[Senate Hearing 118-417]
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                                                        S. Hrg. 118-417

                         FROM INFANCY TO AGING:
                       THE EFFECTS OF CAREGIVING
                          ACROSS THE LIFESPAN

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                                HEARING

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

                          UNITED STATES SENATE

                    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTEENTH CONGRESS


                             SECOND SESSION

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                        PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA

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                             AUGUST 7, 2024

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                           Serial No. 118-22

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                       SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON AGING

              ROBERT P. CASEY, JR., Pennsylvania, Chairman

KIRSTEN E. GILLIBRAND, New York      MIKE BRAUN, Indiana
RICHARD BLUMENTHAL, Connecticut      TIM SCOTT, South Carolina
ELIZABETH WARREN, Massachusetts      MARCO RUBIO, Florida
MARK KELLY, Arizona                  RICK SCOTT, Florida
RAPHAEL WARNOCK, Georgia             J.D. VANCE, Ohio
JOHN FETTERMAN, Pennsylvania         PETE RICKETTS, Nebraska
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               Elizabeth Letter, Majority Staff Director
                Matthew Sommer, Minority Staff Director
                        
                        
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Opening Statement of Senator Robert P. Casey, Jr., Chairman......     1

                           PANEL OF WITNESSES

Heather Tomko, Outreach Coordinator, National Research and 
  Rehabilitation Training Center on Family Support, University of 
  Pittsburgh, Whitehall Borough, Pennsylvania....................     3
Tara Dawson McGuinness, Executive Director, The New Practice Lab 
  at New America, Washington, DC.................................     5
Delilah Picart, Actress, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania................     6
Victoria Snyder, Self-Care Senorita and Director of Strategic 
  Initiatives, Riverside Center for Innovation, Leet Township, 
  Pennsylvania...................................................     8
Linda Orndoff, Homecare Worker, Coal Center, Pennsylvania........    10

                                APPENDIX
                      Prepared Witness Statements

Heather Tomko, Outreach Coordinator, National Research and 
  Rehabilitation Training Center on Family Support, University of 
  Pittsburgh, Whitehall Borough, Pennsylvania....................    31
Tara Dawson McGuinness, Executive Director, The New Practice Lab 
  at New America, Washington, DC.................................    33
Delilah Picart, Actress, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania................    50
Victoria Snyder, Self-Care Senorita and Director of Strategic 
  Initiatives, Riverside Center for Innovation, Leet Township, 
  Pennsylvania...................................................    53
Linda Orndoff, Homecare Worker, Coal Center, Pennsylvania........    54

                       Statements for the Record

Testimony of American Psychological Association Services.........    59
Testimony of MomsRising..........................................    63

 
                         FROM INFANCY TO AGING:
                       THE EFFECTS OF CAREGIVING.
                          ACROSS THE LIFESPAN

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                                      Wednesday, August 7, 2024

                                            U.S. Senate
                                       Special Committee on Aging
                                                    Washington, DC.
                                                    
    The Committee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:00 a.m., at 
Vintage Senior Services, 421 North Highland Avenue, Pittsburgh, 
Pennsylvania, Hon. Robert P. Casey, Jr., Chairman of the 
Committee, presiding.
    Present: Senator Casey

                 OPENING STATEMENT OF SENATOR 
                 ROBERT P. CASEY, JR., CHAIRMAN

    The Chairman. Welcome, everyone. This hearing of the Senate 
Special Committee on Aging, this is a field hearing and the 
hearing will come to order. I want to start by thanking our 
host today, Vintage Center for Active Adults, and Heather--
where's Heather? Maybe she's in the other room.
    Heather, thanks for making this possible, and I know your 
whole team is part of that, so we're grateful for your 
hospitality to talk about the critical issues we're here to 
discuss, and I'm grateful to be with our witnesses, each of 
whom I'll introduce in a moment.
    The title of today's hearing is "From Infancy to Aging: The 
Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan." Today, we'll focus 
on the caregiving needs for children, for aging adults, for 
family members with disabilities, and for the needs of those 
who care for and support them.
    Over the past 60 years, caring for our loved ones has 
become more and more difficult, with many family members taking 
on caregiving roles, in addition to their other family and work 
responsibilities. Tens and tens of millions of Americans work 
as caregivers. By one estimate, there are more than 1.6 million 
here in Pennsylvania, serving as caregivers.
    Some care for young children, some care for aging parents 
and family members with disabilities, and some care for all 
three. A large portion of adults are now in what we know as the 
"sandwich generation." They're providing care for multiple 
family members, often caring for children, while also caring 
for an aging parent or a family member with a disability.
    These increased care needs are putting significant stress 
on families, resulting in lost wages, and decreased financial 
stability. For example, and this obviously we'll hear lot, many 
more examples today, but Linda Orndoff, who's with us today, is 
a caregiver, and in her testimony, she discusses these 
stresses, and that might be an understatement, pointing out 
that she is currently making the same hourly wage as a 
caregiver that she made as a quality assurance assistant in the 
late 1980's and early 1990's.
    However, most caregivers are not paid for their work and 
often don't have a choice in whether or not to provide care. 
Caregiving can be a role that provides great joy and great 
sorrow, sometimes in the same day, or even in the same hour. 
Almost universally, however, caregivers verge on exhaustion, 
often putting their own personal and healthcare needs aside--
with finding childcare, and parents, especially women, often 
leave the workforce to care for their children, their spouses, 
or their aging parents.
    To address caregiving needs, we must invest in childcare. 
When I say we, I mean the federal government, should invest 
more in childcare to ensure that there are enough providers, 
and that families have access to affordable, quality childcare.
    We also must address the needs of families with aging 
parents and other family members who may have mobility, vision, 
hearing, and cognitive needs, and we must ensure that families 
of the over 61 million people with disabilities have the 
services and supports that they need to be full members of our 
society, and we must provide working Americans with paid sick 
leave, and family and medical leave, to be available to provide 
care to family members when needed.
    We must continue to invest in programs like home and 
community-based services, so-called HCBS, to make it possible 
for aging Americans and people with disabilities to receive 
care in their homes and in the community. A common theme that 
many families raise when talking about care is the 
inconsistency of care and the turnover of staff, whether they 
be childcare providers or home health staff.
    Today's witnesses shine a spotlight on the value and the 
challenge of the unpaid work of family caregivers. We need to 
do more to acknowledge them, to lift them up, to provide 
families with the resources they need to care for each other 
and to care for themselves, and Isaac Bashevis Singer's short 
story, Gimpel the Fool, he writes, "God gives us burdens, also 
shoulders." Some shoulders are strong, others have been worn 
down. We need to do more, and again, I'll say it, the federal 
government needs to do more to support those providing care as 
well as those needing care. As a country, we can provide 
supports so that all of our shoulders can provide the care our 
loved ones need.
    Today, we'll hear from five witnesses who will discuss 
their experiences receiving care and as caregivers. I look 
forward to their stories about the challenges they face, the 
stressors in their lives, as well as the successes they have 
experienced in their caregiving roles.
    Let me start by introducing our witnesses. Our first 
witness is Heather Tomko. Heather is the outreach coordinator 
for the National Center on Family Support at the University of 
Pittsburgh and lives in Whitehall Borough. Heather, thanks for 
being here with us, and Heather also serves as the connection 
between research grants and the larger family caregiving 
community. She also has a website that comments on daily life 
as well as disability issues. Heather, great to be with you and 
thanks for being with us.
    Ms. Tomko. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Our second witness is Tara McGuinness. Tara 
is founder and executive director of the New Practice Lab at 
New America. She also served in the Obama Administration as a 
senior advisor in the Office of Management and Budget, 
addressing healthcare and family economic issues. She 
specializes in management, data practices and technology to 
address family and community policies. Thanks so much, Tara, 
for being with us.
    Our third witness is Delilah Picart. Delilah is an actress 
and educator who cares for her mother with dementia, and her 
brother who has fragile X syndrome and autism. She also has an 
18-year-old daughter, and she lives here in Pittsburgh. 
Delilah, thank you for being with us today.
    Our fourth witness is Victoria Snyder. Victoria is also a 
resident of Allegheny County, Leet Township, and is a single 
mother and small business owner who cares for her six-year-old 
son with autism. She's been involved in caregiving for both her 
mother and her late grandmother Victoria, thank you for being 
with us today as well.
    Our fifth and final witness, I made reference to in my 
opening, Linda Orndoff. Linda is a homecare worker who cares 
for her 89-year-old deaf mother with dementia. In addition to 
caring for her mother, she serves as a guardian for her twenty-
seven-year-old grandson who has autism along with other health 
conditions. She lives in Cole Center, Washington County. We're 
grateful to have you here.
    Why don't we start with our witness testimonies. Every 
witness will provide testimony, and then I'll start a round of 
questions, so Heather Tomko, we'll start with you. Thank you.

       STATEMENT OF HEATHER TOMKO, OUTREACH COORDINATOR,

         NATIONAL RESEARCH AND REHABILITATION TRAINING

      CENTER ON FAMILY SUPPORT, UNIVERSITY OF PITTSBURGH,

                WHITEHALL BOROUGH, PENNSYLVANIA

    Ms. Tomko. Thank you so much for having me here today, 
Chairman Casey. My name is Heather. I am 35 years old and grew 
up here in Pittsburgh. I went to both Carnegie Mellon 
University and the University of Pittsburgh, and I work there 
now at the National Center for Family Support where I serve as 
liaison between academia and the larger area community.
    As you can see, I have a disability. I have spinal muscular 
atrophy, which is a neuromuscular progressive disease, so what 
that means for me is I've never been able to walk. I've used a 
wheelchair for as long as I can remember, and I need help with 
the things that most people just take for granted every day, so 
getting in and out of bed, using the bathroom, taking a shower, 
even heating a meal prepared. These are things that I cannot do 
independently.
    For the entirety of my childhood. I got that help through 
my parents who were my unpaid family caregivers and helped me 
with those basic daily needs, but when I went to Carnegie 
Mellon University, I wanted to live in the dorms. Obviously, my 
parents couldn't come with me there, so that was my first foray 
into paid care giving and having personal care attendants.
    While I was adjusting to living away from home for the 
first time, I was also addressed into teaching new people how 
to do what are pretty intimate tasks for me, and as you heard 
in the intro, there was a lot of turnover and a lot of 
instability, so a while I did go through an agency to help me 
find and schedule those PCAs, and that when one of them had to 
call off, when the agency would try to find a replacement, the 
responsibility was on me to make sure that they found one 
because I was the one without care if they weren't able to.
    When I was studying for an exam the next morning, or 
finishing my homework or assignment, I might also be calling 
the agency every hour to see if they had found a replacement 
yet, or making an 11:00 p.m. call home to my parents asking my 
mom to come stay the night at the dorms so that I was able to 
go to class the next day and also get much needed sleep.
    This instability was a large part of the reason that I 
moved home after college and that I still live with my parents 
today. We have a patchwork system of unpaid care through my 
parents and unpaid caregiver, and my sister shares the same 
disability that I do and lives at home with me, so we are 
constantly figuring out logistics of two adults trying to live 
their lives and deal with the uncertainty of when a caregiver 
has to call off, and we all have to figure out our schedule for 
the next day and how to make just the basics of a day happen, 
and these are my experiences, but these are something that I 
see shared every day in my role as the outreach coordinator. No 
matter what webinar or program I'm holding, I get multiple 
questions of how family members can find paid caregivers to 
help them better support their loved ones, because right now--
paid and unpaid caregivers as two separate entities. They're 
really existing on a spectrum. Family members are looking for 
paid caregivers to help them support their loved ones so that 
these family members can also take care of themselves and their 
needs.
    My parents are aging. I'm 35. I know that they can only 
provide the support that they are right now for a few more 
years, and I really fear where that leaves me to have a vibrant 
life, and work, have friends, and hobbies, and living up in a 
nursing home is a very real fear of mine that I grapple with 
every day.
    This is something that has been bad always, but after the 
pandemic, when other companies reacted by raising wages to make 
up for the loss of workers, as you have mentioned, caregivers 
have not seen that increase in wages, so I am struggling with 
not knowing if a replacement caregiver will be found when 
mother's gone off or if I'll have to deal with the mental and 
physical strain of trying to train new caregivers, daily or 
weekly, just to meet my basic needs.
    We need to see increased wages for paid caregivers to make 
this into a viable career choice and not one that you have 
shifts more in the fly, so I urge you, Chairman Casey, and the 
Committee, and the federal government to invest in the paid 
caregivers to make this a viable career option so that people 
like me can live our lives to the fullest. Thank you so much.
    The Chairman. Heather, thanks so much, and thanks for 
sharing so much of your own personal experience, and we're 
going to get further into it with some questions.
    We'll turn next to Tara. Thank you.

              STATEMENT OF TARA DAWSON MCGUINNESS,

              EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THE NEW PRACTICE

               LAB AT NEW AMERICA, WASHINGTON, DC

    Ms. McGuinness. Thank you, Chairman Casey.
    "We resonate with many here. The youngest grandson is 
autistic. You know what I'm saying? I can't take him everywhere 
because I have to hold his hand 24/7, even walking down the 
street. I can't release his hand because he'll wander off."
    These are the words of Walter, a grandfather and sole 
caregiver of his two grandchildren in Philadelphia. He is one 
of the number of families who are part of our Thriving Families 
Project, an ongoing effort in Pennsylvania and other states to 
really listen to families, as we're doing today, and get a 
whole picture of what helps them thrive.
    Unfortunately, at a policy level, what we're doing here 
today is very rare. We don't often center on the family 
experience. We approach these phases of life as separate 
challenges; early education, childcare, policy, disability. 
However, as you're hearing from Heather and others, care shows 
up all at once in a family. If we're raising young children, we 
might also be caregiving for our parents. If we are 
grandparents, we might, like Walter, be unexpectedly raising 
our grandchildren.
    In Pennsylvania, that is true for more than 76,000 
grandparents who live with children or whom they're 
responsible. Nearly half of these grandparents are in the 
workforce themselves. Other families live with challenges that 
are different. I know this to be true. I have young kids and 
aging parents. Like 20 million American families, mine cares 
for someone with disabilities.
    Today in the U.S. though, we make it way too hard at all 
ends of the spectrum. First, to start and raise a family. 
Household costs go up with a birth of a child, right at the 
same time that wages go down. About 130,000 new children are 
born in Pennsylvania every year, and folks are starting to 
raise a family.
    When a new baby is born, parents are on their own to figure 
out how to manage care because there is no paid family medical 
leave. Having a child is just the beginning. Being able to make 
a living and raise kids is hard because most communities don't 
start school until kids are five. That's true for 800,000 
working parents here in Pennsylvania with kids under the age 
five, and the majority of them need care.
    This care comes at a very steep cost. Last year, the 
average Pennsylvanian family paid about $14,000 a year for 
center-based care. This of course varies widely across the 
State from around $8,000 a year to nearly $20,000 in other 
places. Here in Allegheny County, the average for a year of 
care is around $13,700.
    Affordability is just one piece of the equation. Childcare, 
staffing shortages mean there's simply not enough providers to 
meet families' needs.
    In Pittsburgh, childcare workers make on average $13 and 42 
cents per hour, which is about $28,000 of an annual salary. For 
a childcare worker to have a modest living standard and raise 
their own children, they would need, on average, $40,000 more a 
year than they're making. Wages are far too low, as we've 
discussed, and this has huge effects because often, these jobs 
are done by women and women of color, and so, the rippling 
effects of low wages spreads out.
    It isn't just families with young kids, families taking 
care of a loved one with a disability as 14 percent of 
Pennsylvanians are while trying to earn a living have 
challenges, and as we age, you know, modern science has allowed 
us to live longer and more than any point in history, but that 
means we have new care needs. Pennsylvania is home to, 
generally, 3.4 million older adults. To meet their needs, 
Pennsylvania will have to recruit 275,000 new care workers in 
the next six years, and this turnover rate here is around 64 
percent.
    We have experienced dramatic shifts in how we live. In just 
a few generations, we moved from a typical family, having one 
person at home doing caregiving, to a situation where most 
American children are raised by two working parents, but we 
failed to make changes that would create infrastructure to meet 
these needs. This care fix isn't an impossible dream.
    Nearly all countries in the world have the things we're 
being discussed, and even 13 states across America have paid 
family medical leave. Globally, our partners all have 
investments much greater than ours in high quality early 
education. Making caregiving a legislative priority need not be 
partisan. 82 percent of voters support making it easier for 
people to care for the people they love.
    Thich Nhat Hanh said, "Caring is the bridge that connects 
us to one another." Today, we are in deep need of more 
connection and policies that enable us to do and care for those 
we love. I want to thank Senator Casey and the Aging Care 
Committee. This hearing is a very important step for the 
federal policies to anchor into the voices of folks like those 
in the room, and to answer what families are universally asking 
for; policies that support them through the moments of all 
their lives that require care.
    Thank you, Senator Casey.
    The Chairman. Tara, thanks so much, and I was highlighting 
a lot of those numbers as you were giving the numbers we need 
to remember when we're formulating policy. We'll try to get 
into them a little bit later.
    Delilah.

