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                  AN UPDATE FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT:
        COUNTERING ILLICIT FINANCE, TERRORISM AND SANCTIONS EVASION

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                          UNITED STATES SENATE

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 EXAMINING COUNTERING ILLICIT FINANCE, TERRORISM AND SANCTIONS EVASION

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            COMMITTEE ON BANKING, HOUSING, AND URBAN AFFAIRS

                       SHERROD BROWN, Ohio, Chair

JACK REED, Rhode Island              TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
ROBERT MENENDEZ, New Jersey          MIKE CRAPO, Idaho
JON TESTER, Montana                  MIKE ROUNDS, South Dakota
MARK R. WARNER, Virginia             THOM TILLIS, North Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts      JOHN KENNEDY, Louisiana
CHRIS VAN HOLLEN, Maryland           BILL HAGERTY, Tennessee
CATHERINE CORTEZ MASTO, Nevada       CYNTHIA M. LUMMIS, Wyoming
TINA SMITH, Minnesota                J.D. VANCE, Ohio
RAPHAEL G. WARNOCK, Georgia          KATIE BOYD BRITT, Alabama
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania         KEVIN CRAMER, North Dakota
LAPHONZA R. BUTLER, California       STEVE DAINES, Montana

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Opening statement of Chair Brown.................................     1
        Prepared statement.......................................    29

Opening statements, comments, or prepared statements of:
    Senator Scott................................................     3
        Prepared statement.......................................    30

                                WITNESS

Adewale O. Adeyemo, Deputy Secretary, Department of the Treasury.     5
    Prepared statement...........................................    31
    Responses to written questions of:
        Senator Scott............................................    33
        Senator Cortez Masto.....................................    47
        Senator Warnock..........................................    48
        Senator Fetterman........................................    49
        Senator Butler...........................................    50
        Senator Kennedy..........................................    53
        Senator Cramer...........................................    56
        Senator Daines...........................................    57



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                  AN UPDATE FROM THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT:
        COUNTERING ILLICIT FINANCE, TERRORISM AND SANCTIONS EVASION

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                         TUESDAY, APRIL 9, 2024

                                       U.S. Senate,
          Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs,
                                                    Washington, DC.
    The Committee met at 10:06 a.m., in room SD-538, Dirksen 
Senate Office Building, Hon. Sherrod Brown, Chair of the 
Committee, presiding.

            OPENING STATEMENT OF CHAIR SHERROD BROWN

    Chair Brown. The Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs 
Committee will come to order. I will make two sorts of personal 
statements. One is I was cheering on the University of South 
Carolina Gamecocks in that game, even though they were down 13 
to 2 at the beginning. And----
    Senator Scott. Indeed.
    Chair Brown. ----Senator Scott's team won. And more 
interesting, no offense to them was--or to Senator Scott. But 
yesterday I missed--I rarely miss a vote. I missed a vote 
because my wife and I sat on our back porch and saw the total 
eclipse in Cleveland.
    It went over Cleveland, center of the world during--and it 
actually passed over NASA, one of the 10 NASA facilities.
    Senator Scott. It certainly----
    Chair Brown. It was just extraordinary.
    Senator Scott. It was on Sunday, the center of the 
basketball world.
    Chair Brown. And the game----
    Senator Scott. So, this is true.
    Chair Brown. The final four women's were in Cleveland.
    Senator Scott. Indeed, for a good reason. The Gamecocks 
play well in South Carolina, Ohio, California. They just play 
well everywhere, but----
    Chair Brown. Your time has expired, Senator Scott.
    Senator Scott. I can't wait to be the Chairman.
    Chair Brown. How much time you got, man? It's a long, long 
wait.
    Senator Scott. We'll see.
    Chair Brown. Do I have to call it to order again? I did 
that, right? Thank you. Nice to see you Mr. Wally, we'll 
introduce you in a moment. We face threats to American national 
security and global stability every day. Autocrats, terrorists, 
drug traffickers work to undermine our economy, our values, our 
way of life.
    Sophisticated international cartels traffic fentanyl into 
our communities. China supplies precursor chemicals to Mexican 
cartels, feeding our deadly fentanyl epidemic. Russia's brutal 
invasion of Ukraine continues. Putin looks for new ways to fund 
his war machine.
    Iran finances terrorist proxies that wreak havoc all over 
the Middle East from Hamas' brutal October 7th attack on Israel 
to the Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea and 
Hezbollah's menacing activity.
    All these bad actors need one thing, money. Terrorists, 
fentanyl traffickers, the Russian military, they all need to 
spend. And to move money, they all use the financial system in 
a variety of ways to do that.
    That's why we must use all available economic tools to 
defend American interests and American values. Means denying 
bad actors access to the global financial system and broadening 
our coalition of partners to prevent terrorism in the flow of 
illicit finance that supports drug traffickers and money 
launderers.
    Terrorists, criminals, rogue Nations will never stop in 
their efforts to evade our sanctions regime, we must be equally 
vigilant. Vigilance requires international security leaders 
have the authorities and the resources they need to stay ahead 
of these bad actors.
    Today we'll hear from Deputy Treasury Secretary, Adeyemo 
and discuss our strategy for combating illicit finance. 
Treasury leads the work to stop illicit actors from exploiting 
the international financial systems to fund their crimes and 
terror activity.
    Deputy Secretary Adeyemo should provide an assessment of 
the effectiveness of our recent sanctions enforcement efforts. 
We'll hear about what statutory gaps stand in the way of our 
ability to root out and stop illicit finance. Congress must 
respond.
    Last year, this Committee worked together in a bipartisan 
way to design a new sanctions program, the FEND Off Fentanyl 
Act, that can help reduce the flow of fentanyl into our 
communities. FEND Off Fentanyl has 67 cosponsors. It passed out 
of this Committee unanimously. I thank Senator Scott and the 
other Members of this Committee. It passed in the Senate twice.
    Americans can't wait any longer. This needs to get to the 
President's desk and be signed into law. As FEND makes clear, 
our Committee plays a critical role in protecting communities 
and protecting our national security. This Committee works to 
strengthen tools we have to go after anyone who threatens us.
    It conducts oversight over how the Administration uses 
these tools, including their use of waivers or exceptions. And 
when bad actors turn to new routes to raise and move money like 
crypto, this Committee must respond. Our adversaries are going 
to innovate. We must make sure our illicit finance tools keep 
up.
    Last November, the Justice Department in an effort led by 
the U.S. Attorney in the Northern District of Ohio, where I 
live, and the DEA charged 11 people in a drug ring. They 
allegedly trafficked fentanyl, synthetic opioids, and other 
drugs across Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Tennessee. And they 
paid their suppliers in Bitcoin.
    Just last week, the Wall Street Journal reported how 
Russian smugglers use the stable coin Tether to evade sanctions 
on Russia's war machine. Tethers a ``key step in the chain'' of 
illicit transactions, one smuggler said. North Korea's hacked, 
stolen, laundered hundreds of millions of dollars in crypto, a 
strategy to avoid sanctions.
    And these--all these bad actors, North Korea, Russia 
terrorist groups like Hamas, are turning to crypto because 
they've seen the ads and bought the hype. They're using it 
because they know it's a workaround. They know it's easier to 
move money in the shadows without safeguards, like know your 
customer rules or suspicious transaction reporting.
    These commonsense protections help identify illicit money 
and keep it out of our financial system. We must make sure that 
crypto platforms play by the same rules as other financial 
institutions. We need to make sure we have the tools to crack 
down illicit finance with digital assets, just as we would with 
any other asset.
    Many, including the deputy secretary, have pointed out 
possible gaps in illicit finance authorities over digital 
assets. It's time we work together to close these loopholes and 
protect our national security.
    We need to think not just about how terror groups and drug 
traffickers use crypto, but also about how they could exploit 
it tomorrow. If we leave loopholes in the books, this problem 
will get worse, and we simply can't take that risk. Given the 
range of threats we face. It's clear the Administration needs 
to do more to use its illicit finance tools to stop terrorism, 
to push back on Iran and Russia and China, to stop the funding 
streams of the traffickers supplying illicit fentanyl to our 
children in our communities. I look forward to hearing from the 
Deputy Secretary this morning.
    Senator Scott.

             OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR TIM SCOTT

    Senator Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and Secretary, 
thank you for being here with us this morning.
    Today is an important opportunity to discuss American 
leadership, especially on the global stage. I've often said 
that we, the United States, must leverage our international 
toolkit to stop bad actors, curb illicit activity, and protect 
American families.
    Thankfully, agencies like the Treasury Department, already 
have robust toolkits available, as well as in instances where 
additional directions needed. I have not shied away from 
providing more resources and direction like those in my FEND 
Off Fentanyl legislation and my Revoke Iranian funding act as 
well.
    So, I appreciate having you here with us this morning. 
South Carolina is a proud home to many of our U.S. 
servicemembers, their families, and our veterans. I'm proud of 
this fact and my important duty to serve their interests. Which 
is why it was particularly profound and deeply troubling when 
three U.S. servicemembers were killed in January's Iranian 
backed terror attack.
    I'll keep saying this because it's true. Every dollar this 
Administration gives to Iran is another dollar that will be 
used against our sons and daughters and puts them in harm's way 
in the military. Thankfully, the Treasury Department has the 
ability to stop the dollars moving around our global economy 
that bolsters the Iranian regime.
    However, this White House has reduced those barriers 
through so-called electricity waivers with expanded currency 
access to Euro's licenses and further billion-dollar payouts. 
Going even so far as to give a lifeline to Nicolas Maduro's 
corrupt regime in Venezuela. A known ally of Iran, China, 
Russia, and Cuba.
    An axis of terror through broad oil and gas sanctions 
relief, of which we have seen no benefit to U.S. national 
security or to the Venezuelan people who suffer under Maduro. 
This is beyond troubling, especially when our servicemembers 
are killed in terror attacks by Iranian proxies. And our 
families here at home are struggling to put food on the table.
    When we look at--when we look here at home, there's not a 
single neighborhood, whether that's Charleston, South Carolina, 
or Cleveland, Ohio, that has escaped the death grip of 
fentanyl. I'm very proud of this Committee's work to address 
this crisis and for the support of all the Members of this 
Committee working together to stop this deadly drug.
    Because what Fentanyl--produced in traffic by Mexican 
cartels and supported through Chinese precursors--has done to 
our communities is a national security crisis. I remain 
committed to seeing this legislation passed into law and to 
stop the flow of illicit money and drugs across our border.
    Every family in America deserves to be free from the 
scourge of this deadly drug. I started with these two issues 
because I believe they should be top of mind for this 
Administration and for this Committee.
    And yet just last week, secretary Yellen was in China to 
discuss how cheap Chinese exports of green energy technology 
are harming electric vehicles and solar energy here in the 
United States.
    This is a clear climate goal of this Administration, but 
far from the top goal. We should be pushing back China on, a 
perspective that's frankly hard to stomach when Hamas is 
enabled by support from Iran to carry out horrific attacks 
against our ally Israel. All while China continues to be the 
top purchaser of Iranian oil and top financier to international 
web of illicit financing used by the Mexican cartels to kill 
people using fentanyl.
    This needs to stop, saving lives cannot play second fiddle 
to progressive climate goals. We need to see real efforts by 
China to stop these activities that undermine U.S. national 
security interest. America must be a strong leader. Fentanyl 
and terrorism are leading threats and should be treated as 
such.
    American families deserve to know that their Government is 
protecting them from these threats and punishing those who 
trouble us. Thank you. Thank you for holding this hearing and I 
look forward to the opportunity to question.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Scott. I'll introduce 
today's witness, the Honorable Adewale Adeyemo, is Deputy 
Secretary of Treasury, held a range of senior economic and 
national security positions. He briefed this Committee on the 
immediate aftermath of the tragedy of the October 7th attacks. 
Welcome back. Please proceed. Thank you.

 STATEMENT OF ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO, DEPUTY SECRETARY, DEPARTMENT 
                        OF THE TREASURY

