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                                                        S. Hrg. 118-604

                     PROMOTING SAFETY, INNOVATION,
                      AND COMPETITIVENESS IN U.S.
                   COMMERCIAL HUMAN SPACE ACTIVITIES

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                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

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                            OCTOBER 18, 2023

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       SENATE COMMITTEE ON COMMERCE, SCIENCE, AND TRANSPORTATION

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             FIRST SESSION

                   MARIA CANTWELL, Washington, Chair
                   
AMY KLOBUCHAR, Minnesota             TED CRUZ, Texas, Ranking
BRIAN SCHATZ, Hawaii                 JOHN THUNE, South Dakota
EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts         ROGER WICKER, Mississippi
GARY PETERS, Michigan                DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
TAMMY BALDWIN, Wisconsin             JERRY MORAN, Kansas
TAMMY DUCKWORTH, Illinois            DAN SULLIVAN, Alaska
JON TESTER, Montana                  MARSHA BLACKBURN, Tennessee
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              TODD YOUNG, Indiana
JACKY ROSEN, Nevada                  TED BUDD, North Carolina
BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico            ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri
JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado          J. D. VANCE, Ohio
RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia             SHELLEY MOORE CAPITO, West 
PETER WELCH, Vermont                     Virginia
                                     CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming
                   Lila Harper Helms, Staff Director
                 Melissa Porter, Deputy Staff Director
                     Jonathan Hale, General Counsel
                 Brad Grantz, Republican Staff Director
           Nicole Christus, Republican Deputy Staff Director
                     Liam McKenna, General Counsel
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                   SUBCOMMITTEE ON SPACE AND SCIENCE

KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona, Chair       ERIC SCHMITT, Missouri, Ranking
EDWARD MARKEY, Massachusetts         DEB FISCHER, Nebraska
GARY PETERS, Michigan                J. D. VANCE, Ohio
BEN RAY LUJAN, New Mexico            CYNTHIA LUMMIS, Wyoming
JOHN HICKENLOOPER, Colorado
                           
                           C O N T E N T S

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Hearing held on October 18, 2023.................................     1
Statement of Senator Sinema......................................     1
Statement of Senator Schmitt.....................................     3
Statement of Senator Cruz........................................    44
Statement of Senator Peters......................................    48
Statement of Senator Hickenlooper................................    49
Statement of Senator Lujan.......................................    51
Statement of Senator Cantwell....................................    54
    Prepared statement...........................................    57

                               Witnesses

Caryn Schenewerk, President, CS Consulting, LLC..................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................     6
Brigadier General (USAF ret) Wayne Monteith, Former FAA Associate 
  Administrator, Office of Commercial Space Transportation.......    14
    Prepared statement...........................................    15
Sirisha Bandla, Vice President of Government Affairs and 
  Research, Virgin Galactic......................................    17
    Prepared statement...........................................    19
William H. Gerstenmaier, Vice President, Build & Flight 
  Reliability, Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX).....    23
    Prepared statement...........................................    25
Phil Joyce, Senior Vice President, New Shepard Business Unit, 
  Blue Origin....................................................    34
    Prepared statement...........................................    35

                                Appendix

Response to written questions to Caryn Schenewerk submitted by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    59
    Hon. Kyrsten Sinema..........................................    60
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    62
    Hon. J. D. Vance.............................................    65
Response to written questions submitted to Wayne Monteith by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    68
    Hon. Kyrsten Sinema..........................................    69
    Hon. John Hickenlooper.......................................    70
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    70
    Hon. J. D. Vance.............................................    73
Response to written questions to Sirisha Bandla submitted by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    75
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    77
    Hon. J. D. Vance.............................................    78
Response to written questions submitted to William H. 
  Gerstenmaier by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    80
    Hon. Kyrsten Sinema..........................................    82
    Hon. John Hickenlooper.......................................    82
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    83
    Hon. J. D. Vance.............................................    86
Response to written questions submitted to Phil Joyce by:
    Hon. Maria Cantwell..........................................    88
    Hon. Kyrsten Sinema..........................................    90
    Hon. John Hickenlooper.......................................    91
    Hon. Ted Cruz................................................    91
    Hon. J. D. Vance.............................................    94

 
                     PROMOTING SAFETY, INNOVATION,
                      AND COMPETITIVENESS IN U.S.
                   COMMERCIAL HUMAN SPACE ACTIVITIES

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                      WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2023

                               U.S. Senate,
                 Subcommittee on Space and Science,
        Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 2 p.m., in 
room SR-253, Russell Senate Office Building, Hon. Kyrsten 
Sinema, Chairman of the Subcommittee, presiding.
    Present: Senators Sinema [presiding], Cantwell, Peters, 
Lujan, Hickenlooper, Schmitt, and Cruz.

           OPENING STATEMENT OF HON. KYRSTEN SINEMA, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM ARIZONA

    Senator Sinema. This subcommittee is now in order. Welcome, 
everyone, to our hearing of the U.S. Senate Space and Science 
Subcommittee. Thank you to each of our witnesses for their 
participation today.
    Thanks to Subcommittee Ranking Member Schmitt for working 
with me on these issues, and to Chair Cantwell and Ranking 
Member Cruz for their collaboration. Today's hearing comes at a 
critical time for the commercial space industry. Bold, 
flexible, bipartisan policies have fostered U.S. commercial 
space from its infancy to the world's gold standard of today.
    It is not a coincidence that the United States is about the 
only country where private companies are engaged in human 
spaceflight and the world leader in space innovation and 
development.
    Continued American leadership depends on a robust private 
sector. Space innovation is no longer the exclusive domain of 
the Government. As private companies bring private citizens to 
space, we can see the immense potential of commercial human 
spaceflight.
    Commercial space activities can now go from theoretical to 
very real at lightning speed. Commercial space companies right 
now employ thousands of Americans, have nationwide supply 
chains, and leverage the already immense economic impact of 
Government space operations.
    America's private space efforts are all the more critical, 
with increasing global investments in space, including from 
foreign competitors and adversaries like Russia and China. My 
home State of Arizona continues its space leadership with 
significant commercial space investment.
    Virgin Galactic's massive manufacturing complex in Mesa is 
set to be operational next year, and I am looking forward to 
seeing the new Delta fleet roll out in time for 2025 flight 
testing. That means meaningful careers for Arizonans and a 
tremendous boost to the local economy.
    Earlier this year, Blue Origin opened a 43,000 square foot 
office in Phoenix, taking advantage of the region's excellent 
engineering talent to further its avionics systems engineering 
and supply chain management, and I am sure the breathtaking 
mountain views don't hurt.
    Along with hundreds of employees, Blue Origin is also 
investing hundreds of millions of dollars in local Arizona 
firms to support all of its programs, including commercial 
human spaceflight. These investments follow recent large scale 
expansions of existing facilities by Northrop Grumman and 
Boeing.
    My alma mater, Arizona State University, launched New 
Space, an unprecedented collaboration effort integrating 
academic and commercial space enterprises. Now, SpaceX may not 
yet have Arizona facilities, but it did successfully launch the 
ASU led Psyche spacecraft on one of its Falcon heavy rockets 
just last Friday, and all of this investment benefits from 
public space projects.
    In Arizona alone, NASA accounted for over $700 million and 
over 3,800 jobs in 2021. Progress in commercial space finds us 
at the dawn of a new space age. Much of the industry, 
particularly human spaceflight, is just now entering phases of 
rapid development.
    Commercial human spaceflight did not become a regular 
occurrence until the last few years, and I am glad to have all 
three private companies currently flying humans into space here 
today so we can hear how the Government can help boost and 
safeguard your operations.
    Congress finds itself with a unique opportunity to help 
grow an industry with vast potential and important 
responsibility to do so carefully. We must maintain U.S. 
leadership by ensuring our space industry retains the freedom 
to innovate without compromising safety.
    We must draw on prior experience and take the same 
enterprising, pioneering approach to commercial space that has 
served us so well in earlier generations. We need to streamline 
authorization processes, enable a workable safety framework for 
in-space operations, and clearly define proper responsibilities 
for Government agencies in commercial space.
    I believe this requires a flexible regulatory environment 
able to attack the issues of today head on without compromising 
adaptability for the issues of tomorrow. We must address the 
learning period, mission authorization, and other pressing 
matters in a way that looks ahead to the future with unknown 
capabilities.
    To do this, we need to account for the diversity of 
operations in commercial space and the human spaceflight 
industry. Our three industry representatives today show how 
there is no singular approach to human spaceflight. Laws and 
regulations must account for diversity without sacrificing 
efficiency.
    To maintain our leadership and competitiveness in the 
growing commercial space economy, we will also need a strong 
workforce to support it. I am passionate about making sure that 
Americans and Arizonans have rewarding careers to choose from 
when graduating either from a certificate program, vocational 
school, or with advanced degrees.
    Encouraging public, private partnerships and leveraging 
existing expertise of entities like NASA will be critical. 
Regulators must also be given proper resources to keep pace 
with growing industry. We cannot expect any regulatory 
framework to function without the necessary expertise to 
oversee such a complex industry.
    So, thank you. And I will now turn to Ranking Member 
Shitt--Schmitt for this opening statement.

                STATEMENT OF HON. ERIC SCHMITT, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM MISSOURI

    [Laughter.]
    Senator Schmitt. It is not the first time that has 
happened.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Sinema. It is actually----
    Senator Schmitt. It is the first time here.
    Senator Sinema. It is actually not the first time today.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Schmitt. You are right. I have been called worse.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Sinema. You are recognized.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank you to 
the witnesses for joining us here today. My home State of 
Missouri has helped chart the path of human exploration.
    As the gateway to the West, Lewis and Clark set out from 
Saint Charles, Missouri, at the confluence of the Missouri and 
Mississippi Rivers to further our Nation's Westward expansion 
to the Pacific Ocean.
    Additionally, Marshfield, Missouri's native son Edwin 
Hubble, proved that there were galaxies beyond the Milky Way, 
offering new realms of discovery. America's drive for exploring 
the unknown has always been a unifying force for our country, 
and our Nation has and always should be at the forefront of 
exploration, period.
    Dating back to the advent of the space race and human 
exploration in the Mercury missions, the need for the U.S. to 
be the preeminent leader in space has been critical to our 
national and economic security.
    Then Russia was our key adversary. Today it is China. The 
U.S. is privileged to have some of the foremost aerospace 
companies in the world, with three of them represented in front 
of us here today.
    As Ranking Member of the Space and Science subcommittee, I 
want to do everything in my power to leverage the abilities and 
innovation of the U.S. company--of those U.S. companies in 
order to maintain American space dominance.
    When considering new frameworks for regulation in space, it 
is imperative that the appropriate agencies develop thoughtful, 
light touch standards for the development and deployment of 
technologies of suborbital, orbital, cislunar, and lunar 
commercial operations.
    Innovation thrives under light touch regulations, not the 
heavy hand of Government. The FAA's moratorium on regulating 
commercial spaceflight operations, otherwise known as the 
learning period, is set to expire on January 1, 2024.
    The learning period has afforded us the robust commercial 
spaceflight industry we have here today. It is important that 
that learning period be extended to provide both industry and 
the FAA enough time and data to establish an appropriate off 
ramp to a more permanent framework for the commercial space 
industry.
    We must also streamline and reform existing regulations 
within the FAA and the Department of Commerce to refocus our 
Federal agencies' core functions on top of timely licensing and 
safety to ensure that the American companies lead the world.
    I have led efforts here in the Senate with my colleagues, 
Senator Hickenlooper, to streamline the FCC's role in spectrum 
licensing for commercial space launch and reentry to provide a 
more certain and timely licensing process that keeps pace with 
the increased launch and reentry demands of the commercial 
space industry.
    That bill has passed committee and I hope we can get it 
passed on the floor actually this week. I intend to take that 
same approach in an approach that emphasizes timely review and 
approval of licenses and certifications when it comes to the 
processes at the FAA and the Department of Commerce.
    Additionally, it is important that the larger commercial 
space industry has regulatory certainty and clarity to plan for 
the future, to head off the larger threat of China and our 
adversaries in space.
    If Federal agencies continue to stray from their core 
functions or add to the current bureaucratic mess, we could 
very well see valuable American companies leave our shores. I 
for one, and I know my colleagues join me in not wanting to see 
that happen.
    I believe that those agencies play an important and 
critical role in commercial space development. However, when 
agencies start stepping in overreach, it becomes unclear what 
the agency guidance actually is and who is in charge of what.
    We only further put ourselves at a disadvantage. Congress 
should not stand idly by and watch agency turf wars. We must be 
clear eyed about the goal, stopping China through American 
space dominance.
    To me, nothing could be more important. Madam Chair, as we 
look to the new frontier of space exploration and future 
generations, America must be the first back to the moon. The 
first nation to set foot on Mars. The first nation to capture 
and harness the resources of the galactic asteroids.
    These goals are vital to the next stage of human curiosity. 
Our future generations depend on us to get this right. I look 
forward to hearing from the witnesses here today to ensure this 
committee develops a thoughtful and balanced approach to any 
future commercial space exploration bill or commercial space 
bill that promotes, not hinders, American industry. I yield 
back.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. I am now going to introduce our 
witnesses for today's hearing. Our first witness is Caryn 
Schenewerk. Ms. Schenewerk is the President of CS Consulting 
and an adjunct Space Law Professor at Georgetown University Law 
Center.
    She was formerly the Vice President for Government Affairs 
at Relativity Space and spent 10 years at SpaceX. You are 
recognized for your opening statement.

           STATEMENT OF CARYN SCHENEWERK, PRESIDENT, 
                       CS CONSULTING, LLC

    Ms. Schenewerk. Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, and 
distinguished members of the Committee, thank you for inviting 
me to share my perspective on the U.S. commercial space 
industry.
    I am honored to appear before the Committee in my personal 
capacity, and I am not representing any company or client's 
views. My testimony is focused on a few key points regarding 
U.S. space law and policy governing private space activities.
    I hope to convey that space is highly regulated and that 
maintaining America's competitive edge in space is increasingly 
dependent on improving and streamlining existing regulatory 
processes. It also depends on our ability to develop an 
efficient and effective approach to authorizing exciting new or 
so-called novel space activities.
    My first point, the U.S. space industry is highly regulated 
and encompasses a diverse range of activities with different 
levels of maturity and customers. As such, it operates in 
accordance with a multitude of local, State, and Federal laws, 
and depending on where companies operate, they may also be 
subject to foreign laws. U.S. space companies are licensed 
based on their primary activities, launch, reentry, remote 
sensing, and telecommunications, by the FAA, NOAH, and FCC, 
respectively.
    That said, each of those activities may also require 
licenses from one or both of the non-primary agencies. 
Importantly, we do not have a one stop shop approach to 
licensing space activities. Second, launch and reentry 
companies are subject to U.S. law no matter where they operate, 
and an efficient approach to regulating them is crucial to 
their success.
    Such jurisdiction was established in the 1994 Commercial 
Space Launch Act and conforms to the United States' 
international treaty obligations. The primary focus of the CSLA 
based licensing regulations and review for launch and reentry 
is public safety, which requires the FAA to review the design, 
operation, and testing of a vehicle's flight safety system, as 
well as aspects like vehicle hazards, including debris, toxic 
release, and overpressure.
    As outlined in my written statement, obtaining a launch or 
reentry license is an extensive, multi-year effort. Recent 
changes to the FAA's regulations have not resulted in 
streamlined licensing reviews. Instead, Part 450 has proven 
more cumbersome and costly. To date, only four licenses have 
been issued under Part 450, and at least two of those exceeded 
the FAA's 180 day statutory timeline.
    With respect to human spaceflight, the learning period or 
moratorium does not limit all regulatory oversight. For 
example, the FAA regulates to protect crew members because they 
are part of a vehicle's flight safety system, which falls 
within FAA's public safety authority.
    There are regulations regarding spaceflight participants as 
well, including their training and their acceptance of risk. 
Given the limited number of private human spaceflights, 3 
orbital and 10 suborbital, the ongoing opportunities for 
thoughtful engagement between the FAA and industry, as well as 
the FAA's challenges with implementing its existing 
regulations, the original premise underpinning the learning 
period still appear solid.
    Next, I would like to focus on novel activities, an 
emerging aspect of the space market. These include in-space 
servicing, assembly and manufacturing, in-space destinations 
such as private LEO space stations, and Moon or Mars based 
capabilities.
    These are exciting endeavors that do not clearly fall 
within FAA, FCC, or NOAA's licensing regimes. Significant 
support exists for the Commerce Department's Office of 
Commercial Space having mission authority over novel space 
activities. I recommend that this committee support efforts to 
clarify agency authorities in a manner that is appropriate to 
the in-space activities and ensure that any regulatory regime 
is well-defined.
    Continued uncertainty will diminish U.S. space leadership 
and is costly to companies developing these novel and necessary 
capabilities. Last, effective regulatory regimes require 
resourced, trained, and organized regulators who engage 
meaningfully with cutting edge innovations.
    U.S. space law and policy--U.S. space policy and legal 
oversight is extensive, and we must continuously work to make 
sure its implementation is keeping pace with industry's rapid 
technological and scientific advances. Sometimes the safest 
approach may not look like the status quo.
    As the Committee considers commercial space legislation, it 
has the opportunity to continue U.S. leadership in diminishing 
regulatory uncertainty, while facilitating continued space 
safety, innovation, and competitiveness.
    Thank you for the time you are investing in developing 
balanced and thoughtful legislation. I look forward to your 
questions.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Schenewerk follows:]

 Prepared Statement of Caryn Schenewerk \1\, President, CS Consulting, 
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    \1\ This testimony is provided in my personal capacity; it does not 
represent any company or clients' views. It does rely, in part, on 
Steve Mirmina & Caryn Schenewerk, International Space Law and Space 
Laws of the United States (Cheltenham, UK; Northampton, MA: Edward 
Elgar, 2022).
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    Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, and distinguished members of 
the Committee: thank you for inviting me to share my perspective on the 
U.S. commercial space industry, particularly the importance of 
effective, streamlined regulations that promote safety, innovation and 
competitiveness.
    The U.S. commercial space industry is rapidly innovating and on a 
growth trajectory relative to the world-wide space market.\2\ The 
commercial space market includes international and domestic space 
services, which are dominated by in-space activities, namely satellite-
based services and their supporting ground systems.\3\ The U.S. segment 
of that market is growing as is the U.S. segment of the launch services 
market.\4\
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    \2\ State of the Satellite Industry Report, SIA (2022) https://
sia.org/news-resources/state-of-the-satellite-industry-report/.
    \3\ Ibid.
    \4\ The commercial launch market includes launch services provided 
to international commercial companies as well as foreign governments in 
accordance with U.S. export control laws.
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    U.S. space companies are represented in all aspects of the 
international space economy as well as in the U.S. civil and national 
security space markets. U.S. commercial space companies are providing 
Astronaut carriage and cargo delivery to the International Space 
Station under contract with NASA. Notably the U.S. is the only country 
where private human spaceflight activities are currently occurring. The 
U.S. is also leading in the development of novel, space technologies, 
including commercial human destinations in Earth's orbit; in-space 
satellite servicing, assembly and manufacturing; lunar landers and 
rovers; and nuclear thermal propulsion.
    Forward-looking policies that were implemented decades ago and 
thoughtfully extended and expanded, particularly the Commercial Space 
Launch Act, have significantly contributed to the U.S. commercial space 
industry's success. When the CSLA was originally codified in 1994, it 
was in anticipation of commercial launch, it did not yet include 
reentry or human spaceflight. Congress focused on the near-term issue 
and devised a tailored solution that has since been updated as the 
industry has evolved. As this Committee contemplates the oversight of 
emerging, commercial endeavors in space, a similarly tailored, flexible 
approach that can be updated as innovation and space exploration evolve 
will continue to serve the country's interest in maintaining its 
competitiveness, developing capabilities that advance our national 
security, and fostering safety.
    The focus of my testimony will be U.S. Government oversight of 
commercial space activities, particularly the authorities granted under 
the Commercial Space Launch Act (CSLA), as amended. The intent is to 
provide the Committee with historical and legal context as well as a 
review of key space regulations and their implementation in order to 
inform its efforts to develop legislation that results in balanced and 
thoughtful regulations.
The U.S. space industry is highly regulated.
    The companies that comprise the U.S. commercial space industry are 
regulated by a multitude of Federal agencies as well as state and local 
governments. They may also be regulated by foreign governments, 
depending on where they are operating or providing services. The 
jurisdictions and resulting U.S. Federal regulations are defined for 
certain companies based on their primary activities--launch, reentry, 
remote sensing, and telecommunications are regulated by the FAA, NOAA 
and FCC, respectively. That said, each of those activities may also 
require licenses from one or both of the non-primary regulating agency. 
In other words, an activity that is licensed by the FAA may also 
require a FCC and/or NOAA license.
    If the space activity is ``novel'' such as in-space servicing, 
assembly, manufacturing or in-space destinations, such as LEO habitats 
or based on the moon or Mars, then it does not clearly fall within the 
licensing regimes of the three above-listed agencies. These novel 
activities have been the focus of National Space Council discussions in 
this and the last Administration. Significant support exists for the 
Department of Commerce's Office of Commercial Space having ``mission 
authority.'' I recommend that this Committee support efforts to clarify 
agency authorities in a manner that is appropriate to the in-space 
activities and ensure that any regulatory regime is clearly defined. 
Continued uncertainty will diminish U.S. space leadership and is costly 
to companies developing these novel and necessary capabilities.
    In addition to regulations governing companies' space activities, 
their manufacturing activities, facilities and test sites are regulated 
by federal, state and local regulations governing environmental, labor 
and transportation activities, among others. For example, when 
companies ship space systems \5\ by road, air or sea, they are subject 
to state and Federal transportation and safety regulations overseen by 
state departments of transportation, the U.S. DOT Pipeline and 
Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA), Federal Aviation 
Administration, and U.S. Coast Guard. When companies utilize legacy 
U.S. government capabilities such as launch sites or test stands on 
U.S. Space Force or NASA facilities, for example, they are subject to 
the controlling agency's rules and requirements.
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    \5\ Launch vehicle, reentry vehicles, satellites, and other space 
hardware.
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    U.S. space companies are also subject to Federal laws governing 
international trade in goods and services as well as foreign 
investment. U.S. export control laws governing space activities include 
the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), which controls 
the export and import of defense-related articles and services on the 
United States Munitions List (USML) and is administered by the 
Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC) within the U.S. State 
Department. Activities and aerospace hardware not subject to the ITAR 
may be subject to Export Administration Regulations (EAR) under the 
Commerce Control List (CCL) administered by the Department of 
Commerce's Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS). Companies must also 
comply with the Office of Foreign Assets Control's various sanctions 
programs as well as the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United 
States' regulations.
International Space Law History & Context
    In 1958, one year after Sputnik 1, the United Nations (UN) created 
an Outer Space Affairs Division. Also in 1958, the UN convened a 
Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space (COPUOS), which was made 
a permanent committee of the UN General Assembly one year later and 
still functions. COPUOS has been the primary source for the drafting of 
international space Law.
The UN Outer Space Treaties
    COPUOS began drafting a series of UN General Assembly resolutions 
in the early 1960s regarding outer space, culminating in what 
crystallized in 1967 as the Treaty on Principles Governing the 
Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, 
including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies (Outer Space Treaty or 
OST).\6\ More than 100 States are Party to the OST,\7\ including major 
spacefaring nations such as Russia and China. The OST is the primary 
international legal instrument governing activities in outer space. 
This Treaty also provides the impetus for most nations around the world 
to draft their own domestic space laws and regulations.
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    \6\ Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the 
Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other 
Celestial Bodies (1967), 610 U.N.T.S. 205, 18 U.S.T. 2410.
    \7\ The list on the status of international agreements relating to 
activities in outer space is compiled and distributed by the United 
Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs, available online at https://
www.unoosa.org/oosa/en/ourwork/spacelaw/treaties/status/index.html.
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    The Treaty establishes several fundamental principles:

   the exploration and use of outer space shall be carried out 
        for the benefit and in the interests of all States and shall be 
        the province of all humankind;

   outer space shall be free for exploration and use by all 
        States;

   outer space is not subject to national appropriation by 
        claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any 
        other means;

   States shall not place nuclear weapons or other weapons of 
        mass destruction in orbit or on celestial bodies or station 
        them in outer space in any other manner;

   the Moon and other celestial bodies shall be used 
        exclusively for peaceful purposes;

   astronauts shall be regarded as the envoys of humankind;

   States shall be responsible for national space activities 
        whether carried out by governmental or non-governmental 
        entities;

   States shall be liable for damage caused by their space 
        objects; and

   States shall avoid harmful contamination of space and 
        celestial bodies.

    The OST does not contain a definition or delimitation of ``outer 
space.'' It does, however, make clear that many of its terms apply to 
not only the celestial bodies themselves, but also to all of the 
``space'' between them.
    The OST was followed by four additional Space Law treaties over the 
next 13 years. The first of these, which concluded in 1968, was the 
Agreement on the Rescue of Astronauts, the Return of Astronauts, and 
the Return of Objects Launched into Outer Space (Rescue Agreement).\8\ 
The OST and Rescue Agreement were followed by the Convention on 
International Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects (Liability 
Convention) in 1972.\9\ This Convention addresses the question of 
liability for damage caused by space objects--absolute liability for 
damage ``on the surface of Earth or to an aircraft in flight,'' versus 
fault-based liability for damage caused in space.\10\ In 1974, another 
space-related treaty came into force, the Convention on Registration of 
Objects Launched into Outer Space (Registration Convention).\11\ The 
Registration Convention creates an obligation to register spacecraft as 
a means to assist in the identification of space objects.
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    \8\ Agreement on the Rescue of Astronauts, the Return of 
Astronauts, and the Return of Objects Launched into Outer Space (1968), 
672 U.N.T.S. 119; 19 U.S.T. 7570; 7 I.L.M. 149 (1968).
    \9\ The Convention on International Liability for Damage Caused by 
Space Objects (1972), 961 U.N.T.S. 187; 24 U.S.T. 2389; 10 I.L.M. 965 
(1971).
    \10\ Ibid.
    \11\ Convention on Registration of Objects Launched into Outer 
Space (1974), 1023 U.N.T.S. 15; 28 U.S.T. 695; 14 I.L.M. 43 (1975).
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United States Space Laws
    The U.S. supervises the activities of its nationals in outer space 
through a combination of statutes and regulations. These laws implement 
the international obligations undertaken pursuant to the Outer Space 
Treaties, including the requirement in Article VI of the OST that 
States must provide ``authorization and continuing supervision'' of 
their nationals' activities in outer space.
    As noted previously, there are numerous Federal statutes that 
govern activities in outer space. For example, the Commercial Space 
Launch Competitiveness Act (CSLCA), which governs commercial space 
launch and reentry activities and is the primary focus of my 
testimony.\12\ Other statutes include the Land Remote-Sensing Policy 
Act, which governs commercial remote sensing regulations by the 
Department of Commerce's National Oceanic and Atmospheric 
Administration (NOAA) and the 1934 Communications Act, which created 
the Federal Communications Commission (FCC).
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    \12\ See e.g., 51 U.S.C. Sec. Sec. 50902-50923.
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    These various statues authorize regulations that are found in the 
Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) and dictate the process for obtaining 
U.S. licenses to conduct space activities from the FAA, NOAA and FCC. 
U.S. space activities are also overseen by NASA and the Department of 
Defense (DOD), neither of which regulate commercial activities, though 
they do promulgate regulations governing their own activities.
Commercial Space Launch Act and FAA AST
    The Federal Aviation Administration's Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation (FAA AST)\13\ within the U.S. Department of 
Transportation (DOT) licenses commercial launch and reentry activities, 
as well as spaceports. Unlike the rest of FAA, which is authorized 
under Title 49 ``Transportation,'' of the United States Code, authority 
for FAA AST is located in Title 51, ``National and Commercial Space 
Programs'' and was established by the Commercial Space Launch Act of 
1984 (CSLA).\14\ The CSLA was amended in 1988 to add an indemnification 
regime to limit exposure to third party liability claims. The first 
licensed commercial launches occurred in 1989.\15\ Significant 
amendments to the CSLA followed in 1998,\16\ 2004 \17\ and 2015,\18\ to 
address reusable launch vehicles and reentry licensing; private human 
spaceflight; and resource utilization, respectively.
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    \13\ The Office of Commercial Space Transportation originally 
reported directly to the U.S. Transportation Secretary. In November 
1995 during an agency reorganization, the Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation (FAA AST) was transferred from the Secretary's office to 
the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as the FAA's only space-
focused line of business.
    \14\ About the Office of Commercial Space Transportation, Federal 
Aviation Administration [hereinafter FAA], https://www.faa.gov/about/
office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/. See, 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50901-50923; 
Pub. L. No. 98-575; H.R. 3942, Commercial Space Launch Act, (Oct. 30, 
1984) https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/house-bill/3942.
    \15\ Origins of the Commercial Space Industry, FAA, https://
www.faa.gov/about/history/mile
stones/media/commercial_space_industry.pdf.
    \16\ Pub. L. 105-303.
    \17\ Pub. L. 108-492.
    \18\ Pub. L. 114-90.
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Licensing for Launch, Reentry and Spaceports
    A license is required for a person or entity subject to the FAA 
AST's jurisdiction ``to launch a launch vehicle or to operate a launch 
site or reentry site, or to reenter a reentry vehicle, in the United 
States.'' \19\ A license is also required for a ``citizen of the United 
States'' \20\ when they are operating a launch, reentry or launch/
reentry site outside the United States.\21\ Launch and reentry sites 
are also referred to as spaceports.\22\
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    \19\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50904(a)(1).
    \20\ The definition for who is a ``citizen of the United States'' 
is uniquely defined by 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50902(1)(A)-(C) as: ``(A) an 
individual who is a citizen of the United States; (B) an entity 
organized or existing under the laws of the United States or a State; 
or (C) an entity organized or existing under the laws of a foreign 
country if the controlling interest (as defined by the Secretary of 
Transportation) is held by an individual or entity described in 
subclause (A) or (B) of this clause.''
    \21\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50904(a).
    \22\ Part 420 of Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations 
governs launch site operator licenses (LSOL) site and Part 433 governs 
reentry site operator licenses (RSOL). A spaceport operator can obtain 
a LSOL and a RSOL for the same spaceport. A license to operate a launch 
and/or reentry site authorizes the licensee to offer its site to 
multiple operators. It does not include the license to perform the 
launch or the reentry. The vehicle operator seeking to conduct either 
of those activities must apply and receive a separate license under 
Part 450.
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    FAA's regulations are largely focused on protecting the public. 
Commercial launches, reentries and spaceports may only be regulated, 
``to the extent necessary [. . .] to ensure compliance with 
international obligations of the United States and to protect the 
public health and safety, safety of property, and national security and 
foreign policy interests of the United States.'' \23\ The primary focus 
of the licensing regulations and review is public safety, which 
requires the FAA to review the design, operation, and testing of a 
vehicle's flight safety system as well as vehicle hazards, including 
debris, toxic release and overpressure.\24\ Launches, reentries and 
spaceports are not regulated to protect the entities or people involved 
with the operations--the statute states that the FAA AST is not 
responsible for regulating to ensure mission success or to protect 
those people who are not defined as public.\25\ That is intentionally 
different from the FAA's regulation of aviation activities, which are 
regulated to protect the public as well as everyone involved in the 
flight, particularly paying passengers.\26\ Additionally, FAA AST does 
not have statutory authority to regulate activities conducted on orbit; 
its authority is focused on public safety on Earth and in Earth's 
navigable airspace.\27\
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    \23\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50901(a)(7).
    \24\ The Section 450.101 safety criteria include four categories: 
individual risk, collective risk, aircraft risk, and risk to critical 
assets. For example, the risk associated with launch or reentry to an 
individual member of the public must be less than one in one million 
(Ec 1 x 10-6). Applicants must demonstrate how they will ensure that 
the public is excluded from the hazard area for the FAA to grant the 
license.
    \25\ The FAA defined ``public'' in Sec. 401.5 of 14 C.F.R. 450, to 
mean ``for a particular licensed or permitted launch or reentry, people 
that are not involved in supporting the launch or reentry and includes 
those people who may be located within the launch or reentry site, such 
as visitors, individuals providing goods or services not related to 
launch or reentry processing or flight, and any other operator and its 
personnel.''
    \26\ See, e.g., 49 U.S.C. Sec. 106(g).
    \27\ H. Rept. 108-492, Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act of 
2004; See, 150 Cong. Rec. H703, 2004.


    Figure 1. Process for Issuing Launch and Reentry Licenses.\28\
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    \28\ Getting Started with Licensing, FAA, https://www.faa.gov/
space/licenses/licensing_
process/

    The requirements for receiving a launch or reentry license are 
detailed in Chapter III, Part 450 of the Code of Federal Regulations, 
``Launch and Reentry License Requirement.'' \29\ Part 450 was published 
as a Final Rule in 2020 to streamline regulations that dated back to 
1988. Members of industry raised significant concerns with certain 
aspects of Part 450 when it was published as a Proposed Rule as well as 
with the FAA's approach to the rulemaking.\30\
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    \29\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 450.
    \30\ See Docket Number FAA-2019-0229, StrZeamlined Launch and 
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    FAA's Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee (COMSTAC) 
was tasked with reviewing Part 450 to identify aspects of the 
regulations that require additional clarification or a regulation 
change. That review identified a list of regulations that warrant 
clarification or change. Equally important, COMSTAC and industry 
members reported that Part 450 implementation is proving a significant 
challenge for the FAA and industry. Some of those issues are reflective 
of the downside of performance-based regulations, which require the 
Federal agency to have the expertise and resources to efficiently 
review innovative approaches that may result in a higher level of 
safety, but deviate from past, more familiar approaches. 
Recommendations to address these problems include support for FAA's 
investment in process improvements and staffing in order to improve 
engineering and analysis expertise, communication, and accountability 
with regard to application review and status.
    The elements of a Part 450 licensing process are shown in Figure 1. 
The time frame for Stages 1 and 2 regularly span two to three years or 
longer. To date, the FAA has only issued four licenses under Part 450 
and has exceeded the 180-day review period for at least two of the four 
licenses, resulting in CSLA-required notices to this Committee.
Financial Responsibility and Indemnification
    The Commercial Space Launch Act (CSLA) of 1984 included a 
requirement for licensees to carry liability insurance in an amount 
``necessary for the launch or operation, considering the international 
obligations of the United States.'' \31\ In the 1994 CSLA updates, the 
insurance requirements were expanded and an indemnification regime was 
added.\32\ That bill clarified the license requirement for obtaining 
insurance to cover third party and certain U.S. Government claims 
arising from the licensed activities as codified in 51 U.S.C. 50914, 
``Liability Insurance and Financial Responsibility.'' The required 
insurance is for claims by third parties--the uninvolved public--and 
for damage to United States Government property. Damages have never 
exceeded the required insurance coverage, but if they did, the 
indemnification regime would be triggered. That regime currently 
expires September 30, 2025.
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    \31\ Pub. L. 98-575, Sec. 16.
    \32\ Pub. L. 103-272, Sec. 70112.
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    The financial responsibility regulations are codified in Part 440, 
Financial Responsibility for Licensed Launch Activities.\33\ Earlier 
this year, the FAA recognized the challenges that industry and 
government stakeholders have faced with applying aspects of Part 440 
and initiated an Aerospace Rulemaking Committee (SpARC). I commend the 
FAA in taking this step and am honored to serve as the industry lead 
for the Part 440 SpARC. Our efforts are focused on developing 
recommendations for regulatory reforms to Part 440 to address 
challenges such as launch cadences, innovative operations, a 
specialized and limited insurance market and missions that were not 
originally contemplated. The SpARC has the opportunity to help the FAA 
as it prepares to draft updates to the Part 440 regulations. A 
successful outcome will modernize requirements and ensure that the 
FAA's approach protects the public and U.S. Government interests while 
taking a rational approach to calculating financial responsibility 
requirements and implementing reciprocal waivers of claims.
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    \33\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 440.
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Regulation of Human Spaceflight
    In 1996, the X Prize Foundation offered $10 million for the first 
non-government organization to launch a reusable crewed spacecraft into 
space twice within two weeks. In light of the interest in human 
spaceflight generated by the X Prize, as well as the successful 
demonstration by Scaled Composites,\34\ Congress passed the 2004 
CSLAA.\35\ The CSLAA required that the FAA issue regulations relating 
to crew, space flight participants (SFPs), and permits for launch or 
reentry of reusable suborbital rockets. Additionally, the CSLAA 
introduced the concept of the ``learning period.'' \36\ Although the 
CSLAA granted the FAA authority over the safety of launch vehicles 
designed to carry humans, the ``learning period'' limited the FAA's 
ability to propose requirements governing the design or operation of a 
launch vehicle to protect the health and safety of certain people on 
board. The learning period was set to expire eight years after 
enactment, but has most recently been extended to January 1, 2024.\37\
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    \34\ In 2004, Scaled Composites won the X Prize by being the first 
to finance privately, build, and launch a vehicle able to carry three 
people to an altitude of 100 kilometers (62 statute miles). Launching A 
New Space Industry, X Prize, https://www.xprize.org/prizes/ansari.
    \35\ For a discussion of the law and political landscape 
surrounding the 2004 Space Act, see, Timothy Robert Hughes & Esta 
Rosenberg, Space Travel Law (and Politics): The Evolution of the 
Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act of 2004, 31 J. Space L. 1 
(2005).
    \36\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50905(c)(9).
    \37\ Pub. L. 118-15 Sec. 2202(k)
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    The CSLAA learning period does not limit all regulations regarding 
human spaceflight. For example, the FAA may regulate to protect crew 
members because they are part of a vehicle's flight safety system, 
which falls within FAA's public safety authority. In accordance with 
the CSLAA, the FAA developed 14 C.F.R. part 460, which prescribes the 
human space flight requirements an operator must follow if a launch or 
reentry will occur with people on board the launch or reentry vehicle. 
For launch and reentry with crew, crew members must complete training 
in nominal and off-nominal conditions on how to carry out their role on 
board or on the ground so that the vehicle will not harm the public, 
demonstrate certain abilities during spaceflight and meet medical 
requirements.\38\ Pilots and remote operators must satisfy certain 
additional requirements focused on an understanding of the vehicle and 
an understanding of operating safely in the National Airspace System 
(NAS). Finally, an operator is required to provide environmental 
control and life support systems adequate to sustain life and 
consciousness for all inhabited areas within a vehicle.\39\
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    \38\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.5(a), (b) & (e).
    \39\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.11. See also, Environmental Control and 
Life Support Systems for Flight Crew and Space Flight Participants in 
Suborbital Space Flight, FAA (Apr. 2010) https://
www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/ast/media/ 
final_ECLSS_guide.pdf.
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    For launch and reentry with SFPs, an operator must train each SFP 
before flight on how to respond to emergency situations, including 
smoke, fire, loss of cabin pressure, and emergency exit.\40\ Before 
receiving compensation or making an agreement to fly an SFP, an 
operator must inform the SFP in writing about the risks of launch and 
reentry, including the safety record of the launch or reentry vehicle 
type.\41\ The operator must also provide the SFP an opportunity to ask 
questions orally to better understand the risks and hazards of the 
mission.\42\ The SFP must provide consent in writing.\43\ Finally, an 
SFP must execute a reciprocal waiver of claims with the FAA and the 
licensee in accordance with Part 440 \44\ and 51 U.S.C. 50914.\45\
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    \40\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.51.
    \41\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.45(a).
    \42\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.45(f).
    \43\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.45(f).
    \44\ 14 C.F.R. Sec. 460.49.
    \45\ As part of the Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act 
passed in 2015, Congress added SFPs as applicable parties with whom a 
licensee must make a reciprocal waiver of claims. The FAA has not yet 
updated its regulations to reflect this addition. P.L. 114-119
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    During the learning period, the FAA may also adopt regulations to 
restrict or prohibit design features or operating practices that (1) 
have resulted in a serious or fatal injury to persons on board during a 
licensed or permitted launch or reentry; or (2) contributed to an 
unplanned event or series of events during a licensed or permitted 
commercial human space flight that posed a high risk of causing a 
serious or fatal injury to persons on board.\46\
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    \46\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50905(c)(2)(C).
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    In 2015, the Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act (CSLCA) 
extended the learning period to October 1, 2023, and directed the 
Secretary to ``continue to work with the commercial space sector, 
including the [COMSTAC. . .], to facilitate the development of 
voluntary industry consensus standards based on recommended best 
practices to improve the safety of crew, government astronauts, and 
space flight participants as the [sector] continues to mature.'' \47\
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    Those efforts have been underway--industry has been developing 
consensus standards in the ASTM F47 Committee on Commercial Space. 
Additionally, the FAA has taken a step toward the development of 
regulations by initiating the Part 460 SpARC to review the existing 
regulations governing human space flight activities and in preparation 
for the learning period's possible expiration. That Committee will 
develop consensus recommendations regarding future human space flight 
occupant safety regulations that will inform the FAA's drafting of a 
future Notice of Proposed Rulemaking (NPRM).
    The 2015 CSCLA also clarified FAA's ability ``to discuss potential 
regulatory approaches, potential performance standards, or any other 
topic related to [Section 50905(c)] with the commercial space industry, 
including observations, findings, and recommendations from the 
[COMSTAC], [. . .] prior to the issuance of a notice of proposed 
rulemaking.'' \48\
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    \48\ 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50905(c)(4).
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    Today, the United States is home to the only commercial human 
spaceflight activities currently carrying private citizens on orbital 
and suborbital flights, as represented by the three companies 
participating in this hearing. Given the still limited developments in 
commercial human spaceflight, the on-going opportunities for thoughtful 
engagement between the FAA and industry as well as the FAA's challenges 
with implementing its existing regulations, a learning period extension 
with direction for the FAA to engage meaningfully with industry to 
prepare for oversight responsibilities is warranted.
Mission Authorization for Novel Activities
    U.S. space companies are rapidly innovating to bring new space 
capabilities to market for U.S. Government and non-government customers 
and, in many cases, leading the world in those efforts. Across the 
nation, there are a plethora of companies developing and demonstrating 
exciting in-space capabilities such as satellite servicing and 
maneuverability, private space stations, in-space manufacturing, 
nuclear power and propulsion technologies, and lunar rovers. U.S. 
policymakers should be preparing for these activities to evolve from 
being ``novel'' to defining our space capabilities. To foster those 
capabilities and U.S. competitiveness, companies are requesting 
regulatory certainty. This is not a new problem, but delays in solving 
it are having real consequences for the U.S. space industry and could 
affect our future space leadership.
    The 2020 National Space Policy, as well as industry representatives 
and congressional legislation, have supported granting the Commerce 
Department's Office of Space Commerce (OSC) the authority to approve 
U.S. commercial in-space and in-situ operations, referred to as novel 
or nontraditional activities.\49\ The rationale supporting OSC as the 
primary authorizing agency is sound. The Commerce Department is already 
a regulator of in-space activities that focuses on fostering a robust 
U.S. industry while protecting national security and complying with our 
international treaty obligations.
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    \49\ The National Space Policy, 85 Fed. Reg. 81755 Sec. 5.3.a (Dec. 
9, 2020); Reopening the American Frontier: Exploring How the Outer 
Space Treaty Will Impact American Commerce and Settlement in Space, 
U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation (May 23, 
2017) https://www.commerce.senate.gov/2017/5/reopening-the-american-
frontier-exploring-how
-the-outer-space-treaty-will-impact-american-commerce-and-settlement-
in-space; American Space Commerce Free Enterprise Act, H. R. 2809, 115 
Cong. Sec. 3 (2017).
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    Efficient and effective interagency interactions and consultations 
will be key to a minimally burdensome regime for authorizing in-space 
missions. The interagency process must involve significant 
accountability and transparency married with clear timeframes. The 
widely-supported self-certification approach is a good starting place 
as we guard against an approach that encourages companies to leave the 
United States. As stated earlier, it is vital that agency authorities 
be delegated in a manner that is appropriate to the in-space activities 
being authorized. Modeling an approach on the CSLA would be 
beneficial--it would ensure that near-term capabilities are 
appropriately reviewed in a timely and efficient manner and allow for 
expanding authorities as the industry develops. Instead of trying to 
predict all possible future technologies and potential risks, a 
flexible approach will ensure compliance with our treaty obligations, 
avoid being overly burdensome and foster our national security. Lastly, 
I encourage this Committee to continue to support a streamlined 
approach that avoids duplicative agency oversight, as it has since the 
1994 CSLA.
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    I appreciate the invitation to testify before the Subcommittee 
today. These are exciting times for the U.S. space industry. My 
testimony has only scratched the surface of the space regulatory and 
policy landscape. U.S. space policy and legal oversight is extensive 
and is at its best when it effectively facilitates rapid technological 
and scientific advances while protecting public safety and national 
security interests. As the Committee considers commercial space 
legislation, it has the opportunity to continue U.S. leadership in 
diminishing regulatory uncertainty while facilitating continued space 
safety, innovation and competitiveness.