             STATEMENT OF DELILAH PICART, ACTRESS, 
                    PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA

    Ms. Picart. Thank you.
    Good morning, Chairman Casey. My name is Delilah Picart. 
I'm from New York City, yet I've called Pittsburgh, 
Pennsylvania, my home for 20 years. My professional career as a 
working local actress has allowed me to appear in films and 
commercials, but currently I have a job I didn't apply for, and 
I can't quit.
    I am a caregiver to my brother and mother. I moved them 
here from East Harlem in April 2023, when it became obvious 
that mom couldn't take care of herself or my brother anymore. 
My brother, Eric, has fragile X syndrome and severe autism. I 
always anticipated I'd have to take care of him. My mother, 
Vivian has moderate dementia. I didn't think I would be taking 
care of her. My father, Enrique died in 2011 from complications 
of Alzheimer's disease.
    I have a complicated relationship with my mother. She 
believed in tough love parenting, and with therapy I realized 
we are fundamentally different people, so for my own mental 
health, I would go and visit my mother and brother three times 
a year, never for more than five days. My mother called me one 
evening in July 2022. She said she was having a hard time, and 
she wanted to get a power of attorney document.
    I decided to visit my mother and brother once a month for a 
three-day weekend, and over the next nine months, I saw my 
mother ignore and neglect my brother. She would forget 
appointments. She would forget to feed my brother. She no 
longer cooked. Her refrigerator was packed with containers of 
food wrapped in plastic bags. She had bags of liquefied 
lettuce, molded vegetables, old bags of bacon.
    It was very obvious to me that Vivian had dementia. Eric 
was being neglected and they needed to move closer to me. I 
asked my family members to help pack her up to move with a 
target date of April. As a caregiver to two individuals with 
very specific different needs, I am exhausted.
    I'm mentally, emotionally, physically, and psychologically 
tired. I don't have the luxury or the monetary fluidity to take 
a break. As their primary caregiver, I manage their daily care, 
which includes pill management, preparing all meals, laundry, 
garbage disposal, transportation, dressing, coordinating, and 
scheduling of companions, cleaning the apartment, grocery 
shopping as needed, scheduling doctor's appointments, personal 
grooming appointments, bathing reminders.
    My family lives in a two-bedroom, two-bathroom apartment, 
four blocks away from my house in Shadyside. It was decided 
very quickly that they could not move in with me and my fiance, 
Todd. Mom, had a very hard time adjusting for the first six 
months. She was aggressive. After she threw a computer tablet 
at me and missed, I got her on meds that have calmed her down.
    My brother was very happy with the move. He was getting 
three meals a day and healthy snacks. I introduced him to red 
peppers, and avocado toast, and lemonade. I could tell he 
finally felt validated and acknowledged. Eric was receiving 
services in New York City, but he was ineligible in 
Pennsylvania until he had legal residency for six months. Even 
then, I had to show medical records for over 30 years ago, 
describing and diagnosing his dual disability.
    By January of this year, he had a very helpful case worker. 
His individualized support plan declared him an emergency case 
because he was living with his mother who was diagnosed with 
dementia. Still, it took eight months before he received 
emergency waivers. Recently, his behavior has changed, and now 
he leaves his apartment and arrives at my house to sit on my 
porch by 5:00 a.m. I have adapted. I love my brother immensely.
    I have a good life. I'm fortunate. I have a therapist, a 
support group, and a weekly session with a trainer at a gym. 
Both Todd and my daughter help, yet, I've had low points. I've 
watched the Twin Towers fall. I've had four car accidents. I've 
had a stalker terrorize me, and I've had my father go missing 
for 34 days. This is the most challenging event I have ever 
experienced.
    When I'm asked, "How are you?" I give a very bland reply, 
"I'm fine. Everything's good." With my close friends and a few 
family members, I'm honest. I'm sad, or angry, or good in this 
moment. I'm tissue paper thin. I'm spent. I'm struggling. I 
just can't today.
    In an ideal world, a hotline would be available to provide 
urgent support. An example, cleaning services, laundry 
services, meal delivery, companionship. Medicare, and Medicaid 
would easily transfer information across states. A caregiver 
would be granted a parking pass to go into the disabled parking 
spots at the grocery store and hospitals, et cetera.
    State programs could provide college credit to graduate 
students in the social services department and have said 
students provide hands-on companion care to people with 
intellectual developmental disabilities. Supplemental income 
would be provided to caregivers with more than one individual 
in their care and would include people with all forms of 
dementia and severe autism, not exclusively for people who are 
incapacitated and home bound. Service agencies would receive 
more money to have more staff and more respite housing, so 
emergency means immediately, not eight months.
    Thank you for your time and your attention, Senator.
    The Chairman. Delilah, thank you for sharing your personal 
story, and I like to think I have a challenging job, but 
nothing compares to what you and others are living with every 
day, so we're grateful you're willing to share it in a public 
setting to help us better understand what the challenges are, 
and to then by definition, challenge us to find better 
solutions.
    Victoria.

        STATEMENT OF VICTORIA SNYDER, SELF-CARE SENORITA

             AND DIRECTOR OF STRATEGIC INITIATIVES,

             RIVERSIDE CENTER FOR INNOVATION, LEET

                     TOWNSHIP, PENNSYLVANIA

    Ms. Snyder. Good morning. I'm Victoria Snyder, and I'm a 
single mom to a terrific son, Braxton, who's about to start 
first grade. We live here in the Pittsburgh area and I am a 
proud member of MomsRising.
    I first want to start and say thank you to Senator Casey 
for organizing this hearing and for all you do to improve the 
support for caregivers. It truly means a world to moms like me, 
and I appreciate the chance to share my family's story and many 
families that are similar to mine. I'm a sandwich generation 
mom who has sole physical and financial responsibility for my 
son. Over the past few years, I've also provided care for my 
mother and for my late grandmother.
    Juggling care for a young child and aging relative has 
become an enormous challenge as we've heard, financially and 
emotionally. These challenges are much worse because lawmakers 
have failed to ensure working people can access paid leave, and 
quality, affordable childcare, and elder care.
    The beginning of the pandemic was especially hard for our 
family. During Covid, Braxton was diagnosed with being on the 
autism spectrum. He needed occupational speech and behavioral 
therapy each week, and I don't know if you've ever had to do 
Zoom with a two-year-old, but it's not exactly an enjoyable 
process. My grandmother got Covid and spent months going in and 
out of the hospital. My mom also was injured during that time, 
and she spent some time in the hospital.
    I had no money coming in as I had lost my job when Covid 
had happened, and couldn't look for a job because I had no one 
to watch Braxton because childcare was closed. It was an 
extremely scary time, filled with a lot of worries about what 
tomorrow would bring, because of the unknown and even 
flexibility with my own schedule and Braxton's needs, I started 
a business, Self-Care Senorita, and worked as a small business 
coach and DEI consultant. During all this, my biggest fear was 
always what would happen if I got Covid, or worse, an injury 
that would cause me to not be able to work. I couldn't get 
sick. I couldn't get hurt. What if I did? I wouldn't be able to 
work, and then what would happen with my family? Destitution 
was always a knock at the door. Those what-ifs still haunt me 
every day.
    Thankfully, Braxton's preschool finally reopened, and 
having childcare again was a relief and allowed me to work more 
hours, but it also cost me $800 a month, a big portion of my 
take home pay, and that was being discounted as a low-income 
single parent. Last year, Braxton started kindergarten, and I 
took a full-time job so he could have medical benefits. I'm 
still struggling with childcare outside of school hours. At 
first, I tried enrolling him in an afterschool program, but 
that program is expensive and ultimately, we just couldn't 
afford it.
    Instead, I interrupt my workday each afternoon to pick him 
up from school, which is stressful. In order to get my work 
hours in, I log in before school, I take him to school. I 
pause, get him dressed, get him ready, take him to school, drop 
him off. Pause, and work again to drive to work. Go to work, 
work, leave there to go get him from school, and then come home 
and work most evenings.
    It's exhausting trying to manage it all. Even today, there 
were seven steps to my morning. I had to take my son to my work 
for a coworker to take him to childcare, his summer camp, 
because it didn't open until 9:30, so even being able to do 
really amazing things like this, there's still difficulty in 
access to childcare.
    My new job does also does not provide paid leave. I still 
worry about what would happen if my mother or my son were to 
get sick. I have to save all my paid time off for a what-if 
scenario instead of using it for a vacation time with family or 
even for my own sick days.
    Unfortunately, I know so many parents and caregivers can 
relate to these challenges. Here in Pennsylvania, about two-
thirds of us do not have access to any paid leave through our 
employers to care for our kids ourselves or our aging loved 
ones. About 60 percent of us live in childcare deserts, and for 
kids under five, care costs nearly as much as public college 
tuition. These challenges have limited my income and my career 
opportunities, and I know so many moms who can say the same 
thing. When working people like me can't fully utilize our 
skills, that's bad for business and our overall economy.
    As I've juggled these responsibilities over the years, I 
often feel like I'm running in a thousand directions at once. 
Sandwich generation caregivers like me are struggling with 
burnout and exhaustion. I joined MomsRising because I know the 
only way we'll see progress is if we raise our voices. So, I'll 
never stop using my voice to tell lawmakers to invest in the 
care infrastructure working families' need with paid leave for 
all, affordable, high-quality childcare, elder care, and 
disability care, and expanded childcare tax credit.
    Senator Casey, thank you for what you do and the fight that 
you do for us. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Victoria. Thank you for sharing your story as 
well, and you've given us a lot to think about on that list you 
provided at the end of action items. Victoria gave us a list of 
action items at the end of her testimony, and I think that's 
something that federal legislators like me ought to be 
cognizant of, so thank you.
    Finally, Linda, we'll conclude with you.

