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            CHALLENGES IN PRESERVING THE U.S. HOUSING STOCK

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           HOUSING, TRANSPORTATION, AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

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                   BANKING,HOUSING,AND URBAN AFFAIRS
                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS

                             SECOND SESSION

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     EXAMINING THE CHALLENGES IN PRESERVING THE U.S. HOUSING STOCK

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                             APRIL 16, 2024

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            COMMITTEE ON BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS

                       SHERROD BROWN, Ohio, Chair

JACK REED, Rhode Island              TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey          MIKE CRAPO, Idaho
JON TESTER, Montana                  MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
MARK R. WARNER, Virginia             THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts      JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland           BILL HAGERTY, Tennessee
CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO, Nevada       CYNTHIA M. LUMMIS, Wyoming
TINA SMITH, Minnesota                J.D. VANCE, Ohio
RAPHAEL G. WARNOCK, Georgia          KATIE BOYD BRITT, Alabama
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania         KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
LAPHONZA R. BUTLER, California       STEVE DAINES, Montana

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              Catherine Fuchs, Republican Policy Director

                      Cameron Ricker, Chief Clerk

                      Shelvin Simmons, IT Director

                       Pat Lally, Assistant Clerk

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   Subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community Development

                      TINA SMITH, Minnesota, Chair

               CYNTHIA M. LUMMIS, Wyoming, Ranking Member

JACK REED, Rhode Island              MIKE CRAPO, Idaho
ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey          MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
JON TESTER, Montana                  JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO, Nevada       BILL HAGERTY, Tennessee
KYRSTEN SINEMA, Arizona              J.D. VANCE, Ohio
RAPHAEL G. WARNOCK, Georgia          KATIE BOYD BRITT, Alabama
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania

                Tim Everett, Subcommittee Staff Director

        Kelsey Pristach, Republican Subcommittee Staff Director


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                        TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2024

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Opening statement of Chair Smith.................................     1

Opening statements, comments, or prepared statements of:

    Senator Lummis...............................................     2

                               WITNESSES

Jesse Ergott, President and CEO, NeighborWorks Northeastern
  Pennsylvania...................................................     5
    Prepared statement...........................................    23
    Responses to written questions of:
        Senator Crapo............................................    70
Robin Davey Wolff, Senior Director for Rural Communities at 
  Enterprise Community Partners..................................     7
    Prepared statement...........................................    55
    Responses to written questions of:
        Senator Crapo............................................    71
Christopher Volzke, Deputy Executive Director, Wyoming Community 
  Development Authority..........................................     8
    Prepared statement...........................................    63
    Responses to written questions of:
        Senator Crapo............................................    71

              Additional Material Supplied for the Record

Statement submitted by Guy Cecala, National Board of Directors 
  Chair, Rebuilding Together.....................................    73
Letter submitted by HAC..........................................    74
Statement submitted by NLHA/IRHP.................................    83



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            CHALLENGES IN PRESERVING THE U.S. HOUSING STOCK

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                        TUESDAY, APRIL 16, 2024

                               U.S. Senate,
  Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs,
    Subcommittee on Housing, Transportation, and Community 
                                               Development,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Subcommittee met at 10 a.m., in room SD-538, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Tina Smith, Chair of the 
Subcommittee, presiding.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIR TINA SMITH

    Chair Smith. Well, good morning, and the Subcommittee on 
Housing, Transportation, and Community Development will come to 
order.
    So without a safe, decent, affordable place to live, we 
know that nothing else in your life works. Not your job, not 
your education, not your health, not your family, not anything.
    So if your roof is leaking, or the apartment that you've 
lived in for years has a big rent increase, or you're having 
trouble getting around your home as you age, all of these 
challenges are going to stick with you in every single part of 
your life.
    And we know that nearly half of the homes in this country 
are more than 40 years old. And of those homes and the 
Americans living in them, as they continue to age, it's 
important for us to understand that it will take--what it will 
take to keep our homes habitable, affordable, and accessible, 
both for current residents and for the future.
    Around the country, around 400,000 apartments that the 
Government helped build years ago in small towns and rural 
places are on the verge of becoming unaffordable without action 
by Congress.
    Our bipartisan Rural Housing Service bill would address 
that. And I'm so grateful for Senator Lummis for her 
cosponsorship of that legislation. That would help to preserve 
about 9,000 of these affordable units just in Minnesota, where 
the average tenant income is only about $17,000 a year.
    So today in this hearing, I am looking forward to hearing 
about the ways that Pennsylvania has worked to keep up older 
homes that are in need of repairs. And I believe that the 
people who know best how to do this are going to be those that 
are closest to the work. So I know that all of you on this 
panel will have some really good lessons to share with us.
    In addition, I'm interested in hearing about how some home 
modifications have helped seniors to live in their homes as 
they age in place. After all, if the installation of a ramp or 
a lift or an accessible shower can help keep a senior stay 
independent, then that allows them to lead the life that they 
choose, and helps also to save taxpayer dollars when compared 
to the cost of nursing home care, just as one example.
    So I'm hoping that we can learn a lot today on this 
hearing. I'm grateful for all of you being here, and I 
particularly appreciate Senator Lummis's partnership on this 
hearing. Senator Lummis, you are recognized for your opening 
statement.

         OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR CYNTHIA M. LUMMIS

    Senator Lummis. Thank you, Madam Chairman. We've been 
talking a lot in this Committee about the need for new homes. 
But today we're really going to focus on the challenges of 
ensuring the housing stock we do have remains safe and in use.
    To catch up and meet the needs in Wyoming, we'll need to 
build somewhere between 20 and 38,000 housing units this 
decade. And in Wyoming, that's a lot, because we're the 
smallest population in the Nation, as you know, and it goes up 
every time an existing house falls into disrepair and becomes 
uninhabitable.
    Home preservation is particularly a problem in rural areas, 
where houses tend to be older and more likely to need major 
repairs are abandoned. You know, I moved back into the house I 
grew up in and on the ranch, and the foundation and the 
basement are made of cinder block.
    And so getting that those French drains set up, and all of 
the exterior work that needed to be done to protect the 
basement from water leakage, was extremely expensive for me. 
And you know, I've got nothing to show for it because it's all 
the kind of expense that is hidden from public view.
    Our rural homeowners work hard to achieve the American 
dream, and they're more likely to own their own homes outright. 
But inflation has made things much more expensive lately, and 
home repairs and construction costs have risen, just have gone 
up dramatically.
    So when a major repair is needed, rural homeowners are 
often unable to obtain the mortgage or home equity line of 
credit that could fund these projects. Banks and appraisers can 
be in short supply in rural areas. Heaven knows, I know that 
firsthand. It's hard to bring an electrician or roofer to your 
home to make repairs. They're hard to find.
    When these properties are abandoned by their owners, that's 
often the end. There's no economic incentive to rehabilitate 
the homes, and they often aren't replaced either. Right now, 
I'm trying to repair the little bunk house on our ranch. We 
think it was the first home to proof up a homestead in Wyoming. 
It has hand-hewn logs on the inside.
    We've moved it twice. It is--now it's covered with 
concrete, and it's in desperate need of repair. And I'm just 
starting to repair it. There's no way the cost of repairing 
would justify the cost of doing it, because it's so tiny. This 
is a labor of love. This is not a labor of good economic sense, 
and that's true on a lot of rural farms and ranches.
    So when the properties are abandoned by those owners, 
that's often the end. They're not usually replaced.
    So despite the housing shortage, building new homes in a 
rural area, especially at a price that's affordable to a 
working family, is just not feasible. Rates are high, and to 
cover costs means that developers either add more square 
footage or sell for higher cost per square foot.
    When it comes to affordable housing, Congress needs to 
consider the burden of regulation and what we could be doing 
better. And that's true of local governments as well. Local 
governments place a tremendous burden on affordable housing 
with regulations.
    We know that the high cost of regulations have limited the 
construction of new homes, but I'd also like to hear today 
about how we're limiting access of repairs, and why existing 
programs haven't helped as many families as they could.
    So here's an example. Building codes change over time as 
building materials and construction techniques evolve. We don't 
require a home that renovates their kitchen to install 
sprinklers or widened doorways in other parts of the house, but 
that can be a requirement when HOME Investment Partnership 
Program funds are used. Burdens like this limit the number of 
families that can be helped by these programs.
    So I'd like to talk today about what changes we need to 
make, so the money the Federal Government spends on houses goes 
to support the broadest number of families, and is spent 
efficiently and responsibly. I appreciate the work of Senator 
Smith and Rounds on the Rural Housing Service Reform Act, and 
I've partnered with Senator Fetterman on the Whole Homes Repair 
Act. And I think both of these are small efforts that really 
will help.
    But it took decades for our housing challenges to evolve, 
and fixing them is going to take very different approaches, and 
different approaches in different parts of the country. So I 
want to thank our witnesses for being here today, and I look 
forward to hearing your solutions to preserve the housing stock 
we already have, as we work to fix the affordable housing 
shortage.
    And Madam Chairman, I yield back.
    Chair Smith. Thank you so much, Senator Lummis.
    So for witnesses, we're going to now go to witness 
introductions, and I will turn to Senator Fetterman to 
introduce Jesse Ergott. And then I will introduce Ms. Wolff, 
and then Senator Lummis will introduce our last witness.
    Senator Fetterman.
    Senator Fetterman. All right. And thank you to the 
Chairwoman from Minnesota and my colleague from Wyoming.
    Today, the witness is Jesse Ergott, and he is the president 
and CEO of NeighborWorks Northeastern Pennsylvania. This 
organization is dedicated to creating stable, vibrant 
communities by providing critical housing assistance, financial 
guidance, and commuting development services.
    A committed advocate, Mr. Ergott has been active on 
multiple local, State, and national boards, and cofounding 
NeighborWorks Association of Pennsylvania, and on the National 
NeighborWorks Association board.
    During Mr. Ergott's 16-year tenure in NEPA, he has helped 
launch their Aging in Place program, numerous blight reduction 
efforts, and their administration of the Whole Homes Repairs 
Program, is in Lackawanna and Waynes Counties in my home State.
    NeighborWorks NEPA's focus is working with communities to 
ensure access to quality homes, which has a positive effect on 
neighborhood, community, and region. I'm proud to have him here 
today, and I look forward to hearing his testimony.
    And I also want again the opportunity to shout out my 
colleague to Wyoming to co-supporting this. And I really wanted 
to talk about what we're really here today. You know, we really 
have a crisis here in Pennsylvania, and we need a very kind of 
crisis-level kinds of response.
    And I really want to discuss that the genesis of this, the 
whole home bill came from my home State, Pennsylvania, and that 
was actually championed by my former colleague in the 
Pennsylvania Senate. His name's Senator Saval, outside of 
Philadelphia. And on the political side, it's safe to say that 
Senator Saval is fairly, fairly left. Is that accurate, Mr. 
Ergott?
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Fetterman. Yeah. And yet, generously, yeah. But 
yet, even some of the most conservative members of the 
Pennsylvania Senate all understood and realized the value in 
this, and they signed on that. And truthfully, that was 
actually remarkable, particularly as Senator Saval was a first-
term senator as well.
    And I guess that really illuminates just how this is a red-
county, this is a blue-county kind of an issue, and we have a 
housing crisis regardless of where you are, and this is a very 
smart way in order to target and allow people to maintain in 
their homes and remain in dignity as well.
    So I am grateful to be here to have that conversation, and 
I turn that over to Mr. Ergott.
    Question?
    Chair Smith. Senator Fetterman, we're going to complete the 
witness introductions, and then we'll go to our testimony. 
Thank you very much.
    Next, I'd like to introduce Ms. Robin Davey Wolff, who is 
the senior director for rural communities at Enterprise 
Community Partners, where she leads their housing and economic 
development strategies, including the provision of direct 
technical assistance to nonprofit organizations, Government 
agencies, and Tribal communities across the Nation.
    Prior to joining Enterprise, Ms. Wolff served as the deputy 
director of Community Resources and Housing Development 
Corporation, a nonprofit housing developer and service provider 
with an extensive rural portfolio.
    She also has worked on the creation of the Colorado Housing 
Finance Authority Developers Guide and the Native Housing 
Developers Guide.
    Ms. Wolff resides in Denver and holds a B.S. in corporate 
corporate communication from the University of Texas, Austin, 
and an M.A. in global finance, trade, and economic interchange 
from the University of Denver's Joseph Korbel School of 
International Studies.
    And I'll turn now to Senator Lummis for the final 
introduction.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you, Chairwoman Smith.
    I'm pleased to introduce Christopher Volzke, deputy 
executive director of the Wyoming Community Development 
Authority. He currently acts as the chief operating officer for 
the Authority, with a focus on internal operations, program 
development, and strategic planning for Wyoming housing policy.
    He's a fantastic representative of Wyoming with a deep 
family history in farming and ranching, so he's the right 
person to be here from Wyoming today.
    I'm so pleased you can join us, Chris, and I look forward 
to hearing your remarks.
    Madam Chairman, I yield back.
    Chair Smith. Thank you so much.
    We will now turn to our witnesses for their opening 
statements. You each--ask each of you to keep your testimony to 
about 5 minutes. There's a clock in front of you to remind you 
of how much time you have left.
    And we'll start with Mr. Ergott. Thank you very much.

  STATEMENT OF JESSE ERGOTT, PRESIDENT AND CEO, NEIGHBORWORKS 
                   NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA

    Mr. Ergott. Well, thank you, Chairwoman Smith, Ranking 
Member Lummis, Senator Fetterman, and Members of the 
Subcommittee for the opportunity to testify this morning on the 
challenges our Nation faces with preserving our housing stock. 
My name is Jesse Ergott, and I have the privilege of serving as 
the president and CEO of NeighborWorks Northeastern 
Pennsylvania, headquartered in the city of Scranton.
    NeighborWorks Northeastern Pennsylvania was founded over 40 
years ago, specifically to assist modest-income families who 
were finding it difficult to obtain financing for home repairs 
and improvements.
    Now, over four decades later, we serve our neighbors across 
the region in multiple ways, including home ownership 
assistance, foreclosure prevention services, comprehensive 
community development initiatives, aging-in-place programming, 
and critical home repairs. We've repaired or approved over 
1,600 homes to date and have also helped to facilitate numerous 
community improvement projects addressing blight and neglect in 
our neighborhoods.
    All this work has been deeply rooted in our core 
organizational belief that home is where it all starts. We 
believe that having a safe, dignified, and stable place to live 
leads to better health, more financial opportunity, better 
educational outcomes, and other real benefits for individuals, 
families, and our community. We've been supported in this work 
as a longstanding chartered organization in the National 
NeighborWorks Network and as a proud member of the National 
NeighborWorks Association.
    The current housing challenges facing our Nation touch all 
types of communities, urban, suburban, and rural areas alike, 
and span all income levels. The lack of available housing to 
meet an individual's specific needs can have a ripple effect 
that negatively impacts regional economies, hampers 
revitalization efforts by local government, and can ultimately 
lead to economic stagnation and the deterioration of our 
neighborhoods.
    While there are many different concurrent strategies needed 
to address these challenges, one key element must be the 
modernization and preservation of as much of our housing as 
possible. Implementing coordinated and scaled efforts to 
preserve our existing housing stock is becoming more important 
than ever. Deteriorating housing stock can be a root cause of 
other types of community instability and housing insecurity.
    My testimony speaks to creative efforts taking place in the 
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, including the Pennsylvania Whole 
Home Repairs Program, to invest in the preservation of our 
existing housing stock, while also addressing the individual 
needs of our neighbors. With one of the oldest housing stocks 
in the country, combined with an aging population that also 
marks us as one of the most elderly States, Pennsylvania can be 
a fertile testing ground for creative policies and solutions 
that will benefit the rest of the Nation.
    As homes age and deteriorate, preservation of housing in 
many communities becomes even more significant due to the 
nature of the housing itself. Although aging, many homes are 
irreplaceable, meaning if the units were lost, they either 
could not or would not be replaced because of a lack of 
economic incentive to build new single-family units in those 
communities. Likewise, when there's extensive deferred 
maintenance, there can be little to no economic incentive for 
investors to purchase these homes in many markets.
    Pennsylvania's Whole Home Repairs Program has been a 
critical new tool in our State and region to address this 
challenge. While other State and Federal resources have been 
available for decades to address housing preservation, we have 
found many to be very challenging to use on the front lines. 
These programs tend to be broad in their potential uses, but 
burdensome in implementation and difficult to leverage with 
other resources.
    By contrast, the Whole Home Repairs Program is specific in 
its intended use and very flexible in its practical 
implementation. We currently manage approximately $1.2 million 
in whole-home repair funding for two counties in our footprint, 
which has helped us to leverage and stretch another $3.5 
million in Federal, State, and private investment into our 
aging-in-place program and home repair work.
    This ability to leverage, layer, and unlock other funds has 
been critical. For example, our partners at a local Community 
Action Agency have used the funds to great effect to address a 
large deferral list for their weatherization program. And at 
NeighborWorks, we can layer whole-home repairs funding with 
other Federal resources, including HUD's Older Adult Home 
Modification Program and funding from the Administration for 
Community Living.
    The flexibility of this program also extends to the way it 
is administered, which can be tailored at the municipal and 
county levels to meet the most pressing needs of local 
communities and residents.
    Advancing programs like the Whole Home Repairs Act will be 
an important next step in providing scaled investment and 
preserving our Nation's housing stock.
    Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today on 
this important topic. I look forward to answering any questions 
the Subcommittee may have. Thank you.
    Chair Smith. Thank you.
    Thank you so much, Mr. Ergott.
    We'll now turn to Robin Davey Wolff. Thank you.

