The Service remains fully capable of meeting all 
global commitments but due to the Navy's reduction of operational MPS 
ships, closing the force for some OPLANs will take longer. The 
Service's elimination of the MEU Augmentation Program--Kuwait 
supporting CENTCOM was due to it being purpose built to support marines 
deployed to and engaged in that region, and with the strategic guidance 
focusing the Marine Corps on the INDOPACOM theater, that purpose was no 
longer a priority based on available resources. The reduction in Marine 
Corps Prepositioning--Norway was of legacy equipment, which is no 
longer needed for a crisis response in EUCOM. However, with 5 
additional Maritime Prepositioning Ships (MPS) in Reduced Operating 
Status (ROS), it will take longer for Combatant Commands to close the 
force. This increase in time to close the force highlights the need to 
fully fund our prepositioning program.
    Current Impact: Placing 5 additional MPS in ROS will not only 
diminish the ability to forward position and sustain these additional 
forces required to counter aggressive People's Republic of China (PRC) 
actions, but also increase the strain on III MEF forces, allies, and 
partners in the FIC, and limited organic and joint air and maritime 
transportation assets.
    Future Impact: This impact will be felt most acutely in a crisis 
where the ability to close forces will be diminished by the requirement 
to use other assets to sustain already forward-postured forces.
    Additionally, MPF is tied to every Operation Plan (OPLAN), not just 
the Indo-Pacific ones. Placing Maritime Prepositioning Ships in a 
Reduced Operating Status delays the U.S. Marine Corps' responses in all 
OPLANs.
    Due to placing the 5 MPS in ROS, for MARFORPAC Crisis Response, MPS 
arriving in theater went from C+25 to now between C+60 and C+75. 
Sustainment will be late to need, resulting in critical risk to mission 
and force in terms of consequence.
    The Service is developing a Global Positioning Network (GPN) as a 
recognition that we need to think differently about how to preposition 
assets around the globe to support our Stand-in Forces across the full 
range of military operations.

    126. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, has the Marine Corps' 
capability to meet all global commitments been exacerbated by the 
admitted shortage of amphibious shipping?
    General Berger. Yes. A shortage of amphibious shipping has 
exacerbated the Marine Corps capability to meet global commitments.
    The decrease in the overall Amphibious Warfare Ships (AWS) 
inventory, combined with consistent/constant Global Force Management 
(GFM) demand and longer than planned maintenance availabilities have 
resulted in an overworked AWS fleet with no ``ready bench'' and 
insufficient numbers to fulfill Secretary of Defense directed GFM 
requirements, delayed ARG/MEU deployments (slower response), and 
reductions in amphibious training & certification periods (warfighting 
proficiency).
    Even at the current inventory of 31 AWS, fulfilling GFM 
requirements has been a struggle with 4 of our last 5 MEU/ARG 
deployments being delayed due to failing material readiness, and the 
5th one immediately having to return one of its ships to homeport due 
to material readiness issues.
    However, despite this challenge, the Marine Corps still maintains 
all organic crisis response capabilities that enable the forward 
posture and rapid deployment of flexible and tailorable forces to the 
needs of the Combatant Commanders (COCOMs). The Amphibious Ready Group 
(ARG) and MEU are the most well-known naval expeditionary Navy-Marine 
Corps tactical units that are forward deployed at the operational level 
and can accomplish strategic level engagements.
    The Marine Corps still possesses (7) Marine Expeditionary Units 
(MEU). Additionally, III MEF is capable of being employed as Joint Task 
Force headquarters (JTF-HQ) for various missions to include a forcible 
entry operation. Furthermore, the Commandant in his 2022 annual Force 
Design 2030 update directed the service to develop another JTF-HQ in II 
MEF to enhance our force offerings to the Combatant Commands.
    The Marine Corps routinely trains to forcible entry operations in a 
number of joint and service-level exercises to include, but not limited 
to, exercises Talisman Saber, Cold Response, and various Marine 
Expeditionary Force exercises and Marine Warfighting Exercises (MWXs).
    Furthermore, the Marine Corps continues to train for all crisis 
response missions during the MEUs pre-deployment training period (PTP). 
Training consists of afloat and ashore training environment that 
require the synchronization of assets across the MAGTF to accomplish an 
assigned objective. Our Training and Education 2030 publication 
describes the investment in Live, Virtual, and Constructive training 
environment (LVC-TE) that is inherently joint and enables the 
simultaneous training of geographically dispersed units. This 
capability will replicate, to the greatest extent possible, the 
conditions and threats that a commander will experience on tomorrow's 
battlefield.
    When the Marine Corps was completing the withdrawal from 
Afghanistan and there was a need for forces to support the embassy and 
non-combatant evacuation operations, the ARG/MEU was a key component of 
those operations. At a moment's notice, the Marine Corps was able to 
hold a defensive perimeter and process evacuees while providing a 
variety of aviation and other assets to support the broader evacuation.
    A heel-to-toe ARG/MEU provides the Nation a mobile, multi-mission 
force that is forward deployed and able to quickly move to any number 
of crises around the world. A naval crisis response force is 
significantly more flexible than other land-based crisis response 
forces because it is less restricted by issues of access, basing, and 
overflight. The ability to maneuver by sea to the point of crisis makes 
the ARG/MEU critical to our Nation's ability to demonstrate resolve in 
a HA/DR mission or to project power in a limited conflict.
    In the next two to 5 years, many of our amphibious ships will reach 
the end of their service life and will cause delays in ARG/MEU 
deployments. When there are gaps in global ARG/MEU coverage, the Nation 
risks not having the right assets capable of getting to the crisis in 
time. If the U.S. is not able to perform this role, our adversaries 
would likely step in with their forces and their messaging. The best 
way for marines to address complex situations in chaotic areas around 
the world is to maintain a minimum of 31 amphibious ships to support 
our ARG/MEU deployments.
    In recent crises, like the earthquake in Turkey and the non-
combatant evacuation (NEO) in Sudan, the Marine Corps had the ready-
trained force with the right equipment; however, the readiness of 
amphibious shipping was not available.
    The Marine Corps, more than any other service, has a unique nature 
regarding essential requirements that are subject to the Naval Service 
budgetary process. For example, the amphibious warfare ship (AWS) 
statutory requirement includes capabilities that are critical for 
amphibious ships such as connectors, C4I afloat capabilities, 
preposition afloat assets, and the Next Generation Logistics Ship 
(NGLS). All of these are essential to the Stand-in Forces (SIF) and 
crisis response operations, yet all fall outside the Marine Corps Total 
Obligation Authority (TOA). We identify the Marine Corps' dependency on 
the Navy to champion naval requirements. Our nation is a maritime 
nation that requires a modern, ready, and forward postured naval force 
that can deter war and prevail in conflict if deterrence fails.
    The next two forecasted ARG/MEUs to deploy have already been 
delayed due to extended Chief of Naval Operations Maintenance 
Availabilities and Material issues.
    The 31st MEU's last patrol (23.1) began as a 2-Ship Amphibious Task 
Force due to an emergent drydock for shafting issues on Dock Landing 
Ship (LSD) 47, which led to LSD 48 covering down late into the patrol 
and delaying her homeport shift back to the United States.
    Forward Deployed Naval Forces--Japan inventory will drop from 4 
ships to 3 ships in fiscal year 2025 when the USS Rushmore (LSD 47) is 
planned to decommission, years prior to her projected end of service 
life. This will reduce lift capacity and prevents embarking an entire 
MEU, creating risk to performance of all designed missions.
    Per the Chief of Naval Operations Instruction 3501.216C Force 
Composition of Afloat Navy and Naval Groups, a minimum of three ships 
comprises an ARG and a minimum of four ships is required in Forward 
Deployed Naval Forces--Japan (four ships to make three due to 
maintenance requirements). Additionally, (82) total incidents in 
Calendar Year 2021-2022 have impacted Amphibious Warfare Ship 
operational readiness. As our Amphibious Warfare Ship fleet ages, and 
our current ships retire faster than new ships are being delivered, we 
anticipate that material readiness impacts to national security will 
only worsen.
                               war games
    127. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, were the studies, war games, 
or analysis that informed your decision on the Marine Corps force 
structure briefed to the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of the Navy, 
Combatant Commanders, or Member of the Senate and House Armed Services 
Committees?
    General Berger. No one wargame, study, or live-force 
experimentation event was sufficient to prompt the service to undergo 
significant service-level changes to force structure. Instead, the body 
of evidence resulting from many wargames and experiments over the 
course of several years, which when aggregated, forced the service to 
admit change was necessary and thus provoked action. A collection of 
the most significant influencing events is included below.
    There are currently unclassified and secret wargame reports and 
experimentation reports that have been produced that either identified 
the need for Force Design 2030 or have resulted from wargames conducted 
to aid Force Design 2030 decisions.
    Reports are available for the following wargames and 
experimentation events which pre-dated FD2030:

    Advanced Naval Technology Exercise 2017, April 2017
      Purpose: Examine ship to shore maneuver, amphibious fire 
support and effects, amphibious C4, clearing amphibious assault lanes, 
and information warfare.
      Reports available: unclassified final report

    MAGTF Warrior 17 Wargame, 12-16 Jun 2017
      Purpose: Define Marine Corps capabilities required to 
conduct sea control and power projection within a joint campaign 
against a peer adversary.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

    Dawn Blitz 2017, Oct 2017
      Purpose: Examine EAB concepts such as naval integration, 
maritime strike, sea control, EAB development, and F-35 integration 
with Advance Field Artillery Tactical Data System (AFATDS)
      Reports available: unclassified report

    Expeditionary Warrior 18 Wargame, 2-6 April 2018
      Purpose: Examine operational level logistics support to 
marine expeditionary forces in the western Pacific in an anti-access/
area denial environment.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

    Naval Services Game 18, 9-12 July 2018
      Purpose: Explore command relationships, tasking, 
capabilities, and employment implications of Marine Corps and Navy 
forces task-organized for littoral combat across the full range of 
naval missions.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

    MAGTF Warrior 18 Wargame, 17-21 Sep 2018
      Purpose: Inform future logistics operating concepts of 
support and how the MEF will be organized, trained, and equipped to 
support and sustain operations as part of an inside force.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

    Within Sea Dragon Phase II initiative, Trident Juncture 2018, Oct-
Nov 2018
      Purpose: To test hybrid logistics, particularly data-
driven logistics systems and additive manufacturing with CLB-2 as the 
assigned experiment force
      Reports available: unclassified final report
    After the Commandant's Planning Guidance (CPG) was released in the 
summer of 2019 and Force Design 2030 modernization began, the Marine 
Corps has conducted over 400 congressional engagements with Members, 
Professional Staff Members, and staff from personal offices. We 
received extensive feedback from these engagements that helped inform 
follow-on experimentation. Marine Corps leadership values and honors 
the need for congressional oversight and has actively supported that 
lawful requirement.
    From January 2020 to April 2023, Headquarters Marine Corps, Combat 
Development and Integration (CD&I), alone has conducted 209 of those 
engagements. Of those 209 engagements roughly 30 percent were 
classified briefs at the secret level and above, we must respect the 
threat and the associated security classification protocols to 
safeguard critical capabilities. The remaining 70 percent of those 
engagements were at the unclassified level to be as transparent as 
possible in our modernization efforts. Combatant Commanders have been 
given advanced copies of Force Design products for comment. Several 
Combatant Commanders have testified with positive comments about he 
Marine Corps' modernization efforts.

    128. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, when did the Marine Corps 
determine its current amphibious shipping requirement of 31 ships?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps has a requirement for no less than 
31 amphibious warfare ships 10 LHA/LHD and 21 LPDs. Since 2019, three 
DON studies have examined amphibious warfare ship force structure 
requirements. The requirement was informed by combining the findings of 
those studies, the most recent being the SecNav directed Amphibious 
Fleet Requirement Study (AFRS) in 2022, with amphibious warfare ship 
readiness trends over the past 10 years. AFRS was a threat informed, 
scenario directed, model driven, multiple phase event executed by the 
analytic arms of the Navy and the Marine Corps. The findings of AFRS 
were briefed to the Service Chiefs and Secretary of the Navy; 31 
amphibious warfare ships were reported as the minimum required. This 
finding is consistent with 11 amphibious warfare ship inventory studies 
completed over the last 14 years.
    The readiness and inventory of amphibious warfare ships does impact 
the ability of our Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) to be forward 
postured and available for Combatant Commander requirements. Over the 
past 10 years the average operational readiness or availability of 
amphibious warfare ships has been 46 percent. This reduces the 
readiness of the Amphibious Ready Group (ARG)/MEU team from completing 
critical pre-deployment training period (PTP) qualifications to conduct 
day and night operations at sea. This not only decreases the safety of 
our forces by reducing proficiency, but also decreases the Flexible 
Response Options (FDOs) and Flexible Deterrence Options (FDOs) of the 
Combatant Commanders to have ready and available forces for operational 
requirements.
    During the 1990's the amphibious warfare ship inventory exceeded 
operational employment allowing adequate time for maintenance, and more 
materially available ships to surge when required. For example, in 1991 
the Department of the Navy maintained 63 amphibious warfare ships while 
only 37 percent were deployed. In the early 2000's the amphibious 
warfare ship inventory decreased to 39 with the operational lift 
requirement shifting to 2.5 Marine Expeditionary Brigades (MEBs). 
However, the operational requirements for deployed amphibious warfare 
ships maintained the same. As the operational demand remained 
consistent to historical baselines while inventory decreased by nearly 
50 percent, the material condition of amphibious warfare ships began to 
degrade. Between 2007 and 2020 the amphibious warfare ship inventory 
has fluctuated between 28 (low point in 2011) and 33 (high point in 
2019). The decrease in amphibious warfare ship inventory has created 
significant delays in our ability to maintain the material availability 
of ships and led to common delays of ARG/MEU deployments and provides 
fewer ready ships to surge if directed. As a result, we have not been 
able to maintain a consistent heel-to-toe ARG/MEU in our two primary 
theatres, EUCOM and INDOPACOM. Historically, the outgoing and incoming 
ARG/MEU units conduct a turnover while forward deployed providing the 
Combatant Commanders with a consistent ARG/MEU presence which 
eliminates any gap in a maritime crisis response force. The fiscal year 
2023 NDAA mandates an inventory of no less than 31 amphibious warfare 
ships which enables a forward deployed presence of ARG/MEUs for 
competition, campaigning, crisis response and contingency response for 
Combatant Commanders while having the ability to surge up to a total of 
five ARG/MEUs if required. However, this is only achievable if the 
availability and material readiness of amphibious warfare ships is 
maintained with consistent procurement of new ships to replace aging 
ships that are currently at the end of their service life.
    To be clear, critics of Force Design 2030 suggest that Force Design 
2030 has resulted in the drastic reduction in amphibious warfare ship 
capabilities and capacities. The critics' assertions are false. The 
slide below demonstrates a precipitous drop in the mid-90's when the 
Navy reduced the total fleet size post-cold war. That inventory was 
only exasperated due to nearly 2 decades of Middle East Campaigning, in 
which the Navy's Fleet was under----
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    Capitalized as the DOD prioritized sustained Middle East Land 
Campaigning. Several Commandants before General Berger have, too, 
worked to inform naval requirements, resourcing, and risk decisions. 
Ultimately, Force Design 2030 is not the cause of declining Amphibious 
Warfare Ship capabilities and capacities, and, in fact, Force Design 
2030 with its focus on naval campaigning should be credited sharpening 
DOD level deliberations regarding naval requirements.

    129. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in what documents was 31 
amphibious shipping requirement communicated to the OPNAV staff, 
Secretary of the Navy, Secretary of Defense, and Members of Congress?
    General Berger. Please see Question for the Record #128. USMC 
General Officers have repeatedly testified in Congress to 31 Amphibious 
ships being the minimum requirements. This is echoed in CAPE, OSD, DPG, 
and NDS meetings. Since 2019, three DON studies have examined 
amphibious warfare ship force structure requirements. The requirement 
was informed by combining the findings of those studies, the most 
recent being the SecNav directed Amphibious Fleet Requirement Study 
(AFRS) in 2022, with amphibious warfare ship readiness trends over the 
past 10 years. AFRS was a threat informed, scenario directed, model 
driven, multiple phased events, executed by the analytic arms of the 
Navy and the Marine Corps. The findings of AFRS were briefed to the 
Service chiefs, SecNav, and components of the Office of the Secretary 
of Defense (OSD), specifically reporting that 31 amphibious warfare 
ships as the minimum required. Congressional interest in the AFRS 
prompted OSD to submit a Report to Congress. On 27 December 2022, 
findings were submitted Members of Congress which modified the original 
AFRS by introducing a range of 25-31 as the requirement.

    130. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Center for Strategic and 
International Studies' recent war game ``First Battle of the Next War'' 
found MLRs could contribute to the fight on a limited basis but were 
largely nonfactors as political assumptions and China's defensive 
capabilities prevented them from being close enough to the fight. In 
fact, in several instances of the game, United States players tried to 
move an MLR onto Taiwan by air or sea, but in all cases the unit and 
transportation assets were destroyed trying to do so. Ultimately, the 
CSIS war game found one squadron of bombers alone had more impact on 
the battlespace than an MLR. What is your assessment of this war game 
and its conclusions?
    General Berger. The CSIS war game report on ``First Battle of the 
Next War'' provides an in-depth analysis of the challenge, the methods 
utilized, and key results. With additional context in the level of 
planning that went into the war game to include the players that were 
involved and the extent to which they were making decisions, based on 
operational contingency plans, more substantial feedback on the 
wargames report can be provided. Also, this wargame was unclassified 
using unclassified ranges of munitions. A secret or top-secret wargame 
and next generation munitions could alter the findings. The CSIS 
wargame summary emphasized:
    First, the criticality of employing a whole-of-government approach 
to prioritizing the deepening of diplomatic and military ties with 
regional allies and partners, especially Japan. The MLR placement and 
access to key maritime terrain in order to enable joint force maneuver 
is the basis of the entire idea of the Stand-in Force. The placement 
and access necessary to assure allies and partners, to deter 
adversaries, and to pose a credible threat in the event of armed 
conflict is contingent upon strong international ties developed through 
application of all the instruments of national power.
    The second point is that the United States cannot wait when 
deciding what to do in the event of a crisis. Should the PRC give 
indications and warnings of a cross-channel invasion of Taiwan and 
thereby escalate from competition to crisis, it is crucial for U.S. 
political leadership to act quickly to provide the Marine Corps with 
the time necessary to reposition forces on key maritime terrain where 
they can be optimally employed in support of the Joint Force. The 
longer the United States delays entering a potential future war, the 
more difficult the fight.
    While there are multiple points of agreement with the CSIS study 
and the Marine Corps' vision for the anticipated future operating 
environment, there were two areas of disagreement that must be 
highlighted:
    First, regarding the difficulties associated with resupplying 
missiles to an MLR while engaged in conflict, it is important to 
emphasize the MLR's kinetic fires capability is a secondary function. 
While the MLR certainly maintains a robust fires capability, its 
primary role is to function as part of an integrated and redundant 
network of expeditionary sensors at key battlespace chokepoints, 
providing situational awareness, targeting data, and Command & Control 
(C2) for the naval, joint, and coalition force. By combining Marine 
Corps sensors with joint kinetic and non-kinetic fires and effects, the 
stand-in force can hold key adversary assets at risk and disrupt 
adversary decisionmaking, thereby enabling the rapid deployment of 
naval, joint, and coalition forces in theater. The MLR provides 
combatant commanders with both optionality and improved information 
upon which to interpret and manage their decisionmaking space.
    Second, the MLR is also designed to deter and defeat strategic 
competitors through strengthening crucial relationships with allies and 
partners, reassuring them of U.S. security commitments, and to foster 
access in times of crisis or conflict. MLR is designed to be capable of 
interoperability with joint or coalition forces in the contact and 
blunt layers. In crisis, the MLR's forward posture and access enable 
it, in coordination with coalition forces, to hold adversary assets at 
risk, contribute to coalition forces' sea denial and sea control 
operations via organic lethality, and to close coalition kill webs and 
provide other critical enabling actions.. The MLR is purpose-built and 
designed to rapidly transition from competition, to conflict, and back 
to competition as escalatory dynamics dictate in support of either a 
joint or coalition force.

    131. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, was the Marine Corps 
involved in the execution of this CSIS war game?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps did not participate in the 
planning or execution of this event. Additionally, no personnel from 
the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab's Wargaming Division, which is 
responsible for our force design wargaming, was asked to participate or 
was otherwise involved.
    The Marine Corps continues to employ wargames, incorporating joint 
and allied partners, as an integrated component of the analytical 
processes necessary for force modernization. Through our Campaign of 
Learning (CoL) and modernization efforts, the Marine Corps has 
conducted (26) studies, (35) wargames, (19) experiments, and (40) 
integrated planning teams in support of Force Design 2030. The CoL 
informs modernization by providing a structured mechanism for 
evaluation, continuing the effort to be as efficient and effective as 
possible.
    The Marine Corps' experimentation plan and wargaming efforts for 
fiscal year 2023 are focused on identifying solutions to logistics and 
littoral maneuver challenges, optimizing infantry battalion and MLR 
structure and equipment, and identifying critical Marine Corps 
contributions to the Joint Force in competition and conflict. Examining 
Marine Corps concepts for reconnaissance/counter-reconnaissance and 
identifying capability strengths and gaps will also be a key part of 
our wargaming program. These efforts support a family of threat-
informed naval concepts that are well nested with joint warfighting 
approaches and are written to provide the basis for subsequent force 
design and development decisions. These Service-approved operating 
concepts call for enabling units with next-generation, uncrewed 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) and weaponized 
systems, enhanced situational awareness tools, communication 
infrastructure, and enhanced prototypes for littoral maneuver.

    132. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, has the Marine Corps 
discussed this war game with CSIS?
    General Berger. I can say with certainty that no personnel from the 
Marine Corps Warfighting Lab's Wargaming Division, which is responsible 
for our force design wargaming, was asked to participate or was 
otherwise involved. My staff did reach out to Mr. Mark Cancian to 
discuss the results of the wargame, he did not respond.

    133. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how does the Marine Corps 
respond to this CSIS assessment of the MLR's effectiveness? Please do 
not contend that the Marine Corps has access to classified information 
and CSIS does not.
    General Berger. The CSIS assessment of the MLR is largely based on 
using it to provide kinetic fires. While the MLR has the capability to 
provide these fires, its strongest contribution to the Joint Force is 
its ability to find, fix, and track adversary ships and aircraft, make 
sense of what will likely be a confusing and cluttered operating 
environment, and provide targeting information to other elements of the 
Joint Force to increase their effectiveness, efficiency, and 
survivability. At the same time, the MLR will contribute to denying or 
degrading an opponent's ability to do the same.
    During the campaign in the Solomon Islands during 1942 and 1943, 
Australian, British, and American coast watchers provided advanced 
warning of Japanese ship movements and aerial strike packages that 
enabled Allied ships and aircraft to position themselves for optimal 
intercepts, allowing our comparatively meager forces to prevent 
effective Japanese reinforcement of Guadalcanal and prevent effective 
Japanese attacks on United States land-based and naval forces. These 
small teams of personnel were extremely difficult to locate, tied down 
much larger Japanese forces intent on finding them, and had a massive 
impact in enabling the defeat of Japanese forces in the Solomon Islands 
without ever firing upon an aircraft or ship.
    The MLR is designed to perform many of these same functions. We 
understand the speed with which near-peer adversaries can target and 
engage our forces. The MLR's small operational footprint and mobility 
will allow it to survive in this highly contested and information 
saturated environment. If the enemy wants to expend an exquisite 
munition on a small number of marines--only to find they moved in the 
time it took the missile to arrive at its planned target--then that is 
one less exquisite missile bound for an aircraft carrier or key base. 
These forces will provide targeting-level information to the rest of 
the Joint Force, so that the 200 missiles a bomber squadron can carry 
are directed against the right targets in the right place, despite the 
fact that those targets may have moved hundreds of miles during the 
interval between launch of the aforementioned bombers and their arrival 
at their weapons release points.
    The CSIS report notes the difficulty associated with deploying an 
MLR to Taiwan after the start of hostilities. While an MLR could 
certainly be employed on the island of Taiwan, in the context of a 
western Pacific conflict it provides more value to the Joint Force by 
positioning on key pieces of maritime terrain and limiting an 
opponent's freedom of maneuver, east of the first island chain. When 
other targeting systems are degraded or denied, the MLR will leverage 
multi-domain communications pathways to provide targeting information 
to the Joint Force. In turn, this will limit other critical asset's 
exposure to threats while leveraging their larger weapons magazines and 
capabilities to attrite enemy forces. The
    MLR further supports the Joint Force by conducting sea denial 
operations through the prosecution of enemy forces with their own 
organic fires capabilities.
    Additionally, the MLR is intended to be partially deployed at all 
times, conducting exercises with allied and partner nations, bolstering 
their capabilities and interoperability. This creates uncertainty for 
potential adversaries as they will not know what they will be forced to 
contend with, should they choose to engage in armed conflict. Further, 
the MLR's partial deployment reduces the portion of the MLR that will 
need to be re-positioned in the event armed conflict commences. The 
Marine Corps recognizes that strategic lift is a vulnerable resource, 
and that it will be heavily employed by other Services in the event of 
significant U.S. force deployments. This is a large part of the reason 
the Marine Corps is seeking a light amphibious ship capability to 
deploy and sustain portions of the stand in force.
    It is also worth noting that the MLR tends to be perceived as a 
unit that is only useful in a western Pacific conflict. This is not the 
case. The capabilities of the MLR have proven useful in the Baltic 
during multi-lateral exercises, tracking real-world unfriendly contacts 
in multiple domains and providing that information to combined forces. 
There are numerous other maritime chokepoints around the world where 
the MLR can provide utility in ensuring friendly freedom of maneuver, 
while denying the opponents ability to maneuver.

    134. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what is the Marine Corps 
doing to assure access to terrain where MLRs are likely to operate in a 
contingency involving China or Russia?
    General Berger. ``Admiral Aquilino, when you look at the broader 
China threat in terms of our allies and partners, can you sort of walk 
us through that world of those partners?
    Admiral Aquilino responded with the following statement:
    ``Certainly, foundational to our strategic deterrence approach and 
integrated deterrence is the allies and partners and it's an asymmetric 
advantage. Let me just say that the strategy and approach is 
competition, not containment. And the five treaty allies of Japan, 
Korea, Australia, Philippines and Thailand are foundational, right. 
Those are mutual defense treaties that stand through Senate 
ratification and are truly important. But our approach is to pull in as 
many additional allies through a set of layers of many and multilateral 
engagements, operations and work we do together for a variety of 
reasons. Number one, we are like minded nations with common values. We 
have deep ties and that's beyond just the treaty allies. Indonesia, 
Malaysia, Bangladesh, all the nations in the region. And we operate and 
exercise with them frequently, 120 exercises a year, deep engagements 
in the form of key leader and other events. So, pulling that layer 
together, Congressman, is really important. And it is the asymmetric 
advantage because it's the one thing China doesn't have and that's 
partners.''
    During crisis and conflict, the ability for the Joint Force to gain 
and maintain access, basing, and overflight from our partners and 
allies are critical to projecting combat power in support of the 
combatant commanders. This is one of the significant advantages that 
the Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) / Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU) 
provides to combatant commanders in terms of Flexible Response Options 
(FROs) and Flexible Deterrence Options (FDOs). However, it is necessary 
to build and sustain those relationships during competition.
    During competition, the Marine Corps' Stand-In Forces (SIF) are 
executing this strategy by being forward postured with our partners and 
allies in support of the broader strategy of integrated deterrence. 
With the latest change to the international agreement with the 
Government of Japan, 12th MLR will provide a ready and capable stand-in 
force in the First Island Chain, prepared to support the United States 
and allied nations by bolstering our ability to support deterrence 
efforts and respond to contingencies. The 2+2 agreement enhances stand-
in force capability within the First Island chain which ensures these 
forward-deployed marines are ready to support our Allies amidst 
evolving regional and global security challenges. Today, there are more 
than 20,000 marines forward-postured west of the International Date 
Line. They live in our priority theater, assuring allies and partners, 
and working daily to respond to crisis, deter conflict and support a 
free and open Indo-Pacific. Should deterrence fail, our forward posture 
places forces already inside a potential Weapons Engagement Zone as a 
survivable and credible threat to our adversaries.
    Access for unit employment is largely within the remit of combatant 
commanders, but the Marine Corps works with combatant commanders and 
our allies and partners to establish relationships that are the 
foundation for future access. Some examples of this include scheduled 
bilateral and multilateral exercises like Balikatan and Nordic Response 
(formerly Cold Response), key leader engagements, high-level diplomatic 
meetings like the recent 2+2 with Japan, and humanitarian assistance/
disaster relief (HA/DR) support. Security agreements also play an 
important role in providing the legal and administrative framework for 
Marine Corps presence, while respecting the sovereignty and interests 
of U.S. allies and partners.

    135. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps has 
previously conducted its own war games as part of the Force Design 2030 
development effort. Will the Marine Corps release classified or 
unclassified versions of these war game conclusions to my office?
    General Berger. Yes.

    Reports are available for the following wargames:

MAGTF Warrior 17, 12-16 June 2017 (pre-FD 2030)
      Purpose: Define Marine Corps capabilities required to 
conduct sea control and power projection within a joint campaign 
against a peer adversary.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

Expeditionary Warrior 18, 2-6 April 2018 (pre-FD 2030)
      Purpose: Examine operational level logistics support to 
marine expeditionary forces in the western Pacific in an anti-access/
area denial environment.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

Naval Services Game 18, 9-12 July 2018 (pre-FD 2030)
      Purpose: Explore command relationships, tasking, 
capabilities, and employment implications of Marine Corps and Navy 
forces task-organized for littoral combat across the full range of 
naval missions.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

MAGTF Warrior 18, 17-21 September 2018 (pre-FD 2030)
      Purpose: Inform future logistics operating concepts of 
support and how the MEF will be organized, trained, and equipped to 
support and sustain operations as part of an inside force.
      Reports available: Secret final report.

POM22, 7-11 October 2019
      Purpose: Identify capability roadmap changes required to 
support Force Design 2030.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary.

Strategy 2030, 16-17 October 2019
      Purpose: Inform CMC Force Design 2030 construct and 
identify potential service-level risks associated with directed force 
reductions and reorganizations.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary.

Pacific Surprise, 21-31 October 2019 (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Operational level test of Force Design 2030 
force in context of extended joint, maritime campaign against the 
pacing threat.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Ghost Fleet 1, 14-17 January 2020 (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Examine the extent to which proposed FD 2030 MLR 
and MEU can support a given sea denial mission within the context of 
JFOS 2.2
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Black Sheep Squadron, 31 December 2019-28 January 2020
      Purpose: Explore concepts of employment and capabilities 
for manned and unmanned Marine Corps aviation assets to inform future 
force design and development.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary.

Ender's Shadow, 15 April and 21 August 2020 (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Inform FD 2030 decisions and the development of 
the Tentative Manual for Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (TM-
EABO) through tactical employment of and MLR capabilities as part of a 
joint maritime campaign conducted in the SCS.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, two Secret final 
reports.

Ghost Fleet 2, 20-24 July 2020
      Purpose: Examine the value of proposed sustainment 
vessels and existing Military Sealift Command ships in sustaining the 
Joint Force during a joint maritime campaign.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary.

Provident Forge, 23 September-6 October 2020
      Purpose: Evaluate the FD 2030 infantry battalion against 
selected mission requirements to assess capability when executing 
global crisis response and contingency missions.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Naval Services Game 20, 18-23 October 2020
      Purpose: Explore fleet integration of Navy and Marine 
Corps force design initiatives to inform command and control 
relationships to fight effectively.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Crown Jewel, 2 February-23 April 2021
      Purpose: Evaluate proposed FD2030 MEU construct and 
concept of employment against selected missions to gauge the 
formation's ability to execute proposed mission essential tasks.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

ENIGMA, 21 February-18 April 2021
      Purpose: Explore design and development considerations of 
Marine Information Detachments in support of forces operating in the 
information environment.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Stand-in Force, 29 March -2 April 2021 (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Inform design of a Stand-in Force that is 
optimized to conduct reconnaissance and counter-reconnaissance as part 
of a Joint Force campaign in SCS that can transition seamlessly between 
competition and conflict.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary.

Ender's Rise, three-game series between February-25 July 2021 (MLR-
focused)
      Purpose: Inform revisions and enhancements to the TM-EABO 
and recommend DOTMLPF-P actions to support organizing, training, and 
equipping Marine Littoral Regiments and Littoral Maneuver Squadrons in 
preparation in competition.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret 
``quicklook'' report.

Littoral Logistics (Expeditionary Warrior 21), 9-13 August 2021
      Purpose: Inform the development of concepts required to 
posture and sustain a naval force-in-readiness executing theater-level 
expeditionary advanced base operations in a contested environment.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Littoral Maneuver, 30 August-3 September 2021
      Purpose: Develop and assess boat capabilities and 
concepts of employment in order to inform requirements documents.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret final 
report.

Ground Warrior 22, 7 October 2021-17 February 2022
      Purpose: Refine and clarify the concept of employment 
for, and examine the composition of, the FD 2030 infantry battalion set 
against global mission requirements.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, secret 
``quicklook'' report.

Aviation Wargame, 13-17 December 2021
      Purpose: Review and refine marine aviation requirements 
in support of the Stand-in Force of 2030 and beyond.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, TS/SCI final 
report.

Expeditionary Warrior 22.1, 7-11 March 2022 (MLR-related)
      Purpose: Explore Marine Corps means of contributing to 
naval, joint, and national objectives in competition below the 
threshold of major armed combat.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, Secret 
``quicklook'' report.

Expeditionary Warrior 22.2 / Global 15, 16-20 May 2022 (MLR-related)
      Purpose: Examine Navy and Marine Corps afloat and ashore 
integration opportunities which enable a Joint Task Force scheme of 
maneuver and scheme of fires in a high-end conflict against a peer 
threat.
      Reports available: Unclassified summary, TS/SCI report 
(under classification review)

MLR Game 2022 Agile Competition/Agile Response (collaboration w/SAW), 
23-27 May 2022 (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Assess concepts related to the employment of 
Stand-in Forces and the Marine Littoral Regiment at the operational 
level of war during transition from competition to conflict.
      Reports available: Unclassified final report published in 
United States Naval Institute journal Proceedings

MLR Game 2023 (collaboration w/Krulak Center), 17 January and 24 March 
2023, (MLR-focused)
      Purpose: Identify alternative COAs to the current 
Littoral Combat Team construct.
      Reports available: Secret

Azure Dragon, 9-13 January 2023 (MLR-related)
      Purpose: Explore III MEF ability to transition from day-
to-day operations to major armed combat operations and explore MEF 
Major Subordinate Commands' ability to serve as Naval Task Group 
Headquarters.
      Reports available: Secret ``quicklook'' report, Secret 
final report (final review).

Ground Warrior 23, 13 December 22-6 January 23
      Purpose: Explore employment of the FD2030 infantry 
battalion in offensive operations and assess the sufficiency of the 
battalion's composition.
      Reports available: Secret final report (in review).

Other wargames have been conducted since January 2023, but those 
reports were not yet available at the time of responding to this QFR. 
Similar to the above, wargames (and other Campaign of Learning 
activities)--at the classified and unclassified level--will be made 
available on a need-to-know basis.
                            meu capabilities
    136. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the most visible component 
of the Marine Corps' crisis response capability is the MEU. The 2,200 
marines on a MEU, divided between a Battalion Landing Team, a Composite 
Helicopter Squadron, and a Combat Logistics Battalion, bring organic 
capabilities that a combatant commander can employ. Force Design 2030 
changes the type and amount of equipment available to the MEU as well 
as the structure and composition of units assigned to the Command 
Element (CE), Ground Combat Element (GCE), Aviation Combat Element 
(ACE), and Logistics Combat Element (LCE). Can you provide a detailed 
breakdown of the composition of the 31st MEU and the 13th MEU in 2018 
and 2023, including any changes to their Mission Essential Tasks and 
the number of marines assigned to the CE, GCE, ACE, and LCE?
    General Berger. Force Design 2030 has not changed the number of 
Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) the Marine Corps can field; in fact, 
Force Design 2030 reinforces the need for the continued global 
employment of this versatile and highly capable unit. The Marine Corps 
continues to have capacity for seven MEUs. That is, regardless of the 
availability or readiness of amphibious warfare ships, the Marine Corps 
has and will continue to field the same number of MEU even as the 
service continues to modernize. In the late 1980's, the Marine Corps 
changed the nomenclature of the Marine Amphibious Units to become the 
MEU. Since then, and for the foreseeable future, the Marine Corps will 
maintain seven MEUs.
    However, unrelated to the Marine Corps modernization efforts with 
Force Design 2030, the Navy's readiness and inventory of amphibious 
warfare ships do impact the ability of the MEUs to be forward postured 
and available for Combatant Commander requirements. Over the past 10 
years the average operational readiness or availability of amphibious 
warfare ships has been 46 percent. This challenges the Amphibious Ready 
Group (ARG)/MEU team to adequately conduct critical pre-deployment 
training requirements and qualifications to conduct day and night 
operations at sea. This not only decreases the safety of our forces by 
reducing proficiency, but also decreases the Flexible Response Options 
(FDOs) and Flexible Deterrence Options (FDOs) of the Combatant 
Commanders to have ready and available forces for operational 
requirements.
    During the 1990's the amphibious warfare ship inventory exceeded 
operational employment allowing adequate time for maintenance, and more 
materially available ships to surge when required. For example, in 1991 
the Department of the Navy maintained roughly 60 amphibious warfare 
ships while only 37 percent were deployed. However, in the early 2000's 
the amphibious warfare ship inventory decreased by nearly half while 
the operational requirements maintained the same. Overtime as the 
operational demand remained consistent to historical baselines while 
inventory decreased, the material condition of amphibious warfare ships 
has been strained. This has led to common delays of ARG/MEU deployments 
and provides fewer ready ships to surge if directed.
    The 22d, 24th, and 26th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy 
from Marine Corps Base (MCB) Camp Lejeune in North Carolina. The 11th, 
13th, and 15th MEUs will continue to garrison and deploy from MCB Camp 
Pendleton in California. Last, the 31st MEU will continue to garrison 
and deploy from MCB Butler in Okinawa, Japan.
    The structural organization of our MEUs will also remain the same 
and will be comprised of a Command Element (CE), a Battalion Landing 
Team (BLT) as the Ground Combat Element (GCE), a Composite Aviation 
Squadron as the Aviation Combat Element (ACE), and a Combat Logistics 
Battalion (CLB) as the Logistics Combat Element (LCE)
    Currently, the 26th MEU is conducting their Pre-Deployment Training 
Period (PTP) with the Bataan Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) in 
preparation for their upcoming deployment this Summer. The Artillery 
Battery within the BLT for the MEU will be organized with a traditional 
M777 Howitzers platoon and a Force Design incorporated High Mobility 
Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) platoon. Throughout the PTP, the 
battery has been training on new Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures 
(TTPs) for HIMARS-Tactical Insertion Dynamic Employment (HI-TIDE) that 
will enable the rapid employment of long-range precision fires after 
ship-to-shore connectors have maneuvered the assets. This employment 
concept is an aspect that supports the ability of expeditionary units 
that can contribute to sea-denial and sea-control operations. 
Maintaining control of Sea Lines of Communication (SLOC) and the race 
for key maritime terrain is critical in the current operating threat 
that has created an Anti-Access, Area-Denial (A2AD) environment through 
the proliferation of low-cost long-range fires, sensors, and a 
communications architecture that place U.S. assets at risk. Although 
Force Design is modernizing, the capabilities resident within the MEU 
has increased lethality while the core structure and organization of 
the MEUs remain the same.
    A. 13th MEU Summary. The Service has increased its number of F-35s 
from 6 to 10. This is only feasible in a 2x LPD class ship composition 
as executed in 2023 unless other aviation assets are reduced. The 
divestment of heavy main battle tanks has resulted in an increase in 
ashore mobility of personnel and cargo via additional All-Terrain 
Vehicles (ATVs), 7-tons, and Joint Light Tactical Vehicles (JLTVs). The 
temporary reduction in AAVs has allowed additional engineer equipment 
and containerized cargo to be embarked. The vertical takeoff and 
landing--unmanned aerial system (V-BATs) have begun fielding, placing 
an additional aviation capability with the medium deck ships during 
disaggregated operations. Personnel composition remains similar across 
the MAGTF.
    B. 31st MEU Summary. F-35s were slated to deploy in 2018, however 
were land-based for operational considerations. The homeport shift of 
LHA-6 USS America replacing LHD-1 USS Wasp in Forward Deployed Naval 
Forces--Japan (FDNF-J) has brought an F-35 certified flight deck into 
7th Fleet resulting in regular 5th Gen TACAIR presence with the MEU. 
Some traditional towed artillery has been replaced with HIMARS rocket 
artillery. As with 13th MEU, V-BATs have begun fielding with very 
positive feedback from our commanders, and personnel composition 
remains consistent.
    C. Detailed composition of MEU capabilities in 2018 and 2023 is 
provided below and is displayed in two columns (column 1 represents 
2018 and column 2 represents 2023).
    13th MEU Aircraft and UAS: MV-22: 10/10. CH-53: 4/4. AH-1: 4/4. UH-
1: 3/3. F-35: 6/10. V-BAT: 0/3.
    13th MEU Vehicles and Equipment: M777: 6/4. M1A1 Main Battle Tank: 
4/0. M88 Tank Retriever: 1/0. AAV: 15/0. LAV: 20/20. 7-Ton: 41/45. 
HMMWV/JLTV: 84/94. ATV: 7/17. Engineering equipment: 5/7. Containerized 
cargo: 468/548.
    31st MEU Aircraft and UAS: MV-22: 10/10. CH-53: 4/4. AH-1: 4/4. UH-
1: 3/3. F-35: 0/6. V-BAT: 0/3.
    31st MEU Vehicles and Equipment: M777: 6/4. HIMARS: 0/2. AAV: 15/0. 
LAV: 5/11. 7-Ton: 37/30. LVSR: 3/0. HMMWVs/JLTV: 85/49. ATV: 11/15. 
Engineering equipment: 5/2. Containerized cargo: 367/357.
    The Mission Essential Task List (METL) for both the 31st and 13th 
Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs) have experienced some changes between 
2018 and 2023. These changes included the removal of four METs:
      Conducting Theater Security Cooperation Activities
      Conducting Aviation Operations from Expeditionary Shore-
Based Sites
      Performing Enabling Operations
      Conducting Airfield Seizure Operations
    While adding one new MET: Establishing and Operating Expeditionary 
Advanced Bases.
    Now, both MEUs are expected to be capable of the following:
      Establishing an expeditionary site to support naval 
operations, which may include ports, airfields, Forward Arming and 
Refueling Points (FARPs), forward operating bases, and firing areas
      Conducting enabling operations as required for naval 
operations
      Establishing and maintaining operations at a site until 
it is either disestablished or control is transferred to another entity
      Reducing pockets of resistance, securing the area, and 
defending the site against company-level threats.
    While the METL for the 31st and 13th MEUs are identical, there is a 
minor difference in the baseline and advanced standards for Maritime 
Interception Operations (MIO). The primary difference is the specified 
ability to conduct daytime bottom-up entry, which is a baseline 
standard for the 13th MEU, but is an advanced standard for the 31st 
MEU.

    137. General Berger, the MEU GCE is based on a Battalion Landing 
Team (BLT) with three rifle companies. The standard attachments to form 
the BLT have been an artillery battery (6 x M777 lightweight 
howitzers), an assault amphibious vehicle (AAV) platoon (18-21 AAVs), a 
light armored reconnaissance platoon or company (6-25 Light Armored 
Vehicle variants), and engineer platoon, and a reconnaissance platoon. 
The composite squadron in the ACE traditionally deploys with the 
following mix of airframes and detachments: medium tiltrotor (VMM) 
squadron (10-12 x MV-22s), heavy helicopter squadron (HMH) detachment 
(4 x CH-53E/K), light attack helicopter squadron (HMLA) detachment (4 x 
AH-1Z and 3 x UH-1Y), marine attack squadron (VMA or VMFA) detachment 
(6 x AV-8B or F-35B), aerial refueler transport squadron (VMGR) 
detachment (2 x KC-130's), Marine Air Control Group (MACG) detachment, 
Marine Wing Support Squadron (MWSS) detachment, and a Marine Aviation 
Logistics Squadron (MALS) detachment. Typical MEU LCE equipment 
includes 15 MTVR, 18 HMMWVs, 2 M36 wreckers, 2 D-7 bulldozers, 3 
forklifts/front-loaders, 4 bulk fuel vehicles, 2 water vehicles, 1 
recovery AAV, and 1 noncombatant evacuation operations (NEO) tracking 
system. Are MEUs deploying in 2023 deploying with organizational 
structures like that described above?
    The organizational structure described above remains similar across 
all Marine Expeditionary Units (MEUs), except for the use of assault 
amphibious vehicles (AAV), and HIMARS. Currently, the force is 
transitioning to the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) and divesting of 
AAVs. The Service is currently on track to deploy the first ACV platoon 
via an ARG/MEU in fiscal year 2024 to fiscal year 2025, which is a 
change to the above organizational structure as described. MEUs will 
task organize based off assessments conducted by the MEF Commanders and 
the MARFORs. In some cases, a MEU may deploy with HIMARS (HIMARS 
Platoon has 2x Launchers) vice deploying with an artillery battery (6x 
M777 lightweight Howitzers). In this case, the Service's 31st MEU 
deploys with HIMARS as opposed to East and West Coast MEUs. Task 
Organization is driven by many factors such as the deployment schedule, 
forces available, pre-planned partnered exercises, and adversarial 
actions. The stated changes to Task Organization (T/O) and Table of 
Equipment (T/E) do not prevent the execution of any assigned Mission 
Essential Tasks (METs).

    138. General Berger, if MEUs deploying in 2023 will be organized 
differently that described above, please provide a detailed comparison 
of how they deviate from the standard MEU load out, including the 
number of personnel assigned to each unit within the CE, GCE, ACE, and 
LCE.
    See Question for the Record #137. The structural organization of 
our MEUs also remain the same and will be comprised of a Command 
Element (CE), a Battalion Landing Team (BLT) as the Ground Combat 
Element (GCE), a Composite Aviation Squadron as the Aviation Combat 
Element (ACE), and a Combat Logistics Battalion (CLB) as the Logistics 
Combat Element (LCE)
    The composition of how the MEU is spread across the three ship 
Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) and what capabilities are within it will 
be tailored to the threat environment and historical trends of 
Combatant Commander mission assignments to the ARG/MEU team. Prior to 
deployments, the ARG/MEU will conduct a 9-month pre-deployment training 
period (PTP) with various at sea exercises that allow the two commands 
to build and work on Standard Operating Procedures (SOPs) for assigned 
Mission Essential Tasks (METs). During at sea periods the ARG/MEU 
commanders, staff, and major subordinate commands will execute a 
variety of full mission profile exercises such as amphibious raids, 
amphibious assaults, non-combat evacuation operations (NEO). The two 
commands will also coordinate with Fleet and Joint headquarters in the 
Combatant Commands that the ARG/MEU is expected to be assigned to 
during the deployment to coordinate Theatre Security Cooperation (TSC) 
exercises and receive intelligence briefs to understand the threat 
environment. Through the combination of the at sea training periods, 
development of SOPs, understanding of anticipated assigned missions, 
and the threat environment, the ARG/MEU team tailors what assets are 
assigned to each amphibious warfare ship within the ARG to be 
appropriately organized for operational deployment. As such, MAGTFs can 
and will vary in size and capability according to their assigned or 
likely missions.

                     force design 2030 transparency
    139. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, it has been reported that 
senior marine officers were required to sign non-disclosure agreements 
after working on Force Design 2030. Is this accurate?
    General Berger. Prior to the public release of information and 
decisions made, regarding Force Design 2030, the Marine Corps provided 
Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDA) to a select number of officers and 
staff. These NDAs were provided in an effort to minimize incorrect 
information and guidance from being publicly shared while Force Design 
2030 was in its developmental stage. These officers and staff were 
members of a select, core group who were instrumental in the 
decisionmaking process. The NDAs were provided and signed on a 
voluntary basis, whereby if a member of the group did not desire to 
sign the NDA, they were not forced to sign and participate.
    This practice of non-disclosure agreements is not uncommon--in the 
private nor in the public sector--where organizations are considering 
change-at-scale. The Service relied upon a small group of hand-
selected, senior planners, to include a number of retired General 
Officers, that spanned the MAGTF and possessed a diverse experience 
base. They helped to craft General Berger's Commandant's Planning 
Guidance and the initial framework of Force Design, not a part of a 
public forum, but as a small team of critical thinkers, helping the 
Service mature its Force Design initiative. Subsequently, using a 
concentric-circles approach to implementing change-models, during the 
first year of planning, in which the foundations of Force Design were 
matured, a broader population of senior planners and subject matter 
experts were selected to support Service-level planning efforts--and 
were subject to non-disclosure agreements--so as to (a) afford the 
planners with the opportunity to creatively think absent limitations or 
pressures of ``sustaining status quo'' while (b) allowing nascent ideas 
to be discussed, developed, and matured before they were made public. 
Simply put--this is responsible planning. In the second year of 
planning, better matured ideas that required further examination, to 
include understanding their broader Service-level implications across 
the Fleet, the Supporting Establishment, and the Service's 
Headquarters, allowed for the concentric circle of planners to be 
further expanded. Twelve to 24 months later, outputs such a Talent 
Management 2030, Training and Education 2030, and Installations and 
Logistics 2030--all institutional enablers to a redesigned Marine 
Corps--were generated. Simply put, this process of change--the use of 
concentric circles of planners--to include the temporary use of non-
disclosure agreements--is not unique to Force Design and, in fact, in 
the private and public sector, is a well-recognized technique to 
implement change.

    140. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, if senior Marine Officers 
were required to sign non-disclosure agreements after working on Force 
Design 2030, why was that necessary?
    General Berger. See Questions for the Record #139. It was 
determined that those involved be restricted from discussing the topic 
with those not read in to prevent the disclosure of anything pre-
decisional. Select personnel were subject to non-disclosure agreements 
so as to (a) afford the planners with the opportunity to creatively 
think absent limitations or pressures of ``sustaining status quo'' 
while (b) allowing nascent ideas to be discussed, developed, and 
matured before they were made public.

    141. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, you indicated that the 
Marine Corps has conducted over 400 engagements with Congress to 
discuss Force Design 2030. Can you provide a list of those engagements 
specifying whether they were meetings, briefs, or hearings with Members 
of Congress to discuss Force Design 2030 or other issues within the 
Marine Corps?
    General Berger. When the Marine Corps first undertook Force Design 
2030, we assessed that the Congress would be a key partner in the 
development and execution. We understood that to move at the necessary 
speed that the pacing threat required, we would need to capitalize on 
the wisdom and perspectives of both Members and staff of the Congress. 
They were an essential source of information on our Campaign of 
Learning--where we sought to rapidly inject lessons learned, wargaming 
and experimentation into our decisions. We sought congressional 
oversight at the start--so as to take advantage of the invaluable 
perspective of Congress.
    In 2019, the Service released the Commandant's Planning Guidance, 
setting forth the intent and direction for the Force Design 2030 
initiative. The document emphasized the need to reallocate resources 
and shift the Marine Corps' focus toward future conflict scenarios, 
such as great power competition and naval integration. It was 
recognized we need to provide regular updates, engage in briefings, and 
seek congressional feedback to ensure that the Force Design 2030 
aligned with national security objectives and received appropriate 
oversight.
    Following the release of the Planning Guidance, the Service 
actively engaged with Congress to facilitate a robust and ongoing 
dialog. Marine Corps leaders conducted multiple office calls and 
briefings to provide in-depth insights into the Force Design 2030, be 
available to address any concerns, and solicit feedback from Members of 
Congress, as well as personal and professional staff. From 2019 until 
the release of Force Design 2030 in March 2020, the staff participated 
in 31 engagements (office calls, breakfasts, briefings, phone calls, 
and events) with Members of Congress, committee personnel, and 
personal.
    These engagements spanned comprehensive classified and unclassified 
presentations on force structure changes, acquisition plans, projected 
budgets, and anticipated timelines. The program briefs were especially 
detailed to ensure projected investments remained on cost, on schedule, 
and within performance parameters. During these briefs and office 
calls, the marine briefers welcomed rigorous scrutiny and worked 
closely with congressional committees, so as to take full advantage of 
their experience.
    As Force Design 2030 plans began implementation, the Service 
remained committed to transparency by sharing progress reports, 
conducting site visits, and facilitating access to classified and 
unclassified information related to the Force Design 2030. Regular 
updates and consultations with relevant committees were established to 
maintain a continuous flow of information, enabling Congress to 
effectively exercise its oversight responsibilities.
    Since 2020, the Service has increased congressional engagements 
upon the release of Force Design 2030 and in subsequent years.

*Each items listed reflects a separate, distinct engagement.

2020
Office Calls with Members: 35
]Briefings to Members: 13
Briefings to Professional or Personal Staff: 37
Other (breakfasts, etc.): 6
Total Engagements: 91

2021
Office Calls with Members: 56
Briefings to Members: 19
Briefings to Professional or Personal Staff: 39
Other (breakfasts, etc.): 13
Total Engagements: 127

2022
Office Calls with Members: 69
Briefings to Members: 19
Briefings to Professional or Personal Staff: 64
Other (breakfasts, etc.): 29
Total Engagements: 181

2023
Office Calls with Members: 32
Briefings to Members: 10
Briefings to Professional or Personal Staff: 26
Other (breakfasts, etc.): 6
Total Engagements: over 70 to date

    Hearings and Questions for the Records: Separately (and not counted 
in the above totals), the Marine Corps' Force Design 2030 concept was 
addressed on the record (either during testimony or questions for the 
record) in over 41 hearings from March 2020 until February 2023 and 
responding to Questions for the Record from all defense committees.
    Force Design 2030, initiated in 2019, represents a transformative 
effort aimed at ensuring the Marine Corps remains prepared for the 
challenges of the future. As the Force Design 2030 continues to be 
implemented, the Service remains committed to maintaining open lines of 
communication with Congress and upholding the principles of 
transparency and accountability, thus strengthening the Marine Corps 
and the Nation's defense capabilities for the future.

    142. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Goldwater-Nichols 
Department of Defense Reorganization Act of 1986 provides Service 
Chiefs the responsibility to man, train, and equip personnel for the 
unified commands. Did you consult with any combatant commander prior to 
embarking on Force Design 2030 in 2019 or during initial Force Design 
efforts in 2020?
    General Berger. Yes.
    As the Commandant of the Marine Corps, per Title X, I, along with 
my fellow Service Chiefs, am responsible for the development of 
requirements for the equipping of my respective Service's forces. 
Additionally, as the Marine Corps falls within the purview of the 
Department of the Navy, I am subject to the authority, direction, and 
control of the Secretary of the Navy (SECNAV). It is my responsibility 
to transmit the plans and recommendations of my Headquarters to the 
SECNAV. Should the Secretary approve those plans and recommendations, I 
am then required to act as the agent of the Secretary in carrying out 
those plans and recommendations.
    Force Design 2030 was a process of modernization, designed to 
refocus the Marine Corps on the pacing threat as identified in the 2018 
National Defense Strategy (NDS), which was then reiterated in the 2022 
NDS. Based on the Intelligence Communities assessment of adversaries' 
capabilities, the Marine Corps evaluated what was needed to support the 
fleet and Joint Force in accordance with the service's Title X 
requirements. In consultation with Navy partners, specifically the 7th 
Fleet Commander and his staff, it was determined that the Navy needed 
the Marine Corps to support and conduct sea denial in and around 
maritime choke points. This initial input was a critical driver in our 
early modernization efforts as the Marine Corps had nothing in its 
inventory to provide that capability to the Navy. By the end of this 
year, it will. III Marine Expeditionary Force, which is assigned to the 
Commander for U.S. Indo-Pacific Command, will be capable of conducting 
sea denial with the Navy Marine Corps Expeditionary Ship Interdiction 
System, or NMESIS. This new capability will be complimentary to other 
services capabilities such as the Army's Precision Strike Missile and 
will directly impact the needs of the Navy and by extension, Combatant 
Commanders.
    While the 2018 and 2022 National Defense Strategies clearly State 
the case for change by identifying the Indo-Pacific as the priority 
theater, from a competition and threat perspective, the Marine Corps 
has implemented threat-driven and concept-based changes that will 
support more than one Fleet or Combatant Commander. The Marine Corps' 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO) and Stand-in Forces (SIF) 
concepts are aligned to both NDSs and are theater agnostic. The plan 
for light, lethal, and distributed forces is applicable in any 
Combatant Command, such as U.S. European Command (EUCOM) or U.S. 
Central Command--and have shown to be successful. For example, Task 
Force 61/2 (TF 61/2) executed a proof of concept in 2022 in which they 
provided the 6th Fleet Headquarters with real-time Maritime Domain 
Awareness (MDA). In that effort, marine forces tested, refined, and 
validated concepts of employment for MDA and for closing kill webs, 
while also conducting real-world, time sensitive reconnaissance-counter 
reconnaissance missions. These efforts continue to support 6th Fleet 
operations, which directly support EUCOM and United States Africa 
Command priorities. Since those proofs of concept in 2022, TF 61/2 has 
become a standing force within the U.S 6th Fleet, sourced by a marine 
rotational force.

    143. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, if you did consult with 
combatant commanders, can you provide details about which combatant 
commanders and when you consulted with them?
    General Berger. As the Commandant of the Marine Corps, per title X, 
I, along with my fellow Service Chiefs, am responsible for the 
development of requirements for the manning, training, and equipping of 
my respective Service's forces. Additionally, as the Marine Corps falls 
within the purview of the Department of the Navy, I am subject to the 
authority, direction, and control of the Secretary of the Navy 
(SECNAV). It is my responsibility to transmit the plans and 
recommendations of my Headquarters to the SECNAV. Should the Secretary 
approve those plans and recommendations, I am then required to act as 
the agent of the Secretary in carrying out those plans and 
recommendations.
    Conversely, Combatant Commanders' responsibilities include 
producing the plans for the employment of their assigned forces. Those 
plans are then carried out, as appropriate to accomplish the Combatant 
Command's assigned missions.
    During the U.S. European Command's (EUCOM) posture hearing on 30 
March 2022, General Wolters was asked how new concepts such as 
Expeditionary Advanced Based Operations (EABO) and Stand-In Forces 
(SIF), along with the advanced sensing capabilities that marines from 
Task Force 61/2 operate with, enhanced his options as a Combatant 
Commander.

        ``They dramatically enhance our options, Congressman. and as 
        you know, we have exercise Cold Response ongoing as we speak, 
        and the Commandant just paid a good visit. What we're seeing is 
        doing exactly just what you alluded to, a brown water force 
        that can shoot, move, and communicate and is very, very 
        expeditionary is priceless for 21st century security. All of 
        that is ongoing in all domains . . . And you can't succeed if 
        you just occupy one domain and attempt to achieve effects in 
        one domain. So, the marines are doing a fantastic job of 
        leading from the front and showing the rest of us how to do it 
        right, especially in the brown water environment.''

    Later, on 18 April 2023, Admiral John C. Aquilino, Commander, U.S. 
Indo Pacific Command provided the following response when asked about 
the Marine Littoral Regiment in his theatre of operations.

        `` . . . General Berger who came out of MARFORPAC, as you know, 
        I think was pretty understanding of the threat, the scenario, 
        and what was needed. So, I appreciate his effort to focus on 
        the Indo Pacific problem set. That said, we need to deliver 
        that organization with the capabilities to deliver effects to 
        surface-to-air, surface-to-surface, and surface-to-ship. When 
        that force is armed and prepared with that set of capability, 
        it's exactly what we need in the Indo-Pacific to support the 
        fight.''

    The Marine Corps' Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO) and 
Stand-in Forces (SIF) concepts meet the 2022 National Defense Strategy 
(NDS) intent and are theater agnostic. The plan for light, lethal, and 
distributed forces would be successful in other Combatant Commands 
(COCOMs), such as European Command (EUCOM) or Central Command 
(CENTCOM)--and have shown to be successful. For example, Task Force 61/
2 executed a proof of concept during 2022 in which they provided 6th 
Fleet Headquarters with real-time Maritime Domain Awareness (MDA). In 
that effort, marine forces tested, refined, and validated concepts of 
employment for MDA and closing kill webs, while also conducting real-
world, time sensitive reconnaissance-counter reconnaissance missions. 
These efforts continue to support 6th Fleet operations as nested within 
EUCOM and Africa Command (AFRICOM) priorities and have sense turned 
into a rotational force.

    144. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, you and Lieutenant General 
Heckl have testified that the Marine Corps is fully capable of meeting 
all global commitments. Were Force Design 2030 related divestments 
coordinated with the Commander, United States Forces--Korea before they 
were implemented? Please provide the documentation in support of your 
answers.
    General Berger. No, but Combatant Commanders were given advanced 
copies of Force Design documents for comment.
    As the Commandant of the Marine Corps, per Title X, I, along with 
my fellow Service Chiefs, am responsible for the development of 
requirements for the manning, training, and equipping of my respective 
Service's forces. Additionally, as the Marine Corps falls within the 
purview of the Department of the Navy, I am subject to the authority, 
direction, and control of the Secretary of the Navy (SECNAV). It is my 
responsibility to transmit the plans and recommendations of my 
Headquarters to the SECNAV. Should the Secretary approve those plans 
and recommendations, I am then required to act as the agent of the 
Secretary in carrying out those plans and recommendations.
    The Marine Corps overall Indo-Pacific posture is nested within the 
INDOPACOM Theater Posture Plan. Our stand-in forces within the first 
island chain offer advanced capabilities and serve as integrated 
deterrent forces in support of Joint, Interagency, and multinational 
missions. When not in direct conflict, these forces continuously strive 
for interoperability with foreign security forces and improve civilian-
military relations with partners while serving as a deterrent force 
against potential adversaries.
                    marine corps as a stand in force
    145. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, it will be many years before 
the Marine Corps has sufficient missiles to engage in a prolonged fight 
with the PLA. How will Stand-in Forces operate after they have 
exhausted their missile inventories?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps' forward presence within a 
potential adversary's weapons engagement zone enables the service to 
emplace an integrated and redundant network of expeditionary sensors at 
key maritime chokepoints to provide situational awareness, targeting 
data, and Command & Control (C2) for naval, joint, and coalition 
forces. The employment of kinetic fires is a secondary role of the 
Stand-in Force (SIF). By combining Marine Corps sensors with joint 
kinetic and non-kinetic fires and effects, stand-in forces can hold key 
adversary assets at risk and disrupt adversary decisionmaking, thereby 
enabling the rapid deployment of naval, joint, and coalition forces in 
theater while providing additional options for commanders and senior 
leaders. Additionally, by holding adversary assets at risk, the Stand 
in Force is able to provide commander and national leaders with off-
ramps from conflict, ideally, preventing the escalation of competition 
to crisis and beyond.
    The SIF will also enable strategic messaging to our allies and 
partners, as well as the adversary, that our actions are defensive in 
nature, demonstrate resolve, and would be costly to effectively 
counter. The Stand-in Force integrates with coalition forces and 
stiffens the resolve of allies and partners while influencing adversary 
risk calculations. SIF daily interactions and operations with the 
nations and communities of our allies and partners strengthen U.S. 
alliance networks while simultaneously allowing opportunities for de-
escalation should competition escalate above the threshold of violence.
    While magazine depth of various elements within the SIF will vary 
depending on element size, location, and mission, the SIF will also be 
able to sustain itself inside the adversary's weapons engagement zone 
with missile and other aerial defense capabilities. To counter these, 
the Marine Corps has invested in the Marine Air Defense Integrated 
System (MADIS) to counter drones and aircraft. The Marine Corps is also 
developing Medium-Range Intercept Capability (MRIC) to defend forward-
deployed forces against cruise missiles. Our premier joint-capable 
aviation command and control platform is the Common Aviation Command 
and Control System (CAC2S). CAC2S possesses the tactical data links and 
communication paths needed to quickly alert the Joint force when any 
data on a hypersonic launch is classified by our sensor network. These 
capabilities provide the Joint force with the ability to detect and see 
the hypersonic threats within the fleet and Joint force commanders' 
theater.

    146. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, why is the Marine Corps 
redesigning and restructuring itself to conduct sea denial operations 
that can already be performed by other Services, for example, Navy 
attack submarines, Air Force long-range missiles, and Army Multi-Domain 
Task Forces (MDTFs)?
    General Berger. Part of the Marine Corps' Title X responsibilities 
are to ``provide fleet marine forces of combined arms, together with 
supporting air components, for service with the fleet in the seizure or 
defense of advanced naval bases and for the conduct of such land 
operations as may be essential to the prosecution of a naval 
campaign.'' It is inherent in the Marine Corps' Title X 
responsibilities to provide an expeditionary force in readiness that 
can provide combat credible forces that can operate across the conflict 
continuum in support of naval campaigns. Force Design has enhanced the 
Marine Corps' ability to support naval campaigns and fleet commanders 
by equipping formations with the necessary capabilities to enable sea 
control and denial operations as required to seize or defend advanced 
naval bases.
    Furthermore, the Force Design process is not seeking to restructure 
the Marine Corps to be solely responsible for sea denial and control 
operations. These capabilities will be inherent in our Marine Littoral 
Regiments (MLRs) and other elements of the Stand-in Force, and are 
complementary to other Service's capabilities, within the joint 
warfighting construct. Moreover, the Marine Corps' sea-denial 
capabilities are not redundant to joint and coalition force 
capabilities but are a complimentary collection of combined arms 
capability options for Combatant Commanders. Marine Corps Doctrine 
Publication 1 defines combined arms as the ``synchronized and 
simultaneous application of different arms and elements of combat power 
to achieve an effect greater than if each element were used separately 
or sequentially.''
    One of the Marine Corps' capstone research and development projects 
in Force Design is the family of integrated targeting cells. The effort 
accelerates the evolution of combined arms multi-domain formations by 
fusing operations, intelligence, and fires functions (i.e., Combined 
Arms) together in a single center, creating the means for marine units 
to participate in and control joint fires, while also gaining and 
maintaining persistent custody of adversary targets. The Marine Corps 
today now has the ability to fight and contest in all five warfighting 
domains to include space and cyber. The integration of advanced 
technological capabilities has increased the lethality of the Marine 
Air Ground Task Force (MAGTF) to deter, but also contend against our 
adversaries in these domains with combat credible formations and 
capabilities that can provide precision fires at range. Additionally, 
Force Design investments have prioritized sensing and communication 
capabilities that enable forward postured formations to detect and 
track adversaries' and provide the Joint Force with the necessary 
target data to project combat power into an Anti-Access/Area Denial 
environment. While these efforts will enable maneuver of units, more 
importantly they will enable the maneuver of Joint Force and naval 
units in and around the maritime domain.
    Last, while the MLR is a tailored MAGTF, specifically designed to 
support operations across the conflict continuum, it is not a Marine 
Infantry Regiment. The MLR and Marine Infantry Regiment differ based on 
the unique mission, task organization, and the equipment of each 
organization. The MLR is a key Force Design output with global 
applicability, although based in the Indo-Pacific. Alternatively, the 
Marine Infantry Regiment exists within all three Marine Divisions and 
remains tailorable and scalable to support operations across the 
conflict continuum, globally.
    Marine Corps Aviation under Force Design 2030

    147. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps has stated 
that the key to sustaining Stand-in Forces is the Landing Ship Medium 
augmented by aviation support, buying from local inhabitants, and 
``foraging'' for food. The decision to divest critical logistics 
capabilities was made several years ago, but testimony by marine 
leaders has also admitted that the logistics support concept has not 
been solved. If marines are deployed today under the SIF concept, how 
would they be sustained with all classes of supply, medical/casualty 
evacuation, and required maintenance capabilities?
    General Berger. As stated in our recently released I&L 2030 we 
clearly recognize that ``the Marine Corps Installations and Logistics 
Enterprise is not yet organized, trained, or equipped to sustain 
expeditionary forces across all domains as envisioned by A Concept for 
Stand-In Forces (SIF), Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment, 
and Expeditionary Advance Base Operations, nor in traditional crisis 
response scenarios. Year after year, exercises, wargames, and 
experiments have demonstrated and validated this assessment.'' Stand-in 
Forces today are currently operating in this environment and are 
relying on a mix of legacy and new capabilities.
    Primary classes of supply such as class I/III are established 
through pre-existing procurement methods with the Defense Logistics 
Agency (DLA). Class V supportability is related to registered 
operational plans in support of Combatant Commander requirements. 
Initial ground sustainment for Class V is coordinated and distributed 
from forward prepositioned stocks. Medical support for SIF is sustained 
through on scene organic capabilities within battalion aid stations for 
Class VIII requirements. The level of care that is required organically 
depends on the size, capabilities, and mission of the unit supporting 
the SIF. The Marine Corps is not resourced or authorized to provide all 
required medical services, such as theater hospitalization and 
aeromedical evacuation out of theater and must rely on Joint Force 
support. Required maintenance support for the SIF is currently being 
sustained through standard DLA coordination and routine sustainment 
methods. For larger maintenance requirements or exercises with allies 
and partners, one of our various Maritime Preposition Squadrons 
(MPSRONs) could be employed to support the SIF with the necessary 
capabilities. Smaller maintenance requirements can be supported through 
a variety of methods. For example, the Marine Corps' aviation 
capabilities routinely conduct Passengers, Mail, and Cargo (PMC) 
requirements from both ashore and afloat platforms to transport the 
necessary support.
    However, the Marine Corps understands that enabling flexible and 
responsive sustainment in a contested environment requires a broad mix 
of ashore and afloat platforms and an integrated logistics network to 
support the SIF. This is the reason we are pursuing modernization 
across our entire logistics enterprise. We intend to transition our 
logistics from a capability optimized for supporting sustained 
operations ashore to a maritime capability capable of supporting 
operations in austere, expeditionary, and littoral environments that 
are contested across all domains. The centerpiece of this concept of 
support is the development of an integrated ashore and afloat 
sustainment network that can support marine forces globally. This 
network would be capable of generating multiple logistics webs that 
provide options to commanders, creates resiliency, contributes to 
deterrence, and overcomes the precision lethality of the modern 
battlefield. To do this, this network would seek to integrate naval, 
joint, Allied and Partner capability based on the operational 
requirement.
    From a resourcing perspective, this network requires four critical 
capabilities: multi-capable distribution platforms, increased and 
diversified forward positioning of sustainment, installations that are 
prepared for operations in a contested environment, and improved 
logistics command and control. As noted previously and as seen in the 
activation of the new Marine Aerial Refueler/Transport Squadron in 
Hawaii, the Marine Corps is working to establish multi-capable 
distribution platforms to enable our modernized logistics efforts. As 
for increasing and diversifying the forward positioning of 
sustainment--we will achieve this through the Global Positioning 
Network (GPN) which consists of a dynamic, integrated, afloat and 
ashore networks, to support the Stand-in-Force and global crisis 
response. The Marine Corps will make our installations ready for the 
contested environment by transforming our Indo-Pacific installations 
into advanced bases capable of serving as vital nodes in the logistics 
network, while our CONUS-based installations are made more efficient, 
resilient, and capable. Last, the Marine Corps will enhance its 
logistics command and control to enable better logistics 
decisionmaking. For additional details, I offer two key sources of 
information to further inform your team. First, is DC, CD&I's recently 
released Contested Logistics video at: https://www.youtube.com/ 
watch'v=478rCQCzuoUn. The recently relesed Installations and Logistics 
2023 is enclosure 3. [The enclosure has been retained in Committee 
files.]
             marine corps aviation under force design 2030
    148. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, several weeks ago LtGen 
Heckl affirmed that the Marine Corps was not diminishing a single 
aviation POR. That just means that the Marine Corps is going to buy the 
amount of aircraft it planned on buying. There is a delta between the 
number of aircraft the Marine Corps will require in each POR and the 
number of operational aircraft in the total force based on the number 
of squadrons and the number of aircraft per squadron. Can you provide a 
detailed accounting of this delta, including any aircraft that will be 
in storage, inventory management, available for Foreign Military Sales, 
or otherwise divested from the Marine Corps inventory?
    General Berger. As a result of Force Design 2030, no aviation 
programs of record were reduced. Marine Aviation capabilities have 
expanded since Force Design 2030 efforts began in 2019. Today, Marine 
Aviation consists of fifth generation F-35s, tiltrotor MV-22s, the only 
marinized heavy lift helicopter in the U.S. arsenal--the CH-53K, H-1s 
that have been upgraded in lethality and survivability, the venerable 
C-130J, new MQ-9As, the Ground/Air Task Oriented Radar (G/ATOR) and the 
Marine Air Defense Integrated System (MADIS). Across all platforms, 
modernization efforts have integrated readiness initiatives, 
incorporated advanced technologies, and ensured the capabilities 
procured meet or exceed those of their preceding platform. Force Design 
2030 has expanded, optimized, and enhanced Marine Aviation's ability to 
continue to deliver more lethal, effective, and survivable capabilities 
to enable naval and joint campaigning in all domains across the 
continuum of conflict.
    Force Design 2030 brings significant additional capabilities to the 
Aviation Combat Element. Force Design 2030 efforts have expanded Marine 
Aviation with modernized capabilities, increased readiness, and 
enhanced lethality across all platforms to meet the demands of global 
force management, rapidly changing technology, and the ever-changing 
operating environment. Historically, the number of squadrons 
(organizational construct) and aircraft (composition) within aviation 
units has always evolved inside the Program of Records (POR) to ensure 
the Marine Corps remains the Nation's crisis response force while 
modernizing and optimizing the fleet to meet the challenges of the 
future operating environment.
    The Marine Corps POR for F35 is 420; the POR for CH-53K is 200; the 
POR for MV-22 is 360 (final procurement in fiscal year 2023); the POR 
for H-1s is 389 (procurement completed in fiscal year 2019).

      F-35: The Marine Corps is procuring 353 F-35B and 67 F-
35C, a total of 420 aircraft at the rate of roughly 20 aircraft per 
year. Force Design 2030 modernization directing an organizational 
construct change to 18 squadrons of 10 F-35 aircraft allows the Marine 
Corps to deploy 10 F-35Bs aboard our MEUs compared to the traditional 
six AV-8B TACAIR contingent. After completing the F-35 transition, 18 
Active component operational squadrons will enable Marine Corps TACAIR 
to meet steady-State Global Force Management requirements.

      CH-53K: The CH-53K POR has remained at 200. A CH-53 
squadron is designed to be task organized and is manned, trained and 
equipped in the following manner: 16-aircraft squadron (1.0) Primary 
Mission Aircraft Authorization (PMAA), 12-aircraft temp squadron (.75) 
Primary Mission Aircraft Inventory (PMAI), 8-aircraft squadron minus 
(.5), 4-aircraft detachment (.25). In accordance with Force Design 
2030, the heavy lift community will support the Marine Corps with 5.25 
Active squadrons x 16 CH-53, 1 Reserve squadron x 16 CH-53, 1 fleet 
replacement squadron x 17 CH-53.

      MV-22: The Marine Corps is procuring 360 MV-22Bs in the 
following squadron bed-down: 14 Active squadrons x 12 MV-22B, 2 Reserve 
squadrons x 12 MV-22B, 1 fleet replacement squadron x 27 MV-22B. The 
Marine Corps is complete with the medium lift transition. Force Design 
2030 has reduced the total squadron end strength from 18 squadrons to 
14 squadrons. Force Design 2030 modernization from a 12 to 10-aircraft 
squadron enables the Marine Corps to extend the service life of this 
unmatched capability from the mid-2030's to the early 2050's.

      H-1: The H-1 POR is 349. Force Design 2030 directed the 
deactivation of two HMLA squadrons. By the end of fiscal year 2024, 
Active component squadrons will be reduced from 7 to 5. Force Design 
2030 modernization increases the H-1s readiness and provides 
flexibility for our operational commanders for decades to come The 
Total Active Inventory required will be 284 H-1 aircraft. Four west 
coast squadrons will support global force commitments and MEU 
detachments operations for the 11th, 13th, 15th, and 31st MEU (Okinawa) 
as well as the Unit Deployment Program (Okinawa) while one east coast 
squadron will support the 22d, 24th, and 26th MEU.

    Current Force Primary Aircraft Authorization:

        7 AC HMLA Squadrons 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

        1 RC HMLA Squadron 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

        1 RC HMLA Squadron (-) 10 AH-1Z, 8 UH-1Y

        1 Fleet Replacement Squadron 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

    Future Force Primary Aircraft Authorization (Fy25):

        5 AC HMLA Squadrons 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

        1 RC HMLA Squadron 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

        1 RC HMLA Squadron (-) 10 AH-1Z, 8 UH-1Y

        1 Fleet Replacement Squadron 15 AH-1Z, 12 UH-1Y

    149. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in responses to Requests for 
Information from my office, the Marine Corps indicated that varying 
numbers of aircraft in the Marine Corps inventory would go into storage 
or inventory management extend the service life of MV-22s, AH-1Zs, UH-
1Ys, CH-53Ks, and F-35s. In fact, according to the information the 
Marine Corps provided me, a significant amount of aircraft--as many as 
60 MV-22s, 30 AH-1Zs, 24 UH-1Ys, 48 CH-53Ks, and 54 F-35Bs will go into 
storage, or inventory management as the Marine Corps calls it, by 2030. 
When I read you these numbers at a closed session following the April 
18, 2023 hearing, you said they were not accurate even though they had 
been provided to my office by the Marine Corps. What are the accurate 
numbers of aircraft the Marine Corps is putting into storage or 
inventory management?
    General Berger. Before discussing inventory management, it is 
important to understand all elements that comprise the Program of 
Record (POR). When the Service determines a POR, three primary 
categories are calculated to ensure the Service procures the exact 
number of aircraft needed to support the operational forces over the 
aircraft's lifetime. The three primary categories are:

      Primary Aircraft Inventory (PAI). PAI ensures 
operational, training, testing, and reserve squadrons maintain their 
full complement of aircraft (defined as Primary Aircraft Authorization 
(PAA)) on a day-to-day basis.

      Backup Aircraft Inventory (BAI). BAI are backup aircraft 
that ensure when operational, training, testing, and reserve squadrons 
aircraft undergo long-term planned maintenance or modification 
pipelines; there is no degradation in readiness on our flightlines 
(defined as Backup Aircraft Authorization (BAA)).

      Attrition Reserve (ATT). ATT aircraft ensure that if an 
operational, training, testing, or reserve squadron loses an aircraft 
due to a mishap or damage, we can immediately replace it to ensure 
there is no degradation in readiness of the Marine Corps' ability to 
respond to crises.

    Aircraft inventory management for the Marine Corps is defined by 
SECNAVINST 5442.3, which provides the framework for how the Service 
determines the appropriate quantities of BAI and ATT aircraft. Each 
airframe type uses different percentages based on historical data to 
calculate BAI and ATT. The Marine Corps, like every other Service, 
manages aircraft inventory through a variety of means; we place BAI and 
ATT aircraft in our Fleet Replacement Squadrons (FRS), into storage at 
the Aerospace Maintenance Aircraft Regeneration Group (AMARG), or into 
preservation on the flight line, depots, or contracted facilities. For 
the purposes of answering this question, we will cover storage and 
preservation.

    Storage:

    Aircraft storage occurs primarily at the 309th AMARG and at the 
Depots. In 1964, the Secretary of Defense designated AMARG as the sole 
storage, reclamation, and disposal manager for the DOD. Naval aircraft 
stored at 309th AMARG fall under six sections, and Sections 1-3 bear 
review in further detail.

      Section 1--War Reserve and Force Level Assurance Storage. 
Aircraft designated for retention in Section 1 shall not have any 
components removed from them without HQMC/OPNAV approval. Aircraft in 
section 1 are not stricken from the inventory and are counted in TII. 
The Marine Corps has the following aircraft in Section 1.

      Section 2--CNO Special Program Storage. Stricken aircraft 
held in storage as a hedge against future force structure and 
procurement uncertainties. Aircraft designated for retention in this 
section may be re-preserved every 4 years as determined by the strike 
board. The Marine Corps has the following aircraft in Section 2.

      Section 3--FMS. Stricken aircraft are on hold for FMS and 
SAP are CNO inviolate. Marine Corps aircraft in Section 3 are:

      Section 4--Museum. Stricken aircraft identified for 
donation to service museums. The ``maintain-in'' storage fees for these 
aircraft are borne by the museums.

      Section 5--Reclamation and Disposition. Stricken aircraft 
awaiting final reclamation and disposition.

      Section 6--Identified for Disposal. Stricken aircraft, 
fully reclaimed, and being prepared for final disposal.

    Preservation:

    There are four levels of preservation in inventory management.

      Level I. Conducted at the organizational level of 
maintenance. Aircraft may be maintained in Level I preservation for a 
maximum of 90 days.

      Level II. Conducted at the depot level of maintenance. 
Level II is similar to Level I. Level II preservation provides minimum 
protection for up to 1 year.

      Level III. Conducted at the depot level of maintenance 
requiring dehumidification. Level III preservation provides optimum 
protection for an indefinite period of time.

      Level IV. Level IV preservation is used as an umbrella 
term to designate the partial preservation of aircraft undergoing 
depot-level maintenance actions. The aircraft systems and components 
are preserved to the maximum extent possible; however, systems and 
components may be in various levels (Level I, II, or III) of 
preservation.

    MV-22, H-1, CH-53K, and F-35 preservation numbers, along with a 
review of those same platforms in storage, as follows:
    MV-22: POR is 360 aircraft. There are no MV-22Bs entering inactive 
inventory. The Inventory Management program is designed to provide 
aircraft capability modernization, manage the lifecycle and airframe 
flight hours, and ensure enough aircraft with the required capability 
are available to always satisfy Primary Aircraft Inventory (PAI) 
requirements. The aircraft in the Inventory Management program is 
contracted to be reconstituted within 30 days of notification, 
providing a rapid response capability to adjust to changing fleet 
needs. Beginning in fiscal year 2025, the MV-22 Inventory Management 
program will be resourced for the induction and maintenance activity 
requirements of 48 planned aircraft. The anticipated annual cost for 
the program is approximately $600,000 per aircraft.
    H-1: POR is 349 (189 AH-1, 160 UH-1) aircraft. There are 37 
aircraft that have been transferred to inactive inventory, including 19 
aircraft for future uncertainty (section 2), eight aircraft for Foreign 
Military Sales (FMS) and Security Assistance Program (SAP), and ten 
stricken aircraft awaiting final reclamation and disposition. Section 2 
storage is planned to increase from 19 aircraft to a total of 32 
aircraft, which would result in a total of 50 aircraft in storage. The 
cost to store the H-1 aircraft is less than $125,000 per aircraft every 
4 years. There are no reoccurring costs until the aircraft is removed 
from inactive inventory.
    CH-53K: POR is 200 aircraft. During the transition from CH-53E to 
CH-53K between now and 2030, there are no plans to place any CH-53Ks 
into preservation and storage.
    F-35: POR is 420 aircraft. The Marine Corps F-35 POR has been 
steady at 420 aircraft for more than two decades. How many and where we 
place our BAI and ATT F-35 aircraft is yet to be determined since we 
have not finished buying out the POR. Until then, thoughtful inventory 
management is the key to Marine Corps TACAIR readiness and capability.
    In sum, the Marine Corps is not ``divesting'' of any aircraft. The 
Marine Corps has historically made changes in organizational construct 
and composition to meet mandates. Without appropriate inventory 
management and a backup inventory, our operational squadrons would 
consistently operate with fewer ready aircraft for training and 
tasking.

    150. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps is 
reportedly buying new aircraft and putting them directly in storage. Is 
it a good use of tax payer dollars for the Marine Corps to have a plan 
to purchase dozens of aircraft that it has no intention of using and 
will immediately put into storage?
    General Berger. Yes. The Marine Corps has historically made changes 
in organizational construct and composition to meet mandates. As the 
Marine Corps executes its Force Design efforts, the Marine Corps 
continually evaluates and rebalances squadrons. While there is a cost 
associated with inventory management, the long-term benefits of 
inventory management outweigh the costs and it enables the service to 
provide flexibility to commanders, increase readiness, and extend the 
service life of airframes well into the future.
    H-1: There are 37 aircraft that have been transferred to inactive 
inventory, including 19 aircraft for future uncertainty (section 2), 
eight aircraft for Foreign Miliary Sales (FMS) and Security Assistance 
Program (SAP), and ten stricken aircraft awaiting final reclamation and 
disposition. Section 2 storage is planned to increase from 19 aircraft 
to a total of 32 aircraft, which would result in a total of 50 aircraft 
in storage. The cost to store the H-1 aircraft is less than $125,000 
per aircraft every 4 years. There are no reoccurring costs until the 
aircraft is removed from inactive inventory.
    MV-22: There are no MV-22Bs entering inactive inventory. The 
Inventory Management program is designed to provide aircraft capability 
modernization, manage the lifecycle and airframe flight hours, and 
ensure enough aircraft with the required capability are available to 
always satisfy Primary Aircraft Inventory (PAI) requirements. Further, 
the aircraft in the Inventory Management program is contracted to be 
reconstituted within 30 days of notification, providing a rapid 
response capability to adjust to changing fleet needs. Beginning in 
fiscal year 2025, the MV-22 Inventory Management program will be 
resourced for the induction and maintenance activity requirements of 48 
planned aircraft. The anticipated annual cost for the program is 
approximately $600,000 per aircraft.
    CH-53K: POR is 200 aircraft. During the transition from CH-53E to 
CH-53K between now and 2030, there are no plans to place any CH-53Ks 
into preservation and storage.
    F-35: POR is 420 aircraft. The Marine Corps F-35 POR has been 
steady at 420 aircraft for more than two decades. How many and where we 
place our BAI and ATT F-35 aircraft is yet to be determined since we 
have not finished buying out the POR. Until then, thoughtful inventory 
management is the key to Marine Corps TACAIR readiness and capability.

    151. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in responses provided to my 
office by the Marine Corps following an April 14, 2023 brief on Section 
1023 of the fiscal year 2023 NDAA, the Marine Corps reported that 50 
aircraft will be transferred into the inactive inventory, along with an 
unknown number of MV-22s. What is the cost associated with the 
procurement and storage of these aircraft?
    General Berger.
    H-1: There are 37 aircraft that have been transferred to inactive 
inventory, including 19 aircraft for future uncertainty (section 2), 
eight aircraft for Foreign Miliary Sales (FMS) and Security Assistance 
Program (SAP), and ten stricken aircraft awaiting final reclamation and 
disposition. Section 2 storage is planned to increase from 19 aircraft 
to a total of 32 aircraft, which would result in a total of 50 aircraft 
in storage. The cost to store the H-1 aircraft is less than $125,000 
per aircraft every 4 years. There are no reoccurring costs until the 
aircraft is removed from inactive inventory.
    MV-22: There are no MV-22Bs entering inactive inventory. The 
Inventory Management program is designed to provide aircraft capability 
modernization, manage the lifecycle and airframe flight hours, and 
ensure enough aircraft with the required capability are available to 
always satisfy Primary Aircraft Inventory (PAI) requirements. Further, 
the aircraft in the Inventory Management program is contracted to be 
reconstituted within 30 days of notification, providing a rapid 
response capability to adjust to changing fleet needs. Beginning in 
fiscal year 2025, the MV-22 Inventory Management program will be 
resourced for the induction and maintenance activity requirements of 48 
planned aircraft. The anticipated annual cost for the program is 
approximately $600,000 per aircraft.
    In sum, the Marine Corps has historically made changes in 
organizational construct and composition to meet mandates. As the 
Marine Corps executes its Force Design efforts, the Marine Corps 
continually evaluates and rebalances squadrons. While there is a cost 
associated with inventory management, the long-term benefits of 
inventory management outweigh the costs and it enables the service to 
provide flexibility to commanders, increase readiness, and extend the 
service life of airframes well into the future.

    152. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, can you provide any after 
action reports, war game analysis, or other evaluation or assessment 
mechanism that informed assault support requirements for infantry units 
under the Force Design 2030 force structure?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps assault support requirements are 
based on current and forecasted Global Force Management tasking to 
include, Marine Expeditionary Units (MEU), maintaining a Crisis 
Response Force, sustained service level training exercises, Marine Air 
Ground Task Force training, and Weapons and Tactics Instructor support, 
at a minimum. As the Marine Corps continues to assess the future 
operating environment, further adjustments, in line with our campaign 
of learning may be necessary, as seen in the modification of the size 
of our MV-22 Osprey squadrons. Based on a series of analysis, looking 
at airframe lifecycles, and training and operational requirements, it 
was determined that the Marine Corps' 14 MV-22 squadrons, each 
consisting of 12 aircraft be modified to 16 squadrons, each with 10 
aircraft.
    The addition of two MV-22 squadrons allows the Marine Corps to 
maintain its desired deployment-to-dwell ratio for pilots and crew, 
while simultaneously optimizing a given squadron's Primary Aircraft 
Authorization for deployment as the MEU Air Combat Element, supporting 
increased 5th generation tactical aircraft (TACAIR) operations. We will 
continue to assess our assault support posture to determine the most 
effective construct to deliver capability and capacity through 
wargames, service level exercises, and other analytical initiatives.
    While the Force Design process has laid the foundation for a 
modernized roadmap for Marine Aviation, it also sets Marine Aviation on 
the path to look to the future. For example, Marine Aviation is teaming 
with U.S. Navy to develop the Marine Air Ground Task Force Unmanned 
Expeditionary Family of Systems (FoS). These efforts include 
acceleration of prototyping and experimentation of TACAIR Collaborative 
Combat Aircraft and building a common interoperable system control 
architecture for control of Joint assets. In parallel, Marine Aviation 
is also exploring the Vertical Takeoff and Landing Family of Systems 
(VTOL FoS), where the Logistics Connector is the first major effort to 
support the execution of the Stand-in Force (SiF) through airborne 
logistics in a contested environment. This portfolio also includes but 
is not limited to Air Loitering Munitions, an Attack/strike capability, 
and a future Assault support capability to replace our extant 
platforms.

    153. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, can you provide any after 
action reports, war game analysis, or other evaluation or assessment 
mechanism that informed close air support requirements for infantry 
units under the Force Design 2030 force structure?
    General Berger. Force Design efforts have modernized Marine 
Aviation capabilities, increased readiness, and enhanced lethality 
across all platforms to meet current and future demands of global force 
management (GFM) requirements in support the Joint Force and Commandant 
Commanders (COCOM), rapidly changing technology, and the ever-changing 
operating environment. One of the many mission essential tasks that 
Marine Aviation preforms is offensive air support. As part of force 
modernization, Marine Aviation conducts significant integrated analysis 
of both weapon systems and aircraft employment techniques to ensure 
Marine Aviation meets sortie requirements with appropriate munitions 
for the best weapon-to-target match.
    This analysis is captured in virtual, simulated, and live wargames 
and exercises throughout Headquarters Marine Corps as well as the 
operational fleet not only to inform and develop capabilities, but to 
capture and refine tactics, techniques, and procedures for current and 
emerging weapon systems. As the Marine Corps continues to assess the 
operating environment, further adjustments in line with our campaign of 
learning will occur to gain and maintain the edge in lethality, 
readiness, while simultaneously optimizing our F-35 and H-1 fleet to 
support the Joint Force and Commandant Commanders (COCOM).
    As we have always done, we will continue to assess and evolve our 
organizational construct and composition through wargames, service 
level exercises, and analytical initiatives to ensure the Marine Corps 
continues to deliver lethal capability to support the Joint Force and 
COCOM demands now and into the future.
        marine air-ground task force (magtf) self-sustainability
    154. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the MAGTF enables marines to 
deliver rapid, powerful, and sustainable response on a global scale. 
Sea-to-shore, air-to-ground, door-to-door, there isn't an 
organizational model more capable of quickly putting marines where they 
need to be in order to fight and win for our country. From the MEU to 
the MEF, marines are capable of self-sustaining for 15-60 days, 
operating without ports, airfields, or civilian infrastructure. Force 
Design 2030 changes the equipment and personnel available to the MAGTF, 
particularly the ACE. Using specific references to types and numbers 
equipment and personnel, describe how the MAGTF's ability to sustain 
itself at the MEU, MEB, and MEF level differs between 2018 and 2023.
    General Berger. Between the years 2018 to 2023, the MAGTF's ability 
to sustain itself remains relatively unchanged and uninterrupted. MEUs/
MEBs/MEFs have deployed with largely unchanged manpower and equipment 
configurations.
    For future MAGTF self-sustainment, we will transition from a 
logistics capability optimized for supporting sustained operations 
ashore to a maritime based support concept to serve us in contested, 
all domain, austere, expeditionary, and littoral environments. The 
centerpiece of this concept of support is the development of an 
integrated ashore and afloat sustainment network that can support our 
marine forces globally. This network will generate multiple logistics 
webs that provide options to commanders, enable resiliency, contributes 
to deterrence, and overcomes the precision driven lethality of the 
modern battlefield. To do this, this network integrates naval, joint, 
Allied and Partner capabilities based on the operational requirement. 
From a resourcing perspective, this network requires four critical 
capabilities:

    1.  Multi-capable distribution platforms with enough capacity to 
meet mission requirements.

    2.  Increasing and diversifying the forward positioning of 
sustainment--we will achieve this through the Global Positioning 
Network (GPN) which consists of a dynamic, integrated, afloat and 
ashore network to support the Stand-in Force and global crisis 
response.

    3.  Prepare our installations for the contested environment.

    4.  Improve our logistics command and control to enable better 
logistics decisionmaking.

    The Marine Corps will create a leaner and more capable distribution 
element better equipped to support Force Design 2030 initiatives by 
combining Military Occupational Specialties, 3112 (Distribution) and 
3152 (Packaging), that increases the capability of the Marine Corp's 
Combat Logistics Battalions (CLB) through a four-person Distribution 
cell. The goal of these efforts are effective capacity management 
(monitoring and movement execution of cargo through all available nodes 
and modes), asset visibility (in-transit, nodal and non-nodal), and an 
enterprise-level view of distribution capabilities and functions that 
provide near real-time situational distribution awareness 
(transportation and movement). Distribution flexibility will drive 
overall sustainment improvement in the future.
    From a ground equipment perspective, changes that increased the 
sustainability of the MAGTF include the divesting of logistics 
intensive platforms such as Tanks and associated bridging. Subsequent 
introduction of modernized expeditionary platforms such as the 
ultralight tactical vehicles and Unmanned Logistics Systems--Air (ULS-
A) have diversified our distribution capability. All new platforms are 
intentionally designed to implement predictive maintenance capabilities 
reducing the sustainment burden on individual units. Additionally, the 
introduction of advanced manufacturing capabilities that allow units to 
create repair parts onsite, significantly reduces the reliance of 
legacy supply chains.
    FD modernization optimized Marine Aviation to operate from austere, 
distributed locations and across extended distances while providing 
cutting-edge advantages to the naval expeditionary force through the 
six functions of Marine Aviation which consists of Offensive Air 
Support, Anti-Air Warfare, Assault Support, Air Reconnaissance, 
Electronic Warfare, and Control of Aircraft and Missiles. Marine 
Aviation is manned, trained, and equipped to conduct the six functions 
and is integral to tomorrow's Marine Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF), 
bringing lethal, agile, and sustainable capabilities to compete with, 
deter, and--if necessary--defeat our Nation's adversaries.
    For the F-35, FD modernization directing an organizational 
construct change to 18 squadrons of 10 F35 aircraft allows the Marine 
Corps to deploy 10 F-35Bs aboard our MEUs compared to the traditional 
six AV-8B TACAIR contingent. This offers the Combatant Commanders 
(COCOMs) a 66 percent increase in TACAIR--5th Gen aircraft--forward 
deployed and globally engaged with our Marine Expeditionary Units 
(MEUs) time now. The transition to 5th Gen TACAIR provides the MAGTF, 
Joint Force Maritime Component Commander (JFMCC), and Joint Force 
enhanced situational awareness, greater freedom of maneuver, and 
flexible response options in what was previously considered a denied 
environment.
    The MV-22 has revolutionized military air transport not seen 
before. The revolutionary capability of the tiltrotor, with the 
optimized and fiscally responsible and sustainable organizational 
construct, enables the Marine Corps to generate unprecedented tempo 
across our operating environment, allowing commanders to seize and 
retain the initiative not found in traditional rotary platforms. For 
the MV-22, FD modernization from a 12 to 10-aircraft squadron enables 
the Marine Corps to extend the service life of this unmatched 
capability from the mid-2030's to the early 2050's.
    For the CH-53K, as the only marinized heavy-lift helicopter in the 
DOD in development or production, provides a greater payload capability 
for Assault Support than any current or emerging rotorcraft at sea 
level and high-altitude conditions at great ranges. Achieving Initial 
Operational Capability (IOC) in April 2022, the CH-53K was approved for 
Full Rate Production in December 2022 and plans to deploy for the first 
CH-53K MEU detachment in fiscal year 2025. The CH-53K provides critical 
expeditionary organic heavy-lift sustainment and mobility capability to 
the MAGTF, Joint Force, JFMCC, and COCOM.
    For the AH-1Z and UH-1Y, FD modernization increases the H-1s 
readiness and provides flexibility for our operational commanders for 
decades to come. Deploying in detachments as part of the MEU onboard 
amphibious shipping, H-1s provide a wide variety of capabilities and 
mission sets and the entire spectrum of conflict.
    Additionally, the post-FD force construct enables the activation of 
an additional KC-130J squadron in the Pacific, as well as the 
additional three squadrons of UAS. The KC-130J provides organic lift 
and tactical aerial-refueling capabilities to the Marine Corps. At the 
same time, MQ-9A supports the MAGTF by providing multi-sensor 
surveillance, maritime domain awareness, and enables the detection and 
engagement of targets during expeditionary, joint, and combined 
operations.
    Ultimately, enhancement of the Marine Corps sustainment capability 
and capacity for the future operating environment through Force Design 
initiatives, ensures the MAGTF retains its self-sustainment capability.
                             a niche force?
    155. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps divested 
significant components of its traditional combined-arms capability to 
develop capabilities specifically designed to counter China in the 
Indo-Pacific Command Area of Responsibility (INDOPACOM AOR). Does 
tailoring III MEF to fight China in the INDOPACOM AOR reduce the Marine 
Corps' ability to respond to contingencies around the globe? Provide 
specific examples in your response.
    General Berger. No, throughout the force design effort, all MEUs, 
without METL changes, have been prepared to deploy. When amphibious 
ships have been available, no MEU has missed a deployment timeline.
    From the outset of our current modernization efforts, I directed 
the Marine Corps to design and develop a force focused on our pacing 
threat. Our approach to modernization has been deliberately iterative 
as to remain flexible to changes in the operating environment. Where 
feasible, we are constantly looking for opportunities to sustain or 
expand existing strategic competitive advantages over our adversaries. 
The priority being the pacing threat. There are constraints and 
restraints associated with modernization. Specifically, our assumption 
is we must continue to modernize under the existing topline budget. 
Additionally, we are beholden to industry's capacity to manufacture 
equipment as well as the maturation of certain technologies. In the 
case of the latter, regardless of how many resources you align to a new 
technology, it won't necessarily speed up its development.
    The reality is that fielding new capabilities associated with Force 
Design 2030 is already well underway. Many of these ``future'' 
capabilities tied to Force Design 2030 are already being employed by 
marine forces today. Six examples from 2022 are illustrative:
    TF 61.2 and Reconnaissance and Counter-reconnaissance: In March 
2022, U.S. Sixth Fleet partnered with II MEF to create Task Force (TF) 
61.2. TF 61.2 was designed as a joint task force crisis response 
capability to command and control naval forces supporting contingencies 
in Europe and Africa. This force was delegated tactical control of 
amphibious forces (ARG/MEU) in theater, allocated marine forces (Marine 
Rotational Force--Europe), and a task organized reconnaissance/counter-
reconnaissance force. Near simultaneously, II MEF and 2d Marine 
Division were tasked with ``accelerating experimentation with maritime, 
multi-domain reconnaissance constructs and activities to enhance the 
ability of the stand-in force to dominate the information environment, 
sense and make sense of the situation, and win the reconnaissance vs. 
counter-reconnaissance competition.'' Commander, Sixth Fleet, 
immediately volunteered TF 61.2 to support these broader Service 
experimentation efforts. During the next several weeks, TF 61.2 
conducted training aboard both the USS Woody Williams (ESB-4) and USS 
Georgia (SSGN-729) and engaged in combined-arms training in both Greece 
and Turkey. Those initial exercises demonstrated that maritime 
expeditionary forces could increase surface, subsurface, and aerial 
domain awareness for the fleet commander--regardless of theater--and 
allowed us to focus on the information web required to create domain 
awareness in a contested space. TF 61.2 then transitioned these 
experimental capabilities to the Baltics, where it participated in 
bilateral training on maritime domain awareness with the Estonian Navy 
in the Gulf of Finland. During this period, TF 61.2 participated in an 
amphibious landing in Estonia and Exercise BALTOPS with 16 North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) nations, utilizing 47 ships and 
7,000 personnel. This new organization has been so successful the 
previous Commander, U.S. European Command (EUCOM) chose to highlight 
the value of the task force during his spring 2022 annual testimony. 
The bottom line is that your marines' ability to conduct reconnaissance 
and counter-reconnaissance is a current force capability that directly 
contributes to competition and deterrence today.
    TF 76.3: Building upon the success of TF 61.2, in October 2022, the 
3d Marine Expeditionary Brigade and Naval Task Force 76 staffs merged 
into a completely integrated naval task force in the Indo-Pacific. Over 
the next several months, TF 76.3 experimented with naval concepts at 
sea and ashore via a broad campaign of learning labeled NOBLE FUSION 
22.2. TF 76.3 also participated in exercises 6 KAMANDANG in the 
Philippines and RESOLUTE DRAGON in Japan. Once again, marines and 
sailors demonstrated the ability to create advanced information webs to 
support maritime domain awareness across the theater. Just as 
importantly, they demonstrated this capability to potential 
adversaries.

      i.  The LHA's size, which closely mirrors the amphibious warfare 
ships of our allies, makes it an attractive partnership and learning 
platform. During their deployment, marines and sailors from Tripoli and 
the 31st MEU trained with forces from Japan, Australia, the 
Philippines, and Singapore.

    Multifunction Air Operations Center (MAOC): In March 2022, 2d 
Marine Aircraft Wing (MAW) conducted the Service's first operational 
deployment of a multi-function air operations center (MAOC). In 
Lithuania, under the command of United States Air Forces Europe, the 
MAOC conducted air surveillance and multi-domain awareness in support 
of NATO operations. This is not simply an evolutionary step in fixed 
aviation command and control (C2) nodes, but rather, a 
transformational, expeditionary capability that can serve as a hub for 
Marine Corps, naval, and joint kill chains and webs. The MAOC provides 
the Marine Corps with the capability to control aircraft and missiles 
and enables decision superiority. It also offers the ability to gain 
and maintain custody of adversary targets and hold those targets at 
risk via fires with its organic TPS-80 Ground/Air Task-Oriented Radar 
(G/ATOR), Common Aviation Command and Control System (CAC2S), and 
highly proficient aviation C2 marines. The MAOC is scalable by task-7 
organized units, small enough to support distributed teams or large 
enough to support a multi-MEF or Corps-level fight. This agency 
construct is also the model we are using for the development of all 
domain C2. 3d MAW is now leading the Service's MAOC experimentation 
efforts and employed this capability as part of Marine Rotational 
Force--Darwin (MRF-D), integrating C2 and sensor services for 16 allied 
and partner nations during Exercise PITCH BLACK. From these initial 
efforts, 3d MAW has matured the MAOC, creating a persistent hub to 
enhance the common tactical picture for I and III MEF. Recent 
experiments in February 2023, which included United States Indo-Pacific 
Command (USINDOPACOM), have further demonstrated the MAOC's ability to 
integrate additional capabilities from the MEF Information Group and 
improve the common tactical picture for a carrier strike group, and is 
visible evidence of Joint All-Domain Command and Control (JADC2) in 
practice.
    Marine Corps Information Command (MCIC): In October 2022, we 
streamlined and simplified much of the coordination required for space 
and cyberspace operations at the headquarters level, by realigning 
current relationships and structure at Headquarters, Marine Corps 
(HQMC) from a staff officer to an operational commander, to create the 
MCIC. The MCIC is a service-retained command designed to integrate 
global Marine Corps capabilities in information, intelligence, 
cyberspace, and space to support Fleet Marine Forces (FMF) resulting in 
decision advantage. This two-star command operates under Marine Forces 
Command (MARFORCOM) and provides critical linkages across operational 
level planning. It also provides task organized detachments to support 
the FMF commander's campaigning objectives. This allows the commander 
to leverage the authorities needed to synchronize global cyber, space, 
influence, and intelligence effects and generate multi-domain 
advantages in support of the commander's objectives. The MCIC achieved 
initial operational capability (IOC) in January 2023.
    VMGR-153 and HMH-461: In January 2023, we activated Marine Aerial 
Refueler Transport Squadron 153 (VMGR-153) in Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii. By 
2026, VMGR-153 will bring 15 KC-130J aircraft to the region, building 
on the organic mobility available to marines responding to crisis or 
conflict in the region. We are also approaching 1 year since the CH-53K 
program achieved IOC and are well underway transitioning Marine Heavy 
Helicopter Squadron 461 (HMH-461) into our first fully operational CH-
53K squadron. Despite their ongoing transition, HMH-461 is already 
demonstrating the significant impact of this new capability, conducting 
heavy lift assault support missions previously impossible with legacy 
aircraft. In parallel, the operational test and evaluation squadron 
(VMX-1) continues to push the boundaries of heavy lift operations. Last 
December, they successfully lifted an F-35C, demonstrating the 
platform's utility in conducting next generation tactical recovery 
missions.
                       marine littoral regiments
    156. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, have any combatant 
commanders asked for an MLR to deploy to their theater?
    General Berger. The Service's one MLR is still in pre-FOC status 
and not yet ready for global operational employment; however, there are 
multiple theaters in which the MLR's ability to sense and make sense in 
the maritime domain in support of sea denial or sea control are 
applicable. It is not a force offering yet, but could be employed in a 
limited capacity if desired.
    The Marine Corps activated Hawaii based 3d MLR and will reach its 
initial operating capability (IOC) in the 4th quarter of fiscal year 
2023. Activating and reaching IOC of our MLRs are heavily reliant on 
the ability to be appropriately resourced. Current planning envisions 
the Okinawa based 12th MLR, and Guam based 4th MLR will be similar 
positioned in fiscal year 2025 and fiscal year 2027, respectively.
    As part of the Marine Corps' Campaign of Learning, 3d MLR recently 
participated in Joint and Combined exercises such as Balikatan and 
Northern Edge. Both exercises experimented with platforms, concepts, 
and capabilities that the MLR formations will be employing to further 
enhance lethality of the Joint Force.
    Although the MLRs have not reached a Fully Operational Capability 
(FOC) status, the experimentation and proof of concepts have 
demonstrated the value provided to the Joint Force.
    When replying to a question during the House Armed Services 
Committee (HASC) hearing on the Indo-Pacific National Security 
Challenges. Admiral John C. Aquilino provided the following response 
when asked about the MLR in this theatre of operations.
    ``First the Marine Littoral Regiment again, General Berger who came 
out of MARFORPAC as you know I think was pretty understanding of the 
threat, the scenario, and what was needed. So, I appreciate his effort 
to focus on the Indo Pacific problem set. That said, we need to deliver 
that organization with the capabilities to deliver effects to surface 
to air, surface to surface, surface to ship. When that force is armed, 
prepared, and that set of capability, it's exactly what we need in the 
Indo-Pacific to support the fight.''
    The Marine Corps is fielding force design capabilities to MLRs 
today. (23) Ground/Air Task-Oriented Radars (G/ATORs) were fielded by 
the end of 2022, (31) will be fielded by the end of June 2023, and (57) 
will be in the fleet by the end of 2025. (6) Navy Marine Expeditionary 
Ship Interdiction System (NMESIS) medium missile batteries will be 
fielded in Q4 fiscal year 2023, providing 3d MLR with the capability to 
contribute to sea denial and control operations. (13) Marine Air 
Defense Integrated Systems (MADIS) will begin fielding in fiscal year 
2024. (31) Network on the Move (NOTM) systems will be mounted onto 
ultra-light tactical vehicles (ULTVs) providing 3d MLR with more 
resilient Satellite Communication (SATCOM) capabilities in September of 
this year.
    However, the current programmatic timeline for the Medium Landing 
Ship (LSM) does not support delivery of the first (9) platforms to 
provide the Naval force with organic littoral mobility for one Marine 
Regiment until fiscal year 2033. To meet our current IOC timelines, the 
Marine Corps is investing in bridging solutions such as the Stern 
Landing Vessel (SLV) that will be delivered in Q2 FY23 for 
experimentation. Additionally, the Marine Corps has increased air 
mobility platforms such as the CH-53K, KC-130J, and the MV-22B to 
provide organic littoral mobility for the MLR.

    157. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, can MLRs conduct amphibious 
assaults, raids, or other missions that a MEU would conduct?
    General Berger. The most common Marine Air Ground Task Force 
(MAGTF) in the Marine Corps is the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU). The 
composition of how the MEU is spread across the three ship Amphibious 
Ready Group (ARG) and what capabilities that are within it will be 
tailored to the threat environment and historical trends of Combatant 
Commander mission assignments to the ARG/MEU team. Through the 
combination of at sea training periods, development of Standard 
Operating Procedures (SOPs), understanding of anticipated assigned 
missions, and the threat environment, the ARG/MEU team tailors what 
assets are assigned to each amphibious warfare ship within the ARG to 
be appropriately organized for operational deployment. These tailored 
MAGTFs are optimized to conduct amphibious assaults, raids, and other 
operations that require Amphibious Warfare Ships.
    Marine Littoral Regiments (MLRs) are purpose built MAGTFs that are 
designed to support the National Defense Strategy in achieving 
integrated deterrence. However, the MLR's ability to support sea 
denial, sense, and conduct counter-reconnaissance in support of a 
maritime campaign has value to all geographic combatant commands. While 
highly capable, the MLR is not optimized for amphibious assaults, 
raids, or other missions, more common to a MEU. Most notably, the MLR 
does not operate from or train with an ARG comprised of three 
Amphibious Warfare Ships, which allow it to conduct said operations.
    The MLR, as part of the Stand-in-Force, disrupts the adversary in a 
contested littoral environment through reconnaissance, counter-
reconnaissance, and sea denial operations to support the Naval 
Expeditionary Force's maritime campaign.

MLR Tasks:

      Conduct Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations

      Support Maritime Domain Awareness

      Conduct Reconnaissance in the Maritime Domain

      Support Littoral Targeting

      Conduct Littoral Transportation Operations

      Conduct Air Direction in Support of Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations

      Command and Control Distributed Maritime Operations

      Plan and Direct Littoral Maneuver

      Plan and Direct Sea Denial Operations

      Support Sea Denial Operations

    MLRs support Stand-in Forces in a naval campaign through 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations (EABO). Expeditionary Advanced 
Base Operations are a form of expeditionary warfare that involves the 
employment of mobile, low-signature, operationally relevant, and 
relatively easy to maintain and sustain naval expeditionary forces from 
a series of austere, temporary locations ashore or inshore within a 
contested or potentially contested maritime area to conduct sea denial, 
support sea control, or enable fleet sustainment.
    The MLR comprises a headquarters (Headquarters Company, 
Communications Company, and the Long-Range Unmanned Surface Vessel 
Company), and three subordinate commands--Littoral Combat Team (LCT), 
Littoral Anti-Air Battalion (LAAB), and Littoral Logistics Battalion 
(LLB), each command by a Lieutenant Colonel.
    LCT Mission: The LCT conducts reconnaissance and counter-
reconnaissance, employs, and enables multi-domain fires, and 
establishes expeditionary sites to support the maritime campaign across 
the competition continuum.
    The LCT is composed of an infantry battalion, a medium range 
missile battery, and an engineer platoon. The LCT seizes, secures, 
controls, and defends key maritime terrain to allow expeditionary 
advanced base operations, conducts bilateral operations with the host 
nation, and attacks enemy maritime targets with naval strike missiles 
(NSM) utilizing naval and joint sensors.
    LAAB Mission: The LAAB conducts anti-air warfare and enables 
integration of aviation operations with organic and joint fires to 
support the maritime campaign across the competition continuum.
    The LAAB is composed of a low altitude air defense battery and an 
air control squadron with an air surveillance platoon and air support 
platoon. The battery is capable of short-range air defense and counter-
unmanned aircraft systems. The squadron provides the MLR with multiple 
scalable command and control nodes providing air control and fires 
integration throughout the MLR area of operations. Additionally, the 
LAAB provides airspace surveillance, limited air direction, air 
control, air intercept control, and coordination of support anti-air 
and anti-surface fires. The LAAB's capabilities enable joint or 
combined forces to gain and maintain custody of littoral targets 
supporting sea denial operations.
    LLB Mission: The LLB provides tactical logistics and explosive 
ordinance disposal support to sustain regimental operations across the 
competition continuum.
    The LLB is composed of two direct support combat logistics 
companies that support the LCT and LAAB, and a general support 
logistics company. The direct support logistics companies support 
managing cache sites and connects tactical and operational logistics 
distribution. The support companies provide functional logistic support 
across all functions of logistics and classes of supply. The general 
support logistics company establish logistics support areas for 
logistics command and control to provide timely support to forward 
expeditionary advanced base positions.

    158. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how specifically do MLRs 
differ from the U.S. Army's MDTFs?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps' Marine Littoral Regiment (MLR) 
and the Army's Multi-Domain Task Force (MDTF) represent innovative and 
thoughtful approaches to compete and win on the modern battlefield, 
against peer adversaries. Both formations offer unique, yet 
complementary, capabilities that present multiple dilemmas for 
adversaries and generate options for the Joint Force commander in both 
competition and conflict.
    The MLR is designed specifically to operate in the littorals. Its 
mission is, as part of the Stand-in Force, is to disrupt the adversary 
in a contested littoral environment through reconnaissance, counter-
reconnaissance, and sea denial operations. Additionally, the MLR 
operates below the threshold of armed violence by strengthening 
relationships with allies and partners, reassuring them of U.S. 
security commitments, and fostering access in times of crisis or 
conflict. It is designed to support the Joint Force in the contact and 
blunt layers of the Global Operating Model. In crisis, forward posture 
and access enables the MLR to hold adversary assets at risk, contribute 
to the Joint Forces' Sea denial and sea control operations via organic 
lethality and the closing of joint kill webs, and provide other 
critical enabling actions to the naval and Joint Force. Finally, the 
MLR is purpose-built and designed to rapidly transition from 
competition, to conflict, and back to competition as escalatory or de-
escalatory dynamics dictate.
    The MLR is distinguished by its forward posture, its ability to 
rapidly deploy with organic Marine Corps and Navy assets, and its 
capabilities to persist within an adversary's weapons engagement zone. 
These capabilities are underpinned by naval concepts to include 
Littoral Operations in a Contested Environment, Distributed Maritime 
Operations, Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations, and the Concept for 
Stand-In Forces.
    The MDTF provides complementary theater-level maneuver elements 
focused on anti access/area denial (A2/AD) networks through the conduct 
of multi-domain operations (MDO). The MDTF does not possess organic 
mobility, rather it relies on strategic lift and commercial vessels for 
inter-theater mobility within a distributed maritime environment, such 
as the Indo-Pacific region.
    In the expansive Indo-Pacific region, a clear necessity exists for 
the MLR and the MDTF, particularly in time of conflict. Both units 
leverage a similar multi-domain approach, in some cases using like 
systems. However, the MLR has a unique mission requirement to operate 
forward postured in the Indo-Pacific region within a contested area. 
This necessitates balancing lethality with mobility--through lighter, 
expeditionary equipment and the employment of organic and Navy mobility 
assets.

    159. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, as so much of the success of 
MLRs depend on the prepositioning of forces, what steps is the Marines 
Corps currently taking to ensure partner nations will allow these units 
to operate in their territory?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps Force Design 2030 concept, 
including the activation of Marine Littoral Regiments (MLRs), supports 
integrated deterrence with partner and allied forces to meet the pacing 
threat across the conflict continuum. Security cooperation is our key 
means of enhancing access and increasing the likelihood that this 
access will be permitted during a crisis.

      The Marine Corps is reinforcing traditional and 
developing new partnerships with numerous allied and partner (A&P) 
nations to build habitual, practical interaction and maintain 
continuing access.

      Although our main focus is on the Pacific, we maintain 
relationships across the globe with key A&P to ensure relevance for 
crises anywhere.

      Agreements play a key role by providing the legal and 
administrative framework for presence that respects the sovereignty and 
interests of our A&P. The close interaction and cooperation that 
accompany our presence build and maintain true partnerships.

      Key vehicles that facilitate our security cooperation 
include visits by deployed Marine Corps forces, key leader engagements, 
bilateral and multilateral exercises, and humanitarian assistance/
disaster relief (HA/DR) support.

      These sustained relationships will enable the Marine 
Corps Stand-In Force and deter or engage common enemies alongside our 
allies and partners from a forward posture.

    Key Points. Examples of key engagements the Marine Corps supports 
includes:

    a. Defense Policy Review Initiative (DPRI): In the post-2001 era, 
both the United States and Japan recognized the need to adjust United 
States force posture to effectively fulfill the requirements of the 
Alliance. The DPRI laid out a future path to realign United States 
forces across the Indo-Pacific to meet the challenges of the future and 
included significant repositioning of forces from Okinawa to Guam and 
other locations. As a result of the 2021 Global Posture Review, the 
Department of Defense is engaged with our A&P across the region to 
advance initiatives that contribute to regional stability. Posture 
changes announced on January 11, 2023, by the United States and the 
Government of Japan Security Consultative Committee (2+2) ensures that 
the Marine Corps remains ready to address evolving regional and global 
security challenges. Specifically, a mutual agreement was reached that 
the 12th Marine Regiment will remain on Okinawa and will be reorganized 
into the 12th Marine Littoral Regiment (MLR) by 2025 in accordance with 
Marine Corps modernization efforts. The 12th MLR will provide a ready 
and capable Stand-In-Force within the first island chain, prepared to 
support the United States-Japan Alliance, bolstering our ability to 
support deterrence efforts, and respond to contingencies.

    b. Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) sites in the 
Philippines: In 2014, the United States and the Philippines signed the 
EDCA, which bolsters the bilateral alliance by allowing extended 
rotational presence of U.S. forces and the establishment of facilities 
for joint use--these facilities are known as ``EDCA sites.'' Marine 
Corps Forces, Pacific (MARFORPAC) and the Philippine Marine Corps (PMC) 
signed the 5-Year Integrated Readiness and Deterrence Plan 2022-2026 to 
advance integrated deterrence and enable the maintenance and 
sustainment of combat readiness. The goal is to integrate and posture 
PMC-MARFORPAC forces and capabilities by 2026, including persistent MLR 
engagement. The United States-Philippine joint development and 
investment within EDCA locations exemplify the necessity of the Marine 
Corps and United States Forces in the Philippines in order to develop 
Philippine bases and locations to bilaterally respond to HA/DR 
situations and enable combined training through scheduled exercises, 
like Balikatan, and engagements.

    c. Marine Rotational Force-Darwin (MRF-D) in Australia: Per the 
2023 Australian Defence Strategic Review, the Australian Army is 
developing a highly capable, modern amphibious fighting force. The 
Marine Corps and the Australian Army maximize integration, capability 
development, and training with MRF-D, the rotational Marine Corps 
presence in Australia. MRF-D, supported by the Ground Equipment Staging 
Program (GESP) participates in recurrent multilateral exercises like 
TALISMAN SABRE and bilateral engagement opportunities like PITCH BLACK. 
Additionally, Marine Corps support for the Australian Army's amphibious 
capability development which bolsters the second pillar of the enhanced 
trilateral security partnership ``AUKUS.'' This continual support to 
Australia's defense development and modernization not only strengthens 
longstanding bilateral ties thus enhancing ongoing operational access.

    d. Marine Rotational Force-Southeast Asia (MRF-SEA): Since 2022, 
MARFORPAC has forward-deployed forces to Southeast Asia to achieve 
maritime security objectives with A&P in the region. MRF-SEA reassures 
A&P in region by consistently and reliably executing agreed-upon 
security cooperation activities. This contributes to regional stability 
by increasing MARFORPAC's responsiveness to crises and contingences. 
MRF-SEA conducts bilateral and multilateral security cooperation 
engagements with partners such as Singapore and Indonesia. This modular 
rotational force exercises distributed command, control, logistics, and 
transportation nodes supporting multiple, sometimes simultaneous, 
regional engagements. The exact composition of the force, locations, 
and schedules vary each year according to agreed-upon security 
cooperation engagements with host countries. This concept also operates 
within existing access, basing, and overflight agreements with 
Southeast Asian partners and allies to mutually support posture 
initiatives and reduce inter-theater transportation requirements for 
not only the Marine Corps but also partner and allied forces.

    e. Task Force Koa Moana (TF KM): TF KM is the primary Marine Corps 
force to counter the People's Republic of China (PRC) influence and 
access in Oceania. Through TF KM's modest investments, the Marine Corps 
obtains excellent access to key sea lines of communication and achieves 
outsized effects that are mutually beneficial to A&P and the U.S. In 
fiscal year 2022 TF KM primarily engaged in Palau and the Commonwealth 
of Northern Marianas Islands due to pandemic-induced travel 
restrictions. In fiscal year 2023, TF KM has returned to contested 
terrain such as the Solomon Islands, Vanuatu, Kiribati, Fiji, and 
Tonga. These engagements supported maritime security and maritime 
domain awareness, as well as reinforce combined logistics hubs within 
contested environments. The development of multilateral maritime law 
enforcement, HA/DR response exercises, and climate change resilience 
continues to enhance multilateral security cooperation and 
accessibility throughout Oceania.

    f. Marine Rotational Force-Europe (MRF-E) in Norway: The Marine 
Corps maintains a very close relationship with Norway that facilitates 
setting the theater--developing a profound understanding of the region 
and establishing conditions for Marine Corps success--through an 
exercise schedule that provides near-persistent presence of USMC forces 
in Norway and the High North. The United States--Norway Memorandum of 
Understanding (MOU) Governing Prestockage and Reinforcement of Norway 
provides USMC access to the Marine Corps Prepositioning Program in 
Norway (MCPP-N). MCPP-N facilitates prepositioned stocks, which are 
available for global operational requirements in support of any 
geographic combatant commander. In addition to the NATO Status of 
Forces Agreement, which allows USMC forces to move into, through, and 
transit out of Norway, the United States and Norway share a Defense 
Cooperation Agreement and Supplemental Defense Cooperation Agreement, 
which assure United States forces additional access to Norwegian and 
United States-built infrastructure in Norway.
                     iii marine expeditionary force
    160. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, Title X states that, ``[t]he 
Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be so organized 
as to include not less than three combat divisions and three air wings, 
and such other land combat, aviation, and other services as may be 
organic therein.'' Can you explain the difference in III MEF's 
structure pre-Force Design 2030 and once Force Design is complete?
    General Berger. The Marine Corps still possesses three combat 
divisions, three air wings, three logistics groups, and has added three 
information groups.
    Historically, the Marine Corps relies on supplying approximately 
one-fifth of III Marine Expeditionary Force's (III MEF) combat power 
via the Unit Deployment Program (UDP). Pre-Force Design, III MEF's 
structure consisted of just over 27,000 marines. At the conclusion of 
Force Design 2030, III MEF's structure will consist of just over 22,100 
marines, however 89 percent of III MEF's combat power will be organic, 
reducing the requirement to source unit deployment-based marines to the 
MEF.



    161. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, what was the structure of 
the 3d Marine Division pre-Force Design 2030 and what will it be in 
2030?
    General Berger. Marine Corps Reference Publication (MCRP) 1-10.1 
Organization of the United States Marine Corps defines the composition 
of a division. As the MCRP provides the high-level overview of the 
current structure of the Marine Corps at the time of publication, it is 
not a prescribed document. Thus, the three MEFs and the subordinate 
divisions, wings, and logistics elements will not be identical across 
the service. 3d Marine Division has always been organized differently 
than the other divisions (pages 5-2 through 5-4 of the 2015 
publication). In this document, 3d Marine Division is composed of only 
two infantry regiments, one of which is filled by units throughout the 
Marine Corps under the unit deployment program (UDP).
    This reference publication is currently in the final stages of 
republication in the first time since August 2015. Key updates to this 
republication will include the additions of the Marine Littoral 
Regiment (MLR), Marine Corps Information Command (MCIC), Marine Forces 
Cyber, and updated missions, capabilities, and organizational charts. 
This publication will also include the Amphibious Combat Vehicle (ACV) 
for the first time, along with references to Force Design 2030 
formations like the Littoral Anti-Air Battalion (LAAB), Littoral Combat 
Team (LCT), and Littoral Logistics Battalion (LLB). Finally, the 
publication standardizes all doctrinal terms in accordance with the 
latest Marine Corps and DOD dictionaries.
    At the completion of Force Design 2030 modernization efforts, 3d 
Marine Division will have three operational MLRs, the 3d, 4th, and 12th 
MLRs. Going forward, 3d Marine Division will retain a similar structure 
but with a different organization of the units within it.

    162. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, by table of organization, 
how many infantry marines were in the 3d Marine Division pre-Force 
Design 2030?
    General Berger. 4,548
    
    
    The increased lethality of the core infantry battalion is improved 
through increased staffing. From 1995 until now, Battalion T/Os have 
gotten slightly smaller (from 904 to 897--with Navy personnel), but the 
staffing percentage has increased, and the unit-to-unit variances have 
decreased. The higher staffing level allows commanders to train as they 
will fight.'' For Infantry battalions, the staffing as a percent of T/O 
is 97 percent now; up from 89 percent in 1995 (all battalions 
aggregated). In 1995 only 5 of 24 battalions were staffed above 100 
percent of T/O while 12 were below 90 percent of T/O, compared to that 
to 2023 where 10 battalions are above 100 percent and only 5 are below 
90 percent.

    163. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, how many infantry marines 
will be in 3d Marine Division when Force Design 2030 is fully 
implemented?
    General Berger. Two thousand, two hundred and three.
    
    
    For context the raw data depicted in the above two QFRs does not 
provide the necessary context to understand the increased lethality 
these infantry formations have gained by investments in capabilities 
such as precision fires, advanced sensor assets, and critical 
communications equipment to synthesize targeting. There are more 
killing assets per infantry marine in 2030 than in 2019. Infantry 
battalion lethality, as measured by share of crew-served weapons per 
marine assigned to infantry battalion, increased by 28 percent from 
2019 to 2030.
    The increased lethality of the core infantry battalion is improved 
through increased staffing. From 1995 until now, Battalion T/Os have 
gotten slightly smaller (from 904 to 897--with Navy personnel), but the 
staffing percentage has increased, and the unit-to-unit variances have 
decreased. The higher staffing level allows commanders to train as they 
will fight.'' For Infantry battalions, the staffing as a percent of T/O 
is 97 percent now; up from 89 percent in 1995 (all battalions 
aggregated). In 1995 only 5 of 24 battalions were staffed above 100 
percent of T/O while 12 were below 90 percent of T/O, compared to that 
to 2023 where 10 battalions are above 100 percent and only 5 are below 
90 percent.

    164. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in 2030 will III MEF be able 
to conduct humanitarian/disaster relief operations on the scale that it 
did during Operation Unified Assistance, the response to the tsunami in 
Southeast Asia in 2004?
    General Berger. Yes, while our operations are dependent on 
amphibious fleet size, the Marine Corps will be able to conduct 
humanitarian/disaster relief operations on a scale heretofore achieved.
    Title 10 United States Code, Section 8063 (United States Marine 
Corps: composition; functions) states that:

        The Marine Corps, within the Department of the Navy, shall be 
        so organized as to include not less than three combat divisions 
        and three air wings, and such other land combat, aviation, and 
        other services as may be organic therein. The Marine Corps 
        shall be organized, trained, and equipped to provide fleet 
        marine forces of combined arms, together with supporting air 
        components, for service with the fleet in the seizure or 
        defense of advanced naval bases and for the conduct of such 
        land operations as may be essential to the prosecution of a 
        naval campaign. In addition, the Marine Corps shall provide 
        detachments and organizations for service on armed vessels of 
        the Navy, shall provide security detachments for the protection 
        of naval property at naval stations and bases, and shall 
        perform such other duties as the President may direct. However, 
        these additional duties may not detract from or interfere with 
        the operations for which the Marine Corps is primarily 
        organized.

    The Marine Corps is and continues to be the Nation's force in 
readiness and prepared to respond to crisis across the globe. Our 
investment strategy for modernization required us to accept some risk 
in near-term readiness. However, we have continued to balance and 
mitigate that risk and still provide combatant commanders with relevant 
capabilities. These capabilities include credible deterrence and offer 
an option for the rapid aggregation of forward, tailored and ready 
forces to respond to crisis or conflict.
    Mobility is a key characteristic to the dispersion and persistence 
of stand-in forces and crisis response. In the case of the Indo-
Pacific, littoral mobility will be essential to our ability to maneuver 
through the complex geography of the region. A heel-to-toe ARG/MEU 
provides the Nation a mobile, multi-mission force that is forward 
deployed and able to quickly move to any number of crises around the 
world. A naval crisis response force is significantly more flexible 
than other land-based crisis response forces because it is less 
restricted by issues of access, basing, and overflight. The ability to 
maneuver by sea to the point of crisis makes the ARG/MEU critical to 
our Nation's ability to demonstrate resolve in a HA/DR mission or to 
project power in a limited conflict.
    In the next two to 5 years, many of our amphibious ships will reach 
the end of their service life and will cause delays in ARG/MEU 
deployments. When there are gaps in global ARG/MEU coverage, the Nation 
risks not having the right assets capable of getting to the crisis in 
time

    165. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, beyond its role to operate 
in the contested littorals, is III MEF today currently capable of 
meeting its requirements for other regional war plans?
    General Berger. Yes. III MEF can meet all of its regional war plan 
requirements.
    From the outset of our current modernization efforts, I have 
directed the Marine Corps to design and develop a force focused on our 
pacing threat. Our approach to modernization has been deliberately 
iterative as to remain flexible to changes in the operating 
environment. Where feasible, we are constantly looking for 
opportunities to sustain or expand existing strategic competitive 
advantages over our adversaries. The priority being the pacing threat. 
There are constraints and restraints associated with modernization. 
Specifically, our assumption is we must continue to modernize under the 
existing topline budget. Additionally, we are beholden industry's 
capacity to manufacture equipment as well as the maturation of certain 
technologies. In the case of the latter, regardless of how many 
resources you align to a new technology it won't necessarily speed up 
its development.
    As we have seen from 2019 until now, the operating environment 
continues to evolve. I fully expect it to continue to evolve from now 
until 2030 and beyond. As such, 2030 is only a way point for our 
modernization and not the end.
    However, with respect to our ability to respond in 2027, the Marine 
Corps is still the world's premier crisis response force. Additionally, 
I have prioritized III MEF and we have weighted them with the people 
and equipment necessary to be able to support INDOPACOM and their 
requirement to ``fight tonight.''
    Our modernization envisions the activation of MLRs in III MEF only, 
which operates in the INDOPACOM area of responsibility (AOR). The MLRs 
were designed to support the National Defense Strategy in achieving 
integrated deterrence and preventing future war from occurring. 
However, the MLR's ability to support sea denial, sense, and conduct 
counter-reconnaissance in support of a maritime campaign has value to 
all geographic combatant commands. Wargames and experimentation 
continue to evaluate the effectiveness and efficacy of MLRs in key 
maritime terrain globally. The Marine Corps' modernization initiatives 
do not exclude the possibility providing similar capabilities to other 
geographic combatant commands. NMESIS Battalions, GLCM Batteries, LAAD 
Battalions, and MACCs units from I and II MEFs can dynamically task 
organize to provide MLR capabilities.
                      marine corps mine clearance
    166. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in responses provided to my 
office by the Marine Corps following an April 14, 2023 brief on Section 
1023 of the fiscal year 2023 NDAA, the Marine Corps reported that the 
Anti-Personnel Obstacle Breaching System (APOBS) and M58 Mine Clearing 
Line Charge (MICLIC) enabled the clearance for a 100m-long path through 
minefields for foot-mobile and vehicle movement. When either of these 
capabilities are employed, how will the minefields be ``proofed'' to 
ensure it supports foot-mobile or vehicular movement?
    General Berger. All ``proofing'' methods possesses risk. Enemy 
obstacles with deeply buried mines or more modern methods such as 
command detonated ancillary explosives not in the breach lane, or even 
loitering munitions targeting breaching and proofing vehicles all 
present risk. The action-reaction-counteraction cycle will continue. 
While there is no feasible way to eliminate risk in breaching 
operations, the Service has explored more technical means to identify 
remaining threats pre and post breach.
    Currently, we are investing in the development of lighter route 
clearance capabilities; using unmanned air and ground platforms 
intended to detect and neutralize landmines and IEDs from a safe 
distance (i.e., outside the serious injury zone around the mine/IED). 
Between fiscal year 2023 and fiscal year 2028, $80 million will be 
invested into these emerging capabilities. One of these capabilities is 
the Littoral Explosive Ordnance Neutralization (LEON) program of record 
designed to provide an initial organic Marine Corps counter-mine 
capability from shallow water through the beach zone. Derived from a 
2019 Rapid Statement of Need (RSON), the program fields a family of 
systems (FoS) that enables Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) marines to 
detect and neutralize underwater explosive hazards from standoff 
distances with robotic and autonomous platforms. When fully 
operationally capable, this FoS complements Navy Mine Countermeasure 
(MCM) capability and capacity, enhances multi-domain awareness, and 
ensures the maneuver, protection, and sustainment of the Naval 
expeditionary force.
    ``Proofing'' as envisioned by veterans from a conflict 33 years ago 
against an adversary without long range precision fires is a different 
character of war than the peer competitor character of war for which 
the Marine Corps is modernizing. It is true proofing from a heavy 
mechanized vehicle will not be organically possible by the Marine Corps 
units. Enhanced tactics, techniques, and procedures more aligned with 
the lighter, highly mobile, and low signature maneuver capabilities are 
required to survive in a contested operating environment.
    Marine engineer battalions remain equipped with the man-portable 
Anti-Personnel Obstacle Breaching Systems (APOBS) for clearing 45m 
lanes for foot-traffic, as well as with the trailer mounted M58 Mine 
Clearing Line Charge (MICLIC) for clearing up to 100m vehicle-capable 
lanes.
    Through large land battles in CENTCOM over the past 20 years, route 
clearance capabilities have erroneously become synonymous with large 
Mine Resistant Ambush Protected (MRAP) vehicles. In 2007, Secretary of 
Defense Robert Gates initiated the MRAP Task Force to rapidly procure 
the Department of Defense's highest priority program to meet the need 
of the
    Improvised Explosive Device (IED) threat in the Central Command 
(CENTCOM) theater. These vehicles were a critical asset during a 
prolonged land campaign against an inferior adversary that relied on 
improvised capabilities and saved many American lives.
    Today's threat environment is characterized by great power 
competition with multiple peer adversaries that maintain advanced 
threat capabilities that put large, heavy, high-signature vehicles at 
risk. Furthermore, the size of these vehicles requires heavy sealift or 
airlift capabilities to get into the region, which limits the global 
responsiveness demanded of our Marine Forces as America's Force in 
Readiness. Even the employment of these 18-ton vehicles is limited on 
the unimproved roads across the landscape of archipelagos in the Indo-
Pacific region. In 2021, the Marine Corps divested of mounted route 
clearance capabilities that used 18-ton Mine Resistant Ambush Protected 
(MRAP) vehicles as base platforms.
                         marine corps artillery
    167. General Berger, senior Ukrainian military leaders have praised 
the addition of the HIMARS rocket system to their forces, but also add 
that the most important fire support system for their forces has been 
cannon artillery. How does the present, real world example comport with 
the significant reductions in marines' cannon artillery?
    General Berger. We have retained two cannon artillery battalions in 
the Active component, which provides capacity to support MEU 
deployments and to provide close support fires for a Marine Brigade-
sized unit. Two additional cannon artillery battalions are available in 
the Reserve component to support surge requirements.
    Ukraine is heavily dependent on 155 cannon artillery and mortar 
systems due to the nature of warfare being conducted across the forward 
line of troops. When Ukraine wants to prosecute long range, high value 
targets with precision, they rely on the HIMARS. Currently, the vast 
majority of Ukrainian and Russian forces fighting inside Ukraine are in 
close contact; oftentimes the distance between Russian and Ukrainian 
lines are a few hundred meters. Further, small pockets of territory are 
captured and recaptured by Ukrainian and Russian forces accentuating 
the war's relative closeness. From the Ukrainian perspective, the 
closeness of combat operations suggests that cannon artillery is the 
optimum fires required to support Ukrainian forces in contact with the 
Russians.
    How the Ukrainian military is defending its homeland is a different 
problem set as to how the Marine Corps will integrate with the joint 
force in a future conflict and fulfill its Title 10 responsibilities of 
conducting ``land operations as may be essential to the prosecution of 
a naval campaign'' against a near peer adversary.
    Cannons and rockets are complimentary fire support systems, but 
provide unique advantages and disadvantages depending on mission, 
enemy, targets, and terrain. The Ukrainians have effectively employed 
both cannons and rockets to defend and retake territory with a lack of 
aviation fires. As a part of our combined arms doctrine, the Marine 
Corps integrates artillery, aviation, naval, and non-kinetic fires to 
achieve effects that enable maneuver. We have carefully assessed the 
current and future capabilities of our peer adversaries, as well as the 
capabilities required to support naval maneuver. Through that analysis, 
we are retaining some cannon artillery for land-based contingency 
operations while transitioning to more long-range precision fires (i.e. 
rockets and missiles). In addition to providing greater range and 
accuracy, these new systems provide an anti-ship capability that is 
critical to supporting naval campaigns. We will continue to assess the 
right mix of artillery systems to compliment the other fires components 
within the MAGTF.
                         forcement capabilities
    168. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, the Marine Corps is 
divesting of three Law Enforcement battalions and consequently 
capabilities like policing, crime scene processing, mobility/route 
security, detention operations and Enemy Prisoner of War/detainee 
handling, biometrics and evidence handling, military working dogs, 
sensitive site exploitation, and police advising and training. Have 
Combatant Commanders been made aware that assigned or allocated Marine 
Corps forces will no longer possess these operational units and their 
associated capabilities?
    General Berger. Yes, the Marine Corps makes its capabilities and 
offerings known to the Joint Force and Combatant Commands through the 
annual Global Force Management Allocation Plan (GFMAP) development 
process.

    169. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, does the Marine Corps intend 
to retain law enforcement capabilities in other units, and if so, which 
specific units and in what capacities?
    General Berger. With the divestment of the Active component Law 
Enforcement Battalions (LE Bn), the USMC continues to retain law 
enforcement capabilities within the installation and the Marine Corps 
Reserves within 4th LE Bn. Installation Law Enforcement capabilities 
reside within Marine Corps Installation Command (MCICOM), Training and 
Education Command (TECOM), and Marine Corps Reserve Headquarters, New 
Orleans LA. Installation Law Enforcement is comprised of Provost 
Marshal Offices and Marine Corps Police Departments (PMO / MCPD) and 
provide Law Enforcement capabilities to commanders that include, but 
are not limited to, Incident Response, Criminal Investigation, Special 
Reaction Teams (SRT), Military Working Dogs, Accident Investigation, 
Corrections, Physical Security, and Administrative Services. 4th LE Bn 
is organized to support operational requirements, while the PMO / MCPD 
at the installations train to garrison law enforcement standards.

    Installation PMO/MCPD Locations

    -  MCICOM o MCLB Albany, GA
        MCSF Blount Island, FL
        MCB Camp Lejeune
        MCAS Cherry Point
        MCB Cam Pendleton
        MCAS Miramar
        MCAS Yuma
        MCLB Barstow
        MCB Quantico
        MCAF (HMX-1
        MCB Camp Butler
        MCAS Futenma
        Camp Fiji
        Camp Mujuk
        MCAS Iwakuni
        MCB Hawaii
        MCAS Hawaii

    -  TECOM
        MCAGCC 29 Palms, CA
        MCMWTC Bridgeport
        MCRD San Diego
        MCRD Parris Island

    -  Marine Forces Reserve
        NOLA HQ

    4th Law Enforcement Battalion Units/Location
        Military Police Company A
        o  Lexington, KY

        Military Police Company B
        o  North Versailles, PA

        Military Police Company C
        o  Dayton, OH

        Military Police Company D
        o  Billings, MT
        o  Anchorage, AK

        Headquarters Support Company

        Albuquerque, NM
                             scout snipers
    170. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, in late February 2023 the 
Marine Corps issued a memo announcing the immediate transition of Scout 
Sniper Platoons to Scout Platoons. The reason given was that scout 
sniper platoons didn't provide battalion commanders with sufficient 
``continuous all-weather information gathering.'' These new Scout 
Platoons of 26 marines, which is larger than the traditional Scout 
Sniper Platoon size of 18, will ``provide the commander with relevant, 
reliable, accurate and prompt information.'' While Marine Forces 
Special Operations Command and Reconnaissance Battalions will continue 
to train their own snipers, infantry battalions will no longer have an 
organic sniper capability. Instead they will rely on some type of less 
capable and specialized designated marksman for precision shooting. I 
believe efforts to increase the information available to a battalion 
commander are worthwhile but I am concerned about the tradeoff. What 
exercises and experiments informed this decision?
    General Berger. In Spring 2020, the Commandant of the Marine Corps 
approved the Force Design 2030 plan, divesting the preponderance of 
weapon-specific military occupational specialties within the infantry 
battalions in favor of highly trained marines more capable of employing 
a variety of weapons and equipment. Included in this decision was 
divesting Scout Sniper Platoon structure, believing that rifle squads 
with advanced equipment and training could provide suitable ground-
based sensing in support of the infantry battalion. (Today's basic 
infantry rifle with integrated scope is considerably more accurate than 
earlier versions, and infantry company ``arms rooms'' also include 
precision rifles for designated marines to employ as directed for 
specific missions.)
    Infantry Battalion Experimentation (IBX) Phase I determined the 
redesigned infantry battalions lacked sufficient all-weather 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities. 
Based on these findings, the Commandant approved establishing a Scout 
Platoon in each infantry battalion, providing timely, organic ISR 
capability in support of the battalion commander's Priority 
Intelligence and Commander's Critical Information Requirements.
    Infantry companies retain their precision rifle capability, and the 
Marine Corps will maintain school-trained snipers within Reconnaissance 
and Marine Special Operations units. Reconnaissance marines will attend 
the Service-run Reconnaissance Sniper Course, training in precision 
marksmanship and weapons employment standards in multiple environments, 
focusing on distributed small unit operations. Marine Raiders attend 
the U.S. Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command-run special 
operations sniper courses.
    The Marine Corps no longer awards the 0317 (Scout Sniper) MOS. 
Beginning in fiscal year 2024, all infantry battalions will add a Scout 
Platoon, divest of the sniper platoon, and move the precision rifles to 
the infantry companies' arms rooms.
    Experimentation is a core component of Force Design 2030, and the 
Service will continue testing concepts and equipment to ensure infantry 
battalions are properly structured, trained, and equipped to meet 
Joint, naval, and service requirements. In this spirit, experimentation 
is currently underway (IBX Phase II) to study how the new Scout Platoon 
best supports battalion-level organic all-weather ISR requirements and 
the Service's enduring requirements for precision marksmanship 
capabilities.

    171. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, will Recon snipers be 
employed and assigned differently to provide the missing sniper 
capability if a battalion commander wants it?
    General Berger. No, Reconnaissance snipers will be employed to meet 
the missions assigned to their units. Within the restructured infantry 
battalions, the precision rifle capability now resides within an ``arms 
room'' in the infantry companies to be employed by infantry marines as 
deemed necessary for specific missions. Infantry marines designated by 
their commanders will attend the additional training necessary to 
become proficient in the employment of precision rifles. Through 
experimentation, the Marine Corps is in the process of analyzing the 
enduring requirements for precision marksmanship capabilities within 
the infantry battalions to determine the performance standards and 
training necessary to meet Fleet Marine Force requirements.
    Infantry Battalion Experimentation (IBX) Phase I determined the 
redesigned infantry battalions lacked sufficient all-weather 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) capabilities. 
Based on these findings, the Commandant approved establishing a Scout 
Platoon in each infantry battalion, providing timely, organic ISR 
capability in support of the battalion commander's Priority 
Intelligence and Commander's Critical Information Requirements.
    Infantry companies retain their precision rifle capability, and the 
Marine Corps will maintain school-trained snipers within Reconnaissance 
and Marine Special Operations units. Reconnaissance marines will attend 
the Service-run Reconnaissance Sniper Course, training in precision 
marksmanship and weapons employment standards in multiple environments, 
focusing on distributed small unit operations. Marine Raiders attend 
the U.S. Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command-run special 
operations sniper courses.
    The organizational structure of the scout platoon will be comprised 
of 26 marines that fall within the battalion's Headquarters and Service 
Company. It will consist of:

      1x Platoon Commander

      1x Platoon Sergeant

      4x Scout Teams, each consisting of 6x marines (1x Scout 
Team Leader, 1x Scout Assistant Team Leader, and 4x Scouts).
                                  lsm
    172. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday, the 
Landing Ship Mediums are essential to MLRs operating as Stand-in Forces 
and conducting EABO. The fiscal year 2024 Navy budget shows six LSMs 
being ordered over the next 5 years. That isn't enough to support one 
MLR, let alone the three MLRs the Marine Corps will field in the 
INDOPACOM AOR. How can the Navy accelerate delivery of LSMs?
    Secretary Del Toro and Admiral Gilday. The ability to procure the 
Medium Landing Ship (LSM) is dependent on the approved requirements 
that are currently under development. The fiscal year 2024 funding 
request continues the development of acquisition documentation, 
equipment baseline, and efforts to support a lead ship contract award 
in fiscal year 2025. After lead ship contract award, opportunities may 
exist to accelerate deliveries of LSMs following sufficient reduction 
of design and production risks. The Navy supports the fiscal year 2024 
President's budget request as the best balance of investments to 
deliver a combat-credible Navy within the directed topline. Any 
acceleration opportunities would be included in future President's 
budget requests, in that if future budget submissions include 
sufficient quantities, there may be an opportunity to establish a 
second source to accelerate LSM deliveries to the fleet.
    The Navy-Marine Corps team is evaluating a broad range of options 
to provide a bridging strategy until the Medium Landing Ship (LSM) 
enters the fleet in sufficient numbers to meet Marine Littoral Regiment 
maneuver, mobility and sustainment requirements.
                    lift capability in indopacom aor
    173. Senator Sullivan. General Berger, maintenance issues and 
amphibious ship retirements have prevented the Navy from deploying 
Amphibious Ready Groups when MEUs have been ready to deploy. The Navy's 
30-year shipbuilding plan never achieves the legal requirement to have 
at least 31 amphibious ships in the fleet. The Landing Ship Medium, 
which is critical to realizing the full capability of the MLR, will not 
be fielded in sufficient numbers to satisfy the requirements for even 
one MLR in the next 5 years. With these significant challenges in 
amphibious lift, the Marine Corps is posed to reduce the organic 
aviation lift available to the MAGTF over the next several years, 
including putting MV-22s and CH-53Ks into storage. Please explain how 
the changes to Marine Corps aviation with Force Design 2030 do not 
decrease the Marine Corps' organic lift capability in the INDOPACOM 
AOR.
    General Berger. First, there is no substitute for a ready, 
deployable amphibious warfare fleet. These platforms are the most 
versatile surface ships in our fleet--prepared to respond when and 
where our Nation needs them. Second, the additive capability of LSMs 
provide significant shore-to-shore mobility for our stand in force. 
Marine aviation is a complement to these capabilities, not a 
substitute.
    Force Design (FD) efforts have expanded Marine Aviation with 
modernized capabilities, increased readiness, and enhanced lethality 
across all platforms to meet the demands of global force management, 
rapidly changing technology, and the ever-changing operating 
environment. Historically, the number of squadrons (organizational 
construct) and aircraft (composition) within aviation units has always 
evolved inside the Program of Records (POR) to ensure the Marine Corps 
remains the Nation's crisis response force while modernizing and 
optimizing the fleet to meet the challenges of the future operating 
environment. To provide an example of this evolution,

      Between 1990 and 2015, CH-53 Active component Marine 
Heavy Lift Helicopter Squadrons (HMH) fluctuated from nine to ten, to 
nine, to ten, to eight.

      Between 2011 to 2014, MV-22 Active component Marine 
Medium Tiltrotor Squadrons (VMM) fluctuated from 18 to 16 to 18.