   STATEMENT OF LINDA ORNDOFF, HOMECARE WORKER, COAL CENTER, 
                          PENNSYLVANIA

    Ms. Orndoff. Hello, Chairman Casey. My name is Linda 
Orndoff. I'm a homecare worker from Coal Center, PA, and I take 
care of my elderly mother and my oldest grandson who has 
autism.
    I'm a participant-directed homecare worker, and this means 
I work directly for my participants; my mother, and my 
grandson, rather than through an agency. This type of care 
allows the participant to direct their own care and to choose 
who works for them. A lot of times, like in our situation, this 
means family members. They choose people they know and are 
comfortable with rather than whomever the agency sends.
    Nevertheless, whether you're a participant-directed or an 
agency worker, doing homecare work is a big sacrifice. When I 
was asked to come here today to speak to you, I was told to 
just tell my story. I want to share what it's like to be a 
homecare worker, but to make you understand what a homecare 
worker goes through, you need to know why the situation is like 
it is, because of poverty, wages, and no benefits, we have a 
huge crisis in the homecare industry. Tens of thousands of 
homecare workers must depend on state and federal system 
programs like food stamps, Medicaid, and sometimes cash 
assistance just to live.
    In our country, there's only one caregiver for every six 
people who need more care to make it possible for them to be 
able to remain in their homes. Without enough homecare workers, 
many people are being forced into nursing homes and assisted 
living facilities as they cannot find caregivers to keep them 
at home.
    In 2021, the annual turnover in the care workforce was 64 
percent and it has only gotten worse. It's gotten worse because 
most potential caregivers are unable to do this type of work 
when it pays so little and offers no benefits and no security. 
In my case, when my mother and my grandson began needing my 
care full-time, I had a big choice to make put; them in a home 
or quit my job, and I chose them.
    After that, everything about my life changed. When I had to 
quit my job, I took a huge pay cut and suddenly I had to figure 
out how to live on poverty wages. I'm currently making $13.52 
an hour, which is the same hourly wage I made back in the late 
80's and early 90's. I could barely live on those wages then, 
and I certainly can't live on those poverty wages now.
    When I chose to take care of my family and stop working, I 
no longer had health insurance, no paid sick time, no paid 
vacations, and no type of retirement benefits whatsoever. My 
mother and grandson depend on my care ten hours a day, seven 
days a week. My mother has polycythemia vera which is a rare 
blood disorder that makes your blood too thick and can lead to 
strokes and organ damage. She also has chronic kidney disease. 
She is also senile and has some dementia. She gets angry a lot 
and is very defiant, mostly toward me.
    We live in the country, on four acres, and she likes to 
wander away a lot--mostly tracking her cat. Two summers ago, 
she disappeared from me, and I couldn't find her anywhere. I 
was about to call 911 when I heard a noise at the top end of 
the property. I found her in weeds up to her waist, in bedroom 
slippers, trying to pull old lumber with rusty nails in it that 
my brother-in-law had stacked there to burn, so now I have 
video cameras set up everywhere to track her.
    Last summer she fell in the front yard about 100 yards from 
the house, looking for the cat, and she couldn't get up, so she 
was crawling up through the yard. She lets the cat out the 
front door and immediately goes to the back door and starts 
calling her to come in. My mother likes to get up in the middle 
of the night and rearrange all the cupboards in the house. Last 
year when the overflow on the bathroom sink rusted out and 
started leaking, I told her I was going to have to replace the 
sink, but she decided it was the drainpipes instead, so she 
took a hammer and fixed them. Boy did she ever.
    On top of all of that, she is totally deaf, even with her 
hearing aids in. This makes communication with her incredibly 
difficult. I have tried several voice-to-text programs, but 
they screw up more than they work, so I have to write lots and 
lots of notes. I could tell you a lot more stories, but suffice 
it to say, she keeps me very busy.
    In 2014, shortly after I took guardianship of my oldest 
grandson, he was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. Asperger 
syndrome is a previously used diagnosis that is on the autism 
spectrum. He also suffers from chronic depression and obesity. 
In 2019 he and I started a walking program, and he lost over 60 
pounds in three months. I was very proud of him.
    Unfortunately, my mother's mobile home that they lived in 
caught fire. It was a total loss. I was able to get them a 
newer, manufactured home to replace it, but everything was 
reliant on me, and by the time I got everything up to the newer 
codes, and got the house set up and them back home, he had put 
almost all the weight back on. Since then, with my mother's 
further decline, it has been very difficult for me to be able 
to leave the house. My grandson's weight has continued to 
escalate, and I worry every day about his health, which is 
starting to decline.
    I am very active with my union SEIU, United Home Care 
Workers of PA. In recent years we fought for and won paid 
training classes for homecare workers. These classes teach home 
care workers CPR and safety training, which I have completed. 
They also offer classes in working with dementia and autism 
patients, that I would love to take. I feel they would help me 
in dealing with the day-to-day tasks of taking care of my 
mother and grandson.
    However, these are both eight-hour courses, and while they 
are paid training, when you have no one to cover for you, it is 
very difficult to get them done. As a participant-directed 
worker, I do not have the same collective bargaining in PA like 
other workers. This needs to change so we can fully advocate 
for ourselves. In states where homecare workers have collective 
bargaining, they have won important victories like healthcare 
and living wages, because of the workforce crisis in our 
industry, it is nearly impossible to get backup care, so if I 
get sick there is no one there to take care of them. A couple 
of years ago when I caught Covid, I was completely down for 
five days. My older sister who can sometimes help me was in 
Florida on vacation and there was no one to feed my mother or 
grandson.
    This year in May, I was bit on the neck by a spider. I got 
very sick for almost a week, but I managed to keep working. I 
don't have health insurance, so I didn't go to the doctor. 
After a week I started to get better, and then I got sick 
again. I had a rash on my neck that was spreading that I had 
attributed to the spider bite. Then the pain started, and it 
got so bad I went from wondering if I was going to die to 
hoping that I would. I finally went to a doctor even though I 
couldn't afford it. I was eventually diagnosed with stage three 
Lyme disease, but if we had health insurance, this never would 
have progressed to that point.
    I would like to be able to tell you, other than the fact 
that bugs seem to like me, that my story is a unique one, but 
it is not. In my time in the union, I have spoken to a lot of 
workers who work 90 and even 100 hours a week. I have listened 
to the story of a young woman from Philadelphia who after 
working a full day taking care of her elderly diabetic mother, 
she then loads her in a car, even in the dead of winter, with 
her blankets and medicines and drives for DoorDash all night to 
keep a roof over their heads. I have heard stories from workers 
who have contemplated suicide from depression over facing 
eviction from their homes.
    We all know homecare workers save the system, and 
taxpayers, tens of thousands of dollars per year caring for 
folks in their homes over putting them in nursing homes or 
assisted living facilities, and that these folks have better 
overall health outcomes, but we need to come up with a plan for 
how to get caregivers out of poverty. Otherwise, there is no 
way that we can build a sustainable homecare system. We can't 
take care of them if we can't take care of ourselves. Thank 
you.
    The Chairman. Linda, thank you as well for providing your 
own personal testimony. Look, I've used the phrase, and we you 
hear it a lot these days, that there's a care crisis in America 
or a caregiving crisis in America. You don't need to hear much 
more than what you just heard from our witnesses to validate 
that point.
    We have a lot of work to do as a country. We call ourselves 
the greatest country in the world, and we are in terms of our 
military and our economy. There's no country in the world 
that's even close, but we're not the greatest country in the 
world when it comes to caregiving. We've got a lot of work to 
do. I want to explore some of that with our witnesses now. I'll 
start with Heather.
    Heather, you mentioned receiving care from your parents and 
from paid caregivers. You also do excellent work in, in your 
own capacity as the outreach coordinator for the National 
Center on Family Support at Pitt, and we're grateful for that 
work. In that work. You hear from hundreds of people who need 
care support. You said in your testimony that paid caregiving 
or paid caregivers, I should say, aren't, "necessarily to 
replace unpaid care, but to supplement it to allow family 
caregivers the time and space to care for themselves."
    I'm quoting you when I say that, but can you tell us more 
about having adequate caregiving services, how those services 
help you and those that you interact with, how they enjoy non-
work activities and make it possible to have relationships 
outside of their family?
    Ms. Tomko. Sure. As I mentioned it and as you just 
repeated, I think family caregivers like my parents and paid 
caregivers, but with the balances right now, there's much more 
reliance my parents and much less reliance on paid caregivers 
because we have not been able to find stable paid caregivers 
who are able come back to really help with my care, so because 
of this, both of my parents definitely limit and feel stressed 
with their own jobs because they know that they're responsible 
for their work, but they're also responsible on some days for 
getting me out of bed so that I can go to my work, so they're 
declining meetings that they should be at because it's either 
saying no to a meeting or telling me I can't get out of bed for 
the day.
    In terms of my own life, it's been the same. I'm declining 
meetings because I know that logistically it's not possible for 
me to attend on time because there are only so many hours in a 
day, and my life, my getting ready takes longer than a normal 
person's. You know, what might take someone who's not disabled 
five minutes to wash their face and brush their teeth is going 
to take me 10 or 15 just to get set up and get comfortable.
    When I'm in my chair, I'm in my wheelchair for five hours 
at a time, so if I'm not comfortable and situated properly, I'm 
going to be uncomfortable for five hours, and that's physically 
dangerous and mentally and emotionally stressful.
    Right now, we're all living kind of in the day-to-day and 
trying to just get through one day and onto the next, but if 
there were a better balance, if I were able to find more paid 
caregivers to have and take some of that load off of my 
parents, both mentally and physically, we would all be able to 
have a much less stressful life and be able to focus more on 
family things and less on the logistical challenges of just 
day-to-day life.
    I see that in the many, many people I have talked to 
through my job. When we had a webinar and opened the Q&A, they 
weren't asking for paid caregivers to replace what they do. 
They love the people that they're caring for, but they didn't 
need help to be able to live their own lives and take care of 
themselves.
    Right now, we're just not able to balance those needs 
appropriately, and there's a very, very heavy load on family 
caregivers and a heavy load, frankly, on my paid caregiver who 
knows that if she calls out, the burden is falling on my 
family.
    I know that I've seen her limit her own appointments and 
days off and time with her own family because she does feel 
obligated to care for me, and I appreciate that more than I can 
ever say, and I wish that I knew if she called off, that I was 
able to find a reliable path and let her not make her career, 
her job into her life as well. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Heather, thanks. Thanks for reminding us 
about your own circumstances, but also those that you hear 
about from those that you interact with at work. I'll turn to 
my left side of the table to ask a question. Maybe the same 
question for Delilah and for Tori, as I was calling you, 
Victoria, albeit a little less formal, and Linda,
    Each of you shared some of the unique circumstances that 
you face in your caregiving responsibilities with your 
families, but I guess I wanted to--if you could just itemize, 
if you had to list, what's the most--or what's the list of the 
most difficult challenges you have when it comes to caring for 
multiple family members? Maybe Delilah, we'll start with you, 
and we'll go down until----
    Ms. Picart. Time scheduling and coordination of time. I pay 
out-of-pocket for a companion for my mother and a companion for 
my brother. I've had instances where I've taken my mother to 
her doctor's appointment, and for health reasons, my brother's 
companion has to bring my brother back to the apartment early, 
so I have to maybe not stop off and get my mother lunch. I have 
to go to the apartment to receive my brother, and then I have 
to give my mother her pills, her afternoon pills, and then I 
could go out and get them both lunch.
    There have been times when I'll take my brother out to go 
to the movies. That's easily a three-and-a-half-hour window. 
I'll have to return him and take him to back to the apartment 
that he shares with my mom, and unfortunately, my mom may have 
soiled herself, so now I have to get her to--there goes my idea 
of getting back and dropping him off and going shopping. Now I 
have to take care of her, make sure she has a shower, make sure 
my brother is okay because he gets agitated.
    Scheduling and coordination of time for the two of them is 
really the biggest, and also with fragile X, my brother has a 
compulsion to eat, so I can't leave any food in the apartment. 
For instance, he saw Rocky about a month and a half ago, and he 
decided he could eat raw eggs, so I had to remove the raw eggs 
from the apartment, so there's no food in their apartment. Mom 
forgets to eat, so, and my brother will eat anything, so just 
something like that. Being conscious of portion control for the 
two of them because they both have diabetes, and reminding my 
mom that she has it because she's in a state of denial about 
it. Teaching my brother that he can have healthy snacks that 
don't include soda, things like that.
    I have a saying where I have an economy of time. When I'm 
in the apartment, I make sure--and I'm usually there early in 
the morning to prepare, to give my mother her pills and prepare 
breakfast for her and then bring her here as a matter of fact--
if it gets messed up, such as this morning she had an accident 
in her bed, so I had to strip the bed, help her take a shower, 
and then dress her, and then prepare her breakfast and stuff 
like that. Also, I could get here on time, and I could get her 
here on time, so I practice the economy of time when I'm with 
her and with my brother.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Tori.
    Ms. Snyder. I think the hardest part is that access to 
childcare is difficult. Affordable childcare is difficult, but 
quality childcare is difficult, right? There's a lot of people 
I could just pass my kid to, but he's on the spectrum, so what 
happens if he gets overwhelmed and runs off, because he's 
sometimes an eloper. That stress sometimes is more. To me is 
not worth it. I'd rather just not do, just not go, because I 
could provide the better care, so that ties into what Heather 
had said. A lot of career--lack of advancement because I just 
can't be places. I can't do things. Even remote things, you 
still have a kid that still needs time with his mom. He's been 
at school all day. He doesn't want me sitting in front of a 
computer. He doesn't get that, right? Furthermore, I don't want 
to do it either. I want to play with my kid, so that's a 
difficulty.
    There's not a lot of senior care. My mom is still fully 
functioning. She's wonderful, slight health concerns, but as 
she ages, I do not make enough money to cover childcare and 
potentially supporting of her. I know that she feels that worry 
and she feels that strain, and it's one of those things like--I 
guess, we'll have that conversation when we get to that point, 
but that's always a worry.
    To navigate care services is difficult. There's not an 
office that you go to. If you make too much money, you don't 
qualify for services. If you make not enough money, you can't 
live because there's no way and nowhere to pay for anything, so 
I feel like there's this gap of everyday Americans that need a 
little extra, but there's no way to get a little extra, so it's 
not just the caregiving, but it's if I send my child to school, 
I need to know that he has a quality education.
    We live in a more affluent district that I really can't 
afford because that school has a better special education 
department to support him. We could live in a town over, but 
that would not be supportive of his needs, so you struggle with 
that. School choice, I think, is an issue in this State as 
well. That's a different conversation for a different committee 
at a different time.
    I think all these issues compile of you're just trying to 
make every day manageable, and you feel bad too because the 
caregivers we have had and the childcare we've had, they've 
been wonderful, amazing people, and they deserve to have the 
working wages as well. Neither of us should be saying, well, 
here's something for you today, here's extra for you. Or if 
they miss a day of work, they then can't take care of their 
family as well, and so, it feels very chicken-and-egg scenario.
    I think we all just want to eat and have a fruitful farm, 
and so, I think conversations at a deeper level of 
infrastructure and care, but also having it with people that it 
affects their lives the most is most imperative. Having 
lawmakers just say, well, here's a budget and this can go is 
great, but I think you have to hear how that money would be 
allotted, and where it would go to, and how it would support 
the everyday person in their caregiving and childcare needs.
    The Chairman. Tori, thank you. Linda?
    Ms. Orndoff. Yes. I agree with Delilah that the hardest 
thing is the problems of scheduling time when you're dealing 
with two different, you know, participants, and especially like 
with my mom, she needs, you know, almost constant care.
    My grandson, like I explained, he is on the autism scale, 
but his needs--I don't want to say his needs get overlooked--
but his additional needs, like when we did the walking program 
before, you know, with him, you've got to make things 
interesting and all of that.
    When we did it, you know, we would get in the car and we 
would drive to area parks and that type of thing. It had to be 
an adventure with him. You know, you can't just like take him 
outside and walk him around. He's not going to do it.
    You know, his doctor had a long time ago described him as 
passive resistant and that that's how he is. He just sits down 
and won't do it. You know, and to try to worry about her, what 
she's doing and everything, and to try to take care of him.
    Like I said before, you know, he discovered DoorDash a few 
years ago, which has been my nightmare. You know, like up until 
that point, I could control, you know, what food was coming 
into the house, so I had a little bit of control over his, you 
know, weight problems and things, and once he discovered 
DoorDash, all of that went out the window. You know, they're 
pulling up my driveway at 10 o'clock at night, that sort of 
thing.
    It's just very hard to try to manage, you know, to--but I 
can't leave with him and take him on walking adventures and 
when there's no one there to cover, you know, to have with my 
mother there, and you know, with the shortage in the workforce 
in this industry, there's no way for me to be able to have 
somebody else there, so the scheduling thing, yes, I would say 
is the biggest, biggest dilemma.
    The Chairman. Thank you. I want to turn to Tara. I wanted 
to ask a question that focuses on unpaid and family caregiving. 
Delilah had said in her testimony about the demands of 
caregiving, and I'm quoting just part of what she said in this 
paragraph of her testimony, but she said, ``I'm tissue paper 
thin. I'm spent. I'm struggling.'' She went on from there, but 
you study in your work, Tara, the family. You study families 
and the effects of both policies and circumstances that they 
face, and you mentioned in your testimony, the policies often 
fail to center on the family experience. Can you share some of 
the long-term effects of unpaid caregiving on families and 
family members? How do you think we could better support people 
doing this important work?
    Ms. McGuinness. Certainly. The effects on caregivers, as 
you heard from the wisdom in the room, which really, I want to 
emphasize is not on average. That behind every person sitting 
at the table is another million people with the same problem.
    The caregivers abstain from finding paid work, or following 
passion and education due to unpaid care duties. This is both 
important at the individual level for people to live their own 
promise, but also has a collective impact on our economy. The 
effects are profound, and more profound for women who do the 
majority of unpaid work, and who often experience in their own 
individual lives.
    Stunted opportunity growth, especially, you can see it in 
the data in childbearing years. I think Tori said you went back 
right when kindergarten started. There is a massive increase of 
women in the workforce at the age in which everyone has school.
    The Chairman. You said stunted. What'd you say after that?
    Ms. McGuinness. Opportunity.
    The Chairman. Opportunity, yes.
    Ms. McGuinness. Opportunity, advancement. It could be 
career growth, it could be education, it could be fulfilling, 
having the freedom of fulfill your dreams, and this aggregates 
to a wide gender earnings gap. This is both true for the unpaid 
caregivers who are skipping a meeting or an opportunity because 
it's just not, logistically, and timing-wise, practical. You 
can see it in a gender earnings gap because of who caregivers 
are. It has massive race implications because of who paid 
caregivers are.
    These are just a few, Senator Casey of the ways in which 
what we're hearing here is individual stories ladder up. 
Pennsylvania alone, you can actually aggregate the lost dollars 
to the economy, so these aren't isolated edge cases. This is a 
collective problem that shows up at a structural level for 
educational attainment as well as the larger economy. Thank 
you.
    The Chairman. I wanted to go back to Linda for a question. 
Linda, you mentioned you're a member of Pennsylvania, SEIU 
Healthcare, a union that I know well. A union representing 
nurses, hospital workers, nursing home workers, homecare 
workers, and you've met with state officials about the needs of 
people who receive homecare services and the workers who 
provide the services.
    You said in your testimony, ``In recent years, we fought 
for and won paid training classes for homecare workers.'' 
Through the work of the union, you can now receive paid 
training classes on topics such as CPR and caring for patients 
with dementia and autism. What benefits are there to being a 
Pennsylvania SEIU Healthcare member for both you and for those 
for whom you provide care?
    Ms. Orndoff. Well, it gives us a way to fight not only for 
our rights, but for the rights of our participants. For 
example, we currently have a bill here in the Pennsylvania 
house. It's House Bill 2372, which not only helps not only is 
looking to increase wages for participant-directed homecare 
workers, but also for accountability measures that the agencies 
and such spend a certain percentage of the money, that the 
funds to be able--oh boy, I really screwed that answer up. 
Sorry about that. It calls for accountability on the agency's 
part that the funds are spent toward home healthcare workers' 
wages and taking care of their participants.
    The Chairman. Well, that I mean, that example of providing 
those training opportunities should be more widespread than I 
know it to be nationwide, so it's a good example of what we can 
do, and I think that's important to point it out.
    Tori, you've noted that your caregiving responsibilities 
have affected your decisions about work. You made reference to 
that your last--just in the last answer you gave. We know, and 
this is a terrible understatement, but raising a family costs a 
lot, and one of the fights that I've been engaged in this 
battle is to point out corporate price gouging and what I call 
greed, deflation. I didn't make up that term, but it's a good 
description of what it is. Prices for food and household items 
being jacked up by the very companies that got these big 
corporate tax breaks in 2017.
    Apparently, a lot of them didn't need the tax break because 
they were going to jack up prices after it, and it affects 
everything. It affects food, and housing, and gas, and you name 
it, and a lot of it's just pure greed, and they are very angry 