   STATEMENT OF ROBIN DAVEY WOLFF, SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR RURAL 
              COMMUNITIES AT ENTERPRISE COMMUNITY
                            PARTNERS

    Ms. Wolff. Chair Smith, Ranking Member Lummis, and Members 
of this Subcommittee, thank you so much for the opportunity to 
speak with you today. My name is Robin Davey Wolff, and I'm the 
senior director of rural communities at Enterprise Community 
Partners, where I work to lift up and support the needs of 
rural housing developers, providers, and residents across the 
country.
    Before joining Enterprise, I worked as an affordable-
housing developer, serving rural communities across the State 
of Colorado with programs for renters and homeowners. It was 
through this work I first became familiar with unique 
challenges of preserving and developing affordable housing in 
rural communities, places where we often struggle to meet 
economies of scale, and where resources developed are more 
scarce.
    Communities across the country are losing affordable 
housing supply faster than new homes can be developed. Targeted 
resources, programs, and policies are critical to maintain the 
existing affordability of multifamily properties, because once 
affordable units are lost, they are difficult and cost-
prohibitive to replace.
    At Enterprise, my team and I focus a great deal on the 
preservation of USDA Section 515 housing stock, supporting 
affordable housing providers across the country as they work to 
preserve homes at great risk of losing affordability.
    This program, which houses approximately 400,000 low-income 
rural renters, is projected to lose up to 137,000 units over 
the next 10 years. Much of this housing was developed 50 years 
ago, is in danger of losing its rental assistance, and needs 
significant repair.
    Each week, my team and I receive new inquiries from 
nonprofits, and housing authorities, and local leaders who want 
to preserve the 515 properties in their communities, but who 
are struggling to understand the best way to recapitalize the 
housing, and to fund the needed repairs and improvements.
    I want to thank the Subcommittee and the full Banking 
Committee for the work that has been done to address housing 
preservation, including the Whole Home Repairs Act introduced 
by Senators Fetterman and Lummis, which is being discussed 
today.
    I also want to thank Senator Smith and Rounds for their 
work on the Rural Housing Service Reform Act, which would give 
property owners of 515 and prospective buyers of those 
properties the flexibility to keep this housing affordable and 
in good condition.
    That said, additional resources still must be leveraged to 
preserve all units at risk. And the need for affordability 
preservation extends beyond currently subsidized housing stock. 
In rural and urban communities alike, market pressures and 
disinvestment pose significant threats to existing affordable 
housing.
    As I discuss in my written testimony, a full ecosystem of 
funding types is needed. We must expand and modernize programs 
that are already in place, such as the low income housing tax 
credit, the home program, and the Indian Housing Block Grant 
program.
    There are also newly proposed programs that would be 
helpful in preserving and expanding the housing supply. 
Chairman Brown has introduced several pieces of legislation 
that would further facilitate housing preservation, the Housing 
Supply Fund Act, the Affordable Housing Preservation and 
Protection Act, and the Yes in God's Backyard Act, which 
promotes faith-based development.
    We are rapidly losing affordable units, and there is a 
profound need for directed tools, resources, and policies to 
mitigate and prevent the loss. Affordable housing helps 
households avoid housing cost burden and contributes to housing 
stability, creating positive outcomes that can last for 
generations.
    Simply put, we cannot build our way out of our housing 
crisis. Preservation of affordable housing is necessary to 
address the critical lack of affordable housing supply.
    Preservation is faster and more cost effective than new 
construction. It also provides housing stability and prevents 
displacement of existing residents, homeowners and renters 
alike.
    For this reason, the inclusion of home ownership and home 
repair in the preservation and conversation is very important 
and appreciated. The need for single-family home repair is 
especially true in rural communities, where we see higher rates 
of home ownership and homes in need of significant repair.
    Housing preservation is a critical component of 
Enterprise's strategy to connect low income households to 
opportunity. From our home repair programs in Detroit and 
Cleveland, to our rural multifamily preservation work, and our 
housing resilience programs, Enterprise works with nonprofits, 
developers, local governments, landlords, and homeowners to 
improve financial health, resiliency, and sustainability of 
homes.
    I am appreciative of the opportunity to share my 
experiences and perspectives today. On behalf of Enterprise, I 
would like to thank the Subcommittee, especially Chair Smith 
and Ranking Member Lummis, for their leadership on rural and 
Tribal housing issues, as well as their bipartisan cooperation 
on issues that affect so many Americans in every corner of the 
country.
    I hope the conversations we have today will bring more 
attention to the needs surrounding housing preservation and 
home repair, and that together we can make home and community 
places of pride, power, and belonging for all.
    Chair Smith. Thank you so much for your testimony.
    And now we'll turn to Mr. Volzke.

  STATEMENT OF CHRISTOPHER VOLZKE, DEPUTY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, 
                 WYOMING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
                           AUTHORITY