    FD modernization optimized Marine Aviation to operate from austere, 
distributed locations and across extended distances while providing 
cutting-edge advantages to the naval expeditionary force through the 
six functions of Marine Aviation which consists of Offensive Air 
Support, Anti-Air Warfare, Assault Support, Air Reconnaissance, 
Electronic Warfare, and Control of Aircraft and Missiles. Marine 
Aviation is manned, trained, and equipped to conduct the six functions 
and is integral to tomorrow's Marine Air-Ground Task Force (MAGTF), 
bringing lethal, agile, and sustainable capabilities to compete with, 
deter, and--if necessary--defeat our Nation's adversaries.
    The Marine Corps is not divesting of any of its assault support 
aircraft. We are continuing to purchase the AAO for the MV-22 (359 of 
360 funded). The current AAO will ensure enough MV-22 aircraft are 
available to support its program lifecycle with 16 squadrons of 10 
aircraft each. Within INDOPACOM, a quarter of these medium lift assault 
support squadrons have been and will continue to be permanently 
stationed forward. These MV-22 aircraft numbers will be supplemented 
with those operating from amphibious warfare ships as Marine 
Expeditionary Units are assigned to the combatant commander.
    Similarly, the Marine Corps AAO for the CH-53K is 200 aircraft. 
This platform is the only marinized heavy-lift helicopter in the DOD in 
development or production and provides a greater payload capability for 
Assault Support than any current or emerging rotorcraft at sea level 
and high-altitude conditions at great ranges. Achieving Initial 
Operational Capability in April 2022, the CH-53K was approved for Full 
Rate Production in December 2022 and plans to deploy for the first CH-
53K MEU detachment in fiscal year 2025. The CH-53K provides critical 
expeditionary organic heavy-lift sustainment and mobility capability to 
the MAGTF, Joint Force, JFMCC, and COCOM. The USMC continues to analyze 
the heavy-lift requirement to support the stand-in force as part of 
force modernization.
    To achieve our goals in the INDOPACOM AOR, the Marine Corps 
activated a second INDOPACOM Active Duty KC-130 squadron, VMGR-153, 
located at Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Kaneohe Bay. In conjunction 
with VMGR-152 and its 16 KC-130 at MCAS Iwakuni, this additional 
squadron expands fixed wing assault support capacity within INDOPACOM.
    The Marine Corps continuously examines capacity and capability to 
support anticipated global force management requirements, maintain 
mandated response forces, and sustain service level training exercises, 
MAGTF training requirements and pilot development balanced with 
deployment-to-dwell. Current assault support squadrons are manned, 
trained, and equipped to execute their assigned tasking in support of 
the Marine Corps and Joint force.
                        navy strategy documents
    174. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, during the May 2022 
Department of the Navy posture hearing, I asked you to ensure the Navy 
provided more explicit references to its role support EABO and SIF in 
its strategy documents and doctrine. I highlighted the need for Navy 
support to ensure Force Design 2030's success in an op-ed later that 
year. Can you provide a list of every Navy strategy document or 
doctrinal publication produced since May 2022 that lists EABO and SIF, 
including where those concepts are mentioned in the documents?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy was a co-author of the Expeditionary 
Advanced Base Operations (EABO) concept and is keenly interested in its 
implementation. Leveraging land forces to support our Fleet Commanders' 
fight for sea control is a key focus of the concept, and it serves as 
an important enabler for Navy's Distributed Maritime Operations (DMO).
    I released Navigation Plan 2022 to the Fleet on 26 July 2022. This 
document outlines how the U.S. Navy will build, maintain, train, and 
equip a dominant naval force to strengthen strategic partnerships, 
deter conflict, and if called upon, help win the Nation's wars. 
Navigation Plan 2022 aligns Navy's vision with the 2022 National 
Defense Strategy and discusses how the Navy is uniquely positioned to 
strengthen integrated deterrence. On page 7, Navigation Plan 2022 
describes how Navy will leverage the concepts for Stand-In Forces (SIF) 
and EABO (among others) to persist forward, prevail in conflict, and 
end hostilities on favorable U.S. terms.
    Navy Tactical Techniques and Procedures (NTTP) 3-10.1 Maritime 
Expeditionary Security Force Operations, published January 2023, 
discusses support to SIF in section 1.5 (pages 1-2) and Navy Warfare 
Publication 3-26, Protection of Forces at the Operational Level of War, 
published February 2023, discusses support to EABO in section 8.14.1 
(pages 8-18).
                           arctic operations
    175. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Gilday, the January 2021 the Navy 
released Blue Arctic, which outlined its Arctic strategy. ``Russia is 
investing heavily to enhance its Arctic defense and economic sectors, 
with a resultant multilayered militarization of its northern flank,'' 
the document states. ``By modernizing its military capabilities and 
posture--particularly the Northern Fleet--Russia aims to improve 
command and control, infrastructure, and joint force employment to 
project power and defend its northern approaches.'' The blueprint also 
states the Department will take a tailored approach when considering 
permanently stationed forces, rotational forces, and temporary forces, 
pre-positioned equipment and stocks, and basing infrastructure across 
the region. The blueprint also states that the Department will enhance 
military education, training and exercises with allies and partners in 
and around the Arctic. It has been 2 years since this document was 
released and it is difficult to tell what investments the Navy has made 
to execute this strategy. Can you provide a detailed list, referencing 
provisions in the fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Acts and the fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 
2023 Appropriations Acts, of investments the Navy has made to execute 
its Arctic strategy?
    Admiral Gilday. The Navy continues to make investments to execute 
the Blue Arctic strategy, per the following provisions of the fiscal 
year 2022 and 2023 National Defense Authorization Acts and 
Appropriations Acts:

R-1 Line Item 26, PE 0603801N, Innovative Naval Prototype Advanced 
Technology Development

Arctic Mobile Observing System (AMOS)

    Fiscal year 2022 $3.457 million

      Deploy next-generation AMOS gliders and buoys to assess 
design changes and upgraded performance. Demonstrate Arctic-hardened 
Unmanned Underwater Vehicle (UUV) capabilities under Arctic sea ice. 
Perform 2 month persistence test of full AMOS system.

    Fiscal year 2023 $4.480 million

      Construct, deploy and test Arctic-hardened ice gateway 
buoys with integrated meteorological sensor subsystems for final Arctic 
Node system test. Construct, deploy and test persistence of AMOS floats 
and gliders with two-way communication capabilities. Deploy and test 
performance of very low acoustic frequency source. Deploy complete AMOS 
node (buoys and UUVs) for final program demonstration.

R-1 Line Item 14, PE 0602792N, Innovative Naval Prototype Applied 
Research

Arctic Mobile Observing System (AMOS)

    Fiscal year 2022 $6.446 million

      Model under ice communications to enable sustained and 
persistent communications in the Arctic using gliders and floats. 
Evaluate & assess network Command & Control (C2) & power strategies.

    Fiscal year 2023 $8.320 million

      Evaluate performance of very low frequency acoustic 
sources for under-ice navigation system and glider communication and 
evaluate performance of C2, satellite and radio communication 
strategies for AMOS components in the Arctic environment.

R-1 Line Item 9, PE 0602435N, Ocean Warfighting Environment Applied 
Research

Marine Meteorology Applied Research

    Fiscal year 2022 $0.500 million

      Support improvements in numerical models of the 
atmosphere that will enable more skillful forecasts of Arctic weather 
at longer lead times.

    Fiscal year 2023 $0.500 million

      Implement new techniques to increase the predictability 
of Arctic cyclones at longer lead times based on results from prior 
basic research initiatives.

Physical Oceanography Applied Research

    Fiscal year 2022 $0.800 million

      Support the collection of additional Arctic observations 
under the International Arctic Buoy Program to improve high-latitude 
forecasts capability and understand the role of observations in Arctic 
predictability.

    Fiscal year 2023 $1.800 million

      Develop new autonomous systems to enable persistent 
observations of the maritime Arctic, including sea ice thickness, upper 
ocean heat content and stratification, and Arctic Ocean circulation 
through augmentation of ice-tethered profilers with new sensors.

R-1 Line Item 2, PE 0601153N, Defense Research Sciences

Marine Meteorology

    Fiscal year 2022 $2.000 million

      Explore the role of Arctic clouds on cyclone development 
and the predictability of high-impact Arctic weather events. Perform 
phenomenological and predictability studies of the structure and 
evolution of Arctic cyclones, polar lows, and polar vortices.

    Fiscal year 2023 $2.100 million

      Support research to better understand the role of the 
stratosphere in subseasonal to seasonal variability and predictability 
of Arctic weather systems. Study the potential for new observations to 
improve Arctic forecasting and prediction.

Physical Oceanography

    Fiscal year 2022 $5.700 million

      Support basic research studies of critical environmental 
processes in the Arctic, including the mechanics and dynamics of sea 
ice, changes in the stratification and circulation of the Arctic ocean, 
and the processes that control the seasonal cycle of sea ice cover in 
the Arctic Ocean.

    Fiscal year 2023 $4.500 million

      Enhance our understanding of changes in the Arctic 
physical environment through an expansion of observational sensors and 
systems deployed on and below the sea ice over the Arctic Ocean. 
Complete a multi-investigator study of sea ice rheology to inform 
future numerical models of sea ice for use in Arctic System Models.

Ocean Acoustics

    Fiscal year 2022 $0.750 million

      Support studies of acoustic propagation across the 
Beaufort Gyre using observations collected during the Coordinated 
Arctic Acoustic Transmission Experiment.

    Fiscal year 2023 $1.600 million

      Explore the use of acoustics for ocean thermometry 
through initiation of the High Arctic Acoustic Thermometry and 
Soundscapes (HiAATS) project.
                           shipbuilding plan
    176. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, the 30-year plan makes 
it clear that the Navy has no intention of meeting the 31-amphibious 
ship statutory requirement. As the law states, ``the naval combat 
forces of the Navy shall include not less than 11 operational aircraft 
carriers, and not less than 31 operational amphibious warfare ships of 
which not less than 10 shall be amphibious assault ships.'' Why are you 
violating the law?
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes that will support our 
marines and sailors for decades to come. The Chief of Naval Operations 
submitted the Battle Force Ship Assessment and Requirements (BFSAR) to 
Congress in June 2023. I recently wrote to you to State my commitment 
to executing the law. The DON is now engaged in formulation of the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget, which will be submitted to 
Congress early next year, followed by the fiscal year 2025 30-year 
Shipbuilding Plan.

    177. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, why does your 30-year 
shipbuilding plan project to never meet the legal requirement for 31 
amphibious ships?
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes that will support our 
marines and sailors for decades to come. The Chief of Naval Operations 
submitted the Battle Force Ship Assessment and Requirements (BFSAR) to 
Congress in June 2023. I recently wrote to you to State my commitment 
to executing the law. The DON is now engaged in formulation of the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget, which will be submitted to 
Congress early next year, followed by the fiscal year 2025 30-year 
Shipbuilding Plan.

    178. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, when will you appear 
before the Senate Armed Services Committee with a plan to adhere to the 
legal requirement to maintain 31 amphibious ships in the United States 
Navy?
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes that will support our 
marines and sailors for decades to come. The Chief of Naval Operations 
submitted the Battle Force Ship Assessment and Requirements (BFSAR) to 
Congress in June 2023. I recently wrote to you to State my commitment 
to executing the law. The DON is now engaged in formulation of the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget, which will be submitted to 
Congress early next year, followed by the fiscal year 2025 30-year 
Shipbuilding Plan.

    179. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, Congress has given you 
multi-ship procurement authorities. However over the past three NDAAs, 
amphibious ships are not being procured with this cost-saving 
authority. Why are you not using multi-ship procurement authorities to 
purchase the required amphibious ships?
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes that will support our 
marines and sailors for decades to come. The Chief of Naval Operations 
submitted the Battle Force Ship Assessment and Requirements (BFSAR) to 
Congress in June 2023. I recently wrote to you to State my commitment 
to executing the law. The DON is now engaged in formulation of the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget, which will be submitted to 
Congress early next year, followed by the fiscal year 2025 30-year 
Shipbuilding Plan.

    180. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Del Toro, the Marine Expeditionary 
Unit does not exist without Navy amphibious ships. In the fiscal year 
2023 NDAA, Congress established in law a minimum number of amphibious 
ships the Navy must maintain--31. 10 must be ``big deck'' LHAs and 21 
must be LPDs. Several Navy and DOD studies informed this number yet, 
surprisingly, the Navy's fiscal year 2024 budget treats this 
requirement like a suggestion under the auspices of conducting yet 
another study to determine what the requirement is. The Navy's new 30-
year shipbuilding plan, which was not released with the budget, makes 
it even clearer that the Navy has no intention of following the law. 
Under all three alternatives, the Navy never once meets the legal 
requirement of 31 ships over the next 30 years. Marines cannot be the 
Nation's expeditionary force in readiness without the Navy amphibious 
ships required. In April 2022, the Department of the Navy could not 
sortie an Amphibious Ready Group/Marine Expeditionary Unit (ARG/MEU) 
early in response to a request from then United States European Command 
Commander General Todd Wolters because the Navy didn't have enough 
amphibious ships. In February 2023, an ARG/MEU could not deploy to 
assist with earthquake response in Turkey because there were not enough 
amphibious ships although marines were ready to deploy. Combatant 
commander demand for ARG/MEUs is high but the Navy's commitment to 
build and maintain the minimum number of amphibious ships required by 
law is low. Your 30-year shipbuilding plan doesn't meet the demand. 
What is your plan to comply with the law to ensure ARG/MEUs are 
available when the Nation needs them?
    Secretary Del Toro. Admiral Gilday, General Berger and I agree on 
the requirement for 31 amphibious ships, and we are committed to 
ensuring we meet this requirement and doing so in a timely manner, but 
with a capable, sustainable mix of ship classes that will support our 
marines and sailors for decades to come. The Chief of Naval Operations 
submitted the Battle Force Ship Assessment and Requirements (BFSAR) to 
Congress in June 2023. I recently wrote to you to State my commitment 
to executing the law. The DON is now engaged in formulation of the 
President's fiscal year 2025 budget, which will be submitted to 
Congress early next year, followed by the fiscal year 2025 30-year 
Shipbuilding Plan.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

                              ----------                              


                        THURSDAY, APRIL 20, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                            Washington, DC.

   UNITED STATES INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND AND UNITED STATES FORCES KOREA

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:30 a.m. in room 
SD-G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Peters, Duckworth, 
Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, 
Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Senator Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets to receive 
testimony from Admiral John Aquilino, Commander of the United 
States Indo-Pacific Command and General Paul LaCamera, the 
Commander of United States Forces Korea. Gentlemen, thank you 
for your service to the Nation and please convey our thanks to 
the men and women serving under your commands.
    This is a critical time for our forces in the Indo-Pacific. 
China's ambition in the region continues to grow, as does its 
aggressive behavior. Chinese leadership seeks greater power 
influence around the world, and it is leveraging a wide range 
of military, economic, and political pressures against its 
neighbors to advance these goals.
    As our defense leaders have made clear, the United States 
does not seek conflict with China, and strategic competition is 
not an inevitable march to conflict. America has long been a 
Pacific nation, and we have deep economic and security 
interests in the region.
    During today's hearing I look forward to discussing how our 
forces can continue to improve our military posture and 
capabilities while also supporting whole-of-government efforts 
to compete effectively in the region.
    To that end, the Defense Department recently raised its 
Joint Concept for Competing, which makes clear the objective of 
China and our adversaries is to, in their words, ``win without 
fighting.'' The concept warns that if we do not adapt to the 
realities of long-term competition, the United States risks 
ceding strategic influence, advantage, and leverage while 
preparing for a war that never occurs. I am interested to hear 
from our witnesses how they plan to utilize the joint 
capabilities in the Indo-Pacific and Korea to address these 
challenges.
    Recognizing the challenges in the Indo-Pacific, President 
Biden has requested a considerable funding increase for 
INDOPACOM in the fiscal year 2024 budget. This includes $9.1 
billion for the Pacific Deterrence Initiative, or PDI, to 
strengthen the posture, infrastructure, and capabilities of our 
forces. In addition, this PDI investment will help build the 
capabilities of our allies and partners through military-to-
military training exercises, freedom of navigation operations, 
and infrastructure improvements. The PDI request is a subset of 
broader department-wide investments to modernize and equip the 
force, much of which is focused on China as the Department's 
pacing challenge.
    Our comparative advantage over China remains our network of 
allies and partners in the region and globally. I am encouraged 
by the progress made through AUKUS, our military partnership 
with Australia and the United Kingdom, which is serving as an 
important test case for potential future partnership. The 
maturation of the Quadrilateral Security Dialogue, or Quad, 
involving the United States, Japan, India, and Australia, also 
presents a valuable framework.
    Further, we have recently seen momentum in a number of 
other relationships throughout the region, including our new 
basing agreement with the Philippines, historic cooperation 
announcements between South Korea and Japan, and a remarkable 
transformation in Japan's new defense strategy. It is my hope 
that these developments will provide more opportunities to 
engage other regional powers.
    However, the most dangerous flashpoint that could turn our 
competition with China into a conflict remains Taiwan. In the 
past several years we have seen a surge of aggressive Chinese 
military exercises around Taiwan's airspace and territorial 
waters, as well as an escalation in combative language from 
Beijing. The world has a right to be concerned.
    To help Taiwan develop its own defense capabilities, 
consistent with the Taiwan Relations Act, the 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) included a package of security 
assistance tools ranging from foreign military financing to 
Presidential drawdown authority. I understand INDOPACOM is 
continuing to help Taiwan develop its training and warfighting 
concepts, and I expect Congress will continue to support this 
effort. Admiral Aquilino, faced with these wide-ranging 
challenges, I would like to know your assessment of INDOPACOM's 
preparedness to carry out the United States' strategy in the 
region.
    As we seek to more effectively compete with China, we must 
also manage the threat posed by North Korea. North Korea has 
conducted nearly 2 dozen missile tests this year, including 
ICBMs [intercontinental ballistic missiles] and cruise 
missiles, and has reportedly stopped its routine military-to-
military communication with South Korea. We also know that Kim 
Jong-un continues to view nuclear weapons as the ultimate 
deterrence against foreign intervention, and intends to gain 
international acceptance as a nuclear arms state.
    The goal of United States policy remains the 
denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, but we are not taking 
an all-or-nothing approach. Instead, the Biden administration 
has pursued what it describes as a calibrated, practical 
approach to diplomacy with the North, with the goal of 
eliminating the threat to the United States. This approach will 
require smart and firm engagement with the North Koreans, but 
more importantly, it requires coordination with our allies and 
partners in the region, particular South Korea and Japan. 
General LaCamera, I would ask for your views on the partnership 
between the United States, Japan, South Korea, and other 
regional partners in addressing North Korea's destabilizing 
activity. I would also like to know how your forces are 
maintaining readiness through training exercises with their 
South Korean counterparts.
    I want to again thank the witnesses and look forward to 
your testimony. Let me now recognize the Ranking Member, 
Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I want to 
thank both of our witnesses for being here today.
    The Department of Defense's (DOD's) most pressing task 
remains ensuring deterrence of conflict in the Indo-Pacific. 
Failure to prevent aggression there would have enormous 
consequences. But we have already seen deterrence fail in 
Europe. We did not deter Putin from invading Ukraine, and not 
doing so has cost the global economy over $1 trillion thus far, 
brought untold suffering to the Ukrainian people, and 
heightened the threats under which our European allies live. 
Our intelligence community predicts that a deterrence failure 
in the Indo-Pacific would be much, much worse.
    We are entering a particularly dangerous period. Xi Jinping 
is the most powerful and ruthless leader in China since 
Chairman Mao. We know Xi has aggressive intent, and he is 
rapidly increasing China's military capability.
    His ally, Kim Jong-un, has also improved North Korea's 
capabilities to threaten the continental United States and our 
allies. The North Korean dictator has already provided 
significant weaponry to Russia's failing fight in Ukraine. We 
also know that Xi and Putin have signed up to a so-called ``No 
Limits'' partnership.
    We have a lot of work to do. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
request before us is the last one in which significant programs 
and activities could be funded and fielded in time for 2027, 
the year by which Xi has told the Chinese military to be 
prepared to take Taiwan. That is less than 4 short years away.
    Although a portion of the Pentagon is operating on a 
wartime tempo when it comes to supporting Ukraine, I cannot say 
the same for their focus on China.
    Because this Committee felt that our defense strategy was 
not being implemented fast enough, the Pacific Deterrence 
Initiative was created and requires the Indo-Pacific Combatant 
Commander to provide an independent assessment of resources 
required to meet the challenge in that region.
    This initiative has allowed us to start moving our policies 
and investments in the right direction, but this forward motion 
has come in fits and starts. For example, last year, Congress 
authorized and appropriated an additional $100 million for 
planning and design activities in the Western Pacific. These 
funds were meant to expand our basing and logistics footprint 
in places such as Yap in Micronesia, Tinian in the Marianas 
Islands, and the Philippines, and elsewhere.
    Once again, these initiatives are not fully funded in this 
budget. At this pace, it would take 25 years to modernize our 
basing posture in the Western Pacific, compared to what we did 
in 5 years in Europe through the European Deterrence 
Initiative.
    Similarly, low-cost and high-value investments for allies 
and partners remain unfunded. We still cannot effectively share 
communications and intelligence with allies and partners.
    These are just a few of the important enabling capabilities 
we need in the Indo-Pacific. We need much more. For instance, 
the Pentagon still seems unserious about building the Guam 
Defense System in a timely fashion. There are key space, cyber, 
electronic warfare, and command and control technologies we 
must accelerate as well.
    This Committee recognizes the seriousness of the 
competition. That is why this Congress led the bipartisan 
charge to increase the defense budget in last year's cycle, 
with a set of investments tailored to our most significant 
operational challenges in the Indo-Pacific. I am hopeful we can 
do so again this year. We really have to do so again this year.
    Allow me to repeat: the window during which this Committee 
can authorize significant capability to deter China in the near 
term is closing. The year 2027 is a few short years away, if 
that is the accurate projection. I am not convinced we have 
treated that date with the adequate seriousness thus far. We 
will need to prioritize our defense investments more 
effectively here in Congress.
    So, I thank our witnesses. You have quite a job ahead of 
you, and we appreciate what you do and want to work with you. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Admiral 
Aquilino, please.

 STATEMENT OF ADMIRAL JOHN C. AQUILINO, USN, COMMANDER, UNITED 
                  STATES INDO-PACIFIC COMMAND

    Admiral Aquilino. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to discuss the Indo-Pacific region with you here 
today.
    I deeply appreciate your continuous support to all of our 
servicemembers, Government civilians, and their families within 
the Indo-Pacific Command. It is my distinct honor and privilege 
to serve alongside these brave men and women who selflessly 
execute our deterrence mission and defense missions every day. 
Your support is instrumental in our ability to accomplish these 
missions, but there is more to do, and we must act with a 
greater sense of urgency.
    Every day, USINDOPACOM works tirelessly to prevent 
conflict, not provoke it. War in INDOPACOM is not inevitable, 
and it is not imminent. However, this decade presents a period 
of increased risk, as illustrated by a variety of things. 
First, the illegal, illegitimate war by Russia in Ukraine. 
Second, the largest and fastest military buildup and malign 
behavior of the PRC [People's Republic of China], including 
their ``No Limits'' relationship and partnership with Russia. 
Third, the continuous missile provocations and nuclear rhetoric 
by the DPRK [Democratic People's Republic of Korea], and in 
this theater the threat of violent extremism is also present.
    Our National Defense Strategy identifies the PRC as the 
most consequential strategic competitor to the United States, 
and the only competitor capable of combining its economic, 
diplomatic, military, and technological capabilities to mount a 
sustained challenge to the rules-based international order.
    ``Seize the Initiative'' is INDOPACOM's approach to execute 
the National Defense Strategy and accomplish our defense 
priorities--defend the Homeland, deter strategic attacks, deter 
aggression, and build a resilient joint force. By design, this 
approach prevents conflict through integrated deterrence. It 
ensure we can fight and win should deterrence fail. And it 
provides the Secretary of Defense and the President with 
options for any contingency.
    There are four pillars to our approach. First is a robust 
theater posture; second, a joint operations campaign comprised 
of lethal, persistent forces forward; third, technologically 
superior capabilities to maintain our warfighting advantages in 
the near, mid, and long term; and fourth, an enhanced network 
of allies and partners that which any of our challengers do not 
have. We respectfully request your continued support for these 
four focus areas, and recognize that any delay in one area 
directly affects all the others and puts the overall success of 
our deterrence efforts at risk.
    Again, conflict in the Indo-Pacific region is not 
inevitable, but we cannot rest on our past accomplishments to 
secure a future peace. Security challenges threaten our very 
way of life as well as the peace, prosperity, and stability of 
the rules-based international order that has enabled that peace 
for over 80 years.
    The investments we make today will allow future generations 
to enjoy the same legacy of liberty our ancestors entrusted to 
us, but we do not have the luxury of time. We must act now to 
preserve this free and open Indo-Pacific.
    Chairman, Ranking Member Wicker, thanks again for the 
opportunity to appear today, and I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Admiral Aquilino follows:]

             Prepared Statement by Admiral John C. Aquilino
                    introduction / opening statement
    Chairman, Ranking Member, and distinguished Members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you to 
discuss the Indo-Pacific region. I also want to extend my thanks for 
your continuous support to the men and women of United States Indo-
Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM) and their families. It is my distinct 
honor and privilege to serve alongside the dedicated soldiers, sailors, 
airmen, marines, guardians, special operators, guardsmen, and civilian 
warriors that execute our deterrence and defense missions selflessly 
every day. Your support is instrumental in our ability to accomplish 
these missions. But there is much more to do, and we must act with a 
greater sense of urgency.
    The men and women of USINDOPACOM work tirelessly every day to 
prevent conflict in this region, not to provoke it. War is not 
inevitable. However, this decade presents a period of increased risk as 
illustrated by Russia's illegitimate, unprovoked war in Ukraine; the 
People's Republic of China (PRC)'s nuclear and conventional buildup; 
the PRC's malign behavior, including its ``No Limits'' expanding 
partnership with Russia; the Democratic People's Republic of Korea 
(DPRK)'s continued missile provocations and nuclear rhetoric; and the 
risk of violent extremism. Our National Defense Strategy (NDS) 
identifies the PRC as the most consequential strategic competitor to 
the United States and the only competitor capable of combining its 
economic, diplomatic, military, and technological capabilities to mount 
a sustained challenge to the rules-based international order.
    Seize the Initiative is USINDOPACOM'S approach to implement the NDS 
and accomplish our defense priorities--defend the homeland, deter 
strategic attacks, deter aggression, and build a resilient joint force. 
By design, this approach prevents conflict through integrated 
deterrence, ensures we can fight and win should deterrence fail, and 
provides the Secretary of Defense and President with options for any 
contingency. It aims to deliver a robust theater posture; campaign with 
lethal, persistent forces forward; technologically superior 
capabilities to maintain our warfighting advantages in the near, mid, 
and long-term; and stronger relationships with our allies, partners, 
and friends.
    1)  A Distributed Force Posture supports all elements of the joint 
force, enables our ability to seamlessly operate with our allies and 
partners, and demonstrates U.S. commitment to a stable and peaceful 
security environment. The access agreements and military construction 
(MILCON) requests outlined in our Independent Assessment (1254 Report) 
prioritize the locations and the required capacity at each. Given the 
time needed to complete the planning, design, and construction of each 
project, we must look for ways to accelerate our actions today to be 
prepared for future contingencies.
    2)  A Joint and Combined Operations Campaign synchronizes full 
spectrum military operations in all domains to build warfighting 
advantage and accelerate our ability to respond immediately. Persistent 
forces positioned west of the International Date Line (IDL), combined 
with our exercise and experimentation program, and synchronized with 
our allies and partners is an effective means to deter potential 
adversary aggression. Our globally coordinated efforts allow us to 
compete with our security challengers and positions the joint force to 
be able to rapidly transition from competition, to crisis, to conflict 
if required. This persistent, forward force operates throughout the 
region with our partners every day to demonstrate our commitment to the 
rules based international order and to provide options for our civilian 
leadership.
    3)  Delivering Advanced Warfighting Capabilities that outpace our 
challengers immediately improves our lethality and enhances our 
deterrence mission. The Guam Defense System (GDS) is our top homeland 
defense priority and our vision for the future includes offensive fires 
as well as robust theater logistics. Capabilities that enhance our 
command and control decision superiority in the near term are of equal 
importance. We must maintain the ability to safely operate in contested 
space, sustain our target quality, real-time battlespace awareness, and 
deliver advanced multi-domain joint fires munitions utilizing a Joint 
Fires Network (JFN) while integrating our allies and partners. The 1254 
Report provides specificity on the capabilities and munitions to 
enhance combat credible deterrence in the near and mid-term.
    4)  A Robust Network of Allies and Partners, built on the strength 
of our shared interests, is our greatest advantage. USINDOPACOM is 
strengthening all layers of our security network: allies, multilateral 
arrangements, partners, friends, and the Five Eyes nations. We execute 
security cooperation activities, training, and exercises to strengthen 
those relationships, build partner capacity, and enhance 
interoperability. Security arrangements such as AUKUS (Australia, 
United Kingdom, and the United States) and other mini and multilateral 
opportunities allow us to pull together like-minded nations to improve 
our training. While not a military alliance, the Quad diplomatic 
partnership between Japan, Australia, India, and the United States 
enhances regional security and stability. We continue to develop our 
Mission Partner Environment (MPE) to facilitate information sharing, 
coordinate our operations, and enable high-end weapon system 
integration.
    Advancing these four, critical areas are mutually reinforcing and 
each is foundational to USINDOPACOM's ability to deter and defend. 
Defense of the homeland and deterrence of threats in the Indo-Pacific 
requires significant, sustained investments, supported by a strong 
industrial base, reliable supply chains, and predictable budgets. We 
respectfully request your continued support to deliver the end states 
of our four focus areas, recognizing that any delay in one area 
directly affects the others and puts at risk the overall success of our 
deterrence efforts.
    USINDOPACOM thanks the Congress, the American people, and our 
partners for their continued support. We must act together and with 
urgency to maintain the rules-based international order that delivers 
the peace, stability, and prosperity of a free and open Indo-Pacific.
                       key adversarial challenges
    As stated in the 2022 U.S. National Security Strategy, the Indo-
Pacific is the epicenter of 21st century geopolitics. The region 
features authoritarian regimes using military threats to subvert the 
existing rules-based international order while seeking to undermine 
confidence in U.S. commitment to the region. The PRC is taking 
increasingly coercive actions to reshape the Indo-Pacific region in its 
favor, supported by a rapidly modernizing People's Liberation Army 
(PLA) that is executing the largest military buildup since WWII. 
Russia's irresponsible behavior, exemplified by its illegal, 
illegitimate invasion of Ukraine, continues to pose an acute threat. 
The DPRK is increasing its bellicose behavior through development of 
ballistic missile and nuclear technology threatening the U.S. Homeland 
and placing regional partners at increased risk. Violent extremism also 
remains a threat in this theater.
People's Republic of China (PRC)
  Strategic Intent
    The PRC aspires to become the world's leading power in its drive 
toward ``national rejuvenation,'' to replace the existing international 
order with a system that benefits authoritarian regimes at the expense 
of all other nations. Militarily, the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has 
directed the PLA to develop the capability to seize Taiwan by force and 
surpass the United States as the dominant power in the Pacific. The PRC 
further seeks a network of overseas military installations and 
expeditionary capabilities to expand the PLA's ability to project power 
globally.
    The CCP uses all elements of national power to create an 
international environment favorable to authoritarian regimes that 
furthers their totalitarian reach. The PRC is implementing a trifecta 
of global initiatives to reshape international norms for development, 
trade, and security under the Global Security Initiative (GSI), Global 
Civilization Initiative (GCI), and the Global Development Initiative 
(GDI). While each includes deceptively attractive language and 
concepts, they suffer from lack of specificity, vague implementation 
plans, and unclear goals allowing for PRC interpretation and 
enforcement. These initiatives seek to undermine the existing fair and 
respected international architecture and replace it with a system that 
encourages repressive, authoritarian governance and protectionist 
economics that distort markets by avoiding openness and transparency.
    CCP representatives exploit, distort, and misrepresent 
international law for their own benefit and at the expense of all other 
nations. The CCP is attempting to portray troubling aspects of its own 
domestic legal framework as globally accepted international law to 
assert regional dominance. Domestic laws such as the Anti-Secession 
Law, China Coast Guard Law, Maritime Traffic Safety Law, Civil-Military 
fusion legislation including the National Defense Transportation Law, 
and so-called emergency fast-track laws provide the CCP with the 
domestic legal architecture to advance its ambitions and streamline 
political decisions under a veneer of international legal legitimacy. 
The CCP is also engaging in a large-scale campaign to influence media 
outlets around the world in an effort to advance their narratives while 
mischaracterizing or obfuscating facts.
  Military Modernization
    The PLA continues the largest, fastest, most comprehensive military 
buildup since World War II in both the conventional and strategic 
nuclear domains. In spite of economic and manufacturing challenges 
brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic, the accelerated pace at which the 
PLA has added advanced capabilities is concerning. In 2022 alone, the 
PLA added to its operational inventory 17 major warships, including 
four guided missile cruisers, three destroyers, five frigates, two 
attack submarines, and a large amphibious assault ship, plus scores of 
support and specialty ships. The air forces have doubled the production 
capability for its 5th Generation J-20 fighter with an estimated 150 of 
these aircraft now operational, many of them fielded last year. In 
2022, the PRC completed 64 successful space launches that placed at 
least 160 satellites into orbit. And perhaps most stunning of all, the 
PLA Rocket Force continues to massively expand its arsenal of 
conventional and nuclear missiles, building hundreds of silos for 
nuclear missiles and fielding several hundred ballistic and cruise 
missiles. This almost certainly includes a large number of hypersonic 
missiles, some of which may be nuclear-capable. The PRC may also be 
developing nuclear-armed hypersonic glide vehicles for use in a 
fractional orbital bombardment system (FOBS).
    The CCP has now directed 2027 as the target for the PLA to deliver 
the capabilities needed to counter the United States military in the 
Indo-Pacific and project power across the globe. In October 2022, the 
20th National Congress of the CCP set objectives focused on 
accelerating the PLA's modernization goals over the next 5 years, 
including strengthening its ``system of strategic deterrence.'' With 
the 14th Five-Year Plan, the Chinese government has doubled-down on 
multiple national strategies already being implemented to ensure China 
achieves a globally dominant position in the emerging technologies that 
it believes are necessary for enabling complex modern military 
operations. The PRC continues to target technology and talent around 
the world to secure these technologies in pursuit of advanced military 
capabilities.
    The PLA Navy (PLAN) consists of 8350 battle force ships and an 
additional 885 patrol combatants and craft. The PLAN is on track to 
deliver 440 battle force ships by 2030 including significant increases 
in aircraft carriers and major surface combatants. The PLAN continues 
to expand their area of maritime operations emphasizing the development 
of expeditionary capabilities enabling their global aspirations. While 
much of the world expects the PLA to build-out a large dedicated 
amphibious fleet for a potential Taiwan invasion, in the near-term, we 
see use of modified civilian roll-on/roll-off (RORO) ferries as a means 
of troop transport and logistics support.
    The PLA's aviation force is rapidly fielding technologically 
advanced, domestically built aircraft and a wide range of Unmanned 
Aerial Systems (UAS). More than half of its fighter force is 4th 
generation or better, a ratio quickly growing with the rapid fielding 
of its 5th generation J-20 stealth fighter. The PLA is also developing 
jet-powered and supersonic UAS systems, as well as stealth, Unmanned, 
Combat-Aerial Vehicles (UCAV).
    PLA ground forces have received equipment upgrades and project a 
new 4th generation main battle tank in the near future. The PLA 
increasingly incorporates amphibious military and civilian vessels in 
its ground forces' training for potential amphibious operations and has 
significantly increased the number and roles of a variety of 
helicopters.
    The PLA is developing a host of nuclear and conventionally armed 
long-range missiles and advanced weapons at a pace faster than 
expected. PLA Medium and Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles (MRBM/
IRBM), as well as Chinese cruise missiles can range United States 
bases, forces, and the homeland. The PRC continues developing longer 
range capabilities such as the DF-27 ballistic missile that will be 
able to reach targets well beyond the second-island chain. 
Additionally, China is developing hypersonic glide vehicles (HGVs) and 
a new generation of nuclear-armed mobile missiles that employ multiple 
independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs) with the intent to 
evade United States, ally, and partner missile defenses.
    The PLA is rapidly advancing its space and counter-space programs. 
In 2022, the PRC executed 64 space launches, probably meant to expand 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR), 
telecommunications, and navigation capabilities. For counter-space, the 
PRC is delivering capabilities that seek to deny use of our own space 
architecture despite their statements opposing the weaponization of 
space.
    The PRC's cyber capabilities deliver both gray zone coercion and an 
enabling function to achieve decisive military advantage. PLA cyber 
efforts remain focused on developing capabilities to enable warfare 
activities targeting United States and partner critical civilian 
electric, energy, and water infrastructure to generate chaos and 
disrupt military operations. The PLA also actively pursues espionage 
operations and intellectual property theft through targeted cyber 
operations.
    The PLA has embarked on a rapid and opaque expansion, 
modernization, and diversification of its nuclear forces. Construction 
of silo fields across northern China, coupled with modern ballistic-
missile submarines and the H-6N nuclear-capable, air-to-air refuelable 
bomber, underscore China's focus on developing a survivable, nuclear 
triad. The PRC has not declared an end goal nor acknowledged the scale 
of this nuclear force expansion. The PRC likely will possess at least 
1,000 deliverable nuclear warheads by 2030. This larger arsenal could 
provide the PRC with new options before and during a crisis or conflict 
to leverage nuclear weapons for coercive purposes, including military 
provocations against United States allies and partners in the region.
Destabilizing Actions
  Taiwan
    The PRC sees unification with Taiwan as ``indispensable for the 
realization of China's great rejuvenation'' and a top priority. To this 
end, the PRC uses all elements of national power, most notably a mix of 
military, economic, legal, information, and diplomatic tools, in 
pursuit of this goal. Beijing publicly claims a preference for peaceful 
unification over conflict; however, its consistent pressure tactics and 
coercive behavior demonstrates a significant disconnect between their 
words and their deeds.
    During the CCP's 20th Party Congress, Xi Jinping unequivocally 
stated China will never renounce the right to use force as a means to 
achieve unification with Taiwan. Such rhetoric accompanies a concerted 
effort to develop military capabilities the PRC sees as necessary to 
seize Taiwan by force.
    Beijing significantly increased its military pressure against 
Taiwan in 2022, in response to a perceived policy shift in United 
States-Taiwan political and military ties. Following the United States 
Speaker of the House's visit in August 2022, the PLA deployed its most 
capable assets around Taiwan and conducted ballistic missiles launches 
in a show of force. Since August, the PLA has normalized warship 
patrols around Taiwan and increased the number of military flights 
crossing into Taiwan's self-declared Air Defense Identification Zone. 
They have in effect erased the unofficial Taiwan Strait centerline, a 
mutually observed boundary designed to avoid unintended friction, to 
pressurize the people on the island.
  Unsafe Intercepts of U.S. and Allied Aircraft
    As Secretary Austin has noted, ``we've seen an alarming increase in 
the number of unsafe aerial intercepts'' of U.S. and allied aircraft 
throughout 2022. These included a February incident where a PLA Navy 
vessel directed a military-grade laser at an Australian P-8A patrol 
aircraft that could have permanently impaired the vision of the P-8A's 
crew. In May 2022, another Australian P-8A was intercepted by a PLA 
aircraft that maneuvered in front of the P-8A and ejected chaff into 
the Australian aircraft's engine. Days later, the Canadian armed forces 
issued a statement that PLA aircraft attempted to divert the flight 
path of one of their CP-140 long-range patrol craft, conducting a U.N. 
sanction enforcement mission, forcing the Canadian pilots to modify 
their flight path to avoid collision. Canada has noted such 
interactions are occurring with increased frequency. On December 21st, 
a US RC-135 surveillance aircraft, operating in international airspace 
was intercepted by a PLA fighter that unsafely maneuvered to within 20 
feet of the cockpit of the RC-135, forcing our aircraft to take evasive 
action to avoid a collision.
    All of these aircraft were operating in international airspace in 
accordance with international law when these dangerous intercepts 
occurred. In just over a year, the number of increasingly close 
intercepts against U.S. aircraft increased by 600 percent. Conducting 
destabilizing and coercive intercepts increases the potential for an 
accident, loss of life, or miscalculation.
  Line of Actual Control (LAC)
    Tensions between the PRC and India along the LAC, the de facto 
border between India and PRC, have remained high since a significant 
clash in June 2020, and an additional incident in December 2022. A 2021 
PRC land borders law that allows for greater PLA involvement in border 
security represents a continuation of PRC's ``lawfare'' strategy to 
justify military action in territorial disputes. China's consistent 
attempts to expand its border has resulted in two physical 
confrontations between PLA and Indian soldiers. The PLA has also 
significantly expanded its military infrastructure along the LAC to 
maintain pressure on India and better posture forces for future 
contingencies. These actions are designed to expand their borders and 
consolidate their gains. The PRC's provocative behavior creates 
instability and increases the risk of unintended incidents.
  Excessive Maritime Claims
    The PRC's expansive maritime claims in the South China Sea are 
inconsistent with international law as reflected in the 1982 United 
Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea. Yet the PRC continues its 
coercive activities to reinforce these legally baseless claims and 
undermine the rules-based international order. The PRC has militarized 
its South China Sea outposts to expand its military reach, arming these 
features with anti-ship and anti-aircraft missile systems, laser and 
jamming equipment, and fighter jets that threaten all nations operating 
nearby. The PRC continues to explore and exploit the region's vast 
natural resources, including hydrocarbons, fish stocks, and minerals, 
including those inside other nations' Exclusive Economic Zones (EEZ).
    The PRC uses domestic laws as justification to enforce its 
expansive maritime claims. In 2021, the PRC passed both a China Coast 
Guard (CCG) Law and a Maritime Traffic Safety Law (MTSL). The first 
authorizes its coast guard to fire upon or tow foreign ships it sees as 
violating China's domestic laws. The MTSL requires all specified 
vessels entering territorial sea areas ``under the jurisdiction of 
China'' to notify maritime authorities, carry required permits, and 
submit to Chinese command and supervision.
    The enforcement of these domestic measures intimidates South China 
Sea nations from enjoying their rights to natural resources in the 
exclusive economic zones and continental shelf while infringing upon 
rights and freedoms guaranteed under international law as reflected by 
the United Nations (U.N.) Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), a 
treaty to which the PRC is a party. These laws could provide the 
pretext for the use of force that could spark a wider conflict. More 
broadly, these laws and other unilateral actions, such as its annual, 
unilateral summer fishing ban, threaten China's neighbors and clearly 
illustrate an attempt to change the existing international order in its 
favor.
  High Altitude Balloons
    The February high altitude balloon incursion into United States 
territorial airspace, and similar incidents across the globe, 
demonstrated the CCP's intent to develop and deploy additional 
intelligence collection platforms. Such actions are in direct violation 
of the sovereignty of the nations overflown and further highlight the 
CCP's irresponsible behavior. This is a clear example of the disconnect 
between CCP words and actions.
  PRC-Russia Cooperation
    In February 2022, Chairman Xi and President Putin announced a ``no 
limits'' strategic partnership rooted in a common opposition for 
democratic systems and an international order both believe constrain 
their authoritarian governments. Just last month, Chairman Xi stood 
alongside President Putin in Moscow and jointly reiterated their mutual 
goal of a new world order. Xi once again failed to condemn Russia's 
unprovoked, illegal, and illegitimate invasion of Ukraine. CCP leaders 
and media continue to amplify Russian propaganda, and we diligently 
monitor the situation for any evidence of the PRC providing material 
aid. Additionally, Russia is transferring highly enriched uranium to 
the PRC, which will be used in fast-breeder reactors and could support 
the PRC's nuclear force expansion through the production of weapons-
grade plutonium. Militarily, the relationship has incrementally grown 
over the past decade. In 2022, the PLA participated in VOSTOK 22, a 
multinational Russian exercise, and the two countries conducted 
multiple combined naval and strategic bomber patrols. Some of those 
highly symbolic events occurred in the air and sea spaces around Japan 
and near Alaska and Guam. These developments are especially troubling 
given the PRC's ongoing nuclear and conventional military buildup. By 
the 2030's, for the first time in its history, the United States will 
face two major nuclear powers as strategic competitors and potential 
adversaries, creating new stresses on stability and new challenges for 
deterrence, assurance, and risk reduction.
Russia
  Strategic Intent
    Russia represents an acute threat that desires to maintain its 
status as a global power and influence by using all elements of 
national power. Russia seeks to upend the international order's status 
quo in favor of a multipolar system that advantages its authoritarian 
regime. Russia's illegal, illegitimate war against Ukraine is the most 
blatant example of its contravention of international law and norms. 
Moscow's ongoing support of Burma's military regime and its continued 
assistance to the DPRK, are less publicized but nonetheless concerning. 
Russia's actions are an attempt to demonstrate a global position of 
strength even in the midst of diplomatic, economic, and military 
struggles.
  Military Modernization
    Despite Russia's brutal war in Ukraine, Russia's updated 2022 Naval 
Doctrine prioritizes the Pacific region, establishes a primary goal of 
``strategic stability,'' and describes the Sea of Okhotsk as an ``area 
of existential importance,'' alongside Russian territorial seas and its 
EEZ. As such, Russia is upgrading strategic assets in the Eastern 
Military District. Such improvements are designed to bolster Russia's 
ability to threaten the United States and our allies, including Japan.
    In 2022, Russia transferred multiple naval assets to the Pacific 
including a Dolgorukiy II-class nuclear-armed, nuclear-powered 
ballistic missile submarine, a Severodvinsk-class nuclear-powered 
cruise missile submarine, and upgraded Kilo--class cruise missile-
capable diesel submarines. Another eight advanced cruise missile 
capable vessels will likely arrive before 2026. Armed with dual nuclear 
and conventional capable Kalibr cruise missiles and the Tsirkon 
hypersonic cruise missile (still in testing), the Russian Pacific Fleet 
is increasing its ability to threaten United States and allied land and 
maritime targets.
    Russia executed its quadrennial VOSTOK capstone exercise in early 
September 2022 with the naval component conducting simulated cruise 
missile and bomber strikes to message they are still capable of 
defending their far-eastern region.
    President Putin vowed to modernize Russia's nuclear forces, which 
he described as ``the main guarantee of our sovereignty and territorial 
integrity, strategic parity and the global balance of forces,'' and 
indicated the Sarmat Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) will 
enter service shortly.
Destabilizing Actions
  Power Projection
    In the Pacific, Russia increasingly relies on its Pacific Fleet, 
particularly its submarine force, to shoulder the burden of defense for 
Russia's eastern regions. The Pacific Fleet, long-range aviation 
forces, and strategic capabilities remain mostly unaffected by Russia's 
illegal war in Ukraine. We expect Moscow to use these forces to 
demonstrate Russian power and presence through expeditionary air and 
maritime operations that threaten the homelands of the United States 
and several of our allies.
  Bomber Patrols
    Russia continues to send strategic bomber patrols near United 
States airspace, having executed patrols near Alaska, Hawaii, and Guam 
in recent years. These patrols are meant to message Russia's ability to 
threaten the United States Homeland. Russian forces, which also 
routinely patrol airspace off the coast of Japan, are increasingly 
collaborating with the PLA to execute combined air patrols that 
regularly cross into Japan and the Republic of Korea's Air Defense 
Identification Zones (ADIZ), further threatening our allies.
  Naval Exercises
    Russia also employs its Navy to demonstrate reach and showcase some 
of its newest capabilities. In 2021, a large naval deployment operated 
in the vicinity of Hawaii for this very purpose, an event that could be 
repeated this year with some of the new capabilities recently fielded 
in the Pacific Fleet.
  Combined Exercises with the PRC
    The PRC participated in VOSTOK 2022 sending more than 2,000 troops, 
300 vehicles, 21 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters, and 3 ships. 
Additionally, the two countries also conducted multiple combined air 
patrols, and naval exercises. While the increase of combined military 
maneuvers does not translate to an integrated force, deepening 
cooperation poses an increased risk to the United States and our 
partners in the region.
  Arms Transfers from DPRK
    Russia is procuring ammunition and other military equipment from 
the DPRK, which has significant experience obfuscating shipments in the 
face of international sanctions. Russia, through its private military 
company the Wagner Group, has reportedly purchased infantry rockets and 
missiles from North Korea to restock its diminished reserves.
  Territorial Dispute with Japan
    The territorial dispute over the southern Kuril Islands / Northern 
Territories dominates Russia-Japan relations. In December 2021, Russia 
positioned Bastion coastal defense missile systems on Matua Island to 
underline Moscow's firm stance on disputed territory with Japan. These 
missiles are part of a newly formed permanent missile brigade, which 
demonstrated live-fire events as part of VOSTOK 22.
Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK)
  Strategic Intent
    The DPRK prioritizes regime security above all else and views its 
strategic weapons programs and vast conventional military force as keys 
to deterring external aggression and invasion. Pyongyang's forces pose 
a threat to United States and Republic of Korea (ROK) forces on the 
peninsula, to Japan, and across the Indo-Pacific. Its investment in 
ballistic missiles, nuclear technologies, and other weapons of mass 
destruction (WMD), are in direct violation of U.N. Security Council 
resolutions, and consistent with the regime's goal of achieving 
strategic deterrence. Underscoring this point is DPRK leader Kim Jong 
Un's December 2022 call for an exponential increase in the country's 
nuclear arsenal and mass production of tactical nuclear weapons. In 
September 2022, the DPRK passed a law reaffirming its self-proclaimed 
status as a nuclear power and establishing conditions for nuclear use 
and rejecting de-nuclearization.
  Military Modernization
    The DPRK is prioritizing upgrades to its nuclear and other WMD 
programs as well as its conventional military capabilities. The 
majority of Pyongyang's modernization efforts focuses on its WMD 
forces, underscored by an unprecedented number of missile tests in 
2022. The DPRK is increasing its missile inventory and is testing new, 
more advanced ballistic and cruise missile systems capable of launching 
from diverse platforms, including sea-based and rail-launched systems. 
In 2022, the regime conducted a test flight of the Hwasong-17 ICBM, 
which it claimed demonstrated the capability to strike the entire 
continental United States with nuclear weapons. The DPRK is also 
testing a series of increasingly capable short range missiles that 
Pyongyang claims are capable of delivering tactical nuclear warheads. 
Kim Jong Un appears ready to conduct the first nuclear test since 2017.
    The DPRK's modernization of its conventional forces is muted in 
comparison to its WMD force developments. The naval modernization 
program is pursuing submarine-launched ballistic missile technology. 
The DPRK is upgrading some air defense systems and is pursuing unmanned 
aerial vehicles for military missions. Modest upgrades to DPRK ground 
forces include tanks and artillery pieces that made appearances in 
parades since 2020.
    The DPRK continues to advance aggressive cyber programs as a low 
risk, cost effective tool to influence and intimidate adversaries. 
Pyongyang also uses cyber programs to steal intellectual property and 
generate revenue, which includes the theft of crypto assets that helps 
finance weapons research and development.
Destabilizing Actions
  Missile Launches
    The DPRK conducted over 70 ballistic and cruise missile launches in 
2022, more than tripling the amount in any previous year, including an 
IRBM that overflew Japan. 2022 marked the DPRK's first ICBM launch 
since 2017. The DPRK launched a Hwasong-17 ICBM at a deliberately steep 
angle making it difficult to analyze its true capability. Finally, the 
DPRK tested a solid-fuel-powered rocket engine that, if effective, 
would allow the DPRK to transport and launch missiles faster than 
current liquid fuel-powered variants.
  Nuclear Program
    Over the last year, the DPRK increased its threatening rhetoric and 
took steps to expand and improve its nuclear capabilities. In 
September, Pyongyang codified its nuclear use policy stating its 
nuclear forces have a deterrence and a wartime-use mission. Pyongyang 
also carried out what it termed ``tactical nuclear warhead'' training 
and ``ballistic missile launching drills'' in support of the regime's 
goals to operationalize its nuclear weapons program.
    In 2022, the regime reconstituted its nuclear test site at Punggye 
for potential future use. Additionally, an International Atomic Energy 
Agency (IAEA) report highlighted indications of ongoing operations at 
the DPRK's plutonium enrichment facility, which produces fissile 
material that could be used in nuclear weapons.
  Support to Russia
    North Korea is using Russia's war against Ukraine war to strengthen 
its relations with Russia. In addition to its vote against the U.N. 
General Assembly's resolution demanding Russia's withdrawal and its 
recognition of Russian's illegal referendum of Ukrainian provinces in 
the Donbas region, the DPRK has supplied Russia with a significant 
amount of ammunition.
  Sanctions Evasion
    The DPRK continues to evade U.N. imposed sanctions intended to 
curtail funding for its nuclear and other WMD and ballistic missile 
programs. A U.N. Panel of Experts found continued sanctions evasion by 
entities, networks, and vessels that persistently fund these programs 
in defiance of U.N. Security Council Resolutions.
Violent Extremist Organizations (VEOs)
    Transnational and ethno-nationalist violent extremist organizations 
continue to pose a threat to safety and stability across the Indo-
Pacific region. We continue to defend the United States and our many 
regional allies and partners from this destabilizing threat. 
Additionally, we monitor the potential return of foreign fighters from 
distant conflicts, and seek ways to prevent violent extremists from 
planning and executing violent attacks.
                   implementing seize the initiative
    Seize the Initiative is USINDOPACOM's approach to defend the Nation 
and deter conflict. If deterrence fails, this approach ensures our 
forces are prepared to fight and win. Seize the Initiative consists of 
a distributed force posture that facilitates a campaign of joint and 
combined operations utilizing advanced warfighting capabilities with an 
enhanced network of allies and partners.
                       distributed force posture
    Forward-based and rotational joint forces armed with lethal 
capabilities demonstrate resolve, support the security of our allies 
and partners, and provide the Secretary and President with multiple 
options if required. Definitive access, basing, and overflight (ABO) 
arrangements enable the joint force, improve interoperability with 
host-nations, and position capabilities forward in the event of a 
crisis. A widespread and distributed force posture west of the IDL 
gives us the ability to more easily exercise and operate with our 
partners, increases survivability, reduces risk, and sustains the force 
with a network of stores, munitions, and fuel to support operations in 
a contested environment.
    USINDOPACOM is pursuing operating locations, both permanent and 
rotational, across ``clusters'' throughout the Indo-Pacific. Funding 
provided by the Congress in 2023 and the requests in the President's 
Budget Request (PBR) for 2024 will allow USINDOPACOM to continue the 
necessary planning and implementation efforts to disperse the joint 
force, enhance interoperability, and build capacity with allies and 
partners. The classified 1254 Report describes and prioritizes the 
specific locations and capabilities at each location.
  The Guam Cluster
    As the most-forward United States territories in the Pacific, Guam 
and the Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands (CNMI) are critical to 
United States regional security in the theater. The Department, along 
with the Government of Japan, has committed more than $7Bn for military 
construction and family housing projects on Guam in fiscal years 2022 
to fiscal year 2028 to meet our commitment with Japan under the Defense 
Policy Review Initiative (DPRI). This investment in Guam, which is home 
to 170,000 American citizens, highlights the importance of the island 
for sustaining the joint force as a main operating base.
    Several upcoming key posture projects in Guam and the CNMI will 
require historic levels of military construction. While Guam has the 
third highest construction workforce per capita nationally, current 
military construction demands require a workforce more than three times 
as large as what currently exists in Guam. Anticipated levels of future 
military construction will further exacerbate consistent labor 
shortages that have already left private construction projects unable 
to meet their baseline needs. The Department requires relief from the 
H-2B visa restrictions through at least 2029 to be able to provide the 
workforce required for our construction needs. A longer-term extension, 
beyond the current date of December 31, 2024, helps meet the 
Department's requirements and deliver critical military construction 
projects on time.
    To execute our command and control responsibilities, USINDOPACOM 
has requested support for Joint Task Force (JTF) Micronesia forward 
stationed in Guam. The JTF's area of responsibility will be the Guam 
cluster, which includes United States Territories (Guam, CNMI, Wake 
Island, and Midway Island) and the Freely Associated States (FAS), 
which consist of the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM), Republic of 
Palau, and the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI).
  The Japan Cluster
    The United States is working to strengthen our alliance and 
optimize our force posture with Japan through the forward-deployment of 
more versatile, resilient, and mobile capabilities. An optimized United 
States posture in Japan, alongside enhanced Japan Self-Defense Forces 
(JSDF) in areas including Japan's Southwest Islands, will substantially 
strengthen deterrence and response capabilities. The United States 
deployed MQ-9 remotely piloted aircraft to the Kanoya Japan Maritime 
Self-Defense Force (JMSDF) Base, and we will establish the Composite 
Watercraft Company at Yokohama North Dock this year. We are also 
working closely with Japan to expand joint/shared use of United States 
and Japanese facilities and are increasing bilateral exercises and 
training.
  The Philippines Cluster
    We have made significant progress to improve interoperability of 
United States and Philippines forces through utilization and expansion 
of the Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA). EDCA permits the 
United States to build infrastructure and preposition equipment at 
agreed upon locations. Under EDCA, United States infrastructure 
investments help meet our alliance requirements, fill short-term Armed 
Forces Philippines (AFP) capability gaps, support long-term AFP 
modernization, and better position the Department of Defense to respond 
to Humanitarian Assistance / Disaster Relief (HA/DR) events. In 
February 2023, our governments announced the addition of four future 
AFP sites as EDCA agreed locations, bringing the total to nine sites 
and 8$82 million in U.S. investments to date.
  The Australia Cluster
    The United States and Australia have agreed to continue the United 
States rotational presence across air, land, and maritime domains, 
including U.S. Bomber Task Force rotations. Leaders identified priority 
locations in Australia to support enhanced United States force posture 
to enable our combined exercises and presence. Assessments are underway 
for the potential use of various Australian locations for logistics, 
increasing the prepositioning of munitions and fuel. The 1254 
Independent Assessment identifies several significant posture 
initiatives in Papua New Guinea (PNG), where negotiations on a 
bilateral Defense Cooperation Agreement are underway.
               campaign of joint and combined operations
    Campaigning involves persistent and synchronized joint operations 
in tandem with our allies and partners, linked over time and space, to 
build warfighting advantage and deter our security challengers. 
Persistent day to day joint operations aligned with our combined 
exercises are critical to our ability to deter conflict. Campaigning 
normalizes our operations throughout the AOR, delivers interoperable 
and confident warfighting partners and gives us the ability to rehearse 
warfighting concepts together. In 2022, key highlights included ground 
forces operating in Northern Luzon and Japan's Southwest Island, the 
Rim of the Pacific Exercise (RIMPAC), and a new 14 nation combined 
exercise initiated by Indonesia titled Super Garuda Shield.
  Exercise, Experimentation, and Training
    Joint, all-domain exercises demonstrate combat credibility by 
bolstering the joint force's interoperability with our allies and 
partners and deliver warfighting proficiency. USINDOPACOM's robust 
exercise program demonstrates our commitment to defending the rules-
based international order, facilitates capability development, and 
builds relationships across the region with our partners. USINDOPACOM 
seeks to further expand multilateral participation in our exercise 
program, and train in contested, all-domain environments. These desired 
effects require continued investment in the Joint Training Exercise and 
Evaluation Program (JTEEP).
    USINDOPACOM is facilitating experimentation with advanced concepts 
and technologies to deliver warfighting outcomes at speed. This 
requires the ability to conduct high-end, multi-domain experimentation 
events in a continuous campaign. A real world environment enables 
proper evaluation of promising technologies for potential 
implementation in the near term.
    High-end training is an advantage for U.S. forces and our allies 
and partners. To maximize our training effectiveness, we are linking 
our ranges across all domains via a federation of interconnected live, 
virtual, and constructive effects, simulation centers, and mobile 
training support systems with the Pacific Multi-Domain Test and 
Experimentation Capability (PMTEC). PMTEC provides the combatant 
commander the capability to train joint and combined forces forward in 
theater at the highest levels. This initiative creates the largest 
coalition range complex in the world with the most advanced 
capabilities to support operational rehearsals and deliver integrated 
deterrence.
                   advanced warfighting capabilities
    The joint force currently enjoys the ability to deliver effects 
throughout the AOR, but we must continue to maintain and expand this 
advantage with new technologies across all domains. Maintaining our 
joint warfighting advantages will deter conflict and fulfill a decisive 
role should we need to fight and win. Advanced capabilities delivered 
by our maritime, air, expeditionary, land, cyber, space, and special 
operation components enabled by advanced concepts with our allies and 
partners deliver peace and stability throughout the AOR. To effectively 
counter competitor's anti-access/area denial (A2/AD) strategy, 
USINDOPACOM requires joint capabilities that provide overmatch in the 
near, mid, and long-term.
  Guam Defense System (GDS)
    USINDOPACOM's priority mission is to defend the homeland. 
Establishing the GDS, a 360-degree, integrated air and missile defense 
on Guam, remains the highest priority. Funding for a single integrated 
weapon capability must be uninterrupted to provide an advanced, 
integrated, persistent, and enduring, layered defense against 
ballistic, cruise, and hypersonic missiles. This system must also be 
prepared to incorporate offensive capabilities as needed, and 
synchronize our logistics requirements from the island.
  Decision Superiority
    Decision superiority means the joint force can see, think, and 
fight faster than its adversaries. This requires an ability to operate 
in contested spaces, maintain persistent, all-domain battlespace 
awareness, and close kill chains with advanced munitions enabled by a 
Joint Fires Network.
    To achieve decision superiority, the joint force must possess an 
ability to operate in contested spaces and deliver effects across 
multiple domains to deny, degrade, or defeat any threat. Our 
adversaries are developing and fielding A2/AD capabilities to constrain 
the U.S. military's ability to dominate all domains. To effectively 
deter our adversaries and counter any A2/AD strategy, USINDOPACOM 
requires joint warfighting capabilities in the near, mid, and long-term 
to ensure we can continue to operate our force anywhere we desire at 
the time and place of our choosing.
    The joint force requires persistent, all-domain battlespace 
awareness through a suite of all domain sensors, distributed via a 
Persistent Targeting-Quality Common Operating Picture (PT-COP) to 
multiple nodes. An effective PT-COP requires exquisite intelligence to 
achieve its full potential. FISA Section 702 is a vital authority to 
keep our Nation safe and will lapse on 31 December 2023 if not 
reauthorized. Section 702 allows targeted collection on the 
communications of our most critical foreign intelligence targets 
outside of the United States who use U.S. infrastructure and services 
to communicate. A lapse of Section 702 authority will have a 
significant detrimental effect on foreign intelligence collection 
specific to USINDOPACOM's mission and result in a decrease of 
battlespace awareness.
    A final, critical component of decision superiority is an upgraded 
network of all-domain sensors linked to an integrated fires network 
with advanced weapons capable of engaging all threats in the 
battlespace. JFN provides decision superiority by fusing land, 
maritime, air, and space-based sensors with nationally derived 
information to provide target guidance over a resilient and adaptable 
information technology-based architecture. JFN allows geographically 
dispersed commanders to simultaneously share a common understanding of 
the battlespace, fed by sensors from any platform which can provide 
targeting guidance to any weapons system. JFN, coupled with the 
lethality of current and future munitions, underpins conventional 
deterrence and provides the joint force with the necessary lethality to 
maintain combat credibility.
  Mission Partner Environment (MPE)
    Combined warfighting interoperability requires rapid, widespread 
sharing of information with like-minded nations to operate with our 
joint force. The MPE modernizes 13 separate coalition command, control, 
communication, computer, and information technology (C4IT) network 
systems into a single cyber safe system to deliver combined command and 
control (C2) capability throughout the theater. USINDOPACOM's MPE 
provides a resilient, secure, interoperable digital architecture that 
supports all-domain operations, provides real-time intelligence, and 
allows all participants to share a common operational picture.
  Integration of Space and Cyber Domains
    Our competitors seek to challenge U.S. dominance in all domains, 
including space and cyber. To maintain our warfighting advantages, 
USINDOPACOM requires resilient and flexible space and cyber 
capabilities, and we continue to integrate these capabilities into 
activities and exercises with our allies and partners.
                enhanced network of allies and partners
    The U.S. network of allies and partners is our greatest asymmetric 
advantage, built upon shared values, mutual trust, and respect. Our 
alliances, multilateral arrangements, partnerships, friendships, and 
Five Eyes relationships are all essential components of this network 
and play an important role in regional security. USINDOPACOM continues 
to strengthen all layers through increased security cooperation, 
advanced training, and more complex, multilateral campaigning. These 
activities in turn increase interoperability, build capacity, and 
enhance our shared security while reinforcing the rules-based 
international order. We are deliberately building theater-wide 
capabilities through information sharing that strengthen our alliances 
and partnerships.
Five Treaty Alliances
  Australia
    The United States-Australia alliance has never been stronger or 
more vital to regional security. Australia is a critical ally and an 
important leader in international efforts to promote a free and open 
Indo-Pacific. Similar to the United States, Australia communicates the 
importance of transparency and the maintenance of rules-based behavior 
and international law in its interactions with the PLA. Australia helps 
maintain regional and global security through U.N. sanctions 
enforcement against DPRK, and the hosting of United States forces.
    Australia is increasing its collaboration across the region, 
building stronger relationships with India, Japan, and Indonesia. 
Australia's recently signed Joint Declaration on Security Cooperation 
with Japan, as well as its leadership in supporting the security and 
stability of Blue Pacific nations, exemplifies the country's priorities 
on collaboration.
    Australia and the United States enjoy a robust relationship, and 
actively seek to deepen our partnership through military engagements, 
defense acquisitions, and force posture initiatives. The United States 
and Australia are working to enhance all-domain cooperation, integrate 
ranges, improve posture, and expand multilateral exercises across the 
theater. Australia and the United States have increased our cooperation 
throughout the Indo-Pacific, greatly improving our interoperability. 
Australia hosts the Marine Rotational Force-Darwin (MRF-D), and 
recently commenced deployment for its eleventh rotation through 
Northern Australia, demonstrating combined operational capability, to 
include two Bomber Task Forces.
  Japan
    The United States-Japan alliance remains the cornerstone of peace 
and prosperity in the Indo-Pacific Region. Japan's decision to 
significantly increase its defense budget will enhance the alliance's 
ability to deter conflict and set the example for other like-minded 
nations to defend the rules-based international order. Our nations are 
well aligned in our views of security challenges in the region, and in 
our efforts to deter conflict. To preserve our strategic alignment with 
Japan, we are working to complete the realignment of United States 
forces outlined in the DPRI.
    At the January 2023 United States-Japan Security Consultative 
Committee meeting, our nations bilaterally announced the revision of 
the 2012 Roadmap for Realignment Implementation, which will transition 
the 12th Marine Regiment to the 12th Marine Littoral Regiment in 
Okinawa by 2025, optimizing alliance force posture.
    The JSDF is highly capable and employs a large percentage of U.S. 
defense equipment, which is completely interoperable with U.S. forces. 
Additionally, Japan formally announced its decision to acquire 
defensive counterstrike capabilities and is currently looking at 
delivery platforms and munition options.
    Japan is also a key security contributor in bilateral and 
multilateral efforts with partners across the region that support a 
free and open Indo-Pacific. In 2022, Japan signed a Joint Declaration 
on Security Cooperation with Australia, and a Reciprocal Access 
Agreement (RAA) with the U.K. to help facilitate military-to-military 
activities.
  Republic of Korea (ROK)
    The United States-ROK alliance has been the linchpin for 
maintaining a stable, security environment since 1953 and we remain 
ready to deter and respond to the DPRK regime's threats. A 
multinational, whole-of-government approach is required to effectively 
deter DPRK provocation and enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 
(UNSCR) sanctions.
    The military-to-military relationship between the United States and 
the ROK remains steadfast, and the alliance continues to focus on 
maintaining military readiness and a combined defense posture suited to 
address the dynamic challenges on the Peninsula. The return of the 
Extended Deterrence Strategy and Consultation Group (EDSCG), return of 
major exercises on the Korean Peninsula, the first United States 
deployment of 5th generation fighter aircraft to the Korean Peninsula, 
and first United States aircraft carrier port visit to Korea in 4 years 
were positive demonstrations of United States commitment. USINDOPACOM 
is resolute in executing routine deployments of strategic assets to 
demonstrate the United States' unwavering extended deterrence 
commitment to the ROK.
    At nearly $46.3 billion USD, the ROK's 2022 Ministry of National 
Defense budget is the ROK's largest defense budget ever, and reflects 
plans to restructure and modernize the ROK military and acquire the 
capabilities needed for wartime operational control (OPCON) transition. 
Progress continues to be made in meeting the bilaterally agreed upon 
conditions for OPCON transition and, once achieved, will yield a 
historic restructuring of the alliance and our combined defenses.
  Republic of the Philippines
    The Philippines is a strategic treaty ally, and our strong 
bilateral defense relationship is critical to our network of allies and 
partners in the Indo-Pacific. The United States is committed to 
continuing our persistent counter-terrorism efforts with the 
Philippines and is also increasing support for maritime security, a 
national security priority for the Philippines.
    A United States firm, Cerberus, signed an asset purchase agreement 
in 2022 for the Hanjin Shipyard, now called Agila Subic, and finalized 
several lease agreements for the shipyard facilities. One of the 
agreements enables the Philippine Navy to use the shipyard and host 
United States ships for maintenance and voyage repair in this key 
strategic location.
    We have made significant progress to improve interoperability of 
United States and Philippines forces through utilization and expansion 
of the EDCA. In April 2023, our governments announced four new EDCA 
sites. The EDCA expansion makes our alliance more resilient, and 
accelerates the modernization of our combined military capabilities.
    This month, Balikatan 23 begins a 3-week, annual, joint command and 
control exercise (C2X) and field training exercise (FTX) with 
humanitarian civic assistance events conducted in the Philippines. It 
features Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and United States forces 
exercising a mutual defense scenario with a focus on tactical 
interoperability. Its purpose is to demonstrate United States 
commitment to the 1951 United States--Philippine Mutual Defense Treaty.
  Kingdom of Thailand
    The United States-Thailand alliance, built upon a mutual interest 
in maintaining stability in Southeast Asia and throughout the region, 
continues to progress. The United States is working to build partner 
capacity in Thailand and support modernization of the Royal Thai Army, 
Navy, Air Force, and Special Operations Forces. USINDOPACOM supports 
Thailand's military modernization efforts to enhance Thai capacity and 
United States-Thai interoperability. Most notably, the United States is 
currently reviewing Thailand's request to purchase our most advanced 
fighter, the F-35.
    Thailand is a critical partner for regional security and provides 
logistical nodes essential to United States military operations 
throughout the Indo-Pacific region. Efforts are underway to expand 
access to Utapao Air Base and additional new sites to support airfield 
dispersal, including Hat Yai and Nam Phong airfields.
    Exercise COBRA GOLD (CG) has returned to full scale participation 
after reductions in previous years due to COVID-19. CG23 allowed us to 
improve the training and readiness of our forces by participating in a 
large multilateral exercise in Thailand. We expect CG to continue to 
expand in complexity and scale, as over 20 nations joined the exercise 
in an observer status this year. CG is the largest exercise in 
Southeast Asia, and highlights the multinational security architecture 
standing ready to meet future challenges.
Multilateral Cooperation
  AUKUS
    The 2021 establishment of AUKUS (Australia, UK, and the United 
States) intends to buildupon longstanding bilateral ties through the 
establishment of a trilateral, security partnership based on defense 
capabilities that support our mutual national defense objectives. The 
first initiative under AUKUS Pillar I was to determine the Optimal 
Pathway to deliver a conventionally armed, nuclear-powered submarine 
capability to the Royal Australian Navy, which concluded and findings 
were formally announced on March 13, 2023. AUKUS Pillar II efforts 
focus on building trilateral capabilities in areas of shared interest 
including undersea warfare, cyber, artificial intelligence, and quantum 
computing to provide pivotal, future high-end warfighting and enhance 
our combined force posture.
  United States-Japan-ROK
    The United States has strengthened our trilateral exercises and 
operations with Japan and the ROK to enhance interoperability, advance 
our intelligence sharing, and bolster efficient communication as we 
work to deter and respond to increasing DPRK provocations. Our 
ballistic missile defense exercises included detecting, tracking, and 
intercepting simulated targets. The United States, Japan, and the ROK 
also participated in an integrated air and missile defense exercise 
with Canada and Australia off the coast of Hawaii, which included a 
live fire intercept of a short-range ballistic missile. Additionally, 
we increased our anti-submarine warfare exercises to improve 
interoperability against undersea threats.
    The United States remains dedicated to the complete and verifiable 
denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, and USINDOPACOM will continue 
to focus on strong trilateral cooperation to this end.
  The Quad
    The Quad, comprised of Japan, Australia, India, and the United 
States, is an important diplomatic partnership in the Indo-Pacific 
region. While not a military alliance, the Quad nations cooperate on 
advanced technologies, developing better infrastructure, and improving 
cybersecurity as a demonstration of how four mature democracies can 
favorably shape the security environment for the region. All four 
nations participate in exercise MALABAR to advance the collective 
planning, integration, and employment of advanced warfare tactics 
between nations.
Strategic Partnerships
  India
    The United States and India continue to strengthen our strategic 
and unique Major Defense Partner relationship based upon our shared 
vision for maintaining a free and open Indo-Pacific and sustaining the 
rules-based international order. We are building an increasingly robust 
level of defense cooperation through exercises, information sharing, 
and efforts to establish greater co-development and co-production of 
military technology. With respect to the Line of Actual Control, we 
continue to support direct dialog and the peaceful resolution of border 
disputes amid provocative Chinese behavior.
    USINDOPACOM is cooperating with the Indian Navy on increasing 
maritime domain awareness, specifically in the underwater domain, in 
order to address the growing threats in the Indian Ocean. Furthermore, 
we are supporting the India Navy's Information Fusion Center-Indian 
Ocean Region (IFC-IOR) with a Liaison officer to increase our 
information sharing. Our air domain cooperation is developing as B-1B 
Bombers participated in this year's AERO India and we look forward to 
participating in exercise COPE India as the bomber's presence sends a 
strong signal regarding the growth of our bilateral relationship.
    Exercises like TIGER TRIUMPH, COPE India, YUDH ABHYAS and MALABAR 
facilitate progress toward interoperability and enhance our information 
sharing as we increase the complexity and scope of our training.
    USINDOPACOM also seeks to deepen cooperation under the Logistics 
Exchange Memorandum of Agreement to enable more regular and flexible 
reciprocal access in the Indian Ocean Region, to include U.S. ship 
repair in Indian yards. In August 2022, the USNS Charles Drew became 
the first U.S. Navy ship to conduct a mid-voyage repair in an Indian 
shipyard.
    India is currently considering purchases of the F-21 (formerly F-
16), F/A-18 Super Hornet, F-15EX Eagle, MQ-9B guardian, and P-8I 
aircraft. In support of India's efforts to grow its defense industrial 
base, the Department has offered to explore proposals for co-production 
and co-development projects. These potential projects would support 
India's defense modernization and improve its capacity as a net 
security provider in the Indo-Pacific.
  Singapore
    Singapore is a highly capable partner, providing critical support 
for our air and naval forces in the vicinity of the Strait of Malacca 
and South China Sea, anchoring our presence in Southeast Asia. 
Demonstrating incredible flexibility, Singapore supported a short-
notice United States aircraft carrier port visit in July enabling 
required ship maintenance and crew rest. The Singapore Armed Forces use 
four continental United States locations for training and in 2019, we 
signed a non-binding MOU for Singapore to establish a permanent fighter 
detachment on Guam.
    Singapore also supports regional and global security initiatives, 
including hosting a multinational maritime Information Fusion Center, 
as well as a regional Counterterrorism Information Facility (CTIF). The 
CTIF represents USINDOPACOM's first collaborative, operational 
partnership with regional states to use network analysis and multilayer 
analytics to identify terrorist threats.
    USINDOPACOM looks forward to identifying opportunities to 
collaborate with Singapore's fourth uniformed service, the Digital and 
Intelligence Service, inaugurated in October 2022.
Developing Regional Partnerships
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  Mongolia
    Mongolia engages with the United States and other like-minded 
nations as part of its ``Third Neighbor Policy,'' to balance Russian 
and PRC influence by developing relationships with democratic nations. 
Mongolia is a dedicated partner in global Peacekeeping Operations 
(PKO). Through their extensive U.N. PKO contributions and deployments, 
the Mongolian Armed Forces (MAF) have gained significant operational 
experience and increased interoperability with the United States.
    Our active defense relationship with Mongolia is a key component of 
the Strategic Partnership, and contributes to shaping the regional 
security environment. USINDOPACOM continues to assist MAF with their 
defense reform: enhancing U.N. PKO capabilities, improving HA/DR 
response, developing a professional military education program for 
officers and Noncommissioned Officers, and expanding their Special 
Operations Forces capability growth. USINDOPACOM also co-sponsors 
Mongolia's KHAAN QUEST, an annual, multinational exercise designed to 
promote regional peace and security.
  Taiwan
    United States policy on Taiwan remains unchanged. We will continue 
to uphold our support for Taiwan's self-defense capabilities, 
consistent with the Taiwan Relations Act. Our support for Taiwan 
remains strong, principled, and in line with our one China policy, 
which is guided by commitments enumerated in the Taiwan Relations Act, 
the three United States-PRC Joint Communiques, and the Six Assurances. 
The United States will continue to support a peaceful resolution of 
cross-Strait issues, consistent with the interests and best wishes of 
the people on Taiwan. Our defense engagement with Taiwan helps ensure 
that Taiwan remains secure, confident, free from coercion, and able to 
engage in a peaceful and productive dialog.
  Southeast Asia
    The United States' engagement with Southeast Asia and with 
Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) strengthens 
relationships and conveys the United States' commitment to the region 
and building multilateral partnerships. ASEAN currently consists of ten 
member states and in November 2022, they agreed in-principle to admit 
Timor-Leste as the 11th member.
    ASEAN is the most influential multilateral institution in the Indo-
Pacific. We support the principle of ASEAN centrality and understand 
its importance to building trust, avoiding conflict, and reinforcing 
the rules-based international order.
    We continue to express our concern over the PRC's pressure on ASEAN 
members to conclude negotiations on the Code of Conduct in the South 
China Sea in a way that would impede lawful activities and undermine 
ASEAN parties' ability to engage in governmental or economic activities 
with foreign partners of their choosing. At the 2022 United States-
ASEAN Summit, President Biden announced the launch of the United 
States-ASEAN Comprehensive Strategic Partnership. USINDOPACOM is 
integral to ASEAN's multilateral capacity building efforts and will 
continue to invest time and resources to enhance the United States-
ASEAN Comprehensive Strategic Partnership.
  Brunei
    The United States-Brunei defense relationship is very strong with 
an expanding level of military cooperation. Brunei seeks increased 
cooperation with USINDOPACOM, and 2022 saw the establishment of the 
first United States-Brunei Land Forces Talks.
    In September 2022, Brunei approved the first multilateral training 
event to occur on Brunei soil. The U.K. Special Boat Service joined 
United States Navy SEALs and the Brunei Special Forces Regiment during 
Exercise NEPTUNE WARRIOR.
    USINDOPACOM is collaborating with Brunei and deepening cooperation 
in mutually beneficial areas, to include enhancing maritime domain 
awareness. Brunei's Integrator UAS, a Direct Commercial Sales purchase, 
is now operationally capable. The system will bolster maritime domain 
awareness and border security. Brunei has received six Integrator UAS 
platforms, and will receive a final three early in 2023. Bilaterally, 
we incorporated UAS into our exercises for the first time in 2022 via 
PALAWAN WARRIOR and the Southeast Asia Cooperation and Training 
(SEACAT) Exercise.
  Burma (Myanmar)
    The Department of Defense condemns the Burmese military's 2021 coup 
deposing the democratically elected government in Burma, and the 
detention of government officials, journalists, human rights activists, 
and members of civil society. The military uses brutal and excessive 
violence while continuing to restrict basic freedoms. USINDOPACOM does 
not engage with the Burmese military.
    Russia has taken advantage of the coup to increase its long-
standing engagement with the Burmese military, through high-level 
visits, military-to-military exchanges, and sustained weapons and 
equipment sales.
    The fallout from the coup has stalled efforts by ASEAN to resolve 
the resulting political and humanitarian crises and has led ASEAN to 
downgrade Burma's attendance at high-level ASEAN events.
  Cambodia
    In early 2017, Cambodia suspended all military-to-military 
exercises with the United States. USINDOPACOM continues to cooperate 
with Cambodia on humanitarian mine clearance and Missing-in-Action 
(MIA) personnel accounting.
    USINDOPACOM holds serious concerns about the PRC's military 
presence and construction of facilities at Ream Naval Base in the Gulf 
of Thailand. While USINDOPACOM desires to engage military-to-military 
with Cambodia when and where policy allows, Cambodia's actions to limit 
democracy and its lack of transparency with regard to Ream Naval Base 
provide a weak foundation for rebuilding trust.
  Indonesia
    Indonesia occupies a key strategic position as regional leader and 
the third largest democracy in the world. Defense ties with Indonesia 
are strong. Indonesia is advancing its status as a regional maritime 
leader, increasing enforcement against illegal fishing and investing in 
defense articles to update and replace equipment.
    Our exercise program continues to grow as demonstrated during 
GARUDA SHIELD 2023, the largest multilateral event to date designed to 
deliver joint and combined training. Future iterations will support 
Indonesia's newly developed Joint Transformation Initiative and is 
likely to include more like-minded allies and partners. We have 
expanded the Joint Exercise Program to include GARUDA SHIELD and will 
continue to build partner capacity with the Indonesian military.
  Laos
    Laos is one of the least developed countries in the region, with 
the PRC owning about 50 percent of its external debt. Laos seeks 
balance between its traditional relationships with Vietnam, the PRC, 
and Russia, and is seeking stronger ties with other ASEAN members and 
regional partners.
    Reconciling legacy of war issues remains a focal point in our 
relationship with Laos as we aim to resolve Unexploded Ordnance and 
Prisoner of War/Missing in Action (POW/MIA) recovery issues by 2030. 
Laos repatriated two sets of remains in 2022.
  Malaysia
    The United States-Malaysia military-to-military relationship has 
steadily grown over the last decade. In recent years, Malaysia has 
transitioned the focus of its military toward external security, 
developing a viable coast guard, and improving maritime domain 
awareness through intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (JSR) 
capabilities. We support Malaysia's maritime domain awareness by 
providing capabilities that can be dual-purposed for use in Counter-
Terrorism (CT) and Maritime Security (MARSEC) contexts. Since 2017, the 
United States has invested approximately $220 million in Maritime 
Security Initiative/Building Partner Capacity (MSI/BPC) programs in 
support of MARSEC objectives. During the 2022 CARAT exercise, Malaysia 
hosted 7th Fleet sailors and marines, and the Malaysian Armed Forces 
operated their newly acquired Link-16 ground stations with United 
States forces.
  Timor-Leste
    Timor-Leste is a geographically strategic country within the Second 
Island Chain and an emerging partner that welcomes expanded United 
States security cooperation. The 5-year, $23 million Baucau airfield 
joint rehabilitation effort will provide expanded access to the 
airfield in support of military exercises. Additionally, the MARSEC 
program opens doors for expanded access and presence.
    Timor-Leste was granted ASEAN special observer status in November 
2022 and ASEAN has agreed in-principle to admit Timor-Leste as the 11th 
member of ASEAN.
  Vietnam
    Vietnam is a vocal supporter of adherence to international laws, 
freedom of navigation for all, and adherence to the rules-based 
international order in the South China Sea. The United States and 
Vietnam signed a Three Year Defense Cooperation Plan of Action for 
2022-2024 as well as an updated Defense Memorandum of Understanding 
(MOU) Annex codifying new cooperation areas including defense trade, 
pilot training, cyber, and personnel accounting (POW/MIA).
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  Bangladesh
    Bangladesh is an important security partner to enhance regional 
stability. We are seeking to conclude a General Security of Military 
Information Agreement (GSOMIA) that will facilitate cooperation between 
the United States and Bangladesh on defense matters. Conclusion of the 
GSOMIA will advance opportunities for Bangladesh to access high-end 
United States military equipment and we are investigating other ways to 
strengthen security cooperation. This creates an opportunity to 
increase bilateral engagement in areas such as information sharing, 
military hardware, maritime security training, doctrine development, 
communications training, and joint planning and operations. Bangladesh 
has prioritized the development of maritime domain awareness 
capabilities and is seeking to modernize and diversify its military 
equipment.
  Maldives
    Maldives is a valuable partner for the United States and an 
integral part of a free and open Indo-Pacific. In 2022, the Maldives 
National Defense Force (MNDF) sought increased engagement with the U.S. 
military and like-minded partners. Maldives co-hosted the 2022 
USINDOPACOM Intel-Chiefs Conference, the USINDOPACOM Environmental 
Security Forum, and the Special Operations Command Tempest Wind 
exercise. Countering terrorism is an enduring area of mutual 
cooperation. In 2022, the MNDF affirmed they would participate in a 
trilateral CT exercise with the United States and the United Kingdom. 
Maldives also signed an arrangement with the Montana National Guard to 
join the State Partnership Program. The addition of a Deputy Security 
Cooperation Chief at United States Embassy Colombo dedicated for United 
States Mission Maldives will enhance this partnership even more.
  Nepal
    The United States has a strong partnership with the Nepali Army and 
conducts a range of security cooperation activities focused on HA/DR, 
PKO, military professionalization, and border security. Nepal is a 
regional and global leader in U.N. PKO. USINDOPACOM supports the 
development of Nepal's PKO cadre through Global Peace Operations 
Initiative (GPOI) funds provided by the Department of State.
  Sri Lanka
    USINDOPACOM seeks to ensure Sri Lanka is a capable regional partner 
with a professional military force supportive of the rules based 
international order. The Department of Defense continues to seek 
opportunities to expand exercises with Sri Lanka and encourages them to 
work with other like-minded nations to build partner capacity. Sri 
Lanka will host the fiscal year 2023 USINDOPACOM Environmental Security 
Forum to identify areas of cooperation and security impacts of climate 
change. Sri Lanka's recent announcement to reduce and restructure their 
Armed Forces suggests excellent opportunities for future security 
cooperation activities that focus on defense professionalization and 
building capacity in maritime security, HA/DR, and U.N. PKO.
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    In 2022, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the 
United States established the Partners in the Blue Pacific, an 
inclusive, informal coordination initiative that effectively supports 
the Pacific region. Our efforts are informed by the 2050 Strategy for 
the Blue Pacific Continent, the Pacific Islands Forum's long-term 
strategy to achieve a free, safe, and prosperous region.
    Blue Pacific cooperation is critical to a free and open Indo-
Pacific, enabling coordination with allies and partners in the AOR 
through strategic sea lines of communication. Blue Pacific nations 
highlight the security impacts of climate change as the single greatest 
threat to their livelihoods, security, and well-being. Other security 
priorities for the Blue Pacific nations are countering illegal, 
unreported, and unregulated (IUU) fishing, transnational crime, 
cybersecurity, maritime domain awareness, and drug trafficking.
  The Freely Associated States (FAS)
    The Freely Associated States of RMI, FSM, and Palau, are the 
cornerstone of the United States security architecture in Oceania, 
linking the United States with the Blue Pacific and Southeast Asia. 
RMI, FSM, and Palau have the highest military service per capita in the 
U.S. military, and make significant contributions to our operations. 
Our Compacts of Free Association (COFAs) agreements with the FAS, 
establish U.S. economic assistance for the FAS, and provide defense 
posture opportunities in the Indo-Pacific. Under the COFAs, the United 
States has full authority and responsibility for security and defense 
matters related to each of these three countries, including special and 
extensive access to operate in these territories and the ability to 
deny access to these three countries by any third country militaries. 
MOUs supporting the COFAs were signed with RMI, FSM, and Palau in early 
2023. USINDOPACOM engages in military construction projects throughout 
the FAS to improve air and maritime infrastructure, enhance domain 
awareness, and support FAS efforts to protect their economic interests.
  Fiji
    As a regional economic and defense leader, Fiji is integral to the 
security of the Southwest Pacific. We work with the Fijian forces 
through exercises, security cooperation, and activities with the Nevada 
National Guard State Partnership Program (SPP). Fiji's new training 
center, Blackrock, supports their U.N. PKO deployments across the 
globe. The Republic of Fiji Military Forces (RFMF) sent security forces 
in support of the Solomon Islands after riots in early 2022 and to the 
Sinai as members of the Multinational Force as well as other U.N. 
missions. Additionally the RFMF hosts USARPAC's multilateral exercise 
CARTWHEEL and will co-host the 2023 Chiefs of Defense Conference in 
Fiji.
  New Zealand
    New Zealand remains a steadfast partner and important leader in the 
Blue Pacific. The United States-New Zealand bilateral defense 
relationship is strong and continues to grow. In 2022, in coordination 
with our campaign plan, the RNZN HMNZS AOTEAROA participated in the 
RlMPAC exercise, conducted regional maritime patrols and Pacific Island 
engagements, and provided logistical support to United States, U.K., 
Australian, and JMSDF vessels sailing throughout the region. New 
Zealand also augments the DPRK U.N. Security Council Resolution 
enforcement efforts by providing maritime patrol aircraft and personnel 
to staff the Enforcement Coordination Cell.
  Papua New Guinea (PNG)
    PNG is an important emerging partner for the United States, with a 
shared history dating back to World War II. USINDOPACOM is in 
discussions with PNG leadership regarding several significant posture 
initiatives that are contingent on the signing of a bilateral Defense 
Cooperation Agreement (DCA). Negotiations with PNG on a DCA and a ship 
rider agreement are currently underway.
    Security cooperation initiatives in PNG, though limited in scope, 
are important to grow the capability of the PNG Defense Forces (PNGDF), 
strengthen security ties with its institutions, and assist in military 
development. USINDOPACOM is supporting State Department implementation 
of the strategy under the Global Fragility Act by providing disaster 
response and gender equity training to PNGDF. We also support the 
burgeoning relationship between the Wisconsin National Guard and PNGDF.
  Tonga
    Tonga is a partner with a history of coalition participation and 
ties to the Nevada National Guard through the SPP. Defense engagement 
has returned to pre-COVID levels to build partner capacity. A leader in 
the region, Tonga hosted the 2022 Southwest Pacific Defense Minister's 
Meeting in November with senior defense delegations from Fiji, Papua 
New Guinea, Australia, New Zealand, Chile, and France including 
observers from the United States and Japan.
Other Indo-Pacific Nations
  Canada
    Canada is a key Indo-Pacific ally and staunch supporter of the 
rules-based international order who deploys highly capable forces to 
the Pacific to support UNSCR enforcement efforts. To support the 
principle of sovereignty and uphold freedom of navigation rights, 
Canada executed combined Taiwan Strait Transits with the United States. 
Canada recently released its new Indo-Pacific Strategy aligned to the 
principles of like-minded nations to ensure a free and open Indo-
Pacific.
  France
    The United States maintains defense cooperation activities in the 
Indo-Pacific with France, America's oldest ally. France has the largest 
EEZ in the region, including commands located in French Polynesia 
(FAPF), New Caledonia (FANC), and South Indian Ocean Zone (FAZOI). 
France is a pivotal contributor to regional security efforts such as 
protecting fisheries, building community resilience, countering 
transnational crimes including trans-Pacific narcotic trafficking, and 
HADR. With key leader engagements and multiple deployments to the 
theater, France is increasing interoperability with the United States 
and other key allies throughout the theater. Additionally, the French-
led multilateral exercise MARARA included participation by Australia, 
France, Japan and the United States in Bora Bora in 2022. Last month, 
France held the third LA PEROUSE exercise in the Indian Ocean Region to 
enhance naval planning and operations, with participation from 
Australia, India, Japan, the United Kingdom, and the United States. 
France also supports UNSCR sanction enforcement activities against 
North Korea. In 2022, France updated their Indo-Pacific Strategy to 
focus on increased cooperation with like-minded regional partners 
throughout the region.
  United Kingdom (U.K.)
    The U.K. remains committed to the region as a champion of the free 
and open Indo-Pacific. They continue to sustain a healthy defense 
posture in the region, having renewed the Brunei Garrison Agreement to 
maintain around 700 troops in the Sultanate since September 2019. In 
2022, the U.K. continued its deployment of two Royal Navy offshore 
patrol vessels to the region through exercises in support of the Five 
Power Defense Arrangement (FPDA) with Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, 
and Singapore, as well as a multitude of other bilateral and 
multilateral Operations, Activities, and Investments (OAIs). The U.K. 
also signed a Reciprocal Access Agreement with Japan in 2022. 
USINDOPACOM continues to benefit from basing and access to the British 
Indian Ocean Territory at Diego Garcia.
Other Areas of Cooperation
  Women, Peace and Security (WPS) Program
    WPS is codified in law as a national security imperative, and 
USINDOPACOM is focused on WPS implementation. USINDOPACOM appreciates 
Congress' continued support of our WPS efforts. The command's WPS 
program is a unique and unmatched competitive advantage that promotes a 
free and open Indo-Pacific by upholding international human rights and 
the rules-based international order.
    In 2022, we continued to expand our work to meet the growing 
appetite for WPS training, engagements, and integration of WPS concepts 
into existing activities. To support an upcoming PKO deployment, 
USINDOPACOM conducted two WPS seminars with the Mongolian Armed Forces 
as part of exercise KHAAN QUEST. USINDOPACOM supported several ASEAN 
events, engaging with diverse stakeholders focused on a human security 
approach. We have also increasingly focused on supporting WPS work with 
Blue Pacific partners including the development of a WPS National 
Action Plan in Fiji and are similarly looking to assist the Solomon 
Islands this year.
    In August 2023, USINDOPACOM will deliver a 10-day regional Gender 
Advisor training in coordination with Australia, New Zealand, and Japan 
and will continue tailored WPS initiatives with the Pacific Islands 
countries, including a multi-year program for Papua New Guinea, as well 
as Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, and others.
  Red Hill
    In the last year, Secretary Austin tasked USINDOPACOM to establish 
Joint Task Force Red Hill in recognition of the imperative to safely 
and efficiently defuel the Red Hill Bulk Fuel Storage Facility on Oahu. 
Through cooperation, openness, and transparency with the Environmental 
Protection Agency and the Hawaii Department of Health, we have made 
steady progress throughout the year. Our actions will continue to be 
guided by uncompromising commitments to the health and safety of the 
people of Hawaii, including our military families, protecting the 
natural environment, and accomplishing our assigned missions.
  Security Impacts of Climate Change and Disaster Preparedness
    The security impacts of climate change present a significant 
challenge to allies and partners in the USINDOPACOM AOR. Pacific 
nations frequently cite climate change as their top concern. Nations in 
Oceania, South, and Southeast Asia are particularly vulnerable to food 
security, water security, and agricultural productivity challenges 
exacerbated by extreme weather impacts.
    Addressing these issues can strengthen relationships as we 
recognize their greatest concerns. The military's role in disaster 
preparedness and response builds trust and resilience throughout the 
region. The annual Pacific Partnership mission delivers medical, 
engineering, and HA/DR projects to address these critical challenges. 
During the Pacific Partnership 2022 mission, the USNS MERCY brought the 
Pacific Partnership team to see over 15,000 patients and complete 10 
major construction projects in Vietnam, Palau, the Philippines, and 
Solomon Islands.
    Understanding security impacts from sea level rise, temperature 
changes, and extreme storms is essential to long-term planning for U.S. 
operating locations in the Indo-Pacific region. USINDOPACOM is 
committed to reinforcing infrastructure, increasing resilience of its 
facilities, and assisting allies and partners to do the same.
                               conclusion
    In the last year, the global security environment dramatically 
changed. The PRC accelerated their whole-of-government assault against 
the rules-based international order and partnered with Russia to 
advance their goals. Strategic competition with the United States now 
encompasses all forms of national power across all domains. We see 
increasing efforts to drive wedges between the U.S. and like-minded 
nations in an attempt to dominate the region.
    Implementing the NDS in the near, mid, and long-term requires the 
United States to present a persistent, lethal, and integrated joint 
force west of the IDL that can deny adversary objectives while 
simultaneously demonstrating U.S. commitment and resolve to our allies 
and partners. Seize the Initiative is our approach, in support of the 
NDS, to deliver combat credible integrated deterrence by building a 
distributed force posture, improving our joint and combined operational 
campaign, advancing our warfighting capabilities and enhancing our 
network of allies and partners. To be successful, we all must execute 
with a sense of urgency.
    I will continue to advocate for the most pressing and pertinent 
requirements in the near and mid-term, but I cannot emphasize enough 
the importance of passing timely appropriations. The Department cannot 
move faster in the current year or adequately plan or execute 
programming in the FYDP without the resources to initiate new starts or 
properly sustain required programs. Continuing resolutions (CRs) result 
in cumulative and detrimental effects on our buying power, which are 
exacerbated by inflation, and add to the increased levels of 
operational risk.
    Conflict in the INDOPACOM AOR is neither imminent, nor inevitable. 
Nevertheless, we do not have the luxury of time, we must act now to 
maintain a free and open Indo-Pacific.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Admiral Aquilino.
    General LaCamera, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL PAUL J. LaCAMERA, USA, COMMANDER, UNITED 
   NATIONS COMMAND / COMBINED FORCES COMMAND / UNITED STATES 
                          FORCES KOREA

    General LaCamera. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and 
the distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to appear before you as the Commander of the United 
Nations Command, Combined Forces Command, and United States 
Forces Korea to discuss the current situation on the Korean 
Peninsula.
    Korea is as important today as it was in 1950, when the 
international rules-based order was first challenged and 
successfully defended on the Korean Peninsula. Located on the 
Asian continent, the Republic of Korea is crucial to regional 
and global stability. When North Korean communist forces 
invaded South Korea, with the blessing and assistance of the 
Soviet Union and China, the United States, along with the 22 
members of the United Nations, stood together with the South 
Korean people to expel the aggressors. The Korean War taught us 
that we must always be ready and forward-postured with our 
allies.
    To ensure continued peace and stability on the Peninsula, I 
have five priorities that are nested within the Indo-Pacific 
Commander's ``Seize the Initiative'' approach to ensure free 
and open Indo-Pacific.
    My first priority is to defend the homelands, the United 
States and our allies. The Korean War has not ended--we are in 
an armistice--and the Kim regime has developed capabilities 
that can reach beyond Seoul, Tokyo, Washington, DC, and the 
capitals of the United Nations Command Sending States. By 
defending forward in this strategic location we better protect 
our people and the Korean people. Defending forward reinforces 
our iron-clad commitment to the Republic of Korea.
    My second priority is to strengthen the United States and 
the Republic of Korea alliance. We must never take the alliance 
for granted. This is our center of gravity for deterring the 
Kim regime. The alliance has effectively deterred the Kim 
regime's resumption of large-scale aggression for almost 70 
years, allowing security and stability to flourish and the 
Republic of Korea to develop into an economically prosperous, 
vibrant democracy.
    In contrast, the Kim regime ignores the needs and rights of 
the great majority of its population and continues to invest 
its resources into developing weapons that it uses at a 
leverage. External leverage coerces concessions from the 
international community. Internal leverage maintains control of 
the people and ensures Kim regime survival.
    My third priority is to prepare for combat. This is 
decisive. Our alliance alone cannot deter aggression. Our power 
of resistance deters. Maintaining the highest State of combat 
readiness is our main effort. Because readiness is perishable 
we must continue realistic training in order to respond to 
aggression and defend our Homelands.
    My fourth priority is to build coalitions to dissuade 
aggression in the region. Our network of allies and partners 
with common interests on the Korean Peninsula represents our 
greatest asymmetric advantage.
    My fifth priority is to ensure our personnel are taken care 
of and prepared to execute our mission on the Korean Peninsula. 
Mission first, people always. Our people serving on the Asian 
continent have the extraordinary responsibility of providing 
security and stability throughout the Republic of Korea and 
Northeast Asia. Our focus remains taking care of the mental, 
physical, and spiritual needs of our servicemembers, civilians, 
and families.
    Since 1953, the United States and the Republic of Korea 
remain ready to deter and respond to North Korean aggression. 
Our mutual defense treaty expresses our common desire to live 
in peace with all people and governments. It also expresses our 
common determination to defend ourselves against external armed 
attacks so that no potential aggressor could be under the 
impression that the United States or the Republic of Korea 
stands alone in the Pacific area.
    While the United States and the Republic of Korea alliance 
began out of military necessity, it has evolved to become the 
linchpin of stability and prosperity in Northeast Asia. The 
soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, civilians, and 
contractors are proof of our iron-clad commitment to the 
alliance and ensure that the authoritarian regimes of North 
Korea, China, and Russia cannot unmake the international rules-
based order.
    Should the Kim regime resume hostilities, with your 
continued support we are ready. I am proud to serve with them 
and honored to represent them before you. Thank you, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General LaCamera follows:]

             Prepared Statement by General Paul J. LaCamera
                              introduction
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to provide a written 
statement on the security environment in Northeast Asia, an update on 
the ironclad commitment of the United States to the Republic of Korea 
(ROK); an overview of the combined and joint readiness of the United 
States-ROK Alliance deterring the Democratic People's Republic of Korea 
(DPRK); an update on United Nations Command (UNC), Combined Forces 
Command (CFC), and United States Forces Korea (USFK); and resourcing 
needs of the Joint Force and our families living on the Korean 
Peninsula.
    The soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, civilian 
employees, and contractors of UNC, CFC, and USFK have the extraordinary 
responsibility of providing peace and security throughout the Republic 
of Korea and stability throughout Northeast Asia. My foremost 
responsibility is to ensure our personnel are taken care of and 
prepared to execute our mission on the Korean Peninsula. My specific 
priorities for the United States Joint Force forward stationed in Korea 
are: Defend our Homeland(s), Strengthen the Alliance, Prepare for 
Combat, Grow Coalitions, and Take Care of our People.
    Almost 70 years ago, Congress ratified the mutual defense treaty 
between the United States and the ROK. The American people's commitment 
to the United States-ROK Alliance has never wavered in the years since. 
As stewards of this treaty, I appreciate your leadership and dedication 
as we work alongside our Korean allies, as well as our allies and 
partners represented by the United Nations (UN) Sending States. The 
support we have received from this Committee is instrumental in 
maintaining our ironclad commitment to the United States-ROK Alliance.
    The United States-ROK Alliance was forged in the crucible of 
combat--the first test of the post-World War II international system. 
When North Korean communist forces invaded South Korea, the United 
States along with 22 members of the United Nations, stood together with 
the South Korean people to expel the aggressors. While the United 
States-ROK Alliance began out of military necessity, our Alliance has 
evolved beyond security issues to become the linchpin of stability and 
prosperity in Northeast Asia.
    Our competitors and enemies seek to unmake this prosperity. It is 
imperative to remember that the Korean War has not ended--the Korean 
Peninsula is only in armistice--and that DPRK has capabilities which 
threaten not only the region but nations around the world. In 
confronting DPRK's aggression, the United States and the ROK will 
continue to stand shoulder-to-shoulder to maintain peace and security 
on the Korean Peninsula and stability throughout Northeast Asia.
               the security environment in northeast asia
    The United States' commitment to the ROK reflects the importance of 
Northeast Asia and the Korean Peninsula to global peace and stability. 
Northeast Asia was, is, and will remain decisive terrain for allied 
primacy within the wider Indo-Pacific. History demonstrates the region 
is a nexus of strategic competition, with the Korean Peninsula 
repeatedly used as an invasion route from the Asian continent into the 
first island chain. As a result, four out of the top five major 
military powers have fought multiple wars in Northeast Asia over the 
last 125 years. This history has carried forward into the present, with 
four of the world's most powerful economies--the United States, ROK, 
Japan, and China--competing in the same region.
    The ROK is an advanced, vibrant democracy critical to the 
resiliency of the regional and global economic engine. The ROK is, by 
GDP, the 10th largest economy in the world and a leading producer of 
semiconductors, cars, digital displays, smart phones, and other high-
end electronics. It is also the 6th largest defense exporter in the 
world, and the President of the Republic of Korea, President Yoon Suk-
Yeol, has set a goal for the ROK to become the 4th largest during his 
tenure. Furthermore, while the ROK was once a recipient of foreign aid, 
it has become a net contributor of foreign assistance.
    The ROK's success is due to the hard work of the Korean people and 
our shared values, democratic ideals, and market-based economies within 
the rules-based international order. President Yoon articulated his 
vision for the ROK to become a ``global pivotal state'' and the ROK 
government has released an Indo-Pacific strategy of its own. The 
strategy is a comprehensive vision for the entire region--one not 
limited to just Northeast Asia or only to economics. It is reflective 
of a rules-based international order founded in cooperation rather than 
coercion. As the ROK aims to be the ``hub for cooperation networks in 
the Indo-Pacific,'' protected under the security umbrella of United 
States military deterrence capabilities--including nuclear, 
conventional, and missile defense--as well as the capabilities of the 
United States-ROK Alliance, I expect Northeast Asia will remain vital 
to global stability and security.
    These factors increase the potential for third party actor 
intervention and influence on the Korean Peninsula, specifically from 
China and Russia. While we remain in armistice with DPRK, we are also 
in competition with these two traditional Asian land powers. Both are 
mindful that there is a premier Joint Force of nearly 30,000 American 
servicemembers forward deployed to the Asian continent, 700 miles from 
Beijing. These geographic realities, combined with powerful economic 
interests, make the ROK the linchpin of security in Northeast Asia. In 
the current strategic environment, relative to the U.S. the ``Far 
East'' has become the ``Near West.''
                            the dprk threat
    In the years since the Armistice was signed in 1953, DPRK has 
repeatedly and deliberately violated this agreement as the Kim Regime 
seeks concessions from the international community. Under Kim Jong-un 
(KJU), DPRK prioritizes regime survival over necessary reforms that 
could repair its economy and feed the North Korean people. Kim Jong Un 
uses perceived external and internal threats to eliminate competing 
sources of power and influence. Kim Jong-un's response to COVID-19 
included measures unrelated to the pandemic, such as a rededication of 
communist education efforts which only serve to further consolidate his 
control over the population. Despite the suffering of the North Korean 
people, he pursues new military capabilities he believes will solidify 
his rule. Over the last 10 years, DPRK has increased its capabilities 
and capacities, and is no longer a regional nuisance or problem for 
only United States and ROK forces on the Korean Peninsula. In January 
2021, DPRK codified a new ``menu of weapons development,'' which it 
unveiled at the Eighth Congress of the Worker's Party of Korea and 
began to steadily work through to achieve KJU's stated goals.
    As much as KJU and DPRK State their weapons development programs 
are in line with the right of any nation to develop self-defense 
capabilities, they have shown that they are unwilling to abide by 
international norms and abandoned any pretext for diplomacy. For 
example, when DPRK launches its missiles over Japan and into the 
surrounding waters, they do not issue notices to air missions (NOTAMs) 
or notices to mariners (NOTMARs), placing civilian populations at risk. 
Recently, their missile overflights of Japan caused Japanese civilians 
to seek cover. Furthermore, the December 2022 DPRK drone incursions 
into South Korean Airspace did constitute an Armistice Agreement 
violation. Since January 2022, DPRK has launched an unprecedented 
number of missiles with increasing capabilities, even testing long 
range systems that have no purpose other than to increase the 
credibility of its threat to the United States Homeland, the ROK, and 
other nations around the world.
    Most concerning is DPRK's renewed threats of nuclear destruction 
against the United States and the ROK. Recently announced DPRK policies 
indicate a renewed intent to pursue nuclear delivery capabilities. In 
September 2022, DPRK announced a new Nuclear Forces Policy Law which 
states that the DPRK will use nuclear weapons against non-nuclear 
states if it deems the non-nuclear State is ``colluding with nuclear 
states.'' This has been reinforced by statements made by Kim Jong-un's 
sister, Kim Yo Jong, and other authoritative sources affirming DPRK's 
first-use nuclear policy. Additionally, in remarks delivered at the 
beginning of 2023, KJU said North Korea needed to mass-produce tactical 
nuclear weapons and develop new Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles 
(ICBMs) that would enable a ``quick nuclear counterstrike.'' KJU 
believes a nuclear deterrent is the best means to preserve his regime 
and coerce the international community to lift sanctions. He is 
determined to operationalize his nuclear arsenal and is developing a 
credible second-strike capability. Right now, KJU is poised to conduct 
a 7th nuclear test; without outside influence, it is not a matter of 
``if'' DPRK will detonate another nuclear device but ``when.''
    I am concerned about DPRK leadership miscalculating or mistakenly 
believing they can control escalation. Contrary to DPRK's rhetoric 
blaming the United States and the United States-ROK Alliance for 
tensions on the Korean Peninsula, DPRK's actions demonstrate that if 
conflict were to resume it would be due to DPRK aggression. Such a 
conflict could immediately become a regional conflict and have a global 
impact, just as Russia's war against Ukraine has. We must remember that 
DPRK and China have a mutual defense treaty, which is the only defense 
treaty DPRK and China have with any nation. Finally, DPRK has shipment 
and transport lines of communication into Russia and China, allowing 
KJU to export his illegal weapons directly into Europe, as well as 
receive goods and services bypassing sanctions.
    The best way to deter DPRK is to maintain our ironclad commitment 
to the United States-ROK Alliance which has endured for almost 70 
years--and to never take it for granted. This requires us to shape the 
strategic environment during armistice through continuous validation of 
our extended deterrence capabilities and combat readiness, which remain 
our current focus. Our policy remains the denuclearization of the 
Korean Peninsula and deterring the use of nuclear weapons by the Kim 
Regime. Achieving this requires the proactive, coordinated, and 
concerted efforts of all three Commands in Korea: UNC, CFC, and USFK, 
along with our interagency colleagues, and international allies and 
partners.
     three commands, one goal: peace and security in northeast asia
    Since the Armistice was signed, the ROK and the United States have 
stood together to maintain peace and security on the Korean Peninsula 
and Northeast Asia. While we remain focused on a diplomatic resolution, 
the missions of UNC, CFC, and USFK are to be prepared to defend the ROK 
so our diplomats can negotiate from a position of strength. As 
President Biden has said, leading with diplomacy means standing 
shoulder-to-shoulder with our allies and partners. Our network of 
allies and partners with common interests that exists on the Korean 
Peninsula represents our greatest asymmetric advantage in maintaining 
regional stability. Additionally, effective collective action 
discourages the need for unilateral action by other states impacted by 
DPRK aggression.
    Our collective action ensures we are strategically predictable to 
our allies and partners, while being tactically and operationally 
unpredictable to adversaries and competitors. Managing and responding 
to crisis is the most consequential thing we do as an Alliance. Each of 
the three commands has separate sets of authorities, separate chains of 
command, and each continues to adapt to meet emerging security 
challenges. Our goal is to prevent a resumption of hostilities and we 
remain prepared to respond to any form of aggression across all 
domains, using our extended deterrence and kill web capabilities.
         enforcing the armistice: united nations command (unc)
    The evolving security environment reinforces the inherent utility 
and importance of UNC. Since 1950, U.N. Sending States have 
collectively supported the ROK's security and sovereignty alongside 
United States forward deterrence. While UNC transferred its warfighting 
mission to CFC in 1978, it continues to represent the mechanism for 
collective security on the Peninsula through its three enduring 
functions. First, UNC enforces the Armistice Agreement. After the 
signing of the Armistice in 1953, UNC has executed the functions 
necessary to maintain and enforce the terms of the Armistice through 
close coordination between the United States, the ROK, and relevant 
U.N. member states. This also requires coordination with the Korean 
People's Army (KPA). Since 1953, UNC has had over 1,200 formal meetings 
with the KPA, adapting the terms of implementation of the Armistice 
Agreement to match the requirements of the security paradigm on the 
Korean Peninsula. Furthermore, UNC informs DPRK prior to the start of 
United States-ROK Alliance large-scale training exercises, such as the 
defensive FREEDOM SHIELD, WARRIOR SHIELD, and ULCHI FREEDOM SHIELD 
exercises, to ensure training events are not misinterpreted as 
aggressive actions.
    Second, UNC coordinates the multinational contributions for 
securing the Korean Peninsula. The multilateral cooperation represented 
by UNC is essential to security on the Korean Peninsula, as the threats 
posed by DPRK will not be resolved by the ROK alone. Today, 18 
countries contribute to UNC's mission. These U.N. Sending States come 
from every corner of the globe, offering a visible reminder of the 
international community's resolve to defend the Republic of Korea and 
the global nature of the DPRK threat. I am thankful for their 
countries' contributions, and it is an honor to serve with their 
countrymen and women.
    Finally, UNC executes functions as assigned by U.S. National 
Authorities through the Joint Chiefs of Staff. United Nations Command 
is not a U.N. peacekeeping organization, but a multinational military 
command under U.S. leadership. While resolving all the sources of 
conflict on the Korean Peninsula remains elusive, progress has been 
made due to the efforts of UNC in implementing the terms of the 
Armistice Agreement while maintaining a combat credible deterrent in 
CFC.
  the heart of the united states-rok alliance: combined forces command
    Combined Forces Command has been the heart of the United States-ROK 
Alliance for over 44 years and is a unique, bilateral warfighting 
command charged with the dual missions of deterrence and defense. 
Previously located in the capital of Seoul, CFC recently completed its 
relocation to United States Army Garrison Humphreys. The bilaterally 
agreed upon Land Partnership Plan and associated Yongsan Relocation 
Plan provided the foundation for streamlining USFK's footprint while 
returning valuable land to the ROK for future development. These 
strategically analyzed and negotiated returns allow for continued 
economic growth on the Korean Peninsula, while the new headquarters on 
Camp Humphreys improves operational effectiveness and our combined 
defense posture. Co-locating USFK and CFC ensures we remain integrated 
and synchronized across all staff levels and domains.
    Combined Forces Command receives its direction and guidance from 
United States and ROK national leaders, through ministerial and general 
officer level forums. During Armistice, I, as the Commander of CFC, 
have Combined Delegated Authority of designated ROK forces to maintain 
deterrence and to prepare forces to execute combined missions and 
plans. This starts and ends with tough, realistic training--executed in 
combined and joint environments alongside our interagency partners 
across all domains using live, virtual, and constructive environments.
    Combined readiness is a no-fail mission. In just the last year, the 
United States-ROK Alliance completed numerous combined training events 
that demonstrated our ability to operate in multiple domains 
simultaneously. Off the shores of the Korean Peninsula, the ROK Navy 
and Ronald Reagan Carrier Strike Group executed multilateral exercises 
throughout the summer of 2022. These exercises included the 
participation of Japan, another important ally in Northeast Asia. 
Exercises such as
PACIFIC DRAGON 2022 and PACIFIC VANGUARD 2022 saw the United States, 
ROK, and Japan train together on combined antisubmarine warfare and 
mine warfare exercises. I am greatly encouraged by these trilateral 
exercises and look forward to additional high-end complex maritime and 
air exercises in the future.
    In the air domain, the deployment of United States Air Force fifth 
generation fighters and combined bomber escorts throughout Korean 
airspace demonstrated our ability to provide air superiority anywhere 
we choose. Again, I highlight our ability to coordinate with the Japan 
Self Defense Force, which provided fighter escort to our bombers before 
they transitioned into ROK airspace.
    On land, our combined ground forces were enhanced with the arrival 
of a Stryker Brigade Combat Team and establishment of a permanent AH-64 
Apache helicopter gunship squadron. The Stryker platform brings 
enhanced maneuverability and mobility to our land forces and increases 
our interoperability with ROK mechanized formations. Working alongside 
the ROK's Apache units, our Alliance demonstrated its lethality through 
multiple combined live fire exercises on the Korean Peninsula.
    United States and ROK forces have increased our capabilities and 
capacities to operate in the space domain. Our United States Space 
Force guardians operating on the Korean Peninsula became a service 
component command in 2022. We now have the ability to synchronize with 
our other components to maximize space effects and to coordinate with 
the ROK's Space Program. Within CFC, our Space Integration Team works 
to ensure our interoperability with the ROK in this critical domain. 
The ROK Space Program, led by the ROK Air Force, plans to become a 
major space power by the end of the decade. We are encouraged by the 
ROK's requests to participate in United States Space Force and United 
States Space Command exercises and war games to bolster 
interoperability.
    Finally, in the cyber domain, United States Cyber Command and ROK 
Cyber Command signed a memorandum of understanding this year, 
increasing our ability to conduct operations and counter third party 
intervention and influence on the Korean Peninsula.
    Our demonstrated lethality in every domain of strategic competition 
supports our combined progress toward Operational Control (OPCON) 
Transition. When complete, OPCON Transition will ensure any response to 
DPRK aggression that leads to military operations is led by a ROK 
general officer, with a United States general officer acting as the 
Deputy Commander of CFC. This process has always been
governed by, and subject to, bi-national decisionmaking. We appreciate 
the ROK government's support in progressing through the mutually agreed 
upon conditions required to complete this transition. The previous 
major defensive exercise on the Korean Peninsula, ULCHI FREEDOM SHIELD, 
demonstrated the progress being made toward Future CFC. ULCHI FREEDOM 
SHIELD included a Full Operational Capability evaluation of OPCON 
Transition, with ROK General Ahn Byung Seok acting as the Future CFC 
Commander.
    Exercises such as ULCHI FREEDOM SHIELD and FREEDOM SHIELD are 
routine, defensive training events critical to our ability to provide 
extended deterrence in Northeast Asia. Combined Forces Command was 
precluded from conducting large scale exercises in recent years due to 
COVID-19 and the political environment. Going forward we are making a 
concerted effort to reintroduce live training into our combined 
exercise program with our ROK Allies. As we increase our combined 
training, however, a large portion of the training remains unfunded. 
Despite an increased demand, there have been no additions to fiscal 
year 2023 theater exercise programs. Training is perishable and must be 
continuously conducted to maintain an appropriate level of combat 
readiness.
  resourcing the united states commitment: united states forces korea
    United States Forces Korea remains the premier Joint Force, capable 
of operating in all domains with our allies and partners, committed to 
defending the security of the ROK. It is a critical part of the United 
States' approach to providing extended deterrence in Northeast Asia. As 
United States Indo-Pacific Command's (USINDOPACOM) sub-unified joint 
force on the Korean Peninsula, USFK is primarily responsible for the 
Reception, Staging, Onward Movement, and Integration of reinforcing 
United States forces to the CFC, as well as the sustainment of those 
forces. As the USFK Commander, I support UNC and CFC by coordinating 
and planning among United States component commands in the ROK, 
exercising operational control of United States forces as directed by 
USINDOPACOM, and coordinating United States military assistance to the 
ROK.
    Our ability to provide forward deterrence is dependent upon 
conducting regular, robust, and challenging training. Due to space 
constraints, collective live-fire training opportunities are limited. 
Any reduction in funding levels will degrade 7th Air Force and Eighth 
Army's ability to execute these types of training events on-and off-
peninsula. Current funding levels, therefore, should be viewed as a 
``floor'' rather than a ``ceiling.''
    United States Forces Korea continues to demonstrate new and 
innovative capabilities that provide our forces advantages across all 
domains. Everything the Department of Defense (DOD) is doing to 
modernize is occurring on the Korean Peninsula--in a combined, joint, 
interagency environment in multiple domains. We are pursuing 
opportunities in artificial intelligence and machine learning. The 
DOD's Chief Data and Artificial Intelligence office prioritized USFK 
near the top of commands to invest in to enhance Sensor-to-Shooter and 
Combined Kill Web analytics. Our Digital Operational Plan (Digital 
OPLAN) will incorporate machine learning and artificial intelligence to 
move USFK forward in data analytics. Additionally, we are working with 
all United States military services on improving our aging network and 
cybersecurity posture for our Command, Control, Communications, 
Computers, Cyber, Intelligence, Surveillance, Reconnaissance, and 
Targeting (C5ISRT). Improving C5ISRT will enhance our situational 
awareness, decisionmaking, and communication readiness from our 
national command authorities to our forces in the field. To avert 
network isolation of our C5ISRT capability, we are pursuing replication 
of our coalition network off peninsula. Furthermore, USFK is 
collaborating with the DOD Joint Program Office for counter Unmanned 
Aircraft Systems (UAS) and established a counter small-UAS 
experimentation lab last summer. Our first experiments began in August 
2022.
    United States Forces Korea continues to enhance our existing 
capabilities, such as the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) 
ballistic missile defense system. This defensive capability provides 
protection for United States forces and the ROK against DPRK's 
ballistic missile program. President Yoon's administration has 
supported improved access to the THAAD site over the last year. The 
normalization of THAAD operations and unfettered access to this site 
are critical to maintaining the overall readiness of the system, as 
well as the health and safety of the servicemembers at this location.
    While we can operate across all domains, I am concerned about our 
ability to compete in the information environment in Northeast Asia. 
China, Russia, and DPRK's aggressive investments in information warfare 
technology and operational practices outpace DOD investments and 
challenge United States influence in Northeast Asia. As the largest 
United States force on the Asian continent, USFK is uniquely positioned 
to counter many of the disinformation, misinformation, and mal-
information efforts of our competitors and adversaries, and defeat 
enemies during conflict. The price of operations during armistice to 
deter, degrade, and disrupt adversaries is orders of magnitude less 
than the cost of combat operations designed to challenge revisionist 
states and authoritarian regimes.
              serving together: taking care of our people
    Servicemembers, civilians, families, and contractors who support 
the Joint Force are our most precious resource and taking care of our 
people is a no-fail task. Those who bring their families to the Korean 
Peninsula will spend at least 2 years here, defending the ROK and 
deterring DPRK. The families who live alongside their servicemembers in 
the ROK do so without many of the conveniences of living in the 
continental United States. Ensuring those personnel and their families 
are afforded the best quality of life while they are away from the 
United States Homeland is of paramount importance and is something I 
stress with leaders at every echelon. We continue to look for ways to 
build our community to ensure the ROK remains an assignment of choice 
for our personnel and their families.
    Our people live and work across the entire ROK, from Panmunjom near 
the Demilitarized Zone to the port of Busan. Being a responsible ally 
means being good stewards of the Korean land and environment. United 
States Forces Korea continues to conduct bilateral engagements with the 
ROK to appropriately posture our presence while also returning valuable 
land for use by the Korean people. We could not do this without 
military construction support from Congress.
    Thanks to congressional support, we have transferred the center of 
gravity for the United States-ROK Alliance out of Seoul and are 
actively improving our facilities across the Korean Peninsula. To help 
combat climate change, USFK is using the most current unified facility 
mechanisms to reduce downstream maintenance, improve quality of life, 
and maintain force protection. We are nearing the completion of Camp 
Humphreys' $10.6 billion transformation to the new center of gravity 
for the United States-ROK Alliance and the headquarters of UNC, CFC, 
and USFK. As we begin the third year (CY23) of a 5-year Special 
Measures Agreement with the ROK, we appreciate the Committee's 
continued support to ensure we can synchronize ROK funding and United 
States-appropriated funding to improve our facilities as quickly as 
possible. This support will ensure new facilities such as the United 
States Space Force Complex on Osan Air Force Base remain projected to 
break ground earlier than traditional military construction projects 
with the help of cost-sharing with our ROK Allies. It is also critical 
in improving our existing facilities, such as the ongoing repairs to 
the piers at the port of Busan.
    Providing support and medical care to our servicemembers, 
civilians, and families at our installations across the ROK remains a 
challenge. For example, the Brian D. Allgood Community Hospital on Camp 
Humphreys is not sufficiently staffed to provide care for the 
installation's population. Very few of the staff are assigned solely to 
the hospital; most of the staff are borrowed from operational units 
which have frequent field training requirements. These shortfalls are 
exacerbated at smaller outposts and locations. To provide the highest 
quality and most reliable care for our servicemembers, civilians, and 
their families, additional permanent staff should be recruited, 
retained, and assigned to all our deployed locations in the ROK. 
Particular attention should be given to the fields of behavioral 
health, nursing, and primary care.
    Finally, my focus remains on the well-being of our servicemembers. 
Our families include the dependents of U.N. Sending States who live on 
our installations. We are working with the DOD Education Agency to 
draft language into the future National Defense Authorization Act to 
allow these U.N. Sending State dependents status commensurate with 
United States servicemember dependents. The well-being of our 
servicemembers is also dependent on addressing systemic issues such as 
sexual assault and harassment in our ranks. I have a zero-tolerance 
policy for any action that harms unit cohesion. Our senior leaders 
continue to impress the importance of these initiatives upon their 
subordinates. This is not just about combat readiness--it is simply 
doing right by our people.
                             moving forward
    While DPRK prepares for a 7th nuclear test, our resolve remains 
unmoved: we will deter and, if necessary, defeat our adversary; and we 
are committed to the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula. Our 
collective actions will advance a free and open Indo-Pacific that is 
more connected, prosperous, and secure. The men and women working 
toward that goal are motivated, capable, and postured to do so while 
forward deployed to the Asian mainland alongside our ROK Allies. 
Cooperatively, we are focused on maintaining a robust combined 
readiness cycle, strengthening deterrence through strategic asset 
deployments, and conducting multi-domain operations while DPRK 
continues its provocative weapons development activities.
    I am grateful for this Committee's continued support. I am honored 
to serve this dedicated multinational, combined, and Joint Force 
deployed to the Asian mainland.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, gentleman.
    General LaCamera, your prepared testimony states that Kim 
Jong-un is determined to operationalize his nuclear arsenal and 
is developing a credible second-strike capability. Your 
testimony also states that without outside influence it is not 
matter of if North Korea will detonate another nuclear device 
but when.
    In this situation, do you see China in any way affecting 
their decisionmaking about the inevitability of another nuclear 
detonation? What is the effect of the North Korean's having a 
credible second strike?
    General LaCamera. Thanks, Chairman. I think China can play 
a spoiler in this. They can be supportive or they can be non-
supportive in what he is doing. What we are seeing right now, 
in any kind of U.N. sanctions votes in the United Nations, both 
China and Russia continue to veto that, and they continue to 
work against the things that we are trying to do to maintain 
peace and stability.
    Chairman Reed. With a second-strike capability, I presume 
that would immensely complicate your----
    General LaCamera. Yes, sir. I mean, it is clear that he 
has, in the last year plus, he has demonstrated a whole bunch 
of different capabilities, all of which could lead to a second-
strike capability. I mean, he is clearly focusing on the 
theater ballistic missile capability, not just on the Peninsula 
regionally but globally.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you.
    Admiral Aquilino, you have difficult steps to prioritize in 
terms of investments, and one area which seems critical is the 
electronic spectrum. I mean, to successfully conduct operations 
in the Pacific ideally you could disrupt the communication of 
our enemies and also their ISR [intelligence surveillance and 
reconnaissance], and at the same time, in a complementary 
fashion, disguise our assets and also have constant secure 
communication. Is that, in your view, like the number one 
priority?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Chairman. If you are talking 
about a prioritized list, the Guam Missile Defense System 
remains the Indo-Pacific's number one priority. That is based 
on the Homeland defense mission that is most critical. But 
immediately behind it, Senator, you talked about the capability 
to influence the electromagnetic spectrum, absolutely. We view 
it through this lens of decision superiority, which means we 
need to be able to operate in contested space, we need 
persistent battle space awareness of all things going on, and 
we need to be able to close our kill chains with the weapons 
and the network that allows that to happen, and the 
electromagnetic spectrum is critical to that.
    Chairman Reed. Are we putting enough resources in this 
budget to accelerate that process and accomplish that task?
    Admiral Aquilino. I am very thankful for the Department's 
budget. It certainly is strategy based. It is certainly focused 
on the Indo-Pacific. That said, as you know, Chairman, I have 
provided an unfunded list as it applies. The Secretary has got 
global responsibilities. As you have tasked in the 
authorization language, I am responsible to provide you with a 
list of what INDOPACOM assesses as the critical capabilities 
needed to both deter and defend, and we have provided both of 
those reports, as directed by law, to help inform.
    But it has certainly been identified, and my requirements 
have been fed into the Department.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Final point, Admiral 
Aquilino, you point out in your testimony, this is the first 
time in history the United States is facing two major nuclear 
powers, so a lot of the theory, a lot of the institutional 
arrangements that we have made reflect the cold war, which was 
a Soviet Union and United States confrontation.
    Just very quickly, how has this changed, to your thinking 
and the thinking of your colleagues in the Department of 
Defense?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks again, Chairman. So certainly the 
No Limits relationship by President Putin and President Xi is 
something we ought to be watching very closely, and what does 
that mean. My partner, General Cotton, at STRATCOM, is the lead 
for all the strategic nuclear portions. As it applies to 
INDOPACOM, he is a great supporting partner, and that means we 
have to understand what does that look like as we manage 
escalation and deliver deterrence, both conventionally and 
strategic in the strategic nuclear lens.
    I think what makes sense to me, and I know he would 
advocate for, and that is the modernization of our strategic 
nuclear triad as a priority threat, to be able to compete in 
that new world.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much.
    Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral, let me just make sure I understand. With regard to 
the electromagnetic spectrum, that is highly important, right 
up there bumping up against the Guam Initiative. Is that right?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. I would say it is in my 
number two kind of pile of decision superiority, behind the 
Guam Defense Initiative.
    Senator Wicker. Okay, so in order for us to take care of 
that we are going to have to fund some unfunded requirements. 
Is that correct?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, for consideration again I have 
provided the assets and the capabilities I think I need. There 
are certainly some capabilities I have asked for that provide 
benefit in the electromagnetic spectrum in order to execute our 
mission.
    Senator Wicker. Is it highly important that we fund this, 
vitally important?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, sir. I believe it is.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Let me just ask both of you, there 
are some people who feel our support for Ukraine is taking away 
from our capability and credibility in the Indo-Pacific, 
particularly with regard to Taiwan. Admiral, you first and then 
General. What do you say to that?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, I do not. The United States is 
the only global force capable of managing multiple threats. My 
partner in EUCOM is executing his mission sets. I have not been 
impacted at this point as it applies to my deterrence mission. 
So I do believe we can do both. I believe we have to do both to 
maintain the peace.
    Senator Wicker. We have to do both. Okay. General, what 
would Ukrainian success in this war say to the world about the 
situation in the Indo-Pacific?
    General LaCamera. For us, we are taking what is going on in 
Ukraine as lessons learned, boiling it down. It does not 
necessarily translate to what a fight on the Peninsula would 
look like. I think the support that is being provided, the 
lessons learned coming off of that, I think it reinforces how 
we feel about sovereignty and a country's right to choose their 
future.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, let me then ask you to enlarge 
on that. What is it to us, what happens in Taiwan and South 
Korea? You spoke about an international rules-based order, and 
sometimes I am troubled that that terminology does not get 
through to the American people. What is it to us, living in 
Virginia and Maryland and Mississippi and Nebraska and Arkansas 
that the forces of Xi Jinping and Kim Jong-un not succeed in 
that area?
    General LaCamera. I think it is a history lesson for the 
American people. I mean, the blood and treasure that we put 
forth in World War II and international rules-based order that 
we established right after that was challenged in 1950. It has 
been bookended by what is being challenged in Ukraine right 
now, and I think what it is demonstrating is that we believe in 
the sovereignty of a nation, choosing their future. We believe 
in democracy, et cetera.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Admiral, do you see what I am saying? 
International rules-based order--what is it to us in Tupelo?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. What it means is freedom 
of navigation. Think of goods and services flowing unencumbered 
through wherever they need to go to get to the people of the 
world.
    Senator Wicker. Our ability to purchase the products we 
need for everyday life.
    Admiral Aquilino. I do not know if it is on the purchase 
side, but when we talk international rules-based order it is 
certainly on the delivery side. So two-thirds of the entire 
global economy flow through the South China Sea and the Straits 
of Malacca, and if you were to not have a rules set of orders 
and there was a country that believed they could meter, 
monitor, task, tax, or impact that set of prosperity, that is 
what it would mean to the people of America, when you talk 
about the international rules-based order.
    The ability to fly anywhere that rules allow. The U.S. 
standing in the region as it applies to being an assured 
partner in the vicinity. Those are kind of the stakes and what 
it means when we talk about the international rules-based 
order.
    Senator Wicker. The value of the word of U.S. leaders, you 
are saying.
    Admiral Aquilino. Absolutely.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker.
    Senator Shaheen, please.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, and thank you both for your 
service and for being here this morning.
    India is a key partner. It is a member of the Quad. It is 
the only member of the Quad that maintains such a close and 
ongoing relationship with Russia, including continuing to 
acquire additional weapons from Russia.
    Are there more steps we should be taking to discourage 
India from maintaining that relationship with Russia and 
encourage them to adopt more of the positions of other members 
of the Quad, Australia, Japan, with us?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. India has been a 
tremendous partner. The partnership is only growing. It is 
strengthening. We have similar security concerns. We have 
people-to-people ties. We have certainly deep relationships 
with the Indians. They buy our equipment. We are interoperable 
in the military-to-military space. Their Chief of Defence, 
General Chauhan, and I have a terrific relationship.
    I think what we need to do is keep fostering this. The 
world's largest democracy with similar security concerns, we 
have to continue to work together in order to ensure that the 
United States and India's relationship grows. We certainly 
support the increased multilateral aspect of it. So the Quad is 
not a military agreement. It is an economic and diplomatic 
relationship. But the Quad nations come together often to 
practice and rehearse, and will continue to do that.
    Senator Shaheen. Well thank you. I agree. I think it is 
very important, and as we look at the growing relationship 
between China and Russia, it has an ever-increasing role to 
play. So thank you.
    Can you speak to how the expanded security agreement 
between the United States and the Philippines enhances our 
posture and how it can serve as a model for other nations?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. It is critically 
important. One of five mutual defense treaty allies in the 
region, the Philippines, our history goes back a very long way, 
as everyone knows. The increased EDCA [Enhanced Defense 
Cooperation Agreement], that have been concurred to--and I 
thank the Secretary for his work there as we have proposed 
those sites, that expands the areas that we can rehearse and 
exercise with the Philippines. But the critical nature of the 
Philippines, its strategic location, and the partnership that 
we have, those sites are critical. More than likely in next 
year's budget you will see and ask to do planning and design 
work in those sites. They have just been announced. There is no 
money in the 2024 budget to start work in those additional four 
sites, but you do see other requests to buildup the current 
sites in the Philippines. Our operations there, our partnership 
with the Philippines is critical.
    Senator Shaheen. Is that helpful as we are looking at other 
partner nations in the region, to be able to show what is 
happening in the Philippines? Are they looking at that as 
something that they are willing to consider because they see 
that agreement?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. I think all the nations 
in the region are looking at the threat and realizing they need 
to take additional actions, the Philippines, as a model for how 
we operate together, but it is certainly not alone. We are 
doing the same thing with the Japanese. General LaCamera is 
working with the South Koreans. We are working with our 
Australian counterparts. We are doing the same with our 
Thailand alliance.
    It is a model, and it is expanding, and we are looking at 
all nations to deliver those same capabilities, together with 
the United States.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I really appreciate the 
leadership that INDOPACOM has taken on the Women, Peace, and 
Security Act, and I think it serves us well all around the 
world. But can you speak to the advantage that that gives us 
over China, when we are looking at how we can engage women more 
fully and the contrast that presents to what China is doing?
    Admiral Aquilino. Certainly, Senator. The contrast is clear 
when you think about Xinjiang and the treatment of the Uyghurs, 
and understand that that goes on, that is a problem set that 
China has to face, and one of our asymmetric advantages. Our 
ability to care for all people, no matter what, and the Women, 
Peace, and Security Initiative that was begun in INDOPACOM 
before me and that we continue has been helpful.
    As a matter of fact, I was just in Papua, New Guinea, a 
couple of months ago with my counterpart, General Goina, and 
that is where our next seminar is coming up, followed by one in 
Japan.
    It is about people, it is about respect, it is about 
treating people fairly. It is what we stand for in the United 
States and we will continue to do those things.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you very much. Thank you both.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here today and thank you for your service to this 
country.
    Admiral, on your unfunded requirements list you included a 
requirement for funding to accelerate the development of 
several munitions, including the FM-6, the Army's PrSM weapon 
system, and the Maritime Strike Tomahawks. What would those 
capabilities provide and why do you assess that it is necessary 
to make those investments in 2024?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thank you, Senator. As we always look at 
lessons learned, certainly one that came out of the Ukraine 
conflict was the ability to ensure that our stockpiles were 
correct, with the right number and the right types of weapons 
and capabilities. In the Indo-Pacific Command, we have those 
requirements identified. We can talk specific classified if we 
need to, but bottom line is the entire Joint Force is required 
to help deliver effects to both deter and fight and win.
    So from the land component, Maritime Strike Tomahawk, PrSM 
Increment 2, those capabilities, to enable the MDTF [Multi-
Domain Task Force] from the Army, their new formation, the 
Multi-Domain Task Force, and from the Marine Corps and the 
Littoral Marine Regiment, those are the capabilities that those 
forces need to bring with them in the region to do the missions 
assigned. So that is why I have advocated for those, right 
types and right numbers.
    Senator Fischer. Right. Thank you, because it was a lesson 
learned from Ukraine. The much, much faster rate than planned 
for, especially in expending all those munitions there. So 
thank you for including those on the requirement list.
    You also have on the unfunded priority list a requirement 
for an additional $511 million for INDOPACOM campaigning. Why 
is campaigning in the Indo-Pacific particularly valuable, and 
what types of exercises or activities would this additional 
funding be used for if Congress would authorize it?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. The deliver of 
deterrence through the lens of INDOPACOM ``Seize the 
Initiative'' approach, campaigning is one aspect of it, and 
that means persistent forward forces operating with our allies 
and partners in the region forward every day.
    When we talk about our operations and exercises, we do 120 
exercises a year with our allies and partners, but that is not 
365 days. So for the days we are not exercising I am also 
looking to ensure that our forces are forward, prepared, and 
operating with our allies and partners every day. That is what 
those campaigning dollars are requested for. That is to pick up 
the force and move it forward into the theater, in places where 
they can operate with our allies and partners. That money is 
not to do maintenance. It is not to do depot-level sustainment. 
It is for transportation costs to be able to move the force and 
sustain the force forward.
    Senator Fischer. Which is extremely important not just for 
the exercises but also for future planning. Correct?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. With AUKUS [Australia, United 
Kingdom, United States], the security partnership that allows 
us to share significant capabilities with our closest allies. 
We hear a great deal about Pillar 1 and the sharing of nuclear 
propulsion technology with Australia, and that is an important 
part of the agreement.
    However, through Pillar 2, the AUKUS partnership allows for 
greater cooperation across multiple lines of effort. What do 
you assess to be the prime areas of opportunity to increase 
that coordination and extend partner capabilities and 
capacities?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, first, our partnership with the 
Australians is so critically important, again, a mutual defense 
treaty ally. The Australians have shared blood and treasure 
with us in every fight we have been in for over 100 years. So I 
commend my partner, Angus Campbell, and all of the Australian 
leadership.
    They also are concerned about the security environment, 
which is why AUKUS is so critical for both peace and 
prosperity, as we share submarine technology and deliver U.S. 
Virginia-class submarines, and follow-on types of submarines.
    But in Pillar 2 there is also a ton of capabilities that 
you highlighted. The most critical, and I think we can get at 
fast, there are some cyber capabilities, there are space-based 
capabilities, there are some undersea capabilities, and then 
there is some work in the form of artificial intelligence and 
machine learning. There are others. Those, I think, have the 
most promise for near-term delivery of capability.
    Senator Fischer. The United States is stronger when our 
allies are strong as well. Correct?
    Admiral Aquilino. Always.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Fischer.
    Senator Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Admiral Aquilino, INDOPACOM 
is the first combat command to have a Space Force Regional 
Command Center. How is U.S. Space Force's Indo-Pacific 
integrating into INDOPACOM, and can you discuss how you build 
the guardian skill set into your regional exercises like Cobra 
Gold and Balikatan?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. Thank you. I really 
appreciate General Saltzman's team, along with General 
Dickinson to set up the first component at INDOPACOM. So 
General Mastalir is my component commander, and the criticality 
of his efforts to synchronize our effects, undersea, on the 
sea, above the sea, in space and cyberspace, is something that 
the U.S. can do better than anybody on Earth. The space 
component is critical. Their enabling capabilities are 
extremely valuable, and working with our allies and partners in 
this domain is also important.
    In Cobra Gold, which is our most recent exercise, in 
Thailand, we actually put in place a space component as a part 
of that exercise. We are doing it in Balikatan. It will be 
included in all of our upcoming exercises, wherever and 
whenever we can. Talisman Sabre, as well, with the Australians. 
Northern Edge as a part of our event. So it is now just normal 
ops.
    Senator Gillibrand. Great. The House Armed Services 
Committee earlier this week, you noted that the strategy and 
approach with regards to the PRC [People's Republic of China] 
is competition and not containment. Can you expand upon why 
that difference is important?
    Admiral Aquilino. I think for me, Senator, the ability to 
compete is really a non-adversarial type of relationship, which 
is, I think, what the United States seeks. The PRC believes we 
are trying to contain them. There is no doubt, despite the 
President's comments, the Secretary of Defense's comments, 
General Milley's comments, and my comments. We seek peace, not 
to provoke conflict.
    So competition is important. There are things we are going 
to agree on. There are things we are not going to agree on. 
That is what competition looks like.
    Senator Gillibrand. Well, relatedly, last month Secretary 
Austin testified before this Committee that he thought it was 
important that great powers have the ability to talk to each 
other and manage crisis. But reports indicate that his outreach 
was not answered by the PRC during the tensions in February 
over the high-altitude balloon.
    Are you engaged with your counterparts in China's eastern 
and southern military districts, and from your perspective, why 
would such engagement be important?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, I certainly think it is valuable 
to have relationships and be able to have conversations, 
whether it is for positive reasons or in times of concern. So 
it has been important for me. I have not had contact with my 
counterparts, either in the Eastern Theater Command or the 
Southern Theater Command, although I have had a standing 
request to have a conversation now since I have been in this 
position.
    We have invited our counterparts to the Chiefs of Defense 
Conferences that we do two to three times a year virtually, and 
once a year in person, and we will continue to seek their 
attendance to those important events where we can come together 
with all of the regional military leaders to have 
conversations.
    Senator Gillibrand. I would be grateful if you do establish 
that contact that you update the Committee, because this is a 
priority that we can deconflict.
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Gillibrand. Similarly, the Department has focused 
on One Health surveillance, meaning an integrated public health 
approach considering human and veterinary diseases, food, and 
environmental monitoring, for years, since well before the 
pandemic. COVID-19 focused us all on the intersection well-
framed in the One Health concept.
    Can you address any programs or initiatives within 
INDOPACOM based on the One Health concept and how those are 
serving to protect the health and security of the American 
people?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. We certainly support CDC 
[Centers for Disease Control and Prevention] in this important 
initiative. We do not have any programs, but what we do have is 
exercises. So in 2021, we did an exercise directly focused on 
this issue. We will do it again in 2023, and we will remain 
linked with the interagency. Especially in the wake of COVID, 
the importance, I think, came to light.
    Senator Gillibrand. Right, and the fact that we do not have 
any working relationship with China made the work with regard 
to COVID's beginnings, middles, and end really difficult. So 
that is why your role is so important in these long-term 
national security goals.
    General LaCamera, Kim Jong-un has launched 12 rounds of 
missile tests since January. Some of these tests happened close 
in time to our Freedom Shield exercise with South Korea, but 
several of the tests predated that exercise. Can you fill us in 
on what your assessment is driving the recent surge in 
dangerous activity?
    General LaCamera. His Eighth Party Congress in 2021, 
Senator, he laid out a trajectory. He is doing that. Right now 
I think he is reacting to our training. Since President Un has 
come in we have increased our ability to not just do command 
post exercises but field training exercises.
    The challenge is when we telegraph the timing of it, it 
gives him an opportunity to plan to use that as a reaction to 
us. But he is on a course that he set in 2021, and he is moving 
out on it.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Gillibrand.
    Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Admiral, I want to continue along the line 
of questioning about Taiwan's capabilities. I know that there 
is a backlog of weapons transfers to Taiwan that has to be 
addressed. But not every kind of weapon in the world is 
backlogged. So while we work on that backlog I want your 
professional assessment of whether an appropriation of FMF 
[foreign military financing] funds to provide Taiwan with 
weapons that are not backlogged, weapons such as mines, might 
be helpful for them and also helpful to increase deterrence in 
the Western Pacific.
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. The delivery capability to 
enable our responsibilities under the Taiwan Relations Act is 
important, and to get it to the people on Taiwan is critical. 
The capabilities we have laid out, that we have coordinated and 
identified inside the Department, there are many that could be 
done very quickly.
    Senator Cotton. Could you just give us kind of a handful of 
the top priorities of what additional FMF funds could get to 
Taiwan of weapons that are not backlogged?
    Admiral Aquilino. I think what I would give you is the 
capability set. I cannot tell you which specific ones are 
backlogged.
    Senator Cotton. That is fine.
    Admiral Aquilino. But if you think about anti-aircraft 
capability, if you think about anti-ship capability in a 
variety of forms, whether they be missiles, mines, but those 
capabilities would be critical.
    Senator Cotton. There is also the possibility of a Taiwan-
focused Presidential drawdown. Would your answer be the same 
for that, that that also could help surge some of the 
capabilities to Taiwan that they need to improve deterrence in 
the Western Pacific, just like FMF funds would?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, sir, absolutely, and I thank 
Congress for taking a look at that, and ultimately for the 
Presidential drawdown authority, not only for the authority to 
do it but ultimately to backfill it, if possible, is critical.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. You have also expressed concern about 
the loss of any combat power in the theater. As the Ranking 
Member on the Air, Land, Power Subcommittee I have been 
particularly concerned about the fact that our Air Force is 
characterized by shrinking inventories and an aging fleet, 
going back 30 years now.
    I want to be clear I am not talking about changing our 
global force posture. I know there has been a lot of angst, if 
you will, about moving aircraft around from the Western Pacific 
and from Germany and Alaska. So I am not talking about that. I 
am talking about adding more capability to the Air Force as a 
whole.
    Given the importance of air power in any kind of conflict 
scenario in the Western Pacific, would additional F-15EXs and 
F-35s in the Air Force inventory enhance your efforts to deter 
conflict?
    Admiral Aquilino. It certainly would, Senator, especially 
when you talk about the increased capability and capacity that 
might come with that. Fifth-generation advanced and the fourth-
generation capability that exists in the EX, those capabilities 
would absolutely help deliver deterrent effects.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    General, North Korea continues to develop new capabilities 
and make new threats to the Republic of Korea and to the United 
States and other friends. They recently tested a solid-fueled 
intercontinental ballistic missile. How does that change your 
assessment of their capability, and why would that be an 
important advance for North Korea over their traditional 
liquid-fueled missiles?
    General LaCamera. Thanks, Senator. It poses some challenges 
on the indications and warnings. Again, he laid out his plan. 
He is moving toward it. It is continuing to demonstrate a 
couple of things. One, he meant what he said, and two, he is 
continuing to be able to develop this capability. Even with 
sanctions and even with COVID and lockdowns and things like 
that, he has been able to continue this development.
    Senator Cotton. Why, exactly, does the introduction of a 
solid-fueled missile reduce your indications and warnings?
    General LaCamera. I would rather move that to a classified 
setting, Senator.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. I think sometimes we get kind of 
accustomed to these provocations from North Korea and we 
overlook the fact that they are, in fact, improving their 
nuclear forces capability, and it is not just the same-old, 
same-old.
    General LaCamera. I can assure you I am not distracted.
    Senator Cotton. No, I know you are not, but I think some 
people here, and when they see the news in the United States 
are, and I think it is important that we be mindful that they 
are making technological progress that is alarming in both the 
nature of their nuclear forces and also the ranges of their 
missiles.
    Thank you both, gentlemen.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton.
    Senator Kelly, please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Admiral Aquilino, as we spoke about this morning, I just 
want to get a little bit more detail on the Compass Call 
electronic warfare mission. You know, there is no doubt that 
the next conflict that we are involved in will be heavily 
fought, and potentially won in the electromagnetic spectrum. As 
our adversaries evolve in their EW [electronic warfare] 
capabilities it is critical that we maintain our competitive 
edge here by being ready to protect our own assets and also 
attack our adversaries' capabilities in the electronic warfare 
spectrum.
    So the EC-37B, the new Compass Call capability that I 
worked on on this Committee to increase the procurement will 
enhance blue force lethality and survivability. I am really 
proud that this capability is going to be hosted in Arizona, at 
Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.
    Admiral, what impact would the Compass Call have in 
INDOPACOM if a crisis or conflict emerged?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. It is absolutely a part 
of our set of capabilities that we believe we would need to 
employ. The new capability out of Compass Call is critical, 
along with all of the other electromagnetic support 
capabilities that come from all the services. Again, this is 
going to be a joint service fight. The Compass Call supports 
not only the Air Force but the rest of the Joint Force, so it 
is critical.
    Senator Kelly. I know you are not an EW guy, you know, 
being a former F-14 pilot, who served, by the way, with my 
brother, I think aboard the Ike. But can you speak specifically 
about the EC-37B and what critical capabilities that it can 
deliver that might not be available on any other platform?
    Admiral Aquilino. To keep it in the unclassified space, the 
ability for our force to operate in contested space is 
important. Our ability to have persistent battle space 
awareness is important, and then any capabilities to do any 
disruption actions that we would like to take are important.
    Senator Kelly. Has it recently been used in any exercises?
    Admiral Aquilino. I will have to get back to you on that, 
sir.
    Senator Kelly. Okay, and then, finally, in your 
professional military opinion how many Compass Calls do you 
think that your theater, INDOPACOM, needs to ensure blue force 
survivability if we were to be in a conflict, specifically with 
China?
    Admiral Aquilino. Sir, if it is okay I would get back to 
you in a classified setting on that.
    Senator Kelly. General, can you also comment on the 
necessity for a strong electronic warfare attack capability on 
the Korean Peninsula?
    General LaCamera. Yes, Senator. Thank you. I need that but 
I also need the ability to train at that level on the Korean 
Peninsula, which we currently do not have, either on the ROK 
[Republic of Korea] Air Force or United States Air Force side. 
So we have got to go off-peninsula to get some of that training 
for our pilots to be able to operate in the EW threat area.
    Senator Kelly. Admiral, back to you. On the Navy's EW 
capability, how do you currently assess where the United States 
Navy is specifically with aircraft carrier battle groups?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, as we talked about there is a 
critical importance for that electronic attack and electronic 
support capability. It is inherent and interwoven into the 
carrier strike group formation. It is also used to support the 
rest of the Joint Force, so those F-18G Growlers are critically 
important.
    Senator Kelly. It is one area where Ukraine is currently 
struggling when the Russian electronic warfare capability is 
outmatching them at this point. I think it is indicative of how 
important electronic warfare is in any modern combat, so thank 
you, Admiral, and thank you, General.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly.
    Senator Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, first 
of all let me begin by thanking both of you for your service to 
our country, and your families' as well. It is appreciated and 
sometimes we do not say it enough.
    Gentlemen, to both of you, I would like to begin along the 
same lines with regard to spectrum issues. There has been a 
discussion about the separation or the sharing of certain parts 
of the electromagnetic spectrum, in order for our country to 
continue moving forward in 5G development. But the area in 
particular that I want to focus on is the area which is the 3.1 
to 3.45 gigahertz band. It is especially sensitive because we 
have already had testimony by naval officials, including 
Secretary Del Toro, specifically regarding the use of that part 
of the electromagnetic spectrum with regard to radar.
    I would like to continue that line of questioning and 
provide each of you an opportunity to discuss the importance of 
the 3.1 to 3.45 portion of the spectrum with regard to 
protecting our forces, and perhaps a little bit of additional 
color with regard to how critical that part is with regard to 
the physics of that area of the spectrum.
    Admiral Aquilino?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, we certainly operate in that 
spectrum, so as we look at the potential sharing and how we are 
going to do that, we certainly do not want to have any place 
where either our capabilities are impacted by other use, and as 
always, as good stewards, we do not want to be impactful to any 
other use. So I think we would have to look at it very closely 
and figure out how we could make it work.
    Senator Rounds. Fair to say that the current radar systems 
that our most advanced destroyers use is using radar systems 
that operate in that area. Correct?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. There are a variety of 
Joint Force capabilities that operate in that spectrum, to 
include missile defense, firm at sea, so there are certainly 
some critical capabilities there.
    Senator Rounds. Does that include the island of Hawaii?
    Admiral Aquilino. The Aegis system on Kauai, in Kauai, 
certainly operates in that spectrum, along with other missile 
defense capabilities.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General?
    General LaCamera. Senator, I am going to have to take that 
for the record. That is above my expertise.
    Senator Rounds. That is fine. Thank you, gentlemen. I 
simply think that it is very important that we understand--we 
have a committee which is working right now on sharing that 
information. There are some people that would like to move 
forward with including a sale of that part of the spectrum, and 
I think it is just simply not responsible for us to allow that 
to happen until after the complete report is completed in 
September. That is the reason for asking the question.
    Admiral Aquilino, cyber and space remain critically 
important domains to U.S. national security. Could you briefly 
explain how you integrate your operations with CYBERCOM and 
SPACECOM? Do you believe the fiscal year 2024 budget adequately 
supports our ability to effectively address the growing cyber 
and space threats in the Indo-Pacific?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. I have a space 
component, as we just talked about, and I also have a cyber 
component. As a part of our operations development and planning 
and campaigning those teams are plugged directly into the 
physical domains, the ships, the submarines, the airplanes, the 
ground forces, and we synchronize all those operations.
    General Nakasone, General Dickinson, and General Saltzman 
are great partners. They understand the missions that I have 
asked, they understand my priorities, and they are taking all 
actions to support our efforts.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. We have talked some about the 
use of land mines and other capabilities in which to shape a 
battlefield. General LaCamera, can you talk a little bit about 
the need to be able to appropriately shape a battle positioning 
on land in the Korean Peninsula and the need to have those 
battle-shaping capabilities.
    General LaCamera. Thanks, Senator. I mean, the 
Demilitarized Zone is probably one of the most heavily mined 
areas in the world, and to be able to integrate, to prevent, 
shape, move, disrupt the enemy's ability to move over land is 
extremely important to the ground force commander.
    Senator Rounds. Do you continue to have discussions about 
the deployment or the ability to deploy appropriate, treaty-
appropriate capabilities? We are talking about land mines, 
basically, but those of a modern era that we can control in 
terms of when they are available and when they are neutralized?
    General LaCamera. Yes. As we go through on our exercises, 
mine clearing and mobility exercises is all part of the field 
training exercises that we do, not just in the digital world 
but on the ground.
    Senator Rounds. Can you do your mission appropriately 
without access to those types of tools?
    General LaCamera. I do not believe so.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds.
    Senator Ernst, please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair. Gentlemen, thank you 
very much.
    Admiral Aquilino, let's talk a little bit about the Indo-
Pacific. It absolutely is the priority theater and site of our 
pacing threat. Thank you for your defense. If, God forbid, the 
United States would ever cross swords with China, the defense 
of our Nation really does depend on you, so thank you.
    I want to talk specifically, Admiral, about the land-based 
systems. DOD reports that China fields more than 1,250 ground-
launched ballistic missiles and ground-launched cruise 
missiles, with ranges between 500 and 5,500 kilometers. How 
many ground-launched missiles of that range does the United 
States field?
    Admiral Aquilino. None that I am aware of at this time.
    Senator Ernst. You are right. Zero, and of the programs 
under development, how many exceed 3,000 kilometers, which 
would be the outer ranges of your area of responsibility?
    Admiral Aquilino. Same.
    Senator Ernst. Zero. You are right, Admiral. Thank you. And 
Admiral, what military advantages would this gap provide China 
with in any future conflict?
    Admiral Aquilino. Well, Senator, it certainly is in their 
strategy and their design is to keep us out of the theater. So, 
our ability to operate in that space is critical, as I 
discussed.
    Senator Ernst. Admiral, would you agree that ground-
launched theater-range strike systems could buy down some of 
that risk in your AOR [area of responsibility]?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, as we said, the entire Joint 
Force would be required both to deter and to fight and win if 
need be. The ability for the land component to deliver those 
weapons--and again, those are articulated in my 1254 Report, as 
requirements that I have identified that we need--it certainly 
expands our ability to provide multiple dilemmas, and they are 
directly involved in our approach.
    Senator Ernst. Multiple dilemmas is a good thing. Admiral, 
would you further agree that DOD should study options for 
deploying those ground-launched, theater-range strike missiles 
in your AOR?
    Admiral Aquilino. I do not know about the study. I can tell 
you we are doing it right now, Senator. Our exercises, our 
operations as a part of the Multi-Domain Task Force and the 
Marine Littoral Regiment, the forces are preparing when that 
capability is delivered.
    Senator Ernst. Very good. Thanks, and I am glad to be 
leading an effort to build the Rings of Fire in INDOPACOM along 
with Senator Manchin and Congressman Gallagher in the House. We 
feel that that is important for your capabilities.
    Admiral, you spoke a little bit with Senator Wicker about 
some of the Ukraine tradeoffs, and I want to drill down a 
little bit on that and be a little more specific. So let's talk 
about Ukraine as it applies to Taiwan. Has our support to 
Ukraine depleted any munitions that are needed for Taiwan?
    Admiral Aquilino. Not at this time, Senator.
    Senator Ernst. So a little different fight, a little 
different capabilities that are needed. Just to be very, very 
clear, the fight that is ongoing between the Ukrainians and the 
Russians, the munitions that we are providing to Ukraine at 
this time are not degrading capabilities that are necessary for 
the fight that might occur in Taiwan.
    Admiral Aquilino. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. Thank you. We do have a lot of 
discussion about this, ongoing, in the Senate and in the House. 
There are those that say we cannot complete both missions, we 
should not be helping in Ukraine. I agree with you, Admiral 
Aquilino, I agree with you, General LaCamera, that we must 
maintain our assistance to Ukraine. It will not, at this point, 
degrade what we are doing as we look toward the East.
    I want to thank you both for making that very clear today, 
and I do hope that other Members of Congress understand this 
need, and plainly put, it is for the defense of our Nation and 
our global standing that we ensure success with the Ukrainians, 
but we also cannot take our eye off the ball when it comes to 
any fight that might occur, whether it is North Korea or 
whether it is China.
    Thank you, gentlemen, very much for being here. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst.
    Senator Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed. I really 
appreciate you holding this hearing. Thank you both for your 
service to our Nation, for being here today, and I want to 
associate myself with my colleague, Senator Ernst, on how we 
have to do all of it. All of our standing, our safety around 
the world matters, and I appreciate your service there.
    We are going to go right into it, Admiral Aquilino, and 
talk about maintaining our technological edge, because we are 
all talking about China. They are leveraging State funding to 
accelerate their own military modernization efforts across key 
domains. They are rapidly advancing in areas like AI 
[artificial intelligence], robotics, cyber, and, of course, 
hypersonics.
    Domestically, global competition for a skilled workforce, 
declining investment in R&D [research and development], DOD's 
contracting challenges, and the STEM [science, technology, 
engineering and mathematics] workforce gap, they are 
unfortunately all eroding and they are hurting our 
technological edge over China.
    So it is why I am working to establish a public-private 
partnership program to accelerate the scaling, production, and 
acquisition of innovative defense technologies by creating 
incentives for investment right here in American small 
businesses working in this space. We have to be nimble.
    Admiral Aquilino, how might a public-private partnership 
that spurs private sector investment and advanced defense 
capabilities, how do you think that could help us maintain our 
technological edge with China?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. As I articulated in my 
testimony, the ability for the United States to go faster to 
deliver deterrent effects is critical. The innovation that 
exists in the United States is second to none anywhere on the 
globe, so any actions that would deliver outcomes in support of 
our deterrence effect would always be welcome.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. I think using the imagination and 
innovation partner is always a good thing. And another place 
that we really have to do that is our cybersecurity, and our 
cybersecurity cooperation, in particular, with Taiwan, because 
we are acutely aware of the threat that China poses in the 
cyber domain. China has used Taiwan as a testing ground for its 
cyber capabilities, and its recent cyberattacks have forced 
Taiwan to harden their defenses.
    It is why today I am introducing, with Senator Rounds--he 
is not here right now--Senator Rounds and Congressman 
Gallagher, bipartisan legislation to expand military 
cybersecurity cooperation with Taiwan. Again, Admiral Aquilino, 
how do you assess Chinese cyber threats to Taiwan and how is 
INDOPACOM working to expand military-to-military cybersecurity 
cooperation with Taiwan to strengthen the deterrence and raise 
the cost of escalation for Beijing?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator, again, in combination 
with my partner, General Nakasone from CYBERCOM, we always look 
to strengthen allies', partners', and friends' networks so that 
they are secure and that they can have a confidence that the 
things that they are putting out in their own networks are not 
being read or impacted by other nations, and we do that across 
the theater. We certainly have actions undergoing to ensure 
that.
    As a part of our approach in INDOPACOM, and it is a part of 
my unfunded list, is something called the Mission Partner 
Environment. To talk to those allies and partners right now, I 
have 13 separate networks. That is costly. They are at risk, 
and what we are attempting to deliver is a single pane of glass 
that allows us to communicate securely, in a cyber safe way, 
with all of our partners across the region, no matter who, at 
the level at which we can share.
    We have demonstrated already with one of our partners, and 
we will expand that our ability to scope and scale it. But it 
is the only way we will be able to operate with those allies 
and partners in a way that gives us confidence.
    Senator Rosen. I agree with you on the single point of 
entry because 13 separate networks leaves a lot of points of 
vulnerability, too much to manage.
    In the few seconds I have left, I want to talk about your 
State partnership program. In Nevada, we have the Nevada 
National Guard, we have our partnerships with Fiji, Tonga, and 
most recently Samoa, to support INDOPACOM's mission. I am going 
to go pretty fast here. In the South Pacific we help you with 
maritime security and humanitarian assistance goals.
    Given their strategic locations, the small island nations, 
particular again vulnerable to threats from China. How can our 
State partnership program, how can it be leveraged to bolster 
the cybersecurity programs in the Indo-Pacific, and the 
National Guard is?
    Admiral Aquilino. We view those relationships through the 
National Guard, and General Hokanson is also a great partner in 
support of that. As a matter of fact, we just signed a recent 
one--I was at the signing--in one of the Pacific islands not 
long ago.
    So expanding that, building those relationships help build 
trust, and all of that leads toward increased interoperability 
and capability, in cyber and all the other domains.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen.
    Senator Budd, please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman, and General, Admiral, 
thank you both for being here.
    Admiral, in very real terms what is the strategic 
significance of the Taiwan Strait? More broadly, why is 
maintaining a free and open Indo-Pacific matter to Americans?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. Certainly Taiwan itself 
is in a strategic location as it applies to the transfer of 
two-thirds of the global commerce around the world. It matters 
as it applies to the international rules-based order. In other 
words, if a single nation is allowed to describe what will be 
allowed to sail, fly anywhere that they choose. That is not 
what the like-minded nations of the world have signed onto. 
There is a coercive potential. There is increased cost 
potential. There is insurance hike potential. I mean, the 
second-, third-, and fourth-order effects are enormous. All of 
those things are what matter to the global nations.
    Senator Budd. Thank you for that. You know, when I think 
about this, I think about how important it is to work with and 
empower our allies and our partners to ensure that no one 
nation can dominate such an important region, militarily.
    Sticking with you, Admiral, I have got a few questions I 
would like to ask about our foreign military sales process. I 
have asked questions of other geographic combatant commanders 
as well. I would appreciate, on the first part, just a simple 
yes or no, and then at the end I will give you a chance to 
expand, if you will.
    Is the current FMS [Foreign Military Sales] process, is it 
fast and flexible enough to meet our foreign partner security 
needs, in your AOR? That is a yes or no. Is it fast and 
flexible enough to meet----
    Admiral Aquilino. I would like it to go faster.
    Senator Budd. So that is a no, I take it?
    Does the transfer of U.S. defense articles build our 
partners' capacity to provide for their own defense?
    Admiral Aquilino. It does.
    Senator Budd. Is the United States still the security 
partner of choice in your AOR?
    Admiral Aquilino. For almost all of the nations, yes, sir.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. Is the United States at risk of 
losing that security partner of choice status to China?
    Admiral Aquilino. I think it is an area of competition that 
we have to ensure that we execute our roles and make sure that 
we, in alignment with all those like-minded nations, are moving 
toward a region that supports the benefit of all those nations.
    Senator Budd. Is China increasing arms exports to any 
countries in your area of responsibility?
    Admiral Aquilino. They are.
    Senator Budd. Could you explain how foreign military sales 
challenges are impacting strategic competition with China in 
the Pacific?
    Admiral Aquilino. The FMS program for the United States, 
Senator, helps us ensure that we are interoperable with like-
minded nations. We are certainly not going to plug in any of 
the PRC capabilities into our systems. It builds confidence. We 
have the best capabilities on the globe, also a lesson learned 
from Ukraine. Continuing to share, operate, coordinate, and 
exercise with those partners increases their ability to defend 
themselves and it increases our partnerships.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. Admiral, how comfortable are you 
with the defense industrial base ability to produce the 
munitions necessary to meet your requirements?
    Admiral Aquilino. I am extremely impressed with all the 
defense industrial base. I would like them to go faster.
    Senator Budd. Thank you very much. Chairman, I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd.
    Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Admiral Aquilino 
and General LaCamera, thank you very much for your service and 
for being here, and Admiral, always good to see you.
    When we met recently, Admiral Aquilino, you made it very 
clear that you are the responsible person for missile defense 
of Hawaii. In this year's budget request there is money for a 
dual-use radar, and this is a good step forward, but certainly 
will not be the last.
    As the supported commander for the mission, do you believe 
the services and your fellow combatant commanders are providing 
you the capabilities you need for the defense of Hawaii now and 
into the future?
    Admiral Aquilino. Aloha, Senator. Thank you. I am 
absolutely responsible for the defense of Hawaii. I am 
supported by a variety of great partners. They understand their 
roles. They understand the stakes. I certainly have an added 
concern since I live there. But bottom line is Hawaii is 
defended, and we will continue to defend it. The additional 
capabilities we have asked for will enhance that defense.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. The Compacts of Free Association 
(COFA) between the U.S. and the Republic of the Marshall 
Islands, the Federated States of Micronesia and Palau are 
currently up for renewal. You and I discussed the importance of 
the Compacts when we met, and they are vital to our ability to 
maintain a free and open Indo-Pacific.
    The COFA agreements include support for COFA citizens who 
can come to our country without visas, a very special category 
of lawfully present people in our country. Until the policy 
changes in the late 1990's, these COFA citizens had access to 
Federal benefits. While the access to COFA benefits is not 
directly within your jurisdiction, effective Compacts are 
critical to our ability to operate in your AOR.
    Admiral, do you agree that strong Compact agreements, 
including honoring our commitments to the people of the Compact 
states and nations, and particularly those who choose to live 
in the U.S., is critical to our ongoing operations in the Indo-
Pacific?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. So the Compact 
Agreements are absolutely critical to the defense of the United 
States. Those are partner nations that we have deep history 
ties with. As a matter of fact, the Compact states, per capita, 
send more servicemembers to the United States military than 
anywhere else. They have proven to be patriots, and they are 
tremendous friends. We defend them like they are our hometown, 
and we will continue to do that. That is critically important.
    Now, as you articulated, not in my lane, but the United 
States takes care of people. Our ability to ensure the broad 
spectrum of human rights and taking care of people is a part of 
our DNA, so I certainly support that.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you very much, because as a totality 
of the commitments that we have to our Compact nations, the 
DOD, which very much, of course, in our country, very much 
benefits from these Compacts, that again, while it may not be 
in your lane as to their ability to access Federal benefits, 
that is a very important component of our partnership and our 
close relations with our Compact nations.
    Admiral Aquilino, across your theater facilities in Hawaii, 
Guam, Japan, and Korea are in a State of disrepair, impacting 
our readiness and ability to mobilize forces quickly. Failing 
pipes, moldy barracks, intermittent blackouts, and frankly, 
lackluster repair facilities run counter to our military and 
community needs.
    How does the deferred maintenance of our infrastructure, 
really resulting in massive facility failures such as at Red 
Hill, how does that impact your ability to conduct deterrence 
in your AOR?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. As you know, the 
infrastructure and support and funding for the service 
infrastructure comes through service budgets, but when we took 
a look at the most recent, specifically the water main break on 
Hawaii, I took a look through the lens of readiness, on we 
ought to be able to identify where we are concerned, and not 
just in Hawaii. We did in Korea. We did it in Japan and the 
other places throughout the theater, for me to be able to 
understand our readiness.
    So we undertook a study. My team is reviewing what that 
looks like, and Senator, when we complete that study I would be 
glad to come back and brief you. I have advocated for those 
investments into the infrastructure to deliver the readiness we 
need for the force. But again, I owe you an answer on that.
    Senator Hirono. I think it is really important because as 
we establish priorities for the DOD and for all of the services 
that the deferred maintenance is becoming ever, ever larger, 
and it results in the kind of catastrophes that cost billions 
of dollars. So I appreciate your leadership on this, and as far 
as I am concerned we need to have a much better plan on how we 
are going to keep up with maintenance of all of our facilities 
across our country, as well as, indeed, the world.
    Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono.
    Senator Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thanks, Chairman.
    General LaCamera, thanks for hosting me last Independence 
Day. I got to meet a lot of your troops, and a lot of them were 
from Florida, so thanks for doing that.
    If North Korea invades and was able to take over South 
Korea, would it have any impact on the American family?
    General LaCamera. Yes, I believe it would.
    Senator Scott. If you were going to say, hey, this is why 
we should have troops in South Korea, why we should make sure 
that South Korea remains as an independent country, what would 
you tell the American public?
    General LaCamera. I would tell it is an important piece of 
ground. It puts us on the Asian continent. It is a 
demonstration of our iron-clad commitment to the region and 
peace and stability in the region. I think South Korea's 
economy is important to our economy, and that regional 
stability. I believe that a challenge to that would have 
impacts on the United States.
    Senator Scott. Are there any products or services that 
would be important that the American citizen would be without? 
Would it matter to the average person that wants to go buy 
something?
    General LaCamera. No. I believe in capitalism and 
competition, and I am sure they can find another product 
elsewhere. I think it is more of an intangible than it is a 
tangible.
    Senator Scott. Admiral, what would you say about--would you 
say the same thing about Taiwan? If China invaded and they were 
able to win and took over Taiwan, would it have any impact on 
American families?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, first of all, the integration of 
the global economic network is critical, and there would be 
multiple touches on the Taiwan piece, specifically the high-end 
semiconductors is critical to many things we use. So there 
would be a drastic impact if we were not able to replace it in 
some other way. There is no doubt about that.
    Senator Scott. Do you have any idea of what percentage of 
high-end chip are made in Taiwan and how much of an impact that 
would have on cars, any electronics we do?
    Admiral Aquilino. Almost all of them, and I do not know 
what that percentage of impact would be, but it would be broad.
    Senator Scott. For both of you, for Korea and for Taiwan, 
are the governments of South Korea and Taiwan, are they doing 
everything they can to defend themselves? Because it is not the 
easiest thing in the world to, one, get to Taiwan, or two, to 
have the resources to be able to defend South Korea. So for 
each of you, could you just tell me how important it is, and do 
we have the right resources, are they doing the right things? I 
mean, as far as I can tell, Taiwan--I mean, what, do they have 
8-month conscription? I mean, they have not armed their 
citizens. I mean, it seems to me that would be some of the 
simplest things to do, have a stronger military, arm their 
citizens. The same with South Korea.
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. In the wake of the Ukraine 
invasion by Russia I think if you look at that and if you look 
at a variety of other actions that have gone on in the region, 
there is a real concern, to include on the island of Taiwan. If 
you look at Hong Kong, all right, who is next? If you look at 
Ukraine and the linkage between Russia and China, there is a 
real concern.
    I have certainly been encouraged by recent actions for 
conscription and other things that have been taken. I think 
there is a real seriousness now.
    Senator Scott. Is that true for South Korea?
    General LaCamera. It is a little bit complicated because 
right now we have a bilaterally agreed upon OPCON transition 
program to get them to where they would take over one of my 
commands, Combined Forces Command. They are on the right 
trajectory to do that. The agreement is that it will be 
standards based and not time based, so we are moving in that 
direction, to make sure that happens.
    Senator Scott. Senator Budd brought up, and I think some 
others have brought up our military industrial complex ability 
to provide weapons. We are way behind, we know, in Taiwan. What 
do you think the Federal Government ought to be doing to make 
sure that our defense contractors move faster? Because it will 
make your lives easier, especially in Taiwan, if they had, what 
is it, $19 billion worth of arms that they have ordered that we 
have not provided to them.
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. Certainly the President's 
Budget, as it was submitted, has got a component of a multi-
year on the munitions piece, would be very helpful. I think 
sending that consistent demand signal is what industry needs. 
That said, as the most innovative Nation in the world, I would 
hope that the industrial base could take that, combined with 
other actions, and move faster.
    Senator Scott. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott.
    Senator Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Good morning, 
gentlemen.
    I have been emphasizing the importance of our partners in 
Southeast Asia, in particular, with every chief and combatant 
commander that has come before this Committee today. I think we 
can do much more to bolster these key relationships to support 
the entire Indo-Pacific region, and there are some nations that 
we have not managed those relationships in the last few decades 
in a way that we have in the past.
    In August, I plan on taking several of my colleagues to the 
Philippines, Indonesia, and Thailand, in particular, where we 
will focus especially on this issue, the many important 
opportunities that our nations have to partner together.
    Admiral Aquilino, in your testimony you highlighted 
INDOPACOM's enhanced exercises with 14 partner nations like 
Indonesia's Super Garuda Shield. But beyond these, Coral Gold, 
Garuda Shield, once-a-year, once-every-other-year exercises, in 
what other ways does your command plan to deepen cooperation 
with our allies and partners, in Southeast Asia in particular, 
including those nations that maybe we have not dealt with on a 
regular basis, like Vietnam or Cambodia, and some of the other 
nations?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, thanks, Senator. So the exercises 
certainly are a critical component, as you know. My partner, 
General Centino, in the Philippines--as a matter of fact, I am 
flying to the Philippines on Wednesday to go to an event with 
him and our Japanese counterpart. We have agreed to, across the 
region, the Chiefs of Defense and myself, to work toward more 
mini-and multi-lateral sets of engagements, whether they be 
meetings, tabletop exercise, or operations, for more consistent 
and more direct ability to operate the interoperable and to 
execute our mission sets. All for the defense of the region and 
to keep it safe.
    We are doing a ton. There are almost no events we do 
unilateral anymore. Everything is done with allies and 
partners.
    In Thailand, General Chalermpol is also a good friend and 
partner. I went to Cobra Gold kickoff, we spent some time 
together, we laid out what else we could do, and again, we 
continue to look for those opportunities.
    We are always prepared and planning for any HADR 
[Humanitarian Assistance Disaster Relief] support that might be 
needed. That is us taking care of humanity should it happen to 
any of those partners.
    So we are plugged in across the board, and I only see it 
getting more robust and more effective.
    Senator Duckworth. Yes, I think also there is intelligence 
sharing that is important. I know that Singaporeans kind of had 
a cell there that that helps with, limited intelligence 
sharing. There are so much that you can do.
    My colleague, Senator Rosen, talked a little bit about 
cyber. I informed her that in 2021, we actually passed 
legislation that authorized a pilot program that enhances 
cybersecurity partnership with our forces, with those of 
Vietnam, Thailand, and Indonesia. I am now planning on 
introducing legislation to expand this important program to 
include Malaysia and the Philippines in this year's NDAA.
    Admiral Aquilino, can you comment on the value of direct 
engagement with our overseas partners to help build their cyber 
skills? You sort of touched on this a little bit, but I think 
it is really critically important, beyond just speaking 
directly with us, but also sharing with each other within the 
region.
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, thanks, Senator. Certainly our 
ability to share information and coordinate and cooperate is 
absolutely dependent on the cybersecurity of those systems. 
Otherwise, it is just getting to places where it should not go.
    You mentioned the CTIF or the Counterterrorism Information 
Force in Singapore. It is also critical that that sharing gets 
directly into those facilities to prevent any violent 
extremism, multilateral, multi-nations, to deliver those 
effects.
    So like I said, General Nakasone has taken great strengths 
to ensure those neighborhoods have the cybersecurity they need. 
Our investment in the mission partner environment contributes 
directly through this zero-trust mindset to ensure we can do 
it.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. General LaCamera, I am really 
interested also in United States-Korea cybersecurity 
partnerships, and you mentioned this in your testimony. Can you 
expand on that a little bit here?
    General LaCamera. We are also working with General Nakasone 
and his folks, and we are also working with the South Koreans. 
We have our own mission partner environment networks for us to 
be able to communicate. It is not only important when dealing 
with the South Korean military but also in the United Nations 
Command and the Sending States, and making sure that we can 
coordinate with those countries.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I yield back, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Duckworth.
    Senator Sullivan, please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you. I think the country needs to know what an excellent job 
both of you two are doing in your respective theaters, so I 
want you to hear that from this Committee. I think both of you 
are doing exceptional work for our country.
    Last year, in the NDAA, this Committee, by the way, 
unanimously, put in a provision for a floor of 31 amphib ships, 
10 big-deck amphibs. The Commandant, a few days ago, testified 
just how important that was for force projection, crisis 
response, all over the world, for the Marine Corps and the 
Navy. How important is a robust complement of amphibs for your 
theater, both of you?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, thanks. The amphibious ready 
group as it applies with 3-ship ARGs is certainly important to 
our ability to deter as well as our ability to fight and win. I 
have articulated the requirements as it exists from INDOPACOM 
in to the CNO as part of his development approach. Now he owns 
the whole globe. So right now our requirements are met, and we 
have advocated to ensure that those requirements are not 
divested or they are somehow reduced.
    Senator Sullivan. General? Amphibs, force projection, 
crisis response, MEU-ARGs [Marine Expeditionary Unit-Amphibious 
Ready Group]?
    General LaCamera. Yes. Thanks, Senator. We live on a 
peninsula. Having that capability available allows me to give 
multiple options or multiple dilemmas to any adversary who 
would try and disrupt peace and stability in the region.
    Senator Sullivan. Admiral, we have talked about different 
kind of deterrence factors with regard to the CCP's [Communist 
Chinese Party] decision whether or not to invade Taiwan. Of 
course, there is the ability, which has already been talked 
about here, for Taiwan to defend itself, which is in the Taiwan 
Relations Act, the ability for us, if need be, called upon by 
the President to help in that regard with our allies.
    But there is also this, what I call a third level of 
deterrence, which is economic, financial, energy, to put 
forward a very comprehensive suite of sanctions with us and our 
allies to say to Xi Jinping and others, hey, if you actually 
undertake a violent military invasion of Taiwan, here are the 
massive sanctions that are going to crush your economy.
    When you think about all instruments of American power, the 
way the Chinese do, how important do you think that third level 
of deterrence could be? Because we all want deterrence. No one 
wants a war in the Taiwan Strait. But we also know if it is 
going to be started, it will be started by the Chinese. How 
important is that to look at from the level of deterrence as 
well, on military factors?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, Senator. Again, so the military lens 
is certainly my lane as it applies to this, but as I look at 
the Chinese approach for an all forms of national power assault 
on the international rules-based order. I think it is critical 
that the United States, and it is also a part of this 
integrated deterrence strategy the Secretary has tasked us. 
That all forms of national power have to come together, and the 
economic lever is a pretty big one, so I concur.
    Senator Sullivan. Admiral, you and I went to Northern Edge 
2 years ago. Impressive. There was a carrier strike group 
there, a couple hundred aircraft doing night fighting in JPARC 
[Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex], really great training for 
the whole Joint Force. Can you talk a little bit about how 
important you think Northern Edge is in Alaska for an exercise 
that brings together all of our services but also our allies, 
and what we can demonstrate up there in the great State of 
Alaska?
    General LaCamera. Yes, Senator. Northern Edge, as a matter 
of fact it is going to happen here again this year, in the not-
too-distant future. It is certainly important for us to be able 
to operate in places that we are comfortable operating. We can 
train to high-end tactics and capabilities. That said, all of 
our exercises are important across the globe. Northern Edge is 
usually one of our largest.
    Senator Sullivan. General, I was actually out, left the 
hearing here for a few hours. I greeted an honor flight from 
Alaska. They just arrived--World War II vet, Korean War vet, 
Vietnam vets. I love doing this. I never miss when the honor 
flights come in. We were at the Korean War Memorial. I want to 
publicly, and I have done it a few times, you and I have talked 
about, do a shout-out to the Korean Government and the Korean 
people who just spent over $20 million adding a very important 
element to the Korean War Memorial, which is the wall of honor, 
all the United States and Korean killed in action. I encourage 
all Americans to go look at that. I want to thank again the 
Korean Government, Korean people, because they paid for that. 
They paid for that. Pretty special.
    How is it going with the new government--I had the 
opportunity to meet with the new president recently--in terms 
of their commitment to not only defense, but one thing that I 
have seen that looks very promising is a new focus on United 
States-Korea-Japan relations, training. The trilateral aspect 
of our defense in Northeast Asia is really important. How do 
you see that going? I want to compliment the new government. 
They seem to be really putting their shoulder into that, and I 
think it helps for our deterrence and defense in the region. 
What is your view on that?
    General LaCamera. Thanks, Senator. In the last year we have 
been able to increase our combat readiness and focus, not just 
in command post exercises but at the addition of field training 
exercise. We have been able to bring in two carrier strike 
groups. We have been able to do multiple ballistic missile 
defense exercises. We talked about the other exercises that the 
admiral does inside of the theater that we have been able to 
participate in.
    President Yoon has really been focusing on combat 
readiness, and as you discussed with the trilateral piece, the 
threat is real to the region. KJU [Kim Jung-un], when he fires 
his missiles, you know, he sends messages to not only South 
Korea but to Japan and the United States on the capabilities. I 
think the President is showing tremendous leadership in the 
region to move forward to secure not just the Korean people but 
the American people.
    Senator Sullivan. The trilateral relationship is deepening 
and getting better, from your perspective?
    General LaCamera. It is. Yes, sir.
    Senator Sullivan. Great. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Schmitt.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for your service.
    Admiral, I wanted to ask, I know there has been some 
discussion, there is $19 billion worth of weapons systems that 
the Taiwanese have ordered that they have not gotten. I think 
you and I share the same belief that we need to have a greater 
sense of urgency with this, as they face a potential invasion 
from Communist China. What other weapons capabilities do you 
think, that are not going to take that long, are really 
important for the Taiwanese to have to defend themselves, that 
could get there in shorter order?
    Admiral Aquilino. Thanks, Senator. Again, without going 
into some specific systems, but again, anti-air capability, 
anti-ship capability, delivered in a variety of means, whether 
it is missiles, mines, or other things. I think there are some 
of those that, with some innovative work, could be delivered 
faster.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Admiral, a few days ago the Chinese 
Ambassador to the Philippines made some significant threats 
against Taiwan and the safety of 150,000 Filipinos living in 
Taiwan. This kind of egregious comment is exactly why many 
countries in the Indo-Pacific are deepening defense cooperation 
with the United States, as you are aware.
    In addition, China continues to conduct provocative 
operations in the South China Sea, harassing Filipino vessels 
with lasers and sailing Chinese warships near Filipino holdings 
in the South China Sea. There has been a commitment, my 
understanding, to accelerating capability development of the 
Filipino Armed Forces during the recent 2+2 meeting to include 
helping Manila acquire priority defense systems and platforms.
    Admiral, in your view what are the next steps we should 
take with the Philippines?
    Admiral Aquilino. In support of our mutual defense treaty 
we are providing a variety of capabilities and training and 
actions with the Philippines. I think the posture initiatives 
are critical. For the United States to be successful in 
executing our responsibilities for the defense of the 
Philippines, those posture initiatives, the new EDCA sites, and 
delivering that capability and infrastructure is critical. Then 
we can always continue our operation together.
    Exercise Balikatan is going on. It is the largest event in 
the region for the land component. We have also synchronized at 
sea. This particular exercise, it is led by the Marine Corps, 
but it is integral with the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force 
as a part of Balikatan.
    Those continued demonstrations and interoperability is the 
next piece we can do.
    Senator Schmitt. I think it is just such a key and 
strategic alliance for us, the Philippines. Would you support--
you mentioned infrastructure--would you support a permanent 
base on the Philippines?
    Admiral Aquilino. I think that decision, Senator, would be 
certainly critical for the Philippines. I do not think the 
Philippines are looking for permanent United States bases. That 
is their sovereign territory. I think what we would like to be 
able to do is operate with them in places that they would allow 
us to go at this point in time.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Admiral and General, Missouri, as 
you both know probably, hosts the entire operational fleet of 
the B-2 Spirit bombers. Could you both discuss, in general 
terms, the significance of the air leg of the nuclear triad to 
your deterrence missions?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, sir. Certainly the foundational 
aspect of our strategic nuclear deterrence lies in the triad. 
So the B-2s, the SSBNs and the ICBM-4s. That modernized force 
is critical to ensure that our conventional deterrent is 
foundationally based. For the China portion and the rest of the 
Indo-Pacific region, it is absolutely critical, and we 
demonstrate it, aligned with our STRATCOM partner, fairly 
frequently, and General LaCamera can talk to that.
    General LaCamera. Thanks, Senator. It poses multiple 
dilemmas. We get questioned about our ability on extended 
deterrence, and I think it is just another demonstration of the 
tremendous capability that we bring to any fight worldwide.
    Senator Schmitt. What has been the reaction from our 
friends and adversaries? What have you witnessed is their 
reaction to that capability?
    General LaCamera. For us, on the allies side, again, we are 
looking at this fight from a joint, combined interagency, 
multidomain, and this is just another arrow in our quiver that 
we continue to demonstrate. With the testing that KJU has been 
doing and the support that I get from Admiral Aquilino, and 
pushing assets, again, it is just allowing us to build combat 
readiness, which we have not been able to do.
    Admiral Aquilino. I think for the rest of the region, 
Senator, it is also important for them. The Australians have 
allowed us to do two B-2 bomber detachments out of Amberley. So 
that shows, to me, that the capability is important for them, 
as well as the rest of the region. We operate, whenever 
possible, to demonstrating that bomber capability in the 
theater.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Schmitt, and 
gentlemen, thank you. I have one additional question.
    We are currently at impasse in confirming general officers, 
including, I believe, the 7th Fleet Commander. Admiral 
Aquilino, what impact does this have on your readiness and the 
impact also on the offices involved in terms of their whole 
family situation and also their opportunities outside the 
service?
    Admiral Aquilino. Senator, thanks for that. Operationally, 
I am going to have no impact because the 7th Fleet Commander is 
not going anywhere until a proper replacement is in place. I 
think the real impact you articulated, right, it is the 
personal advancement, it is the personal development, it is the 
family understanding and predictability. Those are the places. 
So will it hinder our ability to continue to maintain the right 
people in the right jobs to be able to then potentially advance 
and take the next right job? Absolutely.
    Chairman Reed. Again, it seems a situation where, for the 
next several months, you could get by. But at that point people 
who are next in line to step up will consider other options 
outside the service. In fact, we have seen this situation in 
the Navy because of other situations. Tailhook froze an entire 
cohort of officers, other incidents in the Navy, and as a 
result, valuable individuals just could not be promoted and had 
to retire. If this persists, this will have a serious detriment 
on readiness eventually. Is that correct?
    Admiral Aquilino. That is absolutely right, Senator, or 
Chairman, and Glenn Defense Marine is the other example I would 
think you are inferring to. We did have impact to really 
quality people in a lot of cases.
    Chairman Reed. General LaCamera, any other comments in this 
regard?
    General LaCamera. No. I agree with Admiral Aquilino. I 
mean, the general officers that I have, I am not giving them 
up. But again, it does stagnate the next set of general 
officers or flag officers that are on current promotions lists 
that are not confirmed. The second and third or long-term 
effects, there will be impacts, and then when do people decide 
to leave and you might lose quality.
    So I think there is a potential long term.
    Chairman Reed. I do too, and I hope that we can move 
quickly and return to regular order and the custom, which is 
that individuals who served the Nation for 30 years or more 
have been selected based on their merit as military officers, 
not any other reason, by panels of other military officers can 
be confirmed routinely by the Senate, unless there is some 
particular, specific issue with an individual candidate. That 
is my hope.
    So thank you all, gentlemen, for your testimony today.
    [Whereupon, at 11:17 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                       h-2b visa temporary relief
    1. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, the Department of Defense has 
plans to build a significant amount of infrastructure in Guam as part 
of our ongoing realignment in the Pacific. The local construction 
capacity in Guam cannot keep up with the military's vast requirements, 
which is why the Department must be provided relief from the H-2B Visa 
temporary need requirement to allow foreign workers to work in Guam and 
support the construction needs. What will be the impact of not 
authorizing this H-2B visa temporary relief for Guam?
    Admiral Aquilino. Based on evolving program requirements in Guam, 
CNMI, and the recovery from typhoon Mawar we are requesting an extended 
relief from H-2B Visa limitations. If not authorized, the Department of 
Defense (DOD) Construction Agents (DCAs) will not be able to meet 
current or anticipated DOD timelines for construction on Guam and the 
CNMI, significantly degrading the Department's readiness posture and 
ability to respond to crisis or conflict within the Indo-Pacific area 
of operations. Costs increases well in excess of reprogramming 
thresholds are expected for currently planned DOD MILCON projects; 
although cost impact estimates are still evolving, total increased 
construction costs over the next 10 years were estimated at over 2 
billion dollars prior to typhoon Mawar.
                  training, exercises, and campaigning
    2. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, Campaigning in the Pacific 
plays a key role in our National Defense Strategy for deterring China. 
The Services are responsible for providing the forces and funds for 
your execution in the priority theatre, but based on your independent 
assessment there appears to be a significant need that the Services are 
not filling. Admiral Aquilino, there are never enough ships, planes, or 
battalions, but do you think the Services are appropriately 
prioritizing the Pacific with their Operations and Maintenance dollars?
    Admiral Aquilino. No, USINDOPACOM components lack the capability to 
project and maintain forward postured credible forces in the first 
island chain (FIC) to meet national and combatant command requirements 
to campaign and support integrated deterrence.
    Funding the campaigning components UFR would provide the command 
and the service components the capability to conduct operations in the 
first and second island chains at the time of our choosing to reassure 
allies and partners while achieving integrated deterrence.