at me for saying that, but they better get used to it because 
I'm going to keep saying it.
    Childcare is another cost. That's just through the roof. 
We've heard that today, and choosing a childcare provider has 
significant effects on family finances. Tori, you said at one 
point that you couldn't look for a job because you had no one 
to be with your son because of that juggling you talked about. 
You have exceedingly complicated mornings and well beyond the 
morning, I'm sure, but your workday's interrupted each 
afternoon so you can pick him up from school.
    Can you talk more about the career decision or the 
employment decisions you've had to make that were impacted by 
the childcare needs that you have?
    Ms. Snyder. Before I had Braxton, I was an executive vice 
president of a multimedia company, and at a very young age, I 
hit all of the big goals that you should have gotten, right? 
I've won all the awards. I've done 40 under 40. I've gotten 
this, I've gotten that. I've even testified before Congress, 
and that's not me boasting, that's saying like I'm a capable 
individual, but come the pandemic, and with Braxton, he was 
just so little at the time, childcare was so expensive that 
when he first started childcare, I could afford two days a 
week, and so, I flexed my schedule, and I worked around, and my 
mother was working at that time, full-time, and so, she could 
sometimes pick him up, or I could pick up and drop off, but I 
also had childcare, but I also had a friend who was able to 
watch him in those gaps.
    She had kids at home, too, so she was a stay-at-home mom of 
three, and so, I helped supplement her income and she was able 
to keep him if I had got stuck at work later, an event, or 
things like that, and so, that was really helpful in those 
early years, but once we hit the pandemic and the child centers 
were closed, and then they reopened, and then it was like, 
well, we're closed because of Covid, but you still had to pay 
even if they were closed because well, they have to pay their 
workers too, and people were sick, and you understand that.
    One month I think Braxton went to childcare two days out of 
the whole month because of Covid closures, and sickness, and 
weather, but I still paid my $1,700 that month, but I took care 
of him, right? I wasn't paid, and there wasn't a way to get 
that money back or anything else, and so, I also made a lot of 
hard decisions of being able to get him into quality childcare.
    I paid a lot of money for him to go to those programs. He 
did do a Pre-K Counts program one year, and it was really, 
really fantastic for him, but he was trending higher than what 
his classmates were, and they'd even said like, you need to get 
him into another program. Intellectually, he's just so 
advanced. If you want him to not be another statistic, if you 
want him to have that growth and keep it catapulting, you need 
to find another option for him, and so, made the really hard 
decision of, okay, well I'm going to enroll him in this really 
great preschool program, and that's when I had started my 
business. I was a small business coach, owned an own business, 
was a DEI consultant, and then also doing social media.
    I was a contract worker, and at any time, I had six or 
seven contracts going on at one time. It's exhausting, right? 
Like, he would go to sleep and then you're still working, but 
it was the only way that I could financially afford to provide 
him the care that he needed.
    In kindergarten, that was great, right? You're thinking, 
yes, we're out of childcare. I don't have to pay this amount of 
money every month, and then, you realize that, well, school 
drop off is at 8:40. Work starts at 8:30, so there's already an 
issue. Pickup is at 3:40, my workday goes five, so there's 
another issue. Even if you took the bus home, it still drops at 
my house at 4:15.
    We're still looking at a gap of several hours of traffic 
and commuting, and so, afterschool programs were available and 
it was really great, but it was not affordable for us, and it 
also was a lot of tossing back and forth of him and 
overstimulation by the end of the day. A child on the spectrum 
sometimes needs routine and quiet, and he excels best with 
that, and so, it got to the point where I was coming home and 
having to undo and regulate him because he was dysregulated for 
so many hours, and then, also still having to work in the 
evenings to match my hours that got missed because I was taking 
him to and from work.
    I'm appreciative of an employer that allows me that 
flexibility because I know that that's not always the case, but 
when it rains or it snows, and there's school cancellation, or 
we have off because it's prom--not quite sure why first graders 
need offer prom--but school board did not feel like that was 
viable answer when I asked.
    You work from home and luckily, I have that opportunity as 
well, but I do economic development. I have to meet with 
businesses, and people, and go to meetings, and so, I'm missing 
a lot of the big conversations because I can't be there, but 
also, I'm just really tired. There's some days I don't want to 
people. I'm sure you've had that right after a long day of 
hearings.
    It feels like there's a constant chase happening and it's a 
worry. I probably could be making more money. There's a lot of 
jobs that I could apply for, but that would mean that I would 
be bequeath to them 24 hours a day, and I'm already struggling 
with the gaps that I have, so I can't do that, so there's a 
real detriment for me for career advancement now and in at 
least the next 10 years.
    The Chairman. Delilah, how about in your circumstance, 
either making a--because of caregiving responsibilities, making 
either a career choice or even just an employment choice?
    Ms. Picart. I have an agent and the agent sends me 
auditions, or information from clients who are interested in 
booking me either for commercials, or TV spots, and stuff like 
that. Most recently, I had to turn down being a spokesperson 
for an American college, which would've given me a nice five 
figure drop because I did not have coverage. I would've had to 
travel over there. It was in Bucks County. I would've had to 
travel, drive over, overnight it, spend a day, and then drive 
back. Or another night and come back. I had to turn that down. 
Things like that.
    Thankfully, my agent says, ``Okay. Here's the audition and 
here's when it's filming. Here's when you would need to be 
available.'' Unfortunately, lately, I have not been available 
for those times. If they say, ``Hey, the week of August 5th,'' 
I think, ``No, I can't.'' My mother's companions are away and 
rightfully so. They should have time to be away. My brother's 
companion is having health issues, so he's unavailable.
    There was a brief period of time where my fiance' was a way 
to take care of his own daughter who was recovering from a 
surgery, so I had to turn it down. I've had to turn down a 
number of jobs in this past year that would've easily given me 
an income of about $30,000, which is useful because I do have 
my own bills, and I also supplement that to my mother's bills, 
and the care for her and my brother.
    If Pennsylvania could provide a supplemental income to 
caregivers--it was so cool during the pandemic, how the 
President at the time wrote those checks to all of us. Right? 
It was helpful for me at that time. I would think caregivers, 
especially the ones and those receiving care at this table, to 
be able to look at their caregiver and say, ``Wow, look, here's 
$1,000 for the work that you did this week, just this week.'' 
Isn't it great?
    We could X, Y, Z. We could get a new chair or supplement 
for Heather. We could provide you, Delilah, with unlimited 
diapers--man, I go through so many diapers for both my mother 
and my brother. You know, we could provide occupational therapy 
for Braxton, you know, so he can play, and Tori can relax. Wow, 
like, actually put your feet up. Isn't that a daydream that we 
all have?
    It's not a handout. It would not be a handout because what 
I do, and what Tori, does and what Linda does, and what 
Heather's people do, and what Tara does, it is work. I did not 
go to school for it. I did not sign up to be a caregiver. I'm 
not licensed, but you know what? I'm an expert in taking care 
of my brother and my mother.
    I could probably help out with Tori because I understand 
what it's like to have a boy with autism, and Linda, I could 
probably do something with your grandson, because I'm familiar 
with that community, but I can't call myself an expert to them. 
I could only call myself an expert to Eric and Vivian.
    The Chairman. Thank you for reminding us about the impact 
on the decisions a caregiver has to make about----
    Ms. Picart. Excuse me, Senator, may----
    The Chairman. Yes, sure.
    Ms. Picart [continuing]. I add one more thing? It is so 
important that the language includes siblings. There are a 
number of sibling advocates who are now sibling advocates and 
caregivers, and if you look at the language, it says ``mother, 
father, relative caregiver.'' I've seen this at Rite Aid. I've 
seen this at Best Buddies, and I've been the longest 
relationship that my brother has in his entire life, and I will 
continue to be until either I pass or he passes. Yet, there is 
no literature anywhere that verbalizes and acknowledges the 
work that a sibling does as a caregiver. I just needed to add 
that.
    The Chairman. Good point. Tara, I wanted to ask you a 
question about the financial needs of American families in 
terms of these caregiving costs that we've heard we've heard, I 
should say several people have made a reference to.
    We know that childcare is a huge expense for families 
sometimes taking up. We've seen all kinds of data on this. 
Twenty percent, I guess, in some states, higher among low-
income families. We also know that caregiving for an aging 
parent can result in a significant loss of family income, 
especially for women, as you and others have pointed out. That 
the loss of work has an impact, as we just heard.
    I spoke to, not too long ago, a woman from Scranton who 
left her job that paid $80,000 a year, and took a more flexible 
job at a hardware store that paid $28,000 so that she could 
care for her mother. From your perspective, what are the most 
important policies we should have in place to support families 
who must care for their loved one and ensure that they're not 
forced into poverty?
    Ms. McGuinness. There's no such thing as unpaid care, so 
people provide it.
    The Chairman. Yes.
    Ms. McGuinness. Just to kind of go through the list of 
policies, we've heard a bunch of them around the table. 
Compensate caregivers, unpaid caregivers. There
    are mechanisms, and we know the U.S. Senate can do this 
because it's been done at least once, and you have a bill to 
take this further, but in 2021, Congress passed the American 
Rescue Plan and raised the wages of millions of homecare 
workers in all 50 states in a temporary way around Covid. Was 
it enough? Absolutely not, but was it done, and so, it could be 
done more? Absolutely. Similarly, in the same, you know, rescue 
plan, the child tax credit was expanded vastly. This cut 
poverty in half in a single year.
    The evidence is fantastic. I know you know this. We stopped 
doing it. It made a profound difference. A lot of that covered 
the gap for childcare, you know, caregiver tax credits as well, 
and you know, there is both a financial investment across the 
board, childcare, paid family medical leave that's up here in 
Pennsylvania that we came very close at the federal level. We 
could come back to that.
    I want to say a word, though. It is both about making 
financial investments in early, middle of life, and long-term 
care at a federal level. It also means we have to make these 
things work. I think you heard, you know, the ability to have 
medical records from 30 years ago transfer. You know, the 
simple things like an application process.
    Many, many people miss out on their tax credits, their 
earned income tax credits. Twenty percent of people leave it on 
the table because if you don't make enough money to pay taxes, 
you don't have to pay taxes. Why would you have to pay taxes in 
order to get your tax credit? And that is measurable. Cash for 
households that has a two-generation impact.
    This is a kind of set laundry list. Early education, long-
term care, paid family medical leave, and being in a feedback 
loop where these policies really work. Where the call times, 
the applications, aren't impossible to read, so it's both 
investing the funds and making them usable.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Heather, I wanted to move to a 
question for you. You discussed reliance on paid caregivers as 
well as the care provided by your family. As you noted in your 
testimony, your parents are aging, and at some point in time, 
they'll no longer be able to provide some of your basic needs.
    You say in your testimony, ``worry every single day about 
my future, what my future could look like.'' And you're 
concerned that you might have to move to an assisted living 
facility or other type of more institutional setting. What do 
you need to ensure that you don't lose, and as you say, lose 
what you made reference to, which is, and I'm quoting, ``a full 
and vibrant life.''
    Ms. Tomko. I think I might sound like a bit of a broken 
record here, but the most important thing for me to keep my 
life and for me to continue to live as full a life as I have 
now is ensuring that paid caregivers are available and they are 
compensated well enough that they can consider it a career.
    You know, as I mentioned, my care is not challenging, 
necessarily, but it is detailed. The small details matter into 
just making me comfortable going through about my day, and so, 
if I have to teach the details of my care to a new caregiver 
every day or every week because of that 60-plus percent 
turnover that you mentioned, I would be physically in danger of 
being injured from someone who doesn't understand my personal 
care needs, and emotionally and mentally worn down from having 
to go through the same thing day, after day, after day, trying 
to help someone understand.
    If caregivers were more stable, if they were paid to 
consider this a stable career, I would be able to have a 
rotating schedule of maybe five caregivers who are able to grow 
with me, learn with me, understand my care, and have that 
relationship that works for both of us, because right now, like 
so many of you already mentioned, the real experts of my care 
right now are my parents, and that is not feasible long-term, 
nor should it be. You know, I am 35. I would love to be able to 
live on my own in the community. I lived in the dorms at 
college, and loved it and thrived, but I can't live on my own 
right now knowing that I might have to call my parents at 11:00 
p.m., and saying, ``Hey, I'm so sorry. A caregiver called off, 
and we tried everyone we could, and no one is available.''
    My life is vibrant now, but could be even fuller, but it 
feels like I can't wish bigger than what I have right now 
because it feels like such an impossible ask, and making myself 
smaller to be content with what I have now, and I love my 
parents, and I'm so grateful for the care that they do offer 
me, but I shouldn't have to be relying on them, and without 
compensating caregivers for the value of the work that they do, 
that will never be possible for me. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Well, and your independence is important to 
you like it is for everybody else, right? I know we're getting 
close on time. I wanted to ask one more question to the whole 
panel. This'll be what you might call the lightning round, in 
the sense that, I hope, if you can, if you'd be willing, and 
some of the other answers each of you gave, made reference to 
kind of an action item list.
    I think as a conclusion so that we can be reminded of what 
our, my responsibility is, as well as any elected official at 
any level of government--I'm not going to call out other levels 
of government. I'm a federal official, so I'll put the burden 
on the federal government for today, but we all play a role in 
no matter what level of government, but if you could just 
outline what you hope the U.S. Congress, the House and the 
Senate, and the next administration would do to provide the 
kind of policy agenda that would address some of the most 
urgent needs, and maybe we'll start with Linda over here.
    Ms. Orndoff. Well, I'd like them to just help us get the 
resources we need to make homecare a viable occupation. I mean, 
it is currently is with the low wages, no benefits, you know, 
no retirement, or anything. People can't afford to do this type 
of work, you know, when they can go to, say, a Target or 
Sheetz, and make more money.
    The Chairman. Yes.
    Ms. Orndoff. Then they can be in a home healthcare worker 
if we had the proper resources and we could make this a viable 
occupation. That we would have backup when we need it like when 
I got sick with the Covid or sick with, you know, Lyme disease. 
I wouldn't have to worry that there's no one there to take care 
of them, to feed them, or cleanup, or anything like that, or 
get them to appointments and things. Basically, that's it. I 
mean, we need resources to make it a legitimate occupation.
    The Chairman. Linda, thank you. Tori?
    Ms. Snyder. I think it's important for policymakers and 
lawmakers to understand that they need to put their differences 
aside. This isn't a Democrat thing. This isn't Republican 
thing. This is about humanity and people, and I'm tired of name 
crawling at a level of--just it seems that like our children on 
the playground know rules better than the many policymakers do.
    I think, putting ego aside and thinking; what do we need to 
do to be able to provide quality of life and quality of care 
for Americans? I think that you are seeing the detriments of 
health, the social detriments that are happening to us, this 
weight that is hitting us of just all of the worries that we 
face leads to healthcare issues, which is a burden onto our 
system, but also, the mental health issues, which is another 
burden to society, and to the people, and to our systems.
    I think the paid leave for all, the child tax credits, the 
elder care, the care ability and services, and access to 
affordable healthcare. These basic rights is why we elect our 
officials, and I think that they need to remember that that's 
what they're doing at the end of the day for us.
    The Chairman. Tori, thank you. Delilah?
    Ms. Picart. Recognition to caregivers, just like you would 
recognize police, firemen, and EMS. Letting them have some sort 
of license so we have that recognition. Providing free mental 
health care to caregivers. I'm fortunate, like I said, I do 
have a therapist, but sometimes talking to her twice a month is 
not enough for me, and definitely wages. Living wages, or for 
some of us, supplemental income so I can comfortably not have 
to, you know, take from Peter to pay Paul. I can pay my bills 
and take care of my family. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Thank you. Everybody's doing their--making 
their lists very quickly, and I know, Tara, you had provided a 
list earlier. Anything you want to add to what you said earlier 
or anything you want amplify?
    Ms. McGuinness. To your colleagues, listen to families and 
keep them in the loop as you design policies as you're doing 
today. That means building solutions are not about one policy. 
The same family is doing elder care and early care, and this 
will take investment, real dollars that we need to spend across 
the life spectrum, and the wages. We will not get quality care 
until we have quality wages, and $13.42 cents is not 
acceptable.
    The Chairman. Yes. I mentioned--make one quick commercial 
here for the question of revenues. You know, we often hear in 
Washington, oh, well these are great things to talk about, but 
there's no revenue, right? There's just no way to do it.
    A big part of the reason why there hasn't been the revenue 
is because we've made choices now for 40 years. When I say we, 
I mean the Congress, over the last 40 years to have a tax code 
which is rigged for the top, and that's where the revenue is, 
right? When you do that decade after decade, it constrains the 
revenue.
    The good news here is we got a big opportunity in 2025. No 
matter what the outcome of this year's election, there is going 
to be a big tax moment. The biggest tax bill in probably 25 
years, if not longer, and that is the moment where we're going 
to make some fundamental choices about whether or not we're 
going to commit revenue for caregivers, for families, for those 
who need a break and need help, or whether we're just going to 
do the same old thing, which is the very--we get much, much 
wealthier, and big companies get these huge, and I would argue 
obscene, and I use that word purposefully, obscene tax breaks.
    There's not a big mystery here. There is revenue. If you 
align the needs that families have with the values that should 
emanate from that with your tax choices, so really going to 
make the right choices in 2025 or not, and if we make the wrong 
choices, it's not going to be another chance in 2026 or 1927, 
and go forward a lot of years. Got to win that tax fight in 
2025. It is a big, big moment for all these issues we talk 
about, and I hope people bear that in mind when they're making 
a voting decision.
    Finally, Heather, we'll end with whatever you'd want to say 
about policy.
    Ms. Tomko. Sure. I think coming along with what you just 
said, what I would really like people to remember is that my 
life as a disabled person has value. The lives of the people 
who care for me, those lives have value, and it's really 
important that we do put money behind policies that add to the 
value of those lives, and policies that see those lives as 
having value, and for us is just to live lives that other 
people already take for granted and without paying money, find 
policies that support the direct care of workers, and policies 
that support increased wages for caregivers, there's no way for 
me to believe that people see the value in my life. Thank you.
    The Chairman. Heather, thanks so much.
    I want to thank Heather. I want to thank Tara, Delilah, and 
Tori, and Linda for their testimony and the answers to 
questions that they gave, but most especially, for sharing 
their own experiences, the struggles of their own lives, and 
that of their families, and of people that they interact with.
    We've heard about so many challenges faced by caregivers 
and those who need care. Each of our witnesses who told a story 
about their own caregiving lives and their own stories have 
overcome so much in their lives in ways that I can't even 
imagine. I've never had to overcome the challenges that I've 
heard articulated today.
    To use a line that my father used many, many years ago, so 
many stories that we've heard here today and the struggles in 
their lives, the stresses in their lives, the challenges they 
face each and every day, not intermittently, but each and every 
day, could be could be encapsulated by saying that they have 
led, ``quietly, triumphant lives.''
    They've already had to overcome so much, and to triumph 
over those challenges, and stresses, and horrific 
circumstances. We're just grateful that they're willing to 
share. I think in a word, it's a chronicle of sacrifices that 
they've made sacrifices to care for their loved ones, including 
leaving their jobs to become full-time caregivers, starting 
their own businesses so they have adequate flexibility to 
accommodate their caregiving schedules, and moving family 
members closer in order to provide day-to-day care.
    These efforts often go without recognition. They are in a 
word, unheralded, and many caregivers are ``on the clock'' all 
the time. Whether it's to help with finding high quality and 
affordable childcare, or caring for an aging family member or a 
relative with a disability, or sometimes all of the above. All 
at once. As Linda said, perfectly, ``We can't take care of them 
if we can't take care of ourselves.''
    So, we're going to continue the efforts that I've 
undertaken and others have undertaken to increase funding for 
programs like Medicaid, home and community-based services, to 
ensure that no one has to wait for the care that they need.
    I'm also working to permanently expand both the child tax 
credit and the child and dependent care tax credit, two 
separate tax credits. One that's more broader in its impact 
because it's a tax credit for families raising children, and 
that family decides what they spend it for, mostly, in most 
instances, food, but food, or rent, or childcare.
    Then, there's a separate and distinct tax credit, the child 
and dependent care credit. That's a tax credit just for 
caregiving or for childcare. We know that caregiving touches 
all of us, and the federal government, as I've said now, 
multiple times, must do more. Must do more to support those who 
need care and those who are our caregivers.
    And when I say must do more, it starts with the tax code. 
It starts with appropriations. It starts with making these 
issues a priority, not an afterthought, not with what extra 
money's left over when you gave all away the store to the top, 
but making it a priority when the tax debate starts, and making 
sure we win those tax and revenue battles. I want to thank all 
of our witnesses, again, for contributing their time and 
sharing their experiences.
    The hearing record will remain open for seven days or until 
next Wednesday, August the 14th. Thanks everyone for 
participating. This hearing is adjourned.
    [Whereupon, at 11:36 a.m., the hearing was adjourned.]  
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                      Prepared Witness Statements