    Mr. Volzke. Chair Smith, Ranking Member Lummis, Members of 
the Committee, thank you for the opportunity to testify today 
about the challenges in preserving the U.S. housing stock. I'm 
Christopher Volzke, deputy executive director of the Wyoming 
Community Development Authority.
    Since 1975, the WCDA has been championing affordable 
housing in Wyoming. WCDA was created as an instrumentality of 
the State, though we receive no State funding for our programs. 
I'm grateful for the opportunity to speak about housing and 
specifically from a rural housing lens.
    My written testimony, which your offices have a copy of, 
includes more specifics regarding inventory, data elements, 
programmatic examples, and legislative consideration. However, 
due to time constraints, I'll focus my verbal testimony on 
Wyoming and rural America in general. That's more of my 
wheelhouse anyway.
    I've not only spent most of my career in the housing space, 
but I've lived exclusively in rural States, South Dakota, 
southwest Minnesota, and Wyoming. I'm from a fifth-generation 
farming and ranching family, and had a high school graduating 
class of sixteen. You can say I've not only worked in rural 
housing, I've lived it.
    Our Nation's stock for ownership housing is aging. As homes 
get older, they require necessary repairs and upgrades to 
remain habitable. Unfortunately, many working families have 
trouble accessing affordable financing to pay for such 
projects. I applaud Ranking Member Lummis for acting to tackle 
this issue when you introduced with Senator Fetterman the Whole 
Homes Repair Act, which would establish a repair grant program 
for low- and moderate-income homeowners.
    One of the most important Federal resources we have for 
rental preservation is the Home Investment Partnerships 
program. This is why I want to thank Senator Cortez Masto for 
introducing the Home Investment Partnerships Program 
Reauthorization and Improvement Act, which would make a number 
of changes to HOME.
    Moving to a more local perspective, the state of housing in 
Wyoming is complex, it's expensive, and it's lacking. The WCDA 
recently published a statewide housing needs assessment. It's a 
lengthy report, 300 pages, which I feel further illustrates the 
point that this is not a problem we solve with one silver 
bullet. Rather, it's a complex set of dials, each needing to be 
adjusted, so we can collectively bring about change.
    The median household income in Wyoming cannot afford the 
median home value in every county. The situation is no better 
if you rent; 38 percent are cost-burdened per HUD, meaning that 
in many cases, renters are spending close to half of their net 
pay on housing.
    From a demographic perspective, the population of Wyoming 
is aging. Our fastest growing age group is 65-plus and expected 
to increase another 40 percent by 2030.
    Not only is our population aging, but housing stock in 
Wyoming includes 32 percent of inventory built over 50 years 
ago. That's pre-1970; and 66 percent built prior to 1990. They 
need new roofs, furnaces, and windows.
    Additionally, the needs of the owner may have changed, and 
conditions for accessibility and a needed upgrade for 
homeowners to age in place.
    As we transition to the discussion around rural capacity, 
especially those isolated from major cities, they face 
difficulties accessing the technical expertise and incur high 
costs for material transport, making it challenging to attract 
developers due to their small-scale housing needs.
    A city manager, a clerk, even a mayor can be part-time 
positions while they work their full-time career outside of 
city administration. And this creates a barrier for rural 
municipalities to fully participate in the process when 
programs become available.
    I also touch on community banking needs to assist rural 
populations in my written testimony. I mentioned the Whole 
Homes Repair act earlier. I don't need to look any farther than 
central Wyoming to imagine the impact. Mills, Wyoming is one of 
the top 20 cities in Wyoming in terms of population. The city 
has a bit over 4,000 residents. And yes, you heard that 
correctly; 4,000 residents will get you in the top 20 in 
Wyoming. We're talking about rural Wyoming, after all.
    At the same time, Mills is in the bottom 20 percent for 
income. The median household income is barely above 44,000. And 
that's household, that's not individual. The city has an old 
housing stock, with 69 percent of its households built prior to 
1990. We must invest in transforming the housing stock we have, 
rather than losing it to obsolescence.
    In rural America, we pride ourselves in pulling ourselves 
up by our bootstraps and lending a helping hand when needed. We 
look to embrace the challenges posed by our aging single-family 
housing stock and solving the rental affordability for the 
future.
    I'd be remiss if I didn't take a few moments to thank our 
allies in Wyoming and here in DC for your willingness to engage 
in this conversation and partner on solutions.
    I would also like to specifically thank my team back at the 
WCDA. You show up every day. You put in the hard work, work 
that makes real life impacts for your fellow Wyomingites. Be 
proud and thank you.
    Finally, I'd like to close with a quote from a recent post 
of Governor Gordon's team. ``The world needs more cowboys and 
cowgirls. In Wyoming, we need more housing for our cowboys and 
cowgirls.''
    [Laughter.]
    Mr. Volzke. Thank you, and I look forward to the 
conversation.
    Chair Smith. Thank you very much.
    Thanks to all of you for your excellent testimony.
    We will now turn to a round of questions from my 
colleagues, and I will begin with Senator Fetterman.
    Senator Fetterman. Oh, I'd defer to the--either one, 
please.
    [Laughter.]
    Chair Smith. OK. All right, well, then, in that case, I'd 
be happy to start.
    Thank you again very much for your testimony.
    And I'd like to--I'm going to start with you, Mr. Ergott. A 
couple of years ago, HUD secretary Marcia Fudge came to 
Minneapolis, and we had an opportunity to visit with some 
homeowners in the Older Adult Home Modification program. It was 
really great to see firsthand how a little bit of assistance 
making that house that they had lived in for years and years 
and years work for them as they were in their sixties and 
seventies. Just what a difference it made in their lives. Just 
simple modifications, like grab bars, or a ramp to make a 
shower accessible were just a huge change.
    So could you talk a little bit about the intent of this 
program, how it fits with other things that your organization 
does, and what in particular you think Congress could do to 
make this grant funding work better for communities and 
families.
    Mr. Ergott. Thank you for your question. The Older Adult 
Home Modification program has really been a significant 
opportunity for organizations and communities who are seeking 
to help seniors age-in-place safely and with dignity. As you 
mentioned, things like grab bars, accessible bathrooms, 
wheelchair ramps, really can be a game-changer in keeping 
seniors in their homes for as long as they want to live there.
    Some of the challenges with the programs are sometimes its 
limit, you know, funding. So if you can only do about $5,000 
worth of modifications with that----
    Chair Smith. Mm-hmm.
    Mr. Ergott. ----it can take care of a lot of great smaller 
needs, like we mentioned. But, you know, if you're modifying a 
bathroom or adding a grab bar, and the roof is leaking----
    Chair Smith. Mm-hmm.
    Mr. Ergott. ----it still doesn't stabilize that older adult 
in their home, which is why programs like the Whole Home 
Repairs Act can provide that kind of additional leverage for 
those funds.
    Chair Smith. I see what you're saying. So if it's $5,000, 
and you got to come up with $15,000, and how do you come up 
with the other 10? And how do you see those two programs 
working together, if we were--you know, when we're successful 
in passing Senator Fetterman and Senator Lummis' bill?
    Mr. Ergott. Well, we can attest that they work very well 
together, you know, when we have, for example, a home that 
needs that $15,000 worth of various repairs. So it might need 
some kind of accessibility improvements; it might need a new 
furnace; you know, it might even need a wheelchair ramp. You 
can really be creative with how you layer those funds together 
from those two programs and others, frankly, to kind of 
accomplish the whole need of that home, to keep that homeowner 
in their home safely and with dignity.
    Chair Smith. Thank you very much.
    Ms. Wolff, I'd like to ask you a bit about Tribal housing. 
Senator Lummis and I have both made Tribal housing a real 
priority in this Subcommittee. And we also know that there are 
significant challenges with housing stock on Tribal lands, 
where we see properties that are four times more likely to see 
have major physical deficiencies, like even things as basic as 
plumbing and heating just not working at all. So could you talk 
a bit about those challenges and what you think we should be 
doing to address that uniquely in Indian country?
    Ms. Wolff. Certainly. I think Enterprise is really 
committed to serving Tribal Nations. You have met with my 
colleague Tonya Plummer, also, who talks a lot about this and 
is an enrolled Tribal member herself, and who gives our team 
tremendous perspective and cultural awareness as we enter into 
working on Tribal housing.
    Really, the biggest challenges with getting Federal 
resources out to Tribal communities, partly you also, many of 
them are coming through State agencies. And there are a lot of 
requirements related to how those dollars go out, and related 
to things on the back end, such as recapture. They are 
sometimes in conflict with Tribal sovereignty, to be frank. And 
I think----
    Chair Smith. I'm sorry to interrupt, but----
    Ms. Wolff. Yeah.
    Chair Smith. ----do you see those as primarily Federal law 
challenges, or State law challenges, or a mix?
    Ms. Wolff. I think it's--I really do think it's a mix. I 
think it's partly how States deploy Federal dollars.
    Chair Smith. Right.
    Ms. Wolff. And how they underwrite those dollars. What 
additional requirements, as Senator Lummis was talking about, 
sort of additional requirements that come with dollars. States 
can tack on additional requirements if you're going to use 
their HOME dollars, for example.
    Also remember, Tribal Nations are generally rural 
communities, so they're non-entitlement communities. They're 
not entitlement communities de facto.
    Chair Smith. Right.
    Ms. Wolff. And so they have to work through additional 
agencies in order to access these dollars.
    The way that that's not true is through, like, programs 
like the Indian Housing Block Grant, which is a tremendous 
program. But we've been talking about how a suite of resources 
is necessary to layer and leverage together. And when you're 
focused on only one set of dollars, then Tribal homes are not 
getting access to that full capital stack.
    Chair Smith. Right.
    Ms. Wolff. And so I think this has really been the 
challenge that we're facing. I'm excited to have other 
resources come to the table. The real key is flexibility with 
how those resources are deployed, and that those resources are 
sensitive to Tribal sovereignty.
    Chair Smith. I really appreciate that point very much. And 
I also just have to acknowledge that we have been waiting to 
reauthorize NAHASDA for--what, since 2013?
    Ms. Wolff. Yes.
    Chair Smith. And so a source of great frustration for me 
and others, I know, so.
    Well, lots to talk about, but I will turn now to Senator 
Lummis.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you, Chairwoman.
    This is a question for all witnesses. Some Federal programs 
like CDBG or NAHASDA, which is that Federal block grant program 
for Tribal housing, can be used for repairs and rehab, but in 
practice, they're not. So can you talk about why in practice 
it's hard to spend CDBG or HOME funds on rehabilitation and 
repairs?
    Mr. Ergott, would you like to begin?
    Mr. Ergott. Sure. No, I think that's a very relevant 
question to all the challenges that we see locally, 
specifically in the HOME program, which we administered for the 
city of Scranton for many years. Some of the challenges we are 
running into is that when you use a HOME dollar to start to 
repair a home, you have to take care of all of the necessary 
issues in that home, no matter if it's $5,000 or $50,000.
    And the challenge is, with matching and leveraging those 
dollars is very difficult. And so you're stuck with trying to 
put a significant amount of dollars--and when you look at our 
homes in northeastern Pennsylvania, there are many needs, and 
it's rare that you have a small price tag on that total 
renovation cost. And so you can use a lot of funds on very few 
properties.
    And so it's one of the reasons that we started to back away 
from using that program, frankly. And I know in Pennsylvania, 
only about 25 percent of HOME funds are actually used for home 
repairs. That's, you know, that's the stat we have from the 
State. And that just kind of speaks to the fact that they're 
just difficult to implement and layer with other types of 
funding.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you.
    Ms. Davey Wolff.
    Ms. Wolff. Yeah, I think this is a particularly interesting 
question for rural communities, because they do not get direct 
entitlement allocations of HOME and CDBG. So in that effect, 
they are also just harder to access. Again, you're having to 
navigate another--it depends on HOME or CDBG, the process for 
navigating that. There's a tremendous amount of administrative 
hoops you have to jump through in order to access those dollars 
for rural communities.
    I also want to point out that they're really just 
critically underfunded resources. And so there's a lot of 
different demands for those funds. CDBG has been flat-funded 
since fiscal year 2022, and HOME has received a $250 million 
cut in FY24. So I think that part of it is just, there's not 
enough of those funds to leverage in, and home repair doesn't 
end up being really the priority for that.
    We do see HOME dollars going into multifamily rehab often, 
and it does work. It can work in communities that have USDA 
housing stock. HOME can be part of that rehabilitation and 
repair. Again, sometimes there's additional hoops that need to 
be jumped through. Sometimes there's misunderstanding of 
whether or not you can use HUD dollars in a USDA program. They 
are allowed to be leveraged, but often that's also where the 
technical assistance comes in about helping those agencies that 
are on the ground to navigate how to layer those resources 
together.
    Senator Lummis. Do you ever see something like Habitat for 
Humanity go in on some of these projects? And does that help 
you utilize HOME funds, or is it irrelevant?
    Ms. Wolff. Sure. So I live in Denver, Colorado. We have a 
very strong Habitat affiliate in Denver, and Habitat uses a lot 
of Federal resources for their programs and leverages them into 
home repair and to home ownership. And it does help those 
dollars stretch, because Habitat has a tremendous amount of 
fundraised resources as well. And so it's a significant source 
of leverage for those programs.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you. Same question, same last two 
questions for you, Christopher, but I want to point out 
something interesting to you. Fort Fetterman in Wyoming is a 
very famous fort involved in the Bozeman Trail, a very historic 
fort, it turns out in conversation with Senator Fetterman, he 
is related to Wyoming's Fort Fetterman.
    Mr. Volzke. Fantastic.
    Senator Lummis. Yeah. So very historic note.
    [Laughter.]
    Senator Lummis. There you go.
    Anyway, Mr. Volzke.
    Mr. Volzke. Thank you for the question. So I'm going to 
focus mainly on CDBG. We've had some testimony here on HOME 
already.
    So CDBG, I like to call it a little bit of a sticky widget 
for the municipalities. It's a great program. We can do very 
flexible as far as what we can usually do.
    At the same time, it can be complicated for small 
municipalities to do correctly. You know, as the State 
allocating agency for CDBG, we only have one entitlement 
community at Cheyenne. Otherwise, everything else has to go 
through the WCDA.
    What you normally find in these communities is they want to 
deploy those funds, because it's a limited resource for larger-
community impacts. We've seen a lot of water and sewer. And I 
think, you know, some of these people may think, ``What's water 
and sewer? Isn't that already set up?''
    I mean, I think we have to remember, like the rural nature 
of Wyoming, we have the population smaller than what's in 
interior DC We're less than 600,000 people, yet we have the 
square footage or mileage, so to say, of the size of Germany.
    So you've got, you have to--infrastructures--infrastructure 
dollars fairly far, they're pocketed. And for municipality to 
bite off and do a CDBG program that's going to be a home-repair 
style, it's an administrative burden. The only community I'm 
aware that has actually tried that and accomplished it, this 
was years ago, was Casper. And they've since backed away from 
that. And we're doing other programs with Casper, but more on 
a, not on a home repair.
    So I just don't know if CDBG and home repairs are a good 
match. Hence the reason the Whole Home Repairs Act seems to be 
a better deployment of those dollars.
    In regards to your second question on Habitat for Humanity, 
you know, we do deploy these funds and CDBG to units of local 
government. So local government would have to sponsor, say, 
this, Habitat for Humanity to do that. We haven't necessarily 
seen that happen here in Wyoming. We'd be happy to see, you 
know, do that if there's the ability to do that. But once 
again, it kind of comes down to a capacity thing, and with the 
amount of municipalities coming in for the money, so.
    Senator Lummis. Thanks, Madam Chairwoman.
    Chair Smith. Thank you so much.
    Senator Tester.
    Senator Tester. I want to thank the Chair and Ranking 
Member for having this hearing. It's very, very important.
    I also want to thank the panelists for being here. 
Sometimes we have hearings, and the panelists are great, but 
they're not panelists that actually have solutions. I think all 
three of you have solutions, and I want to commend both the 
Chairman and the Ranking Member for having the folks here that 
are here.
    Look, housing is a big issue everywhere. It's a big issue 
in Montana, communities of all sizes. In many areas, there 
aren't houses available, and if there are houses available, 
nobody can afford to buy them that makes a reasonable wage.
    In some of our more rural communities, housing is not fit 
to live in, unless it's rehabbed.
    It's the first thing I hear about when I talk to Main 
Street businesses. We just had a sawmill shut down in Montana, 
and this is just one example of many. And the reason they shut 
down, lack of workforce; lack of housing, even if they had the 
workforce.
    So if we're going to have an economy and communities that 
are vibrant, both of them, I think we need to get the Rural 
Housing Service Reform Act passed, something that Senator Smith 
and Senator Rounds both have been working on, because our rural 
communities have significant housing needs.
    I think our urban communities do, too. But the bottom line 
is if we're going to get housing on track in rural America, 
this is one step in the right direction.
    So Ms. Wolff, could you just let me know as concisely as 
you can, more concisely than I just said, how this bill will 
make sure that we preserve housing in rural areas ,so that 
those communities can continue to grow.
    Ms. Wolff. Sure. Thank you, Senator Tester, for your 
question.
    Enterprise supports the Rural Housing Service Reform Act, 
which is led by Senators Smith and Rounds and is supported by 
the majority of the Committee. This legislation is going to 
make long overdue updates to RHS programs that are really 
needed, including allowing Section 521 rental assistance to 
continue at properties where the USDA mortgage expires.
    Right now, that's a big concern, because we have have a tie 
of that rental assistance to the mortgage on the property. We 
have many mortgages; the peak starts in 2028, but we are 
already right now on the cusp of losing a tremendous amount of 
housing to just mortgage maturity.
    And with that housing stock, we are also going to lose 
rental assistance. So I'm really excited about the 
conversations around decoupling that are included.
    It's also going to help leverage--tack housing credits into 
debt to recapitalize the properties, while ensuring that the 
tenants can continue to be stably housed. It allows for 
different resources to come in. This is super important, since 
there are around 400,000 units of Section 515 housing 
remaining.
    On the single-family side, the bill would also build off 
the successes using the Section 502 direct lending program for 
native communities, which we're very much in support of as 
well, and make important updates to USDA's home repair loan 
limits, which I think could really be leveraged by the Whole 
Home Repairs Act and other sources such as that.
    So all really important to have that RHS Reform Act put in 
place.
    Senator Tester. Thank you.
    Mr. Ergott, manufactured homes have long been a widely 
utilized option for affordability in Montana.
    Recent years, we've seen out-of-State investors come in and 
buy manufactured-home communities. They start with adding fees, 
and then they jack up rent, and all of a sudden those 
affordable-housing options aren't so affordable anymore. And 
quite honestly, the people they're putting at risk don't have a 
lot of options, period.
    So what tools do we have to keep the big national investors 
from buying up, whether it be in Montana or any other State, 
buying up these manufactured-home communities, eliminating the 
only affordable option for many of the hardworking families, 
and for Montana seniors. What can we do about that?
    Mr. Ergott. So thank you, Senator Tester. We, in 
northeastern Pennsylvania, it's not one of our primary areas of 
expertise or work, but what I do know is that many across our 
network, in the National Labor Works Network, are helping to 
try to organize local mobile-home parks, manufactured-home 
parks, to purchase ownership themselves. And so finding ways, I 
think, to empower the folks who live in those homes, and enable 
them to find their own local solutions to ownership, is a way 
to control some of that before the out-of-town investors come 
in.
    Senator Tester. Thank you.
    Mr. Volzke, I do not have a question for you at this moment 
in time, but I appreciate you being here. Your description of 
what's going on in Wyoming versus Washington, DC, is a pretty 
damn good description of why one-size-fits-all policies don't 
work in Washington, DC. Because the distance issue in a State 
like Wyoming, our good neighbor to the south, is just a killer 
in rural America. So if we don't take that into account, it 
becomes a problem. So thank you for being here.
    Chair Smith. Thank you Senator Tester.
    Senator Fetterman.
    Senator Fetterman. Thank you. So Mr. Volzke, strange as it 
might sound, but I've spent a lot of time in Wyoming, and I 
know that a town about 4,000 size is meaningful and a big deal 
in Wyoming. In fact, I was a small--I was a mayor of a town of 
roughly that size as well. So I understand that.
    So let me ask you a question. Do you have leaky roofs in 
Wyoming?
    Mr. Volzke. Yes, I'd say there's leaky roofs across the 
State.
    Senator Fetterman. Do furnaces break down?
    Mr. Volzke. Unfortunately, the mechanics also break down in 
Wyoming, correct.
    Senator Fetterman. Oh, yeah. Well; why, we need to confirm. 
Mr. Ergott, do roofs leak in Pennsylvania?
    Mr. Ergott. Senator, many of the roofs leak in 
Pennsylvania, yeah.
    Senator Fetterman. And furnaces? Do they break down?
    Mr. Ergott. Often. Yeah.
    Senator Fetterman. Hmm. Well, that's--and in my community 
and in western Pennsylvania, they do, and they do. And this is 
the kind of a bill that it can address to those kinds of a 
thing.
    It's also that once a roof is breached, and now the home is 
allowed to deteriorate, and become unhabitable, and then that 
becomes abandoned, and that creates all kinds of other costs as 
well. And it's not very cheap to actually demolish them.
    And that's a significant issue in my community is right 
now. For every abandoned home, that becomes a 20,000 to 25,000 
IOU to demolish, and that's one less home for someone to live 
in. And this is the kind of bill that can address that with the 
kind of flexibilities of that.
    Have any of you, when you are providing some kind of 
service, did you ever ask them, ``Who are you voting for?'' Or 
``What are your political beliefs are?''
    Mr. Ergott. No. No.
    Senator Fetterman. So it's really agnostic to politics or 
red or blue counties. It's just something for all of us, for 
Americans, that they have these kinds of very common issues, 
and it allows them that typically skew more elderly, and they 
just want to remain in dignity and this kind of security of 
living in their home. Is that accurate? Seems pretty reasonable 
as well.
    And also when you often deal with the Government, things 
can be less inefficient then. But this is the kind of 
flexibility that allows those things to directly is all. Is 
that accurate?
    Mr. Ergott. [Nods.]
    Senator Fetterman. Flexibility can be helpful in that. 
Right? And it addressed these very specific kinds of a thing. 
And it is undeniable that making someone's bathroom more 
comfortable or usable means, or bars and things, that's 
helpful. But to that point earlier, it's like you can't live 
with a better bathroom if you can't heat your house, or it's 
leaking, and it may sit there. So this really gets that.
    And this also allows that if you are forced to leave your 
home, that cannot preserve any kind of wealth or anything as 
well.
    So this undermines a lot of different things as well. And 
this was born in a senator from Pennsylvania in a very, very 
blue, liberal, and that was embraced by a very, very 
conservative members of my former chamber in Pennsylvania. And 
now as politics become more and more, you know, divisive and 
everything, it's encouraging to have something like this we 
could, hopefully we can come together and acknowledge, that we 
want to, you know, we want to serve everyone and allows them to 
provide elderly to live in dignity, and to preserve our housing 
stock, and remind everybody that, as what my colleague from 
Montana pointed out, that we need kind of solutions like that.
    So I want to thank all of you on what your works do and how 
important that is. Small town, where I live in right now, 
regardless of where in this Nation, this is the kind of bill 
that can address that and allow people to live in dignity and 
to preserve our housing stock in a Nation that is now faced 
with a significant housing crisis. So I want to thank you for 
coming here and joining us today.
    And I turn back to our Chairwoman.
    Chair Smith. Thank you so much, Senator Fetterman, and 
thanks for your work on this legislation.
    I believe that Senator Cortez Masto will be joining us 
shortly.
    But in the meantime, I'll turn to Senator Lummis, if you 
have any additional follow-up questions.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you, Madam Chairwoman.
    A quick question for Mr. Volzke. We talked earlier about 
CDBG and HOME. So now I'd like to turn to CDFIs. What are some 
of the reasons that banks and even community-focused lenders 
like CDFIs have not been able to provide sufficient financing 
for needed repairs and rehab in rural areas?
    Mr. Volzke. Thank you for the question, Ranking Member 
Lummis. I think it's a very interesting piece of this 
particular equation, because you would think, we have a 
financing mechanism out there, why can't these people just go 
get some loans from their local bank and solve this, right?
    The fact of the matter is, you know, banks have a different 
profile. They're looking at the credit, and they're looking at 
that risk profile, whether that's a national bank or even a 
community bank. So they're governed to make sure that the risk 
they're putting out there, whether it's a cash-out refi, 
whether it's a HELOC, that person has the ability to repay.
    Unfortunately, if you've got a 540 FICO and a 45 percent 
debt ratio, you may not qualify for any bank financing, but 
that doesn't make your leaking roof go away, right? So that's 
kind of the impact of the people that we're trying to help 
through, say, the Whole Homes Repair Act bill. Right? You're 
capturing the folks that don't have access to credit.
    Even though folks that do have access to credit, typically, 
especially in a rural area, it's going to be more expensive. By 
way of example, I know a couple who recently the wife became 
wheelchair-bound, and they needed to do some accessibility 
modifications to the kitchen and ramps and et cetera. They 
needed about $20,000.
    They go and do a cash-out refi. Most banks are going to 
sell that in the secondary market to Fannie or Freddie. You now 
have got to find a appraiser.
    The nearest appraiser is a 3-hour round trip.
    Senator Lummis. Yeah.
    Mr. Volzke. You've got the cost of that coming in, and then 
also just the cost of doing that loan, that $20,000 suddenly 
became like 23 or $24,000, just for the origination fees on it. 
So even if you got the ability to, it can be very costly.
    CDFIs? I think in certain States, they're very robust, and 
they maybe can be a more nuanced approach. Unfortunately, in 
other areas of the country, you have very few CDFIs. I'm only 
personally aware of one in the State of Wyoming. There may be 
some others that I haven't ran into, but we've only interacted 
with one here in Wyoming.
    Senator Lummis. Is that the one on the reservation?
    Mr. Volzke. It is, yes. Thank you. Yeah, so that's the only 
CDFI I am aware of in the entire State of Wyoming.
    So that's also a little more nuanced and not going to solve 
our statewide problems. So you've kind of got this dual edge 
thing of community lending, whether it's accessible and the 
cost, and then the CDFI piece doesn't--it's not a one-size-
fits-all.
    Senator Lummis. OK. Thank you so much. I note that we've 
been joined by our colleagues, Senator Cortez Masto. So I will 
yield additional time to her.
    Chair Smith. Thank you, Senator Lummis.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you, Senator Cortez Masto.
    Senator Cortez Masto. Thank you.
    And I have to thank both the Chair and Ranking Member for 
their continued focus on really addressing affordable housing 
needs. So thank you so much. It is an issue in Nevada I've been 
working on, to address affordable housing needs.
    So Mr. Volzke, let me ask you. This is regarding the HOME 
Investment Partnerships Program. I have a piece of legislation 
that reauthorizes the legislation. It's S. 3793.
    But can you do me a favor? Why is the home program so 
important to our ability to invest in affordable housing, 
construction, and preservation? Can you touch on that a little 
bit?
    Mr. Volzke. Yes. Thank you for the question, Senator. For 
us, you know, HOME is one of the most-used programs we have for 
rental rehabilitation and rental creation. That's primarily how 
we use that program in Wyoming. It's got some other 
flexibilities that could be used for other items, but to be 
quite honest, we've never quite cracked the code on how to do 
that for single-family development and rehab.
    It's a little scattershot. Other States will use that. Some 
States for their single-family piece will use it for 
downpayment assistance. We roll that into our mortgage revenue 
bonds. We finance those. So we don't want to take HOME dollars 
and use them for something that I can solve in a different way.
    So really, it's one of the main tools to help create 
inventory and rehab inventory that the--otherwise, the private 
market isn't doing 50 percent AMI units. So it's a good tool.
    Senator Cortez Masto. And that's what I hear in Nevada as 
well. And that's why for me, this piece of legislation is so 
important, not just in Nevada, but as you identified, in 
Wyoming and other communities as well. And I'd hope all of my 
colleagues join me in this legislation.
    Let me touch on something else as well. It's the Mortgage 
Revenue Bond and Mortgage Credit Certificate programs. Again, 
this is--there's a piece of legislation that I have focused in 
this space.
    And again, Mr. Volzke, let me ask you this. How do State 
housing finance agencies use the Mortgage Revenue Bond and 
Mortgage Credit Certificate to improve middle-class families' 
ability to buy homes?
    Mr. Volzke. Yeah. So in Wyoming, the Mortgage Revenue Bonds 
is really our bread and butter for how we finance what we call 
our first-time homebuyer program. And that's, I think, what 
most people in Wyoming recognize, and they see the WCDA 
acronym, they think first-time home buyers.
    Those tax-exempt bonds allow us a lower cost of issuance, 
and then we're allowed to pass that savings on to prospective 
homebuyers that are trying to buy. It kind of depends on the 
market, but a lot of times, especially the rates being higher, 
we get actually a better competitive advantage in the tax-
exempt revenue space. So we could be sometimes up to a point 
lower. And a point lower on a 30-year mortgage for a first-time 
homebuyer can sometimes be the difference between whether they 
qualify to buy a home. or whether they're still in the rental 
space.
    So opening equity and the ability for them to share in 
wealth creation.
    Senator Cortez Masto. And this is in my legislation. But 
why is it essential to increase the Mortgage Revenue Bond and 
home improvement loan limit from 15,000 to 50,000?
    Mr. Volzke. Yeah. So that's a piece of the legislation that 
would allow for rehabilitation work. And it hasn't been 
adjusted, from my understanding, in decades, and I think we've 
heard plenty of testimony here that $15,000 is most likely not 
going to create the necessary rehabilitation pieces; or maybe 
it'll address one of the rehabilitation pieces, but not 
holistically. So I think it's a more all-in number that allows 
a homeowner to properly get their house ready for the next 10 
years, 20 years.
    Senator Cortez Masto. And thank you. And again, legislation 
that actually, Senator Cassidy and I introduced, the Affordable 
Housing Bond Enhancement Act, really focuses on all these 
issues that we're hearing about. We've heard from our housing 
communities. How do we address this? How do we bring affordable 
housing?
    We know that at the end of the day, putting together 
affordable housing is cobbling financing together. It is not 
easy. You need people that understand it, but we also need 
those programs that we can rely on to help address and bring in 
that financing. So that is key for all of us.
    I thank you for giving me the opportunity, as I bounce 
around between Committee hearings this morning, to come in and 
talk about this important issue.
    Chair Smith. Thank you, Senator Cortez Masto.
    Senator Lummis.
    Senator Lummis. You know, this question is for you, Madam 
Chairwoman, I'm glad you came. It seems like we're getting good 
momentum, good feedback, good validation for these bills, from 
a variety of panels and witnesses.
    What do you think are the chances that we can put together 
sort of a package of housing bills and bring them to the full 
Banking Committee, and get a vote, and get these bills moving 
before the end of the calendar year? I know we don't have 
many--a surprisingly few number of days on the Senate calendar 
that are available for things other than, you know, budgets and 
the big stuff, but these bills seem to have so much--use case 
has been established. The bills have good support. What are the 
chances?
    Chair Smith. Well, thank you for that, Senator Lummis. And 
I agree with you that there are a group of bills that are 
defined by being really focused on solutions to problems, and 
that are bipartisan. And I know that the Chair is very 
interested in moving forward a set of bills that would allow us 
to take action. Not only on the Rural Housing Service bill, but 
on many of these other bills that have bipartisan support and 
that are within the jurisdiction of this Committee.
    And so I think all of the Members of this Committee should 
give that message to both the Chair and the Ranking Member, 
that we think it would be really valuable to do a markup and to 
move them forward.
    Senator Lummis. Thank you. I will make a point of doing 
that with the Ranking Member. I know housing has always been a 
high priority of his----
    Chair Smith. Yes.
    Senator Lummis. ----on this Committee, so I think we're in 
a decent position to rattle some cages around here.
    Chair Smith. Thank you. I think we could make real headway. 
Thank you for sharing that.
    Senator Lummis. Thanks very much, Madam Chairwoman.
    Chair Smith. Chairwoman, I have just one follow-up 
question, and then I think we'll be ready to conclude, unless 
any of my colleagues have other questions.
    Ms. Wolff, when I was asking you about Tribal housing 
issues, you noted that a lack of understanding of Tribal 
sovereignty is often a barrier for program implementation, both 
at the Federal and the State level. And I wanted you just to 
elaborate on that a bit and explain to us kind of where the--
where that breakdown is. I note that in Federal policy, there 
is frequently a challenge with Federal agencies not always 
grasping how Tribal sovereignty affects the way that these 
programs are implemented.
    Ms. Wolff. Yes. Thank you for the question. And I want to 
say I'm still a learner about this as well. And I've been 
working--I've had the privilege to support our Tribal Nations 
team through a deployment of technical assistance, primarily in 
the State of California last year, as they were working to 
leverage State resources into Tribal housing.
    But again, I continue to learn, and as we're all learning 
about this, this matter. And each Tribal Nation is different. 
And it's a different Government. It's own Government, and we 
have to think about it as Government-to-Government relations. 
And I think that's just something different for many of us to 
wrap our heads around, for our bureaucracies to wrap their 
heads around, because we're so used to all the different boxes.
    So an example of kind of where you might run into this is 
the State resources might say you have to have a--this is also, 
I think, not really responsive to rural communities either. But 
a State resource might say, ``You need to have your transit 
committee sign off on this''----
    Chair Smith. Yeah.
    Ms. Wolff. ----you know, ``in order to build X amount of 
housing units.''
    Well, there's no transit community. And so then the 
conversation needs to be, ``Well, can we have the Tribal 
council, which is the authority, sign,'' and it was, ``Well, 
that requires a waiver, because that's not the transit 
authority.''
    And so those--like, even those little things make it so 
hard and so difficult to access, that many Tribes have just 
given up on trying to access those resources at that level. So 
I think that's just one small example.
    I think the other piece that's really interesting in terms 
of direct kind of conflict is a conversation of recapture. And 
we understand that as you're deploying Federal dollars, you 
want to have a way to ensure those dollars are underwritten, or 
as a bank, that you can foreclose, they can take back. But we 
have to recognize that this is on Tribal land. And so you can't 
really foreclose on a property in the same way, because that 
land--it would be similar also to being in a community land 
trust----
    Chair Smith. Right.
    Ms. Wolff. ----is entrusted to the Tribe. And so there are 
things like that that are subtle, but create real, real 
obstacles for Tribes accessing those dollars.
    Chair Smith. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. I 
think that's absolutely right. And too often, I think Federal 
and State agencies treat Tribal governments as if they are, you 
know, some other form of nonprofit or grantee, rather than 
appreciating that Government-to-Government relationship. And so 
it's a real challenge we have to keep working on.
    Ms. Wolff. Yes.
    Chair Smith. Well, I want to thank our witnesses for being 
here today and for providing excellent testimony.
    I want to let my colleagues know--for Senators who wish to 
submit questions for the record, those questions are due 1 week 
from today, which will be Tuesday, April 23rd.
    For our witnesses, you will have 45 days to respond to any 
questions for the record.
    And thank you again. I think we've gotten great input and 
feedback as we think about legislation that we want to move 
forward. So I'm grateful for your testimony.
    And with that, this hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:19 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
    [Prepared statements, responses to written questions, and 
additional material supplied for the record follow:]
                   PREPARED STATEMENT OF JESSE ERGOTT
       President and CEO, NeighborWorks Northeastern Pennsylvania
                             April 16, 2024
    Thank you, Chairwoman Smith, Ranking Member Lummis, and Members of 
the Subcommittee, for the opportunity to testify this morning on the 
challenges our Nation faces with preserving our housing stock. My name 
Jesse Ergott, and I have the privilege of serving as the President and 
CEO of NeighborWorks Northeastern Pennsylvania (NeighborWorks 
Northeastern PA) headquartered in the City of Scranton.
    NeighborWorks Northeastern PA was founded in 1981 by a group of 
local lenders, resident leaders, and officials in the city of Scranton 
specifically to assist modest-income families who were finding it 
difficult to obtain financing for home repairs and improvements. With 
growing instances of blight and neglect in our neighborhoods, a more 
creative approach to providing resources was sorely needed to preserve 
home ownership opportunities for our neighbors. In our early years, our 
work focused on a few target neighborhoods in Scranton and consisted of 
pooling both private capital from various local lending institutions 
and public dollars from the City of Scranton to assist our neighbors 
with paying for and managing critical home repairs.
    Now, 43 years later, NeighborWorks Northeastern PA has an expanded 
geographic footprint including 7 counties throughout the region and 
serves our neighbors in multiple ways, including home ownership 
assistance, foreclosure prevention services, comprehensive community 
development initiatives, aging in place services, and critical home 
repairs. Over the course of our history, we have helped create over 
1,200 new homebuyers, repaired or improved 1,600 homes, provided home 
ownership and financial counseling to thousands of residents, and 
helped to facilitate countless community improvement projects and 
investment valued at over $250 million.
    All this work has been deeply rooted in the following core 
organizational belief that ``Home is Where it All Starts''. We believe 
that having a safe, dignified, and stable place to live leads to better 
health, more financial opportunity, better educational outcomes, and 
other real benefits for individuals, families, and our community.
    We have been supported in this work as a longstanding chartered 
organization in the National NeighborWorks Network and a proud member 
of the National NeighborWorks Association (NNA).
    NeighborWorks America is a private nonprofit organization, 
established by Congress in 1978 as the Neighborhood Reinvestment 
Corporation (P.L. 95-557) to expand opportunities for people to live in 
affordable homes, improve their lives and strengthen their communities. 
NeighborWorks pursues this mission through its support of a network of 
nearly 250 nonprofit housing and community development organizations 
like ours, which provide on-the-ground support to families and 
communities in every State, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. 
The experience of this national network is extremely relevant to 
today's hearing, as our organizations have extensive collective 
experience in various housing preservation efforts. For example, 
NeighborWorks organizations across the country facilitated the repair 
of 82,500 homes in fiscal year 2023 alone.
    Addressing our Nation's significant housing challenges will require 
comprehensive solutions. These challenges touch all types of 
communities--urban, suburban, and rural areas alike, and span all 
income levels. The lack of available housing to meet an individual's 
specific needs can have a ripple effect that negatively impacts 
regional economies, hampers revitalization efforts by local government, 
and can ultimately lead to stagnancy and deterioration of 
neighborhoods.
    Building more affordable housing to increase supply, improving 
access to capital, addressing localized zoning impediments to smart 
community growth, and cutting red tape which currently makes various 
Federal programs difficult to implement are just a few of the 
approaches that are needed. One key element in this continuum of 
strategies needs to be the modernization and preservation of as much of 
our existing housing as possible.
    Deteriorating housing stock can be a root cause of other types of 
community instability and housing insecurity. My testimony speaks to 
creative efforts taking place in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, such 
as the Pennsylvania Whole Home Repairs Program, to invest in the 
preservation of our existing housing stock while also addressing the 
individual needs of our neighbors.
Housing Preservation: The Challenge
    So how did we get here and what are the issues driving the need to 
invest in preserving our housing stock? Although the challenges we face 
in Pennsylvania, and particularly in northeastern Pennsylvania, are 
especially acute due to our aging housing stock and an older 
population, this also means we have a unique opportunity and fertile 
testing ground for policies and solutions that may benefit the rest of 
the Nation.
    Pennsylvania has one of the oldest housing stocks in the country, 
with 26 percent of existing homes built prior to 1939 compared with 12 
percent across the country. \1\ In fact, Pennsylvania's housing stock 
is on average 16 years older than the national average. Housing is even 
older in northeastern Pennsylvania, where in many communities upwards 
of 40 percent of homes were built more than 85 years ago. Most of the 
homes in Pennsylvania are single family structures (76 percent), with 
some rural counties in our region seeing single family dwelling numbers 
closer to 85 percent. Home ownership rates in both Pennsylvania (70 
percent) and our northeastern counties (67 percent) are higher than the 
nationwide average (65 percent).
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     \1\ ``Pennsylvania Comprehensive Housing Study, May 2020. https://
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    As homes age and deteriorate, preservation of housing in many 
communities becomes even more significant due to the nature of the 
housing itself. Although aging, many homes are irreplaceable, meaning 
if the units were lost, they either could not or would not be replaced 
because of a lack of economic incentive to build new single-family 
units in those communities. Likewise, when there is extensive deferred 
maintenance, there can be little to no economic incentive for investors 
to purchase these homes in many markets.
Challenges for Seniors
    Aside from our older housing stock, possibly the most important 
trend shaping housing issues in Pennsylvania is our aging population. 
The statewide population of seniors has increased by 14 percent in the 
last two decades and Pennsylvania is now one of the most elderly States 
in the country, with over 17 percent of its population aged 65 or 
older. The 2020 Census estimates that 18.4 percent of all citizens in 
Lackawanna, Luzerne, and Wayne counties in northeastern Pennsylvania 
are 65 years of age or older, and another 14 percent are considered 
``future seniors'' (aged 55-64). \2\
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     \2\ Aging in Place, The Institute for Public Policy & Economic 
Development, at Wilkes University.
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    The combination of one of the oldest housing stocks in the Nation 
with one of the oldest populations presents a unique challenge, 
especially when it comes to preserving existing housing. Seniors tend 
to own their own homes (76 percent home ownership rate in Pennsylvania) 
\3\ but also live on lower (and many times fixed) incomes, making it 
more challenging to tackle larger repairs or absorbing other increases 
in the cost of their housing (such as taxes, etc.), which ultimately 
increases the likelihood of deferred maintenance for these properties. 
The vast majority of seniors we serve express interest in staying in 
their homes and neighborhoods as they age, and a lack of affordable and 
physically viable housing options in their communities often leaves 
them without other options even should they seek them.
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     \3\ ``Forecasting State and National Trends in Household Formation 
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    Older homes are also more likely to have higher utility costs due 
to insufficient insulation, inefficient windows and doors, and outdated 
heating and cooling systems. In addition, most were not built with ease 
of access in mind, and steep stairs, narrow entryways, high-sided tubs, 
and other similar features often create accessibility barriers for 
homeowners as they age. Ultimately, these older homes often equate to a 
smaller amount of accessible housing with universal design elements 
such as low or no threshold entryways, wider doorways, and walk-in 
showers. A third of Pennsylvanians aged 65 or older have a disability, 
which may require adaptive housing modifications or a move to 
accessible and/or supportive housing.
    To illustrate this issue, I have personally visited several homes 
where the homeowner was restricted to living on their first floor due 
to a lack of ability to get up the stairs safely. This often meant 
sleeping in a chair or on a couch for extended periods of time. And 
without a full bathroom on the first floor, they often ended up sponge-
bathing in their kitchen or bathroom sink.
    In northeastern Pennsylvania, the typical structure we encounter is 
a two-story home which has an entryway with multiple steps, one full 
bathroom upstairs (and perhaps a half-bath on the main level), steep 
and narrow stairways, and a small laundry area in the basement. Homes 
typically have deferred maintenance ranging from a few thousand dollars 
(smaller accessibility improvements and repairs) to over $30,000 for 
significant structural and systems repairs).
    A critical question to ask is how these types of repairs can be 
funded, especially for modest-income working families and seniors on 
limited incomes. Previous data released by The Federal Reserve Bank of 
Philadelphia showed that in northeastern Pennsylvania, 50 percent of 
all requests for conventional home improvement financing were denied 
for low-to-moderate income borrowers. With limited access to private 
capital to help address these much-needed repairs, individuals and 
communities often turn to various Federal, State, and local funding 
sources to address these needs.
Existing Federal Investments in Housing Preservation
    In our experience, only a relatively small amount of funding from 
existing Federal programs which include home rehabilitation as an 
allowable use is utilized for this purpose. For example, the Community 
Development Block Grant (CDBG) program and HOME Investment Partnership 
funds can provide a meaningful amount of resources, but many 
communities opt to use them for other purposes due to the challenges 
involved in utilizing them for home repairs. These programs tend to be 
broad in their potential uses, but onerous in practice and difficult to 
leverage with other resources.
    Specific to HOME funding, the requirement to address all 
deficiencies in a property, instead of just tackling the most critical 
repairs, can lead to putting in an excessive investment of resources 
into one project and diluting their overall impact on an area. These 
requirements were a critical factor in NeighborWorks Northeastern PA 
deciding to discontinue managing HOME-funded owner-occupied rehab 
programs on behalf of the City of Scranton.
    Another example of this is the U.S. Department of Energy's 
Weatherization Assistance Program. This program can provide a 
significant amount of funding to make homes more energy efficient and 
habitable, but other issues in the home including moisture/mold, old 
electrical wiring, roof damage or other structural problems can prevent 
an eligible client from receiving WAP services unless they are able to 
correct the specific problems with other funding.
    These are just a few examples of the barriers that can exist to 
utilizing existing Federal funding to address housing preservation at a 
scale that makes a difference in our communities. Finding ways to 
remove these barriers and incentivize the use of these programs for 
housing preservation would help to leverage and expand other local and 
regional efforts.
A Critical Opportunity: The Whole-Home Repairs Act of 2024
    The Whole-Home Repairs Act, which is based on Pennsylvania's highly 
effective program of the same name, would be a much-needed addition to 
the relatively small list of Federal resources focused on addressing 
housing preservation.
    Pennsylvania's Whole Home Repairs Program received bipartisan 
support due to the universal nature of home repair needs in the 
Commonwealth. Rural, urban, and suburban communities across the State 
all tend to have modest-income homeowners with older housing and 
deferred maintenance needs; it is an issue which is apparent to anyone 
who lives here. Pennsylvania State Senator Nikil Saval, who spearheaded 
its creation, helped to craft a flexible program that could address 
home repairs at scale. Here are some of the major benefits of the 
program model:

  1.  Flexibility. Whereas other funding sources (HOME, CDBG, etc.) 
        tend to have broad potential uses but are restrictive in their 
        uses for home repair, the Whole-Home Repairs Program is 
        specific in its intended use and flexible in its practical 
        implementation. The funding can address any/all issues of 
        habitability, accessibility, energy efficiency, and safety and 
        can be prioritized on at a local (or even a home-by-home) 
        level.

  2.  Maximizing Use. Has the ability to only address the issues that 
        are most critical for safety and stability in the home without 
        needing to tackle every other issue. This helps to maximize the 
        impact of the funds by spreading them out.

  3.  Speed. By eliminating burdensome requirements and red tape, we 
        have found that some projects are often able to be completed in 
        a matter of weeks or even days depending on the circumstance.

  4.  Layering and Leverage. Because of the program's flexibility, the 
        funds are extremely leverageable and can be effectively layered 
        into projects in ways that wouldn't be possible with other 
        Federal funds, ultimately resulting in more creative funding 
        strategies for individual rehabilitation projects and more 
        impact for the program overall.

  5.  Local Strategies and Oversight. By putting the implementation of 
        the program at the local municipal/county level, local leaders 
        can tailor the program to meet the most critical needs of their 
        communities and residents. This autonomy allows administrators 
        to be better stewards of public funds and to build the program 
        into larger local and regional efforts.

  6.  ``Unlocking'' Other Funds. Programs like the Weatherization 
        Assistance Program are not able to fund projects at homes with 
        other significant repair needs. Much time can be lost in 
        evaluating and assessing properties that ultimately cannot be 
        assisted due to the lack of other resources to address the 
        deferral items. The Whole-Home Repairs Program can address 
        these deferrals and leverage other Federal, State, and local 
        investments.