    Mr. Adeyemo. Mr. Chairman, Ranking Member Scott, and 
Members of the Committee, thank you for inviting me here today. 
I want to thank you and the Members of the Committee for your 
willingness to work with us to address the threats to our 
national security.
    I'm here today because we need additional tools to protect 
the American people. And I appreciate the fact that this 
Committee has not shied away from providing us with tools in 
the past. And I look forward to working with you to make sure 
that we have the tools that are necessary going forward.
    As we take steps to cut terrorist groups and other malign 
actors off from the traditional financial system, we are 
increasingly concerned about the ways these actors are using 
cryptocurrencies to circumvent our sanctions.
    For example, years ago, al-Qaeda and affiliated terrorist 
groups, largely based out of Syria, operated a Bitcoin money 
laundering network using social media platforms to solicit 
cryptocurrency donations.
    After receiving virtual currency, they laundered the 
proceeds through various online gift card exchanges to be able 
to purchase what they needed to advance their violent agenda.
    Most recently, over the past year, we have seen the Islamic 
Revolutionary Guard Corps--Quds Force--transfer cryptocurrency 
to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad in Gaza. In 
addition, we have seen Hamas use virtual currencies to solicit 
small dollar donations, and we've been able to take actions 
against these networks.
    Our problem is that actors are increasingly finding ways to 
hide their identities and move resources using virtual 
currency. What has always been true is the terrorists and other 
malign actors seek new ways to move their resources in light of 
the actions we are taking to cut them off from accessing the 
traditional financial system.
    For the most part, these methods have been slower and 
harder to use than traditional financial system. That is no 
longer true. Today, because of the authorities Congress has 
provided us, we have a long track record of taking actions to 
make it harder for these groups to use the traditional 
financial system to move money.
    We continue to use these authorities aggressively to cutoff 
the illicit financial networks to enable illicit actors 
worldwide, including Hamas and other Iran bank proxies, Russian 
oligarchs, ISIS, just to name a few.
    But the more effective our targeting is, the more reason 
there is for these terrorist groups and others to look to 
virtual assets. And to be clear, it's not just terrorist 
groups, but State actors like the DPRK and Russia as well. The 
DPRK, which through numerous complex State-sponsored cyber 
heists, is able to acquire, launder, and store illicit revenue.
    It relies on anonymity-enhancing technologies like mixers 
to hide the sources of these funds. And it leverages over the 
counter digital assets traders to acquire fiat currency. In 
addition, we've seen Russia increasingly turn to alternative 
payment mechanisms, including the stable coin Tether to try to 
circumvent our sanctions and continue to finance its war 
machine.
    Mr. Chairman, Mr. Ranking Member, you both mentioned 
fentanyl, which is killing too many Americans around this 
country. What we know to be true is that these drug cartels are 
increasingly looking for ways to move money that are outside 
the traditional financial system.
    Just a few weeks ago, I was in Phoenix, where together with 
law enforcement, we sanctioned 21 actors who were trying to 
move financial resources back to Mexico. As we take steps to 
shut these actors out of our financial system, we should know 
that they are going to increasingly look to use 
cryptocurrencies and virtual assets to move things, given our 
lack of ability to stop them, given the lack of tools.
    While we're doing everything we can, we'll continue to use 
the tools you have given us. The reason that I sent the term 
sheet in November was because of what we saw. Which was that 
today, while Treasury has tools that Congress has given us that 
we're using to go after terrorist actors and other illicit 
actors, we need new tools.
    The term sheet calls for three things. First is the 
introduction of a secondary sanction tool targeted at foreign 
digital asset providers that facilitate illicit finance. The 
second is a reform centered on modernizing and closing gaps in 
existing authorities by expanding their reach to explicitly 
cover the key players and core activities of the digital asset 
ecosystem.
    Finally, a third reform addresses jurisdictional risk from 
offshore cryptocurrency platforms, which is a key challenge 
that we face today.
    There is clear overlap between the proposals that we have 
made and the bipartisan bills coming out of this Committee. We 
agree that the use of these emerging technologies by illicit 
actors can have impacts on our national security, foreign 
policy and the economy of the United States.
    That's why the United States has a strong interest in 
ensuring that we have the necessary tools and authorities 
available and ready to mitigate the risks in this quickly 
evolving ecosystem, including the dollar-based digital assets 
in particular.
    While we continue to assess that terrorists prefer the use 
of financial products and services, we fear that without 
congressional action to provide us with necessary tools, the 
use of virtual assets by these actors will only grow.
    That is why I look forward to our conversation today and 
working with this Committee to develop the tools we need to 
protect our national security, protect our economy, and protect 
the United States of America.
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, for having me. I look forward to 
your questions.
    Chair Brown. Deputy Secretary, many of us have raised the 
alarm about digital assets and illicit finance, particularly 
after Hamas' horrific October 7th attack. You wrote to this 
Committee last November. You've referred to that warning about 
gaps in our illicit finance framework around digital assets.
    Briefly tell us about those potential gaps. What are the 
risks if Congress fails to act, to prevent terrorists and drug 
trafficking, drug traffickers from exploiting crypto.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, I appreciate the ways in which the 
Committee has met with us and worked with us here. The greatest 
risk we have today is that as we take actions. Like the 55 
sanctions we've placed on Hamas since October 7th, and we 
monitor the activities in the formal financial system, they're 
clearly going to try and move to get money through the informal 
system, which includes cryptocurrency.
    While traditionally, what groups like this have done is 
move money by hand and by courier, which is slower and harder 
to do, cryptocurrency gives them a route that is easier to do 
and in lots of ways allows them to get faster access to these 
currencies.
    That's why we think it's essential that we get the tools 
that we have called for in this proposal and that many Senators 
in this Committee have sponsored legislation to give us.
    Chair Brown. And obviously we want to work, continue to 
work with you on that. November last year, president Biden met 
with Chinese President Xi to talk about efforts to count 
counter the fentanyl trade. Secretary Yellen just concluded a 
trip to China, and Presidents Biden and Xi spoke last week.
    We also know, as we've seen many times Chinese promises 
don't mean much. What is the Administration doing to hold China 
to any commitments and to take action if they fail to follow 
through and crack down on fentanyl precursor suppliers?
    Mr. Adeyemo. This is an issue that is top of mind for us 
and top of mind for the Secretary in her conversations with our 
Chinese counterparts. We've made very clear to the Chinese that 
it's not in their interest for precursor drugs to be sold in 
the United States. But if they don't act, we will.
    And we are prepared to take actions against those precursor 
companies. Fundamentally, our goal here is to make sure that 
those precursors don't end up in places like Mexico and then 
turn into the drugs that are sold on our streets.
    Disrupting that network is top of mind during the 
conversations we're having with the Chinese, but we're also 
looking very closely at intelligence to see if they're taking 
the actions that they've promised to take if they are not----
    Chair Brown. So, how do you show it's not in China's 
interest to do that?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Fundamentally, the Chinese also are not--the 
Chinese also want to control the illegal drug trade in China. 
They fundamentally don't want to be in a position where they 
are exposed to U.S. sanctions in light of the impact that 
potentially has on their economy.
    We've made very clear that as we look at the intelligence 
and information, if we find that those precursor chemicals are 
still coming to the United States, we're going to have to use 
our sanctions authorities to go after those companies and to 
disrupt that activity.
    We're continuing to monitor that information. And I want to 
be very clear that our goal here is to make sure that we stop 
those precursors because stopping them is the best way to make 
sure that those drugs aren't produced then end up on our 
streets.
    Chair Brown. And presumably the threat of FEND Off Fentanyl 
Act, Senator Scott, and I, and our staffs wrote, will the 
threat of that encourages China to do the right thing here?
    Mr. Adeyemo. It's quite helpful to have congressional 
action that you are thinking through that could be done here in 
light of the fact that it not only impacts foreign countries, 
but it impacts these criminal businesses because ultimately 
what they are, are businesses.
    The problem is they're engaged in an illegal business, and 
the more that they see that Congress is interested in giving us 
additional tools to go after them, it helps us better dissuade 
people from entering into this business and allows us to stop 
them where they stand and to make sure they don't have access 
to their money, which is their ultimate goal.
    Chair Brown. One last question. Our unprecedented sanctions 
on Russia have resolved in the equivalent of hundreds of 
millions of dollars in Russia's central bank reserves being 
frozen. Despite that, Russia continues to find ways to access 
things it needs to continue its brutal attack on the Ukrainian 
people, whether that's revenue generated by oil sales to China, 
India, drones, missiles from Iran, North Korea goods try and 
ship through third parties.
    All of this made worse from cited by interesting comments 
that a congressman from Ohio, Mike Turner, a friend of mine, 
said that over the weekend, how do you plan to strengthen our 
sanctions and sanctions enforcement to counter that?
    Mr. Adeyemo. One of the things that we have been the most 
successful at is building international coalition to hold 
Russia accountable. We have to do more with that coalition to 
go after both Russia's revenues, but also their ability to 
build weapons.
    Fundamentally, the thing that Russia is doing with the 
money they have is building the weapons they want. In order to 
build those weapons. They need to purchase certain goods from 
the outside world.
    Going after those goods, going after their supply chain has 
to be a key part of our strategy. We've put sanctions on that 
supply chain, and our goal is to make sure that as Russia 
adjusts to those sanctions, we do even more, to make sure we're 
putting sand in the gears of Russia's military industrialized 
complex. But the thing that we know, Senator, is that we have 
the capacity to slow Russia down.
    One of the things that we are grateful for is the Senate's 
passage of the President's supplemental request, because that's 
going to allow us to give Ukraine access to the weapons they 
need to speed up in defending themselves.
    But we're going to continue to do what we can to make sure 
that we reduce Russia's revenues and reduce their ability to 
build weapons using our sanctions. It's key that we do this in 
a multilateral way because what Russia's become adept at doing 
is trying to find ways to evade our sanctions by not using the 
U.S. dollar, but using the international system.
    And the more countries that are part of our coalition, the 
better as we go after Russia, both in terms of revenues and 
their supply chain.
    Chair Brown. Thank you. I've run out of time. I was going 
to ask you a question about terrorists and the use of dollar 
stable coins. But well, we'll do that in a written question.
    Senator Scott.
    Senator Scott. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Listening to you 
today, deputy Secretary it feels like digital assets has become 
the scapegoat of this Administration because, with all that's 
going on in the world, the only legislative request you have 
sent to this Committee are new authorities related to 
cryptocurrency.
    And, and I'll say that if China buys about 90 percent of 
the Iranian oil and we make it easier to sell the Iranian oil. 
Last August we saw a $6 billion transfer to the Iranians, for, 
my opinion, hostage relief. $10 billion allowing electricity 
waivers.
    None of that's happening in digital assets. They're 
literally using our cash. We're making it easier for them to 
use Euros. The bottom line is this, that if $35 billion 
represents the export of oil from Iran, none of which is 
purchased using digital assets, having a conversation simply 
and exclusively about digital assets misses the elephant in the 
room.
    That every single time we make it easier for the Iranian 
regime to receive resources from the United States in cash, 
pallets of cash or through electricity waivers, use euros or 
license. We put more and more Americans and our allies in 
harm's way, and that includes Israel.
    And so, for us to have a conversation that sounds like a 
digital asset conversation as opposed to a conversation about 
illicit financing, that is far larger than digital assets to 
me, makes it into a scapegoat.
    I'd love to hear why the Treasury Department made it a 
determination to change the recent electricity waivers to allow 
for the use of euros. Was that a request from the Iranians?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, just for the record, that is an 
authority that the State Department has. But I think the most 
important thing to point out here is that on both the 
electricity waiver, but also the $6 billion, both of those are 
monies that are tied up in financial institutions.
    None of that money will ever see its way to Iran. At most, 
that money can be used to purchase things outside of Iran. The 
challenge here is that while we can stop that money from 
financial institutions moving to Iran, I don't have the 
authorities to stop cryptocurrencies from moving into Iran. 
That's why I've asked for those authorities. But fundamentally, 
what I can say is that the $6 billion you mentioned----
    Senator Scott. There that--let's have a conversation about 
this for just a second. You are a highly educated, brilliant 
man, to sit here and to suggest that you don't understand us 
giving Iran $6 billion that they will be able to use at some 
point. And then the Administration said they can't use it for 
this purpose, but they can use it for that purpose. Money's 
fungible. I mean, you don't have to be as educated as you are 
to know that money's fungible.
    So, the bottom line is simply this, anytime we allow the 
Iranians to have more access to cash, euros, balance sheets, we 
are making it easier for their proxies to use their resources 
to target Americans, as has been done for the last several 
months.
    In addition to that, our allies. Anytime we relax the 
regime that makes it harder for them to sell oil, making it 
easier for them to do so with China happily purchasing those 
resources. We don't have to be that smart to realize that all 
of this makes it harder on our allies and deadly for our 
servicemembers.
    So, I just find it preposterous that we would pose it a 
position that suggests that those resources have no impact on 
what Iran is doing. And frankly, if that were the case, we 
would not have released them at all.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, can I make a point?
    Senator Scott. Please. Yes, sir.
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, you're right that in a democracy, 
money is fungible. But what we've seen time and time from the 
Iranian regime is they fail to feed their people and they put 
the IRGC first. Any dollar they have will go toward their 
violent activity before they deal with their people.
    That's partially why almost none of the humanitarian money 
has been used for humanitarian purposes: they don't care about 
getting drugs and food for their people. But the difference is 
that the United States of America has made as a values 
proposition that we are always going to provide humanitarian 
relief for people.
    And that's what we've said is the only purpose for this 
money. So, while in our country money is fungible, in Iran, 
they've proven that any dollar they get that, they have direct 
access to in the country will be used for the IRGC before it's 
ever used for their people.
    Senator Scott. Secretary, because I'm not the chairman of 
this Committee, and he is, he's going to cut me off as soon as 
I say something he doesn't like. So let me just suggest this. 
You and I actually agree on that point. That the Iranian regime 
does not care about the Iranian people.
    Therefore, any relaxation that allows their economy to 
thrive or survive is for one purpose. For them to carry out 
their primary objective, which is spreading terrorism 
throughout the Middle East and eliminating the little Satan and 
then the big Satan. That would be Israel and America.
    Chair Brown. Senator Menendez of New Jersey recognized.
    Senator Menendez. Thank you. I'd like to follow up where 
Senator Scott just left off. Reports show that in spite of U.S. 
sanctions, many of which I've written. Iran's exports of crude 
oil grew by roughly 50 percent in 2023 to a 5-year high of 
almost 1.3 million barrels a day with the vast majority of that 
oil going to China.
    And according to the Congressional Research Service, many 
of these experts are going to small- and mid-sized refiners 
with little exposure to the U.S. financial system.
    So if Iran can consistently find willing buyers for its oil 
in China, what does that do to the effectiveness of our 
sanctions? What are you doing to put pressure on Chinese 
entities that import Iranian oil despite U.S. sanctions?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, thank you for the question. I think 
what we've been focused on is taking actions to disrupt the 
ability of Iran to sell its oil anywhere by going after 
middlemen. So, over the course of the last several years, we've 
put more than 300 sanctions on Iran related to its 
petrochemical industry.
    But in addition to doing that, one of the things we're also 
focused on is making sure that even if Iran is able to sell its 
oil to actors, it's hard to impossible for Iran to get that 
money and return it back to its country using the traditional 
financial system. So monitoring the flows of that money is 
another place where we've been very focused as, so----
    Senator Menendez. So, I'm going to join in Senator Scott 
and admire how intellectually gifted you are. But it doesn't 
take a rocket scientist to understand that you can convert 
those dollars into cryptocurrency and other forms in order to 
ultimately have access to them.
    So, if we say that all of our sanctions are a success when 
their oil exports grew by roughly 50 percent, 50 percent, I 
just don't see how we can make that case. And I think part of 
the problem here is that we are reticent to actually sanction 
China and Chinese actors as we try this new detente with them.
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, I think you made one of the 
points that I came to make, which is that we need more 
authorities to go after cryptocurrency. I think that we are 
willing to, and we have sanctioned middlemen that are in Hong 
Kong and other places. We'll continue to do that.
    But the challenge set that we have now is that while you've 
given us authorities to go after the traditional financial 
sector, we could use additional authorities to allow us to go 
after cryptocurrencies----
    Senator Menendez. Well, I look forward to working with 
others to try to make that happen, but when it happens, then I 
hope we actually see it used. Because I'm concerned that many 
of the existing authorities we have are not being fully used. 
Let me turn to something else.
    I'm concerned about the exploitation of our litigation 
finance industry by foreign actors. According to Bloomberg Law, 
Russian billionaires with ties to Putin have spent millions 
funding bankruptcy lawsuits in New York, even after these 
individuals were sanctioned following the invasion of Ukraine.
    Do you believe that lack of transparency in the litigation 
and finance industry can create a gap in our sanctions 
enforcement?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Completely agree with you that this is an 
issue that we have to both work on and try and address. One of 
the challenges we have, of course, is that these Russian 
oligarchs have become quite expert in trying to avoid our 
sanctions. And what from what I've seen, this is one of the 
several ways in which they're trying to do that.
    Senator Menendez. Well, this is not only the concern with 
the current state of affairs. GAO found in a 2022 analysis that 
sovereign wealth funds may be investing in the United States 
third party legal financing market to further foreign policy 
and military goals.
    And foreign companies via wealth funds can use this type of 
investing to fund lawsuits against their U.S. competitors, 
which is something we're increasingly seeing in patent 
litigation. What can we do to shore up regulation of litigation 
financing to ensure it isn't a pathway for bad actors to 
exploit the legal system?
    Mr. Adeyemo. I think one of the most important things we 
can do, Senator, which I know you've called for, is additional 
transparency, better understanding who's funding what will help 
us better be able to both use our tools, but also to make sure 
the American people are aware of who's funding these lawsuits.
    Senator Menendez. Well, do you think you need legislation 
for that or do you think you have executive authorities to do 
that?
    Mr. Adeyemo. I'd like to work with you and go back to my 
team and talk to them about what we have. But if we need 
legislation, we will quickly come to you to ask for that.
    Senator Menendez. Fair enough. I think we can all agree 
that more work needs to be done, update and clarify our digital 
asset regulatory regime. However, that does not and should not 
exempt service providers from complying with existing laws.
    According to the most recent national money laundering risk 
assessment ``some virtual asset service providers currently do 
not adequately implement AML/CFT controls or other processes to 
identify customers. And in some cases, such VASPS may claim not 
to be subject to U.S. jurisdiction despite doing business 
wholly or substantially part of the United States.''
    While Congress works on an updated digital asset framework, 
what is Treasury doing to step up enforcement of existing law? 
Are there any additional resources you require?
    Mr. Adeyemo. We appreciate what you and Members of this 
Committee are doing to help update both the BSA but also IEEPA 
in order to give--make sure that we're clear to members of the 
digital asset ecosystem that they are subject to both of those 
regimes.
    While Congress does that, we're also using the tools you've 
already given us. For example, the 311, which we used recently 
to go after a class of digital assets called mixers. Which are 
used frankly to try and help people disguise their identity 
using cryptocurrencies.
    We've also taken a number of actions to go after the ways 
in which Hamas has used cryptocurrencies as part of the 57 
actions we've taken against Hamas. So, we're committed to 
continue to take on this problem set, including with the action 
we've taken against Binance. But we appreciate the fact that 
Congress is working to give us additional authorities and tools 
to allow us to do this.
    Senator Menendez. I look forward to working with you on 
several of these issues. Thank you.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Thank you.
    Chair Brown. Senator Kennedy from Louisiana is recognized.
    Senator Kennedy. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Secretary the 
Biden administration has operated as Iran's best friend, hasn't 
it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No, I disagree completely, Senator.
    Senator Kennedy. Well, Iran sold Iraq, 10 billion--not 
million--$10 billion worth of electricity. But Iraq couldn't 
pay them because of our sanctions against Iran. Biden 
administration waived those sanctions, didn't it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, that----
    Senator Kennedy. So that Iran could get $10 billion. Isn't 
that a fact?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No, Senator, those waivers started under the 
Trump administration. That money is still in Iraq. That money 
has never been to Tehran. It will never go to Tehran.
    Senator Kennedy. The first waiver was on July, 2023, wasn't 
it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, I believe those waivers started in 
2018.
    Senator Kennedy. The first waiver that the Biden 
administration did was July of 2023, wasn't it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, again, I believe the waiver 
program started in----
    Senator Kennedy. You didn't issue a waiver on July of 2023?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, the waivers were continued into 2023.
    Senator Kennedy. And you issued another waiver to get the 
money to Iran in November of 2023, didn't you?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, as I said, that money has never been, 
will never go to Iran. The money is still in Iraq. The money 
may be used for humanitarian purposes, but not a dollar of that 
money has been used----
    Senator Kennedy. And you issued another waiver on March of 
2024, not too long ago. That was 6 weeks after Iran killed 
three American soldiers. You gave Iraq permission to give Iran 
$10 billion, didn't you?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No. Senator. As I mentioned, this was 
something that started in 2018 under the Trump administration. 
It allowed Iraq to purchase electricity and to store that money 
in Iraq. None of that money to date will ever go to Iran. The 
money is being held for humanitarian purpose.
    Senator Kennedy. You're not telling the truth, Mr. 
Secretary. No disrespect, but that's just not true. Senator 
Menendez and Senator Scott made the point. We all know--unless 
you peaked in high school, you know that money is fungible. You 
also--the Biden administration--also paid Iran $6 billion to 
release five of our prisoners, didn't it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, again, that money is in Qatar. None 
of that money has been used. It hasn't been moved. And as I 
said earlier, while money is fungible in the United States 
because we care about our people, it's not fungible for Iran.
    Senator Kennedy. So, the money's in Qatar, in a bank in 
Qatar?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Yes.
    Senator Kennedy. Now what do you think--who controls that 
bank in Qatar?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Those banks are controlled by those 
individuals who run that financial institution.
    Senator Kennedy. So, if President Biden says Qatar Bank, 
don't give this money to Iran, and the Qatar Government says, 
give the money to Iran. Who you think the Qatar bank's going to 
listen to Mr. Secretary?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, those banks in Qatar value 
greatly their ability to have a relationship with the United 
States, because that's how they make money.
    Senator Kennedy. Right. You believe in the tooth fairy?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Ultimately, if we cutoff those banks, they 
will no longer be able to make money.
    Senator Kennedy. You believe in the Easter Bunny?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, while I understand your point, 
fundamentally, none of that money has gone to Iran and that 
money is not going to go directly to Iran.
    Senator Kennedy. Now you did the same thing with Maduro. 
You meaning the Biden administration. You guys did the same 
thing with Maduro in Venezuela. You removed all the sanctions 
on oil and mining, including gold with Maduro, the dictator of 
Venezuela, didn't you?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, GL44 and 43 were put in place in 
Venezuela. 43 has a----
    Senator Kennedy. Is that a Yes?
    Mr. Adeyemo. GL 43 has been removed.
    Senator Kennedy. So, you said, OK, Maduro, we're going to 
remove you, remove Maduro, best friends with Iran and Cuba and 
China and Russia. The Biden administration removed the 
sanctions on oil and mining in Venezuela----
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator----
    Senator Kennedy. ----and, Maduro said, I promise you that 
I'll hold a free and fair election. And then he put all his 
opponents in jail and the Biden administration has done 
nothing, hasn't it? Except stand there sucking on its teeth.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, I want to say again, we provided 
general licenses. We did not remove the sanctions. The reason 
we did that was because we did not trust. So, what we can do 
with this----
    Senator Kennedy. The sanctions on Maduro's oil are not 
there, are they?
    Mr. Adeyemo. General license 44, which gives permission for 
the sale of oil expires on April 17th, which will then put 
those sanctions back in place. We did not remove the sanctions. 
We provided general license----
    Senator Kennedy. The problem you folks have is that you 
want to quote Socrates in the middle of a bar fight. Iran is 