    3. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, in what ways are you using 
Campaigning to build partnerships in the region?
    Admiral Aquilino. We build partnerships using campaigning in two 
ways: 1) persistent and capable presence to assure our allies and 
partners of our commitment to regional security; and 2) consistent 
joint and multilateral operations and exercises with our allies and 
partners that build warfighting capabilities and interoperability. 
Together, presence and combined training and operations--particularly 
those west of the International Date Line--help sustain us as the 
partner of choice in the region.

    4. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, what range modernization 
efforts and expansion of dual-use facilities do you need to best 
support INDOPACOM's training?
    Admiral Aquilino. In fiscal years 2023 to 2027, the Pacific Multi-
Doman Training and Experimentation Capability (known as ``PMTEC'') is 
investing in joint range modernization efforts at the Joint Pacific 
Alaska Range Complex, the K. Mark Takai Pacific Warfighting Center, and 
the Pacific Missile Range Facility, Hawaii. Fiscal years 2024 to 2028 
investments are focused on extending mobile capabilities west of the 
International Date Line, as well as facility infrastructure 
improvements in Japan, Guam and the Philippines. Continued investments 
in range modernization, especially in joint live, virtual, and 
constructive capabilities, cyber and space, and integration of 
artificial intelligence and machine learning across all domains is 
required to realistically rehearse joint warfighting in highly 
contested all-domain environments. To achieve these objectives, current 
U.S. training areas and ranges in the Indo-Pacific require fast-
tracking of updated environmental impact statements to ensure that 
joint training can occur regardless of what service has title 10 
responsibility for the care, maintenance, and operation of these 
facilities.
                          partners and allies
    5. Senator Hirono. Our partners and allies are our most critical 
advantage in any potential contingency with China. These relationships 
only work when they are mutually beneficial. General LaCamera, one of 
our most important allies is the Republic of Korea. How are we 
increasing interoperability between our two militaries, and between our 
other allies and partners in the region?
    General LaCamera. Our network of alliances and partnerships around 
the world is one of our greatest asymmetric advantages. The United 
States-Republic of Korea (ROK) Alliance serves as a stabilizing force, 
as well as an example to others of our Ironclad commitment. From 
individual and small unit training--developing true ``expertise in the 
basics''--to large-scale combined, bilateral, trilateral, and 
multinational exercises, we continue to sharpen our warfighting and 
combat skills. This is the foundation for our combined and joint combat 
readiness to inflict lethal and non-lethal effects in all domains as 
necessary.
    At the unit-level (2d Infantry Division (Combined) / United Nations 
Command Security Battalion--Joint Security Area), United States and ROK 
personnel exercise together often enough to make it truly routine. 
Additionally, the ROK has increased its participation in tactical 
exercises off the Korea Peninsula including 2023 events such as Red 
Flag Alaska, Service Level Training Exercise with the U.S. Marine Corps 
in 29 Palms, California, participation at the National Training Center 
with the U.S. Army, and the Rim of the Pacific Exercise (RIMPAC) along 
with several others. These events provide ample opportunities to 
improve interoperability and increase combat readiness. To achieve the 
highest State of combat readiness across the theater, however, we focus 
on exercising and improving our premier, semi-annual, theater-level 
command post exercises. These exercises allow us to evaluate combined 
capabilities, which in turn inform operational planning and allow us to 
improve our combined and joint effectiveness. Additionally, we seek 
every opportunity to increase multilateral training exercises in and 
around the region, incorporating like-minded nations and our other 
treaty allies.
    The Combined and Joint Services actively pursue opportunities to 
conduct bilateral and multilateral training to respond to wartime 
contingencies, to enhance interoperability, and build partnership 
capacity in the Indo-Pacific region. Along with combined exercises in 
the Korean Theater of Operations, Combined and Joint Services 
engagements test its Multi-Domain Operations capabilities through 
leveraging annual and biannual Joint exercises and training. These 
opportunities ensure we are well-integrated into the greater Indo-
Pacific theater. Our enhanced interoperability with strategic partners 
and Joint Service Allies is the linchpin in increasing the ability to 
fight and defend together coherently, effectively, and efficiently to 
achieve tactical, operational, and strategic objectives.
    Between the United States, the Republic of Korea, and Japan, we 
continue to look for opportunities to bolster the trilateral 
relationship, as well as the ROK-Japan bilateral relationship. During 
the historic Camp David Summit between the United States, ROK, and 
Japan in August 2023, our leaders committed to deepening trilateral 
defense cooperation. Since then, the Department has delivered on this 
commitment by approving a multi-year, trilateral exercise plan and 
fully activating a real-time DPRK missile warning data-sharing 
mechanism. We are expanding exercises to include anti-submarine 
warfare, maritime interdiction, humanitarian assistance and disaster 
relief, and ballistic missile defense. Additionally, we continue to 
incorporate multinational contributions through the United Nations 
Command to serve as an enabler and force multiplier for the Alliance.

    6. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, what is the importance of 
programs like the Blue Pacific Cooperation Initiative and the 
International Security Cooperation Program?
    Admiral Aquilino. Through the Blue Pacific Cooperative Initiative, 
USINDOPACOM works directly with our Pacific Island partners in regional 
fusion centers to identify critical areas of improvement for 
multilateral information sharing and maritime domain awareness (MDA). 
Our partners emphasize climate change, illegal, unreported, and 
unregulated (IUU) fishing, and transnational crime as priority threats 
in their areas of responsibility. Increased MDA and operational/
tactical information-sharing capabilities can create an enhanced 
network to address these threats and increase regional collaborative 
efforts. We understand the importance of bolstering--and working 
through--existing regional Pacific Island architectures and 
organizations, such as the Forum Fisheries Agency and the Fiji Maritime 
Surveillance Rescue Coordination Centre, avoiding any duplication of 
efforts in the region. Therefore, we coordinate extensively to align 
ourselves with regional and overarching U.S. Government priorities and 
initiatives, such as the Pacific Islands Forum 2050 Strategy for the 
Blue Pacific Continent, the Indo-Pacific Maritime Domain Awareness 
(IPMDA) initiative, and the Partners in the Blue Pacific Initiative. 
Our enabling partner for this program, Joint Interagency Task Force 
West (JIATF West), is uniquely positioned to implement the Blue Pacific 
Cooperative Initiative since most Pacific Island nations lack military 
capacity and rely on coordinated efforts through a law enforcement and 
inter-agency nexus. Leveraging existing partner agency relationships--
and experience in sharing law enforcement related information-JIATF 
West is a relevant partner who contributes to the overall U.S. 
Government vision for strengthening partnerships toward a resilient 
Pacific region.

    7. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, how do 
you each leverage the State Department and other whole-of-government 
partner agencies to ensure we are the region's partner of choice?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM leverages each agency's unique 
authorities and integrates the collaborative efforts of mission country 
teams and USG departments and agencies in the National Capital Region 
(NCR) to achieve unity of effort in support of the National Security 
Strategy (NSS), National Defense Strategy (NDS), National Military 
Strategy (NMS), and INDOPACOM Theater Strategy and Campaign Plan. We 
accomplish this unity of effort through the resident Foreign Policy 
Advisor and his team for State Department coordination and with the 
other assigned Liaison Officers that represent 12 other agencies. All 
of the agency advisors and LNOs are members of the INDOPACOM Joint 
Interagency Coordination Group (JIACG) in the J5 that meets bi-monthly 
during competition and daily during Crisis response.
    General LaCamera. The United States-ROK Alliance encompasses not 
only the military, but the whole-of-government partnership. We work in 
concert with all elements of national power--including diplomatic, 
economic, and intelligence activities--as part of a whole-of-government 
effort to address threats to the Homeland, our allies and partners, and 
our interests in the Indo-Pacific. I believe that contributions of non-
DOD departments and agencies are fundamental to achieving U.S. national 
security objectives and our diplomats should be in the lead for issues 
related to America's interests in the region and around the world. The 
U.S. military's presence on the Peninsula contributes to our diplomatic 
efforts to establish and maintain peace, to persuade and convince 
regional leaders, and to advance our goals for regional security and 
stability from a position of strength. We have an excellent 
relationship and interact daily with our Embassy Country Team 
counterparts and work very closely on shared issues to ensure our 
operations and activities are always nested within a broader U.S. 
Government approach. I speak with the United States Ambassador to the 
ROK on a weekly basis, and closely coordinate our actions so that we 
are able leverage our military and diplomatic efforts for a greater 
effect. Also, as the Commander, United Nations Command (UNC), I meet 
monthly with the Ambassadors of UNC Member States Through the monthly 
Ambassadors Roundtable, we foster and maintain a relationship with a 
network of 17 countries from 6 continents.
                      north korean missile threat
    8. Senator Hirono. Within the last several months, North Korea has 
continued renewed its threats of nuclear destruction to both the United 
States and the Republic of Korea. Troublingly, this has been paired 
with new developments in nuclear and missile technology. This is one 
reason I remain so closely focused on the missile defense of both 
Hawaii and Guam. General LaCamera, what is your assessment of the 
credibility of such threats?
    General LaCamera. The Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) 
is capable of delivering on threats against Guam, Hawaii, and the 
continental United States. Since January 2022, the DPRK has launched 14 
developmental long-range ballistic missiles, demonstrating the 
capability to strike Guam, Hawaii, and the entirety of North America. 
Pyongyang possesses tested nuclear devices that purportedly can pair 
with these missiles. Kim Jong-un views his nuclear missile capability 
as critical to guaranteeing the survival of his regime and almost 
certainly will resist efforts to force him to give up his arsenal now 
or in the future. A robust missile defense is one of the crucial 
components of deterring the DPRK's use of nuclear weapons. We intend to 
continue to reinforce the advances in missile defense of the ROK, as 
their capabilities enhance our combined abilities to effectively deter 
and respond to DPRK missile threats.

    9. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, how have 
you prepared your respective commands for the defense of U.S. bases and 
territories against the possibility of hypersonic missiles?
    Admiral Aquilino. Our current BMD posture is designed to defeat 
ballistic threats from rogue actors like the Democratic People's 
Republic of Korea (the DPRK). United States missile defense policy 
states that we rely on strategic deterrence for defense of the Homeland 
from near-peer advanced threats like hypersonic missiles. However, 
policy states that we will develop missile defense capabilities to 
defend against any system that may threaten our United States and 
allied interests abroad, which is why I've strongly advocated to 
accelerate capabilities like the Guam Defense System and an advanced 
radar to replace the FAA radar in Hawaii.
    General LaCamera. United Nations Command (UNC), Combined Forces 
Command (CFC), and United States Forces Korea (USFK) balance the 
hypersonic threat against ballistic and cruise missile threats. The ROK 
government approved a plan in April 2023 to move forward with a 
hypersonic missile defense system. USFK continues to work with 
USINDOPACOM and OSD (R&E) to address hypersonic and other missile 
defense capabilities to defend our homelands and develop a United 
States/ROK alliance hypersonic kill web.
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    10. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, I was pleased to hear details 
recently about the AUKUS submarine partnership with the UK and 
Australia, but note the key initiatives of the agreement are still 
several years away from fruition. Admiral Aquilino, with the loss of 
USS Connecticut to repairs until 2025 and continued delays in the 
Virginia-class construction, have you had any conversations with Navy 
leadership about permanently relocating, or rotationally deploying, 
East coast submarines to the your AOR to bolster deterrence until AUKUS 
is fully implemented?
    Admiral Aquilino. I will provide more detail in a classified 
response.

    11. Senator Hirono. Admiral Aquilino, in your professional opinion, 
do you have the requisite number of attack submarines to deter Chinese 
aggression in the Pacific region?
    Admiral Aquilino. I will provide more detail in a classified 
response.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    12. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, do you agree that if funding 
is needed for a project, it should be a part of the command/service 
budget?
    Admiral Aquilino. The funding for projects within the USINDOPACOM 
UPL does not fall within the command's annual budget; these projects 
are resourced by each of the military service budgets. USINDOPACOM 
advocates for the project funding, but does not determine funding 
levels within the services' budget submissions.

    13. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, historically, have previous 
Unfunded Priorities Lists items been included in the following year's 
base budget? Have Unfunded Priorities Lists items from fiscal year 2023 
been included in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please 
provide detail including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor 
executing the effort. If no, why not?
    Admiral Aquilino. The funding for projects within the USINDOPACOM 
UPL does not fall within the command's annual budget; these projects 
are resourced by each of the military service budgets. USINDOPACOM 
advocates for the project funding, but do not determine funding levels 
within the services' budget submissions.
      
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    14. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, do you agree that Federal 
agencies should be required to work within the confines of base budget 
process?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, I do concur. However, USINDOPACOM capability 
requirement assessments are independent of the Department's budgeting 
process. As directed by Section 1254 of the Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA, the 
USINDOPACOM requirements for capability development and posture 
initiatives are outlined in our independent assessment.

    15. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, Secretary of Defense Austin 
supports legislation that would repeal the requirement for individual 
leaders to submit unfunded priority lists under 10 U.S.C. 222a. He 
stated this publicly in a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on 
March 28, 2023 and in a letter that Under Secretary Michael J. McCord 
sent on behalf on Secretary Austin to me on March 20, 2023. Do you plan 
to continue to submit unfunded priority lists?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM will continue to submit unfunded 
priority as required by 10 USC Sec.  222a subsection (d) until 
legislation is pass to repeal such requirements.

    16. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, if you plan to submit 
unfunded priority lists in the future, why are you doing so despite 
Secretary of Defense Austin's support for the repeal of these required 
lists?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM is required by law per 10 USC Sec.  
222a subsection (d) to submit the report of Unfunded priorities to 
Congress.
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    17. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what was the cost of putting 
together this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    Admiral Aquilino. The estimate cost of the UPL report for the 
Department of Defense is approximately $42,637 in labor cost for fiscal 
year 2023.

    For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in 
response to 10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:

    18. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, please provide a detailed 
description of the Unfunded Priorities Lists.
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--Accounts for the $147 million 
shortfall that would delay the deployment of integrated air missile 
defense to Guam. The Guam Defense System is a 360-degree persistent, 
layered, air and missile defense capability to defend Guam from 
ballistic, cruise, and hypersonic missile threats. At risk is the 
timely deployment of an initial IAMD deployment and enhanced IAMD 
deployment capability by 2027.

      Joint Fires Network--This funding request will develop an 
initial Joint Fires Network (JFN) prototype for the USINDOPACOM AOR 
that will provide distributed, resilient joint tactical fire command 
and control and enable a common joint network with resilient transport 
to maximize joint kill chains.

      Mission Partner Environment--The Mission Partner 
Environment (MPE) provides USINDOPACOM the ability to securely 
communicate, collaborate, plan, and execute with multiple allies and 
partners and modernizes our headquarters, command, control, 
communication, computer and information technology infrastructure to 
assure command and control in a contested environment.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--Tomahawk Land Attack 
Missile is a long-range, all weather, jet-powered, subsonic cruise 
missile. Blk V integrates advanced navigation and guidance, and 
includes a datalink that enables the missile to switch targets while in 
flight. The Blk Va, MST, has longer range and improved seeker 
technology for dynamic targeting and maritime strike capability.

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning--Additional funding for 
campaigning provides USINDOPACOM components the additional capability 
in terms of transportation and other support costs to mass air, ground, 
maritime, and special operations forces multiple times per year as part 
of a coordinated, synchronized, set of operations and activities west 
of the international date line.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--Invests in the development 
and acquisition of fixed distributed systems that provide cuing 
information used in antisubmarine warfare.

      Military Construction-Design--Funds to be utilized for 
architectural and engineering services, and construction design in 
connection with military construction projects.

      Military Construction--Construction--Funds unspecified 
minor military construction (UMMC) to enable USINDOPACOM to leverage 
current authorities to develop and deliver footprint requirements in a 
timely manner.

      Joint Training Team--Resources to support administrative 
and logistical function of a joint training team conducting a variety 
of missions including bilateral engagements, travel, training, and 
support for foreign military sales.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--Invests in a Joint Task 
Force to coordinate USINDOPACOM activities in Micronesia. JTF-M is 
responsible for developing and executing the Micronesia Master Plan by 
integrating posture plans, military construction projects, land use 
negotiations, and other joint support activities.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--
Resources the surface-to-surface missile that replaces and improves 
upon ATACMS. PrSM will provide joint force commanders with a 24/7, all-
weather, anti-ship capability to attack critical and time sensitive 
area and point targets including threat air defense, missile launchers, 
command and control centers, assembly/staging areas and high payoff 
targets.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Funds the theater-
wide campaign of joint experiments to inform and strengthen the ability 
of joint and combined forces to execute all-domain operations in 
contested environments.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--Provides the 
increased capability for ground-based and naval long-range weapons for 
extended range to target enemy anti-surface warfare capability. This 
capability is foundational to provide combat formations with precision-
strike capabilities that are operationally decentralized and 
geographically distributed in theater.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--Upgrades Clandestine 
Delivered Mine (CDM) systems with technology improvements to enable 
placement and integration with various delivery platforms.

      Hammerhead Mine--Funds the development of an offensive 
mining system delivered from an unmanned underwater vehicle to detect, 
classify, and destroy submarine threats.

      Powered Quickstrike--Resources a family of shallow water, 
aircraft laid mines used against surface and subsurface targets. 
Powered Quickstrike (QS-P) enhances component integration and 
accelerates development through a rapid acquisition pathway.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--Resources the 
next generation of national defense space architecture to enable U.S. 
military operations and responses to emerging multi-domain threats and 
adversaries.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--Resources to develop 
access and effects for cyberspace operations.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--Upgrades the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) 
processing software with Enhanced THAAD Mission Support Element 
integration (eTMI) to greatly increase joint force integrated Air and 
Missile defense protections.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--Accelerates the 
development of space-based sensors necessary to provide persistent and 
complete coverage of air, sea, and ground-launched missile threats.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses-Funds USINDOPACOM 
theater tailored cyber sensors, tools, aids, platforms, and physical 
replication efforts to support key industrial control system 
vulnerability and mitigation efforts on DOD facilities.

      International Security Cooperation Program--Resources 
projects under Title 10 U.S.C Section 333, Train and Equip; U.S.C. 
Section 332, Institutional Capacity Building; and Maritime Security 
Initiatives (MSI) authorities. ISCP develops critical capabilities of 
allies and partners in theater to enhance integrated deterrence.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Funds the integration of 
JTF-IP with USINDOPACOM components, and FVEY partners to maximize 
resources and information sharing to develop a cogent common 
intelligence and common operational picture.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--Funds key theater 
engagements that advance both military-to-military and civil-military 
activities to counter malign influence in the Indo Pacific.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--Resources relocation and 
recruiting incentives directly associated with USINDOPACOM's mission as 
detailed in the National Defense Strategy (NDS).

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program--
Resources the Joint Training Plan (JTP) and Joint Exercise Program 
(JEP), key elements of INDOPACOM's Campaign Plan to provide trained and 
ready joint forces. JEP events put aggregated combat formations in 
position to conduct operations and activities to strengthen deterrence, 
assure allies and partners, counter adversary coercive actions, and 
increase ally and partner interoperability.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--This request resources 
enhancements to the U.S. Army Pacific (USARPAC) Processing, 
Exploitation, and Dissemination (PED) Center to enable greater 
operational capacity to process, exploit, and disseminate intelligence 
mission data to the warfighter. The Pacific PED Center is focused on 
maintaining custody of Peer Adversary ground targets and Joint targets. 
It complements other PED Centers by providing federated and surge 
capacity during a crisis or conflict in the INDOPACOM area of 
responsibility and can support theaters.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--Establish a 
Secure and survivable TS/SCI Warfighter Architecture to provide 
resilient network connectivity, interoperability, transport, data 
storage, and forward edge processing to support all aspects of 
USINDOPACOM C5ISRT in a degraded or denied communications environment 
across the region.

      Information Operations--Effort provides resource to 
implement programs and tools to increase the command's focus on 
competition and domination in the information environment through 
sustained Information Operations Military Information Support 
Operations (MISO), Operational Security (OPSEC) and Military Deception 
(MILDEC).

    19. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what does the Unfunded 
Priorities Lists purchase?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--Live Fire Test from Guam; Initial 
IAMD Deployment (AN/TPX-X1) Aegis Guam System, Expeditionary Command 
Center, C2BMC Downloadable Client, Mk-41 Vertical Launching Station, 
MRC Prototype, Sentinel A4 radar, and IBCS; Coordinated Defense against 
HGVs, BMs, MaRVs, and CMs; 360-degree persistent integrated air and 
missile defense against all threat classes.

      Joint Fires Network--The request will field initial 
development and deployment of 28 prototype Joint Fires Network nodes 
across the USINDOPACOM AOR, to include the integration of Assault 
Breaker II capabilities. It will also include funding to stand up a 
Joint Program / Integration Office to continue development and sustain 
the prototypes.

      Mission Partner Environment--USINDOPACOM is purchasing 
hardware components for Multi Domain Delivery and Mission Partner 
Environment zero trust hardening; a combination of COTS and open source 
software; and integration services for COTS and GOTS software and 
datasets already developed. Funding will also be used to handle 
development, integration, and deployment of the systems.

      Campaigning--This request will provide components the 
ability to conduct operations and vary the scale, size, and duration of 
these operations in the USINDOPCOM AOR. This funds the transportation 
and other support costs to mass air, ground, maritime, and special 
operations forces.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--This funding increases 
new production of Blk Va missiles and accelerates conversation of 
existing inventory, which includes both recertification and 
modernization of Blk IV missiles. It funds recertification of 
mechanical and electrical components and missile capsule, consumables, 
fuse components, armed firing devices (AFD). It also funds 
modifications for weapon modernization, to include: Navigation 
Communication (NAVCOMS) upgrade and integration of new seeker kit 
hardware (upgrades sensors, nosecone, ULTRA processing, cooling pump 
and plumbing, bulkhead, power and signal harnesses, power supply, 
electrical chase insulators, telemetry unit, wiring, hybrid homopolar 
permanent magnet generator, and primary power interface (PPI) unit).

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--The specific end item is a 
more capable set of undersea sensors that can detect adversary and 
regional maritime activity. In general, these funds are accelerating 
the cost profile to achieve IOC sooner than currently planned.

      Military Construction--Funds planning and design 
activities of PDI initiatives as well as projects of interest that 
close infrastructure gaps in the Guam Cluster, Australia, Philippines, 
Japan, and Hawaii projects to advance USINDOPACOM's posture 
requirements.

      Joint Training Team--Funds additional resources for 
administrative, transportation, and logistical expenses associated with 
the training team.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--Funds personnel that will 
serve as the foundation for the JTF-M. Additional costs will support 
the renovation of office space on Guam, travel, per diem, and IT 
services required for the initial stand-up in Hawaii and Guam.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--
Provides procurement for accelerated fielding of Increment 2 and RDT&E 
for Increment 4 development to enable fielding in operationally 
relevant quantities by fiscal year 2027.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--This funds the 
ability to conduct Joint International Experimentation. JIE is centered 
on Taiwan self-defense, taking existing or relatively mature 
technologies to demonstrate systems that Taiwan may obtain to bolster 
deterrence in the Taiwan Strait.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--Provide RDT&E for 
SM-6 Blk IB missile development and integration. Additionally, this 
request funds increase production startup cost, procurement of 
additional canisters (Mk-29 Mod 1), and production and engineering 
support.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--CDMs are shallow-water mines 
that compliment aerial mining capabilities and are emplaced 
clandestinely via unmanned undersea and surface delivery platforms. 
Increment 1 enables delivery by unmanned systems and vessels of 
opportunity, to enable access to contested environments. Increment 2 
enables remote arming and reverse arming.

      Hammerhead Mine--The Hammerhead Maritimes Mine is a 
moored encapsulated torpedo (Mk-54) that has the capability to detect, 
classify, and engage anti-submarine warfare targets. The funding 
request accelerates procurement of Hammerhead maritime mine components, 
integrates technology upgrades and increase production to enable 
fielding in operationally relevant quantities by fiscal year 2027.

      Powered Quickstrike--Powered Quickstrike (QS-P) is an 
enhanced standoff aerial variant of the Mk-62 Quickstrike mine that 
provides any JDAM-enabled aircraft with a long-range mining capability. 
Capitalizing on development and acquisition efficiencies of the 
Quickstrike-Extended Range (QS-ER) variant, QS-P integrates upgraded 
technology, a powered wing kit, and alternate warhead to significantly 
increase range and lethality.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--This funding is 
for additional resourcing needed to expand two U.S. Space Force 
capabilities. Though the details are classified to protect our military 
advantages, each effort produces unique and complimentary advantages to 
USINDOPACOM Joint Force Commanders as well as to USSPACECOM's area of 
operations.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--The funding is for 
additional resourcing needed to operationalize and expand non-kinetic 
effects in and through cyberspace.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--This funding will integrate the THAAD weapon system with 
the MSE effector to provide enhanced missile defense capabilities.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--Funding 
accelerates the fielding of a classified capability. USINDOPACOM 
requires a network of space-based sensors necessary to provide 
persistent and complete coverage of air, sea, and ground-launched 
missile threats

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--Funds additional 
resources needed to improve sensing in USINDOPACOM networks and enhance 
the ability to defend against the volume, velocity, and variety of 
threats to military networks.

      International Security Cooperation Program--The requested 
11 fiscal year 2024 SSCI projects not marked with full funding cover a 
variety of capabilities for the partner nations.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Funding will support the 
expansion of existing secure area capabilities by retrofitting what was 
built under Project P-200 and in 2010, and converting an unsecure area 
to a space suitable for secure mission operations, equipped with 
secured rooms and secured video teleconference (SVTC) capability. The 
proposed enhancement will increase capacity to (45) workstation, and 
facilitate expanded analysis, planning and synchronization.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--APRI is a USINDOPACOM-
specific initiative that utilizes Operations and Maintenance, Navy 
(OMN) funding for the expansion of U.S. military security cooperation 
activities with partner nations. The capabilities developed deepen 
mission partnership and interoperability through subject matter expert 
exchanges, exercises, and conferences.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--Incentives and inducements to 
compel highly qualified talent to accept an employment opportunities at 
the USINDOPACOM headquarters.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program (JTEEP)--
The $69.935 million will address discrete shortfalls in six priority 
joint exercises: Freedom Shield, Ulchi Freedom Shield, Balikatan, Cobra 
Gold, Tempest Wind, Garuda Shield.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Resources will provide 
an increase in contracted labor at the Pacific PED Center.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--This 
investment will provide: (1) a TS//SCI Regional cloud enabled storage 
and compute capability in the theater; (2) a fixed Sub-Regional data 
storage;/compute nodes and expeditionary nodes; and (3) a secure 
satellite communications kits and associated support equipment for data 
transport. It will enable the Joint/Combined Force to leverage critical 
intelligence data essential to the Joint Targeting and Fires 
architecture across the theater.

      Information Operations--Enhances Military Information 
Support Operations (MISO) and interagency collaboration capacity, 
increases digital and print presence from 11 to 15 regional languages 
for the Indo-Pacific Defense Forum (IPDF), expands collaboration and 
capacity with Radio Free Asia, increases use of traditional media in 
Oceania, funds assessments of USINDOPACOM in the information 
environment, development of camouflage, concealment, and deception 
(CC&D) capabilities.

    20. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, please include detail on all 
end items with quantities, contractor Full Time Equivalent, etc.
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--This includes various integration 
efforts and quantities for the items associated with Guam Defense 
System.

      Joint Fires Network--This funding procures 28 prototype 
systems, the vendor is to yet be determined.

      Mission Partner Environment--
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      Campaigning--No specific end times are purchased with 
this request.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--This funding increases 
new production of Blk Va and accelerates conversation of existing 
inventory, which includes both recertification and modernization of Blk 
IV missiles. It funds recertification of mechanical and electrical 
components and missile capsule, consumables, fuse components, armed 
firing devices (AFD). It also funds modifications for weapon 
modernization, to include: Navigation Communication (NAVCOMS) upgrade 
and integration of new seeker kit hardware (upgrades sensors, nosecone, 
ULTRA processing, cooling pump and plumbing, bulkhead, power and signal 
harnesses, power supply, electrical chase insulators, telemetry unit, 
wiring, hybrid homopolar permanent magnet generator, and primary power 
interface (PPI) unit).

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--Undersea sensors

      Military Construction--
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      Joint Training Team--Funds additional resources for 
administrative, transportation, and logistical expenses associated with 
the training team.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--This will resource the 
labor, travel and per-diem of a 42-person Joint Task Force.


      
      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--
Provides procurement for accelerated fielding of Increment 2 and RDT&E 
for Increment 4 development to enable fielding in operationally 
relevant quantities by fiscal year 2027.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Experimentation 
execution funds manpower for experiment planning, execution, and 
reporting. Second, it funds material, both commercial and government 
off the shelf items, required to execute international experiments to 
include support equipment and/or developmental software and systems for 
potential leave-behind capabilities. Finally, it funds the logistics 
required to deploy, install, and remove any equipment required for 
Joint International Experimentations.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--Upgrades to 
airframe, propulsion, and guidance systems, and redesigned 21-inch 
motor that substantially increases the missile range and speed.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--This funding request 
accelerates both development and procurement efforts in order to field 
in operationally relevant quantities within the FYDP.

      Hammerhead Mine--The funding request accelerates 
procurement of Hammerhead maritime mine components, integrates 
technology upgrades and increase production to enable fielding in 
operationally relevant quantities by fiscal year 2027.

      Powered Quickstrike--The funding will enable accelerating 
of acquisition planning, systems engineering, contract, and procurement 
planning and integrate propulsion module and wing kits, conduct initial 
testing, and demonstrate early prototyping. These efforts, if funded in 
fiscal year 2024 will enable the service the ability to rapidly 
demonstrate early operational capability and meet the USINDOPACOM 
requirements and timelines for fielding and operational use.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--The specific end 
items are described in the classified USINDOPACOM Section 1254 annex, 
with specific fiscal year 2024 funding at $66 million and $209 million 
respectively. In general, these funds are expanding current efforts 
across two lines of effort by the U.S. Space Force.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--The specific end 
items are primarily software code and tailored mission-specific access-
enabling hardware.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--The end items are software modifications to existing 
THAAD weapons system baseline. No additional hardware items other than 
potential specific test equipment and/or assets, are required for the 
end item weapon system.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--The specific end 
items are described in the classified USINDOPACOM Section 1254 annex. 
In general, these funds are accelerating the cost profile by 1 year to 
achieve Initial Operational Capabilities sooner than previous plans.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--Three types of end 
items:

      o  Alternate sensors

      o  Cyber navigation aids

      Analytical Collaborative Environment for Cyber

      Cyber Attribution at Scale

      Augury for threat hunting

      Packet Forensics

      SENTRYNODE

      Scaled defensive cyber support

      Pacific Ecosystem for cyber

      SIPRNet Hardening

      International Security Cooperation Program--Training, 
support equipment, infrastructure support, communications equipment, 
equipment recapitalization, cybersecurity, boats, vehicles, and 
airframes.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Hardware components of the 
SCIT networks (servers, laptops, routers, firewalls, and network 
equipment) are already available and awaiting installation.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--The ability to leverage and 
persuade prospective candidates to accept USINDOPACOM vacant civilian 
headquarters positions.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program (JTEEP)--
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      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Resources will provide 
an increase in contracted labor at the Pacific PED Center.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--Specific 
hardware is to be determined. This investment will provide: (1) a TS//
SCI Regional cloud enabled storage and compute capability in the 
theater; (2) a fixed Sub-Regional data storage;/compute nodes and 
expeditionary nodes; and (3) a secure satellite communications kits and 
associated support equipment for data transport. It will enable the 
Joint/Combined Force to leverage critical intelligence data essential 
to the Joint Targeting and Fires architecture across the theater.

      Information Operations--Increased regional presence, IPDF 
content expansion, add Mongolian language services to Radio Free Asia 
while expanding Oceania coverage, create USINDOPACOM OIE assessments 
branch, establish a team of 3 planners to conduct and assess event 
series, CC&D equipment for U.S. and A&P use.

    21. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what specific capability will 
the Unfunded Priorities Lists provide?
    Admiral Aquilino.
      Guam Defense System--Provides MDA funding resources to 
remain on schedule for delivery of the following requirement:

      a)  Live Fire Test from Guam

      b)  Initial IAMD deployment (AN/TPY--X1), Aegis Guam System, 
Expeditionary Command Center, C2BMC Downloadable Client, Mk-41 Vertical 
Launching Station, MRC Prototype, Sentinel A4 radar, and IBCS.

      Joint Fires Network--The JFN will provide the Joint Force 
the prototype capability to plan, synchronize, and execute all-domain 
fires at speed and scale in a major conflict against a peer adversary.

      Mission Partner Environment--USINDOPACOM seeks to 
modernize our HQ C4IT by fielding a secure environment that delivers 
multiple information domains on a single pane of glass. This capability 
will be available to an initial 1,200 HQ users by December 2023. 
Without additional resources we cannot extend this environment to our 
Joint Intelligence Operations Center (JIOC) which currently operates 
legacy NIPR and SIPR services provided by the Defense Intelligence 
Agency (DIA)

      Campaigning--The land and maritime component forces can 
conduct long duration multi-domain activities inside the first island 
chain, including joint all-domain multi-integrated air missile defense 
live fire exercises. The air component can conduct USAF's distributed 
Agile Combat Employment (ACE) training and validation events. Special 
operations forces can establish special operation task forces inside 
the FIC to conduct integrated deterrence activities that normalize the 
presence of special operations forces in theater.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--The Blk Va MST will 
integrate improved seeker technology for dynamic targeting and maritime 
strike capability.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--This will provide the 
capability to detect maritime assets and provide a key input to all-
domain battlespace awareness to the Joint Force Commander. More 
specific capability information is available at a higher classification 
level.

      Military Construction--Funds planning and design 
activities of PDI initiatives as well as projects of interest that 
close infrastructure gaps in the Guam Cluster, Australia, Philippines, 
Japan, and Hawaii projects to advance USINDOPACOM's posture 
requirements.

      Joint Training Team--This will allow for the 
synchronization of USINDOPACOM partner training, as well as for 
operations and the integration of critical capabilities to rapidly 
build the partner's defense capabilities across all seven joint 
functions.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--JTF-M will coordinate 
USINDOPACOM activities in Micronesia and be responsible for developing 
and executing the Micronesia Master Plan. The JTF will serve as the 
operational commander responsible for joint support activities 
necessary to execute All Domain Command and Control, Assault Breaker 
II, and oversee the integration of associated developmental 
technologies.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--The 
PrSM Inc 2 and Inc 4 significantly enhance targeting, lethality, and 
range. Increment 2 adds a multi-mode seeker used to engage moving land 
and maritime targets. Increment 4 doubles the standoff distance of 
earlier increments and includes the capability to engage land and 
maritime targets.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--This funds the 
ability to conduct Joint International Experimentation. JIE is centered 
on Taiwan self-defense, taking existing or relatively mature 
technologies to demonstrate systems that Taiwan may obtain to bolster 
deterrence in the Taiwan Strait.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--The SM-6 Blk IB 
provide long-range capability by implementing upgraded software and 
replacing the existing Mk-104 Dual-Thrust Rocket Motor with a new 21-
inch rocket motor. The upgrades enables an anti-surface warfare 
capability delivered at hypersonic speed and significantly increases 
range.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--CDMs are shallow-water mines 
that compliment aerial mining capabilities and are emplaced 
clandestinely via unmanned undersea and surface delivery platforms. 
Increment 1 enables delivery by unmanned systems and vessels of 
opportunity, to enable access to contested environments. Increment 2 
enables remote arming and reverse arming.

      Hammerhead Mine--The Hammerhead Maritimes Mine is a 
moored encapsulated torpedo (Mk-54) that has the capability to detect, 
classify, and engage anti-submarine warfare targets.

      Powered Quickstrike--Powered Quickstrike (QS-P) is an 
enhanced standoff aerial variant of the Mk-62 Quickstrike mine that 
provides any JDAM-enabled aircraft with a long-range mining capability.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--This funding is 
for additional resourcing needed to expand two U.S. Space Force 
capabilities. Though the details are classified to protect our military 
advantages, each effort produces unique and complimentary advantages to 
USINDOPACOM Joint Force Commanders as well as to USSPACECOM's area of 
operations.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--This capability 
focuses on four lines of effort that enhance cyberspace access and 
effect capabilities specific to USINDOPACOM needs.

      o  Near-term access operationalization: Specific classified 
access and effect capabilities that would be available to be 
operationalized in the near-term.

      o  Mid-term modification to Joint Cyber Access Platform: 
Leveraging USCYBERCOM's program of record to sustain key classified 
offensive cyber efforts.

      o  Acceleration and expansion of a key classified effort with a 
history of providing non-kinetic effects solutions to difficult 
problems.

      o  Focused enabling options: The ORION platform (details 
classified) to expand the scale and utility of DOD cyber operations 
needed in the Indo-Pacific region.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--Enhanced THAAD-MSE integration. This upgrade will greatly 
increase joint force integrated Air and Missile defense protection in 
the short-term with software upgrades.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--Funds the 
development and operationalization of space-based sensors critical to 
providing battlespace awareness information in the Indo-Pacific. This 
UPL supports the acceleration of one key classified capability critical 
to meeting USINDOPACOM operational and tactical custody needs.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--USINDOPACOM theater 
tailored cyber sensors, tools, aids, platforms, and physical 
replication efforts to support key industrial control system 
vulnerability and mitigation efforts on DOD facilities.

      International Security Cooperation Program--Provides 
variety of capabilities for the partner nations and increase 
collaboration.

      o  Philippines Counter-Terrorism

      o  Thailand Border Security

      o  Thailand Counter Terrorism

      o  Timor Leste Maritime Security

      o  Papau New Guinea Maritime Security

      o  Sri Lanka Maritime Security

      o  Indonesia Asymmetric Maritime Domain Awareness

      o  Vanuatu Border Security

      o  Nepal Disaster Management Institutional Capacity Building

      o  Nepal Defense Professionalization Institutional Capacity 
Building

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Expansion of the existing 
Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) to adequately 
accommodate the necessary Special Operations Force (SOF), conventional 
and interagency personnel for planning, analysis and synchronization at 
the Top Secret (TS) level.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--APRI is a USINDOPACOM-
specific initiative that utilizes Operations and Maintenance, Navy 
(OMN) funding for the expansion of U.S. military security cooperation 
activities with partner nations. The capabilities developed deepen 
mission partnership and interoperability through subject matter expert 
exchanges, exercises, and conferences.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--Incentives and inducements to 
compel highly qualified talent to accept employment opportunities at 
the USINDOPACOM headquarters.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program (JTEEP)--
The $69.935 million will address discrete shortfalls in six priority 
joint exercises: Freedom Shield, Ulchi Freedom Shield, Balikatan, Cobra 
Gold, Tempest Wind, Garuda Shield.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Resources will provide 
an increase in contracted labor at the Pacific PED Center.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--This 
investment will provide: (1) a TS//SCI Regional cloud enabled storage 
and compute capability in the theater; (2) a fixed Sub-Regional data 
storage;/compute nodes and expeditionary nodes; and (3) a secure 
satellite communications kits and associated support equipment for data 
transport. It will enable the Joint/Combined Force to leverage critical 
intelligence data essential to the Joint Targeting and Fires 
architecture across the theater.

      Information Operations--Military Information Support 
Operations (MISO) employment assures A&Ps, counter's adversary dis/
misinformation and amplifies USG narratives that seek to gain and 
maintain information environment advantages while delivering integrated 
deterrence.

    22. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what gap will this fill that 
is not in the base budget?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--This will fill the requirement to 
continue the integration for various missile defense programs to 
provide a 360 degree layered defense against ballistic, hypersonic and 
maneuvering missile threats.

      Joint Fires Network--This will provide the rapid 
development of a capability to integrate joint fires command and 
control.

      Mission Partner Environment--This will provide secure 
mobile/deployable C4IT solution capable of delivering multiple 
information domains in support of USINDOPACOM operational requirements.

      Campaigning--This will provide USINDOPACOM components the 
resourcing to increase the size, scale, scope and duration of 
operations west of the international date line.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--This will provide joint 
long-range, multi-domain fires critical to conducting contingency 
operations in the Indo-Pacific, specifically engaging high priority 
adversary naval combatants at range from surface ships, submarines, 
unmanned systems and land based launchers.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--The additional funding 
will provide upgraded undersea sensing arrays in the Indo-Pacific.

      Military Construction--This funds additional MILCON 
planning and design activities of PDI initiatives as well as projects 
of interest that close infrastructure gaps in the Guam Cluster, 
Australia, Philippines, Japan, and Hawaii projects to advance 
USINDOPACOM's posture requirements.

      Joint Training Team--Funds additional resources for 
administrative, transportation, and logistical expenses associated with 
the training team.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--This funds personnel that 
will serve as the foundation for the JTF-M. Additional costs will 
support the renovation of office space on Guam, travel, per diem, and 
IT services required for the initial stand-up in Hawaii and Guam.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--PrSM 
increment 2 enables engagements with both land and maritime emitting 
targets and increment 4 doubles the range of earlier increments. Both 
increments help to address critical capability gaps and are key 
components of joint long-range, multi-domain fires critical to 
conducting contingency operations in the Indo-Pacific.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Experimentation 
execution funds manpower for experiment planning, execution, and 
reporting. Second, it funds material, both commercial and government 
off the shelf items, required to execute international experiments. 
Finally, it funds the logistics required to deploy, install, and remove 
any equipment required for Joint International Experimentations.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--This provides U.S. 
Naval surface ships with highly capable hypersonic anti-ship missiles 
to respond to and engage high priority adversary naval combatants at 
range.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--This capability addresses 
operational needs stated in USINDOPACOM Joint Emergent Operational Need 
(JEON) PC-0012, the Joint Maritime Mining (JMM) Initial Capabilities 
Document (ICD), the Navy's Subsea Seabed Warfare (SSW) ICD, and the 
last five USINDOPACOM Integrated Priorities Lists (IPL) submissions.

      Hammerhead Mine--A baseline Hammerhead Mine is currently 
in development. However, current funding is inadequate to procure and 
sustain mine components and effectors, incorporate technology upgrades 
to expand the target library to include surface targets, enable 
advanced command and control, integrate interface components for the 
unmanned delivery payload module, provide a surface delivery option, 
and field in operationally relevant quantities within the FYDP.

      Powered Quickstrike--Powered Quickstrike (QS-P) is an 
enhanced standoff aerial variant of the Mk-62 Quickstrike mine that 
provides any JDAM-enabled aircraft with a long-range mining capability. 
The joint force requires advanced maritime mines delivered at the 
significantly greater standoff distances than the current in-service 
mines critical to executing contingency operations in the Indo-Pacific.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--Funds the 
operationalization of vital near-term space system that greatly 
improves U.S. forces and platform survivability. This UPL item supports 
the expansion of two capabilities critical to integrated deterrence, 
and if deterrence fails, to ensure the joint force is postured to fight 
and win.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--This UPL supports 
programs resourcing offensive cyberspace operations access and effects 
capabilities needed in the USINDOPACOM area of operations. It focuses 
on the expansion of four areas of effect that enable the joint force to 
project power in and through cyberspace, which are needed to achieve 
integrated deterrence, and if deterrence fails, to ensure the joint 
force is postured to fight and win through non-kinetic effects.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--THAAD limitations are held at the classified level to 
ensure our adversary cannot exploit them.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--Current systems 
are baselined in PB24, funding is required to accelerate availability 
to critical time to deter adversary.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--This funding will 
improve the detection of current steady-State cyber threats to the 
Joint Force.

      International Security Cooperation Program--This funding 
will improve collaboration with Allies and Partners, enhancing the 
United States asymmetric advantage.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--USINDOPACOM requires the 
capability to adequately analyze, plan and synchronize activities among 
SOF, conventional force, and interagency partners, and will lose the 
ability to strengthen relationship with allies and partners, 
relationships that represent a key component of U.S. national power.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--APRI is a USINDOPACOM-
specific initiative that utilizes Operations and Maintenance, Navy 
(OMN) funding for the expansion of U.S. military security cooperation 
activities with partner nations. The capabilities developed deepen 
mission partnership and interoperability through subject matter expert 
exchanges, exercises, and conferences.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--This is a critical headquarters 
manpower gap, which directly impacts our ``to be 2025'' vision that is 
strategically enables integrated deterrence.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program (JTEEP)--
The $69.935 million will address discrete shortfalls in six priority 
joint exercises: Freedom Shield, Ulchi Freedom Shield, Balikatan, Cobra 
Gold, Tempest Wind, Garuda Shield.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Resources will provide 
an increase in contracted labor at the Pacific PED Center.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--This 
investment will provide: (1) a TS//SCI Regional cloud enabled storage 
and compute capability in the theater; (2) a fixed Sub-Regional data 
storage;/compute nodes and expeditionary nodes; and (3) a secure 
satellite communications kits and associated support equipment for data 
transport. It will enable the Joint/Combined Force to leverage critical 
intelligence data essential to the Joint Targeting and Fires 
architecture across the theater.

      Information Operations--This will allow USINDOPACOM to 
operate in the information environment. Current funding does not 
account for strategic competition with two major powers and one rogue 
State.

    23. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how will this capability 
support objectives outlined in current National Security, Military, and 
Defense Strategy documents?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--GDS is critical to Defend the 
Homeland as directed in the National Military Strategy and protect 
United States capabilities in Guam allowing for increased power 
projection west of the international date line.

      Joint Fires Network--The JFN provides a significant 
warfighting advantage that will allows U.S. Forces to transition 
quickly from competition to contingency operations.

      Mission Partner Environment--The MPE provides the 
advanced technologies to improve coordination and collaboration with 
our allies and partners over secured communications infrastructure.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--This capability greatly 
increases the lethality of the Joint Force against peer adversary naval 
forces. It supports UNINDOPACOM's strategic approach to ``Seize the 
Initiative'' against near-peer adversaries through the presence of 
combat-credible deterrence and is a critical capability needed to 
achieve the objectives set forth in the 2022 National Defense Strategy 
(NDS).

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning--Theater campaigning provides 
USINDOPACOM and Service Components the ability to conduct operations 
within the first and second island chains at the time of our choosing 
to influence and shape behavior throughout the theater to reassure our 
allies and partners, keep competitors guessing, and achieve integrated 
deterrence. This effort supports the National Defense Strategy's 
approach to strengthen alliances and attract new partners.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--Undersea sensors are used 
to support USINDOPACOM decisionmaking throughout the competition, 
crisis, and conflict spectrum. Due to the large geographical area of 
the Indo-Pacific AOR, these sensors are critical to freeing up other 
resources that may otherwise be required to hold custody of key 
adversary capabilities. Funding the acceleration of this capability 
decreases the joint force commander's risk in executing assigned plans 
by freeing up additional resources.

      Military Construction--It enables the required design 
activities that ensure forward progress toward execution-ready designs 
and unspecified minor military construction projects that advance 
posture interests in the Guam Cluster, Australia, Philippines, Japan, 
and Hawaii. The capabilities provided by this UFR make forward progress 
in closing existing infrastructure gaps associated with USINDOPACOM's 
posture interests.

      Joint Training Team--This capability directly supports 
the National Defense Strategy and USINDOPACOM Theater Campaign Plan and 
will allow USINDOPACOM to rapidly develop critical partner capabilities 
by synchronizing and complementing USG efforts.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--JTF-M will be organized to 
provide a single, responsible headquarters to provide Senior Military 
Officer oversight and alignment of operations; manage the expansion of 
U.S. capabilities through Guam, the Federated States of Micronesia, and 
the Compact of Freely Associated States; and provide the nucleus of a 
scalable command and control element that can address future 
sustainment and warfighting initiatives based in Micronesia.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--
Fielding PrSM inc 2 and 4 will enable the ability to deter and deny 
adversary combat maneuverability, air defense operations, and maritime 
operations. This capability supports USINDOPACOM's strategic approach 
to ``Seize the Initiative'' against near-peer adversaries through the 
presence of combat-credible deterrence and is a critical capability 
needed to achieve the objective set forth in the NDS.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--JEI support the 
following objectives:

      o  Accelerate implementation of the Joint Warfighting Concept

      o  Enable Combatant Command Theater Security Cooperation Strategy

      o  Support collaboration and promote interoperability with the 
Joint Force and partner nations through Science & Technology (S&T)

      o  Experiment with leading edge, disruptive technologies, and 
proposed Concepts of Operation (CONOP), in a relevant, Indo-Pacific 
operations and exercise;

      o  Enrich technical assessments through integration into 
multinational coalition exercises

      o  Focus innovations efforts on Taiwan Self-Defense enhancements

      o  Accelerate Key USINDOPACOM programs.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--The capability 
greatly increases the lethality of Navy surface ships against peer 
adversary naval forces. It supports USINDOPACOM's strategic approach to 
``Seize the Initiative'' against near-peer adversaries through the 
presence of combat-credible deterrence and is a critical capability 
needed to achieve the objectives set forth in the 2022 NDS.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--CDMs will provide the Joint 
Force the capability to clandestinely emplace minefields in key areas 
of the battlespace in order to limit adversary submarine access and 
significantly reduce their capability to hold U.S. and allied naval 
forces at risk. This capability supports USINDOPACOM's strategic 
approach to ``Seize the Initiative'' against near-peer adversaries 
through the presence of combat-credible deterrence and is a key 
component needed to achieve the objectives set forth in the 2022 NDS.

      Hammerhead Mine--The Hammerhead mine provides the Joint 
Force the capability to mine key areas of the battlespace in order to 
limit adversary submarine access and significantly reduce their 
capability to hold U.S. and allied Naval forces at risk. This 
capability supports USINDOPACOM's strategic approach to ``Seize the 
Initiative'' against near-peer adversaries through the presence of 
combat-credible deterrence and is a key component needed to achieve the 
objectives set forth in the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS).

      Powered Quickstrike--Advanced maritime mining options 
like QS-P can significantly disrupt adversary operational timelines, 
allow greater time for joint forces to flow into the theater, and 
provide an extended opportunity for joint force fires to attrite 
adversary maritime vessels. Additionally, the increased stand-off range 
and target selection performance will mitigate significant risk to 
force in a peer-competitor contingency. This capability supports 
USINDOPACOM's strategic approach to ``Seize the Initiative'' against 
near-peer adversaries through the presence of combat-credible 
deterrence and is a key component needed to achieve the objective set 
forth in the 2022 NDS.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--Operationalizing 
near-term space control capabilities will ensure the joint force has 
the ability to leverage cutting edge capabilities to enable joint force 
movement and survivability against a growing threat. Funding these 
capabilities decrease the Joint Force Commander's risk in executing 
assigned plans.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--These capabilities 
provide deterrence and response options throughout the spectrum of 
conflict and provide alternate ways to achieve desired effects. This 
enhancement will ensure the potential gain of these operations can be 
achieved in the near-and mid-term timelines as USCYBERCOM continues to 
build out its Joint Cyber Warfighting Architecture.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--Improved THAAD capability support enhanced missile 
warning, tracking, and ultimately prosecution against advanced missile 
threats. This enhanced capability not only directly protects the joint 
force, but also provides deterrent value when demonstrating assured 
defeat capabilities of joint missile defense systems.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--This space-based 
sensor will be used to support USINDOPACOM decisionmaking throughout 
the competition, crisis, and conflict spectrum. Due to the large 
geographical area of the Indo-Pacific AOR and threats to airborne 
systems, space-based sensors are optimum for providing coverage and 
increase revisit rate of key operational areas.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--Cyber security and 
network defenses underpin USINDOPACOM operations. These enhancements 
will address the top priority areas identified to secure USINDOPACOM 
network and enable cyberspace operations throughout the competition, 
crisis, and conflict spectrum.

      International Security Cooperation Program--Systematic 
engagements and training events associated with developing these 
capabilities will sustain critical bilateral relationships in the Indo-
Pacific, supporting strategic objectives of strengthening Allies and 
Partners and aid in the Department's efforts by deterring strategic 
competitors in the Indo-Pacific region.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--The mission of JTF-IP is 
to conduct special operations in the Indo-Pacific, degrade regional 
threat networks, and support integrated deterrence, which supports the 
National Defense Strategy's guidance to employ irregular capabilities 
to increase a competitor's perception of risk, build ally and partner 
capacity to deny and remain resilient in the face of malign activities 
in the gray zone, and act directly and indirectly in low or non-
attributable ways to complicate and compromise competitor actions.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--APRI supports the 
National Defense Strategy and USINDOPACOM's approach to strengthen 
alliances and attract new partners through security cooperation 
initiatives.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--Enables USINDOPACOM to hire 
critical civilian talent and skill sets who otherwise might decline 
opportunities to work on the USINDOPACOM headquarters. This supports 
integrated deterrence as outlined in the National Defense Strategy.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program--JTEEP is 
included in the Pacific Deterrence Initiative and is a key capability 
in USINDOPACOM's Seize the Initiative approach to prevent conflict 
through the execution of integrated deterrence, and should deterrence 
fail, be prepared to fight and win. JTEEP is a key DOD lever for 
strategic competition across the continuum of conflict, consistent with 
key National Strategic, Defense, and Military guidance.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Additional resources 
will support targeting and joint fires by identifying, tracking, and 
maintaining custody of assigned targets.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--The proposed 
investment will enable USINDOPACOM to operate in a degraded 
communication environment.

      Information Operations--USINDOPACOM employs IO to assure 
A&Ps, counter adversary dis/misinformation, and amplify USG narratives 
that seek to gain and maintain information environment advantages and 
deliver integrated deterrence (PRC, North Korea, Russia, and violent 
extremists.

    24. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what is the operational 
requirement? How does this Unfunded Priorities Lists support current or 
future operations?
    Admiral Aquilino.
      Guam Defense System--GDS is a 360-degree, persistent, air 
and missile defense capability to defend Guam from ballistic, cruise, 
and hypersonic missile threats.

      Joint Fires Network--Joint Forces must be capable of 
planning, synchronizing, and executing all-domain fires at speed and 
scale against a peer adversary. Joint fires command and control must be 
distributed to the tactical edge and leverage all sensors and 
intelligence to form a persistent targeting common operational picture. 
The architecture must be joint, common, resilient, flexible, and 
responsive.

      Mission Partner Environment--The capabilities provide the 
ability to conduct combined warfighting command and control over 
common, secure networks.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--The joint force must be 
able to engage high priority adversary naval combatants at range from 
surface ships, submarines, unmanned systems and land-based launchers. 
MST is a key component of joint long-range, multi-domain fires critical 
to executing contingency operations in the Indo-Pacific.

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning--USINDOPACOM components lack the 
resourcing to project and maintain forward postured combat credible 
forces in the first island chain.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--The joint force has a need 
for all-domain battlespace awareness across the UNINDOPACM AOR. This 
UFR directly supports future operations by ensuring commanders have 
full situational awareness of the maritime and undersea environment. 
This UFR ultimately ensure additional military options to lower the 
joint force commander's risk in execution operations in the Indo-
Pacific.

      Military Construction--These unfunded requests directly 
support USINDOPACOM's posture interests in Australia, Philippines, 
Japan, Guam, and Hawaii. The request provides the funding to start 
critical design activities on large construction projects and UMMC 
construction funds, investments that make forward progress to closing 
existing infrastructure gaps associated with USINDOPACOM's posture 
interests in the these locations.

      Joint Training Team--The operational requirement is to 
rapidly develop a partner's capabilities. This UFR will allow for the 
creation of a Joint Training Team that will operationalize training 
objectives to allow for the rapid delivery of material and non-material 
capabilities.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--This organization will:

      o  Integrate JADC2 effects and mission C2, including in conflicts 
that arise with minimal warning;

      o  Integrate the capabilities of Assault Breaker II, developed by 
the Defense Advanced Research Project Agency, and related development 
efforts as they transition to operational deployment;

      o  Exercise of other joint all domain command and control 
capabilities.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--PrSM 
provides joint force commanders with a 24/7, all-weather capability to 
attack critical and time sensitive areas, including adversary ships, 
air defense, missile launchers, command and control centers, assembly/
staging areas, and high payoff targets. PrSM Increment 2 enables 
engagement with both land and maritime emitting targets, and Increment 
4 doubles the range of earlier increments. Both increments help to 
address critical capability gaps and are key components of joint long-
range, multi-domain fires critical to executing contingency operations 
in the Indo-Pacific.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--This supports two 
of USINDOPACOM's ``Seize the Initiative'' Lines of Efforts: strengthen 
relationships with allies & partners and increase warfighting 
advantage. JEI will provide assessments of technologies and concepts 
within Indo-Pacific operational environments for potential leave behind 
capability or integration into existing defense architectures. These 
capability improvements will increase warfighter advantage, defend and 
assure our allies and partners through science and technology (S&T) 
engagements, and support the combatting of trans-national challenges.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--the SM-6 Blk IB is 
a key component of Joint long-range multi-domain fires critical to 
executing contingency operations in the Indo-Pacific.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--Studies and wargaming 
analysis repeatedly show that naval mines are efficient and cost-
effective means to exercise strategic influence over naval and 
amphibious operations and timeline. CDMs will provide the joint force 
the capability to clandestinely emplace minefields in key areas of the 
battlespace in order to limit adversary submarine access and 
significantly reduce their capability to hold U.S. and allied naval 
forces at risk.

      Hammerhead Mine--Studies and wargaming analysis 
repeatedly show that naval mines are efficient and cost-effective means 
to exercise strategic influence over naval and amphibious operations 
and timeline. This capability addresses operational needs stated in 
USINDOPACOM Joint Emergent Operational Need (JEON) PC-0012, the Joint 
Maritime Mining (JMM) Initial Capabilities Document (ICD), the Navy's 
Subsea Seabed Warfare (SSW) ICD, and the last five USINDOPACOM 
Integrated Priorities List (IPL) submissions.

      Powered Quickstrike--The joint force requires advanced 
maritime mines delivered at significantly greater standoff distances 
than the current in-services mines. Studies and wargaming analysis 
repeatedly show that naval mines are an efficient and cost-effectives 
means to exercise strategic influence over naval and amphibious 
operations and timelines.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--The joint force 
must be able to conduct its range of military maneuver and execute 
operations at an acceptable level of risk, which includes its 
dependence on space-enabled information to provide position, 
navigation, and timing solutions, satellite communications, and 
intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance products. This ensures 
additional military options to lower the joint force commander's risk 
in executing operations in the Indo-Pacific.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--USINDOPACOM has a 
requirement for assured cyber effects and non-kinetic effects to be 
available should deterrence fail to hold adversary networks and 
platform at risk. With increasing technological sophistication of 
adversaries and increased reliance on information technology systems, 
these investments will continue to be of the utmost importance to 
advantages over our adversaries.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--USINDOPACOM has THAAD systems in its theater and a 
requirement to protect the joint force. A classified requirement 
related to this capability was identified as a specific material 
solution that can mitigate the threat to the Joint Force

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--The Joint Force 
requires all-domain battlespace awareness across the UINDOPACOM AOR. 
This UPL directly supports future operations by ensuring commanders 
have the necessary information available to them to understand 
adversary actions at the operational-level of war, and if required, 
conduct decisive military operations at the tactical-level.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--The joint force must 
be able to conduct the full range of military maneuvers and execute 
operations at an acceptable level of risk, which includes resilient 
cyber security and network defenses that enable the military to achieve 
its objectives in crisis or conflict while depending on networks that 
face steady-State cyber threats.

      International Security Cooperation Program--The specific 
requirements are described in the classified USINDOPACOM Section 1254 
annex V.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Funding supports 
integration of JTF-IP with USINDOPACOM components, and FVEY partners to 
maximize resources and information sharing to develop a cogent common 
intelligence and common operational picture.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--APRI is intended to 
support engagements with developing countries and may support both 
military-to-military and civil-to-military activities (where the focus 
may be on humanitarian assistance). Proposed APRI events must support 
theater strategy found in USINDOPACOM's Theater Campaign Plan and 
relevant country engagement plans. APRI provides an opportunity to add 
developing nation participation in valuable theater security 
cooperation exercises by adding troops, bringing in specialized 
participants, or diversifying the audience with new attendees.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--This is a critical headquarters 
manpower gap, which directly impacts our ``to be 2025'' vision that is 
strategically enables integrated deterrence.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program--
USINDOPACOM joint exercises are key operations, activities, and 
investments (OAIs) to move combat credible forces and service critical 
capabilities forward in theater and interoperate with allies and 
partners. Furthermore, these forces are forward in locations that may 
not typically permit full-time basing and are postured in a persistent 
manner given timing and locations of exercises over the course of the 
year to deter near-peer, adversarial aggression and strengthen partners 
against coercion.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--The operational 
requirement is to support all-domain battlespace awareness with a joint 
fires network through enabling real-time PED of raw intelligence, 
collected from multiple sources, to enable fused analysis, and support 
indications and warnings and joint targeting.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--The following 
capabilities are required for both fixed and expeditionary mission 
during competition, crisis, and conflict: (1) establish a TS/SCI 
Regional cloud presence in the theater; (2) install and connect sub-
regional and forward edge/expeditionary nodes and; (3) procure/connect 
an expeditionary multi-spectrum, multi-domain data transport service.

      Information Operations--USINDOPACOM requires additional 
IO capacity to execute OIE during strategic competition with regional 
near-peer adversaries. In addition, funding provides flexibility to 
engage dynamically in the information environment against emerging 
operational requirements or the activation of USINDOPACOM campaign and 
operation plans.

    25. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what is the operational 
impact if this Unfunded Priorities Lists is not funded in fiscal year 
2024?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--In the event of a crisis or 
contingency Guam would experience a variety of missile threat 
capabilities to include increased risk against ballistic, hypersonic, 
and maneuvering threats from all axis (360-degree).

      Joint Fires Network--If the JFN is not funded, 
USINDOPACOM will continue to experience significant challenges with 
executing joint, long rage fires at speed and scale necessary for a 
conflict with a peer adversary.

      Mission Partner Environment--If MPE is not funded, there 
is an acceptance of higher risk by relying on older, more vulnerable 
technologies which USINDOPACOM will rely heavily upon to conduct future 
operations during contingencies.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--If MST is unfunded, it 
will not be delivered in operationally relevant quantities until well 
after 2030, significantly impacting the Joint Force's capability to 
deter and defeat aggression by near-peer adversaries. Unmitigated risk 
to force and, by extension, to mission could prove highly detrimental 
to the achievement of NDS-directed operational and strategic goals.

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning--If this item is not funded, the 
strategic preparation and theater-wide shaping operations necessary to 
support the Secretary of Defense-directed objectives will be 
significantly diminished. USINDOPACOM campaigning efforts are designed 
to convey U.S. resolve and contribute to integrated deterrence through 
sustained active presence across the wide expanse of the Indo-Pacific 
region continuously.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--The current systems are 
baselined for improvement in future years, but his system will not 
available at the timeline directed by Commander, USINDOPACOM.

      Military Construction--Further delays for critical MILCON 
projects that directly support USINDOPACOM's posture requirements. 
MILCON projects take approximately 7-8 years from defined requirements 
to construction completed. If this request remains unfunded, it will 
further delay that timeline.

      Joint Training Team--Lack of funding will delay the 
delivery of critical self-defense capabilities.

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--Lack of funding places at 
risk the timely and effective execution of $12.8 billion in military 
construction across the FYDP associated with the Defense of Guam. A 
joint operational command is required within Micronesia to integrate 
requirements, coordinate lines of effort, plan supporting 
infrastructure where required, and ensure sufficient manning and 
resourcing are available to achieve mission success.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--If not 
funded, the PrSM Inc 2 and 5 will not be delivered in operationally 
relevant quantities until after 2030, significantly impacting the joint 
force's capability to deter and defeat aggression by near-peer 
adversaries in near to mid-term.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Without funding, 
USINDOPACOM will not be able to execute joint experiments focused on 
developing capabilities for Taiwan Self-Defense as well as 
experimentation conducted with other allies and partners.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--If not funded, the 
SM-6 Blk IB will not be delivered in operationally relevant quantities 
until after 2030, significantly impacting the joint force's capability 
to deter and defeat maritime aggression by near-peer adversaries in 
near to mid-term.

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--If not funded, the CDM will 
not be delivered in operationally relevant quantities until after 2030, 
significantly impacting the joint force's capability to deter and 
defeat aggression by near-peer adversaries. Unmitigated risk to force 
and, by extension, to mission could prove highly detrimental to the 
achievement of NDS-directed operational and strategic goals.

      Hammerhead Mine--If this UFR is not funded, the 
Hammerhead Mine will not delivered in operationally relevant quantities 
until 2030, significantly impacting the joint force's capability to 
deter and defeat aggression by near-peer adversaries. Unmitigated risk 
to force and, by extension, to mission could prove highly detrimental 
to the achievement of NDS-directed operational and strategic goals.

      Powered Quickstrike--If not funded, QS-P will not be 
delivered in operationally relevant quantities until after 2030, 
significantly impacting the Joint Force's capability to deter and 
defeat aggression by near-peer adversaries.

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--Each program 
identified is currently in development but the operational impact of 
these capabilities will be significantly reduced (<50 percent 
effective) in the near-team without these additional funds. These 
efforts ensure USINDOPACOM and USSPACECOM are synchronized in our 
ability to deliver integrated deterrence in the Indo-Pacific. Without 
the seamless integration of space capabilities into an all-domain 
approach to warfighting, the Joint Force Commander is at greater risk 
of accomplishing defined objectives.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--If not funded, the 
capabilities will be delayed for consideration in the fiscal year 2025 
budget cycle, increasing the risks to the joint force commander.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--THAAD currently has limitations that the classified 
level. If not funded, known limitations will remain until development 
effort is completed, posing a risk to the joint force commander.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--The current 
systems are baselined in President's Budget 2024, but this systems will 
not be available at the timeline directed by Commander, USINDOPACOM.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--If not funded, the 
capabilities will be delayed for consideration in the fiscal year 2025 
budget cycle, increasing the risks to network security for the joint 
force commander.

      International Security Cooperation Program--If not 
funded, the 11 listed programs will not execute in fiscal year 2024, 
reducing our ability to strengthening relationships with allies and 
partners.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--If not funded, USINDOPACOM 
will lose capabilities necessary for information sharing with regard to 
PRC activities and influence in the Indo-Pacific

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--USINDOPACOM will lose 
one of its primary tools to fund initiatives to strengthen 
relationships with its allies and partners, relationships that 
represent a key component of U.S. national power. Based on historical 
requests, operational impact to projects under APRI include: reduction 
in support to Pacific Partnership missions, de-scoping or reduction in 
participation at bilateral dialogs and a reduction in component HQ 
security cooperation activities.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--without additional funding, we 
will lose talent and the opportunity to hire highly skilled candidates 
who want to work here. This will impede INDOPACOM's ability to most 
effectively execute its mission as directed in the NDS.

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program--
USINDOPACOM will lose the ability to strengthen relationships with its 
allies and partners. USINDOPACOM will also lose the ability to 
adequately rehearse, assess, and improve warfighting missions.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--If left unsourced, 
USINDOPACOM will remain limited in its ability to process all sources 
of multi-domain data (GEOINT, SIGINT, Full Motion Video and OSINT), and 
support intelligence analysis. As the Department of Defense continues 
to invest in front-end sensor collection capabilities, there must be a 
corresponding investment in PED efforts in order to ensure the Joint 
Force is informed in real-time.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--USINDOPACOM 
intelligence operations is a ``no fail'' mission. Secure, resilient, 
and survivable architecture must provide the warfighter with a 
Regional, Sub-Regional, and Tactical Edge architecture to conduct all-
domain battlespace awareness and store, compute, and movement of data 
in competition through crisis. These networks and the ability to 
operate in a denied, disrupted, intermittent, and limited (bandwidth) 
(DDIL) environment is imperative to supporting operations across all 
phases of conflict.

      Information Operations--USINDOPACOM's ability to operate 
in the information environment will be degraded, as it begins to lose 
current capabilities and capacities. USINDOPACOM currently uses 
baseline appropriations originally created in 2009 to counter violent 
extremism, without notable growth. Current funding does not account for 
strategic competition with two major powers and one rogue State.

    26. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, are there plans to include 
this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    Admiral Aquilino. The funding for projects within the USINDOPACOM 
UPL does not fall within the command's annual budget; these projects 
are resourced by each of the military service budgets. USINDOPACOM 
advocates for the project funding, but does not determine funding 
levels within the services' budget submissions.

    27. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, why was this Unfunded 
Priorities Lists not included in the Fiscal Year 2024 President's 
Budget submission?
    Admiral Aquilino. The funding for projects within the USINDOPACOM 
UPL does not fall within the command's annual budget; these projects 
are resourced by each of the military service budgets. USINDOPACOM 
advocates for the project funding, but do not determine funding levels 
within the services' budget submissions.

    28. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what is the name of the 
vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      Guam Defense System--Bluehalo, USAF, Northrop Grumman, 
DOD-Defense Information Systems Agency, Lockheed Martin, Johns Hopkins 
Applied Physic Laboratory, USN, Innovative Defense Technologies, MDA, 
USA, USTRANSCOM.

      Joint Fires Network--Lockheed Martin, Anduril, Palantir, 
J Johns Hopkins Applied Physic Laboratory, MITRE, Two-Six Tech, 
Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, Space-X, KBR, and Viasat.

      Mission Partner Environment--Multiple Services and OSD 
System Program Offices, and multiple vendors reachable through existing 
contract vehicles, including OTAs.

      Maritime Strike Tomahawk (MST)--Raytheon

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning--Multiple vendors across all 
services.

      Persistent Undersea Targeting--Lockheed Martin, NIWC PAC

      Military Construction--The Design and Construction Agent 
(DCA) will go through their acquisition process to determine vendor.

      Joint Training Team--N/A

      Joint Task Force Micronesia--N/A

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM) Increment 2 (USA)--
Lockheed Martin

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Multiple Services 
and OSD System Program Offices, and multiple vendors reachable through 
existing contract vehicles, including OTAs.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--Raytheon Missile 
and Defense

      Clandestine Delivered Mine--Lockheed Martin, Boeing, John 
Hopkins APL

      Hammerhead Mine--General Dynamics Mission System (GDMS) 
is the primary government contractor developing the Hammerhead mine 
prototype. Existing contracts can also be leveraged to support 
dependencies across multiple entities.

      Powered Quickstrike--Boeing

      Operationalize Near Term Space Control--USSF is the lead 
agency. Specific vendor details are at a higher classification.

      Offensive Cyber-Access and Effects--This effort is 
executed by multiple vendors, many are contained within existing 
USCYBERCOM or service contracts.

      All Domain Missile Warning and Missile Tracking 
Architecture--Lockheed Martin and Raytheon.

      Space-Based Persistent Custody Sensors--USSF is the lead 
agency. Specific vendor details are at a higher classification.

      Cyber Security and Network Defenses--This effort is 
executed by multiple vendors, many are contained within existing 
USCYBERCOM or service contracts.

      International Security Cooperation Program--A variety of 
vendors are used by the Implementing Agencies. It is unknown until the 
annual contracts are awarded.

      Joint Task Force Indo-Pacific--Vendor to be determined.

      Asia Pacific Regional Initiative--USINDOPACOM J5 has 
oversight of APRI and the Resource Program Manager (RPM) is responsible 
for managing submissions. The RPM works closely with Comptroller and 
General Counsel in implementing the program. Ultimately, all activities 
resources by APRI are prioritized and approved by the USINDOPACOM 
Deputy Director for Policy.

      HQ Manpower Enhancements--N/A

      Joint Training, Exercise and Evaluation Program--JTEEP 
uses both organic and multiple contracted strategic lift vendors.

      Service Tactical SIGINT Upgrades and Processing, 
Exploitation, Dissemination (PED) Enhancements--Multiple vendors are 
executing this effort through Department of the Army contracts.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture--USINDOPACOM is 
working with NGA Warfighter Support (TEX) for the edge node and 
transport solutions; likely to be fulfilled by NGA's contract vehicle. 
The OCONUS Cloud solution will be coordinated through DIA CIO.

      Information Operations--Amentum, Booz Allen Hamilton, 
General Dynamics Information Technologies, Madison Springfield and 
Peraton, Radio Free Asia is a Grantee for some requirements.

    29. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how often has your command 
met with the vendor executing this effort? Please provide a list of all 
such meetings, and the agenda for these meetings?
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding contact with 
the vendors.

    30. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what is your history with 
this vendor? Please detail when the relationship began, the number of 
contracts applied for by this vendor, the number of contracts awarded 
to this vendor, and if you have had a personal relationship with the 
vendor.
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding their history 
with the vendors.

    31. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino has anyone who formerly worked 
for your command represented the vendor in meetings? What is their 
name, what was their position, and when did you meet with them?
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding previous 
employment with the vendors.

    32. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, in which city/State will the 
Unfunded Priorities Lists be executed?
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding specific 
contract related inquires.

    33. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, is this requirement on an 
existing contract? If so, with who? What is the history of the 
contract?
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding specific 
contract related inquires.

    34. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what is the anticipated 
contract award date if the Unfunded Priorities Lists receives funding?
    Admiral Aquilino. We defer to the services regarding specific 
contract related inquires.

    35. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what funding lines are 
associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    36. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, if multiple appropriations 
fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded simultaneously 
to source this requirement, or can each appropriation stand on its own 
to fund a portion of the requirement?
    Admiral Aquilino.

      USINDOPACOM Campaigning-This requirement funds Component 
operations and allows them to vary the size, scale, scope, and duration 
of those operations based on the resourcing available.

      Military Construction--Design. Yes. Each appropriation 
funds separate and distinct requirements and can stand on its own.

      Military Construction--Construction. Yes. Each 
appropriation funds separate and distinct requirements and can stand on 
its own.

      Precision Strike Missile (PrSM)--Yes. Each appropriation 
can stand on its own.

      Joint Experimentation and Innovation--Yes. Each 
appropriation can stand on its own to fund a portion of the 
requirement. However, failure to fund the O&M, Navy, will significantly 
hamper/delay the speed of executing the RDTE appropriation.

      Standard Missile 6 (SM-6) 1B Variant--Yes. Each 
appropriation can stand on its own.

      Hammerhead Mine--Yes. Each appropriation can stand on its 
own.

      Powered Quickstrike--Yes. Each appropriation can stand on 
its own.

      Resilient TS-SCI Warfighting Architecture. The 
appropriations between DIA and NGA do have to be simultaneous, however 
all NGA funding should be appropriated simultaneously and all DIA 
funding should be appropriated simultaneously to ensure capability 
delivery for UNINDOPACOM.

    37. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how much was enacted and 
obligated (or expended for Research, Development, Test, & Evaluation) 
in fiscal year 2022 to 2023 for this requirement?
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    38. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how much was requested in 
fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    39. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, is there a tail associated 
with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    40. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, is any tail funded in the 
future years defense plan?
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    41. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, please describe how much the 
requirement will cost per year for the next 5 years.
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    42. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, please provide in detail the 
previous funding requests and enacted for this requirement, including 
if it was in the base budget or Unfunded Priorities Lists.
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    43. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, if the requirement is not 
included in the future years defense plan, will that be rectified in 
the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, Planning, Budget, 
and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM will continue to advocate for 
required joint force capabilities in the services future POMs.

    44. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, please provide photos of this 
requirement for visual aid.
    Admiral Aquilino. Please reference the visual aids contained in the 
2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Section 1254 Independent 
Assessment.
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    45. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, how many 
civilian personnel and contractors are assigned to INDOPACOM and and 
United States Forces Korea?
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    General LaCamera.
    U.S. Appropriated Funded Government Service Civilians: 2,670
    U.S. Non-Appropriated Funded Service Civilians: 795
    U.S. Invited Contractors: 2,909

    46. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, please 
provide a breakdown of many civilian personnel and contractors at each 
installation in INDOPACOM and are (1) teachers; (2) medical personnel, 
including those mental health services to military personnel; (3) Human 
Resources personnel; (4) law enforcement personnel; (5) science, 
engineering, or technical personnel; (6) communications personnel; and 
(7) contracts, supplies, and logistics personnel.
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    General LaCamera.
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    47. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, how do 
civilian personnel and contractors in each of the following areas 
support military readiness in the region: (1) teachers; (2) medical 
personnel, including those mental health services to military 
personnel; (3) Human Resources personnel; (4) law enforcement 
personnel; (5) science, engineering, or technical personnel; (6) 
communications personnel; and (7) contracts, supplies, and logistics 
personnel.
    Admiral Aquilino.
    Teacher: Teachers are skilled and adaptable, able to teach a 
diverse student population with varying educational backgrounds and 
needs. They have experience in education, bring a fresh perspective and 
are able to provide innovative and effective teaching methods to 
support the unique needs of our military children.
    Medical: Civilian healthcare professionals provide mental health 
care, primary care, and other essential services to military members 
and their families. This helps keep servicemembers healthy, ready and 
deployable. Our employees in the medical and mental health fields bring 
a wealth of expertise and experience to military operations. They are 
skilled in their areas of specialization and provide valuable insights 
and innovative solutions to medical and mental health challenges.
    Human Resources: Employees execute personnel related functions in a 
variety of roles; including recruitment, training and development, 
compensation and benefits, employee relations, and workforce planning. 
They help ensure military have the right people with the right skills 
in the right positions to meet mission requirements.
    Law Enforcement: Employees bring a wealth of expertise and 
experience to law enforcement operations. Civilian law enforcement 
professionals help keep U.S. installations and communities in the AOR 
safe. They investigate crimes, enforce laws, and provide security for 
servicemembers and their families. By working together with military 
law enforcement personnel, civilian employees help maintain a secure 
and stable environment that supports military operations in the region.
    Science, Engineering, or Technical: Civilian personnel and 
contractors from science, engineering and other similar technical 
fields deliver military readiness in the INDOPACOM AOR by serving as 
the institutional backbone of knowledge and experience across the total 
joint force. These personnel are particularly vital in technical fields 
as they often directly support warfighting platforms or the 
installations and associated infrastructure from which the warfighting 
platforms train and operate daily. Furthermore, civilians in the 
engineering field often provide the long-term strategic vision for 
installations and can maintain momentum for operational initiatives.
    Communications: Effective communication in the USINDOPACOM AOR is 
essential for mission success, as it enables us to coordinate efforts, 
share information, and respond quickly and effectively to changing 
circumstances. Our employees work in a variety of roles, including 
network administration, radio and satellite communications, information 
technology, and cybersecurity. They help to ensure that our military 
has the communication capabilities it needs to operate effectively, 
particularly in our unique theater of operations.
    Contracts, Supplies, and Logistics: Booth civilians and contractors 
provide essential support services to our military, including supply 
chain management, transportation, maintenance and repair, and other 
logistical functions. They work closely with our military personnel to 
ensure that logistics operations are running smoothly and efficiently 
both in armistice and in contingency planning.
    General LaCamera. Government civilians and contractors are a 
crucial support mechanism in the augmentation of military personnel in 
the Korean Theater of Operations. Military members depart Korea at a 
greater than fifty percent annual rotation rate. Therefore, the 
civilian community provides continuity in support of mission readiness. 
(1) Teachers in Korea play a vital role in supporting our military 
mission readiness as they are responsible for educating our DOD 
affiliated children, many of whom face unique challenges and stresses. 
Department of Defense Education Association (DODEA) personnel in Korea 
are skilled and able to teach a diverse student population with varying 
educational backgrounds. Education opportunities enable families to 
stay together thereby enhancing readiness and morale and enabling 
longer than 1-year tours which, in turn, increases continuity. (2) 
Medical Personnel: Civilian and contract medical providers enhance 
medical readiness for the force by filling the Specialty Care billets 
that are not organic to the combat medical mission of the 65th Medical 
Brigade, and by providing a significant percentage of the Primary Care 
delivered in the Family Practice, Physical Therapy, and Behavioral 
Health clinics. Additionally, about 80 percent of the staff at Brian D. 
Allgood Hospital is borrowed military manpower from the 65th Medical 
Brigade, which must maintain its primary mission of Tactical Field Care 
through regular unit-level training and field exercises. Civilians and 
contractors provide the continuity of care necessary to maintain 
hospital operations during these required military training events. 
Last, military medical providers are limited to a 1-year or 2-year 
assignment on the peninsula. Civilians and contract staff on longer-
term contracts provide the necessary longitudinal care essential in 
maintaining the accepted universal Standards of Medical Care and 
ensuring overall Patient Satisfaction in the Military Health System. 
(3) Civilian Human Resources Personnel augment our military personnel 
specialist by providing expertise and sustainability of human resource 
programs and personnel management. (4) Civilian Law Enforcement 
Personnel are skilled in their areas of specialization and provide 
valuable insights to ensure training and awareness regarding law 
enforcement challenges in Korea as well as continuity of operations. 
Working together with Military Police and Customs Personnel, civilian 
employees help to maintain security and properly inform the expat 
community regarding Korean law. (5) Science, Engineering and Technical 
Civilian Personnel assist in ensuring our military has the capabilities 
it needs to carry out its missions effectively. They play a critical 
role in maintaining sustained and continued technological superiority, 
essential for the success of military operations. (6) Civilian 
Communications Personnel provide expertise and continuity. Civilian 
employees in communications work in a variety of roles, including 
network administration, radio and satellite communications, information 
technology, and cybersecurity. (7) Civilian Contracts, Supplies and 
Logistics Personnel augment military specialists in support of supply 
chain management, transportation, maintenance and repair, and other 
logistical functions, ensuring that logistics operations are running 
smoothly and efficiently both in armistice and, if needed, during 
crisis and resumption of combat operations.

    48. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, in September 2022, the U.S. 
Naval Hospital Yokusuka in Japan announced it would cease providing 
care to Department of Defense (DOD) contractors and civilians, leaving 
around 4,000 individuals uncertain about their healthcare access. In 
March 2023, DOD reversed this policy but there remain concerns about 
the quality and healthcare access for DOD-affiliated civilians and 
contractors. Please provide a breakdown of many civilian personnel and 
contractors at each installation in Japan are (1) teachers; (2) medical 
personnel, including those mental health services to military 
personnel; (3) Human Resources personnel; (4) law enforcement 
personnel; (5) science, engineering, or technical personnel; (6) 
communications personnel; and (7) contracts, supplies, and logistics 
personnel.
    Admiral Aquilino. 
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    49. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how do civilian personnel and 
contractors in each of the following areas support military readiness 
in Japan: (1) teachers; (2) medical personnel, including those mental 
health services to military personnel; (3) Human Resources personnel; 
(4) law enforcement personnel; (5) science, engineering, or technical 
personnel; (6) communications personnel; and (7) contracts, supplies, 
and logistics personnel.
    Admiral Aquilino.
    Teacher: Teachers support military readiness by delivering a 
quality, accredited pre-kindergarten through 12th grade education to 
military-connected children around the world. DODEA's teachers ensure 
that all school-aged children of military families are provided world-
class education that prepares them for postsecondary education and/or 
career success and to be leading contributors in their communities as 
well as our globalized society.
    Medical: Civilian healthcare professionals provide mental health 
care, primary care, and other essential services to military members 
and their families. This helps keep servicemembers healthy, ready and 
deployable. Our employees in the medical and mental health fields bring 
a wealth of expertise and experience to military operations. They are 
skilled in their areas of specialization and provide valuable insights 
and innovative solutions to medical and mental health challenges.
    Human Resources: Civilian and contracted H.R. representatives in 
Japan play a crucial role in managing civilian personnel programs and 
implementing policies that directly affect the total civilian workforce 
in country. Their contributions include influencing, developing, 
managing, and assessing the strategic direction of civilian human 
resources plans, programs, and policies. Civilians comprise 
approximately 13 percent of the total force in Japan.
    Law Enforcement: Employees bring a wealth of expertise and 
experience to law enforcement operations. Civilian law enforcement 
professionals help keep U.S. installations and communities in the AOR 
safe. They investigate crimes, enforce laws, and provide security for 
servicemembers and their families. By working together with military 
law enforcement personnel, civilian employees help maintain a secure 
and stable environment that supports military operations in the region.
    Science, Engineering, or Technical: Civilian personnel and 
contractors from science, engineering and other similar technical 
fields deliver military readiness in Japan and the INDOPACOM area of 
operations by serving as the institutional backbone of knowledge and 
experience across the total joint force. These personnel are 
particularly vital in technical fields as they often directly support 
warfighting platforms or the installations and associated 
infrastructure from which the warfighting platforms train and operate 
daily.
    Communications: Effective communication in the USINDOPACOM AOR is 
essential for mission success, as it enables us to coordinate efforts, 
share information, and respond quickly and effectively to changing 
circumstances. The C4 System Directorate provides coordinated 
communications systems support to the USFJ CDR and provide agile, 
resilient, and integrated C4 capabilities in support of the US-Japan 
Alliance and regional contingency operations. Our employees work in a 
variety of roles, including network administration, radio and satellite 
communications, information technology, and cybersecurity. They help to 
ensure that our military has the communication capabilities it needs to 
operate effectively, particularly in our unique theater of operations.
    Contracts, Supplies, and Logistics: Booth civilians and contractors 
provide essential support services to our military, including supply 
chain management, transportation, maintenance and repair, and other 
logistical functions. They work closely with our military personnel to 
ensure that logistics operations are running smoothly and efficiently 
both in armistice and in contingency planning. Contracts and 
contractors lower the cost to the U.S. Government and allow us to 
operate in otherwise inaccessible areas. For supplying and sustaining 
the force, both AAFES and DeCA operate on every major U.S. installation 
and are completely civilian-run. These organizations provide vital 
support to both servicemembers and families by providing access to food 
and daily necessities that are not available outside the gate on the 
local economy.

    50. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, does INDOPACOM provide 
standard information to new civilian personnel and contractor hires who 
are being stationed in Japan regarding the difficulty of healthcare 
access in Japan both in job listings and once they are hired? Please 
provide a copy of the information provided to new and prospective 
personnel.
    Admiral Aquilino. No, USINDOPACOM relies on the different service 
component's business practices as it relates to civilian/contractor 
hiring management. United States Navy and Army warn potential employee 
hires on the job announcement:
***ACCESS TO MEDICAL AND DENTAL CARE IN JAPAN IS EXTREMELY LIMITED. 
Please see Additional Information section below.***
Additional Information: Employees (and their family members) who 
require medical or dental care in Japan may experience severe 
limitations accessing medical care both on the military installation 
and the local economy, and also could incur costly medical expenses.
    United States Air Force announcements do not carry this disclaimer 
in Japan.
    Please see attached job announcement for copy of message.
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    51. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what steps has INDOPACOM 
taken to implement the Civilian Harm Mitigation and Response Action 
Plan (CHMR-AP) thus far?
    Admiral Aquilino. INDOPACOM's J5 staff spearhead our civilian harm 
mitigation and response (CHMR) effort across the command. A cross-
functional team meets regularly to guide the hiring process and to 
prioritize and sequence implementation. Incoming CHMR staff will be 
able to hit the ground running. INDOPACOM staff have readily absorbed 
the intended elements of good practice for civilian harm mitigation 
that build on existing procedure. Notably, our Joint Fires Element has 
integrated additional civilian harm mitigation measures into command 
targeting policy and has begun regularly integrating civilian harm 
mitigation vignettes and lessons learned into joint fires and targeting 
working groups.

    52. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what steps will INDOPACOM 
take within the next year to implement the Civilian Harm Mitigation 
Response-Action Plan?
    Admiral Aquilino. Our CHMR priority is to tailor and adapt pre-and 
post-strike Civilian Harm Mitigation and Response (CHMR) requirements 
and capabilities to ensure mission success in potential large-scale, 
multi-domain, and high-tempo combat in the Indo-Pacific context. Our 
cross-functional effort will be led by a CHMR Officer empowered to 
prioritize and direct CHMR-AP implementation consistent with urgent 
command priorities for enhanced mission readiness. With this lens, we 
will continue to tailor command-specific procedures to theater-specific 
considerations and operational requirements. INDOPACOM's large command 
post exercises offer the best opportunities to comprehensively test and 
refine CHMR procedures in large-scale combat scenarios and, in so 
doing, make meaningful progress against several CHMR-AP objectives. As 
we do so, the perspectives and capabilities of our key allies and 
partners is critical. In the coming year, I anticipate a robust dialog 
with allies and partners to set the conditions for shared practice to 
mitigate and respond to civilian harm in multinational operations.

    53. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, how do you intend to monitor 
and assess the efficacy of the current implementation plan?
    Admiral Aquilino. Our progress to implement the Civilian Harm 
Mitigation and Response Action Plan (CHMR-AP) warrants regular 
attention throughout the INDOPACOM battle rhythm. CHMR must be 
integrated across command policies, procedures, and plans; it is not 
merely a temporary program conducted on the margins of our core 
business. A critical indicator will be how civilian harm risks are 
anticipated and addressed in our most critical operational plans and 
addressed in conjunction with allies and partners. The comprehensive 
integration of civilian harm considerations and dedicated CHMR 
capabilities in our large exercises will offer the best insight into 
the efficacy of our implementation efforts.

    54. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino, what steps is INDOPACOM 
taking to tailor new civilian harm mitigation and response requirements 
and capabilities to possible large-scale combat operations, including 
through integration into strategy, doctrine, planning, professional 
military education, training, and exercises?
    Admiral Aquilino. Tailoring civilian harm mitigation and response 
(CHMR) capabilities for potential large-scale multi-domain combat 
operations is exactly our focus for CHMR-AP implementation at 
INDOPACOM. For example, the intelligence products of our Civilian 
Environment Team will need to be focused on high-density urban centers 
and life-sustaining urban infrastructure in close proximity to military 
targets. We will additionally need to tailor specific pre-and post-
strike mitigation and response measures to keep pace with command 
decisionmaking and a high operational tempo in a variety of contingency 
and operational plans. Global integrated exercises are critical 
opportunities for INDOPACOM to rehearse, stress-test, and refine CHMR 
procedures and capabilities. In 2024, INDOPACOM's large command post 
exercises offer the best opportunities to comprehensively test and 
refine CHMR capabilities in large-scale combat scenarios. These 
exercises will also enable us to fully define the resource requirements 
for effective civilian harm mitigation and response in large-scale 
multi-domain combat operations. I have directed my team to ensure that 
CHMR-AP is fully integrated as an exercise objective in Exercise Keen 
Edge 24 and we are the first combatant command globally to have taken 
such a step.
                impact of holds on military nominations
    55. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, Senator 
Tuberville placed a blanket hold on high-level DOD military nominees. 
What are the impacts of the current holds on national defense strategy 
regarding INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea, including China's 
actions in the Indo-Pacific region?
    Admiral Aquilino. The current hold on high-level DOD military 
nominees will significantly impact some of our highest levels of 
leadership in USINDOPACOM if it persists beyond the summer timeframe. 
Delays in nomination may lead to subsequent delays in senior leader 
rotations by 12 months or more. These actions bring to doubt some of 
our assurances in the region, particularly to those allies and partners 
who we are trying to persuade to choose the United States as the 
partner of choice.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    56. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the impacts of the current holds on continuity of U.S. military 
operations in INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. Without these leaders in place, the U.S. military 
will incur an unnecessary and unprecedented degree of risk at a moment 
when our adversaries may seek to test our resolve. Delays in confirming 
a large number of one-and two-star general and flag officers 
jeopardizes our current and future readiness status.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    57. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the impacts of the current holds on oversight of the U.S. military in 
INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. The importance of timely General and Flag officer 
confirmation is critical. These leaders are responsible for executing 
strategy, acquiring new technologies, enhancing tactical effectiveness, 
conducting joint training, and strengthening global alliances.
    Furthermore, these general and flag officers also provide direct 
leadership and mentorship to thousands of enlisted servicemembers and 
junior and field grade officers across the Department.
    General and flag officers have the authority to make decisions and 
commit resources, develop key policies, work with our allies and 
partners, and confront our rivals and foes.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    58. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the impacts of the current holds on military families and facilities in 
INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. The current confirmation holds are disrupting our 
senior military leader's families, specifically within USFK and our 
component commands. The confirmation holds are delaying moves needed to 
ensure we have the right talent in the right place during this period 
of increased tension. Additionally, families are feeling the stress and 
uncertainty, both of which may result in the loss of our best talent 
for opportunities that offer greater stability. Moreover, confirmation 
holds impacts decisionmaking on facility investments needed in the 
INDOPACOM AOR.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    59. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what 
high-level military positions within INDOPACOM and United States Forces 
Korea will be impacted by these holds if they last for another 3 
months?
    Admiral Aquilino. At this time, we are fortunate to not have a 
direct impact within the headquarters but are closely tracking the 
impact the hold is having throughout the service components and USFK.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    60. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the impacts of these future holds on national defense strategy 
regarding INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea, including China's 
actions in the Indo-Pacific region?
    Admiral Aquilino. If future holds are similar to this one, it will 
most certainly negatively affect the predictability and precedent in 
military leadership changes that our allies and partners have become 
accustomed to. A future hold could undermine the influence that we have 
on our allies and partners by projecting unreliability and uncertainty.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    61. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the projected impacts of these future holds on the continuity of U.S. 
military operations in INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. Delays in confirmation will soon foist vacancies 
on the most senior military positions across each of the Services, 
imposing new and unnecessary risks on U.S. warfighters across multiple 
theaters of operations.
    Confirmation holds makes it harder for the United States to fulfil 
its global leadership responsibilities, including to our treaty allies 
and our valued partners around the world. Our smoothly running normal 
processes and predictable military transitions have long set helpful 
expectations among allies and partners. Now, however, this hold has 
created unnecessary uncertainty. That diminishes our global standing as 
the strongest military in the world, which is in large part based on 
our stable processes and orderly transitions.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    62. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the projected impacts of these future holds on oversight of the U.S. 
military in INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. General and flag officers have the authority to 
make decisions and commit resources, develop key policies, work with 
our allies and partners, and confront our rivals and foes. The full 
impact of this hold may not be immediately noticeable because of the 
resilience built into our military organizations, but over time, the 
hold will cause cascading impacts to our readiness and needlessly 
hinder our ability to meet our strategic objectives in the Indo-
Pacific,
    The absence of experienced and Senate-confirmed senior leadership 
limits our ability to deepen our cooperation with our allies and 
partners through multilateral training and cooperative engagements. 
Recent exercises, such as Balikatan 2023 with the Armed Forces of the 
Philippines or joint U.S.-Israeli naval activity in the Bab el-Mandeb 
Strait, may become even more difficult if delays in confirmation force 
other leaders to take on the responsibilities of officers held up by 
the Senate. This hold could force senior leaders to become dual-hatted, 
which would force them to juggle competing priorities and sap their 
ability to excel.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.''

    63. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what are 
the projected impacts of these future holds on military families and 
facilities in INDOPACOM and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. Continued holds in the senior leader promotion 
process will not only cause disruption to our senior leader families 
but the stress and uncertainty will be felt across the force. If 
promotion holds continue, we risk losing the diverse talent and 
skillsets needed to win.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    64. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what 
impacts do these holds have on military medical readiness in INDOPACOM 
and United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. The projected impact on military medical 
readiness in USINDOPACOM is minimal. Although there is one DHA/U.S. 
Army Medical Command dual-hatted FOGO position in the region that is 
affected, the successor is in position.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    65. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what 
impacts do these holds have on cybersecurity in INDOPACOM and United 
States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. There is no immediate impact to INDOPACOM. 
However, general and flag officers provide oversight to the 
Department's military and civilian staffs, help decide how we employ 
our forces, and take care of our members, civilians, and families. The 
delays that we are seeing will have an overall impact to the force by 
imposing unnecessary risks to operations.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    66. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, do any 
of these holds send a damaging message to our allies in INDOPACOM and 
United States Forces Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. We continue to engage with our allies and 
partners at the senior military levels of leadership regardless of the 
hold on high level DOD nominees; however, inconsistency and 
unpredictability in routine leadership changes do not contribute to 
assuring our allies and partners that we are reliable in keeping our 
commitments.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.

    67. Senator Warren. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, what 
message do these holds send to China and North Korea?
    Admiral Aquilino. Secretary Austin stated that these holds are 
certainly disruptive to our normal way of doing business and very 
disruptive to the families to the officers affected by these holds, and 
I echo the Secretary's message. However, I can assure you that Indo-
Pacific Command stands ready to deter aggression across our AOR and 
should deterrence fail, win decisively.
      INDOPACOM appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the INDOPACOM AOR.
    General LaCamera. USFK appreciates that the hold on senior military 
nominees was lifted allowing those individuals to fill critical billets 
across the joint force, including in the USFK AOR.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Gary Peters
                        common operating picture
    68. Senator Peters. Admiral Aquilino, our adversaries have 
developed sophisticated anti-access & area denial capabilities, 
inclusive of long-range missiles, advanced air defenses, as well as 
offensive Cyber and Electronic Warfare weapons designed to degrade and 
deny the U.S., and our allies and partners, ability to respond to any 
contingency in your Area of Responsibilities.
    Given these advancements, how are you characterizing and learning 
from the conflict in Ukraine to inform your employment of platforms and 
systems designed to provide you with an accurate Common Operating 
Picture (COP)?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM has reviewed the ``lessons learned'' 
from the Russia-Ukraine conflict and remains resolute in upholding our 
commitment to strengthen Taiwan's self-defense capabilities in 
accordance with U.S. policies. The Russia-Ukraine conflict further 
informs our requirement to develop advanced warfighting capabilities 
that outpace our challengers and bolster regional deterrence from a 
position of strength. These include improved command and control; 
decision superiority; and a persistent, target-quality, common 
operating picture (PT-COP) that allows us to integrate with allies and 
partners and deliver compound, all-domain, effects at a time and place 
of our choosing.
               national guard security cooperation taiwan
    69. Senator Peters. Admiral Aquilino, you have 12 Active State 
Partnership Programs operating in your A-O-R. The Strategy, Plans, and 
Policy is a tremendous force multiplier by allowing us to leverage the 
skills and capabilities resident with our National Guard to build ties 
and interoperability with nations around the world, especially in INDO-
PACOM, our theater of priority.
    Would you benefit from streamlined authorities and lines of funding 
to help strengthen the ability of the National Guard to support 
security cooperation efforts with Taiwan?
    Admiral Aquilino. INDOPACOM has the authorities it needs to conduct 
security cooperation (SC). What INDOPACOM presently lacks are the 
requisite funding authorities for non-State Partnership Program 
partners to optimize the resources needed, particularly funding of 
National Guard personnel to support missions away from home station.
    There should be a total force review of the funding available to 
the Reserve component to align their capabilities to emergent and 
focused SC missions. The State Partnership Program (SPP) is tied to 
Section 341 and affiliate partner countries. I need the National Guard 
to have access to greater levels of funding for the SPP-affiliates and 
a mechanism to access funds to support non-SPP countries. For example, 
any assistance with speeding up the process or funding to help build 
Taiwan's capacity and further develop our long-term relationship would 
greatly help with their ability to conduct self-defense.
           quick strike-powered joint direct attack munition
    70. Senator Peters. Admiral Aquilino, your unfunded priorities list 
this year, again includes funding--almost $100 million this year--for 
the Quick strike-Powered Joint Direct Attack Munition standoff naval 
mine system.
    Can you please explain the importance of this capability--and its 
related Maritime Strike Weapons--to your plans? Why are standoff 
munitions like this so important to the defense of Taiwan?
    Admiral Aquilino. The Quickstrike is a family of shallow-water, 
aircraft-laid mines that expand flexible deterrence and response 
options to support our allies and partners across the region. Powered 
Quickstrike mines provide cost-effective risk reduction to force while 
shaping battlespace from safe stand-off ranges. The 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Section 1254 Independent Assessment 
calls for a significant increase in maritime munitions that include 
missiles, mines, and torpedoes because they are required to deter and 
disrupt all forms of PRC maritime aggression in competition, crisis, 
and contingency operations.
                          joint fires network
    71. Senator Peters. Do you have any concerns with DOD's ability to 
field Joint Fires Network solutions on a timeline you are comfortable 
with? How would you characterize the progress of these efforts so far?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM, in partnership with USD R&E, remains 
on track to develop a Joint Fires Network (JFN) that provides 
actionable targets, real-time battlespace awareness, and advanced all-
domain joint fires to create compound effects in concert with our 
allies and partners. Through recent experimentation, we have 
demonstrated a nascent capability to provide joint battle management.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                         training with partners
    72. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, what are the benefits to 
INDOPACOM from U.S. training of foreign partners on weapon systems such 
as the F-16 and F-35?
    Admiral Aquilino. Joint and combined fighter aircraft training 
promotes interoperability and enhances overall defense capabilities 
while strengthening INDOPACOM's strategic relationships with allies and 
partners.
      Interoperability. Training with foreign partners 
increases interoperability which yields increased efficiency and 
effectiveness during contingencies (conflict or humanitarian 
assistance/disaster response (HA/DR) events). Allies and partners with 
F-35s/F-16s will pursue participation in funded INDOPACOM field 
training exercises (FTXs) to advance their joint/combined proficiencies 
in fighter skillsets with the U.S. Air Force. The U.S. Air Force's 
willingness to train alongside and be interoperable with allies and 
partners is one of the leading factors in a country's view of their 
security partner of choice.
      Messaging. All training with foreign partners provides an 
inherently positive message about U.S. solidarity with countries in the 
region.
      Access, Basing, and Overflight (ABO). Common training 
throughout the AOR builds the needed level of trust and cooperation to 
operate modern weapon systems from varying locations. This expands U.S. 
Forces' familiarity with and normalizes U.S. fighter presence at new 
operating locations in addition to advancing efforts for access in 
contingencies. As ABO is a critical concern in the event of conflict, 
training engagements are a substantial tool in INDOPACOM's toolkit to 
increase the likelihood of conflict-phase ABO.

    73. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, are there any impacts to 
INDOPACOM if Singaporean F-16, and later F-35 training is delayed?
    Admiral Aquilino. INDOPACOM works closely with the Singapore Armed 
Forces to meet our bilateral objectives through numerous exercises and 
training opportunities both inside and outside the United States. 
Should there be delays that impact Singapore F-16 or their future F-35 
training, INDOPACOM will work closely with our Singapore military 
counterparts to ensure sustainment of Singapore's training and 
readiness requirements.
    Training between USAF and RSAF is critical to INDOPACOM in two key 
areas:
      Interoperability with Partners and Allies. RSAF is one of 
the more capable partners in the region and our joint training efforts 
allow participants the opportunity for ``high-end'' training scenarios 
that are currently available with only a select few countries in the 
region.
      Posture and Deterrence Support. RSAF currently has one 
squadron of F-16s stationed at Luke AFB, AZ, and this unit will be 
relocated to Ebbing Air National Guard Base, AR in fiscal year 2025. 
RSAF is also one of the few countries in the region that was approved 
to receive the F-35s. The RSAF initial order of F-35s will be delivered 
to Ebbing in fiscal year 2028.
    RSAF has also agreed to provide expanded space/access at Changi 
Airbase East (CAB-E) to INDOPACOM. This will greatly enhance our force 
posture options in the region. Additionally, since 2019, DOD has had a 
Memorandum of Understanding with Singapore to bed down an RSAF fighter 
squadron at Andersen AFB, Guam. The co-location of RSAF fighters at 
Andersen will greatly enhance INDOPACOM's combined deterrence posture 
at Andersen AFB by complicating targeting calculus for our adversaries 
considering offensive action against that strategic location.
    Singapore is funding a portion of the Ebbing and Andersen expansion 
through FMS cases. They are funding all of the expansions at CAB-E, 
including the areas that will be allocated for U.S. use. Delaying the 
training/basing location at Ebbing could adversely impact the Andersen 
and CAB-E programs which are critical elements of INDOPACOM plans. All 
locations will enhance our partnership and add additional training 
opportunities for these two aircraft (F-16/F-35) and others.

    74. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, can you please explain the 
benefits realized from joint military exercises with partner nations? 
Is there a need to train together if we expect to conduct operations 
together? What are the risks of not conducting this training?
    Admiral Aquilino. One of Secretary Austin's priorities is to 
strengthen our relationships with allies and partners in the region. An 
effective approach is to incorporate allies and partners into our joint 
exercises. It is critical that our allies and partners realistically 
rehearse, with us, warfighting against a peer adversary in highly 
contested all-domain environments to deliver Integrated Deterrence, and 
if required, transition to combat operations if deterrence fails. The 
sheer size of our area of responsibility requires a coalition of 
warfighters who are able and willing to not only fight and win but 
allow U.S. forces to be staged forward and distributed throughout the 
Indo-Pacific region. Enhanced training requires conducting complex, 
multi-domain exercises with our allies and partners to continue to 
deliver interoperability and to operate at the high end and serves to 
further solidify our relationships.

    75. Senator Cotton. Are there any currently conducted or planned 
training exercises with the Taiwanese? Can you provide any specifics on 
those exercises? Can you explain how training with the Taiwanese 
improves the ability to deter and if necessary, defeat Chinese 
aggression?
    Admiral Aquilino. Training engagements are a key tool through which 
we work with Taiwan and other partners to bolster deterrence across the 
Indo-Pacific, including vis-a-vis PRC aggression. More details about 
exercises with Taiwan are available at a higher classification level.
                         commercial integration
    76. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, how has INDOPACOM worked with 
industry partners to integrate commercial technological advances with 
our warfighting capability?
    Admiral Aquilino. USINDOPACOM works with industry partners to 
explore innovative concepts and emerging technologies through limited 
objective experiments (LOEs) to expand warfighting capabilities, 
improve operational readiness, and ensure credible war plans.

    77. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, what are your largest 
challenges to integration of commercial technologies? Are there any 
actions Congress can take to help alleviate those challenges?
    Admiral Aquilino. The USINDOPACOM innovation ecosystem processes a 
continuous stream of valuable yet un-delivered experiments and 
prototypes to the joint warfighter. USINDOPACOM can cost-effectively 
and rapidly leverage commercial tech experiments and prototypes. As a 
combatant command, USINDOPACOM is ideally suited to partner with the 
Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) to introduce game-changing capabilities 
to the warfighter and Congress can help through its continued support 
of the DIU.
             intelligence sharing and classification issues
    78. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, we saw the vital need for the 
expeditious dissemination of sensitive information to allies and 
partners in the lead up to the conflict in Ukraine. Does INDOPACOM 
believe similar sharing of information would be required to counter 
Chinese mobilization and galvanize international support prior to an 
invasion of Taiwan? Is INDOPACOM prepared for such a possibility?
    Admiral Aquilino. Sharing of sensitive information with our allies 
and partners is absolutely critical in developing a common 
understanding of threats that will lead to a coordinated response to 
coercive behaviors and actions. We continue to work diligently across 
the Intelligence Community (IC) and Department of Defense (DOD) to 
share lessons learned from the Russia-Ukraine conflict and apply them 
as applicable to the Indo-Pacific theater.

    79. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, is INDOPACOM satisfied with 
the extent of information sharing from the national and military 
intelligence community (DIA, CIA, others) to operational and tactical 
units? What, if any, do you see as the main challenges to effective 
intelligence sharing? Is INDOPACOM evaluating any mechanisms to speed 
up getting the right information into the hands of those conducting 
operations?
    Admiral Aquilino. We rely heavily on the collective efforts of the 
Intelligence Community to arm us with the information we require to 
understand and defeat any enemy. We continue to work to overcome 
classification restraints that impede our ability to provide this 
information to those who need it and to innovate and develop mechanisms 
to increase the efficiency and effectiveness of sharing.