    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Our second witness today is 
Wayne Monteith. Mr. Monteith is the President and General 
Manager of National Aerospace Solutions and the Vice President 
of Bechtel National.
    He was formerly the FAA Associate Administrator for 
Commercial Space Transportation and a Commander of Air Force 
Space launch activities. You are recognized for your opening 
statement.

  STATEMENT OF WAYNE MONTEITH, PRESIDENT AND GENERAL MANAGER, 
                  NATIONAL AEROSPACE SOLUTIONS

    Mr. Monteith. Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, and 
distinguished members of the Committee, thank you for inviting 
me to appear before this committee once again and share my 
perspectives on this important topic.
    I am appearing today in my personal capacity, and I am not 
representing the views of any company, client, or Government 
entity. My views are heavily influenced by my 29 years of 
active duty service in the United States Air Force, culminating 
as the Commander of the 45th Space Wing in Florida, the 
busiest, most successful spaceport in the world, and my time as 
the previous FAA Associate Administrator for Commercial Space 
Transportation.
    I last appeared before this committee in 2019. The number 
of FAA licensed commercial launch and reentry activities 
increased from 29 that year to 96 already this calendar year, 
more than tripling the cadence of activity. In terms of 
commercial human spaceflight, we went from one in 2019 to eight 
so far in 2023.
    As impressive as these increases are, I expect it to be 
even more dramatic going forward as we continue to place more 
and more satellites on orbit, move from human adventure flights 
to on orbit habitats to the moon and beyond.
    During the same timeframe, the FAA published a new 
streamlined launch and reentry regulation that was envisioned 
to enhance safety and have a lighter regulatory touch, while 
also being more flexible, accommodating to innovation, more 
responsive to the rapid pace of industry change and operational 
timelines, and less burdensome than the existing four 
regulations it was replacing.
    Unfortunately, there are many in industry that would say 
this goal was not achieved. So, I remain concerned that 
continued growth will be negatively impacted by an overly 
burdensome or inefficient regulatory construct or a very public 
catastrophic event involving humans.
    Sound or even perfect regulations and good intentions 
cannot eliminate all risk, but hastily develop regulations or 
an overly risk averse or understaffed regulator can sub-
optimize or eliminate innovation, new entrants, and U.S. global 
leadership.
    As the Committee considers the near and long term future of 
U.S. commercial spaceflight, I would like to offer three 
recommendations for consideration. First, I am not advocating 
for additional regulatory oversight on human spaceflight, but I 
do recommend that any change to the regulatory landscape be 
provided ample time for meaningful collaboration with industry, 
meaningful coordination within the interagency, and enough 
staff for the regulator to meet current obligations while 
providing the appropriate level of effort on the new 
regulation.
    This would be a multi-year process to do correctly. Second, 
I believe a more efficient, one stop shop approach to 
authorizing and licensing space activities is necessary. In 
January 1984--in a January 1984 speech, then Secretary of 
Transportation Elizabeth Dole explained the President wanted to 
stimulate interest in commercial space ventures by removing 
regulatory barriers.
    Secretary Dole said that companies trying to operate in 
space must go through as many as 17 agencies to get appropriate 
permits and licenses. A one stop service would help them cut 
through the thicket of clearances, licenses, and regulations 
that keep industrial space vehicles tethered to their pads. I 
suggest we may not have completely solved the original problem 
that led to the creation of FAA AST.
    Therefore, the Committee may wish to consider exploring 
opportunities to consolidate Government oversight 
responsibilities. Finally, as the Committee is well aware, the 
current regulatory construct for commercial human spaceflight 
is limited by the moratorium or learning period, originally 
established in 2004 and scheduled to sunset yet again in 
January.
    The moratorium for the still nascent sector appropriately 
limits the FAA's regulatory oversight of the health and safety 
of commercial human spaceflight participants. Instead of 
extending the moratorium, I recommend that the Committee 
consider establishing a date in which a new regulation on 
commercial human spaceflight activities may not be published 
sooner than, and then establish a subsequent future date before 
the regulation could actually become effective.
    The process can begin soon to fully and thoughtfully 
develop a regulation with industry, should it be needed, and 
allows Congress the option of delaying the effective date 
should the new rule be early to need.
    Madam Chair, I appreciate your invitation to testify before 
the Committee. It is important that we work through these 
complex issues to ensure an appropriate level of safety and a 
light regulatory touch.
    It is also important that whatever regulatory approach is 
taken, it enables our current industry leaders to continue to 
be safe and successful and allows for the next disruptive 
innovator to successfully enter the market. This will foster 
competition and help ensure the United States continues its 
global leadership in this vital transportation sector.
    Thank you, and I look forward to your questions.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Monteith follows:]

 Prepared Statement of Brigadier General (USAF ret) Wayne Monteith,\1\ 
    Former FAA Associate Administrator, Office of Commercial Space 
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    \1\ This testimony is provided in my personal capacity; it does not 
represent the views of my current employer, any company, client, or 
government entity. It does rely on my experience as the former Federal 
Aviation Administration Associate Administrator for Commercial Space 
Transportation, and as the former Commander of the United States Air 
Force 45th Space Wing.
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    Chairwoman Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, and distinguished 
Members of the Committee: thank you for inviting me to appear before 
this Committee once again and share my perspectives on this important 
topic.
    When I last appeared before you in 2019, I commented that in 2018 
the Office of Commercial Space Transportation, or FAA AST, licensed a 
record number of launches and reentries at 35. I stated that I believed 
future growth in this sector would be even more impressive going 
forward as companies like SpaceX significantly expanded their launch 
rates and new companies like Rocket Lab and Firefly entered the sector. 
And because of this we needed a new, responsive, and flexible 
regulatory construct. One that would enhance safety while enabling 
innovation and continued U.S. global leadership. But also, one that 
would reduce administrative burden and enable rapid change and 
streamline timelines to keep pace with a burgeoning space industry. 
This prediction of future growth has come to fruition.
    The number of FAA AST licensed activities increased from 35 in 2018 
to 84 in 2022, and 95 already in 2023. In 2019 there was one FAA 
licensed commercial human spaceflight mission; so far in 2023 there 
have been 8 flights, and that's even with a major contributor like Blue 
Origin temporarily pausing flight operations. My opinion of the future 
of this sector remains optimistic and I remain confident of continued 
innovation and dramatic growth in commercial human spaceflight.
    However, this continued growth will be negatively impacted by 
either a catastrophic event or an overly burdensome regulatory 
construct. It will also be impacted by an overly risk-averse regulator, 
or even an understaffed regulatory office. These have the potential to 
unnecessarily restrict the success of the U.S. commercial space 
transportation industry, to include commercial human spaceflight. And 
while good regulations and intentions, and even overly conservative 
regulator interpretations of those regulations, cannot eliminate all 
risk, they can sub-optimize or eliminate innovation, new entrants, and 
U.S. global leadership. As the Committee considers the near-and long-
term future of U.S. commercial human spaceflight, I would like to offer 
three recommendations to consider.
    First, in May 2018 Space Policy Directive-2 directed the Department 
of Transportation to issue a new streamlined launch and reentry 
regulation. Just two and a half years later 14 CFR Part 450, the 
Streamlined Launch and Reentry Licensing Requirements regulation, or 
SLR2, was published. Part 450 encompassed four existing regulations 
(Parts 415, 417, 431 and 435) and was an unprecedented space regulatory 
effort. But based on the short development timeline, industry 
involvement in the regulatory process was severely limited. And because 
of this compressed schedule some constructs within Part 450 were not as 
thoroughly vetted as would have been ideal. Based on my experience 
during this effort, the Committee may wish to consider that any new 
regulations concerning commercial human spaceflight should be provided 
with ample time for full and open industry collaboration and 
interagency coordination, and sufficient government resources (i.e., 
staffing) to meet required timelines without negatively impacting 
current regulatory responsibilities.
    Second, there is another potential impediment to continued U.S. 
leadership in this sector and it is what appears to be a movement away 
from the concept of a ``one stop shop'' to receive a license or 
authorization to get to or operate in space. At just a casual glance 
the Office of Commercial Space Transportation, the Office of Space 
Commerce, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, the 
Federal Communications Commission, the National Transportation Safety 
Board, the Department of Defense, the State Department, and the 
National Aeronautics and Space Administration all have some role in 
commercial space activities. In my experience, the more organizations 
involved in an effort, the more likely seams, gaps, and overlaps are 
created. Additionally, there is an increase in administrative burden on 
both government and U.S. industry without a similar increase in safety. 
There is also the potential for greater government inefficiency, which 
will likely cause industry costs to increase, preventing new smaller, 
innovative companies from entering the market. Therefore, the Committee 
may wish to consider exploring whether or not there are opportunities 
to consolidate government oversight responsibilities.
    Finally, as the Committee is well aware, the current construct for 
commercial human spaceflight is limited by the moratorium (learning 
period) originally established in 2004, extended four times by 
Congress, and scheduled to sunset again on 1 January 2024. Under this 
construct, Congress, with few exceptions, limits the FAA's regulatory 
oversight of the health and safety of commercial human spaceflight 
occupants. The FAA operates under an Informed Consent regime to ensure 
participants are fully aware of the risks and hazards involved. To 
support this learning period Congress prohibited the Secretary of 
Transportation from promulgating any regulations governing the design 
or operation of a launch vehicle intended to protect the health and 
safety of crew, government astronauts, and space flight participants 
absent serious or fatal injury, or an unplanned event that posed a high 
risk of serious or fatal injury. To be clear, the FAA does not certify 
launch or reentry vehicles as safe for carrying humans.
    Instead, the FAA with help from the National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration (NASA) just produced an updated Recommended Practices 
for Human Spaceflight Occupant Safety. Recommended practices are 
divided into four categories: general, design, manufacturing, and 
operations. The FAA is working with Standards Development Organizations 
to facilitate development of consensus standards for industry to use 
which can form the foundation for any future rulemaking efforts. My 
observation is that while worthwhile, progress has been slow.
    While I believe there is value in the consensus development 
process, I also believe that without a ``forcing function'' progress 
will remain slow, and the moratorium will continue until a catastrophic 
event occurs. That ``forcing function'' should drive greater industry/
government participation and should include an increase in staffing for 
the appropriate regulatory agency to properly build the foundation for 
an expanded regulatory construct. Based largely on my experience with 
Part 450, my concern remains a very public catastrophic event may drive 
a rush to regulate, and potentially over-regulate, this still nascent 
part of the industry. With this in mind, rather than a moratorium, the 
Committee may wish to consider a ''forcing function'' that instead 
establishes a date in which the FAA may not publish a more robust 
regulation on commercial human spaceflight activities sooner than, 
i.e., in approximately five years (Phase 1). And then establish a 
subsequent date, a minimum of eighteen months later, before the updated 
regulation becomes effective (Phase 2). This approach allows time for 
an updated regulation to be fully and thoughtfully developed (Phase 1) 
and allows for the option of delaying the effective date (Phase 2) 
should Congress decide the regulation is ``early to need.'' This 
approach may mitigate the downsides of publishing a hurried regulatory 
update as Phase 1 would potentially be complete.
    Madam Chair, I appreciate your invitation to testify before the 
Committee. This is indeed the new renascence of space, so it is 
important that we work through these complex issues to ensure an 
appropriate level of safety and a ``light regulatory touch.'' It is 
also important that whatever the regulatory approach taken it enables 
our current industry leaders to be successful, and allows for the next 
disruptive innovator to successfully enter the market. This will foster 
competition and help ensure the United States continues its global 
leadership in this vital transportation sector.

    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Our next witness is Sirisha 
Bandla. Ms. Bandla is the President of Government Affairs and 
Research Operations for Virgin Galactic.
    She is also the only panelist here today to have gone to 
space, flying on Virgin Galactic's Unity 22 mission. You are 
recognized for your opening statement.

   STATEMENT OF SIRISHA BANDLA, VICE PRESIDENT OF GOVERNMENT 
             AFFAIRS AND RESEARCH, VIRGIN GALACTIC

    Ms. Bandla. Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, thank you 
so much for the opportunity to speak today on behalf of Virgin 
Galactic.
    The importance of this hearing is significant in furthering 
the progress of the commercial spaceflight industry, and we 
appreciate the scope and the attention of the Committee. Now, I 
have wanted to go to space since I was little.
    I wanted to adventure out into the unknown as the captain 
of my own starship and follow in the footsteps of those that 
explored the stars before me, you know, Neil Armstrong, Sally 
Ride, Kalpana Chawla, Jean-Luc Picard.
    But I have very bad eyesight and going to space in the way 
I had known it growing up through the NASA's astronaut corps 
was just not achievable until the advent of commercial human 
spaceflight, companies creating accessible and frequent access 
to space for anyone that wanted to experience it.
    I joined Virgin Galactic in 2015. Galactic is the world's 
first commercial space line, pioneering human spaceflight for 
private individuals and researchers with its advanced air and 
space vehicles.
    Galactic's vehicles have been designed to set new standards 
for human spaceflight safety, frequency, flexibility, and cost. 
Our company's mission is to democratize access to space to--by 
providing frequent private astronaut journeys, microgravity 
research, and space flight training opportunities.
    Now, spaceflight is an experience that changes your 
perception and your view of life on Earth. I was lucky enough 
to embark on that experience with Virgin Galactic when I flew 
with five of my crew members aboard our spaceship, VSS Unity, 
fulfilling a lifelong dream.
    And that is the hope, the mission, the vision of why we are 
all here to discuss current and future policies that could 
shape the growth of this industry, an industry that has the 
potential to open space access for researchers and scientists, 
that will further our understanding of our universe, our 
planet, and our place in it. An industry that has the potential 
to send more of our national and international astronaut corps 
to explore further destinations as humanity reaches further 
into the cosmos.
    And an industry that can open space up for all, artists, 
educators, lawyers, Members of Congress and their staff, for 
anyone who wants to embark on the journey. While the U.S. has 
over 60 years of history in spaceflight and an immense database 
of spaceflight technology that many in industry, including 
Virgin Galactic, utilize, the commercial human spaceflight 
industry is relatively new.
    Until recently, human spaceflight has primarily been in the 
domain of Governments, and access to space for humans was 
largely reserved for those in the national astronaut corps. To 
date, only 670 people have gone to space, and of those 670, 
only 64 were non-Government astronauts who flew on commercial 
vehicles, and many of them flew within the last 2 years. And 
the world is paying attention, though often with mistaken 
assumptions.
    So, while one of the important discussions today will 
center around the learning period and human occupant safety, it 
is important for us to remember through our discussions that 
this industry is indeed regulated.
    The FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation regulates 
commercial space operations to protect public safety and 
property, and currently has a perfect safety record. This 
includes rules that cover the licensing and landing--the launch 
and landing operations, as well as governing the establishment 
of spaceports.
    Intrinsically, regulating the vehicle for public safety 
does create a safer vehicle for the occupant. In addition, as 
the basis of our business, VG's highest priority is the safety 
of that of our crew and of our spaceflight participants.
    Now, Congress acknowledged that it is impossible for 
regulators to create effective regulations for diverse, 
innovative vehicles without sufficient data and created a 
regulatory learning period during which the FAA may only 
regulate for the safety of the public or in response to an 
incident.
    The rationale was that FAA regulatory burdens on a 
relatively new industry and rapidly evolving industry could 
slow innovation, particularly when it remains clear which areas 
FAA should regulate. And that is still true today. The learning 
period is currently scheduled to expire on January 1st, 2024.
    However, due to technical and economic challenges of space 
flight and the industry's emphasis on safety above all, 
commercial space companies have proceeded at a more cautious 
pace than envisioned in the original bill.
    And because of this, Galactic proposes extending the 
learning period to provide for a transition period utilizing 
collection of data and a standard development process to 
properly inform future safety frameworks and what areas the FAA 
should indeed regulate.
    The U.S. is leading the world in commercial human 
spaceflight, and the industry, while still in its infancy, is a 
beacon of innovation on and off this planet. I am looking 
forward to discussing those policies that will prioritize 
safety, while protecting the innovation that got us here today. 
Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Ms. Bandla follows:]

  Prepared Statement of Sirisha Bandla, Vice President of Government 
            Affairs and Research Operations, Virgin Galactic
    Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, distinguished members of the 
Committee, thank you for the opportunity to submit testimony on behalf 
of Virgin Galactic, the world's first commercial spaceline. The 
importance of this hearing is significant in furthering the progress of 
the commercial spaceflight industry, and we appreciate the scope and 
attention of the Committee.
About Virgin Galactic
    Founded in 2004, Virgin Galactic (VG) is the world's first 
commercial spaceline, pioneering human spaceflight for private 
individuals and researchers with its advanced air and space vehicles. 
Its vehicles are suborbital space labs for governments, researchers, 
and commercial industry to conduct research and test their innovations 
for the betterment of Earth and space exploration. VG's vehicles have 
been designed to set new standards for human spaceflight safety, 
frequency, flexibility, and cost. With a presence in California, New 
Mexico, and Arizona, our company's mission is to democratize access to 
space by providing frequent private astronaut journeys, microgravity 
research, and spaceflight training opportunities.
    VG owns and operates its suborbital spaceflight system and draws 
its flight heritage from the historic SpaceShipOne spacecraft, which 
was the first private space vehicle to safely carry human beings into 
space claiming the Ansari X PRIZE in 2004. VG's spaceflight system 
opens frequent access to space and provides a transformational 
spaceflight experience to our astronauts.
    VG's suborbital spaceflight system consists of two piloted 
vehicles, Mothership and Spaceship. Mothership is a four-engine, dual-
fuselage jet aircraft capable of high-altitude, heavy-lift missions, 
including but not limited to fulfilling its role in carrying Spaceship 
to altitude. VG's spaceship is an air-launched, suborbital spaceplane 
designed to transport people and payloads safely and routinely to space 
and back. Spaceship's cabin comfortably seats four to six passengers or 
an equivalent mass and volume of science and technology payloads. In 
conjunction, these two vehicles allow access to space and regions of 
the atmosphere ranging from the troposphere to the thermosphere.
    VG's current spaceship, VSS Unity, has flown nine private astronaut 
and research spaceflights. This includes the historic Unity 22 mission, 
which was the first fully crewed commercial spaceflight in the world, 
and Galactic 01, a dedicated research mission for the Italian Air Force 
(ItAF) and National Research Council of Italy, which flew three Italian 
government research specialists and over a dozen payloads to suborbital 
space. In addition, since beginning work with NASA's Flight 
Opportunities program, VG has flown a dozen research payloads for the 
agency.
    2023 has been an exciting time for our company and for commercial 
human spaceflight, as we have flown five successful missions in five 
months, with a mix of research-dedicated, international partner, and 
private astronaut missions. VG's three private astronaut spaceflights 
for private astronaut purposes in 2023 included a flight with the first 
mother-daughter duo that have gone to space, an astronaut with 
Parkinsons, the first Pakastani to go to space, and the first 
astronauts from Antigua and Barbuda.
    Our future will see VG expand our fleet of spaceships to increase 
access to space. In 2025, our new fleet of Delta class spaceships is 
expected to begin flight testing. Our new facility outside Phoenix, 
Arizona, will serve as the final assembly and checkout facility for the 
Delta fleet. The Delta class vehicle design is expected to increase 
performance and reduce time between flights. The introduction of these 
next-generation vehicles is an important milestone in Virgin Galactic's 
multi-year effort that targets flying 400 flights per year.
Commercial Human Spaceflight Activities
    While the U.S. has more than 60 years of history in spaceflight, 
and an immense database of lessons learned on spaceflight technology 
and vehicle operations that many in industry, including VG, utilize, 
the commercial human spaceflight industry is still relatively new. 
Until recently, human spaceflight has been primarily in the domain of 
governments and access to space for humans has largely been reserved 
for those in national astronaut corps. To date, only 670 people have 
gone to space, and of those 670, only 64 were non-government astronauts 
who flew on commercial vehicles--the majority of which only flew within 
the last two years.
    The emergence of commercial human spaceflight companies is changing 
the paradigm and aiming to democratize access to space for tourism and 
research purposes for private citizens, researchers, and government 
astronauts. The current human spaceflight industry is small and 
diverse--with vehicle systems ranging from spaceplanes to capsules. 
Companies are innovating not only through spaceflight technologies, but 
through manufacturing capabilities, ground operations, training 
programs, and more. The U.S. is leading the world in commercial human 
spaceflight and the industry, while still in its infancy, is a beacon 
of innovation on and off planet.
Current regulatory environment for human spaceflight is encouraging 
        innovation and growth without compromising safety
    The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of Commercial 
Space Transportation (AST) regulates commercial space operations to 
protect public safety and property, and currently has a prefect safety 
record. This includes rules that cover licensing of launch and landing 
operations, as well as governance over the establishment of spaceports. 
Virgin Galactic has worked closely with the FAA throughout its 
licensing process and continues to do so during commercial spaceflight 
operations. As the basis of our business, VG's highest priority is the 
safety of our crew and spaceflight participants (SFPs).
    Virgin Galactic operates a licensed human spaceflight system, with 
both mothership and spaceship always operating with two pilots onboard 
each vehicle. The spaceflight system is licensed under Title Part 400 
regulations carried out by AST. VG's spaceflight system was first 
granted an Operator's license in 2016, which was later expanded in 2021 
to allow the company to fly Spaceflight Participants (SFPs). This 
license--which is maintained throughout our operations for continued 
accuracy--is a clear and ongoing validation of our spaceflight system, 
which must meet the verification and validation criteria required by 
the FAA.
    Virgin Galactic's mothership and spaceship also operate under Title 
49 Part 91 airworthiness certificates administered by the FAA Flight 
Standards District Office, which include annual reviews and inspections 
of the vehicles, their operating limitations, and the FAA approved 
maintenance inspection program.
    Congress acknowledged the emergence of the commercial human 
spaceflight industry, recognizing that it is in the dynamic, iterative, 
and development cycle, and is not yet ready for the full-scale 
regulation that characterizes today's commercial air travel. 
Understanding that it is impossible for regulators to create effective 
and efficient regulations for diverse, innovative vehicles without 
sufficient data, Congress created a regulatory learning period during 
which the FAA may regulate for the safety of the public, or in response 
to an incident. The rationale was that ``FAA regulatory burdens on the 
relatively new and rapidly evolving commercial space launch industry 
could slow innovation, particularly when it remains unclear which areas 
the FAA should regulate.''
    The Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act of 2004 established this 
regulatory learning period to enable human spaceflight operations to 
mature prior to FAA issuance of occupant safety regulations and to 
ensure that the agency had adequate time to develop the expertise and 
resources required for such regulations. Spaceflight participants 
operate under an informed consent and indemnification regimen that 
acknowledges the inherent risk and complexity of spaceflight, 
consistent with many other activities in the United States. The intent 
of the learning period is to allow the industry and the FAA to collect 
data that will allow for safe and effective human spaceflight 
regulations in the future. It is important to note that the current 
regulations that cover operations and public safety also provide 
indirectly for occupant safety. During this period, the FAA is still 
able to issue regulations governing the design or operation of a 
vehicle to protect the health and safety of crew, government 
astronauts, and spaceflight participants (under certain conditions).
Commercial human spaceflight readiness indicators for regulation 
        indicate that the industry is not yet mature enough to drive a 
        data-based regulatory framework
    In Title 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50905(c)(6), Congress directed the FAA to 
submit a report specifying key industry metrics that might indicate a 
proper level of maturity for the commercial space industry to be fit 
for regulation. Section 50905(c)(7) of that same legislation also 
directed the FAA to submit another report every two years on ``the 
commercial space activities most appropriate for regulatory action, if 
any, and a proposed transition plan for such regulations.''
    On October 20, 2017, the FAA submitted its first report to Congress 
initially identifying the key metrics that may indicate the commercial 
space sector's readiness for regulations. The FAA divided the 
indicators into three sets. In each of these three sets, it is clear 
the emerging commercial spaceflight industry is not yet mature enough 
for human occupant safety regulations.

  1.  The first set of indicators looks to the industry's readiness to 
        enter a safety framework by focusing on the purpose for which 
        people are flying, the size and complexity of the industry, and 
        its safety.
      The size and complexity of the industry is still maturing. For 
        suborbital flights, the global industry only has one horizontal 
        launch company, Virgin Galactic, and one vertical launch 
        company, Blue Origin. So far, Virgin Galactic has nine human 
        suborbital flights to space, while Blue Origin has conducted 
        six. SpaceX is the U.S.'s only orbital commercial human 
        spaceflight system and was primarily developed under contract 
        to NASA to carry government astronauts to the International 
        Space Station. Orbital spaceflight subjects human occupants to 
        a much different spacecraft environment when compared to 
        suborbital spaceflight. The industry is still small and diverse 
        in its systems--and while commercial spaceflight has been 
        around for many years, commercial human spaceflight is still 
        very much nascent, with frequent flights only occurring in the 
        last two years. Defining regulations that span diverse systems 
        without first building a knowledge database has the potential 
        to do more harm than good.

  2.  The second set are indicators of the industry's progress in 
        developing a safety framework and focuses on voluntary safety 
        reporting, voluntary consensus standards, and compliance.
      While the spaceflight industry, with active participation from 
        the FAA and NASA,is making strong progress in developing 
        consensus, performance-based safety standards that document 
        industry and government-derived best practices for the benefit 
        of the commercial space industry, there is more work to do. As 
        industry grows and continues to collect data on human 
        spaceflight operations, an organization and a process exists to 
        continue the development of safety standards. ASTM 
        International is a leading standards development organization 
        with over 120 years of experience, and ASTM's F47 Committee on 
        Commercial Spaceflight is comprised of a variety of experts 
        from government, industry, and academia. Subcommittees within 
        the committee are working on multiple standards related to 
        human spaceflight. However, with many companies have only 
        recently begun frequent commercial operations, additional time 
        is needed to continue to collect and analyze data for the 
        purpose of developing a safety framework through industry 
        consensus standards.

  3.  The final set of indicators relate to the FAA's readiness to 
        enter into a safety framework and focuses on the FAA's 
        authority and expertise.
      FAA AST is tasked with licensing and permitting commercial space 
        launch and reentry. In recent years, commercial space industry 
        growth has stretched AST's licensing resources, and recent 
        budget requests have included increased amounts to reflect this 
        need. As launch demand increases, AST needs the resources, 
        funding, and personnel to carry out the necessary workload for 
        its primary authority. Until FAA is resourced and able to 
        perform its principal duty effectively and in a timely manner, 
        adding additional scope and workload has the potential to delay 
        commercial spaceflight operations, risking the rapid growth the 
        industry is undergoing.

    Looking at the indicators FAA AST identified themselves, industry 
is not yet mature enough for effective and efficient human occupant 
safety regulations--but VG believes that it is the right time for 
government and industry discussions on future safety frameworks. VG, 
itself, has a robust framework for human occupant safety within our 
spaceflight system, built on industry and government best practices and 
the experience of our team. We look forward to participating and 
continuing to share best practices in the proper cross-cutting forum.
Extension of the Learning Period will allow industry time to develop a 
        standards-based safety framework and create a transition period 
        to a permanent future framework
    This learning period is currently scheduled to expire on January 1, 
2024, however, due to the technical and economic challenges of 
spaceflight and the industry's emphasis on safety above all, commercial 
space companies have proceeded at a more cautious pace than envisioned 
in the original bill. As a result, there are only three companies 
currently carrying humans to space, and it would be premature to base 
occupant safety regulations on this extremely small set of data at this 
time.
    VG proposes extending the learning period to provide for a 
transition period utilizing the collection of data and for the 
standards development process to properly inform future safety 
frameworks. This transition period should incorporate the development 
of an initial set of industry consensus standards that covers 
appropriate aspects of spaceflight participant safety, an evaluation of 
the practical applications of these standards, and an evaluation of FAA 
AST's readiness to transition to a safety framework, including their 
execution of existing statutory requirements like launch and reentry 
licensing.
    The transition period process would create a deadline for 
developing an initial set of industry consensus standards that covers 
appropriate aspects of spaceflight participant safety. The road mapping 
for an initial set of human occupant safety standards should be done 
through a standards development organization, such as those currently 
being developed by standards development organizations, primarily ASTM, 
and/or industry/government advisory group and would include FAA AST 
participation in the development and balloting process.
    After the initial safety framework is completed through voluntary 
safety standards, operators will have a period of time to utilize and 
evaluate their effectiveness. Throughout the development and monitoring 
periods of this standards-based approach, FAA AST would engage with 
operators to collect feedback on the practical application of these 
standards to prepare for follow-on regulatory efforts. This will help 
the agency develop expertise and a roadmap. At the conclusion of the 
transition period, the learning period would be allowed to expire.
Increased funding for FAA AST is needed for AST to keep up with the 
        growth of the commercial spaceflight industry and effectively 
        transition to future regulatory reforms
    Congress should reaffirm its commitment to safeguarding America's 
leadership in commercial space launch and authorize the funding of the 
Office of Commercial Space Transportation at the level necessary to 
successfully fulfill its mission in an efficient and timely manner. 
Additionally, Congress should authorize research, engineering, and 
development funding for AST to develop a suite of tools to automate 
parts of the licensing process and help license evaluators handle the 
growing workload. Due to lack of additional resources, current 
resources are rightfully focused on licensing upcoming launch and re-
entries--and should continue to do so. AST should first be adequately 
resourced to effectively and efficiently fulfill its current authority 
before looking to address future reforms.
Industry & government dialogue is important for the continued success 
        of the commercial spaceflight industry
    In the Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act of 2015 (CSLCA), 
Congress directed the FAA to ``continue to work with the commercial 
space sector, including the Commercial Space Transportation Advisory 
Committee (COMSTAC) . . . to facilitate the development of voluntary 
consensus standards based on recommended best practices to improve the 
safety of crew, government astronauts, and space flight participants as 
the commercial space sector continues to mature.'' \1\ Congress further 
clarified that ``nothing'' in Title 51 Sec. 50905 ``shall be construed 
to limit the authority of the Secretary to discuss potential regulatory 
approaches, potential performance standards, or any other topic related 
to this subsection with the commercial space industry.'' \2\
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    \1\ Commercial Space Launch Competitiveness Act of 2015, Pub. L. 
114-90, Sec. 111; 51 U.S.C. Sec. 50905(c)(5) as amended [hereinafter 
CSLCA].
    \2\ Id. Sec. 50905(c)(4).
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    For many years, both FAA AST and COMSTAC have recognized the 
important role that the development of voluntary consensus standards 
can play to not only ``improve the safety of the commercial human 
spaceflight industry as a whole,'' \3\ but to also ``help provide a 
baseline for compliance with potential future regulations covering 
human spaceflight'' \4\ once the industry has reached sufficient 
operational cadence and technological maturity.
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    \3\ Kelvin B. Coleman, Jennifer Bailey, Tara Halt, Rachita Puri, 
John Sloan, Regulatory Preparation for U.S. Commercial Human 
Spaceflight, 73rd International Astronautical Congress, Sept. 18-22, 
2022, available at https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/
Regulatory_Prepara
tion_Commercial_HSF%20_FAA%20_Coleman_IAC_Paris_B3_2%20_Sept_2022.pdf.
    \4\ FAA, COMSTAC Recommendations for Human Spaceflight (HSF) 
Regulation, at 2, Nov. 2021, available at https://www.faa.gov/space/
additional_information/comstac/media/HSF_
Recommendation_Summary_Final.pdf.
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    VG has worked with FAA AST since the company's inception to secure 
and maintain the licensing of its spaceflight system. In addition, VG 
has participated in multiple advisory councils for AST to continue 
industry-government partnership in identifying and advancing policies 
and regulations that keep up with the ever-evolving industry. This 
includes participating in multiple Aerospace Rule-Making Committees 
(SpARCs) and advisory committees, such as COMSTAC.
    In addition, FAA AST must continue to participate in industry 
dialogue and standards organizations. Nothing must be construed in 
future policies to restrict AST's ability to engage in discussion on 
human spaceflight occupant safety while the learning period is still in 
effect.
Conclusion
    This is an exciting time for not only Virgin Galactic, but for the 
entire industry as it continues to achieve milestones in human 
spaceflight. The Committee's tireless work and progress on national and 
civil space policy is imperative and much appreciated by the public, 
the commercial spaceflight industry, and stakeholders. Thank you for 
holding this important hearing and Virgin Galactic looks forward to 
working with the Committee.

    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Our next witness is William 
Gerstenmaier. Chair Sinema has Gerst in quotes. Is that 
appropriate? This is not my copy, but I am going to go ahead 
with Gerst. Take a leap of faith here. And is the Vice 
President of Build and Flight Reliability at SpaceX.
    He previously spent over 40 years in public service, 
including overseeing human spaceflight efforts at NASA. Mr. 
Gerstenmaier, you are recognized for your opening statement.