not our friend. Venezuela is not our friend. President Biden 
keeps giving them money to buy weapons to try to kill us.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, we've put 500----
    Senator Kennedy. Do you not understand that?
    Mr. Adeyemo. ----sanctions on the Iranian regime. We have 
not allowed a dollar from Qatar or from the Iraqi electricity 
fund to flow to Iran.
    Senator Kennedy. That's just not true. Senator Menendez 
explained that to you.
    Mr. Adeyemo. The money----
    Senator Kennedy. How can you be that obtuse?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, as I've said, our goal is to make 
sure that we take every action to prevent Iran's destabilizing 
activity in the region. We're going to continue to go after 
Iran's sale of oil and try and limit their ability as best we 
can using the tools that you've given us. I'm here, before the 
Senate asking for additional tools that will allow us to 
continue to do that.
    Chair Brown. OK. Senator Kennedy you've made your point. 
Senator Warner from Virginia is recognized.
    Senator Warner. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Deputy Secretary 
I've enjoyed working with you for a long time. I'm a little 
unclear. I just want to make sure, and you know, for the 
record, what are the circumstance in Qatar or Iraq? Iraq, I 
know for example, being able to purchase additional 
electricity. Any of those dollars go to Iran?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No, none of those dollars have gone to Iran. 
None of those dollars will go to Iran.
    Senator Warner. No ands, ifs, buts, no secret passageways, 
no other kind of things that may have been alluded to. Are any 
of those U.S. dollars going to Iran?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No, those are not U.S. dollars. Those 
dollars----
    Senator Warner. Those are dollars that were----
    Mr. Adeyemo. ----that money will not be----
    Senator Warner. ----they were dollar denominated that were 
owned by these other Nation States.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Yeah.
    Senator Warner. But even those assets owned by these other 
Nation States that happen to be denominated in dollars through 
any of your--the Trump administration's actions--are any of 
those dollars ending up?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No. And they will never flow to Iran. They 
will never go to directly to Iran.
    Senator Warner. OK. No magic doors. Thank you. One of the--
I do want to talk about what you've are up here on, because I 
do think we need some additional tools. And one of the things I 
say to my colleagues, you know, we--back in 2016--we put in 
place legislation to go in term to secondary sanctions on--I'm 
sorry, Hezbollah.
    Since that time we've seen new ways to move assets around, 
crypto being one, banking systems finding ways around 
sanctions. That's why I put together legislation with Senate 
Reed and Senate Round, Senator Romney called The Special 
Measures to Flight Modern Threats Act.
    Subsequently, I introduced the CANSEE Act to help to deal 
with the efforts to evade sanctions using DeFi. The truth of 
the matter is, you--for all of the angst and anger and concern, 
there's something we could do in a bipartisan way that would be 
really simple. And I still can't completely understand and I've 
talked on to my Republican colleagues who I think are in 
agreement with me, that say the same kind of legislation we put 
in place to go after Hezbollah. Shouldn't we put that kind of 
legislation with those additional tools in place to go after 
Hamas?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Completely agree with you, Senator, and I 
think we've been happy to work with you and the bipartisan 
Members who are interested in working on this legislation.
    Senator Warner. And our bill expands coverage to foreign 
financial entities that facilitate transactions for any 
terrorist group. Again, that whole notion of secondary 
sanctions, so that we can clear up and make sure that no matter 
what talking points you're talking to. You can answer a 
question straightly that, we are going to go after Hamas and 
any of their secondary funders, no matter what form of currency 
or fiat they use. And I know you've been trying to do this with 
Executive order, but I think as you've repeatedly said, you 
need additional tools.
    Mr. Adeyemo. We do. And we appreciate the work that you're 
doing on this tool because we think it'd be useful for us and 
something where we'd be prepared----
    Senator Warner. If we were to have those additional tools. 
Describe specifically what would be--what you could do in terms 
of limiting Hamas' access to fund regardless of their source 
around the world?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Fundamentally, one of the problems today is 
that while we take actions to make it harder and harder for 
Hamas to move money through the traditional financial system. 
What they're attempting to do is to use everything from 
individuals to carry cash to cryptocurrency, to move money into 
Gaza.
    It's hard to move money by people given what's happened--
what's going on with the border. But cryptocurrency is far 
easier. Having a secondary sanctions tool will mean that when 
we take an action, it will pause other actors from touching the 
nodes in the cryptocurrency ecosystem that are potentially 
helping Hamas to move their financial resources and will make 
it harder for them to move them and potentially even stop their 
movement in the place where they exist at the moment.
    Senator Warner. Well, one of the things that I was proud to 
work with the Chairman on and the former Ranking Member, 
Senator Crapo, where we tried to significantly advance AML/KYC, 
kind of the how we figure out who people are doing business 
with and where the bad guys are.
    I personally believe that if we--looking at the Office of 
Terrorism Financial and Independence, or OFAC or FinCEN, these 
entities--even looking back years ago--are under enormous 
strain as we try to track down bad guys sources of funds, 
particularly in an increasingly complex financial world.
    Do these entities, we all agree we do want to go after the 
bad guys, but do these entities need additional resources if 
we're going to give you these additional tools?
    Mr. Adeyemo. They do, Senator. Ultimately what we know is 
that these actors are well-funded and looking to move their 
money as quickly as possible. Making sure that the talented men 
and women who work on these issues have the resources they need 
to go after this problem set is critically important.
    Especially given that from Russia to Hamas, the thing that 
they are looking for as access to money. We need the money to 
hire talented men and women and to pay for the technology 
that's necessary to track their funds and shut them down.
    Senator Warner. Again, I thank you and Mr. Chairman, I 
again appreciate the witness' willingness to restate again for 
the record that these dollars or these resources that were 
owned by other Nation States that happened to be delineated in 
dollars, that whatever sanctions relief that was granted did 
not end up with those resources flowing into Tehran, regardless 
of how much some of my colleagues may say otherwise. Thank you
    Chair Brown. Senator Tillis of North Carolina.
    Senator Tillis. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you for 
being here. Actually, I want to start just by saying I think 
some of the frustration you're going to hear, we could go back 
and forth on whether or not licensing is in fact allowing flow 
of resources. There's an underlying frustration with the 
actually, I think with the Obama administration, and the Biden 
administration on money that has indisputably gone to Iran and 
in connection with the JCPOA.
    We're very frustrated by that because we see them as a 
malign actor that's making the world less safe and certainly 
destabilizing Middle East. So, I admire your poise, although I 
may disagree with a few of your answers. I'm not going to go 
down that path.
    I want to talk more broadly, in the classified briefing I 
mentioned that we wanted to get a punch list of things that we 
could work on around illicit finance, and particularly using 
digital assets to move money around. You provided a document to 
us, and at least a couple of provisions have been instructed in 
a discussion draft that we put out this week called the Enforce 
Act, that I'd like to get with the department and see if we can 
address any concerns that you have.
    For my colleagues, what we're trying to do is provide 
something that I believe that can be implemented that is also 
instructed by the reality of a distributed ledger. I believe 
some of the know your customer, the BSA-AML reporting 
provisions that even the department are considering do not work 
in a distributed ledger environment.
    And so, what we're trying to do is propose something that 
we believe is a good tool and that will not regulate us out of 
being a viable player in the digital asset or crypto space.
    The thing that we have to recognize here, I hear it all the 
time with some of my friends on the other side of the aisle, 
they want more regulations for traditional bankers. At some 
point, we make the United States less attractive for certain 
enterprises to be based. And, crypto is probably--and digital 
assets generally are likely one of the most mobile enterprises 
that can simply go somewhere else, if our reporting 
requirements become too burdensome.
    So, we need a light, lean regimen, I think, to make this 
work. Now to the crypto folks some of them in the Enforce act, 
and I would like to get your read on it. I think that it's a 
good first step. And hopefully we will be able to get Senator 
Hagerty, co-introduce the discussion draft with me this week.
    We can at least have that as a first step. The one thing I 
would tell people in the crypto or digital asset space, that's 
saying, nothing to see here, everything's fine. They're wrong. 
There needs to be some light regulatory regimen put into place, 
otherwise, there are risks. Think FTX, think a lot of other 
issues out there that we want to adjust for.
    We want to create the most hospitable environment for 
digital assets to thrive. We don't want to overreach and lose 
the opportunity to be that jurisdiction. And so, do you, again, 
do you acknowledge the inherent problems with trying to imply 
the old sort of banking construct BSA-AML and know your 
customer to a distributed ledger of digital assets?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, I do think that to your point, we 
have to take a differentiated approach depending on the type of 
tool, and that's why we would use this even under our proposal 
in a risk-based manner. And to your point of trying to make the 
America--the United States a jurisdiction that is able to win 
even in this space, I think one of the proposals we have--in 
our proposal--is giving us the ability to----
    Senator Tillis. How do you calculate the risk base--so 
that's a way of saying, I'm going to put my foot on the 
accelerator or not, based on someone in Treasury's assessment 
of the risk a given entity represents. Is that what you're 
suggesting?
    How does that give me any certainty you know, if I'm in 
this space? Because it seems like to me that could differ from 
an Administration that listens to Thom Tillis on financial 
regulations, first Administration that listens to Elizabeth 
Warren on financial regulations.
    She's a friend and colleague of mine. We have differences 
in terms of the role Government should play or just how far 
down they should go. So, it sounds like to me, that could ebb 
and flow and not necessarily provide certainty that provides 
the sort of fertile ground for us being able to define the gold 
standard of digital assets and crypto regulations?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, the one thing that I think we've 
all seen is that as the crypto ecosystem evolves and it evolves 
quickly, we're going to need to think about the regulatory 
approach as that evolution takes place.
    The goal here is to use the regulatory process to do this. 
And part of the--one of the things that the regulatory process 
provides to these companies is a bit of certainty because 
there's a notice and comment piece of this where those 
companies have the ability to provide feedback, and that once 
those rules are in place, what we found----
    Senator Tillis. What kind of timeframe? My time is up. I 
don't want to go too far over. I did have a closing comment for 
you--Mr. Chair, if I may--But what kind of timeframe are we 
talking about, through notice and comment before you'd 
promulgate a rule?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, it all depends on how complicated 
it is----
    Senator Tillis. Roughly.
    Mr. Adeyemo. ----but it could be as quickly as a year 
before you have a full, you go through a----
    Senator Tillis. So, I guess the question that I have that--
we've got an election coming up--there may be a change of 
Administration. If there is a change of Administration, there 
will be a vastly different view about how you go and regulate 
in this space.
    And so, I for one, would like to look at the possibility of 
working with your office to address some of the things in your 
punch list that we agree with, so that we may be able to get 
regulations on the books in this Congress. That will certainly 
not go as far as some of my colleagues on the other side of the 
aisle want to go, but far short of the wild, wild west that we 
find ourselves in now.
    Mr. Adeyemo. I look forward to working with you on that 
Senator.
    Senator Tillis. And Mr. Chair, the only other thing I was 
going to suggest, I know that we're talking about maybe this 
being illicit finance and terrorism. But Senator Warren and I 
have talked about the broader issue. Cartels, now--it's passe 
to launder the old way--cartels use digital and crypto 
platforms to launder at scale.
    And by scale, I mean in the billions. I think it'd be very 
helpful--I got a briefing about a year and a half ago from DEA, 
I mentioned this to Senator Warren before--I think it'd be very 
helpful to have a joint classified briefing to have Treasury 
and DEA in the room and see how we can, if we get right here 
and we implement a good regulatory regimen. We're going to put 
cartels, transnational criminal organizations and terrorist 
organizations in a much more difficult position to move cash 
around. Because now they're doing it really without any 
obstacles whatsoever.
    Chair Brown. Thank you. Senator Warren of Massachusetts is 
recognized.
    Senator Warren. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman. It's 
good to see you, Deputy Adeyemo and thank you Senator Tillis. I 
just want to follow up in the same area, and if I can, I want 
to lay a little background here. In November, after reports 
that Hamas had received millions of dollars in crypto funding 
in the months before its terrorist attack on Israel, Treasury 
wrote a letter requesting Congress' help in closing the gaps in 
our anti-money laundering rule.
    Deputy Adeyemo, can you explain why you sent us this 
letter? What were you seeing that caused you to send us this 
letter asking for us to change the law?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, as I spoke to my team about 
increasingly targeting Hamas' financial network, what I was 
seeing was the fact that as we went after their traditional 
financial resources in banks, that they were going to turn to 
other means of financing that could frankly even be faster and 
harder for us to track in cryptocurrency.
    And yesterday I had an opportunity to sit down with the 
families of Americans who are being held hostage by Hamas 
today. And they asked me, what, if anything, can we do to 
cutoff their finances? And I explained to them the actions 
we're taking in the traditional financial sector.
    But I told them frankly, that one of the places where we 
need additional tools is to be able to make sure that we don't 
allow Hamas to buildup assets in the digital ecosystem using 
virtual currencies that are hard for us to track. Because that 
is money that they will use to continue to come after, not only 
Israel, but also to destabilize the region.
    Senator Warren. So how is it right now that Hamas has 
access to money or some form thereof of financing for 
themselves?
    Mr. Adeyemo. They are increasingly in my view, turning to 
alternative means of financing, given what we've done in terms 
of their ability to do the traditional financial system.
    Senator Warren. So, what does that mean, alternative means 
of financing?
    Mr. Adeyemo. One of those is cryptocurrency. And 
cryptocurrency is a means that while we're using every tool we 
have, we need additional tools to go after.
    Senator Warren. OK. And it's not just Hamas and terrorists 
that are using crypto financing. North Korea, ransomware gangs, 
drug traffickers, distributors of child sexual abuse 
materials--name your bad guy--and crypto is the way that they 
can move money around.
    Now, your letter that you sent to Congress follows a basic 
principle. Activities with similar functions and similar risks 
should follow similar rules. So, I want to look at an example 
of that. I want to look at one of the middlemen examples, 
validators.
    So, validators are the middlemen between the payer and the 
receiver, and they help process crypto transactions. In the 
traditional banking world, if a bank transacts with somebody 
who's laundering money, then they are breaking the law. But 
validators in the crypto world don't have that same set of 
rules.
    Are there crypto validators right now that are processing 
transactions for North Korea and pocketing a fee for each of 
those transactions? Same for Hamas, same for drug lords and 
child traffickers.
    Mr. Adeyemo. There's reporting that I am familiar with 
that's public about the fact that those threat actors that 
you've mentioned are conducting that type of activity.
    Senator Warren. OK. So bad guys can use crypto right now 
because we don't have the right rules to keep them out. But I 
think it's worse than that. We know, for example, that Iran, 
one of Hamas' biggest funders, makes millions of dollars 
validating transactions for others that have no connection to 
Hamas or Iran.
    So, if I wanted to send a thousand dollars worth of crypto 
to you, Mr. Secretary. Is it possible that when I just send it, 
just to send this, that Iran could be our validator and would 
be collecting a fee processing our crypto. All of that without 
either one of us knowing it?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, a transaction like that is certainly 
possible.
    Senator Warren. OK. So, Iran, which is subject to all kinds 
of sanctions, is moving money through crypto and actually 
making millions of dollars validating crypto transactions for 
Americans and for everyone else. All because we don't have the 
right any money laundering rules in place.
    One more quick question. If the crypto market grows and the 
number of crypto transactions increases, does that mean more 
money would likely end up in Iran's pockets?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Everything that we've seen says that when 
markets grow, threat actors use them more. And we should expect 
that that is what would happen here as well.
    Senator Warren. OK. And more activity, more money. You 
know, currently the house is working on a bill to create a 
regulatory framework for stable coins. Stable coins make it 
easier to convert dollars into crypto and crypto into dollars.
    So, they are an on-ramp into the crypto world. If we're 
going to create new on-ramps increasing traffic, which is 
exactly what the house bill does, then we need a regulatory 
framework that will put the rules for any money laundering in 
place.
    So that we do not have more opportunities for Iran and 
terrorists and drug lords and human traffickers to make more 
money. We've got to get those AML rules in place. Thank you, 
Mr. Secretary.
    Chair Brown. Senator Vance from Ohio is recognized.
    Senator Vance. Thank you Mr. Chair. Thanks to Deputy 
Secretary for being here. I would ask just a couple of 
questions about our sanctions regime and potentially, you know, 
efforts within this body to really ramp up that sanctions 
regime.
    So, you and I, I believe discussed last year, excuse me you 
know, how the sanctions on Russia after Putin's invasion of 
Ukraine. What effect they were having on the Russian economy, 
what effects actually matched our expectations and what effects 
didn't match our expectations.
    You know, we're a little further down the road here it's 
April of 2024. Do we have a good sense of how the Russian 
economy did in 2023, and how effective the sanctions were or 
were not at inhibiting Russian growth?
    Mr. Adeyemo. We have a better sense now than we did earlier 
this year. And to answer your question, Senator, I think what 
we have found is that the Russian economy has largely 
transitioned to a war economy.
    Where all the tools of production have went from building 
out a diversified economy that was styled for long term growth 
to one that is driven by a short term need to build as many 
weapons as possible to further their war aims in Ukraine.
    Senator Vance. And what did their GDP grow last year do you 
know?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Their GDP I believe grew somewhere in the 
neighborhood of one to 2 percent.
    Senator Vance. OK. Which is, you know, frankly at or above 
some of our European allies. And I really do worry here and I 
agree with you that they've transitioned their economy to a war 
footing. That has its own internal momentum.
    And one of the things I worry--I know this isn't your area 
of focus. One of the things I worry some of my colleagues under 
appreciate, is that that war footing has a certain momentum to 
it.
    And we should be trying to arrest that war footing as much 
as possible. Not leaning into it and prolonging this thing. 
Because I worry that once Russia becomes an economy that only 
works in a time of war, that actually makes it more likely 
and--that they're going to show aggression now and in the 
future.
    I want to sort of transition, and Mr. Secretary how aware 
are you of sort of the REPO Act, R-E-P-O, that's sort of moving 
through this chamber? Are you sort of aware broadly with its 
outline?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Yes, I am.
    Senator Vance. OK. So, one of the things that that does, 
and correct me if I'm wrong here because I'm trying to sort of 
think through my own view on it. But one of the really worrying 
provisions is that as I understand it, it would actually freeze 
the current sanctions regime that we have on Russia in place 
legally as an Act of Congress.
    And so, if a future President or a second Biden term wanted 
to change that sanctions regime, they would need an Act of 
Congress to do so. Is that correct?
    Mr. Adeyemo. I'm not certain of that provision. My 
understanding is that it gives the President certain 
authorities, I don't know that it freezes the current regime.
    Senator Vance. OK. That's my understanding at least. But I 
think worth having a follow-up conversation, and certainly my 
staff will follow up as well on that particular topic. Here's 
the thing that I worry about. I imagine that we have different 
preferences for who wins the next Presidential election, Mr. 
Secretary.
    But whether it's President Biden or President Trump, I 
think it's really important for the next Administration to have 
diplomatic flexibilities to negotiate what will certainly, I 
think, be an end to the Russia-Ukraine War. Whatever end that 
ultimately takes. I hope to God that it doesn't last another 5 
years.
    And what I worry about with the REPO Act is that we 
actually--if we are freezing the sanctions regime, we prevent 
the President from having an important tool at his disposal and 
actually negotiating a peaceful settlement to that conflict.
    Let me ask just one final question on the REPO Act. As I 
understand it, it would give--it would effectively force asset 
seizure of all Russian assets. And I'm wondering, you know, 
have we done that in a time of peace with a country that we're 
not directly at war with? Have we ever done something like what 
the REPO Act envisions?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, the one thing I am clear of is 
that my understanding at least is the Senate version of the 
REPO Act gives the President the ability to, doesn't require 
him to do so.
    And I think part of the reason for that is because we know 
that the vast majority of those assets are in Europe, and we'd 
only want to act alongside our European allies if we did 
something like that.
    In terms of seizing the assets against a country that we're 
not engaged in hostility against, I don't know that we have 
done something like that at this juncture.
    Senator Vance. I appreciate that, Mr. Secretary. and with 
that, I yield the remainder of my time. Thanks for being here, 
and thanks for answering my questions. Thanks.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Thank you.
    Chair Brown. Senator Warnock of Georgia is recognized.
    Senator Warnock. Thank you, Chair Brown. The United States 
has become increasingly reliant on sanctions as a foreign 
policy tool over the past 20 years. I remain concerned that 
untargeted sanctions may only harm the poorest of the poor 
throughout the world.
    Oftentimes, economic sanctions as well-intentioned as they 
may be, are not felt by the governing class, the people who are 
actually making the decisions. Instead, they're felt by the 
poor and the meek. Those with little say over the activities of 
those in power, there literally caught in the crossfire. 
There's an old African statement that when the elephants fight 
the grass suffers.
    Deputy Secretary Adeyemo, shortly after you took office in 
2021, you led a broad review of the sanctions administered and 
enforced by the Treasury Department. What were the reviews 
findings regarding how we can best ensure that our sanctions 
have the intended effect and deter bad behavior?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, I appreciate you asking this 
question because I think it is an issue that we don't speak 
enough about, which is that we need to make sure that our 
sanctions are targeted toward the threat actors, and that we do 
as much as possible to reduce the harm against innocent 
individuals.
    That's why one of the findings of the sanctions review was 
the need to have very clear humanitarian carve outs for the 
vast majority of our sanctions programs. But in addition to 
that, we needed to make sure that these sanctions are tied to a 
clear foreign policy objective.
    And that two, they're narrowly targeted in order to make 
sure that we have an impact on the threat actor, but not on the 
overall population. I think the findings of that sanctions 
review has influenced what we've done with regard to Russia and 
continues to influence the way we think about using sanctions 
going forward.
    Senator Warnock. Thank you so much. It's, so important that 
the sanctions do what they're actually intended to do, and that 
we don't create needless harm on suffering in innocent people 
who are already marginalized.
    Speaking of humanitarian aid, and you talked about this 
humanitarian carve outs as part of your response given the 
findings of the study. As you know, Gaza is experiencing right 
now a humanitarian crisis of unspeakable--at unspeakable 
levels. The trickle of aid entering Gaza is not nearly enough, 
not even close, to meet the needs of the Palestinian people. 
And the majority of Palestinians in Gaza are at severe risk of 
famine.
    We must ensure that U.S. policy is not standing in the way 
of providing urgent humanitarian assistance to Palestinian 
civilians, particularly the children. And at the same time, 
there's a real risk of terrorist groups like Hamas diverting 
aid for its own benefit.
    That's why I was glad to see Treasury issue guidance on 
providing humanitarian assistance to the Palestinian people 
without inadvertently financing Hamas very shortly after 
October 7th.
    Deputy Secretary Adeyemo can you update us on the 
implementation of this guidance regarding issuance of general 
licenses and regarding oversight?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, one of the things--the early 
things we did after Hamas' brutal attack on Israel was take 
actions to go after Hamas' finances. But we also sat down with 
financial institutions and humanitarian groups to make sure 
that they had the ability to continue to provide legitimate aid 
and financial assistance in Gaza.
    One of the things that we learned at that point was the 
challenge wasn't U.S. sanctions given our humanitarian carve 
out, but was the sanctions put in place by some of our allies.
    Soon after I traveled to Europe and with our European 
allies, worked with them to put in place a similar humanitarian 
carve out in their program in order to put us all in the same 
position where we could both target actions to go after Hamas, 
but to ensure that legitimate humanitarian assistance can flow 
through.
    My goal and my team's goal is to continue to meet with 
financial institutions, but also with aid groups to ensure that 
our sanctions are in no way prohibiting the legitimate flow of 
financial resources and other resources into Gaza.
    Because to your point, I agree that not enough is being 
done, not enough is getting through. And we have to do 
everything in our power to make sure that we change that 
dynamic.
    Senator Warnock. So, what needs to happen for the delivery 
of aid to be more effective?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, this is not primarily in my 
domain. The issues that are in my domain though are making sure 
that financial resources are able to flow. And the goal there 
has to be the continued engagement, not only of the United 
States Government, but of the U.K. Government and the EU 
Government.
    The countries that are primarily putting sanctions in place 
with our financial institutions and with our humanitarian 
groups to ensure that they are not in any way being blocked in 
the delivery of legitimate humanitarian assistance.