    80. Senator Cotton. Admiral Aquilino, are there any classification 
barriers that inhibit or degrade testing, training, or operations 
within your command by preventing necessary information from reaching 
operators and/or partners? Specifically, OSD has recently raised 
concerns that over classification and SAPs prevent sharing of 
information with Allies and industry that harms our ability to deter. 
Do you share that concern? What steps should be taken to ensure the 
United States can share and synthesize needed information across the 
force to achieve joint multidomain effects in your theater?
    Admiral Aquilino. We recognize the need to balance safeguarding of 
sensitive information with the need to get that information into the 
right hands. We do effectively share information, but we can and must 
do more to streamline the flow of the information to ensure we can 
operate with our allies and partners in times of crisis.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
                                spectrum
    81. Senator Rounds. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, there is 
an effort by some in Congress to require sharing of all or some of the 
3.1-3.45 band of the electromagnetic spectrum, also known as the S-
band, between the Department of Defense and commercial interests in the 
private sector.
    As I understand it, the 3.1-3.45 band is primarily used by 
Department of Defense ground-, air-and sea-based radars and sensors to 
detect airborne and missile threats. For example, the Navy's Aegis 
Combat System's AN/SPY radar uses that band and is one of the few 
systems able to track the new threat posed by low flying, highly 
maneuverable hypersonic missiles.
    Can you confirm that U.S. forces assigned to you in INDOPACOM and 
USFK rely upon systems critical to our national security that reside on 
this portion of the spectrum? If so, can you share examples of either 
specific systems that currently operate there or some of the missions 
and capabilities which rely on this portion of the spectrum?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes, there are currently Aegis ships deployed in 
the INDOPACOM AOR providing missile defense which operate using an S-
Band radar. This band is critically important to DOD missions and the 
recent Emerging Mid-Band Radio Spectrum Sharing (EMBRSS) Feasibility 
Assessment found that spectrum sharing in this band is not feasible 
unless certain conditions are met.
    General LaCamera. United States Forces Korea currently operates 
four systems in the S-band (3.1-3.4GHz) frequency range in support of 
air, ground, and sea radars and sensors to detect airborne and missile 
threats. First, the Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS) 
aircraft operates two radars in the S-band to conduct command, control 
and surveillance for air and maritime operations. This aircraft 
provides detection and tracking of enemy aircrafts and relays datalink 
information to friendly forces. Second, a Counterfires Mobile Radar 
(TPQ-53) is operated by our ground forces to detect and track mortars, 
artillery, and rocket launches and determine the point of origin. This 
radar allows for quick acquisition of enemy artillery allowing our 
forces to seek shelter and rapidly engage threats. Third, Counter 
Rocket, Artillery, and Mortar (C-RAM) system is used to detect and 
track incoming rockets, artillery, and mortars to include small 
unmanned aerial systems. C-RAM is capable of engaging targets and 
destroying threats before impact. Fourth, U.S. Navy cruisers and 
destroyers operate in the vicinity of Korea and utilize the Navy's 
Aegis Combat System's AN/SPY radar for ballistic missile defense and 
tracking low flying, highly maneuverable hypersonic missiles. The four 
systems are either currently operating or have authorization to operate 
in the Korean Theater, allowing the United States to rapidly detect and 
engage aerial threats including aircraft, missiles, and small 
munitions.

    82. Senator Rounds. Admiral Aquilino and General LaCamera, 
providing this Committee with your best military advice, can you 
characterize the risk to mission and the risk to the force if action 
were taken to enable the auction of portions of this band prior to the 
analysis of the results of the statutorily required DOD-NTIA study, 
which is required to be completed by September 2023?
    Admiral Aquilino. At the UNCLASSIFIED level, I can tell you that 
there would be significant operational risk to our electromagnetic 
spectrum capabilities that provide critical EMS advantage and defensive 
posture were we to lose the use of this portion of the spectrum.
    General LaCamera. The phaseout of the S-band would hinder United 
States Force Korea mission to defend the Republic of Korea and our 
forces. These systems currently operate in the S-band to deliver 
operational capabilities to U.S. Forces. Limitations to the S-band 
would impact early warning notifications, missile defense, and 
counterstrike capabilities across the theater. Further analysis would 
be needed capture a holistic view of capabilities effected and conduct 
a proper risk to mission.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                     countering hypersonic weapons
    83. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, what are the current and 
future hypersonic threats you face in your Area of Responsibilities?
    Admiral Aquilino. Russia claims to have fielded at least three 
systems, the Avangard hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) carried by ICBMs, 
the Tsirkon ship-launched cruise missile, and the Kinzhal air-launched 
missile; Russia has employed small numbers of Kinzhal missiles in 
Ukraine. Russia is almost certainly developing additional hypersonic 
systems.
    The PRC has one fielded hypersonic missile system, the medium range 
DF-17 and is actively developing and testing a number of others. In 
July 2021 a hypersonic ICBM circumnavigated the globe and the 
developmental DF-27 IRBM has the potential to range Hawaii. The PRC 
almost certainly desires to expand and diversify its hypersonic 
capabilities across multiple classes which could be employed by land, 
air and sea-based delivery platforms.
    The DPRK claims to have successfully flight tested hypersonic 
missiles earlier this year. It is likely the DPRK is, in fact, pursuing 
this capability but is unlikely to have reliable, fielded hypersonic 
missile systems for some time.

    84. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, do you have the intermediate 
and long-range defensive capabilities needed to counter current and 
future hypersonic threats?
    Admiral Aquilino. Our current BMD posture is designed to defeat 
ballistic threats from rogue actors like the DPRK. U.S. missile defense 
policy states that we rely on strategic deterrence for defense of the 
Homeland from near-peer advanced threats like hypersonic missiles. 
However, policy states that we will develop missile defense 
capabilities to defend against any system that may threaten our U.S. 
and Allied interests abroad, which is why I've been strongly advocating 
for the acceleration of defensive capabilities like the Guam Defense 
System and an advanced radar to replace the FAA radar in Hawaii.
                   munitions industrial base concerns
    85. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, what industrial base 
investments do we need to make now to make sure that we and our allies 
have what we need to deter China?
    Admiral Aquilino. Recent analysis on the industrial base highlights 
constraints that impact all munitions procurement, including long-lead 
times of critical components/subcomponents that range from 12 to upward 
of 28 months. To maintain our competitive advantage, investments to 
improve the energetics, survivability, and effectiveness of existing 
weaponry is necessary, along with authorities that enable advanced and 
multi-year procurement of critical components, and funding to support 
the DIB with increased production capacity for critical munitions.
                         taiwan force readiness
    86. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, some of Taiwan's military is 
not trained on key asymmetric systems like Javelins, Harpoons, and 
Stingers. Which of Taiwan's forces do you think should train on these 
key asymmetric systems?
    Admiral Aquilino. In accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act, 
INDOPACOM works in conjunction with the American Institute in Taiwan 
and the partner to identify and subsequently advise and assist the 
appropriate Taiwan forces on asymmetric capabilities, which remains a 
priority of the Department of Defense. We believe all of Taiwan's 
forces, including conscripts and reserves, need to be trained in the 
use of asymmetric systems--to include systems like Javelins, Harpoons, 
and Stingers.

    87. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, please describe the current 
status of Taiwanese military recruiting efforts, any shortfalls, and 
any efforts INDOPACOM is taking to support these efforts.
    Admiral Aquilino. The National Guard Bureau is assisting INDOPACOM 
in identifying gaps in Taiwan's recruiting efforts, Taiwan's own 
reserve reforms, and the extension of its conscription requirements 
from 4 months to 1 year. We applaud Taiwan's efforts thus far and will 
continue to assist as requested by the partner.

    88. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquillino, since Taiwan has recently 
announced an expansion of mandatory service time for its citizens to 1-
year of training, how soon do you assess that this new service 
requirement will be implemented and to what extent?
    Admiral Aquilino. Taiwan started implementing this requirement in 
January 2024, with a growing proportion of conscripts serving for 12 
months in each subsequent year. In the interim, we are coordinating 
through the American Institute in Taiwan to better understand and 
assist where necessary. We know that Taiwan is taking this expansion 
seriously and is working to ensure the training is meaningful and 
substantive as it relates to Taiwan's self-defense requirements.

    89. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, what percentage of Tier 1 
units covering asymmetrical capabilities are less than 80 percent 
staffed? Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; 
please provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    Admiral Aquilino. Specific details are available at a higher 
classification.

    90. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, what are the operational 
consequences of this gap? Please provide an unclassified answer to the 
extent possible; please provide an additional classified answer if 
necessary.
    Admiral Aquilino. Specific details are available at a higher 
classification.
                    foreign military sales to taiwan
    91. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, in your personal opinion, how 
does the $19 billion backlog on Foreign Military Sales to Taiwan affect 
risk in your Area of Responsibilities?
    Admiral Aquilino. The Harpoon Coastal Defense System and F-16s 
account for a large portion of the $19 billion of foreign military 
sales in delayed delivery. These are critical capabilities that would 
greatly benefit Taiwan's self-defense and we are acutely monitoring how 
challenges across the U.S. defense industrial base may impact the 
implementation of these FMS cases with Taiwan and other partners.

    92. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, are there any restrictions on 
exporting High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMAR) launchers to 
Taiwan through Foreign Military Sales? If so, why?
    Admiral Aquilino. I am not aware of any restrictions on exporting 
HIMARS to Taiwan. Taiwan has an active FMS case for 29 HIMARS launchers 
that we are keenly monitoring to ensure they are delivered on-time.

                           taiwan absorption
    93. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, would Taiwan's inability to 
absorb United States military assistance in the form of equipment 
within 1-year increase risk within your Area of Responsibilities?
    Admiral Aquilino. INDOPACOM is working with the Department and the 
partner to mitigate absorption capacity and rate concerns through 
advice and assistance on non-materiel requirements, such as training 
and sustainment, prior to delivery of equipment. The goal is that 
Taiwan's forces cannot only absorb the delivery of defense articles 
materially, but also operationally. Increasing Taiwan's capability and 
capacity thereby would reduce risk within my AOR.

    94. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, would you support a 
requirement to certify Taiwan's absorption capacity?
    Admiral Aquilino. In accordance with the Taiwan Relations Act, U.S. 
military assistance to Taiwan also includes non-materiel defense 
services, including working with Taiwan on how its forces can most 
quickly and effectively absorb the capabilities they acquire through 
security cooperation programs and military-to-military engagement.

                         unfunded requirements
    95. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, you requested $1 billion in 
long-range strike programs, including the SM-6, Precision Strike 
Missile, and the maritime-strike Tomahawk Land Attack Missile. If 
Congress fails to fund, and the defense industrial base fails to 
execute, these programs, how does your risk increase?
    Admiral Aquilino. The 2023 National Defense Authorization Act 
(NDAA) Section 1254 Independent Assessment advocates for accelerated 
investment in certain anti-ship missiles, such as Maritime Strike 
Tomahawk, Precision Strike Missile Inc 2 and Inc 4, and SM-6 Blk IB, 
that are needed to hold adversary maritime forces at risk. Accelerated 
investments in the development and timely delivery of advanced maritime 
mines, including Clandestine Delivered Mine, Hammerhead, Powered 
Quickstrike, are essential elements of the joint force's capability to 
deter and defeat maritime aggression. USINDOPACOM's strategic approach, 
``Seize the Initiative,'' requires these specific munitions for combat-
credible deterrence and are critical enablers for achieving the 
strategic goals and objectives set forth in the 2022 National Defense 
Strategy (NDS).

    96. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, would you agree that ground-
launched, theater-range strike systems could buy-down some risk in your 
AOR?
    Admiral Aquilino. Agree, and the systems in my 2023 National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Section 1254 Independent Assessment 
articulate capabilities that enable a layered, integrated defense 
system. Investment recommendations include the Aegis Weapon System, 
Lower Tier Air Missile Defense, and the Strategic Mid-Range Capability 
weapon system. We're also working non-kinetic solutions and shifting 
currently fielded systems to mitigate risk in the AOR.
                  compacts of free association (cofa)
    97. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, since the states are critical 
partners spanning the length of the Western Pacific, could you please 
elaborate on the importance of these three Compact (COFA) Pacific 
Island partners for broader Indo-Pacific military operations? What are 
the importance of the, specifically in defense of Taiwan?
    Admiral Aquilino. U.S. relationships with Palau, the Republic of 
the Marshall Islands, and the Federated States of Micronesia, 
collectively known as the Freely Associated States (FAS), are governed 
by the COFA agreements. The FAS are a critical part of the strategic 
sea lines of communication, linking the United States with our allies 
and partners in Oceania and Southeast Asia. The COFA agreements are a 
cornerstone of the U.S. security architecture in the Indo-Pacific 
region, and provide the U.S. guaranteed and unfettered access to the 
countries, including the right to establish defense sites, and the 
right to limit third country military access to the FAS. COFA Title III 
allows for the designation of U.S. defense sites, which enable 
execution of force posture projects. The rights afforded to the United 
States by the COFA agreement are unparalleled in the Indo-Pacific and 
are well worth the defense obligations incurred. The exclusive military 
access in these countries provided to the U.S. via the COFA agreements 
commits the U.S. to the defense and security of the FAS.
    Countries in the second island chain, including the FAS, provide a 
critical logistical network that enables U.S. troops to move through 
and within the FAS uncontested. Our ability to strengthen our defenses 
and capabilities in the Western Pacific greatly increases our ability 
to project military power in the region, enhance Taiwan's self-defense, 
and deter authoritarian nation-states (PRC) that possess the military 
and economic capacity, and intent, to change the current rules based 
international order.

    98. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, do you believe that more work 
needs to be done in coordinating activities to counter China's malign 
influence in the Compact of Free Association nations?
    Admiral Aquilino. We have an extremely close relationship and 
partnership with the Freely Associated States (FAS). There are foreign 
malign actors conducting subversive, undeclared, coercive, or criminal 
activities worldwide affecting every nation and the COFA states are no 
exception. The People's Republic of China (PRC) has pursued closer ties 
with Pacific Island countries (PICs) for several decades and has 
significantly increased engagement in the region. Two of Taiwan's four 
Oceania diplomatic allies are COFA nations: Palau and RMI. Under Title 
III of the COFA, we need to ensure the FAS are aware of foreign malign 
influence threats to empower our partners and collectively counter 
these attempts and protect their sovereignty. Therefore, information 
sharing is extremely important with our COFA nation partners and an 
area we hope to buildupon in the future to mitigate foreign malign 
influence attempts.
    It is clear that there is a perceived threat to our influence and 
economic interests in the region. Over the past decade, the PRC has 
cemented itself as the leading trade and investment partner of the 
Pacific Island nations and a major provider of foreign assistance and 
loans. China is actively pursuing gray zone measures to advance their 
interests. They view the Pacific Island region as a low-investment, 
high reward opportunity to advance their agenda in a region where the 
U.S. is not paying sufficient attention. Recently, former President 
Panuelo of the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM)'s released a letter 
describing multiple instances of bribery, threats, and interference in 
local elections. More needs to be done to explore what our different 
instruments of national power can do to fight back against this type of 
gray zone behavior.

    99. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, do you think that the current 
level of coordination between Compact of Free Association nations and 
the Department on malign activity and other grey zone issues is 
sufficient?
    Admiral Aquilino. My teams have excellent coordination with our 
embassy and Department of Defense (DOD) teams working inside the COFA 
states. They help keep us up to date on the changing operational 
environment and we continually work with them to modify our efforts to 
meet the changing threat. Competing priorities and limited resources 
remain a limiting factor in the amount and degree of support provided. 
In this regard, we strive to work by, with, and through our allies and 
partners with like-minded objectives to achieve mutual goals.
    The level of coordination between COFA nations and DOD on malign 
activity and other grey zone issues has increased over the past 5 
years. In 2019, the Department established Defense Attache Office 
Kolonia in the FSM to assist coordination efforts in this matter. 
Additionally, during our semi-annual Joint Committee Meetings with each 
COFA nation, we share regional threat information and areas of concern. 
However, as the threat environment increases, there is always more 
coordination and work to be done. Information sharing with our partners 
is an extremely effective tool in this space.

    100. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, since Palau has recently 
established the position of National Security Coordinator to coordinate 
with the Department, do you believe this is a model that should be 
supported in the other Compact of Free Association states?
    Admiral Aquilino. In Palau the national security coordinator (NSC) 
is the primary liaison for all DOD activity in the host nation. This 
position works daily with the President and is able to provide 
consistent guidance and feedback for all military operations within the 
country.
    Each COFA State is uniquely distinct from one another; however, the 
establishment of the national security coordinators across all the COFA 
states will greatly benefit the Department. As you are aware, the 
United States Armed Forces is the military for the Freely Associated 
States. Therefore, there is no direct host nation counterpart for the 
U.S. Military to coordinate operations, activities, and investments. 
Due to the high volume of DOD activities in the COFA states, this model 
should be supported and replicated to streamline our efforts. The NSC 
as a touchpoint is vital.

    101. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, what efforts has your command 
taken to support the development of National Security Coordinators or 
similar positions on the three Compact of Free Association states?
    Admiral Aquilino. The Department made the initial recommendation to 
the Republic of Palau to establish the national security coordinator 
position--independent from the Ministry of Justice--due to the high 
volume of DOD activities. In the Federated States of Micronesia (FSM), 
we have led discussions with FSM senior leadership to evaluate creating 
a similar position there. A dedicated individual or (wider national 
security council) could act as a forum to consider national security 
and advise the President on defense and foreign policy matters. 
Outmigration of qualified personnel and resource limitations have 
constrained efforts for further development of this structure in FSM. 
For the Republic of the Marshall Islands (RMI), we have noted that the 
appointment of a National Security Coordinator would increase our 
coordination and cooperation efforts between U.S. Army Garrison 
Kwajalein and the host nation.

    102. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, in your professional opinion, 
do you support increased engagement with the Compact of Free 
Association States on maritime domain awareness, including to combat 
illegal, unreported, and unregulated fishing, as well as the return of 
Civic Action teams to all three Compact of Free Association states?
    Admiral Aquilino. Yes. In addition to illegal, unreported and 
unregulated (IUU) fishing, the COFA states have concerns regarding PRC 
research vessels surveying undersea communication cables and deep 
seabed mineral deposits posing threats to critical infrastructure and 
economic security. We have increased our engagement in maritime domain 
awareness and recently signed the expanded shiprider agreement with the 
Federated States of Micronesia (FSM). Through remote coordination, this 
agreement, the first of its kind, will enable the U.S. to act on behalf 
of the country to combat illicit maritime activity when an FSM law 
enforcement officer is not present. The shiprider agreement bolsters 
maritime law enforcement operations and maritime domain awareness and 
provide a mechanism to conduct integrated operations within the 
Pacific.
    Palau is the only COFA State with a Civic Action Team (CAT) Camp. 
Active in Palau since the late 1960's, they serve the community by 
taking on important construction projects, providing ongoing medical 
assistance, tutoring for students, and planning multiple community 
events throughout the year. The Civic Action Team in Palau and the 
uniforms seen around town are a constant reminder that the U.S. is 
present and has not forgotten their commitment to Palau. In 2003, the 
CAT sites in the FSM were closed. In the October 2022, during the Joint 
Committee Meeting, FSM requested the return of all the CAT Camps to 
each of the four states of the FSM. The CAT Camps provide valuable 
support to the COFA states, especially through their Medical Civic 
Action Program (MEDCAP) and Apprentice Training Program. The MEDCAP 
provides an in-camp clinic, outreach to outlying areas, and health 
education programs for local residents. The Apprentice Training Program 
assists the development of general engineering skills and certifies 
local residents in skilled trades. Graduates of the Apprentice Training 
Program contribute to the overall infrastructure development of these 
nations and lessen dependence on foreign assistance. The CATs are vital 
for all of the Freely Associated States.
                         independent assessment
    103. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, in your 2023 National Defense 
Authorization Act Section 1254 independent assessment to Congress, you 
include an increase for U.S. Special Operations Command funding for 
your Area of Responsibilities from $80.5 million to $356.75 million 
from fiscal year 2026 to fiscal year 2027. Why there is a 443 percent 
increase in funding between these two fiscal years, a significant 
increase from assessed costs in fiscal year 2024 and 2025?
    Admiral Aquilino. Specific details are available at a higher 
classification.

    104. Senator Ernst. Admiral Aquilino, why does fiscal year 2027 
include this increase instead of other fiscal years?
    Admiral Aquilino. The increase stems from the funding required for 
DOD wide MILCON projects. Specific details are available at a higher 
classification.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                          indopacom resourcing
    105. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, as you pointed out in your 
testimony, this decade presents a period of increased risk including 
from the People's Republic of China nuclear and conventional buildup 
and its malign behavior and ``no limits'' partnership with Russia. 
While INDOPACOM has done much to posture our Nation to counter China's 
aggression, there is still more to do. What do you need to better 
posture INDOPACOM to counter the People's Republic of China growing 
aggression?
    Admiral Aquilino. The 2023 National Defense Authorization Act 
(NDAA) Section 1254 Independent Assessment outlines the capabilities 
and posture that is required to achieve integrated deterrence as 
outlined in the 2022 National Defense Strategy. This report prioritizes 
the investments that are needed in INDOPACOM to maintain or restore the 
comparative military advantage of the United States with respect to the 
PRC. Specific details are included in the report at a higher 
classification.
                            interoperability
    106. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, in your testimony you 
spoke of the value of a robust network of allies and partners and 
detailed how INDOPACOM is strengthening relationships with our AUKUS 
and Quad partners. So much of each service's strategy in the event of a 
conflict with China depends on our capability to forward stage 
personnel and equipment. How are exercises in your AOR enhancing 
interoperability with allies and partners?
    Admiral Aquilino. Exercises are the cornerstone of enhancing joint 
and combined multinational military interoperability and demonstrate 
our mutual commitment to maintain a free and open Indo-Pacific. 
USINDOPACOM continues to encourage complex multilateral exercises that 
bring large groups of countries together to increase interoperability 
among our allies & partners, and to demonstrate unified resolve. 
Additionally, our exercise program advances integration of all-domain 
operations, to include space effects and defensive cyber activities. 
Enhanced training requires conducting complex, multi-domain exercises 
with our allies and partners to continue to deliver interoperability 
and to operate at the high end and serves to further solidify our 
relationships. We strive to include our AUKUS and QUAD partners in 
almost every exercise we conduct.
    We have made significant progress improving interoperability of 
U.S. and allies and partners. Examples include: the Enhanced Defense 
Cooperation Agreement with the Philippines, which permits the United 
States to build infrastructure and preposition equipment at agreed upon 
locations; and our Mission Partner Environment that modernizes 13 
separate coalition command, control, communication, computer, and 
information technology network systems into a single secure cyber 
system to deliver combined command and control capability throughout 
the theater. The outcome of our efforts enhances combined warfighting 
interoperability through rapid, widespread sharing of information with 
like-minded nations to operate with our joint force. Our joint 
exercises are rehearsals that test these locations and/or technologies 
to enhance our ability to deter and defend the region with our allies 
and partners.

    107. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, how are exercises in your 
Area of Responsibilities advancing Joint warfighting concepts?
    Admiral Aquilino. The USINDOPACOM innovation ecosystem processes a 
continuous stream of valuable yet un-delivered experiments and 
prototypes to the joint warfighter. USINDOPACOM can cost-effectively 
and rapidly leverage commercial tech experiments and prototypes. As a 
combatant command, USINDOPACOM is ideally suited to partner with the 
Defense Innovation Unit (DIU) and other organizations to introduce 
game-changing capabilities to the warfighter and Congress can help 
through its continued support of the DIU.
                 marine littoral regiments in indopacom
    108. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, in February 2023 Secretary 
Austin announced that a Marine artillery regiment based in Okinawa 
would be reorganized as a Marine Littoral Regiments by 2025. 3d Marine 
Littoral Regiments, stationed in Hawaii, participated in Exercise 
Balikatan 2022 and 2023 in the Philippines. Under Marine Corps Force 
Design 2030, MLRs are postured to serve as a Stand-in Force and execute 
Expeditionary Advanced Base Operations. This requires them to disperse 
along the First Island Chain to provide strike and surveillance 
capabilities. What feedback have you received on MLRs from allies and 
partners in the region?
    Admiral Aquilino. During the January 2023 U.S.-Japan Security 
Consultative Committee meetings, the Government of Japan expressed 
support for the activation of a Marine Littoral Regiment (MLR) in 
Okinawa and committed to continued cooperation with the United States 
to improve the defensive posture in Japan with improvements to both 
Japanese and U.S. military capabilities.
    The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) have been very receptive 
to 3d MLR deployments to the Philippines for bilateral training and 
exercises, as well as to assist in developing the capabilities of the 
Philippines Marine Corps' nascent Coastal Defense Regiment through 
subject matter exchanges. The AFP and its naval services have embraced 
opportunities to work with 3d MLR to identify sites for MLR employment 
and exchange skills as both nations' Marine Corps develop new units 
with anti-ship, anti-air, and maritime domain awareness (MDA) 
capabilities. Of note, the Marine Corps' participation in Balikatan 
2022 and 2023 was extremely well received by the AFP. With additional 
Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement (EDCA) sites agreed to, as well 
as other non-EDCA sites, USINDOPACOM hopes to gain additional 
employment options for MLR in the Philippines.

    109. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, what United States and 
allied military capabilities do the Chinese believe are most 
threatening to their ability to conduct a successful military invasion 
of Taiwan?
    Admiral Aquilino. A potential PRC invasion of Taiwan would be among 
the most difficult endeavors the PLA could possibly undertake, with 
enormous vulnerabilities that would threaten operational success. The 
PRC would correctly find many U.S. and allied capabilities to be of 
concern, including our ability to provide precision fires against all 
types of targets; our multi-dimensional undersea warfare capabilities; 
our expeditionary ability to rapidly deploy and employ advanced 
capabilities; our ability to disrupt PRC intelligence systems, command 
and control, and logistics; our vastly superior experience and 
sophisticated approach to training and readiness; and our ability to 
integrate and employ these capabilities alongside a coalition of like-
minded and similarly capable allies and partners.
        u.s. support to ukraine as message to indopacom partners
    110. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, during this year's posture 
hearing you were asked if the U.S. could simultaneously support Ukraine 
and Taiwan in preparation for a potential cross-Strait conflict. You 
affirmed the U.S. had the capability, which I believe is correct. I 
also believe our stance with Ukraine is a message to the lengths we 
will go to support our partners in the INDOPACOM Area of 
Responsibilities. Have you seen a positive response from our Indo-
Pacific partners for our support to the Ukrainians?
    Admiral Aquilino. I think our support of Ukraine sends an important 
message. The United States is a global power with global 
responsibilities and strategically, it's critically important that we 
support Ukraine because doing so sends a message to both our partners 
and potential adversaries.
                    prc-russia drills and exercises
    111. Senator Sullivan. Admiral Aquilino, the People's Republic of 
China and Russia have conducted several air and naval exercises in the 
Indo-Pacific over the last 2 years. How are those exercises evolving 
over time?
    Admiral Aquilino. The frequency of PRC-Russian naval and air 
exercises has increased over the past several years. However, we have 
seen little progress in the advancement of tactical integration between 
forces. Although recent activities indicate an incremental change to 
air integration, it is not to an extent which would force change to our 
already robust operational responses. The United States enjoys a vast 
network of allies and partners across the Indo-Pacific who work closely 
together daily and can operate seamlessly in both peacetime and in 
conflict. Russian and PRC forces do not enjoy the same level of 
interoperability and their exercises demonstrate that their forces lack 
the coherence and trust that true partnerships enjoy and require.

                south korean military support to ukraine
    112. Senator Sullivan. General LaCamera, South Korea has been 
reluctant to provide the Ukrainians with military aid despite their 
robust defense industrial capacity. On April 19, 2023, South Korean 
President Yoon stated if the humanitarian disaster continues in Ukraine 
it might be hard for Seoul to continue its decision to not provide 
military assistance. Ukraine expends large numbers of artillery shells 
and is in need of more, a key capability gap that South Korea can help 
fill. What is your perspective on South Korea's willingness to supply 
arms to Ukraine?
    General LaCamera. The Republic of Korea is responding to Russia's 
premeditated, unprovoked, and unjustified war by providing various 
types of assistance. Our joint actions demonstrate the unity and 
resolve of the United States and the Republic of Korea. We will 
continue to consult and coordinate with the ROK on how best to support 
Ukraine.

    113. Senator Sullivan. General LaCamera, South Korea has concluded 
several larger foreign military sales to European countries in the last 
few years. In 2022, South Korea's arms exports rose 140 percent to a 
record $17.3 billion, including deals worth $12.4 billion to sell 
tanks, howitzers, fighter jets and multiple rocket launchers to Poland, 
one of Ukraine's closest allies. The contracts for Poland's tanks and 
howitzers were signed in late August with South Korea's top defense 
contractors. It took little more than 3 months for the first shipment 
to arrive. What is your assessment of South Korea's capacity to provide 
modern military equipment to allies and partners?
    General LaCamera. The Republic of Korea has had success in initial 
shipments to U.S. allies and partners with follow-on deliveries 
scheduled out until 2030. It remains to be seen whether their industry 
can keep pace, especially due to existing challenges regarding 
availability of sub-components, some of which come from U.S. suppliers. 
Nevertheless, it is promising that the ROK intends to open localized 
production facilities by 2026 in the countries with which it is signing 
major defense export deals, such as Poland. The ROK is already 
establishing production facilities for the K9 self-propelled howitzer 
in Australia. These activities present potential opportunities to 
integrate U.S. subcomponents and munitions on Korean platforms, which 
will enhance interoperability among our allies and partners. These 
trends also highlight the ROK's potential to contribute to a regional 
sustainment framework in support of our National Defense Industrial 
Strategy.
                     south korean support to taiwan
    114. Senator Sullivan. General LaCamera, since the New Year, North 
Korea has launched several ballistic missiles around the Korean 
peninsula. This rise in activity coincided with some of the largest 
joint United States and South Korean military exercises in the last 5 
years. As South Korea's share of the global arms export market 
increases, and it acquires F-35s and ballistic missile submarines, its 
military power will rise substantially. Do advances in South Korea's 
military power factor into its decisionmaking should a conflict occur 
in the Taiwan Strait?
    General LaCamera. Any Taiwan-related crisis would have a regional 
impact, but the Republic of Korea's specific actions in such a scenario 
would be a sovereign decision. USFK's top priority is to deter the DPRK 
and to defend the ROK from external aggression. Our ironclad commitment 
to the Alliance is based not only on shared interests, but also shared 
values, including the importance of preserving peace and stability in a 
free and open Indo-Pacific.

    115. Senator Sullivan. General LaCamera, is South Korea's military 
expansion aimed solely at deterring and defeating an attack from the 
Democratic People's Republic of Korea?
    General LaCamera. Response to this is more appropriate in a 
classified setting. The mutual defense treaty with the ROK does not 
name an adversary. Similarly, the ROK's Indo-Pacific Strategy expands 
the ROK's foreign policy beyond the Korean Peninsula and embraces the 
fact that peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific is directly related 
to the ROK and active participation in regional affairs is vital to its 
own national interests. The ROK's Indo-Pacific Strategy is forward-
leaning and includes non-military elements, including engaging the 
global community on climate change, supply chain, digital economy, 
cybersecurity, non-proliferation, counterterrorism, and other emerging 
regional and global issues. The Yoon Administration has made it clear 
that it wants the ROK to become a ``global pivotal state'' that builds 
its bilateral and multi-lateral ties across the region and world. We 
welcome the Yoon Administration's Indo-Pacific Strategy, which aligns 
well with and parallels the United States' vision for a free, fair, and 
prosperous Indo-Pacific.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                       WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

 THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY AND NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION 
                    ATOMIC ENERGY DEFENSE ACTIVITIES

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:31 a.m., in 
room G50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Blumenthal, Kaine, King, Warren, Peters, Manchin, Rosen, Kelly, 
Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, Ernst, Sullivan, Scott, 
Tuberville, Mullin, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. Let me call the hearing to 
order. The Committee today meets to receive testimony on the 
Department of Energy's atomic energy defense programs. I would 
also like to welcome our witnesses, Secretary of Energy 
Jennifer Granholm and Administrator of the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA), Jill Hruby.
    I also want to thank your department's workers for their 
service to our Nation. Maintaining the effectiveness, safety, 
and reliability of the United States nuclear deterrent is 
fundamental to our national security.
    Today, our nuclear deterrent consists of a triad of 
ballistic missile submarines, heavy bombers, and land based 
intercontinental ballistic missiles. This triad is the bedrock 
not only of our national defense, but also the security of our 
allies and partners who depend on the United States nuclear 
umbrella. Critical to the triad's effectiveness is its 
modernization.
    The technology materials required to maintain our nuclear 
capabilities, especially warheads and delivery systems, are 
constantly evolving. However, the National Nuclear Security 
Administration, or an NNSA, is struggling to keep pace with 
these modernization demands.
    The NNSA is experiencing a tremendous workload as it 
strives to modernize not just all three legs of the triad, air, 
sea and land, but also five major warhead programs. Each of 
these triad legs and warhead programs require considerable 
resources, personnel, and time to be successful. Further 
compounding this challenge, the NNSA is undertaking a major 
rebuilding of its nuclear infrastructure.
    Much of our nuclear infrastructure dates back to the 
Manhattan Project in World War II, and while the original 
facilities held up well through the first two cycles of triad 
modernization in the 1960's and 1980's, they have essentially 
aged out for a third cycle currently underway. It is critical 
that the NNSA successfully balance the workload of its 
infrastructure and production facilities modernization.
    With that in mind, the fiscal year 2024 budget request for 
the defense functions of the Department of Energy is $32.6 
billion. This figure accounts for about 63 percent of the 
Department of Energy's overall budget request.
    Within this proposal, the NNSA has requested $23.8 billion, 
a 7.6 percent increase over last year's enacted level. One of 
the key challenges facing NNSA is finding skilled workers. This 
difficulty is being felt across the defense enterprise and 
indeed across the entire economy but is it particularly acute 
when it comes to nuclear security.
    Construction of our nuclear facilities requires specialty 
steel and concrete, as well as highly trained electricians and 
welders to handle these materials, which exacerbates the 
problem. I would ask for an update on the NNSA's efforts to 
recruit and retain these skilled workers. Another key challenge 
for NNSA is a requirement to achieve a plutonium pit production 
rate of 80 hits per year by 2030.
    This production is intended to be accomplished at Los 
Alamos National Laboratory, as well as a second site at 
Savannah River. However, the plant at Savannah River was 
originally built to convert mixed oxide fuel and therefore must 
be converted for pit production. The cost of this conversion 
had risen significantly from $4 billion to between $6 billion 
and $11 billion.
    Furthermore, the project timeline has stretched from the 
2030 target to between 2032 and 2035. The Committee would like 
an update on this issue and when the Department will have an 
integrated master schedule that accounts for all aspects of the 
pit production enterprise to meet this longstanding defense 
requirement of 80 plutonium pits per year. I would also note 
that the 2024 budget request increases the defense portion of 
environmental cleanup to $7 billion.
    I hope our witnesses will update us on our efforts to 
continue cleaning up former defense productionsites, 
particularly at the Hanford Nuclear site. These are commitments 
that have been made to local communities that we cannot 
neglect.
    The Hanford site has 177 million gallons of radioactive 
waste stored in underground tanks, some of which are leaking. 
The Energy Department is working to remove the first 40 percent 
of the low activity radioactive waste from these tanks, and I 
commend these efforts.
    I understand there are discussions underway on how to 
remove the highly--high activity radioactive waste from this 
site and others and would ask our witnesses to share how you 
are working with the State and local communities on these 
efforts.
    Again, I want to thank our witnesses for appearing today. I 
look forward to your testimony. As a reminder for my 
colleagues, there will be a closed session immediately 
following this hearing in room SVC-217. Now, let me recognize 
Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Madam Secretary and Madam Administrator, for being here. I want 
to especially thank the Chair for his very clear opening 
statement.
    It is obvious to me, based on the facts that he outlined, 
that we are nowhere near where we need to be and this Committee 
needs to take action in our NDAA [National Defense 
Authorization Act] to catch up. The United States prevailed in 
the cold war largely because we maintained a strong and 
credible nuclear deterrent.
    Today, the United States and its allies have entered a 
dangerous new era of nuclear competition. For the first time in 
history, we must contend with two nuclear armed peer 
adversaries, each intent on undermining America's interests. 
Just a few years ago, Beijing was something of an afterthought 
in the nuclear world.
    Since then, China has expanded its conventional and nuclear 
forces at an unprecedented rate. China has built hundreds of 
new ballistic missile silos, completed the world's third 
nuclear triad, and massively expanded its nuclear weapons 
stockpile. Xi Jinping also directed the Chinese military to 
develop missiles that can put nuclear warheads into orbit 
around the Earth, the so-called fractional orbital bombardment 
system.
    Such a capability would allow China to attack at any point 
on the planet with almost no warning--a terror weapon, if ever 
there was one. For its part, Russia continues to maintain the 
largest, most modern, and most diverse nuclear arsenal in the 
world. Vladimir Putin has shown us during his invasion of 
Ukraine that he believes nuclear weapons are still a powerful 
tool for keeping adversaries in check.
    Considering the conventional losses Moscow has endured in 
Ukraine, it seems plausible that Russia might grow even more 
dependent on the security its nuclear arsenal provides. We have 
also seen recent evidence that China and Russia are now 
cooperating on nuclear issues. This year, China purchased over 
28 tons of highly enriched uranium from Russia, which is likely 
to be used to produce plutonium for additional nuclear weapons.
    Not to be outdone, North Korea may now possess enough 
missiles to overwhelm our Homeland missile defenses, and they 
show no sign of slowing down. Half a world away, Iran continues 
to expand its stockpile of nuclear weapons as it inches closer 
to its own nuclear weapon. Unlike our adversaries, the United 
States has not been urgently adapting our nuclear forces. 
Instead, we see long overdue modernization program simply 
plodding along.
    I see an Administration intent on defending policies that 
grow increasingly out of touch with reality, rather than doing 
the hard work to adapt our forces to current and future 
threats. For example, the Biden administration again chose to 
eliminate funding for the sea launched cruise missile program, 
SLCM-N [nuclear-armed sea-launched cruise missile], even as 
China, Russia, and North Korea field thousands of tactical 
nuclear weapons to threaten the United States and its allies.
    This move directly conflicts with clear, bipartisan 
direction from Congress last year to continue this effort. We 
would like to hear the logic behind such a move. Beyond the 
SLCM-N, every single United States nuclear modernization 
program has been delayed, reduced in scope, or canceled over 
the past decade.
    In particular, the National Nuclear Security Administration 
has an extensive backlog of projects to update its Manhattan 
Project area infrastructure. Much of which is over 70 years 
old, as the distinguished Chairman just told us.
    The inability of the National Nuclear Security 
Administration to meet the statutory requirement to produce 80 
plutonium pits per year by 2030 is also deeply disturbing. The 
inability to do so is deeply disturbing.
    This Committee has been told there is nothing that can be 
done to rectify this, but considering the rising threats from 
China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran, complacency is 
unacceptable. We cannot effectively compete with and deter our 
adversaries with a nuclear capability that is undersized, under 
prioritized, and incapable of adapting to changing threats.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker. Before 
I recognize the Secretary, there is a quorum present--and such 
a quorum is now present. I ask the Committee to consider the 
list of 1,279 pending military nominations.
    All these nominations have been before the Committee the 
required length of time. Is there a motion to favorably to 
report this list of 1,279 pending military nominations to the 
Senate?
    Senator Wicker. So, moved.
    Chairman Reed. Is there a second?
    Voice. Second.
    Chairman Reed. All in favor say aye.
    [Chorus of ayes.]

    [The list of nominations considered and approved by the 
Committee follows:]
 Military Nominations Pending with the Senate Armed Services Committee 
Which are Proposed for the Committee's Consideration on April 26, 2023.

     1.  MG John W. Brennan, Jr., USA to be lieutenant general and 
Deputy Commander, US Africa Command (Reference No. 386)

     2.  VADM Karl O. Thomas, USN to be vice admiral and Deputy Chief 
of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, N2/N6, Office of the Chief 
of Naval Operations/Director of Naval Intelligence (Reference No. 387)

     3.  LTG Michael S. Cederholm, USMC to be lieutenant genera9and 
Commanding General, I Marine Expeditionary Force (Reference No. 457)

     4.  In the Army Reserve there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Jorge M. Arzola) (Reference No. 466)

     5.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(James F. Cantorna) (Reference No. 467)

     6.  In the Army there are 2 appointments to the grade of major 
(list begins with Sandeep R. Rahangdale) (Reference No. 468)

     7.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major (Song 
Qu) (Reference No. 469)

     8.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Timothy S. McKiddy) (Reference No. 470)

     9.  In the Army Reserve there are 6 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Kevin J. Huxford) (Reference No. 471)

    10.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Jerome C. Ferrin) (Reference No. 474)

    11.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Nathan D. Morris) (Reference No. 475)

    12.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (list begins with Ryan E. Dinnen) (Reference No. 
476)

    13.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (Jillian M. Mears) (Reference No. 477)

    14.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of captain 
(Mary J. Hessert) (Reference No. 478)

    15.  BG Derin S. Durham, USAFR to be major general (Reference No. 
487)

    16.  In the Army Reserve there are 3 appointments to the grade of 
brigadier general (list begins with Brandi B. Peasley) (Reference No. 
488)

    17.  BG William Green, Jr., USA to be major general (Reference No. 
489)

    18.  MG Mark T. Simerly, USA to be lieutenant general and Director, 
Defense Logistics Agency (Reference No. 490)

    19.  MG Ryan P. Heritage, USMC to be lieutenant general and Deputy 
Commandant for Information, Headquarters, US Marine Corps (Reference 
No. 491)

    20.  VADM Craig A. Clapperton, USN to be vice admiral and 
Commander, Fleet Cyber Command/Commander, TENTH Fleet/Commander, Navy 
Space Command (Reference No. 492)

    21.  Col. Brian R. Moore, USAF to be brigadier general (Reference 
No. 501)

    22.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major (Chet 
M. Korensky) (Reference No. 506)

    23.  In the Army there is 1 appointment to the grade of major 
(Anthony L. Ghezzi) (Reference No. 507)

    24.  In the Army there are 464 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Matthew Acosta) (Reference No. 
511)

    25.  In the Army there are 433 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Mark P. Adams) (Reference No. 512)

    26.  In the Army there are 304 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Alexander Acheampong) (Reference 
No. 513)

    27.  In the Army there are 35 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Emmanuel T. Adeniran) (Reference 
No. 514)

    28.  In the Navy there is 1 appointment to the grade of lieutenant 
commander (list begins with Matthew A. Bubnis) (Reference No. 523)

    29.  In the Air Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Brian J. Bohenek) (Reference No. 524)

    30.  In the Navy there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant commander (list begins with Andrew R. Flora) (Reference No. 
526)

    31.  In the Space Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
colonel (list begins with Micah R. Kelley) (Reference No. 527)

    32.  In the Space Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel and below (list begins with Erica J. Balfour) 
(Reference No. 528)

    33.  In the Space Force there is 1 appointment to the grade of 
colonel (Craig E. Frank) (Reference No. 529)

    34.  In the Space Force there are 2 appointments to the grade of 
lieutenant colonel (list begins with Marouane Balmakhtar) (Reference 
No. 530)

_______________________________________________________________________
                                                                    
TOTAL: 1,279

    Chairman Reed. The motion carries. Thank you very much. 
Madam Secretary, you are recognized.

 STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JENNIFER M. GRANHOLM, SECRETARY OF 
                  ENERGY, DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY

    Secretary Granholm. Thank you so much, Chairman Reed, and 
Ranking Member Wicker, and esteemed Members of the Committee. I 
am honored to be here representing the Department of Energy 
before you today, along with NNSA Administrator, Jill Hruby.
    I thank you for the strong and consistent and bipartisan 
support this Committee has shown the Department and our weapons 
enterprise. Over the last 2 years, Congress has entrusted the 
Department of Energy with significant resources to buildup 
America's clean energy manufacturing and to vault our country 
into the lead of global clean energy markets, and these 
endeavors are critical to energy independence and economic 
competitiveness in the 21st century.
    At the same time, the American people have long counted on 
the Department to meet national security missions that are 
essential. The geopolitical circumstances of the day make clear 
that these national security missions are as urgent as ever.
    Russia's invasion of Ukraine, China's nuclear expansion 
have reinforced the imperative to maintain a safe, secure, and 
effective nuclear deterrent. Amid rising saber rattling and 
active aggression against our allies, we cannot afford to lose 
an edge.
    As countries around the world begin to turn toward civil 
nuclear power for greater energy and climate security, we face 
a need for deeper investment in nonproliferation and 
counterterrorism measures. As the future of nuclear technology 
comes into view, we must remember and uphold our pledges to the 
communities that live alongside our research and production 
programs and have done so for decades.
    The President's Budget Request for fiscal year 2024 
recognizes and responds to each of these priorities. It would 
position the Department of Energy to advance clean-up of legacy 
nuclear activities, to promote American leadership on the safe 
and peaceful use of clean energy, and to strengthen our 
national defense. Let me take just a minute to detail some key 
elements, starting with NNSA.
    The budget calls for a $1.7 billion increase over the 
amount enacted for the NNSA in fiscal year 2023. That includes 
a 10 percent increase for weapons activities. It is the largest 
requested funding level in the history of the NNSA. It reflects 
the Biden-Harris administration's ironclad commitment to 
enhancing our national security, defending our citizens, and 
standing with our allies.
    Along with the modernization of the nuclear stockpile and 
restoring production capacity, this request would empower the 
NNSA to respond to new threats and opportunities in nuclear 
nonproliferation and counterterrorism.
    It will allow us to maintain the Navy's current nuclear 
propulsion systems, while developing the next generation of 
nuclear-powered warships. Both of which are vital to the United 
State's contributions to the new Australia, the United Kingdom 
and the United States (AUKUS) partnership, and to our 
technological advantage over adversaries. Importantly, the 
budget will also allow the NNSA to build the Federal workforce 
that is necessary to meet our increasing mission requirements.
    Further, the President has requested necessary resources 
for our Office of Environmental Management, which oversees the 
largest environmental cleanup program in the world. In 
particular, the request enables us to ramp up our work in 
tackling tank waste. We have treated over 400,000 gallons of 
tank waste at the Hanford site.
    We are now processing record amounts of waste at Savannah 
River, 6 million gallons. The request also funds infrastructure 
upgrades at the--and the operation of treatment systems in 
South Carolina, in Idaho, and Washington State, so we can build 
on those results to date. It supports further efforts to 
address contamination issues across our sites, while tending to 
the communities and tribal nations that are impacted by these 
issues.
    This budget will help the office recruit and train a new 
cohort of legacy management workers and leaders. Over the last 
2 years, we have made important progress on each of these 
crucial missions, yet we know that challenges remain.
    This budget request prepares us for the depth of the work 
still ahead. I am proud to lead such a gifted and dedicated 
team, and we are all grateful to have your partnership and 
support on these indispensable matters. Thank you once again 
for the opportunity to speak with all of you, and I look 
forward to your questions.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Madam Secretary. Madam 
Administrator, please.

   STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE JILL M. HRUBY, ADMINISTRATOR, 
            NATIONAL NUCLEAR SECURITY ADMINISTRATION

    Administrator Hruby. Thank you, Chairman Reed, Ranking 
Member Wicker, and Members of the Committee for the opportunity 
to appear before you. It is an honor to be here alongside 
Secretary Granholm to discuss the Department of Energy's 
enduring National Security missions.
    NNSA appreciates the consistent, strong support from the 
Secretary and from Members of this Committee for our work and 
our workforce. The deteriorating international security 
environment is a constant reminder of the importance and 
urgency of NNSA's mission.
    NNSA's fiscal year 2024 budget request of $23.8 billion 
allows us to respond to today's challenging global environment. 
NNSA is executing five weapon modernization programs while 
revitalizing our infrastructure and investing in our scientific 
and engineering capabilities.
    The refurbished B61-12 and the W88 Alt 370 weapons are 
being delivered on time. The other three systems, the W80-4, 
the W87-1, and the W93 are progressing well in their 
developmental phases.
    All modernization activities are closely coordinated and 
synchronized with the Department of Defense (DOD), and we 
appreciate their strong partnership. Infrastructure investments 
in the NNSA complex have been prioritized, with some work 
ongoing at each of our labs, plants, and sites.
    The large-scale nuclear infrastructure projects are facing 
the most challenges due to supply chain bottlenecks, inflation, 
and labor shortages common throughout the construction industry 
and the United States right now. These unique NNSA nuclear 
capabilities take more time to design and build and require 
specialized knowledge and skills.
    I want to assure you that we are actively taking steps to 
address the issues that have arisen on these projects. We are 
also making meaningful investments on our nonproliferation, 
counterterrorism, emergency response, and naval nuclear 
propulsion programs.
    These programs play a vital complementary role to our 
weapons program--activities, reduce global nuclear risk, 
provide critical support to Ukraine, and are a key part of the 
AUKUS partnership. We remain committed to achieving our 
objectives across all our priorities. Thank you. I look forward 
to your questions.
    [The prepared joint statement of Ms. Jennifer Granholm and 
Ms. Hruby follows:]
 Joint Prepared Statement by Secretary Jennifer Granholm and Ms. Jill 
                                 Hruby
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and esteemed Members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to appear before you today on 
behalf of the Department of Energy (DOE) and the National Nuclear 
Security Administration (NNSA). We recognize and appreciate the 
Committee's consistent support for DOE's enduring national security 
missions.
    As the Secretary of Energy and Under Secretary for Nuclear 
Security, we recognize the unique challenges posed by a deteriorating 
international environment and remain committed to strengthening our 
nuclear deterrent while reducing global nuclear risks, promoting the 
peaceful use of nuclear technology to combat climate change, and engage 
in responsible environmental stewardship and cleanup.
    The Nation's nuclear weapons stockpile remains the cornerstone of 
our deterrent and a key tool in reassuring our allies. The Department 
is aware that we have no margin for error and that we must increase the 
pace of our nuclear modernization efforts. This heightened pace must be 
paired with further progress on nonproliferation and counterterrorism 
measures to prevent terrorists from acquiring nuclear and radiological 
material and expertise. This is especially significant as the global 
civilian nuclear power sector expands, and new nuclear technologies are 
introduced as a means of fighting climate change. Additionally, the 
Department will continue to provide the U.S. Navy's submarines and 
aircraft carriers with militarily effective nuclear propulsion plants 
and is looking forward to being an effective contributor to the new 
AUKUS partnership.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget reflects the Administration's 
commitment to these priorities, allowing the Department to enhance our 
national security, engage in cleanup from our legacy nuclear 
activities, and promote American leadership on the safe and peaceful 
use of clean energy.
                nnsa's fiscal year 2024 budget overview
    The President's Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Request for NNSA is $23.8 
billion, an increase of $1.7 billion, or 7.6 percent, above the fiscal 
year 2023 enacted level. \1\ This funding request reflects the 
requirements in the nuclear weapons program of record, the National 
Security Strategy, the Nuclear Posture Review, and other national 
security strategies and requirements. The funding request supports an 
expanded mission due to the global environment and takes into account 
increased costs and delays in construction projects. We are mindful and 
deeply appreciative of the sustained support from Congress, multiple 
administrations, and the American people.
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    \1\ Fiscal year 2023 enacted levels throughout this document do not 
reflect the mandated transfer of $99.7 million from Naval Reactors to 
the Office of Nuclear Energy for operation of the Advanced Test 
Reactor.
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                    weapons activities appropriation
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for the Weapons Activities 
account is $18.8 billion, an increase of $1.72 billion, or 10 percent, 
above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. The request will be 
supplemented with prior year balances of $61.6 million.
    The budget request represents the Administration's firm commitment 
to a safe, secure, reliable, and effective nuclear deterrent 
underpinned by world-class science and modern resilient infrastructure 
and protected with advanced physical and cybersecurity measures. The 
fiscal year 2024 request reflects the increased urgency needed to 
modernize weapons and refurbish, revitalize, and reinvest in the 
nuclear enterprise and workforce.
Stockpile Management
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Stockpile Management is 
$5.2 billion, an increase of $251 million, or 5.1 percent, above the 
fiscal year 2023 enacted level. Activities include: (1) weapons 
modernization, (2) stockpile sustainment, (3) production operations, 
(4) weapons dismantlement and disposition, and (5) nuclear enterprise 
assurance.
    W88 Alt 370: The W88 Alt 370 program has entered Phase 6.6, Full-
Scale Production, and is currently on schedule to meet Department of 
Defense (DOD) deployment schedules. The budget request of $179 million 
is $17 million higher than the fiscal year 2023 enacted level, with the 
increase needed to mitigate risks encountered in Pantex production.
    B61-12 LEP: The B61-12 LEP has entered Phase 6.6, Full-Scale 
Production. The B61-12 LEP consolidates multiple variants of the B61 
gravity bomb and improves the safety and security of the weapon. 
Production is currently on schedule to meet DOD deployment schedules. 
The budget request of $450 million, $222 million lower than the fiscal 
year 2023 enacted level, is informed by carryover and reflects 
completion of production of many components.
    W80-4 LEP: The W80-4 LEP has entered Phase 6.4, Production 
Engineering. NNSA revised the first production unit (FPU) schedule in 
response to COVID-19 impacts, slower than planned hiring and increased 
attrition, and increased component technical challenges. NNSA's revised 
schedule is fully aligned with the U.S. Air Force's (USAF) Long Range 
Standoff Missile's schedule for initial and full operating capability. 
The budget request of $1.01 billion is $113 million lower than the 
fiscal year 2023 enacted level, consistent with long-standing plans and 
with typical warhead program profiles, with expenditures ramping down 
from the current peak as the program moves through its remaining 
phases.
    W87-1 Modification Program: The W87-1 will replace the aging W78 
warhead using a modification to the existing W87-0 design. The W87-1 
will deploy new technologies that improve safety and security, address 
obsolete designs and materials, and simplify warhead manufacturability. 
The W87-1 has entered Phase 6.3, Development Engineering, and 
expenditures are ramping up accordingly. The fiscal year 2024 request 
of $1.07 billion is $389 million higher than the fiscal year 2023 
enacted level. This request fully supports the increased activity 
needed to execute Phase 6.3 in fiscal year 2024. The request is 
informed by the recently completed Weapon Design Cost Report, the 
associated Independent Cost Review by the Office of Cost Estimating and 
Program Evaluation, and analysis of achievable execution rates by the 
enterprise.
    W93 Program: The W93 is a third warhead for our submarine launched 
ballistic missiles and is a new warhead. The key nuclear components 
will be based on currently deployed and previously tested nuclear 
designs that will not require nuclear explosive testing to certify. The 
W93 program is a separate but parallel program to the replacement 
warhead program in the United Kingdom. In February 2022, the W93 
entered Phase 2, Feasibility Study and Design Options. The budget 
request of $390 million, an increase of $149 million over the fiscal 
year 2023 enacted level, reflects the ramp-up associated with Phase 2 
and is informed by improved cost estimates.
Stockpile Sustainment
    Sustaining today's stockpile is the top priority for NNSA. The 
Stockpile Sustainment program executes warhead maintenance, limited 
life component exchanges, minor alterations, surveillance, assessments 
including annual assessments and significant findings investigations, 
surety studies and capability developments, and management activities 
for all weapons systems in today's stockpile. The fiscal year 2024 
budget request for Stockpile Sustainment is $1.28 billion, a decrease 
of $44.6 million, or 3.4 percent, below the fiscal year 2023 enacted 
level.
Production Modernization
    The production modernization program re-establishes and modernizes 
the manufacturing capabilities for nuclear weapons that degraded or 
were eliminated after the cold war. The fiscal year 2024 budget request 
for Production Modernization is $5.6 billion, an increase of $439 
million, or 8.6 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. This 
funding is focused on the timely establishment of nuclear weapon 
production capabilities for primaries, secondaries, tritium and 
depleted uranium, and non-nuclear components.
    Primary Capability Modernization includes plutonium pit production 
and the High Explosives and Energetics (HE&E) Program. NNSA's most 
pressing recapitalization effort is reconstitution of plutonium pit 
production. NNSA is statutorily required to produce no fewer than 80 
plutonium pits per year (ppy) by 2030. The Department and the Nuclear 
Weapons Council have previously notified Congress that NNSA will not 
meet the 80 ppy by 2030 requirement. However, NNSA remains firmly 
committed to achieving 80 ppy as close to 2030 as possible. The 
Department remains in close coordination with DOD to maintain the 
reliability and effectiveness of the nuclear stockpile until pit 
production capabilities are fully established.
    NNSA is proceeding with a two-site approach for producing at least 
80 ppy, with the Los Alamos National Laboratory Plutonium facility set 
to produce 30 ppy and the Savannah River Plutonium Processing Facility 
(SRPPF) set to produce at least 50 ppy. At LANL, fiscal year 2024 funds 
will be used to support an increase in engineering evaluations and 
certification activities to produce war reserve (WR) plutonium pits in 
tandem with increased equipment purchases and installation activities. 
NNSA expects the first WR pit to be produced near the end of calendar 
year 2024 and an increased number of WR pits to be produced each 
subsequent year. At SRPPF, fiscal year 2024 funds will continue to 
support design activities and earlier work onsite preparation, 
demolition and removal of old equipment and materials from the main 
process building, and long-lead procurements.
    NNSA is also restoring, modernizing, and enhancing its enriched 
uranium, depleted uranium, and lithium manufacturing processes to meet 
requirements for nuclear weapon secondary stage production. NNSA is 
making significant, long-term investments in each of these areas while 
remaining mindful of current difficulties in large-scale construction. 
For example, NNSA is relocating its enriched uranium processing 
capabilities into the Uranium Processing Facility (UPF) at the Y-12 
National Security Complex (Y-12) and other enduring facilities to 
reduce mission dependency on building 9212, which is over 75 years old. 
UPF will provide for the long-term viability and security of enriched 
uranium processing while improving worker and public safety and 
promoting environmental stewardship. Ongoing supply chain issues, 
delayed equipment delivery, contractor performance, inflation, and 
shortages of qualified labor have contributed to cost growth and 
schedule delays beyond the originally scheduled completion date of 
December 2025. In addition to UPF, NNSA is refurbishing buildings 9215, 
9204-2E, and 9995 to establish modern processes and extend their 
operational lifetimes into the 2040's. A key change will be the 
establishment of electrorefining to provide purified uranium metal and 
eliminate the current high-hazard chemical process. NNSA is also 
continuing investments in the Depleted Uranium (DU) Modernization 
Program initiated at Y-12 in fiscal year 2021. This program will 
reconstitute lapsed DU alloying and component manufacturing 
capabilities at Y-12 while investing in new technology to improve 
efficiency, reliability, and capacity. The equipment at Y-12 formerly 
used in this process has been inoperable for the last 15 years, and its 
reconstitution is a critical component of successful weapons 
modernization.
    To address increased mission demand for future mission 
requirements, NNSA has developed a lithium modernization strategy that 
includes restarting processes while constructing the Lithium Processing 
Facility (LPF). LPF will replace the lithium manufacturing processes 
within Y-12 buildings 9204-2 and 9202, which are lithium recovery, 
purification, component fabrication operations and salvaging. These 
buildings are in disrepair and do not possess the capabilities or 
capacity to meet demands beyond 2035. LPF will provide modern 
technologies and a safer environment for both workers and the public.
    Multi-year modernization plans for tritium reflect increased future 
demand. NNSA is already increasing production levels at the Tennessee 
Valley Authority and extracting produced tritium at the Savannah River 
Site (SRS). NNSA is designing and initiating site preparations for the 
Tritium Finishing Facility (TFF) at SRS, which will replace a 1950's-
era facility. The fiscal year 2024 budget request reflects a 
prioritization decision to complete the site preparation subproject but 
move the remainder of the project out in time to focus resources on 
SRPPF and other higher-priority construction projects. NNSA also 
supports a Domestic Uranium Enrichment (DUE) program to provide 
sufficient capacity of unobligated Low Enriched Uranium (LEU) for 
tritium production and Highly Enriched Uranium (HEU) for naval 
propulsion fuel, as well as obligated or unobligated High Assay LEU 
(HALEU) for research reactors. New funding is requested to begin 
conceptual design activities for an unobligated enrichment technology 
pilot plant.
    The Non-Nuclear Capability Modernization (NNCM) program funds the 
capability and capacity for non-nuclear components (external to the 
primary or secondary stage of the nuclear explosive package) in weapon 
systems. Non-nuclear components provide arming, fuzing, and firing 
functions and safety and use control features, among others. Providing 
these functions requires a wide range of technologies and components 
including radiation-hardened microelectronics, neutron generators, gas 
transfer systems, power sources, electrical assemblies, cables, 
connectors, structural elements, pads/cushions, and a multitude of 
other parts that are incorporated into the systems that support or 
weaponize the nuclear explosive package. NNCs make up more than half 
the cost of weapons due to the number and complexity of the elements, 
and the need for qualification in extreme environments over the warhead 
life. The fiscal year 2024 request includes funding to provide 
equipment for increased manufacturing capacity at the Kansas City 
National Security Campus (KCNSC); reconstitute thermal spray capability 
at Sandia National Laboratories; recapitalize radiation and major 
environmental test facilities at Sandia National Laboratories for 
design and qualification; and provide tools and equipment for the 
Microsystems Engineering, Science, and Applications (MESA) Complex at 
Sandia National Laboratories as the only approved source of trusted, 
strategically radiation hardened microelectronics. Fiscal year 2024 
funding will also be used to develop production modernization 
strategies for weapon staging and warhead assembly operations at 
Pantex.
Stockpile Research, Technology, and Engineering
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Stockpile Research, 
Technology, and Engineering (SRT&E) is $3.2 billion, an increase of 
$246.6 million, or 8.4 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted 
level. The SRT&E portfolio covers activities that serve as the 
foundation for science-based stockpile activities, including the 
capabilities, tools, and components that are used every day to assess 
the active stockpile and to certify warhead modernization programs 
without the need for underground nuclear testing. NNSA's unparalleled 
science and technical capabilities, and commitment to their constant 
improvement, helps cultivate the knowledge and expertise to maintain 
confidence in the stockpile.
    The Enhanced Capabilities for Subcritical Experiments (ECSE) fiscal 
year 2024 request is $292.3 million, an increase of $15.1 million, or 
5.5 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. ECSE will 
produce experimental data in underground tunnels at the NNSS that 
enables high fidelity assessment of the current stockpile and 
certification of the future stockpile without the need to return to 
underground nuclear explosive testing. ECSE experiments are designed to 
remain subcritical throughout the experiment to adhere to the current 
U.S. policy of a ``zero yield'' nuclear testing moratorium.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for the Stockpile 
Responsiveness Program (SRP) is $69.8 million, an increase of $6.1 
million, or 9.6 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. SRP 
is responsible for exercising and enhancing capabilities through the 
entire nuclear weapons lifecycle to improve the responsiveness of the 
United States to future threats, technological trends, and 
international developments not addressed by current warhead 
modernization programs. SRP is investing in efforts to address issues 
in design for manufacturability, digital engineering, component, and 
system prototyping and testing.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Weapons Technology and 
Manufacturing Maturation (WTMM) is $327.7 million, an increase of $41.5 
million, or 14.5 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. The 
WTMM program invests in system-agnostic technology development and 
advanced manufacturing capabilities to reduce the technological risks 
and life-cycle costs of maintaining and enhancing the stockpile. 
Technology and manufacturing maturation enables the development and 
delivery of design-to-manufacturing capabilities to meet the current 
programs of record and future nuclear weapons design and production 
needs of the nuclear security enterprise.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for the Inertial Confinement 
Fusion Program (ICF) is $601.6 million, a decrease of $28.3 million, or 
4.5 percent, below the fiscal year 2023 enacted level, reflecting the 
use of projected carryover for fiscal year 2024 requirements. The ICF 
program provides high energy density (HED) science capabilities and 
expertise that support research and testing across the breadth of the 
Stockpile Stewardship Program. Its twofold mission is to meet immediate 
and emerging HED science needs to support the deterrent of today, and 
to advance the R&D capabilities necessary to meet those needs for the 
deterrent of the future. In a breakthrough on December 5, 2022, the ICF 
Program reached fusion ignition and achieved net energy gain for the 
first time in history.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Advanced Simulation and 
Computing (ASC) is $782.5 million, a decrease of $7.5 million, or 1.0 
percent, below the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. ASC will provide 
NNSA with leading edge simulation capabilities to support weapons 
design, science-based stockpile stewardship, and stockpile 
certification activities. The fiscal year 2024 budget request will 
continue funding maturation of next-generation simulation and computing 
technologies. Additionally, El Capitan, the first exascale computer for 
national security, is expected to come online at LLNL for classified 
computing in 2024. At over two exaflops, it will be the world's fastest 
supercomputer.
Academic Programs and Community Support
    Starting in fiscal year 2024, NNSA is proposing to elevate Academic 
Programs from a congressional-control level within SRT&E to a stand-
alone Government Performance and Results Act (GPRA) Unit/control level, 
and to also establish a Community Capacity Building Program to provide 
benefits to disadvantaged communities, including Tribal Nations and 
rural communities, that are affected by activities at NNSA's sites. 
These changes will enable improved program integration, agility, 
development, and alignment to critical workforce needs, promote the 
President's goal of advancing diversity, equity, inclusion, and 
accessibility through the Federal Government, and bolster underserved 
communities affected by activities at the NNSA sites in the areas of 
job creation, community restoration, infrastructure projects, and 
educational resources. The fiscal year 2024 budget request is $152 
million, an increase of $40 million, or 36 percent, above the fiscal 
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    NNSA depends on a strong and diverse base of national expertise in 
specialized technical areas such as nuclear science, radiochemistry, 
materials at extreme conditions, high energy density science, advanced 
manufacturing, and high-performance computing. This budget supports 
managing academic solicitations and competitive awards in these 
disciplines, enabling connections between these academic research 
communities and the nuclear security enterprise, and attracting and 
retaining this pipeline of developed talent to ensure the future 
workforce of NNSA can meet the evolving needs of the enterprise. NNSA 
is also building the pipeline for technicians and skilled craft trades 
to meet ongoing and emerging needs at national laboratories, plants, 
and sites. The Apprenticeships for Complete and Committed Employment 
for Specialized Skills (ACCESS) program--outlined in the fiscal year 
2020 NDAA--was motivated by the need to support apprenticeships for 
specialized skills that are vital to the nuclear security enterprise.
                     infrastructure and operations
    A well-organized, well-maintained, and modern infrastructure system 
is the bedrock of a flexible and resilient nuclear security enterprise. 
NNSA's infrastructure consists of $134 billion in assets and 
facilities. More than 60 percent are beyond their life expectancy, with 
some of the most important dating back to the Manhattan Project. When 
the cold war ended NNSA was left with large and aged buildings, 
environmental contamination, and the need to close facilities for some 
key weapon components such as plutonium pits. Going forward, NNSA needs 
to be creative in facility design and cultivate capabilities that can 
rapidly scale up or down depending on the international environment and 
mission need while being minimally disruptive to contracts, workforce, 
facilities, and the environment. This includes developing strategic 
partnerships with industry and using new acquisition approaches to 
purchase facilities rather than pursuing traditional Federal 
construction projects. NNSA is increasingly exploring the use of its 
real eState authority to achieve timely acquisition of modern, non-
complex infrastructure to support the mission.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Infrastructure and 
Operations is $2.77 billion, an increase of $164.5 million, or 6.3 
percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. This increase will 
enable NNSA to operate and modernize NNSA's infrastructure to support 
expanded mission objectives and future enterprise resilience. A 
significant portion of the requested increase will support the Kansas 
City Non-Nuclear Expansion Transformation plan. NNSA is currently 
pursuing acquisition of 245 acres of land immediately adjacent to the 
Kansas City National Security Campus (KCNSC), because the current KCNSC 
manufacturing capacity is inadequate to support the modernization 
program of record. The increase also enables NNSA to address external 
factors such as supply chain delays, inflation, and labor shortages 
which have raised costs and extended timelines for projects, making it 
difficult to deliver projects within the baselines established. To 
address these challenges, NNSA is focused on improving early stage 
project and portfolio level planning, identifying and applying lessons 
learned through independent project reviews, and taking actions to 
streamline project delivery and increase buying power. NNSA is grateful 
for the additional authority in the National Defense Authorization Act 
(NDAA) for fiscal year 2023, which raised the minor construction 
threshold from $25 million to $30 million and provided a 3-year pilot 
program to raise the threshold to account for inflation. This will make 
a critical difference in NNSA's ability to further innovate minor 
construction and complete low-risk projects on time even during a 
period of higher-than-normal inflation.
    Using data-driven risk-informed tools, NNSA pinpoints when and 
where infrastructure investments are needed and develops innovative 
execution initiatives to streamline processes, accelerate delivery, and 
increase buying power. For example, in fiscal year 2019 NNSA 
established the EMC \2\ pilot program to streamline commercial-like 
construction projects. The initial program quickly expanded from four 
projects to ten in 2021, including the addition of five office 
buildings at LANL to support plutonium pit production. In fiscal year 
2022, NNSA completed the LLNL's Emergency Operations Center in just 13 
months after receiving full construction funding, the first project 
under this pilot program. This year, NNSA held the ribbon cutting for 
the Y-12 Fire Station and the Y-12 Emergency Operations Center. Both 
projects began construction in 2021 and were ready for full operations 
in just 2 years.
                        defense nuclear security
    Defense Nuclear Security's fiscal year 2024 budget request is $1.02 
billion, an increase of $144.7 million, or 16.6 percent, above the 
fiscal year 2023 enacted level. The Office of Defense Nuclear 
Security's primary mission is protecting the facilities, assets, and 
people responsible for successfully carrying out NNSA's national 
security missions. Growth in NNSA's mission portfolio, and the 
associated growth in projects in secure areas such as LAP4, UPF, and 
SRPPF, along with increased resources necessary to meet core security 
requirements, has led to increased program requirements for Defense 
Nuclear Security.
    Full funding of the fiscal year 2024 budget request will support 
these larger requirements as well as high-priority initiatives for the 
Physical Security Center of Excellence and the Center for Security, 
Technology, Analysis, Response, and Testing. Additionally, this 
increase includes additional funding for the West End Protected Area 
Reduction (WEPAR) project at Y-12 to address cost increases associated 
with contractor performance, delays in other projects outside WEPAR's 
scope, and external factors affecting projects enterprise wide.
                information technology and cybersecurity
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for information technology and 
cybersecurity is $578.4 million, an increase of $132.7 million, or 29.8 
percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. This request funds 
current operations and continues investments across NNSA to modernize 
both unclassified and classified systems and the execution of a robust 
and effective cybersecurity capability.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request supports the cost necessary to 
maintain a secure and resilient cyber program. The request invests in 
operations, mission support, infrastructure modernization, labor 
growth, and associated investments to execute statutory requirements, 
Executive Order 14028, policy requirements, and Office of Management 
and Budget memorandums. The fiscal year 2024 requested increase 
reflects investments in endpoint detection and response, zero trust 
architecture, operational technology, enterprise cybersecurity tools 
and services, and cyber workforce growth at the labs, plants, and 
sites.
    The request funds cybersecurity programs at NNSA's laboratories, 
plants, and sites to address the significant increase in technology use 
and keep pace with expanded NNSA mission requirements. The funding 
increase supports the ongoing modernization of NNSA's network 
architecture and classified systems, including the Emergency 
Communications Network. The fiscal year 2024 request includes the costs 
associated with classified infrastructure and capabilities, 
implementation of cloud infrastructure, and unclassified IT services. 
These improvements reflect NNSA priorities in improving both 
unclassified and classified collaboration tools and network services, 
as well as providing redundancy and improved performance for mission 
partners around the world.
                    defense nuclear nonproliferation
    From its inception, the Office of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation 
(DNN) has developed and implemented policy and technical solutions to 
minimize or eliminate proliferation sensitive materials and limit or 
prevent the spread of materials, technology, and expertise necessary 
for nuclear and radiological weapons. Longstanding and growing 
cooperation with partner governments; international organizations such 
as the IAEA, the World Customs Organization, and INTERPOL; and the 
private sector help develop and implement solutions. These programs 
work side-by-side with both NNSA's Weapons Activities and Naval 
Reactors programs to implement best practices for nonproliferation and 
materials security in our own programs. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
request for the DNN account is $2.51 billion, an increase of $19 
million, or 0.8 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. The 
request will be supplemented with prior year balances of $20 million. 
This account funds all nonproliferation-related activities in the 
offices of Defense Nuclear Nonproliferation (DNN), Emergency Operations 
(EO), and Counterterrorism and Counterproliferation (CTCP).
    DNN is working in a global landscape that has radically changed in 
the last 12 months. Russia's unprovoked full-scale invasion of Ukraine; 
the expansion and diversification of Russian and Chinese nuclear 
arsenals; the destabilizing activities of Iran and the Democratic 
People's Republic of Korea (DPRK); the expected growth in nuclear 
material, technology, and technical expertise resulting from the global 
expansion of nuclear power and nuclear technology adoption; and the 
associated risk of illicit smuggling and procurement networks all 
complicate nuclear nonproliferation missions and demonstrate the need 
for additional resources and deeper engagement with allies and 
partners. DNN will utilize these resources to improve capacity and 
capabilities, develop and incorporate cutting-edge technology required 
to address future threats, and deepen cooperation with partners.
    Globally and domestically, DNN has had success in reducing and 
eliminating nuclear materials. To date, DNN has removed or confirmed 
the disposition of nearly 7,300 kilograms of weapons-usable nuclear 
material from 48 countries and Taiwan, eliminated the need for weapons-
grade material at 108 civilian research reactors and isotope production 
facilities, and converted a cumulative 1,298 kilograms of plutonium to 
an oxide form in preparation for final disposition. Additionally, DNN 
has overseen the first three shipments of downblended surplus plutonium 
from the K area at SRS to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in New Mexico 
and removed 101 cesium blood and research irradiators form U.S. 
facilities. Working with domestic and international producers, DNN also 
provided financial and technical assistance for the conversion of the 
medical isotope molybdenum-99 (Mo-99), which is used in over 40,000 
procedures in the U.S. every day, production facilities from using 
highly enriched uranium to low enriched uranium. As a result, all major 
global Mo-99 production facilities now use low enriched uranium, 
eliminating a proliferation threat from a major global industry.
    DNN's Nonproliferation and Arms Control Program (NPAC) continues to 
cooperate closely with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to 
provide subject matter expertise and bolster the international 
verification regime through technology development and implementation 
for safeguards, arms control, and emerging challenges. The greater use 
of nuclear technology is an issue of increased salience for NPAC. In 
particular, nuclear energy programs are rapidly expanding as countries 
seek sources of zero-carbon electricity to combat climate change and 
enhance energy security. Promoting stringent safeguards and security 
policies and developing new monitoring and verification technologies 
all in partnership with like-minded countries are key to preventing 
proliferation. Additionally, NNSA provided technical advice to the 
interagency and our AUKUS partners on the full suite of requirements 
that underpin nuclear stewardship to implement the strongest possible 
safeguards and verification measures while achieving the overall 
objectives of AUKUS.
    DNN also sustains a robust research program that is vital in the 
development of technical capabilities which support nonproliferation, 
counterterrorism, and emergency response missions. This program also 
sustains and develops the foundational nonproliferation technical 
competencies that promote the agility needed to support a broad array 
of nonproliferation missions and potential threats. Our DNN R&D program 
additionally sustains experts in labs and universities, including 
people and test beds, and develops ways to get ahead of emerging 
threats.
    DNN also recently established a Bioassurance program which 
coordinates closely with DOE's Office of Science in leveraging national 
laboratory capabilities and technical expertise by making complementary 
investment in biological sciences and engineering, computational 
capability, and classified workspaces to advance fundamental 
understandings of biology and adapt those understandings to bio-
resilience and advancing capabilities for detection and attribution of 
biological weapons development activities. The Department appreciates 
Congress' support for the establishment of this program.
             nuclear counterterrorism and incident response
    The fiscal year 2024 request for Nuclear Counterterrorism and 
Incident Response (NCTIR) is $493.5 million, an increase of $23.6 
million, or 5 percent, above the fiscal year 2023 enacted level. The 
NCTIR program supports two subprograms: Counterterrorism and 
Counterproliferation (CTCP) and Emergency Operations (EO).
    The CTCP subprogram advances the Nation's technical capabilities to 
understand, defeat, and attribute nuclear threat devices, including 
INDs and lost or stolen nuclear weapons; provides technical guidance on 
physical security requirements for nuclear materials; and conducts 
Nuclear Threat Reduction exchanges with the United Kingdom and France 
to prevent, counter, and respond to nuclear terrorism and nuclear 
proliferation.
    CTCP also manages NEST, NNSA's multi-mission emergency response 
capability comprised of scientific and technical experts who are 
trained and equipped to respond rapidly in the event of a nuclear or 
radiological incident or accident worldwide. NEST includes nuclear 
forensics capabilities that enable technical personnel to identify the 
origin of nuclear material interdicted outside of regulatory control or 
used in a nuclear attack.
    Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine has resulted in an 
increased operational posture for CTCP since February 2022. In fiscal 
year 2023, CTCP received supplemental appropriations of $110.3 million 
to support the U.S. Government's response to Russia's ongoing war in 
Ukraine. CTCP is using these funds for radiation detection and 
monitoring of Ukrainian nuclear facilities; personal protective 
equipment; emergency diesel generators; and procurement of diesel fuel 
and consumables for Ukraine's nuclear power plants. CTCP will continue 
to deliver incident response training and build capacity among 
responders in Ukraine and other partner nations.
    The EO subprogram provides both the structure and processes to 
ensure a comprehensive and integrated approach to all-hazards emergency 
management across the Department. The EO program aims to improve 
readiness and effectiveness of the DOE Emergency Management System and 
the nuclear security enterprise response regardless of the nature or 
location of the emergency. Fiscal year 2024 funding provides for 24/7/
365 Consolidated Emergency Operations Center communications and 
coordination support to the DOE/NNSA Emergency Management Enterprise, 
nuclear security enterprise, and Departmental senior leadership.
                      naval reactors appropriation
    With 79 ships, or more than 40 percent of the Navy's major 
combatants,\3\ relying on nuclear propulsion technology, maintaining a 
qualitative edge in this area remains critical to our national security 
posture. Providing the Nation's submarines and aircraft carriers with 
unparalleled mobility, flexibility, responsiveness, and endurance is 
vital in today's complex geopolitical environment. The ability to 
maintain robust fleet capabilities on long-term missions is essential 
for the security of global trade and our allies. The Office of Naval 
Reactors remains the foundation of this national achievement in global 
security. Continuous progress in the Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program 
gives the U.S. Navy a decisive edge in naval warfare and enhances the 
security and reliability of the sea-based leg of our nuclear triad.
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    The fiscal year 2024 budget request for Naval Reactors is $1.96 
billion, a decrease of $117.3 million, or 5.6 percent, below the fiscal 
year 2023 enacted level. This decrease reflects the revised funding 
profile for the Spent Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project that was 
recently re-baselined, and near-complete refueling and overhaul of the 
S8G Prototype land-based reactor in New York. The budget request 
supports the continued safe and reliable operation of the nuclear-
powered fleet and provides for the continued maintenance, oversight, 
and operations at the four Naval Nuclear Laboratory sites and the 
associated contractor workforce. Funding also supports requirements for 
the office's major initiatives: Columbia-class ballistic missile 
submarine reactor systems development; development of the next 
generation SSN(X) attack submarine; and continued progress on base 
technology development, infrastructure recapitalization at program 
sites, and decontamination and decommissioning efforts.
    Consistent, sustained funding is vital for the support of these 
efforts and will allow Naval Reactors to meet current and future force 
needs; this foundational support of Naval Reactors is critical to our 
ability to deliver on AUKUS. The Columbia-class lead ship remains under 
construction and the Spent Fuel Handling Recapitalization Project at 
the Naval Reactors Facility in Idaho is ongoing. Additionally, work is 
underway to invigorate long lead-time technology development for the 
current and future nuclear fleet while supporting specific requirements 
to meet the Navy's timeline for the next-generation attack submarine 
ship authorization.
                             nnsa workforce
    NNSA's workforce represents the backbone of the Nation's nuclear 
security enterprise. The fiscal year 2024 budget request is $539 
million, an increase of $64 million, or 13.5 percent, above the fiscal 
year 2023 enacted level. The fiscal year 2024 request supports staffing 
levels sufficient to provide oversight and leadership for our growing 
mission requirements in the modernization, recapitalization, 
nonproliferation, and counterterrorism programs. NNSA seeks to recruit 
and retain top talent in a wide array of fields including science, 
engineering, crafts and trade, business, foreign affairs and social 
sciences, and project and program management.
     new and critical phase of the environmental management mission
    As important as the missions of today and tomorrow are, the cold 
war left an indelible mark on America. It is the mission of the Office 
of Environmental Management (EM) is to address the legacy of nuclear 
weapons development and government-sponsored nuclear energy research 
that has played a significant role in domestic security and prosperity.
    As the largest environmental cleanup program in the world, EM plays 
a key role in the Department's overarching mission to protect the 
planet. The Department's fiscal year 2024 budget request of $8.3 
billion will help EM continue to make progress in fulfilling the 
government's responsibility to clean up the environment in communities 
that supported nuclear weapons programs and government-sponsored 
nuclear energy research. EM's vital mission also helps to support and 
enable DOE's ongoing national security and scientific research 
missions.
    Over the last 30 years, EM has achieved significant progress for 
the environment, completing cleanup at 92 out of a total of 107 sites. 
That progress continues today. In 2022, EM teams across the country 
crossed the finish line on key demolitions, treated and relocated 
millions of gallons of waste, and deepened our engagements with local 
Tribes and communities all while curbing pollution and contributing to 
climate solutions.
    Deactivation and demolition work at the Oak Ridge National 
Laboratory and the Y-12 National Security Complex is reducing 
environmental risks and enabling research and national security 
missions. At the Hanford site in Washington State, EM has cocooned the 
seventh reactor along the Columbia River leaving just one more to go. 
EM has also treated over 400,000 gallons of radioactive and chemical 
waste from large underground tanks at the Hanford Site where work is 
progressing toward startup of a system that will convert this waste 
into glass for disposal. This Spring, the EM team in Idaho met a key 
commitment to the State of Idaho by completing the transfer of EM-owned 
spent nuclear fuel to onsite dry storage and marked a historic 
achievement with the startup of a new tank waste treatment capability 
that will address one of the Department's greatest challenges at the 
site.
    At the Savannah River Site in Aiken, South Carolina EM is 
processing record amounts of tank waste and continues to advance the 
Advanced Manufacturing Collaborative facility which will help meet the 
needs of the Department's cleanup mission and help develop a diverse 
and talented next generation workforce.
    More than 200 transuranic waste shipments were received last year 
at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant (WIPP) in New Mexico from five 
generator sites. In addition, EM has launched demolition of the West 
Valley Demonstration Project's Main Plant Process Building, a priority 
that will continue this year and will further advance under the fiscal 
year 2024 budget request. The Nevada National Security Site is 
preparing to demolish four Test Cell C buildings this year and will 
continue to reduce the cleanup footprint there in fiscal year 2024.
    The fiscal year 2024 request include $7.5 billion for defense 
environmental cleanup activities, which covers most major EM sites and 
includes the Uranium Enrichment Decontamination and Decommissioning 
Fund contribution. The request builds on recent progress, reflects the 
Department's strong commitment to protecting the environment, enabling 
national security and scientific research missions, as well as 
delivering for communities most impacted by the legacy of the past. The 
request supports a ramp up in EM's ability to tackle tank waste--one of 
the Department's largest environmental challenges and financial 
liabilities. The request will also enable continued progress in 
infrastructure improvements at the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant and 
support waste shipments from across the EM program. In addition, EM 
will continue to advance facility demolition and risk reduction 
projects across the program.
    The request of $1.97 billion for the Office of River Protection 
will enable EM to advance commissioning and startup of the Direct Feed 
Low Activity Waste system and includes a $600 million investment to 
ramp up work on the Waste Treatment Plant's High Level Waste facility. 
Also at Hanford, the request of $1.02 billion for the Richland 
Operations Office will enable continued risk reduction activities 
including advancing the transfer of cesium and strontium capsules to 
dry storage and treating another 2 billion gallons of contaminated 
groundwater.
    At the Savannah River Site, the request of $1.74 billion supports 
utilization of capabilities to accelerate the tank waste mission. The 
request will also maintain a high State of readiness for H Canyon, the 
only chemical separations facility remaining in operation in the United 
States.
    At the Idaho Cleanup Project, the request of $447 million supports 
operations of the Integrated Waste Treatment Unit which will ultimately 
treat about 900,000 gallons of liquid waste by turning it into a 
granular solid.
    Along with providing for continued Waste Isolation Pilot Plant 
operations, the budget request supports key modernization and 
infrastructure recapitalization priorities. Shipments of legacy 
transuranic waste to the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant will progress from 
sites across the DOE complex, including the Los Alamos National 
Laboratory in New Mexico.
    EM's fiscal year 2024 budget also facilitates the Department's 
broader national security and scientific research missions. With the 
first-ever demolition of a reactor in the central campus area at the 
Oak Ridge National Laboratory and the successful cleanup of a portion 
of the Y-12 National Security Complex that will be utilized by the NNSA 
for a new Lithium Processing Facility, EM's steady progress is a part 
of a broader vision focused not only on cleaning up the past, but also 
helping prepare for expanding national security and research missions 
in Oak Ridge, Tennessee. The request builds on that progress with $519 
million for Oak Ridge to continue cleanup operations at the Oak Ridge 
National Laboratory and Y-12 National Security Complex excess 
facilities.
    In addition to enabling impactful progress at EM sites, the fiscal 
year 2024 request reflects a planning approach that will boost the 
Department's ability to complete its cleanup mission and deliver for 
impacted communities. Today, the environmental management mission is at 
an important crossroads. After 30 years of mitigating the most pressing 
risks, the program is embarking on a new and critical phase of the 
mission that requires addressing some of the toughest challenges.
    To address these challenges, the Department will need a deep and 
diverse bench of Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math talent. The 
fiscal year 2024 request invests in building a workforce for the future 
that promotes diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility. That 
includes high-quality jobs in environmental cleanup where workers from 
all backgrounds can make a living and make a difference. The budget 
request includes $56 million to continue EM's recently expanded 
Minority Serving Institutions Partnership Program.
    While the mission is rooted in the environmental legacy of the 
past, EM is also focused on the possibilities for the future. As 
cleanup progresses, EM is opening up possibilities for a clean energy 
future, good paying jobs and thriving communities and Tribal Nations. 
The fiscal year 2024 request represents a significant investment in 
helping the communities grow and thrive. The budget request includes 
support for the Tribal Nations, Alaska Native communities, and 
communities near EM sites ensuring they are safe, providing 
opportunities for local input into clean up priorities and helping 
build a vibrant future. The request includes Payment in Lieu of Taxes 
funding for communities near Hanford and Savannah River to support 
schools, roads and other local priorities. A $40 million investment is 
included for the Community Capacity Building initiative as well as 
support for EM's participation in the Department's cross-cutting 
Justice40 Initiative. This initiative has led to expanded grants to 
support community and Tribal engagement as well as STEM and Community 
Based Education programs.
    The Department will continue to work hand-in-hand with workers, 
unions, Tribal Nations, local communities, and Congress to protect the 
environment, plan for continued cleanup and foster successful visions 
for the future.
                        enhancing cybersecurity
Cybersecurity Threats to the Energy Sector
    Within the United States energy sector, an incredible transition is 
underway. New sources of energy generation are coming online; new 
digital tools and technologies are being leveraged to improve 
reliability and efficiency; and new market forces are shaping how we 
interact with energy daily, in vehicles, homes, and businesses across 
the country. With these changes come new risks and new opportunities to 
advance our cybersecurity posture.
    The Department's Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and 
Emergency Response (CESER) is focused on securing the Nation's energy 
infrastructure against all hazards, reducing the risks and impacts of 
cyber and other disruptive events, and supporting State, local, tribal, 
and territorial governments (SLTT), as well as industry, with response 
and restoration when a disruption occurs.
    As this Committee knows well, DOE has tremendous expertise both at 
headquarters and across the 17 National Laboratories to help us tackle 
cyber threats to the U.S. energy sector. DOE, through CESER, leads 
numerous efforts to push the boundaries of what is possible in energy 
cybersecurity.
    I will highlight three initiatives that CESER is leading to enhance 
energy cybersecurity: 1) the Energy Threat Analysis Center (ETAC) pilot 
efforts; 2) Energy Cyber Sense; and 3) additional efforts to integrate 
cybersecurity into next generation energy systems.
Enhancing Cyber Threat Collaboration
    The congressionally chartered Cyberspace Solarium Commission and 
the recently released National Cybersecurity Strategy (NCS) call out 
the need for shared responsibility between the public and private 
sectors, as much of the Nation's energy infrastructure is privately 
owned and operated. The NCS specifically highlights DOE's pilot of the 
ETAC as an example of the new and innovative capabilities that the 
Nation needs to build to effectively collaborate at the scale and speed 
needed to defend critical infrastructure. In coordination with CISA and 
the private sector, the ETAC pilot will bring experts from government 
and industry together to analyze and address cyber threats to the 
energy sector. The work of the pilot will inform a feasibility study, 
which will provide a roadmap for the future of the ETAC. Through this 
new, persistent, operational approach to cyber collaboration, we will 
close gaps in our collective situational awareness of threats, improve 
our ability to mitigate and defend against them, and support the 
Nation's response to incidents within the energy system.
Securing Energy Sector Supply Chains
    The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA) made crucial 
investments in the cybersecurity of our energy sector supply chains. 
The IIJA called upon DOE to establish an Energy Cyber Sense program to 
strengthen the cybersecurity of hardware and software the sector 
depends on to operate the energy systems of today. Energy Cyber Sense 
will serve as a hub for CESER activities related to development of 
supply chain policies, standards, testing, educational awareness, and 
others to allow the Department to take a broad view of addressing this 
cyber risk. Lessons learned from this program will be shared with 
energy sector asset owners and manufacturers who are best positioned to 
address them. A flagship initiative of Energy Cyber Sense is the Cyber 
Testing for Resilient Industrial Control Systems, or CyTRICS TM 
program, which leverages the best-in-class test facilities and analytic 
capabilities of the DOE National Laboratories to inform improvements 
that strengthen the security and resilience of hardware and software in 
the energy sector. CyTRICS TM partners with top manufacturers and 
utilities in the sector to identify systemic supply chain 
vulnerabilities that can help us engineer out cyber weaknesses in next-
generation energy systems.
Building in Security into Energy Systems
    It is far more efficient and effective to build in security 
measures as new technologies are designed than it is to bolt on 
cybersecurity solutions once hardware or software is in use. In 
addition to our supply chain investments focused on security, CESER is 
also focused on a number of efforts to realize security by design in 
the energy sector including the development of cybersecurity baselines 
for owners and operators and investments in research, development, and 
demonstration (RD&D) to bring new solutions to the market.
    In 2022, several states began exploring the development of 
cybersecurity baselines for utilities operating within their 
jurisdiction. To prevent a patchwork approach to the implementation of 
cyber baselines, CESER provided funding to the National Association of 
Regulatory Utility Commissioners (NARUC) to kick off an effort to 
establish a set of cybersecurity baselines for distribution electric 
systems and distributed energy resources. The focus of this engagement 
is to establish cybersecurity best practices that will demonstrably buy 
down the cyber risk to our country's energy infrastructure. This effort 
will help create a more stable, more predictable business environment 
for energy innovators over time while having a real impact on the 
overall cybersecurity of our energy systems.
    DOE is also actively working to reduce risks to the electricity, 
oil, and natural gas systems through threat-informed RD&D of next 
generation tools and technologies that provide U.S. energy companies 
cutting-edge cyber protection, monitoring, detection, response, 
containment, forensics, and recovery capabilities. Last year, CESER 
released a $45 million Funding Opportunity Announcement (FOA) to 
strengthen the cybersecurity of next generation energy systems that 
will create, accelerate, and test technology to protect our energy 
systems from cyber attacks. Further, CESER executed a $12 million FOA 
to establish a network of university-based, regional cybersecurity 
research and development centers across the Nation. Finally, CESER 
awarded $12 million for six university-based RD&D projects focused on 
the development of cutting-edge cyber-physical platform tools and 
technologies that can detect and mitigate incidents in electric power 
systems. DOE will also continue to implement the Cybersecurity for the 
Energy Sector Research, Development, and Demonstration Program pursuant 
to Section 40125 of the IIJA. This $250 million program is designed to 
support the development and deployment of advanced cyber applications, 
technologies, and threat collaboration efforts through cooperative 
agreements and contracts with utilities, the National Labs, 
manufacturers, and vendors. The first Lab Call for this program is 
expected in the coming weeks.
                               conclusion
    At DOE, we continue to make progress in fields that enhance 
American national security during a time of significant global 
challenges. NNSA's weapons activities, nonproliferation and 
counterterrorism, and naval reactors programs all play key roles in 
reducing global nuclear threats and supporting our nuclear deterrent 
which remains the cornerstone of our national defense. The Department 
faces an expanded mission at a time of supply chain disruptions, 
inflation, great power competition, and increased impacts from climate 
change. We are determined to succeed and continue providing for the 
American people. We appreciate the trust and resources the Committee 
has placed in us to meet this moment and are thankful for the continued 
support of the public and the rest of Congress.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Administrator. Madam 
Secretary, in my opening statement, I mentioned, and indeed you 
have all referenced as the difficulty in accelerating or even 
keeping on schedule with construction projects because of the 
increase in costs due to shortage of skilled laborers, 
specialty materials, especially for these nuclear projects.
    How serious is this problem across the entire Department of 
Energy, and what are you doing about it?
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is a 
serious problem. I mean, as Administrator Hruby just 
acknowledged, those three issues, workforce, inflation, and 
supply chain have impacted not just the NNSA projects, but 
projects all across our enterprise, at our labs, for example. 
It is impacting construction across the country as we are 
seeing.
    There is no doubt that it is a challenge, and so, the 
question is how can we, particularly on the workforce side, how 
can we recruit and train a new cadre of employees for these 
very important missions? Especially as we are competing with 
the private sector, and full-on increases in manufacturing 
projects all across the country.
    You know, in large measure, a lot of these are newer 
projects, thanks to what Congress has given through the 
Inflation Reduction Act. That competition will be real. 
Fortunately, the NNSA has done a lot of work on reaching out 
to--across the country, trying to incentivize a new workforce, 
trying to do a better job, a big job of recruiting.
    They have been fortunate that their attrition rate has 
dropped to about 3 percent, which is much better than it had 
been. But there is no doubt that we are looking at all measures 
to be able to do that.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. Administrator Hruby, you 
mentioned, and I also mentioned, the Ranking Member, of the 
challenge of synchronizing all of these different projects, 
particularly at Los Alamos and in Savannah with respect to the 
80-pit production objective, which is the law of the land.
    One of the aspects of this is coming up with an integrated 
master schedule for reduction, and you have not done so yet. 
Can you give us an idea of when this integrated master schedule 
will be ready?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. Thanks, Senator Reed. We have, in 
fact developed and integrated master schedule. We rolled it out 
in October 2021. The issue that has been cited by the GAO 
[Government Accountability Office] about our integrated master 
schedule is it isn't in enough detail to help to be as useful 
as possible, and we agree with that.
    But the reason it isn't detailed is because we are still in 
the design phases for both of these projects. We have 
activities going on, and the activities that are going on are 
completely in the schedule.
    But until we finish design phases, it is hard to have the 
integrated master schedule at the level of detail that the GAO 
would like to see to make that tool as effective as possible, 
and we will continue to populate the integrated master schedule 
with more detail as the designs mature.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Madam Secretary, I have 
got about a minute plus. Can you highlight some of the efforts 
that you have been engaged with helping Ukraine? Because one of 
the critical issues they have is keeping the lights on, 
literally.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, very briefly. We, at the 
Department of Energy, both at the NNSA and in the non-defense 
side, have one, made sure that we have been in touch with all 
of the utilities across the country to ask them for donations 
to help send equipment to shore up the energy grid in Ukraine.
    We are now about to send our ninth plane of equipment that 
the utilities have been either donated or that we have 
purchased from them. Number two, with the NNSA, we have made 
sure that we have installed sensors in Ukraine to detect 
radiological activity.
    We have been training people in Ukraine in the event--in 
how to respond to a radiological action. We have been focused 
on as well, the next step.
    What does the grid look like? How should we design a grid 
in partnership with Ukraine that is war proofed as we buildup? 
In the postwar environment, hopefully that happens soon, what 
should the next grid look like? Consistent with what President 
Zelensky has said, which is that he would like to see a 
distributed grid that would make it safer.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much. When I was there 
in January and spoke with President Zelensky, he specifically 
asked for what you are doing, and I commend you for doing it, 
which is to get our private utilities to donate equipment that 
they had available. I think that is a remarkable contribution. 
Thank you. Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you for pointing that out, Mr. 
Chairman. I share the commendation of that move by our American 
Government. Let's talk, Administrator Hruby, about China. 
Before we considered them a major nuclear power, the United 
States entered into agreements with Russia with regard to 
orbital nukes.
    As I mentioned earlier in my statement, China is not bound 
by that, and I think it comes as a shock to many of us that 
China is pursuing this never before path that is very risky. 
Would you tell us and the American public about this orbital 
idea that China has, how far along are they, and how it affects 
us?
    Administrator Hruby. Well, thanks, Senator Wicker. This 
fractional orbital bombardment concept has existed for decades, 
and as a result with Russia and others, we have discouraged its 
development.
    China and Russia are modernizing their delivery systems, 
and this is just one of many things that they are considering. 
We have got to figure out a way to get back into dialogs to 
talk about these types of systems and the instability that 
results if they are deployed.
    I don't want to say a lot about the assessment of how far 
along this is in an open session, but clearly, it is concerning 
and it is something that we are keeping a close eye on.
    Senator Wicker. Well, is it fair to say that there were 
developments last year that became public that were more 
troubling than before?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Last year, Madam Secretary and Madam 
Administrator, you asked for unfunded request. This year you 
didn't. Why on earth did we not hear an unfunded request this 
year?
    Secretary Granholm. Senator, the unfunded request last year 
was associated with the Savannah River pit production facility, 
and we greatly appreciate having received the request and is 
being put to great use there to accelerate activities.
    This year, the Department, as verified by the Nuclear 
Weapons Council, has submitted a budget request that fully 
funds the activities that we think we need to conduct--to meet 
all the requirements and to conduct our mission.
    Senator Wicker. So, all of the requirements that you need 
were approved by OMB [Office of Management and Budget], and you 
don't need to go beyond that for modernization programs to be 
delivered on time, that is your point of view?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, if somebody else may want to 
talk about sea launched cruise missile programs, SLCM. But does 
the Administration persist in telling this Committee and this 
Congress that we do not need to pursue a sea launch cruise 
missile program?
    Secretary Granholm. The Administration is following the NPR 
[Nuclear Posture Review], and they have not recommended it. 
However, we know that Congress has also provided funding for 
some studies through NNSA and the Department of Defense, and 
those are being undertaken.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, is it the Administration's 
position that we should press ahead on sea-launched cruise 
missile programs as an important priority, or is the 
Administration simply going along with what they feel they need 
to do without violating the statute?
    Secretary Granholm. I think the Administration respects the 
decision of the NPR and will follow that recommendation.
    Senator Wicker. Would you rather we not fund the SLCM-N?
    Secretary Granholm. It would--it is the Department of 
Energy, obviously would fund the nuclear capability. But we are 
following the direction of the Department of Defense.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Senator Shaheen. Good morning. Thank you, Secretary 
Granholm and Administrator Hruby, for being here this morning 
and for your testimony. Secretary Granholm, you mentioned AUKUS 
in your opening remarks, and the Department of Energy's Naval 
Reactors Program is the lead entity for the development and 
operational support for the use of naval nuclear propulsion 
systems.
    Obviously, the AUKUS agreement is a very important 
opportunity for us to work with Australia and the United 
Kingdom on ensuring that we all have the technology that we 
need as we face the threat from China.
    But can you tell us what the status of AUKUS discussions 
are that are associated with the transfer of naval reactor 
technology? Are there timelines that have been established, and 
are there obstacles in transferring that technology that we 
need to in order to cooperate?
    Secretary Granholm. We have had very positive initial 
agreements with Australia. We want to make sure we meet the 
milestones that are in those agreements.
    The Navy is very confident that it can do so and is very 
encouraged by the cooperation we have had so far, including on 
ensuring that the Australian Navy is capable of being trained 
and operating these facilities.
    We are in--right now, training some of the Australian 
members of the navy to be able to understand what it is like to 
operate a nuclear navy--naval ship. We want to make sure that 
we are continuing a pace and are very encouraged by how it is 
going.
    Senator Shaheen. So, you are not concerned that there are 
obstacles that are preventing that transfer of technology that 
could delay the cooperation that we need as part of that 
agreement?
    Secretary Granholm. They are working through all of the 
pieces. I mean, some of the questions that have been raised on 
both sides, what happens at the end of life, et cetera, those 
are all being worked on, but it is not delaying or deterring 
the project from going forward.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. You, in talking about what the 
Department of Energy is doing to help Ukraine, I understood you 
to say we are training people. Is that for the threat of an 
attack against the nuclear plants in Russia, or is it for the 
potential that Russia might use a tactical nuclear weapon?
    Secretary Granholm. It is both. Wherever there may be some 
sort of radiological activity, we want to make sure that people 
are trained in both response and detection, and so, the 
training has been ongoing in that regard.
    We have, as I mentioned, put sensors in and around Ukraine 
to ensure that we know what is going on as well. We are very 
lashed up with both the operators of nuclear plants, as well as 
folks on the ground to ensure that they are safe.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Well, that is encouraging. I am 
not going to ask you whether you think there is--we should be 
concerned about Putin's statements, since I will let DOD 
respond to that.
    But, in the past year, Putin has decided to suspend 
Russia's participation in the New Srategic Arms Reduction 
(START) treaty. That means we are no longer going to have the 
ability to inspect Russia's nuclear arsenal, and it will limit 
what we know about what they are doing.
    Can you talk, Administrator, about the impact that this has 
on nonproliferation and norms for mutual inspections, and 
whether you see any way for us to get back on track and whether 
there are any future opportunities with Russia and China?
    Secretary Granholm. Certainly, Senator. The--well, I would 
just say it is deeply disappointing that Russia has suspended 
their participation and New START for several reasons.
    The most important is it is the only treaty we have that 
limits the number of nuclear weapons, and that is a stabilizing 
that, you know, it provides predictability, it provides--the 
treaty provides transparency through inspections and regular 
notifications.
    We lose a lot by their suspension from this treaty in terms 
of stability, precautions. We would absolutely like them to 
come back into compliance with that treaty and, or begin the 
discussion of another treaty that limits the number of nuclear 
weapons for all those reasons.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We all recognize 
that NNSA is balancing multiple life extension programs, along 
with facility and infrastructure modernization. It is a 
workload NNSA hasn't seen since the cold war.
    However, during the cold war, we were able to prioritize 
the production of nuclear weapons and delivery systems because 
we recognized the existential threat and the role that nuclear 
deterrence plays in addressing that threat.
    I believe we have to return to that mindset. As Senator 
Wicker said, complacency is unacceptable. Administrator, NNSA's 
core mission is delivering nuclear weapons to the warfighter. 
Can you discuss ongoing efforts to accelerate delivery of 
projects and programs, please?
    Administrator Hruby. Thank you, Senator Fischer. I could 
not agree more, complacency is not acceptable. We are working 
hard to return the NNSA complex to what I am calling the era of 
responsiveness.
    So, with respect to our programs, as you know and as I 
commented, the programs are on schedule and synchronized with 
the Department of Defense.
    We feel we know--having said that, we know there are some 
high-risk activities in those programs, and we are putting lots 
of effort buy, to lower that risk in terms of a few components 
that are pacing the schedule. But we feel confident about those 
programs and the synchronization with the DOD.
    Senator Fischer. Can you give us just a couple examples of 
what you are looking at to accelerate those programs? This 
Committee has had deep concerns about the tightness of the 
schedule and being able to have all the components we need in 
order to meet the demands that we are facing out there. So, can 
you give me just, short, couple of examples?
    Administrator Hruby. I will. On the W80-4, there are a few 
components in that system that by historical standards, we 
would not have on schedule.
    So, we have placed a priority on those components. We have 
increased the number of people, we have increased the way we 
track those programs to make sure that we don't realize any 
risk. The W87-1 is a program worth all newly manufactured 
parts. That is a program where we have to make sure that we 
have the production capabilities on time to build the parts on 
time.
    Very challenging. It is pacing everything we do in 
construction. Getting Los Alamos up and making pits is our top 
priority for that, accelerating that activity.
    Senator Fischer. Last week when you testified before the 
Strategic Forces Subcommittee, you said the most challenging 
programs that you have are those large nuclear construction 
projects. You also added that this is really the first 
enterprise rebuild since the Manhattan Project.
    Can you talk about how you have changed your approach 
there? You also were saying that NNSA is breaking projects into 
chunks. Can you give me some examples there, how you are 
addressing those large, very large projects?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, thank you. On the construction 
projects, because of supply chain challenges, we are explicitly 
designing equipment, but as pacing the facility design, so that 
we can get the equipment purchased.
    A good--so we don't have a facility without equipment. The 
best example of this is glove boxes, which we have talked about 
before. There is a limited number of glove box suppliers in the 
United States, and we are buying a lot of glove boxes for all 
of our nuclear facilities.
    So, we are designing--these are very specialized. It sounds 
like they are a box, but in fact, they are very specialized 
designs. We are working with U.S. industry to purchase those 
glove boxes and to make sure that they understand the demand 
that is coming so they will be able to meet it. That is an 
example of a chunk.
    Senator Fischer. Is that going to help with pit 
production----
    Administrator Hruby. Absolutely.
    Senator Fischer.--on Savannah River?
    Administrator Hruby. Both Los Alamos and Savannah River. We 
are working that as a collective. We have a working group that 
includes all of our projects that are going to need glove box 
and U.S. industry, so that we can send a clear signal of what 
we need and we can prioritize the equipment to be ready when 
the facility is ready.
    Senator Fischer. Great. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator Manchin, 
please.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
Secretary Granholm and Administrator Ruby for being here. I 
appreciate it. I recently went to Ukraine, saw firsthand the 
impact of the war on their energy infrastructure. Russia is 
targeting with missiles and drones on a daily basis, making it 
almost impossible, and also, Ukraine's energy grid leading to 
outages not only for the compromises their Zaporizhzhia nuclear 
power plant, but it is also compromising the three other 
electric producing nuclear power plants in Ukraine.
    They all require external power to operate their reactor 
cooling systems, and they were very much concerned about that 
and essential nuclear safety and security functions that go 
with it.
    I understand that DOE [Department of Energy] and NNSA has 
supported rebuilding Ukraine's grid and integrating it with 
Europe as well, so helping monitor and reduce the nuclear risks 
that go with that. So, can, Madam Secretary, you could start 
with how do you describe DOE's involvement in this and their 
support for Ukraine? Then, Administrator Hruby, you can tell me 
from NNSA, where are you all.
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you so much, Senator Manchin. 
Number one, it is really important that Ukraine remain 
synchronized with the European grid. The DOE has worked with 
their grid operators to ensure that synchronization can occur.
    It has been, and it has been very important to achieving a 
level of stability of the grid. Number two is making sure that 
they have the grid components necessary to rebuild. Since you 
were there, you are probably aware that they have a particular 
problem with transformers.
    The transformers on their system are a Soviet era type. Our 
grid operators don't have that type of transformer. However, 
they have provided us with pages of lists of grid components 
that they need, whether maybe switch boxes, circuit breakers, 
et cetera, and this is where we have gathered----
    Senator Manchin. Are you concerned--I am sorry to interrupt 
you. Are you concerned that maybe--I mean, if they are not able 
to have the additional power to keep cooler their nuclear 
system, we could have a real catastrophe over there.
    Are you concerned about that? That is the reason we are 
working, trying to backfill. How about our European NATO [North 
Atlantic Treaty Organization] allies that have those same 
European--are you able to connect that?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. In fact, our allies have been 
tremendously helpful and some of them actually do have access 
to the kind of transformers that they need.
    I will say, and I know Administrator Hruby will say this 
too, we have also included sending generators to ensure that 
the power that is feeding Zaporizhzhia and the other plants 
that are operating are not going completely cold.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. Just to add on to that, the 
nuclear power plants in Ukraine, all and on around the world, 
have diesel generators as backup power. Those diesel generators 
are also Soviet era, at Zaporizhzhia, and they have been--they 
are not designed to be--go off and on as often as they have had 
to because of problems with the electric grid.
    So, we have been concerned about them and what we have done 
in NNSA, in partnership with the Department of Energy and the 
other things they have done for the grid, is we have supplied 
truck mounted diesel generators that could be used at the power 
plant. We have also supplied additional diesel fuel.
    Senator Manchin. Let me ask you another question then. 
Saudi Arabia has the desire to go into the civil nuclear arena, 
and they have reached out, as I understand. We have not been 
receptive. I believe it is imperative that we have that 
relationship with Saudi. I rather them working with us than any 
other country in building their civil nuclear programs. Where 
do you stand on that and are you all involved?
    Administrator Hruby. Well, both the Secretary and I have 
talked to people, the leaders in Saudi Arabia, about their 
civil nuclear program. We would very much like to be involved 
in the supply of, you know, the plant----
    Senator Manchin. I understand they have reached out and not 
only asked you to help, but also oversee the program, and have 
not got a positive or got any answer from you all.
    Administrator Hruby. Well, I don't think that is an 
accurate statement.
    Senator Manchin. Okay. I can report back, and you give me 
the accurate statement and I will make sure it is carried back.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, we are asking the Saudis to be 
consistent with nonproliferation standards that we have for 
every other country that we work with on civil nuclear power. 
They have been avoiding making those commitments, so it makes 
it very hard for us to continue.
    Senator Manchin. I promise in a more classified setting, we 
can go into detail. I am happy to be. I just think it is 
imperative that we repair our relationship. It is imperative 
for all of us, and it is really the safety of the world.
    Administrator Hruby. I agree, and we met with the new 
United States Ambassador to KSA [Kingdom of Saudi Arabia] last 
week before his departure there and had discussions on these 
topics with him, so.
    Senator Manchin. Maybe you and I can followup.
    Administrator Hruby. Okay. Thank you.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Administrator Hruby. The United States and Kingdom of Saudi 
Arabia (KSA) have been in discussions about a 123 agreement 
since 2012. The United States has emphasized the need for the 
highest international safeguards and security standards in a 
potential agreement, including prohibitions on enrichment and 
reprocessing, and the conclusion of an Additional Protocol with 
the International Atomic Energy Agency. KSA has not yet agreed 
to such requirements in a 123 agreement. Such an agreement 
would allow U.S. nuclear industry participation in the 
development of the Saudi nuclear energy sector and continue to 
further U.S. nonproliferation objectives in the region. The 
Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended (AEA), notes that the 
U.S. Department of State is the lead negotiator of 123 
agreements for the United States. Furthermore, the law notes 
that the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) provides technical 
support to 123 agreement negotiations. Once a 123 is brought 
into force, the Department of Energy National Nuclear Security 
Administration leads technical implementation of such 
agreements.
    Under Section 57 b. (2) of the AEA, DOE has statutory 
responsibility for authorizing the transfer of unclassified 
nuclear technology and assistance to foreign atomic energy 
activities, both within the United States and abroad. Part 810 
of Title 10, Code of Federal Regulations implements this 
requirement. As of May 23, 2023, there are two outstanding 
requests pending with DOE from U.S. companies seeking specific 
authorization from the Secretary of Energy under Part 810 to 
transfer technology to KSA. Both requests require KSA to 
provide government-to-government peaceful use assurances to the 
United States to proceed. To date, KSA has not provided the 
required assurances after repeated requests.

    Senator Manchin. Thank you. Thank you, Secretary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Secretary 
Granholm, I would like to start this morning by asking about 
the Biden administration's energy policies and their impact on 
our national security.
    The President has been cheerleading for green tech, and I 
feel that this has harmed the DOD's operational energy 
approach. It is enriching our adversaries and boosting harmful 
players on the forced labor supply chain.
    Last year, the President proposed to mandate the Department 
of Defense's non-tactical vehicle fleet in exchange for an all-
electric vehicle fleet by 2030. The Senate intervened last year 
on a bipartisan basis to prevent the directive from becoming 
law because, number one, we recognize that China controls 
mining and production for electric vehicle components.
    Number two, this Administration has hamstrung a number of 
aggressive permitting reforms for mining and processing of 
renewables right here in the United States, domestic mining and 
energy.
    Secretary Granholm, you have been one of the Biden 
administration's leading advocates for green energy, and you 
have even praised China's work on climate change. Do you 
believe China is a reliable partner in achieving and 
stabilizing United States energy independence and security?
    Secretary Granholm. First, I was comparing China's 
investment in renewable energy to the rest of the globe, and 
they have invested four times as much as the United States has. 
Even as, they are not a reliable partner with respect to their 
human rights abuses.
    Number two, though, I just want to respond to the electric 
vehicle issue. China does control a big amount of the critical 
minerals, but that is exactly what the President's Invest in 
America agenda is slated to overturn. We want to see 
responsible extraction here. We want to see processing here.
    We want to see the critical minerals integrated into 
battery packs here and put into vehicles. In fact, since the 
Inflation Reduction Act was passed, 150 battery companies have 
announced they are coming or expanding battery supply chain, 
including extraction--have announced they are coming to the 
United States.
    Senator Ernst. That is great, and I can't wait to see that 
happen. I hope it happens before 2030, because that is a very 
aggressive mandate. I know that the permitting process for a 
number of these operations will take years and years and years. 
So, if we don't streamline that, it is not going to happen.
    Secretary Granholm. I think we would--I don't know anyone 
who wouldn't disagree with you on that.
    Senator Ernst. Okay. So, we will watch for that in the next 
year or so. I hope that this really takes on a much faster 
approach than what we have seen in the past. I know your 
department also has ongoing consideration of a $200 million 
grant to a China based lithium battery company.
    I don't want to see American dollars going toward Chinese 
investment. I think that is really irresponsible. Let's invest 
in domestic energy production and mining. The Administration's 
failure to greenlight year-round, low cost, low carbon fuel 
like E15, is another concern that I have, and I think that all 
of these things combined are negatively affecting the DOD.
    I believe the proposed swapping of the military's non-
tactical vehicles for an all-electric fleet, again, by 2030 
really is putting the climate crusade ahead of our department's 
lethality. We need to focus on that first. Do you support the 
military adopting that EV fleet by 2030?
    Secretary Granholm. I do, and I think we can get there as 
well. I do think that reducing our reliance on the volatility 
of globally traded fossil fuels, where we know that global 
events such as the war in Ukraine can jack up prices for people 
back home, it does not contribute to energy security.
    I think energy security is achieved when we have homegrown 
clean energy that is abundant like you see in Iowa. We think 
that we can be a leader globally in how we have become energy 
independent.
    Senator Ernst. Well, and when it comes to the EV [electric 
vehicle] fleet, I don't support it. I think we have got a $10 
billion price tag here on a very expensive, unreliable product. 
We need reliability, and I am going to make a plug again for 
our homegrown energy.
    We have a fleet right now that can use ethanol products, 
that can use biodiesel, right now. We don't have to invest that 
$10 billion. Any one of our non-tactical vehicles can pull up 
to a pump, fill up with biodiesel, and we are good to go, right 
now, at no additional cost to the DOD. At a time when we are 
constrained by dollars, we need to take what we have right now 
and utilize it.
    I appreciate your optimism when it comes to developing 
mining opportunities here in the United States. We will see if 
that actually materializes under this Administration. Thank you 
very much, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and Administrator 
Hruby, Governor Granholm, we met when we were Governors 
together. You were Governor at a very challenging time, the 
fiscal collapse of 2008, 2009. All of us, all 50 of us really, 
really had our hands full. Nobody had their hands full more 
than you.
    I grew to admire your leadership greatly at that moment and 
since. I want to ask you about two items. First, I know Senator 
Shaheen has already had a discussion with you about AUKUS, and 
I was at another committee hearing, but I wanted to dig into it 
a little bit.
    The subs that are made in the United States are made in 
Virginia and Connecticut, and all the reactors that go into 
those subs are made in Virginia at Lynchburg. What in--in the 
AUKUS discussions with Australia and the UK [United Kingdom], 
what have been the discussions thus far about production of the 
reactors that will go into the subs?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, obviously we will be producing 
those reactors and the subs themselves, and our--a lot of the 
discussions have been around milestones that Australia has to 
achieve, as well as milestones on workforce and on how to 
operate safely these subs and the respect for the nuclear 
reactor that is within. I am happy to ask Administrator Hruby, 
who has been in these discussions, if she had anything further 
to add----
    Senator Kaine. That would be helpful, and just sort of as a 
preface, I had a meeting with the UK defense minister last week 
and he sort of said the same thing. But I know there has been 
some press suggesting that Rolls-Royce might build the reactors 
and build them in the UK.
    I know that we are sort of at the front end of working this 
all out, but it is very relevant to workforce issues in 
Virginia. Administrator Hruby, if you have anything to add on 
that, that would be great.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. One thing we know for sure is 
that the materials that we use for fuels in these reactors is a 
U.S. designed material specifically for the life of the boat, 
right? Which is a very big advantage that we have.
    I think as part of AUKUS, we opened the door to potential, 
over the long run, not over the short run, over the long run 
for other allied supplies of reactors, but not reactor 
materials.
    I would just say that what we do for reactors--the other 
one very important part of the AUKUS Agreement is that the 
Australians have agreed to keep the spent fuel and that will be 
an important element, but they need to step up as well.
    Senator Kaine. Well, just to paint the picture about the 
magnitude of the challenge, we are trying to get Virginia-class 
subs back to two a year.
    We are doing Columbia-class subs, we are doing carriers, 
and now it is likely for the foreseeable future that the 
reactors in AUKUS subs will be--the material be in the United 
States, other weapon systems will as well, all with workforce 
challenges.
    While the President's Budget increases the NNSA budget 
overall by 7.6 percent, there is actually a decrease of 5.6 
percent in the nuclear reactor space, so that may be something 
we need to talk about.
    Second issue I just wanted to raise with you, Secretary 
Granholm, and this isn't really in this Committee's bailiwick, 
but it is in yours, and I don't have another committee where I 
can ask you this. I am so excited about what DOE is doing 
around the Administration of the clean energy tax credits and 
the Inflation Reduction Act.
    I know it is sort of a new job for the DOE. The tax credit 
and other programs have come out of Commerce. They have come 
out of other agencies. But the additional 10 percent tax 
credit, for example, for manufacturing our clean energy 
production in energy communities, the set aside of $4 billion 
of the $10 billion tax credit for energy communities.
    I have been in two such communities in Virginia the last 2 
weeks. I was in Appalachia 2 weeks ago. They are so excited 
about the prospect of attracting manufacturing businesses that 
might qualify for the 30 percent tax credit, but then have the 
10 percent boost on top of it.
    I was in Danville, which recently--which has a wonderful 
mega-site recently, and they recently lost a prospect before 
the IRA passed. But because their site is in a census tract 
adjacent to where a coal plant was converted to gas, they are 
now an energy community.
    That additional 10 percent tax credit is inspiring interest 
that is really exciting to the community leaders. I know it is 
a lot to take on because it wasn't as if the DOE was sort of in 
the Administration of tax credits business in a huge way.
    But now with these tools, I can tell you that in my two 
regions of Virginia, that fit squarely in the kind of energy 
community space, there is a level of excitement about economic 
development prospects that I haven't seen since I got into 
politics in 1994. So, I just encourage you to keep the pedal to 
the metal on that.
    Secretary Granholm. Super excited to do so. As you know, 
the stackable nature of these credits make the United States 
the irresistible nation to invest in, and that is what the 
Invest in America agenda is all about.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. I think you 
understand that every submarine in the United States begins 
construction in Rhode Island.
    Senator Kaine. I am going to be in the doghouse with the 
Chair for a while.
    Chairman Reed. Senator Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks for 
being here today, both of you. Secretary, good to see you. You 
know, since you and I have been in our roles, I have been 
asking you about thorium and uranium 233. School year late, but 
I was happy to read your department report on thorium. Have you 
read it?
    Secretary Granholm. I am aware of it.
    Senator Tuberville. Okay, thank you. It is fairly long. 
Very thick here. Took me a while to get through it. Not being a 
rocket scientist, it took me a while to read all the words. In 
your opinion, after looking at, what is the two biggest hurdles 
to nuclear power in the minds of most Americans right now?
    Secretary Granholm. In the minds of most Americans, I think 
it is waste and the fear--the issue of safety.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. Thank you. Let's talk about 
nuclear waste for a second. The thorium report the DOE just 
submitted says that traditional light water reactors the kinds 
in operation across the U.S. aren't so efficient. A plant that 
burns 250 tons of uranium ends up with 35 tons of spent fuel. 
Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. But a thorium powered nuclear 
plant can produce the same amount of energy with one ton of 
thorium and end up with a fraction of that in waste that is 
harmless for 300 years or less. Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. I think--I believe so.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, and now let's talk about the 
larger worry, as you said, which is safety to the American 
people.
    I am going to quote from the DOE report here, ``liquid 
fluoride, MSR [molten salt reactor] thorium reactors may be 
designed to be meltdown resistant by using a plug at the bottom 
of the reactor that melts in the event of a power failure, or 
if temperatures exceed a set limit, draining the thorium fuel 
salt coolant mixture into an underground tank for safe, non-
critical geometry storage.''
    Basically, that means thorium power plant, it can't melt 
down like a normal uranium plant, and there are a whole host of 
other benefits. Right now, the United States is reliant on 
Russia for uranium. That is where we get it from. Moving to a 
thorium cycle would free us of that dependency. Correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Tuberville. Creating a thorium cycle could help the 
United States catch up to China when it comes to rare earths 
because thorium is a waste byproduct of mining rare earths, 
correct?
    That was an excellent part of the report. With so many 
advantages to thorium, Madam Secretary, my question to you is 
this, doesn't it make sense to preserve the Nation's stockpile 
of physical material, uranium 233, so that if the DOE can 
pursue a thorium strategy, we have that option? What do you 
think?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, the current stockpile that you 
are referring to at each canyon is very expensive. The facility 
that it is housed--of course, it is a proliferation concern, 
uranium 233 or uranium 229, that comes from. It is a 
proliferation concern.
    We spend $50 million a year, I think, in just housing that, 
and then the process for extracting is very, very expensive. 
So----
    Senator Tuberville. How much are we spending in destroying 
the uranium?
    Secretary Granholm. We are----
    Senator Tuberville. It is pretty expensive also.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, it is expensive, but the thought 
is that the Nation's nuclear reactors now have a different fuel 
cycle, right?
    There is hope that this Committee, as well as the entire 
Congress, will help with a uranium strategy that gives us a 
supply that is not reliant upon Russia. Meaning that we should 
have enrichment and conversion processing of uranium here in 
the United States so that we can do that.
    The thorium, we have some investments in thorium and doing 
some research on it. We just don't have any right now reactors 
that are up and running. We do have a molten--salt reactor, but 
it is a uranium reactor, a small one in Idaho, Idaho lab, which 
we can learn a lot from.
    We don't want to shut down any possibility. But I will say 
from a rapid movement point of view, because we feel like there 
is a sense of urgency, especially since so many of our allies 
are really interested in nuclear power as well, that we have a 
reliable process that has been up and running for over 50 
years, and we want the advanced reactors obviously coming 
online.
    We are doing some research in it, but given the current 
infrastructure that we have, we think it is best use to be able 
to get a fuel cycle that is consonant with the existing fleet.
    Senator Tuberville. It looks like to me it would be a small 
investment of $50 million when we are talking more times, in 
billions and trillions, $50 million to save our uranium--or 
thorium, over the years.
    Secretary Granholm. Well, I will say that the rough order 
of magnitude cost for the uranium recovery and production of 
HALEU [high-assay low-enriched uranium] from that is about 680 
million to 1.3 billion for one metric ton. That is a lot.
    Senator Tuberville. Over how many years though?
    Secretary Granholm. That is for one metric ton.
    Senator Tuberville. For one ton, yes. We already have the 
thorium though. Now, the thing that I am concerned about is 
China is building thorium reactors, and they are building them 
not just in China, but also in the Belt and Road Initiative.
    They are doing something right. It is cleaner, it is safer, 
and it gives us an opportunity for us to at least look into it. 
Because if we are going to do away with coal and fossil fuels, 
there is no doubt that the answer to the problem we have right 
now is nuclear.
    If we are going to do nuclear safety and the option of 
being able to store the waste, a lot less waste over the many, 
many years would be much better for what we are doing other 
than uranium reactors as we speak. Hopefully we will continue 
to talk about that over the years and make some progress. Thank 
you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. First, I would like 
to ask unanimous consent that a congressional Research Service 
report called the Nuclear Triad NC3 [nuclear command control 
and communications] Modernization by Alex Neenan be included in 
the record.
    I want to recognize Ms. Neenan and her team for conducting 
a cross-cut analysis of the funding and contracts associated 
with a major nuclear delivery systems, including NC3. This has 
been a hugely helpful report to myself and Senator Fischer on 
the Strategic Forces Subcommittee.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection, so ordered.
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    Senator King. Thank you. First, Mr. Chairman, I think it is 
important to talk about a little bit of the context of what is 
going on here.
    We are trying to do a very difficult and expensive thing at 
once, which is to entirely modernize the nuclear triad and 
NC3--and by the way, I consider it a quad because I think NC3 
is an essential part of the triad, and rebuild the 
infrastructure of the entire nuclear enterprise, all at once.
    I call it the pig in the python of the budget. It is a 
major expenditure that probably should have been done over the 
past 40 years in increments, but we are doing it all at once. I 
think that is a problem that we need to understand here in the 
context of the budget. Ms. Granholm, did I articulate it 
accurately--Administrator?
    Secretary Granholm. You do.
    Senator King. Well, I think that is something that we 
really need to think about. I want to talk a minute about the 
cloud, and by the way, the first person to download data from 
the cloud onto a tablet was Moses.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator King. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Everybody is moving 
to the cloud. Private enterprise and Government entities, 
intelligence agencies, Defense Department, everybody is moving 
to the cloud.
    The advantage, obviously, is a large repository which we 
can adequately protect. The disadvantage is there is so much 
data there that if somebody can get in it, they have really hit 
the jackpot.
    Madam Secretary, I hope that as we are working in this 
direction, that due consideration is given to the cyber risks 
of cloud storage of data.
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely. It is one of the top 
priorities of our office of cyber, CESER [Office of 
Cybersecurity, Energy Security and Emergency Response].
    Senator King. CESER----
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. To be able to make sure the cloud, 
as well as the hard infrastructure associated with our energy 
grid, et cetera, are protected.
    Senator King. Well, I am not sure who actually has the 
specific responsibility, but I hope that you will have CESER 
pay special attention to this because it--I see it as a--as I 
say, the cloud is definitely more secure, only if it is 
adequately protected, and if it isn't, then it could be a 
catastrophe.
    Secretary Granholm. Agree 100 percent.
    Senator King. Workforce. Senator Shaheen asked you about 
workforce. I understand in the budget that there is--there are 
raises for the nuclear enterprise workforce. Administrator 
Hruby, is that important?
    I mean, if--all jobs are important, but the work that you 
are doing is critical to national security and we have just got 
to have the right people.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes. Thank you, Senator King. It is 
extremely important in the nuclear security enterprise to have 
the best workforce, and we have to compete with the tech 
industry and the private sector.
    Senator King. Are you doing it? Are you getting people?
    Administrator Hruby. We are. We had a couple of tough years 
but at the moment we have turned the--we seem to have turned 
the corner on that.
    We took some aggressive actions. We actually authorized the 
mid-year salary adjustment at our labs, plants, and sites that 
was targeted toward the places where we were seeing the highest 
attrition.
    Senator King. Well, cutting attrition is as good as 
recruiting. Every person that doesn't----
    Administrator Hruby. Absolutely----
    Senator King.--you don't have to fill, and you, I gather 
you have significantly cut your attrition rate.
    Administrator Hruby. We have. At this point, and we are 
going to watch it closely, but at this point, our attrition has 
returned to close to normal levels at our labs, plants, and 
sites, which is around 3 percent.
    I will say that we are still experiencing a high attrition 
in our Federal workforce. Actually, the highest attrition in 
over a decade is around 12 percent. We now need to really focus 
on what we can do about that. The mission, our mission helps a 
lot. So, we will pay what the private sector pays and sort of 
the full package, but this mission is important and people 
recognize it.]
    Senator King. Well, I think the mission is important, and 
for that reason, you can hold people to some extent, but you 
also have to be sure that we fill those critical positions.
    I understand that Senator Fischer talked about budget and 
pit production, so I am not going to replough all that ground. 
But I think clearly this Committee is very concerned about 
meeting that 80 pits per year schedule.
    You have to come to us and tell us how we can help, how we 
can--whether it is Defense Production Act or what are the 
elements that are needed in order to meet that critical need.
    Because as the Chairman indicated at the beginning of the 
hearing, we are facing an entirely new strategic situation with 
two highly nuclear-armed potential rivals. So let us know how 
we can help you to meet those--that schedule.
    Administrator Hruby. Thank you. We really appreciate your 
full support on this, and the things that you have done to date 
have been very useful, including funding our pipeline programs. 
A lot of this is about people, and we have to increase the 
number of people who can do these jobs in the United States.
    We can't do that overnight, but the funding of our trade 
and crafts programs, our university programs, along with pay, 
transportation, and housing incentives for craft workers, all 
of those things are helping us and pre-buying equipment, so we 
appreciate your support and we will continue to look for ways 
that we can accelerate.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thanks to both of you. Thanks for 
your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. First, thanks, both of 
you for being here. Secretary Granholm, last year in this 
Committee, you made a commitment that the Biden administration 
would not import oil from the horrible regimes in Iran and 
Venezuela. Can you make that same commitment today?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We don't take in oil from 
sanctioned countries.
    Senator Scott. Good. I have been disappointed with the way 
the Biden administration has deployed appeasement tactics with 
some of these dangerous regimes.
    Some of us have been concerned, and I have been very 
concerned about--but that is going to go beyond these 
appeasement tactics with what they have tried to with Iran and 
Cuba and Venezuela and Nicaragua, places like that, and I am 
glad that you made the commitment.
    Nuclear power is a two-sided coin. There is a lot of 
potential for good, but it can be in the wrong hands. It can be 
catastrophic, as we all know. We have got enemies like Russia 
and China that have already seen the potential in nuclear 
recycling.
    Last year, Russia fueled a reactor with a 100 percent 
recycled plutonium, and China is about to start a reactor with 
similar capabilities. Americans seem like we are absent from 
the cutting edge on these technologies, which will seriously 
hamper our ability to have a seat at the table to negotiate.
    It looks like our enemies are ahead of the game on this. 
What are we doing right now to deal with and what are you doing 
to deal with recycling?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, thank you for asking this. It is 
obviously, historically, this has been a proliferation, 
nonproliferation question. But I think there is an awakening 
sense that if not just the countries that you identified, but 
France can do recycling of spent nuclear fuel, then the United 
States should be doing that as well--at least looking at it, 
which is what is happening now at the Idaho National Lab.
    They have a program now and several experiments that they 
are working on to be able to prove its efficacy, and one of the 
big challenges has been that it has been very expensive to 
recycle nuclear fuel. However, it is obviously very expensive 
to store nuclear waste as well. So, I agree that we should be 
pursuing this as an efficiency strategy as well.
    Senator Scott. Do we have the same capabilities as Russia 
and China?
    Secretary Granholm. Not right now. We do not.
    Senator Scott. Okay, and what are you doing with the 
private sector? Historically in this country the private sector 
has come up with the innovation rather than Government. What 
are you doing with the private sector, and are there companies 
that you are working with out there that you could help 
accelerate, you know, to hopefully where we got an advantage?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, I mean, as I mentioned that at 
Idaho, which is of course where we have a great expertise in 
nuclear and advanced nuclear reactors, they are working with a 
couple of companies that are doing this and that are taking it 
to the next level. So excited to see the results from that, but 
I feel that is a promising point of acceleration too.
    Senator Scott. Do you need more private sector companies to 
show up? Is there something you would expect, you would ask in 
the private sector to do now that would help accelerate this?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, we would like to see this done in 
the confines of a space that can handle nuclear and fissile 
material. Many of our labs, our user facilities, and in this 
case, Idaho National Lab is as well. We encourage folks to seek 
out that opportunity and to be able to make use of the facility 
as well.
    Senator Scott. What is the Department of Energy doing with 
the Department of Defense to make sure we have military 
capabilities in this area? Is it the same thing--is it the same 
area?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, I mean, obviously, Idaho works 
with the Department of Defense as well. You are talking about 
from weapons?
    Senator Scott. Right.
    Secretary Granholm. Right, so most in the defense side, and 
Administrative Hruby can speak to this as well, most of the 
storage--it is being stored and not recycled. We were just 
having this conversation with Senator Tuberville for 
different--obviously for thorium reactor.
    It is expensive to store it there as well. But we are 
trying to treat the material and ensure--and there is some 
nascent research that is happening on repurposing. I don't know 
if you want to add anything to that.
    Administrator Hruby. Let me just say, on the nuclear 
weapons side, these materials last a long time and we don't use 
them, right? I mean, so we can recycle our nuclear materials 
and we do. We reuse our plutonium, our uranium, and most of our 
nuclear materials.
    When we talk about making pits, we are purifying and 
reusing the plutonium that we have used in previous weapons.
    Senator Scott. Thank you. Thank you, Chairman.
    Senator King. On behalf of the Chairman, Senator Warren.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It is good to see 
you, Secretary Granholm. Now, as you know, Bitcoin mining 
involves companies using powerful computers to verify 
transactions to win a Bitcoin reward.
    You may remember that at the same hearing a year ago, I 
asked you about the immense energy consumption of Bitcoin 
mining. Since then, the issue has aroused more public concern. 
A recent New York Times investigation found that just 34 
Bitcoin mines in the U.S. are using as much electricity as 3 
million households.
    That is the equivalent of the entire State of Arizona or 
the entire State of Tennessee. That is a lot of energy and most 
of it is dirty. Fully 85 percent of this power comes from coal 
or natural gas plants. That causes as much carbon pollution as 
3.5 million gasoline powered cars.
    For every one new electric vehicles sold in the U.S. last 
year, these Bitcoin miners did the climate equivalent of 
putting four additional gasoline powered cars right back on the 
road. Now, I should note that my own investigation shows there 
are more mines than just the 34 that The New York Times 
analyzed.
    The problem is even worse than reported. Secretary 
Granholm, when you came before this Committee last year, I 
asked you if the Federal Government knew how many crypto miners 
were operating in the United States and how much energy they 
are consuming, and you said that wasn't being tracked and that 
more data would be needed. So here we are a year later. Is the 
Department of Energy formally tracking crypto miners yet?
    Secretary Granholm. Great. First of all, thank you so much 
for your leadership in this, because I do think that you have 
unearthed a massive problem. We don't know how many miners 
there are. We don't know where they are. We--all of them. I 
mean, some of them you do, but some of them--many of them you 
don't.
    A lot of them are just underground. Some of them are small 
operators. As you and I have discussed, we have charged our 
Energy Information Administration with figuring out how to 
mandate a reporting of these entities.
    Now, that is complicated, as you know, because they are--
many of them are underground, and even the utilities may not 
know right where the draw is coming from.
    Senator Warren. So, let's talk about that. Given that 
crypto mining undermines all of our other climate work, we 
can't afford to delay on this. There is a lot of urgency around 
this. I want to talk for just a second about the authority you 
have to gather information on this.
    Let me ask, Secretary Granholm, do you have the authority 
to mandate that crypto miners disclose information about their 
energy consumption?
    Secretary Granholm. We have the mandate authority.
    Senator Warren. Good. In your response to a letter, I sent 
you in February, you indicated that the Energy Information 
Administration will first need to develop a new survey program 
to begin collecting information from crypto miners.
    By when do you expect to field this survey and use it to 
gather data from crypto miners on a mandatory basis?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, we are--we, first of all, are 
looking at creating the survey from a regular report that is an 
electricity gathering report that we have now asked to include 
crypto as part of it. That report from NREL [National Renewable 
Energy Laboratory] will be completed by the end of this year on 
which the Energy Information Administration can base its 
survey.
    It is going to take some time for them to be able to craft 
the survey from the information that they receive from the NREL 
report, but know that that is happening and we are pushing to 
accelerate the timeline----
    Senator Warren. Okay, so by the end of this year, you will 
have a report on mandatory reporting?
    Secretary Granholm. We will have----
    Senator Warren. I want to make sure I know what we are 
getting.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, no, no, we will have a report that 
will have gathered not fully but enough information to be able 
to craft the framework for the survey. We won't be able to get 
the survey out, the mandatory survey by the end of this year, 
but we will have the report done and the survey will be 
constructed from that.
    Senator Warren. Okay, and we are certain we are going to 
get that mandatory survey out then sometime in 2024?
    Secretary Granholm. I hope so, but I don't want to----
    Senator Warren. It is tick tock----
    Secretary Granholm. I know.
    Senator Warren. Okay. I mean, look, we are running out of 
time here. Crypto mining's energy use truly undermines our 
efforts to fight climate change and we are out of time. We need 
to understand the full scope of the problem, and that starts 
with the authorities you have.
    I hope that the next time we come back, you will tell me 
that you now have that survey in place and we are getting 
mandatory reporting from the crypto mining companies.
    Secretary Granholm. I hope so too.
    Senator Warren. Going to hold you to it. Thank you.
    Senator King. On behalf of the Chairman, Senator Budd.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Chairman, and again, thank the 
witnesses both for being here today. The NNSA's work is a no 
fail mission and that is why it is vital to secure supply 
chains and eliminate single points of failure throughout the 
nuclear security enterprise.
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, I would like to 
ask you about the importance of lithium in the nuclear 
modernization process. Over the last 3 decades, the United 
States lost its capacity to produce lithium, where it accounted 
for over one-third of global production as recently as 1995.
    Now, the United States represents less than 1 percent of 
production, and China and Russia are dominating the race to 
secure supplies of lithium worldwide. I understand that the 
NNSA is currently obtaining the lithium it needs for nuclear 
weapons modernization by recycling material from dismantled 
warheads. I see you are nodding your head.
    But that is insufficient long term. So, what is the 
Department and the NNSA doing to guarantee assured access to 
lithium for all of our needs? Secretary Hruby, we will start 
with you--Administrator Hruby.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, thank you. At the--our analysis, 
does not indicate that we are going to run out of lithium in 
the timeframes that we have looked at. I will go back and I 
will take this question back to see if there is a date that we 
are concerned about.
    But the recycling program, given that we recycle our 
lithium for our weapons, and our newer weapons are not using 
more lithium, I think we are in good shape on this, but I 
promise to confirm that.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. If you would, please. Secretary.
    Secretary Granholm. Yes. We were concerned about supply of 
lithium for a variety of reasons, but obviously, defense being 
one of them. More urgent is making sure that we have enough 
lithium for batteries for electrification purposes, and 
therefore, the efforts that the loan programs office is making. 
For example, to provide conditional commitments for mining of 
lithium is one of the strategies, the commitments that are 
being made around the country for the full supply chain of 
batteries, including extraction and processing of lithium.
    Very exciting to see how many companies are raising their 
hands, saying that they are interested in this, and then we 
have also given a conditional commitment to companies that are 
recycling batteries, not just from vehicles, but from phones, 
et cetera, to be able to reprocess more, even a purified 
lithium. So, on all of these vectors, we want to increase our 
domestic supply.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Madam Secretary. What are some of 
the impediments if you want to do more extraction, and I 
appreciate your efforts there, what are some of the impediments 
to sourcing it from U.S. suppliers?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, clearly permitting has been a 
challenge and we are all hopeful that there will be some 
bipartisan movement on that. We believe strongly that you can 
sustainably mine for critical minerals in the United States and 
permitting reform might be required.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. So, what other critical materials 
or parts do we need assured access to that we don't currently 
have? Either one of you.
    Administrator Hruby. On the top of our list in NNSA is to 
begin uranium enrichment in the United States again, and in 
particular unencumber all U.S. technology and uranium 
enrichment. This is a need that we will have for defense 
purposes.
    To make tritium, we need LEU [low enriched uranium], and 
for naval reactors, we need new highly enriched uranium, and 
so, we have been planning that program in concert with the 
needs in the civil nuclear sector and the U.S. for enriched 
uranium.
    That is--at the moment, that is our highest priority.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. One area Congress and the 
Department have made critical investments in is the workforce, 
especially authorities and resources to ramp up recruiting. But 
we are still at risk of losing nuclear know how with the aging 
and retirement of some of our best and brightest, talented 
scientists.
    Administrator Hruby, what is the NNSA doing on knowledge 
management to ensure that we don't lose that know-how? I would 
also ask, when I am talking to younger people in North 
Carolina, what careers or associate a career should I encourage 
them to go into?
    Secretary Granholm. Great questions, thank you. We do have 
a knowledge management program that includes oral interviews, 
that also includes mentorships. We have made sure that we have 
programs that allow our retirees to come back and mentor new 
workforce in the complex, and that is happening around the 
complex every day.
    We hope that we have--we do need knowledge management. We 
have a very new workforce. The average age in our--the average 
experience time in our workforce is about 9 years, and for 
those businesses, that is still quite new.
    I think, in terms of encouraging people. Frankly, any STEM 
field is great, including craft workers. But we really need 
more electrical engineers in the United States, and but like I 
said, in any STEM field, our doors are open.
    Senator Budd. Thank you both. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd. Senator Rosen, 
please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed, for holding 
this really important hearing. I would like to thank both of 
you for testifying today, for your service to the country. 
Thank you, Secretary, for meeting with me the other day. It was 
a really productive conversation.
    Before I ask my questions, I do want to start off again by 
offering my condolences to the families of the U1a miners that 
were just recently killed in an accident at the Nevada National 
Security site, and to our entire NNSS community. It is really 
tough. I want to build on what Senator Budd was talking about, 
education, education and workforce. It is really important.
    We understand that in Nevada, because last month, my Nevada 
delegation colleagues and I, we wrote to you to support the 
College of Southern Nevada's application for the National 
Nuclear Security Administration's minority serving institution 
partnership, specifically for the community and junior college 
trade occupational programs.
    We need miners down there, too. That is--you know, they are 
going way underground, lots of really great jobs. We are 
enthusiastic about the proposed Nevada National Security Site 
Fast Start Program and its potential for recruiting, educating, 
training those entry level workers, mentoring them, like you 
said.
    We want them to begin careers in the nuclear security 
enterprise, and specifically in all the great jobs we have in 
Nevada. I know the Fast Start program will support the NNSS as 
it identifies its ongoing need to recruit those highly skilled 
employees who we were just speaking about, from diverse 
backgrounds, who have really good technical skills, and we need 
them to work on our national security programs, our 
construction, our maintenance, our business operations, 
science, engineering, technology, all of it.
    I guess that Secretary Granholm, I will ask you the first 
question, and followup with you, Administrator Hruby, is, the 
Department has done for other states hosting a DOE facility to 
ensure local students receive the necessary education and 
training to find a job supporting the nuclear security 
enterprise.
    Can you commit to working with me and the Nevada delegation 
to establish these pathways to invest in our local talent 
because we know they stay?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, Senator, I think it is really 
important to develop place-based strategies for our workforce 
as--especially as all of these projects are coming on board and 
there isn't a ready workforce to take them on, to be able to 
have the pipeline is so important. So, yes.
    Senator Rosen. Yes, this is where their support systems 
are. So, you train them there, where they grow up, where their 
families are, they stay. So, Administrator Hruby, can I get the 
same commitment from you?
    Administrator Hruby. Absolutely, and I just also--yes, 
thanks for your keen interest in the workforce all the time. We 
really appreciate it. I just also want to say explicitly this 
tragic accident is very hard for our enterprise, and so I 
appreciate your acknowledgment of that.
    We, in the 2024 budget request, the NNSA has a new line-
item request for community programs. In addition to our regular 
education programs, MSIPP [minority serving institution 
partnership program] and others that you have mentioned, we are 
increasing our attention to the local communities that host our 
labs, plants, and sites.
    Senator Rosen. Well, that is great because that really 
answered my next question. Would you consider expanding the MSI 
program all around our State so we can get talent from 
everywhere? So, I have a minute left.
    Since you have already answered that, I am going to talk a 
little bit about our wonderful remote sensing lab that we have 
in Nevada, because we need to prevent a nuclear disaster in 
Ukraine. The remote sensing lab is at Nellis Air Force Base and 
Joint Base Andrews here provides that radiological emergency 
response teams that are ready to deploy anywhere in the world.
    These personnel and those of the Nevada National Security 
Site, they are our Nation's experts in dirty bombs, loose 
nukes, sources of radiation, and determining the origin. I have 
had a lot of interesting discussions, as well as my team, about 
the radiological sensors at the remote sensing lab, things they 
have provided to Ukraine as Russia seized control of several, 
we know, several Ukrainian nuclear power plants as part of its 
unprovoked invasion.
    They are going to continue to threaten us, and of course, 
we know a nuclear disaster can threaten so many. Administrator 
Hruby, can you talk about the interagency multinational effort 
that is going to prevent any nuclear, I guess, disaster, event, 
however you want to call it, from happening in Ukraine, that 
will spread, of course, around to everyone?
    Administrator Hruby. Yes, thank you. I hope we can prevent. 
We can certainly discourage. But what we are really aimed at is 
making sure we understand and respond to events so that the 
Ukrainians, along with all the support that we and our allies 
will supply, can limit the damage due to any event, and 
understand it, and we can attribute it.
    You are absolutely right, the people in Nevada, in fact, 
last time I was there at that laboratory, they were packaging 
sensors at that moment to send to Ukraine. Those sensors have 
been sent.
    They are installed. They continue to help us train the 
Ukrainians and supply additional materials to make sure that we 
are in the best position possible in the unfortunate event that 
anything nuclear happens in Ukraine.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I am going to give them a 
great plug because they are everywhere in the community 
promoting STEM education, going to schools, going to high 
schools. They are a great asset. The workers at the--we still 
call it the test site--at the remote sensing lab, they are 
everywhere. We are very proud of them. Thank you. Thank you, 
Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Mullin, 
please.
    Senator Mullin. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Secretary, 
in 2018, one of your predecessors implemented a policy to 
restrict China's access to United States civil nuclear 
technologies based on several cases of China illegally 
diverting these technologies for military purposes. Can you 
tell me that this policy is still in place?
    Secretary Granholm. I believe it is.
    Senator Mullin. Is there a way to know for sure that policy 
is----
    Secretary Granholm. I will get back to you----
    Senator Mullin. Would you do that?
    Secretary Granholm.--can follow the thread, yes.
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    Secretary Granholm. United States civil nuclear technology 
exports (aka ``transfers'') to China are governed by the United 
States Department of Energy's export control regulations at 10 
CFR Part 810 (Part 810), Assistance to Foreign Atomic Energy 
Activities. All such transfers require the Secretary of 
Energy's explicit (aka ``specific'') authorization to proceed. 
The Secretary's authority is rooted in Section 57 b.(2) of the 
Atomic Energy Act of 1954, as amended, and implemented by Part 
810.
    Such transfers are further restricted by the 2018 whole-of-
U.S. Government export licensing policy, ``U.S. Policy 
Framework on Civil Nuclear Cooperation with China'' (aka ``the 
Framework''). This policy framework restricts exports of 
nuclear technology to China based on the nature of the 
technology and the end-user. Specifically, the Framework 
outlines presumptions of denial and approval for such 
transfers. Approvals are, in part, contingent on non-derogatory 
end-user checks performed by the U.S. Intelligence Community.
    Additionally, the U.S. Department of State (DOS) seeks 
government-to-government peaceful use assurances from the 
People's Republic of China as a condition of DOS' legally 
required concurrence on Part 810 transfers. Any known or 
suspected diversions of such technology to non-peaceful end-
uses would not be authorized by the Secretary of Energy, 
regardless of destination.