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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Testimony

                             Heather Tomko

    Good morning, Chairman Casey. Thank you so much for 
allowing me to share my testimony today. My name is Heather 
Tomko - I'm a 35-year-old woman and a lifelong Pittsburgher, a 
graduate of both Carnegie Mellon University and the University 
of Pittsburgh, and a current employee of Pitt as well. I'm also 
disabled - I have a progressive, genetic neuromuscular disease 
called Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA). I've never been able to 
walk, and I've used a wheelchair since I was about two years 
old.
    Growing up with a disability like SMA means that my life 
looks a bit different than most people's. I need help doing 
most of the things people tend to take for granted - getting in 
and out of bed, using the bathroom, taking a shower, getting 
dressed, and even brushing my hair. That help has come in 
various forms over the years. Up until college, my parents were 
my sole caregivers, and I relied completely on them. When I was 
accepted to Carnegie Mellon and decided to live in the dorms on 
campus, my family and I had to figure out how I would get the 
help I need while living away from home, and that was my first 
experience with paid personal care attendants (PCAs). Since 
graduating from college, I've moved back home with my parents 
and my sister, who shares my disability, and have a mix of 
unpaid care from my parents and paid care through PCAs.
    I learned quickly while at college how much of an 
adjustment relying on PCAs was going to be for me. Not only in 
terms of having to explain and be comfortable with strangers 
doing my care (though that was also new to me), but in terms of 
the management of my PCAs schedules. I got my PCAs through an 
agency, who coordinated the hiring and scheduling of my PCAs to 
fill the hours I'd been allotted through my Medicaid waiver.
    I realized that while the agency was in charge of my 
schedule, I was ultimately responsible. If a PCA called off for 
one of my shifts, which happened not infrequently, I was the 
one without care if the agency couldn't find a replacement in 
time. I was the one making frantic phone calls to the agency 
every few hours checking in with them, and I was the one who 
had to call my parents and ask my mom to spend the night with 
me in the dorm when the agency wasn't able to find anyone in 
time. All while also trying to adjust to college life, make new 
friends, finish my homework assignments on time, and study for 
exams. Nothing adds to your stress level quite like knowing you 
have a midterm the next day, and not being sure if you will 
have a way to get out of bed beforehand to actually go take the 
exam.
    This lack of stability with PCAs during my time at Carnegie 
Mellon was a large part of my decision to move back home after 
college. At least at home, I would have my parents as backups 
already in the same place, and I wouldn't need to make any 
11:00 p.m. phone calls after another last-minute call off. Over 
the years, I have cobbled together a patchwork of care, luckily 
finding a handful of consistent PCAs (though never enough to 
actually fill all the hours allotted to me) with my parents 
filling in the rest of the gaps.
    Finding consistent care is an important distinction, and a 
detail that is often overlooked. My care, while not overly 
difficult, does require explanation, and training, and a little 
bit of getting used to. When someone is putting me into my 
wheelchair where I'll spend the next five hours in the same 
position, it's important that I'm comfortable and supported 
correctly while I'm there, and if I have a revolving door of 
PCAs, rather than a handful of consistent people, it becomes 
near impossible for me to have my needs actually met properly, 
because by the time a PCA and I have settled into a comfortable 
routine, they're already moving on.
    While I have a patchwork system that is manageable for now, 
I worry every single day about what my future could look like. 
I'm 35 right now, and my parents are in their 60s. I'm 
incredibly grateful that they're still able to lift me, and to 
help me with the more physical aspects of my care, but I know 
that this won't be the case forever - they're aging, and at 
some point in the not-so-distant future, they're not going to 
be able to care for me (and my sister) like they do now, and 
I'm terrified what that will mean for me. If I can't find 
consistent care, my only option would be to move into an 
assisted living facility, and leave my full and vibrant life 
behind.
    While these are only my own personal experiences, I also 
see them mirrored every day in my professional life. I'm the 
Outreach Coordinator at the University of Pittsburgh's National 
Rehabilitation Research and Training Center on Family Support. 
In this role, I serve as the liaison between academia and the 
larger family caregiving community. In my interactions with 
both caregivers and people receiving care, I found that the 
most common comments and questions I got were about how they, 
as family caregivers, were shouldering the majority of care for 
their loved ones, and how they were struggling to find and keep 
PCAs. While we often look at "paid caregivers" and "unpaid 
caregivers" as two different silos, both actually exist 
intersectionally along the care continuum. Many family 
caregivers are looking for PCAs for their loved ones as well - 
not necessarily to replace their unpaid care, but to supplement 
it - to allow family caregivers the time and space to care for 
themselves, as well.
    While this has been a challenge for years, I've found that 
it's gotten exponentially worse following the pandemic - it's 
gotten to a crisis level that I've never experienced before, 
and I know that the problem is multifaceted, but it's clear 
that one major issue is the stagnant wages for PCAs. I've 
mentioned how pivotal getting this care is to me and my life - 
without it, I could quite literally be stuck in bed all day - 
but the wages PCAs receive do not reflect how critical their 
services are. Someone can actually make more and have a higher 
chance of growth and promotion by working at Target than they 
can by working as a PCA. We've seen companies raising their 
wages to entice people back into the workforce following the 
pandemic, but I haven't seen that happening for PCAs. So, I'm 
seeing what has been a long-standing issue now brewing into a 
perfect storm of losses in the workforce with stagnant, non-
competitive wages, with no changes in sight.
    Increasing wages to a competitive level for PCAs is long 
overdue. I urge you to act on this before it's too late for me 
and the thousands of others who rely on care to live our daily 
lives. Thank you so much for allowing me the chance to speak 
with you today, and to share my experiences and submit my 
testimony.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Testimony

                         Tara Dawson McGuinness

    "The [youngest grandson] is autistic, you know what I'm 
saying. I can't take him everywhere `cause I have to hold his 
hand 24/7. Even walking down the street, I can't release his 
hand because he will wander off."

    These are the words of Walter, a grandfather and sole 
caretaker of two children in Philadelphia, whose perspective I 
am honored to lift up at this hearing.
    My name is Tara McGuinness. I am the Executive Director of 
the New Practice Lab, a team based at New America, focused on 
delivering better policy and public services for families with 
young children. I am grateful to join you to talk about the 
importance of focusing on the care needs of families.
    My testimony today relies on both data gathered by our team 
and the experience and expertise of people like Walter - 
families who are part of our Thriving Families Project\1\, an 
ongoing effort in multiple states, including Pennsylvania, to 
listen to families and build a holistic picture of what enables 
them, in their own words, to thrive.
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    \1\ New Practice Lab, New America, "Co-Designing a Thriving Family 
Life", https://www.newamerica.org/new-practice-lab/blog/co-designing-a-
thriving-family-life/ "To date, we have conducted 4 co-design workshops 
with 35 people from families with a wide variety of backgrounds and 
experiences, including families from a variety of racial and ethnic 
backgrounds, those that live in rural, urban, and suburban communities, 
and have lived experience with a broad swath of social welfare programs 
across the, and local levels."
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    At the New Practice Lab, we help policy makers build new 
policies in a closer feedback loop with families - exactly what 
we are doing today. We are so glad to be a part of this 
important field hearing.
    Unfortunately, at a policy level, too often we don't center 
on the family experience. We often approach phases of life as 
separate challenges: early childhood education and care, paid 
family and medical leave, families members that are aging or 
have a disability.
    However, care needs - for children, for parents, a sibling 
with a disability - often show up all at once for a family. If 
we are raising young children, we might also be caregiving for 
our parents. If we are grandparents, we might be unexpectedly 
raising our grandchildren.
    In Pennsylvania, more than 76,000 grandparents live with 
grandchildren for whom they are responsible, and 47% of those 
grandparents are in the labor force.\2\ At the other end of the 
age spectrum, millions of youth and young adults provide care 
for family members.\3\ Other families with loved ones with 
disabilities have different care needs.
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    \2\ U.S. Census Bureau. "Selected Social Characteristics in the 
United States." American Community Survey, ACS five-Year Estimates Data 
Profiles, Table DP02, 2022, https://data.census.gov/table/
ACSDP5Y2022.DP02?g=040XX00US42
    \3\ Armstrong-Carter et al. "The United States should recognize and 
support caregiving youth", Social Policy Report, https://
srcd.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sop2.14. Accessed July 31, 
2024
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    I know this to be true. Like 47% of Americans in their 40-
50s, I have young kids and aging parents.\4\ Like more than 20 
million American families, mine cares for someone with 
disabilities.\5\
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    \4\ Kim Parker and Eileen Patten, "The Sandwich Generation Rising 
Financial Burdens for Middle-Aged Americans", Pew Research Center, 
www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2013/01/30/the-sandwich-generation/. 
Accessed August 1, 2024.
    \5\ In 2019, out of 79.6 million family households in the United 
States, 25.7% of them had at least one family member with disability. 
25.7% of 79.6 million is around 20 million family households. Natalie 
A. E. Young and Katrina Crankshaw, U.S. Census Bureau, Social, 
Economic, and Housing Statistics Division Demographic Directorate, "The 
Demographics of Disability in the Family: Prevalence, Characteristics, 
and Implications for Financial Well-Being", https://www.census.gov/
library/working-papers/2023/demo/SEHSD-WP2023-22.html. Accessed August 
1, 2024
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    Families cycle in and out of needing care. One in six non-
caregivers expects to become a caregiver within two years.\6\
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    \6\ U.S. Center for Disease and Prevention, "Caregiving", https://
www.cdc.gov/aging/data/infographic/2018/aggregated-caregiving.html. 
Accessed August 1, 2024

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It is too hard to raise a family and find care for loved ones

    Today, in the United States we make it way too hard\7\ to 
start and raise a family. Household costs go up precipitously 
with the birth or adoption of a child, right at the same time 
that wages typically go down.
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    \7\ Robertson et al., "Raising Young Kids in America Has Become 
Hell, and the Government Should Finally Acknowledge That', New 
Republic, newrepublic.com/article/167369/young-children-parents-
seniors-government-programs. Accessed August 1, 2024
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    Every year, about 130,000 babies are born in Pennsylvania. 
More than 2,000 children are adopted.\8\
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    \8\ U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Administration 
for Children and Families,Administration on Children, Youth and 
Families, Children's Bureau. "The AFCARS Report: Pennsylvania" 
Estimates as of May 9, 2023. Accessed on July 31, 2024https://
www.acf.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cb/afcars-tar-pa-2022.pdf 

and March of Dimes PERISTATS, "Births", Data for Pennsylvania,https://
www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/
data?reg=42&top=2&stop=10&lev=1&slev=4&obj=3&sreg=42. AccessedAugust 1, 
2024.
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    Pennsylvania, like most states, has no state paid family 
and medical leave program. When a new baby is born, parents are 
on their own to figure out how to manage infant care and earn a 
living.
    Nationally, just 27% of workers have paid family leave 
through their jobs to care for a new child or a seriously ill 
loved one, and only 40% have personal medical leave through an 
employers' short-term disability insurance policy, including 
for pregnancy-related health and recovery issues.\9\ Access 
varies dramatically by industry, occupation, and wage level, 
among other factors, leading to dramatic disparities that place 
the greatest burdens and risks on workers and families with 
fewer resources.\10\ The majority (61%) of private sector 
workers (making less than $14/hour) do not have paid sick time 
for short-term illness related absences.
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    \9\ 9Vicki Shabo, "A Nation of Paid Family Leave Have- and Have-
Nots Characterizes the United States in 2023", New America, https://
www.newamerica.org/better-life-lab/blog/bls-family-leave-2023/ Accessed 
August 1, 2024
    \10\ 10Vicki Shabo and Hannah Friedman, "Health, Work, and Care in 
Rural America", New America, https://www.newamerica.org/better-life-
lab/reports/health-work-and-care-rural-america/. Accessed August 1, 
2024
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    Having a child is just the beginning. Being able to make a 
living and raise kids gets even more challenging as school in 
most communities doesn't start until kids are five and parents 
need childcare to work. In Pennsylvania, there are nearly 
796,000 working parents with children ages birth to five.\11\ 
The majority of them need childcare.
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    \11\ Sandra Bishop and Steve Doster, "$6.65 Billion: The Growing, 
Annual Cost of Pennsylvania's Child Care Crisis", Council for a Strong 
America,https://strongnation.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/1608/2735f9c4-
fa3c-4e39-8516-ed2de992b084.pdf?167760174
0&inline;%20filename=%22$6.65%20Billion:%20The%20Growing,%20Annual%20Cos
t
%20of%20Pennsylvania%E
2%80%99s%20Child%20Care%20Crisis.pdf%22. Accessed August 1, 2024
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    That care comes at a steep cost. In 2023, the average 
Pennsylvania family paid about $14,000 for one year of center-
based child care - per child.\12\ That's 11.5% percent of the 
median family income. There is wide geographic variation, with 
the annual cost of center-based care ranging from around $8,000 
in some counties to upwards of $18,000 in others.\13\
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    \12\ Child Care Awarer of America, "Childcare Affordability in 
Pennsylvania",https://info.childcareaware.org/hubfs/
2023%20Price%20Fact%20Sheet/Pennsylvania%202023--Price%20of%20Care.pdf. 
Accessed August 1, 2024
    \13\ U.S. Department of Labor, "Childcare Prices as a Share of 
Median Family Income by Age of Children and Care Setting", National 
Database of Childcare Prices,https://www.dol.gov/agencies/wb/topics/
childcare/median-family-income-by-age-care-setting. The New Practice 
Lab team has organized this information into an accessible spreadsheet 
here:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iAsaBrWeLJ3X8mW--t2--
otJozvdoy3kC9/
edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113629679965876143693&rtpof=true&sd=true
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      -In Philadelphia and Cumberland counties it is on average 
$14,078 for just one year of care.
      -In Dauphin County, Allegheny County, Mercer County and 
Washington counties it is closer to $13,772.
    Affordability is only one piece of the equation though. 
Child care staffing shortages mean there simply are not enough 
providers to meet the needs of families seeking care. In a 
recent survey, Pennsylvania providers responded that being 
fully staffed would allow them to care for about 16,500 more 
children.\14\
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    \14\ Start Strong PA, "Pennsylvania's Child Care Crisis September 
2023 Survey Results", https://static1.squarespace.com/static/
5c2e545d0dbda3cf1389658c/t/661ff30ee875e904e6a8a384/1713369870722/SSPA-
Pennsylvania-Fact-Sheet.pdf. Accessed August 1, 2024
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    The cost of living for families with young children is 
especially difficult, but meeting the care needs of a family 
isn't only a challenge for families with young kids. Whether 
because of a long term disability or a short-term medical need 
(like recovering from cancer treatment), families need 
flexibility, access to care, and support when they are 
providing care to loved ones. 14% of people in Pennsylvania 
have a cognitive, hearing, vision, or ambulatory disability, or 
one that makes self-care or independent living difficult.\15\
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    \15\ United for ALICE (Asset Limited, Income Constrained, 
Employed), "Financial hardship for people with disabilities: 
Pennsylvania", https://www.uwp.org/wp-content/uploads/ALICE-in-Focus-
Disabilities-Pennsylvania.pdf. Accessed August 1, 2024
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    Parents and primary caregivers are in a tight spot trying 
to put together a puzzle that balances affordability, 
accessibility, and quality - all while earning a living.