    These factors, along with a backlog of need in many parts of the 
State, contributed to an unprecedented public response to the program. 
Many counties had to close their application process during the first 
few days because they had already reached their maximum project limit. 
The most recent data reported to the Pennsylvania Department of 
Community and Economic, the statewide administrator of the program, 
showed that there are over 16,500 homes currently on waitlists for 
funding across the State.
    I believe these same benefits which are unique to this program 
could be expanded to other areas of the country through the pilot 
program created by the Whole-Home Repairs Act.
Integrating Whole-Home Repairs With Aging in Place Strategies
    In our case, the flexibility of the Whole-Home Repairs Program has 
allowed NeighborWorks Northeastern Pennsylvania to effectively 
integrate it into our comprehensive Aging in Place Program.
    NeighborWorks Northeastern PA's Aging in Place program provides 
homeowners in our region aged 60 and above with services that focus on 
assisting them with continuing to live safely and with dignity in their 
home and community. After over 3 decades of managing various home 
rehabilitation programs utilizing a variety of Federal, State, local 
and private funds, we found that approximately 70 percent of applicants 
requesting assistance were seniors. This ultimately led to a shift in 
our focus to providing home modifications and repairs exclusively to 
seniors over the past 5 years.
    When tackling a project for an older adult, our primary concern is 
to remove any barriers that the homeowner may have to remain in their 
home. Often, we have found that older homeowners have a variety of 
challenges that create instability in their housing situations. We seek 
to take a holistic approach to addressing habitability and 
accessibility to address as many issues as possible to both fix the 
property and preserve or improve the homeowner's health. By taking this 
approach, we have been able to attract significant new health-focused 
public and philanthropic resources to our housing preservation efforts.
    For example, our Aging in Place program has secured a $1 million 
grant from the HUD Older Adult Home Modification Program (OAHMP), an 
additional $1 million from the Administration for Community Living 
(ACL), and ongoing LIHEAP and Medical Assistance (waiver) resources for 
home modifications, energy needs, and accessibility improvements 
through local Area Agencies on Aging. These funds, along with flexible 
resources from Pennsylvania's highly successful Housing Affordability 
and Rehabilitation Enhancement (PHARE) fund, have allowed us to address 
hundreds of home modification and accessibility improvement projects 
across 3 counties. Many of these projects include critical safety 
modifications such as grab bars, wheelchair ramps, bathroom 
modifications, tub cuts, and other accessibility improvements.
    However, home modifications are often only one piece of the puzzle 
when it comes to housing stability. For example, providing an 
accessible bathroom for a homeowner is impactful, but if that same 
homeowner has a leaking roof or major structural issue in their home, 
their housing stability remains threatened. As most other funding 
sources we had access to don't allow for larger structural repairs, the 
Whole-Home Repairs Program was the missing piece for our Aging in Place 
program.
    Now, in addition to providing a bathroom modification, wheelchair 
ramp, or stairlift, we can replace the roof, improve energy efficiency, 
and replace an old furnace. The Whole-Home Repairs Program has allowed 
us to take a comprehensive approach to addressing issues of the whole 
home and as well as the critical needs of the person living in it. 
NeighborWorks Northeastern PA manages a total of approximately $1.2 
million in Whole-Home Repairs Program funding for two counties, and 
these funds are currently helping to stretch and leverage an additional 
$3 million in State, Federal, and philanthropic investments.
    Working with a team of Certified Aging in Place Specialists (CAPS), 
Occupational Therapists, Residential Housing Inspectors, a Construction 
Manager and licensed and reputable constructions teams, we take a 
personal and professional approach to assessing and identifying the 
housing repair and accessibility needs of older adults throughout 
northeastern Pennsylvania. The various assessments conducted by this 
team helps to prioritize the work that needs to be accomplished at the 
home and to identify which funding sources will be layered into the 
project. Projects are then bid out per relevant requirements from the 
various funding sources and/or local municipalities. We have found that 
this model allows us to deploy funding quickly and in a comprehensive 
manner.
    Repairs and improvements address time-sensitive needs like roof 
repairs, accessibility improvements (stairs, porches, entryways, etc.), 
systems replacement (heating/cooling units, water heaters, etc.) and 
unsafe electrical or plumbing conditions. Other improvements focusing 
on the home's long-term habitability are also addressed when possible, 
such as siding, windows, insulation, ventilation systems, and other 
items impacting the home's energy efficiency and overall envelope. Each 
older adult referred to the Aging in Place program to utilize Whole 
Home Repair services is also given access to each of the other services 
offered through the Aging in Place program (small home repair, 
volunteer led repair services, smart home technology, social isolation 
prevention, community resource connection, and financial guidance), all 
of which allow each older adult to continue to reside safely and with 
dignity in their homes and communities.
Whole-Home Repair Success Stories
    The Whole-Home Repairs Program has made a direct and measurable 
impact on our neighbors here in northeastern Pennsylvania, and a small 
sample of success stories are included below.
    In one of our rural counties, the program assisted a family of 
five, comprised of three children and two adults. The father, a 
veteran, struggles with PTSD, and the mother is a postal worker within 
the community. They were in urgent need of various and time-sensitive 
improvements, including a new roof. Through the Whole-Home Repairs 
Program, these major safety concerns were able to be addressed quickly 
and efficiently.
    In another rural county, the program assisted a 64-year-old retiree 
living by herself in an older home which is in good condition except 
for the roof, which is over 30 years old. Her monthly income is 
$3,206.60 from Social Security and retirement benefits. A contractor 
was secured to address the aging roof, and the property was stabilized 
for a total cost of $17,070.
    In Scranton, Mr. and Mrs. Walter Gardner are both in their 80s and 
have lived in their family homestead in the city since 1955. Mr. 
Gardner is a veteran. In early February, NeighborWorks Northeastern PA 
received a call from the Gardners reporting a complete lack of heat in 
their home. A Plumbing and Heating specialist was sent to the home and 
confirmed the furnace had a cracked heat exchanger, necessitating a 
full replacement. It was also relayed that the Gardners' carbon 
monoxide detector was going off and the Scranton Fire Department and 
UGI Utilities were also deployed to the home. The source of the CO 
being emitted into the home was caused by the broken furnace, as 
emissions were escaping through the crack in the heat exchanger rather 
than being ducted out with the exhaust, creating a dangerous situation. 
Due to the availability of Whole Home Repair Funds, NeighborWorks was 
able to facilitate the installation of a new furnace within 5 days from 
that initial phone call, likely preventing even more costly repairs 
from froze pipes and other issues resulting from lack of heat in the 
home. The Gardners received a new Comfort Maker 95 percent Efficient 
Hot Air Furnace utilizing a total of $6,800 of Whole Home Repair 
funding. NeighborWorks was also able to use this situation as an 
opportunity for our Certified Aging in Place Specialist to assess and 
plan for other critical home repairs and safety modifications needed in 
the home
    Another older client we have served resides in the City of 
Carbondale. Despite having replaced a portion of his roof in recent 
years, he had a leaking roof and missing gutters, both of which 
contributed to water infiltration into his home, a deteriorating and 
leaning chimney, and a completely corroded boiler that wasn't working 
properly. We have been able to provide a new boiler for him and repair 
some other plumbing problems and a potentially dangerous ventilation 
issue that he had, in addition to replacing the leaking areas of his 
roof as well as installing gutters where they were missing to minimize 
and/or hopefully eliminate the water infiltration into his home. Whole-
Home Repairs funding allowed us to address all these issues at once.
Conclusion
    We know that safe, dignified, and affordable housing options are 
critical to the health of any community. However, many communities are 
facing shortages across much of the housing continuum, including 
affordable rental units, entry-level homes for first-time homebuyers, 
and accessible dwellings for seniors as they age. These factors and 
others have created an extreme sense of urgency in many communities 
like ours to preserve the housing that exists before it deteriorates 
past the point of economically viable rehabilitation. Passing the 
Whole-Home Repairs Act will be an important first step in providing a 
scaled investment in our Nation's aging housing stock by empowering 
States and municipal governments to address the housing preservation 
needs of their own communities.

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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF ROBIN DAVEY WOLFF
 Senior Director for Rural Communities at Enterprise Community Partners
                             April 16, 2024
    Chair Smith, Ranking Member Lummis, and Members of the 
Subcommittee, thank you for the opportunity to share perspectives on 
the needs related to Affordable Housing Preservation and Home Repair 
with you today.
    My name is Robin Davey Wolff. I am the Senior Director of Rural 
Communities at Enterprise Community Partners, where I work to lift up 
and support the needs of rural housing developers and providers across 
the country. Enterprise is a national nonprofit on a mission to make 
home and community places of pride, power and belonging for all. To 
make that possible, we listen to what our communities need and bring 
everything under one roof to deliver it to them. That means we advocate 
on a nonpartisan basis for sound public policy at every level of 
Government; we develop and deploy programs and support community 
organizations on the ground nationwide; we invest capital to build and 
preserve rental homes; and we own and operate 13,000 apartments and 
provide resident services for 23,000 people.
    This end-to-end approach, combined with more than 40 years of 
experience and thousands of local partners, has enabled Enterprise to 
build and preserve affordable homes nationwide, invest $72 billion in 
communities, and improve millions of lives. This month, we are 
celebrating the one millionth affordable home that Enterprise has 
created and preserved since our founding. Our strategic priorities are 
advancing racial equity, building climate resilience and upward 
mobility, and creating and preserving housing people can afford.
    Enterprise's Tribal Nations and Rural Communities Team has sought 
to support safe, decent, and culturally appropriate housing in rural 
communities and on Tribal lands since 1997. Our commitment to rural and 
Tribal communities is deep: over the last 20 years Enterprise has 
invested more than $1.1 billion in grants, loans and equity, and 
developed more than 40,000 affordable homes in rural communities 
nationwide. Prior to joining Enterprise, I worked for an affordable 
housing developer serving rural communities. I now apply that 
experience to help rural nonprofits, housing authorities, Tribes and 
Tribally Designated Housing Entities (TDHE) preserve and develop 
affordable housing in their communities. Our team offers direct 
technical assistance, training, peer learning sessions, and other 
capacity building services to expand access to home ownership 
opportunities and develop or preserve affordable rural rental homes.
    Much of this work is supported by Federal contracts through the 
Department of Housing and Urban Development's (HUD) Rural Housing and 
Economic Development program, the United States Department of 
Agriculture's (USDA) Rural Community Development Program and the USDA 
515 Technical Assistance Program, through which we are able to support 
affordable housing providers across the country as they work to 
preserve housing at risk of losing affordability due to mortgage 
maturity or prepayment. According to USDA projections, the USDA Section 
515 program, which currently provides stable affordable housing to 
approximately 400,000 low-income rural renters nationwide, is projected 
to lose up to 137,000 affordable-housing units over the next 10 years 
due to mortgage maturities. Work is being done to address this, 
inclusive of the recently approved Rental Decoupling pilot in the 
Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2024 (H.R. 4366) and the Rural Housing 
Service Reform Act (RHSRA), recently introduced legislation that our 
team has worked on in partnership with Senator Smith and Rounds' 
office, which would include various provisions to modernize the USDA 
rural housing programs. That said, these programs and reforms alone are 
not adequate to stave off the loss of affordability we are facing 
nationally.
    In this testimony, I will discuss (1) The need for housing 
preservation; (2) The challenges communities across the country are 
facing as they work to preserve existing affordable housing; (3) The 
need for affordable single-family preservation and home repair 
programs; (4) The Enterprise approach to address housing preservation 
challenges; and (5) Ways congress can take action to support the 
preservation and production of affordable housing.
The Need for Housing Preservation
    The country is in the middle of an affordable housing crisis. 
Communities across the country are losing a vital source of the 
existing affordable housing supply faster than new affordable units can 
be developed. With each year that passes, more mortgages and 
affordability restrictions expire, and countless nonrestricted 
properties are lost to the market, making more homes unaffordable. It 
is not possible to build new homes fast enough to make up for those 
that are being lost. We must prioritize affordable housing preservation 
in addition to new construction. Depending on the level of 
rehabilitation needs, preservation can often be faster and more cost 
effective than new construction.
    Harvard's Joint Center for Housing Studies published a report 
stating that since 2012, the market has lost more than 2.1 million 
units renting for less than $600 and 4.0 million units renting for $600 
to $999. During the same period, the market gained 8.4 million units 
renting for at least $1,400, driven by rent increases and high-end new 
construction. Not only have rents risen, but they have outpaced incomes 
over the last two decades. Among renter households with an annual 
income under $30,000, the median amount of money left over after paying 
for rent and utilities was just $310 a month. \1\
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     \1\ Joint Center for Housing Studies of Harvard University, 
``America's Rental Housing 2024'', 2024, https://www.jchs.harvard.edu/
americas-rental-housing-2024.
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    Data from the 2022 American Community Survey (ACS) supports this 
and clearly shows that newer properties are more expensive than older 
ones. More specifically, the most recently built rental units (those 
built in 2020 and later) command a 35 percent premium over the median, 
and even properties built in the 2010s are 24 percent more expensive on 
average than the median rental unit. \2\ Older properties are at risk 
of being acquired and upgraded above the point of affordability.
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     \2\ Ibid.
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The Benefits of Housing Preservation
    Preservation is often more cost-effective than new construction and 
avoids significant changes to the existing built environment, 
mitigating community concerns over neighborhood change that can stall 
or prevent new affordable development. It should be further noted that 
preservation directly affects some of our lowest income and most 
vulnerable populations. Displacement of renters in subsidized units 
that lose their restriction and subsidies are at far greater risk of 
homelessness or living in unsafe conditions.
    Targeted resources, programs, and policies are critical to maintain 
the existing affordability of multifamily properties and mitigate the 
risk that they will be lost permanently from the affordable housing 
supply. Once affordable units are lost, they are very difficult and 
cost prohibitive to replace, risking the displacement of long-time 
residents.
The Challenge of Preserving Multifamily Housing Stock
    Many existing affordable rental homes are in small- to medium-
multifamily (SMMF) properties (defined as having between 2 and 49 
units). In fact, this housing stock is the largest single source of 
housing affordable to low-income households.
    The 2022 ACS data tells us that 23 million SMMF units exist in the 
U.S., and 87 percent of those units are occupied by renters. 80 percent 
of SMMF units are affordable to households with incomes at or below 80 
percent AMI. \3\ This represents 52 percent of all affordable housing 
in the country. 95 percent of these units receive no Federal project-
based subsidy. Of the 996,000 SMMF units that are subsidized, about 22 
percent are set to expire by 2027. \4\
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     \3\ Enterprise Community Partners calculations of 2022 1-year 
American Community Survey, as provided by IPUMS USA, University of 
Minnesota, www.ipums.org. AMI is calculated based on HUD Section 8 
income limit data for the applicable year.
     \4\ Ibid.
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    Market pressures and disinvestment pose significant threats to this 
housing stock. There is limited financing to keep properties 
affordable. Without robust investment in this housing, residents are at 
risk of eviction, displacement, and homelessness.
    The Low-Income Housing Tax Credit (Housing Credit), which is our 
Nation's most effective tool for the development of affordable rental 
housing, is oversubscribed and requires improvements to better address 
the needs of smaller properties. A program that does not rely on tax 
credits and that prioritizes preservation presents an opportunity to 
slow the loss of affordable units, provide stability for low, moderate, 
and very low-income residents who live in these homes, keep communities 
intact by combating residential and cultural displacement, and deepen 
the impact of all affordable housing strategies.
Single-Family Preservation and Home Repair
    On the single-family side, including Home Repair in this 
conversation is crucial and appreciated. The impact of a well-run home 
repair program can prevent utility shut offs, foreclosure, and 
homeowner displacement. The need for single family home repair is 
especially true in rural communities where we see higher rates of home 
ownership than the national average (73 percent vs. national average of 
65 percent).
    Single-family housing in rural communities is, in general, older 
stock which is more likely to have deferred maintenance and capital 
needs that should be addressed. This is particularly true for 
households living in manufactured homes, which make up a significant 
portion of housing for lower-income families living in rural 
communities. \5\
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     \5\ Housing Assistance Council, ``Rural Research Brief'', July 
2020, https://ruralhome.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Manufactured-
Housing-RRB.pdf.
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    Homeowners often feel stuck when they try to address the needed 
repairs. The market simply does not work for people living on low or 
fixed incomes. Costs of labor and materials are high, driving up the 
average cost of a home repair project and conventional loans are at 
high rates, which makes funding needed repairs more expensive. This is 
true even when there is significant equity in the home.
    We must continue to identify new strategies to meet the needs of 
vulnerable homeowners beyond the existing offerings. In rural 
communities the USDA 504 Home Repair program, which provides subsidized 
loans and grants for seniors over the age of 62, is useful but often 
does not allow for enough funding to get homeowners to where they need 
to be when it comes to truly safe and decent housing. This source can 
be leveraged with other sources. Many States and localities operate 
home repair programs funded with HUD's Community Development Block 
Grant (CDBG) program or the HOME Investment Partnership (HOME) program 
funds, for instance. New programs should leverage these existing 
programs to allow for more significant or comprehensive repairs.
The Enterprise Approach
    Enterprise Community Partners has decades of experience supporting 
repair of small properties and preserving affordable rental housing.
    Enterprise deploys capital to produce new housing, preserve 
existing affordable housing and build the capacity of our partner 
organizations. In the preservation realm, Enterprise supports the 
acquisition, rehabilitation, and refinancing of affordable housing, in 
addition to providing grants that support nonprofit partners' 
preservation efforts. Over the last 10 years, Enterprise has invested 
more than $6.6 billion in the preservation of affordable housing, which 
accounts for 54 percent of Enterprise's total investment in affordable 
housing and n has ensured the continued affordability of 140,000 homes.
    Enterprise cochairs the ``A Call To Invest in Our Neighborhoods'' 
(ACTION) campaign, a coalition of over 2,400 of local, State, and local 
organizations and businesses advocating working together to protect, 
expand, and strengthen the Housing Credit. Part of the coalition's 
advocacy has been focused on the bipartisan, bicameral Affordable 
Housing Credit Improvement (AHCIA) Act. This legislation would not only 
increase the supply of Housing Credit developments but would also 
streamline the program to better meet the needs of rural communities, 
veterans, seniors, Native Americans, and extremely low-income families. 
Ultimately, strengthening and expanding the program is foundational to 
advancing racial equity and economic mobility for low-income Americans 
across the country.
City and Regional Solutions:
    Enterprise Advisors and market teams work with cities and regions 
to develop comprehensive housing strategies that address the unique 
housing challenges in that location. Based on complex data analysis, 
stakeholder interviews and expertise in affordable housing programs, 
Enterprise helps develop preservation strategies that are tailored to 
individual communities, such as an emphasis on the preservation of 
Naturally Occurring Affordable Housing (NOAH) or the development of 
preservation-related funds.
Support for Community-Based Organizations, Developers, and Landlords:
    Enterprise supports existing property owners to improve the 
financial health, resiliency, and sustainability of their properties so 
they can continue to provide affordable homes for local communities.
    Preservation grants support either organizational infrastructure or 
project redevelopment. To strengthen partners' organizational 
infrastructure, Enterprise builds organizations' current staffing, 
software, and professional development models, and provides the 
operating capital necessary to effectively pursue preservation.
    Through project redevelopment grants, Enterprise supports the 
actual redevelopment of existing real estate by assisting with 
predevelopment expenses, staffing, consultants, or capital.
Training and Resources:
    Through the Rural Rental Housing Preservation Academy and the 
Preservation Next Training Academy, Enterprise organizes a series of 
training sessions for affordable housing developers across the county 
and advocates to acquire, rehab, and stabilize affordable homes and 
prevent resident displacement.
    Enterprise also provides online resources, information, and tools 
to help:

    Developers acquire, rehab, and preserve affordable homes

    Practitioners and advocates to understand preservation 
        opportunities and advocate for resources and policies

    Existing owners and operators to improve the stability and 
        sustainability of their properties
Policy Advocacy:
    Enterprise works with a broad range of public and private partners 
to advocate for policies at the local, State, and national levels that:

    Protect, expand, and improve tenant protections

    Replicate best practices and policies in eviction 
        prevention

    Increase resources to enable the acquisition and 
        preservation of affordable housing by mission-minded owners and 
        residents
Investing in Healthy, Sustainable, and Resilient Homes:
    Properties that are currently affordable and that need 
preservation, both subsidized and unsubsidized, are often older and 
suffering from deferred maintenance. Preservation can address unmet and 
ongoing capital needs and repairs that affect health, safety, and 
sustainability.
    More than 38,000 homes have been created or rehabilitated to meet 
the Enterprise Green Communities Criteria since its inception in 2004. 
When buildings meet energy efficiency standards, both property owners 
and tenants can see savings in their utility costs, which improves the 
affordability of the property.
Home Repair Programs
    Enterprise is leading Home-Repair programs in several markets 
across the country:
        Detroit Home Repair

        Enterprise Community Partners serves as manager of the Detroit 
        Home Repair Program, which is a $20M initiative providing no 
        cost support to low-income households in Detroit. The program, 
        which aims to support 1,000 households, has a waiting list of 
        over 14,000. To date, over $4.3MM has been in deployed for 
        repairs in over 200 homes, including $1.2MM in energy-
        efficiency and weatherization measures. The University of 
        Michigan estimates that 37,630 Detroit households live in 
        inadequate conditions (exposed wiring, broken furnaces) and 
        local program sponsors estimate total repairs costs at well 
        over $5B. It is this type of local work and knowledge that 
        highlights the need for additional focus and resources, like 
        those outlined in the Whole-Home Repairs Act of 2024 led by 
        Senator Fetterman, that could be leveraged to meet the existing 
        needs of the communities where we work.

        Lead Safe Cleveland Coalition and Home Fund

        Enterprise is a founding member and program manager of Lead 
        Safe Cleveland and its $45M Fund which aims to implement lead 
        safe practices in over 40,000 rental properties throughout the 
        city.

        Make It Home Cleveland

        Enterprise and the City of Cleveland with others is piloting a 
        repair and purchase program for Cleveland homeowners who live 
        in tax forfeited properties. The program aims to work with 50 
        households in 2024.
Actions Needed From Congress
    We urge Congress to continue its commitment to supporting 
affordable housing and community development efforts by enacting 
critically needed legislation, most of which has bipartisan support, 
which would expand existing programs or else create new programs where 
there are gaps in the housing and community development financing 
ecosystem.
Support Production and Preservation of Affordable Housing
        (1) Enact the Rural Housing Service Reform Act (RHSRA) (S. 
        2790)

        RHSRA is a bipartisan and bicameral bill introduced by Chair 
        Smith and Senator Mike Rounds and would help preserve rural 
        affordable rental housing and expand home ownership 
        opportunities for Native communities This legislation does this 
        by improving the tools that USDA has available to address the 
        housing preservation crisis that USDA faces by allowing for 
        decoupling of rental assistance from USDA multifamily mortgages 
        to ensure families living in USDA-financed properties are not 
        cut off from rental assistance. Furthermore, the legislation 
        would improve rural vouchers by allowing the value to change 
        based on the fluctuations in tenant income and unit rent 
        levels, and by expanding its use to tenants in properties with 
        maturing mortgages. The bill would also allow for funding to 
        improve the agency's capacity through additional staffing and 
        upgrading of outdated technology that the agency uses. This 
        bill also would make the highly successful USDA Section 502 
        Native CDFI Relending Program, Multifamily Preservation and 
        Revitalization Program, Multifamily Transfer Technical 
        Assistance Program, and the Rural Community Development 
        Initiative permanent. Finally, the bill will raise outdated 
        funding caps, bring multifamily foreclosure process in line 
        with those at HUD, increase data transparency, and require 
        studies on the efficacy of programs.

        (2) Enact the Affordable Housing Credit Improvement Act (AHCIA, 
        S. 1557)

        This legislation, sponsored by Senators Maria Cantwell (D-WA) 
        and Todd Young (R-IN), has 34 cosponsors, including leads, 
        split evenly between Democrats and Republicans. The bill has 
        several financing provisions that will expand production and 
        preservation of affordable housing. It also includes several 
        dozen provisions that would enable State Housing Credit 
        agencies to strengthen program administration. Some of the 
        changes would update rules to improve access for veterans, 
        students, and victims of domestic violence and human 
        trafficking. We have never seen an affordable housing 
        production bill with such deep and widespread support in 
        Congress, and this is by far the most important piece of 
        legislation we can enact to help put a dent in our current 
        housing crisis. The AHCIA will create or preserve close to 2 
        million additional affordable rental homes over the next 
        decade.

        (3) Enact Housing Credit provisions in the House-passed Tax 
        Relief for American Families and Workers Act of 2024 (H.R. 
        7024)

        We are excited to see that two key provisions of the AHCIA Act 
        were included in the bipartisan and House-passed tax package, 
        the Tax Relief for American Families and Workers Act of 2024. 
        This bill would make it easier to finance affordable rental 
        housing in two key ways: it would restore the 12.5 percent 
        increase to the 9 Percent Credit, which expired in 2021, from 
        2023 (retroactively) until 2025, and it would lower the 50 
        percent Private Activity Bond (PAB) threshold for the 4 Percent 
        Credit to 30 percent for 2 years. Together, the provisions 
        could finance an estimated 200,000 additional affordable homes 
        nationwide through new development and preservation; generate 
        over $34 billion in wages and businesses income; support over 
        304,000 jobs; and generate nearly $12 billion in Federal, 
        State, and local tax revenue. \6\
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     \6\ Enterprise Community Partners, ``A Crucial Moment for the 
Housing Credit and the Future of Affordable Housing'' February 2024, 
https://www.enterprisecommunity.org/blog/crucial-moment-housing-credit-
and-future-affordable-housing.

        (4) Enact the New Markets Tax Credit (NMTC) Extension Act of 
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        2023 (S. 234)

        This bipartisan legislation introduced by Senators Ben Cardin 
        (D-MD) and Steve Daines (R-MT) would permanently authorize the 
        NMTC program (which is set to expire in 2025) at $5 billion per 
        year--adjusted annually for inflation--and exempt investments 
        in the credit from the Alternative Minimum Tax. NMTCs are 
        predominantly used to support commercial revitalization, 
        businesses, and community facilities in lower-income 
        communities, and are one of the most effective of all Federal 
        economic and redevelopment programs--spurring over $120 billion 
        of total investments in distressed communities and creating 
        over 1 million jobs to date.
        While the NMTC is not intended be used to support residential 
        rental properties, some NMTC investments have nonetheless 
        supported housing activities--principally through investments 
        in mixed-use commercial redevelopment projects that include on-
        site housing, and to a lesser extent, home ownership 
        activities. The Treasury Department indicates that the NMTC has 
        helped to finance over 18,000 affordable homes.

        (5) Enact the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act (NHIA, S. 657)

        This bipartisan legislation reintroduced by Senators Cardin and 
        Young would create a Neighborhood Homes Tax Credit (NHTC), 
        which would spur the renovation or development of one- to four-
        unit homes in once-thriving urban, suburban, and rural 
        communities that now have distressed, blighted neighborhoods 
        and low home ownership rates.
        Modeled after the Housing Credit, the NHTC would cover the 
        ``value gap'' between the cost of building or renovating a home 
        and the market-rate price at which it can be sold to low- and 
        middle-income homebuyers. This credit would provide low- and 
        middle-income households with more equitable opportunities for 
        home ownership and upward economic mobility. If enacted, the 
        NHTC could finance the construction or renovation of an 
        estimated 500,000 homes over the next decade.

        (6) Tax-Exempt Controlled Entity Issue

        An issue has arisen with regard to the proper interpretation of 
        an arcane provision of the tax code designed to prevent tax-
        exempt entities from indirectly benefiting from tax incentives 
        provided to taxable entities who either lease property to, or 
        are in partnership with, tax-exempt entities. Because of the 
        Preferred Stock Purchase Agreements between the Treasury 
        Department and the GSEs, some lawyers for Housing Credit 
        investors have been questioning whether the GSEs, which pay 
        taxes, could be considered TECEs, because Treasury is a tax-
        exempt entity that controls the GSEs. This interpretation has 
        caused concern among Members of Congress, and a bipartisan 
        group of 20 Senators sent a letter in June to Sec. Yellen 
        requesting clear guidance on the issue. Otherwise, rural areas 
        could be particularly devastated, as the GSEs invest 
        significantly in these areas, and Housing Credit investments in 
        these communities could dry up.
        The potential application of this law to Fannie Mae and Freddie 
        Mac is interfering with their ability to invest in Housing 
        Credit properties because the law would require slower 
        depreciation and loss of certain energy and rehabilitation tax 
        credits. GSE Housing Credit investments help the GSEs fulfill 
        their Duty to Serve requirements set by FHFA, bringing capital 
        to underserved markets, including rural multifamily housing. If 
        this issue does not get resolved, investments by State and 
        local equity funds could also be negatively impacted.
        We request that congress encourage the Treasury Department to 
        provide clear guidance on this tax issue so that GSE capital 
        can begin flowing again to underserved rural areas.

        (7) Enact the Stop Predatory Investment Act (S. 2224)

        This legislation would preserve the affordable housing stock by 
        restricting tax breaks for large institutional investors 
        purchasing single-family homes to convert to rentals and 
        incentivizing affordable rental housing and the construction of 
        new housing supply. Enterprise supports this legislation led by 
        Committee Chair Sherrod Brown (D-OH) and Members of the 
        Subcommittee.

        (8) Enact the Native American Housing Assistance and Self-
        Determination Reauthorization Act of 2023 (S. 2285)

        The Native American Housing and Self Determination Act of 1996 
        (NAHASDA) was the first instance of Congress recognizing that 
        the United States' trust responsibility to Tribal Nations 
        includes ``working with Tribes and their members to improve 
        their housing conditions and socioeconomic status.''
        To meet this responsibility, NAHASDA created the Indian Housing 
        Block Grant (IHBG) and eliminated the ability of Tribes to 
        access almost all other HUD programs, such as Housing Choice 
        Vouchers, HOME, and public housing operating fund dollars.
        However, the authorization for NAHASDA last expired in 2013, 
        leaving necessary improvements unaddressed. While last year's 
        appropriations saw the largest increase for the IHBG program, 
        funding level remained flat in inflation-adjusted dollars from 
        2011-2021 and has been a decreasing percentage of the HUD 
        budget since its creation. Enterprise supports as much 
        increased funding for the IHBG as possible, and the passage of 
        the Native American Housing Assistance and Self-Determination 
        Act of 2023.

        (9) Enact increased appropriations and modernizations of key 
        housing and community development programs

        Section 4

        HUD's Section 4 Capacity Building for Community Development and 
        Affordable Housing (Section 4) program enhances the technical 
        and administrative capacity of community development 
        corporations and community housing development organizations 
        (CHDOs) so they can help strengthen rural and urban communities 
        across the Nation by developing affordable housing, financing 
        small businesses, revitalizing commercial corridors and helping 
        address local health care, childcare, education, and safety 
        needs. These organizations are critical stakeholders in 
        community development, working in neighborhoods across the 
        country to address unique challenges and provide critical 
        services that create jobs and enhance economic opportunity. An 
        example of a successful public-private partnership, Section 4 
        leverages more than $20 for every $1 invested by the Federal 
        Government, making it very cost-effective. Enterprise urges 
        Congress to provide at least $50 million in annual 
        appropriations for the Section 4 Program to ensure these 
        community development organizations can further expand their 
        important work.

        The HOME Program

        No program is better suited to address the wide range of 
        housing challenges we face as a Nation than HOME, which is our 
        country's most flexible and proven affordable housing program 
        for delivering resources to urban, suburban, and rural 
        communities. Not only is HOME central to efforts that combat 
        the affordable rental housing crisis, but it also meets 
        critical home ownership needs by allowing States and localities 
        to provide downpayment assistance to creditworthy homebuyers, 
        lower mortgage interest rates and assist with homeowner 
        rehabilitation. Enterprise urges Congress to provide the 
        highest possible funding levels for HOME in appropriations 
        legislation. We also urge Congress to enact the HOME Investment 
        Partnerships Reauthorization and Improvement Act (S. 3644) led 
        by Senator Cortez Masto which would reauthorize and modernize 
        the HOME program.

        The CDBG Program

        CDBG is a critical resource for communities nationwide to 
        invest in low- and moderate-income neighborhoods, producing and 
        preserving homeowner and rental housing, providing fundamental 
        infrastructure, vital public services and public improvements 
        and spurring economic development and public-private 
        partnerships at the local level. The flexible nature of these 
        funds also allows them to address a wide range of challenges 
        faced by both small rural towns and major metropolitan areas, 
        making it an effective tool for localities in their effort to 
        stabilize and maintain affordable housing and vibrant 
        communities. These funds are commonly also used for water and 
        sewer, sidewalks, and other community enhancement projects. 
        Enterprise encourages Congress to provide the highest possible 
        funding for CDBG in appropriations legislation.

        USDA Rural Housing Service Programs

        USDA's Rural Housing Service (RHS) programs are vital to rural 
        communities. The USDA Section 515, USDA Section 514/516, 
        Section 521 Rental Assistance Programs, Multifamily 
        Preservation and Revitalization Program, provide critical 
        affordable rental housing throughout rural America. The 515 
        Multifamily Transfer Technical Assistance Program helps 
        communities preserve the rental stock. RHS programs that 
        support affordable home ownership include the USDA 523 Mutual 
        Self Help Program, 502 direct loan and guaranteed loan programs 
        and the 504 Home Repair Program provide tremendous opportunity 
        for rural residents. The Rural Community Development Initiative 
        works to build capacity of housing providers in rural 
        communities. Enterprise urges Congress to provide robust 
        funding for USDA Rural Housing Service programs in the upcoming 
        fiscal year.

        HUD's Native American Programs

        The Indian Housing Block Grant (IHBG) program is one of the 
        only dedicated sources of housing construction, rehabilitation 
        of rental assistance funding available to Tribal Nations, who 
        do not receive money from programs like HOME or Housing Choice 
        Vouchers. Enterprise urges Congress to provide increased 
        funding for the formula and competitive grants.

        Community Development Financial Institutions (CDFI) Fund

        CDFIs are an essential tool for delivering needed capital to 
        historically underserved areas, financing a range of activities 
        from consumer and small business credit to affordable housing 
        and community projects that support health and education. 
        Providing better access to debt relief, working capital, and 
        consumer loans to small business and nonprofit borrowers 
        through CDFIs increases the capacity for economic growth and 
        opportunity that would not otherwise be available in some of 
        our Nation's most distressed communities. Enterprise urges 
        Congress to allocate robust funding for the CDFI Fund in annual 
        appropriations to continue providing transformative resources 
        to vulnerable communities.