    Senator Mullin. Thank you. Is the United States still 
involved in civil nuclear cooperation with China? If so, what 
is the nature of that involvement?
    Administrator Hruby. Let me address this question. We have 
definitely been involved with China in design--helping them 
design systems to secure their civil nuclear power--safeguard 
and secure their civil nuclear power plants. That involvement 
is either very small or nonexistent right now. But this is a 
pause, I mean----
    Senator Mullin. I guess--sorry--I guess I am kind of 
concerned here because we should know for sure if we are still 
helping them. Obviously, China is a huge threat. They are--I 
would consider them an adversary at this point.
    We are talking about a nuclear program that they have 
stolen technology, they have taken intellectual property. They 
are transferring stuff that was supposed to be used for civil 
and use it for military.
    I just want to know, are we still involved in this? It is 
no slight to anybody, ma'am. It is no slight to either one of 
you. I am just--we are--this is important for us to know. I am 
a little bit concerned that we don't know this for a fact, if 
we are still assisting or not.
    Administrator Hruby. The effort that we had involved with 
the establishment of the China Center of Excellence is 
complete. What I don't know is if there is any small ongoing 
support for that effort. But let me just say this.
    What we have done with China is associated with making sure 
that they understand the technology available that needs to be 
put in nuclear power plants for safeguarding material and for 
securing the plant.
    This is not associated with helping them develop the power 
plant technology, but it is in the best interest, the global 
interest to have those power plants be well safeguarded and 
secure, that is technology that we are willing to share and 
help them with.
    Senator Mullin. I just take a different approach. I mean, 
if they were friendly nation to us and not threatening our 
friends and allies, if they were a country to which we could 
trust, that hasn't been known to steal intellectual property 
from businesses, I would say yes.
    I would agree with that. But they are not and they haven't 
behaved in such a manner, and for us to be spending one single 
taxpayer dollars to assist them in this in any way. I am sure, 
Madam Secretary, I am sure you are aware about Russia selling 
China seven times more highly enriched uranium in the last 4 
months of 2022 than the United States and the International 
Atomic Energy Agency has eliminated worldwide in the past 30 
years. I am sure you are aware of that, right.
    Administrator Hruby. Yes.
    Senator Mullin. Do you know what additional steps we can 
take to stem the flow of this material?
    Administrator Hruby. Well, clearly, we are very concerned 
about the purposes for that purchase.
    Senator Mullin. I think we know what the purpose--or the 
purpose of the purchases are the materials for.
    Secretary Granholm. Clearly, China is developing its--and 
continuing to ramp up its own nuclear arsenal on the defense 
side. The issues really are relative to how you stop that. You 
have to get in--you have to get into agreements with countries 
that are developing nuclear weapons so that when Russia exits 
the New START agreement, for example, it is dangerous for the 
whole world.
    We need to pressure countries to report, to allow 
inspections, so that we know where the lay of the land is, and 
we don't have that with China. We don't have that with Russia 
anymore, and that is very dangerous. It is a dangerous 
situation.
    Senator Mullin. I agree. But that goes back to my original 
question is, why are we still assisting them in any fashion?
    Secretary Granholm. But the assistance is for making sure 
there is nonproliferation and that it is safe. I mean, if I 
don't--you know, as she says, she doesn't know if that is still 
happening now. We want to make sure that it is--that they 
have--we want this technology to be safe, to be universally 
available. We want countries to adopt it.
    Senator Mullin. I agree. But we do that with friendly 
nations, not adversaries----
    Secretary Granholm. Well--I think it is more important to 
do it with adversaries.
    Senator Mullin. If it is an adversary we can trust.
    Secretary Granholm. Well, I think that any country that 
doesn't want its own citizens to be jeopardized by exposure to 
radiological material, we want to be able to share that no 
matter where they are. Because it is not proprietary technology 
that we are afraid of being stolen and somehow monetized. We 
want that technology to be used everywhere.
    Senator Mullin. Right. I yield back. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Mullin. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Madam Secretary, 
I have a few questions. Earlier this year at a music festival 
in Austin, you noted that climate change is an existential 
threat. Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay, and by existential threat, you mean 
it threatens the very existence of humanity right now. Is that 
your belief?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, right now, I would say no. We 
know that we have a goal to get to net zero carbon emissions by 
2050. But we also know that every single year we see escalating 
weather events that are existential threats to communities 
around the globe, including in the United States.
    Senator Schmitt. What is the timeline?
    Secretary Granholm. Well, we want to reduce. We want to 
make sure that we do not see more than one and a half degrees 
of increase because the rising sea levels, the impacts on the 
ecosystems around the world.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. So even if you accept the premise 
that human beings can sort of control the weather here long 
term, right, that there aren't larger forces, that the earth is 
either cooling or it is warming, and that has happened since 
the existence of our planet, that has happened.
    You have this net zero goal by 2050, you would agree, 
though, that if China and India are not on board, it is a 
fool's errand, correct?
    Secretary Granholm. We want China and India----
    Senator Schmitt. No, but they are not.
    Secretary Granholm. Well, they are moving in that 
direction. I mean, China----
    Senator Schmitt. Well, actually, and this is leads to the 
second question, you have said that there is a lot to learn 
from what China is doing. China accounts for a full 25 percent 
of the world's emissions, correct?
    Secretary Granholm. Correct, and we want them to stop that.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. But they are not--they are not 
stopping that. India is not stopping that.
    I think the concern that I have and the folks back home 
have is that the United States of America, which has all the 
natural resources it will ever need, okay, is tying one arm 
behind our back for reliable energy, while China, the world's 
biggest polluter, you give a free pass to and you praise to at 
the same music festival saying we have got a lot to learn from 
China.
    When the reality is, if China is not on board with your 
plan, even if you agreed with that being the goal. It is not 
going to make a difference at all.
    So, all we are left with is higher costs here at home, and 
we are less secure at home because we are relying on other 
countries for energy, like Venezuela, like Saudi Arabia. I want 
to ask you, since Biden, Joe Biden has taken office, he has 
drawn down 40 percent of that Strategic Petroleum Reserve, 
correct?
    Secretary Granholm. It is. It has been drawn down by about 
180 million barrels.
    Senator Schmitt. I think that is 40 percent. But we haven't 
had sort of an emergency that would cause it, other than I 
think he wanted to probably try to get gas prices lower.
    Secretary Granholm. The war on Ukraine is the emergency 
that caused it.
    Senator Schmitt. That is why we shipped those petroleum 
reserves to China, because of the war in Ukraine? I am sorry--
--
    Secretary Granholm. No. We released 1 million barrels per 
day for 6 months to stabilize the global production----
    Senator Schmitt. But we shipped those to China.
    Secretary Granholm. No, we----
    Senator Schmitt. China was the highest bidder and those--
the strategic petroleum went to China.
    Secretary Granholm. The Strategic Petroleum Reserves are 
released on a global market----
    Senator Schmitt. So, Ukraine, Ukraine is the reason then 
why we drew down by 40 percent our strategic petroleum reserves 
and sent them to China.
    Secretary Granholm. Russia's invasion of Ukraine pulled 
barrels, millions of barrels of oil off the market, causing a 
constriction in supply----
    Senator Schmitt. Madam Secretary, I am sorry. I would argue 
that this President and this Administration's war on American 
energy started well before Ukraine. It started well before a 
year ago and you are right in the middle of that, telling 
people that they have to live with less----
    Secretary Granholm. We are not telling people that they----
    Senator Schmitt. Absolutely you are.
    Secretary Granholm. No, we want energy to be abundant. We 
want it to be made in the United States. We want----
    Senator Schmitt. If you really believed in an all of the 
above approach, if you--I would believe you, but you don't. 
That has certainly not been the direction of this 
Administration and your agency. It just hasn't.
    I do want to ask you, so we talked about China. I want to 
ask you about Microvast, which is a lithium battery company 
that operates primarily out of the People's Republic of China. 
Your agency granted $200 million worth of grant to this 
company. You are aware of this, correct?
    Secretary Granholm. There were awards that were--there were 
selections that were named, and all of those country--companies 
are going through vetting process to ensure that there are 
not--there is no money flowing to countries of concern, and so 
that--those vetting process are going on. Not a dollar has gone 
out the door yet.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. I think you have gotten--you got a 
letter from a Member of the Senate asking what those security 
protocols are and what the tests--you could see how concerning 
it would be that Chinese owned businesses or companies----
    Secretary Granholm. We don't want to see the dollars going 
to any countries of concern. We want them to be----
    Senator Schmitt. So, is it your commitment that no dollars 
will go to any company, any energy company taking advantage of 
either tax credits or grants that are owned by China, by a 
Chinese company?
    Secretary Granholm. No state-owned enterprise will get 
funding from the bipartisan infra----
    Senator Schmitt. What about companies that have material 
operations in China, which we know, of course, that 
intellectual property----
    Secretary Granholm. That is why we are using this CFIUS 
[Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States] vetting 
program to be able to identify exactly where the control is of 
a particular technology and country. We want to make sure----
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Well, I look forward to working with 
you.
    Secretary Granholm.--that we are the beneficiaries of those 
acts and not others.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Schmitt. 
Senator Cotton, please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you. Thank you both for your 
appearance. Secretary Granholm, Norway is one of our oldest and 
best partners. They have a very strong military and defense 
industry.
    A company known as Nammo, a Norwegian ammunition company, 
is vital for the security of Europe. They produce a lot of 
munitions, for instance, that are being used in Ukraine. They 
currently face constraints that prevent them from expanding. 
Are you aware of this situation?
    Secretary Granholm. I am not.
    Senator Cotton. This is not an urban legend. It is not some 
myth on social media. This comes directly from their CEO [Chief 
Executive Officer]. In central Norway, Nammo cannot expand its 
production to meet the demands in Ukraine because there is not 
enough electricity on Norway's grid.
    The reason there is not enough electricity on that portion 
of Norway's grid is it is all being used by nearby data servers 
for TikTok. As he said, we are not able to supply troops in 
Ukraine because of cat videos. I am even more concerned that, 
and the CEO of Nammo suggested this is a concern of his as 
well, that TikTok may have intentionally sited their data 
servers near critical defense factories in Norway.
    This raises concern for me about whether this is happening 
in the United States. My staff recently inquired with your 
office for some information about the potential for this risk. 
They were told that our inquiries needed to be on official 
letterhead and signed by me.
    Is it the policy of your office that you only respond to 
Senators and Congressmen when the request run official 
letterhead and signed by the Senator?
    Secretary Granholm. No, no.
    Senator Cotton. Okay, thank you. I hope now and, in the 
future, whenever our staff sends what are not hostile questions 
simply by an email, we can get more prompt responses. Now, are 
you aware of any risk in the United States through our defense 
industry because of the siting of large data servers, whether 
owned by TikTok or other companies, near defense industrial 
factories?
    Secretary Granholm. I am concerned about making sure that 
we have enough electricity to be able to fund not just defense 
entities, but regular households as well.
    Whether it is this, which I am eager to look into, or 
Bitcoin mining, which also is a huge energy suck, I want to 
know what can be--first of all, how we can add additional 
energy to the grid, but also how do we provide incentives for 
efficiency of those enterprises as well.
    I am concerned about the overuse of energy for players in 
America when we don't have the infrastructure necessary to be 
able to withstand----
    Senator Cotton. I am very worried about that as well. I am 
going to come to you in a moment, but can I get your commitment 
that your department will look at this specific issue----
    Secretary Granholm.
    Senator Cotton.--about----
    Secretary Granholm. Absolutely.
    Senator Cotton.--and it may be done in cooperation with the 
Department of Defense----
    Secretary Granholm. Sure.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Secretary Granholm. The Department of Energy's Office of 
Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response (CESER) 
works with energy industry owners and operators to identify and 
assess potential risks to the reliable operation of domestic 
energy infrastructure assets and systems.
    The growth of electricity demand from data centers is an 
issue that the Department continues to track, but at the 
current time, the growth in data center loads has been 
identified and addressed by electric industry planners and 
system operators through short-term operational guidance and 
long-term planning forecasts. The Federal Energy Regulatory 
Commission oversees compliance with electric reliability 
standards issued by the Electric Reliability Organization that 
govern operational and planning requirements for entities at 
operating under Federal jurisdiction. For systems not subject 
to Federal electric reliability oversight, the Department works 
closely with State regulatory bodies to provide information and 
technical assistance to assess potential impacts to systems.
    Additionally, the Department, through CESER, maintains, 
regular and frequent engagement with colleagues across the 
Department of Defense (DOD) to provide technical assistance or 
subject matter expertise on issues that could occur from cyber, 
physical, or climate risk to energy infrastructure assets and 
systems.

    Senator Cotton.--that we are not constrained in our defense 
industrial base at a time it needs to expand because of the 
location of large data servers, especially large data servers 
owned by foreign companies like TikTok.
    Now to the broader point, it would be an issue at least as 
big an issue if there was sufficient electricity on the grid to 
meet all of our needs, not just now, but as our Nation grows in 
the future.
    I am very worried that at a time when the Administration is 
taking action after action to take off reliable baseload power 
from coal and natural gas and nuclear power, it is also vastly 
expanding the demand for electricity, trying to replace the 
vast majority of cars, for instance, with so-called electric 
vehicles, which really should be called coal powered vehicles, 
because the electricity has to come from somewhere. Considering 
things like banning use of gas appliances.
    This at a time when your department has stated today, it 
has for some time now, that you can't meet, for example, the 
congressionally mandated requirement of 80 new plutonium pits a 
year just to sustain our nuclear force. Is it really the best 
use of the Department's time to be continuing to push 
electric--so-called electric vehicles that our grid can't 
support when we can't even maintain our nuclear deterrent?
    Secretary Granholm. We want to get to 100 percent clean 
electricity by 2035, and the auto industry itself has said that 
by 2030, half of all electric vehicles, they intend to sell 
because this is where the market, they see going will be 
electric.
    Senator Cotton. That is so, I mean, that s fine as a goal. 
I disagree with the goal. I don't think it is practical. But I 
would also like to still be in a free and independent safe 
nation by 2035 as well.
    Secretary Granholm. We will be.
    Senator Cotton. Our nuclear arsenal has underpinned our 
safety and our independence for 80 years now, and China is 
producing plutonium and uranium at much greater rates right now 
than we are.
    Again, this is a question about the plutonium pits. It is 
not about expanding our nuclear forces, which is what we need 
to do given the threat we face from Russia and China's combined 
overmatch, but just maintaining it.
    Like, I would think that this would be the most urgent 
question that your department faces, because it is about our 
survival as a Nation, not our simple mix of what kind of cars 
we use 12 years from now.
    Secretary Granholm. Well, clearly, making sure that we have 
a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent is a top 
priority of the Department and of NNSA.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. My time has expired but thank you for 
your commitment to get back to me on that question about 
electricity strains, especially from foreign companies on our 
defense industry.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton, very much. Thank 
you, Madam Secretary and Madam Administrator. There has been 
some discussion throughout about energy production. I would say 
it is my understanding that oil and natural gas production are 
both higher now than at any time in the past 6 years, and that 
we are on track to set new records on crude oil and natural gas 
production this year. Is that correct?
    Secretary Granholm. That is correct.
    Chairman Reed. We are doing a lot more in terms of 
extracting oil and natural gas than the preceding 
Administration.
    Secretary Granholm. That is correct.
    Chairman Reed. But that still does not alleviate, at least 
in my view, the need to move to a cleaner technology. That is 
the direction the President's headed for. So, it seems 
sometimes in Congress, the criticisms of the Administration for 
not being attentive to the fossil fuels when we are producing 
more fossil fuels than we have in 6 years----
    Secretary Granholm. Right. We will be--I want to correct--
we will be at record production for oil this year, 12.4 million 
barrels is what is projected, which is a record, and the same 
thing with LNG [liquefied natural gas]. We are at record 
exports of liquefied natural gas and we also want to be at 
record production of solar, and wind, and geothermal, and 
nuclear.
    Chairman Reed. Understanding that the fossil fuels are a 
bridge to, but a necessary bridge to alternative fuels that 
would be more compatible with the environment.
    Secretary Granholm. Right. We want to get to 100 percent 
clean by 2035.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, and I know, too, that 
your comments about the automobile industry. I think they have 
concerns about the environment, but I think they also have more 
concerns about products that they can sell and efficiently 
service and will be in demand by the American public. If I was 
on the board, I think I would be looking at those issues.
    Secretary Granholm. Because it is so much cheaper to 
actually operate and own an electric vehicle, and the prices of 
the new models coming out are much less than the models that 
you may currently see.
    Chairman Reed. All right, thank you. Well, this will 
conclude the open session and we will reconvene at 11:45 a.m. 
in SVC-217 for the closed session, and thank you very much. 
With that, I will declare the open session closed.
    Secretary Granholm. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 11:22 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

               Questions Submitted by Senator Angus King
                             energy storage
    1. Senator King. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, energy 
storage is the key to our Nation's clean energy future and is 
fundamental for improved resilience and readiness on our military 
installations. Leadership by the Department of Defense (DOD) can have 
significant spillover benefits for our broader society. The Energy 
Policy Act of 2020 established the Joint Long-Duration Energy Storage 
Demonstration Program between DOD and Department of Energy (DOE) for 
precisely these reasons. As the legislation stated, the program aims 
``(i) to demonstrate promising long-duration energy storage 
technologies at different scales; and (ii) to help new, innovative 
long-duration energy storage technologies become commercially viable.'' 
The Bipartisan Infrastructure Law appropriated $150,000,000 for this 
program and a related program at DOE. What is the current status of 
this Joint Demonstration Program?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. As part of the overall 
``Joint Long-Duration Energy Storage Demonstrations Program,'' DOE 
released a $30 million Lab Call to demonstrate the resiliency 
advantages of LDES technologies at the U.S. DOE National Laboratories 
on October 12, 2022. This Lab Call was released, with acknowledgement 
from the Department of Defense (DOD). DOE selected six projects across 
two topic areas: Greater than 100kW and can discharge for 10+ hours and 
Greater than 500kW and can discharge for 24+ hours. These projects will 
help accelerate the commercial viability of innovative, state-of-the-
art technologies and effectively demonstrate their benefits to 
facilitate wider commercial adoption for stakeholders that have similar 
energy goals for their facilities or campuses.
    Additionally, on May 17, 2023, DOE and DOD signed a Memorandum of 
Understanding (MOU) in which DOE and DOD will coordinate with one 
another on selecting one or more military installation and technology 
provider to demonstrate energy resiliency at a U.S. military 
installation. DOE and DOD are currently developing requirements and 
scope for potential projects.

    2. Senator King. Secretary Granholm, what projects have been funded 
or are in the pipeline to be funded?
    Secretary Granholm. DOE selected six projects from the Lab Call 
across two topic areas. Topic area one was for technologies greater 
than 100kW and can discharge for 10+ hours and Topic Area two covered 
technologies greater than 500kW and can discharge for 24+ hours. Under 
Topic Area one projects at Argonne National Lab and Idaho National Lab, 
Sandia National Lab, and the National Renewable Energy Lab were 
selected for Award Negotiation. Under Topic Area two projects at Sandia 
National Lab, Pacific Northwest National Lab, and the National 
Renewable Energy Lab were selected for Award Negotiations. Those 
negotiations are ongoing. For more information on the selections please 
see https://www.energy.gov/oced/long-duration-energy-storage-
demonstrations-selections-lab-call.

    3. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, what benefits can 
energy storage programs across the DOD confer to our military's 
warfighting capabilities?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. This question should be 
addressed to DOD.

                                tungsten
    4. Senator King. Secretary Granholm, in 2018 the Department of 
Defense formally restricted the sourcing of tungsten from China, 
Russia, North Korea, and Iran for products, programs, and systems 
funded or used by the DOD. In addition to reducing national security 
and industrial base risks, this has helped spur investment at the last 
100 percent U.S.-owned and fully integrated tungsten producer (based in 
Maine). Has the DOE considered formally restricting where it sources 
critical materials such as Tungsten in a similar way?
    Secretary Granholm. Yes, DOE has considered formally restricting 
where it sources critical minerals, but at this time we do not believe 
it is in U.S. interests to do so. Nevertheless, DOE takes sourcing of 
its critical materials very seriously. Programs that DOE administers, 
such as the Section 48C Advanced Energy Project Credit, will prioritize 
projects that build and secure domestic supply chains, including 
obtaining critical materials from domestic sources and friendly 
nations.

    5. Senator King. Administrator Hruby, Given tungsten's unique 
shielding capabilities, the National Nuclear Security Administration 
(NNSA) and DOE require large amounts of specialty-engineered tungsten 
materials. The last U.S.-owned and fully integrated producer of 
tungsten-heavy alloy is in Maine and has found it exceedingly difficult 
to find staff at the NNSA or DOE that are interested in considering 
alternatives to the current foreign-owned sources (even on programs 
that require U.S. clearances). With most of this tungsten produced by 
foreign-owned and non-North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) 
country-headquartered companies, would the NNSA consider looking into 
creating more competition and ensuring that the U.S. does not find 
itself reliant on domestic-owned suppliers?
    Administrator Hruby. Today, NNSA is procuring tungsten alloys 
through domestically produced sources who use both recycled scrap and 
imported ore to produce these alloys. There are other U.S. based 
organizations that use either recycled scrap or imported ore to make 
the tungsten powder used in tungsten alloys. Depending on the process 
used to make the alloy, it can be very difficult to meet the strict 
NNSA technical requirements needed for these procured alloys, such as 
non-magnetic requirements. NNSA continues to monitor, assess, and 
mitigate risks where warranted for continuity of supply and increased 
supply chain flexibility. As various threats and opportunities present 
themselves in this evolving global market, NNSA will continue to look 
for ways to reduce risk within its supply chain using a systematic and 
cost-effective strategy to its supply chain design.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds
              sanford underground research facility (surf)
    6. Senator Rounds. Secretary Granholm, the SURF in Lead, South 
Dakota has been an important partner for the Department of Energy in 
conducting critical research in the fields of particle physics and dark 
matter. Can you please discuss the importance of continued funding for 
this facility and how it fits into the Department's broader scientific 
research goals?
    Secretary Granholm. The Sanford Underground Research Facility 
(SURF) located in Lead, South Dakota, is supported by a cooperative 
agreement with the DOE Office of High Energy Physics (HEP) with the 
goal of supporting underground science, especially high energy physics 
experiments that need to be shielded from cosmic rays. In fiscal year 
2023, HEP will provide $35 million for the operation of the facility 
and refurbishment of critical infrastructure. The LUX-ZEPLIN (LZ) 
experiment at SURF is currently searching for dark matter and has set 
the most stringent limits in the world. The LBNF/DUNE project is 
currently under construction at SURF. When completed, it will be the 
foremost neutrino experiment in the world. As the largest initiative in 
the HEP strategic plan, LBNF/DUNE is crucial for attracting the world's 
best physicists to the U.S. and is critical to maintaining a U.S. 
leadership role in particle physics. HEP is also an early adopter and 
science driver for many key advanced technologies that support the 
Department's broader scientific research goals, not only in particle 
accelerators and instrumentation, but also Artificial Intelligence, 
Quantum Science and Microelectronics. Scientists in other fields like 
geology and biology are also Working at SURF, supported by the 
Department or other agencies.

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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                      department of energy grants
    7. Senator Ernst. Secretary Granholm, what is the status of the 
Department of Energy's (DOE's) consideration of a $200 million grant to 
Microvast, a China-based lithium battery company?
    Secretary Granholm. Microvast is a majority U.S.-owned company, 
traded on NASDAQ (MVST) and headquartered in Stafford, Texas, with 
additional locations in Tennessee, Florida, and Colorado. Microvast 
proposed to build a polyaramid separator material production plant in 
Hopkinsville, Kentucky, with funding from the Infrastructure Investment 
and Jobs Act (IIJA) and the company's matching financial investment. 
The new battery separator material was developed in China and is 
currently manufactured in China. In the funding opportunity 
announcement and selection letters provided to the applicants, DOE 
reserved the right to terminate award negotiations at any time for any 
reason. In this case, DOE conducted and reviewed multiple risk 
assessments conducted before and after the selection and determined the 
potential risks could not be sufficiently mitigated for this project 
and it was not in the government's interest to proceed to an award. 
Microvast was notified of DOE's decision to not move forward with 
negotiations on May 22, 2023. The IIJA funds allocated to this 
selection will be applied to future competitively awarded funding 
opportunities.
         department of defense (dod) non-tactical vehicle fleet
    8. Senator Ernst. Secretary Granholm, what operational energy risks 
would DOD adoption of an electric vehicle (EV) non-tactical vehicle 
fleet create?
    Secretary Granholm. Electric vehicles are quieter, more powerful, 
can accelerate faster, and have a lower heat signature compared to 
existing combustion non-tactical vehicles. Electric vehicle technology 
is advancing rapidly and is being quickly adopted by all commercial 
manufacturers around the world. Like fossil fuels, electrical power is 
ubiquitous throughout the world, and has been used for propulsion for 
over a century. Determining overall impact (positive or negative) to 
operational energy risk would require analysis of a combination of 
variables tied to each individual mission.
                       fuel supply chain impacts
    9. Senator Ernst. Secretary Granholm, on Monday, May 1, without 
action from this Administration on an emergency waiver, we will see 
summer sales of E15 go away in 90 percent of gas stations that sell E15 
and every single station in my State will lose this ability to sell 
E15. Do you agree that the ongoing war in Ukraine is creating global 
pressures on energy markets and disrupting the fuel supply chain?
    Secretary Granholm. Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 
February 2022 exacerbated challenges in global energy markets, 
particularly as energy demand recovered from the economic impacts of 
the COVID-19 pandemic. Disruptions to global fuel supply chains were 
particularly challenging. However, Russia's full-scale invasion and the 
energy market challenges connected to it also motivated a major shift 
in thinking, propelling the international community to accelerate the 
energy transition, both for climate and for geopolitical reasons.
    In the months following Russia's full-scale invasion, alternative 
suppliers stepped in to meet energy demand in regions that historically 
relied on Russian oil imports. In early 2022, oil prices rose in 
anticipation of supply disruptions and the world saw significant shifts 
in oil trade flows. However, prices began to moderate toward the latter 
half of 2022, and crude oil prices are now lower than they were at the 
start of the full-scale invasion. Crude prices have moderated because 
Russia has maintained output, strategic inventories have been released 
with efforts led by the United States, alternative suppliers have 
increased production, and markets are bearish about oil demand growth. 
Though prices have moderated, Russia's full-scale invasion has led to 
longer trading routes, which strain oil tanker availability and 
influence commodity prices during periods of supply disruption or 
strong demand.
    In response to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine and broader 
weaponization of the energy exports to Europe, Europe sought to 
significantly reduce its consumption of natural gas and to find non-
Russian suppliers to meet its natural gas demand. Europe increased its 
imports of natural gas from Norway, Algeria, the United States, and 
others.
    Natural gas prices surged in Europe as Russia curtailed its exports 
in the months that followed its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. As a 
result, Europe's industrial demand for natural gas shrank by 26 percent 
from 2021 to 2022. The pace of industrial demand destruction in 2022 
and its insensitivity to more recent short-term lower prices indicate 
that the natural gas price surges and overall supply disruptions have 
likely led to structural changes in European industrial gas 
consumption. These structural changes include improved efficiency, 
consumer behavior adjustments, and the loss of manufacturing output in 
certain gas-intensive industries like base metals, chemicals, and non-
metallic minerals production. S&P Global estimates more than one-
quarter of this demand destruction will be permanent due to improved 
efficiency, factory closures, and relocation of production to locations 
like the U.S. with cheaper energy costs.
    As Europe faced piped gas supply disruptions from Russia, the 
United States became a critical supplier of gas to Europe via LNG 
deliveries. In 2022, 64 percent of U.S. LNG exports sailed to Europe. 
France, the U.K., Spain, and the Netherlands accounted for 74 percent 
of European imports of U.S. LNG.
    To support European partners in their efforts to enhance their 
energy security and reduce their reliance on Russian energy imports, 
the U.S. Department of Energy has focused on two goals: diversification 
of Europe's energy supplies away from Russia and the decarbonization of 
Europe's energy systems. The United States and its partners seek to 
advance collaborative measures and policies to strengthen Europe's 
energy systems to relieve pressures in global energy markets.

    10. Senator Ernst. Secretary Granholm, do you agree that the U.S. 
has a domestically produced, readily available, lower cost, lower 
carbon fuel in the form of E15?
    Secretary Granholm. The United States is the world's largest 
producer and consumer of biofuels. The domestic ethanol industry has 
over 200 operating ethanol plants with production capacity of more than 
17 billion gallons per year of ethanol. These ethanol production 
facilities support nearly 70,000 jobs, many in rural areas, and produce 
low-carbon fuel that is used widely across the United States. In fact, 
98 percent of all gasoline sold in the United States is actually a 10 
percent ethanol blend, or E10. The Environmental Protection Agency 
(EPA) has approved blending ethanol into gasoline at 15 percent ethanol 
by volume (E15) for use in vehicles of Model Year (MY) 2001 and more 
recent. However, E15 is not widely available due to the need for 
separate fueling infrastructure to avoid concerns over ``misfuelling'' 
or using E15 in older vehicles that are not approved to use E15.
    The most recent comprehensive DOE study, \1\ published by Argonne 
National Laboratory in 2021, found that U.S. corn ethanol has 44 
percent-52 percent lower GHG emissions than gasoline. This analysis 
found that carbon emissions from U.S. corn ethanol fell 20 percent 
between 2005 and 2019 due to increased corn yields per acre, decreased 
fertilizer use, and improved ethanol production processes. Existing 
technologies and agricultural practices have the potential to make 
further, significant improvements in the reduction of lifecycle GHG 
emissions of ethanol from approximately 40 percent today to over 70 
percent as compared to a petroleum baseline.
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                         nuclear infrastructure
    11. Senator Ernst. Administrator Hruby, has the Nuclear Weapons 
Council comprehensively reviewed its nuclear infrastructure to account 
to two nuclear peers?
    Administrator Hruby. The Nuclear Weapons Council (NWC) has reviewed 
capabilities needed to deter two nuclear peers simultaneously and 
recognizes a continuous re-evaluation process is necessary due to the 
current global dynamics. One of the most challenging aspects of 
deterring two nuclear peers is the nuclear infrastructure capability 
and capacity constraints in NNSA. NNSA is re-establishing, modernizing, 
and expanding the capacity of its infrastructure needed for the current 
Program of Record. If the infrastructure plan receives the funding 
requested and NNSA can find qualified personnel to conduct the work, 
the most critical infrastructure investments will be complete in the 
late 2030's. Our priority in infrastructure planning is to build a 
flexible and resilient enterprise. If the Program of Record changes, 
additional infrastructure changes may be necessary and there are other 
infrastructure needs to accomplish the Program of Record in the longer 
term. We have learned that infrastructure investments need to be more 
continuous going forward than they have been in the past.

    12. Senator Ernst. Administrator Hruby, are you aware of any 
complications that would delay or disable the United States from doing 
so?
    Administrator Hruby. Ongoing NNSA efforts to modernize the nuclear 
security enterprise's infrastructure are challenged by ongoing supply 
chain issues, equipment delivery delays, contractor performance, 
inflation, and shortages of qualified labor. However, NNSA remains 
committed to modernizing capabilities across the enterprise to enable 
us to continue to meet Department of Defense requirements, and we are 
prioritizing investments across multiple laboratories, plants, and 
sites. As Secretary Granholm and I testified, funding interruptions or 
inconsistencies would significantly delay major infrastructure projects 
and increase the difficulty of delivering projects and meeting 
requirements within previously established baselines.

    13. Senator Ernst. Administrator Hruby, what are the requirements 
of developing a flexible nuclear infrastructure that can reset the 
hedge after uploading extant non-deployed nuclear weapons?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA is responsible for modernizing the 
facilities, infrastructure, technologies, and manufacturing methods to 
meet stockpile program of record capacities defined by the Nuclear 
Weapons Council. Multiple strategic material streams and component 
production capabilities are necessary to sustain the Nation's nuclear 
deterrent. As the 2022 Nuclear Posture Review (NPR) describes, the plan 
for a resilient and adaptive nuclear security enterprise has three 
pillars: (1) a Nuclear Deterrent Risk Management Strategy, (2) a 
Production-based Resilience Program, and (3) a Science and Technology 
Innovation Initiative. NNSA is responsible for the second and third 
pillars and is coordinating with DOD on the first. NNSA's Production-
based Resilience program includes development of a nuclear 
infrastructure with the flexibility to respond to changes in 
requirements, including potential changes in hedge requirements should 
they come to pass. Detailed requirements for this infrastructure, such 
as flexibility, are developed as future production facilities and 
equipment that form the future production infrastructure are designed. 
As an example, for pit production capabilities, NNSA is doing two 
things to provide flexibility: (1) minimally building out some unused 
space in the building if requirements increase so more equipment could 
be installed, and (2) designing so that the capacity could be obtained 
in one shift so that additional shifts could be added if production 
demands increase. Any increased production through additional shifts 
likely would come at a cost of decreased preventative maintenance.

    14. Senator Ernst. Administrator Hruby, do you agree that a review 
of infrastructure plans should account for the need to reset the hedge?
    Administrator Hruby. I believe the NWC should continue to review 
the capabilities and capacity of the nuclear security enterprise while 
planning active and inactive stockpile composition to ensure 
Presidential Guidance can be achieved. The NWC, including NNSA, 
considers current and future risks to the nuclear stockpile and plans 
accordingly. Any updates to Presidential Guidance would be accompanied 
by an assessment of the abilities and capacities of the nuclear 
security enterprise to meet such guidance. NNSA must prepare to deliver 
and sustain safe, secure, reliable warheads under a variety of possible 
future scenarios, including possible changes in hedge requirements, and 
is working accordingly to develop a flexible production infrastructure.

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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
   australia-united kingdom-united states (auk) nuclear waste storage
    15. Senator Sullivan. Administrator Hruby, in your joint testimony 
you stated ``NNSA provided technical advice to our AUKUS partners on 
the full suite of requirements that underpin nuclear stewardship to 
implement the strongest possible safeguards and verification measures 
while achieving the overall objectives of AUKUS.'' The AUKUS agreement 
requires Australia to store fuel from decommissioned reactors. Can you 
update the Committee on your work with Australian partners to identify 
possible storage options?
    Administrator Hruby. As part of its commitment to nuclear 
stewardship, Australia has committed to managing all radioactive waste 
generated through its nuclear-powered submarine program, including 
spent nuclear fuel, in Australia. The United Kingdom and the United 
States will assist Australia in developing this capability, leveraging 
Australia's decades of safely and securely managing radioactive waste 
domestically. Australia will manage these materials in accordance with 
its nuclear nonproliferation and other international obligations and 
commitments. We have had some preliminary discussions with Australian 
counterparts on these issues. Australian delegations have visited the 
Naval Reactors Facility at Idaho National Laboratory to better 
understand how our naval nuclear spent fuel is safely and securely 
stored. Australian officials also visited Savannah River National 
Laboratory where issues related to community engagement on spent 
nuclear fuel issues were discussed. We will continue to engage with 
Australian counterparts on this issue going forward.
   maintaining our nuclear capability while working toward building 
                              australia's
    16. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, I 
strongly support AUKUS and believe it will strengthen Australia's 
military deterrence in the Indo-Pacific. The recently announced details 
on the Australian submarine acquisition plan have raised some questions 
about whether the U.S. and Australia have the industrial base capacity 
to build the number of submarines both countries require. We also 
shouldn't forget the significant learning curve for Australia to become 
a nuclear Navy, an undertaking that requires the Australian Navy to 
rapidly train a cadre of personnel in nuclear submarines operations. 
How are we ensuring that our Australian partners develop the nuclear 
expertise to safely maintain and operate nuclear submarines?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. Since the inception of 
the AUKUS initiative, DOE/NNSA has had a leading role in intensively 
examining the full suite of requirements that underpin nuclear 
stewardship, with a specific focus on safety, design, construction, 
operation, maintenance, disposal, regulation, training, environmental 
protection, installations and infrastructure, industrial base capacity, 
workforce, and force structure.
    DOE/NNSA has done so by emphasizing the concept of ``stewardship'', 
which includes the development of the entire ecosystem to oversee, 
sustain, and safely operate nuclear technology. It also includes 
governance and regulatory structures, growing operational proficiency, 
and developing the engineering and technical depth and experience to 
safely own, operate, support, and dispose of nuclear-powered 
submarines. A focus on stewardship will be foundation as the U.S., UK, 
and Australia work to deliver the optimal pathway under AUKUS.
                         aukus nuclear reactors
    17. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby, 
in your joint testimony you stated ``sustained funding is vital for the 
support of these efforts and will allow Naval Reactors to meet current 
and future force needs; this foundational support of Naval Reactors is 
critical to our ability to deliver on AUKUS.'' Do you have any concerns 
about the availability of Naval Reactors to meet the demands of AUKUS?
    Secretary Granholm and Administrator Hruby. No, we do not have 
concerns about the availability of Naval Reactors to meet the demands 
of AUKUS. Naval Reactors has been an active participant since the 
inception of AUKUS owing to its expertise in all matters pertaining to 
naval nuclear propulsion including what it takes to provide proper 
stewardship for nuclear propulsion technology from ``cradle to grave.'' 
Additionally, Naval Reactors has been assisting the United Kingdom with 
developing and sustaining their nuclear propulsion program since 1958. 
AUKUS will now require similar assistance to Australia which will add a 
significant, enduring workload to the Naval Reactors program. We 
anticipate that Australia and the UK will provide funding for the 
support that Naval Reactors provides, pending the conclusion of 
appropriate legal arrangements. DOE/NNSA is fully committed to working 
with the Department of Defense and Congress to ensure Naval Reactors is 
appropriately postured to fully support U.S. national security 
requirements as well as AUKUS, building on the nearly 75 years of 
expertise and talent the Naval Reactors program has cultivated to meet 
the generational challenge of coordinating and sustaining the naval 
nuclear propulsion programs of all three nations.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Eric Schmitt
  kansas city non-nuclear expansion transformation (kcnext) expansion 
                          transformation plan
    18. Senator Schmitt. Administrator Hruby, I understand that the 
KCNExT plan calls for a nonstandard approach to procure land and 
facilities for the expansion. Can you provide information on the lease-
purchase agreement plan, and what benefits to the government you expect 
to achieve through this approach?
    Administrator Hruby. NNSA is pursuing the non-traditional 
development and acquisition of the land adjacent to the Kansas City 
National Security Campus (KCNSC) Botts Road Main Campus to support the 
growing nuclear modernization demands. Specifically, NNSA is in the 
process of negotiating a series of lease-purchase agreements with the 
current landowner. Should negotiations continue to progress well, we 
could see execution of an initial agreement in fiscal year 2024. This 
involves the landowner development of the property, including the 
construction of office space. Once completed, NNSA would lease the 
property for a period to ensure it meets agency needs and Federal 
acquisition requirements before purchasing the property. This multi-
year, multi-phase acquisition could provide up to an additional 1.12 
million square feet of manufacturing space and 675,000 square feet of 
office space to accommodate KCNSC's expected long-term growth. NNSA 
expects that this approach will meet the site's demonstrated space 
needs more quickly and efficiently than Federal construction on 
federally owned land. The phased approach also provides agility in the 
event we need to adjust scope or change strategies throughout the 
expansion process.
               mitigating challenges and staying on-time
    19. Senator Schmitt. Administrator Hruby, I appreciate yours and 
National Nuclear Security Administration's (NNSA's) novel approach to 
solving capacity needs at the Kansas City National Security Campus. 
What do you perceive as the challenges associated with this approach 
and how are you preparing to mitigating risks to stay on timeline?
    Administrator Hruby. Pursuing innovative approaches inherently 
carries risk as our teams are combining their expertise in new ways to 
overcome challenges that could not be solved with our traditional 
mindsets. The decision to negotiate a multi-phased deal with the 
landowner was designed to mitigate the schedule risk we know would 
exist if we pursued a government land purchase followed by government 
construction. This new approach is being designed in a phased manner to 
give us the opportunity to learn and adjust throughout the project to 
mitigate risk. We believe this agile approach will allow NNSA to 
deliver the infrastructure needed on time while integrating stakeholder 
feedback, maintaining oversight over construction timelines, and 
collaborating with the developer as they progress through each phase.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                        THURSDAY, APRIL 27, 2023

                              United States Senate,
                               Committee on Armed Services,
                                                    Washington, DC.

UNITED STATES EUROPEAN COMMAND AND UNITED STATES TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 8:04 a.m., in 
room G50, 112. Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, Kaine, King, Manchin, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, 
Ernst, Cramer, Scott, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Senator Wicker is on his way, but indicated 
we should begin. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony from General Christopher Cavoli, Commander of 
United States European Command and NATO's [North Atlantic 
Treaty Organization's] Supreme Allied Commander Europe, and 
General Jacqueline Van Ovost, Commander of United States 
Transportation Command.
    Thank you for your service to the Nation, and I thank the 
men and women serving under your commands at this critical 
time. The security challenges of European Command or EUCOM have 
never been clearer. For more than a year, Russia has waged a 
brutal, unprovoked war on Ukraine, inflicting terrible 
suffering on the people of Ukraine and threatening European 
stability.
    Ukrainians have fought with incredible courage and skill to 
repel Russia's vicious assault, defending the same values and 
freedoms that we cherish. Ukraine has achieved some very 
notable successes, but there is hard fighting ahead and more to 
be done. Throughout this conflict, the NATO alliance has shown 
remarkable unity and resolve.
    A formidable coalition of our allies has joined together to 
provide military and humanitarian support to Ukraine and impose 
severe cost on Russia's economy. If Putin thought his war would 
drive a wedge between NATO and members, and within the 
international community, he was badly mistaken.
    NATO unity has never been stronger, and many European 
nations are taking steps to invest greater proportions of their 
budgets and institutional energies to improve their military 
capabilities. Indeed, in a triumphant moment for NATO, Finland 
recently joined the alliance. This was an utter rejection of 
Russia's strategic goals, and I know the Finns will contribute 
significantly to the alliance.
    I hope we will soon welcome Sweden as well. President Biden 
deserves great credit for marshaling these efforts. His 
Administration continues to provide critical military equipment 
and training to Ukraine, including combat vehicles like Abrams 
tanks, Strykers, and Bradleys, as well as weapons like HIMARS 
[High Mobility Artillery Rocket System], Howitzers, Patriot air 
defense systems, and various types of ammunition.
    This equipment, in concert with contributions and training 
from across the alliance, has provided an important mix of 
capabilities to bolster Ukrainian effectiveness on the 
battlefield. Let there be no doubt the United States will 
continue to help Ukraine succeed on the battlefield. America's 
assistance to Ukraine is also an investment our own national 
security interest. Beyond repelling Putin, we know China is 
watching closely and we must succeed.
    General Cavoli, the NATO alliance has made important 
progress in its ability to generate and maintain the collective 
force posture, operations, and investments necessary to deter 
Russian aggression against its members, and the United States 
has played a key role in those efforts. At the same time, the 
security environment in Europe has experienced a tectonic 
shift.
    I would like to know your views on plans for United States 
military activities and investment in the EUCOM [European 
Command] area of responsibility in light of these changes. 
General Van Ovost, TRANSCOM [United States Transportation 
Command] is also playing a crucial role in our support to 
Ukraine.
    American troops continue to operate forward logistics 
centers to receive, identify, and transport the majority of 
security aid intended for Ukraine and across, and from the 
international community.
    This has been an enormous task, executed with impressive 
skill on little notice. I would appreciate an update on these 
efforts and any lessons learned that you may have to share. 
Keeping an eye to the future and the pacing threat of China, an 
important reality we are learning is that any potential 
adversary is going to attack our logistic support system.
    This idea of contested logistics will include obvious 
threats to our forward basis, as well as the aircraft and ship 
that resupply those bases. But it could also include cyber-
attacks against information technology systems that support our 
deployments, both government and commercial, and possible 
kinetic attacks against ports and airfields supporting our 
deployments.
    I am concerned that our thinking about logistics during 
conflict has too often defaulted to our uncontested military 
dominance since World War II. We have always owned the sea and 
air lines of communication, and have only had to worry about 
logistics efficiency, not effectiveness. General Van Ovost, I 
would like to know what steps TRANSCOM is taking to prepare for 
such threats to our logistics, and how the military services 
can alter their acquisition programs to take these concerns 
into account.
    Thank you again to our witnesses and I look forward to your 
testimoneys. As a reminder for my colleagues, at the conclusion 
of the open session of this hearing, we will recess for the 
joint session of Congress.
    We will then reconvene for the closed session at 12:30 p.m. 
in room SVC-217. We are committed to allowing all of our 
colleagues to ask questions, so if the assembly time arrives, 
we will continue in the open session until everyone has an 
opportunity to do so. In lieu of Senator Wicker's arrival 
shortly, I will ask General Cavoli to begin.

               Prepared Statement by Senator Roger Wicker

    Good morning. I thank our witnesses for being here and for 
their flexibility on scheduling this hearing.
    Today's witnesses highlight the importance of properly 
resourcing the National Defense Strategy to deter regional 
aggression and to prevent that aggression from becoming a 
global conflict. European Command's area of responsibility 
covers 50 countries and territories, but Ukraine is the 
command's primary focus today. Transportation Command is the 
linchpin for equipment distribution in Ukraine's fight against 
Russia and is crucial in supporting the Indo-Pacific Command 
against the Chinese Communist Party.
    These are two different commands with two very different 
mission requirements, but they support one single goal: to 
deter Russia and China.
    Over 1 year has passed since Russia's unprovoked, illegal, 
and brutal invasion of Ukraine.? The courage and ingenuity 
shown by Ukrainian troops, many of whom were civilians before 
the war, continues to be nothing short of heroic. EUCOM leads 
United States military assistance efforts, in coordination with 
allies and partners, to support Ukraine.
    The war has entered a new phase as Ukraine prepares to go 
on the offense after beating back months of relentless Russian 
attacks. I welcome General Cavoli's thoughts on the current 
conditions of the war and its possible trajectory and the role 
Congress can play in helping Ukraine win. I would also 
appreciate General Cavoli's best military judgment on what more 
could be done to sharpen the military capabilities of the 
Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    Congress has already stepped up by providing significant 
funding to assist Ukraine, and more may be needed in the 
future. Accountability is essential to maintaining bipartisan 
support for Ukraine and the trust of the American people. The 
current accountability requirements seem to be working, but we 
would be interested in General Cavoli's views.
    In addition, I hope General Cavoli will describe the 
significant role allies and partners play in supporting 
Ukraine--I am especially interested in learning about the 
contributions of our European friends and the impact they are 
making. This war matters greatly to the United States, but it 
is being fought in Europe's backyard.
    Ukraine is EUCOM's primary focus but not its only one. I 
welcome General Cavoli's thoughts on how EUCOM and INDOPACOM 
are sharing lessons learned from the war. We also need an 
update on EUCOM efforts to counter Chinese moves in Europe.
    TRANSCOM has a unique mission set in that it supports U.S. 
Forces around the world. In its work helping with the 
Afghanistan evacuation, delivering crucial weapons to Ukraine, 
or planning for contested logistics in the Pacific, TRANSCOM 
has shown it is key to the implementation of the National 
Defense Strategy.
    Late last year, General Van Ovost gave an interview on 
logistics in which she said, ``I don't like to be a miracle 
worker, I like a very stable plan that we can actually 
execute.'' I am also in favor of an executable plan. 
Unfortunately, I do not believe that plan exists as of now. The 
Department of Defense has struggled to develop a coherent 
strategy when it comes to joint contested logistics. We must be 
proactive and thoughtful on this issue, not reactive and 
shortsighted.
    EUCOM has seen firsthand how difficult it is to supply a 
major modern war. Contested logistics in the Western Pacific 
should not just be a combat-credible capability, it must be 
seen by our adversaries as a force deterrent.
    We are moving too slowly at almost every point of our 
logistics infrastructure--including fuel supply and sealift and 
airlifts fleets. I would appreciate an update today on what 
resources or authorities TRANSCOM needs to support contested 
logistics.
    I thank our witnesses and look forward to their testimony.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL CHRISTOPHER CAVOLI, USA COMMANDER, UNITED 
  STATES EUROPEAN COMMAND/ NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION 
                SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER EUROPE

    General Cavoli. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman Reed, to 
Ranking Member Wicker, of course, as well, distinguished 
Members of the Committee, it is a privilege to testify before 
you today, and in many cases to see you again. On behalf of the 
men, women, and the families of USEUCOM first of all, I thank 
you for your steadfast support to their mission, to their 
safety, and to their well-being.
    I would also like to recognize and thank my Command Senior 
Enlisted Leader, CSM Rob Abernathy, sitting behind me here, who 
accompanied me here today. He is representing our 
noncommissioned officers, our enlisted soldiers, and our 
families who remain America's asymmetric advantage against any 
adversary.
    Thank you, Rob, for being here. I am very pleased to appear 
today beside my good friend and colleague, Jackie Van Ovost, 
whose U.S. Transportation Command is unlike anything else on 
the globe and who works miracles every day. Thank you, Jackie, 
to your whole command.
    This is, as the Chairman noted, an unprecedented time in 
Europe-Atlantic area. Fourteen months ago, Russia's illegal, 
unprovoked invasion of Ukraine dramatically shifted perceptions 
of European stability and our broader global security. It 
galvanized European governments' resolve. Last year's NATO 
summit in Madrid was a turning point for the alliance.
    Nations committed to a new strategic concept that put 
collective territorial defense at the top of the alliance task 
list for the first time in 35 years, and for the first time 
since the cold war, set into motion a series of efforts that 
will profoundly change the military structure and activities of 
NATO. We have been creating new plans.
    That is, allied command operations has been creating new 
plans for the General defense of the alliance, and these will 
drive higher levels of readiness and more targeted national 
defense investments, especially on the part of our allies.
    Nations agreed to accelerate defense spending increases, to 
establish enhanced force posture on the Eastern flank of NATO, 
to turn unprecedented numbers of troops and weapons over to 
NATO command and control, and critically, to bring two new 
members into the alliance. Happy to note, as the Chairman did, 
that Finland has already joined and we hope soon to see of 
Sweden as a member as well.
    Over time, these efforts inside the alliance will lead to 
significantly increased European military capabilities and will 
continue to deter aggression against the alliance. That 
deterrent posture has allowed us to work intensively in the 
past year or so to assist Ukraine. In the past year, thanks to 
your support, United States donations of arms, ammunition, 
equipment, vehicles, and supplies have enabled Ukraine to halt 
Russia's invasion.
    We have not been alone in this effort. The DOD (Department 
of Defense] and USEUCOM [United States European Command] lead 
an international effort represented by the 50 plus member UDCG, 
Ukraine Donors Contact Group. We have an effort together to 
identify transport and deliver equipment and ammunition to 
Ukraine, along with the training to use that equipment in 
combat.
    This material support and the training provided by 
international donors has been huge and fundamental to the 
Ukrainian military's success so far. Over the winter, our 
coalition has enabled the Ukrainian military to generate the 
military capabilities necessary to defend and regain parts of 
their sovereign territory, and we are confident our Ukrainian 
partners are good stewards of donated aid.
    Our embassy team in Kyiv, led by Brigadier General Garrick 
Harmon and the security assistance group in Ukraine, located in 
Germany, worked diligently to monitor and keep a close eye on 
all lethal aid to ensure it is getting to and staying in the 
right hands. Although we remain optimistic for Ukraine's future 
and sovereignty, this war is far from over.
    Russia will remain an acute threat to Euro-Atlantic 
security, and the National Defense Strategy rightly calls our 
attention to that. Russia is not the only problem in Europe. 
The People's Republic of China (PRC) continues to increase its 
access and influence in our theater, and its activities pose 
risks to United States allied and partner interests.
    The PRC uses foreign direct investment, government backed 
business ventures, and loans to gain access to technology and 
to gain control over vital European infrastructure and 
transportation routes.
    Finally, Europe continues to face transnational challenges 
as well. Such as violent extremist organizations, uncontrolled 
immigration, organized crime, and even climate change. EUCOM 
trains and cooperates with allies and partners to help counter 
those challenges as well. Our strategic approach fortifies our 
allies and our partners.
    It strengthens alliance interoperability and enhances our 
collective combat capability, which deters our adversaries, and 
as always, should deterrence fail, USEUCOM, alongside our 
allies and partners, is ready to fight and win.
    Your continued support for our efforts, the authorities and 
the funding you give us, are critical to our ability to do 
this. Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for having me here today. 
I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Christopher G. Cavoli 
follows:]

          Prepared Statement by General Christopher G. Cavoli
    Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of 
the Senate Armed Services Committee, on behalf of the dedicated men, 
women, and their families preserving stability in the European theater, 
it is a privilege to testify before you as the Commander, United States 
European Command (USEUCOM). It is my distinct honor to serve alongside 
our Allies and partners, soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, 
coast guardsmen, civilians, and defense contractors as we work to 
deliver peace and secure U.S. interests.
    This is an unprecedented time for Euro-Atlantic security. Russia's 
illegal, unprovoked, brutal invasion of Ukraine upended many aspects of 
European security. It has forced us to recognize the imperative of 
collective territorial defense, which has altered North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization (NATO) force posture requirements. In this dynamic and 
uncertain environment, U.S. leadership remains indispensable; our 
actions must signal strong and unwavering resolve. We must maintain and 
buildupon our existing commitment to NATO and ensure the Alliance 
remains the foundation of European security and deterrence.
    Russia is not the only challenge in the USEUCOM AOR, however. The 
People's Republic of China is working to weaken democratic processes 
and undermine the rules-based international order. Violent extremist 
organizations also foster instability, while transboundary challenges, 
such as climate change, affect the operational environment. To address 
these challenges, we campaign in all domains--air, sea, land, space, 
and cyber--to deter aggression and build enduring strategic advantage.
    The National Security Strategy states that a free and prosperous 
Europe, defended by NATO, remains fundamental to United States national 
security. Further, the National Defense Strategy (NDS) describes 
mutually beneficial alliances and partnerships as the United States' 
greatest strategic advantage. The NATO Alliance is more unified now 
than it has been in its 74 years of existence. The combined response to 
Russia's invasion of Ukraine has demonstrated this. USEUCOM's strategic 
approach strengthens Alliance interoperability, fortifies Alliances and 
partnerships, and thereby enhances all-domain combat credibility. 
Should deterrence fail, USEUCOM, alongside our Allies and partners, is 
ready to fight and win.
    Congress has provided authorities and funding for security 
assistance to Ukraine on an unprecedented scale. Presidential Drawdown 
(PD) Authority and the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI) 
have proven key to Ukraine's success. Coupled with the bravery and 
ingenuity of the Ukrainian people--and robust support from our NATO 
Allies and other partners--security assistance has changed the course 
of the conflict. We remain committed to supporting Ukraine`s urgent 
needs and increasing their combat capabilities over the long-term. 
Specifically, USEUCOM supports Department of Defense (DOD) efforts to 
transition Ukraine toward a western-style military with advanced and 
interoperable equipment. We appreciate the supplemental funding from 
Congress that has enabled our progress toward this goal. Ensuring 
accountability of United States security assistance remains a top 
priority and we continue to work with Ukrainian authorities to ensure 
appropriate end-use monitoring.
    Congress has also provided critical support to the full range of 
investments in our posture and activities in Europe. We will continue 
to build on successes funded by the European Deterrence Initiative 
(EDI) as associated operations, activities, and investments are rolled 
from the former Overseas Contingency Operations budget to the base 
budget. These operations, activities, and investments allow us to deter 
Russia, assure our Allies, and strengthen NATO interoperability. 
Congressional appropriations support rotational forces, infrastructure, 
and prepositioned stocks, all of which increase operational efficiency 
and speed. These investments improve United States and NATO readiness 
by enabling exercises, training, and building partner capacity across 
all domains in the Euro-Atlantic area. We appreciate continued 
congressional support for our posture and activities in Europe; this 
funding is critical to the deterrence and defense of United States 
interests in Europe.
    risks and challenges in the useucom area of responsibility (aor)
    The USEUCOM AOR encompasses 50 countries, each with varying 
strategic aims. The theater contains vast maritime and air domains, 
including a large part of the Arctic region; the north and central 
Atlantic Ocean; the Mediterranean, Black, and Baltic Seas; and multiple 
strategic chokepoints. The European Union (EU) is the world's largest 
trading bloc and accounts for over 16 percent of global imports and 
exports. We continue to address security challenges across the AOR 
through force presence, pre-positioned stocks, and engagement and 
exercises with Allies and partners.
Russian Federation
    Russia remains Europe's core security challenge. Russia continues 
to wage its brutal war on Ukraine, target critical infrastructure, and 
threaten escalation. The Kremlin seeks to outlast the West by 
manipulating energy markets and influencing states to curb support to 
Kyiv. Due to the resilience and heroism of the Ukrainian people, with 
assistance from like-minded nations, Russian ground forces have 
suffered significant losses in Ukraine. Despite these setbacks, and 
their diminished stockpiles of equipment and munitions, Russian ground 
forces still have substantial capability and capacity, and continue to 
possess the ability to regenerate their losses.
    Russia remains a formidable and unpredictable threat that will 
challenge United States and European interests for the foreseeable 
future. Russian air, maritime, space, cyber, and strategic forces have 
not suffered significant degradation in the current war. Moreover, 
Russia will likely rebuild its future Army into a sizable and more 
capable land force, all while suspending its implementation of the 
Treaty on Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, as it has done since 
2007. Russia retains a vast stockpile of deployed and non-deployed 
nuclear weapons, which present an existential threat to the United 
States Homeland, our Allies, and partners, and is failing to comply 
with several of its legal obligations under the New START Treaty. 
President Putin's dangerous nuclear rhetoric introduces strategic 
uncertainty. All of these factors indicate that Russia remains an 
immediate and persistent threat to American interests in Europe and 
around the world.
    Russia pursues a military modernization program that prioritizes a 
range of advanced conventional, hybrid, and nuclear capabilities to 
coerce the West. Its primary focus is on development of six specific 
systems: a nuclear-powered cruise missile; a nuclear-armed hypersonic 
boost glide vehicle; a more capable heavy Intercontinental Ballistic 
Missile (Sarmat); a nuclear-armed, nuclear powered underwater drone 
(Poseidon); hypersonic cruise missiles; and lasers. These weapons 
provide Russia asymmetric threats to NATO and present new challenges to 
Western response options.
    Russia employs a range of tools to advance its foreign policy 
objectives to coerce neighboring states, divide the Alliance, and 
expand its global influence. Beyond its war of aggression in Ukraine, 
Russia also retains a military presence in 20 percent of Georgia's 
sovereign territory, and in Moldova against the will of those states. 
Russia also uses disinformation, cyber operations, and energy supply 
manipulation to coerce our Allies and partners. Russian private 
military contractors operate in Syria, Ukraine, and multiple African 
nations, working to advance Russian State interests.
People's Republic of China (PRC)
    The PRC seeks to increase its access, presence, and influence in 
Europe to refashion the international system to suit its interests and 
authoritarian preferences. The PRC threatens enduring United States, 
Allied, and partner interests in Europe through its foreign direct 
investment, government-backed business ventures, and infrastructure 
deals. Of particular concern are the PRC's investments in European 
ports, transportation nodes, and other critical infrastructure, which 
provide potential dual-use functions for the PRC. The PRC pursues 
bilateral engagement in these ventures through PRC-led forums such as 
the 14+1 Cooperation Framework with Central and Eastern European 
nations. These and other PRC activities have created dependencies and 
sources of leverage to influence our Allies and partners.
    PRC leaders remain focused on using both licit and illicit means to 
seize a dominant position in critical and emerging dual-use technology 
sectors--artificial intelligence, advanced robotics, quantum 
technologies, directed energy, and hypersonic systems--and using that 
dominant position to advance their authoritarian agenda. To increase 
adoption of PRC developed technology, the PRC is pursuing acceptance of 
its national technology standards across the globe. The PRC's efforts 
to expand Huawei 5G networks throughout Europe via PRC state-sponsored 
firms pose security risks to our Allies and partners. These activities 
allow the PRC to access and exploit intellectual property, sensitive 
information, technology, and private personnel information. Beyond 
economic impacts, these technology-related activities provide the PRC a 
military capacity that put United States national interests in the 
USEUCOM AOR at risk. We must remain vigilant, and work with our Allies 
and partners, to combat the PRC's activities related to critical and 
emerging technologies.
    We are also concerned about the destabilizing effects of deeper 
alignment between the PRC and Russia. Beijing's continued diplomatic 
support for Russia's illegal war against Ukraine is detrimental to 
European peace and stability. The PRC's amplification of Russian 
disinformation on the war in Ukraine undermines trust in Europe's 
democratic institutions. There are indications that Beijing is 
considering materially supporting Russia's war effort, while at the 
same time, Beijing and Moscow are deepening their defense engagements 
and interoperability, including joint maritime and air patrols. This 
increased cooperation has implications for European security as both 
Beijing and Moscow seek to change the existing rules-based structure in 
their favor.
    USEUCOM coordinates with our European defense counterparts to 
establish a common understanding of PRC actions and the associated 
risks. We support the U.S. whole-of-government effort to highlight the 
Trans-Atlantic shared values, interests, and transparent business 
practices of the current rules-based international order. NATO's 
Strategic Concept recognizes that the PRC's ambitions and coercive 
policies challenge NATO's interests, security, and values. Several 
European countries have removed Huawei from their networks, imposed 
investment screening mechanisms, reversed investment authorizations, 
and avoided investments by PRC-based companies due to the threats to 
European security. Together, the United States and Europe must continue 
to call out and work to counter the PRC's predatory and unfair 
practices.
Eastern Flank
    NATO's Eastern Flank--which USEUCOM defines as Estonia, Latvia, 
Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, and Hungary--remains a strategic focal 
point. The closer cooperation of the ``Bucharest Nine''--Bulgaria, 
Czech Republic, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, 
and Slovakia--has been a welcome outcome of the current crisis. Many 
have provided both lethal and non-lethal assistance to Ukraine, opened 
their borders to refugees, closed airspace to Russia, and supported 
economic sanctions against Russia. We remain encouraged by the positive 
actions of our Allies along the Eastern Flank, but these countries 
remain at risk for Russian coercion and aggression.
    The Baltic States continue to face a chronic threat from Russia. 
Russian ground forces from the Western Military District retain a size 
advantage over regional military and NATO forces on the eastern flank. 
Furthermore, Russia has substantial air and maritime capabilities in 
the region. The Baltic States lack the geographic depth of Ukraine--
meaning these states cannot trade space for time in the event of a 
Russian attack. These factors underline the importance of maintaining 
the capability to get timely indications and warnings, and of posturing 
combat-credible forces, joint capabilities, and stocks to support the 
Eastern Flank.
    The NATO Alliance is renewing its focus on collective territorial 
defense. Following Russia's invasion of Ukraine, NATO bolstered its 
posture on the Eastern Flank by establishing four new Battle Groups in 
Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, and Slovakia. NATO also expanded air 
policing operations and air defense exercises. NATO continues to assess 
the distribution of forces along the Eastern Flank to identify the 
appropriate posture for collective defense.
    Poland is a critical Ally in deterring and responding to Russian 
aggression. Poland has annually increased its defense budget and is 
undertaking a significant modernization program. This Ally is buying 
Abrams tanks, Patriot air defenses, and F-35s. Poland contributes 
critical infrastructure and logistics support to the joint force 
through an Enhanced Defense Cooperation Agreement. Additionally, Poland 
hosts the United States Army's Fifth Corps forward headquarters. This 
first-ever permanent basing of United States forces in Poland provides 
command and control for United States and multi-national tactical units 
in Europe. Our continued close collaboration with Poland strengthens 
NATO activities along the entire Eastern Flank.
    EUCOM has also built United States capacity in the AOR to support 
deterrence of Russian aggression. The United States deployed fourth and 
fifth generation aircraft, a carrier strike group, a Corps and Division 
headquarters, and two additional Brigade Combat Teams (BCT) to assist 
in NATO's defense at the outset of this conflict. In addition, we 
deployed our USEUCOM organic forces to the Eastern Flank, including the 
2d Cavalry Regiment, 173d Airborne Infantry BCT, Patriot forces and 
12th Combat Aviation Brigade. Collectively, these forces bolstered the 
Alliance and demonstrated the United States' commitment to collective 
defense.
Black Sea Region
    The countries of the Black Sea Region--which USEUCOM defines as 
Bulgaria, Moldova, Romania, and Ukraine--have long pushed back against 
Russian aggression. NATO Allies Romania and Bulgaria invited NATO 
Battle Groups to their territories, increased defense spending, and 
invested in military and logistics infrastructure. USEUCOM continues to 
work with Bulgaria and Romania to increase regional security, including 
the improvement of maritime domain awareness. Important work remains to 
strengthen regional security, increase economic prosperity, and reduce 
vulnerabilities to Russian manipulation. Moldovan President Sandu 
called for the withdrawal of the 1,500 Russian so-called 
``peacekeepers'' in the Transnistria region who have been present on 
Moldovan land without consent or a United Nations mandate since 1990. 
We support peaceful resolution to the Transnistria conflict without 
Russian interference.
Turkiye
    Turkiye's military capability and unique geographic location make 
it a key member of the NATO Alliance and vital to United States 
responses to regional events. We applaud Turkiye's strong support to 
Ukraine during Russia's invasion and will continue to increase our 
cooperation with Turkiye bilaterally and within the Alliance. We 
recognize Turkiye's critical leadership role in hosting United States 
servicemembers who conduct a wide array of NATO, bilateral, and 
unilateral missions including missile defense. Turkiye contributes 
forces to NATO missions in Iraq, Kosovo, Baltic Air Policing, and 
Standing NATO Maritime Group Two in the Mediterranean Sea. 
Additionally, Turkiye supports United States Bomber Task Force missions 
in the Black Sea and Eastern Mediterranean regions with tanker and 
fighter assets. Our longstanding relationship enabled USEUCOM to 
respond to Turkiye's devastating earthquakes this year with 
humanitarian assistance and disaster relief forces. USEUCOM continues 
to execute valuable security cooperation activities with Turkiye such 
as Professional Military Education, exercises, and F-16 Fleet 
Modernization and F-16 Viper acquisition via Foreign Military Sales. 
These actions will strengthen NATO interoperability and enable U.S. 
Force projection.
South Caucasus Region
    In the South Caucasus Region--which USEUCOM defines as Armenia, 
Azerbaijan, and Georgia--Putin's military and political failures in 
Ukraine have spurred states to reassess their relationships with 
Russia. Moscow has long employed economic levers, pervasive information 
activities, and ``frozen'' military conflicts to exert influence over 
South Caucasus countries. However, we have observed a marked shift in 
the relationships of Armenia and Azerbaijan with Russia. Both Yerevan 
and Baku appear to be making progress--albeit uneven--toward a peace 
settlement in the decades-old Nagorno-Karabakh conflict . Armenia has 
criticized Moscow's and the Collective Security Treaty Organization's 
failure to come to their aid against Azerbaijani attacks in September. 
In Georgia, however, we are concerned about the pace of Euro-Atlantic 
integration. Moscow continues to use domestic political division 
between the population at large and powerful oligarchs to its 
advantage. However, we continue to see the benefit of strong military-
to-military relations in Georgia and support the Embassy's efforts to 
showcase the benefits of transparent governance. As these states take 
action to pursue independent goals, we will continue to foster positive 
momentum in this region.
Western Balkans
    In the Western Balkans we continue to see Russian malign activities 
and observe emerging PRC influence among our Allies--Albania, Croatia, 
Montenegro, North Macedonia, and Slovenia. Our regional partners--
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, and Serbia--remain most at risk. Russia 
continues to fan existing ethnic tensions to impede Euro-Atlantic 
alignment and integration. The PRC has emerged as an alternative for 
economic and defense cooperation. PRC loans and investment in the 
Western Balkans focus on large-scale transportation, energy, and 
information infrastructure, which contribute further to disruption in 
the region. Despite these vulnerabilities, Balkan nations have joined 
Western efforts to provide support and assistance to Ukraine. The 
Western Balkans will require our continued commitment to address these 
vulnerabilities to Russian and PRC malign influence.
    The security environment in Bosnia and Herzegovina remains 
unstable. Russian influence fuels political and ethnic instability. 
Ethno-nationalist politics prevent Bosnia and Herzegovina from adopting 
much-needed political, rule of law, and economic reforms that would 
advance its Euro-Atlantic integration. Bosnia and Herzegovina's Serb-
majority entity, Republika Srpska, seeks to weaken State authorities 
and prevent further alignment with the EU and NATO while maintaining 
close ties to Russia. We will continue to work with Bosnia and 
Herzegovina to counter Russia's malign activities. The United States 
maintains robust ties with the Armed Forces of Bosnia and Herzegovina, 
as the country progresses toward NATO-standard capability targets.
    In Kosovo, Russia promotes uncertainty and seeks to block Kosovo's 
path to joining international organizations. Since 2008, Russia, the 
PRC, and other regional states have not recognized Kosovo's 
independence. We support the EU-facilitated dialog between Kosovo and 
Serbia to work toward the normalization of relations and enable 
enduring peace and stability. NATO's Kosovo Force (KFOR), a 
peacekeeping effort since 1999 under a United Nations Security Council 
mandate, retains a small but significant United States contribution 
that bolsters deterrence on the Southern Flank. KFOR enhances security, 
which helps set the conditions for a political solution and normalized 
Serbia-Kosovo relations. USEUCOM continues security cooperation 
activities that assist the Kosovo Security Force's transition to a 
limited territorial defense force, which will allow Kosovo to assume 
responsibility for its own territorial security.
    Serbia maintains its strategic goal of joining the EU and trending 
toward stronger Euro-Atlantic relations. Serbia joined 140 other 
nations of the United Nations General Assembly in condemning Russia's 
aggression in Ukraine. Serbia historically seeks to balance between 
East (Russia and the PRC) and West, so its willingness to condemn 
Russia's invasion of Ukraine is a positive step. However, Russia 
continues to foster malign activity and leverage tensions between 
ethnic Serbs and other groups in Montenegro and Bosnia and Herzegovina. 
The PRC is expanding its influence into the defense and security 
sectors through arms sales and exercises. Economic challenges in the 
region render nations vulnerable to the PRC's predatory lending 
practices, which put at risk critical strategic infrastructure security 
for EU and NATO member states. The United States and our Allies have 
improved bilateral defense ties with Serbia in recent years, and 
increased cooperation in military exercises, training, and 
international peacekeeping to combat Russia's influence. Serbia's 
movement away from Russia toward our European Allies and partners is 
promising.
The Arctic Region / High North
    In the Arctic Region--which USEUCOM defines as the Kingdom of 
Denmark, Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Canada and Russia--we use 
operations, activities, and investments to support the United States 
National Strategy for the Arctic Region. Collaboration with adjacent 
combatant commands and our Arctic Allies and partners is critical to 
Homeland defense and NATO collective defense. USEUCOM coordinates with 
United States Northern Command on Homeland Defense threats originating 
in or transiting through the Arctic region. USEUCOM co-chairs the 
Arctic Security Forces Roundtable with Norway, a forum where the Arctic 
nations plus the United Kingdom, France, the Netherlands, and Germany 
discuss Arctic challenges. These meetings enable shared understanding, 
and demonstrate Arctic nations' resolve to commit capable and credible 
forces to deter aggression. We also train alongside our Allies in this 
region to enhance NATO's ability to operate in cold environments. For 
example, United States marines train in the Arctic and High North with 
our NATO Allies, and the Army's 11th Airborne Division deployed forces 
from Alaska over the North Pole to Finland. The accession of Finland 
and potentially Sweden to NATO would bring added capabilities and 
experience to the Alliance.
Climate Change
    Climate change presents a growing challenge to United States 
national security interests and defense objectives in the AOR. Climate 
change affects states with already strained governments, which 
increases the probability for internal instability and conflict. It 
exacerbates security risks due to additional stress on populations and 
infrastructure. Climate hazards can displace people and increase the 
number of refugees seeking asylum in Europe. We are observing the 
effects of the warming Arctic, from thawing permafrost to fish 
migration further north. Europe is already affected by climate change--
increased wildfires, reduced agricultural production, and flooding--
which could worsen over time. Widespread droughts in Europe last summer 
elevated cross-border wildfire risks, depleted fresh water supplies, 
and limited inland river mobility. The changing climate may impact 
access to training areas vital to readiness due to flooding or erosion. 
Along with our Allies and partners, we continue to monitor these 
changes to assess the impacts in the security environment.
    USEUCOM collaborates with our interagency partners to enhance Ally 
and partner resilience to climate change, reduce the requirement for 
military assets during humanitarian emergencies, and ensure access to 
critical training areas. In Southwestern Europe, USEUCOM partnered with 
the U.S. Forest Service to address regional firefighting 
vulnerabilities, improve regional emergency response, and deliver first 
responder training. In partnership with the U.S. Army Corps of 
Engineers Army Geospatial Center, USEUCOM analyzes the climate impacts 
and resiliency of key routes needed for troop and material 
mobilization. To ensure long-term access to training areas in Poland, 
Romania, Albania, Slovenia, and Croatia, USEUCOM is partnering with 
United States Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research 
laboratory (CERL) to analyze climate impacts and environmental 
management options. These efforts will pay long-term dividends to 
regional stability and Ally and partner ability to generate credible 
combat readiness.
Violent Extremist Organizations (VEO)
    NATO Heads of State codified terror groups as a threat to the 
Alliance in the newest NATO Strategic Concept. With decentralized 
command and control and facilitation networks, VEOs spread from 
conflict zones into Europe. Isolated refugee and migrant communities 
increase the possibility for VEO recruitment. VEOs capable of external 
operations threaten to attack the United States from Europe. The 
actions of lone actors inspired by VEO ideology present the primary 
terrorist threat in Europe. Successful VEO-inspired or organized 
attacks in Europe complicate NATO integration efforts; these attacks 
force our Allies and partners to focus on internal security, driving 
resource competition for domestic security forces instead of NATO 
collective security force commitments. USEUCOM supports U.S. 
interagency counter-VEO initiatives and those of our NATO Allies and 
partners. Through security cooperation events such as key leader 
engagement and foreign military sales and financing, we help our Allies 
and partners balance domestic security requirements and meet NATO 
capability targets.
                            useucom strategy
    USEUCOM deters aggression in the AOR and--should deterrence fail--
we remain ready to respond alongside our Allies and partners to prevail 
in conflict across all domains. Our strategy strengthens the Alliance's 
interoperability, fortifies Alliances and partnerships, and enhances 
all-domain combat credibility. We advance NDS priorities by 
implementing integrated deterrence, campaigning, and building enduring 
advantages in Europe. As the coordinating authority for the Russia 
Problem Set, the Commander of USEUCOM advises the Secretary of Defense 
on force structure, resources, and synchronization of DOD activities to 
deter Russia and counter its global malign activities. Through 
collaborative planning, we contribute to NATO's ability to respond in 
crisis and conflict. Ultimately, USEUCOM's strategy supports national 
strategic guidance and advances U.S. policy goals.
Enhance All-Domain Combat Credibility
    USEUCOM's combat credibility in all domains is the foundation of 
our deterrence of Russia. In the land domain, improvements in key 
capabilities, posture, and partnerships improve our ability to deter 
future Russian aggression. USEUCOM ground forces are serving in NATO 
Battle Groups on the Eastern Flank, and rotational Brigades have led 
Operation ATLANTIC RESOLVE since 2014. USEUCOM posture additions 
include a forward Corps headquarters (HQ), an air defense artillery 
brigade HQ, an engineer brigade HQ, and a combat sustainment support 
HQ. These forward headquarters provide command and control of assigned 
and rotational forces in the USEUCOM AOR, and also serve to integrate 
Allies' contributions to large scale operations. Additional enablers 
such as a short-range air defense battalion, United States Army 
Garrison Poland, and the 405th Army Field Support Battalion Poland 
provide key defense, force protection, and sustainment capacity. 
Continued investment in Army Prepositioned Stocks equipment and 
facilities enables rapid integration of rotational combat units into 
USEUCOM and NATO operations.
    USEUCOM exercises ground forces to demonstrate combat credibility. 
During Exercise DEFENDER-Europe 21, United States Army Europe and 26 
participating nations demonstrated the ability to conduct large-scale 
operations at the battalion and brigade levels. In Exercise DEFENDER-
Europe 24, we will assemble a division-level formation on NATO's 
eastern flank for the first time since the end of the cold war. 
USEUCOM's enhanced posture with combat credible forces are essential 
for theater deterrence and our readiness to respond to crises alongside 
our Allies and partners.
    In the maritime domain, we execute integrated, all-domain naval 
operations and theater security cooperation alongside our Allies and 
partners. In response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, USEUCOM 
conducted the unprecedented Transfer of Authority of two carrier strike 
groups from the United States to NATO in support of NATO enhanced 
Vigilance Activities. In addition to our Forward Deployed Naval Forces, 
we continue to leverage Carrier Strike Group and Amphibious Ready 
Group/Marine Expeditionary Units to contribute to the maritime force. 
The U.S. Sixth Fleet provides maritime command and control capability 
while the U.S. Second Fleet complements and contributes to reinforce 
NATO's western flank. With exercises Formidable Shield, Northern 
Challenge, and BALTOPS, we enhance partner capabilities and further 
deter Russian aggression. Additionally, we are committed to a robust 
prepositioning program in coordination with our Allies to build agility 
and resilience for the combined and joint force. Our operational 
maritime forces provide an essential capability in strategic 
competition.
    In the air domain, we continue to improve our sensors, fighter 
aircraft, and ground-based air defense systems. These advanced systems 
enhance Integrated Air and Missile Defense, support Allies' collective 
air defense, and increase long-range strike capability. The Aegis 
Ashore program highlights a key U.S. contribution to NATO's missile 
defense. With a site in Romania and one under development in Poland, 
this capability protects the continent from Iranian ballistic missile 
attack. United States Air Force bombers launched from bases in the 
United States and Europe integrate with Ally and partner forces in 
Bomber Task Force missions. USEUCOM continues to build the first U.S. 
multi-role 5th Generation F-35 capability in-theater at RAF Lakenheath. 
Our air component is implementing the U.S. Air Force's Agile Combat 
Employment concept which, supported by Combined Joint All Domain 
Command and Control, demonstrate a credible, networked combat force 
from potential airfields across the continent. Through this model, we 
enhance posture, complicate adversary decisionmaking, and impose costs. 
This expansion of European air operations and deployable air bases 
enhances our forces' survivability. These capability enhancements are 
critical to our deterrence posture.
    In the space domain, maintaining assured access to space 
capabilities is vital to USEUCOM and NATO operations. USEUCOM 
coordinates with U.S. Space Command (USSPACECOM) to leverage space 
capabilities that ensure our ability to execute multi-domain operations 
and protect Allied space capabilities from malign actors. We host a 
USSPACECOM Joint Integrated Space Team and coordinate USSPACECOM 
posture initiatives at five locations in Europe. USEUCOM coordinates 
space-related activity with our Allies and partners to expand space 
partnerships within our AOR and integrate space capabilities into joint 
and combined operations. We reinforce the Secretary of Defense's Tenets 
of Responsible Behavior in Space and continue work with the U.S. Space 
Force, Joint Staff, and Office of the Secretary of Defense to establish 
a space service component to USEUCOM. A networked joint, combined space 
architecture is critical to all-domain combat credibility for the 
Alliance.
    In the cyber domain, USEUCOM coordinates with Joint Forces 
Headquarters--Cyber and U.S. Cyber Command (USCYBERCOM) to counter 
malign cyber activity and enhance Allied and partner capabilities. 
Recognizing the worldwide cyberspace capabilities of Russia, the PRC, 
Iran, and North Korea, USEUCOM works to enhance global cyber defenses 
and impose costs on malicious adversary behavior. USEUCOM identifies 
cyber options for USCYBERCOM to complement operations, activities and 
investments, and support response operations. USEUCOM also invests in 
sharing information on foreign malign and cyber activities with the 
interagency, Allies, and partners to improve our collective cyber 
defense. Persistent USCYBERCOM engagement activities, synchronized with 
USEUCOM operations, enhance warning of adversary actions, enable 
defense, and build trust with Allies and partners.
Enhance All-Domain Combat Credibility: Functional Areas
    As long as nuclear weapons exist, NATO will remain a nuclear 
Alliance. The nuclear capability of NATO-member Nuclear Weapons States 
deters aggression, prevents coercion, preserves peace, and instills 
confidence in the Trans-Atlantic bond. The U.S. continues to make 
available its strategic nuclear forces to defend NATO, serving as the 
Alliance's supreme guarantor of security. With key Allies, we maintain 
the capability to deploy strategic nuclear forces that support Alliance 
security. In addition to strategic forces, the United States forward 
deploys nuclear weapons to Europe. These weapons, combined with U.S. 
and Allied dual-capable aircraft and supporting infrastructure, 
demonstrate Alliance cohesion and resolve. NATO continues to adapt its 
nuclear posture to ensure these capabilities remain credible, 
resilient, and adaptable. USEUCOM supports modernization and 
recapitalization of our nuclear forces. Sustained congressional funding 
for these programs demonstrates commitment to our operations and NATO 
solidarity.
    USEUCOM conducts activities in the information environment to 
promote both deterrence and assurance, contest Russian malign 
narratives, and build resilience among foreign audiences to counter 
disinformation. We coordinate with interagency and regional partners to 
execute targeted messaging activities in NDS-prioritized countries. 
USEUCOM leverages industry-leading assessment techniques to monitor and 
analyze malign foreign influence across the AOR, including tracking 
areas where Russian and PRC narratives converge. The Russia Influence 
Group, co-led by USEUCOM and the State Department, is a key enabler of 
our Information Operations and focuses on countering Russian malign 
influence. Through the Russia Influence Group, we synchronize United 
States Government efforts to challenge adversary malign narratives and 
disinformation. Congressional funding enables several efforts for 
unique cybersecurity and hybrid warfare programs (i.e., electromagnetic 
warfare, special operations, and operations in the information 
environment) through the State Department's Countering Russian 
Influence Fund--Foreign Military Financing. USEUCOM continues to work 
across Allies and partners to build capability and capacity to gain 
better understanding and deliver effects in the information 
environment.
    Special Operations Command Europe (SOCEUR) provides a persistent 
special operations presence throughout Europe that works with European 
Allies and partners to build capacity; identify, attribute, and counter 
malign activity; and improve resilience. SOCEUR leads and participates 
in bilateral and multilateral exercises to improve interoperability 
with Allies, build partner capacity and resilience, and strengthen 
deterrence messaging. AOR-wide exercises like TROJAN FOOTPRINT set 
conditions for better integration between SOF and conventional forces 
during combined, joint, and multi-domain warfare. Our Special 
Operations personnel also provide invaluable sensing capabilities in 
the operational environment, which enhances our ability to deter 
through indications and warnings. Our SOF delivers exquisite 
capabilities that provide unique options to counter malign activity and 
increase our Allies' and partners' resilience.
    Our Joint Interagency Counter Trafficking Center supports whole-of-
government efforts to combat Russian malign activities by assisting 
Federal law enforcement activities. USEUCOM leverages a range of 
interagency-driven efforts--criminal investigations, convictions, 
seizures, sanctions, and designations through these programs. These 
actions help vulnerable Allies and partners resist Russia's malign 
activity, reinforce the rule of law, and strengthen self-governance 
without Russian influence. We appreciate Congress and the Department 
for the continued support of the counter-narcotics funding that 
supports this activity.
Strengthen Alliance Interoperability
    NATO's approved strategic framework for Deterrence and Defense of 
the Euro-Atlantic Area, abbreviated as ``DDA'', has sparked the largest 
transformation of the Alliance's military in the post-cold war period. 
DDA resets the Alliance for Collective Defense after two decades of 
out-of-area deployments by our Allies. Domain-specific plans are being 
developed to better organize Alliance forces for multi-domain 
collective defense against Russia and terror groups. DDA also calls for 
geographic-specific regional plans to describe how and where the 
Alliance will defend. These plans together will drive force structure 
and readiness requirements--the first time in over 30 years that the 
Alliance will have an objective, plans-based guide for national defense 
investments.
    The Alliance continues to invest in critical military capabilities 
contributing to collective defense and support. For the past 7 years, 
Allies have increased their total defense spending, and future 
projections remain positive. Although munitions stocks have decreased 
with donations to Ukraine, Allies and partners are increasing 
interoperable combat power through major acquisitions. These 
acquisitions include cyber capabilities; M1 Abrams and Patriot missiles 
in Poland; fourth and fifth-generation aircraft in Belgium, Bulgaria, 
Germany, Finland, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Slovakia, and 
Switzerland; Patriot air defense batteries in Switzerland and Sweden; 
and High Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS) capability in 
Romania, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. Ultimately, these 
capabilities are the key to combat credibility. Going forward, national 
governments will face competing priorities, but the importance of the 
capabilities required for collective defense cannot be overstated.
    Military exercises with Allies develop NATO's interoperability and 
remain essential elements of deterrence. USEUCOM deployed assigned Army 
forces to the Eastern Flank during exercises Saber Strike, Swift 
Response, and Defender beginning in February 2022. United States 
marines trained alongside 26 militaries during Cold Response in Norway 
to enhance NATO's ability to operate in cold environments in March 
2022. USEUCOM deployed naval forces to the Baltics Sea to train on 
maritime security operations during exercise BALTOPS in June 2022. 
Additionally, enhancements to multinational information sharing systems 
enable our coordination with our Allies and partners. These exercises 
provide a key deterrent effect in our dynamic security environment and 
demonstrate Alliance combined and joint interoperability.
    The proposed increase in funding for the Joint Training, Exercise, 
and Evaluation Program (JTEEP), both in the near-term and across the 
Future Years Defense Program (FYDP), are a key enabler of USEUCOM 
campaigning. USEUCOM's joint exercise program integrates advanced 
capabilities, demonstrates freedom of maneuver, and increases 
interoperability with our Allies and partners to showcase the 
Alliance's strength. Additional JTEEP resources allow USEUCOM more 
flexibility to campaign, enhance integrated deterrence, and demonstrate 
United States commitment to Euro-Atlantic security.
    USEUCOM participation in NATO operations directed by the North 
Atlantic Council demonstrates U.S. commitment to the Alliance. The U.S. 
``dual hatted'' the United States Army Europe-Africa Commander as 
Commander, NATO LANDCOM. This change allows for seamless Transfer of 
Authority of United States Forces in support of NATO operations. United 
States ground forces are serving in Battle Groups in Poland, Hungary, 
Slovakia, Romania, and Bulgaria. United States Air Forces in Europe 
support NATO Enhanced Air Policing and Icelandic Air Surveillance 
missions to safeguard the sovereignty of Allied airspace against 
Russian incursions. A U.S. Navy Rear Admiral has commanded Standing 
NATO Maritime Group Two, with attached United States naval 
capabilities, to counter challenges in the Atlantic, Mediterranean, and 
the Baltic Sea since July 2022. Operation ATLANTIC SENTRY--conducted by 
U.S. Aegis destroyers based in Rota, Spain and the Aegis Ashore system 
in Romania--provides the foundation of NATO's ballistic missile defense 
(BMD) capability. Participating in NATO operations demonstrates USEUCOM 
leadership and commitment to the Alliance.
    Additionally, rotational Army, Marine, and Special Operations 
Forces (SOF) further demonstrate United States commitment to NATO 
interoperability. These forces work alongside Allies and partners to 
deter aggression, counter malign activities, build host nation defense 
capabilities, and enhance interoperability. In Eastern Europe, three 
rotational Brigade Combat Teams and a Combat Aviation Brigade lead land 
force efforts to support Atlantic Resolve. Deliberate deployments of 
United States Marines to Norway reinforce the Alliance's northern 
periphery and provides exceptional training opportunities. Force 
commitments outside USEUCOM assigned forces enhance deterrence and hone 
the Alliance's warfighting skills.
Fortify Alliances and Partnerships
    Europe and the United States remain the foundation for upholding a 
free and open international order. The shared ideals, values, and 
longstanding relationships we have in Europe strengthen integrated 
deterrence and enable worldwide operations in support of shared 
national interests. USEUCOM's unique geographic location enables global 
operations, including U.S. interagency and multinational operations. We 
work within a whole-of-government framework to maintain essential 
access, basing, and overflight permissions under bilateral agreements 
and resist Russian and PRC strategic investment. These agreements 
enable the United States to protect our vital national interests and 
meet treaty obligations.
    Allies and partners bolster U.S. initiatives through national 
contributions and provide critical host nation support to U.S. Forces 
operating across the region. Allies and partners contribute forces to 
ongoing NATO and United States-led coalition missions in order to 
advance our common interests in Kosovo, Iraq, and Syria. Allies 
underwrite infrastructure investments and defray costs of United States 
military construction through the NATO Security Investment Program. The 
EU, in consultation with NATO, committed to invest 1.69 billion euros 
over the next 7 years for civilian and military dual-use transportation 
infrastructure improvements. This infrastructure investment will 
enhance military mobility, increase individual nations' crisis 
response, and improve Alliance combat capability. Our Allies and 
partners continue to be critical in supporting USEUCOM while we defend 
United States interests in Europe.
    U.S. National Guard forces maintain vibrant relationships and 
unique access with Allies and partners through the State Partnership 
Program (SPP). USEUCOM now has 25 active programs with the addition of 
the Cyprus--New Jersey and Norway--Minnesota partnerships. The SPP 
conducts over 500 engagements a year in USEUCOM's AOR. These 
engagements cultivate regional expertise, strengthen personal 
relationships and improve readiness across the AOR. Programs such as 
the Black Sea Maritime Domain Awareness Initiative and enhancing Baltic 
Integrated Air and Missile Defense represent potent, regionally focused 
components of a resilient theater posture developed from SPP 
relationships.
    The accession of Finland and potentially Sweden to NATO would 
represent the most significant expansion of the Alliance since the 
1990's. The United States Senate backed the expansion by an 
overwhelming 95-1 vote and President Biden signed instruments of 
ratification endorsing Finland and Sweden's accession. Finland's 
accession to NATO brings added capabilities and experience to the 
Alliance, and so would Sweden's. The United States and Sweden have a 
long history together in training, bilateral and multilateral security 
cooperation, and operations. USEUCOM recognizes the significant 
capability this Nation would bring to NATO and we look forward to 
deeper planning and coordination in the future.
                               conclusion
    United States leadership in Europe remains indispensable, and our 
commitment to NATO ensures the Alliance continues to serve as the 
foundation of Transatlantic security. Russia remains a chronic threat 
to European security despite its losses in Ukraine. Nevertheless, the 
West is more united than it has been in years. We have demonstrated our 
commitment to European stability through our collective support to 
Ukraine in response to Russia's brutal war of aggression. Maintaining 
an all-domain combat credible United States presence in Europe is the 
foundation of our deterrence of Russia, strengthens Alliance 
interoperability, and supports NATO's collective defense.
    The PRC also challenges Transatlantic security. The PRC aims to 
supplant the rules-based international order to suit its interests and 
authoritarian preferences. Such efforts threaten enduring United 
States, Allied, and partner interests, security, and values in Europe. 
PRC investment in critical infrastructure, and acquisitions in emerging 
technology sectors, allows access to our Allies and partners and 
provides the PRC a military capacity that places United States and 
Alliance interests in the AOR at risk. USEUCOM, alongside our Allies 
and partners, will continue to resist the PRC's malign influence and 
activity to preserve a secure, prosperous, and free Europe.
    We appreciate Congress' active engagement and support to address 
these challenges through funding and authorities. European Deterrence 
Initiative-associated investments supported the United States response 
to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The United States reinforced NATO 
members' security more quickly than any other Ally because of our 
forward presence, repositioning of theater forces, and prepositioned 
stocks. Your continued support for our posture investments in Europe, 
the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, Presidential Drawdown 
Authority, Foreign Military Sales and Financing, and International 
Security Cooperation Programs remains critical to USEUCOM's strategy. 
These authorities and funding enhance U.S. and NATO and strengthen our 
ability to respond in crisis or conflict. Together with the soldiers, 
sailors, airmen, marines, guardians, coast guardsmen, civilians, and 
defense contractors of USEUCOM, your support demonstrates our Nation's 
continued commitment to defend the Homeland and protect the peace for 
the one billion people living in the Euro-Atlantic region.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Cavoli. General 
Van Ovost, your statement, please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL JACQUELINE D. VAN OVOST, USAF COMMANDER, 
              UNITED STATES TRANSPORTATION COMMAND

    General Van Ovost. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, good morning. It is my 
honor to join you today with my Senior Enlisted Leader, Fleet 
Master Chief Donald Myrick, to represent the m]en and women of 
United States Transportation Command as we defend the Nation, 
take care of our people, and succeed through teamwork.
    I am extremely proud of our team of logistics professionals 
who lead the joint deployment and distribution enterprise, 
continually exceed expectations, and ensure hope, deterrence, 
and victory are assured as we contribute to our Nation's 
defense.
    From competition to crisis, the entire enterprise proudly 
delivers for our Nation, our allies, and our partners. We know 
our success in the European theater and beyond would not be 
possible without the steadfast support of this Committee and 
the whole of Congress.
    To maintain the unrivaled strategic advantage, to project 
and sustain the Joint Force over global distances through 
natural disasters, pandemics, conflicts, peace and war, while 
defending our Homeland, we must preserve our logistical 
dominance.
    Our organic fleet, along with our commercial transportation 
partners, must continue to present credible deterrence and 
requires proactive efforts to recapitalize and modernize. My 
highest concerns lie in reductions in capacity and readiness in 
both sealift and air refueling. We are a generation late in 
recapitalizing already sealift fleet to meet our national 
objectives.
    The average age of our 44 roll on, roll off ships we use to 
surge from the Continental United States is 44 years old. In 
fact, 17 of the 44 ships are 50 years or older. TRANSCOM 
supports the Navy's strategy to acquire used sealift vessels 
from the commercial market, and further request to provide 
Secretary of Defense discretionary authority to purchase 
foreign built used ships under favorable market conditions 
without limitation on number.
    I greatly appreciate your support for stabilized funding 
toward our sealift recapitalization effort, and I am heartened 
by the current progress on the first five ships. We have also 
taken steps to address the department's shortfall in meeting 
wartime fuel delivery demands and the vulnerable position of 
continued reliance on the use of foreign flagged, foreign crude 
tanker vessels.
    We are working with MARAD [Maritime Administration] to 
implement the tanker security program, which will provide 
assured access to U.S. flag tankers and begin to reduce risk in 
sealift tanker capacity. In addition to the tanker security 
program, we fully support the Maritime Security Program, the 
Jones Act, and cargo preference that all work together to 
ensure we have the necessary U.S. flag capability and U.S. 
mariners during peacetime, and ready to move sensitive defense 
materials during a national emergency.
    In every domain, American workers are critical to the Joint 
Force transportation and logistics. In particular, maritime 
stakeholders have been experiencing challenges with recruiting 
and retaining mariners. We support MARAD and industry efforts 
to identify strategies that address the Mariners shortage and 
ensure their readiness.
    In the air, the air refueling fleet is the backbone of 
rapid global mobility and is our most stressed capability. 
TRANSCOM supports the Air Force's continued efforts toward 
focused modernization of the fleet, uninterrupted tanker 
recapitalization, and accelerated pursuit of the next 
generation air refueling system to ensure our capacity and 
readiness remains credible to cover simultaneous global 
requirements.
    Future operations will also require high degrees of 
battlespace awareness and leveraging data to align scarce 
mobility resources with the greatest strategic needs. 
Integration into battle networks, resourcing cryptographic 
modernization, cybersecurity, and ensuring resilient 
positioning, navigation, and timing are among my top 
priorities.
    Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act 
expires at the end of this year, which provides essential and 
irreplaceable insights on the activities of critical foreign 
targets. The loss of this authority, or renewal and diminished 
or unusable form would profoundly damage the department's 
ability to see and mitigate some of the most profound threats 
against the United States and our allies and partners.
    Therefore, reauthorization is a matter of utmost priority. 
Just as we are engaged globally in our flagship 
transformational effort, the global household goods contract 
will bring accountability that does not exist in the current 
program of dispersed vendors. We owe it to our members and 
their families to ensure that they have the very best 
relocation experience that we can provide.
    I am honored to join General Cavoli today, where we are in 
lockstep to provide critical aid to enable Ukraine's national 
defense that in turn delivers success for the United States, 
our allies, and our Nation. I would like to thank you once 
again for your leadership and for the support you provide our 
workforce, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of General Jacqueline D. Van Ovost 
follows:]

         Prepared Statement by General Jacqueline D. Van Ovost
                        who we are--our mission
    U.S. Transportation Command's (USTRANSCOM) enduring purpose is to 
project and sustain combat power whenever and wherever our Nation 
chooses. Within the ever-changing strategic and operational landscape, 
our logistics and mobility enterprise continue to play an integral role 
in assuring our Nation's defense as well as provide our national 
leadership strategic advantage. We must ensure the Joint Force can 
defend the Nation, take care of our people, and succeed through 
teamwork. To deter and win, the 2022 National Defense Strategy (NDS) 
directs the Future Joint Force to be lethal, resilient, sustainable, 
survivable, agile, and responsive.
    As one of eleven combatant commands, our warfighting team is a 
diverse force, comprised of our component commands, subordinate 
commands, interagency and commercial partners of the broader Joint 
Deployment and Distribution Enterprise (JDDE). The entire enterprise 
works together to move the right capabilities to the right place, at 
the right time. Our assigned Unified Command Plan responsibilities are 
executed through three component commands (U.S. Army's Military Surface 
Deployment and Distribution Command, U.S. Navy's Military Sealift 
Command, and U.S. Air Force's Air Mobility Command), and two major 
subordinate commands (Joint Enabling Capabilities Command [JECC], and 
the Joint Transportation Reserve Unit). Our key mobility mission areas 
include sealift, strategic seaports, air refueling, airlift, 
aeromedical evacuation, domestic rail, and motor and barge freight. The 
JDDE operates as a Total Force, harnessing the unique skills of Active 
Duty, Reserve, National Guard, Merchant Marine, and civilian teammates 
who are vital to our ability to bolster warfighting readiness.
    The Department of Defense's (DOD) ability to project military 
forces is inextricably linked to commercial industry. Our industry 
partners provide critical transportation capacity and global networks 
to meet day-to-day and wartime requirements. Annually, USTRANSCOM 
spends approximately eight billion dollars in organic and commercial 
transportation services to execute DOD mission requirements. USTRANSCOM 
also partners with other U.S. Government Departments and Agencies, such 
as the U.S. Department of State, U.S. Department of Transportation 
(DOT), especially the Maritime Administration (MARAD) as they operate 
and maintain the government-owned sealift fleet. We also partner with 
the Federal Highway Administration within the DOT, the Defense 
Logistics Agency (DLA), the General Services Administration, and other 
key logistics partners who provide the funding for deployment and 
distribution operations. These partners also establish the policies 
which guide our efforts and are also customers of the Defense 
Transportation System.
    USTRANSCOM has assumed the role as the DOD's single manager for 
Global Bulk Fuel Management and Delivery. This mission represents a 
different approach to managing bulk fuel within the JDDE, synchronizing 
a complex system-of-systems to achieve unity of effort. Partnering with 
DLA's capability and expertise, USTRANSCOM will synchronize posture, 
planning, execution, and provide advocacy for capabilities and 
resources to meet the energy needs of the Joint Force in competition 
and conflict. In accordance with Section 352 of the fiscal year 2022 
National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), USTRANSCOM achieved initial 
operating capability in February. We expect to achieve full operational 
capability by the end of fiscal year 2024.
                  where we are--strategic environment
    Strategic competition is a reality today, and the JDDE's 
competitors are maneuvering fluidly between conventional and gray-zone 
activities. Mobility obstacles are encountered at every step in the 
deployment and distribution process, from the Homeland to the 
destination. Over 85 percent of the Joint Force is in the Continental 
U.S., and our competitors are on a trajectory that will present 
persistent threats across multiple domains simultaneously. Since 2018, 
we have acknowledged that the Homeland is not a sanctuary. Our 
adversaries conduct espionage and malign influence campaigns, leverage 
public investment and state-owned enterprise activities, and utilize 
cyber and space-based capabilities to gain access to, obtain placement 
within, and to target U.S. national security interests--including the 
JDDE and associated dependencies. Adversarial diplomatic, information, 
commercial, and economic threats are now also complemented with their 
increased long-range kinetic-denial capabilities. If these threats are 
not mitigated, our power projection capabilities will be put at further 
risk and the mobility enterprise will be forced to ``fight to get to 
the fight.''
    The President's National Security Strategy (NSS) makes clear that 
the People's Republic of China (PRC) and Russia are working 
aggressively to undermine democracy and export a model of governance 
marked by repression at home and coercion abroad. In their own ways, 
both seek to erode the legitimacy of established international norms 
and laws that have persisted for almost a century. Geopolitically, the 
PRC remains our most consequential pacing challenge; followed closely 
by Russia, an acute threat. Other persistent threats including North 
Korea, Iran, and violent extremist organizations are developing or 
acquiring new capabilities and pursuing strategies that could challenge 
our ability to deploy and sustain the Joint Force.
    Furthermore, strategic competitors such as the PRC continue to 
leverage their economic position to diminish United States influence 
and present increased risk to access, basing, and overflight (ABO) 
across the globe. Regional instability in places such as Africa, the 
Middle East, and Latin America, as well as transborder issues like 
natural disasters and pandemics, will continue to challenge the Joint 
Force and drive requirements for USTRANSCOM support. The JDDE is 
accustomed to sustaining forward-deployed forces across largely 
uncontested environments.Logistics realities are changing and the JDDE 
cannot presume it will enjoy similar freedom of maneuver and execute 
operations with full access to our lines of communication on the 
ground, in the air, at sea, and in space. Our ability to project, 
maneuver, connect, and sustain are critical capabilities for the Joint 
Force. The supporting infrastructure must be protected and strengthened 
to achieve our National Security goals.
    The JDDE must accelerate the momentum it has generated to meet 
these challenges. We cannot rest on past successes, nor cede an 
advantage to our competitors. Our Nation's strategic network of Allies 
and partners provides capacity, logistical capabilities, intelligence, 
and ABO agreements that empower the U.S. to successfully compete 
against global challenges. The command's ABO permissions are the 
lifeblood of global mobility and must be nurtured. Access, basing, and 
overflight is not guaranteed, can change anytime, and can even be 
denied for humanitarian assistance. Assured access to and through 
foreign nations is accomplished through sustained engagement and 
agreements with our Allies and partners.
    This network of Allies and partners enables assured force 
projection and freedom of maneuver, reducing the challenges associated 
with maintaining operational reach over extended distances. The JDDE 
relies on the diverse and expansive capacity of global infrastructure, 
both government-owned and commercially owned and operated, to deliver 
an immediate force tonight and a decisive force when needed. We must 
also be cognizant of impacts that transnational issues, such as climate 
change, have on our readiness. We will make our supporting systems more 
resilient and agile in the face of transnational threats to preserve 
operational capability and protect key systems. The collective 
influence of our enterprise and Nation to shape the strategic 
environment can provide competitive advantage, senior leadership 
decision space, and complicate the decision matrix of any potential 
adversary.
                           where we are going
    For decades, most transportation and logistics activities were 
conducted in uncontested environments; clearly the strategic 
environment has changed. We must grow our capabilities to ensure that 
logistics never becomes the weak link. We will set the conditions for a 
strategic environment where the JDDE can project and sustain the Joint 
Force, at a time and place of the Nation's choosing, under persistent, 
all domain attack. While our competitors are not invincible, the 
threats are real and the imperative to change is urgent. This decisive 
decade demonstrates the importance of the NDS's priorities of defending 
the U.S. Homeland; deterring strategic attacks against the U.S., 
Allies, and partners; deterring aggression and being prepared to 
prevail and building a resilient Joint Force and defense ecosystem. 
USTRANSCOM's capabilities will be the engine that propels the NDS by 
underwriting the lethality of the Joint Force ensuring the viability of 
deterrence operations and providing our national leadership with 
strategic flexibility. The command will enable our national priorities 
through the NDS's strategic ways of Integrated Deterrence, Campaigning, 
and Building Enduring Advantages.
    By nesting our strategic priorities and campaign objectives within 
the NDS framework, USTRANSCOM is focused on ensuring the JDDE is ready 
and effectively postured to accomplish its mission when called upon. 
Integrated deterrence is predicated on making the adversary doubt they 
can achieve their objective. This relies on USTRANSCOM's readiness to 
fight, deliver, and win through our global mobility posture. USTRANSCOM 
force posture will focus on the access and warfighting requirements 
that enable our Nation's efforts to deter potential PRC and Russian 
aggression. Strengthening relationships with Allies, partners, and 
commercial industry will expand ABO options, thus creating positional 
advantage across all domains. When used in concert, posture and 
capacity provide a true asymmetric and strategic advantage for the 
Nation.
    Our active campaigning includes the Globally Integrated Exercise, 
Pacific Sentry, Air Mobility Command's Exercise Mobility Guardian 2023, 
and other joint exercises that put a premium on closing operational 
gaps to strengthen deterrence and develop new concepts to prevail. Our 
efforts to recapitalize mobility fleets, modernize systems, and employ 
new operational concepts will enhance enterprise capabilities that we 
can deploy rapidly in time and space. Large-scale exercises, fleet 
readiness activations, and focused wargames will enhance 
interoperability and trust across the Joint Force, with Allies, 
partners, and the commercial industry. For example, in preparation for 
standing up the Tanker Security Program (TSP), Military Sealift Command 
initiated a wargame series with MARAD, labor, and other industry 
stakeholders to better understand their capabilities and ability to 
expand and meet the bulk fuel demand at time of need.
    Building enduring advantages begins by addressing critical 
vulnerabilities. Investing in and hardening a resilient defense 
ecosystem will strengthen our commercial and military transportation 
networks across multiple domains, especially space and cyber. We expect 
disruption in our operations and are focused on cyber mission assurance 
and digital modernization to ensure our ability to conduct globally 
integrated command and control and to generate decision advantage. With 
significant volumes of data and advanced analytics, we expect to 
posture efficiently, recover quickly, and accelerate the application of 
our capacity.
    Finally, our people will make the difference between victory and 
defeat. We continue to develop our warfighting team with a competitive 
mindset and acknowledge the challenges present today. By embracing the 
imperative to be ready now and in the future, our people understand the 
mission and are continually adapting to maintain our Nation's 
competitive advantage in power projection.
              how we will get there--warfighting framework
    USTRANSCOM is focused on shaping and directing the capabilities and 
concepts necessary to operate in the future contested environment, 
which includes multi-modal solutions for transloading cargo, fuel, and 
personnel, including patients, between commercial and military capacity 
and delivering the last 1,000 tactical miles in a contested 
environment. Our analysis goes beyond the mobility platforms and 
integrates key warfighting functions, current wartime demands, and 
future concepts entailing maneuver and distributed operations. We have 
advanced significantly in our analytic framework to better conduct 
globally integrated mobility operations and the synchronization of our 
Global Mobility Posture, Global Mobility Capacity, and Global Command, 
Control, and Integration. These critical elements create USTRANSCOM's 
warfighting framework through which we carry out our missions.
Global Mobility Posture
    Global Mobility Posture is the foundation of our ability to project 
power. It starts here at home, with installations and infrastructure, 
such as ports, highways, railways, and pipelines to mobilize and deploy 
forces. The ability to leverage a global distributed and scalable 
logistics network is highly dependent on our deep bench of 
diplomatically aligned Allies and partners. Their support, garnered 
through diplomacy and combatant commander relationship building, 
secures the critical ABO that enable our freedom of maneuver. This 
requires a whole-of-government approach, including commercial industry 
efforts, to solidify and amplify our established nodes and routes. 
These dense layers of contacts and contracts--military and commercial--
are critical to our ability to set the globe. They also enable regional 
agreements that expand the availability of critical resources in remote 
locations, especially fuel. The command has already initiated a 
campaign to close gaps in the Joint Petroleum Enterprise and implement 
storage and distribution improvements in priority theaters.
    We must expand and strengthen our global transportation networks to 
facilitate our ability to aggregate force packages to fight during 
periods of domain superiority, and then disaggregate to survive. We 
will continue to expand access and protect our lines of communication 
through the collaborative pursuit of technologies to improve the 
agility and flexibility of the JDDE, while also advocating for key 
infrastructure investments. USTRANSCOM supports the Services' efforts 
to invest and improve the Nation's overseas airbase and seaport defense 
as well as protection measures for our lines of communication. While we 
don't own protection forces, we advocate in conjunction with other 
Combatant Commands and Services to ensure our equities are not at 
unacceptable risk, thereby ensuring the success of our operations.
    To successfully execute our deployment mission, USTRANSCOM also 
relies on a collection of both DOD and commercially owned U.S. 
Strategic Seaports. The primary mission of the Strategic Seaport 
Program is to ensure DOD has access to sufficient seaport 
infrastructure to meet the Nation's objectives. Military Ocean Terminal 
Concord (MOTCO), on the West Coast, is the sole strategic ammunition 
seaport that serves the Indo-Pacific area of operation. The Department 
has made appropriate and significant investments in MOTCO to replace 
failing infrastructure and is endeavoring to acquire and install two 
ship-to-shore cranes to preserve the ability to meet ammunition 
demands. At Military Ocean Terminal Sunny Point (MOTSU) on the East 
Coast, major enabling infrastructure components including the 
operational wharfs are ammunition throughput requirements. We continue 
to work with the Department of the Army to preserve and modernize both 
seaports by securing and applying resources to reduce risk and prevent 
capability gaps.
    USTRANSCOM assesses that our Nation's infrastructure is currently 
capable of supporting military transportation requirements, but we must 
continue necessary investment to keep it that way. The recently passed 
Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act presents opportunities to 
reinforce and modernize strategic components of our national 
transportation system and increase resiliency. Through the established 
Highways, Railroads and Ports for National Defense Programs, USTRANSCOM 
will continue to proactively engage both civil and private sector 
partners to address identified concerns and challenges.
Global Mobility Capacity
    Global Mobility Capacity includes sealift, air refueling, airlift, 
aeromedical evacuation, rail, motor transport, bulk fuel, and the 
ability to fully mobilize the Total Force at the time and point of 
need. When necessary, we can rapidly increase capacity through our 
emergency preparedness programs, which include the Civil Reserve Air 
Fleet (CRAF), Voluntary Intermodal Sealift Agreement (VISA), and 
Voluntary Tanker Agreement (VTA). All our available capacity, including 
emergency preparedness programs, must continue to represent a credible 
option for delivering fuel, munitions, personnel, evacuating patients, 
and materiel--regardless of the environment. The JDDE relies on an 
integrated and balanced approach between government-owned and 
commercial capacity at a tempo necessary to achieve national end 
states, and in tight coordination with interagency partners, the Joint 
Staff, Services, other combatant commands, and our commercial partners.
Global Command, Control, and Integration
    Our third warfighting element, Global Command, Control, and 
Integration is of high concern because the exercise of authority and 
direction to plan, coordinate, synchronize, and control operations at 
echelon is critical to our success. We need platforms that are securely 
connected and have an appropriate level of battlespace awareness to 
align scarce mobility resources with the highest strategic needs. Cyber 
mission assurance and digital modernization will enable our ability to 
conduct globally integrated command and control and generate decision 
advantage for leadership. To do so, we must begin by treating data as a 
strategic asset which is why we are committed to becoming a data-driven 
organization with the capabilities, tools, and culture to gather and 
analyze data to inform better business and operational decisions.
    Our military and commercial platforms will require integration into 
the battle networks, resourced cryptographic modernization, and a 
resilient Positioning, Navigation, and Timing ecosystem. We must be 
linked into the distributed command and control constructs and 
resources to identify and mitigate any adversary's malicious cyber 
activity against our networks and systems. Last year, we completed 
implementation of Zero Trust capabilities on our classified network, a 
cyber security framework that embeds security throughout the 
architecture to prevent malicious actors from accessing our most 
critical assets. We reached baseline maturity level, and we will 
continue to advance this initiative--especially in the unclassified 
environment.
    USTRANSCOM also partners with commercial transportation service 
providers to share threat information and best practices to ensure 
mission success. We work closely with the commercial transportation 
service providers to enforce cyber security standards in our contracts. 
Those cybersecurity standards are in place to safeguard defense 
information and call for annual assessments of their networks. We 
collaborate with interagency partners on information sharing and 
initiatives to ensure shared understanding of emerging threats and 
improve voluntary avenues to harden commercial networks.
    USTRANSCOM has embraced the 3-year DOD Artificial Intelligence and 
Data Accelerator Initiative to help improve the command's data posture 
and set the foundation for future advanced analytic opportunities. 
Building on lessons from Afghanistan and Ukraine, USTRANSCOM 
established a community space within Advana, dubbed Pegasus, to provide 
a data repository and analytic tools to modernize our analysis 
capabilities. This is the first crucial step in our utilization of 
advanced visualization, analytics, and machine learning capabilities to 
create decision advantage.
                             year in review
    In the last year, we once again demonstrated the positive impact a 
dedicated logistics combatant command can have on global operations. 
USTRANSCOM's logistical prowess remains on full display as we balance 
the rigors of our global mission, while ensuring Ukraine receives the 
aid necessary to defend their nation. In fiscal year 2022, USTRANSCOM 
delivered over 299,000 passengers and over 236,000 short tons (STONs) 
by airlift and over 11.6 million square feet of cargo by sealift.
    USTRANSCOM began delivering security assistance cargo for Ukraine 
in January 2022 and continues to deliver hope and aid to the Ukrainian 
people on an expedited basis. Since then, the command has delivered 
more than 377 million pounds (a/o 17 Mar 23) of security assistance 
equipment to Ukraine that is enabling critical success on the 
battlefield against the Russian force that invaded on February 24th of 
last year. Even while USTRANSCOM moved troops and security assistance 
to Europe, it continued to support operations and exercises around the 
globe.
    The command supported Operation FLY FORMULA and moved 76 STONs (47 
pallet position equivalents) of specialty infant formula from Europe to 
the United States during a severe shortage in May 2022.
    The command also supported USINDOPACOM's Exercises Iron Storm and 
Keen Sword by airlifting 1,052 servicemembers and 841 STONs of cargo. 
These large-scale events are a series of joint and bilateral field 
training exercises designed to increase combat readiness and 
interoperability between U.S. and Allied nations. USTRANSCOM also 
delivered 1,484 servicemembers and 93 STONs of cargo in support of 
Exercise Native Fury, a bilateral training exercise held with USCENTCOM 
and Saudi Armed Forces. The exercise enabled increased strategic access 
within the Trans-Arabian Transportation Network and refined our 
command-and-control processes.
    To enable an agile and effective planning process, USTRANSCOM 
deployed 278 communicators and planners from the Joint Enabling 
Capabilities Command in support of each combatant command, NATO, the 
Joint Staff, and numerous military and government organizations. These 
personnel deployed in support of defense support of civil authorities 
five times including support to COVID-19 response and Hurricanes Ida 
and Ian. Additionally, they answered the call 25 times in support of 
crises around the globe, including support to our USEUCOM partners in 
response to Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
    Throughout fiscal year 2022, USTRANSCOM conducted extensive global 
operations, delivering over 99.2 million gallons of fuel during air 
refueling missions, which resupplied over 56,000 receiver aircraft on 
over 26,000 missions (33,641 sorties). Furthermore, USTRANSCOM 
supported 40 bomber task force missions, reassuring our partners across 
all six theaters, and reminding adversaries how quickly we can project 
combat power. These missions in the Indo-Pacific displayed combat 
credibility and furthered multi-lateral integration, ABO efforts, and 
deterrence. USTRANSCOM also supported multiple fighter aircraft 
movements and intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance support 
missions for USINDOPACOM, USEUCOM, and USCENTCOM solidifying our global 
campaign plan and signaling support to our Allies.
    USTRANSCOM also created a fuel bridge and delivered 120,000 gallons 
of diesel fuel to sustain the United States Embassy and USAID 
operations in Haiti in response to the health and security crises on 
the island. Globally, USTRANSCOM safely conducted 5,381 patient 
movements.
               recapitalization and modernization efforts
    Proactive mobility recapitalization efforts are crucial for us to 
effectively operate in a future contested logistics environment. 
USTRANSCOM's assessment of mobility sufficiency under the NDS found our 
current mobility capacity sufficient, but at increased levels of risk 
due to our adversaries' focused and persistent efforts. Risk is further 
heightened by an erosion of readiness and capacity in key mobility 
areas.
Sealift
    Sealift is vital to delivering the decisive force. In wartime, 90 
percent of military cargo will be transported via sealift. The average 
age of the 44 Roll-on/Roll-off (RO/RO) ships we use to surge from the 
Continental U.S. is 44 years old. In fact, 17 of the 44 ships are 50 
years or older. Therefore, USTRANSCOM supports the Navy's strategy to 
recapitalize the government-owned fleet by acquiring foreign-built used 
sealift ships from the commercial market and further requests to 
provide the Secretary of Defense discretionary authority to purchase 
foreign built ships to expeditiously replace the aging ships under more 
favorable market conditions. This includes removing the overall limit 
on the number of used sealift vessels DOD can procure, sealift fleet to 
meet our national objectives.
    Working with MARAD, we have purchased two used RO/RO vessels and 
are in the process of purchasing three used roll-on/container ships 
with over one million useful square feet capacity. However, the process 
must be accelerated if we are to keep pace with the retirement 
schedule. To maintain sealift capacity and preserve sealift readiness, 
we are advocating to accelerate used vessel purchases and to reconsider 
the current retirement plan to retain a number of viable ships. 
Furthermore, we have taken steps to address the Department's shortfall 
in meeting wartime fuel delivery demands, and the vulnerable position 
of continued reliance on the use of foreign flag tankers. We are 
working jointly with MARAD to implement the Tanker Security Program 
(TSP). These efforts will provide assured access to U.S. flag tankers 
and begin to reduce risk in sealift tanker capacity. With the assured 
access provided by the 60-ship U.S. flag sealift vessel Maritime 
Security Program, and increased funding to preserve the operational 
readiness of the United States Government-owned ships in the Ready 
Reserve Force, we will bolster our ability to conduct operations at sea 
and meet DOD requirements with the most useful capacity while 
maintaining a U.S. flag presence in international trade. This capacity 
and global reach through integrated networks provided by our industry 
partners is critical when we consider a theater such as USINDOPACOM.
    The health of Merchant Mariner Readiness requires continued 
assessment to ensure an adequately trained supply to crew our surge 
fleet while minimizing impacts to commercial industry. The supply of 
contract mariners is sufficient to meet the initial sealift surge when 
government Reserve ships are activated but will be challenged with the 
ability to sustain crewing requirements over an extended period. The 
post-COVID recovery has highlighted significant workforce concerns to 
maritime stakeholders to include recruiting and retention.
    We are encouraged by MARAD's efforts to collaboratively identify 
issues, potential solutions, and support a whole-of-government approach 
to address this national security matter. We will employ Navy Reserve 
tactical advisors on commercial vessels and expand our consolidated 
cargo capability. This will include providing regular training 
opportunities to expand mariner proficiency in consolidated cargo 
operations and utilize multi-modal solutions to deliver across 
dispersed locations in compressed timelines.
Air Refueling
    The air refueling fleet is the backbone of rapid global mobility 
and the foundational component enabling the Nation's asymmetric 
advantage in global force projection. USTRANSCOM supports Air Force 
efforts to continue air refueling recapitalization and funding over the 
long term to replace aging aircraft and sustain fleet capacity while 
pursuing modernization. The September 2022 declaration of worldwide 
employability for the KC-46 aircraft placed us a step closer to being 
fully mission capable. Building depth of trained operators and 
maintainers to sustain sufficient daily and wartime capacity as units 
undergo conversion is critical as recapitalization continues.
    Credible air refueling capacity must simultaneously cover multiple 
high-priority global demands, which causes daily and wartime concerns 
within the air refueling fleet. USTRANSCOM's recent assessment of 
mobility sufficiency under the NDS indicates an inventory of 466 total 
aircraft as sufficient, but at elevated risk. When the last KC-46 on 
contract is accepted into the Air Force, the average age of the 
remaining KC-135s will be 67 years old, emphasizing the need for 
continued recapitalization and investment in the Next Generation 
Airdemand continues to emphasize the utility of comparably higher 
quantities of platforms to ensure sufficient quantities of booms and 
drogues are in the air at any given time to meet the significant number 
of simultaneous requirements. It is critical that the Air Force 
continues a full recapitalization program and invest in the NGAS to 
maintain credible capacity and provide the persistent connectivity, 
improved survivability, and increased agility necessary to operate in 
future contested environments.
Strategic Airlift
    The strategic airlift fleet remains vital to rapid global mobility, 
which the Joint Force relies on extensively to meet both daily 
competition and wartime demands. The three most recent DOD-level 
mobility studies have each validated our current capacity achieves 
strategic airlift requirements (30.5 million-ton-miles per day). Our 
ongoing efforts using a mix of organic and commercial capabilities to 
airlift time-sensitive aid to Ukraine, in largely uncontested 
environments, and the USEUCOM effort in support of our NATO allies 
illustrates this capability. The requirements to move outsized and 
oversized cargo early in future high-end conflicts underscores the 
demands for a sizable and healthy organic strategic airlift fleet to 
fulfill the requirements that the CRAF cannot. The C-5M aircraft is 
essential to these efforts and requires increased resourcing to achieve 
required readiness levels. The Joint Force's continued high demands for 
strategic airlift requires capable and ready fleets to ensure the U.S. 
maintains its asymmetric advantage in this critical area.
Intra-Theater Airlift
    C-130 aircraft provide airlift support necessary to operate within 
any theater to support a sizable, deployed force engaged in combat 
operations. This includes transload movement from commercial aircraft, 
and time-sensitive movement of forces, supplies, and battlefield 
aeromedical evacuation--all of which emphasize the need for tactical 
airlift capability. The USAF planned retirement of C-130H aircraft has 
reduced inventory from 300 total aircraft to 279 total aircraft in 
fiscal year 2022. The Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA allows for the divestment 
of eight C-130 aircraft in fiscal year 2023 to decrease the total 
aircraft inventory to 271 and then maintain a fleet of 271 total 
aircraft across the Future Years Defense Program, which USTRANSCOM 
supports at an elevated, but acceptable risk. Future Joint and Service 
operating concepts entail the maneuvering of forces across broad 
distances via airlift and sustaining of forces across broadly 
distributed operating locations, which elevates demands for theater 
lift.
Patient Movement
    The importance of our Patient Movement enterprise cannot be 
overstated. The casualty evacuation requirements in current planning 
scenarios demonstrate the same number of patients evacuated in all of 
2022 will likely require evacuation every week during a future near-
peer conflict. USTRANSCOM will continue to align the Patient Movement 
enterprise within the command's warfighting framework to support 
command authorities, scale forces, develop innovative capabilities, and 
posture scarce aeromedical evacuation mobility resources globally to 
conduct patient movement in support of the highest strategic 
priorities. The future of patient movement depends on in-theater 
treatment capacity, expanding access to Allies' and partners' regional 
hospitals, improved surface and air options, innovative training to 
meet future casualty stream requirements, and development of effective 
and efficient multi-modal patient movement platforms.
Defense Personal Property Program (DP3)
    Our Defense Personal Property Program (DP3) team is moving forward 
on transforming how DOD provides moving services to customers. 
Servicemembers, DOD civilians and their families are our most critical 
asset, and we continually seek to improve our DP3 processes through all 
venues possible. There are multiple initiatives in work to transform 
and improve the Department's relocation program with the Global 
Household Goods Contract (GHC) being our flagship DP3 reform effort. 
With the November 2022 Court of Federal Claims' (COFC) decision to 
uphold the contract award to HomeSafe Alliance, our work on the GHC 
transition has officially resumed in full force. GHC will bring the 
biggest reform to how we move our servicemembers and families in the 
history of the program.
    Our coordination with HomeSafe Alliance, the Services, and the DOD 
professionals who provide counseling to our servicemembers and families 
is underway and we are gaining momentum. The GHC is expected to deliver 
quality, on-time packing, shipping, and delivery of customers' 
household goods through improved centralized management of the DOD's 
approximately 310,000 annual household goods shipments. It 
fundamentally restructures our relationship with the household goods 
moving industry to deliver the quality servicemembers and their 
families deserve with the accountability Congress demands. We are 
currently working to refine a measured, conditions-based phase-in of 
domestic shipments after the 2023 peak moving season beginning in 
September. International household goods and accompanied baggage 
shipments transitions will follow and move under GHC in 2024. We owe it 
to our customers to ensure they have the best relocation experience the 
enterprise can provide, and that remains our focus.
                               conclusion
    To remain successful, USTRANSCOM must be ready to project power 
today and tomorrow, and we will only achieve this together. Recent 
successes in Operation ALLIES REFUGE and delivery of substantial aid to 
Ukraine have validated our reputation and generated momentum. While we 
have achieved success over our 35-year history as a combatant command, 
we know we must continue to innovate and accelerate the changes 
necessary to remain ready now and into the future. We cannot rest on 
our laurels--the risks are too great. Our competitors are watching our 
every move and quickly digesting lessons learned to improve their own 
power projection capabilities while also enhancing their ability to 
disrupt, degrade, or deny our capabilities. Contested logistics 
highlights that our actions to deliberately recapitalize organic 
mobility capabilities, and to modernize the JDDE, must continue for the 
DOD to maintain asymmetric advantages and deliver on our national 
security requirements.
    Our command has always met challenges with innovation, 
determination, and professionalism to deliver success. Time after time, 
when our Nation called, we delivered. To deliver in the future requires 
focused attention today. Powered by dedicated men and women, USTRANSCOM 
underwrites the lethality of the Joint Force, advances American 
interests around the globe, and provides our Nation's leaders with 
strategic flexibility to select from multiple options, while creating 
multiple dilemmas for our adversaries. I thank Congress for your 
continued support to the men, women, and mission of USTRANSCOM. We 
remain dedicated to fight, deliver, and win!
    Together, We Deliver!