    What I've heard from those groups to date is that the 
challenge they face is a fiscal one in terms of being able to 
get aid in not a financial one. And, but what I've also told 
them is the moment they feel as if in some way they have a 
financial block, I want them to call me immediately.
    Because our goal is to make sure that our sanctions are 
targeted toward Hamas, not toward impacting the innocent 
Palestinian people.
    Senator Warnock. I couldn't agree more. Thank you so very 
much. We have to work to ensure that there's rigorous oversight 
of aid to Palestinians working also with our European and other 
allies to both ensure that it actually provides assistance to 
those in need.
    And we want to certainly make sure that Hamas does not 
divert any sort of aid for its own purposes. Thank you so very 
much, Mr. Secretary.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Thank you.
    Chair Brown. Thanks, Senator Warnock. Senator Britt of 
Alabama is recognized.
    Senator Britt. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will get right to 
it. Thank you so much for being here. I appreciate the 
opportunity to have the conversation. Is there any doubt in 
your mind that the Iranian regime is the largest State sponsor 
of terrorism against the United States and our allies across 
the globe?
    Mr. Adeyemo. None, Senator.
    Senator Britt. None. So, when we look at this, you know, I 
take a step back and kind of--it's frustrating for me because I 
see this Administration take a posture of appeasement. When I'm 
looking at it, you look from the decline of the strategy of 
maximum pressure under the previous Administration to kind of 
where we are now.
    And I'm thinking if we all agree that Iran is the largest 
State sponsor of terrorism, why wouldn't we be using, you know, 
every tool in our toolbox to make sure that we prevent them 
from benefiting financially?
    And so, we've seen Iran's oil profits soar since January, 
2021, reaching over 80 billion and counting. And its steel 
exports have actually increased twofold. So, I guess my 
question is, has the Biden administration's enforcement 
authorities--have your sanctions enforcement authorities been 
limited at all since you've gotten to Treasury?
    Mr. Adeyemo. No, Senator. We've put in place 571 sanctions 
against the Iranian regime. And I know that we've spoken 
personally about what's happening with steel, where we've 
sanctioned the top steel producers in Iran. And the steel 
they're selling today is illicit and illegal. We have to do 
more and must do more to cutoff that illicit transaction. But 
those companies have been sanctioned by us.
    Senator Britt. So, let's talk about the steel specifically. 
What more do you think we could be doing? What tools do you 
need or could we use at a greater level in order to crack down 
on that?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, one of the things we have to do 
and that we are doing is working closely with the intelligence 
community to find out how they're illicitly selling what is 
illegal steel at this point. To go after those nodes that are 
helping them to do that. So, what you should expect is we're 
going to continue to take actions there.
    One of the reasons I'm here though is that you mentioned 
oil and while Iran is selling oil, one of the challenges 
they're having is getting the money back to Iran. Given what 
we're doing in the financial sector.
    The thing that I am worried about is that Iran will 
increasingly turn from using the formal financial sector to 
move their assets and increasingly use cryptocurrency because 
we don't have tools there.
    Senator Britt. Well, if you just look at where you are 
right here on--so if you look at, you know, we hit Iran's oil, 
you mentioned the oil exports receipt. They reached a 5-year 
high last year of 42 billion compared to, if you look at the 
2020 numbers, 7.9 billion. What do you attribute to that 
difference?
    Mr. Adeyemo. One of the things that the Iranians are 
increasingly doing is, they're consistently looking for ways to 
do everything from ship-to-ship transfers, using the gray 
fleet, using intermediaries to try and sell their oil.
    While we've put in place more than 500 sanctions against 
Iran, what we're finding is that the Iranian regime, given 
their desperate need for cash, is doing things to try and get 
around our sanctions.
    So, we're going to continue to use our sanctions 
authorities, but ultimately that is going to continue to make 
it more costly for Iran to try and get around them, but they're 
going to continue to try.
    Senator Britt. Are there any kind of--given the data points 
of this past year and it being a high versus where we were in 
2020. Are there any tools in your toolbox that you're not using 
to the fullest extent possible?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, Senator, I think the thing that I've asked 
my team to do is to come back to me and talk about what else we 
can do. And I think the key for us is not only what the United 
States can do, but how do we build an international coalition, 
frankly. Because one of the things that we benefited from in 
the past was that it wasn't just the United States acting, but 
we were acting alongside our allies and partners.
    And while today we've been able to get in other countries 
to come alongside actions we've taken against UAVs when it 
comes to Iran and some of their military components, we've been 
less successful in terms of going after their petrochemical 
industry.
    So, I think part of this is a diplomatic effort to get 
other countries to join us and taking those actions because 
what Iran is doing is that they're moving their petrochemical 
industry into the shadows and they have--and they're doing 
things that have fewer touch points with the U.S. dollar, which 
is the thing that I can use. So, we need to get other----
    Senator Britt. Are there loopholes specifically that 
they're using with regards to Russia and China that where we 
need to close those?
    Mr. Adeyemo. So, in terms of the petrochemical industry, 
they're actually a competitor to Russia because fundamentally 
they're selling the same thing on the market. So, I think they 
are not working together in this space.
    I think from my standpoint, we're using the tools that 
you've given us to try and impact them using our dollar-based 
tools. But they're often trying to transact in ways using 
everything from front companies to other currencies that 
require us to build a broader coalition.
    Senator Britt. So last thing, I only have a few seconds 
left. When you look at the switching gears at the Corporate 
Transparency Act for small businesses, what are you doing to 
ensure small businesses are aware of those new reporting 
requirements?
    Mr. Adeyemo. One of the things I'm personally doing is 
speaking to small business interest groups and talking to them 
about what we can do to try and make sure that the small 
businesses they represent know about the Act.
    And I think one of the things that we would appreciate is 
working with your offices so that we can go back to your 
district offices and do presentations about how small 
businesses can sign up. Fundamentally, what we know is that the 
vast majority of small businesses throughout our country want 
to do the right thing, will want to sign up.
    And by doing that, it allows us to find those illegitimate 
small businesses that are often creating threats. So I'm happy 
to work with your office to set up webinars in your district to 
send people down to your States to help make sure your small 
businesses are aware.
    But we're launching an all-out campaign to make sure that 
small businesses throughout the country are aware of the need 
to register.
    Senator Britt. Excellent. I just want to make sure that 
they have that outreach. So look forward to working with you on 
that. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Thank you.
    Chair Brown. Senator Cortez Masto of Nevada.
    Senator Cortez Masto. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Deputy 
Secretary, it's good to see you.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Good to see you as well.
    Senator Cortez Masto. Thank you for being here. Last year, 
Treasury's Office of Foreign Asset Control brought sanction 
against several individuals and companies involved in the 
manufacturing and distribution of fentanyl among other illicit 
drugs.
    In addition to sanctioning these individuals, OFAC 
identified several cryptocurrency addresses associated with 
these known traffickers. And OFAC investigation shows a 
pervasive and deep interconnectedness of illicit drug 
trafficking and crypto.
    The addresses identified by OFAC collectively received just 
under $3.8 million worth of cryptocurrency. So, my question to 
you is, do you think Treasury has the adequate tools and 
expertise to effectively combat the use of crypto in financing 
drug trafficking rings? And if you don't, what do you need?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, several months ago, Secretary Yellen 
set up a strike force to go after fentanyl because she sees the 
threat that it presents, not only to American lives, but to our 
national security as well. And what we know is that these 
actors, these drug kingpins who are often just criminal 
business executives, are increasingly moving to using crypto, 
as you mentioned.
    And the reason I'm here is because we need additional tools 
from you and the Senate to go after them. Those tools include 
the ability for us to, for example, go after cryptocurrencies 
or other parts of the crypto ecosystem that claim to be dollar 
backed, but to be trying to escape U.S. jurisdiction. Which 
makes it harder for us to go after them.
    We also need to update the definitions in our rules. So, 
they include the crypto ecosystem, so the Bank Secrecy Act, and 
also IEEPA. And finally, we would like to have a secondary 
sanctions regime that allows us to also make clear to 
traditional financial institutions that you should not engage 
with parts of the crypto ecosystem that are doing illicit 
transactions.
    Senator Cortez Masto. Thank you. And would the FEND Off 
Fentanyl Act support your enforcement actions?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Taking actions like that and taking actions 
that would provide us with additional authorities to go after 
fentanyl would be quite helpful. I think the challenge we have 
is that taking those actions in the traditional financial 
system will mean that more of these actors will likely turn to 
things like virtual currencies to try and escape us, unless we 
update and reform some of the rules that we have today for 
going after those actors.
    Senator Cortez Masto. I'm interested also in learning 
about--and this is a new term because of crypto. But learning 
about cryptocurrency mixers, and you talked a little bit about 
that, that help facilitate illicit financing.
    My understanding is that mixers are crypto platforms that 
enable users to exchange cryptocurrency anonymously, by 
blending the cryptocurrencies of many users to obfuscate the 
origins and owners of the funds. And in 2022, almost 10 percent 
of all crypto addresses tied to illicit activity were laundered 
through mixers.
    So, Deputy Secretary, can you explain a little bit about 
these mixers and the acute risk of bad actors using them to 
engage in illicit finance?
    Mr. Adeyemo. Senator, I think you made it very clear what 
they are. They are ways for people and for entities to hide 
their identity and to move money illicitly through the crypto 
ecosystem with the hope that they can turn that into hard 
currency at some other point, and be able to get access to 
their ill-gotten gains.
    We've taken some actions against mixers, including using a 
311 action to go after them. But my concern is that without the 
tools that we have requested from the Senate, we don't have the 
ability to go after these parts of the virtual currency 
ecosystem that that are being used by threat actors, but may 
not be based or have U.S. jurisdiction.
    That's why we think it's essential that we get these tools 
because as we take steps to go after the traditional financial 
system, where we have a great deal of visibility where these 
threat actors exist, they're naturally going to turn to new 
tools like mixers to hide their identity.
    Senator Cortez Masto. Absolutely. And that's why I 
appreciate the need for the expanded tools of enforcement for 
areas like this and support it.
    Mr. Adeyemo. Thank you.
    Senator Cortez Masto. I do think it is so important we 
address the use of cryptocurrency for money laundering and to 
engage in illicit activities for so many reasons. So, thank you 
for being here again. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
    Chair Brown. Thank you, Senator Cortez Masto. OK. Mr. 
Secretary, thank you for joining us, for being here and 
providing testimony. Senators who wish to submit questions for 
the record, those questions are due 1 week from today, Tuesday, 
April 16th. The witness will have 45 days to respond to those. 
Thank you, again.
    The meeting's adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:59 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]
    [Prepared statements and responses to written questions 
supplied for the record follow:]
               PREPARED STATEMENT OF CHAIR SHERROD BROWN
    We face threats to American national security and global stability 
every day.
    Autocrats and terrorists and drug traffickers work to undermine our 
economy, our values, and our way of life.
    Sophisticated international cartels traffic fentanyl into our 
communities. China supplies precursor chemicals to Mexican cartels, 
feeding our deadly fentanyl epidemic.
    Russia's brutal invasion of Ukraine continues, and Putin looks for 
new ways to fund his war machine.
    Iran is financing terrorist proxies that wreak havoc all over the 
Middle East, from Hamas' brutal October 7th attack on Israel, to the 
Houthi attacks on shipping in the Red Sea and Hezbollah's menacing 
activity.
    All of these bad actors need one thing: money.
    Terrorists, fentanyl traffickers, the Russian military--they all 
need to spend and move money, and they all use the financial system, in 
a variety of ways, to do it.
    That's why we must use all available economic tools to defend 
American interests and American values.
    That means denying bad actors access to the global financial system 
and broadening our coalition of partners to prevent terrorism and the 
flow of illicit finance that supports drug traffickers and money 
launderers.
    Terrorists, criminals, and rogue Nations will never stop in their 
efforts to evade our sanctions regime. We must be equally vigilant.
    Vigilance requires that our national security leaders have the 
authorities and the resources they need to stay ahead of these bad 
actors.
    Today, we will hear from Deputy Treasury Secretary Adeyemo and 
discuss our strategy for combatting illicit finance.
    Treasury leads the work to stop illicit actors from exploiting the 
international financial systems to fund their crimes and terror 
activity.
    Deputy Secretary Adeyemo should provide an assessment of the 
effectiveness of our recent sanctions enforcement efforts. And we will 
hear about what statutory gaps stand in the way of our ability to root 
out and stop illicit finance.
    Congress must respond.
    Last year, this Committee worked together in a bipartisan way to 
design a new sanctions program--the FEND Off Fentanyl Act--that can 
help reduce the flow of fentanyl into our communities.
    FEND Off Fentanyl has 67 cosponsors. It passed out of our Committee 
unanimously. It passed in the Senate--twice.
    Americans can't wait any longer. This needs to get to the 
President's desk and be signed into law.
    As FEND makes clear, our Committee plays a critical role in 
protecting our communities and protecting our national security. This 
Committee works to strengthen tools we have to go after anyone who 
threatens us, and it conducts oversight over how the Administration 
uses those tools, including their use of waivers or exceptions.
    And when bad actors turn to new routes to raise and move money--
like crypto--this Committee must respond. Our adversaries are going to 
innovate, and we must make sure our illicit finance tools keep up.
    Last November, the Justice Department, in an effort led by the U.S. 
Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio and the DEA, charged eleven 
people in a drug ring. They allegedly trafficked fentanyl, synthetic 
opioids, and other drugs across Ohio, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and 
Tennessee.
    And they paid their suppliers in Bitcoin.
    Just last week, the Wall Street Journal reported how Russian 
smugglers use the stablecoin Tether to evade sanctions on Russia's war 
machine. Tether is a ``key step in the chain'' of illicit transactions, 
one smuggler said.
    North Korea has hacked, stolen, and laundered hundreds of millions 
of dollars in crypto--a strategy to avoid sanctions.
    All these bad actors--from North Korea to Russia to terrorist 
groups like Hamas--aren't turning to crypto because they've seen the 
ads and bought the hype.
    They're using it because they know it's a workaround. They know 
that it's easier to move money in the shadows without safeguards, like 
know-your-customer rules or suspicious transaction reporting.
    These commonsense protections help identify illicit money and keep 
it out of the financial system.
    We must make sure that crypto platforms play by the same rules as 
other financial institutions. And we need to make sure that we have the 
tools to crack down on illicit finance with digital assets, just as we 
would with any other asset.
    Many, including the Deputy Secretary, have pointed out possible 
gaps in illicit finance authorities over digital assets. It's time we 
worked together to close any loopholes and protect our national 
security.
    We need to think not just about how terror groups and drug 
traffickers use crypto today, but also about how they could exploit it 
tomorrow.
    If we leave loopholes on the books, this problem will only get 
worse. We can't take that risk.
    Given the range of threats we face, it is clear that the 
Administration needs to do more to use its illicit finance tools to 
stop terrorism; to push back on Iran, Russia, and China; and to stop 
the funding streams to the traffickers supplying illicit fentanyl to 
our children and our communities.
    I look forward to hearing from the Deputy Secretary this morning.
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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF SENATOR TIM SCOTT
    Thank you, Mr. Chairman, and the Secretary, thank you for being 
here with us this morning.
    Today is an important opportunity to discuss American leadership, 
especially on the global stage.
    I've often said that we, the United States, must leverage our 
international toolkit to stop bad actors, curb illicit activity, and 
protect American families.
    Thankfully, agencies like the Treasury Department already have 
robust toolkits available, as well as in instances where additional 
direction is needed, I have not shied away from providing more 
resources and direction like those in my FEND Off Fentanyl legislation 
and my Revoke Iranian Funding Act, as well.
    So I appreciate having you here with us this morning.
    South Carolina is the proud home to many of our U.S. 
servicemembers, their families, and our veterans.
    I'm proud of this fact and my important duty to serve their 
interests.
    Which is why it was particularly profound and deeply troubling when 
three U.S. servicemembers were killed in January's Iranian-backed 
terror attack.
    I will keep saying this, because it's true, every dollar this 
Administration gives to Iran is another dollar that will be used 
against our sons and daughters and puts them in harm's way in the 
military.
    Thankfully, the Treasury Department has the ability to stop the 
dollars moving around our global economy that bolsters the Iranian 
regime.
    However, this White House has reduced those barriers through so-
called electricity waivers with expanded currency access to euros, 
licenses, and further billion-dollar payouts.
    Going even so far as to give a lifeline to Nicholas Maduro's 
corrupt regime in Venezuela, a known ally of Iran, China, Russia, and 
Cuba--an axis of terror--through broad oil and gas sanctions relief.
    Of which we have seen no benefit to U.S. national security or to 
the Venezuelan people who suffer under Maduro.
    This is beyond troubling.
    Especially when our servicemembers are killed in terror attacks by 
Iranian proxies and our families here at home are struggling to put 
food on the table.
    When we look here at home, there's not a single neighborhood, 
whether that's Charleston, South Carolina, or Cleveland, Ohio, that has 
escaped the death grip of fentanyl.
    And I'm very proud of this Committee's work to address this crisis, 
and for the support of all the Members of this Committee working 
together to stop this deadly drug.
    Because what fentanyl, produced and trafficked by the Mexican 
cartels and supported through Chinese precursors, has done to our 
communities is a national security crisis.
    I remain committed to seeing this legislation pass into law and to 
stopping the flow of illicit money and drugs across our border.
    Every family in America deserves to be free from the scourge of 
this deadly drug.
    I started with these two issues because I believe they should be 
top of mind for this Administration and this Committee.
    And yet, just last week, Secretary Yellen was in China to discuss 
how cheap Chinese exports of green energy technology are harming 
electric vehicles and solar energy here in the United States.
    This is a clear climate goal of this Administration, but far from 
the top goal we should be pushing back China on.
    A perspective that's frankly hard to stomach when Hamas is enabled 
by support from Iran to carry out horrific attacks against our ally 
Israel.
    All while China continues to be the top purchaser of Iranian oil 
and top financier to international web of illicit financing used by the 
Mexican cartels to kill people using fentanyl.
    This needs to stop. Saving lives cannot play second fiddle to 
progressive climate goals.
    We need to see real efforts by China to stop these activities that 
undermine U.S. national security interests.
    America must be a strong leader.
    Fentanyl and terrorism are leading threats and should be treated as 
such.
    American families deserve to know that their Government is 
protecting them of these threats and punishing those who trouble us.
    Thank you, and thank you for holding this hearing, and I look 
forward for the opportunity to question the witness.
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                PREPARED STATEMENT OF ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO
              Deputy Secretary, Department of the Treasury
                             April 9, 2024
    Chairman Brown, Ranking Member Scott, and Members of the Committee, 
thank you for the invitation to join you here today.
    As you all know, the Department of Treasury--alongside our 
colleagues across the U.S. Government--have committed to using our 
tools to protect our national security. Today, I'm grateful for the 
opportunity to talk with you about the ways we can continue driving 
this work forward.
    As we take steps to cut terrorist groups and other malign actors 
off from the traditional financial system, they look for innovative 
ways to move resources. Over the past several years, we have seen 
terrorist groups trying to take advantage of innovations in 
cryptocurrencies. For example, 5 years ago, al-Qaeda and affiliated 
terrorist groups, largely based out of Syria, operated a bitcoin money 
laundering network using social media platforms to solicit 
cryptocurrency donations. After receiving virtual currency, they 
laundered the proceeds through various online gift card exchanges to be 
able to purchase what they needed to advance their violent agenda.
    More recently, over the past year, we have seen the Islamic 
Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) transfer cryptocurrency 
to Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) in Gaza. In addition, 
we have seen Hamas use virtual currencies to solicit small-dollar 
donations, and we have been able to take action against these networks.
    Our problem is that actors are increasingly finding ways to hide 
their identities and move resources using virtual currency. What has 
always been true is that terrorists and other malign actors seek new 
ways to move their resources in light of the actions we are taking to 
cut them off from accessing the traditional financial system.
    Today, because of the authorities Congress has provided us, we have 
a long track record of taking action to make it harder for these groups 
to use the traditional financial system to move money. We continue to 
use our authorities aggressively to cut off the illicit finance 
networks that enable illicit actors worldwide, including Hamas and 
other Iran-backed proxies, Russian oligarchs, and ISIS, to name a few.
    The more effective our targeting has been, the more reason there is 
for these terrorist groups to look into virtual assets. And, to be 
clear, it's not only terrorist groups, but State actors like the DPRK 
and Russia as well.
    The DPRK, which through numerous complex State-sponsored cyber 
heists, is able to acquire, launder, and store illicit revenue. It 
relies on anonymity-enhancing technologies like mixers to hide the 
sources of its funds. And it leverages over-the-counter digital assets 
traders to acquire
    fiat currency. In addition, we've seen Russia increasingly turning 
to alternative payment mechanisms--including the stablecoin tether--to 
try to circumvent our sanctions and continue to finance its war 
machine.
    While we have had some success in rooting out illicit finance in 
the digital asset ecosystem, we need to build an enforcement regime 
that is capable of preventing this activity as more terrorists, 
transnational criminals, and rogue States turn to digital assets. 
That's why we sent the Committee proposals to strengthen counter-
terrorist financing authorities, and we look forward to working with 
the Committee on your ideas and proposals.
    The options I sent over to the Committee in November focused 
broadly on three reforms. The first is the introduction of a secondary 
sanctions tool targeted at foreign digital asset providers that 
facilitate illicit finance. Today, Treasury has authorities that enable 
us--in many cases--to prohibit U.S. correspondent accounts and 
transaction processing for foreign financial institutions that have 
operated with a designated person. These authorities have enabled us to 
disrupt high-priority illicit finance streams in Russia, Iran, and 
North Korea. But, unlike banks, foreign cryptocurrency exchanges and 
some money services businesses do not have or depend on correspondent 
accounts for all of their transactions. A new secondary sanctions tool 
would help Treasury to evolve its targeting capabilities and would 
account for the technological changes that have rendered highly 
effective tools in traditional payments contexts less effective against 
virtual currencies.
    The second reform centered on modernizing and closing gaps in 
existing authorities by expanding their reach to explicitly cover the 
key players and core activities of the digital assets ecosystem. 
Entities such as virtual asset service providers (VASPs) and 
cryptocurrency exchanges didn't exist when the BSA and IEEPA were 
enacted, but we know that today, they play a major role in how currency 
moves digitally and should be regulated as such.
    Finally, a third reform addresses jurisdictional risk from offshore 
cryptocurrency platforms, which is a key challenge. By reforming 
existing authorities, we can clarify that our authorities can reach 
extraterritorially when digital asset entities harm our national 
security while taking advantage of our financial system. This will also 
promote a level playing field for U.S.-based VASPs.
    There is clear overlap between these proposals and the bills coming 
out of this Committee. We agree that the use of these emerging 
technologies by illicit actors can have impacts on the national 
security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States. That's why 
the United States has a strong interest in ensuring that our tools and 
authorities are available and ready to mitigate the risks in this 
quickly evolving ecosystem, including for dollar-based digital assets 
in particular.
    As you know, my team has been actively involved in providing 
technical assistance on these topics and we are working to find 
solutions that balance the threat, our current capabilities, and where 
we may require additional authorities. The Treasury Department is eager 
to continue working together through the details of this Committee's 
proposals. We all share the common aim of ensuring that in the pursuit 
of technological innovation we do not disregard the safeguards that 
instill trust and reliability in the U.S. financial sector.
    While we continue to assess that terrorists prefer to use 
traditional financial products and services, we fear that without 
Congressional action to provide us with the necessary tools, the use of 
virtual assets by these actors will only grow. We are grateful for the 
partnership of Congress and this Committee in helping Treasury root out 
illicit finance from the U.S. financial system and to hold illicit 
actors accountable. I look forward to today's discussion on how we can 
continue this work.
        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR SCOTT
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. I remain extremely concerned by this Administration's 
pattern of sanctions relief to Iran. Any dollar to Iran can be 
used to facilitate its terrorist activities and nuclear 
developments. In light of this could you provide an accounting 
of all Iranian assets over $1 million that are currently 
blocked by U.S. sanctions?