        Capital Magnet Fund

        Enterprise continues to support efforts to increase and 
        preserve the Capital Magnet Fund (CMF). This critical resource 
        provides flexible funds to attract private investment into 
        developing, preserving, rehabilitating, or purchasing 
        affordable single-family and rental housing properties. CMF 
        award recipients must leverage their award with other sources 
        of capital, and the leveraged amount must be at least 10 times 
        the CMF award amount, although in practice it has been 20 times 
        or greater. The CMF program has awarded grants totaling nearly 
        $1.1 billion to CDFIs and qualified nonprofit organizations and 
        of reported projects, awardees have attracted nearly $13.3 
        billion in total leverage. Recipients have 5 years to complete 
        projects after receiving an award. As of September 30, 2022, 
        awardees reported supporting 37,650 affordable rental housing 
        units, 5,500 affordable home ownership units, and several 
        community service facility projects, such as health care and 
        other community facilities that are located near affordable 
        housing.
        This public-private partnership is a critical source of funding 
        for CDFIs and nonprofit housing developers financing affordable 
        housing and related economic activities. The CMF program is 
        funded through a very small, annual assessment fee on new 
        business revenues generated by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. This 
        funding source must be protected, with any subsequent reforms 
        of the housing finance system ensuring a continued supply of 
        funding for this program. Enterprise also urges Congress to 
        work with Treasury to encourage streamlining and additional 
        flexibilities in the program.

        Preservation and Reinvestment Initiative for Community 
        Enhancement (PRICE) Program

        The PRICE program is a competitive grant program for housing 
        residents and communities to preserve and revitalize 
        manufactured housing and eligible manufactured housing 
        communities. The program was first funded in FY23 and received 
        additional funding in FY24. The program provides resources to 
        support residents of manufactured housing through repairs and 
        rehabilitation of homes. Eligible uses of funds include 
        infrastructure, planning, resident and community services 
        (including relocation assistance and eviction prevention), 
        resiliency activities (defined as reconstruction, repair, or 
        replacement to protect the health and safety of manufactured 
        housing residents and to address weatherization and energy 
        efficiency needs), and assistance for land and site 
        acquisition. Enterprise urges Congress to provide robust 
        funding for this program and to continue to work with HUD to 
        ensure that the program remains effective for tenants of 
        manufactured housing and manufactured housing communities. We 
        also support the passage of the Preservation and Reinvestment 
        Initiative for Community Enhancement Act led by Senators Cortez 
        Masto, Shaheen, and Smith, which would permanently authorize 
        the program.

        Public Housing Capital Fund

        Public Housing remains one the largest source of affordable 
        housing for low-income families, the elderly, and persons with 
        disabilities. With nearly 900,000 units across all 50 States, 
        which is why is it important that Congress provide increased 
        funding to the Public Housing Capital Fund. The Capital Fund 
        provides funds to Public Housing Agencies for the development, 
        financing, and modernization of public housing developments. 
        Due to underfunding and disinvestment in Public Housing, it is 
        estimated that the backlog of public housing capital needs is 
        more than $70 billion. Enterprise urges Congress to provide 
        increased funding to the Public Housing Capital Fund and to 
        continue to support other forms of Public Housing preservation 
        such as the Rental Assistance Demonstration (RAD) program. 
        Enterprise thanks Committee Chair Scott for his leadership on 
        the ROAD to Housing Act. We particularly appreciate the 
        provision to expand the RAD program as a means to help 
        modernize and preserve affordable housing units, provided there 
        are appropriate tenant protections.
Conclusion
    While we do need more housing supply, we simply cannot build our 
way out of our housing crisis. Preservation of affordable housing is 
necessary to address the critical lack of affordable housing. We are 
rapidly losing affordable units, and there is a profound need for more 
targeted tools, resources, and policies to mitigate and prevent the 
risk of loss of affordable properties. Preserving existing affordable 
housing is both cost-effective and crucial for maintaining and 
increasing the supply of affordable homes. Preservation also provides 
housing stability and prevents displacement of existing residents and 
families, homeowners and renters alike.
    We at Enterprise are committed to finding solutions and helping the 
organizations on the ground preserve and develop housing in their 
communities. The preservation of affordable housing is a critical 
component of Enterprise's strategy to connect low-income households to 
opportunity. Affordable housing helps households avoid housing cost 
burden and contributes to housing stability, creating positive outcomes 
that can last for generations.
    I am appreciative of the opportunity to share my experiences and 
perspectives today. On behalf of Enterprise Community Partners, I would 
like to thank the Committee, and especially Chair Smith and Ranking 
Member Lummis for their leadership on rural and Tribal housing issues, 
as well as their bipartisan cooperation on issues that affect so many 
Americans in every corner of the country. I hope that the conversations 
we have today will bring more attention to the needs surrounding 
housing preservation and home repair--in addition to the other critical 
housing and community development bills addressed in this testimony and 
that together we make home and community places of pride, power, and 
belonging for all.
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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF CHRISTOPHER VOLZKE
   Deputy Executive Director, Wyoming Community Development Authority
                             April 16, 2024
Introduction
    Chair Smith, Ranking Member Lummis, and Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the opportunity to testify today about the Challenges in 
Preserving the U.S. Housing Stock. I am Christopher Volzke, Deputy 
Executive Director of the Wyoming Community Development Authority. 
Since 1975, the WCDA has been championing affordable housing in 
Wyoming. WCDA was created by State statute, as an instrumentality of 
the State, for the purpose of raising capital to finance affordable 
housing. WCDA receives no State funding. WCDA's largest housing program 
is the Single-Family Mortgage Purchase Program for first-time 
homebuyers. In addition to its single-family programs, WCDA currently 
administers five major Federal housing and community development 
programs: the Low-income Housing Tax Credit (LIHTC) Program, the 
National Housing Trust Fund (NHTF) Program, the HOME Investment 
Partnerships Program (HOME), the Community Development Block Grant 
Program (CDBG), and the HOME Investment Partnerships American Rescue 
Plan Program (HOME-ARP). Together, these five Federal programs have 
funded more than 5,500 units of affordable rental and home ownership 
housing across the State, along with dozens of water, sewer, and other 
public infrastructure projects.
    I am grateful for the opportunity to speak about housing, and 
specifically from a rural housing lens, which can be overlooked during 
national scope conversations. I'd like to structure this testimony to 
discuss Wyoming-specific and rural housing needs, provide demographic 
and supporting examples, and finish with contemplation over the role of 
certain pieces of legislation.
    In the aftermath of the Great Recession, construction of new for-
ownership homes has not kept up with demand. As a result, our Nation's 
stock of for-ownership housing is aging. According to the American 
Community Survey, the median age of owner-occupied homes in the United 
States is 40 years old. A little less than half of the owner-occupied 
homes were built before 1980, and around 35 percent were built before 
1970.
    As homes get older, they require necessary repairs and upgrades to 
remain habitable. Unfortunately, many working families have trouble 
accessing affordable financing to pay for such projects. I applaud 
Ranking Member Lummis for acting to tackle this issue when you 
introduced with Senator John Fetterman the Whole-Home Repairs Act of 
2024 (S. 3871), which would establish a whole-repair grant program for 
low-and moderate-income homeowners.
Wyoming
    Moving to a more local perspective, the State of housing in Wyoming 
is complex, expensive, and lacking. The WCDA recently published a 
Statewide Housing Needs Assessment. \1\ It is a lengthy report, 300 
pages, which further illustrates the point that this is not a problem 
we can solve with one silver bullet. Rather it is a complex set of 
dials, each needing to be adjusted until we can collectively bring 
about change.
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     \1\ https://www.wyomingcda.com/demographics/
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Summary of Key Housing Datapoints in Wyoming:

    Housing Supply: Current housing needs indicate the State 
        has over 50,000 households under 100 percent Area Median Income 
        (AMI) with at least one housing problem including cost burden, 
        \2\ overcrowding, \3\ lack of complete kitchen facilities, or 
        lack of complete plumbing facilities. In addition, as the State 
        is projected to experience moderate population growth in the 
        coming years and between 2021 and 2030, the State will need to 
        add between 20,700 and 38,600 additional units of housing.
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     \2\ Cost burden is defined by HUD as a monthly housing cost 
(including utilities) exceeding 30 percent of monthly income and severe 
cost burden is monthly housing costs (including utilities) exceeding 50 
percent of monthly income.
     \3\ Overcrowding is defined by HUD as more than 1 person per room 
and severe overcrowding is defined as more than 1.5 persons per room.

    Rental Market: The rental market experienced an increase in 
        the amount of cost burdened households overall from 32 percent 
        in 2010 to 38 percent in 2021. Among households with incomes 
        between $20,000 and $35,000, the increase was from 41 percent 
        in 2010 to 67 percent in 2021 and among households with income 
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        between $35,000 and $50,000, from 13 percent to 35 percent.

    Home Ownership Market: The typical home value is 
        unaffordable to households earning the median income in every 
        county in Wyoming in 2023. In addition, 44 percent or close to 
        1 out of every 2 homes was sold to someone making 151 percent 
        of the AMI. While only 1 out of 4 homes sold went to someone in 
        the middle band of 80 percent-120 percent AMI and those making 
        less than 80 percent AMI were limited to 12 percent of home 
        sales.

    Demographic Trends: The population of Wyoming is aging; the 
        proportion of individuals aged 65 and over has risen from 12 
        percent in 2010 to 17 percent in 2021. This demographic is 
        expected to increase by another 40 percent+ by 2030. The 
        percentage of seniors living alone is greater than 1 out of 10 
        Wyomingites (12 percent). It is crucial to prepare for the 
        growth of that population because they are more likely to 
        require housing accessibility modifications, in-home care, 
        meals, transportation, health services, and institutional care 
        facilities.