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Van Ovost. 
Senator Wicker has suggested that we proceed with questioning, 
and when he is called upon, he will have opportunity to submit 
his statement and also ask his questions.
    So let me begin. Both General Van Ovost and General Cavoli 
have absolutely critical positions. In fact, General Cavoli, 
the Ukrainian situation is the most pressing military situation 
in the world at the moment.
    Unfortunately, here in the Senate, we have reached an 
impasse in terms of the promotion of noncontroversial General 
officers on a routine basis, usually by unanimous consent. 
Could you indicate what effects this will have on your 
operational capacity, but also on the morale and personal 
dynamics of families?
    General Cavoli. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Yes, in an 
operational sense, if I have officers who are scheduled to 
retire, General officers who are scheduled to retire and do so, 
but I don't have somebody to replace them, I will suffer a gap 
in that. Some of those are in fairly critical positions right 
now.
    For example, the Chairman's military representative to the 
Military Committee, General John Diedrich, is scheduled to 
retire this summer. His replacement hasn't been confirmed so we 
would have a gap in the Chairman's representation at that rank 
at the Military Committee and NATO, which in my U.S. role is a 
vital connection between me and the Chairman to influence 
activities in NATO, and in my role as SACE, of course, it is 
very useful to have a line to the U.S. military representative. 
So that is one example, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you. General Ovost, your 
perceptions?
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, Chairman. Besides any 
operational impacts from not being able to rotate General 
officers into positions of significant responsibility, the 
United States Transportation Command is responsible for moving 
311,000 families every year around the globe.
    It is important to continue these movements so that the 
children can be enrolled in schools, they can find adequate 
housing, and ensure that they are ready to succeed in their new 
responsibilities.
    So, these delays add additional stress to our military 
families who already sacrifice enough.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General Van Ovost. 
General Cavoli, there has been some discussion about the 
relative contributions of NATO countries and other countries to 
this fight.
    If we look simply at the dimension of military equipment, 
military supplies, that is one measure. But overall, in terms 
of accepting refugees, in terms of supporting those refugees, 
the Kiel Institute has analyzed that total input and indicates 
that the U.S. would rank 12th in terms of the amount of GDP 
[gross domestic product], the 11 preceding countries are 
European countries.
    It raises the question of how important these contributions 
are to the battlefield, even though they don't represent 
military equipment or military advice.
    General Cavoli. Mr. Chairman, thanks for the opportunity to 
comment on this topic. So, first of all, the United States can 
and should be extremely proud of the quantity of aid that we 
have given and the leadership role we have taken. I think that 
is absolutely imperative to note up front.
    In gross numbers, I think it is very fair by whichever mode 
of calculation we arrive at a gross number, that the U.S. 
clearly is the leader. In terms of proportion, though, you are 
right. I mean, more than half a dozen allies have given 
greater--a greater share their GDP in military aid to the 
Ukrainians.
    I can't speak to all the other types of aid, but maybe I 
can give a couple of illustrations. Five hundred fourteen tanks 
have been given by the West to the Ukrainians in the past few 
months. None of them have come from the United States yet. Our 
Abrams won't get there until later in the year. Sixteen mid-
level or high-level air defense systems have been given.
    Two of those were given by the United States. So, there are 
some genuine donations. More than a third of our allies have 
given over half of their capacity in a given category to the 
Ukrainians. I would be reluctant to be really precise in 
public, but I would be delighted to be precise in closed 
session later today, if you would like, sir.
    Finally, in nonmilitary ways, there is a lot going on. Our 
allies have treated or are treating about 2,400 wounded, 
grievously wounded Ukrainians in their hospitals, largely in 
their national defense systems--national health systems. We 
have treated four at Landstuhl--so there are some genuine 
contributions being made, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Well, thank you very much, General. Let me 
recognize Senator Wicker. Thank you very much, both.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and I do ask 
unanimous consent that my opening statement be included after 
yours in the record.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    Senator Wicker. I thank the Chairman for bringing up the 
point about burden sharing. I think it is helpful to 
reemphasize the 5 million Ukrainian refugees that are being 
cared for by Europeans at some considerable cost, 1.5 million 
in Poland, 920,000 in Germany, 177,000 in the Baltic states, 
500,000 in the Czech Republic.
    I am glad to see the Chairman bring that up in his first 
round of questioning. I think one thing that could really harm 
public opinion here in the United States would be if we found 
that there was some corruption and siphoning off of money or 
weapons sold or donated by the United States.
    I had a chance to ask you about that earlier. But would you 
give us your take and any assurance that you could give us that 
our friends who are actually carrying the fight in Ukraine are 
mindful of this possibility and how serious it would be if it 
were to occur?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. Of course. First of 
all, just with the general statement, my colleagues, my 
interlocutors in Ukraine assure me that they understand how 
important this issue is to the American people, and I believe 
it is sincerely so.
    But as usual, military people put into action systems to 
try to verify things, so, we are doing enhanced end-use 
monitoring. If you would permit me, I would like to describe 
that for you for a second.
    Senator Wicker. Please do, yes.
    General Cavoli. The first thing we do is, whenever we 
receive U.S. equipment that is going to go into the country, it 
comes through one of a couple of ports of entry. The main one 
is in Southeastern Poland, and a number of the Members have 
visited there.
    At that location, we inventory everything by serial number 
so that we know exactly what is going into the country. A 
couple of months ago, about 6 months ago, we gave the Ukrainian 
military a NATO standard logistics tracking software system 
called LOGFAS [Logistics Functional Area Services]. It is what 
we use to track our own system.
    So, we ingest all of that inventory into LOGFAS, and then 
the Ukrainians use that to track and to distribute their 
equipment around the country, and we have access to that in 
real time. That helps us to a certain degree. But then, of 
course, once you get inside the country, we have a 
responsibility to go lay eyes on things and check them.
    That enhanced end use monitoring is done by the defense 
attache office in Kyiv, led by Brigadier General Garrick 
Harmon. They go out to sites and they inspect. They went to 
Odessa yesterday to inspect and to inventory, and they will go 
to another location next week as well.
    When they can't get to a location, they have barcodes 
placed on things and Ukrainians self-report by clicking on the 
barcode, and then we ingest that information into LOGFAS so we 
can track it as well.
    Senator Wicker. Perhaps you could supplement that answer on 
the record, but you have confidence that there are safeguards 
for our weapons and donations.
    General Cavoli. Yes, I do, Senator.
    Senator Wicker. General Van Ovost, we are not where we need 
to be at all in the Pacific, if conflict breaks out there, are 
we?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, we are not yet fully set in 
posture in the Indo-Pacific, I would agree.
    Senator Wicker. You mentioned on page 15 of your testimony, 
in particular the importance of the tanker security program. In 
your verbal testimony, you mentioned the importance of the 
Jones Act.
    Now, we are aware that in some circumstances the consumers 
pay more because of the Jones Act. But in a previous 
conversation with you, you were, I believe, very compelling in 
explaining why the Jones Act is so important to our national 
security in case conflict breaks out. If I might, Mr. Chairman, 
let General Van Ovost expand on that.
    General Van Ovost. Certainly, Senator. Thank you. The 
United States, we only have 85 U.S. flagged, U.S. crewed ships 
in international trade right now. We have less than 2 percent 
of the foreign trade that passes using U.S. flagged U.S. crewed 
ships.
    In other words, 98 percent foreign flagged. Is not enough 
for our national security. We have actually already reserve 
force because there is not enough U.S. flagged U.S. crewed 
shipping.
    It is very important that we have maritime security 
program, tanker security program, cargo preference laws, and 
the Jones Act to ensure that we keep U.S. flagged U.S. crewed 
vessels available for our national security needs.
    Senator Wicker. What if we didn't have those?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, if we didn't have those, we 
perhaps would have to grow our organic fleet of sealift ships 
requiring 100 percent of the burden being on the U.S. military.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you very much. Appreciate that.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman--Ranking Member. 
Senator Fischer, please.
    Senator Fischer. Shaheen.
    Chairman Reed. Shaheen, I am----
    Senator Shaheen. You know, I know we all look alike, but--
--
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Reed. No, Roger does not look at all like----
    Senator Wicker. Like a chairman perhaps----
    [Laughter.]
    Chairman Reed. No, it is just--I apologize. It is early, 
and my coffee has not yet taken hold. Forgive me. Senator 
Shaheen of New Hampshire.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you, 
General Cavoli and General Van Ovost for being here this 
morning and for your service. General Van Ovost, I would like 
to begin with you because in your opening statement, you talked 
about the stressed capacity of our air refueling and the 
importance of that.
    I know you have been to--we have been delighted to host you 
at the former Pease Air Force base where Pease Air National 
Guard 157th Air Refueling Wing has KC-46 tankers to do 
refueling.
    But can you talk about, when you talked about the stress 
capacity, how important the KC-46 is, and what else we need to 
do in order to address our needs?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, thank you. As I mentioned, our 
ability to project and sustain the force, the foundation of 
that is our air refueling capability.
    It makes us a global superpower. So, it is really critical 
that we continue to recapitalize the KC-135s and KC-10's with 
KC-46. I appreciate this Committee's support in continuing that 
recap and thinking about the next generation air refueling.
    As far as the KC-46, it brings new capabilities to the 
fight, capabilities we have not had previously. That aircraft 
is what I call connected to the battlespace. It can see 
battlespace maneuvers and it can assist the Joint Force in ways 
that we haven't even fully explored yet.
    So, it is a force multiplier. It can do probe and drogue as 
well as boom refueling, and it can receive and it can take on 
gas in flight. It is a multi-capable airplane and we intend to 
use it that way to augment the Joint Force.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. You also talked about the 
importance of section 702 in terms of intelligence gathering. 
Senator Budd and I were with a number of other Senators in 
Latin America a couple of weeks ago, and at every stop we heard 
about the importance of reauthorizing 702.
    Can you and General Cavoli both speak to what that allows 
us to do when we don't have people on the ground in terms of 
collecting information that we need?
    General Van Ovost. Yes, Senator. Signals intelligence is 
critical to my ability to understand the threats around the 
world, where they are moving to, what their intentions are, and 
how we can mitigate those threat. That is for the open session. 
I am happy to expound in a classified section.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you.
    General Cavoli. Senator, of course, a full answer is best 
done in closed session, but I can assure you that an enormous 
amount of the intelligence that I rely on in the current crisis 
is derived from the authorities under 702.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you both. I think, 
General Cavoli, this question is probably for you because we 
see Iran continuing to supply Russia with critical support in 
this war against Ukraine.
    There are reports now that Iran is providing artillery and 
ammunition to Ukraine as well as drones. Has that been 
confirmed and how are we working with our counterparts in 
CENTCOM to track and respond to that Iranian equipment? Also, 
are we seeing other countries provide weapons and ammunition to 
Russia as well?
    General Cavoli. First, more broadly, Senator, we see other 
countries considering it. We see precious few actually doing it 
right now, and we are gratified by that. But it is because of 
significant efforts on the part of the United States and our 
allies to discourage them.
    You have seen some of that in the open press. We can 
discuss some more in closed session. With regard to the Iranian 
threat specifically, we have seen and the Ukrainians have 
reported to us the presence of Iranian drones especially.
    That has been pretty well covered in open sources but I can 
go into some details in closed session with you if you would 
like. I am in significant contact with my good friend and 
colleague Eric Kurilla in Central Command, and some of the 
things we are thinking about in terms of handling this 
situation, I can address with you in closed session as well, if 
you will permit me.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. You may want to address 
this in closed session, but do we think they have an unlimited 
supply of the weapons] that they are providing to Russia, or 
are we seeing challenges within their industrial base?
    General Cavoli. They have a significant supply, but it is 
certainly not unlimited, ma'am.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. I have only a little time left, 
but could both of you speak to the importance of the air 
defender exercises that NATO is going to be doing? Again, I am 
pleased that the 157th from New Hampshire is going to 
participate in those. But how important are those? I understand 
it is the biggest exercise, that air exercise NATO has done.
    General Cavoli. If I could start, as the commander of 
allied command operations, Senator, extremely important. Air 
defense is one of the things that most of the nations in the 
alliance are challenged on in terms of capacity.
    Then the integration is something that has to be done and 
repetitively exercised constantly because systems change and 
the technology gets updated and the soft, and then you have got 
to bring it back together. These are absolutely vital 
exercises.
    General Van Ovost. Our teams are fully engaged. This is a 
critical exercise for us, for interoperability with our allies 
and partners, growing their capabilities, including command and 
control.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. General Cavoli, 
what do you assess to be the impact of Russia's assertions that 
it would deploy tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus, along with 
its handling over Iskander mobile short range ballistic 
missiles to the Belarusian forces?
    General Cavoli. Senator, thank you for the question. As a 
military matter, I do not think that it is a particularly 
concerning development. We can go into the specifics of that in 
closed session, of course. Therefore, I think it is mainly a 
gesture, and----
    Senator Fischer. Do you think it is more saber rattling 
again?
    General Cavoli. I do. I think it is a gesture and it is a 
gesture that we will handle through our policy means, etcetera. 
I have less to comment on in that regard.
    Senator Fischer. Okay, thank you. Also, can you discuss 
what your demands are for both manned and unmanned ISR 
[intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance]?
    General Cavoli. Yes, absolutely, Senator. Of course, like 
all the combatant commanders, ISR is what we depend on, 
especially during peacetime, to maintain situational awareness. 
There is a demand for ISR, both manned and unmanned, aerial 
ISR, that far exceeds the supply across the Department of 
Defense, and we are grateful when we get our share of it.
    Right now, it is extremely important for a variety of 
reasons. We can't do everything with other means. It is our 
ability to collect and analyze depends on using a layered 
approach with a variety of systems, and we depend on those.
    We are grateful for the advances that the services are 
making, from the Army with its new Artemis system, which has 
been doing great work in Europe for the last couple of years, 
to the Air Force's advances, and to the Navy's P-8 program, all 
a very valuable, ma'am.
    Senator Fischer. How do you believe the threats are going 
to change in EUCOM in the coming decades? In your crystal ball, 
what do you see?
    General Cavoli. Do you mean in General, Senator?
    Senator Fischer. In General.
    General Cavoli. Well, I think Russia is quite likely to 
remain the core security challenge in Europe for some years to 
come. Their military has suffered significant losses in this 
conflict, but they have mainly been in the ground domain.
    The air force, the tactical air force has lost about 80 
fighters and fighter bombers, but they have more than 1,000 of 
them left. The long-range aviation has not been touched. The 
navy has barely been touched, lost a ship or two. The strategic 
nuclear forces, the cyber, the space have not been touched.
    I think Russia will continue to be the core security 
challenge. But there are others. China is gaining influence and 
China continues to press for influence. Then there is always 
instability in the Balkans. You know, we are not done with 
that. So, I think perhaps we will see more of the same, 
Senator.
    Senator Fischer. You brought up where Russia hasn't touched 
many of their capabilities currently, and so, they have those 
in reserve for the next decade. When we look at munitions that 
are being used, especially in the conflict in Ukraine, and the 
amount of munitions that are being expended, do you think that 
we need to increase our production capacity here in this 
country? Would you encourage our allies to do the same?
    General Cavoli. Absolutely, Senator, to both. Our allies 
are very aware of the shortfalls that they have in munitions in 
certain cases, where they do exist.
    Senator Fischer. You were talking about the number of tanks 
and the--our allies have already shared with the Ukrainians.
    General Cavoli. Right, and so inside NATO, in my other role 
as the Supreme Allied Commander, I have been responsible to 
deliver a new set of operational plans. We turned them in on 
the 14th of April.
    They are very specific regional plans for collective 
defense, and they have a level of specificity that is going to 
drive a force structure requirement, which will be the first 
time in 35 years that the alliance has a plans based force 
structure requirement. This will guide national defense 
investments across the alliance.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. General Van Ovost, you talked a 
little bit about the sealift and being able to fuel, have that 
fueling capability. You mentioned working with MARAD. Can you 
kind of focus in, especially on the MARAD point there, on how 
important that is?
    General Van Ovost. Sure, Senator. We have a great 
relationship with the Maritime Administration who oversees our 
ready reserve force, those ships that are in reduced operating 
status. When we need to activate them, they wake up and they 
come to TRANSCOM [Transportation Command] and we fight them.
    So, it is really important that we keep that relationship 
going, and especially when it comes to our mariners, because 
the same mariners that crew ships that do foreign import and 
export, they are also the same mariners that are on our great 
haul ships. It is really important that we continue to support 
them.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Fischer. 
Senator Hirono, please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both for 
being here. General Cavoli, China is sending a special 
representative, an envoy to Ukraine and other countries for 
talks on regulating the Ukrainian crisis. Not sure what that 
means.
    The special envoy has been selected and Ukraine is sending 
a special envoy to China. Do you consider this a significant 
development, and what does that portend?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. I am not sure we know 
yet the significance of the development, but what we do know is 
that China should begin by condemning Russia's illegal and 
unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. That should be the first step 
in my mind to any productive role for China in the conflict or 
its resolution, ma'am.
    Senator Hirono. I think that--yes, well, this also 
signifies China's engagement in Europe. I think that it remains 
to be seen, but to me, it is possibly a positive sign that 
perhaps there will be an end to this terrible conflict. General 
Van Ovost, we have spoken at length about Red Hill and your 
plan for the fuel currently stored there.
    I understand there is a plan for where the fuel will go 
once de-fueling begins. With over half the required repairs at 
Red Hill complete, de-fueling remains on track to be completed 
in June 2024. Is your plan for fuel distribution in the Pacific 
complete?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, we are lockstep with INDOPACOM 
[Indo-Pacific Command] and the Navy Task Force Commander on the 
de-fueling of Red Hill. We have assets ready to support and we 
are on track to meet all of their needs.
    The posture in the Indo-Pacific is still under assessment. 
We are in our role as the global bulk fuel manager for the 
Department of Defense. We are looking very closely at the 
posture requirements, the requirements to ensure that we can 
buy fuel or store fuel, and also what needs to be afloat and 
what should be in in various areas.
    We are still doing that assessment. We are working with 
INDOPACOM on the section 333 report that should highlight the 
key aspects of that posture.
    Senator Hirono. As you are assessing how you are going to 
complete the safe de-fueling of the 100 million gallons or so 
that is that Red Hill, if you require anything further at this 
time to ensure that de-fueling happens in the way that we would 
want it to happen, will you let me and this Committee know.
    General Cavoli, in war, it is often the most vulnerable who 
pay the highest cost, the elderly, women, girls. While it is 
vital that we continue to provide Ukraine with the military 
equipment it needs to continue to bulwark democracy in Europe, 
our support of the civilian population also speaks to our 
country's values and stands in sharp contrast with Russia and 
other malign actors.
    What is the EUCOM doing to support and protect the people 
of Ukraine? How is EUCOM working with Ukraine and other United 
States Government agencies to monitor human rights abuses by 
Russia?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. First of all, we 
support NATO's and other European efforts in this regard. The 
first one, of course, was the acceptance by our allies of large 
numbers of refugees who were in the main--women and children. 
They have very successfully done that, and they did it 
spontaneously.
    Our initial thought was we were going to have to help 
significantly, but the societies absorbed them. As they have 
done so, we have worked with them carefully through non-DOD 
entities, but advised by EUCOM--to make sure that rights are 
established. Then as we talk to our Ukrainian colleagues, we do 
keep our gender advisers and everybody involved as we develop 
plans with them.
    The Ukrainians are remarkably sensitive to civilian 
casualties, of course, because those are Ukrainian civilians 
who will be inadvertently wounded in their operations. We 
routinely, in exercises here, even junior Ukrainian servicemen, 
saying, hey, wait a minute, you know, I know people in that 
town.
    What are we going to do about this? It is a complex 
question, ma'am, but those are some of the things that we are 
doing to help. We do provide support to those organizations 
that are attempting to figure out war crimes as well, although 
we have not put people on the ground to do that.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you both for your service and your 
appearance today. General Cavoli, you testified earlier that 31 
Abrams tanks would arrive in Ukraine later in the year. 
Estimates I have seen say that we are still about 8 months away 
from that. Is that correct?
    General Cavoli. No, Senator. The first thing we are going 
to do is put a training set in----
    Senator Cotton. That starts next month in Grafenwoehr, 
correct?
    General Cavoli. That is correct. Then the next set, the 
dates are moving right now. We are trying to accelerate as much 
as we can be----
    Senator Cotton. The same tanks at Grafenwoehr are going to 
be the tanks that go to Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. The first set will not. Those will be 
training tanks that we keep and then will send a different set 
in. We did the same thing with Bradleys earlier this year, sir.
    Senator Cotton. Okay. General Van Ovost, have you received 
an order to transport that second set of tanks to Ukraine yet?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, I worked very closely with 
European Command to meet all of their requirements in a 
priority manner. Certainly, we are in coordination on the 
tanks, as well as all the other significant equipment.
    Senator Cotton. Is that a, no?
    General Van Ovost. We anticipate the movement. From an 
order perspective, we are ready to move it.
    Senator Cotton. Sounds like a no. General Cavoli, you look 
like you have something to say here.
    General Cavoli. Yes. My command has not issued a specific 
date for movement for those yet. As soon as we have the exact 
sourcing pinned down with the timeline, we will issue the 
actual order for the aircraft.
    Senator Cotton. Why has your command not issued that order?
    General Cavoli. Can I take that for the record, Mr. Cotton? 
Because I would like to give you the exact--the exact status of 
it.
    Senator Cotton. I mean, we our country has thousands of 
main battle tanks. It would seem like it's not that hard to 
find 31 and get them there.
    General Cavoli. Senator, some of the reasons for that I 
could cover in closed session, but if I could----
    Senator Cotton. I guess. I think the main reason for that 
is the main reasons why we didn't even agree to supply the 
tanks for a year, which is that President Biden didn't want to 
supply them.
    Again, I think we could supply them faster than 8 or 9 
months if there was the political will. It is not a decision 
for you or General Van Ovost to make. I think it is just 
reflected from the political decision to continue to drag our 
feet in what we are supplying to Ukraine. It is just a repeated 
story we have seen over and over again throughout the course of 
this war.
    I want to get to one of the potential reasons for that as 
well. You talked earlier about submitting new OPLANs 
[Operational Plans] for NATO. It came to my attention earlier 
this year that we have not changed our OPLANs or our 
warfighting requirements in EUCOM for Russia. Is that correct?
    General Cavoli. Senator, I am in consultation with the 
Secretary of Defense on that question right now. The question 
that has been posed to me and we are working our answer with 
the staff.
    I believe I have a date with the Secretary of Defense later 
this month or next month to discuss in detail and to come to a 
conclusion on what timeline we will or will not adjust for the 
answers.
    Senator Cotton. So that is a no then. Once again, that is a 
no, we haven't changed our requirements in the OPLAN to fight 
Russia.
    General Cavoli. Could we discuss exactly what we have done 
with OPLANs in closed session, sir?
    Senator Cotton. Again, we can, but I think the question has 
been answered now, and the reason I highlighted is the 
Committee is continuously told that, by the Administration, not 
by uniformed military officers, that we can't provide this, 
that, or the other weapon to Ukraine because we need it for our 
own requirements.
    I understand that, special requirements in the Western 
Pacific against China, but if we still have the same 
requirements in place to fight Russia in April 2023 that we had 
in February 2022, after we have seen the performance of their 
military in Ukraine and after the known degradation of their 
military in Ukraine, then I think that is just a pretext that 
the Administration is using for not supplying more capabilities 
to Ukraine.
    We can get into more detail in closed setting, but I think 
it is very troubling that the Administration is still stuck in 
the pre-Ukraine war mindset of what it would take for us to 
adequately deter or defeat Russia in a conflict in EUCOM.
    One final point I want to raise is the flying of our MQ-9 
drones in the Black Sea. Russia dangerously downed one a few 
weeks back. The reports I have seen and what I have heard from 
my sources is that we have now altered our flight patterns in 
the Black Sea, that we are no longer flying in the same 
airspace where we were flying before that negligent incident 
with the Russian aircraft. Is that correct?
    General Cavoli. Yes, Senator. It was not just negligent. It 
was not competent. The Russian pilot bumped into the MQ-9, 
which is not something pilots typically do on purpose. Again, 
on ISR operations, especially in the Black Sea, I would be 
delighted to answer you in detail in closed session.
    Senator Cotton. Well, I asked the Secretary of Defense this 
recently, and he repeatedly said, we will fly the paths we felt 
necessary to collect intelligence information.
    General Cavoli. Those have been his instructions to me.
    Senator Cotton. I understand that. But again, that is not 
a--that is not a no, when I was asking him that. That is--to 
me, that is him saying we are not flying where we were anymore 
because we don't want to be provocative, which again, is a 
political decision, is not a military decision. This is not 
some secret.
    I mean, Russia knows where we are flying these aircraft 
like anybody here could find out we are flying them for the 
most part just by going on open-source information. If we are 
flying those aircraft in certain airspace in the Black Sea 
before that incident, because that is where we thought we 
needed to get intelligence, and now we are saying we can get 
that intelligence by flying them somewhere else, well we 
shouldn't have been flying there in the first place.
    If we needed to get in there to get that intelligence in 
the first place, then we should be back there, otherwise we are 
simply ceding that airspace to Russia. My time has expired. I 
guess we will address more of these in closed setting.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator 
Gillibrand, please.
    Senator Gillibrand. General Cavoli, last year we passed the 
Justice for Victims of War Crimes Act, improving the Department 
of Justice's ability to prosecute war crimes committed in 
Ukraine. However, prosecutors, whether in the United States or 
in an international tribunal, cannot proceed with cases without 
evidence.
    How is EUCOM working with Ukraine and with our allies to 
preserve evidence of war crimes? If your personnel discover 
evidence of a war crime through classified systems, are you 
ensuring that the evidence is flagged for declassification and 
eventual used by prosecutors?
    General Cavoli. Senator, thank you. We don't have the lead 
on this question, on this initiative, obviously. We do support 
it, as requested. When we find evidence of war crimes, whether 
in open sources or any other way, we do refer those and we do 
keep track of them. Yes, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. The war in Ukraine has 
allowed the world to observe wartime operations in the cyber 
and space domains. As a combatant commander in the theater 
where this conflict is occurring, what have you learned from 
the conflict about the employment of military forces in the 
cyber and space domains?
    General Cavoli. We have learned a ton, both in terms of 
adversary capability and capacity, Senator, as well as our 
defensive needs. We are working hard to improve where we need 
to improve.
    Most of all, we are working to help our allies defend their 
networks and to help our partners who are vulnerable also to 
defend their networks. We have a very tight cooperation with 
Paul Nakasone and his U.S. Cyber Command to do this.
    There are some specific things, of course, that at a 
classified level would be interesting to talk about. In 
general, we have seen a significant employment of cyber, both 
inside the conflict zone and outside the conflict zone, on the 
part of our adversaries, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. General Van Ovost, TRANSCOM is turning 
over responsibility for servicemembers' permanent change of 
station moves to a private contractor. How will the Department 
ensure the servicemembers' experience actually improves under 
this contract? How does the Department intend to respond if 
military families' experience worsen rather than improve?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, thanks for the question. We are 
focused on delivering the quality, service, transparency, and 
accountability that is not existent in the current series of 
contracts.
    So, we are partnering with Home Safe, and we have a 
measured phasing plan with 28 separate metrics monthly that we 
will be reviewing for which we own the data. So, we are going 
to continue to watch them as they bring along the capacity, as 
they begin right after peak season, September 2023.
    We have a spouses group where we are getting feedback from, 
actively seeking from them their experiences. Our first sample 
rate is going to be about 50 percent. We are going to 
definitely be understanding how they are bringing on the 
capacity and are they delivering on the quality that we desire.
    Senator Gillibrand. Thank you. Part of your strategy for 
TRANSCOM has involved the increased use of commercial contracts 
for defense missions rather than military aircraft and crews.
    Can you discuss how you are ensuring that these contracts 
are implementing appropriate and aggressive cybersecurity 
protocols? How are you including cybersecurity in these 
contracts, and how are you verifying that these contractors are 
not endangering the security of our military personnel or 
allies?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, cyber is a consistent 
discussion point amongst us and our transportation service 
providers. We are collaborating with industry. We have contract 
cybersecurity standards to safeguard defense information in 
those contracts. They annually assess them and we review those 
assessments.
    We are working throughout the department with Paul Nakasone 
on sharing and collaboration initiatives with our industry 
partners. I appreciate Congress's support of the no cost 
cybersecurity offerings offered in the Cyber Collaboration 
Center and the defense industrial based cyber security program.
    Our transportation service providers are taking advantage 
of these, and we are assessing them almost constantly.
    Senator Gillibrand. General Cavoli, following up on Senator 
Shaheen's question and Senator Hirono's question about Iran and 
China, can you talk a little bit more about what the impact of 
Iranian involvement and Chinese involvement in the conflict 
create, and what recommendations you have to the 
Administration?
    General Cavoli. Yes, ma'am. So, the first complication is 
diplomatic and political, right? The fact that they don't 
condemn. The fact that in some cases they affirm Russia's 
position. Second, Iran, as we noted a few minutes ago, has 
provided some material support, specifically drones.
    Those have had an effect. Those do two things. First, when 
they succeed, they strike targets, and second, they have to be 
countered. Sometimes they are countered with air defense 
missiles.
    As Chairman Milley and Secretary Austin have made very 
plain, the primary requirement the Ukrainians have right now is 
ground based air defense to control their skies. It is a cost 
imposition strategy that should go after with that. Chinese aid 
has been non-material and it has not had a direct physical 
effect on the battlefield yet, ma'am.
    Senator Gillibrand. Are there any other impact non-
material?
    General Cavoli. In closed session, I could discuss one 
specific one, ma'am.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Gillibrand. Senator 
Rounds, please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
both of you for your service to our country and to your 
families as well. Thank you also for your teams that are with 
you today, and their families as well for their service to our 
country.
    I just want to followup a little bit. The line of 
questioning that Senator Cotton began here is one that I think 
I would like to understand a little bit more clearly. There--I 
believe there were 31 Abrams tanks that were committed to by 
our country to Ukraine's defense. Are those--in that 31, do 
those include the training tanks that are already in, you know, 
in Europe today?
    General Cavoli. Senator, there will be 31 Abrams as of 
right now, donated to Ukraine. The training set will be a 
separate set.
    Senator Rounds. Okay, and so, you have got some there in 
Europe right now. Do you have the 31 identified as being 
already in Europe or are they in the United States?
    General Cavoli. Senator, if I could, I would like to take 
that for the record so I can give you the exact location.
    Senator Rounds. I don't need the exact location. I was just 
curious if they were within your area of operation today in 
Europe.
    General Cavoli. Senator, again, I would want to give you an 
accurate answer, and I don't have it off the top of my head, 
sir.
    Senator Rounds. It would seem to me that if we have 
committed for those tanks to be made available, what is the 
length of time from when you are notified that it is time to 
deliver them? How long does that take--and perhaps this is a 
better question for General Van Ovost--how long does it take to 
actually deliver the Abrams tanks once you have been notified 
or requested to deliver them?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, we have multiple avenues to 
deliver Abrams tanks, by air or by sea. We consistently look 
not just at Abrams tanks, but the significant amount of aid 
that is being provided to Ukraine.
    We source that from around the globe, not necessarily just 
out of CONUS [Continental United States] or just out of Europe. 
As we determine where the sources are going to be, we match it 
to the best resource to move it to meet the timelines as needed 
by the priorities set out by the European zone.
    Senator Rounds. So, you are prepared to make that move as 
expeditiously as possible once you have been given the orders 
to transport the tanks?
    General Van Ovost. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Where would those tanks be located at today 
if you were to do them? Can you share that in an open session?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, again, I don't know where all 
the tanks are and which ones would be viable for this donation. 
I would leave that up to Army Materiel Command and----
    Senator Rounds. So, it hasn't gotten that far yet.
    General Van Ovost. Not to my awareness, has gotten that 
far.
    Senator Rounds. All right. Thank you, and, General, once 
again, the orders, or at least your authorizations to move 
tanks over. You will play a part in that, but you have not been 
given the authorizations yet to do that at this time?
    General Cavoli. Right. When the exact tanks are identified 
and their location. They could come from stocks in Europe, as 
General Van Ovost just pointed out. They could be 
reconstructed.
    When I have got the set identified, then I place an order 
with General Van Ovost, and it usually goes fairly quickly, 
sir. They can be moved by air or better by sealift.
    Senator Rounds. I think it is fair to say that we probably 
have the best logistics capabilities of any country in the 
world, and that is a testament not just to the men and women 
that serve within that, but also because we do a good job of 
planning.
    I think the reason why I am following up on this, and I 
recognize this is not a line of questioning that you really 
want to go down, but I think it is important to point out that 
this is not a case of where we just simply can't deliver 31 
Abrams tanks.
    Bottom line is that this has been a policy decision that 
they are not prepared to deliver 31 Abrams tanks at this time. 
It is not within your authorization. General, would that be a 
correct statement on my part?
    General Cavoli. Senator, there is an intention to deliver 
the 31 tanks. I think there are some technical things that we 
have to go through in terms of exactly which tanks, that we are 
working on.
    Senator Rounds. But the bottom line is, is if we needed 
those tanks, it shouldn't take 8 months for the United States 
Army to be able to access 31 Abrams tanks. If we needed them 
tomorrow, we would get them very, very quickly. If you needed 
them, you could get them.
    Or if you were authorized to get them, you could get them. 
This is not a case of us not being able to get them. It is a 
matter that somebody has got to make a decision on when they 
want those tanks delivered. Is that a fair statement, General?
    General Cavoli. Sir, I think the key is exactly which tanks 
and which capabilities, and their levels of classification that 
the Army has to wade through on that question for 
releasability, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Fair to say, though, sir, that should never 
take 9 months. If you needed those tanks, you could get those 
tanks.
    General Cavoli. Sir, if I needed those tanks for the U.S. 
Army, I certainly could.
    Senator Rounds. Yes, Okay. That is very helpful. Thank you, 
General. I recognize this was not the line of questioning that 
I wanted to go down today, but this, I think, is important to 
understand that those decisions need to be made and that this 
is not within your area of operation.
    You are ready to go. You can get it done, but someone has 
got to tell you, it is time to go. I want to thank you for 
those very frank answers. I also, I am mindful that my time is 
expiring, but I just have to also say, I want to take home just 
to thank you and your staff for resolving an issue that the 
South Dakota Army National Guard's 129th Mobile Public Affairs 
Detachment had in getting its meals paid for while deployed in 
support of Atlantic resolve.
    It takes a total force to defend the Nation. The Guard is a 
key component to that force, but sometimes the pieces just 
simply don't fit together very well. I want to thank you for 
going the extra mile to take care of these soldiers, even while 
tending to the strategic issues that you are responsible for. I 
want to just publicly say thank you for getting involved and 
getting that fixed for these young soldiers.
    General Cavoli. Senator, my command was wrong in that case. 
We appreciate your care for your constituents, and for bringing 
it to our attention, and we are rectifying it.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rounds. Senator Kelly, 
please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both for 
being here today. I have a question for each of you. First, I 
want to start with General Van Ovost on the tanker 
recapitalization plan.
    The Air Force has modified this approach in order to 
accelerate the next generation air refueling system, NGAS. 
Having a modern and survivable tanker plan is critical to any 
future fight. It is also part of strategic deterrence.
    As you know, the Arizona National Guard provides a 
significant amount of support for rapid mobilization, worldwide 
deployment, airlift, aeromedical evacuation, and sustained 
aerial refueling operations for both our Air Forces and the 
Navy, and partner nations air forces. The 161st air refueling 
wing fleet is now more than 50 years old, and it remains in 
really high demand.
    General, what can you share about the Air Force's plan to 
recapitalize Arizona's National Guard tanker mission, as well 
as the other Air National Guard units supporting this mission 
across the country?
    What I am getting at is what is the plan here, and for 
Arizona specifically to get either a KC-Y bridge 
recapitalization tanker, or to continue with the KC-46 until 
NGAS comes online?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, thanks for that question. You 
know, our ability to project and sustain the Joint Force 
without fail is a deterrent to our aggressors, and it assures 
our allies and partners we will be there, and air refueling is 
the backbone to that. Along those lines, thank you for your 
support.
    The Total Force, we could not do our job in in logistics 
and mobility without the total force, the strength of the total 
force. I use them every day, so I thank them for their service. 
As far as the recapitalization, as we work with the Secretary 
of the Air Force, the Air Force staff, they are committed to a 
continuous recapitalization program, because when we get the 
last KC-46 on the current contract, 179th aircraft, we will 
still have 287, 67-year-old KC-135s.
    They have committed to a very targeted modernization 
program for the KC-135, which need to last us out into the 
2040's, to ensure the safety of the airplanes and the 
survivability of those airplanes out into the future.
    Meanwhile, they have committed to a continuous 
recapitalization program with capabilities that are relevant to 
the KC-46 Block 1, because as they accelerate next generation 
air fueling system to the left to the mid-2030's, we will have 
a gap of 6 or 7 years there where we won't have any production 
of airplanes.
    I look forward to their plan. They are doing an analysis of 
alternatives. I look forward to their plan to continue to seed 
and recapitalize with all of our air refueling units, because 
in the end, all of those KC-135 need to be recapitalized.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. Can I get your commitment to work with 
me to ensure that the Guard will receive modernized tankers in 
a timely fashion comparable with Active Duty units?
    General Van Ovost. Yes, Senator. I will work with you and 
the Air Force on that.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you. Thank you. General Cavoli, good 
seeing you again. We met in Munich and I just got back in Kyiv 
a couple of weeks ago, met with President Zelensky for over an 
hour. We had a very productive talk about what he thinks he 
needs to defeat Russia. I am more than ever committed to 
support Ukraine.
    We can't let Russia win this thing. Last week, Congress was 
notified of a Presidential drawdown authority for more HIMARS, 
155-millimeter artillery rounds, and a series of other 
equipment.
    Just for me to get to the point here, in your military 
assessment, is the equipment of the United States and our 
partners providing enough to pave the way for a decisive 
victory against the Russians by Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator, and thank you for the 
notes on your recent trip to Kyiv as well. They were very 
helpful to me. We went into a planning process with our 
Ukrainian colleagues last winter, and we developed with them a 
number of courses of action, wargaming them carefully.
    When we came down to the key courses of action for an 
offensive, we calculated the amount of equipment and the 
various types that they required, and we have fulfilled that. 
We have nearly gotten everything into Ukraine, and I am 
confident they have what they need for the offensive that we 
have planned with them. I can go into significant detail in a 
closed session with you, sir.
    Senator Kelly. Okay. We will pick it up then. Thank you. 
Thank you, General.
    General Cavoli. Sir, thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you, gentlemen, very much for--or 
excuse me, ma'am. Thank you, sir, General Cavoli, for being 
here today, and General Van Ovost, thank you very much, ma'am, 
for coming in front of the Committee today.
    I am going to start with you, General Cavoli. A number of 
my colleagues have raised the issue of Ukraine and Russia, and 
what we hear in the news, and this has been a hot button topic 
with the Administration as well, is that we are afraid of 
escalation. As the war continues to go on, we will escalate, 
Russia will escalate.
    General Cavoli, how do you assess the prospect, or excuse 
me, the prospect of Russia escalating to a point of a nuclear 
weapons use in this conflict? Can you talk in open session just 
broadly about what you see, what you have heard, and what would 
that be that tipping point for Vladimir Putin?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. It is nice to see you 
again. Of course, this is a complicated and difficult question. 
There are an enormous variety of things that go into successful 
deterrence and successful escalation management. It is 
something we work on every single day.
    I am in constant communication with the Department as well 
as my subordinate commands, as well as our allies in terms of 
what we are doing, where we are located, what is happening 
inside of Ukraine, what is happening outside of Ukraine.
    To include with my fellow combatant commanders, many of 
whom have Russian presence in their AORs [area of 
responsibility] as well, successful so far, right. We have 
managed to control every incident to the extent possible, and I 
think that is due to a lot of hard work and learning as we go 
along.
    With regard to nuclear escalation specifically, ma'am, it 
is very difficult to talk about in an open session, but I have 
traveled back to the United States to deliver testimony, so I 
obviously have a certain degree of confidence that we, the 
United States and the alliance are in a good, strong position 
in deterring such things.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, thank you very much. I appreciate that. 
We hope that we continue on a strong path of deterrence in that 
area. With the other assessments out there of President 
Zelensky's wishes to not only expel the Russians from Eastern 
Ukraine, but also to retake Crimea, what is your assessment of 
their ability to retake Crimea, and what would the posture be 
coming from the United States and our partners and allies?
    General Cavoli. Thanks. The question of retaking any 
specific piece of ground depends on a variety of things. Crimea 
is pretty tough. Crimea has got a mountainous center.
    Of course, Crimea is pretty hard to keep resupplied if you 
are the adversary as well. It really depends on the situation 
at the time. If Crimea were empty of Russian soldiers, it would 
be easy. If Crimea were defended at a certain level, it would 
be harder, and it is hard to see where things go.
    What we do know is that any such question would be answered 
sequentially with the activities--after the activities that the 
Ukrainians are planning to undertake in the next months. It is 
hard to say from here.
    Senator Ernst. Yes. Thank you very much. As we look to the 
future, and I know we don't know when this conflict will end, 
we hope it would be soon, but General Cavoli, would NATO's 
military requirements in EUCOM increase if there is a political 
decision to extend a security commitment to Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. Our posture, the U.S. posture has shifted 
over time, of course, ma'am. In the initial phases, we went up 
about 103,000 uniform. We have adjusted that over time. We are 
about 82,000 in uniform right now, and that depends on what we 
see going in the AOR.
    It is a constant back and forth with the Department and the 
situation. If we were to extend some form of security guarantee 
to Ukraine, it would clearly depend on exactly what the nature 
of the security guarantee was. It would also depend, 
importantly, on what approach our allies took to that.
    Our allies are increasing their defense commitments. Many 
of our Eastern flank allies, such as Poland, have made massive 
investments, 3.94 percent of GDP right now, which exceeds U.S. 
expenditures on defense.
    It depends on what role they would take as well, and that 
would certainly be our choice, our preference to have them lead 
in such a situation.
    Senator Ernst. I see that my time is expiring, but part of 
that equation as well, I would like to discuss further at 
another time, but our continued participation in the State 
Partnership program, especially with a number of our European 
partners.
    Obviously, Iowa is partnered with Kosovo. There is a lot of 
concern with some of those nations as well with Russian 
influence. I think they can be an extremely important part of 
that solution.
    General Cavoli. Ma'am, I am the biggest fan of the State 
partnership program.
    Senator Ernst. Thank you very much. Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Ernst. Senator 
Blumenthal.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thanks, Mr. Chairman. Thank you both 
for being here and for your extraordinarily service to our 
Nation.
    To each of your teams, some of them behind you, my thanks 
as well. General Cavoli, I have been to Ukraine three times 
over roughly the last year, plus. I have also, by the way, 
visited the training area in Grafenwoehr, and I have been just 
immensely impressed not only by President Zelensky on the three 
occasions that I have spent time with him and everyday 
Ukrainians, but his military team, and our team training 
Ukrainians.
    Their dedication, their bonding, in fact, in providing the 
hands-on skill they need to operate the Bradley and Stryker 
vehicles. I think it is a great tribute to our military that we 
have committed in the way that we have, not just at the 30,000-
foot level, but literally person to person, hands on in the way 
that we have.
    I am deeply troubled as I view the assets they have and the 
assets that we could provide. You have just testified in 
response to Senator Kelly that your belief is that they have 
what they need to be successful in the counteroffensive this 
spring in the South and in the East. Is that correct?
    General Cavoli. That is correct, Senator.
    Senator Blumenthal. Our mantra is that we never want to see 
a fair fight. Do they have what they need to have an unfair 
advantage in this offensive going forward?
    General Cavoli. Sir, they have to be better than the 
Russian force they face, and there are great weaknesses in the 
Russian force they face right now. Those weaknesses are 
temporary and the Russians will improve their posture and their 
capabilities over time. Time and the enemies, the Ukrainians' 
enemies' capabilities is an important factor in this.
    Senator Blumenthal. Don't they need more?
    General Cavoli. I believe that they will have what they 
need.
    Senator Blumenthal. Sorry to interrupt--don't they need 
more air defense? Couldn't they use planes? What about more of 
the armored vehicles, even more tanks? Where would you assess 
the platforms that we can do more to provide to give them 
greater strength at this critical moment, because I assume you 
agree that if this counteroffensive is unsuccessful, it will be 
a significant setback for the Ukrainians.
    General Cavoli. Sir, yes, of course, there are things we 
continue to give them and that we will need to continue to give 
them over time. I may have mischaracterized things. We haven't 
delivered a force, and then that is it.
    We continue to build with them and we have plans to 
continue to build with them over the summer and into the 
autumn. Then eventually we intend to help them restructure 
their entire military.
    In the short term, ground-based air defense remains 
important. We have made some important advances in the last 
couple of months. I could be very specific about them in closed 
session, of course, sir, but I feel pretty comfortable about 
where we are and I am comfortable about where we are going in 
the next couple of months, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. What about----
    General Cavoli. An army can always use more.
    Senator Blumenthal. Understood. What about planes? What is 
your assessment?
    General Cavoli. Sir, they have just received a bunch of 
MiG-29s from two of our allies. They have begun to employ some 
of those MiG-29s. They have a few dozen aircraft right now. 
They are conducting offensive as well as defensive operations 
with them right now. I think they are key to controlling their 
own airspace right now. However, it is ground based air 
defense, as you pointed out a minute ago, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. The Washington Post reported yesterday 
that leaked United States intelligence indicated that the 
Russians can fund the war in Ukraine for at least another year. 
Do you agree with that assessment?
    General Cavoli. Sir, I can't talk specifically to the 
undisclosed--to the unauthorized disclosures. Clearly, there 
are investigations going on and everything like that. However, 
it is important to note that, as General Milley has said on a 
number of occasions, the Russians have strategic depth, they 
have manpower, and they are not to be underestimated in terms 
of their ability to endure.
    Senator Blumenthal. So, you don't disagree with the 
conclusion that they could fund the war for another year, which 
again heightens the importance of the counter offensive.
    General Cavoli. As completely separate from what may or may 
not be in any documents----
    Senator Blumenthal. Yes----
    General Cavoli. Yes, no, I think they can fund for another 
year, sir.
    Senator Blumenthal. One last question, sir, just following 
up on Senator Cotton's question.
    You may not be aware, but four of us wrote to the Secretary 
of Defense on March 21 asking that our warfighting requirements 
in Europe be updated to reflect the degradation of Russian 
forces, 200,000 or more of their troops killed, significant 
damage to their armored vehicles, and so forth, because 
obviously it is a different force than it was when those 
warfighting requirements were devised.
    Putting aside the timing, wouldn't you agree in your 
professional capacity that those warfighting requirements do 
have to be updated?
    General Cavoli. Absolutely. When we can assess the exact 
status, Senator, of the capabilities, the capacity, and the 
disposition of whatever Russian army emerges from this, 
absolutely, we will update that stuff.
    I am in contact, as I mentioned to Senator Cotton a moment 
ago, with the department about this. I would point out one or 
two things, though. The Russian army inside Ukraine today is 
bigger than it was at the beginning of the conflict. We have to 
make sure we got the right-side picture, and that is what I am 
working on.
    Separately, sir, I thank you for your visits to 
Grafenwoehr, your kind words about our soldiers and our NCOs 
who are absolutely putting the ball over the left field fence 
every day. All components, all three components every day, and 
I invite all Members to please come visit those soldiers at 
Grafenwoehr and see what they are doing for our country.
    Senator Blumenthal. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Blumenthal. Senator 
Scott, please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chairman. Thank each of you for 
being here. Thank you for what you do.
    I just had the opportunity to go to Greece and Cyprus a 
couple weeks ago, and that was with Admiral Sciretta and some 
other sailors. You really have to admire what people are doing. 
General, can you talk about the importance of Cyprus and the 
importance of making sure we continue to allow them to get the 
military equipment that they need?
    General Cavoli. The Eastern Mediterranean in General, 
Senator, thank you for bringing it up, it is a complicated area 
and it is an area that has seen greatly increased competition, 
as well as Russian naval presence in the past few years.
    The establishment of the naval base in Tartus has been an 
important part of that. In my NATO role, we devote a lot of 
attention to that, and we have a couple of operations, maritime 
operations and air operations, that help us with that.
    In my United States role, Naval Forces Europe, work 
extensively down there. One of our requirements is to be able 
to project power into the Eastern-Med, and Cyprus is ideally 
located to do that, as you know, and does figure into some of 
our thoughts in that regard. We keep a strong military to 
military relationship with Cyprus, sir.
    Senator Scott. Cyprus--it is in our best interest if Cyprus 
continues to buy American equipment rather than rely on Chinese 
and our Russian equipment.
    General Cavoli. Sir, American equipment sharing and 
equipment set with another nation creates a strategic bond as 
well as a practical bond that is very useful.
    Senator Scott. Yes. I want to thank you and everybody in 
Europe for all their efforts to make sure Ukraine wins.
    You ever talking to just somebody that is not very 
political and doesn't really think about geopolitics? What 
would you tell them is a reason why we ought to be involved in 
the Ukraine more with--as, and all the help we give them? What 
would your pitch be?
    I mean, just think about it for a second. Americans are 
saying, we have spent--I think we have committed $100 billion 
plus to this, and that is clearly a lot of money. So how would 
you--what would you say to people?
    General Cavoli. Sir, thank you for the incredibly important 
question, right. The first thing I would tell just one of my 
cousins or something like that is that America does not like 
bullies and having bullies around does not help America.
    That is step one, and Russia is a bully, and we need to 
deal with that. We need to help those who stand up to bullies 
to deal with that. Second, the United States doesn't let 
adversaries control things that are valuable to us, and that 
part of Europe is valuable to us, and so is Europe in General.
    If Ukraine loses, then more at Europe is at stake, and we 
don't let that happen. Then finally, I would say just in a 
self-interest sense when I was a lieutenant and came in the 
Army in the 1980's, we had more than 300,000 United States 
servicepeople stationed overseas because of Russia, because of 
the Soviet threat, and we don't need to return to that. We 
don't need to return to that.
    Ukraine deserves help so we don't have to.
    Senator Scott. General, when you look at, and like on this 
chart, do you see where your troops are, your servicemen and 
women are stationed, is there any logic to moving more people 
out of places like Italy and Germany, and closer to where there 
is more risk?
    General Cavoli. Thanks, Senator. Yes, of course, there is. 
We have done that as the risk has gone up. We have shifted 
forces on temporary deployments out to the East, and all of the 
reinforcement just about that have come in have gone out to the 
East.
    Moreover, in the past year, the Department has announced 
the intent to station some new organizations in Europe, the 
Fifth Corps headquarters forward is in Poland. A new special 
logistics base has gone straight into Poland. We have shifted a 
combat aviation brigade on rotation out to Poland.
    We have a permanent rotation--we have an enduring 
rotational presence in each of the three Baltics. We have a 
division headquarters and a brigade combat team in Romania. So, 
we have done a significant shift to the East.
    The forces that are left in places like Italy and Germany 
are well positioned for deployment to reinforce the correct 
location. They have Got Good Readiness facilities, training 
facilities, and they have good infrastructure for deployment. 
They give us flexibility as we go forward, sir.
    Senator Scott. Thank both of you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Senator Scott, when people ask me that 
question, why are we there, my short answer is Google 
Sudetenland, 1938. Hitler could have been stopped and 55 
million lives could have been saved.
    To me, that is the most compelling argument. If Putin is 
successful in Ukraine, then we are going to be facing threats 
in the Baltics, Poland. He has said that he wants to rebuild 
the Soviet Union. General, I just want you to know that the 
concern about tanks is bipartisan. I am very frustrated that 
those tanks, they ought to be sitting in Chechlo, Poland right 
now, ready as soon as the training is done.
    This counteroffensive that everybody is talking about, it 
is the longest wind up for a punch in the history of the world, 
is going to be trench warfare and it is going to involve tanks. 
That is why the tank was invented at the end of World War I. If 
our tanks don't get there until August or September, it may 
well be too late.
    I just want to urge you to urge--I know it is--you have 
done, you both have done an amazing job of logistics and 
working with the Ukrainians and integrating and supplying them 
with what they need. This tank story is not satisfactory. The 
decision has been made, okay. Then let's get ready to execute 
it and cut through whatever the red tape is. I know we have got 
to do the training, but the tanks should be sitting there in 
the Polish border ready to go when that training is done.
    I just hope you will take back that this is a bipartisan 
concern on this Committee that, you know, coming in at the end, 
after the counter offensive is just--that will be looked on as 
a tragic mistake. I learned 5 years ago that the Russians have 
a doctrine called escalate to deescalate.
    That they will use tactical nuclear weapons if they believe 
that they are about to have some kind of catastrophic loss on 
the battlefield. You were asked earlier, but I want to put a 
finer point on the question, isn't it at least within the realm 
of the thinkable, that Putin would use tactical nuclear weapons 
if indeed he felt that Crimea was at risk, or if there is a 
significant breakthrough by the Ukrainians in the South and 
East?
    General Cavoli. Thanks, Senator. It has certainly been 
mentioned by members of the Russian Government as well as by 
observers on the Russian political scene, that is the potential 
or the possibility for using nuclear weapons.
    Senator King. This is part of their military doctrine, 
going back before this invasion.
    General Cavoli. Yes, sir. The exact conditions under which 
they would do that, I think, are not completely known and might 
not be completely known to them. They might look good on paper, 
but then when the moment comes, it might be harder to decide.
    We have some insights into it, Senator, that I would be, of 
course, eager to share with you in closed session. As I said a 
few moments ago, our deterrence, our escalation management so 
far, as well as our deterrence, have held very well so far, and 
I feel comfortable where we are right now.
    Senator King. Deterrence is the key. They have to 
understand that there will be a response that would be very 
costly to them. Deterrence is the heart of our, as you know, of 
our entire military strategy. Iron Dome. Wouldn't Iron Dome 
help? Why don't we have Iron Dome in Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. Sir, Iron Dome clearly could help, and the 
things that we have provide help also.
    Senator King. Oh, I agree. Iron Dome seems to be 
particularly calibrated to the kind of low-level attacks that 
are coming in by drones and missiles.
    General Cavoli. Yes, I can't speak to exactly why Iron Dome 
in particular is not there, sir. If I could defer that to the 
working group that develops those solutions.
    Senator King. I would--if you could take that for the 
record, I would really like to know. Because we certainly help 
to fund the development of Iron Dome, and it just seems to me 
that it fits in this situation.
    We have moved Patriots in, and as you mentioned earlier, 
air defense is one of the most crucial things that the 
Ukrainians need. I would like if you could take for the record 
some thoughts on how we could move forward with Iron Dome.
    General Cavoli. I sure will, Senator King. Thanks.
    Senator King. You have talked about China. It seems to me 
China can play either a useful role or a destructive role, and 
the jury is out on which direction. We have seen some hopeful 
diplomatic moves in the last 24 hours, but if they start 
supplying significant material to the Russians, that also could 
tip the balance in the wrong direction. Would you agree to 
that?
    General Cavoli. I absolutely agree with that, Senator.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator--I believe 
Senator Budd.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, thank you 
both for your service. It is great to have a former deputy 
commanding General of the 82d Airborne Division before the 
Committee, so thank you for your service, especially in North 
Carolina. General Cavoli, I have a few questions I would like 
to ask about our foreign military sales process.
    I have asked these questions, similar questions of other 
geographic combatant commanders, and I am hoping to finish this 
up with you. I would appreciate on the first part, just yes or 
no on each one.
    Then at the end, I will have an opportunity for you to 
expand, if you would. Is the current foreign military sales 
(FMS) process, is it fast and flexible enough to meet our 
foreign partners' security needs in your area of 
responsibility?
    General Cavoli. No, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Does the transfer of U.S. defense articles 
build our partners' capacity to provide for their own defense?
    General Cavoli. Absolutely, Senator.
    Senator Budd. Does the FMS increase the interoperability 
between the U.S. military and those countries we sell defense 
articles to?
    General Cavoli. Absolutely, Senator. It is one of the most 
important aspects of our foreign military sales.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. Given the outstanding performance 
of United States defense systems in Ukraine versus the 
lackluster performance of Russian systems, are you seeing an 
increase in FMS requests from our European allies and partners?
    General Cavoli. Without a doubt, Senator, there is an 
enormous appetite around the world for U.S. armaments right 
now.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. What particular systems are in 
demand right now?
    General Cavoli. Sir, the ones that have been on display. 
The HIMARS system, the GMLRS [Guided Multiple Launch Rocket 
System] rockets, radar systems, the Patriot missile system is 
in high demand. But I would point out that just about all U.S. 
armaments are looked upon around the world with great desire. 
There is great appetite for them.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, General, and from your view, how 
are these FMS challenges impacting strategic competition with 
China and Russia on the European continent?
    General Cavoli. Well, sir, in Europe specifically, they 
don't impact too much because the Chinese and the Russians 
aren't selling too much war materiel inside Europe. Clearly not 
to NATO, for example.
    In fact, our European allies with our assistance are in the 
process of divesting their Soviet era stuff. However, as you 
may know, I used to be the Commander of United States Army 
Europe and Africa.
    In places like Africa, it is very difficult for us to 
compete if it takes us a long time to deliver a set of Humvees 
to a nation, but it takes China 6 months to put them on a boat 
and roll them in there. It gets hard to compete in that regard.
    So, speed is, I think, your point, speed in foreign 
military sales is an essential part of delivering the influence 
that we seek when we conduct those sells.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, General. General Van Ovost, in 
North Carolina, we couldn't be more proud of the military ocean 
terminal, Sunny Point, and I had a chance to visit recently, 
and the 596 Transportation Brigade, the unit who ever sees it.
    In the past, there have been concerns about staffing and 
funding shortages at Sunny Point and the Nation's other 
terminals. Can you please provide an update on those issues and 
what resources, if any, are needed to ensure these critical 
transportation nodes are prepared to support the Nation's 
needs?
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, Senator. Thank you for 
visiting MOTSU [Military Ocean Terminal Sunny Point]. It is a 
critical ammunition outlook location for America. As we look at 
both MOTSU, and MOTCO [Military Ocean Terminal Concord] in 
California, we are working closely with the Army and the 
Department of Defense to ensure that they have the resources 
they need so that we can protect and keep the capabilities 
there.
    As you probably know, infrastructure. I think about that, 
especially with contested logistics, that there--that those 
would be a point of interest for our aggressors to try to slow 
down. From a cyber perspective and infrastructure perspective, 
the berthing perspective, we want to make sure that they are 
working well.
    The 596, I couldn't be prouder of the work that they have 
done to support General Cavoli and the outload to Ukraine. That 
is a really critical point for us. Their readiness, again, when 
I think about day-to-day readiness and readiness to the future, 
the number one thing you can do for us to ensure our readiness 
is to pass an on-time budget, because that cedes both time and 
money to the enemy.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, General. Chairman, just a 
question. I didn't see the time reset. Do I have time for one 
more question? Thank you. General Van Ovost, do you have any 
concerns about cyber-attacks that could slow down the flow of 
forces or material in crises or conflict? If so, what is 
TRANSCOM doing about it?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, cyber is one of the major 
concerns that we have because we have a large, what we call 
surface attack area, across the logistics network from end to 
end.
    We are looking very closely at cyber hardening practices, 
not just in the U.S., not just under Department of Defense 
systems, but our civilian systems within the defense industrial 
base, and with our allies and partners. It is critical that we 
stay focused on that, and we have.
    The other thing is our ability to command and control. We 
must have secure command and control, secure communications, 
and updated cryptographic materials so that we can maintain a 
consistent flow of logistics at a time and place of our 
choosing.
    Senator Budd. Again, thank you both. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Budd. Senator Peters, 
please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks to both of 
you for your service to our country. General Cavoli, nowhere in 
the world is the power of our alliances clearly more evident 
than what we are seeing in NATO right now.
    Through the National Guard's bureaus State Partnership 
program, the Michigan National Guard has supported the alliance 
through our partnership with Latvia for now nearly 30 years.
    One of the advantages of these State partnership programs 
is that it provides NATO an opportunity to utilize CONUS based 
facilities for training purposes. A complaint that I have heard 
from other combatant commanders is the lack of suitable 
training facilities in their AOR, and how that is going to--how 
oftentimes a complement or complicates partner force training. 
My question for you is, what is your current capacity for 
training in your AOR?
    Given the renewed focus on our NATO allies, on defense 
issues, would you benefit from having a CONUS location that 
could be used for training similar to what the Latvians have 
been doing in Northern Michigan for many, many years?
    General Cavoli. Thanks, Senator. Again, as I mentioned a 
couple of moments ago to one of the other members, the State 
partnership program is just invaluable to us in USEUCOM. I 
think the other geographic combatant commanders share my 
opinion.
    Inside Europe, we have plenty of training capacity right 
now for the United States forces as well as for our allies. 
There is quite a bit in Western Europe of training capacity, 
training facility capacity, that existed for larger armed 
forces during the cold war. In our Eastern European allies, 
however, there are some things that we need to get done.
    As you know, Latvia has been building quite a bit, has been 
improving quite a bit. Throughout the Baltics, it is necessary. 
It is necessary for a couple of reasons, not just for the host 
nation, but because in order to reinforce that host nation with 
NATO forces at a time of need, those forces would need to 
continue to train in place in the country to maintain the 
readiness necessary.
    All three of our Baltic, as well as our Polish allies, are 
working hard on their training areas in that regard. Latvia's 
activities in the United States have been very useful to 
Latvia. They have other ones throughout Europe, and I think a 
good mix is a useful thing.
    It is a useful thing, especially because it is useful for 
countries like Latvia to get a chance to go back to the states 
and to interact with their State partners on their State 
partner's home ground and see the way our systems work there as 
well. As a matter of strict capacity, not as necessary, but as 
a matter of benefit, it has been huge.
    Senator Peters. Great. Thank you. My next question for you, 
sir, is in your opening statements, you mentioned EUCOM's 
efforts to conduct activities in the information environment, 
in cyberspace, and electromagnetic spectrum to counter Russian 
aggression and other malign activities in Europe.
    My question is, as the Joint Force moves toward data 
centric concepts to synchronize common operation pictures for 
the Joint Force, are you comfortable with DOD's current 
platforms for crowd management and the capacity to display an 
accurate common operations picture for not only our Joint 
Forces, but for our allies and our partners as well?
    General Cavoli. Thanks for the question, sir. I don't think 
you would find any of my combatant commander colleagues who is 
anything but eager for the advances that we are working on 
inside the Department right now, specifically the JADC2, the 
joint all domain command and control system, which is intended 
to link any sensor to the best shooter as quickly as possible.
    In my case, being the Commander of European Command, as 
well as the Allied Command Operations Commander, it is 
imperative that that JADC2 be combined JADC2 so that we can 
share it with our allies.
    In the allied space, no, sir, I am not satisfied. We have 
work to do, and I am eager for the efforts of the department to 
continue to bear fruit.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. General Van Ovost, during your 
testimony to the House Armed Services Committee and with me in 
our discussion in my office, you highlighted the ongoing 
challenges with contested logistics and the task to conduct air 
refueling missions within that contested and degraded 
environment.
    Given these challenges and persistent threats, how are you 
working with the services to prioritize and really replicate 
training scenarios similar to potential threats from China, 
Russia, North Korea, and Iran?
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, Senator, for that question. 
Contested logistics is first and foremost in our minds on all 
of our development, our requirements development, and our 
exercise development out into the future, especially in things 
like air refueling, which is my most stressed ability.
    We are working to try to first understand ourselves. We are 
using, what we just talked about here, with JADC2 to understand 
where our data is, the ITV [in transit visibility], to 
understand what is going on, what is in motion.
    We are beginning to develop predictive analytics, to 
understand what needs to be moved in a predictive manner so we 
can marry up our scarce resources with the highest priority, 
something that we are doing today with Ukraine, being agile 
enough to change out our priorities.
    I think about the exercise, as we lay down the exercise, we 
are trying to get after those gaps, giving them hard problems 
to solve, loss of command and control, loss of precision 
navigation and timing, trying to get understanding of 
commander's intent all the way down to the tactical echelon.
    We are doing this not just in Europe, but across all of the 
continents, and with heavy, heavy emphasis in the Indo-Pacific.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. In 2014, after 
Russia moved into Crimea, NATO countries agreed to raise 
defense spending to at least 2 percent of their GDP by 2024.
    Last year, 8 years after that pledge, only 7 of the 30 NATO 
countries met that goal. Prosperous nations like France and 
Germany still lag well behind that goal.
    I know there has been some discussion about when we are 
delivering tanks, but we are talking about over the course of 
that period of time, billions and billions and billions of 
dollars from NATO countries that seemingly refuse to ante up to 
protect themselves and Europe.
    General, I want to ask you a question. If those additional 
billions of dollars would have been designated for defense, 
wouldn't that have gone a long way in deterring Russian 
aggression?
    General Cavoli. Sir, thanks for the question. You know, 
first of all, you would have to look pretty far to find 
somebody who was a bigger advocate than me of all our allies 
spending 2 percent. In fact, in my confirmation hearings, I 
made clear that I consider 2 percent to be a floor.
    Senator Schmitt. Right.
    General Cavoli. There are shopping lists that have to be 
filled out there. There are readiness requirements that have to 
be filled out. They are going to require money, and I believe 2 
percent is a floor, not a ceiling. Where we are right now--so 
in 2014, we had an average spending of 1.4 percent of GDP, sir, 
across the alliance.
    Now we are at 1.8 percent, which is still short. We have 
got 10 allies, with the addition of Finland this year. We have 
got 10 allies who currently spend 2 percent or more. We have 
got 11 allies who have a credible plan to get there, some of 
them enshrined in law, to get there by 2024, which was the 
goal. But that leaves 10.
    Senator Schmitt. Yes, and I just, I have to tell----
    General Cavoli. I encourage them to do----
    Senator Schmitt. Yes, and I know you are in kind of a 
unique position with your role, but I have to tell you, you 
know, in the United States, I think it is like 54 percent of 
the share of the GDP of all those NATO countries, and we 
provide 70 percent of the funding. I think the American 
taxpayer is getting a little weary, essentially, of subsidizing 
these Western democratic socialist states.
    When they are not investing in their military to defend 
their backyard, they are using that money on social programs 
that we may or may not agree with. But yet the United States 
continues to have to hold the bag. We are having legitimate 
questions today about delivery of weapons systems.
    But I would argue that if they were actually meeting what 
they should be doing on their own continent, Russian aggression 
would have either been deterred or Ukraine would have what they 
need. I want to ask about one country in particular, France.
    President Macron recently visited communist dictator Xi and 
said that it is not in Europe's interest to strongly support 
Taiwan and stand allied with the United States. I find this 
comment, by the way, totally insane.
    Do you have a sense that France is on their way to meeting 
their NATO obligations, this amount of funding? Because that is 
a pretty bold statement for the president of a country that 
kind of refuses to live up to their own commitments.
    General Cavoli. Senator, I, of course read the coverage of 
those comments and everything. I think I will leave commentary 
on them to my civilian leadership.
    Senator Schmitt. Fair enough.
    General Cavoli. I am a huge advocate of burden sharing, 
sir, and I believe the plans that we are working in NATO will 
create the blueprint to get to that.
    Senator Schmitt. Well, that is probably a question more for 
Secretary Blinken. General Van Ovost, I want to ask you, after 
the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan by President Biden, 
what was left behind was $48 million worth of ammunition, 80 
aircraft, 23,000 Humvees, 250,000 automatic rifles, 95 drones, 
42,000 pieces--42,000 pieces of night vision, surveillance, 
biometric, and positioning equipment.
    I mean, this is unbelievable, and of course, you were 
charged with scrambling and saving over 19,000 people from 
perhaps one of the most embarrassing moments in American 
foreign policy history. My question to you is, where did all 
that equipment go? Where is it? Do we know?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, I am not familiar with where 
the equipment is, but I can tell you that the Afghanistan 
retrograde presented a really unprecedented situation. We had a 
rapidly evolving security deterioration there on the ground, 
and I am proud of how the United States servicemembers were 
able to evacuate and take care of our Afghan citizens.
    Senator Schmitt. No, I agree, and I applaud you for that. 
In fact, a serviceman from Missouri, Jared Schmitz, lost his 
life that day. I don't think we talk about it enough. I mean, 
and I believe this would be bipartisan.
    What happened there is inexcusable. I just mentioned the 
equipment, not the loss of life, to compound all of that. I 
know you were charged with that, and just finally--well, I am 
out of time. I just--appreciate what you do, but the idea that 
we left all of that behind and lost those lives, and there is 
not a word of it.
    In fact, I guess the most recent report was trying to blame 
a previous Administration and inject politics into this, which 
was just an abject failure by this Administration and we ought 
to get to the bottom of it and make sure it never happens 
again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Schmitt. Senator Kaine. 
Excuse me. All right, Senator Rosen. Thank you.
    Senator Rosen. Thank you, Chairman Reed. I appreciate you 
holding this hearing. I would also like to thank Generals 
Cavalier and Van Ovost for testifying today, and for your 
service to our country. We really appreciate you.
    General Cavoli, I want to talk a little bit about Ukraine, 
obviously, with both of you and a potential Ukrainian 
counteroffensive, because Russia has committed significant 
manpower and equipment to launch offenses in Ukraine this past 
winter.
    We know that. Their gains have been limited and their 
losses, we also know, have seemed to be significant. 
Nonetheless, the defense of these towns has not come without 
cost to Ukraine.
    My colleagues have been asking about sending equipment to 
Ukraine. Talking about the counter-offensive, you have been 
speaking about that, and I just want to buildupon that for a 
moment.
    Let's just include drones in the conversation, right. What 
is your assessment of the use and effectiveness in the 
Ukrainian conflict of the short-range drones, the one-way 
attack anti-tank munitions that are being used right now?
    Can you also speak to what lessons we have learned about 
these kinds of weapons for our own force going on in the future 
and our defense industrial base?
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. That has been one of 
the most interesting developments in this conflict. It was 
prefigured a little bit during the Azerbaijan, Armenia war 2 
years ago, when Azerbaijan used unmanned aerial vehicles 
extremely effectively. Both sides are using them very 
extensively.
    Both sides are using surveillance drones, as well as armed 
drones, as well as one way attack drones. They meet varying 
degrees of success. They can be shot down. They can be shot 
down with small arms.
    They can be shot down with standard machine guns. They can 
mostly be shot down with missiles as well. They can also be 
stopped with electromagnetic interference, and we see that 
going both ways.
    That is providing a very good learning experience for us as 
we consult with the Ukrainians, and we are incorporating those 
through our services and through our commands--we are 
incorporating those lessons to stay ahead of that EMI 
[electromagnetic interference], especially.
    Some of them have been proven very effective and--as 
weapons, and some of them have proven pretty effective. We have 
been in an area of improvement, a cycle with regard to U.S. 
supplied drones, ma'am.
    Senator Rosen. Well, that is great. I am glad to--see, I 
like to followup with you on being sure we have enough R&D 
[research and development] and enough dollars in programs there 
for public partnerships, wherever that is, with Department of 
Defense, to expand these UAS [unmanned aircraft system] 
programs. They are really important.
    That leads me into my next question about defense 
innovation, because in 2021, NATO launched the Defense 
Innovation Accelerator for the North Atlantic. We call it 
DIANA. The goal of DIANA is to sharpen our technological edge 
by working with the private sector to integrate emerging dual 
use technologies and rapidly scale these innovations, because 
things are happening right as we speak, right on the 
battlefield.
    Lives are being lost and maybe these can help save that. 
The U.S. Government doesn't have the authority to contribute to 
R&D initiatives which received funding from other nations, so 
we would need to provide specific authority to allow the U.S. 
to make contributions to NATO DIANA by this October for us to 
have the opportunity to be a full participant.
    General Cavoli, again, would you support Congress providing 
the authority for us to contribute to DIANA and really be that 
innovator? Can you speak of the value for us to be part of this 
group with the entire NATO alliance?
    General Cavoli. As you know, Senator, DIANA is emerging 
right now. So far, they have got about 54 initiatives that they 
are working on, but the budget is fairly small. Defense 
innovation and then procurement is national business for the 
most part in NATO, but especially for allies without 
significant defense budget bases, it is useful to collaborate. 
I think the U.S. collaboration with them is great, and I would 
advocate such authority, ma'am.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, and I am going to build on 
that, too, because we know things are happening technologically 
faster than we can keep up oftentimes.
    As the war in Ukraine obviously has progressed, we have 
seen proliferation of the relatively cheap, easy to use, all 
the commercial drones that are out there. You can just buy them 
off--I mean, an internet website, right, for both intelligence, 
reconnaissance, for surveillance and kinetic missions.
    Can you maybe expand on us working again in whatever 
sectors we can here, public, private, to deliver advanced 
capabilities using some of these technologies that are emerging 
in the private sector?
    General Cavoli. Yes, ma'am, absolutely. I would advocate 
any way for us to innovate quicker and adopt things more 
quickly. With regard to the commercial drones, they have been 
very, very present on the battlefield in Ukraine. They tend to 
have a fairly limited lifespan, however.
    It is harder to find commercial drones that are adequately 
hardened against electromagnetic interference, for example. 
They have been enormously effective at the lowest levels for 
squads and things like that, to spot things.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you. I appreciate it. We will 
followup with you on all of these. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Kaine, 
please.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and to each of our 
witnesses for your service, I so appreciate it. General Cavoli, 
I want to sort of flag an issue that I don't really want you to 
answer.
    It may be inappropriate. It could be appropriate in the 
followup session that we will have that will be classified, but 
here is a concern. In my time on the Committee, and 
particularly in the last couple of years, I have sometimes been 
struck by blue skies scenarios being painted that turn out not 
to be accurate.
    A blue-sky case scenario about the capacity of the Afghan 
security force in the aftermath of the withdrawal turned out to 
be vastly overstated, and there was somewhat of an 
overestimation of the likelihood of Russia being dominant in 
the early days of the Ukraine investigation.
    Thank goodness that proved not to be true. In each 
instance, sort of what we were being told, the capacity of--our 
intelligence about the capacity of another military turned out 
to be overstated.
    The reason I am just flagging this now in the EUCOM domain 
is I have been part of three classified briefings about Ukraine 
one--two, and one in Foreign Relations on January 25th, two in 
SAS [Senate Armed Services] on February 2d and March 2d, where 
certain predictions or assessments were made about Ukrainian 
capacities' potential for the counteroffensive.
    When the leaked documents have come out, I have not looked 
at those documents, but I followed the public accounts of it, a 
lot of the accounts of the documents suggest internally in the 
Pentagon, maybe more skepticism than we were being messaged in 
the meetings that we had.
    Again, I don't think the right time is to talk about this 
now, but I hope during the next session that we have, we may 
dig into that a little bit because I want to make sure that the 
assessments being given to this Committee are the best current 
information so that we are not led to believe one thing, when 
there may be a lot of folks in the Pentagon thinking something 
else.
    I will leave that there, if I could, but I do think it is 
something we ought to discuss in the classified setting.
    General Cavoli. I look forward to that, sir.
    Senator Kaine. Great. General Van Ovost, I have got a 
couple for you. In the INDOPACOM, our ability to access 
logistics support is going to be absolutely critical, and there 
are some challenges because of distances across water that are 
not necessarily challenges elsewhere.
    How is TRANSCOM considering supporting the Joint Force in a 
contested logistics environment like the INDOPACOM?
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, Senator. When you think of 
every day we are postured to operate on a global scale, but our 
adversaries are growing in their capabilities to disrupt, 
degrade, or deny our ability and our freedom of maneuver that 
we haven't so enjoyed around the globe.
    In fact, as I think about European Command, in Europe, we 
enjoy very robust ground lines of communications and we are 
able to use essentially all of them, frankly, without 
impedance. As I think about the Indo-Pacific, we are going to 
be using more of fast sealift and air than we would be in 
ground like we are seeing.
    We have to change our tactics, techniques, and procedures. 
We are working with the services on their concepts to ensure 
that we can integrate and end across the entire deployment 
distribution enterprise, so we can deliver where and when 
Admiral Aquilino needs it.
    Senator Kaine. Then one other question in that space, 
global bulk fuel. Again, in the INDOPACOM, that can be 
particularly challenging. What are you doing to do planning 
around fuel accessibility to INDOPACOM missions?
    General Van Ovost. Senator, U.S. Transportation Command has 
been designated the single manager for global bulk fuel in this 
latest unified command plan that just came out. What we are 
doing is we are taking a new approach of synchronizing end to 
end fuel so that we can assuredly deliver where and when we 
need it in a contested environment.
    So, we are taking the very best of what DLA energy does to 
combine it with what we do for global command and control and 
prioritization and managing in this new environment. We are 
relooking in the posture of the fuel in the Pacific. That 
includes not only the stations, the places we are going to keep 
it both on land and on the water, as well as how we are going 
to maneuver fuel around that area.
    Let me just to add to that we have robust fuel capability 
in the European theater, as we did in the Central Command 
Theater. This is a concern we have right now.
    We are getting right after it with our tanker security 
program, with movement of fuel, and also with our ability to 
really look and give feasibility assess--a real feasibility 
assessment on the ability to do that war fight to the INDOPACOM 
Commander.
    I could not do it without your support for the Pacific 
Deterrence Initiative, which allows us the additional funds to 
do exercising interoperability, and to lay out the logistics 
posture that we are going to need in the future.
    Senator Kaine. Thank you both very much. I yield back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kaine. Senator Duckworth, 
please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Good morning to our 
witnesses. General Van Ovost, thank you for your discussion 
last week highlighting all the great work TRANSCOM is doing at 
Scott Air Force Base in Illinois.
    TRANSCOM is a linchpin of projecting and sustaining the 
force, key to our strategic deterrent. I also recognize that 
Joint Force sustainment is a Whole-of-Government and Whole-of-
Nation effort.
    TRANSCOM must coordinate and balance equities across 
multiple Government agencies, numerous industry partners, and 
diverse allies and partners in order to project and sustain 
combat power.
    General Van Ovost, I don't think enough people realize how 
complex your mission really is and how critical that message 
is, and how critical the people in TRANSCOM are to tackle their 
everyday mission.
    Can you speak just one example to the efforts that your 
Command is supporting right now, both at headquarters at Scott 
Air Force Base and around the world, just to paint a picture of 
how complex your mission is?
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, ma'am. We have discussed our 
key priority of supporting a European Command in supporting 
Ukraine and their defense. But beyond that, we have we have 
supported down the State Department with Sudan, with the with 
the support for moving the diplomats out of Sudan in this 
recent crisis.
    We were inside 24 hours of the devastating a series of 
earthquakes in Turkey. Our ability to launch out within 24 
hours, the urban search and rescue teams with the dogs and the 
cement breaking equipment to get to their rescue, as well as 
deliver a 100-bed field hospital.
    We are doing extensive exercises around the globe in almost 
every continent to increase the interoperability with our 
allies and partners, and to ensure access basing and overflight 
and agreements that is going to keep our freedom maneuver into 
the future.
    We are also, of course, doing the global bulk fuel mission, 
and of course, I can't forget our families. We are moving 
311,000 families a year all around the globe to achieve our 
mission.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. Your witness testimoneys both 
underscore your combatant command's effort to exercise the 
Joint Force. In EUCOM Exercise Defender Europe 24, General 
Cavoli and General Van Ovost.
    Defender Europe 24 assembled a division level formation on 
NATO's Eastern flank for the first time since the cold war, and 
I quote your testimony, ``TRANSCOM is regularly wargaming with 
partners and stakeholders to identify and close operational 
gaps, to strengthen deterrence, and develop new concepts to 
prevail.''
    If both of you could answer this question, can you explain 
how your combatant commands exercise with each other and other 
combatant commands? What is the relationship between geographic 
and functional combatant commands as the Joint Force looks to 
exercise, experiment, and integrate new tools and capabilities? 
I know I am very macro today.
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator. That is a great 
question because it gives me an opportunity to talk the moment 
about TRANSCOM. Geographic combat commands are responsible for 
delivering military results in a specific AOR.
    There are other commands that are in charge of a specific 
function, usually globally. General Van Ovost oversee obviously 
does transportation. Everything in USEUCOM depends on the 
reinforcement that Jackie's forces can provide from CONUS.
    It is remarkable. We exercise it literally every day, 
ma'am, for routine movements, for rotational force movements, 
as well as for exercises. I said in my opening statement, there 
is literally nothing in the world like U.S. Transportation 
Command.
    General Van Ovost. Thanks, ma'am. We are participating in 
extensive series of exercises across the joint portfolio that 
allow us to increase our capabilities to test new concepts, and 
frankly, old concepts like convoy operations with not only the 
United States and our allies and partners.
    I appreciate the comments from General Cavoli. Functional 
combatant commanders do bring extensive experience in our 
specific areas of space, strategic nuclear deterrence, and in 
transportation, and it is an honor to work with them.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. General Van Ovost, we had a 
good conversation about aeromedical evacuations, and I would 
like to expand on that a little bit, especially as it applies 
in a contested environment and the vast distances of our 
Nation's Joint Force that we might be facing in the future, 
especially in the Indo-Pacific region.
    Can you speak to efforts currently underway at U.S. 
TRANSCOM to bolster the critical aeromedical evacuation 
capability? Also, what are you doing to provide our wounded 
servicemembers rapid access to medical care?
    Because we talked about maybe they have to go someplace in 
between, especially when you are in a place like the South 
Pacific.
    General Van Ovost. Thank you, ma'am. This is a critical 
question. You know, we performed brilliantly over decades, with 
the golden----
    Senator Duckworth. I know.
    General Van Ovost.--and countless people saved, ma'am, 
yourself included. But, in a near-peer, a global power contest, 
we expect high casualty rates. In fact, I expect to be able to 
have to move the same amount of patients I moved in 2022, the 
entire year, on a weekly basis.
    We have got to do something differently, and here is what 
we are going to do. We are working with other partner nations 
to try to understand what capabilities that they have, both in 
theater and their movement capabilities.
    We are working with the services on a multimodal platform 
to move patients in mass form. We are working on innovative 
capabilities for patient movement items, and we are also 
looking at ability to have smaller crews of people work on 
larger numbers of patients via using wireless and talking to 
doctors that are on the ground while we are in the air.
    We want to bring all of this together to try to reduce the 
risk. To your point on allies and partners, where there is 
capacity with allies and partners, we are looking into 
agreements to try and ensure that they will be able to support 
us as an interim location until we can get them back to the 
United States.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Senator 
Manchin, please.
    Senator Manchin. Thank you, Senator. Thank you all for your 
service, everybody here. I appreciate it very much. General 
Cavoli, I just had the pleasure of being able to go to Ukraine 
and speak with Zelensky, and I was with Senator Kelly and 
Senator Murkowski.
    It was a great trip. We learned an awful lot about them, 
and we talked directly to them. Our main concern was 
transparency. For every dollar that we are sending in, for 
every bullet that we are sending, they are making sure it is 
being accounted for and used properly. That was our biggest 
concern.
    We took it to everybody we talked to in Poland. Also, we 
went to the staging area in Poland and they told us that after 
it leaves there, that the tracking is not as good from once 
they leave it in Poland, put in the theater.
    We are trying to work with our Ambassador there, Brink. She 
has, and with a little bit of help there, some personnel, she 
will be able to track it much better, but they are staying on 
top of it. I left very satisfied knowing that we have good 
grasp, and they, knowing how sensitive this is, because the 
naysayers that we have, and you have them everywhere to a 
certain extent, but they are a minority.
    I don't want to give them any credence whatsoever or 
credibility that something happened wrong. We shouldn't be 
sending equipment, we shouldn't be supporting, and we shouldn't 
be financing it. How do you feel about that, and you are, I am 
sure, tracking the same thing.
    General Cavoli. Thank you, Senator, and thank you for your 
recent trip, and thanks to your staff for sharing your after-
action review of your trip. It also was very useful to us. I 
feel confident that there has not been specific illicit 
transfer or pilfering of material.
    I believe we are aware of one case reported to us by the 
Ukrainians of a couple of automatic rifles that were attempted 
to be diverted and those guys have been arrested there. By and 
large, this is an extremely strong effort that we are putting 
out.
    We recognize how challenging it is. However, a couple of 
things about the way we do it. When things go to the staging 
base in Uchanka, Poland there, we inventory all of that at that 
point.
    Senator Manchin. Right. I saw the clipboard. I saw those 
pasties on the board.
    General Cavoli. We ingest it into a computer software 
system that we have given to the Ukrainians that we maintain 
access to. So, we can track their tracking of it.
    Senator Manchin. Where they are putting the equipment.
    General Cavoli. Exactly, and, you know, so it--we track it.
    Senator Manchin. Let me just say--I know our time is 
limited. I want to say a couple of things here. I truly believe 
that we are not telling our story. With the amount of support 
that we are putting in and all of our allies, there is always 
going to be a hiccup.
    Something is going to go wrong. We haven't built a base of 
how well we are regulating and staying on top of this and 
monitoring and the transparency. Zelensky said it once to me in 
an hour and a half we were there. He said that 10, 15 times. 
Bring a hundred people and observe what we are doing.
    We are happy to share. Do whatever you want, and if you see 
something wrong, let me know, because we are looking for it, 
too. We are not telling that from our side of it and it is not 
being--and I just think that we need to get ahead of this 
because that way--there is an old saying, tell your story 
before they tell one on you.
    As soon as they see something wrong, they are going to blow 
it out of proportion. There is so much good support that we are 
giving him and so much valiant fighting that they are doing, I 
just don't want to lose that.
    General Cavoli. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to 
tell part of the story, sir. Our defense attache office has 
been diligently going----
    Senator Manchin. Tell the press--tell your press people to 
start putting things out. We are happy to work with them. We 
are happy to coordinate with you all to put out what we saw 
firsthand, and the confidence we had, I will put a statement 
out. I am happy to continue that.
    General Cavoli. Thanks, Senator.
    Senator Manchin. Let me throw this at you, too. I am 
concerned now about our Baltic allies and Albania, Bulgaria, 
Croatia, Montenegro, Northern Macedonia, Romania, and Slovenia. 
They are all kind of tied into this TurkStream, Okay.
    The same as the Nord Stream is tied into Europe. They are 
tied in TurkStream. We know exactly what Putin will do. He used 
energy as a weapon. Are we doing anything so that they don't 
get caught in the same thing that our allies did up in Europe?
    General Cavoli. Sir. Thanks. Of course, the closure of Nord 
Stream and the weaning off of Russian gas through much of 
Europe has been an incredible success story of the last year. 
It is not universal, however, as you point out.
    Senator Manchin. We have got a lot of vulnerability down 
here and he will have the same playbook.
    General Cavoli. Exactly, sir, it is the exact same 
playbook. So, we worked with them to wean off it. We are not 
the lead agency on that. I defer to the Secretary of State or 
the Department of State for specifics on what exactly they are 
doing. But we are operationally not dependent----
    Senator Manchin. Okay. I will reach out to them because 
being chair--I am chairman of their Energy Committee----
    General Cavoli. Yes, sir.
    Senator Manchin. We want to do everything we can to 
basically back them up so they don't get caught exactly like 
how our European allies did.
    General Cavoli. It strategically would be very welcomed by 
EUCOM and NATO.
    Senator Manchin. Can you briefly comment on developments 
regarding Turkey's relationship with NATO? I just can't believe 
that here they are holding up the Swedes, Okay. Made it very 
difficult for the Finns and they are playing footsie with the 
Russians. It makes no sense to me at all.
    General Cavoli. Sir, clearly there is a lot of policy 
wrapped in there and I will defer to my civilian leaders on 
those questions. I would point out, sir, that there is a sharp 
difference between our military relationships and our other 
relationships when it comes to some countries.
    I was just down in Antakya with the minister of defense in 
the Turkish charter a couple of days ago, looking at the 
humanitarian assistance that we have provided through the U.S. 
and NATO for the earthquake. I would just point out there is a 
pretty distinct difference between our military relationship--
--
    Senator Manchin. Well, they--I am so sorry, Mr. Chairman. 
But they didn't they acquired the S-400 from the Russians?
    General Cavoli. Oh, yes, sir.
    Senator Manchin. Canceled the F-35?
    General Cavoli. That is exactly right.
    Senator Manchin. Yes. So, you are saying I need to take 
this in a different direction? I got you----
    General Cavoli. The policy issues, sir----
    Senator Manchin. I got it, sir. I got it. I will too. Thank 
you both and thank all of you for your service. I appreciate it 
more than you know.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Manchin. General Cavoli, 
General Van Ovost, thank you for your testimony. I look forward 
to the closed session, in which will reconvene at 12:30 p.m. in 
SVC-217, after the address by the South Korean President, I am 
sure one of the issues that might come up is the Abrams tank.
    I understand that there are some significant issues 
involving transferring Abrams tanks to any place in the world, 
one of which I think can be publicly discussed here is that it 
operates on something closer to jet fuel than diesel, which 
makes the creation of independent supply lines by the 
Ukrainians essential to use.
    There is also the issue of training, and the fact that our 
European allies, I believe, just brought thousands of tanks 
which are more familiar to the Ukrainian forces, which obviates 
the training issues related to the Abrams tank.
    I think all those issues have to be explored in the closed 
session. I think also, General Van Ovost, a real serious 
discussion about contested logistics, particularly in the 
Pacific, would be appropriate. So let me see if there is 
anything else. No, I believe that--oh, one other point, General 
Cavoli is that there has been discussion about reevaluating, 
which you are, our plans for Europe, looking at the depletion 
of Russian forces.
    But I think you are also considering the fact that many of 
our NATO forces have depleted themselves of equipment, and 
other factors that have to be included in the evaluation. So, 
it is not simply looking at Russia and saying, well, they are 
much weaker now than they were. Is that correct?
    General Cavoli. Absolutely, and it is very difficult to 
speak about it in open session for operational security 
reasons.
    Chairman Reed. I understand. Well, I think we have got a 
lot to talk about. So, I will adjourn this open hearing and 
look forward to seeing you at 12:30 p.m. in SVC-217. Thank you.
    [Whereupon, at 10:20 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

           Questions Submitted by Senator Angus S. King, Jr.
                               technology
    It's clear to me that we're witnessing the future of warfare in 
Ukraine. The United States Army, Security Assistance Group-Ukraine, and 
Ukrainians have harnessed commercial technology and successfully 
integrated and deployed Artificial Intelligence-powered software on the 
battlefield.

    1. Senator King. General Cavoli, how much of a role is software 
playing in the current conflict and what lessons should the U.S. learn 
about adopting and deploying new technology at a pace required by the 
warfighter?
    General Cavoli. We are at a turning point in the role of Artificial 
Intelligence (AI) on the battlefield. The Ukrainian Armed Forces have 
incorporated new technology and AI applications with impressive speed 
and agility. They have proven highly adept in the deployment of AI 
applications to enhance battlefield intelligence, and to improve the 
lethality of weapons and tactics used against Russian forces.
    AI technology is advancing rapidly; our culture must adapt with 
equal speed. We must train our workforce to utilize these new tools and 
increase experimentation to test and refine new technologies alongside 
Allies and partners in the European theater. Significant investments 
will be needed in the future to upgrade the digital infrastructure 
necessary to support and leverage these new capabilities. As 
demonstrated by the Ukrainian Armed Forces' successes, early adoption, 
integration and cultural acceptance are all critical components to 
future success in fielding potentially disruptive new technologies.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    2. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, do you agree that if funding is 
needed for a project, it should be a part of the command/service 
budget?
    General Cavoli. Yes. USEUCOM works with the Department of Defense 
(DOD) to identify priorities for inclusion into the annual budget 
process.

    3. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, historically, have previous 
unfunded priorities list items been included in the following year's 
base budget? Have Unfunded Priorities Lists items from fiscal year 2023 
been included in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please 
provide detail including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor 
executing the effort. If no, why not?
    General Cavoli. USEUCOM did not submit an unfunded priority list 
for the fiscal year 2023 budget; instead we thanked Congress for 
Ukraine Supplemental Funding.

    4. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, do you agree that Federal 
agencies should be required to work within the confines of base budget 
process?
    General Cavoli. Yes. However, there are instances where the 
Administration seeks our advice for supplemental appropriations such as 
Ukraine Supplemental funding.

    5. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, Secretary of Defense Austin 
supports legislation that would repeal the requirement for individual 
leaders to submit unfunded priority lists under 10 U.S.C. 222a. He 
stated this publicly in a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on 
March 28, 2023 and in a letter that Under Secretary Michael J. McCord 
sent on behalf on Secretary Austin to me on March 20, 2023. Do you plan 
to continue to submit unfunded priority lists?
    General Cavoli. I intend to comply with the requirements as written 
in 10 U.S.C. 222a. If the requirements change, I will comply with the 
new requirements.

    6. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, if you plan to submit unfunded 
priority lists in the future, why are you doing so despite Secretary of 
Defense Austin's support for the repeal of these required lists?
    General Cavoli. As directed by 10 U.S.C. 222a, if requirements are 
identified that the Department is unable to resource within the base 
budget, I will submit an Unfunded Priority List.

                information on unfunded priorities lists
    7. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what was the cost of putting 
together this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General Cavoli. The cost of creating the fiscal year 2024 list of 
unfunded priorities was approximately $36,000 in DOD Labor.

For each item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in response to 
10 U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:

    8. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, please provide a detailed 
description of the Unfunded Priorities Lists.
    General Cavoli. European Communications Infrastructure (ECI) funds 
the modernization of communications infrastructure and facilities at 
United States Air Forces Europe (USAFE) air bases that eroded over the 
last two decades. Total fiscal year 2024 request: $81.24 million.
    Air Base Air Defense (ABAD) funds require capabilities to defend 
USEUCOM's air bases from air and missile threats with a scalable, 
deployable, and readily transferable system. Total fiscal year 2024 
request: $78.27 million.

    9. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what does the Unfunded 
Priorities Lists purchase?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) If funded, ECI would modernize communications 
infrastructure at USAFE air bases throughout the USEUCOM theater, in 
order to reduce single points of failure at Technical Control 
Facilities (TCF) and Point of Presence (POP) facilities. Communications 
fiber infrastructure requires significant upgrades to support 
operational needs at both Main Operating Bases (MOBs) and 
Geographically Separated Units (GSUs). Many of USAFE's MOBs and GSUs 
are unable to fully support communications requirements and suffer from 
severe network outages, lack of bandwidth, and periodic degradation of 
network services. Funds would procure fiber optic cables, routers, 
switches, firewalls, and uninterruptable power supplies. Additionally, 
ECI funds would specifically purchase Secret Internet Protocol Router 
Network (SIPR) Service Delivery Point servers, terminal application 
processing systems, Non-Classified Internet Protocol Router Network 
(NIPR) delivery point servers, high speed data transfer capabilities, 
and data center connection redundancy.
    (ABAD) Additional funding for ABAD would be leveraged to enhance 
close-in protection for aircraft and personnel operating in bases 
throughout Europe. This funding would purchase multi-mode radars 
similar to those currently used in the National Capital Region (NCR), 
and operator consoles with communication and data packages. These 
systems enable defense of critical infrastructure, and U.S. Forces. All 
equipment and software is Technology Readiness Level 9 and is ready to 
purchase off the shelf.

    10. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, please include detail on all 
end items with quantities, contractor Full Time Equivalent, etc.
    General Cavoli.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                                   Total
         ECI             Description      Cost of   Appropriation   Cost
                                         Equipment       ($K)       ($M)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Upgrade Technical
 Control Facilities
 Bandwidth (5 sites)
                      Upgrading
Cost per site is $4.   antiquated
 623M:                 technical
Incirlik, Turkey       control
Ankara, Turkey         facilities with
Moron, Spain           fiber inside
Sigonella, Italy       and outside the
Rota, Spain            plant,
                       uninterruptible
                       power sources,
                       switches,
                       routers, and
                       data encryption
                       hardware to
                       handle
                       increased
                       bandwidth to
                       mitigate
                       latency issues.
 
                                        Fiber:
 
  
                                                    3080: $12,500  $23.1
------------------------------------------------------------------------
eLMR Modernization    Modernize
                       Enterprise Land
                       Mobile Radio
                       (eLMR) systems
                       that support
                       flight line
                       operations,
                       first
                       responders, and
                       air base
                       defense.
                       Upgrading
                       switches and
                       routers that
                       connect 18
                       sites to
                       enterprise LMR
                       assets
                       throughout the
                       theater.
                                        Switches:
                                                    3080: $1,500   $1.5
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Secondary boundary
 upgrades:
 
Alconbury and
 Molesworth $1.1M
 
Akrotiri $532K
 
Aviano $2.5M
Croughton $1.6M
 
Incirlik $1.6M
 
Lajes $1.6M
Lakenheath $2.9M
 
Mildenhall $1.9M
                      Address           SIPR
Moron $532K            secondary or      Service
Ramstein $1.7M         backup base       Delivery
Spangdahlem $1.9M      boundaries at     Point
                       all MOBs and      Servers
                       GSUs on NIPRNet  12 x
                       and SIPRNet:      $217.7K !
                       Servers for       $2.6M
                       firewall,
                       console
                       switches,
                       routers, cyber
                       security
                       boundary
                       monitoring.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                    3080: $18,843
                                                                   $19.0
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Commercial Solutions  Purchase and
 for Classified at     install NSA's
 three locations:      Commercial
Ramstein               Solutions for
Aviano                 Classified
Lakenheath             program
                       including the
                       Mobile Access
                       Capability
                       Package.
 
                                        Commercial
 
 
 
 
 
                                                    3400: $22,033  $22.0
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Deployable Air
 BasePSystem (DABS)
                      Extends base      NIPR
Communications         networks to       Service
 Support               DABS facilities   Delivery
                                         Point
                                         Servers
                                        8 x
                                         $390.7K !
                                         $3.1M
 
 
 
 
                                                    3080: $4,660   $4.66
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tactical to Enduring  Standardized      Fiber
 Standard              communications   3 sites x
 Communications        package           $1M = $3M
 PackageP(3            including
 Sites):PCampia        primary and
 Turzi, Lask, and      alternate
 Grafenwohr            terrestrial
                       circuits,
                       manhole
                       distribution
                       system, base
                       fiber ring, and
                       wiring.
 
 
 
 
                                                    3080: $10,454  $10.4
------------------------------------------------------------------------
ABAD                  Radar systems,    Sentinel
 SystemPProcurement    associated        Radars
                       consoles,        3 x $5.79M
                       illuminators,     = $17.37M
                       communications
                       and buildout
                       costs
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                                                    3080:          $66.4
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Operations            Network           Network
 andPMaintenance       Sustainment,      Sustainme
 Costs                 Contractors,      nt
                       Flight Plan      1 x $1.05M
                       Service           = $1.05M
 
                                                    3400:          $11.8
------------------------------------------------------------------------


    11. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what specific 
capability will the Unfunded Priorities Lists provide?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) ECI will enable Forward Operating 
Locations (FOLs) to reliably communicate with supporting 
forces, command structures, as well as Ally and partner forces. 
ECI will also enhance infrastructure resiliency at Main 
Operating Bases (MOBs), while providing forward deployed forces 
reach-back support through resilient and survivable 
communications services.
    (ABAD) The ABAD system will provide active defense and 
enhance the passive defense of fixed and deployed assets in 
theater to discourage and deter future attacks. Strategic 
guidance and threat assessments available at higher 
classification levels document the operational imperative to 
develop and/or acquire ABAD capabilities. ABAD is intended to 
protect bases and critical infrastructure in order to project 
combat power and minimize risk to Joint Force Commanders.

    12. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what gap will this fill 
that is not in the base budget?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Our ECI funding request is intended 
to help build a more robust, resilient, and survivable Command, 
Control, Communications, Computers, and Intelligence (C4I) 
System in the USEUCOM theater. This C4I investment would build 
greater domain awareness and enable agile combat coordination. 
ECI's multi-domain critical infrastructure network provides ISR 
and C2 mission assurance for weapon systems and OPLAN 
execution, enables Combined Joint All-Domain Command and 
Control (CJADC2) and Agile Combat Employment (ACE) to support 
USEUCOM operations and NATO Allies and partners' 
interoperability.
    (ABAD) Funding this submission contributes to the air base 
air defense capability gap. USEUCOM's air bases have limited 
options to identify and eliminate air and missile attack 
threats, which pose significant operational risk. They require 
advance warning to implement their resource-limited dispersal 
plans. Critical missions such as air superiority, global 
strike, ISR, rapid global mobility, and C2 will be impeded at 
USEUCOM bases that lack the ability to defend themselves 
against adversary aircraft, missile, and unmanned aerial 
systems.

    13. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, how will this 
capability support objectives outlined in current National 
Security, Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General Cavoli. My unfunded priorities are firmly nested 
within the National Security (NSS), National Defense (NDS), and 
National Military (NMS) strategies, and directly support the 
NDS's priorities to deter strategic attacks and aggression.
    (ECI) ECI supports the NSS's objective to provide a 
tailored deterrence approach to mitigate the risk of strategic 
attacks. ECI will reduce risk by increasing our ability to 
seamlessly integrate Joint, Alliance, and partner Command and 
Control (C2) architectures into our networks. It will deter 
aggression through the development of increased C2 resiliency, 
which undermines Russia's ability to achieve their objectives 
through coordinated Joint, Allied, and partner action. It will 
also improve the C2 infrastructure required to support and 
expand intelligence capabilities that provide decisive 
information and decision advantage to the U.S., Ally, and 
partner leadership. This contributes to integrated deterrence, 
both within the Department and alongside our Allies.
    Additionally, ECI directly supports the NDS's objective to 
build a more resilient Joint Force. ECI addresses one of the 
key operational problems, Command, Control, Communications, and 
Computers systems with a diverse and resilient C2 capability. 
This effort will help to build agile, resilient, and survivable 
Command, Control, Communications, and Computers, Intelligence, 
Surveillance, and Reconnaissance architecture that supports the 
Alliance and Joint Force.
    (ABAD) ABAD supports the NDS's priority to deter strategic 
attacks, protect forces, and integrate with Allies and 
partners. ABAD provides defense of air operations, ensuring 
USEUCOM will be able to withstand, fight through, and recover 
from disruption to air operations. Cooperation with Allies and 
partners will enhance our collective integrated air and missile 
defense efforts. Such cooperation strengthens our collective 
efforts to increase protection from regional missile threats, 
coercion, and potential attacks.
    ABAD also helps to deter Russian aggression through the 
improvement of our ability to project, generate, and sustain 
combat power. This capability introduces uncertainty and risk 
to the adversary's decision calculus, adds resilience to the 
Joint Force, and better prepares our forces to prevail in 
conflict.
    If funded, both of these capabilities will contribute 
greatly to the safety of the Homeland, United States troops 
stationed in Europe, and our NATO Allies and partners.

    14. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what is the operational 
requirement? How does this Unfunded Priorities Lists support 
current or future operations?
    General Cavoli. ECI enables Forward Operating Locations to 
reliably communicate with supporting forces, command 
structures, as well as Allies and partners. It will also 
enhance infrastructure resiliency at Main Operating Bases, 
while providing forward deployed forces reach back support 
through resilient and survivable services. Most of USAFE's MOBs 
and GSUs currently support Eastern Flank operations. This 
funding request is intended to address single points of failure 
and facility issues to avoid major IT outages that could 
potentially affect current operations.
    ABAD was identified in the 2022 Chief of Staff of the Air 
Force's Strategic Requirements Document, to protect critical 
mission capabilities and infrastructure from growing air and 
missile threats. This requirement is intended to improve our 
ability to project, generate, and sustain combat power in 
contested environments. This unfunded priority list submission 
provides an organic, self-defense capability for U.S. airbases 
now, while simultaneously baselining a model for future 
employment. Establishing a baseline base defense capability 
will hasten the development of airspace control de-confliction 
and coordination processes between U.S. base defense 
authorities and their respective NATO host nation civilian 
authorities.

    15. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what is the operational 
impact if this Unfunded Priorities Lists is not funded in 
fiscal year 2024?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Our current communications 
infrastructure provides insufficient support to permanent and 
rotational forces supporting NATO operations. Without near term 
action to improve the resiliency of USEUCOM's aging and 
inadequate network infrastructure, reliable C2 operations and 
air superiority will remain at risk. Ultimately, this 
translates into greater risk to both force and mission 
throughout the spectrum of conflict.
    (ABAD) Without adequate resourcing, USAFE operations, 
infrastructure, personnel, and C2 will remain vulnerable to 
theater missile and air attacks. USEUCOM air bases have limited 
options to mitigate the strategic air and missile attack 
threat, requiring advance warning to implement resource-limited 
dispersal plans, retaining significant operational risk and 
reduced capability and flexibility.

    16. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, are there plans to 
include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Project completion and sustainment 
funding will be pursued in the fiscal year 2025 budget.
    (ABAD) While funding to address the ABAD shortfall is being 
pursued, it is not included in the USAF fiscal year 2025 POM at 
this time.

    17. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, why was this Unfunded 
Priorities Lists not included in the fiscal year 2024 
President's Budget submission?
    General Cavoli. Both requirements were submitted to the 
Department of the Air Force, and considered by OSD CAPE, but 
ultimately fell below the funding cut line.

    18. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what is the name of the 
vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) All hardware, services, and support 
purchased via contract will use full and open competition. 
USAFE expects multiple vendors to be involved. Many MOBs and 
GSUs require local vendors or contractors to accomplish outside 
plant work, which will have to be taken into consideration. 
Examples of vendors that would be used include Defense 
Infrastructure Organization (for UK sites), Huntington Ingalls 
Industries, Defense Logistics Agency, and General Services 
Administration. Some work may be accomplished using organic 
(active duty or National Guard) resources or support from the 
Defense Information Systems Agency.
    (ABAD) Commercial vendors include Parsons using existing 
USAFE Indefinite Delivery, Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ), and sub-
vendors Raytheon, Trident Corp, and Mercury Solutions.
    In academia, MIT Lincoln Labs contributes via federally 
Funded Research and Development Centers.
    Within Government, the Army Aviation and Missile Command, 
Air Force Research Lab Strategic Development Planning and 
Experimentation, and NORAD-USNORTHCOM also contribute.

    19. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, how often has your 
command met with the vendor executing this effort? Please 
provide a list of all such meetings, and the agenda for these 
meetings?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) USAFE A6 has cost estimates that were 
accomplished for various sites by multiple vendors. There are a 
variety of meetings to track these critical funding 
requirements, including monthly project management reviews and 
cross organizational synchs with multiple stakeholders.
    (ABAD) USAFE has a day-to-day relationship with the prime 
vendor due to the existing IDIQ. Meetings with other industry, 
academia, and Government vendors occur at least weekly as USAFE 
develops it's first-ever Ground Based Air Defense-Self-Defense 
Capability.

    20. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what is your history 
with this vendor? Please detail when the relationship began, 
the number of contracts applied for by this vendor, the number 
of contracts awarded to this vendor, and if you have had a 
personal relationship with the vendor.
    General Cavoli. I do not have a personal relationship with 
the vendors. The United States Air Force manages the contracts 
and maintains relationships with vendors that could execute, or 
are currently executing those projects.
    (ECI) USAFE representatives manage contracts with the 
vendors listed above and have used their services to support 
many of the Eastern Flank site stand up efforts.
    (ABAD) The USAF representative overseeing the contract is 
Ms. Nancy Andrews, Program Executive Officer for Combat and 
Mission Support, Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Air 
Force for Acquisition. IDIQ is with Parsons (Prime) and a team 
of sub-contractors (see #18). This contract began in late 2021 
and continues for the next 7 years.

    21. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, has anyone who formerly 
worked for your command represented the vendor in meetings? 
What is their name, what was their position, and when did you 
meet with them?
    General Cavoli. No former employees have formally 
represented any vendors at meetings or other forums. 
Furthermore, contracting procedures require us to identify and 
avoid potential conflicts of interest.

    22. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, in which city/State 
will the Unfunded Priorities Lists be executed?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) All locations for support are located 
in USEUCOM's theater, to inlude: Ramstein AB, Germany; Aviano 
AB, Italy; Spangdahlem AB, Germany; Incirlik AB, Turkey; RAF 
Lakenheath, UK; RAF Mildenhall, UK; and associated 
geographically separated units.
    (ABAD) Rhineland Palatinate, Germany is the site of final 
system assembly, integration and installation related to this 
unfunded priority. However, procurement of the primary systems 
come from Fullerton, California; Fulton, Maryland; Huntsville, 
Alabama; Panama City, Florida, and a variety of other 
nationwide locations hosting Industry and Government.

    23. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, is this requirement on 
an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the history of 
the contract?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Depending on the commodity or 
service, USAFE has numerous options for contract support.
    (ABAD) Yes, USEUCOM would use the existing IDIQ contract 
for USAFE, specifically for this purpose. Oversight for this 
IDIQ is provided by Ms. Nancy Andrews, Program Executive 
Officer for Combat and Mission Support, Office of the Assistant 
Secretary of the Air Force for Acquisition. The IDIQ is with 
Parsons (Prime) and a team of sub-contractors. This contract 
began in late 2021 and continues for the next 7 years.

    24. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what is the anticipated 
contract award date if the Unfunded Priorities Lists receives 
funding?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Contract award date would be 
approximately 90-120 days following receipt of funding.
    (ABAD) Contract award date would be approximately 90 to 120 
days following receipt of funding.
    25. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what funding lines are 
associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General Cavoli.

(ECI)

 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  Line Item      Program    Sub-Activity
     Appropriation (APPN)           (LI)      Element (PE)   Group (SAG)
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Other Procurement, Air Force             54      0303055F          011Z
 (3080F)
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Operations & Maintenance, Air           090      0303055F          011Z
 Force (3400F)
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(ABAD)

 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  Line Item      Program    Sub-Activity
     Appropriation (APPN)           (LI)      Element (PE)   Group (SAG)
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Other Procurement, Air Force             34      0207522F           012C
 (3080F)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Operations & Maintenance, Air           110      0207522F           012C
 Force (3400F)
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    26. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations 
be funded simultaneously to source this requirement, or can 
each appropriation stand on its own to fund a portion of the 
requirement?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Each sub-project we have identified 
above must be completed simultaneously, for example the Tech 
Control Facility should be funded simultaneously (e.g., Other 
Procurement, USAF, 3080: $12,500K; Operations & Maintenance, 
USAF, 3400: $10,615K) because of dependencies in the project. 
However, separate projects can stand on their own.
    (ABAD) This project requires the appropriations to be 
funded simultaneously.

    27. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, how much was enacted 
and obligated (or expended for Research, Development, Test, & 
Evaluations) in fiscal year 2022 to 2023 for this requirement?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) In fiscal year 2022, $3.409 million 
was enacted and obligated in the Ukraine Supplemental funding 
to address equipment requirements supporting Forward Operating 
Locations. An additional $48.405 million was enacted and 
obligated in Ukraine Supplemental funding during fiscal year 
2023 for modernization efforts that addressed ECI requirements.
    (ABAD) USAFE realigned and obligated $31.45 million (3400F) 
and $27.78 million (3080F) from within the fiscal year 2022 and 
fiscal year 2023 budgets to initially design and conduct risk-
reduction work to prepare for a full-up ABAD capability.

    28. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, how much was requested 
in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General Cavoli. ECI total fiscal year 2024 request: $81.24 
million.
    ABAD total fiscal year 2024 request: $78.27 million.

    29. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, is there a tail 
associated with this Unfunded Priorities Lists?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Yes, the tail associated with this 
UPL is $3 million per year in operations and maintenance, Air 
Force costs.
    (ABAD) Yes, to operate and maintain the systems USAFE is 
anticipating a $10.5 million annual sustainment tail.

    30. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, is any tail funded in 
the future years defense plan?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) No, the $3 million tail funding has 
not been funded in the future years defense plan, but will be 
addressed from within existing funds enacted for theater Air 
Force communications capability sustainment.
    (ABAD) No, the $10.5 million annual sustainment tail is not 
funded in the future year's defense plan.

    31. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, please describe how 
much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 years.
    General Cavoli. (ECI) In addition to the total fiscal year 
2024 request of $81.24 million, an additional $12 million is 
required to sustain the project out to fiscal year 2028 for a 
total cost of $93.24 million.
    (ABAD) In addition to the total fiscal year 2024 request of 
$78.27 million, an additional $42 million is required to 
sustain the project out to fiscal year 2028, for a total cost 
of $120.27 million.

    32. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, please provide in 
detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this 
requirement, including if it was in the base budget or Unfunded 
Priorities Lists.
    General Cavoli. (ECI) fiscal year 2022 NDAA included 
authorization for $55 million in response to a USEUCOM UPL for 
modernizing IT infrastructure, but was not appropriated.

 
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                                     Appropriation                          Program Element   Sub-Activity Group
 Fiscal Year 2022 Shortfall ($K)        (APPN)          Line Item (LI)           (PE)                (SAG)
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$55,000                                       3080F           07-837300             303055F                011Z
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    (ABAD) No previous requests to fund this requirement were 
accepted or included in the base budget.

    33. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, if the requirement is 
not included in the future years defense plan, will that be 
rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the 
Program, Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General Cavoli. (ECI) Yes, the USAF fiscal year 2025 to 
fiscal year 2029 POM includes funding to address this effort by 
fiscal year 2029.
    (ABAD) No, the USAF fiscal year 2025 to fiscal year 2029 
POM does not include funding to address and sustain this 
effort.
    34. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, please provide photos 
of this requirement for visual aid.
    General Cavoli.
(ECI)
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(ABAD)
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                     EUROPEAN DETERRENCE INITIATIVE

    35. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, the Department of 
Defense finally submitted the previous reports on European 
Deterrence Initiative (EDI) required by Section 1243 of the 
Fiscal Year 2020 National Defense Authorization Act. Has United 
States Europe Command submitted the information necessary to 
project the future years plan on European Deterrence Initiative 
activities and resources for the fiscal year 2024 budget 
request as required under the Fiscal Year 2020 National Defense 
Authorization Act?
    General Cavoli. Yes.

    36. Senator Warren. General Cavoli, what does United States 
European Command project to be future spending in European 
Deterrence Iniative over the next 5 years given the ongoing 
conflict in Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. We currently project EDI associated funding 
to be:

    Fiscal Year 2024: $3.6 billion
    Fiscal Year 2025: $3.4 billion
    Fiscal Year 2026: $3.4 billion
    Fiscal Year 2027: $3.3 billion
    Fiscal Year 2028: $3.3 billion

    Additionally, future spending in the EDI should remain 
flexible and adaptable to accommodate potential changes in the 
security landscape. The conflict in Ukraine is dynamic, and new 
developments will arise over the next 5 years that could 
require adjustments in resource allocation. We will continue to 
conduct robust assessments and reviews to ensure that funding 
aligns with the evolving security needs across EDI's five lines 
of effort. It is important to note that this appears to be an 
enduring problem that will not be resolved in the near term.

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             Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin III

                             UKRAINE CODEL

    37. Senator Manchin. General Cavoli, based purely on your 
military experience and advice, are you satisfied that Ukraine 
is a good steward of the equipment and funding that United 
States taxpayers are providing to them?
    General Cavoli. Ukraine continues to demonstrate their 
commitment to effectively and responsibly employ United States-
provided security assistance to counter Russian aggression. 
Equipment and donated materiel are monitored with the best in-
transit visibility available, utilizing numerous systems, data 
bases, coordination cells, and auditing backstops. In light of 
this robust monitoring regime, we have not seen any credible 
evidence that would suggest the diversion of United States-
provided weapons from Ukraine.

    38. Senator Manchin. General Cavoli, based off of Putin's 
thirty-year history of destabilizing Russia to put himself in 
power then using the same tactics in Crimea, Georgia, Moldova, 
Syria, and Libya, what risk does Putin pose to our allies and 
the United States directly if we allow him to succeed in 
Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. Putin has had clear geo-political 
objectives for the past 30 years--to reassert a Russian sphere 
of influence in the former Soviet space and reestablish itself 
as a world power. Russia's success in Ukraine could embolden 
Putin to exert increased pressure on Russia's periphery and 
over its claimed sphere of influence, including our NATO Allies 
and partners in the Baltic and Black Seas. If left unchecked, 
Putin's long process of annexation could continue to create a 
series of frozen conflicts--to include vulnerable NATO Allies--
that would continue to undermine Euro-Atlantic and global 
security. This includes interference in democratic processes, 
political and economic coercion, widespread disinformation 
campaigns, malicious cyber activities, use of paramilitary and 
private military contractors to exert hard military power 
across the periphery and abroad, and continued illegal and 
disruptive activities of Russian intelligence services. 
Domestically in Russia, a victory in Ukraine will justify and 
normalize the militarization of Russian society that will 
outlive Putin, ensuring Russia retains sufficient military will 
and capability to pose a near, mid-, and long-term threat to 
the Alliance.

             SMALL MODULAR REACTORS IN CONTESTED LOGISTICS

    39. Senator Manchin. General Van Ovost, are you familiar 
with this program and the benefits it offers to our fuel 
logistics and resiliency in the Pacific?
    General Van Ovost. We are aware of the Small Modular 
Reactor program and continue to monitor progression through the 
Joint Capabilities Integration and Development System (JCIDS) 
process, specifically the work of the Logistics Functional 
Capability Board (LOG FCB) led by the Joint Staff J4. While the 
capability has great implications for how the Joint Force may 
operate in the future, its implications on bulk fuel 
requirements, which remains the near-term primary fuel source 
for combat power, are not as well understood. My new Global 
Bulk Fuel Management and Delivery team will remain linked with 
the LOG FCB as Project Pele matures to ensure we are ready to 
leverage this capability if/when it becomes viable.

    40. Senator Manchin. General Van Ovost, if not, could I get 
your commitment to receive a briefing from the Program Manager 
that oversees Pele [Pay-Lay]? We'll ensure your staff are 
directly connected with him.
    General Van Ovost. As mentioned previously, we are aware of 
Project Pele and continue to monitor its development primarily 
through the efforts of the Joint Staff J4-led LOG FCB. No 
briefing is required at this time, however we will not hesitate 
to request additional information if/when it becomes a mature 
capability.

                       ENERGY SECURITY IN EUROPE

    41. Senator Manchin. General Cavoli, do you share my 
concerns with our Balkan allies, and how can European Command 
get out ahead of them?
    General Cavoli. I share your concerns. Many of our Balkan 
Allies are dependent on Russian sourced fossil fuels. Energy 
security should be viewed in the larger context of moving our 
partners and Allies away from Russian and Chinese influence and 
toward EU and Atlantic integration. We have recently seen some 
encouraging signs of our Balkan Allies moving away from energy 
dependence on Russia. For example, Croatia has developed a 
liquefied natural gas terminal in Krk. This terminal has the 
potential to supply Croatia's natural gas requirements and 
serve the southeast Europe region. USEUCOM will continue to 
encourage our Allies in the region to diversify their energy 
sources.

               DELAYED BUDGETS AND CONTINUING RESOLUTIONS

    42. Senator Manchin. General Cavoli and General Van Ovost, 
can I have each of your commitments to get Congress as accurate 
an estimate as possible on the financial impact previous and 
future Continuing Resolutions have on the Department of 
Defense?
    General Cavoli. Yes, you have my commitment.
    General Van Ovost. USTRANSCOM has three primary funding 
sources, the Transportation Working Capital Fund (TWCF), 
Operation and Maintenance (O&M), and Research, Development, 
Test, and Evaluation (RDT&E).
    TWCF--Continuing Resolutions (CRs) have minimal direct 
impact on TWCF funded operations if cash is maintained within 
established thresholds. The longer the CR, the greater 
potential for cash to diminish when customers are unable to pay 
bills.
    O&M--The Joint Enabling Capabilities Command (JECC) and 
USTRANSCOM O&M programs will have sufficient funding to operate 
in the event of a CR.
    RDT&E--CRs have significantly impacted RDT&E programs. 
Although existing projects receive sufficient funding to 
continue during a CR, new starts, which are approximately 25 
percent of the annual innovation program, would be delayed. The 
late receipt of funding hinders our ability to meet obligation 
and expense goals. The perceived under execution translates to 
an out-year top line reduction. Since 2020, USTRANSCOM has been 
taxed $15+M for under execution directly related to CRs. This 
jeopardizes our ability to collaboratively pursue contested 
logistics technology innovation with the Services, Combatant 
Commands, OSD, Joint Staff, DLA, other government agencies, 
industry, and academia.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly

                       LONG TERM UKRAINE STRATEGY

    43. Senator Kelly. General Cavoli, I understand that some 
of the equipment we would like to provide Ukraine right now 
comes with a lot of training and a big sustainment tail. But I 
also think we need to be looking at the long game, in addition 
to providing Ukraine what they need to win the war as soon as 
possible. Long-term planning doesn't happen all at once. It 
needs to start now. What type of equipment do we need to be 
looking at long-term for Ukraine as the battlefield dynamics 
change? Does it differ from the more immediate needs?
    General Cavoli. We remain committed to both supporting 
Ukraine's urgent needs and increasing their combat capabilities 
over the long-term. Specifically, USEUCOM supports DOD efforts 
to transition Ukraine toward a western-style military with 
advanced and NATO-interoperable equipment. I am thankful for 
the supplemental funding already provided by Congress to enable 
our progress toward this goal. Ukraine will need a combination 
of legacy and Western-provided equipment in the short to 
midterm. However, the types of equipment Ukraine requires now 
for ongoing combat operations are often the same type of 
equipment that will make the Ukrainian Armed Forces successful 
in the future. Of particular importance, air defense systems 
and interceptors will continue to be a high priority to protect 
civilian populations and infrastructure, while contributing to 
the security required to encourage economic recovery after the 
cessation of hostilities.

    44. Senator Kelly. General Cavoli, what type of force do we 
need to start planning for now from a long-term deterrence 
perspective?
    General Cavoli. Ukraine's long term force requirements will 
depend in large measure on the outcome of the current 
counteroffensive, intended to expel Russian forces and restore 
Ukraine's territorial integrity. Assuming these efforts are 
successful, Ukraine will require an advanced, multi-domain 
force of sufficient size and capability to deter and, if 
necessary, respond decisively to future Russian aggression.

                        EXERCISE LESSONS LEARNED

    45. Senator Kelly. General Cavoli and General Van Ovost, 
the Joint Force is doing a great job with large-scale exercises 
worldwide. I'm eager to hear the readout from DEFENDER 23 in 
United States European Command as it concludes. United States 
Indo-Pacific Command has a number of joint and multi-national 
exercises throughout the year. It's a great time to deepen our 
partnerships, practice the way we will fight, and prepare for 
an exceedingly complex wartime environment. We've seen through 
the Russia-Ukraine conflict the importance of logistics in war. 
Additionally, with advanced long-range weapons, the risk of 
cyber-attacks, and a complex electronic warfare environment, 
it's more important than ever to closely evaluate and practice 
contested logistics. What are these exercises highlighting 
about any logistics or supply chain challenges we have?
    General Cavoli. The DEFENDER 23 series highlighted the need 
for USEUCOM to continue its close coordination with our Allies 
and partners to expand the throughput capacity of ports, roads, 
railways, and airfields in the European theater. We will also 
work together to further develop the assembly areas needed to 
conduct large-scale reception, staging, onward-movement, and 
integration operations. Finally, the DEFENDER 23 series 
experimented with the use of non-standard ports in an effort to 
diversify and provide options to succeed in a contested 
logistics environment. Our integration with Allies and partners 
during these exercises have enabled us to leverage their 
expertise to mitigate many of these challenges in their 
respective operating areas.
    General Van Ovost. The challenges we confront from today's 
complex wartime environment include the fact logistics support 
to global operations may be at risk from the Homeland to the 
destination. Exercises, conducted with the other Combatant 
Commands, other U.S. Government departments and agencies, along 
with our commercial partners and allied nations when 
appropriate, enable us to gain a deeper understanding of these 
challenges so we are better prepared to face them. The 
exercises also highlight that we must continue to recapitalize 
organic mobility capabilities and modernize the Joint 
Deployment and Distribution Enterprise (JDDE) in order for the 
DOD to maintain asymmetric advantages and deliver on our 
national security requirements.

    46. Senator Kelly. General Cavoli and General Van Ovost, 
what are these exercises telling us about how well we operating 
jointly, and what areas do you think we're doing the best, and 
what can we improve on?
    General Cavoli. Although we could always use more inter-
theater strategic lift, USEUCOM planners do a tremendous job of 
coordinating closely with subject matter experts from 
USTRANSCOM to move approximately 3,000 and 5,000 troops into 
and out of theater every year in support of the Defender series 
of exercises. One area for future improvement is in Joint Force 
planning for port and airfield openings in a contested European 
theater. Once those details are included in future exercise 
plans, we will need to exercise these activities across the 
Joint Force and with allies and partners. At the tactical 
level, we will continue to improve our integration of naval 
surface fires into our ground force schemes of maneuver during 
the Defender series.
    General Van Ovost. Exercises validate that today's Joint 
Force is integrated and effective, however they also show us 
how to further improve globally integrated operations. We can 
no longer presume the JDDE will have complete freedom of 
maneuver with full access to our lines of communication on the 
ground, in the air, at sea, and in space. The Joint Staff is 
enabling Combatant Command understanding of the global war 
fight challenges through the Globally Integrated Exercise (GIE) 
series, Globally Integrated Wargame (GIWG) series, and the 
Advancing Globally Integrated Logistics Effort (AGILE) series. 
The Joint Staff has recently proposed a single exercise event, 
supported by multiple Combatant Commands, to explore global 
integration within a realistic and relevant global logistics 
problem set. Recognizing the logistics operating environment 
extends beyond purely DOD lanes, we are expanding our approach 
to include a holistic perspective. This enables the Joint 
Force, industry, interagency, and our allies & partners to 
collaboratively work toward advancing solutions to identified 
gaps. We have found, through exercises and wargames, that 
improving awareness of authorities and processes have enhanced 
our joint ability to understand available options. We have also 
identified areas where we lack capability or authority. The DOD 
has prioritized Contested Logistics as an analytic focus area.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton

                          EXTENDED DETERRENCE

    47. Senator Cotton. General Cavoli, please provide more 
details on enhanced deterrence requirements. This is a followup 
to discussion in the closed session. Please refer to that 
session for details of the exact question.
    General Cavoli. [Deleted.]

                          CONTESTED LOGISTICS

    48. Senator Cotton. General Van Ovost, you've spoken about 
the need to ensure the U.S. command and control apparatus will 
be sufficiently robust and resilient to coordinate logistical 
operations across the globe in event of a conflict. General 
Minihan of Air Mobility Command lists ``command and control'' 
as one of the four main capability gaps he is most concerned 
with filling. Please provide an update on U.S. Transportation 
Command efforts to modernize the command and control of our 
logistics fleet.
    General Van Ovost. USTRANSCOM efforts to ensure command and 
control of the Logistics enterprise have been focused on 
increasing the real time visibility of forces, status of 
capabilities and assets, improving redundancy in communication 
avenues, monitoring and securing systems, and increasing 
awareness of impacts to USTRANSCOM entities. We have 
accomplished this through the establishment of a robust 
Knowledge Management team integrated across multiple 
directorates within USTRANSCOM that have integrated over 100 
capabilities into a Common Operating Picture. The most visible 
aspects of this effort have combined different information 
feeds across the civilian and military enterprises to provide a 
holistic situational awareness tool, delivering accurate, and 
relevant information to entities across the Joint Deployment 
and Distribution Enterprise. Additionally, annual exercises 
such as TURBO CHALLENGE and ULTIMATE GUARDIAN challenge 
USTRANSCOM's ability to project and sustain the joint force in 
a degraded operating environment. These exercises further 
inform our ability to test, develop, and codify resilient 
business practices across the global logistics enterprise as 
well as enhance our ability to sense and provide decision 
advantage for our global mobility posture and capacity. 
Finally, to thwart adversary attempts to gain information 
advantage, USTRANSCOM continues to develop, test, and acquire 
technologies that ensure secure and resilient command and 
control capabilities.

    49. Senator Cotton. General Van Ovost, the Services are 
focusing extensively on the concept of contested logistics in 
the Pacific, whether Army's new cross functional team for 
contested logistics or the Air Force's agile combat employment 
(ACE) concept. These actions recognize the massive challenge 
posed to our logistics forces by China. What most concerns you 
have China's growing military power in regards to your ability 
to fulfill United States Transportation Command's mission?
    General Van Ovost. USTRANSCOM relies on robust access, 
basing, and overflight (ABO) to deploy and sustain United 
States Forces in time of conflict. The PRC may use their 
growing influence and military power to pressure allies and 
partners to decline or limit ABO to United States Forces, as 
well as to threaten or deny freedom of movement through 
logistics chokepoints. This challenge is compounded by 
vulnerable cyber and information domains in our many networks, 
global Command and Control constructs, and global integration 
that also require Allies and Partners to fulfill our mission. 
China's growing military power, to include highly networked 
anti-access capabilities, could potentially allow them to 
interdict our lines of communication that link our global 
supply chains, reducing the US' relative advantage in global 
speed and reach. Furthermore, improvements in PRC military 
capabilities, such as their missile forces, also allows them to 
hold United States Forces at risk in the Western Pacific. This 
may reduce strategic and operational options in crisis or 
conflict. The PRC is likely to continue refining and improving 
this capability.
    To maintain our ability to project power at a time and 
place of our choosing, including in contested environments, we 
must continue to build a robust, resilient, and highly 
effective global logistics command and control structure, with 
integrated prioritization and governance processes to maximize 
decision advantage. Furthermore, our new Unified Command Plan 
mission set as the Single Manager for Global Bulk Fuel 
Management and Delivery is critical to meeting Combatant 
Command requirements and assure efficient distribution for the 
entire enterprise. To execute this responsibility amidst 
China's growing military power, USTRANSCOM will continue to 
closely coordinate with the Combatant Commands, the Services, 
and Defense Logistics Agency to ensure we are appropriately 
postured to assure bulk fuel distribution to the point-of-need 
through escalation from competition to armed conflict.

    50. Senator Cotton. General Van Ovost, how is 
Transportation Command working with each of the Services to 
ensure these concepts are mutually supportive?
    General Van Ovost. As USTRANSCOM conducts planning and 
analysis in support of the CCMDs, we work collaboratively with 
the Services and CCMDs to understand and incorporate their 
capabilities and concepts into sustainment plans. USTRANSCOM 
communicates capability requirements to each of the Services 
and the Joint Force through the Joint Capabilities Integration 
and Development System, which includes various Functional 
Capability Boards. We contribute to assessing, prioritizing, 
and making recommendations on capability requirements and 
associated investments to address Concept Required Capabilities 
needed to execute the Department's Joint Warfighting Concept. 
We provide an annual Integrated Priority List to communicate 
USTRANSCOM's top capability and budgetary gaps to the Joint 
Force and employ the program budget review process to 
collaborate with Services on portfolio issues not addressed in 
their POMs.

    51. Senator Cotton. General Van Ovost, what more can be 
done to accelerate our ability to supply our troops in 
contested or denied environments?
    General Van Ovost. We must remain focused on this Nation's 
unique capability to project power. That is primarily 
accomplished by USTRANSCOM. We must focus on improving the 
readiness of mobility forces and recapitalizing mobility assets 
while continuing to invest in our strategic Airlift, Aerial 
Refueling, and Sealift fleets, as well as our smaller intra-
theater assets and enablers.
    Increased bi-lateral government to government agreements 
with allies and partners will greatly enhance our Nation's 
ability to rapidly deploy and sustain the force and all classes 
of supply in a contested logistics environment. This effort 
requires a U.S. whole-of-government approach, utilizing 
diplomatic channels as well as military-to-military engagements 
to build resilient relationships. Where possible, we must 
reduce the requirement for movement of equipment and 
sustainment supplies. This can include prepositioning of 
equipment and supplies where militarily useful and 
diplomatically possible, pursuing common platforms and systems 
with allies and partners, and logistics sharing agreements.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mike Rounds

                                SPECTRUM

    There is an effort by some in Congress to require sharing 
of all or some of the 3.1-3.45 GHz band of the electromagnetic 
spectrum between the Department of Defense and commercial 
interests in the private sector.

    52. Senator Rounds. General Cavoli and General Van Ovost, 
as I understand it, the 3.1-3.45 GHz band is primarily used by 
Department of Defense ground-, air-and sea-based radars and 
sensors to detect airborne and missile threats. For example, 
the Navy's Aegis Combat System's AN/SPY radar uses that band 
and is one of the few systems able to track the new threat 
posed by low flying, highly maneuverable hypersonic missiles. 
Can you confirm that U.S. Forces assigned to you in EUCOM and 
TRANSCOM rely upon systems critical to our national security 
that reside on this portion of the spectrum? If so, can you 
share examples of either specific systems that currently 
operate there or some of the missions and capabilities which 
rely on this portion of the spectrum?
    General Cavoli. We confirm U.S. forces assigned to USEUCOM 
utilize critical national security systems residing in the 3.1-
3.45 GHz spectrum. Specifically, the following systems occupy 
the spectrum in question:

     LAegis Combat System's AN/SPY radar systems are 
deployed to Poland and Romania as part of AEGIS Ashore. 
Additionally, Navy ships entering the North Sea, Mediterranean 
Sea, and the Black Sea will also have active AEGIS systems.

     LThe APY-1/APY-2 is the primary radar system of 
the E-3A airborne warning and control system and is routinely 
deployed to theater for training. U.S. provided airborne 
warning and control systems are also assigned to NATO for 
active missions.

     LAN/TPQ-53 Quick Reaction Capability Radar are 
actively deployed to Latvia, Romania, Germany, Poland, 
Slovakia, and Hungary.

     LAN/RPS-42 Tactical Air Surveillance Radar Systems 
are currently deployed to Italy and Germany.

     LAN/TPS-80 Ground/Air Task Oriented Radar (G/
ATOR): Although we do not currently have any assigned to 
USEUCOM, the United States Marines frequently deploy to our 
theater with these systems.

    General Van Ovost. Yes, USTRANSCOM forces rely on systems 
that reside in this portion of the spectrum. For example, Air 
Mobility Command's C-130 aircraft use an avionics formation 
positioning system, known as Stationkeeping Equipment, to train 
for flying in close contact between aircraft. Another example 
is the Surface Deployment and Distribution Command's use of the 
RPS-42 air surveillance radar system at the Military Ocean 
Terminals.

    53. Senator Rounds. General Cavoli and General Van Ovost, 
providing this Committee with your best military advice, can 
you characterize the risk to mission and the risk to the force 
if action were taken to enable the auction of portions of this 
band prior to the analysis of the results of the statutorily 
required DOD-NTIA study, which is required to be completed by 
September 2023?
    General Cavoli. USEUCOM has identified significant 
operational and readiness impacts if the Spectrum Innovation 
Act is passed. At the unclassified level, these systems cover 
short and medium range surveillance and counter air, rocket, 
mortar, missile, and ground missions. Vacating these spectrums 
will necessitate further research, development, integration, 
and fielding of weapons systems capable of operating within a 
different frequency band.
    General Van Ovost. It is important to preserve DOD 
operational equities in this portion of the spectrum to enable 
the Department to protect the Homeland and train for all types 
of overseas contingencies. These operational equities involve 
hundreds of air, sea, and land-based radars that DOD uses for a 
wide range of missions.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst

                           THE WAR IN UKRAINE

    54. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, how do you assess the 
prospect of success of a Ukraine offensive to retake Crimea 
this spring or summer?
    General Cavoli. As long as Russian soldiers continue to 
occupy Crimea, retaking the region will prove a challenge.

    55. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, Russia has declared that 
it would use nuclear weapons in existential circumstances. Do 
you believe Ukraine's recapture of Crimea would increase the 
risk of nuclear escalation?
    General Cavoli. Yes. Russia has considered Crimea legally 
part of the Russian Federation since its annexation in 2014, 
and extends the same theoretical nuclear weapons protection to 
Crimea as to Russia proper. Russia's June 2020Nuclear 
tDeterrent Policy reaffirmed its willingness to use nuclear 
weapons to respond to nuclear or conventional attacks 
threatening ``the very existence of the State,'' and was 
referenced in a March 2023 interview by Russian Security 
Council Deputy Chairman Medvedev in connection with a potential 
Ukrainian effort to retake Crimea. Furthermore, at the St. 
Petersburg Internal Economic Forum in June 2023, President 
Putin also reiterated threats to the existence of the Russia 
Federation are grounds for the use of nuclear weapons.

    56. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, would North Atlantic 
Treaty Organization's military requirements in the United 
States European Command increase if there is a political 
decision to extend a security commitment to Ukraine and would 
European allies be capable of meeting those requirements?
    General Cavoli. Yes, a political decision to extend a 
security commitment to Ukraine would increase NATO's military 
requirements. In the near term, many of our Allies have donated 
a large relative portion of their military capacity to support 
Ukraine. Replenishment of this equipment and munitions will 
require a strong and robust defense industrial base with 
resilient supply chains. In the mid-to long-term, a security 
commitment to Ukraine would expand NATO's military requirements 
as defined within a newly approved family of plans. At the 2023 
Vilnius Summit, Allies approved the implementation of NATO's 
new concept for the deterrence and defense of the Euro-Atlantic 
area based upon new regional plans that address the Alliance's 
core task of collective defense. This family of plans will 
provide a framework for future requirements that our NATO 
Allies have committed to meet as we work together to improve 
readiness, capacity, and interoperability.

    57. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, Admiral Aquilino told 
this Committee that United States support to Ukraine has not 
undermined military readiness in the Indo-Pacific. Have 
munitions provided to Ukraine decreased United States military 
requirements to execute operational plans in the United States 
European Command? Please provide an unclassified answer to the 
extent possible; please provide an additional classified answer 
if necessary.
    General Cavoli. No. Munitions provided to Ukraine have not 
decreased United States military requirements to execute 
operational plans in USEUCOM.
    U.S., Ally, and partner support to Ukraine has helped to 
reinvigorate collective defense and to refine the development 
of a new family of NATO defense plans. While Ally and partner 
defense investments may reduce future U.S. munitions and force 
requirements in theater, USEUCOM requirements remain unchanged 
during this perilous time.

    58. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, have we used the 
battlefield in Ukraine to reveal new capabilities that could 
deter adversaries like China? Please provide an unclassified 
answer to the extent possible; please provide an additional 
classified answer if necessary.
    General Cavoli. No.

                     RUSSIAN EFFORTS IN THE BALKANS

    59. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, what is the risk of 
ongoing Russian efforts to foment unrest in the Balkans, 
especially in Kosovo?
    General Cavoli. Any effort by Russia to foment unrest in 
the Balkans is concerning, particularly given the volatility of 
the situation in Northern Kosovo and Bosnia and Herzegovina. 
Russia has continued to support Republika Srpska President 
Dodik and promote his unhelpful rhetoric in Bosnia and 
Herzegovina. The EU Force (EUFOR) mission in Bosnia and 
Herzegovina is essential to maintaining peace and security 
within the country. Russia's seat on the UNSC provides them an 
opportunity to block EUFOR's annual renewal, placing Bosnia and 
Herzegovina at greater risk for instability and associated 
potential violence. This instability could threaten regional 
stability. USEUCOM will continue to closely monitor the 
situation.

           NORTH ATLANTIC TREATY ORGANIZATION JOINT LOGISTICS

    60. Senator Ernst. General Cavoli, where are the gaps to 
allied contributions to North Atlantic Treaty Organization's 
joint logistics concept?
    General Cavoli. NATO's joint logistics concept will drive 
needed investments by the U.S. and our Allies in force 
mobility, sustainment, and mission assurance within contested 
environments. We need to ensure our forces are postured and 
able to deploy at the speed and scale required to deter and if 
necessary defend against aggression. Once in place, Allied 
forces must have the collective capability, backed by munitions 
and fuel stockpiles, to sustain high-end combat operations 
until we achieve our strategic objectives. Finally, Allies must 
be prepared, individually and as an Alliance, to execute these 
critical functions while under kinetic and non-kinetic attack.
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              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan

          WHAT IS THE UNITED STATES LEARNING FROM UKRAINE WAR?

    61. Senator Sullivan. General Cavoli, in remarks at a 
Swedish defense conference in January of this year, you pointed 
to the scale of combat in Ukraine as ``out of proportion with 
all of our recent thinking.'' You noted the importance of the 
defense industrial base to producing equipment at scale. You 
also referenced Ukraine's battlefield success, saying 
``precision can beat mass,'' but it takes time for quality to 
beat quantity. Can you expand on those remarks and discuss what 
else have you learned from the war in Ukraine?
    General Cavoli. As we have witnessed in Ukraine, it takes 
time for precision weapons to blunt and destroy mass at scale 
in major combat operations. This presents a unique challenge to 
many of our Eastern Flank NATO Allies, who would be unable to 
cede large swaths of territorial control for the time necessary 
for precision to defeat massed Russian aggressors. United 
States and European defense industrial bases will need to 
strike a balance between the production of exquisite weapons 
systems and the sheer volume that allows quantity to have a 
quality of its own.

    62. Senator Sullivan. General Cavoli, how are we using what 
we have learned in Ukraine to refine requirements and modernize 
doctrine?
    General Cavoli. We are currently incorporating observations 
from the conflict into our assumption for Air Defense, weapons 
expenditures and sustainment, just to name a few. We are not 
only gathering those lessons from this conflict but we are 
disseminating those lessons to the appropriate agencies for 
action and dissemination, including the Joint Staff via the 
Joint Lessons Learned Information System. Consequently, Lessons 
learned that could potentially drive changes in joint 
requirements or joint doctrine are considered by the Joint 
Staff and Service components for action. Finally, as Ukraine 
conflict is still ongoing, it is still too early to see exactly 
how those lessons will drive changes to joint requirements or 
doctrine.

    Moving Ukrainian Equipment to a North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization Standardization (General Cavoli)

    63. Senator Sullivan. General Cavoli, in your opening 
statement you stated your support for the Department of 
Defense's efforts to transition Ukraine toward a western-style 
military with advanced and interoperable equipment. Since the 
beginning of the war, Ukraine has slowly incorporated more 
Western-origin and North Atlantic Treaty Organization-spec 
weapons to augment its supply of Soviet-era weapon systems. 
This has significantly increased Ukraine's lethality but it has 
also created a logistical and maintenance headache as Ukraine 
seeks to maintain and repair multiple types of artillery, 
Infantry Fighting Vehicles, and tanks. How is United States 
European Command working within the Department of Defense and 
its European partners in ensuring a long-term training and 
procurement plan to transition Ukraine from Soviet-spec to 
North Atlantic Treaty Organization-spec weapons?
    General Cavoli. Ukraine's transition to a NATO-
interoperable force has already begun, but the transition will 
require sustained materiel, training, advising and 
institutional capacity building support from the U.S. alongside 
our Allies and partners. In the short term, USEUCOM has 
prioritized sustainment to improve readiness to meet Ukraine's 
security assistance needs. This emphasis on sustainment extends 
the longevity of the NATO-interoperable equipment that will 
form the foundation of Ukraine's future force. Over the mid to 
long term, USEUCOM support a whole-of-government and whole of 
Alliance approach to ensuring Ukraine is able to operate and 
maintain a NATO-standard force capable of defending its 
territorial sovereignty.

          PREVENTING SUPPLY CHAIN WARFARE (GENERAL VAN OVOST)

    64. Senator Sullivan. General Van Ovost, the People's 
Republic of China (PRC) has the largest commercial shipping 
fleet in the world, builds approximately half of the world's 
largest commercial ships, and produces 96 percent of the 
world's dry shipping containers. As you mentioned in our 
meeting, there are only 85 United States flagged and United 
States crewed ships involved in international trade. China has 
over 4,500 People's Republic of China-flagged commercial 
vessels. During a potential conflict over the Taiwan Strait, 
the People's Republic of China can leverage its vast commercial 
shipping fleet and control of marine terminals and 
infrastructure to disrupt the United States supply chain. We 
discussed the Tanker Security Program as a way for the United 
States to not rely on People's Republic of China-flagged 
tankers to ensure a mobile supply of fuel within the First and 
Second Island Chain. Can you explain how the Tanker Security 
Program helps the Joint Force execute contested logistics and 
what steps we can take to reduce our vulnerability to 
intentional supply chain disruptions by working with allies and 
partners?
    General Van Ovost. As detailed in the Tanker Study 
delivered to Congress in June 2021, USTRANSCOM validated the 
need for the Tanker Security Program (TSP) to address the gap 
in meeting strategic, inter-theater bulk fuel distribution 
during wartime demands, while increasing the U.S. flag presence 
within the international trade market. The first set of 10 
medium-range U.S. flag tankers is expected to be fully crewed 
and operating in TSP by early next year. Furthermore, 
USTRANSCOM appreciates Congress's vision to expand TSP with the 
authorization of 20 tankers in the Fiscal Year 2023 NDAA. The 
second/additional set of ten tankers is expected to be composed 
of shallower draft/coastal tankers. This will allow greater 
theater port access in support of fuel distribution within the 
first and second island chains. Going forward, the expectation 
is for the additional tankers to reach initial operating 
capacity in fiscal year 2024. In parallel with the 
implementation of TSP, USTRANSCOM in partnership with the 
Maritime Administration renewed the Voluntary Tanker Agreement 
(VTA) in November 2022. Together we have developed VTA 
contingency contracts that will provide assured access to the 
U.S. flagged tanker fleet in support of Joint Force 
requirements. To continue mitigating contested logistics risk, 
USTRANSCOM is working within the DOD and the Department of 
State to build assured access agreements with critical Indo-
Pacific allies for access to host nation commercial tankers and 
terminals directly countering PRC regional assertiveness.

           REMOVING CAP ON SEALIFT RECCAP (GENERAL VAN OVOST)

    65. Senator Sullivan. General Van Ovost, in our 
conversation on Tuesday, you mentioned the need to lift the 
caps on acquiring used Roll-on/Roll off (RO-ROs) because of the 
timelines associated with the retirement of ships we currently 
have in the fleet. Over 70 percent of our Surge Sealift vessels 
are approaching the end of their service life in the next 10 
years. In fact as you stated in your testimony, the average age 
of the 44 Roll-On/Roll-Off ships we use to surge from the 
Continental U.S. is 44 years old, with 17 of them being 50 
years or older. There are cost and timeline advantages with 
acquiring these used, foreign-built ships given there is no 
market of domestically built ships available today. How do the 
current caps on acquiring used roll-on/roll-off vessels 
constrain United States Transportation Command and how can we 
use the expected retirement dates of ships in the surge fleet 
to stimulate demand for domestically built roll-on/roll-off 
ships?
    General Van Ovost. Procuring used Roll-on/Roll-off (RO/RO) 
vessels is the fastest and most cost-effective recapitalization 
approach to meet surge sealift requirements. USTRANSCOM's top 
priority is the swift recapitalization of the fleet with four 
(4) used vessels for a target capacity of 800,000 square foot 
annually. The current authorized limit of nine used vessels 
will be reached by fiscal year 2024 with the planned purchase 
of the next four vessels, essentially ending the buy-used 
program. The flexibility to purchase used vessels without a cap 
on quantity allows us to act when market conditions are 
favorable and provides greater opportunities to acquire 
multiple vessels of the same class. This would potentially 
offer us lower purchase prices, lower lifecycle costs, and 
improve overall readiness for the RRF. MARAD anticipates 
continued volatility in the market for future purchases so 
flexibility without limitations will be critical.
    Domestic new sealift vessel construction, if funded, could 
complement the current used vessel acquisition program to 
recapitalize the capacity and readiness of the RRF. The process 
of designing and constructing a new ship would likely take up 
to 5 years and potentially cost up to four times the amount 
compared to a used ship purchase. Nevertheless, I do recognize 
the importance of a robust and healthy domestic vessel 
construction and repair capability supported by the U.S. 
maritime commercial sector, and it remains paramount to assure 
the availability of the skilled professionals and modern 
facilities needed in time of war or national emergency. 
Finally, the Navy supports construction of new auxiliary 
vessels to recapitalize the Maritime Prepositioning Force (MPF) 
to align with planned retirements beginning in 2030.


  DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION REQUEST FOR APPROPRIATIONS FOR 
         FISCAL YEAR 2024 AND THE FUTURE YEARS DEFENSE PROGRAM

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                          TUESDAY, MAY 2, 2023

                      United States Senate,
                       Committee on Armed Services,
                                            Washington, DC.

                           AIR FORCE POSTURE

    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 9:28 a.m., in 
room G-50, Dirksen Senate Office Building, Senator Jack Reed 
(Chairman of the Committee) presiding.
    Committee Members present: Senators Reed, Shaheen, 
Gillibrand, Blumenthal, Hirono, King, Warren, Peters, 
Duckworth, Rosen, Kelly, Wicker, Fischer, Cotton, Rounds, 
Ernst, Sullivan, Cramer, Scott, Tuberville, Budd, and Schmitt.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR JACK REED

    Chairman Reed. Good morning. The Committee meets today to 
receive testimony on the President's Budget Request for the 
Department of the Air Force for fiscal year 2024. I would like 
to welcome Secretary of the Air Force, Frank Kendall, Chief of 
Staff for the Air Force, General Charles Brown, and Chief of 
Space Operations, General Chance Saltzman.
    Thank you, gentlemen, for your leadership, and please share 
the Committee's gratitude with the men and women under your 
command for their service and to their families for their 
continued support. The Air Force and Space Force play a 
fundamental role in our strategic competition with China and 
other adversaries. The United States air and space power 
remains the finest in the world, and the entire joint force 
relies on these capabilities each day.
    This is a challenging mission, as the Air Force must strike 
a balance between supporting its continuous global operations, 
while providing adequate resources to modernize its aircraft 
and maintain our technological edge.
    To that end, President Biden's Defense Budget Request for 
Fiscal Year 2024 includes approximately $260 billion in funding 
for the Air Force, an increase of $12.4 billion over the 2023 
enacted budget. This budget request includes considerable 
investments in platforms such as advanced battle management 
systems, Air Force joint all domain command and control, next 
generation air dominance, the B-21, hypersonics, and air and 
ground moving target indication.
    These are important initiatives that will contribute 
significantly to modernizing the service. Indeed, the Air 
Force's success in the coming decades will be its ability to 
manage and control data. The initiatives outlined in this 
budget would enable the Air Force to detect, analyze, and act 
on information across the battlespace quickly using automation, 
artificial intelligence, and predictive analytics.
    In turn, these systems will help our forces acquire targets 
as early as possible and rapidly deliver information to the 
best shooter on air, land, or sea. The Committee would 
appreciate an update on these and other programs that are 
receiving increased emphasis and resourcing.
    The budget request also proposes to retire or realign 
various elements of the Air Force with a net reduction of 
roughly 214 aircraft in fiscal year 2024. This would include 
reducing or altering the force structure for F-22s, A-10's, F-
16s, F-15s, C-130's, KC-135s, KC-10's, JSTARS [Joint 
Surveillance Target Attack Radar System] aircraft, AWACS 
[Airborne Warning and Control System] aircraft, HH-60 
helicopters, and training aircraft. Any proposal of this sort 
deserves careful consideration.
    Discussions must be had about whether any of these weapons 
system retirements are necessary or appropriate in the near 
term. We also need to evaluate our domestic industrial base to 
avoid making decisions that undercut our production and 
manufacturing capabilities. I would ask the witnesses to 
provide us with reasoning for the proposed retirements and 
assure us that any decisions are well thought out before any 
changes to the force structure begin.
    General Saltzman, Congress established the Space Force in 
order to consolidate the numerous space activities in the 
Department of Defense. Given that the Space Force is only 3 
years old, I understand it is still becoming institutionalized 
within the Department and there are many challenges in that 
process.
    General, I would like to know how you are growing the 
service in terms of personnel and structures like the Space 
Development Agency, and how you are working to foster a service 
culture that can succeed in the dramatically evolving space 
environment.
    Finally, now that the Space Force is up and running, it is 
important to present a trained force with substantive 
capabilities to the combatant commanders. One of the 
capabilities for the combatant commands now under discussion is 
tactical space intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, 
or ISR.
    As our satellite constellations and sensors continue to 
improve, space based on ISR technologies will be able to 
provide global continuous information to units operating in 
every domain. Space is a rapidly evolving domain for the 
Defense Department. I want to ask the witnesses to discuss what 
resources are necessary to ensure its success.
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Saltzman, 
thank you again for appearing today. I look forward to your 
testimony. As a reminder for my colleagues, there will be a 
closed session immediately following this hearing in room SVC-
217. Let me now turn to the Ranking Member, Senator Wicker.

              STATEMENT OF SENATOR ROGER F. WICKER

    Senator Wicker. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I join you in 
welcoming our distinguished witnesses, and I want to thank them 
for their years of service. This past year has highlighted 
several growing challenges confronting both the Air Force and 
the Space Force.
    For example, Vladimir Putin's brutal and unprovoked war in 
Ukraine has demonstrated the significance of air and missile 
defense in denying the effective use of air power. Russia 
maintains a high level of capability in space, but communist 
China is much further ahead in comparison.
    Meanwhile, the State of competition to use or deny the use 
of space capabilities is rapidly evolving, and Beijing rapidly 
continues to develop and field capabilities that could test our 
own assets in the air and in space. Although we face 
challenges, there are good signs of progress in this year's 
budget request. For example, I am encouraged to see that the 
Department of Air Force continue to modernize.
    In particular, the Air Force is finally building out its 
fleet of fighter aircraft at a rate much closer to what we 
need. It does so while continuing to develop the next 
generation of advanced fighters and bombers.
    I hope our witnesses will provide an update regarding plans 
for the next generation of tanker aircraft, considering that 
the KC-46 delivery is still in progress. I am also glad to see 
adequate resourcing for programs such as the Sentinel B-21 and 
Long Range Standoff Missile. However, there are alarming 
reports that indicate the ICBM [intercontinental ballistic 
missile] replacement program could be delayed.
    We simply cannot afford to fall behind on nuclear 
modernization. So perhaps we will talk about that. I commend 
the Space Force for the effort it has put into building a 
hybrid architecture for missile warning, secure communications, 
and resilient navigation. I hope our witnesses will identify 
steps Congress can take to improve space capabilities more 
rapidly.
    I am concerned that the Air Force is still assuming risk in 
the near term, particularly--in the air domain, particularly 
during the years of concern to operational commanders and the 
national defense strategy. Mr. Secretary, there remains a large 
gap between warfighting needs and capability.
    Many of the platforms Congress has supported continue to be 
delayed, including the F-35 Block 4 upgrades, and T-7 trainer 
aircraft. This is particularly troubling since those delays 
indicate we may not have these assets to deploy them when we 
would need them the most. I am also bothered by--excuse me, I 
don't want to have a ring tone here. I am also bothered by 
potential failure to accelerate programs such as the E-7 
command and control aircraft, despite the clear congressional 
signal of support last year. Other challenges stand in the way 
of agile combat employment.
    To make that a reality, we need to make progress in the 
electromagnetic spectrum, in munitions production, and in 
building out the posture of basing and logistics. Further 
delays in these programs could have disastrous consequences.
    The Air Force and Space Force have essential roles to play 
in deterring conflict in the Western Pacific. As I have said in 
other posture hearings, complacency is not an option. 
Complacency undermines deterrence. We need to proceed with 
urgency to get our forces the capabilities they need.
    Thank you for our witnesses, and I look forward to an 
important discussion. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Wicker, and now 
let me recognize the Secretary of the Air Force, Secretary 
Kendall.

STATEMENT OF THE HONORABLE FRANK KENDALL III, SECRETARY OF THE 
                           AIR FORCE

    Secretary Kendall. Mr. Chairman. Chairman Reed and Ranking 
Member Wicker, Members of the Committee, thank you for the 
opportunity to testify today on the Department of the Air 
Force's fiscal year 2024 budget submission.
    Approximately 1 year ago, I began my testimony before this 
Committee with a quote from General Douglas MacArthur, 
reminding us that the history of failure in war can almost 
always be summed up in two words, too late.
    That warning is even more valid today. Over the past year, 
under the rubric of 7 Department of the Air Force operational 
imperatives, the Department of the Air Force has worked to 
define the capabilities and technologies we need, along with 
the programs and resources required, to deter, and if 
necessary, prevail over our pacing challenge, China, China, 
China.
    In fiscal year 2024, we are requesting approximately $5 
billion as a direct result of this work, and over $25 billion 
for operational imperative related investments. War is not 
inevitable, but successfully deterring conflict is heavily 
dependent on our military capabilities.
    In our fiscal year 2024 budget request, there are 
approximately 20 completely new or significantly reskilled 
program elements, some of which are classified, that we must 
develop, produce, and field if we desire to maintain the air 
and space superiority that America and our allies have counted 
on for decades.
    In order to proceed with any of these programs, the 
Department of the Air Force needs timely authorizations and 
appropriations. The Department of the Air Force is ready to 
move forward with the next generation of capabilities we need, 
and there is no time to lose.
    In addition to these new start or enhanced efforts, the 
fiscal year 2024 budget includes a request for additional 
resources to increase production and accelerate development of 
programs essential to the Department of the Air Force's 
missions, as defined in the National Defense Strategy (NDS).
    For the Strategic Triad, we have fully funded the Sentinel 
ICBM, the B-21 radar bomber, the long range standoff weapon, 
and our nuclear command and control programs. For the 
conventional force, we are increasing production of both the F-
35 and the F-15EX. The next generation air dominance program is 
funded to move forward, and as indicated last year, an uncrewed 
collaborative combat aircraft program of record is fully funded 
in fiscal year 2024 request.
    We are also continuing the acquisition of essential 
programs like the E-7 Wedgetail and the new resilient missile 
warning and tracking space system. As we indicated last year, 
hard choices have been required to move the Department into the 
future. We deeply appreciate the support of Congress for the 
divestitures we requested last year. This year, we must 
continue the divestment of our over 40 year old A-10 Warthog.
    This program has served us well, but it is becoming 
increasingly obsolete and absorbing resources needed for higher 
priorities. We ask for Congress continued support for this and 
other identified changes we must make to field the forces we 
need to be successful against our pacing and other challenges.
    But of course, it isn't all about the equipment we need to 
perform our missions. It is also about the men and women who 
serve in the total force, Active, Guard, Reserve, and those who 
support them. We appreciate Congress's support for a 4.6 
percent pay raise last year. This year we are asking for a 5.2 
percent pay increase, the largest 1 year increase we have ever 
requested.
    In line with Secretary Austin's taking care of people 
initiative, we are continuing to invest in child development 
centers and housing to meet the highest priority needs of our 
airmen, guardians, and their families. Like the other services, 
with the exception of the Space Force, the Air Force faces 
challenges in recruiting in a generation where the propensity 
to serve is the lowest that we have seen in decades.
    We are removing barriers to service to ensure that anyone 
with the capability and desire can serve to their full 
potential. Under the National Defense Strategy, we are also 
strengthening teams, both in the joint force and with our 
allies and partners. Building these relationships and investing 
in our ability to work together is the essence of integrated 
deterrence.
    The effectiveness and importance of these relationships are 
on display in Europe today, where NATO [North Atlantic Treaty 
Organization] is stronger than ever. I recently returned from 
the Pacific, where I met with a number of our teammates who 
participated in the groundbreaking event for the Enhanced 
Defense Cooperation Agreement Air Bases in the Philippines.
    Our budget request also supports strengthening our 
partnerships around the world, especially when we confront our 
pacing challenge and most acute threats. I started by talking 
about the value of time, and I will finish by highlighting a 
legislative proposal that can save up to 2 years of that 
valuable time.
    Our proposal would expand rapid acquisition authority so 
that Military Departments can more quickly respond to emerging 
threats and take advantage of evolving technology. Within 
reasonable constraints, this legislative proposal would allow 
progress on compelling National Security needs that would 
otherwise be delayed until the next submission and approval of 
the President's Budget.
    I have been pushing this reform for many years and we look 
forward to working with the Congress on this proposal. In 
closing, I believe the Department of the Air Force is well-
postured to move into the future. Our work to define that 
future is not complete but has produced compelling results that 
are reflected in our fiscal year 2024 budget submission.
    We look forward to your questions today. I would like to 
offer a more complete briefing on the classified details of our 
submission. Chairman, I appreciate the opportunity to do that 
after we finish this session. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary. General 
Brown, please.

STATEMENT OF GENERAL CHARLES Q. BROWN, JR. USAF CHIEF OF STAFF 
                        OF THE AIR FORCE

    General Brown. Good morning, Chairman Reed and Ranking 
Member Wicker, and distinguished Members of this Committee. I 
am proud to represent the 689,000 total force airmen serving 
our Nation. I want to thank you for your steadfast support for 
our airmen and their families. It is an honor to join Secretary 
Kendall and General Saltzman to testify on the fiscal year 2024 
budget submission.
    This budget builds on the progress made in fiscal year 2023 
and marks the next milestone toward the transformation of the 
Air Force to address the evolving security challenges outlined 
in the National Defense Strategy. As I emphasized last year, we 
must continue to accelerate change or risk losing our strategic 
advantage.
    The Department of Air Force's operational imperatives 
describe key capabilities that must be attained to enable the 
Air Force's modernization in the face of a rapidly changing 
threat environment.
    Remain dedicated to ensuring our investments and resources 
outlined in this budget submission are in line with the 
National Defense Strategy so the Air Force can continue to 
deter adversaries, prevail in conflict, and execute our mission 
to fight, fight, and win air power anytime, anywhere--not some 
time, in some places, but anytime, anywhere.
    This budget ensures the Air Force continues to provide the 
Nation the assurance of air superiority, the advantage of 
global strike, the agility of rapid global mobility, and you 
combine that with the adaptability of intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance, and authority in our command 
and control capabilities, providing the ability to sense, make 
sense, and act.
    This is what we must be do today and we must be prepared to 
do tomorrow. In order to provide these core functions to the 
Nation, we must accelerate development of programs essential to 
our mission with this budget submission.
    To provide the assurance of air superiority, we are 
increasing production of the F-35 and F15EX while the next 
generation air dominance program and family assistance 
continues development.
    To provide the advantage of global strike, we have fully 
funded ICBM and the B-21 bomber. To provide the agility of 
rapid mobility, we instituted recapitalization of KC-135 fleet, 
KC-46 ----
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    General Brown.--thank you for the opportunity to be here 
with you today. I look forward to your questions.
    The Chairman. Thank you, General Brown. General Saltzman, 
please.