             STATEMENT OF WILLIAM H. GERSTENMAIER,

          VICE PRESIDENT, BUILD & FLIGHT RELIABILITY,

         SPACE EXPLORATION TECHNOLOGIES CORP. (SPACEX)

    Mr. Gerstenmaier. Madam Chair and Mr. Ranking Member, thank 
you for the opportunity to testify today. This is a critically 
important hearing. We are at an inflection point with 
incredible innovation in commercial space launch.
    The criticality is especially true in the face of strategic 
competition from state actors like China. SpaceX is under 
contract with NASA to use Starship to land American astronauts 
on the moon before China does.
    We are undertaking a campaign that requires many early test 
flights to rapidly mature and prove out the critical systems 
needed to safely land NASA astronauts on the lunar surface. We 
understand the vital importance of this national mission and 
the absolute need to protect the public during every phase of 
development.
    Starship has been ready for its next flight test for more 
than a month, but we are waiting for an FAA license and 
accompanying interagency review. The Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation, known as AST, must recognize where the industry 
is, where the industry is going, and its role in regulating 
this emerging industry.
    Promote, encourage, enable, and protect public safety, this 
was Congress's direction to the Commercial Space Act when it 
was written. To do this, the pace of American regulation must 
match the pace of American innovation.
    We are falling behind. I am privileged to lead a team of 
outstanding safety and reliability engineers at SpaceX. I also 
serve in the control room as SpaceX's Chief Engineer for three 
private Dragon flights with spaceflight participants.
    Safety and reliability are everyone's responsibility at 
SpaceX and enables our current flight rate at about one launch 
every 4 days. Safety and reliability enable flight rate and do 
not inhibit. Regulations likewise can also be an enabler.
    As it relates to the topic of this hearing, I want to be 
clear that Congress should pass a multiyear extension for the 
human spaceflight learning period. Human spaceflight represents 
a tiny fraction of all space launches and is properly regulated 
today under a responsible and balanced framework given the 
nascent state of the industry.
    Much work is being done to think through what the future 
regulation may look like. We must get this right and it will 
take time. It would be premature by several years to let the 
learning period lapse, so I call on Congress to extend it.
    With that said, I want to focus my testimony on AST's 
regulatory framework for launch and reentry licensing, which is 
in great distress. I want to state clearly that AST is an 
outstanding and important organization that needs more 
resources and immediate regulatory direction from Congress.
    AST's role is critical to enabling safe space 
transportation, but we are at a breaking point. AST has neither 
the resources nor the flexibility to implement its regulatory 
obligations. Licensing, including environmental approval, often 
takes longer than rocket development. This should never happen, 
and it is only getting worse.
    Our Starship, Falcon, and Dragon programs are 
encountering--are encountering regulatory headwinds and 
unnecessary bureaucracy that has nothing to do with public 
safety. Regulation is important, but so are the technical 
challenges associated with developing and operating 
transformative vehicle systems like Starship.
    In my written statement, I offer several specific proposals 
for the Committee's consideration. As a summary, first, the AST 
Licensing Division needs at least twice the resources that they 
have today. We also recommend expedited hiring authority for 
AST to onboard additional qualified technical experts with an 
innovative mindset or to bring in outside help.
    Second, AST's role is to promote--protect public safety, 
not to ensure success of rocket launches. Congress has been 
very clear about this. Space is not aviation. In space launch, 
as long as failure occurs safely, safe failure and rapid 
learning are often the fastest path to successful development.
    Third, AST's Part 450 regulations need to change. When it 
comes to projects of national interest such as the Artemis 
program, Congress should establish a regulatory regime 
consistent with the national program objectives and schedules.
    Other Government agencies that participate in AST 
licensing, like those with environmental responsibilities, 
should also be required to complete their work consistent with 
the national program schedules. I thank the Committee for 
convening this important hearing, and I look forward to your 
questions. Thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Gerstenmaier follows:]

Prepared Statement of William H. Gerstenmaier, Vice President, Build & 
   Flight Reliability, Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX)
    Chair Cantwell, Ranking Member Cruz, Chair Sinema, Ranking Member 
Schmitt, and Members of the Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity 
to testify about modernizing and improving America's commercial 
spaceflight regulatory framework. The Committee's efforts and this 
timely hearing are critical particularly now as they relate to the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation's (AST) current approach to managing launch and reentry 
activities. This is a pivotal time for the commercial spaceflight 
industry and for American leadership. Your efforts in overseeing human 
spaceflight regulations and the transition to the new launch and 
reentry regulatory environment are critical. National policy for 
spaceflight must correctly recognize where the industry is, where it's 
going, and the role of regulators in this emerging and rapidly 
developing industry. Most of all, the pace of regulation must match the 
pace of American innovation.
    As the world's leading space transportation and services provider, 
SpaceX maintains safe operations and public safety as our top priority. 
We share the Committee's commitment to ensuring the United States 
remains the world's leader in space. Unfortunately, under AST's present 
regulatory framework, serious problems are quickly mounting that will 
undermine American innovation while doing nothing to enhance public 
safety. Further, development of human spaceflight regulations also 
requires careful thought. Continuing the current learning period while 
smartly preparing for the eventual future of more expanded commercial 
human spaceflight activity is critical. At the same time, we must 
acknowledge the shortcomings of the present system and the volume of 
work coming, while reforming the regulatory process to move more 
efficiently. We urge the Committee to move quickly to address these 
challenges and facilitate an improved licensing framework and provide 
additional resources for AST.
I. Introduction
    As Vice President for Build and Flight Reliability at SpaceX, my 
job is to ensure that SpaceX conducts its operations across the Falcon, 
Dragon, Starship, and Starlink programs safely and reliably for all of 
our U.S. Government and commercial customers. Prior to joining SpaceX 
in 2020, I served as the Associate Administrator of NASA's Human 
Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate (HEOMD), where I oversaw 
all of NASA's human spaceflight efforts, including the International 
Space Station (ISS), the Space Shuttle Program, Commercial Crew and 
Cargo, and many others, with a career in public service spanning over 
40 years.
    Today, I am privileged to lead the outstanding safety and 
reliability engineers who enable SpaceX to successfully launch our 
Falcon rockets every four days on average; to operate Dragon, the only 
operational orbital U.S. human spaceflight system, multiple times per 
year--enabling continued U.S. and International Partner presence in 
orbit without having to rely on Russia; and to help lead the next-
generation of space launch technology development with Starship to land 
the next American astronauts on the Moon in the coming years. At 
SpaceX, safety and reliability is not just the responsibility of one 
organization; each employee carries a responsibility for safe and 
reliable operations. My organization's primary responsibility is to 
provide tools and a framework that the company's employees can use for 
safe and reliable spaceflight operations. Safety is at the core of 
SpaceX's ethos, and no company could successfully execute at our 
cadence and reliability without a fundamentally robust safety and 
mission assurance culture. Reliable system development and operations 
enable our current flight rate and diverse portfolio of activities.
    We bring this culture and expertise to bear in our partnerships 
across the Government, including with AST. As a general matter, AST 
should be recognized for its hardworking, dedicated, and professional 
staff that work diligently to protect public safety during space 
launches and reentries. AST has an outstanding record of success in its 
core mission to protect the uninvolved public, and for this it should 
be commended. Its role in commercial space launch and reentry is 
critical to the success of the industry. If the U.S. is to continue to 
lead the world in space innovation; outmatch aggressive, state-backed 
Chinese competition; and enable new revolutionary technologies like 
Starship, the regulatory framework and AST will need to fundamentally 
change. The current system cannot match the pace of technological 
leadership required by the private sector to keep the U.S. a leader in 
space exploration and national security. Innovation has returned launch 
capability to the U.S. and has provided new technologies that benefit 
national security. Starship has the potential to revolutionize launch, 
but regulations must be amended to allow for Starship to be successful. 
The technical challenges for Starship are significant, and the 
regulatory environment needs to enable technical innovation and not add 
undue burden to development that does not contribute to public safety. 
To be clear, SpaceX has an outstanding relationship with AST and highly 
respects the work it does for the industry and the country. However, 
much improvement is needed if the U.S. is to remain a leader.
    Indeed, AST is the ``gate'' through which all U.S. commercial space 
launches and reentries must pass to achieve operational success. The 
line at this gate has become unsustainably long, and AST is now facing 
the very real prospect that it is slowing rather than enabling U.S. 
progress in spaceflight capability. As such, it is imperative that 
Congress take quick action to address very specific challenges 
inhibiting AST's ability to more efficiently perform its core function. 
It should be quickly provided with the necessary resources to do its 
job more efficiently and in keeping with industry progress. And AST 
itself must embrace responsible improvements to its processes in order 
to meet its growing mandate. Otherwise, the United States faces 
regulatory paralysis that will stifle the abundant innovation and 
capability that the private sector is bringing to market. This 
paralysis will harm programs of national significance like Artemis and 
threaten the current U.S. leadership in launch and reentry 
capabilities.
II. SpaceX in 2023
    SpaceX was founded in 2002 to expand space access and to improve 
the reliability and affordability of space transportation. Today, 
SpaceX is the world's most active launch services provider, having 
successfully launched spacecraft to orbit and beyond 270 times, 
including 73 launches in 2023 to-date. SpaceX has also conducted 41 
orbital reentries with our Dragon spacecraft and 235 successful first 
stage landings. At present, we launch a rocket roughly every four days 
from U.S. soil. This is an unprecedented pace in the history of 
rocketry. The recent Falcon Heavy launch of NASA's Psyche mission to a 
metallic asteroid with both boosters returning to safely land at Cape 
Canaveral continues to inspire. Reusability is a key enabler for 
SpaceX. Starship's fully reusable first and second stages will be a 
significant advancement in reusability. Starship needs both reusability 
and reliability to be successful. In order to gain reliability, a rapid 
flight pace is needed.
    SpaceX is proud to serve the Nation's space enterprise with 
satellite launches for NASA, DOD, the IC, and other Federal agencies, 
and is certified to conduct 100 percent of U.S. Government mission 
requirements under the NASA Launch Services Program (LSP) and the 
National Security Space Launch (NSSL) Program. In close partnership 
with NASA, SpaceX developed the Dragon spacecraft to support crew and 
cargo transportation to and from the ISS. Since 2012, we have performed 
28 un-crewed cargo resupply flights to and from ISS. In 2020, SpaceX 
restored America's human spaceflight access after nearly a decade of 
national reliance on Russia. We have successfully conducted seven 
crewed missions for NASA to and from ISS since then, with another six-
month mission underway today and more planned in the years to come.
    All of SpaceX's innovation occurs in the United States, creating 
tens of thousands of direct and indirect jobs, advancing technology, 
and generating substantial economic activity. SpaceX invests billions 
of dollars across the country in development, test, operations, and 
supplier purchasing from crucial (and largely small business) vendors 
across America. We maintain manufacturing and engineering facilities in 
Hawthorne, CA; Starlink satellite system design and manufacturing 
facilities in Redmond, WA; a rocket development and test facility in 
McGregor, TX; and launch pads and rocket processing facilities within 
Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, NASA Kennedy Space Center, and 
Vandenberg Space Force Base; and production, test, and launch 
facilities at Starbase in South Texas. SpaceX maintains a network of 
more than 7,000 American suppliers--supporting 150,000 small business 
jobs--and vendors in all 50 states.
    To advance the next generation of space transportation technology, 
SpaceX is developing Starship, the largest, most powerful space vehicle 
system in history. With its unique, revolutionary design, Starship will 
be fully and rapidly reusable, capable of delivering astronauts and 
more than 100 tons of usable cargo to orbit, the Moon, and Mars. This 
capability is an order of magnitude more than any other launch system 
previously developed. The Starship program is ambitious, by design. To 
prove out the system, SpaceX has conducted 12 low-and high-altitude 
test flights since 2019 from our Starbase development, production, and 
launch site near Brownsville, Texas, including the first fully 
integrated flight in April 2023. We are prepared to conduct Starship's 
second integrated test flight as soon as the end of this month, pending 
only FAA license approval, which includes the reviews of supporting 
agencies. Critically, the vehicle has been ready to fly since mid-
September. The current regulatory process is not keeping up with the 
pace of innovation.
    In 2021, NASA competitively awarded SpaceX the Human Landing System 
(HLS) contract to help return American astronauts to the Moon as part 
of the Artemis Program, and subsequently awarded a follow-on crewed 
lunar mission in 2022.\1\ SpaceX is diligently working to maintain 
schedule for NASA in the face of global competition with China. NASA 
Administrator Bill Nelson has urged expediency, noting: ``[i]t is a 
fact: we're in a space race [with China].'' \2\ Though these launches 
are for NASA, the FAA is responsible for licensing all test and 
operational launches. SpaceX is also under contract with the U.S. Air 
Force to use Starship to support the Vanguard Rocket Cargo Program.\3\ 
Starship represents an area where the U.S. Government does not appear 
to be aligned across agencies with its own objectives. While NASA and 
DOD are rightly focused on development schedule and national need, 
SpaceX faces continual and increasing test and operational headwinds as 
it relates to AST and other Federal agencies. Various regulatory 
agencies must be aligned on mission to truly enable critical and timely 
advancements in space technology that are required for the U.S. 
Government to be successful in reaching its own objectives.
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    \1\ ``NASA Awards SpaceX Second Contract Option for Artemis Moon 
Landing,'' NASA.gov, November 15, 2022, accessed at https://
www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/nasa-awards-spacex-second-contract-option-
for-artemis-moon-landing/
    \2\ ``We better watch out: NASA boss sounds alarm on Chinese moon 
ambitions,'' POLITICO, January 1, 2023, accessed at https://
www.politico.com/news/ 2023/01/01/we-better-watch-out
-nasa-boss-sounds-alarm-on-chinese-moon-ambitions-
00075803#::text=So%20says%20NASA%20
Administrator%20Bill,astronaut%20said%20in%20an%20interview.
    \3\ ``Rocket Cargo--FA8650-22-9-9301,'' SAM.gov, January 14, 2022, 
accessed at https://sam.gov/opp/1bd5d826c1e74a4abee083dde1652348/view
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    Starship is further critical to the deployment of next-generation 
Starlink and Starshield capability, which are crucial to expanding 
broadband access and to U.S national security and foreign policy 
objectives abroad. Starlink and Starshield build on the company's 
experience in launch vehicle and spacecraft design, development, 
production, and on-orbit operations. Operating in low Earth orbit 
(LEO), Starlink provides high-speed, low latency broadband to 
commercial users in all 50 states and around the world, and today 
serves over two million households and businesses. By focusing service 
on households that previously lacked access to reliable broadband 
service, Starlink is helping to rapidly address the digital divide. And 
with Starshield, SpaceX is applying Starlink technology and launch 
capability to support vital national security efforts for the DOD.
    By operating in LEO, systems like Starlink provide much faster 
speeds and lower latency than traditional satellite communications 
systems operating in higher orbits, and can support far more users. 
However, this closer altitude necessitates deploying thousands of 
satellites over hundreds of launches to provide consistent global 
coverage, which requires a regulatory regime capable of consistently 
and efficiently licensing launches at unprecedented scale. Other 
countries are moving forward with significant investment in LEO space 
systems, and are clearing regulatory obstacles to allow for their 
state-backed networks to rapidly launch and deploy. For example, China 
is aggressively pursuing a satellite constellation with plans to launch 
approximately 13,000 satellites in the coming years.\4\ The European 
Union is also pursuing its own Secure Connectivity LEO system, as are 
Russia and India. Launch licensing regulatory challenges are not ``top 
of mind'' for these countries as they race to compete with U.S. 
commercial technology--regulatory challenges only appear to be an 
obstacle for launch companies in the U.S. To be clear, the United 
States does not need to set aside its regulatory obligations or its 
commitment to public safety; a smart, appropriately resourced system 
can both meet these needs and facilitate innovation.
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    \4\ ``China is developing plans for a 13,000-satellite 
megaconstellation,'' SpaceNews, April 21, 2021, accessed at https://
spacenews.com/china-is-developing-plans-for-a-13000-satellite-commu
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    In order to successfully execute on its commitments, SpaceX plans 
to conduct at least two more Starship flights this year, with a higher 
flight rate in 2024 and beyond, plus an estimated 30 more Falcon 
flights for various customers, including the U.S. Government, before 
the end of the year. This test and flight cadence across multiple 
vehicle families for SpaceX alone is almost certainly not possible if 
Congress does not provide AST with additional resources, direction, and 
legislative guidance. Unnecessary overhead will delay the technology 
advances needed to keep the U.S. as a leader in space. The public needs 
to be protected, but the private sector needs to be enabled to explore, 
learn, and develop new technologies at a rapid pace. As the human 
spaceflight industry emerges, care must be taken to not overburden 
development with new regulations. The U.S. public needs to protected 
both by regulation and innovation. If the U.S. loses it technological 
advantage to other countries, the public is also at risk. The nation 
that leads in technology sets the standards for all others to follow. 
We cannot risk loss of technical leadership because of an antiquated 
regulatory environment. An innovative and agile approach to regulations 
is as important as technological advancement.
III. AST Modernization and Change
    The Committee is taking on important work across the full range of 
space policy issues from establishing a balanced, responsible mission 
authorization process to maintaining a sustainable orbital environment. 
SpaceX strongly supports all of this work and looks forward to working 
with the Committee as it formulates policy. As noted, however, the 
Committee must first place its focus on AST and launch and reentry 
licensing reforms, which is the sine qua non for every other regulated 
activity related to U.S. space activities.
    While nearly the entire rest of the world relies on state-owned or 
state-sponsored entities, the United States derives nearly all of its 
competitiveness in space from the domestic commercial sector. Indeed, 
U.S. Government launch capability for NASA, DOD, and the IC is almost 
exclusively provided by commercial launch providers as a service. The 
Commercial Space Launch Act of 1984 established the Nation's launch and 
reentry regulatory framework, which appropriately prioritized 
protecting public safety while maximizing innovation:

        ``the United States should encourage private sector launches 
        and associated services and, only to the extent necessary, 
        regulate such launches and services in order to ensure 
        compliance with international obligations of the United States 
        and to protect the public health and safety, safety of 
        property, and national security interests and foreign policy 
        interests of the United States.'' \5\
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    \5\ Emphasis added. ``H.R. 3942--98th Congress (1983-1984): 
Commercial Space Launch Act,'' Congress.gov, October 30, 1984, accessed 
at https://www.congress.gov/bill/98th-congress/house-bill/3942

    Congress has consistently recognized over several decades that 
``there is an inherent risk in spaceflight.'' \6\ Accordingly, it has 
directed that the regulatory regime for commercial space launch and 
reentry focus on protecting public safety, rather than attempting to 
perform mission assurance or otherwise ensure the success of a space 
launch or reentry. To be clear, it is expressly not the purpose of AST 
to prevent launches or reentry from failing. Commercial space 
regulations are not akin to aviation regulations and have been 
developed purposefully to limit AST's role in this respect. The fact 
that commercial space is regulated by FAA versus any other Federal 
agency is incidental, but the comingling of AST within FAA's broader 
priorities of regulating commercial aviation--where FAA must regulate 
to ensure the success of airline flights--creates undue confusion 
regarding AST's role.
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    \6\ ``H.R. 5382--108th Congress (2003-2004): Commercial Space 
Launch Amendments Act of 2004,'' Congress.gov, December 23, 2004, 
accessed at https://www.congress.gov/bill/108th-congress/house-bill/
5382; ``H.R. 2262--114th Congress (2015-2016) Spurring Private 
Aerospace Competitiveness and Entrepreneurship Act of 2015: Report,'' 
Govinfo.gov, May 18, 2015, accessed at https://www.govinfo.gov/content/
pkg/CRPT-114hrpt119/pdf/CRPT-114hrpt119.pdf
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    While AST has achieved admirable success ensuring public safety, it 
is reaching a breaking point as it relates to timely license issuance, 
even for ``routine'' missions on mature launch vehicle systems like the 
Falcon 9. With respect to innovative systems in development, including 
those that are critical to key national objectives like NASA's Artemis 
program, AST licensing is now the critical path watch item that is at 
risk of slowing the pace of innovation and program execution. For 
example, the Starship Flight 2 launch vehicle has been ready to fly 
since mid-September in order to test critical systems needed to meet 
NASA objectives, and is simply awaiting AST licensing approval. This is 
the consequence of several concurrent challenges, including:

  (1)  AST's transition to ``streamlined,'' performance-based 
        regulations under Part 450 has resulted in delayed agency 
        guidance, confusion, and uncertainty both for the regulated 
        entity and the regulator. In September 2020, AST updated its 
        regulations in an attempt to reform the licensing process and 
        keep pace with the growth of the launch industry. While well-
        intentioned, the Part 450 effort has not succeeded in 
        accomplishing a streamlined process. AST's ability to process 
        licenses in a timely fashion has declined rather than 
        improved--indeed, as evidenced by licensing for the handful of 
        applicants under Part 450, approval timelines are not 
        improving. For example, the Starship license for Flight 1 took 
        nearly three years. These delays are contrary to the intent of 
        Part 450 itself, and this situation is untenable.

      AST's delay in issuing clear guidance results largely from 
        resource constraints--its overburdened staff have rightly 
        focused on the growing pile of license applications, and have 
        little time to think cohesively about implementation and policy 
        development with respect to Part 450. The Commercial Space 
        Transportation Advisory Committee (COMSTAC) issued consensus 
        recommendations to AST on this issue, and Congress should 
        encourage AST to move forward on those recommendations.

  (2)  AST as a whole--and particularly its Licensing Division--is 
        substantially under-resourced. With its limited staff, the AST 
        Licensing Division is often constrained as to how it allocates 
        its resources and must pull qualified analysts from one 
        application or internal program to focus on another--resulting 
        in delays for both. Currently, AST is only able to review 
        license material sequentially (rather than in parallel). A 
        license applicant is forced to ``pick and choose'' which of its 
        programs should be prioritized in order to help manage AST's 
        workload. This places both AST and its licensees in an 
        impossible position, particularly for licensees who work 
        multiple programs important to the Government--what should be 
        prioritized? Vehicle operators should not be in a position of 
        deferring license work or disrupting business operations in 
        order to alleviate AST workload.

  (3)  AST's regulatory approach is often non-agile and inflexible, 
        contrary to national policy which requires both. Indeed, the 
        National Space Policy mandates that agencies must ``[c]reate 
        transparent regulatory processes that minimize, consistent with 
        national security and public safety, the regulatory burden and 
        uncertainty for commercial space activities and that are 
        flexible. . .'' \7\ AST must do more to enable flexibility in 
        its regulations, particularly for mature launch and reentry 
        systems and launch sites. In many cases, both have been 
        otherwise approved by NASA or the United States Space Force 
        (USSF), but AST's interpretation of its regulatory compliance 
        obligations forces duplicative and unnecessary paperwork that 
        does not contribute to public safety and is not in the national 
        interest.
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    \7\ ``National Space Policy of the United States of America,'' 
Office of Space Commerce, December 9, 2020, accessed at https://
www.space.commerce.gov/policy/national-space-policy/

    The above reflect status quo challenges. But, as AST transitions 
licenses for vehicles previously approved under legacy regulations to 
Part 450 over the next two years, the entire regulatory system is at 
risk of collapse. AST is struggling to fulfill its responsibilities 
today and simply does not have the bandwidth to process the significant 
additional paperwork of this transition without materially reducing its 
responsiveness to applicants. This is not a hypothetical--AST's 
workload over the next 12-24 months could result in the grounding of 
U.S. space launch capability if action is not taken immediately.
    SpaceX recommends Congress take steps immediately to modernize the 
current launch and reentry licensing regime and provide additional 
resources and tools to aid AST in its mission.
IV. Rapid Technology Development
    America's greatest strength against well-organized, state-sponsored 
foreign competition that has no respect for intellectual property is 
its entrepreneurial system that enables and encourages rapid, 
continuous private sector innovation. Here, SpaceX takes a spiral 
development approach across all of our programs, which prioritizes 
rapid design, early test article build, and frequent real-world flight 
testing early in the development process. SpaceX uses this approach 
across all of our complex space system development programs, including 
Falcon 9, Dragon, Falcon Heavy, Merlin and Raptor engine development, 
and Starlink. And it has yielded unprecedented successes. In every 
case, this approach proved to be less expensive, faster, and more 
successful than any comparable aerospace development approach, in most 
cases by orders of magnitude.
    Testing development hardware in a flight environment enables our 
teams to quickly learn and execute design changes and hardware upgrades 
necessary to improve the probability of success in the future. At all 
phases of development and operation, SpaceX takes every precaution to 
ensure public safety, but we will take programmatic risk during testing 
to advance technology--just as the United States did through much of 
the Space Race. Public risk and programmatic risk are not the same and 
are not in conflict--we (and our customers) are responsible for 
programmatic risk. AST is responsible for ensuring that our efforts to 
protect public safety are verified and appropriate. Both are achieved 
with success simultaneously.
    SpaceX works closely with federal, state, and local agencies, 
including AST, to protect public safety and the safety of the SpaceX 
workforce. This philosophy has proven highly successful. Our Falcon 
family of launch vehicles are now the most flown in the United States 
by far and the most reliable space vehicles in history.\8\ Globally, 
Falcon is the only vehicle system able to keep pace with a similar high 
cadence of launch in China. And, from a mass-to-orbit perspective, 
which is the most important metric when evaluating capability, Falcon 
alone outperforms China three to one. Without this speed of innovation, 
China would outperform the United States by far today. Excluding 
SpaceX, China launched nearly three times more than the rest of U.S. 
industry combined in the first half of 2023, and carried almost eight 
times more mass to orbit than all other U.S. launch operators.\9\
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    \8\ ``The Falcon 9 may now be the safest rocket ever launched,''Ars 
Technica, February 3, 2022, accessed at https://arstechnica.com/
science/2022/02/spacexs-falcon-9-rocket-has-set-a-record-for-most-
consecutive-successes/
    \9\ ``Global Orbital Space Launches Q1 2023,'' BryceTech, n.d., 
accessed at https://brycetech.com/reports/report-documents/
Bryce_Briefing_2023_Q1.pdf; ``Global Orbital Space Launches Q2 2023,'' 
BryceTech, n.d., accessed at https://brycetech.com/reports/report-
documents/Bryce_Briefing_2023_Q2.pdf
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    Most recently, however, this paradigm seems to be failing. AST's 
approach to Starship appears out of family with its general approach 
for both SpaceX and other vehicle licensing among U.S. systems that 
SpaceX is aware of. For example, with Falcon, the iterative design 
process was aptly demonstrated by SpaceX's approach to learn how to 
recover and reuse rockets, which is a huge advantage to the United 
States. Here, from 2012 to 2015, SpaceX undertook a development effort 
to prove out orbital vehicle reusability, a capability long held to be 
impossible for an orbital-class rocket stage. This development 
campaign, which progressed from suborbital to orbital experiments (much 
like Starship) included at first many low and high-altitude flight 
tests in quick succession across several hardware versions of the 
launch system, some of which resulted in a loss of vehicle, and then 
recovery attempts following successful orbital launches of Falcon 9. At 
every stage of the process, we widely publicized and celebrated these 
tests--including failures--which we used to learn and then apply those 
learnings to the vehicle.\10\
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    \10\ ``How Not to Land an Orbital Rocket Booster,'' SpaceX, 
September 14, 2017, accessed at https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=bvim4rsNHkQ
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    SpaceX conducted all of these tests safely. We were permitted to 
learn through flight. We implemented learnings quickly, returned to 
flight quickly, and learned more. And then we achieved success with 
Falcon. Today, since the first successful recovery of a Falcon first 
stage in December 2015, SpaceX has now successfully recovered a Falcon 
booster 235 times and re-flown our rockets 207 times, transforming the 
economics of space access. The United States is the only country that 
has this capability today--not China, not Russia, not Europe. This 
success would not have been possible without rapid development, rapid 
flights, and timely licensing from AST. SpaceX is following the same 
approach with Starlink and Starship today, but we are not experiencing 
the same licensing approach from AST.
V. Launch and Reentry Licensing
    To address these challenges, SpaceX proposes specific improvements 
to the regulatory process for launch and reentry that are vital to 
ensuring America's continued global leadership and competitiveness in 
space. Specifically:

   (1)  Provide AST with significantly more resources (at least 2x) and 
        expedited hiring authority to move quickly to bring onboard 
        additional, qualified technical experts to keep pace with 
        license review. These resources should be specifically (and 
        only) authorized and appropriated for the AST Licensing 
        Division. Additionally, more resources will be for naught if 
        AST is unable to timely and efficiently hire--Congress should 
        empower AST to use expedited hiring authorities to rapidly grow 
        its workforce.

   (2)  Provide AST with new authorities to enable license applicants 
        to self-fund qualified, third-party technical organizations to 
        bolster and expedite AST license review where needed.

   (3)  Provide AST with additional resources and direct AST personnel 
        to travel to launch operator locations to conduct in-person 
        Technical Interchange Meetings (TIM) on-site with license 
        applicants. In-person TIMs are a highly productive and 
        efficient mechanism to clarify technical matters associated 
        with license applications, and to see hardware and launch 
        infrastructure in order to gain an understanding of proposed 
        activities and verifications.

   (4)  Establish shorter mandatory timelines to initiate review, 
        conduct interagency consultations, and complete license 
        applications, and eliminate the tolling loophole. The license 
        application process should be electronic and automated to the 
        maximum extent possible.

   (5)  Direct clarity updates to Part 450 and establish standard, 
        expedited processes for regular and routine license application 
        review, especially for mature vehicles that launch or reenter 
        frequently. Each license application review today is a bespoke 
        effort, even for vehicles and profiles that have flown many 
        times previously. AST should have tiers of review based on 
        operator and vehicle experience and maturity. AST's advisory 
        circulars (ACs) relating to Part 450 are intended to provide 
        guidance to both applicants and reviews, but in many cases they 
        either do not exist or simply reincorporate processes from 
        legacy regulations--which are overly conservative and 
        prescriptive. The regulatory uncertainty associated with Part 
        450 implementation is driving unnecessary burden for both 
        industry and AST. And, the prescriptive and conservative nature 
        of the Part 450 ACs that have been published render them 
        inapplicable when evaluating unique, innovative vehicle 
        features that companies are introducing to add capability, 
        reduce costs, and improve safety. Properly structured 
        regulations should instead encourage technical progress by 
        laying out a clear, responsible path to applicants in advance 
        to achieve compliance.

   (6)  Direct AST to focus only on public safety, not mission success. 
        This is an absolutely critical element of space launch and re-
        entry licensing that has been lost in interpretation. As noted, 
        AST is not responsible for mission assurance, nor is it 
        qualified to perform this function. Congress has specifically 
        identified public safety as the sole objective of launch and 
        reentry licensing, but the vague and interpretive nature of 
        Part 450 has led to regulatory over-reach, where reviewers now 
        devote significant time and resources to consider factors 
        unrelated to public safety and outside the scope and intent of 
        Part 450.

   (7)  Provide authority to expediently issue waivers to outmoded 
        requirements that do not impact public safety.

   (8)  Accelerate environmental reviews by extending existing 
        authority used for airports to space launch and reentry 
        infrastructure, and to provide expedited review for projects of 
        national interest and national security.

   (9)  Establish an accelerated regulatory path, potentially 
        independent of AST, for development and for experimental 
        missions that support national requirements like the Artemis 
        Program. This option would align AST's mission with that of 
        broader national priorities. AST's current experimental 
        authorities should be enhanced to capture innovative system 
        development, particular for those under contract to perform 
        work for the U.S. Government.

  (10)  Align external regulatory timelines and reviews. Under the 
        National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and other relevant 
        laws, AST is often responsible for conducting environmental 
        consultations relating to its licensed activities with other 
        Federal and state agencies. Here, review timelines and 
        requirements are misaligned and incongruent. Congress should 
        implement common sense procedural changes to align inter-agency 
        review schedules, enforce deadlines, and provide expedited 
        review for commercial space projects of national interest or 
        national security.
VI. Human Spaceflight Regulations
    Following the first SpaceShipOne flights in 2004, Congress passed 
the Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act (CSLAA) of 2004.\11\ This 
legislation appropriately established a comprehensive framework 
intended not to regulate for mission success, but rather ``to put in 
place a clear and balanced regulatory regime that promotes the 
development of the emerging commercial human space flight industry, 
while protecting the public health and safety.'' \12\ This structure, 
which remains in place today, incorporated three key elements:
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    \11\ H.R. 5382 (108th)
    \12\ Id.

  --  An informed consent regime. The bill affirmed the ``inherent 
        risk'' of any type of spaceflight--commercial or Government--in 
        acknowledgement of the fundamental differences between space 
        launch and reentry and any mode of common carriage 
        transportation (e.g., commercial aviation). Space vehicle 
        operators must provide significant information to prospective 
        space flight participants about general risks, the vehicle in 
        question, and the operator's safety record. Space flight 
        participants must accept these risks in writing. Informed 
        consent is a common legal practice, and it is in use for many 
        adventure sports, including skydiving with more than 3.9 
        million jumps in the United States in 2022. \13\ The informed 
        consent regime has been very effective in both ensuring public 
        safety and allowing industry development.
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    \13\ ``How safe is skydiving?,'' United States Parachute 
Association, n.d., accessed at https://www.uspa.org/discover/faqs/
safety#::text=Skydiving%20is%20a%20popular%20sport,of%2092
%20jumps%20per%20member).

  --  Occupant safety regulations intended to protect public safety. 
        The 2004 CSLAA requires DOT to issue regulations to ensure safe 
        operation of a vehicle in order to protect public safety. To-
        date, AST has published regulations relating to training and 
        medical condition, environmental control and life support 
        systems, fire suppression and smoke detection, and various 
        other human factors. AST's approach has been appropriate to 
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        date based on regulatory authority and industry development.

  --  Learning Period. The CSLAA properly established the human 
        spaceflight ``learning period,'' often colloquially (and 
        incorrectly) referred to as a ``moratorium,'' that 
        appropriately limits AST from promulgating additional 
        regulations relative to occupant safety during launch and 
        reentry until both industry and AST have sufficient experience 
        and data to consider whether a different safety framework is 
        required. The learning period originally ran through 2012, but 
        has been subsequently extended several times and now is set to 
        expire January 1, 2024. Even with the learning period in place, 
        the law permits AST to promulgate regulations to restrict or 
        prohibit design features that resulted in a serious or fatal 
        injury or that posed a high risk of causing a serious or fatal 
        injury during a licensed or permitted commercial human 
        spaceflight. The law also does not require AST to promulgate 
        human spaceflight regulations on any particular timeline, or at 
        all for that matter.

    SpaceX recommends that Congress extend the human spaceflight 
learning period. The current learning period expiration date of January 
1, 2024 is premature by several years, and the same factors that led 
Congress to extend the learning period in 2012 and 2015 remain true 
today. As an initial matter, based on the above, AST is simply not in a 
position to effectively regulate in this area, nor should it. Both the 
scope of the industry and the number of flights with private 
individuals remain very low, and the existing occupant safety 
requirements under FAA Part 460 effectively protect the public. At this 
stage of development, informed consent is appropriate and protects the 
occupants since spaceflight today is completely unlike commercial 
passenger aircraft transport. Industry is still developing concepts and 
hardware with orbital, sub-orbital, and balloon systems.
    Additionally, not only does AST lack specific expertise in human 
spaceflight systems, it is completely overwhelmed in executing its core 
launch and reentry mission. AST has neither the resources nor the 
expertise to develop regulations in the near-future, and transferring 
funds or personnel from its public safety obligations would serve only 
to compound the challenges AST is facing in licensing launch and 
reentry operations and would not improve safety. If anything, Congress 
should reiterate and reinforce that AST must exclusively focus on 
protecting the public during launches and reentries, and hold AST 
accountable for doing so. Congress should approve a multi-year 
extension of the learning period and support the consensus standards 
development effort underway today on human spaceflight safety.
    Even if AST were adequately processing applications for launches 
and reentries in a timely fashion, it is unprepared to implement human 
spaceflight regulations today or in the next several years. DOT only 
just formally established an Aerospace Rulemaking Committee (SpARC) 
designed to initiate consultation with industry and other experts in 
this area. The process to produce a report alone is expected to take at 
least two years, and most likely longer, plus additional time for 
Congress, AST, and stakeholders to evaluate any recommendations. The 
very reason DOT convened a SpARC is to learn what it should potentially 
do as it relates to human spaceflight, which could include extending 
the learning period further. A lapse in the learning period at the very 
time this SpARC is conducting its work would be the wrong policy 
outcome.
    The Committee should understand that AST's execution of its public 
safety obligations for launch and reentry licensing is totally 
dissimilar from FAA's implementation of aircraft safety statutory 
obligations under a completely unrelated set of statutes, regulations, 
and mission objectives. While FAA has technical authority in aviation 
safety and the protection of airline passengers, it does not have 
similar expertise in spaceflight technical systems beyond public 
safety. It has never been AST's job to evaluate the flightworthiness of 
space systems--nor should it be. AST's job is to ensure that, if a 
failure with a spaceflight system occurs, it does not harm the 
uninvolved public, either persons or property. The differences from 
aircraft worthiness in one case to public safety in the other are vast 
and will remain so for many years.
    Regulations on commercial space were very deliberatively 
constructed in this way. The accompanying bill report to the 2015 CSLCA 
noted that ``[w]ithout launching and operating commercial human 
spaceflights, industry. and regulators have limited data to inform 
safety regulations, which could lead to uninformed or unnecessary 
regulations that would stifle the growing industry.'' \14\ This remains 
true today--indeed, not much has changed since 2015 except a handful of 
flights from a total of three operators, only one orbital.
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  --  While SpaceX has conducted many uncrewed satellite launches for 
        commercial customers, the broader U.S. launch industry is 
        primarily still developing new systems, which have only 
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        years.

  --  There have been very few commercial human spaceflight missions 
        without government astronauts--a total of three to orbit, and 
        all on a system (Dragon) certified by NASA. While Congress and 
        industry anticipated many missions with paying private 
        customers to occur in the years immediately following the 
        passage of the 2004 CSLAA, this did not occur. In reality, 
        there were zero private human spaceflights to sub-orbit or 
        orbit between 2005 and 2021. SpaceX remains the only domestic 
        provider of operational human spaceflight to orbit and has 
        conducted three total missions with a total of 12 space flight 
        participants since 2021. There are only two operational 
        providers of sub-orbital private missions (Blue Origin and 
        Virgin Galactic), who collectively have conducted 11 missions 
        with spaceflight participants since 2021.\15\ This is the very 
        definition of a nascent industry. By comparison, there are more 
        than 45,000 commercial aviation flights in the United States 
        every day that collectively carry 2.9 million passengers, and 
        evidently 3.9 million sky dives annually that remain regulated 
        under an informed consent regime.\16\
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    \15\ ``List of human spaceflights, 2021-present,'' Wikipedia, n.d., 
accessed at https://en.wiki
pedia.org/w/
index.php?title=List_of_human_spaceflights,_2021%E2%80%93present&oldid=1
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    \16\ ``Air Traffic by the Numbers,'' FAA.gov, April 2023, accessed 
at https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/by_the_numbers

  --  Human spaceflight vehicle designs remain fundamentally different 
        from each other--including capsules, winged vehicles, lifting 
        bodies, balloons, automated systems, manually-piloted systems, 
        and others. Unlike aircraft, there is no consensus on space 
        vehicle design or operation, making any common regulatory 
        approach untenable today to both the operator and the 
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        Government.

  --  Both launch vehicles and spacecraft are early in their design 
        cycles and continue to see significant changes in design and 
        operational concepts. This rapid iteration is necessary to 
        eventually get to a future with airplane-like operations. 
        Otherwise, premature occupant safety regulations risk freezing 
        the industry in an early stage, slowing or inhibiting the 
        development of technologies that would materially improve 
        safety.

  --  There are no accepted metrics to evaluate the readiness of either 
        FAA or industry to proceed to a different regulatory structure, 
        as noted by COMSTAC.

  --  The 2015 CSLCA encouraged the commercial space sector, with AST 
        facilitation, to develop voluntary industry consensus 
        standards. This development has been far slower than Congress 
        anticipated due to limited market, operational experience, and 
        vehicle systems, including zero flights with space flight 
        participants until six years after the law was passed. However, 
        development has accelerated over the past year. There are now 
        10 published human spaceflight standards, and others that are 
        in development. A comprehensive set of consensus standards may 
        be available by the end of the decade. Congress should allow 
        this process to unfold before providing AST with preemptory 
        authority that would be ill-informed without the completion of 
        this process.

    Continued industry development, completion of consensus standards, 
and the ongoing work of the Part 460 SpARC, and AST's fundamental lack 
of resources all demonstrate the need for Congress to pass a multi-year 
extension of the learning period.
VII. Conclusion
    SpaceX respectfully urges the Committee to take action to keep the 
U.S. as the world's leader in spaceflight during this pivotal time. 
Action is important not only to SpaceX, but to the industry as a whole. 
U.S. leadership and the well-being of all Americans hinge on 
appropriate action. The private sector is working hard to support the 
Nation, but it needs the help of Congress and regulatory agencies. AST 
can be both an enabler of safe spaceflight and one of innovation. Its 
role in executing its licensing functions and promoting the U.S. 
commercial launch industry has never been more important, and it is at 
a crossroads. SpaceX respectfully urges the Committee to help AST 
perform its statutory obligations given the rapid pace of growth in 
this industry. Given the challenges of its limited workforce and 
inflexible interpretation of regulatory requirements, U.S. leadership 
in space will suffer without action. SpaceX thanks the Committee for 
convening this hearing. We stand ready to help the Committee take 
productive action on these issues in the remaining months of this year.
    Please contact [email protected] with any questions or if 
we can provide any additional information.