Caring for each other as we age

    Modern science has enabled us to live longer than at any 
point in history - shifting our need for care dramatically.
    Currently, Pennsylvania is home to 3.4 million older 
adults, the fifth highest total in the country.\16\ By 2030, 
one in four Pennsylvanians will be 65 or older. Most of these 
seniors prefer to remain in their homes and communities instead 
of living in an institution.\17\
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    \16\ Pennsylvania Department of Aging, "Aging Our Way, PA: A Plan 
for Lifelong Independence", https://www.aging.pa.gov/publications/
MasterPlan/Pages/default.aspx. Accessed August 1, 2024
    \17\ United Home Care Workers. "Where does the money go? Funding 
Accountability for Pennsylvania's For-Profit and Private Equity-Owned 
Home Care Agencies" https://uhwp.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/
REPORT%E2%80%94Where-Does-the-Money-Go-2023.04.05.pdf. Accessed August 
1, 2024
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    To meet this demand, Pennsylvania will need to recruit 
275,000 new home care workers in the next six years, but 
poverty wages for caregivers and challenging working conditions 
mean that today these roles have an annual rate of turnover of 
64%.\18\
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Work, the carers and the caring workforce

    Here in Pittsburgh, child care workers make an average of 
$13.42 per hour, which is about $28,000 per year.\19\ If they 
support a child, they would need to come up with almost $40,000 
more to have a modest living standard.\20\ Demand for child 
care workers exceeds the size of the existing workforce. The 
industry continues to struggle from the impacts of the 
pandemic. Jobs are available, but hiring and retaining folks is 
a particular challenge in the child care industry.\21\ A key 
driver of this scarcity - wages are far too low, and because 
this work force is largely women and largely women of color 
these wage inequities have rippling effects on our communities.
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    \19\ U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Occupational Employment and 
Wage Statistics for Pittsburgh, PA, May 2023. $13.42 per hour x 40 
hours per week X 52 weeks = $27,913.6 annual wage. https://www.bls.gov/
oes/2023/may/oes--38300.htm#39-0000. Accessed August 1, 2024
    \20\ Economic Policy Institute's Family Budget Calculator, January 
2024. Data are in 2023 dollars, https://www.epi.org/resources/budget/. 
Accessed August 1, 2024. For an adult to support a child with a modest 
living standard, a worker in the Pittsburgh metro area needs $67,418 
annually. The gap is $67,418 - $27,913.6 = $39,504.4
    \21\ The Center for American Progress, "The Child Care Sector Is 
Still Struggling To Hire Workers", https://www.americanprogress.org/
article/the-child-care-sector-is-still-struggling-to-hire-workers/. 
Accessed August 1, 2024
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    There are and there will need to be millions of care jobs, 
especially home care jobs, that pay living wages. Today there 
are 3.7 million home care workers, according to BLS data.\22\ 
In fact, home health and personal care aide is the most common 
job in the United States.\23\ Still, the need for home care 
outpaces the availability of people to provide that care. 
Employment of home health and personal care aides is projected 
to grow 22 percent from 2022 to 2032, much faster than the 
average for all occupations. About 684,600 openings for home 
health and personal care aides are projected each year, on 
average, over the decade.
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    \22\ U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, "Occupational Outlook 
Handbook: Home Health and Personal Care Aides", https://www.bls.gov/
ooh/healthcare/home-health-aides-and-personal-care-
aides.htm#::text=in%20May%202023. -
,Job%20Outlook,on%20average%2C%20over%20the%20decade. Accessed August 
1, 2024
    \23\ U.S Bureau of Labor Statistics, "Charts of the largest 
occupations in each area, May 2023", https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/
area--emp--chart/area--emp--chart.htm. Accessed August 1, 2024
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Policy hasn't kept up to meet the needs of our lives

    In just a few generations we moved from a typical family 
having one person at home caring for the children to most 
American kids being raised by two working parents, and more and 
more often those working parents are also providing some level 
of care for their own aging parents.
    Every year, unpaid family caregivers provide about 80% of 
care services to their communities - a $600 billion US dollars 
worth of contribution.\24\ Women are more than two times more 
likely to be giving this unpaid care. Inadequate child care 
options cost Pennsylvania $6.65 billion in lost earnings, 
productivity, and revenue.\25\ This is a structural economic 
issue, not just a personal one.
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    \24\ Reinhard et al., "Valuing the Invaluable 2023 Update: 
Strengthening Supports for Family Caregivers", AARP, https://
www.aarp.org/pri/topics/ltss/family-caregiving/valuing-the-invaluable-
2015-update/. Accessed August 1, 2024
    \25\ Sandra Bishop, and Steve Doster, "$6.65 Billion: The Growing, 
Annual Cost of Pennsylvania's Child Care Crisis", Council for a Strong 
America, 
https://strongnation.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/1608/2735f9c4-fa3c-
4e39-8516-
d2de992b084.pdf?1677601740&inline;%20filename=%22$6.65%20Billion:%20The%
20Growing,
%20Annual%20Cost%20of%20Pennsylvania%E2%80%99s%20Child%20Care%20Crisis.p
df%22. Accessed August 1, 2024
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    We have experienced dramatic shifts in how we live, and 
while we've made important advancements in our physical 
infrastructure to keep pace with our economy, we have not done 
the same for the care infrastructure that equally supports our 
families and our workers.

This isn't an impossible dream, we know what works

    Nearly all countries around the world, and even 13 states 
across America, have paid leave policies that support families. 
We have significant evidence demonstrating the positive impact 
these policies have across economic, health, and social 
outcomes.\26\ Making caregiving a legislative priority need not 
be partisan - 82% of voters support making it easier for people 
to care for their loved ones.\27\
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    \26\ Vicki Shabo, "Rural Pennsylvanians Must Travel Long Distances 
to Hospital-Based Health Care", New America,https://www.newamerica.org/
better-life-lab/blog/rural-pennsylvanians-must-travel-long-distances-
to-hospital-based-health-care/; Kathleen Romig and Kathleen Bryant, "A 
National Paid Leave Program Would Help Workers,Families", Center on 
Budget and Policy Priorities,https://www.cbpp.org/research/economy/a-
national-paid-leave-program-would-help-workers-families; Addati et al., 
"Care at work: Investing in care leave and services for a more gender 
equal world of work", International LabourOrganization,https://
www.ilo.org/publications/care-work-investing-care-leave-and-services-
more-gender-equal-world-work. Accessed August 1, 2024 Washington Center 
for Equitable Growth. "What does research say about care 
infrastructure?"https://equitablegrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/
041521-care-infrastructure-fs.pdf. Accessed August 1,2024
    \27\ Morning Consult on behalf of Pivotal Ventures and BPC Action, 
"Voter Sentiment on Caregiving in the U.S.", https://bpcaction.org/wp-
content/uploads/2024-Caregiving-Poll-Results.pdf. Accessed August 1, 
2024
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    Thich Nhat Hahn said, "Caring is the bridge that connects 
us to one another." Today, we are in deep need of more 
connection and policies that enable us to care more deeply for 
each other. This hearing is a step on the path for federal 
policies to anchor into the voices of what families are asking 
for: policies that support them through all the moments of 
their lives that require care.

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Attachment: Care Learnings from New Practice Lab Thriving 
Families Project (PA)

[GRAPHICS NOT AVAILABLE IN TIFF FORMAT]

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Testimony

                             Delilah Picart

    Good morning, Chairman Casey. My name is Delilah Picart. 
I'm from New York City, yet I've called Pittsburgh, PA my home 
for twenty years. My professional career as a working local 
actress has allowed me to appear in films and commercials, but 
currently I have a job I didn't apply for, and I can't quit. I 
am a caregiver to my brother and mother. I moved them here from 
East Harlem in April 2023 when it became glaringly apparent 
that Mom couldn't take care of herself or my brother anymore.
    My brother Eric has Fragile X Syndrome and Severe Autism. 
He is two years younger than me, and I always anticipated 
taking care of him. My mother Vivian has moderate dementia, and 
I didn't think I would be taking care of her. My father Enrique 
died in 2011 from complications of Alzheimer's disease. He was 
the parent I was most similar to, and the parent I loved most.
    I have a complicated relationship with my mother. She 
believed in tough love parenting, which I have now come to 
realize is entry-level emotional abuse and manipulation. From 
six years old to 12 years old, she would threaten to hit me, 
and often would chase me to my room with a shoe in her hand. 
She once poured a pitcher of ice water over my head. I was 
eight years old. When I was a teenager, I would ask her why 
Eric was different, why did he get special treatment. She 
mocked me. As I got older still, and with therapy, I realized I 
didn't like my mother as a person. She was jealous of me and 
petty. She would gossip. She would criticize me in a spiteful 
way. We are fundamentally different people. Once, I confronted 
her about chasing me and scaring me when I was a child. "You 
probably deserved it," was her retort. I have actively and 
consciously done all I can to parent my daughter with love and 
affection.
    I would go and visit my mother and brother at least three 
times a year. Never for more than five days. I couldn't stand 
her tv addiction, the way she ignored me for the sake of some 
predictable tv drama. She would answer the phone, "Not now, Dr. 
Phil is on," then hang up on me. I stopped sharing projects I 
was working on because I didn't want to hear her criticize and 
judge me.
    Before I moved my family here, I had received a phone call 
from my mother in July 2022. She said she was having a hard 
time. She could no longer do simple math. She wanted to get a 
Power of Attorney. I decided to visit my mother and brother 
once a month, for a weekend. Over the next four months, I saw 
my mother sit in her armchair and watch tv all day long. She 
would forget to take Eric to doctor appointments, neglect to 
trim his nails. Eric would search the kitchen for food, usually 
molded bread Mom had hidden from Eric. She no longer cooked; 
all meals were take-out. Her refrigerator was packed with 
containers of food, most of it weeks old. She had bags of 
liquified lettuce, molded vegetables, soft green potatoes, old 
bags of bacon, and numerous jars of parmesan cheese. She 
complained that her washing machine no longer functioned, she 
needed a new one. She had piles of clothes on the floor; she 
had forgotten if they were clean or dirty. Her pill box was 
mostly full, she had only taken her medication on Tuesday (it 
was Friday). She neglected to clean Eric's room. I found it 
dirty; Eric would purge on whatever food he found and then 
vomit. Since Mom stopped speaking to Eric, he wouldn't tell her 
he had made a mess. The four-story, single family brownstone I 
grew up in had become dark, foul-smelling, dusty, and loud. The 
volume on the television had the ladies from the View arguing 
and shouting. It hurt my ears. We signed a POA in New York in 
November 2022.
    By January of 2023, I began visiting twice a month. Mom was 
becoming aggressive. Eric had dark circles under his eyes. Each 
trip I would empty out the refrigerator of rotten food. The 
weekly meal service my fiance' Todd purchased for my family 
would go unopened and rot. She would sit in her chair and mock 
me. "Lilah thinks I have bad food!" she would proclaim to a 
visiting neighbor, then throw her head back and laugh. My anger 
would bubble. I bought fresh fruit and vegetables for my 
brother. I would prepare dinner in the kitchen and try to 
salvage a clean plastic container from the closet. Mom would 
eat a little. She didn't like the vegetarian meals I made. Eric 
would have seconds. I asked my family members to help pack her 
up to move, with a target date of August.
    I had access to Mom's checking account. One day when I was 
back home in Pittsburgh, I checked on the accounts, making sure 
certain bills were paid. There was a debt of $10,000. My 
stomach knotted. The phone conversation I had with my mother 
was frustrating and useless. She had no recollection of taking 
that money out, or where it was. I had visions of a stranger 
approaching my mother, forcing her to take that money out, or 
worse, someone mugging her. It was later revealed that she had 
withdrawn the money from her checking, and quickly deposited it 
into her Home Equity Loan, which I did not have access to. 
Within two weeks, I arranged for her and my brother to move out 
of the brownstone. That was April 2023.
    As a caregiver to two individuals with very specific 
different needs, I am perpetually and eternally exhausted. I am 
mentally, emotionally, physically, and psychologically tired. I 
don't have the luxury nor the monetary fluidity to take a 
break. I had no idea what I was getting myself into when I 
decided to bring them both here. Yet, I was the only one 
capable of making a radical change for the betterment of them 
both. The only one to recognize that my mother had (at the 
time) undiagnosed dementia, and that my brother was starving 
and underfed and miserable. Not the nosy neighbors nor her own 
brother who lived across the street.
    As their primary caregiver, I manage their daily care, 
which includes: pill management (distribution, refill, and pick 
up); meals (three times a day, seven days a week; five days a 
week I cook in my house and then pack it and take it over); 
laundry (once a week, but lately daily [I'll discuss this 
later]); garbage disposal; transportation (taking Viv to 
Vintage Senior Center five days a week); dressing (Viv often 
sleeps in her day clothes); coordination and scheduling of 
companions; cleaning the apartment (washing dishes, vacuuming, 
sweeping, bathrooms); grocery shopping as needed (toiletries, 
paper towels, bath tissue, etc.); scheduling doctors' 
appointments (quarterly); personal grooming appointments (bi-
monthly); bathing reminders.
    My family lives in a two-bedroom, two-bathroom apartment 
four blocks away from my house. It was decided very quickly 
that they could not move in with me and my fiance' Todd. Mom 
had difficulty going up and down stairs, and the idea of 
hearing the tv 20 hours a day; not an option. It was one of my 
first techniques of self-care: boundaries. Mom had a very hard 
time adjusting for the first six months. Almost every day, I 
would arrive in the apartment and find all the items from the 
kitchen or the linen closet on the dining room table. Sometimes 
there would be cardboard boxes in the living room. Many times, 
she would go on Eric's computer tablet and look up "Man with a 
Van Pittsberg (sic)". She was getting calls from neighbors 
asking her when she was coming back, or saying her phone number 
was disconnected. She accused me of hijacking her, of trying to 
kill her. She called me sneaky. Many times, she would call my 
cell repetitively, six or seven calls withing 10 minutes, 
yelling into the phone, usually after 10 p.m. I would often 
power my phone off by 8:30 p.m, another self-care boundary.
    I found a woman companion for Vivian. She spends time with 
her three days a week. I pay her out of pocket. I learned the 
term "masking"; a behavior that is practiced by a person with 
dementia when they are confused by a situation or what is being 
said to them. They can carry on whole conversations in vague 
terms because they are cued to react to certain words, tones, 
mannerisms, and expressions. Vivian gets along beautifully with 
her companion, and she is well liked at her senior center. I 
would get the angry Mom, belligerent Mom, mean Mom, usually 
after 2pm. With the supervision of her Pittsburgh doctor, I got 
my mother on atypical antipsychotics after she threw a computer 
tablet at me and missed. It has calmed her down, but it has 
also given her frequent urination. I threw away all her 
underwear and she now only wears pull up adult diapers. I say a 
little mantra before I see my mother now; Grace, Forgiveness, 
Patience, Acceptance, Compassion, or GFPAC. If I forget a word, 
I know that's the one I need to focus on with her.
    My brother was very happy with the move. He was getting 
three meals a day and healthy snacks. I introduced him to red 
peppers and avocado toast and lemonade. He no longer ate whole 
loaves of bread. He no longer slept in a bed of dried vomit. 
But I couldn't be with him all day long. Eric was receiving 
services in NYC, but he was ineligible in Pennsylvania until he 
had legal residency for six months. Even then, I had to show 
medical records from over 30 years ago describing and 
diagnosing his dual disability. By January, he had a very 
helpful case-worker. His Individualized Support Plan declared 
him an emergency case because he was living with his mother who 
was formally diagnosed with moderate dementia.
    In the interim, I found a young man to be his companion. 
Again, I paid out of pocket. They would drive around, listening 
to music, sometimes going to the museum. When I did have time, 
we would go to the movies, yet when I brought him home, Mom 
sometimes had soiled herself, forgetting to get up when she got 
the urge to use the bathroom. One time I entered the apartment 
and was met with the smell of something burning. I found two 
charred eggs in the kitchen trash bin. Mom was hungry, tried to 
make boiled eggs, forgot the pot on the burner, and had boiled 
the water to nothing, leaving the eggs to blacken. I removed 
the pot. Another time, she had made toast only to forget there 
was a burnt piece already in the slots. I removed the toaster.
    Eric and I had a routine. He would greet me in the living 
room of their sparse apartment. I would apply a nail lacquer to 
his toenails (he had an untreated nail fungus, something else 
our mother had neglected) he would wait until "Kelly and Mark" 
tv show, then he would put on his shoes and go downstairs and 
sit in the lobby. He would people watch most of the morning and 
some of the afternoon, until Mom would return from the senior 
center by 2pm. Then, he would wait for me in the lobby. In the 
Spring, he would be outside, in the green space or on the 
corner of the church across the street. One day in June, he was 
behaving in an aggressive manner, acting belligerent and 
obnoxious. I had never seen or heard Eric behave this way. He 
started to wander and refused to go into the apartment. This 
became a weekly behavior. I consulted his doctor and placed him 
on the same atypical antipsychotic medication that Vivian is 
on. His behavior is mostly back to normal. As of July 3rd, he 
now arrives on my porch by 5am. He is wet, because he 
unfortunately has soiled himself (thus, the daily laundry). 
After he has changed into clean clothes (I have a few items 
because of his frequency) we have tea and coffee in my 
backyard. We make up stories about the birds. Sometimes, we 
walk my dog, Mango, and count the rabbits. I love my brother 
immensely.
    Eric's sudden unpredictable behavior has made Todd take 
lead and contact his supports coordinator/case worker. The 
emphasis of emergency was mentioned again. We finally toured a 
few respite places for Eric, with the hope of making it 
residential. Eric is looking forward to the change.
    When I am asked, "How are you?" I give the rote, safe, 
bland reply, "I'm fine, everything is good." With my close 
friends and few family members, I'm honest. I'm sad or angry, 
or good, in this moment. I'm tissue paper thin. I'm spent. I'm 
struggling. I just can't today. I wish it would end. I need a 
change. I'm fortunate; I have a therapist, a support group, a 
weekly session with a trainer at a gym. Todd takes meals over, 
my college bound daughter pitches in as asked. I've had a very 
rich full life with highlights and low points. I watched the 
Towers fall from two miles away, I've had four car accidents, 
I've had a stalker terrorize me, and I've had my father go 
missing for 34 days. This is the most challenging event I've 
ever experienced.
    In an ideal world, caregivers would for receive a public 
recognition, just like military personnel or EMT. A caregiver 
would be easily identified on a license. A hotline would be 
available to answer questions and provide urgent support (i.e., 
cleaning service, laundry service, meal delivery, 
companionship). A caregiver would be granted a parking pass to 
go into the disabled parking spots at the grocery store, 
hospitals, etc. State programs could provide college credit to 
graduate students in the social services department, and have 
said students provide handson companion care to people with 
intellectual /developmental disabilities. Supplemental income 
would be provided to caregivers with more than one individual 
in their care, and requirements would include people with all 
forms of dementia, not exclusively for people who are 
incapacitated and home bound. Chefs would be incentivized to 
prepare healthy meals for people with disabilities and 
dementia. Service agencies would receive more money to have 
more staff and more respite housing, so "emergency" means 
immediately, not eight months. Finally, the licensed caregiver 
could go to a hotel and receive a spa treatment, complimentary 
dinner, and a few nights in the best room. I would love to have 
a full night's sleep, and maybe sleep until 7am.
    Thank you for your time and attention.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