 STATEMENT OF GENERAL B. CHANCE SALTZMAN, USSF CHIEF OF SPACE 
                           OPERATIONS

    General Saltzman. Chairman Reed, Ranking Member Wicker, 
distinguished Members of the Committee, thank you for your 
continued support and for the opportunity to testify on the 
fiscal year 2024 budget submission----
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    General Saltzman. Sorry. I will be as loud as I can----
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    Chairman Reed. We had a coup.
    General Saltzman. No, no----
    [Laughter.]
    General Saltzman. How is that?
    Chairman Reed. Much better.
    General Saltzman. That is why he is the Secretary of the 
Air Force.
    Chairman Reed. No, no, that is right.
    General Saltzman. As the fiscal year 2024 budget will allow 
us to further efforts to develop a resilient space order battle 
and prepare for rapid transition to a wartime posture against 
any potential adversary to fight and win a high intensity 
conflict.
    In conjunction with ongoing modernization projects, the 
Space Force has several new starts for fiscal year 2024 to 
support those efforts. Investing in these modernization 
projects will allow us to execute our assigned missions as we 
move forward to better posture for the emerging complexities of 
the space domain.
    Space is now undeniably a contested warfighting domain. 
China and Russia define space as such and are investing in 
technology meant to undermine United States advantage in the 
domain. China, our pacing challenge, is our most substantial 
threat into and from space. But Russia also remains an acute 
threat.
    Both present serious challenges with space capabilities 
that can track and target U.S. military forces on land, at sea, 
and in the air. Both can hold U.S. space assets at risk with 
cyber and electronic warfare, lasers, ground to space missiles, 
and space to space orbital engagement systems.
    These systems threaten the space architecture the Nation 
relies on for prosperity and security. To meet this challenge, 
the Space Force will prioritize three lines of effort. First, 
we will field ready, resilient, and combat credible forces. 
Second, we will amplify what I am calling the guardian spirit.
    Third, we will partner to win. These are directly in line 
with Secretary Austin's mission, people and team priorities. In 
sum, this budget request is designed to deliver the forces, 
personnel, and partnerships the Space Force requires to 
preserve U.S. advantages in space.
    To build resilient, ready, combat credible space forces, we 
are accelerating the pivot toward modern, more defendable 
satellite constellations and support infrastructure. We are 
conducting transformational force design analysis based on 
threats, operational needs, and costs so that we can maximize 
our budget while investing in effective missile warning, space 
domain awareness, communication and navigation systems.
    Additionally, we are investing to ensure our networks are 
hardened to defeat cyber threats, and that we have the 
operational test and training infrastructure necessary to 
prepare guardians for high intensity conflict.
    With our second line of effort, we are amplifying the 
guardian spirit by recruiting, developing, and retaining the 
best talent and empowering guardians to succeed. Investment in 
space centric curriculum for entry level schools will build 
guardians laser focused on space operations in both competition 
and conflict.
    Guardians will be empowered through mission command to 
innovate and execute in those scenarios. Notably, and with 
congressional support, we plan to integrate the space mission 
elements of the Air Force Reserve into the Space Force to offer 
guardians flexible career paths, including both full time and 
part time duty to retain talent and bring private sector 
experience to the force.
    The third line of effort acknowledges that the Space Force 
relies on partnerships to accomplish our mission. We are 
investing in training, education, data sharing, and integrated 
capabilities with our allies and partners. The Space Force will 
strengthen our presence in all combatant commands where 
guardians are already making solid connections with allies and 
partners.
    Because of its critical importance, the Space Force is 
collaborating with commercial space partners to build resilient 
capacity and leveraging emerging technologies. To enhance this 
partnership, the Space Force is working to eliminate barriers 
to such collaboration so that we can build enduring advantages 
and field these capabilities more rapidly.
    In conclusion, thank you for the opportunity to discuss the 
Space Force's Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Request. The Space Force 
continues to be the preeminent military space organization in 
the world.
    Our adversaries seek to challenge our advantage in space, 
but with the support of this Committee, our guardians will be 
able to out-work, out-innovate, and out-compete our potential 
adversaries to ensure that we maintain that advantage.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget request will make this 
possible, but only if the Congress passes timely 
appropriations. I look forward to your questions.
    [The joint prepared statement of The Honorable Frank 
Kendall, General Charles Q. Brown, Jr., and General B. Chance 
Saltzman follows:]

   Joint Prepared Statement by The Honorable Frank Kendall, General 
         Charles Q. Brown, Jr., and General B. Chance Saltzman
                                overview
    The Department of the Air Force (DAF) remains focused on 
implementing the National Defense Strategy (NDS) and the priorities of 
the Secretary of Defense: mission, people, and teams. Our ability to 
perform our missions comes first, and everything we are doing to 
support and develop our people and build strong teams supports that 
goal. One year ago, we submitted a posture statement in which the need 
to modernize the Air and Space Forces, especially to meet our pacing 
challenge--the People's Republic of China (PRC)--was highlighted. Over 
the past year, we have provided threat briefings to Congress on the 
severity of that challenge. A year ago, we also outlined seven 
operational imperatives the DAF must meet to be successful, but we were 
only beginning our work to analyze and define the solutions to those 
imperatives. We are pleased to report we have made significant progress 
in identifying the capabilities the DAF will need to prevail against 
the PRC and in defining new programs and resources to develop and field 
these capabilities. That progress is reflected in over a dozen new 
efforts, including a mix of completely new or significantly re-scoped 
program elements, in our fiscal year 2024 budget submission. With our 
budget submission, the DAF's ability to execute these plans and to keep 
pace with the threat is now in your hands, and we urge you to act 
promptly on our fiscal year 2024 request.
    Within the NDS, there are four priorities: defending the homeland, 
deterring strategic attacks, deterring aggression, and building a 
resilient joint force. The Nation's Air and Space Forces have key roles 
to play in each of these, and this is reflected in our fiscal year 2024 
budget request.
    The need to defend the homeland is paced with the growing threat 
from the PRC. We have just seen a manifestation of this threat in the 
high-altitude surveillance balloon destroyed by an Air Force F-22 
fighter aircraft. While the recent high-altitude balloon incursion into 
our airspace may have garnered significant attention, there are other, 
more concerning threats to the homeland. PRC and Russian satellites 
observe the United States continuously. Cyber-attacks focused on 
intellectual property theft, penetration of critical infrastructure, 
espionage against national security networks, and disinformation, from 
both the PRC and Russia, are a constant reality. As the PRC increases 
the range of its conventional strike capabilities, the potential for 
missile strikes of various types against the homeland is increasing. In 
our fiscal year 2024 budget, we are once again requesting F-15EX and F-
35 fighter production. We are also accelerating our acquisition of a 
new space-based missile warning architecture to improve our warning and 
enable defenses against missile threats.
    To deter strategic attacks against the United States, our allies, 
and partners, the DAF continues programs to recapitalize the 
intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) and bomber legs of the 
nuclear triad. The Sentinel program, our ICBM replacement, is 
continuing in development. The Minuteman III, first deployed in 1970, 
is the oldest land-based strategic missile system in the world. Fiscal 
year 2024 budgets more than $4.4 billion for its replacement, Sentinel, 
which is critical for our nuclear modernization. For the bomber leg, we 
recently rolled out the B-21 Raider, which is scheduled to achieve its 
first flight this calendar year. Complementing our new bomber is the 
modernization of the B-52 and development of the Long-Range Standoff 
Weapon. Stable and consistent congressional support remains vital to 
ensuring a safe, secure, and effective nuclear deterrent. These 
programs and others that contribute to this priority are all fully 
funded in the fiscal year 2024 budget request.
    Our biggest challenge is maintaining and strengthening our capacity 
to deter aggression, and to prevail, if necessary, with priority to the 
PRC and the Indo-Pacific followed by the Russian challenge in Europe. 
While there is overlap with other priorities, the focus of our seven 
operational imperatives described in last year's posture statement has 
been on this challenge. The Nation's ability to project power, in the 
western Pacific in particular, is being challenged aggressively. The 
fiscal year 2024 budget request includes approximately $5 billion in 
funding focused directly on achieving the seven operational imperatives 
and includes several new initiatives. The DAF's Future Years Defense 
Program (FYDP) request includes nearly $35 billion in funding to 
continue our investments designed to address the operational 
imperatives. The criticality of these efforts highlights the importance 
of an on-time appropriation.
    Space has been recognized as a military domain of crucial 
importance to the joint force, allies, and partners, and to our ability 
to project power. The first operational imperative is to define the 
Space Force that we will need and to put the programs in place to field 
that force. The Space Force has two fundamental missions: to provide 
essential services to the joint force and to protect the joint force 
from adversary hostile uses of space systems. The ability to perform 
these missions is at risk today and that risk is increasing over time. 
Our space systems are threatened by a variety of growing anti-satellite 
capabilities, and the joint force is threatened by increasingly 
sophisticated adversary space-based systems intended to target the 
joint force. Our fiscal year 2024 budget request continues the work on 
a resilient missile warning constellation initiated last year. Our 
budget also builds out a more resilient space communications capability 
for the joint force, based on diversity and dispersion of communication 
satellites. This development work includes programs being managed by 
the Space Development Agency (SDA), now a part of the DAF and the Space 
Force, continuing to field distributed communications architectures. 
The total Space Force budget in the fiscal year 2024 request is $30 
billion, 15 percent above the enacted fiscal year 2023 Space Force 
appropriation. It includes over $2 billion and seven new efforts for 
this imperative. Other initiatives in this portfolio can be discussed 
at a higher level of classification.
    The Air and Space Forces play crucial roles in Joint All Domain 
Command and Control (JADC2). The second operational imperative is 
intended to ensure the totality of DAF Command, Control, 
Communications, and Battle Management (C3BM) programs provide an 
integrated capability with the resilience and performance needed to 
provide the Air Force and Space Force, the joint force, allies, and 
partners, with timely information and the systems to communicate, 
manage, and employ that information. Providing this capability 
resiliently is critical to enable our warfighters to make effective 
decisions in a high-speed, complex fight against our pacing challenge. 
The Advanced Battle Management System (ABMS) is one part of this 
overall effort, which has now been brought under the technical 
management of a recently created Program Executive Officer (PEO) for 
Integrated C3BM. Additionally, our Nuclear Command, Control, and 
Communications (NC3) capability investments will be synchronized with 
the PEO for Integrated C3BM efforts. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
submission includes a net of roughly $500 million for DAF C3BM, 
including an additional $65 million for one new effort in this area.
    If the United States is to deter aggression and prevail should 
conflict occur, we must have the ability to track and engage advancing 
enemy forces in the air, on the sea, and on land. The third operational 
imperative addresses this need with a combination of space-and air-
based systems. For space-based systems, the Space Force is working in 
close collaboration with the intelligence community to ensure that the 
joint force has the support it needs from integrated intelligence and 
operational support systems located in space. This will include 
operational space sensing, coupled with tasking and data management, 
designed with joint tactical warfighting as a primary mission. For 
airborne systems, the DAF is continuing the acquisition of the E-7A 
replacement for the E-3 airborne warning and control system. Other 
initiatives can be discussed at a higher level of classification. 
Overall, the fiscal year 2024 budget requests $431 million for moving 
target related systems (exclusive of the Intelligence Community and 
classified funding) and includes six new efforts.
    For over 75 years, the Air Force has dominated opponents in the 
air. The PRC is challenging that dominance, and we cannot afford 
complacency, nor can we afford Air Force capability and capacity 
composed largely of fighters that cost as much as or more than the F-
35. The fourth operational imperative addresses the family of-systems 
needed to sustain our dominance in the air. The centerpiece of this 
effort is the Next Generation Air Dominance (NGAD) platform, but this 
platform will be too expensive to be purchased in large numbers. The 
fiscal year 2024 budget enhances funding to field uncrewed 
Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) to complement the NGAD, F-35, and 
possibly other current and new crewed platforms. Concurrent with CCA 
development, the DAF will acquire assets for experimentation and 
testing to explore organizational structures, maintenance concepts, and 
operational tactics. CCA inventory goals have not been established, but 
for planning purposes, we are assuming an initial inventory of 1,000 
CCAs, with nominally two CCAs paired with each NGAD aircraft, and a 
portion of the F-35 inventory. In addition to the CCAs, this 
operational imperative has addressed other aspects of the NGAD family 
of-systems. In total, the fiscal year 2024 budget submission requests 
approximately $490 million for air dominance, with the entire CCA 
program and supporting elements encompassing three new efforts.
    The PRC and Russian investments in long-range precision strikes 
have put our forward airbases at risk. The Air Force's Agile Combat 
Employment (ACE) concept partially addresses this threat. The fifth 
operational imperative team analyzed additional steps to enhance 
forward air base availability and resiliency. In the fiscal year 2024 
budget request, the DAF prioritized actions that could be taken quickly 
to increase the overall resiliency of our forward-deployed air assets, 
including building hardened shelters and pre-positioning equipment and 
supplies needed to implement ACE. The fiscal year 2024 budget includes 
$1.2 billion to strengthen the resiliency and expand the availability 
of our forward airbases in the Indo-Pacific region. While not a new 
start, it represents a significant increase over fiscal year 2023 
funding levels.
    The Air Force's global strike capabilities provide a powerful 
conventional and strategic deterrent. The sixth operational imperative 
examined ways to improve the cost-effectiveness of the family of-
systems surrounding the B-21 bomber. As noted above, the B-21 Raider is 
fully funded in the fiscal year 2024 request, and it continues to make 
progress toward production and fielding. The Raider is more than a new 
platform, and this imperative identified new weapons, sensors, and 
communications that can make the B-21 more effective in the joint 
tactical fight. The fiscal year 2024 request includes $80 million to 
modernize our global strike capabilities and includes two new efforts.
    Both the Space Force and the Air Force have a number of systems and 
facilities on which they depend to mobilize and transition to wartime 
operations. The final operational imperative addressed the need to 
ensure these systems and facilities would function as needed in 
wartime. Much of the work to date under this imperative focused on the 
cyber-security of our critical information systems and infrastructure, 
especially modernizing and hardening our network infrastructure and 
giving our cyber operators new tools for cyber defense. Air and Space 
forces must also be capable of operating in a contested cyberspace 
environment. Our current budget reflects initial investments to achieve 
these objectives by cyber hardening networks, weapon systems, and 
priority defense critical infrastructure, and we recognize that there 
is much work to do in this area. The fiscal year 2024 budget request 
includes $613 million in this area to strengthen the DAF's 
cybersecurity posture. This represents a significant increase in 
enterprise information technology and cyber defense funding over fiscal 
year 2023 levels.
    The work on the operational imperatives over the past year has 
informed the fiscal year 2024 request, but it has also indicated some 
areas in which more effort is required. In just the last year, the 
threat has become more severe. As a result, the DAF is continuing and 
expanding our efforts to define solutions to the challenges we face. We 
are continuing the work of the seven operational imperatives to refine 
resource needs and plans across the lifecycle of these capabilities. In 
addition, we have started work on three cross-cutting operational 
enablers. These are mobility, electronic warfare, and munitions. These 
combined efforts will inform our fiscal year 2025 request, but they 
have already influenced our fiscal year 2024 plans.
    In the DAF mobility portfolio, the tanker recapitalization effort 
has been our highest priority. The KC-46 is still working to meet all 
its requirements, but we believe they will be achieved. As the threat 
continues to increase the range at which it can engage our aircraft, we 
are being forced to reexamine how we will operate these platforms. The 
mobility study we have initiated will identify new ways to achieve more 
mission resilience and effectiveness with existing platforms and will 
define the requirements for the next generation of tanker and transport 
aircraft. While it is too early to provide any results, one outcome 
seems probable: the next tanker must be much more survivable than 
current designs and is unlikely to be a derivative of a commercial 
aircraft design. The DAF will conduct an Analysis of Alternatives to 
determine the requirements and concept for the Next Generation Air-
Refueling System and we will evaluate our future mobility platform 
needs.
    Russia's war against Ukraine, Korea Readiness Review, and the 
experience combating the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) have 
taught us that munitions planning, production capitalization, and 
stockpiling must account for the possibility of a longer and more 
intense conflict than previously assumed. The munitions cross-cutting 
operational enabler analysis will inform our fiscal year 2025 budget, 
but we are not waiting to address our highest-priority munitions 
requirements. The target set for which we must be prepared is evolving. 
We must build a munitions inventory that is more diverse with greater 
capacity while accelerating design and production capability, which 
includes advanced weapons. In the fiscal year 2024 budget, we are 
increasing our procurement of munitions and partnering aggressively 
with the other services, allies, partners, and industry.
    The combat support area of electronic warfare (EW) must be 
reevaluated in light of emerging threats. Historically, EW development 
has been stove-piped for the sole purpose of providing enhanced 
survivability of individual platforms. As our adversaries have advanced 
their long-range sensing and targeting capabilities, we need to examine 
new ways to use EW as an offensive capability designed to defeat 
adversary kill webs. While most of this analytical work is classified, 
we expect new programs as well as some program restructuring in our 
fiscal year 2025 budget.
    Last year we indicated that hard choices would have to be made. 
Often those choices are between current and future capabilities. The 
DAF fiscal year 2024 budget provides an acceptable level of operational 
risk for the current force in order to fund the future force. Affording 
the investments necessary to implement the operational imperative-
derived recommendations requires both divestitures from the current 
force and an acceptance of risk in the level of readiness of the 
current force. Make no mistake: your Air Force and Space Force are 
ready and able to confront and defeat any adversary, but they are not 
being maintained at as high a level of readiness as might be possible. 
The fact is that the threat is racing to make those existing forces 
obsolete. The DAF must move as rapidly as possible to the future set of 
capabilities we need to sustain our deterrent and our ability to 
project power. There is not a moment to lose.
    We deeply appreciate the support of Congress in fiscal year 2023. 
Congress largely supported our divestiture requests in fiscal year 2023 
with one exception--the divestiture of 32 of our oldest and least 
capable F-22s. A year later, the threat is more severe, and the need to 
modernize is more pressing. This year we hope to continue the 
divestitures that were requested last year as we transition the force 
to one that is relevant to the threat. In particular, we are requesting 
the retirement of an additional 42 A-10's. This 40-plus-year-old 
fighter has served the Air Force and the Nation well, but it does not 
deter or survive against our pacing challenge, and we need to move 
forward.
    The Air and Space Forces are working to fulfill the NDS priority of 
building a resilient joint force and defense ecosystem. All our mission 
capabilities rest on one single foundation--our people. The hard work 
and dedication of over 700,000 military and civilian airmen and 
guardians across the Active, Guard, and Reserve components power our 
department. In fiscal year 2024, we vow to continue supporting them by 
ensuring they can serve to their fullest potential. We demand a culture 
of respect, will promote accountability, and aim to end harmful 
behaviors, such as sexual harassment, sexual assault, racial, ethnic, 
and gender disparities, domestic violence, domestic abuse, and suicide 
as well as hazing, bullying, and other forms of discriminatory 
harassment. We will also promote initiatives that improve diversity and 
inclusion, ensure quality healthcare access, advance recruitment and 
retention, and improve our talent management processes to strengthen 
readiness. Every current and potential airman and guardian should 
understand their value and the importance of service to our Nation.
    As we move forward to meet our challenges, we do so as members of a 
much larger team. First, the Air and Space Forces are critical members 
of the joint team. We are also members of an international team with 
our allies and partners who collectively ensure our success at 
achieving integrated deterrence against any threat, but first and 
foremost against our pacing challenge.
    Our people and our missions are successful because of teamwork. The 
fiscal year 2024 budget continues numerous investments, such as $194 
million for Pacific Deterrence initiatives, to strengthen our 
relationships and interoperability with our joint force, allies, 
partners, and interagencies. The North Atlantic Treaty Organization 
(NATO) is stronger than ever, and the ever-increasing F-35 community 
provides strong interoperability. In the Pacific, we are expanding our 
relationship with traditional partners like Japan, South Korea, and 
Australia, while strengthening our cooperation with nations like the 
Philippines and other Pacific Island nations. Our united resolve 
against Russian aggression and our combined focus on the pacing 
challenge in the Indo-Pacific highlight the incredible partnerships we 
have with democracies around the globe that share our values. As we 
research, test, acquire, and build the military capabilities of 
tomorrow, we strengthen and expand the Defense Industrial Base, and we 
do so in concert with our allied and partner nations.
                       united states space force
    The United States Space Force was created in recognition of the 
space domain's critical importance to national prosperity and the need 
to contest the domain for national security purposes. Recently, the 
U.S. has seen dramatic changes in the domain with an exponential 
increase of launches, on-orbit active payloads, space debris, and 
proliferation of counter-space threats. This reality presents new risks 
and opportunities to national objectives across diplomatic, 
information, military, and economic instruments of power. Consequently, 
ensuring our Nation's ability to operate in, from, and through a stable 
space domain is a vital national interest for the Space Force to 
address.
    Spacepower is not simply ``important'' in modern competition and 
conflict--it is foundational. Russia's war against Ukraine continues to 
validate this assertion in several ways. First, Russian counterspace 
attacks since the outset of the war reinforce the reality that space is 
a warfighting domain. Second, proliferating constellations and 
disaggregating space missions are proving to be far more resilient and 
effective, especially with commercial augmentation. Third, equipment 
alone cannot win in the modern fight. Winning takes space-enabled, 
multi-domain operations and a joint force trained on the most current 
operational concepts. In this environment, we must shift to a resilient 
and effective Space Order of Battle and ensure we have the tools, 
talent, and experience to be ready to face the challenges to our 
missions of providing space superiority so that we can enable and 
protect the joint force, our allies, and partners.
               space force's role in defending the nation
    A primary responsibility of the Space Force is to field ready, 
resilient, and combat-credible forces. To be ready, guardians must be 
trained, exercised, and postured. To be resilient, our architectures 
must be designed to render threats operationally impractical or self-
defeating. To be combat-credible, space forces need systems for full 
spectrum operations utilized by competent warfighters practiced in 
their tradecraft.
    Through the operational imperatives, we are defining the space 
systems and capabilities we need to prevail against the pacing 
challenges--the PRC and, secondarily, Russia. Through the work in the 
first operational imperative, we are focused on increasing resilience 
for space architecture by addressing the risks facing people, 
platforms, and processes through systems proliferated across multiple 
orbits. Resilient systems will allow us to prevent, respond, and 
campaign through competition and aggression. When operated by a ready, 
combat-credible force, resilient systems will disincentivize would-be 
aggressors.
    The fiscal year 2024 budget includes critical investments for 
meeting all four priorities demanded in the NDS and the DAF's first 
operational imperative by evolving toward more resilient space 
architectures. Building resilience must first consider the continuous 
operation of over 50 legacy platforms, which necessitates investing 
$172 million in fiscal year 2024 for additional cyber protection, 
evaluating select legacy systems for upgrades, and integrating space 
capabilities from several allies and partners. These upgrades will 
broaden the resilience of several mission areas, including military 
Positioning, Navigation and Timing (PNT), Command, Control, 
Communications, and Battle Management (C3BM) systems, and NC3 by 
migrating the Evolved Strategic SATCOM (ESS) system to a proliferated 
architecture that will be more resilient during a strategic attack.
    Still, the surest way to lessen long-term risk is through the 
generational replacement of legacy platforms. This year's budget 
requests $102 million to continue our analysis of the force design for 
how space-based systems support several critical warfighter needs, 
including delivering communications to the tactical edge, providing 
secure PNT information, and enabling data links that connect sensors, 
warfighters, and weapons. The insights gained from comprehensive force 
design analyses ensure we make effective and cost-effective transitions 
from legacy to next-generation space systems.
    The first mission area to undergo this transformation will be 
Missile Warning/Missile Tracking (MW/MT), with the last legacy Space-
Based Infrared System launch having occurred in 2022. In the fiscal 
year 2024 budget, we turn the page into a new era of MW/MT with over 
$2.3 billion to ramp up research, development, test, and evaluation of 
the first tranche of proliferated satellites, ground segment 
development, and interoperability testing which sets the way for a 
complete constellation in the years to follow. Additionally, we are on 
track to deliver the first Next-Gen Overhead Persistent Infrared 
geosynchronous space vehicle by 2025 to reduce risk and improve the 
transitional resiliency and effectiveness of MW/MT, missile defense, 
battlespace awareness, and technical intelligence.
    Recognizing that joint warfighters need to sustain and expand 
SATCOM capabilities, this budget pursues new solutions. MeshONE, for 
example, is a $151 million effort that will deliver a novel approach to 
a modern, scalable, resilient, cyber-secure Wide Area Network available 
to the joint force at the tactical edge. We are also leading the 
transformation of communications via the emerging space data transport 
layer. Beginning in fiscal year 2024, our investment of $1.8 billion 
will deliver an initial warfighter capability that will provide low-
latency data transport and beyond-line-of-sight targeting, with 
persistent regional access to the joint force. Once fully operational, 
this capability will serve as the backbone of data transport in support 
of C3BM and JADC2.
    We must also provide protection to the joint force and our allies 
from adversary space systems that threaten our forward-deployed forces 
and those of our partners. The fiscal year 2024 budget includes funding 
for critical counter-space capabilities intended to fulfill this 
mission need. Specific budgetary information is available at a higher 
level of classification.
    Our ability to use space effectively requires assured access, being 
first to field the necessary capabilities, and the ability to 
reconstitute them, if necessary. This budget ensures the National 
Security Space Launch (NSSL) program is equipped to place essential 
capabilities in orbit when needed. The NSSL program is preparing for a 
new phase in which we are pursuing a dual-lane, hybrid approach that 
maximizes the use of the Nation's robust commercial launch market. 
Recognizing the exponential growth of the commercial space industry, we 
are investing $99 million in fiscal year 2024 and over $1 billion over 
the FYDP into the Range of the Future vision, which aligns us with the 
accelerating domestic space launch market, and maintains safe and 
assured launch for commercial, civil, and Department of Defense users.
              space force's role in taking care of people
    The Space Force is implementing a more modern talent management 
approach based on a competency framework that optimizes individual 
contribution. Over the past year, we have made progress toward 
achieving our end State described in the Guardian Ideal. The result has 
been tangible impacts on retention and the development of guardians of 
all ranks. Our future hinges on recruiting and retaining a diverse and 
innovative force of highly talented guardians, and we are proud to have 
met our recruiting targets. Guardians will soon be leading an 
innovative approach to holistic health by emphasizing a continuously 
healthy lifestyle rather than episodic fitness testing. We are 
retooling how we measure healthy living and providing guardians and 
leaders with the resources they need to uphold the highest standards 
expected of military professionals.
    We are also advancing opportunities and education for all ranks and 
phases of a guardian's career. Starting with Basic Military Training, 
fiscal year 2024 will see graduation standards fully established, with 
guardians being held to service-specific requirements, while Air Force 
Officer Training School and Reserve Officers' Training Corps Space 
Force cadets will see increased space-related academic content. This 
budget will mature the University Partnership Program to inspire and 
recruit the right talent and provide additional opportunities for 
guardians to obtain advanced academic degrees in essential Science, 
Technology, Engineering, and Math subjects. Reflecting our continued 
commitment to professional military education, this budget funds the 
program with our first graduates in 2024. With congressional support, 
we intend to innovate by pursuing a personnel system with full-to part-
time fluidity that will improve career flexibility and enhance 
retention tools.
    Recruiting initiatives are only the beginning for guardians as 
space professionals. To develop professional warfighters, this budget 
commits to enhancing readiness by increasing the quality and quantity 
of realistic testing of new systems and training of guardians on them. 
By incrementally instituting Operational Test and Training 
Infrastructure and the National Space Test and Training Complex, fiscal 
year 2024s investment of $21 million will continue progress in 
delivering more realistic testing and training against a thinking 
adversary, much like the high-end fight our Nation may face in a future 
contingency. To do this, the Space Force will build agile operational 
capabilities and execute orbital experimentation to rapidly expand our 
technological prowess.
           space force's role in succeeding through teamwork
    Teamwork for the Space Force starts internally within the DAF, 
where the Space Force relies upon support from the Air Force. For 
example, the Air Force supports the six Space Force Bases with over 
8,000 Total Force Airmen providing numerous activities to the Space 
Force. This includes, but is not limited to, finance, contracting, 
education and training, child and youth services, dining, fitness, 
lodging, manpower, logistics, communications, medical, emergency 
services, and base security. Externally, the Space Force is building 
teams in four key areas: joint force, commercial industry, the 
intelligence community, and internationally.
    With congressional support, the Chief of Space Operations is 
formally designated as the Force Design Architect for Space Systems of 
the Armed Forces. This is important because our closest partnering 
efforts are inside the joint team. We are exercising our role as the 
integrator of all space requirements from and for the joint force as we 
merge and integrate requirements through more-responsive processes from 
sister services and Combatant Commands. Moreover, this budget requests 
to restructure the Space Force's organizations responsible for this 
important analytic work, namely by redesignating the Space Warfighting 
Analysis Center as a direct-reporting unit, which will increase 
responsiveness to warfighter needs.
    In coordination with the Intelligence Community (IC), guardians are 
also taking the initiative and exploring joint service intelligence, 
surveillance, reconnaissance, and targeting needs and opportunities. 
Inherent coordination in integration with the IC ensures that 
operational and intelligence requirements are being met efficiently, 
especially when they overlap and use shared assets. For example, the IC 
and DAF are similarly seeking new means for moving target engagement, 
the fourth operational imperative.
    To best partner with our industrial base and commercial space, we 
must improve space acquisition to be more dynamic, cost-sensible, and 
effective. In the past 3 years, several significant improvements have 
been made to the structure and relationships comprising space system 
acquisitions. For example, all major stakeholders in space acquisitions 
are collaborating to define resilient architectures, assess risks to 
identify needs, and drive rapid change that aims to deliver results 
faster than the threats can react. The nine acquisition principles 
developed by the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Space 
Acquisition and Integration will revamp acquisition strategy to 
epitomize responsive acquisitions that apply state-of-the-art 
commercial best practices.
    Expanding the use and future of the commercial space industry and 
academia across all mission areas organic to the Space Force and the 
joint force remains critical. These include satellite communications 
(SATCOM), space domain awareness (SDA), launch, PNT, and more. A 
strategic advantage for the United States is our robust, innovative, 
and responsive industrial base, which includes the highly specialized 
traditional defense industrial base and the highly innovative new 
commercial space industry segment. We are embracing a hybrid 
architecture of commercial solutions across many mission areas. Our 
approach to hybrid architectures affords several benefits including 
resiliency, cost competition, responsive surge capacity, rapid 
technology refreshment, increased innovation, improved diversification 
to industry, and more expedient integration with international 
partners.
    We continue to expand the team of allies we cooperate with across 
all mission areas. Space Systems Command recently delivered two SDA 
sensors on Japanese satellites to build SDA capacity and relations with 
a key ally in the Indo-Pacific region. In the European theater, our 
partnership with the Norwegian Ministry of Defense led to Enhanced 
Polar SATCOM payloads on two Norwegian satellites that will provide 
communications from highly elliptical orbits. The Space Force continues 
to address partnering challenges by implementing new classification 
guidance and sharing agreements, investing in more accessible hardware 
and software such as the Unified Data Library, and supporting DAF-and 
Department of Defense-wide solutions, particularly the Mission Partner 
Environment. The Space Force recognizes that the best solutions are 
preventative, such as the implementation of the Combined Space 
Operations Vision 2031 and the successful maturation of the NATO Space 
Centre. These structural improvements will help us to develop and 
operate resilient, interoperable architectures by and for coalitions.
                        united states air force
    The United States Air Force is critical to our national defense, is 
committed to airmen and families, and succeeds by teaming with our 
joint teammates, allies, and partners as we execute our mission to 
``Fly, Fight, and Win . . . Airpower Anytime, Anywhere.'' Our speed, 
agility, and lethality are exponential force multipliers to any global 
military operation. Our capabilities underwrite the entirety of the 
joint force, and we are uniquely suited to provide this cornerstone of 
the Nation's defense.
    To meet the threats facing the force of today and in the future, we 
must implement the programs that have been defined by the analysis of 
the seven DAF operational imperatives and continue the momentum of 
Accelerate Change or Lose. We are orienting our decisionmaking 
processes and shaping investments around resilience and lethality 
against the pacing challenge, long-range kill chains, and the elements 
supporting them. We remain dedicated to ensuring our investments and 
resources are properly aligned with the NDS to deter our adversaries 
and prevail in conflict. As the combat environment and the character of 
war continue to evolve, our determination to be the leader in speed, 
agility, and lethality remains an irreplaceable role for the joint team 
and our allies and partners.
                air force's role in defending the nation
    As stated above, we must continue to make hard choices in Airpower 
modernization to keep pace with our strategic competitors while 
balancing risk. The difficult decisions are far from over, and the 
measured near-term risk decisions which prioritize essential 
modernization and acceptable current readiness continue. Airpower 
modernization is critical to address the four NDS priorities: defending 
the homeland, deterring strategic attacks, deterring aggression, and 
building a resilient joint force.
    The NDS priorities depend upon platforms and capabilities that 
support effective command and control and are survivable in the threat 
environment of both today and tomorrow. In fiscal year 2024, we 
continue our modernization efforts while divesting platforms and 
capabilities that have decreasing relevance against our pacing 
challenge. Current airborne platforms, such as the E-3 and E-8, are not 
adequately survivable against emerging threats, are not optimal for 
joint or coalition operations, and need to continue divestiture as we 
look to the future. These airborne capabilities play a critical role in 
meeting the operational imperative to track and engage enemy forces at 
scale. A combination of space-and air-based systems will be needed to 
maximize lethality and close kill chains. We remain committed to 
balancing current, mid-term, and longer-term capability and capacity by 
divesting the E-3 while rapidly acquiring and fielding the E-7A to 
modernize efficiently.
    A focused redesign of the C3BM network, being pursued under the 
second operational imperative, is overdue and a top-priority 
modernization effort that will define and field ABMS capabilities. The 
establishment of the C3BM Integrating PEO will align command and 
control modernization efforts across the DAF and with the joint force. 
ABMS will fulfill the Air Force's integral contribution to JADC2 and 
the fiscal year 2024 budget focuses on building and maturing ongoing 
programs.
    Air superiority for the joint force demands affordable Airpower 
modernization, which includes NGAD. The fiscal year 2024 budget 
continues NGAD development. The NGAD family of-systems operational 
imperative will provide an innovative suite of capabilities that allow 
us to establish and maintain air superiority, a precondition for the 
joint force's freedom of maneuver. The uncrewed CCA program included in 
this budget is a significantly enhanced activity for air superiority 
and is targeted to support both NGAD and the F-35. The CCA program will 
have three simultaneous lines of development--the platform, autonomy, 
and unit construct.
    In addition to the longer-term operational imperative programs 
described above, the modernization decisions we are making consider the 
entirety of the Air Force's capability and capacity mix. As we work to 
develop a new generation of capabilities, we are also working to 
improve current and mid-term capability and capacity. This process 
includes replacing some legacy platforms, namely the MH-139A replacing 
the UH-1N, and the Survivable Airborne Operations Center replacing the 
E-4B. It also includes modernizing existing platforms that will remain 
in operation for many years, including the B-1, B-2, B-52, C-17, C-5, 
F-16, F-15E, F-22, and F-35 fleets. Within the fiscal year 2024 budget, 
we have committed over $12 billion to modernize these existing 
platforms. These modernization efforts are designed to improve mid-term 
capability and reduce risk while providing needed capacity to 
complement the improved capabilities provided by the programs defined 
by the operational imperatives and the new families-of-systems such as 
the B-21 and NGAD.
    As noted earlier, capable, improved, and complementary munitions 
are needed for both our new and existing platforms. We are prioritizing 
investments in munitions and technology to counter pacing threats in 
highly contested environments. This includes investments in both air-
to-air and air-to-surface capabilities to engage mobile targets from 
standoff ranges in adverse weather. Investments into hypersonic 
munitions will enable us to hold high-value, time-sensitive targets at 
risk in contested environments from standoff distances. The fiscal year 
2024 budget invests over $5 billion to support Small Diameter Bomb II, 
Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missile, Hypersonic Attack Cruise 
Missile, Air-Launched Rapid Response Weapon, and more munitions' 
facilitation across the defense industrial base. These investments will 
shorten the kill chain while supporting the moving target operational 
imperative.
    For the current force, we are pursuing improved readiness through 
multiple channels, including the Air Force Force Generation model 
(AFFORGEN). AFFORGEN enables the presentation of sustainable, 
predictable capacity and capabilities while ensuring operational 
preparedness and required readiness. AFFORGEN balances risk between 
Combatant Command requirements, Air Force readiness, and modernization 
by deploying pre-identified units and/or teams who have trained 
together to improve performance. AFFORGEN will meet initial operational 
capability in fiscal year 2024.
    Agile Combat Employment (ACE) increases readiness by dispersing 
operations from large bases to networks of smaller locations and 
provides the basis for the operational imperative of resilient forward 
basing. We are standardizing the concepts and terms of ACE in Air Force 
Doctrine as well as incorporating them into ongoing exercises and 
worldwide training. There is $1.2 billion to fund the resilient forward 
basing operational imperative this fiscal year in addition to funding 
for ACE. Additional work is being done to identify and create 
capabilities and formalized training programs to field an agile force 
that sets the theater and establishes distributed command and control.
    The Flying Hour Program (FHP) and Weapon System Sustainment (WSS) 
budget requests ensure our airmen have the training and equipment 
necessary to ``Fly, Fight, and Win.'' The $9 billion in fiscal year 
2024 funds our FHP to levels that can be reasonably executed and meet 
our readiness requirements. Our WSS fiscal year 2024 funding of over 
$19 billion is aligned with our FHP but is challenged by requirements 
growth due to an aging fleet, the fielding of more complex weapons 
systems, increasing operational requirements, and increasing organic 
and contract costs.
    Execution of our mission requires appropriate infrastructure 
support and resilient basing. The Facilities, Sustainment, Restoration, 
and Modernization (FSRM) efforts focus on prioritizing existing 
quality-of-life requirements and maintaining our operational and 
training infrastructure. In addition to new mission builds for Military 
Construction (MILCON) projects, we are pursuing improvements for our 
airmen, supported guardians, and their families to our Child 
Development Centers (CDC) and dorms with targeted investments totaling 
$107 million in fiscal year 2024 MILCON and $294 million in FSRM. Since 
1990, we have 60 percent fewer fighter squadrons, 40 percent fewer 
airmen, but only 15 percent fewer installations in the continental 
United States. Our fiscal year 2024 budget reflects our commitment to 
right-sizing our facilities and infrastructure footprint through 
consolidations, demolitions, and optimizing our space utilization.
               air force's role in taking care of people
    Taking care of our people begins with recruiting the best military 
and civilian airmen of tomorrow. In fiscal year 2023, the Active Duty 
component of the Air Force is projected to miss military enlistment 
requirements by about 10 percent, over three thousand individuals. The 
Air Guard and Reserve components are projected to miss their goals by 
even higher margins. To maximize our pool of eligible individuals and 
to recruit the best our Nation has to offer, we are working to reduce 
barriers and connect with young people and communities. While 
maintaining our established standards, we are reviewing and removing 
barriers to service and offering enhanced financial opportunities to 
those who wish to serve. Additionally, we are taking a targeted 
approach to open our bases to local communities to strengthen 
connections and help influencers and potential recruits see the many 
possible opportunities we have to offer for a rewarding career and 
personal development. We are also highlighting, particularly online, 
the positive experiences of Air Force veterans who have moved on to 
successful careers outside the military.
    Once airmen join our team, the focus shifts from recruitment to 
retention. Congress provided critical retention tools to the Services 
last year with increases in basic pay, housing, and subsistence rates--
providing a viable compensation package. Our focus on improving the 
quality of life for our airmen includes improving the childcare 
availability for our members. The fiscal year 2024 budget includes new 
CDC construction, existing CDC facility improvements, staffing 
initiatives, and additional childcare providers.
    Military housing is another important way we have focused on 
retention. Our fiscal year 2024 budget includes funding for continued 
investment in DAF's government-owned and government-leased housing 
based on the need to support mission requirements, address health and 
safety concerns, and modernize housing for unaccompanied personnel. Our 
fiscal year 2024 budget also includes Family Housing Construction funds 
for prioritized investments in DAF's Military Housing Privatization 
Initiative (MHPI) portfolio to improve the safety, quality, and 
habitability of select privatized housing projects and ensure their 
long-term financial viability. We remain committed to providing 
continued oversight of the private sector MHPI companies that own and 
operate privatized housing projects on DAF installations to hold MHPI 
companies accountable for project performance, problems with property 
management, and inappropriate business practices. In addition, we will 
continue to engage with local civic leaders to increase the 
availability of affordable, quality off-base housing options for our 
servicemembers and their families.
    Retention efforts must also ensure military members and families 
have access to the care and support they need--including mental health. 
As the Nation struggles with a shortage of mental health providers, we 
are employing various innovative means to provide this care to airmen 
and guardians. The Targeted Care program improves access to care by 
connecting people to the most appropriate resource given their needs. 
Additionally, we are implementing the recommendations of the 
Independent Review Commission on Sexual Assault in the Military, as 
approved by the Secretary of Defense, and leaning forward on exploring 
the co-location of victim support services. Furthermore, we are 
implementing groundbreaking military justice reforms to establish the 
Office of Special Trial Counsel, which will provide expert, 
independent, and specialized support for the investigation and 
prosecution of serious crimes such as sexual assault. We are also ready 
to begin implementation of the Department of Defense's Suicide 
Prevention and Response Independent Review Committee recommendations 
and have leaned forward on restructuring prevention training, 
increasing emphasis on lethal means safety and behavioral health 
workforce development.
    Retention also requires that our talent management decisions are 
optimized for both the member and the Air Force. The Airmen Leadership 
Qualities we value must be reflected in our systems and transparent to 
our members. We are in the process of categorizing 161 specialties and 
approximately 19,000 functional skills to map flexible designs which 
align with the talent of our airmen and are adaptive to emerging 
technologies and threats.
    To develop the airmen of tomorrow, our evaluation systems and 
supporting data systems must be modernized. Fiscal year 2023 saw the 
beginning of new officer and enlisted evaluation systems which will 
generate over 17 million data points to drive enhanced talent 
management decisions and reduce administrative burdens in the future. 
The new processes, enabled in part by the fiscal year 2024 investments 
into digital infrastructure and tech refresh, will increase agility and 
flexibility to build the talent management structure we need. 
Concurrently, we are also implementing a dual-track ``Civilians We 
Need'' career model identifying functional expert and enterprise leader 
tracks on a model designed to allow flexible career paths based on the 
members' evolving needs.
            air force's role in succeeding through teamwork
    Teamwork for the Air Force begins within the DAF, where the Air 
Force relies upon and supports the Space Force. The Air Force and Space 
Force are inextricably linked through shared history, current 
activities, and future operations. The Air Force relies heavily on 
Space Force for the technical development and execution of each of the 
operational imperatives and other necessary capabilities. Neither the 
Air Force nor the Space Force alone has the situational awareness and 
decision support tools to close hundreds of kill chains on relevant 
timelines in all domains in a highly contested environment. We can only 
be successful through teamwork to provide survivable, long-range, 
persistent families-of-systems across multiple modalities and as a part 
of a full joint and combined force. The Air Force depends upon a ready, 
resilient, and effective Space Force.
    Our teamwork extends to the entirety of the joint force and 
Combatant Commands. Each of the operational imperatives and our broader 
capability investments supports the joint force by providing the 
capabilities necessary to deter and, if necessary, defeat any 
challenger. We play a vital role in homeland defense through air domain 
awareness and the provision of Airpower. We are also leveraging the 
capabilities of the mission and system level cyber risk assessment 
components of the Strategic Cybersecurity Program, led by the Under 
Secretary of Defense for Acquisitions and Sustainment, to help inform 
investments in cyber risk mitigation. The joint force's ability to 
effectively mobilize, deploy, and sustain forces cannot be accomplished 
without the mobility assets we provide. This fiscal year 2024 budget 
includes $252 million of investment in support of the integrated 
priority lists of the Combatant Commands. All our platforms and 
airborne capabilities contribute to joint force combat power, and we 
remain committed to providing capabilities to the Combatant Commands in 
the execution of their missions.
    Beyond the joint force, we are seeking to expand how we team with 
our international allies and partners. Investments in readiness, human 
capital, infrastructure, and relationships with allies and partners 
remain foundational to balance present-day demands and set conditions 
for the future. This budget request, coupled with support from our 
allies and partners, enables responses to imminent threats while also 
seeking to improve the teamwork and interoperability of the allied and 
partner forces to win the fight of the future.
    To ensure maximum teamwork with our allies and partners, we are 
seeking to expand interoperability through an Integrated by Design 
process. Integrated by Design is not a replacement for our current 
security efforts, but it ensures that we collaborate and make decisions 
together on interoperability, resource investment, information sharing, 
force development, and strategy from the very beginning of our programs 
with the end State constantly in mind. Conversations with allies and 
partners about developing capabilities that are complementary instead 
of competitive will also better align us to face future challenges in 
unity. That unity will be a comparative advantage against threats that 
seek military, technological, or economic means to challenge our 
collective national security.
                               conclusion
    The Department of the Air Force fiscal year 2024 budget prioritizes 
defending the Nation, taking care of our people, and succeeding through 
teamwork by balancing the risk between maintaining current readiness, 
mid-term improvements, and longer-term modernization. Current readiness 
is being maintained at acceptable levels to support combatant 
commanders while investments are made in mid-and longer-term 
modernization that is critical to developing, building, and fielding 
the force needed for the future. The modernization efforts defined by 
the operational imperatives are not optional; they are called 
imperatives for a reason. No one can predict when a war with any 
potential threat may happen, and war is not inevitable. Nevertheless, 
the PRC, our pacing challenge, is actively and effectively developing 
the capabilities it believes are needed to defeat the American ability 
to project power. The PRC is also expanding and improving its strategic 
forces and experimenting with destabilizing novel concepts. The DAF 
must move forward as quickly as possible, or we will fall behind. No 
one should doubt our current capabilities, which remain the strongest 
the world has ever seen. Nevertheless, we are in a race for 
technological and operational superiority more challenging than 
anything we have ever experienced. In this environment, timely and 
soundly balanced investments in current, mid-term, and longer-term Air 
and Space Forces are essential to our continued security. Our most 
sacred duty to our airmen and guardians is to provide them with the 
tools they need to be successful. We believe the budget we have 
submitted for fiscal year 2024 meets that need, but time is our most 
precious asset, and we urge Congress to move quickly to fund and 
authorize our proposed budget to enable the new starts, significantly 
rescoped program investments, and required capabilities that will allow 
us to keep pace with the threat.

    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, General. I have been 
informed we have something more than just a microphone issue. 
We have a system issue. So, they are working on it right now.
    But in the interim, we will have to share microphones. So, 
you can sit close together, or--let me begin my questioning by 
touching on a point that was raised by Senator Wicker. That is 
the E-7. All of my trips to the Pacific particularly have 
emphasized the importance of getting this system.
    Last year, we were able to include $200 million extra to 
accelerate the production, and it was hoped that we would get 
one aircraft in testing by 2027. But Secretary Kendall and 
General Brown, what is the earliest point we think we can get 
the E-7 into testing?
    Secretary Kendall. We looked hard at trying to accelerate 
the program, Mr. Chairman, to move the initial stages faster. 
We didn't find a way to do that. So, I think we are basically 
on track with the same schedule that we showed you last year.
    The one thing that could be done would be to add funding 
that would accelerate the production of the follow-on units, 
not the first one, but the follow-on ones. But we were not able 
to afford that in our budget.
    Chairman Reed. Now, there was, I think, a presumption that 
we would buy the Australian version of the E-7. They are 
already flying the aircraft. Have we abandoned that approach?
    Secretary Kendall. No, we are still using--there are some 
modifications that have to be made for use in U.S. airspace, to 
comply with some of our communications requirements and so on, 
but they are relatively modest. We are also working with the 
Australians on follow on upgrades to the E-7 that would enhance 
its capabilities.
    Chairman Reed. You are asking for $633 million this year, 
which will be, as you indicated, to acquire long lead time 
items and accelerate the production of succeeding aircraft. 
Again, I think this is absolutely essential program, given what 
I have heard out in the Pacific. General Brown, I think, would 
you concur?
    General Brown. I would, and one of the things I would 
highlight is that in our relationship with the Australians, we 
are going to be able to send here in June, close to 50 to 60 of 
our airmen to actually start training on the E-7s. When we do 
get the aircraft, we will have trained operatives and 
maintainers to help accelerate bringing the E-7 into our 
inventory.
    Chairman Reed. Very good. Another issue is the 
collaborative combat aircraft, which I think makes a great deal 
of sense. That essentially a manned aircraft would be operating 
unmanned aircraft.
    One of the constraints I think we have is the number of 
missiles available for our aircraft right now, and creating 
this autonomous capability with multitudes of other aircraft 
would compound our missile problem. Can you just comment, 
Secretary and General Brown, on the missile issue?
    Secretary Kendall. We are trying to do a balanced set of 
investments, and that includes the weapons as well as the 
platforms. The budget request includes three multi-year 
requests for weapons systems, for missiles, for AMRAAM 
[Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missile], JASSM [Joint Air-
to-Surface Standoff Missile], and LRASM [Long Range Anti-Ship 
Missile].
    We are also trying to increase the production capacity that 
you have when we get it in production. We added, I think, about 
$1.5 billion for munitions procurement in this budget over last 
year's just for the reasons that you stated.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, and General Brown, any further 
comments?
    General Brown. That extra funding will help the facilitate, 
so we actually--as we, you know, funding, we can actually 
increase the production rate not only for AMRAAM, but JATM, 
which is the follow on to AMRAAM, is also going to be important 
aspect to support the collaborative combat aircraft.
    Chairman Reed. This has sent a positive signal to the 
industrial base that you are here for the long run?
    Secretary Kendall. Absolutely.
    General Brown. That is correct.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. General Saltzman, 
you referred to this in your testimony, but can you give us a 
quick update on the status--and please try a microphone. I 
think----
    General Saltzman. Did it work?
    Chairman Reed. Thank you. It was the Air Force and the 
Space Force that combined in a few seconds and fixed it, so, 
here we go. Question, tests and training ranges. You are at a 
point now where you have to develop them.
    They will be quite different than hundreds of acres of land 
someplace in the Midwest or the far West. Can you give us an 
idea of where you are on your range and your infrastructure for 
range testing?
    General Saltzman. Yes, sir. Thank you, Senator. We, of 
course, have simulators and we have some very nascent early 
models of what I will call ``virtual ranges'' to accomplish our 
training. I just don't think they are sufficient yet. Primarily 
because they don't replicate the threat effectively.
    So, the budget proposal adds several hundred million, about 
$340 million across the FYDP [Future Years Defense Program] in 
order to increase the fidelity of our simulators and allow us 
to inject threats into the environment so that our crews can 
validate their tactics and validate their training against a 
thinking adversary.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much. Senator Wicker, please.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Thank you very much. Secretary 
Kendall, thank you for starting off with the MacArthur quote 
about too late. It does segue right into a number of things I 
mentioned in my opening statement, sir.
    The ICBM replacement program could be delayed. That would 
cause us to fall further behind on nuclear modernization. 
Delays in the F-35 Block 4 upgrades. The T-17 trainer aircraft.
    The Chairman has also--has already gone into the E-7 
command and control aircraft, which would replace the 1975 era 
AWACS. What happened to the $200 million that we provided last 
year to accelerate this program, which ended up not getting 
accelerated?
    Secretary Kendall. Sir, are you referring to the E-7?
    Senator Wicker. Yes, the E-7, command and control aircraft. 
I am sorry, did not make that clear.
    Secretary Kendall. That program has been moving as fast as 
we are able to move it. I did a personal review of the steps 
that are necessary to get it into the first phase of testing, 
and we couldn't find a way to do that. I am not sure about the 
$200 million that you are referring to and what was done with 
that----
    Senator Wicker. All right, well, the Chairman mentioned in 
his question that at the Air Force's request we appropriated 
another $200 million above the President's Budget Request to 
accelerate this program. It did not get accelerated, and we 
wonder where the $200 million went.
    Then there is a larger question that the Chairman alluded 
to, there is the E-7 Wedgetail that is being used by our allies 
in Australia. That is being used very effectively by them, and 
so, General Brown, do you know where the $200 million went?
    General Brown. Some of that aspect, the money went into the 
initial development and getting things on contract. So, you 
start--also the long lead items to develop the aircraft.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, now, Secretary Kendall was 
asked when this E-7 will now be ready, and I don't think we got 
an answer to that, Secretary Kendall. You said it would just 
still be on the original schedule. When would that be ready?
    Secretary Kendall. 2027, is the year we will be fielding, 
because it takes 2 years to build the new airplane. Then we 
have to take another 2 years, roughly, to modify it and put it 
into testing----
    Senator Wicker. Okay, and why----
    Secretary Kendall.--so the first aircraft--2027.
    Senator Wicker. Why is it necessary for an aircraft that is 
already functioning well for one of our allies?
    Secretary Kendall. Because we are getting new production 
aircraft. Their commercial aircraft but then modified to put 
the radar system and the command and control systems inside 
them.
    In order to preserve airworthiness, you have to actually 
acquire the commercial aircraft and then open it up to insert 
the other things that you need to put in it.
    Senator Wicker. Okay.
    Secretary Kendall.--and that whole process takes a period 
of time.
    Senator Wicker. Okay. Well, it is a fact, though, that 
Congress at the request of the service provided an extra $200 
million for acceleration, and we didn't get any acceleration. 
That is correct, is it not?
    Secretary Kendall. I think what General Brown indicated, 
what you got with that was some long lead items being purchased 
to reduce risk in the program.
    Senator Wicker. We didn't get any acceleration, did we?
    Secretary Kendall. I would have to check that for the 
record. I am not aware that you got acceleration.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    Secretary Kendall. The fiscal year 2024 budget requests a 
total of $228.2 million for the T-7 program; an increase of 
$165.8 million above the fiscal year 2023 request for $62.4 
million. Specifically, the fiscal year 2024 budget request 
includes: $44.4 million in aircraft procurement funding for 
long-lead items; $77.3 million in Research, Development, Test & 
Evaluation; $49.7 million in Operations & Maintenance; $39.5 
million of MILCON; $12.9 million of other procurement at 
beddown bases; and $4.3 million of MilPay. If authorized and 
appropriated, the fiscal year 2024 budget will fund T-7 program 
efforts to meet the revised projected Milestone C production 
decision in the first quarter of fiscal year 2025.

    Senator Wicker. Okay. You get back to us on the record. 
Secretary Brown, how important is this T-7 air training 
aircraft and to what sort of a disadvantage are we at that this 
has been delayed once again.
    General Brown. The importance of the T-7 is to replace an 
aircraft for a 60's era T-38 aircraft. As we bring it on, one 
of our challenges is continue the maintainability of the T-38 
or the delays that right now we have with the T-7.
    It is a better aircraft, the T-7 is a better aircraft. I 
had a chance to personally fly it in a simulator to see how it 
operates, but that is going to help us reduce our pilots at a--
because of a glass cockpit as well, at a better rate and to be 
able to transition to the current capabilities we have today.
    Senator Wicker. Another delay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Wicker. Senator Shaheen, 
please.
    Secretary Kendall. Could I clarify a point for Senator 
Wicker? When we have talked about acceleration of E-7, 
generally we have talked about getting more inventory sooner, 
not getting the first airplane sooner.
    I think there may have been some confusion because of the 
way we have used the word accelerate. We get more inventory in 
the hands of people faster than we would have with the profile 
we initially proposed, but you don't get the first airplane 
faster.
    Senator Wicker. Inventory. What do you mean by that?
    Secretary Kendall. We, instead of going a profile of one, 
two, three, for example, we go one, three, three. So, you get 
additional aircraft sooner than you would have otherwise. So, 
the total deliveries are accelerated, but not the first 
aircraft.
    Senator Wicker. Thank you, sir.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Secretary. Senator Shaheen.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Kendall 
and General Brown--Secretary Kendall, you talked about timely 
authorizations and appropriations in your opening statement.
    General Brown, you also referred to on time appropriations 
as being critical. What will happen to your role, the role of 
the Air Force and the Space Force, for that matter, if the 
United States defaults on its debt?
    Secretary Kendall. That is a very big question, Senator. I 
am not an economist. I am trained in business. For any 
creditors to default on their debt causes a number of 
reactions, right. It is more expensive for you to get money.
    Your creditors aren't as willing to lend money. People are 
not as willing to lend money to you. All the economists that I 
have seen suggest that it would be an absolutely devastating 
impact.
    When you have--the closest thing I have seen to this is the 
2008 crisis, when the Congress was asked to pass several 
hundred billion dollars of funds to shore up the financial 
system. I remember watching the screen as the stock market 
completely collapsed as that bill was being voted down in the 
Congress.
    That is the sort of thing that we are talking about. I 
think most people would predict a severe recession, at least. 
Then going forward, one of the biggest parts of our Federal 
budget is the interest on the debt.
    If those interest rates go up, which is what happens to you 
when you default, if you can borrow money at all, then that 
expense becomes much greater and the interest on the debt is 
already roughly at the level of defense budget.
    The short answer to your question is, it would be 
devastating.
    Senator Shaheen. You talked about the threat from China, 
which I think we would all agree is our major competitor. What 
would China's reaction be to that kind of catastrophic 
financial outcome in the United States?
    Secretary Kendall. That is probably beyond my expertise to 
comment on intelligently. But obviously, anything that damages 
us would be a benefit to China.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you, so, it is probably not good for 
us to default on our debt.
    Secretary Kendall. That is a significant understatement, I 
think.
    Senator Shaheen. Thank you. General Brown, during the 
recent appearance before the Appropriations Defense 
Subcommittee, we had a conversation about the deficiency with 
the KC-46's slow guidance system, and you said you had not 
heard anything about that. Have you had a chance to look into 
that? Do you have an answer for what the impact of that will 
be?
    General Brown. I regret that I haven't been able to dig 
into the details on that. But just in my conversations with our 
operators and also with AMC [Air Mobility Command], the 
aircraft is going fairly well right now despite some of the 
deficiencies that we are finding. As I think, I highlighted 
before, is operating and supporting all of our aircraft with 
the exception of the A-10.
    [The information referred to follows:]

    General Brown. Air Force Operational Test and Evaluation 
Center submitted a Category I (CAT-I) Deficiency Report (DR) 
for multiple cargo issues in January 2022, many of which were 
tied to insufficient/complex weight and balance and cargo 
loading tools, manuals, and procedures. The load guidance 
system in question is referring to this multi-faceted cargo DR, 
which was adjudicated and downgraded to CAT-II in November 
2022. Until the deficiencies are resolved, there is potential 
for delays in loading and unloading KC-46A missions. The Air 
Force and Boeing are currently working through short-and long-
term solutions, providing incremental capability improvement 
and resolution.

    Senator Shaheen. Well, I will continue to ask you, so 
hopefully you will be able to get an answer for how that is 
affecting the operations of the KC-46. General Saltzman, in 
Ukraine, we have seen the role of commercial satellite 
companies and how important those are, and obviously that is 
going to continue to be critical in terms of the Space Force.
    You talked a little bit about the training and how to 
incorporate dealing with those commercial satellites. Can you 
talk about how important it is to adapt our training and to 
really make use of the commercial innovation that is going on?
    General Saltzman. One of the areas that I think is ripe for 
exploitation is the idea of virtual augmentation or virtual 
reality as we have seen it.
    There is a lot of very promising technologies associated 
with how you could do virtually augmented reality training so 
that the operators can experience something that day to day 
they don't get to experience in space.
    Sometimes the orbital mechanics are hard to visualize, but 
you can use these tools to help you understand proximity 
between spacecraft, proximity of how solar arrays are turned. 
There is a lot of exploitation that we can do with those kinds 
of technologies, and we are looking into those with commercial 
industry.
    Senator Shaheen. Good. I have actually had one of those 
demonstrations. They are very impressive. You also, General 
Saltzman talked about the opportunities for full and part time 
availability in Space Force to bring private sector talent to 
the force.
    As the co-chair of the National Guard Caucus, I know that 
the National Guard has a lot of interest in participating in 
Space Force in some capacity, and there is still a fair amount 
of confusion about how that is going to work. Can you talk 
about the progress that we have been--we have made on how we 
are going to incorporate the National Guard into Space Force?
    General Saltzman. Well, it is two different things at this 
juncture. First is the legislative proposal that we have put 
forward that helps establish the Air Force Reserve space 
elements into the Space Force proper, a single component that 
would have both full time and part time.
    We think that is a very innovative way to establish this 
career path flexibility that will have retention impacts for 
us. The second situation is the Space National Guard or the Air 
National Guard capabilities that are performing space, separate 
and distinct from the legislative proposal.
    The most important thing to me is that we retain the 
capabilities that are currently in the Air National Guard. It 
is about a 1,000 people. It is seven different states with 
tremendous space capabilities that we rely on every day.
    So, it is important that we maintain that expertise and 
those capabilities. What we have said is there is probably 
multiple ways where we can retain those, but we have to move 
away from the status quo because we have got this disconnect 
between my responsibilities for the mission, but General 
Brown's responsibilities to currently OT&E [Organize, Train and 
Equip] those space capabilities in the Air National Guard.
    Where status quo causes problems, there are other ways to 
evaluate those, and we are going through all the costing and 
analysis to make sure that we can provide decisionmakers with 
the right balance between the two.
    Senator Shaheen. Well, thank you. I look forward to hearing 
the outcome of those discussions. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Shaheen. Senator Fischer, 
please.
    Senator Fischer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary, I 
want to ask you about an underappreciated but absolutely 
integral part of our nuclear enterprise, and that is NC3 
[nuclear command, control and communications] modernizations. 
Senator King often refers to that as the fourth leg of our 
triad, and I agree with him on the absolute importance of that. 
Can you please describe how this budget request supports NC3 
modernization and why it is so important that we get this 
effort right?
    Secretary Kendall. Thank you, Senator. The NC3 is an 
essential part of the triad. It actually has to be secure and 
resilient so they can function in an emergency. What we are 
doing is we are replacing and getting the next generation of 
AEHF [Advanced Extremely High Frequency] satellites for secure 
communications. We are investing in that.
    We are also investing in the radios that are carried by 
some of our aircraft that are nuclear capable, and we are 
investing in some of our software systems that are used to 
manage nuclear functions.
    We have fully funded investment accounts in each of those 
areas to make sure we stay current and provide the secure 
nuclear communications that are necessary.
    Senator Fischer. Would you say we are on schedule in that 
modernization? Do you feel pretty confident that we are where 
we need to be?
    Secretary Kendall. I am never 100 percent confident in 
schedules. Every new program, every development program in 
particular, entails risk. I am not aware of anything that--
there is nothing that is keeping me up at night in that area 
right now.
    Senator Fischer. Okay. Good to hear. General Brown, I would 
like to ask you about the Sentinel program. The Sentinel in 
placement is one of the largest and most complex projects that 
the Department has undertaken in decades. What efforts are 
currently being undertaken to ensure that this program remains 
on schedule?
    General Brown. There are several things that we are doing 
to keep Sentinel on schedule. Part of that is the dialog 
between the Department of the Air Force with our industry 
partners. I meet with the CEO [Chief Executive Officer] on a 
quarterly basis where we walk through where they are.
    One of the key aspects we are looking at is trying to be 
more proactive than reactive on this and really thinking ahead 
to ensure we are doing things to drive down risk as far as 
supply chains, workforce. To stay ahead of, and then on top of 
that, as we are working through right now for the land 
acquisition, our working that process as well.
    Right now, I think the dialog is important and that is what 
is really helping us keep things on track. There are no 
surprises or minimizes surprises, and being able to engage and 
mitigate well in advance of any type of event that might impact 
the critical path.
    Senator Fischer. As you look ahead, and you are talking 
about mitigation on disruptions that can occur, what keeps you 
up at night?
    General Brown. Well, just the size of this particular 
program and the aspect of how important is to our strategic 
deterrence. Because of the size of the program and the time it 
is going to take, those are the things that concern me, because 
there is a lot of things going to happen between now and when 
we fully field. But our goal here is to stay ahead of those and 
ensure that we mitigate any type of challenge.
    Senator Fischer. Are we on track for that goal?
    General Brown. We are now, and that is part of the yard 
work between ourselves and industry partners.
    Senator Fischer. Okay, thank you. Secretary Kendall, I was 
with you on the rollout for the B-21 Raider. Can you provide us 
with any updates or new developments on that program?
    Secretary Kendall. There haven't been any fundamental 
changes since we were there, Senator. We are still, as far as I 
know, on track to have our first flight later this year.
    Senator Fischer. Can you tell me how the budget request 
this year is going to help to expand munitions production 
capacity?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes. We are asking for multiyear 
production for three systems, JASSM, LRASM, and AMRAAM. We are 
also entering production, hopefully for JDAM [joint direct 
attack munitions], the new air to air missile. We are going to 
be asking for funds to increase the size of that production 
line, the capacity of that production line from what we had 
originally planned.
    Senator Fischer. Okay, good. Also, Secretary Kendall and 
General Brown, I was pleased to see that there is full funding 
for the RC-135 program in the budget request for this year.
    The RC-135 is highly capable ISR [intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance] platform that provides 
critical intelligence to decisionmakers and enables the United 
States to maintain a strategic advantage over potential 
adversaries.
    We see those efforts and how important they are in Ukraine 
and also with our NATO allies. Thank you for getting that in 
there, and I expect to see continued full support for the RC-
135 fleet in future years as well. Thank you both very much. 
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Fischer. Senator King, 
please.
    Senator King. Thank you. Secretary Kendall, which do you 
consider a more serious immediate threat to National Security, 
China, or the failure of this Congress to pass a budget and go 
with a 1-year continuing resolution?
    Secretary Kendall. They are not the same category, Senator, 
but I take your point. I mentioned time in my opening 
statement. It is the thing that I am most obsessed about. We 
can't get it back. That is irreplaceable.
    Senator King. How serious would it be if we had a yearlong 
continuing resolution instead of the passage of the budget?
    Secretary Kendall. It would be very serious. All the new 
starts that I talked about earlier, all the increased efforts 
that I talked about, all the work--we spent a year roughly 
working on what we called ``operational imperatives,'' which 
were the seven operational problems that we needed to solve 
given what the threat is doing, particularly China.
    Senator King. Would it compromise National Security?
    Secretary Kendall. Absolutely.
    Senator King. You mentioned earlier, and this is sort of in 
the same lane, in your testimony, in your opening statement 
about an advanced procurement or an advanced approval for some 
of the work that you are undertaking. Could you expand on that 
a bit?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator King, you are of an age similar 
to mine, I think, and when I make a reference to the movie 
Casablanca, you will know what I am talking about. But the 
movie starts----
    Senator King. I am shocked, shocked that there is----
    Secretary Kendall. There you go.
    Senator King.--going on.
    Secretary Kendall. The movie starts with a comment about 
refugees who come to Casablanca and wait and wait and wait. I 
am waiting right now. We spent the first year I was in office 
defining what we needed to do to stay ahead of the pacing 
challenge, ahead of China.
    I had to wait a year to get that into the budget, get the 
budget submitted. Now I am waiting another roughly a year for, 
under normal circumstances, that budget to be passed. If there 
is a year continuing resolution, I will wait yet another year.
    That is all time that we are giving away to someone who is 
racing to be ahead of us technologically and field the 
capability. We cannot afford that time.
    Senator King. You are proposing a technique----
    Secretary Kendall. What I am proposing is we wouldn't have 
to wait even the normal one, 1\1/2\ year. We will be able to do 
the low-cost initial stages of a program, do the system 
engineering, do the preliminary design work, do maybe a little 
risk reduction, maintain competition, make no long-term 
commitments, only go up to the point of preliminary design 
review, one of the earliest milestones.
    All that is relatively inexpensive, but it takes time. Then 
Congress would have full authority to decide whether we could 
proceed beyond that point or not. We would probably use 
reprogramming for this and Congress would have authority over 
that.
    There wouldn't be any real loss of the authorities that the 
Congress has over what we do, but we will gain a year and a 
half at least of time, lead time to getting things fielded.
    Senator King. We are headed for a markup of the National 
Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) in about a month. I hope that 
you will submit your suggestion so that we can consider it as 
part of that process.
    Secretary Kendall. It has been submitted, Senator. We came 
over from OMB [Office of Management and Budget]. It was 
approved by OMB.
    Senator King. You have it in our process. Thank you. 
General Brown, Senator Cramer and I submitted a letter some 
time ago to the uniformed leadership about the transition 
program in the military from Active Duty to veteran status. We 
got a response from the Secretary, but I view this as a 
uniformed issue.
    I want the senior leadership to take this issue very 
seriously. Transition for veterans is an incredibly important 
situation because we have learned that suicide, for example, is 
most likely in the first 2 or 3 years after separation.
    I hope I can have your commitment to pay particular 
attention to this process. We should be attending to be sure 
that our soon to be veterans have all the information and 
contacts that they need to reintegrate into the larger society.
    General Brown. You have my commitment, and, you know, I do 
take it very seriously because as you might imagine, I have a 
number of friends that have served, and at some point, I will 
also transition as a veteran.
    The aspect of how we do a very smooth handoff in 
collaboration with the Veterans Affairs. But it is not only how 
we transition into new careers, it is also how they emotionally 
transition into a new life out of uniform, and I think that is 
a key aspect that helps. If we focus on that, I think it will 
also help us prevent the suicides of our veterans.
    Senator King. Thank you. I will be submitting a question 
for the record in the classified session with regard to GPS 
[Global Positioning System] denied environment. I think that is 
something we really need to pay close attention to.
    The first step in any conflict is going to be an attempt to 
blind us, so I hope that--I have the same recommendation to the 
Navy that they will relearn how to use sextants. Space Guard, 
General Saltzman. Where does that stand? We have been 
discussing that on the Committee. What is your recommendation 
with regard to a Reserve Force or space guard to augment the 
capabilities of your organization?
    General Saltzman. My recommendation at this point is to 
make sure we have good, validated numbers that can help us 
assess each of the various courses of action that would allow 
me to retain the kinds of capabilities that currently live 
inside the Air National Guard. Again, that is my most important 
point.
    The expertise and the capabilities that are currently in 
the Air National Guard need to be harvested so we don't create 
an operational gap in any kind of transition. So, my 
recommendation is, make sure that the costing, the number of 
billets, all of that data is assessed and evaluated as we look 
at the course of actions.
    Senator King. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator King. Senator Cotton, 
please.
    Senator Cotton. Gentlemen, thank you for your appearance 
here and your decades of service to our Nation. Secretary 
Kendall, you have spoken some about accepting near term risk to 
fund the future force. I have gone back and looked historically 
at Air Force budgets for about 20 years. Are you aware that the 
Air Force has received $1.3 trillion less than the Army since 
2002?
    Secretary Kendall. I was not aware of that.
    Senator Cotton. Almost $1 trillion less than the Navy since 
2002.
    Secretary Kendall. No, I was not aware of that either, 
Senator.
    Senator Cotton. That is after accounting for the so-called 
pass through budget, which I believe causes many people to 
include Members of Congress to misperceive the Air Force's 
total budget. Could you share with us your thoughts about how 
that works?
    Secretary Kendall. The pass through budget is budget that 
is included in the submission under the Department of the Air 
Force, but it is money that doesn't actually go to the Air 
Force. It is about $40 billion.
    For people who are familiar with the budget and used to 
working with it understand that they realize what that is. For 
people who are not as familiar, it can be a little confusing in 
terms of what our total budget is.
    Senator Cotton. To be clear, this is pass through budget is 
not for Air Force classified programs, are not only for Air 
Force classified programs. It is simply your budget is used as 
the vehicle to fund these other programs.
    Secretary Kendall. That is correct. It goes to different 
Departments.
    Senator Cotton. That is why I say, I think some people 
misperceive the top line Air Force budget, and I worry that 
that might be contributing in part to why your service has had 
to accept this near-term risk now to fund the future force. I 
think we as a Congress should try to address this situation to 
make sure this misperception doesn't continue.
    Secretary Kendall. Senator, what I look at is the adequacy 
of our budget to allow us to meet our missions. I am 
comfortable with the money that we are asking for this year to 
be able to do those functions. There is risk always, and we 
have tried to balance that risk, taking into account the pacing 
challenge in particular and trying to respond to that.
    Senator Cotton. I want to return to both your opening 
statement and a question from Senator Reed about collaborative 
combat aircraft or CCAs. You called them an operational 
imperative. Can you discuss in a little more detail about how 
significant these CCAs are for both deterrence and your combat 
capability?
    Secretary Kendall. Our analysis shows that they are very 
cost effective. That they basically, by augmenting crewed 
aircraft with relatively inexpensive CCAs, you get a net combat 
capability, which is much more significant than if you tried to 
do it with all fully crewed aircraft.
    Our current anticipation is that the cost with CCA will be 
a fraction of the cost of, say, an F-35. The other advantages 
for overall affordability, it can make the force much more 
affordable. You get a lot more combat power for the same total 
dollars that you might be committing. It has big benefits in 
both ways.
    Senator Cotton. You said again today in your opening 
statement that the history of failure in warfare can almost 
always be summed up in two words, too late, a famous Douglas 
MacArthur quote, but I think you have said it enough that maybe 
one legacy of your tenure is that people think it is a Frank 
Kendall quote, and I think that is apt today as it was in 
MacArthur's time.
    What would be the significance if China were to field such 
unmanned aircraft along with its manned fleet before the United 
States? How could delays in CCA funding impact that 
possibility?
    Secretary Kendall. China is aggressively trying to field 
the capability to defeat our ability to project power. They 
have been working on it for at least 20 years. Their long range 
weapon systems targeting our airfields, our carriers, our 
satellites, et cetera, are a threat that we really have to cope 
with.
    But they are also modernizing their air capability. I 
think, Senator Cotton, you have seen the classified briefing 
that we have been providing. I can't go to great details here, 
but they have analyzed carefully how we fight and what we fight 
with, and they have been thoughtful about what they need to 
invest in to try to circumvent that or defeat it.
    That is the reason that I am so obsessed with getting on 
with the next generation capabilities. Holding onto things that 
are becoming obsolete over time just doesn't make any sense. We 
have got to get to the next generation.
    Senator Cotton. It is my understanding that this fleet of 
unmanned aircraft would be a mix of aircraft with both weapons, 
kinetic weapons, let's say missiles, bombs, that sort of thing, 
but also other sensors or electronic warfare systems. Is that 
correct, Mr. Secretary?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, that is correct. One way to think 
about it is that the pod or the weapon that might have been 
under the wing of a crewed aircraft is now flying in a separate 
aircraft and managed by the commander of that aircraft.
    The analysis that we have done shows that the adversary has 
to honor each of those aircraft as it is a full threat. That 
gives you a great advantage relative to the cost of having 
those things in the air.
    Senator Cotton. So, it creates a targeting problem for our 
adversary to have so many aircraft up in the air.
    Secretary Kendall. It both increases the targeting problem, 
but also gives them tactical dilemmas that he doesn't have to 
face right now. We can sacrifice one of these aircraft, put it 
well out in front, use it to draw fire and force the other side 
to expose itself and then be subject to engagement. So, they 
are--we call them attritable. They are not expendable, but we 
can afford to lose some of them operationally. There is nobody 
in them that we are going to lose. So, it changes our tactical 
options substantially.
    Senator Cotton. While therefore enhancing survivability of 
our manned aircraft.
    Secretary Kendall. Exactly right.
    Senator Cotton. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Cotton. Senator Hirono, 
please.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Joint Base 
Pearl Harbor-Hickam faces significant infrastructure challenges 
due to consistently deferred maintenance.
    For the Air Force specifically, Hickam Airfield is in 
urgent need of almost $1 billion over the next several years to 
repair the taxiways our planes take off and land on. Secretary 
Kendall, is this budget request adequately prioritizing 
maintaining Air Force facilities in the Pacific?
    Secretary Kendall. We are prioritizing our facilities in 
the Pacific, largely because of the threat that we face out 
there. One of the operational imperatives was resilient forward 
basing.
    So, the thing that we are prioritizing is improving the 
hardening and the equipage, if you will, of our bases so that 
we can make agile combat employment a reality. I believe that 
Hickam specifically falls under our Joint Base construct, which 
is operated by the Navy. We are working with the Navy to try to 
have our priorities funded.
    Senator Hirono. That is why I have a question for General 
Brown. Repairing the Hickam airfield will require support from 
the Navy and the Joint Base. Are there issues of prioritizing 
Air Force needs of the Joint Base?
    General Brown. Having served as the Commander of Pacific 
Air Forces and being stationary at the Joint Base, there has to 
be collaboration between the Air Force and the Navy.
    We have been able to highlight more recently our real 
concerns with the airfield pavement, and so, it has gotten the 
attention of the Navy and other parts of the Department, so I 
think we are on a good path to actually ensure that aspect 
because it is going to help us project combat power.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. The Agile Combat Employment 
Strategy requires the appropriate posture and supporting 
infrastructure at locations throughout the Pacific, like the 
islands of the Compact of Freely Associated States.
    That will be Palau, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Guam, and 
Northern Australia. Secretary Kendall, does the Air Force have 
the appropriate forward air basing it needs to execute agile 
combat employment?
    Secretary Kendall. We are working to increase that air 
basing in places that you mentioned, in Japan, wherever we are 
based in the Pacific. Our operational success out there depends 
on making the concept of agile combat employment a reality.
    That includes, and it is a priority for us in the budget 
because it is something we can do fairly quickly relative to 
other things that we might want to do that would take a 
development program, for example.
    We do have quite a bit of money in the budget focused on 
adding capability to support agile combat employment, including 
in the locations that you just mentioned, Senator.
    Senator Hirono. General Brown, what would be the impact to 
deterrence capabilities in the Pacific if dispersed 
infrastructure in the places that I am mentioning are not 
prioritized?
    General Brown. It decreases their options, and by having 
more and more options to be able to operate, that complicates 
the calculus for our adversaries. By having and being able to 
show different locations we can operate from, project combat 
power from, a credible combat force that adds to deterrence. 
Having that ability is important.
    Senator Hirono. I am sure both of you acknowledge the 
importance of the compacts of free association that we are 
currently concluding.
    I just want the two of you to be aware that not only should 
we be funding the appropriate amounts to the compact nations 
themselves, but when their citizens come to our country and 
they are living in states throughout the United States, that 
they are able to access the social service programs that they 
should be entitled to, and I would like those kinds of 
provisions to be included in the compact.
    I am mentioning this to you because the compacts involve 
not just the DOD [Department of Defense], but Interior, as well 
as State. General Saltzman, the Department of Defense is 
increasingly turning to space-based systems for its ballistic 
cruise and hypersonic missile defense sensing needs. This is of 
particular interest to Hawaii.
    So, what are you doing to ensure that these programs remain 
on time and on budget? Also, these space systems come with 
their own unique risks. How is the Space Force ensuring these 
capabilities are resilient in the face of disruption, whether 
through a cyber or kinetic attack?
    General Saltzman. Yes, Senator, I think you will see that 
this particular budget submission addresses those concerns. 
First, the missile warning, missile tracking layer that we are 
pivoting to is a proliferated constellation, which means it is 
more resilient by design as there are more satellites 
performing the mission.
    Because they are in lower Earth orbit, they are actually 
more high fidelity, so it is better tracking for some of the 
threats that we are seeing come out of our pacing challenge. 
Also, we are investing heavily in the cyber defense 
capabilities of the networks that are required to maintain and 
operate those systems as well. So, this budget definitely 
addresses your concerns.
    Senator Hirono. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Hirono. Senator Rounds, 
please.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, first 
of all, thank you all to you and to your families for your 
service to our country. I would also like to thank General 
Brown and Secretary Kendall for your most recent visit to 
Ellsworth Air Force Base.
    Ellsworth is very excited to be the first bed down for the 
B-21 training squadron and the first operational squadron in 
the entire community. In fact, the entire State of South Dakota 
is very excited to see that coming their way.
    I would also like to take this opportunity to recognize the 
Tigers of the 37th Bomb Squadron in their recent win of the 
STRATCOM's coveted Omaha Trophy. Shows that they are the best 
of the best and we are proud of them.
    General Brown and General Saltzman, there have been efforts 
most recently regarding an attempt to utilize a part of the 
electromagnetic spectrum for purposes other than DOD purposes, 
and specifically the 3.1 to 3.45 gigahertz band or the S-band 
of the spectrum.
    I would like for the record, if you could confirm for us 
that your forces do utilize that portion of the spectrum and 
that, at this unclassified level, could you share with us just 
how significant that part of the spectrum is to your forces 
regarding radar communications and so forth? General Brown.
    General Brown. Senator Rounds, we do use that part of the 
spectrum for our operational capabilities, and there is a 
number of weapon systems that operate within that band. I will 
just give you one example, our C-130 station keeping.
    If that band was actually moved and we had to redesign, it 
would cost roughly about $2 billion just for that one platform. 
We have a number of platforms that operate within the S-band, 
so it is critical that we understand the impact on our 
security, not only for us to be able to operate, but also if we 
had to redesign systems, if we lost access to that part of the 
electromagnetic spectrum.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, General. General Saltzman.
    General Saltzman. That particular band is a radar band that 
allows us to look into deep space. We currently have a 
developmental radar that is going to significantly enhance our 
ability to do space domain awareness.
    If we were not able to use that piece of spectrum, not only 
would we lose the time that we have already invested in, as 
much as several hundred million dollars that we have already 
put into development, but it would also mean that we have to 
use a different portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, which 
isn't as capable in determining and discriminating capabilities 
in deep space.
    Senator Rounds. Physics still count, don't they?
    General Saltzman. They do, sir.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you. General Brown, multiple 
independent studies, as well as at least one by the Air Force, 
indicate the numbers of bombers needed to meet requirements 
greatly exceed the minimum number currently being planned for.
    In your professional military judgment, what is the 
approximate number of bombers needed to maintain a credible 
deterrent against two near-peer competitors?
    General Brown. Senator, the couple of things I think about 
is not only the number but also the capability of the bombers. 
The two bombers that we are--right now, the three bomber fleet, 
going to two bomber fleet, the B-21, as you highlighted that 
will start out at Ellsworth, but also as we upgrade the B-52, 
and so there will be 100 B-21s and 75 B-52s.
    We will continue to do analysis. I mean, that is what we--
the analysis we have right now, based on the threat. We will 
continue to pay attention to the threat, and that will also 
influence if we have to go beyond those numbers from a bomber 
capacity standpoint.
    Senator Rounds. It sounds like a lot of bombers until you 
realize that not all of them are capable at all times. They are 
all undergoing maintenance at one point or another. What 
percentage of the bombers would you normally expect to be 
operational at that point?
    General Brown. Ideally, when we look at our day-to-day 
operations, not only for our bombers, but really all of our 
fleet, an 80 percent aircraft availability because you are 
going to have some aircraft down for maintenance, down for 
depot type operations. That is the goal of what we want to get 
to or above, not only for our bombers, but really across all of 
our platforms.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. General Saltzman, as you 
know, I have concerns about the DOD's approach to providing 
space based, ground moving target indication capabilities to 
tactical DOD users following the divestment of the JSTARS 
platform.
    Can you share with me how you are making sure that the JROC 
validated requirements are captured in the acquisitions process 
of a platform whose acquisition is executed by the intelligence 
community? Will the DOD maintain milestone authority?
    General Saltzman. Currently milestone decision authority, 
obviously that is acquisitions, and it will be a collaborative 
effort with the IC [Intelligence Community]. But Mr. LaPlante 
in USD A&S [Acquisition and Sustainment] does have that 
milestone decision authority, or portions of it.
    From my vantage point, in terms of requirements and meeting 
those requirements, the Space Force is responsible for writing 
the capabilities development document, which documents those 
high-level requirements to make sure that the JROC validated 
requirements are satisfied in the program.
    Then perhaps most importantly is the concept of employment. 
U.S. Space Force has responsibility to right that concept of 
employment to make sure that operationally it is a DOD mission 
that meets the warfighter requirements regardless of who 
develops the sensor.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, and Secretary Kendall, just one 
very quick comment. I hope that in the future, with the help of 
this Committee, when asked what keeps you up at night, I hope 
there will be a point here shortly where you can respond the 
same way that Secretary of Defense Mattis did, and said, ``it 
is not things that keep me up at night. I keep other people up 
at night.'' I think that is our goal. Thank you.
    Secretary Kendall. I share that with you, Senator.
    Senator Rounds. Thank you, sir. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Stand Rounds. Senator Ernst, 
please.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, 
gentlemen, for your testimony and your service to our great 
nation. I want to continue the discussion about our bomber 
force and the future of it.
    In a conflict with China, Air Force bombers will need to go 
after hundreds of targets over the vast distances of the 
Pacific. Yet today's Air Force is very much centered on 
fighters, with about 15 fighters for every one of our bombers.
    If you look back to the 1960's, the Air Force had to 
deliver long range strikes against the Soviets, and the make-up 
of the Air Force at that time was about three fighters to every 
bomber. So, we just need to make sure that the mix is 
appropriate for today's fight. Again, if we are looking at a 
fight with China, we want to make sure that we are 
appropriately balanced.
    General Brown, we will start with you. Tell us a little bit 
more about the critical role of the bomber in projecting power, 
especially as we are looking toward the east and a potential 
fight with China.
    General Brown. One of the key areas when you think about 
our bomber fleet, is that to be able to do--come from long 
distances away from where the airfields that you would take off 
from, would be under attack by and large.
    The overall capacity of our bombers to do a number of 
missions, to be able to carry how long they will be able to 
stay airborne. So, it provides that capability to carry a 
number of long range standoff weapons in support of operations.
    That is the viability of the bomber, and it is the 
capability that provides to be able to help us generate combat 
power.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, very important. Thank you, sir. To the 
extent you can speak to it, how would the B-21 modular design 
allow the bomber to take on a wider range of missions, whether 
it is a strike, mission, ISR, or even electronic warfare?
    General Brown. I think one of the areas as we start going 
down the path of digital engineering and looking at how we do 
mission systems, many things are more software based today than 
they were back in history.
    So that ability to be able to rapidly reprogram vis-a-vis 
the threat, to bring in additional capability from a weapon 
standpoint as well, that is a part of the modular aspect and 
how we are able to work the aspects of the engineering to bring 
in capability much faster than we have in the past.
    Senator Ernst. Yes, exactly. I am intrigued by modular 
designs in this platform and many others as well. Secretary 
Kendall, with our major increases in the Air Force budget, then 
would increasing the B-21 buy require divesting legacy 
aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator, I share your concern about the 
future size and structure of the Air Force. I am not sure that 
the future Air Force will look all that much like the one we 
have today.
    One of the things that may change, this shift in the 
balance that you talked about between shorter range tactical 
air capabilities and longer range strike capabilities the 
bombers provide. Within whatever constraint we have, we will 
probably end up, I think, at some point talking about 
adjustments to what the current ratio is.
    We don't have many options to make those changes right now. 
We are preserving the bomber fleet pretty much as much as we 
can. We are fortunate that the B-52 was so robustly designed 
that we can keep it pretty much forever. So, we are using it as 
a bus, essentially, and we keep upgrading it, putting new 
engines on it, new radar.
    The B-1 continues to service. It has got a lot of capacity. 
B-2s have been harder to maintain. B-21 is our option in the 
near-term to bring in new capability, and we are just starting 
to get it into production. Current number is 100. I don't know 
what it will end up being. It may be larger than that. I would 
not be surprised by that.
    Senator Ernst. Secretary, thank you for that. Is there a 
way that the Air Force could control unit costs if it ramps up 
production of the B-21?
    Secretary Kendall. Cost and quantities are always 
connected, and you do reduce cost by increasing the production 
rate, definitely.
    Senator Ernst. Okay.
    Secretary Kendall. The B-21 is being built on a line that 
was built for the development program and just be continued to 
use for production at a relatively modest rate. I think if we 
were going to significantly increase our production, we have to 
go relook at how we retool for manufacturing B-21. But that is 
not a near-term decision.
    Senator Ernst. Wow. Well, I appreciate it, gentlemen. My 
grandfather built bombers in Middle America during World War 
II. It is amazing that here we are all those years later, and 
yet we are still heavily reliant upon its capabilities. But 
thank you all very much for being here today. Thank you for 
your service.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Ernst. Senator Cramer, 
please.
    Senator Cramer. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
all of you for your service and for being with us today. Since 
bombers are the topic of the moment, General Brown, I want to 
talk a little bit about not so much bombers, but disbursement 
of bombers and taking advantage of some opportunities, 
particularly as it relates to BASE, or bomber agile combat 
employment, and the distribution of the nuclear capabilities.
    As you know, of course, there used to be six big bases in 
the northern tier between Michigan and Montana. Today, there 
are two and one of them being Minot, the other one being Grand 
Forks in North Dakota.
    The Grand Forks course was a bomber base. It had a 300-
foot-wide runway. It has been reduced to 150-foot runway, based 
on the movement of the lights. It is due for improvement in 
2025, and I am just wondering if you would be open to looking 
carefully at perhaps widening that runway for base type of use 
in the future.
    Again, keeping in mind that in 2025, it is due for some 
improvements anyway. Because we are down to the last two in 
that tier.
    General Brown. Senator, we can definitely look at that. 
Particularly as you said that they are already going to be 
doing some modifications. Any time you are doing, it is 
probably a good time to take a look at and make sure we do not 
miss any options to provide us opportunities and capabilities 
in the future.
    Senator Cramer. Well, I always like it when my state's 
interests match up with common sense and the military. So, all 
I can ask is you take a good look at it. Thank you. General, I 
also want to talk to you about, you and I a couple of years ago 
talked about the deliveries of the MH-139A helicopter.
    Secretary Kendall happened to be in Minot around Christmas 
time, and so he saw those drafty old, Vietnam era helicopters 
that our airmen, and particularly the security forces, have to 
use in Minot, and we couldn't go for a ride that day because of 
weather. Not uncommon in Minot.
    The delay at that time, couple of years ago, the delay in 
delivery was due to FAA certification, as you no doubt recall 
and know. That is now done, but we see that there may be a 
delay again, and I am just wondering if you have some sort of 
an update on the MH-139As and when we might expect to see them?
    General Brown. Yes, we just finished up the production 
development phase and then in fiscal year 2024, we expected 
four of the MH-139s. They start their initial operational 
testing as well, so we will be beyond that FAA certification 
and then that will help us start to the path of a follow-on 
procurement to start fielding the aircraft.
    Senator Cramer. Well, is four enough? I mean, is there a 
way to escalate? Is there any chance we can accelerate that? I 
would even question whether the Hueys, the old ones, are 
mission capable at this point.
    General Brown. We will always take a look to see if there 
are ways to accelerate, you know, bringing on a capability and 
at the same time balance the rest as we bring that capability 
on to the force.
    Senator Cramer. I understand. Maybe one of the things that 
could help and inspire you would be a ride in February. But 
anyway, we will work on that another time. Thank you very much. 
Thank you, all three of you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield 
back.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Cramer. Senator 
Tuberville, please.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thanks for 
being here today, gentlemen, and your service. General 
Saltzman, U.S. policy is to have at least two space launch 
vehicles to launch DOD and NRO [National Reconnaissance Office] 
satellites. Space has changed a lot in 20 years. That law was 
written in 2004.
    Meanwhile, the demand for launch vehicles, commercial, 
civil, and defense, has skyrocketed. Given the dramatic changes 
that have occurred in space, the increase in demand and the 
need for greater resiliency, redundancy, and responsiveness, 
what would be your best military advice for policymakers when 
it comes to space launch vehicles? Would you like to see at 
least three?
    General Saltzman. Well, assured access to space is a 
critical capability that we have. The way I would characterize 
it is for me to say that we have assured access to space, I 
need at least two providers capable of putting satellites on 
orbit.
    But it is to the advantage of the U.S. Government, it is to 
the advantage of the U.S. Space Force to have as many viable 
launch providers as possible. It creates a level of agility. It 
creates a level of resiliency that is important, which is why 
our NNSL, National Security space launch phase three contract 
that we have out for comments, is looking at two lanes.
    One that maximizes the number of emerging launch providers 
to participate, while preserving that assured access that are 
our most highly risk averse mission sets. I think we have 
struck that balance appropriately.
    Senator Tuberville. Thank you. Secretary Kendall, the U.S. 
Air Force wants its next generation air refueler tanker KC-Z to 
reach additional operational capabilities by 2040. Clearly, 
that creates a gap in critical wartime capability. Where are we 
on the KC-46 Pegasus procurement to ensure we have full 
capabilities?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator, we have fundamentally changed 
our tanker acquisition strategy, where we need to move to a 
next generation taking capability which is resilient enough to 
survive against a pacing challenge.
    So basically, the current plan is to go from the KC-46 into 
what we call the Next Generation Aerial Refueling System, or 
NGAS, which will be a new design, designed to be resilient 
enough to survive in the environment that we anticipate. We 
want to get to that design as quickly as we can.
    So, there will be some gap between the currently 
contractual options that we have for KC-46, to when we can get 
the NGAS system into production. We would like to make that gap 
as small as possible. So, what we are requesting in this budget 
is the funding to start down the road toward this program and 
do the analysis of alternatives to define that design and its 
requirements.
    But we need to get on with this as quickly as we can. It is 
one of the areas in which time is very important to us. It 
won't be 2040. It is going to be much sooner than that. But we 
don't know--until we define the design and move it forward, we 
don't know exactly what that date will be. I am shooting for 
the early 2030's.
    Senator Tuberville. General Brown, your thoughts on that?
    General Brown. As the Secretary described it, you know, our 
tankers are very important to be able to generate that combat 
power. By changing the strategy to move things further left and 
get to next generation air refueling system is a way to move a 
bit faster to--that capability is going to be a bit more 
survival and to be able to create greater combat power.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes, especially for the Indo-Pacific. I 
mean, it is going to be a greater need, obviously. Secretary 
Kendall, it wouldn't be a hearing if I hadn't asked you about 
Space Command.
    You and I have talked about this quite a bit. Are we 
getting closer? I would hate that this--we are on the verge in 
our lifetime of a dangerous world.
    We might be fighting this thing from space if we don't 
watch it, and we want to make sure that we are doing the right 
things. I hope this thing doesn't get political. It looks like 
it is. We have been waiting for 2 years for a decision.
    Give me your thoughts on what is going on with the Space 
Command. General Dickson said in his last hearing here that he 
needed a decision. So, what are your thoughts?
    Secretary Kendall. I don't have anything new to report 
today, Senator. I am really hopeful that we will be able to get 
a decision out as soon as possible, but I don't have any new 
information to provide.
    Senator Tuberville. None whatsoever? Are we even thinking 
about it or was this--we just--it just goes in and out? I mean, 
it is----
    Secretary Kendall. I just don't have anything more to 
provide.
    Senator Tuberville. But do you do you think it is important 
for us to have a permanent base?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes.
    Senator Tuberville. Yes. I think we all do. Nebraska, who 
is on the list, number two, and then San Antonio, number three, 
I think we all are kind of sitting around waiting to see what 
is going to happen.
    But we sure would like to get this decision made and moved 
on down the road and have the opportunity to build on it 
instead of having guesswork. Thank you. Thank you very much.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Tuberville. Senator 
Warren, please.
    Senator Warren. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and thank you to 
our witnesses for your service. We often talk about the role of 
bombers and fighter jets in National Security, but our greatest 
strength as a Nation is our people.
    The Senate approves thousands of military promotions every 
year, and typically this vote is a formality. But the Senator 
from Alabama has weaponized a policy disagreement about 
abortion to politicize the military and place holds on all, all 
military nominations.
    This brings the careers of nearly 200 officers, people who 
have served their country for decades, to a screeching halt. 
General Brown, can you explain what steps does a colonel or a 
brigadier General have to go through before the president sends 
a promotion over to the Senate for approval?
    General Brown. Well, each one of those offers goes through 
a thorough review that actually starts initially in the 
Department of the Air Force. We ensure there is no adverse 
information.
    That same process gets repeated through the Joint Staff, 
through the Office of Secretary of Defense, over at the White 
House, before that member's record comes and is delivered to 
the Senate for promotion. It takes several months before it 
actually gets to here to the Senate.
    Senator Warren. Okay. So, you are not just sending these 
promotions over on a whim--it looked like a good idea. I take 
it that these individuals are being recommended for higher rank 
because they are our military's best, and they have proven 
themselves to the highest degree. Is that fair?
    General Brown. It does. It also shows that they have future 
potential.
    Senator Warren. Future potential as well. Now, recruitment 
has been a challenge for most of the military services, but 
retention levels have stayed quite high. The Air Force 
currently retains about 90 percent of its people at critical 
decision points.
    That means that they complete a commitment, and the vast 
majority are choosing to re-enlist and stay with the Air Force. 
That is really good news. Secretary Kendall, does it worry you 
that if our men and women in uniform see that their promotions 
can get held up indefinitely because one Senator has an issue 
with one DOD policy, that that might hurt your ability to 
retain the best and the most qualified people in the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator Warren, it does have an impact, 
definitely. I also want to mention it has an impact on 
families, too. We generally rotate people through the summer 
months and people need to plan for that.
    They have to plan to get their children to schools, where 
they are going to be established and in their new homes. So, 
there is a very personal toll this takes as well. One of the 
things that motivates our people in terms of retention or not 
is how they feel that their families are being treated.
    Things like childcare and education and health care are all 
very important factors. We ask our military families to move 
multiple times during their career. It is something that they 
accept. But when they are planning for that, and it is 
disrupted, it has very negative impact and it definitely 
impacts on retention as well.
    Senator Warren. Do you think these families want to be made 
a political football?
    Secretary Kendall. I know that they do not.
    Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, what is the National 
Security impact of these holds for the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. The biggest impact is that people who 
should be coming into leadership roles don't arrive on time. 
So, someone who is already there has to step up, either 
someone--Generally people, if they are going to retire, they 
are still going to retire. So, a junior person will step up and 
be acting for a period of time.
    Those people are limited in what they can do. They 
generally are not going to make any major initiatives or make 
any major changes because they know they are not going to be 
there very long. They expect that they will be replaced very 
shortly.
    So, they will keep the trains running, but they are not 
going to move the organization forward as much as they might be 
otherwise.
    Senator Warren. Well, the Senator from Alabama is holding 
up promotions across all of the services. But I took a look at 
the Air Force nominees in particular, and one thing that was 
really striking to me is that the vast majority of them studied 
at the Air War College in Alabama.
    The State of Alabama has invested a lot in these leaders 
and the Senator from Alabama doesn't seem to care about that. 
So, Secretary Kendall, unlike many of the other services, the 
Space Force is meeting its recruiting goals.
    The Space Force is obviously still very young. These are 
defining years for your service. What are the readiness impacts 
of these holds on Space Force?
    Secretary Kendall. I am not aware of any General officers 
that are being held for the Space Force at this time. But the 
same generic impact would happen there as would happen on the 
Air Force. The Space Force is meeting its recruiting goals 
because it is an exciting new opportunity for people, and it is 
relatively small, and it is relatively modest numbers that it 
is seeking.
    Senator Warren. Well, thank you very much. You know, 
holding the promotions of every single senior military nominee 
is not democracy, it is extortion, and this kind of extortion 
has serious consequences for our national defense.
    This actively hurts our ability to respond quickly to 
threats around the world. As you point out, Secretary Kendall, 
this is really painful for military families who have already 
been called on to give so much. We need to lift these holds. 
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Warren. Senator Budd, 
please.
    Senator Budd. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Again, thank you all 
for being here, for those behind you and those you represent as 
well. Considering the Senator from Massachusetts's remarks, 
Secretary Austin can solve this with a single stroke of the 
pen.
    I was able to make that several weeks ago very clear. 
Change the policy, solve the problem. Secretary Kendall, based 
on the President's Budget, the Air Force is requesting $2.9 
billion, or about $317 million more than last year to purchase 
24 F-15EXs, and that is to replace the remaining C and D model 
F-15s. Does that sound about right? Thank you----
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, sir. It is replacing another 
incremental of F-15Cs.
    Senator Budd. Yes, sir. Thanks. I think the Air Force 
budget makes it very clear, so, again, I appreciate you 
clarifying that. What is not clear to me is the Air Force's 
plan for the F-15E, Echo, fleet, including the squadrons at 
Seymour Johnson Air Force Base in North Carolina.
    I know Ranking Member Wicker was able to spend time there 
during his service, though it is a special place for many of 
us. The Air Force just completed major upgrades to the F-15E 
fleet, including replacing the outdated radars.
    This investment by Congress and the Air Force drastically 
improves the aircraft's air to air, and air to ground targeting 
capabilities. Does that sound about right?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, sir.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. The Air Force is now in the 
process of adding the Eagle Passive Active Warning and 
Survivability System, or E-PAWSS, to these aircraft, which will 
offer improved defensive situational awareness and electronic 
attack capability. Correct?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, Senator.
    Senator Budd. So now, reading from page 261, this is volume 
two of the aircraft--excuse me, the Air Force's Aircraft 
Procurement Justification book, which states that F-15 E-PAWSS 
procurement plans have been applied to the Air Force F-15E 
divestment plan and will result in 99 E-PAWSS modified 
aircraft.
    Now, one can read this to mean, and it has been reported 
that the Air Force plans to shrink the size of the F-15E fleet 
from 218 aircraft to just 99 aircraft by fiscal year 2028. Is 
that a correct interpretation of the Air Force divestment plan 
for the F-15E?
    Secretary Kendall. I would have to check to confirm that, 
Senator, but I have no reason to believe it is not correct.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. I would ask you to check. Mr. 
Secretary, will you commit, after you check, to providing my 
staff a detailed briefing on the Air Force long term plan for 
the F-15E within the next 2 weeks?
    Secretary Kendall. I can promise to give you that. I can't 
assure you that it will be within 2 weeks. But I will do my 
best to do that.
    Senator Budd. As soon as able, thank you. So, in addition 
to the F-15E divestment, you want to divest 32 F-22s Block 20 
aircraft, all of the U-2s, all MQ-9 Reapers, all RQ-4 Global 
Hawks of the Block 40 aircraft, and F-16 modernization would be 
cut. The F-15EX procurement objective was 144 aircraft, but now 
it is just 104 aircraft. Sound right?
    Secretary Kendall. Some of that is correct. I am not sure 
about some other parts. We are not divesting all the MQ-9s, for 
example.
    Senator Budd. Okay.
    Secretary Kendall. I believe your numbers on the EX were 
correct.
    Senator Budd. If you would check on those numbers, if you 
would, please. What is going to replace all these fighter 
aircraft in the ISR platforms? The question really is on what 
schedule?
    Secretary Kendall. Over the FYDP, we do come down about 14 
percent in total number of fighters. The problem we have is 
that the oldest fourth generation fighters are just not capable 
against the threat. When they go up against fifth generation 
aircraft, they do not do well at all. We have got a lot of 
exercises that demonstrate that to us.
    The F-15E, which you are concerned about, we are going to 
be keeping that for some time. As you mentioned, there is some 
upgrades still underway. We are not as with the numbers I think 
that you indicated.
    As far as you mentioned, Seymour Johnson, I am not aware of 
any near-term plans to change anything at Seymour Johnson, but 
we can give you more details on that when I give you the 
details that you asked for.
    Senator Budd. The question, please. fiscal year 2028, if 
you would. Thank you.
    Secretary Kendall. I will let you know. Overall, we are 
trying to move toward a next generation set of capabilities. So 
F-35, NGAD [Next Generation Air Dominance] to replace the F-
22s, and F-15EX, and F-16s, more modern F-16s are basically 
going to be the fighter fleet of the future. We are going to 
add to that the CCAs that we talked about earlier in the 
testimony.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. So, I understand the divesting to 
invest concept, but I am alarmed at the risk and the timing. 
Roughly you have about 5,100 aircraft and it is going to shrink 
to about 40--a little over 4,400 by 2028.
    Most of those reductions are fighters. So, my concern is 
that this represents an invitation to China to be even more 
aggressive. Any comments on that or concerns?
    Secretary Kendall. We look at total combat capability of 
the fleet and we are increasing that as we buy fifth generation 
aircraft.
    Senator Budd. Thank you. I yield.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you very much, Senator Budd. Senator 
Rosen, please.
    Senator Rosen. Well, thank you, Chairman Reed, and thank 
you for all of you for being here, for your service to the 
Nation, and for everyone that works with you. I want to build 
on what Senator Warren was talking about a little bit, about 
our military families, about how much they sacrifice, how much 
they do to really keep us safe and protect us, and it is 
important that we take care of them, too.
    Nellis Air Force Base in Southern Nevada, there is a 
housing shortage. General Brown, I have raised this before in 
Committee several time. Our wonderful junior enlisted airmen 
and airwomen stationed in Nevada's Nellis Air Force Base, their 
average only 12 months in the dormitories, being forced to move 
off base into very expensive private housing in the community 
due to these on-base housing shortage.
    In Nellis, the dormitory master plan reflects a shortage of 
about 500 rooms. The base has identified a need for two more 
dormitories. I am really disappointed that neither a new 
dormitory is in the Air Force's fiscal year 2024 budget, or in 
the Future Years Defense Program, or even on your unfunded 
priorities list.
    General Brown, how are you going to help our youngest 
service men and women here at Nellis, and of course at other 
places around the country, provide more support for them to do 
their jobs and serve our country?
    General Brown. Senator, as you highlighted, it is very 
important. We need to take care of our--most importantly, our 
junior airmen, because that actually impacts our retention. We 
do have two dorm projects that were going through the initial 
stages for Nellis, in addition to money we are putting into 
renovating the many of the dorms that already exist.
    Having been in Nellis several times, most recently in 
January, and the conversation on not only the dorm capacity but 
how we work as well with the community to find affordable 
housing. One of the areas that I would also highlight as we 
focused on not only affordable housing, but the difference in 
how we raised the basic allowance for housing for a junior 
airmen.
    It was raised by about 21 percent. This is something we are 
paying close attention to, not only at Nellis, but I would say 
around the Air Force as we are seeing areas from housing 
standpoint, housing prices have gone up. But really working 
closely with the communities to try to find opportunities, 
particularly when we have a bit of a deficit in our dorms at 
specific locations.
    But we are going to continue to work to put more energy 
into the dorms at Nellis to do those renovations, but also the 
couple of dorm projects that I mentioned.
    Senator Rosen. I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you 
in responding to our letters, for improving the speed and 
access for the base housing allowance when servicemen, airmen 
do transition to off base housing.
    Getting that money quickly, faster. They are paid the least 
among everyone and they are often the youngest, so it is very 
challenging. So, I appreciate the cooperation and attention you 
have been paying to that. Then I want to move on to some of our 
military families that actually have children.
    They need childcare. It is really important. Missions go 24 
hours a day, 7 days a week, right. In the military, doesn't 
rest. Secretary Kendall, our airmen stationed at Creech Air 
Force Base just outside Las Vegas, now they do the MQ-9 Reaper 
program, amongst other things. They struggle to find adequate 
childcare because their shifts are often outside the normal 
business hours due to the drone programs and other things they 
do.
    It is 24-hour support, and the DOD's new in-home childcare 
fee assistance pilot program, it was launched to help provide 
in-home childcare solutions for our servicemembers, especially 
in regions with high demand. I am happy to see that you 
extended this pilot program to Las Vegas. However, I am 
understanding now that the program has a lot of red tape, that 
it is really difficult requirements, and essentially is 
rendering in-home childcare reimbursement unavailable to 
Nevada's military families.
    Secretary, can you commit to me to work to make this 
program better for Nevada families? They have to show up 24 
hours a day, 7 days a week to complete the mission. We have to 
be there for their families. What can we do?
    General Brown. Senator, I couldn't agree with you more. I 
have made that commitment. I have driven from Nellis off to 
Creech, so I know what those people have to do, and I can 
really appreciate the childcare difficulties associated with 
having to provide childcare near your home and then make that 
commitment to go back and forth.
    We have the pilot program, as you mentioned. I was not 
aware of the red tape issues until you highlighted them. But we 
will take a look at that and see if we can do something to make 
it much more accessible to people.
    Childcare is the problem that I hear most about from our 
families. There is a shortage of childcare staff around the 
country. We are trying to address that with a number of 
initiatives to improve our paying compensation, provide, in the 
case of the Air Force, free childcare for staff members, first 
child, and then deductions for the rest.
    We are working hard to have more in-home childcare 
providers to increase the availability of childcare. We are 
doing a number of things in that area. I will take a specific 
look at the problem you mentioned about the pilot program and 
see if we can reduce the red tape.
    Senator Rosen. Perfect, thank you. We will look forward to 
following up. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I yield.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Rosen. Senator Schmitt, 
please.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I would like to, 
from the outset here, ask unanimous consent to submit for the 
record this Washington Post investigative story entitled, 
Pentagon Buries Evidence of $125 Billion in Bureaucratic Waste 
from 2016.
    Chairman Reed. Without objection.
    [The information referred to follows:]
   [GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]
    
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary 
Kendall, I would want to ask you about this, because you play a 
starring role in this article, as it turns out. There was a 
report that the Pentagon actually commissioned in the 
business--or the Defense Business Board, as you are aware, as 
you are nodding here, identified over $125 billion worth of 
bureaucratic waste.
    You were instrumental in burying that report, and I want to 
ask you about this, but before I do, and you deserve an 
opportunity to explain yourself here, but fundamentally, in 
this report or the reporting on the report that was buried, DOD 
employed--employs more than 1 million people in back-office 
positions, and we have 1.3 million troops on Active Duty.
    That is almost a 1 to 1 ratio. The report also laid out 
that there was a clear path to saving over $125 billion in the 
next 5 years by trimming that bureaucracy. The greatest 
contributors to the savings are early retirements and reducing 
services from contractors.
    But that $125 billion, whether it is $125 billion or some 
factor below that is a startling number, and just to put that 
in context, that amounts to 50 Army brigades, ten naval carrier 
strike group deployments, or 83 F-35 fighter wings for a full 5 
years.
    I want to ask you, what was your role in this? Is there 
anything to be learned from this report that never saw the 
light of day?
    Secretary Kendall. The report definitely saw the light of 
day. It was published, and nobody tried to suppress it, 
Senator. So, that is completely incorrect.
    Senator Schmitt. Well, there are some emails from you, 
actually, that you were very aggressive in making sure that 
this wasn't given any credibility.
    Secretary Kendall. It has no credibility.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay.
    Secretary Kendall. I am very familiar with that report. It 
was a very amateurish effort. It essentially made analogies 
between the Government and the Department of Defense, and 
companies that were selected in the commercial role, which had 
no real valid comparison.
    Then it said that because these companies could save x 
percent of their cost, therefore, the Department of Defense 
must be able to save the same percentage. It was nonsense.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. When you were in that procurement 
role--you are now Secretary of the Air Force. I want to ask 
you, let's just say you are right. Let's say that it has no 
validity, which I don't believe.
    Whether it is 100 percent or 20, whatever that number is, 
what are you doing right now as the Secretary to cut out waste? 
Are you doing anything? If you identified anything, have you 
done anything?
    Secretary Kendall. We have set a number of management 
initiatives in place to try to introduce well-defined metrics 
for each part of the Air Force, each part of the enterprise--
all the different functional pieces.
    Senator Schmitt. Have you realized any savings from this? 
Have you realized any savings from this?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, we have.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. I would like to followup then to 
find out exactly what that is.
    Secretary Kendall. Certainly.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay, and the reason why I am asking is we 
are clearly, whether you want to call it a pacing challenge or 
a chief adversary with China, they are not messing around.
    I just don't think there is--we have to have a sense of 
urgency, I think, in making sure that every dollar the 
taxpayers are putting forward, and I am somebody that is going 
to be advocating for an aggressive posture here, that we are 
not letting any of that go to waste.
    Sort of following up on that, in March, I sent a letter to 
Secretary Austin asking him some fairly simple questions about 
civilian workforce. There are recruitment issues. There is 
readiness challenges.
    I was asking him specifically how many DEI [Diversity, 
Equity, and Inclusion] related positions exist in the 
Department of Defense. I want to ask you, how many DEI 
positions exist under your purview?
    Secretary Kendall. I would have to get you that for the 
record.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Will you be responsive? Secretary 
Austin has not been responsive, so I want to just find out what 
we are dealing with here, the number of jobs. I also want to 
ask you, how many mandatory DEI training sessions were 
conducted last year?
    Secretary Kendall. I would have to get that for the record 
also. Our DEI training sessions are prescribed by law. I think 
they are in the NDAA from 2019, if I remember. They are 
prescribed certain numbers of hours in different aspects of our 
training.

    [The information referred to follows:]

    Secretary Kendall.

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                                                                                                                                            PROGRAM ANALYST
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                                                                                                                                             PRGRAM ANALYST
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                                                                                                                                             PRGRAM ANALYST
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                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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                                                                                                                                          AND DIVERSITY
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                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                              AMC                    87 AIR BASE WING      $115,118       GS13              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                    GLOBAL STRKE                    377 AIR BASE WING      $144,941       GS14            DIVERSITY AND AFFIRMATIVE
                                                                                                                                                    EMPLOYMENT SPECIALIST
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                                                                                                                                                MANAGER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL OS00$208,767        SES    DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF DIVERSITY AND
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                                                                                                                        INSTRUCTOR (DIVERSITY PROGRAMS)
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    Senator Schmitt. Okay. We would like to get those materials 
actually too. We have had a hard time actually getting those 
materials.
    Secretary Kendall. We can get that for you.
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. Thank you, and then Secretary 
Kendall and General Brown, last, I do want to ask, I saw today 
actually it was reported that the Air Force announced that the 
Davis-Monthan (DM) Air Force Base will be fielding a new 
special operation wing that will offset the impact of the loss 
of the A-10 mission there.
    I know you mentioned the A-10 in your introductory 
comments, Mr. Secretary. You are aware that the 442d fighter 
wing out of Whiteman Air Force Base in Missouri houses some of 
the best and most experienced fighter pilots and maintainers in 
the world, yet we and they have yet to learn what their follow-
on mission will be once the A-10 is divested.
    Given the ongoing pilot shortage and recruitment challenges 
we have, it is important to ensure that the 442d get a follow-
on mission. Secretary Kendall, do you agree it makes sense to 
leverage those existing talents, the fighter aircraft 
experience, the fighter pilots, the maintainers at the unit, 
the 442d, as you divest from the A-10?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator, our approach to divesting the 
A-10 is to try to replace fighter mission--another fighter 
mission, if possible. If not, then a flying mission, and if we 
can't do that, there are a number of other missions that are 
very important to the Department.
    We have talked about electronic warfare here. Cyber is 
another one. ISR, intelligence. All of those things matter. So, 
in every case where we are taking aircraft out, we are trying 
to make sure that a viable long term mission replaces that 
mission.
    Senator Schmitt. When do you expect to announce that follow 
on mission for the 442nd?
    Secretary Kendall. I would have to get that for you. I 
don't know when----
    Senator Schmitt. Okay. We are very interested in that. 
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Schmitt. Senator Kelly, 
please.
    Senator Kelly. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Kendall 
and General Brown, General Saltzman, good morning. Thank you 
for being here. For Secretary Kendall and General Brown, I want 
to thank you for your continued collaboration as we secure a 
long-term future for the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base in 
Tucson.
    I have lost count of all the meetings that we have had, but 
I think our work together has brought real progress, and I am 
encouraged by the current plan to bring new, enduring missions 
to Davis-Monthan that would keep the base at the center of our 
National Security for years to come, as it should be.
    The new plan would bring in additional search and rescue 
presence and brand-new electronic warfare platforms to DM that 
are important as the Air Force modernizes. The electronic 
warfare platforms, which is the new Compass Call aircraft, 
would be entirely based at DM, and the new Special Ops power 
projection wing would bring additional new flying missions and 
some exciting capabilities to DM under this plan.
    General Brown, can you comment on this wing's importance in 
the context of the Air Force's overall strategy?
    General Brown. Sure, Senator. Just as the name implies, the 
aspect of power projection. With our SOF [Special Operations 
Forces] force from Air Force Special Operations Command, that 
will be part of the base, in addition to the electronic warfare 
capability from the EC-37B, helps us be able to execute that 
power projection aspect.
    I think the other beauty of coming into Davis-Monthan is 
being able to bring special operation capability out to the 
Southwestern United States, and the range capability, and the 
ability--they are able to train in the Western United States, 
not only in Arizona, but in other parts of the United States, 
will also help us with that power projection.
    Senator Kelly. Yes, thank you. We have a very unique kind 
of weather situation, combination of weather and ranges. Also, 
this plan does have important aspects for our National 
Security.
    Importantly, it retains the same number of quality, high 
paying jobs in Tucson, and I am glad to see that the site 
activation task force has now begun its work at DM to make 
preparations for these new missions, and I know you requested 
some site and environmental review funding in the budget 
request.
    For my part, I will be working to ensure that that gets 
over the finish line in this Committee, as well as strong 
funding to advance the procurement of our new electronic 
warfare aircraft for DM and other assets in this plan.
    Secretary Kendall, this plan is ambitious, and I support 
that, but bringing this new mission and modernizing the others 
has a lot of moving parts here. What assurances can you provide 
me that you will be able to manage all these elements and stick 
with the timeline?
    Secretary Kendall. I can assure you that we will be paying 
a lot of attention to this and doing everything we can to 
assure that it happens as planned. I was just at Davis-Monthan. 
Got some great people there, and we want to make sure we do 
what we have laid out in order to support them.
    Senator Kelly. Anything specifically that you are doing to 
avoid any potential delays?
    Secretary Kendall. I think we are working with all the 
affected organizations right now to make sure that that 
planning is in place. I know the Special Operations people in 
particular are leaning forward to try to be prepared for this. 
We talked about the E-37s earlier and what is going on there. 
So, I think we are in generally good shape, Senator.
    Senator Kelly. Full transparency is very important for me. 
Could you please make sure you highlight any potential issues 
to Congress, to this Committee, as soon as they are 
encountered? That would help us get through this as 
expeditiously as possible.
    Secretary Kendall. I will do that. General Brown, are you 
aware of anything that is--?
    General Brown. No particular issues, and having just 
finished the first SAG activation task force, I think we will 
be able to identify if there is any critical aspects that we 
need your support on. Also, we also appreciated the opportunity 
to meet with the community leaders as well. That happened 
roughly about the same timeframe.
    I think a good dialogue, and we want to continue that 
dialogue, and work--collaborate to make sure we make DM 
successful.
    Senator Kelly. Right. Thank you. I look forward to working 
with you both through this process and making sure we stay on 
track. I also want to flag a totally separate issue in the 
SOUTHCOM region that I think could become a serious problem.
    China is looking to sell fighter aircraft to Argentina, 
potentially use that sale to create a foothold for future 
military basing in the Western hemisphere, and I think we need 
to be very vigilant on this.
    We can counter their pitch here by facilitating the 
transfer of Danish F-16s to Argentina. That is a possibility. 
This is not just a transfer of aircraft. It has real 
geopolitical and strategic importance.
    I just want to make you aware of this and just get your 
thoughts. I am already over my time, but I have had a series of 
conversations about this with U.S. Southern Command, with a 
number of our allies, and I think the Air Force has a real role 
to play here.
    If I could just get another 30 seconds, if Secretary 
Kendall or General Brown can comment.
    Secretary Kendall. I am aware of the case, Senator Kelly, 
and I agree with you that it is important. I think it is 
working its way through the interagency process right now. But 
I think there is an understanding of the importance of it for 
the reasons that you said.
    Senator Kelly. All right. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. 
Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Kelly. Senator Scott, 
please.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Chair. Secretary Kendall, can you 
just want to talk about what you do, you know, every day to try 
to save money and how the process works and--because I assume 
it is part of what you have to do every day, because you have 
you probably have a lot of requests. So how do you go through 
the process?
    Secretary Kendall. We try to discipline ourselves, 
obviously, about how we operate. Generally speaking, we are 
operating the current force at what I would call an acceptable 
level, and we look at things like sustainment and readiness and 
so on.
    There is no place that I can think of, frankly, where we 
are fat. The number that was mentioned earlier, if I could just 
find--it assumed there was a $25 billion saving per year over 
the 5 years to get the $125 billion. If I could find $5 
billion, I would be thrilled.
    We had to work very, very hard to find the $5 billion that 
we put in with the operational imperatives. The Department of 
Defense is not sitting there with a lot of excess cash lying 
around waiting to be found. That is not the way we are 
operating. I don't think there is any part of the Department 
that isn't operating on the edge of where it would like to be.
    I know General Brown or Saltzman may talk about that, but 
when you look at weapons systems sustainment accounts, you look 
at facility sustainment we are doing, I think, reasonably well 
by our people. In terms of compensation, we have got the pay 
increase and I don't think anyone should fault us for that.
    That comes first. But we are operating in a way which is 
designed to use our funds as efficiently as we possibly can. We 
are constantly looking for efficiencies and savings, but when 
we find them, there are many uses for those funds that are 
immediately available in a reasonable priority.
    The perception that there is a lot of waste in the 
Department and there is money laying around to be found is just 
simply not valid. I would let my colleagues comment if they 
would.
    Senator Scott. Do you guys want to add anything?
    General Brown. What I find is we have more requirements 
than we have on resources.
    Senator Scott. It is like running a company. Same thing.
    General Brown. Same--and this is the part where the 
Secretary, myself, and General Saltzman spend a lot of time 
with our staff determining how best to apply those resources to 
get us to not only take care of airmen, guardians, and their 
families, but the broadest, the most combat capability that 
each of those dollars will buy.
    Senator Scott. Yes.
    General Saltzman. I would just add, it is a continuous 
process to scrub requirements, whether that is hardware 
software requirements, whether that is personnel requirements, 
whether that is policy requirements.
    We are in a continuous evaluation of those, and one thing I 
will give Secretary Kendall for is we don't show up to his 
conference rooms without data to support our decisionmaking 
process.
    I think that has been valuable as we have--as we look at 
different alternatives or different ways of doing our day to 
day business, we have to show up with data to make sure we get 
it right.
    Senator Scott. Thanks. Secretary Kendall, first off, I 
appreciate what you said about A-10's, so hopefully we are 
making progress on that. I think it is the right thing to do 
for the country. Can you talk about Homestead? I guess there 
are rumors that there is an interest in closing Homestead. Is 
there anything happening on that?
    Secretary Kendall. I have not heard that rumor, Senator 
Scott. I am not aware of any--Homestead.
    Senator Scott. All right. If there is, if somebody would 
just call me and let me know. It is a big deal, as you expect. 
It is a big deal for Florida, right. Next, could you guys just 
talk about, do you have adequate resources to deter just two 
things if you want, and I know we don't have a lot of time, so 
two things.
    Do you have adequate resources to deter China? All right. 
When you talk to your friends and try to explain why we should 
help Ukraine and why should we be in position to deter China 
and Taiwan, what do you say to them?
    The global order doesn't sound very interesting to people. 
So, how do you say it to the just a layperson.
    Secretary Kendall. The answer to the first question is yes, 
but we are being challenged. I have not seen as aggressive or 
as capable a strategic competitor ever and that includes the 
Soviet Union. I had 20 years as a cold warrior.
    We have got to stay ahead of China, and our deterrence in 
the region depends upon our relative capabilities. China has 
been pretty smart about their investments and trying to attack 
what they see as our dependencies.
    As far as Ukraine is concerned, China is watching Ukraine, 
and they are watching to see if Russia can get away with naked 
aggression and if there is a united response against it that is 
effective or not.
    They are watching the economic consequences. They are 
watching how the alliance plays out in terms of its solidarity 
and other support. I have a litany of things that I think Xi 
Jinping that I would like him to learn from the Ukraine 
experience.
    One is that the short war you expect may not be the war you 
get. One is that your military may not be as good as they 
think--as they are telling you they are. Another is the 
economic consequence of aggression may be more than you can 
stand.
    I hope those are all lessons he is getting, but we are not 
through this yet. We have a ways to go, and I think it is 
admirable that the NATO [North Atlantic Treaty Organization] 
alliance is now stronger rather than weaker. That is not what 
Mr. Putin expected to have happen, and we need to continue down 
that path.
    It is definitely being watched by China very carefully, and 
we want them to get the right lessons from this.
    Senator Scott. Anybody else want to add anything?
    General Brown. Senator, I think we just take a look at 
history, and you think about the global order. It was in the 
interwar years and into World War II. Small events of any type 
of crisis can start a firestorm and this is something we have 
got to pay attention to.
    This is why it is important for our own security, for 
economic security, and our National Security, that we pay 
attention to what is going on around the world.
    It is probably, as the Secretary highlights, probably the 
most complex environment we have been in, in a number of years.
    General Saltzman. Just very quickly, I would add, as 
Secretary Kendall mentioned, that it is one of the asymmetric 
advantages of the United States that it can build a coalition 
of like-minded nations. It is a tremendous power, strength, and 
showing a demonstrated commitment to our allies and partners, 
and I believe China is taking notice.
    Senator Scott. Right. Thanks for what you guys do.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Scott. Senator Peters, 
please.
    Senator Peters. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Secretary Kendall, 
during Operation Desert Storm, the Air Force fielded 139 
fighter squadrons spread out across the entire service, 49 of 
those squadrons belonged to the National Guard.
    According to Air Force numbers, the total fighter fleet has 
been reduced now to 81 squadrons, with the Air Guard only 
fielding 26 of those. That means that over the past 30 years, 
we have seen nearly a 50 percent reduction in Air Guard fighter 
fleet.
    This comes at a time when global tensions are at their 
highest in 50 years, and as we just heard from your answers to 
the previous Senator, the complexity is significant.
    We have a hot war in Eastern Europe. We have a looming 
threat of conflict in the Pacific. So bottom line, I am 
concerned about the fact that we have a declining fighter plane 
fleet, and we are at a time where we need every single plane 
that we can possibly get our hands on. We have let our fighter 
fleet shrink significantly and are now continuing to reduce the 
number of fighters in order to, ``divest to invest.''
    As you are aware, Selfridge Air National Guard Base is home 
to A-10's that will be divested by the end of the decade with 
no replacement mission yet stated. You and I have spoken 
considerably about this issue and will continue to do that in 
the future. But my question is a little broader about 
procurement and actually having aircraft that will be stationed 
in various places, and certainly related to modernization.
    I have a specific question. How is the Air Force actually 
budgeting for the procurement of aircraft across the service 
necessary to ensure the full recapitalization of the Air 
National Guard fighter fleet? What support specifically do you 
need from Congress in order to accomplish that procurement 
budgeting that you are working on?
    Secretary Kendall. Thanks, Senator Peters. I was in the 
Pentagon for the first Gulf War, and what we had at the time 
was a legacy force essentially left over from the cold war. So, 
the numbers were quite a bit higher than they ultimately came 
down to be.
    The way we are budgeting is to try to balance the near, 
mid, and long term capabilities of the Air Force. What we look 
at is total combat capability. What we are trying to get to is 
the next generation of capabilities as quickly as we can, while 
we sustain the current force which is adequate to meet our 
needs.
    The A-10 in particular is an aircraft that has been--it is 
over 40 years old now. It was a fantastic aircraft in its day, 
but it is aging out and we are going to have to replace it. We 
are working with you and the other communities to try to do 
that in a way which has a minimal impact and preserves some of 
our capabilities.
    You mentioned the Guard. I have had a job opportunity now 
to visit a lot of Guard units, including yours in Michigan. 
They are highly capable units, and they are very important and 
cost-effective part of the force. We want to sustain the right 
balance between Active Guard and Reserve and have the right mix 
of mission capabilities.
    That mix is changing over time, and as war becomes more 
about information dominance than it does necessarily about 
kinetic power, we need things like ISR [intelligence, 
surveillance, and reconnaissance] and intelligence and cyber 
and EW, electronic warfare.
    We are trying to move toward that world and get that mix 
right. the recapitalization of the fighter fleet, if you will, 
is one part of a much deeper and richer fabric of things that 
we are trying to do.
    We also, of course, have the Space Force, which introduces 
a whole new set of capabilities as well. In some cases, space 
capabilities are going to be taking over for some of the 
traditionally air capabilities that we have had. Areas like 
communications and surveillance, for example.
    That is the picture that we are dealing with, and we are 
trying to get to the new capabilities that we want to field in 
greater numbers in the future as quickly as we can. That is a 
priority for us. While we sustain a reasonable sized current 
fleet. Does that help?
    Senator Peters. It is. Thank you. Secretary, for more than 
13 years, the Air Force has been investigating PFAS [Per- and 
Polyfluoroalky Substance] contamination at the former Wurtsmith 
Air Force Base in Oscoda, Michigan.
    As a result of the contamination, the Michigan Department 
of Health and Human Services has issued five separate public 
health warnings to the community. Unsafe fish, venison, small 
game, as well as for unsafe shoreline foam--and foam, as well 
as unsafe drinking water. However, there is still, still no 
cohesive cleanup plan in place, and the residents of Oscoda are 
understandably frustrated at what they perceive as being 
unnecessarily dragged-out process on the part of the Air Force 
rather than dealing with the problem directly.
    So instead of waiting for additional studies to be 
completed by either the Air Force or the EPA [Environmental 
Protection Agency], and before seeing any progress, the 
community is right now seeking urgent action to stop the flow 
of PFAS contaminated groundwater into the public waterways in 
the Oscoda area.
    These are called interim remedial actions, and there is a 
plan that has been submitted by the State of Michigan and local 
experts outlining exactly what needs to happen. My question for 
you, sir, is, can I get your commitment to taking these interim 
remedial actions now, now without any further delays?
    Secretary Kendall. Senator, I would have to take a look at 
that plan. I am not aware the details of it. What we have been 
doing with PFAS is, first of all, making sure people have safe 
water to drink. We have had a program to make sure that that 
was the case. In some cases, providing bottled water to people.
    We have stopped the use of PFAS for the most part. We are 
getting it out of all of our installations where it has been a 
fire suppressant. We haven't found a replacement for PFAS to 
put out fires yet, aqueous firefighting foam, but we are still 
doing research on that.
    As you know, I think EPA has come out with what we think 
will be a final criteria, four parts per trillion, which would 
then be the basis for cleanup efforts. In the meantime, we have 
been trying to understand the extent of pollution around our 
bases so that we could fully appreciate the depth of that as 
far as a health hazard, but also so that we could do cleanup 
effectively.
    We are making progress, even though it seems very slow. I 
am not aware of the interim plan that you described, but we 
will take a look at that. If there is an Air Force 
responsibility there, we will meet that responsibility.
    Senator Peters. Could you make a commitment to look at that 
plan so that we can have another discussion in the near future?
    Secretary Kendall. I will look at it and have a followup 
conversation with you, yes, sir.
    Senator Peters. Thank you.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator Sullivan, 
please.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Gentlemen, thank 
you for your testimony. General Brown and Secretary Kendall, I 
want to just get your assessment. I am going to do a little 
bragging here on behalf of the Active Duty and Guard Forces in 
Alaska, with the spy balloons and the Russian bear bomber 
incursions, and the rescue mission, and the search and rescue 
mission on some really challenging weather events where they 
are saving lives.
    Our Air Forces in Alaska have just been, in my view, doing 
exceptional work over the last several months. They do it all 
the time. These are hard missions, right, going to intercept a 
spy balloon or unidentified aircraft in the middle of the night 
over the North Slope of Alaska.
    It takes a lot of work in darkness and crummy weather. Can 
you talk to the importance of how they are doing, and including 
the JPARC [Joint Pacific Alaska Range Complex] training ranges 
and the future you see for them in the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. I have had a privilege to visit Alaska 
bases multiple times in my tenure, and I am incredibly 
impressed by the quality and capabilities up there. I also hear 
about missions people do, and as you mentioned, in extreme 
conditions to do rescues and to do intercepts and so on.
    It is an enormously effective part of our force. Alaska's 
strategic position matters a great deal, too. You have got good 
access to a lot of parts of the globe that are very important 
to us. Your forces participate in some key missions, both for 
homeland defense and to support in the Indo-Pacific region.
    So Alaskan JPARC in particular, is a range kind of 
capability that we don't have anywhere else in the U.S. So, all 
very, very valuable to us. We are investing in these 
capabilities. There are investments in our budgets to improve 
JPARC, to make it more effective as a training range.
    I am looking forward to coming up there in the summer and 
being there for one of those exercises.
    Senator Sullivan. Good. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. General, 
do you want to talk--any lessons learned on--maybe you can't do 
it in the hearing right now. But, you know, our Active Duty 
Forces were quite busy, the F-22s, the F-35s, with these bare 
bomber incursions, which are kind of normal. But the Russian--
the spy balloons and things like that. Any lessons learned that 
you can reveal right now or maybe in the closed session?
    General Brown. Senator, what I would like to, and you have 
you have already addressed it in some of your comments here, 
just the value of the teamwork across the force, because it is 
not just the fighter mission, but it is also our maintainers 
that get the aircraft in some pretty tough weather conditions, 
as well as our early warning with the E-3 and how all that 
command and control comes together to be able to execute the 
missions.
    You know part of that skill set comes from their day to day 
training they are able to get on JPARC, a very, you know, 
capable range that we continue to invest in. So, it is a 
combination of all those together that provide us that 
capability, that is in a very important part of the country.
    Senator Sullivan. Right. Thank you. Let me turn to kind of 
a related question. This year's budget includes a request for 
72 new fighters, 48 F-35As, 24 F-15 Eagles. We have over 100 
5th Gen fighters in Alaska, F-22s, F-35s.
    In the event of a conflict with the PRC [People's Republic 
of China], probably most, if not all of those aircraft, would 
be deployed there under the INDOPACOM's control, currently 
INDOPACOM Commander's control. This would require other 
aircraft to backfill the homeland defense mission in Alaska, 
which we just saw was so important.
    How will the Air Force fighter acquisition plan improve 
homeland defense, and what risks will the Air Force incur if 
the procurement timeline is interrupted, given that scenario I 
just kind of talked about?
    General Brown. Senator, it would--as we have looked at not 
only the procurement aspect but also how we would execute the 
mission. I do think we are on a good path for procurement for 
this particular budget.
    It is something we want to continue to pay attention to, 
not only the aspect of the aircraft themselves, but also the 
capabilities that support and complement those aircraft, 
whether it is munitions, whether it is command and control.
    As we have operational scenarios that is the beauty of air 
power, the flexibility that we would have to do in order to 
move some of our 5th Gen capability and munitions to combat our 
adversaries.
    At the same time, how we would flex our total force to take 
care of the Homeland mission, the Homeland defense mission as 
well. So, this is where, you know, I think we have pretty good 
capability to be able to be responsive in a crisis with air 
power.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you, and, Mr. Chairman, just a real 
quick final question for General Saltzman. General, you know, 
Alaska is also the cornerstone of America's missile defense in 
terms of ground-based missile interceptors at Fort Greely, and 
the radar systems that we have throughout the State.
    Recently, NORTHCOM completed its testing of the long-range 
discrimination radar (LRDR) system at Clear Space Force Station 
in Alaska. Can you talk to the Committee about how this LRDR 
system has dramatically improved our missile defenses and 
domain awareness? Is it on track, the way in which you want it 
to be?
    General Saltzman. Well, it is a very important radar in a 
very important location. It is highly discriminating in terms 
of target. It produces high fidelity it tracks, that enable our 
missile defense system and secure the homeland from missile 
threats.
    Day to day, it also will be capable of supporting the space 
domain awareness mission, which I am heavily invested in, and 
so, the number of tracks from that part of the sky is a 
significant contribution to our overall space domain awareness.
    Senator Sullivan. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Sullivan. Senator 
Duckworth, please.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you, and good morning to each of 
our witnesses. I had a very engaging 20 whole minutes, 
actually, thanks to the Subcommittee Chairman Kelly discussion 
with--on Air Force design at the Airland Subcommittee hearing 
last week. As the entire Joint Force reorganizes and 
modernizes, Congress has to play an active role in oversight to 
ensure that the DOD is equipped for competition with the best 
weapon systems and the most effective organization of our 
troops.
    The Marine Corps published a Force Design 2030 document, 
which provides a detailed roadmap and vision of what its future 
force will look like. The Navy published its Force Design 2045 
document, which looks--which goes through its shipbuilding 
aspirations.
    I understand from today's testimony that the Space Force is 
also working on a force design effort, though it doesn't sound 
like that has been completed quite yet. In contrast, the Air 
Force published its future operating concepts, which does not 
feature the level of detail that the other services have 
articulated.
    Mr. Secretary, I know that the Department of the Air Force 
has operational imperatives to help orient it to services' 
investments, but if neither service has an explicit roadmap for 
force design, the Air Force or Space Force, what is informing 
recruiting and retention goals, or specific RDT&E [Research, 
Development, Test and Evaluation] investments? Mr. Secretary, 
is your Department truly organized for competition?
    Secretary Kendall. That is a great question, Senator. The 
short answer is yes, but we have basically limited 
maneuverability over the next few years in terms of what the 
ultimate force structure will be. But there are some efforts--
General Brown and I have talked about this several times, and I 
have had a similar conversation with General Saltzman.
    We need to be thinking about the long-term future and what 
the future looks like given the strategic competitors that we 
have, particularly China. As you can see from the initiatives 
we started with the operational imperatives, we are moving 
toward modernization that will be effective against that 
threat, but that is a dynamic threat. It is constantly 
changing. It will respond to what we do.
    We need to think very carefully about the future, what our 
future posture might look like, and create some options at this 
point that will be fleshed out as we move further along. We 
also need to look at how we are structured.
    I have asked my scientific advisory board to take a look at 
this. The posture the Air Force has evolved into over time is 
one that was essentially derived from the kinds of operations 
it was conducting, which were largely counterinsurgency, with a 
lot of deployments overseas for people, and a certain kind of 
tactical combat operations.
    That is not what our future looks like. We have got to look 
at how we are training the R-4 Generation. The R-4 Generation 
model that General Brown is using is a piece of that to get us 
to a better cycle for how we utilize the force and how we 
prepare for more stressing operations.
    But we have also got to look at how we are structured to do 
acquisition. We are not transitioning science and technology as 
quickly in the products as we should be, or as efficiently as 
we should be. There are a number of things that we need to take 
a look at.
    On my list of to do is at this point in time is to work 
with my teammates here to try to define the structure we are 
going to need for the long-term strategic competition we are 
in, and that is a work that we really haven't completed yet.
    I am very comfortable with where we are going over the next 
few years, but we need to posture ourselves for a longer-term 
competition.
    Senator Duckworth. So, there will be some sort of a 
document in the future, because you understand, we have to do 
our jobs here, right. At some point, decisions are required to 
shape these investments going into the future. For example, the 
Marine Corps says that they required 31 amphibious ships.
    Congress and this Committee can authorize and advocate for 
those ships and hold leaderships at all levels accountable. I 
do think that Air Force and Space Force needs to work 
constructively with Congress to appropriately allocate the 
resources and measure its modernization success.
    But how can we do that if neither the Air Force nor the 
Space Force has an explicit modernization roadmap based on some 
sort of future looking force design effort?
    Secretary Kendall. There is a well-known aphorism, Senator 
that plans are nothing and planning is everything. We have 
started the planning work, but we don't have the plan yet. But 
I think, I agree with you that would be a valuable document to 
have, to lay out where we are going to go.
    We will be working on that for our own purposes, but I 
agree with you that it will be valuable probably for the 
Congress as well.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you. I am going to followup on 
this and keep at it, just so you know. I wanted to also talk 
about recruiting, retaining, and effectively leveraging the 
organic talent within the services.
    For example, we have the ability for servicemembers to test 
out on a language and say, I am a native Spanish speaker, I am 
a native Thai speaker, I speak French, and you can actually get 
that designation by taking the language test and then the force 
knows that you have those airmen--those guardians that have 
those resources, those capabilities.
    But I believe that we risk overlooking the skills of 
servicemembers, particularly those in the Reserve component, 
who have critical digital skills from their civilian careers. I 
introduced the Managing Active and Reserve Tech Talent 
Effectively Act--it is a mouthful, I know--to fix that.
    My bill directly directs the services to establish career 
field policies and processes to identify members across the 
total force who have skill sets in advanced technology areas 
such as computer programing, coding, AI [artificial 
intelligence], ML [machine learning].
    It gives the Department discretion and flexibility to 
figure out the best way to do that. But my bill requires that 
the Reserve component servicemembers be able to use their 
skills and experiences from their civilian jobs to qualify for 
these military career fields.
    General Brown, General Saltzman, I would like to hear from 
each of you about the benefits to your services that come from 
leveraging the digital skills of its total force 
servicemembers, particularly those in the Reserve component who 
have tech skills from their civilian careers.
    General Brown. They are very important. There are a couple 
of programs that we are looking at to deal--one was out of DIU 
[Defense Innovation Unit] back in December entitled GigEagle. 
It is an aspect of identifying those who have those specific 
skill sets that you can bring on for a short period of time to 
work for you. A complex issue because of their civilian 
expertise.
    The other part we are also looking at is how we get better 
visibility on their certifications, and how we use that 
information and for promotion boards and other areas. Not just 
your academic degrees, but you are certified in areas that 
don't require an academic degree.
    How we have better visibility on those and how we track 
that particular talent with the special experience identifiers 
so we can tap into and provide those opportunities for those 
outstanding servicemembers that can help us in areas, just 
because of the work they do in the civilian sector.
    Senator Duckworth. Thank you.
    General Saltzman. I agree, they are critical. In fact, they 
are so critical, I am trying to make sure that the Space Force 
has a Reserve, has the part time workforce integrated into it, 
so that we can continue to leverage it.
    One of the things I have found is that those part time 
guardians, airmen now, guardians in the future, would be able 
to stay at the highest levels of those competencies because 
they are integrated into the commercial sector, and they can 
bring those skills readily in when we need them. So, it is a 
critical effort that I support.
    Senator Duckworth. I mean, you need to know where all 
you're MCSCs or CCNAs are, and know how many you have and say, 
hey, I need that guy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chairman Reed. Thank you, Senator Duckworth. Mr. Secretary, 
General Saltzman, and General Brown, thank you for your 
testimony and for your service. At this point, let me, for the 
benefit of my colleagues, remind them there is a vote ongoing. 
We will reconvene at 12:15 p.m. in SVC-217 for the closed 
session. With that, I will adjourn the open session.
    [Whereupon, at 11:47 a.m., the Committee adjourned.]

    [Questions for the record with answers supplied follow:]

             Questions Submitted by Senator Jeanne Shaheen
                              compass call
    1. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, the war in 
Ukraine has shown the importance of modern electronic warfare systems, 
and this is why I applaud the Air Force's development of the latest 
Compass Call aircraft. What role do you see for Compass Call in terms 
of conducting electronic warfare alongside our combat aircraft in a 
modern contested environment?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. While we can't get into many 
specifics of the Compass Call here, it is designed to be a rapidly 
adaptable electromagnetic spectrum (EMS) dominance aircraft and to 
provide commanders with asymmetric advantages in targeting enemy 
communication, navigation, data links, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), 
and advanced radar systems.
    The Compass Call's principal mission is to manipulate the EMS 
through precision Airborne Electronic Attack (AEA) allowing other 
forces to accomplish their missions. Its primary responsibility is to 
minimize the effectiveness of adversary threat systems while maximizing 
the effectiveness of our own. The EC-37B supports both defensive and 
offensive counter air by providing a safe space from which friendly 
forces can operate, while also defending lines of communication and 
denying the adversary the ability to effectively carry out air and 
missile operations. The new airframe offers increased performance in 
range, speed and altitude, power generation, and sustainability for an 
overall lower operating cost. We view the Compass Call as a very 
capable, survivable, and essential force multiplying asset and a key 
player on the modern contested environment.

    2. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, following 
last year's appropriations bill, Congress has now funded ten Compass 
Call aircraft. Are the 10 Compass Call aircraft funded by Congress 
sufficient to meet the challenges in Europe and the Indo-Pacific?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The additional four (4) EC-37B 
Compass Call aircraft added into fiscal year 2023 appropriations bring 
our current program of record number up to 10 aircraft. The 10 aircraft 
in our initial program of record was what the Air Force could support 
and utilize at the time and will provide great capability for the USAF 
in supporting Joint Force solutions to challenges in both Europe and 
the Indo-Pacific theaters.
    I initiated an Electromagnetic Spectrum Operations (EMSO) Cross-
cutting Operational Enabler (COE) Team to provide a holistic assessment 
of EMS capabilities and capacity necessary to support my seven 
Operational Imperatives and win in the EMS. The 10 EC-37B Compass Call 
aircraft are part of the solution. An assessment of the future number 
and mix of assets is ongoing.

    3. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, will you 
provide an update on the status of developmental testing of the EC-37 
Compass Call aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. [Deleted.]
                         additive manufacturing
    4. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, as you 
know, the Air Force stood up its Rapid Sustainment Office under Air 
Force Materiel Command in 2018. Its purpose is to address sustainment 
issues, including supply chain shortfalls that negatively affect fleet 
readiness. In particular, I understand many challenges exist with 
acquiring parts for our older aircraft. I am pleased, however, that the 
Air Force has been an early leader in adopting additive manufacturing 
to address these challenges. Can you discuss how the lack of available 
parts affects the readiness of our aircraft?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force Fleet has an 
average age of 29 years, with some of our aircraft being more than 60 
years old. As aircraft age, the original equipment manufacturers may 
discontinue support or even go out of business, making it very 
difficult for Air Force personnel to find replacement parts in a timely 
manner. Delays in acquiring parts directly impacts maintenance 
schedules, ultimately reducing the mission capable rates of the 
affected aircraft fleets.

    5. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, is the 
issue of the lack of parts magnified at overseas bases and smaller 
bases?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force does not 
specifically differentiate between small bases and large bases in terms 
of readiness and parts support. Rather we measure parts availability by 
average stocking and issuing effectiveness. Parts availability is an 
average of 8 percent lower among smaller supply accounts. Overseas 
supply support is comparable to CONUS bases, with 2 percent higher 
average issuing and stocking effectiveness (77.0 percent for overseas 
bases vs. 74.7 percent for CONUS bases) and is not magnified in 
comparison to smaller parts supply accounts.
    It is also important to note that parts availability is directly 
related to the Air Force and Office of Secretary of Defense readiness 
priority designations, which are used to increase parts availability at 
locations specifically outlined in the National Military Strategy 
objectives.

    6. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, how do you 
envision using additive manufacturing to solve some of these problems?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Additive Manufacturing (AM) is 
an effective tool that provides substantial design and manufacturing 
flexibility. The Air Force is using A to mitigate diminished 
manufacturing sources of supply and long lead time supply chain 
shortfalls associated with our legacy aircraft fleets. Additionally, AM 
empowers our airmen to create innovative solutions for the myriad of 
sustainment challenges they face.

    7. Senator Shaheen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, can you 
describe any successes with using additive manufacturing?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force has achieved 
many successes using additive manufacturing. Recent examples of these 
successes include:
    C-5M Super Galaxy Blocks and Wedges: The Advanced Manufacturing 
Program Office, in coordination the C-5 System Program Office out of 
Robins AFB, Georgia, recently modified an aerodynamic fairing (an 
aerodynamic fairing is a structural element that helps to reduce drag 
on an aircraft) for a C-5M Super Galaxy by incorporating printed 3-D 
polymer blocks and wedges made using an ``Antero 800NA'' printer. The 
repair process involved completely removing the old parts from the 
plane, and re-bonding the new 3D printed blocks and wedges to the 
aircraft. Integrating 3-D printing technology has expedited C-5M Super 
Galaxy repair cycle times and reduced costs. Three aircraft to date 
have been upgraded with the new 3-D printed parts.
    B-1 Fairing Slip Joints: The Centralized Air Force Manufacturing 
Center (CAFMC) at Ellsworth AFB has generated huge advancements in Cold 
Spray repairs, 3-D printing, and locally developed technological 
improvements that not only enable increasingly agile maintenance for 
all platforms, but also extend the service life of legacy platforms 
while reducing their maintenance and operating costs. The team recently 
developed a first-ever on-aircraft Additive Manufacturing Cold Spray 
restoration for a B-1 aircraft over wing fairing slip joint that 
resulted in a savings of over $500,000 and 8 weeks of Non-Mission 
Capable time.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Mazie K. Hirono
                          space national guard
    8. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman, Hawaii 
has one the few Air National Guard units with a space aligned mission. 
I am concerned that by not making a definitive decision on how these 
units will fit within the National Guard, these critical units will 
fall by the wayside as their facilities and training needs are 
prioritized below those of the Space Force and the wider Air National 
Guard. For both of you, what is the best way to ensure the long-term 
success of these space aligned National Guard units?
    Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman. Today, the USSF relies on 
the space capabilities in the Air National Guard. These units are an 
important part of our space capabilities and highly valued. The Air 
Force continues to organize, train, and equip ANG units, however, the 
primary responsibility for the missions those units support has moved 
to the Space Force. This arrangement is not sustainable over the long 
term, therefore the best way to ensure long-term success is to align 
these space units more directly to the USSF. We recommend enacting the 
Space Force Personnel Management Act while transferring the ANG 
missions to the Space Force, without establishing a Space National 
Guard.

    9. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman, the 
final decision to base Space Control Squadrons 4 and 5 in Hawaii has 
been released. Squadron 5 was originally intended to be stationed at 
Anderson Air Force Base. What was the reason to change the basing from 
Guam to Hawaii?
    Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman. Based on the increased 
threat and the scope of military capabilities resident on Guam today, 
our need to ensure resilient warfighting capabilities across the joint 
force led me to determine that Joint Base Pearl Harbor-Hickam is the 
most suitable location for Space Control Squadron 5.

    10. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman, how 
will these two units engage with existing space mission units on 
Hawaii, like the Air National Guard's 293d Space Control Squadron?
    Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman. The 293d Space Control 
Squadron, recently re-designated as the 293d Electromagnetic Warfare 
Squadron (EWS), is one of two EWS units standing up under the HIANG in 
partnership with USSF Space Delta 3, which is responsible for the space 
electromagnetic warfare mission, and in direct support of U.S. Space 
Command and U.S. Indo-Pacific Command objectives. These units will 
interact with Space Delta 3 to coordinate training, mission system 
sustainment, and other responsibilities.
                    maintenance versus modernization
    11. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, I have also heard that for 
the many projects on the Air Force's facility repair backlog it will be 
more cost-effective to replace these buildings than to continue to 
repair them. The Marine Corps is taking this approach for the use of 
their Facilities Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization funds. 
Would it be useful for the Air Force to adopt the use of the Marine 
Corps' readiness maximization tool?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF is evaluating the United States Marine 
Corps' (USMC) Facilities Sustainment, Restoration and Modernization 
(FSRM) optimization model to see how we may be able to incorporate 
aspects of it to improve our processes, but at this time we do not 
intend to adopt it full scale.
    The USMC and Department of the Air Force (DAF) models differ based 
on fundamental employment of installations and the associated 
operational risk. While both models utilize data to predict asset 
condition over time in a similar manner, the DAF approach empowers 
operational commanders to a greater degree, which is critical to the 
success of air and space missions.
    The DAF is confident in our current methodology, and that a fully 
funded FSRM mix of sustainment, restoration, and modernization dollars, 
coupled with divestment/demolition will significantly reduce our 
deferred maintenance and repairs (DM&R) backlog and improve mission 
resiliency and quality of life.

    12. Senator Hirono. Secretary Kendall, to do this, would the Air 
Force need additional authorizations to re-capitalize its facilities in 
this manner?
    Secretary Kendall. Legislation to authorize replacement of 
facilities with Operations and Maintenance funds would provide the DAF 
with needed flexibility, and we welcome your support of the DOD 
Legislative Proposal to accomplish this. There are various examples 
where replacement of a failed facility is more economical than repair/
renovations to bring the antiquated facility up to current life, 
health, and safety codes. For example, we have many assets over 50 
years old across the enterprise which are in failing condition that 
would benefit from a modification to existing authorizations, which 
would provide a more optimized and economical solution than repair.
    Support and enactment of the Legislative Proposal would provide DAF 
and sister services the capability to maximize taxpayer dollars and 
simultaneously optimize facilities and infrastructure to address future 
challenges from peer adversaries.

                            e-7 procurement
    13. Senator Hirono. General Brown, INDOPACOM has identified the 
urgent need for E-7 fielding as soon as possible. Yet, the Air Force 
included advanced procurement for the E-7 in its unfunded priorities 
list. Will the E-7 be late to need without this additional funding?
    General Brown. Gaps in the Airborne Moving Target Indicator (AMTI) 
capability exist today. The E-3's failing engines with diminishing 
sources of supply and aging radar technology can no longer be mitigated 
by upgrades. The Air Force funded two E-7 prototypes in fiscal year 
2023/fiscal year 2024. If the fiscal year 2024 E-7A Unfunded Priority 
List (UPL) is funded, long-lead items for two E-7A production aircraft 
would begin production in fiscal year 2024 pulling delivery on those 
first two production aircraft forward into fiscal year 2028 and 
posturing the DAF to further mitigate the current AMTI capability gap.
         delivery of the new aerial refueling aircraft (kc-46)
    14. Senator Hirono. General Brown, the Air Force continues to 
struggle with re-capitalizing its tanker fleet. Though the KC-46 has 
made some milestones this year it still has not met all its operational 
requirements, and analysis already suggests the need for a next-
generation air refueling platform. When can we expect the KC-46 to 
reach full mission capability? How have you prepared your respective 
commands for the defense of U.S. bases and territories against the 
possibility of hypersonic missiles?
    General Brown. The KC-46A Pegasus has been meeting the warfighting 
needs of combatant commanders since August 2021. Air Mobility Command 
(AMC) is confident in the KC-46A's ability to project and connect the 
Joint Force. The KC-46A provides lethality and additional options to 
the Joint Force with its ability to extend reach and increase 
battlespace awareness. The KC-46A acquisition presents challenges, but 
there are fixes underway, and aircrew and maintainers are developing 
proficiency and confidence in the aircraft.
    Starting in Summer 2021, through its Interim Capability Release 
(ICR) Process, AMC progressively made KC-46As available for employment 
and tasking as operations with receiver aircraft were adequately tested 
and evaluated. Through this effort, AMC has cleared KC-46As to carry 
out operational refueling on nearly all required aircraft, except for 
the A-10 Thunderbolt II and other receiver aircraft without an approved 
technical compatibility assessment.
    In September 2022, the AMC commander approved KC-46A for worldwide 
use in support of combatant command taskings, including combat 
operations. This is a major milestone on the road to declaring Full 
Operational Capability (FOC). That said, AMC is not planning to declare 
FOC until after the solutions for the current Remote Vision System 
(RVS) and ``Stiff Refueling Boom'' deficiencies have begun fielding. 
These solutions are currently expected to begin fielding in fiscal year 
2026.
    The DAF will continue to rely on the U.S. Army, Joint Force, and 
Allies to provide ground based air defense, particularly against 
emerging hypersonic threats. In accordance with the Agile Combat 
Employment scheme of maneuver and Operational Imperative 5, the USAF 
will complicate the adversary's ability to target our bases by 
distributing operations to dispersed locations and will enhance the 
resilience of base infrastructure against attacks through selective 
hardening, rapid airfield damage repair, prepositioning of fuel and war 
reserve materiel, agile communications, and development of 
expeditionary multi-capable airmen.

    15. Senator Hirono. General Brown, will the need for a next-
generation tanker affect KC-46 acquisition?
    General Brown. The DAF is currently in the process of completing 
its acquisition of 179 Program of Record KC-46As. To date, the Air 
Force has awarded contracts to procure 128 KC-46As and has delivered 69 
aircraft to five bases. The final KC-46As are being procured in fiscal 
year 2027 with deliveries in fiscal year 2029. The need for a next-
generation tanker and the DAF's plans for continuous KC-135 tanker 
recapitalization will not affect the remainder of the current KC-46A 
acquisition program.
    In the fiscal year 2024 budget, the DAF initiated and accelerated 
the next-generation tanker program, known as the Next Generation Air-
refueling System (NGAS), by funding an Analysis of Alternatives (AoA). 
Once completed, the AoA will influence NGAS technology maturation and 
requirements development. Meanwhile, the DAF will continue 
uninterrupted tanker recapitalization during the gap period between the 
end of the KC-46A contract and NGAS with a program called Tanker 
Recapitalization. The DAF's goal is to use Tanker Recapitalization to 
replace up to 15 KC-135s per year as they retire and until the NGAS 
solution is ready to field. The DAF intends on buying fewer commercial 
derivative, air-refuellable tankers than previously envisioned due to 
NGAS's acceleration.
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                Questions Submitted by Senator Tim Kaine
                         unaccompanied housing
    16. Senator Kaine. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, current 
USAF policy defines unaccompanied housing as specifically designated 
for airmen E1 to E3 and E4s with less than 3 years of service. As of 
2021, there was not enough unaccompanied housing to support this policy 
at Joint Base Langley-Eustis (JBLE), and in March 2021 the Air Force 
signed a record of decision assigning an F-22 Formal Training Unit to 
JBLE, which further adds to this problem. Brand new airmen are 
currently asked to seek housing off-base after just 9 months at JBLE. 
What is the Air Force's plan to provide sufficient unaccompanied 
housing at Langley AFB?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We anticipate a 565-bed 
deficit at JBLE. We currently have a MILCON project for a 144-room 
dormitory that is already 35 percent designed and we are looking to 
program into a future MILCON FYDP year. An on-going update to the 
Dormitory Master Plan will provide additional recommendations to 
address the deficit requirements through future planning and 
programming. The Dormitory Master Plan will be complete by November 
2023 and will address the remaining 421 room deficit at Langley AFB. 
Currently, the installation has two dorms under renovations in fiscal 
year 2023 and fiscal year 2025, both pending funding. Unaccompanied 
airmen are not being asked to seek off-base housing after their first 9 
months. The installation moved its most senior airmen into a converted 
lodging facility and helps them graduate to off-base housing 
accommodations when ready, which can take approximately 9 months.
            hvac chiller replacement standardization project
    17. Senator Kaine. Secretary Kendall, in 2019 the Air Force Civil 
Engineering Center (AFCEC) issued a class justification and 
authorization (Class J&A) for other than full and open competition 
titled the HVAC Chiller Replacement Standardization Project. The Class 
J&A limits chiller purchases to a single company on each Air Force 
installation, eliminating competition for new purchases through the end 
of fiscal year 2024. In response to a provision included in the Senate 
Armed Services Committee Report (SASC) to accompany the Fiscal Year 
2023 NDAA, the Air Force completed both a Category Intelligence Report 
(CIR) and congressionally Requested Report (CRR) on this project. Both 
indicate that the Air Force intends to continue the Class J&A for 
another 5-10 years, even without performance metrics or collected data 
to prove that limiting competition is generating total cost of 
ownership (TCO) savings. Furthermore, the Air Force approach to 
calculating TCO does not appear to include a methodology for comparing 
the cost of initial chiller and ancillary equipment under the Class J&A 
with the cost of initial chiller and ancillary equipment with 
competition. The CIR acknowledges that the Air Force has not yet 
developed the metrics and data to support the TCO model, although it 
suggests that initial purchase price is one factor the Air Force is 
considering. What is the Air Force's methodology for comparing the cost 
differential between initial procurement costs of chillers and 
ancillary equipment with and without competition?
    Secretary Kendall. The Category Intelligence Report (CIR) from 2018 
analyzed procurement cost from fiscal year 2012 to fiscal year 2016 
contract data. Metrics and data to support the Total Cost of Ownership 
(TCO) model have not yet been fully developed, including comparing the 
cost differential between initial procurement costs of chillers and 
ancillary equipment with and without competition.
    However, the DAF is committed to developing metrics and tracking 
mechanisms that inform the TCO for its chiller inventory. There are 
three current initiatives in place to begin acquiring real time data 
supporting chiller TCO: improving inventory data in the BUILDER 
Sustainment Management System (SMS) to provide standardization progress 
(fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2024), implementing and assessing a 
mobile device pilot program at five installations allowing technicians 
to accurately record near real-time maintenance and repair history 
(started in fiscal year 2023), and centrally funded vendor training 
(started in fiscal year 2021).

    18. Senator Kaine. Secretary Kendall, it is my understanding that 
the greatest cost drivers in a TCO model for chillers are likely to be 
operating costs (i.e., energy usage) and the initial procurement of 
chillers and ancillary equipment. However, in the CIR, the Air Force 
states that 80 percent of TCO is attributable to sustainment costs. How 
did the Air Force arrive at this figure and what is the methodology for 
calculating sustainment costs?
    Secretary Kendall. The Category Intelligence Report (CIR) from 2018 
found Heating Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) Facility Related 
Services (sustainment) accounted for 80 percent of HVAC spending. This 
figure came from analyzing Air Force contracting data and work 
management history of maintenance and repair activities from fiscal 
year 2012 to fiscal year 2016. The CIR further defines HVAC 
``Services'', as maintenance, repair, and other sustainment activities 
performed by a trained workforce.

    19. Senator Kaine. Secretary Kendall, in the CIR on the HVAC 
Chiller Replacement Standardization Project, the Air Force states that 
advanced training on HVAC systems cannot be delivered virtually. Please 
explain why the Air Force believes this training cannot be completed 
using a blended learning approach?
    Secretary Kendall. The HVAC Chiller standardization coupled with 
commercial off the shelf training greatly enhances the workforce's 
technical competencies to service HVAC systems. This manufacturer 
instructed advanced training is predominantly performance-based 
(troubleshoot/repair) tasks on HVAC equipment. While blended learning 
offers advantages, the hands-on experience and equipment specific 
training received is very difficult to duplicate in a virtual 
environment.
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            Questions Submitted by Senator Elizabeth Warren
               acquisition without congressional approval
    20. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, in April of this year, you 
called for a policy that would allow the Pentagon and Air Force (USAF) 
to start initial phases of an acquisition program without prior 
congressional approval. If this policy change is enacted, oversight 
processes, reporting to Congress, and reporting to the public will be 
put in place to assess the effectiveness?
    Secretary Kendall. The intent for these ``quick-start'' programs is 
to leverage the successful notification and oversight mechanisms 
currently in use for DOD's Rapid Acquisition Authority (RAA). 
Congressional defense committees would be notified by the Service 
Secretary within 15 days of the determination by the SecDef or 
DepSecDef to exercise the authority. The Service Secretary would 
include information such as a description of the high priority effort, 
rationale for prioritizing the effort, and an explanation as to why 
source funds are available for this higher priority effort. The Service 
would also identify RAA-funded (and sourced) efforts in subsequent 
budget exhibits and briefings provided to the congressional defense 
committees in support of DOD budget requests. The ability to assess and 
react to new information or threats within the year of execution via 
open dialog with Congress is critical to meeting the pacing challenge.