    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Our final witness is Phil 
Joyce. Mr. Joyce is the Senior Vice President of the New 
Shepard Business Unit at Blue Origin.
    He has spent over four decades in aerospace and defense 
working, including a focus on human spaceflight and launch 
vehicle development. Mr. Joyce, you are recognized for your 
opening statement.

   STATEMENT OF PHIL JOYCE, SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW 
               SHEPARD BUSINESS UNIT, BLUE ORIGIN

    Mr. Joyce. Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, thank you 
for the opportunity to speak with you today. Blue Origin's team 
is focused on radically reducing the cost of access to space, 
harnessing its vast resources, and inspiring future 
generations.
    We build and operate reusable rocket engines and launch 
vehicles, in-space systems, and lunar landers. The products we 
create will enable our vision of millions of people living and 
working in space for the benefit of Earth, a vision that must 
be built on a foundation of safety, innovation, and 
competition.
    At Blue Origin, we recognize that the U.S. Government is a 
critical partner in advancing our vision. On July 20th, 2021, 
our new Shepard suborbital rocket completed its first 
commercial human spaceflight, safely caring four humans above 
the Karman line and back to Earth.
    This milestone was made possible by a deliberate step by 
step test and verification program conducted over many years 
with a singular focus on safety. Since then, New Shepard has 
flown 5 percent of the world's population of astronauts above 
the Karman line, and almost 9 percent of the women, and many 
firsts for humans in space.
    Our astronauts return to Earth forever transformed by their 
experience and share this with the rest of the world to inspire 
positive change. Since the dawn of the space age, humans in 
space have united the planet and there is no time like the 
present to remind us how critical this is for humanity.
    The first step to an enduring human presence in space is 
launch. The FAA's authority in this area is clear and its 
regulatory powers are extensive. Blue Origin and the other 
companies here provide the FAA with comprehensive data about 
our systems and processes to ensure the safety of the 
uninvolved public and property.
    A recent experience partnering with the FAA to investigate 
a mishap on an uncrewed New Shepard flight is an example of the 
effectiveness of the current regulations. Our flight safety 
systems worked as designed, and the FAA was able to efficiently 
verify this due to the insights we have provided through the 
licensing process.
    To continue promoting safety and innovation, the FAA needs 
three things. First, the FAA needs a more streamlined process. 
To keep pace with industry, both the substance and 
administration of launch regulations should be improved.
    We encourage Congress to support the FAA's effort to 
generate guidance, process, tools, and training. This will 
allow the FAA to use their staff more efficiently without 
adding unnecessary burdens to operators.
    Second, the FAA needs sufficient resources to keep up with 
licensing. Congress and the FAA helped accelerate the 
development of the commercial spaceflight industry, and now the 
FAA is struggling to keep pace.
    Streamline processes will help, but the FAA needs more 
funding to deal with the increase in launches. This is a great 
problem to have. It is why you passed the Commercial Space 
Launch Act in the first place.
    Third, the FAA needs time. The learning period is an 
opportunity for the FAA to gain experience in human spaceflight 
before it regulates further. The learning period should be 
extended. The FAA should be encouraged to talk to industry, 
build consensus, and scale up its licensing capabilities. In 
the meantime, launch operations such as New Shepard will 
continue, and this will provide valuable insight to the FAA and 
the industry.
    Beyond the FAA, Congress should think broadly about how to 
build a framework for mission authorization that should be 
correctly scoped and draw clear boundaries between agencies. We 
also recommend Congress designate a single agency as the hub 
for authorization of commercial space activity.
    In conclusion, commercial human spaceflight is an American 
success story in progress. Congress has an opportunity to help 
write the next chapter and spur continued innovation in the 
space economy. From launch to the moon and beyond, U.S. 
leadership is a necessity.
    To cement our role, we need a competitive regulatory 
environment, one that realizes the potential for commercial 
investment alongside our civil and national security 
initiatives. We look forward to making progress toward the 
dream of millions of people living and working in space for the 
benefit of Earth. Thank you for the opportunity to testify 
today.
    [The prepared statement of Mr. Joyce follows:]

       Prepared Statement of Phil Joyce, Senior Vice President, 
                 New Shepard Business Unit, Blue Origin
    Chair Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, and members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today 
about commercial human spaceflight, a topic that is fundamental to Blue 
Origin's near and long-term vision.
             THE FUTURE OF HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT AT BLUE ORIGIN
    Blue Origin is building a road to space for the benefit of Earth. 
Our team is focused on radically reducing the cost of access, 
harnessing its vast resources, and inspiring future generations. We 
build and operate reusable rocket engines and launch vehicles, in-space 
systems, and lunar landers. Blue Origin has grown into a company of 
more than 10,000 employees, with facilities in seven states and a 
nationwide supply chain. The vehicles and in-space systems we create 
will enable our vision of millions of people living and working in 
space, a vision that relies on the principles of safety, innovation, 
and competition. Blue Origin's astronauts return to Earth forever 
changed by their experience and share this with the rest of the world 
as champions of space for the benefit of Earth.
NEW SHEPARD--SUBORBITAL LAUNCH
    On July 20, 2021, Blue Origin's New Shepard suborbital rocket 
completed its first commercial human spaceflight, safely carrying four 
humans above the Karman line and back to Earth. Since then, New Shepard 
has flown 5 percent of the world's astronauts above the Karman line, 9 
percent of the women, and many firsts for humans in space. We expect to 
fly more than 1,000 humans to space in the coming years.
    Safety is--and always will be--Blue Origin's highest priority. 
These milestones in human flight were preceded by years of a 
deliberate, step-by-step test and verification program with a singular 
focus on safety. Blue Origin has been flight testing the New Shepard 
rocket and its redundant safety systems since 2012. The program has had 
22 successful consecutive missions, including three successful escape 
tests, showing that the crew escape system can activate safely in any 
phase of flight. This safety system was activated during the most 
recent uncrewed New Shepard mission in an unplanned event and performed 
flawlessly.
    The foundation of New Shepard's safety architecture is a design and 
verification process that incorporates best industry practice from 
aerospace and other safety-critical industries. New Shepard's crew 
capsule was designed with numerous redundant safety systems that 
provide layers of protection to our astronaut crews. For example, the 
capsule can land with only one of its three parachutes deployed, as the 
landing deceleration system, crushable ring on the bottom of the 
capsule, and seats designed to absorb g-forces all act as back-up 
systems to slow the capsule and allow it to land astronauts safely. 
This attention to detail in our safety system design is a result of our 
culture, which puts safety at the forefront of all our operations.
NEW GLENN--ORBITAL LAUNCH
    As the New Shepard program gains experience through design, build, 
test, and operation, lessons learned have been and continue to be 
applied to New Glenn, Blue Origin's orbital launch vehicle. These 
lessons have been particularly beneficial in the areas of autonomy, 
guidance, vertical landing architecture, powerful and throttleable 
liquid engines, and lean operations. New Glenn's reusable first stage 
is built for a minimum of 25 missions and though early operations are 
devoted to payload launch, the vehicle is also engineered with the 
safety and redundancy required to fly humans. New Glenn is purpose-
built to deliver high volume and mass to orbit and is a key to 
unlocking our long-term vision--a future where people and heavy 
industries can work in space to preserve Earth, humanity's blue origin.
ORBITAL REEF--COMMERCIAL SPACE STATION
    Orbital Reef will revolutionize human spaceflight in low Earth 
orbit (LEO). This unique destination will provide the essential 
infrastructure needed to scale economic activity and open new markets 
in space. The next era of the space station will go beyond research to 
include entertainment, tourism, and so much more. Attached modules of 
many types can experiment with any type of business, including: 
government-sponsored space research; industrial operations ranging from 
entertainment and advertising to filmmaking, sports, and gaming, to 
applications research and manufacturing; passenger travel starting with 
adventure travel, then evolving to tourism and orbital living.
    In the near future, LEO will be the logical place to mature 
technology, train astronauts, conduct science, and inspire students. 
This means we need to assure access for crew and cargo, preserve a 
sustainable working environment free of orbital debris, and prioritize 
investments in next-generation research capabilities.
LUNAR LANDER
    Lunar permanence has been core to Blue Origin's vision since the 
beginning. We are a proud partner with NASA on the Artemis program, 
building the Sustaining Lunar Development lander to take astronauts 
back to the Moon and create a sustainable human presence.
    Blue Origin's lunar lander and supporting systems are the 
foundational elements of our broader architecture to enable our vision 
of building a road to space for the benefit of Earth. To realize the 
value of the Moon's potential, secure a sustained lunar presence, and 
achieve Blue's goal of lunar permanence, we need reliable, recurring 
lunar transportation.
              GOVERNMENT STAKEHOLDERS IN HUMAN SPACEFLIGHT
LAUNCH
    The Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Office of Commercial 
Space Transportation (AST) is responsible for regulating the U.S. 
commercial space transportation industry, ``to ensure compliance with 
international obligations of the United States, and to protect the 
public health and safety, safety of property, and national security and 
foreign policy interests of the United States.'' \1\
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Human Spaceflight Regulation
    In 2004, the Commercial Space Launch Amendments Act (CSLAA) was 
passed by Congress and granted the Secretary of Transportation the 
authority to regulate launch and reentry of commercial spacecraft 
carrying humans.\2\ This legislation provided limitations to ensure 
that a nascent industry and its regulator were able to build experience 
in human spaceflight safety. These limitations, known as the `learning 
period,' require that no safety regulations for design features or 
operating practices can be promulgated unless they are created after an 
event resulting in a serious or fatal injury (or the risk of such an 
injury). In response to this congressional action, the FAA published 
Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) Part 460.
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    Part 460 does address some aspects of occupant safety, including 
requirements to protect crew members who are essential to a vehicle's 
flight safety system and therefore public safety. These include 
training and environmental controls that guard the crew's ability to 
carry out safety-critical tasks, as well as additional requirements for 
pilots and remote operators.\3\ Space flight participants (SFPs) are 
required to be trained for emergency conditions and are informed in 
detail as to the risks of spaceflight.\4\ This process, known as 
`informed consent,' requires operators to communicate safety records 
throughout the history of spaceflight, including all known hazards and 
risks associated with their mission, and acknowledge there are unknown 
hazards associated with spaceflight. Written documentation is followed 
by an opportunity to ask oral questions to ensure risks are well 
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Launch & Reentry Regulations
    All launch activity, regardless of humans on board, requires a 
license from the FAA. Licensing is performed under the regulations 
found in 14 CFR Part 450, though legacy operators may hold active 
licenses under the legacy requirements of Part 431 (Reusable Launch 
Vehicles) and Part 415 (Expendable Launch Vehicle). Part 450 is a 
result of Space Policy Directive-2 (SPD-2)\5\ published in 2018 which 
directed a review and revision of launch and re-entry licensing for the 
purpose of streamlining. The policy requires a single license for all 
operations and the use of primarily performance-based criteria.
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    Blue Origin and many other industry stakeholders were, and continue 
to be, extremely supportive of the goals of SPD-2. After an accelerated 
rulemaking process, the FAA published the Part 450 regulations which 
became effective in March 2021. As of July 2023, only four licenses 
have been granted.\6\ The implementation of these regulations is 
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Challenges and Recommendations'' July 11, 2023 https://www.faa.gov/
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IN-SPACE ACTIVITY
    Article VI of the Outer Space Treaty states that ``[t]he activities 
of non-governmental entities in outer space . . . shall require 
authorization and continuing supervision by the appropriate State Party 
to the Treaty.'' \7\ The United States currently does not vest a single 
agency with that authority.
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    \7\ Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the 
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Celestial Bodies (1967), 610 U.N.T.S. 205, 18 U.S.T. 2410.
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    Activities in space are currently monitored and licensed by 
numerous U.S. government agencies to satisfy this obligation. The 
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) licenses satellites and earth 
stations for space-based services and is responsible for allocation of 
spectrum for all public and private actors. The National Oceanic and 
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory 
Affairs Office (CRSRA) licenses operations of commercial imaging 
satellites. The Department of Defense (DoD) currently provides 
monitoring and Space Situational Awareness (SSA) services for 
commercial operators on orbit. The Office of Space Commerce (OSC) has 
begun work on a parallel SSA service in anticipation of transitioning 
these responsibilities from the DoD. Lastly, FAA commercial space 
launch licenses require advanced review of all payloads for potential 
impacts to national security, international obligations, and foreign 
policy through an interagency process known as a Payload Determination.
NASA
    The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) does not 
have regulatory authority over commercial human spaceflight, but NASA 
plays an important role as a stakeholder in U.S. space activity. NASA's 
Commercial Crew Program has successfully utilized commercial services 
for launch to the International Space Station (ISS) since 2020. While 
these launches are licensed by the FAA, NASA maintains responsibility 
for Crew Safety outside of the FAA's Part 460 Regulations.
    NASA is also engaging with commercial industry's suborbital vehicle 
programs through an effort known as Suborbital Crew (SubC). For this 
program, NASA has changed its approach to managing the safety of their 
personnel.\8\ Rather than requiring formal certification programs, 
companies must present a ``safety case'' that explains their internal 
safety processes, which NASA will evaluate to make a determination.
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    POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENABLE CONTINUED SAFETY, INNOVATION, 
                              COMPETITION
EXTEND THE LEARNING PERIOD
    The learning period has had a positive impact on the development of 
commercial human spaceflight, including at Blue Origin. This provision 
is set to expire on January 1, 2024 and Congress should act with 
urgency to provide an extension that will allow industry and the FAA to 
demonstrate readiness for potential next steps.
Industry Learning & Readiness
    The human spaceflight learning period has been in statute since 
2005, but the first FAA-licensed launch with a paying customer on board 
was New Shepard's first human flight in July 2021. As of October 18, 
2023, only 22 commercial human flights have been licensed for three 
providers, along with seven NASA human spaceflight missions.\9\ Blue 
Origin is proud to be a part of this onset of activity, but it does not 
by itself demand further regulation. Instead, gathering invaluable 
flight data and experience from multiple providers and technologies 
begins a critical phase of learning under the learning period.
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Commercial Human Space Flight Activities Most Appropriate for New 
Safety Framework'' Sept. 2023, https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/
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    Safety frameworks for spaceflight can be robust while also 
evolving. As flight and test experience grows, new data can validate 
requirements or identify areas for improvement. The ability to react to 
new information and iterate within tools, processes, and criteria, 
strengthens the commercial industry's contributions toward innovation. 
Gains in both efficiency and safety are the spirit of innovation that 
can open access to space and maintain U.S. leadership.
FAA Learning & Readiness
    A dynamic, evolving industry needs to be supported by an equally 
agile regulator. Congress made it clear that the FAA has a 
responsibility to use the learning period to prepare:

        ``Nothing in this subsection shall be construed to limit the 
        authority of the Secretary to discuss potential regulatory 
        approaches, potential performance standards, or any other topic 
        related to this subsection with the commercial space industry, 
        including observations, findings, and recommendations from the 
        Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee, or its 
        successor organization, prior to the issuance of a notice of 
        proposed rulemaking.'' \10\
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    The FAA, through the Commercial Space Transportation Advisory 
Committee (COMSTAC) and their exposure to commercial operations, has 
begun to engage with industry, but Congress should continue to 
encourage and support these actions. Blue Origin advocates that the 
following two forums for should be leveraged further by the FAA.
    First, the FAA should continue to increase its engagement in the 
industry consensus standards process as required in statute.\11\ While 
operators, academics, and associations develop content, the FAA can 
facilitate discussions on how standards might be used in the future, 
and where they have successfully been used in the past. The FAA has 
insights into safety procedures across the industry, giving them an 
opportunity to nudge industry in the most helpful directions. This 
could have a powerful impact on prioritization of efforts for the 
commercial space voluntary consensus standards.
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    Second, the FAA AST recently chartered an Aerospace Rulemaking 
Committee (``SpARC'') to request industry guidance on occupant 
safety.\12\ Blue Origin is proud to be a member of this committee and 
looks forward to contributing our thoughts. The charter is open for 24 
months, and initial industry recommendations are due after the first 
year. We recommend that the FAA take advantage of the full charter 
duration, review report content, ask questions, debate with industry, 
and conclude the process with a well understood path forward. 
Recommendations from the SpARC should feed into measurable FAA AST 
plans for future regulatory action. These plans should include 
workforce needs, tool improvements, and a roadmap for guidance 
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    The three U.S. commercial human spaceflight launch providers 
operating today have three fundamentally different architectures: 
suborbital and orbital; piloted, autonomous, and hybrid; vertical and 
horizontal takeoff and landing. There is no one-size-fits-all criteria 
for safety in a market as diverse as human spaceflight. A prospective 
regulatory framework needs to be results-oriented rather than 
prescriptive because the means of compliance to meet the requirement 
are likely to vary by mission profile and design choices.
    As more operators apply for, or transition to, licenses under the 
newest regulations in Part 450, the FAA AST has an opportunity to 
demonstrate success of a flexible, performance-based regime. Metrics 
from this process can be regularly reported to Congress to evaluate 
readiness for the sunset of the learning period. The learning period 
should remain in place until reports show decreasing review timelines, 
increasing throughput in all licensing phases (i.e., pre-application, 
complete enough, final review), increasing cadence of AC publication 
and AC updates, and increasing transparency into the licensing process.
CONDUCT STREAMLINING EFFORTS FOR LAUNCH LICENSING
    The FAA faces near-term challenges with implementing these critical 
public safety regulations given the increasing volume of prospective 
launch providers and cadence of launches. During the December 2022 
COMSTAC meeting, it was indicated there was a backlog in licensing and 
that the FAA AST will need to prioritize work and put some license 
applications in a queue prior to assessment.\13\ Difficulties in 
implementing Part 450 regulations only exacerbate this workload. The 
FAA requested specific feedback from the COMSTAC on potential 
improvements to the Part 450 regime in May of 2023. \14\
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Coleman, ``Meeting Minutes'' Dec. 15 2022 https://www.faa.gov/sites/
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    Blue Origin greatly appreciates FAA's desire to continuously 
improve processes, eliminate duplication and inefficiencies, and 
appropriately allocate limited resources. Congress can support these 
efforts by allowing the FAA to invest in and develop a suite of tools 
to automate the most cumbersome manual tasks done today by license 
evaluators. These tools could be the fastest way to realize a reduction 
in processing timelines and provide transparency to applicants. Further 
review of Part 450 implementation should include identification of key 
roles and expertise required to evaluate license applications in a 
performance-based framework. Solutions must consider a strategy for 
hiring and training of these roles while considering attrition 
estimates and availability of personnel with the requisite 
qualifications in the larger workforce.
    Innovation needs to exist in our vehicles and our regulatory 
processes if the U.S. is to maintain our competitiveness in the global 
launch market. Blue Origin looks forward to continuing to work with 
Congress and the FAA to identify these opportunities.
DEFINE MISSION AUTHORIZATION & APPLY LESSONS LEARNED
    Despite the need for continued streamlining and modernization of 
their role, the FAA's launch and reentry authority has been clear for 
over 30 years, providing commercial entities clarity and certainty as 
they enter the market. The same cannot be said for the growing body of 
capabilities being developed for orbital, cislunar, and lunar 
ecosystems, which go far beyond transportation. The lack of a single 
authority over space objects and activities other than launch, 
telecommunications, or remote sensing has led to several challenges as 
executive agencies attempt to exercise partial authority in the absence 
of congressional clarity. Where interagency processes have been used to 
compensate, they have failed to create approval processes that are 
transparent and have meaningful deadlines.
    Blue Origin's human-centric vision of space will require clarity as 
we pursue initial capabilities in LEO and on the Moon. We urge Congress 
to define the authorization framework for in-space activities and 
ensure that every effort is taken to eliminate duplicative 
requirements, limit unstructured interagency processes, and draw clear 
boundaries between agencies with related authorities. Any in-space 
activity authorization regime should have a single government owner and 
include the following three key aspects:

  1)  Strict Timelines. An activity should be automatically authorized 
        within 180 days unless a specific procedural, regulatory, 
        treaty or national security prohibition is found. This provides 
        a permissive system for innovation and can be scaled more 
        readily than overly restrictive or prescriptive requirements. 
        Where a proposed activity requires inter-agency review to 
        ascertain impacts or overlaps with the regulating authority of 
        another agency, these dependencies should be identified to the 
        operator within a short interim deadline.

  2)  Self-certification. Mission authorization should be granted for 
        categories of potential activities rather than specific 
        instances, where appropriate. Non-governmental entities would 
        file an outline of their proposed activities and the 
        authorization under which they fall, not unlike a flight plan. 
        Each operator would be responsible for updating this register 
        as needed to satisfy continuing supervision requirements.

  3)  Transparency. Maintaining transparency to the authorization 
        process is important for commercial service providers to build 
        confidence in an industry that necessitates long lead planning. 
        Clear and expedient deadlines should be implemented so that 
        non-governmental entities are not caught in regulatory limbo 
        indefinitely. Active communication paths between operators and 
        the authorizing agency should be encouraged during a review 
        period as each new proposed activity will present a unique 
        challenge.
RESOURCE AGENCIES WITH AUTHORITY IN SPACE
    A competitive and innovative regulatory framework for commercial 
space activities will need resources that support scaling with the 
industry. We encourage Congress to provide appropriate funding to 
agencies with authorities in-space. Congress and the FAA helped 
accelerate the development of the commercial space launch industry, and 
now the FAA is struggling to scale with the cadence of operation. 
Streamlining regulations and administrative processes and exploring the 
possibility for increased training opportunities will help utilize 
resources more efficiently, but more funding is required to get the 
right people and process in place. Similarly, as mission authorization 
requirements are clarified, Congress should ensure that resources match 
the scope of activities.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to testify before the committee 
today. The United States is a global leader in human spaceflight. Blue 
Origin is proud to be a part of this legacy.

    Senator Sinema. Thank you so much, Mr. Joyce. I am now 
going to recognize myself for a first round of questions. It 
took 16 years to launch the first commercial human spaceflight 
after the commercial learning period came into effect in 2005.
    There have been just 64 total private astronauts sent to 
space between three total companies, with most of those 
occurring in the last couple of years. A lack of flight data 
and widely diverse operations have made it difficult to find 
consensus on workable industry wide passenger safety standards 
during the learning period.
    Ms. Bandla, you highlight in your testimony that Virgin 
Galactic's Mesa manufacturing complex is intended to accelerate 
progress from conceptual design to production to final assembly 
in order to reach a target of 400 flights per year. I am not 
sure that the industry can reach this kind of scalability fast 
enough if we just extend the learning period without thinking 
through changes.
    So, in your view, how should Congress best extend the 
learning period while ensuring sufficient collaboration between 
the FAA, industry, and other stakeholders so the FAA is 
prepared to holistically regulate human spaceflight safely? And 
what do you believe to be a proper timetable?
    Ms. Bandla. Madam Chair, thank you for the question, and 
you are absolutely right. The intent of the learning period was 
to allow commercial companies to look at space flight in a way 
that does not have bounds on prescribed regulation.
    So, they had the ability to develop, to test new 
capabilities, new innovations, collect data, create a knowledge 
base of lessons learned to inform a future safety framework. 
And again, you are correct, it did--it took us a longer time 
than envisioned in that original bill because commercial 
spaceflight companies do hold safety above all and are cautious 
in proceeding forward because we are carrying humans.
    But we are at an inflection point. The companies here on 
the panel have entered commercial operations for human 
spaceflight and are starting to fly for commercial purposes and 
at that regular cadence that we all envision. So, it is now the 
time to have those discussions.
    And I completely agree, we should not be moving the 
goalposts just to move the goalposts. But now is the time, 
because we have data, we have operators, to discuss what that 
framework looks like. That is the important part.
    The learning period should not lapse without having a 
blueprint for what a safety framework looks like for human 
spaceflight so that we can look at what areas need to be 
regulated, what are the consequences of that, making sure it is 
still light touch to allow innovation, and also importantly, 
that the FAA is resourced with the funds and the expertise to 
carry out that framework.
    So, I completely agree. We shouldn't just extend. And there 
is ways to rather extend, but to transition the industry 
without a lapse of the learning period. We take this time to 
get industry and Government stakeholders together to look at 
what that blueprint is, and that could include milestones such 
as looking at safety standards, how safety standards are 
working, what area of safety standards are being developed in 
industry, and how we can transfer that to a blueprint that, 
again, I must state, needs to be in place before the learning 
period lapses. And in terms of timeline, this is going to take 
a few years.
    While we are entering commercial operations, Galactic has 
flown nine times, and we still--I still believe that there 
should be more flights to collect data. So about 8 years is our 
timeline for, ideal timeline for having these discussions.
    Senator Sinema. And do our other industry representatives 
have anything to add here before I move on to the next 
question?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. I think to your point, one thing we are 
working with AST on right now is we are in a--committee thing 
where the industry gets together and we work together as a 
team, and we are going to make some recommendations to AST for 
what those regulations might look like.
    So, I think it is inappropriate to say we are not working 
forward on those regulations right now. We are actively 
starting to work those together as an industry team and making 
recommendations.
    I think the first step we are doing is we are trying to 
understand what is the benefit of regulations, why are we doing 
regulations? Are they to help the industry? Are they to fill in 
a safety hole gap? What is the purpose of the regulations?
    And then once we understand that purpose for the 
regulations, then I can think we can start to build some 
consensus about what those regulations should be. So, I think 
it is important to recognize that we are already actively 
working that, and it is appropriate to extend this learning 
period for a significant period of time while we have these 
discussions amongst ourselves, and we can make coherent and 
complete recommendations back to the FAA.
    Mr. Joyce. Yes. Just one point I would like to add. It is a 
great question. You pointed out that we just started flying 
commercial astronauts just a couple of years ago.
    So, we are still learning. So, the learning period is 
appropriate. And extending the learning period for the kind of 
time that we are talking about here is not only going to allow 
us to develop experience through operations and improve our 
safety systems. It is also going to allow new entrants into 
this industry.
    We don't want to shut the door behind us because the lead 
we have is remarkable and we need to continue that going 
forward.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. I now recognize Senator Schmitt 
for his first set of questions.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Gerstenmaier, 
Mr. Joyce, this is for you two primarily. An example of I think 
some really intriguing--a development here in potentially 
critical technology is nuclear propulsion. Talked a little 
about--this a little bit yesterday. You both talk about how 
important sustained testing is to the organization of--and 
further development of your vehicles.
    Can you all talk about how just a one-day delay in the 
mission, or the result of a delayed FAA license can set back, 
you know, missions for months, right. I mean, how does that 
work for you? And I think, I guess the second part of that, and 
I will just ask and let you guys go.
    As you look to potentially integrate nuclear propulsion 
into Starship, or New Glenn, or future vehicles, can you talk 
about how the delays in that, you know, the launch or testing 
of these vehicles jeopardizes future integration of 
technologies, like I mentioned, nuclear propulsion in getting 
us to Mars specifically?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. First of all, I would say that, you know, 
our approach to the way we do development is we have a very 
aggressive test program where there is no humans on the 
spacecraft, and we test the spacecraft in an environment to 
understand how it actually flies and operates.
    We also do that consistent protecting the public. We want 
to make sure that no one gets hurt. Nothing is damaged except 
maybe our own facilities. But we use that as a series of test 
flights. With that approach, it is important we fly as soon as 
we can--the hardware is really ready to go fly.
    When we have regulatory delays, such as we are facing right 
now, that slows down this developmental test flight and 
ultimately slows down our support to NASA and slows down our 
support to what we need to do for the--to return humans back to 
the surface of the moon again.
    So, it is critically important that these delays may seem 
small in the big scheme of things, but a delay--continuous 
delay of each and every test flight just adds up and eventually 
we will lose our lead and we will see China land on the moon 
before we do. And it would be a shame if we did that only 
because of regulatory burden and we didn't do it because we 
were not technically ready to go achieve and innovate.
    So, I think it is absolutely critical we get a regulatory 
framework that allows us to fly at the fastest flight rate that 
we can fly on and fly still safely--protect the public and 
protect people on board. In terms of nuclear propulsion, I 
think that is a very interesting technology that is coming 
online. I think research from other agencies like NASA and 
other organizations are appropriate to go look at that.
    When that technology kind of gets developed by some of the 
other Government agencies, then we on the private sector can 
pull that in and start using that in our operational vehicles.
    But I think our focus right now is trying to push the 
capability to bring this next generation of heavy lift launch 
vehicles in place, Starship, that can support multiple 
destinations to the moon and ultimately to Mars and help us 
have this vision of moving human presence into the solar 
system.
    Mr. Joyce. I guess what I will add--that nuclear propulsion 
is a game changer for in-space operations. It is an incredibly 
attractive technology. It obviously needs careful consideration 
for safety considerations. We think it is important that--you 
asked the question about delays in launch.
    And so, for commercial endeavors where private investment 
is being brought to bear, significant private investment, 
delays in the process are very expensive. We want to enable 
industry to move as quickly as possible in a safe way, working 
with the Government agencies that are appropriate, an 
interagency process, because really it all starts with launch.
    And getting through those regulations and streamlining 
these processes is important for this kind of a game changer 
technology going forward.
    Senator Schmitt. And as both of you notice, as a followup, 
we discussed yesterday sort of, you know, on this committee and 
then also on the Armed Services committee, and both your 
companies contract with DOD and support vital national security 
efforts.
    Can you talk a little bit about the balance between truly 
national security missions and truly commercial missions and 
why it is important that one not limit the other?
    Mr. Joyce. Well, at Blue Origin, and I think my colleague 
here will say the same thing, that a lot of the commercial 
activity enables the defense activity and vice versa.
    Private investment, significant private investment in 
commercial human spaceflight at Blue Origin is enabling 
technologies that are being applied to our DOD contracts. 
Specifically, the technologies that I work on New Shepard are 
being utilized on the New Glenn heavy launch vehicle that is 
the launch vehicle that the Space Force is looking at and we 
are excited to hopefully participate in that program going 
forward.
    These investments, these technologies, processes, and 
people provide a coupling between the two and provide a more 
rapid delivery of capability to the Space Force in particular.
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. And I would totally agree that they are 
very synergistic to commercial, and your national security 
activities really feed off of each other.
    Starship, which we are doing for commercial activities 
predominantly, will have tremendous benefit to the national 
security space side. We will have a new capability to launch 
extremely large satellites to low-Earth orbit and also sponsor 
missions around the moon and other areas.
    So again, there is a natural synergy between the two. Even 
Starlink that we are using for commercial Internet services has 
applications in the secure--national security domain. So, there 
is a very strong synergy between that.
    To be a leader and technology allows you to be a leader in 
the commercial activities, but also in national security 
activities.
    Senator Schmitt. Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you. Senator Cruz is the Ranking 
Member of the full Commerce subcommittee, and he is now 
recognized for his opening statements. Thanks so much, Senator 
Cruz.

                  STATEMENT OF HON. TED CRUZ, 
                    U.S. SENATOR FROM TEXAS

    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Madam Chair, Ranking Member 
Schmitt. Thank you both for the terrific job you are doing with 
this very important subcommittee. And welcome to each of the 
witnesses.
    Since I was first elected to the Senate 11 years ago, I 
have been proud to help lead nearly every major piece of space 
legislation that has been signed into law. Just last year as 
part of my NASA Authorization Act, which I led alongside 
Senator Sinema, Senator Wicker, and Senator Cantwell.
    That legislation was included in the CHIPS and Sciences 
Act, securing, among other things, an extension of the 
International Space Station to 2030. I am especially proud that 
Texas is at the forefront of American leadership in space, from 
NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, home to our astronaut 
corps and mission control, to the myriad of commercial space 
companies across the State, including SpaceX and Blue Origin, 
who are both here today. The road to the final frontier runs 
through Texas.
    But we can't rest on our laurels. As the pace of commercial 
space activity has picked up, our regulatory system has started 
to strain and is now showing serious cracks. Some of our 
witnesses have hit on this point today.
    But it is worth noting that if the system breaks and the 
commercial space industry grinds to a halt, the risk is far 
more substantial than a few billionaires losing their ability 
to take joyrides in space.
    The Government relies on a vibrant domestic commercial 
space sector for access to space, whether that is transporting 
our astronauts to the ISS, sending rovers to Mars, launching 
national security missions, or any of the other myriad space 
missions.
    On most policy issues, my philosophy is quite clear, get 
Government out of the way to the greatest extent possible and 
let the private sector roar. I believe the commercial space 
sector holds tremendous potential and I have long said that I 
think the first trillionaire will be made in space.
    Previously a domain exclusively of Governments, upstart 
commercial companies have helped democratize space in a way 
that very few thought possible even a decade ago. Along the 
way, they have helped drive down the price point of launch, 
which has helped save the taxpayer money, and has led to a 
proliferation of new technologies and plans for in-space 
activities.
    But to accommodate this growth and to enable the future 
potential, the regulatory framework must be clearly defined, 
allow for innovation and be accountable for the actions it does 
or does not take.
    As we think about regulation and commercial space, top of 
mind for many is the expiration of the learning period. This is 
understandable and an issue we need to, and I believe will 
address. But we need to answer the broader and more 
definitional questions about what the future of regulation 
looks like, not just for the next 2 years, but for the next 20.
    The prior Administration did good work to try to update and 
modernize launch and reentry regulations, but there is a lot of 
work still to be done. Similarly, we need to address the still 
burdensome remote sensing regulations, and we need to cut red 
tape around all the various types of permitting that permeate 
commercial space.
    This hearing today is an opportunity to learn from those in 
industry, and the academy, and from a former policymaker about 
the state of commercial space, and to reflect on how the 
current regulatory scheme is or is not working.
    In my opinion, too many agencies are involved. It slows 
technological and scientific advancements, and it puts us at a 
disadvantage compared to our international competitors and 
rivals. It is long past time that we create a true one stop 
shop for the regulation and licensing of commercial space 
activities and make the United States the destination of choice 
for commercial space companies looking to set up shop.
    That all starts with regulatory certainty, transparency, 
and accountability. Finally, I mentioned the ISS. It is 
imperative that the United States maintain a human presence in 
low-Earth orbit. With ISS's mission extended until 2030, it is 
important to talk about what is next.
    Not only is LEO the tip of the spear on commercialization 
of space, but more fundamentally it is a strategic domain where 
we cannot afford to cede our leadership, especially to 
communist China.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today and to 
continuing to work with Chairwoman Cantwell, subcommittee 
Chairwoman Sinema, Ranking Member Schmitt, as we together craft 
a bipartisan, bold, and forward looking commercial space bill. 
Thank you.
    Senator Sinema. Senator Cruz, you are recognized for your 
questions, if you would like to.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you, Madam Chair. Mr. Gerstenmaier, 
welcome. Thank you for being here today. Thank you for your 
many years of service with NASA.
    I think I can speak for many members of this committee when 
I say that we were all watching with excitement as Starship 
made its first test flight at Boca Chica earlier this year, and 
we look forward to you all proceeding with your next launch and 
more as you get ready to help put American boots back on the 
lunar surface.
    I also greatly appreciated the opportunity recently to 
visit Starbase in Boca Chica, Texas, over the August recess to 
see firsthand the incredible work that SpaceX is doing in South 
Texas. And I don't want to exclude Mr. Joyce here. Van Horn is 
on my list, and I am planning to get out and see the great work 
Blue is doing in West Texas as well.
    Look, the commercial space industry is at an inflection 
point. Industry, with some Government support, but also 
leveraging immense amounts of private capital has brought new 
novel technologies into production that hold the potential to 
do everything from closing the digital divide in broadband 
Internet to making the human race truly multiplanetary.
    They are ready for--to take off, if only we will let them. 
And Mr. Gerstenmaier, you have extensive experience with space 
vehicle development and space operations.
    I want to ask you what may seem like a simplistic question, 
but it gets at something you raised in your testimony. In your 
experience, and obviously there are caveats, are flight proven 
vehicles and hardware more or less reliable than vehicles and 
hardware that aren't flight proven?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. I think there is a tremendous advantage 
of a flight proven vehicle. You see that in the reusability of 
the Falcon program. You know, we have flown 74 flights this 
year. We learn from every one of those flights.
    And that learning, if we are open and transparent and we 
see where problems are, we can fix those small problems before 
they become big problems. So sometimes it is seen as we are 
rushing to flight, but we are actually by flight testing--we 
are effectively flight testing the vehicle every time we fly, 
and we are learning, and we are developing. We are doing the 
same thing with Starship.
    Starship's test flight may to some have looked like a 
failure. It was not a failure. It was a huge learning 
experience for us. We gained more data from that flight, more 
knowledge that helps us advance than we could have through a 
thousand years of an analysis and mathematical studies and 
tests.
    Going to flight, still protecting the public, keeping the 
environment safe allows us to move at the fastest pace we can. 
So, I am a strong supporter of active flight test.
    Senator Cruz. Well, thank you. I very much agree, and I 
think that is objectively correct. But to pull on this thread, 
articles in The Washington Post and Ars Technica yesterday 
discussed how SpaceX has been ready for its second Starship 
launch for weeks but is now apparently waiting on the Fish and 
Wildlife Service, who, just to be crystal clear, they don't 
launch rockets, but Fish and Wildlife needs to finish its 
consultation next month.
    I can't help but be concerned that bureaucratic red tape at 
AST and Fish and Wildlife, and from other agencies, have 
injected themselves into the launch licensing process. All of 
these agencies have already conducted and approved an 
environmental review for the first launch of Starship.
    But since SpaceX is going to keep trying, now the Federal 
Government wants to do another entirely duplicative 
environmental review. Do you think other agencies' involvement 
is speeding up or slowing down SpaceX's ability to test, 
launch, and iterate vehicle development?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. I mean, as we are--it is a shame when our 
hardware is ready to fly, and we are not able to go fly because 
of regulations or re-review. The fact that we can get the 
launch pad repaired and get it ready to go fly, support of 
flight.
    The fact that I can get a vehicle manufactured and ready to 
go fly. We have three or four other vehicles also ready to go 
fly. The pace of our test flight should not be governed by the 
regulation.
    We need to be safe. We need to protect the environment. We 
don't dismiss those, but we need to fly at the fastest pace 
that we can do hardware development to do this active 
development process and this test flight experience that we 
described.
    Senator Cruz. Well, again, I agree with that. At AST's 
current speed, what is the earliest HLS will be ready?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. It is hard to say. We have got to, you 
know, the--we need to fly at the fastest pace. To be fair, we 
also have huge technical challenges, right. This is a large 
spacecraft we are building. You got to see it when you went 
down to Boca. It is an amazing vehicle.
    But 33 engines, the staging, all this is new technology. We 
need to test that soon, learn what is wrong, fix it, and go fly 
again. And we cannot be held up by regulation. So, it is hard 
for me to give a specific date of where we are. But the current 
pace where regulation is driving, that should not be the case.
    The burden should be put on us as a private company, put it 
on SpaceX, and let us develop at the fastest pace. We should be 
the ones that are driving the development, not being driven by 
regulatory oversight.
    Senator Cruz. And having seen firsthand what you are doing 
in South Texas, it is extraordinary and very, very impressive. 
My final question, if you were still at NASA, would this delay 
be acceptable? Would schedule delays like this be something 
that makes a NASA program successful?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. Simply, it would not be acceptable.
    Senator Cruz. Thank you.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you, Senator Cruz. Senator Peters.