A.1. Yes. To the extent that the relevant blocks were reported 
to OFAC in accordance with its Reporting, Procedures and 
Penalties Regulations (31 CFR Part 501), OFAC can provide an 
estimate of Iranian assets valued over $1 million that are 
currently blocked pursuant to OFAC regulations.
    As of May 2, 2024, OFAC estimates that there is 
approximately $241 million in blocked Iranian assets that were 
reported to OFAC as valued over $1 million.

Q.2. Regarding the previously mentioned blocked assets, what 
steps is the Treasury Department taking to ensure that these 
funds remain blocked and inaccessible to Iran?

A.2. Iranian assets blocked pursuant to OFAC sanctions may not 
be transferred or otherwise dealt in without prior 
authorization from OFAC. Blocked assets of the Government of 
Iran held in the United States are often attached by terrorism 
victims seeking to satisfy judgments against Iran, and other 
blocked Iranian assets may be subject to seizure and, 
ultimately, forfeiture, by the U.S. Department of Justice 
pursuant to civil and criminal authorities. OFAC generally does 
not authorize Iran to have access to blocked funds and would 
only authorize the transfer of blocked Iranian assets in 
exceptional circumstances.

Q.3. What steps is the Treasury Department taking to ensure 
that Iran does not leverage these funds as collateral for 
loans?

A.3. Iranian assets blocked in U.S. jurisdiction pursuant to 
OFAC sanctions may not be used as collateral for loans. \1\ In 
addition, Treasury continues to monitor information regarding 
Iran's attempts to gain access to loans and other financial 
resources from third countries. Such transactions could be 
subject to a range of sanctions, including, sanctions impacting 
the correspondent and payable through accounts of foreign 
financial institutions that engage in significant transactions 
with Iranian persons on OFAC's List of Specially Designated 
Nationals and Blocked Persons (SDN List). Foreign financial 
institutions risk being sanctioned by the United States for 
facilitating such transactions.
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     \1\ eCFR 31 CFR 560.213--Holding of funds in interest-bearing 
accounts; investment and reinvestment.

Q.4. Have there been any documented instances of Iran or the 
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps abusing so-called 
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humanitarian transactions?

A.4. Restricting IRGC funding is a top Treasury priority. 
Treasury continues to use all available authorities to degrade 
IRGC revenue streams. In the last several months, we have taken 
multiple actions targeting IRGC-QF commercial activities, 
designating front companies in jurisdictions including the PRC 
involved in the sale of hundreds of millions of dollars' worth 
of Iranian commodities, including oil, for the benefit of IRGC-
QF.
    Additionally, humanitarian funds are being closely 
monitored in relevant jurisdictions, and the U.S. Government 
remains in close communication with those Governments and 
financial institutions holding restricted Iranian funds in 
order to prevent diversion.

Q.5. Iranian oil shipments have greatly expanded under your 
watch leading to upwards of tens of billions in yearly extra 
revenue for the Iranian regime. The attached chart shows the 
decrease in oil production that occurred during the Trump 
administration, which went from roughly 1.8 million barrels of 
oil per day at the start of the Administration to roughly 
400,000 barrels of oil per day by the end of the 
Administration. Now, Iran is exporting over 1 million barrels 
of oil per day, a daily increase of 600,000 barrels under the 
Biden administration. This extra revenue is deeply concerning.

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    Why have Iran's oil exports increased under the Biden 
administration?

A.5. Under this Administration, Treasury has sanctioned more 
than 200 entities and individuals involved in the production, 
sale, and transfer of Iranian petroleum and petrochemical 
products abroad. We attribute the rise in Iranian oil sales, at 
least in part, to the recovering demand in global oil markets 
coming out of the pandemic. As economies recover and demand 
grows, we have seen an increase in entities willing to purchase 
or facilitate the sale of sanctioned oil, despite the risk of 
U.S. sanctions.

Q.6. What specific steps are you personally and the Treasury 
Department more broadly taking to stop, or at least slow down, 
Chinese refineries that currently buy 90 percent of Iran's 
sanctioned oil?

A.6. Treasury continues to leverage multiple Iran, 
counterterrorism, and counterproliferation authorities to 
target Iran's export of oil and other energy sector 
commodities.
    Under this Administration, Treasury has sanctioned more 
than 200 entities and individuals involved in the production, 
sale, and transfer of Iranian petroleum and petrochemical 
products abroad. Since January 2024, Treasury has sanctioned 
over 20 Iranian petroleum brokers and 22 ghost fleet tankers 
involved in shipping of Iranian oil. In early February, we 
sanctioned Hong Kong-based IRGC-QF front company China Oil and 
Petroleum Company Limited, which has arranged contracts and 
sold hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of Iranian 
commodities for the benefit of IRGC-QF. Since December, OFAC 
has issued six rounds of sanctions targeting the network of 
IRGC-QF and Houthi financial facilitator Sa'id al-Jamal, to 
include a range of shipping facilitators and vessels in 
multiple jurisdictions helping the network illicitly ship 
Iranian commodities to the People's Republic of China (PRC). In 
late November 2023, Treasury sanctioned over 20 persons for 
their involvement in the sale of the equivalent of billions of 
dollars' worth of oil and other commodities, the proceeds from 
which benefited Iran's Ministry of Defense and Armed Forces 
Logistics (MODAFL) and the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps--
Qods Force (IRGC-QF). In late January we sanctioned three 
entities and one individual in Lebanon and Turkiye that have 
generated hundreds of millions of dollars' worth of revenue for 
the IRGC-QF and Hizballah from selling Iranian commodities, 
including to the Syrian Government. Additionally, in late 
April, we designated MODAFL's main front company involved in 
the sale of the equivalent of billions of dollars' worth of 
Iranian commodities, Sahara Thunder, and a dozen shipping 
facilitators.

Q.7. Does the Treasury Department need additional authorities 
to combat Iranian oil exports?

A.7. Treasury leverages multiple authorities, as appropriate, 
to combat Iranian oil exports, including both counterterrorism 
and counterproliferation authorities, as well as Iran-specific 
authorities that allow us to target specific Iranian economic 
activities.

Q.8. I have several concerns regarding the Administration's 
shift in its usage of waivers that have allowed Iraq to 
purchase electricity from Iran. In House Testimony, Assistant 
Secretary Rosenberg identified that at least two transactions 
have occurred. We cannot make it easier for Iran to access 
funding abroad. As you mentioned in your verbal testimony, the 
Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps will abuse any form of 
funding to fuel violence.
    Since Assistant Secretary Rosenberg's testimony, have any 
more transactions from the Iraq electric waiver accounts 
occurred?

A.8. Regarding restricted Iranian funds held in Oman referenced 
in Assistant Secretary Rosenberg's testimony, due to changing 
circumstances in the region, we requested, and the Omani 
Government agreed, that financial institutions suspend all 
transactions through the channel. There have been no further 
transactions.

Q.9. The proceeds of Iranian electricity sales to Iraq held in 
restricted accounts at the Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI) are 
permitted to be used exclusively for the purchase of 
humanitarian goods by Iran, as well as for a limited number of 
other nonsanctioned purposes subject to separate approval by 
Treasury. Across U.S. administrations, TBI has processed these 
types of transactions from restricted Iranian funds, mostly for 
agricultural commodities and medicine. TBI maintains a contract 
with a major, independent financial consulting firm to review 
each transaction for money laundering and terrorist financing 
risks. Treasury receives all reports from this independent 
monitor, including all trade documents. There are a limited 
number of international companies permitted to receive funds 
for these sales of humanitarian goods to Iran. Was anything 
suspicious identified from the transactions and has Treasury 
stopped any of the transactions?

A.9. There have been no subsequent transactions out of the 
humanitarian channel in Oman. The Oman channel's operation and 
stringent reporting requirements made possible an investigation 
into one transaction that raised potential trade-based money 
laundering concerns. Reports produced on a regular basis made 
Treasury aware of a potential problem, and we took immediate 
remedial steps to address our concerns. We continue to engage 
with our Omani partners to better understand this transaction.

Q.10. Why did your Administration change the Iraq electric 
waivers to allow Iraqi Dinars to be converted to euros? Why 
were Oman, France, and Italy added to the waiver?

A.10. The State Department waiver applies to payments by Iraq 
into restricted accounts at the Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI) in 
dinars as well as in euros. In general, foreign financial 
institutions, including TBI, manage their foreign exchange 
consistent with their own reserve management policies. The 
funds that moved from restricted accounts in Iraq to restricted 
accounts in Oman were in euros and remain in euros. No currency 
conversions were affected as part of the transfer to Oman, and 
the transfer from the TBI to Oman was executed completely 
outside the U.S. financial system.
    For specific questions related to the waiver, Treasury 
defers to the State Department. We understand, from the State 
Department, that these jurisdictions are not seeking oil 
imports, but are jurisdictions that may have correspondent 
banking relationships or recipient banks in connection with the 
funds transfers covered by this waiver.

Q.11. Are Oman, France, and Italy purchasing oil subject to 
U.S. sanctions from Iran?

A.11. We understand, from the State Department, that these 
jurisdictions are not seeking oil imports, but are 
jurisdictions that may have correspondent banking relationships 
or recipient banks in connection with the funds transfers 
covered by this waiver.

Q.12. What are the exact amount of funds that have been 
transferred from Iraq to Oman under the Waiver?

A.12. Under Secretary Nelson testified to the House Financial 
Services Committee on February 14, 2024, that about $500 
million EUR have been transferred from restricted accounts in 
Iraq to restricted accounts in Oman under the Iraq electricity 
waiver.

Q.13. I am concerned that under your watch, the U.N.'s 
ballistic missile sanctions on Iran ended. We must do all that 
we can to deny Iran the resources to build ballistic missiles 
that threaten U.S. servicemembers and our allies in Israel and 
Europe. Iran's direct attack on Israel on April 13 makes a 
clear case for why Iran's ballistic missile program must be 
denied. Given this:
    What efforts did the Treasury Department take, under your 
watch, to ensure that the U.N. ballistic missile sanctions were 
kept in place and did not expire?