    21. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, if Congress approved the 
Department's rapid response to emergent technology advancements or 
threats proposal how much does the Air Force expect to spend each year 
over the next 5 years?
    Secretary Kendall. This proposal would modestly expand existing 
authorities to respond to and act upon emergent development 
requirements in the year of execution. There is no precise estimate for 
the exercise of this proposed authority in the future. The $300 million 
DOD threshold among the Services was set to accommodate unique 
situations where multiple Services may have emergent requirements that 
require prompt action in the year of execution. The scope and scale of 
individual efforts is likely to be limited since the work being pursued 
would be entirely pre-Preliminary Design Review (PDR) authorities.

    22. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, would there be any 
requirement to produce a cost estimate or schedule for programs 
approved under the rapid response to emergent technology advancements 
or threats proposal?
    Secretary Kendall. Consistent with existing regulations for RAA, to 
the extent that it is readily available at the time of a request under 
this authority, cost and schedule information would be included in the 
request submitted for consideration by The Secretary of Defense.

    23. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, would you recommend programs 
approved under the rapid response to emergent technology advancements 
or threats proposal be implemented through other transaction agreements 
or FAR-type contracts?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force will consider all contract types 
and other transaction agreements available and evaluate them on a case-
by-case basis to identify the most effective means to allow for the 
rapid response to an emergent threat or technology. The type of 
arrangement would be chosen in accordance with the nature of the 
vendor, the urgency of getting work underway, and the nature of the 
work.

    24. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, programs approved under the 
rapid response to emergent technology advancements or threats proposal 
include requirements for companies to produce cost or pricing data when 
requested by the government?
    Secretary Kendall. Like the existing RAA, the activities performed 
under this authority will be executed in full compliance with all 
applicable laws, rules, and regulations.

    25. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, would programs approved 
under the rapid response to emergent technology advancements or threats 
proposal need a sound business case prior to approval?
    Secretary Kendall. Like the RAA, the activities performed under 
this proposed expansion of RAA will be executed in full compliance with 
all applicable laws, rules, and regulations. The early nature of the 
work being performed pursuant to this authority means that many 
elements of formal programmatic review will come as the effort is 
subject to the regular budgeting and approval processes.

    26. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, would programs approved 
under the rapid response to emergent technology advancements or threats 
proposal need a plan to off-ramp capabilities when needed to prioritize 
schedule?
    Secretary Kendall. This proposal would allow for system development 
and demonstration activities to be resourced and conducted up to 
Preliminary Design Review (PDR). This enables a level of maturity that 
would be warranted just prior to entry into a milestone B program 
initiation decision. The early work performed under this authority 
would enable exploration of multiple options, consider tradeoffs, 
perform risk reduction activities, and inform decisions to off ramp 
initially desired capabilities potentially.

    27. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, how will the Air Force 
provide reporting to Congress on other program details including cost 
and success under the rapid response to emergent technology 
advancements or threats proposal?
    Secretary Kendall. Like the existing RAA, the congressional defense 
committees will be notified of any actions under this authority within 
15 days of approval by the Secretary of Defense. The Services will 
actively engage the Congress on the long-term plans to transition the 
effort to the normal budget and appropriations process.
                        defense industry mergers
    28. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, how have defense industry 
mergers and acquisitions affected contracts within the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. Recent defense mergers and acquisitions have 
generally had a marginal impact on companies that competed for DAF 
contracts. When performing reviews of defense mergers and acquisitions, 
we consider past contracts and potential competition concerns. We 
continue to see that competition exists in almost all instances with 
DAF equities. However, growing the defense industrial base is key to 
our long-term success against the pacing challenge and acute threats. 
We are working to expand the defense industrial base through various 
means, including attracting new small business entrants via our AFWERX 
efforts and promoting establishment of vendor pools early in 
acquisition programs to stimulate competition and increase long-term 
flexibility. Further, we continually monitor and take steps to address 
the health of our defense industrial base. For example, DOD is 
investing in trusted domestic printed circuit board manufacturing 
through the Defense Production Act (DPA) Title III Program to counter 
contraction in the circuit board market.

    29. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, would there be any benefit 
to reviewing past mergers and acquisitions to inform future 
recommendations for remedies or anti-trust agencies' decisions on 
whether to approve mergers and acquisitions?
    Secretary Kendall. The DOD has successfully worked with the Federal 
Trade Commission and Department of Justice to provide insight on the 
national security implications of potential mergers and acquisitions, 
and to challenge them when necessary. Our focus is on how the defense 
industrial base is poised to support the execution of our missions, 
including the work of the Operational Imperatives.

    30. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, how many Air Force personnel 
support merger and acquisition reviews?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF has a robust workforce to manage all 
aspects of the defense industrial base including coordination with 
experts from across the DOD and the interagency to assess and address 
the national security implications of mergers and acquisitions.

    31. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, do you think DOD has 
sufficient authority and access to information in the process to review 
mergers and acquisitions?
    Secretary Kendall. The DOD has sufficient authority to review 
mergers and acquisitions. The information needed to conduct our review 
is readily available. When needed, the DOD can enter confidentiality 
agreements to access further details on a potential transaction to 
better assess the near-term and long-term implications to national 
security. Additionally, the DOD continues to successfully work with the 
Federal Trade Commission and Department of Justice to challenge mergers 
and acquisitions.

    32. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, do you still view the 
consolidation of defense contractors to be an issue of national 
security?
    Secretary Kendall. The consolidation of defense contractors is an 
issue of national security because of its potential effect on 
competition and innovation. Over the years, prime contractors and 
aircraft and engine manufacturers have established robust teaming and 
supplier relationships with their lower tier suppliers. We are 
monitoring for contraction in opportunities for competition that 
requires action. For example, in some rapidly contracting markets, such 
as the printed circuit board market, the DOD is taking steps to bolster 
it via DOD authorities, policies, and regulations. Specifically, the 
DOD is investing in trusted domestic printed circuit board 
manufacturing through the Defense Production Act (DPA) Title III 
Program.
             future use of unfunded priorities lists (upls)
    33. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, do you 
agree that if funding is needed for a project, it should be a part of 
the command/service budget?
    General Brown. Referencing DODD 7045.14 Planning, Programming, 
Budgeting, and Execution (PPBE) Process, Services shall develop and 
execute the programs and budgets necessary to achieve national 
objectives. If a project has been deemed a requirement that supports 
the Joint Force in meeting national objectives, we do believe it should 
be funded and executed with its respective command/Service budget. 
Further, as we modernize to prepare for a potential conflict against 
People's Republic of China, our budgets have numerous competing 
priorities and some of the priorities cannot be funded. In accordance 
with Title 10, U.S.C., section 222a, a list of top Service unfunded 
priorities included in the President's Budget is provided to Congress. 
The projects/bills listed on the Unfunded Priority List (UPL) are valid 
requirements and provide Congress with the ability to direct funding to 
expand or accelerate programs to meet mission needs and take care of 
our airmen and guardians.
    General Saltzman.

    34. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, 
historically, have previous UPL items been included in the following 
year's base budget? Have UPL items from fiscal year 2023 been included 
in the fiscal year 2024 base budget? If yes, please provide detail 
including the requested item, funding amount, and vendor executing the 
effort. If no, why not?
    General Brown. Yes, when possible. The Department of the Air Force 
(DAF) sends the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD) Director, Cost 
Assessment and Program Evaluation a list of unfunded but priority items 
that cannot be included in the DAF budget for that fiscal year. Items 
on the regrets list that are not funded by OSD are the starting point 
for developing the required Air Force UPL to Congress. UPL items from 
one fiscal year are evaluated and may be added to the next fiscal year 
budget request aligned with are DAF priorities to support the current 
National Defense Strategy against the evolving threats. The Air Force 
is happy to provide more details on the specific examples.
    General Saltzman. Yes, some requirements included in the UPL have 
been included in the following year's base budget. In the case where a 
capability is funded over multiple budget years and the capability can 
be accelerated, it may be included on the UPL and in the following 
year's base budget. Funding the UPL allows for additional capabilities 
to be funded in the outyears. In the case of DCO-S, it is included in 
both the UPL and the budget year baseline because we are prioritizing 
the acceleration of this capability to reach FOC sooner. Due to the 
nature of the certain space programs in the fiscal year 2023 UPL, the 
Space Force would be happy to provide additional information in a 
classified setting.

    35. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, do you 
agree that Federal agencies should be required to work within the 
confines of base budget process?
    General Brown and General Saltzman. The DAF Force utilizes the PPBE 
Process outlined in DODD 7045.14 guided by strategy to develop the 
Program Objective Memorandum (POM) for each fiscal year encompassed in 
the FYDP for the Service. We formulate our budget request and submit to 
the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD). The DAF provides 
solutions to fulfill National strategic priorities as articulated in 
the NDS within fiscal constraints. The DAF, along with the other 
service departments, provide solutions to National challenges. The 
civilian leadership at the White House and in the Congress determine 
the amount of funding that the Nation can spend on defense.

    36. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, Secretary 
of Defense Austin supports legislation that would repeal the 
requirement for individual leaders to submit unfunded priority lists 
under 10 U.S.C. 222a. He stated this publicly in a Senate Armed 
Services Committee hearing on March 28, 2023 and in a letter that Under 
Secretary Michael J. McCord sent on behalf on Secretary Austin to me on 
March 20, 2023. Do you plan to continue to submit unfunded priority 
lists?
    General Brown and General Saltzman. The Chief of Staff of the Air 
Force (CSAF) and the Chief of Space Operations (CSO), in accordance 
with Title 10, U.S.C., section 222a, submit their respective UPLs to 
the Secretary of Defense (SecDef), Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of 
Staff (CJCS), and congressional defense committees, as required by law. 
It is important for SecDef and CJCS to have awareness of the CSAF and 
CSO UPLs and we will continue to submit to both offices. We will follow 
the law and congressional guidance on delivering the USAF and USSF UPLs 
to the congressional defense committees.

    37. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, if you plan 
to submit unfunded priority lists in the future, why are you doing so 
despite Secretary of Defense Austin's support for the repeal of these 
required lists?
    General Brown and General Saltzman. The Chief of Staff of the Air 
Force (CSAF) and the Chief of Space Operations (CSO), in accordance 
with Title 10, U.S.C., 222a, submit their respective UPLs to the 
Secretary of Defense (SecDef), Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff 
(CJCS), and congressional defense committees to ensure some of the 
urgent but unfunded programs are considered for funding. It is 
important for the SecDef and CJCS to have awareness of the USAF and 
USSF UPLs and we will continue to submit shortfalls to both offices. 
However, we will follow the law and congressional guidance on whether 
to deliver the UPL to the congressional defense committees.
                          information on upls
    38. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what was 
the cost of putting together this UPL list?
    General Brown and General Saltzman. Creating the UPL is one of the 
many duties of Federal employees and military personnel in the Air 
Force and Space Force during budget preparation. It emerges as part of 
our normal budgeting process. No additional personnel were hired, and 
no additional work outside standard duty hours was required to create 
the UPL, therefore the financial cost of creating this list is 
essentially zero.

    39. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, for each 
item on the unfunded priorities list you submit in response to 10 
U.S.C. 222a, please provide the following information:
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The seven programs included in the Space Force's 
fiscal year 2024 unfunded priorities list represent critical research 
and development efforts focused on providing the Space Force with the 
capabilities necessary to address new emerging threats and developments 
that could not be addressed within the regular budget process. What 
follows are responses to your specific questions to the Space Forces' 
unfunded priorities list for the one unclassified program included on 
the list, Defensive Cyber Operations Capabilities Space (DCO-S).
    Due to the nature of Programs A-F, I would be happy to provide 
additional information in a classified setting.

    40. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, please 
provide a detailed description of this UPL?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The fiscal year 2024 UPL funds requested 
accelerate the delivery of defensive cyber operations capabilities to 
protect the network enclaves of USSF mission systems. The urgency of 
these funds is driven by commander's requirements from various 
combatant commands and require protection from evolving threats and 
changes to the cyber environment.

 
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                                                                                                Fiscal Year 2024
                                            Delta                                                     (SM)
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Labor                                                                                                     $32.33
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SW Dev Total Costs                                                                                        $18.55
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  SW Dev Costs--Manticore                                                                                 $18.03
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    # of FTEs                                                                                                 46
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  SW Dev Costs--Kraken                                                                                     $0.52
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    # of FTEs                                                                                                  1
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MD & S Total Costs                                                                                        $13.78
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  Mission Deployment Team--Manticore                                                                       $2.37
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    # of Manticore FTEs                                                                                        8
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  Mission Deployment Team--Kraken                                                                          $2.08
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    # of Kraken FTEs                                                                                           7
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  Mission Deployment & Support (MD&S TS Collateral)--Manticore                                             $1.60
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    # of Manticore FTEs                                                                                        4
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  Mission Deployment & Support (MD&S TS Collateral)--Kraken                                                $1.60
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    # of Kraken FTEs                                                                                           4
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  FIT Team (CDET3)--Manticore                                                                              $3.07
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    # of Manticore FTEs                                                                                       11
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  FIT Team (CDET3)--Kraken                                                                                 $3.07
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    # of Kraken FTEs                                                                                          11
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Initial Buys/HW Tech Refreshes/SW Renewals                                                                 $0.64
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SW Dev Costs--Manticore (SW, AWS, P1)                                                                      $0.19
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SW Dev Costs--Kraken (SW, AWS, P1)                                                                         $0.19
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HW/SW Initial Buys--Manticore                                                                            $(0.34)
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    # of Manticore Deployments                                                                                -1
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HW/SW Initial Buys--Kraken                                                                                 $0.60
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    # of Kraken Deployments                                                                                    0
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Manticore HW Tech Refreshes/SW Renewals--Mission Systems                                                      --
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    # of Manticore HW Tech Refreshes                                                                           0
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Kraken HW Tech Refreshes/SW Renewals--Mission Systems                                                         --
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    # of Kraken HW Tech Refreshes                                                                              0
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Other Costs (Acq Supp, Facilities, Taxes/Withhold)                                                         $8.15
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      Total                                                                                               $41.12
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    41. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what does 
the UPL purchase?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The UPL will be used to accelerate and expand 
software development and mission deployment teams to increase the rate 
in which product line suites are integrated with mission partner 
mission systems, to include the following prioritized mission sets: 
Protected Communications, Missile Warning, Military Strategic 
Communications (MILSATCOM), Position Navigation and Timing (PNT), 
Ballistic Missile Command and Control, Space Domain Awareness (SDA), 
Nuclear Command Control and Communications (NC3), and Command and 
Control Satellite Operations (C2 Sat Ops).

    42. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, please 
include detail on all end items with quantities, contractor FTEs, etc.
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The FTE Breakout below is based on POM Option: 
Balance of Development & Fielding w/ O&M Costs
      Software Development = 47 FTE
      Mission Deployment and Support = 45 FTE
      2 Acq Support Team

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                                             Fiscal    Fiscal    Fiscal    Fiscal    Fiscal    Fiscal    Fiscal
                   Delta                      Year      Year      Year      Year      Year      Year      Year
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Labor                                            138        94       137       157       160       187       157
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SW Dev Total FTES                                 97        47        59        80        80       103        95
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MD&S Total Costs                                  39        45        76        75        78        82        61
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Acq Supp                                           2         2         2         2         2         2         2
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    43. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what 
specific capability will the UPL provide?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. Fiscal year 2024 UPL funds are requested to 
accelerate delivery of defensive cyber operations capabilities to 
protect the network enclaves of USSF mission systems. The urgency of 
these funds is driven by the list of prioritized mission systems 
identified by the Space Operations Command Center. Additionally, 
commander's requirements from various combatant commands require 
protection from evolving threats and changes to the cyber environment.

    44. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what gap 
will this fill that is not in the base budget?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The UPL will provide the manpower to accelerate 
and integrate the DCO-S Hardware that was within the base budget as 
well as increase software development to keep up with the growing 
requirements of Delta 6.

    45. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, how will 
this capability support objectives outlined in current National 
Security, Military, and Defense Strategy documents?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. DCO-S directly supports the National Defense 
Strategy (NDS), National Military Strategy (NMS), and the National 
Security Strategy (NSS) by contributing to the security and resilience 
of the cyber and space domain in support of the Joint Force. Per the 
NDS, a key defense priority is to achieve deterrence of strategic 
attacks through resilience. Further the cross-cutting NDS priority 
missions direct the DOD to gain and maintain information advantage, 
particularly in cyberspace, space, and the electromagnetic spectrum. 
Through the introduction of the notion of joint combined arms, the NMS 
directs the Joint Force and its leaders to be as comfortable fighting 
in space or cyberspace as they are in the other three traditional 
domains of land, sea, and air. And finally, the NSS designates securing 
cyberspace as a global priority. DCO-S supports all these directives 
and priorities by:
      Enhancing USSF's ability to secure mission networks 
adhering to DOD Instruction 5000.90, ``Cybersecurity for Acquisition 
Decision Authorities and Program Managers,'' December 31, 2020, and JP 
3-12, ``Cyberspace Operations,'' December 19, 2022.
      Supporting the USSF Cyber Strategy by directing 
protection for network enclaves of USSF mission systems, to include 
their associated computer systems, software applications and sensitive 
operational information against unauthorized intrusion, corruption, 
and/or destruction.
      Enhancing USSF's ability to close the gap on key 
USSPACECOM and USINDOPACOM commander cyber priorities.

    46. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what is the 
operational requirement? How does this UPL support current or future 
operations?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. This UPL accelerates software development work 
and advances prototyping of cyber capabilities that protect the network 
enclaves of USSF mission systems, to include their associated computer 
systems, software applications and sensitive operational information 
against unauthorized intrusion, corruption, and/or destruction. This 
UPL accelerates the deployment and integration timeline of critical DCO 
capabilities that provide Space Delta 6 with protect and defend 
capabilities for: launch and early warning, positioning, navigation, 
and timing, protected/survivable MILSATCOM/NC3, and satellite control 
networks.

    47. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what is the 
operational impact if this UPL is not funded in fiscal year 2024?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. If not funded, the timeline will be delayed by 12 
months for critical USSF assets to gain mission assurance from a cyber 
perspective. The space missions impacted include all USSF missions.

    48. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, are there 
plans to include this item in the fiscal year 2025 base budget?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The Service is currently prioritizing fiscal year 
2025 budget requirements including DCO-S.

    49. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, why was 
this UPL not included in the Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget 
submission?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The requirements within the Fiscal Year 2024 
President's Budget submission were met to a certain extent. However, 
the high demand for cyber capabilities has increased the rate in which 
mission partner systems are connected and need to be protected against 
cyber threats. This is increasing the need to accelerate development 
and delivery of cyber capabilities across the USSF.

    50. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what is the 
name of the vendor(s) executing this effort? Sub-vendor(s)?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman.

 
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                         Requirement                          Organization    APPN    Type   Option      PoP
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Cyber Ops Suite Development
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Cyber Ops Suite Development (P1 BOA)                           SSC/SZYO       3620     FFP    Base   1 Jul 2022-
                                                                                                     30 Jun 2023
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Cyber Ops Suite Development (Digital Bloodhound)                                                            TBD
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AFRL Cyber R&D (CNF)                                                AFRL      3620     FFP     OY6   Ends 28 Sep
                                                                                                           2023
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Agile Release Train (Karthik)                                  SSC/SZYO          ALL   FFP     OY2   9 Jul 2022
                                                                                                      8 Jul 2023
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FIAR TO29 (Deloitte)                                            AFMC/FM      3620/     FFP     OY3   1 Feb 2023
                                                                              3410                       31 Jan
                                                                                                           2024
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NIWC Engineers                                                 SSC/SZYO      3620/     FFP            Agreement
                                                                              3410                   ends 28 May
                                                                                                           2025
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CloudOne (AWS)                                                       AFLCMC/HN3620                   21 Sep 2022
                                                                                                       - 20 Sep
                                                                                                           2023
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PlatformOne                                                          AFLCMC/HN3620                   30 Mar 2023
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Product Line Integration
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SE&I (ENSCO)                                                   SSC/SZYN          ALL      CPFF OY5   1 May 2023
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CDET 3 (FIT Team)                                                  SpOC       3410                   1 Jun 2023
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Systems Line Integration/Accreditation
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LCDC (ISSE)                                                         EGS       3620     FFP     OY4   5 Aug 2022
                                                                                                      4 Aug 2023
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Development Test                                              47th Test       3620     FFP           1 Oct 2022
                                                               Squadron                                  30 Sep
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Aerospace                                                       SSC/ENT        All     FFP     OY4   1 Oct 2022
                                                                                                        30 Sept
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CMU/SEI                                                              AFLCMC/AZ3620     FFP           1 Oct 2022
                                                                                                        30 Sept
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MITRE                                                                AFLCMC/A3620/     FFP     OY3   1 Oct 2023
                                                                              3410                      30 Sept
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A&AS
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SAFS II                                                        SSC/ECRN      3620/     FFP     OY4   21 Feb 2023
                                                                              3410                     - 20 Feb
                                                                                                           2024
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Catalyst Campus                                                     AFRL      3620     FFP           01 Oct 2022
                                                                                                       - 30 Sep
                                                                                                           2023
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SLISS-2 (CISF) (Apogee)                                       SSC Det 5       3410     FFP     OY3   1 Mar 2023
                                                                                                         28 Feb
                                                                                                           2024
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    51. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, how often 
has your command met with the vendor executing this effort? Please 
provide a list of all such meetings, and the agenda for these meetings?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. I do not participate in the acquisition 
decisionmaking process for the Space Force. Acquisition decisions 
reside with the Secretary of the Air Force and subordinate acquisition 
authorities within the Department of the Air Force. The protections in 
place that identify and address conflicts of interest in the 
acquisition decisionmaking process also apply to the programs contained 
within the Space Force UPL for fiscal year 2024.

    52. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what is 
your history with this vendor? Please detail when the relationship 
began, the number of contracts applied for by this vendor, the number 
of contracts awarded to this vendor, and if you have had a personal 
relationship with the vendor?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. I do not participate in the acquisition 
decisionmaking process for the Space Force. Acquisition decisions 
reside with the Secretary of the Air Force and subordinate acquisition 
authorities within the Department of the Air Force. The protections in 
place that identify and address conflicts of interest in the 
acquisition decisionmaking process also apply to the programs contained 
within the Space Force UPL for fiscal year 2024.

    53. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, has anyone 
who formerly worked for your command represented the vendor in 
meetings? What is their name, what was their position, and when did you 
meet with them?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. I do not participate in the acquisition 
decisionmaking process for the Space Force. Acquisition decisions 
reside with the Secretary of the Air Force and subordinate acquisition 
authorities within the Department of the Air Force. The protections in 
place that identify and address conflicts of interest in the 
acquisition decisionmaking process also apply to the programs contained 
within the Space Force UPL for fiscal year 2024.

    54. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, in which 
city/State will the UPL be executed?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The UPL be executed in Colorado Springs, 
Colorado.

    55. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, is this 
requirement on an existing contract? If so, with who? What is the 
history of the contract?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. This requirement is on a variety of existing 
contracts, we also plan to put this requirement on the upcoming Digital 
Bloodhound contract.
    Digital Bloodhound Scope--The contractor will support all software 
development capabilities included in, but not limited to, the Defensive 
Cyber Software Solutions development and support activities. The 
support provided will include, but will not be limited to, the 
development of the cyber capabilities of the application suites, 
mission deployment activities, documentation and agile software 
deliveries, material management within the confines of the change 
control board, deployment of required hardware to mission systems, and 
continued support of the program office. Software solutions shall be 
intuitive for users, allowing for the mission to be conducted using 
applications on computing systems, i.e., tablets, desktops, or 
connected devices, to simplify mission execution and maintain mission 
success. The contractor shall collaborate across the various agile 
software efforts to test, integrate, and deliver developed software to 
the USSF.

    56. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what is the 
anticipated contract award date if the UPL receives funding?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The UPL will be executed through various existing 
contracts and the projected award date of Digital Bloodhound is August 
2023.

    57. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, what 
funding lines are associated with this UPL?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The following funding lines are associated with 
this UPL:
    APPN 3620, PE 1203040SF, R-1 Line #56 and APPN 3410, PE 1203040SF, 
SAG 13C.

    58. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, if multiple 
appropriations fund this requirement, must all appropriations be funded 
simultaneously to source this requirement, or can each appropriation 
stand on its own to fund a portion of the requirement?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The UPL requests only RDT&E appropriation to fund 
this portion of the requirement.

    59. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, how much 
was enacted and obligated (or expended for RDT&E) in fiscal year 2022 
to 2023 for this requirement?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The following was enacted and obligated (or 
expended for RDT&E) in fiscal year 2022 to fiscal year 2023 for this 
requirement: $6.156 million in fiscal year 2022, $28.16 million 
(Budget) in fiscal year 2023.

    60. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, how much 
was requested in fiscal year 2024 for this requirement?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The following was requested in fiscal year 2024 
for this requirement: $172.202 million in the fiscal year 2024 
President's Budget, $76.003 million in RDT&E, $96.199 million in O&M.

    61. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, is there a 
tail associated with this UPL?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. No, there is not a tail associated with this UPL.

    62. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, is any tail 
funded in the future years defense program?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. No, there is not a tail associated with this UPL 
request. This request is specifically to fund manpower to integrate the 
systems procured in Fiscal Year 2024 President's Budget.

    63. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, please 
describe how much the requirement will cost per year for the next 5 
years.
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The following table is based on the Fiscal Year 
2024 President's Budget Request: Balance of Development & Fielding w/ 
O&M Costs for current baseline program ($M).

 
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                                             Fiscal Year   Fiscal Year   Fiscal Year   Fiscal Year   Fiscal Year
             Fiscal Year 2024                   2025          2026          2027          2028          2029
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172.202                                         158.812       154.971       161.186       146.856       149.793
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    64. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, please 
provide in detail the previous funding requests and enacted for this 
requirement, including if it was in the base budget or UPL.
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. The details of previous funding requests and 
enacted funding for this requirement is as follows:

    All RDTE ($M):

      Fiscal Year 2022:
          Request $2.150
          Reprograming $4.006

      Fiscal Year 2023:
          Request $28.162
          Congressional General Reduction $-0.075

      Fiscal Year 2024:
          Request $76.003

    65. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, if the 
requirement is not included in the future years defense plan, will that 
be rectified in the next Program Objective Memorandum or the Program, 
Planning, Budget, and Execution (PPBE) cycle?
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. DCO-S is included in the FYDP; adjustments will 
be considered as needed during the Service's budget review process.

    66. Senator Warren. General Brown and General Saltzman, please 
provide photos of this requirement for visual aid.
    General Brown. To address the series of questions regarding the Air 
Force's unfunded priorities list, Attachment 1 (please see Appendix) 
has been developed to provide responses to each of the questions.
    General Saltzman. N/A.

            sexual assault in the air force and space force
    67. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, I am 
deeply concerned and disturbed that reports of sexual assault in the 
Air Force increased by 13 percent in fiscal year 2022 and is at the 
highest level in the history of the Air Force Sexual Assault Prevention 
and Response program. What recommendations from Independent Review 
Commission on Sexual Assault is the Air Force implementing and when 
does it expect implementation to be complete?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. We are implementing all the 
recommendations of the IRC. The Department of the Air Force's IRC Task 
Force convenes monthly to track the status of the 47 IRC requirements 
that are in progress with no issues; seven have been completed to date 
and are listed below:

      1.6--Expedite processing of proposed Executive Orders 
regarding military justice, including those currently awaiting issuance 
related to sexual assault, sexual harassment, and other special victim 
crimes.

      1.7c--The Joint Service Committee on Military Justice has 
drafted a proposed Executive Order to establish a preponderance of the 
evidence standard for non-judicial punishment.

      2.2b--USD(P&R) should develop a professional credential 
for the prevention workforce.

      2.5a--The Services and the NGB should institute a pilot 
program to link servicemembers with resources and support.

      3.4a--Elevate and standardize the gender advisor 
workforce

      4.1c--Explore the co-location of SAPR and SHARP with 
other special victim services, such as FAP, to improve coordination, 
collaboration and consistency in victim support.

      4.2e--Amplify victims' rights and services in the post-
trial period.

    By the end of 2023, we will have 31 recommendations completed, with 
eight additional recommendations completed in 2024, and the remaining 
recommendations on track to being completed through 2028.
    Our primary initiative is a significant investment in creating 
sustainable integrated prevention and response workforce structures. 
DAF is adding 324 prevention personnel, 197 victim advocates and an 
Independent Office of Special Trial Counsel (IOSTC). Together, they 
will drive data-informed, evidence-based and victim/survivor centered 
decisions. Meaningful change relies on a complex systems approach with 
robust evaluation and analysis efforts to identify root causes, 
intended outcomes, and effectively address individual and systematic 
harms. The IRC lines of effort inform DAF strategies and sexual assault 
prevention and response priorities, engaging a holistic and multi-
disciplinary approach to address sexual assault.

    68. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, the Government 
Accountability Office released a report in March 2022 on ``Sexual 
Assault: DOD and Coast Guard Should Ensure Laws Are Implemented to 
Improve Oversight of Key Prevention and Response Efforts.'' The 
recommendations for the report included (1) the Secretary of the Air 
Force ensuring all required information is included in the annual 
reports; (2) the Secretary of the Air Force reviewing and updating 
guidance and setting a timeframe for the completion of requirements 
relating to command climate information required under Section 508 of 
the fiscal year 2015 NDAA; (3) ensuring compliance with Section 535(a)-
(b) of the fiscal year 2018 NDAA; and (4) ensuring that the 
Superintendent of the Air Force takes steps to document actions taken 
in accordance with Section545(a)-(c) of the fiscal year 2019 NDAA. I 
appreciate that DOD has concurred with these recommendations. Please 
provide an update on their status and expected time of completion.
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF has completed all corrective action 
plans pertaining to the GAO recommendations: (1) the DAF developed an 
internal NDAA tracking mechanism that ensures that the annual report 
includes all of the required information and adds any missing 
requirements, if necessary (Completed July 1, 2022); (2) Command 
climate information was added back into DAFI 36-2406, Officer and 
Enlisted Evaluations and commander's evaluation require a statement 
regarding whether the commander has conducted the required command 
climate assessments (Completed March 16, 2022); (3) Air Education and 
Training Command developed training that included sexual assault 
response, prevention, and instruction on the proper use of social media 
to all enlisted members under the delayed entry program (Completed 
December 1, 2022); and finally, the Superintendent of the United States 
Air Force Academy has put processes in place to ensure dissemination of 
the SAPR Resource Guide (completed April 15, 2022).

    69. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, in the 
sexual assault cases that DOD received in fiscal year 2022, out of the 
unrestricted reports that were filed commanders only had ``sufficient 
evidence to take disciplinary action in 66 percent of the accused 
members' cases.'' What were the challenges to gathering sufficient 
evidence, and what steps are the Air Force and Space Force taking to 
address these gaps?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. There are a number of reasons 
why a case may not have sufficient evidence to proceed to trial by 
court-martial. Victims may not wish to engage with a criminal 
investigation or participate in a court-martial proceeding and, by DOD 
and DAF policy, the victim's preference is respected to the maximum 
extent possible. Even with victim participation, the lack of 
corroborating evidence, the presence of contradictory testimonial, 
documentary, or digital evidence, or presence of affirmative defenses 
may also preclude the government's ability to secure and sustain a 
conviction.
    While the DAF can and does take challenging cases to trial, the 
interests of justice and the well-being of all parties are best served 
by declining to prosecute when the evidence is insufficient to obtain 
and sustain a conviction. In some cases, accused individuals may be 
punished for related misconduct by lesser forms of discipline when the 
State of the evidence does not warrant trial by court-martial for 
sexual assault.
    Steps:
    The DAF endeavors to reduce barriers to victim participation 
through a range of initiatives.
    The DAF has instituted a ``Safe to Report'' policy whereby sexual 
assault victims are shielded from punishment for minor misconduct they 
may have committed related to an incident of sexual assault (e.g., 
underage drinking).
    Additionally, the DAF has implemented a ``No Wrong Door'' policy, 
(an IRC recommendation) ensuring that victims will receive a warm 
handoff between helping agencies after a report of sexual assault. This 
policy is intended to ensure continuity of care and minimize the number 
of times a victim must recount their story.
    Finally, the DAF provides Victims' Counsel as soon as possible 
after the report of a qualifying offense, ensuring victims receive 
independent and confidential legal advice throughout the entirety of 
the military justice process. Endearing trust with victims encourages 
early reporting, which allows criminal investigators to obtain and 
preserve forensic evidence that is often critical for successful 
prosecutions of sexual assault cases.
    The DAF as of 1 July 2023 has stood up the Office of Special Trial 
Counsel (OSTC), which is comprised of the DAF's most experienced and 
specialized prosecutors. They will guide investigations of certain 
victim-centric offenses and serve as the lead prosecutor when such 
offenses go to trial. The OSTC will implement Investigation and 
Prosecution Support Teams (IPST), which are designed to integrate 
senior prosecutors with investigators and installation judge advocates 
at the inception of an investigation to increase the discovery of 
corroborating evidence. Through the use of IPST, the DAF aims to 
enhance criminal investigations and victims' trust in the process.

    70. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Saltzman, the percentage of sexual assault reports that remain 
restricted has been increasing since fiscal year 2017 and almost 45 
percent of reports remained restricted at the end of fiscal year 2022. 
What trainings does Air Force and Space Force provide to commanders and 
servicemembers regarding supporting a command climate that supports 
reporting on sexual assault and creates a zero-tolerance climate for 
sexual misconduct?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Saltzman. The DAF 
mandates Initial Wingman Intervention Training (IWIT), which is a 
mandatory foundational course focused on the prevention of sexual 
assault, sexual harassment and domestic violence. The course is 
required for all airmen and guardians, to include newly hired 
civilians, at their first duty station and/or accessions training. This 
60-minute module is designed to equip participants with the necessary 
skills to establish positive norms and develop wingman intervention 
behaviors. After this initial training, airmen and guardians receive 
mandatory annual training to address sexual assault and sexual 
harassment prevention.
    As airmen and guardians progress in their careers, the DAF ensures 
our members are receiving relevant education and training at each 
stage. In each of the DAF's Professional Military Education (PME) 
courses, to include accessions schools, learning objectives are 
designed to provide prevention and response skills and knowledge and is 
tailored to the individual's responsibilities and rank. Additionally, 
based on IRC requirement 4.4c, the DAF is updating PME by September 
2025 to ensure leaders are equipped to deliver informed prevention 
messages in formal and informal settings, training that better 
resonates with today's airmen and guardians, and education on cyber--
harassment and technology-facilitated sexual harassment and sexual 
assault.
    Commanders at all levels (MAJCOM/FLDCOM, Wing, Delta, Group, and 
Squadron) receive individual and group training from SAPR personnel 
which addresses response, victim advocacy services, and tools for 
creating environments that are supportive of sexual assault reporting.
    Additionally, Article 137(c), UCMJ, requires that all new 
commanders receive training on certain aspects of military justice. By 
service regulation, the Article 137 training covers the role of 
commanders in all states of military justice in connection with sexual 
assault. This includes training on ensuring sexual assault victims are 
protected from the offender, can obtain all available assistance, and 
are protected against retaliation for reporting. It also includes 
specific training on the role of commanders in maintaining a healthy 
command climate in connection with reporting sexual assault.

    71. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Saltzman, I am alarmed by the gap between servicemembers reports to DOD 
and the number of servicemembers who experienced unwanted sexual 
contact according to surveys. What protocol does the Air Force and 
Space Force follow if commanders do not take action toward a report if 
a commander was told about an incident of sexual assault, sexual 
harassment, or other sexual misconduct?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Saltzman. Commanders 
are bound by DAF policy to take affirmative action to ensure 
investigation and disposition for every report of sexual assault, 
sexual harassment, and other sexual misconduct is taken in accordance 
with DOD policy and the law. Commanders who fail to fulfill their 
obligations, whether imposed by statute or policy, are subject to 
potential administrative discipline, up to and including punitive 
action, for dereliction of duty under the Uniform Code of Military 
Justice, as well as potential removal from command.
    Likewise, Commanders are also obligated to ensure victims of these 
crimes are protected from retaliation. Retaliation against any person 
for reporting a criminal offense is specifically actionable under 
Article 132, UCMJ.

    72. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Saltzman, there are concerns regarding incidents of sexual assault 
being linked to incidents of hazing within the military. What steps is 
the Air Force and Space Force taking to prevent hazing incidents and 
how many incidents of hazing did the Air Force and Space Force find 
during fiscal year 2022?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General Saltzman. In fiscal 
year 2022, there were 17 (16 Air Force and 1 Space Force) complaints of 
hazing that were processed though the DAF Equal Opportunity (EO) 
Office. Any allegation of hazing that includes a sexual assault 
component, would be reported as a sexual assault rather than hazing. 
The Department of Defense Sexual Assault Incident Data base (DSAID) 
does not have a mechanism to identify these allegations separate from 
the sexual assault.
    The DAF EO Program provides awareness-based training on harassment, 
to include hazing, for servicemembers and civilian employees at their 
first permanent duty assignment and as a refresher training at each of 
their subsequent duty stations. These trainings provide information 
about the DAF EO Program, definitions of unlawful and prohibited 
discrimination and harassment (including hazing), and complaint 
processes. Commanders (installation, group, squadron) and senior 
enlisted leaders, including Space Force equivalents, also receive a key 
personnel briefing that addresses specific leadership roles and 
responsibilities within the EO program, complaint processes, and 
identified command climate trends at their local level.

    73. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman, how 
many of these hazing incidents involved elements of sexual assault or 
harassment?
    Secretary Kendall and General Saltzman. Of the fiscal year 2022 
hazing complaints processed though the DAF EO Office, only one 
complaint involved or referenced elements of sexual assault or sexual 
harassment. Per DOD and DAF policy, sexual assault allegations are not 
handled or investigated by DAF EO and are referred to the military 
criminal investigation organizations for investigation. Any allegation 
of hazing that includes a sexual assault component would be reported as 
a sexual assault rather than hazing. The DOD Sexual Assault Incident 
Data base does not have a mechanism to identify these allegations 
separate from the sexual assault.
                  sexual assault in military academies
    74. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, in the 2021 to 2022 Academic 
Program Year, out of the 155 cadets/midshipmen survivors who reported a 
sexual assault incident during military service, 57 of these were at 
the U.S. Air Force Academy. The total number of formal reports of 
sexual assault that DOD received for this academic year is expected to 
be missing hundreds of unreported incidents, with an anonymous, 
mandatory survey finding that 21.4 percent of female students and 4.4 
percent of male students experienced unwanted sexual conduct in the 
past year. This indicates that over 1,100 students were victims but 
only 14 percent of them reported the incident. How is the Air Force and 
engaging with students to hear further information on reporting 
impediments and what immediate actions is it taking to address a 
climate and culture that causes students to feel they cannot come 
forward?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF and specifically the U.S. Air Force 
Academy (USAFA) are taking several actions to address reporting 
impediments and culture. These efforts will amplify the SecDef actions 
announced this past March when the reports were released. In April 
2023, the USAFA Commandant of Cadets signed and put into place an 
``Encouraged to Report'' policy building off the NDAA-mandated Safe to 
Report policy, (which originated at USAFA). Encouraged to Report 
provides commanders discretion in addressing collateral misconduct for 
cadets who witness a possible sexual assault or report an instance of 
hazing, harassment, or bullying as a witness or victim and hazing. The 
original Safe to Report policy applied to victims of those offenses and 
the updated policy extends consideration for both witnesses and 
bystanders. Last year, USAFA conducted training for commanders, cadets 
and staff about both policies and will continue to train on the policy 
and publicize it. In addition, SAPR personnel and Victims' Counsel 
discuss the policies during their intake process.
    More broadly, over the past months, the USAFA Superintendent 
created the ``Let's Be Clear'' campaign as a culture reset with several 
lines of effort to drive down the prevalence of Sexual Harassment and 
Unwanted Sexual Contact. The design and execution of the ``Let's Be 
Clear'' campaign is based on a cross-functional approach made up of 
external/internal Subject Matter Experts (SMEs), academy leadership, 
and professors, cadets, alumni, etc. to understand the data, cultural 
issues, and chart a way forward focused on improved outcomes.
    Finally, USAFA continues to provide cadet-specific training 
throughout their time at USAFA including, but not limited to: Sexual 
Assault Prevention and Response; Interpersonal and Self-Directed Harm/
Violence Prevention; Bystander Intervention; Diversity, Equity, and 
Inclusion; and Healthy Relationships Education (HRE). HRE teaches the 
dynamics of relationships with parents, roommates, friends, teammates, 
superiors, co-workers, romantic partners etc., to build skills and 
reduce sexual assault and other interpersonal and self-directed harm/
violence risk factors. Training will also include information developed 
in coordination with the Office of Special Trial Counsel, concerning 
the importance of recent military justice reforms and how this impact 
castes and USAFA personnel.

    75. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, this same report found that 
there are decreasing levels of trust among both men and women that the 
military would ``protect their privacy and treat them with `dignity and 
respect' after an alleged incident.'' What protocol does the Air Force 
follow if a commander violated the privacy of the survivor after 
reporting an incident?
    Secretary Kendall. USAFA treats the privacy of any survivor with 
the utmost seriousness, ensuring we take the appropriate steps to guard 
against improper release of information. A commander who violates the 
privacy rights of a survivor is subject to potential administrative 
discipline, up to and including punitive action, for dereliction of 
duty under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as well as potential 
removal from command.

    76. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, is the Air Force aware of 
any instances in the past 10 years of commanders violating the privacy 
of survivors after they reported an incident? What disciplinary actions 
were taken as a result?
    Secretary Kendall. USAFA is unaware of any military criminal report 
or military administrative investigation complaint of a violation of a 
survivor's privacy rights by a commander in the last 10 years.

    77. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, what protocol does the Air 
Force follow if a student has expressed concerns that no action was 
taken even after telling a commander or authority that an incident of 
sexual assault, harassment, or other sexual misconduct has occurred?
    Secretary Kendall. USAFA commanders consider all appropriate 
options before making a disposition decision on an allegation of sexual 
assault in accordance with the Rules for Courts-Martial, Secretary of 
Defense's Non-Binding Disposition Guidance, and applicable service 
regulations. For sexual harassment cases, complaints are processed in 
accordance with 10 U.S.C. Sec.  1561 and Department of Defense 
Instruction 1020.03, Harassment Prevention and Response in the Armed 
Forces.
    In sexual assault cases and certain other sexual misconduct cases, 
survivors also have the option to request civilian authorities with 
jurisdiction review and potentially prosecute their case. In every case 
of sexual assault related offenses, the survivor is notified of this 
option and provides an election regarding whether they would prefer the 
Air Force or civilian authorities to exercise jurisdiction.
    For sexual assault cases, the Staff Judge Advocate advises the 
Special Courts-Martial Convening Authority (SPCMCA), who is the initial 
disposition authority over sexual assaults and certain other sex-
related offenses. If the SPCMCA considers taking no action or 
disposition by means other than a court-martial, the SPCMCA will 
solicit the victim's input before making a final decision. If the 
allegation is not referred to trial by court-martial, other options 
such as a Board of Inquiry, Nonjudicial Punishment, Administrative 
Action, and/or Letter of Notification discharge processes are 
considered. For sexual assault cases, if ``no action'' is taken, this 
information is provided to the Victims' Counsel (if the victim is 
represented) to relay to the survivor and a Judge Advocate from the 
base legal office offers to meets with the survivor to answer any 
questions they might have. SPCMCAs are also required to provide written 
notice of initial disposition of sexual assault offenses to their 
superior general court-martial convening authority (GCMCA) within 30 
days.
    For sexual harassment cases, pursuant to DAF regulations, the 
commander makes final notification of the results of the commander 
directed investigation to the survivor, in writing. The survivor will 
also be notified of the measures taken to resolve the matter, subject 
to applicable privacy laws, regulations, and policies, including the 
Privacy Act of 1974. In addition, the survivor will also be informed of 
the availability of an executive summary of the response to the 
allegation of harassment. If a survivor is unsatisfied with the final 
determination, a request for further review may be made to the command.
    Currently, after the investigation, all sexual assault related, and 
sexual harassment allegations are reviewed by the servicing Staff Judge 
Advocate who advises command on appropriate actions. In accordance with 
Fiscal Year 2022 NDAA, beginning with offenses committed on/after 
December 28, 2023, all sexual assault-related offenses will be reviewed 
by the Office of Special Trial Counsel (OSTC), which is separate from 
the chain of command and reports directly to the Secretary of the Air 
Force. Specially trained attorneys will review cases and make binding 
disposition determinations. Beginning in 2025, OSTC will also have 
exclusive authority to make prosecution decisions concerning formal and 
substantiated reports of sexual harassment.
    Finally, any cadet can ask the next commander in their chain of 
command should they have concerns regarding non-action. This was 
recently addressed by the Commandant of Cadets to the Cadet Wing 
permanent party to re-emphasize the importance and ability for all 
cadets to understand their rights within the chain. The Superintendent 
and Commandant of Cadets are also available to speak with the survivor, 
to answer any questions, and address their concerns.

    78. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, the report found that those 
identifying as ``lesbian, gay, or bisexual cadets and midshipmen were 
significantly more likely to experience unwanted sexual contact than 
their heterosexual peers.'' What steps is the Air Force taking to 
support the LGBTQ+ community in preventing experiences of unwanted 
sexual conduct and what plans does it have to improve this support at 
the U.S. Air Force Academy?
    Secretary Kendall. The USAFA Integrated Prevention and Response 
office is actively engaged with the USAFA Diversity and Inclusion 
office and the Cadet Spectrum (LGBTQ+) club to conduct feedback and 
incorporate the LGBTQ+ perspective in the Sexual Assault and Violence 
Prevention efforts at USAFA. The USAFA Superintendent recently 
conducted a listening session with the cadet LGBTQ+ community to better 
understand the issues and concerns. USAFA leadership is examining 
disparities specifically impacting the LGBTQ+ community of cadets as 
part of USAFA's holistic ``Let's Be Clear'' campaign to reduce sexual 
assault.

    79. Senator Warren. Secretary Kendall, the report also found that 
Hispanic women and men identifying as some other race were ``more at 
risk for unwanted sexual conduct than their Non-Hispanic White peers.'' 
What steps is the Air Force taking to prevent experiences of unwanted 
sexual conduct among communities of color and what plans does it have 
to improve this support at the U.S. Air Force Academy?
    Secretary Kendall. The USAFA Integrated Prevention and Response 
office is actively engaged with the USAFA Diversity and Inclusion 
office to combat unwanted sexual conduct, especially in our communities 
of color. As an example, the Integrated Prevention and Response office 
is actively engaged with the USAFA Diversity and Inclusion office and 
the Cadet Hispanic Heritage Club to conduct feedback and incorporate 
the Hispanic Community perspective in the Sexual Assault and Violence 
Prevention efforts at USAFA. USAFA leadership is examining those 
disparities specifically impacting the Hispanic/Latino cadet community 
of cadets as part of USAFA's holistic ``Let's Be Clear'' campaign to 
reduce sexual assault.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Gary C. Peters
                           pfas contamination
    80. Senator Peters. Secretary Kendall, the former Wurtsmith Air 
Force Base in Oscoda, Michigan is the first DOD installation in the 
country at which PFAS contamination was publicly reported--back in 
2010. In past statements to the local community, Air Force officials 
have expressed reluctance to take swift cleanup actions at Wurtsmith 
for fear of setting precedents at other PFAS-contaminated installations 
around the country. Last August, Air Force officials testified at a 
field hearing that I held in East Lansing, Michigan and committed to 
taking a new direction at Wurtsmith. Will you commit to making 
Wurtsmith a model that demonstrates how PFAS clean-ups are an urgent 
priority for the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. As stated at the August 2022 field hearing, DAF 
is committed to collaborative clean-up with enhanced community 
engagement at the former Wurtsmith AFB. Our partnership with the 
Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes and Energy (EGLE) 
resulted in many successes. We installed multiple pump and treat 
systems to remove PFAS from groundwater and removed PFAS impacted soil 
at a former fire training area. These actions removed approximately 
72lbs of PFAS material. A series of onsite engagements with EGLE, 
Restoration Advisory Board and community members resulted in enhanced 
data sharing and positive feedback.
    Additionally, our 2023 remedial investigation plans include a PFAS 
fingerprinting initiative with Battelle as well as an innovative 
``organo clay-mat'' study at ``three pipes drain'' focused on treating 
impacted groundwater at the groundwater / surface water interface.
    Wurtsmith AFB clean-up is a top priority. We are committed to 
expediting interim remedial actions while maintaining consistency with 
EPA and DOD guidance. The DAF shares your commitment to protecting 
human health and the environment at Wurtsmith, and we look forward to 
working together and continuing our efforts for environmental 
stewardship and building community confidence and trust.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joe Manchin
                 operational energy joint working group
    81. Senator Manchin. General Brown, thank you for speaking with me 
last week. I wanted to followup on the program I mentioned from last 
year's NDAA. Specifically, Section 320, created a Joint Working Group 
for Future Operational Energy Needs of the Department of Defense. This 
joint working group is instructed to limit their investigation to 
energy sources and technologies that only increase our readiness, and 
specifically calls out small nuclear reactors and hydrogen. Is this 
joint working group something you and Secretary Kendall are working 
with your counterparts in the Services and the Secretary of Defense's 
office to complete?
    General Brown. The DAF has been holding bi-weekly working group 
meetings with the other Services and OSD to develop a response that 
addresses the Section 320 language.

    82. Senator Manchin. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, I cannot 
overState the need for energy security of our military installations 
and forces both at home and abroad. In a recent briefing we were told 
that fuel per servicemember had increased almost tenfold between the 
Vietnam War and the Global War on Terror. Can you both commit to making 
the report from this Joint Working Group a top priority?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. Yes, we are committed to 
making this report from the Joint Working Group a priority.

                          space national guard
    83. Senator Manchin. Secretary Kendall, in your testimony to the 
House Armed Services Committee last week, you stated ``the guard 
elements in the Space Force are not going anywhere, they are an 
essential part of the Space Force and we are going to keep them. The 
argument we are having is about what label we are going to put on them. 
They are definitely going to stay''. What are the current options in 
moving these Air National Guard personnel who are conducting space 
missions?
    Secretary Kendall. The CSO recommends enactment of the SFPMA, while 
transferring the ANG missions to the Space Force, without establishing 
a Space National Guard. This ensures unity of command over all 
Department of the Air Force (DAF) space forces, maximizes flexibility 
for organize, train, and equip (OT&E) and operational responsibilities, 
and ensures access to part-time forces for surge capacity. The total 
transfer would be modest.

    84. Senator Manchin. General Saltzman, in your previous testimony 
you have expressed that the Air National Guard space capabilities are 
critical must haves. With regards on how to organize those space 
capabilities, you recommended choosing the option that ``minimizes the 
operational impact in any kind of transition'' and ``maintains the 
operational capabilities that are currently there''. What are the 
estimated costs associated with the two options that you are 
considering? (establishing a space national guard or rebuilding those 
missions in the Space Force)
    General Saltzman. My strongest possible recommendation is to enact 
the SFPMA, while transferring the ANG missions to the Space Force, 
without establishing a Space National Guard. This ensures unity of 
command over all Department of the Air Force (DAF) space forces, 
maximizes flexibility for organize, train, and equip (OT&E) and 
operational responsibilities, and ensures access to part-time forces 
for surge capacity. The total transfer is modest, and was not driven by 
costs.

    85. Senator Manchin. General Saltzman, do both those options 
maintain the same level of readiness for these troops?
    General Saltzman. My strongest possible recommendation is to enact 
the SFPMA, while transferring the ANG missions to the Space Force, 
without establishing a Space National Guard. This ensures unity of 
command over all Department of the Air Force (DAF) space forces, 
maximizes flexibility for organize, train, and equip (OT&E) and 
operational responsibilities, and ensures access to part-time forces 
for surge capacity. The total transfer is modest and would include 734 
positions (of which only 242 are full time) across 6 states and 11 
units. The transfer would also include the resources associated with 
the ANG space missions (funding, billets, equipment, and facilities). I 
would be happy to walk through the resourcing details with you if you 
would like.
               delayed budget and continuing resolutions
    86. Senator Manchin. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and General 
Saltzman, I have repeatedly asked the Pentagon for as concise a number 
as possible to put a figure on the damage these delays are causing to 
our national security, but have so far only received an estimate from 
General Brown in the Air Force who just told me that a Continuing 
Resolution would see the Air Force and Space Force lose $9 billion in 
purchasing power. Can I have each of your commitments to encourage your 
counterparts in the other Services and the Secretary of Defense to get 
Congress as accurate an estimate as possible on the financial impact of 
previous and future continuing resolutions to our national security?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown and General Saltzman. I will 
encourage my counterparts in the other Services and the Secretary of 
Defense to get Congress as accurate an estimate as possible on the 
financial impact of previous and future continuing resolutions.
    The Department will continue to message the impact of Continuing 
Resolutions on our progress in modernization and readiness, while our 
Pacing Challenge faces no such impediment. For fiscal year 2024, the 
Department's lost purchasing power in a year-long CR would be over 
$11.3 billion when accounting for fiscal year 2023s $1.4 billion 
Ukraine supplemental and further exacerbated by potential impacts of a 
1 percent reduction in defense spending limits called for in the Fiscal 
Responsibility Act of 2023.
    We make significant modernization investments in the Operational 
Imperatives in fiscal year 2024. A long-term CR stops 19 efforts, 
costing $4.8 billion, that close key capability gaps, accelerate 
development, and assure U.S. advantage against pacing challenges. It 
hinders investments critical to the high-end fight such as Kill Chain 
Automation, CCA development, Moving Target Engagement and Joint Strike 
Missile. Finally, a long-term CR stalls Space Force acceleration, 
canceling $2.8 billion in new space architectures, survivable, long-
range, persistent sensors and kill chain automation tools necessary for 
the success of the Joint Force in a contested environment.
    DAF's operational success depends on timely congressional action to 
pass a budget.
              cyber integration within air force programs
    87. Senator Manchin. Mr. Kendall, the past few years have 
demonstrated very publicly the threat posed to our critical 
infrastructure from malign cyber actors, and part of that critical 
infrastructure is our defense industrial base. I see that there has 
been a significant increase in the Air Force's cyber defense funding 
request for fiscal year 2024. How does the budget reflect your plans to 
integrate cyber security measures into each new and legacy system 
within the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force has initiated 
action to address cyber security measures identified by mission 
assurance and self-initiated assessments. The funding request is 
indicative of the needs to address the areas identified and to update 
our review standards and procedures for legacy system maintenance, 
upgrades, and replacement as appropriate. We have also put requirements 
into new systems to integrate into enterprise cybersecurity systems, 
and for legacy to upgrade their measures (IT infrastructure, crypto, 
etc.) as appropriate.
                         cybersecurity posture
    88. Senator Manchin. General Brown, there has been a considerable 
increase in the fiscal year 2024 Air Force budget request in cyber 
defense funding compared to the enacted budget in fiscal year 2023. Can 
you go into detail on how this significant increase in cyber defense 
funding will improve the Air Force's cybersecurity posture?
    General Brown. The requested plus up in Defensive Cyber funding in 
fiscal year 2024 provides urgently needed defensive cyber capabilities 
to Department of the Air Force operators and provides key cyberspace 
situational awareness to local Commanders and Higher Headquarters.
    The funding develops a cloud-based, containerized, integrated 
capability including modular interoperable sensors for collecting, 
transporting and analyzing relevant data from information systems, 
weapon systems, and control systems for enhanced situational awareness 
and cyberspace defense.
    The new resulting Defensive Cyber architecture provides common data 
availability and increased interoperability between Cybersecurity 
Service Provider, Security Operations Center, Cyber Protection and 
Mission Defense Team operators, enabling data integration, increased 
automation, more efficient training pipeline and modular, common 
Hardware/Software for efficient sustainment.

    89. Senator Manchin. General Brown, in your testimony you mention 
``MeshOne'' that is a $151 million effort to modernize and secure the 
Joint Force Wide Area Network, do you believe this system will 
strengthen our cybersecurity posture enough to give us an edge against 
our adversary's attacks in the coming future?
    General Brown. Yes, the meshONE program will strengthen our 
cybersecurity posture to the level required by our adversaries. As part 
of the DAF BATTLE NETWORK, meshONE integrates zero trust capabilities, 
network redundancy, and mission prioritization, which are all key to 
operating in a contested and degraded environment. The design mirrors 
that of our existing cybersecurity units, enabling integration into 
USCYBERCOM defensive cyber operations.
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             Questions Submitted by Senator Tammy Duckworth
                              force design
    90. Senator Duckworth. Secretary Kendall, General Brown, and 
General Saltzman, I'm concerned that, without an explicit roadmap for 
force design, your two Services may be at a disadvantage. The Congress 
relishes an opportunity to advocate for and support modernization 
efforts for the Air Force and Space Force. I find these efforts 
difficult however when the Services' future force design and force 
presentation goals are opaque. Can the Services provide a brief (up to 
TS) for me and my staff to better understand the end goal for force 
design?
    Secretary Kendall, General Brown and General Saltzman. Yes. We 
welcome the opportunity to brief you on the force design guidance, 
concepts, and attributes the Air Force and Space Force have developed 
to maintain a competitive advantage, as well as the associated process 
and analyses informing that work.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Jacky Rosen
                        c-130j recapitalization
    91. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, the Nevada Air National 
Guard's 152d Airlift Wing in Reno flies its legacy C-130's in some of 
the hottest temperatures, highest elevations, and in the most 
challenging mountainous environments of any C-130 unit. Critical to 
their mission is flying the Modular Airborne Fire Fighting System 
(MAFFS) in support of the U.S. Forest Service. Upgrading the Nevada Air 
National Guard's C-130H fleet with C-130Js would have a substantial 
impact on their readiness and firefighting capabilities in Nevada and 
the western United States, where every year we are plagued by 
devastating wildland fires. I appreciate your commitment to me to 
update the basing criteria to now include specialty missions like MAFFS 
and am excited that Reno is under consideration for the latest round of 
basing decisions. Can I have your commitment to work with me to ensure 
that the 152d Airlift Wing receives C-130Js so that it can better carry 
out its dangerous firefighting mission in Nevada and throughout the 
western United States?
    Secretary Kendall. Reno is one of four Air Reserve Component units 
that performs the firefighting mission. The 152d Airlift Wing has been 
critical to the U.S. Forest Service and the interagency wildland fire 
management community, broadly. We appreciate the hard work and 
dedication of the men and women of the 152d in performing this mission.
    Regarding the C-130J, the Air Force currently has a basing action 
to recapitalize four Air National Guard C-130H squadrons with eight 
aircraft each. The 152d Airlift Wing at Reno, NV is one of eight 
candidate locations, and as a C-130H unit performing the firefighting 
mission it will be given additional consideration under ``Mission 
Criteria.'' The candidate locations for this basing action were 
approved in March 2023, and I am committed to ensuring the 152d Airlift 
Wing receives due credit for performing this special mission.
    I look forward to working with you as this action moves through the 
strategic basing process.
                 commuting assistance for creech airmen
    92. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, I'd like to ask about a 
problem facing airmen stationed at Creech Air Force Base and 
servicemembers stationed at other rural or remote installations who 
have to commute many miles to base from where they live. Creech has 
very limited housing nearby, so the vast majority of airmen live in Las 
Vegas, which is about 45 miles away. It's an even longer commute for 
those who have to drop off their kids at the child development center 
or utilize other services at Nellis Air Force Base, which is on the 
opposite end of town. Does the Department of the Air Force have the 
existing authorities to provide these airmen with a gas stipend or 
something similar to make their commute less expensive as they deal 
with rising costs? Or is this something the services would need help 
from Congress to address?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department has various mechanisms to 
compensate individuals for their assignment location. For example, 
potential assignment incentive pay or other pays (e.g.-increased Basic 
Allowance for Subsistence) if warranted based upon specific 
circumstances. With respect to this specific location, Nellis AFB does 
provide daily round trip shuttle bus service from Nellis to Creech AFB. 
There is no current authority to provide a gas stipend or other type of 
transportation allowance for the purpose of routine commuting from a 
member's home to their duty location. This would require congressional 
support if pursued.
              nevada test and training range modernization
    93. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, Nevada is 
proud to host the ``Crown Jewel'' of the Air Force, the Nevada Test and 
Training Range, which provides the largest air and ground military 
training space in the lower 48 for testing and evaluation of weapons 
systems, tactics development, and advanced air combat training--without 
interference from commercial aircraft. The Air Force has identified 
NTTR modernization as one of its top priorities to ensure our high-end 
training keeps pace with current and emerging threats and capabilities. 
Each of you has emphasized the escalating threat from China to the U.S. 
military, especially as you continue to modernize the Air Force. Can 
you discuss the importance of modernizing the Nevada Test & Training 
Rang for training our fighter pilots to meet the threats identified by 
the National Defense Strategy?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. DOD capabilities and those of 
peer, near-peer, and potential adversaries are advancing at a rate that 
challenges our ability to provide relevant and realistic training. We 
must maintain a qualitative advantage through superior training in 
multi-domain, full-spectrum employment. It is a DAF imperative to train 
as we intend to fight by constructing a relevant training environment 
that allows weapon systems and operators to interact in a highly 
dynamic, realistic manner including multi-domain command and control.
    We are modernizing the Nevada Test and Training Range (NTTR) to 
enable warfighters to train for the peer fight in an all-domain 
contested environment against relevant and realistic threats with 
training assets that can be continually upgraded at the pace of our 
adversaries.
    The Department has substantial, planned investments during the next 
FYDP to sustain, modernize, and add training infrastructure to achieve 
this capability in the 2030 timeframe. The effort establishes 
requirements for threats, targets, adversary air, multi-domain 
integration, and airspace capable of providing training to counter a 
peer adversary.

      Advanced Digital Array based Class Representative Threats

      Non-proprietary open architecture threat systems

      Software defined solutions allow iterative/evolutionary 
equipment use

      C, S, X, UHF, VHF, L, KU, KA, and Long Wave Infrared 
Bands

      Next Generation Airborne Instrumentation Pods (P6 Combat 
Training System)

      Live Mission Operations Capability (LMOC)

      Multi-range Distributed Integrated Air Defense System

    One critical need to execute the modernization plan at NTTR is the 
passage of Legislative Proposal 404 which clarifies and allows the 
Department of Defense to conduct specific activities at NTTR. These 
activities include emergency response, gravel equipment pads that would 
be used to hold mobile threat emitters to better train to the pacing 
threat, and use and maintenance of existing roads to allow for the 
placement and movement of the threat emitters. The provision would also 
clarify the membership and role of the Interagency Committee and 
Intergovernmental Executive Committee, which are both integral to the 
safe modernization of NTTR.
    The DAF is approaching Operational Training and Test Infrastructure 
at NTTR holistically across all domains and spectrums in the 
modernization of NTTR to replicate a peer adversary environment, to 
include development of the Nellis Virtual Test and Training Center 
(VTTC) for level 4+ high-end advanced training and tactics development 
in the synthetic environment. AF is integrating the Joint Simulation 
Environment, a simulation environment for test and training, into the 
VTTC. This will enable 5th Gen warfighters the capability to present 
complex, multi-domain, peer-adversary scenarios for integrated 
warfighter training, tactics development, and capability tests.
    Most of the infrastructure required for Level 4, including version 
1 of the Advanced Radar Threat System (ARTS), will be in place by 
fiscal year 2026. The final step to achieving Level 4 is fielding the 
ARTS v3. While the ARTS v3 will provide significantly greater 
capability, it is not projected to field until 8fiscal year 2030.
    The Department also recognizes that an airspace expansion is 
required at NTTR to fully achieve Threat Matrix Framework Level 4 
training. An analysis is ongoing to determine airspace requirement 
shortfalls and assess impacts with a simultaneous effort to 
conceptualize a potential expansion. Efforts to expand the airspace 
normally takes 5+ years and in this instance will prove more 
challenging since FAA heavily uses the airspace surrounding NTTR.

    94. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, the fiscal year 21 NDAA 
authorized the establishment of Intergovernmental Executive Committees 
(IEC) to help facilitate the exchange of views, information, and advice 
relating to the management of resources at NTTR with Federal, State, 
local, and tribal stakeholders. Can you speak to the Air Force's 
efforts to advance the NTTR modernization plan through the IECs? For 
example, what has worked and what hasn't when using the IECs as a forum 
to resolve differences with stakeholders?
    Secretary Kendall. The USAF recently used this forum to brief 
tribes and stakeholders on the NTTR's modernization needs and 
requirements and will continue to do so, taking into consideration the 
opinions, concerns, and knowledge of various stakeholders to ensure 
natural and cultural resources are part of the USAF's proposal shaping 
and decisionmaking.
    Participants at the April 4, 2023, IEC meeting included staff from 
your office, the Center for Biological Diversity, Friends of Nevada 
Wilderness, and the Fraternity of the Desert Bighorn. Through 
coordination in the IEC, the Friends of Nevada Wilderness, expressed 
thanks for the USAF sharing its proposal and expressed their interest 
in finding a way forward that addresses USAF's needs and 
congressionally designates the proposed wilderness in the Desert 
National Wildlife Refuge. The Friends of Nevada Wilderness offered to 
``help this process move forward so that there can be a win for 
everyone.''
    Although this is a positive note and the IEC does provide a venue 
for NGO's, tribes and others to contribute to the shaping of USAF 
proposals, the IEC is not a decisionmaking body.
    We regularly invite the non-governmental members, but we do not 
have authority to mandate participation. Therefore, all tribes with 
equity are regularly consulted and coordinated with through Nellis 
AFB's Tribal Meetings and through Government-to-Government consultation 
to ensure we engage with these important stakeholders.
    Last, the IEC does provide an additional venue to have 
reinforcement discussions on topics such as cultural and natural 
resources management and consultation under the National Environmental 
Policy Act.

    95. Senator Rosen. Secretary Kendall, do you think there are other 
forums that could be better utilized to find innovate solutions to 
existing NTTR land management issues?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF is currently involved in several forums 
that address land management issues at the NTTR. These include the 
Intergovernmental Executive Committee (IEC), Interagency Committee 
(IC), the Nevada Joint Military Affairs Committee (JMAC), and the 
Civilian Military Council (CMC). These bodies are comprised of 
representatives from DOD, DOI, tribal governments, State agencies, 
civilian organizations, and the public.
    The DAF does not believe additional forums are necessary to 
effectively manage land at the NTTR, but the DAF is working with and 
through stakeholders to strengthen existing forums, particularly the 
IEC and the IC, to enhance their membership and utility. As these 
bodies are congressionally mandated, we look forward to working with 
Congress on these initiatives.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Mark Kelly
                   space national guard/reserve costs
    96. Senator Kelly. General Saltzman, you have testified before 
HASC, SASC, and SAC-D about the critical capabilities that are provided 
by Air National Guard members supporting the space mission. While I 
understand that the Space Force is still evaluating the best course of 
action for organizing Air National Guard members, what are the 
estimated costs for each of your courses of action?
    General Saltzman. My strongest possible recommendation is to enact 
the SFPMA, while transferring the ANG missions to the Space Force, 
without establishing a Space National Guard. This ensures unity of 
command over all Department of the Air Force (DAF) space forces, 
maximizes flexibility for organize, train, and equip (OT&E) and 
operational responsibilities, and ensures access to part-time forces 
for surge capacity. The total transfer is modest, and was not driven by 
costs.

    97. Senator Kelly. General Saltzman, of the options you are 
considering for organizing the Air National Guard space capabilities, 
do either of the courses of action you are considering have a loss or 
degradation of mission capability?
    General Saltzman. My strongest possible recommendation is to enact 
the SFPMA, while transferring the ANG missions to the Space Force, 
without establishing a Space National Guard. This ensures unity of 
command over all Department of the Air Force (DAF) space forces, 
maximizes flexibility for organize, train, and equip (OT&E) and 
operational responsibilities, and ensures access to part-time forces 
for surge capacity. The total transfer is modest and would include 734 
positions (of which only 242 are full time) across 6 states and 11 
units. The transfer would also include the resources associated with 
the ANG space missions (funding, billets, equipment, and facilities). I 
would be happy to walk through the resourcing details with you if you 
would like.
                                  pfas
    98. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall, the EPA has issued a new 
proposed drinking water standard for six PFAS chemicals. What steps 
will the Air Force take to comply with these new standards?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force (DAF) supports 
EPA's recent actions to propose a regulatory drinking water standard 
for PFAS that, once promulgated, will apply to all drinking water 
suppliers, including DOD. The Department respects and values the public 
comment process on this proposed rule and looks forward to the clarity 
that a final nationwide standard will provide. We are reviewing 
existing data and conducting additional sampling where necessary on and 
off our installations, to prepare to implement the EPA's drinking water 
standard once it is promulgated. We continue to invest in the research 
and development of new technologies to accelerate clean-up of PFAS and 
reduce costs.

    99. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall, will Air National Guard 
facilities with national missions follow the same steps to comply with 
these new standards as Air Force facilities? If not, how do they 
differ?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes, the Air National Guard facilities will 
follow the same steps as the DAF to comply with the new Maximum 
Contaminant Levels once finalized.

    100. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall, how many Air Force bases are 
their own purveyor of drinking water for servicemembers?
    Secretary Kendall. As of May 19, 2023 the Air Force has 389 
drinking water systems. This number includes both regulated and 
unregulated systems and changes based on mission and infrastructure.

    101. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall, how will the Air Force 
address contaminated wells in nearby defense communities where PFAS 
levels exceed the new drinking water standards?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF will respond in the same manner we did 
for private wells that exceeded the EPA's lifetime health advisory of 
70 parts per trillion, individually or combined for PFOS/PFOA. We will 
investigate private wells and take action if concentrations exceed the 
promulgated maximum contaminant level for the applicable compound. 
Actions could include providing bottled water, a home or sink 
filtration system, or connection to a municipal water system.

    102. Senator Kelly. Secretary Kendall, how will Air Force bases 
incorporate these new standards into clean up plans at bases undergoing 
remediation?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department is reviewing existing data and 
conducting additional sampling, where necessary, to prepare to 
implement the EPA's final drinking water standard once promulgated. We 
remain committed to fulfilling our cleanup responsibilities under the 
Federal cleanup laws and based on recent data from our ongoing 
investigations, will implement interim actions as necessary to address 
PFAS impacts to drinking water.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Tom Cotton
                               munitions
    103. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, are there additional 
actions Congress can take to support your expansion of munitions 
production? Is there any excess capacity on the AMRAAM or AIM-9 
production lines?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF appreciates the support in our efforts 
to expand munitions production. This year's budget request shows a 
renewed commitment to munitions procurement throughout the FYDP by the 
Department. There are no additional actions necessary to support that 
expansion.
    AMRAAM would be at maximum production rate if the fiscal year 2024 
DON and USAF President's Budgets are fully funded (includes potential 
Foreign Military Sales). AMRAAM is entering a multiyear procurement 
contract and is planned to be at maximum quantity for fiscal year 2024 
to fiscal year 2027 which makes plus-ups or reductions in those years 
impractical.
    The DON is the lead service for AIM-9X procurement. We understand 
they are working to increase AIM-9X capacity.
                                  cca
    104. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, we've heard some express 
concern about a lack of munitions for CCA, with some going so far as to 
claim that CCAs would ``compound our missile problem.'' Does the 
manufacturing of CCAs in any way negatively impact the production of 
munitions?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force is committed to quickly increasing 
the depth of the munitions inventory by continuing the efforts started 
in fiscal year 2023 and evidenced in the Fiscal Year 2024 President's 
Budget Request. While the Air Force has not yet started to manufacture 
CCA, we do not anticipate that it would negatively impact the 
production of munitions once it does begin.

    105. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, would unarmed CCAs enhance 
the mission effectiveness and survivability of manned platforms?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force (DAF) envisions 
CCA to span a range of cost, capabilities, and missions as the 
technologies mature over time. The crewed platforms' mission 
effectiveness and survivability when teamed with CCA provide commanders 
with significant operational flexibility. Further details are available 
via classified channels.

    106. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, what impacts do you assess 
delayed funding for CCAs would have on U.S. deterrence and combat 
capability in the late 2020s?
    Secretary Kendall. General Douglas MacArthur said, ``military 
failure can almost always be summarized in just two words: `Too late.' 
'' Time is an asset that can never be recovered or replaced. Delayed 
funding for CCA would delay our ability to add the strategic depth to 
our fighter inventory that can effectively deter, and if necessary, 
defeat our pacing competition. For example, we need on time fiscal year 
2024 funding to stand up the Experimental Operations Unit (EOU) and 
begin the Viper Experimentation and Next-gen Operations Model (VENOM) 
effort. These fiscal year 2024 New Starts are critical to working the 
tactics, techniques, and procedures (TTPs) and CONOPS necessary to 
deploy CCA capability on our accelerated timeline.

    107. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, with the Navy also working 
on CCAs is there any coordination for interoperability of these 
platforms with the Navy?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF and the Department of the Navy (DON) are 
in close communication on CCA and plan to leverage common mission 
systems, architectures, datalinks, and other technologies to ensure 
interoperability across the Services.

    108. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, what is the extent and 
status of that coordination? Is any joint testing planned to help 
expedite CCA development and fielding?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF and the Department of the Navy (DON) are 
finalizing a partnership agreement that will outline the specifics of 
the two Services' coordination on CCA development and fielding. The DAF 
plans to initiate a new effort called the Experimental Operations Unit 
(EOU) (This is a New Start effort in the Fiscal Year 2024 President's 
Budget Request). The EOU will explore areas such as updates to 
doctrine, organizational structure, training, force structure and 
integration, basing requirements, sustainment concepts, and other non-
materiel categories. We expect the EOU to learn and operate existing 
uncrewed air vehicles alongside the USN and the Royal Australian Air 
Force to develop tactics, techniques, procedures, and standard 
operating procedures. This early learning will help inform CCA 
development and fielding.

                                  e-7
    109. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, last year you stated that 
``there are things that we could do . . . to maybe get access to E-7 
aircraft earlier one way or another.'' Boeing executives at the 
Farnborough International Airshow last year stated that their company 
was ``ready and willing to accelerate the Wedgetail schedule'' ahead of 
the 2027 timeline. Congress provided a $200 million congressional add 
to specifically accelerate the delivery of initial E-7s. With that 
money having been provided to Boeing, has Boeing been able to realize 
any of the advertised acceleration to their initial E-7 delivery 
schedule? If yes, when is the first E-7 now assessed to be delivered? 
If not, how is the service ensuring accountability for those funds not 
achieving their stated purpose?
    Secretary Kendall. While the Air Force still expects the first E-7 
prototype aircraft to deliver in 4QFY27, the fiscal year 2023 
congressional adds acceleration of requirements, engineering, and 
design work has reduced schedule and supply chain risk while offering 
the potential for additional risk reduction.
    The fiscal year 2023 congressional add enabled the DAF to send 
Boeing a Pre-Contract Cost Authorization in September 2022. With that 
letter in hand, Boeing leaned forward hiring personnel 6-months early 
to support proposal preparations and contract award. Specific benefits 
of those actions included:

      Ordered long-lead items for two E-7A Rapid Prototyping 
aircraft 5-months earlier than otherwise possible.

      Pulled the System Requirements Review (SRR) and System 
Functional Review (SFR) 3-months left from July 2023 to April 2023. 
Both SRR and SFR were held within 43-days of contract award.

      Began Software (SW) development. First SW capability 
demonstration and program increment (PI) conducted 6-months earlier 
than otherwise possible.

      Started SW co-development 6-months earlier than otherwise 
possible.

      First iterative design review (Preliminary Design Review-
like event) will be held in June 2023, 3-months earlier than original 
date (September 2023).

      Boeing awarded contract with Northrop Grumman and Collins 
3-months earlier than otherwise possible.

    For fiscal year 2024, an opportunity exists to expedite the 
fielding of the first two production E-7As. This was presented in the 
fiscal year 2024 E-7A Unfunded Priority List (UPL). If the UPL is 
funded, long-lead items for two E-7A production aircraft would begin 
production in fiscal year 2024 pulling delivery on those first two 
production tails into fiscal year 2028. On the baseline plan, the first 
two production aircraft will deliver in fiscal year 2029 and fiscal 
year 2030.

    110. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, in February you met with 
top British defense officials and discussed accelerating E-7 test and 
evaluation through joint testing using the U.K. E-7. Are there plans to 
leverage U.K. E-7s to expedite test and evaluation of the E-7?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes. The Air Force is working closely with both 
the UK and Australia to leverage existing data and to collaborate in 
ongoing testing, training, exercises, and operations to expedite the 
test and evaluation portion of the E-7A acquisition program.

    111. Senator Cotton. Are there any other steps being taken by the 
department to expedite the E-7 as a fielded capability?
    Secretary Kendall. The Air Force is executing an aggressive rapid 
prototyping acquisition strategy as its baseline plan and is 
continuously evaluating opportunities for additional schedule savings. 
For fiscal year 2024, an opportunity exists to expedite the fielding of 
the first two production E-7As. This opportunity was presented in the 
fiscal year 2024 E-7A Unfunded Priority List (UPL). If the UPL is 
funded, long-lead items for two E-7A production aircraft would begin 
production in fiscal year 2024 pulling delivery on those first two 
production tails into fiscal year 2028. On the baseline plan, the first 
two production aircraft will deliver in fiscal year 2029 and fiscal 
year 2030. Additionally, to expedite our operational capability once 
USAF E-7s are delivered, the Air Force is leveraging the Military 
Personnel Exchange Program with the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) 
E-7A Wedgetail program to build a foundation of operations and 
maintenance knowledge to accelerate a smooth transition from the E-3 to 
E-7. From fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2026, the Air Force is 
sending 25 operators (Pilots, Electronic Warfare Officers, Air Battle 
Managers) and 25 maintenance personnel (mix of Crew Chiefs, Avionics, 
Radar, and Computer) to train and fully integrate with the RAAF for 3 
years. The Air Force plans to repeat this process from fiscal year 2027 
to fiscal year 2030 with a different pool of personnel.
                         acquisition timelines
    112. Senator Cotton. Secretary Kendall, you brought up the concept 
of ``Too Late''--A DARPA study showed that Test and Evaluation times 
have ballooned over 1000 percent since the 70's and is the largest 
source of timeline growth in fielding new systems. I applaud the 
department's aggressive stance on digital engineering to decrease 
production times but with the urgent need to modernize our current 
systems and field the next generation of aircraft as quickly as 
possible--what steps is the Department taking to decrease Test and 
Evaluation times not just for future systems but also in modernizing 
current systems?
    Secretary Kendall. Weapon systems of 50 years ago were orders of 
magnitude less complicated. Hardware and software were far simpler than 
their modern counterparts, and contemporary challenges like robust 
cross-system integration and the cyber domain did not exist. These 
dramatic increases in complexity have driven the Air Force to 
fundamentally reevaluate how we view and execute Test. To provide a 
coherent and enduring path that builds on improvements already made, 
the Air Force has begun an initiative termed ``Accelerate Test or 
Lose.'' This initiative will explore how to leverage best practices in 
digital engineering, modeling and simulation, and digital ranges to 
accelerate development and delivery of safe, reliable, and sustainable 
capability to the war fighter. While currently still in progress, the 
``Accelerate Test or Lose'' initiative has uncovered several potential 
changes with high impacts to fielding capabilities faster. The Air 
Force will begin implementation of easy change/high-impact options as 
early as late fiscal year 2023.
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               Questions Submitted by Senator Joni Ernst
                           b-21 requirements
    113. Senator Ernst. General Brown, would you agree that DOD should 
reevaluate its B-21 requirement upward of 100 bombers?
    General Brown. The fiscal year 2024 budget proposal supports both 
the B-21 program and B-52 modernization, to realize our currently 
planned bomber force of 100 B-21s and 75 B-52s. As we approach force 
structure decision points in future budgets, the Air Force will 
continue to assess the strategic environment to inform our long-range 
strike capacity investments.
                          nuclear bomber alert
    114. Senator Ernst. General Brown, do you have high confidence that 
Air Force nuclear bombers have readiness to maintain an extended day-
to-day alert posture, if a policy decision is made in that regard? 
Please provide an unclassified answer to the extent possible; please 
provide an additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Brown. Due to classification, I will provide my answer to 
this question in classified document.

    115. Senator Ernst. General Brown, for how long could bombers 
maintain an extended day-to-day alert posture? Please provide an 
unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide an 
additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Brown. Due to classification, I will provide my answer to 
this question in classified document.

    116. Senator Ernst. General Brown, would you support a requirement 
that the Air Force must maintain readiness to execute an extended day-
to-day alert posture, if directed?
    General Brown. Due to classification, I will provide my answer to 
this question in classified document.
                             space sensors
    117. Senator Ernst. General Saltzman, how would fully funding the 
Ground Moving Target Indicator program help DOD execute its Title 10 
responsibility to win war if deterrence fails? Please provide an 
unclassified answer to the extent possible; please provide an 
additional classified answer if necessary.
    General Saltzman. Joint and coalition forces must overcome 
adversary anti-access/area denial capabilities to prosecute surface 
moving targets on compressed timelines. The USSF space-based GMTI 
systems will provide detection, tracking, and weapons data links to 
close long-range kill-chains for ground and maritime targets at scale 
in highly contested environments and will afford the warfighter 100 
percent of sensor allocated capacity. GMTI is critical due to Joint 
Surveillance Target Attack Radar System (JSTARS) divestiture and ISR 
modernization. The Joint Force must be able to perform the MTI mission 
on a global scale in near real-time. GMTI will replace some of the 
capability provided by JSTARS aircraft due to deficiencies in JSTARS 
survivability, speed, range, and sensor performance. Additionally, GMTI 
is being designed for maximum resiliency and survivability in a near-
peer conflict. This capability will increase survivability of the Joint 
Force and enable weapons employment on tactically relevant timelines.
    Funding of the space segment in fiscal year 2024 enables long-lead 
procurement for payload hardware required to support GMTI launch dates 
in fiscal year 2027 and fiscal year 2028. The USSF's partnership with 
the Intelligence Community enables the service to field this warfighter 
capability much faster than originally planned. An fiscal year 2024 
funding shortfall delays initial launch capability by over a year, 
decelerates the pace of system delivery, and delays deployment of an 
operationally relevant full warfighting capability.
                               __________
              Questions Submitted by Senator Dan Sullivan
                          recent e-7 wedgetail
    118. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, 
approximately 1 year, ago the Air Force conducted its first training 
exercise with Royal Australian Air Force E-7 Wedgetails. As you well 
know, our procurement of the E-7 Wedgetail will ensure interoperability 
with our allies and provide us with a robust ISR and battlefield 
management tool. Speaking before the Committee earlier this year, 
NORTHCOM Commander Gen. VanHerck's reiterated the importance of the E-7 
Wedgetail and his hope that the Air Force could procure them faster to 
give NORAD greater domain awareness. Your Unfunded Priority List 
indicates you agree with Gen. VanHerck. As we have all seen over the 
last several months, Chinese Spy Balloons, high altitude flying 
objects, and Russian Bear bombers all require greater domain awareness 
in the Arctic. Upgrading from the E-3 to the E-7 is essential to 
enhancing our domain awareness. What steps are you taking to accelerate 
E-7 training and procurement?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force is leveraging 
the Military Personnel Exchange Program with the Royal Australian Air 
Force (RAAF) E-7A Wedgetail program to build a foundation of operations 
and maintenance knowledge to accelerate a smooth transition from the E-
3 to E-7. From fiscal year 2023 to fiscal year 2026, the Air Force is 
sending 25 operators (Pilots, Electronic Warfare Officers, Air Battle 
Managers) and 25 maintenance personnel (mix of Crew Chiefs, Avionics, 
Radar, and Computer) to train and fully integrate with the RAAF for 3 
years. The Air Force plans to repeat this process from fiscal year 2027 
to fiscal year 2030 with a different pool of personnel. The USAF/RAAF 
E-7A exchange is an essential first step in establishing an initial 
cadre for Air Force E-7A operations and maintenance. Additionally, it 
strengthens strategic partnerships in INDOPACOM while increasing future 
interoperability through Tactics, Techniques and Procedures refinement. 
Finally, this exchange will accelerate USAF E-7A initial training 
capacity to maximize the E-7A's operational impact once USAF aircraft 
are delivered.
    Regarding procurement, the Air Force is executing an aggressive 
rapid prototyping acquisition strategy as its baseline plan and is 
continuously evaluating opportunities for additional schedule savings. 
For fiscal year 2024, an opportunity exists to expedite the fielding of 
the first two production E-7As. This opportunity was presented in the 
fiscal year 2024 E-7A Unfunded Priority List (UPL). If the UPL is 
funded, long-lead items for two E-7A production aircraft would begin 
production in fiscal year 2024 pulling delivery on those first two 
production tails into fiscal year 2028. On the baseline plan, the first 
two production aircraft will deliver in fiscal year 2029 and fiscal 
year 2030.

    119. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what 
steps are you taking to accelerate E-7 deliveries to the operating 
forces?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Air Force is executing an 
aggressive rapid prototyping acquisition strategy as its baseline plan 
and is continuously evaluating opportunities for additional schedule 
savings. For fiscal year 2024, an opportunity exists to expedite the 
fielding of the first two production E-7As. This opportunity was 
presented in the fiscal year 2024 E-7A Unfunded Priority List (UPL). If 
the UPL is funded, long-lead items for two E-7A production aircraft 
would begin production in fiscal year 2024 pulling delivery on those 
first two production tails into fiscal year 2028. On the baseline plan, 
the first two production aircraft will deliver in fiscal year 2029 and 
fiscal year 2030.

    120. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, in your 
conversations with Boeing, have they identified specific bottlenecks to 
accelerating E-7 production and delivery?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The DAF and Boeing are already 
executing the E-7A Rapid Prototyping effort at maximum speed to support 
accelerated production. The fiscal year 2024 Unfunded Priorities List 
addresses one of the limiting factors by accelerating long lead 
procurement of material, but the two primary limiting factors are the 
timelines for green aircraft production and the production process of 
the Multifunction Electronically Scanned Array radar. The ability to 
accelerate the learning curve for the high-skill, high touch-time radar 
production process has challenged efforts to accelerate the UK E-7 
radar delivery to date.
                     air force fighter acquisition
    121. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, this 
year's budget includes a request for 72 new fighters--48 F-35As and 24 
F-15EX Eagle IIs--to modernize the fleet. Over the last few months, the 
Alaska-based fighter fleet has been active in the homeland defense 
mission, intercepting Russian Bear bombers, Chinese spy balloons, and 
other high altitude flying objects. These Alaska-based fighters are 
under INDOPACOM control however. In the event of a conflict with the 
People's Republic of China (PRC), they would likely be deployed into 
combat, requiring other aircraft to backfill the homeland defense 
mission in Alaska. How will the Air Force's fighter acquisition plan 
improve homeland defense?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Homeland Defense Mission 
is the #1 DAF mission priority and will always be covered, so there is 
minimal risk. If Alaska Homeland Defense assets forward deploy in the 
Indo-Pacific, we will fleet manage aircraft from other units to 
Homeland Defense and accept risk in other mission areas. Our fighter 
acquisition plan is critical to modernizing our aging Air National 
Guard fighter fleets that perform the majority of our daily homeland 
defense alert duties. With the help of Congress, we have fielded modern 
capabilities like Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars in 
our F-15C/D and F-16 Block 30 aircraft; however, the aircraft 
themselves are among the oldest in our inventory and are nearing or 
exceeding service life. Replacing these aircraft with F-16 Block 40, F-
15EX or F-35 will ensure our homeland defense fighters can detect and 
mitigate threats while reducing the risks and costs of operating legacy 
aircraft.

    122. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what 
homeland defense risks will the Air Force incur if the fighter 
procurement timeline is interrupted?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The Homeland Defense Mission 
is the #1 DAF mission priority and will always be covered, so there is 
minimal risk. However, if procurement of F-15EX or F-35 aircraft is 
interrupted, we will fleet manage aircraft from other units to Homeland 
Defense and accept risk in other mission areas. The F-15C/D aircraft 
averages nearly 40 years of age, has exceeded its service life, and 
can't be extended without significant risk to our aircrew.
                            homeland defense
    123. Senator Sullivan. Secretary Kendall and General Brown, what 
different capabilities do the F-15EX and F-35 bring to the homeland 
defense mission compared to the F-15C/D and F-16?
    Secretary Kendall and General Brown. The F-15E/EX, F-16, F-22 and 
F-35 all possess the weapons and sensors required to execute the 
Homeland Defense mission. The F-15E/EX and F-16s with Active 
Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radars are preferred platforms for 
Homeland Defense because our stealth F-22 and F-35 aircraft can be 
preserved for operations in more contested environments. Although not 
stealthy, the F-15E/EX offers significant sensor, range, and payload 
capabilities over the other fighters, while the F-16 is our most 
affordable fighter and provides capacity in meeting all our Homeland 
Defense requirements.
    F-15Cs have reached the end of their useful service life and are 
not able to survive in a contested environment. The fiscal year 2024 
President's Budget (PB) divests the remaining 54 F-15C/Ds in fiscal 
year 2024.
                        space force recruitment
    124. Senator Sullivan. General Saltzman, unlike some of the other 
services, Space Force had no issues meeting recruitment goals over the 
last 2 years. Last year General John Raymond, the former Chief of Space 
Operations, stated you have more people looking to join than you can 
take on. In fact, when the Space Force went looking for cyber 
professionals who had worked in private industry, hundreds of people 
applied but your service only took six of them. Why has Space Force 
recruitment been so successful over the last 2 years?
    General Saltzman. We are seeking the best and the brightest with a 
passion to serve. During our first 2 years, over 1500 qualified 
recruits raised their hands to volunteer for nearly 900 enlisted 
positions. We have expanded bonuses and removed barriers to entry, 
through relaxed tattoo policies, modified THC waivers, modified body 
fat composition, and other efforts which have expanded our talent pool. 
We are also engaged in robust ``STEM to Space'' and ``Guardian Enhanced 
Active Recruiting'' or ``G.E.A.R'' outreach programs, which place 
guardians in communities to message and advocate the USSF mission. 
``STEM to Space'' was designed to facilitate virtual connections 
between guardians and K-12 classrooms to share the importance of STEM 
careers related to space. Volunteers represent the Space Force in 
online forums, high school and college visits, and participate in 
marketing and other events that aid in raising awareness.

    125. Senator Sullivan. General Saltzman, do you think direct 
commissioning opportunities are helping recruit the talent you need?
    General Saltzman. We believe the program can help in expanding the 
breadth of talent needed to compete in the space domain, however, is 
too early in the pipeline to declare success. We will continue to 
review our ability to attract talent, monitor their performance on 
active duty and, as one of the areas to improve, expedite necessary 
clearances.

    126. Senator Sullivan. General Saltzman, can you elaborate on the 
details of the targeted recruiting strategy you mentioned during the 
hearing?
    General Saltzman. In addition to the outstanding support from Air 
Force Recruiting Service, removal of accession barriers, and our robust 
outreach programs, we have observed high interest from the Air Force 
Academy and ROTC cadet cohorts. We implemented our Constructive Service 
Credit program for Cyber professionals and received over 400 
applications, which went through a very rigorous screening and 
qualification process, resulting in six candidates who successfully 
completed the process. The six individuals were commissioned as Cyber 
officers in the grades of 1st Lieutenant to Lieutenant Colonel. 
Moreover, the Space Force University Partnership Program creates a 
pipeline for future Space Force officers and civilians through ROTC and 
internship programs. We will recruit from a diverse group of 
universities to ensure the strongest possible field of future guardians 
and STEM talent including from underrepresented populations. We 
currently have 14 partner universities.
                               __________
            Questions Submitted by Senator Tommy Tuberville
                   space command headquarter location
    127. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, we need a decision on 
Space Command's headquarters. Many of us are worried the next war is 
going to start in space and that the U.S. is behind. If this were a 
track race, we'd still be on the starting blocks and China and Russia 
would be halfway around the track. Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, 
Alabama has, by every quantitative metric, proven to be the best 
location for SPACECOMM HQ. This is an objective fact not in dispute. 
Last year, General Dickinson said his biggest hurdle to reaching full 
operational capability is the basing decision. The Secretary of the Air 
Force has final basing authority, correct?
    Secretary Kendall. Yes. The Secretary of Defense has delegated the 
decision to the Secretary of the Air Force. Space Command will reach 
full operational capability later this summer, independent of the 
basing decision.

    128. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, would you agree that 
the major source of the delay has been congressional objections? If 
not, what is the primary source of delay at this point?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force took appropriate 
action to support oversight reviews of the USSPACECOM headquarters 
basing process and to complete the recommendations those reviews 
contained. These actions required additional time.

    129. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, the number two 
preferred location was Nebraska. Were any objections raised by elected 
Members of Congress from Nebraska?
    Secretary Kendall. On January 12, 2021, my predecessor, Secretary 
Barbara Barrett, selected Huntsville, Alabama as the preferred location 
for USSPACECOM headquarters and designated all other candidates as 
reasonable alternatives. The reasonable alternatives were not rank 
ordered. As part of congressional notification, we provided selection 
process information to the elected Members of Congress from Nebraska, 
who did not formally object to the process.

    130. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, the number three 
location was Texas. Were extra studies requested by and Members of the 
Texas delegation?
    Secretary Kendall. On January 12, 2021, my predecessor, Secretary 
Barbara Barrett, selected Huntsville, Alabama as the preferred location 
for USSPACECOM headquarters and designated all other candidates as 
reasonable alternatives. The reasonable alternatives were not rank 
ordered. As part of congressional notification, we provided selection 
process information to the Members of the Texas delegation, who did not 
request additional studies.

    131. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, which State delegation 
initiated a congressional inquiry?
    Secretary Kendall. As documented in public record, the delegates 
from Colorado requested the House Armed Service Committee Investigator, 
the Government Accountability Office, and the Department of Defense 
Inspector General review the process used to select the USSPACECOM 
headquarters.

    132. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, the Colorado 
congressional delegation, a State that was, at best, determined to be 
the number four location preference, has unnecessarily delayed 
confirmation of Huntsville as the choice for Space Command's new 
headquarters for more than 2 years. What is the current status of that 
decision?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force is completing 
the recommendations contained in the reviews by the Government 
Accountability Office and the Department of Defense Inspector General. 
We anticipate a final decision after a thorough review of all current 
information.

    133. Senator Tuberville. Secretary Kendall, how many more reviews 
need to be conducted in order to further confirm Redstone Arsenal as 
the preferred location for SPACECOM's headquarters?
    Secretary Kendall. We anticipate a final decision after a thorough 
review of all current information.

                               __________
             Questions Submitted by Senator Eric S. Schmitt
                  management initiatives and outcomes
    134. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Kendall, you referenced management 
initiatives that you have implemented to ``introduce well-defined 
metrics for each part of the Air Force.'' Can you provide a summary of 
the initiatives you were referencing and direct us to the relevant 
initiative implementation guidance?
    Secretary Kendall. The Management Initiatives (MIs) were initiated 
in November 2021 to outline organizational changes and management 
initiatives necessary to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of 
how the Department of the Air Force headquarters staff operates. The 11 
MIs included many of the business functions to include: Tech Debt, 
Cyber, Organizational Assessments, Financial Management, and Metrics. 
The purpose of the Metrics initiative was to establish the baseline for 
Department of the Air Force (DAF) performance metrics and measures. 
While this effort is just beginning, the DAF has laid the foundation 
for a performance management effort that will support leaders at all 
levels in making timely and informed decisions; decisions that are 
measurable, attainable, and supported by accurate and timely data.

    135. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Kendall, you stated that the above-
referenced initiatives have allowed the Department of the Air Force to 
realize cost savings. Can you provide a summary of those savings and 
supporting documentation?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF is making smart investment decisions 
with a focus on long-term benefits freeing funds to deliver Enterprise 
capabilities that enable the warfighter to counter characteristics 
unique to the China threat, while facilitating true collaboration with 
our allies and partners. Using the Management Initiatives as the 
backdrop, we embarked on the whole of DAF approach to identify 
investments for prioritization and funding advocacy.
    In the fiscal year 2024 budget submission, the DAF invested 
approximately $209 million in six projects to realize future management 
efficiencies. Based on these investments, the DAF will be able to: 
scale essential DAF Data investments for operational warfighting 
requirements, business efficiency, and decision advantages; deploy 
session controllers to support Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) 
transition from the legacy infrastructure; and replacing legacy 
contract writing and management systems with one interoperable system. 
Further, the DAF anticipates these additional benefits from the 
investments:

      Improved Financial Improvement and Audit Readiness (FIAR) 
compliance;

      Enhanced Category Management disciplines for DAF 
Information Technology (IT) Assets, Strategic Sourcing, and Demand 
Management; and

      Increased use of Development Design System across the DAF 
for software development, including classified environments and weapon 
systems.

    The DAF has begun implementing the recommendations from Management 
Initiatives (MIs). For example, the DAF is consolidating software buys 
into enterprise license agreements (ELA). The first of our ELAs is for 
ServiceNow and is expected to be awarded before the end of this fiscal 
year. It will consolidate approximately 40 instances of ServiceNow into 
a much more compact architecture and will combine separate contracts 
under one umbrella. Once complete, this action will save $17 million 
across the DAF in fiscal year 2024 and will grow each year after as 
more functions are added.
    The DAF is positioning itself for the future fight, however changes 
of this scope and magnitude will not be accomplished overnight. The DAF 
is taking steps to improve processes that are expected to result in 
efficiencies and cost savings, and to streamline decisionmaking to 
enable DAF leaders to better execute their respective missions. As 
Secretary, I will continue to drive efficiencies at all levels of the 
DAF in support of our airmen and guardians.
       diversity equity and inclusion (dei) resource expenditure
    136. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Kendall, in mid-March I sent a 
letter to Secretary Austin asking about his civilian workforce and 
about his training priorities for the force. I have yet to receive a 
response from Secretary Austin, so I am hopeful that you can answer 
these questions for me about the Department of the Air Force. How many 
DEI-related positions exist in the Department of the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. The DAF has approximately 70 Diversity, Equity, 
Inclusion and Accessibility (DEIA) related positions.

    137. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Kendall, can you identify the job 
titles, number of positions that exist for each job title, and salary 
range for each DEI-related position in the Department of the Air Force?
    Secretary Kendall. The table included below includes Service, 
MAJCOM, unit, salary, grade, and title.

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                 BOS                       MAJCOM                  UNIT DERIVED                Salary       GRADE                 DEI Title
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USAF                                               ACC              AIR COMBAT COMMAND (OL CS00$137,469       GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                               ACC                             70 INTL-SURVE$94,199N WING GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION MANAGER
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USAF                                               ACC                688 CYBERSPACE WING      $109,066       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION MANAGER
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USAF                                             AETC        AIR EDUC AND TRNG COMMAND (OL A1A1)$86,693       GS12    RATED DIVERSITY IMPROVEMENT (RDI)
                                                                                                                                            PROGRAM ANALYST
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USAF                                             AETC        AIR EDUC AND TRNG COMMAND (OL A1A1)$99,764       GS13    RATED DIVERSITY IMPROVEMENT (RDI)
                                                                                                                                             PRGRAM ANALYST
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USAF                                             AETC        AIR EDUC AND TRNG COMMAND (OL A1A1$116,390       GS13    RATED DIVERSITY IMPROVEMENT (RDI)
                                                                                                                                             PRGRAM ANALYST
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USAF                                             AETC        AIR EDUC AND TRNG COMMAND (OL CD01$125,750       GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                           AF TAC                709 SUPPORT SQUADRON       $86,179       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION MANAGER
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USAF                                              AFCCT         AF CIV CAREER TNG--FOA (OL FR)  $57,853       GS07                      DIVERSITY & INCLUSION PROGRAM
                                                                                                                                       MANAGER/ CAMPUS LIAISON
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USAF                                             AFMC           AF INST MSN SPT CENTER (OL DP00$126,366       GS13              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFMC                          AF MATERIEL COMM$153,851A1)    NH04                  CHIEF, HQ AFMC EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
                                                                                                                                          AND DIVERSITY
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USAF                                             AFMC                              AF NUCLEAR W$115,320ER (OL NH03)                   DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFMC                        AF RESEARCH LAB   $146,722       DR03                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFMC                    75 AIR BASE WING      $117,286       NH04            DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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USAF                                             AFMC                    78 AIR BASE WING      $139,759       NH04            DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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USAF                                             AFMC                    88 AIR BASE WING      $105,696       NH03                                INSTALLATION DIVERSITY AND
                                                                                                                                                    INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFMC                        96 TEST WING       $52,185       NH02                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION SPECIALIST
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USAF                                             AFMC                        96 TEST WING       $79,780       NH02                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFMC                        96 TEST WING       $86,541       NH03                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION SPECIALIST
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USAF                                             AFMC                       412 TEST WING      $153,010       NH04            DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                  CHIEF
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USAF                                           AFOSI              AF OFF SPEC INVEST--FOA      $145,604       GS14                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                             AFR                HQ AF RESERVE COMMAND      $128,031       GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                            AFSOC             AF-SPEC-OPNS COMMAND (OL A100$108,345       GS13                                   CULTURE AND DIVERSITY SPECIALIST
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USAF                                              AMC                                MOBILITY C$130,889OL CD00GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                              AMC                         6 AIR REFUELING W$121,477       GS13              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                              AMC                         60 AIR MOBILITY W$102,489       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USAF                                              AMC                              62 AIRLIFT WI$92,123       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION MANAGER
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USAF                                              AMC                    87 AIR BASE WING      $115,118       GS13              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                    GLOBAL STRKE                                 AF GLOBAL $131,911OMMAND GS14DS00)         CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                    GLOBAL STRKE                    377 AIR BASE WING      $144,941       GS14            DIVERSITY AND AFFIRMATIVE
                                                                                                                                                    EMPLOYMENT SPECIALIST
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USAF                                        HQ AFMOA       AF MD READINESS AGENCY--FOA (OL     $154,428       GS14                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PROGRAM
                                                                                    SG09)                                                       MANAGER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00$145,604       GS14                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PROGRAM
                                                                                                                                                MANAGER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL OS00$150,016       GS14                                 CIVILIAN DIVERSITY PROGRAM MANAGER
                                                                                                                                       (DIVERSITY & INCLUSION)
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL OS00$208,767        SES    DIRECTOR, OFFICE OF DIVERSITY AND
                                                                                                                                                    INCLUSION
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USAF                                            NASIC          NAT AIR-SP INT CENTER--FOA      $124,495       GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                              PACAF        PACIFIC AIR FORCES COMMAND      $121,059       GS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                          US AFA                         DIRCT OF ATHLETICS$108,129       AD22                     ADVANCED PHYSICAL EDUCATION
                                                                                                                        INSTRUCTOR (DIVERSITY PROGRAMS)
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USAF                                          US AFA                    USAF ACADEMY--DRU      $110,092       GS12       DIVERSITY PROGRAM RESEARCH ANALYST
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USAF                                          US AFA                    USAF ACADEMY--DRU      $114,129       GS13                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION ANALYST
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USAF                                          US AFA                    USAF ACADEMY--DRU      $149,307       GS15                             CHIEF CULTURE CLIMATE AND DIVERSITY
                                                                                                                                                AND INCLUSION
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USAF                                           USAFE            USAF IN EUROPE COMMAND (OL A100$106,568       GS14           SUPERVISORY, DIVERSITY AND
                                                                                                                                                    INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                         USNORTHCOM                               AFELM US $119,000M (OL JGS14              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USAF                                            USSOCOM                               AFELM US $105,062L CS00)GS13                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION OFFICER
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USAF                                         USSTRATCOM               US STRATEGIC CMD (OL J0CS$105,982       GS13              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USSF                                         HQ USSF   CHIEF OF SPACE OPS HEADQUARTERS (OL     $131,454       NH04          DIRECTOR, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                    SF00)
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USSF                                         HQ USSF   CHIEF OF SPACE OPS HEADQUARTERS (OL     $137,460       NH04          DIRECTOR, DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                    SF00)
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USSF                                            USSF                   HQ SPOC COMMAND (OL S1) $127,111       NH04              CHIEF DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION
                                                                                                                                                OFFICER
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USSF                                            USSF                      1 SPACE BASE DELTA (OL$93,155       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USSF                                            USSF                      2 SPACE BASE DELTA    $91,753       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USSF                                            USSF                      3 SPACE BASE DELTA    $99,102       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USSF                                            USSF                            30 SPACE LAUNCH $73,805       NH02                      DIVERSITY & INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USSF                                            USSF                            30 SPACE LAUNCH$124,677       GS12                      DIVERSITY & INCLUSION COORDINATION
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USSF                                            USSF                            45 SPACE LAUNCH $89,031       NH03                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USSF                                     USSF NON-HQ                      1 SPACE BASE DELTA    $95,978       GS12                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION COORDINATOR
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00$117,891       GS14          DEPARTMENT OF THE AF DISABILITY
                                                                                                                                        PROGRAM MANAGER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00$132,368       GS14            AIR FORCE AFFIRMATIVE EMPLOYMENT
                                                                                                                                         PROGRAM/SPECIAL EMPHASIS
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00$145,604       GS14                    DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION PROGRAM
                                                                                                                                                MANAGER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL OS00$150,016       GS14                                 CIVILIAN DIVERSITY PROGRAM MANAGER
                                                                                                                                       (DIVERSITY & INCLUSION)
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00)$66,196     04-MAJ                    EXECUTIVE OFFICER
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USAF                                    HQAF SUP AGY         US AIR FORCE HEADQUARTERS (OL DI00)$76,719      05-LTCOL      DIRECTORS ACTION GROUP CHIEF
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    138. Senator Schmitt. Secretary Kendall, can you estimate the 
number of mandatory DEI-related training sessions conducted in 2022, 
and the total number of hours those sessions consumed?
    Secretary Kendall. The Department of the Air Force has implemented 
training at various stages of members' careers and developmental paths 
in accordance with Executive Order (EO) 14305. Line (a) in section 9 of 
EO 14305 states ``The head of each agency shall take steps to implement 
or increase the availability and use of diversity, equity, inclusion, 
and accessibility training programs for employees, managers, and 
leadership. Such training programs should enable Federal employees, 
managers, and leaders to have knowledge of systemic and institutional 
racism and bias against underserved communities, be supported in 
building skillsets to promote respectful and inclusive workplaces and 
eliminate workplace harassment, have knowledge of agency accessibility 
practices, and have increased understanding of implicit and unconscious 
bias.''
    The following table identifies training implemented by Air Force 
Instruction 36-7001 dated 19 February 2019 (currently in re-write) and 
executed IAW EO 14305. Time spent for each training requirement is 
included on the following table.

  Diversity & Inclusion Training Courses (IAW DAF Instruction 36-7001)
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               Targeted Trainee                    D&I Module Duration
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Basic Military Training (BMT) trainee                     3 hours total
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Enlisted member on his or her first permanent                    1 hour
 duty assignment
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Airman Leadership School (ALS) student                          2 hours
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Non-Commissioned Officer Academy (NCOA)                         2 hours
 student
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Senior Non-Commissioned Officer Academy                       1.5 hours
 (SNCOA)
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Enlisted Professional Enhancement (PE) Course                    1 hour
 (NCO/SNCOPE) student
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First Sergeant Academy student                                  2 hours
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Chief Master Sergeant                                           2 hours
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New Installation/Center Commander(s)                             1 hour
 (director), Group Commander(s), Squadron
 Commander(s), Detachment Commander(s),
 Section Commander(s), Command Chief Master
 Sergeant(s)
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Officer Training School (OTS) trainee                           3 hours
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Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) cadet       16 hours over 4 years
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United States Air Force Academy (USAFA)                   2 hours total
 Preparatory School cadet
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USAFA cadet                                       16 hours over 4 years
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Squadron Officer School (SOS) student                           2 hours
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Air Command and Staff College (ACSC) student                     1 hour
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Air War College (AWC) student                                    1 hour
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New Flag or General Officer (F/GO) and SES                       1 hour
 personnel
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Recruiter as defined in DODI 1304.33                            2 hours
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Military Training Instructor (MTI)--when                        2 hours
 selected to become a training instructor)
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New Employee Orientation                                         1 hour
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
New Supervisor Orientation                                       1 hour
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Experienced Supervisor Training                                  1 hour
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New Manager Course                                               1 hour
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Experienced Manager Course                                       1 hour
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Senior Manager Course                                            1 hour
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D&I Program Manager or Chief Diversity &                       On-going
 Inclusion Officer
------------------------------------------------------------------------


                                                                                      APPENDIXPATTACHMENT 1
                                                         Table 1. Plan Choices for Military Beneficiaries Compared to Federal Civilians
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     #               QFR          Air Force UPL Item #1    Air Force UPL Item #2    Air Force UPL Item #3          Air Force UPL Item #4         Air Force UPL Item #5    Air Force UPL Item #6
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39           General Brown, for          Accelerate E-7           Prioritized MILCON Post-block F-16 AESA    Fund ISR Digital InfrastructureP    F-15EX Conformal Fuel             (OI-5) Agile
              each item on the         deliveryP($633.3                         LisradarP ($174.4 million)                   ($129.8 million)     TankP($63.6 million)           Communications
                      unfunded                 million)                                                                                                                      EquipmentP ($227.8
               priorities list                                                                                                                                                         million)
                 you submit in
                response to 10
                  U.S.C. 222a,
             please provide the
                     following
                  information:
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40              General Brown,        The funding would                   The MILCONThe request funds the     The funds underlying classified     Procures 12 CFTs for     Funding this program
              please provide a   procure long lead items    list of construction       APG-83 AESA radar,              commercial cloud based   previously procured F-     will enhance the Air
                      detailed    for the production of      projects of varying   enabling the post-block   capabilities provided as metered   15EX aircraft. CFTs add   Force's capability to
                description of               two E-7s. Long leascope and cost at    F-16 fleet to execute         on-demand services from the     critical capability:   conduct operations from
                       this UPL? items include the basic       various CONUS and         Homeland Defense   Intelligence-governed and secured    increased fuel/range,        forward operating
                                   737 aircraft and the    OCONUS locations. The                missions.       to meet DAF SCI requirements.    12 additional weapons    locations and enhance
                                          Multifunction     increaseing costs of                            Focus is on TS/SCI capabilities as     stations (wired for     air base resiliency.
                                 Electronically Scanned     contruction projects                            shared enterprise services for Air          advanced smart       USAF combat unit's
                                 Array (MESA) radar. The        exceed orignally                            Force and Space Force and bridges   munitions) and enables   ability to operate and
                                  funding increases the            programmed MILCON                        IC applications and data with the    the F-15EX to perform         communicate from
                                       fiscal year 2025    amounts. Each project                            DAF solutions in support of multi-   full range of air-to-      dispersed locations
                                    procurement profile      is unique, but each                            domain operations. This will also    air and air-to-ground        within the Second
                                       from 1 to 2, and   project is aligned with                             modernize DCGS capabilities and                missions.     Island Chain will be
                                  mitigates risk in the     Air Force priorities                              provide enterprise architecture                            enabled by connections
                                 procurement to delivery    that improve mission                            experts and environment at TS/SCI                            in the development and
                                  schedule. The funding         capabilities and                             levels to continue to accelerate                              fielding of hardware
                                 also adds research and              Quality of Life.                        change and create mission value.                            and software for future
                                  development funds for                                                                                                                    open mission systems
                                      rapid prototyping                                                                                                                       platforms and the
                                 aircraft to reduce risk                                                                                                                 ability to develop new/
                                     in the Middle Tier                                                                                                                         modify existing
                                  Acquisition schedule.                                                                                                                  communication pathways.
                                                                                                                                                                              Funding for Agile
                                                                                                                                                                                 Communications
                                                                                                                                                                         Equipment supports the
                                                                                                                                                                         NDS's Resilient Future
                                                                                                                                                                              Force design with
                                                                                                                                                                            decision advantage.
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41              General Brown,         The funding will           An approximate     Funding this program     The funding would provide:P -an         Funding the CFTs         (U) Funding this
              what does the UPL  accelerate delivery of    understanding of what   ensures over 25 percent      extension of the ecosystem of   increase both range and  program will procure 66
                      purchase     two E-7 aircraft and                   the MILCON of the F-16 advanced     commercial cloud-based software   payload for the F-15EX.     Agile Comm Packages
                                     supports Combatant          purchase can be     combat fleet will be    capabilities from the IC and DOD     This increase allows    (ACP) and 99 Fly Away
                                   Command's Air Moving       obtained from each          able to execute   to a regional edge infrastructure     the F-15EX to patrol           Communications
                                       Target Indicator   project title. A small         Homeland Defense              allowing for temporary   longer and farther, as    Terminals (FACTs) for
                                      requirements. The     sampling from the UPL   missions. The project   disconnected Air Force operations        well as carry the        MAJCOMs for Agile
                                    acceleration of E-7   includes antiterrorism   improves the Department          with a critical subset of   appropriate amount and   Combat Employment (ACE)
                                  delivery supports NDS    gate upgrades at F.E.   of Defense's ability to   capabilities specifically geared       mix of armament to            communication
                                    objectives and will      Warren AFB, an F-35      protect the Nation,       toward more sensor to shooter   defend the homeland and  requirements needed to
                                 enable the Joint Force   Maintenance Facility at   partners, and assets.       automation;P -new high-speed,         deter the pacing         support AF Force
                                 to deter, and if needed       Hill AFB, a Cyber     The request supports      resilient Intelligence network   challenge in the Indo-    Generation (AFFORGEN)
                                 prevail, in a high end     Operations Center at      the NDS priority to         transport meshed with ABMS-   Pacific. Funding for F-    Model. This includes
                                              conflict.       JBSA, and Military     Defend the Homeland.   provided black network backbone to  15EX CFTs supports the   standardized equipment
                                                                  Family Housing                            optimize use of available capacity  NDS priority to Defend    that allows airmen to
                                                          improvements at Yokota                             to improve resilience and reduce   the Homeland and Deter/  access critical mission
                                                              AB. For additional                            latency;P -Air Force Intel managed     Prevail in Conflict   data on NIPR, SIPR, and
                                                          details on each project                                 Infrastructure as a Service                               Top-Secret networks
                                                          and operational impacts                               (IaaS), Platform as a Service                                (deployable JWICS)
                                                          please reference the DD                               (PaaS) services and DevSecOps                             through resilient and
                                                                1391s previously                            platform that includes IC security                           redundant connectivity
                                                                    transmitted.                                governance and controlsP -Air                              paths, training, and
                                                                                                                  Force Intelligence big data                              sustainment. Current
                                                                                                                platform, which is the TS/SCI                            Air Force expeditionary
                                                                                                              portion of the DAF Data Fabric,                                    communications
                                                                                                            integrates other IC data platforms                           alignment and capacity
                                                                                                            with the DAF;P -the complementary                                is insufficient to
                                                                                                                services to Platform One that                                 support AFFORGEN.
                                                                                                             provide DAF classified DevSecOps
                                                                                                                   and cloud based enterprise
                                                                                                                   services necessary for the
                                                                                                                  operational imperatives;P -
                                                                                                            security services for cloud-based
                                                                                                                   capabilities;P -enterprise
                                                                                                                artificial intelligence model
                                                                                                                   development and management
                                                                                                            environment with a marketplace at
                                                                                                             all three classifications;P -Air
                                                                                                              Force ISR capability inside the
                                                                                                            DCGS program as one of the primary
                                                                                                                customers of the AF ISR DI to
                                                                                                            refactor into a cloud-native model
                                                                                                                  and integrate with national
                                                                                                                    capabilitiesP -enterprise
                                                                                                                architect and tools in TS/SCI
                                                                                                                    environment that continue
                                                                                                            designing innovative improvements
                                                                                                                      to the ISR Sensing Grid
                                                                                                                      environment to continue
                                                                                                            accelerating change and keep ahead
                                                                                                                        of pacing challenges.
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42              General Brown,     Funding this program           An approximate      Funding the program   Funding this priority transitions   The CFTs increase both     Funding this program
                please include          will accelerate    understanding of what   ensures over 25 percent  prior Intelligence investments to    range and payload for        will increase the
             detail on all end        delivery of 2 E-7                   the MILCON of the F-16 advanced      long-term sustainable programs         the F-15EX. This     USAF's capability to
                    items with        aircraft and meet   provide can be obtained    combat fleet will be         united under C3BM for C2 to   increase allows the F-   conduct operations from
                   quantities,   Combatant Command's Air       from each project          able to execute     encompass all Air Force ISR and    15EX to patrol longer        forward operating
              contractor FTEs,   Moving Target Indicator  title. A small sampling        Homeland Defense   DAF SCI cloud-based requirements.   and farther, as well as   locations and enhance
                          etc.    requirements. Funding              from the UPL imissions; improving the  Current customer programs include    carry the appropriate     air base resiliency.
                                        accelerated E-7       antiterrorism gate   Deparment of Defense's         DAF RCO, Space RCO, Rhombus        amount and mix of   This equipment enables
                                  delivery supports the   upgrades at F.E. Warren  ability to protect its    Guardian (A8 financial data), UDL  armament to defend the       dispersed units to
                                  Joint Force to deter,             AFB, an F-35     territory, partners,                     (space data), ELICHomeland and deter our       connect with hubs,
                                 and if needed, prevail,  Maintenance Facility at  and assets. The project     data), and 135 others. Custody   pacing challenge in the  airborne aircraft, and
                                 in a high end conflict.       Hill AFB, a Cyber         supports the NDS    engine and sensor to shooter are    Indo-Pacific. Funding   the JADC2 framework to
                                                            Operations Center at   priority to Defend the          all dependent on AF ISR DI          for F-15EX CFTs            provide field
                                                              JBSA, and Military                Homeland.        capabilities foundationally.         supports the NDS     conditions, received
                                                                  Family Housing                                                                priority to Defend the           and distribute
                                                          improvements at Yokota                                                                   Homeland and Deter/             intelligence
                                                          AB. Additional details                                                                 Prevail in a conflict     information, provide
                                                          are provided in the DD                                                                                         resupply requirements,
                                                                1391s previously                                                                                         and coordinate medical
                                                                    transmitted.                                                                                          support requirements.
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43              General Brown,     Funding this program           An approximate      Funding the program   Funding this priority transitions   The CFTs increase both     Funding this program
                 what specific          will accelerate    understanding of what   ensures over 25 percent  prior Intelligence investments to    range and payload for        will increase the
               capability will        delivery of 2 E-7                   the MILCON of the F-16 advanced      long-term sustainable programs         the F-15EX. This     USAF's capability to
                        the UPL providaircraft and meet   provide can be obtained    combat fleet will be         united under C3BM for C2 to   increase allows the F-   conduct operations from
                                 Combatant Command's Air       from each project          able to execute     encompass all Air Force ISR and    15EX to patrol longer        forward operating
                                 Moving Target Indicator  title. A small sampling        Homeland Defense   DAF SCI cloud-based requirements.   and farther, as well as   locations and enhance
                                  requirements. Funding              from the UPL imissions; improving the  Current customer programs include    carry the appropriate     air base resiliency.
                                        accelerated E-7       antiterrorism gate   Deparment of Defense's         DAF RCO, Space RCO, Rhombus        amount and mix of   This equipment enables
                                  delivery supports the   upgrades at F.E. Warren  ability to protect its    Guardian (A8 financial data), UDL  armament to defend the       dispersed units to
                                 NDS priority to Deter/             AFB, an F-35     territory, partners,                     (space data), ELICHomeland and deter our       connect with hubs,
                                   Prevail in Conflict.   Maintenance Facility at  and assets. The project     data), and 135 others. Custody   pacing challenge in the  airborne aircraft, and
                                                               Hill AFB, a Cyber         supports the NDS    engine and sensor to shooter are    Indo-Pacific. Funding   the JADC2 framework to
                                                            Operations Center at   priority to Defend the          all dependent on AF ISR DI          for F-15EX CFTs            provide field
                                                              JBSA, and Military                Homeland.        capabilities foundationally.         supports the NDS     conditions, received
                                                                  Family Housing                                                                priority to Defend the           and distribute
                                                          improvements at Yokota                                                                   Homeland and Deter/             intelligence
                                                          AB. Additional details                                                                 Prevail in a conflict     information, provide
                                                          are provided in the DD                                                                                         resupply requirements,
                                                                1391s previously                                                                                         and coordinate medical
                                                                    transmitted.                                                                                          support requirements.
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44              General Brown,   The E-3 is increasingly                  The MILCON The fiscal year 2024    The base budget does not include     CFTs, along with the      (U) The operational
             what gap will this  limited in its ability     list of construction      base AESA budget is   non-intelligence provided central        increased weapons   need at the Wing level
              fill that is not   to provide the Airborne           projects that   zero. fiscal year 2024     funding for these Air Force ISR    carriage capabilities     for temporary (i.e.,
                   in the base            Moving Target    represents vetted DAF     will fail to support   capabilities that can support DAF       they provide, fill    one to several weeks)
                       budget?   Indication and Airborne  priorities that support       spares, installs,    SCI requirements today; capacity           ``Other System     and sustained (i.e.,
                                      Battle Management    the objectives of the         Interim contract    is elastic and scalable with Air              Attribute''     far into foreseeable
                                    Command and Control       National Security,         support repairs,   Force ISR DI tenants funding just   requirements from the 1        future) on-scene
                                      (BMC2) capability    Military, and Defense     continued AESA radar       what they needed when needed.    Feb 2019 F-15EX Rapid            expeditionary
                                    needed by combatant              Strategies.   software development to                                       Fielding Requirements        communications to
                                 commanders. The fiscal    Additionally, many of     reach full validated                                                    Document.    provide decentralized
                                  year 2024 base budget    the projects increase               capability                                                                      execution, speed
                                    seeks to close that              Quality of Lifrequirements, and begin                                                               tactical action against
                                      capability gap by          security at our          depot stand-up/                                                                fleeting opportunities,
                                      funding the rapid           installations.      activation for AESA                                                                  shorten kill chains,
                                 prototyping of two E-7                                radar sustainment.                                                                support time-sensitive
                                   aircraft to serve as                                                                                                                    targeting, and drive
                                  the Department of the                                                                                                                   the dynamic targeting
                                  Air Force modern BMC2                                                                                                                         process through
                                    node for a high end                                                                                                                      tactical operators
                                    fight, with initial                                                                                                                  following mission type
                                   production slated to                                                                                                                     orders. Current Air
                                   begin in fiscal year                                                                                                                     Force expeditionary
                                  2025. The fiscal year                                                                                                                          communications
                                                2024 UPL request                                                                                                         alignment and capacity
                                        doubles initial                                                                                                                      is insufficient to
                                 production from 1 tail                                                                                                                    support AFFORGEN.The
                                 to 2, and procures long                                                                                                                 base budget procures an
                                      lead items 1 year                                                                                                                  initial tranche of this
                                 early, mitigating risk                                                                                                                  capability but does not
                                        to the delivery                                                                                                                   fully equip INDOPACOM
                                 schedule while closing                                                                                                                     units and follow-on
                                 the capability gap more                                                                                                                      forces from other
                                               rapidly.                                                                                                                                MAJCOMs.
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45           General Brown, how    The E-7 supports the                   The MILCON UFunding the program     More warfighting has shifted to   Funding for F-15EX CFTs              [Deleted.]
                     will this   NDS priority to deter,     list of construction   ensures over 25 percent      dependance on TS/SCI data and         supports the NDS
             capability support  and if needed, prevail,     projects of varying     of the F-16 advanced    capabilities in peer competition   priority to defend the
                    objectives   in a high end conflict.  scope and cost at CONUS    combat fleet will be      and conflict than ever before.   Homeland and deter, and
                   outlined in    The E-7 also supports    and OCONUS locations.          able to execute   Fighting on JWICS, SAP-based SCI,   if needed prevail, in a
              current National     the NDS priority for   Each project is unique,        Homeland Defense          data aggregation all bring        high end conflict
                     Security,      Homeland Defense by    but represents vetted   mission, improving the       additional requirements above
                 Military, and      providing wide area      DAF priorities that   Department of Defense's     intelligence requirements. The
              Defense Strategy   detection capabilities   support the objectives    bility to protect its     expansion extends to new modern
                    documents?   able to counter modern          of the National     territory, partners,      technology delivery methods in
                                 air and cruise missile   Security, Military, and     and assets. Funding   commercial cloud taking advantage
                                               threats.         Defense Strategy         supports the NDS      of mature options based on the
                                                          documents in a variety   priority to Defend the          long standing Intelligence
                                                          of ways. This includes                Homeland.       community (IC) work. National
                                                          projects in the United                                  Intel data and applications
                                                              Kingdom to support                              seamlessly meshed with DOD data
                                                                 posture setting                             and applications is foundational
                                                                 activities with                                      to countering adversary
                                                             increased munitions                                capabilities at the scope and
                                                                  capability and                                   scale required, ultimately
                                                                  positioning of                               shortening the long range kill
                                                             Deployable Air Base                                                       chain.
                                                          Systems. Support to F-
                                                          35 beddown at Hill AFB
                                                           and multiple projects
                                                          to improve the quality
                                                           of life of our airmen
                                                              and guardians. All
                                                            projects are in line
                                                               with the top four
                                                              defense priorities
                                                            outlined in the NDS.
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46              General Brown,    The requirement is to           An approximate      Funding the program   The operational requirement is to     CFTs, along with the      (U) The operational
                   what is the       provide Air Moving     understanding of how   ensures over 25 percent      prosecute more moving targets        increased weapons       need for temporary
                   operational         Target Indicator                   the MILCON of the F-16 advanced    faster in a dispersed resilient,    carriage capabilities    (i.e., one to several
              requirement? How   (AMTI), Airborne Battle       current or future     combat fleet will be     manner in a contested AOR. This       they provide, fill     weeks) and sustained
                  does this UPL  Management, and Command     requirements can be          able to execute        will require automation, and           ``Other System          (i.e., far into
             support current or   and Control (BMC2) to       obtained from each         Homeland Defense          eventually AI, to meet the              Attribute''   foreseeable future) on-
             future operations?    counter advanced and   project title. A small   missions; improving the  operational capability need. Only   requirements from the 1     scene expeditionary
                                   emerging air threats     sampling from the UPL  Deparment of Defense's        by harnessing the agility of    Feb 2019 F-15EX Rapid      communications will
                                          fielded or in   includes antiterrorism   ability to protect its   software can solutions be provided   Fielding Requirements         continue to be a
                                         development by    gate upgrades at F.E.     territory, partners,       at the speed of need at scale                Document.   military requirement to
                                       adversaries. The      Warren AFB, an F-35   and assets. The project       supported through commercial                             provide decentralized
                                       requirement also   Maintenance Facility at        supports the NDS       hyperscale cloud capabilities                                  execution, speed
                                      answers Joint and        Hill AFB, a Cyber   priority to Defend the           securely and resiliently.                            tactical action against
                                       coalition forces     Operations Center at                Homeland.                                                                fleeting opportunities,
                                  requirement for a mix       JBSA, and Military                                                                                           shorten kill chains,
                                  of space and airborne           Family Housing                                                                                         support time-sensitive
                                        next-generation   improvements at Yokota                                                                                           targeting, and drive
                                  sensors, weapons, and   AB. Additional details                                                                                          the dynamic targeting
                                 decision support for C2  are available in the DD                                                                                               process through
                                 in the air domain. Our   1391s for each project                                                                                             tactical operators
                                     ability to project   previously transmitted.                                                                                        following mission type
                                   airpower is directly                                                                                                                      orders. Current AF
                                 tied to our ability to                                                                                                                           expeditionary
                                  execute agile command                                                                                                                          communications
                                   and control of those                                                                                                                  alignment and capacity
                                   forces. Airborne C2,                                                                                                                      is insufficient to
                                  currently provided by                                                                                                                       support AFFORGEN.
                                  our rapidly aging E-3                                                                                                                     Furthermore, the AF
                                 fleet, is our best way                                                                                                                  previously divested of
                                 to do this. The E-7, as                                                                                                                 these capabilities in a
                                 the replacement for the                                                                                                                        2013 Deployable
                                      E-3, will provide                                                                                                                  Communications Program
                                       airborne C2 with                                                                                                                       Action Directive.
                                 improved capability and
                                  mission effectiveness
                                     that will directly
                                 enable our capacity to
                                  meet the challenge of
                                     our pacing threat.
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47              General Brown,   The Air Force and Joint               If the MILCON UPCurrenlty, 67 AESA    If left unfunded, the capability               If this UPL is not       [Deleted.]
                   what is the   Force are challenged to   not funded, execution       radars will not be   will be delayed until later in the   funded, only 12 of 24
             operational impact  execute long range kill   of these requirements   fielded and will remain  FYDP and potentially not be there                         Lot 5 aircraft will
                    if this UPL is not chains in highly         will be delayed.            on the shelf,    in time for a high end conflict.       deliver with CFTs,
              funded in fiscal    contested environment                                      uninstalled,        Capabilities require time to   reducing weapon system
                    year 2024?   with forward operating                            unavailable for combat    build, mature, and stabilize for           capability and
                                      locations and for                                           forces.      programs to learn to depend on   extending the time the
                                   Homeland Defense. If                                                     them and modify their traditional         AF would need to
                                                 the UPL is not funded,                                              methods of IT delivery. Lack of  operate a mixed-
                                 we miss an opportunity                                                        capability in fiscal year 2024   configuration of the F-
                                 to close the capability                                                          will have programs building              15EX fleet.
                                      gap more rapidly.                                                        duplicate services internal to     Additionally, the F-
                                 Further, any delay to E-                                                         their programs vice using a             15EX will be
                                     7 procurement will                                                           centrally created set which           constrained to
                                  materially impact our                                                        standards with their resourced   primarily employing air-
                                    capacity to execute                                                            requirements; complicating     to-air munitions (as
                                           airpower and                                                          integration in the joint war      large air-to-ground
                                       consequently our                                                                                fight.    weapons can otherwise
                                      ability to enable                                                                                             only be carried on
                                      joint, all-domain                                                                                                    Station 5).
                                  operations. This puts
                                        our forces at a
                                       disadvantage and
                                           empowers our
                                       adversaries as a
                                                result.
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48           General Brown, are         The AF is still   The Air Force is still   The Air Force is still       The AF is still preparing the          The AF is still          The AF is still
                there plans to     preparing the fiscal     preparing the fiscal     preparing the fiscal        fiscal year 2025 budget, and     preparing the fiscal     preparing the fiscal
             include this item     year 2025 budget and     year 2025 budget and    year 2025 budget, and          content is pre-decisional.    year 2025 budget, and    year 2025 budget, and
             in the fiscal year         content is pre-          content is pre-          content is pre-                                              content is pre-          content is pre-
             2025 base budget?              decisional.              decisional.              decisional.                                                  decisional.              decisional.
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49           General Brown, why    The fiscal year 2024      The Air Force has a    While this upgrade is         This digital infrastructure    While this upgrade is    While this capability
                   was this UPL not  President's Budget            long range MILCON thimportant, the Air           improvement is absolutely       important, the Air     is important, the AF
               included in the         prioritized many       plan spans several        Force prioritized         important. However, we must        Force prioritized     needed to prioritize
              Fiscal Year 2024          critical future            years This UPL contains funding future      balance and prioritize funding           funding future           funding future
             President's Budget       capabilities, and        projects we could        capabilities over      future capabilities and needs.        capabilities over        capabilities over
                   submission?     includes significant        accelerate if the         upgrading legacy   This is an area we can accelerate         upgrading legacy   funding the Agile Comms
                                  investment in the E-7        funding were made   fighters to achieve NDS  work for consistent and secure IT     fighters in order to   Equipment (ACE) to the
                                    program. The fiscal               available.              objectives.    for our networks and our weapons   attempt to achieve NDS        full requirement.
                                           year 2024 UPL request                                                                     systems.                guidance.
                                    will help close the
                                    capability gap more
                                                rapidly
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50              General Brown,   Vendor: Boeing Defense,  The Air Force utilizes           Installation: LockBooz Allen Hamilton; CACI; SAIC;      Prime: BoeingP Sub-       There are multiple
              what is the name   Space & Security. Major    multiple vendors for    MartinP OEM: Northrop                                    LEIDOS; iCvendor: Israeli   vendors. The Air Force
              of the vendor(s)    Sub vendors: Northrop                       MILCON projecst. We Grumman                                         Aerospace Industries     is able to provide a
                executing this      Grumman and Collins   available to provide a                                                                (current Qatari F-15QA      briefing to provide
                  effort? Sub-                              briefing on specific                                                                   conformal fuel tank      additional details.
                    vendor(s)?                                         projects.                                                                             supplier)     Baseband: Iron Bow /
                                                                                                                                                                                Sub PACSTARP MILSATCOM:
                                                                                                                                                                         TBDP Commercial SATCOM:
                                                                                                                                                                           TBD (USSF Contract)P
                                                                                                                                                                                 Tactical Data Links:
                                                                                                                                                                          TBDP JWICS Transport:
                                                                                                                                                                                            TBD
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51           General Brown, how  I do not participate in  I do not participate in  I do not participate in        I do not participate in the   I do not participate in  I do not participate in
                often has your          the acquisition          the acquisition          the acquisition   acquisition decisionmaking process         the acquisition          the acquisition
              command met with   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process      for the Air Force. Acquisition   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
                    the vendor       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.           decisions reside with the       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.
                executing this    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions      Secretary of the Air Force and    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions
                effort? Please          reside with the          reside with the          reside with the             subordinate acquisition          reside with the          reside with the
             provide a list of     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air   authorities within the Department     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air
             all such meetings,   Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate   of the Air Force. The protections    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate
             and the agenda for  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  in place that identify and address  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities
               these meetings?    within the Department    within the Department    within the Department        conflicts of interest in the    within the Department    within the Department
                                  of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The   acquisition decisionmaking process   of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The
                                   protections in place     protections in place     protections in place          also apply to the programs     protections in place     protections in place
                                      that identify and        that identify and        that identify and   contained within the Air Force UPL       that identify and        that identify and
                                   address conflicts of     address conflicts of     address conflicts of               for fiscal year 2024.     address conflicts of     address conflicts of
                                        interest in the          interest in the          interest in the                                              interest in the          interest in the
                                            acquisition              acquisition              acquisition                                                  acquisition              acquisition
                                 decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process                                       decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
                                      also apply to the        also apply to the        also apply to the                                            also apply to the        also apply to the
                                     programs contained       programs contained       programs contained                                           programs contained       programs contained
                                   within the Air Force     within the Air Force     within the Air Force                                         within the Air Force     within the Air Force
                                                     UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year                                          UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year
                                                  2024.                    2024.                    2024.                                                        2024.                    2024.
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52              General Brown,   I do not participate in  I do not participate in  I do not participate in        I do not participate in the   I do not participate in  I do not participate in
                  what is your          the acquisition          the acquisition          the acquisition   acquisition decisionmaking process         the acquisition          the acquisition
             history with this   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process      for the Air Force. Acquisition   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
                vendor? Please       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.           decisions reside with the       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.
               detail when the    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions      Secretary of the Air Force and    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions
                  relationship          reside with the          reside with the          reside with the             subordinate acquisition          reside with the          reside with the
             began, the number     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air   authorities within the Department     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air
                  of contracts    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate   of the Air Force. The protections    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate
                applied for by   acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  in place that identify and address  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities
              this vendor, the    within the Department    within the Department    within the Department        conflicts of interest in the    within the Department    within the Department
                     number of    of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The   acquisition decisionmaking process   of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The
             contracts awarded     protections in place     protections in place     protections in place          also apply to the programs     protections in place     protections in place
               to this vendor,        that identify and        that identify and        that identify and   contained within the Air Force UPL       that identify and        that identify and
               and if you have     address conflicts of     address conflicts of     address conflicts of               for fiscal year 2024.     address conflicts of     address conflicts of
                had a personal          interest in the          interest in the          interest in the                                              interest in the          interest in the
             relationship with              acquisition              acquisition              acquisition                                                  acquisition              acquisition
                   the vendor?   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process                                       decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
                                      also apply to the        also apply to the        also apply to the                                            also apply to the        also apply to the
                                     programs contained       programs contained       programs contained                                           programs contained       programs contained
                                   within the Air Force     within the Air Force     within the Air Force                                         within the Air Force     within the Air Force
                                                     UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year                                          UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year
                                                  2024.                    2024.                    2024.                                                        2024.                    2024.
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53           General Brown, has  I do not participate in  I do not participate in  I do not participate in        I do not participate in the   I do not participate in  I do not participate in
                    anyone who          the acquisition          the acquisition          the acquisition   acquisition decisionmaking process         the acquisition          the acquisition
               formerly worked   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process      for the Air Force. Acquisition   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
              for your command       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.           decisions reside with the       for the Air Force.       for the Air Force.
               represented the    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions      Secretary of the Air Force and    Acquisition decisions    Acquisition decisions
                     vendor in          reside with the          reside with the          reside with the             subordinate acquisition          reside with the          reside with the
             meetings? What is     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air   authorities within the Department     Secretary of the Air     Secretary of the Air
              their name, what    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate   of the Air Force. The protections    Force and subordinate    Force and subordinate
                     was their   acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities  in place that identify and address  acquisition authorities  acquisition authorities
             position, and when   within the Department    within the Department    within the Department        conflicts of interest in the    within the Department    within the Department
             did you meet with    of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The   acquisition decisionmaking process   of the Air Force. The    of the Air Force. The
                         them?     protections in place     protections in place     protections in place          also apply to the programs     protections in place     protections in place
                                      that identify and        that identify and        that identify and   contained within the Air Force UPL       that identify and        that identify and
                                   address conflicts of     address conflicts of     address conflicts of               for fiscal year 2024.     address conflicts of     address conflicts of
                                        interest in the          interest in the          interest in the                                              interest in the          interest in the
                                            acquisition              acquisition              acquisition                                                  acquisition              acquisition
                                 decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process                                       decisionmaking process   decisionmaking process
                                      also apply to the        also apply to the        also apply to the                                            also apply to the        also apply to the
                                     programs contained       programs contained       programs contained                                           programs contained       programs contained
                                   within the Air Force     within the Air Force     within the Air Force                                         within the Air Force     within the Air Force
                                                     UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year                                          UPL for fiscal year      UPL for fiscal year
                                                  2024.                    2024.                    2024.                                                        2024.                    2024.
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54           General Brown, in                If the UPL is funded,       The UPL MILBaltimore, MD; to be    There is work being done on this                     St. LouContract details are to
              which city/State            the Air Force         would execute in     delivered to Active,   effort across mutliple states and          delivered with Lot 5   be determined and
                   will the UPL banticipates awarding a      multiple states and   Guard, and Reserve Air         cities with remote workers.                aircraft.    executed from Hanscom
                     executed?       contract to Boeing        countries. Please             Force bases.    Primary hubs are in San Antonio,                                           AFB, MA
                                       Defense, Space &         reference the UPL                                  Texas; Rome, New York, and
                                   Security. Components                       MILCON prioritized list                          Washington DC.
                                 for E-7 long-lead parts          for locations.
                                 come from many states.
                                 The major contributors
                                 are Washington, Kansas,
                                    Ohio, Maryland, and
                                              Oklahoma.
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55           General Brown, is            The Research,    There are no existing    Yes, contract is with         There are multiple existing   No. The requirement is   This is a new contract
              this requirement    Development, Test and               contracts.      Northrop Grumman to         service contracts utilizing       not on an existing        awarded Dec 2022.
                on an existing       Evaluation (RDT&E)                                procure radars and    commercial cloud services, but a                contract.
              contract? If so,       requirement ($37.2                                                  Lockmore detailed data call would be
             with who? What is        million) is on an                             contracted to perform   required in order to furnish this
             the history of the  existing contract. The                                         installs.                        information.
                     contract?     Advanced Procurement
                                      ($596.16 million)
                                     requirement is not
                                 currently on contract.
                                      The RDT&E dollars
                                  ($37.2 million) would
                                   fund requirements on
                                 the existing E-7 Rapid
                                  Prototyping Contract.
                                 That existing contract
                                  was awarded to Boeing
                                       Defense, Space &
                                 Security on 28 Feb 2023
                                     initiating the E-7
                                      Rapid Prototyping
                                      effort. It was an
                                 undefinitized contract
                                    award with a not to
                                   exceed value of $1.2
                                 billion. The Air Force
                                            anticipates
                                      definitizing that
                                 contract in the 2QFY24.
                                       The APAF dollars
                                 ($596.16 million) would
                                      fund a production
                                  requirement, which is
                                    not currently on an
                                 existing contract. The
                                  APAF dollars ($596.16
                                    million) would fund
                                   Advanced Procurement
                                      for E-7 long-lead
                                 components and would go
                                    on a new production
                                   contract with Boeing
                                       Defense, Space &
                                              Security.
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56              General Brown,          The anticipated    The anticipated award   Contract to be awarded        The contracts are already in   To be awarded with the                        NLT 2d quarter fiscal
                   what is the      production contract   date is 3-months after   1Q FY2024 to fund AESA     place; the Air Foce can quickly                         Lot 5 contract iyear 2024
                   anticipated   award date is 3-months                       UPL funding is    installs.    obligate the funding and execute                    2024.
                contract award                 after UPL funding isappropriated.                                                    the work.
                date if the UPL           appropriated.
             receives funding?
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57              General Brown,         The funding line   The Air Force submitted        The funding line       This would execute in Program    This would execute in    This would execute in
             what funding lines  associated with the E-7       21 prioritized MILCON associated with F-16      Element Code (PEC) 027431F and     Program Element Code     Program Element Code
                are associated            is Air Force Line, R-4projects. We can   AESA is Program Element       0305208F. A request has been          (PEC) 0207146F.       (PEC) 0207422F and
                  with this UPL?      (R-1 E-7) Program       provide additional     Code (PEC) 0207133F.    submitted to establish a new PEC                                         0207431F.
                                     Element Code (PEC)         details for each                                          to track execution.
                                      0604007F - RDT&E.    project as requested.
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58           General Brown, if                   The UPL iThe projects can stand    The project can stand    This project can stand alone and   The project would fall    The projects vary and
                      multiple   both RDT&E and Aircraft           on their own.              on its own.    does not rely on other projects.           under aircraft   some can stand on their
                appropriations    Procurement Air Force                                                                                              procurement (3010                     own.
                     fund this     (APAF) funding. Each                                                                                                  Approp) only.
             requirement, must   appropriation can stand
             all appropriations      on its own to fund
                     be funded   certain aspects of the
             simultaneously to             requirement.
                   source this
               requirement, or
                      can each
                 appropriation
              stand on its own
             to fund a portion
                        of the
                  requirement?
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59           General Brown, how     As of 30 April, $22                    No MILCON fundFiscal year 2022           No funding was enacted or   No RDT&E was enacted or     RDT&E funded for in
              much was enacted         million has been     enacted or obligated        $317.164 million;   expended. Funding for ISR Digital     obligated for F-15EX     fiscal year 2023 was
             and obligated (or   oblicated in (FY22) for         related to this         fiscal year 2023   Infrastructure pilots and projects     CFTs in fiscal year                 $16,000.
                  expended for      RDT&E funding, with                 project.         $286.141 million    was sourced from PECs 35022F and      2022 to fiscal year
              RDT&E) in fiscal   $2.1 million expended.                                                                               35208F.                    2023.
                  year 2022 to         In (FY23) $320.2
              fiscal year 2023         million has been
                      for this       obligated in RDT&E
                  requirement?        funds, with $43.9
                                   million expended for
                                              the E-7A.
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60           General Brown, how     The Air Force (DAF)                     None      We requested $174.5     No funding was requested in the        $70.8 million was   The Air Force requested
             much was requested  requested $681 million                                  million for this        fiscal year 2024 President's     requested within the        $1.269 billion in
                in fiscal year   in fiscal year 2024 as                            program in fiscal year   Budget due to fiscal constraints.      AME line for 12 CFT    fiscal year 2024. The
                 2024 for this   the baseline budget for                                            2024.                                       sets, $17.9 million was  request represents the
                  requirement?                 the E-7.                                                                                               requested within        maturation of ACE
                                                                                                                                                Initial Spares line for  concepts and evaluation
                                                                                                                                                 CFT spares, and $16.6             of potential
                                                                                                                                                 million was requested    distributed locations
                                                                                                                                                    within the Support             that require
                                                                                                                                                Equipment line for CFT              significant
                                                                                                                                                                   SE.           infrastructure
                                                                                                                                                                                  improvements.
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61           General Brown, is                   The UPL funds long lead      MILCONYes, funds are needed   Additional details can be provided        There is no tail   The FYDP will continue
                  there a tail   time parts such as the   feasibility studies and     fiscal year 2024 to        if Congress appropriates the   accociated with F-15EX    to request funding to
               associated with         green Boeing 737    design money prior to      fiscal year 2029 to                              funds.                    CFTs.     mature ACE concepts.
                       this UPL?  aircraft and the MESA     executing a project.   complete the full F-16
                                     radar. Procurement                                     AESA program.
                                 funding is required in
                                    fiscal year 2025 to
                                           complete the
                                     integration of the
                                     mission systems on
                                        these aircraft.
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62           General Brown, is          The AF is still    There is no projected          The AF is still           Additional details can be    No CFT tail is funded   The FYDP will continue
             any tail funded in    preparing the fiscal     tail funding for the     preparing the fiscal   provided if Congress appropriates             in the FYDP.    to request funding to
              the future years     year 2025 budget and                       MILCON.year 2025 budget and                          the funds.                              mature ACE concepts.
              defense program?          content is pre-                                   content is pre-
                                            decisional.                                       decisional.
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63              General Brown,     DAF is continuing to    The requriements will         AESA radars have   The Air Force would like to offer    The Air Force has not     The fiscal year 2025
               please describe   refine its requirements  be determined by force   already been purchased.         a brief on the ISR Digital   yet determined if CFTs   POM and FYDP associated
                  how much the      in the future years    structure changes and      fiscal year 2024 UPL  Infrastructure initiative in order    are required for the   is pre-decisional. The
              requirement will   defense program (FYDP)            environmental       request is to fund       to provide additional funding     entire F-15EX fleet;   Air Force can provide a
             cost per year for       through our formal             assessments.   installation of the new  details once the fiscal year 2025    however, a report was           brief to offer
             the next 5 years.       processes. The Air                               radars.P If this UPL                budget is released.    delivered to Congress    additional details on
                                 Force will continue to                                item is chosen for                                       detailing the costs and           ACE concepts.
                                      communicate those                            funding, the estimated                                       options to outfit the F-
                                 requirements of the E-7                                     FYDP funding                                        15EX fleet with CFTs.
                                  with Congress and the                            requirements would be:P
                                    committees over the                            fiscal year 2025 $102.6
                                        next few years.                              million; fiscal year
                                 Currently, the service                               2026 $81.6 million;
                                 cost position (SCP) is                            fiscal year 2027 $51.1
                                         being drafted.                              million; fiscal year
                                                                                      2028 $31.3 million;
                                                                                   fiscal year 2029 $21.9
                                                                                                  million
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64              General Brown,     In fiscal year 2022,      The Air Force would     All prior funds were      Fiscal year 2024 was the first   No funding requests for  A total of $77,000 was
             please provide in   the DAF requested $22.2   like to offer a brief         base budget or a   year the Air Force tried to source   F-15EX CFTs have been      enacted for the ACE
                    detail the      million (RDT&E) New    to provide additional   congressional add (for       funding for this requirement.    requested in previous   program in fiscal year
              previous funding   Start to stand up the E-       funding details.       ANG requirements);                                                budgets or UPLs  2023. There are other
                  requests and     7 program office and                            nothing has been funded                                                                  capabilities funded
              enacted for this   its personnel. Congress                                    on a prior UPL.                                                              seperately that funded
                  requirement,       appropriated $22.2                                                                                                                                    ACE.
               including if it   million. In fiscal year
               was in the base   2023, the DAF requested
                  budget or UPL. $226.8 million (RDT&E)
                                  for the E-7A program,
                                           and Congress
                                    appropriated $426.8
                                               million.
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65           General Brown, if       The Air Force will         The Air Force is         The Air Force is      The Air Force is preparing the         The Air Force is       The Air Force must
             the requirement is    continue to fund E-7     preparing the fiscal     preparing the fiscal        fiscal year 2025 budget, and     preparing the fiscal     invest in additional
               not included in   capabilities in future    year 2025 budget, and    year 2025 budget, and          content is pre-decisional.    year 2025 budget, and         capabilities and
              the future years        years. However to          content is pre-          content is pre-                                              content is pre-       formalize training
             defense plan, will  accelerate procurement              decisional.              decisional.                                                  decisional.     programs to field an
             that be rectified   funding, the Air Force                                                                                                                   agile force that sets
                   in the next    must invest in fiscal                                                                                                                         the theater and
             Program Objective    year 2024 to increase                                                                                                                  establishes distributed
             Memorandum or the   future capabilities and                                                                                                                   command and control.
             Program, Planning,       mitigate delivery                                                                                                                   Funding requests will
                   Budget, and                  delays.                                                                                                                    decrease in the FYDP
              Execution (PPBE)                                                                                                                                                but there will be
                        cycle?                                                                                                                                           additional investments.
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66              General Brown,        Please see photos                      N/A        Please see photos                                 N/A        Please see photos                      N/A
                please provide                   below.                                            below.                                                       below.
                photos of this
               requirement for
                   visual aid.
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    66. General Brown, please provide photos of this 
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