                STATEMENT OF HON. GARY PETERS, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM MICHIGAN

    Senator Peters. Well, thank you, Madam Chair, and welcome 
to each of our witnesses. Happy to have you here and thanks for 
helping us better understand the opportunities as well as the 
challenges for this industry.
    I want to take my time for at least my first question and 
talk a little bit about a key aspect to a successful commercial 
space industry, and that is having a domestic supply chain that 
is vibrant and resilient. I am proud that Michigan is a top 10 
State in aerospace manufacturing.
    We have over 600 aerospace related companies, and I am very 
proud to say we are continuing to grow at a very robust rate. I 
have heard it in some of your testimony here today, and 
certainly I have heard from my former colleague Bill Nelson, 
who is now the NASA Administrator, who I think is a dream job 
for him given his passion, that we are basically in a space 
race with China.
    And I think all of you will agree. And certainly, if we are 
in that race, we need to support a robust domestic supply chain 
to win that race. And that is why I authored two bills about 
domestic aerospace supply chains that were actually signed into 
law last Congress through the CHIPS and Science Act.
    But my question for you, Mr. Maier and Mr. Joyce, and 
anybody else who would like to join in, if give me--if you 
would like to comment basically on what your companies are 
doing to ensure that you are indeed relying on a strong 
domestic supply chain for commercial space activities.
    And also, if you could address if there are any bottlenecks 
in the supply chain that we should be aware of and perhaps 
could be helpful in addressing. Mr. Joyce, if you want to 
start, and Mr. Gerstenmaier.
    Mr. Joyce. Yes. Thank you, Senator, for that question. Blue 
Origin is heavily dependent on a robust supply chain for all of 
our operations, New Shepard, New Glenn, and our in-space 
systems. We have multiple partnerships with companies around 
the United States that are supporting us, including in your 
State, Senator.
    So, the robustness of the supply chain, particularly coming 
out of the pandemic when we are all challenged to meet our 
commitments and to support our development schedules with a 
supply chain that was struggling, kind of highlighted our need 
to better engage and to go deeper with that supply chain.
    That is what we are doing today at Blue Origin, developing 
long term partnerships, long term agreements with a number of 
ours. We are also partnering with local manufacturing companies 
in all the States where we operate.
    So, it lifts the entire industry beyond the direct 
expenditures at Blue and the people that we employ, to hundreds 
or thousands of people throughout the country throughout our 
supply base.
    Senator Peters. And that supply chain, how much of that is 
domestic?
    Mr. Joyce. Almost all of it, sir. There are very few things 
that we have to go overseas for, and we are focused first on 
domestic supply.
    Senator Peters. Right. Great. Mr. Gerstenmaier.
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. And I would say that, you know, this year 
we are going to attempt to fly 100 flights. We have a very 
strong dependence upon the supply chain for a lot of parts that 
we put together and assemble into parts for our vehicles.
    As we look to next year, we want to increase that flight 
rate to about 12 flights per month, or 144 flights is our goal. 
We have already reached out now where we are offering multiyear 
contracts to suppliers to provide us hardware. We are also 
pushing some of the reliability aspects to the suppliers.
    Where we used to do inspections when the hardware came in-
house, we are now pushing that inspection back to the 
suppliers. So, they are becoming more of an active participant 
with us moving forward. So, the supply chain is critical to us 
as we move forward and try to achieve these higher flight 
rates.
    Senator Peters. So, I guess the second question--sorry, I 
didn't hear. Are there any bottlenecks out there that we--
certainly, we identified a lot of those after the pandemic. You 
have been working through those. Are there other things that 
you are concerned about that we should be aware of?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. I think for us it has been just to keep 
up with the rate of demand we have for the parts and pieces. 
And I think before we didn't order in a larger quantity as we 
are now, and we think we are--that is going to help remove some 
of that bottleneck. If we let the suppliers know what the 
anticipated demand is, they can then spool up and get ready to 
supply at the higher rates.
    Senator Peters. Right. Thank you. Mr. Joyce.
    Mr. Joyce. Yes, I don't think I would point to a single or 
even a few supply chain issues that really drive us. There 
traditionally have been things that we have scrambled and 
recovered from. But we can take that question and get you an 
answer----
    Senator Peters. Yes, I would appreciate it.
    Mr. Joyce.--with some detail.
    Senator Peters. Thank you. Anybody else have anything? If 
not, thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Thank you.
    Senator Sinema. Thank you, Senator Peters. Senator 
Hickenlooper.

             STATEMENT OF HON. JOHN HICKENLOOPER, 
                   U.S. SENATOR FROM COLORADO

    Senator Hickenlooper. Thank you, Madam Chair. And thank all 
of you for kindly giving us your time today and for all your 
work in terms of promoting space, and the incredible 
acceleration we have seen in our aerospace industry in the 
country and in the world.
    Ms. Schenewerk, I will start--I have a question for each of 
you, so if I don't--hopefully keep your answers short, and I 
will get as far as I can. As our Nation's aerospace economy 
continues to grow, the private sector--we have heard all 
through this hearing, the private sector needs clear and 
predictable rules to govern outer space activities. Colorado 
obviously also has a strong aerospace component.
    A lot of companies working on everything from new 
commercial space stations that can host research and tourism in 
space, to technologies that will remove orbital debris or 
manufacture parts in space.
    These new activities do not fall under any singular 
agency's regulatory purview. Ms. Schenewerk, what lessons 
should Congress learn from the most recent regulatory reform 
efforts in terms of developing the mission authorization 
framework?
    Ms. Schenewerk. So, first and foremost, Senator 
Hickenlooper, I will start by commending you and your staff 
because you are doing exactly what I would recommend, which is 
engaging with industry.
    So, I think that the effort to engage with industry is 
really important. And what--on some of the other topics that we 
have addressed today, like the regulation of launch, the 
oversight of nuclear thermal propulsion, for example, there is 
a need to have that deep engagement with industry in order to 
make sure that we are tailoring legislation and then the 
regulations to follow so that they can be flexible and 
appropriate to the core aspect of what we are trying to 
address, which generally speaking is public safety or a 
national security need.
    So how do we define what we are trying to address, make 
sure that we are getting to that core root concern, and then 
tailoring the legislation in a timely manner to that issue. And 
making sure that as we move forward, we are not overreaching, 
or thinking about what we are doing today, making sure we can 
pressure test against that, and then prepare for a future state 
where we can address future opportunities.
    Senator Hickenlooper. Great. Thank you. Mr. Gerstenmaier, 
this is something I have been talking about for a couple of 
years. There are over 900,000 pieces of dangerous orbital 
debris traveling faster than the speed of a bullet hurtling 
through space right now.
    It not only threatens the International Space Station, but 
it threatens our human exploration programs, commercial space 
activities, satellite constellations, go down the list of. So, 
Mr. Gerstenmaier, what are the consequences for a commercial 
in-space activities if we don't quickly mature our capabilities 
to be able to track down and remove dangerous debris objects?
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. I think it is important that we recognize 
that the debris environment is there. We design our spacecraft 
to be protective of that to some extent for the smaller 
particles.
    For the larger objects, for example, on Starlink, we have 
automatic collision avoidance in the satellites themselves, so 
they actually maneuver on their own based on data to avoid 
collisions with other aspects.
    And that is another advance, I think, that can help prevent 
generation of debris. But I think we need to recognize that 
debris environment is there.
    I think it is just naturally there in some extent, and we 
can protect for it as much as we can through spacecraft design. 
But also make sure that the systems we deploy in space limit 
the amount of debris that are generated as we deploy other 
spacecraft.
    Senator Hickenlooper. Well, certainly debris is naturally 
there, but it is growing at a--you know, it threatens 
exponential growth if we are not careful. Ms. Bandla, as in-
space activities and new spacecraft enter orbit, so does 
congestion in LEO.
    And again, I think the activity and the acceleration of 
activity is a good thing for our leadership in space. The 
Government Accountability Office and other agencies have noted 
though, these activities also increase collision risks.
    It is not just the increase in objects that are out there, 
but it is the traffic and in many cases pose potential impacts 
to astronomy. How should the U.S. balance maintaining our 
leadership in space with our obligations to making sure that we 
are maintaining a safe and operable space environment?
    Ms. Bandla. Thank you, Senator, for the question. So, 
Virgin Galactic is a purely suborbital operations, but I think 
you touch on a very important point.
    When we talk about regulations that don't hinder innovation 
and allow for companies to innovate and create new 
capabilities, that is also for creating capabilities, not just 
technologies that are, excuse the pun, out of this world, but 
creating capabilities that enhance safety and efficient 
operations.
    If I can just make a quick example in the aviation world, 
actually. Experimental aircraft were way ahead in avionics 
systems than certified aircraft and they were able to--and 
certified aviation companies were not able to adapt because 
going back and taking the time and resources for changing the 
certification did not provide them incentive and allowed them 
to say this was safe enough.
    So, regulations that are light touch, that promote 
innovation, but do not hinder say--that keep safety as 
priority, also enhance safety as an efficient operations for 
the entire industry as well.
    Senator Hickenlooper. Yes, that is something we have heard 
consistently from all of you, that this priority is--safety in 
space, and I think we are hearing that loud and clear. I yield 
back to the Chair.
    The Chair. Thank you. Senator Lujan.
    Senator Lujan. I yield to the Chair of the Committee----
    The Chair. No, no. Senator Lujan, please.

               STATEMENT OF HON. BEN RAY LUJAN, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO

    Senator Lujan. Thank you, Madam Chair. I appreciate that 
very much. Ms. Bandla, it is good to see you today, and my 
first question is directed toward you and your expertise. I 
think all of the companies here today agree that the commercial 
space industry is poised for explosive growth.
    That is clearly a consensus here in the U.S. Senate as 
well, but specifically at the spaceport in New Mexico. And so 
those of you looking to grow a little bit, come visit New 
Mexico. We have a space for you, so come on down.
    Now, the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation 
has maintained an outstanding record of protecting public 
safety according to their statutory mandate. But as the cadence 
of launches and number of applications continue to grow, the 
Office of Commercial Space Transportation, also known as AST, 
face challenges with its workforce and licensing capacity.
    So here is the question, are there ways that Congress can 
help AST keep up with the growing number of license 
applications while maintaining its excellent public safety 
record?
    Ms. Bandla. Thank you, Senator. And it has been such a 
great year. We have flown five times in 5 months from Spaceport 
America.
    The State has been an incredible partner in being able to 
hit that cadence of operations, and of course, our partnership 
with the FAA as well enabled that. Absolutely, it is natural. 
As the industry grows, we are at this inflection point where 
you are seeing a higher cadence of flight, more frequent 
flights, diverse vehicles. It is natural to also have the 
regulatory agency grow as well and be provided with the 
adequate amount of resources and expertise to keep up with that 
pace.
    And these resources will allow FAA to process licenses, 
allow companies to operate at this cadence, and especially take 
a look at their licensing process now and look at ways to make 
it more efficient and more effective.
    Not just add bodies, but look at the licensing portal, how 
we can make it electronic, how companies can track their 
licenses and status in a much more efficient way to relieve 
that stress on the actual bodies at the agency as well.
    So, there is a lot of conversations we can have on how we 
make that agency more effective in licensing, but it starts 
with giving them the adequate resources to be able to do so.
    Senator Lujan. I appreciate that, Ms. Bandla. Just as a 
reminder, it doesn't get too hot, it doesn't get too cold, and 
once you climb above the hot air balloons, you are good to go. 
And the food is pretty good, so come on down.
    Now, Ms. Schenewerk, the FAA has restricted--or was 
restricted from enforcing regulations specific to safeguarding 
the well-being of paying and nonpaying customers or occupants 
aboard commercial space launches and reentries to allow 
emerging spaceflight companies to gather experience, data, 
statistics, and other information.
    Since this learning period began, emerging commercial space 
flights have provided--have proceeded at a cautious pace. Given 
that as the commercial human spaceflight industry works up to 
full scale regulation, how can Congress help the FAA and 
commercial spaceflight industry leaders begin to work together 
to compare their initial data and statistics to share lessons 
learned, to outline a regulatory plan that addresses the safety 
of paying and not paying customers, and other occupants aboard 
commercial spaceflight?
    Ms. Schenewerk. Senator, thank you for the opportunity to 
comment on this. So, I think first and foremost is that no 
people get to space without having the launch vehicle license.
    So I really want to reiterate the points that my colleagues 
have made today about the importance of making sure that the 
FAA's launch and reentry regulations that govern launch, 
whether it is a satellite for national security, civil 
commercial space, or it is a human spaceflight participant, 
that that launch licensing regime and reentry regime needs to 
be improved and the resources that need to go into that for 
training, the implementation of better processes, all of that 
will benefit any activity that involves human spaceflight.
    So, I think first and foremost, those improvements need to 
occur. The second is an aspect that is ongoing and that is the 
engagement through the Space Advisory Rulemaking Committee, 
specifically on Part 460 right now, which addresses the 
regulations that are existing now, because despite a lot of 
thought to the contrary, the contrary is true, which is there 
are regulations addressing both the crew, so the humans that 
are on board that are involved in flying or even off the ship 
that are flying the space vessel, as well as the spaceflight 
participants.
    So, there are regulations and those are part of discussion 
with industry through an FAA advisory rulemaking committee 
today. I also want to highlight the work of COMSTAC. So, the 
Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee, which is a 
FACA that advises the FAA.
    That is an important organization, an entity that can 
provide inputs and review of FAA documents and plans. And I 
will note that recently the FAA released a document on occupant 
safety. Unfortunately, the COMSTAC wasn't able to review and 
opine on that document ahead of its release. And I think that 
the document and the engagement with the FAA and the outcome 
would have benefited from that industry engagement.
    So, we think there are a number of steps. Also, ASTMs, the 
work that is happening with standard writing with industry. 
That pace has increased as we have seen a pace of human 
spaceflight and experience increase.
    All that said, to my colleagues' prior points, very few 
flights are happening right now in terms of the numbers. We 
have the opportunity to start getting it right, to start 
establishing a plan, and that plan really calls upon true 
engagement between the experts in industry who are developing 
this diverse set of capabilities, and the folks within the 
regulatory agency that need to get smart and need to deeply 
engage with those activities.
    But first, they need to get good at doing the regulations 
that they have on the books today.
    Senator Lujan. I appreciate that. And Mr. Joyce, I have a 
question I am going to have to submit into the record because I 
have exceeded my time. But I want to commend your team over at 
Blue Origin.
    I had the honor to visit facilities in Washington State 
recently, and it is quite incredible what is been built there, 
the expertise of that team as well, but quite an impressive 
facility. So, I look forward to visiting more about that and 
getting those questions submitted. Madam Chair, I yield back.
    Mr. Joyce. Thank you, Senator.

               STATEMENT OF HON. MARIA CANTWELL, 
                  U.S. SENATOR FROM WASHINGTON

    The Chair. Thank you, Senator Lujan. And I want to thank 
Senator Sinema and Schmitt for holding this Subcommittee 
hearing and all of you for participating today. Thank you so 
much.
    I appreciate all my colleagues obviously being here and 
asking important questions. We have reached new heights, 
including the striking images of new galaxies from the James 
Webb telescope.
    The U.S. space program continues to evolve and forge ahead 
with partnerships between the public and the private sector. 
SpaceX's Falcon 9 was the first to take the NASA astronauts to 
the International Space Station, and now civilians are riding 
on the edge of space in commercial aircraft.
    So, we are very excited about all of this in the State of 
Washington. We like to say that Seattle is the Silicon Valley 
of space. That is the intersection of software and hardware and 
probably Boeing engines and other things all coming together.
    And I think we have something like $4.6 billion in economic 
activity and 13,000 jobs. So, we had the NASA Administrator out 
this past summer to talk about some of that innovation and a 
little sharper focus on workforce issues, very concerned about 
workforce needs at FAA, at NASA, in the space sector in 
general, and what we need to do to further incent or encourage 
young people and people of diversity, particularly women, to go 
into that field.
    And certainly wanted to continue the R&D, innovation, and 
collaboration, but really start thinking about what one might 
consider a high rate piece part manufacturing juxtaposed to 
where we have been thus far.
    So, how do you speed up the next level of aviation, 
aerospace construction and what do we need to do to be really 
good at that. So, those were some of the conversations we had 
in Seattle with the Administrator and a great group of 
participants from a variety of segments. And I wanted to follow 
up today first with that question about STEM and workforce.
    Very excited that NASA continues to play a very big role 
for the FAA, and we are really with the FAA safety bill that we 
passed a couple of years ago, trying to increase the technical 
expertise at the FAA in next generation technology issues.
    What do we need to do to get this right at NASA and in the 
private sector in encouraging a very, very robust space 
workforce? And just go right down the panel.
    Ms. Schenewerk. So, I think you are right to focus that 
there is a need within the FAA to make sure that we are able to 
attract and retain excellent talent there.
    So, you know, some ideas have been put forward about the 
idea of expediting hiring opportunities. I also think 
collaboration between industry and Government with regard to 
employees.
    So, we have employees that go from one agency to another 
agency, but in some instances there are opportunities, for 
example, with this former Air Force, Space Force, there were 
embeds from Government with industry, and that really does 
foster a technical interchange and understanding, and that also 
can help understand the opportunities that are in Government to 
stay in Government.
    So, you know, for example, I will commend my colleague 
here, Mr. Monteith, who left the Air Force then, and then went 
into Government service again to work with the space industry 
at the--at AST, and those kinds of exchange of impressions, 
even from Government agency to Government agency, but 
particularly where we can foster from industry movement and 
exchange there.
    The Chair. OK. We will have to go more quickly on answers 
down the panel.
    Mr. Monteith. Thank you, Chair Cantwell. I would simply put 
it in two buckets. Number one, I think we have--need to have a 
much more robust intern program to get them--the college grads 
or future college grads interested early into Government 
service and there is technical fields.
    And number two, tagging on to Ms. Schenewerk's comments, 
when I was in FAA, we had started looking at how do we move 
back and forth, not from Government agency to Government 
agency, but from Government agency to industry and back, 
because I think the entire system would be better served from 
having more technically knowledgeable and advanced employees on 
both sides.
    The Chair. OK.
    Mr. Monteith. Thank you.
    Ms. Bandla. I completely agree with both my colleagues. I 
just--talk about the underrepresented group. Look at programs 
that invest in demographics that don't--you don't typically see 
in industry, women, people of color. They don't have the same 
opportunities as others.
    So, programs that do reach that group. And it is 
interesting because I am a woman, person of color. I joined 
this industry and believed I could succeed in this industry 
because I met people from this industry doing incredible things 
and that made it real and made it a possibility.
    So, let's look at programs that reach out to those 
communities that don't have those opportunities.
    Mr. Gerstenmaier. You know, I would add that if there is an 
exciting mission, that people can get really excited about it, 
and they can see a sense of the future that is brighter, and a 
chance to really open their horizons. Space gives you that 
opportunity to think about a better future.
    And I think we can entice the young people to get excited 
about that. And then if we can also be open to new technology. 
If we can take what they have learned in gaming, what they have 
learned in computer world, and bring that into our world, we 
can expedite manufacturing. And I think we also need to be 
extremely open in the diverse areas.
    We need to be open to all ideas and not assume that anyone 
doesn't have an idea that has value and cannot be used. We need 
to be open to every idea. Look for innovation. And the same 
thing even with a regulatory environment.
    We can no longer continue the same process. We need to look 
for ways to be innovative and creative, and open the aperture 
so we can accept diverse opinions and different ways of doing 
business. We keep doing things the same way, we won't get the 
results we want. But I think that excites the young generation.
    The Chair. Thank you. Mr. Joyce.
    Mr. Joyce. Yes, I think the only thing I would add, and my 
colleagues have made some of these points, is play the long 
game, expand the workforce, right. How do you do that?
    You get more women, more people of color engaged, and you 
start that at an incredibly early age to make it more 
attractive, more appealing to those groups to join the type of 
workforce that we need in this industry and the FAA needs to 
regulate. Make the pool bigger. Start early.
    Blue is sponsoring a Club for the Future, which is a STEM 
program. It starts in preschool. It starts in elementary 
school. I think we need more of that to encourage----
    The Chair. It starts in preschool?
    Mr. Joyce. It starts in kindergarten, actually.
    The Chair. OK.
    Mr. Joyce. We have a number of--close enough. So, but yes, 
but why not, right. It is one of those things where you want 
that culture. You want these people to grow with that 
opportunity, to see people, like my colleague, Ms. Bandla here, 
doing what she is doing and be able to do that themselves. So, 
I think that is how we do it.
    The Chair. Yes. Definitely as an application of STEM 
occupation, I don't think you can get something more exciting 
or more interesting, so we would hope.
    But I do think we--as I have traveled to various facilities 
around the country, it is clear to me that there are a lot of 
technical people at our space facilities. They don't have 4 
year degrees.
    And we need to send out a big, loud message everywhere that 
these are technical jobs that are well-paying jobs, but that we 
need to--I don't know if there is this--if we are missing a 
space at the community college where we are saying this is your 
space technician program or something like that, but I feel 
like we should be doing more in this particular area.
    As I said, my region, very interested in this as we 
transfer more to large scale--I mean, more rapid pace 
manufacturing and production. And then I am going to send for 
the record, Madam Chair, this question, you know, which today's 
hearing isn't squarely on, but--well, I just want to make one 
more point about this.
    I literally believe that we have to start thinking about 
CTOs, and maybe even CTOs by sector. By that, I mean, if you 
think about it, you know, within the FAA, there may be a CTO 
specific to certification and there may be a CTO specific to 
commercial space.
    I just think the changes in technology are so rapid that 
you need somebody who is the overall guidance when it comes to 
the types of innovations we are seeing. How else do we keep a 
whole workforce at the FAA up to speed on that?
    I ran into a gentleman in my community, Edmonds, 
Washington, but that is where you will run into a lot of Boeing 
engineers just walking around on a Saturday afternoon. But he 
said, you know, we used to have chief engineers and he said 
there is never a way to fool the chief engineer. You always 
were afraid to go in front of them because you knew you were 
never going to fool them.
    And so, the point is that now we have all this 
technological change, and it is so big. And as the FAA grapples 
with still certifying commercial airplanes, but then trying to 
figure out how to certify space travel, how are we going to do 
that without some key technology leaders at key posts within 
the FAA?
    OK, so I will submit some questions for the record on that. 
But I thank the witnesses for this hearing and appreciate the 
input, particularly on the safety side, but also on how we come 
back to this issue of the certification that is expiring--the 
learning period that is expiring and what we need to do for the 
future. So, thank you.
    [The prepared statement of Senator Cantwell follows:]

Prepared Statement of Hon. Maria Cantwell, U.S. Senator from Washington
    The United States is the world leader in Space Exploration. We were 
the first to have a pilot-controlled space flight and the first to land 
a man on the moon.
    Today, we continue to reach new heights including the striking 
images of the formation of new galaxies from the James Webb telescope. 
The U.S. space program continues to evolve and forge ahead with new 
partnerships between NASA and private companies.
    Space-X's Falcon 9 rocket was the first to take NASA astronauts to 
the International Space Station as a commercial service. And now 
civilians are riding to the edge of space on commercial spacecraft.
    My home state of Washington has been called the ``Silicon Valley of 
Space.'' The space industry contributed an estimated $4.6 billion in 
economic activity to Washington communities in 2021 and supports over 
13,000 jobs.
    Notably, our regional businesses are at the forefront of commercial 
human spaceflight. These workers are helping maintain America's 
position of leadership in space applications, space science, and space 
exploration.
    However, our leadership position in the future of space operations 
is not guaranteed.
    We face significant challenges in ensuring the safety of commercial 
spaceflight participants and the public as we increase the frequency 
and complexity of human space operations.
    As we chart a path forward, we need to ensure that our safety 
regulations are based on sound data and best practices, that they 
protect the health and well-being of our crew members and spaceflight 
participants, and that they minimize the risks of orbital debris and 
collision.
    We need to establish clear roles and responsibilities for the 
Federal agencies involved in regulating various aspects of commercial 
human space activities.
    That is why we need a clear and consistent regulatory framework 
that balances the interests of all stakeholders and fosters a stable 
and predictable business environment without compromising safety.
    We also need to support the continued innovation and 
competitiveness of our commercial human space sector and the space 
industry by investing in research and development, infrastructure and 
workforce development.
    At a Space Summit I had in Seattle in July, experts from academia 
and industry discussed the urgent need to attract talented workers to 
fill today's aerospace jobs as well as the in-space jobs of the future, 
where traditional trades such as mining, construction and facility 
maintenance will need to be adapted to activities on-orbit and on the 
surface of the Moon and celestial bodies.
    Maintaining our focus on STEM education will enable the United 
States to leverage the capabilities and expertise of the private sector 
to achieve our national goals and priorities in space exploration and 
science, and ensure our economic and national security.
    To continue to be a world leader in the aerospace industry we must 
also be the leader in safety.
    I look forward to hearing from our witnesses today on your insights 
into the current state of the industry, the opportunities and 
challenges ahead, and how to ensure both safety and competitiveness.

    Senator Sinema. Well, thanks so much, Chair Cantwell. And 
with that, we have reached the end of today's hearing.
    And once again, thank you to all of our witnesses for their 
participation. The hearing record will remain open for four 
weeks until November the 15th of 2023.
    Any Senators that would like to submit questions for the 
record should do so within two weeks from now, by November 1, 
2023, and I ask that witness responses be returned to the 
Committee by November 15, 2023.
    And that concludes today's hearing.
    [Whereupon, at 3:27 p.m., the hearing was adjourned.]

                            A P P E N D I X

   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                            Caryn Schenewerk
Mission Authorization
    Current FAA regulatory authority covers launch and re-entry of 
crewed and uncrewed spacecraft but does not extend to on-orbit 
operations with or without humans. Yet the United States Government, 
under the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, must authorize and supervise these 
activities conducted by U.S. entities. I am aware that some in the 
space community believe that we should extend the FAA's licensing 
authority to cover all human space activities while providing the 
Department of Commerce with authority over all in-space mission areas 
and activities that do not involve humans.

    Question 1. What do you view as the most effective division of 
regulatory responsibility between Federal agencies?
    Answer. Instead of further division of regulatory responsibility 
between Federal agencies for space activities, it is important to 
recognize the importance of consolidating regulatory oversight, 
avoiding duplication of efforts and inefficient processes. U.S. space 
companies are increasingly engaging in innovative activities like 
satellite servicing, private space stations, in-space manufacturing, 
and lunar rovers. They are not designing their operations, nor should 
they, to align with burdensome divisions of responsibility among 
multiple agencies.
    The 2020 National Space Policy, along with industry representatives 
and congressional legislation, have proposed granting the Department of 
Commerce's Office of Space Commerce (OSC) the authority to approve 
commercial in-space and in-situ operations. This recommendation 
acknowledges the Commerce Department's existing role in regulating in-
space activities and its focus on fostering a robust U.S. space 
industry while protecting national security and complying with 
international treaty obligations. Such an approach aims to provide a 
minimally burdensome regime for authorizing in-space missions, 
emphasizing the need for significant accountability, transparency, and 
clear timeframes.
    To some degree, modeling the legislative approach on the Commercial 
Space Launch Act (CSLA) makes sense--creating a flexible statute that 
can effectively review near-term capabilities in a timely and efficient 
manner, with the flexibility to expand authorities as the industry 
develops. This strategy avoids trying to predict all future 
technologies and risks, instead opting for a flexible approach that 
ensures treaty compliance and fosters national security. That said, the 
text of the CSLA is not my suggested starting point, nor do I think the 
launch and reentry regulations are appropriate--that bill and those 
regulations are intended to protect the uninvolved public on Earth. 
They were not drafted to address in-space activities.
    An efficient and effective interagency process involving 
appropriate consultations will be key to a minimally burdensome regime 
for authorizing in-space missions in a responsible and timely manner. A 
well-designed and effectively implemented approach will be able to 
review a variety of applications for in-space activities and 
appropriately undertake an analysis of their compliance with 
international treaty obligations and U.S. interests. I encourage 
Congress to consider an approach modeled more on the commercial remote 
sensing regulations and less on the launch and reentry regulations. The 
remote sensing regulations focus on the core capabilities and 
technologies that are of concern--they are narrowly scoped and intended 
to be streamlined. Further, the Department of Commerce is experienced 
with in-space activities whereas such oversight would significantly 
expand the already stretched capabilities at the FAA, in addition to 
vastly expanding their scope beyond those activities that may impact 
the uninvolved public on Earth.
    Congress should take action to grant the Department of Commerce 
authority to review and adjudicate novel space activities in a manner 
that complies with our treaty obligations. The kinds of activities 
currently contemplated offer significant economic, space 
sustainability, civil and national security benefits, including the 
ability to remove debris, refuel or reposition satellites, conduct 
manufacturing in-orbit and even move industrial activities that are 
detrimental to Earth into space.
                                 ______
                                 
   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Kyrsten Sinema to 
                            Caryn Schenewerk
Mission Authorization
    I am excited that Blue Origin has partnered with Arizona State 
University on the Orbital Reef commercial space station project. This 
project seems to epitomize ``novel'' space activities--all the 
potential applications of a space station with attachable modules 
cannot possibly be known. The ability for private companies to train 
non-government astronauts and conduct commercial operations in low 
Earth orbit is a true game changer.
    Of course, under current law there is no defined regulator with 
such a new ``mission authorization'' authority.

    Question 1. As Congress works to clarify agency authority and 
remove uncertainty over novel space activities, what are the critical 
components to create a workable, efficient, and safe regulation?
    Answer. The U.S. government should take action to grant the 
Department of Commerce authority to review and adjudicate novel space 
activities in a manner that complies with our treaty obligations. The 
kinds of activities currently contemplated offer significant economic, 
space sustainability, civil and national security benefits, including 
the ability to remove debris, refuel or reposition satellites, conduct 
manufacturing in-orbit and even move industrial activities that are 
detrimental to Earth into space. An efficient and effective interagency 
process involving appropriate consultations will be key to a minimally 
burdensome regime for authorizing in-space missions in a responsible 
and timely manner. A well-designed and effectively implemented approach 
will be able to review a variety of applications for in-space 
activities and appropriately undertake an analysis of their compliance 
with international treaty obligations and U.S. interests. I encourage 
Congress to consider an approach modeled more on the commercial remote 
sensing regulations and less on the launch and reentry regulations. The 
remote sensing regulations focus on the core capabilities and 
technologies that are of concern--they are narrowly scoped and intended 
to be streamlined. Further, the Department of Commerce is experienced 
with in-space activities whereas such oversight would significantly 
expand the already stretched capabilities at the FAA, in addition to 
vastly expanding their scope beyond those activities that may impact 
the uninvolved public on Earth. Here are some principles to consider:

   Flexibility and Adaptability: Regulations must be flexible 
        enough to adapt to the rapid pace of technological innovation 
        in space activities. The regulatory framework should allow for 
        the incorporation of new technologies and operational models as 
        they develop, without necessitating frequent legislative 
        changes.

   Clear Definition of Agency Roles and Responsibilities: It is 
        vital to clearly define the roles and responsibilities of 
        different agencies. A streamlined approach should identify 
        which agency has authority over which aspects of space 
        activities, such as mission authorization, traffic management, 
        and safety compliance. This reduces the risk of overlapping 
        jurisdictions and conflicting regulations.

   Stakeholder Involvement: Engaging with industry 
        stakeholders, including private space companies and academic 
        institutions, is crucial. Their insights can help shape 
        regulations that are practical and conducive to innovation 
        while maintaining safety and compliance standards.

   Compliance with International Treaties: U.S. regulations 
        must be compatible with international treaties and agreements, 
        like the 1967 Outer Space Treaty. This ensures that U.S. space 
        activities are globally recognized and legally sound.

   Certification and Licensing Procedures: Develop clear and 
        efficient processes for the certification and licensing of 
        spacecraft, operators, and activities. This process should 
        balance thoroughness with efficiency to avoid unnecessary 
        delays.

   Transparency and Public Engagement: Ensuring that the 
        regulatory process is transparent and accessible to the public 
        can help build trust and understanding of space activities. 
        Public engagement also provides a platform for addressing 
        societal concerns related to space exploration.

   Ongoing Review and Update Mechanisms: The regulatory 
        framework should include mechanisms for regular review and 
        updates to keep pace with the evolving nature of space 
        activities and address unforeseen challenges.
Diversity of Activities/Regulatory
    One thing that our witnesses made clear during the hearing is the 
diversity of activities in commercial space and human spaceflight. We 
want that diversity to continue to grow and remain competitive for a 
robust space economy. An effective regulatory framework will require 
more than just avoiding duplication and closing gaps between different 
regulators.
    You have noted the rapid pace of companies developing new 
capabilities in commercial space with varying degrees of human 
involvement and risk to participants. It is going to require more than 
clearly defining the proper regulator to ensure a workable regulatory 
framework keeps up with innovation.

    Question 1. What should Congress do to achieve this workable 
regulatory flexibility that both addresses pressing issues directly and 
remains adaptable to future issues?
    Answer. AI think it is important to ensure that the regulating 
agency has the resources and structure to adapt to innovative 
technologies. That flexibility is as much a cultural aspect as it is a 
structural one. Congress can facilitate flexibility by assigning 
responsibility to an agency that has proven its ability to engage with 
industry to modernize its regulations effectively. The Department of 
Commerce Commercial Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs office has done 
that in the course of updating its regulations--it effectively utilized 
its FACA as well as tools such as advanced notices of proposed 
rulemaking to receive input on its regulations that were then reflected 
in its reform efforts.
Commercial Learning Period Ending
    We all know that commercial human spaceflight is a heavily 
regulated industry, especially concerning launch and reentry. Returning 
to the importance of the learning period, there is a significant 
uncertainty around the precise impact of the learning period ending.

    Question 1. From your perspective as a legal and regulatory expert, 
what specifically would happen should the learning period expire 
without Congressional action?
    Answer. One risk is that the FAA would delay processing licenses 
involving human spaceflight while they rushed to write and finalize 
regulations without adequate engagement with industry or adequate 
information on which to base the regulations. That could be further 
detrimental to U.S. commercial human spaceflight if the agency 
continues to lack the resources and processes to effectively adjudicate 
license applications. Another risk is a negative impact on innovation.
Insurance/Part 440 Regulations
    A vital but often overlooked aspect of commercial human spaceflight 
is insurance requirements and indemnification. Thankfully damages have 
not yet exceeded statutorily required insurance coverage for commercial 
space companies, but the current indemnification rules expire in 2025.

    Question 1. Can you explain why it is so critical for investment 
and protecting the public to modernize the FAA's approach to insurance 
and indemnification as commercial space grows?
    Answer. The public is meant to be protected by the FAA's 
significant ground and flight safety reviews ahead of granting a launch 
or reentry license. The insurance and indemnification are a back-up to 
those thorough safety reviews, which is largely why claims have never 
threatened to exceed the insurance policies that the FAA prescribes in 
launch and reentry licenses. It is also important to note that the 
FAA's insurance and indemnification regime protects the uninvolved 
public as well as U.S. Government personnel and property. It does not 
cover property owned or operated by the launch or reentry operator or 
its customers involved in the launch or reentry. The insurance 
requirements also satisfy the U.S. Government's interests in not being 
liable for claims for damages domestically or internationally in 
compliance with the Outer Space Treaty and Convention on International 
Liability for Damage Caused by Space Objects. The U.S. has one of the 
less generous launch indemnification regimes in comparison to China and 
Russia, where insurance requirements are significantly less and 
indemnification does not seemingly expire. Launch and reentry customers 
and investors are interested in an extension as an indication that the 
U.S. Government is invested in ensuring that a launch or reentry does 
not become a ``bet the company'' situation.
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      Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                            Caryn Schenewerk
Government Oversight of Commercial Space Industry
    The current commercial space industry is required to interact with 
several government agencies depending upon the specific mission they 
are performing. These agencies may include the Federal Aviation 
Administration (FAA), Space Force, National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration (NASA), U.S. Department of Commerce, and the Federal 
Communications Commission.

    Question 1. How many agencies and different sets of regulations 
does a company have to go through to launch and reenter a commercial 
spacecraft?
    Answer. In order to conduct a launch and/or a reentry, a company 
will likely need to engage with the following regulatory entities: the 
FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation for the launch and/or 
reentry license, which includes the safety and environmental review; 
the Federal Communication Commission, and possibly the National 
Telecommunications and Information Administration in the Dept. of 
Commerce for spectrum use approval; the Dept. of Commerce's Commercial 
Remote Sensing Regulatory Affairs depending on the type and use of 
remote sensing capabilities and its Bureau of Industry and Security if 
an export license is required under the Export Administration 
Regulations; the Department of State Directorate of Defense Trade 
Controls if an export license or technical agreement is needed; the 
Dept. of Transportation's Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety 
Administration for transportation approval if the launch or reentry 
vehicle is shipped with any hazardous materials on board such as 
batteries; the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives if 
the vehicles utilizes any explosive materials; and the U.S. Coast Guard 
if maritime vessels are involved in launch or recovery operations. If 
the activities occur from a NASA or U.S. Space Force facility, then the 
operator will be subject to that agency's requirements and oversight. 
The list above excludes any state or local approvals that may be 
required.

    Question 2. Do you think this system of regulatory fragmentation is 
efficient?
    Answer. No.

    Question 3. Do you think the proliferation of agencies involved in 
the licensing process is helpful for industry in building, testing, and 
validating new space launch vehicles? For example, is it helpful in 
proving the safety and reliability of a rocket, or in building a record 
of reliability and predictability of a rocket, to have testing put on 
hold for months while a non-safety-critical agency like the U.S. Fish 
and Wildlife Service conducts reviews?
    Answer. No. Such an approach risks unnecessary increased costs for 
companies and negative impacts for our national security and civil 
space interests.

    Question 4. What recommendations do you have to improve government 
efficiency in the licensing of commercial space activities? What are 
some potential improvements that could be made to create more efficient 
commercial and government interactions?
    Answer. The commercial sector benefits immensely from the use of 
software solutions for tracking deliverables, processing information, 
quality control and high-quality results. The licensing of commercial 
space activities would benefit from implementing similar solutions to 
track applications, conduct analysis and store and process significant 
amounts of data in a timely and efficient manner. License review would 
benefit from more people who are trained and familiar with the 
technologies and able to engage regularly and meaningfully with 
applicants. Today, license review is hindered by the lack of automated 
processes and the small number of people available to review and 
adjudicate the applications.

    Question 5. What do you see as the highest priority areas to be 
addressed for improvements in the government's role in commercial 
spaceflight?
    Answer. The most pressing need is for revision of FAA's launch and 
reentry regulations based on industry input as well as investment in 
the processes and tools used by the FAA's Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation (AST) to accept and review launch and reentry license 
applications. The FAA should initiate engagement with industry, 
including through an ``Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking'' and 
reverse industry days to gather direct feedback and recommendations for 
revisions to 14 CFR Part 450.

    Question 6. To your knowledge, does China or Russia have its own 
version of National Environmental Policy Act\1\, or NEPA, under which 
Chinese or Russian citizens or perhaps an obscure conservation group 
can sue the government and stop space launches or space vehicle 
development?
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    Answer. I cannot claim significant familiarity with China or 
Russia's environmental laws. It is my impression that the level of 
environmental scrutiny and the power given to the public and interest 
groups to challenge government decisions in the United States is not 
commonly paralleled in either China or Russia, especially in areas like 
space exploration that are closely tied to national security and 
technological prestige. While China and Russia have environmental laws, 
it appears as though the scope for public or organizational 
intervention, particularly in the context of space exploration and 
technology, is considerably less than what is provided under NEPA in 
the United States.

    Question 7. If a vehicle has already shown that it creates no 
severe environmental damage or significant environmental impact, do you 
think that vehicle should have to undergo a new environmental review 
for every new launch?
    Answer. No, the family of launch vehicles and operations should be 
reviewed as efficiently as possible in a singular review.