A.13. In the lead up to the October 18, 2023, expiration the 
UN's restrictions on Iran's missile-related activities under 
U.N. Security Council Resolution 2231 (UNSCR 2231), Treasury 
worked with European counterparts to enable its action to 
retain the nuclear, conventional arms, and missile-related 
restrictions on Iran that were set to expire under its 
nonproliferation sanctions regime. Treasury, along with the 
State Department, met with key European counterparts involved 
in developing sanctions to (1) discuss the U.S. Government's 
position that these sanctions should not be lifted given Iran's 
ongoing activity related to its nuclear and ballistic missile 
programs; and (2) determine ways in which Treasury could 
support the EU's efforts to maintain sanctions on missile-
related entities and individuals.
    As a result of the ongoing discussions with EU 
counterparts, Treasury gathered information to support 
designations under the EU's nonproliferation sanctions of any 
entities or individuals on which restrictions would lift 
pursuant to UNSCR 2231 on October 18, 2023. Treasury passed to 
key EU partners information on 25 entities and 17 individuals 
on which restrictions would lift pursuant to UNSCR 2231 in 
support of the EU's planned designations under domestic 
authorities. On October 18, 2023, the Council of the European 
Union acted to maintain the restrictive measures under the EU 
nonproliferation sanctions regime on Iran by adopting legal 
acts to maintain the designations that had initially been 
imposed by the United Nations for individuals and entities 
involved in nuclear or ballistic missiles activities or 
affiliated to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC). The 
Council of the European Union also agreed to maintain sectoral 
and individual measures, existing under the EU's sanctions 
regime, notably those related to Iran nuclear proliferation, as 
well as arms and missile embargoes.
    In coordinated actions, the United Kingdom transferred 78 
designations from U.N. sanctions to the U.K.'s autonomous 
sanctions under the Iran Nuclear sanctions regime, and Treasury 
sanctioned 11 individuals, eight entities, and one vessel based 
in Iran, Hong Kong, the People's Republic of China (PRC), and 
Venezuela for enabling Iran's destabilizing ballistic missile 
and unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) programs.

Q.14. How many meetings did you have with your European 
counterparts on the expiration of these U.N. sanctions?

A.14. Treasury, along with the State Department, was frequently 
in contact with EU counterparts in the lead up to October 18, 
2023, regarding the expiration of these U.N. sanctions.

Q.15. How many times did you discuss the U.N. ballistic missile 
sanctions sunsetting with U.K. or French counterparts?

A.15. Treasury met with French counterparts frequently as part 
of its engagements with EU counterparts in the lead up to 
October 18, 2023, regarding the expiration of these U.N. 
sanctions. Treasury was in contact with the U.K. in the lead-up 
to October 18, 2023, regarding the expiration of these U.N. 
sanctions and aware of its intention to maintain sanctions on 
relevant individuals and entities.

Q.16. How many interagency meetings or calls did you have with 
other Executive Branch agencies on the expiration of these 
sanctions?

A.16. Treasury was frequently in contact with interagency 
partners, primarily the State Department and National Security 
Council staff, in the lead up to October 18, 2023, regarding 
the expiration of these U.N. sanctions.

Q.17. How many interagency meetings or calls did the Treasury 
Department participate in with other Executive Branch agencies 
on the expiration of these sanctions?

A.17. Treasury was frequently in contact with interagency 
partners, primarily the State Department and National Security 
Council, in the lead up to October 18, 2023, regarding the 
expiration of these U.N. sanctions.

Q.18. Will you commit to working to reinstate the U.N. missile 
sanctions on Iran?

A.18. Treasury maintains sanctions on all possible individuals 
and entities that were subject to UNSCR 2231 under its existing 
sanctions programs. Treasury defers to the State Department and 
USUN on working to re-establish U.N. missile sanctions on Iran.

Q.19. Do you support snapping back the U.N. ballistic missile 
sanctions on Iran?

A.19. Treasury defers to the State Department and USUN on 
snapping back relevant U.N. sanctions on Iran.

Q.20. I am extremely alarmed at your Administration's decision 
to provide sanctions relief to Venezuelan Dictator Nicolas 
Maduro. Maduro's brutal and murderous regime is the exact 
opposite of everything that America stands for. Maduro and his 
cronies steal from the citizens of Venezuela and threaten U.S. 
national security due to its cooperation with Iran, Russia, 
China, and Cuba. Additionally, his actions have further 
perpetuated the migration crisis that we are experiencing on 
our Southern Border. It is unclear to me why the Biden 
administration engaged in such a rushed deal with a dictator 
who could not be trusted. Further, I am concerned that the 
sanctions relief for Venezuela could then be used by Maduro to 
repay debts to China, Russia, and Iran, and that the relief did 
not sufficiently address the wrongfully detained Americans in 
Venezuela. In light of this:
    Given Maduro's nonadherence to the terms of the provided 
sanctions relief, why have you not snapped back sanctions and 
revoked the general licenses associated with this sanctions 
relief?

A.20. The U.S. Government has not renewed General License (GL) 
44, which authorized certain activity in the Venezuelan oil and 
gas sector. On April 17, 2024, OFAC issued GL 44A, which 
authorizes a limited wind-down period for those activities that 
were authorized under GL 44.

Q.21. Moving forward, will you seek to expand sanctions 
pressure on the Maduro regime?

A.21. OFAC does not preview sanctions nor comment on future 
OFAC actions.

Q.22. What steps are you taking to ensure that our sanctions 
relief does not go to pay Venezuelan debts to Iran, Russia, and 
China?

A.22. U.S. persons were not authorized to engage with Russian 
entities pursuant to GL 44 and these restrictions remained in 
place during the wind down period authorized under GL 44A. In 
addition, GL 41, ``Authorizing Certain Transactions Related to 
Chevron Corporation's Joint Ventures in Venezuela'', does not 
authorize U.S. persons to engage in any transaction involving 
an entity located in Venezuela that is owned or controlled by 
an entity located in the Russian Federation. Regarding Iran--a 
general license under the Venezuela program would not authorize 
U.S. persons to engage in transactions prohibited by any of 
OFAC's other sanctions programs, including those related to 
Iran.

Q.23. Can you assure to me that Iran, Russia, and China will 
not be repayed with Venezuelan revenues stemming from the 
General Licenses that your department provided?

A.23. GL 44 did not authorize U.S. persons to engage with 
Russian entities nor did it authorize any transactions 
prohibited by OFAC's Iran sanctions authorities, and these 
restrictions remained in place during the limited wind down 
period authorized under GL 44A. Similarly, GL 41 does not 
authorize U.S. persons to engage with Russian entities or 
transactions prohibited by OFAC's Iran authorities. Regarding 
Iran-a general license issued under the Venezuela program would 
not authorize U.S. persons to engage in transactions prohibited 
by any of OFAC's other sanctions programs, including those that 
prohibit transactions related to Iran.

Q.24. What are you doing to combat the growing cooperation 
between Venezuela, Iran, Russia, and China?

A.24. Treasury will continue to use its range of tools and 
authorities to deter and disrupt threats to the U.S. financial 
system and will take appropriate action as necessary to address 
threats from malign actors.

Q.25. Recent reports allege that the African National Congress 
(ANC), South Africa's ruling party since 1994, has accepted 
party donations from entities linked to Russia and Iran. I am 
concerned that Moscow and Tehran are seeking to buy influence 
in South Africa. I'm specifically concerned about donations 
from the Chancellor House Trust, a Kremlin-linked, institution, 
and United Manganese of Kalahari Ltd, which is linked to the 
sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg.
    Were any of these allegations discussed in your recent 
visit to Pretoria? If so, with whom were these discussions had, 
and what was the response?

A.25. No, these allegations were not discussed during my trip 
to South Africa.

Q.26. Is the Department investigating donations of Chancellor 
House Trust and United Manganese of Kalahari Ltd to the ANC?

A.26. Thank you for raising these concerns. However, Treasury 
is unable to comment on any potential investigations at this 
time.

Q.27. Can you shed light on any reforms being made by the South 
African Government to remediate issues identified by the 
Financial Action Task Force?

A.27. Since February 2023, South Africa has taken steps towards 
enhancing its anti-money laundering/countering the financing of 
terrorism (AML/CFT) regime including by addressing technical 
deficiencies in its targeted financial sanctions regime related 
to terrorist financing and proliferation financing, increasing 
the use of financial intelligence to support money laundering 
and terrorist financing investigations, bolstering resources of 
AML/CFT supervisors, improving its criminalization of terrorist 
financing, and developing national AML/CFT policies to address 
higher risks. Through active participation in the Financial 
Action Task Force, the United States continues to work with 
South Africa to encourage and support AML/CFT reforms.

Q.28. China has a leading role in facilitating fentanyl 
trafficking, both from a money laundering perspective and from 
their sales of precursor chemicals. In January, U.S. and 
Chinese officials announced a counter-narcotics working group. 
The announcement was an attempt to restart a working 
relationship with China to thwart the flow of fentanyl into 
U.S. towns and communities.
    Has China shared any information with the United States 
about the financial networks supporting the money laundering 
activities tied to fentanyl?

A.28. Treasury participated in the inaugural meeting of the 
U.S.-PRC Counter Narcotics Working Group (CNWG) in Beijing in 
January 2024 to engage the PRC directly on the misuse of 
precursor chemicals and equipment to manufacture illicit drugs. 
At the CNWG, Treasury pressed our PRC counterparts to 
investigate a group of PRC entities and individuals recently 
designated by Treasury for illicit fentanyl precursor 
production and sale, highlighting their use of virtual currency 
which may also contravene the PRC's own domestic laws. The 
People's Bank of China (PBOC) has shared back limited 
information and told us that Chinese authorities are evaluating 
the information and will report back to us on their findings, 
and Secretary Yellen reiterated this request while in China 
last month.
    In addition to the CNWG, Secretary Yellen established a new 
joint Treasury-People's Bank of China (PBOC) Cooperation and 
Exchange on Anti-Money Laundering (AML) on her trip in April 
2024 to enable us to better share best practices and 
information to address illicit financial activity in our 
respective financial systems.

Q.29. Are there any specific results you can point to that have 
come from the discussions of the Counter-narcotics Working 
Group with China?

A.29. The PRC has reported taking action on certain chemical 
companies. We continue to press the People's Bank of China 
(PBOC) to take action on the group of PRC entities and 
individuals recently designated by Treasury for illicit 
fentanyl precursor production and sale. While we continue to 
engage the PRC, we will not hesitate to take the necessary 
actions to counter the export of precursor chemicals from 
China.

Q.30. Your department's 2024 Money Laundering Risk Assessment 
identified the role of Chinese Money Laundering Organizations 
as the preferred third-party professional money laundering 
service provider to drug traffickers. What is the Treasury 
Department doing to combat the growing threat to the U.S. posed 
by Chinese Money Laundering Organizations?

A.30. Treasury is focusing on several key lines of effort to 
identify, combat, and disrupt Chinese Money Laundering 
Organization (CMLO) activity taking place through the U.S. 
financial system through its analysis of Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) 
data. The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), in 
coordination with other interagency partners, provides direct 
support to U.S. law enforcement agencies investigating CMLOs 
and their affiliates, and strategic reporting to highlight CMLO 
tactics, techniques, and procedures, as well as potential 
points for law enforcement interdiction. FinCEN currently has 
analysts assigned to the Drug Enforcement Administration-
Special Operations Division (SOD) to support these 
investigations. FinCEN also works with the Federal Bureau of 
Investigation-led Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement (J-
CODE) team, which, among other investigative activities, 
targets illegal opioid distribution on the Darknet.
    Utilizing multiple sources of information, FinCEN is also 
working to identify the illicit financial networks and related 
financial activity directly linked to Mexican cartel money 
laundering. This illicit financial activity includes money 
laundering conducted through networks of money brokers, as well 
as the outsourcing of money laundering activity to professional 
or third-party money laundering organizations, such as CMLOs.
    Treasury also leverages its unique expertise and 
capabilities to interdict and disrupt the illicit financial 
networks upon which these drug trafficking networks rely. 
Treasury does this by targeting the financial supply chain 
facilitating the trafficking of illicit fentanyl, other deadly 
drugs, and their precursors with sanctions authorities through 
Treasury's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC). These 
actions cut off illicit actors from the U.S. financial system 
and shed light on their activity.

Q.31. Why has FinCEN not updated its fentanyl guidance since 
2019?

A.31. On June 20th, FinCEN issued an advisory to alert U.S. 
financial institutions to new trends in the illicit fentanyl 
supple chain and urge vigilance in identifying and reporting 
suspicious activity associated with Mexico-based transnational 
criminal organizations and their illicit procurement of 
fentanyl precursor chemicals and manufacturing equipment from 
based suppliers based in the People's Republic of China (PRC).
    FinCEN also engages with the private sector on fentanyl 
trafficking and related money laundering activities through its 
FinCEN Exchange programs. FinCEN has launched a series of 
fentanyl-focused regional FinCEN Exchanges called ``Promoting 
Regional Outreach to Educate Communities on the Threat of 
Fentanyl'' or PROTECT. This series of FinCEN Exchanges have 
thus far been held in Boston, Massachusetts and Tucson, Arizona 
and will continue to be held in U.S. cities around the country 
that are among the most impacted by the opioid epidemic and 
opioid-related financial flows. FinCEN is undertaking these 
events in coordination with the Internal Revenue Service--
Criminal Investigation and other U.S. law enforcement agencies 
as part of the Counter-Fentanyl Strike Force. Even before the 
PROTECT series of FinCEN Exchanges, FinCEN brought together 
Federal and local law enforcement and financial institutions to 
discuss fentanyl-related financial flows in regionally focused 
FinCEN Exchanges hosted in San Antonio, Texas; Los Angeles, 
California; Phoenix, Arizona; and Cincinnati, Ohio.

Q.32. FinCEN is now in the process of the rollout of the 
beneficial ownership registry and I am closely following the 
rollout of the registry. This rollout must balance national 
security with compliance and burden realities for our small 
businesses, which are the lifeblood of our county. That is why 
I introduced the Protect Small Businesses and Prevent Illicit 
Financial Activity Act to extend the timeline for small 
businesses to comply with the beneficial ownership 
requirements.
    How many businesses are currently registered with the 
FinCEN beneficial ownership database?

A.32. FinCEN had received more than 2.4 million filings as of 
June 20, 2024.

Q.33. How many businesses are required to file with the FinCEN 
beneficial ownership database?

A.33. In the regulatory impact analysis for the beneficial 
ownership information reporting final rule, FinCEN estimated 
that approximately 32.6 million reporting companies will be 
required to report in the first year and 5 million new 
reporting companies will be required to report in each of the 
subsequent nine years. To estimate the number of reporting 
companies, FinCEN first estimated the total number of entities 
that could be reporting companies and then subtracted the 
number of entities FinCEN estimates will be exempt from the 
reporting company definition.
    As noted in that analysis, FinCEN does not have definitive 
counts of reporting companies. Although FinCEN has identified 
information that is relevant to the estimate, that information 
cannot be used in the analysis to estimate the number of 
reporting companies without caveats.
    For instance, only certain types of domestic entities are 
reporting companies (i.e., a corporation, limited liability 
company, or other entity that is created by the filing of a 
document with a Secretary of State or any similar office under 
the law of a State or Indian Tribe, with certain exemptions). 
To determine the number of domestic reporting companies in the 
final rule's analysis, FinCEN first estimated the total number 
of domestic entities, regardless of type, that would be in 
existence at the rule's effective date and then created yearly 
thereafter. FinCEN, however, was not able to limit its estimate 
of domestic entities to specific entity types that fall under 
the rule's requirements. FinCEN could not do so because not all 
entity types are specified in the underlying data and State-by-
State filing practices vary. Thus, while FinCEN's methodology 
simplified the analysis, it may have overestimated the number 
of affected entities and total burden and costs.

Q.34. What is your end-of-year projection for the number of 
small businesses to be registered with FinCEN?

A.34. As noted above, FinCEN estimates that 32.6 million 
existing companies will be required to report in the first 
year.

Q.35. What will happen when criminal penalties go live and 
there are a large number of small businesses which are 
noncompliant?

A.35. The ultimate goal of the Corporate Transparency Act (CTA) 
is to protect U.S. economic and national security, and not 
burden America's small businesses with excessive fines, 
penalties, or burdens. Furthermore, the statute penalizes only 
willful noncompliance.
    FinCEN continues to prioritize outreach efforts to small 
businesses to spread awareness about the CTA's requirements and 
encourage compliance. [We have created a range of tools to help 
promote compliance--including Frequently Asked Questions, a 
Small Entity Compliance Guide (available in multiple 
languages), and a Beneficial Ownership Contact Center--that can 
be found on our website at www.fincen.gov/boi.]

Q.36. How will FinCEN handle enforcement in this scenario? Are 
we setting ourselves up for a case of selective enforcement?

A.36. The civil and criminal penalties in the Corporate 
Transparency Act (CTA) apply to willful violations, which the 
CTA defines as a voluntary, intentional violation of a known 
legal duty. Should a person willfully fail to report complete 
or updated beneficial ownership information to FinCEN in 
accordance with the regulations, FinCEN will consider the 
appropriate enforcement response in light of relevant facts and 
circumstances.

Q.37. What steps are you taking and what commitments can you 
make that the beneficial ownership registry won't be used to 
target politically unsavory businesses?

A.37. FinCEN is working closely with authorized recipients of 
beneficial ownership information to ensure that they understand 
their roles and responsibilities with respect to access and use 
of that information. This includes ensuring that authorized 
users are aware of the limitations on the use the reported 
information, as well as the protocols for handling beneficial 
ownership information in a way that protects its 
confidentiality.

Q.38. I am extremely concerned by the growing influence of 
China on our educational institutions--from our elementary 
schools to our college campuses. Education is a cornerstone of 
our country and the path to innovation, the lifeblood of our 
economy. It's no secret that China has long targeted our 
educational institutions for their research and innovations. 
Which is why I passed a bill in last year's NDAA that required 
your department to review Chinese gifts and grants to U.S. 
institutions of higher learning. I look forward to the findings 
from the report which are due by June 19th of this year.
    Mr. Deputy Secretary, as part of my reporting requirements, 
has Treasury considered expanding the use of the non-SDN 
Chinese Military Industrial Complex list to limit CCP influence 
over our education system?

A.38. Treasury is using all the tools available to it to 
counter PRC malign activities. We have multiple sanctions 
authorities, in addition to E.O. 13959 pursuant to which we 
have taken action in response to PRC malign behavior and 
influence. We would be interested in hearing about the specific 
PRC activity or behavior of concern in the education sector and 
ascertaining whether a sanctions response is the appropriate 
tool.