   "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of giving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Testimony

                            Victoria Snyder

    Good morning! I am Tori Snyder, a single mom to a terrific 
son, Braxton, who is about to start first grade. We live here 
in Pittsburgh and I'm a proud member of MomsRising.
    I want to start by saying thank you, Senator Casey, for 
organizing this hearing and for all you do to improve support 
for caregivers. It truly means the world to moms like me. I 
appreciate the chance to share my family's story.
    I am a sandwich generation mom with sole physical and 
financial responsibility for my son. Over the past several 
years, I've also provided care for my mother and my late 
grandmother.
    Juggling care for a young child and my aging relatives has 
been an enormous challenge - financially and emotionally. These 
challenges are much worse because lawmakers have failed to 
ensure working people can access paid leave and quality, 
affordable child care and elder care.
    The beginning of the pandemic was an especially hard time 
for my family. During COVID, Braxton was diagnosed on the 
autism spectrum. He needs occupational, speech, and behavioral 
therapy each week. My grandma got COVID and spent months going 
in and out of the hospital. My mom also spent time in the 
hospital. I had no money coming in as I lost my job when COVID 
happened and couldn't even look for a job because I had no one 
to watch Braxton. It was an extremely scary time, filled with a 
lot of worries about what tomorrow would bring, because of the 
unknown, and needing flexibility with my schedule for Braxton's 
needs, I started a business, Self-Care Senorita, and worked as 
a small business coach and DEI consultant.
    During all this, my biggest fear was what would happen if I 
got COVID, or worse, an injury that would cause me to not be 
able to work. I couldn't get sick, and I couldn't get hurt 
because if I did, I wouldn't be able to work - and then what 
would happen to my family? Those what-ifs haunted me every day.
    Thankfully, Braxton's preschool finally reopened. Having 
child care again was a relief and allowed me to work more 
hours, but it cost $800 per month - a big portion of my take-
home pay.
    Last year, Braxton started kindergarten, and I took a full-
time job so he and I could have medical benefits, but I'm still 
struggling with child care outside of school hours. At first, I 
tried enrolling him in an after-school program, but that 
program was expensive and ultimately, we just couldn't afford 
it. Instead, I interrupt my workday each afternoon to pick him 
up from school, which is stressful. In order to get my work 
hours in, I log in before I take him to school, pause, take him 
to school, work, pause again, get him from school and then work 
hours in the evenings; it's exhausting trying to manage it all.
    My new job also does not provide paid leave. I still worry 
about what would happen if my mother or son were to be sick. I 
have to save all of my paid time off for a what-if scenario 
instead of using it for vacation time with my family or even 
for my own sick days.
    Unfortunately, I know so many parents and caregivers can 
relate to these challenges. Here in Pennsylvania, about two-
thirds of us don't have access to any paid leave through our 
employers, to care for our kids, ourselves, or our aging loved 
ones. About 60 percent of us live in child care deserts - and 
for kids under 5, care costs nearly as much as public college 
tuition.
    These challenges have limited my income and my career 
opportunities - and I know so many moms who can say the same. 
When working people like me can't fully utilize our skills, 
that's bad for businesses and our overall economy.
    As I've juggled these responsibilities over the years, I 
often feel like I'm running in 1,000 directions at once. 
Sandwich generation caregivers like me are struggling with 
burnout and exhaustion. I joined MomsRising because I know the 
only way we'll see progress is if we all raise our voices. I 
will never stop using my voice to tell lawmakers to invest in 
the care infrastructure working families need, with paid leave 
for all, affordable high-quality child care, elder care, and 
disability care, and an expanded Child Tax Credit. Senator 
Casey, thank you for having our backs in this fight.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                       Prepared Witness Testimony

                             Linda Orndoff

    Hello Chairman Casey. My name is Linda Orndoff. I am a home 
care worker from Coal Center, Pennsylvania. I take care of my 
elderly mother and my oldest grandson who has autism.
    I am a participant-directed home care worker. This means I 
work directly for my participants, my mother, and my grandson, 
rather than through an agency. This type of care allows the 
participant to direct their own care and to choose who works 
for them. A lot of times, like in our situation, this means 
family members. They choose people who they know and are 
comfortable with, rather than whomever an agency sends.
    Nevertheless, whether you are participant-directed or an 
agency worker, doing home care work is a big sacrifice. When I 
was asked to come here today to speak to you, I was told to 
just tell my story. I want to share what it is like to be a 
home care worker, but to make you understand what a home care 
worker goes through you need to know why the situation is like 
it is, because of poverty wages and no benefits, we have a huge 
crisis in the home care industry. Tens of thousands of home 
care workers must depend on state and federal assistance 
programs, like food stamps, Medicaid & sometimes cash 
assistance just to live.
    In our country, there is only one caregiver for every six 
people who need and want care and to make it possible for them 
to be able to remain in their homes. Without enough home care 
workers, many people are being forced into nursing homes and 
assisted living facilities as they cannot find caregivers to 
keep them at home. In 2021 the annual turnover in the care 
workforce was 64% and it is only getting worse. It is getting 
worse because most potential caregivers are unable to do this 
work when it pays so little and offers no benefits or security.
    In my case when my mother and grandson began needing my 
care full time, I had a big choice to make, put them in a home 
or quit my job. I chose them. After that, everything about my 
life changed. When I had to quit my job, I took a huge pay cut 
and suddenly I had to figure out how to live on poverty wages. 
I am currently making $13.52, the same hourly wage I made back 
in the late 80's - early 90's. I could barely live on those 
wages then, and I certainly can't live on these poverty wages 
now. When I chose to take care of my family and stop working, I 
no longer had health insurance, paid sick time, paid vacations, 
or any retirement benefits.
    My mother and grandson depend on my care 10 hours a day, 
seven days a week. My mother has polycythemia vera which is a 
rare blood disorder that makes your blood too thick and can 
lead to strokes and organ damage. She also has chronic kidney 
disease. She is also senile and has some dementia. She gets 
angry a lot and is very defiant, mostly towards me. We live in 
the country, on four acres, and she likes to wander away a lot 
(mostly tracking her cat). Two summers ago, she disappeared 
from me, and I couldn't find her anywhere. I was about to call 
911 when I heard a noise at the top end of the property. I 
found her in weeds up to her waist, in bedroom slippers, trying 
to pull old lumber with rusty nails in it that my brother-in-
law had stacked there to burn. Now I have video cameras set up 
everywhere to track her. Last summer she fell in the front yard 
about 100 yards from the house, looking for the cat, and she 
couldn't get up, so she was crawling up through the yard. She 
lets the cat out the front door and immediately goes to the 
back door and starts calling her to come in.
    My mother likes to get up in the middle of the night and 
rearrange all the cupboards in the house. Last year when the 
overflow on the bathroom sink rusted out and started leaking, I 
told her I was going to have to replace the sink, but she 
decided it was the drainpipes instead, so she took a hammer and 
fixed them. Boy did she ever. On top of all of that, she is 
totally deaf, even with her hearing aids in. This makes 
communication with her incredibly difficult. I have tried 
several voice-to-text programs, but they screw up more than 
they work, so I have to write lots and lots of notes. I could 
tell you a lot more stories but suffice it to say she keeps me 
very busy.
    In 2014, shortly after I took guardianship of my oldest 
grandson, he was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome. Asperger 
syndrome is a previously used diagnosis that is on the autism 
spectrum. He also suffers from chronic depression and obesity. 
In 2019 he and I started a walking program, and he lost over 60 
pounds in three months. I was very proud of him.
    Unfortunately, my mother's mobile home that they lived in 
caught fire. It was a total loss. I was able to get them a 
newer, manufactured home to replace it, but everything was 
reliant on me and by the time I got everything up to the newer 
codes and got the house set up and them back home he had put 
almost all the weight back on. Since then, with my mother's 
further decline, it has been very difficult for me to be able 
to leave the house. My grandson's weight has continued to 
escalate, and I worry every day about his health, which is 
starting to decline.
    I am very active with my union SEIU/United Home Care 
Workers of PA. In recent years we fought for and won paid 
training classes for home care workers. These classes teach 
home care workers CPR and safety training, which I have 
completed. They also offer classes in working with dementia and 
autism patients, that I would love to take. I feel they would 
help me in dealing with the day-to-day tasks of taking care of 
my mother and grandson. However, these are both 8hour courses 
and while they are paid training, when you have no one to cover 
for you it is very difficult to get them done.
    As a participant-directed worker, I do not have the same 
collective bargaining in PA like other workers. This needs to 
change so we can fully advocate for ourselves. In states where 
home care workers have collective bargaining, they have won 
important victories like healthcare and living wages.
    Vecause of the workforce crisis in our industry, it is 
nearly impossible to get backup care. If I get sick there is no 
one there to take care of them. A couple of years ago when I 
caught COVID I was completely down for five days. My older 
sister who can sometimes help me was in Florida on vacation and 
there was no one to feed my mother or grandson. This year in 
May I was bit on the neck by a spider. I got very sick for 
almost a week, but I managed to keep working. I don't have 
health insurance, so I didn't go to the doctor. After a week I 
started to get better and then I got sick again. I had a rash 
on my neck that was spreading that I had attributed to the 
spider bite. Then the pain started, and it got so bad I went 
from wondering if I was going to die to hoping that I would. I 
finally went to a doctor even though I couldn't afford it. I 
was eventually diagnosed with stage three Lyme disease, but if 
we had health insurance this never would have progressed to 
that point.
    I would like to be able to tell you, other than the fact 
that bugs seem to like me, that my story is a unique one, but 
it is not. In my time in the union, I have spoken to a lot of 
workers who work 90 and even 100 hours a week. I have listened 
to the story of a young woman from Philadelphia who after 
working a full day taking care of her elderly diabetic mother, 
she then loads her in a car, even in the dead of winter with 
her blankets and medicines and drives for door dash all night 
to keep a roof over their heads. I have heard stories from 
workers who have contemplated suicide from depression over 
facing eviction from their homes.
    We all know home care workers save the system, and 
taxpayers, tens of thousands of dollars per year caring for 
folks in their homes over putting them in nursing homes or 
assisted living facilities, and that these folks have better 
overall health outcomes, but we need to come up with a plan for 
how to get caregivers out of poverty. Otherwise, there is no 
way that we can build a sustainable home-care system, because 
we can't take care of them if we can't take care of ourselves.
   
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                       Statements for the Record

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                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                        Statement for the Record

        Testimony of American Psychological Association Services

    On behalf of the American Psychological Association 
Services (APA Services), please accept the following written 
comments for the consideration of the Senate Special Committee 
on Aging for its Field Hearing titled "From Infancy to Aging: 
The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan". APA Services is 
the companion organization of the American Psychological 
Association, which is the nation's largest scientific and 
professional nonprofit organization representing the discipline 
and profession of psychology, as well as over 157,000 members 
and affiliates who are clinicians, researchers, educators, 
consultants, and students in psychological science. Through the 
application of psychological science and practice, our 
organization's mission is to have a positive impact on critical 
societal issues.

Mental Health Impact of Caregiving

    APA Services applauds this Committee's focus on the mental 
health of caregivers. In 2021, an estimated 38 million family 
caregivers provided some form of unpaid care to an adult 
experiencing permanent or temporary limitations in their 
ability to perform everyday activities of living like mobility, 
eating, or bathing.\1\ The specific nature of the assistance 
furnished by caregivers varies by the nature and degree of the 
person's condition.\2\ For example, individuals recently 
discharged from hospital settings may need caregivers to assist 
with adherence to post-discharge protocols like medication or 
diet. Older adults are also more likely to experience 
conditions that result in fluctuating and potentially 
diminished capacity for decision making, namely post-operative 
delirium and other neurocognitive disorders, which can 
necessitate caregiver assistance with daily activities 
including managing finances or use of prescription medications. 
Those with disabilities may require caregivers to assist with 
various activities of daily living (ADLs) or transportation. 
People with serious mental health needs may require caregivers 
to monitor their well-being and safety. In addition to these 
direct care tasks, many caregivers also assume a care 
coordination role that could include addressing problems with 
health insurance coverage or communicating with multiple 
providers about implementing plans of care.
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    \1\ AARP Public Policy Institute (March 2023). Valuing the 
Invaluable: 2023 Update. https://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aarp/ppi/
2023/3/valuing-the-invaluable-2023-
update.doi.10.264192Fppi.00082.006.pdf.
    \2\ Reinhard, Susan, Heather M. Young, Carol Levine, Kathleen 
Kelly, Rita Choula, and Jean Accius. Home Alone Revisited. Washington, 
DC: AARP Public Policy Institute, April 2019 https://doi.org/10.26419/
ppi.00086.001.
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    Through their unreimbursed efforts, caregivers contribute a 
total of approximately $600 billion to the U.S. health care 
system. However, the fact that a caregiver provides services to 
a loved one without expectation of compensation does not mean 
that caregiving is entirely "free." Indeed, there is ample 
evidence of its physical and mental toll on caregivers. 
Caregiving is generally associated with higher levels of risk 
for chronic health conditions like coronary heart disease,\3\ 
increased inflammation,\4\ and accelerated aging of the 
caregiver's immune system.\5\ There is also evidence that 
caregivers are generally more likely to neglect their own 
health and forego preventative care for their own medical 
needs.\6\
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    \3\ Haley WE, Roth DL, Howard G, Safford MM. Caregiving strain and 
estimated risk for stroke and coronary heart disease among spouse 
caregivers: differential effects by race and sex. Stroke. 2010 
Feb;41(2):331-6. doi: 10.1161/STROKEAHA.109.568279. Epub 2010 Jan 14. 
PMID: 20075357; PMCID: PMC2818824.
    \4\ Allen A. P., Curran E. A., Duggan A., Cryan J. F., Chorcorain 
A. N., Dinan T. G., . Clarke G (2017). A systematic review of the 
psychobiological burden of informal caregiving for patients with 
dementia: Focus on cognitive and biological markers of chronic stress. 
Neuroscience and Biobehavioral Reviews, 73, 123-164. doi:10.1016/
j.neubiorev.2016.12.006
    \5\ Mausbach, B. T., Patterson, T. L., Von Kanel, R., Mills, P. J., 
Dimsdale, J. E., Ancoli-Israel, S., & Grant, I. (2007a). The 
attenuating effect of personal mastery on the relations between stress 
and Alzheimer caregiver health: A five-year longitudinal analysis. 
Aging & Mental Health, 11, 637-644.
    \6\ Schulz, R., Newsom, J., Mittelmark, M., Burton, L., Hirsch, C. 
& Jackson, S. (1997). Health effects of caregiving: The Caregiver 
Health Effects Study: An ancillary study of The Cardiovascular Health 
Study. Annals of Behavioral Medicine , 19, 110-116.
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    The mental health impacts of caregiving tell a similar 
story. While caregivers may experience some degree of personal 
psychological fulfillment and meaning through their efforts,\7\ 
caregivers also are more likely to report higher levels of 
anxiety and depression than their non-caregiver 
counterparts.\8\ In addition to the obvious physical and mental 
strain from providing direct support, caregivers experience 
additional stressors that can contribute to this phenomenon. 
With 61% of caregivers under employment, caregivers may 
experience stress from balancing their work-related demands 
with those at home.\9\ Caregivers may also be struggling with 
balancing care for the older adult with caring for other family 
members, as 30% of caregivers reside in multi-generational 
households with children or grandchildren.\10\ Caregivers for 
patients with dementia, for example, may be coping with their 
own sense of anticipatory bereavement of losing their loved one 
or a deterioration of the relationship due to any cognitive or 
behavioral manifestations of the disease.\11\
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    \7\ Miller, B. Adult Children's Perceptions of Caregiver Stress and 
Satisfaction. Journal of Applied Gerontology 8, no. 3 (1989): 275-93
    \8\ Beach, S. R., Schulz, R., Yee, J. L., & Jackson, S. (2000). 
Negative and positive health effects of caring for a disabled spouse: 
Longitudinal findings from the Caregiver Health Effects Study. 
Psychology & Aging, 15 (2), 259-271.doi:10.1037//0882-7974.15.2.259.
    \9\ AARP and National Alliance for Caregiving. Caregiving in the 
United States 2020. Washington, DC: AARP. May 2020. https://doi.org/
10.26419/ppi.00103.001
    \10\ Id.
    \11\ Ascher EA, Sturm VE, Seider BH, Holley SR, Miller BL, Levenson 
RW. Relationship satisfaction and emotional language in frontotemporal 
dementia and Alzheimer disease patients and spousal caregivers. 
Alzheimer Dis Assoc Disord. 2010 Jan-Mar;24(1):49-55. doi: 10.1097/
WAD.0b013e3181bd66a3. PMID: 20220322; PMCID: PMC2838197.