    Question 8. Mr. Gerstenmaier testified that he saw an inconsistency 
across the government where NASA is pushing SpaceX to quickly advance 
vehicle development and the FAA's licensing process is drastically 
slowing development. Do you think the government adequately harmonizes 
its national goals, like returning American astronauts to the Moon for 
example, with its regulatory systems? If not, what do you think is the 
source of that disconnect?
    Answer. The testimony from Mr. Gerstenmaier highlights a 
significant issue in the realm of U.S. space policy and regulation: the 
potential misalignment between the ambitious national goals set by 
entities like NASA and the regulatory processes overseen by bodies such 
as the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA). This dichotomy brings 
into question whether the government effectively harmonizes its 
aspirational objectives, such as returning American astronauts to the 
Moon, with the practical realities of its regulatory frameworks. The 
U.S. has also indicated its interest in increasingly utilizing 
commercial services to support its national security goals. The risk to 
our national goals should create even more urgency to ensure that we 
have streamlined licensing processes in place that are well-resources, 
efficient and effective in facilitating safety and a thriving, diverse 
industry.

    Question 9. If AST were to establish a ``fast lane'' regulatory 
review process for systems directly tied to U.S. capability--like 
Artemis or national security capability, do you believe this would help 
ensure a holistic Government approach and ensure continued U.S. 
leadership in space?
    Answer. In my estimation, there are currently few, if any, FAA 
licensees or license applicants that are not working to provide the 
U.S. with capabilities that offer national security or civil space 
benefits. The best solution is an FAA AST that can adjudicate license 
applications in a timely and efficient manner and, most importantly, in 
a manner that allows for review of multiple applications and operations 
in parallel. The current review process appears to operate in series, 
which is an untenable situation for U.S. national security, civil and 
commercial space interests.

    Question 10. Mr. Gerstenmaier also discussed the need to at least 
double the resources of FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation 
(AST) to meet the growing workload. What are your views on requiring 
launch providers to `pay into the system,' similar to the way in which 
the Airport and Airway Trust Fund works, to help pay for this growth?
    Answer. The significant challenges faced by FAA AST must be 
addressed. This is an idea that warrants thorough discussion among 
established and emerging launch providers as well as a study of the 
Airport and Airway Trust Fund history. Such a review could be a good 
topic for FAA's Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee 
(COMSTAC) and for the Congressional Research Service with regard to the 
Trust Fund's history.

    Question 11. What specific areas at AST and the Office of Space 
Commerce do you think need to be addressed to improve government's role 
in commercial spaceflight?
    Answer. The following are suggestions for FAA AST:

   Resource Enhancement: AST requires a significant increase in 
        resources, including funding and personnel, to handle the 
        growing number of commercial space activities. This would 
        enable the implementation of software and automation solutions 
        to support more timely processing of licenses and permits.

   Regulatory Streamlining: Simplifying and streamlining Part 
        450 is necessary. This should be prioritized and undertaken 
        with significant industry engagement.

   Risk Management and Safety Standards: Continuously updating 
        safety standards and risk management strategies is essential to 
        keep pace with new technologies and mission types. This 
        involves adopting a balanced approach that ensures safety 
        without stifling innovation.

   Industry Collaboration and Stakeholder Engagement: Engaging 
        more actively with industry stakeholders can help AST 
        understand and address the industry's needs and challenges, 
        leading to more informed and effective regulations.

   Technological Expertise: Investing in the technological 
        expertise of AST personnel is crucial. This includes continuous 
        training and development to ensure that the staff is equipped 
        to assess and understand the latest advancements in space 
        technology.

    The Office of Space Commerce should be given oversight of novel 
space activities and the authorities and resources to engage with 
industry as it develops regulations that are effective and efficient in 
their substance and implementation.

    Question 12. What should NASA's role be, if any, in the future 
regulation of commercial human spaceflight?
    Answer. NASA is poised to continue to be a valuable customer for 
commercial human spaceflight and, as such, will play a vital role in 
shaping some of those capabilities. NASA also has expertise that will 
be beneficial in formal industry efforts to develop and adopt human 
spaceflight standards.
Commercial Manned Spaceflight Moratorium and Regulation
    Question 1. At the October 18th hearing, Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith 
of National Aerospace Solutions who was also the last head of FAA AST, 
suggested a two-phase approach to the regulation of human spaceflight. 
Phase 1 would be setting a date before which FAA may not publish new 
regulations but is allowed to start working on them during that period, 
and phase 2 would be setting an effective date for those regulations 
that would occur years after the regulations are published. This gap 
between the publishing of final regulations and their becoming 
effective would provide a fail-safe, allowing Congress to intervene in 
case industry was still not mature enough for the new regulations. In 
his view, a forcing function is necessary to keep industry and 
regulators working toward consensus rules. What is your view on this 
two-phase approach?
    Answer. Whether it is a two-phased approach or a single step, the 
most important aspect is industry engagement and active efforts by the 
FAA to not over-reach. It is vital that lessons learned from Part 450 
be integrated into any regulatory process at FAA AST--the industry 
should be fully engaged and their input should be significantly 
reflected in the outcome, not dismissed. The agency must also be fully 
prepared to engage in regulating the activity. With Part 450, the rule 
was adopted and FAA AST's team was not prepared nor trained to apply 
those rules. When the agency regulates, it must have adequate resources 
and processes to effectively adjudicate license applications. The FAA 
AST should be engaging with industry, but as long as we still have so 
few human spaceflights, the ability to regulate as can be done today, 
and such unique designs, the moratorium should stay in place.

    Question 2. In the long term, do you think FAA is the best home for 
the regulation of commercial spaceflight, or should Congress consider 
standing up a new, independent entity?
    Answer. Instead of further division of regulatory responsibility 
between Federal agencies for space activities, it is important to 
recognize the importance of consolidating regulatory oversight, 
avoiding duplication of efforts and inefficient processes. U.S. space 
companies are increasingly engaging in innovative activities like 
satellite servicing, private space stations, in-space manufacturing, 
and lunar rovers. They are not designing their operations, nor should 
they, to align with burdensome divisions of responsibility among 
multiple agencies.
    The 2020 National Space Policy, along with industry representatives 
and congressional legislation, have proposed granting the Department of 
Commerce's Office of Space Commerce (OSC) the authority to approve 
commercial in-space and in-situ operations. This recommendation 
acknowledges the Commerce Department's existing role in regulating in-
space activities and its focus on fostering a robust U.S. space 
industry while protecting national security and complying with 
international treaty obligations. Such an approach aims to provide a 
minimally burdensome regime for authorizing in-space missions, 
emphasizing the need for significant accountability, transparency, and 
clear timeframes.
    To some degree, modeling the legislative approach on the Commercial 
Space Launch Act (CSLA) makes sense--creating a flexible statute that 
can effectively review near-term capabilities in a timely and efficient 
manner, with the flexibility to expand authorities as the industry 
develops. This strategy avoids trying to predict all future 
technologies and risks, instead opting for a flexible approach that 
ensures treaty compliance and fosters national security. That said, the 
text of the CSLA is not my suggested starting point, nor do I think the 
launch and reentry regulations are appropriate--that bill and those 
regulations are intended to protect the uninvolved public on Earth. 
They were not drafted to address in-space activities.
    An efficient and effective interagency process involving 
appropriate consultations will be key to a minimally burdensome regime 
for authorizing in-space missions in a responsible and timely manner. A 
well-designed and effectively implemented approach will be able to 
review a variety of applications for in-space activities and 
appropriately undertake an analysis of their compliance with 
international treaty obligations and U.S. interests. I encourage 
Congress to consider an approach modeled more on the commercial remote 
sensing regulations and less on the launch and reentry regulations. The 
remote sensing regulations focus on the core capabilities and 
technologies that are of concern--they are narrowly scoped and intended 
to be streamlined. Further, the Department of Commerce is experienced 
with in-space activities whereas such oversight would significantly 
expand the already stretched capabilities at the FAA, in addition to 
vastly expanding their scope beyond those activities that may impact 
the uninvolved public on Earth.
    Congress should take action to grant the Department of Commerce 
authority to review and adjudicate novel space activities in a manner 
that complies with our treaty obligations. The kinds of activities 
currently contemplated offer significant economic, space 
sustainability, civil and national security benefits, including the 
ability to remove debris, refuel or reposition satellites, conduct 
manufacturing in-orbit and even move industrial activities that are 
detrimental to Earth into space.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. J. D. Vance to 
                            Caryn Schenewerk
Proprietary Data and Intellectual Property
    Reluctance to share data has been flagged in several reports as a 
barrier to standards development and the implementation of voluntary 
safety systems. These reports point to a variety of solutions, 
including statutory data protection, programs to facilitate sharing 
proprietary data, and memorandums of understanding (MOUs) between the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and individual companies.
    I understand this reluctance to share data. These reports indicate 
that companies are concerned that any shared data could be traced back 
to the company due to the small number of providers and the significant 
differences between their vehicles. Companies view the protection of 
their data as important for their commercial competitiveness.

    Question 1. While commercial companies need to protect their 
proprietary information, data-sharing between commercial providers will 
be vital for standards development, collaborative research, and 
voluntary safety systems. What protections could be implemented to 
facilitate data-sharing between companies while protecting proprietary 
data and intellectual property? Would legislation best address this 
issue, or could agency-led or industry-led measures be effective?
    Answer. Agency and industry-led efforts can be effective. That 
said, the number of entities is still very small (single digits) and 
the number of operations also small (barely double-digits). The 
industry is also populated with unique, one-of-a-kind designs, so it's 
worth considering the fact that the industry has not achieved a level 
of maturity that would facilitate rapid standard development.

    Question 2. How can Congress and the FAA encourage collaboration 
between industry while protecting proprietary data?
Ohio's Space Capabilities
    Ohio is the birthplace of aviation and has a rich tradition of 
excellence in aerospace. It started with the Wright Brothers, continued 
with Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and lives on today with so many 
people, companies, and universities on the cutting-edge of innovation.
    Following in this tradition, Ohio is home to world-class 
spaceflight testing capabilities not available anywhere else on the 
globe. But I hear they are often underutilized by commercial partners 
or even non-NASA Federal partners.

    Question 1. NASA/Glenn Research Center in Cleveland has the 
Agency's lead assignment for future space communication. How best 
should NASA/Glenn work with the rest of the Federal Government as part 
of its leadership role in this area, to help fortify commercial space-
flight in areas from spectrum licensing to technology advancement, and 
does NASA/Glenn have the resources it needs to accomplish this role?
    Answer. Ohio's rich heritage in aerospace and its current standing 
as a hub for spaceflight innovation position it well to contribute 
significantly to the future of commercial spaceflight. NASA's Glenn 
Research Center in Cleveland, with its lead assignment in space 
communication, plays a crucial role in this landscape. For NASA/Glenn 
to effectively lead in space communication and support commercial 
spaceflight, a multifaceted approach involving Federal collaborations, 
technology partnerships, resource optimization, educational 
initiatives, and innovation promotion is essential. By leveraging its 
unique capabilities and fostering strong partnerships both within the 
Federal government and with commercial entities, NASA/Glenn can 
significantly contribute to advancing space communication technologies 
and supporting the broader commercial spaceflight sector. Additionally, 
ensuring that NASA/Glenn is adequately resourced will be pivotal in 
enabling it to fulfill this leadership role effectively. Specifically, 
NASA centers can support commercial partners in the following ways:

   Technology Transfer and Commercial Partnerships: NASA/Glenn 
        can offer its advanced communication technologies to commercial 
        space entities through technology transfer agreements or 
        partnerships. This can accelerate technological advancements in 
        the commercial sector. To facilitate these agreements, the 
        Center should consider flexibility in its terms and conditions 
        to meet the needs of diverse space companies from start-up to 
        established.

   Collaborative Research and Development: Engaging in joint 
        R&D projects with commercial partners can foster innovation in 
        space communication technologies. This could include developing 
        new communication systems for deep space exploration, satellite 
        communications, and more.

    Question 2. On October 16, UC Berkeley announced participation in a 
new $2B space research park at NASA/Ames in California. In my home 
State of Ohio, Voyager/Airbus have announced the establishment of the 
George Washington Carver Science Park on the campus of The Ohio State 
University, as an integral part of their efforts on Starlab, one of 
NASA's commercial low-Earth orbit destination replacements for the ISS 
after 2030. What key roles do you see Universities--especially public 
Universities--playing, in order to maximize the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight in low-Earth orbit and beyond?
    Answer. The involvement of universities, particularly public 
universities, is pivotal in maximizing the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight, both in low-Earth orbit and beyond. Their roles 
span from research and development to workforce training and policy 
development, forming a cornerstone in the advancement of space 
exploration and technology. Here are some key roles that universities 
can play:

   Research and Development

     Cutting-edge Research: Universities are often at the 
            forefront of scientific research and technological 
            innovation. They can conduct groundbreaking research in 
            areas crucial for space exploration, such as propulsion 
            systems, life support technologies, materials science, and 
            space communication.

     Collaborative Projects: Universities can collaborate 
            with commercial space companies and government agencies 
            like NASA on specific research projects, leveraging their 
            expertise and facilities to advance space technologies.

   Workforce Development and Training

     Education and Training: Preparing a skilled workforce 
            is crucial for the space industry. Universities can offer 
            specialized programs in aerospace engineering, space 
            sciences, and related fields to train the next generation 
            of space professionals.

     Internships and Co-ops: Partnership with commercial 
            space companies for internships and cooperative education 
            programs can provide students with hands-on experience, 
            making them valuable assets to the industry upon 
            graduation.

   Technology Transfer and Commercialization

     From Lab to Industry: Universities can play a key role 
            in technology transfer, where research innovations are 
            developed into commercial products or technologies for 
            space applications.

     Startup Incubation: Many universities have incubators 
            and accelerators that can support startups focused on space 
            technologies, providing them with resources, mentorship, 
            and networking opportunities.

   Policy Development and Advocacy

     Policy Research and Analysis: Universities can 
            contribute to space policy development through research and 
            analysis, helping to shape policies that are conducive to 
            the growth of commercial spaceflight.

     Public Advocacy: As respected academic institutions, 
            universities can advocate for policies and funding that 
            support the space sector, both at the state and Federal 
            levels.

   Public Engagement and Outreach

     Educating the Public: Universities can engage in 
            outreach activities to educate the public about space 
            exploration and commercial space endeavors, fostering 
            public interest and support.

     Hosting Conferences and Forums: Universities can host 
            conferences, workshops, and forums that bring together 
            industry, government, and academic experts to discuss and 
            strategize on the future of space exploration.

   International Collaboration

     Global Partnerships: Universities often have strong 
            international connections. They can facilitate global 
            research partnerships and student exchanges, contributing 
            to international collaboration in space exploration.
On-Orbit Authority
    Question 1. To what extent does the lack of regulatory authority 
for on-orbit activities affect the commercial human spaceflight 
industry, if at all?
    Answer. The human spaceflight activities that have occurred to date 
have not been negatively impacted.

    Question 2. As the industry prepares for commercial space stations, 
should a Federal agency be given on-orbit authority that addresses 
commercial human spaceflight? If so, which agency should be tasked with 
this authority and why?
    Answer. Yes, there is interest in clarifying oversight of future 
commercial human destinations in Earth's orbit. Those activities are 
considered in the discussion of a ``mission authorization'' regulatory 
regime with wide-spread support for oversight by the Department of 
Commerce (DOC). Proposals for legislation that have been circulated 
would continue to have the FAA responsible for launch and reentry and 
grant the DOC authority over the on-orbit activities. Progress on 
mission authorization legislation would provide industry-desired 
certainty regarding the agency with oversight and the opportunity to 
engage meaningfully in the development of appropriate and efficient 
regulations.

    Question 3. In discussions regarding on-orbit authority or mission 
authorization, many disagree on whether Commerce or FAA should have 
this authority. How does commercial human spaceflight factor into these 
discussions?
    Answer. There is wide-spread support for granting the Department of 
Commerce (DOC) oversight of on-orbit or mission authorization for all 
activities beyond those regulated by the FAA (launch and reentry) and 
FCC (telecommunications). The DOC should have clear authority to review 
and grant approvals for a diverse set of activities, including those 
that involve human spaceflight. Any legislation granting the authority 
should include clear timeframes and direction to engage meaningfully 
with industry to develop appropriate and efficient regulations. Such 
authorities would allow DOC to lead an inter-agency process and benefit 
from expertise across various agencies related to the regulated 
activity.
Miscellaneous
    Question 1. The U.S. government is focused on ensuring our 
obligations under the Outer Space Treaty for mission authorization and 
supervision under Article 6 are met. With the increase of commercial 
activities in space, do you believe that this authority should be 
vested in one Federal agency?
    Answer. That would be idea. Instead of further division of 
regulatory responsibility between Federal agencies for space 
activities, it is important to recognize the importance of 
consolidating regulatory oversight, avoiding duplication of efforts and 
inefficient processes. U.S. space companies are increasingly engaging 
in innovative activities like satellite servicing, private space 
stations, in-space manufacturing, and lunar rovers. They are not 
designing their operations, nor should they, to align with burdensome 
divisions of responsibility among multiple agencies.
    The 2020 National Space Policy, along with industry representatives 
and congressional legislation, have proposed granting the Department of 
Commerce's Office of Space Commerce (OSC) the authority to approve 
commercial in-space and in-situ operations consistent with the United 
States' obligation under Article 6 of the Outer Space Treaty. This 
recommendation acknowledges the Commerce Department's existing role in 
regulating in-space activities and its focus on fostering a robust U.S. 
space industry while protecting national security and complying with 
international treaty obligations. Such an approach aims to provide a 
minimally burdensome regime for authorizing in-space missions, 
emphasizing the need for significant accountability, transparency, and 
clear timeframes.

    Question 2. As humans look to operate on orbit and beyond can you 
speak to lessons learned from commercial launch and how the U.S. 
government should approach working with commercial companies operating 
human activities in space moving forward?
    Answer. It is vital that lessons learned from the FAA AST's 
adoption of Part 450 be integrated into any regulatory process at FAA 
AST or elsewhere--the industry should be fully engaged and their input 
should be significantly reflected in the outcome, not dismissed. The 
agency must also be fully prepared to engage in regulating the 
activity. With Part 450, the rule was adopted and FAA AST's team was 
not prepared nor trained to apply those rules.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                             Wayne Monteith
Safety Regulatory Framework for In-Space Human Activities
    Since 2000, we've seen a constant human presence on-orbit, with 
astronauts living and working in the International Space Station. In 
2021, we saw the first sub-orbital commercial flights from Virgin 
Galactic and Blue Origin, and the first successful orbital commercial 
flight with SpaceX's Inspiration4. The space economy is growing rapidly 
and the landscape for commercial human spaceflight will continue to 
evolve. Soon we will see commercial destinations in Low Earth Orbit, 
on-orbit manufacturing and R&D, and potential human habitation on the 
Moon and Mars.

    Question 1. Is it possible to develop a human spaceflight safety 
framework that would be applicable to all types of vehicles and all 
operational regimes, or will specific safety approaches and subsequent 
regulation need to be tailored to specific missions?
    Answer. I do not believe a single safety framework for all space 
vehicle types and orbital regimes is appropriate or possible at this 
time. An attempt to do so would likely disadvantage some sector of the 
industry. There are however aspects of the safety equation that can be 
the same or similar across vehicles, such as requiring a sufficient 
breathable atmosphere with an appropriate safety margin without 
mandating the delivery system. Subsequent regulations are likely best 
suited to vehicle types, or classes, and mission types rather than 
being overly broad. For example, the regulatory requirements may be 
vastly different for a low earth orbit (LEO) mission vice a lunar 
mission.
Mission Authorization
    Current FAA regulatory authority covers launch and re-entry of 
crewed and uncrewed spacecraft but does not extend to on-orbit 
operations with or without humans. Yet the United States Government, 
under the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, must authorize and supervise these 
activities conducted by U.S. entities. I am aware that some in the 
space community believe that we should extend the FAA's licensing 
authority to cover all human space activities while providing the 
Department of Commerce with authority over all in-space mission areas 
and activities that do not involve humans.

    Question 1. What do you view as the most effective division of 
regulatory responsibility between Federal agencies?
    Answer. Fewer regulatory responsibility overlaps are critical, 
which means fewer regulatory agencies vying for scope within the space 
regime. In the current regulatory construct AST is responsible during 
launch and reentry activities, but between those points a literal and 
figurative void exists. Ideally, DOT would be responsible for all space 
transportation activities and another agency, such as DOC, would be 
responsible for all other space activities (i.e., on-orbit servicing, 
asteroid mining, mission authorization, etc.). With that said I believe 
in the future a single agency should be responsible for all human 
related space activities for (theoretically) a consistent, predictable, 
and safer regulatory approach. If a single agency is given authority 
for all phases of human spaceflight activities then ideally seams are 
mitigated which should lead to a safer approach and in an ideal 
regulatory environment, a streamlined licensing process. By default 
this agency would be DOT.
FAA's Needs for Commercial Regulation
    It is clear that the Federal government must prepare to regulate 
the commercial human spaceflight industry. This means ensuring our 
agencies are well staffed, knowledgeable, and ready to regulate. We 
have heard from stakeholders that the FAA does not have personnel or at 
least not enough personnel with the right skill sets to begin 
regulating commercial human spaceflight occupant safety on January 1, 
2024.

    Question 1. Would adding a key technology leader, such as a Chief 
Technical Officer or ``CTO'' at the FAA specific to commercial 
spaceflight be an effective way to keep its workforce up to speed on 
the rapid technology changes in industry?
    Answer. I do not see a scenario where the FAA would be prepared to 
fully regulate commercial human spaceflight activities within the next 
3-5 years, regardless of number/skills of personnel, because developing 
a good regulation will take time to be done right. When I was leading 
AST we had the equivalent of a Chief Engineer and while knowledgeable 
and hard working a single individual would find it challenging to make 
a meaningful difference. I do not believe adding a CTO would be 
sufficient to change the risk averse culture of FAA AST which is a more 
immediate impediment.

    Question 2. Given your experience with FAA/AST from the Federal 
side, what do you believe the FAA needs to do ensure the safe 
transportation of humans into, through, and back from space?
    Answer. FAA will need to embrace the expertise of the industry they 
regulate and will need to work closely with industry to develop a 
minimally sufficient regulatory construct, or ``light touch,'' to 
foster public safety while not disadvantaging U.S. industry. They will 
also need sufficient time to develop the new regulation and should be 
mandated to work closely with industry and the interagency partners. 
They would also benefit from a rewrite of the outdated Administrative 
Procedures Act which can and has been interpreted as precluding full 
and open dialogue with industry.
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   Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Kyrsten Sinema to 
                             Wayne Monteith
Commercial Learning Period Ending
    We all know that commercial human spaceflight is a heavily 
regulated industry, especially concerning launch and reentry. Regarding 
the importance of the learning period, there is a significant 
uncertainty around the precise impact of the learning period ending.

    Question. From your perspective as a regulatory expert and previous 
experience as the lead of the Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation, what specifically would happen should the learning 
period expire without Congressional action?
    Answer. I believe the FAA would be put into a position to rush to 
develop a regulatory construct for commercial human spaceflight that 
would likely be overly burdensome, without significantly adding to 
safety. While commercial space transportation is highly regulated, 
human spaceflight is not. Part 450 was envisioned to provide a much 
wider spectrum of technologies and approaches to meet regulatory safety 
requirements, but it does not appear FAA has embraced the opportunity 
to meaningfully streamline. I believe this would be consistent 
regardless of how long the learning period is extended as long as there 
is no firm sunset date. In other words, industry appears to count on 
the period being extended while AST notionally works to be ready to 
regulate. In this situation very little actually gets done to prepare 
for a new regulation. This is why I've suggested instead of 
establishing an extension to the learning period Congress should 
consider establishing a date in which a regulation cannot be published 
before. This forces industry and the regulator to do the hard work to 
develop a new regulation and gives Congress the ability to decide when 
the regulation should become effective. As I recall during testimony, 
Virgin Galactic suggested extending the learning period another seven 
years. If you extend for that time and then begin writing a new 
regulation you are likely eleven to twelve years out from being ready 
to regulate. If you establish a no earlier than date you could 
theoretically be ready by the end of the initial seven years and at 
that point Congress will decide whether it is the appropriate time for 
DOT to issue the regulation.
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  Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to 
                             Wayne Monteith
Mission Authorization Framework
    During the hearing you stated, ``Based largely on my experience 
with Part 450, my concern remains a very public catastrophic event may 
drive a rush to regulate, and potentially over-regulate, this still 
nascent part of the industry.'' You also stated continued growth of 
commercial human spaceflight will be ``negatively impacted by either a 
catastrophic event or an overly burdensome regulatory construct.''

    Question. What are examples of targeted regulations that would be 
constructive in maintaining human safety in space travel to prevent 
catastrophe?
    Answer. My experience with Part 450 taught me that no matter how 
grand the intentions, either insufficient time to develop a new 
regulation or insufficient collaboration with industry leads to a less 
than ideal outcome. Part 450 was envisioned to streamline the 
regulatory landscape, instead it mostly appears to have created new 
barriers to entry for U.S. companies or ideas, without adding to public 
safety. Even though a herculean effort went into developing Part 450, I 
believe the shortened timeline led to flaws in the regulation and the 
lack of collaboration with industry further entrenched an ``us vs 
them'' mentality with the regulator. Should this same accelerated 
approach be followed for human spaceflight I would expect an even more 
draconian approach, again, without a significant increase in safety. If 
a targeted approach is taken, I would recommend starting with vehicle 
classes (i.e., winged or traditional rocket) and potentially 
environmental regimes (i.e., sub-orbital, orbital, cislunar, etc.).
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      Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                             Wayne Monteith
Regulatory Reform
    Question 1. You provide a unique perspective given your extensive 
experience with space launch as the Commander of the 45th Space Wing 
and Director of the Eastern Range, and most recently as the head of the 
Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Office of Commercial Space 
Transportation (AST). Do you believe the Part 450 regulations you 
helped write at AST are working as intended?
    Answer. I do not believe the Part 450 regulation is working as 
intended. The primary purpose of Part 450 was to combine and streamline 
existing regulations while enhancing safety. It is not obvious that the 
licensing process has been streamlined, nor that it is faster or less 
burdensome on U.S. industry, nor that safety has actually been 
enhanced. I believe it is not just the regulation itself that has some 
latent issues, but also the way it is being interpreted by FAA.

    Question 2. Given your experience serving in the Air Force and 
later Space Force, rising to the rank of Brigadier General before 
retiring and going to AST, do you agree rapid and reliable access to 
space is a critical national security concern?
    Answer. I do agree. It is an absolute imperative to national 
security that the United States have robust, responsive, reliable 
access to space and a successful commercial space industry in general. 
One that is not only allowed but is rewarded for innovation and rapid 
technology development rather than the opposite. The regulator cannot 
guarantee safety or eliminate risk, no matter how hard they work, but 
left unchecked they can stifle innovation and disadvantage U.S. 
industry and national security.

    Question 3. In your written testimony, you expressed your concern 
that movement away from the concept of a regulatory ``one stop shop'' 
would impede U.S. leadership in space. What do you think has led to the 
increase in regulatory fragmentation we've seen the last few years and 
what can Congress do to reverse this trend?
    Answer. While I believe commercial space transportation safety is a 
responsibility of the Department of Transportation, I've seen firsthand 
where having the Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) reside 
in the FAA has led to an overly risk averse regulatory approach that 
does not add additional safety to a perfect public safety record and 
may degrade safety. Unfortunately, commercial space transportation 
licensing responsibility residing within the FAA has proven to be 
problematic. As industry, Congress and the previous Administration 
noted prior to the release of SPD-3 FAA AST could not keep up with 
their existing licensing workload and therefore would likely fail at 
implementing a manageable space traffic management construct. So, 
rather than address the problem with either FAA or AST, the safety 
responsibility was given to DOC's Office of Space Commerce, further 
moving away from the ``one-stop-shop'' construct. We still have failed 
to solve the original problem statement that led to the creation of 
AST.
    I would recommend the following for consideration:

   not adding any additional Federal agencies to oversee 
        commercial space transportation

   evaluating the current utilization of staff within AST and 
        then only if necessary, adding limited additional staff for the 
        express purpose of increasing licensing capacity and speed

   move AST back to DOT and report directly to the Secretary 
        for accountability

   designate AST as the responsible agency for space 
        transportation operations and all commercial human spaceflight 
        activities

   move U.S. spaceport licensing responsibility and support to 
        DOC

   make DOC the lead Federal agency for mission authorization, 
        and for all activities other than space transportation and 
        human spaceflight

   ensure DOS are DOC are the lead agencies for U.S. 
        international space efforts, this would enable AST to focus on 
        licensing and supporting the domestic commercial space 
        transportation industry and be in a support role as resources 
        permit

    Question 4. Do you think the proliferation of agencies involved in 
the licensing process is helpful for industry in building, testing, and 
validating new space launch vehicles? For example, is it helpful in 
proving the safety and reliability of a rocket, or in building a record 
of reliability and predictability of a rocket, to have testing put on 
hold for months while a non-safety-critical agency like the U.S. Fish 
and Wildlife Service conducts reviews?
    Answer. I do not believe having so many agencies involved in the 
licensing process increases safety, but it does negatively impacts both 
a robust U.S. space transportation industry and national security. The 
recent Starship anomaly could not have been much more ``spectacular,'' 
but even in this catastrophic event no member of the public was injured 
or killed and I have not seen evidence that a single animal was killed 
either. If Federal agencies are left unchecked U.S. industry will have 
little choice but to look to overseas locations to launch new 
innovative, disruptive technologies thus ceding U.S. global leadership. 
The environment is important, but there needs to be a balance based on 
national priorities.

    Question 5. In your experience at AST, to what extent did 
regulators give any consideration to whether an activity was a national 
priority or part of the development of capabilities for a program of 
national significance? That is, did FAA AST ever use any discretion to 
speed up the licensing or regulating of nationally important 
capabilities or infrastructure?
    Answer. When I served as the head of AST we did prioritize both 
national security and NASA licensing and mission operations when 
appropriate. But, I believe this occurred largely because of my 
previous experience in launch and space operations in the DoD.

    a. Could AST even exercise that kind of discretion if it wanted to?
    Answer. Yes, workload management and priorities are a call that the 
Associate Administrator for Commercial Space Transportation can make.

    Question 6. In your experience, does AST currently consider the 
level of international competition from our adversaries such as China 
and Russia, or the need to maintain U.S. global leadership in space 
launch capabilities and advanced spaceflight hardware as part of its 
approach to licensing? If not, do you think they should be as part of 
either an obligation to protect national security or statutory duty to 
``encourage, facilitate, and promote commercial space launches and 
reentries by the private sector?''
    Answer. I do not have current insight into the priorities of the 
Office of Commercial Space Transportation, but my experience suggests 
this approach would be unlikely. I do believe, consistent with public 
safety, U.S. global leadership in this sector is imperative for 
national security and this should be included in FAA AST's mandate to 
help prioritize their licensing efforts.

    Question 7. Do you think AST correctly balances its safety mandate 
with fostering innovation, or is AST too risk averse when it comes to 
the development of new and novel space transportation vehicles?
    Answer. I do not believe AST correctly balances its safety mandate 
with fostering innovation. My experience within AST was that safety was 
paramount to all licensing activities with no consideration given to 
the research and development (R&D) type activities. Where I believe the 
agency fails is that it is too risk averse and attempts to eliminate 
almost all safety risk at the expense of speed and fostering 
innovation. The culture of AST is highly influenced by the appropriate 
safety culture of the mature aviation industry with little 
acknowledgement of the still nascent stage of development of the 
commercial space industry. As a reminder, there has never been a death 
or injury to a member of the uninvolved public as a result of a 
commercial space mishap. To many this would suggest the record suggests 
the current system of safety standards is correct, I believe a more 
relaxed safety standard could have achieved the same results.

    Question 8. My belief is vehicles that have launched hundreds of 
times encounter a smoother and faster time obtaining a launch license 
than a brand new vehicle or one which has only launched a few times. Do 
you believe the proven reliability of a vehicle should factor into the 
speed of the licensing process?
    Answer. I believe that a vehicle's proven reliability should 
absolutely factor into an expedited licensing process, just as the 
proven success of a company in this sector should factor into the 
licensing process for their new vehicles. Instead, I encountered many 
instances where the regulators considered companies that iterated 
quickly and safely following an anomaly and then improved their 
vehicles to be reckless and in need of additional oversight rather than 
less.

    Question 9. In the current regulatory environment, with all the red 
tape mandates such as the National Environmental Policy Act, do you 
think the United States could stand up a space program and put a man on 
the moon in under a decade if we were starting from scratch? What about 
Mars?
    Answer. Given the historically overly burdensome behavior of some 
Federal agencies I would see no path forward to successfully put an 
American on the moon or Mars in a timely manner if we started from 
scratch. It will be difficult enough to put an American on Mars within 
this decade given the heavy hand of the regulators.
Moratorium on Manned Spaceflight Regulation
    Question 1. In the long term, do you think FAA is the best home for 
the regulation of commercial spaceflight?
    Answer. I do not believe FAA is the right ``home'' for regulating 
commercial spaceflight. At a minimum, Congress should consider moving 
FAA AST back to DOT reporting directly to the Secretary. Additionally, 
if the question is specifically referencing commercial human 
spaceflight I believe the responsibility for all operations should 
reside with AST so as not to further complicate the licensing process.

    a. Should Congress consider moving AST out of FAA or even standing 
up a new, independent entity?
    Answer. See previous response. Additionally, much like the DoD's 
Space Force, I believe there is merit in exploring a new independent 
entity for all licensing, supporting, and regulating of commercial 
space activities . . . truly enabling a ``one-stop-shop'' for U.S. 
industry with an eye towards streamlined, expeditious licensing that 
accepts the idea of ``reasonable risk,'' enables and encourages 
innovation, fosters a robust U.S. industrial base to enhance national 
security and ensures continued U.S. global leadership in this sector.

    Question 2. If AST were to establish a ``fast lane'' regulatory 
review process for systems directly tied to U.S. capability, like 
Artemis or national security capability, do you believe this would help 
secure a holistic government approach and ensure continued U.S. global 
leadership in space?
    Answer. I do, but only if Congress is clear on its expectations for 
the priorities, processes, and timelines within AST and provides 
oversight to ensure its direction is being effectively implemented.

    Question 3. Are there any historical or international precedents 
for aligning government regulations and agency activities with the 
schedules of large-scale national space programs, and if so, what 
lessons can be drawn from these examples?
    Answer. I believe the most relevant example is the original human 
space program. The goal from government was clear and there was a 
national imperative to move ahead of the Soviet Union. I also believe 
we face the same challenge today, but primarily from the Chinese 
government. From my perspective, this means we need to establish the 
national imperative to be the global leader and then hold all 
government agencies accountable to program success. If that means being 
the first to safely establish a human presence on the Moon and Mars 
then we should be ``all in.''

    Question 4. Do you think there is a way to better organize 
government oversight and regulation of the commercial spaceflight 
industry to make it more efficient?
    Answer. Any consolidation of oversight responsibilities would 
likely be helpful. Today there are too many agencies with a stake in 
the approval process. I believe reasonable licensing timelines for the 
agency would also be appropriate and if the deadline is missed then the 
license should be automatically approved. A good first step would be 
for DOT to oversee all space transportation responsibilities and human 
spaceflight, and then DOC would oversee all other aspects.

    Question 5. What recommendations do you have to improve commercial 
spaceflight oversight and regulations?
    Answer. I believe Part 450 has the potential to be the streamlined 
regulation it was intended to be. So, the issue comes down to the 
quality of the licensing submission by industry and the interpretation 
of the regulations by the agency and of the quality of the submission. 
It would help to more clearly define the regulatory/oversight 
responsibilities of each agency that has the ability to delay a 
mission.

    Question 6. What do you see as the highest priority areas to be 
addressed for improvements to the Federal government's role in 
regulation of commercial spaceflight?
    Answer. Culture and process. A more reasonable approach to risk 
assessment (safety management system) in the license application 
process would be beneficial and clear timelines that must be met to 
issue a license. In other words, ``good enough'' now, is often better 
than ``perfect'' months or years later.

    Question 7. What specific areas at AST and the Office of Space 
Commerce need to be addressed to improve the Federal government's role 
in the regulation and licensing of commercial spaceflight?
    Answer. AST should focus solely on the licensing process and until 
the process is improved the office should not be focused or involved in 
any other perceived responsibilities such as international 
collaboration, public engagements, etc. This may seem draconian, but 
with an assertion that current resources are insufficient then national 
priorities (like NASA's Artemis program) and national security should 
be their highest licensing priority. DOIC should also focus on their 
core responsibilities.

    Question 8. What should the National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration's role be, if any, in the regulation or licensing of 
commercial spaceflight?
    Answer. NASA should not become a regulator, but instead have a 
supporting role in the development of any new regulation on human 
spaceflight given their long and storied history and deep bench of 
subject matter experts. FAA should be required to closely and fully 
collaborate with NASA to utilize and leverage their expertise.

    Question 9. At the October 18th hearing, Mr. Gerstenmaier of SpaceX 
discussed the need for substantially increasing resources at the FAA, 
advocating for at least doubling the resources of AST to meet the 
growing workload. What are your views on requiring launch providers to 
`pay into the system,' similar to the way in which airlines pay into 
the Airport and Airway Trust Fund, to help pay for this growth?
    Answer. While adding more staff to AST may, or may not, help in the 
short term it will likely not solve the problem. When I arrived at FAA 
AST, I believed we had sufficient staff, but we were ineffectively 
organized, processes were broken, there was a distinct lack of 
accountability and the team lacked focus. We ``fixed'' most of the 
structural and personnel issues, but culture change takes years and 
continuous attention.

    Question 10. In your estimation, are resource constraints at FAA 
AST the biggest challenge for industry in terms of licensing for 
commercial space activities?
    Answer. No. While resources may be one factor, I believe the risk 
averse and process focused culture is the limiting factor in licensing 
efficiency. It is also difficult to determine whether the office is 
focused on the ``right'' priorities. If, you accept the argument that 
additional staff is needed it should only come after an assessment of 
internal priorities and focus, and workload management is completed.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. J. D. Vance to 
                             Wayne Monteith
Proprietary Data and Intellectual Property
    Reluctance to share data has been flagged in several reports as a 
barrier to standards development and the implementation of voluntary 
safety systems. These reports point to a variety of solutions, 
including statutory data protection, programs to facilitate sharing 
proprietary data, and memorandums of understanding (MOUs) between the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and individual companies.
    I understand this reluctance to share data. These reports indicate 
that companies are concerned that any shared data could be traced back 
to the company due to the small number of providers and the significant 
differences between their vehicles. Companies view the protection of 
their data as important for their commercial competitiveness.

    Question 1. While commercial companies need to protect their 
proprietary information, data-sharing between commercial providers will 
be vital for standards development, collaborative research, and 
voluntary safety systems. What protections could be implemented to 
facilitate data-sharing between companies while protecting proprietary 
data and intellectual property? Would legislation best address this 
issue, or could agency-led or industry-led measures be effective?
    Answer. A third party, like an FFRDC, holding and sanitizing the 
information could be one approach. Establishing an industry safety 
sharing organization which meets twice a year with an FAA chair to 
facilitate and provide logistics, but the meeting would entail no 
recording or minutes, no significant government or public presence, and 
legislative protections on safety data shared with the government. This 
would allow industry to come together and freely share data and 
encourage cross-industry dialogue. Legislative protections would be 
required to be established in Title 51 similar to the protections in 
Title 49 for aviation.