Q.39. Tutor.com, one of the largest tutoring companies that 
services K-12, libraries, and the U.S. military, was recently 
purchased by a Chinese private equity firm. It was my 
understanding that this went through CFIUS review, and a 
binding legal commitment with the U.S. Government was reached. 
As you well know, China's national security law means that the 
acquiring Chinese firm could be compelled to share information 
with the Chinese Government. Therefore, it is a very real 
possibility that information on American children, our most 
precious resource, would be shared directly with the Chinese 
Communist Party.
    Did the Treasury Department review this case?
    If so, what mitigation procedures were put in place?
    What assurances can you provide to Congress that the CCP 
will not be able to access data or influence content on a 
platform that serves the U.S. educational system and our 
military?
    What are you doing to combat CCP-influence in our education 
system?

A.39. The Department of the Treasury is fully committed to 
keeping Congress informed about the activities of CFIUS. CFIUS 
is subject to strict statutory confidentiality provisions and, 
consistent with law and practice, does not comment publicly on 
whether a particular transaction has been reviewed or is 
undergoing review. After consideration of a transaction is 
complete and consistent with its authorizing statute, CFIUS 
provides Members of Congress specified in its authorizing 
statute with a summary of the transaction, and upon request, 
classified briefings. As required by law, CFIUS also provides 
Members of Congress specified in its authorizing statute with a 
classified annual report detailing information about 
transactions and related information.

Q.40. Your testimony focused on how effective Treasury has been 
in combating illicit finance with digital assets through the 
use of its existing tools.
    What specific actions have you not been able to take with 
the current tools that Treasury has at its disposal?

A.40. Our 2024 National Risk Assessments identified that a 
variety of threat actors, including ransomware actors, drug 
traffickers, North Korean cyber actors, and terrorists, often 
use foreign-based virtual asset service providers, or VASPs, 
operating in jurisdictions without effective AML/CFT 
obligations to launder or move their funds. Treasury is using 
our authorities when available to address these risks. In 
November, FinCEN and OFAC, along with the Department of Justice 
and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, took 
unprecedented enforcement actions with a total settlement 
amount over $4 billion against Binance. These actions were the 
largest in the history of Treasury and for FinCEN and OFAC.
    However, to fully address illicit finance risk associated 
with digital assets, Treasury should be equipped with 
additional tools and resources. Treasury has been working with 
Congress on a number of proposals, including several that would 
enhance Treasury's ability to control risk associated with 
foreign actors, including VASPs. Several of the proposals would 
extend our sanctions authorities to address risks presented by 
foreign VASPs, including some stablecoin issuers. For example, 
one proposal is designed to ensure that OFAC sanctions apply to 
issuers of U.S. dollar-backed stablecoins. This would be a 
critical tool as evidenced by recent press articles indicating 
that such stablecoins have been used to make payments involving 
OFAC-designated persons. Treasury also proposed that 
legislation clarify that Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) jurisdiction 
extends to entities abroad with U.S. touchpoints.
    Additionally, Treasury is seeking creation of a new 
financial institution type in the BSA for digital asset 
entities, which could clarify coverage of entities in the 
digital asset ecosystem. This could be particularly helpful for 
instances in which digital asset entities have claimed that 
they do not meet the definition of financial institutions for 
the BSA because they may lack a centralized operator or 
organization, or may not take custody of funds. Our proposal 
ensures that the BSA comprehensively covers digital asset 
actors and that the relevant entities in the digital asset 
ecosystem have the necessary obligations to mitigate illicit 
finance risks under the BSA.

Q.41. Deputy Secretary Adeyemo, recent reporting has indicated 
that Russian oligarchs are using Third Party Litigation 
Financing (TPLF) through the U.S. court system as a method of 
sidestepping U.S. sanctions, detailing how Russian billionaires 
with ties to President Vladimir Putin are funneling money into 
active litigation in exchange for a portion of any settlement 
or award from a lawsuit.
    Has Treasury analyzed how foreign entities could use TPLF 
as a way to get around U.S. sanctions?

A.41. Treasury continues to analyze and take steps to counter 
sanctions evasion in many forms. Financial institutions and 
other market participants should exercise risk-based compliance 
and due diligence in scrutinizing transactions linked to TPLF 
as they do for other types of financial transactions.

Q.42. If so, has Treasury taken any steps to prevent these 
attempts to sidestep U.S. sanctions?

A.42. Treasury engages in robust outreach to financial 
institutions and other stakeholders to promote sanctions 
compliance in all types of financial transactions and 
structures, including TPLF, and to investigate and enforce 
against potential violations.

Q.43. Will Treasury take steps to work with Congress in order 
to increase transparency regarding foreign TPLF within the U.S. 
court system?

A.43. Treasury will come back to Congress quickly if we 
conclude that additional authorities are necessary to address 
this issue.

Q.44. What additional threats to U.S. national security are 
posed by foreign adversaries engaged in TPLF?

A.44. Undisclosed financing by foreign adversaries can pose a 
national security threat. Additional transparency can be very 
important to mitigating this risk. A better understanding of 
when activities are financed by foreign adversaries generally 
will help Treasury better use our tools and ensure that the 
American people are aware of who is financing what.

Q.45. I am closely monitoring the effectiveness of our 
sanctions on Russia and their ability to deny Russia resources 
for its war in Ukraine.
    In your opinion, has the Russian oil price cap been 
effective?

A.45. Under the price cap, the United States, along with 
members of the G7 and Australia and New Zealand, have worked 
together to restrict Russia's oil revenues, while supporting 
global energy market stability. Russia has responded by selling 
its oil at a significant discount. The discount on Russia's 
Urals grade, Russia's main crude grade, averaged over $23 per 
barrel in 2023--in oil markets where discounts of a dollar or 
two normally cause arbitrageurs to swoop in. Kremlin oil tax 
revenue was approximately 30 percent lower in 2023 as compared 
to 2022. Over the past year, Russia has been forced to invest 
resources to try and evade our restrictions and, in response, 
we have increasingly tightened enforcement of the price cap. 
Our data shows that Coalition sanctions enforcement is forcing 
Russia to sell oil at a steeper discount--a reassuring 
endorsement of our multilateral approach.

Q.46. What steps are you taking to curb long-term Western 
reliance on Russia's State-owned nuclear energy provider, 
Rosatom?

A.46. The United States is working together with partners to 
reduce our coalition's remaining dependence on Russian nuclear 
fuel and other civil nuclear services. We are working to create 
shared supply chains for nuclear fuel and we are ramping up 
production of enriched uranium from non-Russian sources. Our 
efforts to reduce Russian revenues are enhanced by the cohesion 
of our coalition, and so we remain mindful of the need to work 
closely with our partners to mitigate the potential collateral 
effects of our actions.

Q.47. The Biden administration's February 1, 2024, Executive 
order and sanctions on Israeli settler violence, of which three 
of the four sanctioned individuals were already undergoing 
prosecution by Israel, a close U.S. ally. This E.O. and the use 
of the Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons list, 
which is overseen by your department, occurred on the same day 
that President Biden made a political visit to Michigan. While 
violence should never be condoned, I am concerned that this 
exercise could have political issues.
    How do sanctions on individuals in allied Nations who are 
already facing criminal prosecution strengthen our national 
security?

A.47. These sanctions, like all sanctions, strengthen our 
national security by cutting off the SDNs' ability to access 
and profit from the U.S. financial system. Violent West Bank 
extremist settlers, including those sanctioned, rely on 
financial support from across the world to pursue their illegal 
and destabilizing activities. These sanctions also demonstrate 
to the Government of Israel (GoI) how concerning the worsening 
violence in the West Bank is and that greater steps need to be 
taken to protect the safety and security of both Israelis and 
Palestinians. Absent urgent GoI action, Treasury will continue 
to assure that the U.S. financial system is not involved in 
facilitating the activities of destabilizing extremists.

Q.48. In your meetings in advance of the Executive order, was 
the President's visit to Michigan mentioned?

A.48. No. The President's travel to Michigan was not mentioned 
to me in connection with the release of the Executive order.

Q.49. Could you provide me an update on the status of OFAC's 
creation of a sanction's violation whistle-blowing program?
    What steps are you taking to ensure that the program 
protects national security and is not abused by bad actors and 
criminal organizations?

A.49. The AML Act of 2020 (AML Act) enabled the creation of the 
Office of the Whistleblower (OWB) within FinCEN and provided 
for the payment of awards for certain violations of the Bank 
Secrecy Act and certain sanctions authorities. In December 
2022, Congress enacted the AML Whistleblower Improvement Act 
(the Act), which expanded the scope of violations to include 
most U.S. economic sanctions. Since February 2023, OFAC has 
been actively reviewing and investigating whistleblower tips 
received and processed by FinCEN's OWB. Pursuant to the 
statute, OFAC will not create its own whistle-blower program, 
but will use FinCEN's.
    To help ensure that the program protects national security 
and is not abused by bad actors and criminal organizations, 
OFAC coordinates closely with FinCEN's OWB.
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               RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF
          SENATOR CORTEZ MASTO FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Last year, the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City 
published research \1\ that alleged many Bitcoin ATM operators 
``do little or nothing to comply with existing regulations.'' 
Bitcoin ATMs are money services businesses and therefor are 
subject to State and Federal rules related to the Bank Secrecy 
Act and anti-money laundering (AML) rules.
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     \1\ Noll, Franklin, ``The Controversial Business of Cash-to-Crypto 
Bitcoin ATMs'', Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, August 30, 2023. 
https://www.kansascityfed.org/research/payments-system-research-
briefings/the-controversial-business-of-cash-to-crypto-bitcoin-atms/
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    Do Federal and State regulators both have authority to 
regulate and oversee Bitcoin ATM and other cryptocurrency ATM 
operators?
    Does the Department of the Treasury coordinate with State 
regulators to ensure Bitcoin ATM and other cryptocurrency ATM 
operators are complying with BSA and AML regulations?
    Are all cryptocurrency ATMs considered money services 
businesses? Is there any regulatory arbitrage that operators 
can take advantage of to skirt Federal and State regulation?
    Is Treasury, or other Federal or State regulators, aware of 
the level of money laundering and scams facilitated through 
cryptocurrency ATMs?

A.1. As articulated in FinCEN's 2019 guidance on the treatment 
of business models involving convertible virtual currencies 
under the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA), FinCEN views virtual asset 
kiosk owners and operators, often called cryptocurrency ATMs, 
to be money services businesses (MSBs) under the BSA. \2\ As 
such, virtual asset kiosk owners and operators must register 
with FinCEN, establish and implement an effective AML program 
and comply with applicable recordkeeping and reporting 
requirements, including suspicious activity report (SAR) filing 
obligations.
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     \2\ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, ``Application of 
FinCEN's Regulations to Certain Business Models Involving Convertible 
Virtual Currencies (FIN-2019-G001)'', (May 9, 2019) at p. 17.
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    Like other MSBs, virtual asset kiosk owners and operators 
are subject to routine compliance examinations to determine 
their compliance with anti-money laundering/countering the 
financing of terrorism (AML/CFT) requirements by FinCEN's 
delegated examiners for MSBs, the IRS Small Business/Self-
Employed Division. The IRS refers matters to FinCEN when its 
examinations of MSBs find significant violations of the BSA. 
FinCEN may then take enforcement action against such MSBs.
    Like other financial institutions, virtual asset kiosk 
owners and operators may be exploited to facilitate illicit 
finance when appropriate controls are not in place. Treasury is 
aware of risks associated with such kiosks and has undertaken 
efforts to highlights risks to industry, law enforcement, and 
other regulators. As noted in Treasury's 2024 National Money 
Laundering Risk Assessment, for example, some perpetrators of 
scams or fraud may direct victims to use virtual asset kiosks 
to purchase virtual assets with fiat currency and send virtual 
assets to the perpetrator. In April 2024, FinCEN's Financial 
Trend Analysis on Elder Financial Exploitation noted that kiosk 
operators filed over 4,000 SARs in a 1-year period related to 
suspected elder financial exploitation. \3\ In February of this 
year, FinCEN's Financial Trend Analysis on Use of Convertible 
Virtual Currency for Suspected Online Child Sexual Exploitation 
and Human Trafficking, identified 17 BSA reports involving 
virtual asset kiosks and suspected human trafficking activity. 
\4\
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     \3\ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, ``Threat Pattern & Trend 
Information, June 2022 to June 2023'', (Apr. 2024).
     \4\ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network, ``Financial Trend 
Analysis: Use of Convertible Virtual Currency for Suspected Online 
Child Sexual Exploitation and Human Trafficking: Threat Pattern & Trend 
Information, January 2020 to December 2021'', (Feb. 2024).
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    Treasury recognizes that MSBs that fail to meet their 
obligations under the BSA present risks and is looking closely 
at the illicit finance risks that virtual asset kiosks present.
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       RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR WARNOCK
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. It has widely been reported that the payment stablecoin 
tether, or USDT, is the most used stablecoin for criminal 
activity in cryptocurrency. \1\ Additionally, in your written 
testimony, you specifically cite, ``[W]e've seen Russia 
increasingly turning to alternative payment mechanisms--
including the stablecoin tether--to try to circumvent our 
sanctions and continue to finance its war machine. \2\ 
Currently, Congress is considering legislation to regulate 
payment stablecoins, \3\ with the House of Representatives 
having marked up legislation that would create a regulatory 
framework for payment stablecoins. \4\
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     \1\ See Ben Foldy, ``From Hamas to North Korean Nukes, 
Cryptocurrency Tether Keeps Showing Up'', Wall Street Journal (October 
27, 2023), https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/most-popular-
cryptocurrency-keeps-showing-up-in-illicit-finance-71d32e5e; Suvashree 
Ghosh, ``Tether Is the Most Used Stablecoin in Illicit Crypto Flows, 
TRM Says'', Bloomberg (March 27, 2024), https://www.bloomberg.com/news/
articles/2024-03-27/tether-usdt-is-most-used-stablecoin-in-illicit-
crypto-flows-trm-says.
     \2\ An Update from the Treasury Department: ``Countering Illicit 
Finance, Terrorism and Sanctions Evasion Before the U.S. Senate 
Committee on Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs'', 118th Cong. 
(April 9, 2024) (statement of Mr. Wally Adeyemo, United States Deputy 
Secretary of the Treasury), https://www.banking.senate.gov/imo/media/
doc/adeyemo-testimony-4-9-243.pdf.
     \3\ Clarity for Payment Stablecoins Act of 2023, H.R. 4766, 118th 
Cong. (2023).
     \4\ Markup of H.R. 4766, H.R. 4841, H.R. 4790, H.R. 4767, H.R. 
4823, H.R. 4655, H.J. Res. 66, 118th Cong. (July 27, 2023), https://
financialservices.house.gov/calendar/eventsingle.aspx?EventID=408925.
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    Will this legislation be sufficient in halting the use of 
tether to finance illicit activities by Russia, Hamas, Iran, 
North Korea, China, and other American adversaries?
    If not, what additional tools does the Administration 
require from Congress to crack down on tether being used to 
evade sanctions and fund adversaries through illicit means?

A.1. Treasury is looking closely at how illicit actors are 
misusing virtual assets and taking steps to mitigate these 
risks, and we assess that the legislation to create an improved 
regulatory framework for payment stablecoins would be a 
positive step forward in addressing these risks. While we note 
that stablecoin administrators, which are entities engaged as a 
business in issuing or putting a virtual currency into 
circulation, currently have AML/CFT obligations as money 
services businesses under the Bank Secrecy Act, Treasury 
supports the imposition of bank-like prudential and AML/CFT 
obligations under the BSA on stablecoin issuers, with the 
Federal Reserve (or another banking agency) being responsible 
for supervision and examination. These changes would strengthen 
the U.S. Government's ability to mitigate illicit finance risks 
within the stablecoin ecosystem.
    In addition to this legislation, Treasury has proposed 
other commonsense reforms specific to our AML/CFT and sanctions 
frameworks that update our tools and authorities to match the 
evolving challenges in the virtual asset ecosystem. These 
proposals include a proposal related to ensuring that OFAC 
regulations apply to issuers of U.S. dollar-backed stablecoins, 
and a proposal clarifying that the BSA applies 
extraterritorially.
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               RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF
           SENATOR FETTERMAN FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Hezbollah financier Nazem Ahmad was indicted by the 
Federal Government for using works of art to evade sanctions. 
Russian Oligarch Roman Abramovich used his billion-dollar art 
collection to evade sanctions. The art market is largest asset 
class not yet covered by compliance with the Bank Secrecy Act. 
Do you agree that players in the art market should have to 
abide by the same level of counter terror-financing and anti-
money laundering compliance as banks, jewelers, and pawn shops?

A.1. As discussed in the 2022 Treasury study on illicit finance 
in the art market, while there is little risk of terrorist 
financing in the art market, the art market has several 
characteristics that make it susceptible to money laundering. 
However, there are also several mitigating factors unique to 
the art market that alleviate some of this money laundering 
risk. For example, art market participants such as auction 
houses and galleries also have other business incentives to 
identify and evaluate the ultimate seller and purchaser of 
works, such as reputation concerns and credit risk.
    The use of shell companies is pervasive in the art market, 
often for legitimate reasons such as privacy and protection of 
high-value assets. Illicit actors (including in both 
highlighted cases) abuse this standard practice to facilitate 
their crimes. Implementation of the Corporate Transparency Act, 
which requires certain companies doing business in the United 
States to report their beneficial ownership information to 
FinCEN, will help to alleviate this transparency problem.
    Further, the scale and structure of the art market make it 
comparatively less risky than banking or the precious metals, 
stones, and jewels (PMSJ) sectors. The art market is an 
estimated $27 billion in the United States, while the jewelry 
market alone is estimated to be more than twice that size, the 
U.S. banking sector holds over $20 trillion, and investment 
advisers, which are not subject to comprehensive AML/CFT 
requirements, manage over $120 trillion in assets.
    Any regulatory regime focused on the art market would also 
require commensurate supervisory and enforcement resources so 
that the regime could be implemented effectively. At the 
moment, Treasury is focused on work to close outstanding gaps 
in the U.S. AML/CFT regime related to real estate, and 
investment advisers.

Q.2. In 2020 congress overhauled protections for whistleblowers 
calling out money laundering. However, the bill specifically 
excluded bank and credit union employees from anti-retaliation 
protections, under 31 U.S.C. 5323(g)(6). Do you agree that bank 
employees should get robust protections when they blow the 
whistle on money laundering?