    When discussing challenges to housing preservation, the 
conversation can differ based upon what definition we are discussing. 
The first way of looking at preservation is the affordable nature of 
the stock. This is a focus to keep affordable housing that is 
restricted or naturally occurring, exactly that, affordable. The second 
conversation is the actual preservation of the physical unit itself. 
The question becomes, as units age, does the owner have the ability to 
maintain or adapt the housing as needed.
    Typical in Federal rental programs such as LIHTC, HOME, or NHTF is 
at a certain point after the affordability period has run its course, 
the rental community needs large capital inputs to be rehabilitated. We 
have a process for that. By using those same Federal programs in a way 
that can infuse the necessary capital back into the project, we can 
ensure it is rehabilitated to quality and safe standards for the 
tenant, the project has the capital health it needs to operate, and it 
is locked back into a new affordability period--thus achieving the end 
goal of preserving the affordable rental stock. By way of example, in 
my own backyard of Casper, we have partnered with the Wyoming Housing 
Network to use HOME funds to rehabilitate 127 units. This project 
included elements such as shoring up foundations, asbestos mitigation, 
stair access repair, and full interior updates. The rehabilitated units 
will now extend the life of the property and improve the health and 
well-being of the people living there, all while remaining part of our 
affordable housing stock.
    Similarly, single family ownership properties eventually age. We 
have aging housing stock in Wyoming with 32 percent of inventory built 
over 50 years ago (pre-1970) and 66 percent built prior to 1990. They 
need new roofs, furnaces, and windows. Also, the needs of the owner may 
have changed, and conditions for accessibility become a needed upgrade 
for homeowners to age in place. This is a real concern, as demographics 
data in Wyoming demonstrate that the disability rate in the State is 
12.9 percent, with the rate of disability increasing with age. For 
people over the age of 75, the rate of disability exceeds 48 percent.
    As we transition to the discussion around rural capacity, it hits 
home as I come from a fifth generation farming and ranching family with 
roots in rural South Dakota. Rural areas, especially those isolated 
from major cities, face difficulties accessing technical expertise and 
incur high costs for material transport, while also making it 
challenging to attract developers for their smaller-scale housing 
needs. It is common for many smaller municipalities to have part-time 
city positions. A city manager, clerk, or even mayor, can be a part-
time position while they work their full-time career outside of city 
administration. This creates a barrier for rural municipalities to 
fully participate in the process when programs become available. Part 
of the equation for funding needs to include adequate technical 
assistance to help rural communities to navigate rules that they may 
not be familiar with. Otherwise, even a well-funded program may not be 
properly enacted in these areas.
    Critical infrastructure, including water, sewer, electricity, 
floodplain management, roads, and others, presents a major barrier for 
rural communities in making homes livable, often at prohibitive costs. 
The USDA Rural Development as you can imagine is a strategic partner 
for rural America. Their expertise and specific programs tailored to 
our constituents fill a need that other Federal programs do not. Yet, 
like many other agencies, they are underfunded. Water infrastructure is 
a major concern in a high elevation arid State like Wyoming. USDA-RD 
community development loans can help keep community infrastructure 
functioning. To give an example, the USDA-RD recently helped the 
Wyoming city of Manville with a partial loan and partial grant to fund 
and update their water system. Manville is a community of approximately 
100 Wyomingites. With the cuts to USDA-RD, this program will no longer 
be able to offer the grant portion of the funding had they been 
applying in the upcoming cycle. As you can imagine, even at subsidized 
rates, a community of 100 does not have the tax base to fund a roughly 
$4.7M water project. While this may be a specific example to a Wyoming 
community, there are hundreds of similar sized communities across the 
mountain plains region. These are communities similar to where I grew 
up: ranchers and farmers working hard to provide for our national food 
supply, but with aging infrastructure that their housing depends on.
    As mentioned earlier in my testimony, Ranking Member Lummis, along 
with Senator John Fetterman recently introduced the Whole-Home Repairs 
Act of 2024 (S. 3871), which would establish a whole-repair grant 
program for low- and moderate-income homeowners. A similar yet much 
smaller version of this concept exists within the USDA-RD as the 504 
program. This program allows very low-income persons (VLIP) to qualify 
for low interest loans and grants for necessary home repairs. This has 
shown to be a successful program directly tackling the needs we are 
discussing today. The Whole-Home Repairs Act works to amplify the 
impact of this concept to the low- and moderate-income homeowners. This 
vision of Senators Lummis and Fetterman allows our working-class 
citizens to access the help they need to keep their homes in a safe, 
sanitary, and repaired state.
    The bipartisan legislation proposes establishing a nationwide 5-
year pilot to assist homeowners facing critical home repair needs and 
combat the housing crisis. Escalating repair and utility expenses often 
compel low-income homeowners and renters to endure conditions such as 
mold, lead paint, faulty plumbing, and other hazards to health and 
safety. When households cannot manage repair costs, it results in 
housing deterioration, contributing to the affordable housing 
challenges.
    This proposed legislation could be instrumental in changing 
communities. I don't need to look any farther than central Wyoming to 
imagine the impact. Mills, WY, is one of the top 20 cities in Wyoming 
in terms of population. The city has a bit over 4,000 residents; and 
yes, you heard that correctly, a city of 4,000 can be in the top 20 in 
Wyoming. We are talking about rural America after all. At the same 
time, Mills is in the bottom 20 percent for income, as the median 
household income of Mills in 2021, was $44,115. The city has an 
increasing property age with 69 percent of households built prior to 
1990. At the same time close to 1 out of 4 property owners are cost-
burdened and more than 1 out of 3 renters are cost-burdened. This 
example of a rural community with limited resources is exactly the type 
of place that could benefit from the legislation and alter the 
trajectory of its residents.
    While I know this program could help rural Wyoming, similar 
communities exist all across the Nation. Retaining and rehabilitating 
our existing housing stock is urgently important, as in many 
communities there is not the capacity, let alone the ability to absorb 
the higher building expense to add inventory. We must invest in 
transforming the housing stock we have, rather than losing it to 
obsolescence.
Inventory
    While it may not be the exact focus of this hearing, housing rarely 
can be discussed without a more holistic view. As such it is important 
to also touch on new inventory constraints as an important piece of the 
housing problem. Rural projects lack the density and proximity that 
make most urban projects work. A series of constraints can compound new 
inventory creation.
    Prior to my relocation to Wyoming, I was fortunate to spend nearly 
a decade with the Hopkins family, who are the fourth-generation family 
owners of a community bank serving South Dakota and Minnesota. The 
community bank model is at the heart of lending in rural America. 
Construction costs for housing projects in rural communities can be 
significantly higher compared to urban areas. This challenge is 
amplified in rural regions that already struggle with limited returns 
on investment, hindering small-scale market-rate developments. A 
possible solution is to support rural and small-scale developers by 
offering tools or programs like credit enhancements and guarantees to 
reduce development risks, which could include guarantees on 
infrastructure costs to create buildable lots.
    Additionally, costs for credit can unduly fall on rural borrowers. 
In the scope of rural consumers accessing financing for home 
preservation or necessary updates, two main tools exist. Traditionally 
consumers can access funds from a cash out refinance of the collateral, 
or agree to a home equity line of credit (HELOC). I am excluding 
unsecured personal lines or loans, as they typically have even higher 
borrower costs due to the interest rate needing to offset the lack of a 
security. The majority of cash out refinances are sold on the secondary 
market. These transactions can be caught in appraisal scrutiny by those 
who don't understand that a comparable can be a town away based on 
limited listings and sales in small communities. Rural appraisals can 
also cost more due to the nature of the available appraisers and 
associated travel costs. Secondary market models that allow for 
valuation flexibility could ease some of this strain. HELOC financing 
typically resides on the financial institution's balance sheet, 
allowing for some flexibility in terms of valuation method. However, 
financial lenders must weigh their loan risk with the customer profile. 
High loan to value loans may not meet the lending matrix or may carry 
higher costs. When considering the origination cost to access funds 
either through a cash out refinance or a HELOC, the percentage of 
expense to the loan proceeds can make the cost of borrowing prohibitive 
to consumers.
    The workforce housing crisis extends to nearly all counties, 
particularly impacting households with incomes ranging from 80 percent 
to 120 percent of the AMI. The scarcity of affordable, accessible, and 
quality single-family and multifamily housing in these income brackets 
often forces families into costly housing options that do not 
adequately meet their needs. Moreover, the housing shortages at all 
price points pose significant challenges for businesses in attracting 
new employees and retaining their current workforce.
    The lack of affordable and available housing remains a significant 
barrier to economic prosperity for many, limiting business and 
workforce opportunities in these communities. This shortage hampers 
efforts to attract new workers, potentially leading to reduced capital 
investment in rural projects or businesses opting not to establish 
themselves in Wyoming.
    In Wyoming, both urban and rural counties are grappling with a 
shortage of new and renovated single-family and multifamily housing 
across all price ranges. The lack of affordable, accessible, and high-
quality housing stems from several factors, including a scarcity of 
shovel-ready land, the steep costs of construction, a limited pool of 
construction workers, and insufficient capital. This situation has led 
developers, investors, and families to hesitate in making new 
investments in construction or renovation, especially in rural areas 
where the high construction costs often outweigh potential returns on 
investment.
    One solution that may hold promise are the technical advances in 
manufactured and modular housing to promote affordable and accessible 
housing in rural Wyoming, addressing workforce challenges. Like many 
States in the mountain plains region, we have a short building season. 
Manufactured housing has the ability to be constructed in a more 
efficient process, in a controlled environment, and can be done in any 
weather condition. In the past, manufactured housing may have simply 
meant constructing a stick-built property using the same methods, just 
under a roof. The process in many businesses now more closely resembles 
that of a car assembly line. This allows for less waste and tighter 
building tolerances. These units are then able to be moved on-site and 
set with utilities, reducing the construction timeline and allowing for 
more housing to come online during a given season.
Legislation
    The last topic I'd like to visit is that of legislation and how it 
may offer solutions. Legislative reform is multifaceted and even 
considerate bills contain underlying costs. These financial commitments 
must be weighed against the public need for such programs and if viable 
alternatives exist. Oftentimes there are multiple solutions to the same 
problem, so finding the optimal path forward can be complex. With that 
mindset in the forefront, I offer commentary on possible options for 
Committee consideration.
    One of the most important Federal resources we have for 
preservation is the HOME Investment Partnerships program. HOME is a 
flexible block grant which States like Wyoming use to meet our most 
pressing affordable housing needs for rental housing, including new 
construction and rehabilitation.
    Despite how essential the program is, HOME has never been fully 
funded. It was last reauthorized in the mid-1990s at just over $2 
billion, but actual appropriations have never reached that level. In FY 
2024, Congress provided only $1.25 billion for HOME, a $250 million cut 
from the previous year. We expect Wyoming will receive approximately 
$3.5 million. With that amount of resources, Wyoming will again need to 
choose whether it is better to focus those funds on preservation 
activities or new construction.
    In the decades since Congress last reauthorized HOME, we have 
learned much. Needs and priorities have also evolved. This is why I 
want to thank Senator Cortez Masto (D-NV) for introducing the HOME 
Investment Partnership Program Reauthorization and Improvement Act (S. 
3793), which would make a number of changes to HOME, including 
adjusting the authorized funding for the program to reflect inflation. 
Some of the programmatic changes this bill makes would help us to cut 
unnecessary red tape, which will allow us to use these funds more 
efficiently.
    According to the Joint Center for Housing Studies at Harvard 
University, America's rental housing stock has never been older than it 
is now, with the median age of properties as of 2021 sitting at 44 
years. Many of these properties no longer meet habitability and safety 
standards due to structural deficiencies and lack of basic features 
like electricity and hot and cold running water. Others are habitable 
but still in need of major repairs or lack accessibility features 
needed for an aging populace.
    In the last century, our Nation invested billions of dollars in 
affordable rental housing through direct subsidy and insurance programs 
run by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and 
the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). Most of this housing was 
built decades ago. Beginning in the 1980s, the Government largely 
changed the way it supports affordable housing production by instead 
using the tax code to incentivize the production of affordable rental 
housing, creating what became the most successful housing production 
program ever, the Low Income Housing Tax Credit (Housing Credit).
    Today, the Housing Credit is the cornerstone of how we finance 
affordable rental housing. But it is called on to do more than new 
construction. We rely on the Housing Credit to preserve the affordable 
housing we initially financed with HUD and USDA programs, 
recapitalizing and rehabilitating these properties so that they do not 
fall into obsolescence as they age or transition to market rate. State 
agencies receive a finite amount of Housing Credit authority each year. 
With it, they must decide how much to devote to new production in areas 
of opportunity to support economic growth, and how much to use to 
preserve the aging housing stock that we cannot afford to lose. We 
simply do not have enough to do it all.
    That is why I say thank you to the Members of the Subcommittee who 
have cosponsored the Affordable Housing Credit Improvement Act (S. 
1557). This legislation would restore a cut in resources the program 
suffered when a modest temporary increase expired after 2021 and build 
on top of that by expanding the program by 50 percent. It would also 
modify the rules related to the use of tax-exempt Housing Bonds so that 
State Housing Finance Agencies like the WCDA could make more efficient 
use of bond resources. Moreover, this legislation would make 
programmatic reforms that would streamline the way the Housing Credit 
works, increasing its efficacy making common sense changes so that we 
can do more to preserve affordable rental housing for our most 
vulnerable residents. If passed, the Affordable Housing Credit 
Improvement Act would allow a national projection of financing nearly 2 
million additional affordable homes, including preservation of existing 
properties.
    Aspects of this bill--enacted on a temporary basis--are included in 
legislation currently before the Senate, the Tax Relief for American 
Families and Workers Act. Even though temporary, these changes would 
provide financing for over 200,000 additional homes nationally.
    There are two other legislative priorities that, while not under 
the jurisdiction of the Banking Committee, I feel should garner 
consideration in preserving the supply of affordable for-ownership 
homes. With the support of Housing Finance Agencies across the Nation, 
the National Council of State Housing Agencies (NCSHA) urged Congress 
to pass the Affordable Housing Bond Enhancement Act (AHBEA; S. 1805), 
which was introduced by Banking Committee Member Senator Catherine 
Cortez Masto (D-NV) and Senator Bill Cassidy (R-LA). This bill would 
make a number of simple, but effective changes to the Mortgage Revenue 
Bond (MRB) and Mortgage Credit Certificate (MCC) programs. MRBs and 
MCCs are the primary means by which State Housing Finance Agencies 
(HFAs) finance their affordable home ownership programs.
    Among other changes, the AHBEA would increase the MRB home 
improvement loan limit from $15,000, where it has been since 1980, to 
$50,000. The limit would also be indexed to increase with inflation. 
The current loan limit, which has not been increased in 44 years, is 
not adequate to cover the costs of most rehabilitation projects. 
Increasing the loan limit will open up a new avenue for HFAs to 
preserve affordable for-ownership homes.
    Further, the Neighborhood Homes Investment Act (NHIA), introduced 
by Ben Cardin (D-MD) and Todd Young (R-IN), would establish a new tax 
credit, the Neighborhood Homes Credit, modeled after the highly 
successful Housing Credit. It would incentivize developers to construct 
new or substantially rehabilitate housing by closing the value gap, up 
to 35 percent of eligible development costs. In many census tracts and 
rural areas, developers cannot sell homes for what it costs to 
construct or substantially rehabilitate them, known as the ``value 
gap''. It is estimated that the equity raised by the Neighborhood Homes 
Credit would finance the building and substantial rehabilitation of 
500,000 affordable homes nationwide for low- and moderate-income 
homeowners over the next 10 years.
    Finally, for legislative topics, I want to raise awareness about 
another issue that I believe is impacting preservation of affordable 
housing in Wyoming and across rural America. The Government Sponsored 
Enterprises (GSEs) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are important 
participants in the Housing Credit program, able to invest up to $1 
billion each in 2024. They are also required by Congress to serve rural 
areas and support preservation under their Duty to Serve obligations. 
However, a little-known tax issue is currently preventing the GSEs from 
participating in multi-investor Housing Credit funds.
    These multi-investor funds are better able to invest in small, 
rural deals because the risk associated with these deals is spread 
across multiple properties and multiple investors, in contrast to 
proprietary funds that have just a single investor and invest in only a 
small number of developments. Fannie Mae in particular has been active 
in multi-investment funds since the GSEs re-entered the Housing Credit 
equity market in 2018. Freddie Mac currently invests only in 
proprietary funds.
    The issue at hand is the question of whether or not the GSEs are 
so-called Tax-Exempt Controlled Entities (TECEs) due to the Preferred 
Stock Purchase Agreement with the Treasury. Other investors in multi-
investor funds have become worried that they might be TECEs, which are 
ineligible for certain tax benefits that impact the yield investors 
make on these investments. Unfortunately, the inclusion of a TECE in a 
multi-investor fund taints the fund for all participating investors. 
Thus, while this question is open, other investors will not join a fund 
in which the GSEs participate.
    This TECE issue has forced Fannie Mae to pull out of multi-investor 
funds, leaving many of these funds scrambling to make up for the 
investment Fannie otherwise would have provided. This is having a 
direct negative impact on Housing Credit investment. In fact, Fannie 
Mae even reduced its Duty to Serve commitment to rural investment for 
2024.
    Last year, Senators Warner (D-VA) and Moran (R-KS) led a bipartisan 
letter to Treasury signed by a total of 20 Senators urging the 
Secretary to issue guidance that the GSEs are not TECEs. However, 
Treasury has not yet done this, as the legal issues are complex. 
Treasury is continuing to investigate possible solutions. In the 
meantime, we believe that Credit pricing in rural areas is suffering 
because of this. Our last allocated round of Tax Credits had the lowest 
pricing that we have encountered during underwriting review: pricing in 
the low 80s, when not that many years ago credits were priced in the 
90s. While tax credit pricing is driven by a variety of variables, such 
as Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) needs, and the supply of other 
credits in the market, this new development may be an additional cause 
for consternation in the market.
    All of the Legislative initiatives mentioned seek to solve a common 
problem. Yet, they go about the process in unique ways. Open dialogue 
regarding the merits and costs will be necessary to find common ground 
and determine the best route.
Closing
    In closing, rural housing challenges while sharing many of the same 
constraints as housing in general, have unique nuances. Unfortunately, 
those most greatly affected are Wyoming's most vulnerable populations, 
including the working poor, individuals with physical and mental health 
challenges, those experiencing homelessness, and the elderly.
    In Rural America, we pride ourselves in pulling ourselves up by our 
bootstraps and lending a helping hand when needed. We look to embrace 
the challenges posed by our aging single-family housing stock, 
including how needed repairs that contribute to a healthy and safe 
living environment are financed. We desire to partner with State and 
local home improvement and repair programs that are successfully 
enabling homeowners to age in place, improve the energy efficiency of 
their homes, and make critical health and safety repairs. This includes 
our Federal partners from the U.S. Departments of Housing and Urban 
Development, Agriculture, and Energy. Finally, we look to discuss ideas 
and policy considerations for scaling successful programs, as well as 
opportunities for interested parties to invest in or support home 
improvement and repair programs that work.
    I would be remised if I didn't take a few moments to thank our 
allies in Wyoming and here in Washington, DC, for your willingness to 
engage in this conversation and partner on solutions. I also would like 
to specifically thank all of the team back at the WCDA. You show up 
each day and put in the hard work; work that makes real life impacts to 
your fellow Wyomingites. Be proud and thank you. Finally, to close I'd 
like to quote a recent post by Governor Gordon's team; ``The world 
needs more Cowboys and Cowgirls, and . . . Wyoming needs more housing 
for our Cowboys and Cowgirls.'' Thank You.
        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR CRAPO
                       FROM JESSE ERGOTT

Q.1. The Biden administration recently announced it would cap 
annual income limit and maximum rent increases for LIHTC and 
Section 8 projects at 10 percent year-over-year.
    What impact will this change have on existing properties in 
high-cost areas?

A.1. While I represent an organization that does not currently 
engage in affordable housing development through the LIHTC 
program or property management utilizing Section 8, I can share 
a response to this question based on general experience in the 
affordable housing space and from insights gathered from 
colleagues who are more directly involved in this work. The 
decision by the Biden administration to limit rent increases 
has generally been well received by tenant advocates as an 
important cost-control measure to protect the most vulnerable 
renters, many of whom are considered severely cost burdened, 
from egregious rent increases. While these protections may be 
especially helpful in the short term to tenants in high-cost 
areas where there is additional pressure for pricing increases, 
there is concern that this cap will also limit the ability of 
developers/owners to keep pace with rising operating costs 
should the need arise. In some areas, especially those where a 
property may already receive a maximum rent and a typical 
increase may be more than 10 percent due to market conditions, 
the cap may ultimately result in lower rental income than is 
needed to sustainably operate a LIHTC property. Many developers 
and property managers also seek to provide other critical wrap-
around services to tenants, but if normal operating costs can't 
be covered through rents and subsidies, these services are 
often the first to suffer by losing funding.

Q.2. What impact will this change have on new LIHTC development 
in general and in high-cost areas specifically?

A.2. In general, while adding protections for economically 
vulnerable renters can be considered a ``win'', there also 
seems to be a level of concern among affordable housing 
developers who now have another factor to consider when making 
a decision regarding whether or not to move forward with a 
project, especially in a high-cost area where price increases 
may need to be factored into the sustainability plan for the 
project. Costs for developing affordable units have risen 
significantly in recent years across the board, and the 
assembly of capital stacks and long-term financing plans for 
the projects tend to already be incredibly complex. For 
properties currently under development, this change will affect 
future anticipated rents which ultimately alters the 
supportable debt of the project.
    If a project in a high-cost area requires a price increase 
greater than 10 percent to be sustainable, then the 10 percent 
cap will likely lead to a larger financing gap and will 
increase the need to seek other types of funding (tax credits, 
soft financing, bonds, grants, etc.) which can be difficult to 
secure. Taking these factors into account during the 
development process, there is concern that this change could 
discourage the creation of additional affordable housing supply 
by adding another challenge to the already long list of 
barriers developers face to bringing (badly needed) new units 
online.
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        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR CRAPO
                     FROM ROBIN DAVEY WOLFF

Q.1. The Biden administration recently announced it would cap 
annual income limit and maximum rent increases for LIHTC and 
Section 8 projects at 10 percent year-over-year.
    What impact will this change have on existing properties in 
high-cost areas?

A.1. At this time, Enterprise does not believe that capping 
annual income limits and rent increases at 10 percent will have 
a negative impact on Housing Credit properties, even for 
properties in high-cost areas. Enterprise Community Partners 
has over 40 years of experience in affordable housing, 
investing $72 billion nationwide and creating one million 
homes. Enterprise is one of the largest Low-Income Housing Tax 
Credit (Housing Credit) syndicators in the country, with more 
than 1,300 properties in our portfolio. We also own and operate 
115 properties serving 24,000 residents in the Mid-Atlantic. 
Many of these properties are in high-cost areas.
    As part of our standard underwriting of a Housing Credit 
property, we assume that expenses and rent will increase at a 
rate well below 10 percent. An in-depth analysis of the 
reasonableness of initial rent levels and operating expenses 
allows us to rely on a more moderate level of annual increases, 
though we model to ensure financial stability even if higher 
levels should occur.

Q.2. What impact will this change have on new LIHTC development 
in general and in high-cost areas specifically?

A.2. Enterprise does not believe that the imposition of a 10 
percent limit on increases in income and rents will have a 
chilling effect on the development of new Housing Credit 
properties, even in high-cost areas. Enterprise is a mission-
based organization with the creation and preservation of 
affordable housing as our central tenet. In general, Enterprise 
has not observed tenant incomes increasing at an annual rate 
close to 10 percent. Because rent limits for a unit are based 
on what would be affordable for a target percentage of AMI, 
rather than the tenant's actual income, allowing rent to 
increase more than 10 percent each year could quickly make 
Housing Credit homes unaffordable to residents if their income 
is not keeping pace. Operating expenses have increased, 
especially in high-cost areas; however, every effort should be 
made to avoid passing off those costs to Housing Credit tenants 
in the form of higher rent. An increase over 10 percent would 
certainly not be sustainable for residents.
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        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR CRAPO
                    FROM CHRISTOPHER VOLZKE

Q.1. The Biden administration recently announced it would cap 
annual income limit and maximum rent increases for LIHTC and 
Section 8 projects at 10 percent year-over-year.
    What impact will this change have on existing properties in 
high-cost areas?
    What impact will this change have on new LIHTC development 
in general and in high-cost areas specifically?

A.1. Thank you for the question. Maintaining the balance of 
resident affordability and ownership costs is an important 
piece of long-term rental preservation. We are understanding of 
the owners and know how much the cost of managing housing has 
increased, especially in insurance, cost of goods, salary, and 
staffing costs. That said, we also have to consider the 
population that we serve, and their capacity to absorb cost 
increases. Many States already have an overlay on rental caps. 
Locally here in Wyoming, our State overlay contemplates rent 
cap restrictions on the non-LIHTC funding sources (HOME & 
NHTF); yet we remain 3-4x oversubscribed on new development 
applications indicating a healthy market. In underwriting a 
multifamily property, long term projections do not expect a 10 
percent year over year increase in rents; rather that type of 
assumption would most likely be a red flag for a new 
development application. While there may be isolated cases 
where these caps pose challenges, I don't view this as a 
widespread industry issue, nor do I perceive it impacting 
investor interest in the Housing Credit. Instead, factors like 
Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) reform and new energy credits 
are more likely to have a lasting impact. So as with other 
policy changes, they should continue to be evaluated to ensure 
they support project viability amidst evolving market 
conditions.
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