    Question 2. How can Congress and the FAA encourage collaboration 
between industry while protecting proprietary data?
    Answer. See previous response. I would also add that during my 
tenure in AST industry expressed concerns that the more data they 
provided to FAA, the deeper FAA analyzed the new data, and all too 
often FAA required even more data creating a seemingly endless loop in 
the licensing process. This occurred without a corresponding increase 
in safety.
Ohio's Space Capabilities
    Ohio is the birthplace of aviation and has a rich tradition of 
excellence in aerospace. It started with the Wright Brothers, continued 
with Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and lives on today with so many 
people, companies, and universities on the cutting-edge of innovation.
    Following in this tradition, Ohio is home to world-class 
spaceflight testing capabilities not available anywhere else on the 
globe. But I hear they are often underutilized by commercial partners 
or even non-NASA Federal partners.

    Question 1. NASA/Glenn Research Center in Cleveland has the 
Agency's lead assignment for future space communication. How best 
should NASA/Glenn work with the rest of the Federal Government as part 
of its leadership role in this area, to help fortify commercial space-
flight in areas from spectrum licensing to technology advancement, and 
does NASA/Glenn have the resources it needs to accomplish this role?
    Answer. While I could provide an answer through analogy, this 
specific question is outside my area of expertise.

    Question 2. On October 16, UC Berkeley announced participation in a 
new $2B space research park at NASA/Ames in California. In my home 
State of Ohio, Voyager/Airbus have announced the establishment of the 
George Washington Carver Science Park on the campus of The Ohio State 
University, as an integral part of their efforts on Starlab, one of 
NASA's commercial low-Earth orbit destination replacements for the ISS 
after 2030. What key roles do you see Universities--especially public 
Universities--playing, in order to maximize the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight in low-Earth orbit and beyond?
    Answer. Graduates of Public Universities will become the next 
generation of innovators and STEM scientists, moving us all into the 
next frontier. Public Universities provide a wealth of professional 
research while encouraging student research in vital areas of space 
transportation and provides excitement building opportunities to 
encourage United States students to take up the mantel of space 
exploration, including the potential for a true ``space university 
campus'' in LEO.
On-Orbit Authority
    Question 1. To what extent does the lack of regulatory authority 
for on-orbit activities affect the commercial human spaceflight 
industry, if at all?
    Answer. At this time, it does not affect the industry, because 
there is little regulatory authority currently exercised. As authority 
is provided to regulate this portion of the industry, then ensuring 
that one regulatory regime applies from launch to landing will be 
critical to providing operators with a seamless and clear licensing 
scheme.

    Question 2. As the industry prepares for commercial space stations, 
should a Federal agency be given on-orbit authority that addresses 
commercial human spaceflight? If so, which agency should be tasked with 
this authority and why?
    Answer. DOT should be given this authority and responsibility so 
that there is one and only one license required, and one set of 
requirements covering space flight participants.

    Question 3. In discussions regarding on-orbit authority or mission 
authorization, many disagree on whether Commerce or FAA should have 
this authority. How does commercial human spaceflight factor into these 
discussions?
    Answer. Unlike space transportation and other space activities, I 
believe human spaceflight should be regulated by a single government 
agency to ensure a single licensing process and a consistent approach 
to safety.
Miscellaneous
    Question 1. As humans look to operate on orbit and beyond can you 
speak to lessons learned from commercial launch and how the U.S. 
government should approach working with commercial companies operating 
human activities in space moving forward?
    Answer. Update the APA to allow more effective dialogue between 
government and industry. Encourage collaboration across all of 
government and industry to collect and provide results of research into 
the effects on humans in space. Many research organizations, 
universities, and companies are working diligently, but the results 
need to be available to not only the government regulator, but also to 
industry.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                             Sirisha Bandla
Human Spaceflight Occupant Safety
    We are entering a golden age for commercial spaceflight. As we see 
the sharp increase in space launches and witness the first of many 
fully civilian spaceflights, the safety of those onboard must be a top 
priority, just as public safety is. In just over a year, we have 
experienced two significant mishaps with launch vehicles intended for 
human spaceflight. On September 12, 2022, the Blue Origin New Shepard 
suborbital rocket suffered a failure a little more than a minute after 
launch, resulting in the vehicle's emergency abort system jettisoning 
the capsule away from the booster. On April 20, 2023, SpaceX's first 
attempt to launch Starship resulted in the catastrophic loss of the 
vehicle and damage to the launch pad that sent debris as far as five 
miles from the Boca Chica, Texas launch site.

    Question 1. Do your companies have a process for reviewing critical 
human-safety systems onboard vehicles that have successfully completed 
commercial human flights to ensure they worked properly?
    Answer. As the basis of our business, VG's highest priority is the 
safety of our crew and spaceflight participants (SFPs). To ensure the 
safety of our SFPs, VG has created a thorough SFP training program that 
spans multiple days and goes above and beyond the emergency training 
required by 14 CFR Sec. 460.51.
    To continuously improve our SFP training program, VG collects and 
uses flight test data, Subject Matter Expert (SME) input, and other 
information to identify and mitigate safety risks. The following are 
some examples of the data and actions VG collects and takes to 
constantly develop our training program (the list is not exhaustive):

   Frame-by-frame analysis of movement in the cabin, 
        identifying if any hazards are presented that have previously 
        gone undocumented.

   SFP safety data collection by flying mannequins ahead of 
        human flights followed by cabin-safety checkouts with trained 
        employees ahead of customer flights.

   A medical screening process for potential SFPs including 
        medical analysis and one-on-one time between a potential SFP 
        and VG's Chief Medical Officer and/or Flight Surgeon
FAA's Needs for Commercial Regulation
    It is clear that the Federal government must prepare to regulate 
the commercial human spaceflight industry. This means ensuring our 
agencies are well staffed, knowledgeable, and ready to regulate. We 
have heard from stakeholders that the FAA does not have personnel or at 
least not enough personnel with the right skill sets to begin 
regulating commercial human spaceflight occupant safety on January 1, 
2024.

    Question 1. Given your experience with FAA/AST from the commercial 
side, what do you believe FAA needs to do to ensure the safe 
transportation of humans into, through, and back from space?
    Answer. FAA must work with industry to determine what a regulatory 
environment looks like for commercial human spaceflight. Looking at 
safety frameworks through historical learnings, current lessons 
learned, and industry consensus standards will help determine a 
regulatory framework for occupant safety that prioritizes safety 
without compromising innovation and industry growth. Without those 
discussions occurring and a process to look at data and industry 
standards, it will be hard to determine what the FAA needs to do, as 
opposed to what it can do.
    In addition, FAA also only has authority for launch and re-re-
entry. When there is regulatory framework for occupant safety in the 
future, it should still be limited as such unless future authority is 
expanded by Congress.
Washington Space Workforce
    The launches that we've seen from the companies here today would 
not have been possible without the engineers, mechanics, and 
technicians who made these systems possible. My home state of 
Washington is a prime example of the aerospace and space ecosystem. Our 
space industry supports more than 13,000 workers, with an economic 
impact of $4.6 billion annually. About 5,000 of those workers work at 
Blue Origin, and more than 1,300 work at SpaceX, creating Starlink 
satellites. As we move forward in the rapidly changing field of 
commercial space, we know that these numbers will only grow. It is key 
that we ensure we have the domestic workforce to keep up with that 
growth. We're seeing shortages across the STEM fields, with a 60,000-
workforce shortage in Washington alone by 2026. Ensuring we have a 
strong domestic space workforce is key to remaining internationally 
competitive.

    Question 1. What workforce needs and challenges do you see for the 
commercial space industry?
    Answer. The industry needs an increased pipeline of diverse 
engineering graduates to keep pace with the growing commercial space 
industry, and especially the government jobs that play a role in 
industry success--such as FAA, DoC, and others. There should be 
incentives for government jobs, as they need innovative, technical 
people in those roles.
Commercial Human Spaceflight Learning Period
    While I am a strong proponent of rapid innovation and competition, 
safety is my top priority. The FAA has the authority to regulate 
commercial human spaceflight, but Congress instituted a statutory 
``learning period'' that limits the agency's regulatory authority. The 
learning period for commercial human spaceflight was intended to 
promote rapid innovation in a nascent industry with few players. And 
Congress has seen fit to extend this ``learning period'' three times -
in 2012, 2015, and most recently, the latest Continuing Resolution. The 
learning period will end on January 1st, 2024. Since the 2015 learning 
period extension, Virgin Galactic and Washington's Blue Origin have 
carried out successful sub-orbital civilian human spaceflights. And so 
far, there has only been one purely commercial orbital civilian human 
spaceflight, SpaceX Inspiration 4--but this is expected to change 
according to the testimony we have heard today. As we've seen from the 
rapidly increasing cadence in flights and in testimony today, the 
commercial space industry is poised to go far beyond the industry we 
saw in past learning period extensions.

    Question 1. Can you explain what your company still needs to learn 
about keeping your spaceflight participants safe? How much longer do 
you believe the current learning period should be extended beyond 
January 1, 2024?
    Answer. The learning needed for a successful transition to a 
permanent safety framework for occupant safety is not company specific 
but collective. It requires FAA and industry to work together to 
discuss what a safety framework looks like and determine the resources 
necessary to successfully enact it--these discussions have not yet been 
completed. If the Learning Period were to expire--it would basically be 
an unfunded mandate; stretching AST's resources even further and 
competing with its current primary authority of protecting the 
uninvolved public and property. Underfunded, under resourced, and 
potentially under pressure to get rules out in case an incident 
happened when there is no learning period could lead to regulations 
that may have unintended consequences on the growth of this industry.
    VG proposes extending the learning period 8 years to provide for a 
transition period utilizing the collection of data and for the 
standards development process to properly inform future safety 
frameworks. This transition period should incorporate the development 
of an initial set of industry consensus standards that covers 
appropriate aspects of spaceflight participant safety, an evaluation of 
the practical applications of these standards, and an evaluation of FAA 
AST's readiness to transition to a safety framework, including their 
execution of existing statutory requirements like launch and reentry 
licensing.
    The transition period process would create a deadline for 
developing an initial set of industry consensus standards that covers 
appropriate aspects of spaceflight participant safety. The road mapping 
for an initial set of human occupant safety standards should be done 
through a standards development organization, such as those currently 
being developed by standards development organizations, primarily ASTM, 
and/or an industry/government advisory group and would include FAA AST 
participation in the development and balloting process.
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      Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                             Sirisha Bandla
    Question 1. As the only company to go through the accident 
investigation process with the VSS Enterprise crash, Virgin has a 
unique perspective on the moratorium on Federal Aviation Administration 
(FAA) promulgating regulations for human spaceflight. Do you think the 
current system ensures the safety of the general public, as well as 
spaceflight participants, while giving commercial space companies 
enough flexibility to innovate?
    Answer. The current system has a proven and perfect safety record 
for the safety of the general public.
    For human spaceflight, Congress aptly acknowledged the emergence of 
the commercial industry, recognizing that it is in a dynamic and 
iterative, development cycle, and is not yet ready for the full-scale 
regulation that characterizes today's commercial air travel. 
Understanding that it is impossible for regulators to create effective 
and efficient regulations for diverse, innovative vehicles without 
sufficient data, Congress created a regulatory learning period during 
which the FAA may regulate for the safety of the public, or in response 
to an incident. During this period, the FAA is still able to issue 
regulations governing the design or operation of a vehicle to protect 
the health and safety of crew, government astronauts, and spaceflight 
participants (under certain conditions). It is important to note that 
the current regulations that cover operations and public safety also 
provide indirectly for occupant safety--creating a vehicle that 
operates with no impact to public safety, inherently creates a vehicle 
that is safe for its occupants to an extent.

    Question 2. At the October 18th hearing, Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith 
of National Aerospace Solutions, who was also the last head of the FAA 
Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST), suggested a two-phase 
approach to the regulation of human spaceflight. Phase 1 would be 
setting a date before which FAA may not publish new regulations but is 
allowed to start working on them during that period, and phase 2 would 
include setting an effective date for those regulations, which would 
occur a number of years after the regulations are published. This gap 
between the publishing of final regulations and their becoming 
effective would provide a fail-safe, allowing Congress to intervene in 
case industry was still not mature enough for the new regulations. In 
his view, a forcing function is necessary to keep industry and 
regulators working toward consensus rules.

    a. What does Virgin Galactic think of this proposal?
    Answer. While we don't oppose the thought process behind the 
proposal, it is important that the learning period not expire ahead of 
setting a plan for a future safety framework the learning period is 
needed for a successful transition to a permanent safety framework. It 
requires FAA and industry to work together to discuss what a safety 
framework looks like and determine the resources necessary to 
successfully enact it. These discussions have not yet been completed. 
If the Learning Period were to expire--it would represent an unfunded 
mandate; stretching AST's resources even further and competing with its 
current primary authority of protecting the uninvolved public and 
property. Underfunded, under resourced, and potentially under pressure 
to get rules out in case an incident happened when there is no learning 
period could lead to regulations that may have unintended consequences 
on the growth of this industry.

    Question 3. As Mr. Gerstenmaier testified, SpaceX is facing 
significant licensing challenges as it works to test and certify its 
next generation launch vehicle. Does Virgin Galactic have any similar 
challenges currently, or foresee any challenges with the government 
licensing process as it looks to increase your flight rate?
    Answer. As commercial launch cadence increases and commercial 
operators transition to Part 450, AST's resources should increase 
accordingly. The FAA is not currently resourced to process launch and 
reentry applications in a timely manner while working on the Part 450 
transition. Due to lack of additional resources, current resources are 
rightfully focused on licensing upcoming launch and re-entries--and 
should continue to do so.
    Congress should authorize research, engineering, and development 
funding for AST to develop a suite of tools to automate parts of the 
licensing process and help license evaluators handle the growing 
workload. Virgin Galactic also recommends authorizing resources for 
additional FTEs to work through the increased launch cadence in the 
pipeline and Part 450 transition.

    Question 4. Mr. Gerstenmaier also discussed the need to at least 
double the resources of FAA's AST to meet the growing workload. As a 
commercial launch company working to certify launch vehicles and obtain 
licenses for launch and reentry from FAA AST, what are Virgin 
Galactic's views on requiring launch providers to `pay into the 
system,' similar to the way in which the Airport and Airway Trust Fund 
works, to help pay for this growth?
    Answer. Aviation taxes that pay into the AATF are often passed to 
consumers and spread across a high volume of passengers and flights. 
While the frequency and volume of commercial space operations is 
increasing, it will not likely support sufficient revenue generation 
without significantly increased burdens on providers and customers. At 
this time, Virgin Galactic believes that a revenue structure based on 
aviation taxes and fees may jeopardize the competitiveness and growth 
of the U.S. commercial launch sector. However, as institutions evaluate 
future budgetary needs and revenue structures--it is imperative to look 
at equitable ROI for all operators involved.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. J. D. Vance to 
                             Sirisha Bandla
Proprietary Data and Intellectual Property
    Reluctance to share data has been flagged in several reports as a 
barrier to standards development and the implementation of voluntary 
safety systems. These reports point to a variety of solutions, 
including statutory data protection, programs to facilitate sharing 
proprietary data, and memorandums of understanding (MOUs) between the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and individual companies.
    I understand this reluctance to share data. These reports indicate 
that companies are concerned that any shared data could be traced back 
to the company due to the small number of providers and the significant 
differences between their vehicles. Companies view the protection of 
their data as important for their commercial competitiveness.

    Question 1. While commercial companies need to protect their 
proprietary information, data-sharing between commercial providers will 
be vital for standards development, collaborative research, and 
voluntary safety systems. What protections could be implemented to 
facilitate data-sharing between companies while protecting proprietary 
data and intellectual property? Would legislation best address this 
issue, or could agency-led or industry-led measures be effective?
    Answer. The purpose of data-sharing is to look at lessons learned 
and provide for collaborative standards development that could be used 
for future safety frameworks. However, the number of commercial 
operators is small, and the diversity among the vehicles is 
significant.
    Virgin Galactic believes that there are already collaborative 
methods in place to achieve the same end objective through discussion 
forums within SpARCs via the FAA, and standard-making bodies like ASTM. 
These discussions will yield standards development, identify areas for 
collaborative research, and provide guidance for future safety systems.

    Question 2. How can Congress and the FAA encourage collaboration 
between industry while protecting proprietary data?
    Answer. Congress should continue to encourage collaboration in 
current established channels--each of which provide an opportunity for 
industry and government to discuss future human spaceflight frameworks 
and interim work that needs to be done. These established channels 
include COMSTAC, SpARCs, and standard making organizations such as 
ASTM's F47 committee. All of these channels are sufficient enough for 
industry and government to engage in dialogue and exchange the needed 
information to formulate recommendations for future safety frameworks, 
policies, and regulations.
Ohio's Space Capabilities
    Ohio is the birthplace of aviation and has a rich tradition of 
excellence in aerospace. It started with the Wright Brothers, continued 
with Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and lives on today with so many 
people, companies, and universities on the cutting-edge of innovation.
    Following in this tradition, Ohio is home to world-class 
spaceflight testing capabilities not available anywhere else on the 
globe. But I hear they are often underutilized by commercial partners 
or even non-NASA Federal partners.

    Question 1. NASA/Glenn Research Center in Cleveland has the 
Agency's lead assignment for future space communication. How best 
should NASA/Glenn work with the rest of the Federal Government as part 
of its leadership role in this area, to help fortify commercial space-
flight in areas from spectrum licensing to technology advancement, and 
does NASA/Glenn have the resources it needs to accomplish this role?
    Answer. NASA/Glenn should continue to participate through NASA HQ 
on industry collaboration initiatives and road-mapping. NASA has done a 
great job conducting industry round-tables to identify any general and 
unique needs--and this is a great venue to continue to do so and 
identify any specific areas of interest for NASA Glenn.

    Question 2. On October 16, UC Berkeley announced participation in a 
new $2B space research park at NASA/Ames in California. In my home 
State of Ohio, Voyager/Airbus have announced the establishment of the 
George Washington Carver Science Park on the campus of The Ohio State 
University, as an integral part of their efforts on Starlab, one of 
NASA's commercial low-Earth orbit destination replacements for the ISS 
after 2030. What key roles do you see Universities--especially public 
Universities--playing, in order to maximize the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight in low-Earth orbit and beyond?
    Answer. Universities have played and continue to play a role in R&D 
surrounding technologies and science for further exploration and 
expansion of our knowledge base. Universities have utilized suborbital 
capabilities--through the NASA Flight Opportunities program--to test 
technologies ahead of flights to Earth orbit and beyond. This 
utilization has created a robust pipeline from suborbit to orbit--
allowing for technologies to be tested at a higher rate and potentially 
creating a higher probability for success when deployed on a longer 
(and more permanent) spaceflight journey.
On-Orbit Authority
    Question 1. To what extent does the lack of regulatory authority 
for on-orbit activities affect the commercial human spaceflight 
industry, if at all?
    Answer. Commercial space companies are well underway in designing 
technologies and business plans for on-orbit and beyond operations. Now 
is the time to for an agency to start discussions with industry on what 
future light-touch regulatory approaches should look like for an 
effective future regime. Unexpected regulations in the future when 
companies are already invested and continuously operating on-orbit 
could be costly and slow the growth of the industry.

    Question 2. As the industry prepares for commercial space stations, 
should a Federal agency be given on-orbit authority that addresses 
commercial human spaceflight? If so, which agency should be tasked with 
this authority and why?
    Answer. While VG does not have any current plans for on-orbit 
activities, VG is part of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation--a 
trade association of commercial spaceflight companies, and is aligned 
with the association's position that these types of activities fall 
outside the regulatory authority and expertise of the FAA. Any entity 
that manages these activities should utilize the interagency process 
and incorporate presumed approval, self-certification, and defined 
timelines to foster a vibrant and innovative U.S. commercial space 
industry. The Office of Space Commerce is uniquely positioned to do 
that.

    Question 3. In discussions regarding on-orbit authority or mission 
authorization, many disagree on whether Commerce or FAA should have 
this authority. How does commercial human spaceflight factor into these 
discussions?
    Answer. Commercial human spaceflight does not need to specifically 
factor into these discussions as any process being discussed should 
look at a streamlined authority that allows for all range of activities 
being planned on-orbit.
Miscellaneous
    Question 1. As humans look to operate on orbit and beyond can you 
speak to lessons learned from commercial launch and how the U.S. 
government should approach working with commercial companies operating 
human activities in space moving forward?
    Answer. The commercial space industry has seen incredible growth in 
the past two decades--rapidly advancing technologies, growing 
commercial markets, supporting critical USG missions, and reclaiming 
market share from foreign competitors like China. This, along with the 
perfect public safety record of the industry, demonstrates that a 
light-touch, performance-based regulatory structure works. As the 
industry continues to advance technologies and capabilities with 
commercial human spaceflight, we should:

   Engage in industry-government dialogue whenever possible 
        ahead of rule-making activities

   Pursue performance-based, light-touch regulation wherever 
        possible that prioritizes safety without discouraging 
        innovation

   Continue to revisit established regulations at a regular 
        cadence to ensure they are keeping up with evolving industries 
        and,

   Ensure that regulatory agencies are properly resourced to 
        keep up with the growth of the industries for which they are 
        responsible.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                        William H. Gerstenmaier
Human Spaceflight Occupant Safety
    We are entering a golden age for commercial spaceflight. As we see 
the sharp increase in space launches and witness the first of many 
fully civilian spaceflights, the safety of those onboard must be a top 
priority, just as public safety is. In just over a year, we have 
experienced two significant mishaps with launch vehicles intended for 
human spaceflight. On September 12, 2022, the Blue Origin New Shepard 
suborbital rocket suffered a failure a little more than a minute after 
launch, resulting in the vehicle's emergency abort system jettisoning 
the capsule away from the booster. On April 20, 2023, SpaceX's first 
attempt to launch Starship resulted in the catastrophic loss of the 
vehicle and damage to the launch pad that sent debris as far as five 
miles from the Boca Chica, Texas launch site.

    Question 1. If humans had been aboard these missions, what safety 
measures would have prevented loss of life?
    Answer. Starship Flight 1 was an uncrewed experimental test flight 
with specific goals to learn about new technology employed on the 
vehicle, including new engines and operational approaches, and was not 
in a configuration designed to carry humans. SpaceX openly communicated 
prior to this test flight that the objective was to gather data to 
inform and improve vehicle design and operations. SpaceX would not put 
crew on such a vehicle or an experimental flight like Starship Flight 
1.
    For Starship Flight 1, all vehicle operations were conducted in 
full compliance with FAA licensing requirements, which protect the 
safety and property of the uninvolved public. The long-standing goal of 
the U.S. regulatory system has, appropriately, been to protect public 
safety, not to ensure mission success, especially for uncrewed test 
flights. In experimental test flights, things may not go as planned, 
and it is not unexpected that a loss of vehicle occurs. This is 
inherent to any valid test regime. The ultimate objective should be to 
maximize learning, while ensure the public is protected. SpaceX has 
developed a robust, hardware-rich test approach to meet these 
objectives. This appropriate balance allows for rapid, responsible 
innovation that improves the long-term safety of vehicle systems. 
Continued U.S. competitiveness and the success of NASA's Artemis 
Program are directly tied to this framework.
    SpaceX is committed to operating the safest vehicles systems 
possible, and uses early vehicle tests to demonstrate operations and 
rapidly mature capabilities well in advance of any crewed missions. 
This rapid iteration is necessary to eventually get to a future with 
airplane-like operations. Premature regulations inappropriately focused 
on mission success, rather than protecting public safety, risk freezing 
the industry in an early stage, slowing or inhibiting the development 
of technologies that would ultimately materially improve safety.

    Question 2. Do your companies have a process for reviewing critical 
human-safety systems onboard vehicles that have successfully completed 
commercial human flights to ensure they worked properly?
    Answer. Yes. We carefully review every flight and make sure that 
the vehicle and systems operate as designed. This learning enables 
important ongoing improvements to system reliability and is enhanced at 
SpaceX by a high flight rate that provides tremendous insight into 
vehicle design and operations. All systems and modifications to systems 
are flown and proven on uncrewed flights, prior to any flight with 
humans on board.
Regulating Spaceflight Occupant Safety
    While I am a strong proponent of innovation and competition, safety 
is my priority. The potential for a catastrophic incident on a 
commercial tourism spaceflight could have a significant negative impact 
on not just the human spaceflight industry, but on the economic 
competitiveness of the U.S. commercial space industry as a whole.

    Question 1. You say in your testimony that it is not the 
responsibility of the FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation 
to ``ensure the success of a space launch or reentry.'' Do you believe 
that the Federal government plays no role in ensuring commercial space 
flights do not result in the death of anyone on board?
    Answer. Both the Government and industry share a common goal: 
ensuring safety. It is a question of timing as to if and when it would 
be appropriate to establish a more expansive regime of occupant safety 
regulations. As noted in my testimony, both launch vehicles and 
spacecraft are early in their design cycles and continue to see 
significant changes in design and operational concepts. This rapid 
iteration is necessary to eventually get to a future with airplane-like 
operations. Premature occupant safety regulations risk freezing the 
industry in an early stage, slowing or inhibiting the development of 
technologies that would materially improve safety.
    Importantly, the present framework appropriately requires a robust 
informed consent process that provides space flight participants with 
highly detailed insight into vehicle operations, as well as 
requirements on environmental control and life support systems (ECLSS), 
training, and more. Additionally, this is a much-strengthened form of 
informed consent than is used in many adventure sports, like skydiving.
    Industry is committed to developing and strengthening consensus 
safety standards. The Government should continue to facilitate and 
promote this effort to improve safety.

    Question 2. What would the impact be on the commercial spaceflight 
industry should a death occur during a commercial space tourism flight 
while the moratorium is in effect?
    Answer. I cannot speculate on hypotheticals. SpaceX is committed to 
making human spaceflight as safe as possible. However, spaceflight is 
inherently a high-risk activity, as Congress has previously noted, and 
any spaceflight participants need to be informed of the risks, as is 
required under FAA's Part 460 regulations today. Spaceflight 
participants must make an educated decision, with full recognition of 
the risks involved in any launch or reentry. The current regulatory 
regime is appropriate for the state of the industry and technology.
Washington Space Workforce
    The launches that we've seen from the companies here today would 
not have been possible without the engineers, mechanics, and 
technicians who made these systems possible. My home state of 
Washington is a prime example of the aerospace and space ecosystem. Our 
space industry supports more than 13,000 workers, with an economic 
impact of $4.6 billion annually. About 5,000 of those workers work at 
Blue Origin, and more than 1,300 work at SpaceX, creating Starlink 
satellites. As we move forward in the rapidly changing field of 
commercial space, we know that these numbers will only grow. It is key 
that we ensure we have the domestic workforce to keep up with that 
growth. We're seeing shortages across the STEM fields, with a 60,000-
workforce shortage in Washington alone by 2026. Ensuring we have a 
strong domestic space workforce is key to remaining internationally 
competitive.

    Question 1. What workforce needs and challenges do you see for the 
commercial space industry?
    Answer. Both in Washington and more broadly across the United 
States, it is vital that there are responsible policies to expand a 
qualified, diverse technical workforce for vehicle design, 
manufacturing, and processing. A workforce shortage is impacting all 
facets of the space industry, as well as the Government. For example, 
FAA AST has acknowledged it requires significantly more employees with 
technical backgrounds to support the cadence of licensing in a timely 
manner. We also need to expose students at an earlier age to the 
opportunities available for them in spaceflight.
Commercial Human Spaceflight Learning Period
    While I am a strong proponent of rapid innovation and competition, 
safety is my top priority. The FAA has the authority to regulate 
commercial human spaceflight, but Congress instituted a statutory 
``learning period'' that limits the agency's regulatory authority. The 
learning period for commercial human spaceflight was intended to 
promote rapid innovation in a nascent industry with few players. And 
Congress has seen fit to extend this ``learning period'' three times -
in 2012, 2015, and most recently, the latest Continuing Resolution. The 
learning period will end on January 1st, 2024. Since the 2015 learning 
period extension, Virgin Galactic and Washington's Blue Origin have 
carried out successful sub-orbital civilian human spaceflights. And so 
far, there has only been one purely commercial orbital civilian human 
spaceflight, SpaceX Inspiration 4--but this is expected to change 
according to the testimony we have heard today. As we've seen from the 
rapidly increasing cadence in flights and in testimony today, the 
commercial space industry is poised to go far beyond the industry we 
saw in past learning period extensions.

    Question 1. Based on your years of experience with human 
spaceflight, what is your answer to this question? How do you think we 
should provide government oversight of in-space commercial human 
activities?
    Answer. There is little evidence that commercial human spaceflights 
will dramatically increase in the near-term, particularly orbital human 
spaceflights. This segment of the industry remains exceptionally 
nascent in both technology and market demand. The Government has 
significant insight and oversight of commercial human spaceflight 
activities today. The current regulatory regime appropriately balances 
public safety with innovation, while providing for reasonable, 
responsible occupant safety requirements within the existing Part 460 
framework. Additionally, FAA should continue to facilitate and promote 
the development of consensus industry safety standards that strengthen 
safety while providing a flexibility pathway that allows for necessary 
technological development.
    Notably, the only orbital human spaceflight system currently in 
operation in the U.S. is SpaceX's Dragon system, which is certified by 
NASA.
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   Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. Kyrsten Sinema to 
                        William H. Gerstenmaier
Mission Authorization
    While working closely with NASA to launch government astronauts to 
the International Space Station, SpaceX has also invested in launching 
private astronauts into space. In working with Axiom and launching the 
Inspiration 4 crew, SpaceX is clearly thinking ahead on commercial 
operations in space that are privately led, rather than contracted by 
the government. However, this has opened a new facet of the industry 
when we think about classification of human spaceflight participants. 
The ability for private companies to train non-government astronauts 
and conduct commercial operations in low Earth orbit is a true game 
changer.
    Of course, under current law there is no defined regulator with 
``mission authorization'' authority or a clear understanding of how 
different classifications of astronaut's impact how in-space activities 
should be regulated.

    Question. As Congress works to clarify agency authority and remove 
uncertainty over novel space activities, what are the critical 
components to create a workable, efficient, and safe regulation 
regardless of who is participating, such as a private citizen or 
government astronaut?
    Answer. Any mission authorization regime must be light-touch with a 
presumed approval model that enables the next-generation of American 
space exploration and commerce to thrive, while ensuring compliance 
with national security objectives and international treaty obligations. 
It would be premature to establish on-orbit regulation of occupant 
safety.
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 Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to 
                        William H. Gerstenmaier
Mission Authorization Framework
    A recent FAA assessment states by 2035, if the expected large 
constellation growth is realized and debris from satellites survive 
reentry, satellites disposed from these constellations could injure or 
kill one person on the planet every two years.

    Question 1. How should Federal agencies consider ``safety'' as an 
aspect of licensing or authorizing in-space activities? How should 
agencies consider the possibility of satellites or spacecraft 
reentering our atmosphere without disintegrating?
    Answer. The recent assessment performed by the Aerospace 
Corporation for FAA is deeply flawed, lacks fundamental technical 
rigor, and should be disregarded. SpaceX submitted a letter to the FAA 
identifying the flaws in the Aerospace Corp. analysis. SpaceX 
understands Aerospace is reviewing and likely revising its report. 
SpaceX has generally called for zero casualty risk and full 
demisability in relation to satellite reentry. If a satellite does not 
demise, reentry should be targeted to an unpopulated region of the 
Earth, consistent with long-standing practice. Current regulations are 
appropriate for disposal.
    SpaceX recommends standards be developed and a single agency--the 
Department of Commerce--be charged with working with technical 
authorities and industry to develop best practices and standards as it 
relates to space safety.
Human Spaceflight Safety
    There are several ways to calculate collision risk- in aggregate 
over all of LEO, or individual-satellite basis. The Federal 
Communications Commission has examined this issue in recent years, as 
growth in satellite constellations for communications purposes 
continues to rise and expand connectivity on Earth.

    Question 1. How should Federal agencies accurately calculate 
collision risk to maintain the safety of all operators, assets, and 
humans in space?
    Answer. Aggregating collision risk is a flawed approach because it 
makes the incorrect assumption that a smaller constellation with 
unreliable, low-performing satellites is less risk than a larger 
constellation of highly reliable, high-performing satellites.
    In general, SpaceX recommends that an independent technical 
authority (e.g., NASA) work in tandem with satellite owners/operators 
to establish technical metrics for different types of satellite systems 
and different orbital regimes. Satellite systems are not identical, and 
there is no ``one size fits all'' approach that ensures space safety. 
Rather, Congress should provide resources that facilitate the 
development of specific, measurable requirements that adequately 
consider multiple relevant factors, including operating altitude, 
propulsion capability, etc. to ensure a performance-based regulatory 
system. This approach far more effectively categorizes risk than 
utilizing a single factor--for example, number of satellites. NASA has 
specifically opposed in technical papers efforts to apply a single risk 
calculation across satellite systems for this reason.
    At SpaceX, all Starlink satellites have highly sophisticated 
onboard collision avoidance capabilities, and Starlink has set the 
industry standard by openly publishing the location of all of our 
satellites. SpaceX has also worked with industry and the AIAA to 
publish best practices: https://www.ascend.events/outcomes/satellite-
orbital-safety-best-practices-by-iridium-oneweb-spacex-aiaa/.
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      Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                        William H. Gerstenmaier
Starship
    The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) awarded 
the human landing system (HLS) contract to SpaceX in April 2021. The 
testing and development of Starship is critical to SpaceX having a 
human-rated lander ready for NASA's Artemis 3 mission when it intends 
to put astronauts back on the Moon. Earlier this summer, NASA expressed 
concerns over meeting timelines and key targets for the Moon to Mars 
program. At the hearing, I asked you, if you were still at NASA, would 
these delays to HLS be acceptable, to which you stated they would not.

    Question 1. How much of a factor is the Federal Aviation 
Administration (FAA)'s slow licensing process in the development of 
Starship and, consequently, HLS?
    Answer. Continued FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation 
(AST) licensing delays, including for environmental approval, are 
highly consequential and harmful to the development of Starship and 
SpaceX's ability to support NASA in the HLS Program. These delays are 
slowing the HLS effort and American technological progress. SpaceX's 
and the HLS Program's developmental approach requires a high flight 
rate and fast learning. SpaceX has the hardware ready and engineering 
expertise in place to support this national objective. The technical 
work to successfully return Americans to the Moon is highly challenging 
and operating in an uncertain regulatory environment makes it almost 
impossible to make efficient progress.

    Question 2. Given NASA's Artemis 3 mission target date for 2025, 
how will FAA's continued licensing delays impact SpaceX's Starship cost 
and schedule?
    Answer. Continued AST license delays materially impact the Artemis 
3 mission target date. As I noted in my oral testimony, China may beat 
the United States back to the Moon if changes are not made to reform 
the AST launch and reentry license regime.
    SpaceX has a series of developmental objectives and flights planned 
with NASA for this program. In order to safely land astronauts on the 
Moon in a time-frame that meets NASA's needs, we must demonstrate 
reliable Starship operations. The path to reliability involves a steady 
pace of flight tests. We have the hardware ready, but cannot 
efficiently test in an uncertain regulatory regime.

    Question 3. Given the disparate treatment from NASA and the FAA, 
where NASA is pushing SpaceX to quickly advance vehicle development and 
the FAA's licensing process is drastically slowing development, is 
SpaceX concerned these two agencies are misaligned in advancing 
Starship?
    Answer. The Part 450 regulatory framework is disconnected from 
national priorities, including Artemis. Launch and reentry licensing--
whether for test flights or operational missions--should never take 
longer than rocket development. Urgent improvements to Part 450 are 
required, including opportunities to expedite licensing reviews for 
projects of national importance, to appropriately re-align these 
regulations with key national objectives. We share NASA's desire for 
advancing development and returning to the Moon as soon as possible. 
Rapid, safe development is required to keep the U.S. a leader in space.

    Question 4. On October 31, FAA announced it had completed the 
safety review portion of the SpaceX Starship-Super Heavy license 
evaluation for the Starship 2 license. However, the FAA stated it is 
``continuing to work on the environmental review'' and ``as part of its 
environmental review, the FAA is consulting with the U.S. Fish and 
Wildlife Service (USFWS) on an updated Biological Assessment under the 
Endangered Species Act.\1\ The FAA and the USFWS must complete this 
consultation before the environmental review portion of the license 
evaluation is completed.'' \2\
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    \1\ Neumann, Daniel G. `SpaceX Starship-Super Heavy License 
Evaluation.' FAA. E-mail to Senate Commerce Committee, 2023.
    \2\ Ibid.

    a. Is any part of this environmental review critical to the safe 
flight of the rocket?
    Answer. No.

    Question 5. How much of a delay does SpaceX anticipate from this 
additional environmental review?
    Answer. The additional environmental review for Starship Flight 2 
was concluded the week of November 13. However, action must be taken to 
ensure that future reviews do not add continued delays, which if taken 
in the aggregate could be significant over the course of Starship 
development and operation. SpaceX is committed to protecting the 
environment, but the serial review and bureaucratic process involved in 
licensing today are not helping to protect the environment or advance 
national priorities in space.

    Question 6. Does SpaceX think this cadence of review for every 
Starship launch is sustainable?
    Answer. The present cadence of regulatory review is not 
sustainable, and the regulatory framework is at a breaking point. NASA 
and its partners will not be able to meet national goals in space with 
the current regulatory process.

    Question 7. How much of an additional delay will such a prolonged 
licensing process cause for vehicle development?
    Answer. Without improvement, continued licensing delays could add 
years to vehicle development for SpaceX and the broader national launch 
and reentry enterprise--during which America's geopolitical rivals, 
including China, will continue to rapidly develop their own 
capabilities without a similar regulatory burden. The country that 
develops new technology first sets the rules engagement for all others 
that follow. Ongoing U.S. licensing and environmental delays could let 
China set the future environmental and spaceflight rules and norms. 
Allowing China to take leadership on these decisions will be 
unacceptable for the free world.
National Security and Programs of National Interest
    Question 1. Reporting shows that China plans to send at least two 
rockets to the moon by the end of 2030, with one carrying a spacecraft 
that will transport astronauts and the other landing on the surface of 
the moon.\3\ Further, China is developing its own super-heavy carrier 
rocket to meet their intended goals.
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    \3\ ``China plans to send two rockets for crewed moon landing.'' 
Reuters. July 12, 2023. https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/china-
plans-send-two-rockets-crewed-moon-landing-2023-07-12/

    a. Does SpaceX see significant competition on the horizon from 
China given their goal to outpace the United States in lunar 
exploration?
    Answer. Yes.

    Question 2. In your estimation, does this kind of direct 
competition present a national security threat?
    Answer. Yes. We will lose our global competitive advantage. Space 
exploration is critical to a country's ability to maintain `soft 
power'.

    Question 3. To your knowledge, does China or Russia have its own 
version of National Environmental Policy Act \4\, or NEPA, under which 
Chinese or Russian citizens or perhaps an obscure conservation group 
can sue the government and stop space launches or space vehicle 
development?
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    Answer. To my knowledge, regulations are not a concern for the 
national space programs of China and Russia, or for any state-sponsored 
``commercial'' entities operated by their citizenry. China's orbital 
debris policy and past anti-satellite test are in direct opposition to 
appropriate policy. The slowness in our regulatory processes is 
allowing China's non-policy to effectively set the policy for the 
future. We need to compete with effective and agile policies.

    Question 4. In your testimony, you mentioned that for programs of 
national interest, such as NASA's Artemis missions, it is necessary for 
Congress to establish a regulatory regime consistent with our national 
program objectives and schedules. Which key aspects of Part 450 
regulations do you believe require modification to accommodate 
timelines of national interest and associated schedules?
    Answer. SpaceX has provided specific areas for legislative 
consideration to the Committee that would address this issue. 
Additionally, SpaceX agrees with the Part 450 recommended updates and 
clarifications put forward by the Commercial Space Transportation 
Advisory Committee (COMSTAC). AST should be empowered to evaluate 
programs directly related to USG programs of national interest or 
capability with different tiers of risk, accelerated review schedules, 
and accelerated timelines for environmental reviews.