A.2. Regardless of which statutory framework applies, eligible 
whistleblowers participating in FinCEN's whistleblower program 
should be afforded robust anti-retaliation protections. The 
anti-retaliation protections that are afforded under 31 U.S.C. 
5323 are administered by the Department of Labor's Occupational 
Safety and Health Administration (OSHA).
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        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR BUTLER
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Emerging Threats to Younger Investors--Deputy Secretary 
Adeyemo, thank you for appearing before this Committee today 
and for your service to our country. You have taken substantial 
efforts at Treasury to crackdown on the illicit financing of 
terrorism, especially the involvement of cryptocurrencies. 
Fraud and crime focused on cryptocurrency is also a growing 
problem as you know. According to the FBI's Internet Crime 
Complaint Center's annual report, crypto related fraud 
complaints have expanded substantially over the last few years, 
with $907 million record in 2021 to $2.57 billion only one year 
later. I am concerned about younger generations who have become 
the largest group of cryptocurrency holders; Pew Research has 
published that 28 percent of U.S. adults between 18 to 29 have 
invested traded, or used a cryptocurrency. Data also showed 
that Gen Z Americans were three times more likely to get caught 
up in an online scam than boomers and the cost of falling 
victim to online scams has risen.
    Deputy Secretary, while reading the 2024 anti-money 
laundering report which discussed pig butchering scams, virtual 
asset investment schemes, among other methods to defraud 
Americans, I am specifically concerned for younger generations 
who comprise the largest cryptocurrency customer base and seem 
to be vulnerable to the risks associated with emerging 
cryptocurrencies and their lack of regulation. Could you 
elaborate on the emerging fraud tactics that target entry-
level, younger investors in the crypto space?

A.1. Treasury shares your concern about virtual asset 
investment schemes (VAIS), which include a variety of 
traditional fraud fact patterns based on misrepresentations 
concerning potential investment opportunities in virtual 
assets. As you note, VAIS often target a younger demographic, 
with victims having a median age of between 30 and 49. While 
many of the methods used by these scammers are similar to those 
used by traditional fraudsters, they often take advantage of 
the publicity around virtual assets to victimize investors.
    With regards to emerging fraud tactics, U.S. law 
enforcement is seeing fraudsters use a wide variety of 
platforms to initiate ``pig butchering'' scams, including 
contacting victims on social media, dating platforms, or text 
messages purportedly sent to the wrong number. Scammers often 
build rapport and gain trust with the victim before luring 
victims into investing virtual assets using fake websites or 
applications. The deception becomes apparent when victims 
attempt to cash out their investments, or when the fraudster 
terminates communication with the victim. Treasury has taken 
steps to mitigate risks associated with these types of schemes, 
including by publishing a FinCEN alert on ``pig butchering'' 
scams to help financial institutions detect, prevent, and 
report potential suspicious activity related to these scams. 
These red flags include behavioral, financial, and technical 
indicators that may be indicative of a pig butchering scam.

Q.2. Crypto ATMs--One growing area of concern is crypto 
automated teller machines (ATMs) that allow users to buy and 
sell cryptocurrency for cash. After discussion with 
California's Department of Financial Protection and Innovation, 
I am concerned about these ATMs, which may charge up to 20 
percent in exchange fees. In addition, the FBI noted an 
increase in illicit actors that direct victims to use these 
ATMs under false pretenses. Furthermore, these ATMs are not 
insured by the FDIC, which prevent protections against theft or 
loss of funds. Nationwide, there are over 31,000 of these ATMs 
with over 10 percent (3,163) in California alone, with one of 
these ATM operators generating over $700 million dollars in 
revenue.
    Deputy Secretary, while the 2024 anti-money laundering 
report briefly mentioned how scammers may direct victims to use 
virtual asset kiosks to purchase virtual assets with cash, I 
believe the scale of revenue warrants greater investigation and 
regulatory oversight. Can you elaborate on the shortfalls in 
implementing AML/CFT (anti-money laundering and combating the 
financing of terrorism) compliance at these crypto ATMs?

A.2. As articulated in FinCEN's 2019 guidance on the treatment 
of business models involving convertible virtual currencies 
under the BSA, FinCEN views virtual asset kiosk owners and 
operators, often called crypto ATMs, to be money services 
businesses (MSBs) for purposes of the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA). 
As such, kiosk owners and operators have AML/CFT obligations, 
including requirements to register with FinCEN, establish and 
implement an effective AML Program, and recordkeeping and 
reporting requirements, including suspicious activity report 
(SAR) filing obligations. Like other MSBs, virtual asset kiosks 
owners and operators are subject to routine compliance 
examinations to determine their compliance with the AML/CFT 
requirements by FinCEN's delegated examiners for MSBs, the IRS 
Small Business/Self-Employed Division. MSBs that are found to 
have significant violations of the Bank Secrecy Act are 
referred to FinCEN for possible enforcement. Treasury 
recognizes that MSBs that fail to meet their obligations under 
the BSA present significant risks and is looking closely at the 
illicit finance risks that virtual asset kiosks present.

Q.3. New Legislative Authority From Congress--I want to discuss 
your efforts to expand Treasury's authority to go after illicit 
actors in the digital asset space and to expand investor 
protections and safeguards. I commend you on your efforts to 
increase transparency of cryptocurrency to prevent future 
exploitation of bad actors. With your efforts to expand 
regulation of self-custody crypto wallets, I am interested in 
hearing how expanding this regulation will prevent exploitation 
of bad actors.
    Deputy Secretary, could you elaborate on how the 
implementation of self-custody crypto wallets would increase 
consumer and investor protections, and if it would improve 
consumer safety for crypto ATMs?

A.3. Treasury is concerned by the increasing disintermediation 
of financial services in the digital assets sector, which 
complicates efforts to identify and prevent abuses, such as 
consumer fraud. We are carefully examining the use of self-
custody wallets, also referred to as unhosted wallets, that may 
not involve a traditional financial services provider subject 
to AML/CFT obligations.
    As part of Treasury's efforts to ensure comprehensive 
coverage of digital asset actors under the BSA, it is 
supporting legislative efforts to provide for a new category as 
a ``financial institution'' under the BSA that would more fully 
cover actors in the digital asset space. This new category 
could include, but is not limited to, virtual asset service 
providers (VASPs), virtual asset wallet providers, and so-
called decentralized finance (DeFi) services. While many 
virtual asset entities are currently considered financial 
institutions under the BSA and its implementing regulations, 
some have claimed that they are not subject to BSA requirements 
at all.
    The creation of a new financial institution would present 
the opportunity to clarify the application of the BSA. It would 
also help ensure that relevant entities in the digital asset 
ecosystem have AML/CFT obligations to mitigate illicit finance 
risks and that FinCEN promulgate appropriate obligations under 
the BSA for particular types of activity based on the risk that 
activity represents.
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       RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR KENNEDY
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Cryptocurrency--What does the U.S. Government do to limit 
the misuse of cash that Stablecoin issuers are not doing?

A.1. In contrast to real currency (including cash), stablecoins 
and other virtual assets are considered a medium of exchange 
that operate like a currency in some environments, but they do 
not have all the attributes of real currency. For instance, 
virtual currency generally does not have legal tender status in 
any jurisdiction. In this respect, virtual currency either has 
an equivalent value of real currency, or acts as a substitute 
for real currency. Additionally, stablecoins and other virtual 
assets are not subject to the physical limitations of paper 
money. Visibility into the movement of the asset also differs 
between cash and stablecoins. There is limited ability to track 
cash transactions outside financial institutions, but 
blockchain technology typically provides some visibility into 
virtual currency transactions, including stablecoin 
transactions.
    Currently, stablecoin administrators operating in the 
United States are considered money services businesses under 
the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) and are required to register with 
FinCEN, establish and implement an effective AML program, and 
comply with applicable recordkeeping and reporting 
requirements, including suspicious activity report (SAR) filing 
obligations. All U.S. persons, wherever located--as well as 
foreign companies engaging in transactions with a U.S. nexus--
are likewise required to comply with Office of Foreign Assets 
Control (OFAC) sanctions. Failure to comply with these 
requirements may result in criminal or civil penalties.
    Under the BSA, financial institutions must report 
suspicious activity conducted by, at, or through the 
institution, whether that activity is cash or a virtual asset. 
Additionally, physical currency transactions also have 
additional reporting requirements when conducted in person. For 
example, a financial institution is required to file a Currency 
Transaction Report for one or more transactions in physical 
currency with a customer that aggregate over $10,000 in a 
business day. Separately, for transactions in physical currency 
over $10,000 (in a single or related transactions) conducted by 
a nonfinancial trade or business, relevant persons are required 
to file an IRS/FinCEN Report of Cash Payments Over $10,000 in a 
Trade or Business (referred to as the ``Form 8300''). These 
reports are not currently required to be filed for transactions 
that are not conducted in physical currency, including 
stablecoins or other virtual assets.

Q.2. What kind of harms occur if illicit activity is conducted 
using a digital asset rather than cash? Is the harm greater or 
lesser?

A.2. Illicit actors use a variety of means to generate and 
launder illicit funds, including through the use of cash or 
virtual assets. In Treasury's National Risk Assessments on 
Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Proliferation 
Financing, we consider the various threats to the U.S. 
financial system and the vulnerabilities that they often 
exploit to generate, launder, or otherwise move funds. Illicit 
actors attempt to identify and exploit vulnerabilities in 
specific financial sectors or products or weaknesses in 
regulation, supervision, or enforcement.
    The National Money Laundering Risk Assessment (NMLRA) 
identified that cash presented vulnerabilities, including bulk 
cash smuggling, cash consolidation cities, funnel accounts, and 
cash-intensive businesses and front companies. The NMLRA also 
identified several vulnerabilities associated with virtual 
assets, including jurisdictional arbitrage, noncompliance by 
virtual assets service providers (VASP) with BSA or sanctions 
obligations, and the use of anonymity-enhancing technologies. 
Overall, the risk assessments also noted that money laundering 
and terrorist financing predominantly occur via traditional 
methods, like cash, that do not involve virtual assets.

Q.3. Considering that the global financial system processes 
trillions of dollars daily, can you provide concrete data that 
clearly delineates the scale of cryptocurrency's use in illicit 
finance compared to traditional financial systems? How do you 
justify the disproportionate focus on cryptocurrencies given 
their relatively minor role in global illicit transactions?

A.3. Treasury's 2024 National Risk Assessments reaffirm 
findings from our 2022 risk assessments that money laundering, 
proliferation financing, and terrorist financing most commonly 
occurs using fiat currency or other traditional assets as 
opposed to virtual assets. While this is important to keep in 
mind, our assessments illustrate how illicit actors, including 
ransomware actors, North Korean cybercriminals, and scammers 
use virtual assets to generate and launder their illicit funds. 
We have also seen the use of virtual assets by other illicit 
actors grow as virtual assets become more widely used-for 
example, drug traffickers are increasingly using virtual assets 
in the procurement of fentanyl precursor chemicals. As such, 
the United States is compelled to consider and take steps to 
address these illicit finance risks associated with virtual 
assets as we do with risks associated with fiat currency and 
traditional money laundering methods.

Q.4. What empirical evidence can Treasury provide to support 
the notion that cryptocurrencies significantly contribute to 
terrorism financing compared to traditional financial systems? 
How do these findings justify the current regulatory approach?

A.4. Through consultations with the interagency and a review of 
law enforcement cases, Treasury identified in the 2024 National 
Terrorist Financing Risk Assessment (NTFRA) that both 
international terrorist and domestic violent extremist groups 
have continued using virtual assets to generate and transfer 
funds. Since the 2022 NTFRA, certain terrorist groups, such as 
ISIS-Khorasan and Hamas, have increased their understanding of 
and are experimenting with different types of virtual assets. 
We identified that terrorist groups using virtual assets mostly 
do so for fundraising online, and the NTFRA includes a case 
example in which DOJ filed a complaint charging four defendants 
with conspiring to provide material support to ISIS.
    The U.S. Government assesses that terrorists still prefer 
traditional financial products and services, although we 
recognize that terrorists, like other illicit actors, are drawn 
to where liquidity meets gaps in our AML/CFT framework. As 
such, we continue to assess illicit finance risks associated 
with virtual assets and take steps to mitigate those risks in 
the same way as we do with other parts of the U.S. financial 
system.

Q.5. Given the evidence that cryptocurrency-related illicit 
activities represent a minimal fraction of overall 
transactions, can you justify Treasury's disproportionate focus 
on digital currencies? Is this focus truly about combatting 
illicit finance, or is there an underlying agenda to expand 
regulatory control over the burgeoning cryptocurrency market?

A.5. As stated above, while we assess that money laundering, 
proliferation financing, and terrorist financing most commonly 
occurs using fiat currency or other traditional assets as 
opposed to virtual assets, we are compelled to consider and 
take steps to address these illicit finance risks associated 
with virtual assets as we do with risks associated with fiat 
currency and traditional methods.

Q.6. Given the blockchain's inherent transparency and the 
advanced capabilities of traceability tools, can you explain 
how Treasury is leveraging this technology to enhance law 
enforcement efforts?

A.6. Importantly, not all blockchains have the same attributes 
and, as such, some provide more transparency into transactions 
than others. With that said, public ledgers can generally 
support investigations by competent authorities in tracing the 
movement of illicit proceeds. While the ledgers do not contain 
names or traditional account identifiers associated with any 
particular address, regulators and law enforcement can in some 
cases take viewable pseudonymous user and transaction 
information and pair it with other pieces of information to 
identify transaction participants. Regulatory agencies and law 
enforcement may use multiple complementary third-party tools to 
identify, trace, and attribute many virtual asset transactions 
on most virtual asset blockchains. Additionally, records from 
the blockchain have been admitted as evidence in court cases, 
and blockchain analysis was determined to be a reliable 
foundation for probable cause for a search warrant application.

Q.7. Sanctions and Third Party Litigation Funding--A recent 
article in Bloomberg Law found that an investment firm founded 
by Russian billionaires with ties to Vladimir Putin has 
financed lawsuits around the world, in some cases working with 
the company's directors, clients, and Russian banks in an 
effort to evade international sanctions. The article goes on to 
highlight that: ``While banks and financial firms are easy 
targets for Western Governments, the opaque world of litigation 
finance is more elusive. With no reporting requirements and few 
regulations, deep-pocketed investors can pour millions of 
dollars into a case without ever appearing on a court docket. 
That's opened a new kind of cross-border cash spigot used to 
skirt international law and the spirit of why sanctions were 
imposed in the first place.''
    Are you familiar with foreign investment in third-party 
litigation financing? What role do you think that the Treasury 
Department should play to protect against sanctions evasions 
and other national security issues?

A.7. While I cannot comment on the specific reporting from 
Bloomberg Law, I am aware of reports that foreign adversaries 
are using third-party litigation financing (TPLF) to evade U.S. 
and other sanctions. Treasury staff have met with stakeholders 
on this issue, and we continue to learn more about the issue. 
Treasury continues to analyze and take steps to counter 
sanctions evasion in any form. Financial institutions and other 
market participants should exercise the same risk-based 
diligence in scrutinizing transactions linked to TPLF as they 
do for other types of financial transactions.

Q.8. Would you agree that Treasury should know when and how 
foreign-sourced money is being invested in U.S. litigation 
against American businesses in exchange for a cut of the 
settlement or awards through third-party litigation finance?

A.8. Increasing transparency is one of the most important steps 
to prevent abuse of the U.S. financial system.

Q.9. Should we limit the ability of foreign Governments to 
negatively impact various U.S. industries by accessing 
sensitive information and tying up critical industries in 
anonymous third-party litigation?

A.9. We agree that it is important for U.S. industries to 
protect sensitive information. Treasury will come back to 
Congress quickly if we conclude that additional authorities are 
necessary.
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        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR CRAMER
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Proposed legislation from the State of New York to 
restructure sovereign debt contracts is estimated to affect 
over $850 billion in outstanding debt from emerging markets 
(Campos). While the bill sponsors seek to address the economic 
impact of holdout creditors on the poorest of these sovereign 
issuers, they ignore the negative impact that the bill's 
retroactive application will have on all sovereign bonds 
governed by N.Y. law. The $850 billion in bonds are held by 
N.Y. investors, either directly or indirectly through mutual 
funds, retirement plans, and other pension vehicles. 
Additionally, some of this $850 billion is also held by other 
State and city retirement systems; therefore, extending the 
potential negative ramifications well beyond New York 
constituents.
    Does the Treasury Department plan to conduct an impact 
analysis to determine the potential effect the bill may have on 
the assets on New York retirement and pension plans, as well as 
the potential impact on pension plans throughout our country?

A.1. Treasury has not commented on the proposed New York 
legislation. The scoring and effects of proposed legislation in 
New York would be handled by the appropriate New York State 
office or agency.

Q.2. The Sovereign Debt Stability Act ``seeks to encourage 
constructive resolution and ensure that access to N.Y. courts 
is not abused by holdout creditor''. However, it is important 
to note that ``collective action clauses have been included in 
[over 90 percent] of the new issuances from 2014 to 2020,'' 
(Republic of Argentina v. NML Capital, Ltd., 2012) and the 
International Monetary Fund (IMF), in referencing Collective 
Action Clauses, has stated that ``these clauses appear to be 
the best protection for sovereigns against so called `holdout' 
litigation'' (International Monetary Fund).
    Why is legislation needed if the IMF has noted existing 
collective action clauses are the best protection?
    Could the Treasury Department provide insights on the 
necessity of legislation given the IMF's assertion that 
existing collective action clauses offer the best protection? 
In light of the IMF's view, is there consideration in limiting 
the applicability of the proposed bill to sovereign bonds that 
do not have an existing collective action clause. \1\
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     \1\ References: Campos, R. (2024, March 11). ``Explainer: New York 
Lawmakers Tackle Sovereign Debt Reworks Again''. Retrieved from 
Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/new-york-lawmakers-
tackle-sovereign-debt-reworks-again-2024-03-11/; International Monetary 
Fund (2020). ``The International Architecture for Resolving Sovereign 
Debt Involving Private-Sector Creditors--Recent Developments, 
Challenges, and Reform Options''. International Monetary Fund. NML 
Capital, Ltd. v. Republic of Argentina. (2012, October 26). Retrieved 
from Casetext: https://casetext.com/case/nml-capital-ltd-v-republic-of-
argentina.

A.2. Treasury has not commented on the proposed New York 
legislation and cannot speak for members of the New York State 
legislature regarding their consideration of any limitations to 
the proposed bill. In general, Treasury has long supported 
voluntary and consensual sovereign debt restructuring processes 
consistent with the principle of comparability of treatment and 
enforceability of contractual rights, and views collective 
actions clauses as an important enhancement to the sovereign 
debt restructuring framework.
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        RESPONSES TO WRITTEN QUESTIONS OF SENATOR DAINES
                    FROM ADEWALE O. ADEYEMO

Q.1. Deputy Secretary, there is common agreement that there are 
roughly $300 billion in frozen Russian Government assets around 
the world. Can you confirm that this number is relatively 
accurate, and what is the Treasury's estimate of how much of 
that is frozen within the United States?

A.1. It is our understanding that the sum of immobilized 
Russian sovereign assets held around the world totals nearly 
$300 billion. We would point you to press reporting indicating 
that approximately $5 billion worth of these immobilized 
Russian sovereign assets are within U.S. jurisdiction.