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Evidence-Based Caregiver Training

    Caregivers are rarely, if ever, asked whether they are 
prepared for their new caregiving role. Instead, they are 
frequently thrust very quickly into caregiving situations with 
little notice and limited training as to the complicated tasks 
they are expected to perform as part of this role. 
Unfortunately, this lack of mastery of caregiving tasks only 
serves to amplify the anxiety and depression that caregivers 
may already be experiencing.\12\
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    \12\ Chan EY, Glass G, Chua KC, Ali N, Lim WS. Relationship between 
Mastery and Caregiving Competence in Protecting against Burden, Anxiety 
and Depression among Caregivers of Frail Older Adults. J Nutr Health 
Aging. 2018;22(10):1238-1245. doi: 10.1007/s12603-018-1098-1. PMID: 
30498832; PMCID: PMC6302747.
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    Caregiver Behavior Management Training (CBMT) helps fulfill 
this unmet need of caregivers. CBMT is provided to parents or 
caregivers of multiple patients simultaneously, teaching 
interventions that caregivers can independently use to better 
manage the patient's disease. Behavioral training associated 
with this service requires the clinical expertise of at least 
one psychologist or qualified health care professional (QHP) 
who is well versed in evidence-based behavior management 
procedures and strategies.
    This has the effect of multiplying the impact of treatment, 
serving more individuals while utilizing fewer clinical hours. 
In other words, more patients are helped by fewer providers 
over less time when compared to individual or family therapy 
treatment sessions. For example, providing a 60-minute group 
caregiver behavior management service for five patients over 
twelve sessions would result in 720 minutes of direct patient 
care, compared to treating five patients with family therapy 
for 12 sessions, which would result in 3,600 minutes of direct 
patient care. This efficiency improves access to care for 
patients and ultimately results in cost savings for the health 
care system.\13\ These services are also known to delay the 
necessity of nursing home placements for older adults with 
dementia, allowing patients to remain in their own homes over a 
longer span of time.\14\
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    \13\ Sansoni, J., Anderson, K. H., Varona, L. M., Varela, G. 
(2013). Caregivers of Alzheimer's patients and factors influencing 
institutionalization of loved ones: some considerations on existing 
literature. Annali di Igiene: Medicina Preventiva e di Comunita, 25(3), 
235-46. doi: 10.7416/ai.2013.1926. PMID: 23598807
    \14\ Mittelman, M. S., Haley, W. E., Clay, O. J., Roth, D. L. 
(2006). Improving caregiver well-being delays nursing home placement of 
patients with Alzheimer disease. Neurology, 67(9), 1592-9. doi: 
10.1212/01. wnl.0000242727.81172.91. PMID: 17101889.
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    APA Services applauds the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid 
Services (CMS) for activating a new coding and reimbursement 
mechanism for CBMT services provided by psychologists and other 
QHPs (CPT Codes 96202/96203) in its annual Medicare Physician 
Fee Schedule proposed rule. APA Services also applauds CMS for 
allowing such services to be furnished via telehealth, enabling 
access for the many caregivers who cannot travel to an in-
person clinical setting due to their own or the patient's 
circumstances. APA Services calls on members of the Committee 
to support this proposed rule and to facilitate similar 
coverage of these services in Medicaid and Marketplace plans.

Prompt Access to Evidence-Based Treatment

    Of course, adequate training will not entirely eliminate 
the need for individual mental or behavioral health care for 
some caregivers. Congress must make it a priority to facilitate 
access to mental and behavioral health services for caregivers 
and other individuals who may be struggling with an unmet 
mental or behavioral health need. The acceptance and use of 
telehealth (including telehealth furnished via audioonly 
interactions) for treatment of mental and behavioral health 
services, for example, remains a popular option for patients 
and practitioners alike.\15\ In some cases, the decision of 
patients and providers to use telehealth may have superior 
clinical benefits over their in-person counterparts; for 
example, psychologists treating patients via telehealth may 
gain insights into the patient's personal living environment or 
patients may feel more comfortable accessing treatment from the 
comfort and safety of their own homes.
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    \15\ See, e.g., Bartelt K, Piff A, Allen S, Barkley E. Telehealth 
Utilization Higher Than Pre-Pandemic Levels, but Down from Pandemic 
Highs. Epic Research. https://epicresearch.org/articles/telehealth-
utilization-higher-than-prepandemic-levels-but-down-from-pandemic-
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    Congress is faced with critical decisions before the end of 
this year on whether to continue this forward momentum on 
access to tele-mental and tele-behavioral services. 
Fortunately, Congress decided to permanently allow Medicare 
beneficiaries to receive mental health services via telehealth 
from their own homes in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 
2021; however, it also imposed a requirement that Medicare 
beneficiaries must be seen in-person by the provider for 
continued coverage of their telehealth services.
    Congress should reconsider and repeal the "in-person visit" 
requirement. Patients seeking mental health services already 
face several obstacles to treatment, including but not limited 
to social stigma, complicated insurance coverage policies, and 
practical difficulties like transportation. Imposing an 
arbitrary and uniform in-person visit requirement increases the 
likelihood that patients will simply discontinue treatment 
altogether. Rather than discouraging fraudulent claims, this 
policy will instead discourage many more legitimate claims for 
treatment. Additionally, the fact that the in-person visit only 
applies to mental health services further perpetuates a bias 
against coverage of mental and behavioral health treatment in 
Medicare and other insurance coverage programs.
    APA Services calls on members of the Committee to adopt a 
permanent solution, such as the Telemental Health Care Access 
Act (H.R. 3432), that would ensure Medicare beneficiaries' 
continued access to the broad range of mental and behavioral 
health services via telehealth without unnecessary and 
arbitrary barriers to treatment. Given the political dynamics 
of a Presidential election year, however, we understand that 
Congress may need additional time to make this decision. APA 
Services acknowledges that a twoyear extension of the current 
Medicare coverage rules, such as that offered in the Energy & 
Commerce Committee's forthcoming markup of the Telehealth 
Modernization Act (H.R. 7623), may be necessary as a short-term 
solution. However, we ask Congress to make a longer-term 
decision by the end of that extension; patients require 
stability in their ability to access mental and behavioral 
health treatment remotely.
    There are also innovative and evidence-based models of 
integrating behavioral health treatment into primary care 
practices, such as the Primary Care Behavioral Health (PCBH) 
model and the Collaborative Care model (CoCM), as well as 
models that blend different features of PCBH and CoCM based on 
the resources available in their local community. There is 
ample evidence that integrated care can result in cost savings 
across the health system, since behavioral comorbidities can 
lead to medical costs for physical conditions that are two to 
three times higher than incurred for patients without 
behavioral health conditions.\16\ These benefits are especially 
felt in rural and underserved areas where the local primary 
care clinic is the default health care system. However, despite 
its potential, a number of barriers exist to practitioner 
adoption of integrated care.\17\ These include additional 
clinical and administrative staffing costs, adequate 
reimbursement for increased interprofessional consultation, 
education, and training, changes to primary care practices' 
operating procedures, upgrades or modifications to physical 
office spaces, and investments in information technology 
systems.
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    \16\ See, e.g., Ross, K. M., Klein, B., Ferro, K., McQueeney, D. 
A., Gernon, R., & Miller, B. F. (2019). The cost effectiveness of 
embedding a behavioral health clinician into an existing primary care 
practice to facilitate the integration of care: A prospective, case-
control program evaluation. Journal of Clinical Psychology in Medical 
Settings, 26, 59-67 (finding that integrating a psychologist into a 
primary care practice resulted in cost savings of $860 per member per 
year).
    \17\ Hartnett, T., Loud, G., Harris, J., Curtis, M., Hoagland, 
G.W., Serafini, M., Glassberg, H., Chung, H. (2023). Strengthening the 
Integrated Care Workforce. Bipartisan Policy Center. https://
bipartisanpolicy.org/report/strengthening-the-integrated-care-
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    To help practitioners overcome these barriers, APA Services 
urges members of this Committee to support the COMPLETE Care 
Act (H.R. 5819/S. 1378). This bill would temporarily boost 
Medicare reimbursement rates for certain integrated care codes 
to aid in the up-front adoption costs, require CMS to provide 
technical assistance to primary care practices seeking to adopt 
evidence-based behavioral health integration models, and 
require CMS to establish quality measurement reporting 
requirements for behavioral health integration services within 
existing Medicare alternative payment models. Last December, 
the Senate Finance Committee voted 26-0 to approve key 
provisions of the COMPLETE Care Act as part of the Better 
Mental Health Care, Lower-Cost Drugs, and Extenders Act of 
2023.

Robust Support for Key Caregiving Programs

    Many federal programs provide a key supplement to services 
provided by clinicians. Area Agencies on Aging (AAAs) and Aging 
and Disability Resource Centers (ADRCs) serve as a critical hub 
for services to older adults and adults with disabilities. For 
example, the National Family Caregiver Support Program provides 
grant funding to an array of supports to caregivers-including 
those that are non-clinical in nature. Services commonly 
provided under this program include information about services 
available to caregivers in the community, navigation to 
accessing these services, individual caregiver counseling 
(including support groups and caregiver training), and 
temporary respite care. However, important programs like this 
are set to expire at the end of the current fiscal year due to 
the expiration of the Older Americans Act. APA Services calls 
on members of this Committee to support a robust 
reauthorization of this critical piece of authorizing 
legislation.
    Further research is also a necessary means of developing 
new innovations in caregiver support. The National Institute on 
Aging (NIA) was founded in 1974 within the National Institutes 
of Health (NIH) to support research on the health of older 
adults. NIA-supported research provides the foundation for 
scientific advancements in the field of gerontology, including 
family caregivers' contributions. Funding for key research at 
NIA would include research on caregivers' needs and how best to 
address issues specific to caregivers. APA Services asks 
members of this Committee to continue its support for robust 
funding of NIH at $51.303 billion for FY 2025 and commensurate 
increases in NIA funding.
    APA Services appreciates the Committee's efforts to ensure 
that the invaluable efforts of caregivers are not lost due to 
physical or mental health challenges. We are eager to work with 
this Committee and its members to develop legislation that 
would accomplish this goal.

                 U.S. Senate Special Committee on Aging

 "From Infancy to Aging: The Effects of Caregiving Across the Lifespan"

                             August 7, 2024

                        Statement for the Record

                        Testimony of MomsRising

    I am Karen Showalter, Pennsylvania Moms Force Director for 
MomsRising, the online and on-the-ground organization of more 
than one million mothers and their families, including over 
25,000here in Pennsylvania, working to improve family economic 
security, stop discrimination against women and moms, and build 
a nation where businesses and families can thrive.
    Pennsylvanians applaud Senator Bob Casey for holding 
today's field hearing in Pittsburgh, "Family Caregiving Across 
the Lifespan." This hearing underscores the Senator's 
longstanding commitment to hearing directly from working 
families about the most pressing challenges they face because 
our country has failed to invest in common-sense care 
infrastructure policies. Addressing these challenges is 
essential to our State's and our country's success, and we are 
grateful for Senator Casey's work to shine a light on the 
urgent need to invest in care.
    At MomsRising, we know that care work, whether it's paid or 
unpaid, powers our economy. Care work is the work that makes 
all other work possible, but unfortunately, in our country 
today, too often care work is undervalued, underpaid and 
unsupported. That has to change if we are to build a thriving 
economy that works for working families.
    Building a care infrastructure is a top priority for 
MomsRising because it is a top priority for our members, who 
tell us every day that their families are struggling without 
paid leave, access to high-quality, affordable child care, 
elder and disability care, and more.
    The challenges are immense. Right now in Pennsylvania and 
across the country, most working people have no access to any 
paid leave through their employers. That means zero paid leave 
to welcome a new baby, zero paid leave to care for a loved one 
who needs surgery, and zero paid leave to seek care after a 
cancer diagnosis. In those moments, the last thing anyone 
should have to worry about is how they will keep their job or 
pay their bills, but without paid leave, those worries are 
life-shaping for hardworking people with new babies or health 
emergencies.
    For example: Nancy is a MomsRising member in the 
Philadelphia area who works in retail, sometimes working 50 
hours/week. She also cares for her aging father, taking him to 
doctor's appointments, keeping his home in order, and ensuring 
his basic needs are met. Without paid leave, she is forced to 
squeeze her caregiving responsibilities into non-working hours. 
If her dad has an emergency, she loses pay, making it harder to 
pay the bills. Nancy told us, "Paid leave would mean so much 
for his care, our relationship, and my body/mindset. I feel 
exhausted and stressed every single day."
    If Congress were to pass the FAMILY Act, guaranteeing 12 
weeks of comprehensive paid leave for all workers, it would 
make an enormous difference for Nancy and millions of 
caregivers like her.
    At MomsRising, we also hear from members about the stresses 
and challenges they're facing because of our country's child 
care crisis. Parents are trying their best, but struggling with 
high costs and low availability. On the other hand, child care 
workers, the majority of which are women and mothers, are 
struggling to support their own families with low wages and 
scant or no benefits.
    All kids deserve high-quality early learning opportunities, 
and when parents can't find or afford the child care they need 
to hold jobs and provide for their families, it doesn't just 
hurt families - it causes immense harm to businesses and our 
economy.
    We lose out on the skills of parents like Stefanie, a 
MomsRising member in Palmyra. Stefanie earned a master's degree 
and used to work in a hospital lab, but when COVID hit, she had 
to leave her job because child care wasn't available. Recently, 
she was contacted about a job opportunity, but when she looked 
into child care, she found that care for her three young 
children would cost her family more than $4,000 a month, and 
that it would take months if not years to get off the waitlist, 
making the ability to even find child care in time unlikely.
    Families face similar challenges finding affordable elder 
and disability care, because of decades of underinvestment, 
MomsRising members tell us finding home- and community-based 
support for aging parents or loved ones with disabilities is 
like trying to find a needle in a haystack. By and large, care 
workers of all kinds aren't paid what they deserve. That's led 
to workforce shortages, making it even harder for families to 
find the support they need.
    For sandwich generation caregivers, these issues intersect 
and compound - and the number of sandwich generation caregivers 
is growing. As of 2018, more than eight million people 
nationwide were providing unpaid care for an adult, such as an 
aging parent, while also caring for a child under 18. By 2060, 
the number of adults over age 65 is expected to double compared 
to what it was in 2016.Whether or not we choose to invest in 
care now will determine whether we can meet that challenge. 
Just like we need to build bridges and roads to drive on to get 
to work - we need care infrastructure so parents can go to 
work, so kids can thrive, and so care workers can earn living 
wages - and we need a path to citizenship for immigrant care 
workers.
    That's why MomsRising is building a broad coalition of 
parents, caregivers, care workers, and business leaders to 
fight for the care agenda. The good news: These policies are 
enormously popular. In a recent poll MomsRising commissioned 
with the National Women's Law Center, voters across the 
spectrum voiced strong support for raising taxes on the 
wealthiest individuals and corporations to fund federal 
investments in care.
    We are enormously grateful for leaders like Senator Casey 
who are working to make those investments a reality, and for 
all of the panelists who shared their perspectives at today's 
field hearing. Together, we can build the care infrastructure 
that will make it possible for our country's children, 
families, communities, businesses and economy to thrive.

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