    Question 5. If AST were to establish a ``fast lane'' regulatory 
review process for systems directly tied to U.S. capability--like 
Artemis or national security capability, do you believe this would help 
ensure a holistic Government approach and ensure continued U.S. 
leadership in space?
    Answer. Yes, this is a critical action. I strongly support this 
holistic approach. It is necessary to properly align all stakeholders 
in the regulatory process in support of national priorities and 
leadership.

    Question 6. Are there any historical or international precedents 
for aligning government regulations and agency activities with the 
schedules of large-scale national space programs, and if so, what 
lessons can be drawn from these examples?
    Answer. Foreign competitors, notably China and Russia, do not 
consider government regulations in any meaningful sense when proceeding 
through national space programs. While the United States should have a 
regulatory regime that appropriately protects public safety, it needs 
to ensure that these regulations are being considered as part of the 
national prerogative to remain a leader in space.
    The most important historical precedent is the Apollo Program, in 
which the U.S. Government--across every agency--holistically worked to 
achieve this national space priority less than seven years after it was 
announced. Without this alignment of resources and intent, this triumph 
and subsequent victory over the Soviet Union in the Space Race may not 
have occurred. The United States would do well to ensure it maintains 
this shared urgency of purpose today across all agencies, including 
regulatory authorities.

    Question 7. In the current regulatory environment, with all the red 
tape mandates such as the National Environmental Policy Act, do you 
think the United States could stand up a space program and put a man on 
the moon in under a decade if we were starting from scratch? What about 
Mars?
    Answer. It would be highly unlikely unless changes are made. The 
Apollo Program was recognized as national priority and key to U.S. 
leadership. Formal congressional recognition of the criticality of the 
Artemis Program could be helpful. The present launch and reentry 
regulatory regime is not capable of facilitating the rapid innovation 
necessary to return Americans to the Moon, let alone of ensuring 
America is the first nation to send its citizens to Mars. Implementing 
the regulatory improvement recommendations offered in the Oct. 18 
hearing is key to make Artemis successful.
Rocket Reusability
    Question 1. Rocket reusability allows SpaceX to repeatedly fly the 
most expensive parts of its rocket by driving down the cost of space 
and paving the way for new entrants to follow the SpaceX model. For 
instance, SpaceX's Falcon 9 is the world's first orbital, reusable two-
stage rocket designed and built for safe transport of people and 
payloads into Earth orbit and beyond.

    a. Does SpaceX's rocket reusability factor into the reliability of 
the rocket for licensing purposes? That is, does a flight proven system 
have an easier time getting cleared quickly for launch? If not, should 
it?
    Answer. Yes. Reusing rockets and high flight rates significantly 
enhance vehicle reliability for many reasons, and AST should establish 
an expedited licensing pathway for mature vehicle systems with a proven 
flight history. Such a pathway does not exist today. The key to 
reliable reusability is examining the flown hardware and learning about 
life-sensitive components. An initial test program to understand 
projected life is also important. The post-flight monitoring confirms 
the reusable design is operating as designed. The FAA current 
regulations do not handle reuse well and do not recognize the 
advantages of a well-executed reuse approach.
FAA Launch and Licensing
    Question 1. In your written statement, you said AST needs to at 
least double the resources of FAA's AST to meet the growing workload. 
What are SpaceX's views on requiring launch providers to `pay into the 
system,' similar to the way in which the Airport and Airway Trust Fund 
works, to help pay for this growth?
    Answer. SpaceX recommends that Congress establish new authority for 
FAA to allow applicants to pay for external technical reviewers to 
ensure license reviews are completed in a timely fashion when the FAA 
lacks internal technical capabilities. Ensuring timely and appropriate 
review is important. More resources with no emphasis on timeliness 
would not be helpful.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. J. D. Vance to 
                        William H. Gerstenmaier
Proprietary Data and Intellectual Property
    Reluctance to share data has been flagged in several reports as a 
barrier to standards development and the implementation of voluntary 
safety systems. These reports point to a variety of solutions, 
including statutory data protection, programs to facilitate sharing 
proprietary data, and memorandums of understanding (MOUs) between the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and individual companies.
    I understand this reluctance to share data. These reports indicate 
that companies are concerned that any shared data could be traced back 
to the company due to the small number of providers and the significant 
differences between their vehicles. Companies view the protection of 
their data as important for their commercial competitiveness.

    Question 1. While commercial companies need to protect their 
proprietary information, data-sharing between commercial providers will 
be vital for standards development, collaborative research, and 
voluntary safety systems. What protections could be implemented to 
facilitate data-sharing between companies while protecting proprietary 
data and intellectual property? Would legislation best address this 
issue, or could agency-led or industry-led measures be effective?
    Answer. FAA should continue to facilitate the development and 
evaluation of voluntary industry consensus standards/guidelines. The 
Department of Transportation has convened the Part 460 Space Aerospace 
Rulemaking Committee (SpARC) to review the broader commercial human 
spaceflight safety framework. One of the topics of discussion both 
there and within the Commercial Space Transportation Advisory Committee 
(COMSTAC) is the facilitation of non-proprietary data sharing between 
companies to enhance safety. The Part 460 SpARC aims to complete its 
review by late 2025.

    Question 2. How can Congress and the FAA encourage collaboration 
between industry while protecting proprietary data?
    Answer. Congress and the FAA should support the development of 
voluntary industry consensus standards, including for data sharing, and 
efforts of the Part 460 SpARC in determining opportunities for non-
proprietary data sharing to enhance safety. It is also important to 
note that much information related to launch and reentry systems is 
export controlled under the International Trafficking in Arms 
Regulations (ITAR), which must be considered when evaluating the 
release and sharing of information.
Ohio's Space Capabilities
    Ohio is the birthplace of aviation and has a rich tradition of 
excellence in aerospace. It started with the Wright Brothers, continued 
with Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and lives on today with so many 
people, companies, and universities on the cutting-edge of innovation.
    Following in this tradition, Ohio is home to world-class 
spaceflight testing capabilities not available anywhere else on the 
globe. But I hear they are often underutilized by commercial partners 
or even non-NASA Federal partners.

    Question 1. Can you update us on testing done by SpaceX at the Neil 
Armstrong Testing Facility in Sandusky, for example rocket fairing 
separation tests done in the large vacuum chamber there, and how these 
tests in Ohio are helping you accomplish your various commercial space 
projects?
    Answer. SpaceX has maintained a long and fruitful partnership with 
NASA Glenn Research Center (GRC) and the Neil Armstrong Testing 
Facility. SpaceX recently conducted payload fairing testing within the 
Space Environments Complex, and has performed similar testing on other 
occasions over the last decade. SpaceX also tested the Crew Dragon 
vehicle--which provides all of NASA's orbital human spaceflight access 
today--within the In-Space Propulsion Facility at Armstrong, and 
Starlink satellites, which provide high-speed, low-latency broadband 
across Ohio and around the world. The unique facilities and expertise 
offered by NASA in Ohio have been vital to space vehicle development 
and testing at SpaceX and across the industry.
    SpaceX also continues to maintain a strong programmatic partnership 
with GRC in support of the Artemis Human Landing System (HLS) Program 
to return Americans to the Moon and in support of the Communications 
Services Project (CSP) to provide high-speed, low-latency commercial 
data to NASA spacecraft.

    Question 2. What could space centers in Ohio--specifically the Neil 
Armstrong Testing Facility in Sandusky, NASA Glenn in Cleveland, or 
Space Force assets at Wright-Patterson Airforce Base do better, to 
further support commercial spaceflight, for example through more 
testing of hardware? Is this a matter of cost for SpaceX or is there 
some other reason? How can we better promote the utilization of these 
key National resources? NASA/Glenn Research Center in Cleveland has the 
Agency's lead assignment for future space communication. How best 
should NASA/Glenn work with the rest of the Federal Government as part 
of its leadership role in this area, to help fortify commercial space-
flight in areas from spectrum licensing to technology advancement, and 
does NASA/Glenn have the resources it needs to accomplish this role?
    Answer. SpaceX is proud to maintain a strong partnership with NASA 
GRC for the Communications Services Project and the Human Landing 
System Program. Each program will continue for many years.
    Much of the hardware testing that is performed within the vacuum 
facilities at GRC tends to be one-off qualification testing, rather 
than recurring work between missions. SpaceX intends to continue to 
partner with GRC and Armstrong for future vehicle testing.

    Question 3. On October 16, UC Berkeley announced participation in a 
new $2B space research park at NASA/Ames in California. In my home 
State of Ohio, Voyager/Airbus have announced the establishment of the 
George Washington Carver Science Park on the campus of The Ohio State 
University, as an integral part of their efforts on Starlab, one of 
NASA's commercial low-Earth orbit destination replacements for the ISS 
after 2030. What key roles do you see Universities--especially public 
Universities--playing, in order to maximize the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight in low-Earth orbit and beyond?
    Answer. Universities are key to stimulating direct science and low-
cost technology demonstrators, and in cultivating the next generation 
of skilled engineers to support continued American leadership in space. 
With SpaceX's reusable Falcon vehicle systems significantly reducing 
the cost of space access, universities are now far more able to launch 
small satellites into orbit--proving out new technologies and providing 
vital technical training to engineering students.
On-Orbit Authority
    Question 1. To what extent does the lack of regulatory authority 
for on-orbit activities affect the commercial human spaceflight 
industry, if at all?
    Answer. The present regulatory regime is sufficient for commercial 
human spaceflight.

    Question 2. As the industry prepares for commercial space stations, 
should a Federal agency be given on-orbit authority that addresses 
commercial human spaceflight? If so, which agency should be tasked with 
this authority and why?
    Answer. The Department of Commerce is the most appropriate 
authority to oversee any light-touch, presumed-approach mission 
authorization regime that protects national security and ensures treaty 
compliance.

    Question 3. In discussions regarding on-orbit authority or mission 
authorization, many disagree on whether Commerce or FAA should have 
this authority. How does commercial human spaceflight factor into these 
discussions?
    Answer. Human spaceflight should not be considered in a mission 
authorization framework. The goal of any such framework should be to 
protect public safety, ensure treaty compliance, and further national 
security. Neither the Department of Commerce nor FAA have the technical 
expertise or the resources to contemplate on-orbit commercial human 
spaceflight. Developing regulations early-to-need would inhibit 
continued development of American human spaceflight systems and 
national competitiveness.
Miscellaneous
    Question 1. As humans look to operate on orbit and beyond can you 
speak to lessons learned from commercial launch and how the U.S. 
government should approach working with commercial companies operating 
human activities in space moving forward?
    Answer. The United States Government has derived tremendous value 
from its partnerships with the commercial launch and reentry industry. 
As has been noted by NASA, the Space Force, the Government 
Accountability Office (GAO), and the NASA Office of the Inspector 
General (OIG), the Government has saved billions of dollars through 
these partnerships, while unlocking new capabilities like the Falcon 9, 
Falcon Heavy, Dragon, and Starship that are furthering American 
leadership in space. The U.S. Government should continue to maximize 
firm, fixed-price contracting for commercial launch services and focus 
any internal development efforts on areas with limited or no commercial 
value (e.g., probes to distant planets, etc.).
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Maria Cantwell to 
                               Phil Joyce
Human Spaceflight Occupant Safety
    We are entering a golden age for commercial spaceflight. As we see 
the sharp increase in space launches and witness the first of many 
fully civilian spaceflights, the safety of those onboard must be a top 
priority, just as public safety is. In just over a year, we have 
experienced two significant mishaps with launch vehicles intended for 
human spaceflight. On September 12, 2022, the Blue Origin New Shepard 
suborbital rocket suffered a failure a little more than a minute after 
launch, resulting in the vehicle's emergency abort system jettisoning 
the capsule away from the booster. On April 20, 2023, SpaceX's first 
attempt to launch Starship resulted in the catastrophic loss of the 
vehicle and damage to the launch pad that sent debris as far as five 
miles from the Boca Chica, Texas launch site.

    Question 1. If humans had been aboard these missions, what safety 
measures would have prevented loss of life?
    Answer. New Shepard is designed to rapidly remove astronauts from a 
hazardous booster condition via our highly redundant and fault-tolerant 
Crew Capsule (CC) escape system. On the flight referenced in the 
question, the escape system functioned as designed throughout the 
flight, successfully propelling the CC away from the booster to safety. 
The capsule and all payloads onboard landed safely and will be flown 
again. Blue Origin's NS-23 telemetry data shows the astronauts would 
have experienced no more than the expected dynamic forces for a capsule 
escape event and likely would not have been injured. This unplanned and 
successful test of New Shepard's safety architecture in addition to 
three prior successful escape tests confirms that Blue Origin's top 
priority is the safety of those on board.

    Question 2. Do your companies have a process for reviewing critical 
human-safety systems onboard vehicles that have successfully completed 
commercial human flights to ensure they worked properly?
    Answer. Yes. Safety assurance is built into every phase of our 
operation.
FAA's Needs for Commercial Regulation
    It is clear that the Federal government must prepare to regulate 
the commercial human spaceflight industry. This means ensuring our 
agencies are well staffed, knowledgeable, and ready to regulate. We 
have heard from stakeholders that the FAA does not have personnel or at 
least not enough personnel with the right skill sets to begin 
regulating commercial human spaceflight occupant safety on January 1, 
2024.

    Question 1. Given your experience with FAA/AST from the commercial 
side, what do you believe FAA needs to do to ensure the safe 
transportation of humans into, through, and back from space?
    Answer. The most impactful actions that FAA can take are those that 
improve the administration of the current set of regulations for launch 
and reentry. Demonstrating the ability to scale the existing framework 
will yield lessons learned that will be critical for any future 
requirements related to occupant safety. To achieve this scale, AST 
will require a laser focus on efficiency in the utilization of their 
resources.
    An example of an opportunity for streamlining is the duplication of 
detailed analysis for flight safety even after validation of 
procedures. Subject matter experts spend time recreating every analysis 
despite a robust approval process for all methods & tools used. This is 
unnecessary and time-intensive for personnel whose time could be better 
used evaluating other complex processes.
    Efficiency gains may also be found by focusing on the development 
of tools and trainings that support a limited workforce. Significant 
recent efforts in recruiting and university engagement by the FAA have 
been helpful in driving new talent to the agency. Blue Origin has 
recommended developing a training curriculum so that lessons learned 
throughout the application review are more easily transferred to all 
employees. Blue Origin also recommends building tools to support 
project management of license applications, tracking inputs, comments, 
and results.
Washington Space Workforce
    The launches that we've seen from the companies here today would 
not have been possible without the engineers, mechanics, and 
technicians who made these systems possible. My home state of 
Washington is a prime example of the aerospace and space ecosystem. Our 
space industry supports more than 13,000 workers, with an economic 
impact of $4.6 billion annually. About 5,000 of those workers work at 
Blue Origin, and more than 1,300 work at SpaceX, creating Starlink 
satellites. As we move forward in the rapidly changing field of 
commercial space, we know that these numbers will only grow. It is key 
that we ensure we have the domestic workforce to keep up with that 
growth. We're seeing shortages across the STEM fields, with a 60,000-
workforce shortage in Washington alone by 2026. Ensuring we have a 
strong domestic space workforce is key to remaining internationally 
competitive.

    Question 1. What workforce needs and challenges do you see for the 
commercial space industry?
    Answer. Blue Origin's mission is to build a road to space for the 
benefit of Earth. Achieving our goals will require a sustained pipeline 
of talent to all our sites, including our headquarters in Kent, WA. 
Blue Origin is working to overcome challenges in developing a diverse, 
steady pipeline.
    One area of concern is the limited volume of the skilled technician 
workforce required to support manufacturing and assembly of our 
products, including sub-orbital and orbital rockets, rocket engines, 
lunar landers, and in-space systems. Among other roles, Blue is 
especially challenged to hire skilled machinists and welders. We are 
working to pair concentrated recruiting efforts with an expansion of 
our relationships to the sources of these pipelines: community 
colleges, trade schools, and apprenticeship programs.
    Another challenge is growing the level of diversity in all areas of 
our workforce, especially technical roles. Blue is working diligently 
to hire and retain diverse talent. We have made strides in improving 
our early career pipeline by engaging directly with universities and 
minority organizations like the Society of Women Engineers and National 
Society of Black Engineers, but continued work is needed to secure the 
same success in the mid-and late-career populations.
    A growing industry needs a growing workforce, and we are challenged 
to increase awareness of the space industry as a career path that is 
desirable and rewarding. Blue Origin's Club for the Future nonprofit 
targets K-12 students to inspire the next generation to pursue careers 
in STEM and help invent the future of space. Over 20,000 students in WA 
have been reached by this program, but investment in continued 
engagement of students throughout their educational career continues to 
be critically important for the future of the space workforce.
Commercial Human Spaceflight Learning Period
    While I am a strong proponent of rapid innovation and competition, 
safety is my top priority. The FAA has the authority to regulate 
commercial human spaceflight, but Congress instituted a statutory 
``learning period'' that limits the agency's regulatory authority. The 
learning period for commercial human spaceflight was intended to 
promote rapid innovation in a nascent industry with few players. And 
Congress has seen fit to extend this ``learning period'' three times -
in 2012, 2015, and most recently, the latest Continuing Resolution. The 
learning period will end on January 1st, 2024. Since the 2015 learning 
period extension, Virgin Galactic and Washington's Blue Origin have 
carried out successful sub-orbital civilian human spaceflights. And so 
far, there has only been one purely commercial orbital civilian human 
spaceflight, SpaceX Inspiration 4--but this is expected to change 
according to the testimony we have heard today. As we've seen from the 
rapidly increasing cadence in flights and in testimony today, the 
commercial space industry is poised to go far beyond the industry we 
saw in past learning period extensions.

    Question 1. Can you explain what your company still needs to learn 
about keeping your spaceflight participants safe? [original questions 
separated below for ease of response]
    Answer. Increased flight experience allows us to continuously 
improve. As we fly more, our flight results can inform product updates 
that enhance our safety performance, and the current model allows us to 
rapidly introduce these improvements to achieve safer systems faster. 
This process is what makes any industry competitive and ensures a 
market for human spaceflight activities remains viable. To date, only 
14 commercial launches have carried paying civilian space flight 
participants. The industry needs to continue to innovate and upgrade to 
achieve a sustained commercial human spaceflight cadence that can open 
access to space for more, and more diverse, astronauts. The existing 
crew regulations found in Part 460 and the informed consent 
requirements for space flight participants ensure that the public is 
not at increased risk due to these activities, and customers are 
robustly informed of the risks associated with their mission.
    An extended learning period would benefit the FAA. We are also 
looking at the volume of uncrewed launch licenses being processed by 
the FAA and believe that the Office of Commercial Space Transportation 
(AST) needs to learn how to streamline those operations before adding 
additional responsibilities. The resources, tools, and training that 
AST needs to keep pace with industry today are important inputs to 
building new safety framework in the future.

    How much longer do you believe the current learning period should 
be extended beyond January 1, 2024?
    Answer. The Commercial Spaceflight Federation has advocated for 8 
years. This is a reasonable timeline to expect to see the continued 
innovation & improvements enabled by the current regulatory 
environment. Congress can and should continue to monitor progress 
within the industry and within the FAA and encourage communication 
between the two.

    Can you then focus on maintaining the safety of humans working and 
living on-orbit or even on the surface of the moon or Mars?
    Answer. These efforts are not sequential, and we will apply lessons 
learned and best practices across all our products and programs 
including those on-orbit, lunar, and beyond.

    Can NASA's experience be immediately applied to defining 
appropriate safety standards and regulations?
    Answer. NASA's human spaceflight experience and associated 
documentation are valuable inputs that our programs have leveraged to 
build our safety systems and processes, but those do not represent a 
single solution to safety. It is important to evaluate all data sources 
based on applicability to the mission and architectures being 
developed. It is also equally important to consider lessons learned 
from other safety-critical industries to continually expand our 
understanding and improve best practices.
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   Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Kyrsten Sinema to 
                               Phil Joyce
Mission Authorization
    I am excited that Blue Origin has partnered with Arizona State 
University on the Orbital Reef commercial space station project. This 
project seems to epitomize ``novel'' space activities--all the 
potential applications of a space station with attachable modules 
cannot possibly be known. The ability for private companies to train 
non-government astronauts and conduct commercial operations in low 
Earth orbit is a true game changer.
    Of course, under current law there is no defined regulator with 
such a new ``mission authorization'' authority.

    Question 1. As Congress works to clarify agency authority and 
remove uncertainty over novel space activities, what are the critical 
components to create a workable, efficient, and safe regulation?
    Answer. The following are critical components to a workable system 
of authorization and supervision:

   defining a clear, single agency responsible for new and 
        novel activities;

   publishing a transparent, focused set of requirements for 
        approval;

   providing defined timelines for review; and

   minimizing overlap or duplication between mission 
        authorization and the existing licensing regimes.

    From this foundation, the commercial space industry and its Federal 
regulation can evolve over time as the need arises for new oversight 
mechanisms to maintain U.S. leadership in space.
NASA Partnerships
    The NASA Commercial Crew program has used commercial services to 
launch astronauts to the International Space Station since 2020. The 
Suborbital Crew or SubC program leverages commercial companies to send 
NASA personnel to space using a ``system qualification'' system rather 
than formal certification process.

    Question 1. How do innovations like the SubC program further 
efficiency for both private and government entities? How can we learn 
from programs like this and scale them up as the commercial sector 
expands?
    Answer. Innovations like the SubC program allow NASA to benefit 
from, rather than compete with, the robust domestic commercial space 
industry that gives the United States an advantage relative to global 
competitors. NASA should continue to embrace the commercial space 
industry by taking advantage of existing capabilities like commercial 
suborbital launch vehicles through Suborbital Crew while also utilizing 
public-private partnerships to develop new capabilities like the 
Commercial Crew & Cargo program and the Human Landing System program.
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  Response to Written Question Submitted by Hon. John Hickenlooper to 
                               Phil Joyce
Commercial Low-Earth Orbit (LEO) Destinations
    Colorado aerospace companies have been at the forefront of 
designing commercial space stations of the future. Currently, NASA's 
Federal research takes place at the International Space Station (ISS), 
which will be retired later this decade.

    Question. In the near-future, how are commercially-operated space 
stations going to host Federal research experiments that used to be 
done on the ISS?
    Answer. NASA is working with U.S. companies to develop designs of 
commercially operated space stations through NASA's Commercial Low 
Earth Orbit (LEO) Development Program. Per NASA's ISS Transition plan, 
these companies are developing commercial LEO destinations (CLDs) to 
begin operations in the late 2020s to ensure operational overlap with 
the ISS before its retirement. This will facilitate the transition of 
new and existing Federal research experiments from ISS to operational 
CLD capacity.
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      Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. Ted Cruz to 
                               Phil Joyce
ISS Extension/Commercial LEO
    Ensuring the U.S. maintains a presence in low Earth orbit (LEO) 
after the eventual decommissioning of the International Space Station 
(ISS) is a priority of mine. It is vital for both America's national 
security and for the next generation of exploration and science 
missions.

    Question 1. As one of the early participants in the Commercial LEO 
Development (CLD) program, what is the prognosis for getting a 
commercial space station in orbit by 2030?
    Answer. It will be a challenge to have a commercial space station 
in orbit by 2030 with the funding levels forecasted for the CLD program 
in NASA's FY24 budget request. Increased outyear funding for the CLD 
program would increase the likelihood that NASA is able to execute its 
ISS Transition Plan.

    Question 2. How can industry and the National Aeronautics and Space 
Administration collaborate to leverage the expertise of the existing 
workforce, such as those involved in ISS mission support, to help speed 
up the CLD program?
    Answer. Blue Origin's Orbital Reef team has benefited greatly from 
leveraging NASA expertise under Phase 1 of Commercial LEO Destinations, 
for example conducting technology demonstrations of new materials 
onboard the ISS. It will be essential that under Phase 2 of the program 
NASA continues to provide opportunities that align with its next phase 
vision for commercial LEO.

    Question 3. Do you believe there is enough of a truly commercial 
market to support more than one commercial space station?
    Answer. NASA will be an essential anchor tenant for the commercial 
space station that replaces ISS after ISS retirement. We do not believe 
there is sufficient commercial demand to support more than one 
commercial space station in the years immediately following ISS 
retirement.

    Question 4. What are the biggest challenges you are facing in 
meeting the 2030 goal?
    Answer. The outyear funding levels forecasted for the CLD program 
in NASA's FY24 budget request and the level of regulatory certainty for 
operating a commercial space station are both insufficient to ensure a 
commercial space station is in orbit by 2030.

    a. Do you believe the 2030 date is achievable?
    Answer. Yes, with effective collaboration and partnership between 
NASA and industry and sufficient policy and funding support from 
Congress, the 2030 date is achievable.

    Question 5. In your opinion, what is the best way for the United 
States to ensure there is no gap between the ISS and whatever the 
follow-on capability is in LEO?
    Answer. The United States must take a whole of government approach 
to provide the policy, funding, and regulatory certainty required to 
meet NASA's ISS Transition Plan and avoid a gap between the ISS and a 
United States-led follow-on capability in LEO. NASA and industry must 
work together to ensure that our international partners utilize a U.S.-
led space station post ISS.
FAA Launch and Licensing
    Question 1. At the October 18th hearing, Mr. Gerstenmaier of SpaceX 
discussed the need for substantially increasing resources at the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), advocating for at least doubling 
the resources of FAA's Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) 
to meet the growing workload. As a commercial launch company working to 
certify launch vehicles and obtain licenses for launch and reentry from 
FAA AST, what are Blue Origin's views on requiring launch providers to 
`pay into the system,' similar to the way in which airlines pay into 
the Airport and Airway Trust Fund, to help pay for this growth?
    Answer. Commercial aviation is heavily reliant on shared services 
as an industry, from exhaustive airport infrastructure to air traffic 
control that supports over 16 million flights per year, 24 hours a day. 
In stark contrast, the commercial space industry has invested heavily 
in its own launch site infrastructure without FAA support and the 106 
licensed launches in FY23 each transited the airspace for only minutes 
at a time. Commercial launch licensing also supports launches where the 
government itself is a customer. Implementing significant fee 
structures could cripple the industry and pass costs back to the United 
States itself.
    AST Operations represents 0.16 percent of the requested FAA budget 
in FY24, but the relative size of AST funding does not imply that 
resources should be provided in an unbounded or unmeasured way. 
Increased resources should be paired with accountability mechanisms to 
ensure that Federal investment is being used to improve its 
capabilities in supporting its public safety mandate and continued 
industry growth.

    Question 2. In your estimation, are resource constraints at FAA AST 
the biggest challenge for industry in terms of licensing for commercial 
space activities?
    Answer. Resources are a big challenge for FAA AST, but resources 
should be paired with increased focus on using personnel more 
efficiently and identifying ways to train and retain its workforce. 
Resource increases and other process improvements should be evaluated 
regularly against metrics that demonstrate increasing cadence of review 
throughout the lifecycle of an application.
    An example of an opportunity for streamlining is the duplication of 
detailed analysis for flight safety even after validation of 
procedures. Subject matter experts spend time recreating every analysis 
despite a robust approval process for all methods & tools used. This is 
unnecessary and time-intensive for personnel whose time could be better 
used evaluating other complex processes.
Commercial Manned Spaceflight Moratorium and Regulation
    Question 1. One of your fellow witnesses, Brig. Gen. Wayne Monteith 
of National Aerospace Solutions who was also the last head of the FAA 
AST, suggested a two-phase approach to the regulation of human 
spaceflight. Phase 1 would be setting a date before which FAA may not 
publish new regulations but is allowed to start working on them during 
that period, and phase 2 would include setting an effective date for 
those regulations, which would occur a number of years after the 
regulations are published. This gap between the publishing of final 
regulations and their becoming effective would provide a fail-safe, 
allowing Congress to intervene in case industry was still not mature 
enough for the new regulations. In his view, a forcing function is 
necessary to keep industry and regulators working toward consensus 
rules.

    a. What does Blue Origin think of this proposal?
    Answer. The activities for which Brig. Gen. Monteith is advocating 
are all possible and encouraged under the learning period as it is 
defined today. The visibility gained through the launch and reentry 
licensing process and participation in industry standard forums are 
substantial avenues for regulator learning. We would encourage the FAA 
to continue to evaluate these efforts and seek feedback from operators 
during an extended learning period. The active Part 460 Aerospace 
Rulemaking Committee (SpARC) is a good example of industry and the 
regulator's mutual commitment to moving the conversation forward.

    Question 2. In the long term, do you think FAA is the best home for 
the regulation of commercial spaceflight, or should Congress consider 
standing up a new, independent entity?
    Answer. The Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) should 
remain solely focused on its role in licensing launch and reentry 
operations in service of public safety and safety of property. This 
focus could be better supported by positioning AST under the Secretary 
of Transportation rather than embedded in the FAA, where the critical 
distinction from commercial aviation is more difficult to 
operationalize.
National Security
    Question 1. Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket has been under 
development for a number of years. In November 2022, U.S. Space Systems 
Command and Blue Origin signed a cooperative research and development 
agreement, which Big. Gen. Stephen Purdy said ``marks the restart of 
certification activities for Blue Origin's New Glenn that began in 2018 
when Blue Origin won a Launch Service Agreement.'' \1\ New Glenn will 
potentially provide a third launch option for the National Security 
Space Launch (NSSL) program, which will be incredibly important for 
providing guaranteed access to space.
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    \1\ Wolfe, Frank. ``US Space Force Signs CRADA with Blue Origin to 
Restart Certification of New Glenn Rocket.'' Via Satellite. (November 
22, 2022). https://www.satellitetoday.com/government-military/2022/11/
22/us-space-force-signs-crada-with-blue-origin-to-restart-
certification-of-new-glenn-rocket/

    a. What hurdles remain for New Glenn development and when does Blue 
Origin expect New Glenn to launch?
    Answer. Blue Origin's New Glenn rocket is a reusable workhorse 
purpose-built to deliver high volume and mass to orbit. Its simple 
design--and game-changing seven-meter fairing--continue to make steady 
advancement along our pre-planned development path toward a first 
launch in 2024. We are proud that of the progress we have made thus 
far, including a successful Hardware-in-the-loop (HIL) flight, BE-4 
engine development and qualification testing, booster and second stage 
qualification testing, payload fairing jettison testing, and successful 
tests of our transport erector. We remain on path to achieve National 
Security Space Launch (NSSL) certification and, if selected, we look 
forward to supporting Phase 3 of the NSSL Program.

    Question 2. Of the hurdles that remain for New Glenn, how many of 
them are regulatory in nature and how can those be sped up or 
addressed?
    Answer. Blue Origin is committed to building a strong partnership 
with the FAA Office of Commercial Space Transportation (AST) and is 
proceeding through our New Glenn license application to ensure that 
regulatory framework supports our ability to launch.
    FAA statements and actions indicate that the FAA has not been 
provided the resources needed to succeed in their mission. License 
application reviews are taking longer than the statutory 180-day review 
time and application tolling is becoming more common than in the 
previous decade. Application document reviews get delayed because the 
task-saturated FAA subject matter experts are tied up supporting the 
evaluations of other applications--sometimes causing a month or more 
delay.
    Despite having regulations that are meant to govern all forms of 
vehicles from suborbital space planes to orbital rockets, it too 
frequently appears that the means of compliance may curtail 
innovation--with FAA looking for the same material from one operator to 
the next. This creates a challenging prospect for operators--no matter 
how you plan to ensure public safety, through historical or novel 
methods, you need to mold it into the format the FAA wants to see, 
creating additional and superfluous work for operators. If given the 
appropriate resources discussed in the previous question, AST may be 
able to address novel means of compliance more efficiently both to 
ensure public safety and U.S. national security interests.
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    Response to Written Questions Submitted by Hon. J. D. Vance to 
                               Phil Joyce
Proprietary Data and Intellectual Property
    Reluctance to share data has been flagged in several reports as a 
barrier to standards development and the implementation of voluntary 
safety systems. These reports point to a variety of solutions, 
including statutory data protection, programs to facilitate sharing 
proprietary data, and memorandums of understanding (MOUs) between the 
Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and individual companies.
    I understand this reluctance to share data. These reports indicate 
that companies are concerned that any shared data could be traced back 
to the company due to the small number of providers and the significant 
differences between their vehicles. Companies view the protection of 
their data as important for their commercial competitiveness.

    Question 1. While commercial companies need to protect their 
proprietary information, data-sharing between commercial providers will 
be vital for standards development, collaborative research, and 
voluntary safety systems. What protections could be implemented to 
facilitate data-sharing between companies while protecting proprietary 
data and intellectual property? Would legislation best address this 
issue, or could agency-led or industry-led measures be effective?
    Answer. The commercial space industry features a broad range of 
architectures and mission profiles, leading to unique designs and 
operations, particularly for human spaceflight activities. The amount 
of data generated by the small number of operators has been limited, 
and primarily useful for validating proprietary design features under 
nominal conditions. This data is generally less useful for 
architectures that do not utilize the same systems and is unlikely to 
lead to broad industry findings.
    The FAA maintains visibility to all operations, including human 
spaceflight activities, through the licensing process. This unique 
viewpoint can allow them to observe safety-related patterns between 
operators. Where significant commonality is observed, the FAA may 
encourage prioritization of certain standards or research so that any 
potential data-sharing is impactful. They should also leverage industry 
data to validate and improve existing analysis processes used for 
launch license approvals today.

    Question 2. How can Congress and the FAA encourage collaboration 
between industry while protecting proprietary data?
    Answer. As noted in the previous answer, the FAA does have broad 
visibility of industry designs and processes. They have a role to play 
in ensuring that safety conversations are prioritized appropriately to 
topics that have industry-wide impacts and represent real lessons 
learned from licensing operations. Their participation in industry 
standards efforts could be strengthened by understanding this potential 
role.
Ohio's Space Capabilities
    Ohio is the birthplace of aviation and has a rich tradition of 
excellence in aerospace. It started with the Wright Brothers, continued 
with Neil Armstrong and John Glenn, and lives on today with so many 
people, companies, and universities on the cutting-edge of innovation.
    Following in this tradition, Ohio is home to world-class 
spaceflight testing capabilities not available anywhere else on the 
globe. But I hear they are often underutilized by commercial partners 
or even non-NASA Federal partners.

    Question 1. NASA/Glenn Research Center in Cleveland has the 
Agency's lead assignment for future space communication. How best 
should NASA/Glenn work with the rest of the Federal Government as part 
of its leadership role in this area, to help fortify commercial space-
flight in areas from spectrum licensing to technology advancement, and 
does NASA/Glenn have the resources it needs to accomplish this role?
    Answer. NASA Glenn Research Center plays a critical role in 
advancing technologies across multiple Blue Origin programs. For 
example, Blue Origin recently conducted rocket fairing jettison testing 
for our New Glenn orbital launch vehicle in the largest thermal vacuum 
chamber in the world at NASA Glenn's Armstrong Test facility. We also 
have a substantial scope of work planned with NASA Glenn in support of 
the Blue Origin-led National Team's crewed lunar lander for the Artemis 
Human Landing System program. Additionally, Glenn's space communication 
capabilities offer an exciting future for networking in-space, one 
where utilization of Blue Origin's Blue Ring spacecraft can help 
establish an internet-like network throughout space. It is essential 
that NASA maintain its critical resources at NASA Glenn.

    Question 2. On October 16, UC Berkeley announced participation in a 
new $2B space research park at NASA/Ames in California. In my home 
State of Ohio, Voyager/Airbus have announced the establishment of the 
George Washington Carver Science Park on the campus of The Ohio State 
University, as an integral part of their efforts on Starlab, one of 
NASA's commercial low-Earth orbit destination replacements for the ISS 
after 2030. What key roles do you see Universities--especially public 
Universities--playing, in order to maximize the potential success of 
commercial spaceflight in low-Earth orbit and beyond?
    Answer. Universities play a key role in building the workforce 
needed to support commercial spaceflight in LEO and beyond. 
Universities must be supported in building deeper partnerships with 
industry, to ensure students gain the specialized knowledge required to 
succeed in our unique industry. Supporting priority research areas, 
technical student competitions and providing opportunities for 
internships can help industry leverage the enthusiastic and diverse 
talent found in universities across the US. Aligning with our 
commitment to the Space Workforce 2030 pledge, Blue Origin offers 
internships in the Spring, Summer, and Fall to maximize our ability to 
expose young talent to the industry. This year we hosted 129 summer 
interns, each given substantive work and mentorship.
    Programs like this generate both experienced young talent and 
ambassadors for the space workforce within their universities.
On-Orbit Authority
    Question 1. To what extent does the lack of regulatory authority 
for on-orbit activities affect the commercial human spaceflight 
industry, if at all?
    Answer. As we develop platforms like our Orbital Reef commercial 
space station in support of NASA's CLD program, it is important to 
understand how authorization and supervision of activities that may 
take place on board will be carried out in the U.S. government. The 
lack of clarity around these novel activities makes it difficult to 
identify stakeholders that might benefit from awareness of our intended 
programs prior to application. This has also led to debates about 
whether the U.S. is fulfilling treaty obligations as compared to other 
countries. This uncertainty has led to legal questions within the 
investor and customer communities that would benefit from clear 
authority.

    Question 2. As the industry prepares for commercial space stations, 
should a Federal agency be given on-orbit authority that addresses 
commercial human spaceflight? If so, which agency should be tasked with 
this authority and why?
    Answer. Authorization of novel space activities is required to meet 
our international treaty obligations and any authorization regime 
should have a single government owner. The range of potential 
activities is wide, so every effort should be taken to eliminate 
duplicative requirements, limit unstructured interagency processes, and 
draw clear boundaries between agencies with related authorities. While 
available expertise should be mined from other stakeholders in the 
government, the Department of Commerce would be an appropriate entity 
to carry out these authorizations.

    Question 3. In discussions regarding on-orbit authority or mission 
authorization, many disagree on whether Commerce or FAA should have 
this authority. How does commercial human spaceflight factor into these 
discussions?
    Answer. The broad range of human-centric in-space activity should 
be categorized and regulated as commerce. The Department of Commerce 
remains the appropriate owner for these activities. As discussed in the 
question above, like other novel activities, it is likely Commerce will 
need to be capable of seeking stakeholder inputs for these activities 
without leading to unbounded interagency processes.
Miscellaneous
    Question 1. As humans look to operate on orbit and beyond can you 
speak to lessons learned from commercial launch and how the U.S. 
government should approach working with commercial companies operating 
human activities in space moving forward?
    Answer. The launch licensing framework offers good lessons for any 
regulatory regime:

   Regulate only to the extent necessary--the goals of a 
        regulatory regime should be clearly stated. The public safety 
        focus of the FAA's launch licensing process is used to draw 
        boundaries around what is required in an application. The U.S. 
        government will need to approach novel on-orbit activities with 
        a light touch for some time, until it is clear additional steps 
        are necessary.

   Regulations should be streamlined and flexible to novel 
        approaches--Driving specific means of compliance into 
        regulatory text limits innovation and improvement in a complex 
        environment. A minimal set of performance or process-based 
        regulations should be prioritized only if necessary to achieve 
        the clearly authorized goals.

   Communicate with industry--companies pursuing on-orbit 
        activities are building a robust pipeline of talent and 
        experience that should be leveraged by the U.S. government 
        rather than expecting to be an independent, disconnected source 
        of expertise. Commitment to building these relationships is 
        critically important.

   Rulemakings should consider industry feedback without an 
        expectation of full consensus--the most recent Part 450 
        rulemaking convened a diverse set of operators to provide 
        feedback in a short window via a Rulemaking Committee. Some of 
        this critical feedback was unable to achieve 100 percent 
        consensus through this process and was ignored in the drafting 
        of rules. This process cannot be repeated in diverse 
        industries.

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